#1 [00:00] <fork> good evening mob
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#7 [00:10] <slide> If I have a wooden pressure plate on some stone, and put a redstone torch underneeth that standing vertically, shouldnt the torch turn on/off when i press the pressure plate?
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#11 [00:20] <SevFTW> I don't think so
#12 [00:21] <Coll> Slide I think it should
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#14 [00:22] <mrkcmty> Howdy
#15 [00:22] <slide> hrm
#16 [00:22] <SevFTW> hey
#17 [00:22] <mrkcmty> Hi
#18 [00:22] <mrkcmty> I'm having login issues
#19 [00:23] <mrkcmty> does anyone know how quickly Mojang responds to that email address provided?
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#22 [00:24] <SevFTW> what's the problem with loggin in?
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#25 [00:24] <mrkcmty> "Failed to log in. Wrong username and/or password."
#26 [00:25] <SevFTW> have u clicked forgot password yet?
#27 [00:25] <mrkcmty> then I tried using the "Forgot Password" page
#28 [00:25] <SevFTW> aha
#29 [00:25] <SevFTW> I see
#30 [00:25] <mrkcmty> but when I entered my email I received "Couldn't find that user."
#31 [00:25] <SevFTW> and what happened?
#32 [00:26] <mrkcmty> but I'm certain it is the correct email because I received a confirmation for my gift codes at that same address on the 19th
#33 [00:28] <slide> any way to extend the time of a button?
#34 [00:28] <SevFTW> slide
#35 [00:28] <SevFTW> you could try building a delay
#36 [00:28] <slide> hrm, or i could build a latch
#37 [00:28] <slide> that would probably work
#38 [00:29] <slide> damn bedrock is killing me though hah
#39 [00:30] <mrkcmty> I emailed the address on the page, but the forum and feedback pages seem to indicate responses are rare
#40 [00:30] <SevFTW> lool
#41 [00:30] <mrkcmty> ?
#42 [00:34] <SevFTW> @slide
#43 [00:34] <mrkcmty> *sigh* I've fallen into the oblivion
#44 [00:34] * Ronjoe|offline is now known as Ronjoe
#45 [00:34] <slide> heh
#46 [00:34] <mrkcmty> how can skype and Minecraft forsake me in the same day!
#47 [00:35] <SevFTW> :( if it makes you feel better, facebook chat is being super stupid today, not that it isn't normally :P
#48 [00:36] <Lithorn> Im still wanting to sell my GW
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#51 [00:37] <quangtran> hi
#52 [00:37] <quangtran> can anyone help me
#53 [00:37] <SevFTW> hey
#54 [00:37] <SevFTW> depends whats ur problem
#55 [00:37] <quangtran> uhh
#56 [00:37] <quangtran> texture packs on alpha
#57 [00:37] <quangtran> :P
#58 [00:38] <SevFTW> what about it?
#59 [00:38] <quangtran> or
#60 [00:38] <quangtran> beta
#61 [00:38] <quangtran> uh
#62 [00:38] <quangtran> so theres a texturepack folder right?
#63 [00:38] <SevFTW> yes
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#65 [00:38] <quangtran> and i put a texture pack i downloaded into it
#66 [00:38] <quangtran> and then when i load minecraft and try to use the texture pack it wont work
#67 [00:39] <quangtran> can you help me fix it?
#68 [00:39] <SevFTW> what's the link to the download?
#69 [00:39] <quangtran> uhh
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#73 [00:39] <quangtran> lol
#74 [00:39] <quangtran> sry
#75 [00:40] <quangtran> it is..
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#77 [00:40] <quangtran> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=31331
#78 [00:40] <mr_wibble> Hello
#79 [00:40] <mr_wibble> Question someone
#80 [00:40] <Contrillion> Yes
#81 [00:40] <quangtran> sevFTW?
#82 [00:41] <mr_wibble> What is the best Online Multiplayer server Creative or a Survival one
#83 [00:41] <SevFTW> ok quangtran
#84 [00:41] <quangtran> goto nut's freebuild server 24/7 :D
#85 [00:41] <quangtran> ok
#86 [00:41] <quangtran> so
#87 [00:41] <quangtran> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=31331
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#89 [00:41] <quangtran> o.o
#90 [00:41] <SevFTW> I don't think it'll work with that... let me try it though..
#91 [00:41] <mr_wibble> hmm
#92 [00:41] <mr_wibble> whats ip?
#93 [00:42] <quangtran> its creative?
#94 [00:42] <quangtran> :P
#95 [00:42] <quangtran> so
#96 [00:42] <quangtran> idk
#97 [00:42] <quangtran> ha
#98 [00:42] <quangtran> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=2d1fd5df7dbdcac1d98f9b7b238cc5d6
#99 [00:42] <quangtran> i think that works
#100 [00:42] <mr_wibble> kk
#101 [00:42] <quangtran> you die if you grief
#102 [00:42] <quangtran> :D
#103 [00:42] <mr_wibble> err no
#104 [00:42] <mr_wibble> i want the beta one
#105 [00:42] <mr_wibble> where its on your own a[[
#106 [00:42] <quangtran> ohhh
#107 [00:42] <mr_wibble> app
#108 [00:42] <quangtran> then
#109 [00:43] <quangtran> idk
#110 [00:43] <quangtran> haha
#111 [00:43] <quangtran> sry
#112 [00:43] <Contrillion> mr_wibble: try asking at #minecraftbeta
#113 [00:43] <quangtran> well sevFTW?
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#115 [00:43] <SevFTW> it's still download :( sorry slow internet
#116 [00:44] <SevFTW> it is a .zip folder in your textures pack right?
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#118 [00:44] <mr_trousers> Hello
#119 [00:44] <quangtran> yes
#120 [00:44] <mr_trousers> so do u know any good Beta servers?
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#124 [00:45] <mr_trousers> ?
#125 [00:45] <SevFTW> k quangtran im just booting it up
#126 [00:46] <SevFTW> the .zip folder isn't the on u orginally downloaded right?
#127 [00:46] <quangtran> ?
#128 [00:47] <quangtran> what are you asking?
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#130 [00:47] <mr_trousers> Any good Beta servers for Minecraft
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#132 [00:48] <SevFTW> are you trying to install the HD mixcraft?
#133 [00:49] <mr_trousers> n o
#134 [00:49] <mr_trousers> no
#135 [00:49] <quangtran> yes
#136 [00:49] <SevFTW> ok it won't work with the built in
#137 [00:49] <SevFTW> you have to install it in minecraft.jar
#138 [00:49] <quangtran> oh
#139 [00:49] <quangtran> -.-
#140 [00:49] <quangtran> ok
#141 [00:49] <SevFTW> i can tell you how but not here
#142 [00:49] <quangtran> thanks
#143 [00:49] <SevFTW> it's against the rules
#144 [00:49] <quangtran> i know how
#145 [00:49] <quangtran> its cool
#146 [00:49] <quangtran> thanks anyway
#147 [00:49] <SevFTW> ok :P
#148 [00:50] <SevFTW> good luck :P
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#150 [00:50] <SevFTW> but backup ur minecraft.jar file
#151 [00:50] <SevFTW> so u can revert to it later
#152 [00:51] <quangtran> k
#153 [00:51] <quangtran> ty
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#164 [01:03] <SevFTW> ok, goodnight guys
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#172 [01:31] <MilkyWay> Hello
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#174 [01:32] <MilkyWay> Real quick question GreyVulpine
#175 [01:32] <MilkyWay> Hello
#176 [01:32] <MilkyWay> Hello
#177 [01:32] <MilkyWay> Kello
#178 [01:32] <MilkyWay> Iello
#179 [01:32] <MilkyWay> Wello
#180 [01:32] <MilkyWay> Mello
#181 [01:32] <MilkyWay> Jello
#182 [01:32] <MilkyWay> Fello
#183 [01:32] <MilkyWay> Bellow
#184 [01:32] <MilkyWay> Aellow
#185 [01:32] <MilkyWay> Oellow
#186 [01:32] <lemon-rev> stop fuck
#187 [01:33] <lemon-rev> you dont
#188 [01:33] <lemon-rev> need to spam the channel for f sake
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#191 [01:35] <wikkit> ho
#192 [01:35] <wikkit> hi
#193 [01:36] <lemon-rev> hi
#194 [01:36] <wikkit> question\
#195 [01:36] <lemon-rev> ask
#196 [01:36] <lemon-rev> dont just idle lol just ask yea
#197 [01:36] <wikkit> Whats the Best Game multiplayer game on minecraft Thats for the Latest Updagte
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#199 [01:36] <wikkit> Update
#200 [01:37] <wikkit> lol
#201 [01:37] <lemon-rev> i dont know about what servers are up and whatnot
#202 [01:37] <lemon-rev> but best game is your own
#203 [01:37] <lemon-rev> and yea well see if you can find some from google but who knows
#204 [01:37] <wikkit> na, lol i burnt my massive house down and it wont let me in bc the entry is blocked by Lava
#205 [01:38] <lemon-rev> well start mineing from scratch again
#206 [01:38] <lemon-rev> lol
#207 [01:38] <wikkit> Fuck that
#208 [01:38] <wikkit> lol
#209 [01:38] <peru> load your backup save lol
#210 [01:38] <wikkit> it took my a month
#211 [01:38] <lemon-rev> get a tree and start lol built a cup and grab the lava
#212 [01:38] <wikkit> lol no lol
#213 [01:38] <wikkit> the lava leaked
#214 [01:38] <wikkit> its all in my level
#215 [01:38] <wikkit> i spawn and run in the water
#216 [01:38] <wikkit> lol
#217 [01:39] <wikkit> Lava island i call it
#218 [01:39] <wikkit> ll
#219 [01:39] <wikkit> lol
#220 [01:39] <peru> easy fill the lava blocks with dirt blocks
#221 [01:39] <lemon-rev> lol, well no wonder your house burnt down you git
#222 [01:39] <wikkit> lol
#223 [01:39] <wikkit> i tried making a fountain!
#224 [01:39] <wikkit> lol
#225 [01:41] <wikkit> Talk to m
#226 [01:41] <wikkit> e
#227 [01:41] <wikkit> lo
#228 [01:41] <wikkit> lol
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#231 [01:43] <wikkit> Hello
#232 [01:43] <lemon-rev> ?
#233 [01:44] <wikkit> lol
#234 [01:44] <wikkit> find me a server
#235 [01:44] <wikkit> lol
#236 [01:44] <lemon-rev> hm, funny
#237 [01:44] <lemon-rev> ha ha
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#240 [01:44] <wikkit> lol
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#242 [01:44] <wikkit> Im Serial! lol
#243 [01:45] <lemon-rev> what your a code no one cares about ???
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#246 [01:45] <wikkit> lol
#247 [01:46] <wikkit> no its like Im Serious!
#248 [01:46] <wikkit> lol
#249 [01:46] <wikkit> its off south park
#250 [01:46] <wikkit> Im Super Serial!
#251 [01:46] <wikkit> lol
#252 [01:46] <lemon-rev> oh, i see, well in that case go back to 2d land :P
#253 [01:46] <wikkit> lol huh
#254 [01:46] <wikkit> no look
#255 [01:46] <wikkit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h05YfP_8UsU
#256 [01:47] <wikkit> lol
#257 [01:47] <lemon-rev> no ty
#258 [01:47] <wikkit> lol
#259 [01:47] <wikkit> Im super super serial
#260 [01:47] <wikkit> Manbear pig is in there
#261 [01:47] <wikkit> Do u think im super serial
#262 [01:47] <wikkit> lol
#263 [01:48] <wikkit> Party Pooper!
#264 [01:48] <wikkit> lol
#265 [01:48] <lemon-rev> i dont care for super serial
#266 [01:48] <lemon-rev> well you keep partying then
#267 [01:48] <wikkit> lol
#268 [01:48] <wikkit> u play Call of duty?
#269 [01:48] <lemon-rev> nope
#270 [01:48] <lemon-rev> and do i care for it
#271 [01:48] <lemon-rev> no
#272 [01:48] <wikkit> lol
#273 [01:48] <wikkit> u play minecraft
#274 [01:49] <lemon-rev> thats why im here
#275 [01:49] <lemon-rev> lol
#276 [01:49] <lemon-rev> playing it right now
#277 [01:49] <wikkit> i thought u were Here to help!
#278 [01:49] <wikkit> lol
#279 [01:50] <lemon-rev> hum, i can be but its not like i care for doing your dirty work for you
#280 [01:50] <lemon-rev> like
#281 [01:50] <lemon-rev> finding mc servers
#282 [01:50] <wikkit> lol i cant find any tho
#283 [01:51] <lemon-rev> well you can either make your own and put your ip down here so people will join it
#284 [01:51] <lemon-rev> or hope someone will invite you
#285 [01:51] <wikkit> lol
#286 [01:52] <wikkit> lol dont u just laugh when people say No rules server But one rule no hacking HEHEHE
#287 [01:52] <lemon-rev> well i think youll find its a outstanding rule
#288 [01:53] <lemon-rev> appart from those who well grab it from those idots who cant buy it online
#289 [01:53] <wikkit> lol yea
#290 [01:53] <lemon-rev> and put up links and videos on how to get new versions online
#291 [01:53] <wikkit> Do u like me lol
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#293 [01:53] <lemon-rev> i dont know why ask such a silly question ?
#294 [01:53] <wikkit> lol
#295 [01:54] <wikkit> well ty
#296 [01:54] <wikkit> hey
#297 [01:54] <lemon-rev> np
#298 [01:54] <lemon-rev> and yea ?
#299 [01:54] <wikkit> do u want to make a server together? just me and you?
#300 [01:55] <lemon-rev> well i dont really mind about setting up sever just that, id have to save the present online one and get mc to create a brand new one
#301 [01:55] <lemon-rev> cause atm me and a friend are making one on a map so yea
#302 [01:56] <wikkit> can i join with u?
#303 [01:56] <wikkit> i wont be a wanker
#304 [01:56] <lemon-rev> thats not what i ment
#305 [01:56] <lemon-rev> its that when you make a server
#306 [01:56] <lemon-rev> mc auto makes a new world for that one server
#307 [01:56] <wikkit> yeah
#308 [01:56] <lemon-rev> so everytime you recreate that server you only get that one world
#309 [01:57] <wikkit> i know how to swap the maps for offline to online
#310 [01:57] <wikkit> so the offline world your working on now i can put that online
#311 [01:57] <lemon-rev> lol now i goto find mc offline map
#312 [01:57] <lemon-rev> or should i say online map
#313 [01:57] <wikkit> lol
#314 [01:58] <wikkit> yeah copy the world in offline
#315 [01:58] <wikkit> Delete the one in Online then Replace it with the world in offline
#316 [01:58] <wikkit> make sure u go in the settings and change watever the name is called on mC offline to the one online
#317 [01:58] <lemon-rev> backing it up
#318 [01:59] <wikkit> kk
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#320 [02:00] <wikkit> Done
#321 [02:00] <wikkit> ?
#322 [02:00] <lemon-rev> hangon
#323 [02:00] <lemon-rev> trying to see if i can get it to run
#324 [02:01] <lemon-rev> 61.69.0.28
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#326 [02:01] <wikkit> kk gimme ip when u want me on
#327 [02:01] <lemon-rev> thats ip
#328 [02:02] <lemon-rev> go for it
#329 [02:02] <wikkit> logging in
#330 [02:02] <wikkit> im on
#331 [02:02] <lemon-rev> i see you
#332 [02:03] <wikkit> brb 1sec
#333 [02:04] <wikkit> bak
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#344 [02:32] <ahy> any one here use no-ip to allow people to connect to their servers?
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#350 [02:37] <lemon-rev> wikkit
#351 [02:37] <Cool_guy_mike> hey guys
#352 [02:37] <Cool_guy_mike> is there anything to do in this game besides kill pigs?
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#354 [02:37] <lemon-rev> yea dig , get more better tools
#355 [02:37] <lemon-rev> cook
#356 [02:37] <lemon-rev> destry trees regrow them
#357 [02:37] <lemon-rev> make armor
#358 [02:37] <lemon-rev> all kinds of stuff
#359 [02:37] <Cool_guy_mike> is there any way to improve the graphics?
#360 [02:38] <lemon-rev> lol
#361 [02:38] <Cool_guy_mike> its a good game and all but halo reachs graphics are way better
#362 [02:38] <CruelNoise> XD
#363 [02:38] <lemon-rev> fuck that, lol the graphics are as they are they arent ment to be good lol
#364 [02:38] <CruelNoise> no shit
#365 [02:38] <Cool_guy_mike> just wondering if i could make them that good
#366 [02:38] <CruelNoise> go find an HD texture pack or whatever.
#367 [02:38] <lemon-rev> hum, possible
#368 [02:38] <CruelNoise> you can't change the models
#369 [02:38] <CruelNoise> everything is going to be squares
#370 [02:38] <Cool_guy_mike> can i make a gun?
#371 [02:39] <CruelNoise> but it'll have higher rez tex packs
#372 [02:39] <CruelNoise> Cool_guy_mike: no
#373 [02:39] <CruelNoise> make a bow and arrow
#374 [02:39] <Cool_guy_mike> can i only use it for killing pigs?
#375 [02:39] <CruelNoise> and any other mob
#376 [02:39] <lemon-rev> no you can kill other things like spiders
#377 [02:39] <lemon-rev> undead
#378 [02:39] <Cool_guy_mike> i havent seen anything but pigs
#379 [02:40] <Cool_guy_mike> where can i find those things
#380 [02:40] <lemon-rev> at night time
#381 [02:40] <lemon-rev> lol
#382 [02:40] <CruelNoise> dude
#383 [02:40] <CruelNoise> you should have seen cows and chickens
#384 [02:40] <CruelNoise> at least
#385 [02:40] <Cool_guy_mike> idk maybe its the map that was rendered for me
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#387 [02:40] <Cool_guy_mike> that only had pigs
#388 [02:41] <CruelNoise> check your difficulty level
#389 [02:41] <Cool_guy_mike> k hang on
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#391 [02:41] <Cool_guy_mike> it's on "peaceful"
#392 [02:41] <Cool_guy_mike> i assume thats my problem?
#393 [02:42] <lemon-rev> most likely
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#397 [02:44] <Cool_guy_mike> i heard an explosion and i turned around and everything behind me was blown up
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#622 [02:52] <Cool_guy_mike> so how do i get to the next level or whatever in this
#623 [02:52] <Cool_guy_mike> like whats my mission
#624 [02:53] <mudpit> Anyone here use port forwarding to run a public server?
#625 [02:53] <ConMan8> Everyone restart your problem
#626 [02:53] <wikkit> hey
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#628 [02:53] <wikkit> anyone know any cool mc beta servers lol
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#630 [02:54] <lemon-rev> cool guy mike to do what it is that you can do
#631 [02:54] <lemon-rev> make tools start building buildings
#632 [02:54] <lemon-rev> start minding
#633 [02:54] <lemon-rev> start making waterfalls start watching youtube lol
#634 [02:54] <peru> mining
#635 [02:54] <lemon-rev> mineing
#636 [02:54] <Cool_guy_mike> this game sucks
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#638 [02:55] <Cool_guy_mike> im gonna go play call of duty
#639 [02:55] <lemon-rev> lol
#640 [02:55] <peru> mining http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mine
#641 [02:55] <lemon-rev> you have
#642 [02:55] <Cool_guy_mike> any way to get a refund
#643 [02:55] <lemon-rev> no
#644 [02:55] <ConMan8> Cool_guy_mike: Why do you say it sucks?
#645 [02:55] <lemon-rev> real imagination then mike
#646 [02:55] <Cool_guy_mike> there is nothing to do
#647 [02:55] <lemon-rev> :(
#648 [02:55] <lemon-rev> you make the game wha you will of it
#649 [02:55] <Cool_guy_mike> all you can do is kill sheep
#650 [02:55] <lemon-rev> no
#651 [02:55] <ConMan8> Cool_guy_mike: Watch a let's play, you can do whatever you want in Minecraft
#652 [02:55] <lemon-rev> you can plant you can mine trees
#653 [02:55] <Cool_guy_mike> even if you build something really cool
#654 [02:55] <Cool_guy_mike> what is the point of it
#655 [02:55] <peru> go watch X's adventures in minecraft on youtube
#656 [02:55] <ConMan8> There is no point, it's a sandbox game
#657 [02:55] <lemon-rev> the point is that you built it
#658 [02:56] <Cool_guy_mike> so is grand theft auto
#659 [02:56] <ConMan8> You should know that if you paid for it
#660 [02:56] <Cool_guy_mike> but there is an objective
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#663 [02:56] <Cool_guy_mike> do you guys agree that call of duty is better?
#664 [02:57] <peru> you also have objective here: SURVIVE!
#665 [02:57] <wikkit> WAIT
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#668 [02:57] <ConMan8> No, Call of Duty sucks
#669 [02:57] <Cool_guy_mike> yeah but surviving is easy
#670 [02:57] <ConMan8> You can make your own objective
#671 [02:57] <Cool_guy_mike> all you have to do is dig a hole in the ground
#672 [02:57] <Cool_guy_mike> and cover yourself
#673 [02:57] <peru> call of duty is $#@!@^%
#674 [02:57] <ConMan8> Put it in hard and go to the nether?
#675 [02:58] <Cool_guy_mike> how does call of duty suck
#676 [02:58] <Cool_guy_mike> you get kill streaks
#677 [02:58] <ConMan8> Maybe actually go looking for a challenge
#678 [02:58] <Cool_guy_mike> and upgradable guns
#679 [02:58] <CruelNoise> ^
#680 [02:58] <CruelNoise> why it sucks
#681 [02:59] <Cool_guy_mike> haha call of duty rocks
#682 [02:59] <Cool_guy_mike> at least there is a point
#683 [02:59] <CruelNoise> uh, yeah, sure
#684 [02:59] <Cool_guy_mike> this is like legos
#685 [02:59] <CruelNoise> "Kill everything in sight"
#686 [02:59] <Cool_guy_mike> except its not even real
#687 [02:59] <ConMan8> Cool_guy_mike: How do you know you're real?
#688 [02:59] <ConMan8> >:P
#689 [02:59] <feenyx> everyone knows legos is the most awesomest toy ever
#690 [03:00] <CruelNoise> exactly
#691 [03:00] * HydroHydro is now known as ChuckNorris
#692 [03:00] <Count|net> lego doesn't have green exploding dicks though
#693 [03:00] <ConMan8> They're called "LEGO bricks"
#694 [03:00] <CruelNoise> look, if minecraft isn't your kind of game, don't play it.
#695 [03:00] <CruelNoise> And DON'T whine to us.
#696 [03:00] <Cool_guy_mike> do you think the community would shun me if i created a penis texture pack
#697 [03:00] * ChuckNorris is now known as HydroHydro
#698 [03:00] <feenyx> Count|net: it does not, luckily
#699 [03:00] <Cool_guy_mike> all mobs are penises and stuff
#700 [03:00] <Count|net> just turn off all except creepers
#701 [03:00] <Count|net> problem solved!
#702 [03:00] <ConMan8> I don't think anyone would use that
#703 [03:01] <Count|net> angry women might
#704 [03:01] <Count|net> TAKE THAT
#705 [03:01] <CruelNoise> Someone's already done that.
#706 [03:01] <Count|net> DIE YOU FILTHY DICK
#707 [03:01] <CruelNoise> He is very popular.
#708 [03:01] <Count|net> etc
#709 [03:01] <Cool_guy_mike> really cruel?
#710 [03:01] <Cool_guy_mike> can i get a link?
#711 [03:01] <Cool_guy_mike> maybe it will make the game suck less
#712 [03:01] <Cool_guy_mike> being attack by giant penises
#713 [03:01] <Cool_guy_mike> attacked-(
#714 [03:02] <wikkit> ANY GOOD SERVERS?
#715 [03:02] <CruelNoise> Silly creepers are already penises.
#716 [03:02] <CruelNoise> wikkit: ask in #smp
#717 [03:02] <feenyx> The game does not suck simply because you do not enjoy it
#718 [03:02] <feenyx> there's a couple hundred thousand users that beg to differ
#719 [03:03] <Cool_guy_mike> i can understand how it could appeal to autistic people or something i guess
#720 [03:03] <Cool_guy_mike> or people who really like legos
#721 [03:03] <Cool_guy_mike> or cant afford call of duty
#722 [03:03] <Cool_guy_mike> or halo
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#724 [03:04] <CruelNoise> dude
#725 [03:04] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: if you want to be an sterotyping idiot, go ahead
#726 [03:04] <CruelNoise> just fuck off.
#727 [03:04] <xales> just leave, dont complain
#728 [03:04] <xales> like a stupid CoD fag
#729 [03:04] <xales> :P
#730 [03:04] <Cool_guy_mike> sorry guys i didnt mean to make you upset
#731 [03:04] <xales> we are only "upset" because you are wasting our time
#732 [03:04] <CruelNoise> there's no reason for you to be here. scram.
#733 [03:05] <Cool_guy_mike> dont be like that please
#734 [03:05] <Cool_guy_mike> im trying to like it
#735 [03:05] <xales> also, this is the minecraft help channel
#736 [03:05] <xales> if you want help
#737 [03:05] <xales> ask for help
#738 [03:05] <xales> otherwise go to #minecraft
#739 [03:05] <Cool_guy_mike> okay i need help making this game fun
#740 [03:05] <xales> build something
#741 [03:05] <xales> play on hard
#742 [03:05] <xales> etc
#743 [03:05] <Cool_guy_mike> or i need help getting my money back
#744 [03:06] <peru> how did you become interested in buying this game in the first place?
#745 [03:06] <Cool_guy_mike> saw people on facebook mention it a few times
#746 [03:07] <peru> you do that with every game you hear good things about on facebook?
#747 [03:07] <CruelNoise> you can't get your money back...
#748 [03:07] <Cool_guy_mike> ...
#749 [03:07] <CruelNoise> You buy a game, you've bought it.
#750 [03:07] <Cool_guy_mike> are you serious?
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#752 [03:07] <Cool_guy_mike> i paid 20 fucking dollars for this
#753 [03:07] <Cool_guy_mike> and i cant get my money back
#754 [03:07] <CruelNoise> idk
#755 [03:07] <CruelNoise> you might be able to.
#756 [03:08] <CruelNoise> Look around on minecraft.net
#757 [03:08] <CruelNoise> in the support section or whatever,
#758 [03:08] <Cool_guy_mike> i will fly to sweden and personally ask that fat dude who made this for my money back
#759 [03:08] <peru> that flight will cost more than 20$
#760 [03:08] <Cool_guy_mike> maybe ill teach him how to make a fun game while im at it
#761 [03:09] <feenyx> You have an attitude problem
#762 [03:09] <Cool_guy_mike> no i just have a problem with bad games
#763 [03:09] <Cool_guy_mike> this game should be free in my opinion
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#765 [03:09] <Cool_guy_mike> the mini game in call of duty black ops where you are a little army man
#766 [03:09] <Cool_guy_mike> is funner than this
#767 [03:09] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: you can
#768 [03:09] <xales> :P
#769 [03:09] <Cool_guy_mike> how xales
#770 [03:10] <feenyx> it's not really up to the consumer to decide what should be free or not
#771 [03:10] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: I wont tell you
#772 [03:10] <CruelNoise> I actaully prefer zork to DOA
#773 [03:10] <feenyx> it's up to you to decide if its worth YOUR money, but that's a completely different matter
#774 [03:10] <CruelNoise> and they're both on the same terminal
#775 [03:10] <Cool_guy_mike> ill start selling shit sandwiches for $30
#776 [03:10] <Cool_guy_mike> im sure you guys will buy it
#777 [03:10] <Cool_guy_mike> if you bought minecraft
#778 [03:10] <feenyx> bildramer: you there?
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#780 [03:11] <wikkit> lol
#781 [03:11] <wikkit> making a new world
#782 [03:11] <xales> bildramer isnt an op here feenyx
#783 [03:11] <Cool_guy_mike> www.shitsandwiches.com
#784 [03:11] <Cool_guy_mike> buy some now
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#787 [03:11] <Cool_guy_mike> look guys
#788 [03:11] <Cool_guy_mike> im not trying to offend you
#789 [03:12] * ConMan8 sighs
#789 [03:12] <Cool_guy_mike> im just saying that this game is balls
#790 [03:12] <CruelNoise> really
#791 [03:12] <CruelNoise> you know what?
#792 [03:12] <Cool_guy_mike> there is literally NO POINT
#793 [03:12] <ConMan8> I recommend you shut up before you get into any more trouble
#794 [03:12] <CruelNoise> I've been playing this game and enjoying it for over a year now, but your compelling argument has made me see the light.
#795 [03:12] <Cool_guy_mike> im glad cruel
#796 [03:12] <CruelNoise> What the hell is the point of a game with no sense of progress?
#797 [03:13] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: I give you a 5 of 100 on trolling effort
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#799 [03:13] <xales> also, welcome to bannytown. population: you
#800 [03:13] <Cool_guy_mike> thats what im saying man
#801 [03:13] <Cool_guy_mike> im really trying to enjoy this game
#802 [03:13] <CruelNoise> What's with the ugly graphics? I'm sure it'd be easier for my video card if it didn't have act like it was ten years old.
#803 [03:13] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: I dont think you are
#804 [03:13] <Cool_guy_mike> yeah they are like doom graphics
#805 [03:14] <CruelNoise> No, they're fucking not.
#806 [03:14] <xales> I think your just like every other idiot 12 year old out there who <3 CoD
#807 [03:14] <CruelNoise> The textures have more detail than quake.
#808 [03:14] <CruelNoise> now Tits or GTFO.
#809 [03:14] <Cool_guy_mike> you know a game is bad when it's graphics are on par with a 20 year old game
#810 [03:14] <Cool_guy_mike> and the sad thing is
#811 [03:14] <Cool_guy_mike> that it lags
#812 [03:14] <Cool_guy_mike> horribly
#813 [03:14] <CruelNoise> ...
#814 [03:14] <Cool_guy_mike> the frame rate drops
#815 [03:14] <Cool_guy_mike> for no apparent reason on high end pcs
#816 [03:15] <CruelNoise> 1
#817 [03:15] <CruelNoise> quake nor doom are twenty years old.
#818 [03:15] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: congrats, you have a piece of shit computer
#819 [03:15] <CruelNoise> 2
#820 [03:15] <kontroll> GUYS
#821 [03:15] <kontroll> Stop feeding the troll.
#822 [03:15] <CruelNoise> a single player game does not lag, it has low FPS.
#823 [03:15] <xales> kontroll: its fun
#824 [03:15] <kontroll> This is what he wants.
#825 [03:15] <xales> :)
#826 [03:15] <Cool_guy_mike> i have a custom built pc with 8 gigs of ram
#827 [03:15] <kontroll> Just ignore him and he'll go away.
#828 [03:15] <CruelNoise> kontroll: it's what I want too.
#829 [03:15] <xales> we are having fu kontroll
#830 [03:15] <xales> fun*
#831 [03:15] <kontroll> Oh.
#832 [03:15] <Cool_guy_mike> quad core processor
#833 [03:15] <kontroll> Carry on then.
#834 [03:15] <kontroll> :)
#835 [03:15] <Cool_guy_mike> etc
#836 [03:15] <CruelNoise> Cool_guy_mike: ram isn't worth shit. nor is your number of cores.
#837 [03:16] <kontroll> I'm going to play some Minecrap now.
#838 [03:16] <CruelNoise> Minecraft is VERY processor heavy.
#839 [03:16] <Cool_guy_mike> yeah its not worth shit when the game is coded terribly
#840 [03:16] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: lets see you do better
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#842 [03:16] <xales> with art or with programming capability
#843 [03:16] <netherian> hey guys
#844 [03:16] <Cool_guy_mike> im sure i could if i wanted to steal from autistic kids
#845 [03:16] <CruelNoise> Says the guy couldn't wright a Hello World.
#846 [03:16] <CruelNoise> yo, netherian.
#847 [03:16] <Cool_guy_mike> thats not my style though
#848 [03:17] <netherian> haven't able to get on the past I don't even know how long =\
#849 [03:17] <netherian> like, ages
#850 [03:17] <netherian> 2 days?
#851 [03:17] <CruelNoise> yeah
#852 [03:17] <Cool_guy_mike> truthfully, how many of you have aspergers or some other form of high functioning autism?
#853 [03:17] <CruelNoise> Feels like months, doesn't it?
#854 [03:17] <ConMan8> Doesn't matter
#855 [03:17] <netherian> mmhmm
#856 [03:17] * CruelNoise feels it would be a good idea to inform all of #minecrafthelp of the usefulness of the /ignore command.
#856 [03:17] <CruelNoise> do it.
#857 [03:18] <ConMan8> right
#858 [03:18] <Cool_guy_mike> dont ignore me guys
#859 [03:18] <Cool_guy_mike> im just trying to get help understanding
#860 [03:18] <CruelNoise> You're making it difficult to help other people.
#861 [03:18] <Cool_guy_mike> thats all
#862 [03:18] * netherian feels obliged to congratulate CruelNoise for such a wonderful reminder.
#862 [03:18] <CruelNoise> And you're just being inflammatory.
#863 [03:18] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: why dont you try in #help then
#864 [03:18] <xales> there are more people in there who can help you
#865 [03:18] <Cool_guy_mike> alright cool
#866 [03:18] <Cool_guy_mike> thanks
#867 [03:18] <xales> sure
#868 [03:18] <CruelNoise> xales: #help is going to be angry.
#869 [03:19] <lemon-rev> lol
#870 [03:19] <xales> he is gonna get a GLine if he does this in there
#871 [03:19] <xales> LOL
#872 [03:19] <CruelNoise> =D
#873 [03:19] <xales> he is in #help btw
#874 [03:19] <Cool_guy_mike> that is an irc help room
#875 [03:19] <Cool_guy_mike> nice try pal
#876 [03:19] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: but they can help you with minecraft too
#877 [03:19] <xales> genius
#878 [03:19] <Cool_guy_mike> xales: he is gonna get a GLine if he does this in there
#879 [03:19] <CruelNoise> mike
#880 [03:19] <Cool_guy_mike> HURR
#881 [03:19] <CruelNoise> how are you so cool?
#882 [03:20] <Cool_guy_mike> 1. i dont have autism
#883 [03:20] <Cool_guy_mike> 2. i play expensive GOOD games
#884 [03:20] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: you make it sound like people who have autism choose to
#885 [03:20] * netherian away (if you can't stand the heat quit jumping in the lava)
#885 [03:20] <Curare> Huh. So, now that that is out of the way, anyone know how to fix gift code problems?
#886 [03:20] <CruelNoise> What you do have is a severe case of narssism.
#887 [03:20] <Cool_guy_mike> narcisism*
#888 [03:20] <CruelNoise> Curare: what sort of problems are you having?
#889 [03:20] <CruelNoise> Cool_guy_mike: thanks
#890 [03:20] <netherian> >..I prefer nihilism...
#891 [03:20] <Curare> I keep getting the "This code is invalid" bit when I try to redeem the code.
#892 [03:21] <xales> Curare: what problems?
#893 [03:21] <CruelNoise> netherian: but they're different -.-
#894 [03:21] <netherian> mmhm
#895 [03:21] <CruelNoise> Curare: you buy it through paypal?
#896 [03:21] <netherian> if they were the same
#897 [03:21] <xales> make sure to put it in all lowercase and with the -s
#898 [03:21] <netherian> how could I prefer one to the other?
#899 [03:21] <netherian> I'm jus' saying
#900 [03:21] <Cool_guy_mike> lollll yet another fail by fat man notch
#901 [03:21] <netherian> I prefer nihilism
#902 [03:21] <xales> ****-****-****-****
#903 [03:21] <netherian> quit cussing >:O
#904 [03:21] <Curare> How long are codes supposed to be?
#905 [03:22] <Curare> Mine is 12 digits, if I remember correctly.
#906 [03:22] <xales> Curare: I think 4 sets of 4
#907 [03:22] <Curare> For beta? Because mine is an alpha code.
#908 [03:22] <xales> no, for alpha
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#910 [03:23] <Curare> That's odd.
#911 [03:23] <CruelNoise> Curare: again, did you buy it through paypal?
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#913 [03:23] <Curare> It was a gift code.
#914 [03:23] <CruelNoise> oh
#915 [03:23] <CruelNoise> nevermind
#916 [03:23] <Curare> Are those supposed to be twelve or sixteen digits?
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#918 [03:24] <xales> im fairly sure 3 or 4 sets of 4
#919 [03:24] <xales> Curare: its possible you got a code that was bruteforced and used already
#920 [03:24] <xales> email payments@mojang.com
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#922 [03:24] <Curare> Has that been happening recently?
#923 [03:25] <xales> Curare: not to my knowledge
#924 [03:25] <Curare> I've seen a couple other people on the forums with the same problem.
#925 [03:25] <CruelNoise> well, people are going to do that sort of thing.
#926 [03:25] <CruelNoise> but yeah, email Mojang.
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#929 [03:25] <Curare> Sounds good.
#930 [03:25] <Curare> Thanks.
#931 [03:26] <ConMan8> it's payment@mojang.com
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#934 [03:27] <kakoskatharouian> darn bad net
#935 [03:27] <ConMan8> woah
#936 [03:27] <ConMan8> A fourth nick
#937 [03:27] <kakoskatharouian> ?
#938 [03:27] <xales> ?
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#940 [03:27] <ConMan8> er
#941 [03:27] <kakoskatharouian> I make fourth nicks sometimes
#942 [03:27] <ConMan8> another nick
#943 [03:27] <kakoskatharouian> I just got a wave of bad net
#944 [03:27] <Curare> I've already sent an email to support@mojang.com. Is my lack of a response due to my mailing the wrong people, then?
#945 [03:28] <kakoskatharouian> but don' matter, all my fourth nicks tend to mean something
#946 [03:28] <kakoskatharouian> ...don'... I fail.
#947 [03:28] <ConMan8> probably just been missed, Curare
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#949 [03:28] <ConMan8> The matter is a don
#950 [03:28] <xales> ConMan8: how long ago?
#951 [03:29] <CruelNoise> Curare: when did you email support?
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#953 [03:30] <the_late_man> what the- did I snap my net thing or something?
#954 [03:30] <Curare> This Tuesday.
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#956 [03:31] <BadNetMan> I give up.
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#958 [03:31] <CruelNoise> BadNetMan: cool
#959 [03:31] <xales> Curare: send another email
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#964 [03:33] <pending> I am not leaving so as to not spam this place
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#967 [03:33] <ConMan8> lol
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#969 [03:35] <kontroll> Mm, joined a friend's server.
#970 [03:35] <kontroll> He's asleep.
#971 [03:35] <kontroll> I'm going to hollow out a mountain and leave him confused to hell when he starts digging.
#972 [03:35] <xales> lol
#973 [03:36] <Curare> So, Xales, should I just reiterate the message every 1-2 days, or cut off at some point?
#974 [03:36] <xales> Curare: send him a message on Twitter too
#975 [03:36] <xales> he seems to read those a lot
#976 [03:36] <xales> lol
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#978 [03:41] <Curare> Uh, I've never used Twitter before. Now that I've registered, wat do?
#979 [03:41] <xales> Tweet something
#980 [03:41] <xales> but
#981 [03:41] <xales> put @notch before it
#982 [03:42] <CruelNoise> and the message will show up on his feed
#983 [03:42] <xales> yes
#984 [03:42] <ConMan8> every tweet you make must begin with @notch
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#986 [03:44] <CruelNoise> even if it's totally not related to minecraft
#987 [03:44] <CruelNoise> @notch I am eating pizza!
#988 [03:44] <Cool_guy_mike> alright im back
#989 [03:44] <Cool_guy_mike> just played for about 30 minutes
#990 [03:44] <Cool_guy_mike> still sucks
#991 [03:44] <Cool_guy_mike> how do i get my money back
#992 [03:45] <CruelNoise> I told you
#993 [03:45] <CruelNoise> look on the support section of the site.
#994 [03:45] <Cool_guy_mike> i did
#995 [03:45] <Cool_guy_mike> no luc,
#996 [03:45] <Cool_guy_mike> luck
#997 [03:45] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: then you must be too stupid to read. congratulations
#998 [03:46] <Cool_guy_mike> it says i can request a refund within a week of purchasing it
#999 [03:46] <Cool_guy_mike> but i bought it last week
#1000 [03:46] <Cool_guy_mike> and just started playing now
#1001 [03:47] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: too fucking bad
#1002 [03:47] <xales> I dont feel sorry for you
#1003 [03:48] <peru> me neither
#1004 [03:48] <Cool_guy_mike> im gonna boycott
#1005 [03:48] <xales> good luck with that
#1006 [03:48] <xales> an army of 800,000 autistic people will rape you to death
#1007 [03:49] <xales> autistic people who love 20 year old graphics that is
#1008 [03:50] <feenyx> don't hate, you might just invoke the wrath of 4chan
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#1011 [03:51] <CruelNoise> yes
#1012 [03:51] <CruelNoise> I'm going to make /b/ come in ehre
#1013 [03:52] <xales> feenyx: I have. i got over it
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#1016 [03:53] <kontroll> Is it morally right for me to knock down a tiny hole in a friend's house, set on a hillside, and establish my own little cave in there?
#1017 [03:53] <kontroll> Well... cavern, really.
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#1021 [03:54] <peru> yes if that friend is your girlfriend's ex
#1022 [03:54] <kontroll> Oh, he's not.
#1023 [03:54] <kontroll> ;D
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#1028 [04:01] <Iniour> Hi I bought minecraft and got my code, but where can I add it?
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#1030 [04:01] <xales> Iniour: http://minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#1031 [04:01] <xales> when you buy it, it just activates. unless you have a gift code
#1032 [04:01] <Iniour> thanks
#1033 [04:02] <Iniour> ok I works
#1034 [04:02] <Iniour> it
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#1038 [04:04] <Cool_guy_mike> sup guys
#1039 [04:05] <Cool_guy_mike> im back
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#1041 [04:08] <Cool_guy_mike> anyone here to help
#1042 [04:08] <Cool_guy_mike> ?
#1043 [04:13] <Smiley> nein
#1044 [04:13] <Smiley> :D
#1045 [04:13] <Smiley> whats up?
#1046 [04:14] <CruelNoise> not much!
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#1049 [04:22] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: hi there
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#1052 [04:26] <Dakafall> Evening everyone
#1053 [04:27] <xales> hello Dakafall
#1054 [04:27] <Dakafall> Lol, just got Minecraft and have been unable to stop playing except for work.
#1055 [04:27] <CruelNoise> hi
#1056 [04:27] <CruelNoise> lol
#1057 [04:27] <CruelNoise> we've had a guy with the opposite problem p.p
#1058 [04:28] <xales> Dakafall: if you ever need help stopping, I find that TNT+your work = help stopping
#1059 [04:28] <xales> just blow up what you spend 2 hours making, you wont want to play after doing that
#1060 [04:28] <xales> :D
#1061 [04:28] <Dakafall> Haha! But then I would cry inside
#1062 [04:28] <Dakafall> Was going to mess around with my multiplayer server, but they have yet to update it
#1063 [04:29] <xales> update the server software?
#1064 [04:29] <Dakafall> Yea
#1065 [04:30] <xales> it is updated
#1066 [04:30] <xales> it just doesnt say so on the site
#1067 [04:30] <Dakafall> I mean for my server host
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#1069 [04:30] <Dakafall> Minecraft itself has updated
#1070 [04:31] <xales> oh
#1071 [04:31] <xales> ok
#1072 [04:33] <Dakafall> Is there anyway to change your spawn point? I built my start fortress, but I kind of want to go run around and find a new place
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#1074 [04:33] <xales> in single player?
#1075 [04:33] <xales> there are ways, yes
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#1077 [04:33] <xales> look for map editors
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#1079 [04:34] <xales> some of those let you do it
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#1081 [04:34] <Dakafall> That was weird
#1082 [04:34] <Dakafall> Did I ask the wrong question ? :(
#1083 [04:35] <xales> Dakafall: what?
#1084 [04:35] <xales> oh
#1085 [04:35] <xales> your client exploded
#1086 [04:35] <xales> dont use Mibbit
#1087 [04:35] <xales> its garbage
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#1092 [04:41] <Cool_guy_mike> dakafall
#1093 [04:42] <Cool_guy_mike> mind telling me your secret
#1094 [04:42] <Cool_guy_mike> as to how to have fun in this giant crap fest
#1095 [04:42] <Cool_guy_mike> referred to as minecraft
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#1097 [04:45] <hello> is anyone else getting the "Illegal characters in chat" problem?
#1098 [04:45] <Cool_guy_mike> guys what can you do in this game besides kill cucumber men
#1099 [04:45] <CruelNoise> I would assume that you're trying to use illegal characters in chat.
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#1101 [04:46] <CruelNoise> If I remember correctly, minecraft can't use anything but the basic alphanumerics, symbols such as /?;['][ etc
#1102 [04:46] <CruelNoise> so, no accented letters
#1103 [04:46] <CruelNoise> no special characters etc.
#1104 [04:46] <hello> i'm only using characters, thanks though!
#1105 [04:46] <CruelNoise> sorry
#1106 [04:47] <hello> i think this person filed a bug report
#1107 [04:47] <hello> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/illegal_characters_in_chat
#1108 [04:47] <hello> i updated the server files, but it's still giving me problems
#1109 [04:47] <Cool_guy_mike> lol notch has made over 6 million dollars
#1110 [04:47] <Cool_guy_mike> and the development speed is a joke
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#1112 [04:48] <CruelNoise> you're kidding me.
#1113 [04:48] <Cool_guy_mike> i was just reading that there used to be secret friday updates
#1114 [04:48] <Cool_guy_mike> which are now nonexistent
#1115 [04:48] <Cool_guy_mike> all we're doing is supporting notchs eating habit
#1116 [04:48] <CruelNoise> Because we're now in beta.
#1117 [04:48] <CruelNoise> dude
#1118 [04:49] <CruelNoise> what the fuck is wrong with you?
#1119 [04:49] <Cool_guy_mike> while he puts in 2 lines of code dailyh
#1120 [04:49] <Cool_guy_mike> daily
#1121 [04:49] <CruelNoise> how often dos CoD get updates?
#1122 [04:49] <Cool_guy_mike> its a full game.
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#1124 [04:49] <CruelNoise> So is minecraft. Minecraft just isn't finished yet.
#1125 [04:49] <Cool_guy_mike> we are talking a 6 gb game
#1126 [04:49] <Cool_guy_mike> as opposed to a game written in java
#1127 [04:49] <CruelNoise> because that totally makes a difference.
#1128 [04:50] <Cool_guy_mike> all im saying
#1129 [04:50] <Cool_guy_mike> is that notch wakes up laughing everymorning
#1130 [04:50] <Cool_guy_mike> in a bed full of money
#1131 [04:50] <Cool_guy_mike> thinking about how stupid his user base is
#1132 [04:51] <Cool_guy_mike> and how hes getting rewarded for doing nothing
#1133 [04:51] <hello> Let's see you write a game that can make 6 million.
#1134 [04:51] <CruelNoise> The last few updates have all substantially changed the game's base engine. PLUS he's had to deal with all the legal sides of starting a company, PLUS employing seven+ individuals
#1135 [04:51] <Cool_guy_mike> ill have to find a game that appeals to autistic kids more than minecraft
#1136 [04:51] <Cool_guy_mike> which i doubt is possible
#1137 [04:51] <CruelNoise> It's amiracle that he can get any updates out at all.
#1138 [04:52] <hello> i think this guy's just a troll lol
#1139 [04:52] <Cool_guy_mike> how you guys can be entertained building meaningless castles
#1140 [04:52] <Cool_guy_mike> and slaying cucumber men
#1141 [04:52] <Cool_guy_mike> is beyond me
#1142 [04:52] <CruelNoise> Look
#1143 [04:52] <CruelNoise> If it doesn't appeal to you, it doesn't.
#1144 [04:52] <CruelNoise> Live with it.
#1145 [04:53] <CruelNoise> If you're angry you wasted money, tough luck.
#1146 [04:53] <Cool_guy_mike> is there some way to give myself aspergers
#1147 [04:53] <CruelNoise> Perhaps you could give your account to a friend.
#1148 [04:53] <Cool_guy_mike> so i can be like you guys
#1149 [04:53] <Cool_guy_mike> and enjoy it
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#1151 [04:53] <CruelNoise> Can you give me chronic idiot? So I can think on your level?
