#1 [00:00] <Acaceol> Might want to try the Logitech one then
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#4 [00:05] <cr6564> .
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#6 [00:05] <Kealper> :SA
#7 [00:05] <Kealper> :S*
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#9 [00:06] <Kealper> Amnesia: Dark Decent is 50% off and i'm broke u.u
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#13 [00:09] <Jorc> Is there a way I can find where Ive walked? I walked somewhere far away and built some mines shaft things but I died and catn find the way back.
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#16 [00:09] <Kealper> no Jorc
#17 [00:09] <Jorc> hmm ok
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#21 [00:11] <Vekter> Woah
#22 [00:11] <fork> where do i grab the beta server from
#23 [00:11] <Vekter> That was odd
#24 [00:11] <Kealper> !server
#25 [00:11] <Kealper> there
#26 [00:11] <fork> thanks
#27 [00:11] <fork> first link is dead
#28 [00:11] <Kealper> O.o
#29 [00:11] <Acaceol> Is there any way to use an Alpha server?
#30 [00:12] <Kealper> hmm....i may have failed with that
#31 [00:12] <Kealper> wow...really? minecraft_server.exe and Minecraft_Server.exe are two different files according to whatever they use to host their stuff
#32 [00:12] <fork> which is beta :|
#33 [00:13] <fork> why the hell isnt the version in the filename
#34 [00:13] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft_Server.exe?v=1292908331721
#35 [00:13] * Kealper updates that module
#35 [00:13] <fork> from the front page?
#36 [00:13] <fork> er from mc.net/downoad.jsp
#37 [00:13] <Kealper> hmm?
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#39 [00:14] <Kealper> yea
#40 [00:14] <lemon-rev> doh, updated java, evenually
#41 [00:14] <lemon-rev> still server f'up
#42 [00:14] <lemon-rev> :(
#43 [00:14] <Kealper> :S
#44 [00:15] <Kealper> !reload mod_motd
#45 [00:15] <Kealper> !server
#46 [00:15] <lemon-rev> openal32.dll/ntdll.dll/kernel32.dll/msvcr71.dll/jvm.dll all have codes
#47 [00:16] <Kealper> lemon-rev: wat?
#48 [00:16] <Kealper> and now to check that the client links work
#49 [00:16] <Kealper> !client
#50 [00:16] <lemon-rev> ok
#51 [00:16] <Kealper> alrighty! now that that's fixed
#52 [00:17] <lemon-rev> i have or redownloaded the exe this afternoon that fixed the server.exe from saying old server
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#54 [00:17] <lemon-rev> the jar or the jarva version of the server i cant get it to run as easily
#55 [00:17] <Kealper> eh? lol
#56 [00:17] <lemon-rev> the alpha server.exe was running just fine,
#57 [00:17] <lemon-rev> beta server
#58 [00:17] <lemon-rev> is playable for 2 mins
#59 [00:18] <lemon-rev> then crash with java exeption
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#61 [00:18] <lemon-rev> people where like complaining like shit on here this morning
#62 [00:18] <lemon-rev> about it
#63 [00:18] <Kealper> what's the exception say? post the whole error on pastebin.com
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#65 [00:19] <Rick_bardock> hello
#66 [00:19] <lemon-rev> http://pastebin.com/JSaXEGBG < kealper
#67 [00:19] <lemon-rev> and thats with new java
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#69 [00:20] <Rick_bardock> can someone help me please? i just upgraded my graphics driver but minecraft cannot locate my openGL thing
#70 [00:20] <Rick_bardock> what do i do?
#71 [00:20] <Acaceol> Does anyone /not/ get the disconnect.overflow thing?
#72 [00:21] <lemon-rev> that overflow thing is what im trying to get solved now
#73 [00:21] <zouhair> works nicely for me
#74 [00:21] <Acaceol> lemon-rev, you're working on the game?
#75 [00:21] <Kealper> lemon-rev: reinstall your audio drivers
#76 [00:21] <lemon-rev> i have updateed my audio drivers
#77 [00:22] <Acaceol> Audio drivers?
#78 [00:22] <lemon-rev> acually installing new ones, that was just the other day
#79 [00:22] <Kealper> the problem occured with OpenAL.dll
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#81 [00:22] <Acaceol> In the server or in the clients?
#82 [00:22] <Rick_bardock> can someone help me please? i just upgraded my graphics driver but minecraft cannot locate my openGL thing can anyone help me with this?
#83 [00:22] <Kealper> client
#84 [00:22] <Acaceol> Huh, alright, thanks Kealper
#85 [00:23] <lemon-rev> ok, but it lists other things as well
#86 [00:23] <lemon-rev> so how i fix a openal.dll if drivers are correct
#87 [00:23] <Kealper> those are just dlls that it had open
#88 [00:23] <Kealper> i really don't know, if you drivers are up to date and correct
#89 [00:23] <lemon-rev> hm
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#92 [00:25] <Con> Chanserv!
#93 [00:25] <Con> Devoice me!
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#95 [00:25] <Con> Devoice me!
#96 [00:25] * Con stabs Chanserv
#96 [00:25] <Kealper> I'm sorry Dave, I'm affraid I can't let you do that.
#97 [00:26] <fork> getting a disconnection error
#98 [00:27] <fork> says overflow
#99 [00:27] <Kealper> fork: common error as of this last beta update
#100 [00:27] <fork> damn.
#101 [00:28] <fork> nothing can be done eh
#102 [00:28] <MarserBlood> nope
#103 [00:28] <MarserBlood> only thing you can do is wait till patch
#104 [00:28] <fork> lol..
#105 [00:29] <Kealper> so like...my neighbor's boyfriend just threw her down some stairs in a drunken rage
#106 [00:29] <fork> is she hot
#107 [00:30] * Kealper sits patiently with a hachet
#107 [00:30] <fork> have you no firearms?
#108 [00:30] <Kealper> high powered pellet gun, but it's a bit too small to look like a real weapon
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#110 [00:30] <fork> .177 of .22
#111 [00:31] <fork> or*
#112 [00:31] <Kealper> .177 :S
#113 [00:31] <Kealper> i'd like to get a .22 one
#114 [00:31] <fork> a decent powered pellet gun is more than lethal enough
#115 [00:31] <fork> and silent enough
#116 [00:31] <fork> :x
#117 [00:31] <Kealper> true, true
#118 [00:31] <fork> i used to hunt bird with a .22 breakbarrel
#119 [00:31] <fork> quiet and efficient
#120 [00:32] <Kealper> man, i'd love a breakbarrel
#121 [00:32] <Kealper> mine is just a Crosman 760 with a small scope :S
#122 [00:32] <Kealper> powerful enough if you go past 10 pumps though lol
#123 [00:33] <fork> i forgot the brand of the one i had as a kid
#124 [00:33] <fork> but it was very old
#125 [00:33] <Kealper> lol
#126 [00:33] <fork> but good and fairly accurate
#127 [00:33] <fork> powerful enough to take down decent sized birds
#128 [00:33] <Kealper> i'd like to get a better one...i'm spot-on with my current :S
#129 [00:33] <Jorc> I found a dungeon :) got like 7 creepers in it though - Whats best way to get rid of em all?
#130 [00:33] <fork> tnt
#131 [00:33] <Zenreich> Okay so
#132 [00:33] <fork> or bow and arrow, safest
#133 [00:34] <Kealper> tnt is the funnest though
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#135 [00:34] <Zenreich> When I join a server, the chunk around my loads, but none other do, and I'm unable to chat. I can fall off the map, but 10 seconds later I get a socket error and I disconnect.
#136 [00:34] <Jorc> hmm okay :)
#137 [00:34] <Zenreich> I don't have any kind of firewall up.
#138 [00:34] <fork> haha
#139 [00:34] <fork> patch needed asap :|
#140 [00:35] <Zenreich> oh wow I think uh
#141 [00:35] <Zenreich> I found a fix, have to use another user~
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#143 [00:35] <Acaceol> Is the disconnect.overflow client or server side?
#144 [00:35] <Zenreich> Acaceol, SocketException and Socket Write Error
#145 [00:35] <Zenreich> And I dont have an Atheros card.
#146 [00:35] <Kealper> alrighty, cops are here, i can put back the hachet now
#147 [00:36] <Kealper> hatchet?
#148 [00:36] <Zenreich> This suddenly started happening a couple days ago, before that everything ran smooth
#149 [00:36] <Zenreich> Kealper, hatchet
#150 [00:36] <Kealper> danke
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#152 [00:36] <fork> lol crazy
#153 [00:36] <fork> where the hell do you live
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#155 [00:36] <Zenreich> k brb gonna switch to a guest account and see if this works
#156 [00:36] <Zenreich> fork, drunken boyfriends are everywhere
#157 [00:36] <Kealper> southeast michigan :S
#158 [00:36] <Zenreich> oh wow.
#159 [00:37] <fork> i never understood that
#160 [00:37] <fork> when i get drunk i get mellow and chill
#161 [00:37] <Kealper> no, not Detroit lol
#162 [00:37] <fork> and i do it often
#163 [00:37] <Kealper> same
#164 [00:37] <fork> and i had a fucked up childhood just like everyone else so no excuses for that
#165 [00:37] <Zenreich> fork, well would you consider yourself a relaxed person?
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#167 [00:37] <fork> just break his fucking legs and call it good
#168 [00:37] <Kealper> about the only thing different with me when i'm drunk, is i talk more, but i'm still the same me :S
#169 [00:37] <fork> very
#170 [00:37] <Zenreich> fork: Thing with alcohol is you break down the social barriers
#171 [00:37] <fork> people who know me compare me to people like bob marley lol
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#173 [00:37] <fork> not me
#174 [00:37] <Zenreich> fork: Relaxed people become mellow, aggressive people break down those walls of control and flip a shit.
#175 [00:38] <fork> my social barriers are about 500 bricks thick of obsidian, good luck
#176 [00:38] <Zenreich> Well are you able to talk to people easier when you're more or less intoxicated?
#177 [00:38] <Kealper> lol fork
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#179 [00:38] <fork> neither
#180 [00:38] <Zenreich> huh
#181 [00:38] <Zenreich> Anyway.
#182 [00:38] <fork> avoidant personality disorder or some crap
#183 [00:38] <Kealper> O.o
#184 [00:38] <Zenreich> I got aggressive from alcohol once
#185 [00:38] <Zenreich> it was nuts.
#186 [00:38] <Kealper> o.o
#187 [00:38] <Zenreich> I was drinking jager one night, before passing out
#188 [00:38] <Zenreich> Next day I was -pissed-
#189 [00:38] <Zenreich> for absolutely no reason
#190 [00:38] <fork> i only get aggressive when people piss me off. its rare, doesnt matter if im drunk or not
#191 [00:39] <Zenreich> Passed out at like 2am and woke at 6am
#192 [00:39] <Zenreich> So
#193 [00:39] <Zenreich> I almost punched some kid's face in that day :/
#194 [00:39] <Kealper> lol
#195 [00:39] <Zenreich> Probably had a negative dream that night.
#196 [00:39] <Zenreich> which just set that whole day out
#197 [00:39] <Zenreich> ANYWAY
#198 [00:39] <Zenreich> Brb, trying alternate user account
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#200 [00:41] <Acaceol> Zenreich, what do you mean by that? (<Zenreich> Acaceol, SocketException and Socket Write Error)
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#203 [00:50] <Zenreich> Acaceol, that's the error it gives me when I disconnect
#204 [00:50] <Zenreich> java.net.SocketException, etc
#205 [00:50] <Acaceol> Ah
#206 [00:50] <Acaceol> Alright
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#208 [00:50] <Zenreich> However, with the hint of using an alternate user account
#209 [00:50] <Zenreich> I figured:
#210 [00:50] <Zenreich> What if I have an %APPDATA%\Roaming folder thats messing with shit
#211 [00:50] <Zenreich> And I do, so I removed it, and imma try now.
#212 [00:51] <Zenreich> ... I think it worked.
#213 [00:52] <Zenreich> Nope.
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#216 [00:54] <huddler> Hi have problem
#217 [00:54] <huddler> I can Change my nickname on Game?
#218 [00:55] <huddler> E.t.c have now nifrez but i want have NiFreZ
#219 [00:55] <Kealper> no
#220 [00:56] <huddler> Or i can write to Supprot with Please to change my nickname?
#221 [00:57] <fork> s/h/c/
#222 [00:57] <fork> :x
#223 [00:57] <Kealper> nicknames can not be changed
#224 [00:57] <Kealper> for any reason
#225 [00:57] <Kealper> words from Notch himself
#226 [00:58] <Kealper> i've read plans to have that option availible later on, but for now, you're stuck with it
#227 [00:59] <huddler> ok thanks good day
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#229 [00:59] * Kealper waits for java to finish updating
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#236 [01:06] <Kealper> mother of god...
#237 [01:06] <Kealper> hosting my mc server off of my own computer instead of my dedi....omg that runs so nice
#238 [01:07] <Kealper> so flawlessly that i actually had to double check and make sure i was actually playing multiplayer and not single player...lol
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#240 [01:09] * the_late_man back
#240 [01:09] * the_late_man is now known as netherian
#241 [01:09] <netherian> I've gone "under"cover
#242 [01:09] <netherian> ...lol
#243 [01:10] <netherian> what, I don't even get a pity laugh?
#244 [01:10] <Kealper> lol
#245 [01:10] <Kealper> happy? xD
#246 [01:10] <Zenreich> Kealper, if its on your own computer then it would run as well as singleplayer.
#247 [01:10] <Zenreich> For other people, on the other hand, it'll probably lag like a whore.
#248 [01:10] <Kealper> i'm too distracted with how awesome this runs
#249 [01:11] <netherian> only if you actually got it, kell
#250 [01:11] <netherian> :3
#251 [01:11] <Kealper> well, i would assume that it should not be any worse when on a competent server on the same lan
#252 [01:13] <Kealper> it's also only did the warning can't keep up when someone joins O.o
#253 [01:14] <Kealper> my server box normally spams that
#254 [01:14] <Kealper> damn i need to get a new server :S
#255 [01:15] <netherian> heh
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#257 [01:17] <Jorc> What do music records do?
#258 [01:18] <netherian> uh
#259 [01:18] <netherian> play music
#260 [01:18] <netherian> when you put the in a jukebox
#261 [01:18] <Jorc> oh so no actual useful use?
#262 [01:18] <netherian> there is a useful use
#263 [01:19] <Jorc> which is?
#264 [01:19] <netherian> I shall restate
#265 [01:19] <netherian> <netherian> uh
#266 [01:19] <netherian> <netherian> play music
#267 [01:19] <netherian> <netherian> when you put the in a jukebox
#268 [01:20] <netherian> ^^
#269 [01:20] <Jorc> Well thats not useful imo
#270 [01:20] <netherian> well
#271 [01:20] <netherian> uh
#272 [01:20] <netherian> your opinion must be wrong :)
#273 [01:20] <netherian> hee hee
#274 [01:21] <Jorc> I will never use it, therefore it is not useful to me
#275 [01:21] <netherian> well, I don't care if you will ever use it, it is still useful
#276 [01:21] <netherian> granted
#277 [01:21] <netherian> such things are relative
#278 [01:21] <netherian> some people call hatchets useless
#279 [01:22] <Jorc> please stop talking
#280 [01:22] <[ssen]> :/
#281 [01:22] * [ssen] is now known as ssen
#282 [01:22] <netherian> no. what? nooooooooooooooooo
#283 [01:22] <ssen> Do it
#284 [01:22] <ssen> Just do it
#285 [01:23] <ssen> Be like Nike
#286 [01:23] <netherian> ntyvm
#287 [01:23] <ssen> have a nice day cafe
#288 [01:23] <ssen> says the dog
#289 [01:23] <ssen> where is the tofu located
#290 [01:23] <ssen> and thus we exist
#291 [01:23] <ssen> if, therefore is.
#292 [01:23] <ssen> ergo, ssen.
#293 [01:23] <ssen> Do you know of the medula?
#294 [01:23] <netherian> 'o_O
#295 [01:24] <netherian> aaaaaanyway
#296 [01:24] <ssen> Well, that shut you up nicely.
#297 [01:24] <ssen> I'm off.
#298 [01:24] <netherian> it did not
#299 [01:24] <netherian> =o
#300 [01:24] <ssen> =o (========8
#301 [01:25] <ssen> Don't leave your mouth open
#302 [01:25] <ssen> You silly man you.
#303 [01:25] <LG_Legacy> Knock it off
#304 [01:25] <ssen> Haha.
#305 [01:25] <ssen> Alright then.
#306 [01:25] <netherian> le's try to ease down on sexual jokes, mmkay
#307 [01:26] * netherian is away: mum
#307 [01:27] <ssen> Man.
#308 [01:27] <ssen> That is gross.
#309 [01:28] * netherian is back (gone 00:02:26)
#309 [01:28] <netherian> and that's not what I meant, you sick bast-
#310 [01:29] <ssen> What?
#311 [01:30] <fork> well NASA sucks
#312 [01:30] <fork> cant get a good shot of the lunar eclipse from NASA but can from other sources lol
#313 [01:30] <ssen> They really do.
#314 [01:30] <ssen> They haven't been getting much done.
#315 [01:30] <fork> 'geniuses' huh
#316 [01:30] <ssen> But then again,
#317 [01:30] <ssen> You can't really complain much
#318 [01:30] <ssen> Ever since the space race,
#319 [01:30] <fork> yes i can
#320 [01:30] <fork> it's my tax dollars
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#322 [01:30] <ssen> the president has really been lowering their budget
#323 [01:30] <ssen> They work with what they have,
#324 [01:31] <ssen> because they are now pretty much a lost cause as far as congres is concerned.
#325 [01:31] <fork> for the most part yea
#326 [01:32] <netherian> lunar eclipse for me is like in a little over an hour
#327 [01:32] <fork> where are you
#328 [01:32] <ssen> 2008 17,318 0.60% 17,138
#329 [01:32] <netherian> somewhere
#330 [01:32] <netherian> over the rainbow
#331 [01:32] <ssen> That was NASA's budget for 2008
#332 [01:32] <ssen> THat is nothing
#333 [01:32] <ssen> .06% of federal budget
#334 [01:32] <ssen> as in
#335 [01:32] <ssen> if the fed had 100 billion dollars to spend
#336 [01:33] <ssen> it would receive only six million of that,
#337 [01:33] <ssen> which seems like a lot
#338 [01:33] <ssen> except just one of the apollo rockets was something like one billion dollars to make
#339 [01:33] <ssen> And employee costs
#340 [01:33] <ssen> and research materials and innovations
#341 [01:33] <fork> nerd costs
#342 [01:33] <ssen> indeed.
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#344 [01:33] <ssen> They have to save for years
#345 [01:33] <ssen> just to get anything done
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#347 [01:34] <fork> sounds like me
#348 [01:34] <ssen> haha
#349 [01:34] <ssen> hahaha
#350 [01:34] <fork> they should hire me, im good at that
#351 [01:34] <Tiktalik> Auggggh.
#352 [01:34] <Tiktalik> http://tinypic.com/r/21bsz6w/7
#353 [01:34] <ssen> windows key + R
#354 [01:34] <ssen> Type dxdiag
#355 [01:34] <netherian> haha wtf
#356 [01:34] <ssen> hardware test
#357 [01:34] <ssen> post results
#358 [01:34] <fork> hm
#359 [01:34] <fork> how do you display the diag info in mc
#360 [01:34] <ssen> Screenshot
#361 [01:35] <Tiktalik> Look at my screenshot.
#362 [01:35] <ssen> Yes,
#363 [01:35] <ssen> we want a screenshot of your hardware diagnostic results
#364 [01:35] <fork> yea beta messed everything up
#365 [01:35] <fork> awesome
#366 [01:35] <ssen> Oh screw it.
#367 [01:35] <ssen> fork can help you
#368 [01:35] <ssen> I'm going to go fap/read
#369 [01:35] <netherian> OOhh
#370 [01:35] <ssen> either or
#371 [01:35] <Tiktalik> So glad I kept old jars around.
#372 [01:36] <Tiktalik> Stoopid tree lighting bugs.
#373 [01:38] <TheBix> minecraft.net is down
#374 [01:38] <TheBix> why?
#375 [01:39] <TheBix> is he getting ddosed
#376 [01:41] <GLaDOS> no
#377 [01:41] <GLaDOS> he shut the webserver down
#378 [01:41] <TheBix> then why
#379 [01:41] <GLaDOS> lulz
#380 [01:41] <TheBix> do you know?
#381 [01:41] <TheBix> oh lols
#382 [01:41] <TheBix> rly?
#383 [01:41] <GLaDOS> no no
#384 [01:41] <GLaDOS> the DDoS protection is being a bitch
#385 [01:41] <Tiktalik> is nawt noob.
#386 [01:41] <GLaDOS> seriously
#387 [01:42] <Tiktalik> Minecraft.net is most decidedly not down.
#388 [01:42] <TheBix> maybe its because I've been connecting to it a lot
#389 [01:42] * GLaDOS kicked Tiktalik from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: IT IS, BOON)
#390 [01:42] <GLaDOS> erm
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#392 [01:42] <GLaDOS> noob*
#393 [01:42] <GLaDOS> noob*
#394 [01:42] <Kealper> XD
#395 [01:42] <TheBix> and its not serving me because I connected a lot or what?
#396 [01:42] <GLaDOS> yesh
#397 [01:42] <Tiktalik> Dude, checked http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/minecraft.net
#398 [01:43] <TheBix> yeah it says its up
#399 [01:43] <TheBix> but guess what
#400 [01:43] <TheBix> isminecraftdown.net says its down
#401 [01:43] <fork> It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#402 [01:43] <TheBix> oh wait its back
#403 [01:43] <Kealper> Tiktalik: those sites only check to see that they can open a connection to said machine
#404 [01:43] <Kealper> so they are not always right
#405 [01:43] <Tiktalik> Oh, drat it.
#406 [01:43] <Kealper> also, you might be getting a cached copy of said downforeasahas
#407 [01:44] <Kealper> ctrl+F5 is your friend
#408 [01:44] <netherian> so is alt-F4
#409 [01:45] <TheBix> Kealper: no then either the guy who wrote the webserver is retarded
#410 [01:45] <TheBix> or the guy who wrote his browser is retarded
#411 [01:45] <Tiktalik> @netherian Har har.
#412 [01:45] <netherian> <3
#413 [01:45] * Kealper is confused at TheBix
#413 [01:46] <TheBix> Kealper: HTTP has headers for specifying weather something is to be cached
#414 [01:46] <Kealper> OH
#415 [01:46] <netherian> who here saw tron?
#416 [01:46] <TheBix> ME
#417 [01:46] <Tiktalik> ME
#418 [01:46] <TheBix> I got a tee shirt
#419 [01:46] <Tiktalik> Cool
#420 [01:46] <TheBix> I saw it pre release
#421 [01:46] <netherian> heh
#422 [01:46] <TheBix> before it came out because I'm cool
#423 [01:46] <netherian> I saw yesterday, and today
#424 [01:46] <Tiktalik> Oh, tron legacy?
#425 [01:46] <Kealper> yarr harr fiddley-dee
#426 [01:46] <netherian> mmhmm
#427 [01:46] <LG_Legacy> Ping
#428 [01:46] <Kealper> pong
#429 [01:46] <TheBix> it was shit because I didn't see the first one
#430 [01:46] <netherian> I can't find the old one
#431 [01:47] <netherian> *couldn't
#432 [01:47] <netherian> disney yanked it
#433 [01:47] <Tiktalik> Going to see tron legacy as soon as I can.
#434 [01:47] <LG_Legacy> Ping
#435 [01:47] <netherian> it's hard to even torrent it
#436 [01:47] <TheBix> only good bit was that hot female character
#437 [01:47] <Kealper> Pong!!
#438 [01:47] <LG_Legacy> Shut the hell up
#439 [01:47] <LG_Legacy> >:(
#440 [01:47] <netherian> which hot female?
#441 [01:47] <Kealper> take legacy off ping then lol
#442 [01:47] <LG_Legacy> Nah
#443 [01:47] <LG_Legacy> I get it alot
#444 [01:47] <Kealper> xD
#445 [01:47] <netherian> haha tron legacy pings him?
#446 [01:47] <TheBix> netherian: the guys dads bitch
#447 [01:47] <Kealper> i swear Grey has Grey on ping
#448 [01:47] <Kealper> that or he watches irc too much
#449 [01:47] <netherian> like you?
#450 [01:48] <Kealper> shhhh
#451 [01:48] <TheBix> ....................................................................................................
#452 [01:48] <Kealper> lol
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#454 [01:48] <netherian> 'sokay
#455 [01:48] <netherian> I do to
#456 [01:48] <TheBix> so guys thats the worlds biggest ellipsis
#457 [01:48] <netherian> no...
#458 [01:48] <netherian> ......
#459 [01:48] <netherian> ooh, lunar eclipse
#460 [01:48] <netherian> doo
#461 [01:48] <netherian> doo doo
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#463 [01:49] <netherian> doo
#464 [01:49] <netherian> fail, tik
#465 [01:49] <netherian> I was setting it up
#466 [01:49] <netherian> and you had to ruin it ;_;
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#468 [01:49] <netherian> jerk
#469 [01:49] <Kealper> eh? lol
#470 [01:49] <netherian> twilight zone...
#471 [01:49] <netherian> gettit?
#472 [01:49] <Kealper> LUL
#473 [01:49] <fogWork> GreyfatherVulpine, UncleKealper :P
#474 [01:49] <Kealper> gg
#475 [01:50] <netherian> aw crud
#476 [01:50] <netherian> my chair just fell apart
#477 [01:50] <TheBix> so guys
#478 [01:50] <Kealper> sad thing, is i'm actually an uncle and had the nickname uncle ken in hs....looonnng story
#479 [01:50] <netherian> 'o_O
#480 [01:50] <TheBix> why does notch host the webserver on the same machine that does the authentication
#481 [01:50] <TheBix> its retarded
#482 [01:52] <netherian> well I got the screw back in
#483 [01:52] <netherian> now I have 2/4 screws for the back of my seat, and still 4/4 screws for the bottom of my seat
#484 [01:53] <TheBix> i think its back now
#485 [01:53] <netherian> granted, I've screwed in a bunch of... uh... screws in recently
#486 [01:53] <Con> netherian = aetherian = the_late_man = BadNetMan?
#487 [01:53] <netherian> mmhmm
#488 [01:53] <Kealper> Con: bingo
#489 [01:53] <netherian> netherian is only at night
#490 [01:53] <netherian> aetherian is my primary
#491 [01:54] <netherian> and BadNetMan is when I cycle through all three nicks
#492 [01:54] <netherian> the_late_man is probs my most common, being in the middle
#493 [01:54] <Kealper> storage carts work :O
#494 [01:54] <netherian> and actually, the_late_man comes from an awesome song.
#495 [01:54] <netherian> mmhmm
#496 [01:54] <netherian> kudos to the one who guesses it
#497 [01:55] <netherian> it's at (very near) the beginning
#498 [01:55] <Kealper> that one album you have....with those really long songs
#499 [01:55] <Con> the early man never borrows from the late man?
#500 [01:55] <netherian> nonono
#501 [01:55] <netherian> different one
#502 [01:55] <netherian> kealp
#503 [01:55] <netherian> same genre, technically
#504 [01:55] <netherian> :3
#505 [01:56] <Kealper> bah
#506 [01:56] <netherian> :333
#507 [01:56] <netherian> <:3
#508 [01:56] <netherian> ...fail combination
#509 [01:56] <Kealper> >:3
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#511 [01:56] <fogWork> :|
#512 [01:56] <netherian> hammer...hammer...hammer...hammer...hammer...hammer...hammer...
#513 [01:57] <netherian> listening to pink floyd's the wall, currently
#514 [01:57] <netherian> good album
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#516 [01:57] <Kealper> lol
#517 [01:58] <netherian> hey red rackle
#518 [01:58] <netherian> ooh yeah, it's a happy album too
#519 [01:58] <Rackle> Hello
#520 [01:58] * Kealper throws on some Floyd
#520 [01:58] <Rackle> :)
#521 [01:58] <netherian> which album, kel
#522 [01:58] <netherian> kelly?
#523 [01:58] <kontroll> Floyd?
#524 [01:58] <netherian> heh
#525 [01:58] <kontroll> Mm.
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#527 [01:58] * kontroll is listening to Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
#527 [01:58] <kontroll> ;D
#528 [01:58] <Kealper> probably just the one song that's stuck in my head now lol
#529 [01:58] <netherian> ooh I have that album
#530 [01:58] <Kealper> i can play that on the guitar :O
#531 [01:59] <netherian> I have... ah...
#532 [01:59] <Rackle> I like pink floyd :D
#533 [01:59] <netherian> six albums of pink floyd
#534 [01:59] <netherian> but on of them is "works"
#535 [01:59] <Rackle> I've been having trouble starting minecraft since beta :3 I keep getting stuck on the purple Mojang Specifications screen
#536 [01:59] <netherian> aaaahhhhhhh
#537 [01:59] <Rackle> I dont suppose anyone else has had this problem/knows a fix?
#538 [01:59] * netherian commits suicide
#538 [02:00] <netherian> heh... now I'm /really/ going down
#539 [02:00] <Kealper> Rackle: lots of people having issues right now, wait until Notch gets up
#540 [02:00] <netherian> ...lul
#541 [02:00] <Rackle> Fair enough...
#542 [02:00] <netherian> there must have been a door there in the wall... when I came in..
#543 [02:01] <Kealper> damnit stupid fucking server is giving me the dreaded overflow DC now
#544 [02:01] <netherian> rawfl
#545 [02:01] <fogWork> Beta awesomeness?
#546 [02:01] <Kealper> totally
#547 [02:01] <netherian> on the wikipedia article for mass suicide
#548 [02:02] <netherian> in the see also
#549 [02:02] <Rackle> ha.
#550 [02:02] <netherian> it hass "lemming"
#551 [02:02] <netherian> heh
#552 [02:02] <Rackle> hehe.
#553 [02:02] <Rackle> I hope they fix pictures soon, I want my non-secret door to be secret
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#555 [02:03] <netherian> hihihi
#556 [02:04] <Kealper> ok i give up for now....Notch needs some damn error handling...like some that just instantly drops the packet and moves on to the next instead of just DCing
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#560 [02:05] <Con> random
#561 [02:05] <Kealper> indeed
#562 [02:05] <Con> 4:45
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#564 [02:05] <Kealper> eh?
#565 [02:06] <Con> It's glowing on the clock!
#566 [02:06] * Kealper is list
#566 [02:06] <Kealper> lost
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#568 [02:06] <netherian> rofl
#569 [02:06] <fogWork> Just read the patch he released yesterday after the initial beta, that was fun ;P
#570 [02:06] <netherian> lost in what?
#571 [02:06] * Con shoots Kealper with a plunger gun
#571 [02:07] <Kealper> If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
#572 [02:07] <netherian> you!
#573 [02:07] <netherian> yes, you!
#574 [02:07] <netherian> ya need an education!
#575 [02:07] <netherian> stand.... still! would ya!'
#576 [02:08] <netherian> I'm not even listening to them anymore
#577 [02:08] <Mikau> STAND STILL LADDY
#578 [02:08] <Con> where's the plunger?!?
#579 [02:08] <netherian> I'm listening to the god-fething-awesome band
#580 [02:08] <netherian> the moody blues
#581 [02:08] <Kealper> i just wanted to hear Another Brick In The Wall lol
#582 [02:08] <netherian> >.>
#583 [02:09] <netherian> listen to the WHOLE ALBUM YOU BAST-
#584 [02:09] <Kealper> psh.....whole albums ftl
#585 [02:09] <netherian> I listened to it all
#586 [02:09] <netherian> all 80 mins
#587 [02:09] <netherian> more or les
#588 [02:09] <netherian> less
#589 [02:09] <netherian> you know what you need
#590 [02:09] <netherian> to listen to some of the albums I have
#591 [02:09] <Kealper> sleep?
#592 [02:09] <netherian> where each song is around 20 mins
#593 [02:09] <Mikau> SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK
#594 [02:10] <netherian> ikr
#595 [02:10] <Mikau> I have to pee.
#596 [02:10] * Mikau gets a bottle
#596 [02:10] <Kealper> lol
#597 [02:10] * Kealper goes afk
#597 [02:10] <fogWork> :|
#598 [02:10] <netherian> heh
#599 [02:12] <Mikau> That's better.
#600 [02:12] <netherian> vodka, right?
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#602 [02:12] * Kealper is back!
#602 [02:12] <Kealper> i seen that ping >.>
#603 [02:13] <netherian> haha
#604 [02:13] <netherian> I thought you were afk
#605 [02:13] <netherian> :P
#606 [02:13] <Kealper> away from keyboard does not mean away for long lol
#607 [02:13] <netherian> heh
#608 [02:13] <Kealper> i do have some shows i'd like to watch though
#609 [02:13] <Kealper> so i'll be half-afk
#610 [02:13] <netherian> wtf
#611 [02:14] <netherian> wikipedia is all wrong
#612 [02:14] <Kealper> eh?
#613 [02:14] <netherian> "a person who defaces internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."
#614 [02:14] <netherian> as per a troll
#615 [02:14] <netherian> that's all wrong
#616 [02:14] <netherian> a troll is
#617 [02:14] <netherian> anyone who disagrees with me
#618 [02:14] <netherian> :)
#619 [02:14] <Kealper> lol
#620 [02:15] <netherian> ah trolls, dating back to the ring of gryges or wtv
#621 [02:15] <netherian> ima be afk
#622 [02:15] <netherian> to get GOLDFISH
#623 [02:15] <Kealper> o.o
#624 [02:16] * Kealper starts up Pioneer One episode 2
#624 [02:16] <Mikau> I'm a river troll.
#625 [02:16] <Kealper> lol
#626 [02:16] <fogWork> Back to your bridge, Mikau !
#627 [02:16] <Mikau> I live under a bridge, and my most prized possession is a club I like to call "woody"
#628 [02:17] * Kealper refrains from making any jokes about that
#628 [02:17] <netherian> back
#629 [02:17] <netherian> MMM
#630 [02:17] <netherian> goldfish
#631 [02:17] <netherian> err
#632 [02:17] <netherian> creepy, mikau
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#634 [02:19] <netherian> heh
#635 [02:19] <netherian> this channel has more "chatter" than #smp and #mcchatter combines
#636 [02:20] <Kealper> that's how we roll
#637 [02:21] <netherian> hihihi
#638 [02:22] <Mikau> That's how we !roll 1d20
#639 [02:23] * Mikau chortles.
#639 [02:23] <Kealper> i still gotta make that
#640 [02:23] <Mikau> !roll 1d20
#641 [02:23] <Mikau> You broke it!
#642 [02:23] <Kealper> i still gotta make that....lol
#643 [02:23] <Mikau> There's one in #minecraft\
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#648 [02:24] <DukeKottyn> hi all
#649 [02:24] <netherian> hey, with d6's, I roll all sixes... but only is axis and allie
#650 [02:24] <netherian> s
#651 [02:25] <fogWork> Axis & Allies, awesome game
#652 [02:25] <Kealper> i really wish i could get my archiving program working faster on extracting...
#653 [02:25] <feenyx> get a better cpu
#654 [02:25] <Kealper> it's just horrid code for extracting atm
#655 [02:25] <Con> a blackberry bomb!
#656 [02:25] <Kealper> it can archive an entire smp map (~21mb) in about 14 sec
#657 [02:25] <feenyx> well, I'm guessing replacing the cpu would still be easier than rewriting the program
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#659 [02:26] <netherian> oh no
#660 [02:26] <Kealper> rewriting the program costs much less though lol
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#663 [02:26] <Kealper> so...TO THE CODE!
#664 [02:26] <feenyx> also, that's less than a third the size of my smp map :p
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#666 [02:26] <fogWork> Mental state of the coders today: write it sloppy, force new hardware on users? :P
#667 [02:26] <Kealper> yea, this is a pretty new smp map, not very big yet
#668 [02:26] <feenyx> fogWork: whaddayamean today? It's always been like that :p
#669 [02:26] <Kealper> lol fogWork
#670 [02:27] <fogWork> Nuh uh!
#671 [02:27] <Zircon_X> I'd hate to ask something that's probably been asked a dozen times, but does Minecraft show reduced performance since the beta?
#672 [02:27] <Kealper> to be honest i'm still using my proof of concept code for extracting, so it's PAINFULLY slow
#673 [02:27] * Con nods
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#674 [02:27] <netherian> aaahhhhh
#675 [02:27] <fogWork> Zircon_X: yes ;P
#676 [02:27] <Kealper> what they said
#677 [02:27] * netherian kills hisselg
#677 [02:27] <Zircon_X> Okay, is there anythng I can do about it?
#678 [02:27] <fogWork> Join me on my crusade, Zircon_X
#679 [02:27] <Kealper> wait till tomorrow and hope Notch fixes it
#680 [02:28] <Zircon_X> Oh oh oh crusades let's go
#681 [02:28] * fogWork nods
#681 [02:28] <Con> the dog ate all the oil
#682 [02:28] <fogWork> Like in ancient times, we're going to the "holy lands" to slay the infi(notch)del
#683 [02:28] <netherian> PURGE
#684 [02:28] <Zircon_X> Lol I wonder what happened though
#685 [02:29] <fogWork> MAIM KILL BURN!
#686 [02:29] * fogWork coughs
#686 [02:29] * Con eats the dog
#686 [02:29] <Zircon_X> I dunno I just figure the update was rested? So....?
