#MinecraftHelp > 2011-01-03
#1 [00:00] <mib_7zbvle> yes and no
#2 [00:00] <mib_7zbvle> oEnragedSFHo is that the server
#3 [00:00] <Kealper> ok then..
#4 [00:00] <oEnragedSFHo> yes
#5 [00:01] <Kealper> do you have the computing requirements to host a server and play the client at the same time
#6 [00:01] <mib_7zbvle> yes
#7 [00:01] <Kealper> you're sure? the server needs 1 gig of ram to itself
#8 [00:02] <mib_7zbvle> yea i have 2 gigs of ram exactly
#9 [00:02] <Kealper> so you should have 3-4 gigs of ram if you plan to host and play from the same machine
#10 [00:02] <Ronjoe> waitwait
#11 [00:02] <Ronjoe> what os?
#12 [00:02] <mib_7zbvle> and i can put more in
#13 [00:02] <Ronjoe> do that
#14 [00:03] <mib_7zbvle> in like two secs
#15 [00:03] <dragontech90> how i enable the flying all that comands
#16 [00:03] <Kealper> assuming you have windows vista or 7, those will use about 500-800mb of ram alone
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#18 [00:03] <Kealper> dragontech90: uhh....sounds like a mod
#19 [00:03] <Ronjoe> ehh
#20 [00:03] <mib_7zbvle> uh uhhhhhhh
#21 [00:03] <Ronjoe> damn mibbit. -mib_7zbvle- VERSION http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client:3282:3282
#22 [00:04] <Kealper> his name starts with mib_....ofcourse he is using mibbit
#23 [00:04] <dragontech90> so how do get them
#24 [00:04] <Ronjoe> anyways, what operating system do you run?
#25 [00:04] <mib_7zbvle> i have windows 7 and a mac kealper
#26 [00:04] <Kealper> dragontech90: that is out of the scope of this channel
#27 [00:04] <oEnragedSFHo> omfg its doing that thing again with the Connection Timed Out
#28 [00:04] <Kealper> mib_7zbvle: separate computers?
#29 [00:04] <mib_7zbvle> i have
#30 [00:04] <dragontech90> so no flyinging darn
#31 [00:04] <mib_7zbvle> yes
#32 [00:04] <oEnragedSFHo> ;hyju77777777777777777;lm
#33 [00:04] <Ronjoe> dragontech90: stay put, imma get you a link
#34 [00:04] <oEnragedSFHo> my bad
#35 [00:04] <mib_7zbvle> srry didnt understand question
#36 [00:05] <Kealper> might be better off running the server software on the mac, if your windows 7 machine plays the client fine
#37 [00:05] <Ronjoe> yeah
#38 [00:05] <oEnragedSFHo> im gonna try my other cp
#39 [00:05] <Ronjoe> i agree
#40 [00:05] <mib_7zbvle> so my last question is how to host a server
#41 [00:05] <Ronjoe> get a software
#42 [00:05] <Ronjoe> start it up
#43 [00:05] <Kealper> first thing's first
#44 [00:06] <Ronjoe> ah, portforwarding
#45 [00:06] <Kealper> download the latest server software on to your mac
#46 [00:06] <Kealper> !server
#47 [00:06] <mib_7zbvle> ok 1 sec
#48 [00:06] <mib_7zbvle> k
#49 [00:06] <Kealper> put that jar into it's own folder, because it will create configs and such
#50 [00:07] <Kealper> then run it...it'll yell saying that it can't find files, but it will create them
#51 [00:07] <mib_7zbvle> ok
#52 [00:07] <Kealper> say when the server is running and it has said it is done loading
#53 [00:08] <mib_7zbvle> ok
#54 [00:08] <Kealper> now, do you know your mac's internal ip?
#55 [00:08] <mib_7zbvle> no
#56 [00:09] <Kealper> open a terminal window, and i will probably get this wrong, but type ifconfig
#57 [00:09] <Kealper> and i'll be googling to see if that is even the command
#58 [00:09] <mib_7zbvle> ook
#59 [00:09] <Kealper> according to wikipedia it is
#60 [00:10] <mib_7zbvle> ehh screw this ill try another day ok
#61 [00:10] <Kealper> in that big spam of stuff that popped up, is there an "inet addr:" that starts with 192.168?
#62 [00:10] <Kealper> ok then lol
#63 [00:11] <Kealper> so anyways, today i learned that osx is actually based off bsd
#64 [00:12] <Kealper> and since i've got absolutely nothing better to do, i'll go try compiling gentoo in a virtual machine
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#67 [00:19] <sinedeviance> hi all
#68 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#69 [00:19] <sinedeviance> i'm having trouble getting music to work. i'm on beta 1.1_02. I'm fairly certain it worked sometime before.
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#71 [00:20] <amphibulus> hello
#72 [00:20] <amphibulus> is anyone there
#73 [00:20] <Kealper> crap. i can't get on the gentoo site -.-
#74 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#75 [00:20] <sinedeviance> actually i'm positive it worked before. i turned it completely off for a while but now it doesn't work when it turn it back to 100%
#76 [00:20] <amphibulus> ok
#77 [00:21] <amphibulus> kealper how do i "connect"
#78 [00:21] <Kealper> sinedeviance: is your game muted in the system sound mixer?
#79 [00:21] <Kealper> amphibulus: connect to?
#80 [00:21] <sinedeviance> Kealper: nah, sound effects work fine
#81 [00:21] <Kealper> oh...weird
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#83 [00:21] <amphibulus> multiplayer it says timed out : connect
#84 [00:21] <Kealper> well, i have noticed that the music does not play much in smp
#85 [00:22] <Kealper> amphibulus: are you sure the server that you are trying to connect to is not broken?
#86 [00:22] <amphibulus> no because im trying to connect to my friends serverand ti wont connect
#87 [00:22] <sinedeviance> Kealper: this is in singleplayer, i currently dont play online
#88 [00:22] <Kealper> are you using the correct ip?
#89 [00:22] <amphibulus> srry my keyboard is crap
#90 [00:23] <Kealper> sinedeviance: oh....weird
#91 [00:23] <amphibulus> yes
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#93 [00:23] <Kealper> amphibulus: what ip are you using?
#94 [00:23] <amphibulus> 96.166.133.220
#95 [00:24] <Kealper> !check 96.166.133.220
#96 [00:24] <sinedeviance> server issue
#97 [00:24] <Kealper> he does not have his server set up right
#98 [00:24] <Super_Meat_Boy> does it use another port?
#99 [00:24] <Super_Meat_Boy> or have you forgot to port forward
#100 [00:24] <sinedeviance> lol. super meat boy.
#101 [00:24] <amphibulus> i have no idea
#102 [00:24] <sinedeviance> that game is ... difficult :\
#103 [00:24] <Kealper> Super_Meat_Boy: are you legit? or a poser?
