#1 [00:00] <Phelps> whoops
#2 [00:00] <Phelps> lol
#3 [00:00] <xales> lol
#4 [00:00] <xales> what ssh client do you use?
#5 [00:00] <Phelps> the one that comes with osx
#6 [00:00] <Phelps> ssh in terminal
#7 [00:00] <xales> and that sends mousescroll/mouse clicks?
#8 [00:01] <xales> it shouldnt
#9 [00:01] <Phelps> yeah, it does
#10 [00:01] <xales> no, thats the openssh client. it doesnt have mouse support; for that matter I don't think terminal does
#11 [00:01] <xales> ._.
#12 [00:01] <xales> im on my mac right now too
#13 [00:02] <Phelps> well
#14 [00:03] <Phelps> one sec
#15 [00:03] <Phelps> i know why now
#16 [00:04] <Phelps> i cant find it
#17 [00:04] <Phelps> yeah
#18 [00:04] <Phelps> see
#19 [00:04] <Phelps> right here
#20 [00:05] <Phelps> http://benphelps.me/ss/1e9b01f5ad4e32b0e1140351f0d814ad.png
#21 [00:05] <Phelps> Send Mouse Events
#22 [00:07] <xales> oh
#23 [00:07] <xales> well then
#24 [00:07] <xales> turn it off, lol
#25 [00:11] <Phelps> why
#26 [00:11] <Phelps> i like clicking things
#27 [00:11] <xales> why do you need it
#28 [00:11] <xales> lol
#29 [00:11] <xales> then why are you using terminal
#30 [00:11] <Phelps> caus GUIs have too much overhead
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#33 [00:22] <spydogg> ok im new to minecraft and i was just wondering how i light a fernace with out a way to make fire
#34 [00:23] <xales> no way
#35 [00:23] <xales> you need coal
#36 [00:23] <xales> or wood
#37 [00:24] <xales> or a bucket of lava
#38 [00:24] <xales> ya know
#39 [00:24] <xales> or leave 20 seconds after asking your question
#40 [00:24] <xales> and fail to use google
#41 [00:24] <Cial> they are gone man
#42 [00:24] <Cial> they didnt get answered in one second
#43 [00:24] <xales> I know
#44 [00:25] <xales> I tend to not like talking to such people anyway
#45 [00:25] <xales> ive wanted to fake disconnect to get away from em before >.>
#46 [00:25] <Cial> i was gonna send him to the minecraft wiki
#47 [00:25] <xales> /part #minecrafthelp Quit: Client Exited ._.
#48 [00:25] <Cial> lol
#49 [00:25] <Cial> so what exactly has Miclee and Puyo at each others throats?
#50 [00:26] <Miclee> Oh, I'm thinking that unlike the OPs used to do, we should start enforcing rules.
#51 [00:26] <xales> Miclee: its kind of a bad idea to have it be minecraft-only
#52 [00:26] <xales> because it never will be
#53 [00:26] <Miclee> xales, not minecraft-only
#54 [00:26] <xales> and then it will be quiet all day
#55 [00:26] <Miclee> Minecraft chat takes presidence.
#56 [00:27] <xales> oh
#57 [00:27] <xales> I thought it was minecraft-only
#58 [00:27] <xales> even so
#59 [00:27] <xales> people will have more than 1 conversation going on
#60 [00:27] <Cial> Miclee, well i see someone was listening when i was ranting about ops not being assed to do anything
#61 [00:27] <xales> Miclee isn't one of those ops
#62 [00:28] <Cial> i think they are talking about having a rule like in here where questions take priority rather than random shit
#63 [00:28] <Miclee> Half of the time when you used to ping an OP because of a problem, they would rage at you.
#64 [00:28] <xales> *cough* possible the only one *cough*
#65 [00:28] <xales> Cial: there isn't?
#66 [00:28] <Cial> in #minecraft not that im aware of
#67 [00:28] <Miclee> Anyways, I'll talk to jeb tomorrow, I guess
#68 [00:29] <xales> its enforced, somewhat
#69 [00:29] <Miclee> or tonight, if he comes on in the next few hours.
#70 [00:29] <xales> kinda
#71 [00:29] <Cial> but yea like i said last rant the only time the ops do anything is if you ping them while they are on or if their flood detection kicks on
#72 [00:29] <Cial> or if they are actually participating in the conversation
#73 [00:30] <xales> flood detection
#74 [00:30] <xales> none of em have that
#75 [00:30] <xales> lol
#76 [00:30] <xales> Cial: even then, they often do nothing
#77 [00:30] <Miclee> Whenever I see Quatro on, he just kicks whoever the fuck he likes
#78 [00:30] <Cial> true
#79 [00:30] <Miclee> I rarely see him kicking people spamming or breaking actual rules.
#80 [00:30] <Cial> quatro is an ass half the time anyway
#81 [00:30] <Cial> has been as long as ive been here
#82 [00:31] <xales> I don't mind quatro too much; he isn't an ass to me
#83 [00:31] <xales> however, he is an ass to some people
#84 [00:31] <xales> but not entirely without cause
#85 [00:31] <Cial> truewolves i know has some scripts active but he is rarely on anymore
#86 [00:31] <xales> I havent seen him
#87 [00:31] <xales> since I came on here
#88 [00:31] <xales> probably a month ago
#89 [00:31] <xales> if not more
#90 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> He's the one who made me op a month or two ago
#91 [00:31] <Cial> oh hi there
#92 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#93 [00:31] <xales> hey Grey
#94 [00:32] <Cial> dont mind us we are just plotting a cou
#95 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> coup?
#96 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#97 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> You and what army?
#98 [00:32] <xales> me!
#99 [00:32] <Cial> the logical thinkers
#100 [00:32] <Cial> so thats like
#101 [00:32] <xales> everyone loves xales ._.
#102 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> A whole two people
#103 [00:32] * Cial counts
#103 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> Woo
#104 [00:32] <Cial> 5?
#105 [00:33] <Cial> maybe
#106 [00:33] <Cial> im actually not involved with the coup im just a neutral third party observer
#107 [00:33] <Cial> or at least as far as i know i am
#108 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> The unseen mastermind behind the whole plot?
#109 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Come to reap the rewards, with none of the work?
#110 [00:34] <Cial> no
#111 [00:34] <xales> I am secretly
#112 [00:34] <Cial> i want no part of ruling that channel
#113 [00:34] <xales> plotting to take over #minecraft
#114 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> Or just going to make xales do all the work.
#115 [00:34] <xales> somehow
#116 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> And sit back with a bucket of popcorn
#117 [00:34] <xales> chanserv, fuck you man. ruining my fun
#118 [00:34] <xales> brbdffdg
#119 [00:34] <xales> everone makes me do the work
#120 [00:34] <Cial> hmm well xales does make a good puppet
#121 [00:34] <xales> fu
#122 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#123 [00:35] * Cial tugs a string to make xales hit himself
#123 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> And that is how you defuse a coup before it begins.. pit one against the other.
#124 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> :)
#125 [00:35] <xales> ._.
#126 [00:35] <Cial> heh like i said im just The Observer
#127 [00:35] * xales begins plotting for the next netsplit...
#127 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, esper netsplits enough without active intervention
#128 [00:36] <The_Observer> shite
#129 [00:36] <xales> lol
#130 [00:36] <The_Observer> how to register a nick again this one came unregistered?
#131 [00:36] <xales> err
#132 [00:36] <xales> just link it to your nick
#133 [00:37] <xales> ident to your main nick and just msg nickserv "link the_observer"
#134 [00:37] <The_Observer> oh?
#135 [00:37] <Cial> cool
#136 [00:37] <Cial> thanks
#137 [00:37] <The_Observer> this is also the name of my Minecraft alt account
#138 [00:38] <Miclee> Perfect example of what needs to be fixed is right now
#139 [00:38] <Miclee> They're talking of 4chan while someone needs help.
#140 [00:38] <xales> Miclee: +m
#141 [00:38] <xales> "STOP THE 4CHAN NOW OR KICKS"
#142 [00:38] <xales> -m
#143 [00:38] <Miclee> xales, 99% of people bitch about +m
#144 [00:39] <xales> I mean put it on for 2 seconds
#145 [00:39] <xales> so they have to read what you say
#146 [00:39] <xales> then turn it off
#147 [00:39] <Miclee> They still bitch
#148 [00:39] <xales> let them
#149 [00:39] <xales> they bitch about kicks too
#150 [00:39] <xales> or kick them if they bitch
#151 [00:40] <Xaviergmail> omg
#152 [00:40] <feenyx> just do a channel wipe twice a day
#153 [00:40] <Xaviergmail> dis is true i can use cartographer
#154 [00:40] <The_Observer> the last time i bitched about a -m in minecraft
#155 [00:40] <Xaviergmail> i iz on windows
#156 [00:40] <Xaviergmail> :d
#157 [00:40] <feenyx> and auto-ban the autorejoiners
#158 [00:40] <The_Observer> Xaviergmail, what?
#159 [00:40] <The_Observer> proper english please
#160 [00:40] <Xaviergmail> nowai
#161 [00:41] <The_Observer> talk like you have a brain please
#162 [00:41] <Xaviergmail> i can ooze cartographer
#163 [00:41] <Xaviergmail> nowai brutha
#164 [00:41] <Xaviergmail> dis iz leet
#165 [00:41] <The_Observer> then get out
#166 [00:41] <Xaviergmail> nou
#167 [00:41] <The_Observer> im not gonna strain my self this late in the evening trying to figure out what you are talking about
#168 [00:42] <The_Observer> and yes Cartographer works on windows
#169 [00:42] <The_Observer> by the way thats not leet thats lol speak
#170 [00:42] <Xaviergmail> ok
#171 [00:42] <Xaviergmail> lul
#172 [00:42] <feenyx> chanspeak
#173 [00:42] <Xaviergmail> dis iz still leet
#174 [00:42] <The_Observer> it shows you have no brain
#175 [00:43] <Xaviergmail> nowai
#176 [00:43] <feenyx> d15 i5 d4 pr0p3r 1337, f0 sh1zzl3
#177 [00:43] <The_Observer> gah
#178 [00:43] <feenyx> now behave and pose your query
#179 [00:43] <The_Observer> my eyes
#180 [00:43] <Xaviergmail> n0w41 br0 1 113k 2 5p43k l13k d15
#181 [00:43] <xales> /kick
#182 [00:44] <Xaviergmail> voices cant do anythinhg
#183 [00:44] <Xaviergmail> :D
#184 [00:44] <feenyx> no, but teasing them is
#185 [00:44] <Xaviergmail> nowai
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#187 [00:44] <Xaviergmail> dis iz a hooge plot isnt it?
#188 [00:44] <xales> voices
#189 [00:44] <xales> can call ops
#190 [00:44] <Xaviergmail> 3 voicez versuszor one
#191 [00:44] <xales> taunting me will get you banned
#192 [00:45] <xales> we can still tell you to behave
#193 [00:45] <Xaviergmail> normalzor person
#194 [00:45] <Xaviergmail> I can callz0r 0p t00
#195 [00:45] <The_Observer> could you please type like you have a brain?
#196 [00:45] <xales> whether the warning comes from an op or not, its still a warning which you disregard
#197 [00:45] <Xaviergmail> ok......
#198 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#199 [00:45] <Xaviergmail> so
#200 [00:45] <Miclee> So xales is showing that he blatantly disregards the rules.
#201 [00:46] <Miclee> Drakkar*
#202 [00:46] * feenyx watches in anticipation
#202 [00:46] <Miclee> I was reading xales as I typed
#203 [00:46] * Xaviergmail warns xales to stop warning me else he will get kicked!
#203 [00:46] <xales> ok Xaviergmail
#204 [00:46] <xales> good luck with that
#205 [00:46] <Xaviergmail> who the f is drakkar
#206 [00:46] <Buzzinator> lol I'm back.... I read that I just put "world1" on the level-name line... but I can't find that line in my .properties file
#207 [00:46] <feenyx> Buzzinator: did you actually start the game to generate one first?
#208 [00:47] <Buzzinator> yeah, it just gave me the default classic one
#209 [00:47] <xales> Buzzinator: put world=world1
#210 [00:48] <xales> or just rename world1 to world
#211 [00:48] <Buzzinator> kk lemme see if it works
#212 [00:52] <Buzzinator> well I get the classic map again, but my server seems to be running normally from what I see when I ran the .bat file
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#214 [00:53] <Xaviergmail> o
#215 [00:53] <Xaviergmail> i just realised dis is #minecrafthelp
#216 [00:53] <Xaviergmail> lul
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#220 [00:59] <shmoo> i have one very imprtant question
#221 [00:59] <The_Observer> ask away
#222 [00:59] <shmoo> how do you get online?
#223 [00:59] <Mushuukyou> I have a question: I just paid for this thing, but it's giving me the beta version without the map. I want to download the alpha version because it appears more advanced. However, when I try to load a pak, it doesn't give me all the features. What do you guys use?
#224 [01:00] <The_Observer> in beta shmoo ?
#225 [01:00] <shmoo> yes
#226 [01:00] <shmoo> is it not up yet -_-
#227 [01:00] <The_Observer> http://servers.minecraftforum.net/ <-- is a server list
#228 [01:00] <shmoo> how do you create your own?
#229 [01:00] <Mushuukyou> I like the alpha version... but do the extra paks work with that? I got this one pak, "shortstuf" pak, and it shows what an item is by hovering over it, and I really liked that.
#230 [01:00] <xales> err
#231 [01:01] <xales> beta = newer alpha
#232 [01:01] <The_Observer> oh you have to go to the downloads page on minecraft.net and get it shmoo
#233 [01:01] <Mushuukyou> if beta is newer alpha, why doesn't it show the map
#234 [01:01] <xales> also, beta does that
#235 [01:01] <xales> Mushuukyou: show what map?
#236 [01:01] <Mushuukyou> the minimap
#237 [01:01] <Mushuukyou> and zoom feature
#238 [01:01] <Mushuukyou> is beta supposed to have everything alpha does?
#239 [01:02] <shmoo> i did that and i got the ip adressand everything but i cannot connect to my own serever
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#241 [01:02] <Mushuukyou> shmoo, you sure your firewall/proxy isn't blocking anything?
#242 [01:02] <shmoo> yes
#243 [01:02] <Mushuukyou> what happens when you try to connect
#244 [01:02] <shmoo> checked many times
#245 [01:03] <shmoo> it says server connection timed out
#246 [01:03] <Mushuukyou> ok for some reason it's not reaching it, not sure
#247 [01:03] <Mushuukyou> these guys probably know mroe than me on this game
#248 [01:04] <The_Observer> Mushuukyou, thats a mod probably and it may not be working with beta
#249 [01:04] <Mushuukyou> so beta 1.1_02 > alpha 1.26 ?
#250 [01:04] <The_Observer> correct
#251 [01:04] <Mushuukyou> is there something I can use so I can see what the items are
#252 [01:04] <Mushuukyou> that mod let me do that in alpha
#253 [01:04] <The_Observer> there are names that hover over the blocks in you inventory when you hover your mouse over them
#254 [01:05] <Mushuukyou> also why is there no minimap in the latest beta
#255 [01:05] <xales> oh
#256 [01:05] <xales> the minimap
#257 [01:05] <xales> would be a mod
#258 [01:05] <The_Observer> there was never a mini map in alpha
#259 [01:05] <xales> alpha didn't have that
#260 [01:05] <Mushuukyou> ohhh ok
#261 [01:05] <The_Observer> it was a mod like i said
#262 [01:05] <Mushuukyou> alright
#263 [01:05] <Mushuukyou> do you recommend a mod for beta
#264 [01:05] <shmoo> so how do i create my own server?
#265 [01:06] <xales> shmoo: http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#266 [01:06] <Mushuukyou> ok you're right the latest version shows stuff when I hover, I was confused on that
#267 [01:06] <The_Observer> Mushuukyou, Risugami and 303 make some good mods
#268 [01:06] <Mushuukyou> so I guess the map is what I'm after
#269 [01:06] <The_Observer> but we are not really supposed to offer mod help here
#270 [01:06] <Mushuukyou> ok np I won't ask
#271 [01:06] <Mushuukyou> thanks
#272 [01:07] <The_Observer> Mushuukyou, Zans minimap might have been updated
#273 [01:07] <Mushuukyou> alright thank you sir
#274 [01:07] <The_Observer> look in http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=25
#275 [01:07] <Mushuukyou> does the 3d shit really work?
#276 [01:07] <Mushuukyou> I need glasses :(
#277 [01:07] <Mushuukyou> thanks observer
#278 [01:07] <xales> depends on your monitor
#279 [01:07] <xales> some work
#280 [01:07] <xales> some dont
#281 [01:08] <The_Observer> it hurts my eyes
#282 [01:08] <Mushuukyou> :)
#283 [01:08] <Mushuukyou> I have a 24" gateway widescreen
#284 [01:08] <Mushuukyou> hopefully it'll work
#285 [01:08] <The_Observer> after like 10 minuets i have to stop
#286 [01:08] <Mushuukyou> oh, do you have a tough time with FPS games too
#287 [01:08] <Mushuukyou> or just this 3D
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#290 [01:08] <The_Observer> just red and blue 3D
#291 [01:08] <Mushuukyou> this game is hella addictive
#292 [01:09] <Mushuukyou> do you think it'll replace Wurm Online?
#293 [01:09] <The_Observer> well Notch used to work on wurm
#294 [01:09] <Mushuukyou> oh nice
#295 [01:09] <Mushuukyou> I hate wurm
#296 [01:09] <The_Observer> and its getting really popular
#297 [01:09] <Mushuukyou> I hate the guy runnin' it
#298 [01:09] <Mushuukyou> Well I plastered MC all over my FB
#299 [01:09] <The_Observer> yea i haven't heard much good about him
#300 [01:09] <Xaviergmail> what color is the usb 3.0 plastic?
#301 [01:10] <The_Observer> blue isnt it
#302 [01:10] <The_Observer> or do you mean inside the connector
#303 [01:11] <xales> plastic connector
#304 [01:11] <xales> ?
#305 [01:11] <The_Observer> the inside of USB cables have plastic in the connectors under the contacts
#306 [01:12] <xales> really
#307 [01:12] <xales> thats stupid
#308 [01:12] <xales> -_-
#309 [01:12] <The_Observer> at least i think its plastic
#310 [01:12] <xales> well
#311 [01:12] <The_Observer> take a look
#312 [01:12] <xales> why would the color matter
#313 [01:12] <xales> anyway
#314 [01:12] * The_Observer shrugs
#314 [01:12] <Xaviergmail> sorry keyboard died
#315 [01:13] <The_Observer> nice
#316 [01:13] <The_Observer> on screen keyboard?
#317 [01:13] <Xaviergmail> me using onscreen keeyboard
#318 [01:13] <Xaviergmail> yes
#319 [01:13] <The_Observer> have fun
#320 [01:14] <shmoo> ok i have no idea why my online server isnt coming up
#321 [01:14] <xales> have fun typing in leet now Xaviergmail
#322 [01:14] <xales> shmoo: did you port forward?
#323 [01:14] <shmoo> some1 should totally help me
#324 [01:14] <shmoo> yes
#325 [01:14] <shmoo> i unblocked everything
#326 [01:14] <shmoo> and got my ip
#327 [01:15] <shmoo> and server code
#328 [01:15] <xales> you can't unblock everything; you can only add 1 port at a time im fairly certain
#329 [01:15] <xales> portforward.com
#330 [01:15] <Xaviergmail> y did keyboard diee?
#331 [01:15] <xales> Xaviergmail: stfu
#332 [01:15] <Xaviergmail> y?
#333 [01:15] <Xaviergmail> im using onscreen keyboard
#334 [01:16] <Xaviergmail> u shut up
#335 [01:16] <xales> make me
#336 [01:16] <shmoo> ok some1 else should see if they can connect to my serever
#337 [01:16] <Buzzinator> xales, can I repost my question earlier? you never responded :P
#338 [01:16] <Mushuukyou> night and day always like this?
#339 [01:16] <xales> sorry
#340 [01:16] <Mushuukyou> short?
#341 [01:16] <xales> go ahead
#342 [01:16] <xales> Mushuukyou: 10 minutes each
#343 [01:16] <Mushuukyou> ok
#344 [01:17] <shmoo> 75.165.52.95:25565
#345 [01:17] <Buzzinator> well, I think I'm doing something wrong in terms of connecting to my own server.... cause server looks like it's running fine when I ran the .bat file but I still got the classic mode
#346 [01:17] <shmoo> does that look like a correct id
#347 [01:17] <xales> !check 75.165.52.95
#348 [01:17] <xales> shmoo: you didn't port forward properly
#349 [01:18] <xales> Buzzinator: what do you mean
#350 [01:18] <shmoo> what does that even mean
#351 [01:18] <xales> you have to run the beta server, from the beta client
#352 [01:18] <xales> shmoo: I asked you if you port forwarded, you said yes
#353 [01:18] <shmoo> i have beta
#354 [01:18] <xales> you need to do that
#355 [01:18] <Buzzinator> yeah I got a little confused when I read the tutorial on the forums
#356 [01:18] <Xaviergmail> 32sxdsds woot it works
#357 [01:18] <xales> portforward.com shmoo
#358 [01:18] <shmoo> but what does that mean?
#359 [01:18] <xales> Buzzinator: do you want a classic server or beta server
#360 [01:18] <Xaviergmail> omg
#361 [01:18] <shmoo> i went there
#362 [01:18] <xales> shmoo: it means you need to go to portforward.com
#363 [01:18] <Xaviergmail> now my mouse isnt working
#364 [01:18] <Xaviergmail> wtf
#365 [01:18] <Buzzinator> beta
#366 [01:18] <xales> and follow the instructions
#367 [01:18] <shmoo> i did
#368 [01:18] <xales> then you didn't do it right
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#370 [01:19] <Xaviergmail> I think a port died
#371 [01:19] <xales> sadly, that is not something I can help you with
#372 [01:20] <shmoo> so do i have to buy the automatic port thingy
#373 [01:20] <Buzzinator> just to clarify... do I type in 127.0.0.1 when I click "multiplayer"?
#374 [01:20] <feenyx> Buzzinator: you and only you
#375 [01:20] <xales> no
#376 [01:20] <xales> shmoo
#377 [01:20] <xales> you jsut need to follow the instructions
#378 [01:20] <shmoo> y must it be so difficult to make a serever
#379 [01:21] <feenyx> everyone else will need to type either the LAN ip, if they're on your network, or your WAN ip (whatsmyip.com) to connect
#380 [01:21] <shmoo> ok
#381 [01:21] <xales> your lucky its this easy
#382 [01:21] <xales> ._.
#383 [01:21] <Buzzinator> I'm reading otherwise in this tutorial o.O... says I just give them my "externalurl"
#384 [01:22] <feenyx> hosting a server of any kind is a kind of techy thing. Why would you assume doing something people get paid good money to do, is every so easy that anyone could do it? )
#385 [01:23] <shmoo> too confusing -_-
#386 [01:23] <Xaviergmail> ok
#387 [01:23] <Xaviergmail> so before my keybaord died we were talking about colors of usb sticks thingy
#388 [01:23] <Xaviergmail> inside the metal connector of a 3,0, it's blue right?
#389 [01:24] <The_Observer> the metal
#390 [01:24] <Xaviergmail> the plastic thing
#391 [01:24] <Xaviergmail> white = 1.0 black = 2.0
#392 [01:24] <The_Observer> o yea i think blue
#393 [01:24] <Xaviergmail> blue = 3.0
#394 [01:24] <Xaviergmail> red = ?
#395 [01:24] <The_Observer> one i saw was blue
#396 [01:26] <The_Observer> dunno never seen red
#397 [01:26] <Xaviergmail> hmm
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#399 [01:37] <Xaviergmail> Cial: http://i54.tinypic.com/hstc00.jpg
#400 [01:38] <Cial> hm?
#401 [01:38] <sinedeviance> hi all
#402 [01:38] <Cial> oh thats cool
#403 [01:38] <Cial> but thats a usb 2.0 probably
#404 [01:38] <sinedeviance> anybody know of any autocart-style client-side mods that support the new beta client?
#405 [01:39] <Cial> never seen a sandisk flash drive with that tip though
#406 [01:39] <sinedeviance> (yes, i know this channel doesnt provide mod support. i'm not asking for support with a mod. just asking if anyone knows of one.)
#407 [01:39] <Cial> um not unless autocart is updated
#408 [01:39] <Xaviergmail> how do u know its sandisk
#409 [01:39] <Cial> it said so on the side
#410 [01:40] <Cial> its not fuzzy enough to keep me from noticing
#411 [01:40] <Xaviergmail> u haz pro eyes or wut
#412 [01:40] <Cial> pro
#413 [01:40] <Xaviergmail> pro
#414 [01:40] * Cial puts on his cool shades
#414 [01:40] <Xaviergmail> (H)
#415 [01:41] <sinedeviance> <Cial> um not unless autocart is updated <-- autocart isnt the only one that provides the function, there were a couple other mods i know of but they either havent been updated or only support SMP.
#416 [01:41] <Cial> oh.. didnt know that
#417 [01:41] <Cial> i never kept up with minecart mods
#418 [01:41] <Cial> i just use the booster bug
#419 [01:42] <sinedeviance> yeah, i did too before autocart came along. now i'm spoiled :(
#420 [01:42] <Cial> lol
#421 [01:42] <sinedeviance> oh wells. boosters it is :D
#422 [01:43] <Xaviergmail> minecart?
#423 [01:43] <Xaviergmail> o
#424 [01:43] <Xaviergmail> mods sucks
#425 [01:43] <Xaviergmail> glitches pwns
#426 [01:44] <Xaviergmail> i wish I had ennough iron
#427 [01:44] <Xaviergmail> :d
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#430 [01:48] <tank8465> anyone versed in running minecraft in linux, need help
#431 [01:49] <tank8465> ?
#432 [01:49] <xales> whats the problem
#433 [01:50] <sinedeviance> tank8465: yeah, whats up?
#434 [01:50] <sinedeviance> tank8465: client or server? also, what distro? i386 or amd64?
#435 [01:50] <tank8465> i'm trying to launch minecraft using java -jar Minecraft.jar and I keep getting some weird terminal output, looks like its raising an exception
#436 [01:50] <sinedeviance> tank8465: can you pastebin it for us?
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#438 [01:51] <sinedeviance> tank8465: also, make sure you have sun-java6-jre installed if you're on a debian derivative. for redhat derivatives i dunno what package you'd need.
#439 [01:51] <Mushuukyou> ddue
#440 [01:51] <Mushuukyou> did I really lose all my shit when I died?
#441 [01:51] <Mushuukyou> wtf
#442 [01:51] <sinedeviance> Mushuukyou: yep.
#443 [01:52] <xales> if you get back to it fast enough
#444 [01:52] <xales> it will be there
#445 [01:52] <Mushuukyou> son of a
#446 [01:52] <tank8465> its a homespun ubuntu derivative i'm using, hold on, let me paste bin the stuff
#447 [01:52] <sinedeviance> Mushuukyou: if you can run back to where you died fast enough, you can pick everything back up.
#448 [01:52] <sinedeviance> tank8465: homespun? interesting. could you elaborate?
#449 [01:52] <Mushuukyou> i was blind, stuck in an f'n hole
#450 [01:52] <xales> :(
#451 [01:52] <sinedeviance> Mushuukyou: did you have sand or gravel drop on you?
#452 [01:52] <Mushuukyou> i need to find out how to make a damn storage box
#453 [01:52] <tank8465> sinedeviance: its the ubuntu minimal packages, running fluxbox
#454 [01:52] <Mushuukyou> no
#455 [01:53] <Mushuukyou> zombie
#456 [01:53] <sinedeviance> Mushuukyou: take wood planks, make a box in the workbench.
#457 [01:53] <tank8465> and I do have java.
#458 [01:53] <sinedeviance> Mushuukyou: ahh. sucks.
#459 [01:53] <sinedeviance> tank8465: cool, interesting combo. i did the same thing with ubuntu minimal and openbox before crunchbang came out
#460 [01:53] <xales> Mushuukyou: minecraftwiki.net
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#462 [01:54] <xales> also, make sure that its sun java not an open source one
#463 [01:54] <xales> and pastebin the output please :)
#464 [01:54] <dtk> Hello There!
#465 [01:54] <sinedeviance> Mushuukyou: try this link too -> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting
#466 [01:54] <xales> hello dtk
#467 [01:54] <sinedeviance> hi dtk
#468 [01:54] <Mushuukyou> Thanks
#469 [01:54] <Mushuukyou> just lost everything
#470 [01:54] <sinedeviance> Mushuukyou: don't worry, you'll get used to it :D dont feel bad either; one time i lost 20 diamonds.
#471 [01:55] <sinedeviance> Mushuukyou: for reference, sometimes it takes HOURS to get 20 diamonds D:
#472 [01:55] <dtk> I bought Minecraft for my son for Christmas and registered under my name and email. Is there a way that I can change this information?
#473 [01:55] <Mushuukyou> dude it's hella hard to find cole
#474 [01:55] <sinedeviance> dtk: not currently. you can try emailing mojang
#475 [01:55] <sinedeviance> dtk: don't expect much to happen though; it usually doesn't.
#476 [01:55] <sinedeviance> dtk: in the future, buy a gift code.
#477 [01:55] <dtk> Okay....I'll try that. Yes, you're right. I should have....
#478 [01:56] <Phelps> xales: i just installed ubuntu, centos pissed me
#479 [01:56] <Phelps> pissed me off *
#480 [01:56] <tank8465> sinedeviance:http://pastebin.com/Crw3Bn0N
#481 [01:56] <sinedeviance> dtk: it's okay, don't feel bad about it. this is kind of confusing to new players.
#482 [01:56] <xales> Phelps: :)
#483 [01:56] <Phelps> if I get the same problem, im gonna kill some fools
#484 [01:56] <Phelps> somewhere
#485 [01:56] <Phelps> and then kick a donkey
#486 [01:57] <xales> lol
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#488 [01:57] <sinedeviance> tank8465: do this --> sudo update-alternatives --java
#489 [01:57] <sinedeviance> tank8465: i think thats the command. make sure sun-java6-jre is on the list and it's selected.
#490 [01:58] <tank8465> sudo update-alternatives
#491 [01:58] <sinedeviance> tank8465: also, make sure you have official videocard drivers installed. it looks like it may be choking on OpenGL
#492 [01:59] <tank8465> sinedeviance: when I do update-alternatives, i get its usage page
#493 [01:59] <xales> sinedeviance: its choking on awt, so its probably an issue with java
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#495 [01:59] <sinedeviance> xales: yeah
#496 [01:59] <xales> tank8465: apt-get install sun-java6-jre
#497 [01:59] <sinedeviance> tank8465: sudo update-alternatives --all
#498 [01:59] <tank8465> sinedeviance, xales should I purge java beforehand?
#499 [02:00] <xales> no
#500 [02:00] <sinedeviance> tank8465: just leave all the non-java-releated alternatives as they are.
#501 [02:00] <xales> once you install it just run sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
#502 [02:00] <sinedeviance> tank8465: oh btw, before trying to install java, make sure you uncomment universe and multiverse from the software repos
#503 [02:00] <sinedeviance> it's not in the default repos anymore
#504 [02:01] <sinedeviance> and then do what xales said
#505 [02:01] <sinedeviance> after that try running minecraft again
#506 [02:02] <tank8465> xales sinedeviance thanks guys, seems to be working
#507 [02:02] <xales> :)
#508 [02:02] <sinedeviance> tank8465: have fun!
#509 [02:02] <xales> glad to help you
#510 [02:02] <xales> enjoy the game
#511 [02:02] <sinedeviance> ^this
#512 [02:02] <sinedeviance> it's an awesome game :D
#513 [02:02] <tank8465> lol been enjoying it
#514 [02:02] <tank8465> im hosting a server on a spare netbook
#515 [02:02] <sinedeviance> tank8465: netbook? D:
#516 [02:03] <tank8465> i just formatted my comp though
#517 [02:03] <sinedeviance> tank8465: some food for thought -- unlike other games, minecraft needs a pretty beefy server
#518 [02:03] <xales> they fixed some ram stuff recently, it will still need 1gb, but it wont use it 24/7
#519 [02:03] <tank8465> not when only 2 people are playing
#520 [02:03] <sinedeviance> i ran my minecraft server on a 3ghz pentium 4 prescott w/ 2gb of RAM running my own custom linux server and it was still slow
#521 [02:03] <xales> minecraft server sucks ass
#522 [02:03] <xales> java sucks too
#523 [02:03] <sinedeviance> <tank8465> not when only 2 people are playing <-- true. we had a playercap of 10 on mine.
#524 [02:04] <sinedeviance> ^this
#525 [02:04] <tank8465> aye
#526 [02:04] <xales> add em together and you have total shitstorm
#527 [02:04] <sinedeviance> yeah
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#529 [02:04] <tank8465> yeah, this server is just me and a friend of mine
#530 [02:04] <sinedeviance> yeah
#531 [02:04] <sinedeviance> btw, linux is best for minecraft servers :D
#532 [02:04] <tank8465> linux is best for any server
#533 [02:04] <tank8465> lol
#534 [02:04] <sinedeviance> true
#535 [02:05] <tank8465> shit if it wasnt for the fact that command lines make people vomit, linux is the best for anything
#536 [02:05] <sinedeviance> commandlines dont make me vomit.
#537 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> <3 for command lines
#538 [02:05] <tank8465> well, common people that don't even know what IRC is.
#539 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Well, duh
#540 [02:05] <tank8465> :P
#541 [02:05] <sinedeviance> i wish we used linux servers at work. but alas, we use microsoft dynamics CRM, so fucking EVERYTHING has to run IIS
#542 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Ew
#543 [02:06] <sinedeviance> GreyVulpine: there is a plus side to it
#544 [02:06] <sinedeviance> whenever it breaks we get to call microsoft, bitch, and bill them for time lost.
#545 [02:06] <xales> they really pay those bills?
#546 [02:06] <xales> :O
#547 [02:06] <sinedeviance> yep
#548 [02:06] <xales> guess their billions must go somewhere
#549 [02:06] <tank8465> thats hot
#550 [02:06] <sinedeviance> they paid my company $8000 last month for downtime
#551 [02:07] <xales> total time lost due to windows: $11billion
#552 [02:07] <xales> lol
#553 [02:07] <tank8465> lmao
#554 [02:07] <sinedeviance> then again, the CRM cluster was down a lot last month :
#555 [02:07] <sinedeviance> :\
#556 [02:07] <tank8465> i just realized
#557 [02:07] <tank8465> i never got wireless running on this thing
#558 [02:07] <tank8465> rofl
#559 [02:08] <xales> "down" ;)
#560 [02:08] <xales> they like giving away money
#561 [02:08] <xales> therefor, the flaws must be intentional
#562 [02:08] <xales> >.>
#563 [02:09] <tank8465> kk wireless up
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#565 [02:12] <FTheWorld> hello?
#566 [02:12] <xales> hello
#567 [02:13] <FTheWorld> help please
#568 [02:13] <xales> with what?
#569 [02:13] <FTheWorld> i got a new computer and i wont let me play minecraft
#570 [02:13] <xales> what happens when you try to play
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#572 [02:13] <FTheWorld> it says minecraft beta at the top and the game wont pop up
#573 [02:14] <xales> upgrade graphics card drivers
#574 [02:14] <FTheWorld> how?
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#576 [02:14] <sinedeviance> wow, that was fun :\
#577 [02:14] <sinedeviance> xales: btw, the reason they have to pay US, is because we retain some MSCE CRM specialists. i.e. we already pay their guys to keep the server up and running, so when it does go down, it's truly microsoft's fault.
