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#3 [00:00] <TrekkiesUnite118> would someone mind helping me out with a problem?
#4 [00:01] <TrekkiesUnite118> I cant connect to my friends server, I can connect to any other server but his
#5 [00:03] <TrekkiesUnite118> hello?
#6 [00:04] <Mikau> What kind of server is it?
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#8 [00:05] <TrekkiesUnite118> survival multiplayer
#9 [00:05] <Mikau> Can anyone else connect to his server?
#10 [00:05] <TrekkiesUnite118> yes
#11 [00:05] <TrekkiesUnite118> him and all my other friends
#12 [00:05] <Mikau> Try to ping his server address.
#13 [00:06] <TrekkiesUnite118> if I unplug my router and plug it back in I can connect, but I can't do anything
#14 [00:06] <Mikau> Hmm
#15 [00:06] <TrekkiesUnite118> I cant destroy blocks or pick any thing up
#16 [00:06] <TrekkiesUnite118> and eventually I disconnect with this error
#17 [00:06] <TrekkiesUnite118> minecraft Internal exception: java.net.socketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed
#18 [00:06] <Wiggy> hey, my buddy just set up a new world, but it keeps getting some exit 143 thing causing it to crash, anybody know what's up with that?
#19 [00:06] <TrekkiesUnite118> then I cant even connect to the server
#20 [00:06] <Mikau> Try opening up command prompt and typing in ipconfig /flushdns
#21 [00:07] <TrekkiesUnite118> did that, I still cant connect though
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#23 [00:08] <TrekkiesUnite118> I get connection timed out
#24 [00:08] <TrekkiesUnite118> it doesnt even get to log in
#25 [00:08] <TrekkiesUnite118> I'm completely stumped
#26 [00:08] <TrekkiesUnite118> I have the ports forwarded
#27 [00:08] <TrekkiesUnite118> I've tried shutting down all antivirus and firewalls
#28 [00:08] <TrekkiesUnite118> nothing works
#29 [00:09] <Mikau> There seems to be a really bad route between you and him.
#30 [00:09] <TrekkiesUnite118> I can ping him fine
#31 [00:09] <TrekkiesUnite118> doing a traceroute to see if that reveals anything
#32 [00:11] <TrekkiesUnite118> it gets trhough there fine it seems
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#34 [00:11] <TrekkiesUnite118> http://chu.is-a-geek.com/~william/server.properties.txt
#35 [00:11] <TrekkiesUnite118> those are his server properties
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#39 [00:14] <djbberko> hows te beta coming along
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#50 [00:24] <isaac> hey, I have another question
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#52 [00:25] <isaac> When notch says that if we get alpha even when beta comes out we will have the survival feature. what does that mean?
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#56 [00:33] <lemon-rev> prob will mean you can have the current survival alpha still on or turned off
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#70 [00:45] <Oggrish> how can i has an mod?
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#72 [00:45] <Oggrish> help
#73 [00:45] <skyler> anyone get beta
#74 [00:46] <KART35|iPod> yes
#75 [00:46] <KART35|iPod> wait
#76 [00:46] <KART35|iPod> no
#77 [00:46] <KART35|iPod> but on the 20th
#78 [00:46] <KART35|iPod> yes
#79 [00:47] <skyler> anyone get it early?
#80 [00:47] <KART35|iPod> wich means, 2 hrs 15 mins
#81 [00:47] <Oggrish> how can i has an mod?
#82 [00:47] <KART35|iPod> or wait...
#83 [00:47] <KART35|iPod> what time is it released?
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#85 [00:48] <Oggrish> how can i has an mod?
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#90 [00:56] <Trekkies> anyone here?
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#93 [00:59] <BadNetMan> java.lang.NullPointerException
#94 [00:59] <BadNetMan> =\
#95 [00:59] <BadNetMan> with other stoof
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#101 [01:05] <iSuperior> Can anyone help me out with downloading Minecraft?
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#110 [01:17] <lemon-rev> isuper
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#116 [01:27] <iSuperior> Can anyone help me out with downloading Minecraft? I can play online but the download doesn't work
#117 [01:27] <BadNetMan> howso
#118 [01:29] <iSuperior> Well, I download the Minecraft.exe and when I double click on it the box pops up asking to verify that it's okay for the file to be executed
#119 [01:29] <iSuperior> and when I hit Accept, I hear the dong Windows error noise and nothing happens
#120 [01:29] <iSuperior> I've tried both Minecraft.exe files
#121 [01:30] <lemon-rev> right click on it, and tell it to run with admin priv
#122 [01:30] <lemon-rev> try that
#123 [01:32] <iSuperior> I don't have that option
#124 [01:32] <lemon-rev> even under say advanced
#125 [01:32] <lemon-rev> or some shit
#126 [01:33] <iSuperior> nope
#127 [01:33] <lemon-rev> hum
#128 [01:33] <lemon-rev> strang
#129 [01:33] <lemon-rev> wat os u running
#130 [01:33] <iSuperior> Windows XP
#131 [01:33] <V2Blast> I assume windows
#132 [01:34] <V2Blast> :P
#133 [01:34] <lemon-rev> k
#134 [01:34] <lemon-rev> wired and its erroring out, could be the fact its having trouble connecting to minecraft.net
#135 [01:34] <lemon-rev> been doing that lately cause everyone and hes dogs been trying to get it before the beta comes out
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#137 [01:36] <iSuperior> is there any way to fix that?
#138 [01:36] <lemon-rev> no just wait or keep on trying
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#140 [01:37] <lemon-rev> are you getting the box at all with a loading bar
#141 [01:37] <lemon-rev> ?
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#144 [01:40] <iSuperior> no, I'm not
#145 [01:40] <lemon-rev> damm
#146 [01:41] <lemon-rev> try redownloading the exe again
#147 [01:41] <iSuperior> I have
#148 [01:42] <lemon-rev> still nothing
#149 [01:42] <iSuperior> yep, just tried both files again and the same thing
#150 [01:43] <Oggrish> how can i has an mod?
#151 [01:44] <lemon-rev> hm
#152 [01:44] <lemon-rev> wired
#153 [01:44] <Oggrish> wire?
#154 [01:44] <Oggrish> where i download?
#155 [01:44] <Oggrish> i has an minecraft
#156 [01:44] <lemon-rev> was talking to someone else
#157 [01:44] <lemon-rev> sorry
#158 [01:44] <iSuperior> what do you mean by wired?
#159 [01:44] <Oggrish> how can i has an mod?
#160 [01:44] <lemon-rev> what you talking about a mod for
#161 [01:45] <lemon-rev> i dont know go look up minecraft mod
#162 [01:45] <Oggrish> i look
#163 [01:46] <BadNetMan> bqack
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#165 [01:47] <Oggrish> bqack? is that an mod?
#166 [01:47] <Oggrish> where i has it?
#167 [01:48] <iSuperior> I don't think they were talking to you...
#168 [01:48] <BadNetMan> yeah
#169 [01:48] <BadNetMan> I modified the word back.
#170 [01:48] <BadNetMan> >.>
#171 [01:48] <Oggrish> ok, somewhere help me an mod plz.. thank thank
#172 [01:49] <iSuperior> try google?
#173 [01:49] <iSuperior> or the minecrafte forums
#174 [01:49] <iSuperior> minecraft*
#175 [01:51] <Oggrish> i set an mod=hmod in minecraft.bat, no a any mod. how i set it??
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#178 [01:52] <Oggrish> i open LICENSE.TXT what change?
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#180 [01:53] <Oggrish> i click INSTALL to many time
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#182 [01:54] <Oggrish> maybe its bugg now because beta:P
#183 [01:54] <KumoriYokai> hi can anyone help me?
#184 [01:54] <BadNetMan> WHAT?
#185 [01:54] <BadNetMan> IT'S BETA ALREADY?
#186 [01:55] <iSuperior> oh yeah, Beta is the 20th... which is today haha
#187 [01:55] <iSuperior> totally thought it was in like a week
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#192 [02:00] <KumoriYokai> can anyone help me i keep timing out on a friends server and i already portforwarded and check my firewall and antivirus settings so it doesnt block minecraft but i keep timing out
#193 [02:00] <feenyx> portforwarding has nothing to do with connecting to your friends server
#194 [02:01] <feenyx> that's only relevant when people have issues connecting to any server software -you- might be hosting
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#196 [02:01] <KumoriYokai> oh yea im also running win XP service pack 3 would that have anything to do with it?
#197 [02:02] <feenyx> nope, if anything it'd be recommended over sp1 or sp2
#198 [02:03] <feenyx> do you know for a fact that others can connect to this server?
#199 [02:03] <KumoriYokai> yea
#200 [02:03] <KumoriYokai> my friends are on it right now
#201 [02:03] <feenyx> try using http://vaevictus.net/minecraft/ to check that it's up?
#202 [02:03] <KumoriYokai> i can join but after a few minutes my entire connection to the internet dies
#203 [02:04] <feenyx> oh
#204 [02:04] <feenyx> the only timeouts I've experienced are when connecting
#205 [02:04] <KumoriYokai> and the only way to fix it is to reset my computer
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#215 [02:17] <Gu1l7y_work> Fatal error occured (4): Unable to download lang="en-US"
#216 [02:17] <Gu1l7y_work> I get that at 81% trying to start mc.
#217 [02:17] <Gu1l7y_work> wtf
#218 [02:17] <Gu1l7y_work> Java is good.
#219 [02:17] <Gu1l7y_work> idk idk.
#220 [02:17] <Gu1l7y_work> In-Browser Applet has yet to work either...
#221 [02:18] <Gu1l7y_work> DirectX 9.0c...
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#223 [02:18] <Gu1l7y_work> I just don't know what's wrong.......
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#225 [02:22] <Zenreich> Well, I've been getting SocketException and SocketWriteError since earlier today, out of nowhere. I've been looking around all night through the forums and google and I havn't found anything
#226 [02:22] <Zenreich> I was just wondering if anyone here might have any ideas
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#228 [02:23] <Arosal> Help with a corrupt file, can anyone help?
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#230 [02:24] <Gu1l7y_work> So much for a help channel.
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#237 [02:44] <iTreefish> Any solutions for frequent crashes in SMP on a Mac (other then "get a PC")?
#238 [02:44] <iTreefish> I was able to play on normal drawdistance up until a few updates ago
#239 [02:44] <iTreefish> But no longer
#240 [02:45] <Zenreich_> iTreefish, what happens when it crashes?
#241 [02:45] <Zenreich_> Just a random black screen/error sheet?
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#243 [02:45] <iTreefish> Error sheet
#244 [02:45] <Zenreich_> Ah.
#245 [02:46] <Zenreich_> I cant really help you, but I was just wondering cause I'm stuck with the SocketException/Write Error
#246 [02:46] <iTreefish> Let's me see if I was smart enough to save one somewhere :)
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#248 [02:46] <iTreefish> Ah, I see
#249 [02:46] <iTreefish> Well, thanks though :)
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#261 [02:54] <robyhr> hello m8, i have a question. im i onlz one with black screen problem while running minecraft?
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#265 [03:03] <DFC> alright guys i need a solution
#266 [03:03] <DFC> i dug a canal
#267 [03:03] <DFC> buuuutttt
#268 [03:03] <DFC> it is one below sea level
#269 [03:03] <DFC> and it doesnt seem to be flooding
#270 [03:03] <netherian> ...
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#272 [03:03] <lemon-rev> you mean 1 block below sealevel
#273 [03:03] <DFC> >i lined the bottom of the canal already
#274 [03:03] <DFC> yep
#275 [03:04] <lemon-rev> well unless you got a downward canal it wont flood or even trickle towards the centre
#276 [03:04] <DFC> guess i'll get pails then..
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#281 [03:11] <DFC> i could fill it with cactus and call it a moay..
#282 [03:11] <DFC> moat
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#290 [03:21] <lemon-rev> hey since when are trees soo powerfull to smash glass surounding a tree that might be or might not be too close to it,
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#293 [03:23] <Renietsburb> greetings I have a problem. I don't have a credit card but i want to buy the game Is there any ther way to buy that game?
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#295 [03:26] <shuya> is it normal for it to take a while for the website to know you bought the game?
#296 [03:27] <shuya> i got a confirmation saying it went through, but it wont work
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#298 [03:28] <lemon-rev> thats exactly the problem everyone and hes dog is buying the game the site i belive is heavily underpressure via the people and it could be day or two to sort it self out, btw aussie people are already on the 20th its going to be 21st before we get the 20th beta release
#299 [03:29] <shuya> so its normal for it to take a little bit? i got the game fine but when i got it for my friend it hasnt registered yet
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#301 [03:30] <DFC> make an accoutn and do it for your friend
#302 [03:31] <shuya> he made an account and i used my card on his account to get him the game, it said the payment went through
#303 [03:31] <shuya> i'm just concerned because it was instant for me but not him
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#335 [04:38] <Kealper> hmm...i wonder who owns Hostiio, because they say "...our MCSAdmin control panel..." when refering to McMyAdmin...is PhonicUK really that sweet as to have his own hosting company that hosts mc servers and stuff? meh.
#336 [04:40] <Kealper> http://minecraftservers.com/ whoever made that site is pretty good...i like that there is not a drop of flash on there..it's all js
#337 [04:40] * fogWork goes *clicketyclick*
#337 [04:41] <Kealper> on an even more random note...i hate it when i fall asleep earlier than usual, because i seem to not sleep for as long...
#338 [04:42] <Kealper> so if i go to bed too early, i get up like 5-6 hours later...and then it's way early in the morning :S
#339 [04:42] <Kealper> wait, after mousing over a few links, that is PhonicUK that does all that....dang, that dude is way more epic than i first thought
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#343 [04:46] <fogWork> :P
#344 [04:46] <Kealper> it makes me want to make a simple web admin interface for my wrapper lol
#345 [04:48] <fogWork> Started one, but I'm lazy so... yeah
#346 [04:49] <fogWork> Morning Grey ;)
#347 [04:49] * GreyVulpine bwahs
#347 [04:49] <Kealper> well, you're up earlier
#348 [04:49] <Kealper> early*
#349 [04:49] <Kealper> stupid muscle-memory typing >.>
#350 [04:49] <Kealper> for some reason i keep typing earlier for early...
#351 [04:50] <fogWork> GreyVulpine never sleeps, he merely waits
#352 [04:50] <Kealper> xD
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#354 [04:53] <Kealper> the wrapper i made is not too bad, the core itself auto-saves every 30 min, and when no players are on, the server is thrown into lowest process priority, and when someone joins it is put back at normal, and the wrapper gets features from module-esque things using tcp, so you could have like a remote admin console thing running on your computer and such
#355 [04:53] <Kealper> /book
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#359 [05:04] <fogWork> I see :P
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#367 [05:28] <thereddeh> is it there yet? is it there yet>/
#368 [05:28] <fork> nope, it's still an innie
#369 [05:28] <thereddeh> awwww
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#384 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> Oooo
#385 [06:13] <fogWork> Aaaa?
#386 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> Included in the release today is leaf decay, working server-side inventory, throwable eggs, and less system hungry servers
#387 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> From Notch's twitter
#388 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> Oh, dear god no
#389 [06:13] <fogWork> Working as in working-working?
#390 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> i.imgur.com/wvnqF.png
#391 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> I don't know
#392 [06:14] <fogWork> Dear god
#393 [06:17] <thereddeh> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=99223
#394 [06:17] <thereddeh> i just made my minecraft cartoony :D
#395 [06:18] <fogWork> ;O
#396 [06:18] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/QuCWB.gif
#397 [06:18] <fogWork> Did you enter it into the competition?
#398 [06:19] <thereddeh> HOLY CWAP
#399 [06:19] <Kealper> Reddit's creative SMP server
#400 [06:19] <Kealper> just before they TNT'd and reset it lol
#401 [06:20] <thereddeh> tnting all that would take weeks ;p
#402 [06:21] <Kealper> i'm sure it didn't take too long to do lol, their server has some retarded monster specs
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#404 [06:22] <Kealper> so there was probably tons of people doing it at once
#405 [06:22] <thereddeh> how many creepers have died for that :(
#406 [06:22] <fogWork> I've been considering moving my SMP server to another machine, got a green light to place it on a semi-strong server :P
#407 [06:23] <Kealper> if the requirements were not stupid steep, i'd put mine on my dedicated, instead of my home server
#408 [06:23] <fogWork> But some people have insane server hw specs
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#421 [06:52] <thereddeh> noooo hdds full already :( wtf
#422 [06:53] <fogWork> Ohno!
#423 [06:53] * fogWork squeezes 1Tb through the monitor
#423 [06:53] <Kealper> :O
#424 [06:53] <thereddeh> its not working!
#425 [06:53] <fogWork> ;O
#426 [06:54] <thereddeh> push harder
#427 [06:54] * fogWork tilts the monitor & dropkicks
#427 [06:54] <Kealper> breathe, breathe, now PUUUUUUSH!
#428 [06:54] <fogWork> Is it working!?
#429 [06:55] <thereddeh> no :(
#430 [06:55] <fogWork> :(
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#437 [07:06] <ferminter> Im having a black screen when i launch can anyone help
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#441 [07:10] <Djbberko> Countdown
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#445 [07:25] <Lukasomat> hi
#446 [07:26] <Lukasomat> i really need help with my alpha client
#447 [07:26] <Lukasomat> is someone there who is not idle?
#448 [07:28] * thereddeh is currently idle, honest
#448 [07:28] * fogWork is too
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#450 [07:29] <thereddeh> automessage: i think he's buying it
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#452 [07:29] <milkaski> hello
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#454 [07:29] <milkaski> all of a sudden I cant login to my account?
#455 [07:29] <milkaski> howcome? i know beta is on its way.. but howcome I cant login to my account?
#456 [07:30] <fogWork> What does it say?
#457 [07:30] <milkaski> simply wrong username or password
#458 [07:30] * fogWork tests
#458 [07:30] <thereddeh> fine here
#459 [07:30] <fogWork> Well, you've got yours wrong then, somehow
#460 [07:30] <milkaski> and when I start minecraft and try to login its says "login failed"
#461 [07:30] <milkaski> i dubble checked it
#462 [07:31] <fogWork> If you're 276% sure it's right, mail the Notchpeople
#463 [07:31] <milkaski> whats the mail to them?
#464 [07:31] <milkaski> the adress
#465 [07:31] <milkaski> yah Im 276% sure
#466 [07:31] <GreyVulpine> payment@mojang.com
#467 [07:31] <kyle6513> i was about to suggest capslock, but hes talking using his keyboard.
#468 [07:31] <notblackjack> guys I have a question: How do I play multiplayer on minecraft alpha?
#469 [07:32] <fogWork> http://www.minecraft.net/support.jsp
#470 [07:32] <fogWork> ^ bestest URL
#471 [07:32] <notblackjack> for what?
#472 [07:33] <fogWork> If you read the page you'd know
#473 [07:33] <notblackjack> that doesn't answer my question.
#474 [07:34] <fogWork> I know it doesn't, didn't intend it for you either... I don't do nick completion very often
#475 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> You input an ip address into the multiplayer field?
#476 [07:34] <notblackjack> how do I get an ip adress?
#477 [07:34] <thereddeh> lol
#478 [07:34] <fogWork> minecraftforum has plenty of servers listed
#479 [07:34] <notblackjack> ok, thanks
#480 [07:34] <fogWork> Both classic and Alpha
#481 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1014
#482 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> SMP servers
#483 [07:35] <fogWork> GreyVulpine, you're an inspiration to us all ;)
#484 [07:35] <thereddeh> its dec 20 for 13 hours already, wheres beta :@ ;p
#485 [07:35] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#485 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> 12 hours, 59 minutes from now
#486 [07:35] <fogWork> Oh yeah, #smp also has info and stuff like that
#487 [07:36] <GreyVulpine> Wait, no, 10 hours, 59 minutes from how
#488 [07:36] <GreyVulpine> :P
#489 [07:36] <fogWork> :P
#490 [07:36] <GreyVulpine> Gah, I blame it being 7 in the morning.
#491 [07:36] <thereddeh> thats past midnight :(
#492 [07:37] <thereddeh> so really the 21st ;p
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#494 [07:37] <notblackjack> Can u give me an active server? I still don't get how to find one... :(
#495 [07:38] <Kealper> hmm...twitter is pretty smart...
#496 [07:38] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/VGWRP.png
#497 [07:39] <notblackjack> ...
#498 [07:39] <notblackjack> ?
#499 [07:39] <Kealper> it's my irc bot's twitter account lol
#500 [07:39] <thereddeh> lol
#501 [07:40] <thereddeh> why would a boty have a twitteraccount
#502 [07:40] <Kealper> note AuBot in the channel..lol
#503 [07:40] <Kealper> it had a module at one point that let people tweet using an irc command
#504 [07:40] <thereddeh> "autobanned another 17 people this morning, they were all like "Can u give me an active server? I still don't get how to find one... :("
#505 [07:40] <Kealper> but since twitter switched to OAuth, i have yet to update said module
#506 [07:41] <Kealper> lolwut
#507 [07:41] <kyle6513> thereddeh, wut
#508 [07:42] <thereddeh> ?
#509 [07:42] <kyle6513> thereddeh, where was that quote pulled from
#510 [07:42] <thereddeh> was just imagining what a bot would tweet
#511 [07:42] <fogWork> notblackjack: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1014&t=73395&sid=8dc4878abefb8df97f3da7cf7183852a
#512 [07:42] <Kealper> oh lol
#513 [07:42] <Kealper> http://twitter.com/AuBot if you really wanted to know lol
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#515 [07:42] <Kealper> the Bio part explains
#516 [07:42] <fogWork> notblackjack: open your gameclient, click multiplayer, enter the IP as seen in that thread
#517 [07:43] <fogWork> Click join, wait for success
#518 [07:43] <kyle6513> ah i see
#519 [07:43] <fogWork> Or connect, or whatever it says
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#521 [07:46] <milkaski> fogWork
#522 [07:46] <fogWork> Yes?
#523 [07:46] <milkaski> i did a lost my password
#524 [07:46] <milkaski> and change it
#525 [07:46] <milkaski> and viola :)
#526 [07:46] <milkaski> login everywhere
#527 [07:47] <fogWork> There you go :P
#528 [07:47] <milkaski> for some reason it didnt get my password even tho I spend 5 seconds per letter when I typed it in..
#529 [07:47] <milkaski> so some bug or something :) but its works no
#530 [07:47] <milkaski> thought i'd let you know
#531 [07:47] <fogWork> Righto, glad it worked out for you
#532 [07:48] <milkaski> awesome, thanks for the support :) im out :)
#533 [07:48] <milkaski> bb
#534 [07:48] <fogWork> Later
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#541 [08:00] <slide> Can mcedit create a circle? I want a 64*6*2+1 diameter circle on the horizontal plane
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#543 [08:01] <Moss> i need help
#544 [08:01] <Moss> i get this when i buy
#545 [08:01] <Moss> Message from server: This card is ineligible for 3-D Secure payments.
#546 [08:01] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that card can't be used to make online purchases
#547 [08:01] <Moss> lol can't be?
#548 [08:01] <Moss> I used it to buy lots of stuff
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#552 [08:03] <Lehiim> umm
#553 [08:03] <Lehiim> hows the progress on SMP hell gates going?
#554 [08:04] <fogWork> Send some money to a friend and have him gift it, Moss ;P
#555 [08:04] <Moss> .
#556 [08:04] <Moss> y so annoying?
#557 [08:05] <fogWork> Because your card in cooperation with Mojang payment gateways do not agree?
#558 [08:05] <fogWork> PayPal and what not
#559 [08:05] <Moss> if i email mojang can they fix it or smthing?
#560 [08:05] <Moss> or make an exception?
#561 [08:06] <fogWork> Should be able to send them a check? ;P
#562 [08:06] <Moss> eh
#563 [08:06] <fogWork> But in the spirit of christmas, I will do this for you and you alone
#564 [08:06] <Moss> yeah well
#565 [08:06] <fogWork> Let me gift it to you
#566 [08:06] <Moss> <3
#567 [08:06] <Moss> nice of you man
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#569 [08:10] <fogWork> Do tell if it doesn't work, have to get in touch with Notchypoop in case of fail
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#573 [08:15] <thereddeh> im trying to order a car with my creditcard but it doesnt work :( *hint*
#574 [08:15] <thereddeh> brb i shall eat food
#575 [08:16] <fogWork> :P
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#580 [08:19] <mib_zqqwfb> Hello
#581 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#582 [08:19] * fogWork vibrates
#582 [08:19] <mib_zqqwfb> I need help with classic
#583 [08:19] <mib_zqqwfb> It was working fine a few days ago
#584 [08:19] <mib_zqqwfb> but now it's laggy :/
#585 [08:20] <fogWork> Change view distance
#586 [08:20] <mib_zqqwfb> I did
#587 [08:20] <fogWork> Kill off rogue java instances
#588 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> Is it laggy on that server, or all servers?
#589 [08:20] <mib_zqqwfb> In single player
#590 [08:22] <mib_zqqwfb> How do I kill off rogue java instanves?
#591 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you using?
#592 [08:22] <mib_zqqwfb> xp
#593 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> Press ctrl-shift-esc
#594 [08:22] <fogWork> Damn your speed, Grey
#595 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> look for java.exe and javaw.exe
#596 [08:22] <mib_zqqwfb> with minecraft open?
#597 [08:22] <mib_zqqwfb> ok
#598 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#599 [08:23] <fogWork> I bet you have hotkeys set up for all your replies :P
#600 [08:23] <mib_zqqwfb> ok hang on
#601 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, I wish
#602 [08:24] <fogWork> ;)
#603 [08:25] <mib_zqqwfb> found java.exe
#604 [08:25] <mib_zqqwfb> now what?
#605 [08:26] <mib_zqqwfb> hello?
#606 [08:27] <fogWork> One or many?
#607 [08:27] <mib_zqqwfb> I only found java.exe
#608 [08:27] <mib_zqqwfb> only one of them
#609 [08:27] <fogWork> If you have minecraft open, that means it's right, so no bother with that
#610 [08:28] <fogWork> Simply close that window
#611 [08:28] <mib_zqqwfb> Ok I closed minecraft
#612 [08:28] <fogWork> Long time since you restarted browser / client / computer?
#613 [08:28] <GreyVulpine> This is a typical IRC session with me - http://imgur.com/tcc6k.png
#614 [08:28] <GreyVulpine> Been IRCing WAY too long
#615 [08:28] <mib_zqqwfb> don't think so
#616 [08:29] <fogWork> Usually closing down the browser and starting it back up again solves java / flash issues
#617 [08:29] <fogWork> Clears out the insane memory usage some generate
#618 [08:29] <mib_zqqwfb> I have many times today
#619 [08:29] <fogWork> And rebooing alltogether?
#620 [08:30] <mib_zqqwfb> nope
#621 [08:30] <fogWork> Try that, just for kicks
#622 [08:30] <mib_zqqwfb> It's been lagging for about two days now
#623 [08:30] <mib_zqqwfb> rebooting as in turning my computer on and off?
#624 [08:30] <fogWork> Done any updates, like video drivers or such?
#625 [08:30] <fogWork> Yes
#626 [08:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#627 [08:31] <mib_zqqwfb> oh lawd
#628 [08:31] <fogWork> "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
#629 [08:31] <mib_zqqwfb> My computer is shite it would take forever to reboot
#630 [08:31] <fogWork> That might be a possible cause of your lag, but still, do it ;P
#631 [08:31] <mib_zqqwfb> Well I turn it off every night
#632 [08:31] <fogWork> Mm, then... done any recent software installs? Driver updates?
#633 [08:32] <mib_zqqwfb> No driver updates
#634 [08:32] <mib_zqqwfb> I even had trouble getting onto the site yesterday
#635 [08:33] <fogWork> There were issues with the site yesterday
#636 [08:33] <mib_zqqwfb> oh right
#637 [08:34] <fogWork> But uhm, update video drivers, java etc etc. if possible
#638 [08:34] <mib_zqqwfb> Updated java this morning
#639 [08:34] <mib_zqqwfb> I have to go now :(
#640 [08:34] <mib_zqqwfb> Thanks for the help guys
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#645 [08:45] <thereddeh> can burning zombies and skellies light stuff on fire? :x
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#658 [09:09] <doboslewy> hello everyone
#659 [09:09] <doboslewy> i've got a problem
#660 [09:10] <doboslewy> i've built a portal, using obsidian blocks
#661 [09:10] <fogWork> And now you can't find the number to Ghostbusters? :P
#662 [09:10] <doboslewy> when i enter the portal, it should take me to theNether, but when the game loads the world, it crashes
#663 [09:11] * fogWork scratches GreyVulpine's beard
#663 [09:11] <doboslewy> i've updated java, but now when i log in, i can't even load my previous game
#664 [09:11] <doboslewy> :S
#665 [09:11] <Zenreich> I have the same problem, but I hear its a graphics card issue
#666 [09:11] <doboslewy> hahaha, :D
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#668 [09:11] <fogWork> Make a backup of your data, make a new world + gate, see what it does
#669 [09:11] <doboslewy> i've got a Radeon HD4850
#670 [09:11] <doboslewy> (512M)
#671 [09:12] <Zenreich> Hm.
#672 [09:12] <doboslewy> i'll try
#673 [09:12] <Zenreich> But if it makes you feel any better though, the nether ain't all that great~
#674 [09:12] <doboslewy> i'm just courious :D
#675 [09:12] <fogWork> It might of have confused the nether with outer space, who knows with Notch's elite code
#676 [09:13] <Zenreich> Anyway, right now I've got an issue with SocketException/Socket Write Error, etc, I join a server, only a chunk around me loads and I can't talk, and I disconnect with an error shortly after
#677 [09:14] <doboslewy> :S
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#679 [09:14] <Zenreich> Suddenly started happening, I've been playing normally for days
#680 [09:14] <Zenreich> I've been searching several forums since mid yesterday and all I've found is a solution for one brand of network card, and only one other person had the same issue with the brand I have
#681 [09:15] <fogWork> Which NIC?
#682 [09:15] <Zenreich> One sec
#683 [09:16] <Zenreich> Marvell Yukon 88E8001
#684 [09:16] <fogWork> Ah, well there you go
#685 [09:16] <fogWork> Had the same problem with that type, got a proper NIC and WOOOOSH!
#686 [09:16] <fogWork> Worked great
#687 [09:16] <Zenreich> Bah.
#688 [09:16] <Zenreich> I just dont get why its happening suddenly
#689 [09:17] <fogWork> Blame Notch
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#691 [09:17] <fogWork> There are plenty of topics on the forums on how to tweak the settings for the card so that it works somewhat though
#692 [09:17] <Zenreich> Someone who had the issue recently before me, and then had it go away though, had turned off her mom's laptop which was downloading a torrent at the time...
#693 [09:17] <Zenreich> Nah, the transmit buffer doesnt go high enough
#694 [09:18] <Zenreich> I've managed to make it take about 5 minutes before disconnecting now, versus about 20 seconds before
#695 [09:19] <doboslewy> try to open a port on your router, maybe the torrent is interfering with minecraft
#696 [09:20] <doboslewy> let's see if that works
#697 [09:20] <Zenreich> hrm
#698 [09:20] <fogWork> Har har
#699 [09:21] <doboslewy> (anyway, i've made a new world, and created the portal, and it works perfectly, but the old world just load awfully slow, and i cant even look around, its that slow :S )
#700 [09:22] <fogWork> Explored much you have?
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#703 [09:23] <doboslewy> excuse me? :D
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#708 [09:32] <doboslewy> ok, i'm gonna restart a new world
#709 [09:33] <doboslewy> thanks for help though ;)
#710 [09:33] <doboslewy> merry christmas everyone
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#719 [09:54] <thereddeh> wow just generated the best looking map everrr
#720 [09:55] <thereddeh> if u play on peaceful will the dungeons still be there?
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#723 [09:56] <Red> Hi
#724 [09:56] <Red> Anyone there?#
#725 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#726 [09:57] <thereddeh> automsg: nope no1 ere
#727 [09:57] <Red> Damn, where's the help then?!
#728 [09:57] <thereddeh> #properminecrafthelp
#729 [09:57] <Johanspess> heh
#730 [09:58] <Red> Haha, funny.
#731 [09:58] <Red> Arghh
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#733 [09:59] <Johanspess> I have the worst luck in the world with computers
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#735 [10:00] <Johanspess> buy minecraft, go to install minecraft, JAVA ERROR. purge java from my computer, reinstall the latest version, STILL JAVA ERROR.
#736 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com the java error?
#737 [10:01] <Johanspess> yeah, was about to stick it in there.
#738 [10:01] <Johanspess> one sec.
#739 [10:02] <Johanspess> http://pastebin.com/hRMe7BvS
#740 [10:02] <Johanspess> the only stuff I could find on this error by googling it was Java's site saying "we're working on it, try this" and their suggestion not working.
#741 [10:02] <Johanspess> well, that and stuff from 2003 that didn't help at all
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#743 [10:03] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow.
#744 [10:03] <Johanspess> did I somehow completely miss a really obvious fix, or is that a really bad "oh wow"
#745 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> I haven't seen it screw up that badly.. and I've been 'working' here for a couple of months now
#746 [10:04] <Johanspess> I hate my life
#747 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> But
#748 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> JRE version: 6.0_23-b05
#749 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> There's a new java version out already?
#750 [10:04] <Johanspess> dunno :o
#751 [10:04] <Red> What OS are you on?
#752 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> Did you get java from java.com?
#753 [10:05] <Johanspess> vista
#754 [10:05] <Johanspess> yeah
#755 [10:05] <Red> Installed Java properly?
#756 [10:05] <Red> Try look this up on the forum
#757 [10:05] <Johanspess> I installed Java, but when I go to the verify Java page on their site, it tells me additional plugins are required.
#758 [10:05] <Johanspess> when I go to get said plugins, it asks me to reinstall Java, and then gives me Error 1723
#759 [10:06] <Johanspess> because some DLL can't be found or something
#760 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#761 [10:06] <Johanspess> basically I think I'm caught in a catch 22
#762 [10:06] <Red> Reinstall the VM
#763 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> See, I'm still using java 1.6.0_22
#764 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> I'm wondering if you need a newer version of lwjgl
#765 [10:07] <Red> Try uninstall, get a software to clear up your registry then reinstall.
#766 [10:07] <Red> CCleaner is pretty good
#767 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> When does it crash? Do you get to the package update stage in minecraft?
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#769 [10:08] <Kissen93> Hi! If I buy the beta, will I get the full game when its out?
#770 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#771 [10:08] <Red> Don't you have to pay though?
#772 [10:08] <Johanspess> Hey, sorry, was afk for a moment
#773 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#774 [10:09] <thereddeh> id hurry and buy the alpha ;)
#775 [10:09] <Red> If Mojang is a company, why doesn't it have a physical address or phone number for contact?
#776 [10:09] <Johanspess> Just assume I'm a piece of meat who doesn't know a thing about this stuff, is a VM a virtual machine or do you mean something else?
#777 [10:09] <Red> Yes it is
#778 [10:09] <Red> Virtual Machine
#779 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> Red - Because it was formerly a one person operation
#780 [10:09] <Kissen93> So if I buy either alpha or beta verision I will get the full game?
#781 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> Notch only recently got an office
#782 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> and more people
#783 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes Kissen93
#784 [10:10] <Kissen93> Thanks, thats all I wanted to hear!
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#786 [10:10] <Johanspess> and it crashes almost instantly upon login, when I log in it flashes that it's downloading or updating but only for a fraction of a second, then crashes and an error report spawns.
#787 [10:10] <Red> But Mojang has got employees and such, shouldn't he give the address, even if he got it recently?
#788 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> Why should he?
#789 [10:11] <thereddeh> its somewhere in skandinavia who cares ;p
#790 [10:11] <Red> Well it's common. If your a business, to show you are legitimate you have to have certain things
#791 [10:11] <Johanspess> shit, I have to BUY ccleaner?
#792 [10:11] <Red> Address, number. Some sort of direct contact.
#793 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Red - He's already hired a lawyer, taken care of all that stuff
#794 [10:11] <Mjiig> Johanspess: ccleaner is free
#795 [10:11] <Red> Yea
#796 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> If you wanted to get in contact with the CEO, daniel@mojang.com
#797 [10:11] <Mjiig> or was last time i checked
#798 [10:12] <Mjiig> they ask for a donation
#799 [10:12] <Mjiig> but that's it
#800 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> Or if you wanted to contact him, notch@mojang.com
#801 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> He's also reachable through twitter.
#802 [10:12] <Johanspess> ahhhh alright
#803 [10:12] <Red> I have, I haven't received a reply.
#804 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> reply for..
#805 [10:12] <Red> I mean by email
#806 [10:12] <Red> A question, lol.
#807 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> Okay...
#808 [10:12] <Red> Hmm, just doesn't seem very legit.
