#MinecraftHelp > 2011-01-02
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#3 [00:10] <Ganteka> Hello folks.
#4 [00:11] <aetherian> hello, you cold blooded murderer
#5 [00:11] <Ganteka> gasp! How did you know?
#6 [00:11] <aetherian> may you rot in the depth of your own despair
#7 [00:12] <Ganteka> My despair, it is unendingly deep.
#8 [00:12] <Ganteka> Oh, how I suffer with guilt
#9 [00:12] <aetherian> aww shaddup
#10 [00:12] <aetherian> anyway
#11 [00:12] <aetherian> hello
#12 [00:13] <aetherian> slashme away!
#13 [00:13] <Ganteka> So, I purchased Minecraft back on the 18th, but it never went worked out for me being able to actually play the game (the account was never activated). I sent an email to payment the next day but never heard back.
#14 [00:13] <Ganteka> It's been two weeks, so, should I send another email or just keep waiting?
#15 [00:14] <Ganteka> I figured I should ask before I up their workload potentially unnecessarily.
#16 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> CC it to notch@ and daniel@ as well
#17 [00:15] <Ganteka> Is there anything special I should note in the email other than account name?
#18 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> Account name, paypal transaction ID, email address.
#19 [00:16] <Ganteka> Ah, I paid via credit card. Will that matter?
#20 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> You didn't pay through paypal?
#21 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Did you receive any email confirmation at all?
#22 [00:19] <Ganteka> I did not receive an email from minecraft, but I did get a bunch of credit card confirmation screens and such
#23 [00:19] <Ganteka> I've had problems with getting automated emails before.
#24 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, it would probably help if you included some form of payment transaction id as well.
#25 [00:20] <Ganteka> I will see what I can look up then
#26 [00:21] <Ganteka> I really do appreciate the help by the way
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#29 [00:47] <Ganteka> Later folks.
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#31 [00:58] <genshou-sleeping> [22:17:00] <Ganteka> I've had problems with getting automated emails before. <--- do people these days even check their Spam folders when an automated email goes missing? xD
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#34 [01:04] <ConMan8> why can you there this
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#39 [01:24] <Fushigidane> I've encountered a problem trying to set up my server. I have 25565 forwarded on my router, but the port checker in the tutorial says it's closed. Any ideas?
#40 [01:24] <lemon-rev> whats the ip your trying to log into >?
#41 [01:24] <Fushigidane> My external address
#42 [01:25] <lemon-rev> !check
#43 [01:25] <lemon-rev> hm
#44 [01:25] <lemon-rev> your external address it needs to be your actual ip, www.whatsmyip.com
#45 [01:25] <lemon-rev> lol
#46 [01:25] <lemon-rev> not come
#47 [01:25] <lemon-rev> .org
#48 [01:25] <lemon-rev> doh
#49 [01:26] <Fushigidane> yeah it's the one i'm using
#50 [01:26] <lemon-rev> well if you have port forwared your internal ip to 25565 that ip that comes up on that site should work, unless its something else hm
#51 [01:27] <Fushigidane> no firewall is up, btw
#52 [01:28] <lemon-rev> paste your ip in here, you can !check <>ip with the bot with out the <>
#53 [01:28] <Fushigidane> !check 96.42.55.254
#54 [01:28] <lemon-rev> hm
#55 [01:28] <lemon-rev> double check your port forward adress < brb t break
#56 [01:31] <Fushigidane> Well, my router doesn't let you put in your external IP when port forwarding, just the IP the computer is on the router, but yes it's the correct ip (192.168.1.2)
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#58 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to the router's status page, and paste the WAN ip it says it has here?
#59 [01:34] <Fushigidane> That's be the external ip, right?
#60 [01:35] <Fushigidane> 96.42.55.254
#61 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> Does it match up with the external?
#62 [01:35] <Fushigidane> oh, uh, lemme check how to find it. im not used to using netgear
#63 [01:36] <lemon-rev> cmd ipconfig
#64 [01:36] <lemon-rev> start / run / cmd
#65 [01:36] <Fushigidane> Wirless LAN?
#66 [01:37] <lemon-rev> wireless lan if your connected by cable your 192.168.1.2 is i belive the connection stright to your box
#67 [01:37] <lemon-rev> correct,
#68 [01:37] <Fushigidane> yeah im wireless, and it's 192.168.1.2
#69 [01:37] <lemon-rev> so thats the ip of the box and doesnt need to be added to your portforwarded < your ipconfig ip needs to be added thats your internal ip,
#70 [01:37] <lemon-rev> then
#71 [01:38] <lemon-rev> use the whatsmyip.org site to connect to your server
#72 [01:38] <Fushigidane> it is
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#74 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Could you screenshot the port forwarding page of the router for us? upload it to imageshack/photobucket/imgur
#75 [01:38] <lemon-rev> then it should be working
#76 [01:40] <Fushigidane> http://tinypic.com/r/jryblg/7
#77 [01:41] <Fushigidane> ignore the age of empires thing, that's just to add a service
#78 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> I know
#79 [01:42] <genshou> Hrm, strip mining isn't a very effective way to get resources, but it sure creates nice holes for large-scale cobblestone factories :D
#80 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> Along the left side, under the Maintenance heading, could you go to router status, make sure the internet/wan/public ip matches whatismyip.com
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#82 [01:43] <aetherian> genshou: strip mine then load 'er up with TnT
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#84 [01:43] <Diablothein> GENSHOU! I REMEMBERED!
#85 [01:43] <Diablothein> XD
#86 [01:43] <genshou> Actually I was thinking make a lava flow nearly 128 blocks long with a water flow design that goes around it :)
#87 [01:43] <aetherian> gasp?
#88 [01:43] <aetherian> psht
#89 [01:43] <lemon-rev> too much work when going with tnt and btw useing tnt if theres resources around then you have a chance of loosing that too with the hole you create
#90 [01:43] <aetherian> nah, gen, tnt is better
#91 [01:43] <Diablothein> The cloud idea, snow would work, I left a few snow blocks up today while mob harvesting, they didn't melt after 2 hours.
#92 [01:44] <Fushigidane> Yeah, it matches
#93 [01:44] <aetherian> that way you find resources around the area
#94 [01:44] <genshou> Diablothein, but what if I have torches in my house a few blocks above the floating snow
#95 [01:44] <aetherian> who need cobble
#96 [01:44] <Diablothein> Lemme try it out.
#97 [01:44] <Fushigidane> Would it be easier to just connect directly?
#98 [01:44] <Fushigidane> Because that is an option
#99 [01:44] <Fushigidane> as opposed to using wireless, i mean
#100 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> Fushigidane - Then the problem lies on the computer itself, make sure your security software lets in connections
#101 [01:44] <genshou> aetherian, I need a lot of cobble when making a 1km long arch bridge ;x
#102 [01:45] <Fushigidane> it does, I even have a 3rd party software taht allows for remote connections
#103 [01:45] <genshou> at cloud level ._.
#104 [01:45] <Diablothein> alright, torch, block, block, snow?
#105 [01:45] * genshou nods
#105 [01:45] <genshou> So you have to be careful how low you hang your torches/lava decorations
#106 [01:46] <genshou> for fear of melting the cloud xD
#107 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> Fushigidane - What OS?
#108 [01:46] <aetherian> genshou:just mine regular rock
#109 [01:46] <Fushigidane> Windows 7
#110 [01:46] <aetherian> it's quicker
#111 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> Also, what security software?
#112 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> Did you make sure windows firewall lets in port 25565 as wel?
#113 [01:46] <Fushigidane> None. I like to keep myself vulnerable
#114 [01:47] <aetherian> ooh
#115 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Then, have you let anybody else try and connect
#116 [01:47] <Fushigidane> Through minecraft or otherwise?
#117 [01:47] <genshou> doesn't take very long to mine a cobblestone pillar straight down, aetherian ;)
#118 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> into your minecraft classic server
#119 [01:47] <Fushigidane> no but i can post the external address if you're willing to try
#120 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> If you wish.
#121 [01:47] <genshou> set up two or three generators near each other and you can always be digging one while the other(s) rebuild ;)
#122 [01:47] <Fushigidane> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=589ab36601e7b53f3bb4e0b8cc24cdb2
#123 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Server up?
#124 [01:48] <Fushigidane> yep
#125 [01:48] <Diablothein> It has yet to melt it.
#126 [01:48] <genshou> Certainly not hard to get stone while mining for other resources, but eventually I run out of even that when doing massive building projects.
#127 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> Fushigidane - I'm unable to connect
#128 [01:49] <aetherian> me too
#129 [01:49] <Diablothein> genshou, I just lit up a block with torches, it's still alive, 1 minute.
#130 [01:49] <Fushigidane> yeah the prompt tells me nothings changed
#131 [01:49] <genshou> Lit up a block of snow?
#132 [01:50] <Diablothein> mhm, put torches on all 5 faces available.
#133 [01:50] <genshou> coolness
#134 [01:50] <genshou> too bad snow and wool are both so painstaking to gather ><;
#135 [01:50] <aetherian> are not!
#136 [01:50] <Diablothein> Now all six are.
#137 [01:50] <aetherian> wool, a little
#138 [01:50] <aetherian> but not snow!
#139 [01:50] <Fushigidane> im gonna connect directly and see if that changed anyhting
#140 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Fushigidane - You're absolutely sure all software security lets in 25565/TCP and/or java
#141 [01:51] <Fushigidane> yeah there's nothing set up to stop it
#142 [01:52] <Diablothein> genshou, it's not that hard, all you have to do is hit it 4 covers with a shovel, bam, there's one block.
#143 [01:52] <aetherian> someone slap me
#144 [01:53] <aetherian> I forgot about my paper that's due in a couple days
#145 [01:53] <aetherian> few days?
#146 [01:53] <aetherian> hmm
#147 [01:53] <genshou> Snow doesn't regenerate, unless it's been fixed in beta
#148 [01:54] <Diablothein> hadn't checked.
#149 [01:54] <Diablothein> Nice...
#150 [01:54] <Diablothein> aetherian, what about?
#151 [01:54] <aetherian> a guy.
#152 [01:55] <Diablothein> Which?
#153 [01:55] <aetherian> the other one.
#154 [01:59] <Fushigidane> blarg. got stuff to do. ill try to fix it some other time
#155 [01:59] <Fushigidane> thanks for the help though
#156 [02:05] <Diablothein> Ahh go choke a chicken.
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#158 [02:06] * aetherian chokes chicken (Diablothein)
#158 [02:06] <Diablothein> Ahh, but I'm not a chicken.
#159 [02:06] <aetherian> *Diablothein is now dead
#160 [02:06] <aetherian> says who
#161 [02:08] <Diablothein> My non-chicken DNA.
#162 [02:08] * aetherian checks
#162 [02:08] <aetherian> my bad
#163 [02:09] <aetherian> turkey
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#165 [02:09] <Diablothein> Nor turkey.
#166 [02:09] <dragontech90> hey i ned help ppl
#167 [02:09] <aetherian> what is this
#168 [02:09] <dragontech90> on seting server up
#169 [02:09] <aetherian> tarzan or summat?
#170 [02:09] <aetherian> me ned. you ppl.
#171 [02:10] <dragontech90> its saying java is not recogized as internam or external command
#172 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> OS?
#173 [02:10] <aetherian> then download it?
#174 [02:10] <dragontech90> it is atomatic in my pc
#175 [02:10] <aetherian> mmhmm
#176 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> What OS?
#177 [02:10] <dragontech90> i play lots of games with java
#178 [02:10] <dragontech90> windows 7
#179 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> Need to input it manually into your environment variables
#180 [02:11] <dragontech90> umm tell me how plz lol
#181 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> First, go to your control panel. Look for the java app
#182 [02:11] <genshou> =_=
#183 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Click on it, go to the java tab at the top.
#184 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Click on "view"
#185 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Look for a path column
#186 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Copy/paste that line here
#187 [02:13] <dragontech90> C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe
#188 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Okay, you can close that now
#189 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, right click on Computer. Go to properties
#190 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Along the left side should be "Advanced system settings", click on that
#191 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Then, click on the environment variables button
#192 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> The bottom panel should be system variables, I think
#193 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Look for a "PATH" variable
#194 [02:15] <dragontech90> nti path
#195 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#196 [02:15] <dragontech90> ahh nvm got it
#197 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Could you paste that here?
#198 [02:16] <dragontech90> %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\
#199 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Okay
#200 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\
#201 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> It should now look like that
#202 [02:17] <dragontech90> so copy and paste urs?
#203 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#204 [02:18] <dragontech90> ok
#205 [02:18] <genshou> According to the wiki, mobs spawn "no closer" to the player than 24 blocks. How far away do they spawn? All the way out to the 4-chunk limit?
#206 [02:19] <aetherian> ...
#207 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> dragontech90 - Can you pull up a new command prompt and do "java -version" ?
#208 [02:20] <genshou> just curious as I am considering building a fenced-in ranch completely covered in torches, with convenient 2-block cliffs and water flow in the centre to "encourage" animals to come visit me in the middle :)
#209 [02:21] <dragontech90> umm whats teh camandline
#210 [02:21] <genshou> (I'm looking to gather wool)
#211 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Uh
#212 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> dragontech90 - Go to start and type in the search bar: cmd
#213 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> that'll pull up the command prompt
#214 [02:21] <dragontech90> i have cmd
#215 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Type in: java -version
#216 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Make sure it's working now
#217 [02:21] <dragontech90> its oppen
#218 [02:21] <dragontech90> itis
#219 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Alright then
#220 [02:23] <aetherian> hi observer
#221 [02:23] <aetherian> what be up with ye
#222 [02:24] <dragontech90> how i get java version
#223 [02:24] <dragontech90> info
#224 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Didn't you just do that?
#225 [02:25] <dragontech90> umm
#226 [02:25] <dragontech90> i thoght it was more that typeing in java
#227 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> By typing in "java -version" at the command prompt
#228 [02:25] <dragontech90> is not
#229 [02:25] <dragontech90> it says teh same
#230 [02:26] <aetherian> sigh
#231 [02:26] <dragontech90> i know
#232 [02:26] <aetherian> ............
#233 [02:26] <dragontech90> haveing a emachines suck
#234 [02:26] <aetherian> I was sighing at the corruption of the word "the"
#235 [02:26] <dragontech90> idk why i do that
#236 [02:26] <aetherian> and now I facepalm
#237 [02:26] <dragontech90> its a habbit
#238 [02:27] <dragontech90> i try and type the
#239 [02:27] <aetherian> at the word haveing
#240 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> dragontech90 - Did you close and relaunch a NEW command prompt?
#241 [02:27] <dragontech90> but left hand dont do what brain says
#242 [02:27] <dragontech90> yes
#243 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> and "java -version" still doesn't work?
#244 [02:27] <dragontech90> uhh hold on
#245 [02:28] <dragontech90> sorry i was trying rong one :P
#246 [02:28] <dragontech90> 1.6.0_22
#247 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> There you go
#248 [02:28] <dragontech90> 1.6.0_22-b04 is runtime
#249 [02:29] <dragontech90> so the link it gives me in mine ?
#250 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#251 [02:30] <dragontech90> the web link
#252 [02:30] <dragontech90> in teh cmd
#253 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> ?
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#255 [02:31] <dragontech90> ill go and read the read me file
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#257 [02:34] <aetherian> poke poke
#258 [02:37] * aetherian speedpokes everyone in #minecrafthelp
#258 [02:37] <aetherian> huff puff
#259 [02:37] <aetherian> wheez
#260 [02:37] <aetherian> okay
#261 [02:37] <aetherian> that's it for me
#262 [02:37] <aetherian> I'm off to bed
#263 [02:43] <dragontech90> umm what program i use to edit server propertys
#264 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> notepad
#265 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> drag and drop
#266 [02:46] <dragontech90> ok
#267 [02:50] <dragontech90> under that info on ingame ops copy and paste teh rest?
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#269 [02:53] <genshou> My dishwasher is evil.
#270 [02:53] <genshou> As a test, I put a load of clean dishes in. They came out dirty. :O
#271 [02:53] <PineappleBoy> i have a question - how do you make glass?
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#273 [02:55] <dragontech90> >.> i can do ipconfig
#274 [02:55] <dragontech90> whaa
#275 [02:57] <genshou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Glass
#276 [03:00] <PineappleBoy> ok thanks
#277 [03:01] <dragontech90> hey gryvulp
#278 [03:01] <dragontech90> greyvulp*
#279 [03:01] <dragontech90> umm i cant do any cmd camand lines
#280 [03:01] <dragontech90> any help on fixing that?
#281 [03:02] <genshou> v.v
#282 [03:02] <dragontech90> even typeing in the word help wont work
#283 [03:04] <Diablothein> Sorry, no dice here, I'm a Linux
#284 [03:06] <dragontech90> >.>
#285 [03:06] <dragontech90> lol
#286 [03:10] <dragontech90> hello
#287 [03:10] <dragontech90> any one home
#288 [03:10] <dragontech90> >.>
#289 [03:11] <ConMan8> no
#290 [03:11] <dragontech90> i need cmd help
#291 [03:11] <dragontech90> it wont work right
#292 [03:12] <dragontech90> even typeing in help wont work
#293 [03:12] <ConMan8> cmd
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#296 [03:12] <dragontech90> its saying its not a internal or external comand
#297 [03:12] <dragontech90> on every thing
#298 [03:13] <dragontech90> even ipconfig
#299 [03:13] <dragontech90> even netstat
#300 [03:13] <clone1018> Reinstall windows
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#302 [03:14] <dragontech90> hey
#303 [03:14] <dragontech90> ellie
#304 [03:14] <Ellie> hey'a
#305 [03:15] <dragontech90> u tech person
#306 [03:15] <dragontech90> >.>
#307 [03:15] <dragontech90> cuse cmd is not working now
#308 [03:15] <Ellie> what error is it giving you?
#309 [03:15] <Ellie> or it just unresponsive?
#310 [03:16] <dragontech90> prety mutch err not internal or external comand
#311 [03:16] <dragontech90> even typeing help dose that
#312 [03:17] <Ellie> alright, what are you trying to execute, and what it your current directory?
#313 [03:17] <Ellie> oh, hmm
#314 [03:17] <Ellie> what OS are you on?
#315 [03:18] <dragontech90> well i went back just now and changed the path in the system propertys to
#316 [03:18] <dragontech90> %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\
#317 [03:18] <dragontech90> and now it works
#318 [03:18] <Ellie> so your enviroment variables were missing .. that's messed up
#319 [03:22] <dragontech90> lol
#320 [03:22] <dragontech90> i had to change it to work on server
#321 [03:22] <dragontech90> for me and frind
#322 [03:23] <dragontech90> and no one said to change it back
#323 [03:23] <dragontech90> now im working on geting my server port nums
#324 [03:23] <dragontech90> and i looked up and it said do netstat
#325 [03:23] <Ellie> oh no, just add what they said to the -end- of the current path
#326 [03:23] <Ellie> not replace
#327 [03:23] <dragontech90> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#328 [03:23] <dragontech90> he did not say that
#329 [03:23] <Ellie> and put a ; between their entry and the current one
#330 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> I told him to do:
#331 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\
#332 [03:24] <Ellie> ah, so java didn't add to path? that's a bit funny
#333 [03:24] <dragontech90> >.>
#334 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#335 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Happens all the time
#336 [03:24] <dragontech90> oh ty for late info >.<
#337 [03:24] <Ellie> ack
#338 [03:25] <dragontech90> hold on it no big deal
#339 [03:26] <dragontech90> space;space then code
#340 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> No spaces between ;
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#342 [03:26] <Ellie> ..? I don't follow
#343 [03:26] <Z3r05t4r> ohaio
#344 [03:26] <Z3r05t4r> its me again :3
#345 [03:26] <dragontech90> ni hao
#346 [03:27] <dragontech90> ok how i get my server nums
#347 [03:27] <Z3r05t4r> you servers what?
#348 [03:27] <dragontech90> i looked it up and it said do netstat -o
#349 [03:27] <dragontech90> or -0
#350 [03:27] <Ellie> do -o (the first one you said)
#351 [03:27] <dragontech90> ok
#352 [03:28] <dragontech90> now witch set of nums lol
#353 [03:28] <dragontech90> ad
#354 [03:28] <dragontech90> ahhhh
#355 [03:29] <dragontech90> site says
#356 [03:29] <dragontech90> Examine the list to find the port associated with the type of data exchange for which you want the port number.
#357 [03:29] <dragontech90> Read more: How to Find a Port Number | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_5195834_port-number.html#ixzz19rfyoKLQ
#358 [03:30] <dragontech90> oops
#359 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> What exactly are you trying to do dragontech90?
#360 [03:30] <dragontech90> well he sai d look for what u need in that >.>
#361 [03:30] <dragontech90> umm idk what i need all i know is server port number
#362 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> Default port is 25565, unless you changed it in server.properties
#363 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> What type of server?
#364 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> Classic or beta?
#365 [03:31] <dragontech90> 0.o no
#366 [03:31] <dragontech90> clasic
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#368 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> So, nobody can connect?
#369 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> Did you port forward?
#370 [03:33] <dragontech90> it has no server info on it
#371 [03:33] <dragontech90> ummm >.>
#372 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#373 [03:33] <dragontech90> im flying blind
#374 [03:33] <dragontech90> ive been doing what read me said lol
#375 [03:35] <dragontech90> in teh externalurl it says
#376 [03:35] <dragontech90> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=39840d880815f14903e7cb9bd7ee024b
#377 [03:35] <GreyVulpine> Right....
#378 [03:36] <dragontech90> load 0/16
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#381 [03:36] <dragontech90> but idk were seting up the world comes in
#382 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> When you launch the start-server.bat file, it should run the server
#383 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> when you run the server, it should create the world.
#384 [03:37] <dragontech90> ok
#385 [03:37] <dragontech90> im testing it now
#386 [03:38] <dragontech90> site said server down
#387 [03:38] <dragontech90> >.>
#388 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> Did you port forward?
#389 [03:38] <dragontech90> how u do that >.>
#390 [03:40] <lemon-rev> do you know how to connect to your router
#391 [03:40] <lemon-rev> if you have one
#392 [03:40] <dragontech90> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=192.168.2.3&port=25565 ?
#393 [03:41] <dragontech90> 0.o
#394 [03:41] <lemon-rev> no thats your hm
#395 [03:41] <dragontech90> hm?
#396 [03:41] <lemon-rev> 192.168 < is usually say router
#397 [03:41] <dragontech90> umm
#398 [03:41] <lemon-rev> connect to your router and see if its got a port forwarding
#399 [03:41] <lemon-rev> section
#400 [03:42] <dragontech90> so do a ipconfig?
#401 [03:42] <lemon-rev> ipconfig < gives you internal ip
#402 [03:42] <lemon-rev> and yes you need that
#403 [03:42] <lemon-rev> for the port forwarding
#404 [03:44] <dragontech90> ok so look for the wort ports
#405 [03:45] <dragontech90> word
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#407 [03:46] <Solvius> goooood morning :)
#408 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> Mornin' Gov'na
#409 [03:47] <dragontech90> umm what i look for now
#410 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> ipconfig, tell us your ip address and default gateway
#411 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> (or ipv4 address)
#412 [03:48] <dragontech90> ok
#413 [03:48] <dragontech90> and i need to set up port fowrding
#414 [03:48] <dragontech90> how i get that
#415 [03:49] <lemon-rev> in your router there should be somewhere you can put down say minecraft tell it your ipconfig ip and port and save the option
#416 [03:49] <dragontech90> its on lock down mom had pass lol
#417 [03:49] <dragontech90> this sucks
#418 [03:49] <dragontech90> andi would have to do it off my bros pc
#419 [03:50] <dragontech90> to put that info in
#420 [03:50] <dragontech90> and i have belkin
#421 [03:50] <lemon-rev> so did you get your mum to type the pass in so you could put that crap in or what ?
#422 [03:50] <dragontech90> she sleaping
#423 [03:50] <lemon-rev> hm
#424 [03:50] <dragontech90> its like almost 1 am
#425 [03:50] <lemon-rev> well i guess you just going to have to wait till tomrrow
#426 [03:51] <dragontech90> i know whaaa lol jkl
#427 [03:51] <dragontech90> jk
#428 [03:52] <dragontech90> so would what i need to look for to put the info in
#429 [03:52] <lemon-rev> i have told you about 3 times now
#430 [03:53] <dragontech90> look for s spot to put info in
#431 [03:53] <dragontech90> that dont help
#432 [03:53] <lemon-rev> look for the option that says
#433 [03:53] <lemon-rev> PORT FORWARDING
#434 [03:53] <dragontech90> okay that help me
#435 [03:53] <lemon-rev> and that should be where you put info in
#436 [03:53] <lemon-rev> when you do
#437 [03:53] <lemon-rev> you save
#438 [03:53] <lemon-rev> and log out
#439 [03:53] <lemon-rev> and your up
#440 [03:53] <lemon-rev> doh
#441 [03:54] <dragontech90> ok thaky you
#442 [04:03] <dragontech90> how u blow up tnt
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#444 [04:03] <genshou> what, cheapness :v
#445 [04:03] <genshou> Found a dungeon, no chest to give me random saddles
#446 [04:03] <dragontech90> lol
#447 [04:03] <genshou> At least it was a spider dungeon (I need massive amounts of wool)
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#449 [04:04] <dragontech90> lol
#450 [04:04] <dragontech90> so how u blwo up tnt
#451 [04:04] <genshou> punch it or provide it power
#452 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> Also, TNT only works in alpha/beta
#453 [04:05] <dragontech90> how u do power
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#455 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> With redstone dust
#456 [04:05] <dragontech90> ok
#457 [04:05] <genshou> with a redstone torch, pressure plate, button, or switch
#458 [04:05] <genshou> (and redstone wiring if you need some distance)
#459 [04:06] * genshou wants to test out a launch pad for getting up into his sky castle once it's built :D
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#460 [04:07] <genshou> Requires a non-renewable resource (sand) but it's a lot more fun than using a boat elevator.
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#462 [04:10] <dragontech90> ok and how i get those
#463 [04:10] <nidefawl> a
#464 [04:11] <dragontech90> a what
#465 [04:12] <dragontech90> >.>
#466 [04:13] <lemon-rev> drgaontech look for youtube and look it up
#467 [04:13] <dragontech90> ok
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#472 [04:47] <dragontech90> um youtube dont help mutch
#473 [04:47] <dragontech90> all it shows is ppl blowing things up
#474 [04:48] <dragontech90> not how to
#475 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> All it takes is a punch, or an electrical signal
#476 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't work in classic
#477 [04:48] <dragontech90> well if i would have known
#478 [04:48] <dragontech90> >.>
#479 [04:49] <dragontech90> how mutch is full game
#480 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> 15 euros
#481 [04:50] <dragontech90> usd
#482 [04:50] <dragontech90> ?
#483 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> About 20 bucks USD
#484 [04:50] <dragontech90> not bad
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#486 [05:05] <eRAZER> guys
#487 [05:18] <Solvius> How do I start ipconfig in windows 7 64 bit ?
#488 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> start -> type in search bar: cmd
#489 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> then ipconfig at the command prompt
#490 [05:18] <Solvius> I try
#491 [05:19] <Solvius> I get a setup.ipx file in a short list ?
