#1 [00:00] <DigDug> what about warning about can't keep up?
#2 [00:00] <Kealper> ok so DigDug you're good to go, i tried to connect with my game and it worked
#3 [00:00] <Kealper> ignore it
#4 [00:00] <DigDug> ok, so iactually did something right
#5 [00:00] <DigDug> ty dude
#6 [00:00] <Kealper> lol
#7 [00:00] <DigDug> now what?
#8 [00:01] <DigDug> just play or is there a way to load the map next blah blah
#9 [00:01] <Kealper> did you have a particular map from single player or something that you wanted to load up on your smp world?
#10 [00:02] <DigDug> i have a worls but anything is good for me just to get the hang of it
#11 [00:02] <DigDug> holy smack it worked!
#12 [00:02] <Kealper> so, you're good now? lol
#13 [00:02] <DigDug> i went into multi and put in my ip
#14 [00:02] <DigDug> and yea
#15 [00:02] <DigDug> i think
#16 [00:03] <DigDug> even though i have never spawned at night
#17 [00:04] <DigDug> until now
#18 [00:04] <Kealper> lol
#19 [00:04] <kontroll> Now where the devil did that creeper come from, and why did it annihilate my ladders out of my shaft?
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#21 [00:04] <Kealper> xD
#22 [00:05] <DigDug> um maybe one more thing
#23 [00:06] <DigDug> i cant tear nothing up, it regenerated to quick, dont see anything i can do in options
#24 [00:07] <Kealper> move away from the spawn point
#25 [00:07] <DigDug> still same thing
#26 [00:07] <Kealper> that is spawn protection, so random people can't just dig a huge hole around the spawn and kill everything
#27 [00:08] <Kealper> you have to move pretty far, it's something like 16m radius around spawn
#28 [00:08] <DigDug> ah ok
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#30 [00:10] <DigDug> sonow if i want to invite ppl all i have to do is gibe the ip?
#31 [00:10] <DigDug> give
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#39 [00:38] <DigDug> everything working good
#40 [00:38] <DigDug> Kealper you daman
#41 [00:38] <Kealper> o.o
#42 [00:38] <DigDug> the man
#43 [00:38] <Kealper> i figured you meant that but why? lol
#44 [00:38] <Kealper> nvm
#45 [00:38] <Kealper> read just above it
#46 [00:38] <DigDug> for the help with the proper web page for the server
#47 [00:39] <Kealper> it's what i'm here for lol
#48 [00:39] <DigDug> well if ya get bored just come on mine and have fun
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#51 [00:39] <Kealper> i'm one of the ones who can't play multiplayer right now due to that disconnect bug :S
#52 [00:39] <whosisthis> hey
#53 [00:40] <Kealper> whosisthis?
#54 [00:40] <DigDug> aaawe
#55 [00:40] <Kealper> ;p;
#56 [00:40] <Kealper> lol*
#57 [00:40] <DigDug> laters all
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#59 [00:40] <soamazzinn> are mod and texture packs not allowed?
#60 [00:40] <Kealper> texture packs are fine as long as they are done through the Mods & Texture Packs part of the game
#61 [00:41] <soamazzinn> is there any good ones that are easy to install? and can they be undone?
#62 [00:41] <DopeGhoti> is you use the build-in method to install them, they can be easily disabled.
#63 [00:41] <Kealper> well, if you get an updated one like Painterly and such, yes...you can just change them with a click of a mouse without even closing the game
#64 [00:42] <soamazzinn> can you point me to one that enhances the game at all?
#65 [00:42] <soamazzinn> or looks nice
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#67 [00:43] <Zenreich> So I've been having disconnect issues for a few days now, since before Beta, where after 10-20 seconds of joining a server, I get severe packet loss and disconnect with a SocketException error
#68 [00:43] <Kealper> http://painterlypack.net/ or http://www.retributiongames.com/quandary/ are two nice ones imo
#69 [00:43] <Zenreich> I'm using Windows XP SP3, no Atheros card
#70 [00:44] <Kealper> Zenreich: same problem most everyone else is having, it's a bug from the beta update
#71 [00:44] <Zenreich> Kealper, read >since before Beta
#72 [00:44] <Kealper> oh
#73 [00:44] <Zenreich> And this issue continues to happen on Alpha
#74 [00:44] <soamazzinn> thanks!
#75 [00:44] <Kealper> on wireless or wired?
#76 [00:44] <Zenreich> Wired
#77 [00:45] <Kealper> are you are sure your internet connection is not wonky?
#78 [00:45] <Kealper> does it do it on all servers? or just the one?
#79 [00:45] <Zenreich> My connection is stable and I download at about 2MB/s. This happens with all servers.
#80 [00:46] <Zenreich> I figured before it was from someone else in the house torrenting, but their computer is off now, so it can't be that
#81 [00:46] <Kealper> then i don't know...probably NIC-related, have you tried it on other computers in your house? or just yours?
#82 [00:46] <Zenreich> Just mine
#83 [00:46] <DopeGhoti> this is kind of out-there, but have you tried OpenJDK Java insteal of Oracle Java?
#84 [00:47] <Zenreich> Hrm
#85 [00:47] <Kealper> is openjdk on windows aswell?
#86 [00:47] <Zenreich> ^
#87 [00:47] <Zenreich> Thats what I'm wondering
#88 [00:47] <DopeGhoti> I.. think so?
#89 [00:47] <Kealper> i thought it was nix only :S
#90 [00:47] <Zenreich> But MC worked fine beforehand, so I don't see what difference it'd make...
#91 [00:47] <Zenreich> But hold up, I'll give it a shot
#92 [00:48] <Kealper> before when? because i think the majority of the nic-related problems started after the halloween update?
#93 [00:48] <Zenreich> Nope.
#94 [00:48] <Zenreich> OpenJDK is linux only
#95 [00:48] <Zenreich> Kealper, just around four days ago
#96 [00:48] <DopeGhoti> actually, I just got a link about revamping the OpenJDK build process
#97 [00:49] <DopeGhoti> so it's on all platforms, they just prepackage only Linux binaries
#98 [00:49] <Zenreich> Hrm
#99 [00:49] <Zenreich> Compiling on windows is a pain in the dick though
#100 [00:49] * DopeGhoti nods
#100 [00:49] <Kealper> lol
#101 [00:49] <DopeGhoti> among other places
#102 [00:50] <Zenreich> I'm going to try running MC on a linux VM
#103 [00:50] <Zenreich> To see if its just my windows install
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#105 [00:51] <Zenreich> I did read that MC has issued with XP SP3... but if that's the case, you'd think alot more people would be affected
#106 [00:52] <Kealper> if your pc can handle it, (i assume it could) i recommend windows 7, i find myself hating xp more and more every day i use 7 :S
#107 [00:52] <kontroll> /sigh
#108 [00:52] <kontroll> Mining without a bucket of water = hazardous.
#109 [00:52] <Kealper> fell in lava and got screwed?
#110 [00:52] <kontroll> Nop.
#111 [00:53] <kontroll> Opened a wall and got sprayed with red water of rage.
#112 [00:53] <Kealper> ouch lol
#113 [00:53] <kontroll> Pretty much my own fault.
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#115 [00:53] <kontroll> I knew it was there, but I was trying to plug the hole to push it back.
#116 [00:54] <DopeGhoti> doesn't magma flow so slow it's impossible not to outrun it?
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#118 [00:54] <Jorc> Anyone here know how to use INVedit??
#119 [00:54] <Kealper> Jorc: what did AuBot tell you?
#120 [00:55] <kontroll> If you want to get the goodie diamonds it's surrounding, you kinda have to wittle away at it, DopeGhoti.
#121 [00:55] <kontroll> Which is what I failed to do.
#122 [00:55] <DopeGhoti> also, Zenreich: I was about to suggest trying a Live CD, but aborted caust is kinda sounded like a PITA :)
#123 [00:55] <Jorc> AuBot?
#124 [00:55] <DopeGhoti> KART35|iPod: true
#125 [00:55] <Zenreich> Kealper, however I question if my computer could handle both W7 AND minecraft
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#127 [00:56] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#128 [00:56] <Kealper> Zenreich: 7 is actually quite easy on computers, if it runs xp and minecraft, it'll probably run 7 and minecraft just fine. do you have more than 1 gig of ram?
#129 [00:56] <Zenreich> Kealper, nope, just a gig.
#130 [00:57] <Kealper> oh, xp is probably the way to go then, 7 does require more ram than xp
#131 [00:57] <Kealper> nothing like that resource hog vista though
#132 [00:57] <DopeGhoti> indeed
#133 [00:57] <DopeGhoti> though
#134 [00:57] <DopeGhoti> all 7 is, is Vista with a partial suckectomy.
#135 [00:57] <Cr0wzah> echo!
#136 [00:57] <Cr0wzah> :p
#137 [00:57] <Cr0wzah> I heard you say that about five hours ago :P
#138 [00:57] <Kealper> suckectomy....lol
#139 [00:58] <Jorc> Kealper, do you have any idea how to use INVedit then?
#140 [00:58] <Zenreich> Jorc, load world file, drag items into inventory, save world file, reload world
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#142 [00:58] <Zenreich> Jorc: If you set an item's count to 255, it'll become infinite use
#143 [00:58] <Kealper> Jorc: this channel is not for help about 3rd party software or addons, so....
#144 [00:58] <Zenreich> Also what he said
#145 [00:58] <DopeGhoti> CruelNoise: it's still true :p
#146 [00:58] <DopeGhoti> erm
#147 [00:59] <Jorc> Zenreich, where do I save the world file to?
#148 [00:59] <DopeGhoti> ah, cr0wz left, hence tabfail
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#150 [00:59] <CruelNoise> DopeGhoti: heh
#151 [00:59] <Zenreich> Jorc, click the arrow next to the save button and pick a world
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#155 [01:08] <kontroll> Is it worth making armor of gold?
#156 [01:08] <kontroll> Ie. is it better than iron?
#157 [01:08] <DopeGhoti> in no way
#158 [01:08] <DopeGhoti> it's as durable as wood
#159 [01:08] <kontroll> /nod
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#161 [01:09] <kontroll> In other games, rarer = better. :P
#162 [01:09] <kontroll> :)
#163 [01:09] <Zenreich> Is gold actually good for much then?
#164 [01:09] <DopeGhoti> ..watches?
#165 [01:09] <DopeGhoti> and decoration via blocks.
#166 [01:09] <DopeGhoti> other than that, no, not really
#167 [01:09] <bTOhno> im having a bunch of people on my server getting an overflow error...any fix for this?
#168 [01:10] <DopeGhoti> bTOhno: sadly, the 'fix' is 'wait for an update'
#169 [01:10] <bTOhno> so its not just my server right?
#170 [01:10] <DopeGhoti> not remotely
#171 [01:10] <bTOhno> im the only one not getting this error is why i was worried
#172 [01:10] <DopeGhoti> some folks have gotten lucky
#173 [01:10] <kontroll> Yes, actually. Remotely.
#174 [01:10] <kontroll> ;D
#175 [01:10] <DopeGhoti> but others can't connect for more than a few seconds
#176 [01:10] <bTOhno> exactly
#177 [01:10] <DopeGhoti> kontroll: *snrk*
#178 [01:11] <bTOhno> i have a bunch of friends who cant connect but me and one other friend can stay connected for hours
#179 [01:11] <bTOhno> without lag or anything
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#181 [01:12] <bTOhno> sigh i have friends who say roll your stuff back to alpha
#182 [01:12] <bTOhno> its a good idea but kinda...well inconvientent
#183 [01:12] <kontroll> Have to roll the server back too.
#184 [01:12] <bTOhno> mhmm
#185 [01:13] <Zenreich> bTOhno, roll your stuff back to alpha
#186 [01:13] <kontroll> And not be able to connect to the webses.
#187 [01:13] <Zenreich> That's what I did
#188 [01:13] <Zenreich> I've got the alpha server file if you want it
#189 [01:13] <Zenreich> Saves you an hour of searching
#190 [01:13] <bTOhno> are the world compatible still?
#191 [01:13] <bTOhno> like world from alpha and beta work good together?
#192 [01:13] <DopeGhoti> yes
#193 [01:13] <bTOhno> ok good...now i just need to find the alpha stuff
#194 [01:13] <bTOhno> lol
#195 [01:14] <Zenreich> I have the alpha stufff :V
#196 [01:14] <bTOhno> Zenreich yes please
#197 [01:14] <bTOhno> lol
#198 [01:14] <Zenreich> one sec
#199 [01:14] <bTOhno> i need the client too if you have that
#200 [01:15] <Zenreich> See PMs
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#210 [01:45] <fork> having minecraft connection issues still
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#212 [01:46] <fork> saying disconnect.overflow in the server console
#213 [01:46] <fork> not sure what the client end says yet
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#217 [01:50] <Mathuin> I am looking for a server where I can play Minecraft. Something that's not completely empty but isn't so busy that all the resources are used up. Someplace I can explore, and make a little home. Any suggestions? (I tried asking in #minecraft but that place is chaos at the moment. :-)
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#219 [01:51] <fogWork> Try #SMP
#220 [01:51] <Mathuin> Is that an IRC channel on this server?
#221 [01:51] <fork> internal exception: java.io.EOFException
#222 [01:51] <fork> is what clients connecting to my server are getting
#223 [01:51] <fogWork> It is, Mathuin
#224 [01:51] <Mathuin> fogWork: thanks!
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#234 [02:10] <Slashex> just gonna check here too
#235 [02:11] <Slashex> My friend gifted me minecraft, and I'm not sure if its alpha or beta, and I really don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth
#236 [02:11] <Slashex> is there any way to check when he bought the key
#237 [02:11] <Slashex> or if I'm alpha/beta
#238 [02:12] <feenyx> yes, ask your friend :D
#239 [02:13] <feenyx> or just toss an email over to support@mojang.com
#240 [02:13] <fork> oh good idea
#241 [02:13] <fork> ill email a nice 'WHY IS THIS NOT WORKING'
#242 [02:13] <Kealper> xD
#243 [02:13] <whosisthis> hey guys im using mcmyadmin
#244 [02:14] <Kealper> AuBot has something to tell you
#245 [02:14] <Slashex> thanks worth a shot
#246 [02:14] <whosisthis> and my server was working fine just running from the default exe but when i run with mcmyadmin noone can connect its the same files and same port
#247 [02:15] <whosisthis> hey mathuin
#248 [02:15] <Mathuin> whosisthis: hello there!
#249 [02:15] <DopeGhoti> whosisthis: so when you run the released actual Minecraft, things are OK, and when you run an unsupported mod, it doesn't work?
#250 [02:15] <DopeGhoti> sorry, it's unsupported.
#251 [02:16] <whosisthis> lol
#252 [02:16] <whosisthis> isnt this the help forum, the mod is supplied in the mc forums
#253 [02:16] <Kealper> whosisthis: type /topic #MineCraftHelp
#254 [02:16] <whosisthis> :/
#255 [02:16] <Mathuin> Were it me, I'd talk to the maintainer of MCMyAdmin and see if they had updated the mod to support beta.
#256 [02:16] <whosisthis> ok
#257 [02:16] <whosisthis> mathuin i run a server ur welcome on
#258 [02:16] <Kealper> send a message to the user PhonicUK in this irc
#259 [02:17] <DopeGhoti> this is #minecrafthelp, not #minecraftthirdpartymodsthatarenotmademymojanghelp
#260 [02:17] <Kealper> he's the guy who makes/maintains McMyAdmin
#261 [02:17] <Mathuin> whosisthis: thanks!
#262 [02:17] <kontroll> If I build a bigger portal, say with a base 5 wide, will it still work?
#263 [02:18] <Kealper> n
#264 [02:18] <Kealper> no
#265 [02:18] <kontroll> Fork.
#266 [02:18] <fork> ?
#267 [02:18] <Kealper> Spoon.
#268 [02:18] <kontroll> lol
#269 [02:18] <kontroll> Not you, fork.
#270 [02:18] <kontroll> I just didn't feel like saying "fuck".
#271 [02:18] <Kealper> lol
#272 [02:18] <fork> :|
#273 [02:18] <fork> fucker.
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#275 [02:19] <Kealper> forker.
#276 [02:20] <fogWork> Morning Kealper ;)
#277 [02:20] <Kealper> this game i play..called Silkroad...makes me angry
#278 [02:20] <Kealper> ello fog lol
#279 [02:20] <fogWork> I think my sister plays silkroad... she's a girl
#280 [02:20] <fogWork> Playing a girls game
#281 [02:20] <Kealper> ouch
#282 [02:20] <Kealper> lol
#283 [02:20] <Kealper> i won't be playing this anymore anyways
#284 [02:20] <fogWork> ;)
#285 [02:21] <Kealper> they limited the connection limit to 2 per ip
#286 [02:21] <Kealper> for the usa only
#287 [02:21] <Kealper> all other countries are at 30
#288 [02:21] <Kealper> they did this to stop the chinese goldbots....
#289 [02:21] <Kealper> not sure how screwing over the people with the most money to spend on their shitty game stops goldbots in china, but hey, whatever
#290 [02:22] <fogWork> Hard to find any decent online games ;P
#291 [02:22] <DopeGhoti> hay, you're not playing their crappy game anymore, so it's win-win right?
#292 [02:22] <Kealper> so out of spite...i'll sell all my stuff on my characters for ingame gold..then sell said ingame gold to the chinese gold companies that they tried to stop in the first place...
#293 [02:22] <feenyx> they kinda shot themselves in the foot there
#294 [02:22] <Kealper> and get like $200 out of it....
#295 [02:22] <Kealper> quite
#296 [02:23] <Kealper> i get a nice paycheck for leaving the game, and they lose tons of money
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#298 [02:24] <Kealper> i just don't see why they thought that was a good idea...think of all the net cafes and college campuses who use a single ip for the whole stock...
#299 [02:24] <bTOhno> urgh
#300 [02:25] <Kealper> urgh?
#301 [02:25] <bTOhno> is there anyway to log in offline with a username?
#302 [02:25] <bTOhno> so have a name other then player
#303 [02:25] <Kealper> nope
#304 [02:25] <bTOhno> because im rolling back to alpha til beta is fixed
#305 [02:25] <bTOhno> and everyone is logging on as player...
#306 [02:25] <bTOhno> lol
#307 [02:25] <Kealper> lol
#308 [02:25] <bTOhno> so its kicking the other people off
#309 [02:26] <username17> Anyone know what the line is that you add to change a SMP server to sql from flatfile? It's not in server.properties by default.
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#311 [02:26] <Kealper> username17: because that's part of hMod
#312 [02:26] <username17> huh?
#313 [02:26] <bTOhno> hMod is a modded server file
#314 [02:27] <bTOhno> it allows for plugins and among other things
#315 [02:27] <Kealper> you can't use sql without modding the server
#316 [02:27] <username17> SQL is only available with hmod? I didnt realize that
#317 [02:27] <bTOhno> mhmm
#318 [02:27] <username17> Thanks
#319 [02:27] <bTOhno> kinda wish notch would add some of the hmod stuff in default
#320 [02:27] <bTOhno> it would be nice
#321 [02:28] <bTOhno> like adding the warp stuff ya know?
#322 [02:29] <username17> I just wanted to improve performance. Will wait for an update. Thanks
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#324 [02:29] <Kealper> the thing i wish he would add most is commands to get player coords and warp players to coords
#325 [02:30] <Kealper> it could make vanilla server wrappers much more powerful
#326 [02:32] <username17> yah one thing I did with hmod was copied homes.txt to warps.txt. Server is pretty tight knot so it's nice to port to each others houses
#327 [02:32] <Kealper> lol
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#329 [02:38] <Deminetix> Hey peeps
#330 [02:38] <Kealper> rawr
#331 [02:38] <Deminetix> ^.^
#332 [02:39] <kontroll> I blink.
#333 [02:39] <kontroll> http://www.minecraftskins.com/api.php?mode=preview&type=both&id=20819
#334 [02:39] <kontroll> Will that skin be armless?
#335 [02:39] <Kealper> Image `20819` doesn't exist
#336 [02:39] <kontroll> Well crap.
#337 [02:39] <kontroll> I checked it before I linked. Sec.
#338 [02:40] <Deminetix> Does anyone know what kind of connection speed is required to play on a beta SMP server without jittering monsters and players? Every server i have tried is shockingly laggy
#339 [02:40] <Kealper> not sure if it's just me or what, but the skindex has been screwing up in all 7 levels of fail today
#340 [02:40] <kontroll> It was a bit borky before.
#341 [02:40] <kontroll> Not much. :P
#342 [02:40] <kontroll> http://dlxmedia.net/api.php.png
#343 [02:40] <kontroll> There.
#344 [02:40] <Kealper> Deminetix: what sort of speed do you get?
#345 [02:40] <kontroll> Or not.
#346 [02:40] <kontroll> /sigh
#347 [02:40] <Kealper> lol
#348 [02:40] <kontroll> http://dlxmedia.net/api.png
#349 [02:41] <username17> Deminetix, dont judge servers as they are now. SMP is quite broken. Wait till it's fixed, then try again.
#350 [02:41] <Kealper> i thnk the arms are clear textures on that
#351 [02:41] <kontroll> Ie. transparent ingame?
#352 [02:41] <Kealper> so it should actually show up as a creeper
#353 [02:41] <kontroll> That would... mmmm.
#354 [02:41] <Kealper> yea
#355 [02:41] <kontroll> I'm going to scare the crap out of my friend then.
#356 [02:41] <Kealper> lol
#357 [02:41] <kontroll> When the servers start working properly again.
#358 [02:42] <Kealper> whenever Notch fixes it
#359 [02:42] <kontroll> /nod
#360 [02:42] <kontroll> Until then... my dark portal will have my full attention.
#361 [02:42] <kontroll> Well. The back of it. I finished the front. :P
#362 [02:42] <Kealper> lol
#363 [02:42] <kontroll> And I kinda veered off the dark portal look to just a portal platform.
#364 [02:42] <kontroll> BUT STILL.
#365 [02:43] <kontroll> http://dlxmedia.net/purtul.jpg
#366 [02:43] <Kealper> meh lol
#367 [02:43] <kontroll> Before you ask... the platform was 1 block too wide to accomodate a centered single portal. Mid-construction changes = HURF.
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#369 [02:43] <Kealper> needs more netherstone and steps lol
#370 [02:43] <Kealper> lol
#371 [02:44] <kontroll> Netherstone? Hm hm.
#372 [02:44] <Deminetix> @Kealper 160KBPS
#373 [02:44] <Deminetix> How do you whisper? lol
#374 [02:44] <kontroll> Oh, that just looks like dirty dirt.
#375 [02:44] <kontroll> :P
#376 [02:44] <Kealper> /msg Kealper some message lol
#377 [02:44] <Deminetix> :D
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#379 [02:45] <Kealper> iono....i would assume that should be able to handle just playing on another server
#380 [02:45] <Kealper> not hosting your own though
#381 [02:45] <Kealper> but right now smp is buggy as crap, so give it a few days lol
#382 [02:45] <kontroll> Oh... that fire thing makes me laugh.
#383 [02:46] <kontroll> I was showing the buddy how to clear leaves easily before.
#384 [02:46] <kontroll> And set fire to our plantation.
#385 [02:46] <Kealper> lol
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#387 [02:47] <Deminetix> What sort of connection are people playing SMP happily with monsters turned on?
#388 [02:47] <feenyx> erm
#389 [02:47] <feenyx> 30/30
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#391 [02:47] <Kealper> 24/8
#392 [02:47] <feenyx> so I'm not really in a position to speak :p
#393 [02:48] <Kealper> i wish i had 30 up lol
#394 [02:48] <feenyx> I slapped my friend with my Diamond sword yesterday though, instagibbed him
#395 [02:48] <Kealper> +10 for using instagib
#396 [02:48] <feenyx> ^^
#397 [02:48] <Kealper> -10 for anyone who doesn't know
#398 [02:49] <fogWork> There's always loss for people living over the atlantic, which is a shame ;/
#399 [02:49] <Slashex> so I emailed support to ask if my account gift key was beta or alpha, how long do they usually take to respond
#400 [02:49] <Kealper> eh?
#401 [02:49] <Slashex> a few days?
#402 [02:49] <Kealper> Slashex: i'd say about a day
#403 [02:50] <Slashex> aight thanks
#404 [02:50] <Slashex> i'd just ask my friend but
#405 [02:50] <Slashex> I'd feel like a jerk
#406 [02:50] <feenyx> a day seems fair, they have a rather large customer base for such a small company
#407 [02:50] <Deminetix> I meant upload/download speed, not bandwidth
#408 [02:50] <Slashex> and by friend I mean guy that I traded tf2 hats to
#409 [02:50] <Slashex> and by feel like a jerk I mean confirm our agreement
#410 [02:51] <fogWork> A single person on the server abuses a few bytes to 5kb/s upload while idle, at least in alpha
#411 [02:51] <fogWork> With bursts up to 300kb/s+ while running like a madman hitting stuff ;P
#412 [02:51] <feenyx> I'd calculate with atleast 150kb/s per player though
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#414 [02:51] <feenyx> possibly more since, well, it's still beta and buggy :p
#415 [02:52] <Kealper> i've seen people on mine us an average of 10KB/person if they just play tamely and don't tnt
#416 [02:52] <Kealper> per sec, that is
#417 [02:52] <Deminetix> So in order for me to play on a server with 10 people, id need a massive download/upload speed?
#418 [02:52] <Kealper> you mean play, or host one?
#419 [02:52] <Deminetix> play
#420 [02:52] <Kealper> your internet should be fine for that
#421 [02:52] <Kealper> we were talking about hosting
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#423 [02:53] <Deminetix> But i find with my internet that players are "jerky" and monsters kill me before i have a chance... but other people on those servers seem to be playing it fine
#424 [02:53] <feenyx> not that I've tried, but you could probably even play over dialup
#425 [02:54] <Slashex> is it against the rules to punch people into creepers
#426 [02:54] <Deminetix> lol
#427 [02:54] <Kealper> Deminetix: you might have super high latency to the server that you play on then
#428 [02:54] <Kealper> or it could just be the server itself being crappy
#429 [02:54] <feenyx> it may or may not also be a matter of your computer
#430 [02:54] <Kealper> Slashex: depends if they are friend or foe
#431 [02:54] <Kealper> what he said
#432 [02:54] <feenyx> you should try another server(s)
#433 [02:55] <Slashex> what if I just do it to everyone
#434 [02:55] <feenyx> to compare
#435 [02:55] <Deminetix> I have tried about 10 :(
#436 [02:55] <feenyx> Slashex: but generalization is bad, too
#437 [02:55] <Deminetix> Can i ping a server to see how many ms?
#438 [02:55] <feenyx> Deminetix: in that case, what's your computer specs?
#439 [02:55] <feenyx> yes
#440 [02:55] <feenyx> open CMD
#441 [02:55] <feenyx> type "ping IPADDRESSGOESHERE"
#442 [02:56] <feenyx> the ping results will show how many millisecs it takes to get a reply
#443 [02:58] <Deminetix> I couldnt ping the server with the port, only without the port
#444 [02:58] <Count> shit, 200ms ping
#445 [02:58] <Deminetix> without the port, i get 276ms
#446 [02:58] <Count> I'm on wifi though, so that's part of it
#447 [02:58] <Kealper> Deminetix: just to use as a control: ping google.com
#448 [02:59] <Count> in alaska though, so that's 3/4s of it
#449 [02:59] <Kealper> lol
#450 [02:59] <Count> 123 for google
#451 [02:59] <Count> TF2, if I'm really lucky, I'll get like 120 ms on a Seattle server
#452 [02:59] <Kealper> amazing! my ping says <1 for the server i play on!
#453 [02:59] <Deminetix> Is the server localhost? lol
#454 [02:59] <Kealper> mahbeh
#455 [03:00] <Deminetix> :P
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#457 [03:00] <Sev> Hey :D
#458 [03:00] <Kealper> ello
#459 [03:00] <Sev> I wanted to ask a few questions about SMP servers
#460 [03:00] <Kealper> ask away
#461 [03:01] <Sev> I have one setup
#462 [03:01] <Sev> I've been working several days on it
#463 [03:01] <Sev> but I can't get it to work for my friends
#464 [03:01] <Sev> my brother can connect perfectly on our network
#465 [03:01] <Sev> but my friends can't
#466 [03:01] <Sev> any ideas?
#467 [03:01] <Deminetix> your brother is connecting locally?
#468 [03:02] <Kealper> your friend are using the wrong IP
#469 [03:02] <feenyx> Sev: are your friends on the same network?
#470 [03:02] <Kealper> friends*
#471 [03:02] <feenyx> 52ms reply from google.com here at work
#472 [03:02] <Deminetix> If your friends are outside your IP, then have you enabled port forwarding?
#473 [03:02] <Sev> no they're at their own homes
#474 [03:02] <feenyx> not bad at all
#475 [03:02] <feenyx> Sev: in that case, they need to use the ip address you get from www.whatsmyip.com
#476 [03:02] <feenyx> and you need to forward a port in your DSL router
#477 [03:03] <feenyx> www.portforward.com probably has a model/make-specific guide for your particular one
#478 [03:03] <Sev> ok I tried forwarding a port
#479 [03:03] <Deminetix> Setting up the forwarding on your router isnt too hard either
#480 [03:03] <Sev> yes i used that
#481 [03:03] <feenyx> good good
#482 [03:03] <Sev> I tried it on my mac
#483 [03:03] <Deminetix> And does your server have a static internal IP?
#484 [03:03] <Sev> it didn't work
#485 [03:03] <feenyx> and you can always test with http://vaevictus.net/minecraft/
#486 [03:04] <feenyx> just put your external IP address in there and test
#487 [03:04] <Sev> ok
#488 [03:04] <Sev> i tried it on my pc and i made it into a static ip with the info on portforward.com
#489 [03:05] <Sev> BUT now on my mac I'm trying to use an app called port map
#490 [03:05] <feenyx> your brother probably types 192.168.something.something to connect
#491 [03:05] <Sev> yes
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#493 [03:05] <feenyx> your friends need to type 99.254.41.68
#494 [03:05] <Deminetix> So the computer you run the host on should have a static internal IP like: 192.168.0.66 > Then the router should forward all requests to the minecraft port (is it 25565 or something?) > And your friends will connect to yoru server with your external IP at whatsmyip.com) but append the port, for example: 203.68.217.8:25565
#495 [03:05] <feenyx> it's 25565
#496 [03:06] <Sev> yes
#497 [03:06] <feenyx> you don't need to append the port so long as its set to the default one
#498 [03:06] <feenyx> the client knows :)
#499 [03:06] <Sev> ok
#500 [03:06] <Sev> but about the port forwarding
#501 [03:06] <feenyx> yes
#502 [03:06] <feenyx> Did you login to the router to do the forwarding?
#503 [03:06] <Sev> can i send pics in irc?
#504 [03:07] <Sev> yes
#505 [03:07] <Sev> i did log in
#506 [03:07] <feenyx> just dump them on imgurl or something
#507 [03:07] <Sev> ok
#508 [03:07] <Sev> 1 sec then
#509 [03:08] <feenyx> What you need to to in the router, is make a portforwarding rule that basically tells the router that IF something tries to connect to you on port 25565 (default MC server port), it forwards those requests to your computer, so you need to specify your computers IP address in there too
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#511 [03:12] <Sev> got it
#512 [03:12] <Deminetix> http://imgur.com/mhEWb.png
#513 [03:12] <Deminetix> thats how my router is set up
#514 [03:12] <Deminetix> i had to add the Minecraft as a service as well
#515 [03:12] <Sev> http://imgur.com/a/nDErf the first one is the app "port map" and the second is my routers setup
#516 [03:13] <Deminetix> why is the public port 25567
#517 [03:14] <Sev> i dunno it does that automatically
#518 [03:14] <Sev> not an option...
#519 [03:14] <Deminetix> and the private IP on the map is *.104 and it declares *.105 on the router setup
#520 [03:15] <feenyx> seems a bit odd
#521 [03:16] <Sev> yup this is why I'm so confused :(
#522 [03:16] <feenyx> the setting in your router obviously needs to forward the port to the correct IP address of the computer you run the server on
#523 [03:16] <Sev> oh one thing though
#524 [03:16] <Deminetix> Im on windows so this is... different... lol
#525 [03:16] <Sev> my ip tends to change occasionally
#526 [03:16] <Deminetix> Which one? the DHCP?
#527 [03:16] <Sev> this morning it was *.102
#528 [03:17] <Sev> then it was *.105
#529 [03:17] <feenyx> my setup looks like this: http://imgur.com/xN2l2.jpg
#530 [03:17] <Deminetix> The one your ISP assigns you or the 192.168.0. one
#531 [03:17] <Sev> the internal ip
#532 [03:17] <Deminetix> You havent made is static yet
#533 [03:17] <Deminetix> it*
#534 [03:17] <Deminetix> It needs to be static
#535 [03:17] <feenyx> you should make your computers IP a static one
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#537 [03:17] <Sev> maybe i only did that downstairs
#538 [03:18] <Sev> how would I do that on a mac?
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#540 [03:18] <feenyx> that's a fairly obvious reason why it wouldn't work, anyway :)
#541 [03:18] <Deminetix> *shrug* rofl, i have detailed instructions for windows though
#542 [03:18] <Deminetix> lol
#543 [03:18] <feenyx> http://homepage.mac.com/car1son/static_port_fwd_staticip.html
#544 [03:18] <Deminetix> Good luck with that anyways Sev, thanks for your help before everyone else
#545 [03:18] <Deminetix> Seeya
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#547 [03:19] <feenyx> or http://lmgtfy.com/?q=set+static+ip+on+mac
#548 [03:20] <Sev> thanks feenyx :P it's 3am here and my brains not functioning
#549 [03:22] <Sev> also guys, what should I write for the ip in server.properites?
#550 [03:22] <username17> nothing
#551 [03:22] <Sev> *properties
#552 [03:22] <Sev> nothing?
#553 [03:22] <Sev> ok ;P
#554 [03:23] <username17> yep, dont need to hard code it
#555 [03:24] <Sev> you guys are the greatest
#556 [03:24] <Sev> been waiting days for an answer on the forums D:
#557 [03:27] <feenyx> there's almost always someone here in a timezone near you
#558 [03:27] <Sev> I'm in toronto
#559 [03:28] <Sev> :P
#560 [03:28] <Sev> canada
#561 [03:28] <Miclee> WOoo Canada
#562 [03:28] <Sev> ahha Yayy fellow canadians!
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#565 [03:29] <feenyx> <- Norway
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#567 [03:29] <feenyx> so it's morning here, and I'm at work. What better way to spend a wednesday than in #MineCraftHelp ?
