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#2 [00:04] <tank8465> im a fucking beast
#3 [00:04] <tank8465> guys
#4 [00:04] <tank8465> i must inform you
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#11 [00:30] <braxton> Could someone help me test my server?
#12 [00:31] <xales> what aspect of it would you like tested
#13 [00:31] <braxton> The ability of people to log on.
#14 [00:31] <xales> what is the IP
#15 [00:31] <braxton> 72.69.200.153:54321
#16 [00:31] <braxton> Well, actually
#17 [00:31] <braxton> Gimme one minute, s'il vous plait.
#18 [00:33] <braxton> Okay, same Ip, just omit the port at the end.
#19 [00:33] <braxton> *IP
#20 [00:33] <xales> !check 72.69.200.153
#21 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> !check 72.69.200.153
#22 [00:33] <braxton> MEH
#23 [00:33] <xales> !check 72.69.200.153
#24 [00:33] <braxton> :c
#25 [00:34] <xales> i hads a space
#26 [00:34] <xales> wait a sec
#27 [00:34] <xales> haha
#28 [00:34] <xales> dumb bot
#29 [00:34] <feenyx> !check 81.167.158.144
#30 [00:34] <braxton> Man...
#31 [00:34] <braxton> WHY DOES MY ISP HATE ME!?
#32 [00:35] <xales> >.>
#33 [00:35] <braxton> This happens to me every time I try something...
#34 [00:35] <xales> ISPs are hostile
#35 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> !check greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#36 [00:35] <braxton> It just makes me so infuriated, ugh.
#37 [00:35] <Pistol> Yep
#38 [00:35] <braxton> Maybe it's my DMZ or perhaps my modem.
#39 [00:35] <braxton> I'll just have to investigate further.
#40 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> Can you log in locally?
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#42 [00:38] <xales> Kealper
#43 [00:38] <xales> the !check thing
#44 [00:38] <xales> put a delay
#45 [00:38] <xales> short delay
#46 [00:38] <xales> otherwise its abusable and might get you banned from stuff :P
#47 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> !check greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#48 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> !check greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#49 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> !check greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#50 [00:38] <Kealper> i've got to change the way it does it
#51 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> neat, it actually connects each time you !check
#52 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> That could be abused.
#53 [00:39] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#54 [00:39] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#55 [00:39] <xales> !check localhost
#56 [00:39] <xales> !check localhost
#57 [00:39] <xales> !check localhost
#58 [00:39] <xales> !check localhost
#59 [00:40] <Kealper> fixing now
#60 [00:40] <xales> lol
#61 [00:41] <braxton> xales, could you ping me?
#62 [00:41] <braxton> Ping 72.69.200.153 please.
#63 [00:41] <xales> err ping?
#64 [00:41] <xales> as in ICMP?
#65 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> pinging
#66 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> resolved
#67 [00:41] <braxton> So, you could reach me?
#68 [00:41] * Kealper icmp floods
#68 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#69 [00:41] <xales> your router will respond to ICMP most likely
#70 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, not mine
#71 [00:42] <xales> look in options?
#72 [00:42] <Kealper> default dd-wrt wont
#73 [00:42] <xales> >.>
#74 [00:42] <xales> I'm cool Kealper
#75 [00:42] <Kealper> i had to set mine to respond to them
#76 [00:42] <xales> im using an actiontec mr424we
#77 [00:42] <xales> wr*
#78 [00:42] <braxton> I just want people to be able to connect to my computer. But there's no way the universe will let me do that.
#79 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> Gah
#80 [00:42] <xales> because
#81 [00:42] <xales> I use fios
#82 [00:42] <xales> :P
#83 [00:42] <xales> braxton: are you port forwarding properly? >.>
#84 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> braxton - Walk us through your network config.
#85 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Your server ip is?
#86 [00:43] <Kealper> bah....you and your stupid 50/20 fiber lol
#87 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Internally.
#88 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#89 [00:45] <CruelNoise> Kealper, GreyVulpine, what's your opinion on the state of the OPs in #minecrafthelp?
#90 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#91 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> state of the OPs?
#92 [00:46] <CruelNoise> yes
#93 [00:46] <CruelNoise> Well
#94 [00:46] <Kealper> uhh...define?
#95 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> Well, I don't know about you, but I passed my Turing Test, and am listed as fully functioning and in optimal condition.
#96 [00:46] <CruelNoise> Well, I noticed that you two often seem to be on at the same times
#97 [00:47] <CruelNoise> what's going on the rest of the day?
#98 [00:47] <CruelNoise> just, the state of the channel, really
#99 [00:47] <genshou-afk> =_-
#100 [00:47] <genshou-afk> I was supposed to work from 12:30pm to 3pm
#101 [00:47] <Kealper> we're almost always on...lol
#102 [00:47] <CruelNoise> lol
#103 [00:47] <genshou-afk> it is now 10:45pm
#104 [00:47] <CruelNoise> genshou-afk: are you still working?
#105 [00:47] <genshou-afk> nope
#106 [00:48] <genshou-afk> but now I have to keep my friend company while he reinstalls Windows
#107 [00:48] <xales> CruelNoise: there are really never problems here
#108 [00:48] <genshou-afk> ...twice
#109 [00:48] <xales> I dont think ive ever seen a kick go down
#110 [00:48] * GreyVulpine coughs
#110 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> I did a kick/ban just last week
#111 [00:48] <Kealper> there have been times, but they have been rare
#112 [00:48] <genshou-afk> kickbans are fun!
#113 [00:48] * genshou-afk squeaks
#113 [00:48] <Kealper> i have yet to slam the banhammer on someone though
#114 [00:48] <genshou-afk> The only thing more fun than a kickban is a gline
#115 [00:48] * GreyVulpine nodnods
#115 [00:49] <Kealper> xD
#116 [00:49] <CruelNoise> ooh
#117 [00:49] <Kealper> kills are pretty fun, and not perminant
#118 [00:49] <CruelNoise> gline!
#119 [00:49] <genshou-afk> I got offered oper status once because the network owner thought I was on at nights xD
#120 [00:49] <xales> well then
#121 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> I never get tired of my /os akill add command in my other network.
#122 [00:49] <xales> I wasn't around at that time
#123 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> And I've been an oper there for close to 9 years
#124 [00:49] <xales> lol grey
#125 [00:49] <genshou-afk> I told him I'd be happy to add to the ridiculous overpopulation during daytime hours ;>
#126 [00:49] <Kealper> lol
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#128 [00:51] <genshou-afk> ...Yeah, so I was totally gonna start construction of my sky castle today. But instead I worked all day and am now going into another city to watch someone install Windows ;<
#129 [00:52] <Mushuukyou> I found a vein that takes awhile to destroy and it gave me nothing.. is it diamond?
#130 [00:52] <Mushuukyou> I need an obsidian pick huh
#131 [00:52] <Kealper> uhh....
#132 [00:52] <Kealper> what's it look like?
#133 [00:52] <Mushuukyou> well I'm using a new pak
#134 [00:52] <Kealper> oh lol
#135 [00:52] <Mushuukyou> so not sure :P
#136 [00:53] <xales> obsidian picks dont exist
#137 [00:53] <xales> you have diamond picks
#138 [00:53] <xales> :)
#139 [00:53] <Kealper> i hate that, when you switch to a new texture pack and wtf over what is what
#140 [00:53] <Mushuukyou> i mean diamond yea
#141 [00:53] <Mushuukyou> yea sorry :P
#142 [00:53] <genshou-afk> You need a stone pick to mine iron ore
#143 [00:53] <xales> are you using a texture pack?
#144 [00:53] <Mushuukyou> ok so it's an obsidian thing
#145 [00:53] <Mushuukyou> yea
#146 [00:53] <xales> ._.
#147 [00:53] <genshou-afk> You need an iron or diamond pick to mine diamond, and I don't think you get much redstone without iron or diamond either.
#148 [00:53] <Mushuukyou> it looks greenish yellow
#149 [00:53] <xales> no redstone without iron
#150 [00:54] <genshou-afk> I found like a stack's worth of redstone and 11 blocks of diamond before I got enough iron to make a pick ;<
#151 [00:54] <xales> lol
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#153 [00:55] * genshou-afk relurkifies
#153 [00:55] <Mushuukyou> so if you use an iron pick on a redstone, you'll get nothing?
#154 [00:55] <xales> no
#155 [00:55] <xales> you need iron or better
#156 [00:55] <xales> you need diamond to get obsidian
#157 [00:55] <xales> http://minecraftwiki.net
#158 [00:55] <xales> all the info is on there
#159 [00:57] * Kealper adds GreyVulpine into AuBot's owner list
#159 [00:57] <Kealper> !rehash
#160 [00:57] <xales> aww
#161 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#162 [00:57] <xales> I cant be an owner
#163 [00:57] <xales> /cry
#164 [00:57] * GreyVulpine stabs AuBot with xalesbot
#164 [00:57] <xales> hahahahaa
#165 [00:58] <xales> pwned dumbbot
#166 [00:58] <Kealper> lol
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#168 [00:58] <UncleBill> hey guis
#169 [00:58] <UncleBill> what flavor of linux would be sufficient to run a server
#170 [00:58] <Kealper> alright so..typing !die shuts down the bot, just incase it does something flunky while i'm not here
#171 [00:59] <xales> !die
#172 [00:59] <xales> UncleBill: any
#173 [00:59] <xales> not centos
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#175 [00:59] <xales> any other really
#176 [00:59] <Kealper> oh god not centos....
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#178 [00:59] <xales> as long as it is the server version
#179 [00:59] <braxton> !check 72.69.77.27
#180 [00:59] <xales> for example, do not use ubuntu desktop on the server
#181 [00:59] <UncleBill> cool
#182 [00:59] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#183 [01:00] <Kealper> !check localhost
#184 [01:00] <Kealper> !check localhost
#185 [01:00] <Kealper> ok fixed
#186 [01:00] <Kealper> i also changed the thing with it unable to connect
#187 [01:01] <xales> !check afjsuifhsuihff
#188 [01:01] <xales> lulz
#189 [01:01] <xales> !check darksigns.net
#190 [01:02] <xales> pownd
#191 [01:02] <xales> nope
#192 [01:02] <Kealper> actually i should make it so it times out sooner
#193 [01:02] <xales> indeed
#194 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> !check greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#195 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> !check greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#196 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> !check greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#197 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> !check greyvulpine.dyndns.org
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#200 [01:08] <phantom77> hey everyone, my friend and i are trying to set up a private server, and I can get the server launched and everything on my Mac, but he cannot connect and I know I have the port open.. any ideas
#201 [01:08] <Mushuukyou> what happens when he tries to connect
#202 [01:09] <Mushuukyou> is he on your network
#203 [01:09] <phantom77> times out, and no he isnt
#204 [01:09] <Mushuukyou> ok you said you know you have the port open - does he?
#205 [01:09] <phantom77> yes we both do
#206 [01:09] <Mushuukyou> can he ping your server
#207 [01:10] <phantom77> no
#208 [01:11] <Kealper> what ip is he using to connect to your server?
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#210 [01:11] <phantom77> my real ip that i got from whatsmyip.net
#211 [01:12] <Kealper> then you did not correctly set up the port forward
#212 [01:12] <Mushuukyou> could be
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#214 [01:12] <Mikau> Kealper!
#215 [01:12] <phantom77> lemme double check
#216 [01:12] <Mikau> Do a backflip!
#217 [01:12] <ANderson2230> hello all
#218 [01:12] * Kealper backflips
#218 [01:12] <UncleBill> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU]
#219 [01:13] <UncleBill> http://woot.com/
#220 [01:13] * Mikau gives Kealper a nichel.
#220 [01:13] <Mikau> Again again!
#221 [01:13] * Kealper backflips
#221 [01:13] * Mikau takes back his nichel.
#221 [01:13] <Mikau> yaaay!
#222 [01:13] <Kealper> lol
#223 [01:13] <Mikau> You can now backflip with AND without a nichel.
#224 [01:14] <Mikau> You should be so proud.
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#226 [01:15] <ANderson2230> does anyone have any experience with running the server.jar in ubuntu 10? i don't believe i am setting it up properly
#227 [01:16] <xales> we all do >.>
#228 [01:16] <xales> well
#229 [01:16] <xales> everyone at the top of the list of names
#230 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Cept for AuBot.
#231 [01:16] <Kealper> how are you trying to run it?
#232 [01:16] <nipper> What's the matter?
#233 [01:16] <Kealper> yeah, AuBot is windows-only, it's not versed in nix at all
#234 [01:16] <nipper> lol
#235 [01:17] <xales> AuBot: I'm having a windows problem. HELP ME
#236 [01:17] * Kealper wishes he had that console module loaded just then
#236 [01:17] <ANderson2230> well i was trying to start the server with the "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui"
#237 [01:17] <xales> well, the problem first of all
#238 [01:17] <xales> WINDOWS SUCKS GTFO OF HERE AUBOT
#239 [01:18] <xales> ANderson2230: what happened when you tried that
#240 [01:18] <Kealper> ;_;
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#242 [01:18] <ANderson2230> and i cant get it to start it doesn't do anything lol its kind of pathetic
#243 [01:18] <braxton> Hey, give me an example of the /give command please
#244 [01:18] <nipper> Did you make sure you have java installed?
#245 [01:18] <braxton> I need one that works ;_;
#246 [01:18] <xales> braxton: minecraftwiki.net >.>
#247 [01:18] <ANderson2230> then i just try and run it in the java client and it starts fine
#248 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> /give greyvulpine 64 64
#249 [01:18] <xales> ANderson2230: what happened when you tried to run it
#250 [01:18] <braxton> xales: I got it to work :D
#251 [01:18] <xales> what did it say
#252 [01:18] <xales> braxton: :D
#253 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> or, /give <playerid> <id> <num>
#254 [01:19] <braxton> Well, it's saying that 31 isn't an item id
#255 [01:19] <braxton> Or something similar
#256 [01:19] <ANderson2230> it gives me a warning about "cant keep up! did the system time change"
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#258 [01:19] <xales> thats normal
#259 [01:19] <xales> everyone gets that
#260 [01:19] <Neko> Failed to connect to server Connection timed out: connect
#261 [01:19] <Neko> ? :(
#262 [01:19] <nipper> ANderson2230 try connecting to it see if it lags at all.
#263 [01:20] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#264 [01:20] <ANderson2230> also the other problem i dont exactly know how yet >_>
#265 [01:20] <Kealper> !check 123.456.789.0
#266 [01:21] <ANderson2230> i am running the server on a laptop and trying to connect it on my other computer
#267 [01:21] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#268 [01:21] <nipper> !check 64.120.239.156
#269 [01:21] <Kealper> crap.
#270 [01:21] <ANderson2230> is this even possible
#271 [01:21] <xales> ANderson2230: are you using the right IP
#272 [01:21] <xales> and yes, it is possible
#273 [01:22] <ANderson2230> well the ip it is giving me is the typical "192.186.1.1" and then i add :25565 at the end and the client side times out
#274 [01:22] <Neko> !check 67.238.9.236
#275 [01:23] <Neko> GAH
#276 [01:23] <ANderson2230> the server doesn't even respond
#277 [01:23] <xales> ANderson2230: thats the wrong IP
#278 [01:23] <braxton> !check 72.69.77.27
#279 [01:23] <xales> that is the IP for your router
#280 [01:23] <Kealper> Neko: it's broke right now, it will say that for all of them
#281 [01:23] <ANderson2230> hold on you just gave me and idea
#282 [01:23] <braxton> Things look grim
#283 [01:23] <braxton> ?
#284 [01:23] <ANderson2230> i will check my router to see what is connected
#285 [01:23] <Neko> GreyVulpine: you there? :/
#286 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> No
#287 [01:24] <Neko> ok :(
#288 [01:24] <xales> Things look grim for DUMBBOT :O
#289 [01:24] <braxton> Okay, /give isn't working
#290 [01:24] <braxton> I don't get it
#291 [01:25] <xales> are you an op?
#292 [01:25] <braxton> It says giving bluebaron some 64
#293 [01:25] <braxton> I'm on the console
#294 [01:25] <braxton> And then I get nothing
#295 [01:25] <xales> remove the / then
#296 [01:25] <braxton> I didn't use a /
#297 [01:25] <xales> umm then you are doing it wrong? ._.
#298 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Check the ground in front of your character?
#299 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> or check the inventory?
#300 [01:25] <xales> I think it spawns next to you when you use /give, not sure
#301 [01:25] <ANderson2230> awesome it allowed me to connect
#302 [01:25] <ANderson2230> thanks
#303 [01:25] * GreyVulpine nods at xales
#303 [01:26] <ANderson2230> i wasn't thinking about the address properly
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#305 [01:26] <xales> np
#306 [01:26] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#307 [01:27] <sciz> hi i have question
#308 [01:27] <Kealper> we may have an answer
#309 [01:27] <Neko> GreyVulpine: I'm haveing some troubles
#310 [01:27] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#311 [01:27] <Kealper> :/
#312 [01:27] <xales> hello sciz
#313 [01:27] <ANderson2230> i have another question, i was hoping to allow my friends to connect to this same server would i need to forward any ports through the router?
#314 [01:27] <sciz> i want to know why theres stuff missing in my server properties
#315 [01:27] <ANderson2230> and what ip should i give my firends
#316 [01:27] <Kealper> some things should be left blank, like the server-ip part and such
#317 [01:27] <braxton> xales: Got it, nvm
#318 [01:28] <xales> ANderson2230: public IP
#319 [01:28] <sciz> well i dont even see a serverip part
#320 [01:28] <ANderson2230> and then the port for the server?
#321 [01:28] <xales> sciz: the stuff missing is probably stuff you shouldn't change anyway, if thats wht you mean
#322 [01:29] <xales> ANderson2230: unless you changed it, it is the default
#323 [01:29] <xales> and they dont need to enter it
#324 [01:29] <Neko> GreyVulpine ? Im relying on you cause you helped me last time x3
#325 [01:29] <ANderson2230> oh awesome
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#327 [01:29] <aetherian> hear ye hear ye
#328 [01:29] * aetherian has arrived
#328 [01:29] <aetherian> do not be afraid
#329 [01:29] * xales cowers behind GreyVulpine
#329 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> I did?
#330 [01:30] <sciz> well wat i mean is how come my properties file looks different compared to others
#331 [01:30] <sciz> ill give an example hold on
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#333 [01:30] <cris399> hey anyone here i have a few questions on mc
#334 [01:30] * aetherian is not afk, but not checking irc for a little, just thought you guys should know... I am sooo no prideful ever, I am like so humble
#334 [01:31] <Kealper> dotdotdot
#335 [01:31] <sciz> "level-name = " " pvp = " <---- i dont see those on my .properties
#336 [01:31] <Neko> GreyVulpine: You helped me port forward by bridging my routers >_>
#337 [01:31] <Kealper> did you delete them?
#338 [01:31] <sciz> no
#339 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't narrow it down much
#340 [01:31] <Kealper> did you want to change any of them?
#341 [01:32] <cometen> what is best xmx1024m or xms1024m my server tells me not enought ram
#342 [01:32] <Neko> GreyVulpine: it was like, 4 days ago D:
#343 [01:32] <Neko> or something
#344 [01:32] <cris399> anyone know how to go 3rd person in MC and crouch?
#345 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, the amount of people that pass through here...
#346 [01:32] <Kealper> they are by default set up so the server acts just like single player survival
#347 [01:32] <Neko> i have the embarq dsl :/
#348 [01:32] <sciz> not really unless it solves my other problem
#349 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> cris399 - f5 for third person
#350 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> then crouch is usually ctrl
#351 [01:32] <Neko> anyways, my server isnt working now
#352 [01:32] <cris399> ty
#353 [01:32] <Kealper> sciz: what is the problem, exactly?
#354 [01:32] <Neko> Failed to connect to server Connection timed out: connect
#355 [01:33] <Neko> the ports are forwarded to my knowledge
#356 [01:33] <sciz> other ppl can connect to my server but i cant connect to mine
#357 [01:33] <Neko> the only thing i can think of is that my brother restarted the router and modem earlier, so could that have messed with something?
#358 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> Maybe?
#359 [01:33] <Neko> :<
#360 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> Recheck your computer's ip, ensure that it still matches up with the port forward
#361 [01:34] <Kealper> sciz: are you hosting from your house? are you hosting off your own computer?
#362 [01:34] <sciz> yes and yes
#363 [01:34] <cris399> GreyVulpine its on ctrl for crouch, im on single player just got it
#364 [01:34] <cris399> not*
#365 [01:34] <Kealper> use localhost to connect to yours
#366 [01:34] <GreyVulpine> ctris - You can go to esc -> options to set your controls.
#367 [01:34] <GreyVulpine> It should tell you there
#368 [01:34] <sciz> i just type localhost into the ip box?
#369 [01:35] <Kealper> yes
#370 [01:35] <sciz> ok i will try this
#371 [01:35] <cris399> nope lol not there eather
#372 [01:36] <Neko> yay, rofl
#373 [01:36] <Neko> it changed from .100 to .101 >_>
#374 [01:36] <Neko> thanks~
#375 [01:36] <cometen> what is best xmx1024m or xms1024m
#376 [01:37] <Kealper> cometen: usually smart to have both
#377 [01:37] <cometen> ok ty
#378 [01:37] <sciz> i got crash
#379 [01:38] <Kealper> sciz: what'd it crash with, and what is your server's ip?
#380 [01:38] <sciz> it says something about an error report aldce528
#381 [01:39] <sciz> 24.86.228.143
#382 [01:40] <Kealper> can't even connect from here
#383 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com the error report?
#384 [01:40] <sciz> ok
#385 [01:41] <sciz> http://pastebin.com/Py7kdxq5
#386 [01:43] <Kealper> uhh...do you get that every time?
#387 [01:43] <sciz> its that or some red screen with some msg
#388 [01:43] <Kealper> wait....
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#390 [01:44] <Kealper> is there a file called externalurl.txt inside your server's folder?
#391 [01:44] <sciz> yes
#392 [01:44] <Kealper> that's a classic server
#393 [01:44] <sciz> o
#394 [01:44] <sciz> wow lol
#395 [01:44] <Kealper> shut it down and delete it...
#396 [01:44] <Kealper> !server
#397 [01:45] <sciz> ok i will try this
#398 [01:46] <Kealper> brb
#399 [01:49] <sciz> ok umm.. how would i go about using my singleplayer world as my multiplayer world since there's no folder
#400 [01:49] <Kealper> go to the Run window
#401 [01:49] <Kealper> and type: %appdata%\.minecraft
#402 [01:50] <Kealper> go into the saves folder,and choose the world you want
#403 [01:50] <Kealper> then just rename that folder to just "world" once inside your server's directory, and enjoy
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#406 [01:55] <sciz> ok can u try logging into server again to see if it works now
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#408 [01:55] <Kealper> still no go, do you have the port forwarding set up correctly?
#409 [01:56] <sciz> yes i am sure
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#411 [01:56] <Kealper> absolutely 1000000% positive?
#412 [01:56] <sciz> yes but i think i did something wrong
#413 [01:57] <sciz> does my .exe file have to be in same folder as the server folder
#414 [01:57] <Kealper> exe for what?
#415 [01:57] <Kealper> minecraft.exe or minecraft_server.exe?
#416 [01:57] <sciz> the minecraft_server.exe
#417 [01:57] <Kealper> should be inside the folder you wanted to run the server in....yes
#418 [01:58] <Kealper> and it needs to stay running
#419 [01:58] <sciz> o stupid me hold on haha
#420 [01:58] <aetherian> back
#421 [01:58] <Kealper> wb
#422 [01:58] <xales> welcome ba..oh wait its you
#423 [01:58] <Kealper> owned
#424 [01:58] <aetherian> >;_;
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#426 [01:59] <xales> lol
#427 [01:59] <Kealper> ok so i can make a chat server and chat client in one night, but i can't get this 10 line program to res.....
#428 [02:00] <Kealper> straight up rubber-ducky debugged that shit
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#430 [02:01] <Kealper> forgot to initialize tcp stuff in the program i was trying to work with tcp in -.-
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#432 [02:02] <Moonwolf> happens to the best
#433 [02:02] <Mushuukyou> all of a sudden my game is chuggin, and I don't know why
#434 [02:02] <Mushuukyou> really skippy and chuggy
#435 [02:02] <Mushuukyou> pausing
#436 [02:02] <Kealper> generating more world?
#437 [02:02] <Kealper> virus scan running in the background?
#438 [02:03] <Mushuukyou> oh no
#439 [02:03] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#440 [02:03] <Moonwolf> !help
#441 [02:04] <Kealper> doesn't have one of those, although i should make one
#442 [02:04] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#443 [02:04] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#444 [02:04] <Moonwolf> jep definitly a good idea
#445 [02:04] <Kealper> hmmm....
#446 [02:04] <Mushuukyou> yea this is unplayable
#447 [02:05] <Mushuukyou> i even restarted
#448 [02:05] <Kealper> go into task manager, are you randomly using a ton of cpu or ram?
#449 [02:06] <Mushuukyou> monitoring it now
#450 [02:06] <Mushuukyou> nope
#451 [02:06] <Mushuukyou> it seems to really od it when I'm on this sand dune
#452 [02:07] <Mushuukyou> when I move away i'm fine
#453 [02:07] <Kealper> O.o
#454 [02:07] <KART35|iPod> urm
#455 [02:07] <Kealper> fence off the dune then? lol
#456 [02:07] <KART35|iPod> i haz an idea
#457 [02:07] <Mushuukyou> yea when I climb these sand hills, it gets bad
#458 [02:07] <Mushuukyou> so chunky as long as I stay there
#459 [02:07] <KART35|iPod> does it do the same thing on a gravel pile?
#460 [02:07] <Mushuukyou> i haven't tried/don't see one
#461 [02:08] <KART35|iPod> try it
#462 [02:08] <Mushuukyou> i wonder if it's the texture pak i'm using
#463 [02:08] <Kealper> kart i'm curious as to where you are going with this lol
#464 [02:08] <KART35|iPod> doubt it
#465 [02:08] <sciz> ok kealper try now
#466 [02:08] <KART35|iPod> my guess its physics enables tiles
#467 [02:08] <Mushuukyou> i don't know of any huge gravel sites to jump on
#468 [02:08] <Mushuukyou> oh ok
#469 [02:08] <Kealper> ahh.....could be
#470 [02:09] <Mushuukyou> so how could I rectify
#471 [02:09] <KART35|iPod> idk
#472 [02:09] <KART35|iPod> talk to notch
#473 [02:09] <Kealper> still can't connect sciz
#474 [02:09] <KART35|iPod> have the phys checks run less often
#475 [02:09] <KART35|iPod> idk
#476 [02:09] <Kealper> either your port forwarding is wrong, or your isp blocks incoming connections on port 25565
#477 [02:09] <Mushuukyou> do that for the game or in nvidia processes?
#478 [02:10] <KART35|iPod> best solution is to get a better cpu for your pc if you can
#479 [02:10] <Mushuukyou> uh
#480 [02:10] <Mushuukyou> I have top of the line
#481 [02:10] <KART35|iPod> O.o
#482 [02:10] <Kealper> define top of the line?
#483 [02:10] <Mushuukyou> i7 920 quad core
#484 [02:10] <Mushuukyou> 6gig DDR3
#485 [02:10] <KART35|iPod> thars your prob
#486 [02:10] <sciz> well im pretty sure port forwarding is right so i will try and talk with my isp
#487 [02:10] <Mushuukyou> gforce450 sli
#488 [02:10] <KART35|iPod> i series
#489 [02:10] <sciz> tyvm tho sir
#490 [02:10] <KART35|iPod> cpu throttling js a bitch
#491 [02:10] <KART35|iPod> is*
#492 [02:11] <Mushuukyou> that isn't a problem
#493 [02:11] <KART35|iPod> it doesnt detect java as a game
#494 [02:11] <Mushuukyou> i can assign it
#495 [02:11] <KART35|iPod> so it stays at 1.xx ghz
#496 [02:11] <Mushuukyou> there has to be a way to make it happier
#497 [02:11] <KART35|iPod> when you need at least 2.25 to do it properly
#498 [02:11] <Kealper> kart is that why so many people have issues with shitty performance with core is?
#499 [02:11] <KART35|iPod> yes
#500 [02:12] <Kealper> that makes sense then.....which means my fangirlishness still stands for amd
#501 [02:12] <KART35|iPod> im perfectly happy with my core 2 quad :P
#502 [02:12] <Kealper> lol
#503 [02:12] <KART35|iPod> but
#504 [02:12] <KART35|iPod> i have an amd phenom processor based linux box
#505 [02:13] <KART35|iPod> and mc lurrves it
#506 [02:13] <KART35|iPod> 200 fps
#507 [02:13] <Kealper> hmm....after re-readin what i said, i should probably note that i call extreme fanboys fangirls....so, incase that confuesed anyone, i am a guy lol
#508 [02:13] <KART35|iPod> crazy shit
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#510 [02:14] <Kryptos> #smp
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#512 [02:16] <KART35|iPod> ?
