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#2 [00:00] <Kealper> woh....i just timed out, got a [SEVERE] exception in my server console..and now i can't reconnect..gg
#3 [00:01] <xales> gg Windows
#4 [00:01] <Kealper> it's a java error
#5 [00:02] <Kealper> java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: -1
#6 [00:02] <Kealper> and it's doing it each time i log in :/
#7 [00:02] <xales> restart server?
#8 [00:02] <Kealper> i did, still doing it...i wonder if it was related to me changing crap
#9 [00:03] <xales> probably
#10 [00:03] <xales> or your world got corrupted
#11 [00:03] <Kealper> yeah
#12 [00:03] <Kealper> fuck
#13 [00:03] <Kealper> looks like something didn't write correctly and the world corrupted :S
#14 [00:04] <Kealper> my castle-esque outpost is gone now :(
#15 [00:04] <xales> :(
#16 [00:04] <xales> /backups
#17 [00:04] <Kealper> yeah...about that....
#18 [00:05] <Kealper> had this been running on my server, it would have had backups....but alas...i was lazy and didn't move it off my computer yet
#19 [00:05] <Kealper> gg me!
#20 [00:05] <xales> its windows. SYSTEM RESTORE! AWAAAAAY!
#21 [00:05] <xales> lol
#22 [00:05] <Kealper> lol
#23 [00:07] <xales> !check 217.123.6.253
#24 [00:07] <Kealper> i really wish i could set the timeout on that
#25 [00:07] <xales> you cant?
#26 [00:08] <Kealper> nope :S
#27 [00:08] <xales> silly autoit
#28 [00:08] <xales> im fairly sure winsock supports timeouts too
#29 [00:09] <Kealper> i'm not even sure that can be changed
#30 [00:09] <Kealper> meh...i'll check, if minecraft waits exactly 20 sec before calling a connection dead, then it's not changable
#31 [00:10] <xales> Kealper: how are you checking it now?
#32 [00:10] <xales> are you actually opening minecraft? O_o
#33 [00:10] <Kealper> already had mc open lol
#34 [00:10] <xales> for the check though?
#35 [00:11] <Kealper> uhh....i was just going to type in an address like google.com and start counting till it declared it not there
#36 [00:11] <xales> wait what?
#37 [00:11] <xales> how do you have it doing checks now? :/
#38 [00:12] <Kealper> aubot?
#39 [00:12] <xales> yeah
#40 [00:12] <Kealper> it just opens a raw tcp connection to said ip/port, if the connection is accepted, then it says that it's running, if it is not accepted (refused, or timeout) then it says it's down
#41 [00:13] <clone1018> !check 127.0.0.1
#42 [00:13] <xales> Kealper: im fairly certain you can set a timeout then
#43 [00:13] <Kealper> and yes, minecraft waits 20 sec aswell before declaring a timeout, so i think that 20 sec wait might be something with the tcp stuff
#44 [00:13] <xales> as long as autoit supports that api
#45 [00:14] <xales> Kealper: depends on what the error is
#46 [00:14] <Kealper> connection timeouts
#47 [00:14] <xales> its likely "connection refused" if its a router, but that should return immediately
#48 [00:14] <xales> or rather, if its a port forward problem
#49 [00:14] <xales> my english skills fail more the later I am awake
#50 [00:15] <Kealper> if there is a forward on, but no service is running on said computer, it returns instantly with a connection actively refused
#51 [00:15] <Kealper> if there is no forward set up, or no machine at the end of the forward, it will wait the full timeout
#52 [00:15] <xales> Kealper: depends on the router I guess
#53 [00:15] <Kealper> since a router will not refuse the connection, it will ignore it if it's set wrong almost all the time
#54 [00:16] <xales> mine refuses it
#55 [00:16] <xales> it should refuse - thats the standard
#56 [00:16] <Kealper> sadly, in autoit...tcpconnect is a blocking function...meaning it will halt the code at that line until that function returns
#57 [00:16] <xales> :(
#58 [00:17] <xales> threaded?
#59 [00:17] <Kealper> nope :S
#60 [00:17] <xales> this is why using scripting is bad for servers ;)
#61 [00:18] <Kealper> there are workarounds...aubot uses an easy workaround with using multiple single threaded processes
#62 [00:19] <xales> ah
#63 [00:19] <xales> just reap the process after (timeout) seconds
#64 [00:19] <Kealper> and the processes can either use stdio, named pipes, or tcp/udp to communicate
#65 [00:19] <Kealper> yea, that's what i could do
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#67 [00:19] <xales> windows supports named pipes?
#68 [00:19] <Kealper> indeed
#69 [00:20] <xales> news to me
#70 [00:20] <Kealper> news to me that named pipes is used on other oses lol...i know about unix socket files, which are basically the same...but i didn't know other oses called them named pipes O.o
#71 [00:21] <xales> In computing, a named pipe (also known as a FIFO for its behavior) is an extension to the traditional pipe concept on Unix and Unix-like systems, and is one of the methods of inter-process communication. The concept is also found in Microsoft Windows, although the semantics differ substantially
#72 [00:22] <Kealper> TIL!
#73 [00:22] <Kealper> lol
#74 [00:22] <xales> til?
#75 [00:23] <Kealper> Today I Learned
#76 [00:23] <xales> oh
#77 [00:23] <xales> duh
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#79 [00:28] <Jyosua> Alright, so I bought the game, but when I downloaded the client and tried to log in, it said user not premium. Does it take a while to work?
#80 [00:29] <xales> !payment
#81 [00:29] <Jyosua> Alright, thank you.
#82 [00:29] <xales> np
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#85 [00:36] <Kealper> crap...it is a mega-corrupt chunk on my map that is causing the crash....just logged in on a friend's account and it works fine (he's in a different spot)
#86 [00:37] <xales> :(
#87 [00:37] <Kealper> but i can see my outpost in the distance so it's not that....
#88 [00:37] * Kealper walks around until it crashes
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#89 [00:38] <xales> thats good
#90 [00:38] <xales> i guess
#91 [00:38] <Kealper> crap
#92 [00:38] <Kealper> it didn't crash
#93 [00:38] <xales> maybe if you delete bad chunk from world folder
#94 [00:38] <xales> it will regenerate
#95 [00:39] * Kealper deletes Kealper.dat -.-
#95 [00:39] <xales> lol
#96 [00:39] <Kealper> wat....it fixed it after logging in to his account...
#97 [00:39] <Kealper> ok....weird
#98 [00:40] <Kealper> but whatever
#99 [00:40] <xales> lol
#100 [00:40] * Kealper makes backup
#100 [00:40] <xales> windows.. :(
#101 [00:40] <Kealper> java.. :(
#102 [00:40] <Kealper> so much windows hate lol
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#104 [00:41] <xales> lol
#105 [00:41] <xales> epic error
#106 [00:42] <xales> http://assets.yodawgpics.com/hashed_silo_content/silo_content/36148/resized/foo.jpg?1286784152
#107 [00:42] <Kealper> lol
#108 [00:44] <Dylanthulhu> Ah, okay, someone might want to make a post on the forums with what is in the greeting. There are several people (initially myself included) flipping their SHIT there right now.
#109 [00:44] <xales> Dylanthulhu: yup. everyone does :/
#110 [00:44] <Kealper> yeah, fun stuff, isn't it?
#111 [00:44] <xales> I believe people have posted already on the forums
#112 [00:44] <xales> oh kealper, someone read the greeting
#113 [00:44] <xales> O_o
#114 [00:45] <Kealper> ikr?
#115 [00:45] <xales> is he the first?
#116 [00:45] <Kealper> has to be one of maybe 10, tops
#117 [00:45] <xales> :(
#118 [00:45] <xales> Dylanthulhu: congrats and thanks for reading that
#119 [00:46] <Kealper> most people ignore it and then expect us to fix the problem....lol
#120 [00:46] <Dylanthulhu> lol, no problem. I had to go edit an angry thread on the forums. >.< Feel like a jackass.
#121 [00:46] <xales> Dylanthulhu: you have every right to be upset about not getting something you paid for
#122 [00:46] <xales> however
#123 [00:46] <xales> just think of it like your waiting for the CD in the mail
#124 [00:46] <xales> :)
#125 [00:46] <Kealper> lol
#126 [00:47] <Dylanthulhu> Then to top things off I just decide to play offline.. so I mine a bunch of coal, make some torches, stick one on the wall in the cave I was building a house in.. roof collapses.
#127 [00:48] <Kealper> ouch :S
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#129 [00:48] <Dylanthulhu> lol
#130 [00:50] * xales wonders why people do that
#130 [00:51] <Cial> xales, didnt see a name they knew or it was a bot
#131 [00:51] <xales> Mibbit as the username for a bot? :/
#132 [00:52] <obi_wan> lulz
#133 [00:52] <xales> also, what do you mean by the first part?
#134 [00:52] <Kealper> maybe....they do that beacuse they come in here, see what AuBot tells them, (and that answers their question) so they leave?
#135 [00:52] <Cial> or that too
#136 [00:52] <xales> Kealper: yeah I thought of that, but people do it elsewhere too
#137 [00:53] <Kealper> oh...idk
#138 [00:53] <Kealper> !count
#139 [00:53] <Kealper> only 4?
#140 [00:53] <Kealper> wait...nvm...i reloaded it recently
#141 [00:54] <Cial> lol
#142 [00:54] <Cial> only four......thousand
#143 [00:54] <Kealper> that counts each time !payment is used lol
#144 [00:55] <Count> wait, the roof collapsed, how?
#145 [00:55] <Kealper> gravel or sand
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#147 [00:55] <Count> but how did the torch cause the roof to collapse?
#148 [00:55] <xales> the torch will make the sand/gravel realize its there
#149 [00:56] <xales> and start obeying gravity
#150 [00:56] <xales> methinks
#151 [00:56] <Kealper> indeed
#152 [00:56] <Dylanthulhu> Sand. I have no idea what happened, I stuck a torch to the top block of the wall, and the roof fell on me. lol
#153 [00:56] <Kealper> especially sand, i've seen that happen a lot
#154 [00:56] <Kealper> it will stick together until disturbed, then it all falls down
#155 [00:56] <Cial> sand physics love torches
#156 [00:57] <Count> yeah, I think I had that happen to me yesterday
#157 [00:57] <Count> stepped on a block of sand, had sort of a sand avalanche carry me down a few feet
#158 [00:59] <Kealper> dislike....i can't use vlc to convert audio...
#159 [00:59] <Kealper> well...vorbis audio
#160 [01:00] <Dylanthulhu> I had a pirated copy of Minecraft on my old computer. (Bug-abag, I know.) and I wish I had the map from that. XD Giant gravel mountain in the shape of a skull, crying lava down onto a wooded hillside, starting a huge fire.
#161 [01:00] <Kealper> o.o
#162 [01:00] <Dylanthulhu> Well, I say old computer, same computer, that hard drive died.
#163 [01:00] <Cial> ouch
#164 [01:01] <Cial> sucks for you
#165 [01:02] <Dylanthulhu> I had a lot of free time on my hands at the start of the semester.
#166 [01:03] <Cial> anyone else noticed that burning logs dont seem to be infinite any more
#167 [01:03] <Kealper> O.o
#168 [01:03] <Kealper> i'll have to try it
#169 [01:03] <Cial> or they dont seem to be infinite for me
#170 [01:04] * Cial tried to make a fire place
#170 [01:07] <Count> they've been infinite for me
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#173 [01:30] <Hymne> when is the payment processing going to be fixed.. im going crazy
#174 [01:30] <Kealper> we know just as much as you when it comes to this :S
#175 [01:30] <xales> Hymne: its christmas, and a weekend. its bin bout a day :/
#176 [01:30] <Hymne> haha ok
#177 [01:30] <xales> certainly no more than 2 or 3 days
#178 [01:30] <Hymne> i super excitd to play
#179 [01:30] <Hymne> haha
#180 [01:30] <xales> I hope
#181 [01:31] <Cial> worst case scenario you have to send an email
#182 [01:31] <Hymne> i sent one
#183 [01:31] <Hymne> haha
#184 [01:31] <xales> Kealper: if its not fixed soon and people we sent away come back, I forsee problems :(
#185 [01:31] <Cial> and pray that yours is the one that doenst crash the Mojang email server
#186 [01:31] <Kealper> xales: indeed
#187 [01:31] <Kealper> i'll pretend to be afk that day :P
#188 [01:31] <xales> might need a +M here, which would suck
#189 [01:31] <xales> for people who wanted real help
#190 [01:32] <xales> Kealper: so....then im stuck with the mess?
#191 [01:32] <xales> :(
#192 [01:32] <Kealper> yea, i would want to avoid m at all costs :S
#193 [01:32] <xales> capital M = only users authed with nickserv can talk
#194 [01:32] <xales> that will slow down some of em
#195 [01:32] <Kealper> well TIL again!
#196 [01:32] <Cial> sadly no one reads the topic
#197 [01:32] <xales> of course not
#198 [01:32] <Cial> or you could put the message there
#199 [01:32] <Hymne> what is the problem with the server?
#200 [01:33] <Cial> Hymne, nothing
#201 [01:33] <Cial> yet
#202 [01:33] <Kealper> anywho, i'd only be pretending to be afk...so i would still kick the roudy ones lol
#203 [01:33] <xales> too many people emailing them
#204 [01:33] <xales> may soon be a problem
#205 [01:33] <xales> Kealper: /knockout
#206 [01:33] * Cial wonders if this will turn into #Roadhouse instead of #MineCraftHelp
#206 [01:33] <Kealper> i'll be totally honest with you....i have never heard of that before...and never seen something to that effect in said rfc when i was making aubot...
#207 [01:34] <xales> Kicks user off the channel and bans him/her. Ban lasts the given number of seconds or 5 minutes by default.
#208 [01:34] <Kealper> what'sitdo?
#209 [01:34] <Kealper> oh
#210 [01:34] <xales> my client has it, its not sometihng in the RFC
#211 [01:34] <xales> its a convience command
#212 [01:34] <xales> :)
#213 [01:34] <Kealper> ahh....clientside thing
#214 [01:34] <Cial> magic scripts
#215 [01:34] <Kealper> if it gets too bad then i'll make a module to do something like that and op aubot for the day
#216 [01:35] <xales> see if your client has /kickban
#217 [01:35] <xales> thats similar
#218 [01:36] <Kealper> yea xchat has a kickban, but i think it permabans then
#219 [01:36] <Kealper> them*
#220 [01:36] <Cial> pretty sure it does
#221 [01:36] * Kealper fires up L4D2
#221 [01:37] <xales> l4d2? at this hour
#222 [01:37] <xales> you must be crazy
#223 [01:37] <Kealper> bah
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#226 [01:50] <zouhair> Hi, how do I know if the code I got is an alpha or a beta?
#227 [01:50] <kontroll> How much did you pay? ;P
#228 [01:51] <zouhair> got it as a gift :)
#229 [01:51] <KART35|iPod> well
#230 [01:51] <KART35|iPod> either way
#231 [01:51] <KART35|iPod> its beta
#232 [01:52] <KART35|iPod> but you might have an alpha account if it was bought before the 20th
#233 [01:52] <zouhair> an awesome Redditor just made my sister's day
#234 [01:53] <zouhair> asking him if it is an alpha would be just not nice, he did already an awesome thing :)
#235 [01:53] <zouhair> thanks anyway guys :)
#236 [01:54] <xales> no problem
#237 [01:54] <KART35|iPod> well
#238 [01:54] <KART35|iPod> there is a way to check
#239 [01:54] <zouhair> oh
#240 [01:55] <KART35|iPod> but it will take a while
#241 [01:55] <KART35|iPod> if you have an alpha account
#242 [01:55] <zouhair> yes?
#243 [01:55] <KART35|iPod> and when mc gets out of beta
#244 [01:55] <zouhair> a friend has one
#245 [01:55] <zouhair> hehe
#246 [01:55] <KART35|iPod> and you have all the features of the new mc
#247 [01:55] <zouhair> ok I get you
#248 [01:56] <KART35|iPod> you have an alpha account
#249 [01:56] <xales> KART35|iPod: actually no
#250 [01:56] <zouhair> anyway she'll enjoy it anyway
#251 [01:56] <xales> beta gets release
#252 [01:56] <xales> just not expansions
#253 [01:56] <MK> [AMSG] Merry Christmas y'all, good night!
#254 [01:56] <KART35|iPod> meh
#255 [01:56] <zouhair> xales: if she can't get the expos she'll know she got the beta :)
#256 [01:57] <zouhair> AND MERRY XMAS TO YOU ALL
#257 [01:57] <xales> zouhair: probably several years before youll even know :/
#258 [01:57] <KART35|iPod> just wathc out for creepers :P
#259 [01:57] <xales> merry xmas to you too
#260 [01:57] <MK> thanks
#261 [01:58] <zouhair> xales: until then she'll enjoy it fully :)
#262 [01:58] <zouhair> hehe yeah godam creepers
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#264 [02:02] <the_late_man> ahh
#265 [02:02] <the_late_man> one hour until christmas
#266 [02:02] <xales> :)
#267 [02:02] <the_late_man> what the hell am I doing on irc?
#268 [02:02] <kontroll> Avoiding the pissfest? :P
#269 [02:03] <Christoegennian> may as well have a christmasy name :)
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#271 [02:07] <aetherian> gosh darn it
#272 [02:07] <xales> ?
#273 [02:07] <aetherian> I keep disconnecting
#274 [02:08] <xales> what error do you get
#275 [02:08] <Christoygennian> >.>
#276 [02:08] <Christoygennian> not even funny...
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#279 [02:10] <Christougennian> now I think I'm just spelling it wrong... oh well
#280 [02:10] <xales> lol
#281 [02:10] <xales> you can change your name with /nick
#282 [02:10] <Christougennian> I know
#283 [02:11] <Christougennian> >.>
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#285 [02:11] <Christougennian> what kind of utter imbecile do you think I am?
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#289 [02:11] <xales> ^
#290 [02:11] <Payment> ^lol
#291 [02:11] <Christougennian> what do you see?
#292 [02:11] <Christougennian> what is it?
#293 [02:12] <Christougennian> what do you want?
#294 [02:12] <Christougennian> so I DC a bunch, everyone on this channel knows this
#295 [02:12] <xales> lol
#296 [02:12] <xales> I wasnt sure if you were leaving to change your nick
#297 [02:12] <Payment> stop loading porn
#298 [02:12] <xales> i assumed you were
#299 [02:12] <Christougennian> I go on here like 12/5, and it's always the same
#300 [02:12] <xales> im on here literally 24/7 fml
#301 [02:12] <Christougennian> so, I left because I accidently clicked the thing while holding the shift key, on xchat
#302 [02:13] <xales> lol
#303 [02:13] <Christougennian> I mean, I'm active 12/7
#304 [02:13] <Christougennian> err
#305 [02:13] <Christougennian> 12/5
#306 [02:13] <Christougennian> sometimes on weekends
#307 [02:13] <Christougennian> if I can
#308 [02:13] <Christougennian> you haven't seen me here?
#309 [02:13] <Christougennian> *aetherian
#310 [02:13] <Christougennian> *the_late_man
#311 [02:13] <xales> I might have not been on at the same time as you
#312 [02:13] <Christougennian> *BadNetMan
#313 [02:14] <xales> hmm, i recognize the names
#314 [02:14] <Christougennian> mmhmm
#315 [02:14] <xales> cant remember seeing you talk though
#316 [02:14] <Christougennian> I'm the guy who's making incessant chatter all day long
#317 [02:14] <xales> im fairly new to #minecrafthelp though
#318 [02:14] <xales> only been here a few days
#319 [02:14] <Christougennian> and then rants on about how he hated chemistry at 2:00 am
#320 [02:14] <xales> lol
#321 [02:14] <Christougennian> oh, I've been offline the past 2-3 days
#322 [02:14] <Christougennian> family and all
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#324 [02:15] <xales> ah
#325 [02:15] <Christougennian> mmhmm
#326 [02:16] <Christougennian> I just changed to this nick because it's christmasy :)D
#327 [02:16] <Christougennian> :D)
#328 [02:16] <Christougennian> err
#329 [02:16] <Christougennian> failcombo
#330 [02:16] <Christougennian> (:D
#331 [02:16] <xales> ah
#332 [02:16] <xales> lol
#333 [02:17] <Christougennian> is there anyone else actually active?
#334 [02:18] <xales> not at this hour
#335 [02:18] <xales> 2am here on the east coast ._.
#336 [02:18] <Christougennian> only 11:18 here
#337 [02:18] <Christougennian> ima stay here till like 12, then do a channelwide alert of merry christmas
#338 [02:18] <Christougennian> just to piss- I mean, bring joy to people
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#340 [02:20] <xales> lol
#341 [02:20] <Christougennian> if I can remember the command...
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#343 [02:21] <Jimmy> HELLOS
#344 [02:21] <Jimmy> can someBODY help me
#345 [02:21] <Christougennian> mayBE
#346 [02:21] <Jimmy> ok so
#347 [02:21] <Jimmy> does this help with multiplayer
#348 [02:21] <Christougennian> prayhaps it does
#349 [02:22] <Jimmy> my friend started a ip thigny
#350 [02:22] <Jimmy> we played on it yesterday
#351 [02:22] <Jimmy> hes the host, but today
#352 [02:22] <Jimmy> when i try to connect
#353 [02:22] <Jimmy> it just keeps going connection timed out
#354 [02:22] <Jimmy> his work
#355 [02:22] <Jimmy> but mine doesnt work
#356 [02:22] <Jimmy> :(
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#358 [02:22] <Christougennian> he has the server running?
#359 [02:22] <Jimmy> ya
#360 [02:22] <xales> Jimmy: his IP probably changed
#361 [02:22] <ProfOak_> Oh wait, the website is acting up right now?
#362 [02:23] <Jimmy> The ip is still the same
#363 [02:23] <Jimmy> he connected with the same ip
#364 [02:23] <Christougennian> well, you need a couple tools to fix this
#365 [02:23] <Christougennian> first of all
#366 [02:23] <Christougennian> do you have a chainsaw?
#367 [02:23] <Jimmy> a chainsaw?
#368 [02:23] <Jimmy> o.o
#369 [02:23] <Christougennian> mmhmm
#370 [02:23] <Jimmy> whats that?
#371 [02:23] <Christougennian> only one thing left to do when this kind o- wait wtf you mean?
#372 [02:24] <Jimmy> like i cant connect
#373 [02:24] <Jimmy> -.-
#374 [02:24] <ProfOak_> Hey, does anyone have issues with minecraft.net loading in general (not payment related)
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#376 [02:24] <Jimmy> the site works fine
#377 [02:24] <mudpit> uhm i need help with my server
#378 [02:24] <mudpit> people cant connect
#379 [02:24] <mudpit> my ip did change
#380 [02:24] <mudpit> i changed it back
#381 [02:24] <ProfOak_> It works fine for me too, except on one computer, and I'm not sure why
#382 [02:24] <mudpit> but people cant connect
#383 [02:25] <mudpit> anyone know the solution for the ip change
#384 [02:25] <mudpit> ?
#385 [02:26] <Christougennian> jackhammer?
#386 [02:26] <ProfOak_> Well I can't access the website at all from one computer. I have no idea why. I can go to it via proxy, or on another computer, but not under normal browsing conditions. Any clue why?
#387 [02:26] <Christougennian> kick it :D that always works on cars in movies :D
#388 [02:26] <mudpit> it works for me
#389 [02:26] <mudpit> perfectly fine
#390 [02:26] <Jimmy> site works for me
#391 [02:26] <Jimmy> too
#392 [02:26] <mudpit> its just my server dont work for me
#393 [02:26] <mudpit> i can connect
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#395 [02:26] <mudpit> but people cant
#396 [02:26] <mudpit> cause my ip changed
#397 [02:26] <lolwut> hey guys
#398 [02:26] <ProfOak_> The site works for me and everyone else, except for my one computer
#399 [02:27] <Christougennian> lolwut?
#400 [02:27] <xales> mudpit: there is no solution
#401 [02:27] <ProfOak_> I'm not questioning the servers running the site, I'm questioning why my one machine can't access it
#402 [02:27] <lolwut> do y'all have time for a quick question?
#403 [02:27] <xales> running a server at home means your ip will change
#404 [02:27] <xales> lolwut: ask your question
#405 [02:27] <Christougennian> no. shoot, lolz?
#406 [02:27] <mudpit> my ip changed so i gave them a new on e
#407 [02:27] <mudpit> and i can connect with new one
#408 [02:27] <mudpit> but they cant
#409 [02:27] <mudpit> why?
#410 [02:27] <lolwut> I downloaded the latest .exe but when I go up to a tree, it never harvests
#411 [02:28] <lolwut> I hit it hundreds of times
#412 [02:28] <xales> mudpit: does the new ip start with 192.168?
#413 [02:28] <lolwut> am I just retarded?
#414 [02:28] <mudpit> its the spawn protection
#415 [02:28] <xales> lolwut: are you playing multiplayer?
#416 [02:28] <mudpit> try going away from spawn
#417 [02:28] <lolwut> no, thats in singleplayer
#418 [02:28] <mudpit> uhm new ip starts with 192 168 yes
#419 [02:28] <lolwut> I've had no problems with multiplayer
#420 [02:28] <xales> lolwut: what are the specs of the computer your on?
#421 [02:28] <xales> mudpit: thats the wrong ip then
#422 [02:28] <mudpit> what do you mean
#423 [02:28] <xales> thats your _local_ ip
#424 [02:28] <xales> not external ip
#425 [02:29] <mudpit> yeah
#426 [02:29] <Christougennian> lolwut: you are playing singleplayer, no?
#427 [02:29] <mudpit> my local changed
#428 [02:29] <lolwut> xales: Win7 with Intel Core 2 quad @2.66GhZ and 6GB RAM
#429 [02:29] <mudpit> and my external too
#430 [02:29] <lolwut> yes, singleplayer
#431 [02:29] <mudpit> i gave them new external
#432 [02:29] <mudpit> and i changed my internal too
#433 [02:29] <xales> lolwut: I have no idea
#434 [02:29] <mudpit> cause they both changed
#435 [02:29] <xales> mudpit: changing your internal will break port forwarding
#436 [02:29] <mudpit> ah
#437 [02:29] <mudpit> AH
#438 [02:29] <mudpit> OHHH
#439 [02:29] <Christougennian> lolwut: you are holding down the left click, no?
#440 [02:29] <mudpit> YOURE GENIUS
#441 [02:29] <mudpit> LOL
#442 [02:29] <xales> lol
#443 [02:29] <mudpit> thanks man
#444 [02:29] <mudpit> :)
#445 [02:29] <xales> yw
#446 [02:29] <lolwut> yes
#447 [02:30] <xales> lolwut: gotta hold it a while
#448 [02:30] <Christougennian> mmhmm
#449 [02:30] <Christougennian> try two days
#450 [02:30] <Christougennian> and get back to us then
#451 [02:30] <lolwut> will do, thanks!
#452 [02:30] <Christougennian> glad to be of service
#453 [02:31] <xales> lol
#454 [02:31] <mudpit> thanks xales
#455 [02:31] <mudpit> perfectly working now
#456 [02:31] <mudpit> :)
#457 [02:31] <mudpit> im stupid
#458 [02:31] <mudpit> rofl
#459 [02:31] <Christougennian> well
#460 [02:31] <mudpit> TIME TO PLAY!
#461 [02:31] <Christougennian> I'm not one to disagerr
#462 [02:31] <xales> mudpit: enjoy
#463 [02:32] <Christougennian> and I failZeZ at spelling right now apparently
#464 [02:32] <Christougennian> at too damn late at night
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#466 [02:36] <Payment> <-
#467 [02:36] <Payment> <_<
#468 [02:37] <Christougennian> <------
#469 [02:37] <Payment> <-----
#470 [02:38] <Christougennian> <----------<
#471 [02:38] <Cial> Payment, wtf?
#472 [02:38] <xales> lol
#473 [02:38] <Payment> My name is my problem. Since 48 hours. Just bored when I logged in today.
#474 [02:38] * Christougennian kills himself
#474 [02:38] <xales> Payment: its christmas, they picked a bad time to have payment issues
#475 [02:38] <Christougennian> >:_;
#476 [02:38] <xales> it should be resolved today or tomorrow though
#477 [02:39] <Cial> aka be patient
#478 [02:39] <xales> likely today
#479 [02:39] <Christougennian> ima afk for a lil
#480 [02:39] <xales> no need to announce it Christougennian
#481 [02:39] <Christougennian> ...
#482 [02:39] <Christougennian> THERE IS >:O
#483 [02:39] <Christougennian> besides
#484 [02:39] <Christougennian> you're only making abigger deal about by replying
#485 [02:39] <xales> lol
#486 [02:42] <fork> oh look almost xmas again
#487 [02:42] <fork> time to get drunk and pretend its not boring again
#488 [02:42] <xales> lol
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#490 [02:45] <kontroll> Pretending might work.
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#492 [02:48] <fork> i bought myself a coffee maker
#493 [02:48] <fork> and an r12->r134a retrofit kit for my old as fuck vehicles
#494 [02:48] <xales> lol
#495 [02:49] <fork> then i found out i have to flush the r12 and mineral oil out of the current system first
#496 [02:49] <fork> $hooray$
#497 [02:50] <fork> christmas eve dinner, macaroni and cheese~~~
#498 [02:50] <xales> lol
#499 [02:50] <Christougennian> aahaa
#500 [02:51] <fork> listening to assholes light fireworks on christmas eve
#501 [02:51] <fork> "santa hunting"
#502 [02:52] <Christougennian> ooh
#503 [02:52] <Gigathrash> Does the core game refereed to in the channel header acknowledge self made reskins?
#504 [02:52] <Christougennian> almost christman
#505 [02:55] <Christougennian> almost time to tick- I mean, bring jo to everyone in this channel...
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#507 [02:56] <ProfOak_> Can you play a classic server in the beta client, or some other client?
#508 [02:56] <xales> nope
#509 [02:56] <xales> only the one at minecraft.net
#510 [02:57] <ProfOak_> Yeah, but that website is not working for me. I understand that it's only for me though.
#511 [02:59] <Gigathrash> Does anyone know how to reskin the clock item?
#512 [02:59] <xales> Gigathrash: nope, look on the wiki
#513 [02:59] <xales> you may not be able to
#514 [02:59] <ProfOak_> What if I downloaded the .jar file and loaded it up in a separate web page? That sounds like a crazy hack, but would it work?
#515 [02:59] <xales> ProfOak_: probably wont work
#516 [03:00] <ProfOak_> xales; why not
#517 [03:00] <Christougennian> and now good night
#518 [03:00] <xales> lol
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#520 [03:08] <Xaviergmail> wooooot
#521 [03:08] <Xaviergmail> itouch 4 :D
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#524 [03:20] <Brocktree> Does anybody know why my Nether portal isn't working on my survival mode server?
#525 [03:20] <xales> yeah
#526 [03:21] <xales> nether doesnt work in multiplayer yet
#527 [03:21] <xales> sorry :/
#528 [03:22] <Brocktree> Dang, thanks
#529 [03:22] <xales> yw
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#533 [03:39] <fork> 09m04e09r04r09y 04c09h04r09i04s09t04m09a04s
#534 [03:39] <Christougennian> ...
#535 [03:39] <Kealper> indeed, and nice and colorful lol
#536 [03:40] <Christougennian> oh hey kealps
#537 [03:40] <Christougennian> got naught better to do on christmas, eh?
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#539 [03:40] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> yo
#540 [03:40] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> whats up guys
#541 [03:41] <Christougennian> uh
#542 [03:41] <Christougennian> "a wild longname appeared"
#543 [03:41] <xales> Kealper
#544 [03:41] <xales> im talking to jeb right now
#545 [03:41] <xales> about the payment issues
#546 [03:41] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> is the cape the only new thing added around christmas
#547 [03:41] <xales> so they definately know about it
#548 [03:41] <Christougennian> what cape? wait what?