#492 [05:19] <Solvius> .inx srry
#493 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#494 [05:20] <Solvius> start, and then thesearch... right ?
#495 [05:20] <GreyVulpine> In the search bar at the bottom, type in: cmd
#496 [05:20] <GreyVulpine> Then hit enter
#497 [05:20] <GreyVulpine> A black command prompt window will pop up
#498 [05:20] <GreyVulpine> In that window, you type in: ipconfig
#499 [05:20] <Solvius> then I get a short list, with setup.inx and a shortcut to log in on paypal
#500 [05:21] <Solvius> no window pops up
#501 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> Okay, let's try a different method
#502 [05:21] <Solvius> ok
#503 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a windows key on your keyboard?
#504 [05:21] <Solvius> yes
#505 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> Hit Windows+R
#506 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> That'll bring up the run command
#507 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> then type in: cmd
#508 [05:22] <Solvius> rstart menu opens
#509 [05:22] <Solvius> start menu that is
#510 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> Windows+R brings up the start menu?
#511 [05:22] <Solvius> no run command
#512 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> Not a "Run" command?
#513 [05:22] <Solvius> see above :)
#514 [05:22] * GreyVulpine blinks
#514 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> What sort of crappy windows did you get?
#515 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> Okay um
#516 [05:23] <Solvius> win 7 64 bit :)
#517 [05:23] <Ellie> rofl
#518 [05:23] <Solvius> I hate bill to, but thats another discussion :D
#519 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> Another method then?
#520 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> Right click on your desktop
#521 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> Go to "new", then "shortcut"
#522 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> In the location, just type cmd
#523 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> Then next
#524 [05:24] <Solvius> i try wait a sec
#525 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> since when did win7 totally screw up win+R...
#526 [05:25] * GreyVulpine goes to look that u
#526 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> p
#527 [05:25] <Solvius> it works, thnx :)
#528 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> Heh, okay then
#529 [05:26] <Solvius> U better ask, what didn't windows screw up :)
#530 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#531 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> There's a reason I'm still using winXP
#532 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Absolutely hate vista on my laptop
#533 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Dread moving to 7
#534 [05:26] <Solvius> this came with the computer, and I am lazy
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#539 [05:44] <Solvius> its difficult to make a static IP adress :(
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#541 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> Not really...
#542 [05:45] <Solvius> for me it is, my forst time ever :)
#543 [05:45] <Solvius> *i
#544 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> What problems are you having?
#545 [05:51] <Solvius> at the moment none, I am studying it
#546 [05:54] <Solvius> I see that my computer has automatic IP adres and dns
#547 [05:54] <Solvius> so I have no idea what my ISP is using for dns
#548 [05:55] <Solvius> and no idea what I will fill in at the IP numbers thingie
#549 [05:56] <Solvius> So, If I change something, and it downst work, then I can everything put back on automatic and it works again then ?
#550 [05:57] <Solvius> I gonna call my ISP :)
#551 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> Solvius - check your router
#552 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> It should have all that information for you
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#554 [06:04] <Solvius> i have one
#555 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> Go to its status page
#556 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> It should have all your DNS info there
#557 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, you don't have to use your ISP's DNS servers, there's plenty of other free DNS address you could use
#558 [06:05] <Solvius> wait a sec i am on the phone now, and my wife picks this moment to ask some things :)
#559 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> No problem
#560 [06:11] <Solvius> grin I phoned the ISP for problem solving, got a girl on the line who has to ask everything at someone else lol
#561 [06:11] <Solvius> now I got a service number to call :)
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#563 [06:12] <Solvius> and they are closed lol
#564 [06:13] <Solvius> but I know now that my ISP gives me one dns number and no alternative one
#565 [06:13] <Solvius> isnt life sweet :)
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#567 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't matter
#568 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> Like I said before, your router should have your ISP's DNS server info
#569 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, you can use one of MANY different free DNS servers out there
#570 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> http://www.opendns.com/
#571 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/
#572 [06:17] <Solvius> ho mate, not to fast :) I am a noob at this things :)
#573 [06:18] <Solvius> it asks for a name and a password, admin and admin is not correct lol
#574 [06:18] <Solvius> its just standard bought and never temperd with, I never put one in, so a idea what the factory has used ?
#575 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> netgear router you said??
#576 [06:19] <Solvius> cisoc linksys
#577 [06:19] <Solvius> cisco
#578 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> try "admin" for the password only
#579 [06:19] <Solvius> wrt54g2
#580 [06:19] <Solvius> ok
#581 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#582 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Just admin for password
#583 [06:19] <Solvius> no seccus :)
#584 [06:19] <Solvius> succes lol
#585 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> Bwah?
#586 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> You left the username blank, right?
#587 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> and just - admin - for the password?
#588 [06:20] <Solvius> yes
#589 [06:21] <Solvius> I mean I cant log in to my router :)
#590 [06:21] <Solvius> it allways happens on a weekend day :D
#591 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> I have the same router
#592 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> and "admin" was default
#593 [06:22] <Solvius> well, I have no idae, got to call them tommorow
#594 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> There's a button on the back of the router
#595 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> small
#596 [06:22] <dragontech90> lol have fun
#597 [06:22] <dragontech90> this 2
#598 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> You can press that, hold it in, and it'll reset back to fact. default
#599 [06:22] <dragontech90> >.> listen to him
#600 [06:23] <dragontech90> i had to do it to brige dsl and wifi
#601 [06:24] <Solvius> if I go offline and do not return I will find you GreyVulpine :D
#602 [06:24] <dragontech90> dumb q
#603 [06:24] <dragontech90> if u buy game
#604 [06:24] <dragontech90> and have a frind as admin as well
#605 [06:24] <dragontech90> can they do what ever
#606 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Define: "what ever"
#607 [06:25] <dragontech90> when they on clasic
#608 [06:25] <dragontech90> like
#609 [06:25] <dragontech90> have same admin rights
#610 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#611 [06:25] <dragontech90> ok
#612 [06:25] <dragontech90> brake unbrakeables
#613 [06:25] <dragontech90> or no
#614 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> Not sure
#615 [06:26] <dragontech90> ok
#616 [06:27] <dragontech90> now i have a goal in life lmao
#617 [06:27] <dragontech90> buy a house were fiber optics r
#618 [06:27] <Solvius> well, I have pushed that little button with a ballpoint and it resetted, and stil I cant log in ?
#619 [06:27] <dragontech90> make a goood server and go nuts lol
#620 [06:27] <Toh> hmm
#621 [06:28] <dragontech90> ok
#622 [06:28] <dragontech90> u push
#623 [06:28] <dragontech90> then turn off
#624 [06:28] <Toh> why theres huge lag/crash when i enable spawning mobs?
#625 [06:28] <dragontech90> ur internet relay
#626 [06:28] <Toh> any way to fix? just turn off spawn mobs?
#627 [06:28] <dragontech90> yea
#628 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> Solvius - Did you hold it in for a few seconds?
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#630 [06:28] <Toh> its my internet fault? or..
#631 [06:28] <dragontech90> toh when u do lots of mobs they lagg ur pc
#632 [06:28] <Toh> something wrong with server program?
#633 [06:28] <Solvius> two or so, does it need to be longer ?
#634 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> It needs to be longer
#635 [06:29] <Toh> well.. but mobs make game fun
#636 [06:29] <Solvius> estimate ?
#637 [06:29] <Solvius> 10 secs ?
#638 [06:29] <Toh> no way to spawn them without crush or lag?
#639 [06:29] <dragontech90> no toh depends on the server u have and internet speed
#640 [06:29] <Toh> ook : )
#641 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> 5 - 10 seconds or so
#642 [06:30] <dragontech90> if server is ur pc dont do toooo much detale
#643 [06:30] <Solvius> ok
#644 [06:30] <Toh> hmm
#645 [06:30] <dragontech90> cuse ur ps have to send to site then u have to load off site and every one else that plays
#646 [06:30] <Toh> ok wait
#647 [06:32] <Toh> intel core 2 quad q8300, 8gb ram and some hard.. and nvidia 9600gt
#648 [06:32] <dragontech90> ok
#649 [06:32] <Toh> and using win7 32bit
#650 [06:32] <dragontech90> ill explane it as best as i can
#651 [06:33] <Toh> >.<
#652 [06:33] <dragontech90> when ur server send teh game data to the web site it go as fast as ur inter net will let it
#653 [06:33] <dragontech90> and ur pc will take the data as fast it will go
#654 [06:34] <dragontech90> now with both pc and server useing ur internet it will slow down ur internet
#655 [06:34] <dragontech90> and
#656 [06:34] <Toh> oh i miss something..
#657 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#658 [06:34] <dragontech90> more ppl you have the slower your server loads the data
#659 [06:34] <Toh> i got 4~5 mb/s download and upload
#660 [06:34] <Toh> hmm
#661 [06:35] <dragontech90> you kinda over work your internet if you have to mutch mobs or to many relms
#662 [06:35] <Toh> 4mb or 5 mb isnt enough?
#663 [06:35] <dragontech90> and to many gests alowed to visit
#664 [06:35] <dragontech90> ummm
#665 [06:35] <Toh> not mbps >.<
#666 [06:36] <Toh> ok what u trying to say is
#667 [06:36] <dragontech90> how old is ur pc
#668 [06:36] <Toh> ah
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#670 [06:36] <dragontech90> if its old and have lots of things on it no
#671 [06:36] <Toh> well around 1year~2 year
#672 [06:37] <Toh> but i think i have enough computer resource >.<
#673 [06:37] <dragontech90> if you have alot on ur pc it will go as fast as ur pc
#674 [06:37] <Toh> hmm...
#675 [06:38] <dragontech90> you want essy expanleing
#676 [06:38] <Toh> nah i got it
#677 [06:38] <dragontech90> ok
#678 [06:38] <Toh> ook i noticed why
#679 [06:38] <Toh> i was downloading something...
#680 [06:38] <dragontech90> lol
#681 [06:39] <Toh> lol
#682 [06:39] <Toh> and it have
#683 [06:39] <dragontech90> wow
#684 [06:39] <Toh> most of my internet resource
#685 [06:39] <dragontech90> a tip
#686 [06:39] <dragontech90> when u are hosteing ur server
#687 [06:39] <Toh> didnt noticed : (
#688 [06:39] <dragontech90> only have the necsisty going
#689 [06:39] <dragontech90> one download at a time
#690 [06:39] <dragontech90> or one game
#691 [06:40] <Toh> lol yeah
#692 [06:40] * GreyVulpine eyerolls.
#692 [06:40] <dragontech90> lol
#693 [06:40] <dragontech90> sorry i took ur job
#694 [06:40] <Toh> k
#695 [06:40] <Toh> w/e
#696 [06:40] <Toh> thx for help
#697 [06:40] <dragontech90> later
#698 [06:41] <dragontech90> sorry greyvulpine
#699 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Oh please, I have a server that's acts as a router, has tons of downloads going through it, and I can still serve up minecraft just fine.
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#701 [06:41] <dragontech90> 0.o what type of phone line u have in ur town
#702 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> phone line?
#703 [06:42] <Toh> ..
#704 [06:42] <dragontech90> yes
#705 [06:42] <Toh> phone line?
#706 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> Since when do people still use that?
#707 [06:42] <Toh> r u serious
#708 [06:42] <Toh> i used it like
#709 [06:42] <Toh> 10 years ago >.<
#710 [06:42] <dragontech90> omm dsl use phone lines
#711 [06:42] <Toh> well yeah
#712 [06:42] <dragontech90> inter net use phone cable satalite fiberoptics
#713 [06:42] <Toh> theres still some ADSL and VDSL
#714 [06:42] <dragontech90> and more
#715 [06:42] <dragontech90> true
#716 [06:43] <dragontech90> the new phone lines r best
#717 [06:43] <dragontech90> fiberoptic holy cow
#718 [06:43] <dragontech90> super fast
#719 [06:43] <Toh> im using FTTH
#720 [06:43] <Toh> >.<
#721 [06:43] <dragontech90> ftth dont know that one
#722 [06:44] <Toh> ADSL is around
#723 [06:44] <Toh> 100kb/s~500kb/s maybe
#724 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> depends.
#725 [06:44] <Toh> FTTH around 50MB/s ~ 100MB/s,.. i guess
#726 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> and 100kb-500kb is LOW for ADSL
#727 [06:45] <dragontech90> yep
#728 [06:45] <Toh> donnt specify speed >.<
#729 [06:45] <Toh> was guessing.. so
#730 [06:45] <Toh> if my internet isnt problem, why?
#731 [06:46] <Toh> help me GreyVulpine >.<
#732 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> Problem with..
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#734 [06:46] <Toh> plz dont say me!
#735 [06:46] <Solvius> back :)
#736 [06:46] <Toh> its me*
#737 [06:46] <Toh> something wrong with irc client.. keep freezing
#738 [06:47] <dragontech90> no
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#740 [06:47] <dragontech90> umm if u and i talk alot
#741 [06:47] <Toh> so...
#742 [06:47] <dragontech90> and fast
#743 [06:47] <Toh> problem with?
#744 [06:47] <dragontech90> its them
#745 [06:47] <Toh> >.<
#746 [06:47] <dragontech90> it took like 4 mints b4 for him to reply
#747 [06:48] <Toh> ook : )
#748 [06:48] <dragontech90> in that time span i had a kid she had a kid he had a kid and so on
#749 [06:48] <Toh> i have enough patiencee
#750 [06:48] <Toh> oh
#751 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate what your problem is Toh?
#752 [06:48] <Toh> ok : )
#753 [06:49] <Toh> im using intel core 2 quad q8300, 8gb ram and some hard.. and nvidia 9600gt
#754 [06:49] <Toh> and trying to use MCAdmin
#755 [06:49] <Toh> problem is when i turn on mobs spawn, it cause serious lag and freeze.. etc etc
#756 [06:49] <Toh> when i turn off, just fine
#757 [06:50] <Solvius> allright, I am in my router now, yeah :)
#758 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Using the latest server version?
#759 [06:50] <Toh> yep : )
#760 [06:50] <Toh> thought its auto patching, isnt it?
#761 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> No
#762 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Not the server
#763 [06:50] <Toh> >.< how can i patch
#764 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the server, overwrite and replace
#765 [06:51] <Toh> i downloaded this server like 5 hours ago
#766 [06:51] <Toh> do i need redownload? umm
#767 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, have you tried just running the server by itself, without mcadmin?
#768 [06:52] <Toh> yeah also had problem just like this
#769 [06:53] <Toh> and also..
#770 [06:53] <Toh> i tried reset world, remove plugins, mods
#771 [06:53] <Toh> ummm
#772 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> Then uh, have you looked at your computer's perfomance while the server's running?
#773 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> See if it's taking up a lot of CPU?
#774 [06:55] <Toh> yeah
#775 [06:56] <Toh> when i turn on, its like
#776 [06:56] <Toh> 90+
#777 [06:56] <Toh> when i trun off, 20~40
#778 [06:57] <Toh> also tried xm1024m >.<
#779 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, wierd
#780 [06:58] <Toh> >.<
#781 [06:58] <Toh> when i searching forum, i saw this
#782 [06:59] <Toh> theres some problem with spawning mobs after haloween update
#783 [06:59] <Toh> is this problem is already fixed?
#784 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#785 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> Which is why I asked if you updated your server..
#786 [07:00] <Toh> oh : )
#787 [07:00] <Toh> hmmmm
#788 [07:01] <Toh> weird...
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#791 [07:28] <Solvius> I have something odd to, my dns is now the same as my gateway, after the reset of the router
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#793 [07:36] <Solvius2> here I am agian :)
#794 [07:36] <Solvius2> now with a static ip :)
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#797 [07:41] <Solvius2> annyone can help me ?
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#799 [07:44] <Solvius2> can someone try to log in on my beta server ?
#800 [07:47] <Solvius2> or is a question like that not done ? :D
#801 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> IP?
#802 [07:48] <Solvius2> 192.168.1.110
#803 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> That's not a public IP
#804 [07:48] <Solvius2> thats the static one
#805 [07:49] <Solvius2> oh wait a sec
#806 [07:50] <Solvius2> 94.214.142.159
#807 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> !check 94.214.142.159
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#809 [07:53] <Solvius2> I see a lost connection GreyVulpine
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#811 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#812 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> Means it connected and disconnected successfully
#813 [07:53] <Solvius2> you cant log in ?
#814 [07:53] <Solvius2> so other people can play on that one now ?
#815 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#816 [07:54] <Solvius2> aaah, many thnx :)
#817 [07:55] <Solvius2> inside the game and connection to a multiplayer you only typed that ip adress from me, or dis you add something else ?
#818 [07:58] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#819 [07:58] <Solvius2> nope ?
#820 [07:59] <Solvius2> I need a cigaret :)
#821 [08:01] <GreyVulpine> So, no, I didn't need to add anything else
#822 [08:02] <Solvius2> thnx, now I know :) its difficult, and some things I had to improvise, but it works, with my limited knowledge :)
#823 [08:02] <GreyVulpine> Looks like you did just fine.
#824 [08:02] <Solvius2> GreyVulpine thanks for the help
#825 [08:04] <Solvius2> yeah, now I saw you log in on the server software and the game :) well I'm off now, got to do stuff with me lady, see ya all around
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#828 [08:23] <treqie> Have a problem. A friend accidently turned off the computer that ran a minecraft server. And the world ain't starting again, just an unexpected exception
#829 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> Tried renaming the /world/ folder to something else, and running it again?
#830 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> Have it generate a new map?
#831 [08:24] <treqie> Is there a nice fix for this? Tried making a new world, and then copy the old files into it. But that just made the world pretty fucked up. I think it combined the worlds and stuff like hills just appeared from nowhere
#832 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> Did a new world fix it?
#833 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> You can't just copy an old world's folders into the new world.
#834 [08:25] <mbentley> could make for some very interesting terrain...
#835 [08:25] <treqie> Well yeah, I noticed that. :P
#836 [08:25] <treqie> The terrain was pretty interesting. And the new spawning point was out in the water.
#837 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> Next best thing you could do, open the old world in a map editor.
#838 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> I use MCedit myself, and save it again
#839 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> See if that fixes it
#840 [08:27] <treqie> Yeah, that's at least a solution. But besides that, what can you really do to that old world? It's difficult to see what's exactly corrupted
#841 [08:28] <treqie> Oh, so mcedit might be able to "fix" it?
#842 [08:29] <GreyVulpine> Maybe.
#843 [08:30] <treqie> Nice. I'll check that out.
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#851 [09:36] <p0nto> HELLO
#852 [09:38] <p0nto> how can i get /lwc on my server
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#855 [09:45] <Kass> anyone open for helping?
#856 [09:46] <Merciless> sup
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#858 [09:48] <p0nto> ii am
#859 [09:48] <p0nto> KASS
#860 [09:49] <p0nto> kass?
#861 [09:49] <Kass> ooh sorry
#862 [09:49] <Kass> yes?
#863 [09:49] <Kass> thank you
#864 [09:50] <p0nto> can you help me get /iwc
#865 [09:50] <p0nto> lwc*
#866 [09:50] <p0nto> on my server
#867 [09:50] <Kass> Well, I have set my local ip in my router, set my port to minecrafts port.. and when im hostin' the damn server my cousin get stuck on logging in and later he gets an error.... why?
#868 [09:50] <Kass> whats lwc?
#869 [09:50] <p0nto> so you can lock chest
#870 [09:51] <p0nto> set password
#871 [09:51] <p0nto> on doors
#872 [09:51] <Kass> im sorry but i dont know how to do so... maybe its a plug-in u gotta download?
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#875 [09:53] <Kass> can anyone help? -.-
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#879 [10:03] <lordwez> Ok, quick question, my friends and I have an issue where the screen randomly turns black and the game locks up, its getting more frequent, any ideas?
#880 [10:04] <Merciless> reinstall java
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#882 [10:04] <lordwez> I updated, but haven't uninstalled completely yet
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#885 [10:06] <KamielFTW> hi
#886 [10:06] <KamielFTW> bye
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#889 [10:08] <Stokbrood4> Hello, can anyone help me with MineCraft Classic servers?
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#891 [10:14] <Kass> I need help, Ive set up a minecraft server... set my ports to minecrafts ports, set my local ip in the router base, started up the server as normal.. I CAN JOIN... but my cousin gets stuck on logging in and later gets an error
#892 [10:16] <nipper> Slow internet or your not forwarding the ports to the computer where the server is located at.
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#896 [10:21] <Kass> uuh, what do u mean?
#897 [10:21] <Kass> my internet is fine
#898 [10:21] <nipper> Your on a router correct.
#899 [10:21] <Kass> ye
#900 [10:21] <nipper> Are the ports open to that computer where the server is? or Is that computer located on the same network?
#901 [10:22] <Kass> how do i open the ports?
#902 [10:22] <nipper> That all depends on your router. You will need to go in to the settings.
#903 [10:25] <Whitefyr> i have a non port forwarding question about running a mc server
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#905 [10:26] <Whitefyr> i have setup a server to run for just me i havent done any port forwarding yet as i just use the client to log into localhost ... my problem is every time i try to get on the client crashes and the console for server says 10:07:42 Kicking /127.0.0.1: You need to log in! followed by 10:07:42 /127.0.0.1 disconnected
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#907 [10:27] <nipper> That might be the game it self. It's not able to idenfiy your MC client is legit.
#908 [10:27] <Whitefyr> its the client downloaded from the main site
#909 [10:28] <Whitefyr> i cant use the browser java client without major lag for somereason
#910 [10:28] <nipper> Try connecting to 127.0.0.1 and not localhost
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#912 [10:28] <Whitefyr> kk one moment
#913 [10:29] <nipper> If that does not work you might have to connect to your IP address. But if only you are going to be playing just run single player.
#914 [10:30] <Whitefyr> im gonna set it up for friends but i wanna be able to connect to it and set stuff up first before opening it to friends
#915 [10:30] <Whitefyr> putting 127.0.0.1 gave me the same error
#916 [10:30] <mr_boo> i know auto bot says you dont support mods, but does anyone know why the button to add mods does not work?
#917 [10:31] <nipper> Hmm Whitefyr, All I can think of is set it up for others and make sure you connect to your ipaddress.
#918 [10:32] <mr_boo> or how to access multi player?
#919 [10:32] <mr_boo> i have the beta but i am getting nothing
#920 [10:32] <nipper> mr_boo you login. Then hit the multiplayer.
#921 [10:33] <mr_boo> nipper, i have done all that. it asks me for an IP or a server. and when i enter it, nothing happens
#922 [10:33] <nipper> Yeah, You will need a Ip/Host of a server to connect to a game.
#923 [10:34] <Whitefyr> is there a way to set up login info per server so the client logs in to the server for added security
#924 [10:34] <mr_boo> how do i do that?
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#926 [10:34] <nipper> No, Whitefyr. But there is a mod called Hay0 which has a white list. So only people on the list can join.
#927 [10:35] <nipper> mr_boo, Try connecting to mc.shackx.net that would be my server. It should let you connect.
#928 [10:35] <nipper> If you want to find more servers. Google Minecraft server listings.
#929 [10:36] <mr_boo> ok
#930 [10:37] <Whitefyr> i tried logging in with the browser client it let me log in but i seemed stuc in a tree or something
#931 [10:38] <nipper> Whitefyr Move or type /kill to respawn.
#932 [10:39] <Whitefyr> im still not sure why it will log me in with browser but not client i would think that the client runs the same java code
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#934 [10:40] <nipper> It should. But I would asume with the one on the is able to idenfiy the client as being legit.
#935 [10:40] <nipper> I mean on the site
#936 [10:41] <Whitefyr> ok this baffles the heck outta me and this is far from my first server experience
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#938 [10:43] <Whitefyr> but thank you for the help hopefully i can get it working
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#963 [12:24] <Mjiig> Happy (slightly late) new year everyone :)
#964 [12:25] <Solvius> happy new year to you to :)
#965 [12:28] <Solvius> what is a reasoble amount for people to log in on a MP server ?
#966 [12:28] <Solvius> 4, 10, 20 ?
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#970 [12:50] <darkNiGHTS> hi
#971 [12:50] <darkNiGHTS> i'm trying to get a server running, but i'm getting some java errors
#972 [12:52] <Z4kku> Is there a way for Minecraft to NOT spike at 100% CPU usage all the time? =\
#973 [12:53] <darkNiGHTS> actually, it's just not letting me login for some reason
#974 [12:53] <darkNiGHTS> i can do single player fine
#975 [12:53] <darkNiGHTS> but it times out and crashes at login
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#979 [13:04] <Kealper> dang....lost internet for most of yesterday
#980 [13:04] <Kealper> router was messing up bad
#981 [13:04] <feenyx> did you replace it?
#982 [13:04] <Kealper> no, finnally got it to work again....i really need to get a new one though :/
#983 [13:05] <Kealper> weird thing...it could maintain connections that were already established before it started messing up...
#984 [13:05] <Kealper> but would not start any new connections
#985 [13:08] <feenyx> jeez, my mate's been productive since last night
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#989 [13:19] <Solvius> I got my router working today
#990 [13:19] <Solvius> alltough I got a lot of help
#991 [13:20] <Solvius> I saw its possible to use passwords for a server, is there any help for that ?
#992 [13:22] <Kealper> hmm?
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#994 [13:23] <Kass> if u are hostin' a server on minecraft... should i be able to host it wireless or do i need an internet cable?
#995 [13:24] <Kealper> it's possible to host on wireless
#996 [13:24] <Kealper> but it's better if you can host it on wired
#997 [13:24] <Kealper> since wireless can DC
#998 [13:26] <Kass> OMG Kealper woke up to life.... listen, when im hostin' my server... i've set my port to minecrafts, i have set my local ip and everything is possibly set... but when my cousin joins, he just get stuck on "logging in" or gets an error..
#999 [13:26] <Kealper> Kass: i was having internet problems :/
#1000 [13:27] <Kass> Oh thats bad :/
#1001 [13:27] <Kealper> hmm....
#1002 [13:27] <Kass> but still... do u think you could help me?
#1003 [13:27] <Kealper> so...you can log in fine?
#1004 [13:27] <Kass> 82.117.122.81 can u login and say what kind of error u get
#1005 [13:27] <Kass> I can yes
#1006 [13:28] <Kealper> hmm....
#1007 [13:28] <Kealper> in your server config, set online-mode to false for right now
#1008 [13:28] <Kass> alright
#1009 [13:29] <Kealper> then tell me when it's running again
#1010 [13:29] <Kass> now
#1011 [13:30] <Kealper> you restarted the mc server?
#1012 [13:30] <Kass> yes
#1013 [13:30] <Kealper> well...this ain't normal....
#1014 [13:30] <Kass> :(
#1015 [13:30] <Kealper> is your server the correct version?
#1016 [13:30] <Kass> its the one i downloaded from minecraft.net
#1017 [13:31] <Kealper> at the very top of the log window, what does it say for it's version?
#1018 [13:31] <Kass> 1.1_02
#1019 [13:31] <Kealper> crap...hmm...
#1020 [13:31] <Kealper> !check 82.117.122.81
#1021 [13:32] <Kass> =O
#1022 [13:32] <Kealper> you are positive the port is forwarded?