#568 [03:30] <Sev> I'm going to the movies with my girlfriend at 4:55
#569 [03:30] <kontroll> feenyx: Get me a job like that! :P
#570 [03:31] <kontroll> Also; what do you work with when you do work? ;D
#571 [03:33] <fogWork> Norweigan eh? HOWDY NEIGHBOUR!
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#573 [03:34] <feenyx> fogWork: "Tjena" or "Davs?"
#574 [03:34] <fogWork> Tjena, hall�, hej :P
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#576 [03:35] <Sev> I'm back
#577 [03:35] <Sev> I tried to change my ip to a static one in this case *.77
#578 [03:36] <Sev> instead of *.100
#579 [03:36] <Sev> and it didn't work at all
#580 [03:36] <fork> nothing works
#581 [03:36] <fork> they broke it
#582 [03:36] <Sev> I couldn't connect to the internet :(
#583 [03:36] <feenyx> Sev: did you also modify the portforward rule to use .77 ?
#584 [03:36] <Sev> in my router settings?
#585 [03:36] <feenyx> Sev: yes
#586 [03:37] <feenyx> the router needs to forward the port (25565) to your computer IP (.77)
#587 [03:37] <Sev> I don't think so...
#588 [03:37] <Sev> it didn't say anything in the tutorial i used
#589 [03:38] <Sev> I don't know what to do :(
#590 [03:38] <feenyx> think of it like a highway system. If you're going to a specific city, you're gonna want to take a specific road. Portforwarding is pretty similar, metaphorically speaking, to putting up a road sign saying "To get to City A, take this road"
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#592 [03:39] <fogWork> Unless you're female
#593 [03:39] * fogWork hides
#593 [03:39] <feenyx> ahaha
#594 [03:39] <Sev> ahaha nice
#595 [03:39] <Sev> but ok
#596 [03:40] <Sev> this wouldn't be under virtual server though...
#597 [03:40] <feenyx> depends on the router
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#599 [03:40] <feenyx> there are some weird pseudonyms for "port forward" out there
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#602 [03:41] <nipper> How much bandwidth would a server use for a 30man server?
#603 [03:41] <Sev> does anyone who knows about this have a dlink?
#604 [03:41] <feenyx> nipper: I'd recommend atleast 6/6
#605 [03:41] <feenyx> mbps
#606 [03:41] <feenyx> Sev: I do
#607 [03:41] <feenyx> see the image I posted earlier?
#608 [03:42] <Sev> no... my internet crashed and I had to restart the irc
#609 [03:42] <feenyx> ah
#610 [03:42] <Sev> it might be in my history though...
#611 [03:42] <feenyx> my setup looks like this: http://imgur.com/xN2l2.jpg
#612 [03:42] <feenyx> was what I said
#613 [03:43] <Sev> ahah that's the one i was just about to send you
#614 [03:43] <feenyx> yeah
#615 [03:43] <feenyx> Advanced -> Port Forwarding
#616 [03:43] <feenyx> it's right udner Virtual Server
#617 [03:43] <feenyx> under*
#618 [03:44] <feenyx> just replace 10.4.0.10 with 192.168.1.77 (if that's your computers IP)
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#620 [03:44] <Sev> wait it's under advanced?
#621 [03:45] <Sev> all i have is virtual server, applications, filters, firewall, DMZ, performace and zonealarm
#622 [03:46] <Sev> anyone?
#623 [03:46] <feenyx> what model is your dlink?
#624 [03:46] <Sev> DI-524
#625 [03:47] <fogWork> Mm, no updates to pfsense or m0n0wall in ages ;/
#626 [03:47] <feenyx> oh, oldie one. Been awhile since I configured one of those, hang on though
#627 [03:48] <Sev> ok I've been trying to get my parents to buy a new one for ages, hopefully for christmas :P
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#629 [03:49] <Sev> and i'm 13 so dont go thinking i have no life :P
#630 [03:49] <fogWork> Back when I was young, routers werent on the christmas list ;P
#631 [03:49] <feenyx> Sev: http://imgur.com/Xg7Ma.jpg
#632 [03:49] <Sev> ahaha fogwork
#633 [03:50] <feenyx> fogWork: now I'm older, they still aren't, because I just buy what I need when/if I need it :p
#634 [03:50] <fogWork> Same here :P
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#636 [03:50] <feenyx> Sev: that picture make more sense to you?
#637 [03:50] <Sev> yes can I send you one of my current setup?
#638 [03:51] <Sev> just to make sure
#639 [03:51] <feenyx> ofcourse
#640 [03:51] <feenyx> imgur to the rescue
#641 [03:51] <feenyx> I should make a very graphic port forwarding tutorial/explanation thingy
#642 [03:52] <feenyx> one my mother could use
#643 [03:52] <Sev> http://i.imgur.com/w4Bmp.png
#644 [03:52] <feenyx> however, I'm at work, and duty calls, so it'll have to wait
#645 [03:52] <feenyx> Sev: if your computers IP is indeed 0.105, then that's correct, but you also need port 25565 in both the fields
#646 [03:53] <feenyx> you have 25568 in one of them
#647 [03:53] <Sev> i thought i changed that :P
#648 [03:54] <Sev> oh but that's the problem I don't have a static ip
#649 [03:54] <Sev> so it always changes :P
#650 [03:54] <feenyx> http://homepage.mac.com/car1son/static_port_fwd_staticip.html
#651 [03:54] <feenyx> set a static one :)
#652 [03:55] <feenyx> for your computer, obviously
#653 [03:55] <feenyx> not for your internet connection
#654 [03:55] <Sev> I did just before
#655 [03:55] <feenyx> if you were confused
#656 [03:55] <Sev> but it didn't let me connect at all
#657 [03:55] <Sev> that's why my internet crashed
#658 [03:55] <feenyx> it usually does when you set a static IP
#659 [03:56] <feenyx> you also have to set subnet mask, gateway and DNS settings for your network card
#660 [03:56] <Sev> network card?
#661 [03:56] <feenyx> basically what you'd see if you did "ipconfig" on a windows box
#662 [03:56] <Sev> ok
#663 [03:56] <Sev> here 1 more sec
#664 [03:57] <feenyx> Sev: basically, the first two pictures in http://homepage.mac.com/car1son/static_port_fwd_staticip.html
#665 [03:57] <Sev> ye
#666 [03:57] <feenyx> show how to configure your computer to always use the same address
#667 [03:57] <feenyx> just make sure the IP you use there, matches the one set in your port forwarding rule on your router
#668 [03:57] <feenyx> and you should be golden
#669 [03:58] <Sev> here's what I have atm
#670 [03:58] <Sev> http://i.imgur.com/Yb03O.png
#671 [03:58] <feenyx> change it to Manual
#672 [03:58] <feenyx> instead of DHCP
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#674 [03:58] <feenyx> set to 192.168.0.77
#675 [03:59] <Smargoos> anyone here?
#676 [03:59] <feenyx> then change the rule in your router to point port 25565 towards 192.168.0.77 like in my imgur link
#677 [03:59] <feenyx> Smargoos: yes mr. sandwich!
#678 [03:59] <Smargoos> who u talking to?
#679 [03:59] <feenyx> Sm�rg�s?
#680 [03:59] <feenyx> I assumed
#681 [03:59] <Smargoos> u talking to me?
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#683 [04:00] <fogWork> Sm�rg�s... mmm, med ost och gurka ;P
#684 [04:00] <Smargoos> i dont speak swedish
#685 [04:00] <fogWork> feenyx: why the shit do you call it agurk instead of gurka? ;P
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#687 [04:00] <Sev> feenyx: when I set my IPv4 Address to 192.168.0.77 my internet crashes
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#689 [04:01] <Sev> ok 1 more try
#690 [04:01] <Sev> brrb
#691 [04:01] <Sev> brb
#692 [04:02] <feenyx> fogWork: don't get me started on language quirks :p
#693 [04:03] <fogWork> ;)
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#695 [04:04] <Sev_> back
#696 [04:04] <Sev_> it failed :(
#697 [04:04] <feenyx> how so?
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#700 [04:05] <SevFTW> so?
#701 [04:05] <SevFTW> sorry
#702 [04:05] <SevFTW> wrong chat
#703 [04:05] <SevFTW> *derp*
#704 [04:05] <feenyx> heh
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#706 [04:05] <SevFTW> ok so what happened is I changed it to manually
#707 [04:06] <SevFTW> then changed my IP to 192.168.0.77
#708 [04:06] <SevFTW> then *.20
#709 [04:06] <SevFTW> then *.165
#710 [04:06] <SevFTW> then *.102
#711 [04:07] <SevFTW> and all of them didn't send me the internet :(
#712 [04:09] <SevFTW> feenyx?
#713 [04:09] <feenyx> SevFTW: on the phone, hang on a sec
#714 [04:09] <SevFTW> ok sorry :\
#715 [04:12] <feenyx> you set your IP to 192.168.0.77, subnet mask to 255.255.255.0, router to 192.168.0.1 (assuming that's what it is)
#716 [04:13] <SevFTW> ues
#717 [04:13] <SevFTW> yes
#718 [04:13] <feenyx> also add 192.168.0.1 as a DNS server
#719 [04:13] <feenyx> and if that doesn't work, colour me confused
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#721 [04:14] <feenyx> I'm not an expert on Mac related things by any means, but networking is fairly universal
#722 [04:14] <SevFTW> 192.168.0.1 is already in my DNS Servers
#723 [04:14] <feenyx> good
#724 [04:15] <SevFTW> and now...
#725 [04:15] <SevFTW> I retry the *.77?
#726 [04:15] <feenyx> please :)
#727 [04:15] <feenyx> and the other settings
#728 [04:16] <SevFTW> ok
#729 [04:16] <SevFTW> other settings are always the same lol :P
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#731 [04:17] <SevFTW_> Ok, it didn't work
#732 [04:18] <SevFTW_> everytime I do
#733 [04:18] <SevFTW_> it just says my internet connection is offline
#734 [04:19] <SevFTW_> but im still connected to the wifi
#735 [04:19] <feenyx> SevFTW: k, does it look like this before you click Apply Now? http://imgur.com/aA9yL.jpg
#736 [04:19] <SevFTW_> just without the actual internet
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#739 [04:19] <SevFTW> yes
#740 [04:21] <feenyx> well
#741 [04:21] <feenyx> in that case, I guess you have to go back into your Di-524
#742 [04:22] <feenyx> and set up a static dhcp lease
#743 [04:22] <feenyx> like so http://support.dlink.com/emulators/di524_revc/h_dhcp.html
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#746 [04:22] <feenyx> you need the MAC address of your wireless card though, and I don't know how to get at that. That way, your wireless will always get the same IP address from the router
#747 [04:24] <SevFTW> is this a MAC address? 00:23:6c:90:1a:ba
#748 [04:24] <feenyx> yes
#749 [04:24] <SevFTW> I know they look like that
#750 [04:24] <SevFTW> but my mac says it's an Airport ID
#751 [04:24] <SevFTW> wtvr
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#754 [04:25] <feenyx> SevFTW: yeah, that should be the one
#755 [04:25] <SevFTW> ok
#756 [04:27] <SevFTW> ok let's hope it works :P
#757 [04:28] <SevFTW> feenyx: could you try to connect to my server?
#758 [04:30] <SevFTW> can anyone try to connect?
#759 [04:30] <feenyx> SevFTW: sure just a sec
#760 [04:31] <SevFTW> ok :D
#761 [04:32] <SevFTW> oh man I'll be phsyched if this works :D
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#765 [04:34] <mib_430d9r> What sort of project should I do next in Minecraft? haha
#766 [04:34] <feenyx> SevFTW: time out when connecting. This may seem like a stupid question, but the server software IS running, right?
#767 [04:35] <SevFTW> yes do you have my external ip?
#768 [04:35] <SevFTW> 99.254.41.68
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#772 [04:36] <feenyx> SevFTW: yep
#773 [04:37] <SevFTW> try 1 more time?
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#775 [04:37] <SevFTW> otherwise imma sleep and ask my friend tomorrow
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#777 [04:37] <tolki> is there a link where i can manually update my client?
#778 [04:38] <SevFTW> off the site
#779 [04:38] <SevFTW> what OS?
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#781 [04:38] <tolki> XP
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#783 [04:38] <SevFTW> http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe?v=1293010712208
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#785 [04:39] <SevFTW> feenyx: Any luck?
#786 [04:39] <feenyx> SevFTW: you can always use http://vaevictus.net/minecraft/ to test if your server is up
#787 [04:39] <SevFTW> FAILED :(
#788 [04:39] <tolki> nope
#789 [04:40] <SevFTW> tolki: what do you mean?
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#791 [04:41] <SevFTW> feenyx: it said successfully now
#792 [04:41] <SevFTW> can you try 1 last time
#793 [04:41] <SevFTW> I swear this is the last
#794 [04:42] <feenyx> SevFTW: congratulations :)
#795 [04:42] <tolki> i used a downgrader to go back to alpha, but i want to go back to beta. so im looking for a way up update but im currently having trobule finding a way to do so
#796 [04:43] <SevFTW> feenyx: actually, it's not 100% the way I wanted it :\ the IP is still dynamic for some reason, I'll check up some more tutorials after I sleep
#797 [04:43] <SevFTW> tolki: try uninstalling minecraft then re installing
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#799 [04:44] <SevFTW> tolki:
#800 [04:44] <tolki> ah alright
#801 [04:44] <SevFTW> wait
#802 [04:44] <SevFTW> nvm
#803 [04:44] <SevFTW> I'm an idiot
#804 [04:44] <tolki> lol
#805 [04:44] <SevFTW> go to you appdata folder and to .minecraft
#806 [04:44] <SevFTW> then delete your bin folder
#807 [04:44] <SevFTW> then startup minecraft client again
#808 [04:44] <feenyx> yep
#809 [04:45] <feenyx> it ought to auto-update
#810 [04:45] <tolki> alright ill give it a shot quick
#811 [04:45] <SevFTW> ok
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#814 [04:45] <SevFTW> yo feenyx, thank you for helping me with the server
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#816 [04:48] <feenyx> SevFTW: no worries, glad we could make it work
#817 [04:48] <SevFTW> :D
#818 [04:48] <SevFTW> thanks man
#819 [04:48] <SevFTW> i gotta get some sleep
#820 [04:48] <SevFTW> gotta meet my girl at 10 :P
#821 [04:48] <SevFTW> cya
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#824 [04:49] * feenyx get another cup of coffee
#824 [04:54] <fork> i just cracked another beer
#825 [04:54] <kontroll> /snort
#826 [04:55] <kontroll> Me + boss from where I worked before were working on a CMS. A grid based CMS with bloody collision detection. How lawl is that?
#827 [04:57] <fork> maybe if i knew what you were talkin about
#828 [04:57] <kontroll> Content Management System.
#829 [04:57] <kontroll> Oh... it's fork. I snort even more.
#830 [04:57] <kontroll> Hi, little buddy. ;D
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#832 [04:58] <fork> beer goes with pizza
#833 [05:00] <kontroll> That is very true.
#834 [05:00] <fogWork> Beer goes with beer and random choise of meat
#835 [05:00] <fork> beer goes with everything really
#836 [05:00] * fogWork nods
#836 [05:01] <kontroll> Well.
#837 [05:01] * kontroll is now known as kontroll|beer
#838 [05:01] <kontroll|beer> Really. It even goes well with me.
#839 [05:01] <kontroll|beer> :P
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#843 [05:18] <Kealper> Nevermind me, because I am a brilliant god of programming, and I fix leaf decay by using tricky sneakery and dead sexiness! :D :D :D less than 10 seconds ago via web
#844 [05:18] <Kealper> Notch's twitter
#845 [05:18] <kontroll|beer> Oh.
#846 [05:18] <kontroll|beer> Because leaves > connectivity.
#847 [05:18] <kontroll|beer> ;P
#848 [05:19] <Zircon_X> Notch is a sexy man. :|
#849 [05:19] <Kealper> well, leaves were the source of everyone bitching about lag, so yea it was a pretty good fix lol
#850 [05:19] <kontroll|beer> Oh, so that's what caused the shitty performance?
#851 [05:19] <Kealper> indeed
#852 [05:19] <Kealper> leaf decay
#853 [05:19] <Kealper> it's raped performance each time he's tried to put it in
#854 [05:19] <kontroll|beer> I wonder if it'll help with connectivity then. :P
#855 [05:20] <Kealper> probably not
#856 [05:20] <kontroll|beer> One can hope.
#857 [05:20] <kontroll|beer> Can't try till I get home anyway.
#858 [05:20] <fogWork> God of programming? Yes, most of us have seen his holy and most divine code
#859 [05:20] <kontroll|beer> But one can hope.
#860 [05:20] <Kealper> lol fog
#861 [05:21] <Kealper> i don't know java, so i can't say if it's a pile of garbage or not lol
#862 [05:21] <kontroll|beer> fogWork: Where it bees?
#863 [05:21] <Kealper> what it does?
#864 [05:21] <kontroll|beer> So. All programmers here atm? ;P
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#866 [05:21] <Zircon_X> I don't count
#867 [05:21] <Kealper> some would beg to differ as to what i do is proper programming, but i like to think so
#868 [05:21] * fogWork is, but not Java, because Java is Satan
#868 [05:22] <Zircon_X> Kealper: That archiving program is pretty sweet
#869 [05:22] <kontroll|beer> Do you carve HTML from raw text blocks, Kealper?
#870 [05:22] <Kealper> no, i make software with an interpreted languange instead of a compiled language
#871 [05:22] <Zircon_X> As long as what you do works...
#872 [05:23] <kontroll|beer> So it's still web related then, is it? ;P
#873 [05:23] <Kealper> no
#874 [05:23] <Kealper> installable software lol, i'm garbage at web stuff
#875 [05:23] <kontroll|beer> You've lost me, most definitely.
#876 [05:23] <kontroll|beer> Huh.
#877 [05:23] * kontroll|beer is now known as kontroll
#878 [05:24] <kontroll> << PHP monkey, at any rate.
#879 [05:24] <Kealper> uhh...imagine if php could be compiled into executable files, with no need for a php interpreter to be installed...
#880 [05:24] <fogWork> It's possible :P
#881 [05:24] <Kealper> and it had more powerful features like the ability to create guis and such
#882 [05:24] <Kealper> and that would be what i do
#883 [05:24] <Kealper> with a different language, ofc, but the concept is the same
#884 [05:24] <kontroll> No real point in wishing.
#885 [05:24] <Kealper> lol
#886 [05:25] <kontroll> It's not that good of a language.
#887 [05:25] <Kealper> i've been told that php is a bastardized web version of perl...
#888 [05:25] <fork> new beer
#889 [05:25] <fork> :D
#890 [05:25] <kontroll> I've heard perl hates your soul and works relentlessly to destroy it.
#891 [05:25] <fork> ive passed the recommended beer intake by about 2 fold now
#892 [05:25] <kontroll> Therefore I have avoided it.
#893 [05:25] <Kealper> and indeed i do know perl...and i have to say i MUCH prefer autoit
#894 [05:25] <Kealper> oh....it does
#895 [05:26] <Kealper> regex destroys you from the inside out
#896 [05:26] <fogWork> fork: where ya live?
#897 [05:26] <Kealper> so...the saying it's 5 o'clock somewhere
#898 [05:26] <Kealper> does that count if it's 5 am here? lol
#899 [05:26] <fork> ^
#900 [05:26] <fork> fuck itll be 5am here in not too long
#901 [05:26] <fork> and i got shit to do tomorrow
#902 [05:26] <fork> lol
#903 [05:27] <Kealper> lol
#904 [05:27] <fork> i have to climb on a roof
#905 [05:27] <kontroll> gj.
#906 [05:27] * fogWork estimates the recommended beer intake for an american to: 1
#906 [05:27] <fogWork> An american heavy drinker to nearly a sixpack
#907 [05:27] <fork> 2-3
#908 [05:27] * fogWork nods
#908 [05:27] <Kealper> 1?
#909 [05:27] <Kealper> seems a little low
#910 [05:27] <fork> 2-3 12oz
#911 [05:28] <Kealper> i mean for recommended beer intake lol
#912 [05:28] <fork> i recommend finishing the whole case
#913 [05:28] <Kealper> aye!
#914 [05:28] <fogWork> 6 or 24?
#915 [05:28] <fork> nobody likes leftovers
#916 [05:28] <fork> case means 24
#917 [05:28] <fogWork> Never know with americanzoz
#918 [05:28] <Kealper> nothing like alcohol poisoning in the morning
#919 [05:28] <Kealper> lol
#920 [05:29] * fogWork does a quick conversion of cl to oz
#920 [05:29] <fork> nah
#921 [05:29] <fork> ive got the method
#922 [05:29] <fork> pound water before passing out
#923 [05:29] * Kealper wanders off to get something tame to drink
#923 [05:29] <fork> then piss it out in about 4 hours
#924 [05:29] <Kealper> lol
#925 [05:29] <fork> pound coffee right when i wake up
#926 [05:29] <fogWork> 50cl is roughly 17oz
#927 [05:31] <Kealper> alrighty....
#928 [05:31] <fogWork> 408oz of beer \o/
#929 [05:31] <Kealper> o.o
#930 [05:31] <Kealper> that's like....shit isn't a gallon only like 128oz? or is my sleep deprived brain failing me?
#931 [05:32] <fogWork> 408oz is roughly 3 gallons?
#932 [05:32] <Kealper> that'd be a small amount of beer lol
#933 [05:32] <fork> what
#934 [05:32] <fogWork> 12 litres then? :P
#935 [05:33] <fork> 5.4% abv
#936 [05:33] <fork> heineken
#937 [05:33] <fork> im down to the last one
#938 [05:33] <fork> then i got some stray becks in the fridge
#939 [05:33] <Kealper> lol
#940 [05:33] <fogWork> 4.7% abv, newcastle brown ale
#941 [05:33] * fogWork om noms
#941 [05:34] <Kealper> lol
#942 [05:34] <Kealper> fog are you british or something?
#943 [05:34] <fogWork> From Sweden :P
#944 [05:34] <Kealper> o.o
#945 [05:35] <Kealper> what's with every swedish person having perfect english? is that an official language over there? lol
#946 [05:35] <fogWork> I have no idea, to be honest ;P
#947 [05:35] <Kealper> strange....lol
#948 [05:36] <fogWork> School didn't do much for my english though, got it all from cartoons around the age of six / seven
#949 [05:36] <kontroll> Kealper: It's the kinds of people you meet.
#950 [05:36] <kontroll> Trust me, not all Swedes have all that good a grasp of English.
#951 [05:36] <Kealper> i guess i just meet epic awesome people then :P
#952 [05:36] <fogWork> kontroll: very true :P
#953 [05:36] <kontroll> Unfortunately.
#954 [05:37] <kontroll> Hearing news people try English can be... painful.
#955 [05:37] <kontroll> Makes me cringe so hard at times.
#956 [05:37] <fogWork> Haha, old people <3
#957 [05:37] <kontroll> :X
#958 [05:37] <Kealper> fogWork: yeah, i know this one swedish kid and his english teacher always has typos in her homework assignments, and i didn't even know this kid was swedish until he told me lol
#959 [05:37] <Kealper> like really obvious ones too....
#960 [05:38] <fork> english \o/
#961 [05:38] <fork> the language is great! not so sure about the people..
#962 [05:38] <fork> ;p
#963 [05:38] <kontroll> :P
#964 [05:38] <fogWork> ;D
#965 [05:38] <fork> :E <- brit teeth
#966 [05:38] <Kealper> not even confuesing "you're" with "your" or something...it would be like getting "your" with "you" lol
#967 [05:38] <fogWork> It could of have been worse... much, much worse
#968 [05:38] <Kealper> fork: LOL
#969 [05:38] <kontroll> Obv. I'm Swe too. You can tell by my name.
#970 [05:38] <fogWork> I mean, we could be typing in French
#971 [05:38] <kontroll> Most people think I'm just a troll though. :<
#972 [05:39] <Kealper> kontroll: i actually didn't guess, i thought it was just a play on cons and internet trolls :S
#973 [05:39] <kontroll> SEE
#974 [05:39] <Kealper> maybe i'm just slow like that :S
#975 [05:39] * kontroll huffs
#975 [05:39] <Kealper> LOL
#976 [05:39] <Kealper> i..see...swedes...
#977 [05:39] <kontroll> I find it a mite offensive.
#978 [05:40] <Kealper> then change your nick to kontrol lol
#979 [05:40] <kontroll> I shouldn't have to change myself just because you can't figure it out.
#980 [05:40] <kontroll> ;)
#981 [05:40] <kontroll> "you"
#982 [05:40] <Kealper> bah lol
#983 [05:41] <kontroll> I go by this or "grimman".
#984 [05:41] <kontroll> Unfortunately... grimma is a piece of horse gear in Swe.
#985 [05:41] <kontroll> And in Danish it means ugly man. Well... "uglyman".
#986 [05:41] <Kealper> lol
#987 [05:42] <Kealper> meh, i found out that a name i used in an mmo Kau, (a play on Cow)....was actually slang for "shit" in a different language...
#988 [05:42] <Kealper> and i sucked at putting that comma in right...
#989 [05:42] <Kealper> an mmo, Kau*
#990 [05:43] <kontroll> ;>
#991 [05:43] <kontroll> I had a WoW character I called Nare.
#992 [05:43] * Kealper doesn't get it
#992 [05:43] <kontroll> Are you Dutch by any chance?
#993 [05:43] <kontroll> I guess not.
#994 [05:44] <kontroll> It means nasty.
#995 [05:44] <Kealper> i'm amurikan
#996 [05:44] <kontroll> Oh.
#997 [05:44] <Kealper> oh lol
#998 [05:44] <kontroll> I have a paladin I named Catalin. NEVER make that mistake on a Euro realm.
#999 [05:44] <kontroll> The Romanians go wild.
#1000 [05:44] <Kealper> O.o
#1001 [05:45] <kontroll> "R U ROMANIA LOLZ?"
#1002 [05:45] <Kealper> lol
#1003 [05:45] <kontroll> I have the worst luck when it comes to names.
#1004 [05:45] <kontroll> Anyway. Whereabouts in the Amerikaland are you located then?
#1005 [05:46] <Kealper> the one that looks like a mitten
#1006 [05:46] <kontroll> Yeah yeah.
#1007 [05:46] <kontroll> Name it. ;P
#1008 [05:46] <Kealper> Michigan lol
#1009 [05:46] <kontroll> Hm.
#1010 [05:46] <kontroll> No idea. I know where VA, FL and CA are. ;P
#1011 [05:47] <Kealper> does the great lakes ring any bells?
#1012 [05:47] <kontroll> And New England, not sure about the acro.
#1013 [05:47] <kontroll> Bells, yes. Does not make my geography sense tingle though. ;D
#1014 [05:47] <kontroll> I'll google it.
#1015 [05:47] <Kealper> michigan would be the state that is surrounded by them, it's just west of the new england states and it borders canada
#1016 [05:48] <Kealper> i can see canada from my house O.o
#1017 [05:48] <kontroll> Up there, gotcha.
#1018 [05:48] <Kealper> and i have caught myself saying aboot instead of about, aswell >>>
#1019 [05:48] <Kealper> >.>*
#1020 [05:49] <kontroll> I thought that was just myth.
#1021 [05:49] <kontroll> Till that one fateful day on Skype.
#1022 [05:49] <kontroll> I never quite recovered.
#1023 [05:49] <Kealper> no, canadians really do talk like that lol
#1024 [05:50] <kontroll> I know that now.
#1025 [05:50] <Kealper> i also say eh a lot.....living so close to canada ftl
#1026 [05:50] <kontroll> /shake head
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#1028 [05:51] * Kealper wonders when Notch will push said update
#1028 [05:53] <kontroll> Oh, I thought it was live.
#1029 [05:53] <kontroll> I mean... testing doesn't seem to be much of a concern.
#1030 [05:53] <kontroll> /wry smile
#1031 [05:54] <Kealper> lol
#1032 [05:54] <kontroll> Now playing: Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
#1033 [05:54] <Kealper> why test when you've got 800,000 others to do it for you? lol
#1034 [05:54] <Kealper> gg
#1035 [05:54] <kontroll> 800k beta testers at that. :)
#1036 [05:55] <kontroll> Strange game this, really.
#1037 [05:55] <Zircon_X> Much like Sid Meyer,
#1038 [05:55] <Kealper> lol
#1039 [05:55] <kontroll> I hated it so much, I thought, when people were all up in arms about it.
#1040 [05:55] <Zircon_X> The userbase IS the beta testers
#1041 [05:55] <kontroll> But it turns out, what I hated was the userbase.
#1042 [05:55] <kontroll> A part of it, at least.
#1043 [05:55] <Kealper> indeed
#1044 [05:55] <Kealper> quite a portion are just trolls
#1045 [05:56] <kontroll> Have you seen the yogscast mc videos?
#1046 [05:56] <Kealper> i have not, should i?
#1047 [05:56] <kontroll> Yes.
#1048 [05:56] <kontroll> They made me buy the game.
#1049 [05:56] <kontroll> Then I told a wife... "I've bought Minecraft."
#1050 [05:56] <Kealper> O.o
#1051 [05:56] <kontroll> + that I could make him do the same easily.
#1052 [05:57] <kontroll> Sent video. 5 minutes later he asked me if I wanted to play.
#1053 [05:57] <kontroll> :)'
#1054 [05:57] <Kealper> you totally lost me with those last few sentences
#1055 [05:57] <Kealper> my brain can't comprehend much at 6am
#1056 [05:57] <kontroll> What can I clarify for you, little buddy?
#1057 [05:57] <Kealper> please
#1058 [05:57] <Kealper> lol
#1059 [05:57] <Kealper> oh...uhh...yes
#1060 [05:58] <kontroll> Here's the thing. Me + woman refer to my woman-like, needy friends as wives.
#1061 [05:58] <Kealper> everything about telling some wife, and some guy asking if you wanted to play
#1062 [05:58] <kontroll> ;D
#1063 [05:58] <Kealper> oh lol
#1064 [05:58] <kontroll> So the wife is a guy.
#1065 [05:59] <Kealper> yea i was like wait what? lol
#1066 [05:59] <kontroll> The woman is my lovely, lovely woman. ^^
#1067 [05:59] <Kealper> xD
#1068 [05:59] <kontroll> I'm sneaking my winamp volume up, little by little.
#1069 [06:00] <kontroll> IS THIIIIS A KIND OF MAGIC?
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#1071 [06:00] <kontroll> :>
#1072 [06:00] <Kealper> sent a pm, if you didn't notice it yet
#1073 [06:00] <kontroll> I have audio notifications. But I remote to my home puter, so I don't get them. ;>
#1074 [06:01] <fork> wtf
#1075 [06:01] <fork> you have effeminate friends?
#1076 [06:01] <Kealper> what is this trickery?
#1077 [06:01] <Kealper> lol
#1078 [06:01] <kontroll> Not really.
#1079 [06:01] <fork> just sayin
#1080 [06:01] <kontroll> But whatever traits they have, whatever they do, I exaggerate it when I'm talking to woman.
#1081 [06:01] <feenyx> there are no girls on the internet, end of discussion.
#1082 [06:01] <fork> fruits move to the city
#1083 [06:02] <fork> here
#1084 [06:02] <kontroll> As a result, they all come across as whiny women to her.
#1085 [06:02] <kontroll> Whereas she refers to herself as my man.
#1086 [06:02] <kontroll> Mm. :D
#1087 [06:02] <fork> so youre gay?
#1088 [06:02] <fogWork> Speaking of exaggerating when talking to women
#1089 [06:02] <kontroll> No. I'm a guy. Woman is a woman, fork.
#1090 [06:02] <fogWork> Me and a few guys got a friend laid
#1091 [06:02] <fork> hookers work magic
#1092 [06:02] <Kealper> lol
#1093 [06:02] <fogWork> Imagine her surprise when his penis didn't measure up to the monster described
#1094 [06:02] <fork> fuckin 1 beer left
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#1096 [06:03] <fork> fogWork: lol
#1097 [06:03] <Kealper> lol fog
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#1099 [06:03] <kontroll> I'm grinning, fogWork. I shouldn't be.
#1100 [06:03] <kontroll> But I am.
#1101 [06:03] <fork> she still took it, main thing
#1102 [06:03] <fogWork> She did indeed ;P
#1103 [06:03] <fogWork> But scolded us privately afterwards
#1104 [06:03] <fork> lol
#1105 [06:03] <Kealper> lol
#1106 [06:03] <fork> wtf did u tell her
#1107 [06:04] <fork> dude must have a sad winky
#1108 [06:04] <kontroll> I WANT IT ALL, AND I WANT IT NOW!
#1109 [06:04] <kontroll> This Queen spree is matching up quite nicely with the topic at hand.
#1110 [06:04] <Kealper> bad timing is bad
#1111 [06:04] <fork> lol
#1112 [06:04] <kontroll> JUST GIMME WHAT I KNOW IS MINE!
#1113 [06:04] <fork> Queen \m/
#1114 [06:04] <kontroll> I'll stop.
#1115 [06:05] <fogWork> Sadly, and most unfortunate is that most of us have seen it erect in the shower room @ the gym
#1116 [06:05] <fork> i got my alice in chains station on pandora
#1117 [06:05] <fork> wait
#1118 [06:05] <fork> why the fuck was it erect in the shower.
#1119 [06:05] <kontroll> That's just incredibly creepy, fogWraith.
#1120 [06:05] <Kealper> my thoughts exactly
#1121 [06:05] <kontroll> fogWork*
#1122 [06:05] <fogWork> We don't know and we vanished faster than a ninja would
#1123 [06:05] <Kealper> lol
#1124 [06:05] <fork> lol
#1125 [06:05] <kontroll> Ninjas linger though...
#1126 [06:05] <kontroll> Just sayin'.
#1127 [06:05] <fork> what he means is he watched from the ceiling
#1128 [06:06] <kontroll> Indede.
#1129 [06:06] <Kealper> lol
#1130 [06:06] <fogWork> >_O
#1131 [06:06] <kontroll> ffs. Indeed*
#1132 [06:06] <fogWork> Bastards :P
#1133 [06:06] <fork> almost spewed beer out my nose
#1134 [06:06] <fork> delayed laughter
#1135 [06:07] <Kealper> so i got this little christmax bag of candy...and it had a small play-doh thing in it...i forgot how fun that stuff could be lol
#1136 [06:07] <fogWork> How old were you again? :P
#1137 [06:07] <Kealper> 20 lol
#1138 [06:08] <fork> damn i feel old now
#1139 [06:08] <Kealper> you can't be that old >.>
#1140 [06:08] <fork> quarter century
#1141 [06:08] <Kealper> that's not that old lol
#1142 [06:08] <Kealper> 30+ is getting a bit old
#1143 [06:08] <fork> 1/3rd of life over if you think about it
#1144 [06:08] <fogWork> You're younger than me, fork >_O
#1145 [06:09] <fork> i figure the next third is working and the last third is pooping myself
#1146 [06:09] <fork> so i return full circle at the end
#1147 [06:09] <Kealper> lol
#1148 [06:09] <fork> yea and im not married
#1149 [06:09] <fork> so i doubly win fogWork
#1150 [06:10] <fogWork> Bah :P
#1151 [06:10] <Kealper> lol
#1152 [06:10] * feenyx is 27
#1152 [06:10] <feenyx> or rather, I'm in limbo
#1153 [06:10] <feenyx> not quite done with the 20s, not quite 30
#1154 [06:10] <kontroll> I'm almost recently 27.