#549 [03:41] <Christougennian> am I missing something?
#550 [03:41] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> go into third person mode
#551 [03:41] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> you'll have a cape on
#552 [03:42] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> with a christmas tree
#553 [03:42] <Christougennian> oh haha
#554 [03:43] <xales> Creepers_Gonna_Creep: I think the christmas update will be after christmas but I dont know
#555 [03:43] <fork> i love titties
#556 [03:43] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> yeah i thought i heard something about a new mob being added
#557 [03:43] <xales> notch said he wanted to, not that he would :/
#558 [03:44] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> does anyone know if redstone works beyond the rendered distance?
#559 [03:44] <Christougennian> no
#560 [03:44] <Christougennian> only 15 squares or summat
#561 [03:44] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> ahh okay
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#563 [03:45] <Christougennian> wows
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#565 [03:46] <Christougennian> I'm sureprized I ain't disconnecting every 15 seconds
#566 [03:46] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> dude arrows need to be easier to make
#567 [03:46] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> way too hard to get a good amount
#568 [03:46] <Christougennian> no
#569 [03:46] <Christougennian> they're op
#570 [03:47] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> nah man in reality its the only good weapon in the game
#571 [03:47] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> swords put you at a terrible disadvantage
#572 [03:47] <Christougennian> exactly
#573 [03:47] <Christougennian> they are overpowered
#574 [03:48] <Christougennian> it's a game more about survival than attack
#575 [03:48] <Christougennian> weapons are for defending, not offending
#576 [03:48] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> yeah and arrows are good for getting on top of your house at night
#577 [03:48] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> and defending
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#579 [03:49] <the_late_man> gosh darnit
#580 [03:49] <the_late_man> darned self fulfilling prophecies
#581 [03:49] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> anybody have a server up in the midwest
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#583 [03:52] <ao> hello anyone else who gor their payment unresolvd after 24 hour and an email?
#584 [03:52] <ao> got*
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#587 [03:54] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> i think there was a forum thread about it
#588 [03:55] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> but nobody has any answers
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#590 [03:55] <ao> hmm so im not alone
#591 [03:55] <Christougennian> well er hem haw I really ought to get o bed
#592 [03:55] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> yeah im sure notch is working on a fix
#593 [03:55] * Christougennian kicks himself by divine power from the server in order to actually get some rest
#593 [03:55] <Christougennian> and to all a good night
#594 [03:56] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> did you get it with a gift card
#595 [03:56] <Christougennian> ie I'll probs be back in 15 mins
#596 [03:56] <ao> no with paypal for myself
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#598 [03:58] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> you emailed payment@mojang.com right?
#599 [03:58] <ao> yes both with username and ID
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#601 [03:58] <ao> transaction ID
#602 [03:58] <ao> no reply yet
#603 [03:58] <xales> ao: it may take a while
#604 [03:59] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> it being the holidays
#605 [03:59] <xales> its christmas and a weekend
#606 [03:59] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> it might take a few days for a reply
#607 [03:59] <ao> Its been hmm..around 35h almost
#608 [03:59] <ao> yes might be
#609 [03:59] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> mojang doesnt have many employees
#610 [03:59] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> i think 7
#611 [03:59] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> at most
#612 [03:59] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> if notch has even got around to hiring that many yet
#613 [04:00] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> im sure it'll get figured out man
#614 [04:00] <Kealper> mrawr
#615 [04:00] <xales> 6
#616 [04:00] <xales> Kealper: see what i said ^^ up there
#617 [04:01] <Kealper> yea, was just going to ask about htat
#618 [04:01] <Kealper> that*
#619 [04:01] <Kealper> so they know about it? do they know if it's their side or paypal's?
#620 [04:01] <xales> 03:52 <jeb> like i said, i can't do much about it from here
#621 [04:01] <xales> 03:52 <jeb> hopefully their purchases will go through soon
#622 [04:01] <Kealper> if he can't do much about it, it must be paypal screwing up then :S
#623 [04:02] <xales> :/
#624 [04:02] <xales> its 4am
#625 [04:02] * Kealper sighs
#625 [04:02] <xales> i gotta go now :(
#626 [04:02] <Kealper> indeed it is
#627 [04:02] <xales> cya
#628 [04:02] <Kealper> i was just checking this before hitting the sack myself
#629 [04:02] <Kealper> cya
#630 [04:04] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> FOREVER ALONE
#631 [04:04] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> playing minecraft on christmas morning D:
#632 [04:04] <Kealper> eh? lol
#633 [04:04] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> referring to myself
#634 [04:05] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> family is gonna be up in like 4 hours
#635 [04:05] <Kealper> oh lol...i was gonna say..i haven't started up minecraft since like 11pm :P
#636 [04:05] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> not sure if ill be able to wake up
#637 [04:05] <Kealper> same
#638 [04:05] <Kealper> so on that note....i'm off to bed
#639 [04:05] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> later bro
#640 [04:05] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> have a good christmas
#641 [04:05] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> /hannukah
#642 [04:06] <Kealper> thanks, you too lol
#643 [04:06] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> /whatever it is you celebrate
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#650 [05:01] <Van889> I bought the game yesterday but i am not marked as premium user. What should i do?
#651 [05:01] <fork> !payment
#652 [05:02] <Van889> ok thx ^^
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#657 [05:25] <Payment> I bought the game for 3 days and still didnt got it
#658 [05:25] <Payment> the bot lies
#659 [05:25] <Tunc> hmm
#660 [05:26] <Payment> wonder when they finish it
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#668 [06:04] <watttt> yesss
#669 [06:04] <watttt> finally
#670 [06:04] <watttt> my account is ther
#671 [06:07] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> lol
#672 [06:07] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> anybody in here
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#679 [06:34] <Snowey111> Um can i ask a question?
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#681 [06:34] <Van889> i got an email yeah Purchase complete =)
#682 [06:34] <Tunc> :D
#683 [06:35] <Tunc> I bought it 8 days before it went beta and price was higher
#684 [06:35] <Snowey111> haha
#685 [06:35] <Snowey111> wow that took ages
#686 [06:36] <Tunc> gees the server 98.44.148.171:25565 is not loading
#687 [06:36] <Tunc> it was the server I liked :(
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#699 [07:44] <gunther> is the game already fixst
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#701 [07:50] <kontroll> Awesome minecraft server atm. D:
#702 [07:50] <kontroll> :D even
#703 [07:51] <kontroll> I built a really dark room next to the railroad.
#704 [07:51] <kontroll> My hope is that mobs spawn in there and staff it. :>
#705 [07:51] <kontroll> Ie. a ticket office.
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#707 [07:59] <Snowey111> Im guessing grey isn't here
#708 [08:00] <kontroll> What seems to be the problem?
#709 [08:00] <Snowey111> i need the updata
#710 [08:00] <Snowey111> e*
#711 [08:01] <Snowey111> my game wont update automaticly
#712 [08:01] <kontroll> Oh.
#713 [08:01] <kontroll> I can supply my bin folder, I guess. :P
#714 [08:01] <Snowey111> so i have been getting the bin and resource folders from grey about every update
#715 [08:01] <Snowey111> yeah thanks :)
#716 [08:01] <Snowey111> very few people does it because they don't realise that passwords are stored in the lastlogin file.
#717 [08:02] <Snowey111> So i rely on grey :)
#718 [08:02] <kontroll> /nod
#719 [08:03] <kontroll> http://dlxmedia.net/bin.zip << With Quandary embedded. Just use the _minecraft_vanilla.jar instead if you don't use Quandary. :P
#720 [08:03] <kontroll> Oh. Just _minecraft.jar... I thought I'd added vanilla to the name. Oh well. ;)
#721 [08:03] <Snowey111> ok
#722 [08:03] <Snowey111> but i need the resource folder too right?
#723 [08:03] <kontroll> No idea.
#724 [08:03] <Snowey111> ok im testing
#725 [08:04] <kontroll> Bunch of sounds + music. I can fix that, np.
#726 [08:04] <kontroll> Will take a bit longer though. I upload at 100k / sec. :P
#727 [08:04] <Snowey111> ah ok
#728 [08:04] <Snowey111> thanks :)
#729 [08:04] <kontroll> Sure, np.
#730 [08:07] <kontroll> /shake head
#731 [08:07] <kontroll> Buddy has been building a trap for hours.
#732 [08:07] <kontroll> I think he's died fifteen times or so.
#733 [08:07] <kontroll> So it works... I guess.
#734 [08:08] <kontroll> 3 min left on resources, Snowey111.
#735 [08:09] <Snowey111> oh ok
#736 [08:09] <Snowey111> il try using just the bin now, just as an experiment
#737 [08:10] <kontroll> /nod
#738 [08:10] <kontroll> Alright.
#739 [08:11] <kontroll> http://dlxmedia.net/resources.zip
#740 [08:11] <Snowey111> ty
#741 [08:11] <kontroll> yw
#742 [08:11] <Snowey111> that's all i need i think
#743 [08:11] <Snowey111> oh
#744 [08:12] <Snowey111> seems to work with only the bin folder
#745 [08:13] <kontroll> Cool. :)
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#747 [08:18] <Snowey111> wow i even get sound awesome :)
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#752 [09:28] <Z3r05t4r> ohaio
#753 [09:28] <Z3r05t4r> its me again
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#756 [09:46] <kontroll> YES!
#757 [09:47] <kontroll> Ticket office worked!
#758 [09:47] <kontroll> Two archers spawned.
#759 [09:47] <kontroll> lol
#760 [09:47] <kontroll> Triggered a deathmatch in there.
#761 [09:47] <kontroll> /wipe tears
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#763 [09:59] <Z3r05t4r> kontroll?
#764 [09:59] <Z3r05t4r> what are you talking about?
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#767 [10:08] <Lunarblu_> Good monring!
#768 [10:09] <Lunarblu_> Where do you type in the "/op" commands?
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#770 [10:12] <vaegir> Hello
#771 [10:12] <vaegir> I recieved the code finally
#772 [10:12] <kontroll> Z3r05t4r: http://dlxmedia.net/ticket-office.png
#773 [10:12] <vaegir> :D
#774 [10:12] <vaegir> Any of you know of a good multiplayer sever to play on?
#775 [10:13] <vaegir> a noob-friendly one.
#776 [10:18] <Lunarblu_> Can anyone recommend a admin tool for minecraft?
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#778 [10:19] * Tunc is away: Going to have happy time with friends
#778 [10:20] <TheMusicness> Hello, I need help
#779 [10:20] <TheMusicness> When i try to connect to a server It says Took to long to ... Ya you know
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#781 [10:21] <TheMusicness> Hello?
#782 [10:22] <TheMusicness> -_-
#783 [10:22] <Kranic> Hi.
#784 [10:22] <TheMusicness> Hi!
#785 [10:22] <Kranic> I'm just here to lurk
#786 [10:22] <TheMusicness> I need help
#787 [10:22] <TheMusicness> Oh..
#788 [10:22] <Kranic> Oh lol
#789 [10:22] <Kranic> Well I probably won't be helpful
#790 [10:22] <Lunarblu_> I'm sure no one is up
#791 [10:22] <Kranic> But you can ask
#792 [10:22] <TheMusicness> can you help lunar?
#793 [10:23] <Lunarblu_> I can;t sorry, I have the same issue
#794 [10:23] <TheMusicness> :(
#795 [10:24] <TheMusicness> Tunc?
#796 [10:25] <Lunarblu_> I can't connect to my friends server from my home internets. I can connect at the office and at my suite mates internets.
#797 [10:25] <Lunarblu_> I have no idea what to do either. So I set up a home server.
#798 [10:25] <Lunarblu_> It works like a charm. :-)
#799 [10:25] <Tunc> TheMusicness?
#800 [10:25] <Tunc> What?
#801 [10:26] <Tunc> oH
#802 [10:26] <Tunc> I'm away now anyway
#803 [10:26] <TheMusicness> :(
#804 [10:28] <TheMusicness> So many Idlers
#805 [10:34] * Kealper rawrs
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#806 [10:36] <Kealper> TheMusicness: the odds of finding help today is very rare...as it's christmas morning and only people with no lives are on their computers right now
#807 [10:37] <Kealper> so...what is it you needed help with? lol
#808 [10:38] <TheMusicness> Its..
#809 [10:38] <TheMusicness> When i try to log in
#810 [10:38] <TheMusicness> On a server
#811 [10:38] <TheMusicness> It says : Took to long..... All the time
#812 [10:38] <TheMusicness> Specially on my own
#813 [10:39] <Kealper> try connecting to mc.kealper.com real quick in minecraft
#814 [10:40] <TheMusicness> Sec
#815 [10:42] <xales> kealper
#816 [10:42] <xales> 05:10 <jeb> our paypal processing servlet had a bug in it
#817 [10:42] <xales> 05:10 <jeb> notch is working on it now
#818 [10:42] <xales> good news
#819 [10:42] <Kealper> woot
#820 [10:42] <TheMusicness> Where do you talk with Mojang Employ?
#821 [10:43] <xales> they are on occasionally
#822 [10:43] <Kealper> usually through email, but they come on irc aswell
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#825 [10:44] <Visiiri> Twitter
#826 [10:44] <Visiiri> Jnkboy told me to not ride trains
#827 [10:44] <Kealper> very helpful advice
#828 [10:44] <Kealper> lol
#829 [10:44] <TheMusicness> Eh?
#830 [10:44] <xales> lol
#831 [10:45] <Kealper> ok....so... TheMusicness i got that same problem
#832 [10:45] <Kealper> check inside your server's folder
#833 [10:45] <TheMusicness> yes ok
#834 [10:45] <Kealper> is there a file called externalurl.txt?
#835 [10:46] <TheMusicness> neop
#836 [10:46] <Kealper> hmmmm....
#837 [10:46] * kontroll groans at redstone circuits
#837 [10:47] <Kealper> what does it say in the server console when someone gets that took too long to log in?
#838 [10:47] <TheMusicness> shoul i write the Ip in Server prop...something soemthing
#839 [10:47] <Kealper> no, that should be blank
#840 [10:47] <TheMusicness> Disconnecting TheMusicness [/127.0.0.1:1952]: Took too long to log in
#841 [10:47] <TheMusicness> That number changes all the time
#842 [10:47] <TheMusicness> 1952
#843 [10:47] <Kealper> check server.log and look at the top
#844 [10:48] <Kealper> what server version does it say?
#845 [10:48] <TheMusicness> Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.1_02
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#847 [10:48] <Kealper> hmm....crap...
#848 [10:48] <xales> hmm
#849 [10:48] <xales> TheMusicness: are you running a firewall, by any chance?
#850 [10:48] <Kealper> i really don't know then...there is no reason why it should not work :S
#851 [10:48] <Kealper> xales: it makes a connection
#852 [10:49] <xales> Kealper: firewall wouldnt block localhost->localhost
#853 [10:49] <TheMusicness> 127.0.0.1
#854 [10:49] <Kealper> i tried aswell from my house
#855 [10:49] <xales> but may block outgoing port 80 for logins
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#857 [10:49] <xales> Kealper: some (norton) are a bit bitchy about port 80 but let other things go -_-
#858 [10:49] <TheMusicness> Shoul i port forward something?
#859 [10:49] <Kealper> hmm....that'd be the stupidest firewall ever, but worth a go...
#860 [10:49] <TheMusicness> Soo?
#861 [10:49] <Kealper> oh...norton...lol
#862 [10:50] <Kealper> TheMusicness: port forwarding in the router is not the problem
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#864 [10:50] <xales> TheMusicness: try turning off a firewall if you have one
#865 [10:50] <TheMusicness> ok
#866 [10:50] <Kealper> do you have any antivirus or firewall software installed?
#867 [10:50] <twentyeight> I'm running minecraft on ubunut for the first time and when I get in game my keyboard doesn't work, anybody know why?
#868 [10:50] <TheMusicness> I got ad aware
#869 [10:51] <TheMusicness> and avast
#870 [10:51] <Kealper> turn off avast for a few min
#871 [10:51] <TheMusicness> oK
#872 [10:51] <Kealper> say when, i'll try to connect again
#873 [10:51] <xales> twentyeight: is it a US keyboard?
#874 [10:51] <twentyeight> yeah
#875 [10:51] <Kealper> because something is preventing the server from verifying usernames
#876 [10:51] <gamakichi> guys, I run minecraft, and when the game is loading to play singleplayer or multiplayer, I get a black screen
#877 [10:52] <TheMusicness> Ok.. Done
#878 [10:52] <vaegir> Btw Kealper it was me on the server,I did not harm anything dont worry.
#879 [10:52] <Kealper> gamakichi: that's usually a very bad thing...but....are you running the latest version of java and video drivers
#880 [10:52] <xales> twentyeight: configured properly in the gnome configuration thing?
#881 [10:52] <vaegir> I just wanted to see how multiplayer was
#882 [10:52] <twentyeight> yeah it's all default
#883 [10:52] <twentyeight> it doesn't detect the keyboard at all
#884 [10:52] <gamakichi> yeah i am
#885 [10:52] <twentyeight> won't even let me alt tab
#886 [10:52] <twentyeight> it's like the keyboard isn't connected when I'm in game
#887 [10:53] <xales> twentyeight: minecraft just reads keyboard events from /dev/xevent I believe
#888 [10:53] <xales> can you try opening classic (http://minecraft.net/play.jsp) and see if that works?
#889 [10:53] <xales> also, what JVM are you using, and ubuntu version
#890 [10:53] <twentyeight> yes
#891 [10:53] <twentyeight> 11.04 ubuntu
#892 [10:53] <twentyeight> the jvm is updated
#893 [10:54] <Kealper> TheMusicness: go to this link: http://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=Kealper it should say "true"...if you can get on that page, then i have no idea what is wrong
#894 [10:54] <TheMusicness> it says true
#895 [10:54] <xales> twentyeight: it may be a bug related to running the alpha release of Ubuntu
#896 [10:54] <TheMusicness> But i also have problems connecting to minecraft.net
#897 [10:54] <twentyeight> I'm running beta though
#898 [10:55] <Kealper> TheMusicness: oh?
#899 [10:55] <TheMusicness> Yes.
#900 [10:55] <xales> TheMusicness: what do you mean by problems connecting?
#901 [10:55] <xales> twentyeight: there is only an alpha right now :/
#902 [10:55] <twentyeight> also, the classic doesn't load at all
#903 [10:55] <TheMusicness> It takes A YEAR to go in to that site sometimes
#904 [10:55] <xales> sounds like the server is timing out then
#905 [10:56] <Kealper> that is probably the issue then...the server is trying to check if said user has paid, and times out
#906 [10:56] <xales> twentyeight: the only release of 11.04 is alpha-1, which is probably why it isn't working
#907 [10:56] <TheMusicness> Sooo?
#908 [10:56] <twentyeight> I see...
#909 [10:56] <TheMusicness> What shoul i do?
#910 [10:56] <Kealper> the ghetto workaround would be to put the server in offline mode via the server.properties file
#911 [10:56] <TheMusicness> And i cant use IE either
#912 [10:56] <Kealper> O.o
#913 [10:57] <TheMusicness> just firefox
#914 [10:57] <twentyeight> so you're saying that the only version of minecraft for ubuntu right now is alpha?
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#916 [10:57] <Kealper> it totally does not load under IE?
#917 [10:57] <TheMusicness> IE doest even connect to anysite
#918 [10:57] <xENO_> Fail.
#919 [10:57] <xales> twentyeight: no
#920 [10:57] <Kealper> TheMusicness: you've got a proxy set wrong on your internet settings
#921 [10:57] <xales> twentyeight: minecraft version and ubuntu version are unrelated
#922 [10:57] <TheMusicness> How do i fix that
#923 [10:57] <Kealper> TheMusicness: vista/7?
#924 [10:58] <xales> you have installed "Ubuntu 11.04 alpha-1" which is not meant for end-user use
#925 [10:58] <TheMusicness> Xp
#926 [10:58] <xales> this is not related to minecraft at all
#927 [10:58] <Kealper> TheMusicness: this'll take a sec, lemme find it
#928 [10:58] <xENO_> What's a Minecraft?
#929 [10:58] <Kealper> ello GLaDOS
#930 [10:58] <TheMusicness> Xeno.. Lol
#931 [10:58] <twentyeight> well shucks
#932 [10:59] <twentyeight> thanks for the help
#933 [10:59] <xales> Kealper: I can tell you where it is
#934 [10:59] <xales> its in the internet options thing
#935 [10:59] <twentyeight> guess I'll just have to play on my laptop
#936 [10:59] <xales> from control panel
#937 [10:59] <xales> twentyeight: :(
#938 [10:59] <Kealper> yea, i wanted to check the exact names of it
#939 [10:59] <xales> if you want, you could probably downgrade ubuntu to the latest stable (10.10) and it should work
#940 [11:00] <Kealper> TheMusicness: Control Panel > Internet Options
#941 [11:00] <xales> Kealper: internet options->connections->at bottom of window, LAN settings -> uncheck use proxy
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#943 [11:00] <Kealper> that much i remember, it's the same across like all windows nt systems lol
#944 [11:00] <xales> Kealper: normally a proxy would say "Proxy refused connection" or something to that effect
#945 [11:00] <xales> not time out :\
#946 [11:00] <TheMusicness> YES
#947 [11:00] <TheMusicness> THANK YOU
#948 [11:00] <Kealper> nah, setting it to a non-existant proxy will make it time out
#949 [11:01] <Kealper> so if it was set to localhost it would act as if you had no interent
#950 [11:01] <Kealper> internet*
#951 [11:01] <xales> ah, I thought you meant a proxy that wasn't running any more
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#953 [11:03] <TheMusicness> Hmm
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#955 [11:03] <vaegir> Hello I was looking at server list in forums,as a starter what should I be looking at?
#956 [11:05] <Kealper> uhh....servers? lol
#957 [11:05] <TheMusicness> Kealper
#958 [11:05] <vaegir> Yes for multiplayer?
#959 [11:05] <TheMusicness> Does Minecraft.net go slow for you?
#960 [11:06] <Kealper> it does not
#961 [11:06] <TheMusicness> Hmm?
#962 [11:06] <Kealper> your server is SUPER laggy so i would assume it's just your connection
#963 [11:06] <TheMusicness> Lol
#964 [11:06] <Kealper> http://speedtest.net click the gold server, link result
#965 [11:06] <TheMusicness> Well, I cant find a creative smp server
#966 [11:07] <TheMusicness> So..
#967 [11:07] <TheMusicness> I tried to start my own
#968 [11:07] * Kealper smells food
#968 [11:08] <TheMusicness> o.o
#969 [11:09] <TheMusicness> 27 mb sec 8 mb upload
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#972 [11:10] <Pringlejoe> hi
#973 [11:10] <Pringlejoe> i got a problem and need some help here :(
#974 [11:10] <Pringlejoe> im using windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
#975 [11:11] <ssen> What's your problem, Pringlejoe?
#976 [11:11] <Pringlejoe> and i bought the minecraft alpha version some days ago
#977 [11:11] <Kealper> aaannnnd.... i'm back
#978 [11:11] <Pringlejoe> but now i cant start the client
#979 [11:11] <Pringlejoe> i doubleclick it and nothing happens
#980 [11:11] <ssen> Do you receive any sort of errors?
#981 [11:11] <Pringlejoe> no
#982 [11:11] <Pringlejoe> nothing
#983 [11:11] <Pringlejoe> it doesnt even break up nothing happens
#984 [11:11] <ssen> I'm sure you already have Java installed, but right click and try running as administrator
#985 [11:11] <Pringlejoe> im the admin of this pc and i updated java
#986 [11:12] <Pringlejoe> i allready run it as amin
#987 [11:12] <Pringlejoe> and still nothing but a question
#988 [11:12] <ssen> Well, I'm not quite sure how well it runs on windows 7 to begine with, and 64 bit even less. Try running it in compatibility mode for vista, or XP
#989 [11:12] <Kealper> runs fine on my windows 7 x64
#990 [11:12] <ssen> Eh?
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#992 [11:12] <Pringlejoe> i allready tried out the compability mdoe too
#993 [11:13] <ssen> I use server 2003 n64 bit, and it fails
#994 [11:13] <ssen> Which is basically a super optimized Vista
#995 [11:13] <kontroll> Or so you think.
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#997 [11:13] <Kealper> server 03? it's a "optimized" (see: pile of dog crap) version of windows xp pro
#998 [11:14] <ssen> Heh, alright.
#999 [11:14] <Pringlejoe> you are right kealper
#1000 [11:14] <Pringlejoe> but vista is a piece of shit so server 2003 is much better
#1001 [11:14] <ssen> Runs faster than anything else I've ever used, without the compatibility issues of vista.
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#1003 [11:15] <ssen> It says something when you have to make a completely new operating system to make up for all the fuckups of the last version
#1004 [11:15] <Kealper> server 08 is based off the same kernel as vista, and server 08 r2 is based off windows 7's kernel
#1005 [11:15] <Pringlejoe> and you can call it a optimized (fucking much better than vista) version of vista
#1006 [11:15] <ssen> 7 is just vista
#1007 [11:15] <ssen> without all the fuckups
#1008 [11:15] <xales> ssen: without _some_ of the fuckups
#1009 [11:15] <ssen> What xales said.
#1010 [11:15] <Kealper> 7 is to vista as xp is to 200
#1011 [11:15] <Kealper> 2000*
#1012 [11:15] <ssen> I don't like 7
#1013 [11:15] <ssen> At all
#1014 [11:15] <ssen> It's vista
#1015 [11:15] <ssen> with a few fixes
#1016 [11:15] <Pringlejoe> but i got still my problem ;) no ideas?
#1017 [11:15] <ssen> and shiny new UI
#1018 [11:15] <ssen> Slow as hell.
#1019 [11:16] <ssen> Resource hogging
#1020 [11:16] <xales> Pringlejoe: follow the reinstall instructions
#1021 [11:16] <xales> http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#1022 [11:16] <ssen> and has a lack of compatibility with anything
#1023 [11:16] <Kealper> i like 7, it's rock solid stable and quite fast...it's a totally different beast than that mediocre vista
#1024 [11:17] <kontroll> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxeV4i6QMg
#1025 [11:17] <kontroll> Awesome.
#1026 [11:17] <Kealper> although i would not recommend trying to run 7 on a netbook...that would run like shit
#1027 [11:17] <Pringlejoe> i tried this
#1028 [11:17] <Pringlejoe> those reinstall instructions doesn't work for me too
#1029 [11:17] <Visiiri> ssen, wrong.
#1030 [11:17] <Visiiri> How can you tell that you're wrong?
#1031 [11:17] <Visiiri> Look at a package of any software or games.
#1032 [11:17] <Visiiri> The requiremetns.
#1033 [11:18] <Visiiri> Under the RAM category, it will tell you that you will need 2 gigs for Vista and 1 gig for 7 in most cases :
#1034 [11:18] <Visiiri> :)
#1035 [11:18] <Kealper> i'll also note that 7 can use any windows drivers...they don't have to be windows 7 drivers to be able to be used
#1036 [11:18] <Visiiri> Kealper, I don't think so.
#1037 [11:18] <Visiiri> I had problems saying that it wouldn't recognize d- nevermind, it was DLLs
#1038 [11:18] <xales> they have to be _signed_
#1039 [11:18] <Kealper> it's one of it's selling points, and i have used a windows xp driver beofre
#1040 [11:18] <xales> they can be written for any version though
#1041 [11:18] <Pringlejoe> any other ideas?
#1042 [11:19] <xales> Pringlejoe: open task manager
#1043 [11:19] <Kealper> Pringlejoe: what was your issue? i was away while you said it lol
#1044 [11:19] <ssen> You'll have to take note however, that 7 uses more resources at runtime than anything else.
#1045 [11:19] <xales> and in the process tab, look for javaw.exe
#1046 [11:19] <ssen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk92bLNxjqk&feature=player_embedded
#1047 [11:19] <Kealper> ssen: vista does....my 7 uses about 500mb of ram at startup, vista (when i had it) sucked up about 800mb
#1048 [11:19] <xales> =_=
#1049 [11:20] <Pringlejoe> hmm if it doesnt seem to be there would it be a problem? :(
#1050 [11:20] <xales> my xp uses 200mb at startup
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#1052 [11:20] <ssen> I use a hybrid
#1053 [11:20] <xales> Pringlejoe: try running minecraft and looking for it
#1054 [11:20] <Kealper> it sounds like you just had a bad experience with it...or you are some blind fanboy
#1055 [11:20] <ssen> Server 2003 on my desktop
#1056 [11:20] <ssen> XP, with cygwin and pubuntu streamlined in on my laptop.
#1057 [11:20] * Kealper scrolls up to read the original problem
#1057 [11:21] <Kealper> well
#1058 [11:21] <Kealper> that's strange
#1059 [11:21] <Kealper> you tried redownloading the exe?
#1060 [11:21] <xales> ssen: that is the most backwards setup ive ever heard of -_-
#1061 [11:21] <Pringlejoe> i did redownload it like 20 times
#1062 [11:22] <Pringlejoe> and javaw.exe doesnt appear there
#1063 [11:22] <xales> Pringlejoe: are you running any antivirus?
#1064 [11:22] <Pringlejoe> or it just appears for 0.1 secpmds
#1065 [11:22] <Pringlejoe> yes i do
#1066 [11:22] <Kealper> disable it for now
#1067 [11:22] <xales> can you try closing it?
#1068 [11:22] <xales> Pringlejoe: does a text file appear on your desktop when you run minecraft?
#1069 [11:22] <ssen> Hey what the fuck
#1070 [11:22] <ssen> Whaaaaaaaaat
#1071 [11:23] <ssen> I turn around
#1072 [11:23] <ssen> My grandma is naked
#1073 [11:23] <ssen> OH GOD WHAT
#1074 [11:23] <ssen> *turn back aroudn*
#1075 [11:23] <Kealper> there are certain mental images i really don't need on christmas morning
#1076 [11:23] <ssen> Backwards how, xales?
#1077 [11:23] <Kealper> that....takes the cake
#1078 [11:23] <xales> ssen: running ubuntu under xp...what is the point?
#1079 [11:23] <xales> same with running windows server on a desktop
#1080 [11:23] <xales> ._.
#1081 [11:24] <Pringlejoe> not text file
#1082 [11:24] <Kealper> xales: for the sake of having a stable os! (/s if it was needed)
#1083 [11:24] <Pringlejoe> and no help by closing my antivirus and my firewall
#1084 [11:24] <xales> Kealper: it would be just as instale as xp
#1085 [11:24] <xales> because it would still depend on XP
#1086 [11:25] <xales> Pringlejoe: can you try reinstalling java?
#1087 [11:25] <Kealper> hence the sarcasm tag lol
#1088 [11:25] <xales> oh I didnt even see that
#1089 [11:25] <xales> >.>
#1090 [11:25] <Pringlejoe> i did allready
#1091 [11:25] <Pringlejoe> 3 times
#1092 [11:25] <Pringlejoe> i can play it in my browser though
#1093 [11:25] <xales> Pringlejoe: did it ever work?
#1094 [11:26] <Pringlejoe> only on browser ^^
#1095 [11:26] <Kealper> Pringlejoe: then just play in the browser :/
#1096 [11:26] <Kealper> pressing F11 fullscreens it
#1097 [11:26] <Kealper> it being minecraft
#1098 [11:27] <Pringlejoe> im pretty pissed by this problem because its not only minecraft
#1099 [11:27] <Pringlejoe> all unknown downloaded things out of the internet wont start
#1100 [11:27] <Pringlejoe> .exe i mean
#1101 [11:28] <xales> that sounds like your antivirus then
#1102 [11:28] <Pringlejoe> hmmm
#1103 [11:28] <xales> whats it called?
#1104 [11:28] <Pringlejoe> i thought too
#1105 [11:28] <Pringlejoe> avast
#1106 [11:28] <xales> hmm
#1107 [11:28] <xales> avast wouldnt do that
#1108 [11:28] <Kealper> wow...you must have that set to super hardcore holyshitihateviruses mode
#1109 [11:28] <Pringlejoe> i allready had a problem with my World of Warcraft and my avast since this day my avast should acce
#1110 [11:28] <Pringlejoe> accept all .exe
#1111 [11:29] <xales> is avast totally disabled?