#1023 [13:32] <Kass> ima check one last time
#1024 [13:33] <Kass> what protocol? TCP, UDP or both?
#1025 [13:33] <Kealper> tcp
#1026 [13:33] <Kass> public n local ports, 25565?
#1027 [13:34] <Kealper> uhh...sounds about right
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#1029 [13:34] <Kealper> you are sure it's being forwarded to the correct computer?
#1030 [13:34] <Kass> how do i set that? its my local ip
#1031 [13:34] <Diablothein> Strange... Am I the only one that's experiencing this?
#1032 [13:34] <Kealper> Diablothein: depends
#1033 [13:34] <Kealper> and not the diapers
#1034 [13:34] <Diablothein> Powered Minecart not being able to push me in a regular minecart up a hill.
#1035 [13:35] <Kass> Kealper: try login now please
#1036 [13:35] <Kealper> Diablothein: directly behind said cart, with you in said cart?
#1037 [13:35] <Diablothein> Hill, me in cart, powered cart
#1038 [13:35] <Kealper> Kass: no dice
#1039 [13:36] <Kass> no dice?
#1040 [13:36] <Kealper> Diablothein: yeah, they don't have enough power for that
#1041 [13:36] <Kass> oh right.. online mode is set false
#1042 [13:36] <Kealper> (didn't work)
#1043 [13:36] <Diablothein> Useless sonsabitches.
#1044 [13:36] <Diablothein> Wtb nuclear fusion reactor
#1045 [13:36] <Kealper> Diablothein: have a second track beside the primary one that the powered cart rides on
#1046 [13:36] <Kass> try now kealper
#1047 [13:37] <Diablothein> I know the booster tricks, don't worry.
#1048 [13:37] <Kealper> doesn't even get to Logging In... now
#1049 [13:37] <Kass> wtf? i set online mode to true ._.
#1050 [13:37] <Kealper> :/
#1051 [13:37] <Kealper> brb in 5 sec
#1052 [13:37] <Kass> aight
#1053 [13:38] <Kealper> ok
#1054 [13:39] <Kass> hmm wb
#1055 [13:40] <Kealper> Kass: does your internet provider even allow port 25565?
#1056 [13:40] <Kealper> some block higher ports :/
#1057 [13:40] <Kass> i dont even know how to allow, im good with following instructions sometimes but i dont know computers that well so please teach me :p
#1058 [13:42] <Kealper> did you check out portforward.com? they have almost every router model on there, and have instructions for minecraft servers for each
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#1060 [13:42] <Kass> ima check now
#1061 [13:42] <Kass> should i click port checker?
#1062 [13:43] <Kealper> just note: before you choose the game to forward for, there will be an ad...there is a skip link in the top right corner
#1063 [13:43] <Kealper> and no, don't download any tools
#1064 [13:43] <Kass> aight
#1065 [13:43] <Kealper> that's what AuBot's !check is for, so you don't need to install a checker yourself lol
#1066 [13:45] <Kass> sweet ty :)
#1067 [13:45] <Kass> i found my router in router list
#1068 [13:46] <Diablothein> Stupid bot...
#1069 [13:46] * GreyBot bonks Diablothein, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1069 [13:46] <Diablothein> Stupid GreyBot
#1070 [13:46] <Diablothein> :D
#1071 [13:47] <Kass> kealper... PFConfig is worthless?
#1072 [13:48] <Kealper> yea, top right, click skip
#1073 [13:48] <Kealper> i'm sure it works fine, but it costs money
#1074 [13:48] <Kass> ugh, i dont wanna spend more money .p
#1075 [13:56] <Diablothein> PFConfig sucks bawls, tried it with my WRT310N, nothing.
#1076 [13:56] <Kealper> you probably had to enable UPnP on your router
#1077 [13:56] <Kass> i see
#1078 [13:56] <Kass> :o
#1079 [13:57] <Diablothein> Think I didn't follow instructions?
#1080 [13:57] <Diablothein> Ugh, now my favourite radio station pissed me off :|
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#1083 [13:59] <Kealper> i should go get sam4 and do an internet radio stream....lol
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#1085 [14:02] <Jackson413> hello?
#1086 [14:02] <Kealper> hi
#1087 [14:02] <Jackson413> i need help with the realms mod, and i know there is no mod support here
#1088 [14:02] <Jackson413> but could i get someone to help me with it at my server
#1089 [14:02] <Jackson413> cause i am brainless in this situation
#1090 [14:03] * Kealper has no idea what that even does
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#1091 [14:03] <Jackson413> it prevents people from editing certain areas and such
#1092 [14:03] <Kealper> oh, like Cuboid...
#1093 [14:03] <Jackson413> i guess
#1094 [14:03] <Jackson413> but different
#1095 [14:03] <Jackson413> different mods
#1096 [14:04] <Kealper> "Exactly the same, but totally different!"
#1097 [14:04] <Jackson413> sorta i guess
#1098 [14:04] <Jackson413> but can someone come to my server and help me
#1099 [14:04] <Kealper> idk...i guess i could go in there...lemme get some music queued up first
#1100 [14:04] <Jackson413> kk tell me when
#1101 [14:05] <Kealper> ok
#1102 [14:05] <Jackson413> 24.210.28.18
#1103 [14:06] <Jackson413> meet u there
#1104 [14:18] <Kass> god this have taken me days.....
#1105 [14:18] <Kass> still havent figured out what the F*** is wrong with my server, geez
#1106 [14:21] <Kealper> if your positive you are doing it right, then your isp might be blocking minecraft's default port :/
#1107 [14:21] <Kealper> try using port 8080
#1108 [14:23] <Kass> okay ima try, thanks for still helping me bro
#1109 [14:24] <Kass> ahould i change to port 8080 in the server properties too?
#1110 [14:24] <Kealper> yes
#1111 [14:24] <Kass> alrighty
#1112 [14:24] <Kass> still TCP?
#1113 [14:25] <Kealper> yup
#1114 [14:25] <Kass> sweet, lemme just change it..
#1115 [14:25] <Kass> btw, server-ip=
#1116 [14:25] <Kass> should i fix that`?
#1117 [14:25] <Kealper> leave that blank
#1118 [14:25] <Kass> alrighty
#1119 [14:26] <Kass> try joining now
#1120 [14:26] <Kealper> 1 sec
#1121 [14:26] <Kealper> ip again?
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#1123 [14:26] <Kass> hangon
#1124 [14:27] <Kass> 82.117.122.81
#1125 [14:27] <Kealper> connects but it gets stuck at logging in again....
#1126 [14:27] <Kass> sheeeeeeez
#1127 [14:27] <Kealper> i really don't know why it's not working....who is your ISP?
#1128 [14:28] <Kass> what is ISP? xD
#1129 [14:28] <Kealper> Internet Service Provider
#1130 [14:28] <Kass> how do i check that?
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#1132 [14:28] <Kealper> it's the company you buy your internet from
#1133 [14:28] <Kealper> like RoadRunner, Cox, Comcast, AT&T, etc
#1134 [14:29] <Kass> i dont know that, but my router is siemens
#1135 [14:29] <Kealper> that doesn't help :/
#1136 [14:29] <Kass> ok hangon
#1137 [14:30] <Kass> they're company is Blixtvik i think... swedish company i think
#1138 [14:30] <Kealper> oh....no idea about them...
#1139 [14:31] <Kass> i ser
#1140 [14:31] <Kass> see*
#1141 [14:32] <Kass> isn't there anything i could try so u wont get stuck on loggging in?
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#1143 [14:33] <Kealper> well...was it just something for you and a few friends? or did you want it more public?
#1144 [14:33] <Kass> well, i made my cousins buy minecraft just to play with me and they ofcourse liked it... so i was gonna put up a server so we could play privatly but i cant get it working :/
#1145 [14:34] <Kealper> oh, well you could give Hamachi a shot
#1146 [14:34] <Kass> hangon.. before we try that... cant u help me with hostin' a server just from the scratch...?
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#1148 [14:36] <Kealper> uhh...i can't do much without knowing what is going on...but i guess i could try to help
#1149 [14:36] <Kass> alright thanks
#1150 [14:36] <Kealper> first thing's first...what is your computer's internal ip?
#1151 [14:37] <Kass> you mean my local? the ip i log in on?
#1152 [14:37] <Kealper> the one that probably starts with 192.168
#1153 [14:37] <Kass> my local is 192.168.2.15
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#1155 [14:37] <Patt> Hello
#1156 [14:37] <Kealper> ok, and you can use that to connect to your server?
#1157 [14:38] <Kealper> hell Patt
#1158 [14:38] <Kealper> hello*
#1159 [14:38] <Patt> I have a script that replaces, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_startup_script, AND IT WORKS (unlike that one)
#1160 [14:38] <Kass> yes im using that
#1161 [14:38] <Kealper> Kass: and that is the ip that you enter for the port forward?
#1162 [14:39] <Kass> yes it is
#1163 [14:39] <Kealper> TIL there is a server status script on the wiki
#1164 [14:39] <Kass> TIL?
#1165 [14:39] <Kealper> Today I Learned
#1166 [14:40] <Kass> oooh xD
#1167 [14:40] <Kealper> it's a reddit.com thing lol
#1168 [14:40] <Kass> :p
#1169 [14:40] <Kealper> Patt: best bet is to talk to Quatroking on this irc network, he's the main guy for the wiki
#1170 [14:40] <Patt> AH
#1171 [14:40] <Patt> Ok
#1172 [14:40] <Kealper> you can usually find him idling in #minecraft
#1173 [14:40] <Patt> Once I finish the backup and update part of the script i'll let him know
#1174 [14:42] <Kass> so, im in port forwarding now.... what should i do?
#1175 [14:42] <Kass> set the port as 25565 right?
#1176 [14:42] <Kealper> yes
#1177 [14:42] <Kealper> and the ip that it goes to as your local ip, the one you put in here
#1178 [14:43] <Kass> okay done
#1179 [14:43] <Kealper> settings are saved and applied?
#1180 [14:43] <Kass> yes enabled and everything
#1181 [14:44] <lemon-rev> kealper you trying to get the exe or still java like you tell everyone else lol ?
#1182 [14:44] <Kealper> and in server.properties the port is back at 25565
#1183 [14:44] <Kass> alright
#1184 [14:44] <Kealper> lemon-rev: eh?
#1185 [14:44] <lemon-rev> oh, well everytime someone puts up a server
#1186 [14:44] <lemon-rev> you guys always tell them to run the java one
#1187 [14:44] <lemon-rev> wich is the java 512 k one and himem and all that crap
#1188 [14:44] <lemon-rev> lol
#1189 [14:45] <Kealper> i only recommend the jar when the person is on windows and their computer sucks too much to run both the server at 1 gig of ram and the client
#1190 [14:45] <lemon-rev> oh i see
#1191 [14:45] <Kealper> since you can customize the allocated ammount of ram with the jar
#1192 [14:45] <lemon-rev> oh
#1193 [14:45] <lemon-rev> though it was preset but you get that lol
#1194 [14:46] <Kass> when im hosting with the jar version before... then it worked, but suddenly it said NOT ENOUGH RAM... and i didnt knew how to fix that, how to run it as java -xmx1024blablabla
#1195 [14:46] <Kass> okay ports set in server.properties
#1196 [14:46] <Kealper> and the mc server is restarted?
#1197 [14:47] <Kass> yes
#1198 [14:47] <Kass> no
#1199 [14:47] <Kass> now it is xD sorry
#1200 [14:48] <lemon-rev> kass is too far for me to test it just says loading lol
#1201 [14:48] <Kealper> !check 82.117.122.81
#1202 [14:48] <Kass> :(
#1203 [14:48] <Kealper> yea, it makes a connection...but it won't go past logging in
#1204 [14:48] <Kass> thats my big problem
#1205 [14:49] <Kealper> Kass: http://speedtest.net choose the golden server and post the result in here (it gives a url to post)
#1206 [14:49] <Kass> if u could help me launch the jar version as java -xmx1024blablabla... i think it will work since the jar version worked before
#1207 [14:49] <Kealper> just run the jar....disregard the yelling lol
#1208 [14:49] <Kealper> it should work fine for just a few people on it
#1209 [14:49] <Kass> :p gotta re-download it hangon
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#1211 [14:50] <Desereck> This is the support channel, correct?
#1212 [14:51] <Kealper> certainly looks like it :P
#1213 [14:51] <Kealper> (yes)
#1214 [14:51] <Desereck> Haha, well. I'm having a problem with video capture. Anyone savvy with that?
#1215 [14:51] <mbentley> not i
#1216 [14:51] <Kealper> using what program to capture?
#1217 [14:51] <Desereck> Any.
#1218 [14:52] <Desereck> I've tried Fraps and wegame to start. Neither show up in my game.
#1219 [14:52] <Kealper> have you tried GameCam? i have not used it in a while, but when i did use it, it worked fairly well
#1220 [14:52] <Kass> Kealper or lemon, try log on now..
#1221 [14:52] <Desereck> I'll download it real quick. One moment.
#1222 [14:52] <lemon-rev> k give sec
#1223 [14:52] <lemon-rev> trying
#1224 [14:53] <Kealper> doesn't look like it's going to log in....
#1225 [14:53] <Kass> i see that in the console :p
#1226 [14:53] <Kass> :/ well it says
#1227 [14:53] <Kass> [WARNING] **** NOT ENOUGH RAM!
#1228 [14:53] <Kass> [WARNING] To start the server with more ram, launch it as "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#1229 [14:53] <Kealper> yea, ignore that
#1230 [14:53] <Kass> u sure?
#1231 [14:53] <Kealper> yea....shouldn't be an issue
#1232 [14:54] <mbentley> hmm, thought about trying online-mode=true
#1233 [14:54] <lemon-rev> kass it timed out
#1234 [14:54] <mbentley> err
#1235 [14:54] <lemon-rev> :(
#1236 [14:54] <mbentley> online-mode=false
#1237 [14:54] <Kass> it is true bentley
#1238 [14:54] <Kass> oh
#1239 [14:54] <Kealper> mbentley: does the same without online mode on
#1240 [14:54] <mbentley> ah ok
#1241 [14:54] <Kass> hmmmmmmmm
#1242 [14:54] <Kealper> it's like the server just accepts the connection and forgets about it
#1243 [14:54] <Kass> exactly
#1244 [14:54] <Kealper> Kass: did you do that speed test?
#1245 [14:55] <Kass> oh forgot, hangon
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#1247 [14:56] <Kass> golden server... is that the star?
#1248 [14:56] <Kealper> yea
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#1250 [14:57] <Kass> ping 37 ms, upload speed 0.82mb/sec and download speed 7.66 mb/sec
#1251 [14:57] <Kealper> then i really don't know why it is not working :/
#1252 [14:58] <mbentley> very strange
#1253 [14:58] <Kass> D;
#1254 [14:58] <Kealper> because the port is forwarded correctly, it makes a connection...it just doesn't do anything with said open connection
#1255 [14:58] <lemon-rev> hm
#1256 [14:58] <Desereck> Kealper, GameCam didn't work.
#1257 [14:58] <Kealper> Desereck: methinks it's something with your computer then...because that and fraps works on mine :/
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#1259 [14:59] <Desereck> Well, Fraps doesn't show the counter in Minecraft, but it works fine in all my other games.
#1260 [14:59] <Desereck> Shouldn't be a software conflict, I'm on Win7 Ultimate 64c
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#1262 [15:00] <Kealper> same...have you tried reinstalling fraps? it could be something with it's opengl capture stuff
#1263 [15:00] <Desereck> I'm thinking it's something to do with Minecraft just being a .exe and not having any system files.
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#1266 [15:00] <blind> hello, i have the problem that we can't dig ANYTHING on my minecraft server and i don't see why...can't find anything in the forums. can someone help me out?
#1267 [15:01] <mbentley> blind: what happens exactly?
#1268 [15:01] <Desereck> Like for example, all the other games I can record fine have a c:\ directory.
#1269 [15:01] <lemon-rev> where are you digging blind
#1270 [15:01] <Kealper> blind: are you near your spawn?
#1271 [15:01] <lemon-rev> you cant dig too close to swawn
#1272 [15:01] <blind> to explain it a bit better, i dig something (e.g. sand), it dissapears, but then immediately spawns again
#1273 [15:01] <blind> oh yes
#1274 [15:01] <blind> im close to spawn
#1275 [15:01] <lemon-rev> lol
#1276 [15:01] <lemon-rev> yes
#1277 [15:01] <mbentley> if blocks disappear and then reappear, you are close to spawn :D
#1278 [15:01] <blind> ouch
#1279 [15:01] <Kealper> move far from spawn
#1280 [15:01] <blind> sorry, i am stupid :D
#1281 [15:01] <Coll> !check 76.18.92.56
#1282 [15:01] <Coll> aw
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#1284 [15:02] <Kealper> you'd be surprized how many people get that lol
#1285 [15:02] <blind> oh man thanks for help
#1286 [15:02] <blind> someone should clearly add that to FAQ then :))
#1287 [15:02] <blind> was reading for an hour trying to find the issue :D
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#1289 [15:02] <blind> have a good night and happy new year everyone
#1290 [15:02] <Kass> and ive tried to fix my issue for days....
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#1292 [15:03] <mbentley> it sounds like there is some other problem preventing connections Kass
#1293 [15:03] <Coll> !check 76.18.92.56
#1294 [15:03] <Coll> hmm
#1295 [15:03] <Coll> ok I know how to fix this
#1296 [15:03] <Kealper> mbentley: that's the weird thing, it accepts connections
#1297 [15:04] <Wesley> can some one tell my where i can find the in-game level generator ?
#1298 [15:04] <lemon-rev> its random whats wrong with it
#1299 [15:04] <mbentley> yeah, that is odd
#1300 [15:04] <lemon-rev> lol
#1301 [15:04] <Kealper> the server accepts the connection, but never sends the "ok" and the map data back to the client
#1302 [15:04] <Coll> !check 76.18.92.56
#1303 [15:04] <Kealper> Wesley: uhh...find it for what?
#1304 [15:05] <mbentley> wonder if there could be something with the map files or maybe some other server related file causing the issue
#1305 [15:05] <Wesley> to generate a map
#1306 [15:05] <Kealper> Wesley: just use singleplayer to make a map
#1307 [15:05] <Kealper> then copy said generated map
#1308 [15:05] <Kealper> mbentley: Kass can log in to it just fine, but no one else (external) can
#1309 [15:06] <mbentley> ah, good to know...
#1310 [15:06] <Kass> :7
#1311 [15:06] <Kealper> Kass: your server has stumped me :/
#1312 [15:07] <Kass> stumped? what do u mean? ;OO
#1313 [15:07] <Kealper> i've got no ideas left on what could be the problem :/
#1314 [15:08] <mbentley> hmm that is odd
#1315 [15:08] <Kass> **** D;
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#1317 [15:08] <mbentley> everything looks good until the freeze at logging in
#1318 [15:08] <Kealper> yea...it's literally like it just accepts the connection and forgets about it, then the client goes "screw this" and disconnects
#1319 [15:08] <mbentley> definitely
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#1322 [15:13] <Kass> yeh...
#1323 [15:15] <Kealper> holy crap.... GreyVulpine, xales, http://minecraft.codeemo.com/index.html
#1324 [15:15] <mbentley> Kass: you don't have any other computers on your network that you can test the srver on, do you?
#1325 [15:16] <Kass> I guess i can... ima check hangon
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#1327 [15:16] <Desereck> I downloaded Fraps v3.2.3, let's see what happens
#1328 [15:17] <Desereck> It works :D
#1329 [15:18] <Kealper> must have been something wonky with that version's opengl hooks and your graphics drivers or something :/
#1330 [15:18] <Kass> Guys.. i got a freaking idea... can any of u send me your world, if u got ur own minecraft server? maybe it'll work then?
#1331 [15:19] <Kealper> huh? lol
#1332 [15:19] <Kass> copy ur minecraft world and send me it? ;o
#1333 [15:19] <Diablothein> How's about no? :D
#1334 [15:19] <Kealper> that won't fix it :/
#1335 [15:19] <mbentley> why not just try to rename your world's directory and then fire it up
#1336 [15:19] <Kealper> ^
#1337 [15:20] <mbentley> that would generate a brand new map
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#1340 [15:20] <Rawr5> Anyoen here know any good beta multiplayer servers?
#1341 [15:20] <Abishua> Hello everyone.
#1342 [15:21] <Kealper> Rawr5: type /join #smp
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#1344 [15:21] <mbentley> or check the forums
#1345 [15:21] <mbentley> @ http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025&sid=d345b5bc41b4b211e5e0977d176c369d
#1346 [15:21] <Rawr5> thanks
#1347 [15:22] <Kass> You're right bentley, ima try that thanks!
#1348 [15:22] <Abishua> So I have a question: is it possible to set up a beta SMP server where you can connect with clients with any username you wish? Obviously not real accounts, but I'm trying to do a project with multiple instances of minecraft connected to a local server, but I can't seem to track down any info on how to specifically pull this off.
#1349 [15:23] <Kealper> Abishua: no, because of the way minecraft logs in to servers
#1350 [15:23] <Abishua> Righto, thanks.
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#1352 [15:26] <g1mckenzie> hi
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#1355 [15:26] <Kealper> hi
#1356 [15:26] <g1mckenzie> i need some help with port forwarding
#1357 [15:27] <g1mckenzie> i followed everything in this guide http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/BT/BTHomeHub2/Minecraft_Server.htm
#1358 [15:27] <Kealper> http://portforward.com can usually help with that
#1359 [15:27] <Kealper> hmm....
#1360 [15:27] <g1mckenzie> it is the correct router im using
#1361 [15:27] <g1mckenzie> but
#1362 [15:27] <g1mckenzie> it says
#1363 [15:27] <g1mckenzie> ports setting conflict
#1364 [15:27] <g1mckenzie> This application ports setting conflict with others, Please correct it and try again.
#1365 [15:27] <Kealper> it means something is already using port 25565
#1366 [15:27] <g1mckenzie> yeah, what though?
#1367 [15:28] <g1mckenzie> what else could be using it
#1368 [15:28] <Kealper> could you take a screenshot of your port forwarding page? i could tell you if i could see that
#1369 [15:28] <g1mckenzie> do you have msn?
#1370 [15:28] <g1mckenzie> it would be a lot easier to paste the message in
#1371 [15:28] <Kealper> easiest way is just to press print screen (Prnt Scrn) and paste it into Paint
#1372 [15:28] <g1mckenzie> and upload it
#1373 [15:29] <g1mckenzie> ok
#1374 [15:29] <g1mckenzie> ill go do that
#1375 [15:29] <Kealper> and then upload the saved image to something like http://imgur.com
#1376 [15:29] <Kass> could it be a problem that im running wireless guys?
#1377 [15:30] <g1mckenzie> are there any other known applications that use port 25565
#1378 [15:30] <mbentley> Kass: possibly
#1379 [15:30] <Kealper> not that i know of, but something could have a range of ports forwarded that include 25565
#1380 [15:31] <g1mckenzie> yeah
#1381 [15:32] <g1mckenzie> there is a load of things already listed
#1382 [15:32] <g1mckenzie> theyre pre forwarded
#1383 [15:33] <Kass> hmm
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#1385 [15:34] <mr_trousers> May i ask a quick question?
#1386 [15:34] <Kealper> g1mckenzie: were you going to do a screenshot? i could tell you what to change around to get it to work
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#1388 [15:34] <Kealper> mr_trousers: you just did, but we'd be glad to answer another, too :P
#1389 [15:34] <mr_trousers> :D
#1390 [15:34] <g1mckenzie> im uploading the screenshot
#1391 [15:34] <g1mckenzie> well, im uploading one to see if i have the correct settings first
#1392 [15:35] <Abishua> Ajlright, Keapler, I got it to kinda work. With online mode set to false you can connect multiple accounts to a local server, but it's a bit odd and crazy laggy. Thanks for the help. ^_^
#1393 [15:36] <Kealper> Abishua: if more than two people do not log in and try to join that server, it will kick the first person who did not log in
#1394 [15:36] <mr_trousers> Over the last couple of days i have been running a modded server for me and my friends with standard minecraft gameplay, but i would like to change it so that we have a world which is just plain and we have the infinite of all block including the colored ones without having to spawn them
#1395 [15:36] <Kealper> mr_trousers: you could try minecraft classic, that's basically just what you are describing
#1396 [15:36] <Abishua> Interesting.
#1397 [15:36] <mbentley> mr_trousers: just create a new map and make everone an op
#1398 [15:37] <mbentley> that is about all i can think of
#1399 [15:37] <mr_trousers> Yep we will still have to spawn
#1400 [15:37] <lemon-rev> kealper the minecraft , if i dont log in it will go back to classic, if i create a world in that will thatover ride my first world ?
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#1402 [15:38] <Kealper> lemon-rev: uhh...what? lol
#1403 [15:38] <lemon-rev> the minecraft beta
#1404 [15:38] <lemon-rev> you know the log in screen
#1405 [15:38] <lemon-rev> if i tell it to cancle will it go into classic mode
#1406 [15:38] <lemon-rev> ?
#1407 [15:38] <lemon-rev> first off
#1408 [15:38] <Kealper> if you don't log in, it will just ask to go into offline mode, you can still play it normally
#1409 [15:38] <lemon-rev> oh
#1410 [15:39] <lemon-rev> so i have to get the clasic independently ?
#1411 [15:39] <mr_trousers> But isnt there a way to do that?
#1412 [15:39] <Kealper> yes
#1413 [15:39] <mbentley> yes, they are two different things
#1414 [15:39] <mbentley> that is just beta single player
#1415 [15:39] <g1mckenzie> http://s841.photobucket.com/albums/zz333/g1mckenzie/?action=view¤t=pf2.png
#1416 [15:39] <g1mckenzie> are these the correct settings?
#1417 [15:40] <g1mckenzie> the first one tcp and the second udp?
#1418 [15:40] <mbentley> you don't need udp
#1419 [15:40] <g1mckenzie> should i delete it?
#1420 [15:40] <mbentley> ys
#1421 [15:40] <mbentley> *yes
#1422 [15:40] <mbentley> delete the 2nd one
#1423 [15:40] <g1mckenzie> ok, i do believe you but i would like to get more than one persons opinion
#1424 [15:40] <g1mckenzie> no offence
#1425 [15:40] <mbentley> sure
#1426 [15:40] <g1mckenzie> kealper, does the second one make a difference?
#1427 [15:41] <mbentley> minecraft only uses tcp
#1428 [15:41] <mbentley> but Kealper can verify
#1429 [15:41] <g1mckenzie> what are the two anyway?
#1430 [15:41] <mbentley> different types of protocols
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#1432 [15:41] <Kealper> uhh....
#1433 [15:41] <Kealper> that is not port forwading....
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#1435 [15:41] <mbentley> tcp verifies data is sent. udp is connectionless (doesn't verify)
#1436 [15:41] <g1mckenzie> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/BT/BTHomeHub2/Minecraft_Server.htm
#1437 [15:41] <g1mckenzie> it says you need them both here
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#1439 [15:42] <g1mckenzie> so, kealper, do i need the second one?
