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#2 [00:00] <Stomper> Hahaha.
#3 [00:00] <Stomper> :/
#4 [00:00] <Stomper> !check 118.210.164.243
#5 [00:01] <Stomper> uuughh.
#6 [00:01] <Stomper> Oh.. Yay!
#7 [00:01] <Stomper> :D
#8 [00:02] <Stomper> But can someone actually, join? I want to see how laggy it is for everyone?
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#11 [00:04] <xales> Stomper: the lag is because of your network connection
#12 [00:04] <xales> it will be just as laggy as it was before
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#15 [00:06] <Stomper> I know, I knnow.
#16 [00:07] <Stomper> But still.
#17 [00:07] <Stomper> What is the recommended upload speed?
#18 [00:07] <xales> ideally
#19 [00:07] <xales> at least 20mbps
#20 [00:07] <xales> most servers have 100mbps
#21 [00:07] <Zircon_X> I have tons of stone
#22 [00:07] <Zircon_X> What do I do with it
#23 [00:07] <xales> Zircon_X: lava
#24 [00:07] <Zircon_X> I haven't found any :[
#25 [00:07] <Zircon_X> Guess I should go find some then
#26 [00:07] <xales> Zircon_X: Dig deeper
#27 [00:08] <Zircon_X> I've hit bedrock
#28 [00:08] <Zircon_X> In several places
#29 [00:08] <Zircon_X> oh well time to keep digging
#30 [00:08] <xales> dig outward
#31 [00:08] <xales> im surprised you havent found it digging straight down
#32 [00:08] <xales> many cave systems lead to lava too
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#34 [00:12] <Kuluku> Good Evening, I'm having an issue. On a SMP server, at random intervals, my screen goes completely black without an error message. It could be in 10 mins or in 1 hour. Any ideas?
#35 [00:12] <xales> Kuluku: update graphics card drivers?
#36 [00:12] <xales> is it just that server, or all of them
#37 [00:13] <Kuluku> Graphic card is updated, it's just me, not my friends on the same server
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#39 [00:13] <Kuluku> my friends say I'm still logged in the game until I tank manager and kill the game
#40 [00:13] <xales> Kuluku: what about other servers?
#41 [00:13] <Super_kaboby> d
#42 [00:14] <Super_kaboby> when ever i join my friends server u lag really bad and only load a very small part of the map anyone know whyy?
#43 [00:14] <Super_kaboby> i lag really bad**
#44 [00:14] <Kuluku> I only play on one server, my own
#45 [00:14] <Super_kaboby> :/
#46 [00:15] <Super_kaboby> i heard Vista has a problem runing the game or somthing you hear that?
#47 [00:15] <xales> Super_kaboby: it could be a problem with your computer or the server
#48 [00:15] <xales> does anyone else on the server have the same problem?
#49 [00:15] <Kuluku> no
#50 [00:16] <Kuluku> Just me
#51 [00:16] <xales> Kuluku: try joining another server
#52 [00:16] <xales> Kuluku: that was to Super_kaboby
#53 [00:16] <Super_kaboby> its only use who try and we use Hamachi
#54 [00:16] <Super_kaboby> us**
#55 [00:16] <Super_kaboby> how do we fix that error that says not enough ram and it says cant keep up
#56 [00:17] <Super_kaboby> i think that might have to do with it
#57 [00:17] <xales> Super_kaboby: not enough ram means the computer running the server cant handle running a server
#58 [00:17] <xales> and the cant keep up is normal
#59 [00:17] <xales> also, hamachi is probably the problem. hamachi is probably too slow
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#61 [00:17] <Super_kaboby> but my PC has 4 gigs of ram plus it uses a flashdrive with another 4 gigs
#62 [00:18] <xales> Super_kaboby: its not your PC in question, it is the computer running the server
#63 [00:18] <Super_kaboby> i get the rror as well though
#64 [00:18] <xales> which is either not capable of running a server or not configured properly
#65 [00:18] <xales> Super_kaboby: yes, because you are connecting to the server
#66 [00:19] <Super_kaboby> i see
#67 [00:19] <Stomper> Xales...
#68 [00:19] <xales> ?
#69 [00:19] <Stomper> Is it possible to host a classic server?
#70 [00:19] <Stomper> Or is it the same deal?
#71 [00:19] <Super_kaboby> we have to use hamachi because we are both through routers and have to use hamachi otherwise we cant even connectr
#72 [00:19] <xales> Stomper: same deal
#73 [00:19] <xales> Super_kaboby: portforward.com
#74 [00:20] <Stomper> Grrrr. :/
#75 [00:20] <Super_kaboby> ok
#76 [00:20] <Super_kaboby> and how to i launch with java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#77 [00:20] <Super_kaboby> [INFO] Loading properties
#78 [00:20] <xales> Super_kaboby: that is when you run the server in Linux. If you use windows you do not do that
#79 [00:21] <xales> if you get that error, there is not enough free RAM on the server
#80 [00:21] <Super_kaboby> Ohhh ok
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#82 [00:22] <megadud> hi
#83 [00:22] <Super_kaboby> what port ould i open
#84 [00:22] <xales> hello
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#86 [00:22] <xales> Super_kaboby: the port the server is set to use
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#88 [00:22] <Super_kaboby> so default 25565?
#89 [00:22] <xales> yes
#90 [00:23] <megadud> lets assume for a moment that i made a big wall of water, with buckets... and then realized i didnt want it. what should i do?
#91 [00:24] <xales> megadud: you can pour lava on it
#92 [00:24] <xales> and it will turn into cobblestone
#93 [00:24] <megadud> ahh... didnt think of that...
#94 [00:24] <xales> pour lava such that it flows over the lava fall
#95 [00:24] <megadud> makes sense...
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#100 [00:36] <cptsmithy> Howdy. Does anyone know how long, on average, it takes to receive a gift code? I'm looking at 5 hours at the moment.
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#102 [00:36] <Yossi> You bought it for...nevermind!
#103 [00:36] <xales> that was fast
#104 [00:36] <xales> yeah ill just pop in ask my question, wait less than a minute for an answer
#105 [00:37] <Yossi> Are the stars always the same or are they random every night?
#106 [00:37] * Kirdog is now known as Kirdog|Disabled
#107 [00:37] <Yossi> and does the sun/moon follow the same path or are there seasons?
#108 [00:39] <megadud> the lava went through the water. it didnt cobblestone...
#109 [00:40] <xales> Yossi: same I think
#110 [00:40] <xales> and same path
#111 [00:40] <xales> megadud: O_o
#112 [00:40] <xales> thats not supposed to happen
#113 [00:41] <megadud> yeah... well... im gonna mess around and see if i get lucky somehow...
#114 [00:41] <megadud> wish me luck!
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#118 [00:57] <Yossi> Who killed enough spiders to get enough string for a bow? Me! That's who! Fuck yeah, me!
#119 [00:57] <xales> lol
#120 [00:57] <Yossi> Pity the bf, who has to hear this cackling live.
#121 [00:58] <Yossi> Also you have to love a game that allows me to ask, in all seriousness: Does glass obey gravity?
#122 [00:59] <xales> lol
#123 [00:59] <xales> it does not
#124 [00:59] <Yossi> Floating glass house? I THINK I WILL
#125 [01:00] <kontroll> Only gravel and sand obey gravity... and you can whip sand into submission.
#126 [01:00] <kontroll> Which leaves gravel. Nobody likes gravel.
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#131 [01:09] <Yossi> Seriously. Fuck gravel.
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#137 [01:13] <Wahrheit> So I spawned some glowstone
#138 [01:13] <Wahrheit> Why is it not glowing this shit all up over everywhere
#139 [01:13] <Wahrheit> when I place it
#140 [01:14] <xales> it gives off a small amount of light
#141 [01:14] <xales> not as much as a torch
#142 [01:14] <Wahrheit> I heard it was 15
#143 [01:14] <Wahrheit> more than a torch
#144 [01:14] <xales> O_o
#145 [01:14] <Wahrheit> Glowstone has a luminance of 15, which is the same as sunlight and one more than torches.
#146 [01:14] <xales> i dunno then
#147 [01:17] <Wahrheit> glowstone is lame
#148 [01:18] <Wahrheit> I expected it to be all
#149 [01:18] <Wahrheit> glowing
#150 [01:18] <xales> it is the full block
#151 [01:18] <xales> correct?
#152 [01:19] <Wahrheit> yes lol
#153 [01:19] <Wahrheit> A whole like 5x4 of them
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#155 [01:21] <xales> :(
#156 [01:21] <xales> the light may not be additive like it is with torches
#157 [01:25] <Count> ok, I have a question
#158 [01:25] <Count> I have two doors, side by side
#159 [01:25] <Count> they're oriented to match or w/e you want to call it
#160 [01:25] <Count> I have a stone button next to one door
#161 [01:25] <Count> and then redstone on the floor in front of the two doors
#162 [01:26] <Count> when I hit the stone button, both doors open
#163 [01:26] <Count> when the button deactivates, only one door closes
#164 [01:26] <Count> so, is that a bug, or do I just not know what I'm doing with circuits?
#165 [01:26] <xales> bug
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#171 [01:39] <Roversword> hi all
#172 [01:40] <xales> hello
#173 [01:41] <Roversword> short question about nethergate/netherworld in multiplayer...making a gate is possible, but crossing over not, is that correct?
#174 [01:41] <Roversword> (as of 1.1_02 beta)
#175 [01:41] <xales> yes
#176 [01:45] <Roversword> thanks a lot
#177 [01:45] <xales> np
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#189 [02:17] <Count> I wish we could refine wool into string
#190 [02:17] <xales> that makes it too easy
#191 [02:18] <CruelNoise> g'night xales
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#194 [02:23] <Zircon_X> I have a chicken in my mine
#195 [02:23] <Zircon_X> It is now trapped! Buahaha
#196 [02:23] <aposyndesian> haha
#197 [02:23] <Zircon_X> I wonder if I should set a stream up under it so it constantly swims
#198 [02:23] <Zircon_X> and when it drops an egg it collects in a pool
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#201 [02:23] <Zircon_X> Good idea? Y/N
#202 [02:24] <aposyndesian> good idea
#203 [02:25] <Wahrheit> Okay so sometimes I'll be walking around and all of a sudden HOLY FUCK THAT HOLE GOES ALL THE WAY TO BEDROCK BUT THERE IS NO BEDROCK
#204 [02:26] <Wahrheit> and when you get to close it kind of glitches you and you can't move until you place a block below you
#205 [02:26] <Wahrheit> But it goes away when you disconnect and reconnect
#206 [02:26] <Wahrheit> known glitch?
#207 [02:26] <xales> yes
#208 [02:26] <Wahrheit> and I fixed it right?
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#214 [02:43] <Zircon_X> How long do dropped items staybefore they disappear?
#215 [02:43] <xales> bout 5 mins, i dunno
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#222 [03:10] <Zircon_X> ARe mushrooms good for anything?
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#224 [03:12] <barrycarlyon> Mushroom soup.
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#234 [04:00] <buddy1987> hey is there someone who can help me?
#235 [04:00] <lemon-rev> whats up
#236 [04:00] <buddy1987> I am having an issue with building my server
#237 [04:00] <lemon-rev> building your server ?
#238 [04:00] <lemon-rev> you running jar ? or the exe
#239 [04:00] <buddy1987> I am wanting to build a server for classic multiplayer
#240 [04:01] <buddy1987> exe
#241 [04:01] <lemon-rev> oh, youll have to wait for someone else i know nothing of it
#242 [04:01] <buddy1987> ah ok..
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#248 [04:13] <Count> Roversword, yes, as far as I know
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#250 [04:17] <ofunknown> Hey
#251 [04:17] <buddy1987> hey...
#252 [04:17] <ofunknown> Is it possible that
#253 [04:17] <ofunknown> you can
#254 [04:17] <ofunknown> join a chat of an SMP server
#255 [04:17] <ofunknown> but not actually join the game
#256 [04:17] <buddy1987> do any of you know about creating servers?
#257 [04:17] <ofunknown> Or is there a 3rd party software
#258 [04:17] <ofunknown> to do so
#259 [04:18] <buddy1987> minecraft servers that is
#260 [04:18] <ofunknown> Buddy
#261 [04:18] <ofunknown> SMP or Creative?
#262 [04:19] <ofunknown> Actually it's pretty much the same thing
#263 [04:19] <ofunknown> for both
#264 [04:19] <buddy1987> for the game
#265 [04:19] <ofunknown> Basically
#266 [04:19] <ofunknown> Download the server software which you can find on
#267 [04:19] <ofunknown> minecraft.net
#268 [04:19] <ofunknown> Then read about port forwarding
#269 [04:19] <ofunknown> Activate the server software
#270 [04:19] <ofunknown> Then voila
#271 [04:20] <buddy1987> ah ok...
#272 [04:20] <ofunknown> Then you give your IP to your friends etc
#273 [04:20] <ofunknown> If it's SMP
#274 [04:20] <ofunknown> Or tell them to find
#275 [04:20] <ofunknown> your server on creative list
#276 [04:20] <ofunknown> of it's creative
#277 [04:20] <ofunknown> There are threads everywhere on the forums
#278 [04:20] <buddy1987> ok the exe server should put me in the list correct?
#279 [04:21] <buddy1987> going to check the forums :)
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#286 [04:40] <Kealper> Mmrawr~
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#290 [04:45] <Khalimba> Hello Hello
#291 [04:45] <Kealper> ell
#292 [04:45] <Kealper> ello
#293 [04:45] <Khalimba> So
#294 [04:45] <Khalimba> Any idea how i
#295 [04:46] <Khalimba> Host a server?
#296 [04:46] <Khalimba> I have the Beta Client
#297 [04:46] <lemon-rev> grab the minecraft server run it, and get your ip and your off
#298 [04:46] <Khalimba> And Tunngle
#299 [04:46] <Kealper> i have quite a few ideas about that...what part are you getting stuck at?
#300 [04:46] <Khalimba> Yeah but is that a survival server?
#301 [04:46] <Khalimba> I dont want those shit server things
#302 [04:46] <Zenreich> Pay $40 a month for a dedicated VPS with atleast 1-2GB of RAM, launch the server with nogui
#303 [04:46] <Khalimba> Where you build without gathering
#304 [04:47] <Kealper> !server
#305 [04:47] <Khalimba> Yeah well
#306 [04:48] <Khalimba> So
#307 [04:48] <Khalimba> I started the server exe
#308 [04:48] <Khalimba> What the fuck now.
#309 [04:48] <lemon-rev> get your ip and get a friend or your self to test to see if you can log into it
#310 [04:48] <Kealper> well...if the server exe is running....now you've got to forward port 25565 to your computer
#311 [04:48] <Khalimba> Oh cool sounds simple enough
#312 [04:48] <Khalimba> Allthough
#313 [04:48] <Khalimba> I have no idea how
#314 [04:49] <Khalimba> I'm really a noob at this.
#315 [04:49] <Khalimba> And when i say really
#316 [04:49] <Khalimba> I mean
#317 [04:49] <Kealper> what's your router model?
#318 [04:49] <Khalimba> REALLY.
#319 [04:49] <Khalimba> I have some Hercules modem
#320 [04:49] <Zenreich> Router, not mode
#321 [04:49] <Zenreich> m
#322 [04:49] <Kealper> exact model?
#323 [04:50] <Khalimba> http://www.hercules.com/nl/wifi/bdd/p/34/hercules-modem-routeur-wifi-adsl2-2-hwgadsl2p-54v2-/
#324 [04:50] <Kealper> well...that is rather unfortunate
#325 [04:51] <Khalimba> It sure is
#326 [04:51] <Kealper> portforward doesn't have forwarding instructions for that brand of routers
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#328 [04:51] <Khalimba> That sure is a problem.
#329 [04:51] <Zenreich> But is it a router, or a modem? <_>
#330 [04:52] <Khalimba> Whats the difference.
#331 [04:52] <Kealper> appears to be a moden/wireless router combo
#332 [04:52] <Khalimba> Aye
#333 [04:52] <Khalimba> Thats what the site says
#334 [04:52] <Zenreich> Hrm.
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#336 [04:53] <Kealper> which is weird that it's not on portforward because i've heard of Hercules products before...
#337 [04:53] <Khalimba> They're pretty good O_O
#338 [04:53] <Kealper> alrighty then; time for the blind to walk the blind!
#339 [04:53] <Kealper> open a cmd window
#340 [04:53] <Khalimba> Ok.
#341 [04:54] <Khalimba> Now what
#342 [04:54] <Kealper> type ipconfig
#343 [04:54] <Kealper> press enter
#344 [04:54] <Khalimba> Good
#345 [04:54] <Khalimba> And after that?
#346 [04:54] <Kealper> on the first adapter that shows up, what does the Default Gateway say?
#347 [04:55] <Khalimba> The very first one
#348 [04:55] <Khalimba> Is
#349 [04:55] <Khalimba> Ethernet addapter - Tunngle
#350 [04:55] <Kealper> alrighty, not that one....second one down
#351 [04:55] <Kealper> it will probably be called Local Area Connection
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#353 [04:55] <Khalimba> Nope O_O
#354 [04:56] <Kealper> o.o
#355 [04:56] <Kealper> is there a huge list of them?
#356 [04:56] <Khalimba> Yes
#357 [04:56] <Khalimba> About
#358 [04:56] <Khalimba> 15
#359 [04:56] <Kealper> oh my....
#360 [04:56] <Khalimba> I dont know how to PC.
#361 [04:56] <Kealper> is there any called Local Area Connection?
#362 [04:56] <Khalimba> Inb4 thats the reason why my PC is shit slow
#363 [04:57] <Kealper> network adapters don't slow down pcs lol
#364 [04:57] <Khalimba> And
#365 [04:57] <Khalimba> There is not.
#366 [04:57] <Khalimba> I think
#367 [04:57] <Khalimba> I might have changed it with tunngle
#368 [04:57] <Khalimba> When i DLed it
#369 [04:57] * Kealper goes to see exactly what Tunngle is, although i have an idea already
#369 [04:58] <Kealper> yea, figured it was that
#370 [04:58] <Khalimba> Am i fucked?
#371 [04:58] <Kealper> ok then just go to http://192.168.1.1
#372 [04:58] <Khalimba> Allright
#373 [04:59] <Kealper> did that come up asking for a password?
#374 [04:59] <Khalimba> Yush
#375 [04:59] <Khalimba> Sec
#376 [04:59] <Khalimba> I know the pass
#377 [04:59] <Khalimba> But
#378 [04:59] <Khalimba> Let me find it
#379 [05:00] <Khalimba> It does not seem to be working
#380 [05:00] <Khalimba> D:
#381 [05:00] <Khalimba> Wait.
#382 [05:01] <Kealper> did you change the password from it's default?
#383 [05:02] <Khalimba> Aye
#384 [05:02] <Kealper> oh...
#385 [05:02] <Khalimba> Meh
#386 [05:02] <Khalimba> I'll have to find it
#387 [05:02] <Khalimba> So
#388 [05:03] <Khalimba> This will take a moment
#389 [05:03] <Kealper> alright then
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#394 [05:09] <Zenreich> Khalimba, just fyi, most servers still run Alpha cause of Beta being so riddled with bugs
#395 [05:10] <Kealper> oh joy...and email from senator_leven@levin.senate.gov
#396 [05:10] <shikohadou> hiya guys, im getting 1-5 fps in multi, and in single i get 120ish fps any tips to help me get a better connection or something>?
#397 [05:10] <Zenreich> shikohadou, first, speedtest.net
#398 [05:10] <Zenreich> Give us the results
#399 [05:10] <Kealper> shikohadou: how long have you tested said 5 fps on multiplayer?
#400 [05:11] <shikohadou> yeah
#401 [05:11] <shikohadou> a long time
#402 [05:11] <Kealper> did you just notice you had a low framerate and instantly come here? or is it constant (like after 5 min of play)
#403 [05:11] <Zenreich> shikohadou, have you tried other servers?
#404 [05:11] <Khalimba> I gave up
#405 [05:11] <Khalimba> :P
#406 [05:11] <Khalimba> MY GOD
#407 [05:11] <shikohadou> if i change my setting "protey thingy" so it has more ram to it gets bettert but theres lag
#408 [05:11] <Khalimba> What the fuck is that.
#409 [05:11] <Zenreich> Khalimba, wot
#410 [05:11] <Khalimba> That
#411 [05:11] <shikohadou> zen http://www.speedtest.net/result/1083182383.png
#412 [05:11] <Khalimba> Demonspawn
#413 [05:11] <Khalimba> Also
#414 [05:12] <Khalimba> I cant close MC server . exe?
#415 [05:12] <Zenreich> shikohadou, a) Have you tried other servers, b) Have you waited a good 10 minutes or so? Servers lag like a bitch when you first join.
#416 [05:12] <Zenreich> Khalimba, kill the process
#417 [05:12] <shikohadou> a) no due to the server updates no one has even tryed ot update there servers
#418 [05:12] <Kealper> shikohadou: to make sure all the bases are covered, can you try joining mc.kealper.com
#419 [05:12] <Zenreich> shikohadou, you're playing Beta then?
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#421 [05:12] <Khalimba> Ok.
#422 [05:13] <Zenreich> It could be an issue with Beta SMP
#423 [05:13] <shikohadou> and B) i wait about a hour it gets a little better still lag and fps sucks
#424 [05:13] <shikohadou> iv got fully updated clinet
#425 [05:13] <Zenreich> Khalimba, offer's still open <_>
#426 [05:13] <shikohadou> keaper that a server?
#427 [05:13] <shikohadou> kealper^
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#429 [05:13] <Kealper> yes put it in the same spot as you would an ip
#430 [05:13] <shikohadou> kk
#431 [05:13] <shikohadou> give me a min
#432 [05:14] <shikohadou> kealper getting 2-9 fps atm
#433 [05:14] <shikohadou> when logged in
#434 [05:14] <Kealper> give it a few to load the map
#435 [05:15] <Khalimba> Aye, thanks Zen
#436 [05:15] <Khalimba> But
#437 [05:15] <Khalimba> My friend cba downloading it
#438 [05:15] <Zenreich> <_> Takes ten minutes
#439 [05:15] <Khalimba> And i cba going without him
#440 [05:15] <Khalimba> Ok relink please
#441 [05:15] <Khalimba> i'mm
#442 [05:15] <Khalimba> I'll*
#443 [05:15] <Khalimba> Make him O_O
#444 [05:16] <Kealper> relink what?
#445 [05:17] <Zenreich> Kealper, less than legimate Alpha client
#446 [05:17] <Zenreich> legitimate*
#447 [05:17] <Zenreich> :3 comes with a minimap
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#453 [05:29] <Vaegir> Any chance the processing problem will be solved today? I bought yesterday afternoon
#454 [05:29] <Vaegir> Still awaiting
#455 [05:29] <Kealper> processing issues still seem to be around :/
#456 [05:30] <lemon-rev> look processing issue well yes i have them too but i dont really care since server and minecraft togeather takes up full 2 gig of ram and lol well it still works
#457 [05:30] <lemon-rev> thats all i care for atm
#458 [05:30] <lemon-rev> but yes still want it fixed but presently all good :P
#459 [05:31] <Vaegir> running a server on your own PC?
#460 [05:31] <lemon-rev> yes
#461 [05:32] <shikohadou> ok thanks kealper for the help ^_^
#462 [05:32] <Vaegir> Why would you waste your resources? Plus,I dont think running a server from home has the optimal results.
#463 [05:32] <Kealper> shikohadou: want to try out that server jar?
#464 [05:32] <Vaegir> (Dontknow about minecraft)
#465 [05:32] <shikohadou> yeah how do i change the settings of it to use less ram?
#466 [05:33] <Kealper> Vaegir: that depends solely on your computing resources and internet connection lol
#467 [05:33] <Kealper> !server
#468 [05:33] <shikohadou> atm im a ethernet connection
#469 [05:33] <Kealper> download that .jar file first
#470 [05:33] <shikohadou> k give me a min, most of the time im a wireless network
#471 [05:34] <Vaegir> True Kealper,I have hosted from home for other game namely for 8-16 people.Lag didnt stop.
#472 [05:34] <Vaegir> Maybe its my computer,who knows.
#473 [05:35] <Zenreich> Vaegir, I frequently play as Nords and rape you from behind~
#474 [05:35] <shikohadou> ok downloaded the jar
#475 [05:35] <Kealper> i used to run a 25 slot classic server from my house, had no complaints while it was full, and it was full quite a lot
#476 [05:35] <Kealper> shikohadou: ok now, first...
#477 [05:35] <Kealper> open a cmd window and type java -version
#478 [05:35] <Vaegir> Hahah Zenreich,send salutations to your poor king Ragnar.
#479 [05:36] <Kealper> the version it says is irrelevant, it's just to test if you have that in your path var
#480 [05:36] <shikohadou> build 1.60_23-b05
#481 [05:36] <shikohadou> do you need the hotspot version?
#482 [05:36] <Kealper> ok, awesome...that will make this 10x easier to work with
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#484 [05:37] <Kealper> yea it did not really matter what version it was, it was just to see if you could use "java" to run java.exe
#485 [05:37] <Kealper> ok now, place the server whereever you want it to remain
#486 [05:37] <shikohadou> kk done that
#487 [05:37] <Kealper> make a new txt file in that folder
#488 [05:38] <shikohadou> done
#489 [05:38] <Kealper> open it up in Notepad
#490 [05:38] <Kealper> inside it put:
#491 [05:38] <shikohadou> done >_.;
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#493 [05:38] <shikohadou> oh textfile should be called?
#494 [05:38] <Kealper> java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#495 [05:39] <Kealper> the name does not matter, but make sure you save it as a .bat file
#496 [05:39] <Vaegir> Still,I noticed my server renter is hosting Minecraft servers though a bit expensive..
#497 [05:39] <shikohadou> k made the bat file
#498 [05:39] <Zenreich> Hrm
#499 [05:39] <Meowzu> ... i ordered a Giftcode for minecraft !! yesterday !! afternoon and i still havent recieved the code? Oo
#500 [05:39] <Kealper> alright, when you run that, it should launch the server, but only allocating half the normal ram
#501 [05:39] <Zenreich> Meowzu, check your profil
#502 [05:39] <Zenreich> e
#503 [05:40] <Vaegir> Meowzu,I bought the game yesterday.Same thing.
#504 [05:40] <Kealper> Meowzu: still having issues with payments
#505 [05:40] <shikohadou> to chnage how much ram it uses, do i change the two values?
#506 [05:40] <shikohadou> -xmx512m?
#507 [05:40] <Kealper> shikohadou: yes, those are the in MB, and 512 should be fine based on your ram usage with minecraft open
#508 [05:41] <shikohadou> mmmm.....how long would you say it takes a server to load
#509 [05:41] <Kealper> depends on the computer...mine has everything loaded in a few sec
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#511 [05:41] <Kealper> is it still preparing the spawn area?
#512 [05:41] <shikohadou> oh spomehting else if im a connection with hamachi and use the lan ip address 127.0.0.1 will people on hamachi be able to connect?
#513 [05:41] <shikohadou> havent run it yet
#514 [05:42] <Kealper> yes, they just use your hamachi address
#515 [05:42] <Kealper> oh..
#516 [05:42] <shikohadou> ok
#517 [05:43] <shikohadou> running lol
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#519 [05:43] <shikohadou> "[WARNING] **** NOT ENOUGH RAM!"
#520 [05:43] <Kealper> yea, it doesn't like anything less than 1024mb of ram, ignore that
#521 [05:43] <shikohadou> kk
#522 [05:46] <shikohadou> should i wait until the chucks finish?
#523 [05:46] <Kealper> yes, it will probably be low fps until it finishes loading
#524 [05:46] <Kealper> how much ram are you using right now?
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#526 [05:46] <shikohadou> ok it currentluy on 2-8 atm
#527 [05:47] <shikohadou> 1.35gb lol]
#528 [05:47] <shikohadou> going for a ciggy ill check in a min
#529 [05:47] <Kealper> alright
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#535 [05:50] <buddy1987> hey... I have a question about creating servers
#536 [05:50] <Kealper> i may have an answer
#537 [05:51] <buddy1987> ok I am trying to start a Classic Multiplayer server....