#1112 [11:29] <xales> you may have to open it and click "Virus shield" or something like that
#1113 [11:29] <xales> and select disable
#1114 [11:29] <ssen> <xales> ssen: running ubuntu under xp...what is the point?
#1115 [11:29] <Pringlejoe> i did
#1116 [11:29] <ssen> I've never liked ubuntu
#1117 [11:29] <ssen> I will probably never even enjoy using it
#1118 [11:29] <Pringlejoe> and no i dont have super hardcore holyshitihateviruses mode on
#1119 [11:29] <ssen> But it was the only portable and streamlined linux based OS I could find
#1120 [11:30] <xales> ssen: Gentoo
#1121 [11:30] <xales> though if you dont like using ubuntu
#1122 [11:30] <xales> heh
#1123 [11:30] <ssen> If I had my way I would have just done ArchLinux, using virtualbox's seamless mode
#1124 [11:30] <Pringlejoe> only the okay-its-ok-when-i-download-100000-viruses-just-say-there-are-some-bad-software-here-and-there mode
#1125 [11:30] <xales> Pringlejoe: it sounds like something more sinister going on
#1126 [11:30] <ssen> What I mean xales,
#1127 [11:30] <Kealper> xales: don't you have to compile gentoo for each machine you want it on? lol
#1128 [11:30] <ssen> is an OS already set up to run under windows
#1129 [11:30] <ssen> beside, rather
#1130 [11:30] <xales> ssen: what is the point of running linux in a VM? you gain no benefit from it, especially if you dont like using it
#1131 [11:30] <ssen> You do, Kealper
#1132 [11:30] <xales> Kealper: indeed
#1133 [11:30] <ssen> It's dumb
#1134 [11:31] <ssen> Because I do like using linux, xales
#1135 [11:31] <Kealper> well it ensures it'll work for that compter lol
#1136 [11:31] <ssen> I use it on a regular basis
#1137 [11:31] <ssen> For everything
#1138 [11:31] <xales> you can run any distro you like
#1139 [11:31] <xales> but in a VM? ._.
#1140 [11:31] <ssen> I'm only still on XP for photoshop, and steam games
#1141 [11:31] <Kealper> wine?
#1142 [11:31] <ssen> Wine can't run photoshop
#1143 [11:31] <ssen> Or steam, effectively
#1144 [11:31] <ssen> It does work
#1145 [11:31] <xales> im pretty sure newer wine can run photoshop
#1146 [11:31] <ssen> But running games under wine
#1147 [11:31] <ssen> is weird
#1148 [11:32] <ssen> Running steam games under wine, I should say
#1149 [11:32] <xales> ssen: also, what is the point of running linux under xp, in a vm
#1150 [11:32] <xales> its still as slow and unstable as windows
#1151 [11:32] <ssen> Steam _still_ doesn't support cs5 under wine
#1152 [11:32] <ssen> They only _just_ got cs3 working
#1153 [11:32] <ssen> Because, xales
#1154 [11:32] <ssen> I don't have to switch Os's
#1155 [11:32] <ssen> To use linux apps
#1156 [11:32] <xales> lol
#1157 [11:33] <ssen> Right now,
#1158 [11:33] <ssen> I'm running xchat under linux
#1159 [11:33] <Pringlejoe> does someone know the game divine souls?
#1160 [11:33] <ssen> Plants Vs. Zombies under windows
#1161 [11:33] <xales> the inherent benefit of using linux
#1162 [11:33] <ssen> Photoshop under windows
#1163 [11:33] <ssen> GIMP under linux
#1164 [11:33] <xales> is so you dont have the retarded problems like windows instability, etc
#1165 [11:33] <ssen> and an SSH client under linux
#1166 [11:33] <ssen> Skype under windows
#1167 [11:33] <ssen> Chrome under linux
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#1169 [11:33] <ssen> And that is all.
#1170 [11:33] <xales> why the fuck would you need all that stuff open anyway
#1171 [11:34] <ssen> Because I'm working on a site, at the moment
#1172 [11:34] <ssen> beta of : http://piratesandninjas.net
#1173 [11:34] <ssen> I was asked to help out
#1174 [11:34] <ssen> So I am.
#1175 [11:34] <xales> "Im skyping my mom for christmas while playing plants vs zombies, working on 2 projects in gimp and photoshop each, talking in IRC, installing updates via ssh, and browsing the web in Chrome"
#1176 [11:34] <xales> -_-
#1177 [11:35] <Smiley> you can skype in linux :P the beta works fine imo
#1178 [11:35] <ssen> Hah,
#1179 [11:35] <ssen> Yeah, no.
#1180 [11:35] <Smiley> lol no?
#1181 [11:35] <ssen> At xales
#1182 [11:35] <Smiley> ah :P
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#1184 [11:35] <xales> lol
#1185 [11:35] <ssen> I'm running some apps under linux only because linux right now has half of my RAM
#1186 [11:35] <ssen> Balancing ram load
#1187 [11:36] <ssen> xales:
#1188 [11:36] * xales cough, "virtual ram" -_-
#1188 [11:36] <ssen> GIMP for resizing, etc
#1189 [11:36] <ssen> You keep inventing problems that I don't have.
#1190 [11:36] <ssen> >_>
#1191 [11:36] <ssen> I'm _using_ virtual ram
#1192 [11:36] <xales> in fact, you do have them
#1193 [11:36] <ssen> swap vs virtual ram
#1194 [11:36] <ssen> Both running
#1195 [11:36] <xales> you just dont realize because your not doing it the way you are meant to
#1196 [11:36] <ssen> Aaaaaaaaaanyawys
#1197 [11:37] <ssen> GIMP is faster for simple things
#1198 [11:37] <ssen> Batch resizing atm
#1199 [11:37] <ssen> Making a new banner for part of piratesandninjas
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#1201 [11:37] <ssen> xales, you just don't realize you've never used the system that I am
#1202 [11:37] <ssen> and are once again,
#1203 [11:37] <ssen> inventing problems I don't have
#1204 [11:38] <xales> regardless
#1205 [11:38] <ssen> In any case, I'm not going to argue over something that doesn't really matter on christmas morning. I'm getting back to programming >_>
#1206 [11:38] <xales> lol
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#1210 [11:40] <ssen> I have to wonder if zombies will eat other zombies in a realy apocolypse.
#1211 [11:40] <ssen> *real
#1212 [11:41] <xales> I think they probably would
#1213 [11:41] <xales> they arent terribly intelligent
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#1215 [11:43] <ssen> It would suck
#1216 [11:43] <ssen> If in a real 'zombie' case, it was just deranged humans.
#1217 [11:44] <ssen> As in, all the speed and intelligence of a normal human.
#1218 [11:44] <ssen> With the ferocity of a flesh eating zombie
#1219 [11:44] <ssen> Merry Christmas, everyone :D
#1220 [11:45] <ssen> I wonder if...
#1221 [11:45] <ssen> I just had the most terrible idea I've cooked up all month
#1222 [11:45] <ssen> Flippin'
#1223 [11:45] <ssen> Droid phone renderfarm
#1224 [11:45] <ssen> Except
#1225 [11:46] <ssen> Voluntary
#1226 [11:46] <ssen> They're certainly powerful enough to take it on, nowadays
#1227 [11:54] * Kealper installs locking tuning machines on his guitar
#1227 [12:11] <xales> !count
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#1231 [12:25] <xales> Kealper: http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2456813749/christmas-day
#1232 [12:26] <Kealper> so it was both minecraft.net and paypal that was owning us lol
#1233 [12:26] <xales> seems so
#1234 [12:27] <Cial> paypal is always an ass
#1235 [12:27] <Cial> did they lock his account again?
#1236 [12:27] <xales> no
#1237 [12:27] <xales> payment processing broke or something
#1238 [12:27] <xales> from what jeb said it sounds like something on their end
#1239 [12:28] <Kealper> no....paypal just sucks ass with minecraft's half-baked transaction thing
#1240 [12:28] <xales> 05:10 <jeb> our paypal processing servlet had a bug in it
#1241 [12:29] <Kealper> holy shit the new twitter layout is so bad
#1242 [12:29] <xales> of course
#1243 [12:29] <Cial> lmao those pass codes were gone the second he posted that comment
#1244 [12:29] <xales> mass media sites get worse and worse
#1245 [12:30] <Kealper> i could not care less what is on my twitter....hell, i only have an account to read what Notch says, why can't i just easily read his tweets from the new twitter? useless thing
#1246 [12:30] <xales> lol
#1247 [12:31] <Kealper> omg...the fail whale
#1248 [12:31] <xales> log out
#1249 [12:31] <xales> and go to his twitter
#1250 [12:31] <xales> not logged in
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#1252 [12:31] <xales> and it will be fine
#1253 [12:32] <Cial> \o/ yay twitter is dead
#1254 [12:32] <Kealper> fuck it...twitter sucks too hard right now
#1255 [12:32] <Cial> minecraft killed it
#1256 [12:32] <feenyx> oh
#1257 [12:32] * Kealper goes back to messing with his guitar
#1257 [12:32] <feenyx> merry christmas, and grats on the @, Kealper :p
#1258 [12:33] <Kealper> thanks feenyx, merry christmas to you aswell ^^
#1259 [12:35] <Kealper> i just have to wait until TrueWolves is back from his vacation of sorts, so i can have him set me on chanserv's aop list, i'm pretty sure that he is the only one who can, since he is the channel creator :S
#1260 [12:35] <feenyx> I'm guessing so, then :p
#1261 [12:36] <feenyx> and there are no bots
#1262 [12:36] <feenyx> \o/
#1263 [12:36] <xales> Kealper: people with SOP can
#1264 [12:36] <feenyx> hi Grey
#1265 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1266 [12:36] <Kealper> xales: only sops in this channel are ez and notch lol
#1267 [12:37] <Kealper> already checked :S
#1268 [12:37] <xales> lol
#1269 [12:37] <ssen> Oh snap!
#1270 [12:37] <ssen> I haven't played minecraft
#1271 [12:37] <ssen> in flippin'
#1272 [12:37] <ssen> days
#1273 [12:37] <ssen> Suffering from minecraft withdrawal
#1274 [12:37] <feenyx> same for meg. Server is running though :p
#1275 [12:37] <feenyx> me*
#1276 [12:38] <Kealper> and ello grey, how was your christmas? lol
#1277 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> murgleblarg.
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#1279 [12:39] <Kealper> lol
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#1284 [12:43] <Kealper> alrighty...with much effort....my new tuning machines are on my guitar....time to go polish it and put it up while i wait for the guitar shop to open up again so i can get strings :3
#1285 [12:43] <feenyx> pggbs help
#1286 [12:44] <feenyx> with the murgleblarg I mean
#1287 [12:44] <feenyx> on a completely unrelated note, I also want to get a guitar
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#1290 [12:49] <Reactions> Where do you find the music tracks from Minecraft?
#1291 [12:49] <Reactions> I cant find it in minecraft.jar
#1292 [12:49] <cometen> good evening. Im playing minecraft on browser, is there no way to load or save maps. Or how about changeing size on the world
#1293 [12:49] <xales> they are in there somewhere
#1294 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> Try /resources?
#1295 [12:49] <xales> cometen: you are playing classic I believe then?
#1296 [12:50] <Reactions> rofl Grey
#1297 [12:50] <Reactions> thanks X=
#1298 [12:50] <xales> unfortunately, there is no way to change the size in that mode. It is an older version of the game
#1299 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> :)
#1300 [12:51] <Champ> How can I set an alias for the /give command?
#1301 [12:51] <Reactions> well, I might as well ask
#1302 [12:51] <Reactions> do you know what the "cat" song is called?
#1303 [12:52] <Champ> for example: instead of /give <nick> 276 #spawn 276
#1304 [12:52] <xales> Champ: I dont think there is a way to, without mods. sorry :(
#1305 [12:52] <Champ> ahh kk
#1306 [12:52] <Champ> thanks
#1307 [12:53] <Champ> well...I guess I'm open to using mods
#1308 [12:54] <Reactions> w00t
#1309 [12:54] <Reactions> I found it
#1310 [12:54] <Champ> I'll look around
#1311 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> champ, I'd recommend hey0's mod, when they update
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#1313 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> Instead of /give <player> <id> <num>
#1314 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> It's just /give <id> <num>
#1315 [12:55] <Champ> sweet thanks
#1316 [12:55] * fogWraith tosses Grey some beer
#1316 [12:56] <Reactions> ugh, anyone know a good program to convert ogg files into mp3 or so?
#1317 [12:56] <Reactions> free
#1318 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> And it's not limited to 64 item stacks.
#1319 [12:56] <Champ> awesome!!
#1320 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, heh. Free, or "Free"
#1321 [12:56] <Reactions> Free.
#1322 [12:56] <Reactions> x)
#1323 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> bah, you're no fun.
#1324 [12:57] <Reactions> rofl
#1325 [12:57] <Reactions> "Free" then
#1326 [12:57] <Reactions> x)
#1327 [12:58] <Reactions> oh nvm
#1328 [12:58] <Reactions> I can just use audacity
#1329 [12:58] <feenyx> otherwise, EAC would probably do the trick
#1330 [12:59] <cometen> what software do you guys use when ppl connecting to you server
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#1332 [13:00] <Reactions> huh?
#1333 [13:00] <feenyx> cometen: do you mean besides the default minecraft server files?
#1334 [13:00] <cometen> yea
#1335 [13:01] <feenyx> I run a mod called Hey0, so I can manage whitelist/blacklist and user 'levels' easier
#1336 [13:01] <feenyx> although that's not yet been updated for Beta Server
#1337 [13:01] <feenyx> atleast not officially. There are some dev versions available I think
#1338 [13:01] * GreyVulpine nods.
#1338 [13:02] <cometen> I have to use hamachi for ppl to connect to my server
#1339 [13:03] <feenyx> are you not able to portforward by normal means?
#1340 [13:03] <cometen> I did that
#1341 [13:04] <feenyx> and it didn't work?
#1342 [13:04] <cometen> no they cant connect
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#1344 [13:06] <cometen> anyone knows teamspeak, no problem with ppl joining that
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#1346 [13:07] <nordas> hello
#1347 [13:07] <nordas> i need help
#1348 [13:07] <feenyx> I've always been a Ventrilo kind of guy
#1349 [13:07] <cometen> hey
#1350 [13:07] <feenyx> nordas: then you've come to the right place!
#1351 [13:07] <nordas> my world got deleted
#1352 [13:07] <feenyx> place your query, and let our holiday elves divine your answer
#1353 [13:07] * fogWraith opens feenyx's eyes to Mumble
#1353 [13:08] <nordas> how can i get my world back
#1354 [13:08] <cometen> teamspeak has a great sound
#1355 [13:08] <feenyx> fogWraith: how much were you betting I'd instantly google Mumble? (because that's what I did)
#1356 [13:09] <feenyx> nordas: did you delete it manually?
#1357 [13:09] <nordas> my laptops baterry ran out
#1358 [13:10] <cometen> dont know mumble :(
#1359 [13:10] <nordas> when i got back on the world was gone
#1360 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> Oof.
#1361 [13:11] <feenyx> nordas: you were playing in-browser, and hadn't saved?
#1362 [13:11] <feenyx> fogWraith: Mumble looks enticing
#1363 [13:11] <nordas> i was playing offline
#1364 [13:11] <nordas> i still got world 5 in the folder thing
#1365 [13:11] <nordas> in the saves folder
#1366 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> Do you see level.dat_old?
#1367 [13:12] <nordas> yes
#1368 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> rename the current level.dat to level.bak, then level.dat_old to level.dat
#1369 [13:13] <nordas> done
#1370 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> Now try launching minecraft again
#1371 [13:14] <nordas> still not there
#1372 [13:14] <nordas> :(
#1373 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> Crap.
#1374 [13:15] <fogWraith> feenyx: Mumble is incredibly nice, and free compared to Vent
#1375 [13:16] <fogWraith> Haven't had any issues with the quality of sound and bandwidth use either
#1376 [13:16] <nordas> is there anything else i can do
#1377 [13:16] <feenyx> fogWraith: I've personally never paid for Vent, but I see your point ^^
#1378 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> nordas - Maybe try opening it up in MCedit, then saving it again
#1379 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> ?
#1380 [13:16] <cometen> when i dont need any software for ppl to connect to my server, and they use my external ip adress.
#1381 [13:16] <feenyx> fogWraith: I'll set up Murmur once I'm back home, give things a whirl
#1382 [13:16] <fogWraith> I did pay for Vent, but, moved away from it
#1383 [13:16] <cometen> teanspeak are free to
#1384 [13:16] <fogWraith> Teamspeek is well, yeah
#1385 [13:16] <feenyx> tried using xfire for a bit, but meh
#1386 [13:16] <nordas> what MCedit
#1387 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> MCedit is a map editor
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#1389 [13:17] <nordas> how do i get it?
#1390 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#1391 [13:19] <nordas> will it work for beta?
#1392 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, good question.
#1393 [13:19] <nordas> :S
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#1395 [13:20] <nordas> ok it has world 5 on it
#1396 [13:23] <cometen> when I try to join my server with my external ip it says connection refused, what do I do wrong
#1397 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> nordas - Just try opening it up, then saving it
#1398 [13:24] <xales> cometen: portforward.com
#1399 [13:25] <nordas> open it on mcedit
#1400 [13:25] <nordas> ?
#1401 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Yes nordas
#1402 [13:25] <nordas> how do i save it?
#1403 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> ctrl-s
#1404 [13:26] <nordas> done
#1405 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> alt-f4 to close
#1406 [13:26] <nordas> now open normal?
#1407 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Yse.
#1408 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes*
#1409 [13:28] <nordas> it opened something
#1410 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> "something"?
#1411 [13:29] <nordas> it seems to be all ok :D
#1412 [13:30] <nordas> Thanks you VERY much
#1413 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> mhmm
#1414 [13:31] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/RXOmD.jpg :3
#1415 [13:31] <nordas> k
#1416 [13:31] <nordas> thanks again
#1417 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> All hail the mighty GUI and tar file?
#1418 [13:31] <nordas> bye
#1419 [13:32] * fogWraith steals it away from Kealper
#1419 [13:32] * fogWraith replaces it
#1419 [13:32] <Kealper> :O
#1420 [13:32] <fogWraith> With a friggin' Warlock!
#1421 [13:32] * xales smashes Kealpers guitar over fogWraith's head
#1421 [13:32] <Kealper> Warlocks are ok lol
#1422 [13:32] <fogWraith> Warlocks are a disease ;/
#1423 [13:32] <Kealper> but that guitar MSRPs for like 2x the price of most bc rich guitars :S
#1424 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> DAMN! Notch gave out 11 gift codes on his tumblr
#1425 [13:33] <Kealper> indeed
#1426 [13:33] <fogWraith> Old shit, Grey :P
#1427 [13:33] * GreyVulpine kicks fogWraith.
#1427 [13:33] <Kealper> all were gone about 1.532 seconds after he posted
#1428 [13:33] <cometen> it says failled to bind to port. The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind
#1429 [13:33] * xales kicks GreyVulpine
#1429 [13:34] <xales> cometen: make sure the ip line in server.properties is empty
#1430 [13:34] * fogWraith rolls GreyVulpine over
#1430 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1431 [13:34] <cometen> its not empty
#1432 [13:35] <fogWraith> Had it rough lately, lukegb? :P
#1433 [13:35] <lukegb> hmm?
#1434 [13:35] <lukegb> :P
#1435 [13:35] <xales> cometen: it should be empty
#1436 [13:35] <fogWraith> Santa -> Luke... you're like a superman, once the beard is on, noone knows its you
#1437 [13:36] <lukegb> ^_^
#1438 [13:36] <lukegb> well, more
#1439 [13:36] <lukegb> ^_^;
#1440 [13:36] <fogWraith> ;)
#1441 [13:37] <cometen> didnt help connection timed out :(
#1442 [13:38] <fogWraith> GreyVulpine: help, help! I need to pee, but cant / don't want to get out of my chair ;P
#1443 [13:41] * GreyVulpine gives fogWraith a coke bottle
#1443 [13:41] * xales drinks fogWraith's coke
#1443 [13:41] <cometen> I get some big holes
#1444 [13:42] <cometen> in the game
#1445 [13:42] <Kealper> cometen: did you let everything load up first?
#1446 [13:43] <cometen> ahh now I can join my server, but i get a java error
#1447 [13:43] <cometen> yea
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#1452 [13:51] <fogWraith> But... my coke ;_;
#1453 [13:52] <xales> (¤.¤)
#1454 [13:52] * fogWraith still has dr. pepper
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#1455 [13:52] * GreyVulpine steals
#1455 [13:52] <fogWraith> -_@
#1456 [13:52] <fogWraith> ... still, got some Jaeger
#1457 [13:53] * xales steals also
#1457 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> O.O
#1458 [13:53] * GreyVulpine doubly steals
#1458 [13:53] <fogWraith> <_>
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#1460 [13:53] * xales steals fogWraith's entire drink cabinet, just before GreyVulpine can get to it
#1460 [13:53] <Champ> also may I ask how does the op.txt and admin.txt work? I'm not sure quite how to add names. So for the time being I just put "karenlharrison" in the op & admin.txt files (karenlharrison being my minecraft name) is there some sort of code I needed to add to the txt files?
#1461 [13:53] <fogWraith> Noooooooooooooo ;O
#1462 [13:54] <xales> Champ: nope
#1463 [13:54] <xales> thats all you have to do
#1464 [13:54] <Champ> kk cool
#1465 [13:54] <Champ> :D
#1466 [13:54] <obi_wan> How do I get rid of this: When I go on (in browser, or with the launcher thing) it loads and loads, then at done loading it just goes black. A couple people I know have been having this problem, including me.
#1467 [13:54] <Champ> is your java upto date?
#1468 [13:55] <obi_wan> I think so.
#1469 [13:55] <Champ> go to command prompt
#1470 [13:55] <obi_wan> I'm in Mozilla Firefox, is that okay?
#1471 [13:55] <Champ> and type java -version
#1472 [13:55] <obi_wan> how to a get to command prompt with windows xp?
#1473 [13:56] <Champ> start > run
#1474 [13:56] <Champ> then type cmd
#1475 [13:56] <Champ> that should work
#1476 [13:56] <obi_wan> 1.6.023
#1477 [13:56] <obi_wan> 1.6.0_23 is my version, I think.
#1478 [13:56] <Champ> kk
#1479 [13:56] <Champ> thats lateest
#1480 [13:56] <Champ> iirc
#1481 [13:57] <Champ> try copletely uninstalling java then reinstall
#1482 [13:57] <Champ> completely
#1483 [13:59] <obi_wan> Thanks Champ. I'll see if that works.
#1484 [13:59] <Champ> :) otherwise try a different browser maybe
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#1486 [13:59] <cometen> when you try to make your first world its really crap, I have a lot to learn
#1487 [14:00] <obi_wan> I tryed using internet explorer but idk it was all omgomomg no plug ins~ and i didn't understand it.
#1488 [14:00] <Champ> ie sucks
#1489 [14:00] <Champ> lol
#1490 [14:00] <Champ> hmm
#1491 [14:00] <obi_wan> haha alright.
#1492 [14:00] <Champ> try Chrome
#1493 [14:00] <Champ> My friend's works great on chrome
#1494 [14:00] <obi_wan> did you know oprahs getting her own internet broswer? :p
#1495 [14:00] <Champ> I'd kill myself :p
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#1497 [14:01] <Kealper> use Firefox, Chrome, Opera, or even Safari...but please stay away from IE lol
#1498 [14:01] <Champ> I agree
#1499 [14:01] <Champ> brb
#1500 [14:01] <Curuj> hi. is possible run two minecraft servers on one PC? i have already one survival...
#1501 [14:02] <Kealper> Curuj: yes, but you have to have the ram and processing requirements for that
#1502 [14:02] <Kealper> just run the second server on a different port
#1503 [14:02] <Curuj> Kealper: i have core i7 and 6 GB ram :)
#1504 [14:02] <Kealper> that'll work lol
#1505 [14:03] <Curuj> and i change port in cfg?
#1506 [14:03] <Kealper> Internet Explorer: The world's best browser...for downloading a different browser.
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#1508 [14:03] <Kealper> yes
#1509 [14:03] <Kealper> inside server.properties
#1510 [14:03] <Curuj> okay. thanx :)
#1511 [14:03] <Kealper> make sure you have that new port forwarded aswell
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#1513 [14:04] <Curuj> and when people want to connect, IP is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:port?
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#1515 [14:04] <Kealper> yup
#1516 [14:04] <obi_wan> Alright, so I just went to my computer and searched java. Theres about 30 different things. Do I just delete everything, orrrr?
#1517 [14:04] <Kealper> and i totally read that as Borland at first lol
#1518 [14:04] <Kealper> obi_wan: huh?
#1519 [14:04] <Curuj> Kealper: thanx again :)
#1520 [14:04] <Kealper> np
#1521 [14:04] <Curuj> bye
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#1523 [14:06] <obi_wan> well Kealper, minecraft goes black after its done loading then nothing happens, so champ said uninstall java completly and re-install.
#1524 [14:06] <Kealper> uhh...windows?
#1525 [14:07] <Kealper> if windows, just uninstall it the proper way through Add/Remove Programs (or Programs and Features under vista/7)
#1526 [14:09] <obi_wan> windows xp, yeah. alright thanks.
#1527 [14:09] <obi_wan> Wow, thanks so much guys, this is a lot better then the forums support section.
#1528 [14:12] <obi_wan> alright well brb.
#1529 [14:15] <xavier> kealpy!
#1530 [14:16] <Kealper> o.o
#1531 [14:16] <xavier> :D
#1532 [14:16] <xavier> i got itouch 4 :D
#1533 [14:16] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/RXOmD.jpg i got stuff to fix my pride and joy
#1534 [14:17] <Kealper> now i just have to wait for the local guitar shop to open back up so i can get a new set of stings
#1535 [14:17] <xavier> holy fix dood
#1536 [14:17] <xavier> u got dat 4 xmas? :D
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#1538 [14:18] <Kealper> not that, i've had the guitar, but the tuning machines (things you turn to tune the guitar, the chrome things) were screwed
#1539 [14:18] <xavier> :O
#1540 [14:19] <xavier> im gnna dualboot windows 7 with julia
#1541 [14:19] <xavier> :O
#1542 [14:19] <Kealper> that's what i've got set up right now lol
#1543 [14:19] <xavier> =o
#1544 [14:20] <xavier> but I installed mint before
#1545 [14:20] <Kealper> i was lazy and just did the mint4win installer with the max allocated space....lol
#1546 [14:20] <xavier> loll
#1547 [14:20] <xales> Kealper: do you hear that
#1548 [14:20] <xavier> xales: stop doin drugs
#1549 [14:20] <xavier> and whispers will stop
#1550 [14:20] <xales> not whispers
#1551 [14:20] <xales> :(
#1552 [14:21] <xavier> screams?
#1553 [14:21] <xales> the lack of people asking "OMG U GUYS SUCK WHERE IS MY MINECRAFT I PAID 5 SECONDS AGO AND SENT NOTCH 99 EMAILS AND HE DIDNT RESPOND"
#1554 [14:21] <xavier> lol
#1555 [14:21] <Kealper> xales: i was thinking EXACTLY that myself
#1556 [14:21] <xavier> !paid xales
#1557 [14:21] <xales> !paid AuBOt
#1558 [14:21] <xavier> :o
#1559 [14:21] <xales> hahahaha
#1560 [14:22] <xavier> look dis
#1561 [14:22] <Kealper> i expected there to be more people complaining :S
#1562 [14:22] <xavier> !paid I
#1563 [14:22] <xavier> :o
#1564 [14:22] <xales> !paid You
#1565 [14:22] <xavier> !paid xavier
#1566 [14:22] <xavier> !paid Xavier
#1567 [14:22] <xavier> which 1 is it
#1568 [14:22] <xavier> !paid xaviergmail
#1569 [14:22] <xavier> :d
#1570 [14:23] <xavier> sori 4 spam
#1571 [14:23] <xavier> kealper
#1572 [14:23] <xavier> kick me
#1573 [14:23] * Kealper kicks xavier
#1573 [14:23] <xales> !paid kea1per
#1574 [14:23] <xales> lol
#1575 [14:23] <xavier> !paid Kealper
#1576 [14:24] <xavier> kealper
#1577 [14:24] <xavier> a real kick
#1578 [14:24] <xavier> i wanna test something
#1579 [14:24] * Kealper kicked xavier from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: xavier)
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#1581 [14:24] <Kealper> testing your autojoin? lol
#1582 [14:24] <xavier> ye
#1583 [14:24] <xavier> i wasnt sure if it was /set irc_auto_rejoin 1
#1584 [14:24] <xavier> or 0
#1585 [14:24] <xavier> :D
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#1587 [14:25] <xavier> and wait
#1588 [14:25] <xavier> what
#1589 [14:25] <Kealper> might be dangerous to have that enabled if someone is actually trying to kick you though
#1590 [14:25] <xavier> win4mint installer?
#1591 [14:25] <xales> autojoin
#1592 [14:25] <Kealper> indeed
#1593 [14:25] <xales> is evil
#1594 [14:25] <xales> 95% of channels
#1595 [14:25] <xales> will ban on sight
#1596 [14:25] <xavier> o
#1597 [14:25] <Kealper> yea, if they notice you have autojoin on and you are kicked, they'll ban you for it
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#1599 [14:25] <xales> Q: How do I autorejoin channels after being kicked?
#1600 [14:25] <xales> A: That's evil and you shouldn't do it. If you get kicked, you should stay out, at least until the channel forgot you existed :) Most channels I've joined just ban you if you autorejoin after kick. If you're joined to channels who kick people for fun, try changing channels or something.
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#1603 [14:26] <fogWraith> O_o
#1604 [14:26] <Kealper> oh..guess i do have that enabled in the core itself
#1605 [14:26] <xavier> kealper
#1606 [14:26] <xavier> ban AuBot
#1607 [14:26] <xavier> :)
#1608 [14:26] <fogWraith> Poor AuBot
#1609 [14:26] <Kealper> lol
#1610 [14:27] <xavier> but im so hot
#1611 [14:27] <xavier> no1 wants to kick me
#1612 [14:27] <xavier> :s
#1613 [14:27] <Kealper> it's been the guineapig of far worse in the past lol
#1614 [14:27] <xavier> kealper tell me about that windows for mint installer
#1615 [14:27] <Kealper> including, but not limited to: kills and k-lines (for testing, ofcourse)
#1616 [14:28] <DanS> Excuse me I asked about this yesterday, did what someone suggested and the problem persists. When i try to open minecraft, the game crashed and leaves a text file with an error message on my desktop.
#1617 [14:28] <fogWraith> That poor... bot :P
#1618 [14:28] <xales> DanS: paste the error file
#1619 [14:28] <xales> on
#1620 [14:28] <xales> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com
#1621 [14:28] <Champ> joo beat me to it :O
#1622 [14:28] <Kealper> even as far as stability testing.....which includes removing the connection limit from said irc server and joining like 500 bots that spam every half a second each in different channels that it's in...
#1623 [14:28] <Champ> probably the usual hs_error214 blah blah whatever its called lol
#1624 [14:29] <xales> lol
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#1626 [14:30] <Champ> oh my 185MB of 190GB copied
#1627 [14:30] <Champ> :S
#1628 [14:31] <Kealper> O.o
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#1630 [14:31] <Kealper> new computer? lol
#1631 [14:31] <Champ> just got an Ext HDD
#1632 [14:31] <Kealper> oh lol
#1633 [14:31] <Champ> backing up all mah files heh
#1634 [14:32] <Kealper> hmm....i smell home made chili....
