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#3 [00:14] <genshou> yay, my carts is now boosted both in and out of the mine
#4 [00:14] * genshou just needs to set up a better booster on the bottom so he needs one less minecart xD
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#10 [00:34] <xales> I'm surprised at how quiet it is right now
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#12 [00:35] <GreyMaria> Is anyone familiar with the conditions for an infinite lava source?
#13 [00:35] <xales> there isn't a way to have one
#14 [00:35] <xales> unfortunately
#15 [00:35] <GreyMaria> I call bullshit.
#16 [00:35] <GreyMaria> Lots of people tell me it requires deep lava.
#17 [00:35] <xales> http://minecraft.net/wiki/Lava
#18 [00:35] <xales> nope
#19 [00:36] <xales> they are misinformed or lying
#20 [00:37] <Diablothein> infinite lava is no longer available .
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#22 [00:38] <fruffie> Hi. I'm having a problem with minecraft is this the place?
#23 [00:38] <xales> depends on the problem
#24 [00:39] <fruffie> whenever i try and run minecraft.exe i get the message "could not run the java virtual machine"
#25 [00:39] <fruffie> and it doesn't load
#26 [00:39] <xales> do you have java installed?
#27 [00:39] <fruffie> yea
#28 [00:39] <xales> is it up to date?
#29 [00:39] <fruffie> i beleive so
#30 [00:39] <fruffie> i updated it today
#31 [00:39] <xales> start->all programs->accessories->command prompt
#32 [00:40] <xales> type in "java -version" (without quotes), and hit enter
#33 [00:40] <fruffie> with a space inbetween?
#34 [00:40] <xales> yes
#35 [00:41] <fruffie> "java is not reconized as an internal or external command"
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#37 [00:41] <xales> what version of windows are you using
#38 [00:41] <aetherian> yo
#39 [00:41] <fruffie> visya
#40 [00:41] <fruffie> *vista
#41 [00:41] <Diablothein> There's your problem right there.
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#43 [00:41] <aetherian> haha
#44 [00:41] <xales> ._.
#45 [00:41] <fruffie> damn you not time for jokes
#46 [00:42] <xales> are you absolutely sure you have java installed?
#47 [00:42] <fruffie> it worked before by the way
#48 [00:42] <fruffie> yea im almost positive...
#49 [00:42] <fruffie> istalled it many times
#50 [00:42] <xales> when did it stop working?
#51 [00:42] <fruffie> a few days ago
#52 [00:42] <xales> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
#53 [00:42] <xales> visit that link
#54 [00:42] <fruffie> i played the beta once or twice so it isnt that
#55 [00:43] <xales> does it say "Your java is working" after it loads?
#56 [00:43] <fruffie> jesus chirst chrome is not responding
#57 [00:43] <xales> just wait
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#59 [00:44] <fruffie> okay it has abunch or errors
#60 [00:44] <fruffie> java crashed
#61 [00:44] <xales> what is the error
#62 [00:44] <xales> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com
#63 [00:44] <xales> use that^
#64 [00:44] <fruffie> "the followig plugin has crashed
#65 [00:46] <xales> contagiousduck: was there something I could help you with?
#66 [00:46] <contagiousduck> yes....I use minecraft on mac 10.5.8 ... I am unable to connect to any multiplayer servers. Usually i get an error that says "java.net.SocketException: Network is unreachable" .
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#68 [00:46] <xales> how do you connect to the internet?
#69 [00:47] <xales> via a proxy or "anonymizer" or something like that?
#70 [00:47] <contagiousduck> cable modem...wirelessly through a router
#71 [00:47] <contagiousduck> no
#72 [00:47] <xales> what IP are you trying to connect to?
#73 [00:47] <xales> also, are you using a firewall
#74 [00:47] <fruffie> um xales what did you want me to do exactly?
#75 [00:48] <xales> fruffie: post the error
#76 [00:48] <contagiousduck> I'm not using a firewall. And I'm having this problem with several IP's. The specific one now is 141.151.180.9
#77 [00:48] <fruffie> yea i did. "following plug in has crashed-java
#78 [00:48] <xales> is that the entire error?
#79 [00:48] <xales> !check 141.151.180.9
#80 [00:49] <xales> err
#81 [00:49] <xales> that server isn't up then
#82 [00:49] <contagiousduck> Ok
#83 [00:49] <contagiousduck> do you know a known-good one I can try to see if it works?
#84 [00:49] <xales> smp.shadow-craft.net
#85 [00:49] <fruffie> well it had the verison #. sorry btw im trying to check if i actually do have the correct version installed
#86 [00:50] <contagiousduck> totally worked...sorry to waste your time..and thank you :-)
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#88 [00:50] <xales> no problem
#89 [00:50] <xales> fruffie: what was the version number
#90 [00:51] <fruffie> um idk it was 6then few numbers i navigated away from the page a while ago
#91 [00:51] <xales> ok
#92 [00:51] <fruffie> i restrted my browser and the test started but i got a white block where something should have been apparently
#93 [00:52] <xales> you don't have java properly installed then
#94 [00:52] <fruffie> ah. i got the 64bit one dled for win7/vista
#95 [00:53] <fruffie> im on chrome would that impede the test>
#96 [00:53] <xales> no
#97 [00:54] <xales> unless your not using 64bit windows
#98 [00:54] <xales> do you have an antivirus program?
#99 [00:54] <fruffie> windows security essentials
#100 [00:55] <xales> anything else?
#101 [00:55] <fruffie> ok so i got an error message again while doing the test and it said the following program had crashed and it said java and it's version # but i didnt get the verion number
#102 [00:55] <fruffie> and windows defender btw
#103 [00:56] <xales> windows defender and windows security essentials are the same thing
#104 [00:56] <xales> download clamwin from here (http://www.clamwin.com/content/view/18/46/)
#105 [00:56] <xales> and install it, then do a RAM scan
#106 [00:56] <Kealper> O.o
#107 [00:56] <xales> Kealper: java crashes without an error and isn't available on the command line
#108 [00:57] <Diablothein> wb Keal
#109 [00:57] <Kealper> o.o
#110 [00:57] <Kealper> danke
#111 [00:57] <Kealper> that's a weird thing then :/
#112 [00:57] <Kealper> 4 more minutes and this machine will have been running for 365 days
#113 [00:57] <xales> also, only security is the windows "security" essentials thing
#114 [00:57] <xales> Kealper: lol
#115 [00:59] <aetherian> dammit
#116 [00:59] <aetherian> I'm such an idiotic fool ;_;
#117 [01:00] <aetherian> my sister calls the home phone, so I run to pick it up -- but needless to say, my father had gotten it, and taken it back to his room, so I'm just saying "hello? hello?" over a line, and making it so others can't hear
#118 [01:00] <aetherian> >.>
#119 [01:00] <aetherian> [/rant]
#120 [01:00] <fruffie> how do i have it scan my ram?\
#121 [01:00] <fruffie> just my C drive?
#122 [01:00] <xales> fruffie: double click on its icon
#123 [01:00] <xales> no
#124 [01:00] <xales> double click its icon and in the window that pops up
#125 [01:00] <xales> click the button that looks like a black circuit thing and has a magnifying glass over it
#126 [01:01] <fruffie> scans comp. memory for virus files/
#127 [01:01] <fruffie> ?
#128 [01:01] <xales> yes
#129 [01:01] <Diablothein> Ahh, sprechen sie Deutsch, Kealper?
#130 [01:02] <Kealper> nien
#131 [01:02] <Kealper> not much :S
#132 [01:02] <fruffie> i deleted an account called asp.net that was on my pc? was that bad/
#133 [01:02] <Diablothein> Ahh, ich denke so.
#134 [01:02] <xales> Ik spreek het
#135 [01:02] <xales> fruffie: possibly
#136 [01:02] <aetherian> English...
#137 [01:02] <xales> windows is retarded
#138 [01:03] <fruffie> i looked it up and people said that it was only necessary for programming
#139 [01:03] <xales> asp.net the language is
#140 [01:03] <fruffie> in visual basic and C++ and such
#141 [01:03] <xales> not the machine account, but I don't know
#142 [01:03] <xales> regardless, .net has nothing to do with java
#143 [01:03] <xales> is it scanning?
#144 [01:03] <fruffie> yea
#145 [01:04] <xales> Kealper: bets on the scan?
#146 [01:04] <Kealper> hmm....
#147 [01:04] <xales> you can vote 1, more than 1, or clean
#148 [01:04] <fruffie> 1 find for vundofixtool as ADWARE
#149 [01:04] <Kealper> i vote......3
#150 [01:04] <xales> lol
#151 [01:04] <xales> fruffie: scan completed?
#152 [01:04] <fruffie> yea
#153 [01:04] <fruffie> those are the resualts
#154 [01:04] <fruffie> *results
#155 [01:04] <Kealper> poop
#156 [01:05] <fruffie> C:\Program Files\VundoFixTool\VundoFixTool.srv.exe: Adware.Fakesec-86 FOUND
#157 [01:05] <fruffie> ----------- SCAN SUMMARY -----------
#158 [01:05] <fruffie> Known viruses: 857217
#159 [01:05] <fruffie> Engine version: 0.96.5
#160 [01:05] <fruffie> Scanned directories: 0
#161 [01:05] <fruffie> Scanned files: 388
#162 [01:05] <fruffie> Infected files: 1
#163 [01:05] <fruffie> Data scanned: 333.72 MB
#164 [01:05] <fruffie> Data read: 0.00 MB (ratio 0.00:1)
#165 [01:05] <fruffie> Time: 152.285 sec (2 m 32 s)
#166 [01:05] <Kealper> oh lawd
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#168 [01:05] <xales> well then
#169 [01:05] <xales> you have a virus
#170 [01:05] <xales> i suggest removing it
#171 [01:05] <fruffie> doesnt it say its adware?
#172 [01:05] <Kealper> VundoFixTool...sounds legit /s
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#174 [01:06] <xales> no
#175 [01:06] <xales> kealper
#176 [01:06] <xales> I looked it up
#177 [01:06] <Kealper> note the /s
#178 [01:06] <xales> derp
#179 [01:06] <xales> i keep missing those
#180 [01:06] <Kealper> for end of sarcasm
#181 [01:06] <fruffie> oh ok
#182 [01:06] <Kealper> lol
#183 [01:06] <xales> ._.
#184 [01:06] <Xaviergmail> I know this isn't the place for mods, but my world crashed and I got it back but my inv;s gone and I want my diamond spades back
#185 [01:06] <brandybeans> issues recieving payment notifications today... aww dam
#186 [01:06] <Xaviergmail> anything to edit inv?
#187 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> InvEdit
#188 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> Google it
#189 [01:06] <Kealper> if i say something absurd (unless it pretains to nix) then it's probably sarcasm :P
#190 [01:06] <Xaviergmail> thx GreyVulpine
#191 [01:07] <xales> Kealper: I hope so
#192 [01:07] <Kealper> but if it's about anything unix...it's probably just me being incompetent lol
#193 [01:07] <Kealper> ninja'd that ]
#194 [01:08] <fruffie> its listed as an antispyware...
#195 [01:08] <xales> fruffie: I suggest you download and install AVG (http://free.avg.com/us-en/download-free-antivirus)
#196 [01:08] <Kealper> fruffie: lies
#197 [01:08] <xales> and use that to remove it
#198 [01:08] <fruffie> im using the default uninstall from the control panel
#199 [01:08] <Kealper> AVG, Avira, Avast.....all half way decent at getting stuff out
#200 [01:08] <fruffie> is that not enought?
#201 [01:08] <Kealper> i wouldn't trust it's uninstaller
#202 [01:09] <fruffie> well if i checks the registry and all keys were gone regarding it would that suffice?
#203 [01:09] <Diablothein> dude, clamav
#204 [01:09] <fruffie> *checked\
#205 [01:09] <xales> fruffie: that is not enough
#206 [01:09] <fruffie> mk
#207 [01:09] <xales> its a virus, it will not let you uninstall it
#208 [01:09] <Diablothein> Oh oh oh oh.
#209 [01:09] <Diablothein> malwarebytes antimalware
#210 [01:09] <Kealper> like...it's uninstaller could be some sort of trojan downloader or something even worse than what you try to uninstall
#211 [01:10] <fruffie> no. the uninstaller is part of windows..
#212 [01:10] <Diablothein> Hold on.
#213 [01:10] <Diablothein> What's the name of it?
#214 [01:10] <fruffie> mine?
#215 [01:10] <xales> fruffie: the uninstaller is provided by the application
#216 [01:10] <xales> Diablothein: vundofixtool
#217 [01:10] <Kealper> fruffie: every program has it's own uninstaller, windows just runs said uninstaller when you want to remove it
#218 [01:11] <xales> fruffie: avg will also protect you from getting more viruses
#219 [01:11] <xales> somewhat anyway
#220 [01:11] <fruffie> oh ok i thought that the control panel way of uninstalling things was diff from the one the program comes with
#221 [01:11] <Diablothein> gimme moment
#222 [01:11] * Kealper uses Avira
#222 [01:11] <fruffie> well i DLed vundo on purpose
#223 [01:11] <Kealper> that's why they are nicknamed trojans...from the Trojan Horse
#224 [01:12] <Diablothein> yep
#225 [01:12] <Kealper> they try and look like something that you actually want, to get you to let them in
#226 [01:12] <Diablothein> it's a virus. anyways, try malwarebyres antimalware
#227 [01:12] <Diablothein> Stuff is amazing.
#228 [01:12] <Kealper> then they start silently owning you
#229 [01:12] <fruffie> this isnt the real problem here anyways...
#230 [01:12] <fruffie> it was working before
#231 [01:13] <xales> fruffie: it probably is
#232 [01:13] <Kealper> maybe not, but it's a problem none-the-less
#233 [01:13] <xales> java is crashing for a reason
#234 [01:13] <xales> if there is a virus, that very well may be the cause of it
#235 [01:13] <xales> especially because vundo exploits a hole in java
#236 [01:13] <Xaviergmail> are gold weapons better than iron?
#237 [01:13] <Diablothein> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-vundo-virtumonde
#238 [01:13] <xales> no
#239 [01:13] <xales> gold = wood
#240 [01:13] <xales> Diablothein: thats vundo, not vundofix or whateer
#241 [01:13] <Xaviergmail> o
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#243 [01:13] <xales> what he has is a fake vundo remover
#244 [01:13] <xales> hehe
#245 [01:13] <Diablothein> Shut up and read it.
#246 [01:14] <Kealper> to scare you a bit, that could have a keylogger in it..it might be getting all your logins and credit card info
#247 [01:14] <fruffie> its emoved viruses before
#248 [01:14] <Diablothein> It is about ALL of the vundo trojans.
#249 [01:14] <xales> fruffie: it would have lied to you then
#250 [01:14] <Diablothein> it's scareware.
#251 [01:14] <Demesthenos> So yeah, minecraft skins on are working very weird on my server..
#252 [01:14] <xales> Diablothein: its not vundo, its a fake tool to remove vundo; I don't think its related
#253 [01:14] <xales> anyway
#254 [01:14] <Diablothein> It's related, scareware.
#255 [01:14] <fruffie> i scan using avast all the time
#256 [01:14] <Kealper> Demesthenos: what are they (not) doing?
#257 [01:14] <Demesthenos> Randomly showing the custom skin, randomly the default
#258 [01:15] <Kealper> O.o
#259 [01:15] <Demesthenos> I run a VPS dedicated, there are 3 players on right now
#260 [01:15] <Kealper> indeed that would be weird
#261 [01:15] <xales> does everyone see the skin issue, or just you
#262 [01:15] <Demesthenos> we all have custom skins, one person can't see mine but the others
#263 [01:15] <Diablothein> Anyways, fruffie, download this, run it, update it, and then scan your computer with it: http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php
#264 [01:15] <xales> Diablothein: I already told him to install AVG
#265 [01:15] <fruffie> i just installed AVG D:
#266 [01:15] <xales> installing 2 AVs is probably bad
#267 [01:16] <Diablothein> It's not an antivirus
#268 [01:16] <xales> fruffie: run a full scan
#269 [01:16] <xales> Diablothein: he has clamwin, avg, and microsoft essentials now
#270 [01:16] <xales> i think its fine
#271 [01:16] <Demesthenos> hrm, lets put it this way, Player A can't see my skin, but can see player B's skin. Player B can see my skin and player A's skin. I currently can only see player B's skin, but before I restarted minecraft to try and get them both to see mine, I could see both.
#272 [01:16] <xales> >.>
#273 [01:16] <Kealper> lol
#274 [01:16] <fruffie> i run scans with windows ecurity essentials and thats not enough?
#275 [01:16] <xales> fruffie: windows essentials is garbage
#276 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#277 [01:16] <xales> windows anything is garbage
#278 [01:16] <Diablothein> Anything that is supported by Windows is a failure, including Windows itself.
#279 [01:16] <fruffie> yea i figured.
#280 [01:16] <xales> indeed
#281 [01:17] <fruffie> you 2 linux?
#282 [01:17] <Demesthenos> The only constant so far, through restarting server and client, is that Player A can't see my skin lol
#283 [01:17] <xales> gotta wonder, a company with that much money can't make one decent program
#284 [01:17] <Diablothein> Now listen to someone who has dealt with over 50 cases of scareware this season and download Malwarebytes Anti-Malware.
#285 [01:17] <xales> fruffie: I use linux when I can, but to play games some only work on windows >.>
#286 [01:17] <Diablothein> xales, wine.
#287 [01:17] <xales> Diablothein: he already has enough garbage running
#288 [01:17] <xales> very few games (especially steam games) run under wine
#289 [01:17] <Diablothein> xales, mbam is NOT garbage.
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#291 [01:18] <xales> mbam?
#292 [01:18] <Demesthenos> any ideas on the skin issue?
#293 [01:18] <Kealper> i think "garbage" was figurative and not literal
#294 [01:18] <xales> oh
#295 [01:18] <fruffie> do you program your own linux or do you use the standard one
#296 [01:18] <xales> indeed, kealper
#297 [01:18] <fruffie> i said that wrong
#298 [01:18] <xales> fruffie: there is no standard linux
#299 [01:18] <xales> linux is the linux kernel; various distributions bundle the kernel with other programs
#300 [01:18] <fruffie> theres one which many people use
#301 [01:18] <xales> there are many which many people use
#302 [01:18] <Diablothein> MalwareBytes Anti-Malware, read the capital letters.
#303 [01:19] <fruffie> GOD DAMNIT I HAVE # ANTI VIRUS SOFTWARE
#304 [01:19] <fruffie> 3
#305 [01:19] <xales> Diablothein: I didn't mean anything bad about it, I mean that he has enough anti-(badthing) already
#306 [01:19] <Kealper> speaking of all this mbam.....
#307 [01:19] * Kealper runs it on his server
#307 [01:19] <buddy1987> ok, my computer is having a problem executing batch files which are vital in minecraft... when I click a batch file it brings up a DOS screen and immediately exits... any clue what the issue is?
#308 [01:19] <Kealper> been like a year since i checked that stuff
#309 [01:19] <xales> buddy1987: bad batch file
#310 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> What does the batch file contain?
#311 [01:20] <buddy1987> it is all batch files...
#312 [01:20] <xales> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com
#313 [01:20] <fruffie> ok i finished my scan and i have nothing bad on here
#314 [01:20] <xales> buddy1987: then your antivirus or system administrator is blocking them from working
#315 [01:20] <fruffie> virus or malware wise
#316 [01:20] <Kealper> 90% sure he does not have java in his env vars and it's trying to start java
#317 [01:20] <xales> Kealper: he reinstalled java, also it doesn't use env vars to start when you launch from a jar
#318 [01:20] <Kealper> or what xales said
#319 [01:20] <xales> oh
#320 [01:21] <xales> derp
#321 [01:21] <xales> wrong person
#322 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#323 [01:21] <xales> anyway
#324 [01:21] <Diablothein> Yeah, but will you pay attention for a moment? I had a virus on my computer once back when I used Windows, and I ran the best of the best antivirus software, Kaspersky Antivirus. It got in, and I couldn't do anything. Friend recommended that, showed me how to install it, bypassing the virus' security overrides, and it got rid of the virus my antivirus software couldn't.
#325 [01:21] <Kealper> lul
#326 [01:21] <xales> Diablothein: fine, ._. i dunno
#327 [01:21] <xales> you help him then
#328 [01:21] <buddy1987> well the batch version of the server would not execute the other day... and any mod pack batch files for my server... an admin on here had to create me an exe version of the minecraft server
#329 [01:21] <fruffie> ok ive figured its not a virus problem now what?
#330 [01:21] <fruffie> reinstall java?
#331 [01:21] <buddy1987> how can I disable the system administrater?
#332 [01:21] <xales> fruffie: no you haven't
#333 [01:22] <fruffie> i just scanned 3 times
#334 [01:22] <xales> the virus your talking about exploits java, it is probably the issue
#335 [01:22] <fruffie> once with avg
#336 [01:22] <xales> try with malwarebytes
#337 [01:22] <xales> ._.
#338 [01:22] <Kealper> buddy1987: have you had this issue before? i think i remember you....lol
#339 [01:22] <Diablothein> fruffie, heed the Devil's words. install Malwarebytes: http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php
#340 [01:22] <xales> buddy1987: paste a batch file for us on...
#341 [01:22] <xales> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com
#342 [01:22] <xales> Kealper: do you want my pretty pastebin script?
#343 [01:22] <Demesthenos> lol, now all I can see is my skin, and still nobody else can see mine. I reconnected once
#344 [01:23] <Kealper> lol, is it like /pastebin or something?
#345 [01:23] <buddy1987> well, yes the other day... and the other admin created an exe version of the server that was successfully executable... but no other batch files work...
#346 [01:23] <xales> Demesthenos: tried restarting the server?
#347 [01:23] <xales> Kealper: yes
#348 [01:23] <Kealper> xD
#349 [01:23] <Demesthenos> yeah
#350 [01:23] <xales> buddy1987: they didn't create anything, they just gave you a link
#351 [01:23] <xales> paste once of the batch files on pastebin please
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#353 [01:23] <Demesthenos> not a hard reboot on the server itself, but I restarted the minecraft server
#354 [01:23] <xales> Demesthenos: try creating a new world
#355 [01:24] <xales> you can keep the current one
#356 [01:24] <buddy1987> @xales... he said he was creating it... it was an exe version of the classic server
#357 [01:24] <xales> just change the world= line in server.properties
#358 [01:24] <xales> buddy1987: oh, your using classic server? who 'created' it >.>
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#360 [01:24] <buddy1987> ya... and I cannot remember who it was...
#361 [01:24] <Kealper> buddy1987: that exe...is the icon a royal blue with an A?
#362 [01:24] <xales> also, please do what ive asked 3 times now. pastebin one of the batch files
#363 [01:25] <xales> ._.
#364 [01:25] <buddy1987> I believe so..
#365 [01:25] <Kealper> 90% sure i'm the one who made it for you the other day
#366 [01:25] <buddy1987> ok xales
#367 [01:25] <fruffie> do you guys work for notch and mojang?
#368 [01:25] <xales> nope
#369 [01:25] <fruffie> freewill/
#370 [01:25] <Diablothein> nope
#371 [01:25] <fruffie> ?
#372 [01:25] <xales> yes
#373 [01:25] <fruffie> oh thats very kind of you
#374 [01:26] <Kealper> ok then....the lowdown: buddy1987's computer hates batch files...it tries to run them but does not interpret them at all
#375 [01:26] <Diablothein> I'm just a guy who hates the thing about trees not growing close together... :|
#376 [01:26] <fruffie> lol trees can grow close together
#377 [01:26] <xales> Kealper: antivirus sometimes blocks them
#378 [01:26] <Diablothein> fruffie, not the type of close I'm doing.
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#380 [01:26] <xales> as well as tools that a system admin may install to keep people from using em
#381 [01:27] <Kealper> but the weird thing is that it does open them....atleast it tries, but it just doesn't interpret anything in there so it promptly closes
#382 [01:27] <buddy1987> http://pastebin.com/cT0SZaLw
#383 [01:27] <xales> Kealper: thats what the AVs do, they stop invokation of cmd.exe
#384 [01:27] <buddy1987> that is the pastebin for the coding of one of the batch files
#385 [01:27] <fruffie> ok 0 threats have been found
#386 [01:27] <Kealper> well then TIL lol
#387 [01:27] <xales> well buddy1987 thats no a batch file to begin with
#388 [01:27] <xales> thats a shell script
#389 [01:27] <Diablothein> With Malwarebytes full scan?
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#391 [01:28] <xales> Diablothein: rootkit
#392 [01:28] <buddy1987> but the file extension is .bat
#393 [01:28] <fruffie> yes
#394 [01:28] <xales> malware may not be able to detect one thats already fully inside windows shit
#395 [01:28] <fruffie> with malware bytes free edition
#396 [01:28] <Diablothein> It will
#397 [01:28] <xales> buddy1987: doesn't matter. I can rename my shopping list to .exe, doesn't make it an exe
#398 [01:28] <Diablothein> If it doesn't find anything, there is nothing.
#399 [01:28] <fruffie> ok...so its not a malware problem...
#400 [01:28] <Kealper> wait a tick
#401 [01:28] <buddy1987> oh ok... well how do I disable system administrator?
#402 [01:29] <xales> system administrator isn't a program
#403 [01:29] <xales> ._.
#404 [01:29] <Kealper> buddy1987: you renamed that .sh file to .bat and tried running it?
#405 [01:29] <xales> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_administrator
#406 [01:29] <fruffie> uninstall system admin and you'll be good to go
#407 [01:29] <xales> Kealper: its also for a survival server it looks like
#408 [01:29] <buddy1987> because I can even run those files as admin and still the same result
#409 [01:29] <xales> buddy1987: that doesn't matter
#410 [01:29] <fruffie> just DL more ram. thats what you need
#411 [01:29] <xales> Kealper: it would exit like that if the file wasn't found
#412 [01:30] <xales> fruffie: if your not going to be helpful, leave :/
#413 [01:30] <Kealper> xales: yes, yes it would.....
#414 [01:30] <buddy1987> @kealper no I didn't rename it... it already said .bat
#415 [01:30] <xales> buddy1987: where did you get it from
#416 [01:30] <Kealper> damn i derped so hard the other night i think i'm just going to give up for tonight lol
#417 [01:30] <xales> Kealper: no
#418 [01:30] <xales> i need you here
#419 [01:30] <xales> don't leave
#420 [01:30] <xales> I wont be here alone
#421 [01:30] <Kealper> fine, i'll take some time off some other day
#422 [01:31] <fruffie> what do i do now?
#423 [01:31] <buddy1987> I downloaded it from the classic server list on the minecraft minipedia
#424 [01:31] <Kealper> can i get that pastebin script? lol
#425 [01:31] <xales> buddy1987: that does something entirely different; its not even for CLassic
#426 [01:31] <xales> http://pastebin.com/cT0SZaLw
#427 [01:32] <Kealper> wrong paste? lol
#428 [01:32] <fruffie> xales:what do i do now?
#429 [01:32] <xales> fruffie: its a java problem; if you don't think its a malware problem and don't want to listen, there is nothing I can help you do
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#431 [01:32] <Demesthenos> damnit lol, I made the new world and the player who couldn't see mine, and who's skin I couldn't see, just logged off of vent and the game without a word
#432 [01:32] <xales> because the only other problem would be something that would be virtually impossible to diagnose over the internet
#433 [01:32] <fruffie> ive done everything you've told me to do!
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#435 [01:33] <xales> fruffie: you keep coming back with "its not a virus problem" ._.
#436 [01:33] <fruffie> because thats what the scan comes up with?
#437 [01:33] <xales> delete the entire folder C:\Program Files\VundoFixTool
#438 [01:33] <fruffie> it snot there for in x86
#439 [01:34] <fruffie> *or in x86
#440 [01:34] <xales> ._.
#441 [01:34] <xales> yes it is
#442 [01:34] <xales> 01:05:05 < fruffie> C:\Program Files\VundoFixTool\VundoFixTool.srv.exe: Adware.Fakesec-86 FOUND
#443 [01:35] <fruffie> you want me to check there\
#444 [01:35] <fruffie> ?
#445 [01:35] <Kealper> yes fruffie
#446 [01:35] <fruffie> there is no folder named vundofixtool in program files
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#448 [01:36] <xales> ._.
#449 [01:36] <xales> do you have show hidden folders on?
#450 [01:36] <fruffie> ya
#451 [01:36] <xales> are you sure?
#452 [01:36] <xales> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial130.html
#453 [01:36] <xales> do that
#454 [01:38] <Diablothein> So... just threw up... :|
#455 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Ew
#456 [01:38] <xales> so GreyVulpine, feeling unhelpful tonight? :\
#457 [01:39] <fruffie> ok i did that
#458 [01:39] <xales> also haha, your good at ninja Grey
#459 [01:39] <xales> 01:38:29 <xales> where is Grey when we need him
#460 [01:39] <xales> thats 5 seconds before you said Ew
#461 [01:39] <xales> :P
#462 [01:39] <xales> fruffie: do you see that now?
#463 [01:39] <fruffie> why do i now have two semi-see through files named desktop on my desktop
#464 [01:39] <Kealper> telling you that they are hidden
#465 [01:39] <Diablothein> xales, should've seen earlier, Kealper said Linux, and I jumped in.
#466 [01:40] <fruffie> oh ok
#467 [01:40] <Kealper> there should be thumbs.db and desktop.ini'
#468 [01:40] <Kealper> they are not needed for anything we're talking about, i just wanted to look cool
#469 [01:40] <fruffie> ok i checked its not there
#470 [01:40] <buddy1987> kealper can you help me with this one? any time I try to run a custom server such as mcsharp or any variants I get an issue where it immediately stops working.. meaning I get a windows message that "said program" stops working
#471 [01:41] <Diablothein> I'm gonna give that tree one more minute to make a sapling grow before I set it on fire.
#472 [01:41] <Kealper> buddy1987: to the PM window!
#473 [01:41] <xales> fruffie: thats probably a rootkit then. if nothing else found it
#474 [01:41] <xales> and it is almost 100% the cause of java not working
#475 [01:41] <fruffie> rootkit/
#476 [01:41] <fruffie> t?
#477 [01:41] <xales> you should take your computer to a local computer repair shop
#478 [01:42] <xales> fruffie: it means you got a virus and didn't have any protection
#479 [01:42] <xales> and it merged with Windows
#480 [01:42] <xales> there is no way to remove it without reinstalling Windows
#481 [01:42] <Kealper> rootkits ftw
#482 [01:42] <fruffie> i have a version of windows7...
#483 [01:42] <Demesthenos> Ok so my friend came back
#484 [01:42] <Demesthenos> Still can't see his skin, and he still can't see mine
#485 [01:42] <xales> fruffie: you have to reinstall, not upgrade
#486 [01:42] <xales> upgrading will not fix it
#487 [01:43] <fruffie> mk
#488 [01:43] <xales> blowing away the drive and installing windows 7 with nothing on the drive would fix it
#489 [01:43] <xales> but not doing an upgrade install, instead of a full install
#490 [01:43] <fruffie> bye now thanks a lot for your patience
#491 [01:43] <Demesthenos> so making a new world didn't help :(
#492 [01:43] <xales> fruffie: your welcome. good luck
#493 [01:43] <Diablothein> Goodbye tree!
#494 [01:44] <xales> Demesthenos: :\ does the server have some kind of outbound firewall?
#495 [01:44] <Demesthenos> no, I'm pretty sure it doesn't anyway
#496 [01:44] <Diablothein> wow, wood burns much faster now.
#497 [01:44] <Demesthenos> it's a VPS
#498 [01:45] <Demesthenos> when I got it all it had on it was CentOS
#499 [01:45] <Demesthenos> and all I put on it was minecraft server, adminmod, and gellikwhatever his name is mod
#500 [01:45] <xales> it could be a mod
#501 [01:45] <xales> try running it without any mods
#502 [01:45] <xales> and see if thats the issue
#503 [01:45] <Demesthenos> I disabled them when he updated the damage in multiplayer
#504 [01:46] <xales> all of them?
#505 [01:46] <Demesthenos> yeah
#506 [01:46] <xales> hmm
#507 [01:46] <Demesthenos> erm, I might still have reilliks
#508 [01:46] <xales> try redownloading the server in a new folder
#509 [01:46] <xales> and running it from there
#510 [01:46] <Demesthenos> but that's not so much a mod as a shell
#511 [01:47] <xales> you can use the same server.properties if you want
#512 [01:47] <Demesthenos> yeah, I'll have to copy the world file won't it?
#513 [01:47] <Demesthenos> won't I*
#514 [01:47] <xales> no
#515 [01:47] <xales> generate a new world with the new server
#516 [01:47] <Demesthenos> k, just a sec
#517 [01:47] <xales> just download the .jar fresh and into a new folder
#518 [01:47] <xales> and try running it
#519 [01:48] <Demesthenos> lol, what's the command to download it again?
#520 [01:48] <xales> umm
#521 [01:48] <xales> !server
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#523 [01:48] <xales> wget http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar
#524 [01:48] <xales> is the command
#525 [01:49] <xales> no space there i put an extra one
#526 [01:49] <xales> >.>
#527 [01:49] <xales> wget http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar
#528 [01:49] <xales> that
#529 [01:49] <genshou> owo back
#530 [01:50] <Demesthenos> ok, and how do I start it?
#531 [01:50] <Demesthenos> I'm just used to using reilliks shell I guess
#532 [01:50] <Demesthenos> I suck with linux :/
#533 [01:50] <xales> oh
#534 [01:50] <xales> umm
#535 [01:50] <xales> java -jar minecraft_server.jar
#536 [01:51] <xales> you should put the ram things on it
#537 [01:51] <xales> but its fine for testing it for 5 seconds
#538 [01:51] <SycoPrime> Does anyone know the answer to, or the right place to look for the answer to: Modloader in SMP?
#539 [01:51] <Demesthenos> ram things?
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#541 [01:51] <Demesthenos> lol, ok I'll test it, but the player went afk again, give me a few
#542 [01:51] <Kealper> TrueWolves: i will love you forever if you do a favor for me (no homo)
#543 [01:52] <xales> SycoPrime: google?
#544 [01:52] <Kealper> that is ofcourse, if you are there....lol
#545 [01:53] <SycoPrime> Trying google, haven't found anything that answers it yet :/
#546 [01:53] <TrueWolves> err... what?
#547 [01:54] <Kealper> lol
#548 [01:55] <MK> Hey guys when I made my map it was a winter level back in alpha, now it stopped snowing and etc. Will there be other biomes in my map?
#549 [01:55] <Demesthenos> yes, but you'll likely have to go VERY VERY far to find them
#550 [01:55] <MK> I didn't travel very far in my map, I mostly built up around a single area
#551 [01:56] <xales> MK: depends on when you made it
#552 [01:56] <MK> it was before there were biomes
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#554 [01:56] <Demesthenos> I have the same thing, a winter map made well before biomes, and just a few days ago somebody found a desert/island biome
#555 [01:56] <MK> before persistant inventory in SMP
#556 [01:56] <xales> I don't think maps made before biomes will use them, but I'm not sure
#557 [01:56] <Demesthenos> you have to go very far
#558 [01:56] <MK> Is there then a sort of "edge" where the snow/ice line stops?
#559 [01:56] <Demesthenos> yeah
#560 [01:57] <Demesthenos> on ours it looks like somebody just chopped the world
#561 [01:57] <MK> lol
#562 [01:57] <genshou> xd
#563 [01:57] <Demesthenos> a sheer cliff/wall and at the bottom of it is water that leads to sand
#564 [01:57] <genshou> yay, I finally got my minecart system in/out of my mine working xD
#565 [01:58] <Kealper> woohoo...full house tonight
#566 [01:58] <Kealper> !unload mod_op
#567 [01:58] <genshou> took me a bit to get the hang of boosters... those things are weird <_<
#568 [01:58] <Kealper> ok then, doesn't need that anymore
#569 [01:58] <xales> we need some
#570 [01:59] <xales> of the ops here in #minecraft
#571 [01:59] <xales> theres often none on or the ones on do nothing ._.
#572 [01:59] <Kealper> lol
#573 [02:00] <xales> unless extremely provoked
#574 [02:00] <xales> it took Miclee being opped to even get the rules list updated
#575 [02:00] <Kealper> :/
#576 [02:00] <Miclee> Hm?
#577 [02:01] <xales> Miclee: none of the ops did anything towards actively improving the channel, really
#578 [02:01] <xales> till you came along <3
#579 [02:01] <SycoPrime> No one has tried to load modloader mods in their SMP server and can at least say whether or not they found it to be doable?
#580 [02:02] <xales> try looking on the forums :\
#581 [02:02] <SycoPrime> I have. They lack definitive answers. :/
#582 [02:03] <Kealper> isn't modloader sp only?
#583 [02:03] <xales> it wouldn't work on a server if it was singleplayer only
#584 [02:03] <SycoPrime> Yes, but does it work on a server is the question.
#585 [02:03] <xales> no
#586 [02:04] <Kealper> probably not
#587 [02:04] <xales> its single player only
#588 [02:04] <xales> therefor it will not work on a server
#589 [02:04] <Kealper> the client and the server are quite different
#590 [02:04] <SycoPrime> Okay. That answers the question.