#1440 [15:43] <Halsh> Hi
#1441 [15:43] <g1mckenzie> hi
#1442 [15:43] <Halsh> That purple and black just broke my eyes :(
#1443 [15:43] <Patt> My linux server script... http://slexy.org/view/s21NSPK1DL
#1444 [15:43] <Patt> Except for mc_update()
#1445 [15:43] <g1mckenzie> purple and black?
#1446 [15:43] <Kealper> g1mckenzie: i really have no idea...that is the stupidest port forwarding setup i've ever seen
#1447 [15:43] <Halsh> The text colour/highlight
#1448 [15:44] <xolotl> Kealper: Heh, that's why I gave up. :)
#1449 [15:44] <mbentley> that is definitely odd. it doesn't give a destination IP
#1450 [15:44] <Kealper> Halsh: eye-catching, isn't it? :P
#1451 [15:44] <Halsh> Not the words I'd use, but yes.
#1452 [15:44] <Kealper> mbentley: check the portforward.com page, it's friggin retarded
#1453 [15:44] <mbentley> yeah, i am looking at it now
#1454 [15:44] <g1mckenzie> so, does what i have look right?
#1455 [15:44] <Solvius> can a Pentium 4.... 3.2 MHz run minecraft ?
#1456 [15:44] <mbentley> it is like they tried to make it easier but it is bad
#1457 [15:45] <mbentley> Solvius: yes
#1458 [15:45] <Solvius> thnx
#1459 [15:45] <mbentley> depends on the video card as well
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#1461 [15:45] <Kealper> g1mckenzie: i really can't help much with that, i guess as long as you follow the portforward.com page exactly, it should work
#1462 [15:45] <Solvius> I ask what he has :)
#1463 [15:45] <Dudeio> Rawr~~ Could I get help?
#1464 [15:45] <Kealper> Dudeio: maybe
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#1466 [15:46] <Dudeio> Erm... Brb
#1467 [15:46] <lemon-rev> lol
#1468 [15:46] <lemon-rev> oh well
#1469 [15:46] <g1mckenzie> kealper, i did and it didnt work
#1470 [15:47] <Kealper> g1mckenzie: are you sure you gave the other person the correct address after setting up the port forward?
#1471 [15:47] <Solvius> he has an onboard videocard, very old...
#1472 [15:48] <Halsh> This is weird.. After updating my Java to the latest update yesterday, I could play Minecraft Classic fine yesterday.. Now the window doesn't work after turning it off for the night. Did I mess up a setting without knowing?
#1473 [15:48] <mbentley> it might run but probably not well with an onboard video card
#1474 [15:48] <Solvius> thank you mbentley, I try him to try the classic version
#1475 [15:49] <lemon-rev> halsh whats your game doing
#1476 [15:49] <Halsh> It's not outputting video that I can see
#1477 [15:49] <Halsh> If I switch to another window/tab and swap back, the image that was over the game window is imprinted on it
#1478 [15:50] <lemon-rev> hm
#1479 [15:50] <Halsh> Now it's just black
#1480 [15:50] <Dudeio> 'Kay I'm back
#1481 [15:50] <Dudeio> I need to set up a port forward
#1482 [15:50] <Dudeio> How to do so?
#1483 [15:50] <lemon-rev> i know minecraft beta runs from like bin directory if yu killed that it would only install the game again but i dont know about classic
#1484 [15:51] <Halsh> I had classic working fine yesterday after updating the java
#1485 [15:51] <lemon-rev> dudeio try looking it up first
#1486 [15:51] <lemon-rev> look up portforwarding on google
#1487 [15:51] <Halsh> Maybe its rolled back to a previous version, so it's encountering errors?
#1488 [15:51] <Dudeio> Yeah but I feel more secure having someone actually explaining it as I ask and what not
#1489 [15:51] <lemon-rev> i suppose, thats kinda what it sounds like,
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#1491 [15:51] <lemon-rev> hm
#1492 [15:51] <lemon-rev> well
#1493 [15:52] <lemon-rev> we do this all the time in here thats all
#1494 [15:52] <lemon-rev> anyways
#1495 [15:52] <Dudeio> It's ok
#1496 [15:52] <lemon-rev> you got access
#1497 [15:52] <lemon-rev> to
#1498 [15:52] <Dudeio> I'm googling
#1499 [15:52] <lemon-rev> your router
#1500 [15:52] <Dudeio> Yeah
#1501 [15:52] <lemon-rev> ok
#1502 [15:52] <lemon-rev> you got a port forwarding option in there ?
#1503 [15:52] <Dudeio> I don't know
#1504 [15:52] <Dudeio> What is a port forward option?
#1505 [15:53] <lemon-rev> well it will say port forwarding or something else to like do that exact thing
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#1507 [15:53] <lemon-rev> depends on type of router your running
#1508 [15:53] <lemon-rev> but you need to log in and have a look and dont log out just yet
#1509 [15:53] <lemon-rev> just yet*
#1510 [15:54] <Kass> damn.. i changed to a wired internet type and now it stucks on connecting to server.. instead of logging in -.-
#1511 [15:54] <Dudeio> Log in what?
#1512 [15:54] <Dudeio> Minecraft?
#1513 [15:55] <Dudeio> It says airlink 29150 on my router
#1514 [15:55] <Dudeio> You mean my wireless router right?
#1515 [15:55] <Dudeio> Or my modem?
#1516 [15:55] <Solvius> Dudelo, first you have to make a stati IP adress if you dont have one :)
#1517 [15:55] <lemon-rev> well what ever it is,
#1518 [15:55] <Dudeio> How do I do that?
#1519 [15:55] <Halsh> What would be the best way to find out if it's rolling back and to avoid it? Just remove all previous installations? flatout uninstall and then reinstall java?
#1520 [15:55] <Solvius> static I mean
#1521 [15:55] <lemon-rev> hm,
#1522 [15:55] <mbentley> Halsh: yeah, that would be safe
#1523 [15:55] <lemon-rev> have you ever log'ed into your router before
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#1526 [15:55] <Halsh> Which, uninstall -> reinstall?
#1527 [15:56] <Solvius> Dudeio wait a sec
#1528 [15:56] <lemon-rev> have you got a wired connection stright to your pc to your wireless airlink
#1529 [15:56] <Dudeio> Both
#1530 [15:56] <lemon-rev> good
#1531 [15:56] <Solvius> Dudeio, try this http://portforward.com/
#1532 [15:57] <Kass> does anyone know why it stucks on conencting to server instead of logging in this time?
#1533 [15:57] <Solvius> srry lemon-rev, I will keep silencio now :)
#1534 [15:57] <lemon-rev> its ok
#1535 [15:58] <Xjet> hi guy
#1536 [15:58] <Xjet> How can i find a private server ?
#1537 [15:58] <lemon-rev> dudeio put this in your browser
#1538 [15:58] <lemon-rev> 192.168.0.1
#1539 [15:59] <lemon-rev> ask someone to set you up one or a friend prehapse xjet
#1540 [15:59] <lemon-rev> dudeio
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#1542 [15:59] <lemon-rev> ???
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#1544 [15:59] <Dudeio> IRC felt like dying and then I had to use my CPR skills ;3
#1545 [15:59] <lemon-rev> i found the page that will help us
#1546 [15:59] <Xjet> ok, and if i would make my one server ? tuto anywhere ?
#1547 [16:00] <lemon-rev> hm, stay in and learn something xjet
#1548 [16:00] <lemon-rev> dudeio
#1549 [16:00] <alex_briggs> Was the Minecraft Forum down for anyone else yesterday?
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#1551 [16:00] <lemon-rev> i have a page looking at your pacific router
#1552 [16:00] <lemon-rev> im trying to help here
#1553 [16:00] <lemon-rev> its been haveing trouble since the new year
#1554 [16:00] <lemon-rev> just keep on trying
#1555 [16:00] <alex_briggs> Oh, okay
#1556 [16:01] <lemon-rev> dudeio am i helping you or am i playing minecraft
#1557 [16:01] <lemon-rev> ?
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#1559 [16:03] <Dudeio> uhm
#1560 [16:03] <Dudeio> Helping me please
#1561 [16:03] <lemon-rev> shit, ok
#1562 [16:03] <lemon-rev> then
#1563 [16:03] <Dudeio> I was using that PF config program that I got recommended
#1564 [16:03] <lemon-rev> open a bowser and type 192.168.0.1
#1565 [16:03] <Dudeio> kk
#1566 [16:03] <lemon-rev> and tell me if it brings up a log in screen
#1567 [16:03] <Solvius> xjet, see your PM :)
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#1569 [16:04] <Dudeio> I logged in
#1570 [16:04] <lemon-rev> ok
#1571 [16:04] <Dudeio> I'm on my routers webpage
#1572 [16:04] <lemon-rev> good stuff
#1573 [16:04] <lemon-rev> Click the Advanced Settings button near the left of the page
#1574 [16:04] <Solvius> any dutch in here ?
#1575 [16:04] <lemon-rev> now im copying stright off this site lol
#1576 [16:04] <Dudeio> static ip
#1577 [16:05] <Dudeio> I'm in the static ip page
#1578 [16:05] <lemon-rev> This router has two different sections that allow you to forward ports. One section allows you to forward a range of ports, and the other allows you to forward a single port. To forward a range of ports, click Port Forwarding. To forward a single port, click Virtual Server
#1579 [16:05] <lemon-rev> now all i know is the single port , witch is 25565
#1580 [16:05] <lemon-rev> thats all you should need but first
#1581 [16:06] <Dudeio> I went to the NAT page and clicked port forwarding
#1582 [16:06] <lemon-rev> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/JensenScandinavia/AirLink-29150/Limewire.htm < dudeio right down the bottem of this page tell me if it looks like this
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#1584 [16:06] <lemon-rev> forget the top of the page lol
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#1586 [16:07] <Dudeio> yup
#1587 [16:07] <Dudeio> exactly
#1588 [16:07] <lemon-rev> good stuff
#1589 [16:07] <lemon-rev> now
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#1591 [16:07] <lemon-rev> that private ip
#1592 [16:07] <lemon-rev> for that
#1593 [16:07] <Fenard> anyone know why when i login to the game i cant see any blocks i fall, forever, i cant chat, etc
#1594 [16:07] <lemon-rev> you need
#1595 [16:07] <lemon-rev> dudeio / start / run / type in cmd
#1596 [16:07] <Dudeio> I know how to open cmd :P
#1597 [16:07] <aetherian> aahhhhh
#1598 [16:07] <lemon-rev> well i was doing that cause i wasnt sure
#1599 [16:07] <lemon-rev> ok dude
#1600 [16:08] <aetherian> erm okay hello
#1601 [16:08] <Dudeio> Hi!
#1602 [16:08] <lemon-rev> fenard you on a sserver or your own game
#1603 [16:08] <Dudeio> He did say chat, so I'm guessing a server
#1604 [16:08] <lemon-rev> dudeio type in ipconfig
#1605 [16:08] <Fenard> i was on a server
#1606 [16:08] <lemon-rev> its called lagg issues
#1607 [16:08] <Fenard> teh reddit server, to be more accurate
#1608 [16:08] <lemon-rev> lol fenard lol
#1609 [16:08] <Dudeio> local or wireless IP?
#1610 [16:08] <Fenard> Give me a break i bought it like 10 minutes ago
#1611 [16:08] <lemon-rev> well your lagg maybe too great
#1612 [16:08] <Fenard> :/
#1613 [16:09] <Fenard> hmm it must be
#1614 [16:09] <Fenard> just start a single player game and it worked fine
#1615 [16:09] <Fenard> :/
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#1617 [16:09] <lemon-rev> ohm, now this is where im stuffed up, should be a range with 192.168 < dont know the diff between wireless and local but im asuming local
#1618 [16:09] <Dudeio> I get ofcourse, three different adresses for both wireless and wired
#1619 [16:09] <lemon-rev> if its not the same as the router
#1620 [16:09] <Dudeio> I'll take wireless
#1621 [16:10] <Dudeio> Do I copy the IP adress or the Standard Gateway?
#1622 [16:10] <lemon-rev> ok then
#1623 [16:10] <Dudeio> nvm
#1624 [16:10] <lemon-rev> the ip adress
#1625 [16:10] <Dudeio> I think they're the same
#1626 [16:10] <Braxadde> Hi i have started a server and i can join it but my friend cant. he gets "connection timed out" PLEASE HELP
#1627 [16:10] <lemon-rev> ?
#1628 [16:10] <lemon-rev> lol
#1629 [16:10] <lemon-rev> so yea copy that into private ip
#1630 [16:10] <Dudeio> only difference is that the IP has two extra 0's at the end
#1631 [16:10] <lemon-rev> lol
#1632 [16:10] <lemon-rev> i see
#1633 [16:11] <Dudeio> 'Kay
#1634 [16:11] <Braxadde> Please help
#1635 [16:11] <Dudeio> I got my compuer selected
#1636 [16:11] <lemon-rev> ok
#1637 [16:11] <lemon-rev> kewl
#1638 [16:11] <Dudeio> Whats the port range I should use?
#1639 [16:11] <Braxadde> 25565-25565
#1640 [16:11] <lemon-rev> dudeio the port range is 25565 , 25565
#1641 [16:11] <lemon-rev> yup
#1642 [16:11] <Dudeio> Also, TCP or UDP?
#1643 [16:12] <Dudeio> Or... Both?!
#1644 [16:12] <lemon-rev> i think you can select both
#1645 [16:12] <lemon-rev> just makes it easier
#1646 [16:12] <aetherian> !ping
#1647 [16:12] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.441 Seconds.
#1648 [16:12] <aetherian> hmm
#1649 [16:12] <aetherian> but slow
#1650 [16:12] <Dudeio> kk, I added it now
#1651 [16:12] <Braxadde> PLEASE HELP!! I can join my server but my friend can't, he gets connection timed out. Please help!
#1652 [16:12] <Dudeio> It's probably just lagging
#1653 [16:12] <lemon-rev> ok dudeio save
#1654 [16:13] <Dudeio> Your computer or connection can't handle it
#1655 [16:13] <Dudeio> Braxadde, if you're hosting the server just type in localhost when connecting instead of an IP adress
#1656 [16:13] <Dudeio> So, lemon, what next?
#1657 [16:13] <lemon-rev> dudeio once saved open your server and put your ip from www.whatsmyip.org into minecraft muliplayer and see if it connects
#1658 [16:13] <lemon-rev> np
#1659 [16:14] <Braxadde> yeah but i CAN join its my friend that cant
#1660 [16:14] <Dudeio> Woo!
#1661 [16:14] <lemon-rev> braxadde what adress you useing braxadde for your friends
#1662 [16:14] <Dudeio> Worked :D
#1663 [16:14] <lemon-rev> sweet
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#1665 [16:14] <Braxadde> i give them the external IP
#1666 [16:14] <alex_briggs> Hey #minecrafthelp
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#1668 [16:14] <Dudeio> Wanna ditch this chat and play with me lemon? :D
#1669 [16:14] <alex_briggs> What's th best OS to use for a server?
#1670 [16:14] <lemon-rev> so paste in here with !check infront of it, and press entere
#1671 [16:14] <alex_briggs> the*
#1672 [16:15] <Braxadde> please help!
#1673 [16:15] <lemon-rev> brax
#1674 [16:15] <lemon-rev> type
#1675 [16:15] <Braxadde> yeah?
#1676 [16:15] <lemon-rev> !check your internal ip
#1677 [16:15] <lemon-rev> so
#1678 [16:15] <Solvius> whats this about lag? is that a problem for minecraft?
#1679 [16:15] <lemon-rev> !check 222.222.222.222
#1680 [16:15] <g1mckenzie> what other applications use port 25565?
#1681 [16:15] <lemon-rev> brax
#1682 [16:16] <xales> alex_briggs: linux
#1683 [16:16] <Braxadde> should i type my internal IP in numbers?
#1684 [16:16] <xales> also, please stop toying with the bot
#1685 [16:16] <xales> :)
#1686 [16:16] <lemon-rev> the ip you use for your server
#1687 [16:16] <lemon-rev> the one your givving your friends
#1688 [16:16] <Braxadde> !check 192.168.0.111
#1689 [16:16] <xales> wrong IP
#1690 [16:16] <lemon-rev> whats the other one
#1691 [16:16] <Dudeio> !check 195.0.200.179
#1692 [16:16] <lemon-rev> ok
#1693 [16:16] <Dudeio> Wo!
#1694 [16:16] <g1mckenzie> !check 56749.58375.38573.3848585894
#1695 [16:16] <Braxadde> !check 46.59.39.81
#1696 [16:16] <lemon-rev> so give your friends that ip brax
#1697 [16:17] <g1mckenzie> dammit
#1698 [16:17] <g1mckenzie> oh yay
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#1700 [16:17] <g1mckenzie> hmm
#1701 [16:17] <g1mckenzie> what else could i do
#1702 [16:17] <lemon-rev> gimic wtf
#1703 [16:17] <Braxadde> i give my friends the external IP but they cant join
#1704 [16:17] <g1mckenzie> !check lemon
#1705 [16:17] <xales> Braxadde: did you set up port forwarding?
#1706 [16:17] <Braxadde> yeah
#1707 [16:17] <g1mckenzie> this is fun
#1708 [16:17] <xales> did you do it right?
#1709 [16:17] <Braxadde> yeah
#1710 [16:18] <xales> g1mckenzie: stop playing with the bot. LAST warning
#1711 [16:18] <g1mckenzie> sorry D:
#1712 [16:18] <lemon-rev> ok brax get your server running ill try it
#1713 [16:18] <lemon-rev> lol
#1714 [16:18] <Braxadde> my server is already running:D
#1715 [16:18] <g1mckenzie> can you make a bot i can play with ;)
#1716 [16:18] <lemon-rev> trying
#1717 [16:18] <xales> no
#1718 [16:18] <lemon-rev> im in
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#1720 [16:18] <g1mckenzie> aww
#1721 [16:18] <g1mckenzie> you're boring :P
#1722 [16:18] <Braxadde> your on my server?
#1723 [16:18] <xales> bots arent toys
#1724 [16:18] <Halsh> Minecraft Classic is still going black after a second, it pops up for like 1/2 a second and then goes black
#1725 [16:18] <xales> >.>
#1726 [16:18] <g1mckenzie> some of them are
#1727 [16:19] <Braxadde> i dont think your on my server?
#1728 [16:19] <g1mckenzie> does the bot just check the servers?
#1729 [16:19] <g1mckenzie> see if they work
#1730 [16:19] <xales> Halsh: what kind of computer are you trying to run it on? desktop/laptop? how dated is it
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#1732 [16:19] <Braxadde> Lemon?
#1733 [16:19] <lemon-rev> yea im on
#1734 [16:19] <lemon-rev> just great lagg
#1735 [16:19] <lemon-rev> im standing on ice
#1736 [16:19] <Braxadde> then its not my server...
#1737 [16:19] <Solvius> Xjet has lag on my server, isnt that a common problem ?
#1738 [16:20] <g1mckenzie> does the bot just check servers, to see if they work?
#1739 [16:20] <Braxadde> my server is just grass
#1740 [16:20] <nipper> !check mc.shackx.net
#1741 [16:20] <lemon-rev> nice structor there brax
#1742 [16:20] <Braxadde> and it doesnt say anything about anyone joining
#1743 [16:20] <g1mckenzie> !check 86.146.176.10
#1744 [16:20] <Braxadde> what?
#1745 [16:20] <g1mckenzie> aww
#1746 [16:20] <Braxadde> your not on my server LEMON
#1747 [16:21] <lemon-rev> ok
#1748 [16:21] <xales> Braxadde: are you running a Classic server?
#1749 [16:21] <Braxadde> no...
#1750 [16:21] <Xjet> anyone know about crashing client randomly ?
#1751 [16:21] <lemon-rev> brax hm
#1752 [16:21] <xales> Xjet: thats not very descriptive
#1753 [16:21] <lemon-rev> give me tick
#1754 [16:21] <xales> when you say crash, what specifically happens
#1755 [16:21] <nipper> Xjet Try making sure your using the newest sunjava
#1756 [16:21] <xales> does it freeze? does it disappear? is there an error on the desktop?
#1757 [16:21] <g1mckenzie> Are there any other applications that use port 25565
#1758 [16:21] <Braxadde> what you mean tick`
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#1760 [16:21] <Halsh> I'm running a desktop.. The odd thing is, it worked fine yesterday. I could load and run around/do stuff on singleplayer and multiplayer minecraft classic. However, today, after turning on my computer it wont work
#1761 [16:21] <Braxadde> ??
#1762 [16:22] <lemon-rev> brax, i ment brb
#1763 [16:22] <lemon-rev> ok
#1764 [16:22] <lemon-rev> anyways
#1765 [16:22] <Braxadde> ok
#1766 [16:22] <lemon-rev> now
#1767 [16:22] <Braxadde> now what?
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#1769 [16:22] <Xjet> freeze , windows empty with black
#1770 [16:22] <xales> g1mckenzie: possibly, or you just have a ghost minecraft server. ports aren't application specific, anything can use any port
#1771 [16:22] <lemon-rev> your server whats the ip again ill try yours
#1772 [16:22] <Braxadde> 46.59.39.81
#1773 [16:22] <lemon-rev> i was testing dudios thing
#1774 [16:22] <xales> Xjet: what graphics card do you have
#1775 [16:22] <Nedk> can i run minecraft in linux MInt?
#1776 [16:22] <Nedk> MInt*
#1777 [16:23] <g1mckenzie> Xales, i cant use 25565 as a minecraft port, it says it is being used already
#1778 [16:23] <Xjet> SLI 9800m GTX
#1779 [16:23] <xales> Halsh: when you say doesn't work, what happens again?
#1780 [16:23] <lemon-rev> ok its jst sitting there
#1781 [16:23] <lemon-rev> !check 46.59.39.81
#1782 [16:23] <nipper> Nedk If it supports java then yes.
#1783 [16:23] <g1mckenzie> my bt home hub comes with a pre made list of forwarded ports
#1784 [16:23] <xales> g1mckenzie: use netstat to see whats using the port then
#1785 [16:23] <g1mckenzie> ok
#1786 [16:23] <Halsh> It flashes a loading bar then goes black
#1787 [16:23] <xales> Xjet: check that the card isn't overheating or something
#1788 [16:23] <Braxadde> what you mean just sitting there?
#1789 [16:23] <lemon-rev> brax have you portforwded correctly
#1790 [16:23] <Braxadde> yes
#1791 [16:23] <g1mckenzie> how can i do that?
#1792 [16:23] <Braxadde> after the portforward.com guide
#1793 [16:23] <g1mckenzie> xales, how do i get netstat
#1794 [16:23] <lemon-rev> have or are you running a firewall
#1795 [16:23] <lemon-rev> ok then
#1796 [16:23] <xales> g1mckenzie: try googling it
#1797 [16:24] <Braxadde> i have closed em
#1798 [16:24] <Xjet> i play on starcraft2 every day on high perf
#1799 [16:24] <Halsh> When I click it my mouse disappears, but can press esc to get it back. I don't hear any sounds if I press any movement/action keys
#1800 [16:24] <lemon-rev> what you mean you have closed , are you running a firewall or have you also opened up port 25565
#1801 [16:24] <xales> Halsh: if you are running any antivirus, turn it off. also, keep in mind there is no guarantee classic will work in any way as it is outdated and no longer supported
#1802 [16:24] <Braxadde> but im thinkin of putting them back on so anyone here doesnt hack my computer now...
#1803 [16:25] <xales> Xjet: that is irrelevant; minecraft uses a completely different technology to interface with the graphics card
#1804 [16:25] <Braxadde> i have portforwarded my port 25565 and i have shut down every firewall
#1805 [16:25] <lemon-rev> hm
#1806 [16:25] <lemon-rev> i see
#1807 [16:25] <g1mckenzie> i got it, it dosent say anything is using it xales
#1808 [16:25] <lemon-rev> ok then
#1809 [16:25] <Halsh> The same thing in general happens with Minecraft Beta.. So I think it's something to do with my computer rather than an issue with the game
#1810 [16:25] <xales> g1mckenzie: its built into your computer; try looking up how to use it >.>
#1811 [16:25] <lemon-rev> well its a wonder cause your ip brax is still giving a check error
#1812 [16:25] <lemon-rev> !check 46.59.39.81
#1813 [16:25] <g1mckenzie> xales, i already have used it
#1814 [16:25] <xales> Braxadde: you port forwarded incorrectly then
#1815 [16:25] <g1mckenzie> xales, it dosent say anything is using that port
#1816 [16:26] <xales> g1mckenzie: then nothing is using it
#1817 [16:26] <Halsh> It pops up a little bar with "Done Loading" above it, green most of the way across (small black area at the end) but other than that it just goes black
#1818 [16:26] <Braxadde> how can i have portforwarded it incorrectly... its not that many ways to do it...
#1819 [16:26] <Xjet> xales : i will reinstalle java
#1820 [16:26] <xales> Braxadde: there are several things you can type in wrong
#1821 [16:26] <Nedk> who wants to help me dual boot win 7 and mint 10
#1822 [16:26] <Halsh> I can hear menu buttons if I spam mouseclick in the middle
#1823 [16:26] <lemon-rev> thats true, that port you have forwareded it , what port where you useing
#1824 [16:26] <lemon-rev> yea
#1825 [16:26] <xales> Nedk: try asking elsewhere, this is not the place you can get help with that
#1826 [16:26] <lemon-rev> no i mean like ip, brax
#1827 [16:26] <Braxadde> 25565 i used
#1828 [16:26] <g1mckenzie> xales, my home hub comes with a list of pre forwarded ports, theres about 60 of them. one of them is probably using it
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#1830 [16:27] <g1mckenzie> xales, all the ports are for well known games like call of duty.
#1831 [16:27] <g1mckenzie> xales, how do i check what one is using 25565
#1832 [16:27] <Braxadde> i used my internal ip for the port forwarding
#1833 [16:27] <xales> g1mckenzie: port forwarding is irrelevant; it only matters if a program is using it, even if it is port forwarded wrong/to another computer
#1834 [16:27] <Braxadde> i have a netgear router
#1835 [16:27] <xales> also, you said you did using netstat
#1836 [16:27] <g1mckenzie> well
#1837 [16:27] <xales> Braxadde: that doesn't help - almost every router is different
#1838 [16:27] <lemon-rev> then maybe you need to reboot it, or something
#1839 [16:28] <g1mckenzie> it wont let me create the port
#1840 [16:28] <Braxadde> hm...
#1841 [16:28] <xales> take a screenshot of your port forwarding rule and post it on the itnernet somewhere
#1842 [16:28] <Braxadde> ok wait
#1843 [16:28] <Coll> how do I change spawn points in SMP
#1844 [16:28] <xales> g1mckenzie: try restarting your computer
#1845 [16:28] <g1mckenzie> when i enter all the correct details i try to assign it to my computer. it says it is already being used
#1846 [16:28] <g1mckenzie> ok
#1847 [16:28] <xales> Coll: you can't without a mod/map editor
#1848 [16:28] <Coll> aw
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#1850 [16:30] <Braxadde> http://www.mediafire.com/?n2nc87b3yvcc1hz theres a picture
#1851 [16:31] <Braxadde> did u get it?