#687 [02:29] <Zircon_X> *tested
#688 [02:29] <fogWork> For about five seconds
#689 [02:29] <Con> no
#690 [02:29] <fogWork> "Looks good brah, push it!"
#691 [02:29] <Con> Likw they'd test it
#692 [02:29] <Con> Like*
#693 [02:29] <Zircon_X> You know it's funny
#694 [02:29] <Kealper> also, you've got to figure (and i have encountered this MANY times)....
#695 [02:29] <Con> Actually, they don't test it
#696 [02:29] <Zircon_X> a friend of mine kept saying but the game, buy the game, buy the game
#697 [02:30] <Zircon_X> So I was like I DO think it looks fun....
#698 [02:30] <Con> Yeah, buy the game buy the game
#699 [02:30] <Zircon_X> SO I bought it
#700 [02:30] <Zircon_X> and now it's broken
#701 [02:30] <Kealper> i test all my production software before i push it to the users, but there are still bugs found that i could not see
#702 [02:30] <fogWork> This is why I stick with classic, even though I bought the game ;P
#703 [02:30] <Con> Classic is good
#704 [02:30] <Kealper> because i (and Notch) can only test said software on the machines that i own, so it might work fine for me, but these bugs are not found until multiple systems start running the code
#705 [02:31] <Kealper> obviously the stuff i write is vastly different than something like minecraft, but the concept of what i;m saying still applies
#706 [02:31] <Zircon_X> Oh I understand that, a friend of mine is in web design and sends me prototypes every day
#707 [02:31] <Zircon_X> becaue it may not display correctly on my machine
#708 [02:31] <Kealper> is that the game probably works fine for the few computers he is able to test it on
#709 [02:31] <Kealper> exactly
#710 [02:31] <Zircon_X> oh well, I have faith that it'll get fixed. Minecraft's a great game ^^
#711 [02:31] <Kealper> software is the same way
#712 [02:32] <Zircon_X> Oh no I undrestand, it's just the perf. drop seems to be universal
#713 [02:32] <Kealper> it behaves differently on different setups, and it's just not possible to test them all
#714 [02:32] <Kealper> i haven't actually noticed much of a performance hit :S
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#716 [02:32] <Kealper> there is a bit when loading chunks, but that is to be expected
#717 [02:32] <fogWork> Kealper: I love having software tested, works just fine on the dev machine but may behave like a drunken betch on other machines
#718 [02:32] <Kealper> lol
#719 [02:32] <Zircon_X> I'm running it on an aging P4 with a gig of RAM
#720 [02:33] <Zircon_X> Gigantic performance drop lol
#721 [02:33] <Zircon_X> ...but att his point it might just be my machine :p
#722 [02:33] * Kealper shudders
#722 [02:33] <Kealper> i point at the machine itself lol
#723 [02:33] <Zircon_X> Seriously...
#724 [02:33] <Zircon_X> But I can't afford a new one ;-;
#725 [02:33] <Kealper> man...this channel is always so distracting when i'm actually trying to do something....
#726 [02:33] <feenyx> yeah, that's why I had to stop #minecraft
#727 [02:34] <feenyx> now there's just the other 11 channels to worry about
#728 [02:34] <Kealper> i stopped #minecraft because my IQ couldn't take any more hits like that
#729 [02:34] <fogWork> #minecraft is a disease
#730 [02:34] <fogWork> It lowers your IQ and infects your DNA with DERP
#731 [02:34] <Kealper> indeed
#732 [02:34] <Zircon_X> Much like cigarettes
#733 [02:34] <netherian> no kidding
#734 [02:34] <Zircon_X> I heard it was bad for me, so I joined #minecraft
#735 [02:34] <feenyx> lol
#736 [02:34] <Kealper> lol
#737 [02:34] <feenyx> Get you some good eye cancer
#738 [02:34] <Zircon_X> and now I'm gone again because the topic is hacking
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#740 [02:35] <feenyx> and possibly finger cancer
#741 [02:35] <Zircon_X> time for that: zero seconds
#742 [02:35] <netherian> 1+1=3
#743 [02:35] <netherian> =o
#744 [02:35] <feenyx> lies
#745 [02:35] <Zircon_X> "It stops you from hacking" first line
#746 [02:35] <feenyx> 1+1=yellow
#747 [02:35] <netherian> no!
#748 [02:35] <Zircon_X> Eeeeeh
#749 [02:35] <Kealper> ONLY IF YOU'RE DEAD
#750 [02:35] <fogWork> 1+1=1
#751 [02:35] <netherian> in soviet russia, zero divides by you
#752 [02:35] <feenyx> 10+10=100
#753 [02:35] <Zircon_X> Is making a gigantic tower of glass a waste of time
#754 [02:35] <Kealper> trollmath is infallible
#755 [02:35] <Zircon_X> because that's what I'm slowly doing
#756 [02:36] <feenyx> Zircon_X: making a gigantic tower is never a waste of time
#757 [02:36] <Zircon_X> Sweeeet
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#759 [02:36] <Zircon_X> Is there a way to share the world's I've got?
#760 [02:36] <feenyx> just make sure you take pics
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#762 [02:36] <Zircon_X> I'm going to build one into the skkkkyyyy
#763 [02:36] <Kealper> lol
#764 [02:36] <feenyx> Zircon_X: yeah, you can zip and upload the whole map folder
#765 [02:36] <Zircon_X> I hollowed out a thirty x thirty base for it
#766 [02:36] <feenyx> that's decent
#767 [02:36] <Zircon_X> only problem: Finding enough coal to make that much glass
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#769 [02:36] <netherian> EVENING TIME TO GET AWAY
#770 [02:36] <feenyx> I usually go with odd numbers for towers though
#771 [02:36] <netherian> EVENING TIME TO GET AWAY
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#773 [02:36] <feenyx> well, if they're round
#774 [02:36] <Zircon_X> Why's that feenyx?
#775 [02:37] <fogWork> Well that was easier than I anticipated, global banlist for classic seems to work ;P
#776 [02:37] <netherian> EVENING TIME TO GET AWAY
#777 [02:37] <netherian> [/songclip]
#778 [02:37] <feenyx> Zircon_X: probably just personal preference, but it just seems easier to even out the curves that way
#779 [02:37] <Kealper> ok like...i'm just going to stop watching this channel for a while, i'd really like to rewrite that extraction function lol
#780 [02:37] <Zircon_X> So is there a way to make water go higher? I kind of want to put a giant pool of water at the top
#781 [02:37] <fogWork> Kealper: http://www.thedailywtf.com/
#782 [02:37] <fogWork> You're welcome
#783 [02:37] <feenyx> Kealper: got get some coffee, and have at it
#784 [02:37] <Kealper> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
#785 [02:37] <DukeKottyn> hey, I'm trying to get a beta server up, any tips? Already forwarded ports but still having trouble...
#786 [02:38] * fogWork lol'd
#786 [02:38] <Zircon_X> DukeKottyn: Having trouble getting people to join?
#787 [02:38] <tpopcaz> anyone see the eclipse tonight?
#788 [02:38] <Zircon_X> 'Cause when I try to join my friend's server I get an internal error
#789 [02:38] <Zircon_X> something about an EOF
#790 [02:38] <DukeKottyn> yeah, connections are being refused
#791 [02:38] <fogWork> I swear, that site sidetracks the shit out of you
#792 [02:38] <Zircon_X> tpopcaz: I was watching it earlier, but it clouded over :'[
#793 [02:38] <DukeKottyn> i can connect through local IP but no one can get in on my external IP
#794 [02:38] <tpopcaz> i just went see its pretty cool
#795 [02:40] <Zircon_X> hmmm
#796 [02:40] <Zircon_X> do NPCs ever run into walls?
#797 [02:40] <fogWork> All the time
#798 [02:40] <Zircon_X> I'm considering putting a maze of cacti around the entrance to the tower
#799 [02:40] <feenyx> DukeKottyn: still seems like a forwarding issue
#800 [02:40] <fogWork> They even think that lava is water
#801 [02:40] <Zircon_X> MONSTERS STAY OUT
#802 [02:40] <DukeKottyn> I notice in the beta server, there's a server-ip variable, does that need to be set now?
#803 [02:40] <fogWork> DukeKottyn: no
#804 [02:40] <fogWork> Leave it empty
#805 [02:40] <DukeKottyn> k
#806 [02:40] <Zircon_X> You know, I love minecraft's graphical style
#807 [02:41] <feenyx> DukeKottyn: if you check it using http://vaevictus.net/minecraft/ ?
#808 [02:41] <Zircon_X> Okay one more dumb question, is there a way to influence the weather when making a new world?
#809 [02:41] <Zircon_X> I like the snowy ones
#810 [02:41] <fogWork> Nah
#811 [02:41] <feenyx> Zircon_X: nope, just keep spawning new ones, or run until you get what you want
#812 [02:41] <feenyx> they're randomly generated biomes
#813 [02:42] <Zircon_X> Oh, are the worlds infinite?
#814 [02:42] <feenyx> technicall no, but they're far larger than you'll explore in your lifetime
#815 [02:42] <fogWork> They are infinite, till you run out of diskspace :P
#816 [02:42] <fogWork> God intervenes in mysterious ways
#817 [02:43] <feenyx> we did some pseudo math on the subject, and I think we concluded you would need to sit at your computer holding Forward, for about 20 straight years, no sleep or food, to go from one end to another
#818 [02:44] <feenyx> or maybe it was closer to 30 years
#819 [02:44] <fogWork> Either way it's a waste of time, much like anything else :P
#820 [02:44] <feenyx> yeah
#821 [02:44] <feenyx> technically it's not infinite, but it might as well be
#822 [02:44] <DukeKottyn> Feenyx: thanks, just tried it, it checks out fine on there.Roommate still can't connect though.
#823 [02:45] <feenyx> DukeKottyn: is your roommate using the internal IP address to connect (192.168.x.x probably) or the external one (what you'd get from whatsmyip.com)
#824 [02:45] <DukeKottyn> feenyx: he's using the external
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#826 [02:45] <feenyx> well
#827 [02:46] <feenyx> if he's your roommate, and in the same physical network as you, just use the internal one
#828 [02:46] <netherian> back
#829 [02:46] <DukeKottyn> we've tried both, neither seems to work though
#830 [02:46] <DukeKottyn> external just refuses connections, internal times out
#831 [02:46] <Zircon_X> What should I do? Should I drink more? Should I accept my role as an alcoholic? Should I tell you I've gotten drunk before? What should I do?
#832 [02:47] <fogWork> Accept your faith and open another
#833 [02:47] <Zircon_X> Hell yeah
#834 [02:47] <Zircon_X> Vodka + Minecraft = ???
#835 [02:47] <feenyx> DukeKottyn: have you had anyone else test it?
#836 [02:48] <feenyx> Zircon_X: = PROFIT
#837 [02:48] <DukeKottyn> feenyx: no, not yet, everyone else is asleep around here
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#839 [02:48] <feenyx> DukeKottyn: whisp me the IP, I'll try using the browser client.
#840 [02:49] <Kealper> ok, i think i've got the rewrite done...time to test it and see how bad this memleaks
#841 [02:49] <fogWork> ;)
#842 [02:49] <feenyx> Kealper: I'll get the duct tape
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#848 [02:49] <Kealper> it could be pretty bad, i'm just going for broke and going to give it it's test run on an archive with like 7k folders and like 11k files in it
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#850 [02:50] <Kealper> aka my archived smp map lol
#851 [02:50] <fogWork> Are you using just store when archiving?
#852 [02:50] <Kealper> yea it's just storing, and the whole file is my own proprietary type
#853 [02:51] <fogWork> Ah
#854 [02:51] <DukeKottyn> feenyx: well thanks, for checking, guess it's my roommate's problem
#855 [02:51] <feenyx> DukeKottyn: so that's interesting! I'd have your friend try to re-download the game
#856 [02:51] <DukeKottyn> haha
#857 [02:51] <feenyx> ye
#858 [02:51] <DukeKottyn> yeah, will do
#859 [02:51] <DukeKottyn> thanks though
#860 [02:51] <DukeKottyn> i'm gonna go have a smoke, night all, thanks feenyx
#861 [02:51] <feenyx> don't mention it
#862 [02:52] <feenyx> I'm bored at work anyway
#863 [02:52] <fogWork> Kealper: I applied the format used in Quake... pak files :P
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#865 [02:52] <Kealper> xD
#866 [02:52] <fogWork> Pretty much just zip files, but then again, rather speedy
#867 [02:52] <NishaKitty> hi guys read the forums lots is there any solution to the fps issue?
#868 [02:53] <NishaKitty> guessing just wait but asking anyway >.>
#869 [02:53] * netherian killes myself again
#869 [02:53] <Kealper> with this format, i basically made it just a straight "store everything as fast as possible with the least fat"...it doesn't even have a file table in it lol
#870 [02:53] <NishaKitty> ^^;
#871 [02:53] <fogWork> ;O
#872 [02:53] * NishaKitty hopes she didn't cause that...
#872 [02:53] <fogWork> Well, doesn't need any either I suppose
#873 [02:53] <Kealper> so it just kinda stores until there is nothing left to store in said file/folder, and extracts until it errors out lol
#874 [02:53] <feenyx> Kealper: what's the intended use for this?
#875 [02:54] <Kealper> well, i'd like to use it to store backups for my smp server
#876 [02:54] <Kealper> but as it is right now, it extracts data much too slow
#877 [02:55] <fogWork> Make it multithreaded and have it sound and behave like restoring a tape backup while it's unpacking ;)
#878 [02:55] <Kealper> XD
#879 [02:55] <feenyx> I have the week between xmas and newyears off this year, will finally have time to set up a dedicated smp server instead of running it on my desktop
#880 [02:55] * fogWork hates tape backups with a burning passion
#880 [02:55] * NishaKitty wishes minecraft was multi threaded xD
#880 [02:55] <NishaKitty> then it wouldn't be using only 12% of my cpu >.>
#881 [02:55] * NishaKitty has 4 cores with hyperthreading
#881 [02:56] <Kealper> fogWork: i've never actually seen one of those enterprise tape backups work, are they any faster than like 3.5 floppies? lol
#882 [02:56] <feenyx> fogWork: I've replaced about 8 tape backup systems with either swappable hdds or online backup solutions this year alone :p
#883 [02:56] <feenyx> that's how outdated some of my customers' hardware is
#884 [02:56] <fogWork> I feel for you, feenyx
#885 [02:56] <fogWork> Kealper: it's hell on earth
#886 [02:56] <NishaKitty> feenyx, eww that's old ;p
#887 [02:56] <Kealper> XD
#888 [02:56] <Mikau> How are you starting the server, NichaKitty?
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#890 [02:56] <feenyx> NishaKitty: Dell, HP and Lenovo still make a decent buck off Tape Backup systems =/
#891 [02:56] <Kealper> i can't imagine having to sit through like 120 gigs at 3.5" floppy speed
#892 [02:56] <fogWork> I'm hoping to get my SMP server up after newyears, the server is pretty nifty
#893 [02:57] <NishaKitty> feenyx, wows ;p
#894 [02:57] <fogWork> Kealper: 400gb :P
#895 [02:57] <NishaKitty> Mikau, was that for me ;p ?
#896 [02:57] <Kealper> oh god, that's even worse
#897 [02:57] <Mikau> Yes.
#898 [02:57] <NishaKitty> it was in single player
#899 [02:57] <NishaKitty> no smp
#900 [02:57] <NishaKitty> not smp*
#901 [02:57] <Mikau> Ah, nevermind.
#902 [02:57] <NishaKitty> I have like
#903 [02:57] <NishaKitty> 64 chunk updates
#904 [02:57] <NishaKitty> all the time
#905 [02:57] <NishaKitty> it never stops
#906 [02:58] <fogWork> It's especially funny when a client accidently removes files that aren't supposed to be touched unless really really.. wait, never touched
#907 [02:58] <fogWork> Strangulation by CAT6
#908 [02:59] <feenyx> Kealper: what are you writing your app for btw? unix-compliant, osx or windows?
#909 [02:59] <Kealper> windows
#910 [02:59] <Kealper> i would imagine it would run under wine fine though, i'm not calling anything special
#911 [02:59] <feenyx> that's alright, I'm running windows anyway, and will on the server I'm setting up too
#912 [03:00] <feenyx> if you make any headway with the program, I'd gladly test it
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#914 [03:00] <Kealper> i'm not going to say the language it's in though, no one would believe that it is almost as fast at storing as winrar....lol
#915 [03:00] <fogWork> Visual Basic!
#916 [03:00] <Kealper> close
#917 [03:00] <fogWork> RealBasic!
#918 [03:00] <Kealper> not basic, but it's syntax is based off basic
#919 [03:01] * fogWork ponders
#919 [03:01] <fogWork> Does it have basic in the name? ;P
#920 [03:01] <Kealper> nope
#921 [03:01] <fogWork> Aw
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#923 [03:01] <Kealper> huge hint, it started life as an automation language
#924 [03:01] <fogWork> Dear lord
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#926 [03:02] <Kealper> lol
#927 [03:02] <Kealper> it's much better than people give it credit for...in most things, i'd say it does it's job much better than stuff like python or perl
#928 [03:03] <fogWork> Depends on the coder in most cases :P
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#932 [03:04] <Kealper> to be honest i think that is the case, since i see a ton of people complaining that AutoIt is uselessly slow, and php is so much faster and blah blah...and then i look at the mess they call code and see exactly why they think it's so slow :S
#933 [03:04] <fogWork> AutoIt is pretty good when done right, just like any other language
#934 [03:05] <Kealper> i'd make this archiver in c++, but i don't know enough of that to make something like this :S
#935 [03:05] <fogWork> But youngsters today tend to know little about each language instead of focusing on one... no wonder it gets messy
#936 [03:06] <Kealper> yea, i've found that as i have stuck with autoit instead of bouncing around, that i've been able to sqeeze quite a lot out of it
#937 [03:06] <Kealper> enough to where i have not really had a use to learn more c++ :S
#938 [03:06] <fogWork> Just like I did with VB, I got tired of feeling dirty on a daily basis and moved on ;P
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#940 [03:06] <Kealper> lol
#941 [03:07] <fogWork> Squeezed the living shit out of it
#942 [03:07] <Kealper> i would like to learn something a bit more low level though...being an autoit guru is not really hireable :S
#943 [03:07] <fogWork> Fortran & COBOL... cashflow right there
#944 [03:07] <Kealper> that's like enterprize stuff lol
#945 [03:07] <fogWork> Yeah :P
#946 [03:08] <Kealper> not sure if i'd like doing huge enterprize products lol
#947 [03:08] <fogWork> While maintaning sanity? tough call :P
#948 [03:08] <Kealper> xD
#949 [03:09] <Kealper> hmm....fileread is not being kind to me right now
#950 [03:09] <fogWork> :P
#951 [03:09] * Kealper sighs
#951 [03:09] <fogWork> Increase the buffersize captain!
#952 [03:11] <Kealper> buffer size is already at 4mb lol, the way this format is set up, it's got a 32 bit header that holds the number of bytes that the data peice has...and it's not reading that header correctly
#953 [03:11] <Zircon_X> Would it help to make my memory bigger for the java machine?
#954 [03:11] <Zircon_X> Like with the -Xms switch etc.
#955 [03:11] <Kealper> Zircon_X: what's it at right now?
#956 [03:11] <Zircon_X> (Runf rom terminal)?
#957 [03:11] <Zircon_X> I didn't change it so the default?
#958 [03:11] <Kealper> default would be 1gb
#959 [03:11] <Zircon_X> Oh
#960 [03:11] <Zircon_X> I only have a gig of ram so
#961 [03:11] <Zircon_X> Yeeeah
#962 [03:12] <Kealper> oh....you might want to set that to 512M then lol
#963 [03:12] <Zircon_X> Would that help with lag?
#964 [03:12] <fogWork> Not really ;P
#965 [03:12] <Kealper> it might
#966 [03:13] <Zircon_X> I forget the switches for that
#967 [03:13] <Zircon_X> -Xms and wut
#968 [03:13] <fogWork> I'm not even sure the server I prepared can match the code of Notch
#969 [03:13] <Kealper> -Xmx512M -Xms512M
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#971 [03:13] <Kealper> fogWork: what server O.o
#972 [03:13] <Kealper> and was that a rip on Notch's code or a praise? lol
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#974 [03:13] <fogWork> A rip :P
#975 [03:14] <Kealper> ahh lol
#976 [03:14] <fogWork> The server is a double i7 with 30gb ram ;P
#977 [03:14] <Kealper> o.o
#978 [03:14] * Kealper drools
#978 [03:15] <fogWork> 5 ip's, and with ze technology provided, 100mbit per each
#979 [03:15] <Zircon_X> ...What in all hell
#980 [03:15] <Kealper> omg
#981 [03:15] <Kealper> that thing is a monster lol
#982 [03:15] <fogWork> Will it run minecraft? barely :P
#983 [03:16] <Kealper> that should be the new "will it play Crysis?" thing lol
#984 [03:16] <Kealper> 3 lines of spam incomming!
#985 [03:16] <Kealper> Found file: MCSERVER\bwg\level.dat (126 bytes)
#986 [03:16] <Kealper> Peices: 1
#987 [03:16] <Kealper> Reading peice 1 of 1 (126 bytes)
#988 [03:16] * netherian mugs fogwork
#988 [03:16] * fogWork shrieks
#988 [03:16] <netherian> ALL MINE
#989 [03:17] <fogWork> ;_;
#990 [03:17] <Kealper> so....now that i've got that settled...time to start working on making it to all 11k files lol
#991 [03:17] <fogWork> Can't you steal the classic server machine instead? ;P
#992 [03:21] <Kealper> alrighty....i've unleas...that was fast
#993 [03:21] <Kealper> i call bs..that was too fast
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#995 [03:22] <Kealper> woh
#996 [03:22] <Kealper> that was some serious code optimising
#997 [03:23] <Kealper> less than 15 sec to archive, and less than 15 sec to extract....
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#1001 [03:23] <Kealper> methinks that is actually faster than winrar set to store mode
#1002 [03:24] <Zircon_X> :D I made a boat
#1003 [03:24] <Zircon_X> can I propel the boat
#1004 [03:24] <Kealper> W
#1005 [03:24] <Kealper> hold it to get to max speed
#1006 [03:24] <Zircon_X> Oh okay wow
#1007 [03:24] <Zircon_X> herp
#1008 [03:24] <Kealper> xD
#1009 [03:24] <Zircon_X> I figured I'd need to make like a paddle
#1010 [03:24] * NishaKitty sets Zircon_X's boat on fire and runs
#1010 [03:24] <Zircon_X> D:
#1011 [03:24] <Kealper> if you break it, you get 3 planks and 2 sticks, so i assume it comes with padles lol
#1012 [03:24] <Zircon_X> I can't sw
#1013 [03:24] <NishaKitty> ._.
#1014 [03:24] <Kealper> paddle*
#1015 [03:24] <NishaKitty> I joke ._.
#1016 [03:25] <Zircon_X> lol
#1017 [03:25] <NishaKitty> will be nice not having to burn down trees anymore
#1018 [03:25] <NishaKitty> xD
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#1020 [03:25] <Zircon_X> Also I just accidentally flooded a mine
#1021 [03:25] <Zircon_X> and in comes a pig on the flood
#1022 [03:25] <Zircon_X> then suddenly the big drowns
#1023 [03:25] <Zircon_X> I love free ham
#1024 [03:25] <NishaKitty> hmm I wonder...
#1025 [03:25] * fogWork accidently floods a lot too when building under the waterlevel
#1025 [03:25] <feenyx> Kealper: is it 15 secs per file though? :p
#1026 [03:25] <Kealper> 15 sec to store/extract all 11,400 files lol
#1027 [03:26] <feenyx> excuse me while I pick my jaw back up from the floor
#1028 [03:27] <Kealper> that....actually does extract faster than winrar set to store mode....
#1029 [03:27] <Zircon_X> Okai I like to figure out my recipes myself but my current speculation is to make a lantern I need a coal, two glass, and six stone?
#1030 [03:28] <feenyx> SSS
#1031 [03:28] <feenyx> GCG
#1032 [03:28] <feenyx> SSS
#1033 [03:28] <feenyx> I have no idea
#1034 [03:28] <feenyx> haven't tried it :p
#1035 [03:28] <Zircon_X> That was my speculation
#1036 [03:28] * [Husky]Shnaw is now known as [Husky]Shnaw|Sleep
#1037 [03:28] <feenyx> but it makes sense
#1038 [03:28] * Zircon_X tests
#1038 [03:29] <Zircon_X> Fail
#1039 [03:29] <Kealper> hmm...now to just put this through it's paces as far as ram usage goes...
#1040 [03:31] <Kealper> hmm...about 1 sec to store a 20mb single file....time to test with a 700mb movie
#1041 [03:31] <Kealper> o.o
#1042 [03:31] <fogWork> ;O
#1043 [03:31] <Kealper> extracting said file took 164ms....
#1044 [03:31] <Kealper> that's got to be wrong...
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#1046 [03:32] <fogWork> Wouldn't it be better to just rename a single file in this case? :P
#1047 [03:32] <Kealper> yea..but i'm just doing it as testing lol
#1048 [03:32] <fogWork> ;)
#1049 [03:33] <Kealper> and wow, that actually did extract that fast without corrupting...i tried a rar file, it threw no crc errors
#1050 [03:33] <Mikau> Depends, fogWork
#1051 [03:33] <Mikau> If it's an exe, it's better to have it as .zip or .rar
#1052 [03:33] <Kealper> this doesn't compress or encrypt
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#1054 [03:34] <fogWork> If it does no compression, no point really :P
#1055 [03:35] <Kealper> yea, that's why i said i was just using a single file as testing lol
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#1057 [03:35] <Kealper> to make sure it actually does everything right
#1058 [03:35] <Kealper> trying a video now
#1059 [03:35] <fogWork> :)
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#1062 [03:37] <aetherian> GUYS
#1063 [03:37] <aetherian> I LOST THE GAME
#1064 [03:37] * fogWork claps
#1064 [03:37] <Kealper> ram usage for large files....BAD
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#1066 [03:39] <Kealper> i might have to re-re-write the archiving function lol...this is horrid
#1067 [03:39] <fogWork> As long as it works fine for the intended purpose, go with that :P
#1068 [03:39] <Kealper> yea, it seems to be fine for lots of small files
#1069 [03:40] <Kealper> but still, this is mostly just something to see if i can do it, and how far i can take it
#1070 [03:40] <fogWork> Dangerous stuff :P
#1071 [03:41] <Kealper> 241 seconds to store a 700mb movie.....time to extract
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#1073 [03:41] <Kealper> lolwut
#1074 [03:41] <fogWork> ;O
#1075 [03:42] <Kealper> 5.5 sec to extract a 700mb movie...peak ram usage was about 10mb lol
#1076 [03:42] <fogWork> What in the... what ... I don't even ...
#1077 [03:42] <fogWork> Employee: Good night, sleep tight! *vanish*
#1078 [03:42] <Kealper> xD
#1079 [03:42] <Zenreich> So I'm still disconnecting with unloaded chunks within 10 seconds of joining a server
#1080 [03:43] <Kealper> alright so i don't think i can do much more with the extraction function lol
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#1082 [03:45] <the_late_man> gnight.
#1083 [03:45] <Zircon_X> Wait are you making an archiving program?
#1084 [03:45] <Kealper> yea
#1085 [03:46] <Zircon_X> Need a beta tester?
#1086 [03:46] <Con> aetherian/netherian/the_late_man, goodnight
#1087 [03:46] <the_late_man> whoa whoa
#1088 [03:46] <Kealper> it's still quite far away from being usable lol
#1089 [03:46] <the_late_man> you forgot BadNetMan
#1090 [03:46] <the_late_man> >:O
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#1092 [03:46] <the_late_man> and besides
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#1094 [03:46] <Zircon_X> Anyway
#1095 [03:46] <Zircon_X> what language is it writen in?
#1096 [03:46] <the_late_man> netherian is onl when I'm /under/cover
#1097 [03:46] <the_late_man> ROFL
#1098 [03:47] <the_late_man> heh
#1099 [03:47] <the_late_man> just fsed my brain
#1100 [03:47] <the_late_man> nuhg
#1101 [03:47] <Kealper> do you know much about languages?
#1102 [03:47] <Zircon_X> I've dabbled in a lot of them
#1103 [03:47] <Zircon_X> I know C more than any other ones
#1104 [03:47] <Kealper> then you might think i'm lying due to how fast it is, but it's all native autoit code lol
#1105 [03:48] <Zircon_X> Sweet jesus
#1106 [03:48] <Kealper> no calls to any outside libs or dlls, pure autoit
#1107 [03:48] <Kealper> and it can extract a 700mb file in just over 5 sec
#1108 [03:48] <fogWork> Kealper: Now you've had "dear god" and "sweet jesus" in terms of your choise :P
#1109 [03:48] <Kealper> which is right on-par if not faster than winrar set on store mode lol
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#1112 [03:48] <Kealper> lol fogWork
#1113 [03:48] <Zircon_X> What in all hell
#1114 [03:48] <Zircon_X> What do you take when you wor
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#1116 [03:48] <Zircon_X> k
#1117 [03:49] <Kealper> xD
#1118 [03:49] <Zircon_X> I've never successfully programmed anythign when I'm sober
#1119 [03:49] <Kealper> perfectly sober right now lol
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#1121 [03:50] <Kealper> well...might as well get doing the same stuff i did for the extraction function to the archiving function...and it already archived my 20mb (11k files) smp map in about 14 sec....
#1122 [03:51] <fogWork> Coding while drunk is an actual art performed by few, and it's done good
#1123 [03:51] <fogWork> Looking at the changes when sober surprises oneself
#1124 [03:51] <Kealper> i've found similar happenings when i'm insanely tired
#1125 [03:51] <fogWork> The effect is basically the same :P
#1126 [03:51] <Kealper> and then i look at the code and it's pure genious, and can hardly read it myself lol
#1127 [03:51] <fogWork> It's weird, but real :P
#1128 [03:52] <Acaceol> What changed in Beta 1.0.2
#1129 [03:52] <Kealper> actually, the ideas that i'm putting in here to make it so fast comes from about 7am (stayed up the whole night) last night
#1130 [03:52] <Kealper> well, yesterday i guess i'd say
#1131 [03:52] <Zircon_X> For some reason when I code while sober it comes out looking retarded
#1132 [03:52] <Zircon_X> Though once I tried coding while tripping on certain things
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#1134 [03:52] <Kealper> lol
#1135 [03:52] <Zircon_X> and I came back the next day with my cursor on the line
#1136 [03:52] <Zircon_X> X = X+1 ; THE UNIVERSE IS HERE
#1137 [03:53] <Kealper> LOL
#1138 [03:53] <Kealper> i += 1 ; TO INFINITY, AND BEYOND!
#1139 [03:53] <Kealper> amidoinit rite?
#1140 [03:53] <fogWork> Ze brain, is mysterious
#1141 [03:54] <Zircon_X> I would give anything to remember what I was thinking when I typed thatm
#1142 [03:54] <Kealper> lol
#1143 [03:54] <Zircon_X> As I'm sure it was insanely entertaining
#1144 [03:54] <Kealper> yea i can see any sort of depressant working for supercoding, but i doubt tripping balls works as well lol
#1145 [03:55] <Con> Kealper: Add underline
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#1147 [03:55] <fogWork> Something weird occurs when the self disconnects from ye olde brain :P
#1148 [03:56] <Zircon_X> I remember the point I was working on some assembly while tripping on dxm
#1149 [03:56] <Zircon_X> and became quite sure I was flying a spaceship
#1150 [03:56] <Kealper> i guess ye olde brayne is not bogged down by said self while on some sort of natural or otherwise depressant lol
#1151 [03:56] * fogWork noddles
#1151 [03:56] <Zircon_X> Huh
#1152 [03:57] <Zircon_X> Should I dirnk until I pass out
#1153 [03:57] <Zircon_X> I think so
#1154 [03:57] <fogWork> I don't pass out from drinking too much, it's insane and freaky shit at the same time
#1155 [03:57] <Kealper> lol
#1156 [03:57] <fogWork> Everything is blank and myself goes into autopilot mode
#1157 [03:57] <Kealper> that could be dangerous lol
#1158 [03:57] <fogWork> It is ;/
#1159 [03:57] <Zircon_X> Ambien walrus
#1160 [03:58] <Zircon_X> "CALL ALL OF YOUR EX GIRLFRIENDS LOL"
#1161 [03:58] <Zircon_X> "Not now Ambien walrus, I'm busy losing my car keys."
#1162 [03:58] <fogWork> lol
#1163 [03:59] <fogWork> A friend of mine filmed me while I was in autopilot mode, blank stare but other than that, acting like normal + drunk
#1164 [03:59] <Kealper> lol
#1165 [04:00] <fogWork> Was freaky ;(
#1166 [04:00] <Zircon_X> : [
#1167 [04:00] <Zircon_X> Once I wasn't in a sound state of mind
#1168 [04:00] <Zircon_X> a friend of mine comes to visit and I'm in the kitchen with the soldering iron with a pillow in the stove (stove's off, thank goodness), and I inform him that I'm the president.
#1169 [04:01] <Zircon_X> Apparently I didn't tell him what I was the president of.
#1170 [04:01] * fogWork lol'd
#1170 [04:02] <fogWork> Guess how I got my current gf? :P
#1171 [04:02] <Zircon_X> How's that
#1172 [04:02] <fogWork> Autopilot + drag girl home from pub
#1173 [04:02] <Zircon_X> Hell yeah
#1174 [04:02] <Zircon_X> That's how I end up getting mine
#1175 [04:03] <fogWork> Imagine my surprise when I woke up next to a hottie
#1176 [04:03] <Zircon_X> Fucked up -> Meet -> Get number
#1177 [04:03] <Zircon_X> Oh nice
#1178 [04:03] <fogWork> Nice ;D
#1179 [04:03] <Kealper> xD
#1180 [04:03] <Zircon_X> I never wake up to them I just am like "Hi why is your number in my pocket"
#1181 [04:03] <fogWork> ;O
#1182 [04:03] <Zircon_X> Apparently i'm ballsy
#1183 [04:04] <Zircon_X> Just not sober
#1184 [04:04] <Zircon_X> :|
#1185 [04:04] <fogWork> Sober and disgruntled? :P
#1186 [04:04] * feenyx rages at Zebra for making shit software for their label printers
#1186 [04:05] <Kealper> mmm binary Binary(BinaryLen(Binary($ArkVersion)))
#1187 [04:05] * fogWork would like to rage at several companies for making shit software for their scanners, printers, misc devices
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#1188 [04:05] <feenyx> it's basically looping me
#1189 [04:06] <feenyx> I try to start the label designer program, it asks me to add a printer, so I add the printer (manually because the auto-detect fails), and it restarts the program, and asks me to install the printer again
#1190 [04:06] <fogWork> I had that with the canon scanners here >_>
#1191 [04:06] <feenyx> even though it's listed both as a windows printer, and in the proprietary driver wrapper
#1192 [04:09] * fogWork practices patience
#1192 [04:10] * Kealper finishes rerewrite of archive function
#1192 [04:11] <Kealper> this'll probably crash and burn, so i'll start small
#1193 [04:12] <fogWork> Oooh, Template Monster has drupal templates
#1194 [04:12] * fogWork looks
#1194 [04:13] <kontroll> 1.0.2 and it still dies. :'<
#1195 [04:15] <Kealper> 8.8 sec to store that same 700mb movie that took it over 240 sec to store before rewriting
#1196 [04:15] <fogWork> ;O
#1197 [04:16] * Acaceol suggests that updates be optional instead of mandatory from now on
#1197 [04:16] <Kealper> now to test it on an mc map
#1198 [04:16] <Kealper> indeed Acaceol
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#1201 [04:16] <Zircon_X> me seconds Acaceol
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#1203 [04:16] <Zircon_X> Wow
#1204 [04:16] <Zircon_X> has anyone here ever been so wasted
#1205 [04:16] <Con> Apparently, they ARE optional
#1206 [04:16] <Zircon_X> they considered not drinking anymore because it'd just be a waste ofa lcohol
#1207 [04:17] <Zircon_X> and so like not
#1208 [04:17] <fogWork> It's cheaper than other drugs ;P
#1209 [04:17] <Kealper> lol
#1210 [04:17] <kontroll> What does SMP mean?
#1211 [04:17] <Zircon_X> Super mario party
#1212 [04:18] <kontroll> Cool.
#1213 [04:18] <Zircon_X> Just kidding I don't really know
#1214 [04:18] <fogWork> Survival Multi Player? :P
#1215 [04:18] <kontroll> Oh. That makes sense.
#1216 [04:18] <Zircon_X> It occurs to me that I"ve not worked on my giant glass tower in like two hours
#1217 [04:18] <Zircon_X> iinstead I've been digging a two brick wide stair case into the earth
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#1219 [04:18] <Zircon_X> I have no idea how long I've been doing this
#1220 [04:19] <fogWork> ;P
#1221 [04:19] <Zircon_X> AND IT ALL PAYS OFF
#1222 [04:19] <Zircon_X> because Zircon_X finds his first ever vein of gold
#1223 [04:20] <Zircon_X> DO I need an iron pickaxe to harvest this?