#104 [00:25] <Super_Meat_Boy> im legit
#105 [00:25] <Super_Meat_Boy> ...erm
#106 [00:25] <Super_Meat_Boy> hang on a second
#107 [00:25] <amphibulus> kelper do you have a server
#108 [00:25] <Super_Meat_Boy> crap, who nicked to GLaDOS
#109 [00:26] <Kealper> Super_Meat_Boy: i guess this was a triump
#110 [00:26] <Super_Meat_Boy> it wasnt :c
#111 [00:26] <Kealper> amphibulus: normally yes, but it's broken atm
#112 [00:26] * sinedeviance updates java
#112 [00:26] <sinedeviance> maybe updating to 6_23 will fix the music issue
#113 [00:26] <Super_Meat_Boy> >_<
#114 [00:26] <Super_Meat_Boy> screw it
#115 [00:26] <Kealper> are i ask what's with the name change? lol
#116 [00:27] <sinedeviance> wait, why did Glados get kicked?
#117 [00:27] <sinedeviance> he used to play on my server
#118 [00:27] <Super_Meat_Boy> i was going to nick to GLaDOS
#119 [00:27] <sinedeviance> seemed to be a standup guy
#120 [00:27] <Kealper> [EsperNet] -!- Nick GLaDOS is already in use
#121 [00:27] <Kealper> owned
#122 [00:27] <Super_Meat_Boy> but the server didnt let me :c
#123 [00:27] <Super_Meat_Boy> no, i own GLaDOS
#124 [00:27] <Kealper> ghost it?
#125 [00:27] <sinedeviance> Super_Meat_Boy: so wait, you're the SAME glados?
#126 [00:27] <Super_Meat_Boy> yes
#127 [00:27] <sinedeviance> Super_Meat_Boy: uh, then what was my server's address?
#128 [00:27] <Super_Meat_Boy> sinemc.co.cc
#129 [00:27] <sinedeviance> good man!
#130 [00:27] <sinedeviance> :D
#131 [00:28] <Kealper> sinedeviance: a simple /whois shows that
#132 [00:28] <sinedeviance> yeah he's the real deal
#133 [00:28] <Super_Meat_Boy> also why u no in #sdserver
#134 [00:28] <sinedeviance> Super_Meat_Boy: because the server is down indefinitely
#135 [00:28] <Super_Meat_Boy> FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
#136 [00:29] <sinedeviance> Super_Meat_Boy: do /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <pass>
#137 [00:29] <sinedeviance> Super_Meat_Boy: it will kick your clone
#138 [00:29] <Super_Meat_Boy> no, im using GLaDOS on another conn
#139 [00:29] <sinedeviance> uh... k?
#140 [00:29] <Kealper> i'm pretty sure he knows how to use ns :/
#141 [00:29] <Super_Meat_Boy> so im not limited to 25 channels
#142 [00:29] <sinedeviance> ahh, i see
#143 [00:29] <clone1018> wat
#144 [00:29] <Kealper> you're using more than 25 channels?
#145 [00:29] <Super_Meat_Boy> yes
#146 [00:29] <Kealper> that's hardcore
#147 [00:30] <Super_Meat_Boy> SHOCK HORROR
#148 [00:30] <sinedeviance> no doubt
#149 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> only 25?
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#151 [00:33] <barrycarlyon> Why so many. We all know #minecrafthelp is the place to be
#152 [00:33] <SmilingRob> is there some kind of command line interface to the game where I can get my advanced on?
#153 [00:34] <SmilingRob> like a spawn item thing or something like that
#154 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> /give <name> <item id> <number>
#155 [00:34] <SmilingRob> right like that
#156 [00:35] <Kealper> oh joy..i found a torrent of gentoo..and like all nix torrents...it's going stupid fast <3
#157 [00:35] <barrycarlyon> :-D
#158 [00:35] <Kealper> SmilingRob: an example, if i wanted 64 peices of item 1 (stone), i would type /give Kealper 1 64
#159 [00:36] <barrycarlyon> Kealper: not found!
#160 [00:36] <Kealper> lol
#161 [00:38] <sinedeviance> Kealper: why gentoo?
#162 [00:39] <Kealper> never tried it before, and i would like to see if it's any good
#163 [00:39] <sinedeviance> eh... yeah, have fun compiling things for the next 24 hours
#164 [00:39] <Kealper> yea, that's why i want to try it...lol
#165 [00:39] <sinedeviance> i'm not joking either; my first gentoo install literally took two and a half days
#166 [00:39] <Kealper> start the process, throw on a documentary and go to sleep lol
#167 [00:39] <sinedeviance> that was way back in like 2004, but still
#168 [00:40] <Kealper> lol
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#170 [00:40] <Kealper> was it worth the wait though? lol
#171 [00:41] <sinedeviance> eh, it's linux
#172 [00:41] <sinedeviance> so not really
#173 [00:41] <Kealper> lol
#174 [00:41] <sinedeviance> linux is linux when you really get down to it
#175 [00:42] <sinedeviance> any distro can be customized
#176 [00:42] <sinedeviance> gentoo might have a leg up because of performance counters, but still
#177 [00:42] <Super_Meat_Boy> centos?
#178 [00:43] <Kealper> running that on this shell right now....i hate it -.-
#179 [00:43] <Super_Meat_Boy> I LURVE IT
#180 [00:43] <sinedeviance> i run (a highly customized) debian 5 server, and ubuntu desktop
#181 [00:43] <sinedeviance> just easier
#182 [00:44] <Super_Meat_Boy> ubuntu is shit
#183 [00:44] <Super_Meat_Boy> inb4 *nix flame war
#184 [00:44] <Kealper> lol
#185 [00:44] <Kealper> ubuntu is only bad because it's like the herpes of distros....
#186 [00:45] <sinedeviance> ubuntu really isn't bad at all
#187 [00:45] <SmilingRob> why is it like herpes?
#188 [00:45] <sinedeviance> it went through some rough patches but 10.10 is really good
#189 [00:45] <Kealper> if by herpes i mean is full of people who do not know what a terminal/shell window is
#190 [00:45] <sinedeviance> Kealper: dont you mean 'like the Mac OS X of distros' ?
#191 [00:45] <SmilingRob> oh right
#192 [00:45] <sinedeviance> cause only noobs and fanbois use mac
#193 [00:46] <sinedeviance> ;)
#194 [00:46] <Kealper> and i'll admit i'm not that great at cli nix, but i can still use it -.-
#195 [00:46] <Kealper> and yes, exactly sinedeviance
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#197 [00:46] <SmilingRob> I only use ubuntu server so I don't know about all that fancy gui stuff
#198 [00:46] <sinedeviance> eh, ubuntu might be tailored for new linux users but it's still highly configurable for power users
#199 [00:46] <Kealper> you're not mising much
#200 [00:47] <Kealper> i gotta slow down my powerseding...lagging my ssh client lol
#201 [00:47] <Kealper> powerseeding*
#202 [00:48] <Kealper> did anyone see that MineOS thing i linked earlier?