#591 [02:05] <Demesthenos> so new server folder new world, still same problem with the skin
#592 [02:06] <xales> what company is the VPS with?
#593 [02:07] <Kealper> yeah, methinks the server is failing to send the skins to clients so the clients are defaulting to the normal one
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#596 [02:09] <Demesthenos> it's with HazeNET
#597 [02:09] <Demesthenos> well, out of the 3 of us, the only problem is between me and 1 other
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#599 [02:09] <Demesthenos> I can't see his, he can't see mine
#600 [02:09] <MK> Wow so I had this huge mass of leaves that grew before leaves stopped falling
#601 [02:09] <Demesthenos> we can both see the 3rd players, and the 3rd player can see both of ours
#602 [02:09] <MK> and they weren't falling now, so I go over and break one
#603 [02:09] <MK> and the entire mass starts to pop out of existance dropping saplings everywhere
#604 [02:09] <MK> very pretty
#605 [02:09] <Kealper> lol
#606 [02:10] <MK> There's one last piece
#607 [02:10] <MK> and I'm starting at it waiting
#608 [02:10] <MK> and it just didn't go away before the sun went down. I wonder if it will stay there.
#609 [02:10] <genshou> Is it adjacent to any block, or just floating in midair?
#610 [02:10] <MK> midair
#611 [02:10] <Kealper> kill it with fire :P
#612 [02:10] <Kealper> (literally)
#613 [02:11] <xales> Kealper
#614 [02:11] <xales> disclaimer screen
#615 [02:11] <xales> gogo
#616 [02:11] <xales> off to work with you
#617 [02:11] <MK> I go back to where it was and there's 2 saplings on the floor o_O
#618 [02:11] <Demesthenos> so any ideas?
#619 [02:11] <xales> Demesthenos: is the network connection on the server stable?
#620 [02:11] <xales> it seems like the server fails to load it or fails to send it to the client
#621 [02:12] <Demesthenos> yeah, it's been very stable
#622 [02:14] <Xaviergmail> WOW THIS IS BAD
#623 [02:14] <Xaviergmail> oop sorry
#624 [02:14] <Xaviergmail> i got a new map
#625 [02:14] <xales> ._.
#626 [02:14] <Xaviergmail> and it's north pole
#627 [02:14] <Xaviergmail> -_-
#628 [02:15] <xales> so?
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#630 [02:15] <genshou> If you can find at least one tree and some coal, you're fine xD
#631 [02:15] <Xaviergmail> ^ problem
#632 [02:16] <xales> make a new world then
#633 [02:16] <genshou> Wander around a bit, or check out your map in Cartograph
#634 [02:16] <Xaviergmail> ima cartpgraph it se
#635 [02:16] <Xaviergmail> sec
#636 [02:16] <genshou> That's how I found the one cactus block that spawned in my entire 6 MB world.
#637 [02:16] <genshou> >.<
#638 [02:16] <Xaviergmail> XD
#639 [02:16] <Xaviergmail> i got a 20 mb world
#640 [02:16] <MK> Is the spawnpoint on the corner of a chunk?
#641 [02:16] <Xaviergmail> only 4 clay spots
#642 [02:17] <Xaviergmail> chunk?
#643 [02:17] <genshou> Reeds were easier to find, as there's a swamp behind the hill near my base.
#644 [02:17] <MK> a 16x16 block.
#645 [02:17] <Kealper> MK: i think it's totally random
#646 [02:17] <Diablothein> I accidentally spread my 6 mb world into a 12 because I got lost :|
#647 [02:17] <genshou> lol Diab
#648 [02:17] <Xaviergmail> lol
#649 [02:17] <genshou> I'm gonna build epic minecart tracks around mine :>
#650 [02:17] <Xaviergmail> yeee
#651 [02:17] <Xaviergmail> on my notrh pole
#652 [02:17] <Xaviergmail> im gonna use this tool i just dled
#653 [02:18] <Xaviergmail> invedit
#654 [02:18] <Xaviergmail> and create hto stuff
#655 [02:18] <Xaviergmail> :D
#656 [02:18] <genshou> Yay! Cactus is fun :3
#657 [02:18] * genshou throws away stack after stack of cobblestone
#657 [02:18] <xales> lol
#658 [02:18] <Xaviergmail> :)(
#659 [02:18] <genshou> Wait, I should turn these into smooth stone and fill a 2x1 treasure chest with it
#660 [02:18] <genshou> xD
#661 [02:19] <genshou> (I already have a 2x1 chest full of cobble)
#662 [02:19] <xales> lol
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#664 [02:19] <Diablothein> to bed, I go...
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#667 [02:21] <Kealper> ReCaptcha FAIL!!!!! http://i.imgur.com/UuOHo.jpg
#668 [02:21] <Demesthenos> so yeah, back to the skin thing
#669 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#670 [02:22] <Demesthenos> it still seems to just be between myself and the other player, no amount of disconnects or restarts or whole new server folder has changed it :/
#671 [02:22] <Kealper> Demesthenos: have you tried it with other servers?
#672 [02:22] <Demesthenos> no, only play on this one
#673 [02:22] <Kealper> to mc.kealper.com then!
#674 [02:22] <Kealper> lol
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#676 [02:25] <TrueWolves> Hey Kealper, what servers would you suggest for me and my some 8 friends?
#677 [02:25] <xales> chanserv fail
#678 [02:25] <Kealper> TrueWolves: i don't know any big servers, i've only got my little one :S
#679 [02:26] <TrueWolves> I don't like big servers
#680 [02:26] <TrueWolves> got banned from a mid sized one while on my break
#681 [02:26] <Kealper> O.o
#682 [02:26] <Kealper> i'd say you could use mine, but it might blow up with everyone on it lol
#683 [02:28] <TrueWolves> Eh, it won't have more then 4, and I can always ask one or two to leave at a time if it becomes too much, but if you don't want to risk it no worries :D
#684 [02:28] <Kealper> oh, it could do 4 at once lol
#685 [02:28] <Kealper> most i've tried it with is 6
#686 [02:29] <Demesthenos> what are the stats on your server?
#687 [02:29] <Kealper> mine is garbage for another week or so, just a 1.8ghz single core sempron with 1 gig of ddr
#688 [02:30] <Kealper> the one i'll be getting and soon as i rip the old hdd out and give it to the owner is a 2.8ghz dual core athlon with 4 gigs of ddr2
#689 [02:31] <Demesthenos> nice
#690 [02:31] <Demesthenos> what's the bandwidth?
#691 [02:31] <Kealper> my home internet, so 24/8 down/up
#692 [02:32] <Kealper> seems to do fine for serving a small server, i don't use my upload for anything else
#693 [02:32] <Demesthenos> ajj
#694 [02:32] <Demesthenos> ahh
#695 [02:32] * Demesthenos nods
#695 [02:32] <Demesthenos> I'm pretty pleased with HazeNET
#696 [02:32] <Kealper> TrueWolves: if you wanted to check out my server, the addy is mc.kealper.com
#697 [02:33] <TrueWolves> one momment, hopping on.
#698 [02:33] <Xaviergmail> is there any ways to put snow on grass?
#699 [02:33] <Xaviergmail> or dirt?
#700 [02:35] <xales> no
#701 [02:35] <Xaviergmail> :(
#702 [02:35] <TrueWolves> I really like the "kit" mod, it's one of the first mods I like.
#703 [02:35] <Demesthenos> what folder is the .minecraft in again?
#704 [02:35] <Xaviergmail> appdata
#705 [02:36] <Xaviergmail> xales, can it do like grass? i kinda screwed up my place thing here :/
#706 [02:36] <xales> no
#707 [02:37] <Xaviergmail> fux
#708 [02:38] * Xaviergmail cries
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#709 [02:38] <xales> so Kealper, on my rant about most annoying trolls using mibbit
#710 [02:38] <xales> 02:37:29 -!- Teh_one [Mibbit@c-76-120-99-233.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #minecraft
#711 [02:38] <xales> 02:37:36 < Teh_one> sup bitches
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#713 [02:38] <xales> nice way to introduce yourself
#714 [02:38] <xales> ._.
#715 [02:39] <Kealper> oh yes, so classy lol
#716 [02:40] <sinedeviance> hi all
#717 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Oh no.
#718 [02:40] <sinedeviance> anybody know of a fix for the linux + ATI minecraft crash?
#719 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> linux + ATI crash?
#720 [02:40] <sinedeviance> yes
#721 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific?
#722 [02:40] <xales> buying an nvidia card would be a fix
#723 [02:40] <xales> <3
#724 [02:40] <sinedeviance> GreyVulpine: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/ubuntu_sun_java_ati_hd5850_fglrx_drivers_crash
#725 [02:40] <sinedeviance> it's all there. tons of people are affected.
#726 [02:41] <sinedeviance> cant find a fix though
#727 [02:41] <Cial> i thought that Nvidia and Linux were worse than ATI and Linux
#728 [02:41] <sinedeviance> for reference i also have an HD5850
#729 [02:41] <xales> Cial: I haven't had issues
#730 [02:41] <sinedeviance> Cial: this is a java-specific problem.
#731 [02:41] <KART35|iPod> ?
#732 [02:41] <sinedeviance> Cial: ATI works otherwise just fine in linux.
#733 [02:41] <Cial> 'k
#734 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Oh right.. I think I saw that somewhere.
#735 [02:42] <KART35|iPod> linux works wonders with my hardware...
#736 [02:42] <sinedeviance> actually... it MIGHT be a minecraft-specific problem. i searched for the error string but the only results coming up are for minecraft
#737 [02:42] <KART35|iPod> and i have nvidia gfx in both boxes
#738 [02:42] <xales> whats the exception name sine
#739 [02:42] <genshou> Man, when I first started I was thinking I'd use a stone pick for basic mining
#740 [02:42] <genshou> That changed the first time I tried cutting a passage with a diamond one :D
#741 [02:42] <sinedeviance> xales: SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb7721424, pid=1898, tid=1544612720
#742 [02:42] <Demesthenos> anyone know why my system idle process sometimes randomly uses up 98-99% of my cpu?
#743 [02:43] <Demesthenos> lol
#744 [02:43] <Kealper> Demesthenos: does this work for you? http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=Kealper
#745 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> Because it's idling
#746 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> That's how it works.
#747 [02:43] <sinedeviance> xales: Problematic frame: C [+0x424] __kernel_vsyscall+0x10
#748 [02:43] <Demesthenos> Grey, whenever it goes that high, my fan goes nutzo
#749 [02:43] <sinedeviance> xales: aka lwjgl issue.
#750 [02:43] * GreyVulpine blinks
#750 [02:43] <Beakaa> Do you guys know if accounts can get randomly disabled on mc?
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#752 [02:44] <Kealper> they don't
#753 [02:44] <Beakaa> Odd
#754 [02:44] <Beakaa> Stopped playing since the beta update and tried logging on tonight
#755 [02:44] <sinedeviance> oh well... i guess minecraft in linux is a no-go for me then
#756 [02:44] <Beakaa> Password randomly changed
#757 [02:44] <Kealper> O.o
#758 [02:44] <Demesthenos> Kealper, yeah but I'm just seeing a black box
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#760 [02:44] <Beakaa> MojangSupport isn't giving that much help either
#761 [02:44] <Demesthenos> nm, now it loaded
#762 [02:44] * fogWork snorts
#762 [02:45] <Kealper> ello
#763 [02:45] <sinedeviance> Beakaa: mojang support is a joke tbh
#764 [02:45] <Beakaa> Yeah...
#765 [02:45] <fogWork> Hey Grey & Kealper
#766 [02:45] <Beakaa> Sucks if i'm gonna have to buy the game again rofl
#767 [02:46] <xales> oh Beakaa
#768 [02:46] <xales> some people have been getting accounts bruteforced
#769 [02:46] <Beakaa> Really?
#770 [02:46] <xales> if you had a short/weak password, thats probably why
#771 [02:47] <Beakaa> Damn
#772 [02:47] <Beakaa> It was like 7 characters
#773 [02:47] <Cial> mine hasnt
#774 [02:47] <Cial> and its a simple word
#775 [02:47] <fogWork> Total amount of people at work here today: 2 -_-
#776 [02:47] <Cial> damn im lucky
#777 [02:47] <xales> well
#778 [02:47] <Beakaa> Can't you email Notch about stuff like that?
#779 [02:47] <xales> very few got bruteforced
#780 [02:47] <Beakaa> Wouldn't really matter though, he gets like 1000's a day I bet
#781 [02:47] <xales> most of the people got fooled by phishing
#782 [02:47] <genshou> I don't remember what my password is xD
#783 [02:47] <xales> I'll talk to jeb tonight
#784 [02:47] <xales> about it
#785 [02:47] <genshou> I could guess it, probably
#786 [02:48] <Beakaa> Alright
#787 [02:48] <xales> if he is on tonight anyway
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#789 [02:48] <Beakaa> Thanks! :D
#790 [02:48] <xales> sure
#791 [02:48] <fogWork> Kealper: want to see something funny? :P
#792 [02:49] <xales> he does
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#794 [02:49] <Kealper> maybeh
#795 [02:49] <Xaviergmail> ooh..
#796 [02:49] <Xaviergmail> this sucks
#797 [02:49] <Xaviergmail> i just installed a silver door
#798 [02:49] <Xaviergmail> and i need a lever
#799 [02:49] <Xaviergmail> -_-
#800 [02:49] <Cial> iron
#801 [02:49] <xales> Kealper: http://i.imgur.com/D2K3Z.png
#802 [02:49] <Xaviergmail> w/e cial
#803 [02:49] <Cial> just saying
#804 [02:49] <Kealper> O.o
#805 [02:49] <Xaviergmail> :P
#806 [02:49] <genshou> Xaviergmail, the wiki is your friend :v
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#808 [02:49] <Xaviergmail> lol :D
#809 [02:50] <Xaviergmail> im gonna instqall a pressure plate :O
#810 [02:50] <sinedeviance> oh wells, i give up. back to windows.
#811 [02:50] <Xaviergmail> sinedeviance, u tried linuyx?
#812 [02:50] <sinedeviance> Xaviergmail: you cant be serious.
#813 [02:50] <Xaviergmail> ?
#814 [02:50] <Xaviergmail> wut
#815 [02:50] <sinedeviance> i'm ON linux you foo
#816 [02:50] <Xaviergmail> orly
#817 [02:51] <Xaviergmail> linux is faster than windows for minecraft
#818 [02:51] <Xaviergmail> less lag
#819 [02:51] <Xaviergmail> <3
#820 [02:51] <sinedeviance> yarly. also please learn to type like an intelligent human being, thanks.
#821 [02:51] <Xaviergmail> nowai
#822 [02:51] <sinedeviance> <Xaviergmail> linux is faster than windows for minecraft <-- except ... when it doesn't WORK on linux.
#823 [02:51] <Kealper> Xaviergmail: you sure do like typing incomplete sentances :S
#824 [02:51] <KART35|iPod> Xaviergmail: and no crashing while in multiplayer
#825 [02:51] <Xaviergmail> i had linux mint 0
#826 [02:51] <Xaviergmail> 10*
#827 [02:52] <Xaviergmail> it never cracshed and always worked
#828 [02:52] <fogWork> Kealper: found that PM with the link? :P
#829 [02:52] <Cial> i have it on an ubuntu flash drive and it works great :D
#830 [02:52] <KART35|iPod> :D
#831 [02:52] <Kealper> fogWork: yea, just running around doing 10 different things right now, i've got it open in a tab though lol
#832 [02:52] <fogWork> Ah ;)
#833 [02:52] <Xaviergmail> but since I got a new ipod touch for xmas, I needed to set it up using itunes
#834 [02:52] <fogWork> I'm going to moderate it in a while, I think :P
#835 [02:52] <Xaviergmail> and then switched back to windows
#836 [02:52] <sinedeviance> Xaviergmail: 'works for you' doesn't mean it works for everyone else. Everyone Else != You.
#837 [02:52] <Xaviergmail> i miss linux a bit
#838 [02:53] <Xaviergmail> sin which linux are you on?
#839 [02:53] <sinedeviance> Xaviergmail: also, it's called wine. try running itunes in it, it works fine.
#840 [02:53] <sinedeviance> Xaviergmail: you could also run a virtual machine with virtualbox if you dont like wine.
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#842 [02:53] <sinedeviance> Xaviergmail: in any case, if you like linux, switching back to windows just because itunes doesnt work isnt a very good reason
#843 [02:54] * fogWork misses the SPARCstation 5 with Solaris
#843 [02:54] <fogWork> ;_;
#844 [02:56] <Xaviergmail> i wanted cartographer too
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#846 [02:56] <Xaviergmail> and photoshop
#847 [02:56] <Xaviergmail> :D
#848 [02:56] <fogWork> GIMP
#849 [02:56] <Xaviergmail> ..and camtasia
#850 [02:56] <sinedeviance> photoshop CS4 runs in wine
#851 [02:56] <Xaviergmail> i hate gimp
#852 [02:57] <fogWork> ;O
#853 [02:57] <Xaviergmail> I need cs5..
#854 [02:57] <sinedeviance> and like i said, there's always virtualbox
#855 [02:57] <fogWork> *why* do you need cs5? :P
#856 [02:57] <sinedeviance> windows 7 runs in a VM very well on my system
#857 [02:57] <fogWork> Hardware accelerated image editing?
#858 [02:57] <sinedeviance> you could also do winXP if you wanted to run lightweight
#859 [02:58] <sinedeviance> fogWork: CS4 has the same acceleration though.
#860 [02:58] <sinedeviance> paint.net and GIMP are enough for my needs
#861 [02:58] <sinedeviance> i use irfanview for simple stuff like crops and resizes
#862 [02:58] <fogWork> I haven't really found any use for the hardware acceleration, apart from the graphics team that work with intensely oversized monsterimages
#863 [02:58] <sinedeviance> virtualbox seamless mode = <3
#864 [03:00] <Xaviergmail> virtualbox lags
#865 [03:00] <fogWork> Not here :P
#866 [03:01] <sinedeviance> nor here :D
#867 [03:01] <sinedeviance> intel virtualization FTW
#868 [03:02] <fogWork> Hmm, I haven't tried phpVirtualBox yet
#869 [03:02] <sinedeviance> php
#870 [03:02] <fogWork> Shame on me :P
#871 [03:02] <sinedeviance> ?
#872 [03:02] <fogWork> http://code.google.com/p/phpvirtualbox/
#873 [03:02] <sinedeviance> sigh fucking internet. brb.
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#875 [03:03] <fogWork> Wb :P
#876 [03:04] <sinedeviance> thanks, but i cant get code.google.com to load
#877 [03:04] <Xaviergmail> thats cause ur on linux
#878 [03:04] <sinedeviance> i'm using my cellphone as a modem and AT&T's DNS doesnt seem to like google.
#879 [03:04] <fogWork> ;/
#880 [03:04] <sinedeviance> Xaviergmail: i'm on windows now you fool
#881 [03:04] <Xaviergmail> :D
#882 [03:04] <xales> Google competes with AT&T
#883 [03:05] <xales> Xaviergmail: ._.
#884 [03:05] <sinedeviance> ahh cool, so it's a webmin panel for virtualbox? epic
#885 [03:05] <sinedeviance> i like torrent's webmin panel
#886 [03:06] <sinedeviance> er, transmission
#887 [03:06] <sinedeviance> sorry
#888 [03:06] <fogWork> It does no user auth apparently, so, there you go :P
#889 [03:06] <sinedeviance> D:
#890 [03:06] <sinedeviance> so it's useless basically
#891 [03:07] <sinedeviance> unless your machine is intranet-only
#892 [03:07] <fogWork> Not really
#893 [03:07] <sinedeviance> brb again
#894 [03:07] <fogWork> Easy to set it up for intranet use, or lock it if you want to remote in
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#897 [03:08] <tallest_red> Trying to update a minecraft server to current version atm. I'm finding that even under a default server.properties file and a fresh map (Rather than a restored one of our normal) I can't connect to it. The client just times out for no particular reason. Anyone else experienced this?
#898 [03:09] <xales> running windows?
#899 [03:09] <tallest_red> Yes
#900 [03:09] <xales> running on your home computer?
#901 [03:09] <tallest_red> Disabled win firewall all together. It's not a blocked port
#902 [03:09] <tallest_red> More or less. Spare desktop machine. It only runs minecraft, nothing else
#903 [03:09] <xales> are you trying to connect using your external IP?
#904 [03:09] <tallest_red> *minecraft server
#905 [03:09] <tallest_red> Local address
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#907 [03:09] <tallest_red> 192.168.*.*
#908 [03:09] <xales> have you checked it lately? they can change
#909 [03:10] <xales> when the lease times out
#910 [03:10] <tallest_red> ?
#911 [03:10] <xales> tallest_red: the local IP can change
#912 [03:10] <tallest_red> Lease? Like assigned ip from the dhcp of the router?
#913 [03:10] <xales> check what it is
#914 [03:10] <tallest_red> OH
#915 [03:10] <tallest_red> No
#916 [03:10] <xales> yeah, if its not static, when the dhcp lease times out the IP may change
#917 [03:10] <tallest_red> I have the local IP statically st
#918 [03:10] <tallest_red> set
#919 [03:11] <xales> try connecting with telnet on the minecraft port
#920 [03:11] <tallest_red> Otherwise the machine is ok. I'm connected to it right now through RDP actually
#921 [03:11] <fogWork> ROFL... news in Sweden, a woman got robbed by three people; IN WHEELCHAIRS
#922 [03:11] <xales> actually wait
#923 [03:11] <xales> what is the external ip?
#924 [03:11] <fogWork> Luckily they could be caught by the tracks in the snow :P
#925 [03:11] <tallest_red> crazy8.dyndns.info registered to my external
#926 [03:11] <xales> fogWork: I can't find a smily for how disappointing that is
#927 [03:11] <xales> !check crazy8.dyndns.info
#928 [03:12] <xales> well
#929 [03:12] <xales> it looks like its working
#930 [03:12] <tallest_red> I had been trying to update a hey0's server - however for trouble shooting I disabled all the plugins. No dice. Then tried a blank new map, no dice, then tried offical server with a blank map
#931 [03:12] <tallest_red> Which is what's up right now
#932 [03:12] <tallest_red> but when you connect the client hangs on "logging in..." and never does it
#933 [03:12] <tallest_red> Eventually times out
#934 [03:13] <xales> try browsing to
#935 [03:13] <xales> http://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=xales
#936 [03:13] <xales> in internet explorer
#937 [03:13] <xales> on the server
#938 [03:13] <Cial> nice zim reffrence
#939 [03:13] <xales> ?
#940 [03:13] <tallest_red> He's refering to my name
#941 [03:13] <xales> oh
#942 [03:14] <tallest_red> Page reports true. What is that?
#943 [03:14] <buddy1987> I just got the STUPIDEST response from my manufacturer... xales you will get a kick out of this... I tried using windows support, but was refused because I am under warranty with the company who made my computer... so I go to my computers factory support and I got refused support because they do not offer support for window, only their hardware
#944 [03:14] <xales> yup, they are good at that
#945 [03:14] <xales> not horribly surprising
#946 [03:14] <xales> try a local computer repair shop
#947 [03:14] <xales> tallest_red: for some reason
#948 [03:14] <xales> the server can't access that page
#949 [03:14] <xales> which is why it hangs on "logging in"
#950 [03:15] <xales> check firewall and stuff like that
#951 [03:15] <tallest_red> So
#952 [03:15] <xales> in fact, just try turning em all the way off to see if that fixes it
#953 [03:15] <buddy1987> well the only issue is I cannot access programs written in C# format... I try to use them and they immediately stop working, and it isn't a runtime error...
#954 [03:15] <tallest_red> You're saying it's failing at the part that checks a username against minecraft.net's DB of names?
#955 [03:15] <tallest_red> Like it might work if I put it in offline mode?
#956 [03:15] <xales> buddy1987: do you have the .net framework installed?
#957 [03:15] <buddy1987> yes, and that didn't work
#958 [03:15] <xales> tallest_red: yes. but running it in offline mode is a VERY bad idea
#959 [03:16] <xales> buddy1987: did you install the right one?
#960 [03:16] <tallest_red> Of course - not that I think that's a permanent solution. But at least it tells me what's wrong
#961 [03:16] <buddy1987> I installed the one I was given from Kealper
#962 [03:16] <xales> buddy1987: what program are you trying to run
#963 [03:16] <buddy1987> third party programs for MC
#964 [03:17] <tallest_red> I'm not sure what it could be however. As the machine running it has no 3rd party firewall software installed and the windows firewall was shutoff as part of my troubleshooting before asking.
#965 [03:17] <tallest_red> The router/nat firewall shouldn't be setup to block ANY urls at all
#966 [03:17] <buddy1987> for my classic server
#967 [03:17] <tallest_red> so...wtf would cause it
#968 [03:17] <tallest_red> :/
#969 [03:17] <xales> tallest_red: try restarting the server, also try downloading the server again
#970 [03:17] <xales> buddy1987: what specifically
#971 [03:17] <tallest_red> I have a few times actually
#972 [03:17] <buddy1987> mclawl
#973 [03:18] <tallest_red> Might help here
#974 [03:18] <tallest_red> The server console prints "[INFO] tallestred lost connection: disconnect.overflow"
#975 [03:18] <tallest_red> Upon a failed connect
#976 [03:19] <xales> hmm
#977 [03:19] <tallest_red> Loaded that url in a FF window on the server box - loads ok/reports true
#978 [03:19] <xales> I honestly have no idea >.>
#979 [03:19] <tallest_red> (before it was on my machine)
#980 [03:19] <xales> try posting on the forums
#981 [03:19] <tallest_red> x_x
#982 [03:19] <xales> oh
#983 [03:19] <xales> try IE on the server
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#985 [03:19] <xales> because IE uses the same settings java does
#986 [03:20] <tallest_red> Same, still says tree
#987 [03:20] <tallest_red> *true
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#989 [03:20] <tallest_red> (loaded IE6)
#990 [03:20] <xales> hmm
#991 [03:20] <xales> try redownloading the server
#992 [03:21] <buddy1987> xales was the I have no I dea and try posting on the forums for me? :)
#993 [03:21] <xales> buddy1987: no
#994 [03:21] <xales> um
#995 [03:21] <buddy1987> oh ok
#996 [03:21] <xales> where did you download it from
#997 [03:22] <buddy1987> I went through the minipedia page for MC under the custom server list, and clicked on mclawl from there and downloaded from the creators
#998 [03:23] <Xaviergmail> stone button vs lever?
#999 [03:23] <xales> did you follow the instructions in the youtube video for setting it up?
#1000 [03:23] <tallest_red> The only thing I can GUESS could be odd
#1001 [03:23] <tallest_red> Is that I'm using x64 XP
#1002 [03:23] <tallest_red> BUT
#1003 [03:23] <Xaviergmail> O_O
#1004 [03:23] <tallest_red> Just 32-bit java is installed. DIdn't mess with x64 java
#1005 [03:23] <buddy1987> no
#1006 [03:23] <xales> that probably wouldn't have anything to do with it tallest_red
#1007 [03:23] <xales> buddy1987: do that...
#1008 [03:23] <buddy1987> k
#1009 [03:24] <xales> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7mTe8UxkSU
#1010 [03:24] <tallest_red> Yea, just loaded a fresh minecraft_Server.jar from minecraft.net and setup the bat file to launch it. No dice, same issue.
#1011 [03:24] <tallest_red> Are there any like....package/frameworks or something that are needed? I thought just java would be needed but maybe something else too?
#1012 [03:24] <Xaviergmail> no
#1013 [03:25] <xales> tallest_red: nope
#1014 [03:25] <tallest_red> :/
#1015 [03:25] <xales> that wouldn't be giving the login issue
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#1017 [03:25] <tallest_red> So weird.
#1018 [03:25] <xales> its a problem with your server contacting minecraft.net
#1019 [03:25] <xales> most likely
#1020 [03:26] <tallest_red> Well, to add to the strangeness I put the server.properties into offline mode
#1021 [03:26] <tallest_red> And it continues to do it
#1022 [03:26] <xales> what does the server console say again?
#1023 [03:27] <tallest_red> It gives a normal line for a player logging in, then next line it +1's the player count
#1024 [03:27] <xales> does it give an error or reason for disconnecting you?
#1025 [03:27] <tallest_red> Then hangs (so by console you think a persons in the server now but from the player you're "logging in...")
#1026 [03:27] <tallest_red> Then times out and prints "timed out" in console and client
#1027 [03:27] <tallest_red> 2010-12-28 03:26:17 [INFO] tallestred [/192.168.66.55:2327] logged in with entit
#1028 [03:27] <tallest_red> y id 133
#1029 [03:27] <tallest_red> Player count: 1
#1030 [03:27] <tallest_red> 2010-12-28 03:27:17 [INFO] tallestred lost connection: disconnect.timeout
#1031 [03:29] <tallest_red> You're welcome to attempt connecting yourself. As I said before that crazy8.dyndns.info is forwarded to the server in question
#1032 [03:29] <xales> hmm
#1033 [03:30] <xales> !paid tallestred
#1034 [03:30] <Kealper> lag? lol
#1035 [03:30] <tallest_red> ...indeed. lol
#1036 [03:30] <xales> Kealper: ideas?
#1037 [03:30] <Kealper> for what? i just now looked back at irc :S
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#1039 [03:31] <tallest_red> Summary: Trying to run most current minecraft server vanilla (no mod - fresh map) and it gives client timeouts on connect for no apparent reason.
#1040 [03:31] <xales> 03:27:57 < tallest_red> 2010-12-28 03:27:17 [INFO] tallestred lost connection: disconnect.timeout
#1041 [03:32] <tallest_red> We thought it might be lack of connection to the authentication server for minecraft - however running the server in onlinemode=false continues the error
#1042 [03:32] <tallest_red> and the server is able to load some test url for auth that I didn't know about till now in IE
#1043 [03:32] <Xaviergmail> hey ios there an if redstone gate?
#1044 [03:32] <fogWork> Oh... great, I just *love* germans sometimes, I specifically asked for API documentation in *english*, receive german instead
#1045 [03:32] <xales> logic gates are lower level than "if"
#1046 [03:32] <xales> also, an "if" gate would be a wire
#1047 [03:32] <xales> lolzor
#1048 [03:33] <xales> fogWork: lawl
#1049 [03:33] <fogWork> :|
#1050 [03:33] <Kealper> ok, read...
#1051 [03:33] <xales> Kealper: lies. you do not know how to read
#1052 [03:33] <xales> you look at the pictures
#1053 [03:33] <xales> tell the truth O_o
#1054 [03:34] <Kealper> microsoft SAM does though :P
#1055 [03:34] <xales> hahahahaha
#1056 [03:34] <xales> microsoft sam
#1057 [03:34] <xales> lol
#1058 [03:34] <Kealper> well...imo....
#1059 [03:34] <Kealper> the only thing i could think of is that the clients are on bad internet, or you are
#1060 [03:34] <xales> not as bad as "microsoft bob"
#1061 [03:35] <Kealper> and since you are still here....imma assume it's the clients :S
#1062 [03:35] <tallest_red> Well
#1063 [03:35] <tallest_red> I'm getting the error
#1064 [03:35] <xales> Kealper: server is on a setup like yours, he is connecting to his server thats on his LAN
#1065 [03:35] <tallest_red> and I'm connecting from the same lan
#1066 [03:35] <Kealper> and you get timeouts?
#1067 [03:35] <tallest_red> So even in this test i'm just going by local addresses
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#1069 [03:35] <tallest_red> yea
#1070 [03:35] <tallest_red> timeouts over 1 switch
#1071 [03:35] <tallest_red> lol
#1072 [03:35] <Kealper> wireless?
#1073 [03:35] <tallest_red> no
#1074 [03:35] <Kealper> O.o
#1075 [03:35] <tallest_red> ethernet both machines
#1076 [03:36] <Xaviergmail> xales, if a lever is on and i turn the other one on, the output goes off, any ways to do that?
#1077 [03:36] <Kealper> could be the NICs in one of the machines?
#1078 [03:36] <tallest_red> WELL - no, there are TWO switches
#1079 [03:36] <xales> Xaviergmail: that is called a NOT gate
#1080 [03:36] <tallest_red> Because of how many connections are seutp in the house
#1081 [03:36] <xales> http://minecraftwiki.net
#1082 [03:36] <Xaviergmail> i know
#1083 [03:36] <tallest_red> So it hops between a 10/100/1000 and a 10/100
#1084 [03:36] <tallest_red> But still
#1085 [03:36] <Xaviergmail> im on the logic gates page
#1086 [03:37] <xales> Xaviergmail: how old are you
#1087 [03:37] <xales> have you taken a logic class
#1088 [03:37] <xales> if you haven't, you probably won't understand logic gates
#1089 [03:37] <Xaviergmail> .. its 3:37 am i cant think
#1090 [03:37] <xales> many people without an electrical engineering degree can't figure em out
#1091 [03:37] <xales> Xaviergmail: answer the question... :P
#1092 [03:38] <xales> basic logic isn't not thinking ._.
#1093 [03:38] <Xaviergmail> the names confuses me
#1094 [03:38] <Xaviergmail> lol
#1095 [03:38] <xales> name of what?
#1096 [03:38] <xales> also..I want you to answer the question
#1097 [03:38] <Xaviergmail> logic cates
#1098 [03:39] <xales> I seriously doubt it being 3:30 makes you unable to remember your age or if you have taken a logic class
#1099 [03:39] <Xaviergmail> 14
#1100 [03:39] <xales> well, clearly you have not taken a logic class if the names confuse you
#1101 [03:39] <tallest_red> lol. 3am... wut am I again? 12?
#1102 [03:39] <Xaviergmail> im french
#1103 [03:39] <xales> so?
#1104 [03:39] <Xaviergmail> <3
#1105 [03:39] <xales> tallest_red: inorite?
#1106 [03:39] <Xaviergmail> names are different
#1107 [03:39] <Xaviergmail> <3
#1108 [03:39] <xales> no
#1109 [03:39] <xales> they arent
#1110 [03:40] <xales> also, if its 3am
#1111 [03:40] <Xaviergmail> yes they are
#1112 [03:40] <xales> you are on the east coast of the US
#1113 [03:40] <xales> don't lie to me
#1114 [03:40] <Xaviergmail> no
#1115 [03:40] <Xaviergmail> eastern canada
#1116 [03:40] <Xaviergmail> quebec
#1117 [03:40] <Xaviergmail> drummondvi;;e
#1118 [03:40] <Xaviergmail> owned
#1119 [03:40] <xales> derp
#1120 [03:40] <xales> fine
#1121 [03:40] <xales> either way
#1122 [03:41] <xales> the names aren't different
#1123 [03:41] <Xaviergmail> yes they are
#1124 [03:41] <xales> and if you are 14 I seriously doubt you have taken a logic class
#1125 [03:41] <tallest_red> So - I take it the silence means no one has any ideas?
#1126 [03:41] <Kealper> tallest_red: sorry, if it's no NIC issues, then i'm spent for ideas :S
#1127 [03:42] <Xaviergmail> xales ur a bitch
#1128 [03:42] <Xaviergmail> nwo stop wasting my time
#1129 [03:42] <tallest_red> I doubt a nics are messed up in some way. Other network services/data go across both machines nics fine.
#1130 [03:42] <xales> I'm wasting your time?
#1131 [03:42] <xales> excuse me
#1132 [03:42] <Kealper> now now, calm down, the both of you
#1133 [03:42] <xales> your the one in here whining about things you can find EASILY on the internet
#1134 [03:42] <xales> ._.
#1135 [03:42] <xales> Kealper: helps me stay awake
#1136 [03:43] <Kealper> i'll let a heated discussion go, but it's going a tad far now
#1137 [03:43] <xales> i turned my music off for some reason and I somewhat rely on that to stay awake
#1138 [03:43] <xales> :P
#1139 [03:43] <xales> <--- I have a +
#1140 [03:43] <xales> i'm specialer
#1141 [03:43] <Kealper> lol
#1142 [03:43] <xales> because + is cooler than @
#1143 [03:43] <Kealper> totally lol
#1144 [03:43] <Xaviergmail> actually ur a yellow dot
#1145 [03:43] <Xaviergmail> and kealper is green
#1146 [03:43] <xales> actually I don't care about weird irc clients
#1147 [03:43] <Xaviergmail> green > yellow
#1148 [03:43] <xales> ._.
#1149 [03:44] <xales> in other words
#1150 [03:44] <xales> I don't care about xchat
#1151 [03:44] <xales> and the non-standard shit they do
#1152 [03:44] <Xaviergmail> lul
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#1154 [03:45] * Kealper laughs at everyone else's puny system uptime MUAHAHAA!
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#1155 [03:45] <xales> um
#1156 [03:45] <xales> my record is 1106 days
#1157 [03:45] <xales> I win
#1158 [03:45] <Kealper> u.u
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#1160 [03:45] <Xaviergmail> no
#1161 [03:45] <xales> I only restarted because I got a free ram upgrade
#1162 [03:45] <Xaviergmail> mines infinite +1
#1163 [03:46] <xales> I don't care?
#1164 [03:46] <Xaviergmail> in 4 years, never got a power outage?