#513 [02:16] <Mushuukyou> Well, I've changed it to use only one cpu, and also changed priority, neither helped.
#514 [02:16] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#515 [02:16] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#516 [02:16] <KART35|iPod> Mushuukyou: you need to disable cpu throttling
#517 [02:16] <Kealper> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
#518 [02:16] <xales> kealper
#519 [02:16] <KART35|iPod> i suggest googling it
#520 [02:16] <xales> is the server running
#521 [02:16] <xales> did you port forward
#522 [02:16] <xales> is the firewall disabled
#523 [02:17] <xales> is the IP line blank
#524 [02:17] <xales> :P
#525 [02:17] <Kealper> xales: i'll stab you in the neck lol
#526 [02:17] <xales> do it
#527 [02:17] * Kealper stabs a fork at his monitor
#527 [02:17] <xales> trololol I got a shield
#528 [02:18] <Kealper> noes!
#529 [02:18] <Kealper> you know what.....
#530 [02:18] <Kealper> i wonder if my server is just so slow that it can't start the process in 2 seconds....
#531 [02:19] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#532 [02:19] <Kealper> !check localhost
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#535 [02:19] <Kealper> what is this i don't even
#536 [02:19] <Kealper> the code works fine on my computer but fails on my server
#537 [02:20] <xales> lol
#538 [02:20] <xales> trolled
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#541 [02:22] <Kealper> ok....the code works fine on my server aswell...but it's failing for the module?
#542 [02:23] <Kealper> am i even trying to run the program from the correct dir u.u
#543 [02:24] <KART35|iPod> logs
#544 [02:24] <KART35|iPod> you needz em
#545 [02:24] <Kealper> omg....no...i'm not...
#546 [02:24] <Kealper> man i really suck at this tonight
#547 [02:24] <KART35|iPod> what language?
#548 [02:24] <Kealper> AutoIt
#549 [02:25] <KART35|iPod> out of my leauge there
#550 [02:25] <KART35|iPod> if you had said c or c++
#551 [02:25] <KART35|iPod> i could help
#552 [02:25] <KART35|iPod> *or php
#553 [02:25] <Kealper> the sad thig is i'm practically a guru with the language but i've just been failing left and right tonight
#554 [02:26] <KART35|iPod> well
#555 [02:26] <Kealper> ok.....recompiled for the last time...
#556 [02:26] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#557 [02:26] <Kealper> !check localhost
#558 [02:26] <Kealper> screw it i give up
#559 [02:26] <KART35|iPod> try a numeric address
#560 [02:26] <Mushuukyou> I got throttlestop, trying to learn how to use it now.
#561 [02:27] <Kealper> !cehck 127.0.0.1
#562 [02:27] <Kealper> ....
#563 [02:27] <KART35|iPod> derp
#564 [02:27] <Kealper> !check 127.0.0.1
#565 [02:27] <KART35|iPod> yep
#566 [02:27] <KART35|iPod> codes are fuxord
#567 [02:28] * Kealper throws 10 tons of debugging code in
#567 [02:28] <KART35|iPod> always worth it
#568 [02:29] <xales> Kealper
#569 [02:29] <xales> you forgot
#570 [02:29] <xales> to upload it
#571 [02:29] <xales> :P
#572 [02:29] <Kealper> omg lol
#573 [02:30] <KART35|iPod> someone needs coffie
#574 [02:30] <KART35|iPod> also
#575 [02:30] * KART35|iPod bookmarkes the website
#575 [02:30] <KART35|iPod> im interested in this...
#576 [02:30] <Kealper> !check asdfjshfda
#577 [02:30] <Kealper> whoops...forgot to reload
#578 [02:30] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#579 [02:30] <Kealper> interested in what?
#580 [02:31] <KART35|iPod> that language
#581 [02:31] <Kealper> windows-only, unless run under wine, and sometimes it hates wine
#582 [02:31] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#583 [02:31] <KART35|iPod> considering how much i use shell scripting in linux...
#584 [02:31] <Kealper> whoops....wrong command
#585 [02:31] <Kealper> didn't push up enough
#586 [02:31] <Kealper> !check asdfjshfda
#587 [02:31] <Kealper> crap
#588 [02:32] <Moonwolf> what is it suposed to do ?
#589 [02:32] <Kealper> the 1s?
#590 [02:32] <Kealper> or the command itself?
#591 [02:32] <KART35|iPod> both
#592 [02:32] <Moonwolf> the command itself
#593 [02:32] <Kealper> checks to see if a minecraft server is running on said ip/port
#594 [02:33] <KART35|iPod> by pinging it?
#595 [02:33] <Kealper> the first 1 means it found the file it needs to work, the second 1 means it could not start it
#596 [02:33] <Kealper> and no, it actually connects via tcp to said address/port
#597 [02:33] <KART35|iPod> interesting
#598 [02:33] <Kealper> ping uses icmp, that would just say if the machine is there :S
#599 [02:34] <Moonwolf> !check moonMC.dyndns-ip.com
#600 [02:34] <KART35|iPod> reload...
#601 [02:34] <KART35|iPod> reupload
#602 [02:34] <KART35|iPod> rinse and repeat :D
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#604 [02:34] <Kealper> i'm at a loss as to why this and this specifically can't run that other program it needs
#605 [02:35] <Moonwolf> ... well what have i thought i cant even connect to my server at current so no good to tet the bot
#606 [02:35] <Kealper> lol
#607 [02:35] <Moonwolf> what programm is it and how do you call it ?
#608 [02:35] <xales> Kealper
#609 [02:36] <xales> you forgot
#610 [02:36] <xales> to reload it
#611 [02:36] <Kealper> it's a program that i made, and it's called via starting it with cmd line params, first one being ip, second being port
#612 [02:36] <xales> Kealper
#613 [02:36] <Mushuukyou> I don't think throttling is an issue
#614 [02:36] <xales> the program isnt running
#615 [02:36] <xales> run it manually to check
#616 [02:36] <xales> :P
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#618 [02:36] <Kealper> i did....lol
#619 [02:38] <xales> then you did it wrong
#620 [02:38] <xales> do it again
#621 [02:38] <xales> this time make sure the firewall is ALL TEH WAY off
#622 [02:38] <Kealper> ok....last time....if this doesn't work then i'm reverting back to the other way
#623 [02:38] <Kealper> omg lol
#624 [02:38] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#625 [02:38] <KART35|iPod> well?
#626 [02:38] <Kealper> !check localhost
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#628 [02:39] <Kealper> !check asdkhasdga
#629 [02:39] * KART35|iPod facepalms
#629 [02:39] <Kealper> ..........
#630 [02:39] <KART35|iPod> id call that good enougj
#631 [02:39] <Kealper> wait, might have triggered flood control...
#632 [02:39] <Kealper> !check affasf
#633 [02:39] <KART35|iPod> enough*
#634 [02:39] <Kealper> no?
#635 [02:39] <Kealper> oh
#636 [02:39] <Mushuukyou> So other people with i7 processors were having problems?
#637 [02:40] <Mushuukyou> I never had a problem with wurm
#638 [02:40] <Mushuukyou> it also ran on java
#639 [02:40] <Kealper> there are quite a few users having issues
#640 [02:40] <Kealper> wurm also has a static envoriment, not a totally destroyable one :S
#641 [02:40] <KART35|iPod> i know of another game
#642 [02:40] <Mushuukyou> true
#643 [02:40] <KART35|iPod> that has similar issues
#644 [02:40] <Mushuukyou> well the throttling didn't hlep at all, I'm still screwed when I'm at certain areas of the map
#645 [02:40] <KART35|iPod> on those processors
#646 [02:41] <KART35|iPod> try disabling c1e
#647 [02:41] <KART35|iPod> it will run a few degrees c higher tho
#648 [02:41] <Kealper> so...if anyone was curious...i spelled the working directory wrong in the Run command...
#649 [02:42] <Kealper> you may now revoke my nerd card
#650 [02:42] <Mushuukyou> c states?
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#652 [02:42] <KART35|iPod> celcius
#653 [02:42] <KART35|iPod> or however you spell it
#654 [02:43] <KART35|iPod> Kealper: you need to define some envionment variables
#655 [02:43] <Mushuukyou> well this sucks
#656 [02:43] <Mushuukyou> I hope he's working on this issue
#657 [02:43] <Mushuukyou> I can't play the game fully like this
#658 [02:43] <KART35|iPod> well
#659 [02:43] <Kealper> a single program to serve a simple purpose is not worthy of it's own env var lol
#660 [02:43] <KART35|iPod> i haz an idsa
#661 [02:44] <KART35|iPod> idea*
#662 [02:44] <Mushuukyou> get a refund and uninstall?
#663 [02:44] <KART35|iPod> no
#664 [02:44] <Mushuukyou> :)
#665 [02:44] <KART35|iPod> how much hdd space do you have?
#666 [02:44] <Moonwolf> well my idea for today was jump off a cliv or kill some pixels
#667 [02:44] <Mushuukyou> 20gigs free on C, 143 gigs free on D
#668 [02:44] <KART35|iPod> ok
#669 [02:44] <Mushuukyou> partitioned
#670 [02:45] <KART35|iPod> you ok with doing an install of linux to d without a reformat?
#671 [02:45] <KART35|iPod> [wubi]
#672 [02:45] <Mushuukyou> I've never done that.... can't I just do an emulation?
#673 [02:45] <Mushuukyou> will ubuntu be ok, does it matter?
#674 [02:45] <Kealper> wubi is better, and it is easy
#675 [02:45] <KART35|iPod> well
#676 [02:45] <Mushuukyou> ok
#677 [02:45] <Kealper> and it does not hurt anything
#678 [02:46] <Kealper> takes ~10-15 min
#679 [02:46] <Mushuukyou> can I run it while in windows
#680 [02:46] <Mushuukyou> or do I have to boot to it
#681 [02:46] <KART35|iPod> boot into it
#682 [02:46] <Kealper> boot to it
#683 [02:46] <Mushuukyou> blah
#684 [02:46] <KART35|iPod> its a pretty good os tho
#685 [02:46] <Mushuukyou> vmware won't be good enough?
#686 [02:46] <Moonwolf> im outa here cu guys and good luck with the bot Kealper
#687 [02:46] <KART35|iPod> id expect it to lag...
#688 [02:46] <Kealper> vmware sucks for hardware acceleration
#689 [02:46] <Mushuukyou> ok
#690 [02:46] <Kealper> Moonwolf: i got it now :P
#691 [02:46] <KART35|iPod> but you could try it
#692 [02:46] <Mushuukyou> yea I know it has its limits
#693 [02:47] <Moonwolf> !check moonMC.dyndns-ip.com
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#695 [02:47] <KART35|iPod> bit yes
#696 [02:47] <KART35|iPod> for java shit
#697 [02:47] <KART35|iPod> linux is second best
#698 [02:47] <xales> !check omghackmycomputer.com
#699 [02:47] <KART35|iPod> an oracle server being the first
#700 [02:47] <xales> Kealper
#701 [02:47] <Mushuukyou> so you're saying windows is what's screwing me up
#702 [02:47] <xales> linuxatemyram.com
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#704 [02:47] <xales> by the way
#705 [02:47] <KART35|iPod> partially
#706 [02:48] <Kealper> do i want to know? lol
#707 [02:48] <Mushuukyou> does developer know about this issue? working on it?
#708 [02:48] <Moonwolf> well at least i know someone from outside can contact the server
#709 [02:48] <KART35|iPod> as i said
#710 [02:48] <Kealper> xales lolwut?
#711 [02:48] <KART35|iPod> you could try talking to notch
#712 [02:48] <Moonwolf> someone care try to joining it? maybe the prob is only LAN
#713 [02:49] <xales> Kealper: go to linuxatemyram.com
#714 [02:49] <Kealper> Moonwolf: if aubot can connect to it, people can aswell
#715 [02:49] <Kealper> xales: but i already knew about how linux works with ram :S
#716 [02:49] <Mushuukyou> how do I talk to notch
#717 [02:49] <Kealper> the domain is rather humorous though
#718 [02:49] <KART35|iPod> urm
#719 [02:50] <KART35|iPod> ask someone other than me i. th
#720 [02:50] <Moonwolf> well i always get a timeout or something like that
#721 [02:50] <KART35|iPod> in this room*
#722 [02:50] <Mushuukyou> Does Notch have an email? Is he the dev?
#723 [02:50] <Moonwolf> and the prob with aubot is that he cancels the connection halfway through
#724 [02:50] <Kealper> markus@mojang.com
#725 [02:50] <KART35|iPod> ^
#726 [02:50] * Moonwolf facepalm
#726 [02:50] <Mushuukyou> is that a joke
#727 [02:50] <Kealper> no
#728 [02:51] <xales> !check wikileaks.org
#729 [02:51] <xales> lol
#730 [02:51] <KART35|iPod> rofl
#731 [02:51] <Moonwolf> xD
#732 [02:51] <Kealper> all mojang employees have their first name @mojang.com for emails
#733 [02:51] <Kealper> !check wikileaks.se:80
#734 [02:51] <Moonwolf> thats so going to gbo
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#736 [02:52] <Kealper> and the FBI will probably be at my door in 5 min to find out why i just hit that domain lol
#737 [02:53] <Kealper> woohoo....this server has 1.2 gigs of ram free
#738 [02:53] <Kealper> didn't know about free -m :S
#739 [02:53] <xales> lol
#740 [02:54] <Kealper> owell, maybe being connected to a nix shell for 16 hours a day might make me learn a few things
#741 [02:54] <Mushuukyou> ok email sent
#742 [02:54] <Kealper> i should really check my PMs more than once an hour
#743 [02:55] <xales> lol
#744 [02:55] <Mushuukyou> oh cool they are forwarding wikileaks to a mirror now
#745 [02:55] <Kealper> Mushuukyou: now it could take up to a day for him to respond, he gets a ton of emails a day
#746 [02:55] <Mushuukyou> :(
#747 [02:55] <Mushuukyou> I'll try to stay out of the "restricted areas" for now.
#748 [02:55] <Kealper> infact...why is it that once i get a client that doesn't beep on a pm, i get tons of them?
#749 [02:56] <Mushuukyou> thanks for the email
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#751 [02:58] <Kealper> http://kids.woot.com/ :(
#752 [02:58] <Kealper> want
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#754 [03:00] <aetherian> ohhh nooo
#755 [03:00] <Mushuukyou> why can I still click on my door to open it.. shouldn't it be using the buttons and stuff
#756 [03:00] <Moonwolf> could someone try and test it : moonMC.dyndns-ip.com last run then im finaly going to bed -.-
#757 [03:00] <Kealper> use an iron door if you do not want it openable by anything but redstone
#758 [03:00] <xales> or a pick
#759 [03:01] <Kealper> but that's just mean :P
#760 [03:01] <KART35|iPod> !chek moonMC.dyndns-ip.com
#761 [03:01] <KART35|iPod> bleh
#762 [03:02] <KART35|iPod> !check moonMC.dyndns-ip.com
#763 [03:02] <kontroll> Or buttons / pressure plates, herr Kealper. :P
#764 [03:02] <Kealper> no it doens't strip whitespace lol
#765 [03:02] <kontroll> Let's not forget.
#766 [03:02] <KART35|iPod> !check moonMC.dyndns-ip.com
#767 [03:02] <Kealper> those are redstone though
#768 [03:02] <kontroll> Lies.
#769 [03:02] <kontroll> I construct buttons without a touch of redstone.
#770 [03:02] <kontroll> :P
#771 [03:02] <Moonwolf> well checking it out in lan a last time hopefully it wasnt couse my pc has to much work to do atm
#772 [03:03] <Kealper> they're redstone power sources though :P
#773 [03:05] <kontroll> I made a trach switch in mine + buddy's house. :>
#774 [03:05] <Kealper> lol
#775 [03:05] <kontroll> Underground circuitry et all.
#776 [03:05] <kontroll> Looks brilliant.
#777 [03:05] <kontroll> Oh, with indicator lights.
#778 [03:06] <Kealper> oh man...if you want to see some decent redstone and tracks...my server has a nice subway system lol
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#780 [03:06] <kontroll> :>
#781 [03:06] <kontroll> Is it not possible, btw, to box in the spawn?
#782 [03:07] * Moonwolf_ is banging head to desk in pure rage
#782 [03:07] <Kealper> HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY shit http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs390.ash2/66820_468997720063_557090063_6031769_2067486_n.jpg
#783 [03:07] <Kealper> my friend saved up all his spare $1 bills for the year, and just recently counted them
#784 [03:07] <Moonwolf_> *do want*
#785 [03:08] <DopeGhoti> looks like maybe $150-$250?
#786 [03:08] <Kealper> about $950
#787 [03:08] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#788 [03:08] <Moonwolf_> want want want
#789 [03:08] <DopeGhoti> Moonwolf_: then start saving your Georges.
#790 [03:10] <Moonwolf_> well i dont have any georges
#791 [03:11] <DopeGhoti> go with Franklins then.
#792 [03:11] <Moonwolf_> dont have them either ^^
#793 [03:11] <DopeGhoti> get a job?
#794 [03:11] <Moonwolf_> have one but i only get eagles and dumb buildings
#795 [03:12] <DopeGhoti> or s/AmericanDignitary/CorrespondingDignitateFromYourLocale/
#796 [03:12] <DopeGhoti> Or do you seriously get paid in avian predators and real estate?
#797 [03:12] <Moonwolf_> at least something to smile i love it to annoy other poeple ^^
#798 [03:13] <kontroll> LOL
#799 [03:13] <kontroll> Friend made a secret entrance in our emergency shower.
#800 [03:13] <kontroll> Down to a portal. But it isn't working.
#801 [03:14] <DopeGhoti> "Minecraft: the one place where you can realistically say 'fix it with fire!'."
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#803 [03:16] <Moonwolf_> yeah and i thik i will literarely burn a cd of my minecraft server
#804 [03:17] <DopeGhoti> heh; my server's maps are taking up nearly 2 DVDs worth of space now :O
#805 [03:17] <DopeGhoti> though the world is thankfully only 266MB
#806 [03:18] <Moonwolf_> well my server was restarted recently so the map only is about 5-10 mb
#807 [03:19] <DopeGhoti> ..you could arhive that in an _email attachemnt_ :)
#808 [03:20] <kontroll> :D
#809 [03:20] <kontroll> Our ticket office was staffed again. ^^
#810 [03:20] <Moonwolf_> yeah but i cant burn it then the server is fixed but the "with fire" would add to my happines
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#817 [03:30] <Mushuukyou> yay mined my first diamond
#818 [03:31] <peru> heh congrats
#819 [03:31] <peru> make diamond pickaxe when you have 3.. see how extra durable it is
#820 [03:34] <Mushuukyou> ok, but i should save them for the obsidian right
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#822 [03:43] <UncleBill> hey, just fyi
#823 [03:43] <UncleBill> the missing chunk error that ive been having is not exclusive to windows
#824 [03:50] <UncleBill> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=117322
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#826 [03:53] <EXG|vorE> My login is not working =[
#827 [03:53] <xales> what do you mean
#828 [03:53] <xales> what happens when you try to login
#829 [03:53] <EXG|vorE> I just payed and it still says i am not a premium member...any ideas?
#830 [03:53] <xales> !payment
#831 [03:53] <xales> !premium
#832 [03:53] <xales> ._.
#833 [03:53] <xales> umm
#834 [03:54] <xales> it takes some time
#835 [03:54] <xales> wait 24 hours
#836 [03:54] <EXG|vorE> oh rle?
#837 [03:54] <EXG|vorE> allright
#838 [03:54] <xales> and email payment@mojang.com if its not up by then
#839 [03:54] <xales> it shouldnt be more than a few minute sthough
#840 [03:54] <EXG|vorE> cuz my friend also just bought his and he started playing immediatly
#841 [03:54] <xales> whats your username?
#842 [03:54] <xales> !paid xales
#843 [03:54] <EXG|vorE> YeeSwag
#844 [03:54] <xales> !paid YeeSwag
#845 [03:54] <xales> it may just take some time
#846 [03:54] <EXG|vorE> actually my friend paid for it...does that make a difference
#847 [03:55] <xales> did he buy a gift code?
#848 [03:55] <EXG|vorE> Don't think so...with his credit card
#849 [03:55] <xales> unless he bought it on your account, it won't activate your account
#850 [03:55] <EXG|vorE> yeah he was logged into my account
#851 [03:56] <xales> the card company may have flagged the transaction fradulent for being similar to a previous one in a short window
#852 [03:56] <xales> make sure it really went through
#853 [03:56] <EXG|vorE> It's not the same friend though..just a friend with a CC
#854 [03:56] <EXG|vorE> He doesn't have MC
#855 [03:57] <xales> ah
#856 [03:57] <EXG|vorE> i gave him my info and he just bought it
#857 [03:57] <EXG|vorE> :P
#858 [03:57] <xales> did you use paypal?
#859 [03:57] <xales> did he*
#860 [03:57] <EXG|vorE> No...Visa
#861 [03:57] <xales> it wasn't a prepaid card by any chance, was it?
#862 [03:58] <EXG|vorE> was i supposed to get an email after purchase? cuz i didnt
#863 [03:58] <EXG|vorE> no its a credit card im sure...let me ask
#864 [03:58] <xales> you would get the email when it registered your transaction
#865 [03:58] <xales> which hasn't happened
#866 [03:59] <xales> how long ago did he/you buy it?
#867 [03:59] <EXG|vorE> Did u check?
#868 [03:59] <EXG|vorE> um like
#869 [03:59] <EXG|vorE> 5 min ago
#870 [03:59] <EXG|vorE> 10 min
#871 [03:59] <xales> wait 24 hours, if its not registered by then
#872 [03:59] <xales> email payment@mojang.com
#873 [04:00] <EXG|vorE> allright thnx
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#875 [04:00] <xales> yw
#876 [04:00] <EXG|vorE> Is it just slow?
#877 [04:00] <EXG|vorE> for the transaction to go through
#878 [04:01] <xales> sometimes
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#881 [04:04] <Moonwolf_> minecarts glitching servers since alpha
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#889 [04:30] <genshou-afk> Ahoy Mushuukyou! Still awake? :D
#890 [04:31] <Moonwolf> !check moonmc.dyndns-ip.com
#891 [04:32] <genshou-afk> Well, that's one way to check your server? >.>;
#892 [04:32] <Moonwolf> from your side it maybe looks fine from mine not -.- grftjx bot
#893 [04:32] <Moonwolf> yep it is
#894 [04:32] <genshou-afk> ;>
#895 [04:33] <genshou> Well now that my friend is finished demonstrating that he needs anger management (again), time to finish demolishing my old railway
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#897 [04:34] <Moonwolf> ...? pls what ?
#898 [04:34] <genshou> I'm gonna go forward and down into my mine this time, to save tracks and make boosting simpler
#899 [04:34] <kage-ookami> only thing AuBot checks, is if the port is open >,<
#900 [04:34] <genshou> I have a few concepts I want to test in a different world via inventory editing
#901 [04:35] <Moonwolf> yea
#902 [04:35] <genshou> rail stations with auto-returning carts and the like
#903 [04:35] <Moonwolf> but at least now i know it was a other problem
#904 [04:35] <Moonwolf> -.- its MCAdmin i cant connect to server befor the 1st autosave -.-
#905 [04:35] * kage-ookami is still looking for a vanilla server -.-
#905 [04:36] <genshou> I would think about running a server but I'm with my parents while between apartments, and they have DSL >:I
#906 [04:36] <Moonwolf> and the prob is ?
#907 [04:37] <kage-ookami> upsream to narrow?
#908 [04:37] <genshou> DSL doesn't exactly compare to being plugged into a T-3 ;)
#909 [04:37] <genshou> which is what I'm accustomed to
#910 [04:37] <kage-ookami> hehe.
#911 [04:37] * genshou slaps his monitor around a bit with a large trout
#911 [04:38] <kage-ookami> eww. don't pull out those old stinking fish!
#912 [04:38] <Moonwolf> T-3?
#913 [04:38] <kage-ookami> T-3 is wired - umm.. - 10Mbit I think...
#914 [04:39] <kage-ookami> could be more. At least way more than DSL.
#915 [04:39] <Moonwolf> okay
#916 [04:39] <kage-ookami> and up-/downstream both are good. DSL often has a very low upstream.
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#918 [04:39] <mikelollu> hello
#919 [04:39] <mikelollu> anyone online?
#920 [04:39] <kage-ookami> no just pretending
#921 [04:39] <genshou> no, only 139 ghosts
#922 [04:39] <mikelollu> can y0u h3lp?
#923 [04:40] * kage-ookami doesn't help no leetspeakers.
#923 [04:40] <Moonwolf> Yea hello im a bot im online
#924 [04:40] <Moonwolf> what u need help with ?
#925 [04:40] <genshou> Yeah, I prefer people use normal letters. It's easier to read, and if you want help, it's nice to make your request easy on the eyes and easy to understand :)
#926 [04:40] <mikelollu> every time i try to connect I get into the game but theres only 1 chunk that loads under my feet after about 1 min i disconnect with error Timed Out
#927 [04:40] <mikelollu> obviously only in SMP.
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#929 [04:41] <mikelollu> any ideas on how to fix it?
#930 [04:41] <Moonwolf> well that seems like you dont have enough CPU, RAM or your internet connection is to slow (what are the specs for them? )
#931 [04:41] <Mushuukyou> gen yes
#932 [04:41] <mikelollu> well
#933 [04:41] <Mushuukyou> I'm awake
#934 [04:42] <genshou> Are you enjoying that new diamond pick? ;>
#935 [04:42] <mikelollu> i have a 2.66 Ghz i7 processor
#936 [04:42] <Mushuukyou> i haven't used it
#937 [04:42] <mikelollu> and 6 GB ram
#938 [04:42] <Mushuukyou> it's sitting in my chest
#939 [04:42] <Mushuukyou> it's too perty to use
#940 [04:42] <mikelollu> internet is fine because i can play on my laptop
#941 [04:42] <genshou> Oh erm, you asked about obsidian. No, use the diamond like mad xD
#942 [04:42] <mikelollu> just not THIS pc
#943 [04:42] <genshou> It cuts through stone SO FAST and will make your mining much less boring.
#944 [04:42] <Mushuukyou> how logn does a diamond pick last
#945 [04:42] <genshou> ...And if you're bedrock mining, you'll find plenty of diamond to replace it before it breaks.
#946 [04:42] <mikelollu> any Idea?
#947 [04:43] <Moonwolf> i heard there were some problems with i7 cpus
#948 [04:43] <genshou> Check the wiki for the exact number, but over 1000 uses.
#949 [04:43] <Mushuukyou> yea moon
#950 [04:43] <Mushuukyou> I'm having problems with i7
#951 [04:43] <mikelollu> any fixes?
#952 [04:43] <Mushuukyou> unplayable in some areas of the game
#953 [04:43] <mikelollu> like smp?
#954 [04:43] <Mushuukyou> i've tried a few fixes but nothing worked
#955 [04:43] <Mushuukyou> so i stay out of the areas.. I emailed him and hoping for a fix
#956 [04:43] <mikelollu> do you get timed out errors?
#957 [04:43] <kage-ookami> Get a decent CPU: IBM 8086 for example :P
#958 [04:44] <mikelollu> lolz i7 = domination
#959 [04:44] <Mushuukyou> it gets so slow in some areas of the map
#960 [04:44] <Mushuukyou> chugs
#961 [04:44] <mikelollu> no like
#962 [04:44] <mikelollu> my whole game freezes
#963 [04:44] <mikelollu> only 1 chunk loads
#964 [04:44] <Mushuukyou> yea mine too
#965 [04:44] <mikelollu> and then i time out
#966 [04:44] <Mushuukyou> it's lame
#967 [04:44] <mikelollu> does notch know?
#968 [04:44] <genshou> You sure it's not a network issue? :o
#969 [04:44] <Mushuukyou> hah
#970 [04:45] <mikelollu> its not
#971 [04:45] <Mushuukyou> doubt that
#972 [04:45] <mikelollu> i can play on my laptop
#973 [04:45] <mikelollu> learn2readplease
#974 [04:45] <Mushuukyou> hey now
#975 [04:45] <mikelollu> just kiidinng
#976 [04:45] <genshou> I can play Minecraft on several computers. They're not all connected to the internet via the same line.
#977 [04:45] <genshou> Thus, port forwarding and such are relevant causes for issues with smp ;<
#978 [04:46] <mikelollu> its not a network issue
#979 [04:46] <mikelollu> i dont think
#980 [04:46] <mikelollu> because i contacted comcast
#981 [04:46] <genshou> Well, I guess you just have to hope it gets fixed xD
#982 [04:46] <mikelollu> as this has been happening for 2 days
#983 [04:46] <Moonwolf> well maybe you try and turn of your Firewall one time and play maybe its that
#984 [04:46] <mikelollu> already did that
#985 [04:46] <mikelollu> firewalls are off by default
#986 [04:47] <kage-ookami> *koughs*
#987 [04:47] <Moonwolf> plüs whatoO ?