#1152 [04:53] <Cool_guy_mike> i dont have any autistic friends :[
#1153 [04:53] <CruelNoise> you said you heard about the game on facebook.
#1154 [04:54] <Cool_guy_mike> facebook friends are not equal to real friends
#1155 [04:54] <Cool_guy_mike> i have my girlfriends autistic brother on there
#1156 [04:54] <Cool_guy_mike> hes the one who talked about it
#1157 [04:54] <Cool_guy_mike> and he already has it
#1158 [04:54] <CruelNoise> Look, deal with this shit yourself.
#1159 [04:54] <CruelNoise> just stop wasting my autistic time.
#1160 [04:55] <Cool_guy_mike> dude
#1161 [04:55] <Cool_guy_mike> can you give me some tips to make this game more like call of duty
#1162 [04:55] <Cool_guy_mike> or something
#1163 [04:55] <CruelNoise> the game is what it is.
#1164 [04:55] <Cool_guy_mike> slaying cucumber men isnt fun to me
#1165 [04:55] <Cool_guy_mike> maybe if i could shoot them with guns
#1166 [04:55] <CruelNoise> You can't make it more or less like anything else.
#1167 [04:55] <Cool_guy_mike> and guts and blood come out
#1168 [04:55] <Cool_guy_mike> it would be better
#1169 [04:55] <CruelNoise> It wouldn't
#1170 [04:55] <Cool_guy_mike> whats the point of having gun powder without guns
#1171 [04:56] <Cool_guy_mike> notch works ass backwards
#1172 [04:56] <Cool_guy_mike> tnt was invented LONG after guns
#1173 [04:56] <CruelNoise> uh
#1174 [04:56] <CruelNoise> this isn't real life, you know.
#1175 [04:57] <CruelNoise> It's a game.
#1176 [04:57] <Cool_guy_mike> a stupid one
#1177 [04:57] <Cool_guy_mike> call of duty is realistic
#1178 [04:57] <Cool_guy_mike> at least
#1179 [04:57] <Cool_guy_mike> based on REAL guns
#1180 [04:57] <CruelNoise> Minecraft isn't.
#1181 [04:57] <CruelNoise> If you dislike minecraft so much
#1182 [04:57] <CruelNoise> go play CoD.
#1183 [04:57] <Cool_guy_mike> i want my money back
#1184 [04:57] <Cool_guy_mike> so i can buy the new map pack coming out
#1185 [04:57] <Cool_guy_mike> for call of duty
#1186 [04:57] <Cool_guy_mike> help me get my money back!
#1187 [04:57] <CruelNoise> nobody gives a shit.
#1188 [04:58] <Cool_guy_mike> if you paypal me my 15 bucks
#1189 [04:58] <Cool_guy_mike> ill leave
#1190 [04:58] <CruelNoise> go play CoD, or if you want a real man's game, grab some Counter-Strike.
#1191 [04:58] <Cool_guy_mike> we have a deal?
#1192 [04:59] <CruelNoise> no
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#1194 [04:59] <CruelNoise> why the fuck would I give you money?
#1195 [05:00] <Cool_guy_mike> because i dont like minecraft
#1196 [05:00] <Cool_guy_mike> it sucks
#1197 [05:00] <CruelNoise> I don't like CoD, pay me sixty dollars.
#1198 [05:00] <Cool_guy_mike> did you buy it?
#1199 [05:00] <CruelNoise> yes.
#1200 [05:00] <Cool_guy_mike> at least you can take call of duty back to wal mart
#1201 [05:01] <CruelNoise> I bought it on steam.
#1202 [05:01] <CruelNoise> whoops
#1203 [05:01] <Cool_guy_mike> or wherever you got it
#1204 [05:01] <Cool_guy_mike> steam has a refund policy
#1205 [05:01] <CruelNoise> yeah
#1206 [05:01] <CruelNoise> it's run out
#1207 [05:01] <CruelNoise> It's for a limited time, just like minecraft.
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#1209 [05:01] <CruelNoise> I don't like call of duty
#1210 [05:01] <CruelNoise> It's crappy
#1211 [05:02] <Cool_guy_mike> did you know that the humble indie bundle guys approached notch
#1212 [05:02] <Cool_guy_mike> for putting minecraft in
#1213 [05:02] <Cool_guy_mike> and notch laughed in their faces
#1214 [05:02] <Cool_guy_mike> and later donated 2 grand
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#1216 [05:02] <CruelNoise> yeah?
#1217 [05:02] <Cool_guy_mike> thinking it would make up for his rudeness
#1218 [05:02] <CruelNoise> your point?
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#1220 [05:02] <Cool_guy_mike> my point is that notch is money hungry
#1221 [05:03] <Cool_guy_mike> and isnt putting forth the effort to get this game out of beta
#1222 [05:03] <Cool_guy_mike> he should sell it to a major developer
#1223 [05:03] <Cool_guy_mike> like infinity ward
#1224 [05:03] <Cool_guy_mike> and the final version would be out in like 2 weeks
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#1226 [05:04] <Cool_guy_mike> you have a server you want to meet up in
#1227 [05:04] <Cool_guy_mike> so i can kick your ass in a sword duel
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#1229 [05:08] <peru> omg i did shopping, came back... and youre still spreading your poison
#1230 [05:08] <Cool_guy_mike> dude
#1231 [05:08] <Cool_guy_mike> i watched those videos you told me to
#1232 [05:08] <Cool_guy_mike> ...
#1233 [05:08] <Cool_guy_mike> they sucked!
#1234 [05:08] <Cool_guy_mike> the dudes voice made my ears bleed
#1235 [05:08] <peru> you get paid to do this or what
#1236 [05:08] <CruelNoise> just /ignore him
#1237 [05:08] <CruelNoise> I did.
#1238 [05:09] <Cool_guy_mike> dont peru
#1239 [05:09] <Cool_guy_mike> i want to talk to you
#1240 [05:09] <peru> lol im nobody, why would you want to talk to me
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#1242 [05:10] <peru> i bet 5$ he'll come back under different nickname
#1243 [05:10] <feenyx> just pay attention to hostnames
#1244 [05:10] <peru> ok
#1245 [05:11] <CruelNoise> I'm asking for OP in here so i can get rid of degenerate slime like him =P
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#1247 [05:11] <Cool_guy_mike> GUISE
#1248 [05:11] <Cool_guy_mike> GUISE
#1249 [05:11] <feenyx> I normally would never ask for it, but I seem to be more active
#1250 [05:11] <Cool_guy_mike> GUISE
#1251 [05:11] <Cool_guy_mike> MINECRAFT SUCKS LOL
#1252 [05:12] <feenyx> your mother must be proud to have raised such an ass
#1253 [05:12] <feenyx> please go away
#1254 [05:12] <Cool_guy_mike> no
#1255 [05:12] <Cool_guy_mike> not til somebody gives me my 15 bucks back
#1256 [05:12] <Cool_guy_mike> im pissed
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#1258 [05:12] <feenyx> payment@mojang.com
#1259 [05:12] <feenyx> email them
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#1261 [05:12] <Cool_guy_mike> tried
#1262 [05:12] <Cool_guy_mike> i was informed that i had to have made my claim within a week of buying it
#1263 [05:12] <feenyx> nobody here works for Mojang
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#1265 [05:13] <Cool_guy_mike> idc
#1266 [05:13] <Cool_guy_mike> you guys are the user base
#1267 [05:13] <feenyx> well did you make your claim within a week of buying it?
#1268 [05:13] <Cool_guy_mike> if you want to pad notchs pockets feel free to pad mine as well
#1269 [05:13] <Cool_guy_mike> all i want is my money back
#1270 [05:13] <feenyx> did you make your claim within a week of buying it?
#1271 [05:13] <Cool_guy_mike> nope
#1272 [05:13] <feenyx> well tough luck, son
#1273 [05:13] <Cool_guy_mike> i bought it a week ago
#1274 [05:13] <Cool_guy_mike> and started playing it today
#1275 [05:13] <xales> too fucking bad
#1276 [05:13] <Cool_guy_mike> and it may very well be the worst game
#1277 [05:13] <feenyx> and that's their fault?
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#1279 [05:13] <Cool_guy_mike> ive ever played
#1280 [05:13] <Cool_guy_mike> in my life
#1281 [05:13] <feenyx> grow up
#1282 [05:13] <xales> nobody feels sorry for you
#1283 [05:13] <xales> grow up, immature child
#1284 [05:14] <Cool_guy_mike> i could have bought somebody a christmas present
#1285 [05:14] <xales> you sound about 12 years
#1286 [05:14] <xales> old
#1287 [05:14] <feenyx> how could you have bought it, you're obviously 12
#1288 [05:14] <Cool_guy_mike> instead of being stuck with this piece of shit
#1289 [05:14] <Visiiri> "WHAT? I HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS FOOD?!"
#1290 [05:14] <Cool_guy_mike> im 18
#1291 [05:14] <Cool_guy_mike> you cretin
#1292 [05:14] <feenyx> I have a hard time believing that
#1293 [05:14] <feenyx> you certainly don't act it
#1294 [05:14] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, go play CoD then, faggot.
#1295 [05:14] <CruelNoise> I'm a six year old autistic. I like legos and Minecraft.
#1296 [05:14] <Cool_guy_mike> thats because you aspies dont understand
#1297 [05:14] <CruelNoise> and math
#1298 [05:14] <Cool_guy_mike> how normal people function
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#1300 [05:14] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, normal people don't rage about agreed terms :)
#1301 [05:14] <feenyx> I'm not taking definitions of 'normal' from a troll like you
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#1303 [05:15] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: you do realize that being on IRC gives us your IP address
#1304 [05:15] <Cool_guy_mike> but youre an aspie bro
#1305 [05:15] <xales> this means I can track you down
#1306 [05:15] <xales> and kill you
#1307 [05:15] <xales> for real
#1308 [05:15] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, clearly we can give you your money back.
#1309 [05:15] <Cool_guy_mike> lol you can not track anybody down
#1310 [05:15] <Cool_guy_mike> by their ip address
#1311 [05:15] <Cool_guy_mike> you cretin
#1312 [05:15] <xales> I can actually
#1313 [05:15] <xales> dumbass
#1314 [05:15] <Cool_guy_mike> quit watching csi
#1315 [05:15] <CruelNoise> uh
#1316 [05:15] <CruelNoise> there are free geoip services
#1317 [05:15] <Cool_guy_mike> you can find out what state and city i live in
#1318 [05:15] <Visiiri> It's more than possible for most IPs
#1319 [05:15] <feenyx> a 12 year old wouldn't know better :p
#1320 [05:15] <Zenreich> xales, CruelNoise /ignore
#1321 [05:15] <CruelNoise> Zenreich: yeah, i did.
#1322 [05:15] <CruelNoise> but I decided to fuck with this guy a little more.
#1323 [05:16] <Cool_guy_mike> you are some incompetent fools
#1324 [05:16] <CruelNoise> because i hate him.
#1325 [05:16] <Cool_guy_mike> to think you can pin me down
#1326 [05:16] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: you live in Topeka. Your ISP is Cox communications
#1327 [05:16] <Visiiri> CruelNoise, Zenreich, he's too much fun to fuck with.
#1328 [05:16] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, incompetent fools
#1329 [05:16] <Cool_guy_mike> yes i live in topeka
#1330 [05:16] <Zenreich> itc Cool_guy_mike didnt take his autism medication today
#1331 [05:16] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, you're so right. We're all soooo dumb.
#1332 [05:16] <Cool_guy_mike> i said you could find out my city
#1333 [05:16] <Cool_guy_mike> and state
#1334 [05:16] <Cool_guy_mike> you moron
#1335 [05:16] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, maybe if you keep raging you will get your money back.
#1336 [05:16] <Cool_guy_mike> now find my address
#1337 [05:16] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: you said nothing. I cant find your address, I do have your lat and long though
#1338 [05:16] <feenyx> Cool_guy_mike: question: If I DO find your home address, will you leave us be?
#1339 [05:16] <Cool_guy_mike> absolutely
#1340 [05:17] <feenyx> cool
#1341 [05:17] <feenyx> expect a postcard: )
#1342 [05:17] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: say /part and it will hide your IP address by the way
#1343 [05:17] <Cool_guy_mike> hurrr
#1344 [05:17] <Zenreich> ...
#1345 [05:18] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, do you know how people triangulate earthquake locations? You can do that with most IPs, too.
#1346 [05:18] <Zenreich> itc xales and feenyx are worse than mike
#1347 [05:18] <feenyx> hey, when in Rome
#1348 [05:18] <xales> Zenreich: I am feeding because I am bored
#1349 [05:18] <Zenreich> xales, you're just making yourself look dumb
#1350 [05:18] <xales> I can not find entertainment for myself, thus I will create it
#1351 [05:18] <xales> Zenreich, i dont care xD
#1352 [05:18] <Cool_guy_mike> visiiri: you watch too much ncis bro
#1353 [05:18] <xales> I do that intentinally
#1354 [05:18] <CruelNoise> I'm pretty sure he lives in oklahoma
#1355 [05:18] <xales> CruelNoise: yup, topeka
#1356 [05:18] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, you don't work at CableOne :)
#1357 [05:18] <CruelNoise> okthx
#1358 [05:19] <Cool_guy_mike> no but i am a computer science major
#1359 [05:19] <Cool_guy_mike> and i can assure you
#1360 [05:19] <xales> I bet you are
#1361 [05:19] <Zenreich> <_>
#1362 [05:19] <Visiiri> But you're eighteen.
#1363 [05:19] <Zenreich> ^
#1364 [05:19] <Cool_guy_mike> that ip triangulation cannot pinpoint an exact location
#1365 [05:19] <xales> 18 and you have declared your major
#1366 [05:19] <xales> sounds right
#1367 [05:19] <CruelNoise> mmhmm
#1368 [05:19] <Cool_guy_mike> indeed
#1369 [05:19] <Visiiri> xales, even if he had, he couldn't have taken many of the classes.
#1370 [05:19] <Cool_guy_mike> i graduated highschool a semester early
#1371 [05:19] <CruelNoise> Must have genious on our hands, guys.
#1372 [05:19] <xales> *any
#1373 [05:19] <Cool_guy_mike> took care of most of my gen ed during high school
#1374 [05:19] <CruelNoise> wow
#1375 [05:20] <xales> arent you special
#1376 [05:20] <CruelNoise> you got a major in a semester!
#1377 [05:20] <Cool_guy_mike> already have my ccna
#1378 [05:20] <Zenreich> xD cisco
#1379 [05:20] <feenyx> loltrollfood
#1380 [05:20] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: what is a linked list
#1381 [05:20] <xales> Computer science 101 bro
#1382 [05:20] <Visiiri> inb4 google
#1383 [05:20] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, how's it gonna feel making 10k a year off Windows IT?
#1384 [05:20] <feenyx> also, what's a Catalyst 5505 do?
#1385 [05:20] <xales> Zenreich: trolololol
#1386 [05:20] <xales> probably make more at mcdonalds
#1387 [05:21] <CruelNoise> oh, btw, xales, I woul appreciate it if you could detail to me the method in which you speedily found his location?
#1388 [05:21] <Visiiri> xales, nope :(
#1389 [05:21] <Cool_guy_mike> implying my only cert is going to be ccna
#1390 [05:21] <xales> CruelNoise: http://www.maxmind.com/app/locate_demo_ip?ips=ip68-103-199-13.ks.ok.cox.net
#1391 [05:21] <Zenreich> oh i see
#1392 [05:21] <Cool_guy_mike> i fully intend to get my mcse within the next few years
#1393 [05:21] <Visiiri> xales, well, I work management so get 1.5x minimum wage. I only get about 16k a year
#1394 [05:21] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike here's gonna get an ethical hacker cert
#1395 [05:21] <xales> Visiiri: thats more than 10k
#1396 [05:21] <xales> :D
#1397 [05:21] <Zenreich> gonna white knight boxxy with his leet haqr skills
#1398 [05:21] <Visiiri> xales, but that's management
#1399 [05:21] <xales> he must be a Cool_guy
#1400 [05:21] <Zenreich> ^
#1401 [05:21] <Visiiri> So yes, if you work 'at mcdonnalds' you can make several hundred thousand a year
#1402 [05:22] <Visiiri> But as a normal employee, it isn't likely.
#1403 [05:22] <Cool_guy_mike> lol mcdonnalds
#1404 [05:22] <Cool_guy_mike> its mcdonalds brah
#1405 [05:22] <xales> I think we know that
#1406 [05:22] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, yup, but I work there and can't afford a keyboard that isn't sticky.
#1407 [05:22] <xales> shitstain
#1408 [05:22] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, sorry to let you down with my shit life.
#1409 [05:22] <feenyx> also, it's "brother" brah
#1410 [05:22] <xales> feenyx: lulz
#1411 [05:22] <xales> :P
#1412 [05:23] <feenyx> don't correct bad grammar with worse grammar
#1413 [05:23] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: I dont have a job
#1414 [05:23] <xales> who wants to hire someone with autism who likes legos, 20 year old graphics?
#1415 [05:23] <Kealper> ya or i com to you hous an hert yu
#1416 [05:23] <CruelNoise> I'm twelve.
#1417 [05:23] <xales> I'm four and a half
#1418 [05:23] <Visiiri> So, Cool_guy_mike, what are you doing up at this hour?
#1419 [05:24] <Zenreich> I'm a 40 year old rapist.
#1420 [05:24] <CruelNoise> oh
#1421 [05:24] <Cool_guy_mike> not a whole lot
#1422 [05:24] <CruelNoise> fuck
#1423 [05:24] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: your bedtime isnt later because its winter break. dont let mommy catch you on the computer
#1424 [05:24] <Cool_guy_mike> watching some netflix
#1425 [05:24] <Kealper> Zenreich: sounds hot
#1426 [05:24] <CruelNoise> it's nearly five thiry.
#1427 [05:24] <Visiiri> *four thirty
#1428 [05:24] <Cool_guy_mike> my name is earl in particular
#1429 [05:24] * Zenreich gropes Kealper from behind
#1429 [05:24] <Kealper> oh my
#1430 [05:24] <CruelNoise> Visiiri: you do realize we're in different timezones.
#1431 [05:24] <xales> Kealper: any ops you can find? your almost there, voiced :P
#1432 [05:24] <Visiiri> CruelNoise, oh, it's 5:30 where YOU are
#1433 [05:24] <Kealper> xales: i should legitly ask for op in here, shouldn't i lol
#1434 [05:24] <Visiiri> Also, CTCP time is wrong
#1435 [05:25] <xales> Kealper: its needed
#1436 [05:25] <Visiiri> because W7 keeps fucking with my time
#1437 [05:25] <Visiiri> Set it to right
#1438 [05:25] <CruelNoise> I noticed
#1439 [05:25] <Visiiri> Now it is wrong
#1440 [05:25] <CruelNoise> fix it.
#1441 [05:25] <Cool_guy_mike> also, lol at that "geo locator" you posted there xales
#1442 [05:25] <feenyx> Kealper: sign me up while you're at it. We seem to be a bit more active than the current powers that be
#1443 [05:25] <Cool_guy_mike> those coordinates arent even close
#1444 [05:25] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: why is that?
#1445 [05:25] <Cool_guy_mike> to my address
#1446 [05:25] <xales> They indeed, are
#1447 [05:25] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, i have a much better geo locator
#1448 [05:25] <Cool_guy_mike> i put it into google maps
#1449 [05:25] <Cool_guy_mike> and lol'd immensely
#1450 [05:25] <xales> congrats
#1451 [05:25] <xales> I used a free serice
#1452 [05:25] <Kealper> i'll just ask grey in a non-sarcastic manor next time he's here
#1453 [05:25] <xales> service*
#1454 [05:25] <xales> in about 10 seconds
#1455 [05:25] <xales> I can get much more detailed info
#1456 [05:25] <CruelNoise> manner*
#1457 [05:26] <Kealper> yea yea it's 5:30 am
#1458 [05:26] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, it uses enhanced neuraltransmissional geolocator satellite technology to transconfigure your exact geocoordinate location from a secure geosatellite database
#1459 [05:26] <Visiiri> CruelNoise, fixed
#1460 [05:26] <Visiiri> Zenreich, jeez, you're worse than Mike, QQ
#1461 [05:26] <Zenreich> Visiiri, </csi>
#1462 [05:26] <Cool_guy_mike> Cool story, bro.
#1463 [05:27] <Visiiri> Zenreich, you haven't the right anymore to complain about trolling or feeding the trolls,.
#1464 [05:27] <CruelNoise> Visiiri: it's still wrong.
#1465 [05:27] <Kealper> Zenreich: can i make a gooey in visual basic to track the killer's ip address while we're at it?
#1466 [05:27] <Visiiri> CruelNoise, wat
#1467 [05:27] <Visiiri> It says 3:27 AM
#1468 [05:27] <CruelNoise> it says three thirty.
#1469 [05:27] <Visiiri> That's right.
#1470 [05:27] <Cool_guy_mike> being verbose makes you look like a retard by the way
#1471 [05:27] <Zenreich> Visiiri, I wasnt bitching about trolling, I was bitching about xales being a lamer :/
#1472 [05:27] <CruelNoise> you said it was four thirty!
#1473 [05:27] <xales> Kealper: no, he is using IPv6 ovviously. you need to get an FBI link to do that
#1474 [05:27] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, how is it verbose, most of it isnt even english
#1475 [05:27] <Visiiri> CruelNoise, I was speaking of HIS timezone
#1476 [05:27] <CruelNoise> ooou
#1477 [05:28] <CruelNoise> meh
#1478 [05:28] <xales> Zenreich: intentional :P
#1479 [05:28] <Kealper> xales: we'll just have to enhance the retinal reflection then
#1480 [05:28] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, so why are you here again? Do you need help?
#1481 [05:28] <Zenreich> Visiiri, he wants us to give him a refund <_>
#1482 [05:28] <xales> Kealper: but then the killer can just use his phone and we will need to get some NSA satellite time to track him
#1483 [05:28] <Cool_guy_mike> i need somebody to pad my paypal account
#1484 [05:28] <Cool_guy_mike> with 15 bucks
#1485 [05:28] <Visiiri> Why?
#1486 [05:28] <Visiiri> Do you need food?
#1487 [05:28] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: ok, whats your paypal email?
#1488 [05:28] <Zenreich> xales: NSA? I can program a GUI interface in Visual Basic to track the killer
#1489 [05:28] <Visiiri> I'm sure there's a homeless shelter in Topeka
#1490 [05:29] <Visiiri> Certainly around this time of year
#1491 [05:29] <xales> Zenreich: but the NSA is 1337 and you are 1336
#1492 [05:29] <Cool_guy_mike> no
#1493 [05:29] <Kealper> Cool_guy_mike: i'll try to be blunt here: get out you damn troll.
#1494 [05:29] <Zenreich> and rofl
#1495 [05:29] <Zenreich> kansas
#1496 [05:29] <Cool_guy_mike> listen here you damn aspies
#1497 [05:29] * xales stops being an idiot, though it is amusing when you havent slept for 36 hours
#1497 [05:29] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, I'm listening.
#1498 [05:29] <Cool_guy_mike> i realize you like building neat little castles
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#1500 [05:29] <xales> no, *WE* are listening
#1501 [05:29] <Cool_guy_mike> that serve no purpose whatsoever
#1502 [05:29] <CruelNoise> hey
#1503 [05:29] <CruelNoise> uh
#1504 [05:29] <Cool_guy_mike> for all your other aspie friends to look at
#1505 [05:29] <CruelNoise> guys
#1506 [05:29] <Cool_guy_mike> but i dont
#1507 [05:29] <Zenreich> also
#1508 [05:30] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, that is understandable, not everyone likes what I like.
#1509 [05:30] <CruelNoise> i just realized that this ass might be breaking esper's charter.
#1510 [05:30] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, >paying $15 for a game you havnt tried or are sure that you'll like
#1511 [05:30] <Zenreich> arent sure*
#1512 [05:30] <xales> CruelNoise: ooh, how. lets get testdummy
#1513 [05:30] <CruelNoise> let me make sure first
#1514 [05:30] <Visiiri> I think mr_flea would be a better choice, but I don't think it's against the esper net rcharter
#1515 [05:30] <Visiiri> Charter, either
#1516 [05:30] <xales> Visiiri: it is
#1517 [05:30] <Cool_guy_mike> lol hit me with a gline
#1518 [05:30] <Cool_guy_mike> babyyyyy
#1519 [05:31] <xales> Harassing users, e.g. through inflammatory messages.
#1520 [05:31] <Cool_guy_mike> this is 2010
#1521 [05:31] <CruelNoise> Harassing users, e.g. through inflammatory messages.
#1522 [05:31] <Cool_guy_mike> glines mean nothing
#1523 [05:31] <CruelNoise> I think it countes
#1524 [05:31] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: circumventing a ban means we can talk to your ISP
#1525 [05:31] <Cool_guy_mike> ill be back within seconds
#1526 [05:31] <feenyx> gline means you'reo ut
#1527 [05:31] <xales> and get your service disconnected
#1528 [05:31] <feenyx> you're out*
#1529 [05:31] <xales> it is against the law, dumbass
#1530 [05:31] <feenyx> also, what xales said
#1531 [05:32] <xales> im sure abuse@cox.net would love an email from us
#1532 [05:32] <Cool_guy_mike> implying im not circumventing a ban as we speak
#1533 [05:32] <xales> they tend to take action when not one but several people report you
#1534 [05:32] <CruelNoise> So, would you say that he's "Harassing users, e.g. through inflammatory messages."
#1535 [05:32] <xales> CruelNoise: indeed
#1536 [05:32] <CruelNoise> xales: head over to #dragonweyr, then
#1537 [05:32] <xales> and if he is circumventing an existing ban, so much the better
#1538 [05:32] <Cool_guy_mike> lol im not
#1539 [05:32] <xales> you are
#1540 [05:32] <Cool_guy_mike> if you guys want to ban me so be it
#1541 [05:33] <xales> ok
#1542 [05:33] <Cool_guy_mike> all i want
#1543 [05:33] <xales> we will
#1544 [05:33] <xales> you wont get a refund
#1545 [05:33] <xales> tootles
#1546 [05:33] <Cool_guy_mike> is my money back
#1547 [05:33] <Cool_guy_mike> if nobody is gonna help me out
#1548 [05:33] <Cool_guy_mike> then fine
#1549 [05:33] <Kealper> Cool_guy_mike: support@mojang.com
#1550 [05:33] <Cool_guy_mike> is there any way to explain to him
#1551 [05:33] <Cool_guy_mike> that i didnt play the game for a week
#1552 [05:33] <CruelNoise> look
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#1554 [05:33] <CruelNoise> you agreed to somethng when you bought the game
#1555 [05:34] <CruelNoise> you are legally bound to that agreement.
#1556 [05:34] <Kealper> what is he even on about? i had irc minimized for a bit
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#1558 [05:34] <Cool_guy_mike> heres the jist of it
#1559 [05:34] <Cool_guy_mike> gist rather
#1560 [05:34] <Cool_guy_mike> i bought minecraft a week ago
#1561 [05:34] <xales> too fucking bad
#1562 [05:34] <xales> learn to reed
#1563 [05:34] <Cool_guy_mike> a bit over maybe
#1564 [05:34] <xales> read*
#1565 [05:34] <xales> shitstain
#1566 [05:34] <CruelNoise> xales: not now.
#1567 [05:35] <Kealper> less complaining, i would like to read what he has to say
#1568 [05:35] <Zenreich> ...
#1569 [05:35] <Zenreich> So uh
#1570 [05:35] <xales> CruelNoise: lol, fine. 36 hours no sleep :(
#1571 [05:35] <Cool_guy_mike> i haven't played it in over a week
#1572 [05:35] <Zenreich> This isnt really related to minecraft technical support
#1573 [05:35] <Zenreich> at all
#1574 [05:35] <Cool_guy_mike> i just now played it
#1575 [05:35] <Cool_guy_mike> i didnt like it
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#1577 [05:35] <Cool_guy_mike> if you scroll up to when i first entered this chat
#1578 [05:35] <Cool_guy_mike> i was as polite as i could possibly be
#1579 [05:35] <Kealper> chat only stores the last 500 lines
#1580 [05:35] <xales> no, you werent
#1581 [05:35] <CruelNoise> yes, and we tried to help you.
#1582 [05:36] <Cool_guy_mike> and i got flamed
#1583 [05:36] <CruelNoise> untill you got angry
#1584 [05:36] <Zenreich> hrm
#1585 [05:36] <Cool_guy_mike> immediately when i said i wanted to get a refund and i didnt like it
#1586 [05:36] <Zenreich> my whole buffer contains your bitching
#1587 [05:36] <Cool_guy_mike> everybody was like
#1588 [05:36] <Cool_guy_mike> "LOL GO PLAY CALL OF DUTY THEN FAGGOT"
#1589 [05:36] <CruelNoise> we said that you couldn't get a refund
#1590 [05:36] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, that's about 3/4ths down my buffer
#1591 [05:36] <CruelNoise> and you talked about how it was a terrible game
#1592 [05:36] <Zenreich> so more like
#1593 [05:36] <Zenreich> 10 minutes ago.
#1594 [05:36] <CruelNoise> and asked if we could make it more like CoD
#1595 [05:36] <CruelNoise> no, we can't.
#1596 [05:36] <Visiiri> <Cool_guy_mike> you moron | <Cool_guy_mike> you are some incompetent fools | <Cool_guy_mike> thats because you aspies dont understand | <Cool_guy_mike> you cretin
#1597 [05:37] <Visiiri> That doesn't sound very polite to me.
#1598 [05:37] <Cool_guy_mike> i meant long before that
#1599 [05:37] <Cool_guy_mike> ive been in and out
#1600 [05:37] <CruelNoise> i like that word
#1601 [05:37] <Cool_guy_mike> for a few hours
#1602 [05:37] <CruelNoise> cretin
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#1604 [05:37] <CruelNoise> fine
#1605 [05:37] <CruelNoise> I'll go grab my long term logs
#1606 [05:37] <CruelNoise> would you like that?
#1607 [05:37] <Kealper> Cool_guy_mike: not sure if you were actually being a dick or not...whatever, i could not care less...email payments@mojang.com or payment@mojang.com i forget what it is offhand
#1608 [05:37] <Cool_guy_mike> yes and im sure that you will find that i was also a victim of derogatory messages
#1609 [05:37] <CruelNoise> Kealper: yeah, we told him that
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#1611 [05:38] <CruelNoise> he called us autistic -.-0
#1612 [05:38] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, if you at this point are so surprised by the game mechanics of MC, you clearly had no idea what it was when you bought it. Therefore, you spent $15 on a game you knew nothing about beforehand.
#1613 [05:38] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: you also ignored what it stated, that you have 1 week to get a refund
#1614 [05:38] <Kealper> tell them you would like a refund, you don't need to be a dick or anything, just say that you were not pleased with the game and you would like a refund.
#1615 [05:38] <Cool_guy_mike> yeah unfortunately i already did kealper
#1616 [05:38] <Cool_guy_mike> they told me too bad
#1617 [05:38] <Cool_guy_mike> basically
#1618 [05:39] <CruelNoise> yes
#1619 [05:39] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, so, how may we, as a community, help you?
#1620 [05:39] <CruelNoise> there's nothing we can do about it.
#1621 [05:39] <Kealper> well then, there is nothing that can be done from here
#1622 [05:39] <Cool_guy_mike> you can help me by either a) giving me a tip regarding another way to get a refund
#1623 [05:39] <Kealper> you are quite literally, shit outta 10-euros
#1624 [05:39] <Cool_guy_mike> or b) tell me something fun to do in minecraft
#1625 [05:39] <Cool_guy_mike> besides kill cucumber men
#1626 [05:39] <Cool_guy_mike> and build giant castles
#1627 [05:39] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, theres a wiki
#1628 [05:39] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, I like going into caves and finding diamonds.
#1629 [05:39] <Cool_guy_mike> caves you create yourself
#1630 [05:40] <Cool_guy_mike> ?
#1631 [05:40] <Kealper> Cool_guy_mike: minecraft is what you make it to be; if you are a creative person, you will find joy in minecraft
#1632 [05:40] <Zenreich> If you arent, take drugs.
#1633 [05:40] <Cool_guy_mike> link to said wiki please
#1634 [05:40] <Kealper> Cool_guy_mike: automatically generated ones....play the game, explore a little
#1635 [05:40] <Kealper> http://minecraftwiki.net
#1636 [05:40] <peru> building complicated cart tracks, with automation (redstone wiring)
#1637 [05:40] <Cool_guy_mike> there are automatically generated caves?
#1638 [05:40] <Kealper> explains all sorts of things
#1639 [05:40] <Cool_guy_mike> is there anything inside?
#1640 [05:40] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#1641 [05:40] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: yes
#1642 [05:40] <xales> giant exploding penises
#1643 [05:40] <Cool_guy_mike> lol cucumber men
#1644 [05:40] <Cool_guy_mike> any loot or anything
#1645 [05:41] <Kealper> Cool_guy_mike: if you would like to see the basics, check out this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MqkEZn8pN4
#1646 [05:41] <peru> gun powder, you can make TNT from it
#1647 [05:41] <Kealper> all videos on this page ( http://minecraft.net/help.jsp ) are quite helpful to anyone new to the game
#1648 [05:42] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: yes
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#1650 [05:42] <Cool_guy_mike> by loot do you mean only things that the cucumber men drop
#1651 [05:43] <Kealper> any mobs (animals or monsters) usually drop various things
#1652 [05:43] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: no
#1653 [05:43] <CruelNoise> here's my logs fromw hen he first joined to a few minutes ago, if anyone's still interested http://pastebin.com/DSnLytzm
#1654 [05:43] <xales> there are lots of things like gold and diamond
#1655 [05:43] <xales> and lava that burns stuff
#1656 [05:43] <Cool_guy_mike> can you harvest said lava
#1657 [05:44] <Kealper> Cool_guy_mike: read the wiki, it explains all the stuff you are asking
#1658 [05:44] <Cool_guy_mike> alright im gonna check it out
#1659 [05:44] <Cool_guy_mike> thanks man
#1660 [05:44] <ZerOmega> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#1661 [05:44] <ZerOmega> here's a link
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#1663 [05:45] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, you can make computers in Minecraft.
#1664 [05:45] <Kealper> ok reading those....if i were an op in this channel...my troll-alarm would have been ringing full-blast...and that would have been a near instant kick
#1665 [05:45] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkkyKZVzug
#1666 [05:45] <Cool_guy_mike> lol zenreich
#1667 [05:46] <Zenreich> but uh, yeah
#1668 [05:46] <xales> Kealper: knockout is more appropriate, AKA kickban
#1669 [05:46] <Cool_guy_mike> holyfuck
#1670 [05:46] <Zenreich> xales, you're continuing something that's over
#1671 [05:46] <Cool_guy_mike> did that dude mod that
#1672 [05:46] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, nope
#1673 [05:46] <Zenreich> Redstone, bro
#1674 [05:46] <Zenreich> Complex logic gate systems
#1675 [05:46] <xales> Zenreich: I know
#1676 [05:47] <Kealper> well, the channel banlist has a limit, bans should be reserved for real issues
#1677 [05:47] <xales> Kealper: bots
#1678 [05:47] <xales> autokick
#1679 [05:47] <xales> no issue
#1680 [05:47] <Kealper> xales: eh?
#1681 [05:47] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, you can also build massive TNT cannons
#1682 [05:48] <Cool_guy_mike> dude that video made me nerdgasm
#1683 [05:48] <xales> Kealper: just have a bot to autokick. no limit on how many hosts it can autokick
#1684 [05:48] <CruelNoise> xales: so, what went down in #dragonweyr?
#1685 [05:48] <Cool_guy_mike> zenreich
#1686 [05:48] <Cool_guy_mike> i searched tnt cannon on the wiki
#1687 [05:48] <Cool_guy_mike> and didnt find anything
#1688 [05:48] <xales> CruelNoise: interesting, you asked me that in teh exact same moment I parted
#1689 [05:49] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, youtube
#1690 [05:49] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: look on youtube
#1691 [05:49] <Kealper> that could just spam the channel with joins/kicks then....a simple kick would work, and if they had autojoin or rejoined and kept doing it, a 60 sec ban would be in order
#1692 [05:49] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike: Imperial Avenger is a big cannon that uses 28 TNT to fire its missile
#1693 [05:49] <xales> Kealper: which bot could also do :)
#1694 [05:49] <xales> 28TNT charge?
#1695 [05:49] <xales> what
#1696 [05:49] <Kealper> yea but i don't feel like making my bot detect that lol
#1697 [05:49] <xales> how big was that cannon? lol
#1698 [05:49] <CruelNoise> xales: so, are you going to tell me?
#1699 [05:49] <xales> and how big was the shot?
#1700 [05:49] <xales> CruelNoise: oh sorry
#1701 [05:49] <CruelNoise> Kealper: you run that aubot thing, right?
#1702 [05:49] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike: Granted, the people who design them and make these videos have some autism <_>
#1703 [05:49] <Kealper> yes
#1704 [05:49] <xales> well basically, it was the "ops enforce channel rules"
#1705 [05:50] <xales> routine
#1706 [05:50] <Zenreich> ALso
#1707 [05:50] <Zenreich> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l4Gza2t37A&NR=1&feature=fvwp
#1708 [05:50] <Visiiri> http://www.esper.net/charter.php
#1709 [05:50] <xales> Visiiri: the charter states the purpose. its not an explicit rule list
#1710 [05:50] <xales> <3
#1711 [05:50] <Zenreich> xales, ops =/= ircops
#1712 [05:50] <CruelNoise> ah
#1713 [05:50] <Visiiri> "prohibited"
#1714 [05:50] <xales> Zenreich: I know. I was an IRCop about 3 years ago
#1715 [05:50] <xales> I resigned because I was bothered so much by idiots
#1716 [05:50] <CruelNoise> where?
#1717 [05:51] <Visiiri> Also, section 2 is terms of use
#1718 [05:51] <CruelNoise> XD
#1719 [05:51] <CruelNoise> Do you think that they named it #dragonweyr to be intimidating?
#1720 [05:51] <Visiiri> "any activities which jeopardize the rights of other users in that regard or generally, or the existence or functionality of EsperNet as a whole, are prohibited." http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=define:prohibited
#1721 [05:51] <Visiiri> Just sayin'
#1722 [05:51] <xales> CruelNoise: probably
#1723 [05:51] <xales> lol
#1724 [05:52] <Kealper> what's all this prohibition about?
#1725 [05:52] <xales> Visiiri was citing the Esper charter to Esper server admin
#1726 [05:52] <Visiiri> I wasn't citing it by any means.
#1727 [05:52] <xales> which probably isnt a good idea
#1728 [05:52] <Kealper> who's an esper oper?
#1729 [05:53] <Visiiri> I was simply telling him that I was under the impression that maybe the ircops were there to do something other than standby and let the channel operators handle it.
#1730 [05:53] <Visiiri> Kealper, there's quite a few.
#1731 [05:53] <Kealper> i mean in here...lol
#1732 [05:53] <CruelNoise> well
#1733 [05:53] <CruelNoise> there's a few with names starting with M
#1734 [05:53] <CruelNoise> m0d and mr_fleah
#1735 [05:54] <Kealper> oh
#1736 [05:54] <feenyx> we wouldn't need ircops if there were regular ops present though
#1737 [05:54] <Kealper> meh
#1738 [05:54] <CruelNoise> Those're the ones I recognize on the userlist.
#1739 [05:55] <xales> feenyx: ircops never do anything channel related unless normal means have been exhausted
#1740 [05:55] <Kealper> opers can't do jack to channel stuff
#1741 [05:55] <xales> Kealper: they can kill
#1742 [05:55] <feenyx> xales: I know as much. We're struggling to exhaust regular means though
#1743 [05:55] <Kealper> they can kick or ban users, but they have no specific channel privs
#1744 [05:55] <CruelNoise> Kealper: they can make themseleves have whatever modes they liek
#1745 [05:55] <xales> feenyx: we havent used /ignore and no ops have kicked or banned
#1746 [05:55] <Kealper> xales: indeed, i just type super slow
#1747 [05:55] <CruelNoise> via chanserv.
#1748 [05:55] <xales> CruelNoise: actually, they cannot
#1749 [05:55] <Cool_guy_mike> dude
#1750 [05:56] <CruelNoise> xales: I'm pretty sure they can...
#1751 [05:56] <xales> on some network operserv will do that
#1752 [05:56] <Kealper> i used to be an oper on a network running anope services, they can't
#1753 [05:56] <xales> however
#1754 [05:56] <xales> chanserv will not do that
#1755 [05:56] <xales> most chanservs anyway
#1756 [05:56] <Cool_guy_mike> how do these people get like 64
#1757 [05:56] <Cool_guy_mike> tnt
#1758 [05:56] <xales> its bad conduct to op yourself anyawy
#1759 [05:56] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: they play for a long time
#1760 [05:56] <Cool_guy_mike> that is some serious cucumber men slaying
#1761 [05:56] <Visiiri> Cool_guy_mike, killing lots of creepers.
#1762 [05:57] <xales> Visiiri: they are giant green exploding penises
#1763 [05:57] <xales> not creepers
#1764 [05:57] <Cool_guy_mike> i prefer cucumber men personally
#1765 [05:57] <Kealper> alright so...hopefully grey sees my pm i sent him when he gets up...and i'm off to bed nao
#1766 [05:58] <Visiiri> http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6075/creepersuck.png
#1767 [05:58] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, INVedit
#1768 [05:58] <Cool_guy_mike> thanks for the help kealper
#1769 [05:58] <Cool_guy_mike> later
#1770 [05:58] <xales> Visiiri: you know that guy is sucking a giant green exploding penis right?
#1771 [05:58] <Visiiri> That lady is puking a creeper. Duh
#1772 [05:58] <xales> :P
#1773 [05:58] <xales> I disagree
#1774 [05:59] <xales> you have no right to say what it is, for I am an internet user
#1775 [05:59] <Visiiri> So? :P
#1776 [05:59] <CruelNoise> Visiiri: I have raeson to believe that that is your face.
#1777 [05:59] <xales> I have a right to my opinion
#1778 [05:59] <xales> and i will attach it to my massive e-peen and flaunt it in your face
#1779 [05:59] <Visiiri> CruelNoise, it's vurtual's face, actually
#1780 [05:59] <CruelNoise> !
#1781 [05:59] <CruelNoise> !!!!!
#1782 [05:59] <CruelNoise> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1783 [05:59] <CruelNoise> say it isn't so!
#1784 [05:59] <Kealper> since i lied and i'm still here
#1785 [06:00] <Visiiri> Sure is
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#1787 [06:00] <Kealper> are you serious? or just joking? lol
#1788 [06:00] <Visiiri> Serious
#1789 [06:00] <Visiiri> Know her IRL
#1790 [06:00] <Cool_guy_mike> i have a real quick question
#1791 [06:00] <Kealper> o.o
#1792 [06:00] <Cool_guy_mike> i just saw a guys youtube video
#1793 [06:00] <CruelNoise> you live in different states.
#1794 [06:00] <Cool_guy_mike> and he had an option for a "tutorial level"
#1795 [06:00] <Visiiri> But I have a car and so does she.
#1796 [06:00] <Cool_guy_mike> was that only an option in early builds?
#1797 [06:00] <Visiiri> We sex all the time, but she doesn't like it much. She would rather I am a lady. I pretend, though.
#1798 [06:01] <Cool_guy_mike> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSxYSjPWSxw
#1799 [06:01] <Cool_guy_mike> its at the end of that one
#1800 [06:01] <Kealper> one could pretend..lol
#1801 [06:01] <CruelNoise> Visiiri: I could imagine you pretending.
#1802 [06:01] <CruelNoise> With all that hair of yours.
#1803 [06:01] <Visiiri> I actually shaved my head in August
#1804 [06:01] <CruelNoise> for some reason I assume you have long hair.
#1805 [06:01] <CruelNoise> kk
#1806 [06:01] <Visiiri> I do usually.
#1807 [06:01] <Visiiri> I had to shave it for swimming.
#1808 [06:01] <Kealper> alright so i'm actually going afk now....
#1809 [06:01] <Visiiri> Shaved everything except a ring around my face.
#1810 [06:01] <Kealper> cya #MineCraftHelp
#1811 [06:01] <Visiiri> Like, sidburns-neck-head
#1812 [06:01] <CruelNoise> bye Kealper
#1813 [06:01] <Visiiri> Twas beastly
#1814 [06:02] <Visiiri> Hard to grow sideburns thick though! Takes some time!
#1815 [06:02] <CruelNoise> Visiiri, if you ever stop using the avatar tha tyou use on your soundcloud, can I use it. It's fucking awesome. Like, even if it's years, I just want it if you disown it.
#1816 [06:02] <Cool_guy_mike> in regards to that tutorial level, can anyone explain please.
#1817 [06:03] <Visiiri> Which one?
#1818 [06:03] <CruelNoise> Cool_guy_mike: i've never heard of a tutorial level
#1819 [06:03] <Cool_guy_mike> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSxYSjPWSxw
#1820 [06:03] <Con> Cool_guy_mike: It's greyed out, that button was replaced with a working button
#1821 [06:03] <Cool_guy_mike> so was it a planned feature that just didnt make the cut then?
#1822 [06:03] <CruelNoise> http://i1.soundcloud.com/avatars-000001570507-7gofbb-crop.jpg?9c20ef
#1823 [06:03] <Visiiri> Hm
#1824 [06:03] <Visiiri> I'll disown
#1825 [06:03] <Visiiri> Save it
#1826 [06:03] <CruelNoise> nononono
#1827 [06:04] <CruelNoise> not now
#1828 [06:04] <CruelNoise> like, in the futre
#1829 [06:04] <CruelNoise> future*
#1830 [06:04] <Visiiri> Still, save it.
#1831 [06:04] <Visiiri> I'll change it later, to my Steam one or summat
#1832 [06:04] <Visiiri> Thinking about drawing me in Illustrator
#1833 [06:04] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: not yet anyway, it may be there eventually
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#1835 [06:07] <CruelNoise> http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson122.html
#1836 [06:08] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, you might also wanna have a look at the Client Mods article
#1837 [06:08] <Cool_guy_mike> yeah i was just looking at that
#1838 [06:08] <Cool_guy_mike> so i could essentially give myself as much tnt as i wanted?
#1839 [06:08] <Zenreich> with INVedit, an external program, yeah
#1840 [06:09] <Zenreich> You should only really do that when working on projects though, it ruins the fun of SP
#1841 [06:09] <Cool_guy_mike> yeah i was just thinking that it might take away from the satisfaction of making things yourself
#1842 [06:10] <Cool_guy_mike> would still be kind of cool to rig a giant line of tnt all over the map though
#1843 [06:10] <Zenreich> To do that effectively, you'd need an assload of redstone wire and lots of extenders
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#1845 [06:11] <Cool_guy_mike> couldnt you just line up tnt right next to each other spanning a long distance
#1846 [06:11] <Cool_guy_mike> and lighting one would set off a chain reaction
#1847 [06:11] <Visiiri> That's sloppy and not redoable
#1848 [06:11] <Zenreich> Given enough explosive force, another TNT could be activated, but
#1849 [06:11] <Zenreich> Its sloppy and you dont have a guarentee that they'll all, or any, go off
#1850 [06:12] <Zenreich> Not sure how wire extenders work without craftbook..
#1851 [06:13] <xales> Visiiri: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=114489
#1852 [06:13] <Zenreich> oh here we g
#1853 [06:13] <Zenreich> go*
#1854 [06:13] <Zenreich> http://forums.redstonewire.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=37540&view=unread#p641815
#1855 [06:13] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: as long as the chunk was loaded. there is a limit to how many chunks will load at once
#1856 [06:14] <Cool_guy_mike> what exactly are chunks?
#1857 [06:14] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: also, the world that the game can generate is rougly 8 times the surface of the earth. you will never make enough TNT
#1858 [06:14] <Zenreich> ^
#1859 [06:14] <Cool_guy_mike> holy shit
#1860 [06:14] <xales> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Chunks
#1861 [06:14] <Zenreich> Minecraft doesnt have a fixed map size
#1862 [06:14] <Cool_guy_mike> the maps are seriously that big?