#1155 [06:10] <fork> cool
#1156 [06:10] <fork> its good that im not the oldest
#1157 [06:10] * Kealper feels like the youngin' in this group -_-
#1157 [06:11] <fork> i dont want to reach 30 really
#1158 [06:11] <kontroll> Funny thing.
#1159 [06:11] <kontroll> I was just fine at 26.
#1160 [06:11] <kontroll> "Age doesn't matter!"
#1161 [06:11] <kontroll> 27 -> "I'm ancient. ;_;"
#1162 [06:11] <Kealper> lol
#1163 [06:11] <fork> is that what you told the 18 year olds
#1164 [06:12] <Kealper> LOL
#1165 [06:12] <kontroll> How old does that make fogWork then?
#1166 [06:12] * fogWork sneaks a 27 in there
#1166 [06:12] <kontroll> I probably missed something there, fork.
#1167 [06:12] <fork> i forgive you
#1168 [06:12] <kontroll> Three of a kind. ;P
#1169 [06:12] <kontroll> Alright.
#1170 [06:12] <fork> 27 bah
#1171 [06:12] <fork> old.
#1172 [06:13] <Kealper> yep....i'm definately the youngin' lol
#1173 [06:13] <fork> im past my prime, thats for sure
#1174 [06:13] <fogWork> Don't really care, I can brag about muh woman :P
#1175 [06:13] <fork> back when i could lift engine blocks and not break my back doing it
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#1177 [06:13] <Kealper> lol
#1178 [06:13] <feenyx> aha
#1179 [06:13] <fork> now if i fart wrong i have to take ibuprofen for spine problems
#1180 [06:14] <fogWork> rofl
#1181 [06:14] <Kealper> lol
#1182 [06:14] <feenyx> your farts register on the Richter scale?
#1183 [06:14] <fogWork> Those are dangerous
#1184 [06:14] <fork> my farts are the reason the richter scale even exists
#1185 [06:14] <feenyx> hahaha
#1186 [06:15] <fogWork> Why did I hear "SONIC BOOM!" in my head >_O
#1187 [06:15] <fork> lol
#1188 [06:15] <Kealper> meh, i should get off to bed...it's like past 6am now :S
#1189 [06:15] <fork> who cares
#1190 [06:15] <fork> its not like youre operating heavy machinery
#1191 [06:15] * fogWork operates a mac, 'nuff said
#1191 [06:15] <Kealper> depends if you call my computer heavy machinery lol
#1192 [06:15] <Kealper> lol fog
#1193 [06:16] <fork> no i was thinking more along the lines of dump truck
#1194 [06:16] <fork> which is actually kinda fun with sleep deprivation
#1195 [06:16] <kontroll> For you, perhaps.
#1196 [06:16] <Kealper> is that the voice of first hand exp? lol
#1197 [06:17] <fork> indeed
#1198 [06:17] <Kealper> xD
#1199 [06:17] <fork> i had to keep driving after a 12 hour night shift
#1200 [06:17] <fork> 4 hours into a day shift
#1201 [06:17] <fork> WEEEEE :D
#1202 [06:17] <Kealper> lol
#1203 [06:17] <fork> dump trucks and mud is like a redneck vacation
#1204 [06:18] <fogWork> Add snow and ice
#1205 [06:18] <fogWork> WOO!
#1206 [06:18] <fork> i dont do cold weather
#1207 [06:18] <Kealper> snow and ice....sounds like Michigan right now lol
#1208 [06:18] <fork> it doesnt drop below about 60f here
#1209 [06:18] <fork> thankfully
#1210 [06:19] <Kealper> dang lol
#1211 [06:19] <fork> yea my nudist habits would be negatively impacted in a cold climate
#1212 [06:19] <Kealper> xD
#1213 [06:19] <fogWork> Fahrenheit is a lie + shitty system to measure in ;P
#1214 [06:19] <fork> truth
#1215 [06:19] <Kealper> measuring in kalvin ftw?
#1216 [06:20] <fork> kelvin is ok by me
#1217 [06:20] <fogWork> -12f here
#1218 [06:20] <fork> it's an absolute scale so there are no degrees
#1219 [06:20] <fork> -12f lol
#1220 [06:20] <fork> whats up santa
#1221 [06:20] <fogWork> Dude, not cool, I have to shovel snow when I get home :P
#1222 [06:20] <Kealper> 25f where i am right now lol
#1223 [06:20] <fork> WHERES YOUR GLOBAL WARMING NOW
#1224 [06:21] <Kealper> already had my big storm for the month...stupid thing got down to like -10f for wind chill
#1225 [06:21] <fogWork> It took an early vacation, fork ;/
#1226 [06:21] <kontroll> We had between -30 and -25 in Swedonialand last night.
#1227 [06:21] <fogWork> It's going to drop below -22f tomorrow, apparently
#1228 [06:21] <kontroll> -20 this morning.
#1229 [06:21] <kontroll> C, of course.
#1230 [06:21] <fork> thats insane
#1231 [06:22] <Kealper> damn that would suck
#1232 [06:22] <Kealper> you should get a spray bottle of hot water and spray people in the face with it that cold out lol
#1233 [06:22] <fork> at least refrigeration is free
#1234 [06:22] <fogWork> Wouldn't be optimal for anything, we ride polar bears here ;)
#1235 [06:22] <kontroll> I don't.
#1236 [06:23] <kontroll> They fear me now.
#1237 [06:23] <fork> i ride toyotas
#1238 [06:23] <fork> better than polar bears imo
#1239 [06:23] <Kealper> i ride a bike -.-
#1240 [06:23] <fogWork> Polar bears have claws and ... sharp, pointy.... teeth!
#1241 [06:23] * fogWork makes a wild wizard face
#1241 [06:23] <fork> in a sense my toys have claws
#1242 [06:23] <Kealper> lol
#1243 [06:23] <fork> http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/844/0926071513ag0.jpg
#1244 [06:23] <fogWork> Monty Python, quest for ze holy grail
#1245 [06:24] <Kealper> my my, that truck has some decent range for it's suspension lol
#1246 [06:25] <fork> that wasnt even close to full lock either
#1247 [06:25] <fork> i had a better picture but imageshack corrupted it
#1248 [06:25] <Kealper> is it yours or just a random one?
#1249 [06:25] <fork> one of my many
#1250 [06:25] <Kealper> oh nice lol
#1251 [06:26] <fork> http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8765/122007002xf2.jpg
#1252 [06:26] <fork> that fucker was ridiculous. i use it for parts now
#1253 [06:26] <Kealper> O.o
#1254 [06:26] <fork> since getting it legal was like getting oprah skinny
#1255 [06:26] <Kealper> lol
#1256 [06:26] <fogWork> It happens
#1257 [06:26] <fogWork> Once every turn of the century
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#1259 [06:27] <fork> http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3968/3302007020xr2.jpg
#1260 [06:27] <fork> i traded that one away
#1261 [06:27] <fork> that was at about 13,200' elevation
#1262 [06:28] <Kealper> dang, what state are you in? lol
#1263 [06:28] <fork> the sticker gives that away
#1264 [06:28] <fork> http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/895/awcrapyi7.jpg hehe
#1265 [06:28] <Kealper> o.o
#1266 [06:28] <Kealper> woh lol
#1267 [06:28] <Kealper> muddin' like a boss lol
#1268 [06:28] <fork> fun fact
#1269 [06:29] <fork> the hole in front of the camera is where a tractor got stuck the day before that
#1270 [06:29] <Kealper> lol
#1271 [06:30] <fork> http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/9315/62707007zz3.jpg heres that other one, right after i got it
#1272 [06:30] <kontroll> Idk... I'm hearing "toyota face" in my head now.
#1273 [06:30] <fork> did that in 2wd
#1274 [06:30] <fork> cant quite see but theres no front driveshaft
#1275 [06:30] <Kealper> nice lol
#1276 [06:30] <Kealper> yea, i can see the front looks a bit empty
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#1278 [06:31] <Jack_Skullington> sup guys
#1279 [06:31] <Kealper> ello
#1280 [06:31] <fork> had a rear detroit, helped a lot
#1281 [06:31] <fork> which is now sitting in my garage waiting to go in another vehicle
#1282 [06:31] <Jack_Skullington> i just got minecraft and wanted some tips to get started if thats cool
#1283 [06:31] <Jack_Skullington> just general things to do and start out
#1284 [06:31] <fork> are you familiar with the wiki
#1285 [06:32] <Jack_Skullington> nope
#1286 [06:32] <Kealper> well, you mean the survival mode, right?
#1287 [06:32] <Jack_Skullington> is survival mode single player?
#1288 [06:32] <Kealper> the paid-for single/multiplayer, yes
#1289 [06:32] <Jack_Skullington> yup
#1290 [06:32] <fork> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/
#1291 [06:32] <Kealper> then this is a must-watch for all newcomers http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_959953&feature=iv&v=7MqkEZn8pN4
#1292 [06:33] <fork> ive only had this game for about a month
#1293 [06:33] <fork> i turned it down for a long time before i finally gave in
#1294 [06:33] <Kealper> hawaii looks like such an epic place
#1295 [06:34] <Jack_Skullington> awesome, thanks kealper.
#1296 [06:34] <fork> it can be
#1297 [06:34] <Kealper> i love mountains, and that place is just basically a collection of them lol
#1298 [06:34] <fogWork> You know it's time to go home when it's so cold in the office that you need to put on your outdoory clothness to work
#1299 [06:35] <Kealper> lol
#1300 [06:35] <fork> you know you live in the wrong climate when...
#1301 [06:35] <kontroll> fork: Same. :P
#1302 [06:35] <fork> http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9040/51807001wl9.jpg
#1303 [06:35] <kontroll> Jack_Skullington: Google "yogscast minecraft". Should give you some youtube links. ;>
#1304 [06:35] <Kealper> O.o
#1305 [06:35] <kontroll> That's... what made me buy the game.
#1306 [06:35] <fork> http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2772/3302007026pu2.jpg
#1307 [06:36] * fogWork shakes a fist
#1307 [06:36] <Kealper> whatever camera you used to take those pics is decent, it's got quite low noise :S
#1308 [06:36] <fork> yea i broke it
#1309 [06:36] <fork> RIP camera
#1310 [06:36] <Kealper> omg that last pic looks awesome
#1311 [06:37] <fork> if you look way in the back
#1312 [06:37] <fork> you can see the waterfalls
#1313 [06:37] * Kealper is jealous
#1313 [06:37] <fogWork> "I realize this is not the first time I've said it, but YAY! Leaf decay WORKS! =D =D Now on to the item dupe glitch.." -Notch
#1314 [06:38] <fork> http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/5947/3302007058er7.jpg
#1315 [06:38] <fork> fun to drive across
#1316 [06:38] * Kealper rages at shitty foothills found in michigan
#1316 [06:39] <fork> http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1953/120023vg7.jpg
#1317 [06:40] <Kealper> man that camera takes some decent images lol
#1318 [06:40] <Jack_Skullington> real quick question, since this is in beta is there any chance of the final version having some sort of campaign or mission based mode?
#1319 [06:40] <fork> yea i wish i didnt break it. damn
#1320 [06:40] <Kealper> Jack_Skullington: there is plans for more of a solid story
#1321 [06:40] <Kealper> but for the most part, it's a sandbox game
#1322 [06:41] <Jack_Skullington> yeah i figured
#1323 [06:41] <fork> im waiting for the addition of bosses
#1324 [06:41] <Kealper> that'd be nice
#1325 [06:41] <Kealper> when normal creepers wern't enough lol
#1326 [06:41] <Kealper> but it would be pretty fun to go up against a boss mob with some friends on smp
#1327 [06:41] <Jack_Skullington> haha i stumbled upon my first creepre about 30 minutes ago
#1328 [06:41] <Jack_Skullington> almost pissed myself
#1329 [06:41] * fogWork tosses a few Ghasts in
#1329 [06:42] <Jack_Skullington> thought i was just a zombie but then he started glowing
#1330 [06:42] <Jack_Skullington> it*
#1331 [06:42] <Kealper> everyone remembers their first creeper lol
#1332 [06:42] <fork> http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/6266/bottomue.jpg my most recent project
#1333 [06:42] <kontroll> Kealper: I don't.
#1334 [06:42] <kontroll> I remember my second one though.
#1335 [06:42] <Kealper> lol
#1336 [06:42] <Kealper> was your first one behind you when it blew? ll
#1337 [06:42] <Kealper> lol*
#1338 [06:42] <kontroll> Mm. I had built a glass roof, thinking I was all sorts of awesome.
#1339 [06:42] <kontroll> No.
#1340 [06:43] <kontroll> It was on fucking top of me.
#1341 [06:43] <fork> boy this conversation is getting dirty
#1342 [06:43] <kontroll> Blew a hole through to my basement.
#1343 [06:43] <kontroll> No, fork.
#1344 [06:43] <kontroll> No.
#1345 [06:43] <Kealper> fork: i'm not really an engine guy, but it does look nice and shiny from what i can tell
#1346 [06:43] <kontroll> Bad.
#1347 [06:43] <Kealper> LOL
#1348 [06:43] <fogWork> Creepers... bah, first one I came across was head on, thought it was just another random nub npc
#1349 [06:43] <fork> .50 stamped into each piston :D was a nice find
#1350 [06:43] <fogWork> "SSSSSS? What?"
#1351 [06:43] <kontroll> Anyway... that creeper. HUGE hole in the roof. The large chest I was digging through was annihilated. Basement wide open.
#1352 [06:43] <kontroll> I really don't know what the hell.
#1353 [06:44] <Kealper> lol
#1354 [06:44] <kontroll> Me dead, of course.
#1355 [06:44] <fork> it took me a long time to figure out you could kill the baddies
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#1357 [06:44] <fork> actually it took me a long time to figure out you could craft :|
#1358 [06:44] <Kealper> yea, i've learned that glass is NOT an effective container for explosions lol
#1359 [06:44] <kontroll> I used creepers to dig with before I knew about TNT. It was not even worth the effort, I could have dug faster manually.
#1360 [06:44] <kontroll> But it was fun,.
#1361 [06:45] <Kealper> lol
#1362 [06:45] <kontroll> Oh...
#1363 [06:45] <kontroll> And those bloody creepers that blew up the lawn in front of my castle.
#1364 [06:45] <kontroll> Damn them all to hell.
#1365 [06:46] <Kealper> lol
#1366 [06:46] <kontroll> And yes.
#1367 [06:46] <kontroll> I do realize I'm yelling about my bloody lawn.
#1368 [06:46] <kontroll> I'm old. Live with it.
#1369 [06:46] <Kealper> this is quite rare, usually i use "lol" as filler text, but i'm actually using it in-context for once
#1370 [06:46] <kontroll> I used to do that.
#1371 [06:46] <kontroll> Things changed. ;P
#1372 [06:47] <Kealper> dare i ask? lol
#1373 [06:47] <kontroll> Oh, I just figured it made me look stupid.
#1374 [06:47] <fogWork> Hmm, boss is on vacation... in other words, screw this shit, I'm going home :P
#1375 [06:47] <kontroll> Like people who say "lol" out loud instead of laughing.
#1376 [06:47] <kontroll> Imbeciles.
#1377 [06:47] <fork> moats prevent that
#1378 [06:47] <fork> obsidian moats
#1379 [06:47] <fork> :D
#1380 [06:47] <fork> with lava
#1381 [06:47] <kontroll> :P
#1382 [06:47] <Kealper> meh, i usually tag it on to anything that i was smiling at when i was typing it (lol)
#1383 [06:47] <kontroll> How would I transport a reasonable quantity of lava without building a million buckets?
#1384 [06:48] <Kealper> i guess i'm just a strangely happer person O.o
#1385 [06:48] <fork> kontroll: store it in a lava pit by your base
#1386 [06:48] <fork> for later fun
#1387 [06:48] <kontroll> Can I "farm" it the way I can farm water if I do a [w][ ][w] pool and... farm the middle?
#1388 [06:48] <Kealper> take two buckets, use checker pattern to make infinate lava
#1389 [06:48] <fork> good for lighting too
#1390 [06:48] <kontroll> So what I said holds, Kealper?
#1391 [06:48] <Kealper> i think
#1392 [06:49] <Kealper> unless it was changed, that method should work for lava too
#1393 [06:49] <kontroll> I farm water by having two adjacent tiles spawn a new water tile between them. :P
#1394 [06:49] <kontroll> Cool.
#1395 [06:49] <kontroll> Well. Hot.
#1396 [06:49] <kontroll> But yes. I will try that.
#1397 [06:49] <Kealper> lol
#1398 [06:49] <kontroll> I've had four buckets of lava stuck in my chest for a few weeks.
#1399 [06:49] <kontroll> Amazing heat retention.
#1400 [06:49] <fork> better see a doctor
#1401 [06:50] <Kealper> sounds like that could turn into acid reflux
#1402 [06:50] <kontroll> Fork you, fork.
#1403 [06:50] <kontroll> I'm stifling a laugh.
#1404 [06:50] <fork> may need cough syrup
#1405 [06:50] <Kealper> xD
#1406 [06:50] <kontroll> Fork you both.
#1407 [06:50] <Kealper> shit.
#1408 [06:50] <Kealper> it's like 7am now
#1409 [06:50] <kontroll> I snorted at my screen earlier. Office. Not really normal behavior.
#1410 [06:51] <kontroll> I should get this database finished. ;P
#1411 [06:51] <kontroll> And start fiddling with the new framework.
#1412 [06:51] <kontroll> Mm, fun fun.
#1413 [06:51] <fork> irc ruins productivity
#1414 [06:51] <Kealper> you've been wasting all this time and you are at work? nice.
#1415 [06:51] <kontroll> It does, yes.
#1416 [06:51] <kontroll> Not wasting, Kealper.
#1417 [06:51] <kontroll> Investing.
#1418 [06:52] <Kealper> well anywho, i'm off to bed....waking up at 2pm is late enough for me lol
#1419 [06:52] <fogWork> IRC is good for productivity
#1420 [06:53] <fogWork> Source control and let god sort 'em out
#1421 [06:53] * fogWork pushes changes
#1421 [06:53] <kontroll> /wave Kealper
#1422 [06:54] * Kealper waves back
#1422 [06:54] * Kealper goes afk nao
#1422 [06:54] <fogWork> So, kontroll, where in our flacid penislooking country do you live? :P
#1423 [06:54] <kontroll> So what kind of code do you wrestle, fogWork?
#1424 [06:55] <kontroll> Oh, you answer your own question first.
#1425 [06:55] <kontroll> Because there's animosity.
#1426 [06:55] <kontroll> Oh, yes there is.
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#1449 [06:56] <kontroll> Well. This is distracting.
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#1452 [06:56] <fogWork> Random socketserver that handles a few bits and bobs of some random client
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#1454 [06:56] <kontroll> Right. ;P
#1455 [06:56] <fogWork> Hotel room booking software, simple crap :P
#1456 [06:57] <kontroll> As for location?
#1457 [06:57] <kontroll> Aha.
#1458 [06:57] <fogWork> < norrland
#1459 [06:57] <kontroll> Oh. I see.
#1460 [06:57] <kontroll> << Sk�ne. ;P
#1461 [06:57] <fogWork> ^ plastdansk
#1462 [06:57] <kontroll> stfu.
#1463 [06:57] <fogWork> haha
#1464 [06:57] <fogWork> Sorry ;)
#1465 [06:57] <pheleas_frog> I wonder if it will go to play minecraft without java in the future?..
#1466 [06:57] <fork> does your software ensure theres a hooker waiting for me in whatever room i am staying in
#1467 [06:57] <kontroll> Punny name there, pheleas_frog.
#1468 [06:58] <fork> thats a must if you want my business
#1469 [06:58] <kontroll> fogWork: At any rate, you should set me up with a cozy room in Washington DC in Jan. Because I'm fully aware all hotel room booking solutions are interconnected.
#1470 [06:58] <kontroll> Yes yes.
#1471 [06:58] <kontroll> ;D
#1472 [06:58] <fogWork> I could implent a professional escort booking feature in, don't know if the client will be happy with that though
#1473 [06:59] <fork> just hide it
#1474 [06:59] <kontroll> One thing I know for sure is that hotel room booking software SUUUUUUUUCKS.
#1475 [06:59] <kontroll> In general at least.
#1476 [06:59] <fork> youll need it when im rich and have my own line of hotels
#1477 [06:59] <fogWork> Haha
#1478 [06:59] <kontroll> Most of the ones I've had the misfortune of dealing with have not even handled the year rollover correctly.
#1479 [06:59] <fogWork> kontroll: aren't they usually just excel sheets? :P
#1480 [07:00] <kontroll> They certainly have that appearance. ;P
#1481 [07:00] <fogWork> I've seen some lazy bitchass solutions
#1482 [07:00] <kontroll> I scoff at hotels that require me to call them.
#1483 [07:00] <kontroll> Just wtf.
#1484 [07:00] <kontroll> Some guy standing with a notepad on the other end, looking like misery incorporated.
#1485 [07:00] <fogWork> "Let me cheeeeeck"
#1486 [07:00] <pheleas_frog> I simply asked ... you'll see minecraft without java in the future I hope :P
#1487 [07:01] <fogWork> Hotels with pay for porn is just awful
#1488 [07:01] <fogWork> Morning Grey :P
#1489 [07:01] * GreyVulpine mrahs
#1489 [07:02] * fogWork eyes the time
#1489 [07:02] <fork> again, escorts
#1490 [07:02] <fogWork> You're late
#1491 [07:02] <kontroll> I'm not terribly fond of Java, but it is not misbehaving terribly atm, pheleas_frog.
#1492 [07:02] <fork> if you're paying you might as well get something for your money
#1493 [07:02] <fogWork> fork: very true :P
#1494 [07:03] <kontroll> fogWork: Language? :P
#1495 [07:03] <fogWork> C++
#1496 [07:03] <fogWork> What I don't get is the insane amounts of money some hotels charge just to spend the night, just fukkn stick me in the cleaning closet
#1497 [07:03] <kontroll> Oh.
#1498 [07:03] <kontroll> Yeah.
#1499 [07:03] <kontroll> 750 SEK for a night? SURE. REASONABLE.
#1500 [07:04] <kontroll> And that's not even "expensive" for what I've been looking at.
#1501 [07:04] <fogWork> I know ;/
#1502 [07:04] <pheleas_frog> Kontroll but you agree about it would be a + if you could play minecraft without java ? sorry for my "Bad-Mix-English"
#1503 [07:05] <fogWork> Shit, I would even clean the room myself afterwards, cook my own breakfast and dinner, pay for the ingredients... just to have it cheaper ;P
#1504 [07:05] <kontroll> pheleas_frog: I don't know about any performance benefits, but I just don't like how java "feels".
#1505 [07:05] <kontroll> fogWork: If you're going somewhere, though... couch surfing.
#1506 [07:05] <kontroll> Looks like an option.
#1507 [07:05] <kontroll> With the drawback that those smug assbastards expect socializing.
#1508 [07:05] <fogWork> Yeah I looked at that
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#1510 [07:06] <fogWork> Java is the drunk aunt that touches you under the table during dinner at fancy occations
#1511 [07:06] <kontroll> Made me think "I wish I had an aunt like that."
#1512 [07:06] <kontroll> Then think about my aunts.
#1513 [07:06] <kontroll> Then shudder in terror.
#1514 [07:06] <fogWork> Exactly ;P
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#1516 [07:07] <kontroll> It's quite terrible.
#1517 [07:08] <fork> wtf
#1518 [07:08] <fork> you have a drunk aunt that molests you?
#1519 [07:08] <fogWork> No, just image it in your head ;P
#1520 [07:08] <fork> whats her number
#1521 [07:08] <feenyx> one can only wish
#1522 [07:08] <fork> oh darn
#1523 [07:08] * fogWork lol'd
#1523 [07:09] <feenyx> I remember my ex-girlfriend's aunt got quite frisky when drinking
#1524 [07:09] <kontroll> That's not the same.
#1525 [07:09] <kontroll> Blood-aunts are vile.
#1526 [07:09] <kontroll> By definition,.
#1527 [07:09] <fogWork> ^
#1528 [07:09] <kontroll> Minus the damned comma.
#1529 [07:09] <fork> well its not like youre procreating
#1530 [07:09] <kontroll> :X
#1531 [07:10] <kontroll> Mine are danish.
#1532 [07:10] <kontroll> Shut up, fogWork.
#1533 [07:10] <fork> so you ARE procreating!
#1534 [07:10] <fogWork> I did so have something to say there :P
#1535 [07:10] <kontroll> I've heard it all.
#1536 [07:10] <fogWork> It gets old, doesn't it? ;)
#1537 [07:10] <kontroll> My woman is quite amused by the fact that I loathe danes (worked there for a year) and have danish forking relatives.
#1538 [07:11] <fork> so the danish are like the west virginians im assuming
#1539 [07:11] <kontroll> It gets very old.
#1540 [07:11] <kontroll> fork: "Sure".
#1541 [07:11] * Con rawrs
#1541 [07:11] <fork> i like to eat danishes
#1542 [07:12] <fogWork> Sk�ne has a nice shield though ;P
#1543 [07:12] <fogWork> And if anyone wonders, Sk�ne is Denmark, but in Sweden: http://www.ne.se/neimage/1369437.gif
#1544 [07:12] * fogWork nods
#1544 [07:13] <fork> looks like an infected appendage with a bleeding end
#1545 [07:14] * fogWork nods
#1545 [07:14] <kontroll> Are you done?
#1546 [07:14] <fogWork> For now
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#1548 [07:15] <kontroll> I'll take what I can get.
#1549 [07:15] <fogWork> Let me help with your imagination, fork: http://home.online.no/~gmorgan/daft-stuff/2euro1-dick.jpg
#1550 [07:16] <fork> genital warts :O
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#1552 [07:17] <fogWork> :|
#1553 [07:17] <Con> :|
#1554 [07:17] <kontroll> :D
#1555 [07:17] * kontroll dances
#1555 [07:19] <fogWork> Oh my, getting dark already? Time to... leave the office :P
#1556 [07:19] <fogWork> "Tj�nste�rende"
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#1558 [07:19] <kontroll> Dark?
#1559 [07:19] <kontroll> You crazy northerners.
#1560 [07:20] <fogWork> :P
#1561 [07:20] <kontroll> Oh. Whereabout in the vast Norrland?
#1562 [07:20] <kontroll> I'm thinking... Pite�.
#1563 [07:20] <kontroll> Smells about right.
#1564 [07:20] <fogWork> Almost, �stersund
#1565 [07:20] <kontroll> I only know of Pite�.
#1566 [07:21] <fogWork> Ah
#1567 [07:21] <kontroll> I _suck_ at geography.
#1568 [07:21] <kontroll> Up until just a few months ago I would not have been able to place myself on a map.
#1569 [07:21] <kontroll> I mean... general geographical area, sure.
#1570 [07:21] <kontroll> I can't even outline Sk�ne. ;P
#1571 [07:21] <fogWork> http://www.lantmateriet.se/upload/bilder/om_lantmateriet/organisation/z_lan.gif
#1572 [07:21] <PandaBear> :P
#1573 [07:23] <kontroll> Well, okay.
#1574 [07:23] <kontroll> Grade school flashbacks.
#1575 [07:23] <fogWork> You're welcome :P
#1576 [07:23] <kontroll> Yeah, it's worse than you imagined.
#1577 [07:23] <kontroll> I thought Norrland was a county.
#1578 [07:23] <kontroll> Not a collection of them.
#1579 [07:23] <fogWork> J�mtland would be a county
#1580 [07:23] <kontroll> I am aware.
#1581 [07:24] <fogWork> Good ;)
#1582 [07:24] <kontroll> I spent a minute on wikipedia.
#1583 [07:24] <kontroll> "Oh fork, I had forgotten about this."
#1584 [07:24] * Con stabs kontroll with a poison-tipped butterfly knife
#1584 [07:24] <fogWork> I'm horrible with geography myself, though sk�ne was placed higher up on the map :P
#1585 [07:24] <kontroll> lol
#1586 [07:25] <fogWork> thought*
#1587 [07:25] <kontroll> Oh. Woman showed me some lawls.
#1588 [07:25] <kontroll> Some norwegian fort.
#1589 [07:25] <kontroll> I shall dig the link up.
#1590 [07:25] <fogWork> Norwegians had forts?
#1591 [07:25] <kontroll> You'll laugh.
#1592 [07:26] <fogWork> Almost thought they did like a hobbit, only worse
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#1595 [07:26] <kontroll> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vard%C3%B8hus_Fortress
#1596 [07:27] <fogWork> Lol
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#1598 [07:27] <fogWork> Is it just placed in a bad / hard to find spot on their map?
#1599 [07:27] <kontroll> Garrison The commander and four soldiers
#1600 [07:28] <kontroll> I don't know. But it's pure comedy gold.
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#1602 [07:29] <fogWork> Horrible stuff ;)
#1603 [07:30] <fogWork> Seems to be placed in a really awkward spot, no wonder it still stands
#1604 [07:30] <kontroll> + the fact that it's camouflaged as a really nice house.
#1605 [07:30] <fogWork> Haha, yeah
#1606 [07:32] <fogWork> Ah well, time to hit the town for a bit :P
#1607 [07:32] <fogWork> Later
#1608 [07:32] <kontroll> Later, little buddy.
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#1613 [07:43] <mbentley> sounds like notch is making good headway on some major bugs...
#1614 [07:44] <kontroll> I should be keeping an eye on his twitter.
#1615 [07:45] <mbentley> he mentions fixing both the leaf decay and item dup issues
#1616 [07:45] <kontroll> I saw just now. ;>
#1617 [07:45] <kontroll> Leaf decay was mentioned in here before though.
#1618 [07:46] <kontroll> I find it strange that it would run even though I was nowhere near trees that were "active".
#1619 [07:46] <kontroll> Bloody digging at the bottom of the world and all. ;D
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#1621 [07:47] <kontroll> My gaping chasm in my basement is still a source of amusement.
#1622 [07:47] <Obadja> Hi, does anyone know how to play Minecraft LAN offline? I'm in Greece on holyday with family, and just bougth 6 licenses. At internet cafe now... :/
#1623 [07:47] <mbentley> do you have a server to play on?
#1624 [07:48] <Obadja> yes... but does the alphaserver work with beta? or should we play on 1.2.6?
#1625 [07:48] <Obadja> I have a server at home, thats usually online... but I brought it to play offline :)
#1626 [07:49] <mbentley> you may need to set 'online-mode=false' in the server.properties file
#1627 [07:49] <Obadja> yes, have done that.. problem is all players is called, player...
#1628 [07:49] <Obadja> are
#1629 [07:50] <mbentley> hmm, i haven't attempted to do what you are doing before so i can't be certain. is it possible to get the server internet access at all?
#1630 [07:50] <mbentley> if you could get the server internet access, you could change that variable to 'true' and then i would imagine it should be able to check the player names
#1631 [07:51] <Obadja> there is no internet at the house yet :/ Wont get mobile net for another week
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#1633 [07:51] <mbentley> hmm, you might be out of luck unless someone else knows how to get around that
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#1635 [07:52] <Guest756649658> hey, I'm having a problem with all my text not showing up in the program
#1636 [07:52] <Obadja> :(
#1637 [07:53] <kontroll> mbentley: Has any of the updates gone live yet?
#1638 [07:53] <Guest756649658> is everyone having that problem?
#1639 [07:53] <Con> yes
#1640 [07:53] <mbentley> yes i think so
#1641 [07:53] <mbentley> my client just downloaded a new version
#1642 [07:53] <Con> update broked it all
#1643 [07:53] <mbentley> but yeah, there is no text
#1644 [07:53] <mbentley> lol
#1645 [07:53] <kontroll> 1.0.2? :P
#1646 [07:53] <Con> 1'0'2 is fine
#1647 [07:53] <Guest756649658> would reinstallin the program work?
#1648 [07:53] <Con> no
#1649 [07:53] <mbentley> just wait
#1650 [07:53] <mbentley> notch will fix it
#1651 [07:54] <Obadja> I've seen people using Cheat Engine og Hamachi to "solve" this... but I never figured out how...
#1652 [07:54] <Con> There's no way to fix it yourself.. err, unless you know Java and can deobfuscate the files and find out what's wrong and correct it
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#1655 [07:57] <mbentley> Obadja: have the clients connected to minecraft before?
#1656 [07:57] <mbentley> ie - have they logged in?
#1657 [07:57] <Mazing> so when is the fix supposed to be coming out?
#1658 [07:58] <mbentley> http://twitter.com/#!/notch
#1659 [07:58] <Con> no idea, Mazing
#1660 [07:58] * `` is now known as GLaDOS
#1661 [07:58] <mbentley> most likely when he fixes it
#1662 [07:58] <mbentley> :)
#1663 [07:59] <Con> Notch doesn't set dates for most things anymore
#1664 [07:59] <Con> He doesn't like being unable to fulfill promises
#1665 [08:00] <feenyx> Notch takes after Blizzard
#1666 [08:00] <feenyx> uncanny!
#1667 [08:00] <kontroll> Huh?
#1668 [08:00] <Obadja> mbentley: 3 of the clients have been connected before...
#1669 [08:00] <kontroll> Amazin phone support and solid services?
#1670 [08:00] <kontroll> Amazing*
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#1672 [08:01] <mbentley> when any of those 3 people connect, do they get their actual name>?
#1673 [08:01] <vitium> Is it possible to host minecraft on cloud hosting?
#1674 [08:02] <GreyVulpine> vitium - Yes, people have done it on amazon's EC2
#1675 [08:02] <Obadja> mbentley: No, all get player, and ejects the other player...
#1676 [08:03] <mbentley> ah
#1677 [08:04] <vitium> GreyVulpine: Thank you
#1678 [08:04] <Obadja> When connecting offline, you are unable to change your nick, thus all players is called Player...
#1679 [08:04] <Zenreich> Con: And yet the whole reason we're having this issue is cause he kept his promise of getting it out on the 20th
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#1681 [08:05] <Con> Yep.