#538 [05:52] <buddy1987> whenever I try to connect to my server I get this message... Disconnecting /192.168.0.4:52987: Protocol error on nine lines followed by this message... /192.168.0.4:52987 lost connection
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#540 [05:52] <Kealper> are you trying to connect with the beta client?
#541 [05:52] <Kealper> or are you using the link that the server provides for you to play in the browser?
#542 [05:53] <buddy1987> no, I was just trying to run a server for me and my friends...
#543 [05:53] <Neckblaze> Hi, is this channel also for purchasing help? :D
#544 [05:53] <buddy1987> the server doesn't give me a link...
#545 [05:53] <Kealper> Neckblaze: paid, but have not got it yet?
#546 [05:53] <Neckblaze> Correct :D
#547 [05:53] <Kealper> buddy1987: uhh...are you sure it's the classic server? lol
#548 [05:53] <buddy1987> I got Mindcraft server.exe
#549 [05:54] <Vaegir> Same thing Neckblaze,paid but no processing yet
#550 [05:54] <Kealper> Neckblaze: yeah....uhh....still having issues with payment notification
#551 [05:54] <Kealper> !premium
#552 [05:54] <Kealper> buddy1987: that isn't the classic server, that's the beta server
#553 [05:54] <Neckblaze> Oh, okay. Thanks for the info, I just wait then. :)
#554 [05:54] <buddy1987> where do I get the Classic server?
#555 [05:54] <Kealper> i'll get you a link, 1 sec
#556 [05:55] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip
#557 [05:55] <buddy1987> k... I have tried using that one.. but never can get in on that either...
#558 [05:55] <buddy1987> when I download that, how many things are supposed to come in the zip file?
#559 [05:55] <Kealper> idk, lemme download it and set it up...it's been ages since i've ran a classic server
#560 [05:55] <buddy1987> k
#561 [05:56] <Kealper> there should be 3 files in it
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#563 [05:56] <Kealper> minecraft-server.jar, readme.txt, and start server.bat
#564 [05:57] <buddy1987> whenever I try to click the mindcraft-server.jar I get this message...
#565 [05:57] <Kealper> try running start server.bat instead of that .jar
#566 [05:58] <buddy1987> it pops up with a cmd window and disappears real fast
#567 [05:58] <Kealper> ok, that means you probably don't have java set up in your path var....
#568 [05:58] <Kealper> just to make sure
#569 [05:58] <Kealper> open a cmd window and type java -version
#570 [05:58] <Kealper> it should tell you your java version
#571 [05:59] <buddy1987> it is not recognized as an internal or external command,operable program or batch file
#572 [06:00] <Kealper> ok, go to http://java.com and install the latest java, that usually sets up the path variable for you
#573 [06:00] <buddy1987> k...
#574 [06:00] <Kealper> if it doesn't, then i'll just walk you through doing that manually
#575 [06:00] <buddy1987> k brb
#576 [06:01] <buddy1987> ok, I do have the latest version and update 23 already...
#577 [06:01] <buddy1987> message that came up when clicking download on java
#578 [06:01] <Kealper> will it let you just reinstall it?
#579 [06:02] <buddy1987> I will try an uninstall and reinstall real quick
#580 [06:02] <Kealper> well..
#581 [06:02] <Kealper> it would probably just be easier for me to tell you how to set up the path var
#582 [06:02] <buddy1987> k
#583 [06:02] <Kealper> first off, os?
#584 [06:03] <buddy1987> win 7
#585 [06:03] <Kealper> ok, click on your start menu, and type: enviroment
#586 [06:03] <Kealper> first one in the search results should be enviroment variables
#587 [06:04] <Kealper> "Edit enviroment variables for your account"
#588 [06:04] <buddy1987> ok how do I do that
#589 [06:04] <Kealper> you are at the Enviroment Variables window?
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#591 [06:04] <buddy1987> ya
#592 [06:05] <Kealper> ok, see the first variable in the list, in the top section?
#593 [06:05] <Kealper> it should be called "path"
#594 [06:05] <Kealper> double click that
#595 [06:05] <buddy1987> it says variable-temp and value... a string
#596 [06:06] <Kealper> there is nothing called path in there?
#597 [06:06] <buddy1987> no
#598 [06:06] <buddy1987> there is one in the system variables down bottom
#599 [06:06] <buddy1987> but not up top
#600 [06:06] <Kealper> ok then, in the top spot, there is a button called New...
#601 [06:06] <Kealper> click it
#602 [06:07] <Kealper> call the variable name PATH
#603 [06:07] <Kealper> is your computer x64 or x86?
#604 [06:07] <buddy1987> not sure... how would I know?
#605 [06:08] <Kealper> meh, we'll try the first one, if it doesn't work then it's x64....
#606 [06:08] <Kealper> in the value...
#607 [06:08] <buddy1987> its only nine months old so its fairly new if that helps
#608 [06:08] <buddy1987> ah ok
#609 [06:08] <Kealper> put: C:\Program Files\Java\bin
#610 [06:09] <buddy1987> k go that
#611 [06:09] <Kealper> wait...actually..lemme confirm that real quick
#612 [06:09] <buddy1987> k
#613 [06:09] <Kealper> oh, forgot a folder
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#615 [06:09] <Kealper> C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin
#616 [06:09] <buddy1987> k got that
#617 [06:10] <Kealper> click ok in both windows, and try that java -version thing in cmd again
#618 [06:10] <SgtMuffin> So Paypal payments aren't getting through straight away today?
#619 [06:10] <Kealper> indeed you would be correct SgtMuffin
#620 [06:10] <SgtMuffin> damn
#621 [06:10] <SgtMuffin> ok thanks
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#625 [06:11] <buddy1987> still get the same message...
#626 [06:11] <lemon-rev> marry xmas everyone from aussie :)
#627 [06:12] <Kealper> ok then, you must have a x64 version of windows
#628 [06:12] <Kealper> lemon-rev: bah, humbug! it's only the 24th here :P
#629 [06:12] <lemon-rev> lol
#630 [06:12] <lemon-rev> yes 24th here too
#631 [06:12] <Kealper> ok buddy1987, go back into that enviroment variables thing
#632 [06:12] <buddy1987> so do I need to reopen the environment thing?
#633 [06:12] <lemon-rev> but night will be 25th lol
#634 [06:12] <Kealper> true, true...
#635 [06:13] <buddy1987> k
#636 [06:13] <Kealper> edit the path variable, change Program Files to: Program Files (x86)
#637 [06:13] <Kealper> press ok on both windows, and give the version check a whirl again
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#640 [06:15] <buddy1987> still the same thing
#641 [06:15] <mib_v5lxkz> Anyone here has an extra code for minecraft?
#642 [06:15] <Kealper> not i
#643 [06:16] <Kealper> and this is not exactly the place for asking for free minecraft...
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#645 [06:16] <Kealper> buddy1987: well then...
#646 [06:16] <mib_v5lxkz> nono, not free
#647 [06:16] <mib_v5lxkz> I would pay for it
#648 [06:17] <Kealper> oh...not as bad, but this is the tech support help channel, not the main channel lol
#649 [06:17] <Kealper> you could try #minecraft but you will get one of two reactions with that question in there
#650 [06:17] <mib_v5lxkz> ok, thanks
#651 [06:17] <Kealper> one of pure disgust, and you will be treated like a troll, or someone will sell you one
#652 [06:17] <mib_v5lxkz> :p
#653 [06:18] <mib_v5lxkz> I'm banned from that channel?
#654 [06:18] <mib_v5lxkz> I've never been there :p
#655 [06:18] <Kealper> lol...they must have banned Mibbit....
#656 [06:19] <Kealper> buddy1987: try going to C:\Program Files\Java
#657 [06:19] <Kealper> in a folder
#658 [06:19] <Kealper> also check to see if you have a Program Files (x86) folder in there aswell
#659 [06:19] <buddy1987> this is the message U an getting C:\Users\Buddy\AppData\Local\Temp\wz6cdb\minecraft-server.jar
#660 [06:19] <mib_v5lxkz> well, I'm off then, bye
#661 [06:19] <buddy1987> meant to say I am getting
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#663 [06:20] <buddy1987> ok going to see
#664 [06:20] <Kealper> O.o did you just extract open it instead of savng it and opening it?
#665 [06:20] <Vaegir> come on process
#666 [06:20] <Kealper> redownload it...it'll get deleted eventually if it's in the temp dir
#667 [06:20] <buddy1987> no the only option was to save...
#668 [06:21] <buddy1987> should I drag and drop to the Java Folder if I find it?
#669 [06:21] <Kealper> no
#670 [06:21] <buddy1987> k
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#672 [06:22] <Kirdog> Lol people. when problem with payments will be solved??
#673 [06:22] <Kealper> if we knew, we would be telling people to wait until then, but we know just as much as you when it comes to this
#674 [06:23] <Kirdog> ok )
#675 [06:23] <Kealper> since we don't exactly know if this problem with payment notifications is on Minecraft's end or PayPal's end, it's hard to say when it will get fixed
#676 [06:23] <barrycarlyon> I blame paypal.
#677 [06:24] <barrycarlyon> Tho work for a company where the ceo is one of paypals euorpaen directors (or something along those lines)
#678 [06:24] <Neckblaze> Stupid Paypal fails anyway.
#679 [06:24] <barrycarlyon> Hehe.
#680 [06:24] <Kirdog> i payed via paypal
#681 [06:24] <barrycarlyon> Me too.
#682 [06:25] <Kirdog> Paypal is good
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#684 [06:25] <Kirdog> lol
#685 [06:25] <barrycarlyon> Paypal is good.
#686 [06:25] <barrycarlyon> :-D
#687 [06:25] <Kirdog> it's solid !
#688 [06:25] <Neckblaze> I bought Minecraft without any problem, (but not there yet, for some reason. But my Money is gone from my bank account :D), and when I try to buy a game on Steam, it tells me to register a credit card for no reason and dosent let me buy games
#689 [06:25] <barrycarlyon> I might drop you guys a line when the paypal thing I'm working on is ready.
#690 [06:25] <buddy1987> still got the same thing Kealper... it is in a temp folder though because it is still in the zip folder correct?
#691 [06:25] <barrycarlyon> Steam needs credit card tho doesn't it?
#692 [06:25] <Neckblaze> no
#693 [06:25] <Kealper> buddy1987: did you just run it from the zip?
#694 [06:26] <Neckblaze> with my brothers paypal account I can buy without any problem too
#695 [06:26] <Neckblaze> but it fails on my account
#696 [06:26] <buddy1987> ya that is what I was trying to do..
#697 [06:26] <Neckblaze> and we both dont have credits card.
#698 [06:26] <Neckblaze> +s
#699 [06:26] <Kealper> extrac all 3 files to their own folder somewhere lol
#700 [06:26] <Kealper> as for this payment thing, i half-think it's a problem on Minecraft's end
#701 [06:26] <Neckblaze> Yeah, I guess so too
#702 [06:28] <buddy1987> ok I created a folder called minecraft server on my desktop... and got the same error but the filepath is now reflecting the folder I just created...
#703 [06:29] <Kealper> well yea, since it doesnot have java in the path, but there is still a way to get it to start without having it in the path
#704 [06:29] <Kealper> did you find that Java folder?
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#706 [06:31] <buddy1987> ya I found it
#707 [06:31] <Kealper> ok, go in to that, is there a jre6 folder?
#708 [06:31] <buddy1987> ya
#709 [06:31] <Kealper> and in that is there a bin folder?
#710 [06:31] <buddy1987> ya
#711 [06:32] <Kealper> ok...close enough...lol
#712 [06:32] <Kealper> and you found this in Program Files or Program Files (x86)?
#713 [06:32] <buddy1987> programfiles(x86)
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#715 [06:33] <buddy1987> I clicked computer from start menu and clicked prog.(x86) and found java
#716 [06:33] <Kealper> ok, yea, you are running x64 windows....when you changed that paht variable, did it say exactly: C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin
#717 [06:33] <buddy1987> lemme check
#718 [06:34] <buddy1987> no space between the word files and (x86) should there be?
#719 [06:34] <Kealper> yes, there is a space between Files and (x86)
#720 [06:35] <buddy1987> ok just did the cmd line java -version and got a version
#721 [06:35] <Kealper> ok then
#722 [06:36] <Kealper> start the server with that start server.bat and it'll work
#723 [06:36] <buddy1987> it is still coming up and disappearing instantly..
#724 [06:36] <Kealper> when running that bat file?
#725 [06:37] <Kealper> right click on it, go to edit, and check if it has 3 lines of text in it
#726 [06:37] <Kealper> the last line should be: pause
#727 [06:38] <buddy1987> there is no edit section... lemme try doing open with and using notepad
#728 [06:38] <buddy1987> wait there isn't even an open with button
#729 [06:39] <Kealper> o.o
#730 [06:39] <Kealper> just run Notepad and drag the file into the window then
#731 [06:40] <buddy1987> @echo off java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer pause
#732 [06:41] <Kealper> that's weird...that should not be closing then....
#733 [06:41] <Kealper> ok then...more fun stuff...copy that entire second line
#734 [06:41] <Kealper> right click on the folder that contains your server files
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#736 [06:42] <Kealper> is there an option to open a terminal window there or a console window...or w/e?
#737 [06:43] <buddy1987> how would I do that or find that?
#738 [06:43] <Kealper> just right click on the folder
#739 [06:43] <Kealper> the folder icon, not the actual open folder
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#741 [06:44] <Kealper> ugh i'm tired....uhh...nvm scratch that, it's probably not there anyways
#742 [06:44] <buddy1987> I see open and open as notebook in one note
#743 [06:44] <Kealper> just open a cmd window, and type cd desktop
#744 [06:44] <buddy1987> k
#745 [06:45] <buddy1987> hit enter?
#746 [06:45] <Kealper> you said it was in a folder called Minecraft Server
#747 [06:45] <Kealper> yes, hit enter
#748 [06:45] <Kealper> and there was supposed to be a question mark after that question....lol
#749 [06:45] <buddy1987> yes it is titled Minecraft Server
#750 [06:45] <Kealper> ok
#751 [06:46] <Kealper> now type cd minecraft server
#752 [06:46] <Kealper> press enter
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#754 [06:46] <buddy1987> k
#755 [06:46] <buddy1987> done
#756 [06:46] <Kealper> now, remember how i said to copy that second line in that bat file?
#757 [06:46] <buddy1987> ya
#758 [06:46] <Kealper> right click the cmd window, and select paste
#759 [06:47] <Kealper> if it pasted fine, press enter
#760 [06:47] <buddy1987> ok it worked...
#761 [06:47] <Kealper> the server started up correctly?
#762 [06:48] <buddy1987> yes... all the way down to Level saved! Load: 0/16
#763 [06:48] <Kealper> ok, that means it's running
#764 [06:49] <Kealper> and i'm rather curious as to why that batch file didn't work >.>
#765 [06:49] <buddy1987> me too... do I need to do this every time?
#766 [06:49] <buddy1987> and also how do I set ops and do all that stuff?
#767 [06:50] <buddy1987> or will that be on my part of the game automatically
#768 [06:50] <Kealper> look inside the server's folder, there is now a few files
#769 [06:50] <buddy1987> aaahhhh ok I see...
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#771 [06:51] <buddy1987> so will I need to copy the second line and paste into that format each time? or is there a way to fix that issue?
#772 [06:52] <Kealper> to be honest, i'm not sure what is up with that...your computer does not appear to be running that batch file...
#773 [06:52] <buddy1987> I wonder if I killed server now and tried to start the batch file if it would work this time...
#774 [06:53] <Kealper> you could give it a shot lol
#775 [06:53] <buddy1987> should I try that?
#776 [06:53] <buddy1987> k... brb
#777 [06:54] <Kealper> if it does not start, gimme a few and i'll whip together a program that will act like the batch file....
#778 [06:54] <buddy1987> nope same thing happened....
#779 [06:54] <buddy1987> k..
#780 [06:54] <Kealper> alright then, gimme a sec
#781 [06:54] <buddy1987> k
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#783 [06:56] <SDiablo{GT}> hi :) i wait a hole day slowly is it annoying me ^^
#784 [06:57] <Kealper> the 5k people saying the exact same thing is pretty annoying for me too.....
#785 [06:57] <buddy1987> out of curiosity should ther be an ops file? there isn't in the folder
#786 [06:58] <Kealper> it's called admins.txt for classic
#787 [06:58] <buddy1987> k
#788 [06:58] <Kealper> ok, compiling program now...
#789 [06:58] <buddy1987> k
#790 [06:59] <SDiablo{GT}> only 3000 people buy the game in last 24h so there can't be a problem, much other shop have more costumers to manage
#791 [06:59] <SDiablo{GT}> ok i wait, but bad primed
#792 [06:59] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/start-server.exe tell me when you download it so i can remove it from there
#793 [07:00] <Kealper> SDiablo{GT}: that's still one purchase every 30 sec for the whole half hour
#794 [07:00] <Kealper> fail...
#795 [07:00] <Kealper> whole 24 hours
#796 [07:00] <Kealper> wow i am tired lol
#797 [07:01] <buddy1987> ur not gonna believe this...
#798 [07:01] <buddy1987> I saved file
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#800 [07:01] <buddy1987> then clicked from my internet downloads to use or download and it's doing the same thing
#801 [07:01] <Kealper> and you put it inside the same folder as minecraft-server.jar?
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#803 [07:03] <buddy1987> I couldn't put it anywhere... the only option was to save file... when saving it put it in my internet downloads then after I clicked it and it ran and did the same thing... no option given to set a destination folder
#804 [07:03] <Kealper> move that file into your minecraft serve folder and run it again
#805 [07:03] <Kealper> just drag it into the folder
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#808 [07:04] <buddy1987> cannot drag from my internet download bin
#809 [07:04] <Kealper> what do you mean internet download bin?
#810 [07:04] <Kealper> it
#811 [07:04] <Kealper> fail...
#812 [07:04] <Kealper> it'll be in your Downloads folder
#813 [07:05] <buddy1987> wait got it.... I rightclicked and selected open containing folder then dragged from there..
#814 [07:05] <Kealper> are you using firefox? if so, just right click it in there, and select Open containing folder
#815 [07:05] <Kealper> lol
#816 [07:05] <buddy1987> and it was a success
#817 [07:07] <Kealper> there is a file called externalurl.txt, inside that is a link to play on your server
#818 [07:07] <buddy1987> would tinyurling that screw the link up or is that ok?
#819 [07:08] <buddy1987> ya I just linked to my server :)
#820 [07:08] <Kealper> yes you can tinyurl it
#821 [07:09] <buddy1987> ok how do I put the fly commands and ranks etc into the game?
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#823 [07:09] <barrycarlyon> Minecraft no has fly.
#824 [07:09] <Kealper> those are done with mods
#825 [07:09] * barrycarlyon is exclaming loudly
#825 [07:09] <Kealper> lol
#826 [07:10] <buddy1987> ah ok... how do I do the mods?
#827 [07:10] <Kealper> that is not covered in this channel
#828 [07:11] <buddy1987> ah ok sry :)
#829 [07:11] <Kealper> and i'm super out of the loop with classic, so i don't even know...
#830 [07:12] <buddy1987> I really appreciate your help :)
#831 [07:12] <Neckblaze> wonder if I can play until new year begins, lol
#832 [07:12] <Kealper> lol
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#834 [07:14] <buddy1987> you are awesome Kealper.. never would have made it this far without you... would have still been scratching my head and throwing things lol
#835 [07:14] <Kealper> np lol, it's what i'm here for :P
#836 [07:15] <buddy1987> well, I will talk to you later :) I am sure I will be back lol
#837 [07:15] <Kealper> alright lol, but i'm probably going to be sleeping within a few minutes
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#840 [07:17] <mbentley> wow Kealper, you're still awake? i've already slept lol
#841 [07:17] <Kealper> i slept, but not for as long as i should have
#842 [07:17] <Kealper> so imma take a nap so i don't need one at like 2pm lol
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#845 [07:21] <wippler> hm...
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#847 [07:22] <wippler> I know it says we shouldnt ask but, when the paypal problem gets fixed will we have to pay again? or will it put us to the paid list automatecly?
#848 [07:22] <wippler> grammar fails sorry.
#849 [07:22] <mbentley> no you shouldn't have to pay again
#850 [07:22] <wippler> Alright.
#851 [07:23] <wippler> But one more question
#852 [07:23] <mbentley> there is just a delay somewhere between paypal and minecraft activation servers
#853 [07:23] <mbentley> ok
#854 [07:24] <wippler> when our user gets premium how do you like "play online" to enable offline mode? just log into the client and the re-log or what?
#855 [07:24] <mbentley> the first time you login, it will enable offline mode
#856 [07:24] <wippler> Alright.
#857 [07:24] <mbentley> it just has form of cached credentials to know you are a legit user
#858 [07:25] <wippler> mery christmas and thanks for the info :)
#859 [07:25] <wippler> and a happy new year x)
#860 [07:25] <mbentley> thanks you too
#861 [07:25] <mbentley> and no problem
#862 [07:26] <wippler> dang, minecraft is like a rolling snowball grows and grows :)
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#870 [07:40] <Beachill> Hey i bought minecraft 30 hours ago and i still dont have it, is something wrong? :(
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#872 [07:41] <mbentley> !premium
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#874 [07:43] <K4z00^> Hey:) how long does it take to i get the game :) and Merry x-mas :)
#875 [07:43] <mbentley> !premium
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#877 [07:45] <kontroll> Merry shitmas, minecrafters.
#878 [07:45] <Beachill> why thankyou sir
#879 [07:45] <Mjiig> not yet :(
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#883 [07:54] <barrycarlyon> Lol.
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#885 [07:59] <Vax> any news about the payment being recognized thing? :-(
#886 [07:59] <Vax> waiting eagerly
#887 [07:59] <Kealper> still seems broke
#888 [07:59] <Kealper> and i think it's time to restart my computer....i've got PIDs of like 850k
#889 [08:00] <Mjiig> Kealper how long has it been up to manage that ...
#890 [08:00] <Kealper> i don't even know lol
#891 [08:00] <Kealper> i'll be back in a few, restarting computer lol
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#896 [08:07] <Kealper> sigh...no autoop
#897 [08:08] <Mjiig> so who else has just realized that it's chirtmas eve and they haven't wrapped presents yet :)
#898 [08:08] * Kealper raises hand
#898 [08:08] <mbentley> i shocked myself... i was done with shopping and wrapping two weeks ago
#899 [08:09] <mbentley> i am usually 'that guy' who is out shopping the days before christmas :D
#900 [08:09] <mbentley> did all of my shopping online this year because i REALLY hate people :)
#901 [08:09] <Kealper> lol
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#903 [08:11] <barrycarlyon> mbentley me too
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#905 [08:13] <jenny> hello
#906 [08:13] <Kealper> ello
#907 [08:14] <jenny> why do hung up pictures on walls disappear after disconnecting and connecting on a public server again
#908 [08:14] <Kealper> pictures are not working 100% yet
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#910 [08:21] <jenny> will this be fixed soon
#911 [08:22] <Kealper> no idea, but yes, i would like to be able to decorate my places in multiplayer aswell :S
#912 [08:24] <Kealper> ok i'm off to bed for a few hours before i gotta get up and do stuff
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#915 [08:27] <kontroll> Guys.
#916 [08:27] <kontroll> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/9/9b/Two_way_booster_2.png
#917 [08:28] <kontroll> The tight turns to the down slope. Some page said I placed a block on the tile I wanted to turn. It's doing nothing.
#918 [08:28] <kontroll> Is it still possible, and if so; how?
#919 [08:28] <mbentley> yes
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#921 [08:28] <mbentley> kontroll: place a block over the slope
#922 [08:28] <kontroll> Sec.
#923 [08:28] <mbentley> then put a piece of track on top of that block
#924 [08:29] <mbentley> but that booster sucks imo
#925 [08:29] <kontroll> Not doing the trick.
#926 [08:29] <kontroll> And do go on. :P
#927 [08:29] <mbentley> kontroll: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Booster_one-way_cheap_3.png
#928 [08:29] <mbentley> see that block? put track on top of it
#929 [08:30] <mbentley> it will work
#930 [08:30] <kontroll> Hm.
#931 [08:30] <kontroll> Sec.
#932 [08:30] <kontroll> Thank you. :D
#933 [08:30] <kontroll> <3
#934 [08:30] <mbentley> and this is the most efficient from what i have found >> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Two_way_booster.jpg
#935 [08:30] <mbentley> works both ways, resets itself
#936 [08:30] <mbentley> boosts both ways
#937 [08:31] <kontroll> /nod
#938 [08:31] <kontroll> For now, I require only one on each station though.
#939 [08:31] <mbentley> then that other booster will work great for you
#940 [08:31] <kontroll> Yep. Exactly my thought. :)
#941 [08:32] <kontroll> How short can I make it anyway?
#942 [08:32] <kontroll> Longer = better?
#943 [08:32] <mbentley> longer = bigger boost
#944 [08:32] <kontroll> Gotcha.
#945 [08:32] <mbentley> i find about 5 blocks of track is the max speed
#946 [08:32] <kontroll> Alright.
#947 [08:33] <mbentley> but if you make it too long, it may have issues resetting
#948 [08:33] <mbentley> i had the exact same issue trying to figure out how to make that last piece of track turn... haha
#949 [08:33] <zz> Instead of having the slopes, would it work to just have the curved part going round the back of the block?
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#952 [08:34] <mbentley> zz: you mean like this >> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Autoreset_booster.jpg ?
#953 [08:34] <zz> err no
#954 [08:35] <zz> I just don't see why the slopes are there really
#955 [08:35] <mbentley> because you need a slope or a turn for them to work
#956 [08:35] <mbentley> it's the 'physics' of them
#957 [08:36] <mbentley> otherwise (apparently) they won't boost
#958 [08:36] <zz> Hmm, ok
#959 [08:36] <zz> A more sensible physics would be good, heh
#960 [08:41] <Visiiri> Someone needs to buy http://www.elgoog.com/
#961 [08:41] <Visiiri> because it's google backwards
#962 [08:41] <Visiiri> and they haven't registered it yet
#963 [08:41] <Visiiri> like gewgle and g00gle
#964 [08:42] <mbentley> Visiiri: elgoog.com has already been registered
#965 [08:42] <mbentley> http://www.checkdomain.com/cgi-bin/checkdomain.pl?domain=elgoog.com
#966 [08:42] <mbentley> google owns it
#967 [08:42] <mbentley> :)
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#970 [08:45] <Sami> I suppose payment issues were not solved yet?
#971 [08:45] <mbentley> apparently not :/
#972 [08:45] <Van88> ah i just wanted to ask why i am getting no response Email when i bought the game but now i know why ^^
#973 [08:45] <Sami> Thats very poor service ::/
#974 [08:46] <Sami> Van88,there are some payment processing errors today,they say it will soon be fixed.
#975 [08:46] <Sami> I got no reponse,except than payment recieved.
#976 [08:47] <Van88> okey thx =) i heard about the game in a pc magazin and just was fascinated ^^
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#978 [08:49] <Sami> I hope to be fascinated too
#979 [08:49] <zenon> Hello
#980 [08:50] <zenon> i'm sorry but i payed Minecraft premium on the 23 decembre 2 days?
#981 [08:51] <Sami> and you havent recieved the code?
#982 [08:51] <zenon> No
#983 [08:51] <Sami> Please note: Minecraft.net is currently having issues recieving payment notifications today; Just sit tight for about a day or so, your payment will get recognized eventually!
#984 [08:51] <zenon> Yes but this are 2 days
#985 [08:52] <zenon> Please help me
#986 [08:52] <zenon> When it will come?
#987 [08:52] <zenon> sorry for my bad english i'm from Switzerland :P
#988 [08:52] <Zenreich> Sami, and then it isnt fixed for a week, and everyone's refunds are denied.
#989 [08:53] <Sami> What do you mean Zen :o
#990 [08:53] <Zenreich> I'm saying its a conspiracy :v
#991 [08:53] <zenon> Who long i must wait for my Premium account?
#992 [08:53] <Sami> Better refund now hehe
#993 [08:53] <nipper> It's xmas give it time It will go throw.