#578 [02:14] <FTheWorld> ?
#579 [02:14] <xales> sinedeviance: oh
#580 [02:14] <xales> FTheWorld: sorry
#581 [02:14] <xales> erm
#582 [02:14] <xales> is it an nvidia card or ati?
#583 [02:14] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: internets suck
#584 [02:14] <FTheWorld> hp?
#585 [02:15] <xales> hp?
#586 [02:15] <sinedeviance> hp?
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#588 [02:15] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: uh ok... HP desktop or laptop?
#589 [02:15] <sinedeviance> what model?
#590 [02:15] <FTheWorld> desktop
#591 [02:15] <woodzykiler> hi
#592 [02:15] <woodzykiler> i need help
#593 [02:15] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: ok. model number?
#594 [02:15] <xales> what do you need help with?
#595 [02:15] <woodzykiler> i get this error message
#596 [02:15] <sinedeviance> should be on the front of the case
#597 [02:15] <woodzykiler> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x4c56c059, pid=3160, tid=3172 # # JRE version: 6.0_23-b05 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (19.0-b09 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [OpenAL32.dll+0xc059] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: #
#598 [02:15] <FTheWorld> HP Pavilion Elite HP
#599 [02:15] <xales> dont paste the whole error
#600 [02:15] <sinedeviance> xales: i'll help FTheWorld if you want to help woodzykiler
#601 [02:15] <xales> for the love of god
#602 [02:15] <FTheWorld> HPE at the end*
#603 [02:15] <xales> sinedeviance: ok, thanks
#604 [02:16] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: should have a number though.
#605 [02:16] <xales> woodzykiler: pastebin.com
#606 [02:16] <FTheWorld> where?
#607 [02:16] <woodzykiler> whats that?
#608 [02:16] <FTheWorld> sinedeviance: where?
#609 [02:16] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: should be like 'HPE-450f"
#610 [02:17] <xales> woodzykiler: paste the error there
#611 [02:17] <woodzykiler> ok
#612 [02:17] <xales> and give me the link it sends you to
#613 [02:17] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: or similar.
#614 [02:17] <FTheWorld> sinedeviance: where would that be located?
#615 [02:17] <FTheWorld> on the screen?
#616 [02:17] <woodzykiler> http://pastebin.com/wC51pn6L
#617 [02:17] <FTheWorld> i mean monitor
#618 [02:18] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: on the computer case. the tower.
#619 [02:18] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: maybe on the side? on a sticker?
#620 [02:18] <sinedeviance> or on the box it came in.
#621 [02:18] <sinedeviance> P.S.: this is one of the reasons i hate HP -- they no longer mark the model on the case :\
#622 [02:18] <FTheWorld> sinedeviance: HPE-380t
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#624 [02:18] <xales> woodzykiler: well
#625 [02:18] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: thank you! lemme look it up
#626 [02:18] <xales> how old is the computer?
#627 [02:18] <woodzykiler> yes?
#628 [02:19] <xales> and when do you get this error
#629 [02:19] <woodzykiler> its 4 months old
#630 [02:19] <xales> where do you see it
#631 [02:19] <woodzykiler> i get the error everything i close minecraft
#632 [02:19] <FTheWorld> 6Rawr
#633 [02:19] <xales> thats normal
#634 [02:19] <xales> nothing can be done about it :(
#635 [02:19] <woodzykiler> ummm
#636 [02:19] <FTheWorld> 6:D
#637 [02:19] <xales> well
#638 [02:19] <xales> not easily
#639 [02:19] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: what OS? windows 7?
#640 [02:19] <FTheWorld> 6yeah
#641 [02:19] <nipper> install sun java.
#642 [02:19] <FTheWorld> 6sinedeviance:yeah
#643 [02:19] <xales> god why did the +c drop
#644 [02:19] <xales> stop with color please
#645 [02:20] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: okay. please right click on desktop and go to screen resolution. then click 'Advanced' in that window.
#646 [02:20] <woodzykiler> can u help me with a mod install XD
#647 [02:20] <xales> woodzykiler: sorry, nope :(
#648 [02:20] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: it should give you details about the video chipset.
#649 [02:20] <woodzykiler> darn ok
#650 [02:20] <xales> mods aren't supported
#651 [02:20] <woodzykiler> well thanks
#652 [02:20] <xales> no problem
#653 [02:20] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: look under 'Adapter Type'
#654 [02:20] <woodzykiler> goon night everyone and marry x-mas
#655 [02:21] <xales> you too
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#657 [02:21] <FTheWorld> 6ok
#658 [02:21] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: anything yet?
#659 [02:22] <FTheWorld> 6theres only 1
#660 [02:22] <sinedeviance> only 1 what?
#661 [02:22] <FTheWorld> 6adapter type
#662 [02:22] <sinedeviance> thats fine
#663 [02:22] <sinedeviance> what is it?
#664 [02:22] <sinedeviance> i.e. what is the adapter shown?
#665 [02:23] <FTheWorld> 6ATI Radeon HD 5450
#666 [02:23] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: okay, perfect
#667 [02:23] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: and the problem you were having?
#668 [02:23] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: the game is crashing on start, right?
#669 [02:23] <xales> Kealper: GreyVulpine: please set mode +c (no-color) when you get a chance. <3
#670 [02:24] <FTheWorld> 6the game it self - minecraft - wont even show a tiny bit of the game on my screen
#671 [02:24] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: so... black screen?
#672 [02:24] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: or does it crash?
#673 [02:24] <feenyx> Oh, hi there protagonist!
#674 [02:24] <FTheWorld> 12niether
#675 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Gah, could you stop it with the colored text?
#676 [02:24] <FTheWorld> 12it just shows minecraft beta at the top and nothing else
#677 [02:25] <FTheWorld> 12GreyVulpine: No
#678 [02:25] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: um... are you playing the stand-alone client, or in browser?
#679 [02:25] <feenyx> GreyVulpine: I was actually contemplating this a week or so ago, if it would be possible to redo irssi themes so that they strip all colour tags
#680 [02:25] <xales> ty grey
#681 [02:25] <sinedeviance> feenyx: it is, just set all mIRC color codes to white or black
#682 [02:25] <xales> feenyx: it needs that >.>
#683 [02:25] <sinedeviance> feenyx: er, irssi* sorry
#684 [02:26] <xales> I dont think there is a way to do that, without some dumb script that will munch cpu
#685 [02:26] <sinedeviance> that sucks
#686 [02:26] <sinedeviance> i use xchat for that very reason
#687 [02:26] <xales> irssi is better than xchat in many ways imho
#688 [02:26] <xales> its more customizable
#689 [02:26] <sinedeviance> not saying it isnt
#690 [02:26] <sinedeviance> but i'm on windows
#691 [02:26] <sinedeviance> irssi in windows blows
#692 [02:26] <feenyx> as am I
#693 [02:26] <FTheWorld> AY
#694 [02:26] <feenyx> putty ftw
#695 [02:26] <FTheWorld> HELLO
#696 [02:26] <xales> ssh+screen+irssi
#697 [02:27] <feenyx> what xales said :)
#698 [02:27] <FTheWorld> ...
#699 [02:27] <xales> FTheWorld: hello
#700 [02:27] <FTheWorld> can sum1 please help me
#701 [02:27] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: i was waiting for you to explain the problem in detail
#702 [02:27] <xales> we are trying to
#703 [02:27] <xales> you arent giving us enough information to help you
#704 [02:27] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: besides 'minecraft beta' is there anything else? or just black?
#705 [02:28] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: windows 7 64bit?
#706 [02:28] <FTheWorld> the reapeting bedrock backround, not even a resemblance to the box that the game pplays in
#707 [02:28] <sinedeviance> ...
#708 [02:29] <sinedeviance> there's no option buttons?
#709 [02:29] <xales> FTheWorld: can you take a screenshot?
#710 [02:29] <sinedeviance> i.e. "singleplayer" "options" "multiplayer" ?
#711 [02:30] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: windows 7 64bit or 32bit?
#712 [02:30] <FTheWorld> theres nothing exept the top thing with faq and comunity ect. ect. and right under that Minecraft Beta
#713 [02:30] <FTheWorld> 64 i think
#714 [02:30] <sinedeviance> uh...
#715 [02:30] <sinedeviance> lolol
#716 [02:30] <sinedeviance> he's on the site
#717 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> website.
#718 [02:30] <sinedeviance> okay now i see what the problem is
#719 [02:30] <FTheWorld> windows 7
#720 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> Clear cache? Try again?
#721 [02:30] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: you've bought the game i take it?
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#723 [02:30] <FTheWorld> yeah
#724 [02:31] <xales> did you log in?
#725 [02:31] <FTheWorld> yeah
#726 [02:31] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: okay. download the client.
#727 [02:31] <xales> do you have java installed?
#728 [02:31] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: run the client.
#729 [02:31] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: ????
#730 [02:31] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: PROFIT.
#731 [02:31] <FTheWorld> wtf
#732 [02:31] <xales> lol
#733 [02:31] <xales> do you have java installed?
#734 [02:31] <FTheWorld> it wont let play in the downloaded one because it says i havnt played online first :(
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#736 [02:31] <sinedeviance> i'm gonna go play minecraft for a bit and go to bed. you guys have a good one.
#737 [02:32] <FTheWorld> YES I HAVE IT INSTALLED
#738 [02:32] <FTheWorld> NO
#739 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> Laters sinedeviance
#740 [02:32] <FTheWorld> i need you
#741 [02:32] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: no, you have to put your login credentials in first
#742 [02:32] <FTheWorld> i did
#743 [02:32] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: i.e. run the game, put in login credentials, click login.
#744 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> FTheWorld - What's your login name?
#745 [02:32] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: if it isnt working, try again tomorrow,.
#746 [02:32] <xales> sinedeviance: on the site
#747 [02:32] <xales> it uses your login from the top right thing
#748 [02:32] <xales> not in the java applet
#749 [02:32] <xales> :)
#750 [02:32] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: if you JUST bought the game, it probably hasnt processed yet.
#751 [02:33] <sinedeviance> FTheWorld: you have to login IN THE GAME btw, not on the site.
#752 [02:33] <FTheWorld> it was working on my laptop but it broke so i came up here and now it wont work
#753 [02:33] <xales> sinedeviance: he is playing in the browser though
#754 [02:33] <sinedeviance> xales: ahh.
#755 [02:33] <xales> FTheWorld: download it from
#756 [02:33] <xales> !client
#757 [02:33] <xales> and try running that
#758 [02:33] <sinedeviance> well, i'm out
#759 [02:33] <sinedeviance> have a good one
#760 [02:33] <xales> sinedeviance: lucky
#761 [02:33] <FTheWorld> AuBot: shut the f*&$ up kid
#762 [02:34] <xales> its 230am
#763 [02:34] <xales> for me
#764 [02:34] <sinedeviance> same
#765 [02:34] <FTheWorld> me 2
#766 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> Same
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#768 [02:34] <xales> lol
#769 [02:34] <xales> EST win
#770 [02:34] <sinedeviance> <FTheWorld> AuBot: shut the f*&$ up kid <-- someone is real nice :\
#771 [02:34] <aetherian> heeeyyyy
#772 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#773 [02:34] <FTheWorld> .-'*
#774 [02:34] <xales> hello aetherian
#775 [02:34] <aetherian> believe it or not
#776 [02:34] <FTheWorld> @:^)
#777 [02:34] <aetherian> I fixed my DCing problem
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#779 [02:34] <xales> :)
#780 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> YAY!
#781 [02:34] <aetherian> :D
#782 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> About freakin time!
#783 [02:35] <aetherian> ie I got a fething awesome computer for christmas
#784 [02:35] <aetherian> :p
#785 [02:35] <sinedeviance> if you didn't build it, and it's a desktop, it's not awesome ;)
#786 [02:35] <aetherian> well
#787 [02:35] <aetherian> it's as awesome as I'm getting for a while
#788 [02:36] <aetherian> have to get used to the keyboard though
#789 [02:36] * xales was going to say the same thing, but doesn't want to be rude
#789 [02:36] <sinedeviance> fair enough
#790 [02:36] <xales> just because my case lights up doesnt mean im special
#791 [02:36] <xales> :/
#792 [02:36] <sinedeviance> xales: i try not to worry about those kinds of things ;)
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#794 [02:36] <xales> i'm an official helper now or something
#795 [02:36] <xales> ._.
#796 [02:36] <sinedeviance> lol
#797 [02:36] <sinedeviance> i saved about a grand by building my own rig
#798 [02:36] <sinedeviance> well... maybe closer to $700
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#800 [02:37] <xales> if you got it from alienware you probably saved about $3k then
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#802 [02:37] <sinedeviance> markup on OEM boxes is ridiculous
#803 [02:37] <xales> alienware is worse than apple....by a massive amount
#804 [02:37] <xales> especially now dell bought them
#805 [02:37] <sinedeviance> xales: lol, to hell with alienware. they suck now that dell owns them. alienwares have the same shit hardware that the dell XPSes have.
#806 [02:37] <aetherian> alienware is massive scam
#807 [02:37] <sinedeviance> xales: alienware used to mean something.
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#809 [02:38] <xales> a fancy alien head on my case
#810 [02:38] <xales> i can get a cooler one for sqrt(price)
#811 [02:38] <sinedeviance> aetherian: they didnt used to be a massive scam.
#812 [02:38] <sinedeviance> i.e. for example
#813 [02:38] <aetherian> maybe not
#814 [02:38] <aetherian> but now they overcharge
#815 [02:38] <sinedeviance> back in, like, 1999.
#816 [02:38] <sinedeviance> aetherian: they always did overcharge. but they used to put in the best hardware on the market.
#817 [02:38] <aetherian> I'd rather get an asus g73 than an alieware m15/17x
#818 [02:38] <aetherian> forget the size of the asus
#819 [02:38] <sinedeviance> the G73 is epic
#820 [02:39] <sinedeviance> riddled with BIOS bugs though
#821 [02:39] <aetherian> the... ah... msi gt640 isn't half bad
#822 [02:39] <sinedeviance> if you do get a G73, update the bios immediately
#823 [02:39] <aetherian> at least not so far
#824 [02:39] <aetherian> :3
#825 [02:39] <sinedeviance> wow, nvidia is up to the 6XX series already?
#826 [02:40] <aetherian> ...shrug
#827 [02:40] <sinedeviance> meh. i like ATI
#828 [02:40] <Phelps> yeah, the progress is crazy, or there just fakin it
#829 [02:40] <sinedeviance> i have a 5850. it's holy-shit-awesome.
#830 [02:40] <xales> they only just got done flaunting the "best card on the marked" gtx 460
#831 [02:40] <xales> >.>
#832 [02:40] <xales> fakin
#833 [02:40] <xales> i think
#834 [02:40] <sinedeviance> xales: yeah.
#835 [02:40] <xales> if it was massively big it would be in a newspaper
#836 [02:40] <sinedeviance> PROTIP: the GTX 460 was never the best card on market.
#837 [02:40] <sinedeviance> far from, in fact.
#838 [02:40] <sinedeviance> it was pretty shit in a lot of games.
#839 [02:41] <xales> I still have an 8800GTS
#840 [02:41] <sinedeviance> terrible performance in source engine games with the GTX460
#841 [02:41] <xales> and its OC'd and ive never had a problem running any game on ultra
#842 [02:41] <sinedeviance> same with my HD58590
#843 [02:41] <sinedeviance> er 5850* whoops
#844 [02:41] <xales> ive never gotten an ATI card
#845 [02:42] <sinedeviance> i can run just cause 2 on full settings w/ 4xAA/4xAF and get 55-60fps steady. that's fucking amazing.
#846 [02:42] <xales> im not too good with their numbering
#847 [02:42] * aetherian realised he started a conversation that he barely even gets the gist of misc words floating in and out of his monitor
#847 [02:42] <sinedeviance> oh, at 1920x1080 too
#848 [02:42] <sinedeviance> forgot to mention that
#849 [02:42] <Phelps> my friend has a pc with 4!!!! FUCKING FOUR GTX 580s
#850 [02:42] <xales> only game ive found i can't run on highest setting is codblops. I dont wanna run that on highest settings. I dont wanna run it at all
#851 [02:42] <sinedeviance> xales: it's very similar to the nvidia numbering scheme. for example, the 4870 is about as good as the 5870.
#852 [02:42] <sinedeviance> xales: while the 4450 is about as good as the 5450
#853 [02:42] <xales> ah
#854 [02:43] <sinedeviance> lol
#855 [02:43] <Phelps> to be fair though, he uses it for college
#856 [02:43] <sinedeviance> Phelps: no offense but your friend is a retard. unless he's using it for some special purpose, like 16 monitors or some crazy shit.
#857 [02:43] <Phelps> 3D environment design
#858 [02:43] <sinedeviance> ahh
#859 [02:43] <sinedeviance> yeah, in that case i can see the appeal
#860 [02:43] <sinedeviance> HOWEVER
#861 [02:44] <sinedeviance> he should have gone quadro
#862 [02:44] <Phelps> its still retarded
#863 [02:44] <xales> still would be fine with just one
#864 [02:44] <xales> imo
#865 [02:44] <Phelps> he had an ammount to spend on a PC
#866 [02:44] <xales> nothing your doing in college should need a small renderfarm
#867 [02:44] <sinedeviance> a single high-end quadro would outperform all four of those cards in SLI for 3D modelling
#868 [02:44] <Phelps> and he spent it all
#869 [02:44] <sinedeviance> i spent just under a grand on my rig three months ago
#870 [02:45] <Phelps> im not sure how much he spent
#871 [02:45] * xales wishes he had money left over for upgrades
#871 [02:45] <sinedeviance> thats with everything except the monitor and the sound system
#872 [02:45] <Phelps> but im sure it was over 2k
#873 [02:45] <Phelps> and
#874 [02:45] <Phelps> anyone see MC generate stuff like this
#875 [02:45] <Phelps> http://benphelps.me/ss/37a47ed4ded6d0006fe1085240917ea9.png
#876 [02:45] <xales> yeah
#877 [02:45] <xales> its kinda dumb
#878 [02:45] <xales> making floating things
#879 [02:46] <xales> but its more interesting than the old one ._.
#880 [02:46] <shmoo> PIE
#881 [02:46] <xales> k
#882 [02:46] <xales> sigh
#883 [02:46] <Phelps> my friend said the terrain generation in minecraft is amazing
#884 [02:46] * xales wants +b *!Mibbit@*
#884 [02:46] <xales> it is pretty amazing
#885 [02:46] <xales> and sometimes realistic
#886 [02:46] <aetherian> why, xales?
#887 [02:46] <xales> its kinda dumb though
#888 [02:47] <xales> aetherian: all of the annoying people who can't articulate their problem or are just total jackasses
#889 [02:47] <xales> use it
#890 [02:47] <xales> all of them
#891 [02:47] <xales> every single one
#892 [02:47] <xales> ive been checking
#893 [02:47] <aetherian> NO...
#894 [02:47] <xales> that ive seen anyway
#895 [02:47] <aetherian> I'm annoying
#896 [02:47] <aetherian> and I use xchat
#897 [02:47] <aetherian> :)
#898 [02:48] <xales> well then
#899 [02:48] <xales> /mode +b aetherian!*@*
#900 [02:48] <aetherian> ha
#901 [02:48] <xales> :P
#902 [02:48] <aetherian> ha ha
#903 [02:48] <aetherian> ha ha ha
#904 [02:48] <xales> and yes
#905 [02:48] <xales> im too lazy to whois you
#906 [02:48] <xales> and its 3am
#907 [02:48] <aetherian> and what would whoising serve the purpose of
#908 [02:48] <xales> not nickbanning you?
#909 [02:48] <xales> :P
#910 [02:49] <xales> the one thing im glad about
#911 [02:49] <aetherian> oh
#912 [02:49] <aetherian> ohhh
#913 [02:49] <xales> is that irc doesnt call it finger
#914 [02:49] <xales> like unix does
#915 [02:49] <xales> that would just be...bad
#916 [02:49] <xales> IM FINGERING YOU BRO
#917 [02:49] <xales> :P
#918 [02:49] <xales> trolls
#919 [02:49] <Phelps> xales: wanna try and login to my server ?
#920 [02:49] <xales> can't right now :(
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#922 [02:49] <xales> on my laptop
#923 [02:49] <Phelps> im getting Took too long to login.....
#924 [02:49] <sinedeviance> DAMMIT
#925 [02:49] <xales> its too shitty to run minecraft
#926 [02:49] <sinedeviance> lol
#927 [02:49] <xales> sinedeviance: what? :/
#928 [02:50] <xales> Phelps: ._.
#929 [02:50] <sinedeviance> xales: internets
#930 [02:50] <sinedeviance> <sinedeviance> i spent just under a grand on my rig three months ago
#931 [02:50] <sinedeviance> <sinedeviance> thats with everything except the monitor and the sound system
#932 [02:50] <Phelps> atleast i get "java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out" now
#933 [02:50] <xales> err
#934 [02:50] <xales> that sounds like a firewall then
#935 [02:50] <xales> or
#936 [02:50] <xales> failed port forward
#937 [02:50] <xales> or server isnt running at all
#938 [02:50] <xales> or wrong port
#939 [02:50] <xales> ummm
#940 [02:50] <xales> what else
#941 [02:50] <xales> i dunno
#942 [02:50] <Phelps> no, thats an error on the server
#943 [02:50] <xales> oh
#944 [02:50] <xales> well
#945 [02:51] <Phelps> yeeeaaahhhhh
#946 [02:51] <xales> I couldn't tell you why the issue with downloading that would persist between it
#947 [02:51] <xales> 2 fucking linux distros that are totally different
#948 [02:51] <xales> so
#949 [02:51] <xales> I'd assume there is a problem with the hardware then
#950 [02:51] <xales> :(
#951 [02:51] <aetherian> oh yeah I nearly forgot
#952 [02:51] <Phelps> :(
#953 [02:51] <aetherian> I had a problem
#954 [02:51] <xales> oh?
#955 [02:51] <Phelps> it cost too much to mail servers
#956 [02:51] <sinedeviance> i have a core i3 530, gigabyte GA-P55-USB3 mainboard, 2x2GB g.skill ripjaws series ddr3-1600, 1TB WD black, XFX Radeon 5850 1GB, seasonic 80PLUS bronze 620w PSU, rosewill destroyer case, asus 20X DVD-RW/CD-RW drive, and a few spare 120mm fans
#957 [02:52] <aetherian> new compy, so I needed to download minecraft, ya know?
#958 [02:52] <Phelps> $140 to mail a server from CA to OK
#959 [02:52] <sinedeviance> Phelps: UPS next-day?
#960 [02:52] <aetherian> so I try to download the .jar, so it is... ah... customizable
#961 [02:52] <xales> >.>
#962 [02:52] <Phelps> nah, thats UPS Slow-as-shit
#963 [02:52] <xales> sinedeviance: I have some ye olde AMD dual core thing
#964 [02:52] <sinedeviance> Phelps: D:
#965 [02:52] <aetherian> as I change the save spot to games, on windows 7
#966 [02:52] <aetherian> and attempt to save it
#967 [02:52] <xales> runs at 3.0 ghz but im overclocking to 3.5 I think
#968 [02:52] <aetherian> it says
#969 [02:52] <Phelps> naxt day is like 400 somthin
#970 [02:52] <xales> still a dual core
#971 [02:52] <aetherian> Invalid Class String
#972 [02:52] <Phelps> this is just a 1U server too
#973 [02:53] <aetherian> what am I doing wrong
#974 [02:53] <sinedeviance> xales: not bad. i have an older rig with an AMD Athlon 64 x2 and 2GB of RAM. not a bad windows 7 machine.
#975 [02:53] <xales> aetherian: the thing your using to change it
#976 [02:53] <xales> isnt working
#977 [02:53] <xales> sbbsdfsdfg
#978 [02:53] <Phelps> wanna see what i have ?
#979 [02:53] <xales> i dont use windows for anything
#980 [02:53] <xales> im fine with xp
#981 [02:53] <aetherian> hmm
#982 [02:53] <xales> dont need to waste more ram
#983 [02:53] <Phelps> System Info: Model:  iMac (Aluminum Core 2 Duo) · CPU:  2 @ 2.7 GHz · L2:  6 MB · RAM:  4 GB · OS X:  Version 10.6.5 (Build 10H574) · Hostname:  ben-phelpss-imac.local · User:  benphelps · Client:  Linkinus 2.1.2/21710 · Style:  Whisper
#984 [02:53] <aetherian> it's just windows explorer...
#985 [02:53] <aetherian> or whatever it's called on windows 7
#986 [02:53] <sinedeviance> xales: this core i3 runs at 2.93ghz stock. i have it overclocked to 4ghz.
#987 [02:53] <xales> aetherian: what?
#988 [02:53] <xales> lol sinedeviance
#989 [02:54] <aetherian> I'm trying to save the darn file >.>
#990 [02:54] <xales> im too lazy to mess with mine
#991 [02:54] <xales> the heatsink I installed is so big
#992 [02:54] <xales> i had to remove part of case
#993 [02:54] <sinedeviance> xales: thats on air cooling too. the stock intel cooler :D
#994 [02:54] <xales> >.>
#995 [02:54] <sinedeviance> core i3's are amazing overclockers
#996 [02:54] <aetherian> ...and I can't save it...
#997 [02:54] <xales> aetherian: well
#998 [02:55] <sinedeviance> xales: btw, windows 7 is pretty damn good. better than XP. makes really great usage of RAM and virtual memory.
#999 [02:55] <aetherian> I am attempting to save it to c:\games
#1000 [02:55] <sinedeviance> even better than linux (seriously.)
#1001 [02:55] <xales> sinedeviance: I've tested it
#1002 [02:55] <xales> xp uses less
#1003 [02:55] <xales> :\
#1004 [02:56] <xales> for my purposes anyway
#1005 [02:56] <sinedeviance> i dunno what all microsoft changed between vista and seven but they did good
#1006 [02:56] <aetherian> ima try to save it to desktop
#1007 [02:56] <xales> I _only_ use windows for gaming
#1008 [02:56] <sinedeviance> xales: well yeah XP is gonna use less. it has much less to run. but seven is much more efficient. thats all i'm sayin.
#1009 [02:56] <xales> sinedeviance: vista->7 = fixing vista fuckups
#1010 [02:56] <xales> and only some of em too
#1011 [02:56] <nipper> They changed the hole thing. Only thing win7 has from vista is the kernel.
#1012 [02:56] <nipper> and a few ideas.
#1013 [02:56] <sinedeviance> xales: nah. more like vista - 7 = complete core OS redesign.
#1014 [02:57] <xales> nipper: that was the scope of how bad vista was
#1015 [02:57] <sinedeviance> nipper: they gave the kernel a runthrough as well
#1016 [02:57] <xales> the kernel still sucks
#1017 [02:57] <xales> -_-
#1018 [02:57] <xales> ok damn when im sitting here remembering what to press for that emote
#1019 [02:57] <xales> I need to go to sleep
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#1021 [02:58] <nipper> Yeah, But the thing is. The error handling windows7 has over all the others.
#1022 [02:58] <sinedeviance> yeah same
#1023 [02:58] <nipper> One best thing about win7
#1024 [02:58] <xales> error handling is the same. still bad
#1025 [02:58] <xales> -_-
#1026 [02:58] <sinedeviance> xales: not so. you can turn it off.
#1027 [02:58] <nipper> Not really. If something crashs the hole thing does not go poof.
#1028 [02:59] <xales> indeed
#1029 [02:59] <sinedeviance> you turn off UAC and it goes away.
#1030 [02:59] <xales> I do
#1031 [02:59] <xales> still the fact its there
#1032 [02:59] <xales> bothers me
#1033 [02:59] <sinedeviance> xales: it has to be there for the dumber users
#1034 [02:59] <sinedeviance> still, you can turn off the service and if something crashes it will simply crash with no error message.
#1035 [02:59] <aetherian> there we go
#1036 [03:00] <xaviergmail|iTouch> Kealper
#1037 [03:01] <aetherian> well
#1038 [03:01] <aetherian> I am off
#1039 [03:01] <xaviergmail|iTouch> Hai lul
#1040 [03:01] <xales> well
#1041 [03:01] <nipper> Lol, Some guy on another Irc thinks its funny to spam me.
#1042 [03:02] <xaviergmail|iTouch> It is
#1043 [03:02] <nipper> Not really, It's more annoying then any thing.
#1044 [03:02] <xaviergmail|iTouch> Lul brb
#1045 [03:03] <xales> /ignore
#1046 [03:03] <xales> lol
#1047 [03:03] <nipper> Oh, I know.
#1048 [03:03] <nipper> he has about 145clones.
#1049 [03:05] <xales> report him?
#1050 [03:05] <xales> spamming+clones = dline
#1051 [03:05] <xales> on some networks
#1052 [03:05] <nipper> Lol, It's just a private IRCd so its all good.
#1053 [03:05] <xales> ._.
#1054 [03:06] <xales> then kill him
#1055 [03:06] <xales> and gline
#1056 [03:06] <nipper> lol
#1057 [03:06] <xales> or iline people fuck
#1058 [03:06] <nipper> I don't have the control to do that. Other wise I would.
#1059 [03:06] <xales> find the person who does
#1060 [03:06] <nipper> He is sleeping.
#1061 [03:06] <xales> wake him up
#1062 [03:06] <xales> P
#1063 [03:06] <xales> :P
#1064 [03:06] <nipper> Lol, To lazy to pick up the phone.
#1065 [03:07] <xales> then /disconnect from that net
#1066 [03:07] <xales> lol
#1067 [03:07] <xales> also tell him hes gonna get a dline
#1068 [03:07] <xales> :P
#1069 [03:07] <xales> rarely helps but..who knows
#1070 [03:18] <nipper> http://www.wimp.com/humanoidrobot/
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#1073 [03:28] <nipper> http://www.dump.com/2010/12/25/lets-play-minecraft-online-how-to-build-a-town-in-10-minutes-video/
#1074 [03:28] <xales> lol
#1075 [03:30] <genshou> o_o
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#1077 [03:32] <genshou> teamwork :>
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#1079 [03:32] <nipper> I still think mc should use this as a trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_165689&v=v5fS4RF3ht0&feature=iv
#1080 [03:37] <kage-ookami> Running MineCraft on a linux system, every start I get this exception. The game runs nicely, though: http://pastebin.ca/2029580
#1081 [03:37] <kage-ookami> Any way to fix this exception?
#1082 [03:37] <nipper> what java version?
#1083 [03:38] <kage-ookami> Sun JDK 1.6.0.22
#1084 [03:39] <genshou> Is this channel for just tech support or also strategy-related help as well? :o
#1085 [03:39] <nipper> try using OpenJDK
#1086 [03:40] <nipper> That's what I use on CentOC 5 on my vps
#1087 [03:40] <kage-ookami> I need the sun sdk for other java apps. Was just wondering what the exception is about. (It is just spamming the console a bit, game runs w/o problem)
#1088 [03:41] <xales> all help
#1089 [03:41] <xales> kage-ookami: is the exceptin related to openal?
#1090 [03:41] <xales> if it is, ignore it
#1091 [03:42] <kage-ookami> xales: no it's not, its looking for the window-only java binary "javaw", that Sun's SDK doesn't provide for some reason.
#1092 [03:43] <xales> how are you launching it?
#1093 [03:43] <xales> java -jar (jarname)
#1094 [03:43] <kage-ookami> genshou: best thin in #help-somthing-or-other is just to ask away. Worst case is that you get redirected :)
#1095 [03:43] <genshou> xD
#1096 [03:43] <kage-ookami> xales: with memory options, but basically with java -jar <jarname>
#1097 [03:44] <xales> well
#1098 [03:44] <GLaDOS> no, no
#1099 [03:44] <xales> it shouldnt be looking then
#1100 [03:44] <genshou> well I've been digging down to bedrock and then branch mining both sides of my tunnel every 3 squares in
#1101 [03:44] <xales> GLaDOS: thats approved ._.
#1102 [03:44] <xales> whatever
#1103 [03:44] <genshou> I was wondering if there are faster ways to mine for iron, since that's all I really care about
#1104 [03:44] <xales> its Kealper's bot
#1105 [03:45] <xales> genshou, strip mining and caves
#1106 [03:45] <xales> are the fastest ways
#1107 [03:45] <genshou> I try exploring caves sometimes, but it's easy to get lost since I'm terrible at following a system with torches, and monsters tend to eat me D:
#1108 [03:45] <genshou> Strip mining...
#1109 [03:45] <xales> dig 4x4 straight down
#1110 [03:46] <nipper> lol
#1111 [03:46] <genshou> Don't most people who do open-surface mining go bigger than 4x4, like 16x16 or 20x20? :o
#1112 [03:46] <xales> oh it seems he is
#1113 [03:46] <xales> ._.
#1114 [03:46] <genshou> open-pit*
#1115 [03:47] <genshou> I mostly want to avoid that because I don't like leaving the scars of my raping the land out in the open... perhaps that's a bit naive xD
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#1117 [03:47] <genshou> Whenever I cut down a tree I replant the sapling in the same spot, unless the tree was in the way of my construction
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#1119 [03:48] <nipper> So you dig a hole then start the pit
#1120 [03:48] <nipper> But then again you leave little suprises for people.
#1121 [03:48] <genshou> Nah, I'm on single player so far ;)
#1122 [03:48] <genshou> that way no one can laugh at me as I run around with leather armour and a stone sword
#1123 [03:48] <genshou> :>
#1124 [03:49] <nipper> multi play is fun.
#1125 [03:49] <nipper> But then again grefing is annoying.
#1126 [03:49] <genshou> yeah
#1127 [03:49] <genshou> I want to learn how to do things like airlocks and lockable doors in single player before I try going online ;)
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#1129 [03:51] <nipper> I have a server up that has nothing going no one going on it yet. It just has hey0 installed no plugins.
#1130 [03:51] <nipper> I mean has no one going on it yte.
#1131 [03:51] <nipper> Your more then welcomed to play around on it.
#1132 [03:52] <genshou> Well, it's nice for me to have a world I can afk in safely xD
#1133 [03:53] <nipper> Lol do what I do make a 1x1 tower then take it down when im back.
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#1135 [03:53] <genshou> Well, relatively safe. I always come back to being surrounded on all sides by creepers, but that's what a cactus field is for. :>
#1136 [03:53] <nipper> lol
#1137 [03:53] <nipper> drop tnt
#1138 [03:53] <genshou> That reminds me. Is it normal for single player to auto-pause if the computer is left unattended for a couple hours?
#1139 [03:53] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. no?
#1140 [03:54] <nipper> I loved doing that to newbies making a snowfeild with mines.
#1141 [03:54] <genshou> or is that just something on my computer trying to force a switch to desktop? :<
#1142 [03:54] <genshou> I get that problem sometimes and it's really annoying when playing modern fullscreen games, but I can't figure out what's causing it >.<;
#1143 [03:54] <nipper> if you alt tab in anyway it will.
#1144 [03:55] <genshou> Considering I'm trying to build the Deku Tree and I work fulltime with some 12-hour shifts, it'd be nice to have my saplings all grow while I'm away xD
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#1146 [03:55] <nipper> Set your self a private smp.