#1863 [06:14] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: they generate as you explore
#1864 [06:14] <Visiiri> xales, I just asked Jeb to do it
#1865 [06:14] <xales> due to technical limitations
#1866 [06:14] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, as you explore, the game generates more chunks, which on-demand creates more map space
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#1868 [06:14] <Cool_guy_mike> so you can never reach the end of the map per se
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#1870 [06:14] <xales> 8 times the surface of the earth is about as far as you can go
#1871 [06:15] <xales> Cool_guy_mike: it would take many hours of walking
#1872 [06:15] <xales> many hours
#1873 [06:15] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike: The more you explore, the bigger the map file will get. If you go too far out and gen too many chunks on multiplayer it can cause server instability
#1874 [06:15] <xales> im not sure anyone has actually done it yet
#1875 [06:15] <xales> T_T
#1876 [06:15] <Cool_guy_mike> ahh okay that makes sense
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#1878 [06:15] <Cool_guy_mike> that explains why my map sizes were increasing
#1879 [06:15] <Cool_guy_mike> the more i played them
#1880 [06:15] <Zenreich> also
#1881 [06:15] <xales> They probably wont go above 10MB unless your doing a lot of crazy stuff
#1882 [06:15] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, if you wanna play multiplayer, which has more functions plus plugins, I've got an Alpha server up
#1883 [06:16] <Zenreich> Not much on the map yet, just a small town, but I'm thinking of building this abov
#1884 [06:16] <Zenreich> e*
#1885 [06:16] <Zenreich> http://www.freecomputerdesktopwallpaper.com/new_wallpaper/Starship_Achilles_from_Stargate_freecomputerdesktopwallpaper_1024.jpg
#1886 [06:16] <xales> Visiiri: what?
#1887 [06:16] <Visiiri> xales, he says that they will deal with it after lunch.
#1888 [06:16] <Cool_guy_mike> yeah ill definitely check it out if its cool with you
#1889 [06:16] <xales> Visiiri: deal with what?
#1890 [06:17] <Visiiri> xales, http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=114489
#1891 [06:17] <Visiiri> Your problem
#1892 [06:17] <Zenreich> Cool_guy_mike, see PM
#1893 [06:17] <xales> Visiiri: thats my problem?
#1894 [06:17] <xales> seems more like a #minecraft problem :P
#1895 [06:17] <xales> also, who is Jeb?
#1896 [06:17] <xales> :P
#1897 [06:18] <Visiiri> Jeb does the art for Mojang
#1898 [06:18] <xales> ah
#1899 [06:18] <xales> I don't think #minecraft is run by Mojang any more
#1900 [06:18] <xales> not much anyway
#1901 [06:18] <Visiiri> Notch has been asking if he should give it to the community and completely stop managing it.
#1902 [06:18] <Visiiri> Maybe that's what he plans to do.
#1903 [06:19] <xales> Visiiri: where did you get contact info for a Mojang employee anyway? I imagine they get so much garbage from community
#1904 [06:19] <xales> Visiiri: notch isnt on the access list any more
#1905 [06:19] <xales> so I guess that he kinda has
#1906 [06:19] <xales> ez is on there though
#1907 [06:19] <Visiiri> xales, well, that doesn't matter
#1908 [06:19] <CruelNoise> Visiiri: i thought that he was the programmer
#1909 [06:19] <CruelNoise> he's working on dyes
#1910 [06:20] <Visiiri> Wellllll
#1911 [06:20] <xales> Visiiri: I'm also going to talk to #minecraft ops too :P
#1912 [06:20] <Visiiri> xales, no, don't
#1913 [06:20] <CruelNoise> they've been talked to
#1914 [06:20] <Visiiri> xales, they've been talked to.
#1915 [06:20] <CruelNoise> I just said that.
#1916 [06:20] <Visiiri> Then they gave TkTech and WedTM ops
#1917 [06:21] <CruelNoise> assholes
#1918 [06:21] <Visiiri> TkTech was banned by Notch and WedTM hasn't been seen in ages
#1919 [06:21] <CruelNoise> who was it that gave those guys OP?
#1920 [06:21] <CruelNoise> quatro?
#1921 [06:21] <Cool_guy_mike> alright im out, sorry for the douchebaggery earlier. thanks to all who helped.
#1922 [06:21] <CruelNoise> hey
#1923 [06:21] <xales> Visiiri: alright then
#1924 [06:21] <CruelNoise> Sorry for being rude to you, man.
#1925 [06:22] <CruelNoise> No hard feelings, k?
#1926 [06:22] <xales> WedTM was on there the other day, wasn't opped
#1927 [06:22] <Cool_guy_mike> for sure man, ill probably be back on tomorrow
#1928 [06:22] <Cool_guy_mike> later
#1929 [06:22] <CruelNoise> cya
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#1931 [06:22] <Zenreich> If you want to convince someone Minecraft isnt all autistic kids building castles
#1932 [06:22] <Zenreich> show him a gigantic 16 bit computer
#1933 [06:23] <Zenreich> :3
#1934 [06:23] <CruelNoise> lol
#1935 [06:23] <Visiiri> I don't have autism, I have OCD
#1936 [06:23] <CruelNoise> Same here -.-
#1937 [06:23] <Visiiri> Also, you made me miss an old friend pretty bad :(
#1938 [06:23] <CruelNoise> miss?
#1939 [06:23] <CruelNoise> as in, you missed talking to him?
#1940 [06:23] <Zenreich> <_> Guy in that 16 bit computer video sounded like he had heavy autism though
#1941 [06:23] <CruelNoise> we made you lose an opportunity to do that?
#1942 [06:23] <CruelNoise> also, where the fuck is mail?
#1943 [06:23] <Zenreich> ^
#1944 [06:23] <Zenreich> I asked that the other day
#1945 [06:23] <CruelNoise> I want to see that guy
#1946 [06:23] <Zenreich> apparently he's been gone for months
#1947 [06:24] <CruelNoise> yeah
#1948 [06:24] <Zenreich> Last place I saw him was Space Station 13
#1949 [06:24] <Zenreich> and I saw his name floating around Cortex Command forums
#1950 [06:24] <CruelNoise> Last seen time: Nov 24 02:48:22 2010 PST
#1951 [06:24] <Visiiri> That was false though
#1952 [06:24] <CruelNoise> false?
#1953 [06:24] <CruelNoise> okay
#1954 [06:24] <Visiiri> if you nick to someone, their last seen time changes
#1955 [06:25] <CruelNoise> even if they don't register?
#1956 [06:25] <CruelNoise> er, identify?
#1957 [06:25] <Visiiri> yup
#1958 [06:25] <Visiiri> That was TVC
#1959 [06:25] <CruelNoise> asshole
#1960 [06:25] <Zenreich> Oi
#1961 [06:25] <Zenreich> CruelNoise, he posted on DataRealms/Cortex Command forums yesterday (22nd)
#1962 [06:25] <CruelNoise> now we've lost this valuable information
#1963 [06:25] <Zenreich> If you wanna contact him, send him a PM there
#1964 [06:25] <Zenreich> http://forums.datarealms.com
#1965 [06:25] <Visiiri> He probably left because of his fatehr
#1966 [06:25] <Visiiri> *father
#1967 [06:25] <CruelNoise> Nah, I don't have Corte
#1968 [06:25] <CruelNoise> x
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#1970 [06:26] <Visiiri> He thought IRC was the devil's baby or summat
#1971 [06:26] <Zenreich> I mean on the forums
#1972 [06:26] <CruelNoise> Zenreich: why don't you PM him on behalf of us, ask him what's up.
#1973 [06:26] <CruelNoise> just casual like
#1974 [06:26] <Visiiri> #minecraft says hello!
#1975 [06:26] <Zenreich> mannn
#1976 [06:26] <CruelNoise> i'm going to go put something nice in my mouth
#1977 [06:27] <Visiiri> CruelNoise,
#1978 [06:27] * Visiiri unzips pants
#1978 [06:27] * Visiiri isn't actually wearing clothes. it's 4:30
#1978 [06:27] * Visiiri AM
#1978 [06:27] <xales> CruelNoise: ty for your post btw <3
#1979 [06:27] * fogWraith takes out the bamboo stick and whips Visiiri's legs
#1979 [06:27] <xales> Visiiri: where did you get Jeb's contact info? did you ever answer me? :P
#1980 [06:28] <Zenreich> CruelNoise, I'll PM him for you if you fix my carpal tunnel
#1981 [06:28] <Visiiri> xales, 1337 H4X0R skills
#1982 [06:28] <xales> real answer pl0x?
#1983 [06:28] <Visiiri> xales, 1337 H4X0R skills
#1984 [06:28] <xales> real answer pl0x?
#1985 [06:28] <Visiiri> xales, 1337 H4X0R skills
#1986 [06:28] <xales> kk
#1987 [06:28] <Visiiri> I know deadmau5, too
#1988 [06:28] <Visiiri> Whitelisted on his Minecraft server
#1989 [06:28] <xales> seeing as you said "after lunch," sounds like you know him :P
#1990 [06:29] <xales> based on how you stated it, rather than saying "later"
#1991 [06:29] <Visiiri> I think I am going to take a trip to Sweden this summer
#1992 [06:29] <xales> it shows you are aware of what time it is where he is
#1993 [06:29] <xales> :P
#1994 [06:29] <Visiiri> xales, I am actually God, and I know what you look like naked
#1995 [06:29] <Zenreich> ffff.
#1996 [06:29] <xales> Visiiri: you no longer have eyes
#1997 [06:29] <Zenreich> CruelNoise, need to post a bit before I have PM permission on the forums <_>
#1998 [06:29] <fogWraith> Jeb's contact info isn't that hard to get ahold of
#1999 [06:29] <fogWraith> ;P
#2000 [06:30] <xales> fogWraith: I haven't exactly looked
#2001 [06:30] <xales> though its more surprising that he responded to Visiiri
#2002 [06:30] <xales> but then again, I havent talked to him, so I wouldn't know
#2003 [06:30] <xales> because if I worked for Mojang, last thing I want is a bunch of fanbois stalking me 24/7
#2004 [06:30] <CruelNoise> oh, xales, you're welcome <3
#2005 [06:30] <Visiiri> I stalk deadmau5 now
#2006 [06:30] <CruelNoise> Visiiri: silly
#2007 [06:30] <Visiiri> Before, I thought he was just a person
#2008 [06:31] <CruelNoise> now
#2009 [06:31] <Visiiri> Now that I've met him, he's a manbitch and I love it because he's just like me
#2010 [06:31] <CruelNoise> you're the man who hugged Tim McIlrath
#2011 [06:31] <CruelNoise> anyways
#2012 [06:31] <CruelNoise> I'll see if I can't get iguana to PM him, Zenreich
#2013 [06:31] <Visiiri> That's one of those things
#2014 [06:32] <CruelNoise> So, have you ever talked to him?
#2015 [06:32] <Visiiri> Nope
#2016 [06:32] <Visiiri> was just the hug
#2017 [06:32] <CruelNoise> I meant Deadmau5
#2018 [06:32] <Visiiri> Oh yeah
#2019 [06:32] <xales> CruelNoise: you people know this community a lot better than I do. I have no idea who you are talking about :P
#2020 [06:32] <Visiiri> we played Minecraft
#2021 [06:32] <Visiiri> Shared with him my music
#2022 [06:32] <Visiiri> He called me a dick when I pushed him off of a tower and stole his pickaxe
#2023 [06:32] <Visiiri> etc etc
#2024 [06:32] <xales> though im fairly new I guess
#2025 [06:32] <CruelNoise> hehe
#2026 [06:32] <xales> Visiiri: congrats
#2027 [06:32] <xales> :P
#2028 [06:32] <Visiiri> uhhh, deadmau5 is a musical genius
#2029 [06:33] <CruelNoise> xales: how long've you been playing?
#2030 [06:33] <Visiiri> Tim McIlrath is the greatest singer ever
#2031 [06:33] <xales> ive heard of deadmau5
#2032 [06:33] <CruelNoise> now, you are to become a molding of the two, vis.
#2033 [06:33] <xales> CruelNoise: about a month I guess
#2034 [06:33] <Visiiri> I wish
#2035 [06:33] <CruelNoise> also, find tim, tell him that you hugged him when you were twelve, and get him on this bandwagon.
#2036 [06:33] <xales> god
#2037 [06:33] <Visiiri> I sing like an elephant surrounded by mice and midgets in blenders
#2038 [06:33] <xales> i just realized
#2039 [06:34] <xales> im gonna somehow get dragged into having some respnsibility in minecraft community
#2040 [06:34] <CruelNoise> are you in Snowman's christmas project?
#2041 [06:34] <xales> and im not gonna say no because im a pussy
#2042 [06:34] <CruelNoise> xales: nah
#2043 [06:34] <xales> and im gonna be pissed off at myself
#2044 [06:34] <CruelNoise> if you don't want to.
#2045 [06:34] <xales> this happens too much
#2046 [06:34] <CruelNoise> well, actually, you are an experienced administrator
#2047 [06:34] * CruelNoise laughs evilly.
#2047 [06:34] <xales> I never volunteer for things, I wait till im asked
#2048 [06:34] <xales> and i dont usually say no, sadly
#2049 [06:34] <xales> at least i dont volunteer
#2050 [06:34] <CruelNoise> yeah
#2051 [06:35] <CruelNoise> the only administritave positions I have:
#2052 [06:35] <CruelNoise> I am technically an admin on a HL2DM server, even though the clan was killed, reformed, and killed again
#2053 [06:35] <CruelNoise> I can still go to console and type admin.
#2054 [06:35] <xales> ive done just about everything IRC-related, and I run my own server. I also am, in my mind, an amazing programmer. thats really about all
#2055 [06:36] <Visiiri> I administrate the night shift at McDonalds
#2056 [06:36] <CruelNoise> I am also an OP in my other gaming community's IRC channel
#2057 [06:36] <Visiiri> That's it though
#2058 [06:36] <xales> oh, and I am a linux guru, but nobody cares about that these days
#2059 [06:36] <CruelNoise> xales: I do <3
#2060 [06:36] <xales> CruelNoise: <3
#2061 [06:36] <CruelNoise> <33
#2062 [06:36] <xales> all these idiots with their "macs" T_T
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#2064 [06:36] <CruelNoise> Macs are Unix
#2065 [06:36] <xales> I know
#2066 [06:36] <fogWraith> Why thank you, xales
#2067 [06:36] <CruelNoise> makes me cringe
#2068 [06:36] <lukegb> Macs are BSD
#2069 [06:36] <CruelNoise> lol
#2070 [06:37] <xales> but there are people in #minecraft lke
#2071 [06:37] <CruelNoise> lukegb: which is Unix, silly
#2072 [06:37] <xales> "im so cool i have a mac and i take shit from windows users"
#2073 [06:37] <lukegb> I was being more specific :P
#2074 [06:37] <xales> "xales: i use linux :P"
#2075 [06:37] <xales> "mac user: fuck you"
#2076 [06:37] <CruelNoise> heh
#2077 [06:37] <Visiiri> I would use Linux
#2078 [06:37] <Visiiri> but I have no reason to
#2079 [06:37] <Visiiri> :P
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#2081 [06:37] <xales> Visiiri: unfortunately I do :(
#2082 [06:37] <CruelNoise> I saw a guy say "Linux is only good for hosting servers"
#2083 [06:37] <xales> I like developing in C
#2084 [06:37] <lukegb> Macs are Darwin.
#2085 [06:37] <xales> and windows stdlib is crap
#2086 [06:37] * fogWraith works wit ze Macs
#2086 [06:37] <CruelNoise> lukegb: actually, they use bash now.
#2087 [06:37] <xales> CruelNoise: yeah, thats one of the guys
#2088 [06:37] * lukegb mallocs xales to death
#2088 [06:38] * xales free() free()!!!!!
#2088 [06:38] <CruelNoise> ONe thing I can say about mac is that it did get me in a Unix terminal long before I would have been otherwise.
#2089 [06:38] <lukegb> Err
#2090 [06:38] <xales> CruelNoise: I'm not saying anything is wrong with Macs
#2091 [06:38] <CruelNoise> It also got me interested into using linux
#2092 [06:38] <xales> just a good portion of their community
#2093 [06:38] <lukegb> CruelNoise: bash as a kernel? Interesting.
#2094 [06:39] <CruelNoise> lukegb: I have no idea what you nor I am talking about.
#2095 [06:39] <fogWraith> xales: that's true, to be honest
#2096 [06:39] <lukegb> CruelNoise: Darwin's the OS X/iOS kernel.
#2097 [06:39] <CruelNoise> Thank you.
#2098 [06:39] <fogWraith> But then again, the platform zealots need to die in righteous fire
#2099 [06:40] <xales> fogWraith: I like to be a platform zealot, in that I fight for the forces of fact and not stupid people who believe what stupid trolls post
#2100 [06:40] <CruelNoise> FACT is my platform!~
#2101 [06:40] <xales> lol
#2102 [06:40] <xales> and I really dont care about your opinion
#2103 [06:40] <Visiiri> "The Steam Subscriber Agreement has been updated as of Tuesday, November 08, 2005. By using Steam and Steam games you are stating that you h ave read and agree with these changes."
#2104 [06:41] <xales> as long as you arent a douche towards me, my OS of choice (Debian and Gentoo Linux), my programming language of choice (C), my editor of choice (vim), and lets see...
#2105 [06:41] <xales> I cant think of anything else
#2106 [06:41] <xales> so im just like most of the linux community
#2107 [06:41] <xales> idle until someone fucks with me
#2108 [06:41] <xales> then I fuck back, only harder
#2109 [06:41] <fogWraith> Personally, I find vim to be shit, keep it simple yao
#2110 [06:41] <CruelNoise> One thing scares me
#2111 [06:41] <xales> vim is simple <3
#2112 [06:42] <xales> just gotta get used to it
#2113 [06:42] <CruelNoise> I have never actually read the steam subscriber agreement in its entirety.
#2114 [06:42] <fogWraith> I'm sure it is :P
#2115 [06:42] <xales> CruelNoise: I dont read em any more, they all say the same thing
#2116 [06:42] <xales> actually I think i read the steam one
#2117 [06:42] <xales> I reported some idiots who "worked for valve"
#2118 [06:42] <xales> lol
#2119 [06:42] <CruelNoise> lol
#2120 [06:43] <fogWraith> In the spirits of the holiday.... needs moar nicotine & alcoholz!
#2121 [06:43] * fogWraith runs
#2121 [06:43] * xales chases
#2121 [06:43] <lukegb> xales: durhurhur Debian's for noobisgyruknds
#2122 [06:43] * fogWraith shrieks and takes a sharp left
#2122 [06:43] * xales falls over from sleep deprivation
#2122 [06:43] * lukegb is there, in front of him
#2122 [06:43] <xales> lukegb: <3
#2123 [06:43] <fogWraith> ;O
#2124 [06:43] * lukegb props up xales against a wall
#2124 [06:44] * lukegb pulls a lever
#2124 [06:44] * xales is thankful
#2124 [06:44] <lukegb> Oh crap! Redstone isn't working
#2125 [06:44] <lukegb> My trapdoor failed!
#2126 [06:44] <xales> </notchtrolling>
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#2132 [06:58] <pedra> hi
#2133 [06:58] <pedra> hmm
#2134 [06:58] <xales> hi
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#2137 [06:59] <Themen> Hello
#2138 [07:00] <pedra> the MindCraft Server folder got deleted when the power on my computer got off....
#2139 [07:00] <pedra> and
#2140 [07:00] <pedra> when i downloaded it again
#2141 [07:00] <pedra> and did all the stuff
#2142 [07:00] <Themen> Who can help me with a payment problem
#2143 [07:00] <pedra> and i whent in on the server
#2144 [07:00] <pedra> all i did re don
#2145 [07:01] <pedra> itself
#2146 [07:01] <xales> Themen: whats the problem?
#2147 [07:01] <xales> pedra: it depends. look and see
#2148 [07:01] <xales> minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2149 [07:01] <Themen> I paid for: bolledebol Friday but no premium
#2150 [07:01] <xales> Themen: via paypal?
#2151 [07:02] <Themen> yes
#2152 [07:02] <pedra> when i woodcut the tree it re-done it self/i cant do anything
#2153 [07:02] <Themen> witch jeffrey.hoekman@ziggo.nl
#2154 [07:02] <xales> pedra: what is the problem again?
#2155 [07:03] <xales> Themen: email payment@mojang.com (I think thats the right email), and include the paypal transaction ID and the account you bought it for
#2156 [07:04] <pedra> is it a comand i need to write? ewerything re-do itseld
#2157 [07:04] <pedra> when i cut trees it just get back
#2158 [07:05] <Con> You need to move away from the spawn point
#2159 [07:05] <pedra> ohh
#2160 [07:05] <pedra> i'll try
#2161 [07:05] <pedra> ty again :)
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#2165 [07:10] <Tsooj> hello there, quick question; is, or will minecraft to be purchased by other means then via paypal?
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#2167 [07:10] <xales> Tsooj: you can pay directly via credit card
#2168 [07:10] <xales> but thats about it
#2169 [07:11] <Tsooj> yeah that doesn't work either, my paypal account has been hacked or something and my credit card account can't be used on that site anymore :/
#2170 [07:11] <xales> I have no idea what future plans will be, but I'd imagine they wont add any pay-by-mail or or check anytime soon
#2171 [07:11] <xales> Tsooj: you can pay not through paypal, by credit card
#2172 [07:11] <Tsooj> would be cool if it would come on steam ^^
#2173 [07:11] <Tsooj> ah, how does one do that?
#2174 [07:12] <xales> Tsooj: one moment
#2175 [07:12] <xales> I know there is an option to do it on the purchase gift codes page
#2176 [07:13] <Tsooj> hmm ok
#2177 [07:13] <Tsooj> ahh found it!
#2178 [07:13] <Tsooj> neat
#2179 [07:13] <Tsooj> ill give it a try
#2180 [07:14] <xales> ok
#2181 [07:14] * Legacy is now known as LG_Legacy
#2182 [07:15] <Tsooj> seems i need my randomreader I'll try it when I get home, cheers :)
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#2186 [07:16] <bluegerman> Can I get here help?
#2187 [07:17] <xales> yes
#2188 [07:17] <bluegerman> Cool :)
#2189 [07:17] <xales> what can I help you with?
#2190 [07:17] * Con was in the middle of typing "We don't serve help in the help channel"
#2190 [07:18] <bluegerman> Since yesterday I cant join my private server. Game is crashing or i get error messages (but never the same)
#2191 [07:18] <xales> bluegerman: what error messages specifically?
#2192 [07:18] <xales> and, can you play single player
#2193 [07:19] <bluegerman> Yes| Or i join -> 2sek free fall -> error | Some messages:Internal exception: java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 164 Internal exception: java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 189 Internal exception: java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 4
#2194 [07:20] <xales> bluegerman: sounds like a problem with a firewall or a bad connection
#2195 [07:21] <bluegerman> I changed nothing
#2196 [07:21] <xales> can you try with your firewall turned off, if you have one?
#2197 [07:21] <bluegerman> That is the problem :)
#2198 [07:21] * zz_GLawayDOS is now known as GLaDOS
#2199 [07:21] <xales> bluegerman: it may have been an update that your software performed without your knowledge
#2200 [07:21] <xales> they tend to do that
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#2203 [07:24] <CruelNoise> Hey!
#2204 [07:24] <CruelNoise> Look!
#2205 [07:24] <CruelNoise> An OP!
#2206 [07:24] <xales> 2 actually
#2207 [07:24] <xales> :P
#2208 [07:24] <GLaDOS> no, no
#2209 [07:24] <GLaDOS> i no give you op
#2210 [07:24] <CruelNoise> =(
#2211 [07:25] <CruelNoise> =D
#2212 [07:25] <bluegerman> Hmm nope. Now i tried again and i get a error report
#2213 [07:25] <bluegerman> Can i post it here?
#2214 [07:25] <CruelNoise> pastebin.com is preferable
#2215 [07:25] <xales> bluegerman: no, use pastebin please
#2216 [07:25] <bluegerman> Can someone help me ? :(
#2217 [07:25] <xales> bluegerman: yes
#2218 [07:25] <xales> please post the error report on pastebin.com
#2219 [07:25] <xales> and give us the link
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#2221 [07:26] <bluegerman> http://mibpaste.com/bVcf0X
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#2223 [07:27] <bluegerman> Serverlog: bluegerman lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#2224 [07:27] <pedra> hmm
#2225 [07:27] <pedra> cant write onn my server..
#2226 [07:27] <xales> bluegerman: it looks like the server may be having issues
#2227 [07:27] <xales> try restarting the server
#2228 [07:28] <bluegerman> Same problem :)
#2229 [07:28] <xales> bluegerman: can you connect to other servers?
#2230 [07:28] <bluegerman> Yes I can.
#2231 [07:29] <bluegerman> Are there new server files?
#2232 [07:29] <xales> then the problem is with your server
#2233 [07:29] <xales> make sure the server is up to date
#2234 [07:29] <xales> you can download the latest version from minecraft.net
#2235 [07:29] <mbentley> !server
#2236 [07:29] <pedra> okk ty and one more thing
#2237 [07:30] <pedra> [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#2238 [07:30] <pedra> this come upp
#2239 [07:30] <mbentley> bluegerman: i get the 'genericReason' error and get kicked from my server like every 10 minutes or so
#2240 [07:30] <xales> pedra: then there is already a server running
#2241 [07:30] <pedra> i was on the server just a sec ago
#2242 [07:30] <xales> you must shut down the one already running before you can run a new one
#2243 [07:30] <mbentley> or you don't have the correct ip address enterered in the server.properties file
#2244 [07:30] <pedra> ohh
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#2246 [07:32] <bluegerman> Same error
#2247 [07:32] <xales> bluegerman: can you check if someone else can connect to your server?
#2248 [07:32] <xales> also, make sure that it has enough memory allocated, and check the server console
#2249 [07:32] <bluegerman> Internal exception: java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 2
#2250 [07:33] <mbentley> might open task manager and see if there are any 'java' processes running
#2251 [07:33] <xales> bluegerman: it may be that your map is corrupted. you may need to delete it
#2252 [07:33] <mbentley> eh, wouldn't jump to that yet
#2253 [07:33] <bluegerman> @map I thought that ,too. But i started a new one
#2254 [07:33] <xales> mbentley: utfdataformatexception is probably from the thing deserializing the map data, or data from something
#2255 [07:33] <xales> bluegerman: are you running any plugins?
#2256 [07:34] <bluegerman> I have 2 types (2 folders). The normal and the server addon Hey0 Server. I cant start both
#2257 [07:35] <mbentley> are you still getting the '[WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address...' error as well?
#2258 [07:35] <xales> bluegerman: hey0 isn't updated, so you will not be able to connect to a server running hey0 until the public version supports beta
#2259 [07:35] <bluegerman> Only as client. Not in the server log
#2260 [07:36] <bluegerman> So i have to wait for an update?
#2261 [07:36] <xales> bluegerman: if are getting that as client, make sure you dont have more than one minecraft open
#2262 [07:36] <mbentley> to run hmod yes
#2263 [07:36] <xales> bluegerman: you have to wait for an update to run hmod
#2264 [07:36] <mbentley> 07:33 < mbentley> might open task manager and see if there are any 'java' processes running
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#2266 [07:37] <bluegerman> But i cant start the normal one too
#2267 [07:37] <mbentley> bluegerman: ^^^^^
#2268 [07:37] <bluegerman> javaw.exe
#2269 [07:37] <mbentley> that would be a java process
#2270 [07:37] <bluegerman> I think so too :)
#2271 [07:37] <mbentley> might try to kill it if you believe all of your minecraft processes are stopped
#2272 [07:38] <bluegerman> If I close all minecraft programms. Those processes are closed too (javaw.exe)
#2273 [07:38] <mbentley> right as they should
#2274 [07:39] * Con pokes Kealper with a large poking stick
#2274 [07:39] * Con pokes Kealper with a long poking stick
#2274 [07:40] <mbentley> ok bluegerman, now that they are all closed, might try starting your server
#2275 [07:40] <pedra> "illegal charakter inn chat" i got the gesenge after sending ... in my server
#2276 [07:41] <bluegerman> Dont work same error
#2277 [07:41] <bluegerman> Internal exception: java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 6
#2278 [07:41] <bluegerman> With the newest server version (normal)
#2279 [07:41] <bluegerman> Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.1_02
#2280 [07:41] <mbentley> ok, might try renaming the world directory then trying to start it up. that would check to see if the world is corrupt as xales mentioned
#2281 [07:43] <bluegerman> Hmm now -> 2 sek free fall -> Minecraft has crashed [...] error
#2282 [07:44] <bluegerman> [INFO] bluegerman lost connection: disconnect.endOfStream
#2283 [07:44] <mbentley> but does the server run?
#2284 [07:44] <bluegerman> Yes
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#2286 [07:44] <mbentley> ok, having a hard time trying to figure out where these errors you mention are coming from :)
#2287 [07:45] <bluegerman> You saw the error log on pastebin?
#2288 [07:46] <mbentley> looking at it now
#2289 [07:46] <mbentley> is that the same error you are seeing with the client?
#2290 [07:46] <bluegerman> Yes only the last number changes
#2291 [07:46] <bluegerman> byte [NUMBER]
#2292 [07:47] <mbentley> hmm, you might want to try to delete the client files so it will redownload them
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#2294 [07:47] <bluegerman> Oh now i get Bad packet id 19
#2295 [07:47] <mbentley> there is something odd going on...
#2296 [07:48] <xales> mbentley: he said he could connect to other servers
#2297 [07:48] <mbentley> ah
#2298 [07:48] <xales> so maybe the server.jar is corrupt? :/
#2299 [07:50] <bluegerman> I think i will delete all and reinstall all
#2300 [07:50] <bluegerman> I hope that will be work :)
#2301 [07:50] <xales> bluegerman: logically, that should work
#2302 [07:51] <bluegerman> I think so too :)
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#2305 [07:54] <bluegerman> Hmm this is not working. Again a java error. I try to update java. But I did it yesterday
#2306 [07:55] <mbentley> yeah, you have the latest java
#2307 [07:55] <xales> bluegerman: does your system have enough resources to run minecraft?
#2308 [07:55] <bluegerman> Hmm yes I see. So something else is wrong.
#2309 [07:55] <bluegerman> Sure. Intel Quad Core. 4 GB Ram
#2310 [07:56] <xales> when you connect to your server what address do you use?
#2311 [07:56] <bluegerman> Local adress
#2312 [07:56] <xales> is it "localhost" or "127.0.0.1"?
#2313 [07:56] <kontroll> How do I make windows?
#2314 [07:56] <kontroll> Not glass, windows. Buddy says they added it.
#2315 [07:56] <kontroll> "they"
#2316 [07:56] <bluegerman> 127.0.0.1
#2317 [07:56] <mbentley> windows = glass
#2318 [07:56] <xales> kontroll: there is no "windows" just glass
#2319 [07:56] <kontroll> He's a liar then.
#2320 [07:57] <mbentley> or is using a texture pack
#2321 [07:57] <xales> bluegerman: did you try redownloading the server?
#2322 [07:57] <mbentley> where glass looks different
#2323 [07:57] <bluegerman> How can I do that?
#2324 [07:57] <kontroll> No, he said a new crafting thing was added.
#2325 [07:57] <kontroll> Still saying it, actually.
#2326 [07:57] <xales> kontroll, it was not
#2327 [07:57] <mbentley> tell your friend to quit trolling you ;)
#2328 [07:58] <mbentley> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting
#2329 [07:58] <bluegerman> Wow it works
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#2331 [07:59] <mbentley> what did you end up doing?
#2332 [08:00] <kontroll> I know that page, mbentley.
#2333 [08:00] <kontroll> :P
#2334 [08:00] <xales> redownloading server. corrupt jar it seems
#2335 [08:00] <bluegerman> You are all crazy thaaaaaaaaaaanks :D And hey0 server is working too.
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#2337 [08:00] <xales> bluegerman: no problem
#2338 [08:01] <bluegerman> I cant connect with my local ip
#2339 [08:01] <xales> bluegerman: is the server running?
#2340 [08:01] <bluegerman> Year
#2341 [08:02] <bluegerman> Local ip dont work but with the other.
#2342 [08:02] <xales> make sure it is configured
#2343 [08:02] <xales> in server.properties
#2344 [08:02] <bluegerman> But yesterday i joined with my local ip.
#2345 [08:02] <bluegerman> And that works
#2346 [08:03] <mbentley> in most cases, not specifying an IP to bind to works best unless you have multiple network interfaces
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#2348 [08:04] <bluegerman> Thanks for your time and your help. Merry christmas and a happy new year @all Byeeeeeeeeee and thanks again :)
#2349 [08:05] <Con> :D
#2350 [08:06] <xales> :)
#2351 [08:06] <bluegerman> Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :)
#2352 [08:06] <xales> bye
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#2356 [08:14] <ZerOmega> http://fox.naurunappula.com/nn/1/483/487/s_minecraft_671765.jpg
#2357 [08:15] <mbentley> lol wow
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#2364 [08:25] <FaliorPyrova_> Hello, i try to connect to beta servers from my minecraft acc, but all of them give me the error: Failed to verify username
#2365 [08:26] <xales> FaliorPyrova_: can you play single player fine?
#2366 [08:26] * FaliorPyrova_ is now known as FaliorPyrova
#2367 [08:26] <FaliorPyrova> lets see
#2368 [08:26] <Con> mc.net's name verification servers are either down or not recognising your username
#2369 [08:26] <FaliorPyrova> yep
#2370 [08:26] <Con> *server
#2371 [08:27] <FaliorPyrova> i've had this problem all the time
#2372 [08:27] <FaliorPyrova> someone gave me a giftcode for it 2 days ago
#2373 [08:27] <xales> FaliorPyrova: what is your username on minecraft.net?
#2374 [08:27] <FaliorPyrova> FaliorPyrova
#2375 [08:27] <xales> says you are registered as premium
#2376 [08:27] <FaliorPyrova> yeah
#2377 [08:28] <xales> its not something we can help you with, most likely
#2378 [08:28] <xales> it could be that your not completely registered
#2379 [08:28] <FaliorPyrova> but how do i get it fixed
#2380 [08:28] <FaliorPyrova> weird
#2381 [08:28] <xales> email support@mojang.com with a detailed description of the problem
#2382 [08:28] <ZerOmega> ask your friendly neughbourhood nerd
#2383 [08:28] <FaliorPyrova> ok thanks xales
#2384 [08:28] <xales> include your username, and when you bought Minecraft (approx date)
#2385 [08:28] <mbentley> i thought that is what we were here for ZerOmega
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#2389 [08:33] <ZerOmega> I'm here just for the laughs
#2390 [08:33] <ZerOmega> and the fact that I probably share the problem with Falior here .___.
#2391 [08:34] <xales> ZerOmega: support@mojang.com
#2392 [08:34] <xales> away!
#2393 [08:34] <ZerOmega> But I think the problem is at my end
#2394 [08:34] <ZerOmega> yes
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#2396 [08:35] <Zenreich> LG_Legacy: just a protip, next time you have someone in here demanding a refund saying MC sux and is for aspies
#2397 [08:35] <king_chaos> Hi there! I was wondering if it's able to use login with more than 1 computer at a time with one account if i where to buy the game
#2398 [08:35] <LG_Legacy> ?
#2399 [08:36] <Zenreich> LG_Legacy: give them this youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkkyKZVzug
#2400 [08:36] <xales> king_chaos: you cant use the same account more than once. well, you can. but its a bug, and will be removed soon
#2401 [08:36] <lukegb> king_chaos: yes.
#2402 [08:36] <lukegb> xales: it will be? :O
#2403 [08:36] <lukegb> :p
#2404 [08:36] <xales> you can use more than 1 computer
#2405 [08:36] <xales> just not at the same time
#2406 [08:36] <xales> IE, you cannot share it with 10 friends and play with them
#2407 [08:36] <lukegb> He plans to stop this how?
#2408 [08:36] <lukegb> Ohh
#2409 [08:36] <king_chaos> and with 1 friend?
#2410 [08:36] <lukegb> Well yeah
#2411 [08:36] <xales> however, you can play minecraft with your account on however many computers you like
#2412 [08:36] <xales> just not simultaneously
#2413 [08:36] <lukegb> You can't play on the same server
#2414 [08:36] <Zenreich> LG_Legacy, had a guy here bitching being a huge douche and such earlier and I showed him this and he nerdgasm'd :v
#2415 [08:36] <lukegb> At the same time
#2416 [08:37] <king_chaos> oke, that;s what i needed to know! thanks for your time!
#2417 [08:37] <Zenreich> also helo LG_Legacy, its been ages
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#2419 [08:37] <LG_Legacy> Obviously
#2420 [08:37] <LG_Legacy> I don't know you
#2421 [08:37] <Zenreich> ofc
#2422 [08:37] <xales> LG_Legacy: lack of ops and serious douchebaggery spiralled into hell, people called ircops, ircops said go away, it was bad
#2423 [08:37] <Zenreich> xales, but it resulted in getting someone interested in MC rather than a ban
#2424 [08:37] <Zenreich> :3
#2425 [08:37] <LG_Legacy> Whar
#2426 [08:38] <xales> I ended up trying to be useful and posted this (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=114489) but Im too tired to be useful
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#2428 [08:38] <xales> Zenreich: after prompting of 30 people over 10 hours
#2429 [08:38] <Zenreich> xales, well you were trolling him the whole time
#2430 [08:38] <xales> Zenreich: I troll trolls
#2431 [08:38] <xales> it amuses me
#2432 [08:38] <xales> its hard to find good amusement on IRC
#2433 [08:38] <Zenreich> He wasnt a troll he was just needlessly raging
#2434 [08:38] <xales> I like looking at peoples usernames too
#2435 [08:39] <Zenreich> anyway
#2436 [08:39] <xales> Zenreich: similar enough to have same entertaining outcome
#2437 [08:39] <Zenreich> LG_Legacy, last time I saw you I was an op on that lava fall server on classic
#2438 [08:39] <megadud> hi
#2439 [08:39] <Zenreich> helo
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#2441 [08:40] <megadud> im trying to plant a bunch of trees... how far should i spread them out?
#2442 [08:40] <xales> megadud: http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tree
#2443 [08:40] <megadud> thanks
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#2448 [08:48] <xales> Con: your irc client is nuts with CTCP :P
#2449 [08:48] <Con> bahahahaha
#2450 [08:48] <Con> CTCP me = doom
#2451 [08:49] <xales> tis only 3
#2452 [08:49] <xales> your missing a few
#2453 [08:49] <Con> huh?
#2454 [08:49] <Con> What am I missing?
#2455 [08:49] <LG_Legacy> YEEAAAHHHH
#2456 [08:49] <xales> USERINFO
#2457 [08:49] <xales> and some other stuff
#2458 [08:49] <xales> i dont know off the top of my head
#2459 [08:49] <xales> LG_Legacy: ?
#2460 [08:50] <LG_Legacy> Nothing
#2461 [08:50] <LG_Legacy> I'm annoying con is all
#2462 [08:50] <LG_Legacy> :3
#2463 [08:50] <Con> LG, rarwtyuizor.
#2464 [08:50] <xales> LG_Legacy: lol
#2465 [08:50] <xales> Con: 08:50 [espernet] [ctcp(xales)] USERINFO
#2466 [08:50] <xales> 08:50 [espernet] xales [xales@darksigns.net] requested CTCP USERINFO from xales:
#2467 [08:50] <LG_Legacy> Funny thing is that you can't do it back.
#2468 [08:50] <xales> 08:50 [espernet] CTCP USERINFO reply from xales: xales
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#2470 [08:50] <Con> hmm
#2471 [08:50] <Con> You're pinging me?
#2472 [08:50] <LG_Legacy> :l
#2473 [08:50] <xales> I tried it to you, mirc doesnt like userinfo :P
#2474 [08:51] <LG_Legacy> Userinfo?
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#2476 [08:51] <Con> And it's killing everything?
#2477 [08:51] <xales> LG_Legacy: CTCP, most GUI clients dont implement it
#2478 [08:51] <LG_Legacy> Don't you mean nickserv info?
#2479 [08:51] <xales> userinfo anyway
#2480 [08:51] <xales> LG_Legacy: nope, USERINFO is a CTCP
#2481 [08:51] <LG_Legacy> Strange
#2482 [08:51] <LG_Legacy> i don't have it
#2483 [08:51] <xales> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client-To-Client_Protocol
#2484 [08:51] <LG_Legacy> Oh well
#2485 [08:51] <xales> you do :D
#2486 [08:51] <LG_Legacy> I don
#2487 [08:51] <LG_Legacy> I don't trust me
#2488 [08:52] <xales> 99% of irc clients have it
#2489 [08:52] <LG_Legacy> This is that 1%
#2490 [08:52] <xales> huh, maybe you dont have it. lol, your client didn't respond to version
#2491 [08:52] <LG_Legacy> A really old client.
#2492 [08:52] <xales> what are you running? lol
#2493 [08:52] <LG_Legacy> Not telling
#2494 [08:52] <LG_Legacy> :P
#2495 [08:52] <xales> I think IrcII has ctcp support
#2496 [08:52] <xales> -_-
#2497 [08:52] <LG_Legacy> Since you can't version me you'll never find out.
#2498 [08:53] <xales> LG_Legacy: I have your ip, i can track you down :P
#2499 [08:53] <xales> ill be the next person ringing your doorbell
#2500 [08:53] <LG_Legacy> OH NOES. A IP THAT LEADS TO A COMPANY.
#2501 [08:53] <xales> excuse me while i buy a plane ticket
#2502 [08:53] <LG_Legacy> Yeah, try me.
#2503 [08:53] <Con> LG, you are a slizard!
#2504 [08:53] <Con> YOU ARE A SLIZARD
#2505 [08:53] <LG_Legacy> I'm always a Slizard :l
#2506 [08:53] <Con> YOU CAN'T DENY IT
#2507 [08:53] <LG_Legacy> Hm interesting..
#2508 [08:53] <xales> http://www.maxmind.com/app/locate_demo_ip?ips=66-227-202-118.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com
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#2510 [08:54] <xales> Oxford MI?
#2511 [08:54] <LG_Legacy> Wait for it to load
#2512 [08:54] <LG_Legacy> Lol oxford
#2513 [08:54] <LG_Legacy> My ip is so fucked up it can't deciede my own city
#2514 [08:54] <xales> lol
#2515 [08:54] <LG_Legacy> OXFORD, BRANDON, ORTONVILLE, WATERFORD.
#2516 [08:54] <LG_Legacy> Pick a fucking city
#2517 [08:54] <LG_Legacy> But yeah that link don't work for me
#2518 [08:54] <xales> strange
#2519 [08:55] <xales> using a browser as old as your irc client? :P
#2520 [08:55] <LG_Legacy> Opera
#2521 [08:55] <xales> hmm well
#2522 [08:55] <xales> i dunno then
#2523 [08:55] <LG_Legacy> why the hell is it displaying at Hummer Lake? Hm..
#2524 [08:56] <LG_Legacy> Yeah that ip is nowhere near me
#2525 [08:56] <LG_Legacy> Funny.
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#2527 [08:57] <xales> LG_Legacy: cheater
#2528 [08:57] <LG_Legacy> :l
#2529 [08:57] <xales> all of us uber h4x0rs on irc cant h4x0r you now
#2530 [08:57] <xales> :(
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#2533 [08:58] <LG_Legacy> Huh, i'm a pretty ways away from that area.
#2534 [08:58] <LG_Legacy> Oh well
#2535 [08:58] <megadud> hello?
#2536 [08:58] <xales> megadud: hello
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#2538 [08:59] <DigDug> hey all
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#2540 [08:59] <xales> hello DigDug
#2541 [08:59] <DigDug> i cant seemtoupdate my server, anyoneelse getting the same problem?
#2542 [08:59] <megadud> I was wondering... is there any way to make wha is now world one become bot one and two?
#2543 [08:59] <xales> DigDug: you need to redownload from minecraft.net
#2544 [08:59] <Con> DigDug: Server updates are manual
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#2546 [08:59] <xales> megadud: yes, there is
#2547 [09:00] <DigDug> yeah i know, but when i goto download it, I keep getting the wrong server software to download
#2548 [09:00] <xales> I'll let Con explain how to do it
#2549 [09:00] <xales> DigDug: it says alpha, however, it is the right one
#2550 [09:00] <megadud> k
#2551 [09:00] <DigDug> ok Ill try again
#2552 [09:00] <Con> Me?
#2553 [09:00] <Con> Explain?
#2554 [09:00] <xales> yes Con
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#2558 [09:03] <megadud> con?
#2559 [09:03] <xales> Con
#2560 [09:03] <xales> explain
#2561 [09:03] <Blue_Star> are any system behind the water how it works ?
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#2563 [09:03] <Con> bot one and two?
#2564 [09:04] <xales> http://forums.redstonewire.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=34433&view=unread
#2565 [09:04] <xales> Blue_Star: yes
#2566 [09:04] <xales> Blue_Star: http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Water
#2567 [09:04] <megadud> or just move it to world two... or just like copy it to two
#2568 [09:04] <xales> Con: google is your friend
#2569 [09:04] <xales> http://forums.redstonewire.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=34433&view=unread
#2570 [09:04] <DigDug> it wont work
#2571 [09:05] <xales> Digdug
#2572 [09:05] <xales> !server
#2573 [09:05] <xales> or is the problem something else?
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#2575 [09:06] <Blue_Star> xales ok thx maybe this will be answered some question i have ...damm water :D
#2576 [09:06] <DigDug> i dont understand that
#2577 [09:06] <xales> DigDug: ?
#2578 [09:06] <DigDug> when i goto the page to download it, i get a totally different version
#2579 [09:06] <xales> DigDug: the site says alpha, but the version is the beta version
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#2581 [09:06] <DigDug> weird still
#2582 [09:07] <DigDug> when i Dl'd it, it was a different one
#2583 [09:07] <xales> are you downloading the EXE or jar?
#2584 [09:07] <DigDug> exe
#2585 [09:08] <xales> try this link
#2586 [09:08] <xales> http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe?v=1293113237324
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#2588 [09:08] <DigDug> well i got it now, but when i manually goto the site to get it, I downloaded a totally different version, and it wont just open right up
#2589 [09:09] <DigDug> it wants meto use something to open it
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#2591 [09:09] <xales> DigDug: then you downloaded the wrong thing I think
#2592 [09:09] <DigDug> well there are only 2
#2593 [09:09] <DigDug> i had a fifty fifty chance
#2594 [09:09] <megadud> con???
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#2596 [09:09] <xales> I count 5 different links on there that one can download
#2597 [09:10] <Con> Arghj
#2598 [09:10] <xales> megadud, I gave you a link several times
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#2603 [09:10] <megadud> oh...
#2604 [09:10] <Burnskagen> Can I copy a world from single player into my server?
#2605 [09:10] <megadud> fail.
#2606 [09:10] <DigDug> but thank you for linking the correct one
#2607 [09:10] <xales> http://forums.redstonewire.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=34433&view=unread
#2608 [09:10] <xales> DigDug: no prob
#2609 [09:10] <xales> Burnskagen: yes, google it
#2610 [09:10] <Burnskagen> ok
#2611 [09:10] <xales> someone has a guide somewhere IIRC
#2612 [09:10] <DigDug> well theres my new problem but i have it figured out i think
#2613 [09:11] <xales> DigDug: ask away
#2614 [09:11] <DigDug> sense i am not at home on my usual inet connection,i dont have a server
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#2616 [09:11] <DigDug> this sprint brodband isnt going to work I dont think
#2617 [09:11] <xales> DigDug: no, it will not
#2618 [09:11] <xales> for many reasons :(
#2619 [09:11] <DigDug> i guess its back to single player mode
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#2621 [09:13] <xales> why dont you just play on a different server?
#2622 [09:13] <DigDug> i feel impowered when its my own lol
#2623 [09:13] <xales> lol
#2624 [09:14] <Burnskagen> like-a-big-boo00OOii-NAO!!!
#2625 [09:14] <DigDug> i was hoping to be able to start inviting ppl but worried about the grifers
#2626 [09:14] <Burnskagen> What are griefers?
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#2628 [09:14] <Burnskagen> people who destroy stuff?
#2629 [09:14] <DigDug> they come in and destroy what youworked on and kill ya
#2630 [09:14] <xales> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefer
#2631 [09:14] <Con> People who make other people cry
#2632 [09:14] <DigDug> over n over
#2633 [09:15] <Burnskagen> Why not turn of pvp then?