#203 [00:48] <Kealper> someone actually name a super trimmed down nix that is basically just the kernel, java, and an mc server
#204 [00:49] <aetherian> ima backa
#205 [00:49] <SmilingRob> lol
#206 [00:49] * aetherian wipes the smile off of SmilingRob's face
#206 [00:49] <SmilingRob> why would you do that? does the MC server take a lot of resources?
#207 [00:50] <Kealper> it does some neat stuff like load the world to/from a ramdrive and such, so there is no hdd bottleneck
#208 [00:50] * SmilingRob changes nick to just Rob
#208 [00:50] <Kealper> and it's quite good on resource usage
#209 [00:50] <Kealper> http://minecraft.codeemo.com/
#210 [00:51] <Kealper> and gentoo is done downloading....
#211 [00:51] * Kealper makes a vm
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#212 [00:56] <aetherian> !ping
#213 [00:57] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.701 Seconds.
#214 [00:57] <aetherian> hmm
#215 [00:57] <aetherian> my minecraft
#216 [00:57] <aetherian> is having
#217 [00:57] <aetherian> like
#218 [00:57] <aetherian> massive smp delay issues
#219 [00:57] <aetherian> like, 10-40 seconds delay
#220 [00:57] <Kealper> you hosting from your own internet?
#221 [00:57] <Kealper> wait
#222 [00:57] <Kealper> your own computer*
#223 [00:57] <aetherian> some other guys server
#224 [00:58] <Kealper> positive it's not his server?
#225 [00:58] <aetherian> ?
#226 [00:58] <aetherian> it's just some guy
#227 [00:58] <Kealper> are you sure it is not that guy's server/internet that sucks nuts?
#228 [00:59] <dragontech90> how do you reset the hole lvl
#229 [00:59] <Kealper> dragontech90: what?
#230 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> delete /world/
#231 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> It'll recreate a new one
#232 [01:01] <aetherian> slrry back
#233 [01:01] <aetherian> anyway
#234 [01:01] <dragontech90> were i do that at
#235 [01:01] <aetherian> kelly, everyone else on the server is just fine
#236 [01:01] <Matttttthew> Ugh
#237 [01:01] <Matttttthew> Minecraft players need to learn some basic Grammar =P
#238 [01:01] <aetherian> and I have had this problem on just about every single server I've been on
#239 [01:02] <Matttttthew> Then it's your internet, I'd guess
#240 [01:02] <Matttttthew> If you don't have problems with the single player
#241 [01:02] * Kealper is going to stop responsing to you unless you start using Kealper
#241 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Heh, Kelly..
#242 [01:02] <Kealper> i hate you lol
#243 [01:02] <dragontech90> hey gray
#244 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> Hallo?
#245 [01:03] <dragontech90> i ned to pm u about a link a guy game me
#246 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> Um, okay?
#247 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> You know you can just /msg Greyvulpine whatever
#248 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to DCC chat me
#249 [01:04] <aetherian> oh yes you will
#250 [01:05] <aetherian> oh fine
#251 [01:05] <aetherian> I need help
#252 [01:05] <aetherian> kealps
#253 [01:05] <Mikau> Your name is Kelly?
#254 [01:05] <Kealper> getting warmer....
#255 [01:05] <Mikau> Like the donkey?
#256 [01:05] <aetherian> kealper's name is kelly
#257 [01:05] <Kealper> no..it's Ken -.-
#258 [01:05] <aetherian> Oo
#259 [01:05] <Mikau> Oh, I'm disappointed in you.
#260 [01:06] <aetherian> how's barbie nowadays?
#261 [01:06] <Mikau> I thought you were Kinky Kelly and the Sexy Stud.
#262 [01:06] <Kealper> i will timeban you >.>
#263 [01:06] <aetherian> <3
#264 [01:06] <aetherian> kealper
#265 [01:06] <Kealper> yes aetherian?
#266 [01:06] <aetherian> why don't you like me asking about your gir- I mean, do you know the answer to your question?
#267 [01:07] <aetherian> *my question
#268 [01:07] <Kealper> "do you know the answer to your question?" -briliant
#269 [01:07] <aetherian> egad
#270 [01:07] <Mikau> It's 7, isn't it Kealper.
#271 [01:07] <Mikau> It's always 7.
#272 [01:07] <Kealper> it's 42
#273 [01:07] <Mikau> 7
#274 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> 42
#275 [01:08] <Mikau> Not to small, not to big, just wholesome and hearty. It's 7.
#276 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> 42
#277 [01:08] <aetherian> kealper.
#278 [01:08] * Matttttthew secibds 42
#278 [01:08] <Mikau> 42 is a gay trend number
#279 [01:08] <genshou> 6 times 7 isn't even a prime factorization.
#280 [01:08] <genshou> :P
#281 [01:08] <aetherian> why the heck am I laggin' so much on MC
#282 [01:08] <Mikau> Because your computer is a 386
#283 [01:08] <Kealper> Mikau: http://tinyurl.com/6wqsx4
#284 [01:08] <Mikau> Get outta the late 80s dude
#285 [01:09] <Kealper> aetherian: is it with all servers? or just that one?
#286 [01:09] <aetherian> it's with all, so far
#287 [01:09] <Mikau> Google can't even get youtube right.
#288 [01:09] <Mikau> Their opinion means nothing.
#289 [01:09] <aetherian> sometimes it will... ah...
#290 [01:09] <Diablothein> Dude...
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#292 [01:09] <aetherian> go down to a lower (2-6 second) delay for like a minute max
#293 [01:09] <aetherian> but that's rare
#294 [01:10] <Mikau> Better computer, sir.
#295 [01:10] <aetherian> ...
#296 [01:10] <aetherian> need me to list specs?
#297 [01:10] <Diablothein> 6 base 13 X 9 base 13 = 42 base 13
#298 [01:10] <aetherian> cpu is core i7-720QM processor
#299 [01:10] <Kealper> try greyvulpine.dyndns.org if grey even has that running, mine is borked atm
#300 [01:10] <Miclee> I wonder how hard it'd be to make my campaign go viral a second time.
#301 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> It's running
#302 [01:10] <aetherian> VGA is NVIDIA Geforce GTS 250m / 1GB DDR3
#303 [01:11] <Kealper> Mikau: a second time? lol
#304 [01:11] <aetherian> led screen
#305 [01:11] <Diablothein> Mic, be friendly to us, and we'll spread it via FB
#306 [01:11] <Diablothein> g'mornin
#307 [01:11] <Kealper> fail....
#308 [01:11] <Kealper> Miclee*
#309 [01:11] <aetherian> ram is DDRIII 2GB*2
#310 [01:11] <Kealper> m[tab] ftw
#311 [01:11] <Miclee> I can do better than facebook
#312 [01:11] <aetherian> so four gb
#313 [01:11] <aetherian> and other stuff
#314 [01:11] <Miclee> I've done Kotaku/PCGamer/G4TV/Rockpapershotgun/Escapist/etc. the first time.
#315 [01:12] <aetherian> leaker- I mean leaper- I mean mr. repeal, er, kealper, any ideas?