#1682 [08:05] <Zenreich> Maybe he learned from his mistake and no longer wants to release things before they're ready
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#1686 [08:07] <ACTI0N> hallo
#1687 [08:07] <ACTI0N> any1 here
#1688 [08:08] <mbentley> nope, just the 134 of us
#1689 [08:08] <Obadja> *sigh*
#1690 [08:10] <Con> ugh, a query
#1691 [08:10] <Con> I hate queries D:<
#1692 [08:10] <ACTI0N> i cant play minecraft even tho i bought it like 3 hours ago, whats wrong?
#1693 [08:10] <ACTI0N> anyone know?
#1694 [08:10] <Con> payment lag
#1695 [08:11] <Con> Too many people buying the game
#1696 [08:11] <kontroll> It's odd.
#1697 [08:11] <Con> It may take a few days to process
#1698 [08:11] <kontroll> Raise the price -> more people buy. :P
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#1700 [08:11] <Con> It's even possible that your payment will be missed
#1701 [08:11] <ACTI0N> ...
#1702 [08:11] <ACTI0N> thats kinda shitty
#1703 [08:12] <Con> It's unlikely that your payment will be missed
#1704 [08:13] <ACTI0N> bad service o,o
#1705 [08:13] <mbentley> Q: My purchase doesn't go through, what do I do?
#1706 [08:13] <mbentley> A: First, check if you paid by E-Check. Those can take up to a week and a half to clear (usually five days). If it's been longer than that, or you didn't pay by E-Check, send me an email at payment@mojang.com. Make sure to include the transaction id from the receipt you got from paypal, and what username you bought the game for.
#1707 [08:14] <ACTI0N> dude i already checked that
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#1709 [08:14] <ACTI0N> so please dont spam things that i have obviously read already
#1710 [08:14] <mbentley> don't be a dick
#1711 [08:14] <mbentley> email payment@mojang.com
#1712 [08:14] <mbentley> learn to be patient
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#1716 [08:19] <Obadja> Is there a Minecraft rehab facility in greece?! :P
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#1718 [08:24] <vitium> Is it possible to copy a world from the single player mode onto a server?
#1719 [08:24] <kontroll> Yes.
#1720 [08:24] <vitium> kontroll What do I need to copy? I'm on linux
#1721 [08:25] <kontroll> Wherever your singleplayer world is... to wherever your server is. :P
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#1723 [08:25] <mbentley> just copy the world directory
#1724 [08:26] <kontroll> On XP it's %appdata%\.minecraft\saves
#1725 [08:26] <kontroll> Be aware, though, that your inventory will not be preserved.
#1726 [08:26] <kontroll> So pop a chest somewhere and stuff your loot in that before you "migrate".
#1727 [08:26] <vitium> kontroll: What about contents of boxes?
#1728 [08:26] <kontroll> :P
#1729 [08:26] <vitium> kontroll: Thanks, you read my mind :)
#1730 [08:26] <kontroll> ^^
#1731 [08:28] <vitium> Hoping to host it on the cloud :) Will pwn if it works
#1732 [08:28] <kontroll> "the cloud"...
#1733 [08:28] <kontroll> That term irks me like nothing else.
#1734 [08:28] <vitium> irks?
#1735 [08:29] <kontroll> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irk
#1736 [08:29] <vitium> Oh ok
#1737 [08:30] <kontroll> :)
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#1741 [08:32] <vitium> kontroll: Do you know how I can set the mode to a co-op survival mode?
#1742 [08:33] <kontroll> Spawn mobs flag in the config, I reckon.
#1743 [08:33] <vitium> I have set pvp=false I think that may be it
#1744 [08:34] <kontroll> I'd think that's friendly fire on or off.
#1745 [08:34] <kontroll> Mind you, I haven't played with the values.
#1746 [08:34] <vitium> Oh, I don't see spawn mobs
#1747 [08:34] <kontroll> Just saying what makes sense to me. :P
#1748 [08:34] <kontroll> Sec.
#1749 [08:34] <kontroll> spawn-monsters=true'
#1750 [08:34] <kontroll> In my config.
#1751 [08:34] <kontroll> Minus the apostrophe.
#1752 [08:35] <vitium> got that
#1753 [08:35] <vitium> what's "helloworld=false" do?
#1754 [08:35] <kontroll> Then there you go.
#1755 [08:35] <kontroll> Now just wait for night and impending doom.
#1756 [08:35] <vitium> Does that generate a new world each time if its set to true?
#1757 [08:35] <kontroll> hellworld* :P
#1758 [08:35] <kontroll> No idea.
#1759 [08:35] <kontroll> You can change the levelname and set hellworld to true to try it out safely.
#1760 [08:35] <vitium> Are monsters meant to disappear when it comes to daylight?
#1761 [08:35] <kontroll> Creepers don't.
#1762 [08:36] <kontroll> The others catch fire and go up in smoke. :)
#1763 [08:36] <vitium> Ah ok
#1764 [08:36] <vitium> Are they the ones that looks like snakes and explode?
#1765 [08:36] <kontroll> Oh, spiders remain as well.
#1766 [08:36] <kontroll> I figure they look more like cacti, but yes, they explode.
#1767 [08:36] <vitium> k
#1768 [08:36] <vitium> thanks again :)
#1769 [08:39] <kontroll> yw.
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#1771 [08:46] <vitium> Where can I download the latest server files? I just tried connecting via my client and it says server is outdated.
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#1773 [08:59] <Johnnyboi> Is anyone else having a CPU problem when running minecraft and or when hosting the Minecraft server?
#1774 [08:59] <mbentley> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1775 [08:59] <mbentley> like what sort of problem Johnnyboi
#1776 [09:00] <Johnnyboi> Well, when I run the Minecraft server, Idle it runs at about 2%-5% CPU usage.
#1777 [09:00] <Johnnyboi> Which is fine.
#1778 [09:01] <Johnnyboi> But when I someone joins it goes up to about 60% and if I join the server with just me in it, it goes up to 98% CPU usage.
#1779 [09:01] <vitium> What's the default server port for minecraft? 25565?
#1780 [09:01] <mbentley> vitium: yes
#1781 [09:01] <vitium> Weird
#1782 [09:01] <vitium> can
#1783 [09:01] <vitium> *Can't access my server I'm hosting
#1784 [09:02] <Johnnyboi> vitium type 127.0.0.1 as the IP
#1785 [09:02] <vitium> I was doing 192.168.1.XX (XX being my computer)
#1786 [09:03] <Johnnyboi> Did 127.0.0.1 work?
#1787 [09:03] <mbentley> if you are trying to run the server and client on the same machine, using 127.0.0.1 or localhost is recommended
#1788 [09:03] <vitium> The server works locally
#1789 [09:03] <vitium> Just not globally
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#1791 [09:04] <vitium> It says connection refused and in terminal it prints Player is null
#1792 [09:04] <Johnnyboi> Right back to my problem. Is anyone else having this issue?
#1793 [09:05] <mbentley> haven't seen that myself but i am not running my server on my desktop
#1794 [09:06] <vitium> mbentley: Have you setup your server so it can be accessed from a computer outside of your network?
#1795 [09:06] <mbentley> vitium: yes
#1796 [09:06] <Johnnyboi> Could you do a quick test mbentley?
#1797 [09:06] <Johnnyboi> I want to see if I'm the only one with this problem.
#1798 [09:06] <mbentley> Johnnyboi: i'm not at home right now so i don't have access to my desktop
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#1800 [09:06] <Johnnyboi> Blah.
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#1805 [09:11] <Burnskagen> Hello again
#1806 [09:11] <Burnskagen> GreyVulpine remember when you opened that port for me yesterday?
#1807 [09:11] <Burnskagen> While it made me able to set up the server and play, canyouseeme.com tells me it's closed
#1808 [09:11] <Burnskagen> and friends can't connect
#1809 [09:12] <Burnskagen> they are getting "Connection timeout"
#1810 [09:12] <Johnnyboi> Whats your IP Burnskagen?
#1811 [09:12] <mbentley> then it would be safe to say it isn't open
#1812 [09:12] <Burnskagen> wait a second
#1813 [09:12] <Burnskagen> 85.164.193.17
#1814 [09:12] <mbentley> !check 85.164.193.17
#1815 [09:12] <Burnskagen> Where, in cmd?
#1816 [09:12] <Burnskagen> !check 85.164.193.17
#1817 [09:13] <mbentley> !check 85.164.193.17:25565
#1818 [09:13] <Johnnyboi> Is it running atm?
#1819 [09:13] <mbentley> not sure if you have to set the port or not
#1820 [09:13] <Burnskagen> yes it is
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#1822 [09:13] <Burnskagen> I have added the application in "Apps and game sharing" in my router
#1823 [09:13] <Johnnyboi> Is the port set to 25565 in server.properties
#1824 [09:13] <vitium> mbentley: Have you set your computer up as a virtual server on your router? Or put yourself outside of the router?
#1825 [09:13] <Burnskagen> yes
#1826 [09:14] <mbentley> it runs on my server which is on my private lan
#1827 [09:14] <mbentley> and i just have it set up using port forwarding
#1828 [09:14] <mbentley> Burnskagen: do you have another pc on your lan you can check to see if you can access it with?
#1829 [09:15] <mbentley> ie - check and make sure it isn't being blocked on your server?
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#1831 [09:15] <Burnskagen> Yeah
#1832 [09:15] <Johnnyboi> Burnskagen: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm Find your Router and follow the steps on portforwarding. Have you done this
#1833 [09:15] <Burnskagen> I can do that
#1834 [09:15] <Burnskagen> I have done that
#1835 [09:15] <mbentley> it would be best to determine where it is failing to work
#1836 [09:15] <Burnskagen> Well, my server isn't even reacting to their login attempts
#1837 [09:16] <mbentley> right
#1838 [09:16] <Burnskagen> so it might be my firewall :/
#1839 [09:16] <Johnnyboi> Disable it.
#1840 [09:16] <Burnskagen> ok
#1841 [09:16] <Johnnyboi> Also do you have a Static or Dynamic IP Address?
#1842 [09:16] <Burnskagen> Static
#1843 [09:16] <Burnskagen> I think so at least
#1844 [09:16] <mbentley> but if you can access the server from inside your lan, then it is likely to be an issue on the router
#1845 [09:17] <Burnskagen> I'll try to connect from another computer with the same router
#1846 [09:17] <Johnnyboi> Disable your firewall first completely.
#1847 [09:17] <Burnskagen> yes
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#1851 [09:27] <vitium> Got it working on port 80 but I get "Internal exception: java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 72"
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#1853 [09:32] <vitium> Does minecraft use tcp or udp?
#1854 [09:33] <mbentley> tcp i believe
#1855 [09:38] <vitium> I'm on the dmz of my router and I can't access my server globally
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#1857 [09:44] <mbentley> might be possible that your ISP is blocking 25565 for some reason
#1858 [09:45] <mbentley> not sure why they would block a port in the upper range like that but it wouldn't be unheard of
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#1861 [09:53] <Remoe> Hello?
#1862 [09:54] <mbentley> <crickets>
#1863 [09:54] <fogWraith> Ja hallo, wie gehts?
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#1865 [09:54] <Remoe> Yeah I'm having no sound on minecraft
#1866 [09:54] <Remoe> The website works however
#1867 [09:55] <Remoe> (inbrowser)
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#1869 [09:56] <fogWraith> Ena.. oh
#1870 [09:56] * fogWraith shrugs
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#1871 [09:57] <mbentley> no sound? might try to remove the %appdata%\.minecraft\resources folder with the client closed and then reopen the client
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#1875 [10:11] <smargoos> anyone here?
#1876 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1877 [10:11] <smargoos> too bad
#1878 [10:11] <smargoos> i would have asked something
#1879 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> The answer would've been 42
#1880 [10:12] <smargoos> really?
#1881 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
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#1883 [10:13] <pudgetta> this comes upp : Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 22.12.10 17:08 Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.1_02 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version
#1884 [10:13] <pudgetta> what do i do?
#1885 [10:13] <mbentley> upgrade your video drivers
#1886 [10:13] <pudgetta> how?
#1887 [10:13] <mbentley> sounds like you either don't have them installed or they aren't working correctly
#1888 [10:13] <pudgetta> ?
#1889 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> pudgetta - Could you tell us what sort of system it is? Desktop? Laptop? What operating system is it?
#1890 [10:13] <pudgetta> ok
#1891 [10:13] <mbentley> do you know what video card you have?
#1892 [10:14] <pudgetta> i'll see
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#1895 [10:14] <smargoos> to question how do i fix that my minecraft freezes and after that it says something lost connection to atiradeon family but succesfully recovered and then it says something about java platform se binary and i have 2 atiradeon hd series 5700
#1896 [10:15] <pudgetta> this come:
#1897 [10:15] <pudgetta> nivida gEfORCE 7100
#1898 [10:15] <GreyVulpine> Great, go to nvidia.com
#1899 [10:15] <GreyVulpine> Look for updated drivers there for your system
#1900 [10:15] <pudgetta> ok
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#1902 [10:15] <GreyVulpine> This is a desktop machine, I'm assuming?
#1903 [10:16] <pudgetta> dont know
#1904 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> Um.
#1905 [10:16] <mbentley> is this a laptop?
#1906 [10:16] <mbentley> if not, it is a desktop machine
#1907 [10:16] <pudgetta> dont know :(
#1908 [10:17] <pudgetta> how do i find out?
#1909 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean you don't know?
#1910 [10:17] <mbentley> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laptop
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#1912 [10:17] <pudgetta> desktop machine :)
#1913 [10:18] <mbentley> download it from here >> http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-260.99-whql-driver.html
#1914 [10:18] <pudgetta> i just download?
#1915 [10:18] <mbentley> download, run the exe, they will install
#1916 [10:19] <pudgetta> ok ty wm
#1917 [10:19] <mbentley> np
#1918 [10:20] <smargoos> so anyone have anwser to my question?
#1919 [10:21] <smargoos> how do i fix that my minecraft freezes and after that it says something lost connection to atiradeon family but succesfully recovered and then it says something about java platform se binary and i have 2 atiradeon hd series 5700
#1920 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> smargoos - Does it give you any error logs/reports?
#1921 [10:22] <smargoos> ?
#1922 [10:22] <smargoos> i have windowss 7 too
#1923 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> Does it produce any sort of error log you can show us?
#1924 [10:22] <smargoos> have re isntalled java 4 times
#1925 [10:22] <smargoos> hmm
#1926 [10:22] <smargoos> no
#1927 [10:22] <pudgetta> when i have instaled can i play minecraft then
#1928 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Could you perhaps give us a screenshot of how it crashes?
#1929 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> pudgetta - Hopefully, yes
#1930 [10:23] <smargoos> no but i can when it comes next time
#1931 [10:23] <smargoos> plus i can say that after it has crashed i have to shut it down withctrl alt del
#1932 [10:24] <smargoos> then it says something about java se binary
#1933 [10:24] <pudgetta> yeyeyeyyeyey
#1934 [10:24] <pudgetta> ty wm!!
#1935 [10:25] <pudgetta> it worked!!
#1936 [10:25] <pudgetta> :)
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#1938 [10:26] <mbentley> smargoos: sounds like you may need to upgrade your video drivers as well
#1939 [10:27] <mbentley> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
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#1947 [10:43] <infdev> I'm getting this error "Protocl Error" when trying to connecet to my server after the recent update. Any ideas on what might be causing this?
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#1951 [10:46] <mbentley> server up to date?
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#1953 [10:46] <renz0r> hi
#1954 [10:46] <smargoos> hi
#1955 [10:46] <renz0r> i am wondering how i can setup my own server?
#1956 [10:46] <smargoos> did i ping out or what?
#1957 [10:46] <blaphmat> Hi. I have a quick question if someone could answer it! Does the game get updates automatically or do I go somewhere to dl them?
#1958 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - It updates automatically
#1959 [10:46] <mbentley> renz0r: http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#1960 [10:46] <smargoos> gets automatically
#1961 [10:47] <blaphmat> thanks a ton!
#1962 [10:47] <smargoos> grey
#1963 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
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#1965 [10:47] <renz0r> ty
#1966 [10:47] <mbentley> np
#1967 [10:47] <smargoos> have still found way to get my minecraft work?
#1968 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#1969 [10:47] <mbentley> did you update your video drivers?
#1970 [10:48] <smargoos> http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx
#1971 [10:48] <smargoos> that is right place?
#1972 [10:48] <mbentley> yes if you are running windows 7 64 bit
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#1974 [10:48] <smargoos> k ihave windows 7 64 bit
#1975 [10:49] <mbentley> yup, that should be the place then
#1976 [10:49] <smargoos> k
#1977 [10:49] <smargoos> i try downloading and instaling it
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#1981 [10:53] <kontroll> Defense Grid: The Awakening on steam sale. Awesome game.
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#1984 [10:57] <smargoos> now it downloaded it and now i am installing
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#1986 [10:58] <vitium> How can I set the spawn location for new players on my server? I have copied my single player world to my server and when I load it I don't spawn it the usual place
#1987 [10:59] <mbentley> last i checked, there wasn't a way to do it but i *think* that it can be done with a map editor
#1988 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> It can be done with a map editor
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#1990 [11:00] <vitium> It's only hard because its night time
#1991 [11:00] <vitium> I will wait til sunrise and save in single player then copy to multiplayer
#1992 [11:00] <NOT_guru> make sure to drop your stuff on hand into a chest
#1993 [11:00] <NOT_guru> when moving between multi and single player
#1994 [11:01] <NOT_guru> there is a good chance you will lose whatever you have on your body
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#1997 [11:04] <smargooss> hi again
#1998 [11:05] <smargooss> i am smargoos but it strangely didnt let me use smargoos
#1999 [11:05] <mbentley> howdy
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#2001 [11:05] <smargooss> cause i had to reboot my comp
#2002 [11:05] <mbentley> there, it timed out
#2003 [11:06] <smargooss> isntalled it succesfully atleast computer still works
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#2008 [11:08] <Burnskagen> Hi guys
#2009 [11:08] <Burnskagen> I need some help
#2010 [11:09] <Burnskagen> As I said earlier, my friends can't connect
#2011 [11:09] <Burnskagen> and neither can I from other computers on my network
#2012 [11:09] <Burnskagen> I disabled firewall for both computers
#2013 [11:09] <mbentley> then it is the firewall on your system
#2014 [11:09] <Burnskagen> :X
#2015 [11:09] <mbentley> are you positive the windows firewall isn't enabled as well?
#2016 [11:10] <Burnskagen> Well, the McAffe one replaces it
#2017 [11:10] <Burnskagen> you mean it is still there?
#2018 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> Do "firewall.cpl" in your run command/search bar
#2019 [11:10] <mbentley> well yeah, if you can't connect to your server from another pc on your lan
#2020 [11:10] <mbentley> and just to make sure, you are using the local private ip address and not your wan ip address from the other machine?
#2021 [11:10] <mbentley> when trying to connect from another pc on the lan
#2022 [11:11] <Burnskagen> yes
#2023 [11:11] <Burnskagen> I tried both in fact
#2024 [11:11] <Burnskagen> It says "These settings are handled by McAffee"
#2025 [11:12] <Burnskagen> and "Learn how to enable windows firewall"
#2026 [11:13] <mbentley> i have often found that even when you disable the mcaffee firewall, it still doesn't allow traffic
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#2028 [11:13] <Burnskagen> Yeah, McAffee is overprotective
#2029 [11:13] <mbentley> had similar problems with getting a vpn client to work properly and uninstalling mcaffee was the only solution
#2030 [11:13] <Burnskagen> :-(
#2031 [11:13] <Burnskagen> but I have paid for three years
#2032 [11:14] <Burnskagen> Can't I contact their support or something?
#2033 [11:14] <mbentley> you sure can
#2034 [11:14] <Burnskagen> The canyouseeme.org site says "Connection timeout" as reason for not being able to see the port
#2035 [11:14] <Burnskagen> does that make sense?
#2036 [11:14] <mbentley> yes
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#2038 [11:15] <mbentley> it means nothing is responding to requests sent to that port
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#2040 [11:16] <mbentley> i take it you followed all of these instructions? >> http://www.forex.com/pdf/firewall-mcafee.pdf
#2041 [11:16] <mbentley> assuming that is the same product
#2042 [11:16] <Burnskagen> I think so, but I can read trough it again to make sure
#2043 [11:17] <mbentley> just make sure that for 'incoming ports' you have 25565 listed. might put it for both tcp and udp
#2044 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> TCP only is fine
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#2046 [11:18] <mbentley> good to know
#2047 [11:18] <Harbinger> how is there not more outrage about the beta being released too early
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#2049 [11:18] <mbentley> what do you mean Harbinger?
#2050 [11:18] <Burnskagen> Because it's a miracle that the dude made the game on his own
#2051 [11:19] <Burnskagen> I don't see why we should be so demanding
#2052 [11:19] <Burnskagen> It's a great game
#2053 [11:19] <Burnskagen> the glitches will be fixed in time
#2054 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> Because he gets bitched at if he waits to release patches, and gets bitched at if he releases them too often.
#2055 [11:19] <Harbinger> the game is essentially still in alpha
#2056 [11:19] <kontroll> Harbinger: BETA software not working as expected? Well burn me and call me Nancy.
#2057 [11:19] <Harbinger> he just wanted his money
#2058 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't
#2059 [11:19] <Harbinger> no its not about the glitches
#2060 [11:19] <Harbinger> its about him just slapping the beta tag on it
#2061 [11:19] <Harbinger> because he regrets his promise to make all future updates free
#2062 [11:19] <mbentley> it's his software...
#2063 [11:19] <kontroll> The alpha felt solid to me.
#2064 [11:20] <kontroll> Maybe it's just me. /shrug
#2065 [11:20] <mbentley> it is much more complete than other betas i have used
#2066 [11:20] <Harbinger> and was worried about too many people buying it during alpha
#2067 [11:20] <Harbinger> and thinking he wouldnt make any money during beta/final
#2068 [11:20] <Harbinger> hes just getting slack because hes an indie developer
#2069 [11:20] <Harbinger> if it was a company like valve
#2070 [11:20] <Harbinger> doing something like this community outrage would be nuts
#2071 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> Harbinger - This isn't the channel for this.
#2072 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> Try #minecraft.
#2073 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> They might care there.
#2074 [11:21] <kontroll> I shouldn't snort the way I just did.
#2075 [11:21] <Con> ooh, I can swear at people when they're in #minecraft
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#2077 [11:24] <kontroll> </drama> I guess.
#2078 [11:24] * GreyVulpine shrugs
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#2079 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> Notch isn't EA, or Valve, or have a pool of hundreds of programmers
#2080 [11:24] <Burnskagen> Can somebody help me test?
#2081 [11:24] <mbentley> thank god
#2082 [11:24] <Harbinger> all im saying is that hes laughing all the way to the bank
#2083 [11:24] <Burnskagen> I have enabled log on the port and done some changes
#2084 [11:24] <mbentley> you can do !check <your ip>
#2085 [11:24] <Harbinger> the beta was rushed
#2086 [11:24] <kontroll> I'm far from a fanboy. But as I said; the alpha felt pretty damn solid.
#2087 [11:24] <Harbinger> its obvious
#2088 [11:25] <Harbinger> it is running worse than alpha did in most cases
#2089 [11:25] <mbentley> spoiler: nobody cares
#2090 [11:25] <Burnskagen> !check in the server app?
#2091 [11:25] <mbentley> no, in here
#2092 [11:25] <Burnskagen> ok
#2093 [11:25] <kontroll> Jag kryper p� ditt badrumsgolv och smakar glupskt ditt svarta kakel!
#2094 [11:25] <kontroll> /dance
#2095 [11:25] <Harbinger> you dont have to care
#2096 [11:25] <Harbinger> keep riding on notchs nuts if you want
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#2098 [11:25] <Burnskagen> !check 85.164.193.17
#2099 [11:25] <Burnskagen> I get no response
#2100 [11:25] <kontroll> Harbinger: You do realize you did exactly what I wanted, no?
#2101 [11:25] <kontroll> :>
#2102 [11:26] <Harbinger> im happy for you
#2103 [11:26] <Burnskagen> :X
#2104 [11:26] <Burnskagen> brb
#2105 [11:26] <mbentley> i don't care what he calls it since i already have my always free license
#2106 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Indeed.
#2107 [11:27] <Burnskagen> I think alpha is awesome and totally worth the price on it's own
#2108 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> I got my 15 bucks of gameplay. Anything else is a plus
#2109 [11:27] <Harbinger> as do i
#2110 [11:27] <Burnskagen> so I don't mind
#2111 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Heck, I didn't even pay for it... A friend did.
#2112 [11:28] <Burnskagen> XD
#2113 [11:28] <Burnskagen> I did the same at first
#2114 [11:28] <Harbinger> its the fact that anybody has to pay for fucking updates that is ridiculous
#2115 [11:28] <Harbinger> what kind of indie developer makes people pay for updates
#2116 [11:28] <Burnskagen> Huh?
#2117 [11:28] <Burnskagen> People don't pay for updates
#2118 [11:28] <kontroll> Drugs are speaking, people. :>
#2119 [11:29] <kontroll> Stand back and enjoy the show.
#2120 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Pay.. for updates?
#2121 [11:29] <Harbinger> notch stated that only people who bought a license during alpha
#2122 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2123 [11:29] <Harbinger> receive free updates in the future
#2124 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Now you're just spewing lies.
#2125 [11:29] <Harbinger> let me get a source
#2126 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Alpha and Beta get free updates
#2127 [11:29] <mbentley> right but it has yet to be determined what he means by updates
#2128 [11:29] <Con> !check 127.0.0.1
#2129 [11:29] <kontroll> But it's fun to read, GreyVulpine. ^^
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#2131 [11:29] <fork> lol
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#2133 [11:30] <Harbinger> http://twitter.com/notch/status/13684847025328129
#2134 [11:30] <mbentley> it's not like he is going to charge for every minor update
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#2136 [11:30] <Harbinger> as far as we know
#2137 [11:30] <Harbinger> i am almost able to guarantee that beta users will have to pay for the final release
#2138 [11:30] <mbentley> this channel is for help
#2139 [11:31] <kontroll> How is that in any way saying "only people who bought a license during alpha"?
#2140 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> Harbinger - Nope
#2141 [11:32] <Harbinger> yeah i just looked it up
#2142 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/notch/status/16791411340877824
#2143 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> Read
#2144 [11:33] <Harbinger> it is believed they will have to pay for future dlc
#2145 [11:36] <smargooss> btw is it possible to craft anything from saddle?
#2146 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> No, and you can't even craft a saddle
#2147 [11:36] <Harbinger> dont think so
#2148 [11:36] <smargooss> k cause got a saddle and dont want to waste it on riding a pig
#2149 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's its only purpose right now
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#2151 [11:37] <kontroll> Question time!
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#2153 [11:38] <kontroll> Are the crafting recipes discovered by players, or published by herr Notch?
#2154 [11:38] <smargooss> is it possible to do gate for nether with out gem?
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#2156 [11:38] <vitium> Can I run the same copy of a game more than once on lan with different login names?
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#2158 [11:38] <vitium> Or is that against the terms of the license?
#2159 [11:39] <Harbinger> i cant see why you couldnt vitium
#2160 [11:39] <thereddeh> HELLO!
#2161 [11:39] <Harbinger> if you have 2 different logins i assume you paid for 2 licenses
#2162 [11:39] <vitium> Right ok thats what I was saying
#2163 [11:39] <kontroll> Anyone? ;P
#2164 [11:39] <vitium> So you need a license per use account
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#2166 [11:39] <tarnvogL> hi all
#2167 [11:39] <mbentley> not sure kontroll
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#2169 [11:39] <Harbinger> i believe so vitium
#2170 [11:39] <SevFTW> hey tarnvogL
#2171 [11:40] <vitium> Looks like I may be buying a third license then lol
#2172 [11:40] <tarnvogL> how can i host a minecraft server which uses omre than only 60mb RAM ?
#2173 [11:40] <kontroll> What on earth would you play three accounts for?
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#2175 [11:40] <thereddeh> 15 maps xD
#2176 [11:40] <tarnvogL> "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar" i dont know what to do with this code :(
#2177 [11:41] <tarnvogL> s.o can help me pls ?
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#2179 [11:41] <mbentley> what do you mean by 'which uses more than only 60mb ram'?
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#2181 [11:41] <mbentley> if your server is only using 60 MB of ram, then that is all it currently needs
#2182 [11:42] <tarnvogL> the console of the minecraft server shows that i only use 50-60mb RAM
#2183 [11:42] <mbentley> right, that's all it needs
#2184 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Then that's all it needs at the moment
#2185 [11:42] <tarnvogL> i have a good internet connection
#2186 [11:42] <tarnvogL> but its damn laggy
#2187 [11:42] <mbentley> if you run "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar" then the JVM starts with 1 gb allocated to it
#2188 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> tarnvogL - Wait for the update.. it'll be fixed
#2189 [11:43] <tarnvogL> hmkay
#2190 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Was because of the leaf decay bug... again
#2191 [11:43] <mbentley> GreyVulpine: should be ok now
#2192 [11:43] <mbentley> is for me
#2193 [11:43] <mbentley> at least
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#2195 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Ah, haven't looked at Notch's blog since yesterday
#2196 [11:43] <thereddeh> woo another update
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#2198 [11:44] <mbentley> ah yeah, he has released a few updates this morning
#2199 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Neat
#2200 [11:44] <tarnvogL> and HOW do i use this code "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar" ?
#2201 [11:44] <mbentley> it isn't code
#2202 [11:44] <mbentley> 11:42 < mbentley> if you run "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar" then the JVM starts with 1
#2203 [11:44] <mbentley> gb allocated to it
#2204 [11:44] <kontroll> GreyVulpine: Blog = the tumblr thing?
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#2206 [11:44] <thereddeh> wow much better performace.. like it was with alpha ;p
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#2208 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> tarnvogL - You type it in your terminal/command prompt/ or your batch file
#2209 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes kontroll
#2210 [11:44] <kontroll> /nod
#2211 [11:44] <kontroll> ty
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#2213 [11:45] <DigDug> whats up with an outdated server?
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#2215 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Clients are automatically updated.
#2216 [11:45] <mbentley> it needs to be updated
#2217 [11:45] <DopeGhoti> DigDug: well, there's a new server version out.
#2218 [11:45] <DigDug> this isnew to me
#2219 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Servers aren
#2220 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> t't
#2221 [11:45] <tarnvogL> thx GreyVulpine
#2222 [11:45] <DigDug> ooh
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#2224 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Server owners need to manually update
#2225 [11:45] <mbentley> basically the server admin needs to download the server .jar again and restart the server
#2226 [11:46] <mbentley> well, preferably stop, update, start :)
#2227 [11:46] <tarnvogL> a batch file doesnt work :(
#2228 [11:46] <DopeGhoti> thank goodness for cron, touch -r, find --newer, and wget -N
#2229 [11:46] <mbentley> you probably don't have java in the PATH variable
#2230 [11:46] <tarnvogL> and the console version too
#2231 [11:46] <mbentley> or you aren't using correct syntax
#2232 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> tarnvogL - What is it giving you?
#2233 [11:47] <tarnvogL> that he doesnt find the path
#2234 [11:47] <DigDug> i forgot where to get the server update at
#2235 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> You need to enter it in the same directory
#2236 [11:47] <DigDug> grrr
#2237 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> !server
#2238 [11:48] <DigDug> i had alot of help yesterday to get thsi started
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#2242 [11:51] <DigDug> i need to try and keep that server in favorites
#2243 [11:51] <DigDug> but i cant
#2244 [11:51] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#2245 [11:52] <mbentley> you could just put http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp in your favorites
#2246 [11:52] <Sepelio> Hi, can sb tell me how to write a batch-file to start the minecraft_server.jar using more RAM ?
#2247 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Sepelio - The -Xms and -Xmx arguments do that
#2248 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Look for an example at the minecraft.net website
#2249 [11:53] <DigDug> thnx guys
#2250 [11:53] <Sepelio> you mean this one : "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#2251 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2252 [11:53] <DigDug> you all ahve been a huge help
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#2254 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> the -Xms is the starting allocation, the -Xmx is the max allocation it'll go to
#2255 [11:53] <Sepelio> just put it into a textfile and save it as a .bat
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#2258 [11:53] <Sepelio> ?
#2259 [11:54] <mbentley> yes
#2260 [11:54] <Sepelio> i tried that nothing happens
#2261 [11:54] <mbentley> might have to add 'cd' commands or specify the full path
#2262 [11:55] <DopeGhoti> define 'nothing'
#2263 [11:55] <Sepelio> console opens/closes
#2264 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Is the batch file in the same directory as the .jar?
#2265 [11:55] <Sepelio> yes
#2266 [11:55] <DopeGhoti> okay, add one line at the end of that file: "pause"
#2267 [11:55] <DopeGhoti> run it again
#2268 [11:56] <DopeGhoti> and report what message you see
#2269 [11:56] <DopeGhoti> my bet: the ilk of "bad command or file name".
#2270 [11:56] <Sepelio> ok, wrong path
#2271 [11:56] <Sepelio> yes
#2272 [11:57] <DopeGhoti> your java executable isn't in your PATH envirnment variable
#2273 [11:57] <DopeGhoti> IDCR where it's stashed in Windows
#2274 [11:57] <mbentley> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#2275 [11:57] <Toxip> Leaf decay fixed yet?
#2276 [11:57] <DopeGhoti> ^that.
#2277 [11:57] <mbentley> something like that
#2278 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Usually it says something like Java is not a recognized command.
#2279 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Not bad command or file name
#2280 [11:57] <thereddeh> if u mean by fixed removes then yes
#2281 [11:57] <thereddeh> d
#2282 [11:57] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: yeah, I grep up with MS-DOS.
#2283 [11:57] * GreyVulpine nods
#2283 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> Same here.
#2284 [11:58] <thereddeh> same here
#2285 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> Sepelio - What's the exact error you get back from the command prompt?
#2286 [11:58] <Toxip> Dos... I remember launching grand theft auto 1 from dos :P
#2287 [11:59] <thereddeh> i remember indiana jones and the fate of atlantis xD
#2288 [11:59] <Sepelio> the command java is typed wrong
#2289 [11:59] <Sepelio> it says
#2290 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> That's the exact error?
#2291 [12:01] <Sepelio> yes
#2292 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you type: java -version
#2293 [12:01] <Sepelio> same again^^
#2294 [12:01] <thereddeh> install java? ;p
#2295 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah, it's your environment variables not being in PATH
#2296 [12:02] <Sepelio> :- P did so
#2297 [12:02] * GreyVulpine pauses Freelancer for a sec.