#2634 [09:15] <xales> DigDug: you wont get many regulars on your server if it isn't dedicated
#2635 [09:15] <Burnskagen> and only promote certain people to digger
#2636 [09:15] <xales> and has a static IP
#2637 [09:15] <DigDug> im still learning what the static part is about
#2638 [09:16] <DigDug> its been a learning curve for me
#2639 [09:16] <xales> you cant really get a static IP on a home internet connection these days
#2640 [09:16] <DigDug> real servers cost ya an arm n aleg
#2641 [09:17] <DigDug> thought about gett3ing one though
#2642 [09:17] <xales> they arent _that_ expensive
#2643 [09:17] <xales> ive had friends paying $500/month for servers :/
#2644 [09:17] <DigDug> have to go back to newegg and see whats good for me
#2645 [09:17] <xales> DigDug: dont literally mean buy a server
#2646 [09:18] <xales> you need to rent one
#2647 [09:18] <xales> thats in a datacenter
#2648 [09:18] <xales> and has a good connection
#2649 [09:18] <DigDug> hmmm...cox cable i wonder
#2650 [09:18] <xales> DigDug: cox is an ISP, they do not provide servers
#2651 [09:18] <xales> I reccomend 1and1.com for servers
#2652 [09:18] <xales> or fehosting.com
#2653 [09:18] <DigDug> they need to lol
#2654 [09:18] <xales> DigDug: they cant, its a completely different enterprise that they cant go into given what thy already do
#2655 [09:19] <Burnskagen> cox?
#2656 [09:19] <Burnskagen> lol
#2657 [09:19] <DigDug> whats the going rate these days?
#2658 [09:19] <Burnskagen> cocks
#2659 [09:19] <xales> DigDug: depends on how powerful you want
#2660 [09:19] <DigDug> for rented servers
#2661 [09:19] <xales> about $60/month for a low powered
#2662 [09:19] <DigDug> what good for this game and possible future games
#2663 [09:19] <xales> barely dual core, 2GB ram, 250gb hdd
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#2665 [09:19] <DigDug> dont need no top of the line
#2666 [09:19] <DigDug> ok
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#2668 [09:20] <xales> http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/ServerPremiumDualCoreM
#2669 [09:20] <xales> that
#2670 [09:20] <xales> will be fine
#2671 [09:20] <DigDug> having a look
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#2673 [09:20] <xales> also, that will probably not be enough if you put windows on it. so dont do that
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#2675 [09:21] <Burnskagen> What is the hmod irc?
#2676 [09:21] <xales> #hmod
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#2678 [09:21] <xales> or #hey0
#2679 [09:21] <xales> one of the 2
#2680 [09:21] <Bla> heya, i got a question
#2681 [09:22] <xales> hello Bla, ask away
#2682 [09:22] <Burnskagen> no no don't ask
#2683 [09:22] <Burnskagen> you may die
#2684 [09:22] <Burnskagen> :O
#2685 [09:22] <xales> :(
#2686 [09:22] <Smiley> t0odays google is pretty cool
#2687 [09:22] <peru_> you know Minecraft is featured on 2 pages in this month's polish magazine CD-Action :)
#2688 [09:22] <Bla> Minecraft always says "Bad video drivers" or smth like that, even though all drivers are up to date. Im using Windows 7. Do you know how i can fix it? :S
#2689 [09:22] <xales> Bla: running on a laptop?
#2690 [09:23] <Bla> no
#2691 [09:23] <xales> what video card?
#2692 [09:23] <Bla> Nvidia GeForce 9800gt
#2693 [09:23] <xales> is Java up to date?
#2694 [09:23] <xales> it probably is, unless its been nagging you to update
#2695 [09:24] <Bla> up to date too :s
#2696 [09:24] <xales> Bla: did you build the computer or is it prebuild
#2697 [09:24] <Bla> Already tried to run as admin, doesnt work either
#2698 [09:24] <Bla> prebuild
#2699 [09:24] <xales> can you pastebin the exact error you get?
#2700 [09:24] <xales> in its entirety
#2701 [09:25] <DigDug> $60 a month eh? and
#2702 [09:25] <xales> DigDug: you can get something thats like $10/month tahts _just a minecraft server_, but you have less control
#2703 [09:25] <Bla> the error is:
#2704 [09:25] <DigDug> will have to think about it, prettyh steep for just gaming
#2705 [09:25] <Bla> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 23.12.10 15:25 Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.1_02 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.
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#2707 [09:25] <xales> and you cant do things like run a website for your server at exactly no additional cost
#2708 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> Bla - Update video drivers, obviously.
#2709 [09:26] <xales> GreyVulpine: seems he has
#2710 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> I doubt it
#2711 [09:26] <Bla> i already done that..
#2712 [09:26] <Bla> i've*
#2713 [09:26] <xales> Bla: did you install the correct driver?
#2714 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> Where did you update it from?
#2715 [09:26] <DigDug> did you uninstall your olddriver befor you updated and reinstalled the new one?
#2716 [09:26] <Bla> automatic update from nvidia
#2717 [09:26] <Zenreich> Bla, what's the issue you're having?
#2718 [09:26] <xales> DigDug: you shouldn't do that :P
#2719 [09:27] <DigDug> its whati have done,
#2720 [09:27] <xales> Zenreich: the opengl failed to init because cant find a video device thing
#2721 [09:27] <Bla> i posted the error already, my mincraft says smth about bad video drivers when im trying to start it
#2722 [09:27] <xales> DigDug: its unnecessary and asking for trouble :(
#2723 [09:27] <Zenreich> Bla, what model is your graphics card?
#2724 [09:27] <DigDug> probally so
#2725 [09:27] <xales> 09:23 < Bla> Nvidia GeForce 9800gt
#2726 [09:27] <DigDug> but i was desperate to play black ops on my laptop
#2727 [09:27] <Zenreich> Oh wow
#2728 [09:27] <Bla> y
#2729 [09:27] <Zenreich> Better than mine
#2730 [09:27] <DigDug> irony, now black ops was a bad idea too
#2731 [09:28] <Zenreich> ~\(o_O)/~, if updating drivers doesnt work, I got nothin
#2732 [09:28] <Bla> :<
#2733 [09:28] <xales> Bla: try installing driver again
#2734 [09:28] <DigDug> i hated that game
#2735 [09:28] <xales> Bla: use this (http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-260.99-whql-driver.html)
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#2738 [09:31] <Bla> ok im trying that new driver
#2739 [09:31] <Bla> going to tell you what happens
#2740 [09:31] <Bla> one more question btw
#2741 [09:32] <xales> go ahead
#2742 [09:32] <Bla> I bougth a minecraft giftcode for a friend, and havent recieved a email for 20 minutes - how long does it take?
#2743 [09:32] <Bla> I payed with paypal
#2744 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> It can take a while.
#2745 [09:32] <xales> Bla: look on your profile on minecraft.net
#2746 [09:32] <Bla> define "while"
#2747 [09:32] <Bla> :D
#2748 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> anywhere from a few minutes to a couple days
#2749 [09:33] <Bla> Outch.
#2750 [09:33] <xales> Bla: it may be in your profile, before you recieve an email
#2751 [09:33] <xales> you may also have the email in your spamfilter
#2752 [09:34] <Bla> So, it can actually take some days? oO'
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#2754 [09:35] <Bla> I'm installing my driver right now
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#2756 [09:37] <Bla> I'd really like to play Minecraft with a friend - i hope the email comes fast
#2757 [09:37] <xales> Bla: once again
#2758 [09:37] <xales> look in your miencraft profile
#2759 [09:38] <xales> it may be there bfore you recieve an email
#2760 [09:38] <Bla> Still nothing there
#2761 [09:38] <xales> ok
#2762 [09:38] <Bla> Well, i'm gonna wait then
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#2766 [09:51] <Bla> Yay! It worked with that driver!
#2767 [09:51] <Bla> Thanks for the help =)
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#2769 [09:51] <Bla> *plays minecraft*
#2770 [09:51] <xales> Bla: no problem
#2771 [09:51] <xales> enjoy
#2772 [09:51] <Bla> see y! And merry christmas. ;D
#2773 [09:51] <xales> you too
#2774 [09:51] <xales> :D
#2775 [09:52] <Bla> :)
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#2785 [10:14] <Deadeye> Hello all. I purchased Minecraft a while back and I have yet to be able to connect using my main computer (Win7) but it works on other systems in the house (so it's not a network issue). I can browse to www.minecraft.net and minecraft.net, but when I try to log in, I just get "Can't connect to minecraft.net" right away. I can ping minecraft.net fine and the tracert is clear. I've
#2786 [10:14] <Deadeye> updated Java, flushed my dnscache, and checked my hosts file. Everything seems fine, but for some reason, I can't connect using this system. What would possible prevent this one application from even attempting to connect?
#2787 [10:15] <xales> Deadeye:
#2788 [10:15] <xales> firewall
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#2794 [10:25] <Deadeye> Sorry, I already tried it with my firewall disabled. Still won't connect.
#2795 [10:26] <xales> Deadeye: what does it say when you try to connect??
#2796 [10:26] <xales> also, it could be antivirus or some other program
#2797 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Deadeye - You sure it's not your HOSTS file?
#2798 [10:27] <Deadeye> ??? I just tried taking down the firewall just for S&G's, and now it works!!! WTF? Sorry, I swear that was the first thing i tried.
#2799 [10:27] <Deadeye> Bizzare. Though I am using a third party firewall....
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#2801 [10:27] <xales> Deadeye: third party is the way to go, though firewalls arent really necessary if your behind a router
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#2803 [10:28] <xales> window firewall is garbage, and will open you up to more holes than it will "fix"
#2804 [10:28] <Deadeye> I'm super paranoid.
#2805 [10:28] <whatever> so er
#2806 [10:28] <whatever> anyone available to test my server?
#2807 [10:28] <mbentley> i hate third party firewalls...
#2808 [10:28] <whatever> Just connect and disconnect
#2809 [10:28] <whatever> that's all.....
#2810 [10:28] <Deadeye> Thanks xales for the suggestion. I've been pouring over forums trying to troubleshoot.
#2811 [10:28] <xales> Deadeye: no problem
#2812 [10:29] <xales> I'm always here, let me know if there is anything else I can do
#2813 [10:29] <Deadeye> ........I should probably restore my registry....made a few changes in the process....
#2814 [10:29] <Deadeye> Thanks.
#2815 [10:29] <Deadeye> Now I can play with the beta and get my Minecrack on!
#2816 [10:29] <whatever> xales can you try connecting to a server for 10 secs?
#2817 [10:29] <whatever> pls...
#2818 [10:29] <xales> whatever: not on this computer, sorry :(
#2819 [10:29] <xales> im on my garbage mac
#2820 [10:29] <whatever> :-(
#2821 [10:29] <xales> minecraft doesnt run on here
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#2823 [10:30] <mbentley> whatever: sure
#2824 [10:30] <whatever> mbentley
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#2832 [10:46] <CaptainIgneus> Is there anyone currently reading this that could answer a quick question I have?
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#2834 [10:47] <mbentley> nope
#2835 [10:48] <mbentley> </sarcasm>
#2836 [10:48] <CaptainIgneus> lol
#2837 [10:48] <mbentley> ask away
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#2839 [10:48] <CaptainIgneus> I was just wondering what the average wait time was for an account to go premium after purchasing
#2840 [10:49] <mbentley> it seems that there is some lag as you aren't the first person to ask today
#2841 [10:49] <CaptainIgneus> ahh
#2842 [10:49] <mbentley> people have said minutes to days
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#2845 [10:50] <CaptainIgneus> ok, thank you :)
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#2847 [10:50] <mbentley> word on the street is emailing support@mojang.com is the way to go if it continues to take a long time
#2848 [10:51] <mbentley> also, others say you might be able to check your status @ http://www.minecraft.net/skin/ once you login
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#2852 [10:57] <Meow> Why dont i recieve an email with the gift code? :(
#2853 [11:00] <lunarblu> Does Notch post on what features he is adding to the game?
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#2855 [11:01] <mbentley> yes
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#2857 [11:02] <mbentley> or what he has added
#2858 [11:02] <mbentley> http://notch.tumblr.com/
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#2860 [11:03] <lunarblu> mbentley, Thank you. I was wondering if he had a development time line.
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#2864 [11:11] <GLaDOS> who the fuck owns AuBot?
#2865 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> Kealper
#2866 [11:12] * GreyVulpine nods
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#2867 [11:12] <GLaDOS> so, as we were saying
#2868 [11:12] * GreyVulpine was thinking of adding him to aop
#2868 [11:12] <warewolf> mtfnpy?
#2869 [11:13] <GLaDOS> warewolf: wut
#2870 [11:13] <warewolf> mtfnpy. It's a meme of mine.
#2871 [11:13] <warewolf> your response of "wut" was apropos.
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#2873 [11:14] <warewolf> it's a null meme. It has no purpose other than to simply exist. No meaning.
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#2876 [11:15] <kontroll> I dance.
#2877 [11:15] * kontroll dances
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#2881 [11:21] <Mjiig> can you play minecraft offline, or does it auth to the central servers every time you log in
#2882 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> It auths.
#2883 [11:21] <kontroll> You can play.
#2884 [11:21] <kontroll> GreyVulpine: It tries to. :P
#2885 [11:21] <kontroll> But you can still play.
#2886 [11:21] * GreyVulpine nods
#2886 [11:21] <Mjiig> fair enough
#2887 [11:21] <kontroll> You have to auth once first though.
#2888 [11:22] <Mjiig> kontroll: i knew that, checking if you need online every time
#2889 [11:22] <kontroll> But I'm assuming you've done so already. :P
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#2891 [11:25] <Mjiig> kontroll: i have, just wondered if i would be able to play if i went away from my router
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#2893 [11:25] <kontroll> Yes yes, I got that. :)
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#2904 [11:52] <xaviergmail> it sucks that we can't play minecraft without internet
#2905 [11:52] <xaviergmail> :(
#2906 [11:52] <kontroll> /peer
#2907 [11:52] <Zenreich> wat.
#2908 [11:53] <Zenreich> yes you can
#2909 [11:53] <xaviergmail> orly
#2910 [11:53] <Zenreich> Theres offline mode :/
#2911 [11:53] <xaviergmail> where :O
#2912 [11:53] <Zenreich> Well
#2913 [11:53] <Zenreich> Log in without typing in your account stuff
#2914 [11:53] <Zenreich> and you can offline mode like that
#2915 [11:53] <Zenreich> Or normally, it just wouldnt connect and you'd be forced to offline mode
#2916 [11:53] <xaviergmail> O_o
#2917 [11:53] * GreyVulpine nods
#2917 [11:54] <Zenreich> Cracked clients skip authentication and use offline mode to play
#2918 [11:54] * GreyVulpine shakes
#2918 [11:54] <xaviergmail> i dnt want a cracked client
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#2920 [11:54] <Zenreich> online-mode=true prevents these clients from connecting
#2921 [11:54] <Zenreich> You dont need one
#2922 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Cracked clients use a modded HOSTS file to direct the minecraft client to look elsewhere
#2923 [11:54] <Zenreich> wat
#2924 [11:54] <Zenreich> if I login with a cracked client, it updates to beta
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#2926 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Didn't use the right cracked client then.
#2927 [11:55] <Zenreich> *shrug*
#2928 [11:55] <Zenreich> It works just as well
#2929 [11:55] <Zenreich> and comes with a minimap :3
#2930 [11:55] <xaviergmail> eww
#2931 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> I've had to help a number of people that come by here... and a bunch of them had entries in their HOSTS file that pointed them to unofficial minecraft auth servers
#2932 [11:55] <xaviergmail> minimap kills the game
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#2934 [11:55] <Zenreich> :/
#2935 [11:55] <xaviergmail> :/
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#2937 [11:55] <Zenreich> GreyVulpine, huh. that seems unnecessary.
#2938 [11:56] * GreyVulpine nods
#2938 [11:56] <Zenreich> Unless they fake authentication so they can connect to online-mode servers
#2939 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> But they never told me this before I started helping them
#2940 [11:56] <xaviergmail> oh host file gives me an idea
#2941 [11:56] * PandaBear is now known as Pandafk
#2942 [11:56] <xaviergmail> i could edit school's host file to be able to play X_X
#2943 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> So, my first clue would be them unable to update, or unable to connect to minecraft.net using their browser
#2944 [11:56] <xaviergmail> because they blocked miencraft.net
#2945 [11:56] <waxdt1> my payed minecraft account is hacked what can i do? becuase notch doesnt respond to my email!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2946 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Ouch.
#2947 [11:57] <Zenreich> waxdt1, hold sweden hostage
#2948 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Send an email to payment@mojang.com, with your info
#2949 [11:57] <kontroll> The US is already doing that just fine.
#2950 [11:57] <xaviergmail> recover your password?
#2951 [11:57] <Zenreich> kontroll, the US is no match for swarms of internet vikings
#2952 [11:57] <waxdt1> i cant recover my password because the hacker was smart and changed the email
#2953 [11:58] <Zenreich> >common sense
#2954 [11:58] <waxdt1> i stil have the payment id
#2955 [11:58] <Zenreich> >smart
#2956 [11:58] <Zenreich> then again
#2957 [11:58] <Zenreich> hrm.
#2958 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> You.. can't change the email
#2959 [11:58] <xaviergmail> wtf
#2960 [11:58] <Zenreich> I suppose it doesnt make him dumb.
#2961 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> It's not possible right now
#2962 [11:58] <xaviergmail> if u could, it would need to ask you for your current email n email mconfirmation from your old email acc
#2963 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't
#2964 [11:59] <xaviergmail> ?
#2965 [11:59] <waxdt1> i mean he changed the email my acount is registerd with
#2966 [11:59] <waxdt1> my mc account
#2967 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> The way Notch coded the database, You can't change your email or username, else it loses the connection between your premium status and your minecraft account
#2968 [11:59] <Zenreich> oh wow
#2969 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> He needs to work on that
#2970 [11:59] <Zenreich> so if he did change the email
#2971 [11:59] <Zenreich> dumbass hacker
#2972 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> The thing is, there is no way to change the email right now..
#2973 [12:00] <waxdt1> look on minecraft.net > profile > change email
#2974 [12:00] <waxdt1> !
#2975 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net isn't up for me.
#2976 [12:00] <Zenreich> Oh.
#2977 [12:00] <Mjiig> waxdt1: i can't mc.net is down...
#2978 [12:00] <waxdt1> the hacker changed it because i could log on into it with my browser cache
#2979 [12:00] <xaviergmail> waxdt1: that's why you use linux to et rid of viruses
#2980 [12:00] <xaviergmail> wtf
#2981 [12:00] <xaviergmail> 500 Servlet Exception [show] java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections! java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections! at com.mojang.minecraft.web.UserDB.getUser(UserDB.java:234) at com.mojang.minecraft.web.Users.login(Users.java:17) at _jsp._login__jsp._jspService(login.jsp:12) at _jsp._login__jsp._jspService(_login
#2982 [12:01] <xaviergmail> oops there wasnt that many lines when i copied wtf
#2983 [12:01] <waxdt1> LOL
#2984 [12:01] <xaviergmail> oh
#2985 [12:01] <xaviergmail> theres a show spoiler
#2986 [12:01] <waxdt1> but i need to diner now
#2987 [12:01] <xaviergmail> _-
#2988 [12:01] <xaviergmail> anyways
#2989 [12:01] <xaviergmail> 500 Servlet Exception
#2990 [12:01] <xaviergmail> D:
#2991 [12:01] <xaviergmail> IU cant login
#2992 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure there isn't a way to change the email registered
#2993 [12:02] <Mjiig> oddly downforeveryoneorjustme can get a connection... or maybe it just doesn't register 500 errors properly
#2994 [12:02] <Sigafoos> yeah, I'm getting 500s (was a Time Out error before that)
#2995 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> clear cookies
#2996 [12:03] <username17> it works when I try it on my phone, but 500s when on my PC
#2997 [12:03] <kontroll> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUf408BIrY8
#2998 [12:03] * kontroll wipes tears
#2998 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> If you clear your cookies on your browser, you can connect
#2999 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> ... but not log in
#3000 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#3001 [12:05] <xaviergmail> wtf
#3002 [12:05] <xaviergmail> 502 Bad Gateway ZEN
#3003 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I get that too
#3004 [12:05] <Sigafoos> I think this is some evil plot to encourage productivity
#3005 [12:05] <Mjiig> gah same
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#3007 [12:05] <Mjiig> Sigafoos: doesn't work, we all just sit here reloading the site :)
#3008 [12:05] <xaviergmail> is anyone a pro texturer?
#3009 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> For...
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#3011 [12:06] <xaviergmail> adding pumpkins to dokus's rpg pack
#3012 [12:06] <xaviergmail> :d
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#3014 [12:06] * GreyVulpine snerks.
#3014 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> xaviergmail - somebody has already updated it
#3015 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> unofficially, of course
#3016 [12:07] <xaviergmail> orly
#3017 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=111202
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#3020 [12:08] <Sigafoos> it's back up fwiw
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#3023 [12:08] <craftgaming> Hai there.
#3024 [12:08] <Taki> hey
#3025 [12:08] <Taki> One short questin
#3026 [12:08] <craftgaming> Anyone can not get into Minecraft either?
#3027 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> Just came back up
#3028 [12:08] <xaviergmail> GreyVulpine: u can officially change email :/
#3029 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> clear cookies
#3030 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Well then. Bah.
#3031 [12:09] <Taki> How long does it take until the mail with giftcard-key comes...? Already 2 hours of nothing. :(
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#3033 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes it's immediate, sometimes it could take a few horus
#3034 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> hours*
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#3036 [12:10] <Taki> :/
#3037 [12:10] <craftgaming> As Notch stated; the server is slow.
#3038 [12:10] <craftgaming> And now it is Christmas, the sales raised by 100k in two weeks.
#3039 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, since gift codes went out, he's already broken his sales/day record
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#3041 [12:11] <xaviergmail> isnt notch rich?
#3042 [12:11] <xaviergmail> :O
#3043 [12:11] <Taki> I'd really like to play with a friend now, but i dont recieve the email :s
#3044 [12:11] <craftgaming> Anyways, I can not get into Minecraft. My browser crashes everytime it tries to load www.minecraft.net/game.jsp or whatever it is.
#3045 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> it crashes?
#3046 [12:12] <Con> xaviergmail: no, Mojang is rich.
#3047 [12:12] <xaviergmail> o
#3048 [12:12] <xaviergmail> :(
#3049 [12:12] <craftgaming> Yes.
#3050 [12:12] <craftgaming> And then everythign starts freezing.
#3051 [12:12] <craftgaming> *everything
#3052 [12:12] <xaviergmail> downloac the game
#3053 [12:12] <craftgaming> I already updated my Java.
#3054 [12:12] <craftgaming> No, the minecraft.exe does not do anything.
#3055 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> there's nothing at minecraft.net/game.jsp
#3056 [12:13] <craftgaming> I can a confirmation window saying "DO YOU TRUST BLAH BLAH BLAH" and then it just does NOTHING.
#3057 [12:13] <craftgaming> then it's minecraft.net/game
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#3059 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. works fine from here
#3060 [12:13] <Beachill> Hey guys
#3061 [12:13] <craftgaming> I already looked in my processes if another Minecraft instance is probably runnn-----
#3062 [12:13] <craftgaming> One second.
#3063 [12:13] <Beachill> i bought minecraft 6 hours ago and it says "user not premium"
#3064 [12:13] <Beachill> what gives?
#3065 [12:13] <xaviergmail> craftgaming: download the .jar
#3066 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Beachill - Need to give it some time.
#3067 [12:14] <Beachill> ok thanks
#3068 [12:14] <Mjiig> Beachill: the server appears to be struggling to keep up at the moment
#3069 [12:14] <craftgaming> Minecraft.jar belongs to Mojang Specifications, since when do they give it as download on their website?
#3070 [12:14] <xaviergmail> xmas update on xmas or 24th?
#3071 [12:15] <craftgaming> Well, I guess tomorrow.
#3072 [12:15] <xaviergmail> :D
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#3074 [12:15] <craftgaming> As another seeecret update.
#3075 [12:15] <xaviergmail> and an obfuscated.jar
#3076 [12:15] <Sigafoos> xaviergmail: when I run the .exe (and .jar -- just tried) it does the 'something's wrong' beep and nothing happens (windows) -- any idea why?
#3077 [12:15] <craftgaming> Update Java?
#3078 [12:15] <Sigafoos> I can run the webapp fine
#3079 [12:15] <xaviergmail> O_o
#3080 [12:16] <xaviergmail> run rthe exe as admin
#3081 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Sigafoos - Can you do java -version in your command prompt?
#3082 [12:16] <craftgaming> Check your alt+ctrl
#3083 [12:16] <craftgaming> +del
#3084 [12:16] <craftgaming> Maybe another instance of Java is running in your system.
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#3088 [12:17] <xaviergmail> Sigafoos: windows version?
#3089 [12:17] <craftgaming> The strange thing is, Minecraft worked at Alpha 1.2.6
#3090 [12:17] <xaviergmail> craftgaminx downlaod it
#3091 [12:17] <xaviergmail> the server's slow
#3092 [12:17] <Sigafoos> xaviergmail: XP, with java 1.6.0_23
#3093 [12:18] <craftgaming> As said.
#3094 [12:18] <xaviergmail> you sure it isn't a cracked?
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#3096 [12:18] <craftgaming> Mine?
#3097 [12:18] <xaviergmail> Sigafoos's
#3098 [12:18] <craftgaming> Oh.
#3099 [12:18] <Sigafoos> no -- got them from the MC site
#3100 [12:18] <xaviergmail> doublke click it
#3101 [12:18] <craftgaming> And NOTHING happens when I run minecraft.jar.
#3102 [12:18] <xaviergmail> wait 5 secs
#3103 [12:18] <Sigafoos> tried both exes, too
#3104 [12:18] <xaviergmail> both?
#3105 [12:19] <Sigafoos> yeah, it says 'If that version doesn't work for some reason, try this: Minecraft.exe'
#3106 [12:19] <xaviergmail> oh
#3107 [12:20] <xaviergmail> maybe restart ur comp? idk :/
#3108 [12:20] <Sigafoos> it's a work pc, so that may be it, but I have permission to do whatever I want
#3109 [12:20] <Sigafoos> eh, it's been an ongoing problem (was before the beta as well), and the web interface works fine
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#3111 [12:20] <Sigafoos> the only issue is that I can't specify a port, so I can't try the server I set up at home (used a different port for right now)
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#3113 [12:21] <Burnskagen> So I modified the skin png for cows
#3114 [12:21] <Burnskagen> and now the cows are invisible
#3115 [12:21] <Burnskagen> I reset the graphics
#3116 [12:21] <craftgaming> lol
#3117 [12:21] <Burnskagen> still invisible
#3118 [12:21] <Burnskagen> XD
#3119 [12:21] <Burnskagen> how to fix it?
#3120 [12:21] <craftgaming> Get a clean minecraft.jar?
#3121 [12:21] <xaviergmail> how can u know if they invisible
#3122 [12:21] <Burnskagen> I hear them
#3123 [12:21] <craftgaming> Good point.
#3124 [12:21] <Burnskagen> and they make bubbles
#3125 [12:21] <xaviergmail> lol
#3126 [12:21] <xaviergmail> and
#3127 [12:21] <xaviergmail> maybe u made it too hd
#3128 [12:22] <craftgaming> ... Aha.
#3129 [12:22] <Burnskagen> ok
#3130 [12:22] <xaviergmail> minecraft isnt for q2esome pro photoshoppers
#3131 [12:22] <xaviergmail> that paints a 1 gb pic/day
#3132 [12:22] <xaviergmail> O_o
#3133 [12:22] <Burnskagen> I changed 4 pixels
#3134 [12:22] <Burnskagen> O_o
#3135 [12:22] <Burnskagen> <.>
#3136 [12:23] <craftgaming> I always change two pixels. The eyes... It is Him.
#3137 [12:23] <xaviergmail> y change just 4 pixels
#3138 [12:23] <xaviergmail> and
#3139 [12:23] <Burnskagen> Ok, I admit that I tried to paste a friends face onto it
#3140 [12:23] <xaviergmail> did you rejar it?
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#3142 [12:23] <craftgaming> XD
#3143 [12:23] <xaviergmail> ok that won;t work
#3144 [12:23] <Burnskagen> lol :D
#3145 [12:24] <craftgaming> Except if you have an awesome 1600p pack.
#3146 [12:24] <xaviergmail> http://minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=xaviergmail
#3147 [12:24] <xaviergmail> i liek mai skin
#3148 [12:24] <xaviergmail> ftw
#3149 [12:24] <craftgaming> But I guess not "Many" computers could take that.
#3150 [12:24] <Mjiig> xaviergmail: AWESOME SKIN :)
#3151 [12:25] <Burnskagen> How do I get a clean .jar?
#3152 [12:25] <Burnskagen> what should I download?
#3153 [12:25] <mbentley> for the server?
#3154 [12:25] <xaviergmail> thx Mjiig :D
#3155 [12:25] <Burnskagen> no
#3156 [12:25] <Burnskagen> the main thing
#3157 [12:25] <Mjiig> go to http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
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#3159 [12:25] <Burnskagen> in appdata/.minecraft
#3160 [12:25] <xaviergmail> oh
#3161 [12:25] <xaviergmail> rigafoos
#3162 [12:26] <Burnskagen> If I just delete the file
#3163 [12:26] <Burnskagen> will it be regenerated?
#3164 [12:26] <xaviergmail> Sigafoos: type %APPDATA% in start > run
#3165 [12:26] <xaviergmail> maybe Burnskagen
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#3167 [12:27] <xaviergmail> GreyVulpine: I like your skin :D
#3168 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> :P
#3169 [12:27] <Sigafoos> xaviergmail: oh! I've used the client with this .minecraft on a win7 machine; think that could be the issue?
#3170 [12:27] <xaviergmail> grey/orange with glasses
#3171 [12:27] <xaviergmail> and green eyes
#3172 [12:27] <xaviergmail> you didn;t redownload it?
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#3174 [12:28] <frogmella> uhhh hello?
#3175 [12:28] <xaviergmail> guys party's over
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#3177 [12:28] <frogmella> may i have some help?
#3178 [12:28] <xaviergmail> yes
#3179 [12:28] <frogmella> Well
#3180 [12:28] <frogmella> you see
#3181 [12:28] <xaviergmail> and Sigafoos redownload the .exe
#3182 [12:28] <Sigafoos> okay; I'll just copy the save over after, and see if that helps
#3183 [12:29] <frogmella> i've purchased minecraft premium account. but when i try to copnnect it says "account not premium"
#3184 [12:29] <frogmella> connect*
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#3187 [12:29] <frogmella> and, i've bought minecraft on TWO accounts still not working
#3188 [12:29] <Mjiig> frogmella: a lot of people are getting delays
#3189 [12:29] <Mjiig> how long ago did you get it?
#3190 [12:29] <frogmella> How long can those "delays" last?
#3191 [12:30] <xaviergmail> there's so many ppl buying accounts atm that the servewr's slow, you will get your two accounts soon
#3192 [12:30] <frogmella> about 2 hours.
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#3194 [12:30] <frogmella> Ahhh
#3195 [12:30] <frogmella> okay
#3196 [12:30] <frogmella> many thanks you guys are greaty.
#3197 [12:30] <frogmella> great*
#3198 [12:30] <xaviergmail> I;m sure you'll get it by the end of the day, dw
#3199 [12:30] * xaviergmail hates typos
#3199 [12:30] <frogmella> ahh yeah mary x-mas btw :D
#3200 [12:30] <mbentley> need like a daily faq :D
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#3202 [12:30] <Sigh> Why can't I chagne my skin on the minecraft website even though I had bought the game in alpha?
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#3204 [12:30] <Sigh> change*
#3205 [12:31] <xaviergmail> what>'
#3206 [12:31] <Kur0> hey there got a question about the gift codes
#3207 [12:31] <mbentley> Sigh: why can't you?
#3208 [12:31] <xaviergmail> sigh, you logged in and all?
#3209 [12:31] <mbentley> Kur0: fire away
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#3211 [12:31] <xaviergmail> Kur0: what's your question
#3212 [12:32] <Kur0> i bought a code but i didn´t rcived a mail
#3213 [12:32] <Mjiig> how long ago did you get the code?
#3214 [12:32] <xaviergmail> don't worry, it should come soon
#3215 [12:32] <Kur0> also the code isn´t listed on my profile page
#3216 [12:32] <Mjiig> *i mean pay not get
#3217 [12:32] <xaviergmail> there's so many ppl buying accounts atm that the servewr's slow, you will get it soon
#3218 [12:32] <Kur0> ah okay =O
#3219 [12:33] <xaviergmail> this is so popular that everyone rushes it :O
#3220 [12:33] <Kur0> yea didn´t thought that a freaking game like this will be one of the most played ever
#3221 [12:33] <xaviergmail> they're scared that they will run out of .exes an /jars
#3222 [12:33] <xaviergmail> ikr :d
#3223 [12:34] <Kur0> every big company just looks at this little one^^
#3224 [12:34] <xaviergmail> this is a simple game but really addictive
#3225 [12:34] <Kur0> yea
#3226 [12:34] <xaviergmail> since this came out, runescape's players slowly go down
#3227 [12:34] <Mjiig> xaviergmail: all the most famous and best games (computer and regular) are
#3228 [12:34] <xaviergmail> :D
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#3230 [12:34] <mbentley> it's really basic but it is what people do with it that is awesome
#3231 [12:35] <xaviergmail> ^
#3232 [12:35] <mbentley> some people just blow my mind with their creativity
#3233 [12:35] <mbentley> like the full size uss enterprise someone is making...
#3234 [12:35] <mbentley> haha
#3235 [12:35] <xaviergmail> ikr
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#3237 [12:35] <xaviergmail> and runescape atm Play Now 174,899 people currently online
#3238 [12:36] <xaviergmail> they used to have 1m
#3239 [12:36] <xaviergmail> :D
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#3244 [12:49] <GLaDOS> xaviergmail: that means that more people are becoming slobby enough to get WoW
#3245 [12:49] <GLaDOS> :3
#3246 [12:51] <Kur0> uhm how long do you think it will take until the code arrives ?
#3247 [12:52] <Kur0> O_O
#3248 [12:54] <mbentley> no way to really tell
#3249 [12:54] <Kur0> hmmzz.. ._.
#3250 [12:54] <xaviergmail> GLaDOS: you mean WoMC
#3251 [12:54] <Kur0> hope fast =D
#3252 [12:54] <xaviergmail> WoM*
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#3254 [12:55] <Einschtein> Hi
#3255 [12:55] <Kur0> jo =)
#3256 [12:55] <Einschtein> Got a question
#3257 [12:55] * GLaDOS facepalms
#3257 [12:55] <mbentley> we have answers
#3258 [12:55] <Kur0> ask =)
#3259 [12:56] <Einschtein> The tutorial says, that if you want to install Minecraft for Linux, you'll need JAVA. It gives the command: sudo yum install openjdk-6-jre-headless to download it.
#3260 [12:56] <Einschtein> However, I get back that there is no such package.
#3261 [12:57] <mbentley> hmm, maybe do a 'yum search jre' and see what it returns
#3262 [12:57] <xaviergmail> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV5PwN2e88Y
#3263 [12:57] <Einschtein> =
#3264 [12:57] <Einschtein> jrefactory.i386 : JRefactory and Pretty Print
#3265 [12:57] <Einschtein> jss.i386 : Java Security Services (JSS)
#3266 [12:57] <Einschtein> vzdummy-jre-el5.noarch : Dummy package to fix jre uninstallation
#3267 [12:58] <mbentley> hmm
#3268 [12:58] <mbentley> i'm not really familiar with yum
#3269 [12:58] <mbentley> i take it you are running red hat or fedora?
#3270 [12:59] <Einschtein> CentOS.
#3271 [12:59] <mbentley> ah
#3272 [12:59] <mbentley> right have a look at this >> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaOnCentOS
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#3275 [13:00] <Demki> I needs help with connecting to my own server
#3276 [13:00] <mbentley> and follow the 'Sun JDK 1.6' instructions
#3277 [13:00] <Demki> also, GLaDOS, is there a channel you aren't OP in?
#3278 [13:00] <mbentley> Demki: if the server is on the same machine as the client, connect with 127.0.0.1 or localhost
#3279 [13:00] <Demki> oh, right
#3280 [13:00] <GLaDOS> Demki: a couple
#3281 [13:00] <Demki> mbent: classic
#3282 [13:00] <Demki> classic server
#3283 [13:01] <mbentley> you aren't trying to use the beta client are you?
#3284 [13:01] <Demki> no
#3285 [13:01] <Demki> =\
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#3287 [13:01] <Demki> I am using the url from the externalurl.txt
#3288 [13:01] <Demki> lol
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#3291 [13:05] <Einschtein> Blerg, takes muchos time to install just Java on CentOS. =[
#3292 [13:06] <GLaDOS> Einschtein: did you install the EPEL?
#3293 [13:06] <GLaDOS> or, the RPM to get access?
#3294 [13:06] <Einschtein> No and no
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#3296 [13:07] <Waldfritzchen> hey
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#3298 [13:07] <Einschtein> Wait, I do have RPM
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#3303 [13:08] <Kimkarpet> How do I implement ranks into my Classic Minecraft server?
#3304 [13:08] <Einschtein> @GLaDOS: Howcome?
#3305 [13:09] <GLaDOS> should open up more packages
#3306 [13:09] <Kealper> wow....totally didn't expect to get that
#3307 [13:09] <GLaDOS> once done, do what i do, and "sudo yum -y install java*"
#3308 [13:09] <xaviergmail> omg
#3309 [13:09] <GLaDOS> and yes, you have RPM
#3310 [13:09] <xaviergmail> I've built the most evil door ever
#3311 [13:09] <GLaDOS> otherwise it wouldnt work
#3312 [13:09] <Kealper> thanks GLaDOS :3
#3313 [13:10] <xaviergmail> grats kealper!
#3314 [13:10] <Kealper> thanks lol
#3315 [13:10] <xaviergmail> :D
#3316 [13:10] <xaviergmail> dude
#3317 [13:10] <xaviergmail> i've built an evil door
#3318 [13:10] <Kealper> now hopefully we can rid outselves of the 5am trolls -.-
#3319 [13:10] <xaviergmail> :D
#3320 [13:11] <xaviergmail> its 1 pm
#3321 [13:11] <Kimkarpet> Can anyone answer my question?
#3322 [13:11] <Einschtein> Oi, GLaDOS: hero.
#3323 [13:11] <Einschtein> Install it now.
#3324 [13:11] <xaviergmail> ok
#3325 [13:11] <GLaDOS> hm?
#3326 [13:11] <xaviergmail> kealper
#3327 [13:11] <Kealper> well i mean at 5am, it's 1pm here aswell lol
#3328 [13:11] <xaviergmail> wanna see my evil door?
#3329 [13:11] <Einschtein> Installing it now*
#3330 [13:11] <Kealper> i can in a few min, gotta actually wake up first :P
#3331 [13:11] <GLaDOS> ah
#3332 [13:11] <Kealper> so on that note: brb
#3333 [13:11] <xaviergmail> XD
#3334 [13:12] <xaviergmail> im gonna record it
#3335 [13:12] <Einschtein> Meh, gives an error when doing java -version But meh, I'll restart the server first.
#3336 [13:12] <xaviergmail> kealper, bomber suit?
#3337 [13:14] <mbentley> it shouldn't error when executing that command...
#3338 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> Einschtein - What error?
#3339 [13:15] <Einschtein> Error occurred during initialization of VM
#3340 [13:15] <Einschtein> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread
#3341 [13:15] <Einschtein> at java.lang.Thread.start0(Native Method)
#3342 [13:15] <Einschtein> at java.lang.Thread.start(Thread.java:614)
#3343 [13:15] <Einschtein> at java.lang.ref.Finalizer.<clinit>(Finalizer.java:194)
#3344 [13:15] <Einschtein> thát. ='(
#3345 [13:16] <mbentley> you must be out of memory then :)
#3346 [13:16] <mbentley> </shocker>
#3347 [13:16] <mbentley> surprisingly helpful error
#3348 [13:16] <Einschtein> It gave that error after the restart, not before it, eh.
#3349 [13:17] <Kealper> alright i'm back, thanks aswell grey
#3350 [13:18] <xaviergmail> kealper u haz a bomber suit?
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#3352 [13:19] <Kealper> my skin in mc? it's Doomguy
#3353 [13:19] <xaviergmail> :O
#3354 [13:19] <xaviergmail> i have a tuxedo creper
#3355 [13:19] <xaviergmail> :)
#3356 [13:19] <xaviergmail> http://minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=xaviergmail
#3357 [13:19] <Mjiig> whose doomguy?
#3358 [13:19] <Kealper> the player from the original Doom series
#3359 [13:20] <xaviergmail> sorry hit backspace
#3360 [13:20] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=Kealper
#3361 [13:20] <xaviergmail> did any1 talk to me before i quit?
#3362 [13:20] <Kealper> you quit? lol
#3363 [13:20] <xaviergmail> ik, I saw it :d
#3364 [13:20] <xaviergmail> i hti backpace
#3365 [13:21] <Kimkarpet> How do I implement ranks into my Classic Minecraft server?
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#3367 [13:21] <mib_15lxfy> Uhmm..
#3368 [13:21] <mib_15lxfy> hello?
#3369 [13:21] <Kimkarpet> Hi.
#3370 [13:21] <mib_15lxfy> can i have som help please?
#3371 [13:22] <mib_15lxfy> some*
#3372 [13:22] <Kimkarpet> There doesn't to be much help at this time...
#3373 [13:22] <Kealper> ello
#3374 [13:22] <mib_15lxfy> umm what?
#3375 [13:22] <Kimkarpet> Nobody seems to be helping.
#3376 [13:22] <mib_15lxfy> I'm still having problems?
#3377 [13:22] <Kealper> i can probably help :P
#3378 [13:23] <Kealper> mib_15lxfy: what problems?
#3379 [13:23] <mib_15lxfy> Well.
#3380 [13:23] <mib_15lxfy> you see
#3381 [13:24] <mib_15lxfy> three hours ago i purchased a mine craft premium account. but i still get the "User not premium" error and it says i need to play online once to be able to play offline.
#3382 [13:24] <mib_15lxfy> Any ideas kealper?
#3383 [13:24] <mib_15lxfy> Delayed or what?
#3384 [13:24] <Kealper> some times it takes a bit (up to a day) for it to register that you paid
#3385 [13:24] <Kealper> since paypal is nice like that :S
#3386 [13:25] <xaviergmail> server's busy because this game is so awesome that everyone buys it and overloads the server
#3387 [13:25] <mib_15lxfy> No says the transfer is complete.
#3388 [13:25] <mib_15lxfy> oh..
#3389 [13:25] <Kealper> yes, on paypal's end it will say the transfer worked
#3390 [13:25] <Kealper> but the message from paypal didn't get back to the minecraft server, and paypal retries every few hours
#3391 [13:26] <mib_15lxfy> And i got a little pissed so i purchased another premium acc lol and tested but still ddnt work.
#3392 [13:26] <mib_15lxfy> well.
#3393 [13:26] <mib_15lxfy> thanks for help anyways
#3394 [13:26] <mib_15lxfy> another guy told me tat i would be able to go on by the end of the day
#3395 [13:26] <mib_15lxfy> and i read that people have been waiting for months and still havent got their acc..
#3396 [13:26] <mib_15lxfy> so..
#3397 [13:26] <Kealper> O.o
#3398 [13:27] <mib_15lxfy> i'm just wondering.
#3399 [13:27] <mib_15lxfy> i searched for the "User not premium" error on google..
#3400 [13:27] <mib_15lxfy> and it was a shitload of people that hadn't got thei acc activated even tough they waited months..
#3401 [13:27] * GLaDOS is now known as ``
#3402 [13:28] <Kealper> well, if it takes longer than a day, you can always send an email to support@mojang.com (attach your paypal reciept) and they can fix you up
#3403 [13:28] <mib_15lxfy> no they dont, people had spammed their mails with requests like that
#3404 [13:28] <mib_15lxfy> still no aswer after weeks.
#3405 [13:28] <mib_15lxfy> so i doubt my acc will get activated but im still trying lol
#3406 [13:28] <Kealper> well, they get TONS of emails per day, so it could take a bit for them to respond
#3407 [13:29] <mib_15lxfy> yea i know
#3408 [13:29] <xaviergmail> >(``_``)>
#3409 [13:29] <mib_15lxfy> i understand and im not blaming anyone.
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#3412 [13:29] <mib_15lxfy> but
#3413 [13:29] <mib_15lxfy> paypal is still recovering after a big attack that took em down some days ago.
#3414 [13:30] <mib_15lxfy> the group called "anonymous" did it lol
#3415 [13:30] <mib_15lxfy> thats why they still may have problems but..
#3416 [13:30] <Kimkarpet> 4chan?
#3417 [13:30] <mib_15lxfy> thanks for help and marry x-mas >,<
#3418 [13:30] <xaviergmail> :O
#3419 [13:30] <mib_15lxfy> or
#3420 [13:30] <mib_15lxfy> soon to be
#3421 [13:30] <mib_15lxfy> lol
#3422 [13:30] <Kealper> thanks, merry early crhistmas to you aswell lol
#3423 [13:31] <mib_15lxfy> pff lol
#3424 [13:31] <xaviergmail> ^ umad?
#3425 [13:31] <Kimkarpet> Keapler, do you know anything about running classic minecraft servers?
#3426 [13:31] <mib_15lxfy> no im not mad lol xD
#3427 [13:31] <Kealper> i used to, but i haven't touched classic in ages :S
#3428 [13:31] <Beachill> how long does it take to upgradwe your minecraft acc?
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#3430 [13:31] <Beachill> im still user not premium after like 20 hours
#3431 [13:31] <Kealper> what about it did you need to know?
#3432 [13:31] <mib_15lxfy> see?
#3433 [13:31] <mib_15lxfy> another guy
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#3435 [13:32] <Kimkarpet> I was wondering how to add ranks into my classic server.
#3436 [13:32] <Kealper> yea, not sure on that
#3437 [13:32] <xaviergmail> Beach, you should get it soon.. the server's really busy
#3438 [13:32] <mbentley> there is someone every 5-10 minutes with the same issue
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#3440 [13:32] <Kealper> hmm....
#3441 [13:32] <Kealper> guess paypal is super fail right now then :S
#3442 [13:32] <mib_15lxfy> yeah but do they ever olve the issue
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#3444 [13:32] <mbentley> need AuBot to autorespond to the word premium :D
#3445 [13:32] <Kealper> lol
#3446 [13:32] <xaviergmail> yea
#3447 [13:32] <Waldfritzchen> hey
#3448 [13:32] <xaviergmail> Kealper, can I bring a bot here? :O
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#3450 [13:33] <Waldfritzchen> i buyed with paypal premium for and hour but i still cant play it!?
#3451 [13:33] <Kealper> xaviergmail: uhh...what would it be doing?
#3452 [13:33] <mib_15lxfy> LMFAO
#3453 [13:33] <mbentley> 13:32 < xaviergmail> Beach, you should get it soon.. the server's really busy
#3454 [13:33] <xaviergmail> when some1 says premium it says server's slow they'll get their acc blablabla and dw :D
#3455 [13:33] <mbentley> same applies for you
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#3457 [13:33] <Kealper> i really should make that respond to "premium" shouldn't i lol
#3458 [13:33] <xaviergmail> ? I have my acc?
#3459 [13:33] <mbentley> the servers are very bogged down from what we can tell hence the delay
#3460 [13:33] <Waldfritzchen> i will get it soon?
#3461 [13:33] <Waldfritzchen> ...
#3462 [13:33] <mbentley> not sure
#3463 [13:34] <xaviergmail> yes
#3464 [13:34] <Waldfritzchen> hope so
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#3466 [13:36] <xaviergmail> kealper do it
#3467 [13:36] <Kealper> oh....you were serious...lol
#3468 [13:36] <xaviergmail> else..