#1165 [03:46] <xales> its a server
#1166 [03:46] <xales> it has a UPS
#1167 [03:46] <xales> lol
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#1169 [03:47] <Kealper> indeed, the one i'm talking on right now has been up for 365 days now, without turning off
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#1171 [03:47] <xales> thats no horribly impressive, sadly
#1172 [03:47] <xales> but my current isnt worth pasting
#1173 [03:47] <xales> ill do it anyway
#1174 [03:47] <xales> 03:47:28 up 133 days, 8:34, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
#1175 [03:47] * Kealper does a /sysinfo
#1175 [03:47] <Xaviergmail> 133 days
#1176 [03:47] <Kealper> (prepare!)
#1177 [03:47] <Kealper> Hostname: jodi.businessadvances.com - OS: Linux 2.6.18-164.el5PAE/i686 - CPU: 2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ (2100.051 MHz) - Processes: 139 - Uptime: 365d 2h 46m - Load Average: 0.00 - Memory Usage: 316.18MB/1501.97MB (21.05%) - Disk Usage: 13.91GB/67.24GB (20.69%)
#1178 [03:48] <tallest_red> Current for me: 164days. :/
#1179 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1180 [03:48] <tallest_red> And it's windows
#1181 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> Operating System Platform:«Windows XP» UpTime:«4 Weeks 3 Days 7 Hours 10 Minutes 50 Seconds» Record UpTime:«4 Weeks 3 Days 7 Hours 10 Minutes 35 Seconds» 
#1182 [03:48] <tallest_red> how about that
#1183 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#1184 [03:49] <xales> lol
#1185 [03:49] <Kealper> holy formatting
#1186 [03:49] <Kealper> lol
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#1188 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> Record's all fubar, but oh well
#1189 [03:49] <Kealper> record uptime i've got on my windows server at my house is like 104 days
#1190 [03:49] <tallest_red> ...lol
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#1192 [03:50] <tallest_red> I would have like 90 more actually
#1193 [03:50] <Kealper> and then the power flickered, and i was too lazy to put my server on a little 300w ups -.-
#1194 [03:50] <tallest_red> It's been running since April, with one reboot in july
#1195 [03:50] <Kealper> so i got owned
#1196 [03:50] <tallest_red> Because I fucked up and hit restart instead of logoff
#1197 [03:50] <tallest_red> :S
#1198 [03:50] <Kealper> lol
#1199 [03:50] <xales> so Kealper
#1200 [03:50] <tallest_red> It's a laptop actually - does well in power outtages.
#1201 [03:51] <xales> when I pasted that
#1202 [03:51] <xales> I freaked out because it said 3 users online
#1203 [03:51] <xales> and I only have 2 sessions open
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#1205 [03:51] <Kealper> root for the 3rd? lol
#1206 [03:51] <xales> aparrantly the login process counts as a user as far as uptime is concerned
#1207 [03:51] <Kealper> oh lol
#1208 [03:51] <PolarLion> Has anyone been having problems running a client and server on the same computer since beta? McAdmin, Hey0, and the vanilla server software max the processor and stay there, and times out after couple minutes
#1209 [03:51] <xales> which is running on a virtual serial port
#1210 [03:51] <xales> ._.
#1211 [03:52] <xales> PolarLion: what are the system specs? it may not be capable of doing that
#1212 [03:52] <PolarLion> Quad core 3GHz, 8GB ram, Radeon generation 5 graphics card
#1213 [03:52] <Kealper> core i7?
#1214 [03:52] <PolarLion> fairly new system, i cant see horsepower being the problem
#1215 [03:52] <PolarLion> no, phenom
#1216 [03:52] <Kealper> O.o
#1217 [03:52] <xales> if its maxing the processor then the mods are doing something stupid/wrong
#1218 [03:52] <PolarLion> I've set core affinity for both
#1219 [03:53] <PolarLion> both the game and the server max processor, chew about 800MB each, and just sit there lol
#1220 [03:53] <PolarLion> been cruising forums/ google for 2 days, no dice
#1221 [03:53] <PolarLion> oh, no mods installed btw
#1222 [03:54] <Kealper> sadly, quite a lot of people come through this channel with those same issues, absolutely unable to play and host from the same computer
#1223 [03:54] <PolarLion> hmm
#1224 [03:54] <Kealper> and they all have pretty new setups
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#1226 [03:54] <PolarLion> mostly since beta or just in general?
#1227 [03:54] <Kealper> in general
#1228 [03:54] <PolarLion> I use McAdmin primarily (until this happened), because the wrapper is supposed to alleviate some issues
#1229 [03:55] <xales> tried running it completely vanilla?
#1230 [03:55] <PolarLion> so is virtualization (VmWare) recommended? The forums are too slow to get useful information from right now
#1231 [03:55] <PolarLion> yep, trying that now
#1232 [03:55] <xales> that will make it worse
#1233 [03:55] <xales> ._.
#1234 [03:55] <PolarLion> no mods, no McAdmin, only a texture pack
#1235 [03:55] <Kealper> bad part about it, is much like many of the black window issues, it's usually not correctable :S
#1236 [03:55] <xales> also, vmware isn't worth the money. virtualbox will do the same thing for free, but meh
#1237 [03:55] <PolarLion> my GF can log on from the laptop beside me, however
#1238 [03:56] <PolarLion> (yeah, virtualbox... I wouldnt pay for vmware lol)
#1239 [03:56] <xales> its probably a "java doesn't like your CPU" thing
#1240 [03:56] <Kealper> xales: *COUGH*dependshowyougetit*COUGHCOUGH*
#1241 [03:56] <PolarLion> it was working great until beta came out
#1242 [03:56] <xales> Kealper: even so, VB is better
#1243 [03:56] <tallest_red> I attempted to do mc server inside of virtual box before - don't. It just underpowers things far too mch
#1244 [03:56] <tallest_red> much
#1245 [03:56] <PolarLion> had up to 3 people on there, the usual lag and all, but it worked 100% of the time
#1246 [03:56] <xales> I have a copy from that free give-away at that expo too
#1247 [03:56] <xales> :P
#1248 [03:56] <PolarLion> leads me to believe it has to be beta related
#1249 [03:56] <xales> nothing changed in beta
#1250 [03:57] <xales> except leaf decay
#1251 [03:57] <xales> really
#1252 [03:57] <PolarLion> packets changed, did they not?
#1253 [03:57] <PolarLion> McAdmin changelog says he had to fix packets for beta
#1254 [03:57] <Kealper> an leaf decay was fixed so it does not cuase issues anymore
#1255 [03:57] <tallest_red> Which is pretty huge. The leaf decay was enough to push somewhat slow machines that were barely playing MC over the edge to unplayable
#1256 [03:57] <PolarLion> something about 1 + 2 + 1 => 5 lol
#1257 [03:57] <Kealper> packet structure does not cause lag :S
#1258 [03:57] <PolarLion> no, but I'm not sure its a lag problem
#1259 [03:58] <PolarLion> sounds almost like a race condition, since both processes max the processor
#1260 [03:58] <xales> :\
#1261 [03:58] <xales> wrong use of race condition, but meh
#1262 [03:58] <xales> if they are maxing the processor
#1263 [03:58] <xales> then it can't handle the load
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#1265 [03:58] <Kealper> point was still conveyed lol
#1266 [03:59] <PolarLion> yeah... it's after midnight lo
#1267 [03:59] <xales> or they are doing something fucking stupid with their CPU slice
#1268 [03:59] <xales> 4am here ._.
#1269 [03:59] <PolarLion> I guess, i just wonder why it happened right after update
#1270 [03:59] <PolarLion> was working like a pro before lol
#1271 [03:59] <xales> have you tried a new world?
#1272 [03:59] <PolarLion> yep
#1273 [03:59] <xales> tried redownloading the server?
#1274 [03:59] <xales> could have been a slightly corrupt download
#1275 [03:59] <PolarLion> and the client, and deleting .minecraft
#1276 [04:00] <PolarLion> and tried McAdmin, Hey0, and vanilla
#1277 [04:00] <xales> hmm
#1278 [04:00] <xales> mcadmin has security holes I believe
#1279 [04:00] <PolarLion> they patched that, so they say
#1280 [04:00] <xales> anyway
#1281 [04:00] <xales> what other things do you have open, besides the server and the client when you try to run it
#1282 [04:00] <xales> because they shouldn't max out CPU
#1283 [04:00] <Kealper> i don't like it for the fact that the security hole is not with the software,but it's creator >.>
#1284 [04:01] <Kealper> and holy crap i type slow at 4am
#1285 [04:01] <xales> and the JVM shouldn't let them in the first place
#1286 [04:01] <PolarLion> I have firefox open, but it's not running anything java (java disabled on it in fact)
#1287 [04:01] <PolarLion> firewall is completely turned off
#1288 [04:01] <PolarLion> utorrent is idle
#1289 [04:01] <xales> antivirus?
#1290 [04:01] <PolarLion> no AV
#1291 [04:02] <xales> what is the name of the process that uses 100% cpu?
#1292 [04:02] <xales> 'javaw.exe'?
#1293 [04:02] <PolarLion> yes
#1294 [04:02] <PolarLion> one for server, one for client
#1295 [04:02] <xales> do you affinity set on it?
#1296 [04:02] <PolarLion> yep
#1297 [04:02] <xales> turn it off
#1298 [04:02] <PolarLion> each on a different core
#1299 [04:02] <xales> let it use whatever cores it wants
#1300 [04:02] <PolarLion> tried that too... since it defaults to it :p
#1301 [04:02] <PolarLion> will try it again right now
#1302 [04:02] <PolarLion> just in case
#1303 [04:02] <xales> ok
#1304 [04:03] <PolarLion> ok fired it up
#1305 [04:03] <xales> I'd want to do more serious debugging to see what the name of the routine is where its spending most of its time, but it wouldn't be something I'd want to explain over the internet ._.
#1306 [04:03] <PolarLion> it gets to Logging in... (to server)
#1307 [04:03] <xales> so I don't really have any other ideas
#1308 [04:04] <PolarLion> the window blinks once, still on Logging in...
#1309 [04:04] <PolarLion> then CPUs spike :p
#1310 [04:04] <PolarLion> and memory stays about the same
#1311 [04:04] <xales> hmm
#1312 [04:04] <xales> is the CPU overclocked or in any way modified from default settings?
#1313 [04:04] <PolarLion> yeah... I never get to see the world
#1314 [04:04] <PolarLion> nope
#1315 [04:04] <PolarLion> totally stock
#1316 [04:04] <PolarLion> whole computer is stock settings
#1317 [04:05] <xales> look in BIOS options to see if anything fucking moronic is going on
#1318 [04:05] <PolarLion> heh, suggestions?
#1319 [04:05] <xales> for example, my motherboard failed to boot at first because I didn't install a floppy drive
#1320 [04:05] <xales> ._.
#1321 [04:05] <PolarLion> set it up myself, looked sane to me. Any settings in mind?
#1322 [04:05] <xales> and its a modern board too
#1323 [04:05] <xales> PolarLion: look at CPU settings
#1324 [04:05] <PolarLion> K9a2 platinum
#1325 [04:05] <PolarLion> quite modern
#1326 [04:05] <xales> make sure things like hyperthreading are on and whatnot
#1327 [04:05] <PolarLion> ah... the motherboard cannot recognize the CPU type, but it can detect that it's quad core, and can use its features
#1328 [04:06] <Kealper> amd doesn't have HT
#1329 [04:06] <xales> does
#1330 [04:06] <PolarLion> they dont call it HT
#1331 [04:06] <PolarLion> it's an AM2+ socket and the processor is AM3
#1332 [04:06] <xales> that may be why then
#1333 [04:06] <Kealper> well, not HT in the sense of inte
#1334 [04:06] <xales> ._.
#1335 [04:06] <Kealper> intel*
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#1337 [04:06] <PolarLion> but it didn't have a problem before beta, and no other programs anywhere have the problem
#1338 [04:07] <PolarLion> I mean it might be, but there's still that beta hang xD
#1339 [04:07] <xales> no other programs try to use 100% cpu
#1340 [04:07] <PolarLion> nope
#1341 [04:07] <xales> the thing that changed may be the initialization of leaf decay
#1342 [04:07] <xales> or something
#1343 [04:07] <PolarLion> cept rendering software... but that's expected :p
#1344 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> But that was fixed... and refixed.
#1345 [04:08] <xales> GreyVulpine: no, I mean it still would use some more CPU when it started the processing, than what alpha would use
#1346 [04:08] <xales> its just not massively brokenly excessive now
#1347 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> I haven't seen a huge increase in my server's usage with leaf decay
#1348 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> But meh.
#1349 [04:08] <PolarLion> I guess all that's left to do is dump all MC software tomorrow and try downloading all fresh
#1350 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> Probably a good idea
#1351 [04:09] <PolarLion> Alright, well its bed time for me. If I get it fixed i'll letcha know lol
#1352 [04:09] <PolarLion> thanks for your help
#1353 [04:09] <xales> your welcome, sorry we couldn't be of more help
#1354 [04:09] <PolarLion> np, at least now i know it's not a common problem lol
#1355 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> What was the problem? High CPU usage with MC?
#1356 [04:10] <xales> maxing out CPU
#1357 [04:11] <Kealper> another case of not being able to run both the server and game at once on a beast of a computer
#1358 [04:11] <xales> when playing locally on the server
#1359 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> Ah, yeah.
#1360 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> That does tend to cause problems at times
#1361 [04:12] <xales> so grey
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#1363 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> Yo
#1364 [04:12] <xales> what do you think of a disclaimer
#1365 [04:12] <xales> about attempting to run a server without technical experience
#1366 [04:12] <Kealper> oh poop
#1367 [04:12] <Kealper> i forgot to compile that
#1368 [04:12] * GreyVulpine sighs
#1368 [04:12] <xales> oh yes kealper
#1369 [04:12] <xales> do it
#1370 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> You wouldn't believe the number of people that came on here before you all did, with almost no experience about networking at all
#1371 [04:13] * GreyVulpine shudders.
#1371 [04:13] <xales> or computers at all
#1372 [04:13] <xales> ._.
#1373 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> Have you ever had to port forward from a modem/router to a router, to a mac running parallels? Over teamspeak?
#1374 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> I have.
#1375 [04:13] <xales> I would have disconnected from teamspeak
#1376 [04:13] <xales> >.>
#1377 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> or wait... no, I meant teamviewer
#1378 [04:14] <Kealper> i idled hardcore in this channel for a while before i realized no one helped and started giving help myself...i noticed the superfailnoobs aswell lol
#1379 [04:14] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
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#1384 [04:14] <Kealper> fail....
#1385 [04:14] <xales> yes
#1386 [04:14] <xales> fail
#1387 [04:15] <Kealper> cycled before the module loaded lol
#1388 [04:15] <xales> put it in blue or something
#1389 [04:15] <xales> oh
#1390 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, back a few months ago, it really was just me, unvoiced, helping others.
#1391 [04:15] <xales> hahaaha
#1392 [04:15] <xales> i got it
#1393 [04:15] <xales> Kealper
#1394 [04:15] <xales> put the part about servers in the most obnovious color you can
#1395 [04:15] <Kealper> indeed, i think i remember you being one of the few people even trying to help before i jumpped in and made this my new home lol
#1396 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> And I thank you for taking the time to help here.
#1397 [04:16] <Kealper> :3
#1398 [04:16] <Kealper> xales: suggested color?
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#1400 [04:16] <xales> obnoxious
#1401 [04:16] <xales> I dont know
#1402 [04:16] <xales> set mode -c for a sec and ill go thru em
#1403 [04:17] <Kealper> it's gotta work on both black and white backgrounds
#1404 [04:17] <xales> 1 12 23 34 45 56 67 78 89 910 1011 1112 1213 1314 1415 15
#1405 [04:17] <xales> thats just forground colors
#1406 [04:17] <fogWork> Black background, red fore :P
#1407 [04:18] <xales> the latter ones blink in some clients
#1408 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> Man, minecraft gift codes on facebook
#1409 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> 2 of them, redeemed within seconds
#1410 [04:18] <xales> haha
#1411 [04:18] <Kealper> lol
#1412 [04:19] <xales> don't forget to put +c back >.>
#1413 [04:19] * GreyVulpine mrahs
#1413 [04:19] * Kealper hates fixing people's sourcecode
#1413 [04:19] <xales> ok kealper
#1414 [04:19] * fogWork agrees with Kealper
#1414 [04:19] <xales> do 1 for the background
#1415 [04:19] <Kealper> why can't they just RTFM and do it right the first time
#1416 [04:19] <xales> and 13 for the foreground
#1417 [04:19] <xales> thats flashing pink in MIRC
#1418 [04:20] <Kealper> lol
#1419 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1420 [04:20] <fogWork> Kealper: that's too hard ;P
#1421 [04:20] <Kealper> ok, i'll do that in a sec then
#1422 [04:20] <xales> do it and ill join with mibbit and see what it looks like
#1423 [04:20] <xales> 13,1 test
#1424 [04:20] * fogWork shrieks
#1424 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> 0,8OMG Your eyes SHALL BURN WITH THE FIERY LIGHT OF A BILLION SUNS
#1425 [04:20] <Kealper> OHGOD
#1426 [04:20] <genshou> Kay, so you know the compact resetting booster that uses a cart hanging by ladder above a closed door to jump-start a stationary passenger car?
#1427 [04:20] <fogWork> :|
#1428 [04:20] <xales> Grey, what code is that? it actually flashes on irssi
#1429 [04:20] <xales> lol
#1430 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> 0,8
#1431 [04:21] <genshou> I had to add three blocks of track to the one in my mine because I've dug so far xD
#1432 [04:21] <xales> hmm
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#1434 [04:21] <genshou> (since the last time I built one further down)
#1435 [04:21] <xales> so I thought i understood mirc colors
#1436 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> It's actually supposed to be white on yellow
#1437 [04:21] <xales> guess not
#1438 [04:21] <fogWork> Speaking of Minecraft, all of a sudden... yesterdays exploration was a complete fail
#1439 [04:21] <genshou> looks grey on yellow to me.
#1440 [04:21] <xales> doesn't the foreground color control flashing? ._.
#1441 [04:21] <xales> its white on yellow for me
#1442 [04:21] <fogWork> Over the hill and into SIX friggin' creepers
#1443 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> flashing?
#1444 [04:21] <genshou> lol!
#1445 [04:21] <genshou> D:
#1446 [04:21] <genshou> Did they all asplode together?
#1447 [04:21] <xales> err
#1448 [04:22] <xales> it flashes
#1449 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> I've never seen a flashing control code
#1450 [04:22] <xales> on my screen
#1451 [04:22] <fogWork> Four of them did, they were the closest
#1452 [04:22] <xales> some of the colors
#1453 [04:22] <genshou> I bet there was a big crater :<
#1454 [04:22] <fogWork> Run away with barely enough hearts left, BOOM!
#1455 [04:22] <xales> are supposed to flash
#1456 [04:22] <Kealper> no flashing from putty here
#1457 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> wierd
#1458 [04:22] <genshou> I don't like creepers
#1459 [04:22] <xales> O_o
#1460 [04:23] <genshou> If a spider kills me, whatever.
#1461 [04:23] <genshou> I go collect up my items and take it like a man
#1462 [04:23] <genshou> but creepers blow big craters into my beautiful virgin wilderness
#1463 [04:23] <fogWork> Creepers are... nasty sneaky shits
#1464 [04:23] * genshou just guns them down
#1464 [04:23] <genshou> DIE DIE DIE
#1465 [04:24] <genshou> I waste a lot of arrows since it's so easy to get/make more ;x
#1466 [04:24] <fogWork> I hear zombies outside my door; turn to day, venture two steps outside & hear "SSSSSSSSSSSSS"
#1467 [04:24] <GreyVulpine> Always fun.
#1468 [04:24] <fogWork> Oh yes
#1469 [04:24] <genshou> fogWork, next time build a stone slab staircase or bridge or something going out of your base :P
#1470 [04:24] <fogWork> This was my "mine" entrance :P
#1471 [04:25] <genshou> Oh, I exit my mine via a sealed minecart tunnel that goes straight into my base, nowadays :)
#1472 [04:25] <fogWork> Cheap ;)
#1473 [04:25] <genshou> got tired of creepers after the last time
#1474 [04:25] <xales> so
#1475 [04:25] <xales> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7860637/Photo%20Dec%2028%2C%203%2025%2009%20AM.jpg
#1476 [04:25] <genshou> I had only five squares left to seal off
#1477 [04:25] <genshou> Creeper snuck up on me as I was laying glass
#1478 [04:25] <fogWork> Haha
#1479 [04:25] <xales> ._.
#1480 [04:25] <genshou> Blew up a big chunk of my tunnel and flooded the ocean into my mine, destroying about 30 torches ._.
#1481 [04:26] <fogWork> Congratulations ;D
#1482 [04:26] <genshou> also I lost one block of minecart track xD
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#1484 [04:26] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1485 [04:26] <genshou> so once I got it sealed again I was like HAH! Let's see you do that again buster D:<
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#1488 [04:26] <Kealper> yeah...that'll do...lol
#1489 [04:26] <fogWork> I haven't dared try the nethergates for a while, will they still take creatures from the nether to the world above? :P
#1490 [04:26] <genshou> I dunno if that's been implemented :C
#1491 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> I believe since beta, zombiepigs spawn naturally in the overworld
#1492 [04:27] <genshou> could always set up a portal defense system
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#1494 [04:27] <fogWork> Ghasts ;_;
#1495 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> have not seen ghasts..
#1496 [04:27] <Kealper> ok xales, fire up a mibbit, see if it's worthy
#1497 [04:28] <xales> ok
#1498 [04:28] <fogWork> GreyVulpine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efzd1S8OeUw
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#1500 [04:29] <genshou> fffffffff, what's wrong with my wireless Dx
#1501 [04:29] <nothermcnoob> its worthy
#1502 [04:29] <nothermcnoob> hehe
#1503 [04:29] <Kealper> lol
#1504 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#1505 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> That's great
#1506 [04:30] <fogWork> Or this one; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyRY_yeOvI4
#1507 [04:31] <xales> http://darksigns.net/worthy.png
#1508 [04:31] <Kealper> lol
#1509 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> That poor house
#1510 [04:33] <fogWork> Spewing out from the Nether, goddamn creatures ;P
#1511 [04:39] <Xaviergmail> why doesen't the 2x2 minecart bost glitch doesent work anymore
#1512 [04:39] <Kealper> eh?
#1513 [04:39] <Xaviergmail> sec
#1514 [04:39] <Xaviergmail> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzGcirn15to&feature=related
#1515 [04:40] <Xaviergmail> at 3:00
#1516 [04:40] <Kealper> boosters still work :S
#1517 [04:41] <xales> so kealper
#1518 [04:41] <xales> have you seen anyone with the "i bought minecraft 20 minutes ago y r i no premyyyum"
#1519 [04:41] <xales> recently?
#1520 [04:41] <Kealper> more than i'd like to admit
#1521 [04:42] <xales> ._.
#1522 [04:42] <Xaviergmail> Kealper, the thing doesent work for me
#1523 [04:42] <xales> notch fixed the paypal bug though, right?
#1524 [04:42] <xales> Xaviergmail: are you doing it properly?
#1525 [04:42] <Kealper> as far as i know, minecraft's end is fixed
#1526 [04:42] <GreyVulpine> More like, paypal stopped processing over the holiday, and Notch had to fix it
#1527 [04:42] <GreyVulpine> Was on his twitter the day after christmas
#1528 [04:43] <Kealper> the only issue now is that paypal is caching the payments because one purchase every 20 sec is too fast -.-
#1529 [04:43] <Xaviergmail> ooh, now it works
#1530 [04:43] <Xaviergmail> weird
#1531 [04:43] <genshou> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efzd1S8OeUw
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#1533 [04:44] <Kealper> getting the booster bug to work is tricky, if it's not done a few exact ways, it won't work
#1534 [04:45] <True|MC> Keaper
#1535 [04:45] <True|MC> I found a friendly creeper on your server
#1536 [04:45] <True|MC> no
#1537 [04:45] <True|MC> joke
#1538 [04:45] <Kealper> orly?
#1539 [04:45] <True|MC> Yeah, it just stands there, you can move it around, but it's alive.
#1540 [04:46] <Kealper> encase it in glass :P
#1541 [04:46] <True|MC> Doesn't attack or blow up! all it wants is a hug
#1542 [04:46] <Kealper> lol
#1543 [04:46] <True|MC> I need glass to do that
#1544 [04:46] <xales> Kealper
#1545 [04:46] <xales> give the creeper a hug
#1546 [04:46] <Kealper> use /give glass 10 then lol
#1547 [04:46] <xales> its rude to not give hugs to lonely creepers
#1548 [04:46] <Kealper> that'll give you just enough glass to encase it
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#1550 [04:49] <AJHunter> o noes im back!
#1551 [04:49] <Kealper> noes!
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#1553 [04:51] <xales> kealper
#1554 [04:52] <xales> did you buy the 2nd humble bundle?
#1555 [04:52] <Kealper> no, i didn't :S
#1556 [04:52] <xales> I didn't either
#1557 [04:52] <xales> i want someones download links
#1558 [04:52] <xales> ._.
#1559 [04:53] <Kealper> lol
#1560 [04:54] <genshou> Xaviergmail, you shouldn't rely on a speed booster that uses continuous motion anyway, as they will eventually glitch on you.
#1561 [04:54] <Xaviergmail> how
#1562 [04:54] <Kealper> indeed, there are ways of making ones that only boost in one direction, and stop after a little while
#1563 [04:55] <genshou> There are also ways of making two-way auto-resetting boosters if you need them.
#1564 [04:55] <Kealper> and they are easy as heck to start up too
#1565 [04:55] <Xaviergmail> O_o?
#1566 [04:55] <genshou> I prefer to just set up a door/ladder booster at the start of each end so I can get in my cart motionless and press a button for max speed :)
#1567 [04:56] <genshou> Xaviergmail, the most important aspect of getting a booster to work is that you have to "hit" the other track in the right way
#1568 [04:56] <aetherian> I want pizza ;_;
#1569 [04:56] <genshou> The moment you "start" touching the booster cart should be right as your main cart is headed straight at it and makes a 90-degree turn, or right as you pass by it while going down an inclined track.
#1570 [04:57] <xales> I want to go to sleep; its 5am. time for me to go
#1571 [04:57] <Kealper> cya xales
#1572 [04:57] <xales> cya kealper
#1573 [04:57] <genshou> Xaviergmail, watch this and part 2 and 3 to see if they help you get a booster set up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPls6LXlkGI
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#1579 [05:06] <fogWork> Ohshi-
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#1581 [05:07] <Kealper> O.o
#1582 [05:07] <genshou> o.O
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#1584 [05:08] <Kealper> o.o
#1585 [05:08] <genshou> I'm reheating the tempura from Christmas :3
#1586 [05:08] <fogWork> I blame this on you, Kealper ;P
#1587 [05:08] * Kealper is lost
#1587 [05:09] <genshou> Hey, so the game only keeps track of stuff like water flow, tree growth, fires, and spawned mobs if the chunks they're in stay within the 9x9 chunk vicinity of the player, right?
#1588 [05:09] <genshou> Does this apply to minecarts that are sent off on, oh, let's say a 1km track behind the player? xD
#1589 [05:10] <Kealper> anything not on loaded chunks is not messed with
#1590 [05:11] <genshou> I really wanna download somebody's world that has a big automated subway system so I can see how that works with faraway chunks x3
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#1593 [05:18] <mang0> minecraft wont work ;__;
#1594 [05:19] <True|MC> a normal creeper blew up the friendly creeper ;.;
#1595 [05:19] <mang0> pixel format is not exereated
#1596 [05:19] <mang0> my drivers are up to date
#1597 [05:19] <mang0> whats wrong ;__;
#1598 [05:21] <Kealper> mang0: if it still says that after your drivers are up to date, there is a good chance that your computer is just not good enough to play minecraft
#1599 [05:22] <mang0> nooooooo
#1600 [05:22] * mang0 dies
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#1601 [05:28] * GreyVulpine pokes.
#1601 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> Next time, make sure they got it updated from the right site. Many of them don't know where to check
#1602 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> They'll go to *shudder* windows update, or some garbage ATI website with their auto-updater...
#1603 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> and think they have it updated right
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#1605 [05:33] <genshou> Your FACE is a garbage site :C
#1606 [05:33] <genshou> ...pssst, hey GreyVulpine, do you play smp on any awesome servers :o
#1607 [05:33] <Kealper> grey has his own server lol
#1608 [05:33] <genshou> it's fun to build and build in single player, but I'd love to have a nice neighbourhood to plug my minecart tracks into ;x
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#1610 [05:34] <AJHunter> ok, so I tried sudo apt get unzip and it said that apt wasn't a command.
#1611 [05:35] <Kealper> try aptitude
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#1613 [05:35] <AJHunter> sudo aptitude get?
#1614 [05:36] <AJHunter> or just sudo aptitude?
#1615 [05:36] <Kealper> sudo aptitude install somepackage
#1616 [05:36] <AJHunter> oh! tha makes sense!
#1617 [05:37] <AJHunter> ok, it's working...
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#1619 [05:37] <AJHunter> there... now it was wget... what was the url?
#1620 [05:37] <Kealper> for?
#1621 [05:37] <AJHunter> clasic server
#1622 [05:37] <Kealper> you have unzip?
#1623 [05:37] <AJHunter> yes.
#1624 [05:38] <Kealper> type unzip without any params to see if it runs it, to make sure it's installed correctly
#1625 [05:38] <AJHunter> it's good
#1626 [05:39] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip
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#1629 [05:40] <AJHunter> working...
#1630 [05:40] <Kealper> it's unzipping it?
#1631 [05:41] <AJHunter> unzipped.
#1632 [05:41] <AJHunter> Inow have the jar, the redme, and the bat
#1633 [05:42] <Kealper> ok, 1 sec while i get you the stuff to run it properly
#1634 [05:42] <AJHunter> ok :)
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#1636 [05:42] <Kealper> launch it with: java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft-server.jar
#1637 [05:43] <Kealper> do it through screen though
#1638 [05:43] <Kealper> or it'll stop working when you disconnect from ssh
#1639 [05:43] <AJHunter> screen?
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#1641 [05:43] <Kealper> wait, are you even sshing to it?
#1642 [05:44] <aetherian> Ssh, be vewy vewy qwiet
#1643 [05:44] <aetherian> I'm hunting wabbits
#1644 [05:44] <mang0> kealper, do you have andy *up dog*???
#1645 [05:44] <Kealper> sudo aptitude install screen
#1646 [05:44] <mang0> *any
#1647 [05:44] <Kealper> lolwut
#1648 [05:44] <AJHunter> erm... the server is set up as openssh...
#1649 [05:44] <mang0> kealper i said do you have any *updog*?
#1650 [05:45] <Kealper> screen is a program that lets you work with multiple windows at once on a cli machine
#1651 [05:45] <Kealper> mang0: i must be missing a joke or something here :/
#1652 [05:45] <mang0> lol your ment to ask "whats *updog*?
#1653 [05:45] <mang0> like, waddup dawg
#1654 [05:45] <mang0> lol
#1655 [05:46] <Kealper> ye ayea i seen it after you did that -.-
#1656 [05:46] <mang0> heh
#1657 [05:46] <Kealper> it's 6am, i've got a reason to be incompetent right now -.-
#1658 [05:46] <mang0> GOTOBED
#1659 [05:46] <mang0> NOW
#1660 [05:46] <aetherian> hehe
#1661 [05:46] * mang0 taps foot
#1661 [05:46] <aetherian> lesee
#1662 [05:46] <mang0> GO
#1663 [05:46] <mang0> TO
#1664 [05:46] <aetherian> by this time
#1665 [05:46] <mang0> BED
#1666 [05:47] <aetherian> he's probably said he's going to bed, around 3 times?
#1667 [05:47] <AJHunter> hm... I'll have to do that when I'm not getting kicked off the computer... again... I'll be back... I'll get the chtlogs ad work from there...
#1668 [05:47] <Kealper> aetherian: indeed
#1669 [05:47] <Kealper> i have a habbit of doing that
#1670 [05:48] <aetherian> like, just the other night
#1671 [05:48] <aetherian> he's all like
#1672 [05:48] <aetherian> okay, I'm really going to bed now
#1673 [05:48] <Kealper> AJHunter: :/
#1674 [05:48] <aetherian> and he's on two hours later
#1675 [05:48] <Kealper> get on earlier then....
#1676 [05:48] <Kealper> you're so close to being done lol
#1677 [05:48] * fogWork groans
#1677 [05:49] <Kealper> yeah but this time you'll know if i actually go to bed or not lol
#1678 [05:49] <aetherian> I dunno, but whenever I'm exploding stuff
#1679 [05:49] <aetherian> I have the strong urge to break out into song
#1680 [05:49] <aetherian> "TnT, I'm dino-mite..."
#1681 [05:49] <Kealper> using irssi in a shell now, if my nick changes to Kealper[OFF] then i've logged out of ssh :P
#1682 [05:50] <aetherian> SSH
#1683 [05:50] <aetherian> BE QUIET
#1684 [05:51] <Kealper> ._.
#1685 [05:51] <aetherian> :D
#1686 [05:51] <fogWork> Kealper: I need you for some tests
#1687 [05:52] <Kealper> uhh....ok, as long as it will not take too long
#1688 [05:52] <fogWork> It will take 10 seconds of your life ;P
#1689 [05:52] <fogWork> See if that works
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#1691 [05:53] <aetherian> Oo
#1692 [05:53] <aetherian> fogwork, you thief
#1693 [05:53] <aetherian> give it back to him
#1694 [05:53] <aetherian> ten seconds is a lot of seconds :o
#1695 [05:53] <fogWork> Not really ;)
#1696 [05:54] <aetherian> is too
#1697 [05:56] <fogWork> Nuh uh!
#1698 [05:57] <aetherian> uh huh!
#1699 [06:02] * aetherian steals two thousand "only ten seconds
#1699 [06:02] <aetherian> "
#1700 [06:02] <aetherian> from fogwork
#1701 [06:03] <aetherian> failboard
#1702 [06:03] <aetherian> failtype
#1703 [06:03] <aetherian> eurgh
#1704 [06:03] <fogWork> :|
#1705 [06:03] <aetherian> I should go to bed
#1706 [06:04] <aetherian> oh my god this thing is idiotic
#1707 [06:04] <aetherian> darn paranoid parents
#1708 [06:04] <aetherian> well, soon enough, I'll be an adult
#1709 [06:04] <aetherian> well, soon enough, I'll be an adult
#1710 [06:04] <aetherian> what the?
#1711 [06:04] <aetherian> I typed something and then that comes out?
#1712 [06:05] <aetherian> musta pressed the up button
#1713 [06:05] <aetherian> dammit
#1714 [06:05] <aetherian> I am /not/ talking to myself!
#1715 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. you kinda are.
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#1717 [06:06] <aetherian> SSH
#1718 [06:06] <aetherian> YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT
#1719 [06:08] <GLaDOS> aetherian u mad?
#1720 [06:08] <aetherian> no- just fey.
#1721 [06:08] <aetherian> :)
#1722 [06:10] <aetherian> okay? okay. glad we could come to a mutual understanding.
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#1724 [06:14] <Zircon_X> Hello everyone
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#1726 [06:15] <aetherian> hello, zork-1-x
#1727 [06:15] <Zircon_X> That is the most awesome take on my name I have ever read ever
#1728 [06:16] <Zircon_X> http://www.diygamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/MinecraftCreeper.png
#1729 [06:16] <Zircon_X> Hilarious
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#1733 [06:26] <aetherian> kealper
#1734 [06:26] <aetherian> go to bed
#1735 [06:26] <aetherian> well, I'm going to bed, guys
#1736 [06:26] <aetherian> and kealper, go to bed
#1737 [06:27] <aetherian> so see you tomorrow, maybe
#1738 [06:27] <aetherian> and kealper, get some rest
#1739 [06:27] <aetherian> bye
#1740 [06:30] <Caironater|Mobile> ha
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#1746 [06:46] <Alfy3> Hello
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#1748 [06:47] <Jakob> hmm
#1749 [06:47] <Kealper> hmmm?
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#1752 [06:55] <fogWork> Ahhh
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#1755 [07:02] <Zircon_X> USE WORDS
#1756 [07:03] <fogWork> Where?
#1757 [07:04] <Zircon_X> I dunno
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#1761 [07:08] <Critflake> hi
#1762 [07:08] <Critflake> can somebody help me?
#1763 [07:08] <Zircon_X> OHAI
#1764 [07:09] <Zircon_X> Lol what seems to be the problem
#1765 [07:09] <Critflake> I started playing 4 days ago
#1766 [07:09] <Critflake> Peaceful , built a house etc...
#1767 [07:09] <Zircon_X> Welcome to minecraft what's up
#1768 [07:09] <Critflake> then I died
#1769 [07:09] <Gremmy> inb4creeper
#1770 [07:09] <Zircon_X> And you can't find your house?