#809 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> Well, he answers dozens of questions through twitter every day
#810 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> Meh.
#811 [10:13] <Red> Hmm, then I'm going to have to make a twitter now. Wonderful.
#812 [10:13] <Red> Thanks for the help though.
#813 [10:14] <Red> Is there anyway to reserve a copy of Alpha? Im dying to get it but can't seem to get around sorting things out.
#814 [10:14] <Red> :3
#815 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> Buy yourself a gift code right now
#816 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> then redeem when you want to
#817 [10:14] <Red> Ahh, that's what it does
#818 [10:14] <Red> I was kind of lost about it.
#819 [10:15] <GreyVulpine> It's so you can buy a code, give that code to somebody else as a present
#820 [10:15] <Red> But then it's they payment which I can't seem to fix. Issues of my own.
#821 [10:15] <Red> If I were to get it now it would be a Alpha account, right?
#822 [10:15] <Red> and I can use it for myself?
#823 [10:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#824 [10:15] <GreyVulpine> If you get it right now, before beta comes out today
#825 [10:16] <Red> Nicee. Thanks :3
#826 [10:16] <Red> Do you have any idea when Beta is coming out??
#827 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> It should still be 9.95 euros or about 15 bucks
#828 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> Today.. is all we know
#829 [10:16] <Johanspess> holy hell ccleaner found like 1100 problems in my registry
#830 [10:16] <Johanspess> god damn
#831 [10:16] <Red> Ahh
#832 [10:16] <Red> lol
#833 [10:16] <Red> Fix them. Then re-install.
#834 [10:16] <Johanspess> welp let's try doing that java thingy now then
#835 [10:16] <Red> Ok, Grey. Thankssss
#836 [10:17] <Mjiig> Johanspess: that's windows for you :)
#837 [10:17] <Johanspess> indeed
#838 [10:17] <Johanspess> well it failed to automatically install it again, so I'm going to try manual but that's probably going to fail like last time too.
#839 [10:18] <Red> Manual ftw
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#842 [10:18] <Johanspess> yeah as handy as ccleaner is I don't think it fixed the problem.
#843 [10:18] <Red> It's be nice if they had a system to reserve a account for like a day or two
#844 [10:18] <Johanspess> yep, error 1723
#845 [10:19] <Red> ...
#846 [10:19] <Triggerdusk> Can someone help me figure out what happend to my save file?
#847 [10:19] <Red> Did you download the correct java package
#848 [10:19] <Johanspess> It's automatically directing me to a single one
#849 [10:19] <Red> Read: http://www.javafixer.org/error-1723.php
#850 [10:21] <Red> Any help?
#851 [10:21] <Triggerdusk> for me?
#852 [10:21] <Red> No, Johanspess
#853 [10:21] <Red> Sorry, lol.
#854 [10:21] <Triggerdusk> oh ok
#855 [10:21] <Johanspess> Well, I reinstalled Windows Installer already
#856 [10:21] <Johanspess> last night
#857 [10:21] <Johanspess> but maybe ccleaner fixed something
#858 [10:21] <Johanspess> who knows
#859 [10:21] <Triggerdusk> lol its fine just my long worked on save file dissaperard
#860 [10:21] <Johanspess> I'll try it again
#861 [10:22] <Red> Lol, 1100 problems fixed
#862 [10:22] <Johanspess> indeed
#863 [10:22] <Red> Triggerdusk I don't have Minecraft so can't help you there
#864 [10:22] <Red> :P
#865 [10:22] <Triggerdusk> then why are you in the minecraft irc?
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#867 [10:23] <Red> It's a help IRC, I need help about it, before getting it? Make sense lol
#868 [10:24] <Triggerdusk> not really what do you need help about it with?
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#870 [10:24] <Red> Well it's kind of sorted, but it was about the website be legit and stuff :)
#871 [10:25] <Triggerdusk> lol really? have you tried playing the free versiont hat would really prove alot
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#873 [10:26] <Red> Yea I have.
#874 [10:26] <Red> Free Version Hat? Lol.
#875 [10:26] <Triggerdusk> well there you go ^^
#876 [10:26] <Triggerdusk> free version that*
#877 [10:27] <Red> Oh, yea. But the website seems dodgy. Just making sure.
#878 [10:27] <Triggerdusk> how so?
#879 [10:28] <Red> No address, phone number. Most business have those.
#880 [10:28] <Red> If you think about it.
#881 [10:29] <Triggerdusk> well thats just it its not buissness website its a game website
#882 [10:29] <Red> If you do buying and selling it is a business. A service in exchange for money.
#883 [10:30] <Red> And plus, one dude selling stuff. How much can you trust em? I just happened to read this article recently some I feel more aware :3
#884 [10:31] <Triggerdusk> not really, your buyign an upgarde to your account,your alos buying the game but that doesnt mean he needs to put a number on it. seeing as minecraft isnt the name of the company that is producing it plus he would get swamped with calls if there was a number or get harrased if there was a adress
#885 [10:31] <Triggerdusk> well congrats you read an artical on the internet lol im skeptical about EVERYTHING when coming online
#886 [10:31] <Triggerdusk> i do undersand where ur coming from trust me
#887 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Red, the guy's not a professional everything, he's a java programmer. He's still working on minecraft and everything else
#888 [10:32] <Red> He's got a lawyer to deal with the harassment. His company, Mojang, neither has address or anything.
#889 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Last I heard from his twitter, he's got a consultant to work on the website
#890 [10:33] <Triggerdusk> thank you greyvulpine
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#893 [10:33] <Triggerdusk> Red your assumptions arnt unfounded i know but minecraft is legit and so is the website
#894 [10:34] <Triggerdusk> it wouldnt still be getting all this press and notirity if it wasnt
#895 [10:34] <Red> It doesn't really matter if your a professional or not, if you have a company there would be certain things you should do, and include. And when I comes to money, whoa, no question.
#896 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> What are we up to, 700 thousand registered users?
#897 [10:34] <Red> And?
#898 [10:34] <Red> Im not saying he will do anything dodgy
#899 [10:34] <Triggerdusk> yea i think about 30k plus past the 7ook mark
#900 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Obviously some of us trust him enough to give him money
#901 [10:34] <Triggerdusk> hell id buy it twice >.<
#902 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> He's not EA or valve, with thousands of users
#903 [10:35] <Red> but you have not grantee
#904 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> and a dedicated support team
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#906 [10:35] <Triggerdusk> um yea we kinda do
#907 [10:35] <Red> How?
#908 [10:35] <Triggerdusk> -pokes paypal- see these ppl
#909 [10:35] <Zenreich> GreyVulpine, over 2 million registered, over 835,000 bought
#910 [10:35] <thereddeh> lol its only 10 euros anyway
#911 [10:35] <Triggerdusk> they would pull there service from the site if he was doing anything illegal
#912 [10:36] <Triggerdusk> witch is 134 usd
#913 [10:36] <Triggerdusk> $13
#914 [10:36] <Red> Lol, you don't know what he would do if he were to do anything illegal
#915 [10:36] <Zenreich> :/
#916 [10:36] <thereddeh> just the alpha is worth that so ;p
#917 [10:36] <Zenreich> Red, what would he do?
#918 [10:36] <Triggerdusk> oi -facepalm-
#919 [10:36] <Zenreich> Is he hacking the Pentagon with a java game?
#920 [10:36] <Red> Rofl
#921 [10:36] <Red> That'd be kewl
#922 [10:37] <Triggerdusk> that must be it lol
#923 [10:37] <Zenreich> And uh
#924 [10:37] <Zenreich> This isnt help discussion
#925 [10:37] <thereddeh> he might build the pentagon in a javagame and then destroy it ;p
#926 [10:37] <Red> Can someone /cls
#927 [10:37] <Triggerdusk> thank you zen i was just abotu to mention that
#928 [10:38] <Triggerdusk> i came in here to find out about why my save dissappeared
#929 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Triggerdusk - Did your computer power off mid-game?
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#931 [10:39] <Triggerdusk> >.> well it had saved before then and um yea >.<
#932 [10:39] <hopefulminer> can someone answer a question about the alpha purchase for me?
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#934 [10:40] <Triggerdusk> what about it?
#935 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Triggerdusk, do you know where your .minecraft folder is?
#936 [10:40] <Triggerdusk> hmmm no where would it be?
#937 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you running?
#938 [10:40] <Triggerdusk> windows vista hp
#939 [10:40] <Zenreich> Triggerdusk, Start -> Run -> %APPDATA%
#940 [10:40] * GreyVulpine nods
#940 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Then, go to your roaming, then .minecraft folder
#941 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> look in the saves folder
#942 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> Each save is world1-world5
#943 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> Do you see your save there?
#944 [10:41] <Triggerdusk> theres no minecraft folder
#945 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> dot minecraft
#946 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> .minecraft
#947 [10:41] <hopefulminer> It says purchase during beta won't have the free updates. It also says this rule will only affect those who purchase after the 20th. Am I too late to get the alpha or not?
#948 [10:41] <Zenreich> Do any of you guys know anything about the SocketException/Socket Write Error issue? It suddenly came up last night, and I don't have an Atheros card.
#949 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> hopefulminer - beta will get free updates as well.
#950 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> Look at the site
#951 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> do you still see minecraft for 9.95 euros?
#952 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> If you do, alpha is still available
#953 [10:42] <Zenreich> Now thats silly
#954 [10:42] <Triggerdusk> i read beta wont get free updates
#955 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> It will
#956 [10:42] <Zenreich> If he wasnt going to provide free updates, why would he make them pay more?
#957 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> Early adopters of alpha pay 9.95, people who buy it during beta pay 15 euros
#958 [10:43] <Mjiig> Triggerdusk: it will get updated to full
#959 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Both get free updates
#960 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Both get the full version when it comes out for free
#961 [10:43] <hopefulminer> I do see it for 9.95, I just wondered as I had also read something posted by notch saying beta was 20th and price was going to go up
#962 [10:43] <Triggerdusk> still cant find my .minecraft folder
#963 [10:43] <Mjiig> it just won't get any extra extentions he makes
#964 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> alpha, on the other hand, get expansions for free
#965 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Beta, won't
#966 [10:43] <thereddeh> i read somewhere that beta wouldnt get free updates
#967 [10:43] <thereddeh> oh yeah that
#968 [10:43] <thereddeh> |'
#969 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> updates != expansions
#970 [10:43] <Mjiig> thereddeh: won't get *all* free updates
#971 [10:43] <hopefulminer> expansions not updates. I must have read it wrong
#972 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Both get all updates and bug fixes for free
#973 [10:44] <Triggerdusk> sigh
#974 [10:44] <Zenreich> GreyVulpine, but why not? He makes them pay more, so I think they should
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#976 [10:45] <Zenreich> Why make the people who paid more to begin with pay even more later?
#977 [10:45] <hopefulminer> So even though it's 20th, the fact the alpha purchase price is still available means I'm good to go?
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#979 [10:45] <Zenreich> hopefulminer, beta isnt out yet
#980 [10:45] <Mjiig> hopefulminer: it will become beta at some point today
#981 [10:45] <Zenreich> they're still working on switching the site over
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#983 [10:45] <Mjiig> but it hasn't yet
#984 [10:45] <thereddeh> time to order me some sushi xD
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#986 [10:45] <hopefulminer> Thanks for the help
#987 [10:46] <Mjiig> Zenreich: he promised people who bought alpha all free updates
#988 [10:46] <Mjiig> so he is keeping that promise
#989 [10:46] <Mjiig> but he has decided that for some reason he doesn't want to keep giving away so much stuff free
#990 [10:46] <Zenreich> Ah.
#991 [10:46] <Mjiig> so has changed the lisence
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#993 [10:47] <Papolak> When will the beta??
#994 [10:47] <Zenreich> Papolak, sometime today
#995 [10:47] <thereddeh> when will the beta what
#996 [10:48] <Papolak> A wiecie coś więcej??
#997 [10:48] <Papolak> sory
#998 [10:48] <Mjiig> unless notch time comes into play :)
#999 [10:48] <Papolak> And you know something more?
#1000 [10:48] <Papolak> I can not wait
#1001 [10:49] <Papolak> and is there any contact with Notch?
#1002 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> notch@mojang.com
#1003 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> payment@mojang.com
#1004 [10:50] <Papolak> ok thanks
#1005 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> twitter at "notch
#1006 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> "
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#1008 [10:55] <Papolak> A write off?
#1009 [10:56] <Papolak> You understand me?
#1010 [10:56] <Papolak> Since I am a Pole, and Not really I can speak English.
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#1016 [10:59] <Jabelius> Hi, Can someone help me with Zan's minimap mod?
#1017 [10:59] <Jabelius> Installing ModLoader v1.2.6v2 ... java.io.IOException: Error in writing existing jar file at sun.tools.jar.Main.run(Unknown Source) at sun.tools.jar.Main.main(Unknown Source) Done!
#1018 [10:59] <Jabelius> Thats all its giving me
#1019 [11:01] <Jabelius> Am I missing an installation step or what?
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#1023 [11:03] <Fotsopp> uhm so before the gift thingies came out i created 2 accounts for my friend. they worked for a while but when it swithced to beta theystopped working D: WHAT DO?????
#1024 [11:04] <Mjiig> does anyone know what the "limit framerate" option does?
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#1026 [11:04] <Jorc> Hey, how do I update my Minecraft to the beta?
#1027 [11:04] <Jorc> Like, download new patch
#1028 [11:04] <Mjiig> Jorc: it's not out yet
#1029 [11:05] <Jorc> Ah okay
#1030 [11:05] <Mjiig> should be later today
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#1032 [11:05] <Jorc> And also one more thing - I wanna find someone to play Survival Multiplayer with, but I dont really know anyone :b How can I find someone?
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#1034 [11:05] <thereddeh> me me me oooohhh pick meee
#1035 [11:05] <Jorc> really? :)
#1036 [11:06] <thereddeh> no.
#1037 [11:06] <Jorc> :(
#1038 [11:06] <Mjiig> bit harsh...
#1039 [11:06] <thereddeh> im like that +p
#1040 [11:06] <Fotsopp> but people where should i complain when the accounts i bought for my friend stopped working?
#1041 [11:06] <thereddeh> what are ur plans for survival mp Jorc?
#1042 [11:07] <thereddeh> dont wanna stick in hours for something that wont last long ;p
#1043 [11:07] <Jabelius> Hi, Can someone help me with Zan's minimap mod?
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#1046 [11:07] <Jorc> I dont really know
#1047 [11:08] <Jorc> What would yours be?
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#1049 [11:08] <Jorc> I just sorta wanna play with someone, not really fussed what we do there
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#1051 [11:09] <Jorc> What kindof plans can you have for smp?
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#1054 [11:12] <Fotsopp> HELP! where should i go to get my accounts fixed??? they both stopped working D:
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#1060 [11:19] <Johannes> Help ME PLEASE: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=110176
#1061 [11:22] <Jabelius> Johannes fin?
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#1065 [11:23] <Johannes> what
#1066 [11:23] <Johannes> fin?
#1067 [11:23] <thereddeh> its french ;p
#1068 [11:23] <Johannes> ok
#1069 [11:23] <Johannes> very helpful
#1070 [11:24] <thereddeh> or maybe finish as well
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#1072 [11:24] <Johannes> yea
#1073 [11:24] <Johannes> but that don't make sence
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#1075 [11:24] <Johannes> johannes finsih
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#1077 [11:24] <whosisthis> hey guys is minecraft not loading for everyone
#1078 [11:24] <whosisthis> ?
#1079 [11:24] <JoBrittain> dunno
#1080 [11:24] <JoBrittain> but i got this issue: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=110176
#1081 [11:24] <whosisthis> will it load for u?
#1082 [11:24] <JoBrittain> no
#1083 [11:25] <thereddeh> im playing it right now
#1084 [11:25] <JoBrittain> not for my bro
#1085 [11:25] <JoBrittain> HELP ME PLEASE: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=110176
#1086 [11:25] <whosisthis> no idea
#1087 [11:25] <whosisthis> can someone try to start the game?
#1088 [11:25] <JoBrittain> lovely people of the IRC
#1089 [11:25] <JoBrittain> help meeeeeeee
#1090 [11:25] <JoBrittain> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=110176
#1091 [11:25] <whosisthis> caus its not starting lol
#1092 [11:25] <whosisthis> dude stop spamming
#1093 [11:26] <JoBrittain> you stop spamming
#1094 [11:26] <whosisthis> lol
#1095 [11:26] <thereddeh> lmao
#1096 [11:26] <JoBrittain> rofl
#1097 [11:26] <thereddeh> lets all stop spamming
#1098 [11:26] <whosisthis> ur link is on here 3 times if someone wants to help you they will
#1099 [11:26] <JoBrittain> well
#1100 [11:26] <thereddeh> i was about to but now i wont
#1101 [11:26] <JoBrittain> they might not see it
#1102 [11:26] <thereddeh> (and cant)
#1103 [11:26] <whosisthis> hah
#1104 [11:26] <JoBrittain> k
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#1109 [11:36] <mistenkt> hi, is there any way to make it so that if i turn one switch on, another switch gets turned off?
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#1111 [11:36] <MistarC> mistenkt: logic gates
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#1114 [11:37] <thereddeh> google redstone logicgates
#1115 [11:37] <thereddeh> welcome tpo the world of fun ;p
#1116 [11:37] <mistenkt> which logic gate would be best suited for this thing then ?
#1117 [11:38] <Orel> Does anybody know a good way to build underwater base? I've tried to use reed to create some air pockets, but it didn't work.
#1118 [11:39] <ionface> Orel, use a bucket
#1119 [11:39] * BlkDimnd need help with his Minecraft addiction.
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#1120 [11:40] <thereddeh> BlkDimnd: we have a support group for those addiction
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#1122 [11:40] <ionface> Orel, alternatively, fill it with sand, create walls and then dig it out
#1123 [11:40] <thereddeh> we gather every tuesday and friday on a server and build how we feel
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#1125 [11:42] <BlkDimnd> Quick question, I have just discovered Minecraft (got the Alpha YAY!), and found Cratograph, what other programs do you recomend?
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#1127 [11:46] <mistenkt> hmm not really finding which logicgate i should use
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#1130 [11:47] <mistenkt> seems that if one lever is on, the other one cannot make it turn off
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#1132 [11:48] <thereddeh> mistenkt: everything is possible :P
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#1135 [11:49] <mistenkt> mind helping me with which logic gate i should use then ?
#1136 [11:50] <Orel> mistenkt: what do you want to build?
#1137 [11:50] <mistenkt> a track switch. that i can flick at both the departure and the arival point
#1138 [11:51] <mistenkt> i want to activate/deactivate one track switch from two different places
#1139 [11:51] <mistenkt> atm im not able to do anythin at place #2 when the switch is on at place #1 and the other way around
#1140 [11:51] <Orel> XOR gate?
#1141 [11:52] <Orel> if both switches are on or off, it sends 0. if only one is on, it sends 1.
#1142 [11:52] <Orel> But i can't remember schematics, sorry.
#1143 [11:52] <mistenkt> well i see how to build it on wiki
#1144 [11:52] <Orel> i think you need XOR or XNOR (inverted XOR)
#1145 [11:53] <mistenkt> ill see if that does the trick
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#1148 [11:56] <MiXz> How dose the skins work ?
#1149 [11:57] <Orel> MiXz: server side or client side?
#1150 [11:57] <MiXz> both
#1151 [11:57] <MiXz> how come that some ppl that dont both the game can have skins that shows in servers ?
#1152 [11:57] <Orel> if you have bought MC, you can upload you skin to the minecraft.net
#1153 [11:57] <Orel> yes, it is
#1154 [11:58] <Orel> then go to http://minecraft.net/skin/
#1155 [11:58] <Orel> And upload your skin there (png file)
#1156 [11:58] <Orel> And you will have this skin both in single and multiplayer
#1157 [11:59] <mistenkt> xor did the trick thanks Orel :)
#1158 [11:59] <Orel> http://www.minersneedcoolshoes.com/ here is nice online skin editor. use it if you want.
#1159 [11:59] <Orel> mistenkt: you're welcome =)
#1160 [11:59] <MiXz> is there some other way than to upload via the profile on the website for receiving the skin that appear on the server?
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#1163 [12:00] <Orel> MiXz: no, i think not. You can replace default player skin, but it will affect single player only.
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#1165 [12:02] <MiXz> so how come that i have seen that work :S
#1166 [12:02] <Orel> i dunno... really. May be mod/custom server?
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#1168 [12:03] <MiXz> can be dont know...
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#1171 [12:09] <das_j> if I have payed for alpha, is beta free?
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#1173 [12:10] <Goose> Hello kealper
#1174 [12:10] <Goose> are u there?
#1175 [12:10] <Orel> das_j: as far as i know - yes
#1176 [12:10] <Orel> beta and all releases
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#1178 [12:10] <das_j> cool thx
#1179 [12:10] <Goose> anway i just wondered isnt beta suppose to realse today?
#1180 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> It is
#1181 [12:11] <das_j> yes notch sayed so
#1182 [12:11] <Orel> Goose: i dunno, may be Notch fixing it up quickly.
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#1192 [12:25] <Jorc> Hey, Im looking for a %appdata%/.minecraft folder so I can download a mod and put it in there, butI dont seem to have one, anyone know why?
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#1194 [12:26] <Orel[away]> Jorc: what OS does your computer run?
#1195 [12:27] <Jorc> Windows vista
#1196 [12:28] <Orel[away]> Probably C:\Users\yourusername\Application Data\.minecraft Not sure though.
#1197 [12:28] <thereddeh> just type %appdata% in explorer
#1198 [12:28] <Jorc> Okay ill look for it, thanks
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#1201 [12:30] <arron> is the beta out yet
#1202 [12:31] <Mjiig> don't think so
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#1204 [12:31] <arron> o.o
#1205 [12:31] <thereddeh> lol not untill 20 dec 2011
#1206 [12:31] <esper_violetzie> Hello everyone, is here anyone that could help me with minecraft issue?
#1207 [12:31] <arron> it is the 20th its 17.31 over here in the u.k thats why i asked
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#1210 [12:32] <lolminer> so its december 20th weres the beta?!?!
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#1212 [12:33] <Mjiig> they didn't say when it would come out today
#1213 [12:33] <Mjiig> just that it would come out today
#1214 [12:33] <lolminer> well thats gay
#1215 [12:33] <Mjiig> also allow for the fact that it a very very small coding team, overruns are very possible
#1216 [12:33] <lolminer> i hope not
#1217 [12:34] <lolminer> im kinda lookin forward to it
#1218 [12:34] <esper_violetzie> Anyone help? :/
#1219 [12:34] <Mjiig> esper_violetzie: say what your issue is and if someone can help, they will
#1220 [12:34] <Jorc> Okay - Im tryna use the Updater for BetterLight but its asking me to select a place for "Output", where should I select it to go?
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#1222 [12:35] <lolminer> the servers are going to be upgraded aswelll right
#1223 [12:35] <lolminer> ?
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#1225 [12:36] <esper_violetzie> I bought the game yesterday, but I cannot log in, the browser client works fine but the PC client tells me "Can't connect to minecraft.net" everytime I log in with my username and password, I'm getting really nervous, I don't wanna play this game in browser, that's not what I bought. Also I checked windows firewall (dont have any else), its ok. help?
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#1227 [12:36] <DFC> hmmm
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#1229 [12:37] <DFC> i have a question regarding tree farms
#1230 [12:37] <DFC> what is the optimal height and spacing
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#1233 [12:42] <Jorc> Hmm ok now I downloaded BetterLight
#1234 [12:42] <Jorc> Does it just work on its own?
#1235 [12:42] <Jorc> As soon as i enter the game will it be working and on?
#1236 [12:43] <esper_violetzie> dammm im really fkd up :/
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#1238 [12:45] <Orel> DFC: afaik you need at least 4 blocks... i'd used 5 blocks for regular trees
#1239 [12:45] <DFC> hmm
#1240 [12:45] <DFC> i dug 6 blocks in
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#1242 [12:45] <DFC> the wiki suggested 8
#1243 [12:46] <Orel> 8? I think that's enough for big trees
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#1247 [12:47] <DFC> how far is the harvest range?
#1248 [12:47] <DFC> 6 right?
#1249 [12:48] <Orel> óêêü
#1250 [12:48] <Orel> errm
#1251 [12:48] <Orel> 4 blocks
#1252 [12:48] <DFC> alright
#1253 [12:48] <DFC> i have dug way too low
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#1255 [12:49] <DFC> its going to get pesky if those tree stumps dont burn
#1256 [12:49] <DFC> now i need some sort of fire setter to purge the leaves
#1257 [12:49] <Orel> flint and steel
#1258 [12:49] <Orel> =)
#1259 [12:49] <DFC> i have a glass ceiling for it :D
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#1261 [12:49] <DFC> its going too look pretty from above i guess
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#1263 [12:49] <DFC> unless the glass burns..
#1264 [12:50] <thereddeh> glass doesnt burn
#1265 [12:50] <DFC> glad to hear that
#1266 [12:50] <DFC> else i would be raging hard
#1267 [12:50] <thereddeh> it breaks
#1268 [12:50] <thereddeh> ;p
#1269 [12:50] <thereddeh> nah its fine\
#1270 [12:50] <DFC> then again with a tree farm
#1271 [12:50] <Orel> i made nice mob tower recently... works fine, but there is too much feathers -_-
#1272 [12:50] <DFC> getting glass would be easy
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#1274 [12:51] <thereddeh> how is getting glass with a treefarm easier
#1275 [12:51] <DFC> fuel for furnaces
#1276 [12:51] <thereddeh> ohh
#1277 [12:51] <Zauru> Is there any way to update a server from Alpha to play it in Beta? It keeps saying Outdated Server.
#1278 [12:51] <Orel> coal is cheap
#1279 [12:51] <thereddeh> i always use coal
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#1281 [12:51] <DFC> my spawn point is very sandy
#1282 [12:51] <DFC> so in the process of digging my treefarm ditch
#1283 [12:51] <DFC> lots of sand to spare
#1284 [12:51] <Zauru> Does anyone know?
#1285 [12:52] <DFC> and i plan to replace my walls with stone
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#1288 [12:52] <Mjiig> Orel: how is coal cheap? you have to mine tonnes of rock to get some
#1289 [12:52] <DFC> not to mention wood is renewable
#1290 [12:53] <thereddeh> how much glass can u melt on 1 log?
#1291 [12:53] <DFC> errrr
#1292 [12:53] <DFC> you melt
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#1295 [12:53] <DFC> 43 sand on 64 planks
#1296 [12:54] <Zauru> Can anyone help with updating the server?
#1297 [12:54] <thereddeh> only 8 coal for 64 sand
#1298 [12:54] <DFC> but i dont wanna go mine the damn coal :3
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#1304 [12:56] <Slam> HELLO
#1305 [12:56] <Slam> I NEED HELP
#1306 [12:56] <Slam> WHAT IS * .. and something else, which is even more rare
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#1308 [12:56] <Raven0> are gift codes for alpha or for beta?
#1309 [12:57] <Orel> Slam: only Notch knows
#1310 [12:57] <Orel> Raven0: gift codes bought from now are for beta
#1311 [12:57] <Raven0> ok, and if someone got them before
#1312 [12:57] <Orel> then for alpha
#1313 [12:57] <Raven0> and gave me today, i have alpha now or?
#1314 [12:57] <Zauru> Gift codes are for Beta, but give you the benefits of an Alpha account
#1315 [12:58] <Orel> alpha
#1316 [12:58] <Raven0> nice
#1317 [12:58] <Raven0> :D
#1318 [12:58] <Raven0> ty guys :)
#1319 [12:58] <Zauru> Is anyone knowledgable about server management? Is there any way to update an Alpha server into the Beta?
#1320 [12:58] <Zauru> From what I can see, all the Alpha servers are inaccessible due to them being out of date.
#1321 [12:59] <Leonassan> http://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/16912825591013377
#1322 [12:59] <Zauru> Ah, I see. So they'll update themselves?
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#1324 [13:00] <Orel> they should update
#1325 [13:00] <arron> stoping the web sever dose that meen hes rolloing out the update?
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#1327 [13:01] <Zauru> I would assume so.
#1328 [13:02] <arron> ah cool so dose that meen the muntiplay sever we have wont work?
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#1330 [13:03] <Zauru> Not right now.
#1331 [13:03] <Zauru> Because the servers are offline.
#1332 [13:03] <Zauru> Just wait it out
#1333 [13:04] <thereddeh> mc is upgrading :o
#1334 [13:04] <thereddeh> ohhhh
#1335 [13:04] <thereddeh> finally beta
#1336 [13:04] <thereddeh> I HAVE IT
#1337 [13:04] <thereddeh> wooo
#1338 [13:04] <thereddeh> 1.0
#1339 [13:04] <arron> cool
#1340 [13:04] <thereddeh> save still works ;p
#1341 [13:05] <arron> so whats new in beta?
#1342 [13:05] <thereddeh> dunno :P
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#1345 [13:05] <thereddeh> clouds are bigger?
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#1347 [13:05] <xlo-milkflow> my friend's server is getting some overflow error while the clients get java.net.socketexception: software caused connection abort
#1348 [13:06] <xlo-milkflow> any ideas how to fix this?
#1349 [13:06] <arron> looks the same to me
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#1351 [13:06] <Mjiig> notch just did a blog post about what he added
#1352 [13:06] <Mjiig> but it's mostly minor changes and bug fixes
#1353 [13:06] <arron> can i have a link pls
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#1355 [13:07] <Mjiig> http://notch.tumblr.com/
#1356 [13:07] <patrickmurphy> HEY can i get some help for a MAC BETA DOWNLOADER?
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#1358 [13:07] <joou> hi
#1359 [13:07] <patrickmurphy> HEY anybody having mac problems??!
#1360 [13:08] <joou> i just want to purchase this game, but i saw it cost more than before 10 minutes
#1361 [13:08] <arron> * .. and something else, which is even more rare?!?! whats this about in his blog post?!
#1362 [13:08] <joou> i have macosx :(
#1363 [13:08] <Mjiig> joou: it just when from alpha to beta
#1364 [13:08] <Orel> joou: you're too late
#1365 [13:08] <Mjiig> so they raised the cost
#1366 [13:09] <Mjiig> and changed the lisence slightly
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#1368 [13:09] <joou> oh, sh*t … is posible to get it somewhere cheaper ? im using yet a cracked versuion and and dont want
#1369 [13:09] <arron> o.o
#1370 [13:10] <Mjiig> joou: unless you can find someone who bought a gift code before it changed
#1371 [13:10] <thereddeh> omg send his ip to the feds
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#1374 [13:10] <Mjiig> then you aren't going to be able to get it legitimately for less than the new price
#1375 [13:10] <thereddeh> hmm everythime i press escape its autosiving
#1376 [13:10] <Dvonio> ey guys I download the new minecraft_server.jar but it dosnt let the people enter, people enter and then refuses with a error.
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#1378 [13:11] <arron> severs are down
#1379 [13:11] <arron> i think because it just gone beta
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#1382 [13:11] <jennifer> java.io.eofexception when i try to connct to my friends server we used to play on. whts this?
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#1384 [13:12] <xlo-milkflow> same here jennifer
#1385 [13:13] <chironex> Is there any way to kill spiders other than melee/arrows which will yield string?
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#1387 [13:13] <chironex> I.E., will more destructive methods yield string? Such as fire?
#1388 [13:13] <Mjiig> is anyone else finding that the ground is now littered with saplings?
#1389 [13:13] <Mjiig> or is that just me
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#1391 [13:14] <arron> im haveing alook
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#1393 [13:15] <Jimminy> What is "non-intrusive narrative to the game" and when does it come into play?
#1394 [13:16] <Mjiig> Jimminy: it means he plans to add a story
#1395 [13:16] <Mjiig> or something like it
#1396 [13:16] <arron> im haveing freezing and its loading slowly o.o
#1397 [13:16] <jennifer> its the crate bug Mjiig
#1398 [13:16] <jennifer> already known
#1399 [13:16] <Jimminy> It wasn't implemented into beta?
#1400 [13:16] <jennifer> oh no
#1401 [13:16] <Orel> chironex: lava yields string
#1402 [13:16] <jennifer> it isnt
#1403 [13:16] <chironex> Anyone willing to answer my question?
#1404 [13:16] <jennifer> some cant remove the last 2 rows of stones on the ground
#1405 [13:17] <Coll> beta isnt out yet is it?
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#1407 [13:17] <Jimminy> It's out already.
#1408 [13:17] <Mjiig> Coll: it is
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#1410 [13:17] <arron> yea
#1411 [13:17] <Coll> oh
#1412 [13:17] <Coll> ok
#1413 [13:17] <Roenie> wheres the file tho
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#1415 [13:17] <Coll> meh doesnt seem like anything worth getting all happy about
#1416 [13:17] <Coll> ill have to wait then
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#1421 [13:19] <Coll> question do minecarts work as they are supposed to in beta?
#1422 [13:19] <Dvonio> Minecraft_server.jar gives this error to people who try to enter: Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed
#1423 [13:19] <L551> So me and some friends set up a minecart track in SMP, but when using a storage cart (chest + minecart) Half way down the line, the cart stops and loses everything inside it
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#1427 [13:21] <Coll> ok
#1428 [13:21] <majorman> Hey everybody
#1429 [13:21] <Coll> what about just normal minecarts
#1430 [13:21] <Coll> does that work perfectly for the most part?
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#1432 [13:22] <L551> Using normal minecarts, we can ride them just fine
#1433 [13:23] <L551> The special ones have problems
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#1435 [13:23] <Coll> what about booster systems and all that?
#1436 [13:23] <L551> We have boosters.
#1437 [13:23] <L551> Works fine.
#1438 [13:23] <L551> Just not with powered or storage carts.
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#1440 [13:24] <patrickmurphy> HELP!!!!!
#1441 [13:24] <patrickmurphy> HLEP!!!
#1442 [13:24] <Coll> ok
#1443 [13:24] <Coll> that is all I need to know
#1444 [13:24] <Coll> patrick
#1445 [13:24] <patrickmurphy> mac not working, stuck at mojang screen
#1446 [13:24] <Coll> you arnt in any dire need to be screaming help
#1447 [13:24] <Orel> patrickmurphy: beta is kinda bugged now
#1448 [13:24] <patrickmurphy> lol sorry
#1449 [13:24] <Orel> you're losing not too much
#1450 [13:24] <patrickmurphy> any work around?
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#1452 [13:25] <patrickmurphy> so i cant play any minecraft until there's a freakin update?!
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#1456 [13:26] <Platzbo> Can anyone help me? I have a problem with the beta, everytime i click go on the inventory Minecraft crashes
#1457 [13:26] <Orel> patrickmurphy: i dunno. tweet notch
#1458 [13:27] <Dvonio> Minecraft_server.jar gives this error to people who try to enter: Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed
#1459 [13:27] <blaphmat> so... when i got the game i ran into this issue. I came to mibbit and it got fixed
#1460 [13:27] <blaphmat> then when the beta ran around today, the exact same issue arose again
#1461 [13:27] <Platzbo> I dont have tweeter
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#1463 [13:27] <blaphmat> which is when i click on the minecraft icon on my desktop the window opens, it asks me to log in, which i do.
#1464 [13:28] <blaphmat> then it goes to the green bar loading screen, and tells me done loading, even though the bar isn't all the way full and it stays there. frozen it seems
#1465 [13:29] <blaphmat> so is hould take this straight to the link there?
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#1468 [13:29] <Roenie> http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2389820531/minecraft-beta
#1469 [13:29] <Papolak> hi
#1470 [13:29] <Papolak> how to make a latern??
#1471 [13:29] <cppchriscpp> So how full of problems is this place already?
#1472 [13:30] <Orion> im completely hosed
#1473 [13:30] <cppchriscpp> I don't think you can yet papolak - you can only make torches to my knowledge.
#1474 [13:30] <Orel> Papolak: i hope there is no lanterns yet. i hate 'em
#1475 [13:30] <zz> There isn't
#1476 [13:30] <Papolak> ok
#1477 [13:30] <cppchriscpp> Also I could use a bit of a hand if anyone knows anything.. I run a server for my school; just installed the beta.
#1478 [13:30] <cppchriscpp> The entire world is gone ._.
#1479 [13:30] <cppchriscpp> and all players' inventories, etc
#1480 [13:31] <cppchriscpp> is this what was supposed to happen/can anything be recovered?
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#1482 [13:31] <jdodson99> Minecraft isn't loading for meh. D:<
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#1484 [13:31] <jdodson99> Mac OSX 10.5.8, it just sticks on the Mojang page/image/thing
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#1486 [13:31] <Orion> do you backup your world folder cppchriscpp
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#1488 [13:32] <cppchriscpp> I do have a copy of it... wait a second
#1489 [13:32] <cppchriscpp> I restarted the server
#1490 [13:32] <cppchriscpp> and it works
#1491 [13:32] <cppchriscpp> disregard me I am an idiot.