#994 [08:54] <zenon> Yeah my friend maked a server and they are playing nonstop :(
#995 [08:54] <zenon> And i can only hear how they are talking about :(
#996 [08:54] <zenon> *listen
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#998 [08:55] <Zenreich> zenon, *cough*lessthanlegitimateclient*cough*
#999 [08:55] <Zenreich> zenon, *cough*online-mode=false*cough*
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#1001 [08:55] <zenon> i'm sorry but what is that?
#1002 [08:56] <stefke_mirakel> can someone help me?
#1003 [08:56] <stefke_mirakel> I've bought minecraft over an hour ago
#1004 [08:56] <stefke_mirakel> but i can't log in
#1005 [08:56] <stefke_mirakel> does someone know what to do
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#1008 [08:57] <zenon> what do you mean with lessthanlegitimateclient?
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#1011 [08:58] <zenon> Hello?
#1012 [08:58] <zenon> Zenreich
#1013 [08:58] <kontroll> Mine carts don't despawn, do they?
#1014 [08:58] <Zenreich> zenon, see PM
#1015 [08:59] <zenon> ij
#1016 [08:59] <zenon> ok
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#1018 [09:00] <Hoffe> Hello, is there anyone here who is pro in server stuffs ?
#1019 [09:00] <barrycarlyon> Hoffe: whats the problem?
#1020 [09:01] <Zenreich> Hoffe, helo
#1021 [09:01] <Jorbazz> does anyone here work with MC?
#1022 [09:01] <Hoffe> i want to make the server so that no one can connect to the server, without me having a list of trusted pllz kinda
#1023 [09:01] <Zenreich> uh
#1024 [09:01] <Zenreich> Jorbazz, wat
#1025 [09:01] <Zenreich> Hoffe, ...close port 25565?
#1026 [09:02] <Hoffe> then no one can get in lol
#1027 [09:02] <Hoffe> i just want to allow some peapoles to get in
#1028 [09:02] <zz> That's what whitelists are for...
#1029 [09:02] <Hoffe> that i trust or have been talking to me
#1030 [09:02] <Hoffe> how does that work
#1031 [09:03] <Jorbazz> Zenreich, u admin or something?
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#1033 [09:03] <Hoffe> yes ofc, hosting me own
#1034 [09:03] <Hoffe> my*
#1035 [09:03] <Zenreich> Jorbazz, I dont understand what you mean though
#1036 [09:04] <Jorbazz> I see lots of people that have bought the game today and still have got the game after 1-10 mins, now its 24 hours since i bought it
#1037 [09:04] <Zenreich> They're having server issues
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#1039 [09:05] <Jorbazz> I know
#1040 [09:05] <Zenreich> Wait a couple days
#1041 [09:05] <Jorbazz> bah
#1042 [09:09] <kontroll> Cool.
#1043 [09:09] <kontroll> Plans for newyear.
#1044 [09:09] <kontroll> /dance
#1045 [09:17] <mbentley> i have plans for new year too
#1046 [09:17] <mbentley> 1.) get drunk
#1047 [09:17] <mbentley> that's about as far as i have gotten in my planning
#1048 [09:17] <Smiley> 2.)Dance
#1049 [09:17] <Smiley> 3.)???
#1050 [09:17] <Smiley> 4.)PROFIT!!!
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#1052 [09:18] <mbentley> if only drinking resulted in profit...
#1053 [09:18] <mbentley> :D
#1054 [09:18] <kontroll> That's what I had too, mbentley.
#1055 [09:18] <Smiley> or dancin? ;)
#1056 [09:18] <kontroll> Woman said "I'm going to spend shitmas -> new year with my father".
#1057 [09:18] <kontroll> Uh, okay.
#1058 [09:18] <kontroll> Well. Drunk it is then.
#1059 [09:18] <mbentley> drinking tends to lead to "dancing"
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#1061 [09:19] <mbentley> by dancing i mean moving around oddly displaying the level of white that i am
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#1065 [09:33] <kontroll> lawl. Me + buddy just discovered the pukey look. :D
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#1075 [09:58] <kontroll> Oops.
#1076 [09:58] <kontroll> The guy I play with will be furious when he sees I detonated a creeper on his beach.
#1077 [09:59] <mbentley> creepers happen :)
#1078 [09:59] <kontroll> Maybe not furious.
#1079 [09:59] <kontroll> But he was whining before.
#1080 [09:59] <kontroll> "MY BEACH"
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#1087 [10:06] <mistenkt> hmm is there any way to remove snow from a level now? the old methods i find dont seem to work
#1088 [10:07] <Mikau> I know you guys missed me.
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#1090 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> >.>
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#1097 [10:20] <buddy1987> is there someone on here that knows about file types?
#1098 [10:21] <Zenreich> buddy1987, possibly
#1099 [10:21] <mbentley> what about them?
#1100 [10:21] <buddy1987> I don't have a system that reads .DAT data... map data is stored in that format... and I accidentally set a system to read it... what can I download or do to make my maps readable again?
#1101 [10:22] <mbentley> by system do you mean program?
#1102 [10:22] <buddy1987> yes
#1103 [10:22] <mbentley> what are you trying to do exactly? edit your map?
#1104 [10:24] <buddy1987> well I was... but when I clicked on the map, before I knew about map editor... I set a .jar program to read it... moving too fast for my own good... now any map I make reconfigures any .DAT file I save to be read by the java folder
#1105 [10:25] <mbentley> ah so basically you created a file type association for .dat files and you need to remove it
#1106 [10:25] <buddy1987> yes
#1107 [10:25] <mbentley> what os?
#1108 [10:25] <buddy1987> win7
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#1110 [10:26] <mbentley> start > type 'file type'
#1111 [10:26] <mbentley> choose 'change the file type...'
#1112 [10:27] <mbentley> well actually, there is a better way
#1113 [10:28] <mbentley> sorry, didn't realize you couldn't remove one at that screen
#1114 [10:28] <buddy1987> ah ok...
#1115 [10:28] <mbentley> but this should help >> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/06/20/how-to-unassociate-file-types-and-remove-file-extension-associations-in-windows-vista/
#1116 [10:29] <buddy1987> thanks
#1117 [10:29] <mbentley> np
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#1119 [10:30] <Demki> I can't connect to my own classic server dammit.
#1120 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1121 [10:31] <Demki> grey, try this: http://minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=ad3f531a102ddb9340368191382c6fa6
#1122 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> Connecting.
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#1124 [10:34] <Demki> you lost connection suddenly
#1125 [10:35] <Demki> 17:34:42 GreyVulpine (/68.43.58.28) lost connection suddenly. (java.io.IOEtion: ■■Σ·≈∙°σ· ≈ΘΘε· ≡±Γ°Σ ßδ⌠ΘΣ ≥∞-ΘπΘ Σετ∙ß Σεα°τ Σε°στ≈)
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#1127 [10:36] <Demki> lol
#1128 [10:36] <Demki> ΘπΘ
#1129 [10:36] <buddy1987> bently are you still there?
#1130 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> Wierd, it stops halfway through downloading your map
#1131 [10:36] <Demki> weird
#1132 [10:36] <Demki> let me try another map
#1133 [10:37] <Demki> try now
#1134 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> There, I'm in
#1135 [10:39] <buddy1987> mbently I am not understanding what they are saying in that link...
#1136 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> Demki - Could you try with the URL and add &override=true to the end
#1137 [10:39] <Demki> same thing
#1138 [10:40] <Demki> I get that "failed to connect" immediately, but it doesn't happen on other servers
#1139 [10:40] <Demki> (I tried a public one)
#1140 [10:40] <Demki> btw, do you like the map?
#1141 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. How about:
#1142 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> http://minecraft.net/play.jsp?ip=127.0.0.1&port=25565&override=true
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#1144 [10:41] <Demki> well, the port is different, but sure.
#1145 [10:41] <Demki> (changed the port to an open one, was too lazy to open 25565)
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#1147 [10:42] <Demki> success!
#1148 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Whyy
#1149 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> er
#1150 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Whee
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#1153 [10:43] <Demki> thanks
#1154 [10:43] <Demki> also, do you like the map?
#1155 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Very.. um.. constrictive.
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#1157 [10:44] <Demki> why is that?
#1158 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Glass tunnels everywhere?
#1159 [10:44] <Demki> well, you could build other stuff
#1160 [10:44] <Demki> most of it isn't tunneled
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#1162 [10:45] <Demki> it also allows others to see whatever you build lol
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#1164 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#1165 [10:46] <Demki> someone made a pool here too
#1166 [10:46] <Demki> I helped him get the water lol
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#1169 [10:46] <Demki> and I built a chess arena lol
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#1172 [10:51] <buddy1987> I need major help lol...
#1173 [10:51] <Sami> Very odd,why doesnt my purchase process..
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#1176 [10:53] <buddy1987> can someone help me with this issue concerning mixed up file types?
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#1178 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Didn't you get that resolved just then?
#1179 [10:54] <buddy1987> no, thats not working...
#1180 [10:54] <Demki> Grey, the url you gave me only works when verify-names=false , when it's true, it says my name wasn't verified by minecraft.net(although I am connected)
#1181 [10:54] <buddy1987> I tried the steps in the link...
#1182 [10:55] <buddy1987> my .dat files are associated with Java(TM) Platform SE binary... but I type that as the filename to dissassociate and it says my system doesn't have that program
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#1184 [10:56] <Demki> have you tried removing the assiciation?
#1185 [10:56] <buddy1987> how do you do that?
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#1187 [10:56] <esper_tfnufxV> By using method 3 on this website
#1188 [10:57] <esper_tfnufxV> http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article02-500
#1189 [10:57] <Demki> what OS?
#1190 [10:57] <buddy1987> win7
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#1192 [10:57] <esper_tfnufxV> The "file types" window was removed in vista and 7.. so to delete an association, you gotta use that program above
#1193 [10:58] <buddy1987> I am headed there now esper
#1194 [10:58] <buddy1987> ty :)
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#1196 [10:59] <Demki> I forgot how to even get to that window on Windows XP
#1197 [10:59] <Demki> lol
#1198 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> pull up an explorer window
#1199 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Go to options -> folder options
#1200 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> then "file types"
#1201 [10:59] <Demki> oh right
#1202 [10:59] <Demki> lol
#1203 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> That was removed in vista and 7.
#1204 [10:59] * GreyVulpine grrs
#1204 [11:00] <Demki> why?
#1205 [11:00] <Demki> are they stupid?
#1206 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> No idea
#1207 [11:00] <Demki> anyways
#1208 [11:00] <Demki> I can't connect to my server with verify-names set to true
#1209 [11:00] <Demki> gotta go to eat
#1210 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#1211 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> You're not the only one to have this problem... it's an inherent thing in classic
#1212 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> Can't connect locally.
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#1220 [11:13] <Demki> GreyVulpine, I used to be able to connect to it lol
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#1222 [11:14] <nipper> Anyone here willing to help me test how many users my server can handle.
#1223 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> Maybe?
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#1225 [11:15] <nipper> Server address is 64.120.239.156 it's a clean world nothing there yet.
#1226 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> Do you want us to just stay around spawn, or move around?
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#1229 [11:18] <nipper> Oh, It don't matter.
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#1234 [11:20] <nipper> So far its not lagging at all. Thats good.
#1235 [11:20] <nipper> It's a VPS of FEHosting.
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#1243 [11:33] <NKE> unable to download lwjgl.jar.. can ne1 help ?
#1244 [11:34] <NKE> hello!
#1245 [11:34] <mbentley> hmm
#1246 [11:34] <NKE> oh
#1247 [11:34] <NKE> it says so during update.
#1248 [11:34] <Mjiig> NKE: are you connected to the internet?
#1249 [11:34] <NKE> well yes
#1250 [11:35] <NKE> im chating with u ^^
#1251 [11:35] <Mjiig> (just realised how stupid that Q was...)
#1252 [11:35] <NKE> hehe
#1253 [11:35] <mbentley> i take it you are using the Minecraft.exe client?
#1254 [11:36] <NKE> yes, thats the case.
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#1256 [11:37] <mbentley> windows 7?
#1257 [11:37] <NKE> yes.
#1258 [11:37] <mbentley> go to start > %appdata%\.minecraft
#1259 [11:37] <mbentley> (type that in)
#1260 [11:38] <mbentley> delete the 'bin' directory
#1261 [11:38] <mbentley> make sure the client is closed first!
#1262 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> vista and 7 have %appdata%/roaming/.minecraft
#1263 [11:39] <NKE> done
#1264 [11:39] <mbentley> reopen the client
#1265 [11:39] <mbentley> GreyVulpine: for me, win7 x64, %appdata% opens 'C:\Users\mbentley\AppData\Roaming'
#1266 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> Ah, thanks
#1267 [11:41] <NKE> ye thats the directory. but i did figure that out ^^. but now, i have deleted the Bin folder and it still freezes, and i get the (error) message.
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#1270 [11:41] <NKE> cinda frustraded, want to play the beta :/
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#1272 [11:41] <Neckblaze> meow
#1273 [11:42] <mbentley> hmm, i was just able to download the files ok
#1274 [11:42] <NKE> ye its wierd.
#1275 [11:42] <Neckblaze> That payment error isnt fixed yet? sigh.
#1276 [11:43] <peru> dont get your hopes up.. you may not be able to run the game at all
#1277 [11:44] <peru> like me
#1278 [11:44] <Neckblaze> what the
#1279 [11:44] <Neckblaze> why?
#1280 [11:44] <peru> many people have trouble launching the game
#1281 [11:44] <NKE> ne1 know what the issue is ?
#1282 [11:44] <mbentley> well NKE, i have uploaded the contents of the 'bin' folder to my webserver. http://www.mbentley.net/temp/bin.zip
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#1284 [11:45] <mbentley> delete the existing bin folder in %appdata%\.minecraft
#1285 [11:45] <mbentley> download that zip to the same location and then unzip it
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#1287 [11:45] <mbentley> see if that works...
#1288 [11:45] <mbentley> just as a temporary workaround
#1289 [11:45] <NKE> thx ill check it out asap´
#1290 [11:46] <mbentley> please let me know when you have successfully downloaded the file so i can remove it
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#1292 [11:47] <NKE> thx Mbentley u save my xmas =)
#1293 [11:47] <NKE> saved*
#1294 [11:47] <mbentley> it work then i take it?
#1295 [11:47] <NKE> ready n done, so u can bring it down. superb support dude =)
#1296 [11:47] <mbentley> cool
#1297 [11:47] <mbentley> glad to help
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#1299 [11:48] <mbentley> i can't guarantee that it will resolve future upgrade issues but it is a start
#1300 [11:48] <NKE> and im even glader to have recieved the help =) merry xmas =)
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#1302 [11:48] <Otter> Umm, how long does it take until i can login with premium? I bought the game 4 hours ago and i still cant play.
#1303 [11:49] <mbentley> !premium
#1304 [11:49] <Otter> ah.
#1305 [11:49] <Otter> okax. x3 thanks.
#1306 [11:49] <mbentley> others purchased up to 24+ hours ago and are still having issues
#1307 [11:49] <mbentley> not sure where the problem is exactly but you aren't alone
#1308 [11:50] <Otter> ... the only problem is that i wanted to give a giftcode to a friend for christmas, wouldnt be so great when it comes tomorrow or smth..
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#1310 [11:52] <mbentley> i keep trying to see if anyone from mojang has actually acknowledged that there is an issue and i see nothing
#1311 [11:53] <mbentley> i figured at least one of the forum mods would have more direct contact abilities with someone from mojang...
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#1320 [12:06] <mbentley> i just sent a PM to the 'Minecraft Moderator' group to see if someone has the ability to directly contact someone from Mojang
#1321 [12:06] <mbentley> or to at least put out an official 'we acknowledge this issue' out there
#1322 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> Have you checked the bug tracker?
#1323 [12:10] <nipper> my buddy just bought the game he had no issue no delay it was right away.
#1324 [12:11] <Mjiig> nipper: did he use paypal or credit card?
#1325 [12:11] <nipper> cc
#1326 [12:11] <Mjiig> i think i remember someone saying this was a paypal issue
#1327 [12:11] <Mjiig> but not sure
#1328 [12:12] <nipper> might be I was having lag issues earilyer checking my donations.
#1329 [12:12] <nipper> thats with paypal that is.
#1330 [12:12] <nipper> If only I could spell.
#1331 [12:12] <nipper> http://i.imgur.com/VeuFf.jpg
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#1333 [12:13] <tek2974> still having problems w/ the payment notification thing......
#1334 [12:13] <mbentley> seems to be common haven't found anything on the bug tracker that acknowledges the issue
#1335 [12:14] <tek2974> my friends finally convinced me to buy this thing and now i can't play.....i yi yi.....
#1336 [12:14] <Mjiig> tek2974: a lot of people are in the same boat
#1337 [12:14] <Mjiig> give it some time
#1338 [12:15] <Mjiig> plus both paypal and mojang are going to have less people in the office for a couple of days
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#1341 [12:15] <tek2974> understandable, but if your billing server goes down, it'd be in your guys best interest to fix it asap i would think
#1342 [12:16] <Van88> i see still problems with paypal^^
#1343 [12:16] <tek2974> wait, so is it just with paypal?
#1344 [12:16] <Mjiig> yeah but if it's paypals problem, there's nothing mojang can do
#1345 [12:16] <tek2974> so if I repay w/ my credit card and cancel the paypal payment it'll go through?
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#1347 [12:17] <Van88> i dont know i just payed with paypal so it was just a guess
#1348 [12:17] <tek2974> and mijig quit lol
#1349 [12:17] <Van88> but now its christmas time so Merry Christmas to all of you
#1350 [12:17] <mbentley> if it is on paypal's side, then i am sure that a trouble ticket to paypal from the mojang folks would help speed it along
#1351 [12:18] <tek2974> you would think, considering how many people bought this game
#1352 [12:20] <tek2974> well as far as I'm concerned they have until monday afternoon, then I'm lodging a paypal complaint, I've read some people are waiting weeks for theirs and that's just BS
#1353 [12:21] <mbentley> i can understand if someone sent an e-check but for a paypal payment, it's a little silly for it to take so long
#1354 [12:21] <tek2974> it's ridiculous, could you see what happened if steam took this long to process payments?
#1355 [12:22] <tek2974> nobody would use it, they'd switch to directdrive or the other one made by the supcom guys
#1356 [12:23] <mbentley> well this is all i have seen >> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/mojang_check_paypal_i_got_scammed
#1357 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> I was just about to post that
#1358 [12:23] <tek2974> yeah, well it's been 24 hours for me and I have sent the email already
#1359 [12:24] <tek2974> I expect the same lack of customer service as I've been reading in the forums
#1360 [12:24] <mbentley> would be nice if he would have actually just checked into the problem though instead of posting that
#1361 [12:25] <mbentley> cause that sounds like a 'no problem/won't fix' to me...
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#1363 [12:26] <SadisticLizard> Is it possible to make a painting larger than 4x4 by making an image in kz.png take up more than 4x4 boxes?
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#1365 [12:26] <wirehack7> hello
#1366 [12:27] <tek2974> yo
#1367 [12:27] <wirehack7> i bought the game today via paypal. i was logged in with my account on mc.net. my account haven't been activated until now
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#1371 [12:28] <mbentley> !premium
#1372 [12:28] <tek2974> join the club
#1373 [12:28] <LG_Legacy> What?
#1374 [12:28] <mbentley> hmm...
#1375 [12:28] <mbentley> !premium
#1376 [12:28] <tek2974> same message as yesterday
#1377 [12:28] <wirehack7> i hathe the word eventually
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#1379 [12:28] <mbentley> and http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/mojang_check_paypal_i_got_scammed
#1380 [12:28] <tek2974> yeah, it's bullshit and they know it, and they won't do anything about it
#1381 [12:28] <wirehack7> so i pay money for nothing?
#1382 [12:28] <tek2974> yup
#1383 [12:29] <LG_Legacy> Don't listen to him.
#1384 [12:29] <tek2974> bah
#1385 [12:29] <LG_Legacy> Mojang said wait a full day for it to go through.
#1386 [12:29] <LG_Legacy> So wait a day.
#1387 [12:29] <mbentley> your payment will be processed
#1388 [12:29] <tek2974> i've waited my day
#1389 [12:29] <LG_Legacy> Alot of people been having issues lately.
#1390 [12:29] <mbentley> it just isn't very efficient right now
#1391 [12:29] <tek2974> still can't get in
#1392 [12:29] <tek2974> lol
#1393 [12:30] <tek2974> efficient is taking a few hours to process, not instantly charging my paypal and then not linking it to my account
#1394 [12:30] <tek2974> the billing obviously works flawlessly
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#1396 [12:30] <LG_Legacy> They had this issue before
#1397 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> If it was working flawlessly, you wouldn't be having problems.
#1398 [12:30] <LG_Legacy> It's Mojangs side thats slow
#1399 [12:31] <wirehack7> so for how long we have to wait? i just want to play a nice game. and i payed the money to play it
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#1401 [12:31] <tek2974> The billling works flawlessly, as in my account immediately got the money taken out
#1402 [12:31] <wirehack7> i don't want to wait until the next year
#1403 [12:32] <LG_Legacy> I like how everyone starts freaking out immediately when it isn't instant and think it's automatically a scam and blame the employees disregarding the fact one of the two sites may be experiencing difficulties.
#1404 [12:32] * GreyVulpine shrugs.
#1404 [12:32] <wirehack7> LG_Legacy: that's not the fact, stop trolliung pls
#1405 [12:32] <wirehack7> i searched in interet
#1406 [12:32] <wirehack7> and there are may people with the same prob
#1407 [12:32] <wirehack7> waiting days until they have it
#1408 [12:32] <LG_Legacy> Fix your engrish
#1409 [12:32] <tek2974> if this was a isolated incident i would agree, check the forums, people have been having this problem for months
#1410 [12:32] <mbentley> wirehack7: what LG_Legacy said is a fact
#1411 [12:33] <mbentley> one of the two sites is experiencing problems
#1412 [12:33] <wirehack7> yeah but money got out
#1413 [12:33] <LG_Legacy> As i may of said before:
#1414 [12:33] <LG_Legacy> They had this issue BEFORe
#1415 [12:33] <wirehack7> then put a warning on the site
#1416 [12:33] <wirehack7> that the payment is buggy
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#1418 [12:33] <LG_Legacy> People pay, don't get their shit and ask why. People say "Wait a full day or more some more days. If anything contact mojang with blah blah blah"
#1419 [12:33] <LG_Legacy> We never hear from em again
#1420 [12:33] <wirehack7> i didn't know it until i payed and haven't recieved the game
#1421 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> They still need to work on MANY aspects of their operation. Their website is one of many.
#1422 [12:34] <LG_Legacy> Yeah
#1423 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> They aren't valve, or EA, or those supcom people.. with a pool of hundreds of programmers
#1424 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> So, really. Calm down. Be patient.
#1425 [12:34] <mbentley> and it IS christmas eve day...
#1426 [12:34] <wirehack7> LG_Legacy: some people still don't come from countries where's english is the major language, thanks
#1427 [12:34] <tek2974> no but what's 20 euros times 850,000 people who bought it, then can sure afford more then 2
#1428 [12:34] <GLaDOS> FFUUUUU
#1429 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1430 [12:35] <LG_Legacy> Failure
#1431 [12:35] <mbentley> might wanna tinyurl that link :)
#1432 [12:35] <GLaDOS> thar
#1433 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1434 [12:36] <GLaDOS> that'll save a bit of our lives
#1435 [12:36] <GLaDOS> :3
#1436 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Did we really need #mcserver?
#1437 [12:36] <mbentley> seems like a bit much
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#1439 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> I've been doing that part here since I got to this channel
#1440 [12:36] <GLaDOS> GreyVulpine: setting servers up is a lengthy process
#1441 [12:37] <tek2974> they need to make a channel for billing and payment problmes :-P
#1442 [12:37] <GLaDOS> thus, it creates a lot of lines
#1443 [12:37] * GreyVulpine shrugs and nods
#1443 [12:37] <mbentley> i thought that is what http://bit.ly/mc_faq was for...
#1444 [12:37] <GLaDOS> if we have a separate channel, then we can help them better
#1445 [12:37] <GLaDOS> tek2974: no, no
#1446 [12:37] <GLaDOS> thats what #minecraft is for
#1447 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> I suppose, usually just help them in PM once #MineCraftHelp has a queue of people waiting.
#1448 [12:37] <mbentley> no offense, but if people can't follow the steps on that page, they shouldn't be running a server lol
#1449 [12:37] <tek2974> lol well I'll go there and rant there
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#1451 [12:38] <clone1018> :D!
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#1458 [13:04] <obi_wan> question, is multiplaying still available?
#1459 [13:04] <clone1018> Yes?
#1460 [13:04] <clone1018> I'm watching Star Wars right now :P
#1461 [13:04] <obi_wan> it says my server is outdated
#1462 [13:04] <obi_wan> ;/
#1463 [13:04] <obi_wan> hehe
#1464 [13:04] <obi_wan> i got the name randomly ;)
#1465 [13:04] <obi_wan> faith!
#1466 [13:04] <clone1018> Download the new server
#1467 [13:05] <obi_wan> Multiplayer alpha server software
#1468 [13:05] <obi_wan> it says isnt that the old? ;p
#1469 [13:05] <NeoAngle> the site is not updatet now
#1470 [13:06] <NeoAngle> notch is a little bit slow :P
#1471 [13:06] <clone1018> lol
#1472 [13:06] <obi_wan> so i cant get the new one? ;P
#1473 [13:06] <clone1018> I didnt know that
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#1476 [13:13] <Andi> Is the payment problem still exists?
#1477 [13:13] <clone1018> Yes
#1478 [13:13] <xales> Andi: as far as I know
#1479 [13:13] <Andi> :-/
#1480 [13:13] <xales> it shouldnt take more than 24 hours to resolve
#1481 [13:13] <xales> email payment@mojang.com with your username and transaction id
#1482 [13:14] <Andi> okay thx
#1483 [13:14] <xales> np
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#1485 [13:15] <Andi> I payed with paypal
#1486 [13:15] <Andi> Where can i see my transaction id?
#1487 [13:15] <xales> on the paypal site
#1488 [13:15] <xales> in your "recent transactions"
#1489 [13:15] <xales> its the first thing to come up when you log in
#1490 [13:16] <Andi> yep i can see the payment...but there is no number or something
#1491 [13:16] <xales> click on it
#1492 [13:16] <Andi> Im on the details
#1493 [13:16] <Andi> ah okay
#1494 [13:16] <Andi> :-)
#1495 [13:17] <Andi> Thanks again :)
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#1507 [13:33] <kalnos> hi
#1508 [13:33] <kalnos> It has been almost 24h since I ordered,and still no news
#1509 [13:33] <kalnos> it says it will be recognized eventually,but when?
#1510 [13:33] <clone1018> email payment@mojang.com with your username and transaction id
#1511 [13:34] <kalnos> That was also done
#1512 [13:34] <kalnos> both to payments@..
#1513 [13:34] <kalnos> payment@..
#1514 [13:34] <kalnos> didnt state my ID but my username
#1515 [13:34] <kalnos> Didnt get back to me
#1516 [13:35] <clone1018> Wait till after christmas
#1517 [13:35] <mbentley> there really isn't anything you can do but wait unfortunately
#1518 [13:35] <kalnos> If it doesnt arrive within a day,I have the right to refund I hope.
#1519 [13:35] <kalnos> Internet transactions are supposed to be rapid fast and instant.
#1520 [13:36] <mbentley> tru
#1521 [13:36] <mbentley> *true
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#1523 [13:39] <kalnos> alright then,I'll be waiting a bit more,if not I'll be filing a report to refund.
#1524 [13:39] <kalnos> This game has already very poor to none customer support in my eyes.
#1525 [13:41] <clone1018> Ya
#1526 [13:41] <clone1018> Get used to it
#1527 [13:41] <clone1018> They don't care lol
#1528 [13:41] <clone1018> They'll fix it. But they dont care
#1529 [13:42] <mbentley> pretty much
#1530 [13:42] <kalnos> They don't care eh..
#1531 [13:42] <mbentley> as you can see by the response here >> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/mojang_check_paypal_i_got_scammed
#1532 [13:42] <kalnos> better refund while the time is right.
#1533 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> You get a week to request a refund
#1534 [13:43] <kalnos> The company thinks this is not a problem.
#1535 [13:43] <kalnos> rofl..
#1536 [13:43] <kalnos> A week?