#316 [01:12] <Kealper> not sure if you can do it a second time if you went that hardcore the first time
#317 [01:12] <Miclee> I know I'd be able to when the campaign is 100% complete
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#319 [01:12] <Miclee> Not sure just for the first map being complete
#320 [01:12] <Miclee> Meh, we'll see
#321 [01:12] <Miclee> I'll try and get Notch to tweet it
#322 [01:12] <Kealper> that'll get a ton of hits lol
#323 [01:13] <Miclee> That's what? 40,000 + anyone who spreads it after that
#324 [01:13] <Kealper> Notch is up to like....over 70k followers now i think
#325 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, neat. I've got 57 hours of KF gameplay, and over 5700 headshots recorded so far.
#326 [01:13] <Miclee> Oh, that's even better
#327 [01:13] <Mikau> Kentucky Fried Gameplay.
#328 [01:13] <Kealper> lol
#329 [01:15] <aetherian> comon
#330 [01:15] <aetherian> can anyone help me?
#331 [01:15] <Kealper> did you try connectingto grey's server to see?
#332 [01:15] <aetherian> no lemme check
#333 [01:15] <Mikau> Get a better computer.
#334 [01:15] <Mikau> Yours clearly was built by Mexican Gunslingers.
#335 [01:16] <aetherian> ...
#336 [01:16] <Matttttthew> xD
#337 [01:16] <Kealper> lol
#338 [01:16] <aetherian> it's one of the best laptops available
#339 [01:16] <aetherian> without
#340 [01:16] <aetherian> spending
#341 [01:16] <aetherian> tooooo much
#342 [01:16] <aetherian> it's a gt640, from msi
#343 [01:17] <aetherian> hey
#344 [01:17] <aetherian> where's that server ip
#345 [01:17] <Mikau> You can't trust a cowboy to build your computer.
#346 [01:17] <Kealper> greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#347 [01:17] <Mikau> Even if they are MSI Mexican Gunslingers
#348 [01:17] <aetherian> ima try the server
#349 [01:18] <Kealper> this gentoo live cd looks scary...lots of CLI stuff flying by
#350 [01:18] <aetherian> oh, is it best to set minecraft's priority to high?
#351 [01:18] <Mikau> I heard that Gentoo was designed by those crazy arabian warriors that ride around in the desert on camels.
#352 [01:18] <Kealper> aetherian: uhh...it can't hurt it...lol
#353 [01:19] <Mikau> Aetherian
#354 [01:19] <Kealper> ooo....XFCE
#355 [01:19] <Mikau> lower the fog
#356 [01:19] <Mikau> set t to fast
#357 [01:19] <Mikau> and make sure it's vanilla minecraft
#358 [01:19] <aetherian> nah
#359 [01:19] <aetherian> mikau
#360 [01:19] <aetherian> uh
#361 [01:19] <aetherian> look
#362 [01:19] <Mikau> if you still lag, then it's your computer being designed by Mexicans.
#363 [01:19] <aetherian> it's very well and speedy local
#364 [01:19] <Mikau> Oh, just on SMP?
#365 [01:19] <Mikau> Well then, you need a better internet, sir.
#366 [01:19] <aetherian> I'm not lagging, so much as being delayed
#367 [01:19] <Mikau> Call your ISP, and tell them to nut up.
#368 [01:20] <aetherian> and we just got our freaking router replaced
#369 [01:20] <Mikau> Who's your ISP?
#370 [01:20] <aetherian> ISP?
#371 [01:20] <Kealper> aetherian: http://speedtest.net
#372 [01:20] <Mikau> Internet Service Provider
#373 [01:20] <Kealper> link result
#374 [01:20] <aetherian> uh, 2wire?
#375 [01:20] <Mikau> Your ping might be through the roof.
#376 [01:20] <aetherian> is that what you're looking for?
#377 [01:20] <aetherian> !ping
#378 [01:20] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.651 Seconds.
#379 [01:20] <aetherian> hmmph
#380 [01:20] <Mikau> (1:20:28 AM) Kealper: aetherian: http://speedtest.net
#381 [01:20] <aetherian> normally it's 0.3ish
#382 [01:20] <aetherian> brb
#383 [01:21] <aetherian> ima try this server
#384 [01:21] <aetherian> of grey
#385 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> aetherian's on
#386 [01:21] <Mikau> ban him, he's a troll
#387 [01:21] <aetherian> shi- creepers
#388 [01:22] <aetherian> and shut up mikey
#389 [01:22] <Kealper> lagging?
#390 [01:22] <Mikau> Also, I heard he kidnaps children and forces them to watch the third Back to the Future movie on repeat.
#391 [01:22] <aetherian> it's good
#392 [01:22] <aetherian> it's like
#393 [01:22] <Mikau> Without letting them watch the first two.
#394 [01:22] <aetherian> I dunno
#395 [01:22] <aetherian> 1-2 second delay
#396 [01:22] <aetherian> very well good
#397 [01:22] <Kealper> then stop choosing servers running off dialup half a world away
#398 [01:23] <aetherian> hmm
#399 [01:23] <aetherian> then tell me
#400 [01:23] <aetherian> why come
#401 [01:23] <aetherian> everyone else on the god danged servers are good?
#402 [01:23] <Mikau> Because they're not on the other side of the planet?
#403 [01:23] <aetherian> .............................................................................................................................................
#404 [01:23] <Kealper> this gentoo installer is being stupid
#405 [01:24] <aetherian> well
#406 [01:24] <panitaliemom> I am new to minecraft, and I am trying to setup a server version so I can play with my son. I have a fixed external IP address on my router. But, I am having trouble opening the port..
#407 [01:24] <aetherian> so far
#408 [01:24] <aetherian> I have gone on
#409 [01:24] <aetherian> like what, 5 people on the other side of the world's servers?
#410 [01:24] <aetherian> in a row?
#411 [01:24] <Kealper> panitaliemom: have you tried checking http://portforward.com ?
#412 [01:24] <Mikau> Is your son in the same house as you, panitaliemom?
#413 [01:24] <Kealper> and what Mikau said
#414 [01:24] <panitaliemom> Yes, same house.
#415 [01:24] <Mikau> You should be able to host it locally and it will be much faster.
#416 [01:24] <Kealper> no need to port forward then
#417 [01:24] <aetherian> now ima try speedtest
#418 [01:24] <Mikau> Without opening any ports either.
#419 [01:25] <panitaliemom> He is running on a mac. We are both accessing the internet via the router.
#420 [01:25] <panitaliemom> Host locally? terrific.
#421 [01:25] <Kealper> you should be able to use the host's internal ip
#422 [01:25] <panitaliemom> I can search the help files for that.
#423 [01:25] <Mikau> I have no idea how mac / PC networking works though, but you should be able to connect to the local IP for the computer it's hosted on.
#424 [01:25] <aetherian> um
#425 [01:25] <aetherian> wow
#426 [01:25] <panitaliemom> OK, great idea. Let me work on it.