#3469 [13:36] <xaviergmail> yes
#3470 [13:36] <xaviergmail> else
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#3472 [13:36] * xaviergmail brings his own bot in here >:)
#3472 [13:37] * Kealper sighs
#3472 [13:37] <Kealper> gimme a sec lol
#3473 [13:37] <xaviergmail> :d
#3474 [13:37] <xaviergmail> :D
#3475 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Please don't bring another bot in here
#3476 [13:38] <xaviergmail> ok :(
#3477 [13:38] <xaviergmail> all I want is a bot that explains what's happening to the server and payment delay balblabla
#3478 [13:39] <Kealper> yea that's why i'd rather aubot do it instead of having another
#3479 [13:39] <xaviergmail> :D
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#3481 [13:39] <Kealper> it's already in here and has protections against being used to flood the channel
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#3484 [13:40] <Bayon> I have a problem: Can't open windows version execute file. What to do? *both links just give chime-error-sound, and no error report*
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#3487 [13:40] <xaviergmail> premium
#3488 [13:40] <xaviergmail> :(
#3489 [13:40] <xaviergmail> help
#3490 [13:40] <mbentley> Bayon: you sure you have java jre installed?
#3491 [13:40] <Mjiig> Bayon: can you run the online version?
#3492 [13:41] <xaviergmail> "java jre" makes me laugh
#3493 [13:41] <xaviergmail> lool
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#3495 [13:41] <xaviergmail> "java java runtime environment"
#3496 [13:41] <mbentley> guess that is like saying nic card
#3497 [13:41] <mbentley> fail
#3498 [13:41] * DragonOracle lost connection.
#3498 [13:41] <xaviergmail> and java jdk, java java developpement kit
#3499 [13:41] * xaviergmail facepalms
#3499 [13:41] <Mjiig> there are millions of them, dos operating system
#3500 [13:42] <Mjiig> atm machine
#3501 [13:42] <mbentley> but if someone doesn't have java installed, they might not have a clue wtf jre means
#3502 [13:42] <Mjiig> pin number
#3503 [13:42] <xaviergmail> XD
#3504 [13:42] <Mjiig> (i'll stop here)
#3505 [13:42] <xaviergmail> no
#3506 [13:42] <xaviergmail> continue
#3507 [13:42] <Kimkarpet> GreyVulpine, do you know how to implement ranks into a classic minecraft server?
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#3509 [13:43] <DragonOracle> (tryes to re-install java)
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#3512 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Need a classic modded server
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#3514 [13:46] <Kimkarpet> Is Mclal a modded server?
#3515 [13:46] <Kimkarpet> Mclawl*
#3516 [13:47] <Einschtein> Hmm, odd that I have that 'not-enough-memory' message when installing Java.
#3517 [13:47] <Einschtein> =/
#3518 [13:47] <Einschtein> Me no likey
#3519 [13:48] <Kealper> Kimkarpet: i'm 90% sure it would be
#3520 [13:48] <Kealper> does it involve opening any .jar files in winrar?
#3521 [13:49] <Kimkarpet> Does Mclawl does?
#3522 [13:49] <Kealper> lemme just look exactly how it works lol, 1 sec
#3523 [13:50] <Kealper> it's not a modded server, it's a completely different server lol
#3524 [13:50] <Kimkarpet> -_-
#3525 [13:50] <Kimkarpet> Which means?
#3526 [13:50] <Kimkarpet> Which means?
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#3528 [13:51] <Kealper> no code was used or modified from Notch's server software, the person or people did all the coding by themselves
#3529 [13:51] <Kealper> so..basically super not supported in here lol
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#3531 [13:51] <Kimkarpet> Ahhh.. I see, thanks.
#3532 [13:51] <SDiablo{GT}> hi
#3533 [13:53] <SDiablo{GT}> need help: i registrated on homepage, buy the game, payed per paypal and get a email, but ingame it said "user not premium" wtf?
#3534 [13:53] <Mjiig> SDiablo{GT}: the servers under a bit of strain at the moment
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#3536 [13:53] <Mjiig> it will get through soon
#3537 [13:53] <Mjiig> but you need to wait
#3538 [13:53] <SDiablo{GT}> ok so it is no mistake by mysiede :)
#3539 [13:54] <Kealper> no
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#3541 [13:54] <Kealper> it's something up with paypal right now
#3542 [13:54] <SDiablo{GT}> thx alot :)
#3543 [13:54] <Mjiig> Kealper: really, what's wrong with paypal?
#3544 [13:55] <SDiablo{GT}> paypal send me a email, that i payed ^
#3545 [13:55] <Kealper> i'm sure part of the problem is that crappy backend on the minecraft site, but anon doesn't help
#3546 [13:55] <Kealper> well..most of the problem as far as the crappy backend...but...meh
#3547 [13:55] <Mjiig> paypal is registering it, it hasn't got through to the minecraft's database yet
#3548 [13:56] <SDiablo{GT}> ah i understood
#3549 [13:57] * GreyVulpine snickers
#3549 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Conman hopped onto L4D2
#3550 [13:58] <Kealper> orly?
#3551 [13:58] * GreyVulpine nodnods
#3551 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> He got onto a bad team
#3552 [13:58] <Kealper> we should all go and get raped by zombies then
#3553 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> actually
#3554 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> he just rejoined
#3555 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> the bad team again
#3556 [13:59] <Kealper> lol
#3557 [14:01] <Kealper> someone made an mc beta server in Go O.o
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#3559 [14:03] <xaviergmail> go?
#3560 [14:03] <xaviergmail> wtf
#3561 [14:04] <Kealper> a language that Google made
#3562 [14:04] <Kealper> lol
#3563 [14:04] <Kealper> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_%28programming_language%29
#3564 [14:04] <xaviergmail> and my on ym dad's comp I have about 10 fps, he has 1.5gb, intel quadcore and poor graphics card..
#3565 [14:04] <xaviergmail> which one(s) causing the low f[s
#3566 [14:04] <xaviergmail> fps*
#3567 [14:05] <xaviergmail> Kealper: u pro tell me
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#3569 [14:06] <Burnskagen> People
#3570 [14:06] <Burnskagen> I need help
#3571 [14:06] <Burnskagen> I have done lots of shit
#3572 [14:06] <Burnskagen> but 25565 is still closed
#3573 [14:07] <Burnskagen> I have forwarded it twice on the router
#3574 [14:07] <Burnskagen> disabled firewall
#3575 [14:07] <xaviergmail> twice?
#3576 [14:07] <xaviergmail> forwqrded it on TCP ONLY?
#3577 [14:07] <mbentley> it's not your router
#3578 [14:07] <Burnskagen> I did once, and then I removed and did it again as it didn't work
#3579 [14:07] <xaviergmail> if you did UDP/both, it won't work
#3580 [14:07] <xaviergmail> make sure it's on TCP only
#3581 [14:07] <mbentley> if you have the installation media/activation codes for mcafee, i would just try to uninstall it and see if it works then
#3582 [14:07] <Burnskagen> ok
#3583 [14:08] <mbentley> just sayin
#3584 [14:08] <Kealper> now that i'm actually paying attention to this again... xaviergmail it's the graphics that are causing said crappy fps
#3585 [14:08] <xaviergmail> mk
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#3587 [14:08] <Darc> Anyone know why my minecraft is locking up my pc and black screening right after login and downloading files?
#3588 [14:08] <xaviergmail> 4cause minecraft uses 80% of 4gb on my comp
#3589 [14:08] <xaviergmail> 4*.*
#3590 [14:09] <Kealper> Darc: os?
#3591 [14:09] <xaviergmail> 4Darc: OpenGL installed?
#3592 [14:09] <Darc> Win 7 x64
#3593 [14:09] <Kealper> latest java? latest graphics drivers?
#3594 [14:09] <xaviergmail> 4it did that to me cause opengl wasnt installed (school comp)
#3595 [14:09] <mbentley> i get the same thing Darc except it is after like 5-15 minutes of play on a server
#3596 [14:09] <Burnskagen> Let's see if I got it right
#3597 [14:09] <Burnskagen> protocol: TCP
#3598 [14:09] <xaviergmail> 2canyouseeme.org
#3599 [14:09] <xaviergmail> 2yes
#3600 [14:09] <xaviergmail> 2that
#3601 [14:09] <Darc> updated drivers for vid card to latest last night, and it was working, today its not, just tried doing todays update and nothing
#3602 [14:10] <mbentley> no blue
#3603 [14:10] <L551> Is there any way to disable the annoying animals temporarily?
#3604 [14:10] <Burnskagen> Port Range: 25565 - 25565
#3605 [14:10] <mbentley> L551: yes from the server
#3606 [14:10] <L551> Single player
#3607 [14:10] <L551> Not SMP
#3608 [14:10] <xaviergmail> yes
#3609 [14:10] <xaviergmail> options > peacefull mode
#3610 [14:10] <Burnskagen> no
#3611 [14:10] <Burnskagen> only disables enemies
#3612 [14:10] <Mjiig> xaviergmail: that disables monsters doesn't it
#3613 [14:10] <Kealper> Darc: wait, it was working with the old drivers, or the new ones?
#3614 [14:10] <Mjiig> not friendly animals
#3615 [14:10] <xaviergmail> o
#3616 [14:10] <xaviergmail> he said animals
#3617 [14:11] <Burnskagen> go into the jar file and delete the mobs folder
#3618 [14:11] <xaviergmail> use TNT AND OWN THEM ALL
#3619 [14:11] <Burnskagen> but you may need to reinstall the game to get them back
#3620 [14:11] <Burnskagen> but that is fast though
#3621 [14:11] <Darc> both, I installed new drivers to fix crashing every 10-15, but that was fixed by setting draw to normal from far
#3622 [14:11] <L551> I can kill them, yes, but it doesn't stop them from stepping on my minecart tracks
#3623 [14:11] <Mjiig> just out of interest, why do you want to get rid of the animals?
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#3625 [14:11] <xaviergmail> Burnskagen: with TCP only, it should work
#3626 [14:11] <L551> They'll just spawn again
#3627 [14:11] <Mjiig> ah fair enough
#3628 [14:11] <Burnskagen> L551
#3629 [14:11] <mbentley> when i get the black screen, it eventually shows java crashing and windows wanting to submit a bug report
#3630 [14:11] <Burnskagen> you must delete the mobs folder
#3631 [14:12] <xaviergmail> Mjiig: create barriers around them
#3632 [14:12] <mbentley> fences help
#3633 [14:12] <Darc> so I'm not thinking its graphics drivers, but also not ruling them out just yet
#3634 [14:12] <xaviergmail> Mjiig: http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Fence
#3635 [14:12] <L551> I'd have to destroy half the fences in the world to cover them
#3636 [14:12] <L551> *trees
#3637 [14:12] <Burnskagen> press [windows] + R
#3638 [14:12] <L551> I just got up >.>
#3639 [14:12] <mbentley> or run your own server on your lan and and disable animals in the server.properties
#3640 [14:13] <xaviergmail> um
#3641 [14:13] <Burnskagen> type in C:/users/yourname/appdata/.minecraft/
#3642 [14:13] <xaviergmail> get a bow and some arrows
#3643 [14:13] <xaviergmail> burn
#3644 [14:13] <Darc> it will completely lock up my PC when I log in though
#3645 [14:13] <Burnskagen> >:(
#3646 [14:13] <xaviergmail> just start>run>%appdata%
#3647 [14:13] <Burnskagen> ok
#3648 [14:13] <xaviergmail> >:)
#3649 [14:13] <Kealper> Darc: uhh....how much ram do you have? lol
#3650 [14:13] <Burnskagen> then open the bin folder
#3651 [14:13] <Darc> 12 gig
#3652 [14:13] <Burnskagen> and open the minecraft.jar with winrar
#3653 [14:13] <xaviergmail> then deobfuscate it
#3654 [14:13] <Burnskagen> move the folder called mobs to your desktop
#3655 [14:14] <xaviergmail> >:)
#3656 [14:14] <Darc> it also will lock up on browser version too
#3657 [14:14] <Burnskagen> and put it back when you want them back
#3658 [14:14] <Burnskagen> What should I put on trigger protocol?
#3659 [14:14] <Kealper> Darc: that sounds to me like graphics driver issues....have you tried rolling back?
#3660 [14:14] <Burnskagen> and trigger port
#3661 [14:14] <Darc> nope, I can try that
#3662 [14:14] <Zenreich> Burnskagen, %APPDATA% is easier
#3663 [14:14] <xaviergmail> Mjiig: dig 2X1's on the side of your tracks
#3664 [14:15] <xaviergmail> and Zenreich i already said that
#3665 [14:15] <Burnskagen> than what? O_o
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#3667 [14:15] <Zenreich> oh
#3668 [14:15] <Darc> anyone else running latest nvidia drivers?
#3669 [14:15] <Burnskagen> yeah he said it
#3670 [14:15] <Zenreich> xaviergmail, not really paying attention
#3671 [14:15] <xaviergmail> :)
#3672 [14:15] <xaviergmail> me
#3673 [14:15] <Kealper> i use ati :/
#3674 [14:15] <mbentley> Burnskagen: your problem is still on your PC if you can't connect to your server on the lan
#3675 [14:15] <Zenreich> Kealper, lol
#3676 [14:15] <Burnskagen> WHAT THE HEeEeEeEeElL...
#3677 [14:15] <Zenreich> ati
#3678 [14:15] <Burnskagen> should I put on trigger?
#3679 [14:15] <xaviergmail> nvidia
#3680 [14:15] <Zenreich> and ffff
#3681 [14:15] <Zenreich> fucking
#3682 [14:15] <Burnskagen> trigger protocol and trigger port
#3683 [14:15] <Zenreich> MCEdit's frozen at 50% CPU usage for no reason at all
#3684 [14:15] <mbentley> Burnskagen: is that on your router?
#3685 [14:15] <Burnskagen> yes
#3686 [14:16] <xaviergmail> Zenreich: kill the process
#3687 [14:16] <mbentley> the problem isn't on your router man
#3688 [14:16] <xaviergmail> burn
#3689 [14:16] <Burnskagen> ok, I'll leave it alone then :)
#3690 [14:16] <xaviergmail> whats your ip ima see if i can connect
#3691 [14:16] <Burnskagen> ok, wait a second
#3692 [14:16] <Burnskagen> 85.164.195.241
#3693 [14:16] <Burnskagen> and it is running
#3694 [14:17] <Kealper> !check 85.164.195.241
#3695 [14:17] <Burnskagen> !check 85.164.195.241
#3696 [14:17] <Kealper> this does not bode well
#3697 [14:17] <Zenreich> xaviergmail, but then I'll have to reselect everything again ;_____;
#3698 [14:17] <xaviergmail> conenction timeout
#3699 [14:17] <Burnskagen> Everyone gets that
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#3701 [14:17] <xaviergmail> try another port
#3702 [14:17] <Burnskagen> even canyouseeme.org
#3703 [14:18] <xaviergmail> !check 127.0.0.1
#3704 [14:18] <xaviergmail> :D
#3705 [14:18] <xaviergmail> :(
#3706 [14:18] <Zenreich> !check 99craft.dyndns.org
#3707 [14:18] <Burnskagen> which?
#3708 [14:18] <Zenreich> hrm
#3709 [14:18] <xaviergmail> 43954
#3710 [14:18] <Kealper> !check 192.168.1.145
#3711 [14:18] <Kealper> :P
#3712 [14:18] <mbentley> Burnskagen: if you can't hit your server from your lan, you aren't going to access it from the internet
#3713 [14:18] <xaviergmail> lemme port forward mine :O
#3714 [14:18] <L551> Deleting the mob folder stopped nothing
#3715 [14:18] <Burnskagen> I know
#3716 [14:18] <mbentley> i can nearly guarantee that the problem is your firewall on your pc
#3717 [14:18] <xaviergmail> whats the default port again
#3718 [14:18] <mbentley> 25565
#3719 [14:19] <Burnskagen> !check 85.164.195.241
#3720 [14:19] <xaviergmail> wtf
#3721 [14:19] <xaviergmail> I dced when i went on my router O_O
#3722 [14:19] <Burnskagen> :P
#3723 [14:19] <Burnskagen> I killed the Mcafee process
#3724 [14:20] <Burnskagen> and it's still not working
#3725 [14:20] <mbentley> do you have the installation media and key for the software?
#3726 [14:20] <mbentley> (mcafee)
#3727 [14:20] <Burnskagen> I think I can just log in and get it
#3728 [14:20] <Burnskagen> wait a sec
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#3731 [14:21] <xaviergmail> weird
#3732 [14:21] <xaviergmail> [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#3733 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Normal
#3734 [14:21] <Burnskagen> don't mind it
#3735 [14:21] <xaviergmail> o
#3736 [14:21] <xaviergmail> mk
#3737 [14:22] <xaviergmail> !check 24.122.60.136
#3738 [14:22] <xaviergmail> lol
#3739 [14:22] <xaviergmail> took me under 5 mins
#3740 [14:22] <xaviergmail> to download n portforward
#3741 [14:22] <xaviergmail> :D
#3742 [14:23] <Burnskagen> So, I can't login to McAfee
#3743 [14:23] <Burnskagen> -_-
#3744 [14:23] <Burnskagen> I get some weird error all the time
#3745 [14:23] <Burnskagen> so I'll have to wait
#3746 [14:23] <xaviergmail> wtf
#3747 [14:23] <xaviergmail> some1 connect to 24.122.60.136
#3748 [14:23] <xaviergmail> it's glitchy
#3749 [14:25] <Mjiig> the pigs on your server are flashing
#3750 [14:25] <Mjiig> it's odd...
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#3754 [14:30] <mbentley> slutty pigs...
#3755 [14:30] * Pandafk is now known as PandaBear
#3756 [14:34] <xaviergmail> Burnskagen fails :d
#3757 [14:34] <Burnskagen> yeah XD
#3758 [14:35] <Burnskagen> anyways
#3759 [14:35] <xaviergmail> i made a server in 5 mins
#3760 [14:35] <xaviergmail> and you can't even make 1
#3761 [14:35] <xaviergmail> :]
#3762 [14:35] <Burnskagen> Do you have a crappy internet?
#3763 [14:35] <xaviergmail> yes my internet's crappy
#3764 [14:35] <Burnskagen> and *shrugs* McAfee? XD
#3765 [14:35] <xaviergmail> no
#3766 [14:35] <xaviergmail> i dont have any antivirus
#3767 [14:36] <xaviergmail> and no firewalls
#3768 [14:36] <xaviergmail> cause linux's cool like that
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#3770 [14:36] <Burnskagen> I guess
#3771 [14:36] <Burnskagen> not really a fail on me though
#3772 [14:36] <Burnskagen> but a win on you
#3773 [14:36] <xaviergmail> :D
#3774 [14:36] <Burnskagen> ;)
#3775 [14:36] * xaviergmail wins
#3775 [14:36] <xaviergmail> !check google.com
#3776 [14:36] <Mjiig> xaviergmail: strictly speaking you do have a firewall
#3777 [14:37] <xaviergmail> orly?
#3778 [14:37] <Mjiig> iptables is built in
#3779 [14:37] <Burnskagen> bye
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#3781 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> iptables is usually built in, but disabled by default
#3782 [14:37] <xaviergmail> I didn't enable it
#3783 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Or actually.. to be more specific, allows all traffic
#3784 [14:37] <Mjiig> it's working
#3785 [14:37] <Mjiig> it's a firewall
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#3787 [14:38] <Mjiig> it's just not doing anything
#3788 [14:38] <Mjiig> hence "strictly speaking"
#3789 [14:38] <xaviergmail> >.>
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#3793 [14:39] <xaviergmail> if I ever want to make myself a server
#3794 [14:39] <xaviergmail> is there any way to stop cracked nerds from coming into my serve
#3795 [14:40] <Bayon> I have a terrible problem. Can't run the program. (used alt-F4 before saving and closing the game) What to do? I just get no error message or anything else than chimes-sound for error.
#3796 [14:40] <Kealper> xaviergmail: what server? classic or beta?
#3797 [14:40] <mbentley> cracked nerds?
#3798 [14:40] <Bayon> Beta.
#3799 [14:41] <Kealper> uhh... Bayon what do you mean you used alt-F4? that is just like pressing the close button :S
#3800 [14:41] <Bayon> I used Alt-F4...
#3801 [14:41] <Bayon> (windows version)
#3802 [14:42] <Bayon> And the game was runing in there. Just that. Not starting anymore.
#3803 [14:42] <Kealper> hmm....1 sec
#3804 [14:43] <xaviergmail> Kealper the 1 that's in the downod page
#3805 [14:43] <Mjiig> xaviergmail: beta
#3806 [14:43] <Kealper> Bayon: so there are no errors that are thrown when it fails to open?
#3807 [14:44] <Bayon> Nope... Only "chime-sound" and that is it.
#3808 [14:44] <ssen> I need
#3809 [14:44] <ssen> more pylons
#3810 [14:45] <Kealper> Bayon: do you know how to run minecraft.jar through cmd? that might shed some light on what is happening before it closes
#3811 [14:45] <Bayon> I might on Ubuntu... But not in Windows... >_>
#3812 [14:46] <Kealper> uhh....ok then, first go into cmd and type java -version
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#3814 [14:46] <Kealper> just to see if you've got java in your path variable
#3815 [14:47] <Bayon> I have Java installed, re-installed and even deleted from registery and re-installed... >_>
#3816 [14:48] <Bayon> "java version "1.6.0_23" "
#3817 [14:48] <Kealper> i actually just meant if it was set up to be easy to run the jar through cmd or hard to run it lol
#3818 [14:48] <Bayon> Hmmm... *confused*
#3819 [14:49] <Bayon> With correct parameters, I could run it, but I don't know them.
#3820 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Bayon - Quick question, how much RAM do you have on the computer?
#3821 [14:49] <Bayon> A bit under 1GB.
#3822 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> That's why
#3823 [14:49] <Bayon> But it worked before this day. Before I forced it to close by ALT-F4... >_>
#3824 [14:50] <Kealper> minecraft will attempt to start on a computer with 256mb...i tried lol
#3825 [14:50] * GreyVulpine nods
#3825 [14:50] <Kealper> Bayon: go into %appdata%\.minecraft and delete the bin folder
#3826 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Usually, minecraft won't even open when the .exe tries to allocate more RAM than you have on the computer.
#3827 [14:50] <Kealper> then run the game again
#3828 [14:50] <Bayon> I have deleted the whole .minecraft-folder...
#3829 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Bayon, get the .jar
#3830 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to execute commands in the command prompt?
#3831 [14:51] <Bayon> Not in Windows... *sigh*
#3832 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Really simple, could you get the .jar first?
#3833 [14:51] <Bayon> *nod*
#3834 [14:51] <Kealper> Grey, think i should make a debugging program that downloads the jar and runs it, then listens to the game's stderr stream?
#3835 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Nah, this is a simple problem
#3836 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> bayon, I assume you have it automatically download to your "Downloads" folder?
#3837 [14:52] <Bayon> Yup... And .jar-file is downloade.
#3838 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Right, Win+R to bring up run
#3839 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Type in: cmd
#3840 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> then, at the command prompt, type: cd Downloads
#3841 [14:53] <Bayon> I have CMD running on background already.
#3842 [14:53] <Kealper> and i actually didn't mean make it for his sole use, i meant just in general, since it could be helpful lol
#3843 [14:53] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#3843 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Bayon - Do you see it change directory to your downloads folder?
#3844 [14:54] * Bayon is on the download folder already.
#3844 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Okay
#3845 [14:54] <Bayon> And yes, I see it.
#3846 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#3847 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Try it with that
#3848 [14:54] <Bayon> Ok. Now it works. thanks.
#3849 [14:54] * GreyVulpine nods
#3849 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> You can make a batch file with that to run it if you'd like
#3850 [14:55] <Bayon> So... Just asking: No more exe-files for me?
#3851 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Unless you can clean up your RAM usage.. or get more RAm
#3852 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Probably not
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#3854 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> I don't know how much stuff you have running, but less than a gig of RAM on that machine is what's causing the .exe to not execute
#3855 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Don't know how much you have free.
#3856 [14:56] <Bayon> PF Usage: 921 MB
#3857 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> That's your page file.
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#3861 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> If you go to your Task Manager, then Performance.
#3862 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Look at the Physical Memory.
#3863 [14:58] <Bayon> Total: 1036164k (available 186912k)
#3864 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Right, you've got a gig of RAM, how much is Free/Available.
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#3866 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. never mind.
#3867 [14:59] * GreyVulpine is blind
#3867 [14:59] <kage-ookami> a little short of 200MB - not really much to do things with
#3868 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> You've got less than 200 megs of RAM free.
#3869 [14:59] <Bayon> Avaidable is a bit over 185000 (k?)
#3870 [14:59] <Bayon> That is while Minecraft is running.
#3871 [15:00] <Bayon> Java.exe drains now about 293 796k from memory.
#3872 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's still quite low.
#3873 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> All told.
#3874 [15:01] * Bayon has mini-laptop from Acer. (Acer Aspire One)
#3874 [15:01] <Bayon> Thanks from your reply. I still play it and return for more help, if needed. :)
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#3876 [15:02] <Kealper> netbooks...
#3877 [15:02] * Kealper shudders
#3877 [15:03] * GreyVulpine blehs
#3877 [15:03] * GreyVulpine wishes he could pile it all into one landfill and nuke it from orbit.
#3877 [15:04] <Mjiig> i'd quite like a touch screen netbook
#3878 [15:04] <Mjiig> but not for all my work
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#3880 [15:04] <Kealper> i've got a touchscreen laptop...but it doesn't count, since it's 11 years old -.-
#3881 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez
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#3883 [15:04] <Kealper> and i may have aquired it from a hospital...is that wrong?
#3884 [15:04] * GreyVulpine snickers
#3884 [15:05] <Kealper> it and it's blazing fast 700mhz p3 with 256mb of ram..and 8mb of onboard video ram
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#3886 [15:05] <Kealper> plays half-life fine until you need to go underwater lol
#3887 [15:07] <Zircon_X> Good morning Minecraft
#3888 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> G'afternoon
#3889 [15:07] <Zircon_X> Hey
#3890 [15:07] <Kealper> hullo
#3891 [15:07] <Zircon_X> Those P3s are excellent processors
#3892 [15:08] <Kealper> lol
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#3897 [15:13] <SDiablo{GT}> wtf? i wait 2-3 hours and my account is not premium, this is too much time....there is something buggy
#3898 [15:14] <Kealper> SDiablo{GT}: yes, payments have been very slow to be recognized recently, it could take up to a day
#3899 [15:14] <SDiablo{GT}> lol sell the game per steam, there are no problems ^^
#3900 [15:14] <Kealper> if it takes any longer than a day, you can email payment@mojang.com with an attached copy of your paypal reciept to prove you actually paid
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#3902 [15:15] <SDiablo{GT}> k
#3903 [15:15] <Kealper> since the game is not officially released (still in beta) steam won't take it
#3904 [15:15] <Kealper> techincally what we all bought was a pre-purchase for the finished game, and we get to play development builds until it's done
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#3906 [15:16] <cutze2k> Hey
#3907 [15:16] <Kealper> ello
#3908 [15:16] <cutze2k> need an admin or support helper have a problem
#3909 [15:16] <Kealper> is it about your account not saying premium even though you bought the game a few hours ago?
#3910 [15:17] <cutze2k> yep,but i bought it 10 mins before
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#3912 [15:17] <Mjiig> cutze2k: give it some time, it's slow today
#3913 [15:17] <Kealper> yea....payments have been being super slow today :S
#3914 [15:18] <cutze2k> hope youre right :) thx
#3915 [15:18] <cutze2k> how long will it approximately take?? minutes,hours day? cuz i bought mine yesterday and got it within 1 minute
#3916 [15:19] <Mjiig> cutze2k: give it a day at least
#3917 [15:19] <Mjiig> hopefully things will be sorted or at least better by then
#3918 [15:20] <cutze2k> game is awesome anyway,addictive :) is there a release date yet for the "official" version or full version?
#3919 [15:20] <Kealper> i really hope they are in the process of rewriting that backend for recieving payment notifications....it seems to really suck
#3920 [15:21] <Kealper> cutze2k: nope "S
#3921 [15:21] <Kealper> :S*
#3922 [15:21] <cutze2k> oh ok
#3923 [15:21] <nipper> Wonder if the smp server will ever use less resources.
#3924 [15:21] <cutze2k> i think not...but we will see
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#3927 [15:22] <cutze2k> fellows,anyone of you got me an ip for a quite good server?
#3928 [15:23] <Kealper> there is actually an entire irc channel dedicated to smp server ips lol
#3929 [15:23] <Kealper> type /join #smp
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#3931 [15:23] <cutze2k> thx buddy :)
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#3938 [15:30] <vuln> hello
#3939 [15:31] <xales> yello
#3940 [15:31] <xales> hello*
#3941 [15:31] <vuln> erm
#3942 [15:31] <Kealper> lol
#3943 [15:31] <vuln> how long could it take between buy of minecraft and aktivation of my account?
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#3946 [15:31] <Kealper> normally instant...today...uhh, yea..not so much
#3947 [15:32] <vuln> k thanx
#3948 [15:32] <Mjiig> how did i know they were going to ask that?
#3949 [15:32] <vuln> :)
#3950 [15:32] <Kealper> there have been quite a few problems today, give it some time
#3951 [15:32] <vuln> okay
#3952 [15:32] <xales> Kealper: maybe put it in topic?
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#3954 [15:32] <xales> I doubt people would read it, but some might
#3955 [15:32] <Kealper> no one reads the topic anyways
#3956 [15:32] <Mjiig> Kealper: is it worth adding something to AUbots welcome message that explains this
#3957 [15:33] <Kealper> i was going to do that until i got sidetracked...1 sec lol
#3958 [15:33] <xales> Mjiig: the bot shouldnt be the one greeting, i think you should stay here all day and greet everyone :P
#3959 [15:33] <Mjiig> or so we can request the bot to give a canned response when someone asks?
#3960 [15:33] <Mjiig> xales: but i have sleeping to do...
#3961 [15:34] <Kealper> but what if the bot wants to sleep?
#3962 [15:34] <xales> Mjiig: learn to greet&sleep?
#3963 [15:34] <Kealper> lol
#3964 [15:34] <xales> poor bots :(
#3965 [15:34] <Mjiig> Kealper: remove the line from the bot that makes it intelligent
#3966 [15:35] <Kealper> i tried, it just types to the stdout "I'm sorry Ken, I'm affraid I can't let you do that."
#3967 [15:35] <xales> Kealper: do you want me to bring a greetbot here?
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#3970 [15:35] <Kealper> O.o
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#3972 [15:37] <Kealper> alrighty...is this good enough? "Welcome to #MinecraftHelp! Please ask your question, and someone will try to answer it and help you as soon as they can! 04PLEASE DO NOT ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY SORT OF MODS FOR THE SERVER OR THE CLIENT! ANY QUESTION PRETAINING TO MODS WILL BE IGNORED! | Please note: minecraft.net is currently having issues recieving payment notifications today; Your payment did go though! Just sit tight
#3973 [15:37] <Kealper> for about a day or so, it will get recognized eventually."
#3974 [15:38] <Kealper> that didn't work
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#3977 [15:38] <Kealper> meh...it'll be fine enough
#3978 [15:39] <xales> Kealper: what didn't work?
#3979 [15:39] <Kealper> xchat sent it in two messages instead of one
#3980 [15:39] <xales> oh
#3981 [15:40] <xales> yeah, messages have a max length
#3982 [15:40] <Kealper> those packet sizes are weak
#3983 [15:40] <xales> limitation in the protocol, it was created in 1988, never changed T_T
#3984 [15:41] <Kealper> eh?
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#3986 [15:41] <mbentley> could prolly shorten up the 'we don't answer questions about mods section'
#3987 [15:41] <Mjiig> stupid 20 year old technology
#3988 [15:41] <Kealper> the protocol can have more than that, i'd almost be willing to bet that limit is set in xchat
#3989 [15:41] <Mjiig> (although email is around 20 years old an it's going strong)
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#3992 [15:43] <Kealper> hmm...
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#3994 [15:43] <xalesbot> Welcome to #MinecraftHelp! Please ask your question, and someone will try to answer it and help you as soon as they can! ANY QUESTION PRETAINING TO MODS WILL BE IGNORED! | Please note: minecraft.net is currently having issues recieving payment notifications today; Your payment did go though! Just sit tight for about a day or so, it will get recognized eventually.
#3995 [15:43] <xales> that work ok?
#3996 [15:44] <Einschtein> I kinda need your guys help again ;p
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#3998 [15:44] <xalesbot> Welcome to #MinecraftHelp! Please ask your question, and someone will try to answer it and help you as soon as they can! ANY QUESTION PRETAINING TO MODS WILL BE IGNORED! | Please note: minecraft.net is currently having issues recieving payment notifications today; Your payment did go though! Just sit tight for about a day or so, it will get recognized eventually.
#3999 [15:44] <Kealper> oh lord
#4000 [15:44] <Einschtein> Solly :(
#4001 [15:44] <Kealper> that will get real old real fast
#4002 [15:44] <Einschtein> 21:42:41 Kicking /IP: You need to log in!
#4003 [15:44] <xales> Kealper: it can PM it to clients
#4004 [15:44] <Kealper> not you Einschtein lol
#4005 [15:44] <xales> or notice or whatever
#4006 [15:45] <Kealper> xales: i'll just have aubot do it in it's join notice
#4007 [15:45] <xales> ok
#4008 [15:45] <xales> .quit
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#4010 [15:45] <Kealper> Einschtein: are you trying to play classic or alpha?
#4011 [15:46] <Kealper> ok, here is the new motd
#4012 [15:46] <Kealper> "16Welcome to #MinecraftHelp! Don't ask to ask, just ask! 04WE DO NOT PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THIRD PARTY MODS! | Please note: minecraft.net is currently having issues recieving payment notifications today; Just sit tight for about a day or so, your payment will get recognized eventually!"
#4013 [15:47] <mbentley> looks good
#4014 [15:47] * Kealper adds another |
#4014 [15:47] <Mjiig> some text is white for me...
#4015 [15:47] <Kealper> i'm forcing it to white
#4016 [15:47] <Kealper> actually
#4017 [15:47] <Kealper> wait
#4018 [15:47] <Kealper> that's a bad idea
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#4020 [15:48] <Kealper> !reload mod_motd
#4021 [15:48] <Kealper> !motd
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#4024 [15:49] <Kealper> lul...glados didn't set me on chanserv's aop
#4025 [15:49] <xales> lol
#4026 [15:49] <Kealper> yea, looks fine now
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#4029 [15:49] <xales> yup
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#4031 [15:50] <Kealper> danke
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#4034 [15:51] <smargoos> hi everybody
#4035 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Hi Dr. Nick.
#4036 [15:51] <smargoos> why can i go through my portal to nether in my own server?
#4037 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Nether portals don't work in SMP
#4038 [15:52] <smargoos> why?
#4039 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Right now, servers can't run the overworld and nether at the same time
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#4041 [15:52] <smargoos> boring :(
#4042 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Notch is planning on having nether portals act as inter-server portals.
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#4044 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> So.. yeah
#4045 [15:52] <xales> huh I wonder why i left the channel. cant remember closing this O_o
#4046 [15:52] <smargoos> now ill never get to nether
#4047 [15:52] <brachiel> hi there; can anyone point me in the direction of the live-stream irc channel?
#4048 [15:53] <Kealper> i didn't even know there was one
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#4050 [15:54] <Kealper> brachiel: do you mean so you can chat in that chat box on the livestream?
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#4052 [15:54] <xales> UStream uses IRC for chat services; livestream does not :(
#4053 [15:55] <brachiel> Kealper: well, since he just moved some irc windows around, I thought there was an irc channel he's on reading...
#4054 [15:55] <xales> brachiel: that was a long time ago, he hardly ever comes on any more
#4055 [15:55] <xales> but the channel is #minecraft
#4056 [15:55] <Kealper> yea, that's a recording on itright now
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#4058 [15:55] <Kealper> it right*
#4059 [15:55] <brachiel> oh I see
#4060 [15:55] <brachiel> thanks guys
#4061 [15:55] <Kealper> np
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#4063 [15:55] <xales> too many people are "OMG its NOTCH!!1one`imdumbone1"
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#4067 [15:58] <smargoos> now i am sitting in lonely 3x3x3 box made of obsidian :D
#4068 [15:58] <smargoos> no creeper can blast through it
#4069 [15:58] <xales> smargoos: I sure hope you have a diamond pick on you
#4070 [15:58] <smargoos> no i dont
#4071 [15:59] <smargoos> but i can get one
#4072 [15:59] <xales> lol
#4073 [15:59] <smargoos> what was that number for diamond pick?
#4074 [15:59] <smargoos> 278
#4075 [16:00] <Kealper> yea
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#4077 [16:01] <smargoos> hmm next thing i could blast that damn big mountain to dust
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#4079 [16:01] <Kealper> O.o
#4080 [16:01] <smargoos> with tnt dynamite :D
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#4082 [16:03] <Elefantbob> How longe will there go before you can play the game ? i Purchased it for 2 hours ago??
#4083 [16:03] <Kealper> Elefantbob: read what AuBot told you after you first joined this channel
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#4089 [16:10] <Dakafall> Hey everyone, quick question. I want to setup a site for my Minecraft server, and was wondering if there are any website scripts that can directly tie into the server? You might not be able to provide support for that, but was wondering if it was possible
#4090 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/McMyAdmin
#4091 [16:11] <Dakafall> Thank you!
#4092 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Take precautions though, McMyAdmin isn't exactly the most secure.
#4093 [16:13] <Dakafall> Ill give it a once over and see if I like it or not
#4094 [16:13] <Dakafall> Its time to think of a witty name for my server
#4095 [16:14] <Kealper> McMyAdmin is the good one, MCAdmin is the unsecure one
#4096 [16:14] <Kealper> MCAdmin is just a server wrapper, McMyAdmin gives a web interface for the server and other stuff
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#4102 [16:18] <Glooms> Hey All, I've just purchased an account.. do you know if he manually approves them? It's not showing up as premium yet. thx!
#4103 [16:18] <Hayden> Can some one help me?
#4104 [16:18] <Hayden> Same glooms!
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#4106 [16:19] <Hayden> D: My Account Is Not Showing Premium Yet
#4107 [16:19] <Glooms> i'm hoping he's not gone for the holdiays! lol
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#4109 [16:19] <Kealper> please read what AuBot told you both when you joined the channel
#4110 [16:19] <Hayden> Hhaaha
#4111 [16:19] <Mjiig> read the message AUbot sent you when you logged in
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#4113 [16:19] <Hayden> O Sorry
#4114 [16:19] <Hayden> Thanks
#4115 [16:19] <Glooms> ahh, i see. thanks and sorry!
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#4117 [16:20] <Kealper> np lol, there have been TONS of issues today
#4118 [16:20] <Waaromwerktieniet> I just bought the game, when do I recieve a key?
#4119 [16:20] <Mjiig> read the message AUbot sent you when you logged in
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#4123 [16:21] <PxLx314> uhm
#4124 [16:22] <PxLx314> is there anyone that can me answer a question about gift keys ?
#4125 [16:22] <Mjiig> have you not been sent it yet?
#4126 [16:22] <PxLx314> yah
#4127 [16:22] <Mjiig> read the message AUbot sent you when you logged in
#4128 [16:23] <Kealper[Mib]> i don't see how people miss that message when using mibbit
#4129 [16:23] <PxLx314> =O
#4130 [16:23] <PxLx314> hmm
#4131 [16:24] <Mjiig> it's part red and everything...
#4132 [16:24] <PxLx314> olol
#4133 [16:24] <Mjiig> maybe a canned response would be better
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#4135 [16:24] <Kealper[Mib]> on mibbit it's all red, and bold...and one part is even redder....meh
#4136 [16:24] <PxLx314> ther is so much spam in irc so i missed it =)
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#4139 [16:26] <tek2974> hello all
#4140 [16:26] <Kealper> ello
#4141 [16:26] <tek2974> just registered about half an hour ago and paid, still saying that I don't have a premium account
#4142 [16:26] <tek2974> paid through paypal and the transaction completed
#4143 [16:26] <Mjiig> read the message aubot sent you when you logged in
#4144 [16:27] <tek2974> what message?
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#4146 [16:27] <Kealper> !motd
#4147 [16:27] <Kealper> [16:27] -AuBot- Welcome to #MinecraftHelp! Don't ask to ask, just ask! | WE DO NOT PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THIRD PARTY MODS! | Please note: minecraft.net is currently having issues recieving payment notifications today; Just sit tight for about a day or so, your payment will get recognized eventually!
#4148 [16:27] <tek2974> ah
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#4150 [16:28] <Mjiig> kealper can you get it to repeat that message on demand? easier than telling people to read it every time
#4151 [16:28] <Kealper> define repeat on demand?
#4152 [16:28] <tek2974> well, i'll bbl if it doesn't come up by monday. cya and thanks
#4153 [16:29] <xales> Kealper: like the !server command
#4154 [16:29] <xales> make it say it in the chan
#4155 [16:29] <xales> I believe is what Mjiig is asking for
#4156 [16:29] <Mjiig> as in so that we could time something that made aubot repeat that message
#4157 [16:29] <Mjiig> like !premium
#4158 [16:29] <Kealper> uhh...that would just be annoying as crap if it said it each time someone joined
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#4160 [16:29] <Kealper> i could make the !motd command say it to the channel...that would be less annoying i guess
#4161 [16:30] <mbentley> like if someone could write a canned answer and if someone asks, we could just do !premium and it would spit out the canned answer
#4162 [16:30] <SycoPrime> Can't bots automatically send a message to new users on join?
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#4164 [16:30] <Mjiig> yes but they're ignoring it...
#4165 [16:30] <mib_is49qx> *sigh*
#4166 [16:31] <mib_is49qx> still nothing...
#4167 [16:31] <mib_is49qx> been waiting for 5 hours still not premium acc..
#4168 [16:31] <mib_is49qx> im startin to give up...
#4169 [16:31] <Mjiig> unfortunately we run neither minecraft nor paypal
#4170 [16:31] <mib_is49qx> yeha
#4171 [16:31] <mib_is49qx> i'll see tommorow
#4172 [16:31] <SycoPrime> Can someone tell me how to host an SMP server? I got creative working, and I've been checking (probably the wrong part of) the forums.
#4173 [16:31] <mib_is49qx> hope it will be there.,
#4174 [16:31] <Mjiig> and notch is probably already buried in email about this
#4175 [16:31] <Mjiig> it WILL get sorted out
#4176 [16:32] <mbentley> SycoPrime: http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#4177 [16:32] <mib_is49qx> i dont need to re-buy then?`mjiig?
#4178 [16:32] <Mjiig> but you'd be better coming back tomorrow than repeatedly coming in toda
#4179 [16:32] <Mjiig> *today
#4180 [16:32] <mbentley> no need to buy it again
#4181 [16:32] <Kealper> no mib_is49qx, that will just get backed up aswell
#4182 [16:32] <mib_is49qx> i understand, thanks for support Kealper and Mjiig..
#4183 [16:33] <Kealper> !reload mod_motd
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#4185 [16:34] <Kealper> !premium
#4186 [16:34] <Kealper> dangit
#4187 [16:34] <xales> !motd
#4188 [16:34] <Kealper> !reload mod_motd
#4189 [16:34] <SycoPrime> Thank you, mbentley. I'll play around with what I'm seeing, but the short answer is just change some settings in server.properties?
#4190 [16:34] <Kealper> !premium
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#4192 [16:35] <mib_is49qx> umm nice auto
#4193 [16:35] <mib_is49qx> ROFL
#4194 [16:35] * Mjiig pats kealper on back
#4194 [16:35] <mib_is49qx> bt
#4195 [16:35] <mib_is49qx> thanks
#4196 [16:35] <Kealper> lol
#4197 [16:35] <mbentley> SycoPrime: sorry, i didn't see your original question about server.properties
#4198 [16:35] <mbentley> you say you are running classic
#4199 [16:36] <mbentley> to run smp, it is a different .jar/.exe
#4200 [16:36] <mbentley> !server
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#4203 [16:39] <SycoPrime> I'm running (or trying to run) Beta client / server.
#4204 [16:39] <Kealper> what issues are you running in to?
#4205 [16:39] <SycoPrime> Currently connecting to the server results in creative, I'm trying to make it survival.
#4206 [16:39] <mbentley> you need a new server and new client then
#4207 [16:40] <mbentley> they are totally separate projects
#4208 [16:40] <SycoPrime> New client as well? O_o okay. I was pretty sure about the server. Where do I get them?
#4209 [16:40] <Kealper> SycoPrime: you did buy minecraft beta, right?
#4210 [16:40] <SycoPrime> Yes.
#4211 [16:40] <Kealper> ok
#4212 [16:40] <SycoPrime> No.
#4213 [16:40] <SycoPrime> I bought Alpha.
#4214 [16:40] <mbentley> !server
#4215 [16:40] <mbentley> !client
#4216 [16:40] <Kealper> well, same difference lol
#4217 [16:40] <Kealper> mbentley: flood control
#4218 [16:40] <mbentley> !client
#4219 [16:40] <Kealper> !client
#4220 [16:41] <Kealper> w/e lol
#4221 [16:41] <mbentley> Kealper: flood control
#4222 [16:41] <mbentley> :p
#4223 [16:41] <Kealper> lol
#4224 [16:41] <mbentley> hehe
#4225 [16:41] <SycoPrime> haha
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#4227 [16:44] <Kealper> i should really add seconds to the timestamps on my client :S
#4228 [16:44] <SycoPrime> Is there a FAQ or what have you for this server?
#4229 [16:45] <Kealper> the beta server?
#4230 [16:45] <DopeGhoti> SycoPrime: The Wiki is fairly exhaustive
#4231 [16:45] <SycoPrime> Oh
#4232 [16:45] <Kealper> testing....
#4233 [16:45] <Kealper> that's better
#4234 [16:45] <SycoPrime> So...this is a lesser known Notch "in development" deal, not a community created server?
#4235 [16:45] <SycoPrime> And all of the stuff applicable to what I had downloaded before is applicable to this.
#4236 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> define 'this'
#4237 [16:46] <SycoPrime> The download AuBot linked me, which I am now running.
#4238 [16:46] <Kealper> uhh...yes Notch makes this survival mode, and this irc tech support is community-run
#4239 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> right, that's the official server.
#4240 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: congrats on your shiny new magic @!
#4241 [16:46] <Kealper> thanks lol
#4242 [16:47] <Kealper> i hardly had to suck anything for it either!
#4243 [16:47] * DopeGhoti thinks he hears a TMI detector going off somewhere..
#4243 [16:48] <Kealper> so...i just learned today that there was Strawberry Crush...
#4244 [16:48] <Kealper> lol
#4245 [16:48] <Kealper> (Crush is a soda, for all who don't know)
#4246 [16:49] <SycoPrime> Hopefully this is the last stupid question.
#4247 [16:49] <mbentley> there are no stupid questions
#4248 [16:50] <Kealper> no question is stupid, unless the questioneer is a troll lol
#4249 [16:50] <mbentley> just stupid people :P
#4250 [16:50] <SycoPrime> Trying to test my ports by going to minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=MY_EXTERNAL_IP_ADDRESS&port=25565
#4251 [16:50] <Kealper> uhh...what he said
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#4253 [16:50] <SycoPrime> But I get "You can't connect to the server via this url any more!", and it loads into some weird world that looks nothing like what the local client displayed.
#4254 [16:50] <Kealper> you don't use that page for beta servers
#4255 [16:50] <mbentley> SycoPrime: that is for classic
#4256 [16:50] <Yossi> So my b/f set up a minecraft server and it's causing crashers
#4257 [16:50] <SycoPrime> Oh.
#4258 [16:50] <mbentley> just say !check <server ip>
#4259 [16:50] <mbentley> in here
#4260 [16:50] <Yossi> craches*
#4261 [16:50] <Yossi> DAMN it
#4262 [16:50] <SycoPrime> !check 71.48.63.229
#4263 [16:50] <Yossi> crashes*
#4264 [16:51] <Kealper> lol
#4265 [16:51] <Kealper> if it has not responded yet...that means it probably could not find it
#4266 [16:51] <mbentley> Yossi: what sort of errors?
#4267 [16:51] <Yossi> Is there a source of info that he can use to troubleshoot?
#4268 [16:51] <Kealper> Yossi: us :P
#4269 [16:51] <Yossi> Some long java error
#4270 [16:52] <Yossi> i'm a touch of a techtard...
#4271 [16:52] <Yossi> D:
#4272 [16:52] <Mjiig> Kealper: do you know why it takes so long to respond?
#4273 [16:52] <Kealper> can you paste it into http://pastebin.com and give us the link?