#988 [04:47] <mikelollu> whatever i guess ill give up tonight
#989 [04:47] <mikelollu> bye
#990 [04:47] <Moonwolf> ... pah no stamina it took me 4 hours till i got my prob fixed
#991 [04:48] <kage-ookami> <mikelollu> firewalls are off by default <-- probably his problem, got a few 'friends' using memory/CPU/bandwidth
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#993 [04:48] <kage-ookami> Moonwolf: which VM do you use?
#994 [04:49] <Moonwolf> VM?
#995 [04:50] <Moonwolf> what do u mean by VM?
#996 [04:50] <kage-ookami> Virtual Machine - Java needs one.
#997 [04:51] <kage-ookami> Or actually it is what runs the Java bytecode
#998 [04:52] <Moonwolf> uhm well the only things i have to run java are jre 6.22 from sun and M$WinXP and it works ..
#999 [04:52] <Moonwolf> tried it once with luinux was to much work didnt like it linux stays for codin only
#1000 [04:53] <kage-ookami> hehe. ok then that jre 6.22 is your VM
#1001 [04:53] <Moonwolf> ah k
#1002 [04:54] <Moonwolf> with VM i associate something like VMware does normaly
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#1005 [04:54] <kage-ookami> no reason to run away...
#1006 [04:54] <Moonwolf> didnt want to -.- hit escape while still in chat not in MC
#1007 [04:55] <kage-ookami> Well it's what makes Java platform independent. It runs a virtual environment for its bytecode :)
#1008 [04:56] <Moonwolf> when u say it like like that i get it (damn should have slept tonight ^^ )
#1009 [04:56] <kage-ookami> Hmm. linux worked allmost out of the box for me. Just get the .jar file, and run it with java -jar Minecraft.jar
#1010 [04:56] <kage-ookami> some coffee could help for an hour or so.
#1011 [04:56] * kage-ookami needs some more coffee as well.
#1011 [04:56] <Moonwolf> yeah already drank 3 tonight couse i killed my 2x4 boxes of MD
#1012 [04:57] <kage-ookami> MD?
#1013 [04:57] <Moonwolf> MountainDew
#1014 [04:58] <kage-ookami> That's some form of softdrink, right?
#1015 [04:58] <Moonwolf> an energy drink yeah and DARE YOU TO NOT KNOW THE BLISSFULL TASTE OF MD xD
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#1019 [05:04] <genshou> kage-ookami, Mountain Dew is a citrus-flavoured soft drink with an abnormally large amount of caffeine compared to say a typical cola.
#1020 [05:04] <Moonwolf> coffe³ +sugar² = ROOOCKS^^
#1021 [05:04] <kage-ookami> Hmm, too bad we don't have that here in Germany. X_X
#1022 [05:05] <Moonwolf> im from germany -.-
#1023 [05:05] <Kealper> holy shit
#1024 [05:05] <Moonwolf> we definitly have ot
#1025 [05:05] <Kealper> do they have rootbeer?
#1026 [05:05] <kage-ookami> well, they don't have it in my usual stores then >,<
#1027 [05:05] <kage-ookami> Seen more of that in Japan.
#1028 [05:05] <kage-ookami> If you know where to look, you can get almost anything I guess - even Japanese 'Beer'
#1029 [05:05] <Moonwolf> rootbear off course not evrywehre but still at some shops or pubs
#1030 [05:06] <Moonwolf> Globus to get MD
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#1032 [05:12] <genshou> time to sleep~
#1033 [05:12] <kage-ookami> おやすみなさい
#1034 [05:12] * genshou-sleeping was falling asleep at the wheel demolishing his bridge... will have to finish in the morning
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#1039 [05:35] <Zauru> Does Hamachi still work for setting up servers in Beta?
#1040 [05:35] <Zauru> I'm trying to set up one, but I keep getting "Disconnected by Server Outdated Server!" when I go to connect to it.
#1041 [05:36] <Zauru> Anyone?
#1042 [05:37] <Moonwolf> well try and download the newest server file from minecraft´.net
#1043 [05:43] * Kealper has returned
#1043 [05:44] <Kealper> !server
#1044 [05:47] <Moonwolf> !client
#1045 [05:47] <kage-ookami> Hi Kealper.
#1046 [05:47] <Moonwolf> nice aubot is usefull after all ^^
#1047 [05:47] <Kealper> lol
#1048 [05:47] <Moonwolf> wb kealper
#1049 [05:47] <Kealper> danke
#1050 [05:49] <Moonwolf> does aubot have something like !commands ?
#1051 [05:49] <Kealper> no, not atm
#1052 [05:50] <Kealper> commands are !server, !client, !check <ip[:port]>, !paid <user>, and uhh...
#1053 [05:50] <Kealper> oh yea.. !motd
#1054 [05:51] <Moonwolf> !motd
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#1056 [05:51] <Kealper> i should add a way to change the motd though without recompiling the module..
#1057 [05:52] <Moonwolf> yeah and maybe something like !help or !commands to get the commands
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#1060 [05:53] <Kealper> i guess i could add it
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#1062 [05:56] <blafmat> I'm setting up a multiplayer server, and need help port forwarding to allow other players to join in ubuntu. Can anyone here help me with that?
#1063 [05:57] <Kealper> have you checked http://portforward.com ?
#1064 [06:00] <blafmat> the program requires windows doesn't it?
#1065 [06:01] <kage-ookami> blafmat: what system is does the firewalling/NAT/Portforwarding? Is it a hardware router, linux box, windowze box?
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#1067 [06:03] <blafmat> I believe it's a hardware router.
#1068 [06:04] <blafmat> err, unless it's my PC you're asking about, in which case it's running ubuntu 10.10 linux
#1069 [06:04] <kage-ookami> then you need to look up portforwarding in your routers handbook.
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#1072 [06:13] <kage-ookami> damn stupid ISP lagging me out again...
#1073 [06:13] <kage-ookami> Gold being so soft... Is there any practical use for it, or is it just for show and building goldblocks?
#1074 [06:15] <Kealper> golden apples
#1075 [06:15] <kage-ookami> never found any apples... >,<
#1076 [06:15] <kage-ookami> well I guess I'll just store it and see if I find some apples.
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#1079 [06:36] <barrycarlyon> Watch! Compass! kage-ookami!
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#1084 [06:54] <Kealper`> disregard me
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#1097 [07:29] <Mushuukyou> so i'm mining this obsidian block with the only diamond pickaxe i own, that's on the floor, and I'm standing over it, ready to dive in to grab my precious obsidian,a nd ...oh.. was that lava I just jumped in?
#1098 [07:30] <Ponti> lol
#1099 [07:30] <Mushuukyou> back to finding more diamond...
#1100 [07:30] <Ponti> you playing alone?
#1101 [07:30] <Mushuukyou> yea
#1102 [07:30] <peru> <Mushuukyou> I'm standing over it
#1103 [07:30] <Mushuukyou> I woudln't mind being on a server
#1104 [07:30] <Mushuukyou> if I knew about it
#1105 [07:30] <Mushuukyou> yea yea I know
#1106 [07:30] <Mushuukyou> that was my mistake
#1107 [07:30] <peru> never mine directly ABOVE or BELOW you
#1108 [07:30] <Ponti> wanna play woth a newbie?
#1109 [07:30] <Mushuukyou> say it
#1110 [07:31] <Mushuukyou> SAY IT
#1111 [07:31] <Mushuukyou> SAY IT AGAIN
#1112 [07:31] <Mushuukyou> sure
#1113 [07:31] <Mushuukyou> I haven't played iwth anyone yet
#1114 [07:31] <Mushuukyou> that's the only downfall to this game compared to wurm
#1115 [07:31] <Ponti> can you voice chat?
#1116 [07:31] <Mushuukyou> yea
#1117 [07:31] <mr_fribble> Yo
#1118 [07:32] <Ponti> ok, now for a server
#1119 [07:32] <mr_fribble> Can anyone here email me their sounds folder? My thing doesnt want to download it :
#1120 [07:36] <Kealper> O.o
#1121 [07:36] <Kealper> is it getting stuck while trying to update?
#1122 [07:36] <mr_fribble> It just totally skips it
#1123 [07:36] <mr_fribble> Like
#1124 [07:36] <mr_fribble> When It starts up, it ignores the fact that the recourse file is empty
#1125 [07:37] <Kealper> go into the bin folder and delete the version file
#1126 [07:37] <mr_fribble> and I just get the minecraft screen, if I hit play, theres no footsteps, or anything
#1127 [07:37] <Kealper> that'll force it to redownload everything
#1128 [07:37] <mr_fribble> alright h/o
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#1131 [07:42] <Tom5001> Hello
#1132 [07:43] <Tom5001> Does anybody know where I can find coal?
#1133 [07:43] <Tom5001> I've been looking for ages..
#1134 [07:43] <Mushuukyou> ponti, i'm going to restart real quick
#1135 [07:43] <LG_Legacy> Caves
#1136 [07:43] <LG_Legacy> Lots of caves.
#1137 [07:43] <LG_Legacy> Sometimes you'll see it sticking out
#1138 [07:44] <Tom5001> I've yet to see a cave :s Only tall mountain things.
#1139 [07:44] <Kealper> yes, best place to find iron and coal would be exploring caves
#1140 [07:44] <Kealper> O.o
#1141 [07:44] <Tom5001> I've been searching all game day.
#1142 [07:44] <Kealper> check around the mountains, there are usually openings to caves there
#1143 [07:44] <LG_Legacy> Dig down
#1144 [07:44] <Tom5001> alright, i'll take a look. thanks
#1145 [07:44] <Tom5001> Needa make everything again
#1146 [07:44] <Tom5001> lol
#1147 [07:46] <Tom5001> Guys, I literally got this game 30 mins ago. For my first survival night should I get ina cave with torches?
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#1149 [07:47] <Kealper> Tom5001: lemme hook you up with a must-watch for beginners
#1150 [07:47] <Kealper> 1 sec
#1151 [07:47] <Kealper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_959953
#1152 [07:47] <Tom5001> Thanks
#1153 [07:48] <Kealper> watch that and you'll be set for the basics of survival
#1154 [07:48] <kage-ookami> Is that paulsoaresjr's Tutorial?
#1155 [07:48] <Kealper> yes
#1156 [07:48] <Ponti> paulsoaresjr is cool
#1157 [07:48] <Kealper> i should add that as a command in AuBot
#1158 [07:48] <kage-ookami> heh. fun to watch AND helpful. First 1-3 is a must. rest is fun.
#1159 [07:49] <kage-ookami> Nice how he digs the redstone in 13 straight down - into lava >,<
#1160 [07:49] <Tom5001> It just says Loading..
#1161 [07:49] <Tom5001> on thay video at the top
#1162 [07:49] <Tom5001> for a long time
#1163 [07:49] <Tom5001> that*
#1164 [07:49] <Kealper> O.o
#1165 [07:49] <Kealper> refresh? youtube might just suck
#1166 [07:50] <kage-ookami> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VWnQHS-ffs <-- try that link if it's still not working.
#1167 [07:52] <Tom5001> works
#1168 [07:52] <Tom5001> thanks :)
#1169 [07:52] <Kealper> hmmmmmmm
#1170 [07:52] <Kealper> that link worked for me :S
#1171 [07:53] <kontroll> Jesus shit @ connecting two pressure plates to the same thing.
#1172 [07:54] <kontroll> Took me a while. :>
#1173 [07:54] <kontroll> But it was fun.
#1174 [07:56] <Kealper> oh, hey i forgot i was adding a !help command lol
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#1176 [07:59] <fogWork> Ugh, forgetting ze glasses at home certainly doesn't help when trying to code
#1177 [08:01] <fogWork> Kealper: go fetch them for me ;P
#1178 [08:02] <Kealper> i'll get right on that lol
#1179 [08:02] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1180 [08:02] <Kealper> !help
#1181 [08:03] <Kealper> !tutorial
#1182 [08:03] * fogWork squints
#1182 [08:03] <Kealper> lol
#1183 [08:03] <Kealper> you know you're getting old when :P
#1184 [08:03] <fogWork> !paid fogWraith
#1185 [08:03] <fogWork> \o/
#1186 [08:04] <Kealper> lemme see if i got this irssi stuff down...
#1187 [08:04] <Ponti> what is the best beta custom server to use?
#1188 [08:05] <Kealper> there is no other server for beta
#1189 [08:05] <Ponti> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Beta_custom_server_list
#1190 [08:05] <fogWork> mineserver \o/
#1191 [08:05] <Kealper> lolwut
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#1193 [08:06] <fogWork> You should stick with the official software imo
#1194 [08:06] <Ponti> which is?
#1195 [08:06] <Ponti> mineserver.jar for linux?
#1196 [08:06] <fogWork> Pretty much, yeah
#1197 [08:06] <fogWork> Or Windows, if you swing that way
#1198 [08:07] * kage-ookami probably needs to change the nick then, for !paid to work >,<
#1198 [08:08] <Kealper> oh....i swing that way...
#1199 [08:08] <fogWork> I know you do :P
#1200 [08:08] <Kealper> context...such a useful thing to have >.>
#1201 [08:12] <fogWork> ... that's not good :|
#1202 [08:12] * fogWork accidently the whole server
#1202 [08:12] <Kealper> the whole server?
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#1204 [08:14] * fogWork huffs
#1204 [08:14] <fogWork> The whole server, yes... luckily it went unnoticed
#1205 [08:14] <Mushuukyou> hey
#1206 [08:15] <Mushuukyou> who was the dude that wanted to play
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#1208 [08:15] <Mushuukyou> hey ponti
#1209 [08:15] <Kealper> eh?
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#1211 [08:15] <Ponti> hey
#1212 [08:15] <Mushuukyou> got my mic workin
#1213 [08:15] <Mushuukyou> not the one I wanted to work but another one
#1214 [08:16] <Mushuukyou> do you have a server
#1215 [08:16] <Ponti> i'm setting up right now
#1216 [08:16] <Mushuukyou> oh no.. local to you? :)
#1217 [08:17] <valuial> [14:15:03] <Mushuukyou> who was the dude that wanted to play <-- [14:08:35] <@Kealper> context...such a useful thing to have >.>
#1218 [08:17] <Kealper> xD
#1219 [08:17] <Mushuukyou> was that from another channel
#1220 [08:17] <Kealper> earlier in this one
#1221 [08:17] <Mushuukyou> oh
#1222 [08:17] <Mushuukyou> context was good brah
#1223 [08:17] <Mushuukyou> bite me
#1224 [08:18] * valuial bites Mushuukyou
#1224 [08:18] <Kealper> lol
#1225 [08:18] <Mushuukyou> how does network play go if you're like, uh, a sea or two away from somebody hosting?
#1226 [08:19] <Kealper> a bit laggy, but still works
#1227 [08:19] <Mushuukyou> is there a list of servers currently open/running
#1228 [08:19] <Kealper> http://servers.minecraftforum.net
#1229 [08:20] * fogWork cringes under segfaults
#1229 [08:21] <kontroll> rofl
#1230 [08:21] <kontroll> Me + buddy are trying to fit a gate somewhere.
#1231 [08:21] <Mjiig> got to love segfaults :)
#1232 [08:21] <kontroll> Whereever we dig we find tunnels and rooms from previous builds.
#1233 [08:21] <kontroll> Our place is SUCH a shoddy build.
#1234 [08:22] <kontroll> Tear down a wall and you are likely to find corpses and torches.
#1235 [08:22] <kontroll> Everywhere.
#1236 [08:22] <Tom5001> yay i survived!
#1237 [08:22] <fogWork> Segfaults are made out of pure undistilled concentrated satan
#1238 [08:22] <valuial> segfaults <-- still better than BSoD
#1239 [08:22] <Kealper> LOL
#1240 [08:23] <Mjiig> segfaults< BSoD, black screen of death and (best of the lot) KERNEL PANIC
#1241 [08:24] <Kealper> is a kernel panic really better than the black screen of death? unless i'm not thinking the same black screen...lol
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#1243 [08:25] <fogWork> ... divide by zero? well, as if that's an improvement
#1244 [08:25] <Mjiig> Kealper: both mean your system is going down
#1245 [08:25] * fogWork squints
#1245 [08:25] <Mjiig> but kernel panic sounds cooler
#1246 [08:25] <Kealper> well, the black screen i'm thinking of is literally just not showing anything...which imo is pretty bad..lol
#1247 [08:26] <Kealper> but yeah, "KERNEL PANIC" looks and sounds cooler than impending crash
#1248 [08:26] <Tom5001> guys
#1249 [08:26] <Tom5001> on other peoples servers
#1250 [08:26] <Tom5001> can others kill you?
#1251 [08:26] <Kealper> with /kill?
#1252 [08:27] <Kealper> or with damage?
#1253 [08:27] <Tom5001> damage
#1254 [08:27] <Kealper> if pvp is enabled on that server
#1255 [08:27] <Kealper> yes
#1256 [08:27] <Mjiig> Kealper: only windows ever had a BlSoD with no text on it :)
#1257 [08:27] <Tom5001> if you joined and its going dark do you just die..
#1258 [08:27] <Tom5001> by monster things
#1259 [08:28] <Tom5001> Or do some servers have a place to go to
#1260 [08:28] <Kealper> i guess i'm too accostomed with windows then lol
#1261 [08:28] <Kealper> Tom5001: if you joined and it's night, dig a hole and cover it, because you'll be screwed otherwise lol
#1262 [08:28] <Juggernaut151|1> Saw 7 is a creepy movies
#1263 [08:28] <Juggernaut151|1> -s*
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#1265 [08:29] <Tom5001> i don't even know how to cover a hole...
#1266 [08:29] <Tom5001> i have my fist
#1267 [08:30] <Tom5001> are the monsters hard to kill
#1268 [08:30] <Tom5001> i had torches in a dug thing last time
#1269 [08:30] <Kealper> dig a hole 3 blocks deep into dirt, collect the dirt, hop in hole, use one peice of dirt to cover top
#1270 [08:31] <Tom5001> thanks
#1271 [08:31] <Tom5001> what would happen if someone else
#1272 [08:31] <Kealper> break dirt if you don't hear stuff above you, and if it's daylight out, it's safe to come out lol
#1273 [08:31] <Tom5001> had a cave with torches
#1274 [08:31] <Tom5001> and you went in there?
#1275 [08:31] <Tom5001> could they do anything
#1276 [08:31] <Kealper> they won't spawn near players or in light.. BUT
#1277 [08:32] <Kealper> they can spawn in dark spots of the cave and walk around in the lit parts
#1278 [08:32] <Kealper> so that is usually semi-safe
#1279 [08:32] <Tom5001> o
#1280 [08:32] <Tom5001> what is safe
#1281 [08:32] <Tom5001> then
#1282 [08:32] <Kealper> a hole in the ground with a cover over it if you can't build a better shelter at the time :P
#1283 [08:32] <Tom5001> lol
#1284 [08:32] <Tom5001> thanks
#1285 [08:33] <Kealper> hmm..irssi has a /voice command
#1286 [08:33] <Kealper> that was simple
#1287 [08:34] <Mjiig> how did you expect it to work?
#1288 [08:34] <Kealper> something more complicated than just /voice user lol
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#1293 [08:39] <findow> hey there, short question, is it somehow possible to connect to a minecraft server when both ppl trying to logg in are in one household and using the same routerp/IP
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#1295 [08:39] <findow> i always get kicked out of the game when my friend trys to logg in
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#1297 [08:39] <Kealper> findow: did both of you buy the game?
#1298 [08:39] <Mjiig> esper kicked me off the network...
#1299 [08:39] <Kealper> O.o
#1300 [08:40] <findow> y we both own the game
#1301 [08:40] <Kealper> says you ping'd out
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#1303 [08:40] <Kealper> findow: set online-mode to = true instead of false in server.properties, and both of you must log in to the game correctly
#1304 [08:41] <Mjiig> odd, mibbit says that esper terminated the connections. ah well
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#1306 [08:41] <findow> that sounds reasonable^^ why is it not working with = false ?
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#1308 [08:42] <Kealper> disabling online mode makes the server just assume everyone who tries to connect is allowed to play
#1309 [08:42] <findow> so whats wrong with that
#1310 [08:42] <Kealper> so if two people try to join without logging in first, their names will both be "player" and a username collision occurs
#1311 [08:42] <kontroll> I need to gather a truckload of obsidian.
#1312 [08:43] <kontroll> And build an obsidian spider statue outside of our place.
#1313 [08:43] <kontroll> Redstone torches for eyes. Mmmmm.
#1314 [08:43] <Mjiig> ...
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#1316 [08:43] <Mjiig> why does it have to be obsidian?
#1317 [08:43] <findow> is it possible to change the namen then somehow?
#1318 [08:43] <findow> *name
#1319 [08:44] <Kealper> are both of you trying to use the same account to log in?
#1320 [08:45] <findow> y my friend's got deactivated due to paypal issues
#1321 [08:45] <Kealper> that's your problem then
#1322 [08:45] <Kealper> using the same account means that your usernames are both the same, causing the collision
#1323 [08:46] <findow> oh ok, and i we're trying offline mode?
#1324 [08:46] <findow> *if
#1325 [08:47] <Kealper> check your PMs
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#1330 [08:58] <aris> Hello
#1331 [08:58] <aris> Oh , does hazenet.co.uk count as a third party?
#1332 [08:59] <aris> Wanted help installing xD
#1333 [08:59] <Kealper> O.o
#1334 [09:00] <Kealper> can't say i know what that is
#1335 [09:00] <Kealper> oh, vps hosting
#1336 [09:01] <aris> Yes
#1337 [09:01] <aris> Its VPS Hosting
#1338 [09:01] <Kealper> what sort of help did you need?
#1339 [09:01] <aris> I really aint sure how to get it working :(
#1340 [09:01] <nipper> I almost went with them for a VPS but I went Fehosting.
#1341 [09:02] <aris> Yeah i cant see any settings etc
#1342 [09:02] <nipper> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=23122
#1343 [09:02] <nipper> read that.
#1344 [09:02] <aris> And i actually put my real site name in there so i fear that they are putting the vps for my site :(
#1345 [09:02] <aris> will do , sec
#1346 [09:03] <nipper> If you use CentOS it will tell you how to do it.
#1347 [09:03] <aris> I already paid for the hazenet vps
#1348 [09:04] <nipper> CentOS is the OS you pick for the VPS
#1349 [09:04] <aris> Ahh
#1350 [09:04] <nipper> They should have given you the option to pick which when buying it.
#1351 [09:05] <aris> They did not
#1352 [09:05] <aris> Ima try downloading it or something
#1353 [09:05] <aris> They just told me ,type domain name , vns or vps name etc
#1354 [09:06] <nipper> Well what package did you pick?
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#1356 [09:06] <Kealper> ooo...a script that sets me as away if i detact screen
#1357 [09:06] <Kealper> i can't type -.-
#1358 [09:09] <aris> I picked 2048 unmetered vps
#1359 [09:09] <aris> should have free basic managements and 2 ips with it
#1360 [09:10] <aris> but ..
#1361 [09:10] <aris> I do not see any options for server related stuff.
#1362 [09:10] <nipper> Well If and when they give it all over to you I will help you set it up.
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#1364 [09:13] <aris> hmm i should have a control panel
#1365 [09:13] <aris> Ima look for it, maybe its somewhere in the menues
#1366 [09:13] <aris> Sec
#1367 [09:15] <aris> Alright found the cpanel
#1368 [09:16] <aris> I had to check my email again.
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#1370 [09:18] <aris> and its centos
#1371 [09:18] <aris> as soon as it works, sec
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#1373 [09:19] <Socolin> is it normal that I have a black screen when I try to play on website ? http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#1374 [09:19] <Socolin> I'm on ubuntu 10.10 firefox java 1.6.0_20
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#1378 [09:25] <smerft> Okay now im confused and need help!
#1379 [09:25] <smerft> Yesterday i started a multiplaying server on the beta version, which i let my friends join! today when i started the server up again to continue playing i got a new map
#1380 [09:25] <smerft> how do i get the old one back? the one we played the entire last day :/
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#1382 [09:32] <smerft> anyone here?
#1383 [09:32] <smerft> I need help :/
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#1386 [09:38] <kontroll> Any reason mine + buddy's portals aren't working?
#1387 [09:41] <Kealper> kontroll: portals don't work in SMP
#1388 [09:41] <Kealper> and time to test this script...
#1389 [09:41] <Kealper> oooo...cool
#1390 [09:42] <Kealper> although that should probably say Kealper[OFF] and not afk...
#1391 [09:42] <smerft> Guys!
#1392 [09:42] <Kealper> smerft!
#1393 [09:42] <kontroll> That's a bit shit, Kealper. :<
#1394 [09:43] <Kealper> it's for good reason though
#1395 [09:43] <smerft> I got a multiplaying server on the beta online and me and my friends play on it, do i have to save it from time to time or something+
#1396 [09:43] <kontroll> We remodeled the staff room to make room for it.
#1397 [09:43] <Kealper> when Notch implements it, portals can also make you jump to different servers
#1398 [09:43] <kontroll> What's that good reason?
#1399 [09:43] <kontroll> o_o
#1400 [09:43] <Kealper> and i've read plans about keeping your current inventory and stuff, aswell
#1401 [09:44] <Kealper> so you could go through a portal and come out on a different server, exactly how you left the old one
#1402 [09:44] <Kealper> smerft: it auto saves
#1403 [09:44] <Kealper> but if you are paranoid, there is save-all
#1404 [09:44] <Kealper> which forces a save
#1405 [09:46] <kontroll> That said, our staff room is bizarrely awesome.
#1406 [09:47] <Kealper> lol
#1407 [09:48] <kontroll> http://dlxmedia.net/staff_room.avi
#1408 [09:49] <Kealper> lol
#1409 [09:51] <kontroll> So awesome.
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#1411 [09:54] <Kealper> http://dlxmedia.net/staff_room.avi
#1412 [09:55] <Kealper> whoops
#1413 [09:55] <Kealper> wrong paste
#1414 [09:55] <kontroll> Where are you whoring that off to? ;P
#1415 [09:55] <Kealper> and wrong everything...
#1416 [09:55] <Kealper> i was trying to copy something else and didn't even copy it right xD
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#1421 [09:59] <mang0> can someone help me please?
#1422 [09:59] <mang0> with old version of minecraft (free, browser based?)
#1423 [09:59] <Kealper> the classic one?
#1424 [10:00] <mang0> yes
#1425 [10:00] <Kealper> ok, what did you need help with?
#1426 [10:00] <mang0> i signed up on the minecraft website
#1427 [10:00] <mang0> fine.
#1428 [10:00] <mang0> then
#1429 [10:02] <mang0> i went to play the classic minecraft which is browser based, and every server i join tells me that mincraft cant play as Pixel format is not accelarated.......
#1430 [10:02] <Kealper> how old is your computer?
#1431 [10:03] <mang0> its win xp service pack 2 or 3, and 1gb ram
#1432 [10:03] <mang0> im not sure how old
#1433 [10:03] <Kealper> right then. do you know if your graphics drivers are up to date?
#1434 [10:03] <mang0> they are
#1435 [10:03] <mang0> im pretty sure
#1436 [10:04] <mang0> java has an update
#1437 [10:04] <mang0> shall i update it?
#1438 [10:04] <Kealper> indeed
#1439 [10:04] <mang0> right brb
#1440 [10:05] <mang0> i have to sut irc to update i will brb
#1441 [10:06] * Kealper waits
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#1442 [10:07] <mang0> right java is updated let me try to play again
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#1444 [10:08] <mang0> same error as before
#1445 [10:08] <Kealper> :/
#1446 [10:08] <mang0> :/
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#1449 [10:09] <mang0> soz firefox just quit
#1450 [10:09] <Kealper> usually that error means that your graphics chipset does not support the stuff needed to play minecraft, or your drivers need updating
#1451 [10:10] <mang0> ;__;
#1452 [10:10] <mang0> i need to play minecraft ;__;
#1453 [10:10] <Kealper> :S
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#1455 [10:11] <Hurp> Hey, one question; Can someone email me their sounds or resources file? My version doesnt seem to want to download it. :/
#1456 [10:11] <Kealper> you tried reinstalling minecraft?
#1457 [10:12] <Hurp> I tried
#1458 [10:12] <Hurp> I came here earlier
#1459 [10:12] <Hurp> someone told me to delete the Version folder too
#1460 [10:12] <Kealper> i remember, and that was me
#1461 [10:12] <Hurp> I tried that, but nothing happened
#1462 [10:12] <Kealper> it didn't try redownloading minecraft?
#1463 [10:13] <Hurp> Well, It did, and I could run it again, but it still didnt download the resources or audio, whichever has the sounds folder in it.