#1492 [13:32] <jdodson99> xD
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#1494 [13:32] <cppchriscpp> If anyone needs me, I'll be over here.
#1495 [13:33] <Orion> for a change like this there should not be an autoupdate now none of my users can log in
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#1497 [13:33] <Jimminy> Why does it say inventory is now server sided when i can still edit my inventory.
#1498 [13:33] <wikirobot> any solution to the java.io.exception erros?
#1499 [13:34] <jdodson99> Halp? MC doesn't load for me. I'm running Mac OSX 10.5.8; it just sticks on the Mojang page/image/thing.
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#1503 [13:35] <jdodson99> ...? Did I kill the chat or something? xD
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#1505 [13:35] <cppchriscpp> jdodson99, I saw a few people saying things about that on the forums
#1506 [13:35] <wikirobot> mac bug is being fixed tommarrow according to notch
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#1508 [13:35] <derhaze> Someone know how to fix the damn blackscreen bug after login?
#1509 [13:35] <wurklash> omfg
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#1511 [13:36] <wurklash> No one can connect to my server for more then 30 seconds
#1512 [13:36] <cppchriscpp> I assume it's known at least.
#1513 [13:36] <wurklash> because of the decay bug
#1514 [13:36] <jdodson99> wikirobot: Of course. He fixes it TOMORROW. xD
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#1516 [13:36] <jdodson99> Lets hope notchtime isn't in play...
#1517 [13:37] <Sebz4n> Is the servers being updated?
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#1519 [13:37] <jdodson99> Possibly, I'm gonna back mine up JIC
#1520 [13:38] <blaphmat> still can't get the done loading bug taken care of yet
#1521 [13:38] <Sebz4n> Guys, is there a way to import a singleplayer save to multiplayer?
#1522 [13:38] <jdodson99> When backing up my server, do I copy everything or just certain folders/files?
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#1524 [13:39] <cppchriscpp> I think you can just grab the world folder
#1525 [13:39] <cppchriscpp> that has all the world and player info
#1526 [13:39] <Orel> @Notch: I will work on the MacOSX launch bug tomorrow!
#1527 [13:39] <Orion> world is critical other files are usefull
#1528 [13:39] <Coll> ahahaha
#1529 [13:39] <Coll> basicly fuck you macs
#1530 [13:39] <jdodson99> So I'll just backup everything (i have hey0 and a few plugins)
#1531 [13:39] <Coll> :D
#1532 [13:39] <Coll> I like this
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#1534 [13:40] <Orion> he should roll it back to alpha and try again after some bug hunting
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#1537 [13:40] <cppchriscpp> nah... he shouldn't have rushed it into beta, but I don't think there's any going back now
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#1539 [13:41] <jdodson99> What's the difference between meat and pork?
#1540 [13:41] <Orel> huh?
#1541 [13:41] <Cial> cppchriscpp, bugs i take it?
#1542 [13:41] <Orel> do you mean grilled and raw pork?
#1543 [13:41] <cppchriscpp> he's just going to need to work his butt off to fix the 800 new bugs introduced by the beta on various platforms. I'm kind of surprised; it almost looks like he never tested it on mac or anthing.
#1544 [13:41] <cppchriscpp> Server burped on me but works fine now.
#1545 [13:42] <jdodson99> No, I found something in the server files that said something about meat and pork, and cooked meat/pork
#1546 [13:42] <cppchriscpp> no idea
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#1549 [13:42] <Orion> well if he dosent he just locked out anyone running custom mods
#1550 [13:43] <majorman> The mac version is working fine for me....
#1551 [13:43] <jdodson99> http://mibpaste.com/ASxtVU
#1552 [13:43] <cppchriscpp> Maybe I'm wrong then.
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#1555 [13:43] <cppchriscpp> Good. I feel slightly better. :p
#1556 [13:43] <jdodson99> So I have to delete hey0?
#1557 [13:44] <jdodson99> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
#1558 [13:44] <Orion> my control programs hey0 none of it works now
#1559 [13:44] <NOT_guru> I will test Heyo when I get home
#1560 [13:44] <NOT_guru> but do note
#1561 [13:44] <Coll> what is the 800 bugs he made with this update
#1562 [13:44] <NOT_guru> Ntch changed the name of the java file you
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#1564 [13:44] <Coll> as far as I know it is just mac with the problem
#1565 [13:44] <NOT_guru> so you could try updating your launcher /cmd or .sh
#1566 [13:45] <NOT_guru> to reflect new java jar server name
#1567 [13:45] <Orion> the problem is the forced client update
#1568 [13:45] <jdodson99> How do I update the launcher?
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#1571 [13:45] <NOT_guru> windows or loonix
#1572 [13:45] <Orion> if it was vollentary this would not be as large of a problem
#1573 [13:45] <jdodson99> Mac.
#1574 [13:45] <jdodson99> xD
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#1576 [13:45] <NOT_guru> you wait till tomorrow
#1577 [13:45] <aetherian> hi
#1578 [13:46] <NOT_guru> notch has updated the twitter to reflect the fix for mac as tomorrow
#1579 [13:46] <NOT_guru> sorry man
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#1581 [13:46] <Jash> Question.
#1582 [13:46] <aetherian> hmm?
#1583 [13:46] <Jash> When running the Minecraft server.jar my CPU usage goes all the way up to 60%
#1584 [13:46] <Jash> Then if I join the server it goes up to 90%.
#1585 [13:46] <thereddeh> yeahh u can throw eggs :>
#1586 [13:46] <aetherian> point?
#1587 [13:47] <aetherian> mine's nearly always at 100%
#1588 [13:47] <aetherian> just don't multitask
#1589 [13:47] <jdodson99> Just buy a mac.
#1590 [13:47] <Jash> I've always ran a server and I've always multitasked. Thank you very much.
#1591 [13:47] <jdodson99> ...when the bug gets fixed.
#1592 [13:47] <jdodson99> xD
#1593 [13:48] <Jash> And mac's are shit... period. I'm not going to pay for some over princed peice of junk that can only use the Adobe Suite.
#1594 [13:48] <jdodson99> O_O
#1595 [13:48] <jdodson99> Boot camp.
#1596 [13:48] <Jash> Then why buy a Mac?
#1597 [13:48] <NOT_guru> question about the gift codes
#1598 [13:48] <NOT_guru> I bought them under alpha
#1599 [13:48] <NOT_guru> but wasn't giving it to the person till christmas
#1600 [13:49] <Jash> They will still be alpha.
#1601 [13:49] <NOT_guru> doers that mean the recipiant will be a beta or an alpha user
#1602 [13:49] <NOT_guru> please say alpha
#1603 [13:49] <Coll> did you even read the website
#1604 [13:49] <NOT_guru> otherwise I coulda just waited
#1605 [13:49] <Coll> posts or bloga
#1606 [13:49] <Coll> they say this
#1607 [13:49] <NOT_guru> awsome
#1608 [13:49] <NOT_guru> I did not see where it stated that
#1609 [13:49] <NOT_guru> I just noticed the LIC did indeed change
#1610 [13:49] <aetherian> codes bought before the 20th will generate alpha accounts when redeemed, even if that’s in six months from now
#1611 [13:50] <aetherian> ^quote by notch
#1612 [13:50] <jdodson99> oooh.
#1613 [13:50] <NOT_guru> Thank you cfor clearing that up aeth
#1614 [13:50] <NOT_guru> I appreciate it
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#1616 [13:50] <aetherian> it's on notch.tumblr.com
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#1619 [13:51] <Jash> So does anyone know why my CPU usage jumps up to about 50% when running it with no one in the server/
#1620 [13:51] <aetherian> ooh I love beta I believe
#1621 [13:51] <Blue_Star> hehe after patching with texture pack i have the alpha version back
#1622 [13:51] <aetherian> throwing eggs
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#1624 [13:51] <Coll> Jash
#1625 [13:51] <Coll> it is java
#1626 [13:51] <Coll> and a server
#1627 [13:51] <aetherian> jash: IT just uses up A BUNCH OF YOUR PC
#1628 [13:51] <aetherian> >:O
#1629 [13:51] <Coll> if you have to ask
#1630 [13:52] <Coll> >.>;
#1631 [13:52] <Jash> I told you I've done it before
#1632 [13:52] <Vixen> disconnect.overflow on new minecraft beta server? can anyone help with this?
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#1634 [13:52] <Jash> and it never has.
#1635 [13:52] <Jash> I'm running a fucking 3.33 Quad Core and 8GB of ram.
#1636 [13:52] <aetherian> and we care?
#1637 [13:52] <aetherian> look
#1638 [13:52] <aetherian> it will do that, always.
#1639 [13:52] <thereddeh> im going on a public server and egg people's houses >-)
#1640 [13:52] <Jash> FALSE it wont.
#1641 [13:52] <aetherian> now quit bragging about your computer
#1642 [13:52] <Jash> It hasn't before.
#1643 [13:53] <Vixen> and help with the disconnect.overflow error?
#1644 [13:53] <Jash> Umad Mac Fag?
#1645 [13:53] <PandaBear> Can anyone send me the minecraft.jar?
#1646 [13:53] <Coll> you mad cant run a server fag
#1647 [13:53] <Vixen> http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1292871195781
#1648 [13:53] <Coll> Panda
#1649 [13:53] <Vixen> ^^^
#1650 [13:53] <Jash> I have before so obviously theres something wrong.
#1651 [13:53] <Coll> why do you need the jar
#1652 [13:53] <Coll> cant you use the launcher
#1653 [13:53] <aetherian> well, /obviously/
#1654 [13:53] <aetherian> >.>
#1655 [13:53] <PandaBear> I'm trying to fix my
#1656 [13:53] <PandaBear> wom client.
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#1658 [13:54] <Vixen> can anyone help with my problem?
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#1660 [13:54] <aetherian> which problem was that?
#1661 [13:54] <Vixen> disconnect.overflow
#1662 [13:55] <Coll> do you have a atheros Nic?
#1663 [13:55] <Vixen> no
#1664 [13:55] <Coll> then I have no clue
#1665 [13:55] <Vixen> ...
#1666 [13:55] <Vixen> only with the beta server
#1667 [13:55] <Coll> ...
#1668 [13:55] <Vixen> old one works fine
#1669 [13:55] <Coll> it just game out for cryin out loud
#1670 [13:55] <Dvonio> Minecraft_server.jar gives this error to people who try to enter: Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed
#1671 [13:55] <Coll> of course it is going to not work sometimes
#1672 [13:55] <Coll> relax and wait for a fix
#1673 [13:55] <Vixen> .....
#1674 [13:56] <Snowey111> I'm having problems updating minecraft. Can someone send me their user\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft bin and resource folder?
#1675 [13:56] <aetherian> ...
#1676 [13:56] <Coll> oh boy
#1677 [13:56] <Coll> the fun begins
#1678 [13:56] <Snowey111> what?
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#1681 [13:56] <aetherian> make sure, guys, that you don't have the password saved onto your mc
#1682 [13:57] <ionface> Snowey111, that isn't a nice thing
#1683 [13:57] <Snowey111> I'm a lil bit confused now.
#1684 [13:57] <xlo-milkflow> aetherian: why
#1685 [13:57] <Jash> There fuck you aetherian. More then just me with this problem.
#1686 [13:57] <Jash> Enjoy your day.
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#1688 [13:58] <aetherian> trololololol
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#1691 [13:58] <thereddeh> crap textures on bricks are fucked
#1692 [13:58] <aetherian> xlo: your password may save itself to what the guy asked for
#1693 [13:58] <Snowey111> -.-
#1694 [13:58] <Snowey111> no that stuff is in lastlogin
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#1700 [13:59] <Snowey111> -.- grey vulpine has helped me update a bunch of times. :/ i hate waiting for him and bothering him really.
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#1703 [14:00] <Snowey111> None wanna help me?
#1704 [14:00] <jimkolp2> Why won't me non-hMod server work?
#1705 [14:00] <ionface> Snowey111, do this, backup and delete your settings folder. install minecraft from scratch
#1706 [14:00] <ionface> if you're not trolling, that will help you.
#1707 [14:00] <Snowey111> nope it wont, but il try anyway.
#1708 [14:00] <mib_ts2cz4> If i buy minecraft during beta, do i get future releases free when it comes out of beta?
#1709 [14:00] <Snowey111> i tried it a bunch of times.
#1710 [14:01] <Snowey111> it wont even download the first file.
#1711 [14:01] <mib_ts2cz4> Or was that only for alpha purchases
#1712 [14:01] <ionface> mib_ts2cz4, no, you have to buy release too
#1713 [14:01] <jimkolp2> I <3 buying in Alpha
#1714 [14:01] <mib_ts2cz4> Well thats lame
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#1716 [14:01] <Snowey111> well you should have bought yesterday
#1717 [14:01] <Snowey111> notch clearly stated that.
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#1719 [14:02] <mib_ts2cz4> Well, I didn't have money yesterday did i?
#1720 [14:02] <mib_ts2cz4> Anyway, thanks for the answer
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#1722 [14:02] <thereddeh> yay for leavedecay
#1723 [14:02] <thereddeh> less firehazard + u get the seedythings
#1724 [14:02] <ionface> he said "before the 20th you're golden" in one place, and "after the 20th you're screwed" in another
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#1726 [14:03] <Snowey111> wow. ts2cz4 shouldn't play videogames if he can't spare 10€ poor bastard.
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#1728 [14:03] <eXti> hi all
#1729 [14:03] <aetherian> ...
#1730 [14:03] <thereddeh> man i was hoping there woul be a creativemode in beta
#1731 [14:03] <aetherian> snow, don't troll behind epoples backs
#1732 [14:04] <Snowey111> :P well he left the second he made his statement
#1733 [14:04] <jimkolp2> There is a seperate Creative Beta I guess
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#1735 [14:04] <Snowey111> you can't really blame me :P
#1736 [14:04] <thereddeh> there is?
#1737 [14:04] <eXti> just one question: why does the multiplayer dont work?
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#1739 [14:05] <Snowey111> What it's saying?
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#1741 [14:05] <eXti> i just heard that the servers dont work
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#1744 [14:05] <jDodson99> i heard that SMP is still in alpha
#1745 [14:06] <Zauru> I'm getting:
#1746 [14:06] <Zauru> Connection timed out:connect
#1747 [14:06] <eXti> me too
#1748 [14:06] <jDodson99> screenyplox?
#1749 [14:06] <jimkolp2> I get outdated server
#1750 [14:06] <Zauru> I had Outdated server earlier
#1751 [14:06] <Zauru> After about half an hour, it changed to "Connection timed out:connect"
#1752 [14:06] <Snowey111> outdates server is clearly what it states. try another one.
#1753 [14:06] <Zauru> Snowey
#1754 [14:06] <James> Hey guys, im getting: Connection Lost Internal exception: java.io.EOFException when I join any server, any ideas?
#1755 [14:07] <Zauru> The question is how to update the server so it does not remain out of date
#1756 [14:07] <Zauru> James
#1757 [14:07] <eXti> i think they are outdates because of the beta, i think there are no working server at the moment
#1758 [14:07] <ionface> James, perhaps it's reading a file which is too short
#1759 [14:07] <Zauru> There are a lot of issues with multiplayer at the moment
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#1761 [14:07] <James> Ok thanks for the help anyway. :)
#1762 [14:07] <ionface> James, so re-download it, it probably got truncated
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#1764 [14:08] <Elandro> java platform se binary dont works? Anny one can help me
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#1767 [14:08] <lemon-rev> should point people to the twitter page and make em read it
#1768 [14:08] <eXti> i heard that we need a new multiplayer.exe
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#1770 [14:08] <Sebz4n> My friends and I have a server, but we keep DCing? Why?
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#1773 [14:09] <PandaBear> Is the error java.io.EOFExcpetion?
#1774 [14:09] <PandaBear> *Exception
#1775 [14:09] <eXti> the servers cant work...
#1776 [14:09] <Sebz4n> Yes Pandabear
#1777 [14:09] <PandaBear> Yep that's currently a glitch
#1778 [14:10] <PandaBear> it's happening to everyone
#1779 [14:10] <Sebz4n> So, can't play online?
#1780 [14:10] <Mikau> This is why I didn't update my server, and stopped my client from updating.
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#1782 [14:11] <eXti> which things are new in the beta?
#1783 [14:11] <jDodson99> You can throw eggs.
#1784 [14:11] <jDodson99> Hells yeah.
#1785 [14:11] <lemon-rev> but it dont hurt zombies
#1786 [14:11] <lemon-rev> lol
#1787 [14:11] <ionface> heheh, there's nothing more that I wanna do than go download the new one and debug it
#1788 [14:12] <ionface> but I gotta work :/
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#1790 [14:12] <Skoshuke> The sign that a game has gone into beta: Throw-able eggs.
#1791 [14:12] <eXti> i just want to play online with my friends
#1792 [14:12] <ionface> eXti, cake
#1793 [14:12] <jDodson99> Skoshuke, sigging that.
#1794 [14:13] <Skoshuke> Awesome.
#1795 [14:13] <Skoshuke> Two epic quotes in one day, I'm on a roll.
#1796 [14:13] <Snowey111> ionface i deleted everything except for my saves, those i moved away from .minecraft. Tried to update again, didn't work. So what now?
#1797 [14:13] <ionface> Snowey111, what's the error?
#1798 [14:13] <Urban> is the alpha client/server available anywhere so we can just use them for now?
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#1800 [14:14] <Snowey111> giving you a screenshot. sec
#1801 [14:14] <eXti> the servers just dont work ...
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#1805 [14:14] <eXti> i dont like beta :P
#1806 [14:14] <ionface> Snowey111, you got a new one from here? http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1807 [14:14] <jDodson99> I can't play it >.>
#1808 [14:14] <eXti> why?
#1809 [14:15] <jDodson99> Wait... Skoshuke, you said TWO quotes - WHat was the other?
#1810 [14:15] <Snowey111> Can try.
#1811 [14:15] <jDodson99> Mac launch bug.
#1812 [14:15] <eXti> oh
#1813 [14:15] <eXti> but alone is minecraft boring^^
#1814 [14:15] <Skoshuke> jDodson99: I'm afraid I can't remember it off of the top of my head, but it was a text to speech translation that turned out hilariously.
#1815 [14:16] <jDodson99> trollolololol.
#1816 [14:16] <Snowey111> ionface : http://i51.tinypic.com/r7w2nd.png
#1817 [14:16] <eXti> never seen this
#1818 [14:16] <jDodson99> ONOEZ, teh minecraft haz a fatality D:
#1819 [14:16] <jDodson99> FINISH HIM!
#1820 [14:16] <jDodson99> xD
#1821 [14:16] <Snowey111> :(((
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#1823 [14:17] <jimkolp2> Is ClanFoge hMod only?
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#1825 [14:17] <Sepals> hello
#1826 [14:17] <eXti> i think its no use in waiting here for a wonder :D
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#1828 [14:17] <thereddeh> whoops using that hd texturefixthing reverted it back to alpha
#1829 [14:18] <Snowey111> ion any ideas? Or can you give me the bin and resource folders. That has fixed the issue every time.
#1830 [14:18] <jimkolp2> is clanfoge hMod only?
#1831 [14:18] <Sepals> s
#1832 [14:18] <Kealper> probably, but if it was not, it would need updating anyways
#1833 [14:18] <ionface> Snowey111, you got a new one from here? http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
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#1835 [14:18] <jimkolp2> D: It is.
#1836 [14:18] <Ipooted> Alright...
#1837 [14:19] <Snowey111> yes i did :P
#1838 [14:19] <Ipooted> My texture pack is messed up.
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#1840 [14:19] <aetherian> haha
#1841 [14:19] <aetherian> what else is new
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#1843 [14:19] <jimkolp2> Snowey111: I will work on the MacOSX launch bug tomorrow!
#1844 [14:19] <Ipooted> For some reason, my minecraft is running on alpha v1.2.6
#1845 [14:20] <Ipooted> Wtf?
#1846 [14:20] <aetherian> redownload?
#1847 [14:20] <Snowey111> But. im running windows.
#1848 [14:20] <Kealper> there is so many people in here asking for help...i dun wanna be of service to this many people >.>
#1849 [14:20] <ionface> Snowey111, try the java client
#1850 [14:20] <jimkolp2> From Notch's twitter.
#1851 [14:20] <Ipooted> I reloaded it and it didn't change
#1852 [14:20] <Snowey111> ok
#1853 [14:20] <Ipooted> Maybe?
#1854 [14:20] <Kealper> it'll probably be like this all day :S
#1855 [14:20] <aetherian> no kidding, kel
#1856 [14:20] <Ipooted> Redownloading could help...
#1857 [14:20] <aetherian> everyone
#1858 [14:20] <Snowey111> but as i said i have already tried all of this. i doubt it will work this patch
#1859 [14:20] <aetherian> delete your .minecraft file, and redownload, and run
#1860 [14:20] <aetherian> remember to back up saves
#1861 [14:21] <aetherian> maybe that'll work
#1862 [14:21] <Snowey111> I just did that.
#1863 [14:21] <leaper> when i updated my MC with mods (the elevator mod and minecart mania) it crashes please help...
#1864 [14:21] <jimkolp2> Hmm................................................. I had idea!
#1865 [14:21] <Ipooted> It might have something to do with my texture packs
#1866 [14:21] <lemon-rev> kealper you should do a self help for today and like send it to anyone that is asking for help today just to ease your pain
#1867 [14:21] <Ipooted> I patched with MCPATCHER
#1868 [14:21] <Ipooted> Just a minute ago
#1869 [14:21] <Snowey111> MC patcher? LINK ME
#1870 [14:21] <Kealper> lol
#1871 [14:21] <jimkolp2> We all lok for My N. Craft
#1872 [14:21] <Ipooted> Aight.
#1873 [14:21] <Snowey111> :)
#1874 [14:21] <Kealper> i'm setting up an motd module for AuBot right now
#1875 [14:21] <Snowey111> think this might fix it.
#1876 [14:21] <Ipooted> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=46173
#1877 [14:21] <aetherian> aaahhhhhhhh
#1878 [14:21] <Snowey111> everything except patching works so.
#1879 [14:21] <Ipooted> I'm using Linux
#1880 [14:22] <Ipooted> Painterlypack
#1881 [14:22] <jimkolp2> We should all play My. N. craft
#1882 [14:22] <aetherian> [*toomanyquestions*]
#1883 [14:22] <jimkolp2> It works, never updates, and is FUN!
#1884 [14:22] <aetherian> everyone! just play classic!
#1885 [14:22] <jimkolp2> [*TIRED OF SPAWM*]
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#1887 [14:23] <aetherian> HEEEYYY, it's the priest
#1888 [14:23] <Priest> Heyyy o.o;
#1889 [14:23] <Snowey111> hmm
#1890 [14:23] <aetherian> preach it man
#1891 [14:23] <jimkolp2> Preist, tell our God, Notch, to fix Minecraft.
#1892 [14:23] <Ipooted> Nope.
#1893 [14:23] <Priest> So, Can I post an error and can yall tell me if you know whats up? :D
#1894 [14:24] <Ipooted> I redownloaded. Nothing changed
#1895 [14:24] <Priest> Or at least if its a general error people be gettin.
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#1897 [14:24] <aetherian> Ipooted:
#1898 [14:24] <Snowey111> Ipooted that doesn't seem to be for patching minecraft rather than installing mods.
#1899 [14:24] <aetherian> did you first delete the .minecraft folde?
#1900 [14:24] <Ipooted> It was for my texture of water
#1901 [14:24] <Snowey111> ah k
#1902 [14:24] <Ipooted> Deleting .minecraft would delete my levels, aetherian
#1903 [14:24] <aetherian> ...
#1904 [14:24] <aetherian> duh
#1905 [14:25] <Ipooted> doh
#1906 [14:25] <aetherian> back them up, silly
#1907 [14:25] <jimkolp2> Move your levels?
#1908 [14:25] <Snowey111> guess i still need those bin and resource folders ionface.
#1909 [14:25] <jimkolp2> Duh!
#1910 [14:25] <Ipooted> Guh
#1911 [14:25] <Ipooted> brb
#1912 [14:25] <jimkolp2> All that updates it the bin folder.
#1913 [14:25] <jDodson99> *prays* Notch, please fix the OSX login bug today. In Minecraft I pray, amen. xD
#1914 [14:25] <Priest> 2010-12-20 13:14:38 [INFO] <NameEdited> lost connection: disconnect.overflow
#1915 [14:26] <Priest> Been getting that on 100% of the connections.
#1916 [14:26] <jimkolp2> *Prays* Notch, please fix the servers, Amen!
#1917 [14:26] <jimkolp2> *Pays* hMod, make your mod work agian, Amen!
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#1920 [14:27] <Snowey111> Can someone send me those folders already? :( I have been waiting for ages.
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#1922 [14:27] <Ipooted> Ok. I just dragged my painterly and my world saves from my .minecraft to my desktop...
#1923 [14:27] <Ipooted> Wait, one minute
#1924 [14:27] <Snowey111> :)
#1925 [14:28] <Snowey111> don't send the lastsave file
#1926 [14:28] <jimkolp2> All you need to dois delete the bin folder.
#1927 [14:28] <KeeSe> any new server software for beta?
#1928 [14:28] <Snowey111> don't tempt me :P
#1929 [14:28] <Ipooted> ...I hope this is safe.....
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#1931 [14:28] <Snowey111> it is.
#1932 [14:28] <Snowey111> if you don't send that folder.
#1933 [14:28] <Snowey111> *file
#1934 [14:28] <ionface> jimkolp2, Snowey111 said he did that
#1935 [14:28] <Ipooted> DELETE THE STUPID MCPATCHER
#1936 [14:28] <jimkolp2> KeeSe: I am with you there!
#1937 [14:29] * Kealper compiles module
#1937 [14:29] <jimkolp2> It is 8PM in Sweden. D:
#1938 [14:29] <Ipooted> How do you delete it?
#1939 [14:29] <Ipooted> -_-
#1940 [14:29] <Snowey111> ahem. 8:30PM
#1941 [14:29] <Kealper> !load mod_motd
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#1945 [14:29] <Snowey111> shift+delete
#1946 [14:29] <jimkolp2> Almost 9 PM Ahem.
#1947 [14:29] <Snowey111> it's in the .minecraft folder
#1948 [14:30] <Kealper> that module failed so hard
#1949 [14:30] <Snowey111> it only removes your login from the login screen
#1950 [14:30] <jimkolp2> No, snowey is right
#1951 [14:30] <Ipooted> I can't reach the .minecraft folder it's self because it starts with .
#1952 [14:30] <Ipooted> doh
#1953 [14:30] <Snowey111> winkey+r
#1954 [14:30] <Snowey111> %appdata%
#1955 [14:30] <Snowey111> then click the .minecraft folder
#1956 [14:30] <Snowey111> winkey=windows key btw
#1957 [14:30] <Snowey111> i don't have a special "press here to win" button.
#1958 [14:31] <jDodson99> winkey = winkie/winky xD
#1959 [14:31] <Snowey111> haaha
#1960 [14:31] <jDodson99> DANG YOU SNOWEY
#1961 [14:31] <jDodson99> I just lost The Game.
#1962 [14:31] <Kealper> !reload mod_motd
#1963 [14:31] <Snowey111> now you must explain the rules to everyone
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#1966 [14:31] <Kealper> woot
#1967 [14:32] <jDodson99> Everyone in the world is playing The Game. If you think about The Game, you lose The Game. You cannot win The Game.
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#1969 [14:32] <aetherian> I lost the game
#1970 [14:32] <aetherian> dammirt
#1971 [14:32] <jDodson99> If you lose The Game, you must announce it to at least one person.
#1972 [14:32] <jDodson99> (Or the whole IRC)
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#1974 [14:33] <Snowey111> Gratz dodson, successful loser
#1975 [14:33] <KeeSe> well damn it, is there any new server software for beta? trying to play LAN here
#1976 [14:33] <Kealper> according to Notch, he has beaten the game about 3 years ago
#1977 [14:33] <aetherian> :3
#1978 [14:33] <jDodson99> Oh yeah!
#1979 [14:33] <jDodson99> One more rule
#1980 [14:33] <Snowey111> Why did that text become red? :)
#1981 [14:33] <Kealper> you're going to have like 10k people wanting to stab you in the face for that lol
#1982 [14:33] <aetherian> skill, snow
#1983 [14:33] <aetherian> ikr
#1984 [14:33] <jDodson99> When you lose The Game, you have a 30 minute grace period to forget the game, in which you cannot lose, so you must make others lose as well.
#1985 [14:34] <mistenkt> god damnit the bug where u get stuck in teh ground if u destroy ur minecart is back
#1986 [14:34] <Ipooted> BWAH.
#1987 [14:34] <jDodson99> 12*The Game.* (ownage)
#1988 [14:34] <Snowey111> ipooted?
#1989 [14:34] <mistenkt> fuckin killed me and made me lose all mah shit
#1990 [14:34] <aetherian> rawfl
#1991 [14:34] <Ipooted> I'm freaking scared to do this lol
#1992 [14:34] <aetherian> to do what?
#1993 [14:34] <Ipooted> I think I'm going to loose my levels
#1994 [14:34] <aetherian> ...
#1995 [14:34] <Ipooted> -_-
#1996 [14:34] <Snowey111> what?
#1997 [14:34] <Snowey111> why would you?
#1998 [14:34] <Ipooted> derp
#1999 [14:34] <aetherian> aahhhhhh
#2000 [14:35] <Snowey111> and what levels? Am i missing something? :D
#2001 [14:35] <aetherian> he's going to... uh... set loose his levels?
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#2004 [14:35] * aetherian shrugs
#2004 [14:35] <frogaincia> hi guys
#2005 [14:35] <Ipooted> Actually, I might just start a new set of worlds if I lose them
#2006 [14:35] <Kealper> aetherian: type /cycle
#2007 [14:35] <Ipooted> Oh, I meant 'lose'
#2008 [14:35] <Karlicious> is there a tutorial around on how to update your server? :p
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#2011 [14:36] <frogaincia> can you help me get my server running for beta?
#2012 [14:36] <aetherian> what?
#2013 [14:36] <Snowey111> Ipooted you wont lose your saves if you just zip the bin and resource folder.
#2014 [14:36] <Snowey111> that's impossible
#2015 [14:36] <aetherian> what did that do, kealper
#2016 [14:36] <KeeSe> also need help getting beta server running!
#2017 [14:36] <Kealper> aetherian: made you part and join the channel
#2018 [14:36] <DFC> goddammit not the game
#2019 [14:36] <aetherian> yeah, but why?
#2020 [14:36] <frogaincia> I forwarded the port, set the ip in the properties file, but noone can join
#2021 [14:36] <Orion> this rollout is entirely fubar
#2022 [14:36] <Snowey111> unless your zip software suddently tries to write your whole disk and then it crashes.
#2023 [14:36] <aetherian> why did you want me to do that
#2024 [14:36] <jDodson99> brb
#2025 [14:36] <Kealper> to see if you noticed AuBot's motd :S
#2026 [14:36] <aetherian> ?
#2027 [14:36] <Kealper> which i will take as a no lol
#2028 [14:36] <frogaincia> btw, I just lost the game
#2029 [14:37] <aetherian> oh
#2030 [14:37] <aetherian> I saw that
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#2032 [14:37] <aetherian> -AuBot- Welcome to #MinecraftHelp! Please ask your question, and someone will try to answer it and help you as soon as they can! PLEASE DO NOT ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY SORT OF MODS FOR THE SERVER OR THE CLIENT! ANY QUESTION PRETAINING TO MODS WILL BE IGNORED!
#2033 [14:37] <aetherian> that?
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#2035 [14:37] <Kealper> indeed
#2036 [14:37] <aetherian> I just ignored it, that's all
#2037 [14:37] <Djbberko> Beta!!
#2038 [14:37] * Kealper sighs
#2038 [14:37] <Kealper> lol
#2039 [14:37] <frogaincia> lol
#2040 [14:37] <aetherian> it looked like the topic >.>
#2041 [14:37] <aetherian> I don't care about no fething topic
#2042 [14:37] * Kealper makes it bold and red
#2042 [14:37] <frogaincia> no srsly guys, any updates on running server for a beta client?
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#2044 [14:38] <aetherian> WE DON'T NEED TO FREAKING TOPICS
#2045 [14:38] <aetherian> *NO
#2046 [14:38] <Ipooted> Uh uh uh uh. What? It won't let me move my saves to anywhere. It says one already exsists... Wha?
#2047 [14:38] <Kealper> stinkin'*
#2048 [14:38] <aetherian> aahhhhh
#2049 [14:38] <jDodson99> Lets hope this ff update makes it stop crashing...
#2050 [14:38] <aetherian> did you change it yet?
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#2052 [14:38] <Snowey111> Ipooted can i remotely control your PC for a sec?
#2053 [14:38] <Ipooted> No.
#2054 [14:38] <Snowey111> You can abort it any second.
#2055 [14:38] <aetherian> lol snowey
#2056 [14:38] <Snowey111> aww
#2057 [14:38] <jDodson99> rofl
#2058 [14:38] <Snowey111> i need those files!!
#2059 [14:38] <frogaincia> to what?
#2060 [14:38] <Snowey111> Can't play :(((
#2061 [14:38] <Ipooted> erm
#2062 [14:38] <AndChat|> is there a changelog
#2063 [14:39] <aetherian> he wants to steal his por- I mean, help him.
#2064 [14:39] <frogaincia> can't find a beta server exe
#2065 [14:39] <jDodson99> xD
#2066 [14:39] <frogaincia> so alpha should work in theory
#2067 [14:39] <Ipooted> If there was a way to post them on the IRC -_-
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#2069 [14:39] <Snowey111> aetherian actually Ipooted would be helping me.
#2070 [14:39] <lemon-rev> hows it possible to find a small cave with 2 at least 3 zombies in it before attacking, going away comming back and zombies completly disappeard
#2071 [14:39] <frogaincia> bugs?
#2072 [14:39] <Snowey111> Ipooted would you let me if i gave you some closed betakeys for games?
#2073 [14:39] <frogaincia> they ate them
#2074 [14:39] <lemon-rev> maybe
#2075 [14:39] <AndChat|> The cows defeated them!
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#2079 [14:39] <lemon-rev> lol its underground
#2080 [14:39] <lemon-rev> theres no cows
#2081 [14:39] <lemon-rev> here
#2082 [14:40] <aetherian> wait what
#2083 [14:40] <AndChat|> Oh they came
#2084 [14:40] <aetherian> there is no cows?
#2085 [14:40] <AndChat|> And left
#2086 [14:40] <aetherian> rofl
#2087 [14:40] <DFC> lol
#2088 [14:40] <frogaincia> would still love some help on running a beta server guys
#2089 [14:40] <lemon-rev> not underground
#2090 [14:40] <DFC> they most probably fried
#2091 [14:40] <jDodson99> "I’m also hoping to be able to squeeze in some fun for xmas.. Perhaps a new mob?"
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#2093 [14:40] <frogaincia> I wanna have it up by tommorrow xD
#2094 [14:40] <jDodson99> Yay, we get a santa mob on Christmas.
#2095 [14:40] <jDodson99> xD
#2096 [14:40] <aetherian> :D
#2097 [14:40] <Plissken> Hey, I'm having trouble with the beta update. I replaced my minecraft-server.jar in my server folder on my linux server with the beta one downloaded from minecraft.net, and now the server doesn't detect my world folder, and won't use SMP it's always classic.
#2098 [14:40] <frogaincia> awesome
#2099 [14:40] <aetherian> santa is the endgame boss of minecraft
#2100 [14:41] <jDodson99> aetherian: No, Notch is.
#2101 [14:41] <DFC> raid to santa's dungeon
#2102 [14:41] <jDodson99> xD
#2103 [14:41] <lemon-rev> lol sweet, just have to throw eggs at him
#2104 [14:41] <lemon-rev> lol
#2105 [14:41] <aetherian> haaha
#2106 [14:41] <DFC> eggs instantly make exploding dicks explode
#2107 [14:41] <Ipooted> A folder named "World1" already exists. Do you want to merge the source folder? The source folder already exists in "Desktop". Merging will ask for confirmation before replacing any files in the folder that conflict with the files being moved.
#2108 [14:41] <aetherian> next halloween, I am so egging peoples houses.
#2109 [14:41] <DFC> if you get what i mean
#2110 [14:41] <jDodson99> Or maybe Notch will implement alcohol and we can make egg nog to lure santa into a TARP.
#2111 [14:41] <jDodson99> xD
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#2114 [14:41] <Alkenix> hi
#2115 [14:41] <Ipooted> What?