#2297 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Go to your control panel
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#2299 [12:02] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2300 [12:02] <thereddeh> booo play X3 :p
#2301 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Look for the java applet
#2302 [12:02] <DopeGhoti> thereddeh: <3
#2303 [12:02] <thereddeh> :D
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#2305 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> Still there Sepelio?
#2306 [12:04] <Sepelio> got version 6
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#2308 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, no, go to the java tab at the top
#2309 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Click on the 'view' button
#2310 [12:04] <Sepelio> made some update (last update 24.11.10)
#2311 [12:05] <Sepelio> ok...
#2312 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a path column heading
#2313 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> Should be c:\ something something
#2314 [12:06] <Sepelio> yes
#2315 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Could you paste that here?
#2316 [12:06] <Sepelio> C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe
#2317 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Great, thanks, you can close that now
#2318 [12:06] <DopeGhoti> erm
#2319 [12:06] <DopeGhoti> if you're running a 64-bit OS
#2320 [12:07] <DopeGhoti> why don't you have the 64-bit Java installed?
#2321 [12:07] * GreyVulpine kicks DopeGhoti.
#2321 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to
#2322 [12:07] <DopeGhoti> I know you don't _need_ to
#2323 [12:07] <smargooss> why u kicked?
#2324 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Sepelio, go to your start menu, right click on Computer.
#2325 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Go to properties
#2326 [12:07] <Sepelio> should i isntall the 64bit version for my problem?
#2327 [12:07] <Sepelio> ok
#2328 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Do you see Advanced system settings on the left side?
#2329 [12:08] <Sepelio> yes
#2330 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> Click on it
#2331 [12:08] <Burnskagen> jeg har ikke omgang med tr�r O_o
#2332 [12:08] <DopeGhoti> that's not causing the problems, per se, it was just a puzzlement. I'll stop distracting from the issue at hand.
#2333 [12:08] <Burnskagen> sorry, wrong window
#2334 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> Look for an "Environment variables" button
#2335 [12:08] <Sepelio> ok
#2336 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> The bottom panel has "System Variables"
#2337 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Look for a "Path" Variable
#2338 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Copy/paste the Value it has here.
#2339 [12:09] <aja> Help - Then someone trying to connect to my server, there coming a error: "Disconnected by server. Outdated server!".. How can I update the server?
#2340 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> !server
#2341 [12:10] <Sepelio> C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Autodesk\Backburner\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\
#2342 [12:10] <Sepelio> ô,Ô
#2343 [12:10] <Sepelio> o
#2344 [12:10] <Sepelio> wtf
#2345 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> Great, see how each path is seperated by a semicolon (;)?
#2346 [12:10] <Sepelio> i can see
#2347 [12:10] <DopeGhoti> aja: update your server
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#2349 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> You need to add this to the end: ;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\
#2350 [12:10] <aja> How?
#2351 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Autodesk\Backburner\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\
#2352 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> It'll look like that
#2353 [12:11] <Sepelio> ok did so
#2354 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> aja, just redownload the server again from the website
#2355 [12:11] <DopeGhoti> aja: get the new .jar from the link AuBot just pasted, put it in place, and restart the server.
#2356 [12:11] <aja> oh thanks :D
#2357 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> Sepelio, now, you can close it
#2358 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> Open up a new command prompt window, type in: java -version
#2359 [12:12] <Sepelio> ok 1.6.0_23
#2360 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> Great, your java PATH works now
#2361 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> Now try the batch file
#2362 [12:12] <Sepelio> mhh...unable to access
#2363 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Unable to access?
#2364 [12:13] <Sepelio> unable to access the jar file ....
#2365 [12:13] <DopeGhoti> is that the exact error message, or are you paraphrasing?
#2366 [12:13] <Sepelio> its the message sry :D
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#2368 [12:14] <DopeGhoti> and the batch file is in the same location as the .jar file, correct?
#2369 [12:14] <Sepelio> correct
#2370 [12:14] <DigDug> respawn point is just enter ?
#2371 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> And the jar file is named "Minecraft_server.jar"
#2372 [12:14] <Sepelio> yes
#2373 [12:15] * GreyVulpine headtilts.
#2373 [12:15] <DopeGhoti> waittaminute, isn't the Windows server an executable, not a .jar? (though I'd think the .jar should work, too..)
#2374 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> .jar should work too
#2375 [12:15] <DopeGhoti> like I said, I thought that. :)
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#2377 [12:17] <KART35|iPod> DopeGhoti: its a jar in a different gormar
#2378 [12:17] <KART35|iPod> format*
#2379 [12:18] <DopeGhoti> KART35|iPod: I figured the .exe was probably just a .JAR with a wrapper around it that says "Oi, Java! Run this!"
#2380 [12:18] * GLaDOS is now known as GLawayDOS
#2381 [12:18] <KART35|iPod> thats just what it is
#2382 [12:18] * DopeGhoti nods
#2382 [12:19] * GLawayDOS slaps KART35|iPod
#2382 [12:19] <GLawayDOS> stop making lies
#2383 [12:19] <KART35|iPod> but double clicling a . jar file will do the same thing
#2384 [12:19] <GLawayDOS> make one more lie, and i kick you
#2385 [12:19] <GLawayDOS> in the balls
#2386 [12:19] <GLawayDOS> and it will hurt
#2387 [12:20] <vitium> Can you play over lan without a user account on the website? i.e if you arent connected to internet can you play with multiple people through network
#2388 [12:20] <Sepelio> GreyVulpine still there?
#2389 [12:21] <KART35|iPod> only if the srever is runnning in lan mode iirc
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#2391 [12:21] <vitium> KART35|iPod: how can I change the server to lan mode?
#2392 [12:21] <DopeGhoti> vitium: IIRC the downloadable client will not be usable until you're logged in once to get Minecraft proper. To do that, you need an account.
#2393 [12:22] <vitium> DopeGhoti: So you need internet access for lan play?
#2394 [12:22] <KART35|iPod> well
#2395 [12:22] <KART35|iPod> urm
#2396 [12:22] <KART35|iPod> yes and no
#2397 [12:23] <vitium> KART35|iPod: It seems like yes because you have to login
#2398 [12:23] <KART35|iPod> first time you play, you need an internet connection to download the actual files
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#2400 [12:23] <DopeGhoti> Once you have logged in on the client and gotten the rest of Minecraft, the client will work offline
#2401 [12:23] <KART35|iPod> minecraft.jar is just a launcher
#2402 [12:24] <DopeGhoti> I don't know if there's a 'LAN Mode' per se for servers though
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#2404 [12:24] <vitium> DopeGhoti: Thats annoying
#2405 [12:24] <vitium> DopeGhoti: Lan play isnt really lan play :/
#2406 [12:25] <KART35|iPod> id check the forums
#2407 [12:25] <vitium> KART35|iPod: k thanks
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#2409 [12:26] <vitium> Found out, you can play LAN without internet but you need to set onlinemode to false in the servers config
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#2411 [12:28] <DopeGhoti> that won't really work
#2412 [12:28] <DopeGhoti> the first player to connect will get in, and be called 'Player'
#2413 [12:28] <DopeGhoti> other people won't be able to connect until the first one leaves
#2414 [12:29] <DopeGhoti> (I tried this when mc.net was down once)
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#2419 [12:35] <kontroll> So I take it the SMP disconnecting is fixified. :>
#2420 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> \o/
#2421 [12:36] <kontroll> Though I'd like word from someone who's actually tried. ;D
#2422 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> I'd love to confirm for you, but I wasn't one of the ones affected by that bug over the past couple days :/
#2423 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> (nor was my server)
#2424 [12:37] <kontroll> If you ran your own server, on the same puter, things were just fine, as I recall.
#2425 [12:37] <kontroll> :P
#2426 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> it wasn't on the same computer
#2427 [12:38] <kontroll> /nod
#2428 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> and I'm not the only one that uses my server. That's why it's a server :)
#2429 [12:38] <kontroll> Then I don't know. :)
#2430 [12:38] <kontroll> Oh, but I ran a server on my own puter just fine.
#2431 [12:38] <kontroll> And the guy I tested with got disconnected.
#2432 [12:38] <kontroll> And vice versa.
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#2434 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> Hm. Maybe _that_ was (one of) the cause(s) for that problem
#2435 [12:39] <kontroll> However, we could both play just fine on our own servers while the other was having problems.
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#2437 [12:39] <DopeGhoti> One of my clients was having his client crash whenever a sapling matured near him.
#2438 [12:39] <DopeGhoti> which I thought was odd.
#2439 [12:39] <DopeGhoti> that seems to no longer be happening, FWTW
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#2442 [12:40] <kontroll> :)
#2443 [12:44] <DigDug> doh a black screen
#2444 [12:44] <DigDug> thats not suppose to happen
#2445 [12:44] <Burnskagen> GreyVulpine
#2446 [12:44] <Burnskagen> can you help me again?`
#2447 [12:44] <Burnskagen> Somehow, the port still isn't open :S
#2448 [12:45] <kontroll> Burnskagen: It's generally cleverer to just ask right out. If people can and/or want to help, they will. :)
#2449 [12:45] <Burnskagen> oh, ok
#2450 [12:45] <Burnskagen> well :D
#2451 [12:45] <kontroll> :)
#2452 [12:45] <Burnskagen> The conclusion so far is
#2453 [12:45] <kontroll> Have you forwarded said port to the right address?
#2454 [12:46] <Burnskagen> it must be firewall
#2455 [12:46] <Burnskagen> I think so
#2456 [12:46] <Burnskagen> but I can check it once more
#2457 [12:46] <Burnskagen> I go to my router right?
#2458 [12:46] <kontroll> You can connect to your external IP to see what happens.
#2459 [12:46] <Burnskagen> ok
#2460 [12:46] <kontroll> Well. First and foremost, find out your internal IP.
#2461 [12:47] <Burnskagen> The default gateway?
#2462 [12:47] <kontroll> /shake head
#2463 [12:47] <kontroll> Windows?
#2464 [12:47] <Burnskagen> yes
#2465 [12:47] <Burnskagen> windows 7
#2466 [12:47] <kontroll> Press Win+R.
#2467 [12:47] <kontroll> You'll get a little dialog.
#2468 [12:47] <Burnskagen> yes
#2469 [12:47] <kontroll> Enter 'cmd' and press OK.
#2470 [12:48] <kontroll> Type in 'ipconfig'.
#2471 [12:48] <Burnskagen> ok
#2472 [12:48] <smargooss> thank greyvulpine and that other
#2473 [12:48] <kontroll> You'll get a load of crap.
#2474 [12:48] <smargooss> it works
#2475 [12:48] <kontroll> Look for something like 192.168 etc. That's usually your internal IP.
#2476 [12:48] <smargooss> now
#2477 [12:48] <Burnskagen> I can't find anything
#2478 [12:48] <kontroll> IPv4-address, mine says.
#2479 [12:48] <Burnskagen> it says LAN
#2480 [12:49] <Burnskagen> 10.0.0.2
#2481 [12:49] <Burnskagen> connection spesific DNS sufix: LAN
#2482 [12:49] <kontroll> Oh. Alright, and gateway 10.0.0.1 or something, yes?
#2483 [12:49] <Burnskagen> yeah, 10.0.0.138
#2484 [12:49] <DigDug> how do ya find non griefers?
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#2486 [12:50] <kontroll> Odd setup. Really odd. :P
#2487 [12:50] <kontroll> But okay. Open your router config then.
#2488 [12:50] <Burnskagen> ok
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#2490 [12:50] <Burnskagen> I have speedtouch 546
#2491 [12:50] <Burnskagen> I'm there
#2492 [12:50] <DopeGhoti> (huh. The only consumer devices I've seen that use the 10.0.0.0/8 network are Apple's.)
#2493 [12:50] <kontroll> Assuming you've already been over this, you should know where to set up the forwarding rules, mm?
#2494 [12:51] <Burnskagen> Yeah
#2495 [12:51] <kontroll> DopeGhoti: I'm a bit surprised myself, but I've seen it before at least. :P
#2496 [12:51] <Burnskagen> Well, the main computer on the network is a mac
#2497 [12:51] <Burnskagen> So that might be making things odd
#2498 [12:51] <kontroll> Burnskagen: Alright, and what does your current rule look like?
#2499 [12:51] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: is your connection going _through_ the mac, or is it just on your network?
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#2501 [12:52] <Burnskagen> I'm quite sure this and the mac are both connected to the same modem/router
#2502 [12:52] <Burnskagen> but I don't think it goes trough
#2503 [12:52] * DopeGhoti nods
#2503 [12:52] <kontroll> Easy to check, you know.
#2504 [12:52] <Burnskagen> Any 25565 - 25565 5555 - 5555 Any 25565
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#2506 [12:53] <kontroll> Burnskagen: To satisfy DopeGhoti... when your mac is turned off, can you access the web on the current puter? :P
#2507 [12:53] <Burnskagen> yeah
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#2509 [12:53] <kontroll> There you go, DopeGhoti. ;)
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#2511 [12:53] <kontroll> Burnskagen: What's that 5555 - 5555?
#2512 [12:53] <Burnskagen> Protocol: Any Port range: 25565 - 25565 Translate to: 5555 - 5555
#2513 [12:54] <Burnskagen> and then it's trigger port
#2514 [12:54] <Burnskagen> and trigger protocol
#2515 [12:54] <kontroll> Oh. Is your minecraft server set to port 5555?
#2516 [12:54] <Burnskagen> nope, but I have no idea where these numbers come from
#2517 [12:54] <Burnskagen> :O
#2518 [12:54] <Burnskagen> Is that the problem?
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#2520 [12:55] <kontroll> Remove the translate stuff and try that. Or change to the identical port range.
#2521 [12:55] <kontroll> Not that you need a range, but since that's what you have to enter. ;>
#2522 [12:55] <kontroll> And yes.
#2523 [12:55] <kontroll> Your router is accepting data on 25565 and sending it to your computer on port 5555.
#2524 [12:55] <kontroll> But you don't have any software listening on 5555.
#2525 [12:56] <Burnskagen> :D thanks for the help
#2526 [12:56] <kontroll> Don't thank me yet. ;P
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#2530 [12:58] <Burnskagen> OK, I'm gonna try now
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#2532 [12:59] <WTFClock> Hello
#2533 [12:59] <ConMan8> WTF it's a clock
#2534 [12:59] <WTFClock> lol
#2535 [12:59] <WTFClock> I need help :S
#2536 [12:59] <ConMan8> surprise
#2537 [12:59] <WTFClock> lol
#2538 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> you may have come to the right place
#2539 [12:59] <ZerOmega> financial help?
#2540 [12:59] <WTFClock> no xD
#2541 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> psychiatric help?
#2542 [13:00] <WTFClock> Noap
#2543 [13:00] <WTFClock> I can't find how to add commands on a server
#2544 [13:00] <WTFClock> Like /title and whatnot
#2545 [13:00] <DopeGhoti> That's because there's no way to (legitimately) do so as of yet.
#2546 [13:00] <WTFClock> really?
#2547 [13:00] <DopeGhoti> really.
#2548 [13:00] <WTFClock> does mcsharp have /title?
#2549 [13:00] <DopeGhoti> mcsharp isn't an official minecraft release.
#2550 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> it's not even made by Mojang.
#2551 [13:01] <WTFClock> I play classic :S
#2552 [13:01] <ConMan8> oh, Classic
#2553 [13:01] <WTFClock> yeah
#2554 [13:01] <WTFClock> And the /color command is restricted
#2555 [13:01] <WTFClock> or disabled
#2556 [13:01] <WTFClock> how do i fix this
#2557 [13:02] <WTFClock> :o
#2558 [13:02] <kontroll> Burnskagen: You're taking an awful long time. :P
#2559 [13:02] <ConMan8> err
#2560 [13:02] <Burnskagen> back
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#2562 [13:02] <ConMan8> MCSharp has a fork.. which is MCZall.. and then that has a fork with is MCLawl
#2563 [13:02] <Burnskagen> I had to speak to my friend
#2564 [13:02] <Burnskagen> and get him on
#2565 [13:03] <Burnskagen> so, it didn't work D:
#2566 [13:03] <kontroll> :P
#2567 [13:03] <kontroll> Well.
#2568 [13:03] <Burnskagen> he is still getting "Connection timeout"
#2569 [13:03] <kontroll> You said you have trigger port.
#2570 [13:03] <kontroll> Try finding a proper forward.
#2571 [13:03] <kontroll> I'm pretty sure it's for outgoing.
#2572 [13:03] <kontroll> Now that I think about it.
#2573 [13:04] <Burnskagen> I have no idea how to find a proper forward :)
#2574 [13:04] <Burnskagen> could you help me out?
#2575 [13:04] <ConMan8> ..huh
#2576 [13:04] <kontroll> On my router I can choose between: Port Range Forward
#2577 [13:04] <kontroll> |
#2578 [13:04] <kontroll> Port Triggering
#2579 [13:04] <ConMan8> * WTFClock (WTFClock@c-71-201-210-9.hsd1.il.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Client Exited)
#2580 [13:04] * ConMan8 sighs
#2580 [13:05] <mbentley> port range forward
#2581 [13:05] <mbentley> just set the range to just the port
#2582 [13:05] <mbentley> 25565 to 25565
#2583 [13:05] <Burnskagen> ok
#2584 [13:05] <kontroll> Indeed.
#2585 [13:05] <kontroll> That's what I did.
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#2587 [13:05] <kontroll> mbentley: I'm not the one asking for help, btw. ;>
#2588 [13:05] <kontroll> Not this time. :D
#2589 [13:06] <mbentley> heh
#2590 [13:07] <Burnskagen> TCP or UDP?
#2591 [13:07] <mbentley> tcp
#2592 [13:07] <Burnskagen> ok
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#2594 [13:08] <Burnskagen> Use UPnP: Yes
#2595 [13:08] <Burnskagen> Use Extended Security: Yes
#2596 [13:08] <Burnskagen> Is that correct?
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#2598 [13:09] <mbentley> upnp doesn't matter with minecraft
#2599 [13:09] <kontroll> Try.
#2600 [13:09] <kontroll> :P
#2601 [13:09] <mbentley> not sure what extended security is
#2602 [13:09] <kontroll> Indeed.
#2603 [13:09] <mbentley> were you able to connect to your server on the lan from another pc then?
#2604 [13:09] <Burnskagen> Nope
#2605 [13:09] <Burnskagen> but that's a while ago
#2606 [13:09] <DigDug> THE BLACK SCREEN IS KILLN ME
#2607 [13:09] <Burnskagen> I am talking with a friend online
#2608 [13:09] <DigDug> sorry caps
#2609 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> DigDug: bring more torches.
#2610 [13:10] <tetsuraryuuken> Am I not the only one having problems connecting to my own Minecraft server?
#2611 [13:10] <DigDug> lol, thats not it but good idea
#2612 [13:10] <mbentley> because if you still aren't able to do so, then changing settings on your router won't really do anything since the problem would still be on your server pc
#2613 [13:10] <Burnskagen> I still suspect McAffee
#2614 [13:10] <Burnskagen> that evil bastard
#2615 [13:10] <mbentley> tetsuraryuuken: how are you trying to connect? if you are running the server and client on the same system, just connect using 127.0.0.1 or localhost
#2616 [13:11] <kontroll> McAfee*
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#2618 [13:11] <kontroll> Does it have some firewall pissery, Burnskagen?
#2619 [13:11] <Burnskagen> indeed
#2620 [13:11] <kontroll> Turned it off?
#2621 [13:11] <Burnskagen> yes
#2622 [13:11] <Burnskagen> but it is overprotective
#2623 [13:11] <Burnskagen> and does stuff even though it's of
#2624 [13:11] <mbentley> turning off mcafee doesn't really turn it off
#2625 [13:11] <kontroll> If it's off, I don't see how it would cause problems.
#2626 [13:11] <kontroll> Ugh.
#2627 [13:12] <kontroll> So it's another Norton.
#2628 [13:12] <tetsuraryuuken> mbentley: I've tried both, but the server says I connect, then 5 seconds later it disconnects me saying "You need to log in"
#2629 [13:12] <kontroll> Great stuff.
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#2631 [13:12] <tetsuraryuuken> And Minecraft crashes.
#2632 [13:12] <ConMan8> You need to log in only happens on classic servers
#2633 [13:12] <kontroll> Oh, a friend of mine mentioned Minecraft clans. I went "wtf".
#2634 [13:12] <kontroll> What's up with that?
#2635 [13:13] <Burnskagen> No idea
#2636 [13:13] <Burnskagen> it sounds a bit
#2637 [13:13] <Burnskagen> odd
#2638 [13:13] <tetsuraryuuken> ConMan8: Is there a way to fix this?
#2639 [13:13] <kontroll> It does.
#2640 [13:13] <kontroll> I can just imagine...
#2641 [13:13] <Burnskagen> XD
#2642 [13:13] <kontroll> Groups of people foraging for supplies.
#2643 [13:13] <kontroll> Raiding each others' camps.
#2644 [13:13] <ConMan8> tetsuraryuuken: Stop using the wrong Minecraft?
#2645 [13:13] <ConMan8> xD
#2646 [13:13] <kontroll> And hunkering down overnight.
#2647 [13:13] <tetsuraryuuken> D:
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#2650 [13:14] <tetsuraryuuken> Wait, I should download the beta version?
#2651 [13:14] <Burnskagen> It would be giving outdated server message wouldn't it?
#2652 [13:14] <tetsuraryuuken> I feel retarded, now. :|
#2653 [13:15] <tetsuraryuuken> No... I've got the full beta version.
#2654 [13:15] <Burnskagen> You ,must download server exe too
#2655 [13:15] <ConMan8> You're connecting to a classic server apparently
#2656 [13:15] <Burnskagen> the new one
#2657 [13:15] <tetsuraryuuken> Any way I can change my server to the newer ones?
#2658 [13:16] <Burnskagen> Just download the updated server software
#2659 [13:16] <ConMan8> the beta server is on the same page as the client
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#2661 [13:16] <tetsuraryuuken> Hmmm, I'll see what I can do from there.
#2662 [13:16] <Burnskagen> I'm going to McAfee's page now. If it doesn't say anything / have any tutorials I am going to contact support
#2663 [13:17] <tetsuraryuuken> It only shows the Alpha server software
#2664 [13:17] <tetsuraryuuken> on the Minecraft site.
#2665 [13:17] <Burnskagen> O_o
#2666 [13:17] <Burnskagen> no
#2667 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> tetsuraryuuken: it says alpha, but it's the beta server
#2668 [13:17] <mbentley> !server
#2669 [13:17] <tetsuraryuuken> okay
#2670 [13:18] <CruelNoise> MineCraft is just black when I try to play it.
#2671 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> tetsuraryuuken: the sever will tell you what version it is when you start it
#2672 [13:18] <tetsuraryuuken> Brilliant
#2673 [13:18] <kontroll> Burnskagen: In that case, be very clear when you say you already know which port you need and that the software in question doesn't matter. They'll probably do anything they can to say they don't support other software.
#2674 [13:18] <CruelNoise> I've realized that this happens when OpenGL starts. Does anyone know if there's a way to fix this?
#2675 [13:18] <ConMan8> yes
#2676 [13:19] <tetsuraryuuken> By George that did it!
#2677 [13:19] <DopeGhoti> tetsuraryuuken: you should see: [SERVER] [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.1_02
#2678 [13:19] <ConMan8> CruelNoise: Start Minecraft with -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false
#2679 [13:19] <tetsuraryuuken> Thanks for your help, all.
#2680 [13:19] <CruelNoise> ConMan8: thanks, bro
#2681 [13:19] <CruelNoise> see if that works
#2682 [13:19] <tetsuraryuuken> I'm off.
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#2684 [13:20] <CruelNoise> ConMan8: nope
#2685 [13:21] <CruelNoise> ConMan8: you mean as an argument running the .exe from cmd, right?
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#2687 [13:21] <ConMan8> yeah, or a .bat
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#2690 [13:22] <CruelNoise> so, minecraft.exe -Dsun.java2.opengl=false
#2691 [13:22] <CruelNoise> didn't change anything
#2692 [13:22] <CruelNoise> I get the log in screen, the update screen, but no game.
#2693 [13:22] <ConMan8> -Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true -Dsun.awt.noerasebackground=true -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false -Dsun.java2d.pmoffscreen=false
#2694 [13:23] <ConMan8> are the other graphics disables
#2695 [13:23] <ConMan8> :3
#2696 [13:23] <ConMan8> oh
#2697 [13:23] <ConMan8> The command line options don't work with the .exe
#2698 [13:23] <CruelNoise> oh
#2699 [13:23] <ConMan8> only the .jar
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#2701 [13:23] <CruelNoise> hardy har
#2702 [13:23] <CruelNoise> where can I get the jar
#2703 [13:23] <kontroll> You have it. Question is where you access it. ;>
#2704 [13:24] <CruelNoise> ooh
#2705 [13:24] <CruelNoise> I think I remember this one
#2706 [13:24] <kontroll> On Windows: %appdata%\.minecraft\bin I believe.
#2707 [13:24] <OldSnake> when i try launching the .jar it says "java" is not a recognized....
#2708 [13:24] <CruelNoise> %appdata% or some shit
#2709 [13:24] <CruelNoise> yes
#2710 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Blarg?
#2711 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> !client
#2712 [13:24] <OldSnake> but i have the most recent version of java
#2713 [13:24] <CruelNoise> OldSnake: find your java directory
#2714 [13:24] <CruelNoise> and use the java.exe instead of just java
#2715 [13:24] <CruelNoise> for example
#2716 [13:24] <CruelNoise> C:
#2717 [13:24] <CruelNoise> er
#2718 [13:24] <CruelNoise> C:\Program Files\Java\...\java.exe
#2719 [13:25] <CruelNoise> something like that
#2720 [13:25] <CruelNoise> or you change your system variables
#2721 [13:25] <OldSnake> i found the java.exe
#2722 [13:25] <CruelNoise> okay
#2723 [13:26] <CruelNoise> just just instead of "java" in the command, write the path to the java.exe
#2724 [13:26] <CruelNoise> in quotation marks
#2725 [13:26] <OldSnake> version 1.6.0_07
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#2727 [13:27] <ConMan8> net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2728 [13:28] <OldSnake> what do i change the path of java on?
#2729 [13:29] <mbentley> the command you use to launch the server
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#2732 [13:30] <CruelNoise> i hate DOS
#2733 [13:30] <CruelNoise> unix or unix-likes make so much more sense
#2734 [13:31] <CruelNoise> god damn it I want a shortcut for my home folder.
#2735 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> I think there's a %Varaible% for that
#2736 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> sadly, it's not '~'.
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#2738 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> or $HOME
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#2740 [13:32] <CruelNoise> The thing is I don't use the DOS command line very much anyways
#2741 [13:33] <CruelNoise> so I don't bother with that stuffs
#2742 [13:33] <OldSnake> whenever i try connecting to my server i get kicked for needed to log in
#2743 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> Even so, it'd be nice to hit Win-R, ~/bin/script.cmd
#2744 [13:33] <CruelNoise> anyways, ConMan8, it gives me an error when I try to java.exe minecraft.jar -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false
#2745 [13:34] <CruelNoise> or when I try to java.exe minecraft.jar
#2746 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> erm
#2747 [13:34] <ConMan8> java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false
#2748 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> java.exe -jar minecraft.jar?
#2749 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> er, -cp
#2750 [13:34] <CruelNoise> hurr durr
#2751 [13:34] <CruelNoise> thanks
#2752 [13:35] <ConMan8> next time I'm just posting the entire thing instead of bits of it
#2753 [13:35] <CruelNoise> lol
#2754 [13:35] <kontroll> There is %userprofile%.
#2755 [13:35] <kontroll> Not that it matters terribly.
#2756 [13:35] <kontroll> /late
#2757 [13:36] <OldSnake> how come when i try connecting to my own server i get kicked for not being logged in?
#2758 [13:36] <CruelNoise> okay
#2759 [13:36] <mbentley> trying to connect to a classic server?
#2760 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> You sure you're running minecraft_server?
#2761 [13:36] <CruelNoise> C:
#2762 [13:37] <OldSnake> i run start server.bat
#2763 [13:37] <OldSnake> it loads the server
#2764 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> That's a classic server
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#2766 [13:37] <mbentley> deja vu
#2767 [13:37] <OldSnake> how do i run a beta server then?
#2768 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> !server
#2769 [13:38] <CruelNoise> http://pastebin.com/YtWQk7XK
#2770 [13:38] <CruelNoise> ConMan8: i get that error -.-
#2771 [13:39] <ConMan8> damn you Java
#2772 [13:39] <mbentley> you are missing the M after -Xmx51
#2773 [13:39] <mbentley> 2
#2774 [13:39] <mbentley> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false
#2775 [13:39] <ConMan8> Xmx51?
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#2778 [13:39] <mbentley> sorry, got cut off
#2779 [13:39] <ConMan8> needs 2M on the end
#2780 [13:39] <CruelNoise> crap
#2781 [13:39] <CruelNoise> thanks
#2782 [13:39] <mbentley> you have '-Xmx512' and it has to be '-Xmx512M'
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#2784 [13:40] <OldSnake> yay it finally worked!
#2785 [13:40] <xaviergmail> why do they call a watch a clock when you can't even hang it on your wall?
#2786 [13:40] <OldSnake> thanks for the help
#2787 [13:41] <mbentley> i substitute 'javaw.exe' for 'java.exe' so i don't have the extra window open
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#2790 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> xaviergmail: watches are clocks.
#2791 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> they're just.. small, portable clocks.
#2792 [13:44] <NighT> Is there a fix yet to the outdated server message on multiplayer?
#2793 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> clock(n): A device that displays the current time
#2794 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> NighT: yes: update your server.
#2795 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> or have your server's admin so do
#2796 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> er, do so
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#2801 [13:45] <CruelNoise> ConMan8: http://pastebin.com/wzYuZn8F
#2802 [13:46] <mbentley> do you have minecraft.jar on your desktop?
#2803 [13:46] <ConMan8> whaat
#2804 [13:46] <ConMan8> no main class
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#2807 [13:47] <mbentley> the file is missing
#2808 [13:47] <mbentley> you need to be in the same directory as 'minecraft.jar'
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#2812 [13:49] <CruelNoise> I am -.-
#2813 [13:49] <CruelNoise> It's on my desktop
#2814 [13:49] <CruelNoise> as am I.
#2815 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> CruelNoise: which is? Minecraft.jar or minecraft.jar? Yes, they are different.
#2816 [13:49] <CruelNoise> fuck
#2817 [13:49] <ConMan8> is the patch to minecraft.jar correct?
#2818 [13:49] <CruelNoise> I have minecraft.jar
#2819 [13:49] <CruelNoise> where do I get the caps?
#2820 [13:50] <mbentley> !client
#2821 [13:50] <DopeGhoti> say Minecraft.jar is the one you get from the website which, after you log in, gets minecraft.jar
#2822 [13:50] <CruelNoise> uhm
#2823 [13:50] <CruelNoise> I got it at the second link
#2824 [13:50] <mbentley> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.jar
#2825 [13:50] <CruelNoise> thank you.
#2826 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> right, that's the client-wrapper which gets the actual client (lowercase-m minecraft.jar) once you log in
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#2828 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> and stashes it in ~/.minecraft or %AppData%/Minecraft
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#2830 [13:51] <mbentley> Kealper: the !client .jar link is wrong
#2831 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> indeed
#2832 [13:52] <CruelNoise> damn it.
#2833 [13:52] <CruelNoise> Still not working
#2834 [13:52] <mbentley> they are definitely two different files
#2835 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: in !client output, s/minecraft.jar/Minecraft.jar/
#2836 [13:52] <mbentley> same error
#2837 [13:52] <mbentley> ?
#2838 [13:52] <CruelNoise> different error
#2839 [13:52] <CruelNoise> but It's just the same as if I ran the exe
#2840 [13:53] <mbentley> ah
#2841 [13:53] <CruelNoise> I get the log in screen
#2842 [13:53] <CruelNoise> the update screen
#2843 [13:53] <CruelNoise> but after that it's all black
#2844 [13:53] <CruelNoise> a while back, someone drew the correlationb between that and openGL
#2845 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> CruelNoise: okay, hit Win-R, type '%AppData%', and press enter
#2846 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> you should see an Explorer window appear
#2847 [13:54] <CruelNoise> here's the output http://pastebin.com/BGTFY2j5
#2848 [13:54] <CruelNoise> yeah
#2849 [13:54] <CruelNoise> Ive been to appdata
#2850 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> in there, you should see a minecraft directory
#2851 [13:54] <CruelNoise> yes
#2852 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> in there, you'll see bin
#2853 [13:54] <CruelNoise> yes
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#2855 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> in _there_, you'll see minecraft.jar
#2856 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> try running _that_
#2857 [13:54] <CruelNoise> that's what I was running before
#2858 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> I thought you said it was on your desktop
#2859 [13:55] <CruelNoise> gave me an error and this output http://pastebin.com/wzYuZn8F
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#2861 [13:55] <CruelNoise> yeah
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#2863 [13:55] <CruelNoise> I tried running it in the %appdata% folder too
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#2865 [13:55] <CruelNoise> same error
#2866 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> aaah, I think I see what's going on
#2867 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> minecraft.jar isn't designed to be run directly
#2868 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> it has to be called by Minecraft.{exe,jar}
#2869 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> which is the one that has main()
#2870 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> and that, I'm afraid, is about where my Java-fu runs out :p
#2871 [13:57] <CruelNoise> well, it doesn't work from the exe either
#2872 [13:58] <mbentley> have you updated your video drivers?
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#2874 [13:59] <CruelNoise> yes
#2875 [13:59] <CruelNoise> recently
#2876 [13:59] <CruelNoise> a couple days ago
#2877 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> silly idea:
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#2879 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> create a new Windows user (thus, a clean profile) and see if you have the same issue when logged in as that user
#2880 [14:01] <CruelNoise> okay
#2881 [14:01] <bacon_burger> does someone here have linux?
#2882 [14:01] <CruelNoise> yeah
#2883 [14:01] <bacon_burger> my microphone isn't working
#2884 [14:01] <bacon_burger> :(
#2885 [14:01] <mbentley> yay linux
#2886 [14:02] <mbentley> and yes
#2887 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> It is plugged in? :)
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#2889 [14:02] <bacon_burger> yes
#2890 [14:02] <mbentley> check in alsamixer?
#2891 [14:02] <bacon_burger> inh sound preference its like disabled
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#2893 [14:02] <bacon_burger> i did
#2894 [14:02] <mbentley> make sure it isn't muted
#2895 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> so.. enable it?