#1852 [16:31] <xales> in the future, upload pictures to websites that let me view the picture, rather than wait to download it. examples: imgur.com, etc
#1853 [16:31] <lemon-rev> dude brax
#1854 [16:31] <lemon-rev> yea
#1855 [16:31] <Braxadde> ok
#1856 [16:31] <Braxadde> ?
#1857 [16:31] <lemon-rev> brax your last server ip isnt in the box
#1858 [16:31] <lemon-rev> you have 192.168.0.
#1859 [16:31] <lemon-rev> but your
#1860 [16:31] <lemon-rev> server ip i
#1861 [16:31] <Braxadde> no...
#1862 [16:32] <lemon-rev> looks good
#1863 [16:32] <Braxadde> its the one below thats named minecraft
#1864 [16:32] <Braxadde> it has the server IP adress 192.168.0.111
#1865 [16:32] <lemon-rev> well that looks correct for us
#1866 [16:32] <lemon-rev> yup yup, ok
#1867 [16:32] <lemon-rev> so i wonder why it wont go
#1868 [16:32] <lemon-rev> :(
#1869 [16:32] <Braxadde> yeah...
#1870 [16:32] <Dudeio> der
#1871 [16:32] <Dudeio> derp
#1872 [16:33] <Braxadde> i even have a static IP
#1873 [16:33] <xales> Braxadde: are you sure that the local IP is correct?
#1874 [16:33] <Dudeio> I don't have static IP
#1875 [16:33] <Dudeio> Just type in localhost
#1876 [16:33] <Dudeio> if it's yours
#1877 [16:33] <Dudeio> You could try hamachi
#1878 [16:33] <xales> Dudeio: thats not helpful
#1879 [16:33] <Dudeio> Connect to his computer
#1880 [16:33] <xales> also, hamachi is not fast enough to host a minecraft server
#1881 [16:33] <Dudeio> And type in local host?
#1882 [16:33] <Dudeio> hmmm
#1883 [16:33] <Braxadde> my ip is correct yes
#1884 [16:34] <Dudeio> Give it to me, I'll try to connect
#1885 [16:34] <xales> Braxadde: what do you have the IP line set to in server.properties
#1886 [16:34] <Braxadde> but i shouldnt type my external IP in the router portforwarding right?
#1887 [16:34] <Braxadde> Its blank in server properties
#1888 [16:34] <xales> and the port is 25565?
#1889 [16:35] <Braxadde> yes
#1890 [16:35] <xales> and you are sure you have firewalls turned off
#1891 [16:35] <Braxadde> yes
#1892 [16:35] <xales> out of curiosity, what specifically did you turn off
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#1894 [16:35] <Braxadde> nod32 smart security and windows firewall
#1895 [16:35] <Halsh> >.<
#1896 [16:35] <aetherian> I swear
#1897 [16:36] <aetherian> in #smp , when it annoys me, they will advertise to no end, but when I'm bored and want a server, it's dead
#1898 [16:36] <aetherian> not right
#1899 [16:36] <xales> Braxadde: and you are sure that "smart security" is completely disabled, and that you are not running any additional "security" software?
#1900 [16:36] <Halsh> Any ideas as to what I can do? I've tried reinstalling Java and that didn't help any :(
#1901 [16:36] <Xjet> on solvius server, when i destroy some block, it reappear instanly
#1902 [16:36] <Xjet> not all block, just a fex
#1903 [16:36] <xales> Halsh: try reinstalling minecraft. instructions here: http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#1904 [16:36] <Braxadde> i have no other security software and i canceled the nod32 process
#1905 [16:37] <xales> Xjet: did you leave the spawn area? are you allowed to destroy blocks? server may be preventing you on purpose
#1906 [16:37] <lemon-rev> xjet your trying to do something near spawn stop and step away from the spawn point till you can havest
#1907 [16:37] <xales> talk to the server admin; we can't help you with servers we don't run
#1908 [16:37] <Braxadde> me?
#1909 [16:37] <xales> Braxadde: stopping the process is not enough;
#1910 [16:37] <Braxadde> really?
#1911 [16:37] <Xjet> ok, that it
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#1913 [16:37] <xales> you need to use the control panel for the software to disable it
#1914 [16:37] <Braxadde> ok wait
#1915 [16:37] <xales> the process you stopped was probably just the control panel process
#1916 [16:38] <Halsh> xales: I'll do that now
#1917 [16:38] <Braxadde> wait asec
#1918 [16:39] <Braxadde> now i have disabled the firewall in no32
#1919 [16:39] <Xjet> java updated, game crash anyway : black window, music on
#1920 [16:39] <xales> Xjet: reinstall minecraft. follow instructions on http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#1921 [16:40] <Kass> how do i use hamachi in order to make my server joinable guys?
#1922 [16:40] <xales> you can't use hamachi
#1923 [16:40] <xales> it is not fast enough
#1924 [16:40] <Kass> but srsly.... they are stuck on logging in, something is definatly wrong.. ive set EVERYTHING correctly mate
#1925 [16:40] <xales> hamachi won't fix that
#1926 [16:41] <xales> what do you see in the server log
#1927 [16:41] <Kass> u sure?
#1928 [16:41] <xales> when they try to log in
#1929 [16:41] <xales> absolutely sure
#1930 [16:41] <xales> hamachi helps them connect to you, which they are doing just fine, because they see the login screen
#1931 [16:41] <Kass> nothing.. but when im using wired internet i get stuck on connecting to server and when im using wireless i get stuck on logging in, and everything is set correctly
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#1933 [16:42] <xales> first of all, you can't host a server on wireless. that just won't work
#1934 [16:42] <Kass> im wired now
#1935 [16:42] <xales> second, when you change to wired, your IP will change, so you have to redo the port forward
#1936 [16:42] <Dmoe> hello logged out of a game whilst i was under ground now i carnt log back in all it says is Loading Terrain anyone got any ideas how to fix this only seems to be on the one server
#1937 [16:42] <Kass> .... oh, hangon
#1938 [16:43] <xales> Dmoe: we can't help you if we don't run the server. talk to the server administrator
#1939 [16:43] <Dmoe> oh ok
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#1941 [16:45] <Fenard> hi everyone, I have aproblem, ive been told its a lag issue, but i cant figure out how to solve it
#1942 [16:45] <Fenard> when i log into any serer, i see no blocks and start falling and cant chat
#1943 [16:45] <Xjet> how, minecraft works in full screen o_O
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#1945 [16:45] <xales> Fenard: how many servers have you tried to connect to
#1946 [16:45] <Halsh> <Halsh> Ok, I reinstalled minecraft.. after the download bar was full I was met with the black screen again
#1947 [16:45] <Fenard> about 4
#1948 [16:45] <Fenard> 5 but one just didnt connect
#1949 [16:46] <xales> Halsh: unfortunately, Classic isn't supported and it is much harder to diagnose issues. I suggest trying on another computer or purchasing Beta if you want to continue to play
#1950 [16:46] <Halsh> That's not on Classic
#1951 [16:46] <xales> Fenard: and you are playing Beta/Survival, correct?
#1952 [16:46] <Halsh> That's on Beta
#1953 [16:46] <Fenard> Yes
#1954 [16:46] <xales> Halsh: I thought you said it was on classic >.>
#1955 [16:46] <Fenard> I just bought it about an hour ago.
#1956 [16:46] <Halsh> Sorry, I didn't make myself clear >.<
#1957 [16:47] <xales> Fenard: try other servers, and check your internet connection speed
#1958 [16:47] <Fenard> i have cable, i can pull 2mg downloads
#1959 [16:47] <xales> Halsh: try running it in your browser
#1960 [16:47] <Fenard> ill keep trying servers though
#1961 [16:47] <Halsh> I bought Beta after going on classic yesterday and seeing there were no issues. After turning on my computer today and buying it, it doesn't work.
#1962 [16:48] <Halsh> Same thing happens in browser as happens when I run the .exe : a black screen is all the video output I see
#1963 [16:48] <Fenard> I just bought it to play mutliplay mainly, and i cant so fair :/
#1964 [16:48] <xales> Halsh: are you using the download (.exe) version or the one in the browser
#1965 [16:48] <xales> Fenard: the problem is likely with the servers then
#1966 [16:48] <Fenard> :/ I hope so
#1967 [16:48] <xales> Halsh: what are the specs on your computer
#1968 [16:48] <xales> Fenard: also, what are specs on your computer
#1969 [16:49] <Fenard> Can you reccomend a server for me? I live on the west coast of the US, if not ill stick to browsing the list.
#1970 [16:49] <xales> Fenard: try smp.shadow-craft.net
#1971 [16:49] <Halsh> Could you specify what bits you want to know? I'm not good with general questions.
#1972 [16:49] <xales> Halsh: Graphics card, CPU, RAM
#1973 [16:50] <Halsh> NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 graphics card, Intel Core 2 Duo 3 GHz, 4GB RAM
#1974 [16:50] <Xjet> what about runnning minecraft server/client on Android ?
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#1977 [16:51] <xales> Xjet: hahahahaha. no, that would not work. sorry :/
#1978 [16:51] <Kass> Xales, we fixed it xD thanks for telling me the diff local ip.. it helped out
#1979 [16:51] <Fenard> my specs are, Radeon x800 Pro/GTO, AMD athlon 64 3200+, 1gig ram
#1980 [16:51] <xales> Halsh: are you running any antivirus?
#1981 [16:51] <xales> Kass: cool
#1982 [16:51] <Halsh> As I said, it worked fine yesterday after updating my java. This is what it was like before I updated my java, but it worked after. I've already reinstalled it, but that doesn't seem to have fixed it.
#1983 [16:51] <aetherian> ahh
#1984 [16:52] <aetherian> minecraft is using 1.2 gigabytes
#1985 [16:52] <aetherian> of ram
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#1987 [16:52] <aetherian> whew
#1988 [16:52] <xales> Halsh: did you see my question about antivirus
#1989 [16:52] <Halsh> I've got Avira AV, free version
#1990 [16:52] <xales> Fenard: whats the CPU speed?
#1991 [16:52] <Fenard> hmm i think i have more ram than that i cant remember
#1992 [16:52] <Kass> bujt xales, how do i fix so i can do /sethome and /home?
#1993 [16:52] <Fenard> how do i check that?
#1994 [16:52] <xales> Kass: you have to install a server mod, which we don't support here.
#1995 [16:53] <Fenard> <-- not the birghtest with computers, sorry
#1996 [16:53] <xales> Fenard: http://www.piriform.com/speccy/download/standard
#1997 [16:53] <Kass> dont support? does that mean that u cant tell me how to install?
#1998 [16:53] <Fenard> im guess thatll tell me the speed
#1999 [16:53] <xales> Kass: you can try using the documentation of the mod, which will tell you how to install it. we cannot, however, help you with it, or hold your hand while you install it
#2000 [16:54] <Kass> okay thanks xales
#2001 [16:54] <Fenard> AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 48 °C
#2002 [16:54] <Fenard> NewCastle 0.13um Technology
#2003 [16:54] <Fenard> thats what it says for my cpu
#2004 [16:54] <xales> Fenard: thats not helpful >.>
#2005 [16:54] <xales> post what it says for Video
#2006 [16:55] <xales> and RAM
#2007 [16:55] <Fenard> oh i thought you wanted the CPU im sorry, Graphics
#2008 [16:55] <Fenard> 17" TFT-LCD @ 1024x768
#2009 [16:55] <Fenard> 256MB RADEON X800 PRO/GTO (ATI),
#2010 [16:55] <Fenard> RAM
#2011 [16:55] <Fenard> 1.0GB Single-Channel DDR @ 200MHz (3-3-3-8)
#2012 [16:55] <xales> yeah
#2013 [16:55] <xales> looks like the biggest problem is that your computer doesn't meet the requirements to run Minecraft
#2014 [16:56] <Fenard> but i can play single player? q.q
#2015 [16:56] <xales> multiplayer will use more ram
#2016 [16:56] <Fenard> i hate wasting money :/
#2017 [16:56] <xales> and will be bogged down more with swapping
#2018 [16:56] <Kass> xales.. u really gotta help me with this... it says Extract the 2 files from the RAR file (use WinRar)
#2019 [16:56] <Kass> Open the Minecraft_server.jar with WinRar
#2020 [16:56] <Kass> but im using the exe version
#2021 [16:56] <Kass> so how am i supposed to change it back to exe version later?
#2022 [16:56] <xales> you can't
#2023 [16:57] <Fenard> Thanks for the help +xales
#2024 [16:57] <xales> you have to use the jar version
#2025 [16:57] <xales> Fenard: no problem
#2026 [16:57] <Halsh> ...
#2027 [16:57] <Kass> well that was ****
#2028 [16:57] <Kass> ok ima download it
#2029 [16:57] <xales> Halsh: try running it with avira completely off
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#2032 [17:00] <Halsh> Ok
#2033 [17:00] <Halsh> Do you want me to restart my computer too? Or just disable avira?
#2034 [17:00] <xales> just disable it
#2035 [17:01] <Halsh> I've disabled Guard, still running into black video output.
#2036 [17:02] <xales> what else do you currently have open
#2037 [17:02] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2038 [17:02] <xales> !reload mod_kealper
#2039 [17:02] <Kealper> !enable
#2040 [17:02] <Kealper> !disable
#2041 [17:02] <Kealper> !help
#2042 [17:02] <Halsh> Steam, Firefox, mIRC and Windows Task Manager
#2043 [17:03] <Kealper[Test]> !help
#2044 [17:03] <Kealper[Test]> shit.
#2045 [17:03] <xales> !help
#2046 [17:03] <xales> !server
#2047 [17:03] <xales> well
#2048 [17:03] <xales> somewhat works
#2049 [17:03] <Kealper[Test]> back to the drawing board!
#2050 [17:03] <xales> Halsh: copy the list of processes from task manager (the processes tab) and paste it on pastebin.com
#2051 [17:04] <Kealper[Test]> oh....lol i know what i did...forgot to make the commands actually change the state of $Disabled
#2052 [17:04] <Halsh> processes from all users ticked or unticked?
#2053 [17:05] <Kealper[Test]> !reload mod_mchelp
#2054 [17:05] <Kealper[Test]> ....
#2055 [17:05] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2056 [17:05] <xales> Halsh: all users
#2057 [17:05] <Kass> when i changed back the jar file it just gives errors... is that weird?
#2058 [17:05] <Kealper> !disable
#2059 [17:05] <Halsh> ok
#2060 [17:05] <Kealper> !help
#2061 [17:05] <xales> Kass: you have to use a .bat file to launch it
#2062 [17:05] <Kealper> someone type !help
#2063 [17:05] <Kass> Kealper.. we've got it working now... there was just something wrong about my ip so my uncle fixed it :p
#2064 [17:05] <barrycarlyon> !help
#2065 [17:06] <barrycarlyon> nothing
#2066 [17:06] <Kealper> ok then
#2067 [17:06] <Kass> ooh thanks
#2068 [17:06] <Kealper> !enable
#2069 [17:06] <Kealper> and now?
#2070 [17:06] <barrycarlyon> !help
#2071 [17:06] <barrycarlyon> Success.
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#2073 [17:06] <Halsh> Unless I missed something, I can't copy -> paste. Do you want me to manually copy?
#2074 [17:06] <barrycarlyon> !server
#2075 [17:06] <barrycarlyon> :-D
#2076 [17:06] <Xjet> monster can swimm... too bad
#2077 [17:06] <xales> Halsh: maximize the window and screen shot it
#2078 [17:07] <Halsh> .. That makes sense.. >.<
#2079 [17:07] <xales> !disable
#2080 [17:07] <xales> !enable
#2081 [17:07] <aetherian> help
#2082 [17:07] <aetherian> me
#2083 [17:07] <Kealper> i'm also going to make it send me a message each time a command is used, and who sent it
#2084 [17:07] <aetherian> I know you probably get this a lot
#2085 [17:07] <aetherian> and it probably ticks you guys off to no end
#2086 [17:07] <Xjet> !help
#2087 [17:07] <aetherian> but
#2088 [17:07] <Xjet> !tutorial
#2089 [17:07] <aetherian> why the heck is minecraft multiplayer having such a delay?
#2090 [17:07] <Kass> xales, should i change the jar file into a bat file or a notepad with the text java -xmx1024blablabla?
#2091 [17:08] <Kealper> aetherian: beacuse the server you are on is half way across the planet
#2092 [17:08] <Kealper> or the host is on dialup
#2093 [17:08] <xales> Kass: no, you don't change it into anything. you create a new fule
#2094 [17:08] <aetherian> well then
#2095 [17:08] <aetherian> everyone I know
#2096 [17:08] <xales> file*
#2097 [17:08] <aetherian> is halfway across the planet
#2098 [17:08] <Halsh> Seeing as I can't paste an image into pastebin.. Alternate site?
#2099 [17:08] <Kass> alright.. i create a new file into bat
#2100 [17:08] <xales> Halsh: imgur or something like that
#2101 [17:09] <Kealper> aetherian: does your internet suck? if no, or partially, is someone downloading music/movies/warez?
#2102 [17:09] <Halsh> Want me to trim out the giant expanse of white area?
#2103 [17:09] <aetherian> I don't think anyone is downloading stuff
#2104 [17:09] <aetherian> and if my internet sucks, then we just got a faulty router
#2105 [17:09] <xales> Halsh: doesn't matter
#2106 [17:10] <xales> just upload the picture
#2107 [17:10] <aetherian> but my internet is fine
#2108 [17:10] <aetherian> anywhere else
#2109 [17:10] <Halsh> Ok
#2110 [17:10] <Kealper> idk....servers that are close to me are fine
#2111 [17:11] <Kass> okay xales, i dont understand what im supposed to do to make the jar file kept opened again :s
#2112 [17:11] <xales> Kass: what?
#2113 [17:11] <Halsh> xales: http://imgur.com/F5Clq
#2114 [17:11] <xales> you have to make a bat file with "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#2115 [17:11] <xales> and put that in the same folder as the .jar
#2116 [17:12] <Kass> yes but it closes down after 0.5 seconds
#2117 [17:12] <xales> then you did it wrong
#2118 [17:12] <aetherian> !ping
#2119 [17:12] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.391 Seconds.
#2120 [17:12] <aetherian> hum
#2121 [17:12] <Kass> hmmmmmm
#2122 [17:13] <Kass> also the jar file closes after like 0.5 second after i installed the mod
#2123 [17:13] <xales> then you installed the mod wrong
#2124 [17:13] <xales> !ping
#2125 [17:13] <GreyBot> xales Your Ping time was 3.064 Seconds.
#2126 [17:14] <xales> lol
#2127 [17:14] <Kass> oh
#2128 [17:14] <xales> Halsh: it looks like your antivirus is still running
#2129 [17:14] <Kealper> that bot's ping is very unreliable, as it uses ctcp ping instead of something like icmp ping
#2130 [17:15] <Halsh> I must've misunderstood.. Did you mean disable or kill the processes?
#2131 [17:16] <xales> disable the antivirus software completely
#2132 [17:16] <xales> it should close the processes when its not running
#2133 [17:17] <Halsh> ..
#2134 [17:17] <Halsh> Because the program has the option to turn it off, however the processes still keep running.
#2135 [17:18] <aetherian> nice ping, xall
#2136 [17:18] <xales> I have no other ideas then; try posting on the minecraft forum, someone there may have experienced a similar problem as yours and have an answer
#2137 [17:18] <xales> aetherian: I have a delay on CTCPs intentionally >.>
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#2139 [17:18] <aetherian> I'd wait three seconds to answer
#2140 [17:19] <aetherian> but I don't need to!
#2141 [17:19] <Halsh> If this helps: when running the .exe, I see the login screen fine and can log in, after that it goes to the loading bar for half a second, then blackness
#2142 [17:19] <xales> !ping
#2143 [17:19] <GreyBot> xales Your Ping time was 3.004 Seconds.
#2144 [17:19] <aetherian> see
#2145 [17:19] <aetherian> 3 seconds
#2146 [17:19] <xales> 3 second delay for the win
#2147 [17:19] <xales> xD
#2148 [17:19] <Halsh> And I'll have to manually kill the processes, there's no way to shut the processes down from within the AV
#2149 [17:19] <Kealper> afaik irssi has a 3 sec flood protection thing for repsonding to ping
#2150 [17:19] <Kealper> well, ctcp
#2151 [17:19] <xales> Halsh: thats normal, before the login screen the game hasn't actually booted yet
#2152 [17:19] <Halsh> ok
#2153 [17:20] <xales> Halsh: make sure you tried reinstalling it
#2154 [17:20] <Halsh> Already have
#2155 [17:20] <xales> (deleting %appdata%/.minecraft/bin)
#2156 [17:20] <Halsh> Delete the .minecraft folder, right?
#2157 [17:20] <xales> and redownload the .exe
#2158 [17:20] <xales> yes
#2159 [17:20] <Halsh> Yeah, did that
#2160 [17:20] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2161 [17:20] <xales> !load mod_mud
#2162 [17:20] <xales> start
#2163 [17:21] <xales> D:
#2164 [17:21] <Kealper> lol
#2165 [17:21] <xales> stupid bot
#2166 [17:21] * GreyBot bonks xales, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#2166 [17:21] <Kealper> hmm....that timestamping is horrid
#2167 [17:22] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2168 [17:22] <Halsh> Seems I'm unable to shut the processes or services, and there's no way to shut the av down from within itself >.>
#2169 [17:22] <Kealper> oh my...still not quite....forgot line returns...
#2170 [17:23] <Kealper> i'll get this right eventually >.>
#2171 [17:23] <xales> Halsh: I don't think thats the issue then
#2172 [17:24] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
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#2174 [17:24] <xales> as I said, try posting on the forum or talking to your local computer guru (who would be able to help you further, as they could actually interact with your computer)
#2175 [17:25] <Halsh> hmm, thanks for the help anyway xales :)
#2176 [17:25] <xales> Halsh: no problem, good luck with getting it to run
#2177 [17:25] <xales> ...wait
#2178 [17:26] <xales> you DID update your graphics drivers, right
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#2181 [17:26] <Halsh> They should be up to date.. I'm going to hit myself if that's the problem.
#2182 [17:26] <xales> double check
#2183 [17:26] <Kealper> !test
#2184 [17:27] <xales> !test
#2185 [17:27] <Kealper> !test once more, hopefully i got this right
#2186 [17:27] <xales> !test once more, hopefully he got this right
#2187 [17:27] <Kealper> ok, nice and formatted now
#2188 [17:27] <Halsh> Yup, no new updates
#2189 [17:27] <xales> !load mod_console
#2190 [17:27] <Kealper> xales: you're not set as a bot owner, just owner of that module lol
#2191 [17:27] <Kass> okay xales, i installed the mod right but when im extracting it says The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process
#2192 [17:27] <xales> Kealper: D:
#2193 [17:28] <xales> !kick Kealper
#2194 [17:28] <xales> :'(
#2195 [17:28] <xales> Kass: did you try closing it?
#2196 [17:28] <Kealper> changing owners requires a core restart, since it was never meant to be changed
#2197 [17:28] <Kass> closing what?
#2198 [17:28] <Kass> the server yes
#2199 [17:28] <xales> what file specifically...
#2200 [17:29] <xales> actually, its 5:30, I have to get some dinner. Kealper can help though
#2201 [17:29] <Kass> okay
#2202 [17:29] <Kass> :)
#2203 [17:29] <Kealper> help? dang i was hoping to go afk for sleep....only got 4 hours last night -.-
#2204 [17:29] <Kass> Its alright, i can fix by my own.. have a nice sleep mate
#2205 [17:30] <liquidengineer> Hello.
#2206 [17:31] <Kass> i actually fixed it... thanks Kealper xD
#2207 [17:31] <Kass> Now u can go to sleep :)
#2208 [17:31] <xales> liquidengineer: hello
#2209 [17:31] <liquidengineer> I'm trying to make a pit trap with a glass roof. I've dug a nice sized pit and lined it with cobblestone, and built a roof made of glass. The idea being that when monsters spawn, they will then be burned to death upon sunrise. I even covered the roof with gravel, so I get lots of mobs before I let in the light.
#2210 [17:32] <liquidengineer> Except, nothing spawns in the pit.
#2211 [17:32] <liquidengineer> Am I doing something wrong?
#2212 [17:32] <liquidengineer> Is there, like, a minimum depth requirement? I'm seeing creepers and skeletons spawn on the surface AROUND the pit...
#2213 [17:32] <lemon-rev> you need a spawner
#2214 [17:32] <liquidengineer> ...I thought they just spawned in the dark?
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#2216 [17:33] <lemon-rev> they do but not in a pacific place
#2217 [17:33] <liquidengineer> ah.
#2218 [17:33] <liquidengineer> I didn't think you could obtain spawners except via a hack
#2219 [17:33] <xales> you can't
#2220 [17:33] <lemon-rev> possibly, you have to find one
#2221 [17:34] <NinjaKirby> Bit more knarley, but I did a Glass tunnel system over land, with holes for them to notice me. Dragged them into a pit.
#2222 [17:34] <xales> you can find one
#2223 [17:34] <xales> and build a trap around it
#2224 [17:34] <Dudeio> If you have OP rights
#2225 [17:34] <Dudeio> you can spawn it
#2226 [17:34] <xales> ^on a server
#2227 [17:34] <Dudeio> item code is 55
#2228 [17:34] <xales> and that would be a pig spawner
#2229 [17:34] <xales> either way
#2230 [17:34] <cometen> hello
#2231 [17:34] <xales> hello
#2232 [17:34] <cometen> Any knows this Painterly Pack Customized Pack
#2233 [17:35] <liquidengineer> ah
#2234 [17:35] <liquidengineer> I saw someone build a skytrap on MinecraftFTW (the Youtube Channel)
#2235 [17:35] <liquidengineer> I assumed any sealed dark place would spawn monsters. They certainly didn't have trouble filling up theirs
#2236 [17:36] <Halsh> xales: seeing as you're still here.. It seems it is my graphics driver, oddly enough
#2237 [17:36] <xales> Halsh: ._.
#2238 [17:36] <Halsh> I just did a reinstall of the driver, and then booted the game
#2239 [17:36] <Halsh> and it works
#2240 [17:36] <Halsh> However, it's the same installer I used last time, so same version
#2241 [17:36] <Halsh> So I don't know wtf is going on
#2242 [17:36] <xales> liquidengineer: its mostly random where they spawn
#2243 [17:36] <xales> you have to be somewhat close for them to spawn at all
#2244 [17:36] <liquidengineer> Bummer.
#2245 [17:37] <xales> Halsh: could just be a bad install, it happens on windows all the time
#2246 [17:37] <liquidengineer> I've surrounded my basecamp with like, 100 torches, and half a permenant forrest fire
#2247 [17:37] <cometen> where do I put a texture packs
#2248 [17:37] <liquidengineer> I have to wander off pretty far to find ANYTHING
#2249 [17:37] <liquidengineer> at which point I'm usually ambushed and killed.
#2250 [17:37] <Halsh> Mmm..
#2251 [17:37] <Halsh> Hope I don't need to reinstall every time I want to minecraft it up a bit :s
#2252 [17:37] <liquidengineer> Is there a good guide for setting up a minecraft server?