#4274 [16:52] <Kealper> Mjiig: it's the way tcp makes connections
#4275 [16:52] <Kealper> if it finds the ip, but is not responded to on a connection attempt, it will wait there for like 10 sec or so for a response before considering it blocked
#4276 [16:53] <Yossi> I can, let me get out of singleplayer!
#4277 [16:53] <Mjiig> ahh yes, i forgot it was only slow on the ones where it was checking ips...
#4278 [16:54] <mbentley> another good place for info would be the forums (http://www.minecraftforum.net)
#4279 [16:54] <mbentley> people tend to ask about errors there and people document known causes, etc
#4280 [16:55] <Yossi> is the error when i try to log into the browser at all
#4281 [16:55] <Yossi> http://pastebin.com/3vQS9iKJ
#4282 [16:55] <Kealper> that's most likely caused by out-of-date video card drivers, or a video card that does not have any hardware support for what minecraft uses for graphics
#4283 [16:56] <Yossi> running on OS X 10.6.5
#4284 [16:56] <Kealper> what model of mac do you have?
#4285 [16:56] <Yossi> mini
#4286 [16:56] <Kealper> hmm...how old is it?
#4287 [16:56] <Yossi> maybe a year?
#4288 [16:57] <SycoPrime> Doesn't ATI have an autodetect on their website?
#4289 [16:57] <Kealper> hmmmm....
#4290 [16:57] <SycoPrime> Also, she just said she was playing Sp.
#4291 [16:57] <SycoPrime> So maybe s'not her computer, but the one causing the error.
#4292 [16:57] <Yossi> The single player client works like a dream
#4293 [16:57] <Kealper> SycoPrime: indeed you are correct, sir, i did not even see that lol
#4294 [16:58] <SycoPrime> :)
#4295 [16:58] <Kealper> well then...i actually don't know how the server is causing a clientside opengl error....
#4296 [16:58] <Yossi> Cant log in to multiplayer at all from the client, it either crashes or times out, he may be puttering with it right now
#4297 [16:58] <Kealper> Yossi: have you tried other servers?
#4298 [16:58] <Yossi> no… how can I do that?
#4299 [16:58] <SycoPrime> Yossi, does that error occur on your client, or on another client?
#4300 [16:59] <SycoPrime> Like one on a different machine
#4301 [16:59] <Kealper> try connecting to the address mc.kealper.com
#4302 [16:59] <Kealper> and i think i know the problem...
#4303 [16:59] <Yossi> i think it is letting me in to yours
#4304 [16:59] <Yossi> yep!
#4305 [17:00] <Yossi> how do i chat in game?
#4306 [17:00] <Kealper> press t
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#4309 [17:03] <Utoxin> How do you set up a server to support the nether?
#4310 [17:03] <Mjiig> Utoxin: you don't
#4311 [17:03] <Kealper> for the most part, you can't
#4312 [17:03] <Utoxin> Awwwww.
#4313 [17:03] <Mjiig> the nether doesn't work in SMP yet
#4314 [17:03] <Utoxin> I wanted to hook my Stargate to the Nether. :(
#4315 [17:03] <Kealper> lol
#4316 [17:03] <mistenkt> anyone got a moment to help me install wild grass mod?
#4317 [17:03] <Kealper> type !motd
#4318 [17:04] <mistenkt> keep getting stuck at the loading screen after installing it
#4319 [17:04] <mistenkt> !motd
#4320 [17:04] <mistenkt> ok
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#4322 [17:04] <mistenkt> so where can i find a minecraft chan that is about everything that has to do with minecraft?
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#4324 [17:06] <Smiley> #minecraft
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#4326 [17:06] <Smiley> xD
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#4328 [17:06] <Yossi> …is this a private server?
#4329 [17:07] * [Husky]Shnaw is now known as [Husky]Shnaw|Not-Here
#4330 [17:07] <Kealper> Yossi: mine is, yes
#4331 [17:07] <Kealper> anyways
#4332 [17:08] <Mjiig> Kealper: did you build that using standard mincrafting or did you use any map editors?
#4333 [17:09] <Kealper> that was all done by hand, and what was not done by mining the stuff was done with spawning it and building it by hand
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#4335 [17:09] <Kealper> nothing in my server is map-edited, the closest would be the subway system, which was built by spawning all the items instead of crafting them
#4336 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> pansy :)
#4337 [17:10] <Kealper> lol
#4338 [17:10] <Kealper> most of the subway is underwater...i'd still be waiting for sand to bake if i crafted it all :P
#4339 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: http://www.evernote.com/pub/dopeghoti/Screenshots#v=t&n=b3888665-ba6a-49b1-b9cd-c228d2b22257&b=0
#4340 [17:10] <Yossi> That's insane, Kealper! I'm so new to this whole thing… it's overwhelming what can be done.
#4341 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> all handbuilt, with manually obtained materials :)
#4342 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> (be several people)
#4343 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> s/be/by/
#4344 [17:11] <Kealper> Yossi: you should have seen my last map then, it had tons of mega structures that were all hand built
#4345 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> hand-built by people like myself who have full-time jobs :)
#4346 [17:11] <Yossi> You people are insane! I'm so excited to play this game!
#4347 [17:11] <Kealper> lol
#4348 [17:12] <Kealper> according to that site i'm using a browser that they do not support
#4349 [17:12] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/mc
#4350 [17:12] <lemon-rev> kealper how you get shots like that
#4351 [17:12] <lemon-rev> ?
#4352 [17:12] <Kealper> those are done with programs like Cartograph
#4353 [17:13] <lemon-rev> and that mixes with mc
#4354 [17:13] <lemon-rev> ?
#4355 [17:13] <lemon-rev> or the map
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#4357 [17:13] <Kealper> it just reads the map file and generates images from it
#4358 [17:13] <lemon-rev> nice
#4359 [17:13] * Utoxin wishes you could just make a giant portal by surrounding an area with obsidian.
#4359 [17:13] <Utoxin> That would be PERFECT for my Stargate.
#4360 [17:14] <Kealper> lol
#4361 [17:15] <Kealper> anyways, Yossi: delete your server's files, and redownload the server files, because yours is probably a classic server and not a beta server
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#4363 [17:15] <Yossi> ok i will tell him to do that. i guess his t1 line just took a dump in the neighborhood so its down either way
#4364 [17:15] <Coll> is there a way to limit how much of the cpu minecraft eats
#4365 [17:16] <Kealper> Coll: the client or server?
#4366 [17:16] <Coll> client
#4367 [17:16] <Kealper> no
#4368 [17:16] <Coll> dam
#4369 [17:16] <Coll> it is either run both on one box
#4370 [17:16] <Kealper> any 3d game will use a ton of cpu, because it's got to do a ton of math
#4371 [17:16] <Coll> using both cores
#4372 [17:16] <Coll> which lag crazy for the client
#4373 [17:16] <Coll> or have them run on seperate cores
#4374 [17:17] <Coll> and have the client run fine but it takes forever to load chunks
#4375 [17:17] <Kealper> just set them to different cores
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#4377 [17:17] <Coll> they are on seperate cores but then I do that boxes take forever to open and chunks go missing for about a minute or two
#4378 [17:18] <Kealper> oh...also i didn't notice your question before you left the server: http://minecraftskins.com for that index of skins
#4379 [17:18] <SycoPrime> !check 69.59.71.96
#4380 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> I wonder..
#4381 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> !check 127.0.01
#4382 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> !check 127.0.0.1
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#4384 [17:19] <Kealper> no, it's not on the same machine as my server atm
#4385 [17:19] <Coll> what Dope
#4386 [17:19] <SycoPrime> Since AuBot is doing the pinging, that'd only work if a server was running locally on its machine.
#4387 [17:19] <Coll> lol
#4388 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> SycoPrime: I know
#4389 [17:20] <Coll> why is he checking localhost
#4390 [17:20] <Coll> XD
#4391 [17:20] <SycoPrime> So...."Unknown Host"...if the machine's in the router's DMZ
#4392 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> I was seeing if AuBot shared server space with a MC server :)
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#4394 [17:20] <SycoPrime> And Windows Firewall is off
#4395 [17:20] <SycoPrime> What's the next thing to check?
#4396 [17:20] <Kealper> normally it is but i've moved my server to my main computer to see if that fixed the lag before the leaf decay fix
#4397 [17:20] <Kealper> and just been too lazy to move it back to my actual server lol
#4398 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> heh
#4399 [17:20] <Coll> well I wish I could run the server on another box
#4400 [17:21] <Coll> but
#4401 [17:21] <Coll> it wont stay conencted to the router for w/e the reason
#4402 [17:21] <Coll> so all I got is a ethernet cross over
#4403 [17:21] <Kealper> SycoPrime: you are positive port 25565 on TCP is forwarded to the correct computer?
#4404 [17:21] <Coll> but I have no idea how to get that setup
#4405 [17:21] <Kealper> Coll: wireless for a server? eew
#4406 [17:21] <mib_914igr> anyone know how to get a texture pack in my minecraft game I watched videos and di exactly as they did and nothing, anyone help?
#4407 [17:21] <Coll> Kealper
#4408 [17:22] <Coll> it would work fine
#4409 [17:22] <Coll> but for somereason my other computer
#4410 [17:22] <SycoPrime> Kealper: Didn't bother with port forwarding. But the correct IP is in the router's DMZ, so all ports are effectively forwarded.
#4411 [17:22] <Coll> wont stay connected to it
#4412 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> mib_914igr: start minecraft, click 'mods and skins', click 'show directory', put skin zipfile into that directory, enjoy.
#4413 [17:22] <Kealper> SycoPrime: uhh....for the sake of trying, set it up with a forwarded port
#4414 [17:22] <SycoPrime> k
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#4416 [17:23] <Coll> Kealper any way to get this going via a crossover? >.>;
#4417 [17:24] <Mjiig> I must away. Merry Christmas Eve Eve to you all :)
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#4422 [17:25] <SycoPrime> Coll: How many ethernet ports on your router?
#4423 [17:25] <Coll> it doesnt matter
#4424 [17:25] <Coll> the router is too far away
#4425 [17:25] <Coll> and I cant move it any closer
#4426 [17:25] <SycoPrime> Oh, crossover from one machine to the other.
#4427 [17:25] <Coll> so I got either wireless or a crossover
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#4429 [17:25] <Coll> yes
#4430 [17:25] <SycoPrime> Buy an access point ;)
#4431 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> or a longer ethernet cable
#4432 [17:26] <SycoPrime> You can set up Internet Connection Sharing from one machine to another.
#4433 [17:26] <Coll> the router is perfectly capable of wireless
#4434 [17:26] <Coll> the other box is being a dick
#4435 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> oh god ICS
#4436 [17:26] <Coll> and I have no money
#4437 [17:26] <santa> why doesn't the texture pack download correctly
#4438 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> shoot me now.
#4439 [17:26] <SycoPrime> Yeah, Dope, I was going to warn him :P
#4440 [17:26] <mbentley> KILL IT WITH FIRE
#4441 [17:26] <Coll> Syco would love too
#4442 [17:26] <Coll> but it is so bitchy
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#4444 [17:26] <mbentley> (ICS that is)
#4445 [17:26] <Coll> so unless you can guide me into setting it up in a way that will make it work
#4446 [17:26] <Coll> let me know
#4447 [17:27] <mib_914igr> DopeGhoti: what "show directory" I don't see that
#4448 [17:27] * Kealper has returned with dinner
#4448 [17:27] <SycoPrime> Access Points can forward the wireless signal, like a repeater. They're ~$20. This time of the year, just wear red and find a bell, and stand in front of a mall ringing it.
#4449 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> mib_914igr: once you have clicked 'mods and texture packs' on the main menu, there should be a button IIRC in the lower left
#4450 [17:27] <SycoPrime> You can make $20 in an afternoon.
#4451 [17:27] <Coll> yeah well I cant
#4452 [17:28] <Beachill> damn, still user not premium after 20 hours D;
#4453 [17:28] <Kealper> :/
#4454 [17:28] <mib_914igr> what IIRC mean?
#4455 [17:28] <Kealper> if i remember correctly
#4456 [17:28] <Utoxin> If I Recall Correctly
#4457 [17:28] <Kealper> same diff
#4458 [17:29] <Utoxin> Yep.
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#4460 [17:29] <Kealper> crap, everyone be quite o.o
#4461 [17:29] * Kealper hides
#4461 [17:30] <Visiiri> NO! I WILL TALK IF I WANT BRO
#4462 [17:30] <Visiiri> >:D
#4463 [17:30] * DopeGhoti is always quite o.o
#4463 [17:30] <Visiiri> Anyways, what does AuBot do?
#4464 [17:30] <Utoxin> Something to do with Gold, I'd bet.
#4465 [17:30] <Kealper> a few things
#4466 [17:30] <Visiiri> Like?
#4467 [17:30] <mib_914igr> DopeGhoti: I See the open txture pack folder is all on my game
#4468 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> AuBot looks shiny with its gold-colored playing.
#4469 [17:30] <santa> can someone walk me through on how to download the texture packs please
#4470 [17:30] <Kealper> logs chat (i still have not finished that webpage to view them) uhh....
#4471 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> mib_914igr: folder == directory. Click that.
#4472 [17:31] <Kealper> has a few commands for debugging, has an motd
#4473 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> mib_914igr: put your texture .zip into that directory
#4474 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> (don't expand it; just drop in the .zip)
#4475 [17:32] <Coll> ok
#4476 [17:32] <Coll> well computer is now connected via crossover
#4477 [17:32] <mib_914igr> DopeGhoti: I did that it brings my zip folder of the texture pack
#4478 [17:32] <Coll> anyone want to help me further?
#4479 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> mib_914igr: want to try that in English?
#4480 [17:33] <Kealper> Visiiri: http://kealper.com/IRCLogs i need to redo it so the thing does not re-parse the logs each time it's requested
#4481 [17:33] <SycoPrime> Figured out the problem. Anyone know how to kill AVG?
#4482 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> SycoPrime: with fire.
#4483 [17:33] <Coll> anyone >.>;
#4484 [17:34] <Kealper> Coll: what other help did you need? lol
#4485 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> Coll: your connection is <PC>---XO----<PC>-------<Router> ?
#4486 [17:34] <Coll> they are connected now I need the internet to share
#4487 [17:34] <Coll> yes
#4488 [17:34] <Coll> that is right Dope
#4489 [17:34] <mib_914igr> DopeGhoti: When I click the "open texture pack folder" texture pack comes up with all the texture for the moon, sun ,armor everything
#4490 [17:34] <SycoPrime> DopeGhoti: C:\Users\Syco>taskkill /F /IM avg.exe with fire
#4491 [17:34] <SycoPrime> ERROR: Invalid argument/option - 'with'.
#4492 [17:34] <Kealper> Coll: what os?
#4493 [17:34] <Coll> one with internet is win 7
#4494 [17:35] <Coll> other one is xp
#4495 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> Coll: step one: install Linux on the first PC :p
#4496 [17:35] <Coll> there is one
#4497 [17:35] <Kealper> i have no idea how to set up ICS on 7, but with xp just do it through the Network Setup Wizard
#4498 [17:35] <Coll> but I am not about to fuck with that
#4499 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> mib_914igr: All you should see in the directory that opens, if anything, is .zip files
#4500 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> ICS won't help you forward ports anyhow :p
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#4502 [17:36] <Coll> that is why I have tungle
#4503 [17:36] <mib_914igr> DopeGhoti: No all I see is opened texture files
#4504 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> say delete them; put in the .zip file the texture came as.
#4505 [17:37] <mbentley> yeah, i wouldn't use a server behind ics just due to port forwaring
#4506 [17:37] <Coll> I just said tungle solves that
#4507 [17:37] <mib_914igr> DopeGhoti: I'll try that thanks
#4508 [17:37] <Coll> I just need the other computer to get internet
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#4510 [17:40] <dqwizkid1995> So, my minecraft, whether in browser or not looks super wierd. The Grass is purple and trees are pink. And when things are a little dark they become red-ish and when they get dark enough, they turn transperent. This makes thing very difficult.
#4511 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> dqwizkid1995: ease up on the LSD intake.
#4512 [17:41] <Kealper> woh...
#4513 [17:41] <Kealper> yea...uhh...lol
#4514 [17:41] <mbentley> sounds pretty trippy
#4515 [17:41] <dqwizkid1995> Maybe.
#4516 [17:41] <mib_914igr> DopeGhoti: does it matter if its in winrar? cause minecraft just crashed for me
#4517 [17:41] <mbentley> do you have a screen shot of this?
#4518 [17:41] <dqwizkid1995> But really. What the hell is the problem.
#4519 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> mib_914igr: skins presently must be a zip file.
#4520 [17:41] <dqwizkid1995> Umm no. Let me get one. I will be right back.
#4521 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> which is why I kept saying "zip file".
#4522 [17:42] <Kealper> dqwizkid1995: it sounds like you've messed with the Hue in your graphics card settings
#4523 [17:42] <mbentley> ok thanks
#4524 [17:42] <Visiiri> dqwizkid1995, what web browser?
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#4526 [17:42] <dqwizkid1995> And no I haven't. It's done it in both computers in my house.
#4527 [17:42] <mib_914igr> DopeGhoti: so no winrar zip?
#4528 [17:42] <mbentley> you can use winrar
#4529 [17:42] <Kealper> dqwizkid1995: monitor fail?
#4530 [17:42] <mbentley> just make it a zip ;)
#4531 [17:42] <dqwizkid1995> It also happens outside of the browser. Firefox and safari.
#4532 [17:42] <mbentley> sounds strange if it happens to multiple computers...
#4533 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> a .rar file is not a .zip file. It must be a .zip file. You can make it with Notepad if you want to, as long as it's a properly encoded .zip file.
#4534 [17:43] <dqwizkid1995> My monitor is fine.
#4535 [17:43] <Kealper> i think a screenshot is in order lol
#4536 [17:43] <mib_914igr> wow this is confuseing
#4537 [17:43] <mbentley> at first i was thinking artifacts but on multiple computers...
#4538 [17:43] <Coll> for fucks sake
#4539 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> Share with us, either a screenhot or your chemistry set :)
#4540 [17:44] <Kealper> lol dope
#4541 [17:44] <Coll> it connected to wireless then cut out
#4542 [17:44] <Coll> this is stupid
#4543 [17:44] <Kealper> :/
#4544 [17:44] <mbentley> who doesn't distribute their texture pack already zipped, srsly
#4545 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> Coll: seriously, buy yourself an ethernet cable.
#4546 [17:44] <Coll> I CANT AFFORED IT
#4547 [17:44] <mbentley> or change wireless channels
#4548 [17:44] <Coll> jesus
#4549 [17:44] <Coll> what channel do you suggest?
#4550 [17:44] <mbentley> Coll: look in your router. should be a channel setting
#4551 [17:45] <mbentley> typically it is 6 by default
#4552 [17:45] <Kealper> uhh....go with like 9
#4553 [17:45] <Coll> I know how to set the channel
#4554 [17:45] <Coll> ok ill try 9
#4555 [17:45] <Coll> I just dont get it
#4556 [17:45] <mbentley> just trying something different
#4557 [17:45] <Kealper> 1, 6, and 11 are defaults so they are the most noisy
#4558 [17:45] <mbentley> tell people not to use a microwave, etc
#4559 [17:45] <Coll> this computer should be able to connect to it fine
#4560 [17:45] <Utoxin> Is it Vista or 7?
#4561 [17:45] <Coll> it is xp
#4562 [17:45] <Utoxin> Hmm. so shouldn't have the wireless bug.
#4563 [17:45] <Coll> and I know this computer should be perfectly capable connecting
#4564 [17:45] <Coll> but it isnt
#4565 [17:46] <Coll> I have tried 3 different NICs
#4566 [17:46] <Coll> it makes no sense
#4567 [17:46] <mib_914igr> dopeGhoti: how do I get it out of a winrar file to just a .zip
#4568 [17:46] <dqwizkid1995> how do I put up a picture?
#4569 [17:46] <lemon-rev> well make sure your computer has the computer in say jpg then like say in google upload pix or somethng
#4570 [17:46] <lemon-rev> lol
#4571 [17:47] <mbentley> if a file is a .rar, you will need to unrar it, and then create a zip file from the files after you have extracted them
#4572 [17:47] <mib_914igr> how do I unrar it?
#4573 [17:47] <Coll> well ok it is on 9
#4574 [17:47] <mbentley> no offense, but maybe you shouldn't use texture packs
#4575 [17:47] <Coll> we will see how this goes
#4576 [17:47] <dqwizkid1995> No. I already got the screen shots. How do I upload them to here?
#4577 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> dqwizkid1995: twitpic.com?
#4578 [17:47] <mbentley> unless they are already zipped
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#4580 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> dqwizkid1995: imagebin? Picasa?
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#4582 [17:48] <mib_914igr> it says winrar zip file
#4583 [17:48] <mbentley> that is a file type association
#4584 [17:48] <mbentley> it is a zip file
#4585 [17:48] <mbentley> just put it in the texture folder
#4586 [17:49] <mbentley> winrar just owns the .zip file association
#4587 [17:49] <mib_914igr> I put it in minecraft it crashes it
#4588 [17:49] <mbentley> where did you download it from???
#4589 [17:49] <mib_914igr> minecraft forums
#4590 [17:49] <mbentley> a link would be most helpful...
#4591 [17:49] <mib_914igr> ok 1 second
#4592 [17:49] <mbentley> k
#4593 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> "Where did you download it from?" "The internet." "*headdesk*"
#4594 [17:50] <Coll> wow
#4595 [17:50] <Coll> that
#4596 [17:50] <Coll> was wow
#4597 [17:51] <Kealper> O.o
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#4599 [17:52] <mib_914igr> yes heres the link
#4600 [17:52] <mib_914igr> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=73861
#4601 [17:52] <Kealper> misa's pack does not work
#4602 [17:52] <mbentley> read the first paragraph
#4603 [17:52] <Kealper> and it's also more of a mod than a texture pack..so...
#4604 [17:52] <dqwizkid1995> http://imagebin.org/129296
#4605 [17:53] <mib_914igr> I did
#4606 [17:53] <mbentley> hmm.. image isn't showing for me
#4607 [17:53] <Kealper> corrupt image dqwizkid1995
#4608 [17:53] <mbentley> mib_914igr: spoiler: it won't work
#4609 [17:53] <Kealper> reupload it to http://imgur.com
#4610 [17:53] <mib_914igr> ok thanks I know now
#4611 [17:54] <mib_914igr> Anyone you guys know that looks nice and works?
#4612 [17:54] <santa> I installed misas texture pack i downloaded but not working
#4613 [17:54] <Coll> wow the pain reading mibs chat
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#4615 [17:54] <Coll> just hurts
#4616 [17:54] <mbentley> i am a big fan of the default
#4617 [17:54] <dqwizkid1995> okay. I will put it up somewhere els.
#4618 [17:54] <Kealper> there is Painterly pack and Quandary pack
#4619 [17:55] <Kealper> Quandary is just a revamp of the original textures, and Painterly is a total overhaul
#4620 [17:55] <Kealper> Painterly is easier to beginners though
#4621 [17:55] <Kealper> since Quandary has separate months and such
#4622 [17:56] <SDiablo{GT}> this is realy unnormal 6 hours later, no premium, do something...
#4623 [17:56] <mbentley> !premium
#4624 [17:56] <Kealper> !premium
#4625 [17:56] <Kealper> that
#4626 [17:56] <mbentley> <<< WINRAR
#4627 [17:57] <Kealper> lol
#4628 [17:58] <mib_914igr> default is good but just wanna try a texture
#4629 [17:58] <mbentley> i would look for one that doesn't require mods
#4630 [17:59] <mib_914igr> rpg one?
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#4633 [17:59] <Kealper> not sure if Doku's RPG pack works with the texture pack thing
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#4636 [18:00] <santa> is Misa_'s texture pack good its a hd texture pack
#4637 [18:00] <mib_914igr> no it doesn't work
#4638 [18:01] <santa> I downloaded it from main minecraft site
#4639 [18:01] <mbentley> afaik, all hd texture packs require mods
#4640 [18:01] <mib_914igr> me too
#4641 [18:01] <santa> what is mods
#4642 [18:01] <Kealper> misa's pack is a third-party mod, and as such, it is not officially supported
#4643 [18:02] <Kealper> and a mod is anything that modifies the original game
#4644 [18:02] <santa> ok thanks
#4645 [18:02] <Kealper> some texture packs are supported, since they use the correct format. but others are not
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#4647 [18:05] <dqwizkid1995> http://imagebin.org/129299
#4648 [18:06] <Kealper> woh
#4649 [18:06] <mbentley> haha wtf
#4650 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> PowerPC?
#4651 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> PPC mac?
#4652 [18:06] <Kealper> dqwizkid1995: open a terminal window and type java -version
#4653 [18:07] * GreyVulpine shakes
#4653 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> If it's a powerPC mac, that's the problem
#4654 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Nothing we can do for PPC macs at the moment.
#4655 [18:07] <Kealper> do PPCs always screw up stuff that bad? lol
#4656 [18:07] * GreyVulpine nods
#4656 [18:08] * Kealper stores that info for later
#4656 [18:08] <dqwizkid1995> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_19-b02-306)
#4657 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Just a simple google of "Minecraft PowerPC Mac" will show you
#4658 [18:08] <Kealper> yes he is on ppc
#4659 [18:08] <Kealper> they don't have any higher than 1.5.0
#4660 [18:08] <mib_914igr> anyone know of a texture that is good without mods
#4661 [18:08] <Kealper> dqwizkid1995: there is nothing we can do; your computer is too old
#4662 [18:09] <dqwizkid1995> No.I'm running a G5
#4663 [18:10] <dqwizkid1995> Is that too old?
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#4665 [18:11] <Kealper> then you are running a very old version of osx, one that does not support java 1.6
#4666 [18:11] <dqwizkid1995> hold on
#4667 [18:11] <mib_914igr> anyone have a link to a texture pack that works and doesn't require mods?
#4668 [18:12] <Kealper> http://painterlypack.net/
#4669 [18:12] <Kealper> http://www.retributiongames.com/quandary/
#4670 [18:12] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper with: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/mac_os_x_block_transparency_problem
#4670 [18:12] <mib_914igr> THANK YOU!
#4671 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> As well as: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/_mac_graphic_problems_on_powerpc
#4672 [18:13] <Kealper> i really need to learn more about macs
#4673 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#4674 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Only reason I know about this is that this isn't the first time it's been reported.
#4675 [18:14] <Kealper> that's weird....it's all related to the greyscale textures used by biome code
#4676 [18:14] <Kealper> and the greyscale distance fog code which was changed to give the nether a red tint....
#4677 [18:16] <dqwizkid1995> Thanks, guys. I'll just have to put up with it, I guess.
#4678 [18:16] <Kealper> second reply on that second link...that guy is wrong! java is big endian!
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#4680 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Sorry dqwizkid1995.
#4681 [18:17] <dqwizkid1995> It's cool. You guys have a nice... day?
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#4687 [18:21] <Kealper> aha! that's why it does it
#4688 [18:22] <Kealper> i was right in that it was a problem with biomes...PPC osx uses BGR instead of RGB, minecraft uses RGB to determine the color it should change everything for biome related things
#4689 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> BGR?
#4690 [18:22] * GreyVulpine blinks
#4690 [18:22] <Kealper> Blue Green Red
#4691 [18:22] <Kealper> instead of Red Green Blue
#4692 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I just never heard of anybody using that array..
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#4695 [18:23] <Kealper> i only know about it because there are some color-related functions in AutoIt that returned BGR hex instead of RGB hex a while back (which was changed)
#4696 [18:24] <Coll> so uh
#4697 [18:24] <Coll> I am having one small problem
#4698 [18:24] <Kealper> hmm?
#4699 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Ah, interesting
#4700 [18:24] <Coll> my friend is on my server
#4701 [18:24] <Coll> no lag for her
#4702 [18:24] <Coll> me however
#4703 [18:24] <Coll> I am lagging
#4704 [18:24] <Kealper> i didn't know ppc used BGR though...meh..TIL!
#4705 [18:24] <Kealper> Coll: hosting off the same computer?
#4706 [18:24] <Coll> no
#4707 [18:24] <Kealper> O.o
#4708 [18:24] <Coll> 2 different ones
#4709 [18:25] <Coll> changing the channel seemed to have works
#4710 [18:25] <Coll> my NiC is a atheros
#4711 [18:25] <Kealper> hmm....i wonder if it's related to how you are hosting it...
#4712 [18:25] <Coll> and I have changed
#4713 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#4714 [18:25] <Kealper> nvm
#4715 [18:25] <Coll> mmm
#4716 [18:25] <Kealper> Atheros....
#4717 [18:25] * GreyVulpine shudders
#4717 [18:25] <Coll> seems to be fine
#4718 [18:25] <Coll> I know
#4719 [18:25] <Coll> but maybe if I change the settings back?
#4720 [18:25] <Coll> or raise them even more?
#4721 [18:25] <Kealper> java sockets HATE Atheros chipsets
#4722 [18:26] <Coll> guess ill try and connect via crossover
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#4724 [18:33] <santa> thank you for all your help
#4725 [18:34] <santa> does any one know a good rpg texture pack web site
#4726 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=12352 ?
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#4728 [18:34] <santa> thanks does it have mods
#4729 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Look for yourself
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#4731 [18:35] <santa> k
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#4733 [18:36] <lemon-rev> playing 3d anaglyph i think more people should try it, gives better prespective on how far the monsters are away lol
#4734 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I've yet to find a good source of 3d glasses.
#4735 [18:36] <lemon-rev> lol dvd's
#4736 [18:36] <lemon-rev> :)
#4737 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Would rather not ebay one.
#4738 [18:36] <lemon-rev> true
#4739 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Yeah. heh, like I ever buy a dvd
#4740 [18:37] * GreyVulpine coughs
#4740 [18:37] <lemon-rev> hahahhahah
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#4743 [18:41] <lemon-rev> should call creapers party poopers since you mind your own bisness and they just like hello BOOOM
#4744 [18:41] <Kealper> lol
#4745 [18:46] <Kealper> LOL....i just noticed Notch's new background image for his Twitter
#4746 [18:47] <Yossi> EXCUSE me sir, but I am trying to mine here, your exploding is simply put: rude.
#4747 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Ssssssssorry.
#4748 [18:47] <lemon-rev> lol
#4749 [18:47] <lemon-rev> hahahahhahaha
#4750 [18:47] <lemon-rev> yup
#4751 [18:48] <lemon-rev> thats just it, but they cant help but sssss BOOOOOM
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#4753 [18:48] * Kealper pours the last glass of Strawberry Crush
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#4754 [18:50] <lemon-rev> starting a plantation of cati is very slow going lol
#4755 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: really?
#4756 [18:50] <lemon-rev> well if you only like cut down like 2 to bring back to your home
#4757 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> cacti grow like gangbusters on my server. You practically can't turn around before they've grown.
#4758 [18:50] <lemon-rev> then like plant more and more everytime they grow
#4759 [18:50] <lemon-rev> lol,
#4760 [18:50] <lemon-rev> well that will happen once i have too many to handle lol
#4761 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> one becomes three becomes nine becomes twenty-seven
#4762 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> that's slow?
#4763 [18:51] <kontroll> A friend of mine went away for a couple of minutes. This is what I had done when he came back. :P
#4764 [18:51] <kontroll> http://dlxmedia.net/field-work.jpg
#4765 [18:51] <kontroll> :D
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#4767 [18:51] <lemon-rev> no but starting off with like 5 and doing that
#4768 [18:51] <Yossi> If I leave my furnace burning will it just run til its out of coal or ore?
#4769 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> Yossi: or until it runs out of things to smelt
#4770 [18:51] <lemon-rev> well it depends if you have more in your furnis than your coal
#4771 [18:51] <Kealper> hmm..what to do, what to do...i think i'll build a castle with impenetrible walls
#4772 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> if it runs out of either, it will sto
#4773 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: building with adminium? Wimp :)
#4774 [18:52] <Kealper> no
#4775 [18:52] <lemon-rev> thats not bad kontroll :)
#4776 [18:52] <Kealper> lava inbetween the walls :P
#4777 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> that's quite penetrable
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#4779 [18:53] <Kealper> brb
#4780 [18:53] <prodigy|gFx[CEO]> who do i talk to for help?
#4781 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> #minecrafthelp.
#4782 [18:53] <prodigy|gFx[CEO]> thank you
#4783 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> quite welcome.
#4784 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> next question?
#4785 [18:53] <Yossi> #minecraftnospoilers
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#4787 [18:53] <prodigy|gFx[CEO]> ...
#4788 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> Seriously, how can we help?
#4789 [18:54] <prodigy|gFx[CEO]> i baught the game but it still tells me i have to purcahse it
#4790 [18:54] <Kealper> !premium
#4791 [18:54] <Kealper> and back
#4792 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> hey, Kealper, someone was using your keyboard just before you came back
#4793 [18:55] <Kealper> nowai, how dare they!?
#4794 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> whoever it was helped out prodigy|gFx[CEO] though so I imagine it's cool.
#4795 [18:55] <Kealper> ahh, ok then
#4796 [18:55] <prodigy|gFx[CEO]> ...
#4797 [18:56] <prodigy|gFx[CEO]> so i have towait now.... thats dumb
#4798 [18:56] <Kealper> that's minecraft for ya lol
#4799 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> prodigy|gFx[CEO]: It's PayPal's fault.
#4800 [18:57] <Humil> isn't this anon's fault?
#4801 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> they're taking their time letting Mojang know when payments have been processed
#4802 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> Humil: ..wha?
#4803 [18:57] <Yossi> fffuuuuuuu
#4804 [18:57] <Kealper> Operation Payback
#4805 [18:57] <Humil> anonymous...
#4806 [18:57] <Humil> anon = anonymous
#4807 [18:58] <prodigy|gFx[CEO]> so how will i know when i can play
#4808 [18:58] <Kealper> keep trying every few hours
#4809 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> prodigy|gFx[CEO]: you should get a confirmation from Mojang. Also, when you log into the site, the 'buy now!' splash should disappear
#4810 [18:58] <prodigy|gFx[CEO]> logout and back in?
#4811 [18:58] <prodigy|gFx[CEO]> mk. thanks
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#4813 [18:59] <Kealper> hmm...i have found a suitable location right next to an ocean biome on top of a small hill for the placement of said fort
#4814 [18:59] <Kealper> let the terraforming commence!
#4815 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> if it's suitable, why the terraforming?
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#4817 [19:01] <Kealper> trees, and leveling the ground, i need a pruned courtyard lol
#4818 [19:01] <lemon-rev> whole point in terraforming find something you wanta destroy and yea go ahead :P
#4819 [19:03] <mbentley> so do you guys make maps of your servers? if so, what is your preferred mapping software?
#4820 [19:03] <Kealper> i use Cartograph
#4821 [19:03] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/mc O.o
#4822 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> I prefer mcmap
#4823 [19:03] <mbentley> i use c10t & mcmap at the moment
#4824 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> works faster and prettier
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#4826 [19:04] <mbentley> love the mcmap colors
#4827 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> c10t's pretty swanky too
#4828 [19:04] <mbentley> http://minecraft.mbentley.net/maps/
#4829 [19:04] <Kealper> hmm....wow
#4830 [19:04] <Kealper> c10t looks pretty nice
#4831 [19:05] <Kealper> lol...sand compass rose
#4832 [19:05] <mbentley> c10t with the gmaps plugin is nifty imo >> http://minecraft.mbentley.net/maps/gmaps/
#4833 [19:05] <mbentley> lol yeah
#4834 [19:05] <mbentley> idiots on my map couldn't figure out which direction was 'north'
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#4836 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> I use mcmap with Minecraft Overviewer; works pretty well
#4837 [19:05] <mbentley> so they made a compass rose :D
#4838 [19:06] * Adam is now known as Merkava
#4839 [19:06] <mbentley> i used to use overviewer but it requires some newer libraries that debian lenny doesn't have
#4840 [19:06] <Merkava> I've got a question... Is it normal to have bought the game but your profile not reflecting that and allowing you to play?
#4841 [19:07] <mbentley> !premium
#4842 [19:07] <Merkava> not reflect that*
#4843 [19:07] <Merkava> ok great, answers that.
#4844 [19:07] <Merkava> later
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#4846 [19:07] <mbentley> loev that
#4847 [19:07] <mbentley> *love
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#4849 [19:07] <mbentley> easy as easy pie
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#4854 [19:16] <Oggrish> where is the changelog?
#4855 [19:16] * [Husky]Shnaw|Not-Here is now known as [Husky]Shnaw
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#4859 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> Oggrish: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Minecraft+Changelog
#4860 [19:21] <renroses> I'm having some trouble with my game... I've been hitting the same tree for like ten minutes and no wood. :/
#4861 [19:21] <Kealper> renroses: smp?
#4862 [19:22] <renroses> what?
#4863 [19:22] <Kealper> multiplayer?
#4864 [19:22] <renroses> Nope.
#4865 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> renroses: try holding down the mouse button.
#4866 [19:22] <Kealper> are you holding left mouse or clicking it?
#4867 [19:22] <renroses> clicking it. am I supposed to hold it?
#4868 [19:22] <Kealper> indeed
#4869 [19:22] <renroses> ... okay. thanks, sorry, I'm an idiot, et cetera.
#4870 [19:22] <renroses> <3
#4871 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> renroses: no worries :)
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#4874 [19:24] <Wahrheit> So why is my server saying it's overloaded if I'm running it with 1 player at 1500MB RAM?
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#4877 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> Wahrheit: "Can't keep up!"?
#4878 [19:24] <Wahrheit> Yeah
#4879 [19:24] <mizaki> what ap
#4880 [19:24] <Wahrheit> VPS
#4881 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> it's overreacting; everyone gets that message. Safe to ignore it.
#4882 [19:24] <Kealper> ignore it
#4883 [19:24] <Wahrheit> It's laggy like hell though :S
#4884 [19:25] <mizaki> greyvulpine what up
#4885 [19:25] <Wahrheit> Didn't do this running on my localhost
#4886 [19:25] <mbentley> could be it can't write the world files fast enough
#4887 [19:25] <Wahrheit> so wat do?
#4888 [19:25] <mbentley> if the vps has poor disk performance, it can definitely cause lag
#4889 [19:25] <Wahrheit> just ask host then?
#4890 [19:25] <mbentley> pretty much that is all you can do
#4891 [19:25] <Wahrheit> alright
#4892 [19:25] <Wahrheit> thanks :)
#4893 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> Given all the disk I/O that Minecraft needs, don't expect freat performance form a VPS, in all honesty.
#4894 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> s/freat/great/
#4895 [19:26] <Wahrheit> whatever I'm only paying 7/mo for it
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#4897 [19:26] <Wahrheit> 50% off continuous FTW
#4898 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> $7?
#4899 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> those are still out there?
#4900 [19:26] <Kealper> are you sure it even has enough ram? lol
#4901 [19:26] <Wahrheit> was 14 now 7
#4902 [19:26] <Wahrheit> 2GB ram, 4 burst
#4903 [19:26] <Kealper> o.o
#4904 [19:26] <mbentley> Wahrheit: it could be possible to get better performance out of it if you put the world files in ram
#4905 [19:26] <Kealper> that's a super decent price then
#4906 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> Which host, if you don't mind me adking?
#4907 [19:27] <Wahrheit> here
#4908 [19:27] <Wahrheit> lemme find the link
#4909 [19:27] * DopeGhoti sees a referral link in our future..
#4909 [19:27] <Tunc> I have a question
#4910 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> Tunc: don't ask to ask; just ask ;)
#4911 [19:27] <Wahrheit> http://goo.gl/pWsHC
#4912 [19:27] <Tunc> there is this javascript error when trying to connect to a server
#4913 [19:27] <Wahrheit> Well obviously :p
#4914 [19:27] <Tunc> *the
#4915 [19:27] <Wahrheit> Can you blame me though?
#4916 [19:27] <mbentley> i have my world files on a ramdisk and i have pretty much completely removed lag
#4917 [19:27] <Wahrheit> How do you do that then mbently?
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#4919 [19:28] <Wahrheit> oh and let me get you the xmas coupon
#4920 [19:28] <Tunc> it's java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
#4921 [19:28] <Tunc> so what does that mean
#4922 [19:28] <Wahrheit> 50OFFXMAS2010
#4923 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> Wahrheit: not remotely :)
#4924 [19:28] <Tunc> Answer my question
#4925 [19:28] <Wahrheit> use the paypal subscription when you sign up and the discount never expires
#4926 [19:28] <Tunc> what does that error mean
#4927 [19:28] <mbentley> Wahrheit: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=106367
#4928 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: are you using /dev/shm ? Or another way?
#4929 [19:28] <Tunc> What does Internal Exception:java.net.SocketException: Connection reset mean?
#4930 [19:29] <mbentley> yes, i am using /dev/shm
#4931 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> cook
#4932 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> er, cool
#4933 [19:29] <mbentley> i don't use the instructions in that thread though
#4934 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> I was thinking of trying that
#4935 [19:29] <Tunc> What does Internal Exception:java.net.SocketException: Connection reset mean?
#4936 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> Tunc: that means that the netwrok connection failed for an unknown reason
#4937 [19:29] <mbentley> i have a custom startup script that puts the files in ram on startup from a .tar and on shutdown, it retars the files
#4938 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: I was thinking of writing a similar script :)
#4939 [19:29] * DopeGhoti has a brown belt in bash-fu
#4939 [19:29] <mbentley> lol
#4940 [19:30] <mbentley> i have it so it saves my world files to disk every other hour as well so if i do get a server crash, i won't lose that much
#4941 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> cron and a beautiful thing.
#4942 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> s/and/is/
#4943 [19:31] <mbentley> for serious
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#4945 [19:32] * DopeGhoti is also using the multiplexer and has an IRC bot interconnected with the MC server. Good stuff.
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#4946 [19:33] <Wahrheit> mbentley can you help me with this setup?
#4947 [19:33] <Wahrheit> I'm new to VPS/shell etc
#4948 [19:33] <Spoot> so, multiplayer beta, do we have a fix for whats wrong with it?
#4949 [19:33] <mbentley> well it sorta depends on how your vps is set up
#4950 [19:34] <mbentley> ie - what software they use
#4951 [19:34] <Wahrheit> I put it on CentOS 5
#4952 [19:34] <mbentley> Wahrheit: see if the directory /dev/shm exists
#4953 [19:35] <Wahrheit> one sec
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#4955 [19:36] <Spoot> ... is anyone else having issues with multiplayer?
#4956 [19:36] <Wahrheit> dev: no such file or directory
#4957 [19:36] <mbentley> startup >> http://pastebin.com/FPzYG131 shutdown >> http://pastebin.com/VDMSmBF7
#4958 [19:36] <mbentley> do a 'ls -l /dev/shm'
#4959 [19:36] <Tunc> Spoot: ME
#4960 [19:36] <K4z00^> 2Hey :) so i bought minecraft for like an hour ago but cant play it ): what is going on :D?
#4961 [19:36] <mbentley> !premium
#4962 [19:36] <Wahrheit> that did nothing
#4963 [19:37] <Wahrheit> [root@summaxr ~]# ls -l /dev/shm
#4964 [19:37] <Wahrheit> ls: /dev/shm: No such file or directory
#4965 [19:37] <mbentley> as i expected, your vps doesn't have /dev/shm by default
#4966 [19:37] <K4z00^> 13Ohh well when will it be up :)?
#4967 [19:37] <mbentley> no clue
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#4969 [19:37] <Wahrheit> turn off txt color please
#4970 [19:37] <mbentley> it is just slow
#4971 [19:37] <Wahrheit> So how do I set it up?
#4972 [19:37] <Spoot> Tunc: massive CPU and RAM Spikes on the server?
#4973 [19:38] <mbentley> did you check out http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=106367 ?
#4974 [19:38] <Wahrheit> Spoot: That seems to be happening to me
#4975 [19:38] <Wahrheit> mbentley: yeah but I don't understand how to run the script
#4976 [19:38] <Tunc> Spoot: I think yesw
#4977 [19:39] <mbentley> putting things on a ramdisk isn't exactly something i am certain i am comfortable teaching to someone who has extremely limited experience at the cli
#4978 [19:39] <Wahrheit> =/
#4979 [19:39] <Wahrheit> I'm a fast learner
#4980 [19:39] <Wahrheit> If I mess it up I can just toss everything and start again, this is a fresh install
#4981 [19:39] <Tunc> Come on log in...
#4982 [19:39] <Wahrheit> nothing to lose
#4983 [19:40] <Tunc> awh again
#4984 [19:40] <Spoot> ok, so were loading the server onto ramdisks to resolve the issues?
#4985 [19:40] <mbentley> Spoot: this is an issue specific to Wahrheit
#4986 [19:40] <mbentley> and his vps
#4987 [19:41] <Spoot> gotcha
#4988 [19:41] <Wahrheit> Unless this is going to crash the entire host server I see no issue
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#4993 [19:42] <Wahrheit> I dislike mibbit very much
#4994 [19:42] <Clocker13> Hi there
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#4997 [19:44] <Spoot> i love falling throught the levels
#4998 [19:44] <Clocker13> Bought this game from minecraft.net earlier today, still thinks I'm an unregistered user. Can't download or anything. Paid via paypal, which confirmed.
#4999 [19:44] <mbentley> !premium
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#5002 [19:45] <mib_914igr> anyone know of any RPG texture packs?
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#5004 [19:47] <Wahrheit> mbentley, any help?
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#5007 [19:49] <Clocker13> in profile, it says Replace this skin: You need to buy the game to be able to change your skin. but I've bought that game and still nothing. What AuBot said:Please note: minecraft.net is currently having issues recieving payment notifications today; Just sit tight for about a day or so, your payment will get recognized eventually
#5008 [19:49] <Clocker13> is that my problem?
#5009 [19:49] <Wahrheit> !premium
#5010 [19:49] <mbentley> yes
#5011 [19:49] <Clocker13> oh ok ty
#5012 [19:50] <Wahrheit> mbentley, will you help or no? if not it's okay but if yes I would like to get started if that's alright
#5013 [19:50] <mbentley> just a sec, whipping something together for you to try
#5014 [19:50] <Wahrheit> oh okay :D
#5015 [19:50] <Wahrheit> Thought you had left :p
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#5017 [19:51] <mbentley> try to execute this:
#5018 [19:51] <mbentley> mkdir /tmp/minecraft; mount -t tmpfs -o size=256m tmpfs /tmp/minecraft
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#5020 [19:51] <Wahrheit> done
#5021 [19:51] <Wahrheit> launch game?
#5022 [19:51] <mbentley> did it give you any errors?
#5023 [19:52] <Wahrheit> no
#5024 [19:52] <Wahrheit> not a one
#5025 [19:52] <mbentley> ok
#5026 [19:52] <mbentley> type 'mount' to see if there is a line that like starts with 'tmpfs'
#5027 [19:52] <mbentley> just to make sure
#5028 [19:53] <Wahrheit> yep
#5029 [19:53] <Wahrheit> also what is burst memory?
#5030 [19:53] <mbentley> it means that if you need more memory, the vps will flex up to 4 gb of ram
#5031 [19:53] <Wahrheit> oh kewl
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#5033 [19:53] <mbentley> but you are guaranteed 2 gb
#5034 [19:53] <Wahrheit> right
#5035 [19:54] <mbentley> do you have an existing world you have?
#5036 [19:55] <Wahrheit> ueaj
#5037 [19:55] <Wahrheit> *yeah
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#5039 [19:55] <mbentley> ok, cd to the directory that the minecraft_server.jar file is location
#5040 [19:55] <Wahrheit> it's in the root so already there
#5041 [19:55] <mbentley> ok, what is your world directory named? 'world'?