#1224 [04:21] <fogWork> Most likely ;)
#1225 [04:21] <Zircon_X> Yes, yes ytou do
#1226 [04:21] <Zircon_X> because I broke one of the blocks using a stone pickax ;_;
#1227 [04:21] <Kealper> always carry a ton of sticks and one iron pickaxe on you, so you can mine with stone pickaxes forever and use the iron one if you come across rare mats
#1228 [04:22] * Zircon_X takes notes
#1228 [04:22] <Kealper> or even better, carry straight uncut logs, since you can make tons of sticks from those
#1229 [04:22] <Kealper> and you get the stone from mining with stone....so...inifipicks lol
#1230 [04:22] <Zircon_X> Is there any point to keeping iron ore as it is?
#1231 [04:23] <Kealper> no, smelt it as soon as you get back to port-of-call
#1232 [04:23] <kontroll> Started a new world on the server (on a different computer) to try. LOTS of iron, coal, sand and clay around the starting pos. :P
#1233 [04:23] <Kealper> lol
#1234 [04:23] <Zircon_X> Also, any reason to keep gravel?
#1235 [04:24] <kontroll> /nod
#1236 [04:24] <kontroll> You need to feed your lava pit.
#1237 [04:24] <kontroll> Gravel makes it happy.
#1238 [04:24] <Kealper> lol
#1239 [04:24] <Zircon_X> Does it block the lava or?
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#1241 [04:24] <kontroll> :P
#1242 [04:25] <kontroll> I meant dumping it in your incinerator. Assuming you have one.
#1243 [04:25] <kontroll> I thought everyone did.
#1244 [04:25] <Zircon_X> incinerator?
#1245 [04:25] <Zircon_X> I am konfoos
#1246 [04:25] <Zircon_X> Oh wai-
#1247 [04:25] <kontroll> A lava tile in which you dump useless stuff.
#1248 [04:25] <kontroll> Anyway.
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#1250 [04:27] <DFC> hmmm
#1251 [04:28] <DFC> is there any way to collect saplings automatically?
#1252 [04:29] <TheBix> guys
#1253 [04:29] <TheBix> how do I join servers with long domain names
#1254 [04:29] <TheBix> like thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatthelongestdomainnameatlonglast.com
#1255 [04:29] <Zircon_X> What's redstone?
#1256 [04:29] <Kealper> copy/paste?
#1257 [04:29] <Kealper> Zircon_X: simple wires
#1258 [04:30] <TheBix> Kealper: no
#1259 [04:30] <Kealper> lets you rig up electric stuff
#1260 [04:30] <DFC> its seems like the saplings fall too fast
#1261 [04:30] <DFC> dont
#1262 [04:30] <DFC> and its all over the place
#1263 [04:30] <TheBix> the problem is it doesn't let you put in more letters than its width
#1264 [04:30] <TheBix> and redstone is nothing like electricity
#1265 [04:30] <Kealper> no clue then, i guess you don't :S
#1266 [04:30] <Zircon_X> oh alright...so that's what the buttons you get from stone are?
#1267 [04:30] <Zircon_X> *are for?
#1268 [04:30] <TheBix> its more for making shit logic "circuits"
#1269 [04:30] <Kealper> get it's IP and use that
#1270 [04:31] <TheBix> Kealper: yeah but just saying notch should add support since it isn't even that long
#1271 [04:31] <Zircon_X> Isn't most electronics just logic circuits
#1272 [04:31] <Kealper> yea, it should scroll over, i aggree, but for now i guess you just resolve to an ip and use that :S
#1273 [04:31] <Kealper> yes Zircon_X
#1274 [04:31] <Zircon_X> Even a switch is just an "if/then" statement
#1275 [04:32] <Kealper> people have made entire CPUs (with cache memory) using just redstone stuff in mc
#1276 [04:33] <Zircon_X> Either this world has a shitton of resources in it, or I have some weird sixth sense
#1277 [04:33] <Kealper> xD
#1278 [04:33] <Zircon_X> because I just turn my tunnel at random and am finding the coolest shit
#1279 [04:33] <DFC> so did they in dwarffort Kealper
#1280 [04:33] <fogWork> "Your payment of $140.00 is complete."
#1281 [04:33] <Zircon_X> And Gmod
#1282 [04:33] * fogWork cries
#1282 [04:34] <Kealper> what'd ya buy?
#1283 [04:34] <fogWork> Xenforo license
#1284 [04:34] <Kealper> O.o
#1285 [04:35] <fogWork> Nice, 4.9Mb zip
#1286 [04:35] <Kealper> $140 for a 5mb file? gg
#1287 [04:35] <fogWork> Thank you :P
#1288 [04:36] <fogWork> http://xenforo.com/
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#1290 [04:36] <Kealper> interesting
#1291 [04:36] <Kealper> forum backend? sounds a bit steep for that :S
#1292 [04:37] <fogWork> Check out the community there
#1293 [04:38] <fogWork> Going to install it in a little bit
#1294 [04:38] <Zircon_X> kealper: Because of that trivia I'm going to try to recreate a Z-80 microcontroller :p
#1295 [04:38] <Kealper> lol
#1296 [04:38] <Zircon_X> I have no idea if I'll succeed
#1297 [04:38] <Zircon_X> but if everything I did was based on if I knew what the hell I was doing
#1298 [04:38] <Zircon_X> Nothing would get done
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#1301 [04:39] <Kealper> "Fuck it, we'll do it live!" lol
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#1303 [04:40] <Kealper> hmm....although that speed that i get out of storing files is nice....it's not storing the archive format version header correctly...
#1304 [04:40] <Kealper> so the data is all there, but not readable :S
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#1306 [04:42] <fogWork> Kealper: the install is progressing nicely
#1307 [04:42] <Kealper> oh my fucking derp i am retarded
#1308 [04:43] <Kealper> the install of that Xenfero thing?
#1309 [04:43] <fogWork> Yeah
#1310 [04:43] <Kealper> werd...lol
#1311 [04:43] <Zircon_X> Wow, I'm 57 levels down
#1312 [04:43] <Kealper> alright so...i was creating a blank destination file when the function was being called..
#1313 [04:44] <Kealper> 3 lines below that is a check to see if the file exists, if it doesn't, put the archive format version in it
#1314 [04:44] <Kealper> so it was never getting the version header because it was always created just before it checked
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#1317 [04:55] <Zircon_X> What's this rock I just found
#1318 [04:55] <Zircon_X> it's like, gray, with black and white shot through it
#1319 [04:56] <Zircon_X> my pickaxe can't seem to get through it
#1320 [04:56] <Kealper> Zircon_X: is it next to lava?
#1321 [04:56] <Zircon_X> I haven't found any lava, no
#1322 [04:56] <DFC> FFFFFFFFFFFFF
#1323 [04:56] <Kealper> bedrock
#1324 [04:56] <DFC> suddenly exploding dick outta nowhere
#1325 [04:56] <Kealper> bottom of the map
#1326 [04:56] <Kealper> lol DFC
#1327 [04:56] <Zircon_X> Awwwwh :[
#1328 [04:57] <Zircon_X> So no way to dig it?
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#1331 [05:00] <Kealper> finally
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#1333 [05:00] * Kealper tests this now before going to bed
#1333 [05:01] <fogWork> Okay, this took some time getting used to
#1334 [05:01] <fogWork> But it's smooth as hell
#1335 [05:01] <Kealper> orly?
#1336 [05:02] <fogWork> Yus
#1337 [05:02] <Kealper> 13 seconds....looks like i have reached the limit of what autoit can do for speed in archiving
#1338 [05:03] <Kealper> fogWork: do you have a running copy i can look at? i wanna see what it looks like lol
#1339 [05:03] <fogWork> Yessir
#1340 [05:03] <fogWork> Do try to register, want to see if it works ;)
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#1342 [05:03] <Kealper> O.o this looks pretty nice
#1343 [05:04] <Kealper> o.o that was cool
#1344 [05:04] <fogWork> It does, doesn't it? :)
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#1346 [05:06] <Kealper> there is so much ajax in this it makes me giddy lol
#1347 [05:06] <Zircon_X> Huh, I have 1122 squares of stone
#1348 [05:07] <Zircon_X> I think that means I can start construction on my tower
#1349 [05:07] <Kealper> i can see now why this was $140 lol
#1350 [05:07] <Kealper> it just beats the pants off phpbb
#1351 [05:07] <fogWork> It's insanely smooth and easy to work with
#1352 [05:08] <fogWork> I'm getting another license once it can import IPB databases
#1353 [05:08] <Kealper> O.o
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#1355 [05:09] <Zircon_X> WHat size would a tower be if I wanted to have a tower that one would walk up to and say, "That is a gigantic tower."?
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#1357 [05:09] * fogWork makes a quick post
#1357 [05:09] <Kealper> 64 blocks tall would do it
#1358 [05:09] <Zircon_X> Okay and what about base size
#1359 [05:09] <Zircon_X> like x by y
#1360 [05:09] <Kealper> yea, i made a test post, you can delete that lol
#1361 [05:09] <Kealper> Zircon_X: that's up to you lol
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#1363 [05:10] <DFC> base size?
#1364 [05:10] <DFC> 1
#1365 [05:10] <Zircon_X> Oh I figure but what's an impressive number
#1366 [05:10] <fogWork> Aha, I see your post ;)
#1367 [05:10] <Zircon_X> I WANT A HUGE TOWER
#1368 [05:10] <Zircon_X> You know what
#1369 [05:10] <Zircon_X> I'm going to make my huge tower
#1370 [05:10] <DFC> you only need to support it with 1 block
#1371 [05:10] <DFC> lol
#1372 [05:10] <fogWork> The popups with contents is a nice thing too
#1373 [05:10] <Kealper> yea
#1374 [05:11] <fogWork> Haha, standard smileys are fugly though
#1375 [05:11] <Kealper> yea, i noticed that aswell lol
#1376 [05:12] <fogWork> The community has a *lot* of extras, addons, themes and what not
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#1378 [05:12] <fogWork> Very interesting
#1379 [05:12] <Spider08044> anyone alive
#1380 [05:12] <Kealper> no
#1381 [05:12] <Kealper> i mean
#1382 [05:12] <Spider08044> does anyone know howto make a blueprint off an image to build in minecraft
#1383 [05:12] <Kealper> braaaiiins
#1384 [05:12] <Kealper> Spider08044: lots of screenshots?
#1385 [05:12] <DFC> like a flat surface?
#1386 [05:12] <Spider08044> no like a 3d model
#1387 [05:13] <Spider08044> i know the guy that did the starship entrerprise did it
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#1389 [05:13] <Spider08044> but no idea how
#1390 [05:13] <DFC> most probably had the 3d models
#1391 [05:13] <DFC> then converted them somehow
#1392 [05:13] <Spider08044> yea but how he converted them is a mystery to me
#1393 [05:13] <Spider08044> i wanted to make the uss iowa
#1394 [05:14] <Spider08044> are links allowed here
#1395 [05:14] <Kealper> indeed
#1396 [05:14] <Spider08044> http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b95/spider0804/boat.png
#1397 [05:14] <Spider08044> click dat
#1398 [05:14] <Spider08044> that was just some random ship i made
#1399 [05:14] <Spider08044> but i wouldnt mind a uss iowa near it either
#1400 [05:15] <Kealper> lol
#1401 [05:15] <DFC> screw this
#1402 [05:15] <DFC> iamma build an aircraft carrier
#1403 [05:15] <Spider08044> the thing is when making a boat at random its no scale to be followed
#1404 [05:15] <Spider08044> i also want a rebel space station
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#1406 [05:16] <feenyx> Spider08044: nice going
#1407 [05:16] <DFC> whats with the strange sound
#1408 [05:16] <Spider08044> http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b95/spider0804/ytee.png
#1409 [05:16] <Spider08044> thats a tree
#1410 [05:16] <Kealper> o.o
#1411 [05:17] <DFC> hmm
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#1413 [05:17] <DFC> suspended tree stumps?
#1414 [05:17] <Spider08044> ?
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#1417 [05:17] <Zircon_X> IS there a way to channel water upward?
#1418 [05:17] <DFC> get a pail
#1419 [05:17] <Zircon_X> like if I wanted a pool at the top of a tower.
#1420 [05:17] <Kealper> no
#1421 [05:18] <Zircon_X> Awwwh : [
#1422 [05:18] <Kealper> make buckets lol
#1423 [05:18] <Spider08044> yes
#1424 [05:18] <Zircon_X> Oh buckets
#1425 [05:18] <Zircon_X> Good idea
#1426 [05:18] <Spider08044> zirc
#1427 [05:18] <DFC> its only like3
#1428 [05:18] <Spider08044> what are you asking for
#1429 [05:18] <DFC> iron
#1430 [05:18] <Spider08044> a path of water leading upwards?
#1431 [05:18] <Zircon_X> Well I just wanted to transport water but apparently I can
#1432 [05:18] <Spider08044> ..
#1433 [05:18] <Zircon_X> No, I was thinking I'd have to direct it that way
#1434 [05:18] <DFC> somehow i regret building a non-looping water elevator
#1435 [05:18] <Zircon_X> Shhhh I just got this yesterday
#1436 [05:19] <DFC> i got this yesterday too :3
#1437 [05:19] <DFC> i have 2 tree farms and a working water elevator
#1438 [05:19] <Spider08044> what we did was we built a column of water with a opening at the top of 5 by 5 pool
#1439 [05:19] <Spider08044> with a 3 by 3 hole
#1440 [05:19] <Spider08044> and at the bottem a hole in the side of 4 by 5
#1441 [05:19] <DFC> ah
#1442 [05:19] <Spider08044> you drive the boat into the bottem hole come out the top
#1443 [05:19] <Spider08044> boyancy
#1444 [05:19] <DFC> 4by 5
#1445 [05:20] <DFC> that explains why i have been smacking my head into the wall
#1446 [05:20] <Spider08044> thats why theres a water channel in the tre epic
#1447 [05:20] <Spider08044> it was our mode of transportation before minecarts worked
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#1449 [05:20] <Spider08044> and its leaking because we fired that cannon
#1450 [05:20] <Spider08044> NEVER AGAIN
#1451 [05:20] <DFC> lol
#1452 [05:20] <lucisac> my beta is broken
#1453 [05:20] <Kealper> XD
#1454 [05:20] <DFC> it seems like a good idea at that time
#1455 [05:21] <Kealper> lucisac: many peoples' are
#1456 [05:21] <Spider08044> everyones beta is broken
#1457 [05:21] <Spider08044> the "chunks will now save far less often"
#1458 [05:21] <DFC> hmm i wonder if its possible to make a cluster cannon
#1459 [05:21] <Spider08044> broke it big time
#1460 [05:21] <lucisac> yeh, it's painful
#1461 [05:21] <Spider08044> cluster?
#1462 [05:21] <Spider08044> like what
#1463 [05:21] <DFC> multiple projectiles
#1464 [05:21] <Spider08044> im self proclaimed master of everything but i never come on here
#1465 [05:21] <Spider08044> and yes
#1466 [05:21] <Spider08044> very easy
#1467 [05:21] <Spider08044> do you use electricity?
#1468 [05:22] <DFC> i have alot of redstone
#1469 [05:22] <DFC> what i dont have is sulphur
#1470 [05:22] <DFC> gotta build me one of those fancy monster farms
#1471 [05:22] <Spider08044> are you a single player..player
#1472 [05:22] <DFC> yep
#1473 [05:22] <Spider08044> oh fuk that
#1474 [05:22] <Spider08044> how would i build my boats if for not spawning resources to my hand
#1475 [05:22] <Spider08044> take years instead of days
#1476 [05:22] <DFC> yeah
#1477 [05:23] <lucisac> what time is notch time btw...eg: what country does he reside?
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#1479 [05:23] <Spider08044> holdon i have cannon photos somewhere
#1480 [05:24] <Zircon_X> I just got killed by an exploding dick
#1481 [05:24] <Spider08044> never mind i dont i just have a photo of how far i shot 7 projectiles
#1482 [05:24] <Zircon_X> : [
#1483 [05:24] <DFC> your first time eh?
#1484 [05:24] <Zircon_X> I was in my boat
#1485 [05:24] <Spider08044> http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b95/spider0804/1shot.png
#1486 [05:24] <Zircon_X> riding down a little channel I dug out
#1487 [05:24] <Zircon_X> Wheee
#1488 [05:24] <Zircon_X> then I hear a hiss
#1489 [05:24] <Spider08044> that is the distance my cannon fires
#1490 [05:24] <Zircon_X> and there's this green thing
#1491 [05:24] <Spider08044> reloads in about 15 seconds
#1492 [05:24] <Zircon_X> and then there's an explosion, and then there's not a boat
#1493 [05:25] <DFC> nice
#1494 [05:25] <DFC> dry cannon i see
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#1496 [05:25] <Spider08044> http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b95/spider0804/farthest3shots.png
#1497 [05:25] <Spider08044> wet
#1498 [05:25] <Spider08044> just cant see it
#1499 [05:25] <Spider08044> 3 of the projectiles on a good fire made it all the way out there
#1500 [05:25] <Spider08044> out of max view range
#1501 [05:25] <DFC> nice
#1502 [05:26] <DFC> so its all in one shot?
#1503 [05:26] <Spider08044> yea
#1504 [05:26] <Spider08044> its a 3 stage cannon tho
#1505 [05:26] <DFC> fancy
#1506 [05:26] <Spider08044> most people dont even know what they are
#1507 [05:26] <Spider08044> theres a back charge to push the main charge all forward
#1508 [05:26] <Spider08044> to make projectiles go farther
#1509 [05:27] <Spider08044> its like water -> stage1 space stage2x4 space main projectile
#1510 [05:28] <Spider08044> the biggest one i ever made shot 80 projectiles to about 3/4 that distance
#1511 [05:29] <DFC> fancy
#1512 [05:30] * Kealper compiles Arkive v1.0
#1512 [05:31] <Spider08044> poop
#1513 [05:31] <Spider08044> so i cant play minecraft and ive nothing to do
#1514 [05:31] <Spider08044> no luck on finding a blueprint maker either
#1515 [05:35] <barrycarlyon> Blueprint maker?
#1516 [05:35] <barrycarlyon> Ooh cannons.
#1517 [05:35] <Spider08044> no
#1518 [05:35] <DFC> nah he means making 3d models into minecraft blueprints
#1519 [05:35] <Spider08044> i want to make a scale uss iowa
#1520 [05:35] <Spider08044> like the enterprise
#1521 [05:36] <barrycarlyon> ah
#1522 [05:37] <Spider08044> id like to drive it around
#1523 [05:37] <barrycarlyon> I assumed people had hacked a way to automate the process to the minecraft client (or write the world files), tho I hear the enterprise was hand built (1 to something scale)
#1524 [05:37] <feenyx> Kealper: rapidshare it or put it on a website somewhere? I'd like to test it when I get home
#1525 [05:37] <Spider08044> we use a mod that lets you sail and fly around
#1526 [05:37] <feenyx> or even back in the office
#1527 [05:37] <Spider08044> barry he had a blueprint
#1528 [05:37] <barrycarlyon> I'd love to see cars/trucks im minecraft, could build roads and things (well I do build roads and things anyway)
#1529 [05:38] <DFC> >actualy electric lamps
#1530 [05:38] <DFC> made of iron
#1531 [05:38] <DFC> would be coal
#1532 [05:38] <Kealper> feenyx: adding some crude CLI stuff right now, so you can just drag the folder/file on to the exe to make it work
#1533 [05:38] <Spider08044> well barry thedfc
#1534 [05:38] <Spider08044> err
#1535 [05:38] <Spider08044> well dfc you could make a pole of 4 iron blocks
#1536 [05:38] <Spider08044> with 1 block of lightstone
#1537 [05:38] <Kealper> i'm quite curious to see how this runs on other machines, because it works great on mine lol
#1538 [05:39] <Spider08044> or 4 fenceposts
#1539 [05:39] <DFC> hmm it could
#1540 [05:39] <DFC> work
#1541 [05:39] <Spider08044> witha torch
#1542 [05:39] <DFC> but 4 iron blocks
#1543 [05:39] <DFC> now thats going to be a bitch to get
#1544 [05:39] <DFC> thats like what
#1545 [05:39] <Spider08044> you can stack fenceposts
#1546 [05:39] <DFC> an automatic drill or digger would be nice though
#1547 [05:40] <Spider08044> they exist its called cubiod and istick
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#1549 [05:41] <feenyx> Kealper: that's sweet of you. I'm quite comfy with just regular CLI though, if it's gonna give you headaches :p
#1550 [05:42] <Kealper> feenyx: i plan on doing a more proper CLI later, but for now this is easier to implement lol
#1551 [05:43] <Kealper> basically right now you just pass the item to be archived as it's only param and it will pop up a dialog to ask what archive to use, or to create a new one
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#1553 [05:45] <barrycarlyon> One of my ysers made a nice enclosure our of stacked fence posts.
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#1555 [05:48] <feenyx> stacking fence posts is fun
#1556 [05:48] <feenyx> makes for some unique landmarks
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#1558 [05:50] <barrycarlyon> agreed
#1559 [05:58] <Kealper> now this is just making me mad....it's not storing file sizes correctly when using cli params....what is this i don't even
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#1562 [06:00] <Kealper> oh....hmm..i see why it's failing....
#1563 [06:00] <feenyx> Kealper: am you disappoint?
#1564 [06:00] <Kealper> Code, I am disappoint.
#1565 [06:01] <Kealper> oh, now that i think about it, it's not a hard fix...alrighty then
#1566 [06:01] <feenyx> I wish I could code
#1567 [06:02] <feenyx> but alas, html/css/php is as far as it goes
#1568 [06:02] <Kealper> lol
#1569 [06:02] <feenyx> oh, and BASIC
#1570 [06:02] <Kealper> the stuff i work in looks like basic, if that helps :P
#1571 [06:02] <Kealper> well...basic-esque
#1572 [06:02] <feenyx> it sounds reassuring, but I suspect I'd be up shit creek without a paddle
#1573 [06:03] <Kealper> lol
#1574 [06:05] <Kealper> alright, that issue should be fixed
#1575 [06:07] <Kealper> ok..uhh...didn't fix....yea it did what it was supposed to do...but it went a bit further lol
#1576 [06:09] <fogWork> is am you the whole!?
#1577 [06:09] <Kealper> lolwut
#1578 [06:09] <fogWork> ;)
#1579 [06:09] <Kealper> alrighty, that should do it
#1580 [06:09] <fogWork> Going well?
#1581 [06:10] <Kealper> up until i tried to make it usable by others, yes lol
#1582 [06:10] <fogWork> Ah ;)
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#1584 [06:10] <HaloASC> Can anyone here help with server problems?
#1585 [06:11] <HaloASC> 2010-12-21 10:59:12 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? 2010-12-21 10:59:15 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? 2010-12-21 10:59:18 [INFO] HaloASC lost connection: disconnect.overflow 2010-12-21 10:59:22 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the se
#1586 [06:11] <Kealper> HaloASC: thank you for using Mibbit and not a real irc client, and that issue is affecting everyone rightn ow
#1587 [06:12] <Kealper> right now*
#1588 [06:12] <Kealper> IT LIVES!
#1589 [06:12] <HaloASC> kk and lol i can't be bothered with a real irc client don't use it in the first place
#1590 [06:12] <HaloASC> what LIVES!?
#1591 [06:13] <Kealper> program i'm working on
#1592 [06:13] <HaloASC> kk...
#1593 [06:14] <Kealper> setting up a dir in my projects folder and then i'll throw the link in here
#1594 [06:14] <barrycarlyon> A lot of people are getting the disconnect.overflow message. We're waiting for mojang to get to work.
#1595 [06:14] <feenyx> my mate got a disconnect timeout yesterday
#1596 [06:14] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/projects/Arkive/Arkive.exe
#1597 [06:14] <barrycarlyon> If its a brand new world (generated using all beta) apparently the problem goes away.
#1598 [06:15] <feenyx> dunno how long he was in for before that though, but atleast 30 mins
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#1600 [06:15] <barrycarlyon> So I am told.
#1601 [06:15] <barrycarlyon> Kealper: what ar eyou building?
#1602 [06:15] <Kealper> proprietary archiving format/tool
#1603 [06:15] <Kealper> it's quite fast lol
#1604 [06:15] <barrycarlyon> Ah.
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#1606 [06:15] <barrycarlyon> I just use rsync :-D
#1607 [06:15] <Kealper> well, it's quite fast on my computer anyways
#1608 [06:16] <barrycarlyon> :-D
#1609 [06:16] <Kealper> hmm....
#1610 [06:16] <barrycarlyon> I need to psot my scripts up....
#1611 [06:16] <Kealper> rsync is not what the thing i made is
#1612 [06:17] <barrycarlyon> I'm assuming your thing is backuping minecraft worlds.
#1613 [06:17] <Kealper> not exactly
#1614 [06:17] <barrycarlyon> I use linux command line so rsync ftw.
#1615 [06:17] <Kealper> it takes many files/folders and puts them into one file
#1616 [06:17] <Kealper> much like a zip but without the compression
#1617 [06:18] <Mjiig> Kealper: using what tool?
#1618 [06:18] <fogWork> Holy snaps, avatar thingie = awsum
#1619 [06:18] <barrycarlyon> Kealper: what is is backing up? The entire minecraft install?
#1620 [06:18] <Mjiig> or are you saying you made something that did that?
#1621 [06:18] <Kealper> i made it lol
#1622 [06:18] <Kealper> barrycarlyon: it's intended purpose is the easy transfer of minecraft maps, yes
#1623 [06:18] <Kealper> but it has other uses
#1624 [06:18] <Mjiig> hmm, tar does the same thing
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#1626 [06:19] <barrycarlyon> intriguing
#1627 [06:19] <Kealper> indeed it does, as do all other compression things....but this was made as a PoC to see if i could do it
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#1629 [06:19] <Mjiig> fair enough
#1630 [06:19] <Kealper> and it turns out that it does it's job quite well
#1631 [06:19] <barrycarlyon> ug deploying project takes forever.
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#1633 [06:19] <barrycarlyon> Stupid ftp server thinking its a tree
#1634 [06:20] <Soul> hey ppl
#1635 [06:20] <Kealper> did anyone download it and try it yet? i'm quite interested in knowing how it performs on other computers lol
#1636 [06:20] <Mjiig> Kealper: where is it?
#1637 [06:21] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/projects/Arkive/Arkive.exe
#1638 [06:21] <Mjiig> also what lang did you code it in?
#1639 [06:21] <Soul> can you get tech support here?
#1640 [06:21] <Kealper> AutoIt....lol
#1641 [06:21] <Kealper> Soul: that is what we're here for lol
#1642 [06:21] <Mjiig> ahh sorry, didn't realize it was for win
#1643 [06:21] <Soul> sweet
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#1645 [06:21] <Soul> minecraft has never worked on my comp (win 7) always freezes on the mojang splash screen
#1646 [06:22] <Soul> also the web client freezes too
#1647 [06:22] <Kealper> Soul: for how long? did you just get Minecraft recently?
#1648 [06:22] <Soul> yeah i just bought it yesterday, BUT my mates came round ages ago and tried to install it to show me and it still wouldnt work
#1649 [06:23] <Kealper> oh....how old is your computer?
#1650 [06:23] <Soul> its only a year old
#1651 [06:23] <Soul> it can play SC2
#1652 [06:23] <Soul> TF2, gmod
#1653 [06:23] <Kealper> hmmm...sounds like a beta bug u.u
#1654 [06:24] <Soul> not beta
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#1656 [06:24] <Soul> it nwait
#1657 [06:24] <Soul> yeah
#1658 [06:24] <Soul> no
#1659 [06:24] <Soul> not yeah
#1660 [06:24] <Soul> fail..
#1661 [06:24] <Mjiig> beta only came out yesterday
#1662 [06:24] <fogWork> :P
#1663 [06:24] <Soul> alpha didnt work either
#1664 [06:24] <Mjiig> if your friend tried it before that it was alpha
#1665 [06:24] <fogWork> Beta failed horribly, but still
#1666 [06:24] <Soul> yes
#1667 [06:25] <Soul> i've reinstalled java, even tried the SDK but that didnt help either
#1668 [06:25] <Kealper> fogWork: feel like running said archiver with a few random files/folders and see how long it takes? lol
#1669 [06:25] <barrycarlyon> Soul: windows 7 I hear people need to update graphics drivers.
#1670 [06:25] <fogWork> Well, is it Mac compatible? :P
#1671 [06:25] <Soul> i have the latest
#1672 [06:25] <Kealper> lemme rephrase...
#1673 [06:25] <Kealper> fogWork: wanna see if this works under wine and/or parallels? lol
#1674 [06:25] * fogWork grunts
#1674 [06:25] <fogWork> Guess I could use a PC, link me up
#1675 [06:25] <Mjiig> Kealper: if you like i'll try it in wine
#1676 [06:26] <Kealper> i really need to either move to C# or java lol
#1677 [06:26] <barrycarlyon> Soul how do you know oyu have latest? Windows update is naff at getting lastest
#1678 [06:26] <Mjiig> use java if your going to go to one of those 2
#1679 [06:26] <Soul> nvidea says so lol
#1680 [06:26] <Kealper> ok Mjiig, it should work, it's not calling any libraries of the sorts, just binary file read/writes
#1681 [06:26] <Mjiig> cool
#1682 [06:26] <Soul> nvidia*
#1683 [06:27] <Soul> (you can see it on the nvidia control panel on the computer)
#1684 [06:27] <Kealper> need the link again? usage is fairly straightforward, drag and drop the files or folders you want to add to said archive, and it'll ask what archive to use or create a new one
#1685 [06:28] <fogWork> I got a link? ;O
#1686 [06:28] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/projects/Arkive/Arkive.exe
#1687 [06:28] <fogWork> Even Safari under Mac OS warns me about windows executables :P
#1688 [06:28] <fogWork> Okay, hold on ;)
#1689 [06:28] <Kealper> lol
#1690 [06:29] <Mjiig> is it cli or gui
#1691 [06:29] <Mjiig> fogWork: so does chrome on linux...
#1692 [06:29] <fogWork> ;D
#1693 [06:29] <Kealper> a bit of both, it's cli but it pops up a find file dialog
#1694 [06:29] <Mjiig> k
#1695 [06:29] <Kealper> when i actually make it so i can use it on my server i'll change that so it's all cli
#1696 [06:31] <fogWork> Kealper: roughly 4 seconds for 170 files under 3 folders... both ways
#1697 [06:31] <fogWork> 76mb
#1698 [06:31] <Kealper> meh
#1699 [06:31] <fogWork> It's a celeronlol with 512mb ram under XP ;P
#1700 [06:32] <Kealper> decent....i may have a golden egg with this one O.o
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#1702 [06:32] <fogWork> I can test it on a c2d if you want ;P
#1703 [06:32] <Kealper> if you wouldn't mind lol
#1704 [06:32] <fogWork> Brb then
#1705 [06:34] <Mjiig> Kealper: couldn't get it to work on wine
#1706 [06:34] <Mjiig> probably my fault though
#1707 [06:34] <Mjiig> i'm rubbish at using wine
#1708 [06:34] <Kealper> lol
#1709 [06:34] * Kealper fires up a linux mint vm
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#1710 [06:35] <mr_evil> hello??
#1711 [06:35] <Kealper> hullo
#1712 [06:35] <mr_evil> hi
#1713 [06:35] <Con> Chanserv!
#1714 [06:35] <Con> Voice me!
#1715 [06:35] <mr_evil> how are u?
#1716 [06:35] <mr_evil> me 2
#1717 [06:35] <mr_evil> voice me
#1718 [06:35] <Kealper> xD
#1719 [06:36] <Con> :D
#1720 [06:36] <mr_evil> or do i have to create an account first hehe...
#1721 [06:36] <Kealper> you gotta be special to get voiced O.o
#1722 [06:36] <Mjiig> Kealper: just out of interest, how does it put the files into one? is it just the files catcontated togethere with the EOFs replaced by another char? or more complex :)
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#1724 [06:37] <mr_evil> my mom said that i whas special :)
#1725 [06:37] <Kealper> uh...did you want the short version or the detailed version of how it works? lol
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#1727 [06:37] <Kealper> because it's a bit more than just throwing data into the files with EOFs lol
#1728 [06:37] <Mjiig> short version would be fine :)
#1729 [06:37] <Mjiig> and i appreciate it's more complex just wondered how much so
#1730 [06:38] <Toxip> Is the server software fixed yet?
#1731 [06:38] <fogWork> Roughly cut the time in half there
#1732 [06:38] <mr_evil> Hello
#1733 [06:38] <Kealper> uhh, it's got header information for each file (size, what it should be called, what directory structure it should be in) and then it splits the file into 4mb chunks
#1734 [06:38] <Soul> yo anyone else got any ideas to help me?
#1735 [06:38] <mr_evil> damn
#1736 [06:38] <mr_evil> kealper
#1737 [06:38] <Kealper> hmm?
#1738 [06:39] <mr_evil> i created an account but im still named mr_evil!!
#1739 [06:39] <fogWork> Kealper: my reply above :P
#1740 [06:39] <mr_evil> i´ve
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#1742 [06:39] <Kealper> fogWork: oh my....this is a quickin' lol
#1743 [06:39] <L1ght> Hello Guys
#1744 [06:39] <fogWork> It has a faster drive and more ram so ;P
#1745 [06:39] <Kealper> well...i'm quite proud of one night's work
#1746 [06:40] <mr_evil> help!
#1747 [06:40] <Kealper> with?
#1748 [06:40] <L1ght> I have a question , should i set up a new alpha server or should i wait for the beta multiplayer server version?
#1749 [06:40] <fogWork> Beta is out
#1750 [06:40] <mr_evil> why im still named mr_evil
#1751 [06:40] <fogWork> Don't bother with alpha, it's obsolete
#1752 [06:40] <Spider08044> wow new update out
#1753 [06:40] <Kealper> mr_evil: you can't change your name that you bought the game with
#1754 [06:40] <Spider08044> feels even more laggy
#1755 [06:41] <mr_evil> I mean here in the chatt
#1756 [06:41] <Kealper> oh....
#1757 [06:41] <Kealper> type /nick nicknamehere
#1758 [06:41] <mr_evil> ty
#1759 [06:41] <L1ght> The beta of the multiplayer servers are not out yet
#1760 [06:41] <L1ght> so
#1761 [06:41] <Kealper> where nicknamehere is what you want your new nickname to me
#1762 [06:41] <Kealper> be*
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#1764 [06:41] <Kealper> yes they are Lisimba
#1765 [06:41] <Kealper> fail
#1766 [06:41] * mr_evil is now known as nicknamehere
#1767 [06:41] * GLaDOS is now known as SuperGLaDOSBoy
#1768 [06:41] <nicknamehere> damn
#1769 [06:41] <Kealper> L1ght:
#1770 [06:42] <Kealper> stupid 1s
#1771 [06:42] <Soul> hey kealper, can you help me get minecraft up and running?
#1772 [06:42] * nicknamehere is now known as xXOPTICXx
#1773 [06:42] <Con> SuperGLaDOSBoy: TRANSVESTITE?!?
#1774 [06:42] <xXOPTICXx> yeah
#1775 [06:42] <Spider08044> anyone else do large scale projects?
#1776 [06:42] <Kealper> [06:41] <Kealper> where nicknamehere is what you want your new nickname to me
#1777 [06:42] <Con> transsexual*
#1778 [06:42] <xXOPTICXx> and now 4 my question
#1779 [06:42] <Kealper> so i would type /nick Kealper
#1780 [06:42] <Kealper> if i wanted my name to be Kealper
#1781 [06:42] <Kealper> anywho
#1782 [06:42] <Con> Kealper Nickname is already in use.
#1783 [06:42] <Kealper> continue
#1784 [06:42] <Con> :|
#1785 [06:42] <Kealper> Con: NOWAI
#1786 [06:43] <Kealper> that name stealer!
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#1788 [06:43] <Soul> kealper can you help me get minecraft up and runnin?
#1789 [06:43] <Kealper> Soul: there is really nothing that i can do if it has just never worked for you :S
#1790 [06:43] <Spider08044> kealper
#1791 [06:43] <Soul> kk lol
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#1793 [06:44] <Soul> thanks anyways
#1794 [06:44] <Kealper> yes Spider08044?
#1795 [06:44] <mib_esuneg> Hello
#1796 [06:44] <Spider08044> can you think of anything large for me to build
#1797 [06:44] * Kealper hides
#1797 [06:44] <mib_esuneg> Help please
#1798 [06:44] <Soul> (tempted to do a total wipe)
#1799 [06:44] <Spider08044> im contemplating
#1800 [06:44] <mib_esuneg> Question
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#1802 [06:44] <Con> :o
#1803 [06:44] <Kealper> Spider08044: i'm insanely tired right now, i can't even think about anything, let alone something creative lol
#1804 [06:44] <mib_esuneg> is most of the stuff fixed on Multiplayer now?
#1805 [06:44] <Spider08044> mib
#1806 [06:44] <Spider08044> no
#1807 [06:44] <Kealper> mib_esuneg: the beta bugs?
#1808 [06:44] <Kealper> heck no
#1809 [06:44] <Con> Spider08044: My head.
#1810 [06:44] <mib_esuneg> wait
#1811 [06:44] <Spider08044> its more laggy than a grandma playing baseball
#1812 [06:45] <mib_esuneg> wait
#1813 [06:45] <mib_esuneg> what if its me and my brother playing together lan>
#1814 [06:45] <mib_esuneg> do people die now?
#1815 [06:45] <Spider08044> yes..
#1816 [06:45] <Spider08044> for a very long time people can die
#1817 [06:45] <mib_esuneg> and do zombies work
#1818 [06:45] <Kealper> yes...