#2116 [14:41] <aetherian> hi
#2117 [14:41] <Snowey111> Ipooted please. PM now
#2118 [14:41] <Alkenix> can someone help me?
#2119 [14:41] <jDodson99> Ho ho ho, IT'S A TAAAARP.
#2120 [14:41] <aetherian> no
#2121 [14:41] <DFC> which kind of trap
#2122 [14:41] <frogaincia> it's a TRAP
#2123 [14:42] <Ipooted> oh
#2124 [14:42] <Alkenix> my friend wanne join on my beta server..
#2125 [14:42] <L551> Can anyone help? Since the update, anyone who connects to my server disconnects
#2126 [14:42] <Alkenix> but he gets disconnected every time he tryes Oo
#2127 [14:42] <Plissken> Can you guys just dick around in a general channel? This is a support channel.
#2128 [14:42] <frogaincia> asme here
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#2130 [14:42] <aetherian> now now, plis
#2131 [14:42] <Alkenix> yes, so support us Oo
#2132 [14:42] <frogaincia> plz do
#2133 [14:42] <Plissken> Hey, I'm having trouble with the beta update. I replaced my minecraft-server.jar in my server folder on my linux server with the beta one downloaded from minecraft.net, and now the server doesn't detect my world folder, and won't use SMP it's always classic.
#2134 [14:43] <aetherian> hey kealper, I think this channel should ban beta related questions.
#2135 [14:43] <aetherian> until 1+ days from now
#2136 [14:43] <Kealper> Plissken: because you probably downloaded the classic server
#2137 [14:43] <frogaincia> and why is that? because ppl actually need help with that?
#2138 [14:44] <frogaincia> then where can I find the beta server
#2139 [14:44] <Kealper> yes, absolutely...because we hate helping people
#2140 [14:44] <frogaincia> lol
#2141 [14:44] <Kealper> 1 sec
#2142 [14:44] <frogaincia> np
#2143 [14:44] <Plissken> where is the SMP download then, Kealper?
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#2145 [14:44] <DFC> following gameplay advice from the wiki is the worst idea i've hade
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#2149 [14:45] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1292874296751
#2150 [14:45] <Karlicious> isn't that the jar everyone downloads? :p
#2151 [14:45] <frogaincia> it is, but for me it probably didn't quite catch up xD
#2152 [14:45] <Karlicious> do I only need to replace minecraft_server.jar even if I've got hey0 for example? :3
#2153 [14:45] <Kealper> hey0 does not work for the latest server software yet
#2154 [14:46] <Alkenix> Disconnect.overflow ... wtf is that?
#2155 [14:46] <Kealper> a bug
#2156 [14:46] <frogaincia> so we need to run the .jar?
#2157 [14:46] <Karlicious> oh
#2158 [14:46] <Alkenix> how to fix? o.o
#2159 [14:46] <jDodson99> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWmiO4SavZI ;D
#2160 [14:46] <Kealper> no frogaincia but Plissken was asking about a .jar
#2161 [14:46] <frogaincia> oowww, ok
#2162 [14:46] <Kealper> so i gave him the link to the jar one
#2163 [14:46] <frogaincia> no prob
#2164 [14:46] <Karlicious> Kealper, assuming hey0 did work, would I only need to replace minecraft_server.jar ?
#2165 [14:46] <Plissken> Testing that now Kealper, thank you for the help
#2166 [14:47] <Kealper> Karlicious: assuming hey0 did work, you'd just delete minecraft_server.jar and start hmod normally, as it would download the latest server for you
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#2168 [14:47] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft_Server.exe?v=1292874296751 is the server exe
#2169 [14:47] <Karlicious> interesting :3
#2170 [14:47] <Kealper> for anyone wondering
#2171 [14:47] <frogaincia> thank you, hope it works this time
#2172 [14:47] <Kealper> now...the shower calls...so..the doctor is out
#2173 [14:48] <Ixlair> I've got an issue with minecraft. Every time I add a texture pack, it freezes and won't load when I try to restart
#2174 [14:48] <frogaincia> people van't seem to connect
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#2177 [14:48] <Alkenix> The Server isn't working -.-
#2178 [14:48] <Alkenix> u can't connect..Oo
#2179 [14:49] <frogaincia> server also keeps complaining that it's overloaded, while nothing is being done yet
#2180 [14:49] <frogaincia> still can't connect to my own server though
#2181 [14:50] <Alkenix> other cannot connect to my server
#2182 [14:50] <frogaincia> anyhting I need to change? except to forward a port?
#2183 [14:50] <frogaincia> I can;t even connect to my own xD
#2184 [14:51] <Alkenix> just put in the .lua your ip = 127.0.0.1
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#2187 [14:51] <Alkenix> then connect via multiplayer to 127.0.0.1
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#2189 [14:52] <L551> Old maps are bugged in SMP from the update
#2190 [14:52] <L551> Just make a new map for now I guess
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#2192 [14:54] <frogaincia> yeah, but I want my friends to be able to join too
#2193 [14:54] <Kiko> Yo
#2194 [14:54] <Plissken> that worked Kealper!
#2195 [14:54] <frogaincia> so a local IP connect won't help me
#2196 [14:54] <Plissken> Thank you :)
#2197 [14:54] <Kiko> This is the help channel right?
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#2199 [14:54] <frogaincia> yeah, it is
#2200 [14:54] <Kiko> thanks
#2201 [14:55] <Kiko> Anyone have a clue about the *username*lost connection: disconnect.overflow
#2202 [14:55] <Kiko> In the server
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#2205 [14:55] <jimkolp2> What is the new rare thing?
#2206 [14:55] <L551> The disconnect.overflow is a bug with the beta update. dunno why it does it, just make a new map for now
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#2208 [14:56] <Snowey111> GreyVulpine u there?
#2209 [14:56] <Kiko> So If I make a new map it will work?
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#2211 [14:56] <L551> Works for me.
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#2213 [14:56] <mib_b81x76> im getting a connection lost error
#2214 [14:56] <L551> But with the Serverside inventory, it duplicates items, yet they all disappear at the same rate
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#2217 [14:57] <mib_b81x76> internal exception: java.io.Eofexception
#2218 [14:58] <mib_b81x76> i dont know whats wrong
#2219 [14:58] <frogaincia> still no clue on why people can't connect to my server from an external ip guys, can anyone help?
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#2221 [14:58] <L551> frogaincia: Forward the server port needed
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#2223 [14:59] <Kiko> Caliga: Internal exception: java.io.EOFException
#2224 [14:59] <L551> mib_b81x76: The server needs to make a new map.
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#2227 [14:59] <Kiko> We are using hamachi
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#2229 [15:00] <KeeSe> getting the java.io errors all the time
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#2231 [15:00] <KeeSe> the other guy (hosting the server) does not get them
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#2233 [15:00] <mudpit> hellooo?
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#2235 [15:00] <mudpit> I need help
#2236 [15:00] <Toxip> my server doesnt work
#2237 [15:00] <mudpit> I run a smp server
#2238 [15:00] <mudpit> yeah neither does mine!
#2239 [15:00] <mudpit> says ite outdated
#2240 [15:00] <mudpit> and i got all the packets
#2241 [15:00] <mudpit> now what?
#2242 [15:00] <Toxip> updated the client but not server?
#2243 [15:01] <mudpit> how do i update server?
#2244 [15:01] <mudpit> I never needed to?
#2245 [15:01] <Toxip> that's what I want to know
#2246 [15:01] <Kiko> download it from the site
#2247 [15:01] <mudpit> oh ok
#2248 [15:01] <Toxip> we've gone to beta
#2249 [15:01] <mudpit> i did
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#2251 [15:01] <mudpit> yeah.,.. with beta
#2252 [15:01] <mudpit> the ALPHA smp doesn't work
#2253 [15:01] <Toxip> I didn't find a new server program, kiko
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#2255 [15:02] <mudpit> Anyone know what to do...?
#2256 [15:02] <L551> Just download the new server .exe
#2257 [15:02] <mudpit> this is a help chat yea?
#2258 [15:02] <mudpit> there is no new server .exe
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#2262 [15:02] <frogaincia> indeed
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#2264 [15:03] <Toxip> does the old world from alpha work in beta as well?
#2265 [15:03] <mudpit> nope
#2266 [15:03] <L551> Toxip: In SMP, no.
#2267 [15:03] <frogaincia> I've redowned it several times, but doesn't work
#2268 [15:03] <mudpit> says outdated when anyone tries to connect ot my server
#2269 [15:03] <Rezzing> Hi all! Can someone point me to get the last alpha release? My updater grabbed the latest beta but it doesn't work for me. It's stuttering.
#2270 [15:03] <frogaincia> mine just has a server time-out
#2271 [15:03] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft_Server.exe?v=1292874296751
#2272 [15:03] <Kealper> stop using automatic updaters then
#2273 [15:04] <frogaincia> I allready have that, But external IP's can't connect to it
#2274 [15:04] <Kiko> Can someone explain how they can relase BETA when the serves cleraly are bugged worse than in alpha?
#2275 [15:04] <Kealper> !reload mod_motd
#2276 [15:04] <frogaincia> any idea why?
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#2278 [15:04] <Kealper> frogaincia: you didn't forward ports then?
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#2282 [15:04] <frogaincia> I did
#2283 [15:04] <Rezzing> @Kealper, i had my lesson now =)
#2284 [15:04] <frogaincia> 25565 is forwarded
#2285 [15:04] <mudpit> ports are forwardede, everything is installed again
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#2287 [15:04] <Kealper> that motd stands out much better
#2288 [15:05] <mudpit> nothing fuckin works:/
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#2290 [15:05] <Kealper> then use this http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1292874296751
#2291 [15:05] <frogaincia> and any idea wht my server screen keeps blurting out that he can't keep up? nothings even running yet, and I have 4 gigs of memory and a quad-core in here
#2292 [15:05] <Kealper> that i know for a fact works
#2293 [15:05] <mudpit> I run my serv off of hey0
#2294 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - That's normal
#2295 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Everybody gets it
#2296 [15:05] <Kealper> frogaincia: bad code, stupid feature
#2297 [15:05] <frogaincia> ok
#2298 [15:05] <mudpit> what do i do then?
#2299 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Wait for hey0 to update
#2300 [15:06] <Kealper> mudpit: stop using hey0
#2301 [15:06] <frogaincia> the .jar is not for me right?
#2302 [15:06] <mudpit> say nah
#2303 [15:06] <Kiko> So
#2304 [15:06] <mudpit> say hey0mod is the best out there
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#2306 [15:06] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: /hop the channel
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#2309 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Gah
#2310 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Hi AuBot
#2311 [15:06] <Kealper> sehr gut?
#2312 [15:06] <Kiko> To clarify, I cants use the minecraft BETA server.exe
#2313 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Could you clarify further? Why not?
#2314 [15:06] <Ipooted> doh
#2315 [15:07] <Kiko> I can play it
#2316 [15:07] <Snowey111> GREY!!
#2317 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Oh dear god no
#2318 [15:07] <Kiko> but my frend lasts about 6 seconds then it kicks him out
#2319 [15:07] <Snowey111> Need my bin and resource folder! :D
#2320 [15:07] <Kealper> that's just a quick and dirty motd module that i whipped up in like 5 sec, but it should serve it's purpose for today
#2321 [15:07] <Ipooted> :\
#2322 [15:07] <Ipooted> :/
#2323 [15:07] <Kiko> We are using hamatchi and ity always USED to work
#2324 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> I'm trying to stay away from minecraft updating right now
#2325 [15:07] <Kealper> same here
#2326 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> I don't want to update!
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#2328 [15:07] <Snowey111> uh..
#2329 [15:07] <Ipooted> OH
#2330 [15:07] <Snowey111> Well now you have to
#2331 [15:07] <Snowey111> sorry
#2332 [15:07] <Snowey111> :D
#2333 [15:07] <Kealper> my server is still running alpha lol
#2334 [15:07] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2334 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Nuuuuu!
#2335 [15:07] <Ipooted> I'm going back to the #minecraft channel
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#2337 [15:07] <Ipooted> Byes
#2338 [15:08] * Snowey111 does seriousface
#2338 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> But.. but
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#2340 [15:08] <Kiko> so I'm right to assume that nobody has got BETA servers to work
#2341 [15:08] <Snowey111> No buts young mister!
#2342 [15:08] <mudpit> nope:/
#2343 [15:08] <mudpit> one sec
#2344 [15:08] <mudpit> trying this out now and i'll tell you
#2345 [15:09] <Kealper> alrighty....bathroom is empty now....shower time
#2346 [15:09] <Rezzing> please, somebody know where to get the last alpha release of the game (not server)?
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#2349 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> g'luck with that
#2350 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> It autoupdates
#2351 [15:09] <Kiko> pirate bay
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#2353 [15:09] <mudpit> wow
#2354 [15:09] <mudpit> yeah no
#2355 [15:09] <mudpit> the old version doesn't work now
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#2357 [15:10] <Snowey111> is it illegal to download a piratecopy of a game you own anyway?
#2358 [15:10] <jDodson99> No it is not.
#2359 [15:10] <Kiko> no
#2360 [15:10] <Snowey111> hmm
#2361 [15:10] <Alynna> i am getting "Client sent unknow packet, kicked" on the server side, and as expected, "Connection reset" on the client side. Does anyone know if theres a fix for this yet?
#2362 [15:10] <jDodson99> As long as you've bought the game legit, you can download a pirated copy.
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#2365 [15:11] <Snowey111> ok grey since notch told us he's gonna patch tomorrow again you don't have to patch my game, for now..
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#2367 [15:11] <aetherian> back
#2368 [15:11] * GreyVulpine phews
#2368 [15:11] <Snowey111> Count yourself lucky.
#2369 [15:11] <GreyMaria> Oi.
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#2372 [15:11] <jDodson99> So if you bought OoT some 12 years ago and you lost it, you can pirate it with an emulator (+HAX) and it's still legal.
#2373 [15:11] <GreyMaria> jDodson99: Nope
#2374 [15:11] <GreyMaria> It's never legal to downlaad ROMs
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#2376 [15:11] <GreyMaria> Now stop violating EsperNET TOS
#2377 [15:11] <Snowey111> yeah not roms.
#2378 [15:11] <jDodson99> GreyMaria, orly? Even if you bought the game?
#2379 [15:11] <GreyMaria> Yarly.
#2380 [15:11] <aetherian> it is, grey
#2381 [15:11] <GreyMaria> Nintendo really doesn't like it.
#2382 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Yes jDodson99
#2383 [15:11] <Kiko> he is wrong
#2384 [15:11] <Toxip> my friend gets a bug when he connects my server :(
#2385 [15:12] <GreyMaria> Now stop violating EsperNET TOS
#2386 [15:12] <aetherian> if you bought the game, it's legal
#2387 [15:12] <jDodson99> I heard differently...
#2388 [15:12] <GreyMaria> Toxip: He needs to update and by that I mean stop using a pirated copy
#2389 [15:12] <GreyMaria> jDodson99: All the ROM sites tell you that, but they're lying.
#2390 [15:12] <GreyMaria> Now stop violating EsperNET TOS
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#2392 [15:12] <Toxip> he has a legit version
#2393 [15:12] <aetherian> this channel is too filled with people who talk too much. I'm leaving.
#2394 [15:12] <mudpit> HELLO ALL IDIOTS HERE
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#2397 [15:12] <mudpit> THE SMP ALPHA SERVERS WILL NOT WORK
#2398 [15:12] <mudpit> AT ALL
#2399 [15:12] <mudpit> TRY ALL YOU WISH
#2400 [15:13] <GreyMaria> Guys guys guys. Question. Don't tell me to add myself to the op list because I'm not that fucking stupid. How do I use server-console commands from in-game?
#2401 [15:13] <mudpit> RE INSTALL EVERYTHING
#2402 [15:13] <mudpit> I HAVE
#2403 [15:13] <mudpit> \DOESNT HELP
#2404 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> GreyMaria - Prefix it with "/"?
#2405 [15:13] <GreyMaria> Really? I heard you needed something a bit further.
#2406 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> ...?
#2407 [15:13] <Tu13es> things like /save-all work
#2408 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> What server commands are you trying to run
#2409 [15:13] <GreyMaria> Give
#2410 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> then /give
#2411 [15:14] <GreyMaria> Alright, okay
#2412 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> player id amount
#2413 [15:14] <GreyMaria> OH
#2414 [15:14] <GreyMaria> PLAYER id amount
#2415 [15:14] <GreyMaria> haha
#2416 [15:14] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2416 [15:14] <GreyMaria> I was going id amount player like hMod does it
#2417 [15:14] <GreyMaria> derp
#2418 [15:14] <mudpit> like /give 12 64
#2419 [15:14] <mudpit> whisch is give sand 64
#2420 [15:14] <mudpit> get it?
#2421 [15:14] <GreyMaria> ...
#2422 [15:14] <mudpit> you know item ids?
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#2424 [15:14] <Kiko> none of this matters since its unplayable in multiplayer
#2425 [15:14] <Toxip> it says "internal exception: java.net.socketEXCEPTION: Software caused connection abort: recv fa"
#2426 [15:14] <mudpit> yepp
#2427 [15:14] <mudpit> yeah
#2428 [15:14] <GreyMaria> Kiko: No it's not. Stop being stupid.
#2429 [15:15] <mudpit> SMP IS DOWN EVERYONE
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#2431 [15:15] <Kiko> no
#2432 [15:15] <mudpit> yes.
#2433 [15:15] <GreyMaria> mudpit: No it's not. The servers haven't updated. Stop being stupid.
#2434 [15:15] <Kiko> Stupid is when somone pays for this
#2435 [15:15] <Kiko> makes a server
#2436 [15:15] <Kiko> and nobody can play
#2437 [15:15] <mudpit> yepp
#2438 [15:15] <mudpit> my serv is up
#2439 [15:15] <Kiko> even thoi its juts been poassed to beta
#2440 [15:15] <GreyMaria> Stop being stupid, you motherfucking idiots. SMP is not broken. NOT BROKEN.
#2441 [15:15] <mudpit> but it's "outdated"
#2442 [15:15] <mudpit> it is broken
#2443 [15:15] <GreyMaria> mudpit: The SERVER is outdated and needs to update
#2444 [15:15] <GreyMaria> Dumbass.
#2445 [15:15] <mudpit> not working = broken
#2446 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Hey now, calm down, all of you
#2447 [15:15] <jDodson99> Derp
#2448 [15:15] <mudpit> black people = broken
#2449 [15:16] <jDodson99> Mudpit, stfu.
#2450 [15:16] <GreyMaria> Hey, GreyVulpine, isn't that a bannable offense, racism?
#2451 [15:16] <mudpit> yes:D
#2452 [15:16] <frogaincia> derp = mudkieps
#2453 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> I'm about to whip out the banhammer
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#2455 [15:16] <mudpit> oh shite.
#2456 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Cool it
#2457 [15:16] <mudpit> kk
#2458 [15:16] <mudpit> just idk
#2459 [15:16] <jDodson99> I'm white and I take offense when people are racist against blacks.
#2460 [15:16] <Alkenix> i want a workaround "disconnect.overflow".
#2461 [15:16] <Toxip> GreyMaria is offensive here too...
#2462 [15:16] <Alynna> we have a local multiplayer server here.. it keep saying 'unknown packet, kicked' at the console.. Does anyone know if theres a fix for that yet?
#2463 [15:16] <mudpit> blow something up when ANYONE knows when the UPDATE for the NON broken servers comes up...
#2464 [15:16] <GreyMaria> Toxip: No, I just hate people who are too stupid to shut the fuck up and listen to someone who knows what he's talking about.
#2465 [15:16] <jDodson99> Thank you, overprotective parents, for making me wince at the smallest things xD
#2466 [15:17] <Kiko> Ok so what you are saying is, its not broken, just wont work until, When?
#2467 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Give Notch some time to work out the beta bugs.
#2468 [15:17] <mudpit> it's not broken persay
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#2470 [15:17] <mudpit> but it doesn't work
#2471 [15:17] <mudpit> get it?
#2472 [15:17] <mudpit> i don't
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#2474 [15:17] <Kiko> but it should have been TESTED before slipping to BETA
#2475 [15:17] <Kiko> Thats all I'm saying
#2476 [15:17] <mudpit> yeah.
#2477 [15:17] <mudpit> same.
#2478 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, Notch and what QA group?
#2479 [15:17] <mudpit> lol
#2480 [15:18] <mudpit> there are like 4 threads in the forums going around about this i'll go check those then get back to you guys
#2481 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, he doesn't have all 42 million different types of computer configs to test it in
#2482 [15:18] <Kiko> So its unthinkable to just try and test it
#2483 [15:18] <Kiko> Whatst he 8 mill going towards!?!
#2484 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Give him some time to get bug reports in
#2485 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> His company
#2486 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> He's not going to blow 8 million right away
#2487 [15:18] <jDodson99> Imma go watch X-Men, peace.
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#2491 [15:19] <mudpit> sigh...
#2492 [15:19] <mudpit> I just fixed the server too:(
#2493 [15:19] <mudpit> it's pretty
#2494 [15:19] <mudpit> it's like runescape
#2495 [15:19] <mudpit> i have npcs selling shit
#2496 [15:19] <lolminer> what is?
#2497 [15:19] <mudpit> and yeah banks, jails, land ownership
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#2499 [15:19] <mudpit> my server:(
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#2501 [15:19] <lolminer> minecraft server?
#2502 [15:19] <mudpit> yesh
#2503 [15:20] <Orion> my hope is this will show him why you dont do certain things in programming anymore
#2504 [15:20] <lolminer> how the hell di du do that lol
#2505 [15:20] <Ixlair> I've got an issue with minecraft. Every time I add a texture pack, it freezes and won't load and crashes when I try to restart
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#2507 [15:20] <mudpit> weird
#2508 [15:20] <mudpit> Um
#2509 [15:20] <mudpit> I like coding and such
#2510 [15:20] <mudpit> and Hey0mod
#2511 [15:20] <lyude> Can someone give me the email of notch? I can't find it and I have a bug
#2512 [15:20] <Kiko> I'm just saying, the process of alpha is to get the fundermentals done, iron out the play and get things working, then to progress to a BETA
#2513 [15:20] <mudpit> offers a wide variety of mods
#2514 [15:20] <lyude> It's a mean one >:U
#2515 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> lyude - use getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#2516 [15:20] <mudpit> My server will be the minecraft equivalent of runescape:D
#2517 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> it's the official bug tracker
#2518 [15:21] <Kiko> but how can it be progress when more fundermentals are broken? sorry, termporaly unavalible
#2519 [15:21] <lolminer> i cant even connect to my server i get a a java error afeter a second
#2520 [15:21] <lolminer> meh
#2521 [15:21] <lyude> I can
#2522 [15:21] <lyude> But it pushes my CPU to max
#2523 [15:21] <mudpit> it's awesome already npcs, banks, jails, rights, sports, capture the flag arenas, spleef arenas
#2524 [15:21] <mudpit> fun stuff:D
#2525 [15:21] <lyude> Keep in mind the entire thing is dedicated soly to minecraft
#2526 [15:21] <lolminer> what was added to the beta?
#2527 [15:21] <mudpit> umm
#2528 [15:21] <mudpit> two new block types
#2529 [15:21] <Kiko> broken swrvers
#2530 [15:21] <mudpit> lol
#2531 [15:21] <mudpit> capes?
#2532 [15:22] <mudpit> and possible new mob villages
#2533 [15:22] <lolminer> new name?!
#2534 [15:22] <mudpit> that's all we've heard of in the threads
#2535 [15:22] <mudpit> so it could be bs
#2536 [15:22] <mudpit> but ya never know
#2537 [15:22] <lolminer> mob villiges would be cool to see i guess
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#2539 [15:22] <lolminer> i fuond a zombie spawner in a cave i dug out in my server
#2540 [15:22] <lolminer> lol
#2541 [15:22] <mudpit> the threads say pigmen not zombie pigmen but pigmen villages
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#2543 [15:23] <Miclee> So pigmen villages are in!?
#2544 [15:23] <Miclee> waht is this
#2545 [15:23] <Miclee> NOBODY TOLD ME
#2546 [15:23] <lolminer> id like to see new mobs
#2547 [15:23] <mudpit> possible
#2548 [15:23] <mudpit> it's in the threads
#2549 [15:23] <Kiko> ok well thanks guys
#2550 [15:23] <mudpit> no confirmation yet though
#2551 [15:23] <mudpit> yepp
#2552 [15:23] <Kiko> I'm off
#2553 [15:23] <mudpit> bai
#2554 [15:23] <Kiko> peace
#2555 [15:23] <lolminer> what about the dragon
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#2557 [15:23] <lolminer> was that added?
#2558 [15:23] <mudpit> I hope so:D
#2559 [15:24] <mudpit> he said he would agessss ago like 2 months
#2560 [15:24] <mudpit> but i doubt it
#2561 [15:24] <mudpit> flying things lag servers and coputers and he woudlnt want any MORE lag
#2562 [15:24] <lolminer> it doesnt have to fly
#2563 [15:24] <mudpit> that was his intent
#2564 [15:24] <lolminer> i mean just have it in a cave hidden
#2565 [15:24] <lolminer> oh
#2566 [15:24] <mudpit> that'd be nice
#2567 [15:24] <mudpit> yeah it was so at night you would have to hide inside
#2568 [15:24] <mudpit> or underground
#2569 [15:25] <mudpit> no wandering on pathways with candles
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#2571 [15:25] <lolminer> i just make tunnels underground
#2572 [15:25] <lolminer> lol
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#2575 [15:26] <lolminer> java.io.EOFException
#2576 [15:26] <lolminer> thats the error i get everytime
#2577 [15:26] <lolminer> fuuuuuuuu
#2578 [15:26] <mudpit> lolminer
#2579 [15:26] <mudpit> it won't work:P
#2580 [15:27] <lolminer> wat wont work
#2581 [15:27] <mudpit> we gotta wait it out
#2582 [15:27] <mudpit> smp
#2583 [15:27] <lolminer> oh
#2584 [15:27] <lolminer> fuck
#2585 [15:27] <lolminer> gay
#2586 [15:27] <mudpit> have you not read any of this:P /\
#2587 [15:27] <lolminer> no
#2588 [15:27] <mudpit> i was screamin
#2589 [15:27] <lolminer> lol
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#2591 [15:27] <mudpit> cause my server is basically runescape now
#2592 [15:27] <lolminer> why would u want that
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#2594 [15:27] <mudpit> ncps banks, shops, quests, working, jobs, ships, etc
#2595 [15:27] <mudpit> it's awesome
#2596 [15:28] <lolminer> i like to build stuff ;x
#2597 [15:28] <mudpit> you can build
#2598 [15:28] <mudpit> i have towny mod settup
#2599 [15:28] <mudpit> towns can eventually declare war
#2600 [15:28] <mudpit> and after wards theres a button in the mayors ofice to ebuild the town
#2601 [15:28] <lolminer> u mean grief each oterh?
#2602 [15:28] <mudpit> to what it was
#2603 [15:28] <mudpit> yeppp
#2604 [15:28] <lolminer> lol
#2605 [15:28] <mudpit> my server has so much coding done to it
#2606 [15:28] <lolminer> i dont code
#2607 [15:28] <mudpit> spleed and ctf arenas
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#2609 [15:29] <mudpit> spleef*
#2610 [15:29] <lolminer> i just play the game as is
#2611 [15:29] <lolminer> lol
#2612 [15:29] <mudpit> then go play single player?
#2613 [15:29] <lolminer> i am
#2614 [15:29] <lolminer> lol
#2615 [15:29] <mudpit> oh ok?
#2616 [15:29] <mudpit> and get invedit:D
#2617 [15:29] <lolminer> but i wna play w/ my nigas
#2618 [15:29] <mudpit> so you can cheat and get shit
#2619 [15:29] <mudpit> werd... i love playing with my server
#2620 [15:29] <mudpit> i'm an architecture student
#2621 [15:30] <mudpit> so i have falling waters built
#2622 [15:30] <mudpit> and a bunch of other post modern architecture buildings
#2623 [15:30] <lyude> It seems not many other people are getting the "takes a shitload of resources" glitch I'm getting
#2624 [15:30] <mudpit> and a beautiful subway settup
#2625 [15:30] <mudpit> which glitch is this lyude?
#2626 [15:30] <mudpit> what happens?
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#2628 [15:30] <mudpit> do you lose the bottom line of your inventory and chests?
#2629 [15:30] <lyude> Here, I'll upload the image
#2630 [15:30] <lyude> You'll see
#2631 [15:31] <mudpit> kk?
#2632 [15:31] <lyude> http://bluewolf.foxxbox.us/Screenshot.png
#2633 [15:31] <lyude> The server software hogs the cpu now
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#2635 [15:31] <lyude> It did that before, but not this much
#2636 [15:31] <lyude> Items are even cloning themselves
#2637 [15:31] <mudpit> what is this i'm looking at?
#2638 [15:31] <lyude> Look at java
#2639 [15:32] <lyude> Every time someone joins it skyrockets to 99%
#2640 [15:32] <mudpit> wowwww
#2641 [15:32] <lyude> It used to only go up to 80% max
#2642 [15:32] <mudpit> how do you get people to join??
#2643 [15:32] <mudpit> I can't get smp to run?!?
#2644 [15:32] <mudpit> no one can!
#2645 [15:32] <lyude> It's a private server :U
#2646 [15:32] <lyude> People can join
#2647 [15:32] <lyude> But it's glitchy as fuck
#2648 [15:32] <mudpit> so.. is mine
#2649 [15:32] <lyude> It WAS meant to be for MFU
#2650 [15:32] <lyude> But the server can't handle it :u
#2651 [15:32] <mudpit> ?
#2652 [15:32] <lyude> MFU = Magical Frolicking Unicorns, my gaming group
#2653 [15:33] <mudpit> i seee..
#2654 [15:33] <mudpit> how'd you get smp to work with beta
#2655 [15:33] <lyude> We're pretty manly
#2656 [15:33] <mudpit> ?
#2657 [15:33] <lyude> What do you mean smp?
#2658 [15:33] <Miclee> Any pictures of these pigmen villages yet?
#2659 [15:33] <mudpit> survival multiplayer?
#2660 [15:33] <mudpit> nopeee
#2661 [15:33] <lyude> I just downloaded and installed :P
#2662 [15:33] <mudpit> when?
#2663 [15:33] <lyude> Half an hour ago
#2664 [15:33] <mudpit> i did all that:/ it wont work:(
#2665 [15:33] <lyude> What OS does your server run on
#2666 [15:33] <mudpit> windows 7
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#2668 [15:34] <mudpit> you're ubuntu? or what?
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#2670 [15:34] <lyude> Arch Linux
#2671 [15:34] <lyude> What errors does it give you?
#2672 [15:34] <mudpit> I can duel boot linux if it comes down to it...
#2673 [15:34] <mudpit> it says the server is outdated when anyone tries to log into it
#2674 [15:34] <mudpit> and i re installed everything..
#2675 [15:35] <lyude> Nah, we'll find a way. I love linux but if you want windows you should get windows
#2676 [15:35] <lyude> hm
#2677 [15:35] <lyude> Download this jar and try it
#2678 [15:35] <mudpit> kk
#2679 [15:35] <lyude> (gimme a sec)
#2680 [15:35] <mudpit> mmk
#2681 [15:35] <mudpit> the new jar right?
#2682 [15:35] <mudpit> just tried
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#2684 [15:36] <lyude> Alright, http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar
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#2686 [15:36] <lyude> The PKGBUILD for minecraft-server in the aur for Arch Linux has that as the server source
#2687 [15:36] <lyude> I changed the md5 sum to match the newer server and it installed just fine
#2688 [15:36] <mudpit> wait i gotta change this? or is it ok
#2689 [15:36] <lyude> Nah, md5sum is only for the pkgbuild crap
#2690 [15:36] <lyude> JKust download that jar and try it
#2691 [15:36] <mudpit> I run my server off hey0mod kk
#2692 [15:37] <mudpit> one sec
#2693 [15:37] <lyude> oh hey0mod
#2694 [15:37] <lyude> Hey0mod was a dick to me
#2695 [15:37] <lyude> I gave up on it :U
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#2697 [15:37] <knobbi> Greetings Earthlings
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#2699 [15:38] <mudpit> hey0mods been great
#2700 [15:38] <mudpit> heyo's been great
#2701 [15:38] <knobbi> Has anyone managed to get the Beta server to work ?
#2702 [15:38] <lyude> yes
#2703 [15:38] <mudpit> i get about 50 people in a SMP server:D
#2704 [15:38] <mudpit> nopeee
#2705 [15:38] <lyude> BUT
#2706 [15:38] <mudpit> error:
#2707 [15:38] <lyude> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/server_software_takes_more_power_then_before
#2708 [15:38] <mudpit> incompattable object arguement
#2709 [15:38] <lyude> knobbi, it works but I have that bug
#2710 [15:38] <lyude> And just run the stock server for now
#2711 [15:38] <mudpit> i don't get it
#2712 [15:38] <mudpit> oh
#2713 [15:38] <mudpit> meh
#2714 [15:38] <mudpit> smp stock
#2715 [15:38] <lyude> I don't use hey0mod because of how much of a PITA it was for me
#2716 [15:38] <mudpit> isn't safe
#2717 [15:39] <lyude> How so?
#2718 [15:39] <mudpit> griefer haven
#2719 [15:39] <lyude> How many people average your server
#2720 [15:39] <mudpit> 20 on a normal day
#2721 [15:39] <Oggrish> where can i find the update log?
#2722 [15:39] <lyude> Alright
#2723 [15:39] <Oggrish> or changelog
#2724 [15:39] <knobbi> SMP stock (which is what I was using yesterday) doesn't seem to work with the beta client for me
#2725 [15:39] <lyude> mudpit, just run the stock server to see if it works, then shut it down
#2726 [15:39] <lyude> Report the bug to the hey0mod people
#2727 [15:39] <knobbi> maybe I should have blocked the updating of the client
#2728 [15:39] <lyude> It's not the fault of notch
#2729 [15:39] <mudpit> yeahhh
#2730 [15:39] <knobbi> I dont run any addons/mods either
#2731 [15:39] <mudpit> i should of blocked update too:/
#2732 [15:40] <mudpit> I do:d
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#2734 [15:40] <knobbi> It looks like the server isn't using the config file
#2735 [15:40] <mudpit> I have: npcs, shops, jails, economy, spleef, ctf, ships, land ownership, towny mods, politics
#2736 [15:40] <knobbi> I have verify-names set to false, yet the server says:
#2737 [15:40] <knobbi> 07:14:24 /192.168.1.44 connected
#2738 [15:40] <knobbi> 07:14:29 Kicking /192.168.1.44: You need to log in!
#2739 [15:40] <knobbi> 07:14:29 /192.168.1.44 disconnected
#2740 [15:40] <lyude> o_O
#2741 [15:41] <mudpit> wtf...
#2742 [15:41] <lyude> Weird
#2743 [15:41] <mudpit> gah
#2744 [15:41] <lyude> server runs fine on linux
#2745 [15:41] <mudpit> damn minecraft:(
#2746 [15:41] <mudpit> I'm gonna go map edit...
#2747 [15:41] <lyude> For once something has better support on linux
#2748 [15:41] <knobbi> I'm on linux - ubuntu 10.04
#2749 [15:41] <mudpit> lol
#2750 [15:41] * lyude is proud :D
#2750 [15:41] <mudpit> you should like...
#2751 [15:41] <lyude> Arch Linux LTS Stock
#2752 [15:41] <mudpit> record this moment
#2753 [15:41] <mudpit> and send it to all linux users
#2754 [15:41] <lyude> :P
#2755 [15:41] <mudpit> for it's the last of it's kind
#2756 [15:41] <lyude> And knobbi
#2757 [15:41] <lyude> sudo apt-get purge jre
#2758 [15:41] <lyude> oops
#2759 [15:41] <lyude> sudo apt-get purge openjdk6
#2760 [15:41] <Kealper> lol
#2761 [15:41] <lyude> sudo apt-get install jre
#2762 [15:42] <lyude> Try that
#2763 [15:42] <lyude> I use JRE because it's officially supported by Mojang
#2764 [15:42] <Oggrish> Where can i find the changelog?
#2765 [15:42] <lyude> OpenJDK is not
#2766 [15:42] <lyude> JRE may have better compadability
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#2769 [15:43] * Kealper updates his server
#2769 [15:43] <lyude> knobbi, tell me the results
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#2771 [15:43] <lyude> ALso
#2772 [15:43] <lyude> Guys, explain to me why they coded minecraft in java :C
#2773 [15:43] <knobbi> I don't have openjdk6
#2774 [15:44] <lyude> It may be under a different name for ubuntu knobbi
#2775 [15:44] <lyude> Just see what java enviornment you use
#2776 [15:44] <lyude> Look through synaptic
#2777 [15:44] <Kealper> lyude: Notch knows Java the best, and it makes it so it works on anything with the specs needed to use it
#2778 [15:44] <lyude> ah
#2779 [15:44] <lyude> I guess that's a good enough explanation
#2780 [15:44] <lyude> Let's bitch at Oracle for making java suck them
#2781 [15:44] <lyude> *then
#2782 [15:44] <Kealper> indeed
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#2784 [15:46] <Kealper> ok...so...time to test to see if my server works
#2785 [15:46] <adriel> hi?