#1537 [13:43] <clone1018> Well
#1538 [13:44] <kalnos> A week started from yetserday? (when I bought)
#1539 [13:44] <clone1018> They are on break lol
#1540 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes kalnos
#1541 [13:44] <kalnos> Yes,I want to believe It is due to christmas.I dont have it myself though I must respect their right to celebrate it.
#1542 [13:44] <kalnos> However after chirstmas,it is really out of my concern.
#1543 [13:44] <kalnos> christmas*
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#1546 [13:48] <kalnos> bentley thank you for your attention at the thread you posted me
#1547 [13:48] <kalnos> Michael Louisseize, (Employee), commented 2 minutes ago If they have waited 24 hours, they should then e-mail payment@mojang.com like I have said.
#1548 [13:48] <mbentley> no problem
#1549 [13:49] <mbentley> i personally think that is a poor solution but it isn't my company...
#1550 [13:49] <mbentley> i can understand processing these activations in batches but to take 24 hours or more is pretty bad
#1551 [13:49] <kalnos> I have re-emailed with ID
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#1553 [13:50] <kalnos> I dont mind bugging the company in such situations.
#1554 [13:50] <mbentley> i can totally understand why people aren't happy, i know i wouldn't exactly be thrilled
#1555 [13:50] <kalnos> next up is spambombing hehe :D
#1556 [13:51] <PxLx314> ._.
#1557 [13:52] <PxLx314> yea thats a problem
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#1559 [13:53] <PxLx314> i buyed a key for my brother yesterday but it still hasn´t arrived ._.
#1560 [13:53] <mbentley> Please wait 24 hours after purchasing the game for your account to be activated and marked as premium. If your account is still not upgraded by then, send an e-mail to payment@mojang.com with your transaction ID and username.
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#1562 [13:54] <kalnos> send 123136 emails to make sure btwç
#1563 [13:54] <kalnos> btw*
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#1577 [14:21] <Wahrheit> So how do I keep my server running if I close putty?
#1578 [14:21] <Wahrheit> Someone said something about screen
#1579 [14:21] <clone1018> Join us in #mcserver Wahrheit
#1580 [14:24] <Wahrheit> I maintain that minecraft has been restarting my computer
#1581 [14:25] <Wahrheit> hosting externally now
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#1584 [14:28] <Sigh> Any idea why in my profile on minecraft.net don't show that I have the game anymore, bought it alpha
#1585 [14:29] <mbentley> Sigh: did you pay with paypal?
#1586 [14:29] <Wahrheit> Sigh, did you redeem your code?
#1587 [14:30] <Sigh> payed with credit card
#1588 [14:30] <mbentley> hmm
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#1590 [14:32] <Sigh> testing for response
#1591 [14:35] <mbentley> i'd guess email payment@mojang.com
#1592 [14:35] <Sigh> okay will have to then
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#1594 [14:37] <megadud> hi
#1595 [14:37] <megadud> i has a minecraft problem
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#1598 [14:38] <mbentley> what sort of problem megadud
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#1600 [14:39] <megadud> so i have this big wall of water. i realized that i dont want said wall of water. i tried dumping lava on part of it, and all that did was turn a little tiny bi of it into cobblestone. but most of the lava is just in the water.
#1601 [14:40] <peru> fill water with dirt or cobblestone
#1602 [14:40] <megadud> what about the lava?
#1603 [14:40] <mbentley> the same
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#1606 [14:40] <megadud> wont that like kill me?
#1607 [14:40] <ricky> hello. i hear this is the place to go for minecraft help
#1608 [14:40] <peru> possibly
#1609 [14:41] <megadud> ... ill try.
#1610 [14:41] <mbentley> megadud: not if you place a block into the lava and not yourself :)
#1611 [14:41] <ricky> okay, my minecraft is stuck at "updating minecraft"
#1612 [14:41] <ricky> and will not load completely
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#1614 [14:41] <peru> try blocking it on your firewall
#1615 [14:41] <peru> and playing offline
#1616 [14:42] <ricky> sigh...
#1617 [14:42] <ricky> playing offline is still updating the minecraft
#1618 [14:42] <clone1018> Cial /join #mcserver
#1619 [14:42] <peru> how can it update itself, if you block it on firewall?
#1620 [14:43] <ricky> how do i block it?
#1621 [14:43] <lukegb> Err
#1622 [14:43] <lukegb> Enter an incorrect username and password
#1623 [14:44] <ricky> nothing
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#1625 [14:44] <peru> my minecraft wont load after updating.. so i restored old ver of [bin] blocked it on firewall and am playing on old version :(
#1626 [14:45] <ricky> i dont think you guys are actually helping
#1627 [14:45] <ricky> what was i thinking...
#1628 [14:45] <peru> the one doing the helping is GreyVulpine
#1629 [14:45] <dark> i payed for minecraft about 30 hours ago it still isnt on my account
#1630 [14:46] <mbentley> ricky: where are you exactly getting stuck?
#1631 [14:46] <mbentley> Please wait 24 hours after purchasing the game for your account to be activated and marked as premium. If your account is still not upgraded by then, send an e-mail to payment@mojang.com with your transaction ID and username.
#1632 [14:46] <mbentley> all you can really do it email them
#1633 [14:46] <ricky> bought it maybe two weeks ago
#1634 [14:46] <ricky> been playing a long time
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#1636 [14:47] <ricky> xso i log in, it says "updating minecraft" up top "done loading" in the middle, but the progress bar is 80% green
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#1638 [14:47] <dark> well that dosnt help i have already sent any email
#1639 [14:47] <mbentley> well that is about all you can do at the moment unfortunately
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#1641 [14:48] <ricky> sigh...
#1642 [14:49] <mbentley> ricky: one second
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#1644 [14:50] <Monkee> minecraft says login failed and the site says wrong password or username and im 100% sure they are both correct and when i try to use the forgot your password thing i dont recieve the email and if i try with my email it says user not found
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#1646 [14:51] <ricky> capslock? proper puncuation?
#1647 [14:51] <mbentley> ricky: go to %appdata%\.minecraft
#1648 [14:51] <mbentley> start > type ^^^ in
#1649 [14:51] <ricky> in search?
#1650 [14:51] <mbentley> which os?
#1651 [14:51] <ricky> older windows
#1652 [14:51] <mbentley> winxp?
#1653 [14:51] <mbentley> start > run
#1654 [14:51] <ricky> mhmm
#1655 [14:51] <mbentley> then type that in
#1656 [14:52] <ricky> percent signs too?
#1657 [14:52] <mbentley> download http://www.mbentley.net/temp/bin.zip to %appdata%\.minecraft
#1658 [14:52] <mbentley> yes
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#1660 [14:52] <mbentley> it should open a folder. you should see a 'bin' directory
#1661 [14:52] <dark> i have waited a day any idear how much longer i have to wait for my game?
#1662 [14:52] <mbentley> delete that directory
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#1664 [14:53] <ricky> okay i
#1665 [14:53] <mbentley> once you have downloaded bin.zip and deleted the 'bin' directory, you need to unzip bin.zip and that should create a new 'bin' directory
#1666 [14:53] <ricky> i've opened the appdata file
#1667 [14:53] <ricky> i see bin
#1668 [14:53] <mbentley> ok, delete it
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#1670 [14:53] <ricky> okay
#1671 [14:53] <dark> does he put minecraft beta on to all the accounts by hand?
#1672 [14:54] <mbentley> download http://www.mbentley.net/temp/bin.zip
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#1674 [14:54] <lukegb> mbentley: stop helping pirates.
#1675 [14:54] <lukegb> mbentley: ricky might not be
#1676 [14:55] <ricky> okay
#1677 [14:55] <lukegb> But
#1678 [14:55] <ricky> lets see
#1679 [14:55] <lukegb> Providing those files allows anyone to play minecraft offline
#1680 [14:56] <ricky> great! it's now on a completely black minecraft screen
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#1682 [14:56] <ricky> better than waiting for it to load
#1683 [14:56] <lemon-rev> u updated java
#1684 [14:57] <ricky> i should update java now?
#1685 [14:57] <lemon-rev> yes then get back into game see if that helps
#1686 [14:58] <ricky> potentially brb
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#1690 [14:58] <framedrop> Hello
#1691 [14:58] <Mjiig> hi
#1692 [14:58] <framedrop> I buyed minecraft
#1693 [14:59] <Mjiig> has the payment not gone through?
#1694 [14:59] <framedrop> but it says
#1695 [14:59] <framedrop> it has
#1696 [14:59] <framedrop> but it says
#1697 [14:59] <Wahrheit> !premium
#1698 [14:59] <Mjiig> !premium
#1699 [14:59] <framedrop> play online
#1700 [14:59] <Wahrheit> SNIPED
#1701 [14:59] <framedrop> once to enable offlince
#1702 [14:59] <framedrop> How do i enable it?
#1703 [15:00] <mbentley> framedrop: what is your minecraft username you signed up with?
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#1705 [15:00] <Mjiig> framedrop: does that happen if your using the client on the site?
#1706 [15:01] <framedrop> I downloaded the client
#1707 [15:01] <framedrop> Yeah the payment
#1708 [15:01] <framedrop> haven't gone trough
#1709 [15:01] <framedrop> yet.
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#1711 [15:01] <framedrop> Well
#1712 [15:01] <ricky> nothing
#1713 [15:01] <framedrop> Bye
#1714 [15:01] <Mjiig> yeah read the messages from AUbot
#1715 [15:01] <framedrop> Ok
#1716 [15:02] <framedrop> Cool
#1717 [15:02] <framedrop> Well bye!
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#1719 [15:02] <ricky> still having issues
#1720 [15:02] <Mjiig> ricky: issues of what sort?
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#1723 [15:03] <ricky> well, after just fixing one problem with minecraft updating,
#1724 [15:03] <ricky> whenever i log in, the screen turns black in the window
#1725 [15:03] <Monkee> so can anyone help me? i cant log in
#1726 [15:04] <ricky> whenever i type the wrong password, the screen turns black
#1727 [15:04] <Mjiig> Monkee: what does it say?
#1728 [15:04] <Monkee> login failed
#1729 [15:04] <mbentley> ricky: what is your username?
#1730 [15:04] <ricky> uhm...
#1731 [15:04] <Monkee> and the site says wrong user or password
#1732 [15:04] <Monkee> and i am 100% they are correct
#1733 [15:04] <ricky> is that a legitimate question?
#1734 [15:04] <mbentley> yes
#1735 [15:04] <mbentley> your minecraft username
#1736 [15:05] <ricky> why do you need to know that?
#1737 [15:05] <clone1018> If anyone is up for helping a Minecraft Hosting startup think of ideas for its service (and prices and stuff) join #clone1018and help me out
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#1739 [15:05] <Mjiig> Monkee: so you can't log in on the site either?
#1740 [15:05] <Monkee> yeah
#1741 [15:05] <mbentley> just seeing if your account is set to 'premium' which would allow you to login properly
#1742 [15:05] <ricky> i'm pretty sure it is, i've been playing for a long time
#1743 [15:05] <Monkee> by searching the forum i found many threads with the same problem but no solution
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#1745 [15:05] <mbentley> ricky: go here >> http://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=<username>
#1746 [15:06] <mbentley> substitute <username> with your username
#1747 [15:06] <ricky> it says flase lul
#1748 [15:06] <ricky> false
#1749 [15:06] <mbentley> that they would be why you can't login
#1750 [15:06] <mbentley> *then that
#1751 [15:06] <ricky> now it says true
#1752 [15:06] <Mjiig> Monkee: to be absolutely sure try recovering your password
#1753 [15:07] <Monkee> i tried and didnt recieve the email
#1754 [15:07] <Monkee> and with my email it cant find the user
#1755 [15:07] <ricky> is caps lock on?
#1756 [15:07] <ricky> number pad?
#1757 [15:07] <ricky> any of that stuff?
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#1760 [15:07] <Monkee> saced passwords
#1761 [15:07] <Monkee> saved
#1762 [15:07] <ricky> so
#1763 [15:07] <ricky> can ANYONE help me?
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#1765 [15:08] <Mjiig> ricky: have you paid for minecraft?
#1766 [15:08] <ricky> yes
#1767 [15:08] <ricky> while in alpha
#1768 [15:08] <Mjiig> around when?
#1769 [15:08] <ricky> two weeks ago
#1770 [15:08] <ricky> maybe a month
#1771 [15:08] <ricky> yeah, a month ago
#1772 [15:08] <Mjiig> not sure then
#1773 [15:08] <Mjiig> sorry
#1774 [15:08] * CruelNoise is now known as MC-CruelNoise
#1775 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> ricky - Hmm... You can't log in via the client or the browser at all?
#1776 [15:09] <Kealper> payment@mojang.com
#1777 [15:09] <Monkee> GreyVulpine i cant log in
#1778 [15:09] <kalnos> payment@mojang.com is not very useful.They dont reply you.
#1779 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> Oh. um.
#1780 [15:10] <ricky> yes, i can log in, but then the screen turns black
#1781 [15:10] <ricky> in the client
#1782 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> Monkee - Did you perchance use any cracked clients at all?
#1783 [15:10] <Monkee> no
#1784 [15:10] <Monkee> i havent used anykinda trainers or anything
#1785 [15:10] <Monkee> and it worked fine yesterday
#1786 [15:11] <Kealper> ricky: are you sure you have the latest java and graphics drivers? and has it ever worked before?
#1787 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Monkee - And you didn't mess with any of your firewall/security settings?
#1788 [15:12] <Monkee> nope
#1789 [15:12] <ricky> i just installed the latest java, i've been playing for a month now, online, and in singleplayer
#1790 [15:12] <Monkee> those wouldnt really affect my browser login tho
#1791 [15:12] <Kealper> ricky: did you change anything in your computer recently? like a hardware upgrade, or something?
#1792 [15:13] <ricky> nope
#1793 [15:13] <ricky> could i have possibly delted a wrong file?
#1794 [15:13] <Kealper> ricky: do you know how to run minecraft.jar through cmd?
#1795 [15:13] <mbentley> ricky: do you run single player ever?
#1796 [15:14] <ricky> kealper, not sure
#1797 [15:14] <Kealper> !client
#1798 [15:14] <ricky> and i rarely run signleplayer anymore
#1799 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> Monkee - Could you perhaps check your HOSTS file for me real quick?
#1800 [15:14] <Kealper> snag the jar one, save it somewhere
#1801 [15:14] <Monkee> GreyVulpine sure. where are they
#1802 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> I assume you're on windows
#1803 [15:14] <Monkee> win7
#1804 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> windows -> system32 -> drivers -> etc -> HOSTS
#1805 [15:15] <Monkee> okay
#1806 [15:16] <mbentley> ricky: you might try to go to %appdata%\.minecraft and remove everything but the 'world*' folders
#1807 [15:16] <ricky> looks like the jar. file goes to a black screen to
#1808 [15:16] <mbentley> then rerun the client
#1809 [15:16] <Kealper> ricky: i was actually waiting for you to tell me when you downloaded it so i could tell you what to do lol
#1810 [15:16] <ricky> oh.
#1811 [15:16] <ricky> >.>
#1812 [15:17] <Kealper> make a txt file in the same place as that jar file
#1813 [15:17] <Kealper> open it in Notepad
#1814 [15:17] <mbentley> actually ricky, i know the problem. it is the bin directory
#1815 [15:17] <Monkee> GreyVulpine what do you want from here?
#1816 [15:17] <ricky> yeah i have the jar file from the minecraft site
#1817 [15:17] <ricky> bin
#1818 [15:17] <ricky> yeah?
#1819 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Monkee - Could you pastebin.com the contents of that file?
#1820 [15:17] <mbentley> delete that bin directory
#1821 [15:17] <Kealper> ricky: %appdata%\.minecraft
#1822 [15:17] <Monkee> why do you need my hosts file?
#1823 [15:17] <Monkee> i dont see anything important here
#1824 [15:17] <ricky> okay, its downloading packages
#1825 [15:18] <ricky> and YES
#1826 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Okay, are there any lines that aren't prefixed with #?
#1827 [15:18] <ricky> maybe
#1828 [15:18] <Monkee> nope
#1829 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Drats.
#1830 [15:18] <Monkee> everything begins with #
#1831 [15:18] <ricky> good job my friends!
#1832 [15:18] <ricky> it seems as if my minecraft is finnally working again!
#1833 [15:18] <Kealper> thank mbentley...lol
#1834 [15:18] <mbentley> sorry, i gave you the linux files which don't work for windows
#1835 [15:18] <mbentley> haha
#1836 [15:18] * Ronjoe|offline is now known as Ronjoe
#1837 [15:19] <ricky> >:O
#1838 [15:19] <mbentley> but it sounds like it redownloaded them just fine
#1839 [15:19] <ricky> well, you fixed it
#1840 [15:19] <ricky> so i thank you
#1841 [15:19] <mbentley> sweet
#1842 [15:19] <ricky> and all of you for trying
#1843 [15:19] <ricky> i'm off! and if anyone else has trouble, i will direct them to you!
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#1846 [15:19] <Kealper> i need to make the ultimate minecraft debugging program...
#1847 [15:20] <Mjiig> Kealper: what would it do
#1848 [15:20] <Mjiig> presumably check things like java version, and the stderr of running minecraft
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#1850 [15:21] <Kealper> something along the lines of checking to see if you have the latest version of java, graphics drivers, and such...also able to download the minecraft jar and check/log it's stderr
#1851 [15:21] <xaviergmail> kealper!
#1852 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Monkee - Are you able to log into the minecraft.net website with those credentials?
#1853 [15:21] <Monkee> no
#1854 [15:21] <Kealper> and also like a button that uninstalls and runs minecraft so it redownloads the files....
#1855 [15:21] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1855 [15:21] <Monkee> thats why im puzzled
#1856 [15:21] <Monkee> if it was just the client i would be able to fix this
#1857 [15:22] <xaviergmail> Kealper u any good with hardwareÉ
#1858 [15:22] <Kealper> xaviergmail: depends, define good with hardware?
#1859 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> And: http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=yourusernamehere ?
#1860 [15:22] <xaviergmail> uh
#1861 [15:22] * Kealper has an idea
#1861 [15:22] <Mjiig> Monkee: and to confirm, when you tried password recovery, it failed using either name or email address
#1862 [15:22] <xaviergmail> my video cards slot is fucked up
#1863 [15:23] <Monkee> using the name it said it send me the email but i never got it
#1864 [15:23] <xaviergmail> http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=xaviergmail
#1865 [15:23] <Monkee> and email address says it cant find the user
#1866 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> How about the link?
#1867 [15:23] <xaviergmail> i paid
#1868 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Not you xaviergmail
#1869 [15:23] <xaviergmail> :D
#1870 [15:23] <xaviergmail> any1 any good with motherboardsÉ
#1871 [15:23] <Monkee> GreyVulpine says i paid
#1872 [15:23] <xaviergmail> ?
#1873 [15:23] * [Husky]Shnaw is now known as [Husky]Shnaw|Not-Here
#1874 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Then it does recognize your account..
#1875 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> at least your name
#1876 [15:24] <Monkee> yeah
#1877 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> hm
#1878 [15:24] <Mjiig> are you sure your using the right name?
#1879 [15:24] <xaviergmail> Kealper, whatès the IRC server for linux mintÉ
#1880 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Well, if it's returning true, it's obviously the right name
#1881 [15:24] <Monkee> you cant change the email address without having the email address right?
#1882 [15:25] <mbentley> right
#1883 [15:25] <Kealper> xaviergmail: i have no idea what it defaults to...if you have linux mint installed, just run xchat and it will autoconnect to it on startup
#1884 [15:25] <Mjiig> GreyVulpine: i was thinking of the slim chance he'd entered another valid username
#1885 [15:25] <xaviergmail> kealper
#1886 [15:25] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1886 [15:25] <xaviergmail> I cant even turn on mny comp
#1887 [15:25] <Kealper> oh....well then that could be an issue...lol
#1888 [15:25] <Mjiig> xaviergmail: not sure, but it might be worth checking the ubuntu channel on freenode
#1889 [15:25] <xaviergmail> my motherboard does a continuous beep
#1890 [15:26] <Mjiig> since mint is derived from ubuntu
#1891 [15:26] <Kealper> xaviergmail: are you sure ot
#1892 [15:26] <Kealper> fail..
#1893 [15:26] <Kealper> it's not the ram?
#1894 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> I'd email notch@mojang.com, CC daniel@mojang and markus@mojang.... maybe even contact @notch on twitter... if this doesn't clear up past the holidays
#1895 [15:26] <xaviergmail> i removed both ram n video card
#1896 [15:26] <xaviergmail> ram works
#1897 [15:26] <xaviergmail> video card beeps
#1898 [15:26] <Kealper> o.o
#1899 [15:26] <Kealper> did you burn it up or something?
#1900 [15:26] <xaviergmail> no
#1901 [15:26] <mbentley> power cable plugged in for the video card?
#1902 [15:26] <xaviergmail> check out http://www.unitycorp.co.jp/asus/motherboard/intel/lga775/p5n-d/big_photo.jpg
#1903 [15:26] <xaviergmail> my motherboard
#1904 [15:26] <xaviergmail> its in the blue slot atm
#1905 [15:27] <xaviergmail> think the black 1 will workÉ
#1906 [15:27] <mbentley> should work in either
#1907 [15:27] <xaviergmail> mk
#1908 [15:27] <Kealper> xaviergmail: have you tried it in the blue slot? or is it the blue slot that's dead?
#1909 [15:27] <mbentley> unless your card is dead
#1910 [15:27] <xaviergmail> blue slotès dead
#1911 [15:28] <xaviergmail> brb gonna try
#1912 [15:28] <Kealper> and yea if it does not work in either slot, then the card is probably dead
#1913 [15:28] <xaviergmail> and idk if i had a cable fromn the power supply to the video card
#1914 [15:28] <Monkee> i might have a problem here
#1915 [15:28] <Monkee> im not sure i have the right email in my account
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#1917 [15:28] <mbentley> well, does your video card have a power connector?
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#1919 [15:28] <Monkee> cause i cant find any minecraft email in any of my email accounts
#1920 [15:29] <Kealper> xaviergmail: it will either be a 3x2 power connector or a 4x2 one that goes to the card..occasionally they will take standard molex
#1921 [15:30] <xaviergmail> mbentley
#1922 [15:30] <xaviergmail> i love you
#1923 [15:30] <xaviergmail> ut usnt cinnected
#1924 [15:30] <mbentley> lol
#1925 [15:30] <xaviergmail> it wasnt
#1926 [15:30] <mbentley> cool :)
#1927 [15:30] <Kealper> lol
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#1929 [15:30] <mbentley> better than your card being dead!
#1930 [15:30] <Kealper> so i guess we now know what happens when a powered video card doesn't get power...lol
#1931 [15:31] <xaviergmail> i thought iot was my old wireless's cable thing
#1932 [15:31] <xaviergmail> so i just took it out
#1933 [15:31] <xaviergmail> -_-
#1934 [15:32] <lemon-rev> is there a way to get unlimited white sand ?
#1935 [15:33] <Kealper> nope
#1936 [15:33] <Kealper> !unload mod_motd
#1937 [15:33] <Kealper> !load mod_mchelp
#1938 [15:33] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#1939 [15:33] <Kealper> oh fuuu....stupid flood control
#1940 [15:33] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#1941 [15:33] <mbentley> nice
#1942 [15:33] <Kealper> !paid asdfhkashj
#1943 [15:33] <Kealper> alright then lol
#1944 [15:34] <lemon-rev> !paid lemonrev
#1945 [15:34] <lemon-rev> !paid lemon-rev
#1946 [15:34] <lemon-rev> !paid lemon-rev
#1947 [15:34] <lemon-rev> lol
#1948 [15:34] <lemon-rev> well it dont see me
#1949 [15:34] <lemon-rev> lol
#1950 [15:34] <Monkee> !paid Monkenizer
#1951 [15:34] <Wahrheit> !paid Wahrheit
#1952 [15:34] <Monkee> sees mee
#1953 [15:34] <Wahrheit> !paid Wahrheit
#1954 [15:34] <Wahrheit> =[
#1955 [15:34] <Kealper> for reference, it's set to ignore anything for 10 sec after a command was issued
#1956 [15:34] <mbentley> Kealper: dunno if you wanna change !premium to the 'official' response from here >> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/mojang_check_paypal_i_got_scammed
#1957 [15:35] <lemon-rev> i see
#1958 [15:35] <Wahrheit> !paid wahrheit
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#1960 [15:35] <mbentley> or maybe combine them?
#1961 [15:35] <Kealper> hmm....
#1962 [15:36] <Kealper> idk...with that whole company thinks this is not a problem...they should have spent yesterday in this channel >.>
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#1964 [15:36] <mbentley> i know, right?
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#1966 [15:37] <Kealper> yea, i guess i can change that around...
#1967 [15:37] <Kealper> something like !payment ...and have it repeat what miclee said
#1968 [15:40] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1969 [15:41] <Kealper> !payment
#1970 [15:41] <luckz> !paid luckz
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#1972 [15:41] <mbentley> that sounds good
#1973 [15:42] <Miclee> ohlook
#1974 [15:43] <Miclee> People are quoting my thing
#1975 [15:43] <Kealper> indeed, you now have a bot that says it on command :O
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#1978 [15:47] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1979 [15:48] <Kealper> !paid me
#1980 [15:48] <Kealper> !paid AuBot
#1981 [15:48] <Kealper> ok then
#1982 [15:50] <Monkee> we should donate some monney to AuBot so it can pay for minecraft too
#1983 [15:50] <Monkee> money*
#1984 [15:50] <Cial> AuBot, the manically depressed line of code
#1985 [15:50] <Kealper> xD
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#1988 [15:54] <xaviergmail> thx mbentley :D
#1989 [15:54] <mbentley> np
#1990 [15:54] <xaviergmail> but now minecraft's a bit laggy :{
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#1992 [15:54] <clone1018> !paid clone1018
#1993 [15:55] <lemon-rev> !paid lemonrev
#1994 [15:55] <xaviergmail> !paid xaviergmail
#1995 [15:55] <lemon-rev> lol
#1996 [15:55] <lemon-rev> yay
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#1998 [15:55] <clone1018> EVERYONE SPAM IT NOW
#1999 [15:55] <lemon-rev> hahahha yup
#2000 [15:55] <lemon-rev> :P
#2001 [15:55] <xaviergmail> it didnt work
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#2003 [15:55] <Kealper> xD
#2004 [15:55] <xaviergmail> D:
#2005 [15:55] <xaviergmail> !paid xaviergmail
#2006 [15:55] <xaviergmail> wtf
#2007 [15:55] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#2008 [15:55] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#2009 [15:55] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#2010 [15:55] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#2011 [15:55] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#2012 [15:55] <Kealper> can't be spammed
#2013 [15:55] <xaviergmail> !paisd Xaviergmail
#2014 [15:55] <xaviergmail> !paid Xaviergmail
#2015 [15:55] <xaviergmail> :D
#2016 [15:55] * xaviergmail is now known as Xaviergmail
#2017 [15:56] <Kealper> if your irc name is the same as your ingame name you can use !paid me
#2018 [15:56] <Van889> !paid me
#2019 [15:56] <Van889> but i have xD
#2020 [15:56] <Kealper> unless ofcourse your ingame name is actually me, then you are SOL with that command
#2021 [15:57] <lemon-rev> lol
#2022 [15:57] <Monkee> i wanna play minecraft ;_;
#2023 [15:57] <Xaviergmail> buy it
#2024 [15:57] <Kealper> Monkee: did you already email support@minecraft.net
#2025 [15:57] <Monkee> i dont wanna buy a second account
#2026 [15:57] <Kealper> and did you try and change your password?
#2027 [15:57] <lemon-rev> hey kealper you said you where terraforming yesterday howd that go for you
#2028 [15:57] <Monkee> how do i change my password without loging in?
#2029 [15:58] <Xaviergmail> !paid Monkee
#2030 [15:58] <Kealper> i now have a keep on the top of a hill that has creeper-proof walls :D
#2031 [15:58] <Monkee> !paid monkenizer
#2032 [15:58] <Xaviergmail> !paid I
#2033 [15:58] <Xaviergmail> !paid I
#2034 [15:58] <Xaviergmail> l0l
#2035 [15:58] <lemon-rev> lol, i see
#2036 [15:58] <Xaviergmail> AuBot I has NOT paid for Minecraft!