#1819 [06:45] <Spider08044> yessssssssssss
#1820 [06:45] <Spider08044> for a VERY long time
#1821 [06:45] <mib_esuneg> how long
#1822 [06:45] <mib_esuneg> lol
#1823 [06:45] <Spider08044> months
#1824 [06:45] <Kealper> like a month now
#1825 [06:45] <mib_esuneg> kk
#1826 [06:46] <mib_esuneg> ah cool
#1827 [06:46] <mib_esuneg> ty
#1828 [06:46] <fogWork> Haha, Kealper, when you posted on my forums, did you receive an alert?
#1829 [06:46] <Con> oh no, a query
#1830 [06:46] <mib_esuneg> and what about doors?
#1831 [06:46] <Kealper> fogWork: in my email? uhh...i think
#1832 [06:46] <xXOPTICXx> I´ve bought Minecraft butt on Minecraft.net i´t says: You need to buy the game to be able to change your skin. !! Whats freaking wrong!!
#1833 [06:46] <Spider08044> doors tnt electricity
#1834 [06:46] <Kealper> yes i did
#1835 [06:46] <fogWork> No, the forums ;D
#1836 [06:46] <Spider08044> they all work mang
#1837 [06:46] <Kealper> oh, not sure....lol
#1838 [06:46] <Con> xXOPTICXx: payment lag
#1839 [06:46] <Spider08044> its just super laggy right now
#1840 [06:46] <fogWork> It has trophies! :P
#1841 [06:46] <xXOPTICXx> how long??
#1842 [06:46] <Kealper> o.o
#1843 [06:46] <Spider08044> kealper did you see my boat?
#1844 [06:46] <Kealper> indeed
#1845 [06:46] <fogWork> You should of have received one for your first post ;)
#1846 [06:47] <Kealper> and it'was a purdy boat
#1847 [06:47] <DFC> hmmmm
#1848 [06:47] <mib_esuneg> Are they going to make a Christmas Patch?
#1849 [06:47] <Spider08044> im contemplating the isd executor
#1850 [06:47] <xXOPTICXx> cuzz I´ve been waiting for one and a half week
#1851 [06:47] <Spider08044> but i dont think minecraft is big enought
#1852 [06:47] <Spider08044> optic it shouldnt take that long
#1853 [06:47] <Spider08044> send an email to billing
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#1856 [06:48] <Spider08044> anyway i dont think minecraft can hold the executor
#1857 [06:48] <Kealper> alright....i'm off to bed, i'll work on making that arkive thing actually usable tomorrow lol
#1858 [06:48] <xXOPTICXx> but 1& a half week
#1859 [06:48] <xXOPTICXx> sleeo well keapler
#1860 [06:48] <Kealper> Spider08044: it could, minecraft worlds can be up to 8x larger than the earth
#1861 [06:48] <xXOPTICXx> sleep
#1862 [06:49] <xXOPTICXx> no way?
#1863 [06:49] <Spider08044> keal
#1864 [06:49] <Con> NO KEALPER
#1865 [06:49] <Spider08044> the maps only 128 spaces high
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#1867 [06:49] <Spider08044> the executor has over 130 decks
#1868 [06:49] * Con bombs Kealper's sleeping place
#1868 [06:49] <Kealper> oh, height
#1869 [06:49] <Mjiig> executor?
#1870 [06:49] <Kealper> yea....lol
#1871 [06:49] <Spider08044> thats 260 spaces of room not counting floors
#1872 [06:49] <Spider08044> or towers
#1873 [06:49] <Spider08044> i wish he would raise the height again
#1874 [06:49] <Spider08044> was stupid he lowered it
#1875 [06:50] <Spider08044> make a server option
#1876 [06:50] <xXOPTICXx> why can´t i hear u guys speak??
#1877 [06:50] <Kealper> anywho, thanks fogWork, Mjiig, for helping me test said archiver...
#1878 [06:50] * Kealper bids #MineCraftHelp adiu
#1878 [06:50] <fogWork> I think this one PC case may be cursed, 3 different motherboards with varying hardware tested in it, neither gives picture on the monitor... at least 2 of the 3 motherboards are confirmed to work
#1879 [06:50] <fogWork> Enjoys teh sleeps, Kealper
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#1881 [06:51] <Spider08044> by varying hardware do you mean varying video cards
#1882 [06:51] <fogWork> Video cards, processors, RAM, PSU's
#1883 [06:51] <Spider08044> or not using one
#1884 [06:51] <Mjiig> fogWork: i assume that you've confirmed the monitor works?
#1885 [06:51] <Spider08044> XD
#1886 [06:51] <xXOPTICXx> i´t stilla says that i have to buy it!
#1887 [06:51] <fogWork> Monitor works, otherwise I wouldn't be seeing what you type :P
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#1889 [06:51] <xXOPTICXx> it still says that i have to buy it
#1890 [06:52] <Mjiig> fogWork: i assumed we were talking about a different rig
#1891 [06:52] <xXOPTICXx> yeah
#1892 [06:52] <xXOPTICXx> ...
#1893 [06:52] <Spider08044> who wants to see my boat
#1894 [06:52] <fogWork> The case is next to me ;P
#1895 [06:52] <Spider08044> http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b95/spider0804/boat.png
#1896 [06:52] <xXOPTICXx> me mem me mem me
#1897 [06:52] <Spider08044> cuz im on a boa
#1898 [06:52] <Spider08044> t
#1899 [06:52] <xXOPTICXx> haha
#1900 [06:52] <Mjiig> xXOPTICXx: if it's been that long email mojang on the payment adresss
#1901 [06:52] <Spider08044> i told him to do that
#1902 [06:53] <Spider08044> he doesnt read :(
#1903 [06:53] <Mjiig> Spider08044: i know
#1904 [06:53] <Mjiig> i thought i'd try again
#1905 [06:53] <xXOPTICXx> ok but where do i find that cuz i got it as a gift from a friend
#1906 [06:53] <xXOPTICXx> a gift code
#1907 [06:53] <fogWork> www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#1908 [06:53] <fogWork> Enter code
#1909 [06:53] <fogWork> Profit
#1910 [06:53] <Mjiig> xXOPTICXx: have you redeemed the code?
#1911 [06:53] <xXOPTICXx> yes
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#1913 [06:55] <xXOPTICXx> mjiig?
#1914 [06:55] <Mjiig> i can't remember what the adressis
#1915 [06:55] <Mjiig> *address is
#1916 [06:56] <Mjiig> i'll go and check
#1917 [06:56] <Mjiig> http://www.minecraft.net/support.jsp
#1918 [06:56] <xXOPTICXx> ok thank 4 your support
#1919 [06:56] <Mjiig> you want the 3rd question on that page
#1920 [06:57] <Spider08044> so mikiig
#1921 [06:57] <Spider08044> mijiig
#1922 [06:57] <Spider08044> do you have any experience with large scale projects
#1923 [06:57] <xXOPTICXx> why does microsoft outlook open?
#1924 [06:57] <Mjiig> Spider08044: no
#1925 [06:58] <Mjiig> i've been playing minecraft for less than a week
#1926 [06:58] <Spider08044> oh
#1927 [06:58] <xXOPTICXx> why does it guys?
#1928 [06:58] <Mjiig> i can only offer support because i've actually read a lot ofthe site :)
#1929 [06:58] <Spider08044> i consider myself all knowing in everything except howto convert a 3d image into a minecraft blueprint
#1930 [06:58] <fogWork> Rightclick and copy instead of clicking it
#1931 [06:58] <Mjiig> xXOPTICXx: because it's an email address
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#1933 [06:58] <Mjiig> so it opens your email client
#1934 [06:58] <fogWork> Paste E-Mail into whateveryou'reusingtosendemails
#1935 [06:58] <xXOPTICXx> oh ty
#1936 [06:58] <Spider08044> so mijiig any questions i can help YOU with :O
#1937 [06:59] <xXOPTICXx> I´m from Sweden by the way XD
#1938 [06:59] <Mjiig> i'm cool
#1939 [06:59] <Mjiig> i like discovering stuff by trial and error
#1940 [06:59] <Mjiig> and it is a sand box game...
#1941 [06:59] <Spider08044> my idea of sandbox is a beach and a big caterpillar making a sand fortress
#1942 [06:59] <Spider08044> bwaha
#1943 [06:59] <Spider08044> hwahaahaa
#1944 [07:00] <Spider08044> i like to make big things >_>
#1945 [07:00] <DFC> within how many blocks do you need to be for one of those fancy spawners to work
#1946 [07:00] <Spider08044> monster towers?
#1947 [07:00] <DFC> spawners
#1948 [07:00] <Spider08044> what kind of spawner...
#1949 [07:00] <Spider08044> theres many spawners
#1950 [07:00] <DFC> the one that comes in a flaming box
#1951 [07:01] <Spider08044> what im asking is
#1952 [07:01] <Spider08044> what is being spawned
#1953 [07:01] <Spider08044> items monsters lava cobblestone water
#1954 [07:01] <Spider08044> obsidian
#1955 [07:01] <Spider08044> what
#1956 [07:01] <DFC> monsters
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#1958 [07:01] <DFC> oops
#1959 [07:01] <DFC> i forgot to say monster
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#1961 [07:02] <Spider08044> they are pretty big i could find you a diagram if you want
#1962 [07:02] <Spider08044> you need probobly about 1500 blocks, lava , water
#1963 [07:02] <DFC> there are designs for what
#1964 [07:02] <DFC> a 75x75 monster farm
#1965 [07:02] <DFC> lol
#1966 [07:03] <Spider08044> yea
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#1968 [07:04] <DFC> actually hmmm
#1969 [07:04] <DFC> that i could try building those
#1970 [07:04] <fogWork> "I have a scary feeling the lag some people get might be leaf decay. Grraaaaahhh!!" -Notch
#1971 [07:04] <Spider08044> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=55552
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#1973 [07:04] <Spider08044> tutorial on a monster tower
#1974 [07:05] <DFC> holy crap
#1975 [07:05] <DFC> 11510 items per hour
#1976 [07:05] <Spider08044> white space means empty
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#1978 [07:06] <Mjiig> but it says that that is no longer correct
#1979 [07:07] <Spider08044> crap
#1980 [07:07] <DFC> nah
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#1982 [07:07] <DFC> it seems like i could use someone else's lava trap
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#1994 [07:26] <mistenkt> Christmas shopping done! Now minecraft!
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#1996 [07:31] <Demki> I need help, I can't connect to classic servers.
#1997 [07:32] <fogWork> What happens?
#1998 [07:32] <fogWork> Morning Grey ;)
#1999 [07:33] * GreyVulpine mrahs
#1999 [07:33] <Con> MRAAAHHH
#2000 [07:36] <Con> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=mrah&go=Look+up
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#2003 [07:41] <Demki> fogWork,: I just choose a server from the list(or go to the url that someone linked me to), minecraft starts loading, and then it says "Failed to connect You failed to connect to the server. It's probably down!", it happens for every server I tried
#2004 [07:41] <fogWork> Hmm
#2005 [07:41] <Demki> and yes, I have played before
#2006 [07:41] <Demki> and it worked before
#2007 [07:42] <fogWork> Try this one; http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=9f4e639f4750df0a26809f01f4ca2e13
#2008 [07:42] <Demki> same thing
#2009 [07:43] <fogWork> I see your attempts in the log
#2010 [07:43] * fogWork scratches GreyVulpine's mighty beard
#2010 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#2011 [07:45] <fogWork> Session.IoLoop: Unable to read data from the transport connection: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond.
#2012 [07:45] <fogWork> Does it instantly too... hrm
#2013 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> Maybe delete the temp files from the browser pertaining to minecraft?
#2014 [07:46] * fogWork nods
#2014 [07:46] <fogWork> That's the only solution I can see right now
#2015 [07:46] <Demki> nope
#2016 [07:47] <Demki> maybe it's the stupid windows firewall acting up?
#2017 [07:48] <fogWork> Doesn't seem like it, but can't hurt to try
#2018 [07:48] <Demki> not it
#2019 [07:49] <fogWork> I don't think the NIC issues apply to classic, but can't hurt to explore that area either
#2020 [07:50] <Demki> I was able to play before on this same computer.
#2021 [07:51] <fogWork> Installed / removed / updated anything recently?
#2022 [07:51] <Demki> maybe it's the java
#2023 [07:51] <fogWork> u23 is out
#2024 [07:51] <Demki> u23?
#2025 [07:51] <fogWork> Though I haven't tested it myself
#2026 [07:51] <fogWork> Update 23 of Java
#2027 [07:53] <Demki> hm...
#2028 [07:53] <Demki> now it didn't immediately fail
#2029 [07:53] <Demki> I know what it was
#2030 [07:53] <Demki> it was java
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#2032 [07:54] * fogWork shakes a fist @ Java
#2032 [07:54] <Demki> I had version 1.7.0 of jre. since I started learning java and I got to the file IO part and it had a part with a version that's sort of in testing
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#2034 [07:55] <fogWork> :P
#2035 [07:55] <Demki> brb
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#2038 [07:57] <Ghostfucker> hi^^ is there any fix or update for the mcadmin tool?
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#2042 [07:58] <Demki> i'll just completely reinstall java
#2043 [07:58] <Demki> lol
#2044 [07:58] <Demki> cause now it freezes
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#2046 [07:59] <fogWork> Ghostfucker: ask the developer
#2047 [07:59] <Ghostfucker> -.- and where?
#2048 [08:00] <GreyVulpine> http://mcadmin.eu
#2049 [08:00] <Ghostfucker> thy
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#2051 [08:03] <Omen> Is there any way to fix mouse stutters/slow downs?
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#2056 [08:07] <Demki> that's good enough for me
#2057 [08:08] <Demki> it just loads slowly, which is something I am fine with
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#2064 [08:19] <edahl> hey guys
#2065 [08:20] <edahl> i have a problem with minecraft
#2066 [08:20] <edahl> it doesn't run!
#2067 [08:20] <edahl> when i log in, it just shuts down
#2068 [08:21] <edahl> anybody able to offer some insight?
#2069 [08:21] <barrycarlyon> What operating system are you on edahl ?
#2070 [08:21] <edahl> xp
#2071 [08:21] <edahl> 32-bit
#2072 [08:22] <barrycarlyon> Thats a new one. Some mac osc 10.5 users has had problems.
#2073 [08:22] <barrycarlyon> Are you getting the mojang splash screen?
#2074 [08:22] <barrycarlyon> Or is it just not startign at all?
#2075 [08:22] <edahl> not really no
#2076 [08:22] <barrycarlyon> First thing to do is make sure graphics drivers, windows, java are all upto date.
#2077 [08:22] <edahl> i get the login screen
#2078 [08:23] <edahl> drivers are probably a good idea. if amd.com stops exploding on me as well, that will probably fix it
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#2082 [08:25] <penorzilla> Is there still the issue that players will get disconnected as soon as they login to your server?
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#2084 [08:26] <edahl> thanks barry, i'll try that
#2085 [08:26] <penorzilla> Even after b v1.0.2 no one can connect, they'll get DC'd with a overflow error
#2086 [08:26] <penorzilla> but my alpha server still works with people connecting
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#2088 [08:27] <Epiqke> hi
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#2091 [08:27] <Epiqke> does anybody get the Protocol Error when trying to connect on a smp server ?
#2092 [08:28] <Con> YES
#2093 [08:28] <Con> Everyone is getting it
#2094 [08:28] <Epiqke> ok
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#2096 [08:29] <Epiqke> There is any fix ?
#2097 [08:29] <GreyVulpine> Wait for the next update tomorrow
#2098 [08:30] <Epiqke> Ok
#2099 [08:30] <edahl> damn, drivers didn't work
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#2101 [08:31] <Mjiig> GreyVulpine: did notch say it would take until tomorrow? i would've thought they'd try and get that one resolved before the end of today
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#2104 [08:31] <edahl> i want to play sooo bad :C
#2105 [08:31] <GreyVulpine> To play it safe, "tomorrow" is going to be my answer
#2106 [08:31] <Mjiig> fair enough
#2107 [08:31] * Con looks at his clock
#2107 [08:31] <Con> Yeah!
#2108 [08:32] <Con> Tomorrow in: 23 hours 28 minutes
#2109 [08:32] <mistenkt> minecraft are fun
#2110 [08:32] <Mjiig> i hope leaf decay stays in this time... it's really annoying have loads of floating leaves
#2111 [08:33] <mistenkt> oooh so thats what leaf decay is?
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#2113 [08:33] <mistenkt> when ur emove the wood the leaf goes away eh?
#2114 [08:33] <Con> New leaf decay is great and very reliable
#2115 [08:33] <mistenkt> nice
#2116 [08:33] <mistenkt> no more fires
#2117 [08:33] <Con> It's fast
#2118 [08:34] <Mjiig> Con: yeah but notch thinks it might be causing lag
#2119 [08:34] <Con> It goes away if there's no non-leaf blocks supporting the heap of leaves
#2120 [08:36] <mistenkt> what did he fix in 1.0.1 and 1.0.2? cuz when 1.0 came out i noticed the bug when u destroy the minecart ur riding makes u fall through the ground was back
#2121 [08:36] <mistenkt> fuckin killed me and made me lose all my awesome gear :(
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#2123 [08:38] <edahl> hmmh, i'm having no luck here. i log in and the game shuts down. if i delete .minecraft it redownloads and shuts down again
#2124 [08:39] <peru> mistenkt, same here.. luckily, it was inside my base :O so i got it all back
#2125 [08:39] <mistenkt> what do u mean u got it back?
#2126 [08:39] <peru> my items
#2127 [08:39] <mistenkt> how?
#2128 [08:39] <mistenkt> they dropped on the ground ?
#2129 [08:40] <peru> yes, they dropped .. funnily, 1 level below which was empty (except for redtone wire)
#2130 [08:40] <mistenkt> lucky
#2131 [08:40] <peru> so i had to dig to get to them
#2132 [08:46] <mbentley> edahl: what os? windows?
#2133 [08:46] <mistenkt> xp i think he said
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#2135 [08:47] <mbentley> you might want to try to download the client .jar and then open up a command prompt window and run it from the command line to get some more useful error messages
#2136 [08:47] <mbentley> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.jar
#2137 [08:48] <edahl> mbentley: xp
#2138 [08:48] <edahl> i have an error log
#2139 [08:49] <edahl> i could post it on the forums
#2140 [08:49] <edahl> it doesn't tell me much
#2141 [08:49] <mbentley> you can just toss it on http://pastebin.com/
#2142 [08:49] <mbentley> then paste the link in here
#2143 [08:49] <mbentley> just copy the contents from the log file
#2144 [08:50] <mistenkt> there is nothing i hate more then the sound of a fuckin skeleton
#2145 [08:50] <edahl> http://pastebin.com/8Aujg7yE
#2146 [08:50] <mistenkt> creepers aint got shit on a skeleton
#2147 [08:51] <edahl> does it tell you anything?
#2148 [08:51] <mbentley> hmm
#2149 [08:51] <mbentley> almost sounds like a memory error
#2150 [08:52] <edahl> hmh, perhaps
#2151 [08:52] <mbentley> running at stock speeds?
#2152 [08:52] <edahl> yup
#2153 [08:53] <mbentley> might consider running memtest86+ to verify you are not getting memory errors
#2154 [08:53] <mbentley> http://www.memtest.org/
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#2156 [08:53] <mbentley> another thing is that it could be a video card driver issue
#2157 [08:54] <mbentley> atioglxx.dll = ati video drivers
#2158 [08:54] <mbentley> totally missed that line before...
#2159 [08:54] <DFC> oh ati
#2160 [08:54] <edahl> well might be. i just updated
#2161 [08:54] <mbentley> that's a smoking gun right there, imo
#2162 [08:55] <edahl> it's a 9800 pro
#2163 [08:55] <edahl> antique, but it should work. there are ati problems?
#2164 [08:55] <DFC> what
#2165 [08:55] <mbentley> shouldn't be
#2166 [08:55] <DFC> your 9800 is still working?
#2167 [08:55] <edahl> yup
#2168 [08:55] <DFC> my 4870x2 is burnt out already
#2169 [08:55] <DFC> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFf
#2170 [08:55] <edahl> hehe
#2171 [08:55] <mbentley> i have a mobile 9800 in a laptop i use as a htpc :)
#2172 [08:56] <edahl> this old thing hasn't seen too much use i think
#2173 [08:56] <edahl> but the minecraft not working bit is hella annoyig
#2174 [08:56] <edahl> annoying*
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#2176 [08:57] <mbentley> did you say that you just updated your video drivers?
#2177 [08:57] <mbentley> from ati's site?
#2178 [08:57] <edahl> yup
#2179 [08:57] <mbentley> odd
#2180 [08:57] <edahl> perhaps i should try omega or something
#2181 [08:57] <mbentley> those should be stable drivers seeing as it is the legacy ones..
#2182 [08:58] <mbentley> might be worth a shot or maybe just rolling back to the previous driver version
#2183 [08:59] <edahl> didn't work which is why i updated
#2184 [08:59] <mbentley> ah
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#2186 [09:00] <barrycarlyon> Windows update is notoriously bad for driver updates, best to go straight ot manufacutrer sites.
#2187 [09:00] <mbentley> can't remember if there are generic windows xp ati drivers
#2188 [09:00] <edahl> there is an opengl problem on another computer i'm running, which also wasn't mended by driver luvin', but that's another story
#2189 [09:00] <mbentley> but yeah, they tend to be old and lacking in features
#2190 [09:00] <edahl> hmmh. i'll try the omega ones
#2191 [09:00] <mbentley> yeah, it sounds like an opengl issue from what i can tell about that .dll
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#2194 [09:05] <Taatero> Hello, i just came here to ask, is there a server mod/plugin that saves the time, coordinites and the players name when ever a block of tnt is placed
#2195 [09:05] <Taatero> and same with starting fires would be neat
#2196 [09:07] <mbentley> not that i know of but i am not really up to speed on mods to be honest
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#2203 [09:14] <edahl> omega worked, thanks!
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#2205 [09:15] <mbentley> sweet
#2206 [09:15] <mbentley> no prob
#2207 [09:15] <mbentley> would be devastating to not be able to play minecraft :D
#2208 [09:16] <edahl> yeah heck
#2209 [09:16] <edahl> i've been watching tutorials on youtube
#2210 [09:16] <mbentley> i'm a bit sad that i am not longer able to run minecraft on my work laptop :(
#2211 [09:16] <edahl> it has made me so pumped up for it :-D
#2212 [09:17] <mbentley> it just keeps getting more and more resource hungry and this laptop is pretty weak with the integrated intel graphics
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#2215 [09:19] <TahMahn> Hey, does anyone know how to make the norwegian letters (æøå) work on a minecraft server?
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#2217 [09:19] <edahl> haha, it's actually lagging
#2218 [09:19] <edahl> but it's fine
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#2220 [09:20] <xaviergmail> hey, I`mat school atm and my gay school blocked minecraft.net so the client can`t connect
#2221 [09:20] <TahMahn> Tried working through proxy?
#2222 [09:20] <xaviergmail> I tried using ultrasurf and play from my browser but it says it can`t use activex
#2223 [09:21] <mbentley> you can pass java variables to connect through a proxy
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#2225 [09:21] <xaviergmail> how
#2226 [09:22] <mbentley> well first of all, do you have a proxy to go through?
#2227 [09:22] <xaviergmail> ultrasurf
#2228 [09:23] <mbentley> i use this: "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe" -DsocksProxyHost=localhost -DsocksProxyPort=8080 -Xmx1024M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2229 [09:23] <mbentley> you need to use the .jar only, not the exe afaik
#2230 [09:23] <mbentley> you would just need to change 'localhost' and '8080' to whatever host and port your proxy is on
#2231 [09:23] <TahMahn> Hmm, thats not too shabby. I might use that at school! thanks mate :3
#2232 [09:23] <mbentley> np
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#2234 [09:24] <mbentley> you might have to specify the full path of the 'Minecraft.jar' file and put it in quotes but i think you get the idea
#2235 [09:26] <xaviergmail> doesent work with ultrasurf :(
#2236 [09:26] <mbentley> what i do is tunnel over a ssh connection
#2237 [09:26] <xaviergmail> can someone make ma a mirror of hotspotshield? :D
#2238 [09:26] <mbentley> i just use putty to ssh into my server at home and create a local tunnel
#2239 [09:27] <Taatero> lol sami .D
#2240 [09:28] * xaviergmail needs a proxy :D
#2240 [09:28] * xaviergmail is at school :(
#2240 [09:28] <edahl> any tips on improving framerate?
#2241 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> Render distance and quality
#2242 [09:28] <Taatero> New computer helps alot
#2243 [09:28] <xaviergmail> oh it works now
#2244 [09:29] <xaviergmail> FUUUUUUUUUUCCCKKK
#2245 [09:29] <xaviergmail> this gay computer doesent even have opengl
#2246 [09:29] * xaviergmail ragequits
#2246 [09:29] <Taatero> And, of course, try to get some load off the cpu
#2247 [09:29] <edahl> i think the machine is actually underclocked
#2248 [09:30] <edahl> i should do something about that
#2249 [09:30] <Taatero> i agree
#2250 [09:31] <edahl> well, i'm giving my system some care. later and thanks for the help
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#2253 [09:33] <xaviergmail> tjhey should make a kind of secret site
#2254 [09:33] <xaviergmail> like
#2255 [09:33] <xaviergmail> minecraftaccountconnect.net
#2256 [09:33] <xaviergmail> to let accs connect
#2257 [09:33] <xaviergmail> D:
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#2259 [09:38] <TahMahn> Still, does anyone here know how to make special characters work on a minecraft server?
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#2264 [09:44] <GLaDOS> TahMahn: if you want to code java, give every single client a modded jar and add a char to font.png, sure!
#2265 [09:44] <GLaDOS> if not, then shut up.
#2266 [09:44] <TahMahn> ...sure, thanks.
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#2268 [09:47] <CJ> Hey guys
#2269 [09:47] <CJ> Anyone know about fixes for server commands?
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#2273 [09:51] <CJ> Hey
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#2277 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> I predict a mass netsplit
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#2280 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes... yes, it's coming to me now.
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#2282 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> Uber netsplit.
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#2300 [09:53] <CJ> Here come the Jellies
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#2325 [09:55] <Snowey111> Grey, if you have nothing better to do :D
#2326 [09:56] * GreyVulpine hides
#2326 [09:56] * fogWraith snickers
#2326 [09:56] <Snowey111> oh so he's not here :/
#2327 [09:56] * fogWraith tosses smokebombs about
#2327 [09:56] <Snowey111> ah well, guess il just go and throw away this cookie he was gonna get.
#2328 [09:56] <fogWraith> None of us are!
#2329 [09:57] <Snowey111> No wait, il eat it
#2330 [09:57] * Snowey111 om nom nom
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#2331 [09:57] * GLaDOS grabs the cookie
#2331 [09:57] <Snowey111> 2 late
#2332 [09:57] <GLaDOS> i hope you like eating holograms
#2333 [09:57] <Snowey111> it's in mah belleh
#2334 [09:57] <Snowey111> OH NOES
#2335 [09:57] * GLaDOS runs, and gives GreyVulpine his cookie
#2335 [09:57] <Snowey111> :o
#2336 [09:57] <Snowey111> but
#2337 [09:57] <Snowey111> he's not here!
#2338 [09:58] <Snowey111> oh wait
#2339 [09:58] <Snowey111> there he is
#2340 [09:58] * GLaDOS is away
#2340 [09:58] <Snowey111> hi grey, what are you doing in the closet. Come out already
#2341 [09:58] <fogWraith> Har har
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#2344 [09:59] <Snowey111> well im not sticking around here.
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#2347 [09:59] <Snowey111> Im going to the hospital, hologram cookies might be dangerous.
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#2349 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> http://work.failblog.org/2010/12/01/job-lols-finnish-your-work/
#2350 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> Teehee
#2351 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> I need to do that one day.
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#2353 [10:01] <Snowey111> You know what you also has to do one day.
#2354 [10:01] * GreyVulpine re-hides
#2354 [10:01] <Snowey111> damnit.
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#2356 [10:01] <Snowey111> bye for realz.
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#2370 [10:20] <Coll> oh shit
#2371 [10:20] <Coll> when did a bot tell us about mods now?
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#2382 [10:36] <TahMahn> Hey, what type of Linux distro. should I set up a minecraft server on?
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#2384 [10:37] <Coll> I dont think it really matters
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#2386 [10:38] <TahMahn> oh, okey then. thanks
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#2392 [10:44] <Milton> hi, my power went out and my save disappeared from the list, but the folder appears intact, can I restore it somehow?
#2393 [10:45] <Kealper> no
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#2395 [10:47] <Milton> really? damn.. thanks anyways
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#2397 [10:51] <fogWraith> What are you doing up again, Kealper? :P
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#2399 [10:53] <Toxip> Hello, is the server bug fixed yet?
#2400 [10:55] <fogWraith> Most likely not
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#2402 [10:59] <mbentley> generally can follow notch's blog @ http://notch.tumblr.com/
#2403 [11:02] <Toxip> I guess all I can do is wait
#2404 [11:03] <Toxip> But there's working beta servers out there but I can't get mine to work
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#2407 [11:07] <Kealper> damnit
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#2409 [11:07] <Kealper> i just wanna sleep.....
#2410 [11:08] <Kealper> but my sister and some other random person decideded they both want their computers fixed....
#2411 [11:08] * Kealper groans
#2411 [11:08] <fogWraith> :P
#2412 [11:08] <jellowiggler> oh the pain of the family IT guy. at least you aren't a plumber!
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#2414 [11:08] <Kealper> lol
#2415 [11:09] <krebbit> hey everyone i have a question
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#2417 [11:09] <krebbit> hrllo
#2418 [11:10] <Z3r05t4r> hey guys
#2419 [11:10] <Z3r05t4r> i got a question
#2420 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> The answer is 42
#2421 [11:10] <Z3r05t4r> with the update 1.01_01 or 1.02 (not sure) did the server software get updated?
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#2423 [11:10] <Z3r05t4r> except 42 ;)
#2424 [11:10] <Z3r05t4r> hey vulpine :o
#2425 [11:10] <Kealper> grey remember that archive thing i was working on but extracting was painfully slow?
#2426 [11:10] <fogWraith> Server did not update, only client
#2427 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2428 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> No?
#2429 [11:10] <Z3r05t4r> hm.
#2430 [11:11] <Z3r05t4r> then i have to ask the one server owner
#2431 [11:11] <Z3r05t4r> why i cant login
#2432 [11:11] <Z3r05t4r> i dont assume i got banned :3
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#2434 [11:11] <Kealper> oh....well then, nvm lol
#2435 [11:11] <Z3r05t4r> but when i try to join i get a connection reset
#2436 [11:11] <Z3r05t4r> i get in
#2437 [11:11] <krebbit> how do i play it says user not premium play online once to enabke offline
#2438 [11:11] <Z3r05t4r> but within a slight part of a second.
#2439 [11:11] <Z3r05t4r> i get kicked out
#2440 [11:11] <Z3r05t4r> with connection reset
#2441 [11:11] <Kealper> krebbit: did you buy the game?
#2442 [11:12] <krebbit> no i just downloaded it from the website
#2443 [11:12] <Kealper> Z3r05t4r: it's probably the beta bug that's been going around
#2444 [11:12] <Z3r05t4r> hm?
#2445 [11:12] <Kealper> krebbit: you have to pay to play the survival mode
#2446 [11:12] <Z3r05t4r> so this issue exists?
#2447 [11:12] <Z3r05t4r> because he uses the server software
#2448 [11:12] <Z3r05t4r> which was released
#2449 [11:12] <Z3r05t4r> on the day of the beta 1.0
#2450 [11:12] <krebbit> how do i do that i have no options except to login
#2451 [11:12] <Z3r05t4r> well
#2452 [11:12] <Z3r05t4r> krebbit
#2453 [11:12] <Z3r05t4r> there is a single way
#2454 [11:13] <Z3r05t4r> to play "offline"
#2455 [11:13] <Kealper> you buy it from http://minecraft.net
#2456 [11:13] * GreyVulpine baps Z3r05t4r
#2456 [11:13] <Z3r05t4r> but i dont think its allowed to tell here.
#2457 [11:13] <Z3r05t4r> ;)
#2458 [11:13] <Kealper> Z3r05t4r: BAD!! lol
#2459 [11:13] <Z3r05t4r> sry mates :P
#2460 [11:13] <Z3r05t4r> im not gonna tell it
#2461 [11:13] <Z3r05t4r> btw, my server doesnt work still :3
#2462 [11:14] <Z3r05t4r> but nvm that.
#2463 [11:14] * [Husky]Shnaw|Sleep is now known as [Husky]Shnaw
#2464 [11:15] <Z3r05t4r> hm. though i might retry once
#2465 [11:15] <Z3r05t4r> if it doesnt work nvm again.
#2466 [11:15] <Z3r05t4r> lol.
#2467 [11:15] <Kealper> i doubt it will...there are tons of issues right now....and i have heard it through the grape vine that it's something with alpha maps that are causing it
#2468 [11:16] <Kealper> but grape vines can lie, so don't quote me
#2469 [11:17] <Z3r05t4r> a question.
#2470 [11:17] <Z3r05t4r> Multiplayer alpha server software
#2471 [11:17] <Z3r05t4r> on the homepage
#2472 [11:17] <Z3r05t4r> this just ain't right
#2473 [11:18] <Kealper> hmm?
#2474 [11:18] <mbentley> incomplete thoughts
#2475 [11:18] <Z3r05t4r> on the homepage it still says Multiplayer alpha server software
#2476 [11:18] <Z3r05t4r> but its beta server software.
#2477 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it does
#2478 [11:18] <Kealper> because jeb_ sucks at renaming lol
#2479 [11:18] <mbentley> by homepage, you mean http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2480 [11:18] <Z3r05t4r> löl.
#2481 [11:18] <Z3r05t4r> exactly.
#2482 [11:18] <Kealper> grey wanna see something that you'll hate AuBot for?
#2483 [11:19] <mistenkt> uhm. does SMP work?
#2484 [11:19] <mistenkt> has notch released beta servers?
#2485 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#2486 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2487 [11:19] <mbentley> define 'work'
#2488 [11:19] <mbentley> ;)
#2489 [11:19] <mistenkt> ok tnx
#2490 [11:19] <Kealper> !server
#2491 [11:19] <Z3r05t4r> well.
#2492 [11:19] <Kealper> has !client aswell
#2493 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#2494 [11:19] <Z3r05t4r> it says on the page Multiplayer alpha server software
#2495 [11:19] <Z3r05t4r> but its beta software
#2496 [11:19] <Kealper> but it's HEAVILY spam-controlled
#2497 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> Good
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#2499 [11:20] <mbentley> so they forgot to update one page
#2500 [11:20] <Z3r05t4r> Incredible Bullshit :D
#2501 [11:20] <Kealper> like it'll just ignore messages for 5 sec after a command is used, so it doesn't even cache the commands
#2502 [11:20] <Z3r05t4r> Hoho
#2503 [11:20] <Kealper> well...buffer i meant to say
#2504 [11:20] <Z3r05t4r> even with beta
#2505 [11:20] <Z3r05t4r> it still has the same issue
#2506 [11:20] <Z3r05t4r> xD
#2507 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> Can Aubot take over my duties here? I'd like that.
#2508 [11:20] <Z3r05t4r> as i just said: Incredible Bullshit
#2509 [11:20] <Kealper> depends, what is it that you do here? :P
#2510 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> Bring me beer and cookies
#2511 [11:20] <Z3r05t4r> kealper and vulpine i still got the Logging In forever bug :D
#2512 [11:21] <Z3r05t4r> i mean
#2513 [11:21] <Z3r05t4r> issue.
#2514 [11:21] <Kealper> i have yet to make leg modules, so no lol
#2515 [11:21] * GreyVulpine hides behind Kealper
#2515 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> Damn.
#2516 [11:21] <Kealper> Z3r05t4r: i'll give you a dollar if you can actually get beta working as intended
#2517 [11:21] <Z3r05t4r> hey
#2518 [11:21] * fogWraith hides behind GreyVulpine & Kealper
#2518 [11:21] <Z3r05t4r> it works :3
#2519 [11:21] <Z3r05t4r> my client
#2520 [11:21] <mbentley> being stuck at trying to log in forever could be an issue with the server not able to talk to the minecraft servers to verify the users
#2521 [11:21] <Z3r05t4r> on my pc at least.
#2522 [11:21] <Kealper> lies! lol
#2523 [11:22] <Z3r05t4r> lemme see.
#2524 [11:22] <Z3r05t4r> i never tried offline mode...
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#2526 [11:22] <Kealper> anywho grey, that Arkive thing...i pimpped it's code...and it's stupid fast now
#2527 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> Now make a stats page, with top tens, graphs and shiny baubles.
#2528 [11:23] <Z3r05t4r> woah woah wait:
#2529 [11:23] <Z3r05t4r> this is new :
#2530 [11:23] <Z3r05t4r> Z3r05t4r lost connection: disconnect.overflow
#2531 [11:23] <Z3r05t4r> whats that?
#2532 [11:23] <Kealper> it can chomp though a 700mb file in about 5 - 8 sec on my computers
#2533 [11:23] <Kealper> Z3r05t4r: that'd be the beta bug
#2534 [11:23] <fogWraith> Windows 7 ftw... "hey, i see you want to start spotify again, you sure you want to do that bud? i mean, im just here to protect you and... be annoying with my messages"
#2535 [11:23] <Z3r05t4r> oh it is?