#2786 [15:46] <adriel> i need some help
#2787 [15:46] <adriel> or to ask some question
#2788 [15:47] <lyude> So apparently
#2789 [15:47] <lyude> We're not in beta
#2790 [15:47] <lyude> We're in "Not Beta"
#2791 [15:47] <lyude> Stuck between alpha and betas
#2792 [15:47] <lyude> *beta
#2793 [15:47] <lyude> I kid you not
#2794 [15:47] <Kealper> oh lookie there! my server worked the first time, and my map still works!
#2795 [15:47] <Oggrish> lol, i dont have more than 300 fps in minecraft on my computer after the update
#2796 [15:47] <lyude> <indrora> lyude: Notch decided to not be in beta anymore.
#2797 [15:47] <lyude> <lyude> SAY WHAT
#2798 [15:47] <lyude> <lyude> He said he was releasing bug fixes tommorrow
#2799 [15:47] <lyude> <indrora> yeah
#2800 [15:47] <lyude> <indrora> but its not beta anymore. We're officially Not Beta.
#2801 [15:47] <lyude> <indrora> He was talking about it on his twitter a while back
#2802 [15:47] <Kealper> /feigned happiness
#2803 [15:47] <knobbi> It's: apt-get purge jre openjdk-6-jre on Ubuntu
#2804 [15:47] <lyude> wait
#2805 [15:47] <lyude> But I said to use jre
#2806 [15:47] <lyude> Not openjdl
#2807 [15:47] <lyude> *openjdk
#2808 [15:48] <lyude> use jre, not the openjdk stuff
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#2810 [15:48] <adriel> i'm using sun jdk
#2811 [15:48] <adriel> but i can't make it work
#2812 [15:48] <lyude> Sun jdk isn't specific enough :P
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#2814 [15:48] <lyude> Alright adriel, let's start from the top
#2815 [15:48] <lyude> What OS are you running
#2816 [15:48] <lyude> And what is the name of the java software
#2817 [15:48] <adriel> sure
#2818 [15:48] <adriel> xD
#2819 [15:48] <adriel> sorry
#2820 [15:48] <adriel> xD
#2821 [15:49] <lyude> Don't worry, everyone does it
#2822 [15:49] <adriel> i'm using Ubuntu 10.10
#2823 [15:49] <mudpit> Yess!
#2824 [15:49] <mudpit> heheh
#2825 [15:49] <adriel> Ati Hd 4670
#2826 [15:49] <mudpit> my serve rhas horses and stables now:D
#2827 [15:49] <Kealper> java -version
#2828 [15:49] <lyude> But is it stable?
#2829 [15:49] <Kealper> mudpit: eh?
#2830 [15:49] <lyude> Kealper, thank you
#2831 [15:49] <mudpit> yeah!
#2832 [15:49] <adriel> java version "1.6.0_22"
#2833 [15:49] <adriel> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)
#2834 [15:49] <adriel> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode)
#2835 [15:49] <mudpit> doenst work yet due to beta but i can play on it:P
#2836 [15:49] <Kealper> that indeed looks like sun's
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#2838 [15:49] <tPK> anyone else having beta runs a lot slower than alpha?
#2839 [15:50] <mudpit> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=86929
#2840 [15:50] <knobbi> Ok ... I'm looking for the Sun JRE
#2841 [15:50] <mudpit> beta doesn't work for me:/
#2842 [15:50] <lyude> So official jre, not openjdk6
#2843 [15:50] <adriel> yes yes
#2844 [15:50] <lyude> knobbi, I think you were using it
#2845 [15:50] <adriel> official
#2846 [15:50] <lyude> If the ubuntu default is jre then you were
#2847 [15:50] <lyude> adriel, I've got no idea... what is the server error
#2848 [15:50] <lyude> And are you running any sort of mod, aka hey0mod, etc.
#2849 [15:50] <adriel> no
#2850 [15:50] <Kealper> tPK: seems fine for me
#2851 [15:50] <adriel> just pure game
#2852 [15:51] <adriel> i have this... "# C [+0x416] __kernel_vsyscall+0x2"
#2853 [15:51] <lyude> Alright, so what problems does it give you when you try to launch it
#2854 [15:51] <lyude> oh god
#2855 [15:51] <lyude> Kernel panic?
#2856 [15:51] <adriel> yep
#2857 [15:51] <lyude> Failbuntu's fault
#2858 [15:51] <lyude> Check your drivers
#2859 [15:51] <lyude> It's probably a driver gone wrong somewhere
#2860 [15:51] <lyude> It's not minecraft's fault
#2861 [15:51] <adriel> yes i suspect on ati...
#2862 [15:51] <lyude> Wait
#2863 [15:51] <lyude> Open source ati drivers
#2864 [15:51] <Kealper> reason #123832 why i say "eew" when people say they run ubuntu
#2865 [15:51] <lyude> Or FGLRC
#2866 [15:51] <adriel> nono
#2867 [15:51] <lyude> *FGLRX
#2868 [15:51] <adriel> privative
#2869 [15:51] <lyude> Kealper, ubuntu has it's place
#2870 [15:51] <adriel> oficial ati drivers
#2871 [15:52] <lyude> Fglrx then
#2872 [15:52] <adriel> yes
#2873 [15:52] <lyude> Try opensource and see what happens
#2874 [15:52] <Kealper> lyude: and it serves it well, yes...but i wish it didn't have it's place lol
#2875 [15:52] <Ipooted> oh hay
#2876 [15:52] <lyude> I use fglrx though, on my desktop and laptop
#2877 [15:52] <lyude> Server doesn't need a gui
#2878 [15:52] <lyude> Same here :P
#2879 [15:52] <adriel> xD
#2880 [15:52] <Ipooted> I got slow lighting :\
#2881 [15:52] <lyude> I love Arch, what distro do you use?
#2882 [15:52] <adriel> i wanna run the client
#2883 [15:52] <lyude> ohhhhhhhhhh
#2884 [15:52] <adriel> but i cant
#2885 [15:52] <Ipooted> Debian
#2886 [15:52] <Ipooted> derp
#2887 [15:52] <adriel> even in a browser
#2888 [15:52] <lyude> It's failbuntu's fault
#2889 [15:53] <adriel> i think it's ati's fault...
#2890 [15:53] <lyude> Sorry adriel... not much you can do but report the bug to the dev s
#2891 [15:53] <lyude> Oh, and ati's
#2892 [15:53] <lyude> Yeah :P
#2893 [15:53] <lyude> WAIT
#2894 [15:53] <Kealper> although i do like ubuntu for one reason.....and that would be linux mint...imo mint > ubuntu...since it has access to all ubuntu's repos by default and it just seems to suck less
#2895 [15:53] <lyude> adriel, go into the terminal
#2896 [15:53] <adriel> thx lyude
#2897 [15:53] <lyude> try glxgears
#2898 [15:53] <lyude> tell me what happens
#2899 [15:53] <lyude> You may need to use aptitude to install it
#2900 [15:53] <adriel> it works fine
#2901 [15:54] <lyude> Alright o_O
#2902 [15:54] <lyude> Report it to ubuntu then
#2903 [15:54] <adriel> the problem is ati
#2904 [15:54] <ionface> glxinfo | grep render
#2905 [15:54] <adriel> is not the first time of this...
#2906 [15:54] <lyude> Yeah, they'll get ati to fix it
#2907 [15:54] <knobbi> Hi Adriel
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#2909 [15:54] <Kealper> ati has some SHITTY drivers for linux
#2910 [15:54] <lyude> I use ATi, ATi sucks for linux
#2911 [15:54] <adriel> hi knobbi
#2912 [15:54] <lyude> PRetty damn awesome cards, but drivers for shit
#2913 [15:54] <adriel> so many engeneers to do that...
#2914 [15:54] <Kealper> lyude: that.
#2915 [15:54] <ionface> lyude, yep
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#2917 [15:54] <lyude> I finally ran games under wine
#2918 [15:54] <lyude> I'm all happ[y and stuff
#2919 [15:54] <Kealper> lol
#2920 [15:54] <adriel> xD
#2921 [15:55] <lyude> Then they run laggy because of fucking fglrx
#2922 [15:55] <Ipooted> What? Are you guys talking 'bout a server?
#2923 [15:55] <lyude> Client
#2924 [15:55] <lyude> Ubuntu 10.10
#2925 [15:55] <Kealper> Ipooted: client on linux
#2926 [15:55] <ionface> ati drivers crash on linux
#2927 [15:55] <Ipooted> Ah.
#2928 [15:55] <lyude> Cause kernel panic
#2929 [15:55] <adriel> if people don't want to work no open source, please don't mess with the drivers!
#2930 [15:55] <adriel> xD
#2931 [15:55] <Ipooted> I run Linux too.
#2932 [15:55] <lyude> the PC pees everywhere OUT OF FEAR
#2933 [15:55] <lyude> Same here
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#2935 [15:55] <lyude> I run Arch Linux amd64
#2936 [15:55] <lyude> Actually almost every PC in the house runs Arch
#2937 [15:55] * Kealper runs windoze
#2937 [15:56] <Kealper> too much crap that i do sucks under wine
#2938 [15:56] <adriel> well thxs folks...
#2939 [15:56] <Goordon> Hey guys, just lil' question, server still doesnt work?
#2940 [15:56] <lyude> Kealper, like?
#2941 [15:56] <Ipooted> It seems that almost EVERYONE on windows doesn't have problems with MineCraft, and almost EVERYONE on mac and Linux have lots of problems
#2942 [15:56] <lyude> Goordon, for everyone but me apparently
#2943 [15:56] <adriel> i will kick some heads
#2944 [15:56] <lyude> I don't
#2945 [15:56] <lyude> Minecraft works fine with linux
#2946 [15:56] <Kealper> lyude: an mmo i play, HackShield fails under wine
#2947 [15:56] <Ipooted> It does
#2948 [15:56] <knobbi> Goordon - I'm gere trying to fix it
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#2950 [15:56] <Kealper> as does GameGuard
#2951 [15:57] <adriel> yes, minecraft runs fine under linux
#2952 [15:57] <Ipooted> In-browser locks up for me
#2953 [15:57] <lyude> Do you use ati?
#2954 [15:57] <adriel> the problem are the others
#2955 [15:57] <lyude> And I know how to touch linux just the right way
#2956 [15:57] <adriel> the drivers
#2957 [15:57] <lyude> So that's why everything works for me
#2958 [15:57] <Goordon> The server also works @ Linux? o_O players can join?
#2959 [15:57] <Kealper> lyude: was that at me or someone else? lol
#2960 [15:57] <knobbi> Adriel: Yep - Minecraft fine under linux
#2961 [15:57] <lyude> Goordon, 60% of servers in the world run linux xD
#2962 [15:57] <Goordon> yea i know lol
#2963 [15:57] <lyude> Almost every game has a server for linux
#2964 [15:57] <tPK> I just can't get other people to join my server (overload thing), everyone seems to run fine on themselves
#2965 [15:57] <Ipooted> Can I visit the server? =D All the other servers are out-dated
#2966 [15:57] <lyude> Plus it's java, java = crossplatform
#2967 [15:57] <lyude> Mine? no no no...
#2968 [15:58] <lyude> nooooo no no....
#2969 [15:58] * lyude backs away
#2969 [15:58] <lyude> noooo no no...
#2970 [15:58] <Ipooted> o.o
#2971 [15:58] <Kealper> XD
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#2973 [15:58] <lyude> If I put the address on here it'll be griefed
#2974 [15:58] <lyude> And then I'll have to change my dns
#2975 [15:58] <Ipooted> PM me it lyude
#2976 [15:58] <lyude> *domain name
#2977 [15:58] <Goordon> xD
#2978 [15:58] <Kealper> QUICK EVERYONE, JOIN craft.lyude.com !!!
#2979 [15:58] <lyude> Well, Ipooted, can you put up with lag out the wazoo?
#2980 [15:58] <lyude> OH NOEZ
#2981 [15:58] * lyude flails
#2981 [15:58] <Ipooted> Yes
#2982 [15:58] <lyude> k
#2983 [15:58] <Ipooted> FAAAAAAIIIIL
#2984 [15:59] <Goordon> Yea ok.. just wanted to ask.. :( since me and my friend wanted to play a bit so one of us wanted to run a local server but well.. we both have windowz :(
#2985 [15:59] * Kealper waits as some random dns gets about 50 requests for something that doesn't exist
#2985 [15:59] <Ipooted> Everyone joins and griefs!
#2986 [15:59] <Ipooted> Its super effective!
#2987 [15:59] <Ipooted> LOl
#2988 [15:59] <lyude> Goordon, servers can use windows
#2989 [15:59] <Goordon> O_O
#2990 [15:59] <Kealper> mine does
#2991 [15:59] <lyude> lol
#2992 [16:00] <Goordon> okay well.. so i think i do something wrong
#2993 [16:00] <lyude> Windows and Linux usually have server software
#2994 [16:00] <Ipooted> Unable to connect?
#2995 [16:00] <Goordon> :/
#2996 [16:00] <tPK> mine runs on windows but is just failing rightn ow
#2997 [16:00] <lyude> Goordon, are you trying to play over lan
#2998 [16:00] <lyude> Or wan
#2999 [16:00] <Goordon> i get something like overflow.. disconnect.overflow
#3000 [16:00] <Goordon> in server console
#3001 [16:00] <ionface> why wont your server work lyude? I'm trying it on all three computers repeatedly and my friend is too!
#3002 [16:00] <lyude> Might is lagging ouit the wazoo
#3003 [16:00] <lyude> o_O
#3004 [16:00] <Goordon> We play over internet, worked @ alpha
#3005 [16:00] <lyude> Lemme check
#3006 [16:00] <Goordon> beta fcks it up..
#3007 [16:00] <tPK> ^
#3008 [16:00] <Ipooted> doh, I timed out
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#3010 [16:00] <tPK> same here
#3011 [16:00] <Ipooted> Failed to connect
#3012 [16:00] <lyude> Ipooted,
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#3014 [16:00] <bildramer> Mr, it was meant to mean "after beta"
#3015 [16:00] <Mr> Hello
#3016 [16:00] <Mr> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=110789
#3017 [16:00] <lyude> Lemme check the port fowarding
#3018 [16:00] <Ipooted> Aight
#3019 [16:01] <ionface> lyude, don't, was joking
#3020 [16:01] <bildramer> so it's 14,95
#3021 [16:01] <lyude> oh
#3022 [16:01] <bildramer> beta got released a few hours ago
#3023 [16:01] <Kealper> lol
#3024 [16:01] <Mr> So i'll not get future updates for free?
#3025 [16:01] <Mr> after beta?
#3026 [16:01] <lyude> Ipooted, my network info is all screwed up
#3027 [16:01] <L551> You will get any future versions for free
#3028 [16:01] <Ipooted> No.
#3029 [16:01] <lyude> Lemme restart the network stuff
#3030 [16:01] <L551> Just not any expansions
#3031 [16:02] <Ipooted> Mr, have you bought the game before today?
#3032 [16:02] <Mr> No.. I just got home..
#3033 [16:02] <Ipooted> Like yesterday?
#3034 [16:02] <Mr> ffs..
#3035 [16:02] <tPK> but doesn't modding allow you to pretty much replace expansions?
#3036 [16:02] <Mr> late :S
#3037 [16:02] <lyude> Ipooted, I can connect over lan
#3038 [16:02] <lyude> And my port fowarding is done correctly
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#3041 [16:03] <Ipooted> lyude: try again then?
#3042 [16:03] <mib_s1wb2s> hello
#3043 [16:03] <mib_s1wb2s> when is the beta up?
#3044 [16:03] <tPK> now?
#3045 [16:03] <Ipooted> Its up right now!
#3046 [16:03] <mib_s1wb2s> i can't play
#3047 [16:03] <knobbi> Hi Mib'
#3048 [16:03] <Goordon> its already available
#3049 [16:03] <Ipooted> Why?
#3050 [16:03] <mib_s1wb2s> ahh allright i can see it (:
#3051 [16:03] <mib_s1wb2s> thx ^^
#3052 [16:03] <lyude> Ipooted, are you connectred?
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#3054 [16:04] <Ipooted> Its still failing
#3055 [16:04] <lyude> damnit, gimme error pl0x
#3056 [16:04] <mudpit> anyone on windows get the beta smp to work yet?
#3057 [16:04] <Ipooted> Wait...
#3058 [16:04] <m1sterlurk> for some reason all connections are real crappy
#3059 [16:04] <Goordon> mudpit, doesnt work for me, i get "disconnect.overflow" mostly
#3060 [16:05] <mudpit> i just get outdated....
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#3062 [16:05] <knobbi> Mudpit - not for linux yet
#3063 [16:05] <m1sterlurk> I think that it just times out users when they don't load the entire world instantly
#3064 [16:05] <Ipooted> Failed to connect to the server. Connection timed out.
#3065 [16:05] <lyude> O_o
#3066 [16:05] <mudpit> failed to connect to server outdated
#3067 [16:05] <Ipooted> doh
#3068 [16:05] <lyude> Lemme to a /etc/rc.d/network restart
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#3070 [16:05] <mib_s1wb2s> so whats new in the beta?
#3071 [16:05] <mudpit> nothing known yet
#3072 [16:05] <Ipooted> mmm
#3073 [16:05] <mudpit> suggested possibilities:
#3074 [16:05] <mudpit> capes
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#3076 [16:05] <mudpit> and pigmen hut villages
#3077 [16:05] <Ipooted> Brb, need to get some cold medicine
#3078 [16:06] <Goordon> Could someone try to join my server l8er? :o
#3079 [16:06] <mudpit> i'll ty
#3080 [16:06] <mudpit> try*
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#3085 [16:07] <Ipooted> Yay, that feels better
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#3087 [16:08] <Ipooted> help
#3088 [16:08] <lyude> Ipooted, I don't know what's going on :U
#3089 [16:08] <mudpit> huh?
#3090 [16:08] <Miclee> Capes are Mojang-employees-only
#3091 [16:08] <lyude> Sorry D:
#3092 [16:08] <Ipooted> :\
#3093 [16:08] <mudpit> poopy.
#3094 [16:08] <mudpit> nah
#3095 [16:08] <mudpit> it's okay
#3096 [16:08] <Kealper> Miclee: does that mean you get one?
#3097 [16:08] <mudpit> i can code for them
#3098 [16:08] <Ipooted> I want to make my own server :|
#3099 [16:08] <mudpit> or just mmake my own items
#3100 [16:08] <Miclee> No, I need to convince Notch to give me a pigman one.
#3101 [16:08] <mudpit> have you ever made one before?
#3102 [16:09] <Goordon> mudpit i sent ya the ip :P
#3103 [16:09] <Ipooted> But my dad wouldn't let me
#3104 [16:09] <Ipooted> L\
#3105 [16:09] <lyude> Ipooted, I can reboot the server if you want
#3106 [16:09] <mudpit> how do i find it?
#3107 [16:09] <lyude> I have a feeling that may help
#3108 [16:09] <mudpit> ohhhhh
#3109 [16:09] <mudpit> lol
#3110 [16:09] <Kealper> oh...meh
#3111 [16:09] <Goordon> :D
#3112 [16:09] <lyude> But then I lose the uptime of 15 days D:
#3113 [16:09] <Ipooted> :O!
#3114 [16:09] <Ipooted> I connnected!
#3115 [16:09] <Ipooted> Yay.
#3116 [16:09] <lyude> :D
#3117 [16:09] * Kealper fires up L4D2
#3117 [16:10] <tPK> ok people I'm having trouble with peopel connecting to my server. I run a local/private server on my own PC (Win7) over hamachi. I can connect and play on my server just fine, but when someone else joins they are there for a second or 2 and then get DC'd with the overflow error. anyoen ideas?
#3118 [16:10] <mudpit> it happens to me too
#3119 [16:10] <mudpit> except it saysserver outdated
#3120 [16:10] <mudpit> idk what to do
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#3122 [16:10] <Goordon> says something like this? [INFO] Goordon lost connection: disconnect.overflow
#3123 [16:10] <mudpit> now i can't even open minecraft:(((((((((((
#3124 [16:10] <tPK> yes exactly that
#3125 [16:10] <Goordon> ive the same :S
#3126 [16:11] <Goordon> no idea how to solve it..
#3127 [16:11] <tPK> damn
#3128 [16:11] <mudpit> no like
#3129 [16:11] <mudpit> moinecraft
#3130 [16:11] <mudpit> the program
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#3132 [16:11] <mudpit> won't open
#3133 [16:11] <mudpit> it crashes right after loggin
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#3135 [16:11] <mudpit> help?
#3136 [16:11] <Goordon> x.x
#3137 [16:13] <mudpit> :(
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#3139 [16:13] <mudpit> Can anyone help??
#3140 [16:13] <mudpit> minecraft won't even open now...
#3141 [16:14] <Goordon> lol :S
#3142 [16:14] <Goordon> o idea..
#3143 [16:14] <Goordon> no*
#3144 [16:14] <mudpit> gett thanksss...
#3145 [16:14] <mudpit> geee*
#3146 [16:14] <mudpit> rawr:/
#3147 [16:14] <LAWLandMine> No offense mudpit but this is new for everyone.
#3148 [16:14] <LAWLandMine> Beta brought a lot of new bugs.
#3149 [16:14] <LAWLandMine> Everyone is figuring things out as we go, we know about as much as you do.
#3150 [16:14] <mudpit> i know
#3151 [16:14] <LAWLandMine> Give it time.
#3152 [16:15] <mudpit> i've been here for like 30 mins
#3153 [16:15] <mudpit> just bitching is all
#3154 [16:15] <lyude> mudpit, you can't run it along with like 100 other people
#3155 [16:15] <lyude> :P
#3156 [16:15] <mudpit> yeah yeah yeah
#3157 [16:16] <mudpit> alright i'm gonna go find food if someone wants server ideas, mods, plugins, or startup info pm chat me
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#3159 [16:17] <lyude> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/server_software_takes_more_power_then_before
#3160 [16:17] <lyude> Guys
#3161 [16:17] <lyude> If you have that problem say you have it
#3162 [16:18] <tPK> ok just to brainstorm a bit, did the overflow disconnect happen in alpha and what is/was generallly the cuase?
#3163 [16:18] <knobbi> lyude: I don't know if I have that problem
#3164 [16:18] <lyude> Well if anyone knows they do say you do so it gets more attention
#3165 [16:18] <Kealper> lyude: mine seems to be working fine on a 1.8ghz single core sempron with 512mb of ram allocated to it
#3166 [16:18] <knobbi> lyude: Beta server is yet to have a connection
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#3169 [16:18] <lyude> o_O
#3170 [16:18] <Goordon> i think ive the problem, my server uses 200-400 mb of ram when ONE user is on it
#3171 [16:18] <Goordon> thats abnormal
#3172 [16:18] <lyude> Mine's a 2 GHz Pentium 4 with almost all the ram allocated to it
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#3174 [16:18] <lyude> Goordon, it's not abnormal: It's java
#3175 [16:19] <Kealper> Goordon: you must just have a huge map
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#3177 [16:19] <Kealper> lyude: eeeeeewwwww
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#3179 [16:19] <Goordon> .. yea.. pretty huge one :S
#3180 [16:19] <knobbi> Goordon - have you tried restricting the amount of RAM available to java ?
#3181 [16:19] <lyude> Kealper, I found it in a dumpster
#3182 [16:19] <lyude> :P
#3183 [16:19] <lyude> Literally
#3184 [16:19] <Kealper> fair enough
#3185 [16:19] <Kealper> lol
#3186 [16:19] <lyude> My other PC's are Core 2 Quad
#3187 [16:19] <Goordon> ye i tried, didnt really help, made it even more laggy
#3188 [16:19] <lyude> And AMD Turion X2 Ultra
#3189 [16:19] <knobbi> Instead of using "java -Xms512M -Xmx512M" try it with 256M
#3190 [16:20] <Kealper> lyude: how much ram does your server have in it? lol
#3191 [16:20] <lyude> 1.5 GB
#3192 [16:20] <knobbi> although you might run out of memory I guess ... *shrug*
#3193 [16:20] <lyude> Then 1.5 /swap
#3194 [16:20] <Kealper> oh, and you have 1 gig allocated? or 1.5?
#3195 [16:20] <Goordon> me? ive 8 Gigs o ram
#3196 [16:20] <lyude> I think about a gig?
#3197 [16:20] <lyude> I don't know, i need to check the script in my /usr/bin
#3198 [16:20] <lyude> I installed mine off the aur
#3199 [16:21] <Kealper> from what i've seen, it runs fine as long as it stays on ran and does not run into swap
#3200 [16:21] <lyude> I wanna try running this on Ultrasparc
#3201 [16:21] <lyude> dun dun dunnn
#3202 [16:21] <Kealper> once it tries using pf/swap it lags like a friggin boss
#3203 [16:21] <Kealper> XD
#3204 [16:21] <lyude> It uses 108 K of /swap
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#3206 [16:21] <Orion> java was never meant to use swap
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#3208 [16:21] <lyude> But I'm getting a Sun V480
#3209 [16:22] <lyude> Java doesn't use the swap
#3210 [16:22] <lyude> Something's using it
#3211 [16:22] <Orion> java is fat and lazy
#3212 [16:22] <Kealper> i try to keep my server off pf (yea, it's windows, so sue me) entirely
#3213 [16:22] <lyude> Yeah
#3214 [16:22] <lyude> Java sucks D:
#3215 [16:22] <lyude> Windows like, forced me to use pf when I ran i
#3216 [16:22] <lyude> t
#3217 [16:23] <Kealper> like mine only has a gig of ram, so i've got it set up to allocate just enough to get it so my server is running about 990mb of ram usage lol
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#3219 [16:23] <lyude> Dpes anyone else have a problem with items cloning themselves on SMP
#3220 [16:23] <Zenreich> lyude, its a known bug, notch is aware of it
#3221 [16:24] <Kealper> crap....with me running AuBot, it's sitting at 998mb of ram >.>
#3222 [16:24] <lyude> TBH if I were him i'd probably have learned another language first
#3223 [16:24] <lyude> Maybe C
#3224 [16:24] <lyude> or Python
#3225 [16:24] <Kealper> he knows C/C++ now
#3226 [16:24] <lyude> D:
#3227 [16:24] <Kealper> python, really? lol
#3228 [16:24] <lyude> GBut he doesn't use it :c
#3229 [16:25] <lyude> Idk
#3230 [16:25] <lyude> I don't do much programming
#3231 [16:25] <lyude> Something that compiles would be better though I guess
#3232 [16:25] <lyude> iNstead of an interpreter like java
#3233 [16:25] <lyude> or python
#3234 [16:25] <Kealper> the next game that Mojang is bringing out is supposed to be done in C++ from what i've heard
#3235 [16:25] <knobbi> You can always compile java to native binaries Lyude, use gcj etc.
#3236 [16:25] <lyude> I hope he redoes minecraft in C++ later
#3237 [16:25] <lyude> o_o
#3238 [16:25] <lyude> How much faster would that make it
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#3240 [16:26] <Kealper> but since most of the low-level stuff in minecraft was made over a year ago (classic), he's just stuck with Java for the newer ones
#3241 [16:26] <Kealper> not much faster honestly
#3242 [16:26] <knobbi> Hard to say ... might be worth it onthe server
#3243 [16:26] <Kealper> java is pretty quick
#3244 [16:26] <lyude> BUT, this would cut out on cpu usage
#3245 [16:26] <Orion> it can be if you dont ask it anything hard
#3246 [16:26] <lyude> I'd be willing to cross compile it
#3247 [16:26] <Kealper> most of the slowness and suck is coming from Notch just throwing code in without optimizing it first..he has even admitted that himself
#3248 [16:27] <lyude> Is he going to optimize it later?
#3249 [16:27] <lyude> And I'd be willing to compile it later
#3250 [16:27] <Kealper> that's what Beta will focus on
#3251 [16:27] <Orion> i dont mind testing but i wish autoupdate would go away
#3252 [16:27] <Kealper> is fixing bugs that were caused in alpha, adding some new content, and streamlining the code
#3253 [16:27] <Kealper> Orion: there are already plans in place to make that optional
#3254 [16:27] <lyude> knobbi, how do you use gcf
#3255 [16:27] <lyude> *gcj
#3256 [16:28] <Orion> and what happend today is exactly why it should be optional
#3257 [16:28] <knobbi> Lyude: I've never used it
#3258 [16:28] <knobbi> but I'm tempted to try it on the server code ;)
#3259 [16:29] <Kealper> Orion: my server and my players who use it seem fine
#3260 [16:29] <knobbi> It wouldn't do anything for the memory use though
#3261 [16:29] <lyude> aur/gcc-gcj 4.5.1-1 (Out of Date) (104)
#3262 [16:29] <lyude> The GNU Compiler for Java
#3263 [16:29] <Kealper> ok now///
#3264 [16:29] <Kealper> ....*
#3265 [16:30] <Orion> all mine are broken
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#3269 [16:33] <Ipooted> Awww?
#3270 [16:33] <Ipooted> lol what?
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#3273 [16:35] <Toxip> any way to downgrade the client?
#3274 [16:35] <Ipooted> Downgrade it?
#3275 [16:35] <Ipooted> Hummmmm
#3276 [16:35] <Toxip> back to alpha
#3277 [16:35] <Orion> no
#3278 [16:35] <Ipooted> DOn't try to
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#3280 [16:35] <Ipooted> It messes up your .minecraft
#3281 [16:35] <Ipooted> Its harsh
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#3286 [16:36] <Toxip> but yeah, the update should be optional :/
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#3288 [16:36] <Toxip> I'm off to sleep
#3289 [16:37] <Toxip> hoping for a brighter tomorrow
#3290 [16:37] <Ipooted> derp
#3291 [16:37] <fork> herping
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#3293 [16:37] <lyude> Does Minecraft have 5.1 support
#3294 [16:38] <lyude> oh my god a fork
#3295 [16:38] <fork> omgz
#3296 [16:38] <Ipooted> Theres a fork talking in the IRC!
#3297 [16:38] <Ipooted> o_O
#3298 [16:39] <Ipooted> lyude why is the server acting up o.O
#3299 [16:39] <lyude> What is it doing?
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#3301 [16:39] <Ipooted> It says the connection reset error every time I spawn in the map..
#3302 [16:40] <Orion> they cant fork the code its against license
#3303 [16:40] <lyude> lemme check
#3304 [16:40] <lyude> Also knobbi, compiling the compiler right now
#3305 [16:40] <knobbi> lyude: Server with Sun JRE (as opposed to OpenJRE) it's exactly the same
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#3307 [16:40] <knobbi> Minecraft crashes
#3308 [16:40] <lyude> Damn
#3309 [16:40] <knobbi> 08:39:44 /192.168.1.44 connected
#3310 [16:40] <knobbi> 08:39:49 Kicking /192.168.1.44: You need to log in!
#3311 [16:40] <knobbi> 08:39:49 /192.168.1.44 disconnected
#3312 [16:40] <lyude> Not sure what to say then
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#3314 [16:41] <knobbi> java.lang.NullPointerException
#3315 [16:41] <knobbi> at io.a(SourceFile:426)
#3316 [16:41] <knobbi> at io.a(SourceFile:196)
#3317 [16:41] <knobbi> at nv.a(SourceFile:123)
#3318 [16:41] <knobbi> at ke.a(SourceFile:232)
#3319 [16:41] <knobbi> at io.a(SourceFile:94)
#3320 [16:41] <knobbi> at ov.g(SourceFile:43)
#3321 [16:41] <mudpit> won't even let me get to the main menu before mine crashes:/
#3322 [16:41] <knobbi> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.i(SourceFile:1074)
#3323 [16:41] <knobbi> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:677)
#3324 [16:41] <knobbi> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636)
#3325 [16:41] <lyude> I think we should all wait till tommorrow
#3326 [16:41] <knobbi> Why the server would require login, with verify-name=false I can only guess at
#3327 [16:41] <knobbi> Maybe some debug code left in
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#3330 [16:44] <Ipooted> lyude can I take a diamond pick and drop and pick up some and put one back in?
#3331 [16:44] <Ipooted> from ur chest?
#3332 [16:45] <lyude> Pick up what?
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#3335 [16:46] <Ipooted> wait nvm
#3336 [16:48] <thereddeh> whoa nice sentence
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#3339 [16:51] <Ipooted> Hm
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#3341 [16:52] <Ipooted> Sheep are still broke
#3342 [16:52] <Ipooted> fail
#3343 [16:52] <KittonKicker> Is everyone getting blackscreen?
#3344 [16:52] <Ipooted> a bit
#3345 [16:53] <pursuit3> Hey, im having trouble with my MC beta server
#3346 [16:53] <KittonKicker> SAME i'm getting black screen
#3347 [16:53] <KittonKicker> -_-
#3348 [16:53] <Ipooted> doh
#3349 [16:53] <pursuit3> basically whenever i try and get on my server it is kicking me off and saying i need to log in or something like that
#3350 [16:53] <Ipooted> Everyone is
#3351 [16:53] <Ipooted> doooooooooohhhhh
#3352 [16:53] <knobbi> pursuit3: Yeah, lots of us are
#3353 [16:53] <pursuit3> thats wat it says in the logs at least
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#3355 [16:54] <pursuit3> im trying to run it off hamachi
#3356 [16:54] <pursuit3> >_>
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#3358 [16:54] <mudpit> I CANT : open minecraft, or even work my smp server
#3359 [16:54] <mudpit> BETA ROCKSS LULZ
#3360 [16:54] <mudpit> nawt.
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#3362 [16:54] <Ipooted> Beta is just a stage in development, right?
#3363 [16:54] <mudpit> yepp
#3364 [16:55] <mudpit> it's th eone before it's a full blown game:D
#3365 [16:55] <mudpit> for real peoplez
#3366 [16:55] <knobbi> Beta is after Alpha (i.e.: the Greek letters)
#3367 [16:55] <Ipooted> Doh
#3368 [16:55] <knobbi> Alpha software is generally "This might even work"
#3369 [16:55] <mudpit> anyone getting sthe SE binary erro rwhen they try to open minecraft
#3370 [16:55] <knobbi> Beta Software is "This is feature complete, and we think we have mst of the bugs ironed out"
#3371 [16:55] <mudpit> then beta is: this shit sucks i'm gonna go cry with my 8 mill
#3372 [16:55] <knobbi> s/mst/most/
#3373 [16:56] <Ipooted> black
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#3377 [16:56] <Ipooted> help
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#3380 [16:57] <knobbi> There's a blog-post (3 hours old) saying client 1.0_01 is out
#3381 [16:58] <knobbi> I guess it would have auto-downloaded these updates ?
#3382 [16:58] <Ipooted> :s
#3383 [16:59] <lyude> Ipooted ?
#3384 [16:59] <Ipooted> Yes?
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#3389 [17:08] <NewMilenium> Hello people. I'm wondering; can anyone tell me the needed option to stop minecraft from auto-updating, please?
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#3391 [17:08] <lyude> There is none
#3392 [17:08] <NewMilenium> oh... my... god...
#3393 [17:08] <lyude> You're going to have to wait till tommorrow for the bug fixes
#3394 [17:08] <mudpit> it's down
#3395 [17:08] <mudpit> till like
#3396 [17:08] <mudpit> forever
#3397 [17:08] <lyude> For god sakes everyone is so damn impatient
#3398 [17:08] <Rambo1369> any way we can put something in the server to fix the overload flood
#3399 [17:09] <mudpit> lol
#3400 [17:09] <mudpit> lyude
#3401 [17:09] <Rambo1369> stupied
#3402 [17:09] <mudpit> just leave
#3403 [17:09] <lyude> mudpit, I was kidding :P
#3404 [17:09] <NewMilenium> we are in special Minecraft LAN and not waiting tomorrow; even if we have to find in the code the line about the update, we won't wait
#3405 [17:09] <knobbi> bye all ... thanks for the help
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#3407 [17:09] <lyude> Well you're going to need the old jar
#3408 [17:09] <NewMilenium> i got it, obviously
#3409 [17:09] <NewMilenium> i just need minecraft to stop updating :)
#3410 [17:09] <lyude> Then run that instead
#3411 [17:09] <lyude> OH
#3412 [17:09] <lyude> oops
#3413 [17:09] <lyude> Sorry
#3414 [17:09] <NewMilenium> no problem
#3415 [17:09] <lyude> I don't know how :\
#3416 [17:10] <Rambo1369> how to stop craft from updating
#3417 [17:10] <Rambo1369> ?