#1635 [14:32] * Kealper investigatse
#1635 [14:32] * Kealper needs some ESL
#1635 [14:32] <Champ> heh
#1636 [14:33] * fogWraith sends Kealper a seal
#1636 [14:34] <DanS> http://pastebin.com/gVFkVgkW
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#1638 [14:36] <Champ> my first wild guess: comp don't support opengl?
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#1640 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, windows 7 machine
#1641 [14:37] <Champ> or maybe just maybe try deleting the bin file?
#1642 [14:37] <Champ> worked for me one time
#1643 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, just needs a video driver update
#1644 [14:37] <Champ> ahh I forgot the simpler solutions heh
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#1646 [14:40] <DanS> i updates my graphics card and java haha
#1647 [14:40] <DanS> what is this about the bin file
#1648 [14:40] <DanS> ?
#1649 [14:40] <xales> DanS: http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#1650 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> DanS - Where did you update it from?
#1651 [14:40] <xales> follow reinstall guide
#1652 [14:40] <xavier> kealpewr
#1653 [14:40] <DanS> the thing is that it also doesnt work online
#1654 [14:40] <xavier> wats dat win4mint or w/e
#1655 [14:41] <DanS> i shows the minecraft logo for a sec and then just goes black
#1656 [14:41] <Kealper> mount the iso or insert the disc
#1657 [14:41] <xales> DanS: try reinstall guide
#1658 [14:41] <Kealper> and it'll let you do the mint4win
#1659 [14:41] <xavier> oo
#1660 [14:41] <Kealper> it's just a really lazy way of installing it and dualbooting without having to partition the hdd
#1661 [14:41] <xavier> won't it fuck up grub?
#1662 [14:42] <Kealper> uhh....do you use windows as a primary os? if yes: no it will not hurt anything
#1663 [14:42] <xavier> no
#1664 [14:42] <xavier> linux's primary
#1665 [14:43] <Kealper> oh
#1666 [14:43] <Kealper> then yea that will most definately screw over grub
#1667 [14:43] <xavier> =o
#1668 [14:47] <xavier> ima just reformat to windows 7 :d
#1669 [14:47] <xavier> lol
#1670 [14:48] <xavier> then I can use cartpgrapher :D
#1671 [14:48] <xavier> itunes
#1672 [14:48] <xavier> :d
#1673 [14:48] <xavier> and moar :D
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#1676 [14:48] <xavier> got owned
#1677 [14:49] <xavier> gf xales
#1678 [14:49] <xales> bildramer trolled me
#1679 [14:49] <xales> fml
#1680 [14:49] <bildramer> :>
#1681 [14:49] <Kealper> lolwut
#1682 [14:49] <Kealper> what'd i miss? lol
#1683 [14:49] <xavier> * xales is now known as herobrine
#1684 [14:49] <xavier> * herobrine has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by bildramer)))
#1685 [14:49] <xavier> that
#1686 [14:49] <xales> he was waiting for me
#1687 [14:49] <xales> -_-
#1688 [14:49] <Kealper> LOL
#1689 [14:50] <feenyx> ahaha
#1690 [14:50] <Kealper> nice bildramer
#1691 [14:50] <feenyx> classy :D
#1692 [14:50] <bildramer> no, like
#1693 [14:50] <bildramer> yes
#1694 [14:50] <xavier> and I put .minecraft on a usb stick then gonna reformat to windows 7
#1695 [14:50] <bildramer> lol win7
#1696 [14:50] <xales> 14:47 [espernet] -!- You were killed by NickServ [services@esper.net] [(GHOST command used by bildramer)] [Path: ]
#1697 [14:50] <xales> 14:47 [espernet] -!- ERROR Closing Link: darksigns.net (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by bildramer)))
#1698 [14:50] <xavier> ye
#1699 [14:50] <xales> -_-
#1700 [14:50] * xavier needs itunes
#1700 [14:51] <xavier> unless someone gives me a kind og copy of itunes
#1701 [14:51] <xavier> that can set up my ipod :O
#1702 [14:51] <DanS> hey xales what could i try to do about opengl to help my priblem?
#1703 [14:51] <xales> DanS: install what I sent you a link to
#1704 [14:52] <xales> otherwise, not much -_-
#1705 [14:52] <DanS> which link?
#1706 [14:52] <xales> in your private chat
#1707 [14:52] <DanS> i cant open a private chat with you
#1708 [14:52] <DanS> it got closed
#1709 [14:52] <xales> its still there
#1710 [14:52] <DanS> try pming me
#1711 [14:53] <xales> DanS: mibbit is garbage, it probably freaked out when I got killed
#1712 [14:53] <xales> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/mobile/catalyst_mobility_64-bit_util.exe
#1713 [14:55] <DanS> haha ivealready tried to dl ccc a bunch of times but it always works wierd
#1714 [14:55] <xales> thats the driver
#1715 [14:55] <xales> the control center is built in
#1716 [14:55] <xales> if you don't have it, thats probably why its not wokring
#1717 [14:56] <DanS> oh boy
#1718 [14:56] <DanS> ok
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#1720 [14:56] <DanS> i need to send in my computer
#1721 [14:56] <xales> why?
#1722 [14:56] <DanS> they definately installed my gpu wrong
#1723 [14:56] <xales> just install the driver
#1724 [14:56] <xales> :\
#1725 [14:56] <DanS> ok
#1726 [14:56] <DanS> haha
#1727 [14:57] <DanS> ok
#1728 [14:57] <DanS> im going to restart computer and try to open minecraft
#1729 [14:57] <DanS> wish me luck
#1730 [14:57] <xales> ok
#1731 [14:57] <xales> gl
#1732 [14:59] <xavier> kealper
#1733 [14:59] <xavier> http://www.scorpionmultimedia.com.au/Products/cooling/cpu_coolers/thermaltake/isg100_CPUFAN.jpg
#1734 [14:59] <xavier> :D
#1735 [14:59] <xavier> i haz dat in mai comp
#1736 [14:59] <Kealper> decent lol
#1737 [15:00] <xavier> ye
#1738 [15:00] <Kealper> i've just got the stock one that came with my cpu
#1739 [15:00] <xavier> XD
#1740 [15:00] <xavier> I had that
#1741 [15:00] <xavier> but
#1742 [15:00] <Kealper> works well enough lol
#1743 [15:00] <xavier> I broke a lil clip
#1744 [15:00] <xavier> while putting it back on
#1745 [15:00] <xavier> >.>
#1746 [15:00] <xavier> had to change it
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#1748 [15:01] <xales> this is mine lol
#1749 [15:01] <xales> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185147
#1750 [15:01] <xales> yours looks like the one that came with my processor :(
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#1753 [15:01] <DanielS> OK
#1754 [15:02] <DanielS> LITERALLY
#1755 [15:02] <xavier> I don't need a super huge fan dood
#1756 [15:02] <DanielS> xenon i love you
#1757 [15:02] <DanielS> thx for the help
#1758 [15:02] <DanielS> (it works)
#1759 [15:02] <xavier> and my compurer is silent
#1760 [15:02] <xales> xavier: but I do
#1761 [15:02] <xales> DanielS: no prob
#1762 [15:02] <DanielS> xales**
#1763 [15:03] <DanielS> sry lol
#1764 [15:03] <xales> ;)
#1765 [15:03] <DanielS> kthbye
#1766 [15:03] <xales> cya
#1767 [15:03] <xales> also
#1768 [15:03] <xales> oh nm
#1769 [15:03] <xales> i was gonna say
#1770 [15:03] <xales> xa -> tab
#1771 [15:03] <xavier> and why do you need a huge cpu fan
#1772 [15:04] <xales> overclocking
#1773 [15:04] <xales> :D
#1774 [15:04] <xavier> wut
#1775 [15:04] <xavier> ?
#1776 [15:04] <xales> meh
#1777 [15:05] <xales> running the processor faster than its rated to run
#1778 [15:05] <xales> im overclocking almost 300mhz
#1779 [15:05] <xales> :D
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#1781 [15:05] <xales> the processor speed is 3.1ghz I believe, but I run it at 3.4ghz
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#1784 [15:06] <Christougennian> yey
#1785 [15:06] <Kealper> newegg is being super slow right now
#1786 [15:06] <Christougennian> nothing like a new laptop :3
#1787 [15:06] <Christougennian> for xmas
#1788 [15:06] <Christougennian> not that it's usable yet
#1789 [15:07] * Kealper waits for images to load for xales' heatsink
#1789 [15:07] * Christougennian says okay, bye
#1789 [15:07] <xales> Kealper: :(
#1790 [15:07] <Kealper> oh grr....didn't load
#1791 [15:07] <xales> why does it take so long
#1792 [15:07] <Kealper> oh...there we go
#1793 [15:07] <Kealper> that's decent lol
#1794 [15:07] <xales> I had to remove part of my case for it to fit
#1795 [15:07] <xales> its bigger than it looks
#1796 [15:07] <xavier> lollllll
#1797 [15:08] <xavier> I could turn off my comp and touch my cpu
#1798 [15:08] <Kealper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118046 i'd like something like that
#1799 [15:08] <xales> though it was just a support bar, so its not a problem
#1800 [15:08] <Kealper> lol
#1801 [15:08] <xales> xavier: I can leave my computer on and touch it :P
#1802 [15:08] <xavier> so can i
#1803 [15:08] <xavier> but I dont want to get buzzed
#1804 [15:08] <xavier> :d
#1805 [15:08] <xales> lol
#1806 [15:09] <xales> the heatsink doesn't carry a charge
#1807 [15:09] <Kealper> same with my stock heatsink...got a 400mhz OC on my cpu and it still idles at under 100F :P
#1808 [15:09] <xales> and most components wont hurt you to touch them
#1809 [15:09] <xales> its more likely you will hur the components
#1810 [15:09] <xales> lol
#1811 [15:09] <xales> I havent put mine any higher
#1812 [15:09] <xales> no need
#1813 [15:09] <xales> :\
#1814 [15:10] <Kealper> there was a need to OC mine....the thing is 2.6ghz stock :S
#1815 [15:10] <xavier> :O
#1816 [15:10] <xavier> ekalper
#1817 [15:11] <xavier> where r comp specs in mint
#1818 [15:12] <Kealper> idk
#1819 [15:12] <xales> lol
#1820 [15:12] <xales> mint?
#1821 [15:12] <xales> linux? lshw maybe
#1822 [15:12] <xavier> lshw?
#1823 [15:12] <xales> lshw
#1824 [15:12] <xales> $ lshw
#1825 [15:14] <Kealper> if you see something that makes absolutely no sense as an english word for linux, 95% of the time, it's going to be a terminal command lol
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#1827 [15:17] <Wahrheit> !paid genocidegeorge
#1828 [15:17] <Wahrheit> oh snap
#1829 [15:19] <xales> Kealper: lol
#1830 [15:19] <xales> what about free?
#1831 [15:19] <xales> thats a word
#1832 [15:19] <xales> :/
#1833 [15:19] <Kealper> 95% of the time...lol
#1834 [15:20] <Kealper> !paid Hitler
#1835 [15:20] <Kealper> someone should totally do that...
#1836 [15:20] <Wahrheit> !paid georgewashington
#1837 [15:20] <Wahrheit> HAHAAHAHA
#1838 [15:20] <Wahrheit> gg
#1839 [15:20] <Kealper> xD
#1840 [15:20] <Wahrheit> !paid barackobama
#1841 [15:20] <Wahrheit> !paid obama
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#1843 [15:20] <Wahrheit> !paid obama
#1844 [15:20] <Wahrheit> !paid obama
#1845 [15:21] <Wahrheit> SCANDALOUS
#1846 [15:21] <Wahrheit> !paid snookie
#1847 [15:21] <Wahrheit> hahaha
#1848 [15:21] <Wahrheit> this is my new favorite game
#1849 [15:21] <Kealper> lol
#1850 [15:21] <xales> !paid santa
#1851 [15:21] <xales> !paid sex
#1852 [15:21] <Wahrheit> d'aww
#1853 [15:21] <xavier> xales: Dual core Intel Core2 6300 (-MCP-) cache 2048 KB
#1854 [15:21] <xavier> Clock Speeds: (1) 1866.585 MHz (2) 1866.585 MHz
#1855 [15:21] <xales> !paid sex
#1856 [15:21] <Wahrheit> 10sec cooldown
#1857 [15:21] <Wahrheit> !paid hooker
#1858 [15:22] <xales> xavier: wow
#1859 [15:22] <xales> thats slow
#1860 [15:22] <xales> lol
#1861 [15:22] <xavier> :o
#1862 [15:22] <Kealper> !paid some random hobo
#1863 [15:22] <xavier> !paid my dick
#1864 [15:22] <Wahrheit> !paid penis
#1865 [15:22] <Kealper> oh my
#1866 [15:22] <xavier> !paid I
#1867 [15:22] <Wahrheit> !paid thegame
#1868 [15:22] <Wahrheit> !paid the game
#1869 [15:22] <Wahrheit> !paid georgebush
#1870 [15:22] <Wahrheit> HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
#1871 [15:23] <Kealper> !paid Minecraft
#1872 [15:23] <Kealper> o.o
#1873 [15:23] <Wahrheit> !paid notch
#1874 [15:23] <xavier> !paid Mojang specifications
#1875 [15:23] <xavier> !paid Mojang
#1876 [15:23] <xavier> :(
#1877 [15:23] <Wahrheit> !paid jesus
#1878 [15:23] <Wahrheit> WOW WHAT A TROLL
#1879 [15:23] <Wahrheit> !paid god
#1880 [15:24] <Kealper> lol
#1881 [15:24] <xavier> Wahrheit: stop it
#1882 [15:24] <Wahrheit> Okay.
#1883 [15:24] <Kealper> going a bit crazy on the spam there, i should point out
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#1885 [15:24] <xavier> and xales my comp is still fast.. lol >.>
#1886 [15:24] <Champ> !paid me!!
#1887 [15:24] <Champ> :O
#1888 [15:24] <Wahrheit> no it's
#1889 [15:24] <Wahrheit> !paid Champ
#1890 [15:24] <Champ> :O
#1891 [15:24] <xavier> gtfo hacker!
#1892 [15:24] <Champ> this not mah minecraft name tho
#1893 [15:24] <Kealper> you can use "me" as a thing and it will use your irc nick
#1894 [15:25] <xavier> !PAID ME
#1895 [15:25] <Xaviergmail> !paid me
#1896 [15:25] <Champ> !paid karenlharrison
#1897 [15:25] <Champ> :D
#1898 [15:25] <Xaviergmail> ok
#1899 [15:25] <xales> !paid me
#1900 [15:25] <Xaviergmail> formatting time
#1901 [15:25] <Kealper> chillax on the spam though :/
#1902 [15:25] <xales> bangarang
#1903 [15:25] * Champ stopz
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#1904 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> !paid me
#1905 [15:29] * GreyVulpine snickers
#1905 [15:30] <Kealper> lolwut
#1906 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> control characters :)
#1907 [15:30] <Kealper> oh....i see what you did there
#1908 [15:30] <Kealper> xchat strips them so i can't see or copy them :S lol
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#1910 [15:31] <Xaviergmail> 09is this green?
#1911 [15:31] <Noxy|Slumber> yep
#1912 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> 4No, it's Red
#1913 [15:32] <Champ> 6purple is better
#1914 [15:32] <Wahrheit> 12blue master race
#1915 [15:32] <Kealper> 3,04get it right, it's Christmas colors that are the best
#1916 [15:32] <Champ> ok
#1917 [15:32] <Champ> i see
#1918 [15:32] <Kealper> wow that is hard on the eyes....lol
#1919 [15:32] <Noxy|Slumber> Kealper that looks like Anus fluid covered in blood :|
#1920 [15:33] <Kealper> lol
#1921 [15:33] <Champ> :S
#1922 [15:33] <xales> lol
#1923 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> 0,8This is worse.
#1924 [15:33] <Kealper> yes....yes it is
#1925 [15:33] <Champ> ahahhh
#1926 [15:34] <xales> 15,15 -_-
#1927 [15:34] <xales> :P
#1928 [15:34] <Xaviergmail> 0503 lol
#1929 [15:34] <Kealper> sekret messegs
#1930 [15:34] <Xaviergmail> :(
#1931 [15:34] <xales> 11 blinky text
#1932 [15:34] <Xaviergmail> 03
#1933 [15:34] <xales> supposedly
#1934 [15:34] <Xaviergmail>
03
#1935 [15:35] <xales> lol
#1936 [15:35] <Xaviergmail> no
#1937 [15:35] <xales> 15:34 Xaviergmail [xavier@24-122-60-136.dr.cgocable.ca] requested unknown CTCP 03 from #MineCraftHelp:
#1938 [15:35] <Xaviergmail> :O
#1939 [15:35] <Kealper> O.o irrsi
#1940 [15:35] <Kealper> irssi*
#1941 [15:35] <xales> lol
#1942 [15:36] <xales> http://darksigns.net/irssiforever.png
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#1944 [15:36] <Kealper> bah
#1945 [15:36] <xales> O.o xchat
#1946 [15:36] <Kealper> i seen that >>>
#1947 [15:36] <Kealper> >.>*
#1948 [15:37] <Kealper> indeed
#1949 [15:37] <Kealper> i seen that aswell >.>
#1950 [15:37] <xales> lol xchat doesnt honor old CTCP
#1951 [15:37] <xales> 15:37 [espernet] [ctcp(xales)] USERINFO
#1952 [15:37] <xales> 15:37 [espernet] xales [xales@darksigns.net] requested CTCP USERINFO from xales:
#1953 [15:37] <xales> 15:37 [espernet] CTCP USERINFO reply from xales: xales
#1954 [15:37] * Kealper sighs at xchat
#1954 [15:37] <Kealper> [15:37:34] * userinfo :Unknown command
#1955 [15:38] <xales> lol
#1956 [15:38] <xales> mirc doesn't honor it either
#1957 [15:38] <Xaviergmail> xales
#1958 [15:38] <xales> i havent seen a gui client that does actually
#1959 [15:38] <Xaviergmail> windows xp + zune = fail
#1960 [15:38] <xales> bitchx and ircii do
#1961 [15:38] <xales> Xaviergmail: its better than fucking blue and green shit
#1962 [15:38] <Xaviergmail> get win 7
#1963 [15:38] <xales> hahahahahaha
#1964 [15:38] <xales> no
#1965 [15:38] <Xaviergmail> hahaha yes
#1966 [15:38] <Xaviergmail> haxor it
#1967 [15:38] <xales> I don't want win7
#1968 [15:38] <Xaviergmail> like i did
#1969 [15:38] <xales> or I would have already
#1970 [15:38] <Xaviergmail> 45 minutes download
#1971 [15:38] <xales> ._.
#1972 [15:39] <Xaviergmail> it p0wns xp
#1973 [15:39] <xales> actually it doesn't
#1974 [15:39] <xales> besides
#1975 [15:39] <xales> look how much stuff I had open
#1976 [15:39] <xales> exactly...3 programs
#1977 [15:39] <xales> I don't use windows for much
#1978 [15:39] <Kealper> tbh windows 7 is far better than xp in every way, that is...if your computer doesn't suck
#1979 [15:40] <Noxy|Slumber> Hiya, I realise this is the offical help channel and as such cannot ask questions on map generators etc, but would someone be able to point me to where I can ask about that please? :(
#1980 [15:40] <Xaviergmail> i agree with Kealper
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#1982 [15:40] <Xaviergmail> pm me
#1983 [15:41] <xales> Kealper: I disagree
#1984 [15:41] <xales> and my computer doesn't suck -_-
#1985 [15:41] <xales> this is my real desktop btw
#1986 [15:41] <xales> http://jakegreenfield.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/screenshot-01.jpeg
#1987 [15:41] <Kealper> most of the problems with people absolutely hating 7 and vista is they are either afraid of change, and never gave it a fair shot, or the computer they tried it on barely met the min reqs
#1988 [15:41] <Kealper> gg
#1989 [15:41] <xales> Kealper: I know that
#1990 [15:41] <xales> however
#1991 [15:41] <xales> I still don't like it
#1992 [15:41] <xales> it has numerous problems
#1993 [15:41] <xales> #1 is I like my ram
#1994 [15:41] <xales> and my HDD not breaking in 2 years
#1995 [15:42] <Kealper> well yea, to each their own..but i'm just saying that most of those diehard windows 7 haters are just...misinformed..
#1996 [15:42] <Kealper> what os is that?
#1997 [15:43] <xales> Gentoo
#1998 [15:43] <Kealper> well...what desktop enviroment is that i should say
#1999 [15:43] <xales> Fluxbox
#2000 [15:43] <Kealper> oh...never used it....lol
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#2002 [15:43] <xales> its designed to be lightweight
#2003 [15:46] * Kealper reinstalls mint
#2003 [15:47] <xales> why?
#2004 [15:47] <xales> :P
#2005 [15:47] <Kealper> because i totally broke my last installation lol
#2006 [15:47] <Kealper> totally broke...lol
#2007 [15:48] <xales> lol
#2008 [15:48] <xales> install gentoo instead and use fluxbox :O
#2009 [15:48] <xales> or uninstall the environment that mint comes with and install fluxbox
#2010 [15:48] <Kealper> i don't want to repartition the hdd to install gentoo :S
#2011 [15:48] <Kealper> but i'm sure there is a package i can get to install fluxbox
#2012 [15:49] <xales> absolutely
#2013 [15:49] <xales> its called fluxbox
#2014 [15:49] <xales> lol
#2015 [15:49] <Kealper> lol
#2016 [15:49] <xales> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/fluxbox
#2017 [15:49] <Kealper> xD
#2018 [15:50] <Noxy|Slumber> Anyone know of a resource with uploaded "cool" maps I can check out?
#2019 [15:51] <Kealper> peruse the forums, that's about the only place i can think of :S
#2020 [15:51] <Noxy|Slumber> Thanks Kealper
#2021 [15:51] <Noxy|Slumber> Oh and hope you have a nice Xmas :)
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#2024 [15:53] <Kealper> alright i'll be back in a bit...gotta switch over to get this all set up
#2025 [15:53] <Anthro> ok so my monitor just went black and tells me theres no signal this only happens well playing minecraft
#2026 [15:53] <xales> Anthro: update video card drivers
#2027 [15:54] <Anthro> i am only able to correct the problem by hard shutting down my comp but doing that resultes in me losing all of my worlds
#2028 [15:54] <Anthro> and where mite i do that?
#2029 [15:54] <Anthro> how can i fix this without me losing my worlds? i just found a saddle in a chest in a dungeon
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#2032 [15:58] <Anthro> anyone?
#2033 [15:58] <xales> Anthro: what kind of video card do you have
#2034 [15:59] <Anthro> not sure
#2035 [16:00] <Anthro> a radeon 1700 pro i think
#2036 [16:01] <xales> thats not a model number available on the site
#2037 [16:01] <Anthro> kinda cant check lol but this problem only happens when i play minecraft not when i play world of warcraft
#2038 [16:01] <xales> can you double check?
#2039 [16:01] <xales> device manager?
#2040 [16:02] <Anthro> i cant look at anything right nw cuase my monitor on my pc is telling me no analog signal
#2041 [16:02] <Anthro> im on my gfs laptop
#2042 [16:03] <xales> well, if its telling you no signal
#2043 [16:03] <xales> it sounds like a problem with your graphics card
#2044 [16:03] <xales> how old is the computer?
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#2046 [16:03] <Anthro> but again this only hapepns with minecraft
#2047 [16:03] <Kealper> that was quick
#2048 [16:03] <Anthro> and lil less then 3 years
#2049 [16:04] <xales> lol Kealper
#2050 [16:04] <xales> just op your bot and have it autoop you :P
#2051 [16:04] <Kealper> thanks grey lol
#2052 [16:05] <Kealper> too lazy
#2053 [16:05] <xales> Anthro: the x1700 is an old card
#2054 [16:05] <Kealper> i'd have to start up mod_bot for it to do that, that is the one with the automode and stuff in it :S
#2055 [16:05] <Anthro> that one yea
#2056 [16:06] <Anthro> older then my comp?
#2057 [16:06] <xales> lol so Kealper?
#2058 [16:06] <xales> Anthro: yeah
#2059 [16:06] <xales> the card is from 2005/6
#2060 [16:06] <Anthro> damn it
#2061 [16:06] <Anthro> ah ok
#2062 [16:06] <xales> and I can't find any official driver downloads for it, so I don't think its supported
#2063 [16:06] <Kealper> xales: much of that module would have to be rewritten, since it was made on a network that did not have flood control
#2064 [16:06] <xales> why is that?
#2065 [16:07] <xales> what would the bot do flooding-wise? lol
#2066 [16:07] <Kealper> like the help command would send each thing line-by-line and such
#2067 [16:07] <Kealper> and the rss feed reader....has no flood control on it either
#2068 [16:07] <Anthro> so theres no way to save my worlds huh?
#2069 [16:07] <xales> so write a 2 line mod_op
#2070 [16:07] <xales> on_join op(kealper) end
#2071 [16:07] <Kealper> lol
#2072 [16:07] <xales> Anthro: you can save your world
#2073 [16:08] <xales> it saves by itself all the time
#2074 [16:08] <xales> or you can hit esc and force it to save
#2075 [16:08] <Anthro> no i mean everytime i have had to hold the power button on my comp to shut it down i come back and all saved worlds in minecraft are gone
#2076 [16:08] <Kealper> oh rawr..i have to restart to use fglrx..
#2077 [16:08] <xales> void on_join(nick, channel) { if(nick == "kealper" && channel == "#minecrafthelp"){op(nick, channel);}
#2078 [16:09] <xales> Anthro: then it sounds like that isnt the only problem
#2079 [16:09] <Kealper> if aubot was a mircscript or similar, that might work lol
#2080 [16:09] <Anthro> what do you guys think it mite be then?
#2081 [16:09] <xales> ok then RAW("MODE #minecrafthelp O KEALPER" or something
#2082 [16:09] <xales> Anthro: it may be that the card is too old, or something else
#2083 [16:09] <xales> what version of windows are you using?
#2084 [16:09] <Anthro> cuase thats bullshit i built a mage tower damn it
#2085 [16:10] <Anthro> vista home premium
#2086 [16:10] <xales> it may be overheating too
#2087 [16:10] <xales> yeah actually
#2088 [16:10] <xales> I think the problem might be the card overheatingh
#2089 [16:10] <xales> anyway
#2090 [16:10] <xales> i gotta go for a bit, ill be back soon
#2091 [16:10] <Kealper> TCPSend($Socket, "MODE #MinecraftHelp Kealper :+O" & @CRLF) i think lol...i'd have to check, been too long since i've worked with irc itself...wrapper functions ftl
#2092 [16:11] <xales> lol
#2093 [16:11] <xales> mode #minecrafthelp : +o kealper
#2094 [16:11] <xales> im thinking would be it
#2095 [16:11] <xales> anyway
#2096 [16:11] <xales> /away
#2097 [16:11] <Kealper> lol
#2098 [16:13] <Anthro> sigh so im gonna lose my worlds huh?
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#2100 [16:13] <Kealper> depends, what did you want to do?
#2101 [16:14] <obi_wan> Kealper, I still can't load MineCraft... I'm on google chrome.
#2102 [16:14] <obi_wan> Same problem.
#2103 [16:14] <Kealper> what was the original problem? lol
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#2105 [16:15] <syth406> hi can someone help me with how to set up a minecraft server?
#2106 [16:15] <obi_wan> I load up minecraft and it loads all the way about 90%, it says done loading, then the screen goes black.
#2107 [16:15] <Kealper> O.o
#2108 [16:15] <Anthro> so my monitor tells me theres no analog signal and wont show me my screen, now everytime this has happend i been playing minecraft and i am only able o fix the probem so far bu holding the power button and shutting down that way
#2109 [16:15] <Kealper> obi_wan: did you try and delete your .minecraft folder?
#2110 [16:16] <obi_wan> Yup.
#2111 [16:16] <Anthro> and when i start back up all my saved worlds in minecraft are gone
#2112 [16:16] <Kealper> Anthro: every time you start minecraft? or randomly?
#2113 [16:16] <syth406> did u try downloading it again?
#2114 [16:16] <Kealper> syth406: did you try reading the wiki on setting up your own server?
#2115 [16:16] <Kealper> http://minecraftwiki.net
#2116 [16:16] <Anthro> no only during play in minecraft
#2117 [16:17] <Anthro> i have played Wow and it never happend
#2118 [16:17] <Kealper> hmm...and you've got updated graphics drivers and such? because that sounds like a video card issue with OpenGL
#2119 [16:17] <Anthro> its happend three times so far and i have done so much in my worlds currently
#2120 [16:17] <Anthro> how would the worlds being deleted be a grpahics problem
#2121 [16:18] <Kealper> the worlds are not being deleted, they are just not being saved
#2122 [16:18] <Anthro> thats the thing they have been saved previpously
#2123 [16:18] <Kealper> since you are just shutting off the computer, minecraft does not have a chance to save
#2124 [16:18] <Kealper> the way minecraft opens it, sadly, will erase the world if it does not get a chance to save :S
#2125 [16:19] <Anthro> then shoudlnt it revert back to the perviouse saved bit?
#2126 [16:19] <Anthro> THATS BULLSHIT
#2127 [16:19] <Kealper> that's life
#2128 [16:19] <Anthro> no fuck that thats not life
#2129 [16:19] <obi_wan> okay well Anthro you're lucky you can play atleast... -.-
#2130 [16:19] <Anthro> thats a major game problem
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#2132 [16:20] <Anthro> try playing in the browser obi_wan
#2133 [16:20] <Kealper> obi_wan: i really don't know what's up with that for you then :S
#2134 [16:20] <obi_wan> I did, thats what I meant, it happens in both.
#2135 [16:20] <obi_wan> OMFG NOBODY KNOWS. -_-
#2136 [16:20] <Kealper> obi_wan: what are you trying to play it on?
#2137 [16:20] <obi_wan> well i normally use mozilla, then Champ told me to get chrome, so I got chrome.
#2138 [16:21] <Kealper> no, os? computer specs?
#2139 [16:21] <obi_wan> wait one sec lemme try again on chrome.
#2140 [16:21] <Anthro> how could soemthing liek that slip by notch i know hes busy and doing his best but what the hell
#2141 [16:21] <Kealper> it's not that it slipped by him
#2142 [16:21] <Anthro> how could soemthing liek that slip by notch i know hes busy and doing his best but what the hell ALL my worlds
#2143 [16:22] <Kealper> minecraft opens file handles on the chunks that it needs to manipulate, so it can do it faster by using them in the ram
#2144 [16:22] <Kealper> if the file handles do not get closed properly, or it was writing something when it shut down, then those files are now corrupt
#2145 [16:23] <Kealper> and since it always has level.dat open...if that gets corrupt, the entire map is shot
#2146 [16:23] <obi_wan> Kealper:On Chrome its just a white screen.
#2147 [16:23] <Champ> My map had a giant hole in it whn I returned to it
#2148 [16:23] <Anthro> and so to make the whole process faster he allowed something that would delet all the worlds someone has saved if the program isnt shut down in a certin way?
#2149 [16:23] <ionface> so the best thing to do is a daily backup of the .minecraft folder right?
#2150 [16:23] <Champ> just a huge block of "Unknown"
#2151 [16:23] <Anthro> where the shit is this folder cuase i dont have one
#2152 [16:24] <obi_wan> or wait no..... the same thing happens on chrome.
#2153 [16:24] <obi_wan> it just says done loading for a sec,
#2154 [16:24] <obi_wan> then its black
#2155 [16:24] <Champ> hmm
#2156 [16:24] <ionface> Anthro, application data, check Documents and Settings
#2157 [16:24] <ionface> obi_wan, give it a long time to load
#2158 [16:25] <Anthro> alright, thats stills oemthing notch needs to look into im sick of diigging and finding awesome caverns and building houses just to have themm all deleted cuase of soem tiny stupid lil issue
#2159 [16:25] <Kealper> Anthro: there is no looking in to that...it's just how everything works
#2160 [16:25] <obi_wan> ionface , like just let it stay black for a super long time?