#1147 [03:55] <genshou> I know this isn't a Minecraft question, but is there any way to detect programs that are forcing me to switch to desktop? ;<
#1148 [03:56] <GLaDOS> use googalz
#1149 [03:56] <genshou> When it happens while I'm in the middle of a firefight in Mass Effect 2 on Insanity, I usually get a game over by the time the game loads back xD
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#1151 [03:57] <genshou> I tried using a Google search before but all I found was links that tell you how to use Windows+D keys to do it yourself, not how to stop random annoying programs from forcing it
#1152 [03:57] <Tito0096> I am having issues with minecraft on ubuntu 10.10
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#1154 [03:59] <Zircon_X> Hi Minecrafthelp
#1155 [04:02] <genshou> xales, why is open-pit mining faster than branch mining at bedrock level? Is it because of constant cave discovery?
#1156 [04:03] <Tito0096> Open pit mining for me takes forever
#1157 [04:03] <Tito0096> i just dig straight down
#1158 [04:03] <Tito0096> untill i hit a hole
#1159 [04:03] <Tito0096> then another hole
#1160 [04:03] <Tito0096> untill its a huge cave system
#1161 [04:03] <Tito0096> of goodies
#1162 [04:03] <genshou> I tend to use a diamond pick so I don't like digging straight down; it leads to messy painful deaths ;<
#1163 [04:03] <kage-ookami> ...of lava. You good at swimming in hot lava?
#1164 [04:04] <genshou> ^
#1165 [04:04] <Tito0096> well not straight down
#1166 [04:04] <Tito0096> like stairs
#1167 [04:04] <genshou> Ah, so more like a 2x2 or 3x3 stair shaft
#1168 [04:04] <Tito0096> yeah!
#1169 [04:04] <Zircon_X> Hell that's what I do
#1170 [04:04] <Tito0096> dig straight
#1171 [04:04] <Zircon_X> 2x2 stairs
#1172 [04:04] <genshou> that's how I get to bedrock, then I've been branch mining
#1173 [04:04] <Tito0096> then dig down
#1174 [04:04] <Tito0096> dig straigh then dig down
#1175 [04:05] <Tito0096> but then i get lucky and find a huge cave
#1176 [04:05] <Tito0096> then i get a bucket of water and pour over any lava
#1177 [04:05] <genshou> Yeah, a nice field of obsidian looks pretty in my mining cavern ;)
#1178 [04:05] <Tito0096> and i cluster spray the whole cave with torches
#1179 [04:05] <genshou> I just need to work out a better way to avoid being lost
#1180 [04:05] <kage-ookami> wouldn't it be easier to dig diagonally down (1 down, 1 in front, repeat) so you can install some tracks (much) later on?
#1181 [04:05] <genshou> Diagonally?
#1182 [04:06] <Tito0096> thats what i do
#1183 [04:06] <Tito0096> like stair steps right?
#1184 [04:06] <kage-ookami> don't curve around into a vertical shaft - just go straight ahead and down.
#1185 [04:06] <genshou> Ah, I thought about that after I reached bedrock
#1186 [04:07] <genshou> It would have made me use a lot less iron for minecart tracks to get back up xD
#1187 [04:07] <genshou> I've been thinking about digging such a shaft to save track space, especially since it would make booster design more compact
#1188 [04:08] <genshou> I haven't tried this yet, so I'm curious... can the mine carts with chests in them be boosted? :O
#1189 [04:08] <kage-ookami> yikes - first night, and a couple of creepers at the entrance of the make-shift shelter right away. *grumble*
#1190 [04:08] <Tito0096> whats a good way to start out small and simple yet save up tons of stuff or first work your way and make a base then save up?
#1191 [04:08] <Tito0096> haha
#1192 [04:08] <Tito0096> same here
#1193 [04:08] <Tito0096> i didnt know wtf i was doin
#1194 [04:09] <Tito0096> didnt know how to craft or anything
#1195 [04:09] <genshou> Oh, kage-ookami you just started? :o
#1196 [04:09] <kage-ookami> just started over because the bedrock mining I've done in my other world was kinda meh.
#1197 [04:09] <genshou> I see
#1198 [04:09] <genshou> when I deleted my first world the first thing I did was open my map in Cartograph and hunt for cacti
#1199 [04:09] <kage-ookami> should go back up about 10 boxes to avoid much lava :)
#1200 [04:10] <genshou> Yeah, I ran into a lot of lava and closed off a lot of tunnels because I didn't want to repeatedly mine thru obsidian just to find more lava.
#1201 [04:10] <Tito0096> lol
#1202 [04:10] <genshou> I've found ladders EXTREMELY helpful in flow control
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#1204 [04:10] <kage-ookami> Was fun thing to build a glass platform way up at maximum hight... Was planning to bring a bucket of lava to make a lava-fall as marker for my homebase :)
#1205 [04:11] <genshou> Yeah, I made a cobblestone tower but haven't gotten around to water bucket-climbing to the top to drop some lava yet
#1206 [04:11] <Pistol> Lol be carefull where the lave falls out lol ;P
#1207 [04:12] <kage-ookami> if you let it fall into a 1x1x1 hole held up by a smaller pillar, you are safe in the base :)
#1208 [04:12] <kage-ookami> imho lava should destroy all wooden structures (ladder, fence, etc.) as well as glass blocks... although it's fun to watch lava flow on the safe side of glass.
#1209 [04:12] <genshou> Yeah, I figured I'd need to place glass "catchers" at the bottom
#1210 [04:13] <genshou> kage-ookami, nooooo then how would I block lava flow in my mining tunnel D:
#1211 [04:13] <kage-ookami> genshou: with gravel or stone
#1212 [04:13] <genshou> but I can't stand in the square if I do that. :p
#1213 [04:13] <kage-ookami> tough luck :)
#1214 [04:14] <kage-ookami> if you are fast enough, you can just close the one block you just dug out.
#1215 [04:14] * genshou is not usually fast enough.
#1215 [04:14] <genshou> my first reaction to lava is usually AAAAAAAAAH! /runs
#1216 [04:14] <kage-ookami> then step back 2 blocks (leave one free) and make a chest-high barrier.
#1217 [04:15] <kage-ookami> lava is quite slow. panic just makes it worse :)
#1218 [04:15] <genshou> :)
#1219 [04:15] <genshou> I know, and I could throw a bucket of water several squares away
#1220 [04:15] <genshou> but I already lost one brand new diamond pick when a creeper randomly spawned and blew me into a lava pit D:
#1221 [04:15] <Pistol> How do I stop farm animals spawning in my base and griefing it :P?
#1222 [04:16] <genshou> Pistol, are they trampling your crops or just being a general nuisance?
#1223 [04:16] <kage-ookami> Pistol: good question. Same problem here.
#1224 [04:16] <Pistol> BOth :(
#1225 [04:16] <kage-ookami> trampling crops.
#1226 [04:16] <Pistol> I tried fences lol
#1227 [04:16] <genshou> Ah. Here are the rules for animal spawns
#1228 [04:16] <Pistol> My entire base iss surrounded by high walls
#1229 [04:16] <genshou> They need light and grass
#1230 [04:16] <Pistol> Oh
#1231 [04:16] <genshou> If you have grass and torches inside your base, they will spawn on grass squares.
#1232 [04:17] <genshou> So, if you have an indoor farm have NO grass squares
#1233 [04:17] <kage-ookami> so just put down gravel...
#1234 [04:17] <Pistol> lol I need seeds to use up the grass
#1235 [04:17] <genshou> I prefer cobblestone or wood, but yeah ;)
#1236 [04:17] <genshou> Pistol, dig up the dirt in your farm and replace it with gravel or sand
#1237 [04:17] <genshou> then dig that up and replace it with dirt as you obtain seeds
#1238 [04:17] <Pistol> Lol I am so noob
#1239 [04:17] <genshou> Yeah, I fiddled around with my farm for a while since stupid chickens kept spawning underground and destroying my precious health D:
#1240 [04:18] <Pistol> Took me ages to dig it up and make what I have completed so far. And there is like no flat terrain lol.
#1241 [04:18] <kage-ookami> Pistol: learning about these things is one of the fun parts of the game :)
#1242 [04:18] <Pistol> :]
#1243 [04:18] <genshou> If animals can spawn elsewhere (such as other grass in the room) remove that grass and replace it with something else
#1244 [04:19] <genshou> That way even if your farm is fenced in, you don't have animals jumping around making annoying sounds and trying to slip through your wooden door past the fence barrier ;)
#1245 [04:19] <kage-ookami> ... just drop a box of wood/sand/whatever on top, don't need to bring more dirt once you got the seeds then.
#1246 [04:19] <genshou> That works too, but I hate having it blocking my walking path ;<
#1247 [04:19] <genshou> My original base was very compact and I've not bothered with expansion yet
#1248 [04:20] <kage-ookami> ... put a torch on every block with grass? can they spawn where there is a non-blocking object?
#1249 [04:20] <genshou> I would guess they can, but I can't say for sure.
#1250 [04:20] <Pistol> Lol I remember after fencng it all of I came back and saw a chicken in it :[] omg raged lol :D. He destroyed my crops
#1251 [04:20] <genshou> lol Pistol, happened to me with a chicken too >.<;
#1252 [04:20] <Pistol> I was like omg
#1253 [04:20] <kage-ookami> I had a couple cows chewing away at my wheat.
#1254 [04:21] <genshou> I used an arrow to end its life and got two feathers in return :)
#1255 [04:21] <kage-ookami> waste of an arrow.
#1256 [04:21] <Pistol> I tried to build my farm into this estury or small harbour w/e. Dug out the ground so the water would flow into the hill. I built a roof between the two raised areas by the estury
#1257 [04:21] <kage-ookami> I wouldn't use arrows for any animals. just monsters.
#1258 [04:21] <Pistol> Water didnt go in :[]/
#1259 [04:22] <kage-ookami> Pistol: you probably want standing water for a harbour. You should take a bucket and carry some water to fill it with...
#1260 [04:23] <Pistol> lol
#1261 [04:23] <kage-ookami> yes, its weird, that a bucket of water holds a spring rather than just a single block of water...
#1262 [04:24] <Pistol> Yeah I just thought the water would flow out of the ocean>harbour>hole
#1263 [04:24] <Pistol> Lol guess it ran out :P
#1264 [04:24] <genshou> kage-ookami, I get way more flint than I need if I repeatedly smack gravel instead of just chucking it into a cactus, wood is basically infinite, and I collect feathers now and again, soon to be via conveyor belt when I build my mob grinder.
#1265 [04:24] <genshou> Thus, arrows are abundant
#1266 [04:25] <genshou> And heck, my mob grinder will deliver whole arrows anyway
#1267 [04:25] <kage-ookami> I had not much luck with my mob grinder -.-
#1268 [04:25] * genshou is a clever engineer and has watched some good tutorial vids :>
#1268 [04:25] <Tito0096> genshou
#1269 [04:25] <Tito0096> you go to minecraft.in?
#1270 [04:25] <Mushuukyou> ok uh
#1271 [04:26] <Mushuukyou> I just made an iron d
#1272 [04:26] <Mushuukyou> door
#1273 [04:26] <Mushuukyou> how do I uh.. open it
#1274 [04:26] <genshou> o-o
#1275 [04:26] <Mushuukyou> :D
#1276 [04:26] <genshou> iron doors only open when provided power
#1277 [04:26] <Mushuukyou> oh shit
#1278 [04:26] <kage-ookami> place a button or pressure plate next to it.
#1279 [04:26] <genshou> craft a stone button (2 smooth stone, 1 stacked above the other) to make a short-duration open
#1280 [04:26] <Mushuukyou> thanks
#1281 [04:26] <genshou> use levers or pressure plates otherwise
#1282 [04:27] <Mushuukyou> so I just place the button next to the door and the monsters will be too stupid to push it?
#1283 [04:27] <genshou> Also make sure you have redstone connecting to the door's square if your control isn't right next to it.
#1284 [04:27] <genshou> And yeah, mobs can activate pressure plates but they can't hit buttons or flip levers.
#1285 [04:27] <Mushuukyou> neato
#1286 [04:27] <genshou> Just make sure you put a button on both sides ;)
#1287 [04:27] <kage-ookami> Mushuukyou: don't forget to put a button on BOTH sides of the door :P
#1288 [04:27] <Mushuukyou> haha ok :D
#1289 [04:27] <Mushuukyou> I'm.. on the outside at the moment :(
#1290 [04:28] <genshou> Heh, I haven't crafted any iron doors yet, but I learned about them while reading different mob trap methods
#1291 [04:28] <kage-ookami> same here
#1292 [04:28] <genshou> Also, player traps via clever pressure plate/redstone/water/TNT placement :D
#1293 [04:28] <kage-ookami> don't see the reason to spend iron on doors, if wood works as well.
#1294 [04:29] <genshou> Aside from aesthetics or the multiplayer advantage, there isn't one really.
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#1296 [04:32] <kage-ookami> outch... that was a natural 3x3 shaft several 10+ blocks deep >,<
#1297 [04:32] <Mushuukyou> I'm saving all the cobblestone I get ..because like Wurm, I'm sure it'll be useful.
#1298 [04:34] <genshou> Mushuukyou, after you start mining you'll have more cobblestone than you know what to do with.
#1299 [04:34] <genshou> Plus, it's fairly easy to make "cobblestone factories" (look that up on YouTube as well as reading the page about cobblestone on the wiki)
#1300 [04:35] <genshou> In the meantime if you have the space, heck yeah it's good to save the stuff. I have one 2x1 treasure chest completely filled with cobblestone to use in arch bridge construction projects
#1301 [04:35] <Pistol> Lol what to do with the hills arround my base. If you stand on them you can see in >.<
#1302 [04:40] <genshou> Hmm.
#1303 [04:40] <genshou> Build a ceiling?
#1304 [04:40] <genshou> Grab a diamond shovel and flatten the land?
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#1306 [04:41] <genshou> Make a few dozen TNT and get behind an obsidian wall or up on a high tower? :D
#1307 [04:42] <genshou> Personally I prefer to alter the landscape as little as possible
#1308 [04:43] <genshou> All my mines are covered up by stone buildings or dug into the sides of small natural caverns
#1309 [04:43] <genshou> For the most part I replant every tree I wreck outside my base
#1310 [04:43] <kage-ookami> Is it a problem if you can see in?
#1311 [04:44] <genshou> Well, it is at night if you don't have a glass ceiling.
#1312 [04:44] <genshou> If monsters can't jump in that's great, but skeletons like to shoot arrows D:
#1313 [04:44] <kage-ookami> because of skellies?
#1314 [04:44] <kage-ookami> just become good at dodging :P
#1315 [04:44] <Pistol> Lol I have excavated far enough that they cant shoot in lol
#1316 [04:45] <genshou> I would rather relax and craft at night, or branch mine below my base :D
#1317 [04:45] <Pistol> But they can see in >.<
#1318 [04:45] <genshou> Pistol, I've found that until you can make glass windows, the best "window" to have in your first night's base is a wooden door
#1319 [04:46] <genshou> You can see through it but mobs can't hit you through it, including skellies. But you can whack them xD
#1320 [04:46] <genshou> just be careful to left click, not right click, or you'll open the door for the zombie mob outside.
#1321 [04:47] <kage-ookami> if you place the door right, and stand in the space it opens to, you can't open it - even by accident.
#1322 [04:47] <Pistol> Lol my farm is like 22x15
#1323 [04:47] <genshou> Yeah, but if you mess up and are standing further back...
#1324 [04:48] <kage-ookami> Then you get what you deserve. :P
#1325 [04:48] <kage-ookami> ..and no, I'm not the most friendly person out there. :P
#1326 [04:49] <genshou> :p
#1327 [04:51] <Mushuukyou> dude
#1328 [04:51] <Mushuukyou> this game is like crack
#1329 [04:51] <Mushuukyou> so much better than wurm
#1330 [04:51] <Mushuukyou> if only we could get a persistent world out of it
#1331 [04:52] <kage-ookami> persistent world? what for?
#1332 [04:52] <Mushuukyou> interaction with others, like in wurm
#1333 [04:52] <kage-ookami> I mean, you either save the world, or start a new one - and the new one should be different. Makes it more interesting to explore.
#1334 [04:52] <kage-ookami> no idea what wurm is.
#1335 [04:54] <Tito0096> wurm?
#1336 [04:54] <Tito0096> isnt that wiggly underarm rat mucus?
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#1339 [04:59] <genshou> A PW would be interesting, but... too many griefers
#1340 [05:00] <genshou> I would imagine that is a major deterrent to Minecraft RP servers as well
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#1342 [05:01] <genshou> Hmm... I think this sapling is glitched xD
#1343 [05:02] <genshou> I grew an 8x8 tree farm and harvested lumber as I needed it, then went mining for several real-world hours and every single tree but one grew. Now it's been a good couple of hours again and I haven't replanted yet, and it's still sitting there xD
#1344 [05:03] <genshou> I know it's not lighting because I have a glass ceiling (so even if the nighttime isn't enough, it should still grow during the day), and the ceiling above it is the exact same height as the other 63 plots that worked... :\
#1345 [05:03] <kage-ookami> unlodge it and replant perhaps?
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#1347 [05:04] <Mushuukyou> oh
#1348 [05:04] <Mushuukyou> I haven't learned to plant stuff yet
#1349 [05:04] <Mushuukyou> I've been collecting flowers
#1350 [05:04] <Mushuukyou> becuase
#1351 [05:04] <Mushuukyou> well, i'm gay like that
#1352 [05:05] <kage-ookami> flowers are 'just' for decoration I guess. but you can plant trees to get more wood :)
#1353 [05:07] <genshou> 'kay, screw it xD
#1354 [05:08] <Mushuukyou> how many people can servers support? So some people will be posting their servers and stuff, or will they probably only do it for friends at certain times
#1355 [05:08] * genshou starts demolishing his railroad track to rebuild as a straight-line downhill slope to his mining tunnel, wasting over an hour of work and adding another big chunk of further work required
#1355 [05:08] <genshou> xD
#1356 [05:08] <kage-ookami> hehe
#1357 [05:09] <genshou> But worth it for the savings in iron ingots! :<
#1358 [05:09] <genshou> I'm gonna miss this awesome arch bridge, though
#1359 [05:09] <kage-ookami> Mushuukyou: there are public servers listed in the wiki (most of which are down, until the mods they use support beta). Some of them support several hundred clients...
#1360 [05:10] <kage-ookami> genshou: just dig into a cavern, and you can rebuild your bridge :)
#1361 [05:10] <genshou> No, my bridge was supporting the rail tracks at a fixed height over a couple hills and across the water
#1362 [05:10] <Mushuukyou> wow nice
#1363 [05:10] <genshou> I'm instead gonna plunge it straight into the beach and downward to the bedrock
#1364 [05:11] <genshou> Hah! The very moment I began demolishing the fences around it, a cow jumped up onto the tracks
#1365 [05:12] <Tito0096> ah lol
#1366 [05:12] <genshou> too bad about those two trees I had to cut down
#1367 [05:13] <genshou> I'll just plant two new ones in better spots. Those spots sucked anyway :P
#1368 [05:13] * genshou is very picky about not deforesting his world
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#1370 [05:16] <genshou> So far, I've only permanently removed 5 trees from my world. One was on my respawn island (which I'm later going to turn into a safe haven tower with a launch pad to a sky castle built on "clouds" (read: cloth)), two were in the spot I chose to build my greenhouse (so I turned two trees into 64 plus a wheat field), and two were in the way of my minecart bridge.
#1371 [05:18] <kage-ookami> with yloth you actually mean wool? *gg*
#1372 [05:18] <genshou> yeah
#1373 [05:18] <genshou> I've been roaming around in the daytime kicking sheep whenever I don't have anything better to do, but I'll probably just end up using string from my mob grinder to get more
#1374 [05:19] <Tito0096> I need mincraft D:
#1375 [05:19] <Tito0096> I need it on my ubuntu install
#1376 [05:19] <genshou> Does Beta work in a web browser you can use on ubuntu?
#1377 [05:19] <Tito0096> no
#1378 [05:20] <Tito0096> It just doesnt show up
#1379 [05:20] <Tito0096> leme try firefox
#1380 [05:20] <genshou> a direct problem with the javascript, then D:
#1381 [05:20] <Tito0096> I installed JRE though :(
#1382 [05:20] <kage-ookami> get the jar file and run it in a xterm...
#1383 [05:20] <Tito0096> k
#1384 [05:20] * Tito0096 needs command, because he doesn't know it yet
#1384 [05:20] <kage-ookami> I don't have ubuntu, but I run it on a linux system. it works fine.
#1385 [05:21] <Tito0096> it should work
#1386 [05:21] <Tito0096> i know
#1387 [05:21] <kage-ookami> java -jar minecraft.jar
#1388 [05:21] <Tito0096> ah k
#1389 [05:21] <genshou> Anyone in here an experienced minecart user? xD
#1390 [05:21] <kage-ookami> or - if you get memory problems -Xms256M -Xmx256M as additional options.
#1391 [05:22] <Tito0096> #
#1392 [05:22] <Tito0096> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#1393 [05:22] <Tito0096> #
#1394 [05:22] <Tito0096> # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x0039f416, pid=2700, tid=3028532080
#1395 [05:22] <Tito0096> #
#1396 [05:22] <Tito0096> # JRE version: 6.0_20-b20
#1397 [05:22] <Tito0096> # Java VM: OpenJDK Client VM (19.0-b09 mixed mode, sharing linux-x86 )
#1398 [05:22] <Tito0096> # Derivative: IcedTea6 1.9.2
#1399 [05:22] <Tito0096> # Distribution: Ubuntu 10.10, package 6b20-1.9.2-0ubuntu2
#1400 [05:22] <Tito0096> # Problematic frame:
#1401 [05:22] <genshou> flood D:
#1402 [05:22] <Tito0096> # C [+0x416] __kernel_vsyscall+0x2
#1403 [05:22] <Tito0096> #
#1404 [05:22] <Tito0096> # An error report file with more information is saved as:
#1405 [05:22] <Tito0096> # /home/tito/hs_err_pid2700.log
#1406 [05:22] <genshou> next time use pastebin :<
#1407 [05:22] <Tito0096> [thread -1265415312 also had an error]
#1408 [05:22] <Tito0096> #
#1409 [05:22] <Tito0096> # If you would like to submit a bug report, please include
#1410 [05:22] <Tito0096> # instructions how to reproduce the bug and visit:
#1411 [05:22] <Tito0096> # https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/
#1412 [05:22] <Tito0096> #
#1413 [05:22] <Tito0096> Aborted
#1414 [05:22] <Tito0096> tito@Tito-Linuxbox:~
#1415 [05:22] <Tito0096> ah okay lol
#1416 [05:22] <kage-ookami> I use Sun JDK 1.6...
#1417 [05:23] <genshou> Reason I'm asking about minecarts is...
#1418 [05:23] <Tito0096> where do i get that? I thought you just get the jdk at java.com lol
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#1420 [05:23] <genshou> I want to design a four-way "rail depot" where the "arrival cart" from any given direction gives a boost to a stationary "departing cart" that loops around and jumps onto the same track the "arrival" just came in on. Then the "arrival cart" ends up right where the "departing" was sitting beforehand.
#1421 [05:24] <kage-ookami> Tito0096: that depends on your distro. you *can* get it at suns webpage, but its safer to use your distro's package manager instead.
#1422 [05:24] <Tito0096> crap i remember seeing a video describing that exact thing
#1423 [05:24] <Tito0096> and k
#1424 [05:24] <genshou> I'm sure there are other, possibly more complex ways to do that with minecarts, but I was wondering if anyone here has a super awesome rail depot I can download and take a peek at? xD
#1425 [05:25] <genshou> what I want to do is every 1km, in every direction, make a rail depot so I can ride around my entire world to see the sights.
#1426 [05:25] <genshou> I may use an inventory editor to get the cart tracks for that though xD
#1427 [05:25] <Tito0096> kage-ookami: what exactly do i look for in the package manager? sun jdk?
#1428 [05:25] <kage-ookami> genshou: sorry, not yet enough iron for that... probably should have used less iron on buckets, pickaxes and armor...
#1429 [05:26] <genshou> hehe, I only made a single iron pick
#1430 [05:26] <genshou> by the time it broke I had 6 diamond gems
#1431 [05:26] <kage-ookami> Tito0096: I'd serach for jdk and then look if sun's jdk is in the list of results.
#1432 [05:26] <Pistol> wow
#1433 [05:27] <genshou> I didn't even find iron before I'd already found the 6 diamond blocks
#1434 [05:27] * kage-ookami want's that kind of luck with diamond veins.
#1434 [05:27] <genshou> so I kept the torches in those tunnels and didn't seal them off
#1435 [05:27] * Tito0096 only sees open jdk
#1435 [05:27] <genshou> Search down by bedrock and you'll find lots of redstone and a fair amount of diamond.
#1436 [05:27] <Pistol> yeah
#1437 [05:27] <genshou> ...and a lot of lava, so maybe a certain number of squares above bedrock works best ;)
#1438 [05:29] <kage-ookami> Tito0096: google for "ubuntu sun jdk" results in: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-ubuntu-linux-install-configure-jdk-jre/
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#1440 [05:29] <Tito0096> kage-ookami, I was looking at the package manager
#1441 [05:29] <kage-ookami> genshou: I read that about 10-20 above bedrock lava is much less common. and if you don't need redstone, another 10 upwards.
#1442 [05:29] <kage-ookami> Tito0096: I can't as I don't have ubuntu :)
#1443 [05:30] <genshou> Diamond is < 20 blocks from bedrock though.
#1444 [05:30] <Tito0096> I know i know lol
#1445 [05:30] <genshou> So you can't go too high
#1446 [05:32] * Tito0096 sighs
#1446 [05:32] <Tito0096> that page is really outdated lol
#1447 [05:32] <Tito0096> none of the instructions work now
#1448 [05:33] <Tito0096> thanks for the google though
#1449 [05:33] <kage-ookami> well minecraft should work with openjre (or jdk?) though... not sure what crashes your java runtime...
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#1451 [05:35] <Tito0096> its that frame that opens i guess
#1452 [05:35] <Tito0096> C [+0x416] __kernel_vsyscall+0x2
#1453 [05:36] <kage-ookami> did you take a look at the linux requirements on the wiki? Not sure if some sdl/sound/whatever things are needed as well.
#1454 [05:39] <Tito0096> i found a page
#1455 [05:39] <Tito0096> :)
#1456 [05:39] <Tito0096> http://timashley.me/node/596
#1457 [05:39] <Tito0096> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1537099&page=2
#1458 [05:39] <Tito0096> from that
#1459 [05:42] <Tito0096> oh great i am stuck on a jre agreement page and i dont know how to accept it
#1460 [05:42] <Tito0096> (in terminal)
#1461 [05:42] <Tito0096> nm
#1462 [05:42] <Tito0096> arrowkeys
#1463 [05:44] <genshou> nuuuuuu, not again D:
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#1465 [05:44] <genshou> random creeper asploded right outside my base, creating yet another ugly crater
#1466 [05:46] <Tito0096> LOL
#1467 [05:46] <Tito0096> I love having a beach castle because sand is abundant
#1468 [05:46] <Tito0096> allthough
#1469 [05:46] <genshou> I wouldn't travel at night if not for the fact that my mine was underneath free-hanging sand that dislodged as I threw torches around
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#1471 [05:46] <genshou> so monsters can get into my crafting/storage area
#1472 [05:47] <genshou> I would normally use my future minecart tunnel, but I just disassembled the bridge connection D:
#1473 [05:47] <kage-ookami> free hanging sand above caverns can be quite annoying...
#1474 [05:47] <genshou> indeed =_=
#1475 [05:48] <genshou> I nearly suffocated because I forgot to look up before I started tossing torches
#1476 [05:48] <kage-ookami> especially if water as in ocean/waterlevel is above that sand >,<
#1477 [05:48] <Tito0096> why isnt this working :(
#1478 [05:48] <Tito0096> i wan minecraft
#1479 [05:49] <genshou> Use Windows for stuff that is finicky with ubuntu? D:
#1480 [05:51] <genshou> Hmm. Which is a better cloud block, snow or wool? :v
#1481 [05:51] <kage-ookami> bah! windoze...
#1482 [05:51] <Tito0096> I know
#1483 [05:51] <Tito0096> i love linux
#1484 [05:51] <kage-ookami> genshou: I'd say wool, as snow can melt?
#1485 [05:51] <Tito0096> <3
#1486 [05:51] <kage-ookami> Tito0096: if you don't mind waiting longer for updates, try Gentoo. Compiles everything from source, so you can hunt down these pesky bugs yourself :P
#1487 [05:52] <Tito0096> Gentoo </> ubuntu?
#1488 [05:52] <genshou> I guess my torch placement would be limited if it can melt snow through the floor.
#1489 [05:52] * genshou will stick with wool.
#1489 [05:52] <Tito0096> (which symbol do you prefer)
#1490 [05:55] <kage-ookami> Tito0096: gentoo is a completely different distribution. Much more hardcore, as you need to understand what you are doing much more than with binary distributions like (k)ubuntu
#1491 [05:55] <Tito0096> gnome? or kde
#1492 [05:55] <Pistol> :[]
#1493 [05:56] <Pistol> That not command line -.-
#1494 [05:56] <kage-ookami> gentoo, you get your choice. ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde :)
#1495 [05:57] <Tito0096> i see
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#1497 [05:59] <Tito0096> meh ill stick with ubuntu
#1498 [05:59] <Tito0096> ill go with other distros
#1499 [05:59] <Tito0096> once i get reaquainted with linux again
#1500 [06:00] <kage-ookami> Tito0096: can you work with vi/vim, emacs or other terminal based editors? That's something you need when starting with gentoo :)
#1501 [06:01] * Tito0096 mumbles and drools
#1501 [06:02] * Tito0096 hints a no
#1501 [06:03] <Pistol> Lol how long do trees take to grow?
#1502 [06:05] <fogWraith> A day or two
#1503 [06:05] <kage-ookami> 1-2 days of light?
#1504 [06:06] <Pistol> Then they stop growing?
#1505 [06:07] <genshou> yeah, it grows all at once and stops
#1506 [06:07] <genshou> the height is random
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#1508 [06:08] <Pistol> ok thanks
#1509 [06:08] <genshou> if you're setting up a tree farm it's recommended you set a glass ceiling to prevent larger trees from growing, unless you don't mind making dirt towers to climb up and chop wood
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#1511 [06:09] <genshou> I think you need 6 blocks of height to grow trees (including the block the sapling starts in)
#1512 [06:09] <kage-ookami> never had a tree that was high enough for me to need a tower...
#1513 [06:09] <genshou> kage-ookami, the main trunk can go up to 13 blocks tall
#1514 [06:10] <kage-ookami> wow. nice...
#1515 [06:10] <genshou> if a very tall tree on a hillside combines with another fairly tall tree that is further up the hill, the leaves can get messy and it's hard to dig your way through to all the branches xD
#1516 [06:10] <kage-ookami> meh - branches are easily dug out...
#1517 [06:11] <genshou> not when they're 13 blocks above ground :o
#1518 [06:11] <genshou> thus, shorter trees make for easier harvesting, though at the cost of less yield per tree
#1519 [06:11] <Pistol> lol
#1520 [06:12] <genshou> When I get down to my last stack of logs and need to get more, the last thing I want to do is cut my way through a 15x15 chunk of leaves 6 or 7 stacks tall.
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#1522 [06:12] <genshou> Easier to cut a bunch of trees with trunks exactly 4 blocks high.
#1523 [06:13] <kage-ookami> I like them a bit higher... 5-6 blocks.
#1524 [06:13] <genshou> Then it starts raining saplings in short order, and I can go back to mining while it regrows :)
#1525 [06:13] <genshou> Anyway, looks like it's bedtime for me
#1526 [06:13] <genshou> (it's only just past 4am!)
#1527 [06:14] <kage-ookami> just past high noon :P
#1528 [06:15] <Pistol> ROFLMAO *Finishes banking, and turns arround. :X <- my face as I look up to see a single fully grown tree with like 60 nearbye that havent grown at all lol.
#1529 [06:16] <Tito0096> I need minecraft :(
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#1531 [06:40] * Kealper yawns
#1531 [06:43] <Kealper> !unload mod_op
#1532 [06:45] <fogWraith> O_o
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#1534 [06:47] <Kealper> o.o
#1535 [06:48] <kage-ookami> >(^.^)<
#1536 [06:48] <Kealper> xchat fails..it doesn't show AuBot as being voiced...
#1537 [06:48] <Kealper> so i sat there trying to voice it like 10 times wondering why nothing happened until i whois'd it -.-
#1538 [06:49] <fogWraith> Ah :P
#1539 [06:51] <kage-ookami> Kealper: that's a common problem with different clients... higher mode obfuscates the lower one >,<
#1540 [06:52] <Kealper> that was a huge amount of spam in my screen at once
#1541 [06:52] <Kealper> but sadly...it did not help at all
#1542 [06:52] <kage-ookami> what was spam?
#1543 [06:52] <Kealper> i typed /userlist lol
#1544 [06:53] <kage-ookami> um... thanks, but no thanks.
#1545 [06:53] <Kealper> xchat found it appropriate to tell me all 134 users on individual lines lol
#1546 [06:53] <kage-ookami> that's because the server sends you 134 single messages. one per user.
#1547 [06:53] <Kealper> but sadly, that did not rerequest the userlisr for the channel -.-
#1548 [06:54] <kage-ookami> Kealper: try /who
#1549 [06:54] <kage-ookami> without any argument :P
#1550 [06:54] <Kealper> and the server sends the userlist as a ton of names per packet, space-separated
#1551 [06:55] <kage-ookami> heh userlist is an unknown command :P
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#1553 [06:56] <Kealper> yea this seems specialized to xchat, it gives me their hostnames and everything when i use it so it must update it when people join/leave
#1554 [06:57] <kage-ookami> well, the question is which raw command does xchat send when calling /userlist. if its the WHO #channel command, it sends one user per line.
#1555 [06:57] <kage-ookami> or what xchat needs to update the list of users >,<
#1556 [06:58] <Kealper> that was pretty instant, i doubt it got it from the servers
#1557 [06:58] * Kealper kicked AuBot from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: AuBot)
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#1559 [06:58] <Kealper> ok...there we go
#1560 [06:58] <kage-ookami> with todays speed, you won't see much delay in IRC commands. Should be pretty instant.
#1561 [06:59] <Kealper> yea a who to the channel just came up in my server window, not the channel window
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#1563 [07:00] <kage-ookami> WHO is quite spammy, if the client doesn't intercept the raw messages to interpret them itself.
#1564 [07:02] <Pistol> any1? Installing ModLoader Fix ...
#1565 [07:02] <Pistol> ... java.io.IOException: Error in writing existing jar file
#1566 [07:02] <Pistol> at sun.tools.jar.Main.run(Unknown Source)
#1567 [07:02] <Kealper> Pistol: type !motd
#1568 [07:03] <Pistol> at sun.tools.jar.Main.main(Unknown Source) Done! Press any key to continue . . .
#1569 [07:03] <Pistol> ?
#1570 [07:03] <Pistol> !motd
#1571 [07:03] <Kealper> the bold red text answers your question
#1572 [07:03] <Pistol> Yes?
#1573 [07:03] <Pistol> You do not
#1574 [07:03] <Pistol> But maybe someone here knows -.-
#1575 [07:03] <Zenreich> sigh
#1576 [07:04] <Zenreich> Pistol, not in this channel. And have you tried google?
#1577 [07:04] <Kealper> Pistol: this is not a discussion place for mods or 3rd party software
#1578 [07:04] <Kealper> what he said
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#1580 [07:04] <Pistol> -.-
#1581 [07:08] <Pistol> ..