#2037 [15:58] <Xaviergmail> thats what he said
#2038 [15:58] <Kealper> !paid AuBot
#2039 [15:59] <Monkee> !paid monkenizer
#2040 [15:59] <Xaviergmail> O_o
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#2042 [15:59] <Xaviergmail> Monkee
#2043 [15:59] <Monkee> yus?
#2044 [15:59] <Xaviergmail> did you get a cracked version that involved changing hosts file?
#2045 [15:59] <Monkee> no
#2046 [16:00] <Xaviergmail> whats exactly ur prob?
#2047 [16:00] <Kealper> Monkee: the only possible way that it is saying that you can't log in is because your password is wrong (assuming you can access minecraft.net)
#2048 [16:00] <Monkee> i cant access thats the problem
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#2050 [16:00] <Kealper> you can't even get on minecraft.net?
#2051 [16:00] <Xaviergmail> oh
#2052 [16:00] <mbentley> Michael Louisseize, (Employee), commented a minute ago
#2053 [16:00] <mbentley> Paypal puts a queue on things that are being bought quickly, so it slowly processes them instead of simply going through quickly.
#2054 [16:00] <Xaviergmail> if u cant then u cant login
#2055 [16:01] <Xaviergmail> Monkee, why can't you go on minecraft.net
#2056 [16:01] <Monkee> yeah we already got through this with grey
#2057 [16:01] <Kealper> mbentley: so... one purchase every 30 sec is too quick? :P
#2058 [16:01] <mbentley> sounds crappy either way :D
#2059 [16:01] <Kealper> Monkee: are there any other sites that you can not access as of recently?
#2060 [16:01] <Monkee> no
#2061 [16:01] <Monkee> just minecraft
#2062 [16:02] <Xaviergmail> weird
#2063 [16:02] <mbentley> must be some huge fracking queue if that is actually true
#2064 [16:02] <Xaviergmail> restart ur comp?
#2065 [16:02] <Kealper> what does it say when you try to go to it?
#2066 [16:02] <Monkee> that my password or username is wrong
#2067 [16:02] <Kealper> so....you can view the pages, you just can't log in?
#2068 [16:02] <Monkee> yeah
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#2070 [16:03] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#2071 [16:03] <Kealper> someone has either changed your password on you, or you forgot your password
#2072 [16:03] <Monkee> if i use me username i dont recieve the email and if i use my email it doesnt fint the user
#2073 [16:03] <Kealper> O.o
#2074 [16:04] <Xaviergmail> maybe someone changed ur email
#2075 [16:04] <Kealper> 1 sec lemme try
#2076 [16:04] <Xaviergmail> keilogged
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#2078 [16:04] <Xaviergmail> no xmas update? :(
#2079 [16:04] <Kealper> Monkee: it just sent me an email for mine
#2080 [16:04] <Kealper> are you sure you used the correct email?
#2081 [16:05] <Monkee> thats what im wondering here
#2082 [16:05] <Monkee> do i have the right email in my account
#2083 [16:05] <Monkee> cause i cant see any minecraft emails in any of my email accounts
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#2085 [16:05] <Xaviergmail> O_o
#2086 [16:05] <Kealper> because i got the email literally 5 sec after pressing the button to send it...so...make sure to check your spam boxes aswell
#2087 [16:05] <Xaviergmail> now that is a problem
#2088 [16:06] <Xaviergmail> there isnt any email confirmation
#2089 [16:07] <mbentley> ah so he could have easily misspelled his email address
#2090 [16:07] <Kealper> that would have sucked..
#2091 [16:07] <Xaviergmail> mbentley
#2092 [16:07] <Xaviergmail> uh
#2093 [16:07] <Xaviergmail> i mean monkee
#2094 [16:07] * Kealper wanders off for a few minutes
#2094 [16:07] <Xaviergmail> I think it sends ti to the paypal's email
#2095 [16:08] <Monkee> yeah theres nothing there
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#2097 [16:08] <Monkee> if it was in the spam its gone
#2098 [16:08] <Xaviergmail> my minecraft's laggy
#2099 [16:08] <Xaviergmail> :(
#2100 [16:08] <Van889> since when does this problem exist? i payed for the game but atm i cannot play /download the game
#2101 [16:09] <lemon-rev> can gou get to minecraft.net
#2102 [16:09] <lemon-rev> ?
#2103 [16:10] <Van889> yes i can
#2104 [16:10] <lemon-rev> hm
#2105 [16:11] <lemon-rev> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2106 [16:11] <Xaviergmail> van889 what username did you register with
#2107 [16:11] * peru_ is now known as perunio
#2108 [16:11] <perunio> !paid me
#2109 [16:11] <Kealper> lol
#2110 [16:11] <Xaviergmail> !paid Van889
#2111 [16:12] <Xaviergmail> !paid me
#2112 [16:12] <Kealper> hmm....i wonder if 10 sec is a bit too long of a wait
#2113 [16:12] <Xaviergmail> yes it is
#2114 [16:12] * Kealper sets it down to 5 sec
#2114 [16:12] <Xaviergmail> !paid Van889
#2115 [16:12] <Xaviergmail> ^
#2116 [16:12] <mbentley> assuming that is the name used to register...
#2117 [16:13] <Xaviergmail> ^
#2118 [16:13] <Xaviergmail> Van889: what username did you register with
#2119 [16:13] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2120 [16:14] <Xaviergmail> !unload mod_mchelp
#2121 [16:14] <Kealper> it only listens to me :P
#2122 [16:14] <Xaviergmail> -_-
#2123 [16:14] <Xaviergmail> premium help
#2124 [16:14] <Xaviergmail> u didnt make it
#2125 [16:14] <Xaviergmail> >.<
#2126 [16:14] <Kealper> lolwut
#2127 [16:14] <Xaviergmail> the aytoanswertopremium
#2128 [16:15] <mbentley> !payment
#2129 [16:15] <jenny> merry christmas
#2130 [16:15] <mbentley> !premium
#2131 [16:15] <mbentley> !premium
#2132 [16:15] <mbentley> !premium
#2133 [16:15] <mbentley> must've removed that one?
#2134 [16:15] <mbentley> heh
#2135 [16:15] <Kealper> merry christmas to you too, jenny, but it's only the 24th here :P
#2136 [16:15] <Kealper> yea mbentley
#2137 [16:15] <Xaviergmail> make it so it says it might take up to 24 hours
#2138 [16:15] <jenny> in germany we celebrate christmas on the 24th
#2139 [16:16] <Xaviergmail> cause mine was instant
#2140 [16:16] <Monkee> 24th is christmas
#2141 [16:16] <lemon-rev> o today is xmas :P
#2142 [16:16] <Kealper> Xaviergmail: as was mine and every one of my friends', but we all bought it before all these super massive buying speed things picked up
#2143 [16:17] <Xaviergmail> XD
#2144 [16:17] <Xaviergmail> i bought it on 19th
#2145 [16:17] <Xaviergmail> :o
#2146 [16:17] <Kealper> like i think when i bought it, there was only like 250 other people who bought it in the last 24 hours before me lol
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#2148 [16:19] <Kealper> hmm...decent..in the last 24 hours, on average there has been one purchase every 20 sec
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#2150 [16:19] <Kealper> and 2 more people bought it while i calculated that :P
#2151 [16:20] <Tunc> Can anyone connect to the 98.44.148.171:25565 server
#2152 [16:20] <Tunc> making sure
#2153 [16:20] <Tunc> huh please someone answer
#2154 [16:20] <Kealper> !check 98.44.148.171
#2155 [16:20] <mbentley> patience ;)
#2156 [16:20] <Kealper> the force is not strong with this one
#2157 [16:20] <Tunc> DDDD:
#2158 [16:20] <Kealper> the force has failed this one
#2159 [16:20] <mbentley> MAN DOWN!
#2160 [16:21] <Tunc> it worked before so it means it's down because my port was alright before and didn't changed it
#2161 [16:21] <Kealper> your internal ip might have changed
#2162 [16:21] <Kealper> so the port forward might now be pointing at a non-existant computer
#2163 [16:21] <Tunc> hm
#2164 [16:22] <Tunc> but can you connect to the server please try
#2165 [16:22] <Tunc> I don't want to bother with me IP and stuff huh just please try
#2166 [16:22] <Kealper> can't connect
#2167 [16:23] <Tunc> okay it2s down thenn
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#2170 [16:26] <Storm> ello
#2171 [16:26] <Kealper> ello
#2172 [16:27] <Kealper> and omg i just noticed something
#2173 [16:27] <Storm> I cant log in to minecraft, ive already sent e-mails to markus@mojang.com and payment@mojang .com with my info and problem, is there anything else i can do?
#2174 [16:27] <Kealper> going underwater actually distorts the angle of stuff
#2175 [16:27] <Kealper> !payment
#2176 [16:28] <Storm> no no, i read that, i bought the game the 17'th
#2177 [16:28] <Kealper> O.o
#2178 [16:28] <Storm> oh wait thats a bot....
#2179 [16:28] <Kealper> and it still has not gone though?
#2180 [16:28] <Storm> heh
#2181 [16:28] <Storm> no it went throught before
#2182 [16:29] <Storm> i just havent logged in since the 19'th so i can keep mods working
#2183 [16:29] <Kealper> and when you tried to log in today, it did not work?
#2184 [16:29] <Storm> Most are updated now so im trying to upgrade but i cant loggin anymore
#2185 [16:29] <Storm> yes
#2186 [16:29] <Kealper> what does it tell you?
#2187 [16:29] <Kealper> when you go to log in
#2188 [16:30] <Storm> my password wont work, any of them, and when i try to reset it i dont get the e-mail
#2189 [16:30] <Kealper> woh...another case like this..
#2190 [16:30] <Kealper> we just had someone in here earlier with the same issue....
#2191 [16:31] <Monkee> wohoo im not the only one today either
#2192 [16:31] <Storm> hmmm... maybe its something to do with the loggin proccess, if you only log in a few times it must remove you from the database
#2193 [16:31] <Kealper> my conclusion is that you typed your email wrong when you first made your account
#2194 [16:31] <Kealper> and no, they don't prune accounts
#2195 [16:31] <Storm> so its not bulked up w/ people who arent updating
#2196 [16:31] <Kealper> especially not ones that paid
#2197 [16:32] <Storm> well i got the conformation e-mail w/ my transaction number
#2198 [16:33] <Kealper> hmm...and you tried both your username and your email for trying to recover your password?
#2199 [16:33] <Monkee> Storm does it send the email to the paypla email or is there another email address?
#2200 [16:33] <Storm> yes, username works, but i dont get the e-mail, and my e-mail is not recognized
#2201 [16:33] <Storm> I didnt use paypal
#2202 [16:33] <Monkee> exactly the same as me then
#2203 [16:33] <Monkee> well i used paypal
#2204 [16:34] <Storm> so i guess that doesnt change things
#2205 [16:34] <Kealper> hmm...my only guess is that you got the email wrong when registering, and that site is set up to send it to the email you registered with and not the email you used for paypal
#2206 [16:34] <Monkee> and i still cant try to get a new email since it says an email was recently sent
#2207 [16:35] <Storm> yea same
#2208 [16:35] <Monkee> if you search the forums there are a lot of cases like this
#2209 [16:35] <Storm> i actually noticed this like 12 hrs ago and so ive tried the e-mail twice
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#2211 [16:35] <Kealper> :/
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#2213 [16:36] <Kealper> how long ago did you send the email to mojang?
#2214 [16:36] <framedrop> Can you change your username?
#2215 [16:36] <xales> framedrop: on IRC or for minecraft?
#2216 [16:36] <framedrop> minecraft
#2217 [16:36] <Kealper> no
#2218 [16:36] <xales> nope, sorry
#2219 [16:36] <Storm> 12 hrs ago
#2220 [16:36] <xales> Storm: they arent working today I believe
#2221 [16:36] <Tsooj> oh lol was just about to ask about when my account gets activated but noticed the note :p damn
#2222 [16:36] <xales> wait a little longer
#2223 [16:37] <Kealper> Storm: well, it could take them a few days to answer it, since it is xmas eve
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#2225 [16:37] <Storm> true
#2226 [16:37] <xales> it shouldnt be more than 2 days
#2227 [16:37] <Storm> oh well good thing i backed up my 1.2.6
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#2229 [16:39] <framedrop> can you get banned for having a username that is meaby offesive for someone?
#2230 [16:39] <xales> doubtful
#2231 [16:39] <xales> but possibly
#2232 [16:39] <xales> you can get banned by server admins
#2233 [16:39] <framedrop> Ok
#2234 [16:39] <xales> Mojang wont delete your account though
#2235 [16:39] <framedrop> Ok
#2236 [16:40] <framedrop> Anyone knows a good IP for a server that works with beta?
#2237 [16:41] <Kealper> uhh
#2238 [16:41] <Kealper> mine is a good server that runs beta...but it's not populated much
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#2240 [16:42] <framedrop> ok
#2241 [16:42] <xales> framedrop, almost all work with beta
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#2243 [16:42] <xales> because there isnt a way to run alpha without doing dumb things
#2244 [16:42] <Apocolyptica> Okay, I need mucho help.
#2245 [16:42] <xales> Apocolyptica: ask away
#2246 [16:43] <framedrop> It says outdated server
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#2250 [16:46] <captainmohawk> hello
#2251 [16:46] <xales> hello
#2252 [16:46] <captainmohawk> sorry i was just wondering if i could get some help
#2253 [16:47] <Kealper> ask, and thou shalt recieve
#2254 [16:47] <captainmohawk> i bought the minecraft game and paid for it with paypal, but now when i go on the minecraft site and try to play online it says i need to purchase the premium account or something
#2255 [16:47] <captainmohawk> what do i need to do>?
#2256 [16:47] <Kealper> !payment
#2257 [16:48] <captainmohawk> oh ok thanks very much
#2258 [16:48] <captainmohawk> have a good day sir
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#2262 [16:53] <WienerWuerstel> hi
#2263 [16:53] <xales> hello
#2264 [16:53] <WienerWuerstel> it's me again
#2265 [16:53] <WienerWuerstel> I got a Problem with the Minecraft Server. Port is opened and Firewall is okay but it gives me that error...
#2266 [16:54] <Kealper> "that error" a bit more specific please? lol
#2267 [16:54] <WienerWuerstel> 2010-12-24 22:51:11 [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on 80.108.16.192:25565
#2268 [16:54] <WienerWuerstel> 2010-12-24 22:51:11 [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#2269 [16:54] <Kealper> in your server.properties file
#2270 [16:54] <Kealper> remove the ip from server-ip=
#2271 [16:54] <Kealper> leave that blank
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#2273 [16:56] <WienerWuerstel> I could punch myself again
#2274 [16:56] <WienerWuerstel> It worked Kealper
#2275 [16:56] <Kealper> :P
#2276 [16:56] <WienerWuerstel> Thank You very much
#2277 [16:56] <Kealper> np, it's what i'm here for :P
#2278 [16:56] <WienerWuerstel> The funny thing is that i'm a Linux User
#2279 [16:57] <WienerWuerstel> Which makes the fail even harder :P
#2280 [16:57] <Kealper> XD
#2281 [16:57] <WienerWuerstel> I google the peep out of this for hours
#2282 [16:57] <WienerWuerstel> And just something as simple as that helped
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#2284 [16:57] * Kealper jams out to a Cat record he just got from a creeper
#2284 [16:58] <WienerWuerstel> Saw a Video 2 Days ago where 2 Cats got killed in a Bag :(
#2285 [16:58] <Kealper> o.o
#2286 [16:58] <WienerWuerstel> That was just horrible to watch
#2287 [16:59] <WienerWuerstel> He put thos Cats in the Bag
#2288 [16:59] <WienerWuerstel> And the pulled the Air out of the Bag
#2289 [16:59] <WienerWuerstel> So cruel
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#2291 [16:59] <WienerWuerstel> btw...
#2292 [17:00] <WienerWuerstel> 2010-12-24 22:56:36 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
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#2294 [17:00] <Kealper> ignore it, everyone gets it
#2295 [17:00] <Wahrheit> happens
#2296 [17:00] <WienerWuerstel> Does that mean my Hardware is too weak?
#2297 [17:00] <WienerWuerstel> Hi Wahrheit
#2298 [17:00] <WienerWuerstel> Thanks
#2299 [17:00] <WienerWuerstel> Thought a Dual Atom Nettop was too slow to handle the Minecraft Server
#2300 [17:01] <xales> it probably is :/
#2301 [17:01] <xales> if you have many people on
#2302 [17:01] <xales> and its generating the world
#2303 [17:01] <LadyCygna> my amd64 3800+ dual core is too slow for the server even for connecting on LAN with anther computer..
#2304 [17:01] <WienerWuerstel> np still got a laptop laying around somewhere :P
#2305 [17:01] <WienerWuerstel> O_O
#2306 [17:02] <LadyCygna> but the server seems to have improved in the last update
#2307 [17:02] <LadyCygna> so I'll have to try it
#2308 [17:02] <Kealper> LadyCygna: you could host a minecraft server on RoadRunner (IBM supercomputer) and it would still stay that warning
#2309 [17:02] <WienerWuerstel> And I don't want to use my strong PC because it eats Energy up like a Monster :P
#2310 [17:02] <LadyCygna> no, it's not just the warning
#2311 [17:03] <LadyCygna> it's seeing the map transparent and caves at the bottom for example
#2312 [17:03] <LadyCygna> and waiting several minutes for it to render that
#2313 [17:03] <LadyCygna> it's probably also because of ram, I have only 1 gb
#2314 [17:03] <WienerWuerstel> Me too
#2315 [17:03] <Kealper> that is most definately it
#2316 [17:03] <WienerWuerstel> On that Nettop
#2317 [17:03] <WienerWuerstel> Main PC is 4GB
#2318 [17:03] <WienerWuerstel> Ram
#2319 [17:03] <Kealper> you are running in to page file on your servers
#2320 [17:04] <Kealper> page file = SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
#2321 [17:04] <LadyCygna> ah, by the way
#2322 [17:04] <LadyCygna> is there any way to change the login name?
#2323 [17:04] * lukegb switches to swap partition instead of page file
#2323 [17:04] <LadyCygna> without having to buy again the game :P
#2324 [17:04] <Kealper> lukegb: you linux user, you....
#2325 [17:04] <LadyCygna> I had the same problem with swap partition..
#2326 [17:04] <Kealper> no LadyCygna
#2327 [17:05] <lukegb> It's slow anyway
#2328 [17:05] <lukegb> It's minecraft
#2329 [17:05] <LadyCygna> :/
#2330 [17:05] <Kealper> swap and page file are the same things
#2331 [17:05] <LadyCygna> Kealper, a swap partition should be a little faster
#2332 [17:05] <lukegb> Swap partitions are faster
#2333 [17:05] <lukegb> No filesystem overhead
#2334 [17:05] <Kealper> implemented a bit differently, but they are both methods for using hdd as ram
#2335 [17:05] <LadyCygna> but nothing compared to real RAM
#2336 [17:05] <lukegb> ^
#2337 [17:06] <lukegb> I like the idea of completely stressing and misusing SSDs and using them as swapspace
#2338 [17:06] <WienerWuerstel> And now I can't connect lol
#2339 [17:06] <LadyCygna> I like killing flash memories too..
#2340 [17:06] <Kealper> lol
#2341 [17:06] <LadyCygna> I have never seen a flash-based thing that lasted for more than two years with a normal use
#2342 [17:07] * Kealper sighs
#2342 [17:07] <LadyCygna> and I have seen mechanic HDDs lasting for 15 years :P
#2343 [17:07] <WienerWuerstel> http://pastebin.com/ZwMAeKUQ
#2344 [17:07] <Kealper> i have an old 320mb hdd with windows 3.1 on it, puppy still fires up and boots just fine :O
#2345 [17:07] <LadyCygna> I have a 1996 4gb HD
#2346 [17:08] <LadyCygna> installed windows 2000 in it
#2347 [17:08] <LadyCygna> and it rocks
#2348 [17:08] <LadyCygna> :P
#2349 [17:08] <Kealper> lol
#2350 [17:08] <lukegb> Kealper: the difference between you and my grandpa is my grandpa still actively uses it :P
#2351 [17:08] <Kealper> lukegb: ohgod
#2352 [17:08] <LadyCygna> I use it daily
#2353 [17:08] <lukegb> Kealper: it's his primary OS. Don't diss :P
#2354 [17:09] <Kealper> windows 3.1 is the devil...if you sneezed without letting it know first it'll crash -.-
#2355 [17:09] <lukegb> pft
#2356 [17:09] <lukegb> at least windows 95 shutsdown quickly
#2357 [17:09] <Kealper> lol
#2358 [17:09] <LadyCygna> mmm
#2359 [17:09] <Kealper> well...i'm off for probably 5+ hours....xmas eve with the family ftl
#2360 [17:09] <LadyCygna> I would try using at least NT4 SP6
#2361 [17:10] <LadyCygna> that should work more or less like win2k, and you can use a modern browser (opera 10.63)
#2362 [17:10] <LadyCygna> without flash of course
#2363 [17:10] <LadyCygna> :P
#2364 [17:10] <LadyCygna> or firefox 2.0.0.x
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#2366 [17:10] <LadyCygna> opera 11 is the first release of opera that doesn't work on nt4 :(
#2367 [17:11] <LadyCygna> but probably works in winME... I will NOT test that, of course
#2368 [17:11] <LadyCygna> :P
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#2370 [17:16] <WienerWuerstel> Can somebody please connect on my Server?
#2371 [17:16] <WienerWuerstel> 80.108.16.192
#2372 [17:17] <WienerWuerstel> Should be the IP
#2373 [17:17] <WienerWuerstel> Just want to make sure if it works
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#2375 [17:22] <Coll> hey guys
#2376 [17:22] <Coll> thanks for telling me about changing the channel on my router
#2377 [17:22] <Coll> computer connects to it perfectly now
#2378 [17:22] <xales> !payment
#2379 [17:23] <xales> sorry, needed it for #minecraft ;(
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#2383 [17:28] <WienerWuerstel> thx for testing btw
#2384 [17:28] <WienerWuerstel> Mister lemonrev ;)
#2385 [17:29] <WienerWuerstel> So it seems that others can connect but not I
#2386 [17:29] <lemon-rev> np
#2387 [17:30] <lemon-rev> seems strage
#2388 [17:30] <lemon-rev> what os you on again ? linux
#2389 [17:30] <LadyCygna> hm
#2390 [17:30] <WienerWuerstel> yep
#2391 [17:31] <lemon-rev> there an exe for linux ?
#2392 [17:31] <LadyCygna> I can't start minecraft in my laptop since the last beta update, black screen... I had never that problem with alpha, anyone with the same problem?
#2393 [17:31] <WienerWuerstel> Ubuntu 10.10 to be exact
#2394 [17:31] <LadyCygna> lemon-rev, it's java
#2395 [17:31] <LadyCygna> you launch the .jar
#2396 [17:31] <LadyCygna> you can do it in windows too
#2397 [17:31] <lemon-rev> well why does it seem that wiener < cant get himself on there wich is wired
#2398 [17:31] <LadyCygna> java -jar Minecraft.jar -some parameters for limiting the memory usage..
#2399 [17:32] <WienerWuerstel> Well it works but only for everyone else. I can't connect
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#2401 [17:32] <lemon-rev> what it do if you try to connect
#2402 [17:33] <WienerWuerstel> lemon-rev, http://pastebin.com/ZwMAeKUQ
#2403 [17:33] <WienerWuerstel> That's what my Server spits out
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#2405 [17:33] <WienerWuerstel> And the Client gets a "too long to connect" Error
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#2407 [17:34] <lemon-rev> that ip is your router
#2408 [17:34] <lemon-rev> 192.168.1.1
#2409 [17:34] <lemon-rev> lol
#2410 [17:35] <WienerWuerstel> yep i know
#2411 [17:35] <drmik3y> anyone know if you need to open any ports for minecraft? i'm at my parents and when i load minecraft it stops at the updating screen and says Done Loading, but then doesn't go any further
#2412 [17:35] <lemon-rev> have you allowd 55751 on your port forwarding could case
#2413 [17:35] <lemon-rev> ?
#2414 [17:35] <drmik3y> hah is someone asking the same thing?
#2415 [17:35] <WienerWuerstel> I try that
#2416 [17:35] <lemon-rev> 22567 < drmik3y yes you prob need port forwarding on router if you have one
#2417 [17:36] <drmik3y> rgr thanks lemon
#2418 [17:36] <drmik3y> now to figure out the router password hehe
#2419 [17:36] <lemon-rev> lol
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#2423 [17:39] <WienerWuerstel> still derps after opening the port on 101. can't open it on 192.168.1.1
#2424 [17:41] <WienerWuerstel> And why is my IP even 192.168.1.1?
#2425 [17:41] <drmik3y> it's not
#2426 [17:41] <drmik3y> that is your routers config
#2427 [17:42] <drmik3y> if you goto start menu, then click Run....
#2428 [17:42] <WienerWuerstel> Thanks Watson
#2429 [17:42] <drmik3y> then type cmd
#2430 [17:42] <drmik3y> and type ipconfig
#2431 [17:42] <WienerWuerstel> No Windows
#2432 [17:42] <lemon-rev> http://vaevictus.net/minecraft/ < that should tell your ip
#2433 [17:42] <drmik3y> oh rgr that
#2434 [17:42] <WienerWuerstel> And I know my IP
#2435 [17:42] <WienerWuerstel> Local and Internetz too ;)
#2436 [17:43] <lemon-rev> hum
#2437 [17:43] <lemon-rev> then someting is misguided in your router
#2438 [17:43] <xales> !payment
#2439 [17:43] <WienerWuerstel> lemon-rev, the test worked btw
#2440 [17:45] <WienerWuerstel> I think the Problem is that it trys to connect "locally" even tough I want to connect over the Internet with my IP and not the Router's IP
#2441 [17:45] <WienerWuerstel> That's what I think right now at least
#2442 [17:46] <lemon-rev> well i know its connecting with your router ip and yes i think thats the hick up
#2443 [17:46] <WienerWuerstel> There is only a dirty fix that I could apply...
#2444 [17:47] <WienerWuerstel> And that would be not using the Router lol
#2445 [17:47] <lemon-rev> lol,
#2446 [17:47] <lemon-rev> true
#2447 [17:47] <WienerWuerstel> I try connoceting over Wifi with my Lappy
#2448 [17:47] <lemon-rev> well either that or reset router and figure out where it went wrong
#2449 [17:47] <WienerWuerstel> *connecting
#2450 [17:47] <lemon-rev> k
#2451 [17:49] <drmik3y> hm, i tried that link you sent lemon, forwarded both tcp and udp ports but still getting no response
#2452 [17:49] <lemon-rev> hum
#2453 [17:49] <lemon-rev> wired
#2454 [17:49] <WienerWuerstel> btw
#2455 [17:49] <WienerWuerstel> synergy ftw :P
#2456 [17:49] <lemon-rev> your linking it up with your interal ip
#2457 [17:49] <lemon-rev> i goto go
#2458 [17:49] <lemon-rev> sorry
#2459 [17:49] <lemon-rev> laters
#2460 [17:50] <WienerWuerstel> cya and thx again lemon-rev
#2461 [17:50] <drmik3y> thx lem
#2462 [17:50] <drmik3y> this sucks haha
#2463 [17:50] <WienerWuerstel> yep
#2464 [17:50] <drmik3y> stuck at parents for the weekend with no minecraft!