#427 [01:25] <aetherian> my speedtest.net
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#429 [01:25] <aetherian> kind of uh
#430 [01:26] <aetherian> ended prematurely
#431 [01:26] <aetherian> troublr reading latency file or whatever >.>
#432 [01:26] <aetherian> wow
#433 [01:26] <Mikau> Check the local IP on the computer it's hosted on, should look something like this: (192.168.x.x)
#434 [01:26] <Mikau> Then have the other computer connect to that address with the port it's hosted on(25565 is the default I believe)
#435 [01:26] <Kealper> aetherian: did you select the recomended server?
#436 [01:26] <Mikau> Should be like "192.168.x.x:25565
#437 [01:27] <aetherian> ima x this out for a lil
#438 [01:27] <aetherian> I'mm be back with my score
#439 [01:29] <Mikau> I bet you he's downloading pornography.
#440 [01:29] <Mikau> and it's lagging his internets.
#441 [01:29] <Kealper> probably
#442 [01:30] <Matttttthew> xD
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#444 [01:31] <panitaliemom> Sorry, but I in my 50's and struggling a bit with all the new complexity. My router has an internal IP address, and a fixed external address. I am on a laptop that is connected (wireless) to that router.
#445 [01:31] <panitaliemom> So, he uses which IP address to get to my machine?
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#448 [01:32] <Kealper> panitaliemom: your local ip address, not the external one
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#450 [01:32] <aetherian> hey
#451 [01:32] <aetherian> you want my speedtest ranking
#452 [01:32] <Kealper> sure?
#453 [01:32] <aetherian> for the place closest to me
#454 [01:33] <aetherian> download: 4.96 Mv/s, upload: 0.64 Mb/s, Ping:10ms
#455 [01:33] <panitaliemom> OK, thanks.
#456 [01:33] <aetherian> *Mb
#457 [01:33] <Mikau> click the start button(and click run), or the windows circle thingy, then type in "cmd"
#458 [01:33] <aetherian> that good enough, keals
#459 [01:33] <Kealper> yeah, if you have any questions, feel free to ask us
#460 [01:33] <Kealper> yes aetherian, you probably just have really bad luck choosing servers
#461 [01:33] <aetherian> so it seems
#462 [01:33] <Mikau> Once that appears, type "ipconfig" into the black screen and look beside IPv4
#463 [01:33] <aetherian> hmm
#464 [01:34] <Mikau> It should say 192.168.something.something
#465 [01:34] <aetherian> I still think something's up with minecraft about all this.
#466 [01:34] <Mikau> That's the address he can use to connect
#467 [01:51] <clone1018> Your connection might not be able to handle it aetherian
#468 [01:52] <aetherian> whyever wouldn't it
#469 [01:52] <clone1018> 0.64Mb is pretty slow
#470 [01:52] <aetherian> it is?
#471 [01:52] <aetherian> hmm
#472 [01:52] <clone1018> Maybe like 2-3 people. 4 could be laggy
#473 [01:52] <aetherian> um
#474 [01:52] <aetherian> I'm not hosting the server
#475 [01:52] <aetherian> I'm on a different guys place
#476 [01:52] <clone1018> oh
#477 [01:52] <aetherian> .....
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#479 [02:02] <Solvius> gooooodmorning
#480 [02:02] <aetherian> it's 11 pm
#481 [02:04] <Mikau> It's 2am
#482 [02:04] <Mikau> Good morning.
#483 [02:06] <aetherian> is not
#484 [02:06] <aetherian> >:O
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#486 [02:32] <aetherian> night folks
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#488 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> Laters
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#490 [02:38] <sinedeviance> hmm... music IS working
#491 [02:38] <sinedeviance> but it only works when the sun rises
#492 [02:38] <sinedeviance> weird
#493 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, bukkit's going to get rid of flatfiles?
#494 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Bah!
#495 [02:40] <Kealper> i refuse to clutter my mysql server with even more dbs
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#498 [02:55] <sinedeviance> wow. my minecraft world is now ruined :\
#499 [02:56] <sinedeviance> the world generator spawned an above-ground lava flow as i was walking around, and it set a tree on fire
#500 [02:56] <sinedeviance> now half the world is burning
#501 [02:56] <sinedeviance> how do i stop this? :\
#502 [02:56] <Kealper> can't :/
#503 [02:56] <sinedeviance> i dont want to re-gen, i've invested A LOT of time into this world
#504 [02:57] <lemon-rev> make a bucket and put it in a good spot
#505 [02:57] <sinedeviance> bullshit! isn't there a world editor i can do it with?
#506 [02:57] <Halsh> Build a wall to stop the lava? Cut down trees in the way? water?
#507 [02:57] <Kealper> best way to fight it is to keep the fire from spreading further
#508 [02:57] <genshou> sinedeviance, wait till the fires die out, then replant some saplings
#509 [02:57] <sinedeviance> Halsh: there are hundreds of trees burning
#510 [02:57] <genshou> <.<
#511 [02:57] <sinedeviance> Kealper: it already spread too far, i didn't know it was burning so it has been doing so for about ten minutes
#512 [02:57] <lemon-rev> lol well it will look good for a couple of nights then wont it
#513 [02:57] <KART35|iPod> sinedeviance: mcEdit
#514 [02:57] <sinedeviance> it keeps spreading
#515 [02:57] <Kealper> ouch
#516 [02:57] <Kealper> you might be SOL then :/
#517 [02:57] <sinedeviance> yeah
#518 [02:58] <sinedeviance> i mean...
#519 [02:58] <sinedeviance> fuck it, you guys gotta see this
#520 [02:58] <KART35|iPod> will probably take some time to edit tho
#521 [02:58] <sinedeviance> one sec
#522 [02:58] <Kealper> stupid farm...taking forever to get mah wheat
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#524 [02:58] <KART35|iPod> *giant wall of flake shows up*
#525 [02:59] <Halsh> Is farming worth it? I only bought the game yesterday so still in the induction by fire.
#526 [02:59] <KART35|iPod> *flame*
#527 [02:59] <lemon-rev> wait till you have bunch of trees get flint and woof
#528 [02:59] <KART35|iPod> Halsh: only once youre well establishex
#529 [03:00] <KART35|iPod> established*
#530 [03:00] <Halsh> See, I don't know what "well established" covers. :(
#531 [03:00] <KART35|iPod> well
#532 [03:00] <KART35|iPod> a way to keep mobs off the crops
#533 [03:00] <Halsh> So a fence?
#534 [03:00] <KART35|iPod> a LOT of iorn
#535 [03:01] <lemon-rev> naa just a lot of cobble which you get from mineing
#536 [03:01] <lemon-rev> lol
#537 [03:01] <KART35|iPod> that and a way to prevent them from spawnig inside
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#539 [03:01] <sinedeviance> KART35|iPod: build a fully-contained greenhouse, use glass for the roof so the sun can come in. then, make the 'ground' around the crops cobble or stone
#540 [03:01] <KART35|iPod> a low glass roof works nicely
#541 [03:01] <sinedeviance> anything but grass basically
#542 [03:01] <KART35|iPod> ^
#543 [03:02] <Halsh> Why anything but grass? Does it effect anything?