#1582 [07:10] <Kealper> you're not going to find any help for mods in here... try #risucraft or #hey0
#1583 [07:11] <Pistol> Lol stupid thing has no manual installation -.-
#1584 [07:12] <Zenreich> Yes it does :/
#1585 [07:13] <Pistol> :P
#1586 [07:14] <kage-ookami> Kealper: now you know why you were missing voice on the bot :P
#1587 [07:14] <Kealper> i hate AuBot having op :S
#1588 [07:15] <kage-ookami> ./mode #somechannel -o GLaDOS :P
#1589 [07:15] <Kealper> he'd skin me alive lol
#1590 [07:15] <GLaDOS> /chanserv #MineCraftHelp op GLaDOS; deop Kealper
#1591 [07:16] <GLaDOS> your point is invalid
#1592 [07:16] <Kealper> ^
#1593 [07:19] <Mjiig> did everyone have a good christmas
#1594 [07:19] <Kealper> it was meh, i got to fix my guitar
#1595 [07:23] <Pistol> Omg lol walking back along a shaft in my mine and see a skeleton >.<
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#1609 [09:06] <ferdinand> hich server is for multiplayer?
#1610 [09:06] <ferdinand> i cant find it:$
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#1617 [09:41] <Phelps> so I'm still getting "Took too long to login"
#1618 [09:42] <Kealper> :/
#1619 [09:42] <Phelps> I think I'm just going to give up
#1620 [09:42] <Phelps> Theres a point when its not worth it.
#1621 [09:42] <Phelps> CentOS > Ubuntu Server
#1622 [09:42] <Phelps> didn't fix it
#1623 [09:42] <Kealper> woh
#1624 [09:43] <Kealper> then it's got to be a problem with your network....... (?)
#1625 [09:43] <Phelps> traceroute is fine
#1626 [09:43] <Kealper> weird
#1627 [09:43] <Phelps> and its unusually short too
#1628 [09:43] <Phelps> never hits savvis or level3
#1629 [09:43] <Phelps> almost like its in the same city/state
#1630 [09:43] <Kealper> O.o
#1631 [09:44] <Phelps> ohh wait no
#1632 [09:44] <Phelps> it hits 1 level3
#1633 [09:44] <Phelps> but thats it
#1634 [09:44] <Phelps> 13 hips
#1635 [09:44] <Phelps> hops *
#1636 [09:44] <Phelps> http://pastie.org/1406539
#1637 [09:46] <Kealper> weird...mine is almost the same
#1638 [09:46] <Kealper> 15 hops
#1639 [09:46] <Phelps> he must be deep then
#1640 [09:46] <Phelps> although
#1641 [09:47] <Phelps> on my server it takes about 10x longer to finish the trace
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#1644 [09:47] <Kealper> very weird
#1645 [09:48] <Phelps> it very well could be the hardware, I just don't want that to be the problem
#1646 [09:49] <Kealper> :/
#1647 [09:49] <Phelps> I have a 1U server in cali. that I got as a RTO I could have mailed to me if I ever front the money for it.
#1648 [09:49] <Phelps> PacificRack has some nice RTO options
#1649 [09:49] <Kealper> nice lol
#1650 [09:50] <Phelps> for like $10/m more, you RTO your server, and in one year, its yours
#1651 [09:50] <Phelps> which is nice
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#1655 [09:57] <Linkinus> uhh
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#1657 [09:57] <Kealper> O.o
#1658 [09:57] <Phelps> sigh
#1659 [09:58] <Kealper> centos makes me feel dumb...lol
#1660 [09:58] <Phelps> my problem makes me feel dumb
#1661 [09:58] <Kealper> i've got no idea what i'm doing on this thing -.-
#1662 [09:58] <Phelps> heh
#1663 [09:58] <Phelps> its easy
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#1665 [09:58] <Kealper> your problem makes me feel dumb aswell
#1666 [09:58] <Phelps> what you tryin to do
#1667 [09:59] <Kealper> get irssi set up...but the thing is: i don't have root...and i won't be able to ask what the password is again for another hour or so...
#1668 [09:59] <Phelps> what you need root for
#1669 [10:00] <Phelps> could just ask the root to wheel you
#1670 [10:00] <Kealper> i was reading some crap after doing some googling...
#1671 [10:00] <Kealper> and i guess there is some rpm repo that has irssi in it...
#1672 [10:00] <fork> <3 irssi
#1673 [10:00] <Phelps> irssi should never run as root, so shouldnt really need it, might need to to access compilers, but thats about it
#1674 [10:00] <fork> ive been using irssi since i was in high school :x
#1675 [10:00] <Kealper> yea i didn't want it to run as root, but i was going to add this repo and it yelled at me
#1676 [10:01] <fork> irssi isnt installed?
#1677 [10:01] <Kealper> nope
#1678 [10:01] <fork> oh that sucks
#1679 [10:01] <Phelps> might need perl or something for plugins
#1680 [10:01] <Kealper> hell screen was not even installed
#1681 [10:01] <Phelps> damn
#1682 [10:01] <fork> no gnu box is complete without irssi <3
#1683 [10:01] <Kealper> the one thing it does have is perl lol
#1684 [10:01] <Kealper> wait...lemme confirm that
#1685 [10:01] <fork> and i <3 perl
#1686 [10:01] <kage-ookami> *nix box w/o screen? Who set that one up >,<
#1687 [10:01] <fork> i am the lone perl fan
#1688 [10:02] <fork> wtf no screen
#1689 [10:02] <Phelps> perl is aight
#1690 [10:02] <Kealper> ok yes, it does have perl lol
#1691 [10:02] <Phelps> python on the other hand
#1692 [10:02] <Kealper> yuk
#1693 [10:02] <Kealper> i can't stand python
#1694 [10:02] <fork> python is for people who cant handle decipering cryptic perl
#1695 [10:02] <Phelps> who ever though whitespace should matter that much should be punched in the face
#1696 [10:02] <fork> i dont like being FORCED to change my style
#1697 [10:02] <Kealper> this
#1698 [10:02] <Kealper> this so much
#1699 [10:02] <fork> if i want it readable ill make it readable. if not fuck off
#1700 [10:03] <Phelps> yeah
#1701 [10:03] <Phelps> i was like... ima try python one day
#1702 [10:03] <Phelps> that night... i killed people
#1703 [10:03] <fork> maybe for enterprise python is good because if they fire you someone else can pick up where you left off easily
#1704 [10:03] <fork> perl is job security
#1705 [10:03] <fork> bahahaha
#1706 [10:03] <Kealper> lol
#1707 [10:03] <Phelps> i learned PHP first
#1708 [10:03] <Phelps> big... big... mistake
#1709 [10:03] <fork> phpoop
#1710 [10:03] <kage-ookami> yikes, I really don't like that one.
#1711 [10:04] <fork> its ok but im not a fan
#1712 [10:04] <Phelps> PHP is amazing
#1713 [10:04] <kage-ookami> rather spagetticode-perl than php
#1714 [10:04] <Kealper> i learned perl first, then realized that php was a bastardized perl
#1715 [10:04] <Phelps> just not something you should learn first
#1716 [10:04] <fork> kage-ookami: me2
#1717 [10:04] <Phelps> best language by far though
#1718 [10:04] <Phelps> Objective-C
#1719 [10:04] <kage-ookami> and I don't like perl. I like nice and readable code. even only for myself.
#1720 [10:04] <Phelps> with Coca
#1721 [10:04] <Kealper> orly?
#1722 [10:04] <Phelps> ohh yeah
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#1724 [10:04] <fork> i keep my shit readable even in perl
#1725 [10:04] <Phelps> have you see OS X IDE ?
#1726 [10:04] <Kealper> nope
#1727 [10:04] <Phelps> for Objective-C
#1728 [10:04] <fork> for instance my irssi jerkcity script is plenty readable
#1729 [10:04] <Phelps> let me screen it
#1730 [10:05] <Phelps> Xcode is AMAZING
#1731 [10:05] <fork> it allows me to do things such as: [no ban pls]
#1732 [10:05] <fork> CHEERS TO PRICKS!!!!!! JEERS TO LOCKS/DEADBOLTS.
#1733 [10:05] <Kealper> lolwut
#1734 [10:05] <Phelps> http://benphelps.me/ss/82672854df28cf0b35dbab3ccc2732e9.png
#1735 [10:06] <Phelps> wish that made shorter URLs
#1736 [10:06] <Kealper> O.o
#1737 [10:06] <Kealper> it's so......simple...
#1738 [10:06] <Phelps> check out
#1739 [10:06] <Phelps> Interface Builder
#1740 [10:06] <fork> my jerkcity script is actually about 20,000% more complex than it should be
#1741 [10:07] <Kealper> lol
#1742 [10:07] * kage-ookami likes to just use bashscript and run it from the irc-client >,<
#1742 [10:07] <fork> the entire purpose is to spam jerkcity lines. but ive added the ability to search and index, and spam them in color
#1743 [10:07] <fork> and public commands for !jerk
#1744 [10:07] <fork> :x
#1745 [10:07] <Kealper> lol
#1746 [10:07] <fork> it fucks up channels though so i dont allow it often
#1747 [10:08] <fork> i put in tons of irssi variables for it too
#1748 [10:08] <Phelps> this is Interface Builder
#1749 [10:08] <Phelps> http://benphelps.me/ss/18352903e01e487413a45fc41597e23a.png
#1750 [10:08] <Phelps> I guess its Apples version of Visual Basic GUI Editor
#1751 [10:08] <Phelps> but not shitty
#1752 [10:08] <fork> ew apple
#1753 [10:08] <Kealper> wow...
#1754 [10:09] <fork> visual basic :|
#1755 [10:09] <fork> isnt that banned on planet earth now
#1756 [10:09] <Phelps> i would show you more, but it kinda requires a video or something
#1757 [10:09] <Kealper> if there is one think that i can give credit to apple for....is simplicity in the most complex things :S
#1758 [10:09] <Phelps> ohh
#1759 [10:09] <Phelps> it gets better
#1760 [10:09] <Phelps> i came the first time i used it
#1761 [10:09] <Kealper> lol
#1762 [10:09] <fork> simplicity is what apple is all about
#1763 [10:09] <fork> dumb it down, LCD
#1764 [10:10] <fork> never forget the one-button mouse
#1765 [10:10] <Kealper> xD
#1766 [10:10] <fork> i had an apple PC once upon a time
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#1768 [10:11] <Phelps> wekk
#1769 [10:11] <fork> the last apple PC i had was an Apple IIe
#1770 [10:11] <Phelps> If you right click on an object and drag it to another, you get a list of options on how the can interact with each other
#1771 [10:11] <fork> and even that was trash, except that i could play oregon trail on it
#1772 [10:11] <Phelps> i cant get a SS of me dragging it, but i can get one of the list
#1773 [10:12] <Phelps> this is a scroll bar, to a text box
#1774 [10:12] <Phelps> http://benphelps.me/ss/10e877cfa69bd69d3f0d6b9c5af50b3e.png
#1775 [10:13] <Phelps> fork: im using that shitty mouse right now
#1776 [10:13] <fork> cue link to typical mac user image
#1777 [10:13] <Phelps> the fuckin mighty mouse
#1778 [10:13] <Phelps> worst mouse ever made
#1779 [10:13] <Phelps> by far
#1780 [10:13] <fork> shouldnt you be swimming
#1781 [10:13] <fork> or taking hits from a bong
#1782 [10:13] <Kealper> LOL
#1783 [10:13] <Phelps> ohh your funny
#1784 [10:13] <Phelps> i was Phelps first
#1785 [10:13] <Phelps> that dick stole my thunder
#1786 [10:13] <fork> lol
#1787 [10:14] <Kealper> lol
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#1789 [10:14] <Phelps> we do have things in common though
#1790 [10:14] <Phelps> both can smoke the shit out of some weed
#1791 [10:14] <fork> perspective. because one buttoned mouse > gold medals
#1792 [10:14] <Phelps> NO!
#1793 [10:14] <Phelps> might mouse is shit
#1794 [10:14] <Phelps> mighty
#1795 [10:14] <Phelps> its like
#1796 [10:14] <Phelps> i cant even explain
#1797 [10:14] <Phelps> idk
#1798 [10:15] <fork> does your apple even know what to do with more buttons
#1799 [10:15] <Phelps> yeah
#1800 [10:15] <Phelps> i use a razor naga
#1801 [10:15] <Phelps> but
#1802 [10:15] <fork> id imagine if i put a 5 buttoned mouse into an apple it would implode
#1803 [10:15] <Phelps> it brokededed
#1804 [10:15] <Phelps> actually
#1805 [10:15] <Phelps> macs use more key presses and mouse interaction that windows
#1806 [10:15] <Phelps> than **
#1807 [10:16] <Phelps> my mighty mouse, the "one" button mouse
#1808 [10:16] <Phelps> has 6 buttons and a scroll wheel
#1809 [10:16] <fork> suffice to say you have to click more to get the same thing done
#1810 [10:16] <Phelps> no
#1811 [10:16] <Phelps> if i want to switch to another app, but i cant see it
#1812 [10:16] <Phelps> 2 clicks
#1813 [10:16] <Phelps> done
#1814 [10:16] <Phelps> well
#1815 [10:16] <Phelps> 1
#1816 [10:17] * Kealper cries at the form designer that his choice language has -.-
#1816 [10:17] <fork> o
#1817 [10:17] <Phelps> but i never use the dock
#1818 [10:17] <Phelps> so i use spaces
#1819 [10:17] <fork> i just use alt+tab or ctrl+a+[number] or or or
#1820 [10:17] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/8cDWA.png <-- it's so horrible
#1821 [10:17] <fork> haha
#1822 [10:17] <fork> kill with fire
#1823 [10:18] <Kealper> i don't even use it...and i hate it to death when i see it used lol
#1824 [10:18] <fork> making an AOL punter r u
#1825 [10:18] <Phelps> mac also has an AMAZING irc client
#1826 [10:18] <Phelps> http://benphelps.me/ss/cc75bd9342d79d1db3037ce986272b39.png
#1827 [10:18] <Kealper> woh
#1828 [10:19] <Kealper> my xchat is crying now
#1829 [10:19] <fork> lol
#1830 [10:19] <Phelps> most mac apps follow this almost like, un-written rule set
#1831 [10:19] <Phelps> there all simple and to the point
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#1833 [10:20] <fork> yea
#1834 [10:20] <fork> that is the point
#1835 [10:20] <Phelps> thats really why I like my mac the most, almost all the apps are awesome, and I dont have to worry about and spyware or adware (yet)
#1836 [10:20] <fork> keep it simple so people with a 1-buttoned mouse can use it
#1837 [10:20] <Phelps> im tellin ya
#1838 [10:20] <Phelps> that mouse man
#1839 [10:20] <Phelps> i fuckin hate it
#1840 [10:20] <Kealper> XD
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#1842 [10:21] <Phelps> wanna see my ftp client
#1843 [10:21] <Kealper> the only thing that makes me hate apple is their prices :S
#1844 [10:21] <fork> hippie mouse
#1845 [10:21] <Phelps> it will make filezilla cry
#1846 [10:21] <fork> steals your weed when youre not looking. apple got sued for that actually
#1847 [10:21] <Kealper> alright, my filezilla is awaiting it's asswhooping, screen it
#1848 [10:22] <fork> tbqh the thing that turns me off about apple is the fans
#1849 [10:22] <Kealper> yea the fangirls suck aswell
#1850 [10:22] <Phelps> this is my FTP/SFTP client
#1851 [10:22] <Phelps> also works with Amazon Cloud
#1852 [10:22] <Phelps> some other shit i dont use
#1853 [10:22] <Phelps> http://benphelps.me/ss/7c23aa37c30a3e215d4e7513391f7c9e.png
#1854 [10:22] <fork> eat organic, drive a hybrid, wear hipster clothing, buy an apple
#1855 [10:23] <Kealper> minechan ftp access O.o
#1856 [10:23] <Phelps> what... noooo
#1857 [10:23] <Phelps> shhhh
#1858 [10:23] <fork> what is minechan. or do i even want to know
#1859 [10:23] <Kealper> WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?!
#1860 [10:23] <Kealper> lol
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#1862 [10:26] <Phelps> i could go on with SS of apps
#1863 [10:26] <Phelps> that are amazing
#1864 [10:26] <Phelps> but i wont
#1865 [10:26] <Phelps> im startin to get a lil fanboy on myself
#1866 [10:26] <Phelps> try not to do that
#1867 [10:27] <Kealper> meh..it just makes me want to try a mac even more...but that damn price >.>
#1868 [10:27] <Phelps> yeah, thats what I thought too when I bought it
#1869 [10:27] <Phelps> but its soooo worth it
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#1871 [10:28] <Kealper> it's not that i don't want to drop $1k for a macbook or something...it's that i actually don't have that kind of money to begin with lol
#1872 [10:28] <kage-ookami> meh. stupid ISP kicking me every now and then...
#1873 [10:28] <Phelps> I sold a website and bought mine
#1874 [10:28] <Kealper> lol
#1875 [10:29] <Phelps> cronless.com
#1876 [10:29] <Phelps> they made it ugly
#1877 [10:29] <Phelps> but its there shithole of a site now, so w/e
#1878 [10:29] <Kealper> Free Cron Jobs!
#1879 [10:29] <Phelps> ill cron your job... for free
#1880 [10:29] <Kealper> man to someone who does not know what a cron job is...that could be taken so wrong
#1881 [10:29] <Phelps> ohh i know
#1882 [10:30] <Phelps> thats why its awesome
#1883 [10:30] <Kealper> lol
#1884 [10:30] * kage-ookami giggles
#1884 [10:31] <Kealper> oh joy....the guy that actually pays the bills on that server i wanted irssi on is here...
#1885 [10:31] * Kealper makes him install irssi to my account
#1885 [10:31] <Phelps> you know
#1886 [10:31] <Kealper> although
#1887 [10:32] <kage-ookami> ./configure --prefix=$HOME ;)
#1888 [10:32] <Kealper> i really should do it myself so i know how next time
#1889 [10:32] <Phelps> i downloaded something the other day, did my routine ./configure and it errord at the end with something like "you didnt read the readme, dumb fuck"
#1890 [10:32] * fogWraith installs rogue instead of irssi for Kealper
#1890 [10:32] <Phelps> i was like o.O
#1891 [10:32] <kage-ookami> and you don't even need root if you use that prefix. everything goes to $HOME/bin and $HOME/lib
#1892 [10:32] <Kealper> rogue O.o
#1893 [10:33] <Kealper> hmm...yum....
#1894 [10:33] * Kealper is only familiar with debian based nix -.-
#1894 [10:34] <kage-ookami> Phelps: remember what that was? I think I've seen some similar error in some config files: die "rtfm you moron"
#1895 [10:34] <fogWraith> "You Won ONE MILLION POUNDS In The British Tobacco Xmas Promo, Send Details"
#1896 [10:34] <Phelps> nah, it was some odd dependency and ive cleared the build folder since
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#1898 [10:35] <Phelps> i was like... rude ass developers, gah
#1899 [10:35] <Phelps> all i had to do was run autogen.sj
#1900 [10:35] <Phelps> sh *
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#1902 [10:35] <kage-ookami> Kealper: this configure script is something used when compiling something from sourcecode - bypassing any package manager. So it's not dependant on distribution. You just need to know how to work with GNU Make.
#1903 [10:36] <Phelps> debian aka dependency hell
#1904 [10:37] <Phelps> i guess and distro that uses .deb as its package source
#1905 [10:37] <kage-ookami> I've had dep-hells with SuSE and Gentoo as well... ubuntu never tickled my interest.
#1906 [10:37] <Phelps> any **** ffs
#1907 [10:37] <Phelps> i like yum
#1908 [10:37] <Phelps> yum yum yum
#1909 [10:38] <kage-ookami> portage ftw. I can now write my own ebuild, at last.
#1910 [10:39] <Phelps> too lazy
#1911 [10:39] <Phelps> if something doesnt work, ill wait until it does
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#1913 [10:40] <kage-ookami> you can do that with portage as well, but I want to make it work. Can't stand something not working as I want it.
#1914 [10:40] * kage-ookami had KDE4 installed about 1-2hrs after the devs released the code.
#1914 [10:44] <Kealper> configure: error: GLIB is required to build irssi.
#1915 [10:44] <Kealper> :(
#1916 [10:45] <kage-ookami> Kealper: well now it's time to call your admin :=)
#1917 [10:46] <Kealper> convinient, because he's at my house right now....
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#1920 [10:59] <xales> lol
#1921 [11:00] <xales> where are you getting that Kealper?
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#1925 [11:07] <Mikau> You shouldn't keep your admin locked in a cage in your basement, Kealper.
#1926 [11:07] <Mikau> It's not very nice.
#1927 [11:11] <kage-ookami> Everyone should have their admin chained somewhere, to be on call whenever needed :P
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#1938 [11:44] <Kealper> so like...doing yum install glibc only installs glib 2.5....gg
#1939 [11:44] <xales> lulz
#1940 [11:44] <xales> centos?
#1941 [11:44] <Kealper> irssi 0.8.15 needs 2.6+ -.-
#1942 [11:44] <Kealper> yea
#1943 [11:44] <xales> so
#1944 [11:44] <xales> manually install 2.6?
#1945 [11:44] <xales> or latest
#1946 [11:45] <xales> centos is screwy
#1947 [11:45] <Kealper> the more i'm using this...the more i'm hating it
#1948 [11:45] <xales> oh I know
#1949 [11:45] <xales> tr
#1950 [11:45] <xales> y
#1951 [11:45] <xales> yum install glibc-devel
#1952 [11:45] <Kealper> i'd be at home and comfy if this was running a debian os...but centos and me have never got along well
#1953 [11:46] <xales> centos is more out of date than debian-stable
#1954 [11:46] <xales> which is hard to do
#1955 [11:46] <Kealper> lol
#1956 [11:46] <Kealper> i wouldn't doubt it, latest glib is like 2.9....
#1957 [11:47] <xales> 2.11
#1958 [11:47] <xales> The current stable version is 2.11.2
#1959 [11:48] <Kealper> 2.11? damn everything about that machine is old
#1960 [11:48] <Kealper> and damn that is one easy root password
#1961 [11:49] <xales> lol
#1962 [11:49] <xales> did you see the list of when
#1963 [11:49] <xales> the lifehacker or whatever company owns them
#1964 [11:49] <xales> got their passwords leaked
#1965 [11:49] <Kealper> yeah, some of those were retarded
#1966 [11:49] <xales> and the most common passwords....unbelievablw
#1967 [11:49] <xales> oh I have a question to ask you
#1968 [11:49] <xales> gotta PM it though
#1969 [11:50] <Kealper> jesus what the fuck
#1970 [11:51] <Mushuukyou> I didn't know there were unbreakable blocks
#1971 [11:51] <Mushuukyou> or do I hvae to use something else
#1972 [11:51] <xales> bedrock
#1973 [11:51] <xales> is unbreakable
#1974 [11:51] <Kealper> bedrock and like 16 block radius around spawn are the only unbreakable things
#1975 [11:52] <xales> well, you can break it
#1976 [11:52] <Kealper> bedrock is totally unbreakable, spawn is only breakable by ops
#1977 [11:52] <xales> its just hard
#1978 [11:52] <Mushuukyou> it's like, a really dark rock
#1979 [11:52] <Mushuukyou> my pick isn't doing jack
#1980 [11:52] <xales> thats bedrock then
#1981 [11:52] <Kealper> ok...yes you can brake it if you sat there picking at it for 6 hours lol
#1982 [11:52] <Mushuukyou> ok
#1983 [11:52] <Mushuukyou> :)
#1984 [11:52] <xales> http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/adminium
#1985 [11:53] <Kealper> centos makes me so mad
#1986 [11:53] <xales> ._.
#1987 [11:53] <Kealper> glibc-devel package is 2.5 -.-
#1988 [11:54] <xales> Glibc 2.5 is the latest stable version in CentOS, so you have to use it. Otherwise you have to manually download install the Glibc from it's site.
#1989 [11:54] <xales> ._.
#1990 [11:55] <xales> if you want me to walk you through compiling it, I can help you do that
#1991 [11:55] <Kealper> please? lol
#1992 [11:55] <xales> sure
#1993 [11:55] <Kealper> first thing's first...should i be rooted or will standard user do?
#1994 [11:56] <xales> hmm
#1995 [11:56] <xales> root
#1996 [11:56] <Kealper> k
#1997 [11:56] <xales> then make a new directory and cd into that
#1998 [11:57] <Kealper> can we just take this to pm? i'd rather not embarass myself infront of 139 others :P
#1999 [11:57] <xales> sure
#2000 [11:57] <xales> lol
#2001 [11:59] <xales> you see the pm?
#2002 [12:02] <Mushuukyou> so they're gonna fix these endless torches eh. :)
#2003 [12:02] <Mushuukyou> guess that means we'll have to start sealing off parts of our dungeons with doors and get ready to fight in order to go down more
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#2005 [12:22] <Phelps> xales: im still getting "Took too long to login" on that server
#2006 [12:23] <Phelps> It's a hardware problem sadly
#2007 [12:23] <xales> :(
#2008 [12:25] * Kealper gives up on the quest to run irssi and will just stick with xchat on his windows box
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#2012 [12:34] <Mushuukyou> whoa, I guess that's lava.
#2013 [12:34] <kenai> whats teh command to kick peeps from your server?
#2014 [12:35] <Mikau> Something along the lines of "kick"
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#2016 [12:40] <barrycarlyon> lol
#2017 [12:40] <barrycarlyon> \
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#2022 [13:00] <Mushuukyou> isn't it better to make your house all stone?
#2023 [13:01] <Mushuukyou> instead of some of it wood
#2024 [13:01] <Mushuukyou> and is the smoothe stone better or does it mater
#2025 [13:01] <Mushuukyou> matter
#2026 [13:01] <xales> any block is equally good
#2027 [13:01] <xales> except gravel, which is retarded
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#2029 [13:02] <Mushuukyou> oh ok, so different stone isn't better than other stone
#2030 [13:02] <xales> no
#2031 [13:02] <Mushuukyou> I just want the best protection against the bomb mobs :P
#2032 [13:02] <xales> its all aethetic
#2033 [13:02] <Mushuukyou> oh ok
#2034 [13:02] <xales> the only protection
#2035 [13:03] <xales> thats higher than other blocks
#2036 [13:03] <xales> is obsidian
#2037 [13:03] <xales> so
#2038 [13:03] <xales> doesn't really matter what you use
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#2040 [13:04] <Mushuukyou> I'm near lava but I don't see any obsidian
#2041 [13:04] <Mushuukyou> lookin' for it
#2042 [13:05] <peru> go to the sea with bucket
#2043 [13:05] <peru> use it on sea
#2044 [13:05] <xales> no
#2045 [13:05] <xales> thats wrong
#2046 [13:05] <xales> also
#2047 [13:05] <peru> now you have bucket full of water
#2048 [13:05] <xales> you need a diamond pick for obsidian
#2049 [13:05] <xales> oh
#2050 [13:05] <xales> right
#2051 [13:05] <xales> yeah get a bucket and get water
#2052 [13:05] <xales> and then pour it out (next to) not (in) a pool of lava
#2053 [13:06] <xales> peru: I thought you meant pour the lava into the ocean -_-
#2054 [13:06] <Mushuukyou> oh ok
#2055 [13:07] <xales> also
#2056 [13:07] <xales> it takes 15 seconds per block
#2057 [13:07] <xales> to mine it
#2058 [13:07] <xales> its not a good idea to build a house with it
#2059 [13:07] <xales> and besides, creepers don't explode unless you are 1 block away
#2060 [13:08] <Mushuukyou> right
#2061 [13:08] <Mushuukyou> I've learned to hit and run
#2062 [13:08] <xales> just make a house out of whatever you find to look the best for where you are building it
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#2064 [13:13] <Mushuukyou> soon as I figure out how to amke a bucket
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#2066 [13:13] <peru> you have steel?
#2067 [13:13] <xales> just use the wiki
#2068 [13:13] <xales> ._.
#2069 [13:13] <xales> http://minecraftwiki.net
#2070 [13:14] <Mushuukyou> I"m on there now, it tells me about it but not how to amke it :P
#2071 [13:14] <Mushuukyou> no, don't have steel yet
#2072 [13:14] <Mushuukyou> guess I'll do that next
#2073 [13:14] <xales> then your looking in the wrng place
#2074 [13:14] <xales> if you dont have steel you cant get diamond, and you need diamond for obsidian anyway
#2075 [13:15] <Mushuukyou> ok
#2076 [13:15] <peru> find iron ore, mine it, put it in Furnace, -> you have steel
#2077 [13:16] <Mushuukyou> iron block > stone block for homes?
#2078 [13:16] <Mushuukyou> oh ok
#2079 [13:16] <Mushuukyou> i thought they make iron ingots
#2080 [13:16] <xales> they do
#2081 [13:17] <xales> and as I said
#2082 [13:17] <xales> every block is the exact same
#2083 [13:17] <xales> A dirt-block home is just as good in every way as a diamond-block home
#2084 [13:17] <Mushuukyou> i thought explosions hurt it less iwth stone than dirt
#2085 [13:17] <peru> ", -> you have steel" yeah i meant iron ingots
#2086 [13:17] <Mushuukyou> :)
#2087 [13:18] <xales> they do not
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#2089 [13:18] <xales> the only blocks that resist explosions more than every other block
#2090 [13:18] <xales> is bedrock and obsidian
#2091 [13:18] <xales> so once again, what block you use doesnt matter
#2092 [13:19] <xales> because you cant use bedrock
#2093 [13:19] <xales> and it isnt practical or worth the massive effort
#2094 [13:19] <xales> to make anything out of obsidian
#2095 [13:20] <peru> except portals to other world
#2096 [13:21] <xales> well
#2097 [13:21] <xales> you have no choice there
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#2100 [13:31] <mib_mt9srn> Anybody there?
#2101 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2102 [13:32] <mib_mt9srn> When you bought the game did it come up with a notification from securesuite.net asking for your card info and SSN?
#2103 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Um, no?
#2104 [13:32] <mib_mt9srn> :|
#2105 [13:32] <mib_mt9srn> I seem to be getting it and it looks a lot like a scam
#2106 [13:32] <mib_mt9srn> It happens everytime I try to buy minecraft
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#2108 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> from minecraft.net?
#2109 [13:33] <genshou-sleeping> mib_mt9srn, some new cards have extra security features
#2110 [13:34] <Mushuukyou> hrm
#2111 [13:34] <mib_mt9srn> Hmm
#2112 [13:34] <genshou-sleeping> Try using the card on other sites or call the 1-800 number on the back to see if it's legit.
#2113 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> Loos like it's a trusted site
#2114 [13:35] <genshou-sleeping> I have to sign in on a Visa page every time I buy online
#2115 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Added feature of your card then
#2116 [13:35] * genshou-sleeping could have opted out of the feature but thinks it's useful
#2116 [13:35] <mib_mt9srn> Do you know if it is safe, I did some research and never got a clear answer, it says the product you buy will say they are asociated with the Visa securitry cheack
#2117 [13:35] <genshou-sleeping> btw, murnings :]
#2118 [13:35] * GreyVulpine waves
#2118 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> I'd call your card, just to be sure.
#2119 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> But it looks like it's legit
#2120 [13:35] <mib_mt9srn> Alright I'll try that thanks
#2121 [13:36] <genshou-sleeping> re: earlier conversation, the only reason to use blocks other than dirt/cobblestone is pure aesthetics
#2122 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> And TNT resistance
#2123 [13:36] * GreyVulpine coughs
#2123 [13:36] <genshou-sleeping> Yeah.
#2124 [13:36] <genshou-sleeping> If you are worried about griefing, lining your walls with obsidian is nice. :)
#2125 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> No, just creepers
#2126 [13:36] * GreyVulpine shakes fist
#2126 [13:37] <genshou-sleeping> Just surround your house with some form of trap. I have a cactus field.
#2127 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Oh, I know
#2128 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> It's just extra protection
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#2130 [13:37] <genshou-sleeping> Backing away from creepers after slashing them is generally sound advice. :)
#2131 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> I've, more than once, had a creeper drop down on me from the roof
#2132 [13:37] <genshou-sleeping> lol yeah xD
#2133 [13:38] <genshou-sleeping> They do that in my mine since it had free-floating sand
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#2135 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Sneaky bastards.
#2136 [13:38] <StrikerX199> Hey someone here to help me?
#2137 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps
#2138 [13:38] <Mushuukyou> hah
#2139 [13:38] <StrikerX199> My friends had an Gift key from Alpha how they can give it to me?
#2140 [13:39] <genshou-sleeping> Is it possible to make an infinite obsidian factory like cobblestone, or does it only form by replacing a lava source block, thus requiring Nether farming to get ridiculously large quantities?
#2141 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> StrikerX199 - It'll be in the form of XXXX-XXXX-XXXX
#2142 [13:40] <StrikerX199> And where they can see it?
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#2144 [13:40] <StrikerX199> At Profile they say is nothing
#2145 [13:41] <StrikerX199> Is the Gift key for complete game or an % cheaper?
#2146 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> If they just bought it, it could take some time for paypal to process it
#2147 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> It's for a complete game
#2148 [13:41] <StrikerX199> No they got it for bought in Alpha
#2149 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> updates, up to and including the full version
#2150 [13:41] <genshou-sleeping> Oh, nice :D
#2151 [13:41] <StrikerX199> But they say the have nothing at profile but they bought in alpha :s
#2152 [13:42] <genshou-sleeping> I bought my sister Alpha on the 19th, and she plays on Peaceful with an inventory editor but hasn't build anything epic yet ;>
#2153 [13:42] * genshou-sleeping hops in the shower
#2153 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#2154 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> StrikerX199 - basically, if they *just* bought it, wait, and it'll be emailed to them
#2155 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> Then, they'll email the code to you, where you will log into minecraft.net
#2156 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> and redeem it at http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
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#2158 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, brb in 10, foods.
#2159 [13:43] <StrikerX199> When do they get the code need i have to wait long? :s
#2160 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> No
#2161 [13:44] <StrikerX199> At which time you think? :P
#2162 [13:44] <StrikerX199> Because I want to play :D
#2163 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> That all depends on how fast paypal takes to process their order?
#2164 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Yell at paypal
#2165 [13:45] <StrikerX199> But they the Game and can play why we must wait for paypal then?
#2166 [13:45] <StrikerX199> *have
#2167 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> They bought the gift code, correct?
#2168 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> It needs to go through paypal to be processed. They're extremely slow.
#2169 [13:46] <StrikerX199> They bought in the Alpha version the Game not the Gift Code only the Game for himselfs but they got a Gift Code for being the game in alpha or not?
#2170 [13:46] * Kealper eats a cookie
#2170 [13:46] <StrikerX199> *buing
#2171 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Um, no?
#2172 [13:46] <StrikerX199> Ehm thats shitty :s
#2173 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> They don't get a gift code for free, just for being in alpha
#2174 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> They need to buy one...
#2175 [13:47] <StrikerX199> Any other code for get it cheaper for anotherone or only cheaper buying in alpha?
#2176 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> It *was* cheaper in alpha, 10 euros. It's now 15
#2177 [13:47] <StrikerX199> I thought they get extras for buying in alpha
#2178 [13:48] <Mushuukyou> ok I have a lava bucket.. how can I mix that with water to make what i want
#2179 [13:48] <Kealper> Mushuukyou: you wanted obsidian right?
#2180 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> mix.. with water?