#2465 [17:50] <WienerWuerstel> :P
#2466 [17:51] <drmik3y> about all i can do is watch my servers backend to see what other people are doing =/ hah
#2467 [17:51] <WienerWuerstel> Well it's still Beta Software ;)
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#2470 [17:52] <drmik3y> yeah and i'm able to get on at work and home so 2/3 ain't bad i suppose
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#2472 [17:53] <WienerWuerstel> the good thing for me is that others can still connect to the server
#2473 [17:53] <WienerWuerstel> i don't want to play that hard on it anyways
#2474 [17:53] <WienerWuerstel> but it's still nagging me that it doesn't work
#2475 [17:54] <WienerWuerstel> lol
#2476 [17:54] <WienerWuerstel> works fie over wifi
#2477 [17:54] <WienerWuerstel> *fine
#2478 [17:55] <WienerWuerstel> connecting only to get ra*ed by Monsters :(
#2479 [17:56] <WienerWuerstel> Die Monster! You don't belong in this World
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#2482 [17:56] <WienerWuerstel> Everyone that knows from which Game that is gets a Cookie :P
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#2484 [17:57] <drmik3y> unfortunately not
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#2487 [17:57] <drmik3y> i'm on wifi now, might try hooking up directly and see if that works
#2488 [17:58] <WienerWuerstel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAnC8xrdmgM
#2489 [17:58] <WienerWuerstel> drmik3y, worked for me. i'm rooting for you
#2490 [17:59] <WienerWuerstel> Symphony of the Night was the correct Answer btw
#2491 [17:59] <WienerWuerstel> And something just exploded on me
#2492 [17:59] <drmik3y> haha nice, that was a good game
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#2495 [18:01] <mib_esrjfn> "just sit tight for a day or so"? i've been waiting for 3 days -_-...... still aint premium LOL anyone know when it will get fixed or just sit here and watch paint dry?..
#2496 [18:01] <WienerWuerstel> mib_esrjfn, you could play some hib games :P
#2497 [18:02] <mib_esrjfn> hib games? :P
#2498 [18:02] <mib_esrjfn> whats hib games lol
#2499 [18:02] <WienerWuerstel> mib_esrjfn, humble indie bundle
#2500 [18:02] <mib_esrjfn> wha..?
#2501 [18:02] <mib_esrjfn> construction, strategy or what?
#2502 [18:02] <WienerWuerstel> ?
#2503 [18:02] <WienerWuerstel> OMG!
#2504 [18:02] <mib_esrjfn> LMFAO
#2505 [18:03] <WienerWuerstel> mib_esrjfn, http://www.humblebundle.com/
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#2507 [18:03] <WienerWuerstel> Pay what you want Indie Games
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#2509 [18:03] <WienerWuerstel> You help Charity and Indie Dev's
#2510 [18:04] <drmik3y> yeah heard those are some great games too
#2511 [18:04] <mib_esrjfn> uhhh
#2512 [18:04] <drmik3y> haven't grabbed it yet cause i'm broke and want to give more than 5 bucks haha
#2513 [18:04] <mib_esrjfn> i guess..
#2514 [18:04] <WienerWuerstel> Braid alone is worth the Buy :D
#2515 [18:05] <WienerWuerstel> The Server is not that heavy as I thought. Only uses 42mb right now :P
#2516 [18:05] <WienerWuerstel> But no Players on it lol
#2517 [18:05] <DS> Im having a problem. When I press login to login, the game crashes and creates a java error text file
#2518 [18:06] <xales> DS: paste the contents of the error on
#2519 [18:06] <xales> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com
#2520 [18:06] <xales> and give us the link
#2521 [18:06] <WienerWuerstel> pastebin ftw
#2522 [18:06] <WienerWuerstel> and synergy ftw :P
#2523 [18:06] <mib_esrjfn> dude im about to dig myself down lol..
#2524 [18:07] <DS> ok
#2525 [18:07] <DS> http://pastebin.com/x3LbjSq0
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#2528 [18:08] <mib_esrjfn> thats an pretty awesome error u got there mate..
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#2530 [18:08] <DS> how do i fix it
#2531 [18:08] <SDiablo{GT}> hi, some new about the damn accout premium shit?1
#2532 [18:09] <SDiablo{GT}> new=news
#2533 [18:09] <WienerWuerstel> Nice one DS
#2534 [18:09] <mib_esrjfn> um
#2535 [18:09] <mib_esrjfn> Sdiablo.... i got the same problem..
#2536 [18:09] <mib_esrjfn> have waited 3 day
#2537 [18:09] <mib_esrjfn> still nothing
#2538 [18:09] <mib_esrjfn> so..
#2539 [18:09] <mib_esrjfn> guess we gotta wait for paypal to hurry their asses up..
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#2541 [18:10] <WienerWuerstel> SDiablo{GT}, Have you tried turning it off and on Sir?
#2542 [18:10] <WienerWuerstel> SDiablo{GT}, jk btw ;)
#2543 [18:10] <SDiablo{GT}> enough
#2544 [18:10] <mib_esrjfn> sending emails to notch is useless hes sitting their with sh*tloads of emails..
#2545 [18:10] <mib_esrjfn> so..
#2546 [18:10] <drmik3y> lol it crowd
#2547 [18:10] <peru_> i have interesting error... mine cart 'merged' with cobblestone http://img269.imageshack.us/i/erroxz.jpg/
#2548 [18:10] <WienerWuerstel> I don't want to be him right now (notch)
#2549 [18:11] <SDiablo{GT}> i wait 2 days and send email with every information to activate my account manual..but nothing xD
#2550 [18:11] <drmik3y> i would
#2551 [18:11] <mib_esrjfn> yeah poor guy getting spammed of angry people
#2552 [18:11] <WienerWuerstel> All the Noobs and Kiddies spamming his Mail Account and Twitter ;)
#2553 [18:11] <drmik3y> i'd deal with all those emails for having such a solid game
#2554 [18:11] <drmik3y> even if it is buggy
#2555 [18:11] <drmik3y> hehe
#2556 [18:12] <mib_esrjfn> belive me
#2557 [18:12] <mib_esrjfn> u would get tierd
#2558 [18:12] <WienerWuerstel> The Singleplayer is not that buggy but the Multiplayer....
#2559 [18:12] <mib_esrjfn> reading peoples emails of telling him tey'll rage-quit their life if he dont fix it...
#2560 [18:12] <mib_esrjfn> poor man..
#2561 [18:12] <drmik3y> oh yea single is fine for the most part
#2562 [18:12] <WienerWuerstel> needs some work ;)
#2563 [18:12] <drmik3y> haha indeed
#2564 [18:12] <drmik3y> still tons of fun tho
#2565 [18:12] <mib_esrjfn> porobably lol
#2566 [18:12] <mib_esrjfn> probably*
#2567 [18:12] <WienerWuerstel> dito mib_esrjfn
#2568 [18:13] <WienerWuerstel> Only played 5 Minutes online xD
#2569 [18:13] <mib_esrjfn> like..
#2570 [18:13] <WienerWuerstel> And then the Server decided to have Christmas a little bit early
#2571 [18:13] <drmik3y> oh really?
#2572 [18:13] <WienerWuerstel> Not mine btw
#2573 [18:14] <WienerWuerstel> holarse server
#2574 [18:14] <drmik3y> did you not have a server up during alpha?
#2575 [18:14] <mib_esrjfn> when notch have earned that much money from a game that he coded i think he should listen to hes players, but still gotta be a pretty hard job to read all those emails, fix buggs. reading more emails etc etc...
#2576 [18:14] <drmik3y> i'm using MyMCServ as my host, they are fairly good
#2577 [18:14] <drmik3y> some downtime, but not too terrible
#2578 [18:14] <WienerWuerstel> Only have Minecraft since 7 Days or so drmik3y
#2579 [18:14] <WienerWuerstel> Still a Noob pretty much
#2580 [18:14] <drmik3y> oh rgr, well at least you got in before beta :)
#2581 [18:15] <WienerWuerstel> But at least I got my Server now running after 2 Days Rage and Google searching
#2582 [18:15] <mib_esrjfn> yeah be happy that u got minecraft at all lol
#2583 [18:15] <drmik3y> you running it on your own comp?
#2584 [18:15] <WienerWuerstel> I am a happy Camper :D
#2585 [18:15] <WienerWuerstel> drmik3y, Yep. Just for the lulz
#2586 [18:15] <drmik3y> nice
#2587 [18:16] <WienerWuerstel> The real Reason is that I want to run it for twil
#2588 [18:16] <mib_esrjfn> bleh... bought premium for 2 accounts the same day beta came out 20'th december. -_____-
#2589 [18:16] <WienerWuerstel> Nice Community there and some like Minecraft
#2590 [18:17] <drmik3y> twil?
#2591 [18:17] <mib_esrjfn> yeah community and the support is really good...
#2592 [18:17] <WienerWuerstel> drmik3y, this week in linux
#2593 [18:17] <xales> !payment
#2594 [18:18] <WienerWuerstel> http://www.youtube.com/user/thisweekinlinux
#2595 [18:18] <mib_esrjfn> ok i was at chatroulette now just for fun... i was there for 10 mins and i probably saw like 40 d*cks LOL
#2596 [18:18] <mib_esrjfn> soo..
#2597 [18:18] <WienerWuerstel> Sorry for the Plug there
#2598 [18:18] <mib_esrjfn> i'm never doing tat again -.-
#2599 [18:18] <drmik3y> mmmm chatroullete dicks
#2600 [18:18] <mib_esrjfn> EWWW
#2601 [18:18] <drmik3y> lol
#2602 [18:18] <mib_esrjfn> fking hell some old dirty bastards sitting there wanking like it was the last day on earth!
#2603 [18:19] <mib_esrjfn> EW.
#2604 [18:19] <WienerWuerstel> Or just a normal Night in Thailand
#2605 [18:19] <mib_esrjfn> LMFAO.
#2606 [18:19] <WienerWuerstel> Traps everywhere :(
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#2608 [18:20] <kalnos> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/mojang_check_paypal_i_got_scammed
#2609 [18:20] <kalnos> Hello
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#2611 [18:20] <kalnos> Support our cause please?
#2612 [18:21] <WienerWuerstel> Well it doesn't hurt me
#2613 [18:21] <WienerWuerstel> So yes
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#2615 [18:21] <xales> kalnos: ?
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#2617 [18:21] <kalnos> xales,its a complaint about how purchasing codes work.
#2618 [18:22] <kalnos> Its been over 24h,we have mailed to payment@blabla.
#2619 [18:22] <xales> they arent in the office
#2620 [18:22] <xales> its xmas
#2621 [18:22] <kalnos> This is awful customer service.
#2622 [18:22] <xales> theres nothing anyone can do
#2623 [18:22] <kalnos> They are
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#2625 [18:22] <xales> actually, they are not
#2626 [18:22] <kalnos> A company worker is spamming the same thing.
#2627 [18:22] <xales> kalnos: he doesnt work for them
#2628 [18:22] <xales> its community support
#2629 [18:22] <WienerWuerstel> "awful customer service"?
#2630 [18:22] <WienerWuerstel> lmao
#2631 [18:22] <kalnos> Why is he stalling us saying the same thing over and over?
#2632 [18:23] <xales> kalnos: what else should he do
#2633 [18:23] <xales> they arent working, because it is a holiday
#2634 [18:23] <xales> if you are patient and wait ONE DAY
#2635 [18:23] <xales> the issue will be resolved
#2636 [18:23] <WienerWuerstel> kalnos, He can't do much and it's Xmas
#2637 [18:23] <xales> stop complaining here or you will be removed from teh channel
#2638 [18:23] <mib_esrjfn> Xales.. i've waited for 3 days still nuthing LOL
#2639 [18:24] <kalnos> Oh..I thought I'd find support here.
#2640 [18:24] <kalnos> No matter,have fun.
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#2642 [18:24] <xales> why do people think _we_ can help them
#2643 [18:24] <xales> :/
#2644 [18:24] <mib_esrjfn> cuz this is a support channel?
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#2646 [18:24] <mib_esrjfn> i know like u cant fix issues that paypal is having..
#2647 [18:25] <mib_esrjfn> but
#2648 [18:25] <mib_esrjfn> when ur in a support channel to help u must expect thse questions
#2649 [18:25] <WienerWuerstel> meh...
#2650 [18:25] <fork> hm
#2651 [18:26] <WienerWuerstel> Common Sense and a Brain could help too sometimes ;)
#2652 [18:26] <mib_esrjfn> o rly?
#2653 [18:26] <WienerWuerstel> srsly!
#2654 [18:26] <mib_esrjfn> when people go nuts over a game u expect them to have common sense?..
#2655 [18:27] <WienerWuerstel> mib_esrjfn, You are so right there...
#2656 [18:27] <WienerWuerstel> sadly
#2657 [18:27] <mbentley> hard to make it clear that this isn't a channel so much for account support...
#2658 [18:27] <mib_esrjfn> nah mostly errors and stuff right?
#2659 [18:27] <nathantoombs> I bought minecraft last night for mac but i still can't play it. When I try to log in to the minecraft launcher it says I'm not a premium user and that If I play online once I will be able to play offline. However, when I try to play online in my browser, I get a button asking me to buy the game.
#2660 [18:27] <mib_esrjfn> instll problems or whatso ever?
#2661 [18:27] <mbentley> pretty much. more like software issues and gameplay questions
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#2663 [18:27] <mbentley> exactly
#2664 [18:27] <mib_esrjfn> LMAO
#2665 [18:27] <WienerWuerstel> :D
#2666 [18:28] <Coll> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=55552
#2667 [18:28] <Coll> for this
#2668 [18:28] <Coll> how many spawner floors should I put
#2669 [18:28] <mib_esrjfn> nathantoombs.... listen up.... THERES LIKE A FKING BOOK OUT THERE ABOUT THE SAME QUESTION WAIT FOR PAYPAL TO FIX IT AIGHT? i got exactly the same issue its delayed
#2670 [18:28] <Coll> and where should I put the iten deliever at
#2671 [18:28] <Coll> under the tower?
#2672 [18:29] <mib_esrjfn> umm..
#2673 [18:29] <mbentley> nathantoombs: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/mojang_check_paypal_i_got_scammed
#2674 [18:29] <mib_esrjfn> mbently... u or who made that thread didnt get scammed....
#2675 [18:30] <mib_esrjfn> seriously
#2676 [18:30] <mbentley> also http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=115401
#2677 [18:30] <mbentley> what?
#2678 [18:30] <mib_esrjfn> this is paypals issue not minecraft's its not notch's fail that people aint getting their premium..
#2679 [18:30] <mib_esrjfn> its delayed-
#2680 [18:30] <mbentley> mib_esrjfn: how can you be so sure?
#2681 [18:30] <mib_esrjfn> no reason to spam around links
#2682 [18:30] <mib_esrjfn> Because
#2683 [18:31] <mib_esrjfn> go on youtube search for minecraft if this was a scam how come so many got it?
#2684 [18:31] <mbentley> dude, i know there is no scam
#2685 [18:31] <mib_esrjfn> Good.
#2686 [18:31] <mbentley> read it. jesus christ
#2687 [18:31] <mib_esrjfn> then WHY does the title say "i got scammed"?
#2688 [18:31] <mbentley> that is about the only place i have seen anyone from mojang respond about the situation
#2689 [18:31] <mib_esrjfn> i have read it
#2690 [18:31] <mbentley> because someone else entered it
#2691 [18:31] <mbentley> i can't change it
#2692 [18:31] <mib_esrjfn> hmm
#2693 [18:32] <mib_esrjfn> but yu see..
#2694 [18:32] <mib_esrjfn> everyone of them says
#2695 [18:32] <mib_esrjfn> Please wait 24 hours after purchasing the game for your account to be activated and marked as premium. If your account is still not upgraded by then, send an e-mail to payment@mojang.com with your transaction ID and username
#2696 [18:32] <mib_esrjfn> and..
#2697 [18:32] <mib_esrjfn> still
#2698 [18:32] <mib_esrjfn> when they email
#2699 [18:32] <mib_esrjfn> nothings happening
#2700 [18:32] <mbentley> well that apparently is their official response so...
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#2702 [18:33] <mib_esrjfn> i've spent three days reading about it. people send mails, nothings happening..
#2703 [18:33] <mib_esrjfn> people spam notch about it
#2704 [18:33] <mib_esrjfn> nothings happening
#2705 [18:33] <xales> they arent around
#2706 [18:33] <xales> its xmas
#2707 [18:33] <mib_esrjfn> cant do anything else than wait..
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#2709 [18:33] <mib_esrjfn> i know
#2710 [18:33] <WienerWuerstel> And notch is just a Human btw ;)
#2711 [18:33] <mib_esrjfn> sweeden is my neighbor country.
#2712 [18:33] <xales> stop complainin in here, we are community volunteers and can do nothing to help
#2713 [18:34] <mib_esrjfn> its christmas here and the clock is the same here as in sweeden its 2 hours away
#2714 [18:34] <WienerWuerstel> They only geat Bread and Water so don't be so hard on them ;)
#2715 [18:34] <mib_esrjfn> hahahah
#2716 [18:34] <mib_esrjfn> xD
#2717 [18:34] <LordShagrax> hello, i have an issue with my computer cutting all network connection when a player joins my server... its a standard minecraft server, running on windows xp, with 2gb ram
#2718 [18:34] <WienerWuerstel> *get
#2719 [18:35] <xales> LordShagrax: firewall
#2720 [18:35] <Wahrheit> Open ports too
#2721 [18:35] <xales> also, it could be that you have enough ram on the system, but not enough is free for minecraft to use
#2722 [18:35] <xales> Wahrheit: he wouldnt get timeouts unless ports were fine
#2723 [18:35] <LordShagrax> well the xp comp doesnt have firewall
#2724 [18:35] <mib_esrjfn> well
#2725 [18:36] <fork> so this issue about people who just bought the game
#2726 [18:36] <fork> what all is going on?
#2727 [18:36] <mib_esrjfn> im outa here mery x-mas people..
#2728 [18:36] <Storm> no
#2729 [18:36] <LordShagrax> it is pathed through a router, and the ports are open on the router
#2730 [18:36] <Storm> i bought the game the 17th i have the same problem
#2731 [18:36] <Wahrheit> allow me to explain the paypal situation
#2732 [18:36] <peru_> i have interesting error... mine cart 'merged' with cobblestone http://img269.imageshack.us/i/erroxz.jpg/
#2733 [18:36] <Storm> i didnt use paypal
#2734 [18:36] <Wahrheit> Fine, whatever
#2735 [18:36] <Wahrheit> Licensing in general
#2736 [18:36] <mib_esrjfn> if u used paycheks or whatever storm then it'll take longer.
#2737 [18:36] <Wahrheit> Think of the license server like a diaper
#2738 [18:36] <Storm> im just saying that those things are not the only isssues
#2739 [18:37] <Wahrheit> It gets flooded with licenses all at once
#2740 [18:37] <Wahrheit> But it can't handle that
#2741 [18:37] <Wahrheit> so it needs to take time to absorb and process
#2742 [18:37] <Storm> i was able tyo login before it just doesnt work now
#2743 [18:37] <Wahrheit> then email notch
#2744 [18:37] <Storm> i did
#2745 [18:37] <Wahrheit> Do you see notch in the user list?
#2746 [18:37] <Wahrheit> No?
#2747 [18:37] <Wahrheit> Then he is not here and that's all you can do.
#2748 [18:37] <xales> they are not in the office today
#2749 [18:37] <xales> they will get back to you when they can
#2750 [18:37] <xales> they will be pretty flooded by now, so it may take a while
#2751 [18:38] <LordShagrax> oh well ill just try to save up cash to build myself a new server that can handle minecraft
#2752 [18:38] <Wahrheit> Shagrax
#2753 [18:38] <xales> LordShagrax: its easier to rent one, and cheaper
#2754 [18:38] <Storm> I know, im just saying that its not just paypal or people who just bought the game
#2755 [18:38] <Wahrheit> I can link you to a server that's 7 bucks a month with 2gb dedicated and an extra 2gb burst RAM
#2756 [18:38] <xales> most home connections cant and wont let you run a server anyway
#2757 [18:38] <Wahrheit> It's what I'm using and it's great :)
#2758 [18:38] <LordShagrax> i need to get it local, to have my torrent client, irc client and other stuff :)
#2759 [18:38] <Wahrheit> It's a VPS LOL
#2760 [18:39] <Wahrheit> You can't run minecraft and that other stuff
#2761 [18:39] <xales> LordShagrax: running any kind of server on Windows is bad :/
#2762 [18:39] <Wahrheit> Yeah
#2763 [18:39] <xales> also, running minecraft and all that other stuff
#2764 [18:39] <xales> will not work
#2765 [18:39] <Wahrheit> It's a terrible idea
#2766 [18:39] <xales> especially the torrents
#2767 [18:39] <Wahrheit> Crashes your computer
#2768 [18:39] <Wahrheit> And if you're running peerblock (you should) you won't be able to serve anyway
#2769 [18:39] <Wahrheit> Shagrax, check this out
#2770 [18:39] <Wahrheit> http://goo.gl/pWsHC
#2771 [18:40] <Wahrheit> I have a recurring 50% discount code too
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#2773 [18:40] <Wahrheit> 50OFFXMAS2010
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#2775 [18:40] <Wahrheit> Literally, my bill looks like this
#2776 [18:40] <fork> damn
#2777 [18:40] <Wahrheit> 1024 Unmetered Plan - summaxr.com. (23/12/2010 - 22/01/2011) $14.00 USD
#2778 [18:40] <Wahrheit> Promotional Code: 50OFFXMAS2010 - 50.00% Recurring Discount $-7.00 USD
#2779 [18:40] <fork> couple people i know just bought mc and theyre getting "USER NOT PREMIUM" when connecting
#2780 [18:40] <Wahrheit> !premium
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#2782 [18:40] <Wahrheit> !payment
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#2784 [18:41] <LordShagrax> thanks for tip
#2785 [18:42] <fork> o i c
#2786 [18:42] <fork> thanks
#2787 [18:42] <Wahrheit> No problem bro
#2788 [18:42] <Wahrheit> And the discount is permanent
#2789 [18:42] <Wahrheit> hell if you can find a better deal tell me
#2790 [18:42] <LordShagrax> i was thinking of using my old gaming comp, to set it as my second play comp, but also use it as minecraft server, when im not playing mmo
#2791 [18:42] <Wahrheit> NOPE
#2792 [18:42] <Wahrheit> You can't do that on a home line
#2793 [18:43] <Wahrheit> it's against most ISP's TOS
#2794 [18:43] <Wahrheit> and it will eat your internet and crash your computer
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#2796 [18:43] <LordShagrax> i have 100/100mbit line
#2797 [18:44] <Wahrheit> doesn't matter
#2798 [18:44] <xales> its against the TOS of most isps
#2799 [18:44] <xales> they can disconnect your service
#2800 [18:44] <xales> without telling you
#2801 [18:44] <xales> if they find your hosting a server
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#2803 [18:45] <WienerWuerstel> That's the first Time I hear something like that
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#2805 [18:45] <WienerWuerstel> Probably US ISP mostly
#2806 [18:46] <LordShagrax> how much does minecraft take of your line with 1-3 connected
#2807 [18:46] <Wahrheit> If I used screen before starting my server and then later exited putty, how do I get to my server console once I start putty again?
#2808 [18:47] <xales> WienerWuerstel: most ISPs in general
#2809 [18:47] <xales> LordShagrax: depends. can be a lot
#2810 [18:47] <LordShagrax> well i can run servers, as long as it isnt a commercial server
#2811 [18:48] <xales> its up to you what you want to do
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#2813 [18:48] <xales> but minecraft is pretty resource heavy
#2814 [18:48] <jonol> hello
#2815 [18:48] <xales> hello
#2816 [18:48] <WienerWuerstel> hai
#2817 [18:48] <LordShagrax> besides if i am going to put up one its gonna be on a DMZ'd zone from another router, with bandwith restrictions of 5mbit both ways
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#2819 [18:50] <jonol> anyone here can help me with gift codes? i ordered one 24 hours ago, and havent recieved anything yet. (paid with paypal)
#2820 [18:50] <xales> !payment
#2821 [18:50] <jonol> hehe, thanks
#2822 [18:50] <xales> no problem
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#2825 [18:51] <LordShagrax> xales. i appreciate the advice, ill definitive think of it, and see if i can manage to squeeze in money to afford it
#2826 [18:51] <xales> LordShagrax: good luck
#2827 [18:51] <Wahrheit> 7 bucks a month is nothing lol
#2828 [18:51] <Wahrheit> good luck
#2829 [18:52] <LordShagrax> well im very broke these days lol
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#2831 [18:56] <Wahrheit> how hard is it to $7/mo?
#2832 [18:56] <Wahrheit> get job
#2833 [18:56] <Wahrheit> or work chacha
#2834 [18:57] <xales> he left
#2835 [18:57] <xales> lol
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#2837 [18:58] <WienerWuerstel> Even less for us Europeans ;)
#2838 [18:59] <WienerWuerstel> 1 EUR is 1,33 USD right now
#2839 [19:01] <xales> lol
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#2842 [19:02] <Neckblaze> wtf
#2843 [19:03] <Wahrheit> wait for it
#2844 [19:03] <WienerWuerstel> not again
#2845 [19:03] <Wahrheit> wait for it
#2846 [19:03] <Neckblaze> stupid a
#2847 [19:03] <Neckblaze> payment crap
#2848 [19:03] <Neckblaze> :D
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#2850 [19:03] <Wahrheit> !payment
#2851 [19:03] <Tonux> Hello, i just bought Minecraft, and the money has gone out of my paypal, but its not acitvated on my acount
#2852 [19:03] <Wahrheit> damnit
#2853 [19:03] <Wahrheit> Tonux look up
#2854 [19:03] <Tonux> o
#2855 [19:03] <Tonux> lol
#2856 [19:04] <Tonux> ty
#2857 [19:04] <WienerWuerstel> Look Up? lol Like he is he about to get hit by something
#2858 [19:05] <WienerWuerstel> -he
#2859 [19:06] <xales> lol
#2860 [19:06] <WienerWuerstel> Like Minecraft :P
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#2863 [19:08] <WienerWuerstel> :(
#2864 [19:09] <WienerWuerstel> I'm disappointed now
#2865 [19:09] <WienerWuerstel> He didn't ask the "P Question"
#2866 [19:12] <xales> who didn't?
#2867 [19:13] <WienerWuerstel> The one who left last ;)
#2868 [19:17] <xales> the mibbit random name guy?
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#2871 [19:18] <WienerWuerstel> Well maybe
#2872 [19:18] <WienerWuerstel> No I meant mib
#2873 [19:18] <xales> yeah
#2874 [19:18] <xales> thats the mibbit random name guy
#2875 [19:18] <WienerWuerstel> lol
#2876 [19:18] <xales> too lazy/dumb to give himself a name
#2877 [19:18] <WienerWuerstel> I thoght you mean "NeckBlaze"
#2878 [19:18] <xales> oh
#2879 [19:18] <xales> lol
#2880 [19:19] <xales> why would I mean him? :/
#2881 [19:19] <WienerWuerstel> That's random and weird
#2882 [19:19] <WienerWuerstel> Like " Look I got a Blaze in my Neck"
#2883 [19:20] <xales> oh
#2884 [19:20] <xales> lol
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#2902 [19:56] <prodigy|gFx[CEO]> its been over 24 hours and have not yet gotten a response from customer support nor have i gotten an email... i paid and everything whats going on...
#2903 [19:57] <xales> !premium
#2904 [19:57] <xales> !payment
#2905 [19:57] <xales> oh sorry
#2906 [19:57] <xales> umm
#2907 [19:57] <WienerWuerstel> Finally :D
#2908 [19:57] <xales> its christmas and the weekend
#2909 [19:57] <xales> give them some time to get back to you
#2910 [19:58] <prodigy|gFx[CEO]> its just the fact that i dont like paying for something and not getting it..
#2911 [19:58] <WienerWuerstel> I bet notch is working his a double s off but he is still just a Human you know ;)
#2912 [19:58] <xales> you will get it
#2913 [19:58] <xales> you just need to be patient
#2914 [19:58] <xales> think of it as your waiting for the CD in the mail
#2915 [19:58] <prodigy|gFx[CEO]> i never order online cause i hat ethe wait haha
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#2917 [19:58] <WienerWuerstel> "Good things come for those who wait"
#2918 [19:59] <WienerWuerstel> Or something like that ;)
#2919 [19:59] <xales> s/for/to
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#2922 [20:02] <WienerWuerstel> hai Snowblind
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#2924 [20:03] <Smashdev> hi
#2925 [20:03] <WienerWuerstel> hai
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#2927 [20:04] <WienerWuerstel> Wasabi brings Tears to your Eyes *sniff*
#2928 [20:04] <Smashdev> my server on minecraft wont work, it just says, refused to connect to server.