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#2537 [11:23] <Z3r05t4r> so there arent any working servers now?
#2538 [11:23] * GreyVulpine stabs clippy.
#2538 [11:23] <Kealper> fogWraith: killing UAC with fire ftw
#2539 [11:23] <Kealper> oh....nvm
#2540 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> Must. You. Be. Forever. Annoying.
#2541 [11:24] <fogWraith> The journey to the control panel is annoying, can't be arsed :P
#2542 [11:24] <Kealper> i totally forgot about clippy o.o
#2543 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> The ghost of clippy lives on
#2544 [11:24] <Z3r05t4r> @GreyVulpine:
#2545 [11:24] <Z3r05t4r> YYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
#2546 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#2547 [11:24] <Z3r05t4r> :3
#2548 [11:24] <Kealper> lolwut
#2549 [11:24] <Z3r05t4r> sry had to be.
#2550 [11:25] <Kealper> owned...."Notch: I have a scary feeling the lag some people get might be leaf decay. Grraaaaahhh!!"
#2551 [11:25] <fogWraith> No shit, every time he enables it, things go downhill from there
#2552 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> Heh, whoops
#2553 [11:25] <Z3r05t4r> Indeed.
#2554 [11:25] <Z3r05t4r> Kinda.
#2555 [11:26] <Z3r05t4r> No offense :3
#2556 [11:26] <Kealper> i really don't see how having leaf decay rapes stuff...
#2557 [11:26] <Z3r05t4r> btw, i dont think its really matching, but whats that super secret thing?
#2558 [11:26] <fogWraith> Probably just nothing :P
#2559 [11:26] <Kealper> throw eggs; recieve chicken
#2560 [11:26] <Z3r05t4r> Nope.avi
#2561 [11:26] <Z3r05t4r> well
#2562 [11:26] <Z3r05t4r> i know that
#2563 [11:26] <Z3r05t4r> but thats not secret
#2564 [11:26] <Z3r05t4r> and the descriptions. woah.
#2565 [11:27] <Z3r05t4r> incredibly awesome. and secret.
#2566 [11:27] <Z3r05t4r> no not really
#2567 [11:27] <Z3r05t4r> but useful :)
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#2569 [11:28] * Kealper yawns
#2569 [11:29] <Z3r05t4r> hm.
#2570 [11:29] <Z3r05t4r> whats
#2571 [11:29] * SharcBate1 [SharcBate1@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2572 [11:29] <Z3r05t4r> where are we now.mus?
#2573 [11:29] * `` is now known as GLaDOS
#2574 [11:29] <Kealper> gerudo.mid
#2575 [11:31] <fogWraith> Oh god, found an old video on youtube that I had forgotten about... can't stop laughing
#2576 [11:31] <Kealper> no....srsly...gerudo.mid....lol http://www.unlimitedgamer.net/coverage/oot/music/z64-gerudo.mid
#2577 [11:32] * fogWraith keels over
#2577 [11:32] <fogWraith> Grey, help
#2578 [11:32] <Z3r05t4r> Nope.avi
#2579 [11:32] <Z3r05t4r> :3
#2580 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> You're on your own!
#2581 [11:32] * GreyVulpine runs
#2581 [11:33] * Kealper looks around
#2581 [11:33] <Kealper> ahh crap
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#2583 [11:34] <Kealper> lol..jellowiggler..
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#2586 [11:36] <Kealper> wow...yesterday's log was 2x larger than the other ones
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#2589 [11:36] <halluuzzka> hello, can somebody help me? im still getting error internal exception: java.net.socketexception:software caused connection abort: recv failed and game is kicking me from server :/
#2590 [11:37] <Kealper> halluuzzka: join the club
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#2592 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Ooo.. giant steam sale
#2593 [11:39] <Kealper> yea, most of their games are reduced
#2594 [11:39] <Kealper> i wonder if i can find someone to buy me Amnesia for an early present :3
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#2597 [11:40] <Kealper> wow Portal is on sale for $3.74
#2598 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#2599 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> Portal was free a little while back
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#2601 [11:40] <Kealper> i bought mine with orange box :S
#2602 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, same
#2603 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> But I made a 2nd dummy account, just to download portal again for free
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#2605 [11:41] <Kealper> :O Oddworld: Abe's Oddesee is only $2.49 right now
#2606 [11:41] <Burnskagen> Hi everybody
#2607 [11:41] <Burnskagen> Am I allowed to ask for help on setting up a server here?
#2608 [11:41] <Burnskagen> I have been having some troubles
#2609 [11:41] <Kealper> that's what we're here for
#2610 [11:42] <Burnskagen> :)
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#2612 [11:42] <Burnskagen> Well, the problem is
#2613 [11:42] <Burnskagen> I don't have a static IP and the port (25525 or whatever) is closed
#2614 [11:42] <Burnskagen> I have tried portforward.com
#2615 [11:42] <Kealper> do you have access to your router?
#2616 [11:42] <Burnskagen> Yes
#2617 [11:43] <Burnskagen> Its a speedtouch 5463 I believe
#2618 [11:43] <Burnskagen> Let me check
#2619 [11:44] <Burnskagen> What is the standard router IP?
#2620 [11:44] <Burnskagen> I forgot
#2621 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you running?
#2622 [11:45] <Burnskagen> Windows 7
#2623 [11:45] <Kealper> usually it's 192.168.1.1 to get to your router
#2624 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> start -> search bar -> cmd
#2625 [11:45] <Kealper> but it depends on the router
#2626 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> ipconfig at command prompt
#2627 [11:45] <Kealper> so....i'll let grey take it away lol
#2628 [11:45] * GreyVulpine snerks
#2628 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Default gateway is your router's ip address
#2629 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> IPv4 address is your computer's
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#2631 [11:45] * Kealper plays with Play-Doh
#2631 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Oooo.... glow in the dark?
#2632 [11:46] <Burnskagen> 10.0.0.138
#2633 [11:46] <Kealper> no, just normal
#2634 [11:46] <Kealper> Burnskagen: O.o what router do you have?
#2635 [11:46] <Burnskagen> Speedtouch
#2636 [11:46] <Burnskagen> I'm not sure about the model
#2637 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Then, I asssume 10.0.0.1 is your default gateway?
#2638 [11:46] <Burnskagen> Yes
#2639 [11:46] <mib_6rcv58> can someone guide me on how change my isp connection setting?
#2640 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> Burnskagen - Do you know if you have a combination modem/router?
#2641 [11:47] <mbentley> not sure what you mean by 'isp connection setting'
#2642 [11:47] <Burnskagen> I have a modem I think
#2643 [11:47] <Burnskagen> But I am not good with these things
#2644 [11:47] <Burnskagen> It might be a combination
#2645 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> Alright, go to your browser, type in http://10.0.0.1
#2646 [11:47] <Burnskagen> ok
#2647 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> You've probably done this before, going to port forward, right?
#2648 [11:48] <mib_6rcv58> im trying to forward my port for a server, and im on the step where i have to use my internal ip address for somthing
#2649 [11:48] <Burnskagen> I have tried
#2650 [11:48] <mib_6rcv58> yeah im on portforward
#2651 [11:48] <Burnskagen> but I can't find the settings in my router controll panel
#2652 [11:48] <Burnskagen> for port forwarding
#2653 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> 5463 you said?
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#2656 [11:49] <Burnskagen> At least it is 546 the last character I am not sure about
#2657 [11:49] <Kealper> 546 or 546v6?
#2658 [11:50] <Burnskagen> 546
#2659 [11:50] <Burnskagen> I think it was a fourth number but I am probably wrong
#2660 [11:50] <Burnskagen> I know it wanst v6 at least
#2661 [11:50] <Kealper> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Thomson-Alcatel/SpeedTouch546/Minecraft_Server.htm
#2662 [11:50] <Kealper> although
#2663 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> Then uh
#2664 [11:50] <Kealper> that page has you going to 192.168.1.1 not 10.0.0.1
#2665 [11:51] * Kealper is confused from thos
#2665 [11:51] <Kealper> this
#2666 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Along the left side
#2667 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Do you see Toolbox?
#2668 [11:51] <Burnskagen> Yeah
#2669 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Click on it
#2670 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Go to Game and application sharing
#2671 [11:51] <Burnskagen> ok
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#2673 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Did you add anything here?
#2674 [11:51] <Burnskagen> nope
#2675 [11:51] <mib_6rcv58> ok i searched for my internal address on the address bar and now im on this at&t u verse thing, but i dont see the option port forward is asking me to do?
#2676 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Okay, you'll want to add a new application Burnskagen
#2677 [11:52] <Burnskagen> ok
#2678 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Name - Minecraft
#2679 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Protocol - TCP
#2680 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> port range 25565-25565
#2681 [11:53] <thereddeh> not much of a range ;p
#2682 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> It's one port.
#2683 [11:53] <Burnskagen> hmm
#2684 [11:53] <Burnskagen> wait a second
#2685 [11:53] <Burnskagen> I clicked on add
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#2687 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> mmhmm?
#2688 [11:54] <Burnskagen> But the only options I had were to choose application from a list, which device and a checfbox called log
#2689 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#2690 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> "If the game or the application you are looking for does not exist, click here to create it
#2691 [11:55] <Burnskagen> ok, got it now :)
#2692 [11:55] <mib_6rcv58> wait hold on i think he is on a similar issue to me
#2693 [11:56] <Burnskagen> Odd
#2694 [11:56] <Burnskagen> I get "A game or application with that name already exists."
#2695 [11:56] <Burnskagen> oh wait
#2696 [11:56] <Burnskagen> I am stupid
#2697 [11:56] <Burnskagen> Manual entry of ports right?
#2698 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2699 [11:57] <Burnskagen> Here we go, I'll put in the values now
#2700 [11:57] <Burnskagen> What to put under "translate to"
#2701 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> 25565-25565
#2702 [11:57] <mib_6rcv58> nvm im lost
#2703 [11:58] <Burnskagen> Trigger protocol is TCP as well?
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#2705 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> leave the last two blank
#2706 [11:58] <Burnskagen> ok
#2707 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to make a dynamic translation rule
#2708 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> Now, that should be all set for that page
#2709 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Now you can go back to the previous page
#2710 [11:59] <Burnskagen> It gives me "Choose a different name" for some reason
#2711 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Look for the minecraft entry you just made
#2712 [11:59] <Burnskagen> should I call it MinecraftServer or something instead?
#2713 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Sure
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#2715 [11:59] <Burnskagen> Ok, what now?
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#2717 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Now that you've added a definition for Minecraftserver
#2718 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Go back to the previous page
#2719 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Look for it in the list
#2720 [12:00] <ayudame> Can some help me?
#2721 [12:00] <thereddeh> is it me or is loading levels in beta much slower than before
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#2723 [12:00] <Burnskagen> it says "No games or applications assigned" :O
#2724 [12:01] <Burnskagen> Should I do the same again?
#2725 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> Burnskagen - Are you at the Game and Application Sharing page?
#2726 [12:01] <Burnskagen> Yes
#2727 [12:01] <mistenkt> disconnect.overflow for the suck
#2728 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> At the bottom, where it has a drop down for all the assigned games and applications
#2729 [12:02] <Burnskagen> I can't see any dropdown
#2730 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Um
#2731 [12:02] <Burnskagen> But I see a list where the assigned games should be
#2732 [12:02] <Burnskagen> maybe its that
#2733 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Do you have Minecraftserver in that list?
#2734 [12:03] <Burnskagen> no
#2735 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> Or can you add it?
#2736 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> There should be an add button at the bottom
#2737 [12:03] <Burnskagen> it says "no games/applications assigned"
#2738 [12:03] <Burnskagen> it is
#2739 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> Beneath that
#2740 [12:03] <Burnskagen> Oh I understand
#2741 [12:04] <Burnskagen> Ok
#2742 [12:04] <Burnskagen> I found it
#2743 [12:04] <Burnskagen> and I have added it to the list
#2744 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Okay, did you have it going to the right device?
#2745 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> do you only have one computer on your network?
#2746 [12:04] <Burnskagen> I think so
#2747 [12:04] <Burnskagen> No I have a few
#2748 [12:04] <Burnskagen> but I'm quite sure I took mine
#2749 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Okay
#2750 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding should be done on that router now
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#2752 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> Just to make sure
#2753 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to the broadband connection menu, and click on Internet services
#2754 [12:05] <Kealper> i can confirm that even with a beta-generated map...the issues still happen
#2755 [12:05] <Burnskagen> Done
#2756 [12:05] <ayudame> greyvulpine: could u help once ur done helping the other guy?
#2757 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#2758 [12:05] <ayudame> thank u
#2759 [12:06] <Kealper> grey want some help with the load? lol
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#2761 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Burnskagen - Does the IP address of that device say start with 192.168 or 10.0?
#2762 [12:06] <Burnskagen> it starts with 85.164.
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#2764 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Alright, that should be a public ip address then
#2765 [12:07] <Burnskagen> So, can I just set up a server now? :D
#2766 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2767 [12:07] <Burnskagen> cool, I may need more help later though
#2768 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - Any help would be appreciated
#2769 [12:07] <Burnskagen> I'll stay in here
#2770 [12:08] <Kealper> fuck this fucking beta....fuck....
#2771 [12:08] <Kealper> ayudame: what was the issue you were having?
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#2773 [12:09] <ayudame> ok, so im trying to set up a port for minecraft, i already created a static IP, but now i need to do something with a virtual server or somthing like that
#2774 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Some routers call port forwarding as a virtual server.
#2775 [12:09] <Kealper> virtual server? uhh
#2776 [12:09] <Kealper> oh...
#2777 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Same concept
#2778 [12:09] <Kealper> TIL!
#2779 [12:09] <ayudame> im following portforward.com guide
#2780 [12:10] <Burnskagen> Just one fast question, what is the IP of my server? / How do I set one?
#2781 [12:10] <Burnskagen> Can I just choose anything in the server txt?
#2782 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> Burnskagen - your public ip address you just found out
#2783 [12:10] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: from your server, go to ipchicken.com. That's your server's public IP
#2784 [12:10] <Burnskagen> ok
#2785 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> No, you leave the server-ip field
#2786 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> alone
#2787 [12:11] <ayudame> how do i configure my virtual server settings thing?
#2788 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> ayudame - Did you get your computer's ip address?
#2789 [12:11] <ayudame> yeah
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#2791 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> Basically just forward port 25565/TCP to that ip address
#2792 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> If you give us a model number of that router, we could tell you more
#2793 [12:12] <ayudame> how do i do that?
#2794 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea what router you're running, there's no standardized layout for these things
#2795 [12:12] <ayudame> well i have an at&t router, and the only option for that kind was the 6800
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#2797 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Could you perhaps take a screenshot of the page?
#2798 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Upload it to imgur, or imageshack, or photobucket..
#2799 [12:13] <ayudame> ok how do i do that again?
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#2801 [12:13] <DopeGhoti> ayudame: AT&T? Does your router say '2Wire' on it? Does 'Home portal' sound familiar?
#2802 [12:14] <ayudame> it says 2 wire
#2803 [12:14] <Burnskagen> [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#2804 [12:14] <DopeGhoti> sayokay. GreyVulpine, there's a virtual 2Wire interface at shastademo.2wire.com :)
#2805 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Burnskagen - That's normal
#2806 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Ah, thanks DopeGhoti
#2807 [12:14] <thereddeh> lol just created new map and i spawned on a frigging ledge with no way down :(
#2808 [12:14] <Burnskagen> I am also getting "Unknown host" when trying to connect
#2809 [12:14] * DopeGhoti used to do support for 2wire :)
#2809 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I can't get to that page DopeGhoti
#2810 [12:15] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#2811 [12:15] <ayudame> dopeghoti i cant get on that page
#2812 [12:15] <DopeGhoti> damn, they took it down :(
#2813 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Burnskagen - What are you putting in for the multiplayer IP field?
#2814 [12:16] <Burnskagen> my ip
#2815 [12:16] <Burnskagen> 85.164.195.99
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#2817 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Try 127.0.0.1
#2818 [12:17] <Burnskagen> Outdated server D:
#2819 [12:17] <Kealper> and queue in....
#2820 [12:17] <Kealper> !server
#2821 [12:17] <Burnskagen> I can restart the server
#2822 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> ayudame - Okay, you went to Firewall -> firewall settings
#2823 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Add a new user-defined application
#2824 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Right?
#2825 [12:18] <ayudame> greyvulpine no u never told me that
#2826 [12:18] <ayudame> but i can do that right now
#2827 [12:18] <ayudame> just did , what next?
#2828 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Oh, sorry, I assumed you tried to follow the portforward.com thing
#2829 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Added minecraft to the profile name
#2830 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> or whatever you'd like to call it
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#2832 [12:18] <ayudame> ok
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#2834 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> In the port range, 25565-25565
#2835 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Leave the timeout value alone
#2836 [12:19] <ayudame> okm
#2837 [12:19] <ayudame> ok
#2838 [12:19] <mib_ig2ap3> I need help can anyone help?
#2839 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> Map to host port 25565
#2840 [12:19] <ayudame> ok
#2841 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> "add definition"
#2842 [12:20] <mib_ig2ap3> when i am starting minecraft it works but not when i am starting the games
#2843 [12:20] <jannis> if i will start minecraft Classic the pc say LoadLibrary failed with error 998
#2844 [12:20] <ayudame> ok it was successful, now what do i do?
#2845 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Sec.. this 2wire website is craptastic.
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#2847 [12:21] <DopeGhoti> you should see their call center :p
#2848 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Does the router even ask where that port forward should GO?
#2849 [12:21] <DopeGhoti> http://support.2wire.com/?page=view&article=21#4orhigherfirmware <--- may help
#2850 [12:22] <ayudame> idk
#2851 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> Oh yeah, I'm just going to port forward this port...
#2852 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> No idea where it's going to, but it's OPEN!
#2853 [12:22] <ayudame> ok dont know what that is, but ok
#2854 [12:22] <jannis> if i will start minecraft Classic the pc say LoadLibrary failed with error 998
#2855 [12:23] <jannis> can someone help me with this problem
#2856 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> Okay um, ayudame - Go back to the firewall page of your router
#2857 [12:23] <thereddeh> fuck me beta is buggy.. its worse than alpha :(
#2858 [12:23] <ayudame> aight
#2859 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> Does it have "select a computer" as one of the steps?
#2860 [12:23] <ayudame> yes
#2861 [12:24] <kontroll|x> Any resolution to the eof exceptions yet?
#2862 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Do you see your computer in that list?
#2863 [12:24] <ayudame> ye
#2864 [12:24] <ayudame> yes'
#2865 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Select that
#2866 [12:24] <ayudame> k
#2867 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Then, next step, look for your minecraft entry you just make
#2868 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> made
#2869 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Add it
#2870 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Then click "Done"
#2871 [12:24] <ayudame> k
#2872 [12:25] <ayudame> alright
#2873 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> That, should be the port forwarding you need to do
#2874 [12:25] <DopeGhoti> "It's so easy!"
#2875 [12:25] <ayudame> so now what do i do?
#2876 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> Run your server, have somebody from the outside try to connect
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#2878 [12:26] * GreyVulpine adds 2wire to his list of craptacular router firmwares.
#2878 [12:26] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/SQhzh.png
#2879 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#2880 [12:27] <Kealper> and i've got to go to sleep...i can't even think straight i'm so tired :S
#2881 [12:27] <ayudame> ok ima try to join it, u mind joinnig , my server right quick greyvulpine?
#2882 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I'm not letting beta touch my computer right now
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#2884 [12:27] <ayudame> oh ok
#2885 [12:27] <ayudame> lol
#2886 [12:27] <ayudame> so what do my friends have to put to get in my server
#2887 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> http://www.whatismyip.com/
#2888 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> That should tell you your public ip address
#2889 [12:28] <ayudame> ok i shall put that
#2890 [12:28] <thereddeh> or just type "//echo $ip" in here
#2891 [12:29] <ayudame> greyvulpine, one more question what will happen if i close the java script?
#2892 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> What java scipt?
#2893 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> script*
#2894 [12:30] <ayudame> the java thing that opened up when i runned the server.exe
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#2896 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> It'll close the server.
#2897 [12:30] <Dvonio> ey
#2898 [12:30] <ayudame> will it save?
#2899 [12:30] <Dvonio> if i want 256 more of ram
#2900 [12:30] <Dvonio> hwo can i change it in this text : java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
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#2902 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> if you don't do save-on, no
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#2904 [12:30] <Dvonio> i want it to use 256 more of ram not only 1024, can you help me GreyVulpine
#2905 [12:30] <ayudame> how do u do that?
#2906 [12:31] <Dvonio> please.
#2907 [12:31] <Burnskagen> I have a little problem
#2908 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1280M -Xms1280M -jar minecraft_server.jar noguit
#2909 [12:31] <Burnskagen> My friends is getting "Timeout error" when trying to connect
#2910 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> er
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#2912 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1280M -Xms1280M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#2913 [12:31] <Jorc> Hey, on mIRC how do I make it so I join a channel as soon as i connect?
#2914 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Jorc - tons of ways..
#2915 [12:32] <Jorc> Could you tell me?
#2916 [12:32] <Dvonio> thank you
#2917 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> ayudame - You just type in: save-on
#2918 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> It'll enable auto saving
#2919 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> Jorc - It really depends on how you want to set it up, what network.
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#2921 [12:32] <mib_9k5obe> any1 knows a good smp server with a german speaking community? or at least a high populated european server?
#2922 [12:32] <ayudame> greyvulpine: thank u thank u thanku very much
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#2924 [12:33] <Jorc> Umm how do you mean?
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#2926 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> Jorc - You can do a perform thing, that's built into mIRC already, go to tools/options/server
#2927 [12:33] <Jorc> I want it to make me join this room and #minecraft and #smp everytime I come on mIRC
#2928 [12:33] <Jorc> without me having to type /join
#2929 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.
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#2932 [12:34] <Goordon> hello guys any1 got this disconnect.overflow problem like me?
#2933 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Tools -> options -> connect -> options
#2934 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> then perform
#2935 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> add esper to the network list
#2936 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Then, in the perform box, add in /join #MineCraft
#2937 [12:34] <Jorc> Ok done that
#2938 [12:34] <Burnskagen> My frineds are getting "Connection timeout" when trying to connect
#2939 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> or whatever you want mIRC to do upon connecting
#2940 [12:35] <Jorc> Ok thanks alot :)
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#2942 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: do you see anything on your server log that looks like they're connecting?
#2943 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> or trying to?
#2944 [12:35] <Burnskagen> In the server app?
#2945 [12:35] <Burnskagen> or a document
#2946 [12:36] <Burnskagen> It's nothing in the app
#2947 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> The server should be presenting you with a log of everything that happens from the moment you start it up.
#2948 [12:36] <Burnskagen> It does, but the last thing is my connection
#2949 [12:36] <Burnskagen> nothing else unusual
#2950 [12:36] <Burnskagen> no logins from them
#2951 [12:37] <Goordon> or does anyone have serverproblems containing this error disconnect overflow since beta? xd typing slow im on smartphone .. people can connect but they usually dc after some secs since server says disconnect overflow
#2952 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> Goordon - Tons of people do
#2953 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> I'd just wait for a fix from Notch
#2954 [12:38] <Burnskagen> Maybe
#2955 [12:38] <Goordon> well that makes me happy lol thx for info im not the only one
#2956 [12:38] <Burnskagen> but the server app didn't say anything
#2957 [12:38] <Dvonio> Greyvulpine when people try to connect to my server in a old map, it refuse the connect after 2-5segs they are logged, do u know why ? or can you help me? The server runs fine before the beta, Linux.
#2958 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Dvonio - I'd just chalk it up to beta.
#2959 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> I'd wait for the bugs to get worked out from Notch until then
#2960 [12:39] <Dvonio> Ok then the solution is new map ? damn
#2961 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> Not necessarily
#2962 [12:39] <Dvonio> the other one dosnt works
#2963 [12:39] <Dvonio> it kick the people
#2964 [12:40] <Dvonio> i writte you the error sec
#2965 [12:40] <Dvonio> Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed
#2966 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I'd just wait for Notch to release a new server version...
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#2968 [12:41] <Dvonio> And in the log of the server it says Lost connection: disconnect.overflow
#2969 [12:42] <Dvonio> k, then new map till the update
#2970 [12:42] <Dvonio> ty
#2971 [12:43] <Zircon_X> I get a similar error, java.io.EOFException
#2972 [12:48] <DopeGhoti> Not terribly helpful, but my beta server is not getting the EOF and overflow errors.
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#2975 [12:49] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: if you're not seeing any messages about people connecting that means that their connect attempts aren't making it to the server. Make sure the clients have the right IP, and check your firewall and NAT settings
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#2979 [12:54] <Burnskagen> NAT?
#2980 [12:54] <Burnskagen> how?
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#2982 [12:57] <mistenkt> is there any mod to make the cows stfu ?
#2983 [12:57] <Jorc> Is the only use for reeds to make paper?
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#2985 [12:57] <mbentley> bet you could find the audio file for the cow in the jar and remove it
#2986 [12:58] <mbentley> nat = network address translation
#2987 [12:58] <Burnskagen> How do I access it on windows 7
#2988 [12:58] <mbentley> just check and make sure you have the correct port forwarded to the correct ip adress
#2989 [12:58] <Burnskagen> and what should I do
#2990 [12:58] <mbentley> that is on your router
#2991 [12:59] <Burnskagen> I did already
#2992 [12:59] <mbentley> first of all, are you running the win7 firewall?
#2993 [12:59] <Burnskagen> I have McAffe so it's probably that
#2994 [12:59] <mbentley> you need to allow incoming traffic on port 25565
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#2996 [13:00] <Burnskagen> I did so in my router
#2997 [13:00] <Burnskagen> I have to do it in my firewall too?
#2998 [13:00] <mbentley> yes
#2999 [13:00] <mbentley> if you have a firewall on your pc, you also have to do it there
#3000 [13:00] <Burnskagen> ok
#3001 [13:02] <Burnskagen> Ok, I found "Add networkconnection"
#3002 [13:02] <Burnskagen> I can choose between IPv4 and IPv6
#3003 [13:03] <Burnskagen> it's port 25564 right?
#3004 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> 25565
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#3006 [13:13] <Burnskagen> GreenVulpine, they still get that error
#3007 [13:14] <Burnskagen> *greyvulpine
#3008 [13:14] <mbentley> do you see anything in the console?
#3009 [13:14] <kontroll|x> If I hit the dark, unbreakable blocks... any point in trying to dig deeper?
#3010 [13:14] <Burnskagen> no
#3011 [13:14] <mbentley> what ip are you giving them?
#3012 [13:15] <mbentley> or if you don't wanna say, just make sure it is is your WAN ip
#3013 [13:15] <lukegb> From, say http://wimi.com
#3014 [13:15] <mbentley> you should be giving them the ip you see here >> http://www.whatismyip.org/
#3015 [13:16] <Goordon> if it begins with 192.xxxx its probably wrong lolz
#3016 [13:16] <Burnskagen> 85.164.195.99
#3017 [13:16] <Burnskagen> I did
#3018 [13:16] <ssen> Ohoho
#3019 [13:16] <ssen> play.jsp?ip=85.164.195.99&port=25565
#3020 [13:17] <ssen> do that
#3021 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> That's for classic though
#3022 [13:17] <Burnskagen> We play from the file
#3023 [13:17] <ssen> http://minecraft.net/play.jsp?ip=85.164.195.99&port=25565
#3024 [13:17] <ssen> Oh snap
#3025 [13:17] <ssen> Classic
#3026 [13:17] <ssen> Nevermind
#3027 [13:17] <mbentley> if you still do not see anything in the console, your port forwarding isn't working
#3028 [13:18] <ssen> http://www.canyouseeme.org/
#3029 [13:18] <ssen> Go there
#3030 [13:18] <ssen> type in whatever port you are opening for SMP
#3031 [13:18] <Burnskagen> should be 25565?
#3032 [13:18] <mbentley> yes
#3033 [13:18] <mbentley> unless you changed it
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#3035 [13:19] <Burnskagen> It says connection timed out
#3036 [13:19] <mbentley> then the port isn't open
#3037 [13:20] <Burnskagen> :O
#3038 [13:20] <mbentley> on the router, make sure you are entering the correct port and correct local ip address for your 'server'
#3039 [13:20] <ssen> If you have a setting for it, and your normal settings aren't working look for something like "Virtual Server"
#3040 [13:20] <ssen> Under that, if you re enter your port settings it should work
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#3042 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> Not to be a jerk, but I sometimes find myself thinking "What business does someone have deciding to run a server if ey doesn't have a handle on IP addresses and port forwarding?" :/
#3043 [13:22] <Burnskagen> To play the game with friends obviously
#3044 [13:22] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: I amend that to "...if they're having to port forward at all?"
#3045 [13:22] <Burnskagen> It isn't less fun to play just because we need help setting up
#3046 [13:22] <Burnskagen> Besides
#3047 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: Meh, I give that a pass; running behind NAT makes for a good extra security measure.
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#3050 [13:23] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: if you need NAT as a security measure, you're doing it wrong :P
#3051 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: Like I said, I'm not saying that you shouldn't run a a server; I just can't help having that thought bubble form from time to time
#3052 [13:24] <Burnskagen> Sure :)
#3053 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: Did I say need? :) I'd argue that if you're running a server on a non-POSIX OS, you're doing it wrong.
#3054 [13:24] <Burnskagen> But we have all been on my stage right
#3055 [13:24] <lukegb> Heh
#3056 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: indeed, we all started somewhere :)
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#3059 [13:25] <Burnskagen> I'll keep trying tomorrow
#3060 [13:25] <Burnskagen> I'll just play offline for now
#3061 [13:25] <Burnskagen> bye bye
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#3063 [13:25] <Zircon_X> Diamond sword: Worth making?
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#3065 [13:26] <DopeGhoti> Zircon_X: not once you have a bow IMO
#3066 [13:26] <DopeGhoti> (and also arrows)
#3067 [13:26] <Zircon_X> :D I've found a great mine
#3068 [13:26] <Zircon_X> gold, diamonds, iron, flint, coal, redstone
#3069 [13:26] <mbentley> oh port forwarding... good times
#3070 [13:26] <Zircon_X> hellz yeah
#3071 [13:26] <DopeGhoti> nice
#3072 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> (I didn't mean to scare Burnskagen off :| )
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#3074 [13:27] <Zircon_X> THat's what I love about minecraft: It's hit and miss a lot of the time, but that's jsut the nature of a randomly generated game
#3075 [13:27] <Zircon_X> then you start mining this one world and BAM everything you need
#3076 [13:27] <Zircon_X> Also I've got enough stone to make a golem
#3077 [13:28] <Zircon_X> nay, an army of golems
#3078 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> heh, I've done most of my playing in one world that started pre-biome
#3079 [13:28] <mbentley> heh true. i spent like 4 hours looking for one diamond when someone else can find 20 in 5 minutes
#3080 [13:28] <Zircon_X> pre-biome?
#3081 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> let me put a map up real quick :)
#3082 [13:28] <mbentley> before biome support
#3083 [13:28] <Zircon_X> Minecraft: Endless adventure
#3084 [13:28] <Zircon_X> OKay is diamond armor worth making?
#3085 [13:28] <Zircon_X> (if you can even make that)
#3086 [13:28] <mbentley> yeah you can
#3087 [13:29] <mbentley> depends on how many diamonds you have
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#3089 [13:29] <mbentley> it's all personal choice
#3090 [13:29] <Zircon_X> I've got seven
#3091 [13:29] <Zircon_X> I can make one hell of a pair of pants
#3092 [13:29] <mbentley> i would go with weapons first imo
#3093 [13:29] <Zircon_X> mkay
#3094 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> heh, I still just use leather armor; most of my irson has gone to tracks.
#3095 [13:29] <mbentley> takes a lot of diamond for a full suit
#3096 [13:29] <Zircon_X> time to hunt spiders
#3097 [13:30] <Zircon_X> how dumb is going out at night and killing things
#3098 [13:30] <mbentley> depends on if you want what they give you
#3099 [13:30] <Zircon_X> Well I do need arrow/feathers/string so
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#3115 [13:53] <ZerOmega> question
#3116 [13:53] <mbentley> answer
#3117 [13:53] <ZerOmega> a really silly-willy question
#3118 [13:53] <ZerOmega> when I create a server
#3119 [13:54] <ZerOmega> how do I prevent it from disappearing when I leave?
#3120 [13:54] <Goordon> oO
#3121 [13:54] <mbentley> what?
#3122 [13:54] <ZerOmega> will it be there after I log out?
#3123 [13:54] <MistarC> go into server console
#3124 [13:54] <MistarC> type: save-all
#3125 [13:54] <ZerOmega> ah
#3126 [13:54] <MistarC> :D
#3127 [13:54] <ZerOmega> thank you, kind sit
#3128 [13:54] <ZerOmega> *sir
#3129 [13:54] <MistarC> merry christmas
#3130 [13:54] <ZerOmega> to you too :)
#3131 [13:54] <mbentley> should save it if you do a 'stop' command as well
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#3135 [14:00] <cardboardphone> its so darn hard to find a server to play on :/
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#3137 [14:01] <cardboardphone> was there another update recently because all connections are timing out
#3138 [14:02] <thereddeh> gahh fucking cold :( why did we evolve and stop growing furrr :(
#3139 [14:03] <mbentley> i can login to my server just fine
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#3143 [14:03] <cardboardphone> mbentley: is it public?
#3144 [14:03] <mbentley> yes
#3145 [14:03] <cardboardphone> im looking for a nongrief where i can build sweet mines and semi-sweet buildings
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#3149 [14:06] <cardboardphone> hey found one
#3150 [14:06] <mbentley> yeah, good place to check would be the server list on the forums
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#3152 [14:07] <cardboardphone> im checking it now thanks
#3153 [14:07] <cardboardphone> first few have been false advertising :P
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#3155 [14:07] <Epiqke> hi
#3156 [14:07] <mbentley> ah
#3157 [14:07] <Epiqke> i cant connect to my smp server with my account but when i try with a friend's account it works
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#3159 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> are you banned?
#3160 [14:07] <Epiqke> no
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#3162 [14:08] <mbentley> does it give you any sort of output?
#3163 [14:08] <Epiqke> protocol error
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#3165 [14:09] <Epiqke> no ideas where it come from x)
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#3167 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> Are the clients the same version? What version is the server?
#3168 [14:09] <Epiqke> same version yes and 1.0.2 for the serve
#3169 [14:09] <Epiqke> r
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#3171 [14:11] <Epiqke> i dont know why my friend's account works and not mine
#3172 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> can you log in with your account at minecraft.net?
#3173 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> or other servers?
#3174 [14:11] <Epiqke> yes i can for minecraft.net and i dont know where to find other serv adress
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#3177 [14:13] <mbentley> to find other servers... http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
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#3179 [14:14] <mbentley> 75.140.101.239 works for me
#3180 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> Then the problem is almost definitely on the server's end.
#3181 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> the server op may need to delete your datfile.
#3182 [14:14] <Epiqke> i can connect to other servers
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#3186 [14:18] <Guest58386> Hello evrybody. If i wan't to join our Server I get the error: Internal exception: java.io.EOFException
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#3188 [14:18] <Burnskagen> I get "Maybe another app is running on that port ect." when connecting to my own
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#3191 [14:20] <Guest58386> and sometimes i get the error: java.net.SicketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed
#3192 [14:20] <Guest58386> and sometimes i get the error: java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed
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#3194 [14:21] <lemon-rev> update with minecraft this morning aussie time, new things or fixed ?
#3195 [14:21] <Burnskagen> What ip should I use to connect to myself?
#3196 [14:21] <mbentley> Burnskagen: are you running the server on the same PC as the client?
#3197 [14:22] <Burnskagen> yes
#3198 [14:22] <mbentley> if so, 127.0.0.1 or localhost
#3199 [14:22] <Corralx> 127.0.0.1
#3200 [14:22] <Burnskagen> ok thanks
#3201 [14:22] <Guest58386> has anyone a issue for me?^^
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#3203 [14:22] <Burnskagen> Yeah
#3204 [14:22] <Burnskagen> ^_^
#3205 [14:22] <Burnskagen> I have tried a lot of things
#3206 [14:22] <Burnskagen> and Greyvulpine even helped me
#3207 [14:23] <Burnskagen> but I have yet another problem
#3208 [14:23] <lemon-rev> beta 1.02 anyone know the changes ?
#3209 [14:23] <Guest58386> but nobody is anwsering me
#3210 [14:23] <Corralx> fixed OS X problem on startup
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#3212 [14:23] <Cyber> hello
#3213 [14:23] <lemon-rev> k
#3214 [14:24] <Corralx> Guest, nearly everyone has the same problem, just wait for the next patch
#3215 [14:24] <mbentley> http://tinyurl.com/37kea89
#3216 [14:24] <mbentley> ^^ google link to the search site:minecraftforum.net "recv failed"
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#3218 [14:25] <Burnskagen> I get an error when connecting to my server
#3219 [14:25] <Burnskagen> but not when I dont set an IP in the config¨
#3220 [14:25] <Cyber> if i buy this game, do i also get the full done and released version too when it comes out?
#3221 [14:25] <mbentley> Burnskagen: what are you setting the IP address to?
#3222 [14:25] <Burnskagen> The error I get is "Maybe another app is running on the port?"