#544 [03:02] <genshou> Animals spawn on grass with enough light, then they proceed to trample your crops.
#545 [03:02] <sinedeviance> Halsh: yes. mobs can only spawn on grass
#546 [03:02] <sinedeviance> well, above-ground ones anyways
#547 [03:02] <genshou> correction: ANIMALS can only spawn on grass
#548 [03:02] <genshou> Hostile mobs can spawn on almost every block, including cobble
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#550 [03:02] <Kealper> ello
#551 [03:03] * genshou waves to TW
#551 [03:03] * TrueWolves bows to Kealper and genshou
#551 [03:03] <sinedeviance> guys
#552 [03:03] <sinedeviance> http://imgur.com/hE6Pt.jpg
#553 [03:03] <sinedeviance> ^fire
#554 [03:03] <TrueWolves> I'm going to start paying as much attention to this plae as possible so I can help people better.
#555 [03:03] <Halsh> Holy moly o.o
#556 [03:04] <sinedeviance> the trees behind me are also burning
#557 [03:04] <genshou> Halsh, if you're in single player and don't mind always sneaking while inside your farm, a fenced-in 9x9 area of tilled land (or multiple 9x9 tilled regions within the same fence) with a single water source in the middle is most efficient.
#558 [03:04] <lemon-rev> lovely pic
#559 [03:04] <genshou> Personally I prefer a shelf farm inside my base where it's safe
#560 [03:04] <sinedeviance> Halsh: i built undergound tunnels to my greenhouse
#561 [03:04] <lemon-rev> i wanta do this sometime and you did it with out knowing about it :(
#562 [03:04] <sinedeviance> my greenhouse has two blocks inside that are like 5x5, thats the area i farm
#563 [03:04] <sinedeviance> lemon-rev: well, it sucks!
#564 [03:04] <KART35|iPod> yeah...
#565 [03:04] <lemon-rev> yea i supppose
#566 [03:04] <KART35|iPod> good reason to make backups
#567 [03:05] <sinedeviance> i was trying to stop the lava flow and then i turn around and the whole world is burning
#568 [03:05] <lemon-rev> you got any trees that are good ?
#569 [03:05] <KART35|iPod> so yes
#570 [03:05] <sinedeviance> yeah
#571 [03:05] <KART35|iPod> mc edit
#572 [03:05] <sinedeviance> i DO have a backup but it's from a while ago :(
#573 [03:05] <nidefawl> just /ex and done
#574 [03:05] <KART35|iPod> ouch
#575 [03:05] <sinedeviance> nidefawl: /ex ?
#576 [03:05] <genshou> sinedeviance, lolyup, that's what happens when a lava source spawns in the side of the mountain in the middle of a bunch of forest-type biomes :(
#577 [03:05] <lemon-rev> you could you know just take your time and like farm all the wood on that island
#578 [03:05] <sinedeviance> genshou: yepper. same thing.
#579 [03:05] <nidefawl> think its a world-edit command :)
#580 [03:05] <nidefawl> extinguish
#581 [03:06] <sinedeviance> lemon-rev: thats not an island. it's a main piece of land. the trees are burning for many chunks.
#582 [03:06] <sinedeviance> thats on far distance and trees BEYOND THAT are burning
#583 [03:06] <genshou> KART35|iPod, problem with backups is that each world has a stored seed
#584 [03:06] <lemon-rev> what you mean by seed ?
#585 [03:06] <sinedeviance> nidefawl: by world-edit do you mean mcedit?
#586 [03:07] <genshou> lemon-rev, an RNG is just a list of predefined numbers between 0 and 1
#587 [03:07] <nidefawl> no a hmod-plugin for smp
#588 [03:07] <lemon-rev> k
#589 [03:07] <sinedeviance> lemon-rev: a seed is a ... yeah what genshou said. basically it means that even with backups the world will gen the same way
#590 [03:07] <genshou> In order to simulate "randomness" the computer picks a place to start taking numbers within that list, usually via a timer
#591 [03:07] <sinedeviance> nidefawl: this is singleplayer. no hey0
#592 [03:07] <Kealper> seed values ftw
#593 [03:07] <genshou> You can tell an RNG to start from a specific seed (Minecraft does this, as do some Civilization video games)
#594 [03:08] <genshou> Not sure how MC handles the seed though; if it uses that number each time it starts a new block or just starts there each time it loads the world
#595 [03:08] <genshou> s/block/chunk
#596 [03:08] <TrueWolves> This means that same saved number can be used to transer and generate whole worlds if you know how to edit it.
#597 [03:08] <genshou> It does seem to me that the chunks are more or less connected properly regardless of the order I generate them in, though.
#598 [03:09] <TrueWolves> Well, at least the un-edited versions (this won't transfer buildings/mines/ect)
#599 [03:09] <genshou> e.g. if I explore around a region then come in from the other side, I still get the same hillside.
#600 [03:09] * TrueWolves thinks it be awesome that once the game is finished and stable, if a site that stores intresting world-gen-numbers with 1~3 example pictures and discriptions for worlds was set up.
#600 [03:10] <genshou> Not sure if all the details are exactly the same but the terrain looked identical if I could tell :3
#601 [03:10] <sinedeviance> wow. none of the world editors work with beta
#602 [03:10] <genshou> TrueWolves, that would be pretty sweet
#603 [03:10] <sinedeviance> that figures :\
#604 [03:10] <Kealper> i'd totally set that up if i didn't suck at web design
#605 [03:10] <sinedeviance> well, i'm screwed. might as well regen
#606 [03:10] <genshou> You could take the virgin untamed version of some player's world that you really liked ^_^
#607 [03:10] <sinedeviance> hmm... maybe i should setup a minecraft server on a different box to play on. it'd be like singleplayer but i could run hmod
#608 [03:11] <KART35|iPod> there is a good side to it
#609 [03:11] <TrueWolves> I'm great at web design theory (as in have had classes but with acctual HTML and such knowleage being outdated) but I lack money for server space.
#610 [03:11] <KART35|iPod> keeps the mobs away at night
#611 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> Bwah? MCedit worked with minecraft, last I checked
#612 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> er, beta
#613 [03:11] <sinedeviance> KART35|iPod: and also burns down my house and stable (well, the roof anyways) :DF
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#615 [03:11] <sinedeviance> plus i like the forest
#616 [03:12] <sinedeviance> GreyVulpine: it does? really?
#617 [03:12] <Kealper> TrueWolves: make it and i might be able to hook you up with dirt cheap/free hosting :P
#618 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#619 [03:13] <clone1018> Kealper, :<
#620 [03:14] <Kealper> i've got a hosting place to promote, too lol
#621 [03:14] <clone1018> nou
#622 [03:15] * GreyVulpine snickers
#622 [03:16] <Kealper> this documentary series from History called Ancient Aliens is pretty good
#623 [03:17] <TrueWolves> I sort of liked it for what it tought
#624 [03:17] <TrueWolves> but they lay on the "Or was it aliens?!" so thick it got to annoying to watch.