#1464 [10:13] <Kealper> O.o
#1465 [10:13] <Hurp> Yeah, Its strange. First I had the Fatal Error (4)
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#1467 [10:14] <Hurp> Now Its not using any Audio. The game plays perfectly.
#1468 [10:14] <Hurp> Its just theres so sounds, which is bad for night time :P
#1469 [10:14] <Kealper> sec...
#1470 [10:15] <Kealper> do you have winrar?
#1471 [10:15] <Hurp> I do
#1472 [10:15] <Hurp> But I cant go onto any file sharing sites
#1473 [10:15] <Hurp> My D-Link's anti-virus blows up whenever I try.
#1474 [10:15] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/resources.rar tell me when you download it so i can delete it
#1475 [10:16] <Hurp> It says 8 minutes
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#1477 [10:16] <Kealper> hmm....that's nice and slow
#1478 [10:16] <Hurp> Sorry :/
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#1480 [10:17] <Hurp> I get all of 60/kbs lawl.
#1481 [10:18] <Kealper> is that normal for your downloads? lol
#1482 [10:19] <Hurp> Yeah, AT&T refuses to upgrade my plan. :/
#1483 [10:19] <Kealper> :/
#1484 [10:19] <Hurp> Bad idea for them, I mean, they make more money if they do.. >_>
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#1487 [10:23] <valuial> similar problem here - after 5GB/month they slow me down to a snails pace. Without the option to buy extra until the next month starts -.- KDE updates usually kill quite some part of that quota.
#1488 [10:24] <Hurp> Awesome, Its downloaded, Kealper.
#1489 [10:24] <Kealper> 5gb/mo? holy crap i use more bandwidth than that just browsing reddit
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#1491 [10:25] <mang0> lol
#1492 [10:26] <Hurp> Hmm That didnt seem to work :/
#1493 [10:26] <Kealper> O.o
#1494 [10:27] <Kealper> is your sound muted ingame?
#1495 [10:27] <Hurp> Nope
#1496 [10:28] <Hurp> 100%
#1497 [10:28] <mang0> try pressing "unmute"
#1498 [10:28] <mang0> on keyboard
#1499 [10:28] <Hurp> Everything is set
#1500 [10:28] <valuial> Well, I'm not realy earning the big money at the time, so I just took the cheapest :P
#1501 [10:28] <Hurp> it should work
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#1503 [10:30] <Hurp> AHA
#1504 [10:30] <Hurp> There we go
#1505 [10:30] <Hurp> Lets see how long this lasts :P
#1506 [10:30] <valuial> let me guess: alsa fucking up the volume levels again? :P#
#1507 [10:32] <Hurp> My headphones must have glitched or something, It was playing on really low volume out the speakers instead of the headphones, while the headphones were playing iTunes and Windows noises... Sigh. I'll never understand computers.
#1508 [10:33] <Kealper> lol
#1509 [10:43] <kontroll> :<
#1510 [10:44] <kontroll> Fucker set fire to my wool wall.
#1511 [10:44] <kontroll> Inferno.
#1512 [10:44] <Kealper> O.o
#1513 [10:44] <kontroll> What?
#1514 [10:44] <kontroll> Never had a wool wall?
#1515 [10:44] <Kealper> what set fire to a wall?
#1516 [10:44] <kontroll> My "friend".
#1517 [10:44] <Kealper> and no i've never had a wool wall lol
#1518 [10:45] <kontroll> The same one who set off tons of TNT while I was in a fucking cave.
#1519 [10:45] <Kealper> O.o
#1520 [10:45] <kontroll> We had /give stuff to beta test railroads.
#1521 [10:45] <kontroll> Inside a cave.
#1522 [10:46] <kontroll> And then I was like "Well, let's get rid of it! /give explosives in vast amounts!"
#1523 [10:46] <kontroll> We filled the place.
#1524 [10:46] <kontroll> He "placed one wrong" and was trying to pick it up.
#1525 [10:46] <valuial> can't pick up TNT...
#1526 [10:47] <kontroll> I knew that.
#1527 [10:47] <kontroll> He "didn't".
#1528 [10:47] <kontroll> I perished.
#1529 [10:47] <valuial> heh. must've been fun, going nova like that :P
#1530 [10:48] <kontroll> WELL
#1531 [10:48] <kontroll> I was huddling in the end.
#1532 [10:48] <kontroll> Hoping to avoid my end... watching the explosions approach.
#1533 [10:48] <Kealper> i went nova once....it was entertaining...and crashed the server after taking about 5 min to explode
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#1535 [10:49] * valuial remembers the fun times, crashing UO-rpg servers...
#1535 [10:49] <Kealper> lol
#1536 [10:51] <valuial> well - you could walk through portals between the two clicks of left-upper and right-lower corner when filling an area with items... no server managed to create a few million coins at once...
#1537 [10:53] <chief1983> are there any world recovery tools? My PC crashed mid game, and the active world isn't showing up in Minecraft anymore, but all the files seem to be present. Any way I might be able to recover it?
#1538 [10:55] <Kealper> probably not :S
#1539 [10:57] <chief1983> know what prevents minecraft from displaying it?
#1540 [10:57] <Kealper> corrupt level.dat
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#1544 [11:08] <smerft> whats the id for diamond? ;D
#1545 [11:11] <Mikau> Game ruiner :(
#1546 [11:11] <Kealper> :/
#1547 [11:11] <Kealper> wiki
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#1553 [11:39] <braxton> Hey, is the person who played on my server last night here?
#1554 [11:39] <braxton> Your IGN was Kouken...
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#1556 [11:45] <CruelNoise> hi
#1557 [11:45] <CruelNoise> What's an IGN?
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#1559 [11:46] <feenyx> CruelNoise: in-game-name
#1560 [11:46] <CruelNoise> interesting
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#1564 [12:02] <zsigma1> o_O after the update i can no longer play minecraft... I only get a black screen. Anyone know how to fix this?
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#1566 [12:03] <braxton> !check bluecraft.dyndns.org
#1567 [12:03] <braxton> Oops, forgot to start server
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#1569 [12:07] <Moonwolf> !check moonmc.dyndns-ip.com
#1570 [12:07] <Moonwolf> !check moonmc.dyndns.org
#1571 [12:09] <braxton> !check bluecraft.dyndns.org
#1572 [12:10] <braxton> AuBot is so dumb.
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#1574 [12:11] <Moonwolf> no mcserver is dumb -.-
#1575 [12:11] <venjo> Hey all. maybe can help me with an problem in ubuntu.
#1576 [12:11] <venjo> somebody*
#1577 [12:12] <venjo> When i start minecraft in ubuntu, my volume is changing, and i cant play in fullscreen.
#1578 [12:13] <feenyx> there are people in here who could probably help you with that, but I've not experienced that particular problem myself. However, feel free to hang out until you get an answer :)
#1579 [12:13] <venjo> thanks ;)
#1580 [12:14] <venjo> cuz i bought the game today, and i don't like to start my windows partition... :(
#1581 [12:14] <Auv5> I can do fullscreen in Ubuntu just fine.
#1582 [12:14] <venjo> in a other ubuntu laptop it works fine
#1583 [12:14] <Auv5> In KDE, GNOME and X
#1584 [12:14] <venjo> hmmm
#1585 [12:14] <venjo> it's just with this laptop
#1586 [12:14] <venjo> it's an hp pavillion wit touchscreen...
#1587 [12:15] <venjo> when i use the touchscreen i can play a little bit
#1588 [12:15] <Auv5> Have you tried it with Windows?
#1589 [12:15] <venjo> yep
#1590 [12:15] <venjo> no probs
#1591 [12:15] <Auv5> Weird.
#1592 [12:15] <venjo> mhm..
#1593 [12:15] <venjo> duno if it is a java problem
#1594 [12:15] <Auv5> Can you run other Java apps in fullscreen?
#1595 [12:16] <venjo> hmmm, when you can say me one to test it, ill try it
#1596 [12:16] <venjo> (i reinstalled linux mint today)
#1597 [12:16] <venjo> i deinstalled icedtea and openjdk
#1598 [12:16] <venjo> and installed sun java
#1599 [12:17] <venjo> i think the problem is not the fullscreen. cuz, when i press F11 the fullscreen loads. but after a second it closes instantly, cuz the volume bar on my laptop is touched (but i dont touch anything)
#1600 [12:20] <venjo> i dont know how to disable my volume bar, maybe it will help
#1601 [12:20] <venjo> and the problem is in browser, and in the downloaded version
#1602 [12:21] <venjo> and in classic, and beta version
#1603 [12:21] <zsigma1> after downloading the update, i cant run minecraft :'(
#1604 [12:22] <zsigma1> it loads but then the screen turns black
#1605 [12:22] <zsigma1> anyone here knows why?
#1606 [12:23] <zsigma1> anyone here?
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#1609 [12:24] <venjo> hmmm.. now i was stuck in classic mode...
#1610 [12:24] <zsigma1> can you play the other modes?
#1611 [12:24] <zsigma1> i cannot play anything atm
#1612 [12:24] <venjo> hmmm i cant "play"
#1613 [12:25] <venjo> i was now stuck in classic mode
#1614 [12:25] <zsigma1> on my comp the screen goes black and in browser it just says "done loading" but never gets past that :(
#1615 [12:25] <venjo> hmm i don't have this problem
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#1617 [12:26] <zsigma1> hmm
#1618 [12:26] <zsigma1> i have tried rebooting and redownloading minecraft
#1619 [12:26] <zsigma1> nothing seems to work tho
#1620 [12:26] <venjo> newest java installed?
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#1622 [12:27] <Corralx> hi, anyone familiar whit the minecraft protocol?
#1623 [12:27] <zsigma1> yep
#1624 [12:27] <zsigma1> was @venjo
#1625 [12:28] <zsigma1> hmm ill try reinstall java... maybe that will help
#1626 [12:32] <braxton> Will someone help me test my server please? :D
#1627 [12:32] <braxton> AuBot is wrong.
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#1637 [13:00] <Kyaw> Hello?
#1638 [13:01] <xales> hello
#1639 [13:01] <Kyaw> i cant connect to my own server :L
#1640 [13:02] <xales> what IP are you trying to use?
#1641 [13:02] <Kyaw> it was running smoothly the past days
#1642 [13:02] <Kyaw> got hmod and that ran fine too
#1643 [13:03] <Kyaw> trying to connect using my externalip:port
#1644 [13:03] <Kyaw> external ip : port
#1645 [13:03] <xales> your local IP may have changed
#1646 [13:03] <xales> try redoing the port forward
#1647 [13:04] <Kyaw> oh shit, it has changed, damn dynamic ips
#1648 [13:04] <Kyaw> thank you for the help!
#1649 [13:05] <xales> yw
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#1652 [13:17] <Moonwolf> !check moonmc.dyndns-ip.com
#1653 [13:17] <Moonwolf> whoohoo
#1654 [13:18] <xales> Kealper[OFF]:
#1655 [13:18] <xales> !check wikileaks.org
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#1657 [13:21] <valuial> !check wikileaks.org:80
#1658 [13:21] * valuial broke the bot -.-
#1658 [13:22] <xales> lol
#1659 [13:22] <xales> !check localhost:80\
#1660 [13:22] <xales> !check localhost:22
#1661 [13:22] <xales> !check localhost:25
#1662 [13:23] <fogWraith> Mailserver caught the bot off guard!
#1663 [13:23] <xales> lol
#1664 [13:24] <valuial> *groan* AuBot, you're kidding... Just checking if the TCP port get's opened?
#1665 [13:24] <valuial> fogWraith: wikileaks webserver took a few minutes as well.
#1666 [13:24] <fogWraith> !paid xales
#1667 [13:24] <fogWraith> ;O
#1668 [13:24] <xales> !paid yourmother
#1669 [13:24] <valuial> !paid AuBot
#1670 [13:24] <xales> !paid Your mother
#1671 [13:25] <xales> !paid Your mother
#1672 [13:25] <xales> :P
#1673 [13:25] <valuial> wow, he realizes I checked the bot's payment status -.-
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#1675 [13:26] <xales> !paid I am a dumb bot, and you
#1676 [13:26] <xales> lol
#1677 [13:27] <valuial> fail
#1678 [13:30] <CruelNoise> !paid me
#1679 [13:30] <CruelNoise> yay!
#1680 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> !paid greyvulpine
#1681 [13:31] * GreyVulpine snickers
#1681 [13:31] <valuial> !paid Bill Gates
#1682 [13:31] <xales> lol grey
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#1684 [13:32] <dannyboy> hi people
#1685 [13:32] <xales> hello
#1686 [13:32] <dannyboy> i know this is a help channel but do you guys help with mods?
#1687 [13:33] <dannyboy> :l
#1688 [13:33] <xales> depends on what mod
#1689 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Officially, no. What kinda help do you need?
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#1691 [13:34] <dannyboy> well
#1692 [13:34] <dannyboy> i tried to install a flying mod
#1693 [13:34] <dannyboy> to explore the world faster
#1694 [13:34] <dannyboy> well i tried to install 3 at once
#1695 [13:34] <dannyboy> so i could fly
#1696 [13:34] <dannyboy> control minecarts
#1697 [13:34] <dannyboy> and
#1698 [13:34] <dannyboy> set my spawn point
#1699 [13:34] <dannyboy> in the game
#1700 [13:35] <dannyboy> and
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#1702 [13:35] <dannyboy> i followed the instructions carefully
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#1704 [13:35] <dannyboy> and what happens is it says updating minecraft
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#1706 [13:35] <dannyboy> and when its about 99 percent
#1707 [13:35] <dannyboy> it freezes
#1708 [13:35] <dannyboy> and thats all
#1709 [13:35] <dannyboy> ...
#1710 [13:35] * GreyVulpine nods, "One of the mods is screwing up"
#1710 [13:36] <mib_po15xo> how do I get minecraft playable on linux
#1711 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> !client
#1712 [13:36] <xales> mib_po15xo: you just have to download it
#1713 [13:36] <xales> and run it
#1714 [13:37] <mib_po15xo> it doesnt run right out of the download
#1715 [13:37] <mib_po15xo> i feel retarded
#1716 [13:37] <mib_po15xo> lol
#1717 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_po15xo - Does it give you any error messages?
#1718 [13:37] <xales> what happens when you try to run it, and what distro of linux
#1719 [13:37] <mib_po15xo> mandriva
#1720 [13:38] <mib_po15xo> and no error i just need to know how to make java run it as an executable
#1721 [13:38] <xales> java -jar (filename)
#1722 [13:38] <mib_po15xo> im newish at the linux thing, Ill try that
#1723 [13:39] <mib_po15xo> ive always got mad at linux and quit before learning to far into it
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#1727 [13:48] <mib_po15xo> what would be the main jar file
#1728 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.jar, the one you downloaded
#1729 [13:49] <mib_po15xo> it tells me its unable to access
#1730 [13:49] <xales> what exactly does it say
#1731 [13:49] <xales> paste it on pastebin
#1732 [13:49] <xales> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com
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#1734 [13:50] <mib_po15xo> Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
#1735 [13:50] <xales> try Minecraft.jar
#1736 [13:51] <mib_po15xo> Unable to access jarfile Minecraft.jar
#1737 [13:51] <xales> is the jarfile in that directory?
#1738 [13:51] <mib_po15xo> i really feel worthless right now
#1739 [13:52] <Soulcito> how do i get a million res nodes?
#1740 [13:52] <xales> Soulcito: what?
#1741 [13:52] <Soulcito> nothing, nevermind
#1742 [13:52] <mib_po15xo> thank you i figured it out
#1743 [13:52] <peru_> what is the cheat code in survival single player for iron or diamond?
#1744 [13:53] <Soulcito> o_O
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#1746 [13:53] <peru_> yeah.. im lazy lol
#1747 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> There isn't a cheat code
#1748 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Use an inventory editor
#1749 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> google for InvEdit
#1750 [13:54] <peru_> thank you!
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#1753 [13:57] <Mushuukyou> diamond picks better than obsidian?
#1754 [13:57] <Miner123> black screen of death after loading is done, what to do?
#1755 [13:58] <Miner123> upon login
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#1757 [14:12] <Miner123> anyone?
#1758 [14:12] <ZerOmega> what?
#1759 [14:13] <Miner123> I have the classic black screen upon log in problem
#1760 [14:13] <ZerOmega> log in into what?
#1761 [14:14] <Miner123> minecraft
#1762 [14:15] <ZerOmega> ah, sorry. I though this was a wrong window :)
#1763 [14:15] <ZerOmega> Are you using a browser?
#1764 [14:15] <Miner123> nope
#1765 [14:15] <ZerOmega> would you like to try it?
#1766 [14:15] <Miner123> and I've tried lot's of stuff
#1767 [14:16] <Miner123> tried replacing the graphics engine library thingy
#1768 [14:16] <Miner123> tried reinstalling
#1769 [14:16] <ZerOmega> http://www.minecraft.net/game/ <--- try playing it through here
#1770 [14:16] <Miner123> same thing
#1771 [14:17] <ZerOmega> have you tried upgrading java?
#1772 [14:18] <Miner123> twice
#1773 [14:18] <ZerOmega> ouch
#1774 [14:18] <Miner123> yeah
#1775 [14:18] <Miner123> It plays just fine on my tower
#1776 [14:18] <Miner123> but not on my laptop :(
#1777 [14:18] <ZerOmega> well, I'm out of ideas. Maybe a sacrificial goat is in order
#1778 [14:19] <Miner123> do you know how to run it in diagnostic mode or something?
#1779 [14:19] <valuial> ZerOmega: if the goat doesn't work, try a virgin. They usually work when nothing else dose ;)
#1780 [14:20] <ZerOmega> valuial: Cutting your own wrists is sorta hazardious job
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#1782 [14:20] <ZerOmega> oh you mean virgin MAIDEN
#1783 [14:20] <ZerOmega> duh
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#1785 [14:20] <mang0> help!
#1786 [14:21] <ZerOmega> Miner123: Sorry, that goes a bit over my abilities
#1787 [14:21] <ZerOmega> Mang0: Financial help?
#1788 [14:21] <mang0> no
#1789 [14:21] <valuial> Money? Here! Here is always a lack of it.
#1790 [14:21] <mang0> i try to run the "original" minecraft in my browser, and i get the error message: org.lwjgl.LWJGLExeption: Pixel format not accelerated
#1791 [14:22] <valuial> I guess you need newer/correct graphic drivers.
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#1793 [14:23] <Mushuukyou> Is an obsidian pick better than a diamond?
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#1795 [14:24] <braxton> You can't make obsidian picks.
#1796 [14:24] <Mushuukyou> oh
#1797 [14:24] <Mushuukyou> :(
#1798 [14:24] <braxton> Sorry :C
#1799 [14:24] <genshou-sleeping> Obsidian is only used as a building material. :C
#1800 [14:24] <Mushuukyou> I thought if I got an obsidian pick, I could just THINK about hitting a rock and it'd be gone.
#1801 [14:24] <iSpartan> ?
#1802 [14:25] <genshou-sleeping> Isn't diamond fast enough already? >_>;
#1803 [14:25] <Mushuukyou> ok :P
#1804 [14:25] <iSpartan> Oh
#1805 [14:25] <Mushuukyou> No, I want to will it with my mind.
#1806 [14:25] <iSpartan> Hey guys, im here to help people =P
#1807 [14:25] <iSpartan> Brb.
#1808 [14:25] <Mushuukyou> Here's here to help, but he's gone.
#1809 [14:26] <genshou-sleeping> owo
#1810 [14:26] <genshou-sleeping> I hate when someone who uses a foreign language on YouTube subscribes or comments
#1811 [14:26] <ZerOmega> genshou: why?
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#1813 [14:26] <genshou-sleeping> I get an email in a random unrecognizable format D:
#1814 [14:26] <iSpartan> Im here lol.
#1815 [14:26] <iSpartan> I just purchased minecraft but I was here during alpha ;_;'
#1816 [14:26] <genshou-sleeping> even though their comment is usually in English ;-;
#1817 [14:26] <iSpartan> Mom told me to wait until Christmas to get it.
#1818 [14:26] <Mushuukyou> Yea, I wish everyone would learn English already.
#1819 [14:27] <genshou-sleeping> I don't like English >O<
#1820 [14:27] <mang0> valuial how do i update my graphics card drivers?
#1821 [14:27] <iSpartan> Umm
#1822 [14:27] <ZerOmega> English is easy enough
#1823 [14:27] <Mushuukyou> Well too bad! Learn it so I don't have to learn anohter language!
#1824 [14:27] <Mushuukyou> :)
#1825 [14:27] <iSpartan> How do you update your graphics card drivers?
#1826 [14:27] <genshou-sleeping> mang0, Nvidia or ATI?
#1827 [14:27] <iSpartan> Hold on ill give you a link mang0
#1828 [14:27] <valuial> mang0: that depends on your OS, which card etc.
#1829 [14:27] <iSpartan> Wait
#1830 [14:27] <iSpartan> What's your Operation System?
#1831 [14:27] <genshou-sleeping> Mac, PC, or Linux (and if Linux, what build)?
#1832 [14:27] <iSpartan> Windows 7, Vista, Mac ect...?
#1833 [14:28] <valuial> genshou-sleeping: Linux runs on PCs as well... >,<
#1834 [14:28] <mang0> Nvida
#1835 [14:28] <mang0> let me give you mah specs
#1836 [14:28] <iSpartan> Weird, my skin does not change.
#1837 [14:28] <genshou-sleeping> valuial, true, but most people with Linux prefer to separate themselves from typical PC users :>
#1838 [14:28] <Mushuukyou> I would *LOVE* to use Linux only
#1839 [14:28] <iSpartan> Im not a typical PC user.
#1840 [14:29] <Mushuukyou> however, all games are made on PC
#1841 [14:29] <Mushuukyou> so
#1842 [14:29] <Mushuukyou> until they start doing linux only then.. nope
#1843 [14:29] <iSpartan> I AM PC.
#1844 [14:29] <mang0> Win XP, service pack 3, Nvida
#1845 [14:29] <mang0> iSpartan
#1846 [14:29] <Mushuukyou> man, upgrade to Win7
#1847 [14:29] <genshou-sleeping> Relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-22EpQOm8c
#1848 [14:29] <mang0> link?
#1849 [14:29] <iSpartan> Oh.
#1850 [14:29] <iSpartan> Windows XP?
#1851 [14:29] * valuial knows enough games that run on linux to avoid 'The Virus'
#1851 [14:29] <iSpartan> Okay hold on.
#1852 [14:30] <braxton> !check bluecraft.dyndns.org
#1853 [14:30] <mang0> mushuukyou i dont want to upgrade lol
#1854 [14:30] <braxton> YESH
#1855 [14:30] <braxton> mang0: Are you busy?
#1856 [14:30] <mang0> no
#1857 [14:31] <mang0> why?
#1858 [14:31] <braxton> Can you please try to connect to my server?
#1859 [14:31] <Mushuukyou> why not?
#1860 [14:31] <Mushuukyou> Don't you have at least 2gig RA?
#1861 [14:31] <genshou-sleeping> Do you know your exact model of video card, mang0?
#1862 [14:31] <Mushuukyou> er, RAM?
#1863 [14:31] <iSpartan> mango0
#1864 [14:31] <braxton> I would like to test its connectivity :D
#1865 [14:31] <iSpartan> Mang0
#1866 [14:31] <mang0> cuz i have no money
#1867 [14:31] <iSpartan> Try...? http://xpdrivers.com/video-card/nvidia/_3_2693.cfm?gclid=CNW6n--VjaYCFUdX2godYgy7YQ
#1868 [14:31] <mang0> yes genshou-sleeping
#1869 [14:31] <genshou-sleeping> Go to Nvidia's website and download it then ;>
#1870 [14:31] <Mushuukyou> mang, it ..uh.. well.. doesn't..er... I'll msg you :P
#1871 [14:32] <mang0> Nvida Ge-Force FX 5200
#1872 [14:32] <braxton> mang0: Are you going to test it for me? c;
#1873 [14:32] <mang0> i cant
#1874 [14:32] <braxton> Aw, man.
#1875 [14:32] <mang0> i dont have minecraft
#1876 [14:32] <mang0> hehe
#1877 [14:32] <braxton> Will someone test my server then?
#1878 [14:32] <braxton> Please?
#1879 [14:32] <iSpartan> Lol.
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#1881 [14:32] <genshou-sleeping> lol?
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#1883 [14:33] <genshou> braxton, if you'll walk me through the steps since I haven't touched smp yet xD
#1884 [14:33] <iSpartan> Ummm.
#1885 [14:34] <iSpartan> If anyone needs me, im going to the #minecraft IRC.
#1886 [14:34] <genshou> post or PM the IP of your server?
#1887 [14:35] <genshou> mang0, hrm, FX 5200... is that one of their really old lines of cards? Like, was considered a lower-end card 4 years ago? Or am I getting my numbers mixed up? ><
#1888 [14:35] <braxton> genshou: bluecraft.dyndns.org
#1889 [14:35] <genshou> Oh, I thought I had to actually enter an IP
#1890 [14:35] <genshou> like in most games :P
#1891 [14:35] <braxton> Nope, I used dyndns :D
#1892 [14:36] <mang0> nope your right
#1893 [14:36] <mang0> i think
#1894 [14:36] <genshou> boo, slow internet is slow
#1895 [14:36] <mang0> i am getting a new card soon
#1896 [14:36] <genshou> but yeah, I'm bouncing around on some island (or part of the mainland maybe, it hasn't fully loaded)
#1897 [14:37] <genshou> wtf
#1898 [14:37] <genshou> I hit T to open the dialogue
#1899 [14:37] <genshou> now I can't close it
#1900 [14:37] <genshou> I would have assumed Enter key would send the text :v
#1901 [14:39] <genshou> I would assume press Enter to send the text, Esc to cancel out without sending the message?
#1902 [14:39] <genshou> neither one seems to do anything, so now I'm stuck immobile on your server because I can't move while chatting ><;
#1903 [14:40] <braxton> Yes, that's how it works....
#1904 [14:40] <braxton> Whoops, incorrect ellipsis.
#1905 [14:40] <genshou> Hmm, something on my end
#1906 [14:40] <braxton> Yeah, that all sounds right. I wonder why you weren't able to get out of the dialogue.
#1907 [14:40] <braxton> Yep :V
#1908 [14:40] <genshou> because now Esc doesn't work in single player either
#1909 [14:41] <genshou> could be related to the fact that my antivirus was updating itself during that time... guess I'll reboot <_<
#1910 [14:41] <braxton> Yep
#1911 [14:42] <genshou> I can't think of any reason why an antivirus software being updated would need to disable the Esc and Enter keys, but bleh
#1912 [14:42] <genshou> that's Winblows for ya
#1913 [14:42] <genshou> mang0, when my video card died last month I went online and bought a $75 card from Newegg
#1914 [14:42] <braxton> I'm sowwy
#1915 [14:43] <genshou> it performs nearly as well as the card I bought for $500 in early 2007. :D
#1916 [14:43] <mang0> ok
#1917 [14:43] <mang0> lol
#1918 [14:43] <mang0> brb
#1919 [14:43] <genshou> I do get framerate issues in Minecraft when I'm staring straight down while walking near my mine shaft
#1920 [14:44] <genshou> Other than that I only see lag when I am generating new chunks during exploration
#1921 [14:45] * genshou tries the server again >.>
#1921 [14:45] <Mushuukyou> I got some unplayable chunks during certain areas of the map, but I think it's because I'm using an i7 processor
#1922 [14:45] <Mushuukyou> the servers seem really ghey
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#1924 [14:47] <Coll> yeah well genshou linsucks and macsacks
#1925 [14:48] <genshou> wtf? xD
#1926 [14:48] <Coll> :)
#1927 [14:48] <genshou> No, all computers suck
#1928 [14:48] <genshou> :D
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#1931 [14:57] <valuial> Meh - what am I doing wrong? I got 4 full stacks of redrock, but only 2 tiny gems of diamond... not even enough to make a pick...
#1932 [15:01] <Mushuukyou> geezus, how much of the world do I have to break up to find diamond
#1933 [15:01] <Kealper> dig deep....about 50 spaces or so below sea level
#1934 [15:02] <Mushuukyou> I'm at the black rock
#1935 [15:02] <Mushuukyou> and lava
#1936 [15:02] <Mushuukyou> I found like, 4 diamond
#1937 [15:02] <Mushuukyou> but I can't find anymore
#1938 [15:02] <Kealper> :/
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#1941 [15:05] <iSpartan> =\
#1942 [15:05] <valuial> .. redrock ... AGAIN ... why o why can't I find diamond...
#1943 [15:09] <genshou> Are you near bedrock?
#1944 [15:10] <valuial> yes, I just went up a little to avoid the lava...