#3223 [14:25] <Burnskagen> my own
#3224 [14:25] <mbentley> you need to set it to the local ip, not the WAN ip
#3225 [14:26] <Burnskagen> ah
#3226 [14:26] <Burnskagen> ok
#3227 [14:26] <Burnskagen> ^_^
#3228 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> no, you don't want to set any IP in the server.properties
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#3230 [14:26] <Cyber> if i buy this game, do i also get the full done and released version too when it comes out?
#3231 [14:26] <Burnskagen> not?
#3232 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> unless you only want LAN or WAN connections, but not both
#3233 [14:26] <mbentley> you only need to set one if you have multiple interfaces
#3234 [14:26] <Burnskagen> Cyber: you do
#3235 [14:26] <Burnskagen> so I set 127.0.0.1?
#3236 [14:26] <mbentley> no
#3237 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> Cyber: yes, you get the current beta, all future Betas, and the final release.
#3238 [14:26] <Cyber> ah ok thank you
#3239 [14:26] <Burnskagen> I set nothing?
#3240 [14:27] <Cyber> awesome
#3241 [14:27] <mbentley> right, that should work just fine
#3242 [14:27] <Cyber> Thanx again
#3243 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> Cyber: but nothing beyond that besides bug patches, no "expansion packs" for want of a better term
#3244 [14:27] <mbentley> or set it to your local IP
#3245 [14:27] <Burnskagen> For other people too?
#3246 [14:27] <mbentley> by your local ip, i mean the ip address of your pc, not 127.0.0.1
#3247 [14:27] <Cyber> thats understandable
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#3249 [14:27] <Burnskagen> I think I'll just set it to nothing if that has the same effect
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#3253 [14:33] <Alkenix> plz tell me, how to fix "connection.overflow" in server..^.-
#3254 [14:34] <mbentley> there is no fix
#3255 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> Wait for Notch to release a bug fix for it
#3256 [14:34] <Alkenix> w8? ... x.x
#3257 [14:34] <mbentley> yes w-a-i-t
#3258 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> Unless you know java, and can decompile his work, fix whatever's wrong, and play it.
#3259 [14:37] <Burnskagen> Is minecraft open scource or is it encrypted?
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#3261 [14:37] <mbentley> it is closed source
#3262 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> It's compiled, obfuscated java code
#3263 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> People have attempted to decompile it to do third party mods.
#3264 [14:38] <mistenkt> is there any way to make a cart pause for a few seconds then continue on a track ?
#3265 [14:38] <Burnskagen> I think minecraft should be more flexible
#3266 [14:38] <Burnskagen> add an item that can keep script commands or something
#3267 [14:39] <Burnskagen> allow for even more cutsomization
#3268 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> There's a good group of modders for minecraft that have done just that
#3269 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> But Notch has also an API in the pipeline for minecraft as well, down the line
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#3281 [14:53] <edahl> hi! i've heard that supposedly, minecraft runs a lot slower after the update. anybody know if this is true?
#3282 [14:53] <edahl> it lags on my computer, but i haven't tried pre-beta
#3283 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> mistenkt: yes, there is.
#3284 [14:54] <mbentley> yes, it is known to be pretty slow
#3285 [14:55] <edahl> hmmh
#3286 [14:55] <edahl> my computer is somewhat sad about that
#3287 [14:55] <mbentley> i've seen reports of fps being cut in half
#3288 [14:55] <edahl> know if there's a fix?
#3289 [14:55] <mbentley> they haven't released any fixes yet today
#3290 [14:56] <edahl> hopefully they're aware of it
#3291 [14:56] <mbentley> they are
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#3301 [15:08] <Tede3> Hello
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#3306 [15:12] <Burnskagen> How do I install a mod on my server?
#3307 [15:12] <Burnskagen> Or is thaat illegal here?
#3308 [15:12] <mbentley> go to the forums, read up on whatever mod you want to use
#3309 [15:12] <mbentley> they should have instructions
#3310 [15:13] <Burnskagen> ok
#3311 [15:15] <edahl> yeah it's def. the beta-thing. running the "classic" one
#3312 [15:15] <edahl> and it's running fine and dandy
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#3314 [15:19] <Zircon_X> :D Just paved a 30x30 base for my tower
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#3316 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> looks like there may not be a bugfix release today :/
#3317 [15:22] <edahl> :(
#3318 [15:22] <Corralx> http://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/17307547690078208
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#3320 [15:25] <edahl> oh, such a long time, tomorrow!
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#3336 [15:42] <Burnskagen> java.lang.verifyerror
#3337 [15:42] <Burnskagen> is that the "just wait" thing?
#3338 [15:42] <Burnskagen> or can it be fixed?
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#3340 [15:44] <Zircon_X> I have a slight problem
#3341 [15:45] <Zircon_X> I put stone slabs on the foundation for my tower, but now when I place the stone blocks there's a gap
#3342 [15:45] <Burnskagen> But can java.lang.verifyerror be fixed?
#3343 [15:45] <thereddeh> #minecraftcomforting
#3344 [15:45] <Zircon_X> how do I fix this?
#3345 [15:45] <Burnskagen> or is it just to wait?
#3346 [15:45] <Zircon_X> Burnskagen: Waaaait
#3347 [15:45] <Burnskagen> I talked first dude
#3348 [15:45] <thereddeh> lol
#3349 [15:45] <Zircon_X> I mean just wait
#3350 [15:45] <Zircon_X> for the fix
#3351 [15:45] <Burnskagen> ^_^
#3352 [15:45] <Burnskagen> oh
#3353 [15:46] <Zircon_X> ...yeah
#3354 [15:46] <thereddeh> now now kids
#3355 [15:46] <Burnskagen> XD
#3356 [15:46] <Zircon_X> lol I don't think there's really a 'help me plz' queue
#3357 [15:46] <Burnskagen> I know
#3358 [15:46] <Burnskagen> but I thought you was like "meh first!"
#3359 [15:46] <thereddeh> acturlly there is, you have to type !number to get a number
#3360 [15:46] <Burnskagen> !number
#3361 [15:46] <Burnskagen> XD
#3362 [15:46] <Burnskagen> Had to try
#3363 [15:46] <thereddeh> ;p
#3364 [15:47] <thereddeh> but first u need to queue to get one
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#3368 [15:52] <LAWLandMine> I'm extremely new to the game and running a server for the game. I was wondering if Beta has broke SMP or not. I've heard multiple things regarding this. A friend and I want to run a small server on my computer for just the two of us to create our own world in SMP. Is this going to be possible or do I have to wait for a patch from Notch?
#3369 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> LAWLandMine: Many people are having problems, but others, like myself, have Beta servers that are running just fine.
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#3371 [15:53] <LAWLandMine> Okay, thank you very much. I to have heard of some people running servers perfectly fine and others complaining about bugs.
#3372 [15:54] <mib_td8rcb> Speaking of servers could some one help me out? I'm trying to host a beta server and it seems my friend cannot connect to it
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#3374 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> I have yet to see any commonalities that effectively predict the problems :/
#3375 [15:54] <Zw> The owerflow disconnecting users, is there a way to solve that?
#3376 [15:54] <mib_td8rcb> Yesterday it was working fine he was able to but now he cant
#3377 [15:55] <Zircon_X> mib a lot of peopel are ahving that problem
#3378 [15:55] <Zircon_X> is eh getting a java exception upon connecting?
#3379 [15:55] <phodeaux> my research with 5-7 players shows the following - at the startup, it sucks up memory and CPU (default settings go to 1GB main, 1.2GB virtual on a linux box) and the CPU jumps to 100% for a while. Then it falls back and sits between 20-30% cpu.
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#3381 [15:55] <phodeaux> so 4GB in the box did work when it was on a big datalink.
#3382 [15:56] <phodeaux> going into a open port on a home based server seem to have more of the connect issues, so I suspect that there's more bandwidth (not measured).
#3383 [15:56] <phodeaux> just passing on what I found.
#3384 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> hmm. My server also has 4GB of RAM and a healthy swapspace for spillover
#3385 [15:56] <phodeaux> the update this morning seemed to work smoother though.
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#3387 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> ..there was an update this morning?
#3388 [15:56] <phodeaux> client side....
#3389 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> I didn't see any.. or was it cl.. oh
#3390 [15:57] <phodeaux> or at least mine did when I jumped b4 work.
#3391 [15:57] <phodeaux> I have 2x 4GB systems, one in a data center, the other at home with hole poked in firewall.
#3392 [15:57] <phodeaux> data center box now working well.
#3393 [15:58] <phodeaux> same setup at home not so good. Fails with direct connects and then sometimes brings down the machine.
#3394 [15:58] <phodeaux> not sure why... Bad simm...
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#3398 [16:02] <Mjiig> quick question, on a linux system, does minecraft store any files in anywhere other than ~/.minecraft?
#3399 [16:02] <phodeaux> hmm, by default doesn't it store them in ./world....
#3400 [16:03] <Mjiig> phodeaux: in what dir is ./world?
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#3411 [16:16] <lunarblu> Hello, on the minecraftwiki it say that "If the "F" key is rapidly pressed, everything in the map will become invisible except fire." Is this real because it not working on my mac.
#3412 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> That just toggles fog/render distance
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#3416 [16:20] <aetherian> hello
#3417 [16:20] <lunarblu> GreyVulpine, Thank you
#3418 [16:21] <edahl> anyone got the previous release of minecraft laying around?
#3419 [16:21] <lunarblu> would of been a cool "feature"
#3420 [16:21] <edahl> can't play the beta with all the lag :-(
#3421 [16:21] <LG_Legacy> Turn your graphics to fast.
#3422 [16:21] <edahl> doesn't help
#3423 [16:21] <lunarblu> edahl, I read that there is a decaying leaf issue.
#3424 [16:22] <LG_Legacy> Strange.
#3425 [16:22] <edahl> i heard so as well
#3426 [16:22] <LG_Legacy> It helped for me.
#3427 [16:22] <aetherian> I like the decaying leaves feature
#3428 [16:22] <LG_Legacy> I turned my graphics to fast and suddenly i'm lagless.
#3429 [16:22] <edahl> hmmh.
#3430 [16:22] <edahl> i'll try again
#3431 [16:22] <edahl> the classic is fine
#3432 [16:22] <lunarblu> edahl, did you just get updated/
#3433 [16:22] <edahl> and i think multiplayer may be fine-ish as well
#3434 [16:22] <lunarblu> That was suppose to end with a ?
#3435 [16:23] <edahl> yeah, i just updated. or, i didn't play before beta
#3436 [16:24] <lunarblu> My best guess, which I think happened to me
#3437 [16:24] <lunarblu> When I updated all my trees that needed the leaf to decay did all at once
#3438 [16:25] <lunarblu> So it lagged my game as well, but after 1 sundown it was all better
#3439 [16:25] <edahl> perhuaps
#3440 [16:25] <lunarblu> it does lag again when you kill astump
#3441 [16:25] <edahl> but i dun think so
#3442 [16:25] <edahl> a stump?
#3443 [16:26] <lunarblu> I mean tree
#3444 [16:26] <lunarblu> like I said best guess
#3445 [16:26] <edahl> yeahe
#3446 [16:26] <edahl> perhaps
#3447 [16:27] <lunarblu> how long did you play for after you updated to beta?
#3448 [16:27] <edahl> s there a way to turn leaf decay off? or yeah, get an older version of the game
#3449 [16:27] <edahl> a night or three
#3450 [16:27] <edahl> it lagged even after a day
#3451 [16:27] <edahl> but then again, i chopped wood
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#3453 [16:29] <mib_ym1ckp> I need some help
#3454 [16:30] <mib_ym1ckp> My friend just updated java and now cant start up minecraft in browes or offline
#3455 [16:31] <mib_ym1ckp> Any one able to help me?
#3456 [16:32] <lunarblu> mib_ym1ckp, Can he rool back?
#3457 [16:32] <mbentley> need some more info
#3458 [16:32] <mbentley> like what exactly happens
#3459 [16:32] <lunarblu> roll
#3460 [16:33] <mib_ym1ckp> What do you mean roll back and When he trys to start it up it says java security warnning
#3461 [16:33] <mbentley> hit no
#3462 [16:33] <mbentley> instead of yes
#3463 [16:34] <mib_ym1ckp> It wont let him
#3464 [16:34] <mbentley> make sure you read the question it is asking
#3465 [16:34] <mbentley> close the browser completely, open it back up
#3466 [16:35] <mib_ym1ckp> He has started the browser back up and it keeps saying the same thing when he tries to play minecraft
#3467 [16:36] <mbentley> need to know what it exactly says
#3468 [16:36] <mib_ym1ckp> kk hold on going to get a screen shot of it
#3469 [16:36] <mbentley> k
#3470 [16:37] <mib_ym1ckp> Also When he tries to start it up offline off the client dl it wont start at all
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#3472 [16:39] <mib_ym1ckp> Sry this is taking so long his skype is acting up
#3473 [16:39] <mbentley> no problem. just riding my minecart system :)
#3474 [16:43] <mib_ym1ckp> KK got the screen shots let me get them on here
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#3476 [16:45] <MarserBlood> i see there is now beta 1.2, am i right?
#3477 [16:45] <mbentley> 1.0.2
#3478 [16:45] <MarserBlood> yeah
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#3480 [16:46] <MarserBlood> but that doesnt fix the disconnect.overflow problems on SMP right?
#3481 [16:46] <ArmEagle> hmpf, beta 1.0.2 but no patch notes
#3482 [16:47] <mbentley> right
#3483 [16:47] <mib_ym1ckp> I think the onlything it fixed was the inv bug that was around
#3484 [16:47] <MarserBlood> the bug when you died and everything got duped?
#3485 [16:48] <mib_ym1ckp> Not that one the one where
#3486 [16:48] <mib_ym1ckp> when you where at a chest
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#3488 [16:48] <L1ght> Hello
#3489 [16:48] <mib_ym1ckp> you couldnt do anythign with the last 2 rows af stuff
#3490 [16:48] <L1ght> I have a big issue
#3491 [16:49] <mib_ym1ckp> Ok mbently this is the thing he sees
#3492 [16:49] <mib_ym1ckp> http://s893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/sketch2486/?action=view¤t=minecrafterror1.png
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#3494 [16:49] <mib_ym1ckp> Whats the problem L1ght
#3495 [16:50] <mbentley> odd
#3496 [16:50] <mbentley> it definitely isn't showing that window correctly. he might try to press alt + N there
#3497 [16:51] <mbentley> if that is the dialog box i think it is, then it will choose 'no'
#3498 [16:51] <MarserBlood> but can i run an older version of SMP that does work?
#3499 [16:51] <mib_ym1ckp> When he tries to stretch it out to see wats on it this happens
#3500 [16:52] <L1ght> A friend of me created his own decicated server and it was all ok , now after beta ill try to connect to this server , which is already updatet to beats staus , but then i disconnect after some seconds and i there is the message in the admin tool
#3501 [16:52] <L1ght> lost connection.overflow
#3502 [16:52] <L1ght> can someone help me?
#3503 [16:52] <L1ght> btw srry for my bad englisbh
#3504 [16:52] <MarserBlood> i have the same problem
#3505 [16:52] <mbentley> L1ght: that is a common issue at the moment
#3506 [16:52] <mib_ym1ckp> http://s893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/sketch2486/?action=view¤t=minecrafterror2.png
#3507 [16:52] <MarserBlood> its some sort of bug from the game
#3508 [16:52] <L1ght> damn
#3509 [16:52] <MarserBlood> cant be helped atm
#3510 [16:52] <L1ght> so i have to wait?
#3511 [16:52] <L1ght> ok
#3512 [16:52] <L1ght> ty
#3513 [16:52] <MarserBlood> yeah
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#3515 [16:53] <mib_ym1ckp> So just tell him to click alt+n?
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#3517 [16:54] <mbentley> yes, press alt + N
#3518 [16:54] <mbentley> or if he has another browser, try that instead of IE
#3519 [16:54] <mib_ym1ckp> I will tell him now and see wat happens
#3520 [16:54] <mib_ym1ckp> Same thing happens in firefox
#3521 [16:55] <mbentley> hmm, in that case, i would suggest uninstalling java and reinstalling
#3522 [16:55] <mbentley> he can get it from here http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com
#3523 [16:55] <MarserBlood> but i cant play an older version of smp so that people can join?
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#3526 [16:56] <mib_ym1ckp> kk
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#3528 [16:57] <mbentley> it most definitely shouldn't be doing what it is
#3529 [16:58] <mib_ym1ckp> Yeah it only started happening after he updated java
#3530 [17:00] <mib_ym1ckp> Nothing happens when he presses alt+n
#3531 [17:00] <mbentley> yeah, would reinstall java
#3532 [17:00] <mib_ym1ckp> kk
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#3539 [17:06] <AnthroHuskey> Hey so i dug myself down deep and came across a block that looks like an iron ore block but the speckles are deep red what is that?
#3540 [17:06] <Zircon_X> Redstone
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#3542 [17:06] <AnthroHuskey> can it be mined with an iron pick?
#3543 [17:06] <jack_> HELP MEEE
#3544 [17:07] <Zircon_X> Yes
#3545 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3546 [17:07] <Zircon_X> That's what you should use
#3547 [17:07] <jack_> why must beta crash so much
#3548 [17:07] <AnthroHuskey> awesome thanks
#3549 [17:07] <Zircon_X> Tip: IN case you don't know already
#3550 [17:07] <Zircon_X> use a stone pick for stone and iron for special materials
#3551 [17:07] <AnthroHuskey> so iron for everything else?
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#3553 [17:07] <Zircon_X> Yeah
#3554 [17:07] <AnthroHuskey> i just found gold as well
#3555 [17:07] <Zircon_X> other iron/gold/diamond/redstone
#3556 [17:08] <Zircon_X> actually use stone on iron too
#3557 [17:08] <AnthroHuskey> what about obsidian?
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#3559 [17:08] <Zircon_X> Stone picks = stone, iron. Iron picks = everything else
#3560 [17:08] <MarserBlood> use diamond
#3561 [17:08] <AnthroHuskey> kk
#3562 [17:08] <MarserBlood> but even with diamond it takes 15sec to cut down
#3563 [17:09] <AnthroHuskey> damn
#3564 [17:09] <AnthroHuskey> and making obsidian is as easy as pouring water onto lava right?
#3565 [17:09] <MarserBlood> yeah
#3566 [17:09] <AnthroHuskey> awesome the world i generated had a pool of lava just sitting in a medow
#3567 [17:10] <AnthroHuskey> burned the whole forest down but still very convenent
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#3569 [17:11] <aetherian> haha
#3570 [17:11] <aetherian> nice
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#3574 [17:16] <dgguidryjr> hi, is anyone having trouble with sound on the beta?
#3575 [17:16] <dgguidryjr> every time i try to turn the sound on in the client, it crashes
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#3578 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> that sounds.. extreme.
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#3581 [17:19] <dgguidryjr> is anyone else having this problem?
#3582 [17:19] <the_late_man> argh
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#3585 [17:20] <the_late_man> anyone else notice that 1.0_01 looks like a face?
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#3587 [17:20] <dgguidryjr> is there some obvious fix that i just haven't googled hard enough for or does nobody know?
#3588 [17:21] <Mikau1> .
#3589 [17:21] <Zircon_X> I think I'll join the suicide cult
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#3592 [17:22] <Zircon_X> dgguidryjr: Just wait...Notch is fixing things
#3593 [17:22] <Zircon_X> :D
#3594 [17:22] <Zircon_X> It's only a one day old beta
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#3598 [17:23] <edahl> i was looking forward to having all the fun in minecraft today! d'oh! weird that nobody's managed to make a fix
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#3601 [17:24] <the_late_man> aahh
#3602 [17:24] <the_late_man> hey whoever's in charge here
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#3604 [17:24] <the_late_man> the big red letters
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#3607 [17:24] <the_late_man> about not talking about mods
#3608 [17:24] <the_late_man> it's kind of chunky
#3609 [17:24] <the_late_man> so the letters kinda mush together
#3610 [17:25] <AnthroHuskey> they look fine to me
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#3614 [17:28] <MarserBlood> i have a question, can creep spawn on glass?
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#3619 [17:29] <MarserBlood> because that would be lame, cause i have a gigantic glass pyramid, but i cant place torches on it
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#3628 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> MarserBlood: nothing can spawn on glass.
#3629 [17:35] <Cr0wzah> guise
#3630 [17:35] <Cr0wzah> I have an issue with my client
#3631 [17:35] <Cr0wzah> anybody care to help?
#3632 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> could you be more.. specific?
#3633 [17:35] <aftoktonian> depends on the question
#3634 [17:35] <Cr0wzah> Each time I reboot my computer, I have to reinstall my video drivers.
#3635 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> that's.. not really a client question.
#3636 [17:35] <aftoktonian> hehehe
#3637 [17:35] <Cr0wzah> Otherwise, the client downloads packages, and crashes with an unspecific error message
#3638 [17:36] <aftoktonian> that's fail
#3639 [17:36] <Cr0wzah> thank you
#3640 [17:36] <aftoktonian> hehehe
#3641 [17:36] <aftoktonian> you're welcome
#3642 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> sounds like something's jumped the rails with your operating system
#3643 [17:36] <Cr0wzah> well yeah, but I don't know what. And nobody's been able to answer.
#3644 [17:36] <Cr0wzah> It's a pain to have to reinstall drivers each time I wanna play
#3645 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> you could try completely removing your video drivers, rebooting into safe mode, clearing out any cruft left over, and _then_ reinstalling the drivers.
#3646 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> failing that, well, go to an OS-is-broke-please-help channel
#3647 [17:37] <AnthroHuskey> lol
#3648 [17:37] <Cr0wzah> and I can't really see what's wrong. I mean, the only logical explanation I find is that the drivers somehow fuck up when I turn the pc off
#3649 [17:37] <Cr0wzah> or on
#3650 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> otherwise coming here for help is like going to a mechanic about a loose gearshift after you wrap your car around a telephone pole
#3651 [17:38] <AnthroHuskey> by ay chance does me being enar redstone mean im close to finding diamond?
#3652 [17:38] <Cr0wzah> funny.. very funny. And completely unhelpful. thanks.
#3653 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> AnthroHuskey: yes, but only because you're near the right depth
#3654 [17:38] <Cr0wzah> nope, AnthroHuskey.
#3655 [17:38] <Cr0wzah> Redstone doesn't only appear around 10
#3656 [17:38] <AnthroHuskey> so should i keep digging downward?
#3657 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> Cr0wzah: I'm not trying to be a dick, but really, if your OS is not well, it's not an issue iwth Minecraft itself
#3658 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> AnthroHuskey: DIamond only appears in the few strata directly above the Adminium layer
#3659 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> redstone slightly above that
#3660 [17:39] <AnthroHuskey> i agree coming here for os help isnt gonan get you anywhere
#3661 [17:39] <Cr0wzah> Myeah. I've considered PURCHASING windows 7 LEGALLY and installing it.
#3662 [17:39] <MarserBlood> what>>>>
#3663 [17:39] <MarserBlood> never do that!
#3664 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> Cr0wzah: you could also to with a non-crappy OS.
#3665 [17:39] <aftoktonian> :O
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#3667 [17:39] <AnthroHuskey> normaly that would be a good diea and thanks guys so i guess i should be close
#3668 [17:39] <aftoktonian> get linux :D
#3669 [17:39] <Cr0wzah> oh god, linuxfag? :P
#3670 [17:39] <Cr0wzah> XD
#3671 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> Did I say Linux?
#3672 [17:40] <Cr0wzah> linux is like masturbating with a cheese grater.
#3673 [17:40] <MarserBlood> no, illigal shit fag ;)
#3674 [17:40] <aftoktonian> no
#3675 [17:40] <Cr0wzah> yes
#3676 [17:40] <aftoktonian> windows vista is
#3677 [17:40] <Cr0wzah> nnnno
#3678 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> For all you know I could have been talking about Windows XP.
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#3680 [17:40] <Cr0wzah> You could, but service is discontinued
#3681 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> Eitehr way, I don't see how one's OS choice reflects upon one's sexual preferance.
#3682 [17:40] <Cr0wzah> so it's a dying OS, no?
#3683 [17:40] <AnthroHuskey> guys every OS sucks
#3684 [17:40] <aftoktonian> I'm on vista, and it's like scratching my back with a rusty chainsaw.
#3685 [17:41] <MarserBlood> i still have windows xp
#3686 [17:41] <Cr0wzah> it doesn't. And I didn't claim people like it
#3687 [17:41] <Cr0wzah> well, I have a pretty kick ass pc, and I enjoy vista
#3688 [17:41] <MarserBlood> still doing wel
#3689 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> aftoktonian: 7 is Vista with a partial suckectomy
#3690 [17:41] <Miclee> `` GreyVulpine LG_Legacy - You guys still need to link http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang in the topic.
#3691 [17:41] <aftoktonian> can't wait for windows 8
#3692 [17:41] <aftoktonian> when we move to the cloud
#3693 [17:41] <LG_Legacy> I thought i did
#3694 [17:41] <Cr0wzah> chrome OS is the way to go
#3695 [17:41] <MarserBlood> windows 8?:P
#3696 [17:41] <Cr0wzah> there WILL be a proper web app for minecraft
#3697 [17:41] <aftoktonian> yeah
#3698 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> I thought you didn't like Linux, Cr0wzah?
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#3700 [17:41] <Cr0wzah> haha, nice one
#3701 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> ChromeOS _is Linux_.
#3702 [17:41] <aftoktonian> I know some about windows 8
#3703 [17:42] <AnthroHuskey> hells yea myy comps 3 years old and ims till running home premium damn well
#3704 [17:42] * GreyVulpine mrahs
#3704 [17:42] <Cr0wzah> proper, but with ChromeOS you don't have to trawl your way through books of text to install simple programs
#3705 [17:42] <aftoktonian> good article in maximumpc
#3706 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> erm
#3707 [17:42] <AnthroHuskey> i guess im gonna have to say it
#3708 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> you don't have to do that in Linux either. But we digress from the topic.
#3709 [17:42] <Cr0wzah> I get the whole moral superiority thing about running a community made OS, but jesus, compiling your own programs? I just don't get the point
#3710 [17:42] <AnthroHuskey> this si a minecrafthelp channel not an OS discussion board
#3711 [17:43] <Cr0wzah> Fine
#3712 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> Fix your OS, and MC might start playing nice.
#3713 [17:43] <aftoktonian> grevulpine
#3714 [17:43] <Cr0wzah> It does when I reinstall VGAdrivers, but it's just a bit annoying... :P
#3715 [17:43] <MarserBlood> haha
#3716 [17:43] <aftoktonian> what did you add to the topic?
#3717 [17:43] <Cr0wzah> Thanks anyways
#3718 [17:43] <MarserBlood> VGA, you still have VGA?
#3719 [17:43] <AnthroHuskey> wouldnt you agree grey?
#3720 [17:43] <MarserBlood> hdmi ftw:P
#3721 [17:43] <Cr0wzah> it's called vga. but whatever.
#3722 [17:44] <Cr0wzah> I use DVI-D
#3723 [17:44] <AnthroHuskey> im running a radeon
#3724 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> HDMI is overrated.
#3725 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> it'd DVI with DRM.
#3726 [17:44] <Cr0wzah> True, Dope
#3727 [17:44] <aftoktonian> aaahhhhhh
#3728 [17:44] <Cr0wzah> but it's a benefit with added sound transfer
#3729 [17:44] <aftoktonian> wait wtf
#3730 [17:45] <Cr0wzah> Does HDMI support full surround?
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#3733 [17:46] <MarserBlood> i have another question: i have two monitors (28" & 19") but i still dont have enough space to run minecraft while having everything else open... what should i do?
#3734 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> Buy a third
#3735 [17:47] <Cr0wzah> get pills for your ADD :P
#3736 [17:47] <Kealper> Cr0wzah: 7.1
#3737 [17:47] <Cr0wzah> thanks, +Kealper
#3738 [17:47] <MarserBlood> ADD?:P
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#3740 [17:47] <Cr0wzah> Just kidding
#3741 [17:48] <Kealper> Attention Deficit Disorder? lol
#3742 [17:48] <Cr0wzah> Attention Deficiency Disorder
#3743 [17:48] <MarserBlood> ah, the sort of ADHD
#3744 [17:48] <Cr0wzah> It was a joke playing on an inability to focus on one thing at a time... An ability I do not possess.. :P
#3745 [17:48] <Kealper> really long words to say you have shitty concentration
#3746 [17:48] <Cr0wzah> ADHD (attention deficit hyperactive disorder)
#3747 [17:48] <MarserBlood> yeah i know
#3748 [17:48] <Cr0wzah> is with hyperactivity
#3749 [17:49] <Cr0wzah> which is not the same
#3750 [17:49] <MarserBlood> i dont have that:P
#3751 [17:49] <Cr0wzah> 'Twas only a joke.. :P
#3752 [17:49] <Cr0wzah> But yeah, get a third one
#3753 [17:49] <MarserBlood> i know :)
#3754 [17:49] <Cr0wzah> or replace your 19" with a 24
#3755 [17:49] <MarserBlood> theres not enough space on my desk for a third
#3756 [17:49] <Cr0wzah> or your TV with a proper screen
#3757 [17:49] <Kealper> i had a teacher with ADD once, it was funny, most unproductive guy ever, but he was pretty cool
#3758 [17:49] <Cr0wzah> attach it to the wall
#3759 [17:49] <Cr0wzah> like a man
#3760 [17:50] <Cr0wzah> haha, nice, +Kealper
#3761 [17:50] <MarserBlood> yeah that could be something :)
#3762 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> MarserBlood: desk? Wall-mount the sucker.
#3763 [17:50] <MarserBlood> dont i get eyecancer then?:P
#3764 [17:50] <Cr0wzah> nah
#3765 [17:51] <Kealper> buy two more and eyefinity the sucker lol
#3766 [17:51] <Cr0wzah> it's a joke that computer monitors cause eye damage
#3767 [17:51] <Cr0wzah> you can get tired, sure
#3768 [17:51] <Cr0wzah> but not damaged
#3769 [17:51] <MarserBlood> how you know for sure?
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#3771 [17:51] <Kealper> because it's medical term is eye strain lol
#3772 [17:52] <MarserBlood> ok thnx
#3773 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> FCVO sure, there have been several peer-reviewed studies that have shown that EMR from CRT and LCD monitors is negligible.
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#3776 [17:53] <RedNifre> I try to run a server on PC-BSD, but I always get "connection refused" when trying to connect to it. I can ping the server and it's in the same LAN. What can I do?
#3777 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> can you nc to the correct port?
#3778 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> (ping is not the most helpful test)
#3779 [17:55] <RedNifre> Uhm, what to run exactly?
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#3781 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> nc <ip> -p <port>
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#3784 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> nc == netcat(1), that command establishes, or attempts to establish, a TCP connection to the specified TCP port
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#3786 [17:57] <AnthroHuskey> BULLSHIT
#3787 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> no, it's quite true.
#3788 [17:57] <Kealper> HORESEPUCKEY
#3789 [17:57] <Kealper> horse*....
#3790 [17:57] <AnthroHuskey> i just hot a tiny bit of lava and it insta kills me
#3791 [17:58] <AnthroHuskey> all that red sotne all that gold and inron or melted away and the fucking game saves after i die WTF
#3792 [17:58] <AnthroHuskey> wow i canttype tonight
#3793 [17:58] <MarserBlood> HAHAHA
#3794 [17:58] <AnthroHuskey> fuck you marserblood
#3795 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> moral of the story: stash early; stash often.
#3796 [17:58] <AnthroHuskey> thanks dope i plan to
#3797 [17:58] <RedNifre> Would be cool if a full diamond armor would let you swim in Lava without taking damage/catching fire.
#3798 [17:59] <RedNifre> or a obsidian armor...
#3799 [17:59] <AnthroHuskey> notch should make it so you die it doesnt autosave
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#3801 [17:59] <AnthroHuskey> or make the autosave function switchable
#3802 [17:59] <MarserBlood> make yourself op and typ /give anthrohuskey 277
#3803 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> sounds like this was SSP.
#3804 [18:00] <AnthroHuskey> and what will that do blood?
#3805 [18:00] <AnthroHuskey> ssp?
#3806 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> and it's not so much auto-saving, so much as always saving
#3807 [18:00] <MarserBlood> give you diamond spade i think
#3808 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> SSP == survival single-pleyet
#3809 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> er, player
#3810 [18:00] <Cr0wzah> It's called survival for a reason
#3811 [18:00] <AnthroHuskey> thats still a bullshit function
#3812 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> yeah: because you don't.
#3813 [18:00] <Cr0wzah> not "happytime fun game"
#3814 [18:00] <AnthroHuskey> and i dont have it set to survival
#3815 [18:00] <Kealper> it
#3816 [18:00] <AnthroHuskey> the difficulty is normal
#3817 [18:00] <Kealper> it's always survival
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#3819 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> Losing is fun! Oh, wait, wrong game.
#3820 [18:00] <Cr0wzah> the game type
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#3822 [18:01] <Cr0wzah> well, its like "running a server farm: the simulator"
#3823 [18:01] <MarserBlood> that was dwarf fortress right?
#3824 [18:01] <Cr0wzah> alwyas backup
#3825 [18:01] <Cr0wzah> ALWAYS
#3826 [18:01] <RedNifre> hm, nc does not work that way, but I don't understand how to use it.
#3827 [18:01] <RedNifre> nc ip -p port does not work.
#3828 [18:01] <Cr0wzah> I'm off to grind away some time creating a meaningless singleplayer world.
#3829 [18:01] <MarserBlood> how do you backup a server?
#3830 [18:01] <Cr0wzah> Cya!
#3831 [18:01] <Cr0wzah> copy content onto another disk?`
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#3833 [18:02] <Kealper> alright so...how helpful would it be if we had a bot in here that could check if a minecraft server was running for someone?
#3834 [18:02] <Cr0wzah> disk(s) *
#3835 [18:02] <MarserBlood> you mean that folder where everything is stored in?
#3836 [18:02] <stomper> So, is the game still running slow for any of you guys? If it isn't, I have a technical problem which could use help
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#3839 [18:03] <MarserBlood> not slow for me
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#3841 [18:03] <Kealper> stomper: looks like leaf decay made a performance hit...again, so anyone without a monster pc will lag :S
#3842 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> RedNifre: try without -p; my bad. nc ip port
#3843 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> if you see #protocol error after a couple seconds, the TCP connection is working
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#3845 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> if you don't get another command prompt at all, press Enter a couple times.
#3846 [18:04] <MarserBlood> awesome, i have a monster pce :d
#3847 [18:05] <stomper> yeah
#3848 [18:05] <stomper> I'm sad
#3849 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: that'd be pretty easy to build.
#3850 [18:05] <Kealper> yea, adding it to AuBot right now
#3851 [18:05] * aftoktonian [aftoktonian@notlogged] has quit. (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
#3852 [18:05] <stomper> I run on a netbook; so I can't switch down to say, Tiny and try again :|
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#3854 [18:05] <Kealper> it'll probably be !check address:port
#3855 [18:05] * DopeGhoti looks around, and finally notices AuBot.
#3855 [18:05] <Kealper> or if no port, it'll default to 25565
#3856 [18:06] <Kealper> lol
#3857 [18:06] <DopeGhoti>
VERSION

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#3859 [18:06] <Kealper> you didn't notice the spam of red bold text when you joined? :P
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#3861 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> CTCP NOTICEs go to my server tab
#3862 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> which, no, I don't often check
#3863 [18:06] * Kealper ctcp versions
#3863 [18:07] <Kealper> i knew it!!!
#3864 [18:07] <Kealper> anywho
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#3866 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> heh
#3867 [18:07] <mrkcmty> hey, quick question
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#3869 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> did you scrape AuBot together from scratch, or is it built on some enging or another?
#3870 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> engine even
#3871 [18:07] <mrkcmty> Ooops
#3872 [18:07] <Kealper> that's one of the things that i didn't really like about irssi, is that it sent notices to the server tab instead of whatever tab you were viewing at the time :S
#3873 [18:07] <mrkcmty> howdy
#3874 [18:08] <Kealper> 100% my code, built from scratch
#3875 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> it's easy to change, I just can't be bothered to make the change :)
#3876 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> cool beans
#3877 [18:08] <mrkcmty> is this the help room or not @_@;
#3878 [18:08] <Kealper> mrkcmty: indeed it is
#3879 [18:08] * DopeGhoti has a quarter-baked IRC bot in his own channel that is also written from scratch
#3879 [18:08] <Kealper> lol
#3880 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> mrkcmty: Was that your question?
#3881 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> :)
#3882 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> what language did you choose?
#3883 [18:09] <Kealper> AutoIt (DUN DUN DUNNNN)
#3884 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> gesundheit
#3885 [18:09] <mrkcmty> oh, what could cause an old alpha server map to not work on a beta server (no mods used)
#3886 [18:09] <Kealper> xD
#3887 [18:09] <Kealper> mrkcmty: beta
#3888 [18:09] <Kealper> this beta update basically broke the game
#3889 [18:09] <AnthroHuskey> fucking great the chamber i died in is completly gone
#3890 [18:10] <Kealper> it's like Rose Red O.o
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#3893 [18:10] <Kealper> pending? lol
#3894 [18:10] <mrkcmty> so, that's another side effect in addition to the lag/slow down?
#3895 [18:10] <Kealper> indeed
#3896 [18:10] <AnthroHuskey> is it possible for the game to just up and like cave it in or soemthing?
#3897 [18:10] <Kealper> no
#3898 [18:11] <mrkcmty> why don't I see more map related questions on the forum?