#2161 [16:25] <ionface> obi_wan, yep :D
#2162 [16:25] <obi_wan> alright, thanks. i'll see what happens.
#2163 [16:25] <ionface> obi_wan, watch a tv show or something
#2164 [16:26] <Kealper> which is why you are not supposed to just cut the power on your computer anyways, because the same thing can happen to important windows files if those are open at the time of power loss
#2165 [16:26] <Anthro> how the hell can he not fix that it seems like a HUGE flaw with the game
#2166 [16:26] <ionface> obi_wan, what kind of computer is it? hardware?
#2167 [16:26] <Anthro> thats the thing its never happend with windows files either just minecraft
#2168 [16:26] <obi_wan> oh, one sec. I posted on the forums so lemme just copy and paste it.
#2169 [16:26] <Kealper> Anthro: if you just want to sit in here and bitch about how the programmer can make a better game, either fix it yourself or leave
#2170 [16:27] <Kealper> this is a help channel, and complaining is not helping
#2171 [16:27] <obi_wan> ionface , System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 3 Computer: AMD Sempron (tm) 2200+ 1.51 GHz, 448 MB of RAM Main Driver: SiSGRV.dll Version: 6.14.0010.3920 (English) Date: 4/12/2010
#2172 [16:27] <Anthro> hey im not bitching about why the games broken im trying to understand and save my days of work in my two worlds
#2173 [16:27] <obi_wan> Device: SiS 741 Manufacturer: SiS Chip Type: SiS 741 DAC Type: Internal Approx. Total Memory: 64.0 MB
#2174 [16:28] <Champ> over all we still have to remember: It's a game
#2175 [16:28] <Anthro> ooo xp pro version nice
#2176 [16:28] <ionface> hmmm... obi_wan I'm afraid that's totally not enough RAM
#2177 [16:28] <Kealper> obi_wan: ouch...i'm pretty sure that won't run minecraft, and if it will, it will not run well :S
#2178 [16:28] <ionface> obi_wan, what's the video card?
#2179 [16:28] <obi_wan> thats what they said on the forums. lame... -_-
#2180 [16:28] <Kealper> SIS
#2181 [16:28] <ionface> ew
#2182 [16:28] <ionface> yeah, that's not gonna cut it :/
#2183 [16:29] <obi_wan> well how can I fix it then ? like get more RAM or whatever?
#2184 [16:29] <Kealper> obi_wan: it's still xmas, hit up newegg and get begging for a gig of ram and a geforce 8400 :P
#2185 [16:29] <ionface> obi_wan, is it a laptop?
#2186 [16:29] <Anthro> hmmm i had an ati graphics card somewhere
#2187 [16:29] <Kealper> cheap stuff, and it'll make it work :P
#2188 [16:30] <Anthro> aww shit i dismanteled that card damn it
#2189 [16:30] <obi_wan> no its a desktop. (or whatever you call the computers that aren't laptops..)
#2190 [16:30] <Anthro> probl was better then my radeon x1700
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#2192 [16:30] <ionface> obi_wan, what Kealper said, but make sure your motherboard has the slots for whichever card you're getting (and takes the RAM too)
#2193 [16:31] <Kealper> i've actually got a spare pci gf8400gs laying around, so it'd go in just about anything, and it was dirt cheap lol
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#2195 [16:31] <Anthro> ati is relitivly new right?
#2196 [16:31] <obi_wan> why is this so complicated to play just a game..... man. my motherboard?! like wtf.
#2197 [16:31] <Kealper> they've been around for just as long as nvidia
#2198 [16:31] <Anthro> lol
#2199 [16:31] <Anthro> hmmm
#2200 [16:31] <ionface> obi_wan, look up the model number for the motherboard or computer, and it should have a list of approved memory, and the slots are like "AGP" or "PCIe" in the computer's details
#2201 [16:32] <Kealper> obi_wan: when said game needs to have like 8 million destructable blocks, things get complicated
#2202 [16:32] <Anthro> crap well thanks for your help guys
#2203 [16:32] <Anthro> guess ill go and try to fix this
#2204 [16:32] <obi_wan> hahhahaha alright well....
#2205 [16:32] <obi_wan> i'll try tomorrow or something. I'm just gonna play fall out I guesse.
#2206 [16:33] <Anthro> obiwan u got saints row 2?
#2207 [16:33] <Kealper> :/
#2208 [16:33] <ionface> obi_wan, k, have fun :D
#2209 [16:33] <obi_wan> Anthro no I don't.
#2210 [16:33] <Anthro> damn
#2211 [16:33] <obi_wan> ahhhhh sorry guys I know you're trying to help me but its kinda complicated for a 13 year old, if you ask me.
#2212 [16:34] <xales> Anthro: run as administrator
#2213 [16:34] <xales> also, the problem is that your card is overheating
#2214 [16:34] <Anthro> run what as admin?
#2215 [16:34] <xales> make sure that there is nothing blocking airflow to the computer
#2216 [16:34] <xales> Anthro: minecraft
#2217 [16:34] <xales> that is probably why it isn't saving right
#2218 [16:34] <Anthro> yea i thought the same
#2219 [16:34] <Anthro> ok
#2220 [16:35] <Anthro> the game saves just when i have to power off it deletes my worlds but kealper already enlightened me on the bloody issue
#2221 [16:35] <ionface> so SMP has lava which doesn't flow?
#2222 [16:37] <obi_wan> Alright so you're telling me ionface/Anthro that I have to now spend like 100$ just to go play MineCraft? Is there no simpler way? The guy on the forums said maybe update my video driver. Do you think that'd do anything? also how do I do that? -.-
#2223 [16:38] <ionface> obi_wan, with better hardware, you could play other games too, like Fallout 3
#2224 [16:38] <xales> no
#2225 [16:38] <xales> lava slows in smp
#2226 [16:38] <ionface> obi_wan, or FO:NV
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#2228 [16:38] <xales> obi_wan: what OS and what video card
#2229 [16:38] <ionface> xales, hmmm
#2230 [16:39] <xales> ionface: hmmm
#2231 [16:39] <obi_wan> System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 3 Computer: AMD Sempron (tm) 2200+ 1.51 GHz, 448 MB of RAM Main Driver: SiSGRV.dll Version: 6.14.0010.3920 (English) Date: 4/12/2010 Device: SiS 741 Manufacturer: SiS Chip Type: SiS 741 DAC Type: In
#2232 [16:39] <ionface> xales, thanks, I'll test that by waiting longer while building the thing
#2233 [16:39] <xales> lava takes a lil while to flow
#2234 [16:39] <xales> its not fast like water
#2235 [16:40] <xales> oh wow
#2236 [16:40] <xales> yeah
#2237 [16:40] <xales> that computer won't be able to play minecraft
#2238 [16:40] <xales> nowhere near
#2239 [16:40] <xales> not enough ram, not a sufficient card
#2240 [16:40] <xales> possibly not even a good enoguh cpu -_-
#2241 [16:41] <ionface> the CPU is the bottleneck, but not much can be done about it
#2242 [16:41] <xales> ram too
#2243 [16:41] <obi_wan> I might throw my computer out my window. Right now. This is pissing me off so much. I'll have to wait like another month to play MC when I already waited about 3. Aw man.
#2244 [16:41] <Kealper> oh wow an SIS 741 sucks hard
#2245 [16:41] <xales> 400mb of ram, means probably 150 for minecraft
#2246 [16:41] <xales> which is nowhere enough
#2247 [16:41] <xales> ionface: I think everything is the bottleneck in that case
#2248 [16:41] <ionface> xales, right/
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#2250 [16:41] <xales> obi_wan, you would probably need a new computer :\
#2251 [16:42] <xales> I can't see it being cost-effective to upgrade individual components
#2252 [16:42] <ionface> xales, MC seems to be okay on my system for RAM usage and videos
#2253 [16:42] <xales> it needs about 300MB of ram minimum
#2254 [16:42] <obi_wan> Yeah I'll ask my mom. How much is Mac ? :D
#2255 [16:42] <ionface> xales, but yeah, his system would choke all the way down
#2256 [16:42] <xales> obi_wan: cheapest is like $999
#2257 [16:42] <Kealper> obi_wan: 10x more than a pc
#2258 [16:42] <xales> and those wont play minecraft either
#2259 [16:42] <xales> soo
#2260 [16:42] <xales> ionface: XP uses about 200mb for itself
#2261 [16:43] <xales> :/
#2262 [16:43] <Kealper> safest bet is just to put on the puppy eyes and beg for a new Dell or something
#2263 [16:43] <xales> Asus*
#2264 [16:43] <xales> dell is crap
#2265 [16:43] <xales> falls apart after a year
#2266 [16:43] <xales> the cheap ones, anyway
#2267 [16:43] <Kealper> dell is cheap though
#2268 [16:43] <obi_wan> oh and just BYYY THHEEE WAAAYYYY I could run MC like... whenever it was that Notch had that free weekend. Then my computer got a virus and the guy that fixed all he did was reset and wipe everything.
#2269 [16:43] <xales> cost of ownership, Kealper
#2270 [16:43] <xales> after a year gotta buy a new one
#2271 [16:43] <Kealper> i never said long term cheap :P
#2272 [16:43] <xales> cheaper to get a Mac, most likkely. they last _forever_
#2273 [16:44] <xales> someone gave me a G3 that still works ._.
#2274 [16:44] <obi_wan> Well what pc would be good then ?
#2275 [16:44] <xales> obi_wan: pretty much any non-netbook computer
#2276 [16:44] <Kealper> but hey, my parents have a dell, with me around, it's still alive and kicking after like 6 years
#2277 [16:44] <xales> thats over $400 or so
#2278 [16:44] <xales> Kealper: recently, they suck more
#2279 [16:44] <Kealper> oh..that explains it then
#2280 [16:44] <fork> DUDE
#2281 [16:44] <fork> UR GETTIN A DELL~
#2282 [16:44] <xales> I can't imagine they can fit any more capatilist dick in their mouth
#2283 [16:44] <Kealper> xD
#2284 [16:44] <xales> capitalist*
#2285 [16:45] * Kealper tries minecraft without running fglrx yet
#2285 [16:45] <obi_wan> Alright well gtg peaceeee guys thanks for the help. :D
#2286 [16:45] <Kealper> bring on the lag!
#2287 [16:46] * Kealper sighs at the grey screen of doing nothing
#2287 [16:47] <Kealper> ok then...brb restarting
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#2289 [16:49] <Kealper> that shuts down at the speed of light...but starts back up at the speed of smell..
#2290 [16:49] <xales> lol
#2291 [16:50] <Kealper> like...restarting..i clicked restart, the screen flickered once, went black, and it was at the bios post screen again lol
#2292 [16:51] <xales> aww
#2293 [16:51] <Kealper> :O minecraft works
#2294 [16:51] <xales> kealper didn't get his @
#2295 [16:51] <xales> :O
#2296 [16:51] <Kealper> yea...was too lazy to make aubot aop me and i won't bug grey today lol
#2297 [16:52] <xales> lol
#2298 [16:52] * xales has an autoop bot
#2298 [16:52] <xales> :P
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#2300 [16:52] <xalesbot> hi there!
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#2302 [16:52] <xales> lol
#2303 [16:52] <Kealper> and afaik neither of the other ops have channel owner over chanserv in here :S
#2304 [16:52] <Kealper> lol
#2305 [16:52] <xales> only need SOP
#2306 [16:52] <xales> but as you said
#2307 [16:52] <xales> ;)
#2308 [16:53] <lukegb> xales: only need AOP
#2309 [16:53] <Champ> SOP is +a
#2310 [16:53] <lukegb> Then you can use /cs op
#2311 [16:53] <Champ> AOP is +o
#2312 [16:53] <xales> no +a on esper
#2313 [16:53] <xales> SOP here means you can change AOP/etc lists
#2314 [16:53] <lukegb> Except the you'd be able to /mode +o anyway
#2315 [16:53] <Champ> ahh
#2316 [16:53] <Champ> doh
#2317 [16:53] <Kealper> i mean to set some one on the aop list
#2318 [16:53] <Champ> who doesn't like +a and +q
#2319 [16:53] <xales> lukegb: indeed. but nobody can put him on AOP
#2320 [16:53] <Kealper> i'll have to wait for TrueWolves to get back, he's channel owner
#2321 [16:54] <xales> Champ: esper doesnt use unrealirdc or whichever one it has that supports that
#2322 [16:54] <xales> ircd*
#2323 [16:54] <Champ> oh I never even checked to see what it used
#2324 [16:54] <Kealper> internet relay daemon chat ftw
#2325 [16:54] <Champ> normally I do heh
#2326 [16:54] <xales> esphycd or something like that
#2327 [16:54] <Champ> esphyb-1.0.5
#2328 [16:54] <Kealper> it's their own homebrew ircd
#2329 [16:54] <Champ> cool
#2330 [16:54] <xales> esphyb is what its called
#2331 [16:54] <Kealper> they let you download it from their site O.o
#2332 [16:54] <xales> lol
#2333 [16:55] <xales> Kealper: so? all ircds are public, for the most part
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#2335 [16:55] <xales> all the big networks use open source ircds
#2336 [16:55] <Champ> I finally managed o get my ircd (unreal) working when I got my linux
#2337 [16:55] <Champ> i just need to host it now
#2338 [16:55] <Champ> crappy windows
#2339 [16:55] <Champ> impossible to set one up on it
#2340 [16:56] <Kealper> i had unreal running on my windows box for a while :S
#2341 [16:56] <xales> lololololol
#2342 [16:56] <xales> ircd on windows
#2343 [16:56] <xales> doesn't work
#2344 [16:56] <Champ> ya
#2345 [16:56] <Champ> lol
#2346 [16:56] <Champ> linux ftw
#2347 [16:56] <xales> http://esper.net/admin/servapp.txt
#2348 [16:56] <xales> look at the BIG text
#2349 [16:56] <xales> lol
#2350 [16:56] <Kealper> it worked fine, the other guy i was linked with was under shitbuntu server and that thing DCed all the time
#2351 [16:56] <Kealper> mine was the stable one -.-
#2352 [16:56] <Champ> ha
#2353 [16:57] <xales> Kealper: stable with 2 users
#2354 [16:57] <phantomcircuit> Servers running under any operating system by Microsoft will NOT be
#2355 [16:57] <xales> not several thousand
#2356 [16:57] <phantomcircuit> accepted.
#2357 [16:57] <phantomcircuit> lulz
#2358 [16:57] <Champ> lol
#2359 [16:57] <xales> windows cannot support that
#2360 [16:57] <xales> :\
#2361 [16:57] <xales> the tcpip stack on windows is shit
#2362 [16:57] <Kealper> well, it was more like 10-15 users, but yea....true
#2363 [16:57] <Champ> stoopid windoze
#2364 [16:57] <phantomcircuit> unreal works on windows
#2365 [16:57] <phantomcircuit> unfortunately it dies after like 5 users
#2366 [16:58] <Champ> exactly
#2367 [16:58] <Champ> hehe
#2368 [16:58] <xales> http://goo.gl/KStnv
#2369 [16:58] <Kealper> i've had about 200 or so "users" on my chat server that i made (for use with the accompanying client)
#2370 [16:58] <Kealper> meh...windows is good enough for what i need it for...lol
#2371 [16:59] <xales> lol
#2372 [16:59] <Wahrheit> Is hmod considered a mod? I mean I know it says mod but yeah
#2373 [16:59] <Kealper> yes, it is
#2374 [16:59] <Wahrheit> like an illegal discussion mod
#2375 [16:59] <Wahrheit> okay, thank you :)
#2376 [16:59] <Kealper> and mods are not illegal to discuss
#2377 [16:59] <xales> #hmod channel ro something
#2378 [16:59] <Wahrheit> I know
#2379 [16:59] <xales> maybe #hey0
#2380 [16:59] <Wahrheit> But I thought there was a rule against it
#2381 [17:00] <Wahrheit> It's #hey0 I'm there
#2382 [17:00] <xales> in #minecraft
#2383 [17:00] <xales> there is
#2384 [17:00] <Kealper> it's just 99% of the time, people that are dumber than a rock try to use them, and ask for help in here after failing
#2385 [17:00] <Wahrheit> aahahahahahaha
#2386 [17:00] <Wahrheit> Well I got it running okay
#2387 [17:00] <Champ> 1292 chanels on espernet
#2388 [17:00] <Champ> jesus
#2389 [17:00] <xales> Kealper, why arent you in #minecraft
#2390 [17:00] <Champ> :O
#2391 [17:00] <phantomcircuit> Kealper, let me correct myself a bit, unreal on windows can trivial handle thousands of normal users, but a single malicious user will trivially be able to crash the system
#2392 [17:00] <Wahrheit> I went to #hey0 and asked nicely and someone helped me :D
#2393 [17:00] <xales> Kealper: people who do that try to set up servers too and come here -_-
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#2395 [17:00] <phantomcircuit> Kealper, and there are always malicious users
#2396 [17:00] <Kealper> and i'm only in this channel atm because that's all i put in this thing's autojoin lol
#2397 [17:00] <xales> there needs to be big red text "RUNNING A SERVER IS COMPLICATED. YOU MUST HAVE SOME TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE TO DO THIS. KTHXBAI"
#2398 [17:00] <xavier> kealper
#2399 [17:01] <xales> lol Kealper
#2400 [17:01] <xavier> what happened kealpiie!@?!@?
#2401 [17:01] <Kealper> good god tons of highlights
#2402 [17:01] <Kealper> what happened what?
#2403 [17:01] <xales> Kealper: Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper
#2404 [17:01] <Champ> no no no, seperate lines
#2405 [17:01] <xavier> why are you voice
#2406 [17:01] <Champ> Kealper
#2407 [17:01] <Champ> lol
#2408 [17:01] <Champ> cuz he has to be opped
#2409 [17:01] <xavier> no moar op?
#2410 [17:01] <xales> Champ: flooding
#2411 [17:01] <xales> xavier: no autoop
#2412 [17:01] <Kealper> uhh..because the guy who can set it so i get op on join is away for a while
#2413 [17:01] <xales> he is newest op and nobody added him to auto op
#2414 [17:02] <xavier> :(
#2415 [17:02] <Kealper> he's already told me he will be back in about a week or so, so i can have him do it then
#2416 [17:02] <xales> doesn't really matter iguess
#2417 [17:02] <Wahrheit> it's not THAT complicated
#2418 [17:02] <xales> we don't ave too many issues here
#2419 [17:02] <xales> Wahrheit: if someone it guiding you through it, its not
#2420 [17:02] <Wahrheit> you read the instructions and have basic knowledge then you are ok
#2421 [17:02] <xales> but there have been numerous people
#2422 [17:02] <xales> who can't even RTFM
#2423 [17:02] <Wahrheit> I had some specific issues that I needed help with and so I asked
#2424 [17:02] <Wahrheit> and I got help
#2425 [17:02] <Wahrheit> ;)
#2426 [17:03] <Champ> there
#2427 [17:03] <Kealper> danke sehr
#2428 [17:03] * GreyVulpine stabs an @ onto Kealper's forehead
#2428 [17:03] <xales> Wahrheit: you also have some technical knowledge
#2429 [17:03] * Kealper owes
#2429 [17:03] <Wahrheit> xales: fair enough
#2430 [17:03] <Champ> AUWCHEEZ!
#2431 [17:03] <Wahrheit> Also you should know I don't have highlighting enabled for this server :p
#2432 [17:03] <xales> lol
#2433 [17:03] <Wahrheit> wait
#2434 [17:03] <Wahrheit> I should
#2435 [17:04] <Wahrheit> weird
#2436 [17:04] <xales> lol
#2437 [17:04] <xavier> kealper
#2438 [17:04] <xales> I have beep-on-highlight -_-
#2439 [17:04] <xavier> if i install win xp after mint
#2440 [17:04] <xavier> will it fuck up grub
#2441 [17:04] <Wahrheit> lol my music would prolly be too loud
#2442 [17:05] <Kealper> yes windows will kill grub with fire
#2443 [17:05] <xavier> :(
#2444 [17:05] <xales> you can just reinstall grub
#2445 [17:05] <xales> boot grub from a usb
#2446 [17:05] <xales> and reinstall
#2447 [17:05] <xales> xD
#2448 [17:05] <xavier> dis is getting too complicated
#2449 [17:05] <Kealper> and X can go rot in a hole...it's not letting me go to my monitor's max res >.>
#2450 [17:05] <Champ> hawt computer is hawt
#2451 [17:05] <xales> Kealper: driver
#2452 [17:06] <Kealper> there we go
#2453 [17:06] <Kealper> had to disable my second monitor for it to do that
#2454 [17:06] <xales> lol
#2455 [17:06] <Kealper> guess it just didn't like having two monitors on separate resolutions
#2456 [17:07] <Kealper> man... mint 10 is so great....it just comes with Sun JVM instead of OpenJDK by default
#2457 [17:08] <xavier> difference?
#2458 [17:08] <Kealper> the Sun one is supported by MC :P
#2459 [17:09] <Kealper> well....officially supported
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#2462 [17:14] <Champ> wooot ports forwarded FINALLY!!!
#2463 [17:14] <Kealper> grats lol
#2464 [17:15] <Kealper> oh xales, god of all that ends in nix, where is .minecraft stored in nix?
#2465 [17:15] <xales> ~/.minecraft
#2466 [17:15] <Kealper> oh...well then lol
#2467 [17:16] <xavier> you mean linux?
#2468 [17:16] <xavier> nix?
#2469 [17:16] <Kealper> lunix
#2470 [17:16] <xavier> linux*
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#2472 [17:16] <xavier> or unix*
#2473 [17:16] <Kealper> xavier: nix just means unix-based OSes
#2474 [17:17] <xavier> orly
#2475 [17:17] <xales> oyes
#2476 [17:19] <Kealper> Exception in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError :/
#2477 [17:19] <xales> lol
#2478 [17:20] <Kealper> man...me, minecraft, and fglrx just do not get along at all
#2479 [17:20] <Kealper> guess it's back to windows i go
#2480 [17:21] <Kealper> i don't feel like fighting with ati's drivers for a bit better jvm performance
#2481 [17:21] <xales> lol
#2482 [17:22] <Champ> is there anyway I can use my server world offline?
#2483 [17:23] <Champ> no seriously i dont know :p
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#2485 [17:25] <Kealper> ok that'll be the last time i restart my computer for another few weeks
#2486 [17:25] <Champ> [16:22:29] <Champ> is there anyway I can use my server world offline?
#2487 [17:25] <Champ> [16:23:33] <Champ> no seriously i dont know :p
#2488 [17:25] <Champ> can youz help?
#2489 [17:25] <Kealper> i've never tried it...but i don't see why you couldn't
#2490 [17:26] <Champ> just replace the .dat files I'm thinking but idk really
#2491 [17:26] <Kealper> just copy your server's world into your .minecraft/saves folder
#2492 [17:26] <Champ> ahh
#2493 [17:26] <Champ> ill try it fankx
#2494 [17:27] <Kealper> i guess i should throw my mc server back on my regular server now....instead of running it off my computer lol
#2495 [17:28] <xavier> is there any windows irc server
#2496 [17:28] <Kealper> all of them can be compiled to run on windows
#2497 [17:29] <xavier> I eman lije a help irc
#2498 [17:30] <xales> xavier: its dumb to run an irc server on windows
#2499 [17:30] <xales> the tcpip in windows is too inefficient
#2500 [17:30] <xales> I have never ever seen a network that had a windows server on it, for good reason
#2501 [17:30] <xavier> nooooooooo
#2502 [17:30] <xavier> u dont get it
#2503 [17:30] <xavier> a help channel
#2504 [17:30] <xavier> -_-
#2505 [17:30] <Kealper> oh
#2506 [17:30] <Kealper> a help channel dedicated to giving windows help?
#2507 [17:30] <xavier> yes
#2508 [17:30] <xavier> :d
#2509 [17:31] <Kealper> uhh..what did you need help with for windows? lol
#2510 [17:31] <xavier> the installation cd
#2511 [17:31] <xavier> i boot it but
#2512 [17:31] <Kealper> what version?
#2513 [17:31] <xavier> win 7 ultimate x64
#2514 [17:32] <Kealper> that should just be throw in dvd, and it'll be this nice windows gui installer
#2515 [17:32] <Kealper> is it ignoring the installation disc on startup?
#2516 [17:32] <xavier> no
#2517 [17:32] <xavier> i set my bios to hdd first
#2518 [17:32] <xavier> :d
#2519 [17:32] <xavier> io rpess f8
#2520 [17:32] <xavier> load it from cd
#2521 [17:32] <xavier> but
#2522 [17:32] <xavier> it loads files
#2523 [17:33] <xavier> i get a thingy background
#2524 [17:33] <xavier> and a mouse
#2525 [17:33] <xavier> but the installer wont popup
#2526 [17:33] <Kealper> how long did you let it sit there?
#2527 [17:33] <xavier> 5 mins
#2528 [17:34] <xavier> it worked under 10 secs on my mom's comp
#2529 [17:34] <xavier> ._.
#2530 [17:34] <Kealper> hmmm
#2531 [17:34] <Kealper> same disc?
#2532 [17:34] <xavier> ye
#2533 [17:34] <Kealper> weird....
#2534 [17:34] <xavier> im gonna retry
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#2537 [17:41] <xavier> kealpet got owned again
#2538 [17:41] <xavier> kealper*
#2539 [17:41] <xavier> and it didnt work
#2540 [17:41] <Kealper> oh, the joys of restarting lol
#2541 [17:41] <Kealper> O.o
#2542 [17:41] <Kealper> did the disc get corrupt?
#2543 [17:42] <xavier> idk
#2544 [17:42] <xavier> ima try using something else to burn
#2545 [17:42] <xavier> brasero sux
#2546 [17:42] <Kealper> also, i know one one of the computer builds i did, it took like 10 min for that window to come up to install it
#2547 [17:42] <xavier> oh
#2548 [17:42] <xavier> srsly?
#2549 [17:42] <Kealper> yea :S
#2550 [17:43] <xavier> theres the loading mouse
#2551 [17:43] <xavier> for bout 10 secs
#2552 [17:43] <Kealper> it ran fine once it installed, but installing it took ages
#2553 [17:43] <xavier> then it disappears
#2554 [17:43] <Kealper> yea, that one just sat there forever seemingly doing nothing aswell
#2555 [17:43] <Kealper> it might be the same case with yours
#2556 [17:43] <xavier> mk
#2557 [17:44] * xavier will restart comp and masturbate meanwhile
#2557 [17:44] <xavier> :)
#2558 [17:44] <Kealper> lul
#2559 [17:44] <Kealper> you'll go blind if you play with it like that >.>
#2560 [17:44] <xales> lol
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#2564 [18:14] <Kealper> oh my...Notch actually likes hMod
#2565 [18:14] <Kealper> "I don't know, we don't develop that here. We should talk to those guys, though, it's pretty awesome"
#2566 [18:17] <xales> where do you see that?
#2567 [18:17] <Kealper> his twitter as of ~30 min ago in response to someone asking if hMod works with the latest beta server yet
#2568 [18:17] <xales> lol, ah
#2569 [18:17] <xales> lol twitter is like super-caching me
#2570 [18:17] <xales> I don't see it
#2571 [18:18] <Kealper> lol
#2572 [18:18] <xales> logged in and now I do
#2573 [18:18] <Kealper> http://twitter.com/notch/status/18800361284304896
#2574 [18:20] * GreyVulpine stabs Kealper
#2574 [18:20] * Kealper owes
#2574 [18:21] <xales> kealper
#2575 [18:21] <Kealper> xales:
#2576 [18:21] <xales> you should op the bot so next time you do restart, you can then be not lazy enough to fix it :P
#2577 [18:22] <xales> whats this, the 4th time? :P
#2578 [18:22] <Kealper> meh..i don't foresee a restart in quite a while lol
#2579 [18:22] <Kealper> because i'd also have to ensure that it knew i was actually me
#2580 [18:22] <xales> llllazzzyyyy
#2581 [18:23] <xales> just use your explicit hostmask
#2582 [18:23] <xales> Kealper@c-67-177-131-104.hsd1.mi.comcast.net :P
#2583 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Unless Comcast goes and dies again
#2584 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Then Kealper's screwed
#2585 [18:23] <Kealper> i've had that same ip for over a year now lol
#2586 [18:24] <xales> dynamic ip fail
#2587 [18:24] <Kealper> ips around this side of michigan are more static than a datacenter -.-
#2588 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Bastards
#2589 [18:24] <Kealper> lol
#2590 [18:24] <xales> mine doesn't change unless I unplug the fiber box in the basement (not the router)
#2591 [18:24] <xales> :)
#2592 [18:25] <xales> but if i do that it changes every single time
#2593 [18:25] <xales> free ban evasion
#2594 [18:25] <Kealper> i dislike you because you said you have a fiber box in your basement
#2595 [18:25] <Kealper> lol
#2596 [18:25] <xales> lol
#2597 [18:25] <Kealper> fios? or real fiber? lol
#2598 [18:25] <xales> where I live its cheaper than cable :/
#2599 [18:25] <xales> fios. :(
#2600 [18:25] <Kealper> O.o
#2601 [18:25] <xales> I can't afford real fiber
#2602 [18:25] * xales is a student
#2602 [18:25] <Kealper> oh....close enough....what's your ping to like google and such? lol
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#2604 [18:26] <xales> Reply from 72.14.204.103: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=48
#2605 [18:26] <Xaviergmail> kealpy
#2606 [18:26] <Xaviergmail> :D:D
#2607 [18:26] * Kealper rages at cmd because i can't just highligh and copy a line
#2607 [18:26] <Xaviergmail> it took 6 mins to load
#2608 [18:26] <Xaviergmail> kealper
#2609 [18:26] <Xaviergmail> you can
#2610 [18:26] <xales> Kealper: you can
#2611 [18:26] <Xaviergmail> right click
#2612 [18:26] <Xaviergmail> click mark
#2613 [18:27] <Xaviergmail> then press enter
#2614 [18:27] <xales> then enter to copy it
#2615 [18:27] <xales> :D
#2616 [18:27] <xales> also, this is my server
#2617 [18:27] <xales> 64 bytes from 74.125.226.147: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=1.89 ms
#2618 [18:27] <Xaviergmail> god
#2619 [18:27] <Kealper> yea yea...but i mean i can't just highlight with cursor and paste
#2620 [18:27] <Xaviergmail> I missed windows
#2621 [18:27] <xales> Kealper: mark will let you use cursor
#2622 [18:27] <Xaviergmail> :d
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#2624 [18:27] <Xaviergmail> linux was great
#2625 [18:27] <Xaviergmail> but
#2626 [18:27] <Kealper> yea yea but i have to select mark....lol
#2627 [18:27] <Xaviergmail> not as good as w7
#2628 [18:27] <xales> Kealper: :(
#2629 [18:28] <Kealper> i can't just quickly highligh...is what i'm saying
#2630 [18:28] <Xaviergmail> now
#2631 [18:28] <Xaviergmail> gf minecaft savefiles
#2632 [18:28] <Xaviergmail> :D
#2633 [18:28] <Kealper> Reply from 209.85.225.106: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=51
#2634 [18:28] <Kealper> anywho
#2635 [18:28] <Kealper> y'all are a distracting bunch lol
#2636 [18:29] <Kealper> AWWWWW YEAAAAHH http://ishmodupdated.com/
#2637 [18:30] <Xaviergmail> I wish that the savefiles were on minecraft'er
#2638 [18:30] <Xaviergmail> so u can access ur acc frpo, wherever you want
#2639 [18:30] <Xaviergmail> ya kno
#2640 [18:30] <Kealper> that would make everything so impossibly slow lol
#2641 [18:30] <Xaviergmail> :/
#2642 [18:30] <Xaviergmail> rs does it
#2643 [18:30] <Xaviergmail> =o
#2644 [18:30] <Kealper> yea but it doesn't need 4k folders and 7k files for a small savegame
#2645 [18:32] * Kealper redownloads all the plugins on his server and sets up hMod again
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#2646 [18:35] <xales> Xaviergmail: dropbox
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#2648 [18:37] <Kealper> omg someone actually made a plugin called Herobrine...and it acts just like the myth
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#2650 [18:38] <linuslind> skit
#2651 [18:38] <Xaviergmail> skeet skeet
#2652 [18:38] <Xaviergmail> and
#2653 [18:38] <Xaviergmail> i need a credit card :(
#2654 [18:39] <linuslind> hehe :P
#2655 [18:43] <xales> one think I never understood
#2656 [18:43] <xales> is why ircd lets you have voice AND op at the same time
#2657 [18:43] <Kealper> why not? lol
#2658 [18:44] <xales> what purpose would it serve
#2659 [18:44] <xales> lol
#2660 [18:44] <feenyx> pretty much only because they're different flags, and someone couldn't be bothered making a dependancy check
#2661 [18:44] <feenyx> programmers do weird things
#2662 [18:44] * xales is a programmer
#2662 [18:44] <xales> :\
#2663 [18:44] <Kealper> but omg this Herobrine plugin looks awesome...