#2181 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Just have water drop onto lava to get ob
#2182 [13:48] <Mushuukyou> I think someone said I can mix lava and water to make somethin
#2183 [13:49] <Mushuukyou> I did and the water disappeared.. unless I was supposed to do it on the non-moving lava
#2184 [13:49] <Kealper> dump the lava in a 1x1x1 hole, and then dump water on top of it
#2185 [13:49] <Kealper> it cools the lava off and makes obsidian
#2186 [13:49] <Kealper> then you grab a diamond pickaxe and start whacking at it for 15 sec
#2187 [13:49] <Mushuukyou> oh nice
#2188 [13:50] <Mushuukyou> thanks man
#2189 [13:50] <Mikau> Alright guys
#2190 [13:50] <Mushuukyou> i'm having a slight problem finding diamond near the lava
#2191 [13:50] <Mikau> Lava 4; Mikau 0
#2192 [13:50] <Kealper> lol Mikau
#2193 [13:50] <Mikau> :(
#2194 [13:50] <Mikau> Last time I went underground, first iron I found swamped me with lava.
#2195 [13:50] <Mikau> Minecraft officially hates me.
#2196 [13:51] <Kealper> so i'm learning that it's much more of a PITA than i first thought to get irssi installed on a dedi and then sshing to it
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#2198 [13:51] <mib_ebjo04> hey there
#2199 [13:51] <Mushuukyou> i dropped water on the 1x1 lava thing,a nd it looks like it's water now
#2200 [13:51] <Kealper> O.o
#2201 [13:52] <Mushuukyou> O_o
#2202 [13:52] <mib_ebjo04> short question, i've installed Java properly on my system ( at least i think so) but when i try to start the mutliplayer classic server it says something like "the command java couldn't be found or was written wrong"
#2203 [13:52] <Kealper> check out some youtube vids on "obsidian farming" for minecraft
#2204 [13:52] <mib_ebjo04> any solution anyone?
#2205 [13:52] <Mushuukyou> ok
#2206 [13:52] <Mushuukyou> mib: are you on 32bit or 64
#2207 [13:52] <Kealper> mib_ebjo04: you have to add java to your path directory
#2208 [13:52] <mib_ebjo04> Win 7 64 Bit
#2209 [13:53] <Kealper> and by directory i mean variable since i totally didn't think before typing that
#2210 [13:53] <mib_ebjo04> how do i do that?
#2211 [13:54] <Kealper> go to the search bar in your start menu
#2212 [13:54] <mib_ebjo04> y
#2213 [13:54] <Kealper> type "env" and the first thing it finds should be something like Edit enviroment variables for your account
#2214 [13:55] <mib_ebjo04> BIOEditor?
#2215 [13:55] <Kealper> O.o
#2216 [13:55] <Kealper> ok then type "Edit enviroment variables" into the search....
#2217 [13:55] <mib_ebjo04> "Orgrelog" "recentlyplayed" "BIOEditor" and "BioEngine"
#2218 [13:56] <mib_ebjo04> hm im on a german system maybe thats the problem?
#2219 [13:56] <Kealper> oh...
#2220 [13:57] <Kealper> type the german version of enviroment then..maybe that will come up with something lol
#2221 [13:58] <mib_ebjo04> hehe not really, the word to word translation does not really have the same meaning ;)
#2222 [13:59] <Kealper> well....crap...uhh...click on Control Panel in the start menu
#2223 [13:59] <Kealper> go to System
#2224 [14:00] <mib_ebjo04> ah i've found it
#2225 [14:00] <Kealper> in the left side pane of that window, there is something called Advanced system settings
#2226 [14:00] <mib_ebjo04> not what do i change
#2227 [14:00] <Kealper> oh
#2228 [14:00] <Kealper> alright
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#2230 [14:00] <mib_ebjo04> *now
#2231 [14:00] <Kealper> see one called path in the top box?
#2232 [14:00] <Jajohnny> When ever I load up minecraft its using a shit ton of CPU Usage does anyone know why>?
#2233 [14:00] <mib_ebjo04> y
#2234 [14:00] <Kealper> Jajohnny: it's a 3d game, they tend to use a lot of cpu
#2235 [14:01] <Kealper> now, double click that to edit it, then go to the end and put this: ;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin
#2236 [14:01] <Jajohnny> Kealper: I have a 2.4Quad core... Any other game des NOT use this much CPU usage. And I'm talking about shit like Crysys.
#2237 [14:01] <Kealper> press ok on both windows
#2238 [14:01] <genshou-sleeping> time for work, bye all :]
#2239 [14:01] <mib_ebjo04> alright, going to try now
#2240 [14:01] <Mushuukyou> I need some 3D glasses
#2241 [14:01] <Mushuukyou> wonder if I can pick some up at target
#2242 [14:02] <Mikau> Did mib get his problem fixed?
#2243 [14:02] * genshou-sleeping leaves MC running to grow the Deku Tree :D
#2243 [14:02] <Kealper> Jajohnny: most games will stop rendering when they don't have focus, minecraft does not.
#2244 [14:02] <Kealper> minecraft is also made using Java, not C/C++/ASM
#2245 [14:02] <kenai> Hello, im new to minecraft. How does the launcher work? I bought it through paypal a few days ago and the minecraft launcher says "cant connect to minecraft.net".
#2246 [14:02] <mib_ebjo04> ok now its working
#2247 [14:02] <mib_ebjo04> thanks a lot for the help Kealper
#2248 [14:02] <genshou-afk> Jajohnny, have you ever played Gothic 3? It has similar performance requirements, for the same reason.
#2249 [14:02] <Mikau> Make sure you're using the correct username/password
#2250 [14:02] <Mushuukyou> kenai: That's the entire error message?
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#2252 [14:03] <Kealper> kenai: and you can access http://minecraft.net ?
#2253 [14:03] <genshou-afk> It renders EVERYTHING within a certain distance, including all those cave complexes beneath the ground that you can't even see until you walk a quarter-mile ;)
#2254 [14:03] <Jajohnny> I used to be able to host a server and it wouldn't use up 98% of my system resources. But for some reason, now it does.
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#2256 [14:03] <genshou-afk> anyway, off for work o/
#2257 [14:03] <Kealper> OH.....server...not game...
#2258 [14:03] <Kealper> yea the server is just super shitty like that
#2259 [14:03] <kenai> That is the entire message on the launcher
#2260 [14:03] <kenai> Oh
#2261 [14:03] <kenai> lol
#2262 [14:04] <Mushuukyou> <-- i7 920 quad core, 6gig DDR3, SLI gts450, 24" widescreen. No complains yet.
#2263 [14:04] <Kealper> not you kenai, that was to Jajohnny
#2264 [14:04] <Mushuukyou> *complaints
#2265 [14:04] <Kealper> kenai: so you can get on the minecraft website just fine?
#2266 [14:04] <kenai> Yea
#2267 [14:04] <xales> firewall
#2268 [14:04] <Kealper> what browser do you use?
#2269 [14:04] <Mushuukyou> yea I was just thinkin' that
#2270 [14:04] <Mushuukyou> you should use Firefox
#2271 [14:04] <kenai> firefox
#2272 [14:04] <Kealper> try getting on it with IE
#2273 [14:04] <Mushuukyou> ewww
#2274 [14:04] <Mushuukyou> how dare you recommend that trash. :P
#2275 [14:04] <Kealper> humor me for a second, it's a test of something
#2276 [14:05] <kenai> its the launcher you can download
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#2278 [14:05] <kenai> i can play in browser
#2279 [14:05] <kenai> lol
#2280 [14:05] <mib_geguue> umm
#2281 [14:05] <Kealper> yes, but just see if you can browse to anything using IE for a sec, if you can't, then i know the problem
#2282 [14:05] <Jajohnny> See when I join the server. My CPU Usage jumps up to 72%...
#2283 [14:05] <mib_geguue> i installed textures now my minecraft wont load or like i log into client then it stands black...
#2284 [14:05] <Jajohnny> Idle its fine.
#2285 [14:06] <xales> kealper
#2286 [14:06] <xales> its probably a firewall
#2287 [14:06] <xales> mib_geguue: your using an old texure pack most likely then
#2288 [14:06] <xales> that isn't updated for the latest version
#2289 [14:06] <kenai> IE works
#2290 [14:06] <Kealper> then yea probably a firewall
#2291 [14:07] <Kealper> you can close out of that dirty filth now
#2292 [14:07] <Kealper> (IE)
#2293 [14:07] <kenai> lol
#2294 [14:07] <mib_geguue> Thanks xales how do i change it back?..
#2295 [14:07] <xales> umm
#2296 [14:07] <xales> just reinstall
#2297 [14:07] <mib_geguue> ok
#2298 [14:07] <xales> http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#2299 [14:07] <mib_geguue> thank you.
#2300 [14:07] <xales> gotat follow that guide for reinstall
#2301 [14:08] <Kealper> so i can just do yum install identd and it'll work out of the box?
#2302 [14:09] <xales> should
#2303 [14:09] <xales> is the server in a datacenter?
#2304 [14:09] <xales> or at home
#2305 [14:09] <Kealper> datacenter
#2306 [14:09] <xales> then it should work fine
#2307 [14:09] <mib_geguue> err
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#2309 [14:09] <xales> ?
#2310 [14:10] <Kealper> i swear the more i use centos the more i hate it
#2311 [14:10] <mib_geguue> thank you xales. but do u know a website where they got uppdated skins? for beta version? i've heard something about degrading but i wont
#2312 [14:10] <xales> mib_geguue: just look on the forums, thats where everything is
#2313 [14:10] <Midnight105> Ive got some problems with minecraft running slow on my computer and I knowmit isnt my computer can anyone helpl me fix this
#2314 [14:10] <xales> if it says it works with beta, then it works
#2315 [14:10] <xales> otherwise, dont use it
#2316 [14:10] <mib_geguue> Okay thank you alot.
#2317 [14:10] <xales> Midnight105: how are you sure its not your computer
#2318 [14:10] <xales> that is the only thing it could be
#2319 [14:11] <xales> unless you are playing multiplayer
#2320 [14:11] <Midnight105> because it can run spore and starcraft fine
#2321 [14:11] <xales> what does that have to do with anything?
#2322 [14:11] <Kealper> is it a laptop?
#2323 [14:11] <xales> neither game are exactly graphic intensive
#2324 [14:11] <Midnight105> but as soon minecraft is really laggy and unplayable
#2325 [14:11] <Midnight105> yea its a laptop
#2326 [14:11] <Kealper> model?
#2327 [14:11] <Midnight105> lemme check
#2328 [14:12] <Kealper> because most laptops and minecraft just do not play nice together
#2329 [14:12] <Kealper> anwyays, xales ...No package identd available.
#2330 [14:12] <Midnight105> oh mkay
#2331 [14:12] <Mushuukyou> laptops are of the devil
#2332 [14:12] <xales> Kealper: it may be called something else. yum list identd
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#2334 [14:13] <Kealper> nothing even matched identd
#2335 [14:13] <Midnight105> idk the model but I knwo its got like 250 gb of harddrive space and 4gb of ram and idk about the video card
#2336 [14:13] <xales> ._.
#2337 [14:13] <mib_3k8org> Hello! ;D anyone know when the multiplayer server thing is going to be updated from alpga to beta?
#2338 [14:13] <xales> the video card is what counts
#2339 [14:13] <xales> it is updated
#2340 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_3k8org - Already is
#2341 [14:13] <xales> !server
#2342 [14:13] <Midnight105> al right ill check it
#2343 [14:13] <Midnight105> thanks for your help
#2344 [14:14] <mib_3k8org> but it says alpha on the homepage :/
#2345 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Text hasn't been updated
#2346 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Game has
#2347 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Would you rather the other way around?
#2348 [14:14] <mib_3k8org> haha
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#2350 [14:15] <mib_3k8org> well thank you ;p its like the third time you help me <3 (i got new names everytime so you wont remember me! but i remember you and your my minecraft hero!!!)
#2351 [14:15] * GreyVulpine hides behind Kealper.
#2351 [14:16] * Kealper hides behind xales
#2351 [14:16] <xales> sigh
#2352 [14:16] <Kealper> lol
#2353 [14:16] * xales turns invisible
#2353 [14:17] <Kealper> crap!
#2354 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, super meat boy on steam for 3.75
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#2356 [14:19] <Kealper> does this network need identd?
#2357 [14:19] <xales> doesnt need it
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#2359 [14:19] <xales> but if you DO have it
#2360 [14:20] <xales> you can do things that are nicer
#2361 [14:20] <xales> like guarantee that you are who you are
#2362 [14:20] <xales> and not being spoofed
#2363 [14:20] <Kealper> sigh
#2364 [14:20] <Kealper> because doing a list for identd doesnt even return anything
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#2366 [14:21] <danny> Hey, anybody know why the minecraft launcher I just got from the website not work? It's the mac version.
#2367 [14:21] <danny> It doesn't display anything it just doesn't run
#2368 [14:21] <xales> Kealper: yum install authd
#2369 [14:22] <Kealper> oh...danke
#2370 [14:22] <xales> danny: what version of OSX are you using
#2371 [14:22] <danny> Latest
#2372 [14:22] <Kealper> xales i declare you #MineCraftHelp's linux guru :P
#2373 [14:22] <xales> -.-
#2374 [14:22] <xales> danny: um
#2375 [14:22] <xales> where did you download it from
#2376 [14:22] <xales> !client
#2377 [14:22] <xales> download that
#2378 [14:22] <xales> err wait no
#2379 [14:22] <xales> don't
#2380 [14:22] <danny> Haha kk :)
#2381 [14:23] <xales> kealper
#2382 [14:23] <xales> update the osx link
#2383 [14:23] <xales> http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip?v=1293391391799
#2384 [14:23] <xales> that
#2385 [14:23] <Kealper> .zip.....
#2386 [14:23] <Kealper> 5 sec
#2387 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> 3
#2388 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> 2
#2389 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> 1
#2390 [14:23] <xales> ?
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#2392 [14:23] <xales> lol
#2393 [14:23] <Kealper> more than 5 sec....i didn't have that folder open lol
#2394 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Been WAY more than 5 seconds..
#2395 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> FAIL
#2396 [14:24] <danny> I downloaded that, but when I double click it to run, nothign happens.
#2397 [14:24] <xales> danny: thats not what you have to run
#2398 [14:24] <xales> when you double click that
#2399 [14:24] <xales> it extracts the .app
#2400 [14:24] <xales> you need to run that
#2401 [14:24] <danny> Yeah I've done that :(
#2402 [14:24] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2403 [14:24] <Kealper> fixed
#2404 [14:24] <xales> !client
#2405 [14:25] <xales> nope
#2406 [14:25] <xales> lulz
#2407 [14:25] <xales> danny: what happens when you open the .app
#2408 [14:25] <Kealper> you can't spam it right after it's reloaded :S
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#2410 [14:25] <xales> does it appear on the dock?
#2411 [14:25] <Kealper> !client
#2412 [14:25] <danny> It doesn't appear in the dock, it makes the dock twitch a little but ultimatly it does nothing
#2413 [14:26] <xales> can you play it in the browser?
#2414 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Can you run it in the terminal?
#2415 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> See what, if any, messages pop up?
#2416 [14:27] <xales> GreyVulpine: easier to do it in browser, I think it would spawn a java console process to show errors if there were any
#2417 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Oh right
#2418 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> I've had crap luck with getting people's java consoles to pop up in macosx
#2419 [14:28] <danny> Works online :)
#2420 [14:28] <xales> could be an option
#2421 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> O.o
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#2423 [14:30] <Kealper> to stop access to irssi from everyone but me, what dir do i chown?
#2424 [14:30] <xales> not a directory
#2425 [14:30] <xales> do this
#2426 [14:31] <xales> chown kealper:kealper /usr/bin/irssi
#2427 [14:31] <xales> then
#2428 [14:31] <xales> chmod 700 kealper:kealper /usr/bin/irssi
#2429 [14:31] <xales> err
#2430 [14:31] <xales> without the kealper:kealper part
#2431 [14:31] <xales> lulz
#2432 [14:31] <xales> in the second one
#2433 [14:31] <xales> chmod 700 /usr/bin/irssi
#2434 [14:32] <Kealper> chown: cannot access `/usr/bin/irssi': No such file or directory
#2435 [14:32] <xales> erm
#2436 [14:32] <xales> "whereis irssi"
#2437 [14:32] <xales> run that
#2438 [14:33] <Kealper> oh
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#2440 [14:34] <bildramer> lolfinally
#2441 [14:34] <kirbycool> can someone please help me and my friend connect. I forwarded my ports and other people can connect but not him...
#2442 [14:34] <Kealper> O.o
#2443 [14:34] <xales> kirbycool: then he is using the wrong ip address
#2444 [14:35] <kirbycool> haha your here too. but he is using the one the othere two used
#2445 [14:35] <kirbycool> its my external address
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#2449 [14:36] <kirbycool> ....
#2450 [14:37] <xales> are the other 2 on the same network as you
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#2452 [14:37] <kirbycool> nope, different houses. The one im trying to connect to now is actually next door. 1 was another friend and the other was someone here
#2453 [14:39] <xales> and you are hosting the server?
#2454 [14:39] <xales> and he is trying to connect to you, correct?
#2455 [14:39] <kirbycool> yes sir xales sir
#2456 [14:39] <xales> what is your external ip?
#2457 [14:39] <kirbycool> 68.114.126.30
#2458 [14:40] <xales> !check 68.114.126.30
#2459 [14:40] <xales> looks like port isnt forwarded correctly or the server isn't running then
#2460 [14:41] <kirbycool> im not running the server now
#2461 [14:41] <xales> turn it on then
#2462 [14:41] <Oggrish> do you have extern-anal?
#2463 [14:41] <Oggrish> haha, did you see what i did there? :)
#2464 [14:41] <xales> ._.
#2465 [14:41] <kirbycool> ok its on now
#2466 [14:42] <xales> !check 68.114.126.30
#2467 [14:42] <xales> the problem is on your friends side then
#2468 [14:42] <kirbycool> thank you Aubot!
#2469 [14:42] <xales> its either his firewall
#2470 [14:42] <xales> or his connection
#2471 [14:42] <xales> or something else weird
#2472 [14:42] <xales> can he connect to other servers?
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#2474 [14:43] <kirbycool> on minecraft classic he can. he just got this one
#2475 [14:43] <aetherian> eurgh
#2476 [14:43] <i81u812> can I ask if I can ask a question or is that quoting the first line...
#2477 [14:43] <aetherian> what the helck is with my laptops and "plugged in not charging"
#2478 [14:43] <aetherian> every single one!
#2479 [14:43] * aetherian stabs someone repeatedly with a trident
#2479 [14:44] <xales> lol aetherian
#2480 [14:44] <xales> i81u812: you can ask questions
#2481 [14:44] <xales> however, nothing to do with minecraft
#2482 [14:44] <xales> seeing as this is #minecrafthelp
#2483 [14:44] <i81u812> anyways so when playing survival mode can you set a spawn point and how
#2484 [14:44] <xales> kirbycool: is it a classic server or a beta server
#2485 [14:44] <xales> i81u812: nope, you get your spawn point when world generates
#2486 [14:45] <i81u812> damnit
#2487 [14:45] <xales> you can use a map editor to change it, some of em let you do that
#2488 [14:45] <i81u812> I dont want to cheat...
#2489 [14:45] <xales> then don't
#2490 [14:45] <i81u812> ok what all modes are there without using a 3rd party mod?
#2491 [14:46] <xales> survival
#2492 [14:46] <xales> and...survival
#2493 [14:46] <xales> thats it
#2494 [14:46] <xales> classic (free build) is on the website, and its free
#2495 [14:46] <i81u812> whatabout multi....
#2496 [14:46] <xales> but its outdated and not supported
#2497 [14:46] <xales> mutliplayer is literally just survival
#2498 [14:46] <xales> with other people
#2499 [14:46] <i81u812> and you cant play classic even with a download?
#2500 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Nope, browser only
#2501 [14:47] <i81u812> well thats a hell of an oversight
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#2503 [14:48] <xales> why?
#2504 [14:48] <kirbycool> mine is beta, its his first time connecting to one of those. But he has connect to minecraft classic before
#2505 [14:48] <i81u812> is there anything that you can do in build mode/classic that you cannot do in survival?
#2506 [14:48] <xales> kirbycool: is he connecting to it using beta?
#2507 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> YEs i81u812
#2508 [14:48] <xales> no
#2509 [14:48] <xales> GreyVulpine: ?
#2510 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. never ind
#2511 [14:49] <xales> lol
#2512 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Thought you meant the other way around
#2513 [14:49] <kirbycool> yes, he is in his browser using beta, which he just bought
#2514 [14:49] <i81u812> no id like to know honestly
#2515 [14:49] <xales> no, classic is survival a long time ago
#2516 [14:49] <i81u812> oh
#2517 [14:49] <xales> its just a very, very old version basically
#2518 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Only thing different is the colored cloth
#2519 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Can't do that in survival right now
#2520 [14:49] <xales> GreyVulpine: any idea about kirbycool?
#2521 [14:49] <xales> also kirby, make sure he isn't running a firewall
#2522 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, playing l4d2 right now
#2523 [14:49] <xales> ._.
#2524 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> haven't been keeping up
#2525 [14:49] <xales> lol
#2526 [14:50] <i81u812> yeah that game can be difficult
#2527 [14:50] <i81u812> damn witches
#2528 [14:50] <xales> *bitches
#2529 [14:50] <kirbycool> My friend can't connect to my server even though it is properly set up and other can
#2530 [14:51] <xales> kirbycool: did you see what i said twice now
#2531 [14:51] <xales> about firewall
#2532 [14:51] <xales> have him turn it off
#2533 [14:51] <kirbycool> yeah but grey said he wasnt keeping up.
#2534 [14:51] <xales> I know
#2535 [14:51] <i81u812> alright can you get a command line in survival mode on the download version without a 3rd party app and how id like to see all the different commands if any exist if thats possible at all...
#2536 [14:51] <xales> you still havent done what I told you to do twice now
#2537 [14:51] <kirbycool> My friends dumb with computers so hes not sure, im trying to help him
#2538 [14:51] <xales> i81u812: command line only works in multiplayer
#2539 [14:51] <kirbycool> about the fireqall
#2540 [14:51] <i81u812> damn
#2541 [14:51] <xales> kirbycool: what does he see when he tries to log in
#2542 [14:52] <i81u812> im trying to ask all my questions now so I wont wonder later
#2543 [14:52] <kirbycool> log in to what? or do you mean connect to me? it says connection refused
#2544 [14:52] <xales> kirbycool: make sure he is using the right IP and port
#2545 [14:53] <kirbycool> i made sure, its my ip address then :25565 however the other 2 could connect without the port extension
#2546 [14:54] <xales> check that its the right ip address
#2547 [14:54] <xales> they do change
#2548 [14:54] <kirbycool> but we tried both ways. If he uses the port it says connection timed out, if not it says connection refused
#2549 [14:54] <Oggrish> i've decided to share my script
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#2551 [14:54] <Oggrish> alias f1 msg $active HELLO WORLD
#2552 [14:55] <mikeholla> Hello, I was wondering why my minecraft keeps crashing.
#2553 [14:55] <Oggrish> HELLO WORLD
#2554 [14:55] <HonestFlames> Oggrish, stop.
#2555 [14:55] <mikeholla> Anyone online that can help?
#2556 [14:55] <i81u812> ok will classic mode ever be updated and/or be avail. for download
#2557 [14:55] <xales> yeah
#2558 [14:55] <xales> i81u812: no
#2559 [14:56] <xales> mikeholla: whats the crash error
#2560 [14:56] <kirbycool> oh he fixed it! it was the firewall. thanks man
#2561 [14:56] <xales> paste it
#2562 [14:56] <xales> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com
#2563 [14:56] <xales> kirbycool: no problem
#2564 [14:56] <i81u812> lol
#2565 [14:56] <mikeholla> it doesnt give me a crash error
#2566 [14:56] <mikeholla> it just doesnt respond anymore
#2567 [14:56] <xales> what kind of computer is it
#2568 [14:56] <xales> laptop, desktop
#2569 [14:56] <mikeholla> desktop
#2570 [14:56] <xales> and what are the specs on it
#2571 [14:56] <mikeholla> 6 GB ram, 2.66 Ghz i7 processor
#2572 [14:57] <mikeholla> GTX 275 vid card
#2573 [14:57] <xales> windows 7?
#2574 [14:57] <mikeholla> indeed.
#2575 [14:57] <mikeholla> 64 bit.
#2576 [14:57] <xales> latest java?
#2577 [14:57] <mikeholla> SE 6 right?
#2578 [14:57] <xales> I don't know
#2579 [14:57] <mib_3k8org> everytime i run the minecraft multiplayer server i get this message "[WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?"
#2580 [14:57] <xales> cmd.exe -> java -version
#2581 [14:57] <mib_3k8org> whats up with that? ;P
#2582 [14:57] <xales> mib_3k8org: tahts normal
#2583 [14:57] <xales> ignroe it
#2584 [14:57] <mib_3k8org> ok :p
#2585 [14:57] <mib_3k8org> thanks
#2586 [14:57] <xales> can't type today >.?
#2587 [14:57] <xales> sure
#2588 [14:57] <mikeholla> it saids build 1.6.0_23-b05
#2589 [14:57] <i81u812> xales do they pay you enough to sit here for hours?
#2590 [14:58] <mikeholla> is that normal?
#2591 [14:58] <xales> I don't get paid
#2592 [14:58] <i81u812> so no...
#2593 [14:58] <xales> everyone here is a community volunteer
#2594 [14:58] <xales> ._.
#2595 [14:58] <xales> yeah, no
#2596 [14:58] <xales> lol
#2597 [14:58] <xales> mikeholla: err think so
#2598 [14:58] <xales> yeah
#2599 [14:58] <mikeholla> can you double check?
#2600 [14:58] <xales> thats normal
#2601 [14:58] <mikeholla> ok this is what happens
#2602 [14:58] <mikeholla> i connect to my VPS server
#2603 [14:58] <mikeholla> and then all of a sudden everything just stops responding
#2604 [14:58] <mikeholla> i can walk
#2605 [14:59] <mikeholla> but cant destroy blocks/pick them up
#2606 [14:59] <mikeholla> animals/mobs dont move
#2607 [14:59] <xales> does it stop responding when you play single player?
#2608 [14:59] <mikeholla> no.
#2609 [14:59] <xales> ah
#2610 [14:59] <xales> the issue would be with the vps then
#2611 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> mikeholla - Is this everywhere?
#2612 [14:59] <mikeholla> everyone else can connect though
#2613 [14:59] <xales> GreyVulpine: mobs don't move
#2614 [14:59] <xales> oh
#2615 [14:59] <mikeholla> no just my server
#2616 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> I know, I've seen that too
#2617 [14:59] <xales> mikeholla: do you have a firewall running
#2618 [15:00] <mib_3k8org> whats the port i need to open to allow people to connect to my sever? :p
#2619 [15:00] <mikeholla> let me disable them
#2620 [15:00] <mikeholla> ok firewalls off lemme test
#2621 [15:00] <xales> mib_3k8org: 25565
#2622 [15:00] <mikeholla> also dont know if this helps but i can connect on my laptop
#2623 [15:01] <xales> sounds like a firewall then
#2624 [15:01] <mikeholla> disabled firewalls still does the same thing
#2625 [15:01] <mikeholla> oh wait
#2626 [15:01] <mikeholla> here
#2627 [15:01] <mikeholla> the error in the console says java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
#2628 [15:01] <mikeholla> then a couple lines
#2629 [15:01] <mikeholla> and then
#2630 [15:01] <mikeholla> java.net.SocketException: Broken pipe
#2631 [15:02] <xales> thats a firewall most likely
#2632 [15:02] <mikeholla> does that help?
#2633 [15:02] <mikeholla> any way i can search for this firewall?
#2634 [15:02] <xales> well, it proves that the problem is what i thought it was
#2635 [15:02] <mikeholla> i have AVG and windows firewall off
#2636 [15:02] <xales> mikeholla: look in the system tray
#2637 [15:02] <xales> and expand it to include all icons
#2638 [15:02] <mikeholla> ok i did
#2639 [15:03] <xales> look at each of them
#2640 [15:03] <mikeholla> all it shows is AVG and their firewall is disabled
#2641 [15:03] <xales> make sure none of em are a firewall or anything like that
#2642 [15:03] <xales> computers often come with a garbage firewall if you bought it from a store/online
#2643 [15:03] <mikeholla> yeah
#2644 [15:03] <mikeholla> no i built it
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#2646 [15:03] <xales> ok
#2647 [15:03] <xales> can you connect to other servers
#2648 [15:03] <mikeholla> yes
#2649 [15:04] <HonestFlames> Windows firewall is al lanyone should need. Oh, and it should *never* be turned off.
#2650 [15:04] <mikeholla> its off right now
#2651 [15:04] <xales> people shouldnt use a firewall
#2652 [15:04] <xales> usually
#2653 [15:04] <HonestFlames> It shouldn't be off.
#2654 [15:04] <xales> routers act as a hardware firewall
#2655 [15:04] <xales> and windows firewall doesn't do shit btw
#2656 [15:04] <HonestFlames> xales, come on, Windows users especially need a firewall
#2657 [15:05] <mikeholla> stop flaming eachother and help people xD
#2658 [15:05] <HonestFlames> xales, Win 7's firewall is better than most of the commercially available ones.
#2659 [15:05] <xales> no, its not
#2660 [15:05] <xales> sorry
#2661 [15:05] <xales> :\
#2662 [15:05] <xales> and a router acts as a hardware firewall
#2663 [15:05] <HonestFlames> OK, it's not (but it is).
#2664 [15:05] <mikeholla> its ok this is just frustrating
#2665 [15:05] <mikeholla> because it was working yesterday fine
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#2667 [15:06] <mikeholla> any more ideas?
#2668 [15:07] <Kealper`> hmm...
#2669 [15:07] <mikeholla> anyone?
#2670 [15:07] <sinedeviance> hi all
#2671 [15:08] <mikeholla> Kealper maybe?
#2672 [15:08] <Kealper`> rawr?
#2673 [15:08] * Kealper` reads what the problem is
#2673 [15:09] <xales> did
#2674 [15:09] <xales> oops
#2675 [15:09] <xales> wrong channel lul
#2676 [15:09] <mikeholla> ok well
#2677 [15:09] <Kealper`> unstable internet or firewall is what i think
#2678 [15:09] <sinedeviance> anybody have a good idea for a texture pack? i'm dying to make one but cant think of anything good to use as a reference
#2679 [15:09] <mikeholla> as i said earlier this isnt working right
#2680 [15:09] <mikeholla> and it was working yesterday.
#2681 [15:09] <mikeholla> all firewalls are off
#2682 [15:09] <mikeholla> comcast was contacted and the internet is fine
#2683 [15:09] <xales> restart computer?
#2684 [15:09] <mikeholla> java is up to date
#2685 [15:10] <mikeholla> could that really be it?
#2686 [15:10] <mikeholla> the computer was off last night
#2687 [15:10] <xales> restart it
#2688 [15:10] <mikeholla> when it started up
#2689 [15:10] <mikeholla> uh
#2690 [15:10] <mikeholla> ok
#2691 [15:10] <mikeholla> brb
#2692 [15:10] <xales> and restart the server
#2693 [15:10] <xales> once you try that
#2694 [15:10] <mikeholla> servers fine
#2695 [15:10] <mikeholla> people are connected right now
#2696 [15:10] <xales> it could be being stupid
#2697 [15:10] <xales> with your ip
#2698 [15:10] <mikeholla> true
#2699 [15:10] <mikeholla> any way to fix that?
#2700 [15:11] <xales> restarting it
#2701 [15:11] <xales> deleting (yourname).dat
#2702 [15:11] <mikeholla> wheres myname.dat located
#2703 [15:11] <xales> i dunno
#2704 [15:11] <xales> Kealper`:
#2705 [15:11] <xales> where is myname.dat
#2706 [15:11] <Kealper`> inside world\players
#2707 [15:11] <xales> ty
#2708 [15:12] <mikeholla> so your saying i go into the server and delete my name?
#2709 [15:12] <xales> yes
#2710 [15:12] <mikeholla> with winSCP?
#2711 [15:12] <mikeholla> ok
#2712 [15:12] <mikeholla> well
#2713 [15:12] <mikeholla> ill do all that
#2714 [15:12] <mikeholla> and then restart comp
#2715 [15:12] <mikeholla> and try
#2716 [15:12] <xales> Kealper`: get irssi to work?
#2717 [15:12] <Kealper`> yea i got it all configured the way i want it, but it's not connecting to the server :S
#2718 [15:12] <xales> use port 6666
#2719 [15:13] <xales> or 5555
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#2721 [15:13] <mikeholla> ok i deleted my .dat
#2722 [15:13] <mikeholla> now what
#2723 [15:13] <xales> reconnect
#2724 [15:13] <mikeholla> k
#2725 [15:13] <Kealper`> ya know what...i wonder if my bro has a firewall on his server that is set to holyshitihateviruses mode
#2726 [15:13] <i81u812> how long does night/day last for?
#2727 [15:14] <Kealper`> 10 minutes each i think
#2728 [15:14] <mib_3k8org> If i start a server on my comp, play on it with some friends (build alot) then close down the server program, will the same map still be available when i restart the server the next time?
#2729 [15:14] <i81u812> day always seems shorter
#2730 [15:14] <xales> yes
#2731 [15:14] <xales> mib_3k8org: yes
#2732 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> 10 and 7
#2733 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> 10 minute days, 7 nights, I believe
#2734 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Gah, I will never get tired of the bridge level on L4D2
#2735 [15:16] <xales> lol
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#2737 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Actually got my military sniper rifle with laser sights, running down that bridge, line of zombies.
#2738 [15:17] <mikelollu> ok im back
#2739 [15:17] <mikelollu> sorry about that
#2740 [15:17] <mikelollu> my internet disconnected after trying to connect
#2741 [15:17] <mib_3k8org> how do i chat in multi?!
#2742 [15:17] <mib_3k8org> :P
#2743 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Press T
#2744 [15:17] <mib_3k8org> is it possible? damn i hate asking so many questions but im such a noob^^
#2745 [15:17] <mib_3k8org> thanks!
#2746 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Would be kinda pointless without chat in multiplayer
#2747 [15:19] <mikelollu> xales?
#2748 [15:19] <mikelollu> you there?
#2749 [15:19] <xales> yes
#2750 [15:19] <mikelollu> my internet disconnected
#2751 [15:19] <mikelollu> sorry
#2752 [15:19] <mikelollu> anyway
#2753 [15:20] <mikelollu> its stuck on downloading terrain
#2754 [15:20] <mikelollu> oh ok
#2755 [15:20] <mikelollu> it errored
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#2757 [15:20] <mikelollu> do you want be to copy it to pastebin?
#2758 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#2759 [15:21] <mikelollu> http://pastebin.com/NJjiLhzt
#2760 [15:21] <mikelollu> g0
#2761 [15:21] <xales> GreyVulpine: bad map data got sent
#2762 [15:22] <mikelollu> xales
#2763 [15:22] <xales> ?
#2764 [15:22] <mikelollu> can you take a look at that pastebin?
#2765 [15:23] <xales> I did
#2766 [15:23] <xales> the server is sending bad map data
#2767 [15:23] <mikelollu> what does it tell you
#2768 [15:23] <xales> also, try reinstalling
#2769 [15:23] <xales> http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#2770 [15:23] <xales> guide is there
#2771 [15:23] <mikelollu> ive re-installed
#2772 [15:23] <mikelollu> already
#2773 [15:23] <xales> GreyVulpine: any ideas?
#2774 [15:24] <xales> try connecting to another server
#2775 [15:24] <xales> see if you ahve the same problem
#2776 [15:24] <Kealper`> > mc.kealper.com
#2777 [15:24] <xales> !paid burhmi
#2778 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Usually a nullpointerexception, I've found, has to do with bad files in the client.