#2253 [17:38] <xales> cometen: http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_pack
#2254 [17:39] <xales> liquidengineer: no. read the disclaimer in the message that appeared when you joined this chat, please :)
#2255 [17:39] <liquidengineer> I meant like a FAQ or something
#2256 [17:39] <xales> nope
#2257 [17:39] <aetherian> there's a small thing on the wiki
#2258 [17:39] <xales> because most people try to run their server on their home computer
#2259 [17:39] <aetherian> I think
#2260 [17:39] <xales> which is just a stupid idea
#2261 [17:39] <aetherian> oh
#2262 [17:39] <aetherian> right
#2263 [17:39] <liquidengineer> Why?
#2264 [17:39] <xales> and people have a problem with just about everything
#2265 [17:39] <liquidengineer> I mean, where else would most people run it?
#2266 [17:40] <xales> liquidengineer: people think for some reason that running a server is easy, and they can just do it on their computer
#2267 [17:40] <xales> this is not true
#2268 [17:40] <xales> almost everyone has issues that we have to help them resolve
#2269 [17:40] <liquidengineer> Well, yes.
#2270 [17:40] <liquidengineer> I can imagine.
#2271 [17:40] <xales> be it their firewall, port forwarding, internet isn't fast enough, etc. etc. etc.
#2272 [17:40] <aetherian> xales: isn't that why this channel is here?
#2273 [17:40] <xales> aetherian: no
#2274 [17:41] <aetherian> then why doth this channel exist
#2275 [17:41] <xales> to help people with minecraft not setting a server up
#2276 [17:42] <liquidengineer> I'd like to think that a BA in Computer Science would leave me able to do it, but I am smart enough not to make any assumptions. :P
#2277 [17:42] <Solvius> xales I got help with that :)
#2278 [17:42] <xales> liquidengineer: I suggest reevaluating why you want a server. If you have enough technical knowledge, you should have no problem making it work. Otherwise, you can rent one from a provider (like $10/month) or just use someone elses
#2279 [17:42] <feenyx> hence the name #minecrafthelp and not #helpsettingupaminecraftserver
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#2281 [17:42] <xales> feenyx: indeed
#2282 [17:42] <xales> anyway, time for me to eat my dinner
#2283 [17:42] <liquidengineer> xales: a friend and his brothers and I wanted to play in the same world
#2284 [17:42] <Solvius> have a nice dinner
#2285 [17:43] <liquidengineer> (Also, singleplayer minecraft gets a bit creepy. You're alone on a planet full of undead hellspawn that is 5 times the diameter of earth.)
#2286 [17:43] <feenyx> 8 times the square footage
#2287 [17:43] <Dmoe> does anyone kno what the server admin has to do to fix my problem with it saying downloading terrain only problem???? Please
#2288 [17:43] <aetherian> whoa
#2289 [17:43] <Solvius> we need a worls as big as it can gets with hundreds of players, hmmm just dreaming now :)
#2290 [17:43] <NinjaKirby> It's not even that size till you've walked and generated it, presumably.
#2291 [17:44] <liquidengineer> feenyx: That is actually MORE creepy.
#2292 [17:44] <aetherian> well, I'll be sure to direct annoying home computer smp questions to xales, anyway
#2293 [17:44] <feenyx> liquidengineer: I know :p The fact that it'd take several years in real time to walk across it is somewhat intimidating
#2294 [17:44] <liquidengineer> <g>
#2295 [17:45] <liquidengineer> feenyx: Yes. And it is full of nothing except things trying to KILL YOU. Or blow up your carefully crafted stuff. Which is worse.
#2296 [17:45] <liquidengineer> Also, pigs, birds, and cows. Nimble little jerks.
#2297 [17:46] <Dmoe> anyone kno what the fix is for the common problem of being stuck on the Downloading Terrain.... PLease
#2298 [17:46] <Dudeio> Is there some kind of OP command that kills a block?
#2299 [17:47] <aetherian> not in vanilla, I believe
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#2301 [17:47] <aetherian> what block do you need to kill
#2302 [17:47] <Dudeio> Bedrock
#2303 [17:47] <aetherian> some guy place bedrock?
#2304 [17:47] <Dudeio> I did
#2305 [17:47] <Dudeio> I just placed wrong
#2306 [17:47] <aetherian> I know just the trick
#2307 [17:47] <Dudeio> I know the seed trick
#2308 [17:47] <aetherian> oh
#2309 [17:47] <Dudeio> But I can't actually reach above the block
#2310 [17:47] <aetherian> nvm then
#2311 [17:48] <Dudeio> So I tried placing it one block under
#2312 [17:48] <Dudeio> so I could plant it
#2313 [17:48] <lemon-rev> dmoe relog in
#2314 [17:48] <aetherian> ...
#2315 [17:48] <aetherian> you place dirt below it
#2316 [17:48] <aetherian> till it
#2317 [17:48] <aetherian> seed it
#2318 [17:48] <aetherian> what's wrong
#2319 [17:48] <Dudeio> I have no way of actually planting the seed if the block is as close as possible
#2320 [17:49] <Solvius> wool is excelent for killing :)
#2321 [17:49] <aetherian> why can't you plant the seed 'o_O
#2322 [17:49] <Dudeio> But I've gotta go
#2323 [17:49] <Dudeio> I can't reach ontop of the block
#2324 [17:49] <aetherian> so
#2325 [17:49] <Dudeio> To plant the seed you need to point ontop
#2326 [17:49] <aetherian> and why can't you
#2327 [17:49] <Solvius> climb on the block
#2328 [17:49] <Dudeio> There is no room
#2329 [17:49] <aetherian> make room
#2330 [17:49] <Dudeio> Can't
#2331 [17:49] <Dudeio> Bedrock everywhere
#2332 [17:50] <Dudeio> It's like a tower of bedrock
#2333 [17:50] <Dudeio> I made
#2334 [17:50] <Dudeio> But
#2335 [17:50] <aetherian> then delete the other bedrock >.>
#2336 [17:50] <Dudeio> HOW?!
#2337 [17:50] <aetherian> USING THE SEED TRICK
#2338 [17:50] <Dudeio> But then I'd have to delete bedrocks all the way from sea level!
#2339 [17:51] <Dudeio> But I've gotta go
#2340 [17:51] <Dudeio> cya
#2341 [17:51] <aetherian> so?
#2342 [17:51] <aetherian> ARGH
#2343 [17:51] <liquidengineer> Do trees grow back without being planted as saplings?
#2344 [17:51] <aetherian> no
#2345 [17:51] <aetherian> they do not
#2346 [17:51] <aetherian> plant them you lazy bum
#2347 [17:51] <liquidengineer> Ah.
#2348 [17:51] <liquidengineer> Just wondering.
#2349 [17:51] <aetherian> hmmph
#2350 [17:51] <liquidengineer> I've kinda pulled a Captain Plannet Villian on the immediate area.
#2351 [17:51] <liquidengineer> I'm running low on wood
#2352 [17:52] <aetherian> then plant some ding dong trees >:O
#2353 [17:53] * aetherian calms down
#2353 [17:53] <liquidengineer> I have like 50 saplings
#2354 [17:53] <liquidengineer> Do you have to till the earth before you plant the tree?
#2355 [17:53] <liquidengineer> (Hoes are suprisijngly fragile.)
#2356 [17:53] <Diablothein> Nope
#2357 [17:54] <Diablothein> Don't need water either.
#2358 [17:54] <Diablothein> Just light
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#2360 [17:56] <NullEntity> I'm trying to connect to my friend's LAN server. I'm connected to his wireless router. I can ping him fine, but when I try to connect I get "Connection refused: connect"
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#2362 [17:57] <padilin> Did you type in the ip:port?
#2363 [17:57] <NullEntity> Yes
#2364 [17:58] <NullEntity> I even tried changing the server's port, disabling firewalls, etc
#2365 [17:58] <padilin> which ip?
#2366 [17:58] <padilin> the internet or the subnet ip?
#2367 [17:58] <NullEntity> it's a local subnet, 192.168.0.100
#2368 [17:58] <NullEntity> oh, both
#2369 [17:58] <padilin> Hmm...
#2370 [17:58] <padilin> Can he get to his?
#2371 [17:58] <NullEntity> Yeah
#2372 [17:58] <padilin> Default server or a modded one?
#2373 [17:59] <NullEntity> hMod I guess
#2374 [17:59] <padilin> meh
#2375 [17:59] <padilin> Umm....
#2376 [17:59] <NullEntity> Whitelist is off
#2377 [17:59] <barrycarlyon> Did you port forward?
#2378 [17:59] <NullEntity> yes
#2379 [17:59] <padilin> He is in a local network
#2380 [17:59] <barrycarlyon> Ah.
#2381 [18:00] <barrycarlyon> There anything in the server log?
#2382 [18:00] <NullEntity> lemme check
#2383 [18:00] <feenyx> any other security solutions running on the server machine?
#2384 [18:00] <barrycarlyon> And if verify names is on try turning that off.
#2385 [18:00] <feenyx> Windows Firewall?
#2386 [18:01] <NullEntity> Nothing, and I did disable firewalls
#2387 [18:02] <feenyx> NullEntity: whitelist=false in the properties file?
#2388 [18:02] <feenyx> ant server-ip= is blank?
#2389 [18:02] <feenyx> ant/and*
#2390 [18:03] <padilin> On mine sever-ip="0.0.0.0" and it works
#2391 [18:03] <padilin> it just auto changes it
#2392 [18:03] <feenyx> it should be left blank, ideally
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#2394 [18:04] <NullEntity> yeah to everything
#2395 [18:04] <NullEntity> whitelist is disabled and I'm added to it just in case
#2396 [18:04] <feenyx> good good
#2397 [18:04] <speels> Would any of you be so kind as to give http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=123770 a look over, and give me relevant feedback?
#2398 [18:06] <liquidengineer> Is there a conceptual reason why iron is so rare?
#2399 [18:06] <liquidengineer> It's one of the more common substances IRL
#2400 [18:07] <padilin> who knows
#2401 [18:07] <padilin> Update on nullentity: I can connect.... so its his comp i guess
#2402 [18:07] * liquidengineer thinks it's not really even worth it to craft iron armor. Yes, it's healthful, but it's too much effort for how often I get beat up.
#2402 [18:08] <NullEntity> But I can ping him and everything
#2403 [18:08] <padilin> >.> hmm...
#2404 [18:09] <feenyx> NullEntity: is he successfully connecting to the server himself?
#2405 [18:09] <padilin> Feenyx, i connected to the server
#2406 [18:10] <Speels> No idea, then, fellows?
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#2408 [18:10] <padilin> redownload minecraft?
#2409 [18:10] <liquidengineer> Has anyone noticed sand blocks absorbing water, permenantly?
#2410 [18:10] <barrycarlyon> Speels: delete it all and start again.
#2411 [18:11] <barrycarlyon> I've heard some people have "fun" with nvidia drivers.
#2412 [18:11] <liquidengineer> a friend and I have noticed the phenomenon, but it was 3AM so we weren't sure if we were right
#2413 [18:11] <barrycarlyon> Perhaps try the closed source nvidia ones over the open source ones.
#2414 [18:11] <Speels> barrycarlyon: I deleted data, the .jar, reinstalled the Java, as well as the dependencies.
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#2416 [18:12] <barrycarlyon> Hmm.
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#2423 [18:36] <aetherian> what does jar stand for, I'm guessing java application something?
#2424 [18:36] * aetherian waits for lmgtfy
#2424 [18:38] <padilin> Java ARchive
#2425 [18:38] <aetherian> oh
#2426 [18:41] <Diablothein> My face... feels naked... Requiescat in pace epic beard/moustache combo.
#2427 [18:42] <aetherian> well, thank god the rest of your body isn't
#2428 [18:42] <Diablothein> ... and clothes.
#2429 [18:42] <feenyx> Diablothein: I wouldn't think this a good time of the year to do that
#2430 [18:42] <Diablothein> feenyx, I know, but, eh.
#2431 [18:43] <feenyx> so when's the date?
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#2433 [18:45] <Diablothein> Whose?
#2434 [18:47] <feenyx> I'd assume yours, what with the seasonally unexpected shearing of facial hair
#2435 [18:48] <Diablothein> Whim.
#2436 [18:50] <aetherian> I found halfdome
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#2442 [19:15] <genshou> I have to obliterate the beard weekly
#2443 [19:16] <genshou> It's easier than always keeping it extremely short, since I work at a restaurant
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#2445 [19:16] <Lares> hi
#2446 [19:16] <Lares> some germans here?
#2447 [19:17] <genshou> Fishing pole recipe is... er...
#2448 [19:17] <feenyx> not to my knowledge
#2449 [19:17] <genshou> aha, I love how in Minecraft you can always remember crafting recipes by their shape <3
#2450 [19:17] <Lares> kk
#2451 [19:18] <Lares> could i play the survival together with my friend?
#2452 [19:20] <genshou> If you both do multiplayer on the same server, yes
#2453 [19:20] <genshou> (either someone else's server or running your own)
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#2456 [19:26] <Diablothein> wutlolski.
#2457 [19:26] <Diablothein> I got lit on fire via lava through a glass tube.
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#2459 [19:27] <Datl> jo im new does anybody have an server runing
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#2461 [19:28] <genshou> I think all multiplayer talk is directed to #smp
#2462 [19:28] <genshou> you can also check the official Minecraft forums for a section on smp servers
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#2468 [19:44] <mib_abq18v> hello??
#2469 [19:44] <aetherian> hello!!
#2470 [19:44] <mib_abq18v> im havin some trouble
#2471 [19:44] <mib_abq18v> tconnecting to smp servers
#2472 [19:44] <aetherian> in so many ways
#2473 [19:44] <mib_abq18v> can anyone help??
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#2475 [19:44] <aetherian> no
#2476 [19:44] <aetherian> tyvm
#2477 [19:45] <mib_abq18v> why not
#2478 [19:46] <aetherian> because that's what I tend to answer to that kind of question
#2479 [19:46] <aetherian> call it dry sarcasm
#2480 [19:46] <mib_abq18v> fine, but it keeps saying failed to connect to server, connection timed out, and its pissin me of
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#2482 [19:47] <aetherian> ......
#2483 [19:47] <aetherian> is the server... ah... up?
#2484 [19:47] <mib_abq18v> help??
#2485 [19:48] <feenyx> yeah, I was gonna say. Is the server even up?
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#2487 [19:48] <mr_pants> hello??
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#2489 [19:48] <mr_pants> pleaase i nned some help
#2490 [19:48] <Visiiri> no.
#2491 [19:49] <mbentley> ask your question and we might be able to :)
#2492 [19:49] <mr_pants> WTF WHY NOT
#2493 [19:49] <aetherian> no.
#2494 [19:49] <mbentley> </sarcasm>
#2495 [19:49] <lemon-rev> whats your problem pants
#2496 [19:49] <aetherian> that's funny bentley
#2497 [19:49] <aetherian> us?
#2498 [19:49] <aetherian> help?
#2499 [19:49] <aetherian> ha!
#2500 [19:49] <mr_pants> ok, well i keep getting a message when i try to connect to smp servers
#2501 [19:49] <Visiiri> Us too
#2502 [19:49] <Visiiri> Ours say "Logging in"
#2503 [19:49] <Visiiri> :)
#2504 [19:49] <mr_pants> tit says connection timed out, failed to connect to server
#2505 [19:49] <feenyx> it's a regular comedy night in here
#2506 [19:49] <mr_pants> anyhelp??
#2507 [19:49] <Visiiri> Dude, don't talk about tits in here
#2508 [19:49] <feenyx> mr_pants: are you sure the server is even up?
#2509 [19:50] <Visiiri> That's gross
#2510 [19:50] <Visiiri> There are children around
#2511 [19:50] <lemon-rev> well someone thats hosting is not correct with there setup
#2512 [19:50] <Visiiri> And I'm pretty sure tits dont' connect to servers
#2513 [19:50] <mib_abq18v> well i dont know, but it says it with every server i try
#2514 [19:50] <lemon-rev> your trying ones off minecraft.net
#2515 [19:50] <lemon-rev> ?
#2516 [19:51] <lemon-rev> or somewhere else
#2517 [19:52] <Visiiri> <mr_pants> WTF WHY NOT<mr_pants> WTF WHY NOT
#2518 [19:52] <Visiiri> <mr_pants> WTF WHY NOT
#2519 [19:52] <Visiiri> he mad
#2520 [19:52] <lemon-rev> only cause a couple of idots couldnt help or didnt want to help
#2521 [19:52] <Visiiri> I said no because I'm a good person
#2522 [19:52] <Visiiri> and he came in to #minecraft begging and with caps
#2523 [19:52] <lemon-rev> bah
#2524 [19:52] <Visiiri> :)
#2525 [19:53] <lemon-rev> well im not in the main channel
#2526 [19:53] <mbentley> but spamming caps will always get you far on the internet :D
#2527 [19:53] <lemon-rev> so like i care what he did before hand
#2528 [19:53] <Visiiri> I do
#2529 [19:53] <Diablothein> doods, idea.
#2530 [19:53] <Visiiri> I joined here just to tell him no.
#2531 [19:53] <Visiiri> :)
#2532 [19:53] <Diablothein> for a mob trap.
#2533 [19:53] <lemon-rev> hm
#2534 [19:53] <feenyx> obvioustroll is obvious.
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#2537 [19:53] <lemon-rev> well hes not saying a word now is he
#2538 [19:53] <lemon-rev> lol
#2539 [19:53] <Visiiri> hold on what
#2540 [19:53] <feenyx> If you don't have a query, or plan on answering others', feel free to show yourself the door.
#2541 [19:53] <Visiiri> mr_pants and mib_abq18v are different people
#2542 [19:54] <Visiiri> feenyx, two things
#2543 [19:54] <Visiiri> first, no.
#2544 [19:54] <Visiiri> I plan on answering many questions
#2545 [19:54] <Visiiri> Second, herp derp, ban me for saying no
#2546 [19:55] <Diablothein> It might be a slow working one, but it'll imitate the night time traps. dig a cave into a hillside, and make sure that the interior has enough area to be able to spawn monsters, set a trap at only entrance, have mobs bumrush you, get caught, die, drop loot, you collect loot, ????, PROFIT!
#2547 [19:55] <Visiiri> But really, I don't get it
#2548 [19:56] <Diablothein> Hmm, was it Xales that was complaining about his cart system not working due to glass?
#2549 [19:56] <Halsh> Great experience first time playing: down mining in a cave, get a creeper for a hat, followed by explosions..
#2550 [19:57] <feenyx> Halsh: baptism by fire. It's a great way to make you paranoid when exploring :)
#2551 [19:57] <Diablothein> Lol...
#2552 [19:57] <Diablothein> Mine was a stereotypical Minecraft player's.
#2553 [19:57] <mbentley> i hide in a box at night
#2554 [19:57] <Diablothein> I hugged a creeper...
#2555 [19:58] <aetherian> haha
#2556 [19:58] <mbentley> and cry myself to sleep
#2557 [19:58] <mbentley> for those 10 minutes
#2558 [19:58] <Diablothein> At night, I stand at the top of my lighthouse, and shoot things that move.
#2559 [19:58] <mbentley> also fun to stand on top of the man made volcano on our map and watch the bad guys fall into the lava
#2560 [19:59] <feenyx> that reminds me
#2561 [19:59] <feenyx> I believe I made a volcano
#2562 [19:59] <feenyx> but where the heck is it
#2563 [19:59] <Halsh> You can make a volcano?
#2564 [19:59] <feenyx> you can make something that looks like a volcano
#2565 [19:59] <Diablothein> Halsh, you form it, fill it with lava, bam. volcano.
#2566 [19:59] <Diablothein> feenyx, pics!
#2567 [19:59] <mbentley> http://www.mbentley.net/temp/minecraft/screen_shots/2010-12-17_volcano.png
#2568 [20:00] <Visiiri> My first time playing
#2569 [20:00] <Visiiri> Well, I spawned in a cool world
#2570 [20:00] <Visiiri> I dug a hole
#2571 [20:00] <feenyx> Diablothein: http://mancyclopedia.org/minecraft/
#2572 [20:00] <Visiiri> then I figured out that right click toggled to 'build'
#2573 [20:00] <feenyx> it says topographical survey
#2574 [20:00] <Visiiri> and I made a purple Visiiri sign
#2575 [20:00] <feenyx> actually finding it in-game may take some time :p
#2576 [20:00] <Halsh> So far I've made a small hole into a hill and found a large cave system filled with skeletons, zombies and creepers.. Died in there already, creeperhats aren't really what I like :p
#2577 [20:00] <Visiiri> Then Notch made Creative multiplayer
#2578 [20:00] <Visiiri> :O
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#2580 [20:01] <Visiiri> The sign wasn't actually purple, though
#2581 [20:01] <Visiiri> Cloth wasn't even made then :O
#2582 [20:02] <mib_abq18v> sorry guys im back
#2583 [20:02] <Diablothein> Nice...
#2584 [20:02] <Diablothein> "Sorry I'm back"
#2585 [20:02] <Halsh> Are there any uses for dirt? It's piling up and I'm wondering whether I should just toss it
#2586 [20:03] <mib_abq18v> did u guys by any chance figure out how to help me??
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#2588 [20:03] <mbentley> what servers are you trying to connect to mib_abq18v
#2589 [20:03] <Visiiri> Halsh, it's good for getting grass on things
#2590 [20:03] <feenyx> Halsh: no more than 5 stacks, for purposes of making supports for structures you're building
#2591 [20:03] <mbentley> good for making fields
#2592 [20:04] <feenyx> or what they said
#2593 [20:04] <mib_abq18v> infinium server
#2594 [20:04] <feenyx> depending on how you play I guess :)
#2595 [20:04] <mbentley> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Dirt
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#2597 [20:04] <ReaZaaa> Hey guys :)
#2598 [20:04] <Diablothein> This tree... it must grow... FASTER... :|
#2599 [20:04] <aetherian> hello, people of planet earth
#2600 [20:04] <ReaZaaa> :D hi^^
#2601 [20:04] <aetherian> rofl, diablo
#2602 [20:04] <feenyx> aetherian: that's a brash assumption
#2603 [20:04] <Halsh> Do saplings grow faster with water nearby?
#2604 [20:05] <feenyx> aetherian: how do you know we're all earthlings?
#2605 [20:05] <mib_abq18v> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD HELP
#2606 [20:05] <mbentley> why do you have to hating on the people of other planets like that?
#2607 [20:05] <genshou> Diablothein, you playing single player or smp?
#2608 [20:05] <aetherian> feenyx: no it isn't, you see, I was only saying hi to the people of this earth in this channel
#2609 [20:05] <Diablothein> aetherian, you have no idea... I've been waiting for this sapling to grow up for nearly 36 hours of gameplay.
#2610 [20:05] <feenyx> mib_abq18v: state your question please
#2611 [20:05] <Diablothein> singleplayer.
#2612 [20:05] <aetherian> not everyone in this channel was I saying hi to
#2613 [20:05] <mib_abq18v> i wanna connect to smp but i cannt..plz help
#2614 [20:05] <aetherian> diablo
#2615 [20:05] <feenyx> aetherian: a-hah, so interplanetary racism! :D
#2616 [20:05] <mbentley> not sure what infenium server is
#2617 [20:05] <feenyx> mib_abq18v: can you connect to any other servers?
#2618 [20:05] <aetherian> yep
#2619 [20:05] <mib_abq18v> :(
#2620 [20:05] <aetherian> you damned dirty alien
#2621 [20:05] <mib_abq18v> no i cant
#2622 [20:05] <aetherian> diablo
#2623 [20:05] <aetherian> as I was asking
#2624 [20:05] <mib_abq18v> only freebuild
#2625 [20:06] <aetherian> does it have 5+ spaces above it?
#2626 [20:06] <genshou> Diablothein, I think there's a mod out there that makes trees grow in about 60 seconds.
#2627 [20:06] <genshou> ;)
#2628 [20:06] <feenyx> mib_abq18v: you do have a registered and paid account?
#2629 [20:06] <Diablothein> Aetherian, yep.
#2630 [20:06] <mib_abq18v> yes i do
#2631 [20:06] <Diablothein> genshou, no thanks, This tree shall grow naturally.
#2632 [20:06] <genshou> xD
#2633 [20:06] <aetherian> does it have 6 spaces above it?
#2634 [20:06] <feenyx> mib_abq18v: and are you using the in-browser or downloaded beta client?
#2635 [20:06] <aetherian> is it more than three blocks away from anything on all four sides?
#2636 [20:07] <mib_abq18v> neither work online but for solo i can use both
#2637 [20:07] <feenyx> mib_abq18v: you can play singleplayer freebuild and singleplayer survival, but multiplayer doesn't work for either game mode?
#2638 [20:08] <Diablothein> aetherian, that would be pointless. the whole reason it's taking so long is because I'm enlarging the trunk of the main tree.
#2639 [20:08] <mib_abq18v> yah, i cant play smp at all
#2640 [20:08] <aetherian> oh
#2641 [20:08] <Diablothein> ask Kealper, he's seen what I'm planting.
#2642 [20:08] <aetherian> diablo
#2643 [20:08] <feenyx> !paid feenyx
#2644 [20:08] <aetherian> I don't think that works, but idk
#2645 [20:08] <aetherian> just put wood there
#2646 [20:08] <Diablothein> feenyx, he whitelisted it.
#2647 [20:08] <mib_abq18v> thats what she said
#2648 [20:09] <Diablothein> LI
#2649 [20:09] <mib_abq18v> whats whitelisting??
#2650 [20:09] <Diablothein> Dude, I need leaves in it too.
#2651 [20:09] <feenyx> nevermind whitelisting
#2652 [20:09] <aetherian> diablo:too bad
#2653 [20:09] <mib_abq18v> ok, but can anyone help??
#2654 [20:09] <feenyx> !paid mib_abq18v
#2655 [20:09] <aetherian> place it 3 blocks away
#2656 [20:09] <aetherian> wait for it to grow
#2657 [20:09] <aetherian> then
#2658 [20:09] <mib_abq18v> paid me what??
#2659 [20:09] <mbentley> lol that obviously isn't his minecraft nickname
#2660 [20:09] <mib_abq18v> i have 2!!
#2661 [20:09] <aetherian> place wood in between
#2662 [20:09] <mib_abq18v> mine is yoda123
#2663 [20:09] <mib_abq18v> thast wwhat she said
#2664 [20:10] <aetherian> ................................................................
#2665 [20:10] <mbentley> <.<
#2666 [20:10] <mbentley> >.>
#2667 [20:10] <aetherian> ...
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#2669 [20:10] <Zixon> I need help
#2670 [20:10] <mib_abq18v> me2
#2671 [20:10] <mbentley> mib_abq18v: do you have any firewalls that block outgoing connections?
#2672 [20:10] <ReaZaaa> me²^^
#2673 [20:10] <aetherian> in so many ways
#2674 [20:10] <aetherian> mental help mainly
#2675 [20:11] <Zixon> I am stuck on the minecraft updating screen
#2676 [20:11] <mib_abq18v> uhh idk, im not that techie
#2677 [20:11] <Diablothein> Just did one thing that I didn't want to do to it... cleaned out a mass of branches...
#2678 [20:12] <Zixon> its almost done but it freezes
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#2680 [20:13] <Zixon> lg
#2681 [20:13] <ReaZaaa> I try to run my server (Debian Lenny) NOT as root .. but it wont work .. do I have to chmod some things? all files are on 755 atm .. as Root it runs perfectly
#2682 [20:13] <mib_abq18v> hello??