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#1772 [07:09] <Critflake> Now I respawned and cant find my house again ;(
#1773 [07:09] <Zircon_X> Okay
#1774 [07:09] <Zircon_X> Well
#1775 [07:09] * fogWork snickers
#1775 [07:09] <Zircon_X> You have two options
#1776 [07:10] <Zircon_X> One is to wander randomly across an unkown landscape
#1777 [07:10] <Critflake> look for or building a new one ye
#1778 [07:10] <Zircon_X> the second is to find a new suitable location
#1779 [07:10] <Critflake> -.-
#1780 [07:10] <Zircon_X> and build a new selter
#1781 [07:10] <Zircon_X> THEN
#1782 [07:10] <Critflake> why cant i change my spawn point to my house when i die? or sth
#1783 [07:10] <Zircon_X> put torches along a path to your new establishment
#1784 [07:10] <Critflake> thats what i wanted
#1785 [07:11] <Zircon_X> I don't know, Notch works in mysterious ways
#1786 [07:11] <Critflake> but first i have to find and then i have to find the waay back to spawn :DDD
#1787 [07:11] <Critflake> can it happend that u find torches ?
#1788 [07:12] <Critflake> cause just found 2 in a lil dungeons
#1789 [07:12] <Critflake> -s
#1790 [07:12] <Zircon_X> I have never found a torch before
#1791 [07:12] <Critflake> probably my dungeon^^
#1792 [07:12] <Zircon_X> lol yeah
#1793 [07:12] <Critflake> of the first day
#1794 [07:12] <Zircon_X> Another fun thing to do
#1795 [07:12] <Zircon_X> is to make signs
#1796 [07:13] <Zircon_X> Giving directions
#1797 [07:13] <Zircon_X> (A sign being)
#1798 [07:13] <Zircon_X> PPP
#1799 [07:13] <Zircon_X> PPP
#1800 [07:13] <Zircon_X> S
#1801 [07:13] <Zircon_X> P = plank, s = stick
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#1803 [07:13] <Critflake> ah
#1804 [07:13] <Critflake> k
#1805 [07:13] <Zircon_X> It's what I do when I start finding big cavern systems
#1806 [07:14] <Zircon_X> Otherwise you get lost in a cavern and then suddenly oyu have loads of iron redstone gold diamonds
#1807 [07:14] <Zircon_X> then a skeleton archer owns you in the face
#1808 [07:14] <Critflake> ... ye
#1809 [07:14] <Zircon_X> and you will never find it again
#1810 [07:14] <Zircon_X> It's happened to me twice today
#1811 [07:14] <Zircon_X> THen I discovered signs :D
#1812 [07:14] <Zircon_X> I, too, am new to Minecraft
#1813 [07:15] <Zircon_X> BUT IT'S THE BEST THING EVEr
#1814 [07:15] <Zircon_X> R
#1815 [07:15] <Amikron> <Keanu Reeves> Bitchin' technology!
#1816 [07:15] <Critflake> i want to play but i sux now
#1817 [07:15] <Zircon_X> Yeaaaa
#1818 [07:15] <Critflake> dont understand the system when get a onehit by a monster u diddnt see
#1819 [07:15] <Zircon_X> My first few days were like that
#1820 [07:15] <Zircon_X> Yeah combat you just have to learn
#1821 [07:16] <Zircon_X> Tips: Strafe when being attacked by (a) skeleton(s)
#1822 [07:16] <Zircon_X> Now for creepers
#1823 [07:16] <Zircon_X> my only advice is:
#1824 [07:16] <Zircon_X> http://www.diygamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/MinecraftCreeper.png
#1825 [07:16] <Critflake> ^^
#1826 [07:17] <Zircon_X> And now I must go to bed
#1827 [07:17] <Critflake> ^^k ty
#1828 [07:17] <Zircon_X> or I will decapitate a customer tomorrow
#1829 [07:17] <Zircon_X> ANyways, I'll be here usually, send me a query or something if you need anything....
#1830 [07:17] <Zircon_X> ...Or you could ask the dozens of nice helpful people here
#1831 [07:17] <Critflake> ye^^ ty
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#1836 [07:50] <True|MC> I need to sleep, you should check Geek-o-Dome on your server out sometime Kealper
#1837 [07:50] <Kealper> geek-o-dome? lol
#1838 [07:50] <Kealper> did you lag at all after i said you might lag? lol
#1839 [07:50] <True|MC> Masaru named it that, becuase it's carved out of a mountain.
#1840 [07:50] <True|MC> somewhat.
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#1842 [07:50] <True|MC> We had more fun with some glitches like friendly creepers and invisable light speed mine carts
#1843 [07:51] <True|MC> well, I had fun with them
#1844 [07:51] <Kealper> oh man....i beat the crap out of my computer with super bad code trying to stress test something for fog lol
#1845 [07:51] <Kealper> 500 processes is not very nice to a computer when they are all making http requests :S
#1846 [07:51] <True|MC> XD
#1847 [07:52] <True|MC> 3 places you should see are the 2 enterinces and the study.
#1848 [07:52] <Kealper> btw http://kealper.com/mc updated every 24 hours
#1849 [07:52] <Kealper> last update was about 2 hours ago
#1850 [07:54] <fogWork> You has faulty chunks!
#1851 [07:54] <Kealper> oh, that faillighting?
#1852 [07:55] <fogWork> Or that :P
#1853 [07:56] <Kealper> hmm....not sure where they went off to, and i can't see their stuff on this...
#1854 [07:56] <True|MC> anyhow, check it out when ya can.
#1855 [07:56] * Kealper runs cartograph again
#1855 [07:57] <Kealper> oh, you are still here lol
#1856 [07:57] <Kealper> what direction did you go?
#1857 [07:57] <True|MC> just teleport to Masaru
#1858 [07:59] <Kealper> well, you lot have been busy lol
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#1860 [08:02] <peru> how many MB is your world?
#1861 [08:02] <Kealper> lemme check...
#1862 [08:03] <Kealper> still calculating -.-\
#1863 [08:03] <Kealper> not too big, about 22mb
#1864 [08:03] <peru> pretty decent
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#1866 [08:04] <Kealper> the one i had before this one was about 50mb, but this is not too old
#1867 [08:06] <True|MC> What do you think of the study? :D
#1868 [08:06] <Kealper> i didn't check the whole place out, i just skimmed over it, 1 sec i'll go look lol
#1869 [08:07] <True|MC> the study and 2 enterinces are the 3 places I'm most proud of.
#1870 [08:07] <True|MC> mostly becuase 1 enterince is well hidden, another is to the exit of a wide desert of awesome, and the study is just it's own brand of awesome.
#1871 [08:07] <Kealper> woh
#1872 [08:08] <Kealper> nice water wall lol
#1873 [08:08] <True|MC> carved out of a natural cave.
#1874 [08:08] <Kealper> nice
#1875 [08:08] <True|MC> infact both it and the hidden enterince are.
#1876 [08:10] <Kealper> definately looks like a study that would be cool to see irl :P
#1877 [08:14] <True|MC> Masaru said that when I first set up the waterfalls, most of the books, and couchs (he did most of the fine-carving after)
#1878 [08:15] <True|MC> "DAMN IT DRAKE... where is this place and how much would it cost for me to live there?"
#1879 [08:16] <Kealper> XD
#1880 [08:17] <Amikron> fine-carving?
#1881 [08:17] <Kealper> lolwut?
#1882 [08:18] <Amikron> i dont know true said it
#1883 [08:18] <Amikron> hence my questioning it
#1884 [08:18] <Kealper> oh
#1885 [08:18] <True|MC> mineing out iregular blocks and filling in gaps with smoothstone to give everything a good orderly aperince.
#1886 [08:18] <Amikron> not sure what he meant exactly
#1887 [08:18] <Amikron> oh so no new thing i missed during my time away haha
#1888 [08:18] <Amikron> i'm like we can carve rocks now wtf
#1889 [08:18] <Amikron> i read the blog how did i miss that
#1890 [08:18] <True|MC> XD
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#1893 [08:30] <Teozac> Hello
#1894 [08:31] <Teozac> I seem to be crashing all the time when i play
#1895 [08:31] <Teozac> It doesnt say it crash but it just goes all white and then stops repsonding
#1896 [08:31] <Kealper> does it give any crash reports?
#1897 [08:31] <Teozac> No
#1898 [08:31] <Kealper> O.o
#1899 [08:31] <Teozac> So what can i do?
#1900 [08:32] <Kealper> hmmm....
#1901 [08:32] <Kealper> try running as administrator?
#1902 [08:32] <Teozac> I mean i can run it for a while but then just boom
#1903 [08:32] <Teozac> Not at the start
#1904 [08:32] <Kealper> i might not be very helpful right now, i'm literally just running on mountain dew alone :S
#1905 [08:32] <Teozac> Mkk :/
#1906 [08:33] * Kealper wracks his overtired noggin for what could do that
#1906 [08:34] <Kealper> are you playing in browser or stand alone client?
#1907 [08:34] <Teozac> Client
#1908 [08:34] <Teozac> or.. wait
#1909 [08:34] <Teozac> WHy would i play in browser?
#1910 [08:34] <Kealper> is there some sort of error log in the same folder as the exe?
#1911 [08:34] <Kealper> idk, lots do
#1912 [08:35] <Teozac> Oh! It crashed now
#1913 [08:35] <Teozac> It says that java has crashed...
#1914 [08:35] <Kealper> hmm....
#1915 [08:35] <Teozac> I've tried downloading it again
#1916 [08:36] <Kealper> if i had to guess, it's trying to call something that does not exist, or can't be called for whatever reason
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#1918 [08:36] <Kealper> is your java, graphics, and audio drivers up to date?
#1919 [08:36] <Teozac> Java
#1920 [08:36] <Teozac> Yes
#1921 [08:36] <Teozac> But.. maybe not graphics..
#1922 [08:37] <Kealper> hmm....try downloading the graphics drivers from the official manufacturer's site
#1923 [08:42] <Kealper> well, if you have downloaded the latest drivers(from the official sites), made sure you are running java 1.6.0_23, and made sure you do not have any viruses or anything
#1924 [08:43] <Kealper> and it still crashes, then i'm out of ideas......i'd probably be of more help if i was drunk than i am with how tired i am now :S
#1925 [08:44] <Kealper> i'd love to stay and help with your problem, but i've got to get some sleep, so good luck :/
#1926 [08:44] <Teozac> Night
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#1933 [09:06] <Therion> How can i talk with an admin here?
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#1937 [09:14] <Con> :D
#1938 [09:14] <Con> Chanserv, voice me!
#1939 [09:15] <Therion> ask!
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#1941 [09:16] <TheMusicness> Hi, I need help
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#1944 [09:19] <TheMusicness> I need help :3
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#1946 [09:25] <Con> You need help!
#1947 [09:26] <TheMusicness> i got hich pitched sounds on minecraft
#1948 [09:26] <TheMusicness> How do i fix it?
#1949 [09:27] <Con> huh
#1950 [09:27] <Con> Try updating Minecraft's OpenAL
#1951 [09:27] <TheMusicness> :o?
#1952 [09:28] <Kastenbrot> Do you have the newest version of java?
#1953 [09:28] <TheMusicness> ...idk?
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#1955 [09:28] <TheMusicness> i got it when i got beta<
#1956 [09:28] <TheMusicness> High pitched sounds
#1957 [09:30] <TheMusicness> Any soultions?
#1958 [09:32] <Kastenbrot> http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/e2ygc/dae_hear_a_high_pitched_squealing_sound_when/
#1959 [09:32] <Kastenbrot> Maybe that helps
#1960 [09:35] <TheMusicness> It doesnt say how he fixed it
#1961 [09:35] <TheMusicness> Or does it?
#1962 [09:35] <Kastenbrot> Nope but it was the best I was able to find :D
#1963 [09:36] <Kastenbrot> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1964 [09:36] <Kastenbrot> There you can see if you have the newest version of java
#1965 [09:37] <TheMusicness> ''Oops! You don't have the recommended Java installed.''
#1966 [09:37] <TheMusicness> Thank you
#1967 [09:37] <Kastenbrot> Don't know if it helps, but it sure is the best thing to have the newest updates ;)
#1968 [09:38] <TheMusicness> got to reboot Computer
#1969 [09:38] <TheMusicness> Cya
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#1972 [09:43] <vapur> So is there a demo or trial for this before you buy it. I registered, downloaded os x version. it said i needed to play on the web, web said i needed to buy. whats the deal?
#1973 [09:44] <Con> payment lag
#1974 [09:44] <vapur> i didnt buy it yet
#1975 [09:44] <Kastenbrot> Yes there is a demo
#1976 [09:45] <Con> No there isn't
#1977 [09:45] <vapur> i was wondering if there was a demo, or how to use/play it
#1978 [09:45] <Kastenbrot> You can play an old version of the game
#1979 [09:45] <Con> The only thing anywhere near a demo was Survivaltest and that's not on the site anymore
#1980 [09:45] <vapur> i saw the old version of the game on the site
#1981 [09:45] <Con> Classic is an old version but people still play it over the main branch of the game
#1982 [09:45] <vapur> should i try that as a demo
#1983 [09:45] <Kastenbrot> On minecraft.net on the right side it says "Play Minecraft Classic (Outdated, but free):"
#1984 [09:45] <Con> no
#1985 [09:45] <Con> It's not a demo of survival, at all
#1986 [09:46] <vapur> okay i saw that classic link ill check it out
#1987 [09:46] <vapur> con and kasten i dont mind, i just want to see something similar to the game play. so i will check out the classic see what its all about
#1988 [09:46] <Kastenbrot> Don't expect too much
#1989 [09:46] <vapur> why not?
#1990 [09:47] <Con> Survival and creative are vastly different
#1991 [09:47] <Kastenbrot> Because you have infinite material, no enemies, etc
#1992 [09:47] <vapur> gotcha
#1993 [09:47] <vapur> well i have a cousin that was raving about the game
#1994 [09:47] <vapur> so i look forward to checking it out either way
#1995 [09:48] <Kastenbrot> I think the best way to see the game is to watch "let's play"s on youtube
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#2000 [09:57] <mib_q9h5xi> how can i fix my minecraft if it says Minecraft Chrashed?
#2001 [09:58] <mib_q9h5xi> somebody there know that?
#2002 [09:58] <Kastenbrot> First of all I don't know anything
#2003 [09:58] <mib_q9h5xi> -.-
#2004 [09:58] <Kastenbrot> But I think nobody can help you because of the lack of details
#2005 [09:58] <mib_q9h5xi> hmm
#2006 [09:59] <Kastenbrot> When does that message occur, are there any error codes, etc
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#2009 [10:09] <LoZfan03> so, the Nether freezes/crashes on me every couple minutes
#2010 [10:09] <LoZfan03> anyone know how to make it not do that?
#2011 [10:10] <NinjaKirby> Not suffered that problem myself T_T I haven't been into the nether since a few patches though
#2012 [10:11] <LoZfan03> it's been doing it for me since since I got to the Nether, no more than a couple patches after Halloween :(
#2013 [10:12] <NinjaKirby> Done the usuals, deleted all data for redownload fresh? Tried entering it on a new map? (The latter a less then ideal solution, I realise)
#2014 [10:12] <LoZfan03> haven't tried it on a new map, no, but I have try reinstalling
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#2016 [10:13] <LoZfan03> *tried
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#2018 [10:19] <NinjaKirby> What never ceases to amaze me, is how people love Formatting to solve problems. I don't hear it as much anymore, but still on occasions, customers at work might say, "Sound isn't coming through my speakers anymore, TIME TO FORMAT!". Makes me facepalm.
#2019 [10:19] <NinjaKirby> I guess it's adjusting and understanding, but imo it's the absolute last resort. Starting over is never fun.
#2020 [10:20] <luckz> the smarter of those have disk images of a clean but configured system
#2021 [10:21] <NinjaKirby> Hehe, true, I never hear them mention those though XD
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#2026 [10:32] <Leidan_Wing> Hi, anyone can help me? My friends and I have problems running our servers. Sometimes they work properly but other times we cannot enter and the minecraft constantly says connection timed out: connect (of course, our ports are open, we can play sometime, as I said)
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#2033 [10:59] <AJHunter> ok, I'm back... I was forced to watch Toy Story 3 with my baby nephew ( :) ) then set the table and work on my room ( :( )
#2034 [11:00] <AJHunter> What was that about screens?
#2035 [11:00] <Con> Toy Story 3 was pretty cool
#2036 [11:00] <AJHunter> it was. but it was better in theaters.
#2037 [11:08] <AJHunter> ok, so, about my server...
#2038 [11:08] <AJHunter> Kealper mentioned something called screen. it's something for Ubuntu servers
#2039 [11:10] <mang0> kealper i updated mah graphics card properly and it works
#2040 [11:11] * Con pokes Kealper[OFF] with a long poking stick
#2040 [11:11] <AJHunter> I don't think he's on...
#2041 [11:11] <Con> get back on
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#2043 [11:13] <AJHunter> xales: Kealper mentioned something call Screen or something like that... It's something about a Linux server having multiple windows?
#2044 [11:13] <Diablothein> AJHunter, it's not only Ubuntu, it's all of Linux.
#2045 [11:14] <AJHunter> would it help me set up my MC clasic server?
#2046 [11:14] <Peter-C> Can you have moar then 5 worlds?
#2047 [11:16] <Diablothein> Peter, yeah, just remove a world from your saves directory and store it elsewhere, that'll let you add another world in place of the other one.
#2048 [11:20] <Diablothein> AJHunter, sorry, can't help you, I don't deal with servers, and I've not played classic, at all.
#2049 [11:21] <AJHunter> ah...
#2050 [11:26] <AJHunter> time for food... be back soon...
#2051 [11:29] <CorneliousJD|Work> anybody know of a way to get rid of a painting in SMP? :(
#2052 [11:30] <feenyx> bash it with an axe? :)
#2053 [11:30] <CorneliousJD|Work> they dont break in SMP
#2054 [11:31] <CorneliousJD|Work> even destroying the wall behind it doesn't work, they just float there ominously.
#2055 [11:31] <feenyx> that's odd, I specifically recall being able to break them
#2056 [11:31] <feenyx> hang on, I'll test on mine
#2057 [11:32] <CorneliousJD|Work> make sure its on multiplayer. i guess thats where the bug exists. i checked minepedia after i was seeing it happen
#2058 [11:32] <CorneliousJD|Work> it just spews out paintings on every hit that you can't ever pick up lol
#2059 [11:34] <feenyx> indeed it does
#2060 [11:35] <feenyx> server window doesn't throw any errors either
#2061 [11:35] <CorneliousJD|Work> oh. i think i just got it gone
#2062 [11:35] <CorneliousJD|Work> i destroyed the blocks behind it. restarted the server, and logged back in and the pantings are gone now?
#2063 [11:35] <feenyx> could quite well be possible, but it's definitely a bug :p
#2064 [11:36] <feenyx> I'll try it later when the server's empty
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#2070 [12:06] <Mikau> Hello ladies.
#2071 [12:08] <feenyx> Hello lady
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#2074 [12:22] <Alfy3> Hello?
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#2076 [12:22] <Alfy3> Im having trouble getting onto one server but other servers work
#2077 [12:23] <nidefawl> what the... somebody again griefed areas on my server. set things on fire and built a nazi sign between it lol
#2078 [12:23] <nidefawl> i need some anti gireifing
#2079 [12:24] <Alfy3> I cant connect to the FAT role play server
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#2081 [12:24] <Alfy3> its stuck o downloading terrain
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#2084 [12:33] <mikelollu> anyone online?
#2085 [12:34] <mikelollu> i need help asap
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#2087 [12:35] <mikelollu> Windows 7 64 bit seems to have EPIC delay... Any help? I have been told to run it in compatibility mode, but can anyone PLEASE tell me how?
#2088 [12:36] <Alfy3> loading what
#2089 [12:36] <Alfy3> My Windows 7 wnt load terrain ona server
#2090 [12:36] <NinjaKirby> I'm running the Minecraft Executable on Win7 64bit fine O_o But right click the Executable and hit properties
#2091 [12:36] <NinjaKirby> Second tab along is Compatibility
#2092 [12:36] <mikelollu> yeah but
#2093 [12:37] <mikelollu> what version should i select
#2094 [12:37] <NinjaKirby> Not a clue, I'd probably go for WinXP SP3
#2095 [12:37] <mikelollu> trying it
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#2097 [12:38] <mikelollu> its having trouble downloading terrain
#2098 [12:38] <mikelollu> ok
#2099 [12:38] <mikelollu> didnt work at all
#2100 [12:38] <mikelollu> any more ideas?
#2101 [12:39] <NinjaKirby> Downloading terrain? I'm not up on the Minecraft files, is that a component, or you mean generating terrain?
#2102 [12:39] <mikelollu> Alfy3: yeah me too, and chat doesnt load
#2103 [12:39] <NinjaKirby> Oh right, Server stuff, I'm lost then
#2104 [12:39] <mikelollu> no
#2105 [12:39] <mikelollu> i connect to the server
#2106 [12:39] <mikelollu> and the terrain doesnt load up right
#2107 [12:40] <mikelollu> and i eventually just time out
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#2109 [12:48] <Xaviergmail> dropped items stops minecarts?
#2110 [12:49] <Xaviergmail> :(
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#2113 [12:50] <barrycarlyon> Xaviergmail: multiplayer single player or both?
#2114 [12:50] <illbeback> when i finished the payment stuff this appears authentication denied.
#2115 [12:50] <Xaviergmail> single
#2116 [12:50] <Xaviergmail> !payment
#2117 [12:50] <xales> illbeback: using paypal?
#2118 [12:50] <Xaviergmail> o kealper removed it
#2119 [12:50] <illbeback> no
#2120 [12:51] <xales> the card information you entered is wrong
#2121 [12:51] <illbeback> but the security check of my bank appeared
#2122 [12:52] <xales> then you failed to pass that
#2123 [12:53] <illbeback> no it worked after passing it this appeared on the dibs site authentication denied
#2124 [12:53] <xales> then you should talk to your bank. authentication denied means your bank declined the card
#2125 [12:53] <illbeback> okthx
#2126 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> (that or the bank was suspicious of a sale to Sweeden)
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#2128 [13:03] <barrycarlyon> Isn't a paypal problem really?
#2129 [13:03] <barrycarlyon> Since minecrat doesn't process credit cards directly
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#2132 [13:12] <Xaviergmail> yey I finally made something out of logic gates
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#2134 [13:13] <NinjaKirby> Nice Xavier :D Fun once you get into them
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#2136 [13:19] <Xaviergmail> now time to hide this under my walls..
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#2138 [13:25] <mib_wcbg04> hey does anyone know of a fix for the minecraft bug where its restarts your computer?
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#2141 [13:26] <valuial> ... interesting addition to the Topic =)
#2142 [13:26] <DopeGhoti> mib_wcbg04: I am blissfully inaware of any such bug.
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#2144 [13:27] <Jackson413> hi
#2145 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#2146 [13:27] <Jackson413> i need some help with server connection matters
#2147 [13:27] <Jackson413> i want other people to connect to this server
#2148 [13:27] <Jackson413> and they cannont
#2149 [13:27] <Oggrish> connect the cable
#2150 [13:27] <Jackson413> cannot
#2151 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> whay happens when they try?
#2152 [13:27] <Jackson413> :*
#2153 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> er, what happens rather.
#2154 [13:28] <Jackson413> they time out
#2155 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> what is the server's address?
#2156 [13:28] <valuial> 127.0.0.1
#2157 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> har har.
#2158 [13:28] <Jackson413> the servers address is the real ip of the computer
#2159 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> splendid.
#2160 [13:28] <Jackson413> from whatismyip.com?
#2161 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> what is it?
#2162 [13:28] <Jackson413> is that right?
#2163 [13:28] <Oggrish> its not from there
#2164 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> that'd be one place to get it, yes.
#2165 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> though
#2166 [13:29] <Oggrish> but its one way to find it
#2167 [13:29] <Jackson413> 24.210.28.18
#2168 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> !check 24.210.28.18
#2169 [13:29] <Oggrish> give them that ip lol
#2170 [13:29] <Oggrish> =)
#2171 [13:29] <Jackson413> it wont work
#2172 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> looks like your server is up and running and allowing connections on the correct port
#2173 [13:30] <Jackson413> can u try it and see for urself
#2174 [13:30] <Jackson413> cause i have given that one out
#2175 [13:31] <Oggrish> could be some special firewall settings on the router or the server
#2176 [13:31] <Oggrish> but you probably already had a look
#2177 [13:31] <Jackson413> ill try once more
#2178 [13:31] <Oggrish> maybe your friends that have internet
#2179 [13:31] <Oggrish> dont have internet
#2180 [13:32] <Oggrish> im stoned
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#2182 [13:32] <Jackson413> lolol
#2183 [13:33] <Jackson413> 25565
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#2187 [13:45] * genshou sighs
#2187 [13:45] <Phayze> Quick FAQ, being a person who has ran multiple multiplayer servers previously, is the new survival multiplayer work like singleplayer does? do you take damage etc
#2188 [13:45] <Phayze> baddies spawn and you can actually kill them
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#2190 [13:45] <genshou> When I've played smp I die a lot ;<
#2191 [13:45] <arron> hi
#2192 [13:46] <genshou> Laggy servers make monsters eat me D:
#2193 [13:46] <arron> i have a question
#2194 [13:46] <Phayze> well in alpha you couldnt take damage.
#2195 [13:46] <Phayze> so im asking if this was implemented with the beta release
#2196 [13:47] <xales> ask the question then
#2197 [13:47] <Phayze> I did.
#2198 [13:47] <arron> do u know where the game gonna be able to run smothly because i cant seem to run anything on my computer or it lags like crazy
#2199 [13:47] <xales> what kind of computer do you have
#2200 [13:48] <arron> mindows 7 home nivdia 9400 gt 2gs of ram direct x 10 and an amd dule core 5600 2600mz
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#2202 [13:48] <arron> windows*
#2203 [13:49] <Phayze> system specs are perfectly capable, I think you need to clean up your computer badly
#2204 [13:49] <xales> it sounds like the processor would be choking
#2205 [13:49] <Phayze> for minecraft? give me a break
#2206 [13:49] <Phayze> that can play BFBC2/
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#2208 [13:50] <xales> the computer isn't fast enough to play it without lag
#2209 [13:50] <xales> that is why its laggy
#2210 [13:50] <arron> i can play my over 71 games fine
#2211 [13:50] <Phayze> Download a few programs, CCleaner, spybot search and destroy
#2212 [13:50] <arron> i can mutitask fine
#2213 [13:50] <Phayze> and run them
#2214 [13:50] <xales> what does that have to do with playing minecraft?
#2215 [13:50] <arron> but mine cratft it dont like it
#2216 [13:50] <Phayze> Minecraft looks like shit
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#2218 [13:50] <Phayze> i get like 500 fps in minecraft
#2219 [13:50] <xales> nobody else experiences "lag like crazy"
#2220 [13:50] <xales> therefor, it is an issue with your computer
#2221 [13:50] <Phayze> Yeah so he has to clean up his computer
#2222 [13:50] <Phayze> There is nothing wrong with his specs
#2223 [13:51] <Phayze> its just running like shit
#2224 [13:51] <arron> i clean and scan my computer everyday
#2225 [13:51] <Phayze> Use Ccleaner
#2226 [13:51] <Phayze> right now
#2227 [13:51] <Phayze> and then also defragment the hard drives
#2228 [13:51] <arron> ok
#2229 [13:51] <Phayze> update java
#2230 [13:51] <arron> update java?
#2231 [13:51] <xales> no
#2232 [13:51] <xales> as i said
#2233 [13:51] <Phayze> Minecraft uses java to run
#2234 [13:51] <arron> its at the latest version
#2235 [13:51] <xales> it is a hardware problem
#2236 [13:52] <Phayze> I got a computer right next to me with similar specs and it runs it fine.
#2237 [13:52] <Phayze> Update your drivers also
#2238 [13:52] <Phayze> a 10 year old pc can run minecraft
#2239 [13:52] <Phayze> his is only 4 or so years old, and the video card is only 3 generations old
#2240 [13:52] <arron> ok im doing them now one sec
#2241 [13:53] <Phayze> So CCleaner, defragment hard drive, install new java, and reinstall drivers from nvidias website.
#2242 [13:53] <Phayze> it should run fine after
#2243 [13:53] <arron> my compuiter is a year old i cutom built it all buind new
#2244 [13:53] <Phayze> The parts you used are older than that
#2245 [13:53] <Phayze> thats old stuff
#2246 [13:53] <arron> ill be right back
#2247 [13:54] <arron> gotta shut off firefox
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#2253 [14:06] <Phayze> so with beta survival multiplayer actually works correct?
#2254 [14:09] <fork> how did it not work before?
#2255 [14:09] <xales> ?
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#2258 [14:15] <Phayze> Well you would not lose health
#2259 [14:15] <Phayze> monsters could not die unless you pushed them off cliffs
#2260 [14:15] <Phayze> so it was pointless to have monsters spawning, as the creepers would just blow up your shit
#2261 [14:16] <Phayze> and you could not get ham etc from pigs because you could not kill them unless you were in a position to toss them overboard, and ham was pointless anyways because you could do a 1000 block fall and still be at full hp
#2262 [14:16] <Phayze> did they fix that?
#2263 [14:19] <DopeGhoti> well, you could also kill things with fire
#2264 [14:19] <DopeGhoti> but yes, health was working in SMP as of the last few alphas
#2265 [14:19] <Phayze> ah yeah i played the haloween one last
#2266 [14:20] <Phayze> 1.21?
#2267 [14:20] <Phayze> cool
#2268 [14:20] <xales> who are you talking to? ._.
#2269 [14:20] <Phayze> Thanks
#2270 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> xales: whom are you asking?
#2271 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> Phayze: you're welcome
#2272 [14:22] <xales> oh lol
#2273 [14:23] <xales> for some reason the nick phayze is on my ignore list
#2274 [14:23] <xales> from another net
#2275 [14:23] <Phayze> No its from this one, 10 minutes ago
#2276 [14:23] <xales> ?
#2277 [14:23] <Phayze> Tried to argue with me that this guys 2.4ghz amd processor was not good enough for minecraft and that is why he was lagging
#2278 [14:24] <Phayze> remember now?
#2279 [14:24] <xales> oh, if you were talking, I was ignoring you hehe
#2280 [14:24] <xales> no, I ignored someone on anther network wiht tha name "phayze"
#2281 [14:24] <Phayze> oh i see
#2282 [14:24] <xales> a looong time ago
#2283 [14:24] <Phayze> super random
#2284 [14:24] <xales> like 4+ years
#2285 [14:24] <Phayze> was probably me then too :oo
#2286 [14:24] <xales> lol
#2287 [14:25] <Phayze> Anyways it was super random, like i was giving him advice and you would say something that correlated with what i said
#2288 [14:25] <xales> haha, I had no idea ._.
#2289 [14:25] <Phayze> like "Your processor is slowimg you down"
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#2291 [14:25] <xales> >.>
#2292 [14:25] <Phayze> I said he should just reinstall drivers, run ccleaner, update java
#2293 [14:26] <Phayze> and run spybot
#2294 [14:26] <xales> well at least you had him gone for a while ._.
#2295 [14:26] <xales> I particularly dislike the people who, when we tell them the problem, decide they don't like that and so that mustn't be the problem
#2296 [14:27] <Phayze> You see it all the time when game developers try to tell people to update their video drivers. People are shocked to find when they actually do do that, it fixes like all of their problems
#2297 [14:28] <Phayze> now i doubt minecraft requires more than a rage32 and a 400mhz celeron, i do not know how people have problems with it
#2298 [14:29] <xales> it actually uses an absur amount of CPU for what its doing
#2299 [14:29] <xales> and the graphics card has to be a real card thats somewhat modern, but thats really about it
#2300 [14:30] <xales> but there are plenty of people trying to play on their integrated off-brand 16mb card with 420mb ram and a 1.5ghz single core processor
#2301 [14:30] <xales> ._.
#2302 [14:30] <Phayze> rofl
#2303 [14:31] <Phayze> 10 year old processor pz
#2304 [14:31] <Phayze> i remember my amd xp 1800, not as good as my i7 950 i must say
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#2306 [14:32] <xales> I can't imagine it was >.>
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#2308 [14:32] <Phayze> they overclock the same, 4.2ghz with stock voltages on the 950 and like 2300 mhz stock on the xp 1800
#2309 [14:32] <Phayze> thing was a beast
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#2311 [14:34] <xales> that reminds me, I probably ought to look into OCing my processor, which is getting a bit old now
#2312 [14:34] <xales> I got this giant heatsink for it but haven't really tried much OCing
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#2315 [14:35] <sinedeviance> hey all
#2316 [14:35] <sinedeviance> anybody ever get a graphical glitch like this one? it's related to the crosshair -> http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/Akorax/Mysteriusglow.jpg
#2317 [14:37] <xales> looks like its just something that your texture pack is doing to the crosshair
#2318 [14:37] <sinedeviance> well yeah, but i checked. there's nothing wrapping around that would cause the white speck
#2319 [14:37] <sinedeviance> i made the texture pack (sorta)
#2320 [14:38] <sinedeviance> it's doku's RPG pack; i'm maintaining it
#2321 [14:40] <Diablothein> It's graphics related, I saw something similar to it when I was standing at the top of my house, pressed the inventory screen, a brownish gash popped up behind the inventory screen.
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#2328 [14:51] <sinedeviance> Diablothein: more than one user has experienced the issue.
#2329 [14:52] <xales> so I may have an idea
#2330 [14:53] <xales> ._.
#2331 [14:53] <xales> 14:46:50 < Drule> xales: Well no, but we've implemented a new rendering class that we think might cause problems with certain video cards.
#2332 [14:53] <xales> could be that^
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#2334 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#2335 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> who is Drule?
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#2337 [15:00] <AJHunter> trying to set up a server... running the latest Ubuntu server edition. I have the minecraft-server.zip downloaded and unpacked, but there's no script included for linux systems! halp?
#2338 [15:01] <xales> you don't need a script to run it
#2339 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> erm
#2340 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> don't get a zipfile
#2341 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> get a jarfile
#2342 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> !server
#2343 [15:01] <xales> also, ^that
#2344 [15:01] <xales> the zipfile is for classic servers
#2345 [15:02] <Diablothein> AJHunter, hope you made a second account to run the server on. Running a server on your root account is pretty much posting a sign that says HACK ME.
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#2348 [15:03] <AJHunter> yes, I wanted the zip. no it's not in the root.
#2349 [15:03] <Diablothein> Cool, also, remember, this is Linux, .exe files do not work.
#2350 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> ..."in the root"?
#2351 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> interesting phraseology
#2352 [15:04] <AJHunter> I know. until wine works on servers.
#2353 [15:04] <Diablothein> Uhm.
#2354 [15:04] <Diablothein> No.
#2355 [15:04] <Diablothein> Dude. Just no.
#2356 [15:05] <Diablothein> WHY in the nine hells would you want to run a server through Wine? That's like putting an electronic speed muzzle on a dragster. You don't do that.
#2357 [15:05] <Diablothein> Run it native and it will perform MUCH better.
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#2360 [15:06] <AJHunter> I know.
#2361 [15:06] <xales> and wine does work on servers ._.
#2362 [15:06] <Diablothein> why use it if there's a native for it ._.
#2363 [15:06] <AJHunter> I'm putting a MC clasic server on Ubuntu server.
#2364 [15:06] <AJHunter> wait... it does?
#2365 [15:06] <Con> Hum
#2366 [15:06] <Diablothein> It's like using Wine for Neverwinter Nights, when you can just reconfigure it to work natively.
#2367 [15:07] <AJHunter> lik, install wine on a server? that seems pointless...
#2368 [15:07] * Con pokes AJHunter with his butterfly knife
#2368 [15:07] <AJHunter> ow!
#2369 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> there is no, repeat no, reason to use WINE to run a Minecraft server.
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#2371 [15:07] <AJHunter> I was't planning to.
#2372 [15:07] <xales> DopeGhoti: there is reason NOT to
#2373 [15:08] <AJHunter> it's just harder to use sarcasm on text-only chat.
#2374 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> No it isn't. It's just harder to use _successfully_.
#2375 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> Anyhow, once you have the .jarfile, run it with java per the directions on minecraft.net
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#2378 [15:11] <AJHunter> wel... that makes more sense... Kealper had said to get the zip and unzip it... which didn'tmake as much sense...
#2379 [15:11] <AJHunter> 404 not found...
#2380 [15:11] <xales> are you trying to run a beta or classic server
#2381 [15:11] <AJHunter> clasic
#2382 [15:12] <xales> then you need the zip
#2383 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#2384 [15:12] <AJHunter> oh... thenignore the 4040...
#2385 [15:12] <AJHunter> so... how do I run the server?
#2386 [15:12] <AJHunter> something like java minecraft-server.jar?
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#2388 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> if you extract the .zip, is there a jarfile within?
#2389 [15:13] <AJHunter> yes
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#2391 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> try running that jarfile
#2392 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> (via java)
#2393 [15:16] <AJHunter> hoo, boy...
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#2395 [15:18] <AJHunter> It just listed some packages and said toget one of them...
#2396 [15:18] <xales> what packages did it list
#2397 [15:18] <xales> name one of them
#2398 [15:19] <AJHunter> gcj-4.4-jre-headless
#2399 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> ...have you got Java installed on your server?