#3899 [18:11] <Kealper> in rare cases yes, but for the sake of this case, no
#3900 [18:11] <AnthroHuskey> well its gone
#3901 [18:11] <AnthroHuskey> >.> really
#3902 [18:11] <AnthroHuskey> GOD DAMN IT
#3903 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: AutoIT? Never heard of it before. Looks mildly interesting.
#3904 [18:11] * Kealper goes all OCD on people spelling it AutoIT
#3904 [18:11] <Kealper> lol
#3905 [18:11] <AnthroHuskey> 4 sets of 64 coal 2 sets of 64 iron all gone in a instant
#3906 [18:12] <Kealper> AutoIt, pronnounced as it looks lol
#3907 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> w/IT/It/#sorry, sheeze
#3908 [18:12] * GreyVulpine snickers
#3908 [18:12] <AnthroHuskey> and no ope of getting them back becuase of the GOD DAMN AUTOSAVE FUNCTION
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#3911 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> AnthroHuskey: hint: There's more coal. And iron.
#3912 [18:12] <mrkcmty> so Beta broke everything on everyone's server @_@;
#3913 [18:12] * pending is now known as aftoktonian
#3914 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> mrkcmty: not everyone's
#3915 [18:12] <AnthroHuskey> no shit shurloc
#3916 [18:12] <Kealper> it was originally made for automating windows programs, for like doing software rollouts in corperate enviroments and such
#3917 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> the worst that's happened on my server is that sometimes a client fails to load a chunk, and you see a huge square pit straight to the Void.
#3918 [18:13] <Kealper> but since then it's morphed into probably the best scripting language you could possibly find for windows
#3919 [18:13] <AnthroHuskey> but the hours i spent gettig down there and collecting stuff is gone and all in vain
#3920 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: verrry interesting. I don't use Windows a lot, but when I do, I miss bash, so I install Cygwin. This looks potentially useful.
#3921 [18:14] <mrkcmty> Im so sad, so my alpha map is gone FOREVER
#3922 [18:14] <mrkcmty> ?!?
#3923 [18:14] <Kealper> it's quite powerful...it's got COM support, DLL support...other stuff like that, so you can get some pretty low level work done with it if you need to
#3924 [18:14] <AnthroHuskey> screw this i may be a man and beable to suck it up but im taking a break.. go fuck my boyfriend or soemthing
#3925 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> AnthroHuskey:it could be said that you're not exactly in the running for a Nobel Peace Prize for playing Minecraft all day in the first place...
#3926 [18:14] <mrkcmty> )-;
#3927 [18:15] <AnthroHuskey> dopeghoti i been playing the last couple hours today
#3928 [18:15] <aftoktonian> yes, I was pending
#3929 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> My point being "Oh noes, that time I spent wasting my time playing a game has been wasted!" is a somewhat silly (if understandable) gripe.
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#3931 [18:16] <mrkcmty> DopeGhotiL: some people's alpha maps work in beta?
#3932 [18:16] <RedNifre> hm, nc ip port does nothing, apparently.
#3933 [18:16] <RedNifre> What does that mean?
#3934 [18:16] <AnthroHuskey> and liek i siad i can suck it up and keep playing i love this game but still it pisses me off when i do all that work and WHAM all gone out the window
#3935 [18:16] <Kealper> RedNifre: gimme a sec, making aubot able to test for stuff
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#3938 [18:17] <Melancholi> Why is it that my freinds are being kicked out of my server in like 10 sec
#3939 [18:17] <mrkcmty> read the forum for that one -_-;
#3940 [18:17] <mrkcmty> its a beta glitch
#3941 [18:18] <AnthroHuskey> but like i said as well im gonan go ride my boyfriend for a bit and relax
#3942 [18:18] <AnthroHuskey> or maybe read Mogworld
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#3946 [18:18] <Melancholi> mrkcmty, is there a solution on those forums that you know of?
#3947 [18:19] <AnthroHuskey> hey another huskey in the chat -wags tail-
#3948 [18:19] <Kealper> O.o
#3949 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> RedNifre: by 'does nothing' what do you mean?
#3950 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> 'gives no output'?
#3951 [18:20] <RedNifre> Yes, I'm just back at entering a command.
#3952 [18:20] <RedNifre> Instantly.
#3953 [18:20] <RedNifre> If I try it with a nonexisting ip it takes a second to finish, but has no output either.
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#3955 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> try it once more and then, as your next command, enter "echo $?"
#3956 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> you should see a number. If it's not zero, the TCP connection failed.
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#3959 [18:21] <RedNifre> 1
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#3961 [18:21] <Neko> Ok, so I need help with my server...
#3962 [18:21] <RedNifre> but it also returns one when I check a nonexisting ip before that
#3963 [18:22] <RedNifre> everyone does.
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#3965 [18:22] * Kealper compiles module
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#3966 [18:22] <Misan> are there any OGL tutorials for c++ beside NeHe?
#3967 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> because connecting to a nonexistant IP also fails. IMagine that :)
#3968 [18:22] <Neko> No, I mean I nee dhelp getting it going..
#3969 [18:22] <Misan> i havnt tried java yet
#3970 [18:22] <Neko> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=112433&p=1644916#p1644916
#3971 [18:22] <Misan> its very limited afaik
#3972 [18:22] <Neko> dont feel like typing it all out again
#3973 [18:22] <Kealper> !reload mod_motd
#3974 [18:23] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
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#3976 [18:23] <Kealper> hmmm.....
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#3978 [18:23] <Teekeks> Hi
#3979 [18:23] <Kealper> i should really check to see if i'm even parsing that correctly
#3980 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: FR: Allow people to test using /msg so as not to clutter the channel. Or make replies work thusly.
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#3982 [18:24] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: it's ghettocode in that module, it was just something that i slapped on to the motd module
#3983 [18:24] <Teekeks> There be any idea how I can play Minecraft with the fps-bug? I like to play but I have only 3fps :(
#3984 [18:24] <Kealper> which is ghettocode in itself
#3985 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> heh
#3986 [18:24] <Kealper> hardcoded channel for privmsg lol
#3987 [18:25] <Kealper> Teekeks: bug with beta, you'll have to wait as there is no fix
#3988 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> man
#3989 [18:25] <Neko> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=112433&p=1644916#p1644916 anyone? :/
#3990 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> I don't know if I'm just lucky or what
#3991 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> I still get 160FPS in my client.
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#3993 [18:25] <Jimi> Hey- can I post mulitpule texture packs in one forum post?
#3994 [18:25] <Xuqe_Noia> hi
#3995 [18:25] <Teekeks> Kealper: I know, but... OK I wait :(
#3996 [18:25] <Xuqe_Noia> can someone help me
#3997 [18:25] <Xuqe_Noia> ?
#3998 [18:25] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: but the module also has flood control on it so it can't be abused to spam the channel
#3999 [18:26] <Xuqe_Noia> i want to make a classic creative server
#4000 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> that's always good.
#4001 [18:26] <Xuqe_Noia> and i dont know how to
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#4003 [18:26] <Xuqe_Noia> i have a server
#4004 [18:26] <Xuqe_Noia> but his map is to big and already is build it
#4005 [18:26] <Xuqe_Noia> i wnat a clean map
#4006 [18:26] <Xuqe_Noia> just with the class
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#4009 [18:27] <Kealper> sorry, i'd help but i've forgotten everything about classic :S
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#4012 [18:27] <Kealper> and i know it uses different map formats, so i'm not sure where it stores it's map :S
#4013 [18:27] <Jimi> Reset the map!
#4014 [18:27] <Xuqe_Noia> i dont know how
#4015 [18:27] <Kealper> you delete the map to reset it, but dont't ask me what to delete :S
#4016 [18:27] <Jimi> I don't know how to run a MCClassic server either.
#4017 [18:27] <Xuqe_Noia> no
#4018 [18:27] <Xuqe_Noia> check this
#4019 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> you delte.. the map
#4020 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> :)
#4021 [18:28] <Xuqe_Noia> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=222cc391c69fe7a4900592fda2d9b41a
#4022 [18:28] <Kealper> make sure the server is not running when you delete it
#4023 [18:28] <Xuqe_Noia> it is running on the default minecraft maps
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#4026 [18:29] <Xuqe_Noia> and i wanna a map like this
#4027 [18:29] <Xuqe_Noia> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=e018d76f56fea892e9590c0e2d9ee840
#4028 [18:29] <Xuqe_Noia> just with the grass
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#4030 [18:30] <Kealper> map generator?
#4031 [18:30] <Xuqe_Noia> i already download alot
#4032 [18:30] <Xuqe_Noia> but i dont get it
#4033 [18:30] <Kealper> i'm really no help for classic servers :S
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#4035 [18:30] * Neko sighs..
#4035 [18:30] <dfgsdf> WTF?!?!
#4036 [18:30] <Kealper> FTW!!!!
#4037 [18:30] <dfgsdf> i need help....
#4038 [18:30] <Kealper> yes?
#4039 [18:30] * Neko is constantly ignored
#4039 [18:31] <Kealper> Neko: don't be such a downer lol
#4040 [18:31] <dfgsdf> so im trying to host a server and i keep getting "NOT ENOUGH RAM!" i use the jar file
#4041 [18:31] * Teckwiz [Teckwiz@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4042 [18:31] <Neko> i been trying to get my server to work with my public IP with no luck for about 2hrs now..
#4043 [18:31] <Mikau> Don't worry about it, dfgsdf.
#4044 [18:31] <Teckwiz> Port open?
#4045 [18:31] <Kealper> meh...it's probably safe to ignore the not enough ram thing
#4046 [18:31] <Neko> ports open
#4047 [18:31] <Neko> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=112433&p=1644916#p1644916
#4048 [18:31] <dfgsdf> yeah my part is open
#4049 [18:31] <Neko> i made a thread..
#4050 [18:31] <Mikau> JVM can only use 1GB or RAM and I have 12GB on my server
#4051 [18:32] <Mikau> I still get that message.
#4052 [18:32] <Teckwiz> When hMod updates, instal the port pluin
#4053 [18:32] <Teckwiz> what command are you typing to open the server?
#4054 [18:32] <Xuqe_Noia> ho do i get another server map's
#4055 [18:32] <Xuqe_Noia> ?
#4056 [18:33] <Xuqe_Noia> on the classic
#4057 [18:33] * spdorsey [spdorsey@notlogged] has quit. (Quit: spdorsey)
#4058 [18:33] <Teckwiz> Do you own the server?
#4059 [18:33] <Xuqe_Noia> no
#4060 [18:33] <Teckwiz> Ask the admin nicely
#4061 [18:33] <dfgsdf> what command do i type?
#4062 [18:33] <Xuqe_Noia> i got the mcedit to make maps
#4063 [18:33] <Teckwiz> For what?
#4064 [18:33] <Xuqe_Noia> i finish of the making
#4065 [18:33] <Xuqe_Noia> but i cant export to .dat
#4066 [18:34] <Kealper> Xuqe_Noia: MCEdit is for survival maps not creative ones
#4067 [18:34] <Xuqe_Noia> :(
#4068 [18:34] <Kealper> check the wiki, it has a list of map editors, and what game types they support
#4069 [18:34] <dfgsdf> i keep getting "Can't keep up! Did the system time change....etc"
#4070 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> dfgsdf: normal.
#4071 [18:34] <Kealper> dfgsdf: ignore it
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#4074 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> dfgsdf: also, creative name choice.
#4075 [18:35] <Kealper> you could be hosting on RoadRunner and still see that message
#4076 [18:35] <Neko> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=112433&p=1644916#p1644916 Can someone read this please?
#4077 [18:35] <Neko> i been trying to figure this out forawhile now
#4078 [18:35] <Teckwiz> Reading now
#4079 [18:35] <Neko> thanks..
#4080 [18:35] <dfgsdf> thanks
#4081 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> Neko: in your server.properties file
#4082 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Neko, can you confirm that you have only a modem and a router?
#4083 [18:37] <Neko> yes
#4084 [18:37] <Neko> one modem and linksys router
#4085 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> Neko: on the server-ip line
#4086 [18:37] <Neko> I've tried puting my ip in
#4087 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> Neko: did you leave that blank? (the correct answer is 'yes')
#4088 [18:37] <Neko> yes
#4089 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> waht IP did you put there?
#4090 [18:37] <Neko> it's blank
#4091 [18:37] <Neko> my public IP
#4092 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> ah, okay. Leave it blank.
#4093 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Neko - You're absolutely sure it's a modem, and not a combination modem/router?
#4094 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> would you mind sharing your IP so I can test the connection?
#4095 [18:38] <Xuqe_Noia> what program do i use
#4096 [18:38] <Xuqe_Noia> to make
#4097 [18:38] <Neko> um
#4098 [18:38] <Xuqe_Noia> a classic creative map?
#4099 [18:38] <Neko> it's an embarq modem with a linksys wireless router
#4100 [18:38] <Neko> let me start the server
#4101 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> Neko: if your computer is behind the router, do you have port forwarding set up?
#4102 [18:39] <Neko> 67.238.12.110
#4103 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. embarq?
#4104 [18:39] <Neko> yes
#4105 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> You're doing DSL?
#4106 [18:39] <Neko> i port forwarded 25565
#4107 [18:39] <Neko> um, i guess?
#4108 [18:39] <Xuqe_Noia> +Kealper: so, what program do i use to make classic creative maps?
#4109 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Neko, could you go into the linksys's setup page.. and tell me the WAN/public ip there?
#4110 [18:39] <Kealper> Xuqe_Noia: no idea what they are called, check the minecraft wiki, it lists some
#4111 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> Neko: the connection is timing out.
#4112 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> so the forwarding is set up incorrectly, or your computer's firewall is stealthing the connection.
#4113 [18:40] <Neko> IP Address : 192.168.2.2
#4114 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> There you go
#4115 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Router behind a router
#4116 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> You have a combination modem/router, going to a router
#4117 [18:41] <Neko> how so?
#4118 [18:41] <Neko> oh
#4119 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Your DSL modem also has a router functionality built in
#4120 [18:41] <Neko> is it because my desktop is conencting wirelessly?
#4121 [18:41] * GreyVulpine shakes
#4121 [18:41] <Neko> oh, i see
#4122 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> It's your embarq modem.
#4123 [18:41] <Neko> so, what do i do?
#4124 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> You need to port forward from your embarq modem, to your linksys
#4125 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> then your linksys to your computer
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#4127 [18:41] <Neko> uuum..
#4128 [18:41] <Neko> ok
#4129 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> "or, you need to get rid of the linksys router you apparently don't need" :)
#4130 [18:42] <Neko> well
#4131 [18:42] <Neko> lol
#4132 [18:42] * GreyVulpine snerks
#4132 [18:42] <Neko> our previous modem didnt have wireless
#4133 [18:42] <Neko> so we had to get linksys
#4134 [18:42] <CoZmicShReddeR> is anyone having an issue with using whitelist??
#4135 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo. It's a relatively simple process.
#4136 [18:42] <phxvyper> * SimonMattacks connected.
#4137 [18:42] <Neko> alright..
#4138 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> Let me make this perfectly clear: If you are going wireless-behind-router-behind-router, your server will be _unplayable_.
#4139 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - Wait, why?
#4140 [18:43] <phxvyper> (console): hey
#4141 [18:43] <Neko> im confused though,...
#4142 [18:43] <phxvyper> * SimonMattacks left the server.
#4143 [18:43] <phxvyper> * SimonMattacks connected.
#4144 [18:43] <Neko> cause i only pick up one wireless signal
#4145 [18:43] * [Husky]Shnaw is now known as [Husky]Shnaw|AFK
#4146 [18:43] <Neko> and thats the linksys
#4147 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> phxvyper - Are you using this channel to forward IRC chat from your server?
#4148 [18:44] <phxvyper> * Ninjabrand connected.
#4149 [18:44] <Neko> >_>
#4150 [18:44] * Teckwiz [Teckwiz@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#4151 [18:44] * GreyVulpine blinks
#4151 [18:44] <Neko> guess so
#4152 [18:44] <phxvyper> (console): hey simon, i fixed the irc so now irc will be received...
#4153 [18:44] <phxvyper> * crafter143 connected.
#4154 [18:44] <phxvyper> * crafter143 left the server.
#4155 [18:44] * GreyVulpine kicked phxvyper from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Bot script detected. Neutralizing...)()
#4156 [18:44] <Kealper> kill it with fucking fire
#4157 [18:44] <Neko> thats gonna get annoying
#4158 [18:44] <Kealper> danke
#4159 [18:44] <Neko> lol
#4160 [18:45] <Neko> anyways
#4161 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Neat, didn't realize I had that was a predefined script
#4162 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Been too long
#4163 [18:45] <Neko> GreyVulpine: should the embarq send out a signal?
#4164 [18:45] <Kealper> lolwut?
#4165 [18:45] <Neko> because i dont pick it up on my computer
#4166 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> I have a bunch of predefined ban stuff, that I almost never use anymore
#4167 [18:46] <Kealper> oh lol
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#4169 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Neko - Could you tell me your network layout, starting with your server's ip?
#4170 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> I guess that your linksys router is 192.168.1.1?
#4171 [18:47] <Neko> elaborate?
#4172 [18:47] <Neko> oh, yes
#4173 [18:47] <Jimi> GreyVulpine!
#4174 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Your computer's ip address is?
#4175 [18:47] * lukegb|DirkDerp is now known as lukegb
#4176 [18:47] <Neko> my computer's IP?
#4177 [18:47] <Neko> or my public ip?
#4178 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Your computer's internal NAT IPs
#4179 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> IP*
#4180 [18:47] <Neko> ok, How do i find that?
#4181 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Running.. windows?
#4182 [18:48] <Neko> windows 7
#4183 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> start -> search bar -> "cmd"
#4184 [18:48] <Jimi> Use Linux.
#4185 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> then "ipconfig" at the command prompt
#4186 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Jimi, did you need something?
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#4188 [18:49] <Jimi> No, I just am ready to help people with stuff.
#4189 [18:49] <Jimi> I like to.
#4190 [18:49] <Neko> GreyVulpine: what info?
#4191 [18:49] <Hsnow> is there any way i can change the distance from spawn that people can build
#4192 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> IPv4 address
#4193 [18:49] <Neko> it says ipv6
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#4195 [18:49] <Jimi> Yes.
#4196 [18:49] <Jimi> You can.
#4197 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Is there an IPv4 address?
#4198 [18:50] <Hsnow> how?
#4199 [18:50] * Miclee [Miclee@notlogged] has quit. (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
#4200 [18:50] <Neko> oh i see
#4201 [18:50] <Neko> 192.168.1.100
#4202 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Great, that's your computer's NAT address
#4203 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Okay. could you go to your router's port forwarding page?
#4204 [18:50] <Neko> mhmm
#4205 [18:50] <Neko> i hv a pic
#4206 [18:51] <Jimi> In server.properties, there is a line: spawn-radius, or something along the lines of it, change that number to how far you want it to be.
#4207 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to port forward 25565-25565 / TCP to that 1.100 address
#4208 [18:51] <Neko> http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8656/routerg.png
#4209 [18:51] <Neko> is that right?
#4210 [18:51] <Kealper> !reload mod_motd
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#4212 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Did you change the port from default?
#4213 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> 55664?
#4214 [18:51] <Neko> default was 0, so yes
#4215 [18:51] <Neko> and that was me tryign a diff port for the server
#4216 [18:51] <Kealper> O.o what's mcsrv supposed to be?
#4217 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> No, I mean, did you change the port of the server.properties file on your MC server?
#4218 [18:52] <Jimi> !reaload mod_motd
#4219 [18:52] <Jimi> !help
#4220 [18:52] <Neko> no
#4221 [18:52] <Neko> it's 25565
#4222 [18:52] <MrPapillon> i can't see any fix for the disconnect server problem, anyone found a solution yet ?
#4223 [18:52] <Kealper> Jimi: only i can do those :P
#4224 [18:52] <MrPapillon> (hi)
#4225 [18:52] <Neko> i did at one time
#4226 [18:52] <Jimi> D:
#4227 [18:52] <Neko> i changed it back
#4228 [18:52] <Jimi> D:
#4229 [18:52] <Jimi> I AM SO SAD NOW!
#4230 [18:52] <Kealper> xD
#4231 [18:52] <Jimi> Must hit Kealper on thier head!
#4232 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Okay, well, 25565 is the default port you should forward, unless you changed it in server.properties
#4233 [18:53] <MrPapillon> "disconnect overflow" sorry
#4234 [18:53] <Neko> okay
#4235 [18:53] <Kealper> ohmahgawd moar Play-Doh!
#4236 [18:53] <Neko> i left the port alone so it's good
#4237 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Okay.
#4238 [18:53] <Kealper> Grey i made something helpful for debugging on aubot O.o
#4239 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Oooo.. I didn't see 25565 at mcft
#4240 [18:53] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#4241 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> I thought you were still using 55664
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#4243 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Okay then
#4244 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Go to your linksys router's setup page
#4245 [18:54] <Neko> :D
#4246 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> You said the router's WAN ip was 192.168.2.2?
#4247 [18:54] <mib_cogzub> so is there no multiplayer survival mode?
#4248 [18:54] <Neko> you want a screeny?
#4249 [18:54] <Neko> yes
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#4251 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> No, I'm good
#4252 [18:54] * [Husky]Shnaw|AFK is now known as [Husky]Shnaw
#4253 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Default gateway of 2.1?
#4254 [18:55] * guacamole [guacamole@notlogged] has quit. (Quit: Client Exited)
#4255 [18:55] <mib_cogzub> there is?
#4256 [18:55] <Neko> Login Type : Automatic Configuration - DHCP IP Address : 192.168.2.2 Subnet Mask : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway : 192.168.2.1
#4257 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#4258 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Now, you'll want to go to http://192.168.2.1
#4259 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully the password should still be 1234
#4260 [18:55] <mib_cogzub> ......i cant figure it out:/
#4261 [18:56] <Neko> 1234 isn't it :/
#4262 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Damn, unm
#4263 [18:57] <Neko> brb
#4264 [18:57] <Neko> oh
#4265 [18:57] <mib_cogzub> does anyone know how to play multiplayer survival mode!
#4266 [18:57] <Neko> i got it
#4267 [18:57] <Neko> its the password i setup for the linksys
#4268 [18:57] <Neko> the wepa key or w/e
#4269 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Ah, great
#4270 [18:58] <MrPapillon> multiplayer survival was the default for me
#4271 [18:58] <Neko> GreyVulpine:
#4272 [18:58] <Neko> Replace Factory Default Certificate The factory default certificate is common to all Prestige models. Click Apply to create a certificate using your Prestige's MAC address that will be specific to this device.
#4273 [18:58] <MrPapillon> when setting up a serverr
#4274 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> I'm not at all familiar with Embarq modem/routers at all.. so
#4275 [18:58] <Neko> do i want to do this? >_>
#4276 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> What options do you have?
#4277 [18:58] <MrPapillon> perhaps you are trying to connect to a server that is not configured to run survival
#4278 [18:58] <Neko> apply
#4279 [18:58] <Neko> ignore
#4280 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Is that it on the whole page?
#4281 [18:58] <Neko> yea
#4282 [18:58] <Neko> that message then apply/ignore
#4283 [18:58] * GreyVulpine blinks
#4283 [18:59] <Neko> ok, brb for a sec
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#4286 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> neko, click on ignore
#4287 [19:00] <duo93> ello ello
#4288 [19:00] <Neko> alright
#4289 [19:00] <Neko> it takes me back to the login screen
#4290 [19:00] * GreyVulpine blinks
#4290 [19:00] <Neko> i login and i get that message again..
#4291 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> That shouldn't happen according to the manual..
#4292 [19:01] <Neko> clicked apply, now im in
#4293 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Options?
#4294 [19:02] <Neko> wizard setup
#4295 [19:02] <Neko> advanced setup
#4296 [19:02] <Neko> maintence
#4297 [19:02] <Neko> logout
#4298 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> advanced setup... NAT or firewall
#4299 [19:03] <Neko> advance setup> Password LAN WAN NAT Dynamic DNS Time And Date Firewall Certificates Remote Management UPnP System Status DHCP Table Diagnostic Firmware and Factory Reset If you see this message, it means yo
#4300 [19:03] * duo93 [duo93@notlogged] has quit. (Quit: Client Exited)
#4301 [19:03] <Neko> Firewall - Firewall Functions Default Policy Configure the default Policy. Rule Summary Set up firewall. Anti Probing Set up anti probing. Threshold Configure the threshold.
#4302 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Actually, screw it, go back to maintenance, and diagnostic
#4303 [19:03] <Neko> ok
#4304 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Network layer
#4305 [19:04] <Neko> Diagnostic General General Diagnostics. DSL Line DSL Line Diagnostics. Network Layer Network Layer Diagnostics. Connection Connection Diagnostics.
#4306 [19:04] <Neko> ook
#4307 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Do you see Operating mode
#4308 [19:04] * Erdinen [Erdinen@notlogged] has quit. (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
#4309 [19:04] <Neko> yes
#4310 [19:04] * Xuqe_Noia [Xuqe_Noia@notlogged] has quit. (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
#4311 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to change it to Bridge Mode
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#4313 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> You might lose internet for a few seconds when you do this
#4314 [19:05] <Kealper> lul..the super rare secret is DeadMau5 has his own custom skin xD
#4315 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#4316 [19:05] <MrPapillon> anyone tried ramdisk for killing harddrive latency ?
#4317 [19:06] <MrPapillon> (serverside mostly)
#4318 [19:06] <Kealper> not i
#4319 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Neko, you still there?
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#4321 [19:09] <Unheard> Can anyone assist? Ever since upgrading to beta, all my users are getting booted off shortly after connecting with a connection reset error
#4322 [19:09] * Neko [Neko@notlogged] has quit. (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
#4323 [19:10] <Unheard> ive tried now on 3 different connections to my server
#4324 [19:10] <Unheard> and have the same issue
#4325 [19:10] <Coll> Anyone here
#4326 [19:10] <Coll> minecraft lags like a complete bitch now
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#4331 [19:12] * Kealper has returned!
#4331 [19:12] <Kealper> yes Coll, yes it does
#4332 [19:12] <Coll> why
#4333 [19:12] <Kealper> probably leaf decay...again...lol
#4334 [19:12] <Coll> I dont understand how any of the bug fixes he did
#4335 [19:12] <Coll> ugh
#4336 [19:12] <Coll> why does leaf decay do that
#4337 [19:12] <Kealper> no idea
#4338 [19:12] <Unheard> Coll, not bugfixes, bug creations
#4339 [19:13] <MarserBlood> why doesnt he fix smp instead of implementing leaf decay
#4340 [19:13] * Jimi wishes that deamue5's skin was not the rare update.
#4340 [19:13] <Kealper> MarserBlood: leaf decay was supposed to be one of said fixes lol
#4341 [19:13] * TechnoBulldog [TechnoBulldog@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#4342 [19:14] * Jimi also wishes that Notch would spend more time working out bugs and not adding capes for Mojang.
#4342 [19:14] <Coll> well leaf decay works
#4343 [19:14] <Coll> but I really dont understand why there is constantly more and more debilitating bugs
#4344 [19:14] <Coll> does anyone over there actually test any of this shit before forcing us to update?
#4345 [19:14] <Kealper> because it wouldn't be minecraft if it didn't break more with more updates
#4346 [19:14] <Unheard> Coll, I can't even use my server
#4347 [19:15] <Unheard> i log on, and it immediately kicks me off w/ connection reset
#4348 [19:15] <Unheard> happens to all my users
#4349 [19:15] <Unheard> have reinstalled the latest server 10 times over
#4350 [19:15] <Jimi> Wait.
#4351 [19:15] <Kealper> same, as with 90% of the other people who try it
#4352 [19:15] <Hsnow> ok i got the svn version of MCAdmin and it gives me tons of C# files, do i have to compile them?
#4353 [19:16] <Unheard> good job notch, can i have my $13 back now?
#4354 [19:16] <Kealper> Hsnow: yes, and here is not the place to ask
#4355 [19:16] <Coll> yeah I am starting to regret my purchase
#4356 [19:16] <Jimi> Till tomorrow, when Notch will save is!
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#4358 [19:16] <Jimi> I hope.
#4359 [19:16] <Coll> isnt that what has said he would do yesterday
#4360 [19:16] <Unheard> Jimi: i predict that jesus returning has about the same odds
#4361 [19:16] <Jimi> So he will fix it!
#4362 [19:16] <Kealper> lol
#4363 [19:17] <Hsnow> Unheard stop QQing and get over it everyone else is having the same problem so why do you feel that you should be the only one with the fix when you want it
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#4365 [19:17] <Jimi> We call people like you Brats.
#4366 [19:17] <Unheard> mainly because im a software developer, and if i did this to my customers i would be hung
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#4368 [19:18] <Hsnow> just wait and if youre patient you will eventually get the fix
#4369 [19:18] <Jimi> Do your costumers like you a lot?
#4370 [19:18] * NishaKitty [NishaKitty@notlogged] has quit. (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
#4371 [19:18] <Kealper> Unheard: if you are a software dev, then you know most of the time when you test software on your machines, it will work fine, but others have issues
#4372 [19:18] <Unheard> sure guys, have this, we will call it an update, ignore the fact it breaks all the previous things you enjoyed about it
#4373 [19:18] <Hsnow> what "consumers"
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#4375 [19:18] <Neko> bad GreyVulpine
#4376 [19:18] <Neko> :<
#4377 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Mrah?
#4378 [19:18] <Coll> Kealper
#4379 [19:18] <Jimi> Aplha: Adding stuff. Beta: Bug removing Release: Revalation for the playersa
#4380 [19:18] <Coll> explain this to me
#4381 [19:18] <Kealper> Coll
#4382 [19:18] <j0rd4nt> Hey all, safe to say there hasn't been a fix for the disconnect.overflow issue yet?
#4383 [19:18] <Neko> THAT KILLED MY INTERNET
#4384 [19:18] <Coll> how
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#4386 [19:19] <Neko> oops, caps
#4387 [19:19] <Jimi> Learn the ABR of games
#4388 [19:19] <Coll> jsut about everyone has problems with the game atm
#4389 [19:19] <Unheard> Kealper: hence the reason my company has multiple testing environments for testing
#4390 [19:19] <Kealper> calm down kiddies, i never said it was the case here
#4391 [19:19] <Neko> my internet wouldn't work after that
#4392 [19:19] <Coll> yet they didnt have any when they released this update
#4393 [19:19] <Coll> basicly from what you are saying
#4394 [19:19] <PrincePheonix> can i get someone to help me set up my server again, it keep coming up with an error messege
#4395 [19:19] <Neko> netflix in the living room went down, my computer, the computer directly linked to the modem went down
#4396 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I should've mentioned that you need to acquire a new ip address from your router after you did that Neko
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#4398 [19:19] <Kealper> i'm just saying shit happens, and the game is not finished..
#4399 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Need to DHCP release/renew from your linksys
#4400 [19:20] <Jimi> Aplha: Adding stuff. Beta: Bug removing. Release: Revalation for the players. Now you know that ABRs, next time won't you like updates that cuase lag.
#4401 [19:20] <Neko> what do you mean, a new ip?
#4402 [19:20] <Kealper> deal with it like a man, quit bitching
#4403 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes Neko
#4404 [19:20] <Coll> they game was also charging you during alpha
#4405 [19:20] <Coll> and the game sstill has debilitating bugs at beta
#4406 [19:20] <Jimi> Read the ABRs.
#4407 [19:20] <Kealper> Coll: that was a perpurchace for the finished product with the ability to play the dev builds as it was being made, site said so
#4408 [19:20] <Jimi> Then stop whining.
#4409 [19:20] <Unheard> i realize that some people treat notch as an idol, but truth be told, he's in it for the money just like any other developer out there. do you defend MS when they push out an update that breaks things?
#4410 [19:21] <Neko> GreyVulpine: I can't do it now because my family will go nutz
#4411 [19:21] <Kealper> also read the disclaimer on the multiplayer part in the client when you go to connect to a server...
#4412 [19:21] <Coll> Look I am jsut saying most of the bad bugs should have been in alpha and fixed then
#4413 [19:21] <Unheard> Kealper: the one you get to read *after* you buy the game?
#4414 [19:21] <Jimi> Can anyone add the ABRs to the op? It would remove a bit of spam.
#4415 [19:21] <Coll> beta can still have bugs but they shouldnt be this bad
#4416 [19:21] <Neko> GreyVulpine: And you probably wont be on when they all go to bed..
#4417 [19:22] <Coll> no it wouldnt Jimi
#4418 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Neko - after you set it to bridge on the modem, all you need to do is DHCP release/renew on the router, and you'll get internet again
#4419 [19:22] <Coll> cause no one reads it anyways
#4420 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> And your port forward will work
#4421 [19:22] <MrPapillon> the reason why it would be better to beta test the beta
#4422 [19:22] <Neko> whats dhcp?
#4423 [19:22] <Kealper> fuck it...i give up....fine, go bitch about the game not working...but for fucks sake do it in #minecraft not in here
#4424 [19:22] <MrPapillon> before releasing the beta that is more of a pre-alpha
#4425 [19:22] <Unheard> oh well, my complaining and $5 will get you a cup of coffee @ starbucks
#4426 [19:22] <Unheard> so no sense in it
#4427 [19:22] <Coll> tbh this beta switch really seemed rushed
#4428 [19:22] <PrincePheonix> anyone? server set up help?
#4429 [19:23] <MrPapillon> the purpose of the beta is not to lose the time of 700 000 players
#4430 [19:23] <Jimi> Notch siad he did not feel ready for Beta on the 20th, but he made a promise.
#4431 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Neko, if you go to your linksys router's status page.
#4432 [19:23] <MrPapillon> perhaps it could have been better to test on 1000 dedicated victims
#4433 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> You'll see two buttons at the bottom
#4434 [19:23] <Neko> mhmm
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#4436 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> DHCP release, releases the IP address held by the router
#4437 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> DHCP renew, renews the IP
#4438 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> (or gets a new one)
#4439 [19:24] <Neko> OH
#4440 [19:24] <Neko> i see
#4441 [19:24] <Neko> that button at the bottom, lol
#4442 [19:24] <Neko> alright, thanks for the help~!
#4443 [19:24] <Neko> i'l have to do this later
#4444 [19:25] * GreyVulpine is playing Freelancer again for nostalgic purposes.
#4444 [19:25] * Kealper is drinking a glass of milk
#4444 [19:25] <Neko> ..and if it doesn't work i'll come right back to bother you..er, i mean ask questions ;3
#4445 [19:25] * Jimi is working on a texture pack.
#4445 [19:26] * Hsnow thinks Earthbound is the best game ever
#4445 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> It'll work, but you're always welcome to come back for any help.
#4446 [19:26] <MarserBlood> freelancer
#4447 [19:26] <MarserBlood> game from 2002, i like it:P
#4448 [19:26] <Neko> can i come back to just give hugs to you? :o
#4449 [19:26] <Hsnow> Earthbound>everything
#4450 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Heh
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#4452 [19:26] * Neko pounces and clings to GreyVulpine's leg
#4452 [19:26] * Jimi likes to play Osmos and Revenge of the Titans
#4452 [19:26] <Neko> :3
#4453 [19:27] <Kealper> frickin' cats lol
#4454 [19:27] <Neko> Meow~
#4455 [19:27] <Neko> it's ironic cause im a wolf :3
#4456 [19:27] <Kealper> but Neko is japanese for cat >.>
#4457 [19:27] <Neko> yes
#4458 [19:28] <Jimi> :|>-X<
#4459 [19:28] <Jimi> Kitty^
#4460 [19:28] <Neko> I made the name nekoyasha (neko for short) based off of the anime Inuyasha
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#4463 [19:28] <Neko> but i'm a wolf :3
#4464 [19:28] <Neko> which i found out later on
#4465 [19:28] <MarserBloodNL> lol firefox crashed
#4466 [19:28] <Kealper> catwolf ftw? lol
#4467 [19:29] <Kealper> wait
#4468 [19:29] <Kealper> catdemon
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#4470 [19:29] <Neko> :p
#4471 [19:29] <MarserBloodNL> im making campgrounds (redux) from quake atm :D
#4472 [19:29] <Jimi> Lets breed Wolfs with Cats! Why? FOR SCIENCE!
#4473 [19:29] <Kealper> ^~,..,~^
#4474 [19:29] <MarserBloodNL> for insiders dm6
#4475 [19:29] <Jimi> ///;;\\\\
#4476 [19:29] <Jimi> ///(;;)\\\\
#4477 [19:29] <Kealper> OHMAHGAWD A SPIDER!!!
#4478 [19:30] <Jimi> Spider wants to kill you!
#4479 [19:30] <MarserBloodNL> but while i have quake on and minecraft, it does some messed up shit
#4480 [19:30] <Neko> >_>
#4481 [19:30] * Neko hides in GreyVulpine's shirt
#4481 [19:31] <Jimi> JJJJJJJJJJJJ()
#4482 [19:31] <Jimi> ^Catipillar
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#4484 [19:31] <Neko> GreyVulpine: use mIRC?
#4485 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> when did this become #ASCII-art ?
#4486 [19:31] <Kealper> indeed he does
#4487 [19:32] <MarserBloodNL> ascii art?
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#4489 [19:32] <Kealper> idk, when did this become like #minecraft?
#4490 [19:32] <Jimi> ^ is a Bot
#4491 [19:32] <Jimi> <Is a human
#4492 [19:32] <MarserBloodNL> lol
#4493 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> sometime after /mode #minecrafthelp -m
#4494 [19:32] <Jimi> V is dumb
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#4496 [19:32] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: true, true
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#4498 [19:32] <Jimi> Slen is dumb!