#5042 [19:56] <Wahrheit> world2
#5043 [19:56] <Wahrheit> :p
#5044 [19:56] <mbentley> ok, type 'cp -r world2 /tmp/minecraft/'
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#5046 [19:56] <mbentley> that should copy it to the ramdisk
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#5049 [19:56] <Wahrheit> done
#5050 [19:57] <mbentley> then type 'mv world2 world2.bak' which will rename the world2 directory
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#5052 [19:57] <Wahrheit> done
#5053 [19:57] <mbentley> then 'ln -s /tmp/minecraft/world2'
#5054 [19:57] <Wahrheit> done
#5055 [19:57] <mbentley> ok, now try to start your minecraft server up
#5056 [19:58] <Wahrheit> success but "can't keep up"
#5057 [19:58] <Wahrheit> lag appears to be gone
#5058 [19:58] <mbentley> hmm, could be that it just doesn't have enough horsepower (cpu) dedicated
#5059 [19:58] <Wahrheit> haven
#5060 [19:58] <mbentley> ah
#5061 [19:58] <Wahrheit> *haven't gotten since connect though
#5062 [19:58] <Wahrheit> so
#5063 [19:59] <Spoot> im getting cant keep up aswell
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#5065 [19:59] <Spoot> so are alot of people in the forums
#5066 [19:59] <mbentley> btw, this is a VERY crude setup
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#5068 [19:59] <Wahrheit> it appears to work
#5069 [19:59] <Wahrheit> so good on you man
#5070 [19:59] <mbentley> and if the server reboots, you WILL lose your world
#5071 [19:59] <Wahrheit> oh shit
#5072 [19:59] <Wahrheit> how do I keep it backed up
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#5074 [20:00] <mbentley> something like 'tar cf world2.tar /tmp/minecraft/world2' would tar it up
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#5076 [20:01] <Wahrheit> but just don't crash the server and it will be k?
#5077 [20:01] <slimer> Can someone here help me?
#5078 [20:01] <mbentley> slimer: yes just ask
#5079 [20:01] <mbentley> Wahrheit: yeah
#5080 [20:01] <mbentley> if your host reboots it though...
#5081 [20:01] <slimer> In minecraft the old version, i cant play it in the browser. Nothing pops up
#5082 [20:02] <Wahrheit> any way to auto backup?
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#5084 [20:02] <Wahrheit> Oh, and is there an API to make something to check if the server is online?
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#5087 [20:03] <slimer> no one can help?
#5088 [20:04] <Wahrheit> Check your java
#5089 [20:04] <Wahrheit> or something
#5090 [20:04] <slimer> I have
#5091 [20:04] <Wahrheit> it's an error with your browser not the game
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#5093 [20:04] <slimer> Ive reinstalled it. Ive used 4 different browsers
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#5095 [20:06] <Wahrheit> works fine for me
#5096 [20:06] <slimer> what should i do?
#5097 [20:06] <TheSexyPenguin> is there anyway u can get your username on minecraft changed?
#5098 [20:06] <mbentley> slimer: see this this applet works >> http://javatester.org/version.html
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#5105 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> TheSexyPenguin - No.
#5106 [20:10] <TheSexyPenguin> dang it.
#5107 [20:11] <BadNetMan> back
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#5115 [20:12] <Sami> Hello?
#5116 [20:12] <mbentley> hello?
#5117 [20:13] <Wahrheit> Sami from MMS? lol
#5118 [20:13] <aposyndesian> hello
#5119 [20:13] <Sami> Anyone happens to be a resgistered member of minecraft?
#5120 [20:13] <Sami> registered*
#5121 [20:13] <Wahrheit> most of us yes
#5122 [20:13] <Wahrheit> Are you having an issue with activation?
#5123 [20:13] <mbentley> !premium
#5124 [20:13] <Wahrheit> !premium
#5125 [20:13] <Wahrheit> damnit
#5126 [20:13] <Wahrheit> lol
#5127 [20:13] <mbentley> Sami: check that :)
#5128 [20:13] <Sami> Well,I have came across the game a couple of hours ago.
#5129 [20:13] <Sami> To be honest 14euro is a fair price tag.
#5130 [20:13] <Sami> However,the game does not offer any trial.
#5131 [20:14] <mbentley> ah
#5132 [20:14] <Wahrheit> oh
#5133 [20:14] <Wahrheit> yes it does
#5134 [20:14] <Sami> I would like to know your opinions,I am not the one to worry about graphics.
#5135 [20:14] <Wahrheit> play classic
#5136 [20:14] <Wahrheit> it's like the same thing
#5137 [20:14] <Wahrheit> kind of
#5138 [20:14] <Wahrheit> except not survival
#5139 [20:14] <Wahrheit> and unlimited blocks
#5140 [20:14] <Wahrheit> so yeah
#5141 [20:14] <Sami> But what do we exactly do in this game? Whats our aim?
#5142 [20:14] <aposyndesian> survive & thrive
#5143 [20:14] <Sami> Classic crashes Mozilla
#5144 [20:14] <mbentley> build stuff, etc
#5145 [20:14] <Wahrheit> there is no aim lol
#5146 [20:14] <aposyndesian> then don't use mozilla
#5147 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> Sami: it's first-person Lego with Zombies.
#5148 [20:14] <Sami> (and gives blue screen right after)
#5149 [20:14] <Wahrheit> And no it doesn't I run it fine
#5150 [20:15] <aposyndesian> it's a freaking sandbox game...
#5151 [20:15] <Sami> Am I alone in this game?
#5152 [20:15] <aposyndesian> no
#5153 [20:15] <aposyndesian> there're zombies
#5154 [20:15] <aposyndesian> :3
#5155 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> Sami: in single player, you are the only human
#5156 [20:15] <Sami> I mean,I am a fan of medieval ages,I want to show the castle I've built to community.
#5157 [20:15] <aposyndesian> hey
#5158 [20:15] <aposyndesian> zombies are humans too
#5159 [20:15] <aposyndesian> they have rights, ya know
#5160 [20:15] <Sami> I dont want to go around breaking blocks all day
#5161 [20:15] <Sami> :D
#5162 [20:16] <aposyndesian> then place some blocks...
#5163 [20:16] <aposyndesian> :)
#5164 [20:16] <Sami> Then ghoti,I assume my creation is reset after I leave server?
#5165 [20:16] <Wahrheit> And makes ome blocks
#5166 [20:16] <Wahrheit> and minecart roller coasters!
#5167 [20:16] <Wahrheit> Nope, it stays
#5168 [20:16] <Wahrheit> And there is single player too
#5169 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> Sami: no, the game is constantly saving more or less in real-time
#5170 [20:16] <Sami> apos,why do we kill zombies?
#5171 [20:17] <Sami> XP? Level? More blocks?
#5172 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> Sami: so that they do not kill you
#5173 [20:17] <Wahrheit> because they want your brains
#5174 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> alternatively, you can hide form them.
#5175 [20:17] <aposyndesian> mmhmm
#5176 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> The developer has mentioned adding more.. goal-y things to Minecraft
#5177 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> but right now it's all about the creativity of the player(s)
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#5180 [20:17] <Sami> There must be a reason to take the fight to the zombies..or I'd just hide.
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#5183 [20:18] <Wahrheit> they can drop gunpowder
#5184 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> Sami: hiding is a _perfectly_ viable option.
#5185 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> Wahrheit: no they cannot
#5186 [20:18] <Sami> so I can make cannon*?
#5187 [20:18] <aposyndesian> hiding is win
#5188 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> Sami: no cannons yet, but you can make TNT
#5189 [20:18] <aposyndesian> yes you can, sami
#5190 [20:18] <aposyndesian> it takes some effort
#5191 [20:18] <aposyndesian> and some running like hell after you've lit the fuse
#5192 [20:18] <Sami> and in multiplayer,there are a few players who are busy with creating their own things?
#5193 [20:19] <Sami> we go and see what each of us have built?
#5194 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> Sami: or working together, but yes.
#5195 [20:19] <aposyndesian> depends
#5196 [20:19] <mbentley> yeah, like on my map, people are making different buildings
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#5198 [20:19] <mbentley> people make their own homes to store their stuff, etc
#5199 [20:19] <Sami> so a server is my home?
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#5201 [20:19] <Sami> permament home*
#5202 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> well, you can play on as many servers as you like
#5203 [20:20] <mbentley> nah, you can connect to different servers
#5204 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> each is their own unique world
#5205 [20:20] <mbentley> i tend to just play on one server though
#5206 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> but you can't bring anything from server to server
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#5208 [20:20] <Sami> But each server saves what I've built right?
#5209 [20:20] <Sami> what I've stored..
#5210 [20:20] <mbentley> yeah
#5211 [20:20] <mbentley> i like these questions :D
#5212 [20:20] <Sami> Thats cool,however thats a lot to save?
#5213 [20:21] <SevFTW> Does anyone know how to make it so there are groups and zones or areas on a beta server? As well as being able to trade via signs? or is that taboo in this specific channel?
#5214 [20:21] <mbentley> my world is like 91 MB >> http://minecraft.mbentley.net/maps/mcmap_octeams2-day.png
#5215 [20:21] <Sami> I mean 10 players playing,one of them has created other side of map,other 3 miles south etc..
#5216 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> Sami: each game world is about eight earths in size once fully explored
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#5218 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> Sami: for example, here's the map on my server as of last night: http://www.evernote.com/pub/dopeghoti/Screenshots#v=t&n=b3888665-ba6a-49b1-b9cd-c228d2b22257&b=0
#5219 [20:22] <SevFTW> anyone?
#5220 [20:22] <Sami> I take it extra large,though what if I want to visit a friend?
#5221 [20:22] <Sami> vehicles?
#5222 [20:22] <mbentley> Sami: you can use minecarts
#5223 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> you can build minecarts and tracks for them
#5224 [20:22] <mbentley> SevFTW: not exactly sure what you mean by groups and zones...
#5225 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> that's what the long narrow bridge on that picture is actually :)
#5226 [20:22] <Sami> like trains..
#5227 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> exactly
#5228 [20:22] <mbentley> yup
#5229 [20:22] <mbentley> we use minecarts to travel
#5230 [20:23] <Sami> and how fares the population of the game?
#5231 [20:23] <SevFTW> I was on a server where they had a jail, and you could be teleported there without another user being there
#5232 [20:23] <mbentley> to go from end to end, it takes about 7 minutes
#5233 [20:23] <Sami> I dont expect a WoW like populated game of course.
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#5236 [20:23] <mbentley> hmm, definitely sounds like they were using mods
#5237 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Sami: each server has its own population. Some are lousy with players, others are more or less empty
#5238 [20:23] <Sami> lousy?
#5239 [20:24] <Sami> 20-30?
#5240 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> I've seem some with 50
#5241 [20:24] <SevFTW> ok... and I know that's taboo
#5242 [20:24] <mbentley> it's just hard to support all of the mods :)
#5243 [20:24] <Sami> 50 active players,building actively?
#5244 [20:24] <Sami> or just a total of 50
#5245 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> yep
#5246 [20:24] <mbentley> mine typically has like 1-5 people playing
#5247 [20:25] <Sami> thats good to hear.
#5248 [20:25] <mbentley> sometimes 0
#5249 [20:25] <mbentley> heh
#5250 [20:25] <Spoot> so can anyone help me try to get my beta multiplayer server to work correctly?
#5251 [20:25] <mbentley> since people work
#5252 [20:25] <Sami> and what about dying?
#5253 [20:25] <Sami> If I die?
#5254 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> you respawn
#5255 [20:25] <SevFTW> ahhh
#5256 [20:25] <mbentley> Spoot: you just getting horrible lag?
#5257 [20:25] <SevFTW> ok well I'll check otu the forrums
#5258 [20:25] <Sami> oh no biggie.
#5259 [20:26] <Sami> and the method of combat
#5260 [20:26] <Sami> is it the pickaxe?
#5261 [20:26] <Spoot> and falling through the level, client disconnects
#5262 [20:26] <mbentley> Sami: and you drop all of your items where you died
#5263 [20:26] <mbentley> what are the specs of your server?
#5264 [20:26] <Sami> oh and a bit of runescape ish I see.
#5265 [20:26] <SevFTW> mine?
#5266 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> Sami: you can make swords or bows/arrows as well
#5267 [20:26] <mbentley> Spoot: <specs>
#5268 [20:26] <Sami> shields?
#5269 [20:26] <mbentley> no sheilds (yet)
#5270 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> you can make armor though
#5271 [20:27] <SevFTW> ok i gtg my server's laggin cuz im in this IRC :P
#5272 [20:27] <SevFTW> cya
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#5274 [20:27] <Spoot> core 2 duo e5400 an 2gb
#5275 [20:27] <Sami> As in armor
#5276 [20:27] <Sami> Does everyone wear a static set of armor
#5277 [20:27] <Sami> or is it customised?
#5278 [20:27] <Sami> (or preset)
#5279 [20:27] <mbentley> lag from irc? riiiight :D
#5280 [20:28] <xales> mbentley: I think IRC uses about
#5281 [20:28] <mbentley> hmm, that's odd Spoot
#5282 [20:28] <xales> i dunno
#5283 [20:28] <xales> nothing
#5284 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> it's fairly static, you can came helms, breastplates, greaves, and leggings of four materials
#5285 [20:28] <xales> you can run a hub server on DSL, probably
#5286 [20:28] <mbentley> xales: yeah, it is like nothing
#5287 [20:28] <xales> actually
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#5289 [20:28] <Spoot> i know, was fine with alpha, and with other maps
#5290 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: who knows how much DCCing he was doing :)
#5291 [20:28] <xales> you can run a hub server on dsl
#5292 [20:28] <mbentley> yeah, definitely
#5293 [20:28] <xales> DopeGhoti: still, all it transfers is text. lol
#5294 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> erm
#5295 [20:29] <mbentley> dcc = transferring files
#5296 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> perhaps you're not familiar with DCC.
#5297 [20:29] <Sami> So I get it,combat isnt much valuable.The aim is to build something which is to be admired at I suppose.
#5298 [20:29] <Spoot> but with my realy large map im getting waves of high cpu usage and ram spikes that last for 1-2 mins
#5299 [20:29] <xales> DCC was originally for chat
#5300 [20:29] <xales> DCC CHAT is still used more than DCC RECV
#5301 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> I'm not talking about the DCCing he may have been doing in 1991.
#5302 [20:29] <xales> :(
#5303 [20:29] <xales> lol
#5304 [20:30] <mbentley> hmm, that is odd Spoot
#5305 [20:30] <mbentley> i would have figured those specs would be decent enough
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#5307 [20:30] <Spoot> is there any way to log the server?
#5308 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> Spoot: the server logs itself.
#5309 [20:30] <mbentley> you mean log the server output?
#5310 [20:30] * DopeGhoti points at 'server.log' which is, oddly, a log.
#5310 [20:30] <mbentley> becuase yes, as DopeGhoti said, it does
#5311 [20:33] <Spoot> the server loge in /logs is rather devoid of anything showing me the performance issues
#5312 [20:34] <mbentley> i take it your are running this on windows Spoot ?
#5313 [20:34] <Spoot> unfortunatly
#5314 [20:35] <Spoot> friends svr
#5315 [20:35] <mbentley> ah
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#5317 [20:35] <mbentley> i have only had linux minecraft server experience myself
#5318 [20:36] <mbentley> so i am not really sure about things to do to resolve lag issues on windows :*
#5319 [20:36] <Spoot> i see, and since the beta release and updates how has the linux server been?
#5320 [20:36] <Spoot> because windows has been a mess for the last 3 days
#5321 [20:36] <Sami> I'm buying it then.
#5322 [20:37] <mbentley> since the very latest update, it has been very fast but it get crashes on the client
#5323 [20:37] <Sami> Hopefully it is not boring :)
#5324 [20:37] <mbentley> Sami: it is about as exciting as you make it :D
#5325 [20:37] <mbentley> i make it very exciting :D
#5326 [20:37] <Sami> It wont take me a few hours to build and be done with it right?
#5327 [20:37] <mbentley> it is especially fun if you get on an awesome server
#5328 [20:37] <mbentley> oh no, it will take a while if you do it without cheating
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#5330 [20:38] <Sami> cheating?
#5331 [20:38] <Spoot> crashes on the clinet should have been resolved in 1.1_02 update, atleast they are on windows
#5332 [20:38] <mbentley> yeah, you can spawn items if you have op priviliges on a server
#5333 [20:38] <Sami> oh,wouldnt want that.
#5334 [20:38] <Sami> Seems like I cannot play today though?
#5335 [20:39] <xales> Sami: why wouldn't you be able to play today?
#5336 [20:39] <mbentley> everyone on my server is having issues with the java client crashing, at least with win7 x64
#5337 [20:39] <mbentley> xales: the whole delay in new account processing
#5338 [20:39] <Sami> The payment processing error that is mentioned
#5339 [20:39] <xales> mbentley: oh, duh. right
#5340 [20:39] <mbentley> :)
#5341 [20:40] <Spoot> hmmm, ok, is there another client other that the java? or is the linux client good?
#5342 [20:40] <xales> Spoot: the only client is the official one written in Java
#5343 [20:40] <mbentley> nope only java
#5344 [20:40] <mbentley> but yes, you can run it on linux
#5345 [20:40] <xales> the linux client is identical to the windows client
#5346 [20:40] <mbentley> i haven't tried it yet
#5347 [20:40] <mbentley> well, not with the latest version that is
#5348 [20:41] <aposyndesian> I'm scared... party happenin' at my house soon, and open houses=porperty being destroyed
#5349 [20:41] <aposyndesian> buh-bye
#5350 [20:41] <Spoot> so the issues would be identical?
#5351 [20:41] <xales> Spoot: no, windows has inherently way more issues than Linux
#5352 [20:41] <mbentley> *should* but that isn't always true
#5353 [20:41] <xales> 95% of issues on linux are user error, not OS incapability
#5354 [20:41] <xales> unless you mean bugs
#5355 [20:41] <xales> in the client or server itself
#5356 [20:42] <Spoot> what im seeing is that when the client start acting up the servers ram and cpu usage doubles
#5357 [20:42] <mbentley> i have seen better stability and more consistent performance on a linux client back around the halloween update
#5358 [20:42] <Sami> So I've bought it..I'll need a home.
#5359 [20:42] <xales> Spoot: the server may be incapable of handling the load for some reason, or it could be a windows issue
#5360 [20:42] <xales> Sami: best home is single player <3
#5361 [20:43] <Wahrheit> mbentley, when one of my users tries to connect to my server: SocketException: InvalidArguement
#5362 [20:43] <Sami> I like playing with others though
#5363 [20:43] <mbentley> Sami: here is a list of public servers >> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#5364 [20:43] <mbentley> Wahrheit: that's a new one to me...
#5365 [20:43] <xales> Wahrheit: make sure the client is up to date, can other users connect properly?
#5366 [20:43] <Spoot> im starting to lead tword the windows issue, guess ill try a linux box
#5367 [20:43] <xales> Wahrheit: tell them to reinstall the client
#5368 [20:43] <xales> !mcfaq
#5369 [20:43] <xales> what was that command?
#5370 [20:44] <xales> ffs
#5371 [20:44] <mbentley> whcih one?
#5372 [20:44] <Sami> How should I know when my payment has processed?
#5373 [20:44] <xales> oh there it goes
#5374 [20:44] <xales> http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#5375 [20:44] <mbentley> you should get an email
#5376 [20:44] <xales> Sami: youll get an email
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#5380 [20:44] <Wahrheit> !premium
#5381 [20:44] <xales> Wahrheit: direct them to http://bit.ly/mc_faq and have them reinstall minecraft
#5382 [20:44] <Wahrheit> eh?
#5383 [20:44] <Wahrheit> okay
#5384 [20:44] <xales> the instructions are there to reinstall
#5385 [20:44] <mbentley> Wahrheit: sounds like you should update the server
#5386 [20:44] <Sami> Confusing server list..cant you recommend a populated one to me?
#5387 [20:44] <xales> Sami: smp.shadow-craft.net
#5388 [20:45] <xales> you need to register on that site with your minecraft username before you can build though
#5389 [20:45] <Sami> noob-friendly?
#5390 [20:45] <xales> they are all somewhat noob-friendly
#5391 [20:45] <xales> its not particularly hostile; griefing isnt allowed
#5392 [20:45] <xales> however it is best to play single-player by yourself first
#5393 [20:46] <Sami> You happen to be there too?
#5394 [20:46] <xales> its the exact same as multiplayer...just without other people, and without lag
#5395 [20:46] <xales> Sami: I am there occasionally
#5396 [20:46] <xales> i spend most of my time on IRC being helpful
#5397 [20:46] <xales> :(
#5398 [20:46] <Sami> Hmm buying&selling..can I sell what I've craft?
#5399 [20:46] <xales> Sami: yes
#5400 [20:46] <xales> I believe that is how it works
#5401 [20:47] <Sami> Why would they be interested though?
#5402 [20:47] <Sami> I mean I was told armor was static
#5403 [20:47] <mbentley> Sami: it wouldn't be a bad idea to get oriented with a game a little bit in single player just to figure out the basics but you can always just jump right in :)
#5404 [20:47] <Sami> I cannot be creative in such things.
#5405 [20:47] <xales> Sami: you sell it to the server, not to a player
#5406 [20:47] <Sami> Ah..
#5407 [20:47] <xales> you also buy from the server
#5408 [20:47] <xales> Sami: regardless, it is best to play by yourself first. playing multiplayer first can be hard
#5409 [20:47] <Sami> Im watching tutorials mbentley :D
#5410 [20:48] <mbentley> great idea :D
#5411 [20:48] <xales> multiplayer has lag and griefers
#5412 [20:48] <mbentley> they will really help
#5413 [20:48] <xales> single player has exploding green penises :(
#5414 [20:48] <Sami> griefers?
#5415 [20:48] <mbentley> people who destroy things
#5416 [20:48] <xales> A griefer is a player in a multiplayer video game that purposely irritates and harasses other players.
#5417 [20:48] <Wahrheit> no griefers on my server :D
#5418 [20:48] <Sami> can we take a weapon and attack?
#5419 [20:49] <mbentley> they will set stuff on fire, put lava on your stuff, etc
#5420 [20:49] <mbentley> certainly
#5421 [20:49] <xales> Sami: yes, but that will be considered griefing if you attack without provocation
#5422 [20:49] <xales> also, a griefer will probably have better stuff than you and will beat you
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#5424 [20:49] <Sami> But if someones laying siege to my house...
#5425 [20:49] <xales> Sami: then you should probably call a server admin to ban them
#5426 [20:49] <Sami> Burning it etc.
#5427 [20:49] <xales> rather than try to kill them
#5428 [20:49] <mbentley> i'd say that is fair game to fight back lol
#5429 [20:49] <Sami> Ah..
#5430 [20:49] <xales> because they will likely kill you
#5431 [20:49] <Wahrheit> BUILD HOUSE FROM OBSIDIAN
#5432 [20:49] <Wahrheit> ATTACK WITH TNT
#5433 [20:49] <Wahrheit> FEAR NOTHING
#5434 [20:49] <xales> Wahrheit: lol
#5435 [20:49] <Sami> FIRE THE CANNONS!
#5436 [20:49] <Wahrheit> WIN EVERYTHING
#5437 [20:49] <mbentley> most people won't try to destroy your stuff
#5438 [20:50] <lemon-rev> if your server or host, are you admin by default and how you kick someone lol
#5439 [20:50] <mbentley> unless that is the purpose of the server :(
#5440 [20:50] <mbentley> *:)
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#5442 [20:50] <Sami> interesting how PvP skill measures in this game
#5443 [20:50] <Sami> they'll kill me how? With their super high end weapon they just crafted?
#5444 [20:50] <xales> Sami: it mostly comes down to lag, and whoever has higher quality sword
#5445 [20:51] <xales> or more arrows
#5446 [20:51] <xales> it doesnt take much time to get a diamond sword
#5447 [20:51] <Sami> would be interesting to see a bunch of fellows sieging my building.
#5448 [20:51] <Sami> Any servers like that featuring war?
#5449 [20:51] <xales> Sami: not really
#5450 [20:51] <xales> people tend to oppose having people destroy the stuff they spend 20+ hours on
#5451 [20:51] <Sami> I think it has potential.
#5452 [20:52] <Wahrheit> sometimes you can make wars and stuff
#5453 [20:52] <Wahrheit> like if you plan it
#5454 [20:52] <xales> your welcome to do whatever you like though
#5455 [20:52] <xales> if you want to have a war with someone, thats up to you
#5456 [20:52] <Sami> Not really if the theme is not war.
#5457 [20:52] <mbentley> this one time i set a friend's house made of all wood on fire
#5458 [20:52] <mbentley> i thought he was gonna cry
#5459 [20:52] <mbentley> lol
#5460 [20:53] <Sami> ...
#5461 [20:53] <mbentley> i didn't tell him that i took a backup before i did it though ;)
#5462 [20:53] <Sami> I must invent the sniper.
#5463 [20:53] <Sami> (in minecraft)
#5464 [20:53] <mbentley> would be difficult since your name is posted above your character and can be seen even when you are underground
#5465 [20:53] <xales> mbentley: not while sneaking
#5466 [20:54] <xales> or so i ahve been told
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#5468 [20:54] <Sami> And can we build turrets etc or anything that has a dynamic reaction?
#5469 [20:54] <Sami> Rather than being a brick..
#5470 [20:54] <Sami> a functional brick.
#5471 [20:55] <xales> Sami, you can
#5472 [20:55] <xales> it is very, very complicated
#5473 [20:55] <Sami> for example?
#5474 [20:55] <xales> and you probably would need a degree in electrical engineering to pull it off :(
#5475 [20:55] <Sami> What do you mean?
#5476 [20:55] <xales> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_circuits
#5477 [20:55] <Sami> Was it done before?
#5478 [20:56] <xales> Sami: reactive things have been done before. you can make cannons
#5479 [20:56] <xales> not really a turret
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#5481 [20:56] <Sami> well cannon=turret=any other moving thing.
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#5483 [20:57] <Sami> Not specifically one.
#5484 [20:57] <Sami> Can you tell me what advanced things have been built before?
#5485 [20:57] <xales> Sami: a 16 bit CPU. ALUs. Cannons. umm
#5486 [20:57] <xales> i dont know all of them
#5487 [20:58] <Sami> CPU? ALU?
#5488 [20:58] <mbentley> i've build door locks
#5489 [20:58] <mbentley> someone actually build a processor
#5490 [20:58] <mbentley> *built
#5491 [20:58] <mbentley> it's crazy
#5492 [20:58] <Sami> processor for what?
#5493 [20:58] <Sami> Ingame computer?
#5494 [20:58] <mbentley> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkkyKZVzug
#5495 [20:58] <mbentley> it performs math operations
#5496 [20:59] <xales> Sami: ALU is the part of the CPU that performs arithmetic operations
#5497 [20:59] <Wahrheit> mbentley: I'm getting screwed by the inability to keep up and I'
#5498 [20:59] <Wahrheit> 'm even getting disconnected now
#5499 [20:59] <xales> someone built a functional CPU (just like the one you have in your computer...just not as complicated)
#5500 [20:59] <Sami> Whats its use in game?
#5501 [20:59] <Sami> wathng vid*
#5502 [21:00] <mbentley> Wahrheit: it sounds like that vps isn't suited for a minecraft server :(
#5503 [21:00] <Wahrheit> =/
#5504 [21:00] <mbentley> there really isn't a huge use for it Sami
#5505 [21:00] <mbentley> it is just amazing that someone made such a massive thing
#5506 [21:00] <xales> Sami: there is no use. people made it to show that they are geekier than everyone else
#5507 [21:01] <mbentley> lol true xales
#5508 [21:01] <Sami> its just a bunch of blocks that looks like a cpu hmm..
#5509 [21:01] <xales> Sami: no, it actually functions
#5510 [21:01] <xales> and actually does math
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#5512 [21:02] <Sami> odd..thing in the video takes half of the map.
#5513 [21:03] <Sami> has bricks&torches&fuse
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#5515 [21:04] <Sami> I suppose things like cannon etc dont have a mesh.
#5516 [21:04] <Sami> A cannon will function
#5517 [21:04] <Sami> but its a brick.
#5518 [21:04] <xales> cannons shoot TNT
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#5520 [21:07] <LAWLandMine> Hello everyone
#5521 [21:07] <LAWLandMine> How long does it normally take for a gift code to arrive?
#5522 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> !premium
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#5524 [21:08] <LAWLandMine> I just purchased one and I haven't received an email from the website or PayPal regarding the transaction.
#5525 [21:08] * GreyVulpine nods.
#5525 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Paypal's a bit slow.
#5526 [21:08] <Sami> LAW
#5527 [21:08] <Sami> I paid via aypal
#5528 [21:08] <Sami> recieved an email.
#5529 [21:09] <xales> I believe it may just be giftcodes having issues then?
#5530 [21:09] <Sami> Btw,a cannon shooting TNT brick destroyed the building :O
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#5532 [21:09] <xales> Sami: TNT does tend to blow things up
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#5534 [21:09] <LAWLandMine> Well I'm a bit worried because PayPal hasn't even emailed me so it worries me that I have essentially no proof of the transaction other than my bank statement.
#5535 [21:09] * tumbleweed is now known as bildramer
#5536 [21:09] <xales> also, blocky is the graphics style of the game. everything is a block
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#5538 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> LAWLandMine - Just be patient.
#5539 [21:10] <mbentley> !premium
#5540 [21:10] <LAWLandMine> Okay, thanks for the help.
#5541 [21:10] <Sami> Doesnt look like a way to kill monsters though
#5542 [21:10] <Sami> Shoots very fr
#5543 [21:10] <Sami> far
#5544 [21:11] <xales> Sami: TNT is not designed for killing mobs
#5545 [21:11] <xales> it is designed for "landscaping"
#5546 [21:11] <xales> cannons arent really for anything
#5547 [21:11] <xales> they are cannons for the sake of cannons
#5548 [21:12] <Sami> Mind If I ask why do you play the game?
#5549 [21:12] <Sami> Whats your aim?
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#5551 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> One aspect: http://i.imgur.com/QuCWB.gif
#5552 [21:13] <Wahrheit> get more people to my site
#5553 [21:13] <Wahrheit> have fun
#5554 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> This was reddit's public server
#5555 [21:13] <Wahrheit> etc
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#5557 [21:14] <mbentley> wow GreyVulpine, that is impressive
#5558 [21:14] <xales> Sami: I play the game to have fun. I do not use garbage like aim :(
#5559 [21:14] <Wahrheit> consider how many peopl played it though lol
#5560 [21:15] <mbentley> lol true
#5561 [21:15] <Wahrheit> I SEE KINGDROM OF LOATHING
#5562 [21:15] <Wahrheit> :d
#5563 [21:15] <Wahrheit> :D
#5564 [21:15] <xales> GreyVulpine: thats nuts
#5565 [21:15] <Sami> someone has created a city even
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#5567 [21:15] <Sami> Thats suddenly very interesting.
#5568 [21:18] <Wahrheit> HOW IS THERE LAVA ON THE TOP LEVEL
#5569 [21:18] <Wahrheit> THIS KEEPS HAPPENING
#5570 [21:18] <Wahrheit> mbentley: how do I download my map from my linux server? lava started a forest fire
#5571 [21:19] <mbentley> use a program like winscp. i would suggest making a zip or tar of the world
#5572 [21:19] <mbentley> because downloading those directories will take a while
#5573 [21:19] <xales> winscp? O_o. use psftp :(
#5574 [21:19] <xales> scp is outdated
#5575 [21:19] <mbentley> xales: it uses multiple protocols
#5576 [21:19] <mbentley> including sftp
#5577 [21:20] <xales> mbentley: oh well
#5578 [21:20] * xales is used to the unix philosophy
#5578 [21:20] <xales> "do one thing, and do it well" :(
#5579 [21:20] <xales> not really modern though
#5580 [21:20] <Wahrheit> how do you tar it?
#5581 [21:20] <mbentley> i use scp a lot at work
#5582 [21:21] <xales> "doo everything - and do it piss poor"
#5583 [21:21] <xales> Wahrheit: "tar -cvzf (tar file name) (input files)"
#5584 [21:21] <mbentley> Wahrheit: do 'tar cf /world2.tar /tmp/minecraft/world2'
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#5586 [21:21] <xales> mbentley: might as well gzip it too
#5587 [21:22] <mbentley> if you want to compress it... 'tar zcf /world2.tar.gz /tmp/minecraft/world2'
#5588 [21:22] <Wahrheit> no such directory tmp
#5589 [21:22] <mbentley> need the slash
#5590 [21:22] <Wahrheit> didn't like it
#5591 [21:23] <Wahrheit> I think the tmp got deleted at some point
#5592 [21:23] <Wahrheit> my server kinda crashed earlier
#5593 [21:23] <Wahrheit> that's why I was freaking out
#5594 [21:23] <mbentley> heh
#5595 [21:23] <xales> wait wtf
#5596 [21:23] <mbentley> if it rebooted, then it might have lost it
#5597 [21:23] <xales> minecraft stores world data in /tmp?
#5598 [21:23] <Wahrheit> no
#5599 [21:23] <mbentley> xales: no
#5600 [21:23] <Wahrheit> we made it do that
#5601 [21:23] <xales> oh
#5602 [21:23] <xales> lol
#5603 [21:23] <Wahrheit> so what do?
#5604 [21:23] <mbentley> we were testing it with a ramdisk on this vps
#5605 [21:23] <Wahrheit> no data appears to have been lost
#5606 [21:24] <mbentley> Wahrheit: there should still be a /tmp
#5607 [21:24] <mbentley> did you copy my command?
#5608 [21:24] <Wahrheit> nope.jpg
#5609 [21:24] <Wahrheit> I did
#5610 [21:24] <mbentley> or just retype it
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#5612 [21:24] <mbentley> do a 'ls -l /tmp'
#5613 [21:24] <Wahrheit> tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
#5614 [21:24] <Wahrheit> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 24 18:34 hsperfdata_root
#5615 [21:24] <Wahrheit> drwxrwxrwt 3 root root 60 Dec 24 17:10 minecraft
#5616 [21:24] <Stomper> Hey, does anyone know how to make a hm0d server run with more ram? or run, faster? for that matter?
#5617 [21:24] <mbentley> it is still there
#5618 [21:24] <Wahrheit> No idea sorry :(
#5619 [21:25] <xales> Stomper: you probably need a better computer to run it on
#5620 [21:25] <mbentley> tar zcf /world2.tar.gz /tmp/minecraft/world2
#5621 [21:25] <mbentley> you need that exact command
#5622 [21:25] <xales> do you mean use more ram, or do you mean get more ram for it to use
#5623 [21:25] <Wahrheit> acting
#5624 [21:25] <Stomper> use more ram.
#5625 [21:25] <xales> the server should complain in the "not enough ram" message
#5626 [21:25] <xales> and tell you how to run it
#5627 [21:25] <xales> using java -Xsomething -Xsomething -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#5628 [21:26] <Stomper> But.. I don't really understand that.
#5629 [21:26] <Stomper> Yeah.
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#5631 [21:26] <Stomper> I don't really understand what that means, though.
#5632 [21:26] <Stomper> :/
#5633 [21:26] <WienerWuerstel> Good Evening Gentlemen
#5634 [21:26] <xales> Stomper: its the command you have to use to run it
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#5636 [21:27] <WienerWuerstel> I hope you all have a Merry Christmas and Stuff
#5637 [21:27] <Stomper> ohk.
#5638 [21:27] <Wahrheit> [root@summaxr ~]# tar zcf /world2.tar.gz /tmp/minecraft/world2
#5639 [21:27] <Wahrheit> tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
#5640 [21:27] <Wahrheit> lol
#5641 [21:27] <mbentley> ah
#5642 [21:27] <Stomper> ...
#5643 [21:27] <mbentley> one sec...
#5644 [21:27] <WienerWuerstel> But now to my Question. Anyone know how to open Ports on a Linksys Router for the Minecraft Server?
#5645 [21:28] <mbentley> cd /tmp/minecraft; tar zcf /world2.tar.gz ./world2
#5646 [21:28] <Wahrheit> Yeah!
#5647 [21:28] <xales> mbentley: thats the warning about it not leaving / in the arching (would extract to / when you unextracted)
#5648 [21:28] <Wahrheit> 192.168.1.1
#5649 [21:28] <WienerWuerstel> Thanks in Advance Guys
#5650 [21:28] <xales> if you didnt know
#5651 [21:28] <Wahrheit> no user, password admin
#5652 [21:28] <Wahrheit> go to games and applications
#5653 [21:28] <xales> WienerWuerstel: portforward.com
#5654 [21:28] <Wahrheit> and then type in the port number
#5655 [21:28] <mbentley> xales: yeah
#5656 [21:28] <WienerWuerstel> Das ist die Wahrheit
#5657 [21:28] <Wahrheit> tcp and udp
#5658 [21:28] <Wahrheit> I don't speak german
#5659 [21:28] <Wahrheit> I just like the name
#5660 [21:28] <Wahrheit> :DDD
#5661 [21:28] <Wahrheit> Wahrheit sounds cooler than Truth
#5662 [21:28] <WienerWuerstel> I like it too
#5663 [21:28] <Wahrheit> :p
#5664 [21:28] <Wahrheit> So anyway
#5665 [21:29] <Wahrheit> Type in the ports on the games and apps screen
#5666 [21:29] <Wahrheit> save
#5667 [21:29] <Wahrheit> and you're good to go!
#5668 [21:29] <Wahrheit> mbentley: done, next?
#5669 [21:29] <mbentley> just download the file /world2.tar.gz to your pc using a file transfer program
#5670 [21:30] <Wahrheit> I don't have ftp set up though
#5671 [21:30] <Wahrheit> we couldn't make it work remember?
#5672 [21:30] <mbentley> don't think i was here for that... how are you running commands?
#5673 [21:30] <mbentley> a ssh window?
#5674 [21:30] <WienerWuerstel> xales, Thank You Sir. Didn't thought that this Site can be so helpful
#5675 [21:30] <xales> WienerWuerstel: no problem
#5676 [21:30] <Wahrheit> Yeah
#5677 [21:30] <mbentley> then you can use winscp
#5678 [21:30] <Wahrheit> Oh clone was the one helping me set up ftp
#5679 [21:31] <mbentley> ftp is a waste of time
#5680 [21:31] <Wahrheit> I got some admin program thing
#5681 [21:31] <mbentley> winscp works as long as you have ssh setup
#5682 [21:31] <Wahrheit> I like ftp though it's easy :(
#5683 [21:31] <xales> sftp is easier
#5684 [21:31] <xales> ftp is old
#5685 [21:31] <xales> and insecure
#5686 [21:31] <Wahrheit> So anyway
#5687 [21:31] <xales> might as well use gopher for web browsing too
#5688 [21:31] <mbentley> i die a little inside every time someone sends a file with ftp ;)
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#5690 [21:32] <mbentley> you need the winscp client. google should help with that
#5691 [21:32] <Wahrheit> installin'
#5692 [21:32] <mbentley> cool
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#5695 [21:33] <Kirdog> Hi everyone
#5696 [21:33] <mbentley> hi
#5697 [21:34] <Kirdog> I have a problem with purchasing the game
#5698 [21:34] <mbentley> !premium
#5699 [21:34] <Kealper> lol
#5700 [21:34] <Kirdog> aaa
#5701 [21:34] <Kirdog> i see
#5702 [21:34] <Kirdog> ok ))
#5703 [21:34] <Wahrheit> http://www.youtuberepeat.com/watch/?v=lQlIhraqL7o :DDDD
#5704 [21:34] <mbentley> Kealper: glad you set that up?
#5705 [21:34] <mbentley> i know i am :D
#5706 [21:34] <Kealper> indeed
#5707 [21:34] <Kirdog> hope my money will not lost
#5708 [21:34] <Wahrheit> Kealper: Thank you for that
#5709 [21:34] <Wahrheit> Kirdog: It won't :)
#5710 [21:35] <Kirdog> good!
#5711 [21:35] <Kirdog> sorry about my english
#5712 [21:35] <Kirdog> ))
#5713 [21:35] <mbentley> your english seems ok to me ;)
#5714 [21:35] <Kirdog> thanks )
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#5716 [21:36] <Sami> kirdog
#5717 [21:36] <Sami> I also bought today
#5718 [21:36] <Wahrheit> mbentley: installed, connect like I do with putty?
#5719 [21:36] <mbentley> yup
#5720 [21:36] <Sami> same as your situation so dont worry
#5721 [21:36] <Kirdog> i bought game for my friend
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#5723 [21:37] <Kirdog> i already bought 3 month ago
#5724 [21:37] <Sami> ah..Im new.
#5725 [21:37] <Kirdog> for me)
#5726 [21:37] <Sami> Minecraft any fun for you?
#5727 [21:38] <Kirdog> i like gemes like minecraft
#5728 [21:38] <Kirdog> building ang design ))
#5729 [21:38] <Sami> multiplayer is any good?
#5730 [21:38] <OliverHunter> It's alright
#5731 [21:38] <Kirdog> also i'm admin of big survival server
#5732 [21:38] <OliverHunter> A lot of people can be a pain though.
#5733 [21:38] <xales> single player is often better than multiplayer imho
#5734 [21:39] <Kirdog> and i hold classic server
#5735 [21:39] <Wahrheit> oh cool it connected
#5736 [21:39] <OliverHunter> MP is fun with friends at least
#5737 [21:39] <OliverHunter> but just going on servers in general seems to be mostly annoying.
#5738 [21:39] <Kirdog> Or for team building!!
#5739 [21:39] <mbentley> Wahrheit: just change directory to the root ( / )
#5740 [21:39] <Sami> why so? The griefers?
#5741 [21:39] <Wahrheit> workan on it
#5742 [21:39] <mbentley> should see the 'world2.tar.gz' file
#5743 [21:40] <mbentley> rest is pretty basic.
#5744 [21:40] <Kirdog> griefers is a problem!
#5745 [21:40] <Wahrheit> transferan
#5746 [21:40] <xales> Sami: and its laggy quite often
#5747 [21:40] <Sami> I am very new..will need a server to play on.
#5748 [21:40] <Wahrheit> nah only .tar
#5749 [21:40] <Wahrheit> but it's okay
#5750 [21:40] <Wahrheit> Sami, you can play on mine once I fix it :)
#5751 [21:40] <Sami> xales gave me one
#5752 [21:40] <Kirdog> but whitelist is a way to protect the server
#5753 [21:40] <Wahrheit> okay transfered
#5754 [21:40] <Wahrheit> can mineedit edit .tar files?
#5755 [21:40] <Sami> Sure wahrheit,let me know when
#5756 [21:40] <mbentley> no
#5757 [21:40] <mbentley> you need to extract it with something like 7zip or winrar
#5758 [21:41] <Wahrheit> aight
#5759 [21:41] <Wahrheit> I HAVE THOSE LOL
#5760 [21:41] <Wahrheit> I don't know vps
#5761 [21:41] <Wahrheit> I know computers in general very well
#5762 [21:41] <xales> Wahrheit: http://linuxcommand.org/
#5763 [21:41] <xales> read that in your free time
#5764 [21:41] <Wahrheit> alsjkdaklsjd
#5765 [21:41] <Wahrheit> >free time
#5766 [21:41] <Wahrheit> Also mbentley I don't think it archived right
#5767 [21:41] <xales> or when your working on your minecraft server
#5768 [21:42] <mbentley> i am not all that smart. i just know how to google extremely well.
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#5770 [21:42] <mbentley> Wahrheit: why do you say that
#5771 [21:42] <Maiku2> im getting error 7fe027 it says my drivers need to be updated. i don't know where to start :
#5772 [21:43] <WienerWuerstel> Still doesn't work. I just love my Router
#5773 [21:43] <xales> Maiku2: are you using a laptop
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#5776 [21:43] <NinjaBoyZero> Hello
#5777 [21:43] <NinjaBoyZero> anyone here?
#5778 [21:43] <Wahrheit> because when I tried to open the archive
#5779 [21:43] <Kirdog> yes
#5780 [21:43] <Kirdog> )
#5781 [21:43] <WienerWuerstel> I believe so
#5782 [21:43] <Wahrheit> it said there was nothing there?
#5783 [21:43] <Maiku2> no desktop
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#5785 [21:43] <Maiku2> xales
#5786 [21:43] <xales> Maiku2: do you know what kind of graphics card you have?
#5787 [21:43] <mbentley> Wahrheit: is the .tar.gz file 0 bytes?
#5788 [21:44] <NinjaBoyZero_> Hey, can someone help me?
#5789 [21:44] <mbentley> NinjaBoyZero_: just ask
#5790 [21:44] <Wahrheit> it's 10kb
#5791 [21:44] <NinjaBoyZero_> I bought minecraft over 1 and 1/2 month ago and it still says user not premium
#5792 [21:44] <Wahrheit> but it's just .tar
#5793 [21:44] <Wahrheit> not .gz
#5794 [21:44] <mbentley> Wahrheit: that's not right then....
#5795 [21:44] <Kirdog> 3•12 NinjaBoyZero_ 3• for what? )
#5796 [21:44] <NinjaBoyZero_> i also emailed them
#5797 [21:44] <Maiku2> hhold on ill tell ya
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#5799 [21:44] <Wahrheit> Ninja: Email notch
#5800 [21:44] <mbentley> support@mojang.com
#5801 [21:44] <Kirdog> 3•12 NinjaBoyZero_ 3• oh strange
#5802 [21:44] <Wahrheit> Wat do
#5803 [21:44] <NinjaBoyZero_> i did, he never replied
#5804 [21:44] <NinjaBoyZero_> i still have my transaction id
#5805 [21:44] <NinjaBoyZero_> i sent that to him as well
#5806 [21:44] <xales> NinjaBoyZero_: it may take a little while
#5807 [21:44] <mbentley> Wahrheit: in putty, run 'du -hs /tmp/minecraft' and tell me what it says
#5808 [21:44] <xales> he lives in sweden
#5809 [21:44] <Jezza> NinjaBoyZero: He probably has alot of emails to go through
#5810 [21:45] <xales> its currently the middle of the night there
#5811 [21:45] <Maiku2> geforce 6150SE nforce 430
#5812 [21:45] <NinjaBoyZero_> i emailed him over 1 and 1/2 months ago
#5813 [21:45] <xales> can we get mode +c please?
#5814 [21:45] <mbentley> he said 1.5 months ago
#5815 [21:45] <Kealper> EEEW
#5816 [21:45] <xales> Kealper: +c please
#5817 [21:45] <NinjaBoyZero_> and emailed him every weekend
#5818 [21:45] <Kealper> C or c? big difference
#5819 [21:45] <mbentley> NinjaBoyZero_: what email address?
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#5821 [21:45] <xales> little c
#5822 [21:45] <xales> no color
#5823 [21:45] <xales> :)
#5824 [21:45] <Kealper> 90% sure C is no color
#5825 [21:45] <NinjaBoyZero_> both payment@mojang.com and support@mojang.com
#5826 [21:45] <Wahrheit> 5.2M /tmp/minecraft
#5827 [21:45] <Crazy> Well then
#5828 [21:45] <Maiku2> xales
#5829 [21:45] <xales> nope
#5830 [21:45] <xales> its little c
#5831 [21:46] <Wahrheit> did you get a paypal confirmation and do you have proof of billing?
#5832 [21:46] <Crazy> So Oliver
#5833 [21:46] <Jezza> I have a quick question, on the website it shows a list of servers but i want to join through my client can i get their IPs?
#5834 [21:46] <Maiku2> geforce 6150SE nforce 430
#5835 [21:46] <mbentley> Wahrheit: then do 'rm /world2.tar.gz'
#5836 [21:46] <xales> http://webtoman.com/opera/panel/ircdmodes.html
#5837 [21:46] <NinjaBoyZero_> yes
#5838 [21:46] <NinjaBoyZero_> i do
#5839 [21:46] <Wahrheit> Jezza you don't need the ip just use the dns name
#5840 [21:46] <Wahrheit> done
#5841 [21:46] <xales> Maiku2: geforce 6150? that sounds like a very, very old card
#5842 [21:46] <Kealper> Kirdog: stop the nick highlight script...i'm too lazy to remove colors from the channel
#5843 [21:46] <mbentley> then re-run 'cd /tmp/minecraft; tar czf /world2.tar.gz ./world2'
#5844 [21:46] <xales> Kealper: /mode +c
#5845 [21:46] <xales> :(
#5846 [21:46] <NinjaBoyZero_> lol i have the same card
#5847 [21:46] <Maiku2> i see
#5848 [21:46] <Kirdog> Ok sorry
#5849 [21:46] <Jezza> and where do I find their DNS name?
#5850 [21:46] <xales> Maiku2: how old is the computer?
#5851 [21:46] <NinjaBoyZero_> my comp is very onld
#5852 [21:47] <xales> it may be too old to run the game
#5853 [21:47] <NinjaBoyZero_> old
#5854 [21:47] <NinjaBoyZero_> no
#5855 [21:47] <NinjaBoyZero_> i can run it
#5856 [21:47] <Kealper> there...problem solved and aubot still gets to spam in red color lol
#5857 [21:47] <Kirdog> oO
#5858 [21:47] <xales> lol
#5859 [21:47] <Kirdog> ok
#5860 [21:47] <Maiku2> idk it is running vista until i installed win7 on it just a feww mins ago
#5861 [21:47] <Wahrheit> How do I navigate to the temp folder?