#2664 [18:44] <feenyx> don't you ever do weird things?
#2665 [18:44] <xales> tis 1 line to check something like that, lol
#2666 [18:44] <xales> feenyx: indeed
#2667 [18:45] <feenyx> ^^
#2668 [18:45] <Kealper> lol
#2669 [18:45] <xales> especially with the many 1000s of people who have contributed to ircd over the years
#2670 [18:45] <xales> anyway
#2671 [18:45] <xales> I occasionally act like an idiot, so I don't get smacked with some dumb responsibility in the community
#2672 [18:45] <xales> :)
#2673 [18:45] <feenyx> clever move
#2674 [18:45] <xales> like Miclee, who they just opped in #minecraft with no warning
#2675 [18:46] <Kealper> lol
#2676 [18:46] <feenyx> I stopped idling in that channel
#2677 [18:46] <xales> lol
#2678 [18:46] <feenyx> far too many random discussions for me to still be productive at work
#2679 [18:57] <linuslind> 4 h
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#2681 [18:58] <Xaviergmail> ok
#2682 [18:58] <Xaviergmail> now i have to get an antivirus
#2683 [18:58] <Xaviergmail> -_-
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#2685 [18:58] <Kealper> http://freeav.com
#2686 [18:59] <Xaviergmail> Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage
#2687 [18:59] <Xaviergmail> updating mai ipod to 4.2.1 :D
#2688 [18:59] <Kealper> there's your problem...IE
#2689 [18:59] <Xaviergmail> dude
#2690 [18:59] <Xaviergmail> i just installed w7
#2691 [18:59] <Xaviergmail> calm down
#2692 [18:59] <Xaviergmail> <3
#2693 [18:59] * Xaviergmail waddles away to get chrome
#2693 [18:59] <Kealper> first thing i did after installing 7 was go to http://nightly.mozilla.org and got that
#2694 [19:00] <Xaviergmail> difference with nightly?
#2695 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2696 [19:00] <Xaviergmail> or w/e
#2697 [19:00] <Kealper> nightly firefox builds
#2698 [19:00] <Kealper> that one is Firefox 4.0
#2699 [19:00] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper with a test
#2699 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> wait
#2700 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> what
#2701 [19:01] <Kealper> lol
#2702 [19:01] * GreyVulpine stabs own script
#2702 [19:01] <Xaviergmail> gg
#2703 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#2704 [19:02] <Xaviergmail> can i haz voice 2?
#2705 [19:02] <Xaviergmail> O_o
#2706 [19:02] <Kealper> oh..i know what you're doing...lol
#2707 [19:02] <Xaviergmail> wtf
#2708 [19:02] <Xaviergmail> opvoice :O
#2709 [19:02] <Kealper> testing out an aop script on mirc? lol
#2710 [19:03] <feenyx> why hasn't anyone setup a bot here yet? Or do you just use chanserv on esper?
#2711 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> I haven't done scripting for mIRC in way too many years
#2712 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Don't remember the syntax.
#2713 [19:03] <Xaviergmail> AuBot
#2714 [19:03] <Xaviergmail> l2read
#2715 [19:03] <Kealper> chanserv on esper
#2716 [19:03] <Kealper> but the channel owner or channel superops are not here
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#2718 [19:05] <Vesemir> Can i ask about Mo' Creature Mod?
#2719 [19:05] <Vesemir> :D
#2720 [19:05] <Kealper> you could, but i would not give an answer
#2721 [19:05] <Kealper> as i've never used it
#2722 [19:05] <Vesemir> ...
#2723 [19:05] <Vesemir> Anyone?
#2724 [19:05] <Kealper> #hey0 knows
#2725 [19:05] <Vesemir> Problem is i dont have horses
#2726 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, guess that worked.
#2727 [19:06] <Kealper> uhh....horses?
#2728 [19:06] <Vesemir> yes
#2729 [19:06] <Vesemir> i have boars,ducks,lions
#2730 [19:06] * Kealper doesn't follow mods
#2730 [19:06] <Kealper> only the few plugins i use on my server :S
#2731 [19:06] <Vesemir> ok ok
#2732 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> As far as I know, a bunch of plugins don't work for the latest hmod
#2733 [19:07] <Kealper> speaking of which...grey...hMod is out for the latest thing
#2734 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> including cuboid and others
#2735 [19:07] <Kealper> cuboid was just updated, i;m getting em now
#2736 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> I know, I follow #hey0 as well
#2737 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Oh, neat
#2738 [19:07] <Kealper> both MM and cuboid work for 132
#2739 [19:07] <Vesemir> Is there any modders IRC?
#2740 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> #hey0
#2741 [19:07] <xales> #hey0
#2742 [19:07] <Vesemir> ok
#2743 [19:07] <Kealper> lol
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#2745 [19:07] <Vesemir> on esprnet?
#2746 [19:07] <xales> yes
#2747 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2748 [19:08] <Kealper> yes
#2749 [19:08] <Vesemir> lol
#2750 [19:08] <Vesemir> :P
#2751 [19:08] <xales> >.>
#2752 [19:08] <Kealper> me and my slow typing
#2753 [19:08] <xales> lol
#2754 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> if ( $vnick == Kealper && *!*@*.hsd1.mi.comcast.net iswm $fulladdress ) .mode #minecrafthelp +o Kealper
#2755 [19:08] * GreyVulpine nods sagely
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#2756 [19:09] * Kealper nods confuesedly
#2756 [19:09] <xales> lol
#2757 [19:09] <gunther> Hi everyone
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#2759 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> If you are the nick that is voiced, and you're using mich comcast, my client should auto-op you
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#2761 [19:09] <Sengoku> hey
#2762 [19:09] <xales> hello Sengoku
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#2765 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Or not
#2766 [19:09] <Sengoku> I'm getting some shiz aoubt needing to login when i host a private server
#2767 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Sengoku - Sure you're doing a beta server, and not classic?
#2768 [19:10] <xales> Sengoku: for beta or classic?
#2769 [19:10] <xales> GreyVulpine: damn you win again :/
#2770 [19:10] <Kealper> make it listen for chanserv voicing me, and have it remove voice and add op
#2771 [19:10] <gunther> I'm getting a very interesting problem. I'm not sure why.. I keep getting "Fatal Error Occurred (4): failed to download windows_natives.jar.lzma"
#2772 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> mIRC doesn't do that
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#2774 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> it only has a trigger for on:Voice:
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#2776 [19:10] <xales> GreyVulpine: if you want me to replace kealper with myself on the autoop script on my bot, let me know
#2777 [19:10] <Kealper> might this be a job for aubot then?
#2778 [19:10] <xales> err, myself with kealper
#2779 [19:10] <xales> lulz
#2780 [19:10] <gunther> I've tried googling and troubleshooting, to no success. Has anyone have the issue?
#2781 [19:10] <xales> Kealper: I suggested that :P
#2782 [19:11] <Sengoku> GreyVulpine: true, i got the jar from here... sec
#2783 [19:11] <xales> gunther: turn off antivirus or firewall and try again
#2784 [19:11] <gunther> I've tried that too :x
#2785 [19:11] <gunther> Perhaps I should download from Safari or Explorer?
#2786 [19:11] <xales> try downloading it again; which browser you use shouldn't matter
#2787 [19:12] <Kealper> meh....it's up to grey if he wants me to make aubot do that
#2788 [19:12] <gunther> I've tried 4 times :x
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#2790 [19:12] <Sengoku> GreyVulpine: i don't remmeber where i got that jar. Could you pointme to the correct one?
#2791 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> !client
#2792 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> wait no
#2793 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> server
#2794 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> !server
#2795 [19:12] <xalesbot> I'm here too and I do auto-opping, and xales isn't on the autoop list right now
#2796 [19:12] <xales> :P
#2797 [19:12] <Kealper> lol
#2798 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I need more caffeine. brb
#2799 [19:13] <xales> tis chanserv protected anyway, not like I could do anything bad with ops if i wanted to
#2800 [19:13] <gunther> You're right, different browsers didnt help.
#2801 [19:13] <Kealper> i need more chili...brb aswell
#2802 [19:13] <xales> gunther: it sounds like a firewall/antivirus because windows_natives is what has the stuff that they would be blocking
#2803 [19:14] <Sengoku> GreyVulpine: thanks! I think this is the version that gave me BSOD when a client connected
#2804 [19:14] <gunther> Well, I have a D-Link antivirus thing on, but I've turned that off, and that didnt help.
#2805 [19:14] <gunther> Im not sure what firewall I have
#2806 [19:14] <xales> D link? O_o they make networking hardware right?
#2807 [19:14] <xales> why would they make a firewall...wth...anyway
#2808 [19:14] <xales> yeah, check for firewall
#2809 [19:15] <gunther> They do, but its equipped with an irremovable anti-virus.
#2810 [19:15] <gunther> Okay, Temporarily off
#2811 [19:15] <Sengoku> Anyone else getting BSOD when they host a server?
#2812 [19:16] <xales> Sengoku: no
#2813 [19:16] <Sengoku> bah, i'm guessing you're not even on windows
#2814 [19:16] <xales> client isnt
#2815 [19:16] <gunther> Alright, I turned off Windows Firewall and nothing happened ><
#2816 [19:16] <xales> ssh client is
#2817 [19:16] <Sengoku> bah
#2818 [19:16] <xales> gunther: any other firewalls or antivirus or something like that?
#2819 [19:17] <gunther> Well, my control panel is telling me some "windows defender"?
#2820 [19:17] <gunther> Think that would effect it?
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#2822 [19:18] <xales> yeah
#2823 [19:18] <xales> turn that off too
#2824 [19:18] <xales> Kealper: back?
#2825 [19:18] <Sengoku> is there an error log i can paste you guys
#2826 [19:18] * Kealper has retured with more chili
#2826 [19:18] <xales> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com
#2827 [19:18] <Sengoku> BSOD immediately whenever a client connects
#2828 [19:18] * GreyVulpine steals Kealper's chili
#2828 [19:18] <Kealper> xales you psychic
#2829 [19:18] <gunther> I think you can't turn off defender, its just a virus scan apparently
#2830 [19:18] <xales> Kealper: can you say .whoami for me? I want to test something
#2831 [19:18] <Kealper> :O
#2832 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> You DID bring enough for all of us, RIGHT?
#2833 [19:18] <Kealper> .whoami
#2834 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#2835 [19:19] <xales> fml
#2836 [19:19] <Kealper> i've got a ton of it O.o
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#2838 [19:19] <Kealper> my bro is over in Niles right now, but he doesn't have any with him :P
#2839 [19:19] <Kealper> my mom's home made chili... <3
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#2842 [19:21] <xales> Kealper: try again, im debugging my POS
#2843 [19:21] <Kealper> .whoami
#2844 [19:21] <xales> ._.
#2845 [19:21] <xales> .listadmins
#2846 [19:21] <xalesbot> "Xales" - %S+!xales@darksigns.net - +zo
#2847 [19:21] <xalesbot> "Kealper" - %S+!Kealper@c-67-177-131-104%.hsd1%.mi%.comcast%.net - +oa
#2848 [19:22] <Kealper> hmm...it'd be awesome if it resolved my hostname to kealper.com instead of the comcast one
#2849 [19:22] <xales> lol
#2850 [19:22] <xales> comcast would never let you
#2851 [19:23] <xales> Kealper: one more time? xD
#2852 [19:23] <Kealper> .whoami
#2853 [19:23] <xales> .testmatch Kealper!Kealper@c-67-177-131-104.hsd1.mi.comcast.net "%S+!Kealper@c-67-177-131-104%.hsd1%.mi%.comcast%.net
#2854 [19:23] <xales> .testmatch Kealper!Kealper@c-67-177-131-104.hsd1.mi.comcast.net %S+!Kealper@c-67-177-131-104%.hsd1%.mi%.comcast%.net
#2855 [19:23] <BornofOsiris> my friend keeps getting kicked from my server every minute or so and i get "lost connection: disconnect.genericReason" everytime does anyone know what i could do?
#2856 [19:24] <Kealper> no idea...not sure what the genericReason actually means :S
#2857 [19:25] <Coll> I get generic reason when I quit minecraft using the X in the top right
#2858 [19:25] <xales> Kealper: one last time
#2859 [19:25] <xales> ;)
#2860 [19:25] <Kealper> .whoami
#2861 [19:26] <BornofOsiris> oh alright well thanks :P
#2862 [19:26] <xales> im fairly certain i fixed it now
#2863 [19:27] <xales> aparrantly both - and . are character classes unless I escape them
#2864 [19:27] <xales> which is just stupid
#2865 [19:27] <Kealper> regex ftl
#2866 [19:27] <xales> indeed
#2867 [19:27] <xales> one more try, for the lulz?
#2868 [19:27] <Kealper> autoit can do regex, but i keep away from it like it was the plauge
#2869 [19:27] * xales should implement whois command
#2869 [19:27] <Kealper> plague*
#2870 [19:27] <Kealper> .whoami
#2871 [19:27] <xalesbot> You are "Kealper" with flags +oa
#2872 [19:27] <xales> there we go
#2873 [19:28] <xales> ty :D
#2874 [19:28] <Kealper> lol
#2875 [19:28] <xales> it only took me
#2876 [19:29] <xales> 5 lines of random debugging things to make it work
#2877 [19:29] <xales> .reload
#2878 [19:29] <xalesbot> Reloaded scripts
#2879 [19:29] <xales> anyway
#2880 [19:29] <xales> about the only useful thing it does, other than assiting at channel management (basically a lame chanserv)
#2881 [19:30] <xales> .say #minecrafthelp O_o
#2882 [19:30] <xalesbot> O_o
#2883 [19:30] <clone1018> .say #minecraft clone1018 Rocks!
#2884 [19:30] <clone1018> D:
#2885 [19:30] <Kealper> yea, mine was performing chanserv functions in the irc network that i was on last
#2886 [19:30] <xales> .reload
#2887 [19:30] <xalesbot> Reloaded scripts
#2888 [19:30] <xales> stupid thing has a response to almost every command
#2889 [19:31] <xales> i need to turn some of those off
#2890 [19:31] <Kealper> people could request it to their channel, and it could manage channel automodes and such
#2891 [19:31] <xales> when I take it out of debug mode
#2892 [19:31] <Kealper> lol
#2893 [19:31] <xales> also I hate the . as the command character
#2894 [19:31] <xales> makes it look like an eggdrop
#2895 [19:31] <xales> D:<
#2896 [19:32] <Kealper> that module "mod_bot" actually uses . as auth user commands aswell lol
#2897 [19:32] <Kealper> for mine
#2898 [19:32] <clone1018> I dont
#2899 [19:32] <clone1018> ! sucks
#2900 [19:32] <Kealper> hell, there is even a telnet module, so you can telnet into it
#2901 [19:33] <xales> lol
#2902 [19:33] <xales> my bot has unified commands
#2903 [19:33] <xales> in any channel, prefixed with a .
#2904 [19:33] <xales> in a dcc chat or privmsg, with no prefix
#2905 [19:33] <xales> thats why I have to specify a channel for most commands
#2906 [19:33] <xales> im too lazy for it to autodetect channel
#2907 [19:34] <Kealper> a fun way to tell if i have an aubot on a network..
#2908 [19:35] <Kealper> #aubotdevchan lol
#2909 [19:35] <xales> lol
#2910 [19:36] <Kealper> it behaves much like an eggbot...mostly because as i was making it, i was trying to one-up an eggbot that someone else who thought autoit was a useless language that could never do anything right...
#2911 [19:36] <Kealper> was running*
#2912 [19:36] <xales> lol
#2913 [19:38] <Kealper> anywho
#2914 [19:38] <Kealper> i'm going to see if i'm a total ninja...and make it so aubot will aop me....but i'm going to try and get it perfect on the first run
#2915 [19:39] <xales> good luck
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#2917 [19:41] <xales> Kealper: if you want me to look it over so I can inform you of anything that will prevent your first try from working, pastebin it
#2918 [19:42] <Kealper> bah lol
#2919 [19:42] <xales> thats kinda cheating I guess though
#2920 [19:42] <Kealper> before i start though, i've got to update the mchelp module to only work in #MineCraftHelp
#2921 [19:43] <xales> lol
#2922 [19:43] <xales> if channel="#mchelp" then return endif
#2923 [19:43] <Kealper> If StringReplace($sTemp[3], ":", "") <> "#MinecraftHelp" Then ContinueLoop
#2924 [19:43] <xales> not quite right then
#2925 [19:44] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2926 [19:44] <Kealper> !payment
#2927 [19:44] <Kealper> works
#2928 [19:44] <xales> try in a non-mchelp channel
#2929 [19:44] <xales> :P
#2930 [19:45] <Kealper> i did lol
#2931 [19:45] <xales> ah
#2932 [19:45] <xales> ok
#2933 [19:45] <Kealper> time to get working on that other module
#2934 [19:45] <xales> !reload mod_fuaudshffdoesntexist
#2935 [19:45] <xales> lol
#2936 [19:45] <Kealper> lol
#2937 [19:45] * xales was poking for a crash
#2937 [19:46] <Kealper> !load omgthisdoesnotexist
#2938 [19:46] <Kealper> [19:46:06] -AuBot- An error occured while attempting to load module "omgthisdoesnotexist"
#2939 [19:46] <xales> !unload mod_mchelp
#2940 [19:46] <xales> !count
#2941 [19:46] <Kealper> i should take those two commands out but i'm lazy
#2942 [19:46] <Kealper> !uptime
#2943 [19:46] <nipper> WindowsVista Uptime: 1wk 1hr 55mins 38secs Best: 3wks 3days 5hrs 1min 3secs
#2944 [19:46] <Sun7zu> WindowsVista Uptime: 1day 6hrs 47mins 21secs Best: 1wk 6days 3hrs 37mins
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#2946 [19:46] <Kealper> LUL
#2947 [19:47] <xales> lol
#2948 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> lol
#2949 [19:47] <xales> wait what
#2950 [19:47] <xales> !uptime
#2951 [19:47] <nipper> WindowsVista Uptime: 1wk 1hr 56mins 8secs Best: 3wks 3days 5hrs 1min 3secs
#2952 [19:47] <Sun7zu> WindowsVista Uptime: 1day 6hrs 47mins 51secs Best: 1wk 6days 3hrs 37mins
#2953 [19:47] <xales> hahahaha
#2954 [19:47] <Kealper> it's a mirc script :S
#2955 [19:47] <xales> lolol
#2956 [19:48] <xales> thats a pussy uptime anyway >.>
#2957 [19:48] <Kealper> and drat....!uptime was part of mod_bot and not the core
#2958 [19:48] <xales> 19:48:07 up 131 days, 35 min, 3 users, load average: 0.03, 0.02, 0.00
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#2960 [19:48] <xales> wow, i wonder what is using 3% cpu
#2961 [19:48] * Kealper checks his real server's uptime
#2961 [19:49] * Kealper lost his ssh client
#2961 [19:49] <xales> oh I bet its because im logging stuff
#2962 [19:49] <xales> Kealper: lol, ssh+windows? what
#2963 [19:49] <Kealper> nvm, found it again
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#2965 [19:50] <Kealper> 20:48:21 up 362 days, 18:48, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.05, 0.01
#2966 [19:50] <Kealper> am i doin it right?
#2967 [19:50] <xales> yeah
#2968 [19:50] <xales> lol
#2969 [19:50] <xales> what do you need 2 servers for? lol
#2970 [19:50] <xales> windows&linux
#2971 [19:51] <Kealper> one is a dedi sitting in a datacenter, the other is my personal windows server that runs at my house
#2972 [19:51] <xales> also...if that server is kealper.com, there is an easy way to make it resolve your hostmask as kealper.com
#2973 [19:51] <Kealper> i'm 90% sure i'm not supposed to do irc connections from it
#2974 [19:52] <Kealper> if i knew i could, i'd have irssi on that in a heartbeat lol
#2975 [19:52] <xales> lol, if its a dedicated server
#2976 [19:52] <xales> why not
#2977 [19:52] <Dvonio> Any veterinary here?
#2978 [19:52] <xales> its probably incoming connections
#2979 [19:52] <xales> Kealper: whats the host? ill look for you
#2980 [19:53] <xales> Kealper: also, http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
#2981 [19:53] <Kealper> uhh...lemme check lol
#2982 [19:54] <xales> you don't know what the name of the host is?
#2983 [19:54] <xales> /confused
#2984 [19:54] <Kealper> no, because i don't pay the bills on it
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#2986 [19:55] <Kealper> my bro does the bill paying, but i've got root access to it, and can do whatever i want within legal boundries to it
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#2988 [19:55] <xales> oh
#2989 [19:55] <xales> lol
#2990 [19:55] <xales> that article is a great guide
#2991 [19:55] <xales> if you havent used irssi in screen before
#2992 [19:55] <xales> with is the de facto way to use it
#2993 [19:55] <Kealper> yea, i used to do that
#2994 [19:56] <xales> ah
#2995 [19:56] <Kealper> when my home server ran linux it sat there with irssi on screen and i'd ssh to it to get on irc
#2996 [19:57] <Kealper> port 6667 is totally blocked...stupid paranoid datacenter
#2997 [19:57] <xales> inbound?
#2998 [19:57] <xales> or just outbound
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#3000 [19:57] <Kealper> both ways
#3001 [19:57] <xales> :(
#3002 [19:57] <xales> thats fucking stupid
#3003 [19:57] <Kealper> indeed
#3004 [19:57] <xales> why not get a $7 vps for it then? lol
#3005 [19:58] <Kealper> afaik it's the only think that's blocked..probably because malware commonly use irc to get instructions :S
#3006 [19:58] <xales> nah
#3007 [19:58] <xales> they dont want DDoS
#3008 [19:58] <xales> irc = ddos
#3009 [19:58] <Kealper> well yea but one single client connection blocked aswell? lol
#3010 [19:58] <xales> well
#3011 [19:58] * Kealper has an idea, but is too lazy to do it right now
#3011 [19:58] <xales> overprotectice
#3012 [19:58] <xales> ve*
#3013 [19:58] <xales> also
#3014 [19:58] <xales> you can use irc on other ports
#3015 [19:58] <xales> lol
#3016 [19:58] <Kealper> esper has ssh
#3017 [19:59] <xales> * 5555
#3018 [19:59] <xales> * 6666-6669
#3019 [19:59] <xales> * 7000
#3020 [19:59] <xales> * 6697 (SSL)
#3021 [19:59] <Kealper> ssh....ssl
#3022 [19:59] <xales> all esper servers listen on those ports
#3023 [19:59] <xales> :)
#3024 [19:59] <xales> use 6666
#3025 [19:59] <xales> lol
#3026 [19:59] <Kealper> lol
#3027 [19:59] <xales> FUCK YOUUUUU DATACENTER
#3028 [20:01] <xales> lol
#3029 [20:01] <xales> anyway
#3030 [20:01] <Kealper> so that was super distracting....
#3031 [20:01] * Kealper goes back to starting to work on this
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#3032 [20:01] <xales> hahaha
#3033 [20:01] <xales> I totally forgot you were working on that
#3034 [20:01] <Kealper> i totally forgot i was too! lol
#3035 [20:01] <Kealper> didn't even create the file yet lol
#3036 [20:02] <HezaaMonster> #mcserver
#3037 [20:02] <Kealper> type /join #mcserver
#3038 [20:02] <HezaaMonster> oooooohhhh that makes more sense. xD thanks
#3039 [20:02] <Kealper> xD
#3040 [20:02] <HezaaMonster> xD sorry I'm such a noob
#3041 [20:02] <Kealper> it's alright :P
#3042 [20:03] * Kealper throws on some codin' music
#3042 [20:03] <HezaaMonster> .__. mmkay so I went there.... and there's no one there, I guess?
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#3044 [20:05] <Kealper> what'd ya need help with th.........
#3045 [20:05] <Kealper> ......
#3046 [20:06] * GreyVulpine snickers.
#3046 [20:06] <Kealper> and disregard this...i need to capture a packet...
#3047 [20:06] <Kealper> !load mod_op
#3048 [20:06] <Kealper> !unload mod_op
#3049 [20:07] <Kealper> wow
#3050 [20:07] <Kealper> that was easy
#3051 [20:07] <Kealper> :Kealper!Kealper@c-67-177-131-104.hsd1.mi.comcast.net MODE #MineCraftHelp -v Kealper
#3052 [20:08] <xales> lol
#3053 [20:10] <Kealper> i think it's done...lol
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#3055 [20:10] <xales> lol
#3056 [20:10] <Kealper> watch this probably fail so hard and +o the channel or something
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#3058 [20:11] <Kealper> !load mod_op
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#3061 [20:11] <Kealper> shit
#3062 [20:11] * GreyVulpine snickers
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#3063 [20:11] <Kealper> ok so i can't do that in one packet, but it worked!
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#3065 [20:12] <HezaaMonster> ~___~ I need help... I'm not sure where to go for it anymore.
#3066 [20:12] <Kealper> help with?
#3067 [20:12] <Kealper> !reload mod_op
#3068 [20:12] <HezaaMonster> My server.
#3069 [20:12] <Kealper> alright....i split that up into two packets, this should work
#3070 [20:12] <xales> whats the problem?
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#3073 [20:13] <xales> haha
#3074 [20:13] <Kealper> i think your script ninja'd my bot lol
#3075 [20:13] <HezaaMonster> I got it working and all, I guess. My friend can get on it. But it won't load for me.
#3076 [20:13] * GreyVulpine snickers
#3076 [20:13] <HezaaMonster> And I get that overload message thing.
#3077 [20:13] <Kealper> it's supposed to devoice me and op me..lol
#3078 [20:13] <HezaaMonster> It says something about minecraft not being able to keep up.
#3079 [20:13] <Kealper> ignore it, it's normal
#3080 [20:13] <Kealper> but
#3081 [20:13] <Kealper> for the first part...
#3082 [20:13] <HezaaMonster> Mmmkay.
#3083 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Alright, try it again
#3084 [20:14] <Kealper> what part wont load?
#3085 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> At least I know my script works now
#3086 [20:14] <fork> cool
#3087 [20:14] <fork> i got a crock pot for xmas
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#3090 [20:14] <Kealper> awwww yeaaahh
#3091 [20:14] <HezaaMonster> It goes through the "logging in" screen. But then it just stays on that brown dirt-type screen thing. And it won't load to the actual game. And when it does load, it lags like... super bad.
#3092 [20:15] <HezaaMonster> I don't know if it has something to do with my computer?
#3093 [20:15] <Kealper> are you hosting your server and playing the game on the same computer?
#3094 [20:15] <HezaaMonster> Or maybe I did something wrong when I was customizing the server and everything.
#3095 [20:15] <HezaaMonster> Yeah
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#3097 [20:15] <Kealper> are you sure your computer can handle that?
#3098 [20:15] <xales> HezaaMonster: your computer probably isn't powerful enough to run minecraft twice
#3099 [20:16] <HezaaMonster> Yeah... that's what I was thinking. Is there anything I can do to help it? Or is it just not possible for me to be able to do it?
#3100 [20:16] <HezaaMonster> With my computer?
#3101 [20:16] <Kealper> depends
#3102 [20:16] <Coll> sigh
#3103 [20:16] <HezaaMonster> on?
#3104 [20:16] <Kealper> if the bottleneck is ram, yes, to an extent it's fixable...if it's cpu, then no
#3105 [20:17] <Coll> cpus can sometimes be replaced
#3106 [20:17] <xales> Kealper: not easily
#3107 [20:17] <HezaaMonster> ~__~ I'm not sure what you're talking about... I'm not really... computer smart. Not with this stuff.
#3108 [20:17] <Coll> also anyone good with routers here?
#3109 [20:17] <Henry> hi all. i have a problem with the server version. we are 2 people in wifi at home connecting to a linux server running minecraft and it works fine with one of us connected but then when 2nd player connects it all goes wrong
#3110 [20:17] <Kealper> lemme rephrase: not fixable without doing hardware upgrades
#3111 [20:17] <xales> Henry: what error (if any) do you get
#3112 [20:17] <Henry> time outs
#3113 [20:18] <Kealper> with ram i just meant he can make the server allocate less ram
#3114 [20:18] <Henry> is there a known issue with players using same IP connecting to same server?
#3115 [20:19] <Kealper> no, the game and the server are just very resource-heavy
#3116 [20:19] <Henry> server is a 4GB RAM CentOS 5 dual-core
#3117 [20:19] <Kealper> and it's also what you play minecraft on aswell?
#3118 [20:19] <Henry> no. we are on laptops
#3119 [20:20] <Henry> server is dedicated in datacenter
#3120 [20:20] <Kealper> uhh...can your laptop handle minecraft? lol
#3121 [20:20] <Henry> yes the laptops are dual-core 3GB
#3122 [20:20] <Henry> yes the laptops are dual-core 3GB RAM
#3123 [20:21] <Kealper> hmm...... try connecting to mc.kealper.com with minecraft...see if it lags on there or if it runs fine
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#3125 [20:21] <Henry> any settings that might help? i have disabled pvp and monsters
#3126 [20:21] <Henry> ok
#3127 [20:21] <NateTheGreat> Anyone know anything about audio drivers/codecs/cards/the works?
#3128 [20:22] <xales> depends
#3129 [20:22] <NateTheGreat> lol
#3130 [20:22] <xales> on what specifically you are wanting help with
#3131 [20:22] <NateTheGreat> Bought a new pair of USB studio monitors
#3132 [20:22] <NateTheGreat> left speaker drops about 10dbs after a few minutes of play/idling
#3133 [20:22] <NateTheGreat> very random and very frusterating :c
#3134 [20:23] <NateTheGreat> I've tried to troubleshoot it every way I know
#3135 [20:23] <xales> its possible its the device
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#3137 [20:23] <xales> try it with something else (an mp3 player or phone with headphone jack will work fine)
#3138 [20:23] <NateTheGreat> Yeah, I think it is.
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#3140 [20:24] <Coll> anyone want to try my router problem
#3141 [20:24] <xales> what is the problem?
#3142 [20:24] <NateTheGreat> sucks because this will be the second time i'll be sending them back because they're defective
#3143 [20:25] <NateTheGreat> Sure, shoot
#3144 [20:25] <xales> NateTheGreat: :(
#3145 [20:25] <Coll> Well got a new router for christmas
#3146 [20:25] <Coll> connect it up
#3147 [20:25] <Coll> and it doesnt load anything
#3148 [20:25] <Coll> maybe a webpage an hour
#3149 [20:25] <Coll> it isnt the modem
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#3151 [20:26] <Coll> and the belkin tech support are morons
#3152 [20:26] <Sargek99> hello all
#3153 [20:26] <Coll> anyways I can get to the router page fast and easy
#3154 [20:26] <Sargek99> is there something wrong with the peaceful setting? Cause I am still getting monster spawns
#3155 [20:26] <NateTheGreat> That sounds odd, Coll
#3156 [20:27] <Coll> yeah I dont know what to do
#3157 [20:27] <NateTheGreat> have you tried hard resetting the router?