#3418 [17:10] <Rambo1369> so dumb
#3419 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> If you're running windows..
#3420 [17:10] <lyude> The only thing I could think of is to mod your hosts file so it redirects it to a server that doesn't have an update, and I don't know what Mojang's server runs on
#3421 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Go into HOSTS
#3422 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> just point minecraft.net to 127.0.0.1
#3423 [17:10] <lyude> Ah
#3424 [17:10] <lyude> That works? Nice
#3425 [17:10] <NewMilenium> OMG, nice
#3426 [17:10] <lyude> NewMilenium, could you send me the old jar stuff
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#3428 [17:11] <NewMilenium> thank you, GreyVulpine, trying right now
#3429 [17:11] <mudpit> wheres hosts?
#3430 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Course, that means you won't be able to go to the website until you revert it
#3431 [17:11] <NewMilenium> lyude > hum... email, and ok
#3432 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> windows -> system32
#3433 [17:11] <NewMilenium> but i got slow upload
#3434 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> drivers
#3435 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> etc
#3436 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> "hosts" file
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#3438 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Edit with txt editor
#3439 [17:11] <Rambo1369> so no other way to fix the flood problem by increasing it somewhere
#3440 [17:11] <Rambo1369> ?
#3441 [17:11] <lyude> And does anyone have the old server software?
#3442 [17:11] <Loxxlie> Would this be the place to ask if I had a problem creating a non GUI server?
#3443 [17:12] <lyude> Yes
#3444 [17:12] <lyude> What is your problem?
#3445 [17:12] <Loxxlie> Cause I've been trying for hours and I just cant get it to work
#3446 [17:12] <Loxxlie> Well
#3447 [17:12] <Loxxlie> I've run a GUI server before, and it ran fine and all, but I want the non gui one for more flexibility
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#3449 [17:12] <lyude> What problems does it give you?
#3450 [17:12] <NewMilenium> trying the hosts file now
#3451 [17:13] <Loxxlie> So I downloaded the minecraft-server.jar and ran the bat file and tryed to connect and I get
#3452 [17:13] <Loxxlie> booted from the server
#3453 [17:13] <Loxxlie> It tells me to login
#3454 [17:13] <fork> so whats new in beta?!?!?!?!
#3455 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Loxxlie - minecraft-server.jar is the classic server
#3456 [17:13] <Rambo1369> broke like no other
#3457 [17:13] <Loxxlie> Ohhh
#3458 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Are you trying to set up a classic server, or alpha?
#3459 [17:13] <Loxxlie> Where can I get the Survival one
#3460 [17:13] <Rambo1369> well
#3461 [17:13] <Loxxlie> nono survival
#3462 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Well...
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#3464 [17:13] <Rambo1369> so tomorrow we will get a update
#3465 [17:13] <Rambo1369> ??
#3466 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes Rambo1369
#3467 [17:14] <Rambo1369> so peoplpe trying different things to fix it
#3468 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Loxxlie - Currently, I don't know if there is a beta server version out yet
#3469 [17:14] <Rambo1369> ?
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#3471 [17:14] <Rambo1369> I think its the fucking leafs
#3472 [17:14] <Loxxlie> Hmmm, thats too bad.
#3473 [17:14] <NewMilenium> It does work
#3474 [17:14] <Koloz> Hey guys, anyone know if spiders despawn at night?
#3475 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> It does?
#3476 [17:14] <Loxxlie> So are any servers running righ now?
#3477 [17:14] <NewMilenium> now, we're trying in LAN
#3478 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Alright.
#3479 [17:14] <NewMilenium> i'll run the server and ask the guys to connect
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#3481 [17:14] <NewMilenium> not sure it will work
#3482 [17:14] <Priest> haiii
#3483 [17:14] <NewMilenium> (in LAN, still)
#3484 [17:14] <Priest> :3
#3485 [17:14] <Koloz> I have spiders outside my house during the day =/
#3486 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Loxxlie - You can download the server at the same page you got the alpha client from
#3487 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3488 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
#3489 [17:15] <Rambo1369> so yeah guys
#3490 [17:15] <Loxxlie> The one with an underscore?
#3491 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3492 [17:15] <Rambo1369> anyone working to fins a temp fix
#3493 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> the - is classic, the _ is alpha/survival
#3494 [17:15] <Rambo1369> find
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#3496 [17:15] <Loxxlie> I downloaded that one and I edited the bat file to run that one and it gives me an error
#3497 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Did you get the .exe or .jar?
#3498 [17:16] <Loxxlie> I used the .bat that came with the classic, then edited the - to a _
#3499 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't work
#3500 [17:16] <Loxxlie> What do I do?
#3501 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Get the .exe
#3502 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> if you're running windows
#3503 [17:16] <Loxxlie> Isnt that the GUI version?
#3504 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Uh, yes?
#3505 [17:17] <Loxxlie> Okay. Is it possible to run a non gui server on windows?
#3506 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then with the jar, edit your bat to have:
#3507 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3508 [17:18] <Loxxlie> Alright, gonna test that out now.
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#3511 [17:19] <daeda|us> anyone else lose their inventory when upgrading to beta?
#3512 [17:19] <Mikau> I like the GUI
#3513 [17:20] <Andre> I have inquiries about how to apply to work with notch and the whole mojang team... could I get this here?
#3514 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Email daniel@mojang.com for the CEO, or markus@mojang/notch@mojang.com
#3515 [17:20] <Loxxlie> Ahh, its working. So now I can connect to this one with my ip + port?
#3516 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Or you can twitter "notch" to get in touch
#3517 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes logikal
#3518 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> er, Loxxlie
#3519 [17:21] <Andre> okay thank you grey
#3520 [17:21] <Loxxlie> I'm sorry man, I didn't even see that really small tutorial that tells you how to do it xD Sorry to waste your time
#3521 [17:21] <Loxxlie> Thank you.
#3522 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> No prob. It's what we're here for
#3523 [17:21] <Loxxlie> :P
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#3525 [17:22] <jimkolp2> How do I upgrade a VPS?
#3526 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the provider?
#3527 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> You would need to talk to them
#3528 [17:22] <jimkolp2> ClanForge
#3529 [17:22] * GreyVulpine shrugs.
#3529 [17:23] <jimkolp2> Ever heard of it?
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#3531 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you'll want to look at their page, and upgrade accordingly to whatever plan they put forth
#3532 [17:24] <jimkolp2> OK.
#3533 [17:25] <jobotslash> daeda|us: I just updated my server and client, two users out of 4 still have their inventory, no problem.
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#3539 [17:32] <Rambo1369> what are we going to do
#3540 [17:32] <Rambo1369> ??
#3541 [17:32] <Rambo1369> no word or nothing
#3542 [17:33] <jimkolp2> We should rape Notch until he fixes Beta!
#3543 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Wait for tomorrow
#3544 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> One day isn't going to kill you
#3545 [17:33] <Nafosh> Any leads or ideas on how to solve "Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection Reset"?
#3546 [17:33] <jimkolp2> But what about the secret?
#3547 [17:34] * GreyVulpine shushes jimkolp2.
#3547 [17:34] <Rambo1369> well
#3548 [17:34] <Rambo1369> where does notch leave?
#3549 [17:34] * jimkolp2 thinks that Notch lives in Sweden
#3549 [17:35] <Rambo1369> oh ok
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#3552 [17:35] <Rambo1369> so later on today we will have an update
#3553 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Try tomorrow
#3554 [17:35] <Rambo1369> where do you live?
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#3556 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> On the interwebs.
#3557 [17:36] <jimkolp2> I am in the Pacific time zone.
#3558 [17:36] <Rambo1369> me too
#3559 [17:36] <jimkolp2> I live on the outerwebs
#3560 [17:36] <jellowiggler> ok folks. any word on the disconnect.overlow problems with beta server?
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#3562 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Wait for tomorrow
#3563 [17:37] <jellowiggler> that makes me sad. :-( ok thanks!
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#3565 [17:37] <NewMilenium> IT FUCKING WORKS. Thank you GreyVulpine.
#3566 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#3567 [17:38] <NewMilenium> well, at least for a friend and me. Now trying to make it work for the two others.
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#3569 [17:40] <NewMilenium> amazing it works.
#3570 [17:40] <Nafosh> what did you do
#3571 [17:41] <fizyplankton> does any one know why beta wont work anymore? i have creative servers up fine, so port forwarding is fine, and alpha 0.1.4 server used to work
#3572 [17:41] <lyude> Because it's broken
#3573 [17:41] <fizyplankton> clearly
#3574 [17:41] <lyude> Do you know how to stop minecraft from updating?
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#3576 [17:41] <lyude> I can upload the old software, you'll need the older client to get it to work though
#3577 [17:41] <fizyplankton> i have 4 differesnt clients
#3578 [17:42] <Cial> lyude, dont be online?
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#3580 [17:42] <fizyplankton> everytimei had to redownload the client, i never bothered todelete the old ones
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#3582 [17:42] <NewMilenium> Guys, i've got the same problem with Vista; it seems that , for our friend on Vista, the "hosts" file isn't taken in account; Minecraft keeps updating.
#3583 [17:42] <Jorc> Hey
#3584 [17:42] <Jorc> Whats a Tree Farm?
#3585 [17:43] <L551> An area specifically for growing trees
#3586 [17:43] <lyude> cial, what if you want to connect to a server?
#3587 [17:43] <lyude> NewMilenium o_O
#3588 [17:43] <NewMilenium> Never mind with my last sentence; it works
#3589 [17:43] <NewMilenium> Never mind
#3590 [17:43] <lyude> oh
#3591 [17:43] <Jorc> Whats the best conditions for one? Or what do you do to make one?
#3592 [17:43] <NewMilenium> hosts file works.
#3593 [17:43] <lyude> ok
#3594 [17:43] <lyude> I was gonna be like das mad
#3595 [17:43] <NewMilenium> Good luck everybody! And thanks again GreyVulpine
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#3599 [17:44] <d3l3t3> hey guys
#3600 [17:45] <Nafosh> heyya
#3601 [17:45] <d3l3t3> im thinking about buying this game but i was wondering a few things
#3602 [17:45] <d3l3t3> 1. when you buy it do the graphics get better?
#3603 [17:45] <d3l3t3> 2. is there anything to do besides killing sheep?
#3604 [17:45] <Nafosh> No, but you can always install 3rd party texture packs
#3605 [17:45] <Nafosh> Tons
#3606 [17:46] <Nafosh> Really thats all I can say on what to do because theres really so much
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#3608 [17:46] <Jorc> D3l3t3 - 1. No, 2. The game has no objective, all you can do in it is build
#3609 [17:47] <Jorc> But when I say all you can do is build
#3610 [17:47] <Nafosh> and explore
#3611 [17:47] <d3l3t3> yeah i figured it would be okay i guess
#3612 [17:47] <Blue_Star> mob spawner didnt work...anyone with the same prob ?
#3613 [17:47] <Jorc> It sounds so dull when I say it like that - but the building is very complex, all the crafting you have to do and all that. Its REALLY fun
#3614 [17:47] <d3l3t3> its not as good as black ops or anything then?
#3615 [17:47] <Jorc> You cant compare it to black ops lol
#3616 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Not even the same genre of games
#3617 [17:48] <jonas_747> hi, im trying to create a minecraft server, i have no firewalls on, i am directly hooked up to my modem and still get cant bind port. i cant find anything about it anywhere. is there someone here that know a sullution?
#3618 [17:48] <Jorc> Personally, I enjoy Minecraft more than call of duty, but I enjoy these kindof games and not so much 1st person shooters.
#3619 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> And Black ops sucked.
#3620 [17:48] <Jorc> Anyway
#3621 [17:48] <d3l3t3> black ops is so much better
#3622 [17:48] <d3l3t3> graphics are so good
#3623 [17:48] <d3l3t3> compared to this
#3624 [17:48] <d3l3t3> these are like doom graphics
#3625 [17:48] * GreyVulpine yawns
#3625 [17:48] <Jorc> Yes but
#3626 [17:48] <Nafosh> eeer
#3627 [17:48] <Jorc> The gameplay of Minecraft makes up for the graphics
#3628 [17:49] <Jorc> and tbh I think the graphics suit the game.
#3629 [17:49] <Nafosh> Well it doesn't hold a candle to battletoads amirite?
#3630 [17:49] <Jorc> But yeah, I was going to ask:
#3631 [17:49] <d3l3t3> killing sheep with blocks just isnt my thing i guess
#3632 [17:49] * GreyVulpine loves it when people equate graphics to gameplay
#3632 [17:49] <Nafosh> well you get to punch trees
#3633 [17:49] <Jorc> Are tree farms just when people plants loads of trees in one place? Or is there something more to it?
#3634 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Yes jorc.
#3635 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> the former
#3636 [17:49] <jonas_747> please do someone know why i get the cant bind port message? all firewalls are off and i am directly hooked up to my modem
#3637 [17:49] <d3l3t3> you can plant trees?
#3638 [17:49] <Jorc> Can you explain what they are then?
#3639 [17:50] <d3l3t3> is it like farmville then?
#3640 [17:50] <Jorc> And yeah delete.. You can do so much. Nothing like farmville
#3641 [17:50] <d3l3t3> can you water my trees or no?
#3642 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> d3l3t3 - http://www.minecraftwiki.net
#3643 [17:50] <Jorc> d3l3t3 you can enter dangerous underground dungeons filled with monsters, look for lava to find diamond and obsidian
#3644 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> Go there, read what minecraft is.
#3645 [17:51] <d3l3t3> what can you do with the diamonds though
#3646 [17:51] <Jorc> GreyVulpine can you explain what a tree farm is then?
#3647 [17:51] <GuybrushThreepwood> diamond and obsidian are located around lava?
#3648 [17:51] <Jorc> please :)
#3649 [17:51] <d3l3t3> do you use diamonds to kill more sheep
#3650 [17:51] <d3l3t3> ?
#3651 [17:51] <Jorc> Obsidian is made from lava and water springs being close together
#3652 [17:51] <GuybrushThreepwood> oh
#3653 [17:51] <Jorc> And diamond spawns around lava so yea
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#3655 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Jorc - It's basically people planting trees artificially, to get more wood
#3656 [17:51] <mistenkt> HAI I LIEK TO MINECRAFTS
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#3658 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Either outside, or underground/inside
#3659 [17:51] <d3l3t3> ehh
#3660 [17:51] <Kealper> that was NOT the window i wanted to close lol
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#3662 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> d3l3t3 - Are you trying to sound ignorant here?
#3663 [17:52] <d3l3t3> no
#3664 [17:52] <d3l3t3> im just trying to understand
#3665 [17:52] <d3l3t3> sorry if im coming across rudely
#3666 [17:52] <Kealper> d3l3t3 is trolling
#3667 [17:52] <Jorc> I read something and someone said "Wiki says 8 blocks down for tree farms, but I tried 6 and it was fine" - why do they plant the seedlings 6 blocks down instead of just on normal flat land?
#3668 [17:52] * GuybrushThreepwood slaps d3l3t3 around a bit with a large trout
#3668 [17:52] <d3l3t3> the only thing ive found to do was kill sheep
#3669 [17:52] <d3l3t3> with blocks i find
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#3671 [17:53] * lyude misses her slap command D:
#3671 [17:53] * lyude uses xchat now
#3671 [17:53] <Jorc> for the record you dont harm the sheep with your blocks, they dont increase damage :b
#3672 [17:53] <d3l3t3> i just think you guys buy minecraft for 15 bucks
#3673 [17:53] <d3l3t3> because you cant afford black ops
#3674 [17:53] <Kealper> TIL lyude is a chick
#3675 [17:53] <Jorc> So its the same as punching them
#3676 [17:53] <d3l3t3> or halo
#3677 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> d3l3t3 - Minecraft is what you make of it, it has no set goals
#3678 [17:53] <lyude> d3l3t3, black ops lol
#3679 [17:53] <jonas_747> as i said, i am trying to set up my server but i get the cant bind port message. and again all firewalls are off, no antivirus, and directly hooked up to my modem what can i do?
#3680 [17:53] <lyude> Ever seen the xbox black ops community?
#3681 [17:53] <d3l3t3> im part of it
#3682 [17:53] <Nafosh> huehuehuehue I troll u
#3683 [17:53] <lyude> I feel sorry for you then
#3684 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> d3l3t3 - Please go back to black ops then, and brag about your l33t skills there.
#3685 [17:53] <d3l3t3> black ops has better graphics
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#3687 [17:53] <Jorc> go there then
#3688 [17:53] <lyude> We don't put up with gamers who scream at their TV's all day :P
#3689 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Because Awesome graphics = awesome gameplay
#3690 [17:54] <d3l3t3> minecrafts graphics are like doom
#3691 [17:54] <d3l3t3> or castlevania
#3692 [17:54] <Kaldiin> hi people
#3693 [17:54] <Nafosh> Hi
#3694 [17:54] <Jorc> Okay go away then
#3695 [17:54] <d3l3t3> no realistic lighting and stuff
#3696 [17:54] <d3l3t3> im not trying to be mean
#3697 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Couldn't care less
#3698 [17:54] <lyude> d3l3t3, I'll laugh at your future red ring
#3699 [17:54] <Kealper> jesus fuck someone kick it
#3700 [17:54] <d3l3t3> im just trying to understand here
#3701 [17:54] <Kaldiin> do any of you know how to reset a minecraft server on windows?
#3702 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> No, you're just trolling now
#3703 [17:54] <d3l3t3> im a minecraft player too
#3704 [17:54] <d3l3t3> i played the classic version
#3705 [17:54] <Kaldiin> i keep finding help for macs
#3706 [17:54] <d3l3t3> and kind of enjoyed it
#3707 [17:54] <lyude> Classic sucks o_o
#3708 [17:54] <Jorc> @GreyVulpine mind answering my question by the way?
#3709 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Jorc - About?
#3710 [17:54] <d3l3t3> what is different in the full version lyude
#3711 [17:55] <lyude> Kaldiin, can you access the server's terminal
#3712 [17:55] <d3l3t3> do the graphics get updated?
#3713 [17:55] <Jorc> I read something and someone said "Wiki says 8 blocks down for tree farms, but I tried 6 and it was fine" - why do they plant the seedlings 6 blocks down instead of just on normal flat land?
#3714 [17:55] <lyude> Well, you don't have a crappy limit on how high you go, there's actual challenge added to the game
#3715 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Jorc - They mean, have 6 blocks of overhead clearance for the sapling to grow
#3716 [17:55] <lyude> There's tons more materials
#3717 [17:55] <Jorc> We dont know d3l3t3, its just entered beta. Personally I dont care for its graphics, I think its current ones suit them
#3718 [17:55] <Kaldiin> does somebody know how to reset a server map on windows?
#3719 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Kaldiin - Delete the /world/ folder
#3720 [17:55] <Jorc> Grey - Oh so me just digging 6 blocks down then planting a sapling wont actually do anything then? :b
#3721 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Jorc - No.
#3722 [17:55] <NinjaKirby> Does anyone else report stuttering/reduced FPS with the latest patch?
#3723 [17:56] <Kaldiin> where would that be found?
#3724 [17:56] <Jorc> I see, thanks
#3725 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Kaldiin - Wherever you have your minecraft server
#3726 [17:56] <Jorc> NinjaKirby - yep I do
#3727 [17:56] <d3l3t3> how long does it take for your tree to grow
#3728 [17:56] <NinjaKirby> Okay, not just me then :3
#3729 [17:56] <Kealper> a fwe days
#3730 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> d3l3t3 - all your questions can be answered by going to the wiki
#3731 [17:56] <Kealper> few*
#3732 [17:56] <Kaldiin> i have the server.jar open, but it just as a-z.class
#3733 [17:56] <Jorc> a random amount of time
#3734 [17:56] <d3l3t3> i dont like wikis
#3735 [17:56] <Jorc> is how long it takes
#3736 [17:56] <d3l3t3> they arent accurate
#3737 [17:56] <Kaldiin> there isnt a world folder
#3738 [17:56] <d3l3t3> because anyone can edit it
#3739 [17:57] <Jorc> there isnt a set time for the trees to grow, its random
#3740 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Kaldiin - There should be, when you first launch it
#3741 [17:57] <jonas_747> comeon some help, please? i am desperatly trying to set up my server. all myfirewalls are off no antiviros, directly hooked up to my modem. and still i get cant bind port message.do someone know a sulotion?
#3742 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Are you running classic or alpha Kealper
#3743 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> er
#3744 [17:57] <lyude> d3l3t3, half of kmy school projects use wikipedia. I've noticed it happens to be the best source
#3745 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> damnit
#3746 [17:57] <Kealper> XD
#3747 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Kaldiin
#3748 [17:57] <lyude> There isn't some group of people intent on making wiki's innacurate
#3749 [17:57] <d3l3t3> i feel sorry for your school then
#3750 [17:57] <Rambo1369> flood problem
#3751 [17:57] <Rambo1369> ahahh
#3752 [17:57] <d3l3t3> my school doesnt allow wikipedia as a source
#3753 [17:57] <NinjaKirby> Plus, #minecraftwiki instantly pick up on edits thanks to their bot
#3754 [17:57] <Jorc> @Grey - Also, will my sapling grow if I just plant it on one single block of dirt?
#3755 [17:57] <NinjaKirby> Seem to catch every dodgey change instantly
#3756 [17:57] <lyude> Neither does mine, but they don't care because all my stuff is still accurate
#3757 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Jorc - Yes, as long as you have clearance, and light
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#3759 [17:58] <Jorc> With no other dirt around it
#3760 [17:58] <Jorc> Ah okay thankyou
#3761 [17:58] <lyude> Anyway, my school's really damn awesome. There are people who move here just because of how good of a school it is
#3762 [17:58] <username17> jonas_747, that issue is incredibly common. And most people, myself included, are too tired to offer any help beyond rtfm.
#3763 [17:58] <ArmEagle> so, do falling leaves work yet?
#3764 [17:58] <Kaldiin> i am running alpha
#3765 [17:58] <ArmEagle> and if so, how quickly do they fall?
#3766 [17:58] <Kaldiin> alpha server
#3767 [17:58] <Kaldiin> ar beta lol
#3768 [17:58] <GuybrushThreepwood> do the trees change color in the fall time
#3769 [17:58] <d3l3t3> are there guns in minecraft
#3770 [17:58] <ArmEagle> ohh. maybe i should have just waited just a minute longer :)
#3771 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Kaldiin - Then when you run minecraft_server.jar, you should've also seen it generate a bunch more files and folders
#3772 [17:58] <lyude> There are no guns
#3773 [17:58] <Kyle> I need help on how to buy Minecraft by using a visa gift card, Any ideas/ Help?
#3774 [17:59] <jonas_747> okay then i guess there is no sullution, well i can try to change isp and see if that helpes. thanks anyways bye!
#3775 [17:59] <lyude> There's an bow that fires like a minigun however
#3776 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> No d3l3t3
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#3779 [17:59] <jaek> hello can anyone recomend a good mature server for survival multiplayer
#3780 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> d3l3t3 - If you don't require help, I recommend #minecraft for your questions
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#3783 [17:59] <peru_> there is mod with guns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh3l33CVWpE
#3784 [17:59] <Kyle> I need help on how to buy Minecraft by using a visa gift card, Any ideas/ Help?
#3785 [17:59] <d3l3t3> alright cool
#3786 [17:59] <d3l3t3> thanks man
#3787 [17:59] <mr_fribble> why does beta keep crashing? even my personal offline copy
#3788 [17:59] <cardboardphone> im a new player looking for fun builds
#3789 [17:59] <Kaldiin> the only folders are Meta-inf and net
#3790 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Kaldiin - No, you don't look in the .minecraft folder
#3791 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Are you running the serveR?
#3792 [18:00] <Kaldiin> no
#3793 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Do you have minecraft_server.jar?
#3794 [18:00] <Kaldiin> it isnt up atm
#3795 [18:00] <Kaldiin> yea
#3796 [18:00] <Kaldiin> that is what im looking at
#3797 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Did you run minecraft_server.jar?
#3798 [18:00] <mr_fribble> me? no, just my desktop copy
#3799 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> You don't look inside the .jar file
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#3801 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> when you run it, it generates more files
#3802 [18:01] <Kaldiin> it has been running but i stopped it to figure this out
#3803 [18:01] <Kaldiin> should it be running?
#3804 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Kaldiin - Then look in the same directory where you have minecraft_server.jar
#3805 [18:01] <Kealper> to play on it, yes lol
#3806 [18:01] <Jorc> Seriously your taste in games must be so damn terrible if everything you play HAS to have guns in :P
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#3808 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Do you see the /world/ folder?
#3809 [18:02] <Kaldiin> no
#3810 [18:02] <Kealper> Jorc: he was just a troll
#3811 [18:02] <Jorc> yea, figured :b
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#3813 [18:02] * Kealper can smell trolls a mile away 50 feet underground
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#3816 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Kaldiin - Um. okay. Did you download minecraft_server.jar in its own directory?
#3817 [18:03] <Kaldiin> what?
#3818 [18:04] <Kaldiin> here wait
#3819 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Is minecraft_server.jar in a directory by itself?
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#3821 [18:04] <Kaldiin> directory
#3822 [18:04] <Kaldiin> ?
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#3824 [18:04] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3824 [18:04] <Kealper> not sure if troll
#3825 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> I'm not speaking some foreign language here, right?
#3826 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Is it in a folder by itself?
#3827 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Where is minecraft_server.jar located on your system?
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#3829 [18:05] <Kaldiin> it isnt in its own folder
#3830 [18:05] <Kaldiin> brb
#3831 [18:06] <Zw> what is the "lost connection: disconnect.overflow" ? Any way to fix?
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#3835 [18:07] <Kealper> Zw: if i had to guess, it means buffer overflow, which means either the client or the server was lagging so bad that it recieved more data than it could handle
#3836 [18:08] <Kealper> so....
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#3838 [18:08] <Kaldiin> should it be in it's own folder?
#3839 [18:08] <Kealper> is said user who DCed on really bad internet?
#3840 [18:08] <Kealper> yes Kaldiin
#3841 [18:08] <Kaldiin> ok
#3842 [18:08] <Kaldiin> where do you reccomend i put it?
#3843 [18:09] <Kealper> doesn't matter where, just as long as it's in it's own folder
#3844 [18:09] <Kaldiin> right now it is in appdata>local>temp
#3845 [18:09] <Kealper> not sure.....if....troll....
#3846 [18:10] <Kealper> move it out of that folder....just...make a folder on your desktop called Minecraft Server
#3847 [18:10] <Kealper> and put it in there -.-
#3848 [18:10] <Kaldiin> k
#3849 [18:10] <NinjaKirby> lol...
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#3851 [18:10] <Kaldiin> ok
#3852 [18:11] <Kaldiin> now what?
#3853 [18:11] <Kealper> run the server
#3854 [18:11] <Kealper> it'll say stuff like can't locate files and such, but it will create them and then generate a random world
#3855 [18:11] <Kaldiin> ok
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#3858 [18:12] <Kaldiin> it didnt say anything like that :(
#3859 [18:12] <Kealper> O.o
#3860 [18:12] <Kealper> what'd it say?
#3861 [18:12] <Kealper> (summary, don't paste it into here)
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#3863 [18:13] <Kaldiin> same thing it always does
#3864 [18:13] <Kealper> and that would be?
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#3867 [18:14] <JamesHarrison> Is anyone here seeing quite poor server performance lately, very odd network behaviour meaning some clients get no lag and others get 2-10 seconds latency on everything, on a 100Mbps well-peered box with 8 gigs of RAM? The lag happens even with only one person on the server, 200MB worldfile
#3868 [18:14] <Kaldiin> loading properties starting minecraft server on *:25565 preparing level "world" Preparing start region Done! for help, type "help" or "?"
#3869 [18:14] <Kealper> JamesHarrison: it might be the 200mb world lol
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#3872 [18:14] <Kealper> O.o
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#3874 [18:15] <Kealper> is there any new files inside the same folder as the server?
#3875 [18:15] <Kealper> and a folder called world?
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#3877 [18:15] <MMavipc> Anyone not on my LAN keeps getting disconnected from my server
#3878 [18:15] <Kaldiin> the server isnt in a folder, it is on my desktop
#3879 [18:15] <MMavipc> [INFO] jinxxex lost connection: disconnect.overflow
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#3881 [18:15] <Kealper> ok then....is there a bunch of new files and a folder on your desktop?
#3882 [18:16] <Kaldiin> OHHHHHHH! ok, lol i see it XD
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#3884 [18:16] <Kaldiin> just delete the whole folder?
#3885 [18:16] <Kealper> no......
#3886 [18:16] * Kealper gives up
#3886 [18:16] <Kealper> if you can't understand this, you should not be hosting a server anyways
#3887 [18:17] <JamesHarrison> Kealper: The lag came in pretty instantly; one moment it was fine, next moment completely unplayable for about half the users
#3888 [18:17] <Kaldiin> what do i delete?
#3889 [18:17] <Kaldiin> the world folder?
#3890 [18:17] <Kealper> JamesHarrison: weird...i really don't know
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#3892 [18:17] <Kealper> Kaldiin: point me to the line that said you had to delete something....
#3893 [18:17] <Kealper> ok then. there was none.
#3894 [18:18] <Kealper> you're really looking like a troll right now to me
#3895 [18:18] <JamesHarrison> Kealper: Damn. I've been poking the server with strace all day and I'm getting nowhere. Noticed Notch's update doing a lot less saving, but there's nothing glaringly wrong as far as I can see with the tools I've got.
#3896 [18:18] <Kaldiin> <@GreyVulpine> Kaldiin - delete the /world/ folder
#3897 [18:19] <Kaldiin> is that good enough?
#3898 [18:19] <Kealper> i meant where i said to delete something
#3899 [18:19] <Kaldiin> oh
#3900 [18:19] <Kaldiin> well what do i do with the world folder?
#3901 [18:19] <Kealper> leave it there
#3902 [18:19] <Kaldiin> then why did i have to find it?
#3903 [18:19] <Kealper> because it's important?
#3904 [18:20] <Kaldiin> then what do i do?
#3905 [18:20] <Kealper> if your server is running...join it
#3906 [18:20] <Kaldiin> ok
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#3908 [18:20] <Kaldiin> im in
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#3910 [18:21] <Kaldiin> now what?
#3911 [18:21] <Kealper> ok...problem solved then?
#3912 [18:21] <Fireheart> i bought a code instead of the game how do i activate the code to play?
#3913 [18:21] <Kaldiin> no
#3914 [18:21] <Kaldiin> i wanted to reset my map
#3915 [18:21] <Kealper> oh
#3916 [18:21] <Kealper> damnit
#3917 [18:21] <Kaldiin> rofl
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#3919 [18:21] <Fireheart> anyone can help me?
#3920 [18:21] <Kealper> stop server, delete that precious world folder, start server, it'll generate a new one
#3921 [18:21] <Kaldiin> ok thx
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#3923 [18:21] <Djbberko> Fireheart where did you buy it from
#3924 [18:21] <Kealper> Fireheart: maybe
#3925 [18:22] <Kealper> Fireheart: there is a special link, 1 sec
#3926 [18:22] <Fireheart> from the site
#3927 [18:22] <Kealper> http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#3928 [18:23] <Fireheart> thanks a ton it worked :D
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#3934 [18:24] <manzo> help lz?
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#3936 [18:24] <Kealper> with?
#3937 [18:24] <manzo> when i try to run minecraft
#3938 [18:24] <manzo> i get stuck on the "mojang spefications" screen
#3939 [18:24] <manzo> its not a problem i had before
#3940 [18:24] <Kealper> how long have you let it sit at that screen?
#3941 [18:24] <manzo> it just started recently
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#3943 [18:24] <manzo> a couple minutes
#3944 [18:24] <Kealper> have you restarted your computer?
#3945 [18:24] <Unborn> yooo
#3946 [18:25] <Unborn> i have a question
#3947 [18:25] <manzo> no i have not
#3948 [18:25] <Kealper> try that
#3949 [18:25] <Kealper> yes Unborn?
#3950 [18:25] <Unborn> when i play sp
#3951 [18:25] <Djbberko> Manzo its a bug
#3952 [18:25] <Djbberko> Kealper its a villbug from the beta
#3953 [18:25] <Djbberko> Mandolin wait till tommorow notch will update
#3954 [18:25] <Unborn> can i save it?
#3955 [18:25] <Djbberko> Yea
#3956 [18:25] <Unborn> cause i play on lots of pcs
#3957 [18:25] <Unborn> and im just wasting time..
#3958 [18:25] <Kealper> Djbberko: orly?
#3959 [18:25] <Djbberko> Not online
#3960 [18:25] <manzo> i'll come back if restartind doesn't help
#3961 [18:25] <Unborn> Keapler pl0x
#3962 [18:25] <Djbberko> Kealper. Yea he said that he's working on it
#3963 [18:26] <Kealper> Unborn: there is a way to move it, but it's annoying
#3964 [18:26] <Kealper> your save, that is
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#3967 [18:26] <Unborn> so the time ive been playing on my other pc is just time wasted?
#3968 [18:26] <Moehtr> hey guys, i need some help!
#3969 [18:26] <Kealper> the savegames are made up of a TON of little files and folders, so it takes a while to move
#3970 [18:26] <Unborn> ooh
#3971 [18:26] <Kealper> yes Moehtr
#3972 [18:26] <Unborn> When can i start playing the mp version?
#3973 [18:27] <Unborn> since the server dont have a mod to use..
#3974 [18:27] <Kealper> Unborn: if you'd like to check out where the saves are stored, look in %appdata%\.minecraft
#3975 [18:27] <Unborn> Thanks
#3976 [18:27] <Moehtr> Well, i bought the game before beta came out, and i understood that it had more game mods including infdev and whatnot, and basically i paid for it so i would have the gamemodes, but i didnt get anything.
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#3979 [18:28] <Kealper> Moehtr: indev and infdev were development testing things that were merged together to create Alpha
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#3981 [18:28] <Kealper> and as of today, Alpha is now Beta
#3982 [18:28] <Unborn> When can i start playing the mp version?
#3983 [18:28] <Unborn> since the server dont have a mod to use..
#3984 [18:28] <FireBlade624> hi does anyone know how to get rid of monsters on a minecraft server?
#3985 [18:29] <Unborn> Peaceful mode
#3986 [18:29] <Moehtr> yeah, but it should come with survival and creative and stuff, shouldnt it?
#3987 [18:29] <Kealper> Unborn: servers do not need mods to run, you can just play one without them
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#3989 [18:29] <Kealper> FireBlade624: open your server's server.properties and set monsters to false
#3990 [18:29] <FireBlade624> ok thx
#3991 [18:29] <Moehtr> okay, well thanks for your help Kealper
#3992 [18:29] <Moehtr> :)
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#3998 [18:30] <Kealper> Moehtr: the paid-for one is Survival, with plans to add more game modes
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#4000 [18:30] <manzo> :|
#4001 [18:30] <manzo> problem not solved
#4002 [18:30] <manzo> by restarting
#4003 [18:30] <manzo> I am still stuck
#4004 [18:30] <FireBlade624> hmmmm
#4005 [18:31] <manzo> I heard it was a bug of sorts
#4006 [18:31] <Kealper> yea, i was told that it is actually a bug caused by today's update, it should be fixed when Notch gets up
#4007 [18:31] <manzo> (Y)
#4008 [18:31] <FireBlade624> it says the archive is either in unknown format or damaged
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#4010 [18:31] <manzo> thanks
#4011 [18:31] <FireBlade624> when i try to open it up
#4012 [18:31] <Kealper> FireBlade624: uhh....open it with Notepad
#4013 [18:31] <FireBlade624> ok
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#4015 [18:31] <Kealper> easiest way is just to open a blank Notepad window and then drag the file into the window
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#4024 [18:39] <KART35|iPod> so
#4025 [18:40] <KART35|iPod> anyone here ever tried to get a proper jvm on an itouch or iphone?
#4026 [18:40] <Kealper> ..........lol
#4027 [18:40] <Kealper> i doubt that will succeed....lol
#4028 [18:40] <KART35|iPod> ive tried using the one from cydia, but its missing a library
#4029 [18:40] <KART35|iPod> libgtkpeer to be specific
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#4036 [18:45] <Woodsy> was linux server updated to beta? (i ask because the linux server download from minecraft.net seems to be incompatible with beta client)
#4037 [18:45] <Kealper> are you sure you downloaded the correct one?
#4038 [18:46] <Woodsy> well there's only one link for a linux server?
#4039 [18:46] <Woodsy> http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1292888743749
#4040 [18:46] <Kealper> uhh... when did you download it?
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#4042 [18:47] <Woodsy> 5 mins 37 secs ago
#4043 [18:48] <Kealper> hmm....well, that jar is the same for all OSes, and mine works fine...