#2683 [20:13] <mbentley> ReaZaaa: you probably need to chown everything to the user you are running it as
#2684 [20:14] <Zixon> guys
#2685 [20:14] <Zixon> im stuck on the updating screen
#2686 [20:14] <ReaZaaa> thanks .. I'll try it :)
#2687 [20:14] <Zixon> it says done loading
#2688 [20:14] <mbentley> just do a chown -R
#2689 [20:14] <Zixon> hmm?
#2690 [20:14] <Zixon> whats that?
#2691 [20:14] <mbentley> not you
#2692 [20:15] <Zixon> can you help me anyway?
#2693 [20:15] <mbentley> what screen are you stuck on exactly?
#2694 [20:15] <Zixon> the minecraft updating screen
#2695 [20:15] <Zixon> it says done loading
#2696 [20:16] <mib_abq18v> ARRGH now it says connection refused, any help??
#2697 [20:16] <mbentley> hmm, not sure
#2698 [20:16] <Zixon> but its like a finger away from done
#2699 [20:16] <mbentley> mib_abq18v: did you see my pm?
#2700 [20:17] <mib_abq18v> uhh no??
#2701 [20:17] <Zixon> actully its done but stuck on a black screen
#2702 [20:17] <mbentley> Zixon: might try to go to %appdata% and delete the 'bin' directory and restart minecraft
#2703 [20:17] <Zixon> where do I get there
#2704 [20:17] <mib_abq18v> actually i just did, i think its workin
#2705 [20:17] <mbentley> winxp - start > run
#2706 [20:18] <mib_abq18v> HOLY SHIT IT DID
#2707 [20:18] <mbentley> vista/7 - start type it in
#2708 [20:18] <mbentley> yeah, connected just fine
#2709 [20:18] <mbentley> are you sure you aren't connecting to classic servers?
#2710 [20:18] <mbentley> where are you getting your servers from?
#2711 [20:18] <mib_abq18v> um minecraft forums alpha smp servers
#2712 [20:19] <mbentley> hmm those servers must be down then
#2713 [20:19] <ReaZaaa> «mbentley» big thanks ... now it runs :D
#2714 [20:19] <mbentley> np
#2715 [20:20] <mib_abq18v> THANK UUUUUUUUUUUUU
#2716 [20:20] <Zixon> Ty!
#2717 [20:20] <Zixon> works
#2718 [20:20] <mib_abq18v> THANK U MBENTLEY
#2719 [20:21] <mbentley> np
#2720 [20:21] <mib_abq18v> lol get on ur server
#2721 [20:21] <mbentley> i'm on my laptop...
#2722 [20:22] <mbentley> doesn't exactly play minecraft well
#2723 [20:22] <mib_abq18v> oh ok, well im gonna go, thanks a bunch
#2724 [20:25] <Speels> Would any of you be so kind as to give http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=123770 a look over, and give me relevant feedback?
#2725 [20:30] <mbentley> Speels: check the perms & ownership on the .minecraft directory?
#2726 [20:31] <Speels> mbentley: What'd be the chmod for making it fully accessible, or do you not know that off the top of your head?
#2727 [20:32] <mbentley> i would do a 'chmod -R 775 ~/.minecraft' and a 'chown -R Speels:Speels ~/.minecraft
#2728 [20:32] <mbentley> assuming your username is Speels on your system
#2729 [20:34] <Speels> Nope. Nothing changed. It also may be applicable that I sometimes type in the text boxes.
#2730 [20:34] <mbentley> what does 'java -version' say?
#2731 [20:34] <mbentley> i know you said you have updated to the latest but it could be your system isn't using that one
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#2733 [20:36] <Ispert> Can anybody help me?
#2734 [20:36] <mbentley> just ask
#2735 [20:36] <Ispert> i have a problem forwarding ports to make a server
#2736 [20:36] <aetherian> aww
#2737 [20:36] <Visiiri> Ispert, have you tried http://www.portforward.com/ ??
#2738 [20:36] <aetherian> xales isn't here
#2739 [20:36] <aetherian> he loves answering those questions
#2740 [20:36] <Speels> [Speels@Valexenium ~]$ java -version
#2741 [20:36] <Speels> java version "1.5.0"
#2742 [20:36] <Speels> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.5.1 20100924 (Red Hat 4.5.1-4)
#2743 [20:36] <Speels> Aha
#2744 [20:37] <mbentley> 1.5? ICK
#2745 [20:37] <mbentley> :D
#2746 [20:37] <Speels> That's the problem.
#2747 [20:37] <Speels> Okay. I know I have other Java packages installed. The ones from Oracle.
#2748 [20:37] <Speels> Isn't there a command that has to do with... alternatives?
#2749 [20:37] <aetherian> the one at delphi, speels?
#2750 [20:37] <mbentley> i know on debian there is update-alternatives
#2751 [20:37] <Speels> Right!
#2752 [20:37] <Speels> That's it, mbentley.
#2753 [20:37] <Speels> Brb, eating.
#2754 [20:38] <Speels> PM me what you need to.
#2755 [20:38] <aetherian> pling plong time
#2756 [20:38] <aetherian> ahh
#2757 [20:38] <aetherian> he'll probably be ticked when he gets back
#2758 [20:38] <aetherian> anyways
#2759 [20:38] <mbentley> update-alternatives --config java
#2760 [20:38] <Ispert> but that portforward program costs 30 bucks -.-
#2761 [20:39] <mbentley> should be able to look at their instructions though
#2762 [20:40] <Speels> It says there's only one program that provides java... bah.
#2763 [20:40] <aetherian> minecraft worlds spam up my tree in cmd
#2764 [20:40] <aetherian> lawl
#2765 [20:40] <feenyx> Ispert: all the instructions are free
#2766 [20:40] <Speels> Must've uninstalled it when erasing something in yum.
#2767 [20:40] <Speels> Damn dependencies.
#2768 [20:40] <aetherian> yummt
#2769 [20:40] <Ispert> i have everything figured out but i dont know what to put into the : translate to box and the trigger port box
#2770 [20:40] <aetherian> yummy
#2771 [20:41] <mbentley> could always update the symlink manually
#2772 [20:43] <feenyx> Ispert: not sure what the translate box in your router does, but trigger port is 25565
#2773 [20:44] <Ispert> but 25565 goes to port range or not?
#2774 [20:44] <feenyx> you don't need a port range, just 25565 will do
#2775 [20:45] <feenyx> or screenshot it, and put it on imgur so we can divine a solution
#2776 [20:46] <Ispert> will do right away
#2777 [20:47] <Halsh> What's the easiest way to dispose of loads of dirt/gravel that I don't want?
#2778 [20:47] <feenyx> lava pit
#2779 [20:47] <Halsh> Assuming I don't have access to a lava pit?
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#2781 [20:47] <feenyx> ocean :)
#2782 [20:48] <genshou> Halsh, find a cactus :)
#2783 [20:48] <Deltaway> Hey. Um. I paid for Minecraft 5 months ago and I sent four emails. Still no premium account. Any help?
#2784 [20:48] <genshou> Or just throw it in the ocean and I believe it'll vanish after several minutes
#2785 [20:48] <aetherian> that'd be cool to be able to replace all dirt with cobble, and all water with lava
#2786 [20:48] <aetherian> in the world generator
#2787 [20:48] <genshou> can be done
#2788 [20:48] <mbentley> sorry Deltaway, not really much we can do about that
#2789 [20:48] <Deltaway> Roger that.
#2790 [20:48] <Deltaway> Any advice?
#2791 [20:48] <aetherian> it'd probs look cool
#2792 [20:48] <genshou> ask the guys over in Risu if you wanna make it, aeth :)
#2793 [20:49] <Deltaway> Anybody have this problem before?
#2794 [20:49] <Ispert> so heres the screenie: http://imgur.com/0wy1R
#2795 [20:49] <feenyx> Deltaway: Try the other emails. None of us work for Mojang, so can't really help you with that
#2796 [20:49] <Deltaway> Yeah, I tried support@, sales@ and payment@
#2797 [20:49] <Deltaway> No dice.
#2798 [20:49] <Deltaway> It seems to be a fairly common problem.
#2799 [20:49] <feenyx> fly to Sweden and place a direct question I guess.
#2800 [20:50] <Deltaway> Haha, yeah. Seems to be the only option at this point, unfortunately.
#2801 [20:50] <feenyx> They're still sort of getting the whole thing started, but five months seems oddly long
#2802 [20:50] <Deltaway> Pity.
#2803 [20:50] <Deltaway> Yeah, that's what I thought.
#2804 [20:50] <Deltaway> Paid for it July 28.
#2805 [20:50] <Deltaway> It's been a while.
#2806 [20:50] <Deltaway> Still get the "User not Premium" error.
#2807 [20:50] <Deltaway> Sent them the tranaction ID and username.
#2808 [20:50] <Deltaway> I dunno.
#2809 [20:50] <Deltaway> I don't get any responses to my emails.
#2810 [20:51] <Deltaway> Except for the "mail payments instead of support" one.
#2811 [20:51] <mbentley> hmm, i'd keep sending emails
#2812 [20:51] <Deltaway> Yeah.
#2813 [20:51] <Deltaway> I sent one a few days ago with a nice capitalized title: FINAL ATTEMPT, etc.
#2814 [20:52] <Deltaway> After that I guess I kill the Paypal payment and support some other company.
#2815 [20:52] <feenyx> PayPal is already losing Mojang as a customer
#2816 [20:52] <Deltaway> Do you think they just have too many emails, or I'm somehow not reaching them?
#2817 [20:52] <Deltaway> Ah, really? Why is that?
#2818 [20:52] <feenyx> I'm guessing some new payment options will be available by the end of the month
#2819 [20:52] <Ispert> here is the screenshot, so can anybody help :D? http://imgur.com/0wy1R
#2820 [20:53] <feenyx> Deltaway: some issues where they withheld a couple hundred thousand dollars from Notch :p
#2821 [20:53] <Deltaway> Ah....
#2822 [20:53] <feenyx> go read his blog for details
#2823 [20:53] <feenyx> anyway
#2824 [20:53] <Deltaway> Thanks.
#2825 [20:54] <feenyx> yes, I do believe they get an inordinate amount of emails regarding various payment issues
#2826 [20:54] <Speels> http://pastebin.com/faLWDyWB
#2827 [20:54] <Speels> lolque?
#2828 [20:54] <Deltaway> Hrmm...
#2829 [20:54] <mbentley> well that certainly isn't good Speels
#2830 [20:55] <Deltaway> Gotcha.
#2831 [20:55] <Deltaway> Ah, well, thanks anyway, feenyx.
#2832 [20:55] <Ispert> ?
#2833 [20:56] <Deltaway> Bye all!
#2834 [20:56] <mbentley> sounds like you just need to recreate the symlink
#2835 [20:56] <feenyx> Ispert: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Thomson-Alcatel/Speedtouch780v6/Minecraft_Server.htm
#2836 [20:57] <Speels> wat do
#2837 [20:58] <mbentley> well first you need to find where java is installed...
#2838 [20:58] <mbentley> find /usr -name java
#2839 [20:58] <mbentley> it is likely to be in /usr
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#2841 [20:59] <Speels> http://pastebin.com/ME2ZTqkA
#2842 [20:59] <Speels> I'll be back, well, later. Laptop is going dead.
#2843 [21:00] <Speels> I'll still be online though thanks to screen and my server. Feel free to PM me.
#2844 [21:00] <mbentley> ln -s /usr/java/jdk1.6.0_23/jre/bin/java /usr/bin/java
#2845 [21:00] <mbentley> (as root)
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#2847 [21:01] <Speels> Yay!
#2848 [21:01] <Speels> Minecraft works.
#2849 [21:01] <Speels> :)
#2850 [21:01] <mbentley> tada
#2851 [21:01] <Speels> <3 mbentley
#2852 [21:01] <mbentley> lol
#2853 [21:01] <mbentley> glad i could help :)
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#2857 [21:11] <aetherian> halp
#2858 [21:11] <aetherian> halp
#2859 [21:11] <aetherian> sos
#2860 [21:11] <aetherian> I'm trying to connect to this dudes server
#2861 [21:11] * kingfishr_ [kingfishr_@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2862 [21:11] <aetherian> and I've tried three times so far
#2863 [21:12] <aetherian> I'll post the three different reasons for connection lost
#2864 [21:12] <aetherian> java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 5
#2865 [21:12] <aetherian> Internal exception: java.IOException: Bad packet id 182
#2866 [21:12] <aetherian> then
#2867 [21:12] <aetherian> Internal exception: java.io.IOException: Bad compressed data format
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#2869 [21:12] <padilin> broken server?
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#2871 [21:12] <aetherian> probs
#2872 [21:12] <aetherian> dunno
#2873 [21:12] <padilin> whats the ip
#2874 [21:13] <aetherian> pm'd
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#2876 [21:13] <aetherian> it works now, somehow
#2877 [21:13] <kingfishr_> Question: I'm playing minecraft with a friend, and I'm running a server on my (beefy) computer and my client there as well. My friend is playing on another machine on local network. After a little while, my friend starts experiencing unplayably bad lag, but it goes away for a bit when she disconnects/reconnects. Ideas?
#2878 [21:14] <padilin> aetherian, i can get in then it dies with those errors
#2879 [21:14] <aetherian> me too
#2880 [21:14] <aetherian> but now it works
#2881 [21:14] <padilin> Kingfishr, server program slow?
#2882 [21:15] <kingfishr_> padilin, what do you mean? I'm not experiencing any lag myself, so I don't think the server is getting overwhelmed, if that's what you're getting at.
#2883 [21:16] <padilin> ... have her redownload minecraft?
#2884 [21:16] <kingfishr_> err, how could that help?
#2885 [21:17] <padilin> how can it hurt....?
#2886 [21:17] <padilin> meh
#2887 [21:17] <padilin> idk
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#2891 [21:26] <cometen> I have a problem with java, i get this error Java(TM)Platform SEbinary. Can someone tell me what to do
#2892 [21:27] <Kealper[OFF]> what does the error say exactly?
#2893 [21:27] <Diablothein> Kealper bby! <3
#2894 [21:27] <cometen> Java(TM)Platform SE binary.
#2895 [21:28] <cometen> dont answer
#2896 [21:28] <Kealper> "Not responding"?
#2897 [21:29] <cometen> yes
#2898 [21:29] <Kealper> have you tried installing the latest java from http://java.com?
#2899 [21:29] <cometen> yes
#2900 [21:30] <Kealper> has it worked in the past, or has it always done this?
#2901 [21:30] <cometen> no
#2902 [21:30] <Kealper> it's always crashed like this?
#2903 [21:30] <cometen> I get it very offen
#2904 [21:30] <Kealper> hmm....
#2905 [21:30] * GreyVulpine pokes kealper
#2905 [21:30] * Kealper pokes back
#2905 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Looks like bukkit's replacing hmod.
#2906 [21:31] * feenyx watches in anticipation
#2906 [21:31] <Kealper> crap...you two made me forget what i was going to say
#2907 [21:31] * GreyVulpine snickers
#2907 [21:31] <Kealper> and what's bukkit?
#2908 [21:31] <feenyx> But... Carrots have mystery!
#2909 [21:31] <cometen> I dont have any mods
#2910 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> successor to hmod
#2911 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Looks like.
#2912 [21:31] <Kealper> o.o
#2913 [21:32] <feenyx> GreyVulpine: will I have to redo whitelists and user groups and such?
#2914 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea, haven't downloaded it yet. Just been reading up on the new forums
#2915 [21:32] <Kealper> cometen: does it crash all the time at a certain point, or is it just random?
#2916 [21:32] <feenyx> I'll have a look later then
#2917 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> bukkit.org
#2918 [21:32] <cometen> its random
#2919 [21:33] <Kealper> even stranger.....
#2920 [21:33] <Kealper> and your graphics/sound drivers are up to date?
#2921 [21:33] <cometen> yea
#2922 [21:33] <Xerati> he's lying
#2923 [21:33] <Xerati> i can tell
#2924 [21:34] <Xerati> i'm kidding!
#2925 [21:34] <Xerati> actually
#2926 [21:34] <Xerati> cometen, what OS you on?
#2927 [21:34] <Kealper> cometen: do you know the specs of your computer? (cpu type/speed, ram type/ammount)
#2928 [21:34] <cometen> windows 7
#2929 [21:34] <Xerati> 64bit or no?
#2930 [21:35] <aetherian> he's on 8 bit.
#2931 [21:35] <aetherian> :)
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#2933 [21:35] <cometen> Intel i7 2.7 Ghz 16 gb ram
#2934 [21:36] <CircuitRider> Hey, rolling my own server here. Logging in from the same maching hosting it I get "Kicking /IP: You need to log in!"
#2935 [21:36] <Kealper> something is screwy with your windows install then
#2936 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> CircuitRider - You're running the wrong server.
#2937 [21:36] <cometen> yea its 64 bit
#2938 [21:36] <CircuitRider> I am not.
#2939 [21:36] <Xerati> cometen, i bet i have a fix for you
#2940 [21:36] <Xerati> give me a bit
#2941 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Yes, you are. Are you running start-server.bat?
#2942 [21:36] <CircuitRider> I have the current server from the official site.
#2943 [21:36] <Kealper> CircuitRider: you have the wrong type
#2944 [21:36] <CircuitRider> Yes, tried both under my account and from admin
#2945 [21:36] <Kealper> !server
#2946 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Yup. start-server.bat is the classic server
#2947 [21:37] * GreyVulpine points to kealper's link
#2947 [21:37] * CircuitRider facepalms
#2947 [21:37] <Kealper> get that correct one from those links, and delete the entire last server's folder
#2948 [21:39] <Xerati> rabble
#2949 [21:39] <Xerati> i can't get it to find the right link
#2950 [21:39] <Kealper> O.o
#2951 [21:39] <Xerati> cometen, more than likely you have the 32bit version of java, which semi-works
#2952 [21:39] <Xerati> i bet it'll work fine in your browser
#2953 [21:39] <Xerati> which is also 32bit
#2954 [21:39] <Xerati> if you want to run the application version without it crashing, you need the 64bit application
#2955 [21:39] <Xerati> err,
#2956 [21:40] <Xerati> 64bit java*
#2957 [21:40] <Xerati> which naturally, thanks to sun's site, is impossible to find
#2958 [21:40] <Xerati> it even links to the page that has it, but the page doesn't have it >:(
#2959 [21:40] <cometen> okay i go and get it
#2960 [21:40] * Kealper has 32 bit java and it works fine :/
#2960 [21:41] <Xerati> there's a link on the minecraft forum in one of the 64bit black screen threads
#2961 [21:41] <Xerati> Kealper, same :P
#2962 [21:41] <Xerati> but it does fix the issue that people are having
#2963 [21:41] <Xerati> you/me aren't having it
#2964 [21:41] <Xerati> my buddy was though
#2965 [21:41] <feenyx> I'm putting off installing 64bit windows until I get me an i7 rig
#2966 [21:41] <Kealper> weird
#2967 [21:41] <Kealper> feenyx: you need it to have anything more than 4 gigs of ram :/
#2968 [21:41] <Xerati> ahh
#2969 [21:42] <feenyx> I know. I have that amount in my current rig, but I figure when I go for an i7, I'll get atleast 8gb
#2970 [21:42] <Kealper> lol
#2971 [21:44] <CircuitRider> Thanks :x
#2972 [21:44] <Xerati> cometen
#2973 [21:44] <Xerati> start>all programs>Internet Explorer 64bit
#2974 [21:44] <Xerati> download java through that, after uninstalling all versions of java
#2975 [21:44] <Xerati> that should do the trick
#2976 [21:44] <Xerati> sun's site doesn't show the 64bit download without a 64bit browser
#2977 [21:45] <cometen> i have java version 6 update 20 (build 1.6.0_20-b02) it sayes nothing about 32 or 64 bit
#2978 [21:45] <Kealper> "If you're not a fan of Java (we don't blame you), Bukkit's design allows for plugins to be written natively in any language with ease."
#2979 [21:45] <Kealper> i smell my making my own plugins....lol
#2980 [21:45] <Xerati> http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=43883
#2981 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> We'll see.
#2982 [21:45] <Xerati> HA
#2983 [21:45] <feenyx> cometen: update 23 is the most recent by the way
#2984 [21:45] <Xerati> got it
#2985 [21:46] <Xerati> cometen, uninstall java, install that ^
#2986 [21:46] <cometen> okay
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#2988 [21:46] <Xerati> and please let us(me) know if you have any further crashes
#2989 [21:46] <Tiktalik> I want to run a server.
#2990 [21:46] <Tiktalik> But I can not.
#2991 [21:46] <Xerati> why?
#2992 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you?
#2993 [21:46] <Tiktalik> It is for the best.
#2994 [21:46] <Xerati> ok
#2995 [21:47] <Kealper> o.o
#2996 [21:47] <Tiktalik> I don't really have time.
#2997 [21:47] <Tiktalik> But, I had an idea.
#2998 [21:47] <Xerati> you don't have to always be on it to 'run' one
#2999 [21:47] <Tiktalik> Give all players an admin stick, Free kits of everything, poof instant creative alpha.
#3000 [21:47] <cometen> ok ty for you help
#3001 [21:48] <Xerati> cometen, it work?
#3002 [21:48] <Xerati> hey Kealper, you mod?
#3003 [21:49] <Kealper> lolwut
#3004 [21:49] <Xerati> <_<
#3005 [21:49] <Xerati> nvm
#3006 [21:49] <Kealper> i run hMod on my server.....but i don't make mods for it
#3007 [21:49] <cometen> havnt installed it yet
#3008 [21:49] <Xerati> do you code/mod at all is what i was asking
#3009 [21:49] <Kealper> yes, but not mods
#3010 [21:49] <Kealper> lol
#3011 [21:49] <clone1018> Kealper!
#3012 [21:49] <Kealper> o.o
#3013 [21:49] <Xerati> java, at least?
#3014 [21:49] <clone1018> http://imgba.co/ :D
#3015 [21:50] <Kealper> no, i don't know any Java
#3016 [21:50] <clone1018> I do
#3017 [21:50] <Xerati> know how to mod mc?
#3018 [21:50] <Xerati> i understand the obfuscation part
#3019 [21:50] <Xerati> just wondering if someone had time to do a quick run through doing a simple mod, start to finish... tutorials... don't go so well for me
#3020 [21:50] <Xerati> :X
#3021 [21:51] <Xerati> shouldn't take more than 20 mins, if anyone is interested? :D
#3022 [21:51] <clone1018> I dont mod
#3023 [21:51] <aetherian> man
#3024 [21:51] <aetherian> I'd hate to have a palaciously and plaguingly painful injury
#3025 [21:51] <aetherian> :3
#3026 [21:52] <Xerati> menstruation
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#3028 [21:53] <aetherian> what is
#3029 [21:53] <aetherian> uh
#3030 [21:53] <aetherian> this error
#3031 [21:53] <aetherian> meaning
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#3033 [21:54] <Xerati> yhes?!
#3034 [21:54] <aetherian> internal exception: java.io.IOException: bad pacet id 201
#3035 [21:54] <aetherian> *packet
#3036 [21:54] <Xerati> bad packet?
#3037 [21:54] <aetherian> aND OTHER ID'S
#3038 [21:54] <aetherian> ack
#3039 [21:54] <Xerati> that's what it means
#3040 [21:54] <Xerati> probably post ack though
#3041 [21:54] <aetherian> how do I fix it
#3042 [21:55] <Xerati> constantly happening? when?
#3043 [21:55] <aetherian> I can't get onto a guys server for more than a few seconds
#3044 [21:55] <Xerati> only that server?
#3045 [21:55] <Kealper> it's probably something with that server then
#3046 [21:55] <aetherian> other people can connect just fine
#3047 [21:55] <Xerati> what about other servers?
#3048 [21:55] <aetherian> this time I get bad packet as 141
#3049 [21:55] <aetherian> well
#3050 [21:55] <Kealper> ip?
#3051 [21:55] <aetherian> do you know any other servers I could try on
#3052 [21:55] <Xerati> uhh, sure
#3053 [21:55] <Xerati> sec
#3054 [21:56] <Xerati> 98.203.255.46
#3055 [21:56] <Xerati> wtf
#3056 [21:56] <Xerati> a cake?
#3057 [21:56] <aetherian> cake?
#3058 [21:56] <Xerati> oh
#3059 [21:56] <Xerati> nvm
#3060 [21:56] <aetherian> I am so joining
#3061 [21:56] <aetherian> the cake better not be a lie
#3062 [21:56] <cometen> I tryed to install a mods, it sayed to delete the meta folder, but then minecraft wont run
#3063 [21:56] <Xerati> lol
#3064 [21:56] <Xerati> it was my whois info
#3065 [21:56] <Xerati> it should redownload the metainf
#3066 [21:56] <Xerati> stuff
#3067 [21:56] <Xerati> aetherian, i see you
#3068 [21:57] <Xerati> let me know if you dc
#3069 [21:57] <aetherian> I'm good on here
#3070 [21:57] <Xerati> ok
#3071 [21:57] <Kealper> aetherian: that server is gay anyways, it's using a whitelist from MCAdmin
#3072 [21:57] <Xerati> the issue is somewhere between you and your friends' server, something with the connection
#3073 [21:57] <Xerati> what server?
#3074 [21:57] <aetherian> really, kelly?
#3075 [21:57] <Kealper> kelly......
#3076 [21:57] <Xerati> rofl
#3077 [21:57] <aetherian> hehehe'
#3078 [21:57] <aetherian> <3 kelly
#3079 [21:58] <aetherian> hey xerati
#3080 [21:58] <aetherian> is this server up a lot
#3081 [21:58] <Xerati> hi honey
#3082 [21:58] <Xerati> yes
#3083 [21:58] <Xerati> 24/7
#3084 [21:58] <Xerati> except when i reboot
#3085 [21:58] <Xerati> lol
#3086 [21:58] <aetherian> cool
#3087 [21:58] <aetherian> I'm just gonna nudge in there then
#3088 [21:58] <aetherian> don't mind me
#3089 [21:58] <Xerati> aiight
#3090 [21:58] <Xerati> i have like 5-6 people that play on it
#3091 [21:58] <Xerati> 2-3 regularly
#3092 [21:58] <aetherian> monsters on?
#3093 [21:58] <Xerati> ofc
#3094 [21:58] <aetherian> pvp on?
#3095 [21:58] <Xerati> no
#3096 [21:58] <aetherian> cool
#3097 [21:58] <aetherian> oh
#3098 [21:58] <aetherian> man
#3099 [21:58] <Xerati> that got annoying
#3100 [21:59] <aetherian> I can bet
#3101 [21:59] <Xerati> on that note, i may turn off monsters if i want to do some heavy building or something
#3102 [21:59] <Xerati> temp ofc
#3103 [21:59] <aetherian> mmk
#3104 [21:59] <aetherian> but
#3105 [21:59] <aetherian> don't you love creepers
#3106 [21:59] <Xerati> no
#3107 [21:59] <Xerati> :P
#3108 [21:59] <aetherian> okay
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#3110 [22:00] <aetherian> I've found the best way to get back at a guy w/o being banned
#3111 [22:00] <aetherian> is luring creepers
#3112 [22:00] <aetherian> uh
#3113 [22:00] <Xerati> rofl
#3114 [22:00] <aetherian> where are the houses?