#1945 [15:10] <valuial> not that I don't find caverns with lava... but I don't dig into it from below anymore -.-
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#1948 [15:14] <zsigma> i have a minecraft problem. Everytime i launch minecraft i get the intro, but when i log on i get a "done loading" for a fraction of a second then black screen
#1949 [15:14] <zsigma> anyone here able to help?
#1950 [15:14] <bobingabout> hmmm
#1951 [15:14] <bobingabout> is this your first time loading minecraft, or after updating it?
#1952 [15:14] <zsigma> after updating
#1953 [15:15] <zsigma> i could play before
#1954 [15:15] <bobingabout> perhaps it got corupt during a download, maybe incompleted download
#1955 [15:15] <bobingabout> what OS are you running?
#1956 [15:15] <zsigma> xp sp3
#1957 [15:15] <zsigma> but i redownloaded it again
#1958 [15:15] <zsigma> and it still wont work
#1959 [15:15] <zsigma> also reinstalled java
#1960 [15:15] <bobingabout> hmmm, redownloading it should fix it
#1961 [15:16] <zsigma> yep
#1962 [15:16] <zsigma> but it didnt
#1963 [15:16] <bobingabout> was the last time you played in Alpha?
#1964 [15:16] <zsigma> i still get the login-screen, but when i log in i get black screen
#1965 [15:16] <zsigma> no
#1966 [15:16] <zsigma> was yesterday -.-
#1967 [15:16] <bobingabout> i don't know then
#1968 [15:16] <zsigma> its really weird
#1969 [15:17] <zsigma> do you know where i could post this in a forum or something?
#1970 [15:17] <bobingabout> i dunno, i came here for help too
#1971 [15:17] <zsigma> :)
#1972 [15:17] <zsigma> its the help channel alright
#1973 [15:17] <valuial> um - it's not a corrupt savefile or something?
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#1975 [15:17] <zsigma> but only ppl asking for help
#1976 [15:18] <zsigma> eerm i dont know
#1977 [15:18] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> hey guys!
#1978 [15:18] <zsigma> i dont even know where the saves are stored
#1979 [15:18] <zsigma> hey
#1980 [15:18] <valuial> linux, pc or mac?
#1981 [15:18] <Kealper> %appdata%\.minecraft\saves
#1982 [15:18] <bobingabout> if you don't know where the saves are stored, you can't have deleted the downloaded data to re-download it
#1983 [15:18] <zsigma> ty
#1984 [15:18] <zsigma> pc xp sp3
#1985 [15:19] <valuial> well - as Kealper said, in %appdata%\.minecraft you will find your stuff - backup the folder and try without?
#1986 [15:19] <bobingabout> go to your application data folder, C:\documents and settings\username\application data\.minecraft
#1987 [15:19] <bobingabout> and delete everything but your saves folder
#1988 [15:19] <bobingabout> then when you run minecraft, it'll redownload it
#1989 [15:19] <zsigma> ok ill try thank your
#1990 [15:20] <zsigma> *you
#1991 [15:20] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> also, to avoid future problems, delete system 32 zsigma.
#1992 [15:20] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> it's in your windows folder
#1993 [15:20] <bobingabout> and if you still have problems, you'll have to delete everything, even the saves golder
#1994 [15:20] <zsigma> haha
#1995 [15:20] <bobingabout> don't delete system32... that will make windows stop working
#1996 [15:20] <zsigma> i know
#1997 [15:21] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> NONSENSE
#1998 [15:21] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> LIES AND SLANDER
#1999 [15:21] <zsigma> caps off pls
#2000 [15:21] <bobingabout> though, i think the only fix for my problem would be to delete everything on the hard drive
#2001 [15:21] <bobingabout> then start again by re-installing windows
#2002 [15:21] <Kealper> isn't libel the written one?
#2003 [15:21] <zsigma> what is your problem?
#2004 [15:21] <valuial> solution to al windoze problems: format c: then ask your sysadmin for a decent OS
#2005 [15:22] <bobingabout> X3
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#2007 [15:22] <zsigma> haha
#2008 [15:22] <zsigma> @ valuial i have an ubuntu computer too
#2009 [15:22] <zsigma> however i cannot run the programs i need for my study on it
#2010 [15:22] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> NORTH KOREA BEST KOREA
#2011 [15:22] <Kealper> i do believe he said decent OS :S
#2012 [15:22] <valuial> zsigma: that's only marginally better. at least you got an OS, not a virus there...
#2013 [15:22] <zsigma> so im forced -.-
#2014 [15:23] <bobingabout> what would be the best minimalistic GUI linux to start as a dedicated minecraft server, without permanant screen, keyboard or mouse?
#2015 [15:23] <Kealper> ok creep, you can press the caps lock key again
#2016 [15:23] <zsigma> what should i get valuial then?
#2017 [15:23] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> kealper why you hatin bro
#2018 [15:23] <valuial> how about HP-UX? *runs and hides*
#2019 [15:23] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> last time i checked this was america
#2020 [15:23] <Kealper> because caps is ugly
#2021 [15:23] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> and i have the right to free speech
#2022 [15:23] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> whether its in all caps
#2023 [15:24] <zsigma> what is hp ux???
#2024 [15:24] <zsigma> lolwut
#2025 [15:24] <bobingabout> no idea...
#2026 [15:24] <valuial> Hewlett-Peckard Unix
#2027 [15:24] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> dont tread on my flag bro
#2028 [15:24] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> why are you treading on my flag kealper
#2029 [15:24] <Kealper> Creepers_Gonna_Creep: done yet?
#2030 [15:24] <bobingabout> thats nice, my computer isn't HP, so it doesn't help
#2031 [15:24] <zsigma> i could geuss that, but i never heard about it
#2032 [15:24] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> these colors dont run bro
#2033 [15:24] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> three cheers for the red white and blue
#2034 [15:24] <zsigma> hmm
#2035 [15:24] <Kealper> those colors can get kicked from the channel -.-
#2036 [15:25] <zsigma> i may not delete the folder
#2037 [15:25] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> bro im an american
#2038 [15:25] <bobingabout> what folder?
#2039 [15:25] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> if you kick me
#2040 [15:25] <zsigma> it says that minecraft.jar is being used by a program
#2041 [15:25] <valuial> zsigma: well, its not that widely used. there are a LOT of different Unix flavors out there. We had a pool of HP-UX workstations at University.
#2042 [15:25] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> the american government will take your country to war
#2043 [15:25] <bobingabout> well... close minecraft
#2044 [15:25] <zsigma> i dont have minecraft opened
#2045 [15:25] <zsigma> oh waiut
#2046 [15:25] <zsigma> -.-
#2047 [15:25] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> zsigma
#2048 [15:25] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> red hat
#2049 [15:25] <zsigma> the browser
#2050 [15:25] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> make it happen
#2051 [15:25] <Kealper> Creepers_Gonna_Creep: alright seriously, if you don't have a constructive reason to be here get out or i will gladly show you the door
#2052 [15:25] <zsigma> haha
#2053 [15:25] <bobingabout> use CTRL+ALT+DEL to open the task manager
#2054 [15:26] <zsigma> i got it
#2055 [15:26] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> you know what forget this
#2056 [15:26] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> im gonna go talk to m0d
#2057 [15:26] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> hope you enjoyed your ops
#2058 [15:26] <bobingabout> click the processes tab
#2059 [15:26] <bobingabout> and end task on javaw
#2060 [15:26] * GreyVulpine waves to Creepers_Gonna_Creep
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#2061 [15:26] <zsigma> i did
#2062 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Enjoy
#2063 [15:26] <zsigma> its downloading now
#2064 [15:26] <bobingabout> then delete everything in the .minecraft folder except saves
#2065 [15:26] <genshou> =_=
#2066 [15:26] <bobingabout> ah good
#2067 [15:27] <Kealper> man i'm totally killing this theme i'm trying to make for irssi
#2068 [15:27] <bobingabout> make sure it finishs downloading
#2069 [15:27] <zsigma> W000T its working
#2070 [15:27] <zsigma> !§ :D
#2071 [15:27] <Kealper> O.o
#2072 [15:27] <bobingabout> awesome :3
#2073 [15:27] <zsigma> thank you very much
#2074 [15:27] <bobingabout> you're welcome
#2075 [15:27] <zsigma> amma go back riding on pigs
#2076 [15:27] <Kealper> grats, one of the few cases i've seen of a black window of death being fixed lol
#2077 [15:27] <zsigma> and building coasters
#2078 [15:27] <zsigma> :)
#2079 [15:27] <zsigma> cya
#2080 [15:27] <bobingabout> cya
#2081 [15:28] <bobingabout> Arch linux a good option?
#2082 [15:28] <genshou> black window of death? ._.
#2083 [15:28] <Kealper> i've not heard anything bad about arch, but i've never tried it myself
#2084 [15:28] <genshou> I think I just got that
#2085 [15:28] <bobingabout> i heard is quite minimalistic
#2086 [15:28] <bobingabout> you basicly start with a black command prompt, and have to tell it to download anything you want to use
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#2088 [15:30] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> hey kealper
#2089 [15:30] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> refresh your chat :]
#2090 [15:30] * Kealper sees nothing?
#2090 [15:30] <miner123> thought I contributed to the community a bit and submit my solution to the crash/black screen at login problem
#2091 [15:30] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> you should be voiced
#2092 [15:30] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> try again
#2093 [15:30] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> sorry bro
#2094 [15:30] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> but you were kind of a dick
#2095 [15:31] <miner123> feel free to save this because it's quite wierd
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#2098 [15:31] * GreyVulpine yawns
#2098 [15:31] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> grey you want to be next?
#2099 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Please
#2100 [15:31] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> k
#2101 [15:31] * Kealper kicked Creepers_Gonna_Creep from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: sorry bro, but you were kind of a dick)
#2102 [15:32] <Kealper> !load mod_op
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#2105 [15:33] <miner123> what I did was: uninstalled Java with the free trail of "Your uninstaller!" (super mode). Then restarted and then downloaded "jre-6u20-windows-x64.exe" (this might be the critical part) and installed it. Game works!
#2106 [15:33] * Creepers_Gonna_Creep [Creepers_Gonna_Creep@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2107 [15:33] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> refresh greyvulpine
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#2110 [15:33] * GreyVulpine yawns
#2110 [15:33] <Creepers_Gonna_Creep> TROLOLOL
#2111 [15:33] * Kealper kicked Creepers_Gonna_Creep from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Creepers_Gonna_Creep)
#2112 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> That..was a horrible banmask
#2113 [15:34] <Kealper> i just /ban lol
#2114 [15:34] <Kealper> just did*
#2115 [15:34] <miner123> there are two possible reasons for my error: 1: the common java version was to "new" for the game to run. 2: the java version I had was x86 and my system is x64
#2116 [15:34] <Kealper> hmm...i wonder if that can be changed in this...
#2117 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> It probably can
#2118 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Just look up what the /ban alias does
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#2120 [15:35] <iSpartan> Lol.
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#2122 [15:36] <Kealper> so...either the oper "m0d" is a douche, or creep was giving him one hell of a scewed story :S
#2123 [15:36] * GreyVulpine headtilts
#2123 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> You weren't added to the aop list anyways
#2124 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> your bot was responsible for opping you
#2125 [15:37] <iSpartan> <_< >_>
#2126 [15:37] * iSpartan sits on Kealper's back .
#2126 [15:37] <Kealper> yea yea....but according to him, that's the oper he has eating out of his hand..
#2127 [15:37] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2127 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Not worried at all.
#2128 [15:38] <Kealper> i'm not worried for my sake, it's bad for opers to get involved in channel-related things, and it makes the whole network look bae
#2129 [15:38] <Kealper> bad*
#2130 [15:39] <Kealper> so i really hope he was not serious about that, for the network's sake :S
#2131 [15:40] <iSpartan> Lol so quiet.
#2132 [15:40] <Kealper> i'm trying to fix the colors in my irssi theme >.<
#2133 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Had some fun in Warhammer 40k, DoW2
#2134 [15:41] <Kealper> lol
#2135 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Just came back to see Kealper's fan.
#2136 [15:41] <MistarC> I was dissapoint with DOW2
#2137 [15:41] <MistarC> After playing DOW1
#2138 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> The cover system sorta sucks
#2139 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Just been playing through the first few campaign missions
#2140 [15:42] <genshou> Darn, server went down for now xD
#2141 [15:42] * genshou goes back to demolishing his bridge in single player
#2141 [15:43] * GreyVulpine blehs and tries out mirror's edge
#2141 [15:44] <genshou> bleh, cover systems in general
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#2143 [15:46] <genshou> Sigh... I wish there were something for me to do at night in my single player world
#2144 [15:46] <genshou> I used to travel between my base and mine via a bridge, but it's currently being demolished
#2145 [15:46] <genshou> I suppose I could switch to Peaceful, but that kinda defeats the purpose of working within the limits of the difficulty I chose :P
#2146 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Betcha can't do a minecart "jump the gorge" type dealie
#2147 [15:47] <genshou> I didn't think it was possible for a minecart to retain momentum.
#2148 [15:47] <MistarC> its not
#2149 [15:47] <genshou> They seem to plummet straight down after leaving the rails.
#2150 [15:47] <genshou> A boat, however, might be able to do a short leap via a waterfall ladder.
#2151 [15:47] <Kealper> i wish they could jump stuff though :S
#2152 [15:48] <genshou> lol yeah, it'd be more like Donkey Kong then
#2153 [15:48] <genshou> :D
#2154 [15:48] * genshou hums the minecart level music
#2154 [15:48] <Kealper> lol
#2155 [15:49] <genshou> ! I know what to do during night
#2156 [15:49] <genshou> turn a bunch of stacks of worthless sand into glass :D
#2157 [15:49] * fogWraith sneaks http://forums.lostlevels.org/viewtopic.php?t=2471 right under Kealper's pillow
#2157 [15:49] <genshou> Jeez, 14 tabs open in Firefox
#2158 [15:50] <Kealper> woh
#2159 [15:50] <genshou> No wonder this machine is crapping out
#2160 [15:50] <Kealper> not at the tabs, at the link
#2161 [15:51] <genshou> Yeah, ikr
#2162 [15:51] <genshou> I replayed LoZ recently at a friend's house. I kept dying xD
#2163 [15:51] <genshou> Partly because his NES controllers are bad
#2164 [15:52] * fogWraith also tosses http://tcrf.net/Proto:The_Legend_of_Zelda in there
#2164 [15:52] <genshou> ahhhh, I love the sound of zombies and spiders dying against my cactus wall
#2165 [15:52] <iSpartan> Ugh..
#2166 [15:52] * GreyVulpine pokes genshou with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z8Q-04YWO8
#2166 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Minecart jumps
#2167 [15:52] <iSpartan> Having a problem on the forums -.-
#2168 [15:52] * genshou dies horribly
#2168 [15:52] <iSpartan> It won't let me post again... =\
#2169 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> I knew I've seen them on youtube before
#2170 [15:53] <genshou> Oh, lame, it requires double-stacked minecarts?
#2171 [15:53] * GreyVulpine nods
#2171 [15:53] <genshou> That might get fixed in a later patch D:
#2172 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Only way
#2173 [15:53] * genshou watches it on the newer PC instead of the 5-year-old Powerbook :v
#2173 [15:54] <genshou> laptop is so old that I can't even watch YouTube on it sometimes
#2174 [15:54] <genshou> battery lasts about 5 minutes if unplugged
#2175 [15:54] <genshou> (used to be about 8 hours)
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#2177 [15:55] <aaabronco> I NEED halp!
#2178 [15:55] <aaabronco> i bought minecraft yesterday but the downloader wont work
#2179 [15:55] <Kealper> what doesn't work about it?
#2180 [15:55] <aaabronco> I will explain
#2181 [15:55] <aaabronco> one moment
#2182 [15:56] <aaabronco> when i click download it downloads the installer i double click it nothing happens and than an eror souns happens
#2183 [15:56] <aaabronco> sound
#2184 [15:56] <Kealper> are you on vista or 7?
#2185 [15:56] <aaabronco> XP
#2186 [15:57] <Kealper> hmm..do you have the latest Java installed?
#2187 [15:57] <genshou> GreyVulpine, hrm well the jump I would need to make is about 200 blocks long :P
#2188 [15:57] <aaabronco> Yes i even uninstalled and reinstalled it
#2189 [15:57] <genshou> I'm working on making a staircase mine shaft for my tracks atm
#2190 [15:58] <Kealper> hmmm...someone else had this problem...but i forget how it was fixed >.<
#2191 [15:58] <genshou> Planning on making a glass tunnel down through the ocean and into the mine instead
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#2193 [15:58] <Mattthias> Hey guys
#2194 [15:58] <aaabronco> it makes and error sound but no error message appears
#2195 [15:58] <Mattthias> Ive got a question about Mob-Spawners
#2196 [15:58] <Kealper> aaabronco: have you tried using the .jar instead?
#2197 [15:58] <Mattthias> If i plant a mobspawner (getting by INVEdit) why wouldnt spawn mobs ?
#2198 [15:59] <aaabronco> Whats that?
#2199 [15:59] <Oggrish> you can edit the mobspawners to spawn what you want them to spawn
#2200 [15:59] <Kealper> Mattthias: it depends on where it is placed, and user-placed mob spawners only spawn pigs
#2201 [15:59] <Kealper> and what Oggrish said if you consider yourself a more advanced user
#2202 [15:59] <iSpartan> Hey guys
#2203 [16:00] <iSpartan> Where is a good place to find some Minecraft Beta server Ip's?
#2204 [16:00] <Kealper> aaabronco: have you tried playing it in the browser?
#2205 [16:00] <Mattthias> Kealper and in the Alpha it spawns Mobs ?!?
#2206 [16:00] <Kealper> iSpartan: http://servers.minecraftforums.net
#2207 [16:00] <Mattthias> but instead of and
#2208 [16:00] <aaabronco> yes browser works fine but id like it in fullscreen instead =3
#2209 [16:00] <Kealper> Mattthias: afaik it's always spawned pigs
#2210 [16:00] <iSpartan> Thanks.
#2211 [16:00] <Kealper> aaabronco: while playing in the browser, press F11, it fullscreens it
#2212 [16:01] <iSpartan> Umm
#2213 [16:01] <aaabronco> oh but also browser is a little laggy and stuff
#2214 [16:01] <Mattthias> But i saw a video of "Gronkh", just look: http://gronkh.de/lets-play/minecraft-lp/053-die-24-7-seidenproduktion , its german alright but there arent pigs ?!?
#2215 [16:01] <iSpartan> Kealper, broken link.
#2216 [16:01] <aaabronco> so i wanted to download it and have less lag
#2217 [16:01] <iSpartan> Download what?
#2218 [16:01] <iSpartan> Minecraft?
#2219 [16:01] <iSpartan> Have you bought it yet?
#2220 [16:01] <Kealper> there is really no difference between the downloaded one and the browser one :S
#2221 [16:02] <aaabronco> so whats it for
#2222 [16:02] <Kealper> iSpartan: since i suck at typeing, take the s off minecraftforums
#2223 [16:02] <Kealper> typing* -.-
#2224 [16:02] <iSpartan> Lol Okay.
#2225 [16:02] <iSpartan> :]
#2226 [16:02] <aaabronco> Mmmkay thanks guys
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#2228 [16:03] <Mattthias> Keapler please look the video, short time ( 30 seconds) then you saw there are monster and no pigs
#2229 [16:03] <iSpartan> No problem?
#2230 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Mattthias - Spawners that you place in the game yourself, spawn pigs
#2231 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> naturally occuring spawners spawn random mobs
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#2233 [16:04] <Kealper> if they are edited in there by a map editor it spawns things just like a normal one
#2234 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> You can edit spawners with a third-party mapping tool (like MCedit) to choose what mobs it spawns
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#2236 [16:04] <Mattthias> GreyVulpine he done himself
#2237 [16:04] <Mattthias> Really ?
#2238 [16:04] <Mattthias> GreyVulpine so that they are real spawner ?
#2239 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#2240 [16:05] <genshou> Hey GreyVulpine, you got an epic minecart system in any of your worlds I can take a peek at? xD
#2241 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, no.
#2242 [16:06] <Mattthias> I meant so that the are working like mob spawner
#2243 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes Mattthias, if you edit them in with a map editor.
#2244 [16:06] <Kealper> i've got a semi-cool subway system on my server, but it's powered by a mod :S
#2245 [16:08] <Mattthias> placed by .dll's calculating
#2246 [16:08] <Kealper> eh?
#2247 [16:10] <Kealper> woh...irssi detects netsplits and makes them 1000x less annoying to look at
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#2249 [16:11] <aaabronco> Ok, the f11 only maximizes the browser not the game window
#2250 [16:11] <Kealper> woh...it even detects netjoins o.o
#2251 [16:11] <genshou> so GreyVulpine how come you don't have an epic minecart setup? :D?
#2252 [16:12] <aaabronco> halp
#2253 [16:12] <aaabronco> halp
#2254 [16:12] <aaabronco> halp meh
#2255 [16:12] <aaabronco> i need halp
#2256 [16:12] <Kealper> wif?
#2257 [16:12] <Kealper> (with?)
#2258 [16:12] <aaabronco> the downloader wont work...
#2259 [16:13] <JSchweigert> I have a problem; in MineCraft Classic Multiplayer, when I press T to chat, nothing happens.
#2260 [16:13] <aaabronco> and f11 only maximizes the browser not the game screen
#2261 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Been waiting on SMP to de-buggify minecarts... and never got around to it
#2262 [16:13] <genshou> ah, but not even in single player then? :<
#2263 [16:13] <genshou> I've already got ideas for rail stations so I can explore my world
#2264 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Had small minecart systems in SP, but meh
#2265 [16:13] <genshou> now I just need the iron to realize my dreams ><
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#2267 [16:13] <Mattthias> Ouh MCEdit crash :-:
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#2269 [16:13] <Kealper> aaabronco: did you make sure you were selected inside the game itself before pressing F11?
#2270 [16:14] <aaabronco> no..
#2271 [16:14] <aaabronco> ill go do that
#2272 [16:14] <aaabronco> but id still like to download it
#2273 [16:15] <Kealper> have you redownloaded it? it might just be a corrupt download
#2274 [16:15] <aaabronco> yeah ive downloaded the installer sevral times but nothing happens
#2275 [16:16] <aaabronco> an error sound and thats it no error message or anything
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#2278 [16:17] <JSchweigert> Any help?
#2279 [16:18] <Kealper> JSchweigert: uhh...can you still move around and stuff in it?
#2280 [16:18] <JSchweigert> Yes
#2281 [16:18] <Kealper> that's...really weird then...
#2282 [16:19] <Kealper> i can't say i've ever heard of only one key not working :S
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#2284 [16:19] <Kealper> does it do it every time you try to play?
#2285 [16:19] <JSchweigert> Yes; every time I tried to play today.
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#2287 [16:20] <Naggon> i hard you might be able to help me?
#2288 [16:20] <Kealper> we might
#2289 [16:20] <Naggon> i have one of the many black screen issue
#2290 [16:20] <Naggon> *s
#2291 [16:20] <Kealper> ohh boy....
#2292 [16:21] <Naggon> when i log the java console it says that my windows 7 is not a proper version
#2293 [16:21] <Naggon> and that it returns to default
#2294 [16:21] <Naggon> he simply doesn't know my windows
#2295 [16:21] <Kealper> you've reinstalled (deleted .minecraft), reinstalled java, and made sure you havethe latest version?
#2296 [16:21] <Naggon> any idea how to solve this?
#2297 [16:21] <Naggon> jop
#2298 [16:21] <Kealper> and the unknown windows version is common, that can be ignored
#2299 [16:21] <Kealper> it does not say anything else?
#2300 [16:21] <Naggon> mom i didn't completly delete. minecraft wait
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#2302 [16:22] <AJHunter> Hi!
#2303 [16:22] <Kealper> hi
#2304 [16:22] <AJHunter> I need some help...
#2305 [16:22] <Kealper> help with?
#2306 [16:23] <AJHunter> I want to create a clasicserver on ubuntu 10.04LTS server.
#2307 [16:23] <AJHunter> How wouldI do this?
#2308 [16:23] <Kealper> what part did you get stuck on?
#2309 [16:24] <Kealper> oh...well, first download minecraft-server.zip and put it in the directory that you want to run it from on your server
#2310 [16:24] <AJHunter> Well, right now I'm stillinstalling the OS, and I need to know what setting I should use for best performance.
#2311 [16:24] <Kealper> for the most part, it's ready to go right out of the zip
#2312 [16:25] <Kealper> just ensure that there is atleast 512mb of ram that can be dedicated to the minecraft server process
#2313 [16:26] <AJHunter> there is. but how wouldI actually get the zip on the server?
#2314 [16:27] <Kealper> uhm, i guess i should ask first, do you have any prior experience with linux?
#2315 [16:27] <AJHunter> mostly desktop distrs, but yes.
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#2318 [16:28] <Kealper> do you have a desktop enviroment on your server or is it just CLI?
#2319 [16:28] <AJHunter> pure cli.
#2320 [16:29] <Kealper> oh, you should be able to just wget http://minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip and then unzip it with tar
#2321 [16:30] <xales> tar can unzip?
#2322 [16:30] <xales> O_o
#2323 [16:30] <AJHunter> Oh! thanks!
#2324 [16:30] <Kealper> hell if i know, and since you asked that, it means it can't
#2325 [16:30] <AJHunter> is that for MC clasic or Beta or both
#2326 [16:30] <AJHunter> ?
#2327 [16:30] <Kealper> that link i have was for the classic server
#2328 [16:31] <Kealper> the beta server needs no extracting, and xales how does one unzip then?
#2329 [16:31] <xales> "unzip"
#2330 [16:31] <xales> you have to install it
#2331 [16:31] <MZDisaster> hey can any one help me, When i ues the game launcher the game tells me when i login "Can't connect to minecraft.net" pls help :(
#2332 [16:31] <Kealper> go Notch for using a windows-only format!
#2333 [16:31] <xales> MZDisaster: can you visit minecraft.net in your browser?
#2334 [16:31] <MZDisaster> yes
#2335 [16:31] <xales> are you using a firewall?
#2336 [16:31] <MZDisaster> no
#2337 [16:31] <AJHunter> ok, thanks! I'll stick arround...
#2338 [16:32] <MZDisaster> i use proxy
#2339 [16:32] <xales> what browser do you use?
#2340 [16:32] <xales> that is why
#2341 [16:32] <xales> java doesnt work with proxies
#2342 [16:32] <MZDisaster> but it's mandatory :(
#2343 [16:32] <Kealper> AJHunter: i'm not much help with CLI linux, so if you have any issues, ask the resident linux guru xales :P
#2344 [16:32] <xales> I don't know of any way to get java to use a proxy, sorry :\
#2345 [16:33] <MZDisaster> thx
#2346 [16:33] <Naggon> mind if i interrupt?
#2347 [16:33] <xales> you just did?
#2348 [16:33] <xales> ;)
#2349 [16:33] <Naggon> ^^
#2350 [16:33] <Kealper> lol
#2351 [16:33] <MZDisaster> xD
#2352 [16:33] <Naggon> there is no other way^^
#2353 [16:33] <AJHunter> one way to get java to work with proxies is to work for sun microsystems on developing java. but that's not likely to happen.
#2354 [16:34] <xales> Oracle*
#2355 [16:34] <MZDisaster> so it can't be coded?
#2356 [16:34] <xales> unfortunately, no
#2357 [16:34] <xales> there isn't any way to get the JVM to go through a proxy that actually works, that I know of
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#2361 [16:35] <AJHunter> oh, yeah... it's oracle now... The java book I'm reading is really old, and it says sun... >.>
#2362 [16:35] <Kealper> xD
#2363 [16:35] <MZDisaster> ok thx anyway
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#2366 [16:36] <Kealper> xales: can you highlight me? i'm testing colors...making my own theme lol
#2367 [16:36] <xales> Kealper Kealper Kealper
#2368 [16:36] <Kealper> ok, that works, danke
#2369 [16:36] <xales> Kealper is a noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooob
#2370 [16:36] <xales> with linux
#2371 [16:36] <xales> :O
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#2373 [16:36] <Kealper> yes ._.
#2374 [16:36] <xales> lol
#2375 [16:36] <Naggon> @Kealper the deleting and reinstalling didn't work ist still says: WARNING: Found unknown Windows version: Windows 7 Attempting to use default windows plug-in. Loading: net.java.games.input.DirectAndRawInputEnvironmentPlugin
#2376 [16:37] <frogzilla> im having trouble connecting to Minecraft multiplayer games. It keeps saying "connection refused"
#2377 [16:37] <AJHunter> me too, at least with servers... I have the second edition server book in front of me right now.
#2378 [16:37] <Kealper> Naggon: it says that for anyone running windows 7, but doe sit say anything else? something that looks more serious of a warning?
#2379 [16:37] <xales> frogzilla: disable firewall
#2380 [16:37] <Naggon> @kealper nope unfortunatly not
#2381 [16:37] <Kealper> crap.