#4044 [18:48] <Kealper> are you sure the server was stopped, and it copied ok?
#4045 [18:49] <Woodsy> rm -f minecraft_server.jar
#4046 [18:49] <Woodsy> wget + url abov
#4047 [18:49] <Woodsy> so sure it hurts
#4048 [18:49] <Kealper> hmmmmmmmm.........
#4049 [18:49] <Kealper> no idea why it's failing then
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#4051 [18:50] <Woodsy> kk backtrack.. whats the beta server version number and can you confirm that link
#4052 [18:50] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar should get you the latest, and lemme check the version
#4053 [18:51] <peru_> darn it.. update downloaded itself, and now minecraft crashes at loading
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#4055 [18:51] <Woodsy> 0.2.7 reported from your link Kealper
#4056 [18:51] <Kealper> O.o
#4057 [18:52] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1292888784494 then?
#4058 [18:52] <Kealper> 2010-12-20 15:43:15 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.0
#4059 [18:53] <Woodsy> strange
#4060 [18:54] <Kealper> are you sure it's not downloading a cached copy?
#4061 [18:54] <Woodsy> that link you provided did a miss on squid
#4062 [18:54] <Woodsy> so it definately downloaded
#4063 [18:55] <Jorc> Is there ALWAYS diamond near lava?
#4064 [18:56] <Kealper> it couldn't have downloaded a new copy
#4065 [18:56] <Kealper> i just downloaded that same jar without the timestamp on it, ran it, and it's the latest
#4066 [18:56] <Kealper> squid.... :S
#4067 [18:57] <Kealper> i do believe that to be said issue here
#4068 [18:57] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/o828qj87qhjwke.jar
#4069 [18:58] <Woodsy> wget --no-proxy replicates 0.2.7
#4070 [18:58] <Kealper> that's the server, renamed so there is no chance of caching, tell me when it's downloaded so i can delete it lol
#4071 [18:58] <Kealper> that link with the random name from my site is 100% confirmed latest version
#4072 [18:58] <Woodsy> done
#4073 [18:59] <Woodsy> 0.2.7 rofl
#4074 [18:59] <Woodsy> somethings overriding it
#4075 [18:59] <Kealper> bullshit you are starting the wrong one :S
#4076 [18:59] <Kealper> or deleting the wrong one
#4077 [19:00] <peru_> so... this beta update is causing crash at loading java.nio.BufferOverflowException
#4078 [19:00] <peru_> is this happening for anyone else?
#4079 [19:01] <Kealper> lots of people
#4080 [19:01] <Kealper> i have not seen it myself, but others have
#4081 [19:01] <Kealper> expect a bugfix when Notch wakes up
#4082 [19:01] <peru_> ok gr8
#4083 [19:01] <peru_> thx
#4084 [19:01] <Woodsy> interesting, copied world to vanilla directory, same java line == fixed
#4085 [19:02] <Kealper> o.o
#4086 [19:02] <Kealper> i should really delete my server.log...it's like 6mb lol
#4087 [19:02] <Woodsy> something in hey0 kept running i see
#4088 [19:02] <Woodsy> grr
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#4090 [19:03] <Woodsy> ta for your help Kealper
#4091 [19:03] <Kealper> oh....uhh....hey0 does not work with the latest version btw
#4092 [19:03] <Woodsy> indeed
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#4094 [19:04] <Woodsy> and i cbf'd downgrading client, so i will run beta until they fix ;p
#4095 [19:04] <Woodsy> curious to test overflow issue too
#4096 [19:04] <Kealper> i have yet to see any of those on my server :S
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#4099 [19:05] <Woodsy> Kealper linux?
#4100 [19:05] <Kealper> windows
#4101 [19:05] <Kealper> because i'm a boss like that lol
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#4104 [19:07] <Ragemar> Hello
#4105 [19:07] <Kealper> hello
#4106 [19:08] <Ragemar> I got a question if anyone could answer it
#4107 [19:08] <Kealper> maybe
#4108 [19:08] <Ragemar> I want to run a server for me and some friends
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#4110 [19:08] <Ragemar> but the one I download is just a build alot version and not the one where you have weapons and "farm your mats"
#4111 [19:08] <Kealper> Ragemar: gimme 5 sec, i'll link you the correct one
#4112 [19:09] <Ragemar> Thanks
#4113 [19:09] <Kealper> did you want the exe or the jar?
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#4115 [19:09] <Ragemar> jar is fine
#4116 [19:09] <Kealper> exe is easier, jar is more customizable
#4117 [19:09] <Kealper> ok
#4118 [19:09] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1292890146820
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#4120 [19:10] <Kealper> you'll have to delete the other server's stuff (config, world, etc) first though
#4121 [19:10] <Kealper> they are not compatible with the beta server
#4122 [19:10] * Kealper grabs a glass of Sprite
#4122 [19:10] <Ragemar> Thanks again
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#4133 [19:21] <Krogulec> Halla
#4134 [19:21] <Kealper> O.o
#4135 [19:22] <Krogulec> Any one knows why minecraft is not vista compatible ?
#4136 [19:22] <Kealper> it is vista-compatible
#4137 [19:22] <Kealper> what problem are you running in to?
#4138 [19:22] <Krogulec> BSOD
#4139 [19:22] <Kealper> o.o
#4140 [19:22] <Kealper> what does the bsod say?
#4141 [19:23] <Krogulec> Nothing it's just Black Screen Of Doom
#4142 [19:23] <L551> WhoCrashed is a good program for finding what caused a BSOD
#4143 [19:23] <Kealper> oh....i thought you meant blue screen of death lol
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#4145 [19:23] <Krogulec> oh no no xD
#4146 [19:23] <Kealper> Krogulec: do you have the latest drivers/java?
#4147 [19:23] <Krogulec> WhoCrashed is for crashes aminotrite ?
#4148 [19:24] <Krogulec> Yes sir!
#4149 [19:24] <Kealper> hmmmmmmm....
#4150 [19:24] <Kealper> Krogulec: do you know how to run minecraft from a batch file?
#4151 [19:24] <Krogulec> you mean .java?
#4152 [19:24] <Krogulec> or sumething like that....
#4153 [19:25] <Kealper> well...sort of, yea, running the .jar with a .bat file
#4154 [19:25] <Krogulec> this is what i did
#4155 [19:25] <Krogulec> oh wait..
#4156 [19:25] <Kealper> also, does it work in the browser?
#4157 [19:25] <Krogulec> I've runned it from jar file...
#4158 [19:25] <Krogulec> nope
#4159 [19:25] <Kealper> have you restarted your computer lately?
#4160 [19:25] <Krogulec> not at all...
#4161 [19:26] <Krogulec> Indeed
#4162 [19:26] <Krogulec> i did full reboot
#4163 [19:26] <Kealper> hmm....this might not be good then
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#4165 [19:26] <Kealper> has it worked before?
#4166 [19:26] <Krogulec> Well... I'm getting myself Windows 7 this may repair smthng...
#4167 [19:27] <Krogulec> Not at all only WoM is working (World of Minecraft)
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#4169 [19:27] <Katanu> Hey, could someone do me a favor?
#4170 [19:27] <Kealper> oh, if you are already planning on reinstalling windows, then my suggestion won't be painful
#4171 [19:27] <lyude> <L551> WhoCrashed is a good program for finding what caused a BSOD
#4172 [19:27] <lyude> Or
#4173 [19:27] <Kealper> because you'll probably have to reinstall windows to fix it lol
#4174 [19:27] <lyude> Just disable the stupid Reboot on BSOD thingh
#4175 [19:27] <Kealper> yes Katanu?
#4176 [19:27] <lyude> And write down the code
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#4178 [19:27] <Katanu> I need help with two things:
#4179 [19:28] <Katanu> first off... minecraft smp related...
#4180 [19:28] <Kealper> lyude: that's much too hard to do for most people lol
#4181 [19:28] <Krogulec> Yeah i think that's the best thing to do i did absolutelly everything that is in my "skill" to make it work..
#4182 [19:28] <Katanu> some servers are working, but when i try to run mine, my friends connect then automatically disconnect. do you know how to fix it
#4183 [19:28] <Kealper> what does it say in your server console? and can you play on it fine?
#4184 [19:29] <Katanu> i can play on it fine yes.
#4185 [19:29] <Katanu> and hold on let me check the logs
#4186 [19:29] <Krogulec> Guyz what was changed in Beta version ?
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#4188 [19:29] <Kealper> a bit
#4189 [19:29] <cardboardphone> hey when you leave a game does it save your inventory?
#4190 [19:29] <Katanu> [INFO] ***** [/5.1.96.20:64673] logged in with entity id 13 2010-12-20 16:48:10 [INFO] ***** lost connection: disconnect.overflow 2010-12-20 16:48:11
#4191 [19:30] <Katanu> i blocked out his name
#4192 [19:30] <Kealper> yes cardboardphone
#4193 [19:30] <cardboardphone> okay thanks
#4194 [19:30] <Krogulec> Hanging a Mistletoe from your belly button to get blowjobs at christmas.
#4195 [19:30] <Krogulec> mwahahahah xD
#4196 [19:30] <Krogulec> Sorry i had to copy it xD
#4197 [19:30] <Kealper> Katanu: that's a bug that should be fixed when Notch wakes up
#4198 [19:30] <Kealper> and lol Krogulec
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#4200 [19:30] <Katanu> alright thanks.
#4201 [19:31] <Katanu> another thing, dont know if i can ask here... but i'll try
#4202 [19:31] <Katanu> I'm making a lets play and i need a banner for the beginning and end of it. Could anyone help?
#4203 [19:31] <Kealper> i'd say yes, but my photo-editing skills kind of suck
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#4205 [19:31] <Katanu> :P
#4206 [19:31] <Katanu> I really need one haha
#4207 [19:31] <Krogulec> Another thing... WTF are SHELL's ?
#4208 [19:32] <Kealper> shells? where did you see that at?
#4209 [19:32] <Krogulec> HakerForums.com..
#4210 [19:32] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/b/Yoshi.png is about the limits of my abilities lol
#4211 [19:32] <Katanu> kealper
#4212 [19:32] <Katanu> haha
#4213 [19:32] <Kealper> Krogulec: then they are probably referring to the "cmd" windows
#4214 [19:32] <Katanu> thats good enough :D
#4215 [19:32] <Katanu> have a skype?
#4216 [19:32] <Kealper> oh, well then lol
#4217 [19:33] <Kealper> i do, but i rarely log in to it
#4218 [19:33] <Krogulec> What do they do ? :F
#4219 [19:33] <Katanu> it will do for first couple episodes
#4220 [19:33] <Katanu> can you get on it?
#4221 [19:33] * Kealper sighs
#4221 [19:33] <Katanu> so we can talk or something about it :P
#4222 [19:33] <Katanu> :D
#4223 [19:33] <Krogulec> Cuz i've copied one saved in notepad and it vanished :F
#4224 [19:33] <Katanu> <3 <3 i'll love you forever
#4225 [19:33] <Kealper> Krogulec: depends on the operating system
#4226 [19:33] <Krogulec> ykhm...
#4227 [19:33] <Krogulec> Vista
#4228 [19:34] <Kealper> wait, speaking OSes...
#4229 [19:34] <Krogulec> <suicide>
#4230 [19:34] <Kealper> what OS were they talking about when they said shell? lol
#4231 [19:34] <Krogulec> None xD
#4232 [19:34] <Katanu> so kealper. you in?
#4233 [19:34] <Kealper> oh, then they probably mean unix shells, or terminal windows
#4234 [19:34] <Krogulec> They just gave prepared version
#4235 [19:34] <Kealper> Katanu: same name as irc
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#4237 [19:35] <Krogulec> What does it do ?
#4238 [19:35] <Kealper> unix terminal windows are quite powerful, anything you can do with the mouse and program windows can be done with typing it into a terminal window
#4239 [19:35] <Katanu> ok get on kealper
#4240 [19:35] <Krogulec> Cuz after that my Inet slowed down :/
#4241 [19:35] <Kealper> way ahead of you lol
#4242 [19:36] <Kealper> Krogulec: i doubt it was that
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#4244 [19:36] <Krogulec> Snap... Then it's useless as nothing else happend...
#4245 [19:37] <Krogulec> Oh and anyone British here ?
#4246 [19:37] <Krogulec> cuz i also have question about the BT modem...
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#4248 [19:38] <Krogulec> Talking British the tea i drunked makes me wanna piss...
#4249 [19:38] <chaoz> ;D
#4250 [19:38] <Krogulec> Bloody 4 cups of tea
#4251 [19:38] <Krogulec> 4 CUPS OD TEA !
#4252 [19:38] <Krogulec> It's like addiction :O
#4253 [19:39] <chaoz> any1 in here knows a good 6 core mobo with 2x pcie 2.0, which actually run on 16x and not on 4x? lol
#4254 [19:39] <Krogulec> I do !
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#4256 [19:39] <chaoz> then go happy ahead
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#4258 [19:40] <Krogulec> I can't she will get very angry....
#4259 [19:40] <chaoz> sad
#4260 [19:40] <mil1ion> system requirements?>?
#4261 [19:40] <chaoz> for what?
#4262 [19:40] <jobotslash> Quick question: any other servers/clients having problems with users disconnecting with the message "disconnect.overflow" ?
#4263 [19:40] <Krogulec> No I don;t know just kidiing
#4264 [19:40] <mil1ion> for the game
#4265 [19:40] <chaoz> thats if your server is out of date or the used
#4266 [19:41] <Krogulec> My IT skills end up on usage od Excel
#4267 [19:41] <Krogulec> of*
#4268 [19:41] <Krogulec> holly crap... brb
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#4270 [19:41] <jobotslash> chaoz: not out of date, I just downloaded the server .jar an hour ago.
#4271 [19:41] <norfavrell> Hey... Any developers here?
#4272 [19:42] <norfavrell> Or anyone with experience of making minecraft bots?
#4273 [19:42] <norfavrell> Or server extensions? :S
#4274 [19:42] <chaoz> Welcome to #MinecraftHelp! Please ask your question, and someone will try to answer it and help you as soon as they can! PLEASE DO NOT ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY SORT OF MODS FOR THE SERVER OR THE CLIENT! ANY QUESTION PRETAINING TO MODS WILL BE IGNORED!
#4275 [19:42] <norfavrell> Oops.. my bad sorry
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#4278 [19:43] <Krogulec> I'm back
#4279 [19:43] <Kealper> oh thank god someone actually read that
#4280 [19:43] <chaoz> i still need an a good 6 core mobo with 2x pcie 2.0, which actually run on 16x and not on 4x? lol
#4281 [19:43] <chaoz> @jobot, thats usually the problem
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#4283 [19:44] <chaoz> jobot: are you hoem hosting?
#4284 [19:44] <chaoz> a good 6 core mobo with 2x pcie 2.0, which actually run on 16x and not on 4x?
#4285 [19:44] <Krogulec> guyz... I have to return to my office... client is waiting... bloody ADHD dude...
#4286 [19:44] <Krogulec> oh well
#4287 [19:44] <Krogulec> Hav fun bb
#4288 [19:44] <chaoz> BB
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#4290 [19:45] <jobotslash> local clients (like my computer) have no problem, and when external clients use a VPN (hamachi), they connect no problem no overflow issues. It's only external users that have issues
#4291 [19:45] <jobotslash> hoem hosting?
#4292 [19:45] <jobotslash> I guess you mean home hosting
#4293 [19:45] <chaoz> yes
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#4295 [19:46] <jobotslash> I am hosting a small server for close friends out of my home, yes.
#4296 [19:46] <Foe> After the Beta update, all the alpha multiplayer servers were deemed "out of date". Is there a way to save the world and make it transferable to the new server exe?
#4297 [19:46] <chaoz> firewall?
#4298 [19:46] <chaoz> you say that local can connect
#4299 [19:46] <jobotslash> nope... was working fine before beta update
#4300 [19:46] <jobotslash> only started giving problems after I put in new jar
#4301 [19:47] <chaoz> then it might be a software problem
#4302 [19:47] <jobotslash> seems lots of people are having it ... so yeah, probably right chaoz, just software issue
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#4304 [19:48] <Con> nice, Kealper
#4305 [19:48] <Kealper> hmm?
#4306 [19:49] <Kealper> oh...nvm
#4307 [19:49] <Kealper> that
#4308 [19:49] <Kealper> is it noticable enough? lol
#4309 [19:49] <Con> Yeah
#4310 [19:49] <Con> hmm
#4311 [19:49] <Kealper> mission accomplished lol
#4312 [19:49] <chaoz> a good 6 core mobo with 2x pcie 2.0, which actually run on 16x and not on 4x?
#4313 [19:49] <chaoz> any1?
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#4315 [19:51] <Mibfag> rawrzor
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#4319 [19:54] <Kealper> magic wand tool = best thing ever on a game that has no antialiasing like MC
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#4321 [19:57] <Foe> I'm not sure if this is the right place to type the question, so I guess I'll just type it again.
#4322 [19:57] <Foe> After the Beta update, all the alpha multiplayer servers were deemed "out of date". Is there a way to save the world and make it transferable to the new server exe?
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#4328 [20:03] <bobafett1299> Hi,
#4329 [20:04] <MarserBlood> hi
#4330 [20:04] <MarserBlood> i have a problem...
#4331 [20:04] <bobafett1299> Anyone know what the secret feature is yet?
#4332 [20:04] <bobafett1299> IS it lagg related?
#4333 [20:04] <MarserBlood> no
#4334 [20:04] <bobafett1299> hm.
#4335 [20:04] <bobafett1299> that the only issue im having, but i might be able to help you
#4336 [20:04] <MarserBlood> when somebody connects to my server he gets the following:
#4337 [20:04] <bobafett1299> even though im NOT ACTUALLY a mod
#4338 [20:05] <bobafett1299> Oh. youll have to update your serve.
#4339 [20:05] <bobafett1299> server.
#4340 [20:05] <MarserBlood> java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort
#4341 [20:05] <Con> soft serve
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#4343 [20:05] <bobafett1299> its happening with my SMP favorite
#4344 [20:05] <bobafett1299> youll need to redownload the server stuff.
#4345 [20:05] <MarserBlood> i updated it an hour ago?
#4346 [20:05] <Con> cake?
#4347 [20:05] <MarserBlood> but its a new one already?
#4348 [20:05] <MarserBlood> ill give it a try :)
#4349 [20:05] <bobafett1299> Cause I cant even join mine without getting lagged out 2 min later
#4350 [20:05] <bobafett1299> mk
#4351 [20:06] <bobafett1299> Con, are you a mod?
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#4353 [20:06] <bobafett1299> and if so, are you authorized to tell me what the secret is? :D
#4354 [20:06] <bobafett1299> plz ;)
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#4357 [20:07] <aetherian> aaahhhhh
#4358 [20:07] <MarserBlood> so everyone has problems with smp server?
#4359 [20:07] <aetherian> bright red text is bright and red
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#4361 [20:07] <Kealper> and it serves it's job well lol
#4362 [20:07] <Con> nah, we aren't Mojang staff
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#4364 [20:08] <Con> Nobody has figured out what it is yet
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#4367 [20:08] <jobotslash> MarserBlood: yeah... seems it's external connection related
#4368 [20:08] <mib_3cdibt> Can someone walk me through setting up a private server?
#4369 [20:08] <Foe> I also have a question. Can we save the world we had on alpha multiplayer before and transfer it to the new smp client? And if we can, how do we do it?
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#4371 [20:10] <MarserBlood> but i can connect to my own server without problems...
#4372 [20:10] <jobotslash> I've had no problem with Lan based play... or even connecting to my external IP
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#4374 [20:10] <jobotslash> probably something to do with handling latency
#4375 [20:10] <jobotslash> causes external connections to overflow
#4376 [20:11] <MarserBlood> that sounds what it is
#4377 [20:11] <MarserBlood> how can i fix that?
#4378 [20:11] <jobotslash> can't.
#4379 [20:11] <jobotslash> supposedly notch is gonna have a fix out tomorrow.
#4380 [20:11] <MarserBlood> ?
#4381 [20:11] <MarserBlood> ah ok
#4382 [20:11] <jobotslash> I've tried VPN and stuff... no luck
#4383 [20:12] <Con> Foe: There's no difference between alpha and beta save
#4384 [20:12] <Con> :|
#4385 [20:12] <Foe> Oh? >.<
#4386 [20:12] <Foe> Sorry, I'm not very savvy is this deparment.
#4387 [20:12] <Foe> So how is it that we update the server?
#4388 [20:12] <jobotslash> MarserBlood: https://twitter.com/notch/status/16929934379327488
#4389 [20:13] <mib_3cdibt> Can someone walk me through setting up a private server?
#4390 [20:13] <Con> download new server jar/exe
#4391 [20:13] <jobotslash> execute newserver jar/exe
#4392 [20:13] <mib_3cdibt> ok
#4393 [20:13] <jobotslash> =D
#4394 [20:13] <jobotslash> give IP to friends
#4395 [20:13] <jobotslash> ???
#4396 [20:13] <jobotslash> profit
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#4398 [20:13] <Foe> Ah... I see.
#4399 [20:14] <MarserBlood> lol
#4400 [20:14] <mib_3cdibt> does it matter if u choose the jar or exe file?
#4401 [20:14] <Con> somewhat
#4402 [20:14] <xaviergmail> Hey, I;m in the nether, on fire, no water bucket, brand new diamond pick, can I roll on the floor?
#4403 [20:14] * aetherian is away: friend
#4403 [20:14] <Con> no, xaviergmail
#4404 [20:14] <xaviergmail> :(
#4405 [20:15] <Con> Even if you had a water bucket it wouldn't help you in the nether
#4406 [20:15] <jobotslash> xaviergmail: you gon' die =(
#4407 [20:15] <Foe> Thank you very much Con and jobot for helping my stupidity :P
#4408 [20:15] <Con> Water evaporates instantly in the nether
#4409 [20:15] <mib_3cdibt> drop ur pick near ur portal
#4410 [20:15] <mib_3cdibt> then die and get it back
#4411 [20:15] <xaviergmail> D: bai pick
#4412 [20:15] <Con> Your pick won't disappear from the nether until you enter it again
#4413 [20:15] <MarserBlood> thnx jobotslash for your answer
#4414 [20:16] <xaviergmail> weird, lst time I got lost, IU built a huge tower of soul sand
#4415 [20:16] <xaviergmail> and dropped all my items near it
#4416 [20:16] <jobotslash> no problem. I was freaking out about it at first too, haha. you should see the forums x.x
#4417 [20:16] <xaviergmail> then threw myself into lava, came back went to my sand tower
#4418 [20:16] <xaviergmail> and my items were gone
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#4420 [20:16] <Zenreich> Anyone have any ideas on how to fix the SocketException error? It started with one friend having it, then it went away... Then I got it, and now a friend has it.
#4421 [20:16] <Zenreich> None of us have Atheros cards.
#4422 [20:17] <Con> Which socket exception?
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#4424 [20:17] <Zenreich> ... One second
#4425 [20:17] <Zenreich> I'll get you the exact error, and then the stack dump
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#4427 [20:19] <Zenreich> ff
#4428 [20:19] <Zenreich> Nevermind, I cant get it, but its all over the forum from people with Atheros cards, since September
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#4430 [20:19] <Zenreich> Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset by peer: Socket write error
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#4432 [20:20] <Zenreich> I've been playing MC fine for a couple weeks now and it only started last night
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#4434 [20:21] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Uhh hello.
#4435 [20:21] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Anyone there?
#4436 [20:21] <Con> ah
#4437 [20:21] <Nananeeneenoonoo> :D
#4438 [20:21] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Can you help me?
#4439 [20:21] <Con> socket write error.. is it on SMP?
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#4441 [20:21] <Con> Nananeeneenoonoo: No, we don't serve help in the help channel
#4442 [20:21] <Zenreich> Con, yes
#4443 [20:22] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Hehe, well I'm having trouble with the Minecraft launcher.
#4444 [20:22] <Zenreich> Con, it used to take about 20 seconds on a server before it happened, now its instan
#4445 [20:22] <Zenreich> t*
#4446 [20:22] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Every time I input my user name and password, it updates the game and then crashes.
#4447 [20:22] <Con> alright, all you can possibly do to try to fix that is reduce your render distance
#4448 [20:22] <Con> Nananeeneenoonoo: Does it give an error report?
#4449 [20:22] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Then I get an error report from Java on my desktop.
#4450 [20:22] <Zenreich> Render distance is already on Normal
#4451 [20:22] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Yep.
#4452 [20:23] <Con> Nananeeneenoonoo: in the game?
#4453 [20:23] <Con> Zenreich: Then it's Beta's fault and there's nothing we can do :<
#4454 [20:23] <Zenreich> It uh, was happening before Beta too
#4455 [20:23] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Nope, I can't even enter the game. The error report appears as a shortcut on my desktop.
#4456 [20:24] <Nananeeneenoonoo> "A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment."
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#4458 [20:25] <Nananeeneenoonoo> I reinstalled Java, updated my drivers, but that did nothing..
#4459 [20:26] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Can you figure out what's wrong?
#4460 [20:27] <Con> What OS are you on?
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#4462 [20:27] <Acaceol> Anyone find a fix for disconnect.overflow?
#4463 [20:28] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Sorry, I'm honestly not sure.
#4464 [20:28] <Con> That's the server..
#4465 [20:28] <Con> Beta's fault
#4466 [20:28] <Con> :|
#4467 [20:28] <Acaceol> Ah. We just have to wait for Notch? D:
#4468 [20:28] <Nananeeneenoonoo> <---technologically impaired duck.
#4469 [20:28] <Con> Nananeeneenoonoo: Is it Windows or Mac or Linux
#4470 [20:28] <Nananeeneenoonoo> I operate on Windows Vista if that's any help.
#4471 [20:29] <Con> ah
#4472 [20:29] <Con> It seems like Minecraft is just like totally doomed right now
#4473 [20:30] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Oh, so it's got nothing to do with my computer, then?
#4474 [20:30] <Con> Not really
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#4476 [20:30] <Acaceol> It's pretty bad... I got a bunch of my friends to buy the game since it was the last day of Alpha, and now that it's updated, we can't play multiplayer... :/
#4477 [20:30] <Con> ..but you might want to upgrade to XP or 7
#4478 [20:31] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Hmm...but I thought the game ran on Vista?
#4479 [20:31] <Con> It does
#4480 [20:32] <Con> But Vista is terrible for anything
#4481 [20:32] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Hehe.
#4482 [20:32] <Con> With Vista.. failure is not an option.. it comes built in.
#4483 [20:32] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Well, in the mean time, can you suggest anything else? I can't play the game through the browser either, sadly.
#4484 [20:32] <Con> Minecraft Classic?
#4485 [20:33] <Nananeeneenoonoo> Nope. Doesn't work.
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#4488 [20:41] <Acaceol> Does using a VPN get around the disconnect.overflow? It doesn't seem to happen for people who are actually on LAN...
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#4492 [20:48] <help> umm how do i find my port?
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#4495 [20:49] <hello> can someone tell me how to forward my port?
#4496 [20:50] <Acaceol> www.portforward.com
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#4498 [20:51] <tpopcaz> can someone tell me why after loging into minecraft it closes
#4499 [20:52] <hello> i went to portforward.com but im confused as what to do
#4500 [20:52] <tpopcaz> and will my old server work with beta?
#4501 [20:54] <Acaceol> No, you'll have to redownload the server
#4502 [20:54] <Acaceol> However you can use the same map
#4503 [20:54] <Acaceol> (I believe so, at least)
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#4505 [20:57] <D3RGPS31> after a few seconds in smp, i disconnect with a connection reset error
#4506 [20:57] <D3RGPS31> what do o:
#4507 [20:57] <hello> What exactly do i do in portforward.com?
#4508 [20:57] <Acaceol> Put in the make of your router and it will tell you how to forward ports on it
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#4510 [20:59] <hello> what is the make of my router, sorry im not good with this
#4511 [20:59] <Acaceol> Whatever brand of router you have
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#4513 [21:00] <hello> how do i fin that out?
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#4515 [21:00] <hello> find
#4516 [21:00] <smith_61> hello
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#4518 [21:00] <Acaceol> Look at your router
#4519 [21:00] <Acaceol> It should say somewhere on it
#4520 [21:01] <smith_61> any news on how to fix the connection issues?
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#4522 [21:01] <smith_61> i can't stay connected for more then a minute
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#4524 [21:02] <hello> ok i looked at my router, and i think i have Atnt
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#4526 [21:03] <smith_61> I take it no fix yet?
#4527 [21:03] <smith_61> well great beta then
#4528 [21:04] <tpopcaz> anyone know why minecraft will let me log in but close by itself right after
#4529 [21:04] <smith_61> nope
#4530 [21:04] <smith_61> beta release hasn't been the greatest
#4531 [21:04] <smith_61> tons of bugs
#4532 [21:05] <tpopcaz> it was doing it with alpha but on my other computer works fine
#4533 [21:05] <smith_61> well then its not beta's fault
#4534 [21:05] <smith_61> although it probably is
#4535 [21:06] <tpopcaz> yea no clue why it does it
#4536 [21:07] <smith_61> the connection issue needs to be fixed
#4537 [21:07] <smith_61> and fixed soon
#4538 [21:07] <tpopcaz> hope there working on everything
#4539 [21:07] <smith_61> no
#4540 [21:07] <smith_61> notch saids its not getting fixed till tomorrow
#4541 [21:08] <smith_61> the others are sick
#4542 [21:08] <tpopcaz> damn
#4543 [21:08] <smith_61> I like minecraft
#4544 [21:08] <smith_61> but hate beta
#4545 [21:09] <Roy> I'm sad they fixed the item durability bug in the beta
#4546 [21:09] <smith_61> I wouldn't of mined if it was delayed a year
#4547 [21:09] <smith_61> as long as i could still play on a server
#4548 [21:10] <tpopcaz> i only played one day so far had a server up for me and my cousin then all this
#4549 [21:10] <smith_61> for more then a minute
#4550 [21:10] <Roy> it was nice to be able to reset the durability on diamond picks
#4551 [21:10] <smith_61> hopefully chests are fixed
#4552 [21:10] <smith_61> i had mine eat 51 diamonds once
#4553 [21:10] <Jorc> Hey guys
#4554 [21:10] <Roy> /rant
#4555 [21:10] <Jorc> Can you tell me, will this tree grow: http://i54.tinypic.com/qrn4ad.jpg
#4556 [21:10] <smith_61> anyone know of any sort of temporary fix for this issue
#4557 [21:11] <Roy> it doesn't exist smith_61
#4558 [21:11] <smith_61> I want to play on a server since single player is boring
#4559 [21:11] <smith_61> but i don't last more then 20 seconds now
#4560 [21:11] <Roy> you have to wait for the patch
#4561 [21:11] <Jorc> Will this http://i54.tinypic.com/qrn4ad.jpg grow? Its in a cave
#4562 [21:11] <smith_61> well this sucks
#4563 [21:11] <smith_61> jorc yes it will
#4564 [21:11] <Jorc> Okay
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#4566 [21:12] <Jorc> Can you tell me why the torches and sapling keep like, taking themselves out of their place and just appearing on the floor for me to pick up?
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#4569 [21:12] <Con> what
#4570 [21:12] <Jorc> When I plant the saplings and put torches down after a while they turn into the ones that you can pick up
#4571 [21:12] <tpopcaz> did they add any new armor or things to mine anyone knows?
#4572 [21:12] <Jorc> If you know what i mean?
#4573 [21:12] <Con> That makes no sense..
#4574 [21:12] <Con> no, tpopcaz
#4575 [21:12] <smith_61> i don't know of any new additions
#4576 [21:13] <smith_61> just the connection bug
#4577 [21:13] <smith_61> and this was supposed to be good for server
#4578 [21:13] <Stapler> Hey guys, I'm getting a Black Screen every time I try to start minecraft. I'm running windows 7, and i've also tried deleting my /bin folder. Any other suggestions?
#4579 [21:13] <noodude> has anyone found a way to reduce the lag when playing the standalone?
#4580 [21:14] <smith_61> well time to go look at google for a fix
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#4582 [21:14] <Roy> bugs happen smith_61, good companies fix their software in a timely manner, notch does a good job generally
#4583 [21:14] <Roy> he did rip out a significant chunk of code
#4584 [21:14] <noodude> Stapler at what point do you get a black screen?
#4585 [21:15] <Stapler> I log in, it goes to the Mojang symbol, and then a black screen
#4586 [21:15] <Stapler> it doesn'
#4587 [21:15] <Stapler> t crash either
#4588 [21:15] <Stapler> it just hangs. and then I just close it
#4589 [21:15] <noodude> has this been happening since beta came out?
#4590 [21:16] <Stapler> yeah
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#4592 [21:16] <Stapler> and it works fine on my laptop
#4593 [21:16] <Stapler> just my PC doesn't work
#4594 [21:16] <noodude> have you made sure your video card drivers are up to date?
#4595 [21:16] <kontroll> Anyone know why the minecraft server sometimes starts with a different world?
#4596 [21:17] <Stapler> yea, but ill try updating them again
#4597 [21:17] <tpopcaz> i got the same problem it works on my laptop not my pc
#4598 [21:17] <noodude> also, make sure your java is up to date.
#4599 [21:19] <Stapler> hmm, im actually updating java
#4600 [21:19] <Stapler> hopefully dat werkz
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#4602 [21:20] <Stapler> iTreefish?
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#4604 [21:21] <Kealper> !reload mod_motd
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#4606 [21:21] <Kealper> !server
#4607 [21:21] * mib_c7rfi7 [mib_c7rfi7@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4608 [21:21] <Kealper> !client
#4609 [21:21] <Kealper> hmm....
#4610 [21:21] <mib_c7rfi7> How can I tell what my ip is for my server, i only know local
#4611 [21:21] <Kealper> 99.135.168.111
#4612 [21:22] <kontroll> Why is my server starting the wrong world most of the time? It's very tiresome for me+friends.
#4613 [21:22] <Con> ipconfig or whatismyip.com
#4614 [21:22] <mib_c7rfi7> when i type that it says timed out and i have already forwarded ports
#4615 [21:22] <Kealper> if it ever changes, you can check it at http://whatismyip.com
#4616 [21:22] <hello> hey can anyone tell me what to do to get my port after i get into the applications, pinholes, and DMZ options?
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#4618 [21:22] <Con> DMZ options?
#4619 [21:22] <Kealper> O.o
#4620 [21:23] <mib_c7rfi7> dont use dmz
#4621 [21:23] <mib_c7rfi7> opens u up too much
#4622 [21:23] <Kealper> !client
#4623 [21:23] <Kealper> oh..wow...i should turn down that spam control a bit
#4624 [21:23] <hello> well DMZ
#4625 [21:23] <hello> not DMZ options
#4626 [21:23] <mib_c7rfi7> kealper, I still cant connect to my server even though i use that ip
#4627 [21:24] <Kealper> DMZ is not recommended unless you actually know what you are doing when it comes to computer security and network security
#4628 [21:24] <Kealper> mib_c7rfi7: did you forward the port?
#4629 [21:24] <mib_c7rfi7> yes, btw its udp right?
#4630 [21:24] <Kealper> tcp
#4631 [21:24] <hello> ok, but how do i find my port so ppl could join my server
#4632 [21:24] <mib_c7rfi7> shit
#4633 [21:24] <Kealper> lol
#4634 [21:25] <mib_c7rfi7> :D thanks
#4635 [21:25] <Kealper> hello: unless you changed it, the port will be 25565, and will not need to be entered
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#4637 [21:26] <hello> yeah i know but if i keep it as 25565 no one can join me
#4638 [21:26] <Kealper> also, http://portforward.com to check how to forward ports in your router
#4639 [21:26] <noodude> is there a way to reduce the lag on the standalone survival mode?
#4640 [21:26] <Kealper> noodude: are you playing it on a laptop?
#4641 [21:26] <Darth> is there any workaround for the massive change in cpu usage and lag on multiplayer
#4642 [21:26] <hello> portforward makes u pay now
#4643 [21:26] <noodude> nope
#4644 [21:26] <noodude> desktop
#4645 [21:26] <Con> Kealper
#4646 [21:26] <Kealper> hello: no they don't, that is an ad for their crappy program
#4647 [21:26] <noodude> when persister was used i had great fps
#4648 [21:26] <Con> Are you sure that's the right one?
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#4650 [21:27] <Kealper> Con: right what?