#2779 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> from a bad download, or a bad mod
#2780 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Usually a redownload fixes it
#2781 [15:25] <xales> GreyVulpine: indeed, its a in a chunk, which the server sends
#2782 [15:25] <mikelollu> i dont have any mods
#2783 [15:25] <Kealper> i've gotten the nullpointerexception from bad chunks in maps
#2784 [15:25] <xales> so its probably that the data is being corrupted somewhere along the line
#2785 [15:25] * GreyVulpine nods
#2785 [15:25] <xales> oh
#2786 [15:25] <mikelollu> how do i fix that
#2787 [15:25] <xales> mikelollu: add(or change) to server.properties
#2788 [15:25] <xales> the line
#2789 [15:25] <xales> world=newworld
#2790 [15:25] <xales> and restart the server
#2791 [15:26] <mikelollu> k
#2792 [15:26] <xales> !paid buhrmi
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#2795 [15:27] <UncleBill> hey guiz
#2796 [15:27] <UncleBill> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=117322
#2797 [15:27] <UncleBill> anyone else^
#2798 [15:27] <mikelollu> ok xales
#2799 [15:27] <mikelollu> i did all that
#2800 [15:27] <mikelollu> i can connect now
#2801 [15:27] <mikelollu> but i just keep falling into blackness
#2802 [15:27] <mikelollu> any ideas?
#2803 [15:27] <xales> UncleBill: thats a corrupt chunk
#2804 [15:28] <mikelollu> and i dont see anything anywhere
#2805 [15:28] <xales> mikelollu: try reinstalling again now
#2806 [15:28] <mikelollu> i just reinstalled.
#2807 [15:28] <xales> can you try to connect to another server
#2808 [15:28] <mikelollu> ok re-installing
#2809 [15:29] <UncleBill> i didnt know you were here too ;[
#2810 [15:29] <xales> the only thing you can do about corrupt chunk
#2811 [15:29] <xales> is make a new world
#2812 [15:29] <UncleBill> well i backed up the world prior to that
#2813 [15:29] <UncleBill> i want to prevent them in the future
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#2815 [15:30] <xales> its probably just a stupid thing related to file handles
#2816 [15:30] <xales> windows server?
#2817 [15:30] <UncleBill> yeah
#2818 [15:31] <xales> yeah
#2819 [15:31] <xales> windows has stupid problems like that
#2820 [15:31] <mib_1rd9ac> hi, is there any1 i can ask for help? im putting in my credit card information and it says
#2821 [15:31] <mib_1rd9ac> Transaction error An error occured and your purchase was not completed Message from server: verification denied If you need to contact the shop please use the following reference ID: 106769441
#2822 [15:31] <xales> the card details are incorrect then
#2823 [15:31] <mib_1rd9ac> but i use it all the time, i just bought items off steam
#2824 [15:31] <UncleBill> so if i set up a vmware server and say.. run another os within windows, am i still at a risk of having it jack up
#2825 [15:32] <mikelollu> xales
#2826 [15:32] <xales> mikelollu: ?
#2827 [15:32] <mikelollu> ok
#2828 [15:32] <mikelollu> so
#2829 [15:32] <xales> mib_1rd9ac: you are entering it incorrectly then
#2830 [15:32] <mikelollu> i can connect now
#2831 [15:32] <mikelollu> and the world started
#2832 [15:32] <xales> or your card does not work with internationally
#2833 [15:32] <mikelollu> but its lagging severely behind
#2834 [15:32] <mikelollu> but the server isnt lagging
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#2836 [15:32] <xales> mikelollu: hold f3 and what does it say for fps?
#2837 [15:33] <xales> kealper
#2838 [15:33] <xales> i missed you
#2839 [15:33] <xales> be helpful
#2840 [15:33] <mikelollu> 231
#2841 [15:33] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2841 [15:33] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper.
#2841 [15:33] <xales> then the problem is with your network connection or the server
#2842 [15:33] <mikelollu> its gotta be my network connection then
#2843 [15:34] <mikelollu> just like cause in putty i can see what people type
#2844 [15:34] <Kealper`> hmm...seems to work
#2845 [15:34] <mikelollu> but ingame it lags behind
#2846 [15:34] <mikelollu> a lot
#2847 [15:34] <xales> btw nice work getting irssi to work kealper
#2848 [15:34] <xales> mikelollu: then its your connection
#2849 [15:34] <xales> kealper
#2850 [15:34] <mikelollu> how though
#2851 [15:34] <Kealper`> connection problem was a firewall problem lol
#2852 [15:34] <mikelollu> im connected through putty
#2853 [15:34] <mikelollu> and that connection is fine
#2854 [15:34] <mib_1rd9ac> is the credit card information matter if i put them all capital letters or not?
#2855 [15:34] <xales> putty uses exactly no bandwidth
#2856 [15:34] <xales> minecraft uses a shitton
#2857 [15:35] <mikelollu> so your saying im out of bandwidth.
#2858 [15:35] <xales> mib_1rd9ac: if you are getting that and the info is correct, then your card does not support internation purchases
#2859 [15:35] <xales> call the number on the back of your card; they can help you. we cannot :/
#2860 [15:35] <xales> mikelollu: most likely
#2861 [15:35] <mikelollu> xales
#2862 [15:35] <mikelollu> shit
#2863 [15:35] <mikelollu> is there any way i can renew it?
#2864 [15:36] <xales> Kealper`: have you used irssi and know the epic win scripts? (the advanced status bar with usercount and everything)
#2865 [15:36] <xales> mikelollu: renew what?
#2866 [15:36] <xales> its not something that gets used up over time
#2867 [15:36] <xales> most likely
#2868 [15:36] <xales> its just a maximum at once limit
#2869 [15:36] <xales> close other programs you have open
#2870 [15:36] <xales> every single one except putty and minecraft
#2871 [15:36] <xales> then try
#2872 [15:36] <mikelollu> ok
#2873 [15:36] <mikelollu> and irc?
#2874 [15:36] <xales> what client?
#2875 [15:36] <xales> if mibbit, yes. if not, doesn't matter
#2876 [15:37] <Kealper> ok now....yes xales i've used irssi before but i never superpimped it
#2877 [15:37] <xales> Kealper: let me give you a tutorial
#2878 [15:37] <xales> on basic superpimping
#2879 [15:37] <xales> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
#2880 [15:37] <xales> :)
#2881 [15:37] <mikelollu> do i close IRC too??
#2882 [15:37] <xales> mikelollu: did you see what I said
#2883 [15:38] <xales> depends on what client
#2884 [15:38] <xales> if you are using mibbit then close it
#2885 [15:38] * Kealper is going to start paying attention to this again
#2885 [15:38] <mikelollu> mIRC
#2886 [15:38] <xales> otherwise it doesn't matter
#2887 [15:38] <xales> that should be fine then
#2888 [15:38] <mikelollu> k
#2889 [15:38] <mikelollu> wait
#2890 [15:38] <mikelollu> i got a timed out error
#2891 [15:38] <xales> where?
#2892 [15:38] <mikelollu> Connection Timed Out
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#2894 [15:38] <mikelollu> after being in the server for a little
#2895 [15:38] <xales> yeah
#2896 [15:38] <xales> just
#2897 [15:38] <xales> close every program
#2898 [15:38] <xales> and try again
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#2901 [15:41] <mikeholla> wow
#2902 [15:41] <mikeholla> ok so
#2903 [15:41] <mikeholla> i tried to connect
#2904 [15:41] <mikeholla> got stuck on Logging In
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#2906 [15:41] <mikeholla> and it crashed my internet
#2907 [15:41] <xales> mikelollu: it sounds like your computer then
#2908 [15:41] <xales> run virus scan
#2909 [15:41] <mikeholla> i did
#2910 [15:41] <xales> or something like that
#2911 [15:41] <mikeholla> earlier
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#2913 [15:41] <mikeholla> see
#2914 [15:41] <mikeholla> did you see that
#2915 [15:42] <mikeholla> * mikelollu (mikeholla@c-67-171-170-27.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
#2916 [15:42] <xales> yes, I did
#2917 [15:42] <xales> you dont need to paste it
#2918 [15:42] <xales> anyway
#2919 [15:42] <xales> it sounds like something is wrong with your computer
#2920 [15:42] <xales> which is not easy to diagnose over the internet
#2921 [15:42] <mikeholla> fix?
#2922 [15:42] <xales> there isn't a magic fix
#2923 [15:42] <mikeholla> shit
#2924 [15:42] <mikeholla> n0000
#2925 [15:43] <xales> call microsoft or dell or whoever
#2926 [15:43] <mikeholla> i can play singleplayer though
#2927 [15:44] <xales> so Kealper
#2928 [15:45] <xales> that theme on there is epic too
#2929 [15:45] <xales> fear2.theme
#2930 [15:45] * Kealper is still soaking up that page
#2930 [15:45] <xales> ah
#2931 [15:45] <xales> enjoy
#2932 [15:46] <xales> all of the scripts that they have on that site, splitlong, usercount and dispatch
#2933 [15:46] <xales> are useful too
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#2936 [15:47] <mib_3k8org> Is the multiplayer server maps the same as the singleplayer maps?
#2937 [15:48] <barrycarlyon> mib_3k8org:yah
#2938 [15:48] <barrycarlyon> They both generate the same way.
#2939 [15:48] <barrycarlyon> You can upload/download to make a multi a single or a single a multi.
#2940 [15:48] <Ponti> cool
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#2943 [15:51] <hJulvort> Have anyone found a solution on the problem, when users try to connect to you server and all they get is "logging in" (port is open)
#2944 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Harryhy - Does it error out with anything?
#2945 [15:53] <hJulvort> It says they have logged in and i can se them ingame but then they just disconnect
#2946 [15:56] <hJulvort> noone?
#2947 [15:56] <xales> umm
#2948 [15:56] <xales> firewall
#2949 [15:56] <xales> turn it off
#2950 [15:57] <hJulvort> hm
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#2952 [15:58] <fogWraith_> Om nom nom
#2953 [15:58] <xales> nom nom nom
#2954 [15:58] <Kealper> nom nom nom
#2955 [15:58] <fogWraith_> Found my old BeOS machine, just booted it up :P
#2956 [15:58] <xales> solution to your problem in this case
#2957 [15:58] <xales> is probably a sledge
#2958 [15:59] <Kealper> throwing it in the air and playing catch with it helps aswell
#2959 [16:00] <xales> indeed
#2960 [16:00] <xales> Kealper: lost your ops, trolololol
#2961 [16:00] <Kealper> bah
#2962 [16:00] <xales> stupid bawt
#2963 [16:01] <Kealper> danke, and that's probably the last time you'll need to do that lol
#2964 [16:01] <xales> Kealper: set reverse dns on the server to kealper.com
#2965 [16:01] <fogWraith_> Hai Grey
#2966 [16:01] <xales> then you can be kealper@kealper.com
#2967 [16:01] <xales> in your whois
#2968 [16:01] * xales goes to get food
#2968 [16:01] * Kealper has no idea how to do that
#2968 [16:02] <xales> Kealper: control panel with the company hosting the server
#2969 [16:02] <xales> its an option on the IP address
#2970 [16:02] <xales> you just put kealper.com in the box and your all set
#2971 [16:02] <UncleBill> so if i set up a vmware server and say.. run another os within windows, am i still at a risk of having corrupted chunks
#2972 [16:02] <Kealper> oh...yea i somehow doubt my bro would like me doing that lol
#2973 [16:02] <xales> UncleBill: yes
#2974 [16:02] <UncleBill> ty
#2975 [16:03] <xales> windows is still garbage, whether its virtualizing or not
#2976 [16:03] <xales> Kealper: it doesn't change anything
#2977 [16:03] <UncleBill> is this something that notch will perhaps buff out?
#2978 [16:03] <xales> its just when people do reverse lookups on your IP, it resolves to something
#2979 [16:03] <UncleBill> or can it be buffed out
#2980 [16:03] <xales> thats why you got blocked by my hosts.deny
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#2982 [16:03] <xales> the internet rules say that it should resolve to something
#2983 [16:03] <xales> UncleBill: no
#2984 [16:03] <xales> its a problem with windows
#2985 [16:03] <xales> notch can't fix it
#2986 [16:03] * Kealper checks what it resolves to right now
#2986 [16:04] <hJulvort> xales if it wasn't they firewall, what would your next suggestion be?
#2987 [16:04] <fogWraith_> Oh lawd, GCC is outdated on this machine
#2988 [16:04] <xales> Kealper: nothing
#2989 [16:04] <Kealper> alxcloud.com....eew
#2990 [16:04] <xales> thats why it was an issue
#2991 [16:04] <sluggo> If i live in the U.S. and pay with a credit card, will my account be charged the USD equivalent of 14.95 euros? or does it not work?
#2992 [16:05] <xales> hJulvort: try browsing to http://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=xales
#2993 [16:05] <Kealper> us equivilant
#2994 [16:05] <xales> sluggo: it will be charged us equiv
#2995 [16:05] <sluggo> thankyou
#2996 [16:05] <xales> card has to allow international purchases though; prepaid card don't
#2997 [16:05] <sluggo> ok
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#2999 [16:05] <xales> Kealper: help hJulvort I need to eat food >.>
#3000 [16:06] <Kealper> uhh....ok..lol
#3001 [16:07] <Kealper> quick run-down, to make sure i understand...people get stuck on "Logging in..." and then DC?
#3002 [16:07] <hJulvort> yep
#3003 [16:07] <Kealper> after that, do they get DCed for "Took too long to log in"?
#3004 [16:08] <Kealper> what browser do you use? (yes, i am going somewhere with this...)
#3005 [16:08] <hJulvort> chrome
#3006 [16:09] <Kealper> wait, i should have asked first...are you hosting off your own computer or a different one?
#3007 [16:09] <hJulvort> my own
#3008 [16:09] <Kealper> ok
#3009 [16:09] <Kealper> try going to any site using IE
#3010 [16:10] <Kealper> will it work? or does it say it can't find the server?
#3011 [16:10] <hJulvort> it works
#3012 [16:10] <Kealper> hmm...crap.
#3013 [16:10] <xales> try going to http://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=xales
#3014 [16:10] <xales> in IE
#3015 [16:11] <hJulvort> says True
#3016 [16:11] <Kealper> well..that's weird
#3017 [16:11] <hJulvort> friend suggested to add my local ip to server properties but that didn't do anything
#3018 [16:12] <Kealper> but it was empty before and still working?
#3019 [16:12] <Kealper> still failing*
#3020 [16:12] <hJulvort> yeah, when it's empty i can connect with localhost
#3021 [16:12] <hJulvort> but when i added ip i can't
#3022 [16:12] <xales> hJulvort: are you sure you disabled your firewall?
#3023 [16:12] <xales> leave the IP line totally blank
#3024 [16:13] <hJulvort> ok, ye it is disabled on my pc
#3025 [16:14] <xales> windows firewall?
#3026 [16:14] <xales> or a 3rd party one
#3027 [16:14] <xales> you can have more than 1 firewall; make sure they are all disabled
#3028 [16:14] <Mushuukyou> ok so like
#3029 [16:14] <Mushuukyou> why don't I build a lava pit all around my house
#3030 [16:14] <xales> its not worth it
#3031 [16:14] <Mushuukyou> why is that
#3032 [16:14] <xales> thinks will not hurt you through a block
#3033 [16:14] <Kealper> because you're screwed if you trip
#3034 [16:14] <Mushuukyou> :D
#3035 [16:15] <xales> if you have any wall of any kind
#3036 [16:15] <xales> thinks cant hurt you
#3037 [16:15] <xales> creepers cant explode
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#3039 [16:15] <xales> etc
#3040 [16:15] <Mushuukyou> yea well i have windows, so they shoot through them
#3041 [16:15] <xales> then use glass
#3042 [16:15] <Mushuukyou> so maybe i just need to make hte other side deeper
#3043 [16:15] <xales> also, lava would flow in your window
#3044 [16:15] <Mushuukyou> no, it would be like a moat
#3045 [16:15] <xales> that wouldnt stop skeletons
#3046 [16:15] <Mushuukyou> they would fall in
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#3048 [16:15] <Kealper> but they can shoot over it :S
#3049 [16:16] <WTFClock> hello
#3050 [16:16] <Kealper> hi
#3051 [16:16] <WTFClock> uh i have a problem whenever i try to log onto
#3052 [16:16] * CruelNoise [CruelNoise@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3053 [16:16] <WTFClock> one of these srvers
#3054 [16:16] <WTFClock> *servers
#3055 [16:16] <xales> ello cruel
#3056 [16:16] <WTFClock> it says connection lost too many logins?
#3057 [16:16] <xales> the server is full
#3058 [16:16] <xales> try another
#3059 [16:16] <WTFClock> ah ok
#3060 [16:16] <xales> CruelNoise: I was gonna ask you something but now I forgot
#3061 [16:17] <Kealper> man i am just gettng ninja'd left and right today lol
#3062 [16:17] <WTFClock> but it'll normally say connection lost server is full?
#3063 [16:17] <CruelNoise> hey
#3064 [16:17] <CruelNoise> Sup?
#3065 [16:17] <xales> umm
#3066 [16:17] <xales> i dont remember tbh
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#3068 [16:17] <xales> it was at like 4am last night I thought of it
#3069 [16:17] <xales> then I went to bed
#3070 [16:17] <xales> sooo
#3071 [16:17] <xales> yah
#3072 [16:17] <WTFClock> and theres only 7 people there
#3073 [16:17] <WTFClock> out of like 24
#3074 [16:17] <xales> try another server
#3075 [16:17] <WTFClock> k
#3076 [16:17] <i81u812> does the game pause when your on your invintory?
#3077 [16:18] <xales> no
#3078 [16:18] <i81u812> ok cool
#3079 [16:18] <hJulvort> Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset, is what you get when you try too connect
#3080 [16:18] <xales> eh cruel I have another thing to tell you though
#3081 [16:18] <CruelNoise> xales: yeah?
#3082 [16:18] <xales> hJulvort: that sounds like a firewall. what OS are you using
#3083 [16:18] <hJulvort> w7
#3084 [16:18] <xales> CruelNoise: best discussed in PM
#3085 [16:19] <CruelNoise> ooh! secrets!
#3086 [16:19] <Kealper> hJulvort: you are absolutely positive that windows firewall is disabled?
#3087 [16:20] <hJulvort> i'll restart computer quick
#3088 [16:20] <i81u812> is there a timestamp telling how long you've been in survival mode?
#3089 [16:21] <Kealper> no i81u812
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#3091 [16:21] <Kealper> i've read about plans for some basic stats, but that is probably something for much farther down the development road
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#3093 [16:24] <Ponti> how can you see a server's ip adress so you can join in your offline program and not via browser?
#3094 [16:24] <xales> what do you mean?
#3095 [16:24] <Kealper> Ponti: uhh...what?
#3096 [16:24] * hJulvort [hJulvort@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3097 [16:25] <Ponti> www.minecraft.net/server.jsp
#3098 [16:25] <Ponti> www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#3099 [16:25] <Kealper> there is no standalone client for classic O.o
#3100 [16:25] <Ponti> how do i join these servers from the standalone?
#3101 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> You can't
#3102 [16:26] <Ponti> oh
#3103 [16:26] <Kealper> those are servers for a different game type
#3104 [16:26] <Ponti> ah o
#3105 [16:26] <Ponti> ah ok
#3106 [16:26] <Ponti> then what is multiplayer in the standalone for?
#3107 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Beta/survival
#3108 [16:27] * Kealper is afk to hunt for food
#3108 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Which is a premium game mode, you need to pay to play it
#3109 [16:27] <Ponti> ok, and where do i find servers for thoseN
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#3111 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> There is no central location of servers for it
#3112 [16:27] <Ponti> i'm premium
#3113 [16:27] <Kealper> http://servers/minecraftforum.net
#3114 [16:27] <Kealper> i suck, 1 sec
#3115 [16:27] <Kealper> http://servers.minecraftforum.net
#3116 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> You can go to the forums for SMP server, or #smp.
#3117 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Or you have a friend that can provide you with a private server ip
#3118 [16:27] <Kealper> ok now brb
#3119 [16:28] <Ponti> ah ok thx
#3120 [16:29] <hJulvort> Yeah i turned my windows firewall off, and still same problem, this is very wierd
#3121 [16:30] <xales> hJulvort: can you play minecraft singleplayer?
#3122 [16:30] <hJulvort> yeah
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#3126 [16:36] <hJulvort> very annoying
#3127 [16:36] <hJulvort> has no reason to not work :p
#3128 [16:36] * Kealper is at a loss for said explanation
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#3130 [16:39] <mib_9ap30b> is the hmod released yet for beta
#3131 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3132 [16:39] <Kealper> yes, but this is not the place to ask
#3133 [16:39] <mib_9ap30b> so servers can use it can be on the beta version of the game
#3134 [16:40] <Kealper> yes....
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#3137 [16:50] <sabretoooth> hi there
#3138 [16:50] <Kealper> hi
#3139 [16:51] <sabretoooth> mind helping me out?
#3140 [16:51] <Kealper> depends, what do you need help with?
#3141 [16:51] <sabretoooth> well i decided to transition my server from classic to beta
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#3143 [16:52] <fogWraith_> Sounds delightful
#3144 [16:52] <sabretoooth> and im running the software
#3145 [16:52] <sabretoooth> on a windows server 2008 machine
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#3147 [16:52] <sabretoooth> open ports
#3148 [16:52] <sabretoooth> (well the ones needed anyway)
#3149 [16:53] <sabretoooth> and i get a timeout error when joining
#3150 [16:53] <sabretoooth> and the syslog gives me the [WARNING] Can't keep you message
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#3152 [16:53] <Kealper> hmmm....so the port forwarding is set up all correctly?
#3153 [16:53] <sabretoooth> yeah its set up all perfect
#3154 [16:53] <Kealper> and the warning about can't keep up can be ignored
#3155 [16:53] <sabretoooth> okay
#3156 [16:54] <Kealper> so no one can connect?
#3157 [16:54] <sabretoooth> and ports work cos i did it fine for my other things
#3158 [16:54] <sabretoooth> well the thing is only i have tried to connect
#3159 [16:54] <xales> make sure the ip line in server.properties is empty
#3160 [16:54] <sabretoooth> how so?
#3161 [16:55] <xales> ?
#3162 [16:55] <xales> if you entered an ip in server.properties
#3163 [16:55] <xales> remove it
#3164 [16:55] <sabretoooth> okay ill try
#3165 [16:56] <sabretoooth> i dont know what could be the problem though
#3166 [16:56] <sabretoooth> because i know the port is open on the server
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#3168 [16:56] <sabretoooth> and i can join other servers on the same port
#3169 [16:56] <sabretoooth> but nevertheless can someone try joining?
#3170 [16:56] <Kealper> what is said server's ip and port?
#3171 [16:56] <sabretoooth> 188.121.62.179:25565
#3172 [16:57] <Kealper> !check 188.121.62.179:25565
#3173 [16:57] <xales> !check 188.121.62.179
#3174 [16:57] <xales> lulz
#3175 [16:57] <Kealper> not sure, did i ninja that on your screen? i did on mine
#3176 [16:57] <Kealper> ninja'd
#3177 [16:57] <sabretoooth> hmmm
#3178 [16:57] <Kealper> i should change that
#3179 [16:57] <xales> hahahha your bot saw me first
#3180 [16:58] <sabretoooth> i mustve made a mistake somewhere
#3181 [16:58] <lukegb> !check 127.0.0.1:22
#3182 [16:58] <xales> sabretoooth: port isnt forwarded properly then or you are running the server incorrectly
#3183 [16:58] <lukegb> ;;
#3184 [16:58] <lukegb> !check www.google.com:80
#3185 [16:58] <xales> !check irc.efnet.org:6667
#3186 [16:58] <lukegb> Hooray
#3187 [16:58] <xales> lol
#3188 [16:58] <Kealper> lol
#3189 [16:58] <sabretoooth> this might be a dumb question
#3190 [16:58] <lukegb> !check runescape.com:80
#3191 [16:58] <Kealper> there are never any dumb questions
#3192 [16:59] <lukegb> !check irc.efnet.net:6667
#3193 [16:59] <sabretoooth> but the server doesnt need to be given special permissions to allow outgoing traffic does it?
#3194 [16:59] <mib_3k8org> ive started my multiplayer server now but i got a problem, some squared (close to the spawnpoint i think) cant be mined/built on
#3195 [16:59] <mib_3k8org> if i mine the stone or w/e it reappears
#3196 [16:59] <Kealper> sabretoooth: windows firewall?
#3197 [16:59] <lukegb> !check [::1]:80
#3198 [16:59] <mib_3k8org> and if i build its the same
#3199 [16:59] <Kealper> !check localhost
#3200 [16:59] <lukegb> !check 127.0.0.252
#3201 [16:59] <lukegb> Yay
#3202 [16:59] <mib_3k8org> !check localhost
#3203 [16:59] <mib_3k8org> :<
#3204 [17:00] <Kealper> alright we can stop spamming that now lol
#3205 [17:00] <mib_3k8org> Anyone know what the reason of my problem is? ;p
#3206 [17:00] * Kealper reads problem
#3206 [17:00] <mib_3k8org> The reappearing blocks and nonbuildable zones
#3207 [17:00] <lukegb> You using hMod?
#3208 [17:00] <Kealper> spawn point is protected
#3209 [17:01] <lukegb> ^
#3210 [17:01] <Kealper> move away from spawn
#3211 [17:01] <Kealper> far away, the spawn protection is like 16 block radius
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#3213 [17:01] <mib_3k8org> gah :p im superfar underground and found huge amounts of coal/gold/iron etc and its all within the zone
#3214 [17:01] <mib_3k8org> :<
#3215 [17:02] <lukegb> Heheheh
#3216 [17:02] <Kealper> lol
#3217 [17:02] <mib_3k8org> atleast i can look at them :/ well thanks guys
#3218 [17:02] <Kealper> trophies :P
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#3220 [17:03] <xales> lol
#3221 [17:03] <xales> people use stupid things for their username
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#3223 [17:04] <xales> Kealper: enjoying your irssi? :P
#3224 [17:04] <xales> did you try that fear2 theme?
#3225 [17:04] <sabretoooth> hah im a retard
#3226 [17:04] <Kealper> well, i was going to go get a theme for it, but then i got sidetracked...lol
#3227 [17:04] <sabretoooth> i forgot to add the server to my firewall whitelist
#3228 [17:04] <xales> Kealper: try fear2, from that article. I like that one :D
#3229 [17:04] <Kealper> reddit, such a cruel mistress
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#3231 [17:05] <mib_3k8org> Many might get a random name (like me) ;p a new question! is there a place where you could post ideas and stuff so notch can read them? Like adjusting the "protected spawnpoint" to not protect the entire underground below^^
#3232 [17:05] <xales> mib_3k8org: getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#3233 [17:05] <sabretoooth> and SMP is still only in alpha?
#3234 [17:05] <xales> beta
#3235 [17:06] <Kealper> they just suck at updating that page
#3236 [17:06] <sabretoooth> ah
#3237 [17:06] <sabretoooth> can you share the DL for the beta server?
#3238 [17:06] <xales> !server
#3239 [17:06] <xales> its that page. download is updated. text is not
#3240 [17:07] <sabretoooth> thank you
#3241 [17:07] <Mikau> i use minecraft_server.jar on my windows server.
#3242 [17:07] <Mikau> I'm a rebel.
#3243 [17:07] <Kealper> ok...i have freed myself from the grip of reddit for now...
#3244 [17:07] <Kealper> Mikau: you too? :D
#3245 [17:08] <Kealper> http://www.dedicatedornot.com/sites/kealper.com lol
#3246 [17:09] <sabretoooth> great scott it works
#3247 [17:09] <sabretoooth> :)
#3248 [17:09] <Kealper> !check 188.121.62.179
#3249 [17:09] <Kealper> indeed it does
#3250 [17:09] <sabretoooth> !check 188.121.62.179:25565
#3251 [17:09] <sabretoooth> haha beat me to it
#3252 [17:10] <sabretoooth> thanks for the help
#3253 [17:10] <sabretoooth> bye
#3254 [17:10] <Kealper> cya
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#3256 [17:10] <Kealper> that site thinks my personal server is dedicated, and possibly shared hosting
#3257 [17:10] <xales> it should
#3258 [17:11] <Kealper> the one that runs out of my house lol
#3259 [17:11] <xales> yeah
#3260 [17:11] <xales> it should
#3261 [17:12] <xales> it technically is
#3262 [17:12] <xales> shared hosting = many websites on 1 box
#3263 [17:12] <xales> 1 ip anyway
#3264 [17:12] <Kealper> true, true
#3265 [17:16] <Mikau> Your face is shared hosting.
#3266 [17:16] <Kealper> lol
#3267 [17:17] <Mikau> man overboard?
#3268 [17:17] <Kealper> your mom is shared hosting.
#3269 [17:17] <xales> Kealper: using advstatusbar script?
#3270 [17:17] <Kealper> sorry, had to
#3271 [17:17] <xales> lol
#3272 [17:17] <Mikau> I shared hosting your mom last night.
#3273 [17:17] <Kealper> xales: i haven't thrown any scripts on it yet, reddit got me distracted
#3274 [17:17] <xales> Kealper: I see the advstatusbar as a necessity
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#3276 [17:18] <xales> you can see how mine looks at http://darksigns.net/irssiforever2.png
#3277 [17:18] <xales> if you want me .config let me know
#3278 [17:18] <xales> or .theme, its a slightly custom one
#3279 [17:19] <Kealper> hmm....i wonder how hard it is to make a theme...
#3280 [17:19] <Smiley> oh god thats horrid.
#3281 [17:19] <Smiley> http://images.milkme.co.uk/screenshots/
#3282 [17:19] <Smiley> mines there
#3283 [17:19] <Smiley> can you view it btw?
#3284 [17:19] <Mikau> I will not milk you, sir.
#3285 [17:19] <Smiley> I can on my .... wait no you can't my server is off :D
#3286 [17:19] <xales> :(
#3287 [17:19] <xales> i like mine
#3288 [17:19] <xales> :\
#3289 [17:20] <xales> zoom in, if you have a small screen its probably being pixelated
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#3291 [17:21] <RKde> Hello
#3292 [17:21] <xales> hello
#3293 [17:22] <Kealper> hmm...i liked the colors in xchat (whole line is red if highlighted, joins are green, parts are brown, etc)
#3294 [17:22] <xales> you can set it up like that
#3295 [17:22] <xales> its not hard
#3296 [17:22] <xales> use my theme as a base (:P) and just edit the colors
#3297 [17:22] <Mikau> Your face is set up like that.
#3298 [17:22] <Mikau> ohhhhh buuuuurn
#3299 [17:22] <Mikau> >.>
#3300 [17:22] <xales> :O
#3301 [17:22] <xales> stalker
#3302 [17:22] <xales> how do you know what its like
#3303 [17:22] <Kealper> lol
#3304 [17:22] <Smiley> :<
#3305 [17:22] <Smiley> thats my face
#3306 [17:22] <xales> why did irc just beep
#3307 [17:23] <xales> O_o
#3308 [17:23] <S-T-A-L-K-E-R> guys
#3309 [17:23] <Smiley> my nose got stuck adn then kind of formed into my mouth
#3310 [17:23] <Smiley> strange things happen :|
#3311 [17:23] <S-T-A-L-K-E-R> I have a mission for you
#3312 [17:23] <RKde> I just bought Minecraft today, played a little in singleplayer and want to ask now if somebody wants to show me the deeper game in multyplier. Is there anybody?
#3313 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Deeper game?
#3314 [17:23] <Mikau> You want deeper, RKde?
#3315 [17:23] <Mikau> Dig straight down!
#3316 [17:23] <Kealper> oh god -.-
#3317 [17:23] <Kealper> lol
#3318 [17:23] <xales> http://minecraftwiki.net
#3319 [17:23] <Mikau> :D
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#3321 [17:24] <Mikau> Dig down until you hit bedrock, then go back up about 10 blocks and dig straight!
#3322 [17:24] <Mikau> if you hit lava, you're doing it right!
#3323 [17:24] <xales> why the hell does irc keep beeping
#3324 [17:24] <xales> ._.
#3325 [17:24] <Smiley> beep
#3326 [17:24] <Smiley> :/
#3327 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> xales.. xales... xales. Xales. Xales. XALES.
#3328 [17:25] <RKde> Sorry, no pun intended :-P. I read minecraftwiki but it seems only to be a good source if you know what you are doing. Maybe someone knows a server where some newbies like me can go.
#3329 [17:25] <xales> fuuuuu
#3330 [17:25] <xales> RKde: look at the crafting section
#3331 [17:25] <xales> cruel
#3332 [17:25] <Sami345> RKde, look some lets play videos from youtube
#3333 [17:25] <RKde> I read that too.
#3334 [17:25] <xales> guelph, ontario?
#3335 [17:26] <xales> CruelNoise:
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#3337 [17:26] <Smiley> WTS: Wood and Dirt!
#3338 [17:26] <Grafix> hey, how can i convert a map type meta to mclevel to edit it
#3339 [17:26] <i81u812> what is a block of iron for?
#3340 [17:26] <Ponti> i'm also loking for a newbie server actually
#3341 [17:27] <xales> you need to be using beta
#3342 [17:27] <xales> classic doesnt use mclevel
#3343 [17:27] <Smiley> hahaha
#3344 [17:27] <Smiley> sheep trapped in my super cart
#3345 [17:27] <xales> lol
#3346 [17:27] <Grafix> hm dunno how to do this?
#3347 [17:28] <xales> Grafix: did you buy the game?
#3348 [17:28] <Smiley> its funny because animals get trapped in my cart
#3349 [17:28] <Grafix> yeah
#3350 [17:28] <Smiley> then they travel to the top of my tower
#3351 [17:28] <Smiley> jump out.... TO THEIR DOOOM!
#3352 [17:28] <xales> Grafix: when you play does it say Minecraft Beta in the top left?
#3353 [17:28] <Grafix> we used to have a server some time ago, now we want to edit our old map
#3354 [17:29] <xales> if the map wont open in mcedit
#3355 [17:29] <xales> there is no way to convert it
#3356 [17:29] <xales> sorry :\
#3357 [17:30] <Grafix> oO
#3358 [17:30] <RKde> no one up to take two newbies by his hand?
#3359 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Nothing to really show, read the wiki
#3360 [17:31] <Kealper> i would, but i'm currently tired, and busy :S
#3361 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Look at youtube videos
#3362 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> All the work has already been done
#3363 [17:32] <mib_3k8org> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MqkEZn8pN4&feature=player_embedded
#3364 [17:32] <Smiley> my server is offline unfortunately else i wood
#3365 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Heck, I learned everything I needed to know about minecarts through bob's minecart tutorials.
#3366 [17:32] <Lartza> I can't make a server since it takes so much of goddamn resources, but otherwise I would :P
#3367 [17:32] <RKde> i looked at some youtube videos and read the wiki so far. i even played for several ingame days. i want to see something more.
#3368 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> What else do you want to know/see?
#3369 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> What do you expect from minecraft?
#3370 [17:33] <Ponti> same here, creepers just keep killing me after dawn...
#3371 [17:33] <RKde> thats a good question
#3372 [17:34] <Ponti> I just wanna have fun and work together with someone and build nice stuff
#3373 [17:35] <RKde> I expect to build better houses, where I can find more material (I never saw diamond so far), maybe working with someone else together.