#2896 [14:02] <mbentley> hmm
#2897 [14:02] <bacon_burger> how dope
#2898 [14:02] <Velikoth> Hello all, can someone help me out with a problem people are having connecting to my server SMP?
#2899 [14:03] <bacon_burger> did you port forward?
#2900 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> what flavor of Linux? If a GUI, what GUI? What sound engine?
#2901 [14:03] <Velikoth> Yes
#2902 [14:03] <mbentley> sure. need some info
#2903 [14:03] <mbentley> like what error, etc
#2904 [14:03] <bacon_burger> linux mint 10 julia
#2905 [14:03] <Velikoth> He connects fine, then about a minute later, he DC's with this message in server console: [username] lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#2906 [14:03] <ConMan8> lol
#2907 [14:03] <ConMan8> No reason
#2908 [14:03] <mbentley> wow, that is quite generic
#2909 [14:03] <kontroll> That's...
#2910 [14:03] <kontroll> Nice.
#2911 [14:04] <Velikoth> I know, he gets it when connecting through the browser and the downloadable clients
#2912 [14:04] <bacon_burger> DopeGhoti: linux mint 10 julia
#2913 [14:04] <Velikoth> We've both updated Java but he still gets it
#2914 [14:04] <CruelNoise> Nope
#2915 [14:04] <mbentley> did you say you checked in alsamixer?
#2916 [14:04] <CruelNoise> didn't change anything
#2917 [14:04] <bacon_burger> yes i did
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#2919 [14:05] <bacon_burger> in sound preferences > input > volume I cant change it
#2920 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> in my alsamixer, my mic is muted, but I can unmute it just fine. Can't actually test the mic 'cause the box is at home and I'm at work :p
#2921 [14:06] <Velikoth> So guys, any idea what might be causing our error?
#2922 [14:06] <ConMan8> there is no spoon I mean error
#2923 [14:06] <mbentley> are you certain you have the latest server?
#2924 [14:07] <Velikoth> Well obviously there is, else he wouldn't be DC'ing
#2925 [14:07] <Velikoth> yes
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#2927 [14:07] <Coll> ahhh
#2928 [14:07] <Coll> minecraft is playable again
#2929 [14:07] <Coll> this patch was good
#2930 [14:07] <Velikoth> the feeling aint mutual lol
#2931 [14:08] <Coll> oh?
#2932 [14:08] <Coll> what happened with you?
#2933 [14:08] <Velikoth> my SMP is totally broken
#2934 [14:08] <bacon_burger> is it a beta smp or an alpha
#2935 [14:08] <Velikoth> Can I ask one of you to connect to it? Just to see if its a problem with my server or with his client alone
#2936 [14:08] <bacon_burger> ip?
#2937 [14:08] <Velikoth> i'm pretty sure its beta, i can connect to it with the beta client
#2938 [14:08] <Velikoth> one sec
#2939 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> Velikoth: I've seen GenericReason disconnects on my server too, but when I ask my players about them, they say they just had normally quit.
#2940 [14:09] <lemon-rev> yo help is there site to tell what newest update did for mc
#2941 [14:09] <Coll> yes
#2942 [14:09] <Velikoth> 89.202.248.251:58395
#2943 [14:09] <Coll> notched tubmlr
#2944 [14:09] <Coll> google it
#2945 [14:09] <Coll> I mispelled tumblr though
#2946 [14:09] <lemon-rev> The webpage cannot be displayed
#2947 [14:09] <mbentley> http://notch.tumblr.com/
#2948 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: http://tinyurl.com/33ammnx
#2949 [14:10] <bacon_burger> is there a _03 already?
#2950 [14:10] <lemon-rev> k
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#2952 [14:11] <mbentley> bacon_burger: no
#2953 [14:12] <bacon_burger> sorry
#2954 [14:12] <bacon_burger> my keyboard stopped working
#2955 [14:13] <bacon_burger> and Velikoth when I;m on my desktop client it says outdated client
#2956 [14:14] <lemon-rev> wat muli play atm seems like its running 150 % lol ill see
#2957 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: gesundheit.
#2958 [14:15] <Velikoth> Hmm
#2959 [14:16] <lemon-rev> gesundheilt ?
#2960 [14:16] <Velikoth> What does that mean? My server is outdated?
#2961 [14:16] <Coll> possibly
#2962 [14:16] <lemon-rev> new server.exe is working just fine more than 1 min this time and no complaint about sound yay
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#2965 [14:16] <Velikoth> hmm, is there any major difference between the .exe and the .jar?
#2966 [14:16] <bacon_burger> Velikoth: u closed server :(
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#2968 [14:16] <lemon-rev> hm
#2969 [14:17] <bacon_burger> .jar more stable imo
#2970 [14:17] <Velikoth> yeah, downloading the new one
#2971 [14:17] <lemon-rev> ones much easyer to run
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#2973 [14:17] <Velikoth> ok, i'll try that
#2974 [14:17] <bacon_burger> cause .jar didnt convert to .exe
#2975 [14:17] <lemon-rev> i see
#2976 [14:17] <lemon-rev> just grab first exe but atm its working over time , doing good, a little laggy but ok
#2977 [14:18] <bacon_burger> no .exe fails to run servers imo
#2978 [14:18] <lemon-rev> hm
#2979 [14:18] <Coll> bacon
#2980 [14:18] <lemon-rev> im running just fine with latest one
#2981 [14:18] <Velikoth> Connection refused: connect
#2982 [14:18] <Coll> that is a lie
#2983 [14:18] <Velikoth> >:|
#2984 [14:18] <Coll> the .exe has worked fine for me
#2985 [14:18] <bacon_burger> .jar > exe
#2986 [14:18] <mbentley> i couldn't get the exe to work at all for me
#2987 [14:19] * bacon_burger is now known as xaviergmail
#2988 [14:19] <Velikoth> try to connect now, 89.202.248.251:58395
#2989 [14:19] <mbentley> that pesky 'running linux' thing...
#2990 [14:19] <Coll> other then the .jar being a big harder to run I dont really see any difference
#2991 [14:19] <Velikoth> some awesome lava pool above ground next to spawn
#2992 [14:19] <xaviergmail> ye im on linux too
#2993 [14:19] <mbentley> :)
#2994 [14:19] <xaviergmail> mint 10
#2995 [14:19] <xaviergmail> new linux user
#2996 [14:19] <Coll> anyways does the server not use as much system resources?
#2997 [14:19] <mbentley> compared to?
#2998 [14:19] <xaviergmail> veli
#2999 [14:19] <Velikoth> hi
#3000 [14:19] <xaviergmail> connection refused
#3001 [14:19] <Coll> compared to before beta
#3002 [14:19] <Velikoth> oh oops
#3003 [14:20] <lemon-rev> xaviergmail what ip your trying to use
#3004 [14:20] <Velikoth> change the port to 25565
#3005 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> IMO it uses more
#3006 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> at least, more CPU
#3007 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> RAM usage is about the same
#3008 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> a little bit list disk I/O.
#3009 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> the CPU usage increase seems also related to leaves.
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#3011 [14:21] <Coll> dam
#3012 [14:21] <Coll> that sucks
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#3014 [14:21] <mib_9zy4mt> who here knows their way with servers?
#3015 [14:21] <lemon-rev> last report they fixed that leaves crap
#3016 [14:21] <lemon-rev> but im still on server atm and tiny lag but running fine
#3017 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> many people do, mib_9zy4mt .
#3018 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> did you have a question, mib_9zy4mt ?
#3019 [14:23] <mib_9zy4mt> ive set up a server in beta but i dont know how to setup commands like in minecraft classic. and how to reset levels
#3020 [14:23] <mbentley> /help from the console will tell you admin commands
#3021 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> say there is no (legitimate) adding of commands.
#3022 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> to reset the level, delete the world.
#3023 [14:24] <mib_9zy4mt> i did that and there isnt much
#3024 [14:24] <mbentley> that is all the vanilla server comes with
#3025 [14:24] <mib_9zy4mt> so i cant set levels like in classic?
#3026 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> No.
#3027 [14:24] <mib_9zy4mt> vanilla server?
#3028 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> That may be coming back in the future once Notch re-adds Creative mode though
#3029 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> vanilla classic, you couldn't either, you had to download a modded server
#3030 [14:24] <mbentley> vanilla = plain
#3031 [14:24] <mbentley> aka without mods
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#3033 [14:25] <mib_9zy4mt> oh ok
#3034 [14:25] <mib_9zy4mt> well thats dumb
#3035 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> Also, the mod API will be helpful I imagine.
#3036 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> but that doesn't exist yet
#3037 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Indeed.
#3038 [14:25] <Velikoth> ok, try now, xavier
#3039 [14:25] <xaviergmail> port?
#3040 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> starboard.
#3041 [14:25] <Velikoth> 58395
#3042 [14:25] <mib_9zy4mt> oh and is there a way to set up the servers with less lag?
#3043 [14:25] <CruelNoise> hah
#3044 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> yes: have lots of RAM and throughput for the server.
#3045 [14:26] <CruelNoise> I used to use the name xavierman13. It's still my email address, too.
#3046 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes, buy a blade server that's set up next to an intercontinental backbone.
#3047 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Preferably OC-192 lines.
#3048 [14:26] <mib_9zy4mt> lol i have lotsa ram
#3049 [14:26] <mbentley> gently used cray, etc
#3050 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> define 'lotsa'
#3051 [14:27] <mbentley> use a fast hard drive
#3052 [14:27] <mib_9zy4mt> also have
#3053 [14:27] <mib_9zy4mt> 2, in raid
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#3056 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> RAID doesn't necesarily mean fast.
#3057 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> also, g'bye :p
#3058 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> go go gadget attention span.
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#3060 [14:30] <kontroll> I wonder if that was his password for something.
#3061 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
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#3074 [14:49] <commanderj> i'm seeing some odd drawing behaviour on os x
#3075 [14:50] <commanderj> distant objects seem to be incorrectly drawn (triangles at the edge of polygons)
#3076 [14:50] <commanderj> is this a known minecraft problem?
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#3078 [14:50] <mbentley> not that i know of but i also don't know anyone else trying to run it on a mac
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#3084 [14:53] <Ipooted> Hey
#3085 [14:54] <Ipooted> I have a problem with my minecraft locking up :|
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#3091 [14:59] <Smargoos> hi everybody
#3092 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Hi Dr Nick.
#3093 [15:01] <peru__> i still cant update my minecraft, if i do, i get latest update and java.nio.BufferOverflowException after loading :/
#3094 [15:01] <peru__> notch... get to it
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#3098 [15:02] <lunarblu> does anyone know what the "Something very rare" that was releases in bata was?
#3099 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Beta
#3100 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> The aforementioned "something very rare" is a deadmau5 skin
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#3102 [15:04] <lunarblu> GreyVulpine, Thank you.... since I have no idea qhat that is I will be asking google next.
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#3111 [15:09] <lemon-rev> has anyone ever comeacross a huge sqare in there ocian with water cascading just out side the whole and not into it
#3112 [15:12] <lemon-rev> http://uploadpix.net/view.php?image=d2098d36-5bbc-e703.JPG
#3113 [15:13] <lemon-rev> anyone else found bug, and thats though the server btw
#3114 [15:13] <xaviergmail> Velikoth: u there
#3115 [15:14] <lemon-rev> wow if i entre the sqare the screen just bobs up and down and like i get stuck lol
#3116 [15:14] <lemon-rev> wired crap
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#3118 [15:15] <ArmEagle> lemon-rev seems like that block simply isn't loaded yet
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#3120 [15:15] <lemon-rev> well it seems like it, but im just sitting here and its just doing what its doing lol
#3121 [15:15] <ArmEagle> tried reconnecting?
#3122 [15:15] <lemon-rev> being a bug, but i think its kinda funny, but anyways just wanted to try to see if anyone else has this hic up
#3123 [15:15] <lemon-rev> ill do so now
#3124 [15:15] <lemon-rev> lol
#3125 [15:16] <lemon-rev> ok its gone lol
#3126 [15:16] <lemon-rev> :(
#3127 [15:16] <lemon-rev> lol
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#3129 [15:20] <Urban> Hey
#3130 [15:20] <Urban> Do ether portals work in SMP in the beta?
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#3132 [15:21] <Urban> Anyone any idea?
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#3137 [15:22] <Urban> Do portals work in smp in the beta?
#3138 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Don't think portals "work" yet
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#3140 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Notch has yet to have them link between servers.
#3141 [15:23] <Urban> Darn it we just started building one :)
#3142 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Can't run a overworld and a nether on the same machine just yet
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#3144 [15:23] <RedNifre> hi!
#3145 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3146 [15:24] <RedNifre> Got the message that my server is outdated, but I could not find an "update" command when I typed "help" on the server. What's the best way to update it?
#3147 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the server from minecraft.net
#3148 [15:24] <RedNifre> hmpf, no better way? Okay.
#3149 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> That's the only way
#3150 [15:25] <RedNifre> Then I hope Notch doesn't stick to his "two releases per month" idea he presented on his blog... ):-(
#3151 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Heh, he's far exceeded that in the last two months
#3152 [15:25] <lunarblu> didn;t he do three releases this week?
#3153 [15:26] <RedNifre> Sorry, I'm a bit angry, because I started the server yesterday and it's outdated after one day.
#3154 [15:26] <RedNifre> I haven't played in maybe half a year.
#3155 [15:26] <lunarblu> RedNifre, Yeah, I did as well
#3156 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Wasn't it 6 releases?
#3157 [15:26] <Kealper> RAWR
#3158 [15:26] <RedNifre> oh gawd
#3159 [15:26] <lemon-rev> well theres been many bugs that have been try'ed to be fixed after the release so just be paitant
#3160 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version
#3161 [15:26] <lunarblu> I have to update when I get home
#3162 [15:26] <RedNifre> I want to leave for xmas and I don't want to set up remote access to the server. I wanted to keep it simple.
#3163 [15:27] * GreyVulpine snerks
#3163 [15:27] <lunarblu> GreyVulpine, 6 in 2 days
#3164 [15:27] <RedNifre> Is there a way to prevent the clients from updating, so I could do a manual update of both clients + server when I feel about doing it?
#3165 [15:27] <Mjiig> by the sounds of it notch is overhauling the update system, so maybe a server auto update will sneak in...
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#3168 [15:29] <RedNifre> Do I just have to replace the server jar or should I also delete some of the files it spew out?
#3169 [15:29] <lunarblu> RedNifre, as far as i know replace the jar file.
#3170 [15:30] <RedNifre> okay, thanks, I'm now starting my journey to the server. Brb.
#3171 [15:30] <lunarblu> RedNifre, do you run linux?
#3172 [15:32] <mbentley> yes, just replace the jar to upgrade the server
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#3174 [15:33] <Mjiig> RedNifre: i believe that any extra files it needs it will update/regenerate of it's own accord
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#3176 [15:34] <VelcroMan> Is it possible to copy a map to another computor, or are there some kind of lock mechanism?
#3177 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> It's possible, yes
#3178 [15:34] <RedNifre> Okay, I'm back.
#3179 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Just copy the /world/ folder
#3180 [15:34] <RedNifre> I run Linux, the minecraft server runs BSD.
#3181 [15:35] <VelcroMan> Okay. Thanks GreyVulpine
#3182 [15:36] * Kealper updates his server and starts it up again for the first time in a few days
#3182 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Tell me if it's worth updating now
#3183 [15:37] <Kealper> also i heard someone say that the links in the !client command for AuBot were wrong...they work fine for me...
#3184 [15:37] <mbentley> they work but aren't correct
#3185 [15:37] <mbentley> !client
#3186 [15:37] <mbentley> http://Minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar should be http://Minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.jar
#3187 [15:38] <Kealper> fuck that stupid fucking case-sensitive server
#3188 [15:38] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3188 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Both work for me
#3189 [15:38] <mbentley> :D
#3190 [15:38] <mbentley> they download two different files though
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#3192 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#3193 [15:38] <Kealper> yea, grey the server that runs minecraft is case-sensitive
#3194 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#3195 [15:38] <mbentley> -rw-r--r-- 1 miner miner_unix 1101132 2010-12-16 05:16 minecraft.jar
#3196 [15:38] <mbentley> -rw-r--r-- 1 miner miner_unix 51765 2010-12-16 05:16 Minecraft.jar
#3197 [15:38] <Mjiig> why does a web server need to be case sensetive...
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#3199 [15:39] <Kealper> i have no idea....
#3200 [15:39] <Kealper> but it's stupid -.-
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#3202 [15:39] <RedNifre> Anyway, why do you ask if the update is worth it? I mean, how could you NOT update? Is there a way to prevent the clients from updating automatically?
#3203 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Yes, by not running it
#3204 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#3205 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Or blocking it through my firewall
#3206 [15:40] <Cial> not being on the internet when you play
#3207 [15:40] <Kealper> grey from his blog posts, it looks like 90% of those problems were caused by leaf decay
#3208 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Or editing my HOSTS file
#3209 [15:40] <Kealper> and he fixed that
#3210 [15:40] <Mjiig> Kealper: we hope
#3211 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> RedNifre - You weren't here when Beta came around?
#3212 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> It wanted me to skullfuck some people that came by here.
#3213 [15:41] <Kealper> both those EOF and overflow disconnects were from the server flooding clients with packets related to leaf decay
#3214 [15:41] <Kealper> LOL
#3215 [15:41] <Kealper> !reload mod_motd
#3216 [15:41] <Kealper> !clients
#3217 [15:41] <Kealper> fuuu
#3218 [15:41] * Kealper waits
#3218 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#3219 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> !clients
#3220 [15:42] <Kealper> flood control...lol
#3221 [15:42] <mbentley> tada
#3222 [15:42] <mbentley> !server
#3223 [15:42] <mbentley> that one is right though :)
#3224 [15:42] <Kealper> fml that jar is probably wrong too
#3225 [15:42] <Kealper> wait, the jar for the server is correct?
#3226 [15:42] <mbentley> nope, you're ok
#3227 [15:43] <mbentley> hmm.. minecraft.net is running resin. hadn't heard of it before
#3228 [15:43] <RedNifre> GreyVulpine: I heard about beta and thought about revisiting Minecraft. Bought it a while ago and played single player to the death and SMB was crappy back then. So now I play beta SMP
#3229 [15:43] <Mjiig> mbentley: resin?
#3230 [15:44] <mbentley> web server software
#3231 [15:44] * Kealper makes a quick program to get server headers
#3231 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Well RedNifre - It was hella buggy when beta rolled around.
#3232 [15:44] <mbentley> http://www.minecraft.net/sdfkljsadjf
#3233 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Which is why I held off updating
#3234 [15:44] <mbentley> Resin/4.0.12
#3235 [15:44] <Kealper> hmm...well
#3236 [15:44] <Kealper> i found my new most hated webserver
#3237 [15:44] <Kealper> case sensitive webserver...reall...wtf..
#3238 [15:45] <RedNifre> Well, we just played yesterday for testing. The guy who connected from extern got disconnected when he walked too far away from me, which was hilarious.
#3239 [15:45] <Kealper> really*
#3240 [15:45] <RedNifre> (I connected via LAN)
#3241 [15:45] <RedNifre> He always had to follow me around. :D
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#3243 [15:45] <Smiley> xD
#3244 [15:45] <RedNifre> Also, I slaughtered a pig and got a ham, which turned into three.
#3245 [15:45] <RedNifre> Well, first two. The first one healed me, the second one kicked me from the server.
#3246 [15:46] <RedNifre> But when I reconnected I had a third one in my inventory which healed me again.
#3247 [15:46] <RedNifre> Fun times. ;)
#3248 [15:46] <mbentley> mmmm ham
#3249 [15:46] <Mjiig> RedNifre: i think a few people have had that bug
#3250 [15:46] <Mjiig> and notch said he couldn't reproduce it
#3251 [15:46] <RedNifre> Do you know if burning enemies (because of sunlight) can incinerate anything? Or is that purely graphical?
#3252 [15:47] <RedNifre> I'm asking because I plan to build a house out of wood...
#3253 [15:47] <Kealper> they can't
#3254 [15:47] <RedNifre> yay!
#3255 [15:47] <Kealper> that would be stupid if they could, since it would burn down the whole map every morning lol
#3256 [15:47] <Mjiig> RedNifre: but if a creeper blows up they'll knock a hole in the side of your wooden house
#3257 [15:48] <RedNifre> Well, I guess I build a fence around it.
#3258 [15:48] <RedNifre> As long as it doesn't burn down it's okay.
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#3260 [15:48] <RedNifre> Well, thanks for your help. Gotta go now.
#3261 [15:48] <RedNifre> Bye everyone!
#3262 [15:48] <RedNifre> And merry christmas to all :)
#3263 [15:49] <CruelNoise> merry christmas!
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#3268 [15:52] <Kealper> grey looks like he actually unbroke everything, server seems fine now
#3269 [15:52] * Kealper begins to get his much-needed Minecraft fix
#3269 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Yay. Now just need hey0 to update it on the 24th
#3270 [15:54] <Kealper> indeed
#3271 [15:54] <Kealper> my subway system is on-hold due to no MM! lol
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#3273 [16:00] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: why do you need MM for a light rail system? Boosters are working fine :)
#3274 [16:01] <Kealper> boosters make excess server load
#3275 [16:01] <Kealper> and tend to stop after the chunk they are on gets unloaded
#3276 [16:02] <Mjiig> what's MM?
#3277 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> self-resetting boosters ftw
#3278 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> MM -> Minecart Mania?
#3279 [16:02] <Kealper> and MM can also store minecarts if you have them collide into a chest
#3280 [16:02] <Kealper> yes, that
#3281 [16:02] <Mjiig> what's minecart mania
#3282 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> okay, that's interesting. Can a cartchest also dispense carts onto a track?
#3283 [16:02] <Mjiig> <-- very much a minecraft noob :)
#3284 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> Mjiig: it's a server mod centering around minecrarts
#3285 [16:02] <Mjiig> k
#3286 [16:03] <Kealper> oh, Mjiig just noticed you PMed me lol
#3287 [16:03] <Mjiig> thanks
#3288 [16:04] <Kealper> yes DopeGhoti they can
#3289 [16:04] <Kealper> and obsidian can act as a booster, or a catcher
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#3291 [16:05] <Kealper> and there are other blocks that can increase the speed of said moving cart, so you can have the carts make huge journies without needing to be re-boosted
#3292 [16:05] <ZerOmega> *cough*
#3293 [16:05] <ZerOmega> 'why does my local client joins my game from seemingly random ports? ie 192.168.11.10:51303 51291 51516, even when i specified the port number at the connection screen as :25565"
#3294 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> ZerOmega: that's how TCP works
#3295 [16:06] <rrittenhouse> are you specifying the outbound port on your client or the remote inbound port on the server?
#3296 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> a client establishing a connection selects a random port; only the serverside port is the same every time
#3297 [16:06] <rrittenhouse> If you connet to port 80 on a machine the source port is a random port
#3298 [16:07] <rrittenhouse> yeah what he said
#3299 [16:07] <Kealper> dot...dot dot...
#3300 [16:07] <Kealper> [16:05] Thoatt: Want to hear a great minecraft joke?
#3301 [16:07] <Kealper> [16:06] Thoatt: Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
#3302 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> I thought disconnect.genericReason was a better punchline myself.
#3303 [16:09] <Kealper> that joke he said was probably an older one lol
#3304 [16:09] <rrittenhouse> I kept getting it all of the time until I deleted my client and reinstalled :P
#3305 [16:11] <Kealper> omg....i just found sooooo much clay
#3306 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> nice!
#3307 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> the only thing more exciting than finding clay is finding diamond
#3308 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> (IME)
#3309 [16:11] <ZerOmega> could this be the reason my friends can't connect to my server? I have the port forwarded correctly (PFPortChecker says so), and I'v hosted other games and configured their ports correctly?
#3310 [16:11] <Kealper> two islands of it right next to eachother O.o
#3311 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> nice
#3312 [16:11] <Mjiig> why is clay valuable?
#3313 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> ZerOmega: use !check in here to see if your server is accessable
#3314 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> Mjiig: it's rare, and it's the source material for bricks
#3315 [16:12] <ZerOmega> hmmmm....
#3316 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> it's literally rarer than gold or diamonds
#3317 [16:12] <Mjiig> okay
#3318 [16:13] <ZerOmega> I keep getting 'connection refused: connect' message
#3319 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> on the server?
#3320 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> or on the client?
#3321 [16:13] <ZerOmega> client
#3322 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> again: use !check in here
#3323 [16:13] <Kealper> ZerOmega: can anyone else connect to it?
#3324 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> !check0.0.0.0 where 0.0.0.0 is your actual public IP
#3325 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> heh
#3326 [16:14] <ZerOmega> god damn it, why do computers have to be this complicated :(
#3327 [16:14] <ZerOmega> Keapler: no
#3328 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> ZerOmega: do you understand the words that are coming our of my fingers?
#3329 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> out, even?
#3330 [16:14] <Kealper> lol
#3331 [16:14] <ZerOmega> I do try
#3332 [16:14] <ZerOmega> have to translate to my language
#3333 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> which is?
#3334 [16:14] <ZerOmega> Finnish
#3335 [16:15] <Kealper> not sure if sarcasm
#3336 [16:15] <Kealper> ZerOmega: what is your server ip?
#3337 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> Kirjoita "!check", jota seuraa IP-osoitteen palvelimellesi.
#3338 [16:16] <ZerOmega> aha
#3339 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> Tee se täällä.
#3340 [16:16] <ZerOmega> hetki
#3341 [16:17] <Kealper> o.o dope are you finnish? lol
#3342 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> Is Google Translate making intelligible translations?
#3343 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: no.
#3344 [16:17] <ZerOmega> !check 82.128.199.247:25565
#3345 [16:18] <Kealper> hmmmm
#3346 [16:18] <ZerOmega> ./67.177.131.104:1184 lost connection
#3347 [16:18] <Mjiig> for the record google translate is awesome :)
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#3349 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> Onko Google-kääntäjä tekee ymmärrettäväksi käännöksiä? Jos näin on, olen vaikuttunut!
#3350 [16:19] <Kealper> ZerOmega: aubot does not log in to the server. it just connects and disconnects
#3351 [16:19] <ZerOmega> it works well enough
#3352 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> (holy crap, Finns love their vowels!)
#3353 [16:19] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: and swedes appear to hate them lol
#3354 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> heh.
#3355 [16:20] <ZerOmega> Keapler: so that means it should work? Because I saw that in the servers log window.
#3356 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> ZerOmega: Yes.
#3357 [16:23] <kontroll> How do I list players on a server?
#3358 [16:24] <Kealper> either /list ingame or just list in the console
#3359 [16:24] <kontroll> I did /list.
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#3361 [16:24] <kontroll> It comes up empty.
#3362 [16:24] <kontroll> Should it not at least list me?
#3363 [16:24] <kontroll> "comes up empty" = nothing at all comes up.
#3364 [16:24] <Kealper> are you in the server? lol
#3365 [16:24] <kontroll> I am.
#3366 [16:24] <Kealper> O.o
#3367 [16:25] <Kealper> yes, it should list you as the only player if you are in there alone :S
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#3369 [16:25] <kontroll> That's what I thought.
#3370 [16:25] <kontroll> Could have sworn I ran that command earlier, so I was wondering just wtf. :P
#3371 [16:25] <kontroll> Shit's buggy then, I guess.
#3372 [16:25] <kontroll> I'll have to nag herr Server Guy to update. That might be it.
#3373 [16:26] <Kealper> lol
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#3376 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft forums: why are they less stable than a butterfly with a palsy?
#3377 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> I thought the Curse buyout deal was supposed to fix that crap.
#3378 [16:29] <Kealper> eh?
#3379 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> As of this moment, I get the "a creeper found our servers!" page, and all day I've had to reload pages time and again after getting HTTP/503 errors
#3380 [16:30] <Kealper> hmm......i never knew curse took over those
#3381 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> really? there was this huge to-do about it when it happened
#3382 [16:31] <Kealper> guess i just didn't pay attention lol
#3383 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> the forum admins were like "oh yeah, by the way, next tuesday, we're joining Curse."
#3384 [16:31] <Kealper> does curse provide hosting for it? or was it like a total takeover sort of thing?
#3385 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> my understanding was that curse was taking over hosting duties
#3386 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> but the MC forum admins were still in control, so to speak
#3387 [16:32] <Kealper> meh
#3388 [16:33] <Kealper> mah chainmail armor is broke!
#3389 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> ...
#3390 [16:33] <Kealper> and the wiki totally says that chainmail armor makes you not get hurt at all....until it's broken...lies...
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#3392 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> what do you expect with regard to accuracy about a mythical artifact forged from raw fire?
#3393 [16:33] <Kealper> meh...works good as an "admin cloak" though
#3394 [16:34] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: you just made that sound much more epic than it is lol
#3395 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> it's a knack.
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#3397 [16:35] <Kealper> and for some reason, when reading that, dwarves in a forge pounding on something hot with forging hammers came to mind
#3398 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
#3399 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
#3400 [16:37] <Kealper> http://imgur.com/a/KANTZ/troll_moon__awesome_sun lol
#3401 [16:37] <kontroll> I have this nagging urge to dig myself up from the bottom of the world.
#3402 [16:37] <kontroll> But I fear lava and water equally.
#3403 [16:37] <Smiley> and air>?
#3404 [16:38] <kontroll> Sometimes.
#3405 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> why fear water?
#3406 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> just dig safely
#3407 [16:39] <kontroll> So much for that.
#3408 [16:39] <kontroll> Two blocks in I strike lava.
#3409 [16:39] <Kealper> xD
#3410 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> emphasis on safely.
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#3412 [16:40] <aolko> what do i need to fork minecraft/infiniminer?
#3413 [16:40] <Kealper> hmmm....Quandary is quite nice....
#3414 [16:41] <Kealper> aolko: fork?
#3415 [16:41] <aolko> yes
#3416 [16:41] <Kealper> to make sure we're on the same page here, what do you mean by fork?
#3417 [16:41] <Smiley> its not open source...
#3418 [16:41] <aolko> ive also wote infiniminer -_-
#3419 [16:41] <Kealper> yea, do you mean like...a source fork? or what?
#3420 [16:41] <aolko> wrote*
#3421 [16:41] <aolko> yes,source fork
#3422 [16:42] <Smiley> ...
#3423 [16:42] <Kealper> it's closed source, and what did AuBot tell you when you joined?
#3424 [16:42] <aolko> what language is more suitable and easy for this?
#3425 [16:42] <Kealper> leave us, foul being!
#3426 [16:42] <aolko> o_o
#3427 [16:42] <Smiley> aolko: aaaaaaaaahahaha
#3428 [16:42] <Smiley> your funnyman
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#3430 [16:43] <Kealper> aolko: MASM
#3431 [16:43] <aolko> =_= ...i really want to make something smiliar
#3432 [16:43] <Smiley> you can make something simular
#3433 [16:43] <Smiley> you can't take minecraft source code tho
#3434 [16:44] <Kealper> but you are only allowed to use either straight machine code or some version of ASM
#3435 [16:44] <Smiley> what to make it in? whatever you feel confortable with.
#3436 [16:44] <aolko> ...but i can take resources
#3437 [16:44] <Smiley> no you can't aolko
#3438 [16:44] <aolko> who said that it is copyrighted?
#3439 [16:44] <Kealper> why doesn't esper have half-ops...like seriously...
#3440 [16:44] <Kealper> aolko: Mojang AB said it was
#3441 [16:44] <Smiley> aolko: Notch?
#3442 [16:44] <Smiley> the guy who owns it? :D
#3443 [16:45] <aolko> notch owns it but he didnt made splash about copyrights and legal notice
#3444 [16:45] <DopeGhoti> Anything anyone writes is intrinsicly copyrighted by virtue of being written.
#3445 [16:45] <Smiley> yes he did
#3446 [16:45] <Mjiig> when you fire up the program it says copyright do not distribute
#3447 [16:45] <DopeGhoti> you don't need to have a splash screen to have your IP rights.
#3448 [16:45] <Kealper> alright guys, i've heard that trolls have really short attention spans, maybe if we just sit really still, it'll go away
#3449 [16:46] <aolko> hey,im not troll
#3450 [16:46] <Kealper> fuck off, troll!
#3451 [16:46] <aolko> im normal human
#3452 [16:46] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: deliver us from this vile filth!
#3453 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> Not really; normal humans know how to use punctuation.
#3454 [16:46] <Kealper> or op me and i'll ban him >.>
#3455 [16:46] <aolko> im russian =_=
#3456 [16:47] <L551> How am I supposed to open minecraft_server.jar on Windows? Command line says java is not a command or something, and adding path variables is a foreign concept.
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#3458 [16:47] <Kealper> and figures....he's afk...
#3459 [16:47] <DopeGhoti> Русские также знают, как использовать знаки препинания.
#3460 [16:47] <aolko> да, я знаю
#3461 [16:47] <Mjiig> DopeGhoti: more google translate?
#3462 [16:47] <Mjiig> or do you actually speak russian?
#3463 [16:47] <aolko> google translate переводит криво
#3464 [16:47] <DopeGhoti> The only non-English languages I speak are C, Python, and German.
#3465 [16:48] <aolko> im actually speaking it. Its my native language
#3466 [16:48] <Kealper> i speak english, a tad bit of C/C++, AutoIt, and Perl
#3467 [16:48] <aolko> |:-|
#3468 [16:48] <aolko> ...and html
#3469 [16:48] <Kealper> L551: you have to add java into your enviroment variables
#3470 [16:48] <aolko> im speaking it too
#3471 [16:48] <Kealper> the Path one
#3472 [16:49] <Mjiig> english ruby a bit of c bash and python (i'm not counting the stuff i do at school, since i suck at it) :)
#3473 [16:49] <L551> "you have to add java into your enviroment variables" And that makes me head hurt trying to figure out what that means.
#3474 [16:49] <aolko> damn...PROgrammers around me...
#3475 [16:49] <Kealper> please don't feed the troll...
#3476 [16:49] <aolko> im not troll
#3477 [16:49] <Kealper> say nothing, and it will get bored
#3478 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: /ignore works wonders.
#3479 [16:50] <Kealper> true, true
#3480 [16:50] <Kealper> L551: uhh...what os?
#3481 [16:50] <aolko> :c guys you are troll addicted...you think that every normal guy is a troll
#3482 [16:50] <L551> Win Vista
#3483 [16:50] <Mjiig> he said win
#3484 [16:51] <Kealper> aolko: when they come in claiming to rip off property from the game we serve, then yes, we call you a troll
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#3486 [16:51] <Kealper> Mjiig: i meant what version lol
#3487 [16:51] <aolko> ive just asked
#3488 [16:51] <Kealper> L551: ok, type "enviroment" into your start menu search
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#3490 [16:52] <Kealper> it should say something about editing enviroment variables as the first result
#3491 [16:52] <Smiley> we can haz moar ops now?