#2400 [15:20] <AJHunter> niet
#2401 [15:20] <AJHunter> nien
#2402 [15:20] <AJHunter> no
#2403 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> well, that'd be the problem
#2404 [15:20] <xales> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
#2405 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> 'sudo apt-get install sin-java6-jre'
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#2407 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> can has slow typing :p
#2408 [15:20] <xales> lol
#2409 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> anyhow, run that command and then you'll be able to follow our earlier 'run the jarfile' directive :)
#2410 [15:22] <AJHunter> sud apt-GOT! (lame joke! :-D)
#2411 [15:22] <xales> AJHunter: apt-get moo
#2412 [15:22] <xales> err
#2413 [15:22] <xales> aptitude moo
#2414 [15:22] <xales> xD
#2415 [15:22] <AJHunter> is the command 'java minecraft-server.jre'?
#2416 [15:22] <xales> no
#2417 [15:23] <xales> java -jar minecraft-server.jar
#2418 [15:23] <AJHunter> *.jar, I mean
#2419 [15:23] <xales> no
#2420 [15:23] <AJHunter> Oh! thanks...
#2421 [15:23] <xales> java -jar minecraft-server.jar
#2422 [15:23] <xales> lol
#2423 [15:23] <AJHunter> it listed the same packages again...
#2424 [15:24] <xales> then you didn't install the package
#2425 [15:24] <xales> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
#2426 [15:24] <xales> ^make sure you do that
#2427 [15:24] <xales> and if it asks for confirmation, hit yes and whatever
#2428 [15:25] <AJHunter> I just retried and it said no such package... I did it the first time with sudo aptitud install
#2429 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> if you don't have sun-java6-jre, you probably need to enable the {uni,multi}verse repo
#2430 [15:26] <lunarblu> AJHunter, what version of OS do you have?
#2431 [15:26] <AJHunter> latest ubuntu server release.
#2432 [15:26] <lunarblu> DopeGhoti, yes Ubunto disablesd sun java
#2433 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> 10.10?
#2434 [15:27] <lunarblu> AJHunter, I just installed it on ubunto myself
#2435 [15:27] <lunarblu> let me pull the line from my sorce.list files
#2436 [15:27] <lunarblu> I can walk you though an install
#2437 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> yep, sun-java6-jre is in Multiverse
#2438 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> to you have that repo enabled?
#2439 [15:27] <AJHunter> ok, second-latest... 10.04LTS
#2440 [15:27] <lunarblu> yeah it disabled in 10.X
#2441 [15:28] <AJHunter> how do I enable it?
#2442 [15:28] <lunarblu> 1 sec
#2443 [15:28] <lunarblu> let me pull the line you need
#2444 [15:28] <AJHunter> I haven't used Ubuntu in so gorram long...
#2445 [15:28] <lunarblu> AJHunter,
#2446 [15:29] <AJHunter> yerp?
#2447 [15:29] <lunarblu> cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.sav
#2448 [15:29] <lunarblu> ops
#2449 [15:29] <lunarblu> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.sav
#2450 [15:30] <lunarblu> vi or emac the file at /etc/apt/sources.lis and add this line
#2451 [15:30] <lunarblu> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner
#2452 [15:31] <lunarblu> save the sources.list ; run 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get install sin-java6-jre'
#2453 [15:31] <lunarblu> Now you have it installed
#2454 [15:32] <AJHunter> OOOHHH! COLORFULL!
#2455 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#2456 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> ease back on the LSD drip there, sparky
#2457 [15:32] <AJHunter> no, vi, (which I have never used) wsa a sudden burst of color from the b/w output of the server!
#2458 [15:33] <lunarblu> AJHunter, recomendation is to set this up as well
#2459 [15:33] <lunarblu> AJHunter, Are you using a ubunto desktop?
#2460 [15:34] <lunarblu> use this server start, stop, backup script
#2461 [15:34] <lunarblu> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_startup_script
#2462 [15:34] <lunarblu> AJHunter, ^^
#2463 [15:35] <AJHunter> wait... I'm still trying to figure out vi...
#2464 [15:35] <lunarblu> AJHunter, oh
#2465 [15:35] <lunarblu> 1 sec
#2466 [15:35] <AJHunter> adding a line isn't going too well...
#2467 [15:35] <lunarblu> do ESC
#2468 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> to add a line, press O and start typing
#2469 [15:35] <lunarblu> :q!
#2470 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> when you're done, press ESC
#2471 [15:35] <lunarblu> exit out of vi
#2472 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> then type :wq
#2473 [15:35] <lunarblu> just exit
#2474 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> to write and quit
#2475 [15:35] <lunarblu> I'll give you an echo command
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#2477 [15:36] <lunarblu> AJHunter, do this
#2478 [15:36] <lunarblu> sudo echo "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
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#2480 [15:38] <LoZfan03> soooo does anyone here know why the Nether crashes on me every couple minutes?
#2481 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> LoZfan03: in SMP or SSP?
#2482 [15:39] <lunarblu> DopeGhoti, What does SMP and SSP mean?
#2483 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> Survival multiplayer / survival singleplayer
#2484 [15:41] <lunarblu> DopeGhoti, thanks
#2485 [15:41] <AJHunter> permission denied...
#2486 [15:41] <lunarblu> what comamnd did you run?
#2487 [15:42] <AJHunter> sudo echo "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
#2488 [15:42] <LoZfan03> sorry, on single player
#2489 [15:43] <lunarblu> AJHunter, Can you past the full message/
#2490 [15:43] <lunarblu> ?
#2491 [15:43] <LoZfan03> downloaded client, windows 7
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#2493 [15:45] <AJHunter> -bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
#2494 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> you sure you ran it with sudo?
#2495 [15:46] <lunarblu> AJHunter, you need sudo
#2496 [15:46] <AJHunter> yes.
#2497 [15:46] <AJHunter> I used sudo
#2498 [15:46] <lunarblu> I got that exact message without sudo
#2499 [15:46] <lukegb> ...
#2500 [15:46] <lunarblu> let me try a different way AJHunter
#2501 [15:47] <AJHunter> and I got it with...
#2502 [15:47] <lukegb> AJHunter: echo blah | sudo tee sources.list
#2503 [15:47] <lukegb> No
#2504 [15:47] <lukegb> Don't do that
#2505 [15:47] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#2506 [15:47] <lukegb> sudo nano it
#2507 [15:47] <lukegb> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
#2508 [15:47] <lunarblu> I totally forgot about nano
#2509 [15:47] <lukegb> You're running echo as sudo, then forwarding sudo's output to sources.list as a normal user
#2510 [15:47] <lunarblu> been using vi for so long
#2511 [15:48] <lunarblu> lukegb, good catch
#2512 [15:48] <AJHunter> woo! more colors!
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#2515 [15:50] <AJHunter> would it be faster to do something like this? :(){ :|: & };:
#2516 [15:50] <Broserk> Can somebody help me out with Multiplayer Minecraft?
#2517 [15:50] <AJHunter> : (){ :|: & };:
#2518 [15:50] <lunarblu> AJHunter, no fork boom pls
#2519 [15:51] <AJHunter> So, what you're saying is that that would not make this whole thing go faster?
#2520 [15:51] <Broserk> Can somebody help me out with Multiplayer Minecraft?
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#2522 [15:51] <AJHunter> very appropriate that a forkbomb has a sad face in it.
#2523 [15:51] <lunarblu> not sure if I can help but what your issue Broserk
#2524 [15:51] <Broserk> I just want to know how to do it
#2525 [15:51] <Broserk> me and my friend want to play together
#2526 [15:52] <Broserk> but when one of us tries to make a server with localhost
#2527 [15:52] <Broserk> it lags our internet out lol
#2528 [15:52] <Broserk> and lags really bad
#2529 [15:52] <Kealper> rawr?
#2530 [15:52] <lunarblu> Broserk, speedtest you conection
#2531 [15:52] <RadicalPi> hey
#2532 [15:52] <RadicalPi> is there any easy way to give large amounts of resources in SP?
#2533 [15:52] <Broserk> my connection is fine, i have a good internet, ethernet cord directly connected to my modem
#2534 [15:52] <Kealper> not without inventory hackig it
#2535 [15:53] <Kealper> hacking*
#2536 [15:53] <RadicalPi> what about if I setup a server on my computer?
#2537 [15:53] <lunarblu> AJHunter, did you get that nano command to work?
#2538 [15:53] <Kealper> RadicalPi: that would work, yes lol
#2539 [15:53] <AJHunter> yes.
#2540 [15:53] <lunarblu> RadicalPi, if you set upa server you can use the /give command
#2541 [15:53] <RadicalPi> thanks
#2542 [15:54] <lunarblu> Broserk, pls do a speed test so I know actualy numbers.
#2543 [15:54] <lunarblu> AJHunter, ok, do you have the rest of the commands?
#2544 [15:54] <AJHunter> but how do I save it now?
#2545 [15:54] <lunarblu> eerr uumm lukegb to the rescue ^^
#2546 [15:55] <lukegb> Ctrl-X
#2547 [15:55] <Broserk> 84 ms lunarblu
#2548 [15:55] <Broserk> 12.26 download
#2549 [15:55] * lukegb uses vim normally...
#2549 [15:55] * Kealper sucks at linux in general
#2549 [15:55] <Broserk> .9 upload
#2550 [15:55] <Broserk> 49
#2551 [15:55] <Kealper> Broserk: 0.49Mbit/sec upload?
#2552 [15:55] <Broserk> yes
#2553 [15:56] <Kealper> how many people did you have on said server?
#2554 [15:56] <Broserk> mb/s
#2555 [15:56] <Broserk> only myself and it was lagging pretty bad, but that may have been because i hadnt restarted in a while
#2556 [15:56] <lunarblu> AJHunter, let us know how your doing
#2557 [15:56] <Broserk> i only want me and my one friend to play
#2558 [15:56] <Kealper> Broserk: you are hosting it off the same machine you play it from, right?
#2559 [15:56] <Broserk> yeah
#2560 [15:57] <Kealper> how much ram does it have, and what cpu?
#2561 [15:57] <Broserk> i have other computers if i need to host it off of a different one
#2562 [15:57] <Broserk> 4 ram, intel duo
#2563 [15:57] <Broserk> 4gb
#2564 [15:57] <AJHunter> ok, saved... now what... I forgot why I did all that, lol...
#2565 [15:57] <Broserk> not sure how fast my cpu is
#2566 [15:57] <lunarblu> ok
#2567 [15:57] <lukegb> sudo aptitude update
#2568 [15:57] <lukegb> Or apt-get
#2569 [15:57] <lunarblu> AJHunter, sudo apt-get update no
#2570 [15:57] <lunarblu> by no I mean now
#2571 [15:58] <AJHunter> ok...
#2572 [15:58] <AJHunter> going...
#2573 [15:58] <Kealper> Broserk: you might have to host it from a different machine then, some people just lag really bad for no reason when hosting off their own machine
#2574 [15:58] <AJHunter> done!
#2575 [15:58] <Diablothein> Kealper bby!
#2576 [15:58] <lunarblu> AJHunterl; sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
#2577 [15:59] <Kealper> o.o
#2578 [15:59] <AJHunter> lol, apt-get moo
#2579 [15:59] <Kealper> fresh milk anyone?
#2580 [15:59] <Diablothein> sudo make_me_a_sandwich
#2581 [16:00] <lunarblu> hahah
#2582 [16:00] <AJHunter> getting...
#2583 [16:01] <AJHunter> and then it will make me a sammich
#2584 [16:01] <lunarblu> that the idea anyway
#2585 [16:01] <Kealper> it's gotta download all the dependancies like meat and bread first
#2586 [16:01] <AJHunter> 1/2 way done...
#2587 [16:02] <AJHunter> my computer is vegan.
#2588 [16:02] <AJHunter> so it can read my thoughts.
#2589 [16:02] <Kealper> being vegan makes you telepathic? awesome.
#2590 [16:02] <lunarblu> and kick your ass
#2591 [16:03] <lunarblu> Kealper, yes it does
#2592 [16:03] <Kealper> lol
#2593 [16:03] <lunarblu> what you didn't know
#2594 [16:03] <AJHunter> haven't you seen Scott Pilgrim?
#2595 [16:03] <AJHunter> O SHI--
#2596 [16:03] <AJHunter> failed to fetch some archives!
#2597 [16:03] <Kealper> man i am friggin tired...
#2598 [16:04] <lunarblu> ON SNAP
#2599 [16:04] <AJHunter> did you try sleeping?
#2600 [16:04] <Kealper> i tried....
#2601 [16:04] <Kealper> neighbor woke me up to walk with her to the store though...so i only got like 4 hours of sleep
#2602 [16:05] <AJHunter> that usually works for me...
#2603 [16:06] <lunarblu> AJHunter, did you get the server up and running?
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#2605 [16:07] <AJHunter> nope... unable to fetch some archives...
#2606 [16:07] <lunarblu> when installing java?
#2607 [16:07] <AJHunter> yep
#2608 [16:09] <lunarblu> AJHunter, ok pls paste.org the out put and paste the link for me
#2609 [16:09] <lunarblu> AJHunter, welcome to dependency hell.
#2610 [16:09] <lunarblu> lukegb, you a linux admin.
#2611 [16:10] <lunarblu> that was suppose to be a question
#2612 [16:10] <AJHunter> I can't... it's on another computer in a virtualbox
#2613 [16:10] <AJHunter> and I'm getting kicked off the computer.
#2614 [16:10] <AJHunter> ttyl!
#2615 [16:11] <lunarblu> AJHunter image paste bin... till next time
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#2621 [16:31] <jacklol> hey guys
#2622 [16:31] <jacklol> is the mp server upo?
#2623 [16:31] <jacklol> up*?
#2624 [16:32] <Kealper> mp?
#2625 [16:32] <jacklol> multiplayer
#2626 [16:32] <jacklol> cause mine wont connect :s
#2627 [16:33] <Kealper> idk, lemme see if i can connect to mine
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#2629 [16:33] <Kealper> login server could be screwy again
#2630 [16:33] <jacklol> hmm mine didnt work yesterday either
#2631 [16:33] <jacklol> i may ahev done somehtign wrong
#2632 [16:33] <jacklol> brb
#2633 [16:34] <Kealper> mine works
#2634 [16:36] <Kealper> the server you are trying to play on might be having issues and could be offline :/
#2635 [16:41] <Diablothein> Kealper bby, how are you :)
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#2638 [16:42] <Kealper> O.o
#2639 [16:42] <Diablothein> o.0
#2640 [16:42] <Diablothein> sup
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#2642 [16:42] <Kealper> so..tired...lol
#2643 [16:42] <Kealper> i'll probably go take a nap :/
#2644 [16:43] <Diablothein> Oh quit yer bitchin. I've been up since 6:00 AM, when I went to sleep at 2:00 AM :P
#2645 [16:43] <gropdop> hey guys, im trying to set up a minecraft server and I keep getting an error. Would anyone be willing to help me? :)
#2646 [16:43] <Diablothein> Dunno, what's the error?
#2647 [16:44] <gropdop> anytime me or my friend connects it kicks us
#2648 [16:44] <gropdop> and says "You msut be logged in"
#2649 [16:44] <Kealper> you downloaded the wrong server software
#2650 [16:44] <Kealper> common mistake
#2651 [16:44] <gropdop> 16:40:20 Kicking /127.0.0.1: You need to log in!
#2652 [16:44] <gropdop> oh
#2653 [16:44] <Kealper> shut down that server, delete all files related with it
#2654 [16:44] <Kealper> !server
#2655 [16:44] <gropdop> thank you :)
#2656 [16:44] <Kealper> get the correct one from one of those links
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#2658 [16:45] <Xaviergmail> hey help mineraft gets stucka t logging in -_-
#2659 [16:45] <Xaviergmail> !paid me
#2660 [16:46] <Kealper> on all servers?
#2661 [16:46] <gropdop> oh lol
#2662 [16:46] <gropdop> Kealper: this version of the server keeps crashing my internet
#2663 [16:46] <gropdop> thats why I tried a different download
#2664 [16:46] <Kealper> that's not good :/
#2665 [16:46] <gropdop> anytime anyone connects my internet just dies lol
#2666 [16:46] <gropdop> and i have to restart
#2667 [16:46] <gropdop> getting a heap error too >:3
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#2669 [16:47] <gropdop> server-ip=
#2670 [16:47] <Kealper> you'll have buy a new NIC (cheap) or if you've got a spare computer (or a parents' computer?) and host it off that :S
#2671 [16:47] <gropdop> can I leave this blank?
#2672 [16:47] <Kealper> yes
#2673 [16:47] <Kealper> blank means binds all availible addresses
#2674 [16:48] <gropdop> kk
#2675 [16:48] <gropdop> ok about to test one more time..
#2676 [16:48] <gropdop> if I time out
#2677 [16:48] <gropdop> you know the worst has happened!
#2678 [16:49] <Kealper> lol
#2679 [16:49] <gropdop> lol
#2680 [16:49] <Kealper> worst case, you have to end up running the server on a different computer :S
#2681 [16:49] <gropdop> yeah but i've hosted other game servers off this comp before
#2682 [16:49] <Diablothein> Worst case: You don't host a server.
#2683 [16:49] <gropdop> im bewildered as to what is happening
#2684 [16:49] <gropdop> Diablothein
#2685 [16:49] <Kealper> for some network adapters, it just KILLS it with the minecraft server
#2686 [16:49] <gropdop> no.
#2687 [16:49] <gropdop> :)
#2688 [16:50] <gropdop> weird
#2689 [16:50] <Diablothein> Lol, what router are you using?
#2690 [16:50] <Kealper> something with the way java handles sockets i would assume
#2691 [16:50] <Kealper> Diablothein: afaik it's a NIC issue, not a router one...quite a few people have this problem :S
#2692 [16:50] <Diablothein> Lol, that
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#2695 [16:50] <Diablothein> That's gotta suck
#2696 [16:51] <Kealper> indeed
#2697 [16:51] <gropdop> using a linksys D i believe
#2698 [16:51] <Diablothein> Ahh, that's also a problem.
#2699 [16:51] <Diablothein> Linksys sucks...
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#2701 [16:51] <gropdop> :\
#2702 [16:51] <gropdop> well im not connected wirelessly
#2703 [16:51] <gropdop> lol
#2704 [16:51] <mib_mps6vx> i have a problem
#2705 [16:51] <Kealper> most of the time it's Atheros chipsets that get killed, but ocasionally realtek aswell
#2706 [16:52] * Kealper runs a linksys
#2706 [16:52] <Kealper> and loves it >.
#2707 [16:52] <Kealper> >.>*
#2708 [16:52] <Diablothein> Son, want to buy my WRT310N?
#2709 [16:52] <mib_mps6vx> when i load my minecraft on my desktop, i get a black screen, and it never goes away
#2710 [16:52] <mib_mps6vx> and when i try to load in browser from the website,
#2711 [16:53] <Kealper> newer linksys ones are garbage, but the wrt54g is where it's at lol
#2712 [16:53] <mib_mps6vx> all i get is a java symbol and then the java loading screen
#2713 [16:53] <mib_mps6vx> help?
#2714 [16:53] <Diablothein> update java
#2715 [16:53] <mib_mps6vx> btw my game was working before beta cam out and now its running, not at all
#2716 [16:53] <Kealper> mib_mps6vx: you've updated your graphics drivers (from the official site, or the computer maker's site) and you've updated java?
#2717 [16:54] <mib_mps6vx> how can i update java? off the java website?
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#2719 [16:54] <Diablothein> mhm
#2720 [16:54] <Kealper> http://java.com
#2721 [16:54] <mib_mps6vx> i have already updated my graphics card and drviers
#2722 [16:54] <William|GCP> anyone have a link for the server configuration options? like how to set ip & port?
#2723 [16:54] <Diablothein> Kealper, I've had to reprogram my router because after a "mandatory firmware update" it nuked my entire network system.
#2724 [16:55] <Kealper> Diablothein: the firmware it comes with is garbage imo, dd-wrt ftw
#2725 [16:55] <Diablothein> Eh, it was decent to begin with, but it force updated one day, nuking my network.
#2726 [16:56] <Kealper> the firmware on it?
#2727 [16:56] <Diablothein> had to program in a simple loader so I could load up a different firmware.
#2728 [16:56] <Kealper> William|GCP: what sort of config options? everything you need will be in server.properties
#2729 [16:56] <Diablothein> Yeah, firmware. Now I'm using a Linux-based Firmware :D
#2730 [16:56] <William|GCP> i see Kealper i found the wiki :D
#2731 [16:56] <William|GCP> thanks
#2732 [16:57] <Kealper> amazing, someone actually bothered to RTFM....thank you William|GCP lol
#2733 [16:57] <Diablothein> woah...
#2734 [16:57] <Diablothein> Got a bit cold in here...
#2735 [16:57] <Kealper> so many people come in here and just assume the wiki is incorrect because anyone can edit it -.-
#2736 [16:58] <Diablothein> Wikipedia is a horrible place.
#2737 [16:58] <Diablothein> anybody can edit any pages, including the fully protected ones.
#2738 [16:58] * Kealper stabs Diablothein
#2738 [16:59] * Diablothein watches another cardboard dummy get stabbed.
#2738 [16:59] <Kealper> if you know how to use Wikipedia, it's an incredible source of info
#2739 [16:59] <Diablothein> HEY! I liked that one >:(
#2740 [16:59] <Kealper> lol
#2741 [16:59] <Cial> i like wikis most of the time if something is wrong someone with OCD will come through and fix what fucktards mess up
#2742 [16:59] <William|GCP> Kealper wasnt to clear where the wiki was tbh
#2743 [16:59] <William|GCP> had to google it after reading a msg on the console
#2744 [16:59] <William|GCP> going to add support for minecraft to gamecp
#2745 [16:59] <Kealper> minecraftwiki.net :P
#2746 [16:59] <William|GCP> yea :D
#2747 [17:00] <Kealper> forum is minecraftforum.net, need minecraft skins? minecraftskins.com (TkTech failed on that one :P)
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#2749 [17:00] <Kealper> for the most part, all resources relating to minecraft are minecraft*.net
#2750 [17:01] <William|GCP> is there a query system for minecraft?
#2751 [17:01] <William|GCP> to check status, players, online/offline?
#2752 [17:01] <LoZfan03> anyone know why I have a freezing problem in the Nether in SSP?
#2753 [17:01] <Kealper> not right now, but stats are planned
#2754 [17:01] <mib_mps6vx> i got a Downloaded File C:\Documents and Settings\ Administrator.JASONCOMP\Application Data\Sun\Java\ire1.6.0_23\ire.1.6.0_23-pfrom.22 msi is corrupt
#2755 [17:02] <Kealper> O.o
#2756 [17:02] <mib_mps6vx> I'm a hrdware guy not software, this is beyond me
#2757 [17:03] <mib_mps6vx> any ideas?
#2758 [17:03] <Kealper> did you try redownloading?
#2759 [17:04] <mib_mps6vx> i have not
#2760 [17:04] <mib_mps6vx> should i delete it from myt comp before redownloading?
#2761 [17:04] <LoZfan03> yeah, after I backed up the world
#2762 [17:04] <LoZfan03> no dice
#2763 [17:05] <Kealper> it should just overwrite it
#2764 [17:05] <genshou> Darn it, grow faster, 8x8 tree base Dx
#2765 [17:06] <mib_mps6vx> same problem, it went straight to black screen
#2766 [17:07] <Kealper> mib_mps6vx: want to hear something that you will not like?
#2767 [17:07] <Kealper> first, the primer: 73% of all statistics are made up on-the-spot
#2768 [17:08] <Kealper> now the meat and potatos: 90% of cases with black screens can't be fixed, because the hardware just can't run minecraft for whatever reason
#2769 [17:08] <mib_mps6vx> but i was able to run during aplha
#2770 [17:09] <Kealper> and by can't be fixed, i mean can't be fixed unless you get a new thing
#2771 [17:09] <Kealper> O.o
#2772 [17:09] <mib_mps6vx> when beta came down, it all went to crap
#2773 [17:10] <Kealper> hmm....
#2774 [17:10] <mib_mps6vx> ^(*.*)^
#2775 [17:10] <mib_mps6vx> throws hands up in the air
#2776 [17:10] <mib_mps6vx> i dunno what else to do
#2777 [17:11] <Kealper> i've got no idea then, if it worked before beta "S
#2778 [17:11] <Kealper> :S
#2779 [17:11] <mib_mps6vx> can you recomend me somewhere else?
#2780 [17:11] <mib_mps6vx> another source of corrections?
#2781 [17:11] <Kealper> my only suggestion would be to send an email to support@mojang.com
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#2783 [17:11] <mib_mps6vx> what should i say?
#2784 [17:12] <mib_mps6vx> my black screen won't go away, though the game worked for me during alpha?
#2785 [17:12] <Kealper> just state your case, tell them that the game worked fine in Alpha, but stopped working in Beta and that you are sure you have the latest Sun JRE and drivers
#2786 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> "Hey, somehting you changed in Beta is making my have the black-screen issue. here is my OS. Here is the hardware I'm running. How can I help in getting this solved for everyone?"
#2787 [17:12] <mib_mps6vx> Plus, during my last issue with black screen, i senth an email, and i never got a response, so i pursued this mibbit business
#2788 [17:13] <mib_mps6vx> i see, ok
#2789 [17:13] <Kealper> if it was a while back, lots of email would go unresponded
#2790 [17:13] <mib_mps6vx> I will do that then
#2791 [17:13] <Kealper> because it was just Notch trying to manage some 400k people
#2792 [17:14] <Kealper> Mojang is now 6 men strong so email support has got better lol
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#2794 [17:16] * Kealper goes semi-afk
#2794 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> which half?
#2795 [17:17] <Kealper> the left half
#2796 [17:18] <Kealper> quite literally...i've got irc open on my second monitor, and a movie on the first :P
#2797 [17:18] <feenyx> ridin dirty
#2798 [17:18] <feenyx> I've got the same setup
#2799 [17:18] <feenyx> only I'm watching Top Gear
#2800 [17:19] <Kealper> National Geographic: Ancient X Files on mine >.>
#2801 [17:21] * GreyVulpine snickers
#2801 [17:26] <genshou> I have two different computers in my setup :>
#2802 [17:27] <genshou> That way, I can use two different keyboards/mice
#2803 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> FCVO computers, I have as many as five.
#2804 [17:28] <genshou> I mean the ones I can reach while sitting at my desk ;)
#2805 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> including remotes, so do I.
#2806 [17:28] <genshou> Bah. Remotes are for televisions and stereos ;D
#2807 [17:30] <genshou> and chocolate pie is for desert (nomnom)
#2808 [17:30] <genshou> dessert too maybe.
#2809 [17:30] * Kealper turns off second monitor
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#2810 [17:30] <mib_mps6vx> ok, email sent. Now i wait?
#2811 [17:31] <shadowNET> anyone here know of a fix for the bug that restarts a computer?
#2812 [17:31] <sveri> what about the server, does it something like autosave?
#2813 [17:31] <sveri> or do i have to type save-all everytime i shut it down
#2814 [17:32] <genshou> Er... Minecraft is restarting your computer? o_O
#2815 [17:32] <genshou> You sure that's not something else going on, like a BSOD caused by driver instability?
#2816 [17:32] <Kealper> well then..that was fast....everyone needed help before i even reached over to press the power..figures
#2817 [17:32] <shadowNET> no my driver is up to date and people with nvidia and ATI cards have the issue
#2818 [17:33] <Kealper> sveri: it autosaves, but i'm stil paranoid and do a save-all before stopping it
#2819 [17:33] <Diablothein> Yep, it's bsod.
#2820 [17:33] <Diablothein> Wait, Windows?
#2821 [17:33] <sveri> Kealper: ok, thank you :-)
#2822 [17:33] <shadowNET> yeah
#2823 [17:33] <shadowNET> XP
#2824 [17:33] <Diablothein> Yep, bsod
#2825 [17:33] <genshou> My drivers are all up to date and I still get driver_irq errors infrequently.
#2826 [17:33] <shadowNET> but i dont get that my comp just restarts
#2827 [17:34] <shadowNET> like crashes & starts boot process
#2828 [17:34] <genshou> Of course since I changed admin settings so it doesn't auto-restart, which isn't the default, I get to actually read the BSOD as it happens ;x
#2829 [17:34] <Kealper> dev sounds like a bsod to me :/
#2830 [17:35] <Kealper> def*
#2831 [17:35] <shadowNET> and it only happens when i play multiplayer
#2832 [17:35] <Kealper> wireless?
#2833 [17:35] <shadowNET> yeah
#2834 [17:35] <genshou> Windows doesn't restart unless you tell it to, you encounter a BSOD, or a program specifically requests it.
#2835 [17:36] <genshou> A program crashing won't force a restart, but it will often lock up your system ;<
#2836 [17:36] <Kealper> drivers can cause a bsod
#2837 [17:36] <shadowNET> system never locks up just restarts
#2838 [17:36] <shadowNET> and i only have the problem when playing minecraft
#2839 [17:36] * GreyVulpine coughs
#2839 [17:36] <genshou> drivers are the cause of over 99% of BSOD I've encountered
#2840 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Microsoft update always forces a restart after a length of time
#2841 [17:37] <genshou> GreyVulpine, that's because a program requests the OS to do so.
#2842 [17:37] <genshou> (in this case, said program being the Windows Update Manager)
#2843 [17:37] <shadowNET> my microsoft update is off
#2844 [17:37] <Kealper> but that would be an obvious restart, from what i can tell, his computer just shuts off and comes back on
#2845 [17:37] <shadowNET> thats pretty much what happens
#2846 [17:38] <genshou> someone guide shadowNET through checking to see if his/her computer auto-restarts on BSOD
#2847 [17:38] <genshou> my Winblows machine is upstairs :x
#2848 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Control panel -> system
#2849 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Um, startup and recovery?
#2850 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> something like that
#2851 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Should be a checkbox in there with automatically restart on something or orther
#2852 [17:39] <shadowNET> yeah theres an automatic restart
#2853 [17:40] <genshou> turn that off so it won't automatically restart, then see if you get the terrible blue screen when this error occurs ;<
#2854 [17:40] <shadowNET> k
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#2856 [17:42] <genshou> somehow I doubt Notch was prepared for the population explosion that happened this year v_v
#2857 [17:42] <Scipher> Can anyone in here help me with a payment problem?
#2858 [17:42] <genshou> All these bugs and such show he's got a lot of work ahead :<
#2859 [17:43] <genshou> Most companies can't keep this many customers happy/deliver a product that works for all of them even with a much larger staff than he's got
#2860 [17:43] <genshou> Of course, they don't have Minecraft xD
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#2862 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> Scipher: depends on the problem
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#2864 [17:44] <Scipher> It's a problem with a Visa Debit gift card
#2865 [17:45] <Scipher> I registered it on the correct site, while the minecraft site and paypal both still reject it
#2866 [17:45] <Scipher> paypal won't accept it because it's non rechargable
#2867 [17:45] <Kealper> most places do
#2868 [17:45] <genshou> That's a fairly common problem with PayPal
#2869 [17:45] <Scipher> but ive used it on steam
#2870 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> Steam != PayPal
#2871 [17:45] <genshou> Also a fairly common problem with using the card directly on a paysite
#2872 [17:45] <Scipher> how does steam=paypal?
#2873 [17:46] <genshou> I would suggest you get a friend who has a credit card to buy it for you, then pay them in cash or buy them something with your gift debit card ;(
#2874 [17:46] <genshou> Scipher, != means "does not equal"
#2875 [17:46] <Scipher> I know, im just saying i know the card is in working order
#2876 [17:46] <genshou> ohshi, time for work
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#2878 [17:47] <aetherian> waugh
#2879 [17:48] <aetherian> purple with black background is annoying...
#2880 [17:48] <aetherian> in the aubot thing
#2881 [17:48] <shadowNET> anyone know of a server i can connect to so i can get my comp 2 restart
#2882 [17:48] <shadowNET> ?
#2883 [17:49] <xales> what?
#2884 [17:49] <Kealper> aetherian: that's the whole purpose of that color choice, it is supposed to be the most annoying thing ever so people notice it and read it right away
#2885 [17:49] <shadowNET> i need like a server ip so i can get more info on this bug im having
#2886 [17:49] <xales> what bug
#2887 [17:50] <aetherian> well, I think you should put some tutorial link for getting some basic knowledge of server administration on there
#2888 [17:50] <Kealper> potential bsods
#2889 [17:50] <Kealper> aetherian: you're free to write one lol
#2890 [17:50] <xales> its not something you can tutorialize
#2891 [17:50] <xales> its more of an experience thing
#2892 [17:50] <xales> than a knowledge thing
#2893 [17:50] <aetherian> well, I have no basic knowledge of it, so I'm not about to write it
#2894 [17:51] <aetherian> w:)
#2895 [17:51] <Diablothein> You can do a basic thing, that shows you what you can do, what you can't do, and some tipsntricks on being successful.
#2896 [17:54] <Kealper> Diablothein: you are welcome to set up something like that if you want lol
#2897 [17:54] <Diablothein> Funny.
#2898 [17:54] <Diablothein> I've not been on a single SMP server.
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#2900 [17:59] <Mathuin> I have a T intersection of minecart tracks. I'd like all carts entering the intersection from the north or south to head *east*, not west. How do I do this?
#2901 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> rearrange the T
#2902 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/South-west_rule
#2903 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> (also, what the..?! that article was a LOT longer like a week ago)
#2904 [18:02] <Mathuin> Ugh, I hate the southwest rule.
#2905 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> ah: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecart_tracks#South-west_Rule
#2906 [18:03] <Mathuin> Okay, so I'm seeing a S in my future.
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#2908 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> Or make the intersection from the north hop onto a bend
#2909 [18:07] <tallest_red> You could also use redstone to swap the direction of the T
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#2911 [18:08] <onix> I've got a question
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#2913 [18:08] <Jackson413> hi
#2914 [18:08] <tallest_red> >generally people do have questions here. :D
#2915 [18:09] <Jackson413> lol yes i do
#2916 [18:09] <Jackson413> hold on
#2917 [18:09] <onix> lol, okay so I blue screened screened while playing minecraft
#2918 [18:09] <Jackson413> do i have a question
#2919 [18:09] <Jackson413> while im running a server
#2920 [18:09] <Jackson413> it keeps saying
#2921 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> "can't keep up!"
#2922 [18:10] <Jackson413> [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#2923 [18:10] <Jackson413> tyeah
#2924 [18:10] <Mathuin> Yep, an S here.
#2925 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> ignore that message
#2926 [18:10] <Jackson413> yeah
#2927 [18:10] <Jackson413> what does it mean?
#2928 [18:10] <Jackson413> just normal?
#2929 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> it means Notch put in some metric that's overly sensitive to the tiniest variation in.. somehting
#2930 [18:10] <Mathuin> Sounds like minecraft thinks it may have spent too long on its per-tick tasks
#2931 [18:10] <Jackson413> lol ok thats
#2932 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> all servers get that message, but it's safe it let be
#2933 [18:10] <Jackson413> thanks
#2934 [18:10] <Jackson413> im out
#2935 [18:11] <onix> Then when I go back on to play, my save file that I was playing on said empty. I checked in my saves folder and everything is still there. I renamed the save folder then named it back to World1, still said empty. Then I made a copy and deleted the old World1 and named the World1 - Copy as World1 and it still said empty
#2936 [18:11] <onix> All because I blue screened and I don't know what to do, I have all the files
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#2938 [18:11] <Xaviergmail> this thing wont klet me login
#2939 [18:11] <Coll> lol
#2940 [18:12] <tallest_red> Some vitial file relating to the game detecting the save must not have written itself to the HDD before crash. :S
#2941 [18:12] <Coll> what is with Aubot
#2942 [18:12] <tallest_red> But I don't know what file that could be
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#2944 [18:12] <tallest_red> (this is why you keep backups of your save dirs)
#2945 [18:12] <onix> Haha I do but I don't keep backups every single save
#2946 [18:12] <onix> it's a few days back of a backup
#2947 [18:13] <tallest_red> Right, same here really. Too lazy to backup every single game quit
#2948 [18:13] <onix> So do you know what I should do?
#2949 [18:13] <tallest_red> Not exactly. I've never had -that- happen to me, but I would check the messed up save with the last working backup to see if there are differences in it.
#2950 [18:14] <tallest_red> Like, a file the backup had that's now missing
#2951 [18:14] <onix> I have no idea if this will work but I backed up the level.dat, level.dat_old and session.lock files from my World1 save
#2952 [18:14] <onix> and then I deleted them
#2953 [18:14] <onix> and replaced them with my World 3 ones haha
#2954 [18:14] <onix> going to try that
#2955 [18:15] <tallest_red> Might, I would say use it from you last backup of the messed up save but otherwise yea
#2956 [18:16] <onix> Ok....god damnit haha
#2957 [18:16] <onix> thanks
#2958 [18:16] <tallest_red> umm...is that a failure or it worked?