#3158 [20:27] <Coll> yes
#3159 [20:27] <Coll> still doesnt work
#3160 [20:27] <Coll> upgraded the firmware on it
#3161 [20:27] <Coll> no go
#3162 [20:27] <NateTheGreat> go into your wireless devices browser
#3163 [20:28] <Coll> uh huh
#3164 [20:28] <xales> hello Sargek99
#3165 [20:28] <NateTheGreat> right click the wireless device and hit status
#3166 [20:28] <Coll> ok
#3167 [20:28] <NateTheGreat> how many bytes/packets are you sending/recieving?
#3168 [20:28] <Coll> uh
#3169 [20:28] <Sargek99> Heya Xales
#3170 [20:29] <NateTheGreat> lol
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#3172 [20:29] <Coll> ugh
#3173 [20:30] <Sargek99> Any clues to my issues Xales?
#3174 [20:30] <Sargek99> fresh world fresh download of the game
#3175 [20:30] <xales> what was the issue again? I didn't see you ask
#3176 [20:30] <NateTheGreat> Are you connected to the router now, Coll?
#3177 [20:30] <Sargek99> I have my own server
#3178 [20:30] <Coll> I am not
#3179 [20:30] <Coll> I am using a older model belkin
#3180 [20:30] <Coll> which works perfectly
#3181 [20:30] <NateTheGreat> oh ok
#3182 [20:31] <Coll> but after that whole fiasco
#3183 [20:31] <Sargek99> and for some reason even on peacful i am spawning skeles and zombies and everything
#3184 [20:31] <Sargek99> its bad
#3185 [20:31] <Coll> it has been acting a little weird
#3186 [20:31] <Sargek99> well at least it says its peaceful on my client
#3187 [20:31] <Sargek99> is there a new setting on the server that i dont know about?
#3188 [20:31] <xales> server doesn't use the client's mode
#3189 [20:31] <xales> spawn-mobs setting in server.properties
#3190 [20:32] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: how does your mirc script work? if chanserv voices me your script ops me?
#3191 [20:32] <NateTheGreat> Coll: I really can't think of what to do, I've never dealt with that before :/
#3192 [20:32] <NateTheGreat> brb
#3193 [20:33] <Coll> ok
#3194 [20:33] <xales> Kealper: it detects voices and if the person being voiced is you, it ops you
#3195 [20:34] <Kealper> oh so it just does it from anyone voicing me
#3196 [20:34] <xales> yup
#3197 [20:34] <Kealper> meh....aubot actually checks to make sure that chanserv does it, meaning that i am 100% going to be me, since i gotta ident for that to happen :S
#3198 [20:35] <xales> lol
#3199 [20:36] <Sargek99> Hmmm
#3200 [20:36] <Sargek99> did they just change that Xales? Before it was not like that
#3201 [20:37] <xales> Sargek99: nope, the server doesn't have difficulty settings and doesn't obey the client's settings
#3202 [20:37] <Sargek99> Hmm
#3203 [20:37] <Sargek99> wonder why I never had issues like that before. ~shrugs~
#3204 [20:39] <Sargek99> is rough having to deal with skeles and zombies and creepers right away with a fresh server lol
#3205 [20:46] <xales> oh btw Sargek99, you have to restart the server for the changes to take effect
#3206 [20:46] <xales> if you didn't know
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#3208 [20:52] <AppleReviewr> hello?
#3209 [20:52] <AppleReviewr> is someone here?
#3210 [20:53] <Kealper> rawr?
#3211 [20:53] <AppleReviewr> hi could you help me?
#3212 [20:53] <AppleReviewr> or someone?
#3213 [20:53] <Kealper> depends, what's the issue?
#3214 [20:55] <xales> Kealper: #minecraft
#3215 [20:55] <xales> :(
#3216 [20:55] <xales> you should go there
#3217 [20:55] <xales> I heard its nice this time of year
#3218 [20:55] <xales> :P
#3219 [20:55] <Kealper> i have a reputation to uphold of being mega-idle in there lol
#3220 [20:56] <Kealper> xales: you missed a perfect joke in there with that yeahman guy
#3221 [20:56] <xales> did I?
#3222 [20:56] <xales> >.>
#3223 [20:56] <Kealper> yeahman: yeahman
#3224 [20:56] <xales> what
#3225 [20:57] <Kealper> to answer yes to his question...lol
#3226 [20:57] <xales> oh
#3227 [20:57] <xales> lol
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#3229 [21:00] <NinjaKirby> I'm standing in a well lit, small room, built 2 blocks height, near the Cloud layer. I'm just staring at my screen a moment and a Zombie raeped me.
#3230 [21:00] <NinjaKirby> Doors are closed, can they REALLY spawn under such a circumstance?
#3231 [21:00] <NinjaKirby> Never happened before like this, part of the new updates, this Spawning?
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#3233 [21:02] <xales> well
#3234 [21:02] <xales> zombies spawn in darkness
#3235 [21:02] <xales> if there was even 2x2 of enough darkness
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#3237 [21:02] <xales> zombie spawns
#3238 [21:02] <Xaviergmail> help plux
#3239 [21:02] <xales> what?
#3240 [21:02] <Xaviergmail> I can't play minecraft
#3241 [21:02] <Xaviergmail> lul
#3242 [21:02] <NinjaKirby> ... something has changed, regardless
#3243 [21:02] <Xaviergmail> screen's black
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#3245 [21:02] <NinjaKirby> And apparently "well lit" isn't sufficient anymore
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#3249 [21:03] <xales> hi clone1018
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#3251 [21:03] <xales> hello tumbleweed
#3252 [21:03] <xales> xD
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#3254 [21:03] <Kealper> hello....HEROBRINE!
#3255 [21:04] <Kealper> wait...why'd he have to join right before that
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#3257 [21:04] <xales> lol
#3258 [21:04] <Kealper> man....trying to learn Fully Alive on the guitar....that shit is hard
#3259 [21:04] <xales> lol
#3260 [21:05] <Kealper> it flies up and down the fretboard so fast :S
#3261 [21:06] <NinjaKirby> Mystery resolved, there was a hole in the roof. Puts my mind at ease about any ridiculous spawning abilities,
#3262 [21:07] <Kealper> O.o
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#3264 [21:10] <Xaviergmail> Kealper
#3265 [21:10] <Xaviergmail> my babyyy
#3266 [21:10] <Xaviergmail> help me
#3267 [21:10] <Xaviergmail> d:
#3268 [21:10] <Xaviergmail> D:
#3269 [21:10] <Kealper> mmrawr?
#3270 [21:10] <Kealper> left....wrist....can not move...too tired....
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#3272 [21:11] <Xaviergmail> your hand's tired after a whole day of masturbation, I understand
#3273 [21:11] <Xaviergmail> but when i open minecraft the screen's all black
#3274 [21:11] <Xaviergmail> d:
#3275 [21:11] <xales> lol
#3276 [21:11] <Kealper> if moving my left hand up and down a shaft of rosewood is masturbation, then yes
#3277 [21:11] <Kealper> very fast, i might ad
#3278 [21:11] <Kealper> add*
#3279 [21:11] <Kealper> and i had some really fast finger action in there aswell
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#3281 [21:12] <Kealper> and i'm also talking about playing a guitar....you horrible, horrible people
#3282 [21:12] <bobingabout> anyone help me out setting up a minecraft server? having a few technical difficulties with it
#3283 [21:12] <Xaviergmail> Kealper
#3284 [21:12] <Xaviergmail> my prob
#3285 [21:12] <Xaviergmail> plox
#3286 [21:12] <xales> bobingabout: whats the problem? ask away
#3287 [21:12] <Kealper> bobingabout: xales wants to
#3288 [21:12] <Kealper> hey, i was right...lol
#3289 [21:12] <Kealper> yes, Xaviergmail?
#3290 [21:13] <xales> Kealper: if your gonna refer people to me like that I want a + :P
#3291 [21:13] <bobingabout> Basicly... when people try to connect to my minecraft server, the network card stops working
#3292 [21:13] <xales> bobingabout: what do you mean "stops working"
#3293 [21:13] <xales> Kealper: ._.
#3294 [21:13] <Xaviergmail> but when i open minecraft the screen's all black
#3295 [21:13] <xales> <--- if that turns into an @ im deopping myself
#3296 [21:13] <bobingabout> nothing in or out at all, reboot the computer to fix it
#3297 [21:13] <Kealper> there. xales you have just opened your door to a world of pain, your name is now at the top of the userlist :P
#3298 [21:14] <bobingabout> can't connect with any program
#3299 [21:14] <Xaviergmail> the but is cause i pressed the up arrow
#3300 [21:14] <xales> bobingabout: it sounds like the network card may be really old then
#3301 [21:14] <Kealper> Xaviergmail: O.o under windows 7?
#3302 [21:14] <bobingabout> anyway, i thought i fixed this problem i mentioned, only to have the same happen during random times, but ONLY when someone is connected to the minecraft server
#3303 [21:14] <xales> bobingabout: do you know how old the computer is?
#3304 [21:14] <xales> and what the specs/specifically, what network card it is
#3305 [21:14] <bobingabout> lets see... it arived on the 22ns
#3306 [21:14] <clone1018> I've looked into bobingabout problem and nothing is wrong with the network or anything
#3307 [21:15] <bobingabout> so.. 3 days old
#3308 [21:15] <bobingabout> the specs of the card... oooh... ummm.. its a 1000mbps onboard
#3309 [21:15] <xales> bobingabout: what OS is the server running
#3310 [21:15] <clone1018> WinXP
#3311 [21:16] <clone1018> Home
#3312 [21:16] <bobingabout> made by realtek
#3313 [21:16] <bobingabout> yes, XP home
#3314 [21:16] <xales> umm
#3315 [21:16] <xales> sounds like a busted card then
#3316 [21:16] <xales> or mobo
#3317 [21:16] <xales> >.>
#3318 [21:16] <xales> if it was something other than windows it would be easier to diagnose exactly what the problem is, but >.>
#3319 [21:16] <bobingabout> brand new, and although i'm not counting out the possibility of it being a hardware problem, it only seems to crop up when minecraft server has an active link
#3320 [21:17] <bobingabout> one thing that leaves me to beleave it is NOT the onboard network card is because i added a USB wireless pen thinggy to it, and set the server up on that instead, only to have the exact same bug
#3321 [21:18] <xales> sounds like it might be windows then?
#3322 [21:18] <xales> disable firewalls, etc
#3323 [21:18] <bobingabout> could be ther motherboard, but my thoughts is a software issue... maybe linux would fix it, but i've not used it before
#3324 [21:19] <bobingabout> hardware firewall and windows software firewall are off
#3325 [21:19] <bobingabout> actually, hardware firewall is on, but, it happens even when i'm connected to it from inside my network, which doesn't pass through that firewall, so... probably not the problem
#3326 [21:20] <xales> turn it off anyway
#3327 [21:20] <xales> minecraft uses excessive amount of bandwidth
#3328 [21:20] <xales> it may be some sort of "ddos/flood protection"
#3329 [21:20] <bobingabout> hmmm
#3330 [21:20] <bobingabout> maybe, but then why might it work from another computer in the house?
#3331 [21:21] <bobingabout> as i said to clone, i'd use another computer, but... 2 points
#3332 [21:21] <bobingabout> 1. my other computers are big, noisy, power hogs
#3333 [21:21] <bobingabout> 2. i built this specificly to run minecraft
#3334 [21:21] <xales> can you put the card in another box and try?
#3335 [21:22] <bobingabout> onboard card
#3336 [21:22] <xales> hmm
#3337 [21:22] <xales> crash the network card again
#3338 [21:22] <xales> then run ipconfig in cmd.exe
#3339 [21:22] <bobingabout> the case is so small, i can't even add a card, which is why i used a USB wireless network pen to try, and it crashed that too
#3340 [21:22] <bobingabout> okay... small problem there, the computer has no keyboard, mouse or screen, just a network cable and power cord X3
#3341 [21:23] <bobingabout> so, when the network card dies, i lose all access to the computer
#3342 [21:24] <xales> then why are you running xp home on it?
#3343 [21:24] <xales> :/
#3344 [21:24] <bobingabout> because i had a spare serial code from when i used to build PCs
#3345 [21:24] <xales> also, that sounds like the card is just not working
#3346 [21:24] <bobingabout> XP home was cheap, and got the job done for the general user
#3347 [21:25] <bobingabout> Yeah, i did consider that myself, so used a wireless USB card
#3348 [21:25] <bobingabout> same problem
#3349 [21:25] <xales> defective mobo?
#3350 [21:25] <xales> well
#3351 [21:25] <xales> probably windows then
#3352 [21:25] <xales> can you reinstall it?
#3353 [21:26] <bobingabout> god i hope its not the mobo X3
#3354 [21:26] <bobingabout> and i can re-install windows
#3355 [21:26] <xales> try that
#3356 [21:26] <xales> it sounds like a software problem
#3357 [21:26] * bobingabout groans
#3357 [21:26] <Xaviergmail> kealper
#3358 [21:26] <Xaviergmail> help me
#3359 [21:26] <xales> also, BIOS defaults can fuck up the card, so you might look at that. but, as you said, no keyboard or monitor
#3360 [21:26] <Xaviergmail> minecraft's black
#3361 [21:26] <xales> might be worth plugging one in
#3362 [21:26] <xales> Xaviergmail: no need to be racist now
#3363 [21:27] <xales> also, I don't think he is around right now
#3364 [21:27] <bobingabout> Yeah, i guess i can hook it up to try it
#3365 [21:27] <xales> try ipconfig first
#3366 [21:27] <xales> if it doesnt list any devices
#3367 [21:27] <xales> then you know its the card
#3368 [21:27] <Xaviergmail> xales im not bein racist
#3369 [21:27] <Xaviergmail> the screen of minecraft is black
#3370 [21:27] <xales> 21:26 < Xaviergmail> minecraft's black
#3371 [21:27] <xales> Xaviergmail: /s
#3372 [21:27] <Kealper> lol
#3373 [21:27] <bobingabout> annoyingly, the mobo is quite annoying, it has an onboard LVDP port, so when it boots without a screen, it defaults to that, meaning i have to VNC into it to tell it to use the monitor
#3374 [21:28] <xales> -_-
#3375 [21:28] <bobingabout> I know, i wanna turn that off X3
#3376 [21:28] <Kealper> Xaviergmail: uhh....pm me?
#3377 [21:28] <xales> rip the port off of the mobo
#3378 [21:28] <xales> post will fail to find it and it will be ignored
#3379 [21:29] <bobingabout> i doubt that'll work, since its literally just pins, also, void the warrenty
#3380 [21:29] <xales> meh
#3381 [21:29] <xales> didn't said it wouldn't
#3382 [21:30] <xales> put post checks that the circuit is complete (or should), and so removing the pins
#3383 [21:30] <xales> would interrupt that circuit
#3384 [21:30] <xales> in theory anyway
#3385 [21:30] <bobingabout> perhaps a component that goes to the port, rather than the port itself, like a resistor
#3386 [21:31] <bobingabout> anyway, you're right, install windows again, see if that fixs it
#3387 [21:31] <bobingabout> a little drastic, but possibly effective
#3388 [21:31] <bobingabout> it wouldn't be the first time i've had a defective installation of windows before
#3389 [21:32] <xales> ok
#3390 [21:32] <bobingabout> its 2:30am so i'm not going to do it now
#3391 [21:32] <bobingabout> i'll try tomorrow or something
#3392 [21:32] <bobingabout> thankyou for your time
#3393 [21:32] <xales> yw
#3394 [21:33] <xales> also, you may have better luck with a linux
#3395 [21:33] <xales> free too :)
#3396 [21:33] <xales> and installs in 10 minutes
#3397 [21:33] <Kealper> i can second that on both fronts
#3398 [21:33] <bobingabout> i had also considered that possibility, however, i've never used linux before, and therefore wouldn't know where to begin
#3399 [21:33] <Kealper> linux mint
#3400 [21:33] <xales> no
#3401 [21:33] <xales> use a server os
#3402 [21:33] <xales> debian
#3403 [21:33] <xales> lol
#3404 [21:34] <xales> bobingabout: its not hard
#3405 [21:34] <bobingabout> knopix!
#3406 [21:34] <xales> lawl
#3407 [21:34] <Kealper> XD
#3408 [21:34] <xales> we can teach you here or reccomend great tutorials/reading
#3409 [21:34] <Kealper> xales: mint is debian based :S
#3410 [21:34] <bobingabout> a friend installed arc on one of my PCs once
#3411 [21:34] <xales> linuxcommand.org is my favorite
#3412 [21:34] <Kealper> wait...server...nvm
#3413 [21:34] <PatrickOMFG> I'd say ubuntu server edition, just sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
#3414 [21:34] <xales> Kealper: but its designed for desktop
#3415 [21:34] <xales> :P
#3416 [21:34] <xales> the point of running a server
#3417 [21:34] <PatrickOMFG> that way you have a linux server with GUI
#3418 [21:34] <xales> is no gui
#3419 [21:34] <xales> >.>
#3420 [21:35] <xales> also, he doesnt leave a monitor/keyboard/mouse plugged into it
#3421 [21:35] <Kealper> yea yea i read up a bit and seen he needed something for a server lol
#3422 [21:35] <bobingabout> debian, ubuntu, knopix... mint, lot of options here
#3423 [21:35] <PatrickOMFG> arch for super minimalistic, just install the tools you want/need
#3424 [21:35] <Kealper> <3 debian
#3425 [21:35] <bobingabout> Arch could be what my friend used before
#3426 [21:36] <PatrickOMFG> I used to use Arch, then I started playing PC games and got Windows 7
#3427 [21:36] <bobingabout> came on something like a 30M CD, one of those small 3" disks
#3428 [21:36] <PatrickOMFG> Arch can be pretty small
#3429 [21:36] <PatrickOMFG> the core ISO is 300 mb
#3430 [21:36] <bobingabout> it basicly downloaded most of the operating system from the shell
#3431 [21:36] <PatrickOMFG> 150mb if you get the net install
#3432 [21:36] <bobingabout> this was about 6 years ago
#3433 [21:37] <bobingabout> i'm sure the core install has grown from 30M to 150M since then
#3434 [21:37] <PatrickOMFG> it's a good minimalistic OS and would be good for a server
#3435 [21:37] <xales> debian netinstall
#3436 [21:37] <xales> which is what you use 99% of the time
#3437 [21:37] <xales> installes about 100mb of packages
#3438 [21:37] <xales> in server mode, anyway
#3439 [21:37] <xales> debian is mostly designed for servers
#3440 [21:38] <bobingabout> rather than deleting XP, how easy would it be to dual boot?
#3441 [21:38] <clone1018> COUGHcentosCOUGH
#3442 [21:38] <PatrickOMFG> dual booting is easy
#3443 [21:38] <PatrickOMFG> as long as you have space to spare
#3444 [21:38] <bobingabout> currently no, but easeus is awesome and free, and can resize my partition easily
#3445 [21:39] <xales> clone1018: you must be joking
#3446 [21:39] <bobingabout> though, you have to pay if you want to run it on a 64bit OS
#3447 [21:39] <xales> centos is more out of date than debian-stable
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#3449 [21:39] <xales> bobingabout: gparted is better
#3450 [21:39] <xales> you can create the swap+ext3 that linux wants there too
#3451 [21:40] <xales> to save yourself from the headache from using the installer
#3452 [21:40] <xales> and specifying partitions
#3453 [21:40] <xales> :\
#3454 [21:40] <bobingabout> maybe
#3455 [21:41] <xales> also gparted livecd is like
#3456 [21:41] <xales> 20mb
#3457 [21:41] <clone1018> I love CentOS
#3458 [21:41] <xales> clone1018: Cent is out of date
#3459 [21:41] <xales> like
#3460 [21:41] <xales> so bad
#3461 [21:41] <clone1018> I dun care
#3462 [21:41] <xales> well then
#3463 [21:41] <xales> your clients might
#3464 [21:41] <xales> when they cant use newest php
#3465 [21:41] <xales> :P
#3466 [21:47] <bobingabout> 20m is a bit off, its 120m
#3467 [21:47] <xales> for what?
#3468 [21:47] <bobingabout> gparted liveCD
#3469 [21:47] <xales> I installed debian on a piece of garbage in about 15 minutes
#3470 [21:47] <xales> oh
#3471 [21:47] <xales> well
#3472 [21:47] <xales> i thought you meant 20 minutes
#3473 [21:47] <xales> hehe
#3474 [21:47] <bobingabout> sorry X3
#3475 [21:48] <bobingabout> 20MB 120MB
#3476 [21:48] <bobingabout> also, as an engineer, i should slap myself for saying m instead of M
#3477 [21:48] <bobingabout> m is milli, M is mega
#3478 [21:48] <bobingabout> the difference is about 12 decimal points
#3479 [21:49] <bobingabout> the difference is like, the difference between a pea, and the moon
#3480 [21:49] <kontroll> As an engineer, then, would you say it was justifiable for my buddy to punch the TNT we were placing and murder me in the mine shaft?
#3481 [21:49] <bobingabout> probably a bad idea X3
#3482 [21:50] <bobingabout> okay, a vollyball and the moon
#3483 [21:50] <kontroll> Yeah, it felt like it.
#3484 [21:50] <xales> lol
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#3486 [21:51] <bobingabout> one is about 200mm in diameter, the other is about 200Mm in diameter
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#3488 [21:51] <Sengoku> hey
#3489 [21:51] <Sengoku> My brothers computer keeps freezing when he plays minecraft.. it never happened on the alpha version
#3490 [21:52] <bobingabout> my problem is more interesting :P
#3491 [21:52] <xales> lol
#3492 [21:52] <xales> Sengoku: what are system specs
#3493 [21:52] <bobingabout> sorry
#3494 [21:52] <Dythan> I was trying to buy minecraft after putting credit card info got this Transaction error An error occured and your purchase was not completed Message from server: This card is ineligible for 3-D Secure payments. If you need to contact the shop please use the following reference ID: 106715641
#3495 [21:53] <Sengoku> e8400, stock clock speed, 4 GB ram, Vista x64, 8800 GTS
#3496 [21:53] <xales> Dythan: its a prepaid card
#3497 [21:53] <xales> which cannot be used in other countries
#3498 [21:53] <xales> sorry :(
#3499 [21:53] <bobingabout> woah, i have a 8800 GTS!
#3500 [21:53] <xales> Sengoku: what exactly is the stock clock speed?
#3501 [21:54] <Dythan> Ah weird it was my dad's credit card I'm from US btw paypal should work even if I'm from US right?
#3502 [21:54] <bobingabout> different computer though, so irrelivent, said computer actually dies when i try to install java, so it could never run minecraft in the first place
#3503 [21:54] <Sengoku> xales: 3 GHz
#3504 [21:55] <xales> hmm
#3505 [21:55] <xales> update graphics card driver
#3506 [21:55] <xales> i guess
#3507 [21:55] <xales> check resource usage in task manager too
#3508 [21:55] <feenyx> and do a proper uninstall, reg clean, then install new driver
#3509 [21:55] <bobingabout> upgrade operating system too, Vista is kinda sucky unless you have the latest service pack
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#3511 [21:56] <feenyx> can never be too thorough
#3512 [21:56] <yarnwitch> oooh another room even
#3513 [21:56] <feenyx> actually with Vista, both downgrade and upgrade work, so long as your hardware has drivers available
#3514 [21:56] <yarnwitch> guess i need the server room
#3515 [21:56] <feenyx> xp or 7 are equally superior
#3516 [21:56] <xales> yarnwitch: nobody is in there
#3517 [21:56] <xales> just ask here
#3518 [21:56] <yarnwitch> i see this now
#3519 [21:57] <bobingabout> clone is who you'd want to talk to about servers, but he left
#3520 [21:57] <xales> Kealper: can you remove the thing about the empty room from the topic please? :)
#3521 [21:57] <xales> I can help too
#3522 [21:57] <yarnwitch> im trying to run a server (which worked fine minutes ago using the .exe)
#3523 [21:57] <xales> >.>
#3524 [21:57] <xales> yarnwitch: whats the problem?
#3525 [21:57] <yarnwitch> but i wanted to test out the new runecraft
#3526 [21:57] <yarnwitch> so i added the .class files to the .jar and saved it
#3527 [21:57] <yarnwitch> now it "works" but nobody can login. i added playernames to the playerlist
#3528 [21:57] <PatrickOMFG> is there a way i can remove bedrock as an admin in smp, without editing the map?
#3529 [21:57] <yarnwitch> and it keeps yelling at me to login
#3530 [21:58] <xales> PatrickOMFG: no
#3531 [21:58] <Dythan> Quick question paypal should work even if I'm in the US right?
#3532 [21:58] <bobingabout> should do, thats what i used from the UK
#3533 [21:58] <xales> Dythan: yes, but it also won't take the prepaid card for international purchases
#3534 [21:59] <Dythan> Alright Thank you.
#3535 [21:59] <xales> yup
#3536 [21:59] <xales> also, if you have for example
#3537 [21:59] <xales> an old (empty) prepaid card
#3538 [21:59] <xales> or mostly empty
#3539 [21:59] <xales> you can create another paypal account using that card, and 'send money' to it
#3540 [22:00] <xales> then use paypal funds to cheat the restriction
#3541 [22:00] <xales> because money goes to paypal account, which does not have the restriction
#3542 [22:00] <Dythan> So pretty much put my prepaid card into a paypal then buy minecraft that way
#3543 [22:00] <bobingabout> should work
#3544 [22:00] <Dythan> I'll try it
#3545 [22:00] <bobingabout> as long as it is 2 seperate transactions
#3546 [22:01] * yarnwitch tilts head to the side
#3546 [22:01] <bobingabout> oh, erm... do you want to "Fix it" or make it work with the mod?
#3547 [22:02] <yarnwitch> make it work with the mod. supposedly the mod is all up and working and a-ok
#3548 [22:02] * Kealper has returned
#3548 [22:02] <Kealper> !!
#3549 [22:02] <yarnwitch> i got the .exe cause i couldnt get the .jar and .bat version to work in the first place
#3550 [22:02] <bobingabout> i've had no experience with mods unfortunately, so, i can't help with that
#3551 [22:02] <xales> oh sorry yarnwitch
#3552 [22:02] <xales> ty Kealper
#3553 [22:03] <bobingabout> and with a server, you'd need the .jar to mod it, the exe is self contained
#3554 [22:03] <xales> yarnwitch: you should use the exe on windows
#3555 [22:03] <yarnwitch> right.
#3556 [22:03] <yarnwitch> however, the mods (runecraft) say to use the .jar version
#3557 [22:03] <bobingabout> must use the jar version for mods, yes
#3558 [22:03] <xales> oh
#3559 [22:03] <xales> make sure to allocate ram then
#3560 [22:03] <xales> exe does it for you
#3561 [22:03] <xales> jar cannot
#3562 [22:04] <yarnwitch> how would one do that... im not exactly... an expert in this
#3563 [22:04] <bobingabout> says how to launch the jar in the download page
#3564 [22:04] <yarnwitch> .jar is launched by opening the .bat, bobingabout
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#3566 [22:04] <bobingabout> basicly, rather than "double clicking" the .jar file to load it, you need to give it a command with peramiters, the easiest way to do that in windows is with the /bat file
#3567 [22:04] <bobingabout> .bat*
#3568 [22:04] <yarnwitch> i dont have a problem launching it, as its running right now
#3569 [22:05] <xales> yarnwitch: with any people on it
#3570 [22:05] <bobingabout> the .jar version?
#3571 [22:05] <xales> it wont work
#3572 [22:05] <yarnwitch> i have a problem logging in without it kicking me, and i doublechecked to make sure i was added with the players file
#3573 [22:05] <xales> yarnwitch: also, if the mod is the problem (works without it, but not with it)
#3574 [22:05] <yarnwitch> but i've closed and reopened it several times to no avail
#3575 [22:05] <xales> then the mod probably doesnt work with the latest version
#3576 [22:05] <yarnwitch> the .jar doesn't work regardless for me
#3577 [22:06] <xales> ^see above about batch files
#3578 [22:06] <yarnwitch> only the .exe, so it might be the ram you were talking about
#3579 [22:06] <bobingabout> i had a thought... rather than re-installing my OS, do you think its worth me trying to run the .jar server instead of the .exe?
#3580 [22:06] <yarnwitch> i *am* using the .bat, fyi
#3581 [22:06] <Buzzinator> Hey there, everytime I log out of Minecraft one of these notepad files is saved where my .exe is located. It says something about a fatal error in Java Environment. How do I stop this?
#3582 [22:07] <bobingabout> send it to notch and tell him to fix the error
#3583 [22:07] <Buzzinator> what would be the best way to contact him?
#3584 [22:07] <Visiiri> Buzzinator, support@mojang.com
#3585 [22:08] <bobingabout> i sometimes get that problem too buzz
#3586 [22:08] <xales> bobingabout: doubtful
#3587 [22:08] <yarnwitch> hmmm. ok, i wonder if im explaining this wrong
#3588 [22:08] <xales> Buzzinator: paste one of the notepad files please, here
#3589 [22:08] <xales> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com
#3590 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, it's the OpenAL thing
#3591 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Just need to install a new version
#3592 [22:08] <xales> yarnwitch: what error, exactly, do you get
#3593 [22:08] <Buzzinator> http://pastebin.com/BBdDYTmE
#3594 [22:09] <yarnwitch> although i've added my username to players.txt, when i attempt to login, i get " kicking /ip: you need to log in!
#3595 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, Buzzinator, it's OpenAL
#3596 [22:09] <xales> yarnwitch: are you using "play offline" when you log into minecraft?
#3597 [22:09] <bobingabout> my new server is funky, 2 cores, 2 threads per core
#3598 [22:10] <Buzzinator> lol pardon my stupidity, but what is OpenAL?
#3599 [22:10] <yarnwitch> i wasn't aware there was a play offline option. i have no trouble with other online plays, however
#3600 [22:10] <xales> bobingabout: windows multithreading/multicpu is shit
#3601 [22:10] <bobingabout> Graphics driver
#3602 [22:10] <bobingabout> well... Graphics software
#3603 [22:10] <xales> yarnwitch: browse to http://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=xales
#3604 [22:10] <xales> see what that says
#3605 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Buzzinator - Simple way to fix, get OpenAL from creative's site (google it)
#3606 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Install it, it'll be in your windows' System32 folder
#3607 [22:10] <yarnwitch> true
#3608 [22:10] <Buzzinator> will do
#3609 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Copy it from there to your /.minecraft/bin folder
#3610 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> It just stems from Notch including a VERY old version of OpenAL with minecraft, thus the bazillion error logs you get when you close minecraft
#3611 [22:16] <Buzzinator> awesome it worked, thanks... one more question: is it possible to use one of my single player worlds for multiplayer mode?
#3612 [22:17] <xales> it is
#3613 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes Buzzinator
#3614 [22:17] <xales> copy .minecraft/save/world(whatever) to the server's world folder
#3615 [22:17] <xales> I believe
#3616 [22:17] * GreyVulpine nods
#3616 [22:17] <Buzzinator> ahh ok easy enough
#3617 [22:17] <Buzzinator> thanks guys, merry christmas :)
#3618 [22:17] <yarnwitch> have a good one!
#3619 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> To you as well
#3620 [22:18] <yarnwitch> hmm... well i guess i'll open the exe version so people can play
#3621 [22:18] <yarnwitch> but, it is a bit frustrating
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#3623 [22:19] <xales> yarnwitch: it sounds like the mod is breaking it
#3624 [22:19] <yarnwitch> xales: it didnt work before the mod either
#3625 [22:19] <xales> are you running the jar correctly
#3626 [22:19] <xales> or just double clicking it
#3627 [22:19] <yarnwitch> using the .bat, like i've said before
#3628 [22:19] <xales> sorry, didn't see you say that
#3629 [22:19] <yarnwitch> sorry im not typing too clearly
#3630 [22:19] <xales> firewall?