#4499 [19:33] <Jimi> Sorry!
#4500 [19:33] <Jimi> V is smart
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#4502 [19:33] <Jimi> Miclee is smart!
#4503 [19:33] <Jimi> V is Bill Gates!
#4504 [19:33] <Kealper> but seriously, i liked this channel much more before beta came out...after beta it's just been troll after retard after troll :S
#4505 [19:33] <Jimi> Kealper is Bill Gates!
#4506 [19:34] <Kealper> bill gates wishes he were as cool as me
#4507 [19:34] <Kealper> lol
#4508 [19:34] <Jimi> You wish you were as cool as you?
#4509 [19:34] <Kealper> totally.
#4510 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> how.. meta.
#4511 [19:34] <Jimi> YAY!
#4512 [19:34] <Kealper> lol
#4513 [19:34] <Jimi> Guys, I am making a channel.
#4514 [19:35] <Jimi> For the gmaes I play with you guys.
#4515 [19:35] <Coll> for what reason
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#4517 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> wow, that takes talent. And a slash. And an octothorpe.
#4518 [19:35] <Jimi> Guys, bo to channel GAMES
#4519 [19:35] <Kealper> there was enough sarcasm in that to kill a small animal DopeGhoti lol
#4520 [19:35] <Coll> no
#4521 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> I have a plethora to go 'round.
#4522 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> I like to share :)
#4523 [19:36] <Jimi> Want to play posting games? Join #GAMES today!
#4524 [19:36] <Kealper> lol
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#4526 [19:36] * DopeGhoti is rather surprised that #games wasn't already occupied.
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#4535 [20:39] <Kealper> !reload mod_log
#4536 [20:39] <Kealper> alright...took off the ghettocode, as it didn't work...
#4537 [20:40] <Kealper> i'll just leave it how it is then...
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#4539 [20:42] * Con pokes AuBot
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#4541 [20:43] <Kealper> AuBot doesn't have any arms to poke back
#4542 [20:43] <Kealper> lol
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#4544 [20:44] <Kealper> LOL
#4545 [20:44] <Kealper> literally i laughed out loud at this
#4546 [20:44] <Kealper> http://www.82smugglers.com/blog/?p=8
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#4549 [20:49] <AlRoth> if i can connect to my server local does that mean ppl can connect tcp?
#4550 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Not necessarily
#4551 [20:50] <AlRoth> word
#4552 [20:50] <AlRoth> i take it multi player is all sorts of messed?
#4553 [20:50] <Kealper> indeed
#4554 [20:51] <Kealper> blame beta
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#4557 [20:56] <lolminer> does some1 know why when i connect to my server I get a java.socekecetption error?
#4558 [20:57] <Kealper> lolminer: almost everyone is getting that right now
#4559 [20:57] <AlRoth> yo
#4560 [20:57] <lolminer> why though
#4561 [20:57] <AlRoth> ?
#4562 [20:57] <lolminer> bad updates?
#4563 [20:57] <AlRoth> 76.173.159.250
#4564 [20:57] <Kealper> something with the beta update went horribly awry
#4565 [20:58] <lolminer> hah goes figures
#4566 [20:58] <Kealper> and according to Notch's twitter...it's pretty much fixed, so we just have to wait for Notch to wake up, wrap up stuff with the update and then push it
#4567 [20:59] <lolminer> hmm
#4568 [20:59] <AlRoth> hows this aubot work?
#4569 [20:59] <Kealper> for checking to see if your ports are set up?
#4570 [20:59] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#4571 [20:59] <Kealper> or mot?
#4572 [20:59] <Kealper> not*
#4573 [21:00] <Kealper> oh...fail...1 sec forgot to load that module...
#4574 [21:00] * Kealper fixes module and reloads it
#4574 [21:01] <Kealper> !reload mod_motd
#4575 [21:01] <AlRoth> !check mc.AlRoth.com
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#4577 [21:01] <Kealper> !load mod_motd
#4578 [21:01] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#4579 [21:01] <Kealper> like that
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#4581 [21:01] <AlRoth> !check mc.AlRoth.com
#4582 [21:02] <AlRoth> !check mc.AlRoth.com
#4583 [21:02] <Kealper> uhh...you enter your server's address lol
#4584 [21:02] <Kealper> my server is actually on mc.kealper.com :P
#4585 [21:02] <Kealper> O.o
#4586 [21:02] <Kealper> bug!
#4587 [21:02] <AlRoth> whoops?
#4588 [21:02] <AlRoth> did i break the system?
#4589 [21:03] <Kealper> i just made that a few hours ago, if that is a bug, thank you for finding it lol
#4590 [21:03] <Jim_> !check minemadness.us.to:25565
#4591 [21:03] <Jim_> YAY!
#4592 [21:03] <Kealper> lol
#4593 [21:03] <Jim_> It works!
#4594 [21:03] <Jim_> !check
#4595 [21:03] <Jim_> LOL
#4596 [21:04] <Kealper> i should add some handling for that...lol
#4597 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> !check loopback
#4598 [21:04] <Jim_> !check Kealper
#4599 [21:04] <Kealper> omg grey lol
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#4601 [21:04] <Kealper> !check tartbox-5
#4602 [21:04] <Kealper> oh joy, my computer is on
#4603 [21:05] <Jim_> !check youout
#4604 [21:05] <Jim_> !lookat Kealper
#4605 [21:05] <Kealper> lookat? lol
#4606 [21:05] <Jim_> For looking at people.
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#4609 [21:05] <Jim_> Add !IRCActive
#4610 [21:05] <Kealper> i should make it just action something like "stares at $user"
#4611 [21:06] <Kealper> ircactive?
#4612 [21:06] <Kealper> last seen stuff?
#4613 [21:06] <Jim_> !IRCActive <player> and it responds :<player> is active.
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#4615 [21:06] <Jim_> Or <player> is offline
#4616 [21:06] <Jim_> Or inactive
#4617 [21:06] <Kealper> i dun get the point of that lol
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#4620 [21:07] <Jim_> !lookat Miclee
#4621 [21:07] <Jim_> !check Miclee
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#4623 [21:07] <Jim_> Miclee is a MCServer!
#4624 [21:07] <Kealper> lol
#4625 [21:08] <Jim_> !kill Miclee
#4626 [21:08] <Kealper> he's probably like huh? wtf is going on
#4627 [21:08] <Kealper> !load mod_bot
#4628 [21:08] <Jim_> !love Micle
#4629 [21:08] <Kealper> !stab Jim_
#4630 [21:08] <Kealper> SIGH....
#4631 [21:08] <Jim_> !makeoutwith Miclee
#4632 [21:08] <Kealper> stupid module
#4633 [21:08] <Kealper> o.o
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#4635 [21:08] <Jim_> !makeoutwith Kealper
#4636 [21:09] <Kealper> !chuck
#4637 [21:09] <Kealper> nothing?
#4638 [21:09] <Kealper> guess the parsing must suck on that module
#4639 [21:09] <Jim_> !makeababywith Kealper
#4640 [21:09] <Jim_> !hire Chuck_Norris
#4641 [21:09] <Jim_> D:
#4642 [21:10] <Kealper> !unload mod_bot
#4643 [21:10] <Jim_> Kealper! Take good care of my IRC baby!
#4644 [21:10] <Kealper> XD
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#4646 [21:11] <Kealper> hmm...i should really see why the parsing is flunky on this network....i have not actually looked at the packets :S
#4647 [21:12] <Jim_> !check rice-think.net
#4648 [21:12] <Kealper> i've noticed it tends to parse the channel name as :#channel for some opcodes and #channel for others
#4649 [21:14] <aftoktonian> guys
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#4651 [21:14] <aftoktonian> I keep getting java.io.EOFException
#4652 [21:14] <aftoktonian> on an smp
#4653 [21:14] <Kealper> welcome to the club, come, stay a while!
#4654 [21:14] <AlRoth> !check mc.AlRoth.com
#4655 [21:15] <Kealper> AlRoth: do you actually have a domain called mc.alroth.com? lol
#4656 [21:15] <aftoktonian> oh, everyone gets it.
#4657 [21:15] <aftoktonian> ah well
#4658 [21:15] <AlRoth> ahh shit i get it
#4659 [21:15] <Kealper> lol
#4660 [21:15] <Kealper> you say !check and then the address to your server
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#4662 [21:16] <Kealper> if you do not use the default port (25565) then you would say !check address:port instead of just address
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#4665 [21:16] <AlRoth> !check 76.173.159.250
#4666 [21:16] <AlRoth> hmm
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#4668 [21:16] <Kealper> that means it was able to make a connection with something at your house on 25565
#4669 [21:17] <AlRoth> woot
#4670 [21:17] <AlRoth> so does that mean now that i just gave out my ip my computer is gunna blowed up?
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#4672 [21:17] <Kealper> giving out your ip in this irc network means nothing, we could get it when you joined the channel anyways lol
#4673 [21:18] <AlRoth> true
#4674 [21:18] <AlRoth> i havent been on irc sence the days of the war in the balkins
#4675 [21:18] <Kealper> and this channel is more aimed at helping people instead of flaming and ddosing them
#4676 [21:18] <Kealper> XD
#4677 [21:18] <AlRoth> word
#4678 [21:18] <AlRoth> hmm
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#4681 [21:19] <AlRoth> i wonder why in alpha i didn't have to port forward, but now i do.
#4682 [21:19] <Kealper> O.o
#4683 [21:19] <AlRoth> what ever it works now...
#4684 [21:19] <AlRoth> well thanks brah's for all the wonderfull help
#4685 [21:20] <Kealper> lol np
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#4692 [21:27] <Kealper> ok...
#4693 [21:27] <Kealper> !reload mod_motd
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#4695 [21:27] <Kealper> i should really separate those from the motd thing...or just rename the motd thing
#4696 [21:27] <Kealper> !check
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#4698 [21:28] <Kealper> !check
#4699 [21:28] <Kealper> ok...it can't be fooled by random blank characters stuck at the end of a !check command...lol
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#4701 [21:31] <Jim_> !check yomama
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#4704 [21:32] <Jim_> !check yomammajokememevalidity
#4705 [21:32] <Kealper> it'd be pretty funnt if i made it say the address to be checked in it's reply...but alas, i'm lazy
#4706 [21:32] <mbentley> need to add the server name in your response for sure
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#4708 [21:32] <mbentley> :D
#4709 [21:32] * Kealper sighs
#4709 [21:32] <Kealper> fine. gimme a few sec lol
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#4711 [21:34] <Kealper> !reload mod_motd
#4712 [21:34] <Kealper> !check yomama
#4713 [21:34] <Kealper> better? lol
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#4715 [21:36] <Neko> ELLO
#4716 [21:36] <Neko> :3
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#4718 [21:36] <mbentley> hola
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#4720 [21:37] <mbentley> lol nice Kealper
#4721 [21:37] <Neko> ok so
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#4724 [21:37] <Neko> i think i got my server working finally, can someone join and confirm this for me?
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#4726 [21:37] <Neko> 67.238.9.236
#4727 [21:37] <IceGuest_77> Ha'
#4728 [21:37] <Kealper> !check 67.238.9.236
#4729 [21:37] <IceGuest_77> how do i get my server to work?
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#4731 [21:37] <Kealper> works :3
#4732 [21:37] <Neko> oh, ok xD
#4733 [21:37] <DigDug> i think i have an exploit that may need adressing, and it envolves making more ore and diamonds, no joking around
#4734 [21:37] <IceGuest_77> How do i get my server to work>
#4735 [21:38] * IceGuest_77 is now known as raggi
#4736 [21:38] <mbentley> IceGuest_77: you read the forums
#4737 [21:38] <Kealper> DigDug: confirmed, Notch knows about it and it will get fixed
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#4739 [21:38] <Neko> question: how do I remove the block barrier...on the spawn
#4740 [21:38] <mbentley> Neko: you can't
#4741 [21:38] <Kealper> you don't without mods :S
#4742 [21:38] <mbentley> admins can modify the blocks
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#4744 [21:38] <Neko> aww :/
#4745 [21:38] <DigDug> Kealper i dont know if this is what Notch knows about or not
#4746 [21:38] <Jim_> !check minemadness.us.to:25565
#4747 [21:38] <mbentley> can ops?
#4748 [21:38] <Neko> oh right, i need to do that
#4749 [21:38] <mbentley> i can't remember
#4750 [21:38] <Neko> didnt make myself on op, lol
#4751 [21:38] <Kealper> yes they can
#4752 [21:39] <mbentley> thought so
#4753 [21:39] <Kealper> DigDug: care to explain said method? you can explain in PM if you didn't want to say it in here
#4754 [21:39] <Jim_> !check 66.189.199.163
#4755 [21:39] <DigDug> PM meplz
#4756 [21:39] <Neko> still cant break spawn blocks :/
#4757 [21:39] <Jim_> It should check if the computer or webserver is up also.
#4758 [21:39] <Kealper> Neko: you need to restart after you change ops.txt
#4759 [21:39] <Count> Neko, I'm able to connect to your server
#4760 [21:39] <Count> then I get kicked off
#4761 [21:39] <Neko> thanks :d
#4762 [21:39] <Kealper> Jim_: just supply the port
#4763 [21:40] <Count> with error message
#4764 [21:40] <Neko> oh really?
#4765 [21:40] <Kealper> !check kealper.com:80
#4766 [21:40] <Count> Connection lost
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#4768 [21:40] <Count> Internal exception: java.io.EOFException
#4769 [21:40] <Neko> is that a problem on my side?
#4770 [21:40] <Kealper> Count: many people are getting that error now, just sit tight until Notch fixes it :S
#4771 [21:40] <Count> hell if I know
#4772 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> But your port forwarding works.
#4773 [21:40] <Count> oh, well, there you go
#4774 [21:41] <Neko> hai GreyVulpine !
#4775 [21:41] * GreyVulpine rawrs
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#4776 [21:41] * Neko meows :3
#4776 [21:41] <raggi> okay
#4777 [21:41] <raggi> what do i forward my ports to?
#4778 [21:41] <mbentley> your server
#4779 [21:41] <raggi> :|
#4780 [21:41] <raggi> Obviously...
#4781 [21:41] <mbentley> default mc port is 25565
#4782 [21:42] <Neko> 0.62mbs upload speed
#4783 [21:42] <Neko> hopefully thats enough for a non-laggy server
#4784 [21:43] <mbentley> should be ok for a decent number of people as long as you don't have other services running that require upload
#4785 [21:43] <Neko> awesome :)
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#4788 [21:43] <Neko> whats a good amount of ram?
#4789 [21:43] <Kealper> for what?
#4790 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> You need 20 terabytes of ECC RAM. That should be enough.
#4791 [21:44] <mbentley> for my server with like 6 people max, it can usually doesn't get over 600 mb or so
#4792 [21:44] <Neko> for hosting a server?
#4793 [21:44] <mbentley> at least in the past
#4794 [21:44] <Neko> i hear that you need ram for a non laggy server
#4795 [21:44] <mbentley> not really
#4796 [21:44] <Kealper> Neko: 1 gig allocated to the server itself
#4797 [21:44] <Neko> soo
#4798 [21:45] <Neko> processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II x4 945 processor (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz Memory: 8192MB RAM is good enough?
#4799 [21:45] <Coll> the server needs a gig to run fine? O_o
#4800 [21:45] <Kealper> Neko: that should work :P
#4801 [21:45] <DigDug> i have no clue on how to get my own server
#4802 [21:45] <mbentley> yeah, that is more than enough
#4803 [21:45] <DigDug> is it expensive?
#4804 [21:45] <Neko> having a server is free
#4805 [21:45] <mbentley> i just run mine from my home connection
#4806 [21:45] <Neko> me too
#4807 [21:45] <mbentley> minecraft doesn't require that much bandwidth
#4808 [21:46] <Coll> minecraft eats too much resources for its own good
#4809 [21:46] <DigDug> is there a youtube video that explains it, and can I invite others/
#4810 [21:46] <mbentley> that's because it is java
#4811 [21:46] <mbentley> :)
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#4818 [21:50] <Neko> GreyVulpine: I think my internet runs a bit smoother now
#4819 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#4820 [21:51] <Neko> my server seems to run better
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#4822 [21:53] <mbentley> one thing that i found that helps my server from lagging is putting the world files on a hard drive that isn't used heavily
#4823 [21:53] <Kealper> dedicated 4gb ssd ftw? lol
#4824 [21:54] <Kealper> that...is actually a really good idea....brb while i price hunt
#4825 [21:54] <mbentley> yeah it is
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#4829 [21:54] <mbentley> i have thought about putting my world file in ram but it could definitely cause issues if my server would happen to crash or if i shut it down without stopping minecraft
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#4835 [22:05] <Neko> >.>
#4836 [22:05] <nipper> What's the lowest memory can a minecraft server run on?
#4837 [22:06] <Kealper> 256mb allocated, but that would only hold like 2-3 people
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#4841 [22:07] <nipper> What about a 30man server?
#4842 [22:07] <Neko> does armor work in SMP?
#4843 [22:08] <mbentley> yes
#4844 [22:08] <mbentley> my server uses nearly 300mb at idle
#4845 [22:08] <Kealper> uhh...like 4 gigs?
#4846 [22:08] <nipper> seems a bit high
#4847 [22:09] <Mikau> Okay, instead of leaves decaying, wouldn't it be cooler if they just fell like sand does when the tree trunk gets broken?
#4848 [22:09] <Neko> how much can 8gig ram do?
#4849 [22:09] <mbentley> it isn't set in stone
#4850 [22:09] <Neko> Mikau: no..
#4851 [22:09] <Mikau> Why not?
#4852 [22:10] <Kealper> Mikau: i'd like it if they acted as they do with LeafDropper on
#4853 [22:10] <nipper> Alot would keep dying
#4854 [22:10] <Neko> well, until smp gets fixed i guess I can work on a community center
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#4856 [22:10] <Kealper> where if you cut down the tree, all leaves would be destroyed that the tree was holding up
#4857 [22:10] <Mikau> Since you're talking about a mod that I've never heard of, I'm going to pretend that you says "moogie boogie boo boo!"
#4858 [22:10] <Kealper> lol
#4859 [22:10] <Neko> even with decaying leaves, some leaves still float after all the wood is gone
#4860 [22:12] <DigDug> how can I find my IP number..
#4861 [22:12] <DigDug> sorry for the dumage
#4862 [22:12] <Kealper> http://whatismyip.com
#4863 [22:12] <Neko> ipchicken.com
#4864 [22:12] <Neko> :p
#4865 [22:13] <Con> Mikau: That would be difficult to do
#4866 [22:13] <Con> changing the physics of a block..
#4867 [22:14] <Kealper> implementing that system LeafDropper uses just seems the easiest and the most real....
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#4869 [22:14] <mbentley> i honestly don't give a crap about leaves falling if disabling that functionality solves the "lag"
#4870 [22:14] <mbentley> just sayin
#4871 [22:14] <Kealper> indeed
#4872 [22:15] <mbentley> :)
#4873 [22:15] <Neko> i dont lag..
#4874 [22:15] <Kealper> i don't have a very noticable performance hit either, but many people do
#4875 [22:15] <mbentley> i don't lag either but i am connecting to my own server on my lan. but i can tell it doesn't perform as well as it did before. it is playable, but how long should people just learn to live with it before it becomes an issue?
#4876 [22:15] <Neko> i found a zombie
#4877 [22:15] <Neko> but...it's just a ragdoll
#4878 [22:15] <Kealper> i can tell something is up, since my framerate is lower than usual, but it's still well above 30fps, so it's not noticable
#4879 [22:15] <Neko> sitting in the sunlight
#4880 [22:16] <Neko> i can walk through him >_>
#4881 [22:16] <Kealper> O.o
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#4883 [22:16] <Coll> my frame rate is trasted
#4884 [22:16] <Coll> trashed
#4885 [22:16] <Coll> I get like
#4886 [22:16] <Coll> 10-15
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#4889 [22:16] <mbentley> 10-15 would be painful
#4890 [22:17] <Coll> it is
#4891 [22:17] <Neko> 160-190 FPS on my SMP
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#4893 [22:17] <Kealper> from what it looks like for my fps..it halfed it from this beta update :S
#4894 [22:17] <Neko> i only lagged a bit then it went away
#4895 [22:18] <mbentley> yeah, that seems about right... half drop of fps
#4896 [22:18] <mbentley> riding minecarts around just isn't as smooth
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#4900 [22:19] <robotmafia> Hey, I have a quick question regarding a java error
#4901 [22:20] <robotmafia> anyone active?
#4902 [22:20] <Coll> no irc has 140 people and no ones active
#4903 [22:20] <robotmafia> [:
#4904 [22:20] <mbentley> lol just ask
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#4908 [22:21] <robotmafia> well, I'm using AWS to host a couple servers, one of which runs fine. I have a larger EC2 Instance, and I get a java error
#4909 [22:21] <robotmafia> As soon as I log in, I get booted out
#4910 [22:22] <robotmafia> I'm starting it again right now to get the exact message
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#4912 [22:23] <Neko> skeleton jockey looks so weird in smp >_>
#4913 [22:24] <robotmafia> Ok, "Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset"
#4914 [22:25] <robotmafia> and in my terminal it says '2010-12-22 03:23:20 [INFO] robotmafia lost connection: disconnect.overflow
#4915 [22:25] <robotmafia> '
#4916 [22:25] <mbentley> that is a common error with the beta
#4917 [22:26] <mbentley> i know, crappy explanation but it is common and it is supposed to be fixed by an update tomorrow
#4918 [22:26] <robotmafia> Well, my micro instance runs it fine, and that's only 613MB of RAM and 2 CPU cores. The one that gives me that error is 8 physical cores and 7GB of RAM
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#4920 [22:28] <mbentley> yeah, it seems to be very random
#4921 [22:28] <robotmafia> you think a reinstall would fix it?\
#4922 [22:29] <mbentley> reinstall of minecraft?
#4923 [22:29] <robotmafia> of the server software
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#4925 [22:30] <mbentley> i am wondering if it has something to do with the world files myself
#4926 [22:30] <robotmafia> well, I stay logged in for a second or two with no lag, so I doubt it
#4927 [22:31] <robotmafia> unless it has something to do with chunk loading
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#4930 [22:33] <robotmafia> Maybe it's because my server is running on a VPS that I'm SSH'd into...from an SSH terminal =S
#4931 [22:37] <mbentley> i don't know... i haven't had any complaints about my server not allowing people on
#4932 [22:37] <mbentley> i also started a new map after the halloween update
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#4935 [22:38] <mbentley> it just seems totally random
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#4937 [22:43] <Kealper> dislike zombie pigmen when i'm trying to get my crap back from outside my door >.>
#4938 [22:44] <Miclee> rawr you pinged me by saying pigmen.
#4939 [22:44] <Kealper> omg Miclee lol
#4940 [22:45] <gg_noob> pigmen you say?
#4941 [22:45] <lemon-rev> lol, new server.exe minecraft now it says end of stream , getting better but only 1 min of play time lol
#4942 [22:46] <mbentley> lolwich
#4943 [22:47] <lemon-rev> mc server
#4944 [22:47] <lemon-rev> exe
#4945 [22:47] <lemon-rev> lol
#4946 [22:47] <lemon-rev> still lagging to shit, but ohh
#4947 [22:47] <lemon-rev> now java.i or j o.e0fexecption
#4948 [22:47] <lemon-rev> ohhh
#4949 [22:47] <lemon-rev> but i still need to update these drivers so there digital lol audio
#4950 [22:47] <lemon-rev> gay
#4951 [22:48] <ChemicalRascal> Is the whole preformance issues assosiated with Beta known to be a universal thing, or is it only a few/sub-section of users?
#4952 [22:48] <mbentley> pretty universal imo
#4953 [22:48] <lemon-rev> no i think its majority
#4954 [22:48] <mbentley> those who don't see it are just either have crazy fast computers or don't know better
#4955 [22:49] <ChemicalRascal> Two frames a miniute - It'd be hard not to know better.
#4956 [22:50] <ChemicalRascal> That said, no delivery is painless, as any mother would no doubt say.
#4957 [22:52] * Ronjoe_ is now known as Ronjoe
#4958 [22:55] <Coll> can anyone connect to rizon?
#4959 [22:55] <Kealper> irc network?
#4960 [22:55] <lemon-rev> im connected why
#4961 [22:55] <Kealper> worked for me
#4962 [22:56] <Coll> I cant connect for some reason
#4963 [22:56] <Coll> just cut out on me
#4964 [22:56] <Kealper> hmm...maybe a server went down?
#4965 [22:57] <Coll> except you guys are on
#4966 [22:57] <Kealper> try irc.sxci.net ...it's one that let me on from their network
#4967 [22:58] <Kealper> maybe you are just super unlucky with their roundrobin lol
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#4971 [23:03] <DigDug> anyone here know a good amount about server problems?
#4972 [23:03] <DigDug> or opening a private server
#4973 [23:04] <Kealper> chances are whatever issues you are having are related to the beta update, but what issues are you having?
#4974 [23:04] <DigDug> well i followed the instructions i found on youtube
#4975 [23:04] <DigDug> but when i try to access the server i get a error reporting that java is not a command or something or the other
#4976 [23:05] <Kealper> youtube is never a good place for instructions
#4977 [23:05] <DigDug> well its all i got
#4978 [23:05] <Kealper> bah, i'm all you need when it comes to server help :P
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#4980 [23:05] <Kealper> well...me and grey...and a few others..lol
#4981 [23:05] <mib_japeo7> i need help with installing runecraft
#4982 [23:06] <DigDug> well i will be your best friend if ya know a better way to get it up n going
#4983 [23:06] <mib_japeo7> on a linux computer
#4984 [23:06] <Kealper> mib_japeo7: what did AuBot tell you joined?
#4985 [23:06] <DigDug> windows os
#4986 [23:06] <mib_japeo7> oh
#4987 [23:06] <mib_japeo7> oops
#4988 [23:06] <Kealper> DigDug: first...
#4989 [23:06] <DigDug> vista of all thanfs
#4990 [23:06] <mib_japeo7> UGH
#4991 [23:06] <DigDug> thangs
#4992 [23:06] <mib_japeo7> i thought i could get any sort of help here
#4993 [23:07] <DigDug> and what are the winning power ball numbers, that would help too
#4994 [23:07] <Kealper> lol
#4995 [23:07] <Kealper> 1 sec DigDug, computer acting up
#4996 [23:07] <mib_japeo7> :\
#4997 [23:07] <DigDug> same heree
#4998 [23:07] <mib_japeo7> meh
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#5000 [23:07] <DigDug> i think me server doesnt like me
#5001 [23:08] <kontroll> This alpha rollback thing posted on the forums... it obviously isn't doing me any good since it auto updates every launch.
#5002 [23:08] <DigDug> so hows everyone else?
#5003 [23:08] <kontroll> What can I do about that?
#5004 [23:09] <Kealper> kontroll: you'd have to pirate the game for it to not auto update to the latest version
#5005 [23:09] <Kealper> DigDug: ok, computer is fine again
#5006 [23:09] <DigDug> lol
#5007 [23:09] <DigDug> mkay
#5008 [23:09] <Kealper> first, delete all the files that youtube tut had you download, because there is a huge chance it was wrong
#5009 [23:10] <DigDug> ok one sec
#5010 [23:10] <Kealper> you're doing this for windows right?
#5011 [23:10] <DigDug> ok
#5012 [23:10] <DigDug> done
#5013 [23:10] <DigDug> yes
#5014 [23:10] <Kealper> ok
#5015 [23:10] <Kealper> !server
#5016 [23:10] <Kealper> get the exe
#5017 [23:10] <Kealper> place that in the folder that you want to serve from
#5018 [23:11] <Kealper> run it, it will complain that you don't have some files
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#5021 [23:11] <DigDug> ok
#5022 [23:11] <Kealper> but it will generate the files, so it'll be fine
#5023 [23:11] <Kealper> is it running now?
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#5025 [23:11] <DigDug> its doing something
#5026 [23:11] <kontroll|x> /huff
#5027 [23:11] <kontroll|x> Pulling the cable didn't work either.
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#5029 [23:11] <Kealper> :S
#5030 [23:12] <DigDug> lol kontrol
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#5032 [23:12] <kontroll> Well what the devil.
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#5034 [23:12] <DigDug> ok its says done or help
#5035 [23:12] <Kealper> ok....so it generated the map now?
#5036 [23:13] <DigDug> map?
#5037 [23:13] <Kealper> some spam about preparing spawn area or w/e and then some %
#5038 [23:13] <DigDug> preparing, start region but no map as of yet
#5039 [23:13] <Kealper> well, it won't show the map
#5040 [23:13] <Kealper> if it said done, that means it is ready
#5041 [23:13] <DigDug> ok
#5042 [23:14] <DigDug> its done
#5043 [23:14] <Kealper> do you have port 25565 forwarded to your server?
#5044 [23:14] <DigDug> yes i do
#5045 [23:14] <DigDug> i have al that set up
#5046 [23:14] <Kealper> ok then, you can test to see if you can connect by typing (into this channel) !status and then your external ip
#5047 [23:14] <DigDug> atleast that much was explained, and I saved it
#5048 [23:15] <Kealper> that will make AuBot attempt a connection to your server and tell you if it could connect
#5049 [23:15] <DigDug> use explanation?
#5050 [23:15] <Kealper> like...
#5051 [23:15] <Kealper> wait...!status...fail
#5052 [23:15] <Kealper> half paying attention ftl
#5053 [23:15] <Kealper> !check 67.177.131.104
#5054 [23:16] <Kealper> like that
#5055 [23:16] <DigDug> !status192.168.1.102
#5056 [23:16] <DigDug> nope
#5057 [23:16] <Kealper> no, that is your internal ip
#5058 [23:16] <DigDug> ok one sec
#5059 [23:16] <Kealper> and you also didn't put a space between it...lol
#5060 [23:16] <Kealper> go to http://whatismyip.com to get your external ip
#5061 [23:16] <DigDug> !status71.81.41.131
#5062 [23:17] <Kealper> space, man, space lol
#5063 [23:17] <Kealper> !status 71.81.41.131
#5064 [23:17] <DigDug> !status 71.81.41.131
#5065 [23:17] <Kealper> hmm....probably means that it could not connect if it's taking a few sec...
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#5067 [23:17] <Kealper> are you sure that is your ip?
#5068 [23:17] <DigDug> thats what it says
#5069 [23:18] <Kealper> indeed it is....
#5070 [23:18] <DarkSquire64> hell
#5071 [23:18] <DarkSquire64> thello
#5072 [23:18] <Kealper> you don't have the port set up correctly
#5073 [23:18] <Kealper> hello DarkSquire64
#5074 [23:18] <DigDug> dang
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#5076 [23:18] <DarkSquire64> ti nneed help with the hax
#5077 [23:18] <DigDug> then i shall try again
#5078 [23:18] <DigDug> one sec
#5079 [23:18] <kermi> hey everyone I'm an idiot can someone help me out with the gift codes
#5080 [23:18] <DarkSquire64> kealper
#5081 [23:19] <Kealper> DigDug: check out http://portforward.com there is an ad for something on there, just click skip in the top right corner of the page
#5082 [23:19] <DarkSquire64> everyone i need help getting the hacks
#5083 [23:19] <Kealper> DarkSquire64: this channel does not give support for 3d party software or extensions
#5084 [23:19] <DarkSquire64> :(
#5085 [23:19] <Kealper> get out of here you damn troll
#5086 [23:20] <DigDug> ok one sec
#5087 [23:20] <DarkSquire64> me?
#5088 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes, you.
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#5090 [23:20] <DarkSquire64> srry bye
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#5093 [23:21] <Kealper> !status
#5094 [23:21] <Kealper> !unload mod_motd
#5095 [23:21] <Kealper> !load mod_motd
#5096 [23:22] <kermi> How long does it take for gift codes to appear typically
#5097 [23:22] <Kealper> supposed to be instant
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#5099 [23:23] <kermi> and it's supposed to be on your profile page, right
#5100 [23:23] <Kealper> uhh.....lemme check...lol
#5101 [23:24] <Kealper> yes
#5102 [23:24] <Kealper> it should appear at the bottom of the profile page
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#5104 [23:25] <kermi> well
#5105 [23:25] <kermi> guess I'm gonna wait a while
#5106 [23:25] <kermi> thanks
#5107 [23:25] <Kealper> how long ago did you buy it?
#5108 [23:25] <kermi> not that long, maybe 30 minutes
#5109 [23:25] <Kealper> because some times payments can take a few hours to actually process
#5110 [23:25] <Kealper> and if you are unlucky....up to a day -.-
#5111 [23:26] <kermi> ahhh
#5112 [23:26] <kermi> lame
#5113 [23:26] <Kealper> quite
#5114 [23:26] <CruelNoise> if it's especially busy it can take more
#5115 [23:26] <CruelNoise> yu
#5116 [23:26] <CruelNoise> you should have seen all the people complainging at the halloween update
#5117 [23:26] <CruelNoise> and I'm assuming before beta was released
#5118 [23:26] <kermi> haha
#5119 [23:26] <Kealper> hmm....not sure if i should change my skin or not...it's Doomguy right now >.>
#5120 [23:27] <kermi> thanks guys
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#5122 [23:27] <Kealper> i wonder if they have a decent gordon freeman one
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#5124 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> They do
#5125 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> I used to have a good one
#5126 [23:28] <Zircon_X> Time to get drunk
#5127 [23:28] <CruelNoise> Zircon_X: cool
#5128 [23:28] <Kealper> lol
#5129 [23:28] <Zircon_X> Wait wrong channel, but whatever
#5130 [23:28] <CruelNoise> We always need more drunk people in #minecraft
#5131 [23:28] <Zircon_X> Now you guys know what I'm doing
#5132 [23:28] <CruelNoise> and here
#5133 [23:28] <CruelNoise> and everywhyere
#5134 [23:28] <Zircon_X> Hell yeah
#5135 [23:29] <Zircon_X> Needs more drunk people
#5136 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=GreyVulpine
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#5138 [23:29] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=GreyVulpine i'm lazy
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#5141 [23:30] <Kealper> meh lol
#5142 [23:31] <CruelNoise> what is with the green behind his eyes?
#5143 [23:31] <Kealper> green eyes? lol
#5144 [23:32] <CruelNoise> ...
#5145 [23:32] <CruelNoise> no.
#5146 [23:32] <DigDug> somy internal and external ports have the 25565
#5147 [23:32] <Kealper> O.o
#5148 [23:33] <DigDug> is it suppose to be just internal or external?
#5149 [23:34] <DigDug> better question
#5150 [23:34] <Kealper> uhh....did you follow portforward for your router model?
#5151 [23:34] <DigDug> yeah
#5152 [23:34] <DigDug> and the program failed
#5153 [23:34] <Kealper> did you go down the list of things until you found instructions on setting it up for a minecraft server?
#5154 [23:34] <DigDug> it wont install
#5155 [23:34] <Kealper> -.-
#5156 [23:35] <DigDug> as soon as I click install after DL it, it locks up
#5157 [23:35] <Kealper> i said skip the ad for their crappy software, the skip link is in the top right corner of that page
#5158 [23:35] <DigDug> and closes
#5159 [23:35] <DigDug> i did
#5160 [23:35] <Kealper> what's your router model
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#5162 [23:36] <DigDug> wrt160N
#5163 [23:36] <DigDug> linksys
#5164 [23:36] <Kealper> do you mean WRT610N?
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#5166 [23:38] <Kealper> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Linksys/WRT610N/Minecraft_Server.htm
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#5169 [23:38] <DigDug> yeah the static ip addy program locks up
#5170 [23:38] <Kealper> don't use any sort of programs
#5171 [23:39] <Kealper> just follow that, and if something ever changes, you can just go back and change the address that it forwards to
#5172 [23:39] <DigDug> well i went down the list to minecraft server
#5173 [23:39] <DigDug> and Dl'd it
#5174 [23:39] <DigDug> and still sameproblem
#5175 [23:39] <Kealper> Dl'd what?
#5176 [23:40] <Kealper> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Linksys/WRT610N/Minecraft_Server.htm
#5177 [23:40] <Kealper> click that
#5178 [23:40] <Kealper> follow instructions
#5179 [23:40] <DigDug> lemme look at my AV and see if thats the problem
#5180 [23:40] <kontroll> /groan @ obsidian
#5181 [23:40] <Kealper> you don't need to download any programs to set up forwards, just read that page
#5182 [23:40] <kontroll> Stop being so difficult to mine. -_-
#5183 [23:40] <Kealper> lol
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#5185 [23:41] <DigDug> aaah, now i see says the blind man
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#5187 [23:52] <DigDug> ok that should do it
#5188 [23:53] <DigDug> now what lol
#5189 [23:55] <Kealper> now, you have AuBot test again, to see if it can connect to your server
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#5192 [23:55] <DigDug> !status 192.168.1.102
#5193 [23:56] <DigDug> getting frustrated
#5194 [23:56] <Kealper> you gave the wrong ip, but lemme check something, because it should be responsing
#5195 [23:56] <Kealper> responding*
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#5197 [23:57] <DigDug> !status 71.81.41.131
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#5202 [23:58] <Kealper> hmmmmmm
#5203 [23:58] <Kealper> !check kealper.com
#5204 [23:58] <Kealper> wow...it's just like...ignoring you DigDug lol
#5205 [23:58] <DigDug> good for you,bads for me
#5206 [23:59] <Kealper> works now..but for some reason my bot doesn't like you
#5207 [23:59] <DigDug> my bad