#3492 [16:52] <Kealper> Smiley: trust me, i wish i was an op...i'd be the only one this channel needed..and i would have many people hating me
#3493 [16:52] <L551> Environment brings up my painterly pack environment items :P
#3494 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#3495 [16:53] <Kealper> no offence grey, but i'm here all the time, and would have no issue banning random people for being retarded
#3496 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> None taken
#3497 [16:54] <Kealper> L551: uhh...alright then, hold the windows key and press the pause key
#3498 [16:54] <L551> Pause key?
#3499 [16:54] <Kealper> says Pause Break over top of eachother
#3500 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> directly above your arrow keys.
#3501 [16:55] <L551> Nothing happens.
#3502 [16:55] <Kealper> actually...screw shortcut keys, just go into your control panel, click on system, and tell me when you're there
#3503 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#3504 [16:55] <L551> Wait.. that's right, my left Windows key is busted
#3505 [16:55] <L551> Right one works
#3506 [16:55] <Kealper> lol
#3507 [16:56] <L551> ok now what
#3508 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> Windows Vista, or "Let's screw with all the convenient shortcuts that knowers (used to) rely on" edition.
#3509 [16:56] <Kealper> do you see anything about advanced system settings or something about enviroment vars?
#3510 [16:56] <L551> Yes I'm in the environment variables screen, but I have absolutely no idea what to do here.
#3511 [16:56] <Kealper> this would be so much easier if i actually used vista lol
#3512 [16:57] <Kealper> ok L551 are you on a x64 windows or x86 windows?
#3513 [16:57] <L551> x64
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#3515 [16:57] <Kealper> ok, see the "PATH" part of user variables?
#3516 [16:57] <L551> yes
#3517 [16:58] <L551> although lowercase
#3518 [16:58] <Kealper> is there anything in it?
#3519 [16:58] <L551> %CommonProgramFiles%\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live
#3520 [16:58] <Kealper> close enough...
#3521 [16:58] <Kealper> edit it and put ;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin
#3522 [16:58] <Kealper> on the end, just like that
#3523 [16:58] <L551> No spacing?
#3524 [16:58] <Kealper> press ok, and then open up a cmd window
#3525 [16:58] <Kealper> nope
#3526 [16:59] <Kealper> it should just run all together like %CommonProgramFiles%\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin
#3527 [16:59] <Kealper> did you save and open a cmd window?
#3528 [16:59] <L551> yes
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#3531 [16:59] <Kealper> ok, in the cmd window type java -version
#3532 [17:00] <Kealper> does it say the java version? or just that it can not find it?
#3533 [17:00] <L551> Java version 1.6.0._23
#3534 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Yay
#3535 [17:00] <Kealper> ok, you're done
#3536 [17:00] <L551> Now to see if it will launch my server
#3537 [17:00] <L551> I've been using the .exe but my friends wanted a mod
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#3540 [17:00] <Neko> Question: How do you update the server to get the recent update?
#3541 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the server
#3542 [17:00] <L551> Yes I just got the .jar
#3543 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> replace
#3544 [17:01] <pheneas> 1.1_02 made me have NO sound .. is this happening to me only
#3545 [17:01] <Neko> alright, thanks
#3546 [17:01] <Neko> pheneas: check your setting
#3547 [17:01] <Kealper> pheneas: is your volume turned down? lol
#3548 [17:01] <Neko> settings
#3549 [17:01] <Kealper> if you are on vista/7, is it muted in the mixer settings?
#3550 [17:02] <pheneas> music and sound to 100%, and sound is working out the sound card, Gtalk, Rythymbox, and the Pulse audio does show java, and its not muted
#3551 [17:02] <L551> Invalid or corrupt Jar file
#3552 [17:02] <L551> Bah so the mods dont work?
#3553 [17:02] <Kealper> oh...nix...uhh...don't know then
#3554 [17:03] <Kealper> L551: nope
#3555 [17:03] <pheneas> but if your sound is working, must be my setup in some way
#3556 [17:03] <Neko> ok, can someone join my server to make sure they dont get kicked?
#3557 [17:03] <L551> They say they work with beta >.> Liars :P
#3558 [17:03] <Neko> 67.238.9.236
#3559 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> !check67.238.9.236
#3560 [17:03] <Kealper> you sans'd a space there
#3561 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> !check 67.238.9.236
#3562 [17:03] <Neko> DopeGhoti: that doesn't cvheck to see if ppl get kicked or not
#3563 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> I thought you had it spaceless
#3564 [17:03] <L551> They said the tool repair mod would work on SMP, guess not?
#3565 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> L551: no mod support here.
#3566 [17:04] <Kealper> having it spaceless just looks ugly
#3567 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> I agree
#3568 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> I just thought that's how you had it
#3569 [17:04] <xaviergmail> whats the default port?
#3570 [17:04] <Kealper> 25565
#3571 [17:04] <Neko> 25565
#3572 [17:04] <xaviergmail> thx
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#3574 [17:05] <xaviergmail> im so addicted to minecraft
#3575 [17:05] * xaviergmail sets miencraft as homepage
#3575 [17:05] <xaviergmail> :D
#3576 [17:05] <DopeGhoti> you mean it wasn't already?
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#3579 [17:07] <Coll> oh for crying out loud
#3580 [17:08] <Coll> I cant fucking log in to the forums
#3581 [17:08] <Coll> is it just me or does shit seem to stop working one after another
#3582 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> well
#3583 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> the Forums seem to be run out a server made of balsa wood, baling wire, and the prayers of tortured children
#3584 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> I've just come to expect that they'll be down whenever I try to peruse them, especially on the days new releases come out.
#3585 [17:10] <Coll> dam
#3586 [17:10] <Kealper> lol
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#3589 [17:15] <kontroll> WELL, okay. Now I have a 1 block hole that will suck me all the way down to the bottom of the world through an ocean.
#3590 [17:15] <kontroll> Go me.
#3591 [17:15] <Kealper> lol
#3592 [17:15] <Neko> o.o
#3593 [17:16] <tactfulConsultant> so yeah i havent been able to log on since the halloween update
#3594 [17:16] <Coll> lame
#3595 [17:16] <Kealper> what's it (not) do?
#3596 [17:16] <tactfulConsultant> well
#3597 [17:17] <tactfulConsultant> my password is always wrong i guess
#3598 [17:17] <tactfulConsultant> and my email doesnt exist
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#3600 [17:17] <Kealper> tactfulConsultant: are you sure you are using the correct account?
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#3602 [17:17] <tactfulConsultant> yes
#3603 [17:17] <tactfulConsultant> i use the same account for everything
#3604 [17:18] <Kealper> do you still have the receipt from paypal for when you bought the game?
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#3607 [17:19] <tactfulConsultant> I dont know
#3608 [17:19] <Rodeswerg> Hi
#3609 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Rodeswerg
#3610 [17:19] <Kealper> Rodeswerg: hi
#3611 [17:19] <Count> ok, I have a question
#3612 [17:19] <Count> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Portal
#3613 [17:19] <Count> that portal on the left, is one block wide
#3614 [17:19] <Count> is it still possible to craft that kind of portal?
#3615 [17:19] <tactfulConsultant> but i had a link of a 'has paid' thing on the website
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#3617 [17:20] <Kealper> tactfulConsultant: to be honest, i'm not sure....since accounts don't just disappear.....i think you used other info for it..
#3618 [17:20] <Rodeswerg> does anybody can start the 1.1_02 on extern servers?
#3619 [17:20] <tactfulConsultant> i dunno
#3620 [17:20] <tactfulConsultant> hold on
#3621 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> you should be able to log into PayPal and get your transaction histroy
#3622 [17:20] <tactfulConsultant> ill get the error code
#3623 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> give payments@mojang.com an email with the confirmation code
#3624 [17:22] <Rodeswerg> we got ours on 4'Players - but.... before the last patch everything works(with a downgrade) but now theres nothing that worksss
#3625 [17:23] <Kealper> Count: uhh....i think that is just perspective
#3626 [17:23] <Kealper> portals have to be 2x3
#3627 [17:23] <tactfulConsultant> http://pastebin.com/mKMfVCBD
#3628 [17:23] <tactfulConsultant> and ill brb again
#3629 [17:25] <Rodeswerg> ?
#3630 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> yay for java mail client errors?
#3631 [17:26] <Kealper> Rodeswerg: uhh...it works fine for me
#3632 [17:26] <Kealper> this version, i mean
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#3634 [17:26] <Misan> does a diamond axe deal more damage than a stone sword?
#3635 [17:27] <Misan> and will tools differ in damage?
#3636 [17:27] <lemon-rev> yes and yes
#3637 [17:27] <Kealper> a diamond axe can like..3 hit mobs lol
#3638 [17:28] <Misan> axe = best for damage for tools?
#3639 [17:28] <Kealper> never tried other tools...so...idk
#3640 [17:29] <Misan> however.. ty a lot
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#3642 [17:30] <Rodeswerg> damn - %§$&$%§§§$"§ 4Players... monday we rent the server - nothing worked... 2 hours later we have found the "bin downgrade" an it wored to today................ and theres no way to get the map down from the server, so we also cant play over a own hostes server... im a LITTLE BIT angry
#3643 [17:31] <Kealper> :/
#3644 [17:31] <kontroll> Ugh. I finally feel ready for powered mine carts.
#3645 [17:31] <kontroll> Not to mention I have more than an ample supply of iron by now.
#3646 [17:31] <kontroll> But... I r confus. :P
#3647 [17:31] <Kealper> about?
#3648 [17:32] <kontroll> How to lay a track without wasting my materials building something that turns out to be pure crap. ;>
#3649 [17:32] <Kealper> you're on your own there lol
#3650 [17:32] <kontroll> I want a track that takes me almost vertically out of my pit of anguish.
#3651 [17:32] <kontroll> Which, with the furnace cart, seems impossible.
#3652 [17:34] <Kealper> indeed :S
#3653 [17:34] <kontroll> And unless it's going at bloody light speed, my ladder is probably faster anyway. :P
#3654 [17:34] <kontroll> Defeating the purpose.
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#3657 [17:36] <kontroll> "Either it goes the other way or you have to get out of the cart and try not to miss it as it steams off into the sun set."
#3658 [17:36] <kontroll> Well yay...?
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#3663 [17:40] <Mathuin> Is there any sort of trouble ticket system for Minecraft? I'd like to see about getting a debug-enabled build to try to determine why Minecraft keeps crashing my Ubuntu system.
#3664 [17:42] <Kealper> Mathuin: is there a java error that is thrown? run it through terminal
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#3666 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> kontroll: water ladder, or use a booster for uphull minekarting
#3667 [17:45] <kontroll> Water ladder? o_o
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#3669 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Water_Ladder
#3670 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> when done, you can climb about 5x faster than using a ladder
#3671 [17:47] <Mathuin> Kealper: no java error thrown. :-(
#3672 [17:47] <Kealper> o.o
#3673 [17:47] <Kealper> no idea then
#3674 [17:47] <Mathuin> Kealper: it almost looks like the video crashes.
#3675 [17:47] <Kealper> driver issue?
#3676 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> syslog?
#3677 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> dmesg?
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#3679 [17:48] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: no syslog, no messages, no dmesg.
#3680 [17:49] <xaviergmail> help me pl0x i clicked the x on minecraft while trying to click the square
#3681 [17:49] <xaviergmail> and now its frozen
#3682 [17:49] <xaviergmail> I cant even close it anymore
#3683 [17:49] <Mathuin> Kealper: maybe, but there's no reports or anything, and the system eventually locks up.
#3684 [17:49] <kontroll> Ctrl+Shift+Esc, xaviergmail. ;P
#3685 [17:49] <Kealper> Mathuin: definately sounds like a driver issue causing system instability then....
#3686 [17:49] <Kealper> but i'm no linux guru, so i can't help debug said issue
#3687 [17:50] <Mathuin> Kealper: happens with both 'current' and old NVidia drivers. Hopefully one of the Ubuntu folks can help. Thanks!
#3688 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: disable Compiz?
#3689 [17:50] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: tell me how and I'll give it a try.
#3690 [17:51] <Kealper> should be under "Compiz Settings" or something
#3691 [17:51] <Mathuin> System -> Appearance -> Visual Effects, choose none?
#3692 [17:54] <xaviergmail> kontroll im on linux
#3693 [17:54] <Kealper> that is probably it Mathuin
#3694 [17:54] <Kealper> xaviergmail: what distro?
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#3697 [17:55] <xaviergmail> mint 10
#3698 [17:55] <Kealper> finnally...i distro i can actually help someone with
#3699 [17:55] <xaviergmail> :D I can't close minecraft anymore
#3700 [17:56] <xaviergmail> cant even end the process in system monitor
#3701 [17:56] <Kealper> well then....
#3702 [17:56] <xaviergmail> oh
#3703 [17:56] <xaviergmail> i killed it
#3704 [17:56] <Kealper> have you tried ....ok then lol
#3705 [17:56] <xaviergmail> didnt see that option
#3706 [17:56] <xaviergmail> :D
#3707 [17:56] <xaviergmail> and
#3708 [17:56] <xaviergmail> do you know any microphone recorder?
#3709 [17:56] <xaviergmail> audacity won;t work with my webcam's mic
#3710 [17:57] <Kealper> i've never tried :S
#3711 [17:57] <xaviergmail> :(
#3712 [17:57] <Kealper> you might have to set your webcam as the default input device in the sound settings
#3713 [17:57] <aolko> audacity
#3714 [17:58] <xaviergmail> i we it to hw:1,0
#3715 [17:58] <aolko> damn
#3716 [17:58] <xaviergmail> i set it*
#3717 [17:58] <xaviergmail> that's what it says in terminal thing
#3718 [17:58] <Kealper> O.o
#3719 [17:58] <aolko> well...you are doing it wrong then
#3720 [17:58] <aolko> http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4560047/In-minecraft-you-are-doing-it-wrong.jpg?imageSize=Large&generatorName=Minecraft-N00B
#3721 [17:59] <xaviergmail> card 1: camera [USB camera], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
#3722 [17:59] <Kealper> lemme crack open mint so i can say exactly how to do this, don't remember what stuff is called offhand
#3723 [18:00] <xaviergmail> ^ arecord -l
#3724 [18:00] <xaviergmail> I followed a rockband usb mic its pretty much the same thing
#3725 [18:01] <Kealper> alright...click on the speaker in the taskbar
#3726 [18:01] <Kealper> select sound preferences
#3727 [18:01] <Kealper> go to the input tab, and select your webcam from the device list
#3728 [18:01] <xaviergmail> yer
#3729 [18:01] <Kealper> and it should just work
#3730 [18:01] <xaviergmail> I can't interact with it
#3731 [18:01] <Kealper> O.o
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#3733 [18:02] <xaviergmail> i can just turn it blue
#3734 [18:02] <xaviergmail> :D
#3735 [18:02] <xaviergmail> and even the input volume is disabled
#3736 [18:03] <Kealper> wow...uhh...do you have the correct drivers for it? lol
#3737 [18:03] <xaviergmail> in cheese it works perfectly
#3738 [18:03] <Kealper> no idea then :S
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#3740 [18:04] <xaviergmail> I have a beast mic
#3741 [18:04] <xaviergmail> like
#3742 [18:04] <xaviergmail> a stage mic
#3743 [18:05] <tactfulConsultant> so I guess i need to wait for notch to get a new mail server?
#3744 [18:05] <xaviergmail> but I can't plug it into my comp
#3745 [18:05] <xaviergmail> :D
#3746 [18:05] <Kealper> lol
#3747 [18:05] <Kealper> tactfulConsultant: maybe :S
#3748 [18:05] <xaviergmail> and Kealper is there any equalizer in linux?
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#3750 [18:05] <xaviergmail> cause i cant listen to rock
#3751 [18:05] <xaviergmail> too much bass :D
#3752 [18:05] <secretchurro> can someone help me here?
#3753 [18:05] <Kealper> you can never have too much bass lol
#3754 [18:06] <xaviergmail> when it comes to rock i can
#3755 [18:06] <xaviergmail> D:
#3756 [18:06] <secretchurro> lol its not about that
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#3758 [18:06] <xaviergmail> i have a 10 in pioneer
#3759 [18:06] <Mathuin> Hah! It crashed again!
#3760 [18:06] <Mathuin> With effects at none.
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#3762 [18:06] <xaviergmail> Mathuin: what crashed
#3763 [18:06] <xaviergmail> minecraft?
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#3765 [18:07] <Mathuin> xaviergmail: my Ubuntu box's video went all black while I was playing Minecraft.
#3766 [18:07] <xaviergmail> O_o
#3767 [18:07] <Mathuin> jmt 2848 99.5 15.7 2030740 637004 pts/0 Sl+ 14:52 14:42 java -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni -jar /home/jmt/Downloads/Minecraft.jar
#3768 [18:07] <secretchurro> i need some help making a server on a mac
#3769 [18:07] * Kealper implies that ubuntu is not the greatest distro
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#3770 [18:07] <Mathuin> The process has 2G of memory, which is fine since my machine has 4G.
#3771 [18:07] * xaviergmail and every1 else knows that linux mint is the best os ever
#3771 [18:07] <Kealper> secretchurro: i would help, but i have absolutely no idea how to run a server on a mac
#3772 [18:07] <Mathuin> But it's eating 99.5% of the CPU I'm thinking that ain't good.
#3773 [18:07] <secretchurro> D:
#3774 [18:08] <secretchurro> does anyone know how to run a server on a mac?
#3775 [18:08] <Kealper> Mathuin: when it's crashed? or when it's running normally?
#3776 [18:08] <lemon-rev> mc has or is a memory leek, 2 gig on xp 4 cpu's running around 95% but it runs so wtf lol :)
#3777 [18:08] <Mathuin> Kealper: right now. Not sure about during normal play.
#3778 [18:09] <Mathuin> I kill -9'ed the Java process, it's still around as a zombie but the fans quieted down. Video still lost.
#3779 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> secretchurro: the same way you do on Linux; it jsut looks prettier
#3780 [18:09] <Mathuin> Ctrl-Alt-F2 doesn't bring up another terminal window.
#3781 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: try C-A-F3
#3782 [18:09] <secretchurro> yah i dunno how to set it up on linux either :P
#3783 [18:09] <Kealper> Mathuin: have you tried reinstalling java?
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#3786 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> secretchurro: set up port forwarding or firewall hole. run minecraft_server.jar. Enjoy.
#3787 [18:10] <Mathuin> Kealper: I've tried Sun and OpenJVM Java, same problem. C-A-F1 through C-A-F9 give me nothing.
#3788 [18:10] <secretchurro> *needs walkthrough*
#3789 [18:10] <Kealper> reinstall ubuntu? lol
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#3791 [18:10] <Mathuin> Kealper: sigh! :-)
#3792 [18:10] <pedra> hmm
#3793 [18:10] <Kealper> secretchurro: it's quite literally just run minecraft_server,jar lol
#3794 [18:11] <pedra> how do i
#3795 [18:11] <pedra> get a new map in my server
#3796 [18:11] <pedra> ?
#3797 [18:11] <secretchurro> thats on terminal right?
#3798 [18:11] <Kealper> secretchurro: just double click it, it will run like any other program
#3799 [18:11] <pedra> is it a comand?
#3800 [18:11] <secretchurro> ok thx ill try
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#3802 [18:11] <Kealper> pedra: stop your server, delete your map, start server
#3803 [18:11] <Kealper> it will automatically generate a new one
#3804 [18:12] <pedra> ohh
#3805 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> pedra: delete the world
#3806 [18:12] <pedra> ty again :)
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#3810 [18:13] <Mathuin> Okay, just told the box to reboot via ssh. It's not yet rebooted. WHen it comes up, I'll check the X logs.
#3811 [18:13] <xaviergmail_> thx to whoever said ctrl alt f3
#3812 [18:13] <xaviergmail_> -_-
#3813 [18:13] <secretchurro> how do i find the ip?
#3814 [18:13] <trowa_barton> how do I update my server?
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#3816 [18:13] <Kealper> secretchurro: http://whatismyip.com
#3817 [18:13] <xaviergmail_> GreyVulpine, LG_Legacy , zz_GLawayDOS some1 kick xaviergmail, it's a ghost D:
#3818 [18:13] <Mathuin> trowa_barton: download a new version from the page and install that in place?
#3819 [18:13] <Kealper> trowa_barton: just stop your server, replace the file, and start it again
#3820 [18:14] <LG_Legacy> ?
#3821 [18:14] <LG_Legacy> Do it yourself
#3822 [18:14] <trowa_barton> really? I cant have it just update like the client?
#3823 [18:14] <secretchurro> :0 thats cool thx :D
#3824 [18:14] <Kealper> xaviergmail_: it will time out...
#3825 [18:14] <xaviergmail_> i aint registered
#3826 [18:14] <LG_Legacy> Try /nickserv ghost user password
#3827 [18:14] <Kealper> waking LG from his eternal slumber is a bad thing O.o
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#3831 [18:14] <xaviergmail> :)
#3832 [18:15] <xaviergmail> Kealper: i die ctrl alt f3
#3833 [18:15] <xaviergmail> and i got gfed
#3834 [18:15] <Kealper> eh?
#3835 [18:16] <secretchurro> ok how do i find the ip of the server?
#3836 [18:16] <Mathuin> Innnnnnnnnnnnnnnteresting.
#3837 [18:16] <Kealper> secretchurro: the server's internal ip? or it's external?
#3838 [18:16] <Mathuin> (WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (2, 6, 0x8000, 0x00003d68) <-- twice in my Xorg.0.log.old
#3839 [18:16] <secretchurro> to join the server
#3840 [18:17] <Kealper> oh....uhh...are you hosting it on your computer? or a different one?
#3841 [18:17] <secretchurro> hosting it on mah computer
#3842 [18:17] <Kealper> connect to "localhost" without quotes
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#3844 [18:17] <Mathuin> There's no place like 127.0.0.1
#3845 [18:18] * xaviergmail_ has been owned
#3845 [18:18] <xaviergmail_> again..
#3846 [18:18] <CruelNoise> by what?
#3847 [18:19] <Kealper> why oh why does my vmware not have internet access....
#3848 [18:19] <xaviergmail_> by ctrl alt f2/f3
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#3851 [18:20] <xaviergmail> -_-
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#3853 [18:21] <Mathuin> Kealper: last time I played with virtualbox there were crazy virtual drivers involved.
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#3855 [18:22] <Kealper> i've been having issues with networking since i updated to vmware 7....it's probably some service that isn't started or something
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#3857 [18:26] <thatiscool> do monsters spawn in dark areas even though the cave is closed off?
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#3859 [18:26] <xaviergmail> yes
#3860 [18:26] <Kealper> they spawn in dark areas period lol
#3861 [18:27] <thatiscool> ok...cause i painstakingly found a HUGE cave and spent awhile closing off openings...thinking i was safe....so i was wrong?
#3862 [18:27] <xaviergmail> god damn I need a screen recorder that can record voice from my mic at the same time
#3863 [18:27] <xaviergmail> yes
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#3865 [18:27] <xaviergmail> but if u clkosed it
#3866 [18:27] <xaviergmail> they cant pass through
#3867 [18:28] <thatiscool> but they will spawn in the dark areas? this cave is huge! and i havn't torched it all yet
#3868 [18:28] <Bischoff> xaviver: try I.Screen.Recorder
#3869 [18:28] <xaviergmail> linux?
#3870 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> there's also kazaam
#3871 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> (linux)
#3872 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> (no relation to kazaa)
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#3874 [18:30] <xaviergmail> dope
#3875 [18:30] <xaviergmail> dtop trollin
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#3878 [18:33] <Hurtlock> Good eve all, I have a question that's remained unanswered despite a lengthy rampage through the forums...
#3879 [18:34] <Tu13es> how do i start a new world on my SMP?
#3880 [18:34] <Tu13es> just delete everything besides minecraft_server.jar?
#3881 [18:34] <Kealper> Tu13es: delete your world folder
#3882 [18:34] <Hurtlock> I know I'm not alone with the issue, but the fog rendering seems to be the cause of my decreased FPS in the newest beta.
#3883 [18:34] <Tu13es> aha, thanks Kealper
#3884 [18:35] <Hurtlock> Someone else had the issue, he 'disabled the fog'
#3885 [18:35] <Kealper> Hurtlock: set your grapics to Fancy in the options
#3886 [18:35] <Bischoff> Minecraft stuck at "updating Minecraft, Done loading"
#3887 [18:35] <Kealper> that basically turns off fog
#3888 [18:35] <Bischoff> what to do?
#3889 [18:35] <Kealper> Bischoff: has it worked for you before?
#3890 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> 'scuse me, xaviergmail? I was suggesting a screen recorder.
#3891 [18:36] <Bischoff> yeah like a houer ago
#3892 [18:36] <Hurtlock> Thanks for that, Kealper, but I still have fog visible in fancy mode even with render maxed
#3893 [18:36] <Kealper> Hurtlock: press F then
#3894 [18:36] <Hurtlock> and the decrease in fps is even greater
#3895 [18:36] <Kealper> ingame
#3896 [18:36] <Hurtlock> all that does is toggle fog distance not on/off
#3897 [18:36] <Mathuin> F cycles through rendering distance, I thought.
#3898 [18:36] <Bischoff> the green loadingbar is on 95%
#3899 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> indeed, F cycles through four rendering distances
#3900 [18:37] <Kealper> if that's not what you mean, then there is no way to disable the fog completely without a hack
#3901 [18:37] <Tu13es> oh yeah, is there a backup tool that works for SMP rather than single player?
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#3903 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> Tu13es: yes: tar
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#3905 [18:38] <Tu13es> wahhh, command line
#3906 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> Tu13es: works best when coupled with cron
#3907 [18:38] <Tu13es> :P
#3908 [18:38] <Tu13es> just tar the world dir?
#3909 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> yep
#3910 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> that's all you need
#3911 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> player data is stored in world/players
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#3913 [18:38] <Bischoff> Kealper, any thought of what it could be?
#3914 [18:39] <Kealper> Bischoff: are you playing on a laptop or an old computer?
#3915 [18:39] <Bischoff> no
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#3917 [18:39] <Kealper> then idk
#3918 [18:39] <Bischoff> hmm
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#3921 [18:40] <Bischoff> will try to input new jar files
#3922 [18:40] <Kealper`> lesson learned....
#3923 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> ?
#3924 [18:40] <Kealper`> bridging connections = DC
#3925 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> y'think?
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#3928 [18:41] * DopeGhoti sets mode +v Kealper
#3928 [18:41] <Kealper> lol
#3929 [18:41] <Bischoff> still the same
#3930 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> Bischoff: this on Windows?
#3931 [18:42] <Bischoff> DopeGhoti: yeah
#3932 [18:43] <mbentley> damn, i keep getting the 'lost connection: disconnect.genericReason' error on my server
#3933 [18:43] <Bischoff> Is ther any "right" way of uninstaling Minecraft?
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#3935 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> Bischoff: try deleting %AppData%/.minecraft maybe?
#3936 [18:43] <Kealper`> fuckin' sigh
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#3939 [18:43] <Mathuin> Okay, I took away too much stuff. Now I have no X. :-)
#3940 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> ^ that would be it; that's where it stores everything
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#3942 [18:45] <Bischoff> DopeGhoti: That fixed it, thanks
#3943 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> \o/
#3944 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> that'll be $8 ;)
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#3946 [18:46] <Bischoff> Right away
#3947 [18:46] <Bischoff> ^^
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#3952 [18:56] <Mathuin> Okay, hopefully reinstalling nvidia-current will at least give me back X.
#3953 [18:56] <Mathuin> I cannot help but wonder if Weyland will be better or worse at this crap.
#3954 [18:57] <Bischoff> this is odd, when i spawned in my world, my character only travels automatically backwards and the only thing i can do is strafeing left and right
#3955 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> Weyland?
#3956 [18:57] <Mathuin> Hurrah, X has returned.
#3957 [18:57] <Bischoff> ^^
#3958 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> Bischoff: press 'S'
#3959 [18:57] <Mathuin> Weyland I believe is what Ubuntu wants to replace X with in a verison or two.
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#3961 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> ah. Interesting.
#3962 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> is it a superset of X?
#3963 [18:58] <Bischoff> DopeGhoti: Dident work but i presses esc
#3964 [18:58] <Mathuin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland
#3965 [18:58] <Bischoff> and now its back to normal
#3966 [18:58] <Kealper> Mathuin: they will not be replacing X entirely for quite a while
#3967 [18:58] <Kealper> but they will be introducing Wayland soon, so they can start migrating stuff over to it with time
#3968 [18:58] <Mathuin> Kealper: probably not ever, but there's a whole lot of X that nobody uses anymore -- like exporting displays across DECnet. :-)
#3969 [18:59] <Kealper> indeed...X is old and bloated, and tbh i think it could be a good thing that Canonicle will be taking up Wayland, it could help the project quite a lot
#3970 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> I use X11/SSH forwarding daily :p
#3971 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> though I'm starting to use nomachine.. which still uses X11 forwarding
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#3974 [19:04] <Kealper> so...does anyone else just absolutely hate the us government as of late?
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#3977 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> of late? less than, a few years ago
#3978 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> I am not a fan of the FCC's recent BS
#3979 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> but finally kibosing DADT? Reducing nuclear munitions? Of these I approve.
#3980 [19:05] <Kealper> like seriously...this country sucks so hard now...canada is starting to look better and better the more time passes...higher taxes are a small price to pay for what canada offers
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#3982 [19:06] <Kealper> i was watching both parts of Steal This Film last night...man that sort of BS makes me rage so hard
#3983 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> haven't seen it.
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#3985 [19:07] <Kealper> it's pretty decent
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#3987 [19:08] <Kealper> but like with the TPB server raids a while back in sweden...
#3988 [19:09] <Kealper> the us govt basically told sweden to take it down or they would put sanctions against them...that is total bullshit, and the government puppetry really needs to stop :S
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#3990 [19:10] <mib_qhm0g1> hi ppl
#3991 [19:10] <mib_qhm0g1> i have a important question to ask
#3992 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> don't ask to ask; just ask :)
#3993 [19:11] <mib_qhm0g1> why cant i log into the website or the minecraft client
#3994 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> because you forgot your password?
#3995 [19:11] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i was actually thinking of making AuBot say those exact words on it's motd lol
#3996 [19:12] <mib_qhm0g1> no i havnt forgot my password
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#3998 [19:12] <mib_qhm0g1> i use the same password for almost everything >.>
#3999 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> because you have a moral objection to the HTTP protocol?
#4000 [19:12] <secretchurro> can someone help me setup a server on a mac?
#4001 [19:12] <mib_qhm0g1> HTTP protocol ?
#4002 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> secretchurro: download jar; forward ports; run jar, enjoy server.
#4003 [19:13] <mib_qhm0g1> wha ?
#4004 [19:13] <secretchurro> forward ports?
#4005 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> mib_qhm0g1: okay, this isn't working. Why don't _you_ tell _us_ why you can't log into the site.
#4006 [19:13] <Mathuin> Sigh. Crash. *cries*.
#4007 [19:13] <mib_qhm0g1> i type in my username and password
#4008 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> clearly my telepsychotronic powers are failing me and I cannot read your mind from here at the moment.
#4009 [19:13] <mib_qhm0g1> and i click login
#4010 [19:13] <mib_qhm0g1> it says
#4011 [19:14] <mib_qhm0g1> Failed to log in. Wrong username or password
#4012 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> well, given that I can log in
#4013 [19:14] <mib_qhm0g1> and i got my username and password saved on the client
#4014 [19:14] <secretchurro> how do i forward a port on a mac?
#4015 [19:14] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: the #ubuntu channel on freenode has that in its motd, and the !ask command on the bot will tell people that too. (re: don't ask to ask)
#4016 [19:14] <mib_qhm0g1> on dec19 it worked fine
#4017 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> I'd have to guess that your username or password are being entered incorrectly
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#4019 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: I often chip in on that channel :)
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#4021 [19:15] <mib_qhm0g1> i sent a email with the password
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#4023 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> perhaps a visit to www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp might be in order.
#4024 [19:18] <mib_qhm0g1> there....
#4025 [19:18] <secretchurro> how do i forward a port on a mac?
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#4029 [19:21] <zenon> what exactly did notch update on december 20th
#4030 [19:21] <zenon> im only getting more lag then usual
#4031 [19:21] <Bischoff> hehe
#4032 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> zenon: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minecraft+version+history&l=1
#4033 [19:22] <Mathuin> zenon: I think it's leafs.
#4034 [19:22] <Kealper> leaf decay lag was fixed today
#4035 [19:23] <Kealper> my game runs as smooth as a baby's bottom again
#4036 [19:23] <Mathuin> I didn't exactly understand what leaf decay was.
#4037 [19:23] <Kealper> when you cut down trees, the leaves will slowly decay without you having to break them manually
#4038 [19:24] <zenon> ah thanks
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#4040 [19:24] <zenon> my doesnt
#4041 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> your doesnt?
#4042 [19:24] <Kealper> lol
#4043 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> what is a doesnt exactly?
#4044 [19:24] <zenon> woah thats new
#4045 [19:25] <zenon> names when i scroll over an item
#4046 [19:25] <zenon> doesn't
#4047 [19:25] <zenon> does not
#4048 [19:25] <Lithorn> Im having a problem with my minecraft. Before the Beta, thing we're fine. During beta, the lag, that was fixed with 02. But now I am constantly seeing my Minecraft turn black/freeze then die.
#4049 [19:25] <Kealper> Lithorn: linux?
#4050 [19:25] <Lithorn> Ive deleted everything, including the .minecraft, and no Windows 7, and it still bugs out
#4051 [19:25] <Kealper> weird
#4052 [19:25] <Kealper> mine seems fine
#4053 [19:25] <Lithorn> I can play randomly
#4054 [19:25] <Kealper> how long before it blackscreens and dies?
#4055 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> have you the latest Java installed?
#4056 [19:26] <Lithorn> SOmetimes Im good for a half hour
#4057 [19:26] <Kealper> and did you restart your computer?
#4058 [19:26] <Lithorn> Yea
#4059 [19:26] <Lithorn> Yea
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#4061 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> Have you tried running under a new Windows user profile?
#4062 [19:26] <Lithorn> I shouldn't have to
#4063 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> no, but that would determine if there were someithg on your profile that were interefering with Minecraft
#4064 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> first rule of troubleshooting- eliminate variables.