#3115 [22:00] <Xerati> my base is safe from that
#3116 [22:00] <Xerati> the map is only like 1-2 weeks old
#3117 [22:00] <Tiktalik> Lol.
#3118 [22:00] <Xerati> if that
#3119 [22:00] <aetherian> found one
#3120 [22:00] <Xerati> which
#3121 [22:00] <Xerati> i have a hidden one right next to spawn ;P
#3122 [22:00] <Tiktalik> The server I play on makes creepers not do structure damage above ground.
#3123 [22:01] <aetherian> hey kelly
#3124 [22:01] <aetherian> what texture pack do you use
#3125 [22:01] <aetherian> and it's okay if I abuse this premade mob trap, right
#3126 [22:03] * Ellie pokes Xerati
#3126 [22:03] <aetherian> oi
#3127 [22:03] * aetherian shoves ellie
#3127 [22:03] <aetherian> no poking
#3128 [22:03] <aetherian> that's my job
#3129 [22:03] <Ellie> lol
#3130 [22:04] <aetherian> YOU DARE LAUGH AT ME >:O
#3131 [22:04] <Xerati> orly
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#3133 [22:05] <Xerati> hehe
#3134 [22:05] <Xerati> Ellie is a long time friend
#3135 [22:05] <Xerati> no idea he was here
#3136 [22:05] <Xerati> or even knew of Mc
#3137 [22:05] <aetherian> haha
#3138 [22:05] <aetherian> wow
#3139 [22:05] <aetherian> oh, the things you will learn
#3140 [22:05] <Xerati> kekkle
#3141 [22:06] <aetherian> crap
#3142 [22:06] <aetherian> my mousepad stuck
#3143 [22:07] <aetherian> I'll fix it
#3144 [22:07] <Xerati> aetherian
#3145 [22:07] <Xerati> imma hop in in a sec
#3146 [22:07] <Xerati> Ellie
#3147 [22:07] <aetherian> uh oh
#3148 [22:07] <Xerati> the ip i posted above is mine
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#3150 [22:07] <mib_lx6w87> yo i need help with buying minecraft
#3151 [22:07] <Xerati> alright, give me your CC info
#3152 [22:07] <aetherian> I died
#3153 [22:07] <mib_lx6w87> kk im new at this whats cc info?
#3154 [22:08] <Xerati> credit card information
#3155 [22:08] <Tiktalik> Credit card.
#3156 [22:08] <Tiktalik> Don't give him it.
#3157 [22:08] <Xerati> ^^
#3158 [22:08] <Xerati> lol
#3159 [22:08] <mib_lx6w87> ..
#3160 [22:08] <Tiktalik> X |
#3161 [22:08] <Xerati> what issues are you having?
#3162 [22:08] <Xerati> lol
#3163 [22:08] <mib_lx6w87> no my paypal is stupid it lets me send money but when i client buy now and enter my credit card it says something like i cant buy it
#3164 [22:09] <barrycarlyon> hmm my server appears to be stuck at about (waht equates to 5
#3165 [22:09] <barrycarlyon> 5:48 am
#3166 [22:09] <barrycarlyon> time is stopped.....
#3167 [22:09] <aetherian> creeper =\
#3168 [22:09] <barrycarlyon> it aint ticking
#3169 [22:09] <mib_lx6w87> so i was wondering if i could send the 19.85 usd 14.95 euros and get prem?
#3170 [22:09] <Xerati> pwnt
#3171 [22:09] <barrycarlyon> oddness
#3172 [22:10] <mib_lx6w87> guess not onto a different irc with someone who might help more//
#3173 [22:10] <Xerati> heh
#3174 [22:10] <Xerati> good luck
#3175 [22:10] <mib_lx6w87> no one fucking helps.. so yea..
#3176 [22:10] <Kealper> what a fag...
#3177 [22:11] <clone1018> Kealper, what did you think?
#3178 [22:11] <aetherian> ima go soon
#3179 [22:11] <aetherian> oh
#3180 [22:12] <aetherian> and a creeper just sparta'd me
#3181 [22:12] <Kealper> think of what?
#3182 [22:13] <clone1018> http://imagebacon.com
#3183 [22:13] <Kealper> isn't that the site that puts a bacon on websites?
#3184 [22:14] <cometen> Xerati it works now it seems. :)
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#3186 [22:14] <clone1018> lolno
#3187 [22:14] * wolfx_ [wolfx_@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3188 [22:14] <clone1018> Its an ad free image uploading service
#3189 [22:14] <Kealper> oh lol
#3190 [22:14] * Kealper tries it out
#3190 [22:19] <Kealper> that's decent
#3191 [22:19] <Kealper> it uses a short url
#3192 [22:19] <Kealper> http://imgba.co/n/2010122919.png :O
#3193 [22:19] <clone1018> :D
#3194 [22:19] <clone1018> :O!
#3195 [22:19] <Kealper> did you make it? or did someone else? lol
#3196 [22:20] <clone1018> I made it
#3197 [22:20] <Kealper> nice lol
#3198 [22:20] <clone1018> I plan on rewriting it though
#3199 [22:20] <clone1018> Its awful messy
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#3204 [22:32] <Beolex> Hello, how do I spawn a giant zombie?
#3205 [22:32] <Beolex> i tried googel
#3206 [22:32] <barrycarlyon> You don't
#3207 [22:33] <Beolex> Someone on my server
#3208 [22:33] <Beolex> spawned ghasts
#3209 [22:33] <Beolex> giant zombies
#3210 [22:33] <Beolex> etc
#3211 [22:33] <feenyx> they're not in the official game
#3212 [22:33] <feenyx> so this is not the place to ask
#3213 [22:33] <Beolex> ok
#3214 [22:36] <cometen> Any1 knows how to change the spawn point.
#3215 [22:36] <Champ> /setspawn
#3216 [22:36] <barrycarlyon> you need am map editor.
#3217 [22:36] <Kealper> you can't without a mod or a map editor
#3218 [22:36] <barrycarlyon> Set spawn is not in vanilla minecraft.
#3219 [22:36] <Champ> have to be admin (if its a server)
#3220 [22:37] <Kealper> Champ: that only works with hMod
#3221 [22:37] <cometen> its my server
#3222 [22:37] <Champ> really? oh
#3223 [22:37] <Champ> thought that was regular server setting also kk
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#3225 [22:38] <dragontech90> hey
#3226 [22:39] <Kealper> hi
#3227 [22:42] <cometen> and if I get a map editor how can I se the coordinates
#3228 [22:43] <dragontech90> gess what
#3229 [22:43] <dragontech90> mom forgot pass to router >.>
#3230 [22:43] <Kealper> modifying stuff with map editors and such is out of the scope of this channel
#3231 [22:43] <Kealper> O.o
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#3233 [22:43] <barrycarlyon> dragontech90: hard reset then but I bet it stil ahs default pass.
#3234 [22:44] <oEnragedSFHo> hello?
#3235 [22:44] * Kealper stays silent
#3235 [22:44] <oEnragedSFHo> helllo?????
#3236 [22:44] <dragontech90> its a belkin
#3237 [22:45] <dragontech90> >.>
#3238 [22:45] <dragontech90> auto fix its self so i bet so
#3239 [22:45] <oEnragedSFHo> can some1 help me
#3240 [22:45] <Kealper> this is #minecrafthelp....
#3241 [22:46] <barrycarlyon> <3 Kealper
#3242 [22:46] <oEnragedSFHo> i keep trying different servers for online but none will work the all say Connection Timed Out:connect
#3243 [22:46] <Kealper> oEnragedSFHo: are you sure those servers work for others?
#3244 [22:46] <oEnragedSFHo> yes because i was on them earlier
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#3246 [22:47] <Kealper> hmm....
#3247 [22:47] <barrycarlyon> Restart the computer.
#3248 [22:48] <oEnragedSFHo> i got lagged out and they havent worked sincew
#3249 [22:48] <oEnragedSFHo> ill try, brb
#3250 [22:48] <Champ> I only got that error message when I was testing a thing for hMod. But enough talk out that :I
#3251 [22:48] <Champ> about*
#3252 [22:48] <barrycarlyon> about waht?
#3253 [22:49] <Champ> mods.
#3254 [22:49] <barrycarlyon> Sorry what?
#3255 [22:49] <Champ> I was saying I was done talking about mods
#3256 [22:50] <barrycarlyon> Sorry what are mods *your not getting the joke*
#3257 [22:50] <Champ> Im sorry I didn't hear you
#3258 [22:50] <Champ> speak up
#3259 [22:50] <barrycarlyon> :-D
#3260 [22:50] <Champ> lol
#3261 [22:50] <Champ> <newbme
#3262 [22:52] <dragontech90> wow they tryn and tryn all the passwords
#3263 [22:52] <dragontech90> but they dont wna do hard reset
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#3267 [22:56] <dragontech90> wow
#3268 [22:56] <dragontech90> hard reset wont work
#3269 [22:56] <dragontech90> and im dead in water
#3270 [22:56] <barrycarlyon> ur doing it wrong then.......
#3271 [22:56] <dragontech90> no im not
#3272 [22:56] <dragontech90> we did HARD reset
#3273 [22:57] <barrycarlyon> its usually hold reset button for 30seoncds power off, keep holding 15seconds, power on whilst holding 30seconds
#3274 [22:57] <dragontech90> we did the tinny butten and all that
#3275 [22:58] <dragontech90> omg ima kill them
#3276 [22:59] <Kealper> o.o
#3277 [22:59] <dragontech90> they said do it to marow
#3278 [22:59] <dragontech90> with my bros help
#3279 [22:59] <Kealper> chillax, it's just a game O.o
#3280 [22:59] <dragontech90> cuse he was a paid tech guy
#3281 [22:59] <dragontech90> no
#3282 [22:59] <dragontech90> my pholosiphy is
#3283 [22:59] <dragontech90> do it now
#3284 [22:59] <dragontech90> b4 u forget
#3285 [23:00] <Kealper> mine is chillax, it's just a game
#3286 [23:00] <dragontech90> b4 something comes up
#3287 [23:00] <dragontech90> yea
#3288 [23:00] <dragontech90> but im a workaholic
#3289 [23:00] <dragontech90> and with my family if we wate
#3290 [23:00] <dragontech90> it will take a month
#3291 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> How did you hard reset your router?
#3292 [23:01] <dragontech90> by presing the little butten
#3293 [23:01] <dragontech90> for 5 sec
#3294 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> FOr how long?
#3295 [23:01] <dragontech90> and turnded it off
#3296 [23:01] <dragontech90> we have a belkin
#3297 [23:02] <dragontech90> that has a auto repair option
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#3299 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> You need to have the router unplugged, press the little button in, then reinsert the power
#3300 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Then continue to have it pressed for a number of seconds
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#3304 [23:05] <oEnragedSFHo> it didnt work
#3305 [23:05] <oEnragedSFHo> even though i restarted my computer
#3306 [23:06] * Kealper has no idea
#3306 [23:06] <Kealper> i guess java just hates good computers
#3307 [23:07] <oEnragedSFHo> i guess
#3308 [23:07] <barrycarlyon> oEnragedSFHo: next step is to reinstall minecraft I suppose
#3309 [23:08] <oEnragedSFHo> ? im using it in browser
#3310 [23:08] <Kealper> methinks that should have been the first step :/
#3311 [23:08] <barrycarlyon> it support: first step -> you turn if off and on again?
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#3313 [23:08] <oEnragedSFHo> i alread did
#3314 [23:08] <barrycarlyon> what reinstall?
#3315 [23:09] <oEnragedSFHo> no cut on and off
#3316 [23:09] <oEnragedSFHo> and i am using it in browser
#3317 [23:09] <barrycarlyon> we know you said :-D
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#3319 [23:10] <dragontech90> no work
#3320 [23:11] <Kealper> dragontech90: what exactly is the issue you are running in to?
#3321 [23:11] <contagiousduck> where can I go to find a good list of servers...or somewhere that people post servers?
#3322 [23:11] <Kealper> http://servers.minecraftforum.net
#3323 [23:11] <dragontech90> router pass was forgoten
#3324 [23:11] <Kealper> the password is probably admin
#3325 [23:11] <contagiousduck> is that the best there is? I look there all the time and can never get in to anything...any irc channels?
#3326 [23:12] <contagiousduck> maybe where I can just chat with people
#3327 [23:12] <Kealper> @smp
#3328 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> contagiousduck - Did you try the forums?
#3329 [23:12] <Kealper> #smp
#3330 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> contagiousduck - If you want to just chat, #MineCraft
#3331 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> But if you want to look for servers, or advertise, #smp, or the forums
#3332 [23:12] <oEnragedSFHo> sooo just forget about me?
#3333 [23:12] <contagiousduck> ok..thanks
#3334 [23:12] <oEnragedSFHo> lawlz
#3335 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> oEnragedSFHo - What's wrong?
#3336 [23:12] <barrycarlyon> http://servers.minecraftforum.net wont work for me Kealper odd.
#3337 [23:12] <Kealper> oEnragedSFHo: you're quite the impatient one, arn't you?
#3338 [23:13] <oEnragedSFHo> yes
#3339 [23:13] <Kealper> barrycarlyon: O.o works for me....i think
#3340 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> oEnragedSFHo - What's wrong?
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#3342 [23:13] <barrycarlyon> Kealper: I get webpage not available :-(
#3343 [23:14] <oEnragedSFHo> hold up a sec
#3344 [23:14] <oEnragedSFHo> every single server i try to go on online says Connection Timed Out:connection
#3345 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Try greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#3346 [23:14] <Kealper> indeed i do aswell....hmm i thought that was the address
#3347 [23:14] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#3348 [23:15] <oEnragedSFHo> well thats a first
#3349 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Welp, I see you on
#3350 [23:15] <Kealper> hmm...looks lime my router's dns cache has not updated that address yet
#3351 [23:15] <oEnragedSFHo> m in
#3352 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> I see that
#3353 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> It's the servers you connect to, not you
#3354 [23:15] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: new commands for AuBot, !enable and !disable
#3355 [23:15] <oEnragedSFHo> oh wow
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#3357 [23:16] <oEnragedSFHo> i feel stupid
#3358 [23:16] <Kealper> only me, you, and xales can use them, it disables all commands for everyone except us
#3359 [23:16] <Xerati> x!disable
#3360 [23:16] <oEnragedSFHo> im prolly gunna try my uther computer if it doesnt work
#3361 [23:16] <barrycarlyon> I'm assuming aubot checks to make sure the user is identified to servies? :-P
#3362 [23:16] <Kealper> well, all command except !motd
#3363 [23:16] <Xerati> heh
#3364 [23:16] <dragontech90> ok i got it now all i need is infp
#3365 [23:16] <oEnragedSFHo> im gunna play on yours for a while
#3366 [23:17] <Kealper> no, it's not that awesome....just checks for names against a hardcoded list
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#3368 [23:17] <Xerati> then if anyone dc's...we can use it before nickserv kicks our ass?
#3369 [23:17] <dragontech90> ok now i real info
#3370 [23:17] <oEnragedSFHo> is that OK grey?
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#3372 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> There's nobody on it oEnragedSFHo
#3373 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> It's just there to check connections
#3374 [23:17] <oEnragedSFHo> oh
#3375 [23:17] <oEnragedSFHo> ok
#3376 [23:17] <dragontech90> i have vertuial server input thing
#3377 [23:18] <dragontech90> what do i put in as a inbound port number
#3378 [23:18] <Kealper> [22:46] <Kealper> oEnragedSFHo: are you sure those servers work for others?
#3379 [23:18] <Kealper> just thought i'd point that out
#3380 [23:18] <oEnragedSFHo> yes
#3381 [23:19] <dragontech90> hey vulpine
#3382 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> YEs?
#3383 [23:19] <dragontech90> what do i put in for inbound port
#3384 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> 25565?
#3385 [23:20] <dragontech90> ok it shows inbound type privet ip and privet port
#3386 [23:20] <Kealper> dragontech90: have you tried http://portforward.com?
#3387 [23:20] <dragontech90> no
#3388 [23:20] <oEnragedSFHo> some arew
#3389 [23:20] <oEnragedSFHo> are working\
#3390 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> private IP is what your computer's internal IP
#3391 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> private port is, again, 25565
#3392 [23:21] <oEnragedSFHo> would I be able to make a Beta server without paying?
#3393 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3394 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Just won't be able to play on it without a premium client
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#3396 [23:21] <oEnragedSFHo> ive bought minecraft
#3397 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> I know
#3398 [23:21] <oEnragedSFHo> oh yeah lawlz
#3399 [23:21] <oEnragedSFHo> so what DO you mean?
#3400 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> What I meant was, you don't need to pay to host a beta server, only to play on one
#3401 [23:22] <oEnragedSFHo> can you teach me how to make one?
#3402 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> !server
#3403 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Grab one of those, run it, make sure you have port forwarding if you're behind a router
#3404 [23:23] <Champ> tbh im on windows and I use the jar
#3405 [23:24] <Champ> command prompt server window
#3406 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Nothing preventing you from using the .jar on windows
#3407 [23:24] <oEnragedSFHo> wait
#3408 [23:24] <oEnragedSFHo> how do i have port forwarding?
#3409 [23:24] <Champ> www.portforward.com
#3410 [23:24] <oEnragedSFHo> and what deos "behind a router" mean
#3411 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Is your computer hooked up to a router?
#3412 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Then it's "behind a router"
#3413 [23:25] <oEnragedSFHo> its wireless
#3414 [23:25] <dragontech90> portforward dont have my router lmao
#3415 [23:25] <oEnragedSFHo> its a laptop
#3416 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> It's still hooked up to a router
#3417 [23:25] <Champ> ^
#3418 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Thus, "behind a router"
#3419 [23:25] <oEnragedSFHo> kk
#3420 [23:25] <Champ> www.portforward.com
#3421 [23:25] <Champ> look at your router
#3422 [23:26] <Champ> and see the brand and type
#3423 [23:26] <Champ> like mine for example is a Linksys WRT160N
#3424 [23:26] <oEnragedSFHo> ok brb
#3425 [23:27] <Kealper> Grey you should check that pm i sent you before it loses context and you go "lolwut?" :P
#3426 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> lolwut?
#3427 [23:27] <Kealper> lol
#3428 [23:28] <dragontech90> they dont have belkin f7d6301
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#3430 [23:28] <Champ> really?
#3431 [23:29] <Champ> lemme seee
#3432 [23:29] <dragontech90> they have 4401 then8302
#3433 [23:29] * Champ looks
#3433 [23:30] <Champ> hmm
#3434 [23:30] <Champ> he's rigt
#3435 [23:30] <dragontech90> :P
#3436 [23:30] <Champ> +h
#3437 [23:30] <dragontech90> for once lol
#3438 [23:30] <Kealper> there was one other router i'v seen that was not on the list, too
#3439 [23:30] <Kealper> i've*
#3440 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Then you go to google "f7d6301 manual"
#3441 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> and find the download
#3442 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> http://www.speedguide.net/broadband-view.php?hw=1293
#3443 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Then you READ it
#3444 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Then you realize that this is a craptastic manual
#3445 [23:32] <dragontech90> hold on
#3446 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> and you find another manual
#3447 [23:32] <Kealper> lol
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#3449 [23:34] <Kealper> luke gb (trying not to highlight unnecessarity) is part of the admins for Bukkit O.o
#3450 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> that won't highlight him..
#3451 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> lukegb, you there?
#3452 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> :)
#3453 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Wow, that belkin router sucks.
#3454 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> has NAT, but no way to configure it, as far as I see
#3455 [23:36] <oEnragedSFHo> ok mine is WRT310N
#3456 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> LInksys, neat
#3457 [23:36] <oEnragedSFHo> i clicked it so now what?
#3458 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> oEnragedSFHo - What OS?
#3459 [23:36] <oEnragedSFHo> os?
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#3461 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> operating system
#3462 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> Windows? MacOS? *nix?
#3463 [23:36] <oEnragedSFHo> Linksys
#3464 [23:36] <oEnragedSFHo> Windows
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#3466 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Okay. Press your Windows+R key on your keyboard, brings up the run command
#3467 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Type in: cmd
#3468 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> then, at the black command prompt, type in ipconfig
#3469 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Tell me your ip address and default gateway.
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#3471 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> (or ipv4 address, if you're using new versions of windows)
#3472 [23:38] <oEnragedSFHo> defauly gateway?
#3473 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> default gateway, yes.
#3474 [23:38] <oEnragedSFHo> wats that mean???
#3475 [23:38] <oEnragedSFHo> IP:98.166.113.220
#3476 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Do you see the lines appear when you type in ipconfig?
#3477 [23:38] <mib_7zbvle> what do i do when my mine craft doesnt load multiplayer
#3478 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> mib_7zbvle - What error do you get?
#3479 [23:39] <oEnragedSFHo> no
#3480 [23:39] <oEnragedSFHo> what
#3481 [23:39] <oEnragedSFHo> wait
#3482 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> oEnragedSFHo - Huh?
#3483 [23:39] <oEnragedSFHo> when do i type in ipconfig
#3484 [23:39] <oEnragedSFHo> where
#3485 [23:39] <mib_7zbvle> it says that cant connect due to server problems
#3486 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Did you press your Windows+R key on your keyboard
#3487 [23:39] <oEnragedSFHo> yes
#3488 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Typed in: cmd
#3489 [23:40] <oEnragedSFHo> i have the black screen
#3490 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Okay, at the black screen, type in: ipconfig
#3491 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Do you see anything pop up?
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#3493 [23:42] <oEnragedSFHo> oh deafault gateway: 192.168.1.1 ipv4:192.168.1.130
#3494 [23:42] <mib_7zbvle> on my minecraft it says connection timed out
#3495 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> There you go
#3496 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Now, you can close that oEnragedSFHo.
#3497 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Go to your browser, go to http://192.168.1.1
#3498 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> If it hasn't been changed, "admin" for the password
#3499 [23:43] <oEnragedSFHo> what would m username be???
#3500 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> if it hasn't been changed, leave blank
#3501 [23:43] <Kealper> mib_7zbvle: that server is probably offline
#3502 [23:44] <oEnragedSFHo> What the f??
#3503 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> oEnragedSFHo - ?
#3504 [23:44] <mib_7zbvle> how do i get it online
#3505 [23:44] <oEnragedSFHo> i dont think its been changed
#3506 [23:44] <oEnragedSFHo> but it wont work
#3507 [23:44] <Kealper> mib_7zbvle: that's the job of whoever runs the server
#3508 [23:45] <mib_7zbvle> and also how do i find a server
#3509 [23:45] <Kealper> easiest way would be to check the forums
#3510 [23:45] <oEnragedSFHo> hello?
#3511 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> oEnragedSFHo - Then it's been changed.
#3512 [23:45] <mib_7zbvle> on witch website
#3513 [23:45] <oEnragedSFHo> wtf...
#3514 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> default login is just blank for the username, "admin" for the password
#3515 [23:45] <Kealper> http://minecraftforum.net
#3516 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Try admin/admin
#3517 [23:46] <oEnragedSFHo> still not working
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#3519 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah, it's different.
#3520 [23:46] <oEnragedSFHo> how would i change it?
#3521 [23:46] <mib_7zbvle> one more thing i bought the game but it didnt download
#3522 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Need to find whoever changed it, or you reset your router back to factory default
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#3524 [23:47] <oEnragedSFHo> you know what? can i curse in here?
#3525 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Go for it
#3526 [23:47] <Kealper> !client
#3527 [23:47] <oEnragedSFHo> THIS IS SOOO FUCKING FUCKTARDED
#3528 [23:48] <oEnragedSFHo> fucking retarded ass minecrafters notch
#3529 [23:48] <Kealper> >.>
#3530 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Not Notch's fault your router's default password has been changed
#3531 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Ask whoever owns it
#3532 [23:48] <oEnragedSFHo> my grandfathers asleep
#3533 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Thousands of other people have gotten their servers up and running just fine.
#3534 [23:48] <oEnragedSFHo> and he owns it
#3535 [23:48] <Kealper> looks like you get to wait the whole night
#3536 [23:48] <oEnragedSFHo> i know
#3537 [23:49] <oEnragedSFHo> any1 got a good server i can join?
#3538 [23:50] <Kealper> mine's private
#3539 [23:50] <oEnragedSFHo> can i join it please
#3540 [23:50] <Kealper> and offline atm -.--
#3541 [23:50] <oEnragedSFHo> oh
#3542 [23:50] <barrycarlyon> minetcraft.net/servers.jsp has a list irrc
#3543 [23:51] <oEnragedSFHo> kk
#3544 [23:51] <Kealper> wrong type of servers
#3545 [23:51] <mib_7zbvle> kealper??
#3546 [23:51] <oEnragedSFHo> oh i need beta servers
#3547 [23:51] <Kealper> those are classic iirc
#3548 [23:51] <Kealper> mib_7zbvle??
#3549 [23:51] <mib_7zbvle> now it downloaded and it brought my to the login screen now what do i do
#3550 [23:51] <Kealper> log in?
#3551 [23:52] <Kealper> you did buy the game, right?
#3552 [23:52] <oEnragedSFHo> yes
#3553 [23:52] <mib_7zbvle> yes i did
#3554 [23:52] <Kealper> log in then...
#3555 [23:52] <Kealper> same username/password that you use to log in to the website
#3556 [23:52] <mib_7zbvle> ok
#3557 [23:53] <mib_7zbvle> thank you
#3558 [23:53] <oEnragedSFHo> get your server online i wanna play with mib_7zbvle
#3559 [23:54] <mib_7zbvle> know any servers
#3560 [23:54] <oEnragedSFHo> do yah?
#3561 [23:54] <Kealper> i never thought i would have to rely on those little bumps on the f and j keys to tell you where your fingera are...typing without any light on a black keyboard sucks lol
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#3563 [23:54] <mib_7zbvle> or can someone tell me how to host one
#3564 [23:54] <mib_7zbvle> no i don not oEnragedSFHo
#3565 [23:54] <Kealper> mib_7zbvle: there is a channel on this network called #smp
#3566 [23:55] <Kealper> if you type /join #smp
#3567 [23:55] <Kealper> you can get in to it
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#3569 [23:55] <Kealper> smp = survival multiplayer, if you were wondering
#3570 [23:57] <Kealper> i need some sort of fast markup to like..underline parts of text...like doing *some underlined text* or something...
#3571 [23:57] <Kealper> not sure if irssi's plugin stuff is powerful enough to do that though :/
#3572 [23:58] <mib_7zbvle> kealper how do you host a server
#3573 [23:59] <Kealper> before i tell you, you should answer yes to all these questions i'm about to ask
#3574 [23:59] <mib_7zbvle> ok
#3575 [23:59] <Kealper> do you know how to port forward stuff in your router
#3576 [23:59] <mib_7zbvle> no
#3577 [23:59] <oEnragedSFHo> minecraft.prox12.com:25565
#3578 [23:59] <Kealper> do you know know what your router username and password is, and have you used portforward.com before?