#4651 [21:27] <noodude> but since beta i have around 10 or lower fps outside and 15 in caves
#4652 [21:27] * Kealper checks links
#4652 [21:27] <noodude> but in caves i need tiny distance on and outside i need far distance to have ok fps
#4653 [21:27] <Kealper> looks legit enough for me....lol
#4654 [21:27] <noodude> which i think is wierd because i would think the farther i can see the more resource is required
#4655 [21:28] <noodude> but i get better fps doing it
#4656 [21:28] <Con> There are two portforward sites
#4657 [21:28] <Con> one is evil
#4658 [21:28] <Kealper> pf.com works, you just have to look for the skip ad button lol
#4659 [21:28] <hello> kealper: then what do i do exactly in portforward
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#4661 [21:29] <Kealper> lemme look for this mystical non-evil portforward, 1 sec
#4662 [21:29] <blitzmafia> -_- anyone know why I can't log into forums?
#4663 [21:29] <Kealper> blitzmafia: were you banned?
#4664 [21:29] <Con> because everyone else is logging in too?
#4665 [21:29] <Kealper> hello: ok, all i see is the link that i provided
#4666 [21:29] <blitzmafia> I've posted like 2 times, so I'm 90% sure I'm not banned lol.
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#4668 [21:30] <Con> because every Minecraft-related site is overloading because of Beta?
#4669 [21:30] <blitzmafia> Idunno, I log in, it just refreshes the log-in page..
#4670 [21:30] <Kealper> when you get to the thing that says buy, check the top right corner of the page, there is a link to skip said ad and get to what you need
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#4673 [21:31] <blitzmafia> can't even accept the ToS to make a new account :O forums must be getting raped by everyone
#4674 [21:31] <blitzmafia> spamming about finding said 'rare addition to the game'
#4675 [21:32] <hello> kealper: thank u
#4676 [21:32] <Darth> does the beta multiplayer even work for anyone?
#4677 [21:32] <Darth> it doesn't for us
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#4679 [21:32] <Kealper> works for me
#4680 [21:32] <Darth> kk
#4681 [21:34] <kontroll> I'm getting exception errors constantly now.
#4682 [21:34] <kontroll> What is going on?
#4683 [21:34] <Kealper> what sort of exceptions?
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#4685 [21:35] <kontroll> I'll just let the game run a few more seconds for it to crash again.
#4686 [21:35] <kontroll> There we go.
#4687 [21:35] <kontroll> Internal exception: java.io.EOFException
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#4690 [21:35] <Kealper> playing on an smp server?
#4691 [21:35] <kontroll> A what?
#4692 [21:35] <Kealper> multiplayer or single player?
#4693 [21:35] <kontroll> Multiplayer.
#4694 [21:36] <phodeaux> oh, I'm seeing SMP issues as well.
#4695 [21:36] <Kealper> your own server? or someone else's?
#4696 [21:36] <kontroll> Someone elses.
#4697 [21:36] <phodeaux> alpha ran fine with 6-8 players, now 3 get on and constant crashing
#4698 [21:36] <phodeaux> i'm on my own server.
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#4700 [21:37] <Kealper> kontroll: connect to mc.kealper.com to see if it does that on mine
#4701 [21:37] <kontroll> Alright, sec.
#4702 [21:37] <Kealper> phodeaux: do you have enough ram?
#4703 [21:37] <kontroll> Redownloaded server and restarted.
#4704 [21:37] <phodeaux> how much is enough? It's gone from runnning fine on 4 and I bumped it up to 8 and still problems.
#4705 [21:38] <Kealper> 1 gig for the server process
#4706 [21:38] <phodeaux> ha - starts at 1 and keeps going. Linux box, if interested.
#4707 [21:39] <blitzmafia> It's because the generator is all messed and the rendering is buggy Notch got off like less than an hour after release and only had time to quickly fix 1 thing.
#4708 [21:39] <phodeaux> ran *perfectly* for my group of 8-10 for weeks, then the beta patch, update the server and *splat* all this.
#4709 [21:40] <Kealper> hmm...probably a bug that will get fixed in tomorrow's update then
#4710 [21:40] <blitzmafia> I believe it has something to do with his new chunk saving method, obviously something isn't right with it .
#4711 [21:40] <kontroll> Any idea what it might be, Kealper?
#4712 [21:40] <phodeaux> *hope so*
#4713 [21:40] <kontroll> I'm not crashing on yours.
#4714 [21:40] <MarserBlood> your not the only one:) my server is crashing also
#4715 [21:40] <Kealper> kontroll: if i had to take a guess, i'd say it's that single server, and not your game
#4716 [21:40] <MarserBlood> i can log onto my own server, but nobody else can... :S
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#4718 [21:41] <kontroll> Reassuring, at least.
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#4720 [21:41] <deltree> hey
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#4722 [21:41] <MarserBlood> ey
#4723 [21:41] <kontroll> Server puter restarting then. :P
#4724 [21:41] <Kealper> server crashing you say? everyone connect to mc.kealper.com and just stand at spawn....i wonder if it crashes for me
#4725 [21:41] * `` is now known as GLaDOS
#4726 [21:41] <deltree> I'm having some trouble running my server
#4727 [21:42] <phodeaux> join the crowd...
#4728 [21:42] <deltree> I was wondering if I might get a bit of help
#4729 [21:42] <phodeaux> not alone
#4730 [21:42] <deltree> lol
#4731 [21:42] <MarserBlood> yeah, i have that ntoo
#4732 [21:42] <Stapler> hey, i tried updating my video card, and java, and I'm still getting a black screen after the mojang symbold, on Win 7... Any other suggestions?
#4733 [21:42] <MarserBlood> notch will fix it tomorrow i guess
#4734 [21:42] <deltree> it's saying it's outdated, but I can't find where to update
#4735 [21:42] <deltree> prolly
#4736 [21:42] <Kealper> kontroll: you didn't break my precious spawn point, did you? lol
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#4738 [21:42] <blitzmafia> deltree you need to go re-download off the site, I think he switched the server files from alpha to beta.
#4739 [21:42] <Jadin> How do you paddle in a boat?
#4740 [21:43] <Kealper> Jadin: W
#4741 [21:43] <blitzmafia> Hold w, you'll go forward until you reach max speed.
#4742 [21:43] <Jadin> Thank you.
#4743 [21:43] <kontroll> Kealper: I ran around a bit.
#4744 [21:43] <Jadin> What does server-sided inventory mean? I can still edit my inventory.
#4745 [21:43] <kontroll> That's all. Oh, and I opened a door or two. No idea how to do anything with spawnpoints. ;)
#4746 [21:43] <blitzmafia> Basically, the servers recognition of what you have in your inventory
#4747 [21:43] <Kealper> kontroll: oh, k, i'm a bit paranoid about it right now since i don't have cuboid to protect it :P
#4748 [21:43] <Cial> Jadin, that is for SMP servers so people cant hack items in
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#4750 [21:44] <phodeaux> oh, is the minecraft jar file you are seeing 350966 bytes?
#4751 [21:44] <Jadin> Oh, got it.
#4752 [21:44] <Jadin> Is there such thing as nightvision?
#4753 [21:44] <blitzmafia> Nope, you need to places torches, sulphur, etc.
#4754 [21:45] <blitzmafia> The best idea ever would be like helmet with a torch on top = light in helmet lol.
#4755 [21:46] <kontroll> Cuboid, you say?
#4756 [21:46] <deltree> goggles would be nice
#4757 [21:46] <Jadin> Is there any way to take light with me where I travel?
#4758 [21:46] <deltree> not really
#4759 [21:46] <deltree> other than carrying torches
#4760 [21:46] <Jadin> Dang, ok thanks.
#4761 [21:46] <deltree> puttingthem down
#4762 [21:46] <deltree> and picking them up again
#4763 [21:48] <Stapler> anyone got any suggestions to fix black screen? ><
#4764 [21:48] <MarserBlood> turn your screen on?
#4765 [21:49] <Jadin> Lol.
#4766 [21:49] <Stapler> lol n1
#4767 [21:49] <Stapler> i usually play with no monitor, so its a good troublehsooting step
#4768 [21:49] <deltree> lol minecraft wizard
#4769 [21:50] <kontroll> Kealper: What server version are you running?
#4770 [21:50] <deltree> "That deaf dumb and blind kid sure built a mean brick wall"
#4771 [21:50] <Kealper> Beta 1.0
#4772 [21:50] <MarserBlood> atm im running beta 1.0_01
#4773 [21:50] <Kealper> latest
#4774 [21:50] <kontroll> Same then.
#4775 [21:50] <Kealper> that's client not server
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#4777 [21:50] <Kealper> client is Beta 1.0_01, server is just Beta 1.0
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#4779 [21:52] <Jorc> For the glitch so you can see fires underground (and therefore dungeons), do you just spam F anywhere? or do you have to be underground? Because I dont see any fires at all when I spam it just blue.
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#4782 [21:55] <kontroll> Meh. I'll just hold out hope that Notch fixes it tomorrow. ;P
#4783 [21:55] <kontroll> No big deal.
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#4788 [22:02] <phodeaux> hmm, once starting server, saying "saves-on" has made it a bit more stable.
#4789 [22:05] <Kealper> O.o
#4790 [22:07] * aetherian is back (gone 01:51:57)
#4790 [22:08] <phodeaux> oh, that didn't stand up well. never mind.
#4791 [22:08] <aetherian> hey guys
#4792 [22:08] <Kealper> ello
#4793 [22:08] <aetherian> wat is tis, national don't use an "H" day?
#4794 [22:09] <Kealper> i always say ello lol
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#4796 [22:09] <Kealper> 'ello
#4797 [22:09] <aetherian> o, I see wat you're playing at
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#4801 [22:15] <Kealper> so it looks like this place finnally died down lol
#4802 [22:15] <Mikau> Allo gov'na
#4803 [22:15] <Kealper> xD
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#4805 [22:19] <Jorc> Can you cook pork?
#4806 [22:19] <Con> yes
#4807 [22:19] <kontroll> In the furnace.
#4808 [22:19] <Con> Smelted porkchop
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#4810 [22:20] <Jorc> What does it do when you cook it?
#4811 [22:20] <Con> it gets cooked
#4812 [22:20] <Mikau> I doesn't give you food poisoning.
#4813 [22:20] <Kealper> i call it cooked bacon O.o
#4814 [22:21] <Jorc> No I mean, does it increase the amount of hp eating pork gives?
#4815 [22:21] <Kealper> by a lot, yes
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#4818 [22:21] <Con> Kealper: pork chops
#4819 [22:22] <Kealper> anyone tried egging someone yet?
#4820 [22:22] <Jorc> How many hearts does it give back Kealper?
#4821 [22:22] <Kealper> 4? something around that
#4822 [22:23] <Mikau> I didn't update my client or server yet, Kealper, so no. :P
#4823 [22:23] <Jorc> thanks
#4824 [22:23] <Kealper> ahh lol....guess i'll just stock up on eggs and go throw them at animals
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#4828 [22:25] <Kealper> woh
#4829 [22:25] <Kealper> that is cool
#4830 [22:26] <Kealper> if you throw enough eggs, chickens come out when they break
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#4832 [22:26] <Mikau> I guess that's the rare secret?
#4833 [22:27] <Mikau> We can take a useless item, and make a semi-useless animal from it. ;)
#4834 [22:27] <Kealper> it very well could be...lol
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#4836 [22:28] <mon> umm is anyone haveing problems with multiplayer everytime i try playing it says connection refused connect can any1 help plz
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#4838 [22:28] <tpopcaz> Ok I can connect to my server using localhost as my ip but neither me or my cousin can connect using my actual ip anyone know the problem?
#4839 [22:29] <mon> same here
#4840 [22:29] <Mikau> Firewall.
#4841 [22:29] <Mikau> Open ze ports!
#4842 [22:29] <same> HEllo my game is crashing in MultiPlayer sma is this some new to beta bugs?
#4843 [22:29] <tpopcaz> its on a laptop and the ports are open
#4844 [22:29] <Mikau> Actually, I hear a lot of people are having problems with the beta server
#4845 [22:29] <tpopcaz> we connected fine before beta
#4846 [22:29] <Mikau> Which is yet one more reason I didn't immediately update my server. ;)
#4847 [22:29] <same> Indeed we did
#4848 [22:29] <Kealper> i did good, yes? http://i.imgur.com/HLhGL.png
#4849 [22:30] <mon> im having the same prob tpop
#4850 [22:30] <same> No but got auto updated client so i thot wthat tha heck :p
#4851 [22:30] <same> what*
#4852 [22:30] <Mikau> I don't think your house is going to last long against my invasion of creepers.
#4853 [22:31] <Kealper> it's not my house lol
#4854 [22:31] <same> So is this somthing that will be prioritised?
#4855 [22:31] <Kealper> mine is safely under about 10 blocks of water :P
#4856 [22:31] * Mikau rolls a 1d20.
#4856 [22:31] <Mikau> Shit, it's a 1. You win this time, sir.
#4857 [22:31] <Kealper> xD
#4858 [22:31] <Kealper> is that a script?
#4859 [22:31] <Mikau> You should have threw the eggs inside the house.
#4860 [22:31] <Mikau> No, I just typed that. :P
#4861 [22:32] <same> Can you trow eggs?
#4862 [22:32] <Kealper> oh....should i make a module for doing that on AuBot? lol
#4863 [22:32] <Mikau> If that's someone elses house, you could have filled it with chickens.
#4864 [22:32] <Kealper> could be like !roll or something
#4865 [22:32] <Mikau> My chat program has it.
#4866 [22:32] <Kealper> lol
#4867 [22:32] <Mikau> It's /roll amount sides
#4868 [22:32] <same> SO ANY idea on fix for crashing beta dedicated server?
#4869 [22:32] <Mikau> So /roll 1 20
#4870 [22:32] <Mikau> would be a 1d20
#4871 [22:32] <same> turnd off hmode
#4872 [22:33] <mon> even if i do turn off firewall it still doesnt work
#4873 [22:33] <Kealper> same: nope :S
#4874 [22:33] <same> PORTFORWARD
#4875 [22:33] <Kealper> no idea
#4876 [22:33] <Mikau> The crashing is on the server end, same.
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#4878 [22:33] <Mikau> It's not you in peticular, just a problem with the update.
#4879 [22:34] <Mikau> All I can say is, you should have backed up the old server files.
#4880 [22:34] <Mikau> You should ALWAYS back up the old server files.
#4881 [22:34] <Mikau> and your older client.
#4882 [22:34] <same> Ok so just wait 4 new update i then :p
#4883 [22:34] <same> No quik fix? :)
#4884 [22:34] <Mikau> If the new server / client breaks, backdate the server, throw the new version file in the old client files, and play that way.
#4885 [22:34] <Kealper> alrighty, that guy's house is full of chickens
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#4887 [22:35] <same> Hmm not a bad idea thanks mate.
#4888 [22:35] <same> To stoned to think of that LoLs
#4889 [22:35] <mon> well its working for my friend when he puts in localhost but its not working for me when i put in the ip
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#4891 [22:36] <Mikau> Because you're not local on his network :P
#4892 [22:36] <same> mon if you are trying to connect to server ower the internettt you need to open the port in the router from where the server is hosted.
#4893 [22:37] <same> and use his WAN IP (inett) NOT local
#4894 [22:37] <same> Well thanks for your help guys bye
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#4896 [22:37] <mon> i know im using his local ip and its not working
#4897 [22:37] <Kealper> mon: his external ip....
#4898 [22:38] <mon> ooo ty
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#4900 [22:38] <Kealper> can't wait until paintings are visible :S
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#4902 [22:40] <Mikau> I just want trees to burn down completely when they're lit on fire :(
#4903 [22:40] <Kealper> yea, that'd be nice too
#4904 [22:40] <Mikau> It'd be amusing if Notch made grass catch fire too
#4905 [22:40] <Kealper> lol
#4906 [22:40] <Mikau> It would be extremely bad though
#4907 [22:40] <Mikau> it would light the whole world on fire
#4908 [22:40] <Kealper> yea....lol
#4909 [22:40] <Mikau> or at least, until it hit a surrounding of non-burnable biomes
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#4911 [22:41] <Kealper> that makes me want to make a castle for some reason....
#4912 [22:41] * Kealper gets to work
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#4913 [22:41] <Kealper> after i re-tree my spawn though....stupid things were burned down :S
#4914 [22:42] <Mikau> I bought someone the game yesterday, and lit a tree on fire to get rid of it.
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#4916 [22:42] <Mikau> I was going to show him the basics of the game.
#4917 [22:42] <Mikau> Build a house, don't die, repeat.
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#4919 [22:42] <Jorc> hey guys so Im using the glitch to see udnerground, to look for a dungeon. I cant see any though, just loads of lava. What will the dungeons look like when I can see them using the glitch?
#4920 [22:42] <Mikau> Turns out that one tree was connected to every tree for about a mile.
#4921 [22:42] <Mikau> and my chopping back the leaves wasn't chopped back enough
#4922 [22:42] <Kealper> Jorc: not even sure if they will show
#4923 [22:43] <Kealper> Mikau: XD
#4924 [22:43] <Mikau> I spent at least 2 hours clearing tree flaming treestumps.
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#4926 [22:43] <Kealper> hmm...flaming treestumps....
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#4929 [22:44] <Spawn> GLaDOS, something is wrong with the website
#4930 [22:44] <Kealper> that would be cool if when he fixes the burning wood bug, that he makes it so the first block (stump) of a tree remains on fire
#4931 [22:44] <zouhair> ok new to minecraft, having hard time making torches
#4932 [22:44] <Kealper> zouhair: do you have sticks and coal?
#4933 [22:44] <Con> Spawn, why are you talking to GLaDOS?
#4934 [22:44] <zouhair> fracks thats flint
#4935 [22:45] <zouhair> godamit
#4936 [22:45] <Spawn> con i need help
#4937 [22:45] <Mikau> stick + coal = torch
#4938 [22:45] <zouhair> flint and coal look too much alike
#4939 [22:45] <Mikau> http://i51.tinypic.com/scup1v.png
#4940 [22:45] <Con> Spawn: With what?
#4941 [22:45] <GLaDOS> 9>implying we manage minecraft.net
#4942 [22:45] <Mikau> All those trees near the right side, they all caught fire.
#4943 [22:45] <Spawn> i tried to get my premium account and it didn't work for some reason con
#4944 [22:46] <Kealper> Spawn: how long ago
#4945 [22:46] <Spawn> i kept getting error messages even though all of my information was right
#4946 [22:46] <Mikau> How long ago did you purchase the premium?
#4947 [22:46] <Spawn> like 5 minutes ago Kealper
#4948 [22:46] <Kealper> did you fill out all the required information?
#4949 [22:46] <Mikau> You should wait a while, sometimes it isn't instant.
#4950 [22:46] <Spawn> yea Kealper
#4951 [22:46] <Spawn> but it still didn't work
#4952 [22:47] <Kealper> wait, so you bought it? or it's not letting you buy it?
#4953 [22:47] <Spawn> it's not letting me buy it
#4954 [22:47] <Kealper> then you are not filling out something correctly, make sure you are not using any special characters
#4955 [22:48] <Spawn> im not
#4956 [22:48] <Spawn> i checked like 10 times
#4957 [22:48] <tpopcaz> anyone know a site to check if my ports are open?
#4958 [22:48] <lemon-rev> http://vaevictus.net/minecraft/
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#4961 [22:49] <tpopcaz> hm saying failed but i had it opened two days ago
#4962 [22:49] <Kealper> your internal ip may have changed
#4963 [22:49] <lemon-rev> did muliplayer get fixed as off this mornging ?
#4964 [22:49] <Mikau> http://i51.tinypic.com/scup1v.png | http://i53.tinypic.com/4kvg5k.png
#4965 [22:49] <Kealper> lemon-rev: define fixed? lol
#4966 [22:50] <tpopcaz> so how i fix that
#4967 [22:50] <lemon-rev> lol
#4968 [22:50] <lemon-rev> ie working
#4969 [22:50] <Mikau> Cartographer looks so much better than whatever the other program I use is.
#4970 [22:50] <Kealper> lemon-rev: it "works" for me lol
#4971 [22:50] <Mikau> but Cartographer breaks cause my map is too big :(
#4972 [22:50] <lemon-rev> i see
#4973 [22:50] <lemon-rev> but is that with the updated jar file everyone was getting
#4974 [22:50] <lemon-rev> or remaining with old server file ?
#4975 [22:50] <Kealper> still same server afaik
#4976 [22:50] <lemon-rev> kk
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#4978 [22:50] <lemon-rev> np
#4979 [22:50] <lemon-rev> all good :)
#4980 [22:51] <Kealper> well, the first beta server lol
#4981 [22:51] <Jorc> Kealper by the way
#4982 [22:51] <lemon-rev> hm
#4983 [22:51] <lemon-rev> i see
#4984 [22:51] <Jorc> If I am able to see the dungeons using the glithc
#4985 [22:51] <Jorc> glitch*
#4986 [22:51] <Kealper> tpopcaz: go and forward said port again
#4987 [22:51] <lemon-rev> well ill test both old and new then see if it makes good difference
#4988 [22:51] <Jorc> What will the light be made by? Torches inside a dungeon?
#4989 [22:51] <Jorc> or something else?
#4990 [22:51] <Kealper> there is no light in a dungeon
#4991 [22:51] <tpopcaz> how to tell if im internal ip changed?
#4992 [22:51] <Jorc> there is a flame though isnt there?
#4993 [22:51] <Kealper> which is why i doubt you can see them
#4994 [22:52] <Jorc> in the mob spawner
#4995 [22:52] <Kealper> tpopcaz: open a cmd window and type ipconfig
#4996 [22:52] <Kealper> Jorc: i don't think it makes light
#4997 [22:54] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/mc
#4998 [22:54] <Kealper> that's an epic colluseum though Mikau lol
#4999 [22:55] <Mikau> The large building behind it is a 2x scale version of the first dungeon on Zelda for NES
#5000 [22:55] <Mikau> :D
#5001 [22:55] <Spawn> Kealper, this si the message i keep getting Your credit or debit card has been declined for this transaction; PayPal could not validate the card. Please verify that the information you entered is correct, or try a different credit or debit card.
#5002 [22:55] <Spawn> even though i put everthing in
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#5004 [22:55] <Spawn> nothings wrong
#5005 [22:55] <Kealper> Spawn: PayPal has probably banned that card, use a different one
#5006 [22:56] <Spawn> Kealper, why would it be banned? i just got it activated today
#5007 [22:56] <Kealper> no idea
#5008 [22:56] <Kealper> not even sure that is what is wrong
#5009 [22:56] <Kealper> but for some reason, PayPal does not like that card
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#5011 [22:57] <Spawn> lol well thanks i guess i wont be playing minecraft
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#5013 [22:57] <Mikau> Ragequit.
#5014 [22:57] <lemon-rev> awsume stuff kealper just downloaded new server.exe and works like a gem
#5015 [22:57] <lemon-rev> :)
#5016 [22:57] <Mikau> like a diamoned!
#5017 [22:57] <Mikau> -e
#5018 [22:57] <Kealper> lol
#5019 [22:58] <Kealper> like a boss?
#5020 [22:58] <lemon-rev> lol
#5021 [22:58] <lemon-rev> oopse
#5022 [22:58] <Mikau> Anyways, behind the colluseum is a 2x scale zelda dungeon
#5023 [22:58] <lemon-rev> internet exception lol
#5024 [22:58] <lemon-rev> dont think thats ment to happen
#5025 [22:58] <Mikau> minus 2 or 3 rooms that I haven't gotten around to build.
#5026 [22:58] <Kealper> nice lol
#5027 [22:58] <Mikau> The room sticking out of the left side of the colluseum is the triforce room
#5028 [22:58] <Kealper> :O
#5029 [22:58] <tpopcaz> is there a new server file or is it the same on under downloads?
#5030 [22:59] <Kealper> same one as downloads
#5031 [22:59] <Kealper> that link is always up to date
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#5034 [23:00] <MarserBlood> right
#5035 [23:00] <lemon-rev> hm
#5036 [23:00] <lemon-rev> ok server keeps breaking
#5037 [23:00] <lemon-rev> still
#5038 [23:00] <lemon-rev> :(
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#5040 [23:01] <Kealper> what's it not doing?
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#5042 [23:01] <lemon-rev> well it runs then crashes after about 2 mins of playing
#5043 [23:01] <Mikau> error?
#5044 [23:01] <lemon-rev> java.net.sockeyexception: connection reset
#5045 [23:02] <Kealper> so your server is crashing?
#5046 [23:02] <lemon-rev> yes
#5047 [23:02] <lemon-rev> and thats the new .exe
#5048 [23:02] <Kealper> os?
#5049 [23:02] <lemon-rev> xp
#5050 [23:02] <Kealper> nvm
#5051 [23:02] <Kealper> uhh....updated java?
#5052 [23:02] <Kealper> are you running it off a separate machine?
#5053 [23:02] <lemon-rev> cant on this windows which suxs
#5054 [23:03] <lemon-rev> hm, this version of xp
#5055 [23:03] <lemon-rev> is called crystal
#5056 [23:03] <Kealper> fucking spawn protection
#5057 [23:03] <tpopcaz> hmm still cant figure out why i cant connect to my server anymore
#5058 [23:03] <lemon-rev> uninqe shit
#5059 [23:03] <Kealper> a creeper just blew up my friggin spawn....and i can't fix it because it's too close
#5060 [23:03] <lemon-rev> i can connect to is if i say log in but yea strange shit
#5061 [23:04] <Kealper> tpopcaz: are you using the beta server?
#5062 [23:05] <Kealper> like seriously....why can't server ops modify spawn without a mod? that's retarded as crap
#5063 [23:05] <tpopcaz> yea i redownloaded everything
#5064 [23:05] <Kealper> the correct everything?
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#5067 [23:06] <Kealper> exactly what happens when you go to connect to it?
#5068 [23:06] <tpopcaz> i clicked on download beta
#5069 [23:06] <tpopcaz> got the beta files then went to the bottom where it says windows server download
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#5071 [23:07] <Kealper> hmm
#5072 [23:07] <tpopcaz> i did my port forwarding for 25565
#5073 [23:07] <Kealper> fml....i accidentally removed myself from ops.txt....gg
#5074 [23:08] <Kealper> tpopcaz: the server is running, correct?
#5075 [23:08] <Kealper> did you change anything inside server.properties?
#5076 [23:08] <tpopcaz> the name
#5077 [23:09] <Kealper> name?
#5078 [23:09] <Kealper> name of what?
#5079 [23:09] <tpopcaz> of the world
#5080 [23:09] <Kealper> oh....hmm..
#5081 [23:09] <Kealper> inside the file, server-ip is not filled out, right?
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#5083 [23:10] <tpopcaz> yea
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#5085 [23:10] <lemon-rev> anyone know the java website and why it wont update mine if it says trouble with present internet setttings
#5086 [23:11] <Kealper> lemon-rev: O.o
#5087 [23:12] <Kealper> java website is just http://java.com and might you have some proxy set up somewhere?
#5088 [23:12] <lemon-rev> im trying to do a live chatty thing
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#5093 [23:19] <tpopcaz> ok so if i host it on one computer i cant connect with localhost or my ip on my other computer if I host it I can connect with localhost only
#5094 [23:20] <GuybrushThreepwood> hi all
#5095 [23:21] <Kealper> tpopcaz: is there a firewall or antivirus on the computer you are hosting on?
#5096 [23:21] <Kealper> ello GuybrushThreepwood
#5097 [23:21] <GuybrushThreepwood> hey
#5098 [23:21] <tpopcaz> there all turned off. I dont get it worked fine for 3 days until today
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#5100 [23:22] <GuybrushThreepwood> i have 666 emails...creepy
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#5102 [23:23] <the_late_man> Oo
#5103 [23:23] <the_late_man> just in time for christmas
#5104 [23:24] <tpopcaz> could it just be the beta messing it up
#5105 [23:24] <Kealper> it could
#5106 [23:24] <Jorc> Kealper
#5107 [23:24] <Jorc> I just heard some music play
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#5109 [23:24] <Jorc> while verrry deep down at some lava
#5110 [23:24] <Jorc> But I cant see an opening to a dungeon
#5111 [23:24] <Kealper> yea, smp does randomly play music lol
#5112 [23:25] <Kealper> music does not mean that you are near a spawner :S
#5113 [23:25] <Jorc> Oh, so there wont be one round?
#5114 [23:25] <Jorc> It was that mystical music though :b if you know what i mean
#5115 [23:25] <Jorc> The one that lasts like 6 seconds and then doesnt play again..
#5116 [23:25] <Kealper> that's just C418 lol
#5117 [23:25] <Jorc> Since I have music turned off
#5118 [23:25] <Kealper> O.o
#5119 [23:25] <Jorc> yea
#5120 [23:25] <Kealper> iono
#5121 [23:26] <Jorc> music turned off and i heard some weird mystic music
#5122 [23:26] <Jorc> Whats it mean?
#5123 [23:26] <tpopcaz> and i dont get why its saying my ports closed now
#5124 [23:28] <Kealper> tpopcaz: did your internal ip change?
#5125 [23:29] <tpopcaz> i checked and it looks the same
#5126 [23:31] <tpopcaz> but now when i goto a site and type that port it says it cant see me
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#5128 [23:32] <tpopcaz> should i try resetting my router?
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#5130 [23:32] <Kealper> could be....
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#5132 [23:33] <Kealper> i'm afk
#5133 [23:33] <Jorc> Oh kealper btw
#5134 [23:33] <Jorc> I found out now.
#5135 [23:34] <Jorc> it means there's a cave nearby with a 0 light level - just so you know if anyone else ever asks :)
#5136 [23:34] <AnthroHuskey> im trying to figure out how to use this bowmod i found in the forums
#5137 [23:35] <Kealper> AnthroHuskey: what did AuBot tell you when you joined?
#5138 [23:35] <AnthroHuskey> uh its not about a mod for the server or the client
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#5140 [23:35] <AnthroHuskey> it turns the bow into a raygun
#5141 [23:35] <Kealper> that would be a client mod
#5142 [23:36] <AnthroHuskey> how is that a client mod thats more a skin
#5143 [23:36] <Kealper> do you have to actually modify the client?
#5144 [23:36] <AnthroHuskey> not that im aware of
#5145 [23:36] <AnthroHuskey> its like a skin for the weapon
#5146 [23:36] <Kealper> is it a .zip file?
#5147 [23:37] <AnthroHuskey> its in a .rar file but im trying to find out which file i actualy use or drop itno the texter folder
#5148 [23:37] <Kealper> what does it have in said rar file?
#5149 [23:38] <AnthroHuskey> let me check
#5150 [23:38] <Blue_Star> can i kill monsters with electric ( redstone stuff ) ?
#5151 [23:38] <Kealper> Blue_Star: not unless you beat them with it
#5152 [23:38] <Blue_Star> damm i wish i can shock them :)
#5153 [23:39] <AnthroHuskey> bow.ogg, bn.class,drr.ogg
#5154 [23:39] <Kealper> it's a mod
#5155 [23:39] <AnthroHuskey> then two pics of the gun and arrows which are cute lil laser beams
#5156 [23:39] <AnthroHuskey> alright i figuard thatm but not a client mod
#5157 [23:40] <Jorc> Is the only use of Obsidian to make a portal to the nether?
#5158 [23:40] <AnthroHuskey> im not actauly changing the face of mine craft just the bow
#5159 [23:40] <Kealper> correct
#5160 [23:40] <Kealper> and AnthroHuskey it's still considered a mod
#5161 [23:40] <AnthroHuskey> fine fine
#5162 [23:40] <AnthroHuskey> so where can i find obsidian?
#5163 [23:40] <Kealper> as it requires you to go in and modify the minecraft binaries
#5164 [23:40] <Kealper> pour water on standing lava
#5165 [23:41] <the_late_man> anthro
#5166 [23:41] <Kealper> you need a diamond pick to mine it
#5167 [23:41] <AnthroHuskey> lol fuck that then im not screwing with code
#5168 [23:41] <the_late_man> where lava and water meet, there you must journey to find your treasure
#5169 [23:41] <Kealper> gg
#5170 [23:41] <AnthroHuskey> thansk for the heads up kealper
#5171 [23:42] <AnthroHuskey> and sweet thats easy now where can i find diamond?
#5172 [23:42] <Kealper> deeeep underground
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#5174 [23:42] <Kealper> about the same place you'd find lava
#5175 [23:42] <the_late_man> like 10 squares off bedrock?
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#5177 [23:42] <Kealper> bring iron picks an a few empty buckets
#5178 [23:42] <the_late_man> I've found lava above sea level
#5179 [23:42] <Kealper> those are random lakes
#5180 [23:42] <Kealper> most of it is deep
#5181 [23:42] <the_late_man> it was an awesome waterfall
#5182 [23:42] <AnthroHuskey> im curiosu is there every any like hints to what your getting close to well underground?
#5183 [23:43] <the_late_man> off a floating island
#5184 [23:43] <AnthroHuskey> niiiiice fine
#5185 [23:43] <AnthroHuskey> find
#5186 [23:44] <the_late_man> not really
#5187 [23:44] <the_late_man> made a huge forest fire
#5188 [23:44] <AnthroHuskey> hmmm so i just gotta find a mine leading waaay down then
#5189 [23:44] <AnthroHuskey> LOL
#5190 [23:44] <the_late_man> um
#5191 [23:44] <the_late_man> just dig
#5192 [23:44] * Kealper is actually going to bed now
#5192 [23:44] <the_late_man> 2*2 spiral staircase
#5193 [23:45] <the_late_man> that's what I do
#5194 [23:45] <AnthroHuskey> and you find diamond easily?
#5195 [23:45] <the_late_man> totally.
#5196 [23:45] <the_late_man> that's why it's diamond.
#5197 [23:45] <the_late_man> ...
#5198 [23:45] <AnthroHuskey> >.>
#5199 [23:45] <AnthroHuskey> sure
#5200 [23:46] <Acaceol> Is it possible to place doors horizontally?
#5201 [23:46] <AnthroHuskey> 6i been wondering that too
#5202 [23:47] <the_late_man> it's not...
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#5204 [23:47] <Acaceol> Ah, darn
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#5206 [23:48] <the_late_man> hey vector
#5207 [23:49] <Vekter> Hi. I'm running the Minecraft client on Windows 7 64-bit, and get horrible input lag from my mouse. About 0.5 seconds; very annoying! Anyone know how to fix it?
#5208 [23:49] <the_late_man> wow, was that pretyped?
#5209 [23:49] <Vekter> 120 WPM.
#5210 [23:49] * the_late_man resists the urge to recorrect some gram
#5210 [23:49] <the_late_man> hurk
#5211 [23:49] * the_late_man is now known as aetherian
#5212 [23:51] <Vekter> Anyone?
#5213 [23:51] <aetherian> no. tyvm :)
#5214 [23:51] <aetherian> erm
#5215 [23:52] <aetherian> I mean,
#5216 [23:52] <Kealper> wait.... Vekter seriously?
#5217 [23:52] <Vekter> Yes.
#5218 [23:52] <aetherian> heh
#5219 [23:52] <Vekter> Why?
#5220 [23:52] <Kealper> damn...dvorak or qwerty?
#5221 [23:53] <Vekter> ... QWERTY. Don't know what difference that makes with mouse lag
#5222 [23:53] <Kealper> nothing, it is just impressive lol
#5223 [23:53] <Vekter> -_-
#5224 [23:53] <Kealper> and...about mouse lag...
#5225 [23:53] <Kealper> as in anything game-related just goes half a second slower than it should for mouse stuff?
#5226 [23:54] <Vekter> Yes
#5227 [23:54] <Kealper> O.o
#5228 [23:54] <Vekter> About half a second
#5229 [23:54] <Vekter> It's called input lag
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#5231 [23:54] <Vekter> Could possibly be mouse accel but I fixed that ages ago
#5232 [23:54] <Kealper> no idea on that...what sort of mouse do you have?
#5233 [23:54] <Vekter> Logitech wireless. Worked fine on XP.
#5234 [23:55] <Kealper> wireless....ehh...is everything laggy or just the game? lol
#5235 [23:55] <Vekter> Just the game. Again, the mouse itself is likely not the problem, as it worked fine when I played in XP.
#5236 [23:56] <Kealper> have you tried with a different mouse? it might just be the drivers for your specific mouse not being kind to minecraft
#5237 [23:56] <Vekter> I don't have another mouse.
#5238 [23:57] <Kealper> well, if i had to guess, it's something with that mouse's drivers and minecraft...
#5239 [23:57] <Kealper> do you know how to uninstall the driver?
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#5242 [23:58] <Vekter> Yes, but why would I want to uninstall the driver?
#5243 [23:58] <Kealper> no idea....just a suggestion
#5244 [23:58] <Kealper> but if i were in that situation, i'd give that a go, since it could be the driver
#5245 [23:58] <Kealper> have you restarted your computer lately?
#5246 [23:58] <Acaceol> If you're using the Logitech driver, uninstalling the driver would probably make your OS recognize it and slap the default Microsoft driver on it
#5247 [23:59] <Vekter> I'm using the default MS driver
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