#2959 [18:16] <onix> yeah the backup worked
#2960 [18:17] <tallest_red> yay
#2961 [18:17] <onix> but sooooooooooooooooooooooo much stuff is gone lol
#2962 [18:17] <tallest_red> I wouldn't be suprised if something is weird tho
#2963 [18:17] <tallest_red> yea
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#2965 [18:17] <tallest_red> Because I don't know how data is like...stored throughout the save directory. So I don't know what files might make refernces to others. DOn't know what files missing will affect what inotherwords
#2966 [18:19] <Xaviergmail> does any1 know when RancorZealot's Pvp Paradise Serve will be back on
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#2969 [18:19] <Koa> Ok, I have a question. I disabled my firewall completely and my friend still cannot connect to me. If it is a matter of port idk what to do as I used a port checker and the port is still blocked somehow. So if it is the ports that causes my friend to not be able to connect how can I fix it?
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#2971 [18:20] <tallest_red> If you have a nat/router box between your machine and the internet - that has a firewall in it already
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#2973 [18:20] <tallest_red> Which is probably what's blocking you
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#2975 [18:20] <Koa> I thought of that too, but I have no clue as to get into this one.
#2976 [18:21] <tallest_red> Those boxes are controlled by a web interface. You load their settings panel as if it were a webpage. Only accessable from within your home network, not the internet.
#2977 [18:21] <tallest_red> usually it's an address like http://192.168.1.1/
#2978 [18:22] <chrawley> Well... I don't have any knowledge on administration of a server, but I when I initiate minecraft-server.jar on OSX, it doesn't initiate. It says there's an error and for me to check my console. I've done that and it says it's failed to load the Main-Class manifest attribute
#2979 [18:22] <tallest_red> But can be another address. 192.168.1.5 .0.1 .15.1 are other possibilities
#2980 [18:22] * GreyVulpine coughs
#2980 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Are you in the same directory where minecraft-server.jar is located?
#2981 [18:23] <chrawley> Yes
#2982 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> You're aboslutely sure?
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#2984 [18:23] <chrawley> Well it's the folder with minecraft-server.jar README.TXT and start server.bat
#2985 [18:24] <mib_vj8tj7> hi all
#2986 [18:24] <chrawley> Is that the right folder Vulpine?
#2987 [18:24] <mib_vj8tj7> there was an error while executing this application
#2988 [18:24] <mib_vj8tj7> this is for beta inbrowser
#2989 [18:25] <mib_vj8tj7> the .exe works fine but cant play without being online 1nce
#2990 [18:25] <mib_vj8tj7> i have the latest version of java and its a windows 7
#2991 [18:28] <chrawley> Hello, can I get help with executing minecraft.jar on OSX?
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#2993 [18:28] <mib_vj8tj7> help?
#2994 [18:29] <mib_vj8tj7> ican get it with my laptop mini but is extremely laggy
#2995 [18:32] <mib_vj8tj7> do i have to redownload java? if so how
#2996 [18:33] <Diablothein> Kealper's IP Address: 190.120.238.65
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#2998 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> chrawley - How are you executing minecraft-server.jar?
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#3001 [18:37] <mib_j3d9cl> am i able to play minecraft at all with this error?
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#3003 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> What error?
#3004 [18:40] <mib_j3d9cl> there was an error while executing this application
#3005 [18:40] <mib_j3d9cl> its a java one
#3006 [18:40] <mib_j3d9cl> i have windows 7 and latest update of java
#3007 [18:41] <xales> what was the error
#3008 [18:41] <mib_j3d9cl> one second
#3009 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Please pastebin.com it
#3010 [18:43] <mib_j3d9cl> there was an error while executing this application - this is all it says, there is a little exlamation point at the top right of corner
#3011 [18:45] <xales> go this url in your browser
#3012 [18:45] <mib_j3d9cl> already there
#3013 [18:45] <xales> no
#3014 [18:45] <xales> different one
#3015 [18:45] <xales> sec
#3016 [18:45] <mib_j3d9cl> oh
#3017 [18:45] * lemon-rev i just landed on top of a zombie, i surgest no one else do so :P
#3017 [18:45] <xales> www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
#3018 [18:46] * Diablothein sighs
#3018 [18:46] <Diablothein> How many more versions will I go through until this tree grows properly?
#3019 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> 19.
#3020 [18:46] <lemon-rev> wait 2 days
#3021 [18:46] <lemon-rev> for trees to grow
#3022 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> saplings have a half-life before they become trees
#3023 [18:46] <Diablothein> lemon, I've been at it for nearly 17 hours trying to get them to grow.
#3024 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> it could be 30 seconds
#3025 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> it could be weeks
#3026 [18:47] <mib_j3d9cl> it syays error click for details
#3027 [18:47] <lemon-rev> hum
#3028 [18:47] <lemon-rev> wtf, diablo where are you trying to grow them
#3029 [18:47] <mib_j3d9cl> with same eroor
#3030 [18:47] <lemon-rev> on sand
#3031 [18:47] <lemon-rev> lol
#3032 [18:47] <Diablothein> No, glass.
#3033 [18:47] <Diablothein> But that's beside the point.
#3034 [18:47] <lemon-rev> lol well theres your trouble
#3035 [18:47] <lemon-rev> lol
#3036 [18:47] <lemon-rev> you think
#3037 [18:47] <xales> mib_j3d9cl: then you do not have java properly installed
#3038 [18:48] <lemon-rev> its like trying to grow trees from brick
#3039 [18:48] <Diablothein> You see, I'm trying to grow a giant tree, and I want it to be a solid tree. I'm growing it in layers, starting from the centerpiece, and then layering out.
#3040 [18:48] <mib_j3d9cl> i downloaded the offline version, it wont let me download regular version because "network security options
#3041 [18:48] <lemon-rev> its not going to happen
#3042 [18:48] <Diablothein> BUT! It's impossible to grow saplings right next to one another.
#3043 [18:48] <mib_j3d9cl> cant get it to work, i am the admin
#3044 [18:49] <Diablothein> I've tried growing it on a hillside effect, nothing, now I quit and I'm gonna make it slightly hollow (sadface)
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#3046 [18:49] <mib_j3d9cl> hold on, trying something
#3047 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> Diablothein: stock up on wood, grow the trees distant from each other, and fill in the wood.
#3048 [18:50] <Diablothein> What about leaves? :D
#3049 [18:51] <Scipher> Any admins that can help me with a payment problem?
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#3051 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> Scipher: define 'problem'
#3052 [18:52] <Scipher> Paypal won't accept my card, neither will the minecraft site, but i've bought several games and used multiple sites with the card so far
#3053 [18:52] <Diablothein> Try with PayPal
#3054 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Why won't Paypal accept your card?
#3055 [18:53] <Scipher> I don't know, it just says that it can't use the card and to use another
#3056 [18:53] <Scipher> It's a Visa Debit prepaid
#3057 [18:53] * Diablothein had a blonde moment
#3057 [18:53] <xales> thats the problem
#3058 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Ah. yeah
#3059 [18:53] <xales> they don't work for international purchases
#3060 [18:53] * GreyVulpine nods
#3060 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> It's an issue you're going to have to take up with the card's issuer
#3061 [18:54] <Scipher> Is there any way i could get the money from the card onto paypal, then use my paypal account to pay with it?
#3062 [18:54] <xales> sort of
#3063 [18:54] <xales> you can register a second paypal account
#3064 [18:54] <xales> however, you need a seperate card to do this
#3065 [18:55] <xales> and 'send money' to it
#3066 [18:55] <xales> so that it remains in the paypal account as 'paypal funds'
#3067 [18:55] <xales> then use the 'paypal funds' to make the purchase
#3068 [18:55] <chrawley> Can I have help setting up an SMP server?
#3069 [18:55] <Scipher> I would HAVE to use two cards? I couldnt use the same card for both accounts/
#3070 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> No, you just need a second paypal account
#3071 [18:55] <xales> you need a card
#3072 [18:56] <xales> registered to the account
#3073 [18:56] <xales> to make payments
#3074 [18:56] <xales> your 'spending limit' is $0.00 otherwise
#3075 [18:56] <xales> chrawley: where did you get stuck
#3076 [18:56] <xales> oh, and no, you can't use the same card
#3077 [18:56] <xales> you need 2 separate cards
#3078 [18:56] <Scipher> What if a friend of mine had another prepaid card and paypal account, could we send each other the money
#3079 [18:56] <xales> Scipher: yes, you could
#3080 [18:56] <xales> however it must be MORE (even 1 cent will do) that the cost of minecraft
#3081 [18:56] <barrycarlyon> Scipher: in that case why not just get your friend to buy the account....
#3082 [18:57] <xales> barrycarlyon: his friend also has a prepaid card
#3083 [18:57] <barrycarlyon> Sorry to jump in :-D
#3084 [18:57] <barrycarlyon> O
#3085 [18:57] <xales> lol
#3086 [18:57] <Scipher> because he has a vanilla visa that can't work either
#3087 [18:57] <chrawley> I got stuck setting it up in OSX. The minecraft-server.jar is having "path" problems.
#3088 [18:57] <Scipher> vanilla visa works on paypal right?
#3089 [18:57] <xales> chrawley: what specifically does it say. pastebin
#3090 [18:57] <xales> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com
#3091 [18:57] <xales> Scipher: yes, but not for international purchases
#3092 [18:57] <xales> oh
#3093 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> no, visa prepaids can't
#3094 [18:58] <xales> a visa credit card
#3095 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Regular visa credits.
#3096 [18:58] <xales> as opposed to prepaid?
#3097 [18:58] <Scipher> Me and my friend both have Visa Debit Prepaid cards
#3098 [18:58] <xales> the only way you can do what you want
#3099 [18:58] <xales> is if you both register paypal accounts with the cards
#3100 [18:59] <xales> then 'send money' to one of you
#3101 [18:59] <xales> at least $16
#3102 [18:59] <xales> then that person buys minecraft using the funds
#3103 [18:59] <xales> after that, they send $16 to the other person
#3104 [18:59] <xales> who then buys minecraft
#3105 [18:59] <xales> that is the only solution; the steps must be in that order or it will not work
#3106 [18:59] <chrawley> The Java JAR file "minecraft-server.jar" could not launched. "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from /Users/Chris/Desktop/Minecraft SMP/minecraft-server.jar"
#3107 [19:00] <xales> how are you running it?
#3108 [19:00] <chrawley> I'm just double-clicking it.
#3109 [19:00] <xales> that probably won't work
#3110 [19:00] <xales> you have to launch it with 'java -jar minecraft-server.jar'
#3111 [19:01] <Diablothein> He's on Mac.
#3112 [19:01] <xales> also, are you trying to run a classic server or beta server
#3113 [19:01] <xales> Diablothein: so?
#3114 [19:01] <chrawley> Well yeah, I figured that. So I used applescript.
#3115 [19:01] <xales> using applescript probably won't work
#3116 [19:01] <Diablothein> Mac does NOT equal Linux.
#3117 [19:01] <xales> just do it in terminal
#3118 [19:01] <xales> Diablothein: no, but that command works
#3119 [19:01] <xales> the java binary is the same
#3120 [19:01] <chrawley> Do what in terminal?
#3121 [19:01] <xales> chrawley: run java -jar (serverjarfile)
#3122 [19:02] <xales> also, are you trying to run a classic server or beta server
#3123 [19:02] <chrawley> beta server
#3124 [19:02] <xales> did you extract the file from a zip when you downloaded it?
#3125 [19:02] <mib_j3d9cl> fixed java!
#3126 [19:02] <mib_j3d9cl> new problem
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#3128 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> Diablothein: Mac may != Linux, but Linux == POSIX && MAcOS == POSIX
#3129 [19:02] <chrawley> yes, I extracted.
#3130 [19:03] <xales> wrong server then
#3131 [19:03] <xales> thats classic server
#3132 [19:03] <xales> !server
#3133 [19:03] <xales> mib_j3d9cl: what is the problem
#3134 [19:03] <mib_j3d9cl> i have win 7 when i click to play browser it tells me windows has blocked this software because it cant verify the publisher
#3135 [19:03] <mib_j3d9cl> wont let me play!
#3136 [19:03] <xales> did you click unblock?
#3137 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> Stop using IE ans start using a real browser.
#3138 [19:04] <mib_j3d9cl> how do i override
#3139 [19:04] <mib_j3d9cl> yes
#3140 [19:04] <xales> are you using internet explorer?
#3141 [19:04] <mib_j3d9cl> yes
#3142 [19:04] <xales> don't
#3143 [19:04] <xales> it wont work in internet explorer
#3144 [19:04] <mib_j3d9cl> ohhh
#3145 [19:04] <xales> nothing does ._.
#3146 [19:04] <mib_j3d9cl> how bout firefox
#3147 [19:04] <xales> internet explorer is a piece of shit
#3148 [19:04] <xales> it will work fine in firefox
#3149 [19:04] <mib_j3d9cl> yeah
#3150 [19:04] <xales> or you can download it
#3151 [19:04] <xales> ._.
#3152 [19:04] <xales> !client
#3153 [19:05] <mib_j3d9cl> cant download without playng once online
#3154 [19:05] <xales> no
#3155 [19:05] <mib_j3d9cl> is that correct
#3156 [19:05] <xales> you download that then login
#3157 [19:05] <xales> thats playing online
#3158 [19:05] <chrawley> Well that's fixed. Now I'm just not connecting to it....
#3159 [19:05] <mib_j3d9cl> it wont let me, tells me i have to play inbrowser
#3160 [19:05] <xales> chrawley: what IP are you using
#3161 [19:05] <xales> mib_j3d9cl: did you buy the game?
#3162 [19:06] <mib_j3d9cl> yes
#3163 [19:06] <xales> then you can play by downloading it and logging in to it
#3164 [19:06] <mib_j3d9cl> it was a code, xmas gift
#3165 [19:06] <chrawley> 192.168.1.101.
#3166 [19:06] <mib_j3d9cl> ill try
#3167 [19:06] <xales> chrawley: do you have a . on the end when you type it into minecraft?
#3168 [19:06] <chrawley> Yes
#3169 [19:06] <mib_j3d9cl> it did that on other comp, played inbrowser and worked fine
#3170 [19:06] <xales> it shouldn't be there
#3171 [19:06] <Diablothein> there's your problem.
#3172 [19:07] <chrawley> Shit. Freaking typo. Thanks a lot guys!
#3173 [19:07] <mib_j3d9cl> dont know why
#3174 [19:07] <xales> mib_j3d9cl: what EXACTLY did it say
#3175 [19:07] <xales> because there isn't an error 'you must play in the browser'
#3176 [19:08] <mib_j3d9cl> it syas you must play online once to play offline
#3177 [19:08] <mib_j3d9cl> im doing the .exe
#3178 [19:08] <xales> did you click the play offline button in the exe?
#3179 [19:08] <mib_j3d9cl> doesnt let me
#3180 [19:08] <xales> did you try to log in?
#3181 [19:08] <xales> ._.
#3182 [19:09] <mib_j3d9cl> yes thats when it tells me this
#3183 [19:09] <xales> are you sure you logged in correctly?
#3184 [19:09] <xales> it only says that if your login failed
#3185 [19:09] <mib_j3d9cl> yes
#3186 [19:09] <xales> whatever
#3187 [19:09] <xales> if you can play in the browser fine
#3188 [19:09] <mib_j3d9cl> did it with other comp
#3189 [19:09] <chrawley> Okay, well one last problem. I'm not connecting. It just says "connecting" and it's taking forever.
#3190 [19:09] <mib_j3d9cl> same problem
#3191 [19:10] <mib_j3d9cl> and played browser then downloaded and worked
#3192 [19:10] <xales> chrawley: is the server running?
#3193 [19:10] <chrawley> Yeah, the other computer is running right next to me.
#3194 [19:10] <xales> is it running a firewall of any sort?
#3195 [19:10] <chrawley> Well... It's given me a warning that there's not enough RAM.
#3196 [19:11] <xales> how much ram does the computer have
#3197 [19:11] <chrawley> It has 4 gigs.
#3198 [19:11] <xales> close the server and start it like this
#3199 [19:11] <chrawley> And now the operation timed out.
#3200 [19:11] <xales> "java -Xms1024 -Xmx1024 -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#3201 [19:11] <xales> err no
#3202 [19:11] <xales> not that
#3203 [19:11] <xales> "java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#3204 [19:11] <xales> that
#3205 [19:11] <chrawley> Okay, well how do I relaunch it as that?
#3206 [19:12] <xales> what do you mean relaunch it?
#3207 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> heh, MC would run great with 1024 bytes of space :)
#3208 [19:12] <xales> close the server
#3209 [19:12] <xales> open terminal
#3210 [19:12] <xales> go to the folder that minecraft_server.jar is in
#3211 [19:12] <xales> and enter that
#3212 [19:12] <xales> ._.
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#3214 [19:14] <chrawley> Hold on, I have terminal open and I have the folder opened that has minecraft_server.jar (outside of terminal). Do I just run the code you gave me?
#3215 [19:14] <xales> no
#3216 [19:14] <xales> you open the folder in terminal
#3217 [19:14] <xales> IE, with cd command
#3218 [19:15] <chrawley> Okay, what's the code for the cd command. I know absolutely nothing about coding (obviously).
#3219 [19:15] <chrawley> oh
#3220 [19:15] <chrawley> nevermind
#3221 [19:16] <xales> ?
#3222 [19:16] <mib_j3d9cl> does minecraft work on opera?
#3223 [19:16] <xales> it should
#3224 [19:17] <mib_j3d9cl> cool, damn firefox download got corrupted
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#3226 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft works in any Java-supporting browser.
#3227 [19:18] <xales> except internet exploder
#3228 [19:18] <xales> ._.
#3229 [19:18] * DopeGhoti points to the phrase 'Java-supporting' ;)
#3229 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> IE is more.. Java-tolerating, at best.
#3230 [19:19] <xales> ;)
#3231 [19:19] <xales> http://xkcd.com/838/
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#3234 [19:20] <atom138> !list
#3235 [19:20] <xales> ?
#3236 [19:21] <chrawley> Okay so I have the server running like you said. There aren't any warnings but the operation timed out again. Is that a bandwidth issue?
#3237 [19:21] <mib_j3d9cl> how about this one
#3238 [19:21] <xales> chrawley: are you using the right IP?
#3239 [19:21] <mib_j3d9cl> ie works but firefox or opera wont connect ti interne
#3240 [19:21] <xales> and is the server or you running a firewall
#3241 [19:21] <chrawley> Yes. I'm retrying it without the port
#3242 [19:22] <xales> yes to firewall?
#3243 [19:22] <chrawley> Not that I know of.
#3244 [19:22] <xales> mib_j3d9cl: I have no idea why, and it isn't something I can really diagnose over the internet
#3245 [19:22] <chrawley> I meant yes to right IP. I don't know of it running a firewal.
#3246 [19:22] <chrawley> firewall*
#3247 [19:22] <xales> what is the IP of your computer
#3248 [19:22] <xales> and what is the IP of the server
#3249 [19:22] <xales> local IP
#3250 [19:23] <chrawley> 192.168.1.101
#3251 [19:23] <Jakob> Do you know how to find the ip?
#3252 [19:23] <Jakob> ahh
#3253 [19:23] <Jakob> yes
#3254 [19:23] <chrawley> Standard default port.
#3255 [19:24] <xales> chrawley: is the server running on the same computer you are trying to play from?
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#3257 [19:25] <chrawley> Hold on a second.
#3258 [19:26] <chrawley> Yeah. I was entering the wrong IP address. Thanks a lot guys.
#3259 [19:26] <xales> yw
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#3261 [19:27] <[twisti]> is it normal that a server with 3-4 people can take 50-80% cpu time on a modern pc ?
#3262 [19:29] <Kealper> as much as i'd hate to say no; yes.
#3263 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> only with the recent releases
#3264 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> looks related to leaf decay
#3265 [19:29] <Kealper> hate to say yes** tired -.-
#3266 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> prior to beta, I have 15 peiple on my server with only ~15% CPU load
#3267 [19:30] <Kealper> leaf decay is fixed, runs the same as Alpha on my server again
#3268 [19:30] <Kealper> but it's resource use as a whole has been growing steadily
#3269 [19:31] <xales> so kealper
#3270 [19:31] <xales> my bot is now cooler than yours
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#3272 [19:31] <xales> .haspaid kealper
#3273 [19:31] <xalesbot> kealper has paid for Minecraft!
#3274 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: CPU load spiked at the same time as the leaf decay "fix" release
#3275 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> I know correlation != causation, but still..
#3276 [19:31] <Kealper> !paid kealper
#3277 [19:31] <Kealper> damn my is so slow with that fucking minecraft server running on it now
#3278 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> !check localhost
#3279 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> :)
#3280 [19:32] <Kealper> and why is aubot opped again -.-
#3281 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> magic?
#3282 [19:32] * [Husky]Shnaw [[Husky]Shnaw@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3283 [19:32] <[twisti]> how does that work
#3284 [19:32] <[twisti]> !paid [twisti]
#3285 [19:32] <barrycarlyon> DopeGhoti: you saying irc.esper.org runs a server or the host that AuBot is on does?
#3286 [19:32] <[twisti]> thats a filthy lie
#3287 [19:32] <barrycarlyon> !paid barrycarlyon
#3288 [19:32] <barrycarlyon> Yay!
#3289 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> barrycarlyon: the latter.
#3290 [19:32] <Kealper> your account name, we just use the same usernames ingame as in irc
#3291 [19:33] <NinjaKirby> Wait wat, how did that make that connection
#3292 [19:33] <barrycarlyon> DopeGhoti: I realise my question was stupid now...facepalm.
#3293 [19:33] <[twisti]> Kealper: i figured
#3294 [19:33] <[twisti]> !paid Toadee
#3295 [19:33] <NinjaKirby> Ah, derp
#3296 [19:33] <Jakob> !paid Relur
#3297 [19:33] <[twisti]> :)
#3298 [19:33] <Jakob> !Paid Relurk
#3299 [19:33] <barrycarlyon> herpa derp.
#3300 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> "There are no stupid questions..."
#3301 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> !paid Notch :)
#3302 [19:33] <Jakob> lol
#3303 [19:33] <Jakob> !pait Notch
#3304 [19:33] <Jakob> fail
#3305 [19:33] <Kealper> !paid Herobrine
#3306 [19:33] <Jakob> :D
#3307 [19:33] <Diablothein> Precoded response.
#3308 [19:33] <Kealper> this.
#3309 [19:33] <Kealper> lol
#3310 [19:33] <atom138> !paid atom138
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#3312 [19:34] <atom138> weee
#3313 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> !paid AuBot
#3314 [19:34] <Diablothein> !paid Chuck Norris
#3315 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#3316 [19:34] <Diablothein> XD
#3317 [19:34] <Diablothein> No response :D
#3318 [19:34] <Jakob> lol
#3319 [19:34] <Kealper> spam control
#3320 [19:34] <Jakob> nice
#3321 [19:34] <Kealper> you did it too fast
#3322 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> "Minecraft has paid for Chuck Norris!"
#3323 [19:34] <Kealper> i need to do that
#3324 [19:34] <Jakob> lmao
#3325 [19:34] <Kealper> lol
#3326 [19:34] <Jakob> what language is this bot in?
#3327 [19:34] <Jakob> msl?
#3328 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> AutoIt
#3329 [19:35] <Kealper> AuBot is AutoIt
#3330 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> (see? Lowercase T!)
#3331 [19:35] <xales> what is msl
#3332 [19:35] <xales> ._.
#3333 [19:35] <Jakob> What is AutoIt?
#3334 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> lmgtfy.com?q=autoit
#3335 [19:35] <Kealper> like VB on interpreted crack
#3336 [19:35] <atom138> its a scripting program
#3337 [19:35] <Jakob> oh
#3338 [19:35] <Jakob> lol
#3339 [19:35] <Jakob> cool
#3340 [19:35] <atom138> I used to use it for crafting in star wars galaxies haha
#3341 [19:35] <Jakob> lolol
#3342 [19:35] <xales> once again
#3343 [19:36] <xales> what is msl, jakob
#3344 [19:36] <Jakob> mIRC
#3345 [19:36] <Jakob> I have made a few advanced mIRC bots
#3346 [19:36] <Kealper> mIRC Scripting Language
#3347 [19:36] <Jakob> they had registration and login systems and stuff
#3348 [19:36] <Jakob> It was pretty cool
#3349 [19:36] <Diablothein> XChat > mIRC
#3350 [19:36] <Jakob> Diablothein
#3351 [19:36] <Jakob> yes for sure
#3352 [19:36] <Jakob> but msl > perl
#3353 [19:36] <Jakob> for a bot that is
#3354 [19:36] <atom138> Ive used mIRC for like 12 years. I cant abandon it
#3355 [19:37] <Diablothein> Ah, but with perl, you can give something a soul
#3356 [19:37] <Jakob> haha
#3357 [19:37] <xales> hahahaha
#3358 [19:37] <Jakob> What do you mean?
#3359 [19:37] <Jakob> lol
#3360 [19:37] <xales> I don't use mirc
#3361 [19:37] <chrawley> How do I start a new world that's not shitty?
#3362 [19:37] <Kealper> i've seen entire irc service bots (nickserv, chanserv, etc) done in Perl
#3363 [19:37] <Jakob> oh also
#3364 [19:37] <Coll> cause coding and computers totally have a soul
#3365 [19:37] <xales> mirc's properitary language is stupid
#3366 [19:37] <Jakob> I have made artificial intelligence bots in msl
#3367 [19:37] <xales> .listadmins
#3368 [19:37] <xalesbot> "Xales" - %S+!xales@darksigns.net - +zo
#3369 [19:37] <xales> :P
#3370 [19:37] <Kealper> used to run perl service bots on the last network i was oper for
#3371 [19:37] <Kealper> worked quite nice O.o
#3372 [19:37] <Diablothein> oh...
#3373 [19:37] <Diablothein> wait.
#3374 [19:37] <Diablothein> Not perl.
#3375 [19:37] <Diablothein> It's Python.
#3376 [19:38] <Jakob> um
#3377 [19:38] <Kealper> xchat supports both python and perl
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#3379 [19:38] <Jakob> yeah
#3380 [19:38] <Kealper> and python is the devil
#3381 [19:38] <Jakob> I am oper on one network lol
#3382 [19:38] <Diablothein> http://xkcd.com/413/
#3383 [19:38] <Jakob> I used to have like 4 o:lines
#3384 [19:38] <Jakob> but only one now
#3385 [19:38] <Kealper> D-E-V-I-L
#3386 [19:38] <Jakob> I am only on two networks
#3387 [19:39] <Jakob> and I host a server for the other network
#3388 [19:39] <Diablothein> import religion.
#3389 [19:39] <Jakob> hmm
#3390 [19:39] <chrawley> How do I start a new world using Minecraft server? I want a less shittier one if possible.
#3391 [19:39] <Kealper> >makes joke about spacing in religion being inconsistent, and should use either tabs or spaces, not both
#3392 [19:39] <Jakob> a new world?
#3393 [19:39] <Jakob> In the server.properties
#3394 [19:39] <chrawley> Yes.
#3395 [19:39] <Diablothein> chrawley, delete the world folder.
#3396 [19:39] <Jakob> change the level= to a new name
#3397 [19:40] <Jakob> perhaps world2
#3398 [19:40] <Jakob> and it will create a new folder
#3399 [19:40] <Jakob> and you will still have your original world :P
#3400 [19:40] <chrawley> Okay, where would I find the world folder?
#3401 [19:40] <Jakob> in the same directory the server.properties is in
#3402 [19:40] <[twisti]> chrawley: my tip: play single player, make worlds there and delete them until you find one you like. then copy the world folder over to your server
#3403 [19:40] <Jakob> mm
#3404 [19:41] <Jakob> Single player worlds are a different format
#3405 [19:41] <Jakob> chrawley http://www.redzero.net/grabs/64c74c01.png
#3406 [19:41] <Jakob> the folders at the top
#3407 [19:41] <mib_j3d9cl> opera isnt working either
#3408 [19:41] <Jakob> are worlds I have create
#3409 [19:41] <Jakob> created
#3410 [19:42] <mib_j3d9cl> it seems that only ie is working
#3411 [19:42] <Jakob> by changing the name in the server.properties
#3412 [19:42] <Jakob> see look
#3413 [19:42] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/caef4e58.png
#3414 [19:43] <xales> Jakob: same format for single player worlds actually
#3415 [19:43] <Jakob> telling it to use the RedZero folder you saw in the first screenshot
#3416 [19:43] <Jakob> oh really?
#3417 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3418 [19:43] <Jakob> I didn't know that
#3419 [19:43] <Jakob> col
#3420 [19:43] <Jakob> cool
#3421 [19:43] <Jakob> oh
#3422 [19:43] <Jakob> does anyone know how to generate a flat world?
#3423 [19:43] <Jakob> just grass?
#3424 [19:43] <Jakob> like freebuild servers on classic
#3425 [19:43] <[twisti]> Jakob: any map editor should be able to do that
#3426 [19:43] <xales> no way
#3427 [19:43] <xales> a map editor maybe
#3428 [19:43] <Jakob> I want to set up a sort of free build server, but in beta. Cause beta is just full win.
#3429 [19:44] <xales> but no way to use the game generator
#3430 [19:44] <Jakob> I have tried omen
#3431 [19:44] <xales> try mcedit
#3432 [19:44] <Jakob> mcedit?
#3433 [19:44] <[twisti]> but you cant make an 'expanding' flat map
#3434 [19:44] <Jakob> I think I got that actually
#3435 [19:44] <[twisti]> yeah mcedit is awesome
#3436 [19:44] <Jakob> let me check
#3437 [19:44] <[twisti]> omen is a piece of crap imo
#3438 [19:44] <Jakob> Does it work with multiplayer levels?
#3439 [19:44] <[twisti]> yes
#3440 [19:44] <Jakob> I agree
#3441 [19:44] <[twisti]> mcedit is far from perfect but light years ahead of omen
#3442 [19:44] <[twisti]> too bad its discontinued
#3443 [19:45] <Jakob> oh I got mcmapper.. that failed. All it does is generates dungeons lol
#3444 [19:45] <Diablothein> have you tried mchammer?
#3445 [19:45] <Jakob> I haven;t.
#3446 [19:45] <Jakob> I haven't.
#3447 [19:45] <Jakob> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522 <-- Does this look right?
#3448 [19:46] <mib_j3d9cl> i am selecting the second site for the download of windows minecraft, when i log in it tells me i have to play online atleast once
#3449 [19:46] <mib_j3d9cl> is there a way to bypass it?
#3450 [19:46] <Jakob> Ummm
#3451 [19:46] <[twisti]> mib_j3d9cl: why bypass it ? just play online once
#3452 [19:46] <Diablothein> Yeah, by playing online at least once.
#3453 [19:46] <Jakob> lol
#3454 [19:46] <[twisti]> Jakob: that seems right
#3455 [19:47] <mib_j3d9cl> cant, i have ie, windows 7 wont allow the program in, even if i alow it
#3456 [19:47] <Jakob> I am getting the 64bit one for windows 7
#3457 [19:47] <mib_j3d9cl> dont get windows!
#3458 [19:47] <Jakob> what?
#3459 [19:47] <mib_j3d9cl> get ubuntu its free
#3460 [19:47] <mib_j3d9cl> linux
#3461 [19:47] <Jakob> meh
#3462 [19:48] <Jakob> I have windows 7 ultimate
#3463 [19:48] <Diablothein> mib, it takes too long to learn Linux.
#3464 [19:48] <mib_j3d9cl> linux cant get viruses
#3465 [19:48] <mib_j3d9cl> very hard
#3466 [19:48] <Diablothein> It can.
#3467 [19:48] <Diablothein> But you have to be a complete imbecile to pull that off.
#3468 [19:48] <mib_j3d9cl> ubuntu is a friendlier virsion of linux
#3469 [19:48] <Kealper> see: run everything as root
#3470 [19:48] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/cca6fc51.png
#3471 [19:48] <mib_j3d9cl> yeah
#3472 [19:48] <[twisti]> actually, if you follow security trackers, linux has more exploits/year than windows these days
#3473 [19:48] <mib_j3d9cl> ha
#3474 [19:49] <mib_j3d9cl> or "ultimatepornsite.com"
#3475 [19:49] <mib_j3d9cl> click allow
#3476 [19:49] <mib_j3d9cl> DONT DO THAT
#3477 [19:49] <Jakob> lol
#3478 [19:49] <mib_j3d9cl> just a joke
#3479 [19:49] <Kealper> windows 7 actually is up to par with kernel security...but the ratio of stupid to smart users is much higher
#3480 [19:49] <mib_j3d9cl> for those who dont know
#3481 [19:49] <Jakob> on.nimp.org <-- dont go to it .. works on linux
#3482 [19:49] <Diablothein> Actually, if you follow how many imbeciles switch to Linux and let everything install, yeah... those don't count.
#3483 [19:50] <Jakob> *.on.nimp.org/*
#3484 [19:50] <Kealper> see: Ubuntu
#3485 [19:50] <Jakob> I have multiple servers
#3486 [19:50] <Jakob> I have two debian servers
#3487 [19:50] <Jakob> and I am going to get a windows VPS soon
#3488 [19:50] <mib_j3d9cl> well atleast its free, they wont spen hundreds of dollars to get a new windows os
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#3490 [19:51] <[twisti]> Diablothein: how do people who install everything cause exploits ?
#3491 [19:51] <Jakob> o.o
#3492 [19:51] <Diablothein> It's not the exploits, it's that they're imbeciles who let everything install on their computer without finding out WHAT it is.
#3493 [19:51] <mib_j3d9cl> its fun to take an old computer and run a root on linux and watch it eat itself
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#3495 [19:52] <Jakob> wtf
#3496 [19:52] <Jakob> okay I installed mcedit
#3497 [19:52] <Jakob> but I don't see it anywhere
#3498 [19:52] <mib_j3d9cl> if people just view the source code of some thing theyll find out if it has a virus!
#3499 [19:52] <mib_j3d9cl> did that to spam once
#3500 [19:52] <[twisti]> Diablothein: i dont think security trackers list "people who install everything" as exploits
#3501 [19:52] <mib_j3d9cl> there was a loop*10000000
#3502 [19:52] <mib_j3d9cl> would of destroyed me
#3503 [19:53] <[twisti]> that sounds doubtful at best
#3504 [19:53] <Jakob> anyone know how I run mcedit?
#3505 [19:53] <Diablothein> are you an imbecile? The ONLY reason those events occur is because of people who install everything that pops up.
#3506 [19:53] <[twisti]> would have most likely just froze your email client
#3507 [19:53] <mib_j3d9cl> still be bad
#3508 [19:53] <[twisti]> Diablothein: what events ? im talking about security trackers here. they track bugs and exploits and security holes in software. whether people install the software or not doesnt affect their exploit count
#3509 [19:53] <mib_j3d9cl> fun though
#3510 [19:54] * Diablothein sighs
#3510 [19:54] <xales> [twisti]: there may be exploits, but there are quite many of them in windows that aren't fixed or publicly known. also, they tend to be worse. you still have to be an idiot to have your system compromised by an exploit
#3511 [19:54] <Diablothein> I've not the time nor the patience to explain.
#3512 [19:54] <mib_j3d9cl> lets talk pings
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#3514 [19:54] <Xaviergmail> wtf my minecraft client just closed itself
#3515 [19:54] <Jakob> anyone????
#3516 [19:54] <mib_j3d9cl> my highest peing for a game was 900
#3517 [19:54] <Jakob> [5:53:13p] <Jakob> anyone know how I run mcedit?
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#3519 [19:55] <[twisti]> Diablothein: that was a complicated way of saying "youre right but im too ashamed to admit it"
#3520 [19:55] <xales> Jakob: start menu?
#3521 [19:55] <Kealper> Jakob: sorry if i sound like a douche right now, but type !motd
#3522 [19:55] <Diablothein> Nope
#3523 [19:55] <Jakob> !motd
#3524 [19:55] <Jakob> lol..
#3525 [19:55] <xales> !motd
#3526 [19:55] <xales> oh that
#3527 [19:55] <xales> :P
#3528 [19:55] <Jakob> You guys just told me to install it
#3529 [19:55] <Diablothein> It's that I've been sick, am busy, and don't have the patience to explain myself.
#3530 [19:55] <[twisti]> xales: id like some actual evidence regarding those supposedly worse and many exploits in windows
#3531 [19:55] <Jakob> and now you are saying no talk about third party software
#3532 [19:55] <Jakob> alright :P
#3533 [19:56] <xales> [twisti]: google zero day exploit?
#3534 [19:56] <Jakob> what is that?
#3535 [19:56] <[twisti]> xales: zero day exploits are not included on security trackers in your world ?
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#3537 [19:56] <xales> [twisti]: most windows exploits are, because its not exactly open source where many people can pour over it to find issues
#3538 [19:57] <Kealper> Jakob: ask whoever told you to install mcedit in private about using it, sorry, but those are the rules :/
#3539 [19:57] <Jakob> It's fine. :P
#3540 [19:57] <Jakob> You are an op
#3541 [19:57] <Jakob> I respect that
#3542 [19:57] <xales> he may be an op
#3543 [19:57] <Jakob> I would do the same on my network
#3544 [19:57] <xales> but im voiced
#3545 [19:57] <[twisti]> xales: you have to make up your mind. either exploits are known or not. if i can google them, they are known, and are included on security trackers. if they are not known, they are nothing more than your speculation based on years of calling windows insecure
#3546 [19:57] <xales> and + is cooler than @
#3547 [19:57] <Jakob> lol
#3548 [19:57] <Kealper> lol
#3549 [19:58] <Jakob> well
#3550 [19:58] <Jakob> I am ~ on a network that has over 100 users in the main chan
#3551 [19:58] <Jakob> lol this chan has 146
#3552 [19:58] <Diablothein> You can google anything, so, that doesn't count.