#625 [03:19] <Coll> is a gig ram not enough to run a server in linux?
#626 [03:19] <Solvius> Can someone tell me what server this is, I want to use mIRC to chat
#627 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> esper.net
#628 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> irc.esper.net
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#630 [03:19] <Kealper> yeah, they are biased like holy hell, but it's still pretty sweet to see some of these ancient texts and what they describe
#631 [03:20] <Solvius> thnx
#632 [03:20] <ConMan8> ancient texts?
#633 [03:20] <TrueWolves> It's technicly a network
#634 [03:20] <Kealper> ConMan8: a documentary series called Ancient Aliens
#635 [03:21] <Kealper> watching the 4th one right now, there is like a 10,000 year old text that pretty much describes symptoms and stuff from then that are exactly like nuclear blasts today
#636 [03:23] <Kealper> and there ruins from around india and africa that have parts of sand bricks that have been flash-melted into glass...weird stuff O.o
#637 [03:23] <Solvius> irc.esper.net does not work
#638 [03:23] <Kealper> using port 6667?
#639 [03:23] <Solvius> yup
#640 [03:23] <Kealper> o.o
#641 [03:23] <Kealper> we're all talking on it right now....lol
#642 [03:23] <Solvius> firewall is set good
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#644 [03:24] <Solvius> well mIRC cant log in :D
#645 [03:24] <Ken> works fine in xchat
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#647 [03:25] <Solvius> is it just irc.esper.net or do I need to type something else, like http ?
#648 [03:25] <TrueWolves> Nope
#649 [03:25] <TrueWolves> just irc.esper.net for mIRC
#650 [03:25] <Solvius> strange things happen then, And I blame the dwarfs
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#652 [03:29] <Solvius> yessss, look I am here twice
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#654 [03:29] <Kealper> lol
#655 [03:29] <genshou> [01:20:34] <Kealper> and there ruins from around india and africa that have parts of sand bricks that have been flash-melted into glass...weird stuff O.o <--- that's easily explained
#656 [03:29] <Kealper> yea yea lightning
#657 [03:29] <clone1018> Time travel
#658 [03:29] <genshou> No, even better
#659 [03:29] <Kealper> .....
#660 [03:29] <Kealper> lol
#661 [03:29] <Solvius> hihihi
#662 [03:30] <genshou> large meteors that don't break up until just above the Earth's surface often explode with the force of a WMD
#663 [03:30] <clone1018> yoyoyo
#664 [03:30] <genshou> These things have levelled whole sections of forest or turned entire sections of deserts into glass
#665 [03:30] <Kealper> that'd leave like a huge crater though
#666 [03:30] <genshou> Nah, they explode in midair
#667 [03:30] <Kealper> oh, i see what you mean
#668 [03:31] <genshou> the heat will take out anything flammable of course
#669 [03:31] <Kealper> it's cooler to think that aliens did it though...stop being a buzzkill :P
#670 [03:31] <genshou> lol :P
#671 [03:31] <genshou> kay.
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#673 [03:36] * Kealper goes afk now
#673 [03:36] <Kealper> g'night #minecrafthelp
#674 [03:36] <lemon-rev> night kealper
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#676 [03:39] <TrueWolves> Night
#677 [03:42] <sinedeviance> GreyVulpine: mcedit worked, thanks
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#680 [03:59] <CornstarchPudding> I AM CORNSTARCH PUDDING
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#682 [04:03] <Xaviergmail> hey uhh i jst realised that i failed at entering my email
#683 [04:03] <Xaviergmail> @hotmai.com instead of hotmail
#684 [04:03] <Xaviergmail> hwo can i change it?
#685 [04:04] <lemon-rev> at what,
#686 [04:04] <lemon-rev> what your trying to change
#687 [04:05] <lemon-rev> something in the web
#688 [04:05] <lemon-rev> or what
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#690 [04:10] <Solvius> can I make a welcome message in the splash screen for the beta server ?
#691 [04:14] <lemon-rev> dont know
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#693 [04:15] <Xaviergmail> on minecraft.net
#694 [04:15] <Xaviergmail> i screwed up my email
#695 [04:15] <Tastee> Sup kids
#696 [04:16] <Solvius> I have soup, yes thank you
#697 [04:16] <Tastee> However, you do not have brown mushroom soup.
#698 [04:16] <Tastee> Too bad.
#699 [04:16] <Solvius> nope, its pee soup
#700 [04:16] <Tastee> Mushroom > Pee
#701 [04:17] <Tastee> Obviously.
#702 [04:17] <Tastee> Makes me wonder, how would mushroom pee soup taste like.
#703 [04:18] <Solvius> ehm, like pee and mushroom ?
#704 [04:18] <Tastee> Or mushroom and pee
#705 [04:18] <Solvius> not in that orther even though
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#707 [04:18] <Solvius> can be mushroom and pee to
#708 [04:18] <Solvius> you was fater then me :)
#709 [04:18] <Tastee> Indeed
#710 [04:19] <TrueWolves> I perfer pea soup.
#711 [04:19] <Halsh> :( 2nd night in a row of no torches.. I feel so alone D;
#712 [04:19] <TrueWolves> Though pea and mushroom soup sounds good.
#713 [04:19] <Tastee> Know what? I'll try it.
#714 [04:19] <Solvius> pea? I do pee in the soup.... hmmm somehow it sound crazy
#715 [04:20] <TrueWolves> http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af184/Drake-Higgins/Personal%20Photos/DSCN0033.jpg Fat cat is fat (28 pounds)
#716 [04:20] <Tastee> That's one fat cat.
#717 [04:21] <TrueWolves> Well to be fair, he's not just fat, but quite large in general.
#718 [04:21] <Solvius> 28 pounds brrrr
#719 [04:21] <TrueWolves> he sometimes lays down on my lap while I'm on the computer, he tends to take up an arm too though so I'm usualy forced to type with 1 hand then but he's fun to hug.
#720 [04:22] <Solvius> well its a big pussy :)
#721 [04:22] <TrueWolves> yep
#722 [04:23] <Solvius> ok, I go and look for some explanation about rpg servers, sounds like fun
#723 [04:24] <Tastee> Btw, I keep getting this "connection reset" error when connected to orcworm.co.uk (smp)
#724 [04:24] <TrueWolves> They can be when the admin's are good, as any server.
#725 [04:25] <Tastee> Any ideas on how to survive the reseting of the connection ?
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#728 [04:36] <Solvius> well, it needs modding, and I am no way a programmer
#729 [04:38] <TrueWolves> I had an idea for my own RPG server, however...
#730 [04:38] <Solvius> cant find any tutorials on how to do it anyway :)
#731 [04:38] <TrueWolves> I am also not a programer...