#3631 [22:19] <yarnwitch> its cool
#3632 [22:19] <xales> try turning firewall off
#3633 [22:20] <yarnwitch> not that i know of. it works 100% fine when i use the .exe version for the server
#3634 [22:20] <yarnwitch> but the .exe doesn't allow for mods
#3635 [22:20] <xales> do you have the latest .jar?
#3636 [22:20] <yarnwitch> as far as i know, anyway
#3637 [22:20] <yarnwitch> it should be. i got it today
#3638 [22:20] <xales> redownload it
#3639 [22:20] <xales> also, what does it say when you try to connect using the jar?
#3640 [22:21] <yarnwitch> ohhhhh
#3641 [22:22] <yarnwitch> open with java blah blah sentence. might help if i knew java
#3642 [22:22] <yarnwitch> or where to even put that info in
#3643 [22:22] <xales> paste on
#3644 [22:22] <xales> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com
#3645 [22:22] <yarnwitch> ah, no, its right underneath the download link
#3646 [22:22] <xales> oh
#3647 [22:22] <xales> the .bat should be doing that
#3648 [22:22] <yarnwitch> Then download minecraft_server.jar to anywhere, then launch it as:
#3649 [22:22] <yarnwitch> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3650 [22:22] <yarnwitch> yeah, thats what i would think
#3651 [22:22] <xales> can you open the .bat with notepad and pastebin it?
#3652 [22:23] <yarnwitch> http://pastebin.com/K1AwXVv6
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#3654 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer
#3655 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> There's your problem
#3656 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> You're using the classic server
#3657 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> beta server's on the same page where you get the client.
#3658 [22:24] <xales> beat me to it again
#3659 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> It's at the bottom of the page
#3660 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> :)
#3661 [22:24] <xales> >.<
#3662 [22:24] <Kealper> i love how my router resets my connection when i apply port forwards lol
#3663 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, IRC reflexes
#3664 [22:25] <yarnwitch> alrighty. :/ notch needs to fix the download then, methinks
#3665 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Years of training
#3666 [22:25] <yarnwitch> its what came automatically in the download.
#3667 [22:25] <xales> what download?
#3668 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Clicking the "multiplayer" link on the website
#3669 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> that links to the classic mulitplayer
#3670 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> You need to click on Download, for all the beta downloads
#3671 [22:25] <xales> GreyVulpine: i've been using irc for about 10 years; I just cant stand this keyboard - I type slow on it :(
#3672 [22:26] <xales> not my keyboard :\
#3673 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Ah, heh.
#3674 [22:26] <yarnwitch> http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3675 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> I've been IRCing... for way too damn long.
#3676 [22:26] <xales> did you see my threat about deopping myself?
#3677 [22:26] <xales> lol
#3678 [22:26] <yarnwitch> the last two lines on the pages. i got the download from there, but the info from the .bat i sent you was from that
#3679 [22:26] <xales> i've opped in large channels before. /wrists
#3680 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Hah, I'm still an oper in a small network
#3681 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> /wrists
#3682 [22:26] <xales> yarnwitch: then the .bat was wrong and shouldn't be working
#3683 [22:27] <xales> haha, my friend linked to undernet a while ago
#3684 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez
#3685 [22:27] <yarnwitch> xales: its not. thats why i was in here
#3686 [22:27] <xales> and he put me as an ircop
#3687 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry... >.>
#3688 [22:27] <xales> but I never even /opered up, I said NO TY
#3689 [22:27] <xales> yarnwitch: you could have said nothing was coming up at all :/
#3690 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Wait, what's going on?
#3691 [22:28] <yarnwitch> but stuff was coming up? i ought to make a youtube of this mess
#3692 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Define "stuff"
#3693 [22:28] <yarnwitch> it just wouldnt allow log ins
#3694 [22:28] <yarnwitch> "hi, world is booted! EVERYTHING IS SUPER!"
#3695 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Right, because you were still using the .bat that launched the classic server
#3696 [22:28] <Sengoku> hey xales: just updated drivers, working for a bit then it shat the bed
#3697 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> You can't connect to classic using a beta client
#3698 [22:28] <yarnwitch> "how dare you login? *kick*
#3699 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> It'll kick you
#3700 [22:29] <xales> yarnwitch: thats the classic server
#3701 [22:29] <yarnwitch> ah, see, thats what i needed to know
#3702 [22:29] <yarnwitch> hmmm,
#3703 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Sorry
#3704 [22:29] <xales> Sengoku: I have no idea then. make sure that nothing else is running
#3705 [22:29] <xales> and seriously _nothing_
#3706 [22:29] <xales> no antivirus, no firewall
#3707 [22:29] <xales> most likely
#3708 [22:30] <yarnwitch> anywhoo, thanks! imma idle in here until im sure i got it right, but im sorry for being unclear in my typing. please avoid the flu this year
#3709 [22:30] <Sengoku> xales: thanks, i'll try that
#3710 [22:30] <xales> yarnwitch: you are welcome to idle here
#3711 [22:30] <xales> Sengoku: ok. good luck
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#3713 [22:32] <Jackson413> hi
#3714 [22:32] <xales> hello Jackson413
#3715 [22:32] <Jackson413> can i get sum help?
#3716 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> In #MineCraftHelp?
#3717 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#3718 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Never
#3719 [22:32] <Jackson413> lol
#3720 [22:32] <Jackson413> well i started this server
#3721 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Classic? Beta?
#3722 [22:32] <Jackson413> beta
#3723 [22:33] <Jackson413> and it is going rite now
#3724 [22:33] <Jackson413> with the intentions of just two people playing on it
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#3726 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Okay..
#3727 [22:33] <Jackson413> me and my bro
#3728 [22:33] <Jackson413> we're on the same household network
#3729 [22:34] <Jackson413> now, i am able to connect to the server via the host comp
#3730 [22:34] <Jackson413> but the other one....not so much
#3731 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> How is he connecting?
#3732 [22:34] <Jackson413> i tried initially typing in my port number, top no avail
#3733 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Your LAN address? your public?
#3734 [22:34] <Jackson413> to no avail
#3735 [22:34] <Jackson413> i think im public
#3736 [22:34] <xales> Jackson413: what address and what port number did you try
#3737 [22:34] <Jackson413> then i tried the ip
#3738 [22:34] <xales> also, you need to use the lan address
#3739 [22:34] <Jackson413> the the ip with port
#3740 [22:34] <Jackson413> then "localhost"
#3741 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> What IP is he connecting with.
#3742 [22:35] <xales> Jackson413: what IP did he try
#3743 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> localhost points back to the same computer
#3744 [22:35] <Jackson413> oh
#3745 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> What IP did he use?
#3746 [22:35] <Jackson413> well thats embarressing
#3747 [22:35] <xales> did the IP start with 192.168
#3748 [22:35] <Jackson413> no
#3749 [22:35] <xales> or 127
#3750 [22:35] <Jackson413> i used whatismyip.com to figure out the ip
#3751 [22:35] <xales> wrong IP then
#3752 [22:35] <xales> you need the local one, not the public one
#3753 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> public IP then, wouldn't work unless you port forwarded
#3754 [22:36] <Jackson413> i used whatismyip.com
#3755 [22:36] <Jackson413> is that right?
#3756 [22:36] <xales> Jackson413: no
#3757 [22:36] <xales> that will show you the public IP
#3758 [22:36] <xales> not the local one
#3759 [22:36] <Jackson413> the ip 9s 24.210.28.8
#3760 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - Running windows?
#3761 [22:36] <Jackson413> 24.210.28.18
#3762 [22:36] <Jackson413> xp
#3763 [22:36] <Jackson413> yea
#3764 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> start -> run -> cmd -> ipconfig
#3765 [22:36] <Jackson413> host comp?
#3766 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> that'll tell you your internal NAT/LAN address
#3767 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> yes
#3768 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> compute running the server
#3769 [22:37] <Jackson413> i can connect with that?
#3770 [22:37] <xales> yes
#3771 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3772 [22:37] <Jackson413> do i include the port #?
#3773 [22:37] <Jackson413> with the ip?
#3774 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> If it's different from default, no
#3775 [22:37] <xales> the port is 25565 unless you changed it
#3776 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> default is 25565
#3777 [22:37] <yarnwitch> after changing the .bat file it worked out fine
#3778 [22:37] <Jackson413> at the end
#3779 [22:37] <yarnwitch> thanks sooooo much everyone
#3780 [22:37] <yarnwitch> <3
#3781 [22:37] <xales> yarnwitch: of course it did
#3782 [22:37] <xales> <3
#3783 [22:37] <Jackson413> ok ill be back with results
#3784 [22:38] <yarnwitch> our group had been without a server for about 2 months and i got sick of it. i should know more about it before having one, but it was... i guess about as urgent as an online game could be?
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#3786 [22:39] <xales> yarnwitch: be careful though, running it at home can lead to a lot of problems
#3787 [22:39] <xales> some ISPs dont let you run a server of any sort (they dont go hunting though)
#3788 [22:39] <xales> and your IP will likely change every once and a while
#3789 [22:39] <yarnwitch> its temporary until we've got a server up. husband got new job, so....
#3790 [22:39] <yarnwitch> at most, until february
#3791 [22:39] <xales> ah
#3792 [22:39] <xales> ok
#3793 [22:40] <yarnwitch> and i've limited players to 6
#3794 [22:40] <yarnwitch> so it should overload too much
#3795 [22:40] <yarnwitch> at least i *think* im being cautious
#3796 [22:40] <xales> the issue of resources will be there almost regardless of where you host it
#3797 [22:41] <xales> unless its a dedicated with more than 2gb of ram running unix
#3798 [22:41] <xales> however
#3799 [22:41] <xales> the problems with networking are the main reasons
#3800 [22:41] <xales> not to run em at home
#3801 [22:44] <Jackson413> thx guys it works
#3802 [22:44] * yarnwitch has 3 servers in the house, but even so...
#3802 [22:44] <yarnwitch> they aren't mine, so
#3803 [22:45] <yarnwitch> haha
#3804 [22:45] <xales> lol
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#3808 [22:47] <Phelps> Anyone know why I would get this error:
#3809 [22:47] <Phelps> 2010-12-25 16:44:19 [INFO] Disconnecting benphelps [/10.0.0.1:58682]: Failed to verify username!
#3810 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Is this a classic server? beta?
#3811 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any firewalls or security software that blocks java?
#3812 [22:48] <Phelps> its a beta server
#3813 [22:48] <Phelps> iptables is off
#3814 [22:48] <Phelps> DMZ on the server
#3815 [22:48] <xales> can you pastebin the server.properties?
#3816 [22:49] <Phelps> sure thing
#3817 [22:50] <Phelps> this has some hMod stuff in it, but I'm getting the same errors just running the plain server also
#3818 [22:50] <xales> ok
#3819 [22:50] <Phelps> http://pastie.org/1405890
#3820 [22:51] <Phelps> i have also tried 0.0.0.0 as the IP to bind to
#3821 [22:52] <Phelps> its running on a CentoOS 2.6.18-194.3.1.el5 server
#3822 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Are you connecting locally?
#3823 [22:52] <Phelps> yes, 10.0.0.144
#3824 [22:53] <Phelps> within the local network, so it never leaves the router
#3825 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Just.. wierd. Wonder why it's showing "10.0.0.1:58682"
#3826 [22:53] <Phelps> you want to try and connect to it
#3827 [22:53] <Phelps> i know its open to the internet
#3828 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> I suppose?
#3829 [22:54] <Phelps> mc1.rewiredhost.com:7000
#3830 [22:55] <xales> GreyVulpine: the outbound port is random
#3831 [22:55] <Phelps> sorry, its up now
#3832 [22:55] <xales> and the 10.0.0.1 is probably his ip
#3833 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> No, I mean, why is it showing him connecting from 10.0.0.1
#3834 [22:55] <xales> !check mc1.rewiredhost.com:7000
#3835 [22:55] <xales> GreyVulpine: could be because thats his IP?
#3836 [22:55] <Phelps> now that pisses me off right there
#3837 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> <Phelps> yes, 10.0.0.144
#3838 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> it's not
#3839 [22:56] <Phelps> its not letting me login
#3840 [22:56] <xales> GreyVulpine: thats the server IP I believe
#3841 [22:56] <xales> :P
#3842 [22:56] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3842 [22:56] <Kealper> 10.0? impossible...that entire block is reserved for internal networks
#3843 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Which it is
#3844 [22:57] <xales> ;)
#3845 [22:57] <Phelps> 2010-12-25 16:53:30 [INFO] GreyVulpine [/**.**.**.**:*****] logged in with entity id 1
#3846 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> You can show my IP, it's fine
#3847 [22:57] <Phelps> 2010-12-25 16:54:31 [INFO] Disconnecting benphelps [/10.0.0.1:58755]: Took too long to log in
#3848 [22:57] <Phelps> :/
#3849 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> How are you accessing your server right now?
#3850 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Are you physically at your server?
#3851 [22:58] <Phelps> I am at my mac, and my server is about 10 feet away
#3852 [22:58] <Phelps> the server is just a cmd line, cant really play it on that
#3853 [22:58] <Kealper> wait..wait....
#3854 [22:58] <Kealper> what are we trying to figure out?
#3855 [22:59] <Phelps> why it wont let me connect
#3856 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Why he can't connect to his server locally
#3857 [22:59] <Phelps> but people remotely can... isnt that fucked up ?
#3858 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Not necessarily.
#3859 [22:59] <Champ> localhost don't work?
#3860 [22:59] <Champ> thats off
#3861 [22:59] <Champ> odd*
#3862 [22:59] <Kealper> Phelps: have you tried the machine's internal ip instead of using your external to connect?
#3863 [22:59] <Phelps> yeah
#3864 [22:59] <Kealper> O.o
#3865 [22:59] <Phelps> thats the 10.0.0.144 address
#3866 [22:59] <Champ> i use localhost but ppl can connect to mine fine
#3867 [23:00] <Kealper> Champ: he's not hosting off his machine
#3868 [23:00] <Champ> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#3869 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Phelps, could you double check your server's ip, and yours?
#3870 [23:00] <Champ> kk
#3871 [23:00] <Phelps> 10.0.0.109 = me internal
#3872 [23:00] <Phelps> 10.0.0.144 = server internal
#3873 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> and 10.0.0.1 is your router.
#3874 [23:00] <Phelps> right
#3875 [23:00] <Kealper> wait....so it says that you took too long to log in..but it works fine for others?
#3876 [23:00] <Phelps> 74.197.148.232 = external
#3877 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Why.. is it showing you connecting from your router then
#3878 [23:00] <Phelps> right
#3879 [23:01] <Phelps> i also get this " Failed to verify username! "
#3880 [23:01] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: because he is connecting from his external and his router is doing a loopback
#3881 [23:01] <Kealper> Phelps: can you connect to other servers?
#3882 [23:01] <Phelps> yeah
#3883 [23:01] <Kealper> !paid benphelps
#3884 [23:02] <Kealper> that took a while
#3885 [23:02] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#3886 [23:02] <Kealper> hmm....
#3887 [23:02] <Kealper> !paid benphelps
#3888 [23:02] <Kealper> weird...w/e
#3889 [23:02] <Phelps> i have the reverse problem of most people...
#3890 [23:03] <Kealper> i wonder what the timeout is for minecraft....
#3891 [23:03] <Kealper> !paid GreyVulpine
#3892 [23:03] <Phelps> quite a while, i think about 30 seconds
#3893 [23:03] <Kealper> because other accounts return almost instantly, yours takes a few sec to return a result...
#3894 [23:03] <Kealper> well...
#3895 [23:03] <Kealper> nvm, that other one was just as fast...
#3896 [23:04] <Kealper> i'm at a loss...i have no idea why that would do it for just you lol
#3897 [23:04] <xales> Kealper
#3898 [23:04] <xales> i have an idea
#3899 [23:05] <xales> Phelps: try running the uninstall guide
#3900 [23:05] <xales> err
#3901 [23:05] <xales> following it
#3902 [23:05] <Kealper> took too long to log in usually means that the website took too long to verify that you paid or not and it timed out :S
#3903 [23:05] <xales> damn let me just rephrase that
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#3905 [23:05] <xales> Phelps: try following the reinstall guide (http://bit.ly/mc_faq) on your system
#3906 [23:05] <xales> not the server
#3907 [23:06] <Phelps> thats really out of date
#3908 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Phelps - Did you use 10.0.0.144 or 74.197.148.232 to connect?
#3909 [23:07] <Phelps> both, multiple times
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#3911 [23:09] <xales> Phelps: its not out of date
#3912 [23:09] <xales> it still applies
#3913 [23:09] <Phelps> nah
#3914 [23:09] <xales> it does, in fact
#3915 [23:09] <Phelps> files are saved in a different location now
#3916 [23:09] <xales> nope
#3917 [23:09] <xales> still appsupport
#3918 [23:09] <xales> :P
#3919 [23:09] <Phelps> well, I have no .minecraft folder
#3920 [23:09] <xales> did you follow the one for mac?
#3921 [23:09] <xales> ._.
#3922 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> ~/library/application support/minecraft?
#3923 [23:10] <Phelps> that isnt what the tutorial say, thats what i did though
#3924 [23:10] * GreyVulpine takes a look at faq.
#3924 [23:10] <Phelps> and it made no difference
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#3926 [23:12] * GreyVulpine pokes Phelps.
#3926 [23:12] <xales> case sensitive
#3927 [23:12] <xales> grey
#3928 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you do offline-mode=false in server.properties?
#3929 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> er
#3930 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> was that true.. or false
#3931 [23:12] <Phelps> the world implodes and we all die
#3932 [23:12] <Phelps> no, let me try
#3933 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> I meant true.
#3934 [23:12] <Phelps> it is set to true
#3935 [23:12] <Phelps> ohh wait
#3936 [23:13] <Phelps> offline-mode ?
#3937 [23:13] <xales> yes
#3938 [23:13] <Kealper> online-mode=false
#3939 [23:13] <Kealper> ?
#3940 [23:13] <Phelps> online-mode=true
#3941 [23:13] <Phelps> in my conf
#3942 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's what I meant
#3943 [23:13] <Kealper> set to false
#3944 [23:13] <Kealper> restart server
#3945 [23:13] <Phelps> it lets me in
#3946 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Well then. um
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#3948 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> There's something screwy with your connection?
#3949 [23:14] <Kealper> then something is indeed wonky with your server connecting to minecraft.net to verify your username when you connect
#3950 [23:14] <Phelps> now then, we need to find a donkey to punch
#3951 [23:14] <Kealper> lol
#3952 [23:15] <xales> Phelps
#3953 [23:15] <xales> go to this link in your browser
#3954 [23:15] <Phelps> yar
#3955 [23:15] <xales> http://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=benphelps
#3956 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> He's paid
#3957 [23:15] <xales> I know
#3958 [23:15] <Phelps> true
#3959 [23:15] <xales> but the server checks using that url
#3960 [23:15] <Kealper> but can he see that is the question
#3961 [23:16] <Kealper> what he said
#3962 [23:16] <xales> Phelps: can you try it on the server?
#3963 [23:16] <xales> wget
#3964 [23:16] <Phelps> yeah
#3965 [23:16] <Kealper> it should return true
#3966 [23:16] <xales> should contain true
#3967 [23:16] <xales> not return
#3968 [23:16] <xales> :P
#3969 [23:16] <Kealper> return..contain..same diff
#3970 [23:16] <Phelps> ok
#3971 [23:16] <Phelps> this is odd
#3972 [23:16] <Phelps> it took like
#3973 [23:17] <Phelps> 30 sec or more
#3974 [23:17] <Kealper> restart server?
#3975 [23:17] <Kealper> wait
#3976 [23:17] <xales> pastebin
#3977 [23:17] <xales> ps -aux
#3978 [23:17] <Kealper> just for craps and grins
#3979 [23:17] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=Kealper do that one
#3980 [23:17] <Phelps> ive reset the server twice
#3981 [23:17] <xales> reset or completely restarted?
#3982 [23:17] <Phelps> http://guide.opendns.com/?url=pastie%2Ecaboo%2Ese%2Fpastes%2Fcreate
#3983 [23:17] <Phelps> wtf
#3984 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Follow xales, what else do you have running on that server?
#3985 [23:18] <Phelps> hmm
#3986 [23:18] <Phelps> my irc plugin broke i guess
#3987 [23:18] <xales> GreyVulpine: nobody pinged me lately, I jumped when the bell rang >.>
#3988 [23:18] <xales> phelps
#3989 [23:18] <xales> ps -aux output please
#3990 [23:18] <xales> :D
#3991 [23:18] <Kealper> lol
#3992 [23:18] * GreyVulpine snickers
#3992 [23:18] <Phelps> http://pastie.org/1405920
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#3994 [23:19] <xales> nothing wrong there, looks like
#3995 [23:19] <xales> what is gam_server
#3996 [23:19] <Phelps> xales: ive restarted the server
#3997 [23:20] <Phelps> no idea
#3998 [23:20] <Phelps> let me kill it
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#4000 [23:21] <Phelps> it wgets the page fine
#4001 [23:21] <Phelps> though with my username it took like 40 sec the first time
#4002 [23:21] <xales> try connecting now
#4003 [23:21] <Phelps> Took too long to log in
#4004 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> With online set to true.
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#4006 [23:22] <xales> ^
#4007 [23:22] <Phelps> its set to true
#4008 [23:22] <killking72> how long does it take for my account to update if i bought minecraft with credit card?
#4009 [23:22] <xales> !premium
#4010 [23:22] * GreyVulpine stabs Kealper's bot
#4010 [23:22] <xales> !payment
#4011 [23:22] <Phelps> http://pastie.org/1405925
#4012 [23:22] <killking72> well damn
#4013 [23:23] <xales> though
#4014 [23:23] <xales> it shouldnt take more
#4015 [23:23] <xales> than a few minutes
#4016 [23:23] <Phelps> its plenty fast now
#4017 [23:23] <xales> you should investigate what gamserver is then
#4018 [23:23] <xales> especially given its funky location
#4019 [23:24] <xales> can you run "strings /usr/libexec/gam_server" and pastebin that?
#4020 [23:24] <Phelps> you want ALL of it ?
#4021 [23:24] <xales> hmm
#4022 [23:25] <xales> actually no
#4023 [23:25] <xales> lol
#4024 [23:25] <xales> ummm
#4025 [23:25] <Phelps> its 14kb worth
#4026 [23:25] <xales> hrm
#4027 [23:25] <xales> email it to me
#4028 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#4029 [23:25] <xales> xales@darksigns.net
#4030 [23:25] <xales> my hostmask, lolz
#4031 [23:26] <Phelps> http://benphelps.me/_code/string.txt
#4032 [23:27] <Phelps> i cant pickup anything out of it
#4033 [23:28] * xales did >.>
#4033 [23:28] <xales> uninstall the gamin package
#4034 [23:28] <xales> if nothing depends on it
#4035 [23:28] <Kealper> O.o
#4036 [23:28] <Phelps> that wont happen
#4037 [23:28] <Phelps> haha
#4038 [23:28] <Phelps> Removing for dependencies:
#4039 [23:28] <Phelps> gamin-python
#4040 [23:28] <Phelps> yum-updatesd
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#4042 [23:29] <Phelps> i didnt know yum anything used gamin
#4043 [23:29] <xales> oh
#4044 [23:29] <xales> yum depends it
#4045 [23:29] <xales> what the hell
#4046 [23:29] <xales> ._.
#4047 [23:29] <xales> well
#4048 [23:29] <xales> restart it when you need to use yum I guess
#4049 [23:29] <xales> otherwise leave it off
#4050 [23:29] <Phelps> uhh
#4051 [23:30] <Phelps> it just let me it :/
#4052 [23:30] <Phelps> GAMIN YOU POS
#4053 [23:30] <Phelps> WHAT ARE YOU DOING
#4054 [23:30] <Phelps> so
#4055 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Nevrak - Did you need something?
#4056 [23:30] <Phelps> killall gam_server a few times
#4057 [23:31] <Nevrak> I did, but I got it sorted out
#4058 [23:31] <xales> well then
#4059 [23:31] <xales> I guess you got it Phelps
#4060 [23:31] <xales> :)
#4061 [23:31] <Phelps> no
#4062 [23:31] <Nevrak> a couple seconds ago, I was going to ask about an issue I was having with connecting to multiplayer servers
#4063 [23:31] <Phelps> problem not solved
#4064 [23:31] <Phelps> i just got lucky
#4065 [23:31] <Phelps> or something
#4066 [23:32] <Nevrak> but I found out that the servers I was connecting to were down
#4067 [23:32] <Phelps> break it till it works isnt a solution
#4068 [23:32] <Nevrak> thanks anyway
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#4070 [23:32] <Phelps> was a one time thing
#4071 [23:33] <Phelps> disconnected and it broke again
#4072 [23:33] <xales> oh
#4073 [23:33] <xales> -_-
#4074 [23:33] <xales> hmm
#4075 [23:33] <Phelps> im going to restart my mac
#4076 [23:33] <Phelps> and restart the server
#4077 [23:33] <xales> whats your usename again?
#4078 [23:33] <xales> really quick
#4079 [23:33] <Phelps> benphelps
#4080 [23:33] <Phelps> and my router
#4081 [23:33] <xales> its not a problem with your mac
#4082 [23:33] <Phelps> and my modem
#4083 [23:33] <Phelps> and then go flip my break
#4084 [23:33] <Phelps> brekaer
#4085 [23:33] <Phelps> for good measure
#4086 [23:33] <Kealper> lol
#4087 [23:34] <Phelps> maybe even call hte power company
#4088 [23:34] <xales> lol
#4089 [23:34] <xales> the page loads fine for me
#4090 [23:34] <Phelps> ill fuckin restart everything
#4091 [23:34] <Phelps> brb-3min
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#4095 [23:37] <Phelps> 3 minutes on the dot
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#4097 [23:38] <xales> xD
#4098 [23:38] <Phelps> server is booting up
#4099 [23:39] <Phelps> worse case scenario, ill just reinstall centos.....
#4100 [23:39] <Phelps> this worked before
#4101 [23:39] <Phelps> just fine
#4102 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> You said you DMZ'd the server on the router?
#4103 [23:39] <Phelps> yeah
#4104 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding didn't work?
#4105 [23:40] <Phelps> im using DDWRT
#4106 [23:40] <Kealper> undo that and forward said port
#4107 [23:40] <Phelps> it does
#4108 [23:40] <Phelps> but i did DMZ to make sure NOTHING was in the way
#4109 [23:40] <Kealper> so it did it with forwarded port aswell?
#4110 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Still, DMZ only if NOTHING else works
#4111 [23:40] <Phelps> right
#4112 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Huh..
#4113 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> bah
#4114 [23:40] <Phelps> and iptables on worked too
#4115 [23:40] <Phelps> so i started by turning iptables off
#4116 [23:40] <Phelps> didnt work
#4117 [23:41] <Phelps> DMZ, didnt work
#4118 [23:41] <Xaviergmail> whar du ai download opengl
#4119 [23:41] <Phelps> same place you learn english
#4120 [23:41] <nipper> Well download a program that will open a port to test to see if its working like its spose to.
#4121 [23:42] <nipper> simple ftp or httpd program.
#4122 [23:42] <Phelps> people can connect to me, its just the other way around
#4123 [23:42] <Phelps> i cant connect local
#4124 [23:42] <Kealper> and it's not that he can't connect....it's that his server can't verify that he paid for the account....but only his server
#4125 [23:43] <Phelps> only my account **
#4126 [23:43] <Xaviergmail> where can i get opengl
#4127 [23:43] <Kealper> it takes his server ages to get a response..but only for his account...
#4128 [23:43] <Kealper> Xaviergmail: google
#4129 [23:43] <Xaviergmail> i did
#4130 [23:43] <Xaviergmail> opengl.org but where on tht thing
#4131 [23:43] <Phelps> too lazy to even lmgtfy Xaviergmail, gah
#4132 [23:43] <Kealper> lol
#4133 [23:43] <Kealper> Xaviergmail: your driver install should come with all the opengl libraries
#4134 [23:44] <Xaviergmail> my driver cd is outdated
#4135 [23:44] <Xaviergmail> :)
#4136 [23:44] * Kealper facepalms really hard
#4136 [23:44] <Kealper> google
#4137 [23:44] <Xaviergmail> no
#4138 [23:44] <Xaviergmail> i suck at googling
#4139 [23:44] <Kealper> omg
#4140 [23:44] <Kealper> computer model?
#4141 [23:45] <Xaviergmail> its a custom comp :d
#4142 [23:45] <Kealper> do you have a video card or are you using onboard graphics?
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#4144 [23:46] <nipper> Lol, Then list the parts.
#4145 [23:46] <Xaviergmail> video card
#4146 [23:46] <Kealper> ati or nvidia?
#4147 [23:47] <Xaviergmail> NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM v1.1)
#4148 [23:47] <Kealper> ok 5 sec
#4149 [23:47] <nipper> www.nvidia.com
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#4151 [23:47] <Xaviergmail> nowai
#4152 [23:47] <Wahrheit> I like the red in the message
#4153 [23:47] <Wahrheit> :)
#4154 [23:48] <Kealper> http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/Windows/260.99/260.99_desktop_win7_winvista_64bit_english_whql.exe&lang=us&type=GeForce
#4155 [23:49] <Phelps> woof woof
#4156 [23:49] <Phelps> i HATE screen
#4157 [23:49] <Phelps> i hate using screen as much as my problem
#4158 [23:49] <Kealper> aaannnndd....i'm afk
#4159 [23:50] <Phelps> well
#4160 [23:50] <Phelps> thanks for all the help
#4161 [23:51] <Phelps> but i think im just going to reinsall centos
#4162 [23:51] <Xaviergmail> Kealper
#4163 [23:51] <Xaviergmail> that doesen't work
#4164 [23:51] <Phelps> something is wrong with it
#4165 [23:51] * xales loves screen
#4165 [23:51] <xales> :\
#4166 [23:52] <xales> does centos use teh real screen though
#4167 [23:52] <Phelps> yeah
#4168 [23:52] <nipper> Xaviergmail what OS are you on?
#4169 [23:52] <Xaviergmail> w7
#4170 [23:52] <Xaviergmail> i mean
#4171 [23:52] <nipper> 64 or 32bit
#4172 [23:52] <Phelps> i just want scroll support in screen
#4173 [23:52] <Xaviergmail> dos
#4174 [23:52] <Xaviergmail> lol
#4175 [23:52] <Xaviergmail> w7 x64
#4176 [23:53] <Phelps> instead of scrolling my mouse spamming ^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A
#4177 [23:53] <nipper> this driver will work. http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-260.99-whql-driver.html
#4178 [23:54] <xales> err
#4179 [23:54] <xales> mouse?
#4180 [23:54] <xales> what ssh client supports the mouse
#4181 [23:54] <xales> lol
#4182 [23:54] <nipper> Most do for copy/
#4183 [23:55] <xales> no I mean
#4184 [23:55] <xales> they send it over the connection
#4185 [23:55] <xales> what does that? -.-
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#4187 [23:55] <nipper> you mean remote desktop.
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#4189 [23:56] <nipper> I mean do you mean remote desktop?
#4190 [23:56] <xales> oh
#4191 [23:56] <xales> no why would I
#4192 [23:56] <xales> its a linux machine
#4193 [23:56] <xales> with a mac client
#4194 [23:56] <xales> remote desktop is for windows
#4195 [23:58] <Phelps> idk
#4196 [23:58] <Phelps> click works in alot of things
#4197 [23:58] <Phelps> htop
#4198 [23:58] <Phelps> nano
#4199 [23:58] <Phelps> uhh
#4200 [23:58] <Phelps> setup
#4201 [23:58] <Phelps> havnt tried any others
#4202 [23:59] <xales> err
#4203 [23:59] <xales> oh
#4204 [23:59] <xales> curses supports mouse
#4205 [23:59] <xales> but not many clients
#4206 [23:59] <xales> -_-
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