#3553 [19:58] <Brock> cool story bro
#3554 [19:58] <Jakob> +q > +o < +v
#3555 [19:58] <Jakob> +v = win
#3556 [19:58] <Brock> Does anyone know why whenever I connect to my mc server after about 2 minutes my internet crashes?
#3557 [19:58] <Jakob> huh xales
#3558 [19:59] <Brock> I'm hosting the server on my CENTOS vps
#3559 [19:59] <Jakob> cool
#3560 [19:59] <Jakob> Debian is better
#3561 [19:59] <Brock> nah.
#3562 [19:59] <xales> Brock: can you connect to other servers?
#3563 [19:59] <Brock> yep
#3564 [19:59] <xales> centos os out of date by what
#3565 [19:59] <Kealper> i rage at centos
#3566 [19:59] <Brock> i can connect to mine to
#3567 [19:59] <xales> 8 years
#3568 [19:59] <xales> ._.
#3569 [19:59] <Brock> and i sit in there for 2 minutes
#3570 [19:59] <Jakob> actually
#3571 [19:59] <Brock> everything is fine
#3572 [19:59] <Jakob> xen is awesome
#3573 [19:59] <Brock> and BAM
#3574 [19:59] <xales> Brock: does it happen with other servers
#3575 [19:59] <Brock> server crashes
#3576 [19:59] <Brock> nope
#3577 [19:59] <mib_j3d9cl> windows has blocked this software because it cant verify the publisher - anybody know how to bypass
#3578 [19:59] <xales> do you have mods installed
#3579 [19:59] <Brock> nope
#3580 [19:59] <xales> mib_j3d9cl: as i said. do not use internet explorer
#3581 [19:59] <Brock> fresh install
#3582 [19:59] <Jakob> hmm
#3583 [19:59] <Jakob> nope
#3584 [19:59] <[twisti]> mib_j3d9cl: use firefox
#3585 [20:00] <mib_j3d9cl> ive tried firefox and opera but they wont connect to internet
#3586 [20:00] <mib_j3d9cl> its weird
#3587 [20:00] <Brock> lol..
#3588 [20:00] <Brock> l2firewawl.
#3589 [20:00] <Kealper> http://getfirefox.com http://chrome.google.com http://opera.com
#3590 [20:00] <[twisti]> i doubt its a firewall issue
#3591 [20:00] <mib_j3d9cl> does chrome work?
#3592 [20:00] <[twisti]> most likely he has some proxy settings in ie
#3593 [20:00] <Kealper> anything is better than IE
#3594 [20:01] <mib_j3d9cl> thnx
#3595 [20:01] <xales> firefox would default to system proxy settings
#3596 [20:01] <xales> so thats not it
#3597 [20:01] <Jakob> lol
#3598 [20:01] * LG_Legacy [LG_Legacy@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3599 [20:01] * Kealper hides
#3599 [20:01] * xales hides behind Kealper
#3599 [20:01] <mib_j3d9cl> ive changes the proxy settingdson firefox but still doesnt work
#3600 [20:01] <[twisti]> jakob, what was your problem with mcedit ?
#3601 [20:01] <Kealper> mi.charter.com? lg is from michigan aswell? wtf
#3602 [20:02] <mib_j3d9cl> downloading chrome now
#3603 [20:02] <Jakob> Nothing anymore
#3604 [20:02] <xales> mib_j3d9cl: do you have a firewall?
#3605 [20:02] <Kealper> holy crap lg is just a stone's-throw away from my house lol
#3606 [20:02] <Jakob> other than I don't really know how it works
#3607 [20:02] <mib_j3d9cl> yes, but i turned it off
#3608 [20:03] <Jakob> so
#3609 [20:03] <Jakob> if I temp. run a server from my houes
#3610 [20:03] <Jakob> and forward the port..
#3611 [20:03] <mib_j3d9cl> how would a different internet browser affect windows decision to block minecraft
#3612 [20:03] <Jakob> Will people be able to connect
#3613 [20:03] <Jakob> ?
#3614 [20:04] <xales> mib_j3d9cl: internet explorer is blocking it, not windows
#3615 [20:04] <Jakob> My cousin tried yesterday and couldnt.
#3616 [20:04] <xales> Jakob: should be able to
#3617 [20:04] <mib_j3d9cl> ok
#3618 [20:04] <xales> make sure your not having it try to bind your external IP
#3619 [20:04] <xales> because that would be bad
#3620 [20:04] <Jakob> what do you mean?
#3621 [20:04] <xales> as its behind NAT i'm assuming
#3622 [20:04] <Jakob> O_O
#3623 [20:04] <xales> Jakob: make sure there isn't an ip specified in server.properties
#3624 [20:04] <Jakob> I don't really know what that means....
#3625 [20:04] <Jakob> yeah there isnt
#3626 [20:04] <xales> lol
#3627 [20:04] <xales> err
#3628 [20:04] <Jakob> server_ip=
#3629 [20:04] <Jakob> and server_port=
#3630 [20:05] <xales> forwarding 25565 TCP to the correct IP?
#3631 [20:05] <Jakob> I left them Blank i believe
#3632 [20:05] <Jakob> I am forwarding it to my computers ip
#3633 [20:05] <Brock> if I'm hosting my server on a VPS, it still shouldn't have any ips bound, right?
#3634 [20:05] <Jakob> 192.168.1.100
#3635 [20:05] <Jakob> I think
#3636 [20:05] <xales> Brock: what?
#3637 [20:05] <Kealper> right Brock
#3638 [20:05] <Brock> ehh. k
#3639 [20:05] <xales> oh
#3640 [20:05] <Kealper> no ip means binds on all available addresses
#3641 [20:05] <Brock> then why is my damn internet crashing loool
#3642 [20:05] <rev-lemon> wtf i just found a skeliton riding a spider is that one of the exta things that beta had lol
#3643 [20:05] <xales> it doesnt matter on a dedicated/vps kealper
#3644 [20:05] <mib_j3d9cl> how is fallout 3 and black ops
#3645 [20:06] <Jakob> rev-lemon It's a spider jockey
#3646 [20:06] <xales> rev-lemon: no, thta been around
#3647 [20:06] <Jakob> that is so rare
#3648 [20:06] <rev-lemon> lol
#3649 [20:06] <Jakob> I've never seen it..
#3650 [20:06] <rev-lemon> it looked soo funny
#3651 [20:06] <xales> I saw one in my first world on my first night and never after that
#3652 [20:06] <xales> ._.
#3653 [20:06] <[twisti]> Jakob: so you solved your mcedit problem thingy ?
#3654 [20:06] <xales> oh and it killed me. first death
#3655 [20:06] <xales> ._.
#3656 [20:06] <[twisti]> sorry kind of busy, keep having to leave
#3657 [20:07] <Jakob> [twisti] yeah I got it lol but i don't know how to use it really
#3658 [20:07] <[twisti]> it takes a while to understand it, there should be a readme that lists all the keys
#3659 [20:07] <Jakob> yeah
#3660 [20:08] <Jakob> I am working on making a flat world
#3661 [20:08] <mib_j3d9cl> chrome isnt working either
#3662 [20:08] <xales> mib_j3d9cl: how do you connect to the internet
#3663 [20:08] <mib_j3d9cl> error 10(err_access_denied)
#3664 [20:09] <Jakob> and if I am correct I can replace a multiplayer world with this?
#3665 [20:09] <Jakob> and it will work?
#3666 [20:09] <xales> yes
#3667 [20:09] <mib_j3d9cl> wireless mifi card
#3668 [20:09] <Jakob> cool
#3669 [20:09] <xales> multiplayer and singleplayer worlds are the same format
#3670 [20:09] <xales> mib_j3d9cl: then you need to follow their instructions to set up other browsers to play
#3671 [20:10] <Jakob> oh another question
#3672 [20:10] <mib_j3d9cl> how do i do that?
#3673 [20:10] <Jakob> How do I make it so they can play on my server through the browser?
#3674 [20:10] <Jakob> the external url it gave me won't connect
#3675 [20:10] <mib_j3d9cl> my bad, chrome wont connect to internet
#3676 [20:10] <mib_j3d9cl> only ie
#3677 [20:10] <mib_j3d9cl> is it a virus
#3678 [20:10] <Jakob> is what a virus?
#3679 [20:11] <mib_j3d9cl> it keeps telling me i have to do a system restore because of a badd disk
#3680 [20:11] <Jakob> o.o
#3681 [20:11] <mib_j3d9cl> dont know how to fix these browsers
#3682 [20:11] <xales> do you have antivirus installed?
#3683 [20:11] <Jakob> lol
#3684 [20:11] <xales> ._.
#3685 [20:11] <Jakob> antivirus's just slow down your computer
#3686 [20:12] <Kealper> -____-
#3687 [20:12] <Jakob> I use avast though
#3688 [20:12] <xales> Jakob: indeed, but many users need them because they can't figure out how to not get viruses
#3689 [20:12] <xales> ._.
#3690 [20:12] <mib_j3d9cl> my comp is screwd up, wont let me install any antivirus
#3691 [20:12] <Jakob> xales
#3692 [20:12] <Jakob> yeah
#3693 [20:12] <Jakob> lol
#3694 [20:12] <mib_j3d9cl> onlywindows defender
#3695 [20:12] <xales> mib_j3d9cl: then you probably have a virus
#3696 [20:12] <xales> ._.
#3697 [20:12] <xales> rootkit even, if its not letting you install stuff
#3698 [20:12] <[twisti]> is cartographer broken for the beta ?
#3699 [20:12] <mib_j3d9cl> cool, new project
#3700 [20:12] <Kealper> mib_j3d9cl: ever reinstalled windows before? lol
#3701 [20:13] <Jakob> [6:10:14p] <Jakob> How do I make it so they can play on my server through the browser?
#3702 [20:13] <Jakob> [6:10:26p] <Jakob> the external url it gave me won't connect
#3703 [20:13] <xales> uh
#3704 [20:13] <xales> it gave you an external url?
#3705 [20:13] <xales> where
#3706 [20:13] <Jakob> externalurl.txt
#3707 [20:13] <Kealper> CLASSICCCCCCCCCCCC
#3708 [20:13] <xales> in externalurl.txt?
#3709 [20:13] <Jakob> yeah
#3710 [20:13] <xales> then its a classic server
#3711 [20:13] <mib_j3d9cl> no, im going to find the virus and paly around with it
#3712 [20:13] <Jakob> oh
#3713 [20:13] <Jakob> well..
#3714 [20:13] <xales> mib_j3d9cl: have fun with that
#3715 [20:13] <Kealper> mib_j3d9cl: that's a good way to step even deeper into the pile of crap you are already in -.-
#3716 [20:13] <Jakob> I'm not using the minecraft_server.jar or whatever it is
#3717 [20:13] <Jakob> I download a .exe and just put one in the folder
#3718 [20:14] <mib_j3d9cl> im running spy bot, very powerful
#3719 [20:14] <Jakob> and it works fine for me
#3720 [20:14] <Jakob> mm
#3721 [20:14] <Jakob> no
#3722 [20:14] <Jakob> i forgot
#3723 [20:14] <xales> mib_j3d9cl: spybot is antispyware. not antivirus
#3724 [20:14] <Jakob> I was... but I got that fixed
#3725 [20:14] <Brock> <mib_j3d9cl> im running spy bot, very powerful
#3726 [20:14] <Brock> lol
#3727 [20:14] <mib_j3d9cl> itl get rid of it
#3728 [20:14] <Brock> my new fav quote
#3729 [20:14] <Brock> :3
#3730 [20:14] <Jakob> lol
#3731 [20:14] <Jakob> Brock <:\
#3732 [20:14] <Jakob> -\
#3733 [20:14] <mib_j3d9cl> it got rid of my other trojans
#3734 [20:15] <Brock> uhm.
#3735 [20:15] <Diablothein> Why would you want to get rid of condoms?
#3736 [20:15] <Kealper> and if you do have a rootkit, it won't find anything because it will be able to mem hack said program to make it not detect stuff
#3737 [20:15] <mib_j3d9cl> ha
#3738 [20:15] <Jakob> how does one manage to get trojans?
#3739 [20:15] <Diablothein> pharmacy.
#3740 [20:15] <xales> Jakob: ask yourself that again
#3741 [20:15] <Kealper> Jakob: they give em out for free at many hospitals
#3742 [20:15] <Brock> lol.
#3743 [20:15] <Diablothein> that too.
#3744 [20:15] <Jakob> lolwut
#3745 [20:15] <Brock> GOD UR ALL SO FUNNY
#3746 [20:15] <Brock> :D
#3747 [20:15] <Jakob> :D
#3748 [20:15] <Brock> hmm
#3749 [20:15] <Jakob> seriously though.. how does one manage to get themself viruses
#3750 [20:15] <Brock> so
#3751 [20:15] <Jakob> lol
#3752 [20:15] <Brock> i just ran a test
#3753 [20:15] <Brock> and sat here
#3754 [20:16] <Brock> staring at my centos gui
#3755 [20:16] <Brock> of my vps
#3756 [20:16] <Brock> and watching
#3757 [20:16] <Brock> ...
#3758 [20:16] <Brock> BAM
#3759 [20:16] <Brock> server crashes
#3760 [20:16] <Jakob> It's not that difficult to be preotected
#3761 [20:16] <Jakob> lol ^
#3762 [20:16] <Jakob> :D
#3763 [20:16] <Brock> nobody is connected
#3764 [20:16] <Diablothein> Jakob, not using trojans.
#3765 [20:16] <Brock> etc.
#3766 [20:16] <Kealper> Jakob: when a website says they have a virus, and they should install this program to fix it....the user actually installs it
#3767 [20:16] <Kealper> and viola, virus
#3768 [20:16] <Jakob> hahaha
#3769 [20:16] <Jakob> yeah
#3770 [20:16] <Jakob> online antivirus
#3771 [20:16] <Brock> wtf why is my server randomely closing lol
#3772 [20:16] <Diablothein> XP Antivirus 2010! :O
#3773 [20:16] <Kealper> best one ever was one that looked like an antivirus scan for windows xp....
#3774 [20:16] <Brock> >:|
#3775 [20:17] <Kealper> and i was on linux mint at the time lol
#3776 [20:17] <Jakob> hahahaha
#3777 [20:17] <[twisti]> Jakob: there are valid online antivirus programs
#3778 [20:17] <Jakob> orly
#3779 [20:17] <Kealper> indeed
#3780 [20:17] <Kealper> most reputable av companies have online scanners you can run
#3781 [20:17] <Jakob> yeah
#3782 [20:17] <Jakob> meh
#3783 [20:18] <Jakob> just be smart about your computer
#3784 [20:18] <Jakob> or make your own av
#3785 [20:18] <Brock> lol.
#3786 [20:18] <Jakob> ._.
#3787 [20:18] <[twisti]> imo
#3788 [20:18] <Brock> u drunk?
#3789 [20:18] <Brock> :)\
#3790 [20:18] <Kealper> that all goes back to people not RTFMing
#3791 [20:18] <[twisti]> if you have to take my advice
#3792 [20:18] <[twisti]> use a fucking virus scanner
#3793 [20:18] <Jakob> lol
#3794 [20:18] <[twisti]> if you were smart enough to not need one, you wouldnt have to listen to some guy on irc
#3795 [20:19] <Brock> lol
#3796 [20:19] <Brock> i used to never use av
#3797 [20:19] <Jakob> or just rm rf
#3798 [20:19] <Brock> and i got a virus
#3799 [20:19] <Brock> how u may ask?
#3800 [20:19] <Kealper> rm -rf*
#3801 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> Step one for not getting infected: don't listen to advice on IRC ;)
#3802 [20:19] <Brock> I have a brother..
#3803 [20:19] <Jakob> yes Kealper
#3804 [20:19] <Jakob> typo
#3805 [20:19] <Jakob> :P
#3806 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> it's always someone's "Friend" or "brother"
#3807 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> no one infects eir oen computer
#3808 [20:19] <Kealper> del C;\Windows works just as well
#3809 [20:19] <Brock> hi.
#3810 [20:19] <Brock> im not black
#3811 [20:19] <Brock> so i didnt infect it
#3812 [20:19] <xales> Kealper: rm -rf /* actually
#3813 [20:19] <xales> :P
#3814 [20:19] <Brock> cya!
#3815 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> just like no one in prison is guilty, ever
#3816 [20:20] <[twisti]> i used to have a virus scanner installed but disabled, and use it to selectively scan files i considered dubious, like 'warez' or porn
#3817 [20:20] <Brock> DopeGhoti: he tried to download a 'ddoser program' he saw on a youtube video
#3818 [20:20] <[twisti]> worked out well for me, never got a virus, but then i knew what i was doing mostly
#3819 [20:20] <Brock> >_<
#3820 [20:20] <Jakob> How to set up a minecraft server; Step One: Delete System 32 - Step Two: i dunno lol
#3821 [20:20] <Kealper> Brock: ohgod
#3822 [20:20] <Brock> lol
#3823 [20:20] <mib_j3d9cl> be back
#3824 [20:20] <Kealper> i cringed
#3825 [20:20] <[twisti]> but these days, i have a decent pc so i dont give a shit about it eating some system resources
#3826 [20:20] <Brock> :|
#3827 [20:20] <Brock> icame back to the computer
#3828 [20:20] <Brock> and wondered
#3829 [20:20] <Brock> 'hey, why cant I right click?
#3830 [20:20] <Jakob> yeah who cares.. just reinstall your iso
#3831 [20:22] <[twisti]> imo, if you can say "just reinstall", youre not using your pc even remotely as much as you could
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#3833 [20:22] <Jakob> hmm
#3834 [20:22] <Jakob> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/kinect_hacked_to_play_full-body_world_of_warcraft.php
#3835 [20:22] <Jakob> someone here needs to develope minecraft for kinect
#3836 [20:22] <Kealper> [twisti]: depends how you have it set up
#3837 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> already done
#3838 [20:22] <[twisti]> well, if you make your own reinstall disc, thats another matter of course
#3839 [20:23] <Jakob> Just burn an iso to a disk
#3840 [20:23] <Jakob> and _purchase_ a key
#3841 [20:23] <[twisti]> although to be fair, id say if you make your own reinstall disc/script, youre doing something MASSIVELY wrong
#3842 [20:23] <Jakob> I'm eating nachos from 711
#3843 [20:23] <Jakob> therefor, I win
#3844 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> If one of your standard troubleshooting steps is "reinstall the OS", and it's _not_ a last resort, you're doing it wrong.
#3845 [20:24] <Jakob> therefore*
#3846 [20:24] * [twisti] went from like 2003 to 2008 without ever needing a reinstall
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#3847 [20:24] <[twisti]> DopeGhoti: very well put
#3848 [20:24] <Jakob> haha
#3849 [20:24] <Jakob> I honestly don't care..
#3850 [20:25] <Jakob> If I get a virus.. /me reinstalls windows 6
#3851 [20:25] <Jakob> windows 7
#3852 [20:25] <Jakob> maybe even ubuntu
#3853 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> lol, Windows 6, what kinda dodgey copy is that off ebay
#3854 [20:25] <Jakob> lolwut?
#3855 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> Windows 7 _is_ Windows 6.
#3856 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> 6.1 really.
#3857 [20:26] <NinjaKirby> I call it what they've officially labelled it as, no confusion
#3858 [20:26] <Jakob> what?
#3859 [20:26] <Jakob> then where the fuck did 7 come from??
#3860 [20:26] <xales> nowhere
#3861 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> Marketing.
#3862 [20:26] <xales> arbitrary-ish
#3863 [20:26] <Jakob> how did they get the number 7 lol...
#3864 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> Where did 'XP' come from?
#3865 [20:27] <Jakob> ha
#3866 [20:27] <xales> they added 1 to the number 6
#3867 [20:27] <Jakob> lol
#3868 [20:27] <Jakob> ..
#3869 [20:27] <Jakob> where did iOS come from?
#3870 [20:27] <Jakob> just kidding..
#3871 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> Some guy named Steve not wanting to have to say iPhoneOS-and-also-on-the-iPod-Touch-oh-and-iPod-Nano :)
#3872 [20:27] <[twisti]> pretty sure 7 is actually 7
#3873 [20:28] <xales> it came from steve jobs' ass
#3874 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> pretty sure you're wrong
#3875 [20:28] <[twisti]> 7 is a far cry from vista
#3876 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> Windows Vista was "6.0"; 7 is a point release from Vista
#3877 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> Windows 7 is Vista with a partial suckectomy, previously known as a "Service Pack"
#3878 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> only if they called it a service pack, tehy wouldn't be able to charge for it (again).
#3879 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> hence, 7.
#3880 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> also, for fun, open a command prompt and type 'ver'
#3881 [20:29] <[twisti]> yeah, no, thats incorrect
#3882 [20:29] <[twisti]> nm
#3883 [20:29] <[twisti]> i stand corrected
#3884 [20:29] <Diablothein> â–²
#3885 [20:29] <Diablothein> â–² â–²
#3886 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> ooo, trifoece
#3887 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> and also triforce
#3888 [20:29] <[twisti]> i checked the build and it went 7000+ for the first beta
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#3890 [20:30] <[twisti]> its still a far cry from vista ;)
#3891 [20:30] <schnozzle> hey guys im back
#3892 [20:31] <Jakob> hi
#3893 [20:31] * Matttttthew [Matttttthew@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3894 [20:31] <schnozzle> what free anti-virus do you guys recomend
#3895 [20:31] <Jakob> â–²
#3896 [20:31] <Jakob> â–² â–²
#3897 [20:31] <Jakob> Am I doing it rite?
#3898 [20:32] <Diablothein> mhm
#3899 [20:32] <Jakob> //say â–² | say â–² â–² | say Am I doing it rite?
#3900 [20:32] <Jakob> mirc ^
#3901 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> schnozzle: POSIX
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#3903 [20:32] <NinjaKirby> Is it just Ghasts I have to worry about Mob wise in the Nether?
#3904 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: and pigmen
#3905 [20:32] <Diablothein> Yeah, and Zombie Pigment
#3906 [20:32] <Diablothein> pigment... XD
#3907 [20:32] <schnozzle> what the hell is posix
#3908 [20:32] <NinjaKirby> ... really? Only if I attack them, presumably
#3909 [20:32] <Diablothein> schnozzle, go with clamav
#3910 [20:33] <schnozzle> which one
#3911 [20:33] <Diablothein> the windows version.
#3912 [20:33] <schnozzle> posix or clam
#3913 [20:33] <Diablothein> clamav
#3914 [20:33] <[twisti]> schnozzle: loaded question, i recommend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX
#3915 [20:33] <schnozzle> this is fun
#3916 [20:33] <Xaviergmail> test
#3917 [20:33] <Xaviergmail> /kiss
#3918 [20:34] <Jakob> what
#3919 [20:35] <schnozzle> i have windows 7, posix wont work, will it?
#3920 [20:35] <Jakob> zombie pigmen are very friendly creatures
#3921 [20:35] <xales> posix was a joke
#3922 [20:35] <xales> use clamwin
#3923 [20:35] <xales> clamwin.com
#3924 [20:35] <Diablothein> http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/about/win32/
#3925 [20:35] <schnozzle> oh
#3926 [20:37] <Kealper> i'd prefer if the inside jokes or nerd jokes be aimed at the ones who will understand them, and not at random people asking legit questions :/
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#3928 [20:37] <xales> I'd prefer it if people with less cool signs stop dictating rules to people with more cool signs :O
#3929 [20:37] <schnozzle> well now i know
#3930 [20:38] <xales> Kealper: xD
#3931 [20:38] <Kealper> lol
#3932 [20:38] <schnozzle> its good i learn here than be screwed in the real world
#3933 [20:38] <Xaviergmail> /msg Kealper *rubs your feet, slowly goes up to your penis*
#3934 [20:38] <Xaviergmail> oh SHIT!
#3935 [20:38] <Xaviergmail> Kealper, our cyber party is over!
#3936 [20:38] <Xaviergmail> RUN!
#3937 [20:38] <Kealper> o.o
#3938 [20:38] <Xaviergmail> CHANGE YO NAME
#3939 [20:39] <Diablothein> icwutudidthar
#3940 [20:39] <Xaviergmail> HIDE YO KIDZ HIDE YO WIFE
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#3942 [20:39] <I_aint_xavier> ok kealpy
#3943 [20:39] <Kealper> >.>
#3944 [20:39] <I_aint_xavier> while playing smp i got bsod
#3945 [20:40] * aetherian whistles
#3945 [20:40] <I_aint_xavier> (blk scrn o det)
#3946 [20:40] <aetherian> not that I can wihistle...
#3947 [20:40] <aetherian> bsod=blue, not black
#3948 [20:40] <xales> ^that
#3949 [20:41] <I_aint_xavier> no i got black screen of death
#3950 [20:41] <Kealper> the black window is the BWOD Black Window Of Doom
#3951 [20:41] <I_aint_xavier> it was black
#3952 [20:41] <xales> then it was the BWOD
#3953 [20:41] <Diablothein> Your monitor cord got disconnected XD
#3954 [20:41] <xales> not BSOD
#3955 [20:41] <I_aint_xavier> u called it black screen of death
#3956 [20:41] <I_aint_xavier> >.<
#3957 [20:41] <I_aint_xavier> w/e
#3958 [20:42] <I_aint_xavier> why'd that happen
#3959 [20:42] <I_aint_xavier> and i got out of memory errors 3 times
#3960 [20:42] <I_aint_xavier> i have 4 gb ram and only minecraft was running
#3961 [20:42] <Kealper> usually that happens when the computer does not have enough video memory to render the game or the drivers crapped out
#3962 [20:42] <I_aint_xavier> doesen't minecraft require only 120 mb video?
#3963 [20:43] <xales> no
#3964 [20:43] <Kealper> i've got no idea what the min is for vram
#3965 [20:43] <xales> its liek 256
#3966 [20:43] <xales> or more
#3967 [20:43] <I_aint_xavier> my dad [plays on a crappy comp and he called a comp shop
#3968 [20:43] <I_aint_xavier> and he got told minecraft needed 120
#3969 [20:43] <I_aint_xavier> and 2 gb ram on xp
#3970 [20:43] <I_aint_xavier> :O
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#3972 [20:44] <iSpartan> Can someone help me
#3973 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3974 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Never
#3975 [20:44] <I_aint_xavier> nowai
#3976 [20:44] <iSpartan> On minecraft I can't change my skin =\
#3977 [20:44] <xales> did you buy it?
#3978 [20:44] <Kealper> grey, LG is one of us michiganders
#3979 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay?
#3980 [20:44] <I_aint_xavier> username?
#3981 [20:44] <Diablothein> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YSy2vZKwMYE/TKqm9tVJWVI/AAAAAAAABEo/K-JwrGjV6g4/s1600/Justin-Bieber-Kurt-Cobain.jpg
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#3983 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> He is?
#3984 [20:44] <Kealper> he is
#3985 [20:44] <I_aint_xavier> whats your account name
#3986 [20:44] <iSpartan> wELL DUH.
#3987 [20:44] <I_aint_xavier> !paid iSpartan
#3988 [20:44] <iSpartan> iSpartan? o.0
#3989 [20:45] <Kealper> he;s only like 30 min away from me lol
#3990 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#3991 [20:45] <I_aint_xavier> ok
#3992 [20:45] <I_aint_xavier> go to minecraft.net
#3993 [20:45] <I_aint_xavier> and click profile
#3994 [20:45] <I_aint_xavier> and click upload skin
#3995 [20:45] <iSpartan> I know the browse and what ever..
#3996 [20:45] <I_aint_xavier> and select the picture
#3997 [20:45] <Diablothein> !paid iSpartan
#3998 [20:45] <Diablothein> Log in first
#3999 [20:45] <iSpartan> Like, I cant even upload...
#4000 [20:45] <I_aint_xavier> Diablothein, i did that already
#4001 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> iSpartan - Why can't you?
#4002 [20:45] <iSpartan> I cant upload....
#4003 [20:45] <iSpartan> I keep clicking upload then im still stuck as the same skin..
#4004 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> iSpartan - Can you use the skindex?
#4005 [20:45] <iSpartan> Ive been trying to change for over 3 hours.. =\
#4006 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Have them upload it for you
#4007 [20:46] <iSpartan> Ummm...
#4008 [20:46] <iSpartan> minecraftskins.com right?
#4009 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftskins.com/
#4010 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#4011 [20:46] <iSpartan> Okay.
#4012 [20:47] <aetherian> ugh, my disk drive is sfreaking out trying to get this old disc to run =\
#4013 [20:47] <xales> xavier
#4014 [20:47] <xales> you should change your name back
#4015 [20:47] <xales> i liked the old one better
#4016 [20:47] <iSpartan> WOW
#4017 [20:47] <iSpartan> I did that
#4018 [20:47] <iSpartan> And it STILL Didnt work.
#4019 [20:48] <iSpartan> My skin is like stuck on there.
#4020 [20:48] <iSpartan> I even had the site do it for me.
#4021 [20:48] <Kealper> hey grey, do you think aubot should autokick people whos nick starts with mib_ and tell them (nicely) to choose a username?
#4022 [20:48] <xales> I do! :D
#4023 [20:49] <xales> the mib army is a pain to autocomplete
#4024 [20:49] <Kealper> that's my reasoning behind it, more than one mib_ and it's hard to know what is what
#4025 [20:49] <Kealper> but me likes group decisions
#4026 [20:49] <mib_> But... but...
#4027 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Nah.
#4028 [20:50] <Kealper> then i'm making a module that will make aubot deop itself, people keep opping it and it's got no reasy to be op
#4029 [20:50] <Kealper> reason*
#4030 [20:50] <iSpartan> Site needs a upgrade or a "refresh" skin button..
#4031 [20:51] <xales> lol
#4032 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Not really hard
#4033 [20:51] <Kealper> but /deop aubot is much less fun than aubot appearing sentient
#4034 [20:51] <iSpartan> Ummm if you skin won't change and you have been trying to change it for the last hour, I would suggest it. =P
#4035 [20:51] <Kealper> and i need a project to work on -.-
#4036 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> iSpartan - Still doesn't work?
#4037 [20:52] <iSpartan> Nope..
#4038 [20:52] <iSpartan> Nothing is working.
#4039 [20:52] <iSpartan> =] . ..
#4040 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Did you use the icon with the drive and arrow point upwards?
#4041 [20:52] <iSpartan> Yes..... -.-''
#4042 [20:52] <iSpartan> =\
#4043 [20:53] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: the skindex is half borked lately
#4044 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Bwah?
#4045 [20:53] <iSpartan> Borked? Broke
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#4047 [20:53] <Kealper> borked, it's an internet term for being totally FUBAR
#4048 [20:53] <iSpartan> Sigh e.e
#4049 [20:53] <Kealper> usually for a stupid reason aswell
#4050 [20:53] <iSpartan> This is getting annoying. =]
#4051 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Interesting...
#4052 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> I get a "Failed to load texture for http://www.minecraft.net/skin/ispartan.png
#4053 [20:54] <Kealper> O.o
#4054 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> when I try to load yours
#4055 [20:54] <iSpartan> =\ . . .
#4056 [20:54] <Kealper> woh
#4057 [20:54] <Kealper> 404'd
#4058 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> You are ispartan, right?
#4059 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/skin/ispartan.png
#4060 [20:54] <iSpartan> Yes...
#4061 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> There's no skin for you
#4062 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> That... is a new one
#4063 [20:55] <iSpartan> What skin is it?
#4064 [20:55] <Kealper> wait
#4065 [20:55] <Kealper> waaaaiiiit
#4066 [20:55] <Kealper> http://www.minecraft.net/skin/iSpartan.png
#4067 [20:55] <Diablothein> there.
#4068 [20:55] <iSpartan> Lol
#4069 [20:55] <Kealper> stupid case sensitive webserver...
#4070 [20:55] <Diablothein> case sensitive :D
#4071 [20:55] <schnozzle> when i pplayed inbrowser for windows xp in ie with my other computer it worked
#4072 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Oh right
#4073 [20:55] <iSpartan> ._. . . .
#4074 [20:55] <schnozzle> why does it not work for windows 7 in ie
#4075 [20:55] <iSpartan> Thats the skin
#4076 [20:55] <Kealper> is that a snow creeper skin?
#4077 [20:56] <iSpartan> Yep I want a snow creeper skin =\ Ive been trying to upload the skin so I could try it >_<,
#4078 [20:56] <Kealper> lol
#4079 [20:56] <iSpartan> But every time I load the page it's stuck on that headphones skin... =(
#4080 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> headphones skin?
#4081 [20:56] <Kealper> well, what that image says is that your skin is applied
#4082 [20:57] <Kealper> so it should work ingame
#4083 [20:57] <iSpartan> Ill test ._.'
#4084 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, but http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=iSpartan.png
#4085 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> doesn't
#4086 [20:57] <iSpartan> Nope .-.
#4087 [20:57] <Kealper> iSpartan: connect to mc.kealper.com lol, i wanna see it :P
#4088 [20:57] <iSpartan> Didnt work ingame
#4089 [20:57] <Kealper> really?
#4090 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> wait a second
#4091 [20:57] <Kealper> damn
#4092 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Kealper
#4093 [20:57] <Kealper> yes?
#4094 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> pull that link back up
#4095 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> do you have your java console?
#4096 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Tell me what it's telling you
#4097 [20:57] <xales> I_aint_xavier: you should change your nick back i liked the old one better
#4098 [20:58] <Kealper> wat?
#4099 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> When you try to pull up iSpartan's model
#4100 [20:58] <iSpartan> Okay on YOU guyses stuff..
#4101 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> does your java console say anything?
#4102 [20:58] <Kealper> i disabled the systray icon, i can't view the java console
#4103 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> You suck
#4104 [20:58] <iSpartan> I think my account is broken =\
#4105 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> No
#4106 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Failed to load texture for http://www.minecraft.net/skin/iSpartan.png.png
#4107 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#4108 [20:58] <xales> .png .png
#4109 [20:58] <xales> ?
#4110 [20:58] <xales> lol
#4111 [20:58] <iSpartan> Lol.
#4112 [20:59] <iSpartan> Skin is back..
#4113 [20:59] <iSpartan> Fixed.
#4114 [20:59] <iSpartan> Okay no longer need help
#4115 [20:59] <iSpartan> Thank you bye =]
#4116 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#4117 [20:59] <Kealper> wait wiatkl ahsdjasdf
#4118 [20:59] <Kealper> wait
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#4120 [20:59] <Kealper> http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=iSpartan
#4121 [20:59] <iSpartan> ._.My skin loaded ingame too..
#4122 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> Still shows you using a default skin
#4123 [21:00] <iSpartan> Not on my computer ._.
#4124 [21:00] <iSpartan> Shows me as a Snow creeper o .o
#4125 [21:00] <Kealper> works on mine
#4126 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> I don't see it...
#4127 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
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#4129 [21:00] <Goordon> known bug guys
#4130 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> oh wait
#4131 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Now I do
#4132 [21:00] * GreyVulpine kicks
#4132 [21:00] * Xaviergmail [Xaviergmail@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4133 [21:00] <iSpartan> Lol...
#4134 [21:00] * iSpartan has kicked xales !
#4134 [21:00] <Goordon> idk how to fix it may restart ur mc or sum :P had this bug often , too
#4135 [21:01] <iSpartan> =\
#4136 [21:01] <iSpartan> Wow im lagging bad brb....must be this computer
#4137 [21:01] * GreyVulpine blehs and goes back to Killing Floor
#4137 [21:01] <iSpartan> Or my internet connection...
#4138 [21:01] <xales> have fun grey
#4139 [21:01] <iSpartan> Brb guys..
#4140 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> It's not a bad game, just need to get headshots... all damn game.
#4141 [21:01] <Kealper> lol
#4142 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> And it doesn't help that it's laggy netcode.
#4143 [21:02] <Kealper> :/
#4144 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Bunch of maps have ledges, I don't dare crouch near them, for lag will always push me off.
#4145 [21:03] <Kealper> i hate the crouch in minecraft....
#4146 [21:03] <xales> why?
#4147 [21:03] <aetherian> why, kelly- I mean kealp?
#4148 [21:03] <Kealper> a few times in l4d2 i found myself crouching near edges only to fall into a horde of zombies
#4149 [21:04] <aetherian> wahaha
#4150 [21:04] <xales> hahahahahaha
#4151 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Heh
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#4153 [21:05] <Name2> o.o
#4154 [21:05] <Kealper> O.o
#4155 [21:05] <Name2> What the heck
#4156 [21:05] <Name2> Whos on my account??
#4157 [21:05] * xaviergmail [xaviergmail@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4158 [21:05] <Name2> >__>
#4159 [21:05] <Name2> Guys it's iSpartan.
#4160 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> We know
#4161 [21:06] <Name2> ._. Must be a ghost.
#4162 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Your other account hasn't pinged out yet
#4163 [21:06] <Name2> Kick it? =D
#4164 [21:07] <xales> a kick will keep it on the network
#4165 [21:07] <Name2> o.o Good choice.