#3374 [17:35] <xales> make a sword and walk backwards while hitting creeper
#3375 [17:35] <xales> then you wont keep dying
#3376 [17:35] <xales> also, look on the wiki about how to find diamond
#3377 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Or set it on peaceful difficulty. No mobs to worry about
#3378 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Once you're confident you can handle some, turn it back up
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#3380 [17:36] <xales> GreyVulpine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ
#3381 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3382 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez
#3383 [17:36] <xales> lawlz
#3384 [17:37] <Ponti> if you change difficulty, does that also alter existing maps?
#3385 [17:37] <xales> GreyVulpine: my shipping boat is leaving now
#3386 [17:37] * xales parts
#3386 [17:37] <xales> no it doesnt
#3387 [17:37] <xales> you can change difficulty at any time, even while playing
#3388 [17:37] <RKde> Well, I guess, I will keep playing singleplayer. Nonetheless: thank you guys and have a great day :-).
#3389 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#3390 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> "Luckily I speek l33t"
#3391 [17:38] <xales> xD
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#3394 [17:46] <i81u812> whats feathers for?
#3395 [17:46] <Ponti> arrows
#3396 [17:49] <i81u812> is there any enemies when its on peaceful?
#3397 [17:49] <Kealper> no
#3398 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> No
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#3400 [17:49] <Lartza> No little slimes?
#3401 [17:50] <i81u812> even existing enemies?
#3402 [17:50] <xales> existing enemies go away
#3403 [17:50] <xales> slimes have been broken for a long time
#3404 [17:50] <xales> they dont spawn ever
#3405 [17:50] <i81u812> just walk away...
#3406 [17:50] <i81u812> ok ty
#3407 [17:50] <Lartza> xales, So that's why Iäve never seen em! :D
#3408 [17:50] <Lartza> *I've
#3409 [17:51] <xales> indeed
#3410 [17:51] <JCBeef> Can anyone help me with portforwarding, I'm fairly certain I have the ports forwarded correctly (but apparently not), It tries to log others into my server but eventually times them out.
#3411 [17:51] <xales> JCBeef: portforward.com
#3412 [17:51] <xales> follow guide
#3413 [17:51] <xales> its not easy for us to help you because every single router on the market is different
#3414 [17:51] <Lartza> I haven't played that long, I got a copy from *bzzZZtttt* and after confirming it could run on my P3 800Mhz I bought it :)
#3415 [17:51] <JCBeef> Thanks, but i've tried that before
#3416 [17:52] <xales> can you connect using 127.0.0.1?
#3417 [17:52] <JCBeef> True i suppose i haven't thought about that, If it helps im on a 2wire 38000 HGBV
#3418 [17:52] <JCBeef> And yes i can connect using the local
#3419 [17:52] <xales> try disabling (completely) any firewall
#3420 [17:52] <JCBeef> Alright just a moment i'll check
#3421 [17:53] <Lartza> Try to connect from LAn to see if it's firewall or router issue
#3422 [17:54] <JCBeef> Okay firewall is down
#3423 [17:54] <xales> what is your external ip?
#3424 [17:54] <xales> !check 99-72-52-209.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net
#3425 [17:55] <xales> JCBeef: external ip?
#3426 [17:55] <JCBeef> Sorry what?
#3427 [17:55] <xales> whats your external IP
#3428 [17:55] <JCBeef> 99.72.52.209
#3429 [17:56] <xales> !check 99.72.52.209
#3430 [17:56] <xales> !check 99.72.52.209
#3431 [17:56] <xales> then port is forwarded wrong, which unfortunately I can't help with
#3432 [17:57] <JCBeef> My server isn't up would that help with what you're checking?
#3433 [17:58] <xales> well yes
#3434 [17:58] <xales> ._.
#3435 [17:58] <JCBeef> :3 sorry
#3436 [17:59] <xales> let me know when its up
#3437 [17:59] <JCBeef> It's now up
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#3439 [18:00] <xales> !check 99.72.52.209
#3440 [18:01] <xales> port isnt forwarded them then
#3441 [18:01] <JCBeef> Alright, thanks any further tips, or should i just try wiggling around with it on my own?
#3442 [18:01] <Sami345> I recommend just disabling NAT
#3443 [18:02] <Sami345> It is stupid anyway
#3444 [18:02] <xales> what if there is more than 1 computer
#3445 [18:02] <xales> :P
#3446 [18:02] <Sami345> ?
#3447 [18:02] <Sami345> every computer has it's own IP?
#3448 [18:02] <xales> can't do that
#3449 [18:02] <xales> on a home connection
#3450 [18:03] <xales> or with the routers you get for home connections
#3451 [18:03] <xales> :(
#3452 [18:03] <Sami345> then you have a stupid ISP
#3453 [18:03] <Sami345> I have max 5 dynamic address
#3454 [18:03] <xales> all home isps, just about everywhere
#3455 [18:03] <xales> do that
#3456 [18:03] <xales> ._.
#3457 [18:03] <JCBeef> !check 99.72.52.209
#3458 [18:03] <xales> actually I don't think there is an ISP in the entire country that doesn't do that
#3459 [18:04] <JCBeef> haha can i use that? :3
#3460 [18:04] <Sami345> xales, atleast in Finland is
#3461 [18:04] <xales> Sami345: ._.
#3462 [18:04] <JCBeef> THEN I MUST TRY HARDER!
#3463 [18:06] <JCBeef> Hooray i've made it one step farther
#3464 [18:06] <JCBeef> No longer am i getting timed out but it's now refusing my connection.
#3465 [18:06] <Sami345> lol
#3466 [18:06] <Sami345> Have you checked your firewall?
#3467 [18:07] <JCBeef> Disabled currently
#3468 [18:07] <JCBeef> !check 99.72.52.209
#3469 [18:07] <xales> sounds like the port
#3470 [18:07] <xales> is forwarded to the wrong address then?
#3471 [18:07] <JCBeef> Hmmm perhaps
#3472 [18:08] <JCBeef> One last thing
#3473 [18:08] <JCBeef> Fingers crossed
#3474 [18:08] <JCBeef> !check 99.72.52.209
#3475 [18:09] <Sami345> xales, there are some bad things too tough the fast home connection here you can get: down 8 Mbps up 1 Mbps
#3476 [18:09] <xales> well then
#3477 [18:09] <Sami345> *fastes
#3478 [18:09] <xales> I guess its a compromise
#3479 [18:09] <Grafix> is it possible to convert meta to dat?
#3480 [18:09] <xales> Grafix: what?
#3481 [18:10] <Grafix> map types
#3482 [18:10] <Grafix> sry^^
#3483 [18:10] <JCBeef> !check 99.72.52.209
#3484 [18:10] <xales> oh
#3485 [18:10] <xales> no there isn't
#3486 [18:10] <xales> that I know of
#3487 [18:10] <xales> look on the forum
#3488 [18:10] <Grafix> which one?
#3489 [18:10] <JCBeef> !check 99.72.52.209
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#3491 [18:11] <JCBeef> Timed out again...
#3492 [18:11] <xales> Grafix: http://minecraftforum.net
#3493 [18:11] <Monkey> my server won't work
#3494 [18:11] <xales> JCBeef: make sure to forward TCP and UDP on port 25565 to your ip address
#3495 [18:11] <xales> your _internal_ ip address
#3496 [18:11] <xales> Monkey: I can magically tell you how to fix it without knowing what the proble mis
#3497 [18:11] <Grafix> thx
#3498 [18:12] <Kealper> Monkey: he means we need more info than just "it doesn't work"...that's like walking up to a mechanic and saying "my car makes a noise"
#3499 [18:12] <Monkey> it keeps crashing for one
#3500 [18:12] <Monkey> one sec
#3501 [18:13] <JCBeef> Yup got that down xales, thanks though, oh and one other issue i'm having, my server will only run if my IP ISN'T listed under server.properties, normally only i can get on it, but if the IP is listed it wont even start up.
#3502 [18:13] <xales> JCBeef: thats how it should be
#3503 [18:13] <JCBeef> Alright just double checking, thanks
#3504 [18:14] <xales> yup
#3505 [18:16] <JCBeef> What if i tried DMZ Plus mode? Or are there any other suggested ports that would make it a little easier?
#3506 [18:16] <Monkey> all of the sudden it randomly crashes and gives me the message <Internal Exceptoin: java.net.SocketExceptoin: connection reset
#3507 [18:16] <Kealper> DMZ should be avoided at all costs unless you are a network technician or have a death wish
#3508 [18:17] <JCBeef> :P Thanks
#3509 [18:18] <Monkey> all of the sudden it randomly crashes and gives me the message <Internal Exceptoin: java.net.SocketExceptoin: connection reset>
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#3511 [18:19] <Kealper> is it crashing a ton? or just that once?
#3512 [18:19] <Monkey> every time
#3513 [18:19] <Kealper> also...the connection reset in your client is because the server crashed....
#3514 [18:19] <JCBeef> What about different ports? I heard 80 was available if you had port forwarding issues, but it's the HTTP port so it's dangerous or something...I'm just not sure with ports, i usually default to hamachi because I hate dealing with them.
#3515 [18:20] <Kealper> is there any error log or something?
#3516 [18:20] <Kealper> JCBeef: you could try 80
#3517 [18:21] <JCBeef> Alright i'll give it a whirl just a moment.
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#3519 [18:21] <xales> JCBeef: forwarding a different port wont help
#3520 [18:21] <xales> also many home isps block inbound port 80 kealper
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#3522 [18:21] <xales> so thats a bad suggestion
#3523 [18:21] <mikeholla> xales
#3524 [18:21] <xales> what
#3525 [18:21] <mikeholla> its still not working
#3526 [18:21] <mikeholla> i am sad.
#3527 [18:21] <xales> ._.
#3528 [18:21] <xales> not much I can do, sorry :\
#3529 [18:22] <mikeholla> should i just delete system32?
#3530 [18:22] <Kealper> xales: i haven't even been following what his issue was :S lol
#3531 [18:22] <barrycarlyon> mikeholla: whats the problem?
#3532 [18:22] <mikeholla> i have a better idea.
#3533 [18:22] <mikeholla> you download teamviewer
#3534 [18:22] <mikeholla> and get on
#3535 [18:22] <JCBeef> Port 80 refused as well
#3536 [18:22] <mikeholla> then maybe you can fix it
#3537 [18:22] <mikeholla> ok xales?
#3538 [18:22] <xales> ._.
#3539 [18:22] <mikeholla> please
#3540 [18:22] <mikeholla> im desperate
#3541 [18:23] <xales> i was just about to leave for dinner
#3542 [18:23] <xales> however
#3543 [18:23] <mikeholla> no help on forums = -_-
#3544 [18:23] <xales> Kealper would love to help you
#3545 [18:23] <barrycarlyon> What is the problem?
#3546 [18:23] <JCBeef> By the way should the Application be on the Hosted side or the Application side.
#3547 [18:23] <xales> he is good with teamviewer
#3548 [18:23] <mikeholla> :]
#3549 [18:23] <Kealper> JCBeef: plug your computer directly in to your modem
#3550 [18:23] <Kealper> xales: i hate you lol
#3551 [18:23] <mikeholla> kealper
#3552 [18:23] <Kealper> i was just getting ready to fetch some dinner and watch some tv -.-
#3553 [18:23] <mikeholla> help m3h
#3554 [18:23] <xales> Kealper I was saving your ass last time
#3555 [18:23] <xales> its your turn
#3556 [18:23] <barrycarlyon> mikeholla: what is the problem?
#3557 [18:23] <Kealper> true...
#3558 [18:23] <mikeholla> it'll only be a few minutes
#3559 [18:23] <xales> I get to eat dinner like a normal person this time
#3560 [18:24] <xales> I helped you with irssi too :P
#3561 [18:24] <mikeholla> Kealper you are the master
#3562 [18:24] <Mikau> You're the IRS?
#3563 [18:24] <Mikau> YOU BASTARD
#3564 [18:24] <froglegstew> Hey, I've been having some trouble playing minecraft. I recently got a new computer, I've had it for about 2 days and its a pretty powerful computer but when I play minecraft something strange happens, the game runs perfectly for about 15 minutes, and then it just crashes my entire computer, anyone know some possible solutions?
#3565 [18:24] <mikeholla> h3lp m3h
#3566 [18:24] <JCBeef> !check 99.72.52.209
#3567 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> froglegstew - Does it leave any error logs/reports behind?
#3568 [18:24] <mikeholla> frogle do you have 64 bit or 32 bit
#3569 [18:24] <Kealper> mikeholla: fill me in....i don't even know your issue is :S
#3570 [18:24] <froglegstew> 64
#3571 [18:24] <mikeholla> ok so kealper
#3572 [18:25] <mikeholla> I have a VPS server
#3573 [18:25] <mikeholla> and everything is good
#3574 [18:25] <mikeholla> with it
#3575 [18:25] <barrycarlyon> froglegstew: assuming windows, update graphics card drivers from manufacturer site, update windows and java.
#3576 [18:25] <mikeholla> players can connect and everything
#3577 [18:25] <froglegstew> ya
#3578 [18:25] <mikeholla> and just recently
#3579 [18:25] <mikeholla> when i connect on THIS and THIS computer only, I cant play
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#3581 [18:25] <JCBeef> !check 99.72.52.209
#3582 [18:25] <mikeholla> i get into the server and the world generates like 1 chunk
#3583 [18:25] <mikeholla> and i can move but nothing responds
#3584 [18:25] <Kealper> mikeholla: can you connect to other servers?
#3585 [18:25] <froglegstew> ok barry I'll try updating the video card
#3586 [18:26] <mikeholla> let me try.
#3587 [18:26] <mikeholla> IP for one?
#3588 [18:26] <Kealper> mc.kealper.com
#3589 [18:27] <mikeholla> logging in..
#3590 [18:27] <Mikau> froglegstew, is it BSOD?
#3591 [18:27] <barrycarlyon> Mikau: java gives up and crashes.
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#3593 [18:28] <Mikau> ah, my fancy pants computer does the same thing.
#3594 [18:28] <Mikau> My laptop runs fine however.
#3595 [18:28] <barrycarlyon> :-)
#3596 [18:28] <Mikau> I don't think Minecraft likes really high end spec'd computers.
#3597 [18:29] <barrycarlyon> I blame java not mc.
#3598 [18:29] <barrycarlyon> Personally I really blame windows.
#3599 [18:31] <Radiant> Excuse me, does anyone know how I can contanct Notch?
#3600 [18:31] <barrycarlyon> Radiant: why?
#3601 [18:32] <Radiant> Just wondering if he can fix a typo in my username.
#3602 [18:32] <barrycarlyon> Nope.
#3603 [18:32] <Radiant> ; ~;
#3604 [18:32] <barrycarlyon> I recal reading something where he can not do username changes.
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#3606 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> He can't
#3607 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> I asked him myself
#3608 [18:32] <barrycarlyon> :-D
#3609 [18:33] <Radiant> Not even if it's a switch from captial to lowercase thing?
#3610 [18:33] <barrycarlyon> I think I read it on twitter or in here :-D
#3611 [18:33] * GreyVulpine shakes
#3611 [18:33] <Kealper> he can't change usernames due to bad design when starting out
#3612 [18:33] <Radiant> How so?
#3613 [18:33] <mikeholla> kealper
#3614 [18:33] <Kealper> accounts are tied to the username, not a user id
#3615 [18:34] <barrycarlyon> Too much client side storage I think. Player.days....
#3616 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> username's tied into the premium status
#3617 [18:34] <mikeholla> minecraft is lagging
#3618 [18:34] <barrycarlyon> .dats*
#3619 [18:34] <Guilemouse> Does anyone know what type of java file minecraft beta requires for a CentOS server?
#3620 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Change username, can't link to premium
#3621 [18:34] <mikeholla> its just a .sh
#3622 [18:34] <mikeholla> it should be like cd (dir name)
#3623 [18:35] <mikeholla> then ./server_nogui.sh start
#3624 [18:35] <Guilemouse> @ mike is that my reply ? Sorry a bit confused
#3625 [18:35] <mikeholla> yeah
#3626 [18:35] <mikeholla> thats your reply sorry
#3627 [18:35] <mikeholla> i have a CentOS server too
#3628 [18:35] <mikeholla> :]
#3629 [18:36] <JCBeef> Question: Would using No-IP to redirect a port on 80 work the same as forwarding a port if your server is set up on port 80?
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#3631 [18:36] <barrycarlyon> Guilemouse: can you be more specifc about what you want>?
#3632 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> JCBeef - it just redirects to your IP
#3633 [18:36] <Radiant> Alrighty, thanks I suppose.
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#3635 [18:36] <Guilemouse> No problem, sorry for losing track of it. But I mean like a java pack that can execute java commands. I downloaded java jre through yum install java jre command.
#3636 [18:37] <JCBeef> Well...i tried i guess, thanks though, i'll fiddle with it more tommorow, thank you again.
#3637 [18:37] <Guilemouse> I am quite relieved that mike is running CentOS aswell =)
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#3639 [18:38] <barrycarlyon> Guilemouse: you'd need the path to the java executable, unless its in your path anyway.
#3640 [18:38] <barrycarlyon> If in doubt I always restart the box.
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#3642 [18:39] <barrycarlyon> but this should work:
#3643 [18:39] <barrycarlyon> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3644 [18:39] <Guilemouse> Long story short, first time using any linux OS. I got a friend over mumble voice chat explaining the basics but never touched CentOS . I'm unsure what to download for the "java" command to work. It might be a path problem but I can't seem to solve it by bashrc either
#3645 [18:40] <barrycarlyon> Ah
#3646 [18:40] <Guilemouse> Sorry for the slow typing, just unsure how to word linux command line problems =P
#3647 [18:40] <barrycarlyon> If you did yum install you should have it. I don't use centos myself.
#3648 [18:40] <LordFear> Anyone else having massive server preformance issues? (Vanilla)
#3649 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, nope
#3650 [18:40] <Guilemouse> I did that command before, found it on Notch's instructions on server install
#3651 [18:41] <Guilemouse> but that doesn't work
#3652 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Guilemouse - Did you install java?
#3653 [18:41] <Guilemouse> it replies to me "java command not found" or something
#3654 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#3655 [18:41] <Guilemouse> I think i do, forgot what I installed the first time though
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#3657 [18:41] <Guilemouse> I did yum java jre or something similar to that
#3658 [18:41] <Guilemouse> yum install*
#3659 [18:42] <Guilemouse> but on the main minecraft page notch mentioned Sun JVM ?
#3660 [18:42] <Guilemouse> bit confused about where to find that
#3661 [18:42] <LordFear> That's for windows users afaik.
#3662 [18:42] * GreyVulpine shakes
#3662 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Guilemouse - java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#3663 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Get your appropriate linux build
#3664 [18:43] <barrycarlyon> LordFear: define server performance issues.
#3665 [18:43] * barrycarlyon defers Guilemouse to GreyVulpine
#3665 [18:43] <LordFear> Huge lag spikes not related to the host.
#3666 [18:43] <Guilemouse> @GreyVulpine RPM or no RPM?
#3667 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> RPM
#3668 [18:44] <barrycarlyon> LordFear: where is it hosted?
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#3670 [18:44] <Guilemouse> @Greyvulpine doing it now
#3671 [18:44] <LordFear> It's mainly hosted on a VPS which is capable enough to run it. It all started after the beta update.
#3672 [18:44] <LordFear> I tried hosting it on a real dedicated server which my other community has
#3673 [18:44] <LordFear> Same issue
#3674 [18:45] <LordFear> Even worse on there even.
#3675 [18:45] <LordFear> actually*
#3676 [18:45] <barrycarlyon> LordFear: running latest version?
#3677 [18:45] <LordFear> Yes
#3678 [18:45] <barrycarlyon> Not sure then unless your getting network congestion, or your host doesn't like you running minecraft and is imposing speedlimits.
#3679 [18:46] <barrycarlyon> I'd check with them first as there could be congestion in their data center.
#3680 [18:46] <LordFear> The thing is, the VPS is hosted in germany and I've talked to them and they said it's fine.
#3681 [18:46] <barrycarlyon> Or there is a beta bug :-D
#3682 [18:46] <barrycarlyon> LordFear: leaf decay.... lol Not sure.
#3683 [18:46] <LordFear> The dedicated server is on SoftLayer and has enough power to handle it fine.
#3684 [18:47] <kinetik> Think minecraft is playable on a pentium4 2.8ghz with 2gb ram?
#3685 [18:47] * GreyVulpine pokes Guilemouse with http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/PluginsFor64BitFirefox
#3685 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> That explains it better than I could.
#3686 [18:47] <LordFear> The dedicated server is a Intel XEON 2.67x8 GHz with 16gb of ram.
#3687 [18:47] <LordFear> Running Windows Server 2003
#3688 [18:47] <kinetik> lol
#3689 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Just update it from jre-6u22 to jre-6u23
#3690 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Also, just follow step 3 and 4
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#3692 [18:50] <Guilemouse> Sorry, I was looking up the whole time where to get jre-6u23-linux-i586-rpm.bin on CentOS the ftp link and such.
#3693 [18:51] <Guilemouse> CentOS is not very noob friendly sadly
#3694 [18:51] * GreyVulpine snerks
#3694 [18:51] <Kealper> no....no it is not
#3695 [18:51] <Kealper> lol
#3696 [18:51] <Guilemouse> I'm litterally sweating over how this works
#3697 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> it's actually really easy
#3698 [18:52] <LordFear> Linux in general don't tend to be very noob friendly ;)
#3699 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Just get the RPM bin file, use "sh" on it
#3700 [18:52] <Kealper> after messing around with trying to get all the crap for irssi set up on centos....i now have a new most hated OS lol
#3701 [18:52] <LordFear> Specially not without a GUI
#3702 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> it'll install
#3703 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Then "java -version" to get the version, and check if java works
#3704 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Just some people aren't used to the less forgiving command line.
#3705 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Years of windows and mac have rotted users' minds
#3706 [18:53] <Kealper> consider my mind rotted then
#3707 [18:53] <Kealper> although it's starting to come back to life again after today
#3708 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#3709 [18:53] <Guilemouse> Yeah like running your first program. @Kealper I can feel you for that lol. @LordFear I do a bit of programming so gUI is not the issue. @GreyVulpine I thank you for staying here for the support. Sorry for being slow on this
#3710 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> No need to be sorry, we're here to help.
#3711 [18:54] <LordFear> Well I'm just saying that it's even less noob friendly without a GUI. I had problems at first too.
#3712 [18:55] <LordFear> I still have sometimes.
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#3714 [18:55] <Mushuukyou> veins don't respawn do they?
#3715 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> No
#3716 [18:55] <Mushuukyou> so once you clear the map you're done
#3717 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#3718 [18:56] <LordFear> You can't really clear the map though. Since it generates more.
#3719 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> With something like 8x the surface area of Earth... I don't think you're going to clear the map anytime soon
#3720 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Just move on
#3721 [18:56] <Mushuukyou> generates more?
#3722 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#3723 [18:56] <Mushuukyou> it's not a fixed map to begin ith?
#3724 [18:56] <LordFear> No
#3725 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> beta, isn't
#3726 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> classic was
#3727 [18:56] <Mushuukyou> oh man
#3728 [18:56] <Mushuukyou> nice
#3729 [18:56] <Guilemouse> @GreyVulpine wait a minute, I just realized the wiki is for 64 bit, my VPS CentOS is 32. Should I install repo differently ?
#3730 [18:56] <Mushuukyou> so you can keep goign and it'll make new continents?
#3731 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> You'll want the 32 bit RPM then
#3732 [18:57] <Guilemouse> ah
#3733 [18:57] <LordFear> Of course it has a limit, but trust me. The world will get HUGE before you hit that limit.
#3734 [18:57] <LordFear> Yes
#3735 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Guilemouse - Did you get jre-6u23-linux-i586-rpm.bin or the jre-6u23-linux-x64-rpm.bin
#3736 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> the former is the 32bit one
#3737 [19:01] <xales> im back
#3738 [19:01] <xales> :)
#3739 [19:01] <Guilemouse> I haven't got either yet, still reading on that wikipedia page about the instructions.
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#3741 [19:04] <Guilemouse> @GreyVulpine do I need the jre-6u23-linux-i586-rpm.bin still or is that the 64 bit?
#3742 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> That's 32bit
#3743 [19:04] <LordFear> Oh god, I tried updating Java and now it's even worse...
#3744 [19:05] <Guilemouse> so either is fine but jre-6u23-linux-i586-rpm.bin is the updated one. ?
#3745 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3746 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> That's the latest version
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#3748 [19:05] <MaudDib> evening
#3749 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> G'vening gov'ner
#3750 [19:05] <Kealper> ello
#3751 [19:05] <MaudDib> was wondering if i could ask about a little graphics glitch in MC thats been bothering me a while
#3752 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#3753 [19:06] <MaudDib> i seem to be able to see lava/water/etc between cubes when i look down at the ground, and gets pretty bad with blocks in the distance as i look towards horizon
#3754 [19:06] <MaudDib> also get these weird lines around torches and plants too
#3755 [19:07] <LordFear> The look down thingy is because your client haven't gotten the chunk yet.
#3756 [19:07] <MaudDib> anyway to fix that? or is that something not fixed?
#3757 [19:07] <LordFear> No, it's up to Notch I guess.
#3758 [19:08] <Kealper> uhh...all block types will have a selection box around them if you look at them, and the other thing is probably slow-loading chunks
#3759 [19:08] <MaudDib> no...its more like, if i look down at a large plain of grass
#3760 [19:08] <LordFear> The distance thingy came with the beta. You see repeating chunks in the distance don't you?
#3761 [19:08] <MaudDib> i can see thin lines of stuff between the cubes
#3762 [19:09] <Guilemouse> @GreyVulpine how do I download the RPM file again with command line?
#3763 [19:09] <MaudDib> like the texture isnt going all the way to the edge or something
#3764 [19:09] <Kealper> wget? lol
#3765 [19:09] <MaudDib> lord: this has been happeining to me since 1.2.2
#3766 [19:09] <Kealper> O.o
#3767 [19:09] <Guilemouse> I know wget but the html link for it
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#3769 [19:09] <MaudDib> and has not changed with recent builds
#3770 [19:10] <Hathadar> I am trying to download http://www.minecraft.net/docs/NBT.txt however the file is no longer present. Can someone hook me up with a copy or link me to one?
#3771 [19:10] <Kealper> MaudDib: sounds like you've got something flunky with your graphics drivers then
#3772 [19:10] <Kealper> Hathadar: gimme a sec
#3773 [19:10] <Guilemouse> i copied from html but it doesn't work
#3774 [19:11] <Kealper> Hathadar: guess i don't have it anymore, sorry :S
#3775 [19:11] <Hathadar> anyone else?
#3776 [19:11] <Kealper> send an email to support@mojang.com and tell them that the file is no longer there from the recent website update, they'll hook you up
#3777 [19:12] <Kealper> could take a day or so to get a response though
#3778 [19:12] <MaudDib> http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu259/MaudDibb/glitches.png
#3779 [19:13] <MaudDib> that might explain things better =)
#3780 [19:13] <Kealper> that is most definately a graphics driver bug
#3781 [19:13] <Kealper> why does it look like you are running that in 16-bit color aswell?
#3782 [19:14] <Guilemouse> The file works if I download on windows, but after copying the html link through this browser, I do wget [html download link] the file I get when I do "ls" is "jre-6u23-linux-i586-rpm.bin?e=1293407511&h=a219d5372f5789288042668ce896a528"
#3783 [19:14] <MaudDib> its not, im 32bit on my desktop
#3784 [19:14] <Guilemouse> shoudln't it end with a .bin extension clean off
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#3786 [19:14] <MaudDib> kealper: i converted the png to 8 bit, prolly dithering killed
#3787 [19:14] <MaudDib> killed it
#3788 [19:14] <Kealper> remove the params on that link Guilemouse
#3789 [19:15] <Kealper> MaudDib: oh lol
#3790 [19:15] <MaudDib> but those artifacts were there since i started playing
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#3792 [19:15] <Guilemouse> I did remove the parameters
#3793 [19:15] <Guilemouse> the square bracket parameters
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#3795 [19:15] <mikelollu> Kealper
#3796 [19:15] <mikelollu> guess what?
#3797 [19:15] <MaudDib> k lesse if nvidia has something new for me
#3798 [19:15] <MaudDib> thanks
#3799 [19:15] <Kealper> mikelollu: still fails?
#3800 [19:15] <mikelollu> Yup.
#3801 [19:16] <Kealper> then i'm at a total loss of ideas
#3802 [19:16] <mikelollu> i got 2 errors in the console
#3803 [19:16] <mikelollu> Connection Reset
#3804 [19:16] <mikelollu> and Broken pipe
#3805 [19:16] <mikelollu> http://pastebin.com/p8VYJcyj
#3806 [19:17] <Kealper> i've said everything i could think of :S
#3807 [19:17] <mikelollu> read that
#3808 [19:17] <mikelollu> READ IT
#3809 [19:17] <Kealper> calm down there, you'll give yourself a coronary
#3810 [19:17] <mikelollu> lol.
#3811 [19:18] <mikelollu> whatever those errors mean thats whats happening
#3812 [19:18] <Kealper> if i had to guess from the broken pipe...something with your NIC, but i have no idea how that could have broken within the last day
#3813 [19:18] <Kealper> you might just be stuck having to play minecraft on your laptop
#3814 [19:19] <mikelollu> but
#3815 [19:19] <mikelollu> it runs at like 7 fps
#3816 [19:19] <mikelollu> unless i bought windows 7 64 bit for that
#3817 [19:19] <Kealper> what does your laltop run right now?
#3818 [19:20] <Kealper> laptop*
#3819 [19:20] <mikelollu> it runs vista 32 bit
#3820 [19:20] * Kealper shudders
#3820 [19:20] <mikelollu> i know
#3821 [19:20] <mikelollu> its my moms
#3822 [19:21] <mikelollu> it has 4 gb of ram but 32 bit and vista dont recognize it
#3823 [19:21] <mikelollu> so im trying to convince her to buy 64 bit 7
#3824 [19:21] <Kealper> :/
#3825 [19:22] <Kealper> anywho...i can't fix your issue
#3826 [19:22] <mikelollu> then i could run minecraft on it no problem
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#3828 [19:22] <Kealper> but i'm tired, so i'm going to go relax, watch some shows, then go to bed now....
#3829 [19:23] <MaudDib> thanks for the advice man. grabbing latest driver as we speak. all 130 megs of it =)
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#3831 [19:23] <Guilemouse> @Kealper thanks for the help here.
#3832 [19:24] <Guilemouse> I think I got the RPM working now
#3833 [19:24] <mikelollu> Kealper
#3834 [19:24] <mikelollu> im gonna just delete system32 folder
#3835 [19:24] <mikelollu> hopefully that will fix it.
#3836 [19:25] * Kealper pretends not to see that
#3836 [19:25] <Guilemouse> @mikelollu deleting system32 is only removing a pointer towards the actual data
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#3838 [19:26] <Guilemouse> @mikelollu so after restarting the computer the pointer will restore itself
#3839 [19:26] <MaudDib> and the monkey flips the switch
#3840 [19:26] <mikelollu> Im just going to take out my motherboard and smash it.
#3841 [19:26] <mikelollu> :D
#3842 [19:27] <MaudDib> make a clip of it, title it "FPS Doug VS Minecraft"
#3843 [19:29] <xales> Guilemouse: nope :P
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#3845 [19:30] <Guilemouse> @xales please explain
#3846 [19:30] <xales> system32 isn't a pointer to anything
#3847 [19:30] <Guilemouse> wait is this my linux problem or the system32 thing
#3848 [19:30] <xales> system32
#3849 [19:30] <Guilemouse> no it isn't
#3850 [19:30] <xales> :P
#3851 [19:31] <Guilemouse> but removing the file is removing the pointer
#3852 [19:31] <xales> deleting the system32 folder
#3853 [19:31] <xales> will fuck the computer up pretty bad
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#3855 [19:31] <xales> it won't boot
#3856 [19:31] <xales> because your deleting core DDLs, provided they aren't in use
#3857 [19:31] <MaudDib> kealper: you're my hero. that did it.
#3858 [19:31] <xales> DLLs*
#3859 [19:31] <Guilemouse> I'll get back to you after centOS xD
#3860 [19:32] <xales> what?
#3861 [19:32] <Guilemouse> i was here for some help on setting up a minecraft server on centOS
#3862 [19:32] <xales> ok
#3863 [19:32] <xales> did kealper help you?
#3864 [19:32] <Guilemouse> following instructions still, very slowly
#3865 [19:32] <xales> http://linux-command.org
#3866 [19:33] <xales> err no -
#3867 [19:33] <Guilemouse> yeah a lot of people did jump in, grey vulpine and keapler is the only two i remember for now
#3868 [19:33] <xales> they are the only 2 official helpers active around now, usually
#3869 [19:33] <xales> and me
#3870 [19:33] <xales> but I was eating dinner
#3871 [19:33] <Guilemouse> ah
#3872 [19:33] <xales> >.>
#3873 [19:33] <Guilemouse> and this other person who said they have centOS
#3874 [19:33] <Guilemouse> I forgot who that was =(
#3875 [19:33] <Guilemouse> probably should scroll up to credit
#3876 [19:34] <i81u812> how do i find the server list?
#3877 [19:34] <xales> meh, I don't care. I was only on to check if I had gotten pinged
#3878 [19:34] <xales> im probably going to watch a movie now
#3879 [19:34] <i81u812> ...
#3880 [19:34] <xales> i81u812: servers.minecraftforum.net
#3881 [19:34] <xales> also google
#3882 [19:34] <Guilemouse> ps xales the link doesn't seem to work
#3883 [19:35] <xales> works for me
#3884 [19:35] <xales> http://servers.minecraftforum.net/
#3885 [19:35] <Guilemouse> oh not that
#3886 [19:35] <xales> oh
#3887 [19:35] <Guilemouse> the linux command one
#3888 [19:35] <xales> http://linuxcommand.org
#3889 [19:35] <xales> also works
#3890 [19:35] <Guilemouse> i can google just aswell xD
#3891 [19:35] <xales> :)
#3892 [19:36] <Guilemouse> centOS is a bit different in commands, but thanks for providing that one anyways. I haven't used any linux OS'
#3893 [19:36] <Guilemouse> http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=25880 the "yum" thing
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#3896 [19:44] <Kealper> ok...guess it has a link command...works a bit differently but same end result
#3897 [19:44] <Kealper> actually afk now
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#3902 [19:52] <UncleBill> ok im gonna be annoying and ask this again..
#3903 [19:52] <UncleBill> i realize i am getting corrupt/missing chunks due to windows i suppose
#3904 [19:53] <UncleBill> we have a dedicated server setup
#3905 [19:53] <UncleBill> it is running windows
#3906 [19:53] <UncleBill> if we have a VM server set up running linux, why would this still cause a problem
#3907 [19:53] <UncleBill> if the vm software uses a different partition to operate
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#3909 [19:54] <NinjaKirby> How long has it been possible to lay down Iron? Maybe it's just something I've never been compelled to do O_o
#3910 [19:54] <Mikau> Iron blocks?
#3911 [19:55] <NinjaKirby> Ya, lay it down in its natural form you'd find it in
#3912 [19:55] <Mikau> oh yeah, long long time
#3913 [19:55] <NinjaKirby> Damn, fair enough, heh
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#3915 [19:57] <fenster> Can someone give me the Windows.natives file from their minecraft folder? My damn computer wont download it from minecraft's site.
#3916 [19:58] <inph> does anyone know why minecraft generates a high load with no cpu usage on a linux server which has no clients connected?
#3917 [19:59] <NinjaKirby> Fenster, is that just the .minecraft folder from AppData?