#2929 [20:06] <xales> Smashdev: portforward.com
#2930 [20:06] <Smashdev> i got my port fowarded
#2931 [20:06] <K4z00^> !premium
#2932 [20:06] <Smashdev> ?
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#2934 [20:09] <WienerWuerstel> Any Error Log you can show us?
#2935 [20:09] <WienerWuerstel> Or better said Output
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#2938 [20:11] <xales> Smashdev: if you are getting that error, then it is not properly forwarded
#2939 [20:11] <xales> or you are using the wrong IP
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#2948 [20:24] <Regguj> alright which of you multiplayer notepad users can help me with my server woes
#2949 [20:24] <Regguj> i am at my wits end
#2950 [20:25] <xales> ask your question
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#2952 [20:25] <Regguj> after spending all afternoon trying to get this server running
#2953 [20:25] <Regguj> all i can do is connect thru my local IP
#2954 [20:25] <xales> Regguj: portforward.com
#2955 [20:26] <Regguj> yea i done that too
#2956 [20:26] <xales> what is the IP?
#2957 [20:26] <xales> external IP*
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#2959 [20:27] <Regguj> 24.226.66.145
#2960 [20:27] <xales> !check 24.226.66.145
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#2962 [20:27] <xales> seems to be timing out
#2963 [20:27] <xales> make sure the port is properly forwarded
#2964 [20:27] <xales> port 25565 both TCP and UDP
#2965 [20:27] <Regguj> yea thats the error i keep getting
#2966 [20:28] <xales> and that it is running
#2967 [20:28] <xales> also, disable completely any firewall
#2968 [20:28] <xales> that may be running on the server
#2969 [20:28] <Regguj> for serious
#2970 [20:28] <Regguj> okay
#2971 [20:29] <xales> yeah
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#2973 [20:29] <Regguj> !check 24.226.66.145
#2974 [20:29] <Regguj> does the firewall normally create issues?
#2975 [20:29] <xales> yes
#2976 [20:29] <Regguj> damn
#2977 [20:29] <mib_qcrc4c> Hey do you guys know the port I need to open so people can join my server...like 25565? or something
#2978 [20:30] <xales> 25565
#2979 [20:30] <xales> TCP and UDP
#2980 [20:30] <mib_qcrc4c> thanks =D
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#2982 [20:30] <xales> Regguj: only problem, as long as the server is running, port is properly forwarded
#2983 [20:30] <xales> is the firewall, routing, or the ISP
#2984 [20:30] <xales> its unlikely routing or ISP
#2985 [20:30] <xales> so its usually firewall
#2986 [20:30] <Regguj> alrighty
#2987 [20:30] <Regguj> im testing it now
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#2989 [20:30] <xales> Regguj: make sure that the ip line in server.properties is blank
#2990 [20:31] <Regguj> it is
#2991 [20:31] <Regguj> holy butts it worked
#2992 [20:31] <Regguj> can you help me get it to use more of my ram?
#2993 [20:31] <xales> Regguj: it will only use as much as it needs, provided you have enough free and are using the EXE
#2994 [20:31] <xales> the bitching about "Cant keep up" is normal
#2995 [20:31] <Regguj> oh
#2996 [20:32] <Regguj> k
#2997 [20:32] <Regguj> cuz that thing has like 12 gigs of ram on it
#2998 [20:32] <Regguj> i dont want it to default to like 1
#2999 [20:32] <xales> it wont need more than 1
#3000 [20:32] <xales> it will only allocate 1
#3001 [20:32] <Regguj> i thought minecraft was a ram whore
#3002 [20:32] <xales> because java is garbage and will literally eat all 12gb after a while
#3003 [20:32] <xales> 1gb is a massively excssive amount of ram for 1 program
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#3005 [20:32] <Regguj> its gotta render all that map tho right?
#3006 [20:32] <WienerWuerstel> I can feel your Pain
#3007 [20:32] <Regguj> with people running around and stuff
#3008 [20:33] <xales> Regguj: the client is the one rendering, the server only has to manage data. each block is represented by a couple numbers represnting type, position, etc.
#3009 [20:33] <WienerWuerstel> And it got even worse after Oracle bought Sub
#3010 [20:33] <WienerWuerstel> *Sun
#3011 [20:33] <xales> what?
#3012 [20:33] <xales> I dont think oracle has done anything dumb to java yet
#3013 [20:33] <xales> :\
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#3016 [20:33] <WienerWuerstel> Not yet ;)
#3017 [20:34] <WienerWuerstel> They find a way to make Java even worse than it was before
#3018 [20:34] <xales> the problem is only partially with java
#3019 [20:34] <xales> rest is with memory leaks in minecraft
#3020 [20:34] <Regguj> i see
#3021 [20:34] <WienerWuerstel> They have done that to many things already
#3022 [20:35] <xales> that java has no way for debuggers to detect
#3023 [20:35] <xales> because it is garbage
#3024 [20:35] <WienerWuerstel> I'm not blaming it all on Java tough
#3025 [20:35] <WienerWuerstel> Minecraft is still Beta
#3026 [20:35] <xales> java is the reason its not easy for them to find problems
#3027 [20:35] <WienerWuerstel> So there is some Room for improvement
#3028 [20:35] <xales> not the reason for excessive memory use
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#3032 [20:46] <Regguj> everything seems to be running smoothly now
#3033 [20:46] <Regguj> cheers xales
#3034 [20:46] <xales> :)
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#3041 [20:55] <Kirdog> çôíüóòåû
#3042 [20:55] <Kirdog> payments
#3043 [20:55] <Kirdog> !payments
#3044 [20:56] <Kirdog> hm
#3045 [20:56] <Kirdog> =\
#3046 [20:56] <WienerWuerstel> So many bought Minecraft in the last Day or 2? ;)
#3047 [20:57] <xales> and all spamming Notch
#3048 [20:57] <xales> :/
#3049 [20:57] <Kirdog> i dont know
#3050 [20:57] <WienerWuerstel> They want him to amp it up a notch. I guess
#3051 [20:57] <xales> lol
#3052 [20:57] <Kirdog> i bought game for my friend 40 hours ago
#3053 [20:57] <WienerWuerstel> You don't know how long i'm holding back already on thos one xD
#3054 [20:58] <WienerWuerstel> *this
#3055 [20:58] <WienerWuerstel> So you bought it when it already hit Beta Status
#3056 [20:59] <xales> Kirdog: its christmas and they are flooded with help requests, and payments
#3057 [20:59] <xales> just wait a little longer :(
#3058 [20:59] <WienerWuerstel> I still wonder what those "paid Updates" could be
#3059 [20:59] <Kirdog> ok
#3060 [21:00] <Kirdog> hope my money will not be lost
#3061 [21:00] <xales> Kirdog: that will definately not happen
#3062 [21:00] <xales> it may just take soem time
#3063 [21:00] <Kirdog> lol my inglish is shit
#3064 [21:00] <WienerWuerstel> Please hold the Line. A team of well trained Monkeys will be soon at your Service Sir
#3065 [21:00] <Kirdog> eanglish*
#3066 [21:00] <Kirdog> lol ><
#3067 [21:00] <xales> ;)
#3068 [21:01] <WienerWuerstel> Don't be so hard on yourself
#3069 [21:01] <Kirdog> i got up 10 minites ago
#3070 [21:01] <WienerWuerstel> We are not "Grammar Nazis" and we won't bite ;)
#3071 [21:01] <Kirdog> by brain didnt start properly
#3072 [21:01] <Kirdog> ))
#3073 [21:01] <Kirdog> Thanks )
#3074 [21:02] <xales> WienerWuerstel: I am
#3075 [21:02] <xales> I will put you in a concentration camp for using bad grammer
#3076 [21:02] <xales> raaawr
#3077 [21:02] <Kirdog> I bought yesterday Full valve Pack for just 50 dollars on the steam
#3078 [21:02] <xales> <3
#3079 [21:02] <Kirdog> This is very good price
#3080 [21:02] <xales> Kirdog: I dont know how steam makes money :(
#3081 [21:02] <WienerWuerstel> xales, Oh Noes! :P
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#3084 [21:03] <WienerWuerstel> xales, Mostly with those Sales that they got
#3085 [21:03] <Kirdog> i'm gonna play this gemes. when i will heva free time )
#3086 [21:03] <Kirdog> games*
#3087 [21:04] <WienerWuerstel> I still have some Games to play too :D
#3088 [21:05] <WienerWuerstel> Braid, Machinarium, Steel Storm, Revenge of the Titans...
#3089 [21:05] <WienerWuerstel> etc.
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#3094 [21:16] <CruelNoise> yo!
#3095 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Mrah!
#3096 [21:16] <CruelNoise> yo!
#3097 [21:17] <CruelNoise> I jus wrote yo in every channel i'm in
#3098 [21:17] <xales> lol
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#3100 [21:17] <Kealper> rawr
#3101 [21:18] <Kealper> spending time with family on xmas eve: ftl
#3102 [21:18] <CruelNoise> =(
#3103 [21:18] <xales> Kealper: indeed
#3104 [21:18] <CruelNoise> I liked it enough
#3105 [21:18] <xales> you should spend it with trolls and griefers instead
#3106 [21:18] <CruelNoise> We played a game
#3107 [21:18] <CruelNoise> hugged
#3108 [21:18] <CruelNoise> made out
#3109 [21:18] <CruelNoise> incest orgies are the bst
#3110 [21:18] <Kealper> sounds hot
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#3112 [21:18] <CruelNoise> actually
#3113 [21:18] <xales> CruelNoise: by the way, if people are complaining in #minecraft about premium, you can ".premium (theirnick)" now :D
#3114 [21:19] <CruelNoise> what's premium?
#3115 [21:19] <Kealper> .premium? wuzzat?
#3116 [21:19] <CruelNoise> also, we actually played boardgames, eat mincemeat tarts
#3117 [21:19] <CruelNoise> and had good time
#3118 [21:19] <xales> bi1dramer was complaining that there should be a bot
#3119 [21:19] <xales> because there was literally 1 person every 15 mins asking
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#3121 [21:19] <CruelNoise> what is premium?
#3122 [21:19] <xales> so now there is one
#3123 [21:19] * The_Observer is now known as Cial
#3124 [21:20] <Kealper> hell i could have just had aubot join that channel...lol
#3125 [21:20] <xales> CruelNoise: the people asking about premium/beta accounts
#3126 [21:20] <CruelNoise> oh
#3127 [21:20] <xales> Kealper: its already done :)
#3128 [21:20] <CruelNoise> you mean alpha accounts?
#3129 [21:20] <xales> no need for 2 of em
#3130 [21:20] <Kealper> "could have" lol
#3131 [21:20] <xales> CruelNoise: or that
#3132 [21:20] <xales> the payment issues recently
#3133 [21:20] <CruelNoise> xales: so, who all does that?
#3134 [21:20] <xales> so many asking about that
#3135 [21:20] <CruelNoise> xales: or can do that
#3136 [21:20] <xales> CruelNoise: my bot that bildramer approved :/
#3137 [21:20] <xales> just letting you know, for your convience
#3138 [21:20] <xales> your a person who frequently helps people out, so it may be of use to you
#3139 [21:20] <CruelNoise> so, what does it do?
#3140 [21:21] <WienerWuerstel> I was just afk for 5 Minutes and I already missed the Incest Action :(
#3141 [21:21] <xales> it gives a message
#3142 [21:21] <xales> about emailing payment@mojang
#3143 [21:21] <xales> etc
#3144 [21:21] <CruelNoise> oh, good
#3145 [21:21] <xales> and waiting 24 hours
#3146 [21:21] <CruelNoise> I was thinking
#3147 [21:21] <xales> local message = "Please wait 24 hours after purchasing the game for your account to be activated and marked as premium. If your account is still not upgraded by then, send an e-mail to payment@mo jang.com with your transaction ID and username."
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#3150 [21:26] <Kealper> !reload mod_bot
#3151 [21:26] <Kealper> fail,,,
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#3153 [21:26] <Kealper> ...*
#3154 [21:26] <Kealper> !reload mod_log
#3155 [21:27] <xales> lol
#3156 [21:27] <xales> bot got broke?
#3157 [21:27] <Kealper> updated the log module
#3158 [21:27] <xales> ah
#3159 [21:27] <obi_wan> So if i paid and got an error it still paid and will reecognize it eventually?
#3160 [21:27] <xales> obi_wan: depends on the error
#3161 [21:27] <Kealper> eventually...lol
#3162 [21:28] <obi_wan> ID: 106658468 < That was the error
#3163 [21:28] <Kealper> o.o
#3164 [21:28] <xales> obi_wan: then it was a paypal error
#3165 [21:28] <xales> and you should talk to them
#3166 [21:29] <xales> Kealper: is that an eggdrop? I dont know of any bots that use ! for core commands
#3167 [21:29] <xales> I wrote my own and spent a long time looking for influence :)
#3168 [21:29] <Kealper> AuBot is 100% my code :P
#3169 [21:30] <xales> ah
#3170 [21:30] <xales> xalesbot.sf.net if you want to see mine :P
#3171 [21:30] <xales> written in C(sort of ++) and using Lua for scripting
#3172 [21:30] <xales> I hate lua too :/
#3173 [21:30] <Kealper> lol
#3174 [21:30] <Kealper> mine is pure autoit
#3175 [21:30] <xales> but decent scripting language are impossible to integrate without headache/effort
#3176 [21:31] <xales> ive never used autoit :/
#3177 [21:31] <Kealper> windows-only
#3178 [21:31] <xales> :(
#3179 [21:32] <xales> thats probably why then
#3180 [21:32] <Kealper> meh, it works though lol
#3181 [21:33] <xales> I'd probably run my bot on my PC if I could
#3182 [21:33] <xales> but windows inet isnt stable enough imho
#3183 [21:33] <Kealper> lol
#3184 [21:33] <xales> plus, I shut my computer off sometimes, or reboot :\
#3185 [21:33] <Kealper> idk, my server is windows and it's rock solid stable
#3186 [21:34] <Kealper> the only time it turns off is when i turn it off for it's bi-monthly cleaning lol
#3187 [21:35] <xales> ah
#3188 [21:35] <Kealper> and i think the most i've had it going was for about 160-ish days before taking it down for a cleaning...so...stable enough for me lol
#3189 [21:35] <xales> by the way, this was written by efnet ircops (albeit many years ago)
#3190 [21:35] <xales> "Any Windows-based IRC program, no matter if it's mIRC or some fancy bot, is just as likely to crash or get disconnected. Those problems you see (ping timeouts, connection reset by peer, etc.) are due to instability of Windows itself or your home-based internet connection. So instead of running a Windows bot, you might as well just leave your mIRC idling 24/7, and perhaps configure it with simple scripts such as this op giving script. You might think some
#3191 [21:36] <xales> thats basically a summary of my issues with using windows for any kind of program that needs to stay running :(
#3192 [21:36] <Kealper> i've never had any problems with windows :S
#3193 [21:36] <xales> albeit that mostly applies to desktop where the bot will go down when the user opens a torrent client
#3194 [21:36] <xales> running one on an actual server isnt as bad
#3195 [21:37] <xales> but if someone just has it minimized on their desktop :\
#3196 [21:37] <xales> thats a bit pointless imho
#3197 [21:37] <obi_wan> Well i didn't pay using paypal so what's up with that?
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#3199 [21:38] <xales> obi_wan: I dont think there is a way to buy without using paypal
#3200 [21:38] <Kealper> obi_wan: what did you see that error code on? because i've never seen that on minecraft
#3201 [21:38] <Kealper> xales: they just added a CC option, it goes through some swedish handler
#3202 [21:39] <xales> oh
#3203 [21:39] <xales> well then
#3204 [21:39] <Kealper> added it like a day before beta
#3205 [21:39] * xales doesnt buy the same game twice...much
#3205 [21:39] <Kealper> lol
#3206 [21:39] <Kealper> i really want to know why everyone hates windows for servers so much.....lol
#3207 [21:39] * xales may have bought minecraft more than once shortly after buying it
#3207 [21:40] <xales> Kealper: windows chews so much ram for itself, and runs all kinds of garbage processes that just do dumb things
#3208 [21:40] <xales> that are rarely useful
#3209 [21:40] <obi_wan> nah i got it the first time i tried.
#3210 [21:40] <xales> like caching Microsoft Office preinstall on your webserver
#3211 [21:40] <obi_wan> I used the pay with Mastercard/visa option
#3212 [21:40] <Kealper> oh...that...yea...i've got all that stuff disabled/not installed on my server
#3213 [21:41] <Kealper> only uses like 150mb of ram for itself after fully starting
#3214 [21:41] <xales> Kealper: I'm using 400MB ram running a webserver, IRC client, mysql etcetc
#3215 [21:41] <xales> linux uses about 8mb after starting :/
#3216 [21:41] <xales> if that
#3217 [21:41] <Kealper> i've noticed that apache is a bit of a ram hog
#3218 [21:41] <nipper> mine with directadmin runs about 200mb ram then 1300mb for minecraft.
#3219 [21:42] <Kealper> it's got two processes, one using 20mb and the other can get up to like 100mb :S
#3220 [21:42] <xales> apache isn't too bad
#3221 [21:42] <Kealper> then sql uses another 50, ftp is about 20...bleh
#3222 [21:42] <nipper> apache only eats ram when you have alot of hits and using alot of php.
#3223 [21:43] <Kealper> hmm...
#3224 [21:45] <Kealper> wow...never noticed how much ram explorer allocates for itself....like 30mb
#3225 [21:45] <xales> exploder*
#3226 [21:45] <xales> exploder.exe
#3227 [21:45] <xales> :)
#3228 [21:45] <Kealper> lol
#3229 [21:45] <xales> also, the GUI in general, etc
#3230 [21:45] <xales> cant uninstall or just not use it
#3231 [21:45] <xales> like you can on every other OS :\
#3232 [21:46] <Kealper> you can stop explorer if you want
#3233 [21:48] <Kealper> sigh...java wants to update on my server -.-
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#3236 [21:52] <james> hey I have a question
#3237 [21:52] <james> Hello
#3238 [21:52] <xales> hello james
#3239 [21:52] <james> im James
#3240 [21:52] <xales> ask your question
#3241 [21:52] <james> Ah every time i log in my stuff is gone
#3242 [21:53] <Kealper> on your own server?
#3243 [21:53] <james> i will plahy for like 6 hours save the game and exit
#3244 [21:53] <xales> single player or multiplayer?
#3245 [21:53] <james> log in the next day and everything is gopne
#3246 [21:53] <james> why is that?
#3247 [21:53] <james> single player
#3248 [21:53] <xales> james: windows?
#3249 [21:53] <james> yup
#3250 [21:53] <james> 7
#3251 [21:53] <Kealper> run it as administrator?
#3252 [21:53] <james> i bought the game
#3253 [21:54] <james> i dunno
#3254 [21:54] <james> thanks anyways'
#3255 [21:54] <xales> james: what is gone exactly? the world from the list of saves?
#3256 [21:54] <xales> or just everything in the world
#3257 [21:54] <james> the world from the list of saves
#3258 [21:54] <Kealper> run as administrator
#3259 [21:54] <xales> ^
#3260 [21:54] <james> okay thanks
#3261 [21:55] <rschultea> Good Evening, Got a odd Mac Problem. Been trying all afternoon to connect to a local IP multiplayer game. 3 computer in the house with linux OS where able to connect, but my mac 10.6 wouldnt connect to the server. Network connection Is good. Then I decided to to a stupid thing by copying my save files else where, and removing minecraft and app support files. redownloaded the zip file on minecraft.net now the app bounces onc
#3262 [21:55] <rschultea> drops away. Console log is showing a odd permission error inside the Package of the file....
#3263 [21:55] <Kealper> i take that back, windows MOSTLY works lol
#3264 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> rschultea, can you pastebin the error?
#3265 [21:55] <Kealper> the privlage system is a bit borked...but it works
#3266 [21:55] <xales> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com
#3267 [21:55] <xales> Kealper: windows also requires a lot of reboots/manual maintenance and cleaning
#3268 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#3269 [21:56] <xales> since setting up my server the only thing I do is read the incoming connection log in my email :)
#3270 [21:56] <Kealper> then my server must be a freak of software then :S
#3271 [21:56] <obi_wan> Hey im back and i can clarify i paid with a credit card and I bought something else earlier today so i know the security codes work. Should i just try again tommorow?
#3272 [21:57] <rschultea> http://pastebin.com/yCUPRv7j
#3273 [21:57] <Kealper> O.o
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#3275 [21:57] <xales> obi_wan: I would reccomend waiting a few days, Mojang is having some problems with payments right now
#3276 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> rschultea, type this in
#3277 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#3278 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Then run it again
#3279 [21:58] <Kealper> osx has chmod?
#3280 [21:58] <xales> yup
#3281 [21:58] * GreyVulpine nods
#3281 [21:58] <Kealper> man i seriously have to get a mac so i can be something more than useless when it comes to them
#3282 [21:58] <xales> GreyVulpine: chmod +Rx /Applications/Minecraft.app is probably better :)
#3283 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> I haven't touched a mac in years
#3284 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> +R?
#3285 [21:58] <xales> recursive
#3286 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> recursive?
#3287 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#3288 [21:58] <obi_wan> OK thanks.
#3289 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Last time I touched a mac, was in my high school.
#3290 [21:59] <obi_wan> I wanted to make sure it wasn't just me. XD
#3291 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> So.. many years ago
#3292 [21:59] <Cial> ewwww
#3293 [21:59] <rschultea> seems to be running again.. let me move my saves over right quick before running away... i need to learn more nix commands :) but so far so good
#3294 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Cool.
#3295 [21:59] <Cial> did you sterilize your hands after?
#3296 [21:59] <xales> linuxcommand.org
#3297 [21:59] <Kealper> i think the last time i used a mac was some original powermac back in middle school typing class, and we were not allowed to do much on then :S
#3298 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, heh, yeah.
#3299 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> I think I used one of those.. g3s.. or g4s..
#3300 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> computer lab finally upgraded that year
#3301 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Then I graduated
#3302 [22:00] <xales> Macs are a nice desktop os for people with money who don't want to deal with some of the problems that windows has, yet dont want to have the difficulty/"different"ness of using linux
#3303 [22:01] <Kealper> i don't even know what that one was that i used....but it was a grayscale monitor and the whole bit....oooold..lol
#3304 [22:01] <rschultea> Grey, Its working perectly now. I appreciate it, thanks guys! :)
#3305 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> And the quacking.. every time you set the volume
#3306 [22:01] <xales> otherwise I see no point on spending $3000 for a 2xcpu machine that I can get for $1200
#3307 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> No prob rschultea.
#3308 [22:01] <Kealper> xales: i'm with you on that one
#3309 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Man, that drove me nuts
#3310 [22:01] <xales> quacking is an awesome sound
#3311 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> quack.. quack. quack.
#3312 [22:01] <xales> :(
#3313 [22:01] <Kealper> lol
#3314 [22:01] <xales> especially over...and over...and over
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#3316 [22:03] <xales> http://bit.ly/gY0Jb9
#3317 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#3318 [22:10] * Kealper sends this image to a friend (he is a known apple fangirl)
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#3319 [22:10] * GreyVulpine also sends to friends.
#3319 [22:11] <Kealper> he's going to nerdrage so hard at that image...he absolutely hates it when i rip on apple's pricing
#3320 [22:11] <xales> lol
#3321 [22:11] <Kealper> and says all that is worth it because "it just works"
#3322 [22:11] <xales> linux "just works" if you know how to make it just work - and its free
#3323 [22:11] <xales> all you need to do is read a bit
#3324 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> But.. but reading TAKES EFFORT.
#3325 [22:11] <Kealper> my computer has been "just working" fine since i built it back in 08...and i paid $400
#3326 [22:11] <xales> GreyVulpine: so does making money
#3327 [22:11] <Kealper> lol
#3328 [22:11] * GreyVulpine whines.
#3328 [22:12] <obi_wan> Saw that image on Stumble Upon months ago.
#3329 [22:12] * xales whines back
#3329 [22:12] <obi_wan> Building computers FTW. Realizing the CPU went down in price 40$ in 2 weeks? not win.
#3330 [22:13] <Kealper> i don't even think they sell my cpu anymore -.-
#3331 [22:13] <obi_wan> They sell mine but not for much longer. : O
#3332 [22:13] <obi_wan> AMD Phenom II X4 925 2.8GHz
#3333 [22:13] * Kealper checks newegg to see if they still sell mine
#3333 [22:14] <obi_wan> newegg doesn't sell the 925 but other places still do. haha
#3334 [22:14] <Kealper> nope....mine is not even sold anymore
#3335 [22:14] <obi_wan> awwwww. What is it?
#3336 [22:14] <Kealper> athlon 64 x2 5000+
#3337 [22:15] <Kealper> socket am2
#3338 [22:15] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3338 [22:15] <obi_wan> Sweet. Im putting an Athlon X2 2.8GHz BE (can't remember the model name) in a friend's build.
#3339 [22:15] <obi_wan> Total cost for parts is 160
#3340 [22:15] <Kealper> lol
#3341 [22:16] <obi_wan> and it's got 4GB of DDR2 800
#3342 [22:16] <Kealper> mine is 2.6ghz at stock but i've got it OCed to 3.0
#3343 [22:16] <obi_wan> Uses my current mobo
#3344 [22:16] <obi_wan> Because im upgrading to a new one.
#3345 [22:16] <Kealper> i wish i could get a new computer :S
#3346 [22:18] <xales> Kealper: thats what i have T_T
#3347 [22:18] <obi_wan> I've been upgrading mine slowly over the past year.
#3348 [22:18] <obi_wan> Mine is OC to 3.26GHz
#3349 [22:18] <obi_wan> Not bad for not having a job besides fixing computers. :D
#3350 [22:18] <Kealper> i've heard that mine can do 3.1ghz with the stock cooler, but 3.0 is far enough for me lol
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#3352 [22:20] <obi_wan> Mine is with the stock cooler and it idles at 109 F.
#3353 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Holy
#3354 [22:20] * Kealper does some maths
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#3355 [22:20] <Kealper> wow
#3356 [22:21] <Kealper> mine runs under full load what yours does idling, and mine has a 400mhz oc
#3357 [22:21] <obi_wan> And my GPU idles at 118 F
#3358 [22:21] <Kealper> 93 F at idle
#3359 [22:21] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3359 [22:21] <obi_wan> Whaaaaat?
#3360 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> -.-
#3361 [22:21] <Cial> obi_wan, have you considered cooking snacks on it?
#3362 [22:22] <obi_wan> No.
#3363 [22:22] <obi_wan> It's been running fine.
#3364 [22:22] <xales> Cial: have you seen the youtube of someone cooking pancakes on an xbox classic?
#3365 [22:22] <Cial> xales, no
#3366 [22:22] <Cial> but you probably cood
#3367 [22:22] <xales> >:)
#3368 [22:22] <Cial> *could
#3369 [22:22] <Kealper> and my gpu idles at about 100F
#3370 [22:22] <Cial> damn that thing got hot after a few hours of halo
#3371 [22:22] <xales> obi_wan: you can upgrade to something that runs hotter with all the money you save on an oven/stove
#3372 [22:22] <obi_wan> and my case is ginormous, so is that considered hot or something?
#3373 [22:23] <xales> obi_wan: very. most cards are only rated to 120F or something like that
#3374 [22:23] <xales> large case != cool case
#3375 [22:23] <obi_wan> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156078&cm_re=smilodon_extreme_black-_-11-156-078-_-Product
#3376 [22:23] <xales> case with many fans = cool case
#3377 [22:23] <xales> ooh
#3378 [22:23] <obi_wan> That things bigger than my full tower!
#3379 [22:23] <xales> I have that case
#3380 [22:23] <obi_wan> sweet
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#3382 [22:24] <xales> nice nick
#3383 [22:24] <Kealper> LOL
#3384 [22:24] <LOL> thanks, fits to my moot regarding the payment of minecraft.
#3385 [22:24] <Kealper> sorry, had to
#3386 [22:24] <LOL> np xD
#3387 [22:25] <obi_wan> Weaallllll my CPU and GPU have lasted for about a year or so it can't be too bad.
#3388 [22:25] <obi_wan> I have an XFX ATI Radeon HD 5750....