#4166 [21:08] <iSpartan> =]
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#4168 [21:08] <xales> wow
#4169 [21:08] <xales> who r u
#4170 [21:08] <iSpartan> Lol.
#4171 [21:08] <xales> u just came in 2 dis chat
#4172 [21:08] <xales> who is u
#4173 [21:08] * xales is practicing being a moron
#4173 [21:09] <xales> ;)
#4174 [21:09] <Kealper> !paid Creeper
#4175 [21:09] <Kealper> Son, I am disappoint.
#4176 [21:10] <Kealper> !Paid Skeleton
#4177 [21:10] <Kealper> ._.
#4178 [21:10] <xales> !paid ilikeminecraft
#4179 [21:10] <xales> !paid wikileaks
#4180 [21:11] <iSpartan> :0
#4181 [21:11] <schnozzle> how come minecraft worked on xp ie but not win 7 ie
#4182 [21:11] <xales> !paid notch2
#4183 [21:11] <iSpartan> How could you people!
#4184 [21:11] <xales> lol
#4185 [21:11] <iSpartan> Not pay for Minecraft.
#4186 [21:11] <xales> !paid notch3
#4187 [21:11] <iSpartan> =( Im disappointed.
#4188 [21:11] <xales> !paid notch4
#4189 [21:11] <xales> look at all the notches
#4190 [21:11] <xales> hahaha
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#4192 [21:11] <xales> !paid notch4
#4193 [21:11] <xales> its broke kealper
#4194 [21:11] <xales> !paid notch4
#4195 [21:11] <iSpartan> Does the pay command only work for ops+?
#4196 [21:11] <xales> nope
#4197 [21:11] <Kealper> no
#4198 [21:11] <iSpartan> !paid Kealper
#4199 [21:11] <Cial> !paid Cial
#4200 [21:11] <iSpartan> =o Ooooo
#4201 [21:11] <xales> !paid cial
#4202 [21:11] <iSpartan> !paid ''
#4203 [21:12] <Kealper> too fast
#4204 [21:12] <aetherian> wtf?
#4205 [21:12] <Diablothein> abusing command.
#4206 [21:12] <david_> Hi! I cannot mine wood with hands - is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
#4207 [21:12] <iSpartan> !paid ``
#4208 [21:12] <xales> !paid ' OR 1=1
#4209 [21:12] <xales> david_: hold the mouse down
#4210 [21:12] <iSpartan> You have to hold down on the mouse.
#4211 [21:12] <iSpartan> Or button.
#4212 [21:12] <iSpartan> Left Click =D
#4213 [21:12] <david_> @xales: Thank you a lot! I feel stupid :)
#4214 [21:12] <xales> david_: no problem
#4215 [21:12] <iSpartan> D: No thanks?
#4216 [21:13] <xales> I said it first
#4217 [21:13] <Kealper> !paid you can't make it inject code :P
#4218 [21:13] * iSpartan sad face =|
#4218 [21:13] <iSpartan> LOL xD
#4219 [21:13] <david_> I repeatedly clicked... seems to be wrong
#4220 [21:13] <david_> Cya guys
#4221 [21:13] <iSpartan> Lol.
#4222 [21:13] <iSpartan> See ya!
#4223 [21:13] <xales> !paid ' OR 1=1; OHYESICAN
#4224 [21:13] <lukegb> !paid lukegb
#4225 [21:13] <iSpartan> !paid lukegb
#4226 [21:13] <lukegb> !paid bacon
#4227 [21:13] <iSpartan> Lol.
#4228 [21:13] <iSpartan> You cant do it =P
#4229 [21:13] <xales> !paid pigman
#4230 [21:13] <lukegb> !paid BACON
#4231 [21:13] <lukegb> ;;
#4232 [21:13] <iSpartan> :0
#4233 [21:13] <iSpartan> !paid ``
#4234 [21:13] <iSpartan> Dun dun dun...
#4235 [21:13] <xales> !paid imsurprisedmicleehasn'tpaidforpigman
#4236 [21:13] <Miclee> I want the account 'Pigman' but someone already took it
#4237 [21:14] <iSpartan> =]
#4238 [21:14] <lukegb> xales: try !paid !help
#4239 [21:14] <xales> haha miclee
#4240 [21:14] <Miclee> Which make Miclee = mad.
#4241 [21:14] <iSpartan> !paid LG_Legacy
#4242 [21:14] <iSpartan> Dang.
#4243 [21:14] <iSpartan> Oh well.
#4244 [21:14] <LG_Legacy> ?
#4245 [21:14] <iSpartan> Back to helping people i don't know and getting help from people idk.
#4246 [21:14] <LG_Legacy> I'd rather not have a bot have a bot in here.
#4247 [21:14] <LG_Legacy> Er
#4248 [21:14] <LG_Legacy> I'd rather not have a bot in here but..
#4249 [21:14] <iSpartan> have a bot have a bot? xD
#4250 [21:14] <LG_Legacy> Tw is never around
#4251 [21:15] <Kealper> Tw doesn't care
#4252 [21:15] <LG_Legacy> Grey outranks me so it's up to him.
#4253 [21:15] <LG_Legacy> Meh
#4254 [21:15] <iSpartan> !paid AuBot
#4255 [21:15] <Kealper> and yes, i was just about to say that they are going a bit overboard on that spam
#4256 [21:15] <iSpartan> LOL
#4257 [21:15] <iSpartan> AuBot I will donate to you 1 quarter xD.
#4258 [21:16] <iSpartan> !paid nipper
#4259 [21:16] <Kealper> you can stop highlighting people and spamming the channel now :/
#4260 [21:16] <iSpartan> Okay, im done. =\
#4261 [21:16] * n0manarmy [n0manarmy@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4262 [21:17] <iSpartan> I was trying to find funny names.
#4263 [21:17] <iSpartan> =[
#4264 [21:17] <iSpartan> Im sorry dad ;___;
#4265 [21:17] * Kealper peruses the skindex
#4265 [21:17] <Miclee> !paid Creeper
#4266 [21:17] <Miclee> Damn.
#4267 [21:17] <n0manarmy> quick question that I couldn't solidify by googling. I'm running a private survival server with a few friends and we built a portal to the nether/nexus and it doesn't work. I've stood in it for an extended period of time and nothing happens. is it disabled in survival MP on purpose?
#4268 [21:17] <Kealper> Miclee: i thought the SAME thing lol
#4269 [21:17] <iSpartan> What
#4270 [21:18] <iSpartan> Creeper hasnt pay'd for it!~?
#4271 [21:18] <xales> n0manarmy: SMP doesn't support it
#4272 [21:18] <xales> its not been added
#4273 [21:18] <iSpartan> How does creeper play but he didnt pay >:0
#4274 [21:18] <n0manarmy> doh
#4275 [21:18] <n0manarmy> ok, well, that helps. Thank you!
#4276 [21:18] <iSpartan> You welcome xales says.
#4277 [21:18] <iSpartan> =]
#4278 [21:18] <xales> .___.
#4279 [21:19] <xales> indeed
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#4281 [21:19] <iSpartan> xD
#4282 [21:19] <iSpartan> Yay another question, another answer =]
#4283 [21:20] <Diablothein> iSpartan, he can play because he gave Notch a hug.
#4284 [21:21] <xales> or maybe notch is a creeper
#4285 [21:21] <Diablothein> Notch gave him a hug*
#4286 [21:21] <xales> :P
#4287 [21:21] <iSpartan> Lol
#4288 [21:21] <iSpartan> =P
#4289 [21:21] <Diablothein> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn_rxaipG8M
#4290 [21:21] <iSpartan> Knew it.
#4291 [21:22] <iSpartan> Well there is the proof right there..
#4292 [21:22] <iSpartan> Im gonna play Mario Kart now o .o
#4293 [21:23] <Diablothein> Minecraft*
#4294 [21:23] <iSpartan> Mario kart wii*
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#4296 [21:23] <iSpartan> ._.
#4297 [21:24] <iSpartan> !paid Coolkidbloo
#4298 [21:24] <iSpartan> =\ Dang.
#4299 [21:24] <iSpartan> !paid Yo mama
#4300 [21:24] <iSpartan> Lol...
#4301 [21:24] <iSpartan> Anyway see you guys
#4302 [21:24] <lukegb> Has lukegb&a=true paid? :P
#4303 [21:24] <iSpartan> Umm
#4304 [21:24] <iSpartan> !paid lukegb
#4305 [21:24] <iSpartan> Yep
#4306 [21:25] <Kealper> !unload mod_mchelp
#4307 [21:25] <lukegb> Nooooo
#4308 [21:25] <lukegb> :P
#4309 [21:25] <lukegb> Kealper: are you fixing, or just the spam? :P
#4310 [21:25] <Kealper> the spam :/
#4311 [21:26] <iSpartan> Wait guys
#4312 [21:27] <iSpartan> Who should I use in MKW? Toad or Koopa Troopa?
#4313 [21:27] <iSpartan> Ima use Koopa troopa =D
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#4316 [21:35] <Kealper> alright i'm off here....i'll probably go to sleep soon...if not...i'll be back on later then lol
#4317 [21:35] <Kealper> !load mod_mchelp
#4318 [21:35] <Kealper> please don't spam that !paid thing :S
#4319 [21:39] <aetherian> waitaminnit
#4320 [21:39] <aetherian> kealps, you're going to bed already?
#4321 [21:39] <aetherian> it's only... what, 8? 9?
#4322 [21:39] <aetherian> 10, mae?yb
#4323 [21:39] <aetherian> ^failtype
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#4325 [21:45] <Diablothein> marblecake.
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#4328 [21:50] <schnozzle> when i try to open alpha multiplayer .exe it says find, when i click on it says windows does not recognize mime type
#4329 [21:50] <Diablothein> Kealper, come back!
#4330 [21:51] <schnozzle> do i have to download something
#4331 [21:52] <mbentley> schnozzle: that's not normal for an .exe file
#4332 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#4333 [21:52] <mbentley> what os?
#4334 [21:52] <schnozzle> never mind the alpha
#4335 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on? How are you opening the file?
#4336 [21:53] <schnozzle> nevermind, still cant play download, because cant play inbrowser
#4337 [21:53] <schnozzle> do you have a solution to this?
#4338 [21:53] <mbentley> you might want to answer our questions...
#4339 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell us some more information?
#4340 [21:53] <schnozzle> been on here for hours, cant find an answer
#4341 [21:53] <schnozzle> sure, i have windows 7 with ie
#4342 [21:54] <mbentley> ok, so you can't play in browser or with the client .exe ?
#4343 [21:54] <schnozzle> i can do the download .exe file
#4344 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Does it run?
#4345 [21:55] <schnozzle> but i cant play because it tells me i have to play online(inbrowser) first
#4346 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft?
#4347 [21:55] <schnozzle> to rgister, but i am already logged in
#4348 [21:56] <schnozzle> yes i payed, and am logged on
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#4350 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> And what happens when you try to play it in browser?
#4351 [21:56] <schnozzle> it did this for my other comp, was able to do inbrowser and downloaded fine and
#4352 [21:57] <schnozzle> windows does not allow it, it blocks me even if i allow
#4353 [21:57] <mbentley> not sure what that means exactly
#4354 [21:58] <schnozzle> i cant use any other internet browsers because they wont work on this comp
#4355 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Windows blocks it itself? Or some other security software?
#4356 [21:58] <schnozzle> here, ill tell you exactly what it says 1 sec
#4357 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Heck, even a screenshot of the error would help
#4358 [21:59] <schnozzle> im on my dell mini, and the prob is my desktop
#4359 [22:00] <schnozzle> i allowed it, and it says "windows has blocked software because it cannot verify the publisher", then you can only click ok
#4360 [22:00] <schnozzle> name: game
#4361 [22:00] <schnozzle> publisher: unknown publisher
#4362 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#4363 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Okay
#4364 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Security settings from windows thene
#4365 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> then*
#4366 [22:01] <schnozzle> can i fix them, firewall is off
#4367 [22:01] <schnozzle> dont know how
#4368 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your IE toolbar, at the top, click on Tools -> Internet options
#4369 [22:02] <schnozzle> im there
#4370 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Go to the security tab. Tell me what the level is set to
#4371 [22:03] <schnozzle> custom
#4372 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Okay....
#4373 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Could you press the Custom level button.
#4374 [22:03] <schnozzle> yep
#4375 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Wish I could look at your computer, cause there's a lot of stuff in there
#4376 [22:04] <schnozzle> yeah, hold on let me try something
#4377 [22:05] <schnozzle> never mind, my desktop wont let me on this irc
#4378 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Okay um. Could you reset the security level to med-high, or even low?
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#4380 [22:07] <schnozzle> theres no low on here, i am on med-high, only lower one in med
#4381 [22:07] <Revan> hi is there anyone who can help me with the "[WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?" problem
#4382 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Revan - That's a normal message
#4383 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Ignore it
#4384 [22:07] <Revan> ok
#4385 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Hmm, perhaps add www.minecraft.net to the Trusted sites list?
#4386 [22:08] <Revan> is there any reason my friend can not acces my server at the same time a nother friend does and i see them in it
#4387 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> How is your friend accessing it?
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#4389 [22:08] <schnozzle> it says i have to add an s to http(https) will that be the same?
#4390 [22:09] <Revan> through the minecraft beta multiplayer (downloaded one)
#4391 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Oh, turn off the Require server verification checkbox
#4392 [22:09] <schnozzle> wher?, how?
#4393 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Revan - Is he able to access any other servers? Or just not yours
#4394 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Um, isn't there a checkbox in the trusted sites prompt?
#4395 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> I don't run 7 myself..
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#4397 [22:10] <schnozzle> ohh, my bad
#4398 [22:10] <schnozzle> yes there is
#4399 [22:11] <Revan> i dont know, mostlikely not, does it bing a mac and a laptop effect anything?
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#4401 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't
#4402 [22:11] <schnozzle> same error
#4403 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Could you take a screenshot, and upload it to imgur.com?
#4404 [22:12] <aetherian> whoa
#4405 [22:12] <schnozzle> yeah
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#4407 [22:12] <Revan> is there any way to boost the power of the server?
#4408 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Revan - Everybody gets that warning message.
#4409 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Now, um. Can he access any other minecraft beta servers?
#4410 [22:13] <Revan> yes but its very laggy on my other computer i need it not laggy
#4411 [22:13] <aetherian> dammit
#4412 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Revan - Then turn down your Fog by pressing F
#4413 [22:13] <aetherian> why oh why do these games need me to input codes in long-lost manuals ;_;
#4414 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#4415 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Old school copy protection.
#4416 [22:14] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: because you're a dirty filthy pirate y'arrr
#4417 [22:14] <aetherian> nonono
#4418 [22:14] <aetherian> I bought the game myself
#4419 [22:14] <DopeGhoti> or at least you are by default.
#4420 [22:14] <aetherian> like three plus years ago
#4421 [22:14] <DopeGhoti> And you tossed the manual?
#4422 [22:14] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: When you buy a car, don't throw away the key.
#4423 [22:15] <aetherian> and I lost the manual somewhere along the line >.>
#4424 [22:15] <DopeGhoti> s/throw away/lose/
#4425 [22:15] <schnozzle> its uploaded, what now
#4426 [22:15] <Revan> one last Q is there any form or something that has actual info on minecraft and how it all works not a bunch of ppl talking or usles info?
#4427 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Could you paste the link to it here?
#4428 [22:15] <aetherian> hey, on windows 7, where is the .minecraft folder located?
#4429 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> %appdata%
#4430 [22:15] <DopeGhoti> Revan: this is IRC, not SMS or Twitter. Please use complete words.
#4431 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> same as any other windows box
#4432 [22:16] <schnozzle> http://imgur.com/UIMq0
#4433 [22:16] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: I thought in Windows 6+, it was %UserData%? (I could quite well be wrong..)
#4434 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> It should still be %appdata%....
#4435 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure
#4436 [22:16] <Revan> it is %appdata%
#4437 [22:16] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: sorry, thinking of something else
#4438 [22:17] <aetherian> found it
#4439 [22:17] <aetherian> ty
#4440 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Ah, hmm
#4441 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Go to Tools -> Manage Add-ons
#4442 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Enable or disable Add-ons
#4443 [22:18] <schnozzle> wheres that at
#4444 [22:19] <aetherian> well, it's time for my stupid question
#4445 [22:19] <aetherian> failed to launch
#4446 [22:19] <aetherian> fatal error occured (4): failed to download lwjl.jar
#4447 [22:19] <aetherian> retrieving: lwjl.jar 0%
#4448 [22:20] <aetherian> [/stupid question]
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#4450 [22:20] <schnozzle> computers are amazing
#4451 [22:20] <schnozzle> amazingly frustrating at times
#4452 [22:20] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: I fail to detect a question.
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#4454 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - It's gotta be a security issue somewhere. umm.. I just need a minute to find the right prompt
#4455 [22:20] <aetherian> okay then, let me make it simpler
#4456 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> I hate IE
#4457 [22:20] <aetherian> the question is:
#4458 [22:20] <aetherian> how do I fix it
#4459 [22:20] <aetherian> I thought that was obvious >.>
#4460 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you can access minecraft.net?
#4461 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Firewall?
#4462 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Security software?
#4463 [22:21] <schnozzle> its ok, i hate it when no other browser BUT IE works
#4464 [22:22] <schnozzle> where do i find that info, fire wall is off, i have no internet security
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#4466 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Hold on a sec.
#4467 [22:22] <schnozzle> now fire wall is off, hold on
#4468 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Go to Tools -> internet options -> advanced
#4469 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Torwards the bottom should be a security heading
#4470 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Look for "Allow software to run or install even if the signature is invalid"
#4471 [22:24] <schnozzle> nope fire wall is off and still same error
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#4473 [22:24] <schnozzle> ok refreshing now
#4474 [22:25] <schnozzle> same error
#4475 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Okay... go back to that window again
#4476 [22:25] <schnozzle> ok
#4477 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Look for "Check for publisher's certificate revocation"
#4478 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> and "Check for server certificate revocation"
#4479 [22:26] <schnozzle> where
#4480 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> at the security heading again
#4481 [22:26] <schnozzle> oh
#4482 [22:26] <schnozzle> it was already checked
#4483 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> uncheck it
#4484 [22:27] <schnozzle> server and publisher, or just server
#4485 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> both
#4486 [22:28] <schnozzle> same error
#4487 [22:28] * GreyVulpine blinks
#4487 [22:28] <schnozzle> CANNOT STAND WINDOWS!
#4488 [22:29] <schnozzle> but this works on my dell mini with xp
#4489 [22:29] <schnozzle> but it is a mini so a lot of lag, cant even move
#4490 [22:30] <schnozzle> its interesting how security works when its not supposed to, but doesnt when it needs to
#4491 [22:30] <schnozzle> window security that is
#4492 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Windows' security is a joke
#4493 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> It hampers more than it helps
#4494 [22:31] <schnozzle> exactly
#4495 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Man, I don't get it.
#4496 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Could you reinstall java, just for the hell of it?
#4497 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> java.com
#4498 [22:32] <schnozzle> that was my first problem, i had to reinstall it 3 times, it stopped giving me the"application error" and now this
#4499 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Bwah?
#4500 [22:32] <schnozzle> yeah
#4501 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Did you completely uninstall it first?
#4502 [22:33] <schnozzle> yes
#4503 [22:33] <schnozzle> this is now a "Windows problem"
#4504 [22:34] <schnozzle> i can run other java applications, just not this
#4505 [22:34] <xales> what happens when you try to run it?
#4506 [22:34] * GreyVulpine points xales at http://imgur.com/UIMq0
#4506 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> For the browser version
#4507 [22:34] <xales> oh Grey, add this link to your list of java debugging: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
#4508 [22:35] <schnozzle> what do you meen
#4509 [22:35] <xales> http://www.windowsreference.com/internet-explorer/windows-has-blocked-this-software-because-it-cant-verify-the-publisher/
#4510 [22:35] <xales> derp
#4511 [22:35] <schnozzle> cant even get it to run because of this security warning
#4512 [22:35] <xales> do that schnozzle
#4513 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I've walked him through those steps
#4514 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Still didn't work
#4515 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> I think.
#4516 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Wait, these are different.
#4517 [22:36] <schnozzle> hold on, typing this thing into browser
#4518 [22:36] <xales> just copy it?
#4519 [22:36] <xales> ._.
#4520 [22:37] <schnozzle> im on my dell mini, the problem is on my desktop
#4521 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Just curious, why can't your desktop run any other browsers, or access IRC?
#4522 [22:38] <Diablothein> not admin.
#4523 [22:38] <schnozzle> dont know, they download but wont connect to internet
#4524 [22:38] <schnozzle> iam the admin
#4525 [22:39] <schnozzle> iv tried that website a while ago, same error
#4526 [22:39] <schnozzle> ive downloaded opera and firefox and chrome but only one that connects is IE
#4527 [22:41] <xales> how does the desktop connect to the internet?
#4528 [22:42] <schnozzle> hope this can get fixed before people decide to leave:)
#4529 [22:42] <xales> ^
#4530 [22:42] <xales> how does the desktop connect to the internet?
#4531 [22:42] <schnozzle> through a wireless mifi card
#4532 [22:42] <xales> and does the laptop connect in the same way?
#4533 [22:42] <schnozzle> does not plug into computer
#4534 [22:42] <schnozzle> every computer in the house
#4535 [22:44] <schnozzle> only had malware on computer(just did scan) and took it off, dont think its that
#4536 [22:44] <xales> so every computer is connecting over 'mifi' to the internet?
#4537 [22:45] <schnozzle> yes all three
#4538 [22:45] <xales> call them
#4539 [22:45] <xales> and tell them to set up your desktop
#4540 [22:45] <xales> to use other browsers
#4541 [22:45] <schnozzle> wait what
#4542 [22:45] <xales> call the mifi people
#4543 [22:45] <xales> and tell them
#4544 [22:45] <xales> to set up your desktop to use other browsers
#4545 [22:45] <schnozzle> oh, its sprint and i hate dealing with them
#4546 [22:46] <xales> no other choice :\
#4547 [22:46] <schnozzle> dont know if that will help, my other windows computer and can run firefox
#4548 [22:46] <schnozzle> and its connected through the mifi card
#4549 [22:47] <schnozzle> its a mini so cant play minecraft too laggy
#4550 [22:47] <Guest756649894> hi LG_Legacy
#4551 [22:47] <Guest756649894> yo lg i have 7 glowstone dust
#4552 [22:48] <Guest756649894> and i've been told its illegal
#4553 [22:48] <xales> schnozzle: they can tell you what you have to do to make it work
#4554 [22:48] <xales> I don't use 'mifi' so i don't know
#4555 [22:49] <schnozzle> my network compnay?
#4556 [22:49] <schnozzle> cant imagine how
#4557 [22:49] <Guest756649894> LG_Legacy, read above
#4558 [22:49] <schnozzle> they have no control over my computer
#4559 [22:49] <Guest756649894> wtf's with my name
#4560 [22:49] <LG_Legacy> ?
#4561 [22:49] <xales> schnozzle: there is probably a configuration you need to change
#4562 [22:49] <Xaviergmail> who the fuck protected my name?
#4563 [22:49] <Xaviergmail> row gay
#4564 [22:49] <LG_Legacy> This is for #minecrafthelp
#4565 [22:49] <xales> derp
#4566 [22:49] <lukegb> ...
#4567 [22:49] <xales> gtfo of my channel
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#4569 [22:50] <lukegb> .....
#4570 [22:50] <LG_Legacy> Knock it off
#4571 [22:50] <schnozzle> no other way
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#4573 [22:50] <LG_Legacy> If you want to protect him theres a command for it
#4574 [22:50] <Xavier> FUCK YOU XALES
#4575 [22:50] <LG_Legacy> Enough
#4576 [22:50] <xales> ?
#4577 [22:50] <schnozzle> ill try it, what do i tell them
#4578 [22:50] <LG_Legacy> No bullshit.
#4579 [22:50] <Xavier> he registered my name
#4580 [22:50] <xales> you didn't?
#4581 [22:50] <Xavier> im the real xaviergmail
#4582 [22:50] <Xavier> no i couldnt be fucked to
#4583 [22:50] <xales> piss people off and don't register your nick? thats what happens
#4584 [22:51] <Xavier> l0l
#4585 [22:51] <Diablothein> XD
#4586 [22:51] <Xavier> sad kids with voice thinks they can do everything they want
#4587 [22:51] <Xavier> but voice doesent do anything
#4588 [22:51] <xales> it has nothing to do with the channel
#4589 [22:51] <xales> well, guess who isn't getting their nick bak
#4590 [22:51] <xales> I was going to give it back
#4591 [22:51] <xales> but now I won't
#4592 [22:51] <aetherian> jeez guys
#4593 [22:51] <LG_Legacy> Knock it off
#4594 [22:52] <LG_Legacy> If you don't like someone pm them
#4595 [22:52] <XalesSucksFuckingBigCock> ok ima pm him
#4596 [22:52] * LG_Legacy kicked XalesSucksFuckingBigCock from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: )
#4597 [22:52] <LG_Legacy> Idiot
#4598 [22:52] <xales> he started spamming me ._.
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#4600 [22:52] <xales> idiot
#4601 [22:52] <xales> I want him to change nicks
#4602 [22:52] <xales> now
#4603 [22:52] <xales> so I can get him removed
#4604 [22:52] <aetherian> quit acting like elementary schoolers
#4605 [22:52] <aetherian> dammit
#4606 [22:52] <aetherian> now my line is a far way to the right
#4607 [22:52] <xales> ._____,
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#4609 [22:53] <Anthro_Huskey> lol uh hey guys
#4610 [22:53] <Anthro_Huskey> xales thanks for your help last time
#4611 [22:53] <xales> no problem
#4612 [22:53] <Anthro_Huskey> for the moment a new card isnt avalible to me but a firned suggested taking the side panal off my tower
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#4614 [22:53] <xales`> ...
#4615 [22:53] <xales`> my name is xales and im just a big troll
#4616 [22:54] * GreyVulpine kicked xales` from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: 4*BAM*)()
#4617 [22:54] <Anthro_Huskey> and excitingly odd news
#4618 [22:54] <aetherian> dammit people, mature a little, won't you?
#4619 [22:54] <xales> ty grey
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#4621 [22:54] <xales`> o
#4622 [22:54] <xales> stop
#4623 [22:54] <xales> now
#4624 [22:54] <Diablothein> 3rd time b&
#4625 [22:54] <xales> or else
#4626 [22:54] <schnozzle> hey its not my mifi because it works on my dell mini
#4627 [22:54] <schnozzle> any other ideas
#4628 [22:54] <Anthro_Huskey> yea keep that shit up man real smart
#4629 [22:54] <xales> schnozzle: your dell mini may have different settings
#4630 [22:54] <xales`> just give me my name back
#4631 [22:54] <schnozzle> who else can i talk to
#4632 [22:54] <xales> xales`: not after you spam me, I have no reason to give it back
#4633 [22:54] <schnozzle> same network configuration
#4634 [22:54] <xales> its not against the rules to take someone elses nick
#4635 [22:55] <xales> if they didn't register it
#4636 [22:55] <xales`> no but it makes you a fagqueer
#4637 [22:55] <Diablothein> he's got a point.
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#4639 [22:55] <aetherian> no, it's just a dick move
#4640 [22:55] <Anthro_Huskey> anyways i had one world delted after powering off my towe rdue to my graphics card over heating
#4641 [22:55] <xales> I'm only reacting ._.
#4642 [22:55] <Anthro_Huskey> i clicked to make a new world in its place and when i spawned i travled a lil and saw something extrermly odd
#4643 [22:56] <schnozzle> anybody else here have any other ideas?
#4644 [22:56] <Anthro_Huskey> its the internet and its just a fucking name get over move on and think of a cooler one
#4645 [22:57] <xales> Anthro_Huskey: he is gone
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#4647 [22:57] <Anthro_Huskey> oh srry i hate flamers
#4648 [22:57] <Anthro_Huskey> anyways i saw my castle i had built
#4649 [22:57] <Anthro_Huskey> in the old delted world i had just lsot
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#4651 [22:57] <Anthro_Huskey> same topography same placment of blocks eveyrthing
#4652 [22:58] <Anthro_Huskey> ok seriosuly the letter x is not as cool as you think it is
#4653 [22:58] <xales> if you want your name back
#4654 [22:58] <xales> you can apologize
#4655 [22:58] <xales> and I will consider giving it back
#4656 [22:58] <xav> i am sorry xales :(
#4657 [22:58] <xales> why are you sorry?
#4658 [22:58] <schnozzle> if no more ideas can some one direct me where i can troubleshoot more ideas
#4659 [22:58] <xales> for what
#4660 [22:59] <xales> schnozzle: try posting on the forums?
#4661 [22:59] <xav> I am sorry that I pissed you off
#4662 [22:59] <Anthro_Huskey> whats the problem snhozzle?
#4663 [22:59] <schnozzle> there down for some reason
#4664 [22:59] <xales> whatever
#4665 [22:59] <xales> you can have it back
#4666 [22:59] <xales> 22:59:54 -NickServ(services@esper.net)- Nickname xaviergmail has been unlinked from your nickname.
#4667 [23:00] <schnozzle> got it bye
#4668 [23:01] <aetherian> oh god
#4669 [23:01] <aetherian> this channel is making me queasy
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#4671 [23:01] <Xaviergmail> thanks
#4672 [23:01] <xales> spam me again though
#4673 [23:02] <xales> and see what happens
#4674 [23:02] <xales> .__.
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#4677 [23:02] <Anthro_Huskey> but yea its all still there
#4678 [23:02] <Anthro_Huskey> anyways zale i guess youd be the guy to talk to
#4679 [23:02] <Anthro_Huskey> xale*
#4680 [23:03] <xales> whats the problem?
#4681 [23:04] <Anthro_Huskey> i downlaoded a texture mod from the forums to make everything all zelda skined and such
#4682 [23:04] <Anthro_Huskey> not a client mod
#4683 [23:04] <Anthro_Huskey> and im just wondering how id go about making them work
#4684 [23:04] <xales> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_pack#Installation
#4685 [23:05] <Anthro_Huskey> hehe you rock -licks your cheek-
#4686 [23:05] <xales> lol
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#4688 [23:06] <Anthro_Huskey> -wags tail-
#4689 [23:07] <Anthro_Huskey> ok hold on i downloaded the file as a .rar file would that make a differance?
#4690 [23:07] <Anthro_Huskey> cuase in the avalible texture packs the one i downloaded still shows up but just doesnt work
#4691 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it needs to be a zip
#4692 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> when you place it in your texturepacks folder
#4693 [23:07] <Anthro_Huskey> how would i convert that?
#4694 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> extract, recompess into zip
#4695 [23:08] <Anthro_Huskey> <.<
#4696 [23:08] <Anthro_Huskey> >.>
#4697 [23:08] <Anthro_Huskey> ok ill try lol
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#4700 [23:10] <Anthro_Huskey> how would i go about compressing it?
#4701 [23:11] <xales> right click->send to->compressed (zipped) folder
#4702 [23:13] <Anthro_Huskey> still wont work for me
#4703 [23:14] <Anthro_Huskey> i knwo ti worked seeing as a few user posted how they liked it
#4704 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Could you post a link to the post, or the rar file?
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#4706 [23:19] <Dorolk> HELLO i need HELP!
#4707 [23:19] <Cial> with what
#4708 [23:20] <Dorolk> I run a server, i can log in, but my friend can't
#4709 [23:20] <Dorolk> We're in the same house
#4710 [23:20] <Dorolk> So it probably means we have same IP
#4711 [23:20] <Dorolk> He write the IP i use, he can't log in
#4712 [23:20] <Dorolk> He write the public IP, he can't log in
#4713 [23:20] <Cial> check to see if your ports are right then
#4714 [23:20] <Diablothein> Dorolk
#4715 [23:21] <Diablothein> You log in using the localhost IP: 127.0.0.1
#4716 [23:21] <Dorolk> If i can log in, doesn't it mean that my port are forwared allready?
#4717 [23:21] <xales> Cial: he is on the same network
#4718 [23:21] <xales> Dorolk: what IPs did you try to use
#4719 [23:21] <Cial> xales i know this but its still a different computer
#4720 [23:22] <Dorolk> I use 192.168.2.3:50500
#4721 [23:22] <xales> Cial: so? port forwarding is only for foreign connections
#4722 [23:22] <Anthro_Huskey> i can vulpine one sec
#4723 [23:22] <Cial> xales huh
#4724 [23:22] <Diablothein> try having him log on using 127.0.0.1 from his computer.
#4725 [23:22] * Cial + 1 networking skill
#4725 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#4726 [23:22] <xales> Diablothein: .______.
#4727 [23:22] <Dorolk> i'll make him try
#4728 [23:22] * GreyVulpine kicks Diablothein
#4728 [23:23] <Anthro_Huskey> why you kick him?
#4729 [23:23] <xales> lol
#4730 [23:23] * xales kicks Diablothein in the groin
#4730 [23:23] * Diablothein watches another cardboard cutout get knocked over
#4730 [23:23] <Diablothein> sheesh, people, stop destroying the cutouts...
#4731 [23:23] <Diablothein> they cost time and money to make.
#4732 [23:23] <Dorolk> Failed to connect to server
#4733 [23:23] <Dorolk> Didn't worked
#4734 [23:23] <xales> Dorolk: try the 192 one
#4735 [23:24] <xales> also, what is the IP of his computer
#4736 [23:24] <Dorolk> If he use the same ip i use, it doesnt work
#4737 [23:24] <xales> Dorolk: what is the IP of his computer
#4738 [23:24] <Dorolk> he got the same IP i have i think
#4739 [23:24] <xales> no he doesn't
#4740 [23:24] <xales> they have to be different
#4741 [23:25] <Dorolk> If i go to whatsmyip.us it shows the same IP for both computer (need confirmation but i'm pretty sure)
#4742 [23:25] <xales> not that IP
#4743 [23:25] <xales> how did you find the one that you use to connect
#4744 [23:25] <Dorolk> Wich IP so
#4745 [23:26] <Dorolk> run, cmd, ipconfig
#4746 [23:26] <xales> do that on his computer
#4747 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo Diablothein, reason I kicked you.
#4748 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> <Dorolk> I run a server, i can log in, but my friend can't
#4749 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> <Diablothein> try having him log on using 127.0.0.1 from his computer.
#4750 [23:28] <Dorolk> Failed to connect
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#4752 [23:28] <xales> Dorolk: what is the IP
#4753 [23:28] <Dorolk> He had 192.168.2.2
#4754 [23:28] <xales> for his computer
#4755 [23:29] <xales> do you have a firewall?
#4756 [23:29] <xales> on your computer
#4757 [23:29] <Dorolk> so he tried 192.168.2.2:50500
#4758 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> Is he running a server on his machine?
#4759 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> I'm confused
#4760 [23:29] <Dorolk> I'm runnign a server
#4761 [23:29] <Dorolk> From my machine
#4762 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> Then he should be connecting to you
#4763 [23:29] <Dorolk> My friend is in my house
#4764 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> Not himself
#4765 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> What is your computer's internal IP
#4766 [23:30] <Dorolk> 192.168.2.3
#4767 [23:30] <Dorolk> 192.168.2.3:50500 doesnt work
#4768 [23:30] <xales> do you have the port set to 50500
#4769 [23:30] <Dorolk> Yup
#4770 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> In server.properties
#4771 [23:30] <Dorolk> Yes
#4772 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Then, back to xales' question.
#4773 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a firewall on your computer?
#4774 [23:31] <Dorolk> Probly yes
#4775 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Could you check?
#4776 [23:31] <Dorolk> i'll try
#4777 [23:32] <Dorolk> well avira doenst seems to have a firewall integred
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#4780 [23:35] * Diablothein is away: There's cobblestone to be placed
#4780 [23:38] <Dorolk> well i got windows firewall like everyone LO
#4781 [23:42] <Diablothein> Windows sucks.
#4782 [23:42] <Diablothein> Jus' sayin.
#4783 [23:42] <Diablothein> That's why I don't use it :D
#4784 [23:42] * Diablothein is away: Back to building.
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#4785 [23:44] <Dorolk> well i know that
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#4787 [23:44] <Dorolk> doesnt help me tought
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#4791 [23:45] <sprog> can anyone help here
#4792 [23:46] <Cial> maybe what is it?
#4793 [23:46] <sprog> i want to buy minecraft with a visa gift card but it doesnt let me
#4794 [23:46] <Cial> paypal is being rather bad with gift cards
#4795 [23:47] <sprog> why?
#4796 [23:47] <Cial> i dunno
#4797 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> It's not that, many visa gift cards won't work with international purchases.
#4798 [23:47] <sprog> so what can i do
#4799 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> You'll have to talk to the gift card issuer.
#4800 [23:47] <sprog> which is
#4801 [23:47] <ShaRose> it might be printed on the card
#4802 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Look at the back of your gift card, should be a number
#4803 [23:48] <ShaRose> ^
#4804 [23:48] <sprog> okay
#4805 [23:48] <sprog> now
#4806 [23:50] <sprog> hello anybody here
#4807 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#4808 [23:51] <mib_1dgy3s> hey um
#4809 [23:51] <mib_1dgy3s> aanyone got the link page to start a server?
#4810 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> The page to the server file itself, or a tutorial?
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