#3918 [20:00] <fenster> I think so
#3919 [20:00] <fenster> Whenever I start I get Fatal Error Occured (4) :
#3920 [20:00] <Mikau> Have you tried deleting the whole folder, then running the client as administrator?
#3921 [20:00] <fenster> I havent, ill do that now
#3922 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> Or backing up the folder and saving maps O_o
#3923 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> If there is maps stored.
#3924 [20:01] <fenster> Im not particularly worried about losing my saves
#3925 [20:01] <fenster> I havent played in months.
#3926 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm... fair enough
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#3928 [20:02] <Mikau> I find a world to be so depressing knowing you've died on it.
#3929 [20:02] <Mikau> I made this awesome floating villa out in the water with a nice lava moat around it.
#3930 [20:02] <Mikau> Then I died in lava.
#3931 [20:03] <Mikau> It feels like it's not my home anymore. :(
#3932 [20:04] <NinjaKirby> The whole world, or just depressing you died in your safe home?
#3933 [20:04] <fenster> ehm. wheres the app data folder?
#3934 [20:05] <fenster> I cant find it :x
#3935 [20:05] <NinjaKirby> C:\Users\[User Login Name]\App Data on Win7, I think
#3936 [20:06] <rch> %appdata%
#3937 [20:06] <fenster> ah, thanks rch
#3938 [20:07] <fenster> okay deleted the folder, gonna re-download minecraft and try to run as admin
#3939 [20:07] <Mikau> the house, I built it then died underground somewhere.
#3940 [20:07] <Mikau> the newly spawned character just feels like an intruder.
#3941 [20:07] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, unique, I've not felt that way before
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#3943 [20:08] <Mikau> There's always that deep feeling in the background of: this is not the real owner of this world, this is an empty shell of a man. :(
#3944 [20:09] <NinjaKirby> Damn, I kinda feel the inverse, ever since I lost my one and only map I used for months, I have never settled on any other world.
#3945 [20:09] <NinjaKirby> I feel the original person, per say, but every world is fake/foreign.
#3946 [20:09] <fenster> alright, tried firewall off and as admin, no luck
#3947 [20:10] <NinjaKirby> I'll zip up my .minecraft
#3948 [20:10] <fenster> "failed to download windows_natives.jar.lzma
#3949 [20:10] <fenster> thanks
#3950 [20:11] <Mikau> Don't do it!
#3951 [20:11] <NinjaKirby> Or I won't do it?
#3952 [20:11] <Mikau> You'll steal his soul!
#3953 [20:11] <Mikau> erm world!
#3954 [20:12] <fenster> yeah dont put past login
#3955 [20:12] <fenster> or saves in
#3956 [20:12] <NinjaKirby> lol, I'm being very warey, only zipping "Bin" and "Resources"
#3957 [20:12] <Mikau> or your soul
#3958 [20:12] <fenster> If you keep the last login thin it'll give me your password and stuff
#3959 [20:12] <fenster> btw, dont fall into that
#3960 [20:12] <Mikau> Actually the past login won't help him steal your account
#3961 [20:12] <Mikau> :P
#3962 [20:12] <fenster> oh, I thought thats what hold the password?
#3963 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3964 [20:13] <fenster> okay, well, whatever does, keep that out, im not tryin to be devious here :P
#3965 [20:13] <NinjaKirby> Jesus christ, since when did it become 40Mb
#3966 [20:13] <Mikau> Can't save passwords, only account names
#3967 [20:13] <Mikau> and it's encrypted
#3968 [20:13] <Mikau> ;)
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#3970 [20:14] <NinjaKirby> 500kbps upload, this is yankin' my chain
#3971 [20:15] <fenster> im sorry :/
#3972 [20:15] <fenster> Ninja, do you hve a steam account or IM or sommat?
#3973 [20:15] <NinjaKirby> lol, it's not a problem, but if that's saying KiloBYTES per second, then I suddenly recieved a service upgrade
#3974 [20:15] <NinjaKirby> Why do you ask?
#3975 [20:16] <fenster> So I can tell you if it works
#3976 [20:17] <NinjaKirby> You are giraffing XD
#3977 [20:17] <fenster> wut
#3978 [20:17] <NinjaKirby> There's nothing more I can do if this fails, so I'll just pass ya the link
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#3981 [20:17] <fenster> alright sounds good
#3982 [20:18] <NinjaKirby> I paid for a Mediafire account a while ago, putting it to the test for the first time, hopefully the download shouldn't be knarley for ya
#3983 [20:19] <NinjaKirby> Also, I think my mind glorified the Deadmau5 album, or I just need to give it time to understand
#3984 [20:20] <NinjaKirby> Not usually a genre I invest in
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#3986 [20:25] <Mikau> It's crap, the only reason you're thinking it's good is because Notch is into it and you're trying to give yourself something in common with him for reasons beyond you.
#3987 [20:25] <Boreeas> Hey, I have multiple questions: Can I run my own Beta Server? Does it cost anything? Where do I get the server software?
#3988 [20:25] <Mikau> You can, it's free, and it's on the website.
#3989 [20:25] <Mikau> However, playing Minecraft Beta is not free, so if you don't have an account, running your own server might be a little silly.
#3990 [20:26] <Boreeas> Yeah, I have a Beta Account. I just want to run a private server for me and my friends, so I'm looking for the software atm.ö At the website, you say? Lemme check...
#3991 [20:27] <LordFear> http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3992 [20:28] <LordFear> Look at the bottom of that page.
#3993 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> Mikau, it's not because Notch is into it, it's because Deadmau5 is into Minecraft XD Seems different to me.
#3994 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> And it does sound good to my ears, just not as glorious as I thought it up to be
#3995 [20:29] <Boreeas> Thanks for the link
#3996 [20:32] <Boreeas> Well, that was fast, at least for the begiining.
#3997 [20:33] <Boreeas> Where do I find my server? Is it just my personal ip?
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#4000 [20:41] <xaviergmail> kealper not here?
#4001 [20:41] <xaviergmail> o
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#4003 [20:42] <cantbuyminecraft> whos kealper?
#4004 [20:42] <xaviergmail> Kealper[AFK]:
#4005 [20:42] <xaviergmail> ^
#4006 [20:42] <xaviergmail> i was looking for a shorter name
#4007 [20:42] <xaviergmail> notch isnt here?
#4008 [20:42] <xaviergmail> "cantbuyminecraft: whos notch?"
#4009 [20:42] <cantbuyminecraft> ?
#4010 [20:43] <xaviergmail> cantbuyminecraft: ask GreyVulpine aboiut your thing
#4011 [20:43] <cantbuyminecraft> why?
#4012 [20:43] <xaviergmail> cause
#4013 [20:43] <xaviergmail> he knows how to solve it
#4014 [20:43] <xaviergmail> he solves every single problems
#4015 [20:44] <xaviergmail> and he's so pro that he created an exact replica of runescape, entirely in PHP
#4016 [20:45] <xaviergmail> 1 php script for very single pixel!
#4017 [20:45] <cantbuyminecraft> hes afk
#4018 [20:45] <cantbuyminecraft> i think
#4019 [20:45] <xaviergmail> GreyVulpine: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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#4021 [20:45] <cantbuyminecraft> xavier
#4022 [20:45] <cantbuyminecraft> what happend?
#4023 [20:46] <Mikau> Why does the minecraft forum always break whenever I'm using it?
#4024 [20:47] <cantbuyminecraft> greyvulpine:can you help me?
#4025 [20:47] <cantbuyminecraft> GreyVulpine:can you help me?
#4026 [20:48] <xaviergmail> Mikau, contry?
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#4028 [20:48] <xaviergmail> Mikau: what contry do you live in?
#4029 [20:49] <fireblade624> does anybody know what to do if you server keeps kicking people out because it says it is outdated?
#4030 [20:49] <fireblade624> US
#4031 [20:49] <fireblade624> USA lol
#4032 [20:49] <xaviergmail> not u
#4033 [20:49] <fireblade624> oh lol k
#4034 [20:50] <Mikau> all of them
#4035 [20:50] <xaviergmail> no
#4036 [20:50] <xaviergmail> I need the real location
#4037 [20:50] <fireblade624> anybody?
#4038 [20:50] <xaviergmail> because some countries are blocked
#4039 [20:50] <xales> yes
#4040 [20:50] <xales> you update your server
#4041 [20:50] <xales> :P
#4042 [20:51] <fireblade624> it wont update tho :L
#4043 [20:51] <fireblade624> i tried re downloading it
#4044 [20:51] <xales> you have to manually download it
#4045 [20:51] <xales> !server
#4046 [20:51] <xales> use that link
#4047 [20:51] <fireblade624> k thx :D
#4048 [20:51] <xales> cantbuyminecraft: where do you get the error
#4049 [20:51] <xales> with a reference ID
#4050 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Probably online at minecraft.net
#4051 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Some cards won't work
#4052 [20:52] <fireblade624> in the MC client, nto the server client
#4053 [20:52] <fireblade624> not*
#4054 [20:52] <cantbuyminecraft> when i buy
#4055 [20:52] <cantbuyminecraft> direct
#4056 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to talk to either your card issuer, or paypal/whatever notch uses
#4057 [20:53] <cantbuyminecraft> my cards fine
#4058 [20:53] <xales> the direct is some payment processor
#4059 [20:53] <fireblade624> ok this works thx :)
#4060 [20:53] <cantbuyminecraft> i just bought it
#4061 [20:53] <xales> cantbuyminecraft: is it a prepaid card?
#4062 [20:53] <xales> that is why
#4063 [20:53] <cantbuyminecraft> ye
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#4066 [20:53] <xales> prepaid cards don't work in other countries
#4067 [20:53] <cantbuyminecraft> w8
#4068 [20:53] * GreyVulpine nods
#4068 [20:53] <cantbuyminecraft> can i put it on paypal?
#4069 [20:53] <xales> no
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#4071 [20:53] <xales> same issue
#4072 [20:53] <xales> international purchase
#4073 [20:53] <xales> not allowed
#4074 [20:54] <cantbuyminecraft> its a visa
#4075 [20:54] <cantbuyminecraft> i mean
#4076 [20:54] <cantbuyminecraft> mastercard
#4077 [20:54] <xales> doesnt matter
#4078 [20:54] <xales> look at the small print on the back
#4079 [20:54] <xales> "Valid in the U.S. Only"
#4080 [20:54] <cantbuyminecraft> ..........
#4081 [20:54] <cantbuyminecraft> w8
#4082 [20:54] <cantbuyminecraft> if i transfer the money onto paypal
#4083 [20:55] <cantbuyminecraft> would it work?
#4084 [20:55] <xales> you cant transfer money from a card
#4085 [20:55] <xales> only from a bank account
#4086 [20:55] <cantbuyminecraft> i think i can from mine w8888
#4087 [20:55] <Boreeas> Can I open my server to people in my local network without disabling NAT?
#4088 [20:56] <xales> you don't need to disable NAT
#4089 [20:56] <Sami345> Boreeas, sure
#4090 [20:56] <xales> to open it to anyone
#4091 [20:58] <Boreeas> Hmm. Can anyone explain me how to use my server. I got the java console running, but I need the IP adress, right? Internal or external IP?
#4092 [20:58] <cantbuyminecraft> xales
#4093 [20:58] <xales> what
#4094 [20:58] <cantbuyminecraft> thanks
#4095 [20:58] <xales> Boreeas: who wants to access it
#4096 [20:58] <xales> are they on your LAN?
#4097 [20:58] <xales> sure
#4098 [20:58] <Boreeas> People in the local network here.
#4099 [20:58] <Boreeas> Me and my brother mainly
#4100 [20:58] <xales> internal IP
#4101 [20:59] <xales> something along the lines of 192.168.*
#4102 [20:59] <xales> usually
#4103 [20:59] <Boreeas> 192.168.0.1? Isn't that the own ip for everyone?
#4104 [20:59] <xales> no
#4105 [20:59] <xales> thats the address of (most likely) your router
#4106 [21:00] <xales> start->all programs->accessories->command prompt
#4107 [21:00] <xales> type ipconfig
#4108 [21:00] <xales> that will tell you your ip address
#4109 [21:00] <Boreeas> thanks
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#4111 [21:02] <Boreeas> yep, works. very laggy, thoug, :P
#4112 [21:02] <Boreeas> Thanks
#4113 [21:02] <cantbuyminecraft> xales
#4114 [21:03] <xales> what
#4115 [21:04] <xales> Kealper
#4116 [21:04] <xales> come baaaack
#4117 [21:04] <xales> :(
#4118 [21:05] <cantbuyminecraft> xales
#4119 [21:05] <xales> ...
#4120 [21:05] <xales> what
#4121 [21:05] <cantbuyminecraft> whats the shout thing u have?
#4122 [21:05] <xales> what are you talking about?
#4123 [21:05] <cantbuyminecraft> the speaker
#4124 [21:05] <cantbuyminecraft> near your name
#4125 [21:05] <xales> umm
#4126 [21:05] <xales> it means im an official helper
#4127 [21:05] <xales> :P
#4128 [21:06] <cantbuyminecraft> OH :O
#4129 [21:06] <cantbuyminecraft> im disipointed.....
#4130 [21:06] <cantbuyminecraft> dissipointed
#4131 [21:06] <xales> *disappointed
#4132 [21:06] <cantbuyminecraft> lol w/e....
#4133 [21:06] <cantbuyminecraft> whats 2 do.....
#4134 [21:06] <xales> say /part
#4135 [21:06] <cantbuyminecraft> xales u got the game?
#4136 [21:07] <xales> yes I do. and no, you may not use my account
#4137 [21:07] <cantbuyminecraft> i wasnt asking
#4138 [21:07] <xales> :P
#4139 [21:07] <cantbuyminecraft> i was gonna ask if its worth the money
#4140 [21:07] <xales> indeed
#4141 [21:07] <cantbuyminecraft> cuz atm i feel like i would be bored
#4142 [21:07] <xales> especially because there is a discount
#4143 [21:07] <cantbuyminecraft> and like lonely cuz u cant play with people
#4144 [21:07] <cantbuyminecraft> like its just u
#4145 [21:07] <xales> you can actually
#4146 [21:08] <xales> multiplayer
#4147 [21:08] <xales> :P
#4148 [21:08] <cantbuyminecraft> same everything?
#4149 [21:08] <cantbuyminecraft> just like with people?
#4150 [21:08] <xales> yes
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#4155 [21:45] <Buzzkill> hi
#4156 [21:45] <xales> hello
#4157 [21:46] <Buzzkill> can someone help me update my server? it keeps kicking people because it says it is out dated, but i cant find anything to help D:
#4158 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the server, replace
#4159 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> !server
#4160 [21:46] <xales> grey
#4161 [21:46] <Buzzkill> thx
#4162 [21:46] <xales> i was typing a long response
#4163 [21:46] <xales> :(
#4164 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#4165 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Long responses are overrated
#4166 [21:46] <xales> aparrantly
#4167 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> You can have the next few dozen.
#4168 [21:47] <xales> no thanks
#4169 [21:47] <xales> :P
#4170 [21:48] <xales> your the op, remember? your senior, your job :P
#4171 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, I only got the job because I stuck around after being helped..
#4172 [21:48] <xales> lol
#4173 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> That was back in.. sept?
#4174 [21:48] <xales> what did you come here wanting help for?
#4175 [21:48] <Buzzkill> well, it downloaded the stuff, but it wont go off of my desktop
#4176 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Wiki was still full of classic stuff, not a whole lot on alpha
#4177 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> So I was confused when starting out
#4178 [21:49] <xales> Buzzkill: what do you mean it won't go off of your desktop
#4179 [21:49] <xales> you have to replace the server with the new one
#4180 [21:50] <Buzzkill> as soon as i opened, it downloaded something, and it came with all the stuff, but some of it wont go to the folder i am trying to put it in :(
#4181 [21:50] <xales> what happens when you try to put it there
#4182 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> You need to put the server in its own folder, that way you'll generate files inside a self contained directory
#4183 [21:51] <Buzzkill> right
#4184 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Okay, so what's the problem?
#4185 [21:51] <Buzzkill> but it says cannot move server.txt or server.log.Ick
#4186 [21:51] <Buzzkill> or lck or whatever
#4187 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Do you have the server running right now?
#4188 [21:52] <Buzzkill> yea but the other stuff got moved
#4189 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> You need to close it.
#4190 [21:52] <Buzzkill> ok lol it works now XD
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#4193 [21:53] <esper_wscodc> Could someone help me out with getting texture packs to work on windows 7?
#4194 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> What pack?
#4195 [21:54] <esper_wscodc> ScribbleCraft
#4196 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me a link?
#4197 [21:54] <esper_wscodc> Yea lemme find it
#4198 [21:55] <esper_wscodc> http://kristopherbel.com/?p=46
#4199 [21:55] <esper_wscodc> That should be the download site
#4200 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Ah, HD pack
#4201 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Did you get the "xau’s MCPatcher"?
#4202 [21:56] <esper_wscodc> I'll double check quick
#4203 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Basically, for instructions -> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=99223&sid=aab70844fd10265e04031f4576cd017a&start=30#p1508968
#4204 [21:58] <esper_wscodc> Thanks i think i was trying to download the .zip
#4205 [21:58] <esper_wscodc> Thanks for the help
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#4208 [22:09] <cometen> good evening
#4209 [22:09] <xales> hello
#4210 [22:09] <cometen> or morning
#4211 [22:09] <xales> evening
#4212 [22:09] <xales> 10pm
#4213 [22:09] <xales> :)
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#4215 [22:10] <cometen> here its 4.10 am
#4216 [22:10] <xales> haha, up early?
#4217 [22:10] <xales> :\
#4218 [22:10] <xales> i went to sleep at that time last night
#4219 [22:10] <xales> :(
#4220 [22:10] <cometen> any knows where to download modloader
#4221 [22:11] <cometen> didnt sleep yet
#4222 [22:11] <Xaviergmail> !topic
#4223 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=47148
#4224 [22:11] <Xaviergmail> O
#4225 [22:11] <xales> /topic
#4226 [22:11] <xales> -_-
#4227 [22:11] <Xaviergmail> :)
#4228 [22:12] <Xaviergmail> Party fi
#4229 [22:13] <Xaviergmail> Kealpy
#4230 [22:13] <xales> Kealper[AFK]:
#4231 [22:13] <xales> Kealper[AFK]:
#4232 [22:13] <xales> O_o
#4233 [22:13] <Xaviergmail> IMO.
#4234 [22:13] <Xaviergmail> Oop
#4235 [22:14] <xales> english
#4236 [22:14] <Xaviergmail> I'm on my iPod touch
#4237 [22:14] <xales> please
#4238 [22:14] <xales> so?
#4239 [22:14] <Xaviergmail> Can't use tab
#4240 [22:14] * xales suggests adopting the #minecraft rules to GreyVulpine
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#4241 [22:14] <xales> what does tab have anything to do with it
#4242 [22:14] <xales> ._.
#4243 [22:15] <Xaviergmail> And the ppl r listed by join time
#4244 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> ?
#4245 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Adopting what rules?
#4246 [22:15] <xales> http://minecraft.net/ircrules.jsp
#4247 [22:15] <Xaviergmail> Orly
#4248 [22:16] <Xaviergmail> Suck ppl for op
#4249 [22:16] <Xaviergmail> That's rule 1
#4250 [22:16] <xales> ._.
#4251 [22:16] * GreyVulpine sighs
#4251 [22:16] <xales> stop
#4252 [22:16] <Xaviergmail> Orky
#4253 [22:17] <Xaviergmail> :(
#4254 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Look, even before I got op on here, I was helping people with custom mods and crap. I still personally don't really care if people stop by and ask.
#4255 [22:17] <xales> what?
#4256 [22:18] <xales> I mean mostly the rules that are common-sense otherwise
#4257 [22:18] <Xaviergmail> Lol
#4258 [22:18] <xales> in otherwords, everything but #1
#4259 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Honestly, I hate the rules that are there to force people to only talk about vanilla minecraft. One of the reasons why I stopped really participating in #minecraft
#4260 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> As for the rest, that's just common sense.
#4261 [22:19] <xales> indeed; not everyone has it
#4262 [22:19] <xales> may be good to outline them regardless
#4263 [22:19] <xales> also, something about us being community volunteers in the topic would be nice, some people think we are official support :\
#4264 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Sure. But spam, or impersonate a person of power, or insult others, I'll kick/ban them myself.
#4265 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Heh, the /topic is already rather.... bloated
#4266 [22:20] <xales> always is :/
#4267 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Well, people hop on here usually to just get a straight answer. If they really think we're paid to do this stuff, or are on Notch's staff... let me know.
#4268 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> I guess I can edit the "The Official MineCraft help channel! For all your questions about the core-game made by Notch!" part if it's a real problem.
#4269 [22:22] <xales> actually, only as of today
#4270 [22:22] <xales> at least 3 people
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#4272 [22:22] <xales> one even asked "do you get paid enough to do this"
#4273 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I did see that last one.. meh
#4274 [22:22] <xales> we should ask notch to empty some of the money vault into our pocketsies O_o
#4275 [22:23] <xales> or just twitter that to him and see what he responds with (if anything)
#4276 [22:23] <xales> probably amuse him
#4277 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Pfft. The day I get paid for this, is the day I call it. Getting paid means "work".
#4278 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> I kinda like doing this for fun.
#4279 [22:24] <xales> I kinda just want to ask him to see what he says
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#4282 [22:29] <BurnVision> hey all
#4283 [22:29] <BurnVision> my mc server gave me a wierd warning "[WARNING] Time ran backwards! Did the system time change?"
#4284 [22:30] <BurnVision> can any one help
#4285 [22:30] <xales> uhh
#4286 [22:30] <xales> is that exactly what it says?
#4287 [22:30] <BurnVision> yes
#4288 [22:30] <xales> there is a similar error that is normal
#4289 [22:30] <xales> I guess just ignore it unless its a problem
#4290 [22:30] <BurnVision> or ill get this one
#4291 [22:30] <BurnVision> [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#4292 [22:30] <xales> thats normal
#4293 [22:31] <BurnVision> oh okay
#4294 [22:31] <BurnVision> just freaked me out
#4295 [22:31] <BurnVision> what makes the server do that?
#4296 [22:31] <xales> a b ug
#4297 [22:31] <xales> bug*
#4298 [22:31] <BurnVision> weird
#4299 [22:32] <xales> its not supposed to say that, it is supposed to be an indicator that the system doesnt have enough resources to run the server
#4300 [22:32] <xales> but it doesnt work
#4301 [22:32] <BurnVision> really i got 8 gigs of ram and a quad core with 750gig hd
#4302 [22:32] <xales> I know
#4303 [22:32] <xales> i said it doesnt work
#4304 [22:33] <xales> it says that for everyone, even with more powerful systems with that
#4305 [22:33] <xales> I tested it on a hexacore system with 32 gb of ram, kinda as a joke
#4306 [22:33] <xales> it didn't work
#4307 [22:33] <xales> so
#4308 [22:33] <BurnVision> huh, any idea how to make the lag go away?
#4309 [22:33] <xales> lag
#4310 [22:33] <xales> hold f3
#4311 [22:34] <xales> what does it show for fps
#4312 [22:34] <BurnVision> not sure
#4313 [22:34] <xales> there should be a number that says FPS in the top right
#4314 [22:34] <BurnVision> 155 fps
#4315 [22:34] <xales> are you using the .exe?
#4316 [22:34] <xales> for the serveer
#4317 [22:34] <BurnVision> yeah
#4318 [22:35] <xales> close the server
#4319 [22:35] <xales> but leave minecraft open
#4320 [22:35] <BurnVision> ok
#4321 [22:35] <xales> then open task manager
#4322 [22:35] <xales> and there should be something like
#4323 [22:35] <BurnVision> k
#4324 [22:35] <xales> Physical memory: (something)k ((something)k free)
#4325 [22:36] <BurnVision> ok
#4326 [22:37] <BurnVision> processes:59 cpu usage 10% physical memory 31%
#4327 [22:38] <xales> hmm
#4328 [22:38] <xales> are you running any mods?
#4329 [22:38] <BurnVision> nope
#4330 [22:38] <xales> and you are running the server, the .exe one
#4331 [22:39] <BurnVision> yup
#4332 [22:39] <xales> can you pastebin the contents of the server.properties
#4333 [22:39] <xales> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com
#4334 [22:40] <BurnVision> #Minecraft server properties #Fri Dec 24 23:00:04 EST 2010 level-name=world hellworld=false spawn-monsters=false online-mode=true spawn-animals=true max-players=20 server-ip= pvp=true server-port=25565
#4335 [22:40] <xales> pastebin means put it on pastebin.com
#4336 [22:40] <xales> not paste it in here :\
#4337 [22:40] <xales> i cant read that
#4338 [22:40] <xales> please pastebin it :/
#4339 [22:41] <BurnVision> lol sorry dono how to do that
#4340 [22:41] <xales> pastebin.com
#4341 [22:41] <xales> paste it into the box
#4342 [22:41] <xales> click submit
#4343 [22:41] <xales> copy the new url
#4344 [22:41] <xales> paste that here
#4345 [22:41] <BurnVision> ah
#4346 [22:42] <BurnVision> http://pastebin.com/s294dgrc
#4347 [22:42] <BurnVision> there we go
#4348 [22:43] <xales> try redownloading the server
#4349 [22:43] <BurnVision> wont i loose my world that i have?
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#4351 [22:44] <xales> no
#4352 [22:44] <BurnVision> oh just downloading the new .exe?
#4353 [22:44] <xales> yes
#4354 [22:44] <BurnVision> ok hold on
#4355 [22:45] <Caniac> about the mod message... are gift codes affected today as well? my friend can't seem to use the gift code I bought him
#4356 [22:45] <xales> make sure to put it in the box as
#4357 [22:45] <xales> "****-****-****-****"
#4358 [22:45] <xales> include the -s
#4359 [22:46] <Caniac> this one's only 12 digits long though
#4360 [22:46] <xales> sorry, I added an extra one
#4361 [22:46] <BurnVision> thats a bit better
#4362 [22:46] <xales> most codes for games are 4x4 :\
#4363 [22:46] <xales> minecraft isn't aparrantly
#4364 [22:47] <Caniac> yeah I dunno what's wrong
#4365 [22:47] <Caniac> he copy-pasted it and added the hyphens
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#4367 [22:47] <BurnVision> hey whats the best admin addon for servers/>
#4368 [22:47] <BurnVision> ?*
#4369 [22:48] <xales> umm
#4370 [22:48] <xales> probably hey0's hmod
#4371 [22:48] <xales> try #hey0
#4372 [22:48] <BurnVision> ok
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#4376 [23:09] <xales> kealper
#4377 [23:09] <xales> Kealper[AFK]:
#4378 [23:09] <xales> -_-
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#4381 [23:29] <tank8465> I need some help with getting minecraft to run in linux: what package from the ubuntu repositories is required to get java running for minecraft?
#4382 [23:29] <xales> umm
#4383 [23:30] <xales> sun-java6-jre
#4384 [23:30] <tank8465> ty
#4385 [23:30] <xales> you need to enable multiverse and universe repositores however
#4386 [23:30] <tank8465> lol I know, im asking because I'm actually making a custom distro
#4387 [23:31] <tank8465> based off ubuntu-minimum
#4388 [23:31] <xales> ah
#4389 [23:31] <xales> cool
#4390 [23:31] <luckz> for client use?
#4391 [23:31] <tank8465> lucks: yes
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#4393 [23:33] <Hathadar> I am trying to understand base36 conversion referenced at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Alpha_Level_Format#World_folder_structure If I am converting to Base36, why are they performing modulus with 64 instead of 36?
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#4395 [23:34] <xales> I couldn't tell you, sorry :\
#4396 [23:34] <mizaki> ubuntu wont run minecraft now that i installed a GPU...
#4397 [23:34] <xales> try asking in #hey0
#4398 [23:34] <xales> mizaki: need drivers for it
#4399 [23:34] <mizaki> hmmm is there drivers for ubuntu as well? or the ones that came on the disk run cross platforms from windows to ubuntu
#4400 [23:35] <CruelNoise> my fingers aren't working
#4401 [23:35] <xales> make sure you have the up-to-date drivers
#4402 [23:35] <xales> if they came on a disk they will not be up to date
#4403 [23:35] <mizaki> tl;dr insert the driver disk that came with the GPU?
#4404 [23:36] <tank8465> mizaki, use sudo jockey-gtk if you're in ubuntu
#4405 [23:36] <mizaki> 10 4
#4406 [23:36] <tank8465> yeah, go into a terminal and type sudo jockey-gtk
#4407 [23:36] <mizaki> searchiing for available drivers...
#4408 [23:37] <mizaki> what is gtk stand for?
#4409 [23:37] <mizaki> let me rephrase...where can i learn all the commands for ubuntu?
#4410 [23:37] <mizaki> ubuntu for dummies?
#4411 [23:37] <Mikau> The internet, and experience.
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#4413 [23:38] <mizaki> i took unix/linus in college its been too long though
#4414 [23:38] <tank8465> jockey-gtk is a program
#4415 [23:38] <Mikau> learning to be fluent in linux command line isn't something you can just really do easily
#4416 [23:38] <Hathadar> Why am I unable to chat in #hey0 ?
#4417 [23:38] <mizaki> i remember seeing some books on linux in border.. ill look into it
#4418 [23:38] <tank8465> Hathadar: you touch yourself at night
#4419 [23:38] <xales> Hathadar: register with nickserv
#4420 [23:38] <Mikau> It takes a lot of practice and time.
#4421 [23:38] <xales> /msg nickserv help register
#4422 [23:38] <mizaki> true...any program sytax isn't easy to learn
#4423 [23:38] <Hathadar> thx
#4424 [23:38] <tank8465> mizaki, i started using linux last april
#4425 [23:38] <xales> mizaki: you can't just learn every command, there are literally thousands that come with it and millions more
#4426 [23:39] <mizaki> holy shizzle
#4427 [23:39] <tank8465> stay with it, its so worth it.
#4428 [23:39] <mizaki> yeah, will do.
#4429 [23:40] <tank8465> mizaki: the fun though occurs when you start running windows games in ubuntu
#4430 [23:42] <mizaki> hmmm... i tried that already... used that program that lets you run windows inside of ubuntu...too much... i just partitioned windows for itunes/zune/games/ other bloatware ha
#4431 [23:42] <xales> wine works better
#4432 [23:42] <xales> you dont need to run windows
#4433 [23:42] <xales> >.>
#4434 [23:42] <mizaki> hmmm.
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#4436 [23:43] <mizaki> i spend every minute i can on here trying to learn more. The GF is what takes most my time.
#4437 [23:43] <mizaki> u know how it is
#4438 [23:43] <Guilemouse> Hi guys, how exactly could I get the external IP of my CentOS VPS?
#4439 [23:44] <xales> your VPS provider should have given it to you
#4440 [23:44] <xales> or just run "ifconfig"
#4441 [23:44] <xales> it will be in there
#4442 [23:44] <Guilemouse> Yeah it has, but everytime I try to connect to it it says connection timed out
#4443 [23:44] <Guilemouse> ipconfig?
#4444 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> ifconfig
#4445 [23:44] <Guilemouse> command not found
#4446 [23:45] <Guilemouse> HEY Greyvulpine! welcome back
#4447 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> ifconfig
#4448 [23:45] <xales> err
#4449 [23:45] <xales> right
#4450 [23:45] <Guilemouse> oh shit, my windows eyes caught the letter off
#4451 [23:45] <mizaki> greyvulpine ha ehat up
#4452 [23:45] <mizaki> what
#4453 [23:45] <mizaki> drunk
#4454 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Yo
#4455 [23:45] <xales> I'm used to helping people who are using windows -.-
#4456 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Uh-oh
#4457 [23:45] <mizaki> you seen cyborgdragon anymore? its been a while?
#4458 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#4459 [23:46] <mizaki> wtf he was a top irc minecraft user
#4460 [23:46] <CruelNoise> yeah
#4461 [23:46] <mizaki> weird
#4462 [23:46] <CruelNoise> Cyborg was gone for a while because his PC was busted
#4463 [23:46] <mizaki> ah, i c
#4464 [23:46] <CruelNoise> He came back on once in a while on his DS
#4465 [23:47] <CruelNoise> I don't know what his current situation is, though he is in a private channel right now...
#4466 [23:47] <CruelNoise> I'll se if he's there
#4467 [23:48] <Guilemouse> =D I love you guys. Server's up and running now
#4468 [23:49] <CruelNoise> they love you too
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#4470 [23:50] <CruelNoise> else they wouldn't help you =3
#4471 [23:50] <xales> CruelNoise: and you wonder why people know about that channel
#4472 [23:50] <CruelNoise> uhm
#4473 [23:50] <CruelNoise> because you say stuff like that?
#4474 [23:50] <CruelNoise> Cyborg's in a different private channel
#4475 [23:51] <Mikau> Love is a pretty strong word there, buddy.
#4476 [23:51] <xales> regardless, Cruel
#4477 [23:51] <xales> :P
#4478 [23:51] <CruelNoise> Hey
#4479 [23:51] <tank8465> xales: Package 'sun-java6-jre' has no installation candidate
#4480 [23:51] <tank8465> xales: hmm.
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#4482 [23:51] <CruelNoise> I think that people are too strict with their use of the word love
#4483 [23:51] <xales> you dont have
#4484 [23:51] <xales> the multiverse repo then
#4485 [23:52] <tank8465> xales, no do I have the gui tool to add it, whats the cli line?
#4486 [23:52] <tank8465> nor*
#4487 [23:52] <Guilemouse> Mental love, no physical, maybe a deep hug.
#4488 [23:52] <xales> you need to edit a file
#4489 [23:52] <Guilemouse> or a bro fist bump
#4490 [23:52] <xales> /etc/apt/sources.list
#4491 [23:52] <tank8465> sources.list
#4492 [23:52] <tank8465> i know
#4493 [23:52] <tank8465> its open
#4494 [23:52] <xales> uncomment or add multiverse to the list
#4495 [23:52] <CruelNoise> I wish more people would give me hugs =(
#4496 [23:52] * xales gives CruelNoise a creeper hug
#4496 [23:52] <xales> sssSSSSS
#4497 [23:52] <xales> BOOM
#4498 [23:52] <CruelNoise> I went to this thing called "challenge day" for school
#4499 [23:53] <CruelNoise> according to it, they think that you need at least three hugs from three different people each day to be healthy
#4500 [23:53] <CruelNoise> five to be fit
#4501 [23:53] <CruelNoise> =(
#4502 [23:53] <xales> hahahahahahaha
#4503 [23:53] <xales> lolololol
#4504 [23:53] <xales> and they wonder why teen suicide is popular
#4505 [23:53] <xales> >.>
#4506 [23:54] <CruelNoise> xales: why?
#4507 [23:54] <xales> the schoolsa re promoting low self-esteem
#4508 [23:54] <xales> "i dont get 3 hugs from 3 different people a day. /wrists"
#4509 [23:54] <CruelNoise> No
#4510 [23:55] <CruelNoise> it was encouraging people to be more open with hugging
#4511 [23:55] <CruelNoise> and suddenlyt
#4512 [23:55] <CruelNoise> the next day at school
#4513 [23:55] <CruelNoise> orgy of hugs
#4514 [23:55] <CruelNoise> me all alone
#4515 [23:55] <xales> lol
#4516 [23:55] <CruelNoise> nerdy friend sits beside me
#4517 [23:55] <xales> thats good
#4518 [23:55] <CruelNoise> "hi
#4519 [23:55] <xales> no STDs
#4520 [23:55] <CruelNoise> "
#4521 [23:55] <CruelNoise> "hi"
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