#5862 [21:47] <NinjaBoyZero_> anyways, Wahrheit
#5863 [21:47] <Kirdog> I have just virc client
#5864 [21:47] <NinjaBoyZero_> i do have proof
#5865 [21:47] <Wahrheit> in winscp
#5866 [21:47] <mbentley> Wahrheit: cd /tmp
#5867 [21:47] <Maiku2> ninja can you run minecraft?
#5868 [21:47] <NinjaBoyZero_> yeah
#5869 [21:47] <Wahrheit> in winscp
#5870 [21:47] <mbentley> ah
#5871 [21:47] <Kirdog> thats why its highlight nicknames
#5872 [21:47] <Kirdog> )
#5873 [21:47] <Maiku2> i think i might be able to then i hope
#5874 [21:48] <mbentley> there is a button... let me fire it up
#5875 [21:48] <xales> Maiku2: how many years ago did you get the computer
#5876 [21:48] <Kealper> a highlight just means you say their name >.>
#5877 [21:48] <xales> because that card seems like it wouldn't even support modern shaders or anything like that
#5878 [21:48] <Wahrheit> nevermind found it
#5879 [21:48] <NinjaBoyZero_> well im using it and i can run it
#5880 [21:48] <Maiku2> well i just got it from my grandads who passed away....i can look into the devices and system properties if you like
#5881 [21:48] <mbentley> heh ok
#5882 [21:48] <NinjaBoyZero_> but cant put on best settings
#5883 [21:48] <Wahrheit> there's no .tar.gz in the tmp folder htough
#5884 [21:48] <Yossi> there is a mountain blocking the view from my front door.
#5885 [21:48] <Wahrheit> no
#5886 [21:48] <Wahrheit> wiat
#5887 [21:48] <Wahrheit> I lied
#5888 [21:48] <Wahrheit> >scrolling
#5889 [21:48] <Yossi> i think i shall chop it down.
#5890 [21:49] <xales> Maiku2: can you tell me what the system identifies your card as? because what you gave me seems like the chipset and the card mushed together
#5891 [21:49] <mbentley> Wahrheit: that is because it created it in /
#5892 [21:49] <xales> Maiku2: ideally, look in device manager
#5893 [21:49] <Wahrheit> yeah I found it
#5894 [21:49] <mbentley> Wahrheit: you might just drag n drop the 'world2' folder from /tmp/minecraft/ and it shouldn't take too long as it is only 5.2 MB
#5895 [21:49] <NinjaBoyZero_> Wahrheit: i have proof of purchase, what now?
#5896 [21:50] <Wahrheit> Email it to notch
#5897 [21:50] <Wahrheit> Every possible record and screenshot
#5898 [21:50] <NinjaBoyZero_> i did
#5899 [21:50] <Wahrheit> Do it again
#5900 [21:50] <Wahrheit> Did you pay via paypal?
#5901 [21:50] <Maiku2> im in there....it says under display adapters nvidia geforce 6150SE nforce 430 microsoft corporation mmd
#5902 [21:50] <NinjaBoyZero_> yes
#5903 [21:50] <xales> NinjaBoyZero_: how long ago did you do this? its been nighttime in Sweden for a while now
#5904 [21:50] <Wahrheit> Then take the transaction number etc
#5905 [21:50] <NinjaBoyZero_> i emailed that too
#5906 [21:50] <Maiku2> noooooooo
#5907 [21:50] <Jezza> Is there a list of servers somewhere where I can join through my client (not the browser)?
#5908 [21:51] <mbentley> Jezza: on the forums
#5909 [21:51] <xales> Maiku2: that card is not modern enough to run OpenGL I believe, which is the issue
#5910 [21:51] <Jezza> oh yeah, i'll look around, thanks
#5911 [21:51] <Maiku2> let me ask this....can i update my drivers? or is the info not specific enough to know the drivers
#5912 [21:51] <xales> its almost 6 years old
#5913 [21:51] <OliverHunter> Alright, a friend of mine Crazy here is having trouble setting up a Vannila server.
#5914 [21:51] <xales> Maiku2: the problem isnt with up to date drivers
#5915 [21:51] <Maiku2> foooey
#5916 [21:51] <xales> there wont be any new drivers anyway
#5917 [21:51] <OliverHunter> It's having trouble generating the properties file, it keeps failing and trying again.
#5918 [21:51] <Jezza> oh my bad, I see now thanks mbentley
#5919 [21:51] <xales> its that the card doesnt support the technologies that minecraft uses
#5920 [21:51] <Maiku2> ah well im going to try to run doom.
#5921 [21:51] <mbentley> np
#5922 [21:52] <Wahrheit> Jezza you can join mine when it's up :)
#5923 [21:52] <Maiku2> definatly wont run halo combat evolved then huh?
#5924 [21:52] <xales> Maiku2: it might, I have no idea
#5925 [21:52] <mbentley> no, a 6150 should run it
#5926 [21:52] <Wahrheit> 2x XFX 5770 ftw
#5927 [21:52] <Jezza> wahrheit: Ok what's your IP
#5928 [21:52] <mbentley> should support opengl just fine
#5929 [21:52] <Jezza> :o
#5930 [21:52] <Kealper> hmm...after trying it in a different channel..it looks like this network's servers consider C and c as the same mode...
#5931 [21:53] <Maiku2> weird how it wont run shitty pixel openGL but might run halo....lololo
#5932 [21:53] <OliverHunter> Congrats on the ops Kealper.
#5933 [21:53] <xales> Maiku2: here is the link to update drivers, but I dont think it will help. http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-260.99-whql-driver.html
#5934 [21:53] <Wahrheit> Jezza hold on
#5935 [21:53] <mbentley> that's a laptop, right Maiku2 ?
#5936 [21:53] <Jezza> Wahrheit: K
#5937 [21:53] * OliverHunter sits and waits on his turn for help.
#5937 [21:53] <xales> Kealper: +c is traditonally the no-color
#5938 [21:53] <Maiku2> no its a desktop lol
#5939 [21:53] <mbentley> espernet runs their own software
#5940 [21:53] <mbentley> Maiku2: ah ok
#5941 [21:53] <Wahrheit> Oliver, query me
#5942 [21:53] <Wahrheit> I will help if I can
#5943 [21:53] <Kealper> last server i was oper on it used c as something different than C and C was no color :S
#5944 [21:53] <mbentley> try those nvidia drivers then xales
#5945 [21:54] <Kealper> owell
#5946 [21:54] <Kealper> OliverHunter: what was your issue?
#5947 [21:54] <Jezza> most people having openGL problems can simply visit their brands website and take the steps to update their driver
#5948 [21:54] <xales> Kealper: unrealircd uses +c as no color, not sure about others
#5949 [21:54] <Wahrheit> something with his properties file
#5950 [21:54] <OliverHunter> Alright, a friend of mine Crazy here is having trouble setting up a Vannila server. - It's having trouble generating the properties file, it keeps failing and trying again.
#5951 [21:54] <Wahrheit> What error does it give?
#5952 [21:54] <Wahrheit> like, precisely
#5953 [21:54] <xales> Jezza: his card is too old to support the latest version of opengl, is what im thinking
#5954 [21:55] <mbentley> xales: i have ran it on older cards
#5955 [21:55] <Jezza> xales: Must be really old, if he updates the latest driver for that specific card i thought it'd have to have the right opengl :/
#5956 [21:55] <mbentley> have run?
#5957 [21:55] <mbentley> engrish
#5958 [21:55] <xales> mbentley: oh. well. :(
#5959 [21:55] <Wahrheit> mbentley: how do I re-upload it? winrar only compresses to .rar or .zip
#5960 [21:55] <xales> have run
#5961 [21:55] <xales> :P
#5962 [21:55] <mbentley> you can do zip
#5963 [21:56] <Kealper> dang lots of people chatting right now lol
#5964 [21:56] <OliverHunter> Yeah, I'm surprised with this room's activity.
#5965 [21:56] <Kealper> OliverHunter: what server? beta or classic?
#5966 [21:56] <Wahrheit> I'm uploading it to /tmp/minecraft/
#5967 [21:56] <mbentley> Wahrheit: good
#5968 [21:56] <OliverHunter> He's trying to set up a Beta Server, the one with a GUI.
#5969 [21:56] <mbentley> well thre are like 140+ people
#5970 [21:56] <xales> 146 :)
#5971 [21:57] <Wahrheit> okay it's in /tmp/minecraft/
#5972 [21:57] <Wahrheit> command?
#5973 [21:57] <Kealper> OliverHunter: it's just the server.properties it has issues with right?
#5974 [21:57] <OliverHunter> It's had 170 before with only 3 people talking.
#5975 [21:57] <NinjaBoyZero_> well i sent the email, hope they will reply asap
#5976 [21:57] <OliverHunter> Kealper, seems so, is it related to Vista?
#5977 [21:57] <NinjaBoyZero_> thank you for the help
#5978 [21:57] <NinjaBoyZero_> Happy Holidays.
#5979 [21:57] <OliverHunter> Becuase I noticed the same issue on my end when I tried to run it to help him.
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#5982 [21:58] <Kealper> no idea....where does he have the server file? because by default vista will probably not let it write anything into the program files dir
#5983 [21:58] <OliverHunter> Crazy, ya there?
#5984 [21:58] <mbentley> yeah, would need to run with admin rights in the program files directory
#5985 [21:59] <OliverHunter> And if the room's to active, I could /clear users, but that clear the settings and ban list and such too.
#5986 [21:59] <OliverHunter> :3
#5987 [21:59] * OliverHunter is now known as Oliver--
#5988 [21:59] * Oliver-- is now known as OliverHunter
#5989 [21:59] <Wahrheit> mbentley: what is the command to unzip?
#5990 [21:59] <OliverHunter> ~.^
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#5992 [21:59] <Kealper> i see what you did there
#5993 [21:59] <Wahrheit> ohshiz
#5994 [21:59] <mbentley> Wahrheit: unzip
#5995 [21:59] <mbentley> lol
#5996 [22:00] <OliverHunter> Don't tell anyone who I am if you figure it out please, I'm on vacation.
#5997 [22:00] <Crazy> Help?
#5998 [22:00] <OliverHunter> Alright, Help Crazy here, he's the one making the server.
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#6000 [22:00] <Kealper> OliverHunter: can i know? :3
#6001 [22:00] <OliverHunter> He's also very new to IRC
#6002 [22:00] <Crazy> And clueless
#6003 [22:00] <Kealper> Crazy: http://pastebin.com/ez13YCEa
#6004 [22:01] <Kealper> save that as server.properties in your server's folder
#6005 [22:02] <Crazy> Question is
#6006 [22:02] <Crazy> where the is the server folder
#6007 [22:02] <Kealper> anywhere you saved minecraft_server.exe lol
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#6010 [22:03] <Crazy> there is no folder o.O
#6011 [22:03] <Crazy> just the launcher
#6012 [22:03] <Fuinacius> ok, after buying it, how much more time should I wait to actually PLAY it?
#6013 [22:03] <xales> !premium
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#6015 [22:04] <Kealper> Crazy: uhh.....you do have minecraft_server.exe right?
#6016 [22:04] <Crazy> I downloaded it
#6017 [22:04] <Crazy> double clicked it opened it
#6018 [22:04] <Crazy> All I got is the launcher and no folders
#6019 [22:04] <Fuinacius> funny that this is not shown on the webpage I'll have to wait 1 day to use something I already paid for?
#6020 [22:04] <xales> Fuinacius: its a problem, that was unexpected
#6021 [22:05] <xales> they cannot control these things
#6022 [22:05] <Katsukai> Yeah i got the same problem haven't received my prem yet
#6023 [22:05] <Fuinacius> they can actually update the webpage with this info
#6024 [22:05] <xales> Fuinacius: not while they are asleep
#6025 [22:05] <Katsukai> They really should.
#6026 [22:05] <Katsukai> Bought the game like 5 hours ago.
#6027 [22:05] <xales> additionally, payments go through paypal. they cannot edit what is on paypal's site
#6028 [22:06] <xales> Katsukai: the automatic processing isnt currently working properly and nobody is in the office to manually do it
#6029 [22:06] <Fuinacius> paypal already sent the payment
#6030 [22:06] <xales> Mojang is a swedish company
#6031 [22:06] <Wahrheit> Fuinacius: It is out of minecraft's control, paypal is the one being slow...
#6032 [22:06] <xales> Fuinacius: I understand that, however, it has not properly alerted minecraft.net of this
#6033 [22:06] <Wahrheit> Notch will get to it when he can, your money is not lost
#6034 [22:06] <Katsukai> It does say complete as status though at paypal
#6035 [22:06] <Wahrheit> be patient
#6036 [22:06] <Kealper> Crazy: um...place your minecraft_server.exe somewhere where it will not be annoying, but not just in your downloads folder or something, then try running it again, but right click and select Run As Administrator
#6037 [22:06] <Katsukai> But guess we just have to wait.
#6038 [22:06] <Fuinacius> You sent a payment of 14,95 EUR to Mojang Specifications there was no "slowdown" on paypal side as I can see it...
#6039 [22:07] <Fuinacius> patience is not a virtue I have when buying...
#6040 [22:07] <mbentley> paypal has to notify the minecraft system
#6041 [22:07] <xales> Fuinacius: the slowdown is between paypal and the minecraft system. it has not notified minecraft that you have purchased it yet
#6042 [22:07] <Crazy> place is where?
#6043 [22:07] <Fuinacius> so the problem resides on minecraft side right?
#6044 [22:08] <xales> Crazy: where ever you like
#6045 [22:08] <xales> Fuinacius: no, it is likely paypal
#6046 [22:08] <Fuinacius> I doubt
#6047 [22:08] <mbentley> that's great
#6048 [22:08] <Fuinacius> because lotro transactions are going real time!
#6049 [22:08] <mbentley> we can't be sure
#6050 [22:08] <Fuinacius> and I do use paypal on lotro 2
#6051 [22:08] <mbentley> we are just people volunteering
#6052 [22:08] <Kealper> Crazy: anywhere; it could be in a folder called Minecaft Server or anything in your documents, on your desktop, whereever
#6053 [22:08] <xales> Fuinacius: paypal has the job of telling minecraft.net of the transaction, minecraft.net only has to active your account
#6054 [22:08] <xales> it is likely it is paypal having issues
#6055 [22:09] <xales> however, if you follow the steps provided, such as emailing payment@mojang.com with your transaction ID and username, you might get a solution faster
#6056 [22:09] <xales> rather than bitching to us here
#6057 [22:09] <xales> we are community volunteers; we do not work for Mojang
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#6059 [22:09] <Fuinacius> already did...
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#6061 [22:09] <Maiku2> yo xales i got it working...i just updated the drivers
#6062 [22:09] <xales> Maiku2: congrats
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#6064 [22:10] <xales> Fuinacius: then just wait
#6065 [22:10] <xales> it is currently around 1am in sweden
#6066 [22:10] <Maiku2> thanks for the links to nvidia whoever gave them to me...i forget who gave me the xp update links
#6067 [22:10] <xales> rather 4am
#6068 [22:10] <Crazy> I copied it
#6069 [22:10] <xales> Maiku2: I gave em to you :)
#6070 [22:10] <Crazy> and placed it in games
#6071 [22:10] <Crazy> that good?
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#6073 [22:10] <Maiku2> o ok thnx lo
#6074 [22:10] <Maiku2> l
#6075 [22:10] <Jorbazz> Hello
#6076 [22:11] <mib_reasrm> any one know what the fatal error (7) is on minecraft classic??
#6077 [22:11] <Maiku2> sorry my dog is on the keyboard
#6078 [22:11] <Fuinacius> I hate when I buy something suposed to be "pay and use" and I still have to wait...
#6079 [22:11] <Maiku2> 0
#6080 [22:11] <Maiku2> im out. later guys thanks again
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#6082 [22:11] <Crazy> now running it now as a Admin
#6083 [22:11] <Jorbazz> I bought minecraft for about 7-8 hours ago, when can i play?
#6084 [22:11] <xales> Fuinacius: you can complain all you want, it wont fix that there is a problem that is out of anyones control
#6085 [22:12] <xales> its like saing "well I went to use the microwave, which i bought to heat food. but the power was out. clearly, the microwave is at fault"
#6086 [22:12] <Stomper> Can someone please try connect to my server? I'm running some tests and stuff :/ :188.210.164.243
#6087 [22:12] <mib_reasrm> anyone?
#6088 [22:12] <Kealper> Crazy: as long as it starts and can generate the files it needs, it's fine lol
#6089 [22:12] <xales> mib_reasrm: classic is outdated, the problem could be anything
#6090 [22:12] <Crazy> Nope
#6091 [22:12] <Kealper> Crazy: still not?
#6092 [22:12] <xales> update your video card drivers, and update java
#6093 [22:12] <mib_reasrm> lol ok
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#6095 [22:12] <Stomper> Anyone?
#6096 [22:12] <Crazy> So do I create a Note pad file and put in the properties?
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#6098 [22:13] <Kealper> Crazy: scratch all that, copy your server on to a folder on your desktop, try running it from there...if it doesn't generate the files, then something more sinister could be up
#6099 [22:13] <mbentley> Stomper: one sec
#6100 [22:14] <Crazy> Well it's running
#6101 [22:14] <Crazy> but something is up not sure
#6102 [22:14] <Kealper> did it make a world folder?
#6103 [22:14] <Crazy> o.O
#6104 [22:14] <mbentley> Stomper: doesn't work
#6105 [22:14] <Crazy> Ja
#6106 [22:14] <mbentley> !check 188.210.164.243
#6107 [22:14] <Stomper> Uuhgh..
#6108 [22:14] <mbentley> no route to host
#6109 [22:15] <Kealper> Crazy: well, if it works...lol
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#6111 [22:15] <Crazy> So it says Minecraft sever java thing
#6112 [22:15] <Crazy> but no game pops up that I see
#6113 [22:15] <kyle6513> so, has notch fixed the problem with minecraft killing NIC's yet?
#6114 [22:15] <Fuinacius> xales, sorry, actually it's a problem on minecraft system... it should be updated on minecraft webpage, instead of just having the buy button everywhere!
#6115 [22:16] <Yossi> ….skeletons can search through doors?
#6116 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> kyle6513 - The Atheros NICs?
#6117 [22:16] <Yossi> shoot, not search*
#6118 [22:16] <Kealper> you have to start your game and connect to it, open minecraft and connect to the multiplayer server "localhost" without quotes
#6119 [22:16] <Crazy> Just the sales chart thing
#6120 [22:16] <kyle6513> GreyVulpine, yep
#6121 [22:16] <Crazy> which is flat atm
#6122 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> kyle6513 - No
#6123 [22:16] <kyle6513> GreyVulpine, any temp fixes?
#6124 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Other than increasing your transmit/receive buffers, no
#6125 [22:16] <xales> Fuinacius: if you have a problem, don't buy the game. minecraft has no responsibility to spend their time to inform you of a problem, instead of working to fix it
#6126 [22:16] <xales> also, you do not know that it is a problem with minecraft
#6127 [22:17] <kyle6513> GreyVulpine, does that seem to resolve the issue?
#6128 [22:17] <Fuinacius> interesting that... if it's a PAYPAL problem... how can I pay for turbine points on lotro, and they get credited on my acount on the exact moment paypal complete the transaction?
#6129 [22:17] <mbentley> Fuinacius: CHILL
#6130 [22:17] <xales> Fuinacius: chill out
#6131 [22:17] <xales> we cannot help you
#6132 [22:17] <Fuinacius> pff
#6133 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> It decreases the chance you'll get the error, but it only lengthens the time between failures.
#6134 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't actually solve it
#6135 [22:17] <xales> once again, we are community volunteers
#6136 [22:17] <Crazy> I am so freaking confused
#6137 [22:17] <xales> we do this to help people, not get bitched at
#6138 [22:17] <kyle6513> GreyVulpine, ah alright then, thanks
#6139 [22:17] <Stomper> Hey Grey!
#6140 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Yo
#6141 [22:18] <Crazy> so there is a java thing that says Minecraft sever
#6142 [22:18] <Crazy> but no game
#6143 [22:18] <mbentley> believe me, if we could do something, we would!
#6144 [22:18] <Fuinacius> nice thing when you buy something thinking you'r helping and getting something fun to spend the nite, and when u complain about ur problem... u get a "shut up" as answer
#6145 [22:18] <Kealper> Crazy: did you download the game, aswell? lol
#6146 [22:18] <Fuinacius> thanx for nothing!
#6147 [22:18] <kyle6513> GreyVulpine, funny thing, I use linux under this machine and it runs fine forever, seems the drivers are better in linux ;)
#6148 [22:18] <Crazy> Yes of course hehe
#6149 [22:18] <xales> Fuinacius: we arent associated with Mojang and cannot help you
#6150 [22:18] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#6150 [22:18] <xales> if you continue to whine, you will be removed
#6151 [22:19] <Yossi> I complain all the time, and people help me. Maybe it's the whiny entitlement putting people off.
#6152 [22:19] <xales> Yossi: <3
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#6154 [22:19] * GreyVulpine agrees with Yossi.
#6154 [22:19] * Kealper has no idea what is going on...he was watching for Crazy's messages
#6154 [22:19] <Fuinacius> if u can't help... Y did u ever answered me?
#6155 [22:19] <mbentley> Fuinacius: nobody in here can actually solve the problem
#6156 [22:19] <mbentley> we aren't employees
#6157 [22:19] <xales> Fuinacius: to inform you that there is a known issue and that if you are patient, you will get a resolution
#6158 [22:20] <Kealper> Fuinacius: saying "i can't help" is much better than saying nothing at all...it shows that someone acknowledges you
#6159 [22:20] <Yossi> …so the silence of failure wouldn't be the only thing you heard? So you'd know we noticed but couldnt help you?
#6160 [22:20] <Crazy> Do I open the game
#6161 [22:20] <Kealper> yes Crazy
#6162 [22:20] <Crazy> and go to multiplayer and punch my ip in?
#6163 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Indeed Crazy
#6164 [22:20] <Kealper> indeed
#6165 [22:20] <Fuinacius> it's better to say "we can't help" that saying "it's a problem with other company" when even you don't actually know if it's true!
#6166 [22:21] <xales> Fuinacius: we have provided you with steps to take to resolve the issue as well as all information we have. as I said, if you continue to complain, you will be removed from the channel
#6167 [22:21] <Crazy> Keep timing out
#6168 [22:21] <Crazy> *keeps
#6169 [22:21] <mbentley> Fuinacius: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=site:minecraftforum.net+premium
#6170 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Crazy - Are you connecting with 127.0.0.1?
#6171 [22:21] <mbentley> there are many other people with the same issue right now
#6172 [22:21] <Crazy> No my ip?
#6173 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Connect with 127.0.0.1
#6174 [22:21] <Yossi> The chat is not, in fact, specifically here to help you as the entity Fulnacious. The chat is here to help and discuss all sorts of issues in Minecraft. Even a noob like me is doing their best to help where they can. Chill out and google it, that's how I solved my problem.
#6175 [22:22] <Crazy> ah
#6176 [22:22] <Crazy> that worked
#6177 [22:22] <Kealper> Crazy: so you got in alright?
#6178 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Apparently.
#6179 [22:22] <Crazy> I guess?
#6180 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Type in your server console - say Hello
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#6182 [22:22] <Crazy> It's in game
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#6184 [22:22] <Kealper> that means it worked
#6185 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Look at your client, does it say [console]: hello?
#6186 [22:23] <Fuinacius> mbentley: that's Y I said they should update the webpage. If there's a known issue with the payment system, instead of letting more people to get on this issue, it would be properly to advise those that buying the game now can result in a unexpected waiting time of 1 or more day. Just my opinion.
#6187 [22:23] <Crazy> it said on the java thing I logged in
#6188 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Ah, then it worked.
#6189 [22:23] <mbentley> i've sent an email, sent a tweet @notch so that is about all i can do myself
#6190 [22:24] <Crazy> I don't think it knows I am the maker tho
#6191 [22:24] <xales> Fuinacius: please do not keep stating your opinion. we understand that there is a problem, however there is nothing we can do to resolve it.
#6192 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Crazy - In your server java console, type - op yourname
#6193 [22:24] <Crazy> the java thing keeps getting spammed with CAN'T KEEP UP
#6194 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> That's normal
#6195 [22:25] <Kealper> Fuinacius: if all you are going to do is just complain, get out of the channel. no sense in crowding up the place with needless QQing
#6196 [22:25] <kontroll> Anything my buddy can do about his screen going black every now and then?
#6197 [22:26] <mbentley> kontroll: nothing i know of
#6198 [22:26] <Crazy> and
#6199 [22:26] <mbentley> i have the same issue
#6200 [22:26] <Crazy> every time I build something it goes boom
#6201 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> "goes boom"?
#6202 [22:26] <xales> Crazy: you cant build near where you spawn
#6203 [22:26] <xales> try walking away a bit
#6204 [22:26] <Crazy> Also
#6205 [22:26] <Crazy> I am falling
#6206 [22:26] <OliverHunter> Thanks for helping him out guys.
#6207 [22:26] <Crazy> endlessly
#6208 [22:26] <Crazy> D:
#6209 [22:26] <Crazy> the horror
#6210 [22:26] <OliverHunter> Sorry for being gone for a while Grey ._.;
#6211 [22:26] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#6211 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Nothing to be sorry for.
#6212 [22:27] <Crazy> THERE IS NO GROUND
#6213 [22:27] <Crazy> O_O
#6214 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Um.
#6215 [22:27] <Crazy> this is a mess
#6216 [22:27] <Kealper> loading slow ftw!
#6217 [22:27] <Crazy> No
#6218 [22:27] <mbentley> sounds like you might have a slow server?
#6219 [22:27] <Crazy> there is no ground
#6220 [22:27] <Crazy> I am falling endlessly
#6221 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Neat.
#6222 [22:27] <Wahrheit> My server keeps timing out and crashing and stuff and I'm giving it 1.7GB ram, wat do?
#6223 [22:27] <Kealper> even after this long?
#6224 [22:27] <Kealper> impressive
#6225 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Wahrheit - Does it give you any error logs you can post us?
#6226 [22:28] <Wahrheit> I just sent one
#6227 [22:28] <Crazy> Also
#6228 [22:28] <xales> sent one where?
#6229 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Sent.. one/
#6230 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> ?
#6231 [22:28] <Crazy> I have 4GB of ram
#6232 [22:28] <Crazy> I think I should be fine..
#6233 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Oh.. wait, the stupid windows thing
#6234 [22:28] <Wahrheit> support@mojang.com
#6235 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#6236 [22:28] <Wahrheit> http://pastebin.com/stMKnFcg
#6237 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> We don't have access to that
#6238 [22:28] <Wahrheit> that's what my CLIENT gave me
#6239 [22:28] <Wahrheit> server is just being slow as hell
#6240 [22:29] <Wahrheit> lots of [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#6241 [22:29] <xales> Wahrheit: thats normal
#6242 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> That's pretty normal
#6243 [22:29] <Wahrheit> http://pastebin.com/stMKnFcg
#6244 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Your client, on the other hand, has an outdated java version
#6245 [22:29] <Crazy> My server is like a Chimp on spee
#6246 [22:29] <Crazy> *speed
#6247 [22:29] <Wahrheit> bleh
#6248 [22:29] <Crazy> it makes no sense
#6249 [22:29] <Crazy> at all
#6250 [22:29] <Kealper> Crazy: ya know what.....i wonder....if your server never generated a map...
#6251 [22:30] <Crazy> For starters my character is in my inventory
#6252 [22:30] <OliverHunter> That's normal.
#6253 [22:30] <Crazy> I am not talking about next to the crafting thing
#6254 [22:30] <xales> Wahrheit: it looks like it got corrupt data from the server, possibly
#6255 [22:30] <mbentley> yeah, could be it couldn't write the world files?
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#6257 [22:30] <Crazy> I am talking about laying on his side in my inventory
#6258 [22:30] <xales> mbentley: not if the client is getting that error
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#6260 [22:31] <Crazy> then sever crashed
#6261 [22:31] <Crazy> this is a mess D:
#6262 [22:31] <Kealper> Crazy: wow..uh...yea..shut the game and the server down, and move your server's folder to your desktop
#6263 [22:31] <Kealper> and run it again...if it still can't generate stuff...as i said before something sinister may be going on
#6264 [22:32] <Crazy> you mean the world folder?
#6265 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> The whole server directory
#6266 [22:32] <mbentley> xales: sorry, was talking about Crazy's issue
#6267 [22:32] <Crazy> I see a ton of files and folders involving the sever
#6268 [22:32] <xales> mbentley: oh. it would still have them in ram I think
#6269 [22:33] <Kealper> Crazy: yea, it needs all of those; put them all in a folder called "Minecraft Server" on your desktop, then run minecraft_server.exe again
#6270 [22:33] <Crazy> this is like a tornado of disaster
#6271 [22:33] <mbentley> it's not that bad
#6272 [22:34] <mbentley> lol
#6273 [22:34] <Crazy> Pretty sure it is O_O
#6274 [22:34] <Kealper> normally it's just download and run the exe and it works lol
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#6276 [22:34] <mbentley> what a dick
#6277 [22:35] <Kealper> what a fag
#6278 [22:35] <Crazy> I just copied it and put it on my desktop
#6279 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, brazil.
#6280 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Well then
#6281 [22:35] <Crazy> Opened it
#6282 [22:35] <mbentley> oh well that explains it...
#6283 [22:35] <Crazy> and all hell broke loose
#6284 [22:35] * GreyVulpine coughs and sets +b on *!*@*.br
#6284 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#6285 [22:35] <Kealper> XD
#6286 [22:35] <xales> lol
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#6288 [22:35] <xales> maybe just nab his whole range
#6289 [22:36] <xales> 200-204-*.telesp.net.br
#6290 [22:36] <xales> :)
#6291 [22:36] <Kealper> Crazy: i'm going to pm you something in like 5 sec, just a heads up incase you miss it
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#6297 [22:39] <Stomper> 118.210.164.243
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#6299 [22:39] <Stomper> Can someone please test my server?
#6300 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> !check 118.210.164.243
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#6303 [22:40] <Stomper> uugghhh.
#6304 [22:40] <Dan> Hello?
#6305 [22:40] <Kealper> ello
#6306 [22:40] <mbentley> hola Dan
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#6308 [22:41] <Stomper> Wait, I think I know the problem.,.. gimme a sec.
#6309 [22:41] <Dan> How long does it usually take for a gift code to be emailed to you/placed on your profile page?
#6310 [22:41] <mbentley> !premium
#6311 [22:41] <Wahrheit> If you guys want my server (it's finally fixed) query me :)
#6312 [22:42] <Stomper> !check 118.210.164.243
#6313 [22:42] <xales> Dan: there are currently issues between Paypal and Mojang (minecraft), where somewhere along the line transaction notifications are not being properly sent, recieved, or processed
#6314 [22:42] <Stomper> Yay!
#6315 [22:42] <Dan> Oh dear.
#6316 [22:42] <Dan> What's the common solution?
#6317 [22:42] <xales> waiting is the only thing you can do
#6318 [22:42] <xales> you can also email payment@mojang.com with your transaction ID and username
#6319 [22:43] <Stomper> Can someone try join my server?
#6320 [22:43] <xales> however, it is a widespread issue
#6321 [22:43] <Stomper> See how laggy it is?
#6322 [22:43] <Wahrheit> !check minecraft.summaxr.com
#6323 [22:43] <Wahrheit> :D
#6324 [22:43] <Wahrheit> Is there a web script for server status?
#6325 [22:43] <Dan> Alright. So the payment will go through eventually, though?
#6326 [22:43] <xales> Wahrheit: somewhere
#6327 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> web script Wahrheit?
#6328 [22:43] <mbentley> yes Dan
#6329 [22:43] <xales> Dan: yes, hopefully tomorrow
#6330 [22:43] <Dan> Alright then. That's all I needed to know. Thanks!
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#6332 [22:43] <Wahrheit> Something I can embed on my portal
#6333 [22:43] <xales> its nice when people arent dumbasses
#6334 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Take a look at McMyAdmin
#6335 [22:43] <xales> <3 dan
#6336 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Word of caution, it's not entirely the most secure of code, but it's available.
#6337 [22:44] <Wahrheit> I want one to be public though
#6338 [22:44] * GreyVulpine nods
#6338 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Take a look at it
#6339 [22:44] <mbentley> Stomper: seems ok to me offhand
#6340 [22:45] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: that's MCAdmin that's not secure, McMyAdmin is different, and it's trustworthy
#6341 [22:45] <Stomper> How laggy is it for you, mbentley?
#6342 [22:45] <mbentley> wasn't laggy for me
#6343 [22:45] * GreyVulpine headtilts?
#6343 [22:45] <Stomper> At all?
#6344 [22:45] <mbentley> nah
#6345 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> I thought it was MCadmin that had the bad rep.
#6346 [22:46] <Stomper> That's great :D
#6347 [22:46] <mbentley> seemed solid
#6348 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> But McMyAdmin had insecure php code
#6349 [22:46] <mbentley> i didn't move around a TON but it seemed fine
#6350 [22:46] <xales> Stomper: it seems pretty laggy for me, it didnt load chunks and didnt let me build or destroy any blocks reasonably well
#6351 [22:46] <mbentley> let me try to do more
#6352 [22:46] <xales> mbentley: best way to test lag is to destroy a block
#6353 [22:46] <mbentley> i am also on my laptop so...
#6354 [22:46] <xales> and see how long it takes for the block to come into inventory
#6355 [22:46] <Wahrheit> Not what I want
#6356 [22:46] <Wahrheit> I just want a simple script
#6357 [22:47] <xales> Wahrheit: i believe since their is no API, the only way to do this
#6358 [22:47] <xales> would be with a mod
#6359 [22:47] <xales> the protocol does not support playerlisting or counting either, afaik
#6360 [22:47] <Wahrheit> ughhh
#6361 [22:47] <Wahrheit> @NOTCH: ADD API NOW
#6362 [22:48] <mbentley> ok, now i am having chunk loading issues
#6363 [22:48] <Wahrheit> "@summaxr: @notch API PLOX KTHX"
#6364 [22:48] <Stomper> I have 1.2gb of physical memory free..
#6365 [22:48] <Stomper> :/
#6366 [22:48] <mbentley> and i just feel off the world :(
#6367 [22:48] <Stomper> Oh no wait.
#6368 [22:48] <Stomper> Shit.
#6369 [22:48] <mbentley> *fell
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#6371 [22:49] <Stomper> It says I have 1.2 avaiable.
#6372 [22:49] <Stomper> But only .5 free.
#6373 [22:49] <Stomper> Crap.
#6374 [22:50] <dx> it seems my water ladders stopped working in beta, has anyone figured out how to fix them?
#6375 [22:50] <xales> dx: water ladders were a bug and it may have been fixed
#6376 [22:50] <mbentley> let's toss another shrimp on the barbie!
#6377 [22:50] <Stomper> How can I free up some more ram?
#6378 [22:50] <Kealper> ok back over to this chat... GreyVulpine idk, i've always heard McMyAdmin was good...and yea the one made by the insecure kid is MCAdmin
#6379 [22:50] <xales> Stomper: if the minecraft server is the only thing running, you can use something other than windows T_T
#6380 [22:51] <dx> oh well
#6381 [22:51] <Stomper> lol
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#6383 [22:51] <Stomper> apparently I have 92 processes running.
#6384 [22:51] <Stomper> :/
#6385 [22:51] <Kealper> man i am tired for some reason -.-
#6386 [22:51] <Kealper> Stomper: O.o
#6387 [22:51] <Stomper> ?
#6388 [22:52] <Kealper> 92 processes..are you on vista with like two users logged in to it at once or something right now? lol
#6389 [22:52] <Stomper> Noo.
#6390 [22:52] <Stomper> Just 1 windows 7 user.
#6391 [22:52] <Wahrheit> stomper
#6392 [22:52] <Stomper> Hey Grey, you still there?
#6393 [22:52] <Wahrheit> If you want
#6394 [22:52] <xales> Stomper: shut down any antivirus, firewall, etc
#6395 [22:52] <xales> anything with a tray icon thats not hardware related
#6396 [22:52] <xales> etc
#6397 [22:52] <Wahrheit> I can give you a link to a site where you can get a 2gb RAM + 2gb burst vps for 7/mo
#6398 [22:52] <Wahrheit> 7 USD/mo
#6399 [22:53] <Stomper> I don't want to pay for anything.
#6400 [22:53] <Stomper> I'm broke enough, as it is.
#6401 [22:54] <xales> Stomper: it doesnt look like youll be able to run a server then, without sacrificing use of your windows 7 computer
#6402 [22:54] <xales> :(
#6403 [22:54] <Stomper> Sacrificing?
#6404 [22:54] <xales> you wouldnt be able to use the computer
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#6406 [22:54] <xales> while the minecraft server was running
#6407 [22:55] <Stomper> damn.
#6408 [22:55] <xales> because anything you open would probably lag the minecraft server considerably
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#6411 [22:55] <Stomper> hmm,
#6412 [22:56] <Stomper> That's why I asked people in the forums a little while back to co-op host a server with me.. someone has told me they will, I just got to get another reply from them :/
#6413 [22:56] <Wahrheit> here's a new one for you
#6414 [22:56] <Wahrheit> After I edited my map with mcedit, there is BIG FUCKING HOLE by the spawn that goes forever and keeps you glitch falling from the same spot when you fall/jump in
#6415 [22:56] <xales> Wahrheit: disconnect and reconnect
#6416 [22:56] <Stomper> lol
#6417 [22:57] <Stomper> There seems to be no lag on my server for me.
#6418 [22:57] <mbentley> Wahrheit: i've seen that but it was just chunks not loading
#6419 [22:57] <Stomper> Someone try connect again..
#6420 [22:57] <mbentley> Stomper: what country are you in?
#6421 [22:58] <Wahrheit> No the other person sees it too
#6422 [22:58] <Stomper> Aus.
#6423 [22:58] <mbentley> oh well that could explain some lag
#6424 [22:58] <xales> thats probably why then
#6425 [22:58] <mbentley> i am in the US
#6426 [22:58] <mbentley> heh
#6427 [22:58] <Stomper> haha.
#6428 [22:58] <xales> me too :/
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#6430 [22:58] <Stomper> Try join, mb.
#6431 [22:58] <xales> Stomper: what is your internet connection speed, as well
#6432 [22:58] <Stomper> Just test it out.
#6433 [22:58] <Stomper> Ughh.. Lemme check
#6434 [22:59] <mbentley> i'm falling forever
#6435 [23:00] <xales> Stomper: unplayable amounts of lag :( blocks that i destroy keep reforming even after i have picked up the item spawned
#6436 [23:00] <xales> also, significant chat lag
#6437 [23:00] <Stomper> 12mb/ps.
#6438 [23:00] <mbentley> it's pretty laggy
#6439 [23:00] <Stomper> :(:(
#6440 [23:00] <xales> Stomper: is that down or up
#6441 [23:00] <Stomper> Down.
#6442 [23:00] <xales> upload is more important for a server
#6443 [23:00] <Stomper> oh
#6444 [23:00] <Stomper> uughhh
#6445 [23:00] <Stomper> Wow.
#6446 [23:00] <Stomper> .84mbps. >:(
#6447 [23:01] <xales> there is no way youll be able to run a server on that connection, sorry :(
#6448 [23:01] <Stomper> Fuuuuuuuck.
#6449 [23:01] <Stomper> I'm so pissed off right now.
#6450 [23:01] <Stomper> That's seriously, so gay.
#6451 [23:01] <xales> Stomper: home connections arent meant for running servers
#6452 [23:01] <xales> and most ISPs dont even allow it
#6453 [23:02] <Wahrheit> Stomper would you like my link?
#6454 [23:02] <xales> its against the TOS for most of them
#6455 [23:02] <Stomper> Wahrheit.
#6456 [23:02] <Stomper> What's the link for?
#6457 [23:02] <Wahrheit> sup
#6458 [23:02] <Wahrheit> 7/mo VPS
#6459 [23:02] <Wahrheit> 2gb ram
#6460 [23:02] <Wahrheit> 2gb burst
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#6462 [23:03] <Wahrheit> 7 USD mind you
#6463 [23:03] <nomadx> hey all, got a quick server related question
#6464 [23:03] <Wahrheit> not EUR or anything
#6465 [23:03] <Stomper> haha yeah.
#6466 [23:03] <Stomper> Ugghh.
#6467 [23:03] <Stomper> Nah, I think I'll just try looking around for a while.
#6468 [23:03] <Stomper> I might even become an "expert" on a server I regularly play on.
#6469 [23:04] <nomadx> the op.txt file, is there some sort of syntax you need to use, or do you just put your username in there
#6470 [23:04] <mbentley> just the username nomadx
#6471 [23:04] <mbentley> one per line
#6472 [23:05] <nomadx> Didn't seem to work for me
#6473 [23:05] <mbentley> did you restart your server?
#6474 [23:05] <nomadx> yeah
#6475 [23:05] <Wahrheit> Stomper that's the cheapest you'll find :p
#6476 [23:05] <mbentley> try 'op <username>' from the server console
#6477 [23:06] <Stomper> meh.
#6478 [23:06] <nomadx> how do you access the console?
#6479 [23:07] <nomadx> Maybe that's the problem heh, guess you cant do commands from chat?
#6480 [23:07] <mbentley> nomadx: only if you are an op or admin
#6481 [23:07] <mbentley> and you have to do '/<command>'
#6482 [23:07] <nomadx> (my server didn't come with a readme, just kind of putzing through this)
#6483 [23:07] <mbentley> like '/op mbentley'
#6484 [23:08] <nomadx> Yeah, did that. Didn't get any output or anything
#6485 [23:08] <nomadx> tried /solid to test it, didn't do anything
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#6487 [23:08] <mbentley> you have to do it from the server console
#6488 [23:08] <mbentley> not sure what /solid is
#6489 [23:08] <xales> nomadx: did you get the server from a provider, that provides a web interface to control your minecraft server?
#6490 [23:09] <mbentley> the server commands are: http://minecraft.mbentley.net/server_commands.txt
#6491 [23:09] <xales> mbentley: its what makes placed cobblestone act as cobblestone rather than adminuim
#6492 [23:09] <nomadx> Yeah, I got it from xenon servers
#6493 [23:09] <xales> :/
#6494 [23:09] <xales> nomadx: you probably dont have access to the console then
#6495 [23:09] <xales> if its only a minecraft server
#6496 [23:09] <mbentley> ah it's a mod
#6497 [23:09] <mbentley> oh well, night time for me :)
#6498 [23:09] <nomadx> so I can't do any op stuff on it then?
#6499 [23:09] <xales> nomadx: talk to xenon
#6500 [23:10] <xales> put in a support ticket with your problem
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#6502 [23:10] <nomadx> Alright
#6503 [23:10] * `` is now known as GLaDOS
#6504 [23:10] <xales> sup GLaDOS
#6505 [23:11] <GLaDOS> nothing much
#6506 [23:15] <Wahrheit> all is well in my server
#6507 [23:15] <Wahrheit> got a sweet set of floating islands above the clouds near the spawn
#6508 [23:15] <Wahrheit> and some cliffs with water below
#6509 [23:15] <xales> Wahrheit: :)
#6510 [23:16] <Stomper> Wahreit, looking for someone to help moderate your server? lol.
#6511 [23:16] <Stomper> Wahrheit**
#6512 [23:20] <Wahrheit> Sure
#6513 [23:20] <Wahrheit> Prove yourself in the server and on the site and we'll talk :)
#6514 [23:20] <Wahrheit> probably won't add any ops until hmod is updated though
#6515 [23:27] <Yossi> Ugh! There is NO other way to obtain frickin string other than dungeons (whatever that is) and spider slaying?
#6516 [23:27] <Yossi> I have wool for chrissake! Wool is made of string!
#6517 [23:27] <Kealper> xD
#6518 [23:28] <OliverHunter> What server?
#6519 [23:28] * OliverHunter doesn't know SMP servers well.
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#6520 [23:28] <Crazy> oh my
#6521 [23:28] <Crazy> lord
#6522 [23:28] <OliverHunter> wb NP/Crazy
#6523 [23:28] <Crazy> Hello
#6524 [23:28] <Crazy> this is a huge pain in the ass
#6525 [23:30] <Stomper> I just submitted an application, type, thing to someones thread.. They're looking for a server partner.. so hopefully they'll pick me :D
#6526 [23:31] <Crazy> garg
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#6528 [23:33] <Crazy> I still don't get the Port forward thing
#6529 [23:33] <xales> Crazy: portforward.com
#6530 [23:33] <Crazy> I know Keal gave me the link and everything
#6531 [23:33] <Crazy> I am just staring at it
#6532 [23:33] <Yossi> Is there a reliable way to herd animals?
#6533 [23:33] <Crazy> going wtf sauce O_O
#6534 [23:34] <Crazy> Water?
#6535 [23:34] <xales> Yossi: no
#6536 [23:34] <xales> not fully at least
#6537 [23:34] <Yossi> Perhaps reliable was too strong a term. Are there methods that only make me *kind* of hate notch?
#6538 [23:35] <xales> water
#6539 [23:35] <xales> look on wiki for mob traps
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#6544 [23:39] <Wahrheit> I made a waterfall below my house :D
#6545 [23:39] <Wahrheit> Jump off the top deck, ride to the bottom!
#6546 [23:39] <Crazy> I am considering making the portal
#6547 [23:39] <Crazy> how does one do that?
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#6549 [23:39] <Stomper> Omfg, The Nether is soooo annnoying.
#6550 [23:40] <Crazy> what do you set on fire?
#6551 [23:40] <xales> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Portal
#6552 [23:41] * [Husky]Shnaw|AFK is now known as [Husky]Shnaw
#6553 [23:43] <Zircon_X> Are minecarts useful
#6554 [23:43] <Zircon_X> or just cool
#6555 [23:43] <xales> useful
#6556 [23:43] <xales> and cool
#6557 [23:44] <Zircon_X> Do you like put stuff in them
#6558 [23:44] <Zircon_X> and ride them back to the base or?
#6559 [23:44] <Crazy> you put you in a mine cart
#6560 [23:44] <Stomper> sorta.
#6561 [23:44] <Crazy> or a chest
#6562 [23:44] <Crazy> or a furnace I think
#6563 [23:44] <xales> Zircon_X: you can use em to transport goods, or yourself
#6564 [23:44] <xales> they seem more useful in multiplayer, as far as storage carts go
#6565 [23:45] <xales> but, they still serve a function
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#6572 [23:54] <nomadx> alright, I got a new question
#6573 [23:55] <xales> nomadx: go ahead
#6574 [23:55] <nomadx> Tried installing hmod through xenon's automatic mod installer, says it was installed but was unable to connect after I restarted the server
#6575 [23:56] <xales> nomadx: I can't help you with xenon's systems, I dont know how they work :(
#6576 [23:56] <xales> you should put in a support ticket
#6577 [23:56] <nomadx> heh, yeah I figured as much
#6578 [23:56] <xales> :) good luck
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#6580 [23:57] <Stomper> Xales.
#6581 [23:57] <xales> ?
#6582 [23:57] <Stomper> I'm trying to run the server on another computer, and I was able to connect using "192.168.2.6"
#6583 [23:57] <Stomper> would you be able to try connect if I give you the other IP?
#6584 [23:58] <xales> Stomper: it wont change the problem with your internet connection
#6585 [23:58] <Stomper> But still,
#6586 [23:58] <xales> also, im on my laptop now, it cant run minecraft :(
#6587 [23:58] <Stomper> Can you just try?
#6588 [23:58] <Stomper> aww ok.
#6589 [23:58] <Stomper> Well can someone try connect to 118.210.164.243 ?
#6590 [23:58] <xales> have the bot try
#6591 [23:59] <xales> !check 118.210.164.243
#6592 [23:59] <xales> or whatever that was
#6593 [23:59] <Stomper> oh yeah.. forgot.
#6594 [23:59] <Stomper> grr.
#6595 [23:59] <Stomper> hold on.
#6596 [23:59] <xales> AuBot: aww, no need to apologize. its not your fault, nor is it my server
#6597 [23:59] <xales> lol