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#4066 [19:27] <Lithorn> If the control is the same, but the variable is different, why would the control have a problem
#4067 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> the control in this case is minecraft
#4068 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> the variable is your user profile
#4069 [19:27] <Lithorn> Actually
#4070 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> actually
#4071 [19:28] <Lithorn> The control is my computer. Nothing has changed but minecraft
#4072 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> go go gadget bad terminology
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#4074 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> anyway
#4075 [19:28] <Lithorn> Why would my profile be at fault when its function just fine till now
#4076 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> beause windows often does crazy shit?
#4077 [19:29] <Kealper> because minecraft, being the variable, has been changed
#4078 [19:29] <OldSnake> when i make a server, i can connect to it but my friend cant any fixes?
#4079 [19:29] <Lithorn> Thanks Kealper
#4080 [19:29] <Kealper> although
#4081 [19:30] <Lithorn> Hmm?
#4082 [19:30] <Kealper> i see what dope is saying about mc being the control, since we know it does not work with said user profile as it is
#4083 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> most users' profiles have extra tools, utilities, and knick-knacks that will not be running on a clean profile
#4084 [19:30] <Lithorn> I do not
#4085 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> Have you tried monitoring your GPU's temperature over time whilst playing Minecraft?
#4086 [19:31] <Lithorn> See thats the thing. It does work with this profile. The last alpha I had worked fine. The beta 01 worked fine despite the horrid lag
#4087 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> it could be a heat issue
#4088 [19:31] <Kealper> i wish standing on top of fences would get fixed...
#4089 [19:31] <Lithorn> My GPU runs a cool 42c
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#4091 [19:31] <OldSnake> how come when i run a server i can join but my friend cant?
#4092 [19:31] <Lithorn> At full
#4093 [19:31] <Kealper> Lithorn: with MC running?
#4094 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> Have you tried monitoring your GPU's temperature over time _whilst playing Minecraft_?
#4095 [19:31] <Lithorn> With any App running that requires it
#4096 [19:31] <Kealper> OldSnake: they are using the wrong ip to connect
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#4098 [19:32] <Lithorn> I use Rivatuner to keep the fan at a good %
#4099 [19:32] <SevFTW> Oldsnake: send him your external ip that you get on this site www.whatsmyip.com
#4100 [19:32] <Kealper> what he said
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#4102 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> (I still prefer ipchicken.com)
#4103 [19:32] <OldSnake> with the same port i opened for MC?
#4104 [19:32] <Lithorn> Also if it was overheat, Many other games I play would be setting it off
#4105 [19:32] <Kealper> lol
#4106 [19:32] <Lithorn> Like Crysis
#4107 [19:32] <Kealper> yes OldSnake
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#4109 [19:32] <Kealper> Lithorn: have you tried reinstalling minecraft?
#4110 [19:33] <Lithorn> Yea, first thing I did
#4111 [19:33] <Lithorn> See the odd thing is
#4112 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> have you checked for Java or video driver updates?
#4113 [19:33] <Lithorn> Its random amount of time before it freezes
#4114 [19:33] <SevFTW> lithorn: what's happening?
#4115 [19:33] <Kealper> i don't just mean redownloading the exe....i mean deleting the bin/resources dirs
#4116 [19:33] <Lithorn> Yea
#4117 [19:33] <Lithorn> Sometimes I can even get 2 hours, then Bam, froze
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#4119 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> would it kill you to try a new user profile?
#4120 [19:34] <Sircell> Hey everyone =). I read the support and the FAQ on the website, but there was a question I still am unsure of about purchasing Minecraft?
#4121 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> or, if that's just too much work, end-task everything not part of Windows itself before running Minecraft?
#4122 [19:34] <Kealper> to be totally honest, i don't think it's a minecraft problem, but rather a problem with either graphics drivers, or something of the sort :S
#4123 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> Sircell: don't ask to ask; just ask :)
#4124 [19:34] <Kealper> Sircell: ask away
#4125 [19:34] <Sircell> cool! haha, I wasn't sure if I was interrupting.
#4126 [19:34] <OldSnake> when my friend puts in my ip with port, he gets unknown host error
#4127 [19:34] * DopeGhoti runs a multithreaded OS in his brain.
#4127 [19:34] <Sircell> is it possible at all to purchase MineCraft with a Visa Pre-paid credit card? I was getting the Not A Valid Card error
#4128 [19:35] <Kealper> OldSnake: is he puting it like ip:port?
#4129 [19:35] <Lithorn> I'll just VM a new profile. See if it does the same thing
#4130 [19:35] <Kealper> Sircell: not sure, many people have had issues with those prepaid things :S
#4131 [19:35] <OldSnake> wait what?
#4132 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> Sircell: I sometimes have that problem on e. g. PSN.
#4133 [19:35] <SevFTW> sircell: I was wondering the same(ish) thing, I have a visa debit card and it works fine for steam but Minecraft + iTunes reject the security code :\
#4134 [19:35] <OldSnake> does he need the router port or IP port?
#4135 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> OldSnake: the TCP port
#4136 [19:36] <Sircell> hmm, that's weird. =\ I googled the problem, didn't really see much relevant to it. Some people said it would, some said it wouldn't.
#4137 [19:36] <Kealper> he needs your actual ip
#4138 [19:36] <Lithorn> Yea same thing. Tried to mine a block, blackscreen and java shat itself
#4139 [19:36] <Sircell> I suppose I'll go try again, make sure everything was registered properly.
#4140 [19:36] <Kealper> Lithorn: you seem well-learned, so download the jar, and launch it through a cmd window or a batch
#4141 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> Sircell: you could try linking the card to PayPal, and then using PayPal after all? :)
#4142 [19:36] <Lithorn> Alright
#4143 [19:36] <Sircell> Hey... never thought of that!
#4144 [19:36] <Kealper> that will output some debug data, so you can see wtf is going on
#4145 [19:37] <Sircell> I did read that PayPal was more stable for MineCraft. Thanks! I'll go try it =)
#4146 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> Sircell: good luck!
#4147 [19:37] <OldSnake> i give him my IP and the router port, he puts then in and failed to connect
#4148 [19:37] <Kealper> hmm....i guess it's official name is Glowstone, which is good because that's the name i liked the most lol
#4149 [19:38] <OldSnake> them*
#4150 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> OldSnake: what do you mean when you type 'router port'?
#4151 [19:38] <OldSnake> the 25565
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#4153 [19:38] <OldSnake> the TCP one
#4154 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I still like 'lightstone'
#4155 [19:38] <Lithorn> I do wonder if im the only one getting these random freezes
#4156 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> OldSnake: jsut checking :)
#4157 [19:38] <Kealper> OldSnake: just give him your external ip, he does not need the port
#4158 [19:38] <Lithorn> [INFO] Lithorn lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#4159 [19:38] <Lithorn> Whats that mean
#4160 [19:38] <OldSnake> disconnected
#4161 [19:38] <Kealper> lol
#4162 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> that means you disconnected from the server for some reason
#4163 [19:38] <Lithorn> I know that part
#4164 [19:39] <Lithorn> Usually because I can "Hear" minecraft, But the screen is black
#4165 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> the error message isn't exactly specific, nor can anyone who didn't write the exception handling be.
#4166 [19:39] <Kealper> awwwww yeaaaaahhhh 2010-12-22 19:39:00 [INFO] Kealper lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
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#4168 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> \o/
#4169 [19:39] <SevFTW> lol^
#4170 [19:39] <Kealper> doin it right, like a boss, minecraft!
#4171 [19:40] <Kealper> client says read timed out, so i guess genericReason is socket timeout
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#4173 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: nope, because there's a specific message for timeouts :)
#4174 [19:40] <Lithorn> Same thing ><
#4175 [19:40] <Kealper> hmm
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#4177 [19:41] <Kealper> in the super fail stuff above the reason it says socket write error and read timeout
#4178 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> heh
#4179 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> "super fail stuff"
#4180 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> gonna have to remember that one.
#4181 [19:41] <Kealper> lol
#4182 [19:42] <Lithorn> One thing. It seems to only freeze up when I play it Maximized
#4183 [19:42] <OldSnake> i give my friend my IP and he still cant connect
#4184 [19:42] <Kealper> OldSnake: what ip are you giving him?
#4185 [19:42] <OldSnake> copied from whatsmyip
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#4187 [19:43] <OldSnake> the one i got from http://www.whatsmyip.org/
#4188 [19:43] <Kealper> and you are positive that you forwarded port 25565 correctly?
#4189 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> Lithorn: that points even further to a video driver or hardware issue
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#4191 [19:44] <Lithorn> Right, but the driver hasn't been changed, nor the hardware
#4192 [19:44] <Kealper> but minecraft has....
#4193 [19:44] <OldSnake> do i want to do the single port with external and internal or port range forwarding?
#4194 [19:44] <Lithorn> Just seems odd for it to work fine before 02, the not
#4195 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> there are many cases of updates for games necessitating driver updates for compatibility
#4196 [19:45] <Kealper> OldSnake: uhh....just do a port range forward, (that's what my router calls it) and have it forward 25565 to 25565
#4197 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> look at practically any NVIDIA driver changelog for example
#4198 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> s
#4199 [19:45] <Lithorn> Right, but everything I have is up to date
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#4201 [19:46] <OldSnake> i did that
#4202 [19:46] <Kealper> and it's going to the correct internal ip?
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#4204 [19:46] <OldSnake> name: Minecraft, Start: 25565 end: 25565 port: 192.168.1.110
#4205 [19:46] <OldSnake> protocol: TCP
#4206 [19:47] <Kealper> and you can join your own server when using the ip 192.168.1.110?
#4207 [19:47] <OldSnake> yes
#4208 [19:47] <Kealper> hmmm....what is your external ip? i'd like to see if maybe your friend is just failing miserably
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#4210 [19:48] <nipper> How much bandwidth would a 30man server use in a month?
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#4212 [19:49] <Kealper> i'd imagine quite a lot
#4213 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> depends on how popular it is
#4214 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> I could run a 300 slot server right now and it's use hardly any at all if no one plays.
#4215 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> s/it's/it'd/
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#4219 [19:51] <nipper> I just want to find out to buy a server some where. I need to know how much the bandwidth package im looking for.
#4220 [19:51] <Kealper> as previously stated, if it's 30 people constantly, a lot....if it's set at 30 and it never even touches that cap...a lot less
#4221 [19:51] <Kealper> lol
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#4223 [19:52] <nipper> Well how much is alot.
#4224 [19:52] <Sushi> Hi everyone. Where's the best place to go for server lists?
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#4226 [19:53] <Kealper> i'd almost be willing to bet that 1tb might just cut it...i really don't know...your best bet is to just start with like 500 gigs of transfer, and if you go over...upgrade your package until you've found equilibrium between price and bandwidth
#4227 [19:53] <Sushi> Just trying to track down a low-ping vanilla SMP server, preferably anarchy
#4228 [19:56] <Lithorn> okay im thinking its a loop back. If I dont do anything. Nothing happens lol. Tried mining, and bam xD
#4229 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> solution: craft; don't mine
#4230 [19:57] <Kealper> lol
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#4232 [19:58] <Lithorn> lol
#4233 [19:58] <Lithorn> but i gotta
#4234 [19:58] <Kealper> did you ever open it up through a cmd window to get the debug when it starts to fail?
#4235 [19:58] <Lithorn> I ran the jar file through CMD, but I did not get a debug
#4236 [19:59] <Lithorn> Im not so great at Dos
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#4238 [19:59] <Sircell> Hey guys, me again. Registering with PayPal didn't work, PayPal apparantly doesn't like pre-paid credit cards =\
#4239 [20:00] <nipper> That they don't.
#4240 [20:00] <Sircell> Aaaand using the pre-paid card through the normal 'Buy Now Through Visa Card' option on the MineCraft site doesn't seem to want to work, either. :( Is there an email address I could send Notch a mail at?
#4241 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> payments@mojang.com I believe
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#4243 [20:02] <Sircell> okay, cool! I wasn't sure if that one was JUST for people who had already made payments yet or not. Thanks for the help, I'll give it a shot.
#4244 [20:03] <Lithorn> Is it me, Or did they add random exploding blocks
#4245 [20:03] <Lithorn> Or am I just digging into creepers I can see
#4246 [20:03] <Lithorn> Cant*
#4247 [20:03] <Lithorn> Dug into some sand to have it explode in my face
#4248 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> sure a creeper didn't sneak up behind you?
#4249 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> that's kinda what they do :)
#4250 [20:04] <Lithorn> Nope
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#4252 [20:04] <Lithorn> No creeper within sight, dug a block, BOOm
#4253 [20:05] <Lithorn> Happened 3 times now, glad I have armor on
#4254 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> that's be hillaristurbing if Notch added naturally forming TNT
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#4257 [20:05] <Lithorn> My buddy Epik whos playing with me saw nothing when I got sploded the third time
#4258 [20:05] <Lithorn> All I was doing was digging some sand
#4259 [20:06] <Lithorn> Scared the piss outa me the first time
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#4261 [20:10] <Lithorn> OW
#4262 [20:10] <Lithorn> That has got to be it, Random TNT
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#4264 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> this on a server, or SSP?
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#4266 [20:14] <TheMiner93> Hey is minecraft lagging for anyone else?
#4267 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> not for me; I still get a solid 160FPS
#4268 [20:17] <TheMiner93> I just got it today and I have horrible lag I don't understand why
#4269 [20:17] <TheMiner93> like sometimes the whole game freezes
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#4271 [20:18] <mib_1s25xn> Question! Can i somehow send my map ive made on Minecraft beta, to a friend? so he can use it?
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#4273 [20:18] <Mathuin> mib_1s25xn: does your friend have a beta key?
#4274 [20:21] <Lithorn> Jesus
#4275 [20:21] <Lithorn> Its gotta be in the sand
#4276 [20:21] <Mathuin> Lithorn: the worm is the spice. :-)
#4277 [20:21] <Lithorn> LOL
#4278 [20:22] <Lithorn> If Notch did add that in
#4279 [20:22] <Lithorn> That is cool and deadly
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#4281 [20:24] <mbentley> i don't doubt that he added it. the real question is did he mean to? :D
#4282 [20:24] <Lithorn> lol
#4283 [20:24] <Lithorn> Well random exploding sand... I Like it
#4284 [20:24] <Lithorn> Adds more danger
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#4288 [20:31] <Mathuin> Out of curiosity, does it explode when you use a shovel as well as when you punch it?
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#4297 [20:38] <Lithorn> The black screen seems to happen when I use my mousewheel >.>; Brb
#4298 [20:38] <Lithorn> If I scroll too fast it hangs
#4299 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> have you any swanky uber-featureful mouse drivers/utilities running?
#4300 [20:39] <Lithorn> Yes I do, Though it wasnt a problem before.
#4301 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> that sounds like something that'd be revealed by running in a clean user profile :p
#4302 [20:39] <Lithorn> Logi setpoint
#4303 [20:39] <Lithorn> Did I mention this was not a problem before
#4304 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> Before is irrelevent.
#4305 [20:40] <Lithorn> You saying, That if it worked on V1, and it dosent in v2, Then obviously is the machine running the version and not the program itseldf
#4306 [20:40] <Lithorn> I see what your saying now
#4307 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> <3 Logitech hardeare. </3 Logitech software.
#4308 [20:40] <Lithorn> Blame the hardware before the program
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#4310 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> The point, with no regard for recent updates, or "it was working yesterday" kvetching, of testing a clean user profile
#4311 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> is to test whether there is some interference from some program or other that's running in your normal one
#4312 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> like I said: first rule of troubleshooting- eliminate variables.
#4313 [20:42] <Lithorn> And I told ya before, it did the same thing in a new profile
#4314 [20:42] <Lithorn> So now what
#4315 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> you said that you tried it in a VM
#4316 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> which was baffling, but whatever
#4317 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> I also told you to end-task anything not a part of Windows itself
#4318 [20:43] <Lithorn> Yea
#4319 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> SetPoint != part of Windows itself.
#4320 [20:43] <Lithorn> Setpoint isnt apart of windows, I thought you loved logitech?
#4321 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> <3 Logitech hardeare. </3 Logitech software.
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#4323 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> anywho; workday over. Now I go home. :)
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#4325 [20:45] <blaphmat> r there any servers fopr beta up right now?
#4326 [20:45] <Lithorn> The odd thing is, It seems more than I are having the same problem.
#4327 [20:45] <blaphmat> like anyone have an ip adress i can use?
#4328 [20:46] <Lithorn> I can count atleast 13 people whom I've talked with who encounter the same issue >.>
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#4334 [20:53] <Sarge> OK, I have a question concerning the downloadable version of the game. It tells me it can't run because my graphics card does not have the capability for accelerated OpenGL. Yet, I can play the browser version just fine. Why is this?
#4335 [20:57] <nipper> Can anyone tell me how well a 30man server will run on a 10mbit line with peak being 30 but normal 15 to 20 man.
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#4337 [21:02] <Lithorn> How do I run the debug for minecraft
#4338 [21:02] <Lithorn> nvm
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#4341 [21:04] <xeche> hello. does anyone know how multiplayer support fares now that minecraft is beta?
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#4343 [21:06] <Coll> uh
#4344 [21:07] <Coll> I think it fares well?
#4345 [21:09] <xeche> my queer language aside. last time i tried (alpha two days ago), blocks couldn't be removed
#4346 [21:09] <xeche> which kind of, you know, breaks the game
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#4349 [21:09] <Matttttthew> That's likely server lag
#4350 [21:09] <xeche> running on localhost?
#4351 [21:10] <Matttttthew> *shrug*
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#4353 [21:10] * Matttttthew throws grapes a people who know about this stuff
#4353 [21:10] <Matttttthew> *at
#4354 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Was server lag two days ago
#4355 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Leaf decay bug
#4356 [21:11] <Coll> yeah as far as I am aware it is fixed
#4357 [21:11] <Coll> I havnt been on smp in forever
#4358 [21:11] <Coll> so I cant say for sure
#4359 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> It's fixed for the most part
#4360 [21:12] <xeche> the exe is still the alpha one?
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#4362 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> There is no more alpha, it's beta now
#4363 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> website hasn't been updated to say it's beta, but it's beta
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#4365 [21:13] <xeche> right. i couldn't see a server executable along with the beta executable
#4366 [21:13] <xeche> should probably look again
#4367 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Same place it's always been.
#4368 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the download page
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#4370 [21:14] <xeche> which says alpha :)
#4371 [21:14] <Lithorn> Seems I get the black screen with this error. 1285 Out of memory
#4372 [21:14] <xeche> someone should probably update that page if it is in fact the current server executable
#4373 [21:15] <Lithorn> 4g of memory and I ran out?
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#4375 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> xeche - It is
#4376 [21:16] <xeche> alright. thanks :)
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#4380 [21:21] <nipper> Anyone here ever use FEhosting and know if there any good? I looked for reviews I don't see any bad ones
#4381 [21:22] <Jim_> I recoommend Multiplay for hosting.
#4382 [21:22] <Jim_> The only downside is that they are hMod only
#4383 [21:23] <nipper> Not a issue. But I know of want my own I like to host TS3 as well and a website toboot.
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#4386 [21:24] <Jim_> They do TS3 hosting also.
#4387 [21:24] <Jim_> Not sure about Web.
#4388 [21:24] <nipper> Yeah but costs extra. If I get a VPS I can do it my self. Which is what I want.
#4389 [21:25] <Jim_> OK.
#4390 [21:26] <nipper> I was thinking about using FE with the unmanganged with the unmetered 10mbit line.
#4391 [21:26] <Coll> there was a guide on minecraft forums about a item farming building
#4392 [21:26] <Coll> I cant seem to find it anymore
#4393 [21:26] <Coll> :<
#4394 [21:26] <nipper> You mean the monster spawn tower?
#4395 [21:26] <Coll> yes
#4396 [21:26] <nipper> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=55552
#4397 [21:27] <nipper> It still works but the 0,0 is no longer in game.
#4398 [21:27] <Coll> dont really care about 0,0
#4399 [21:27] <Coll> XD
#4400 [21:27] <nipper> I know If you where smart you set up 3 towers with one item belt.
#4401 [21:27] <nipper> get about the same drops as a 0,0
#4402 [21:29] <Coll> Ok ell thanks for the link
#4403 [21:29] <Coll> just need to get a lot of gunpowder
#4404 [21:29] <Coll> now to find out where I can start building this
#4405 [21:30] <nipper> lol
#4406 [21:30] <nipper> It's a nice thing to get. And once they add more mob types it will be nice.
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#4408 [21:36] <xaviergmail> hey umm in hard mode can monsters open doors?
#4409 [21:36] <xaviergmail> O_o
#4410 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> No
#4411 [21:36] <xaviergmail> ok :D
#4412 [21:37] <xaviergmail> zombies spawn slowly even in hard mode D:
#4413 [21:38] <xaviergmail> i just finished my zombieowner
#4414 [21:38] <xaviergmail> I'm getting loads of feathers
#4415 [21:38] <xaviergmail> O_o
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#4419 [21:43] <montezuma> On my server whenever someone gets hurt they regain health, how do I stop
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#4421 [21:45] <montezuma> is it because spawn monsters is false?
#4422 [21:45] <xaviergmail> ok idk what happened but minecraft froze for a sec then came back without sound X_x
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#4424 [21:46] <montezuma> hello?
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#4426 [21:46] <SevFTW> hey
#4427 [21:46] <help> hello
#4428 [21:46] <SevFTW> hi
#4429 [21:46] <help> i need help with the multiplayer
#4430 [21:46] <montezuma> on my server people regain health how do i stop
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#4432 [21:47] <SevFTW> turn on monsters i believe
#4433 [21:47] <SevFTW> it worked for me
#4434 [21:47] * help is now known as Guest756649696
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#4436 [21:47] <Guest756649696> my friend can't connect to me
#4437 [21:47] <SevFTW> are you giving him your external IP?
#4438 [21:47] <montezuma> ugh but then The creepers will blow up my shit
#4439 [21:47] <Guest756649696> he says that the minecraft client says connection refused
#4440 [21:47] <SevFTW> check it here www.whatsmyip.org
#4441 [21:47] <Guest756649696> yea
#4442 [21:48] <Guest756649696> im giving him my ip and port
#4443 [21:48] <xaviergmail> guest, have you port forwarded?
#4444 [21:48] <Guest756649696> yes
#4445 [21:48] <xaviergmail> id your ip 127.0.0.1
#4446 [21:48] <xaviergmail> is*
#4447 [21:48] <Guest756649696> np
#4448 [21:48] <SevFTW> guest your external IP right?
#4449 [21:48] <Guest756649696> no*
#4450 [21:48] <Guest756649696> yea
#4451 [21:48] <Guest756649696> its 71.xx.xxx.xxx
#4452 [21:48] <SevFTW> the one on whats my ip?
#4453 [21:48] <Guest756649696> yea
#4454 [21:48] <xaviergmail> canyouseeme.org
#4455 [21:48] <Guest756649696> 71.89.116.194
#4456 [21:48] <Guest756649696> IP
#4457 [21:49] <xaviergmail> then type your port
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#4459 [21:49] <montezuma> make sure he typed it in right
#4460 [21:49] <SevFTW> what's your port?
#4461 [21:49] <Guest756649696> can someone connect to me to make sure it works
#4462 [21:49] <montezuma> cause people are stupid that way
#4463 [21:49] <xaviergmail> i can
#4464 [21:49] <Guest756649696> 25565
#4465 [21:49] <Guest756649696> he isnt computer illiterate
#4466 [21:49] <Guest756649696> if thats what youre saying
#4467 [21:49] <montezuma> yeah so make sure he typed it in right
#4468 [21:49] <Guest756649696> he did
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#4470 [21:49] <montezuma> oh
#4471 [21:49] <montezuma> ill try to connect
#4472 [21:49] <Guest756649696> k
#4473 [21:50] <montezuma> nope cant
#4474 [21:50] <xaviergmail> I can't neither
#4475 [21:50] <SevFTW> guest, what's your ip and port?
#4476 [21:50] <xaviergmail> guest
#4477 [21:50] <Guest756649696> weird
#4478 [21:50] <xaviergmail> go to canyouseeme.org and in the port box type 25565
#4479 [21:50] <xaviergmail> if it says success then idk
#4480 [21:50] <Guest756649696> oh
#4481 [21:50] <xaviergmail> if it says fail then you haven't port forwarded correctly
#4482 [21:50] <Guest756649696> fail
#4483 [21:51] <montezuma> :D
#4484 [21:51] <xaviergmail> your portforwarding tcp right?
#4485 [21:51] <Guest756649696> i think i forwarded the wrong number hehe
#4486 [21:51] <xaviergmail> >.>
#4487 [21:51] <Guest756649696> let me check
#4488 [21:51] <montezuma> I thoguht it was udp before and that screwed me over
#4489 [21:51] <xaviergmail> ^
#4490 [21:51] <xaviergmail> :D
#4491 [21:51] <Guest756649696> ipconfig
#4492 [21:51] <Guest756649696> wrong window
#4493 [21:51] <xaviergmail> not that
#4494 [21:51] <montezuma> lol
#4495 [21:51] <xaviergmail> router
#4496 [21:51] <xaviergmail> lol
#4497 [21:51] <Guest756649696> no
#4498 [21:51] <Guest756649696> i have to type in my
#4499 [21:52] <Guest756649696> comp ip
#4500 [21:52] <Guest756649696> to get acess to the router
#4501 [21:52] <montezuma> he was looking for default gateway
#4502 [21:52] <Guest756649696> that
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#4504 [21:52] <xaviergmail> default should either be 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1
#4505 [21:52] <Guest756649696> mines
#4506 [21:52] <Guest756649696> weird
#4507 [21:52] <montezuma> unless he doesnt use linksys
#4508 [21:52] <Guest756649696> it ends in 2.1
#4509 [21:52] <xaviergmail> im using linksys
#4510 [21:53] <xaviergmail> 192.168.1.1
#4511 [21:53] <Guest756649696> i have it set for
#4512 [21:53] <Guest756649696> port
#4513 [21:53] <xaviergmail> :O
#4514 [21:53] <montezuma> me too
#4515 [21:53] <Guest756649696> 25565
#4516 [21:53] <Guest756649696> tcp and udp
#4517 [21:53] <xaviergmail> tcp only
#4518 [21:53] <Guest756649696> only tcp right?
#4519 [21:53] <xaviergmail> -_-
#4520 [21:53] <xaviergmail> that might be it
#4521 [21:53] <xaviergmail> :O
#4522 [21:53] <xaviergmail> what router you uring?
#4523 [21:53] <xaviergmail> using*
#4524 [21:53] <Guest756649696> belkin
#4525 [21:53] <montezuma> 54g?
#4526 [21:53] <montezuma> lol
#4527 [21:54] <Guest756649696> idk
#4528 [21:54] <montezuma> dont matter
#4529 [21:54] <Guest756649696> i know how to work the ports
#4530 [21:54] <Guest756649696> which type is it
#4531 [21:54] <montezuma> tcp
#4532 [21:54] <Guest756649696> im asking which one tcp or udp or both
#4533 [21:54] <Guest756649696> thank you
#4534 [21:54] <xaviergmail> tcp
#4535 [21:54] <Guest756649696> ok offline for like 3 seconds so router resets
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#4537 [21:54] <xaviergmail> itz party time
#4538 [21:54] <xaviergmail> o wqait hess till here
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#4540 [21:55] * xaviergmail loves typos :D
#4540 [21:55] <montezuma> u router has to reset everytime u switch ports?
#4541 [21:55] <montezuma> belkin sucks
#4542 [21:55] <montezuma> linksys pwns
#4543 [21:55] <montezuma> anyway imma go to his server
#4544 [21:55] <montezuma> u gnna come?
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#4546 [21:56] <back> ok it worked guys
#4547 [21:56] <back> thanks
#4548 [21:56] <back> i had it set to udp+tcp
#4549 [21:56] <back> thanks and good days to you sirs
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#4551 [21:58] <xaviergmail> ima make one too
#4552 [21:59] <xaviergmail> >:D
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#4555 [22:00] <xaviergmail> 24 feathers so far from my zimbieowner
#4556 [22:00] <Lithorn> Aparently the Out of memory and black screen freezing is due to the fog
#4557 [22:00] <Lithorn> Setting it to normal fixed my problem
#4558 [22:01] <Lithorn> But I want to set it to far ;-;
#4559 [22:01] <Lithorn> Oh well. Norm is fine, im glad its over
#4560 [22:01] <Kealper> how much ram does your computer have?
#4561 [22:01] <Kealper> because black screens can be caused by not enough memory or not enough vram
#4562 [22:02] <Lithorn> 4g
#4563 [22:03] <Lithorn> 4g ddr2 800mhz Dual Channel on a Windows7 64bit Ultimate
#4564 [22:03] <Lithorn> It uses 2g, then dies
#4565 [22:03] <Lithorn> Though I still have 2g to spare
#4566 [22:03] <Kealper> are you specifically allocating 2 gigs?
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#4568 [22:04] <Lithorn> I have not allocated anything. I run everything standard. I forgot how to change the heap, and the only other thing I remember is paging file
#4569 [22:04] <xaviergmail> wow
#4570 [22:04] <Lithorn> The consolse says its allocating 1g
#4571 [22:04] <Lithorn> Console*
#4572 [22:04] <xaviergmail> theres so many feathers down there that the shadow under them is like
#4573 [22:04] <xaviergmail> solid black
#4574 [22:04] <Lithorn> Could you tell me how to up the heap?
#4575 [22:05] <Kealper> 2gb is more than enough....how much ram do you have on your gfx card
#4576 [22:05] <Lithorn> 1g, and a 7g Pagefile
#4577 [22:05] <Lithorn> GTX 260
#4578 [22:06] <Kealper> then yea, no idea what the issue of out of memory is....unless you were like rendering some sort of epic CAD in the background
#4579 [22:06] <Lithorn> You say 2g is fine, but the console only says its allocating 1g
#4580 [22:06] <Lithorn> Nope lol
#4581 [22:06] <Lithorn> Well
#4582 [22:06] <Lithorn> I wun Winamp, Mirc, Server, and client
#4583 [22:06] <Lithorn> Thats it
#4584 [22:07] <Lithorn> And some other stuff, but the most ram im using is maybe 700mb total
#4585 [22:07] <Lithorn> leaving me 3.3g free
#4586 [22:07] <Kealper> then idk...it just hates you
#4587 [22:07] <Lithorn> ;-;
#4588 [22:07] <Lithorn> How can I give Minecraft more memory in the heap
#4589 [22:07] <Lithorn> Insted of the inital 1g, say 2g
#4590 [22:08] <Kealper> launching the jar with cli params
#4591 [22:08] <Lithorn> Ahh
#4592 [22:08] <Lithorn> Okay I remember now thanks
#4593 [22:08] <Kealper> java -Xmx2048M -Xms2048M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#4594 [22:08] <Lithorn> Yea thats it
#4595 [22:08] <Lithorn> Thanks Kelp
#4596 [22:09] <Lithorn> I wonder if Notch will add in some more Video options
#4597 [22:09] <Hurtlock> here's hoping lith
#4598 [22:09] <Lithorn> xD
#4599 [22:09] <Hurtlock> I'm fond of fine tune tweaking
#4600 [22:09] <Lithorn> Same
#4601 [22:09] <Lithorn> Also Im hosting a beta server if anyone wants in
#4602 [22:10] <Hurtlock> 4 slider settings and a toggle is not making my day XD
#4603 [22:10] <Lithorn> No idea how many people I can support
#4604 [22:10] <Lithorn> Most ive had who didnt complain was maybe 7?
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#4607 [22:14] <xaviergmail> is there an unlimited time for objects to be on the ground?
#4608 [22:14] <xaviergmail> like zimbies that drops feathers
#4609 [22:14] <Kealper> no
#4610 [22:14] <Kealper> 5 minutes
#4611 [22:14] <xaviergmail> :(
#4612 [22:15] * xaviergmail has to collect feathers every 5 mins
#4612 [22:17] <xaviergmail> can zombies use ladders?
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#4614 [22:19] <Kealper> i don't think so, but creepers can
#4615 [22:19] <xaviergmail> 13:O
#4616 [22:20] <xaviergmail> 2 more questions
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#4618 [22:20] <xaviergmail> can bad mobs spawn in the air if it's too dark and can they spawn in low water?
#4619 [22:21] <Kealper> like what do you mean in the air?
#4620 [22:21] <Kealper> and no they can't spawn in water
#4621 [22:21] <xaviergmail> like
#4622 [22:21] <xaviergmail> in a dungeon
#4623 [22:21] <xaviergmail> like above my head
#4624 [22:24] <Lithorn> Anyone else notice a duribility bug with pics and such
#4625 [22:25] <Lithorn> Takes forever to get the bar to show up, then after a while despite having full hp, it breaks
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#4628 [22:27] <xaviergmail> what?
#4629 [22:27] <xaviergmail> never did that to me
#4630 [22:28] <xaviergmail> and I just mined like a 20x20x20 (approx)
#4631 [22:28] <Lithorn> iTS been doing it to me
#4632 [22:29] <xaviergmail> mac?
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#4634 [22:31] <Lithorn> pc
#4635 [22:31] <Lithorn> Im sure if I erase minecraft again it will fix it
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#4643 [22:43] <Jorc> Hi
#4644 [22:43] <SevFTW> hey
#4645 [22:43] <Jorc> Im tryna download the BetterLight / Ambient Occulsion mod, but it asks for an 'Output' - where shall I set the output to?
#4646 [22:43] <SevFTW> sorry can you explain that once more?
#4647 [22:44] <Jorc> Im trying to download the betterlight mod but it asks for an Output place to put the file, where shall it be? Or does it not mattr
#4648 [22:44] <Jorc> matter*
#4649 [22:44] * Ronjoe is now known as Ronjoe|offline
#4650 [22:45] <SevFTW> Just save it to your downloads folder :P
#4651 [22:46] <SevFTW> what OS are you running?
#4652 [22:46] <xaviergmail> read the topic
#4653 [22:47] <xaviergmail> !topic
#4654 [22:47] <xaviergmail> :/ ima just psate it then
#4655 [22:47] <xaviergmail> Welcome to #MinecraftHelp! Please ask your question, and someone will try to answer it and help you as soon as they can! PLEASE DO NOT ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY SORT OF MODS FOR THE SERVER OR THE CLIENT! ANY QUESTION PRETAINING TO MODS WILL BE IGNORED!
#4656 [22:47] <SevFTW> can I answer it?
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#4658 [22:47] <xaviergmail> pm him
#4659 [22:48] <SevFTW> ok
#4660 [22:50] <SevFTW> :P
#4661 [22:50] <SevFTW> :D
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#4680 [23:41] <Shadow386> oh darn.
#4681 [23:41] <xales> lol Shadow386
#4682 [23:41] <Shadow386> meh, I guess ours can be backup ;D
#4683 [23:41] <xales> lol
#4684 [23:41] <Shadow386> fogWraith just sayin hai!
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