#3389 [22:25] <xales> ATI cards run hot, ive been told
#3390 [22:25] <Kealper> yea you are not close to damaging them...they start to get wonky after going above like 300F so...lol
#3391 [22:25] <Kealper> mine is an ati
#3392 [22:26] <LOL> you meantioned my name, xD
#3393 [22:26] <Kealper> with a 15% OC on it's ram/core
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#3395 [22:26] <obi_wan> Im not sure the % on my OC.
#3396 [22:26] <Kealper> LOL: yeah, it's dangerous to have that nick while i am talking, i lol a lot :P
#3397 [22:26] <obi_wan> it's from 700/1150 to 800/1200
#3398 [22:26] <LOL> ok, brb. :D
#3399 [22:26] <obi_wan> And run 60% fan at all times.
#3400 [22:26] <obi_wan> Nut it
#3401 [22:26] <xales> Kealper: most clients only hilight if its case match I thought?
#3402 [22:26] <Kealper> many don't match case
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#3404 [22:27] <xales> Im not even sure if mine does
#3405 [22:27] <Kealper> someone say "kealper" lol
#3406 [22:27] <xales> kealper
#3407 [22:27] <obi_wan> But it's like 4 feet away with a heater running behind me so it's silent XD
#3408 [22:27] <Luciux> Kealper
#3409 [22:27] <Kealper> matched
#3410 [22:27] <Luciux> :D
#3411 [22:27] <xales> try me?
#3412 [22:27] <Kealper> XALES
#3413 [22:27] <xales> matched T_T
#3414 [22:27] <Kealper> :P
#3415 [22:27] <xales> I can enable case sensitivity if I remove and readd hilight :)
#3416 [22:27] <Luciux> Someone say My Minecraft payment isnt accepted yet xD
#3417 [22:28] <xales> /help hilight
#3418 [22:28] <xales> My Minecraft payment isnt accepted yet xD
#3419 [22:28] <Luciux> lol
#3420 [22:28] <Luciux> :P
#3421 [22:28] <Kealper> !payment
#3422 [22:28] <Luciux> okay, its more then 30 hours already
#3423 [22:28] <Luciux> email outrage :D
#3424 [22:28] <xales> Luciux: its christmas and a weekend - give em some time
#3425 [22:29] <xales> it wont be more than a few days, hopefully
#3426 [22:29] <obi_wan> It's been like......45 minutes. :O /RAGE
#3427 [22:29] <xales> /rage
#3428 [22:29] <Luciux> hey, I'm bored and I want minecraft /rage xD
#3429 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> /part
#3430 [22:29] <Cial> obi_wan, thats literally how a lot of people are
#3431 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> I mean
#3432 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> /rage
#3433 [22:29] <obi_wan> Yeah i figured as much
#3434 [22:29] <obi_wan> I'll chill and play Black Ops or anything.
#3435 [22:30] <xales> Kealper: you should add a counter for how many times !payment is used
#3436 [22:30] <Kealper> do i gotsta?
#3437 [22:30] <xales> so we can get an idea of around how many millions of emails Notch will have when he gets back
#3438 [22:30] <Kealper> lol
#3439 [22:30] <obi_wan> Or Starsiege Tribes if im feeling really ghetto. :D
#3440 [22:30] <Cial> a metric shit ton xales
#3441 [22:30] <Luciux> hm yeah I could finish darksiders, but nah
#3442 [22:30] <xales> Cial: lowballed
#3443 [22:31] <xales> you could watch a lets play minecraft
#3444 [22:31] <xales> so when you get it you can know everything
#3445 [22:31] <xales> heres one I like: http://youtube.com/user/FatalSaint83
#3446 [22:31] <obi_wan> =Yeah right......hmmmmmmmmm
#3447 [22:31] <xales> I learned how to play from that
#3448 [22:31] <xales> :D
#3449 [22:32] <Kealper> ok counter added
#3450 [22:32] <xales> Kealper: that was fast
#3451 [22:32] * Kealper compiles
#3451 [22:32] <obi_wan> I'll learn by building phallus shaped objects while fighting off monsters. XD
#3452 [22:32] <Luciux> payment?
#3453 [22:32] <Luciux> :D
#3454 [22:32] <xales> obi_wan: lol
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#3456 [22:32] <obi_wan> Yup.
#3457 [22:32] <xales> Luciux: we get an absurd number of people asking how about payments
#3458 [22:32] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#3459 [22:32] <xales> and about half dont go away
#3460 [22:32] <Kealper> !count
#3461 [22:33] <Kealper> !payment
#3462 [22:33] <xales> and bitch at us about how Mojang is doing the wrong thing by not adding a notice or something
#3463 [22:33] <Kealper> !count
#3464 [22:33] <xales> lol
#3465 [22:33] <xales> you forgot to square the number
#3466 [22:33] <xales> because most people will send him 50 emails
#3467 [22:33] <xales> because he doesnt answer within 10 minuntes
#3468 [22:33] <Kealper> lol
#3469 [22:34] <xales> whats the Au by the way?
#3470 [22:34] <Kealper> AutoIt Bot
#3471 [22:34] <xales> ah
#3472 [22:34] <Kealper> super creative name....xD
#3473 [22:34] <xales> I call my bots "xalesbot" or "xaleserv" (for the rare occasion I have need of more than 1)
#3474 [22:34] <obi_wan> AutoIt? OH GOD....
#3475 [22:34] * xales is less creative
#3475 [22:35] <obi_wan> I think i have a rapid fire script around here i made with that....>.>
#3476 [22:35] <Kealper> obi_wan: should i introduce you to the most recent proof of concept archiver i made in pure autoit that has speeds comparable to winrar?
#3477 [22:35] <obi_wan> Probably.
#3478 [22:35] <Kealper> granted...it's still chock full of bugs due to it being purely PoC
#3479 [22:36] * odenthaa [odenthaa@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3480 [22:36] <xales> Kealper: does it do the unarchiving itself or just invoke a library? :/
#3481 [22:36] <Kealper> 1000% pure autoit
#3482 [22:36] <xales> that must have taken a while
#3483 [22:36] <Kealper> using it's own archiving format
#3484 [22:36] <Kealper> meh, not too long
#3485 [22:36] <xales> whats the avg compression ratio?
#3486 [22:36] <obi_wan> OVER 9000
#3487 [22:36] <xales> O_O
#3488 [22:37] <Kealper> no compression, just archiving, it was just to see if i could make something to store and transport mc maps faster
#3489 [22:37] <xales> oh
#3490 [22:37] <xales> thought you said compression, my bad
#3491 [22:37] <obi_wan> DERP.
#3492 [22:37] <obi_wan> :(
#3493 [22:37] <xales> obi_wan: so 9001:1 then?
#3494 [22:37] <Kealper> and that benchmark was also with winrar doing only "store" mode aswell... which it doesn't compress either
#3495 [22:38] <obi_wan> somewhere around there
#3496 [22:38] <obi_wan> 9999 for better use in memes.
#3497 [22:38] <xales> or 9000.00000000000000000000000000000001 even
#3498 [22:38] <Kealper> on my computer, it can store a 20mb smp map in under 15 sec O.o
#3499 [22:38] <xales> Kealper: how fast does winrar take to do it?
#3500 [22:38] <Kealper> about the same
#3501 [22:38] <xales> im not sure what the average for doing that would be
#3502 [22:38] * dygituljunky [dygituljunky@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3503 [22:39] <xales> Kealper: is autoit a compiled language or interpreted?
#3504 [22:39] <Kealper> interpreted
#3505 [22:39] <Kealper> so just think if i ported that to a compiled language lol
#3506 [22:39] <xales> yeah
#3507 [22:39] <xales> i was gonna say
#3508 [22:40] <obi_wan> speed= 0ver 9000%(winrar)^2
#3509 [22:40] <obi_wan> :P
#3510 [22:40] <Kealper> lol
#3511 [22:40] <xales> that O is a 0
#3512 [22:40] <xales> :P
#3513 [22:40] <obi_wan> eh i know
#3514 [22:40] <xales> lol
#3515 [22:41] <obi_wan> don't care right about now.
#3516 [22:41] * xales is using a fixed-width font
#3516 [22:41] <xales> O and 0 are almost the exact same
#3517 [22:41] <obi_wan> EXACTLY.
#3518 [22:41] * zander78 [zander78@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3519 [22:41] <obi_wan> My kb is terrible so i hit the 0 instead of o sometimes.
#3520 [22:41] <xales> lol
#3521 [22:42] <zander78> hey guys. im on ubuntu right now and i want to play minecraft classic. i have java but it still wont load. does it just take a long time?
#3522 [22:42] <obi_wan> gonna buy a razer Black Widow Ultimate or just a basic Black Widow....OR A G19. SO MANY OPTIONS.
#3523 [22:42] <xales> zander78: gotta approve the applet too
#3524 [22:42] <Kealper> obi_wan: are you on windows?
#3525 [22:43] <obi_wan> Yeah.
#3526 [22:43] <xales> < zander78> hey guys. im on ubuntu
#3527 [22:43] <obi_wan> Windows 7 64-bit
#3528 [22:43] <xales> oh
#3529 [22:43] <Kealper> did you want to give that PoC archiver a try? lol
#3530 [22:43] * xales whoops
#3530 [22:43] <zander78> yeah
#3531 [22:43] <obi_wan> I don't got anything to archive lol
#3532 [22:43] <xales> zander78: make sure to agree in the popup
#3533 [22:43] <zander78> ivi did
#3534 [22:43] <zander78> i*
#3535 [22:43] <xales> refresh the page
#3536 [22:43] <zander78> i have
#3537 [22:43] <Kealper> easiest test is just to go with a minecraft map lol
#3538 [22:44] <obi_wan> hmmmmm why not.
#3539 [22:44] <xales> obi_wan: http://darksigns.net/fixedwidth.png
#3540 [22:44] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/projects/Arkive/Arkive.exe
#3541 [22:44] <xales> look at the area with the red box
#3542 [22:44] <zander78> its starts to load but then the applet goes black
#3543 [22:45] <Kealper> zander78: ati gfx card running the official ati drivers?
#3544 [22:45] <zander78> yep
#3545 [22:45] <Kealper> there is your problem
#3546 [22:45] <xales> Kealper: pro helper
#3547 [22:45] <zander78> ...
#3548 [22:45] <obi_wan> SHIT.
#3549 [22:45] <obi_wan> I don't have the AutoIt library on here on this OS.
#3550 [22:45] <obi_wan> shitty shit shit.
#3551 [22:45] <Kealper> obi_wan: it's compiled
#3552 [22:46] <obi_wan> it is? fail.
#3553 [22:46] <Kealper> it does not need any runtime or interpreter...it will just work lol
#3554 [22:46] <xales> lol
#3555 [22:46] <Kealper> drag the file or folder you want to archive on to the exe
#3556 [22:46] <obi_wan> kay
#3557 [22:46] <Kealper> it'll open a console window, and then a window asking where to save the .ark file it creates
#3558 [22:46] <obi_wan> kay
#3559 [22:46] <zander78> is their a way i can play the beta for free or no?
#3560 [22:47] <Kealper> likewise, drag a .ark file over the exe to extract it, and it will ask you what directory to extract to
#3561 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> No zenon.
#3562 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> er.
#3563 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> zander78
#3564 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Damn auto-complete.
#3565 [22:47] <Kealper> random highlights ftw!
#3566 [22:47] <obi_wan> wow.
#3567 [22:47] <Kealper> le fast, oui?
#3568 [22:47] <obi_wan> 33MB file in like 2 seconds.
#3569 [22:48] <obi_wan> lolz.
#3570 [22:48] <zander78> does any one have an extra account i can use or no?
#3571 [22:48] <Kealper> and keep in mind, that is 100% autoit...no external calls to anything - not even windows apis
#3572 [22:48] <xales> zander78: I reccomend watching http://youtube.com/user/FatalSaint83 in the mean time
#3573 [22:48] <xales> will help yoo learn to play
#3574 [22:49] <zander78> ok
#3575 [22:49] <Kealper> and btw....what i said about ati official drivers being his problem..i was 100% serious
#3576 [22:49] <xales> Kealper: I didnt think you werent
#3577 [22:49] <Kealper> not being sarcastic or fanboyish at all...i can't use their official drivers under nix to play either
#3578 [22:49] <obi_wan> Yep.
#3579 [22:49] <zander78> my grivers run everything else just fine why would my drivers effect it?
#3580 [22:50] <zander78> drivers *
#3581 [22:50] <obi_wan> The ATI drivers for linux suck.
#3582 [22:50] <Kealper> because ati nix drivers are garbage
#3583 [22:50] <Kealper> what he said
#3584 [22:50] <obi_wan> oh.
#3585 [22:50] <obi_wan> derp.
#3586 [22:50] <zander78> not if you have a graphics card ment for linux opperating systems
#3587 [22:50] <xales> zander78: there are no cards meant for linux
#3588 [22:50] * Kealper facepalms hard
#3588 [22:51] <xales> linux can run just about any card
#3589 [22:51] <xales> if it doesnt have official support, a community member has made a driver for it
#3590 [22:51] <obi_wan> I got it to run an ATI rage that i spilled water on. XD
#3591 [22:51] * xales brings palm towards Kealper face
#3591 [22:51] <Kealper> lol
#3592 [22:51] <obi_wan> i let it dry obviously
#3593 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Nowai
#3594 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> RLY?
#3595 [22:51] <xales> damn autocomplete, made me forget an s
#3596 [22:52] <Kealper> psh, be a man, put it in there while it's soaking wet
#3597 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Add some epsom salts in there as well
#3598 [22:52] <Kealper> unless ofcourse it was saltwater or well water....
#3599 [22:52] <Kealper> lol grey
#3600 [22:52] <zander78> how do i play offline?
#3601 [22:53] <zander78> without account?
#3602 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> What? It's an ATI card.
#3603 [22:53] <xales> zander78: gotta log in first to play offline
#3604 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> It deserves it
#3605 [22:53] <zander78> damn
#3606 [22:53] <Kealper> my ati card hates you now, grey :P
#3607 [22:53] <zander78> i wish i could log on real quick
#3608 [22:53] <obi_wan> Man that was mean.
#3609 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> :P
#3610 [22:53] <zander78> then someone could just change their passsword back
#3611 [22:53] <Kealper> neit zander78
#3612 [22:53] <xales> zander78: and classic runs offline only - it doesnt do any account verification
#3613 [22:54] <obi_wan> No one trusts anyone. It's the INTERNET.
#3614 [22:54] <obi_wan> :P
#3615 [22:54] <zander78> classic isnt working for me right now
#3616 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> heh, hey0's on #hey0
#3617 [22:54] <xales> beta wont work either
#3618 [22:54] <Kealper> idk, there are a few on here that i would trust lol
#3619 [22:54] <zander78> is their a dl client for classic?
#3620 [22:54] <xales> zander78: nope
#3621 [22:54] <xales> and that wont fix the problem either
#3622 [22:54] <zander78> well i have the beta client and it works
#3623 [22:54] <xales> zander78: you have only seen the login window
#3624 [22:55] <xales> the real game isnt even installed
#3625 [22:55] <xales> until you login once
#3626 [22:55] <Kealper> the login window does not use any sort of advanced graphics, nor does the update screen
#3627 [22:55] <zander78> damn
#3628 [22:55] <xales> it only looks for a video device after you login
#3629 [22:59] <zander78> can someone lend me an account so i can atleast get offline mode? i can broadcast a webcam screen if you dont beleive me
#3630 [22:59] * GreyVulpine snerks.
#3630 [23:00] <xales> zander78: once again, offline mode will not work any more than classic
#3631 [23:00] <zander78> ...
#3632 [23:00] <obi_wan> lol again teh Internet prevails.
#3633 [23:00] <obi_wan> Would you ask for it on 4chan? no.
#3634 [23:00] <obi_wan> Or at least I'd hope not.
#3635 [23:00] <zander78> il go back to playing runescape private servers were java does work
#3636 [23:01] <xales> zander78: or you could just get other drivers for your card
#3637 [23:01] <zander78> runescape classic to be exact
#3638 [23:01] <zander78> their is no other drivers for my card. ive looked and looked.
#3639 [23:01] <zander78> unless im blind
#3640 [23:01] <xales> apt-cache search ati
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#3642 [23:02] <Coozie> hey my cousin cant log into his account on my windows based comp but he can on his mac
#3643 [23:02] <Coozie> what is up with that
#3644 [23:02] <xales> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/xserver-xorg-video-ati
#3645 [23:02] <xales> Coozie: could be any number of problems
#3646 [23:02] <zander78> all i got was a list of what uses my driver
#3647 [23:02] <Coozie> such as
#3648 [23:02] <xales> make sure there isnt a firewall running on the windows computer
#3649 [23:03] <xales> zander78: ?
#3650 [23:03] <Coozie> ok there is so ill make it an exception
#3651 [23:03] <Coozie> anything else i should try?
#3652 [23:03] <xales> Coozie: make sure its connected to the internet and everything
#3653 [23:03] <xales> and try the reinstall guide present on http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#3654 [23:03] <Coozie> yea thats all good
#3655 [23:03] <xales> Coozie: whats his username?
#3656 [23:03] <zander78> xales everything at my house is run on ubuntu. windows sucks. i just use wine for somethings i cant get for linux
#3657 [23:04] <Coozie> x405xarmsdealer
#3658 [23:04] <xales> zander78: ok. http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/xserver-xorg-video-ati install taht
#3659 [23:04] <zander78> mmk
#3660 [23:04] <xales> Coozie: that username isnt premium
#3661 [23:04] * Kealper takes this time to point out that his windows works just fine
#3661 [23:04] <xales> Kealper: fine but not optimally
#3662 [23:04] <Coozie> no it should be
#3663 [23:04] <xales> Coozie: nope
#3664 [23:05] <xales> http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=x405xarmsdealer
#3665 [23:05] <Coozie> he payed for it
#3666 [23:05] <xales> !payment
#3667 [23:05] <xales> how long ago?
#3668 [23:05] <Coozie> the week before thanksgiving
#3669 [23:05] <Kealper> !paid x408xarmsdealer
#3670 [23:05] <xales> hmm
#3671 [23:05] <xales> and your sure thats the username?
#3672 [23:05] <Coozie> yes
#3673 [23:05] <xales> Kealper: fu
#3674 [23:05] <Coozie> he can log in
#3675 [23:05] <Coozie> and he has the bank statement
#3676 [23:05] <Coozie> but only on his mac
#3677 [23:05] <xales> Coozie: case sensitive?
#3678 [23:05] <xales> Coozie: its probably a firewall or something like that then
#3679 [23:05] <Coozie> oh my bad 405
#3680 [23:06] <Coozie> x405xarmsdealer
#3681 [23:06] <Kealper> !paid x405xarmsdealer
#3682 [23:06] <Coozie> that is impossible
#3683 [23:06] <Coozie> he has 10 worlds and can play online
#3684 [23:06] <Coozie> but again only from his mac
#3685 [23:06] <Kealper> O.o
#3686 [23:06] <Coozie> he hosts a server sometimes from his comp
#3687 [23:06] * GreyVulpine coughs, modded.
#3687 [23:06] <xales> Coozie: is he using the "play offline" option
#3688 [23:07] <Coozie> most of the time yes but he plays online
#3689 [23:07] <zander78> xales i already have that driver
#3690 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> !paid greyvulpine
#3691 [23:07] <xales> Coozie: I mean when he logs in. you can play multiplayer while using the "play offline" option _when logging in_
#3692 [23:07] <xales> !paid xales
#3693 [23:07] <xales> :D
#3694 [23:07] <Coozie> ok well thats a problem
#3695 [23:08] <Coozie> but i just paid for my account a few mins ago i kno thats gonna take time
#3696 [23:08] <nipper> !paid nipper4369
#3697 [23:08] <Coozie> but idk if i will be able to log in and download with the current program on my computer
#3698 [23:08] <xales> Coozie: if he is using "play offline" to log in
#3699 [23:08] <xales> then the problem is his account isnt premium
#3700 [23:08] <zander78> xales i already have that driver
#3701 [23:08] <Coozie> ok
#3702 [23:08] <xales> what happens when he tries to log into his windows computer?
#3703 [23:08] <xales> zander78: i dont think thats the official one
#3704 [23:08] <Coozie> says not premium
#3705 [23:09] <xales> then thats the problem
#3706 [23:09] <Coozie> ok how do we rectify that
#3707 [23:09] <xales> payment@mojang.com
#3708 [23:09] <zander78> hmm... thats what ubuntu installed when i updated to 10.10
#3709 [23:09] <xales> it will probably take a loooong time though
#3710 [23:09] <Coozie> i just put my payment in and im waiting for processing
#3711 [23:09] <xales> notch is flooded right now
#3712 [23:09] <xales> Coozie: so is everyone else :(
#3713 [23:09] <xales> zander78: then its not the official driver. ubuntu defaults to non-official when it can
#3714 [23:09] <Coozie> ohhhhhhh
#3715 [23:09] <Coozie> ok so i gotta wait to install the game
#3716 [23:09] <Coozie> ?
#3717 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes Coozie
#3718 [23:10] <xales> provided that official driver doesnt have an approved license
#3719 [23:10] <zander78> no i set to use official ones first
#3720 [23:10] <zander78> ill check thoughn
#3721 [23:10] <zander78> though*
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#3723 [23:10] <Coozie> thanks GreyVulpine
#3724 [23:10] <xales> "This package provides the 'radeon' driver for the AMD/ATI Radeon, FireGL, FireMV, FirePro and FireStream series.
#3725 [23:10] <xales> Note that this is not the same as the ATI-provided, binary-only, 'fglrx' driver, which provides additional 3D functionality for some newer Radeon cards, but is not supported. "
#3726 [23:11] <zander78> wow. so i guess im stuck
#3727 [23:11] <zander78> time to see if it will work on wine
#3728 [23:11] <xales> download the official driver
#3729 [23:11] <xales> and try that
#3730 [23:11] <xales> ati.com
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#3732 [23:13] <Coozie> will i be receiving a confirmation email once the transaction goes through?
#3733 [23:13] <xales> most likely
#3734 [23:13] <xales> it may go to spam though
#3735 [23:13] <Coozie> ok thats fine
#3736 [23:13] <Coozie> thanks for yalls help
#3737 [23:14] <xales> no prob
#3738 [23:14] <Coozie> im actually glad the servers are flooded
#3739 [23:14] <Coozie> thats good news for the future
#3740 [23:15] <Coozie> hey xales could you run just 405armsdealer for premium?
#3741 [23:15] <xales> !paid 405armsdealer
#3742 [23:15] <Coozie> ok cool so yea he just effed up and told me x's
#3743 [23:15] <Coozie> ok yea im fine then im just waiting on a busy server
#3744 [23:16] <Coozie> happy holidays @xales ill ttyl
#3745 [23:17] <zander78> xales. i think i found the problem here is my graphics card model: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce GTS 250]
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#3747 [23:17] * Kealper sighs
#3747 [23:17] <xales> update drivers for that then
#3748 [23:18] <obi_wan> oooooooooo GTS 250.
#3749 [23:18] <What2212> Alright, I just bought the game on paypal but my account isn't registering my purchase. Do I need to enter a code or something?
#3750 [23:18] <obi_wan> Feeling the speed melt my face off.
#3751 [23:18] <xales> !payment
#3752 [23:19] <What2212> !fuck
#3753 [23:19] <xales> What2212: just be patient
#3754 [23:19] <xales> they are flooded right now
#3755 [23:19] <zander78> "NVIDIA accelerated graphics card (version current) [recommended]
#3756 [23:19] <What2212> Haha alright, thanks.
#3757 [23:20] <xales> and its christmas, a weekend, and the middle of the night
#3758 [23:20] <xales> for them
#3759 [23:20] <What2212> I didn't know if it was automatic or not.
#3760 [23:20] <xales> well, actually early morning. but whatever
#3761 [23:20] <xales> What2212: it is automatic
#3762 [23:20] <xales> but the automated thing is broken aparrantly
#3763 [23:20] <What2212> Ah, I see.
#3764 [23:20] <obi_wan> So they're, hypothetically, getting raped in the ass by a sideways telegraph node.
#3765 [23:20] <What2212> O.o
#3766 [23:20] <Kealper> lol
#3767 [23:20] <obi_wan> yessir.
#3768 [23:21] <xales> also, thanks for not bitching at us. we occasionally get someone in here who thinks its our fault specifically and that we should do somthing about it
#3769 [23:21] <What2212> Yeah, I figured. I wasn't going to be an asshole about it
#3770 [23:22] <What2212> I shall wait. :(
#3771 [23:23] <obi_wan> Im good at waiting.
#3772 [23:23] <zander78> ok guy i need to go bed. i hope i can figure it out tomorrow or sometime soon so i can get premium and play with you guys
#3773 [23:23] <obi_wan> Had to wait a MONTH for my RMA on my 5750. >.>
#3774 [23:24] <xales> zander78: good luck
#3775 [23:24] <zander78> cya
#3776 [23:24] <Kealper> o.o
#3777 [23:24] <obi_wan> im waiting too bro dont sweat it
#3778 [23:24] <obi_wan> later./
#3779 [23:24] <xales> Kealper: ?
#3780 [23:24] * AppleReviewr [AppleReviewr@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3781 [23:24] <Kealper> waiting a month for an rma
#3782 [23:25] <xales> ah
#3783 [23:25] <obi_wan> Well they took 2 weeks to determine it was faulty, and then 2 weeks to ship it back.
#3784 [23:25] <Kealper> :/
#3785 [23:25] <obi_wan> From Cali to the East coast. >.>
#3786 [23:25] <obi_wan> I shipped it THERE in 2 days.
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#3788 [23:29] * Kealper mods his client and replaces cat.ogg and 13.ogg with different music
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#3790 [23:35] <Kealper> hmm
#3791 [23:35] <Kealper> are the .mus files in the streaming folder encrypted versions of their .ogg counterparts?
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#3793 [23:41] <FrankMiner> Hey folks
#3794 [23:41] <FrankMiner> How's it going?
#3795 [23:41] <Kealper> good, yourself?
#3796 [23:41] <FrankMiner> Doing okay.
#3797 [23:42] <FrankMiner> I'm trying to set up an MC server for my brothers and I to play on. I keep having issues with port forwarding.
#3798 [23:42] <Kealper> alright, what issues?
#3799 [23:42] <Kealper> and when you say brothers, are you all in the same house?
#3800 [23:42] <FrankMiner> Yes, we're all in the same place, on one network
#3801 [23:42] <Kealper> oh, no need to forward ports then
#3802 [23:43] <FrankMiner> yeah? Can they join using their computers IP?
#3803 [23:43] <Kealper> have them all connect to the host's internal ip (or computer name)
#3804 [23:43] <FrankMiner> Hmm. Okay. Let me see if I can get that working properly.
#3805 [23:48] <FrankMiner> That sort of worked. I managed to log in, but was unable to connect, with the message kicking (IP) You need to log in!
#3806 [23:49] * GreyVulpine coughs, "Wrong type of server?"
#3806 [23:51] <FrankMiner> Sorry, what do you mean?
#3807 [23:51] <xales> are you playing survival or classic?
#3808 [23:51] <Kealper> hmm...adding custom music to the records seems to break the 3d effects on the music..so it;s just like an ingame media player lol
#3809 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> You're using a downloaded client, correct?
#3810 [23:51] <xales> Kealper: lol
#3811 [23:52] * Kealper puts in green record to play some Korn
#3811 [23:52] <FrankMiner> @Greyvulpine sorry, are you asking me?
#3812 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3813 [23:53] <FrankMiner> @GV I'm trying to set up a server for my brothers and I to play. So far I've messed around with some port forwarding settings, but haven't had any luck.
#3814 [23:53] * GreyVulpine nods
#3814 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> What is the filename of the server you're trying to run?
#3815 [23:54] <FrankMiner> start server.bat
#3816 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> That's why
#3817 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> That's a classic server
#3818 [23:54] <FrankMiner> Ahh, gotcha.
#3819 [23:54] <FrankMiner> Where can I get the beta server?
#3820 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Same page where you got the beta client
#3821 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> It's at the bottom of the page
#3822 [23:54] <Kealper> !server
#3823 [23:54] <FrankMiner> Okay. I'll go try to find it. Thank you.
#3824 [23:57] <FrankMiner> Ahh, that works just fine. Thank you folks for pointing me in the right direction.
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