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#2383 [16:38] <Kealper> i've got no idea what the issue could be then :S
#2384 [16:38] <Naggon> last thing is that he is initializing sound systems
#2385 [16:38] <Naggon> and it still keeps black
#2386 [16:38] <AJHunter> what kind of server do I want: DNS, LAMP, Tomcat Java, OpenSSH?
#2387 [16:38] <frogzilla> I don't think I have a firewall. I'm running Mac OS X 10.5.8
#2388 [16:38] <Kealper> AJHunter: yes.
#2389 [16:38] <Kealper> lol
#2390 [16:39] <AJHunter> ehh... Macs don't play well with MC...
#2391 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Sure they do'
#2392 [16:39] <AJHunter> :) keapler
#2393 [16:39] <genshou> my sister seems to do just fine on a Mac
#2394 [16:39] <Kealper> you don't need the DNS stuff...but the other stuff is nice to have
#2395 [16:39] <genshou> though since it's an older one, she has to turn down graphics from fancy to fast most of the time ;<
#2396 [16:39] <Kealper> frogzilla: type java -version in a terminal
#2397 [16:39] <AJHunter> they do? mine doesn't... not in safari, firefox, or WoM
#2398 [16:40] <frogzilla> java version "1.5.0_26"
#2399 [16:40] <AJHunter> so, LAMP and Jav?
#2400 [16:40] <AJHunter> *Java
#2401 [16:40] <xales> tomcat?
#2402 [16:40] <xales> no
#2403 [16:40] <xales> only
#2404 [16:40] <xales> openssh
#2405 [16:40] <xales> ONLY
#2406 [16:40] <xales> openssh
#2407 [16:41] <Kealper> mostly openssh and lamp.....and for reference lamp is a web server suite
#2408 [16:41] <AJHunter> ok.
#2409 [16:41] <frogzilla> single player works fine on my mac. I also have previously succsessfully connected to multiplayer about 2 weeks ago.
#2410 [16:41] <AJHunter> openSSH selected...
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#2412 [16:42] <AJHunter> frogzilla: Multiplayer has worked 4 out of 13 times for me... I counted.
#2413 [16:42] <AJHunter> (on the Mac, I mean)
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#2415 [16:43] <frogzilla> Oh... is that in a single day do you mean something like the last 13 patches?
#2416 [16:43] <MZDisaster> hey, i found this solution "http://www.java.com/en/download/help/proxy_setup.xml" but the problem i think is from minecraft itself
#2417 [16:44] <Kealper> Check your power options and if the option for .Prompt for password when computer resumes. is selected, uncheck it.
#2418 [16:44] <Kealper> Also check to see what your power options you have set for hard drive, and turn off the monitor. Make changes if needed and
#2419 [16:44] <Kealper> stupid right lcick
#2420 [16:44] <AJHunter> I mean on a range of days about 26 days long. only when my mom didn't have the PC tied up.
#2421 [16:44] <Kealper> click*
#2422 [16:44] <Kealper> disregard those pastes.....
#2423 [16:44] <Kealper> xales: i found something i hate about irssi lol
#2424 [16:44] <xales> ?
#2425 [16:45] <Kealper> if you right click the statusbar it will send what you have in your clipboard to the channel
#2426 [16:45] <xales> MZDisaster: that is for application developers, not end users
#2427 [16:45] <xales> >.>
#2428 [16:45] <xales> Kealper: thats putty
#2429 [16:45] <xales> right click = paste
#2430 [16:45] <xales> lol
#2431 [16:45] <xales> you can change it in putty's options
#2432 [16:45] <Kealper> yes, but right clicking specifically on the status bar pastes and sends :S
#2433 [16:46] <xales> depends on if you have a newline in the clipboard
#2434 [16:46] <xales> if you paste something with lines, it will send at each line break
#2435 [16:46] <xales> because line break = send
#2436 [16:46] <Kealper> oh....hmm...true...forgot about that...poop
#2437 [16:46] <Kealper> guess i'll have to be careful with that >.>
#2438 [16:46] <Kealper> /noob
#2439 [16:47] <xales> lol
#2440 [16:47] <xales> just select something
#2441 [16:47] <xales> like the K in your name
#2442 [16:47] <xales> and it will copy that to clipboard
#2443 [16:47] <xales> do it after your done with whatever is in the clipboard
#2444 [16:47] <Kealper> yea but i accidentally missed what i was right clicking and hit the putty window lol
#2445 [16:47] <xales> lol
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#2450 [16:49] <Mattthias> Hi guys
#2451 [16:49] <AJHunter> ok, so I got Ubuntu installed... no what do I do to get and unzip the clasic server?
#2452 [16:50] <Mattthias> Ive got a short question, i built "mob-spawner" with MCEdit but there wont spawn mobs ?
#2453 [16:50] <Kealper> **WARNING: COULD BE WRONG** first get unzip, probably just sudo apt-get install unzip
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#2455 [16:50] <Mattthias> And there arent flames in it ..
#2456 [16:50] <Kealper> Mattthias: are you in smp
#2457 [16:51] <AJHunter> mom's kicking me off... could you maybe message me on the forums or email me?
#2458 [16:51] <Kealper> (multiplayer)
#2459 [16:51] <Kealper> AJHunter: :/
#2460 [16:51] <Kealper> could we continue tomorrow? i don't particularly like said forums
#2461 [16:51] <xales> Kealper: that is correct
#2462 [16:52] <Se7en> is a map for minecraft 3rd party software?
#2463 [16:52] <xales> Kealper: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/14/most-common-passwords_n_796626.html
#2464 [16:52] <Mattthias> Kealper what ?
#2465 [16:52] <Kealper> Se7en: not if it was minecraft that generated it :P
#2466 [16:52] <Mattthias> wtf is "SMP" ?
#2467 [16:52] <Kealper> Mattthias: are you playing on single player or multiplayer?
#2468 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> survival multiplayer
#2469 [16:52] <Mattthias> SP !
#2470 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> SMP
#2471 [16:53] <AJHunter> ok... be back tomorruow.
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#2473 [16:53] <Se7en> No i mean, a map that I can look at to see my singleplayer world
#2474 [16:53] <Kealper> oh....no idea then...i've never been much good with spawners
#2475 [16:53] <Mattthias> Single Player on difficultli hard
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#2477 [16:53] <xales> Se7en: there isn't one. the singleplayer world generates as you play
#2478 [16:53] <Se7en> ok
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#2480 [16:53] <Se7en> thanks
#2481 [16:54] <Kealper> i think he was talking about a thing like cartograph :S
#2482 [16:54] <xales> I think more like the one for classic
#2483 [16:54] <xales> is what a lot of people come here asking for
#2484 [16:55] <Kealper> oh
#2485 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2486 [16:55] * xales hides behind Kealper
#2486 [16:55] <Kealper> o.o
#2487 [16:55] * GreyVulpine stabs Kealper to get to xales.
#2487 [16:55] <Kealper> owes!
#2488 [16:55] * xales hides behind GreyVulpine, causing him to chase his tail
#2488 [16:56] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2488 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Killing floor's on sale today
#2489 [16:56] * Kealper checks steam
#2489 [16:57] <Mattthias> But why the mob spawners wouldnt work ;(
#2490 [16:57] <xales> Mattthias: ?
#2491 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Do you have them over a grass block?
#2492 [16:57] <Mattthias> xales ?
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#2494 [16:57] <Mattthias> No over gravel
#2495 [16:57] <Mattthias> Oh right over grass :Ü
#2496 [16:57] <Mattthias> But what is about the blockjs ?
#2497 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> And uh, is it exposed to sunlight?
#2498 [16:58] <Mattthias> What ?
#2499 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Mob spawners don't spawn monsters in sunlight
#2500 [16:58] <Mattthias> Alright ive got night
#2501 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Hence, why you see them underground
#2502 [16:59] <Mattthias> But @the mobspawner there no flames
#2503 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Um
#2504 [16:59] <xales> then its a pig spawner
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#2507 [17:00] <xales> and must be next to grass/on grass
#2508 [17:00] <Mattthias> No no
#2509 [17:00] <Mattthias> I built with MCEdit ...
#2510 [17:00] <Mattthias> And it stand on grass ....
#2511 [17:00] <Kealper> disregard this...testing colors
#2512 [17:01] * Kealper thinks he has finnally completed his theme
#2512 [17:01] <xales> kealper
#2513 [17:01] <xales> no colors
#2514 [17:01] <xales> lol
#2515 [17:01] <Kealper> am i typing in colors?
#2516 [17:01] <xales> Mattthias: what kind of spawner is it
#2517 [17:01] * GreyVulpine coughs
#2517 [17:01] <xales> Kealper: its mode +c
#2518 [17:01] * GreyVulpine points to channel modes
#2518 [17:01] <xales> lol
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#2520 [17:02] <Kealper> asdf?
#2521 [17:02] * GreyVulpine points to channel modes
#2521 [17:02] <Kealper> lies!
#2522 [17:02] * GreyVulpine baps Kealper over the head
#2522 [17:02] <Kealper`> i meant the theme colors in irssi not channel stuff lol
#2523 [17:02] <Mattthias> xales a "mobspawner" with decimal ID 53
#2524 [17:03] <xales> :P
#2525 [17:03] <xales> Mattthias: pig spawner then I believe
#2526 [17:03] <xales> you have to set it to a certain type of mob
#2527 [17:03] <Kealper`> horrible, horrible people....makin me go all paranoid
#2528 [17:03] <xales> in mcedit
#2529 [17:03] <Mattthias> I just built with MCedit but why doesnt work ?
#2530 [17:03] <xales> Mattthias: as I just said, it is either a pig spawner or you need to set what kind of mob it is in MCedit
#2531 [17:03] <Mattthias> How will i do that ?
#2532 [17:03] <xales> I don't know
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#2534 [17:06] <Kealper> ok....one last test of theme colors..
#2535 [17:06] <Kealper> now it's perfect lol
#2536 [17:06] <xales> lol
#2537 [17:06] <xales> pics?
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#2539 [17:07] * GreyVulpine pokes Mattthias
#2539 [17:07] <Kealper> in a sec, i'll let #minecraft get spammed a bit more with the correct colors so there is not a mix of themes in there lol
#2540 [17:07] <geraldbrent> LOL
#2541 [17:07] <Kealper> lol?
#2542 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Basically, you need to select "import" on the bottom bar
#2543 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Look for spawner
#2544 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Select the appropriate schematic.
#2545 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Then place in your world
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#2547 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Voila. Mob spawner
#2548 [17:09] * Kealper gets some food
#2548 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, neat, haven't looked at these in a while. Arrow spawner...
#2549 [17:11] <Mattthias> GreyVulpine what ?
#2550 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Okay. Open up MCEdit
#2551 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> select your world
#2552 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Open it up
#2553 [17:12] <Mattthias> ah
#2554 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Along the bottom, do you see your toolboxes?
#2555 [17:12] <Mattthias> I found
#2556 [17:12] <Mattthias> Thank you very much :)
#2557 [17:12] <genshou> Hmm, so mob grinders used to be placed in the origin chunk because it apparently had higher monster spawns.
#2558 [17:12] * GreyVulpine nods
#2558 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Because the code looked at the 0,0 block first when computing random spawns
#2559 [17:13] <genshou> Is it effective to build a mob grinder underground near two monster spawners I found connected to one another?
#2560 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> It's not the case anymore
#2561 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#2562 [17:13] <genshou> The two dungeons were literally touching :D
#2563 [17:13] <Mattthias> Thank you veeeery much !!!
#2564 [17:13] <Kealper> ok back
#2565 [17:13] <genshou> I would get a lot of feathers that way, since both were zombie spawners
#2566 [17:14] <Kealper> time to take a screenshot of this theme that is only beutiful in the eye of the beholder...lol
#2567 [17:14] <genshou> not really effective as a general-purpose item collector, but useful for quick feathers I'd imagine? o.o
#2568 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> I remember seeing a neat collector back then, that had a bunch of spawners inside a water-filled, glass enclosure, flowing out the bottom to waiting chests.
#2569 [17:15] <genshou> I don't remember ever seeing a video with a glass building, but I've seen lots of mob grinders built into towers
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#2571 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> There's tons of mob grinder plans and constructions.
#2572 [17:15] <Kealper> xales: http://kealper.com/b/irssi.png
#2573 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Needs more cowbell.
#2574 [17:16] <Gremmy> ^
#2575 [17:16] <Kealper> i might change the part/quit color though
#2576 [17:17] <Kealper> i wish irssi had more colors to choose from :S
#2577 [17:17] <xales> it has a lot
#2578 [17:17] <Kealper> O.o
#2579 [17:18] <Kealper> there are only a handful in the color formats page in the docs :S
#2580 [17:18] <Auv5> Is there a way to tell if a account is a alpha one?
#2581 [17:18] <xales> Auv5: depends on how much you paid
#2582 [17:18] <xales> there is no other way
#2583 [17:18] <Auv5> Well, that's the thing.
#2584 [17:19] <Auv5> If they bought a gift code before the 20th, does it make it a alpha account even if redeemed after the 20th?
#2585 [17:19] <Auv5> Someone bought me a account as a gift.
#2586 [17:19] <xales> yes
#2587 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> it's an alpha
#2588 [17:19] <Auv5> Okay, that's good :D
#2589 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> if they bought it before beta was out
#2590 [17:19] <Auv5> Yes, it was the 18th they bought it.
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#2592 [17:19] * GreyVulpine ndos
#2592 [17:19] * GreyVulpine nods*
#2592 [17:19] * xales ndoses too
#2592 [17:20] * GreyVulpine pokes xales with a spork.
#2592 [17:20] <Kealper> ndos...sounds like an OS i'd like to try!
#2593 [17:20] * xales pokes back with a diamond spork
#2593 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> x.X
#2594 [17:20] <Auv5> !dos, the new OS with boolean logic! :P
#2595 [17:20] <Kealper> :O
#2596 [17:20] <xales> would certainly be an improvement
#2597 [17:20] <xales> dos lacked logic
#2598 [17:23] <cometen> hey what program do I need to edit minecraft,jar
#2599 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> winrar, 7zip, your compression program of choice
#2600 [17:23] <Kealper> :/
#2601 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. edit?
#2602 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> As in decompile, and look at source code edit?
#2603 [17:24] <cometen> modfile
#2604 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Oh, to open it up, just any compression program
#2605 [17:25] <cometen> the game wont run after
#2606 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Well, you're doing it wrong then, obviously.
#2607 [17:25] <cometen> Iput the file in, and save
#2608 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> If you can tell us what file it is, or what mod you're trying to use...
#2609 [17:26] <cometen> elevatormod
#2610 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Does it come with instructions?
#2611 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Usually you have to mess with the meta-inf file, or delete it, with most modsd
#2612 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> mods*
#2613 [17:28] <cometen> mod_elevator.class elevator.class movingElevator.class thats the file
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#2615 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> The names of the files don't help me much
#2616 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell me where you got them?
#2617 [17:32] <cometen> yea
#2618 [17:34] <cometen> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=88517
#2619 [17:34] <cometen> here i got it
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#2622 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> See the part with "Delete the META-INF folder inside minecraft.jar."
#2623 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Did you do that
#2624 [17:36] <cometen> yes I did
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#2626 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, without doing it myself, the instructions are pretty common and straight forward
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#2628 [17:38] <genshou> Elevator mod? What, a 5x2 water elevator isn't good enough for you? :P
#2629 [17:40] <cometen> I try do do it again and then i can tell you what it says
#2630 [17:40] <genshou> Two 5x2 water elevators can be put side-by-side in alternating directions to create a multi-stop elevator shaft :>
#2631 [17:40] <Kealper> hmm...the toaster oven my parents got for christmas seems to work half way decently lol
#2632 [17:40] <Kealper> O.o
#2633 [17:41] <genshou> An alternating series of two-way water elevators is planned within my tower :D
#2634 [17:41] <genshou> I'll have to plan construction around having enough room to avoid bumping my head, though ;x
#2635 [17:41] <Kealper> lol
#2636 [17:42] <genshou> I put one in my first (failed) mining area and built a second one in my newer mine
#2637 [17:43] <genshou> it doesn't go all the way up to the surface, though. It leads to a very large, hollowed-out section of the map I use as a staging area
#2638 [17:43] <xales> Kealper: hi
#2639 [17:43] <xales> Kealper: ping
#2640 [17:43] <xales> Kealper: pong
#2641 [17:43] <Kealper> pong
#2642 [17:43] <Kealper> ping
#2643 [17:44] <xales> omg hax
#2644 [17:44] <Kealper> lol
#2645 [17:45] <Mushuukyou> so what can I use obsidian for
#2646 [17:46] <xales> portals
#2647 [17:46] <cometen> when I remove the meta file the game dosent start
#2648 [17:46] <xales> http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Obsidian
#2649 [17:46] <xales> ._.
#2650 [17:46] <Kealper> -_-
#2651 [17:46] <Kealper> not sure if troll :/
#2652 [17:46] <Mushuukyou> What can I do in a portal
#2653 [17:47] <Kealper> Mushuukyou: you can go to the Nether
#2654 [17:47] <Mushuukyou> what's that
#2655 [17:47] <Kealper> minecraft's version of hell
#2656 [17:47] <xales> http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Nether
#2657 [17:47] <xales> >.>
#2658 [17:47] <xales> use minecraftwiki.net
#2659 [17:47] <Kealper> lol
#2660 [17:47] <xales> its your friend, and can and will give more info than us
#2661 [17:48] <genshou> Mushuukyou, the nether is a great place to play dodgeball with wraiths? :3
#2662 [17:48] <Kealper> ok...those breaded green beans were nice, but it's time for a glass of milk to chase em down with, so brb
#2663 [17:48] <genshou> Also a great place to find lava if you really need tons of source blocks
#2664 [17:48] <Mushuukyou> can I change my spawn point ?
#2665 [17:48] <xales> not without cheating
#2666 [17:48] <genshou> Not without editing the save file.
#2667 [17:49] <genshou> I recommend building a base around your spawn point with either an auto-resetting minecart track to your main base, or a cannon to do the same if you're into that sort of thing :D
#2668 [17:52] <genshou> I plan on turning my respawn island into a launch pad that leads to a sky castle floating on a "cloud" (wool or snow)
#2669 [17:52] <Kealper> a canon? wouldn't that turn you into a grease mark the second it shot?
#2670 [17:53] <genshou> No, cannons can be designed so the player survives the launch (though perhaps not the landing!)
#2671 [17:53] <Kealper> lol
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#2673 [17:54] <Kealper> anyone tried making a canon (redstone triggered) in smp yet? i've not tried in a while :S
#2674 [17:54] <Kealper> and when i tried, it didn't work
#2675 [17:55] <genshou> I haven't tried anything in smp yet other than building a first night's base while testing some guy's new server ;<
#2676 [17:56] <Kealper> guess i'll go try then lol
#2677 [17:56] <Kealper> or...not? can't log in -.-
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#2680 [18:02] <DJRWolf> how do I change my spawn point?
#2681 [18:02] <genshou> You don't, unless you cheat with a savegame editor.
#2682 [18:02] <DJRWolf> ok, thanks
#2683 [18:02] <Kealper> grey is just going nuts with these steam deals lol
#2684 [18:02] <genshou> Speaking of spawn points, I don't always end up in the exact same square. Is it a "respawn chunk" or what exactly?
#2685 [18:03] <genshou> Oh, there's a wiki page. Nvm, reading :P
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#2687 [18:08] <qfweqfewf> I have just purchased and tried to play Minecraft, but after login all I see is a blank screen. What could I be doing wrong?
#2688 [18:08] <genshou> operating system?
#2689 [18:09] <qfweqfewf> Linux. Sun JRE 1.6
#2690 [18:09] <qfweqfewf> Gentoo Linux, to be specific
#2691 [18:09] <mbentley> what output do you see in the terminal?
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#2693 [18:10] <mbentley> and are you certain that you have non-vesa video drivers installed? what brand video card?
#2694 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> Have you tried OpenJDK?
#2695 [18:10] <qfweqfewf> nvidia card. One sec, just noticed something I hadn't before
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#2697 [18:12] <qfweqfewf> hahaha. Ok. I was missing xrandr.
#2698 [18:12] <mbentley> ah
#2699 [18:13] <qfweqfewf> didn't see that portion of the message
#2700 [18:13] <mbentley> heh
#2701 [18:13] <qfweqfewf> thanks for the help, though. Later
#2702 [18:13] <fork> auth server sucking for anyone else?
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#2704 [18:14] <Kealper> indeed fork
#2705 [18:14] <Kealper> i was going to go make a cow canon on my server but alas...no login :S
#2706 [18:14] <genshou> lol, that's a good way to test smp redstone cannons :)
#2707 [18:14] <genshou> better than launching yourself, definitely
#2708 [18:15] <Kealper> lol
#2709 [18:15] <genshou> Could you run your own server and then just give yourself the items via commands?
#2710 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2711 [18:15] <Kealper> t'was the plan lol
#2712 [18:16] <genshou> Ah, but you can't log into your own server, I see that above now :P
#2713 [18:17] <mbentley> would be nice if you could modify server.properties variables without having to restart the server
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#2715 [18:25] <genshou> I swear, chickens exist for no other reason than to trample crops xD
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#2717 [18:26] <genshou> There were four of them inside my tree farm, just WAITING for me to open the door leading to the crops. I killed them and made arrows out of their feathers :\
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#2722 [18:32] <BigBubbles> Hi
#2723 [18:32] <Kealper> hi
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#2726 [18:32] <BigBubbles> brb but no one cares =D
#2727 [18:32] <Kealper> O.o
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#2731 [18:40] <mib_raxc52> Hi I purchased a prepaid credit card to buy mine craft to day and the transaction wont go through with visa payment method please help
#2732 [18:41] <rch> mib_raxc52: Paypal does not accept most pre-paid credit/gift cards.
#2733 [18:41] <mib_raxc52> what about the direct method it mentions on the site?
#2734 [18:41] <Kealper> many online things do not like those prepaid cards :S
#2735 [18:42] <rch> mib_raxc52: Not with a pre-paid card, no.
#2736 [18:42] <mib_raxc52> so do ihave to use an actual credit card?
#2737 [18:42] <rch> Yes
#2738 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> Ironic, really, since the prepaid cards are known to have the money attached to them :p
#2739 [18:43] <Kealper> indeed, that's why i've always never understood people
#2740 [18:44] <Kealper> fail..
#2741 [18:44] <Kealper> people's hatred towards them
#2742 [18:44] <mib_raxc52> yea
#2743 [18:44] <Kealper> because it's virtually impossible to do CCF on a prepaid card... :/
#2744 [18:44] <rch> DopeGhoti: It's because a lot of people use them for fraudulent actions, like buying hosting with them and using their hosting for spam or other things.
#2745 [18:45] <Kealper> oh....didn't think about that
#2746 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> If they are actually paying for the services with them how is it fraud? Nefarious purposed, certianly.
#2747 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> (I can also understand being wary of setting up _recurring_ payments on such cards)
#2748 [18:46] <Kealper> they probably block those specifically to try and stem the flow of nefarious activities
#2749 [18:46] <rch> DopeGhoti: That's what I was talking about, sorry. There's also no actual personal information attached to pre-paid cards meaning they give 100% anonymity, Payment processors don't like that.
#2750 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> mm.
#2751 [18:53] <BigBubbles> can i buy mine craft with us dollars on a visa gift card thats fully actived?
#2752 [18:53] <Kealper> BigBubbles: yes you can buy with us dollars, but it might not work with a gift card
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#2756 [18:58] <BigBubbles> o because i a non fully actived prepaid card . icant use it for some reason and visa is send me prepaid card wich is like a cerit crad
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#2758 [18:58] <BigBubbles> Card*
#2759 [18:58] <Kealper> many people have been having trouble with the prepaid cards :S
#2760 [18:58] <Kealper> fpr buying minecraft, that is, since paypal hates them
#2761 [18:58] <Acerbus> hey, if i buy minecraft beta now will i still get the full version when it comes out??
#2762 [18:59] <Kealper> yes
#2763 [18:59] <BigBubbles> sigh Yea
#2764 [18:59] <Kealper> buying beta gives you all update for free until the final release
#2765 [18:59] <Coll> I thought that was alpha
#2766 [18:59] <Acerbus> what do u mean until the final?
#2767 [18:59] <Kealper> alpha gives you everything free, even future downloadable content
#2768 [19:00] <Kealper> by final i mean the production version of the game (out of beta)
#2769 [19:00] <BigBubbles> cant u put something about prepaid card in faq
#2770 [19:00] <Acerbus> i knew that i was meaning the until part. so u dont get the final then??
#2771 [19:00] <Kealper> yes, you do get the final
#2772 [19:01] <Acerbus> ??
#2773 [19:02] <Acerbus> okay thanks
#2774 [19:02] <Acerbus> grrr, im lagn in iRC. lol
#2775 [19:02] <BigBubbles> i like white shirts and pineapples
#2776 [19:02] <Kealper> lol
#2777 [19:02] <BigBubbles> wat iRC
#2778 [19:02] <Kealper> this irc, i would assume...lol
#2779 [19:02] <Acerbus> thanks so much Kealper =D =D
#2780 [19:02] <BigBubbles> OOOO
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#2782 [19:04] <BigBubbles> do any one notch?
#2783 [19:04] <BigBubbles> dose any one notch
#2784 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2785 [19:04] <Kealper> huh? lol
#2786 [19:04] <BigBubbles> sigh i sux at spelling
#2787 [19:04] <BigBubbles> dose any one know notch
#2788 [19:04] <BigBubbles> okay i think thats right
#2789 [19:05] <Kealper> not personally
#2790 [19:05] <BigBubbles> o
#2791 [19:05] <BigBubbles> is there going to a friend thing on minecraft
#2792 [19:06] <fork> i hope so
#2793 [19:06] <Kealper> i've heard there are plans for it down the road
#2794 [19:06] <NinjaKirby> Does he still run that Web page with prioritised future features?
#2795 [19:06] <fork> considering the income and budget, i expect billions of features to roll in shortly
#2796 [19:06] <fork> :D
#2797 [19:06] <BigBubbles> Yea
#2798 [19:07] <BigBubbles> :D
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#2800 [19:07] <BigBubbles> how did u hear about mine craft
#2801 [19:08] <Kealper> uhh...idk...lol
#2802 [19:09] <Kealper> i knew about classic for ages, but i never really played it all that much
#2803 [19:09] <BigBubbles> house hold hacker for then i told my friends about minecraft anf family and they think its better then roadblox or something
#2804 [19:09] <BigBubbles> i like chatting
#2805 [19:10] <Kealper> then when the login server went down a while back and Notch had to give a free weekend, i gave it a shot and promptly bought it as soon as payments were back up
#2806 [19:11] <BigBubbles> cool
#2807 [19:11] <BigBubbles> CoOl
#2808 [19:11] <Kealper> hmm....the iLoveYou plugin for hMod....i'm so adding that
#2809 [19:12] <Kealper> i'm going to laugh so hard when my playerbase starts freaking out claiming to see Herobrine XD
#2810 [19:12] <BigBubbles> do u play games that are on on steam
#2811 [19:12] <Kealper> indeed
#2812 [19:13] <BigBubbles> me i play gmod and i LOVE vavle games + minecraft
#2813 [19:13] <BigBubbles> well i got to take family picture be back in a bit or a hour
#2814 [19:14] <Kealper> i don't have gmod, although i do have all the games that give it the stuff
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#2816 [19:17] <woodzykiler> can someone help me with online connections?
#2817 [19:18] <woodzykiler> hello?
#2818 [19:18] <mbentley> what exactly is your problem?
#2819 [19:18] <mbentley> way to be patient lol
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#2821 [19:23] <bobingabout> Hello
#2822 [19:25] <bobingabout> anybody there?
#2823 [19:25] <Kealper> rawr
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#2826 [19:26] <Diablothein> Hi, I'm having issues registering to http://www.minecraftforum.net
#2827 [19:27] <Diablothein> I am at the http://www.minecraftforum.net/ucp.php?mode=register page, whichever button I press, agree or not agree, it resends me to that page again.
#2828 [19:28] <Kealper> Diablothein: you are sure you are entering all the information correctly?
#2829 [19:28] <Diablothein> It's not asking me for information, it's the terms page.
#2830 [19:28] <Diablothein> By accessing �Minecraft Forums� ... neither �Minecraft Forums� nor phpBB shall be held responsible for any hacking attempt that may lead to the data being compromised.
#2831 [19:28] <Diablothein> That page.
#2832 [19:29] <Kealper> O.o
#2833 [19:29] <Kealper> not sure then :S
#2834 [19:30] <Diablothein> Fixed it, it required me to delete the board cookies.
#2835 [19:30] <Diablothein> Thanks anyways :D
#2836 [19:30] * genshou noms on the tossed out cookies
#2836 [19:30] <Kealper> weird...lol
#2837 [19:31] <genshou> So according to the wiki's part on chunks, the game only loads 81 at a time (in a 9x9 grid around the player), but they just mean as far as activities going on in those chunks, right?
#2838 [19:31] <genshou> I'm pretty sure the stuff I'm looking at in the distance is over 100m away :s
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#2840 [19:32] <Kealper> well, chunks are 16x16x16 so 9 chunks is pretty far
#2841 [19:32] <genshou> 16x16x128 actually :P
#2842 [19:32] <Kealper> yeah i was close enough
#2843 [19:32] <Kealper> lol
#2844 [19:33] <nolotov> anyone here using linux?
#2845 [19:33] <Diablothein> Me.
#2846 [19:34] <nolotov> icnat find my server.properties file :/
#2847 [19:34] * Kealper can only give the most basic of basic help with linux -.-
#2847 [19:34] <Kealper> nolotov: have you ran the minecraft server once first?
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#2849 [19:34] <nolotov> yes
#2850 [19:34] <Kealper> then it should be in the same dir that the .jar is in
#2851 [19:34] <Diablothein> Look in the server folder.
#2852 [19:35] <nolotov> there are only .class files
#2853 [19:35] <Diablothein> showing hidden?
#2854 [19:35] <Kealper> did you like....extract the ,jar or something?
#2855 [19:35] <Kealper> .jar*
#2856 [19:35] <itsme6582> Anyone know the standard eta for a new account? I've been waiting about a half hour and haven't gotten a confirmation email and can't login to the game yet.
#2857 [19:36] <Diablothein> Day or so from the topic.
#2858 [19:36] <nolotov> yes: showing hidden ... and i extracted to minecraft_server folder in home folder
#2859 [19:36] <Kealper> yeah, paypal likes to cache payments....
#2860 [19:36] <Diablothein> .
#2861 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Paypal stopped working over the holidays
#2862 [19:37] <Diablothein> Yeah...
#2863 [19:37] <itsme6582> i guess it just took enough time for me to log on here and ask a question
#2864 [19:37] <Diablothein> nolotov, to go terminal.
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#2866 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> As in, stopped processing, until Notch kicked them in the balls to work again
#2867 [19:37] <Diablothein> go to the folder where the .jar file is.
#2868 [19:37] <Diablothein> then type in: java -jar (filename).jar
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#2870 [19:38] <Kealper> anyone tried that Updatr yet?
#2871 [19:38] <Diablothein> Once you do that, look for the server folder under your home folder.
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#2873 [19:38] <corky12831> hello!
#2874 [19:38] <Kealper> hi
#2875 [19:38] <corky12831> i have a question if i may?
#2876 [19:38] <Kealper> you may
#2877 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> You may..
#2878 [19:38] <Kealper> :P
#2879 [19:38] <Diablothein> May you?
#2880 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Mais Oui.
#2881 [19:39] <corky12831> my question is this: my minecraft launcher cannot connect to minecraft.net is this a bad thing?
#2882 [19:39] <Diablothein> Not really, just try it again.
#2883 [19:39] <Diablothein> I had the same problem earlier today.
#2884 [19:39] <corky12831> to counter that i say
#2885 [19:39] <corky12831> my freinds account i loged on
#2886 [19:39] <corky12831> works just fine
#2887 [19:39] <corky12831> o.0 0.o
#2888 [19:39] <corky12831> but mine
#2889 [19:39] <corky12831> does not
#2890 [19:39] <Kealper> yeah, login crap has been a bit iffy today
#2891 [19:40] <nolotov> unable to access jar file
#2892 [19:40] <Kealper> chmod?
#2893 [19:40] <Kuei_Keiji> Minecraft was laggy for most of the day today during play.
#2894 [19:40] <corky12831> but the online client works fine
#2895 [19:40] <corky12831> =O
#2896 [19:41] <corky12831> login failed for about 6 hours now i tryed like each 30 mins in those hours xD
#2897 [19:41] <Kealper> same for me, it's just now letting me log in again
#2898 [19:41] <corky12831> but it works if i try
#2899 [19:41] <Diablothein> oh, Kealper, while I'm thinking about it, is it possible to grow multiple trees in one area? (saplings next to one another in a boxlike formation, no spaces in between.)
#2900 [19:41] <corky12831> on my freinds account
#2901 [19:41] <corky12831> like every time
#2902 [19:42] <corky12831> on my freinds
#2903 [19:42] <Kealper> Diablothein: i don't think so, but it's worth a shot lol
#2904 [19:42] <corky12831> and my brothers
#2905 [19:42] <corky12831> it works
#2906 [19:42] <corky12831> its only mine that it says login failed
#2907 [19:42] <Kealper> O.o
#2908 [19:42] <corky12831> think its broken =.
#2909 [19:42] <corky12831> =/
#2910 [19:42] <Diablothein> I've tried, doing a spread effect, though only the center and one of the first ring saplings have grown into trees, the others, nothing.
#2911 [19:43] <Kealper> did you have torches around them? they like lots of light
#2912 [19:43] <nolotov> oi i foud it ... third times the charm i guess ... thanks
#2913 [19:43] <Diablothein> mhm
#2914 [19:43] <Diablothein> nolotov http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=23122
#2915 [19:43] <corky12831> so no one knows? xD
#2916 [19:44] <Kealper> corky12831: have you been able to log in before?
#2917 [19:44] <corky12831> no
#2918 [19:44] <corky12831> i just played offline
#2919 [19:44] <Kealper> hmm..
#2920 [19:44] <corky12831> but now i want to try smp
#2921 [19:44] <Kealper> did you buy the game?
#2922 [19:44] <corky12831> yes :D
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#2924 [19:45] <Diablothein> Kealper: Yeah, I have the whole platform lit up where I'm planting them. I can place the saplings, but, no growing.
#2925 [19:45] <Kealper> Diablothein: weird, i guess there is something more than just good lighting (and enough overhead space) for growing trees :S
#2926 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> There isn't
#2927 [19:45] <corky12831> makes me unhappy i finnaly set it up so i could meh freinds been naging me to play smp with him so i finnaly was like sure. and it dident work
#2928 [19:46] <Kealper> corky12831: i'm not sure
#2929 [19:46] <corky12831> i was like uhh.... "sad face" xD
#2930 [19:46] <Kealper> it could be related to the login server suckage today
#2931 [19:46] <Diablothein> But the strange thing is, is that one tree grew up without a problem next to the core tree, and I didn't remove any leaves on it.
#2932 [19:46] <corky12831> alright kealper thanks for trying to help :D
#2933 [19:47] <corky12831> is there a way i can contact like a legit help place?
#2934 [19:47] <corky12831> where they might accualy know o.0
#2935 [19:47] <Kealper> corky12831: if it keeps this whole login fail thing for a day, send an email to support@mojang.com....
#2936 [19:48] <corky12831> thats just it this has been happening for like 3 days now
#2937 [19:48] <Kealper> oh, wow
#2938 [19:48] <Kealper> then yea, try emailing that email
#2939 [19:48] <corky12831> since i first tryed to log on to smp xD
#2940 [19:48] <corky12831> alright
#2941 [19:48] <Kealper> but note, it will take them about a day to respond, they get lots of email
#2942 [19:49] <Kealper> and it's like midnight where they are right now lol
#2943 [19:50] <Diablothein> Schweden? Hmm 1:00 AM.
#2944 [19:50] <corky12831> its np
#2945 [19:50] <Kealper> i said "like midnight" lol
#2946 [19:50] <corky12831> ima go to bed soon anyways xD
#2947 [19:50] <corky12831> tyvm kealper
#2948 [19:51] <Kealper> yw, although i didn't do much lol
#2949 [19:51] <Diablothein> Hmm, I'll go back to filling in that tunnel, hopefully by the time I'm done the trees will have grown.
#2950 [19:52] <corky12831> well u gave me some where i can get help and thats more then alot xD
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#2952 [19:54] <corky12831> well gnite everyone n thanks! =
#2953 [19:54] <corky12831> =)
#2954 [19:58] <Diablothein> Yeah, only reason I want to know if it's possible is to either change my design, continue with it, or drop it. I'm planting Yggdrasil.
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#2957 [20:03] <Name13013> Hello i get a OpenAL64.dll is not a valid windows application error when ever i try to run minecraft on my windows xp (86x) 32x laptop. does anyone know why?
#2958 [20:03] <Name13013> i have the latest version of java too
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#2960 [20:04] <Name13013> wow this is sad
#2961 [20:04] <locahosed> i realy dont know , but maybe try resintalling openAL seperately?
#2962 [20:04] <Diablothein> Video card errors, most likely.
#2963 [20:05] <Name13013> where or what is openAL? i know where it shows me to look in my minecraft folder but im confuzed
#2964 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> /.minecraft/bin
#2965 [20:05] <Kealper> Name13013: it's what Minecraft uses to play sounds
#2966 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> it's the sound equivalent of OpenGL
#2967 [20:05] <Diablothein> Blah.
#2968 [20:05] <Name13013> grey i know where to find it i just dont know how to re install it
#2969 [20:06] <Diablothein> I get those two mixed up...
#2970 [20:06] <sinedeviance> Name13013: OpenAL has to be installed separately. you can download it from the openal site, and it also comes with most video/sound drivers as part of OpenGL.
#2971 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Google it
#2972 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> It should be on creative's site
#2973 [20:06] <Name13013> ah thanks sinedeviance
#2974 [20:06] <locahosed> http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/default.aspx
#2975 [20:06] <sinedeviance> GreyVulpine: or ... you can just google openal and get the direct download
#2976 [20:06] <sinedeviance> dont use that one from creative's site
#2977 [20:07] <sinedeviance> use the official latest release from the openal site
#2978 [20:07] <sinedeviance> oh wtf
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#2980 [20:07] <sinedeviance> the openAL homepage is at creative now? D:
#2981 [20:07] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#2981 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Or you could listen to me.
#2982 [20:08] <sinedeviance> GreyVulpine: eh sorry. it used to be on sourceforge.
#2983 [20:08] <sinedeviance> my mistake
#2984 [20:08] <Kealper> creative took over OpenAL deving :S
#2985 [20:08] <aetherian> ello
#2986 [20:08] <sinedeviance> Kealper: god no!
#2987 [20:08] <Kealper> olle
#2988 [20:08] <sinedeviance> that means it will suck from now on
#2989 [20:08] <aetherian> see ollie run
#2990 [20:08] <Name13013> now it says that OpenAL64.dll is not a valid windows image. Please check this against your installation diskette.
#2991 [20:09] <Kealper> creative isn't THAT bad lol
#2992 [20:09] <Kealper> O.o
#2993 [20:09] <sinedeviance> Name13013: then you're running 32bit.
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#2995 [20:09] <Kealper> you need to get OpenAL32.dll
#2996 [20:09] <sinedeviance> Kealper: eh, creative isn't good either. they're pretty shit to be perfectly honest, and their business practices aren't much better than microsoft's.
#2997 [20:09] <Name13013> yeah but i have both Open64.dll and OpenAL32.dll in my bin/natives folder
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#2999 [20:10] <sinedeviance> Kealper: when is the last time you heard about a creative sound card that was a must buy? (protip: not since the 90's."
#3000 [20:10] <sinedeviance> )
#3001 [20:10] <guacamole> hello
#3002 [20:10] <guacamole> i have an issue
#3003 [20:10] <mbentley> might try to remove the 'bin' folder and restart minecraft
#3004 [20:10] <guacamole> here it is
#3005 [20:10] <Kealper> sinedeviance: true....lol
#3006 [20:10] <mbentley> guacamole: ask away
#3007 [20:10] <guacamole> Internal exception: java.net.noroutetohostException: no route to host: socket write error
#3008 [20:10] <Diablothein> sinedeviance: I lol'd.
#3009 [20:10] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: eh, it's only true "D
#3010 [20:10] <sinedeviance> :D
#3011 [20:10] <Diablothein> You've no clue.
#3012 [20:10] * Kealper still likes his SB Live! 24-bit though :P
#3012 [20:10] <guacamole> its with EVERY server i cinnect to
#3013 [20:10] <Diablothein> I quit using Microsoft stuff this past summer.
#3014 [20:10] <Kealper> old, but it does the job
#3015 [20:10] <sinedeviance> these days onboard sound is good enough that creatives offerings are pretty meh by comparison
#3016 [20:10] <Diablothein> I've been happy ever since.
#3017 [20:11] <Kealper> i actually don't like my onboard, this creative card still gives better sound :/
#3018 [20:11] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: lol. if you're talking about the windows vs. linux rigamaroll, trust me, i know.
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#3020 [20:11] <guacamole> some help please
#3021 [20:11] <guacamole> Internal exception: java.net.noroutetohostException: no route to host: socket write error
#3022 [20:11] <guacamole> how to fix?
#3023 [20:11] <mbentley> what os? latest java?
#3024 [20:12] <Kealper> guacamole: use a server that doesn't suck?
#3025 [20:12] <guacamole> lastet java XP
#3026 [20:12] <sinedeviance> Kealper: i have a SB live! platinum from like ... 1999. good card. but that was back when creative actually made cards that were worth buying.
#3027 [20:12] <guacamole> its with ALL servers
#3028 [20:12] <sinedeviance> i'd still be using it if it was supported in windows 7
#3029 [20:12] <Diablothein> I have a Linux, a Unix (I've shot myself trying to learn that, repeatedly), and considering getting a Mac.
#3030 [20:12] <sinedeviance> but creative doesn't keep up support for it's older cards.
#3031 [20:12] <Kealper> sinedeviance: yeah, the one i got is ancient, but still beats the pants off onboard lol
#3032 [20:12] <mbentley> i personally haven't bought an add on sound card since 2003
#3033 [20:12] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: don't get a mac. it's not like linux. it's not nearly as good either. mac is all flash and no substance.
#3034 [20:13] <Diablothein> Exactly what I'm getting it for. Flash.
#3035 [20:13] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: lol. okay then.
#3036 [20:13] <Diablothein> Adobe CS5
#3037 [20:14] <guacamole> how do i fix "Internal exception: java.net.noroutetohostException: no route to host: socket write error"? every server fully updated system XP SP3 celeron D 3.
#3038 [20:14] <guacamole> 33
#3039 [20:14] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: guess you didn't know that steve jobs (ceo of apple) is very against flash?
#3040 [20:14] <Kealper> guacamole: is it random? or like every time you try to connect?
#3041 [20:14] <guacamole> random
#3042 [20:14] <sinedeviance> guacamole: to fix that problem, get rid of microsoft and host those servers on linux.
#3043 [20:14] <sinedeviance> ;)
#3044 [20:14] <Kealper> guacamole: it might be your internet
#3045 [20:14] <guacamole> but it will happen at some point with every server
#3046 [20:14] <Paisley> A friend of mine is having some serious lag while running the game, I asked if he updated Java to the latest and he has, and he's running on Windows 7.
#3047 [20:14] <Diablothein> Oh, I do, it's just that I'm not about to go back to Windows so I could create flash games/websites/stuff.
#3048 [20:15] <Name13013> ok i just deleted and re downloaded the bin folder and still get the same error
#3049 [20:15] <Diablothein> Problem: Windows 7
#3050 [20:15] <Kealper> no route to host means just what it says, it could not find the server for some reason
#3051 [20:15] <sinedeviance> Paisley: everyone has serious lag while running the game. the problem is java.
#3052 [20:15] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: hardly. windows 7 is great.
#3053 [20:15] <sinedeviance> Paisley: java is just slow.
#3054 [20:15] <Name13013> says the same OpenAL64.dll file is not valid when im using 32
#3055 [20:15] <guacamole> that same issue is posted all over the fourms as well with no fix
#3056 [20:15] <Paisley> he was running fine on it yesterday, though
#3057 [20:15] <sinedeviance> Paisley: tell him to make sure he updated his videocard drivers, and to make sure he has a videocard that is pretty decent.
#3058 [20:15] <Name13013> i got both 32 and 64 in my nin file
#3059 [20:16] <Name13013> bin*
#3060 [20:16] <sinedeviance> Paisley: did he get an update after that?
#3061 [20:16] <Kealper> delete the 64 one
#3062 [20:16] <Paisley> I'll check, thanks for the help
#3063 [20:16] <nolotov> [WARNING]**** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT! [WARNING] The exception was:java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port? wtf
#3064 [20:16] <sinedeviance> nolotov: kill any java processes that are running, then try again
#3065 [20:16] <Kealper> nolotov: killall java.exe
#3066 [20:16] <Diablothein> Father's laptop has it, my old frankenstein computer that is from 2002 outperforms it, it has XP and only 512 Mb RAM, whereas the laptop has 4 Gigs of RAM.
#3067 [20:16] <Kealper> fail
#3068 [20:16] <Kealper> killall java
#3069 [20:16] <Kealper> damn me and my windows
#3070 [20:17] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: firstly, i find that hard to believe. secondly, of course windows XP is going to use less RAM -- it has way less features to run.
#3071 [20:17] <nolotov> no process found :(
#3072 [20:17] <Diablothein> Ahh, but that's the thing, everyone is saying that 7 uses less than XP.
#3073 [20:17] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: windows XP requirements are like a pentium 2 and 64mb of RAM.
#3074 [20:17] <Kealper> nolotov: your config is wrong then
#3075 [20:17] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: it does, relatively.
#3076 [20:17] <Kealper> remove the ip in server-ip
#3077 [20:17] <mbentley> nolotov: has your server worked before?
#3078 [20:18] <nolotov> no this is the first time ive used it
#3079 [20:18] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: the requirements are much higher for 7 but it makes much more efficient usage of RAM. the more RAM you have, the better it will run. it also runs just fine on 512mb of RAM.
#3080 [20:18] <Diablothein> We'll see soon enough, I have an XP pro edition disc, and eventually I'm getting a laptop with 7
#3081 [20:18] <mbentley> then i would do as Kealper suggested
#3082 [20:18] <Paisley> sinedeviance: he said he hasn't gotten an update
#3083 [20:18] <Diablothein> Which, naturally, will end up becoming a Linux.
#3084 [20:18] <sinedeviance> Paisley: so it was working fine yesterday and is not working fine today?
#3085 [20:19] <Kealper> meh, i can't stand windows xp/vista, but 7 is rather nice
#3086 [20:19] <Paisley> pretty much
#3087 [20:19] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: also keep in mind that laptops are always slower than desktops comparatively, it's because all the mainboard hardware is designed to save power instead of perform.
#3088 [20:19] <Kealper> imo it's one of the best windows versions released yet :S
#3089 [20:19] <mbentley> while i prefer linux, windows 7 runs just as well on my old laptop as windows xp and is just as polished
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#3091 [20:20] <Diablothein> Side note: We're a bunch of computer geeks XD
#3092 [20:20] <Kealper> it happens
#3093 [20:20] <Kealper> lol
#3094 [20:20] <sinedeviance> i will say that after installing a clean windows 7 64bit install on my laptop that shipped with vista 64bit, it's much much more reponsive.
#3095 [20:21] <Diablothein> Wanna know why?
#3096 [20:21] <Diablothein> One word: Vista.
#3097 [20:21] <sinedeviance> i ran ubuntu on all my machines until windows 7 came out
#3098 [20:21] <genshou> Has anyone ever made a launch pad that will always guarantee the player to arrive in a specific spot? Most of the designs I've seen look like poor choices for me to launch myself up to my sky castle :c
#3099 [20:21] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: vista wasn't that bad. people just didnt know how to configure it. windows 7 is basically vista, but with a bunch of default vista settings changed.
#3100 [20:21] <Kealper> although vista and 7 are only 0.1 kernel versions appart, they are two completely different beasts in the same skin
#3101 [20:21] <genshou> A square or two off, and I'll end up slamming my head on the clouds under it, or overshoot and end up in the ocean instead of on the landing pad.
#3102 [20:22] <Kealper> and yes sinedeviance i aggree with vista...it's not bad, it was just so different and so much more needy for resources than the windows everyoen was used to
#3103 [20:22] <Kealper> everyone*
#3104 [20:22] <Diablothein> I've gotten people who know computers to try to configure my parents Vista to work properly, nothing, we've swapped out the RAM from 1 gig to 8 gigs. still as slow.
#3105 [20:22] <Kealper> it's mediocre :S
#3106 [20:22] <sinedeviance> Kealper: yeah. everyone was expecting windowsXP 2.0, but vista wasn't it.
#3107 [20:23] <Diablothein> Windows XP 2.0?
#3108 [20:23] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: then those people dont know anything about windows and they're lying to you.
#3109 [20:23] <Paisley> genshou: I'd been thinking about using a waterfall to act as a "net", but that might defeat the purpose of a launcher
#3110 [20:23] <Name13013> ok all is well my minecraft is now working again :)
#3111 [20:23] <Diablothein> Guy programs computers for a living, and is a very close friend of the family.
#3112 [20:23] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: i had vista using only 300mb of RAM at idle and performing beautifully on an old pentium 4 rig.
#3113 [20:23] <Diablothein> He helped with the Windows XP Black Edition project.
#3114 [20:23] <Paisley> I guess... somehow use signs and place water on top of them?
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#3116 [20:24] <Kealper> the nt 6 kernel did bring about some much needed security changes though, xp can get a virus if you sneeze wrong, vista/7 are much harder to get viruses on (trojans don't count, too many people are stupid and install them anyways)
#3117 [20:24] <genshou> Yeah, I'm just wondering if there's a good way to make a launch pad where the player is pushing against a corner or in a mine cart
#3118 [20:24] <Diablothein> Which, next to XP and win2k, it one of the best Windows ever.
#3119 [20:24] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: good for him, but to me, 'programming computers for a living' = 'computer science major' = 'i actually dont know what the hell i'm talking about'
#3120 [20:24] <ItsChrysaetos> "User not premium" help plix
#3121 [20:24] <genshou> That way I don't have to worry about if I'm standing just a hair too far to the left or something :P
#3122 [20:24] <mbentley> ItsChrysaetos: when did you purchase the game?
#3123 [20:24] <Paisley> did you see that cross launcher? Maybe you could just use one less TNT on one corner
#3124 [20:24] <Diablothein> Lol, he didn't go to college for that, he went for web design.
#3125 [20:24] <ItsChrysaetos> mbentley: about 20 mins ago
#3126 [20:24] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: then he REALLY doesnt know what the hell he's talking about
#3127 [20:25] <Kealper> oh god
#3128 [20:25] <mbentley> ah, it can take a little while for your purchase to be processed. i believe you should receive an email when it goes through
#3129 [20:25] <Kealper> i hate arguing about software with web designers...no offence to anyone who does that but...FFS
#3130 [20:25] <Diablothein> Enough, if I wanted to argue with someone who doesn't know the person, I'd go to 4chan.
#3131 [20:25] <genshou> Maybe I can have a couple blocks hanging at eye level so I can push up against them
#3132 [20:25] <Name13013> ItsChrysaetos: lease note: Minecraft.net is currently having issues recieving payment notifications today; Just sit tight for about a day or so, your payment will get recognized eventually!
#3133 [20:25] <Diablothein> Which, I will never go there, so, end.
#3134 [20:25] <ItsChrysaetos> Name13013: wanted to go play with my friends is all :(
#3135 [20:25] <genshou> I want to either have a landing pad just far enough up that I suffer no falling damage, or I'll have to put a pool up there to land in ;)
#3136 [20:25] <Paisley> it'd have to be something that can withstand the blast, if I got that right
#3137 [20:25] <genshou> the first option would just be so much more epic ;D
#3138 [20:26] <Paisley> :P
#3139 [20:26] <genshou> Paisley, the terrain isn't affected since the TNT is underwater
#3140 [20:26] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: one of my clients is the largest magazine publisher in the world. they use panasonic toughbook U1 handhelds running vista business. these machines are equipped with an atom 1.3ghz CPU and 1GB of RAM. deploying these and maintaining them are what *I* do for a living. and let me assure you, there is nothing wrong with vista -- the problem lies with the users.
#3141 [20:26] <mbentley> i hadn't heard of any issues today with payments....
#3142 [20:26] <Paisley> oh, right
#3143 [20:26] <genshou> Any cannon that doesn't use underwater TNT charge is a one-shot device :P
#3144 [20:26] <Diablothein> Apparently, you're blind.
#3145 [20:26] <Paisley> heh
#3146 [20:26] <Diablothein> Didn't I say enough?
#3147 [20:26] <genshou> (but quite fun to watch it explode)
#3148 [20:26] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: no, i just know what i'm talking about.
#3149 [20:26] <Name13013> by by guys im leaving rc to play minecraft lol
#3150 [20:27] <Name13013> irc*
#3151 [20:27] * Kealper wants a job as a sysadmin :/
#3151 [20:27] <genshou> indeed
#3152 [20:27] <genshou> Though you'll be burdened by knowing that everyone around you (everyone who you do work for) is an undeserving, unappreciative cretin ;>
#3153 [20:28] <sinedeviance> ^this
#3154 [20:28] <sinedeviance> :D
#3155 [20:28] <Kealper> genshou: #MineCraftHelp is pretty close already lol
#3156 [20:28] <sinedeviance> thats okay though; the key is to make yourself indispensable
#3157 [20:28] <genshou> but you can get small bursts of pleasure by doing things like naming a subroutine "PhilsHairyButtCheeks" <--- (worksafe version)
#3158 [20:29] <Kealper> lol
#3159 [20:29] <genshou> or cutting off someone's access to their lolcats or w/e
#3160 [20:29] <genshou> hmm methinks this food would microwave faster if I TURNED ON THE MICROWAVE
#3161 [20:29] * genshou facepalm
#3161 [20:30] <Kealper> XD
#3162 [20:31] * Kealper sets up the Hungry mod on his smp server
#3162 [20:32] <genshou> Hungry mod? :s
#3163 [20:32] <genshou> Sounds like a reason to make a wooden hoe a priority. :DD
#3164 [20:32] <Kealper> makes it so players must eat every so often or start taking starving damage
#3165 [20:32] <Kealper> lol
#3166 [20:33] <genshou> Once a fenced-in 9x9 farm is set up, there's almost never reason to harvest daily
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#3168 [20:33] <Kealper> lol
#3169 [20:33] <genshou> You just mass-harvest and replant whenever you run out, and it'll last you for quite a while what with 80 wheat doing as much as it does :)
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#3171 [20:43] * genshou noms on pepper beef
#3171 [20:43] <genshou> Minecraft can wait... some idiot installed a hunger mod irl xD
#3172 [20:43] <Kealper> xD
#3173 [20:44] * Kealper rages at the latest Minecart Mania plugin
#3173 [20:44] <genshou> I think I'm gonna put World1 on hold and play around with inventory editing to get some of these concepts out of my head and into implementation
#3174 [20:44] <genshou> I still have 3 and 4 to mess with if I feel like just playing around :D
#3175 [20:45] <genshou> (read: massive amounts of TNT?!)
#3176 [20:45] <Kealper> lol
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#3180 [21:01] <aetherian> ah, pixie sticks
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#3185 [21:20] <Kealper> java is so awesome [WARNING] Failed to handle packet: java.lang.NullPointerException
#3186 [21:21] <Kealper> crap...going afk with that hunger mod on = bad
#3187 [21:21] <mbentley> yay for (near) useless errors
#3188 [21:22] <Kealper> ikr?
#3189 [21:23] <genshou> ...aw great.
#3190 [21:24] <genshou> I have a REALLY LONG TUNNEL in my mine
#3191 [21:24] <genshou> I wanted to connect my main base to the railcart track, so I started cutting a forward staircase down.
#3192 [21:24] <genshou> And I ended up hitting bedrock level clear at the other side >:O
#3193 [21:25] <genshou> so now I have to avoid the lava pools over here and dig a loop for my cart to go around xD
#3194 [21:25] <Kealper> lol
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#3196 [21:27] <genshou> I learned my lesson for next time.
#3197 [21:28] <genshou> START with a forward staircase rather than a 2x2 shaft
#3198 [21:28] <genshou> That way I already have my minecart tracks leading right from where I start mining back up to the surface, in a track design it's not hard to make boosters for :C
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#3201 [21:35] <sutadesign2> I am facing a issue where on ym Ubuntu Server, running Minecraft Server my Server will start lagging and if I restart server, server will start up with jave EOFexception errors, and when Server Finally Loads Map is Corrupt... this has happened multiple times and its very frustrating
#3202 [21:36] <Kealper> is the hard drive going bad on said server?
#3203 [21:37] <sutadesign2> nope
#3204 [21:37] <Kealper> and you're sure?
#3205 [21:37] <sutadesign2> new raptor drive
#3206 [21:37] <Kealper> have you reinstalled minecraft server?
#3207 [21:37] <sutadesign2> yes
#3208 [21:38] <Kealper> hmm....the only thing i can think of that would cause all those would be a bad hdd :/
#3209 [21:39] <mbentley> might run smart tests...
#3210 [21:39] <sutadesign2> its running on a virtual server
#3211 [21:39] <sutadesign2> actual server is fine
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#3213 [21:40] <Kealper> bad sectors in the spot being used by it's virtual disk?
#3214 [21:40] <Kealper> if it's just running minecraft, you could just reinstall ubuntu....lol
#3215 [21:40] <Kealper> maybe this hunger plugin was a bad idea....
#3216 [21:41] <sutadesign2> I will try is there anyway to repair corrupt map
#3217 [21:41] <Kealper> <-- not a linux guru, you;d have to find someone else for that :S
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#3219 [21:42] <sutadesign2> it loads just missing chunks
#3220 [21:42] <Diablothein> I heard Linux.
#3221 [21:42] <Kealper> XD
#3222 [21:43] <Diablothein> Oh, 3rd sapling grew up, 6 more before I add another ring to them.
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#3224 [21:45] <genshou> argh! damn creepers :P
#3225 [21:45] <genshou> it was almost mid-day and one was hiding behind a corner the whole time just waiting for me to start working on that part of my ceiling D:
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#3228 [21:48] <genshou> great, thing flooded my staircase mine too :P
#3229 [21:49] <Diablothein> Creeper: 1
#3230 [21:49] <Diablothein> You: 0
#3231 [21:50] <genshou> tis true
#3232 [21:50] <Diablothein> I, on the other hand, while waiting for my trees to grow, am demolishing my house, going to make something... different, and not on a lake.
#3233 [21:51] <Diablothein> So, I'm moving my stuff out of the storage room (top floor, go me -.-)
#3234 [21:51] <genshou> lol
#3235 [21:51] <genshou> like living in a top floor flat?
#3236 [21:51] <Diablothein> Nah, attic.
#3237 [21:52] <genshou> I meant in terms of having to move all your stuff from a high floor ;D
#3238 [21:52] <Diablothein> Not really, I have roof access :D
#3239 [21:53] <genshou> Lol. I went to the bottom to retrieve all the minecart tracks it destroyed, and swam ALL the way back up to the top where the tunnel comes out into the open air
#3240 [21:53] <Diablothein> Go in the building, go up, destroy chest, grab stuff, go on roof, jump off, splash, swim, climb up onto ground, go into lumber mill office, deposit, rinse, repeat.
#3241 [21:53] <genshou> On the wall is a sign I placed near the start of the game to stop myself from digging into the sand there.
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#3243 [21:53] <genshou> "Caution! This passage opens into the ocean!"
#3244 [21:53] <genshou> Y'THINK?! D:<
#3245 [21:55] <genshou> phew... finally plugged up the hole... satisfying watching the water drain down into my mine
#3246 [21:55] <genshou> so much wasted glass, but luckily I have sand EVERYWHERE in my world
#3247 [21:56] <Diablothein> I have a desert :D
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#3249 [21:56] <genshou> Lol! And now I have finally and fully sealed off my tunnel so no more creepers can do that, which was why I was over there in the first place D:
#3250 [21:57] <genshou> and just before nightfall, too :P
#3251 [21:58] <Diablothein> Congrats.
#3252 [21:59] <Diablothein> You know, if my tree planting project works, it's gonna be hilarious as this tree is only a temporary.
#3253 [21:59] <Diablothein> The final version will be up north a bit in the winter biome, and 3x bigger.
#3254 [22:00] <genshou> :o
#3255 [22:01] <genshou> Making a tree farm?
#3256 [22:01] <Diablothein> Nope
#3257 [22:01] <Diablothein> I'm making a giant tree.
#3258 [22:01] <Diablothein> 96 saplings in one place.
#3259 [22:01] <genshou> Ah, I'm working on such a baby
#3260 [22:01] <genshou> I did 64 but one refused to grow
#3261 [22:02] <genshou> even after I cut down the other 63 trees it just sat there.
#3262 [22:02] <Diablothein> Here's a tip, start with one, and do a water effect from it, ring by ring.
#3263 [22:02] <Diablothein> right now I have 3 trees that have grown right next to one another.
#3264 [22:03] <Frowardd> genshou: 64 is a magic number, that might be an issue
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#3266 [22:05] <genshou> lol
#3267 [22:06] <genshou> water effect?
#3268 [22:06] <genshou> ring by ring?
#3269 [22:06] <Diablothein> yeah
#3270 [22:06] <Diablothein> start with one.
#3271 [22:06] <Diablothein> once it grows up
#3272 [22:06] <Diablothein> add 8 around it.
#3273 [22:06] <genshou> ah
#3274 [22:06] <Diablothein> then once those 8 hopefully grow up, add the next ring, and the next, and the next.
#3275 [22:06] <genshou> what's the water effect
#3276 [22:06] <Diablothein> That is the water effect.
#3277 [22:06] <genshou> oh
#3278 [22:07] <Diablothein> The reason I called it that is because water reacts the same way.
#3279 [22:07] <genshou> I thought you were implying nearby water would somehow help it grow :C
#3280 [22:07] <Diablothein> take a bucket of water and go out on an open plain, drop the water in the center, watch it ripple.
#3281 [22:07] <genshou> Yeah, I throw water around a lot.
#3282 [22:07] <genshou> I use it to avoid cutting stairs into landscape since I'm a tree hugger in MC
#3283 [22:07] <genshou> :D
#3284 [22:08] <genshou> It's also useful to force sand to fall when it's miraculously hanging in air above a cave when the chunk is generated.
#3285 [22:08] <genshou> (so is throwing a torch underneath, but that can lead to suffocation)
#3286 [22:09] <Diablothein> I made that mistake on my first world... 20 diamonds, 64 obsidian...
#3287 [22:09] <Diablothein> I just... gave up...
#3288 [22:09] <genshou> xD
#3289 [22:09] <genshou> I look at the ceiling a lot since I have a natural cavern with 2+ mob spawners in close proximity
#3290 [22:09] <Diablothein> Still have that world, I was gonna build a castle-like place in it. but... too much cutting involved.
#3291 [22:10] <genshou> And it cuts right through my mine
#3292 [22:10] <genshou> (2+ because I torch-ringed two and can still hear massive numbers of mobs through a wall)
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#3294 [22:11] <Diablothein> Nice, build mobtraps for them, connect them all to one area, bam, en masse farming.
#3295 [22:12] <Diablothein> Lol, first, and only, mob spawner I found, the zombies at it killed me, so, I lit the room up, built a trap around it, now I harvest it whenever I need feathers.
#3296 [22:12] <Diablothein> I was going to destroy it, but, they killed me... so... revenge...
#3297 [22:12] <genshou> indeed
#3298 [22:12] <genshou> I found a music disc in that cave when I first dug into it
#3299 [22:12] <Diablothein> I found 3 saddles in mine :D
#3300 [22:13] <genshou> There were HORDES of mobs and a skeleton randomly shot a creeper to death while I was crafting bread to save my hide
#3301 [22:13] <Diablothein> lol, my spawner is close to a massive cave system, so, whenever I'm farming, I close off the entrance, for safety.
#3302 [22:14] <Diablothein> then some 30+ blocks down, I've been harvesting lava. got 5 double chests down there full of the stuff.
#3303 [22:14] <genshou> owo
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#3305 [22:15] <genshou> I've never had the iron to get that many buckets.
#3306 [22:15] <genshou> All the iron I get goes straight into rail tracks xD
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#3308 [22:17] <Diablothein> Well, there is a mining system I watched earlier this morning (3 AM) that seemed rather interesting.
#3309 [22:17] <Diablothein> Shaft and levels.
#3310 [22:17] <Diablothein> Kinda like staircase mining.
#3311 [22:18] <genshou> Levels?
#3312 [22:19] <Diablothein> mhm.
#3313 [22:19] <Diablothein> You dig straight down, do a 2 way split at the basemost level (above bedrock
#3314 [22:19] <Diablothein> )
#3315 [22:20] <genshou> For example, one passage going north from the shaft and one going south?
#3316 [22:20] <Diablothein> and then branch out from it perpendicular, start at one, move two over, on third dig another branch.
#3317 [22:20] <Diablothein> mhm
#3318 [22:21] <genshou> Isn't that just normal branch mining?
#3319 [22:21] <Diablothein> Except it's on a scale of 50X50 if not more, going up to the surface.
#3320 [22:21] <Diablothein> Guy that did the vid did a 100X50
#3321 [22:21] <genshou> got a link?
#3322 [22:22] <Diablothein> lemme hunt
#3323 [22:22] <genshou> This sounds inefficient compared to plain old branch mining :v
#3324 [22:22] <Diablothein> It's kinda like it.
#3325 [22:23] <Diablothein> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_XFX8NpCwY
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#3327 [22:25] <lovesauce> How do I change the map on my SMP server?
#3328 [22:25] <lovesauce> To a brand new map?
#3329 [22:26] <Diablothein> One moment.
#3330 [22:26] <lovesauce> Okay
#3331 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Delete the /world/ folder
#3332 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> it'll regenerate a new one when you restart
#3333 [22:27] <Diablothein> Or that.
#3334 [22:27] <mbentley> or you could stop the server, change the server name in server.properties and it should start a new map in a new directory when you start it again
#3335 [22:27] <mbentley> err server name = map name
#3336 [22:28] <mbentley> level-name=
#3337 [22:28] <mbentley> change that
#3338 [22:28] <Diablothein> Or... this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n235IDwQgpQ
#3339 [22:28] <lovesauce> Lol thanks
#3340 [22:28] <Diablothein> How to make single player worlds into multiplayers
#3341 [22:28] <lovesauce> I deleted the folder
#3342 [22:28] <lovesauce> yeah thats how I had it
#3343 [22:29] <lovesauce> Sweet, brand new world :)
#3344 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Diablothein - Just move the single player world over to your server's folder
#3345 [22:29] <Diablothein> Yeah, I found that out yesterday.
#3346 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Then, either rename it to /world/ or rename the level-name line in your server.properties to reflect the new folder's name
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#3349 [22:36] <lovesauce> If you want to help me build on the new map the IP is 99.41.172.234
#3350 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Please don't advertise here, use #smp
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#3352 [22:49] <Diablothein> genshou, thoughts?
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#3354 [22:49] <xaviergmail> omg
#3355 [22:50] <xaviergmail> I was playing, power outage, my 20mb world is gone
#3356 [22:50] <xaviergmail> wtf
#3357 [22:50] <Kealper> owned
#3358 [22:50] <xaviergmail> fml
#3359 [22:51] <Diablothein> bend over and take it.
#3360 [22:51] <xaviergmail> o
#3361 [22:51] <Diablothein> Moral of the story: backup your saves.
#3362 [22:51] <xaviergmail> my world's still in appdata
#3363 [22:51] <xaviergmail> not showing up in minecraft
#3364 [22:51] <xaviergmail> :@
#3365 [22:51] <Diablothein> xavier, do a system restore.
#3366 [22:52] <genshou> Diablothein, it's basically normal branch mining done in a less efficient manner.
#3367 [22:52] <genshou> You have to limit the number of floors you go "up" or you'll miss all the diamonds
#3368 [22:53] <xaviergmail> Diablothein: restore from yesterday.. good id4ea -_-
#3369 [22:53] <xaviergmail> :[
#3370 [22:53] <genshou> better to just keep going in one direction, building rail tracks behind you, and doing a quick-build of a compact door-triggered booster whenever you need to return with cargo.
#3371 [22:53] <Diablothein> Hey, restore or start over.
#3372 [22:54] <xaviergmail> start over
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#3374 [22:54] <xaviergmail> Kealper
#3375 [22:54] <genshou> Once your tunnel gets a good 100m long, demolish the rail tracks and pick up your torches on the way to the main chamber, then seal that passage off and start a main mining tunnel in the opposite direction.
#3376 [22:55] <xaviergmail> world 1 is in appdata but it isn't showing up om minecraft
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#3378 [22:57] <Paisley> Usually minecraft runs fine, but there are times when my game just blacks out spontaneously and I'm forced to end task, is there anything I can do about that?
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#3380 [23:00] <genshou> I got that problem when I tried backing up my world via .rar and renaming it after extracting
#3381 [23:00] <genshou> not sure why :\
#3382 [23:01] <xaviergmail> genshou: ever fixed it?
#3383 [23:02] <genshou> nope :x
#3384 [23:02] <genshou> I got rid of that world anyway
#3385 [23:02] <genshou> it was the world I basically fked everything up on
#3386 [23:02] <genshou> back when I had NO idea what I was doing xD
#3387 [23:02] <Diablothein> Genshou, want to play on my first world?
#3388 [23:03] <genshou> nah
#3389 [23:03] <Diablothein> I have way too much to do on it XD
#3390 [23:03] <genshou> working on my single player mine
#3391 [23:03] <Diablothein> Like clean out massive cliffs.
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#3393 [23:04] <genshou> I recommend diamond pick and shovel :D
#3394 [23:05] <Diablothein> I recommend screw it.
#3395 [23:05] <Diablothein> If you were to see how much I have to clear out and how much I've already cleared out, you'd understand why I started a new world.
#3396 [23:08] <genshou> xD
#3397 [23:09] <Diablothein> huge cliffs... 30-40 blocks from water level
#3398 [23:10] <fork> nice
#3399 [23:10] <fork> jump off
#3400 [23:10] <fork> i wish mc had hangliders tbh
#3401 [23:10] <fork> that would kick so much ass
#3402 [23:10] <Diablothein> plus more, if I'm going to create a decent scenery.
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#3404 [23:10] <Diablothein> fork, suggest it, as for now, use pools of water.
#3405 [23:10] <Diablothein> 2 deep minimum,
#3406 [23:10] <fork> craft like 256 feathers with sticks and fly WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
#3407 [23:11] <fork> a hanglider would seriously make the game kick so much more ass
#3408 [23:11] <fork> couldnt be that hard to pull off :> make a boat in the sky which loses altitude
#3409 [23:11] <Chites> Whenever I try to play, the window goes black after a minute or so, then freezes completely and crashes. Anyone else have this problem?
#3410 [23:12] <Diablothein> update your java
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#3412 [23:14] <Chites> Alright, thanks. I'll see if that helps.
#3413 [23:14] <SycoPrime> I know this is a bit of a stretch, but I'm giving it a shot: When #hey0 says I need to register, does anyone know where?
#3414 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> with the network
#3415 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> try /ns help register
#3416 [23:15] <xaviergmail> GreyVulpine: can u help me
#3417 [23:15] <Diablothein> /msg nickserv help register
#3418 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> With?
#3419 [23:16] <SycoPrime> That was my guess as well. And I registered my nick. I still cannot speak in the channel, apparently.
#3420 [23:16] <genshou> Diablothein, real pros use the /say command :D
#3421 [23:16] <Diablothein> muted.
#3422 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> SycoPrime - You don't have a registered nick
#3423 [23:16] <Diablothein> real pros...
#3424 [23:16] <genshou> /say /ns help register
#3425 [23:16] * Diablothein kicks genshou back in the kitchen
#3425 [23:16] <Diablothein> kick women back to the kitchen.
#3426 [23:17] <genshou> There are no women on the internet. Fail. :D
#3427 [23:17] <xaviergmail> GreyVulpine: my save file is still in my appdata, but doesen't appear in minecraft
#3428 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> SycoPrime - use /ns register password email
#3429 [23:17] <SycoPrime> Ah, I see, I apparenthly need to..auth.
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#3432 [23:18] <Diablothein> genshou, this isn't the internet.
#3433 [23:18] <Diablothein> it's the world wide web.
#3434 [23:18] <Diablothein> pwn'd.
#3435 [23:18] <SycoPrime> There we go. Thank you very much.
#3436 [23:18] <xaviergmail> GreyVulpine: my save file is still in my appdata, but doesen't appear in minecraft
#3437 [23:19] <genshou> ......
#3438 [23:19] <genshou> Um, no.
#3439 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> um
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#3441 [23:20] <james> can some 1 pls help me fix my serveR?
#3442 [23:20] <Kealper> in 1 hour and 35 min this server will have 1 year uptime
#3443 [23:21] <Chites> Diablo, it didn't help.
#3444 [23:21] <james> has any 1 got team viwer so they can connect and look at my server? im not sure why its not working
#3445 [23:21] <james> everything should be right it was working befor
#3446 [23:21] <Diablothein> Strange.
#3447 [23:21] <Diablothein> Try playing it from the website.
#3448 [23:22] <james> diablo can you help me please?
#3449 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> xaviergmail - Can you open it up in mcedit?
#3450 [23:22] <Diablothein> Kealper, which server?
#3451 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> then save it again
#3452 [23:22] <Kealper> the one i'm running irssi from lol
#3453 [23:22] <james> Can some one please try and connect to 58.168.125.60
#3454 [23:22] <james> i wanna see if its me stuffing up or my friend
#3455 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> !check 58.168.125.60
#3456 [23:23] <james> cause im not sure right now
#3457 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3458 [23:23] <Diablothein> Nothing.
#3459 [23:23] <lemon-rev> hey is it normal to get a zmbie swarner in water lol
#3460 [23:23] <james> ugh..
#3461 [23:23] <Diablothein> YEah
#3462 [23:23] <james> damit
#3463 [23:23] <james> idk what is wrong with my server
#3464 [23:23] <james> !check 58.168.125.60:25565
#3465 [23:23] <fork> how do people build mob killing moats :(
#3466 [23:23] <kontroll> Mm. Me + buddy have zombies in water all the time.
#3467 [23:23] <kontroll> fork: Something that drags them below.
#3468 [23:23] <james> these are my settings in note pad
#3469 [23:23] <james> is somthing wrong
#3470 [23:24] <kontroll> Buddy spent bloody hours perfecting his.
#3471 [23:24] <james> #Minecraft server properties
#3472 [23:24] <kontroll> It works. I looted him several times.
#3473 [23:24] <kontroll> :P
#3474 [23:24] <james> server-port=25565 server-ip=58.168.125.60
#3475 [23:24] <james> there my server settings
#3476 [23:24] <james> are they correct?
#3477 [23:25] <Diablothein> Is your IP correct?
#3478 [23:25] <xales> james: is the server on your computer/in your house?
#3479 [23:25] <james> i went on c my ip .org
#3480 [23:25] <james> and yes
#3481 [23:25] <james> 58.168.125.60
#3482 [23:25] <james> that is my ip from cmy ip .org
#3483 [23:26] <xales> the problem is
#3484 [23:26] <xales> server-ip=
#3485 [23:26] <xales> change it to that
#3486 [23:26] <xales> remove your ip from the file
#3487 [23:26] <james> k
#3488 [23:26] <james> so its server-i
#3489 [23:26] <xales> you only use that if the IP is dedicated, not under NAT
#3490 [23:26] <james> server-ip=
#3491 [23:26] <james> atm
#3492 [23:26] <xales> yes
#3493 [23:26] <james> soo
#3494 [23:26] <james> it should work?
#3495 [23:27] <xales> if you port forwarded correctly, yes
#3496 [23:27] <james> i have
#3497 [23:27] <james> it was working
#3498 [23:27] <xales> how do you know that you have?
#3499 [23:27] <james> to not long ago
#3500 [23:27] <xales> ah
#3501 [23:27] <james> till my ip changed
#3502 [23:27] <xales> well, your local IP can change too
#3503 [23:27] <xales> as well as your external IP
#3504 [23:27] <james> so should it work now
#3505 [23:27] <xales> so if it doesn't work, redo the port forwarding
#3506 [23:27] <xales> yes
#3507 [23:27] <james> i havnt got a router
#3508 [23:27] <james> btw
#3509 [23:28] <Chites> Well, the browser mode seems to be fine. Thanks, Diablo.
#3510 [23:28] <james> !check 58.168.125.60
#3511 [23:28] <james> ugh..
#3512 [23:28] <xales> port forward is wrong then
#3513 [23:28] <xales> redo it
#3514 [23:28] <james> but why
#3515 [23:28] <james> do i have to
#3516 [23:28] <james> it was working fine befor
#3517 [23:28] <james> ?/?
#3518 [23:28] <xales> if you want it to work
#3519 [23:28] <xales> as I said
#3520 [23:28] <xales> your internal IP can change
#3521 [23:28] <xales> just like your external one
#3522 [23:28] <james> okay okay
#3523 [23:29] <james> ooh wow
#3524 [23:29] <james> wtf
#3525 [23:29] <james> my fire wall didnt have it added
#3526 [23:29] <james> i had it added befor tho
#3527 [23:29] <james> !check 58.168.125.60
#3528 [23:30] <Diablothein> Create a static IP.
#3529 [23:30] <Diablothein> with proper port forwarding.
#3530 [23:30] <james> could u help me with that.
#3531 [23:30] <james> ?
#3532 [23:31] <xales> portforward.com
#3533 [23:31] <Diablothein> Sorry, no, I hate dealing with port-forwarding (Hope you don't own a Linksys router!)
#3534 [23:31] <james> i dont even own a router
#3535 [23:31] <Diablothein> Then you don't need to do that.
#3536 [23:32] <cometen> james if you write your ip and port in the server properties file it dont work, i did that
#3537 [23:33] <james> !58.168.125.60
#3538 [23:33] <james> !check 58.168.125.60
#3539 [23:33] <james> but befor a guy team viwerd me
#3540 [23:33] <james> AND HE CHANGED THE PORT AND IP
#3541 [23:33] <james> and it workes
#3542 [23:33] <james> :)
#3543 [23:33] <james> worked
#3544 [23:34] <xales> james
#3545 [23:34] <james> ?
#3546 [23:34] <xales> what is your computer plugged into with the wire that looks like a big telephone cord
#3547 [23:35] <james> the modem?
#3548 [23:35] <lemon-rev> oh crap now i just realised how far i have borrowed out lol
#3549 [23:35] <xales> do you use dialup?
#3550 [23:35] <james> no
#3551 [23:35] <xales> then you don't have a modem
#3552 [23:35] <james> i use adsl2+
#3553 [23:35] <james> adsl+2
#3554 [23:35] <james> or w.e
#3555 [23:35] <xales> does the thing it plugs into
#3556 [23:35] <james> and its a 2 wire square thingy
#3557 [23:35] <james> it plugs into a wall yes
#3558 [23:35] <xales> have a plug for another computer?
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#3560 [23:36] <james> what do you mean?
#3561 [23:36] <xales> the kind of plug that its plugged into
#3562 [23:36] <xales> is there room for another one?
#3563 [23:36] <james> oh
#3564 [23:36] <james> ethernet
#3565 [23:36] <xales> yes
#3566 [23:36] <xales> is there room for another ethernet plug?
#3567 [23:37] <james> no
#3568 [23:37] <james> i have a 2071 A 2 wire modem.
#3569 [23:38] <xales> start->all programs->accessories->command prompt
#3570 [23:38] <james> wtf
#3571 [23:38] <james> im connected to my server
#3572 [23:38] <james> k
#3573 [23:38] <xales> run "ipconfig"
#3574 [23:38] <james> what ip u want
#3575 [23:38] <james> gate way
#3576 [23:38] <james> or ipv4?
#3577 [23:39] <xales> ipv4
#3578 [23:39] <james> 58.168.125.60
#3579 [23:39] <james> and my gate way is
#3580 [23:39] <Diablothein> !check 127.0.0.1
#3581 [23:39] <james> 58.168.125.60
#3582 [23:39] <Diablothein> Nice.
#3583 [23:39] <xales> lol
#3584 [23:39] <james> !check 127.0.0.1
#3585 [23:39] <xales> james: then it should be working; you wouldn't need to port forward
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#3587 [23:40] <james> k
#3588 [23:40] <james> what is the problem then im confused
#3589 [23:40] <james> :
#3590 [23:40] <xales> if its not working
#3591 [23:40] <xales> then its your firewall
#3592 [23:40] <james> i have allowed it.
#3593 [23:40] <xales> or your ISP
#3594 [23:40] <james> just then tho
#3595 [23:40] <xales> try turning off the firewall
#3596 [23:40] <james> try connecting to my server
#3597 [23:40] <james> just once
#3598 [23:40] <james> not with bot
#3599 [23:40] <james> :S
#3600 [23:40] <xales> if the bot doesn't get it
#3601 [23:40] <xales> then neither will the client
#3602 [23:40] <james> k
#3603 [23:40] <james> brb
#3604 [23:40] <james> going into firewall
#3605 [23:41] <Diablothein> Anyways, vote time: How should I destroy my house? A: Block by block. B: TNT. or C: Fire.
#3606 [23:41] <james> tnt
#3607 [23:42] <xales> Diablothein: made of wood?
#3608 [23:42] <james> !check 58.168.125.59
#3609 [23:42] <james> !check 58.168.125.60
#3610 [23:42] <Diablothein> wood, glass, cobblestone ceiling.
#3611 [23:42] <xales> lava
#3612 [23:42] <xales> then
#3613 [23:42] <xales> epic destruction
#3614 [23:42] <xales> lights wood on fire and burns down
#3615 [23:42] <james> fire tnt and lavaq
#3616 [23:42] <james> tnt on roof
#3617 [23:42] <james> lava on floor
#3618 [23:42] <james> :o
#3619 [23:42] <xales> !check 58.168.125.60
#3620 [23:42] <xales> are you sure the server is running?
#3621 [23:42] <james> yes..
#3622 [23:43] <james> have you got team viwER?
#3623 [23:43] <Diablothein> I'm conserving my lava for a future project (I've gathered 6 large chests full of it :D)
#3624 [23:43] <james> team viwer.
#3625 [23:43] <james> i mean
#3626 [23:43] <xales> lol
#3627 [23:43] <xales> use 1 of it then
#3628 [23:43] <xales> and reclaim when the house starts on fire
#3629 [23:43] <Diablothein> waste...
#3630 [23:43] <james> xales
#3631 [23:43] <Diablothein> AND THIS TREE NEEDS TO GROW FASTER!!!
#3632 [23:43] <james> xales????
#3633 [23:44] <james> u have team viwer?
#3634 [23:44] <xales> what
#3635 [23:44] <Diablothein> teamviewer
#3636 [23:44] <xales> I can't diagnose network problems over the internet
#3637 [23:44] <james> have you got team viwer or a remote assist program like that
#3638 [23:44] <james> just look @ server propertiys
#3639 [23:44] <james> a guy changed them one time
#3640 [23:44] <james> and fixed it.
#3641 [23:44] <james> so yeah
#3642 [23:44] <xales> thats not the issue here
#3643 [23:44] <xales> if you don't have the ip in there it binds to 0.0.0.0
#3644 [23:44] <xales> restart the server
#3645 [23:44] <xales> with the firewall DISABLED
#3646 [23:45] <james> k
#3647 [23:46] <james> restarted
#3648 [23:46] <james> fire wall off
#3649 [23:46] <james> lets check it shall we?
#3650 [23:46] <james> !check 58.168.125.60
#3651 [23:46] <james> !check 58.168.125.59
#3652 [23:46] <james> mmh.
#3653 [23:46] <xales> what firewall are you using
#3654 [23:46] <xales> windows firewall or something else
#3655 [23:46] <james> i have windows fire wall disabled
#3656 [23:47] <james> and nothing else
#3657 [23:47] <james> :s
#3658 [23:47] <james> :S
#3659 [23:47] <james> :(
#3660 [23:47] <xales> are you sure there isn't any other firewall?
#3661 [23:47] <james> %100 sure
#3662 [23:47] <xales> can you connect to the server?
#3663 [23:48] <Diablothein> try connecting to it via 127.0.0.1
#3664 [23:48] <james> it works when i connect to my server with
#3665 [23:48] <james> 58.168.125.60
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#3667 [23:48] <xales> then its a problem with your firewall or modem blocking inbound traffic
#3668 [23:49] <james> !check 58.168.125.60
#3669 [23:49] <james> !check 58.168.125.59
#3670 [23:50] <james> !check 58.168.125.60
#3671 [23:51] <james> !check 58.168.125.60:25564
#3672 [23:51] <james> yeah fucker
#3673 [23:51] <james> :)
#3674 [23:51] <james> got it
#3675 [23:51] <james> 58.168.125.60:25564
#3676 [23:51] <james> woot woot
#3677 [23:51] <james> :)
#3678 [23:51] <james> xales
#3679 [23:52] <james> u there?
#3680 [23:52] <james> Try connecting 58.168.125.60:25564
#3681 [23:52] <xales> this computer can't run minecraft
#3682 [23:52] <xales> sorry, its my shitty laptop
#3683 [23:52] <james> dammit
#3684 [23:52] <Diablothein> gimme moment.
#3685 [23:52] <james> says everything is fine tho
#3686 [23:52] <james> so yay
#3687 [23:52] <james> :)
#3688 [23:53] <james> k
#3689 [23:53] <james> your in
#3690 [23:53] <james> well
#3691 [23:53] <james> in note pad
#3692 [23:53] <james> i changed the port
#3693 [23:53] <james> and added in
#3694 [23:53] <james> the ip
#3695 [23:53] <james> and it worked?
#3696 [23:53] <Diablothein> I'm in.
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#3698 [23:54] <james> thx guys