#732 [04:38] <TrueWolves> A novice at best.
#733 [04:38] <Solvius> I use a bit of gamemaker, but thats not realy programming :)
#734 [04:38] <TrueWolves> It helps teach programing logic at least
#735 [04:39] <genshou> What TW said goes double for me, and also I would have to pay someone else to host it :C
#736 [04:39] <Solvius> when I use the blocks, that is, drag and point :)
#737 [04:39] <TrueWolves> A few awesome games have been made on it, example: Iji.
#738 [04:39] <genshou> Iji, nomnom
#739 [04:39] <Tastee> I know pascal, can't do much with that tho.
#740 [04:39] * genshou highfives TrueWolves
#740 [04:40] <Solvius> its not very interesting without any kind of leveling, sounds like fun to see someone walking with a level 200 :)
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#743 [04:45] <mib_kl108d> Is there a way to detonate TNT in minecraft classic?
#744 [04:45] <lemon-rev> whats dimentions of portal to neather from obsidean
#745 [04:45] <lemon-rev> i mean what are the dimentions of the portal
#746 [04:48] <clone1018> Should I get out of here too Super_Meat_Boy?
#747 [04:48] <Super_Meat_Boy> no
#748 [04:48] <TrueWolves> To be fair...
#749 [04:48] <TrueWolves> You said you'd rather be kicked there.
#750 [04:49] <clone1018> I know
#751 [04:49] <clone1018> I didnt complain
#752 [04:49] <clone1018> But I'm in his presence here too
#753 [04:49] <clone1018> I didnt know if it bothered him or not
#754 [04:49] * TrueWolves sighs...
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#755 [04:49] <TrueWolves> clone, can I please offer one peice of advice?
#756 [04:49] <clone1018> Sure why not
#757 [04:50] <TrueWolves> Alright, one momment please.
#758 [04:53] <Halsh> ...
#759 [04:53] <clone1018> I accidentally :( http://imagebacon.com/live.php
#760 [04:56] <TrueWolves> People do not have 2 dimentional personalities, and almost all forms of trying to stick personalities down in to a set of defined characistics will never work with out a significent degree of statistical failure. I've noticed that you tend to look at everyone and only expect them capable of one to three things at most, as if they have a character that is incredibly flat compaired to your
#761 [04:56] <TrueWolves> own. SMB here kicked you becuase you were being immature in a place where that kind of behiavor is annoying others. Becuase everyone means something rather then just yourself, and thus has their own thoughts and such, they are just as important as you. No more or less. Just becuase someone is doing their job does not mean they instantly hate you becuase you happen to be put in a posistion
#762 [04:56] <TrueWolves> that is against their own. You can mentaly 'grow up' just the same as I've seen a 10 year old on IRC talk in complete scentinces with spelling better then my own, and people can be asses at the age of 30 and still be online. There are going to be people of all kinds on the internet and the things you need to do is learn how to cope with everyone rather then asuming everything is happening
#763 [04:56] <TrueWolves> to you and everyone is going to acts either for or against you. I for example simply try to keep peace when possible but yet have all my own flaws and traits, just becuase I supported you in the past does not make my support the sudden one charactistic you should remember me for. Learn to cope and understand people and I'm sure you'll get along with a lot more, or at least have a lot
#764 [04:56] <TrueWolves> less issues with the ones you are forced to deal with becuase they happen to be in the same time and space you are at the time. If you don't think I'm right at all here, then understand this is the impression I'm getting, and if you really don't want that then instead take the advice to try to understand why people see what they do in you and either change that or except the fact and
#765 [04:56] <TrueWolves> stop making everything an attack becuase you don't understand or like it or assume someone is making an attack on you rather then just preaching their own free speach like everyone else here does.
#766 [04:57] <Solvius> I am supposed to read that ?
#767 [04:57] <clone1018> No
#768 [04:57] <clone1018> Its for me
#769 [04:57] <Solvius> ok :)
#770 [04:58] <TrueWolves> A flaw of mine is I try to help everyone, I fail, a lot. -.o
#771 [04:58] <Solvius> afk, eating
#772 [04:58] <clone1018> You're right
#773 [04:58] <clone1018> Completely right
#774 [04:58] <clone1018> But frankly
#775 [04:58] <clone1018> This wont change me
#776 [04:58] <clone1018> It wont change how I do what I do
#777 [04:58] <TrueWolves> Note how I said you don't need to nessarly change.
#778 [04:58] <clone1018> So just take out the trash
#779 [04:58] <clone1018> Do what you need to do
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#781 [05:00] <Super_Meat_Boy> ok
#782 [05:00] <Super_Meat_Boy> /kickban clone1018 IMMA FIRIN MAH LAZOR
#783 [05:00] <TrueWolves> err what?
#784 [05:00] <TrueWolves> He hasn't done anything wrong here really.
#785 [05:00] <clone1018> I have before
#786 [05:00] <Super_Meat_Boy> :3
#787 [05:00] <clone1018> I completely deserve a ban
#788 [05:00] <clone1018> I advertise ALL the time
#789 [05:01] <clone1018> I'm rude. I troll
#790 [05:01] <TrueWolves> Have you done anything at the momment?
#791 [05:01] <clone1018> Sure
#792 [05:01] <clone1018> One second
#793 [05:01] <TrueWolves> Am I going to be so petty as to actualy use past events to dictate my present mood an actions?
#794 [05:01] <clone1018> No spamming, insulting, or trolling.
#795 [05:01] <clone1018> I insulted him
#796 [05:02] <clone1018> Do not excessively swear.
#797 [05:02] <TrueWolves> Oh wow, people insult others all the time minorly, you need to see beyond the surface of people and things.
#798 [05:02] <clone1018> I said several cuss words
#799 [05:02] <TrueWolves> Those rules are guidelines, so we have a basis to remove those who are causing issues and others know what to avoid.
#800 [05:02] <TrueWolves> They are meant to be avoided, they are not stone walls of doom.
#801 [05:02] <TrueWolves> Speedbumps, they are meant to check you when you go to fast on a slow road, not kill you or give you a ticket for said speed.
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#803 [05:03] <TrueWolves> People tend to be complex with many motives for many things, many other things often have a spirit to their words on the reasons they are founded.
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#805 [05:04] <TrueWolves> One can wish to be smarter then everyone else in the world when they are asking for intelegince them selves, but said wish could be granted in that they become smarter, everyone else stupid, becuase the spirit of the words are ignored in favor of a literal inturpertation.
#806 [05:05] <TrueWolves> Stories of Genies are an awesome example of what goes wrong when one ignores the spirit of things instead taking things for their face value alone, usualy they did it on purpose though as punishments for greed or otherwise.
#807 [05:08] <TrueWolves> Now, what is it that you want Clone?
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#810 [05:37] <Tastee> TrueWolves truely deserves to be a jedi.
#811 [05:37] <Tastee> A jedi truely he deserves to be. said master yoda
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#817 [06:08] <lemon-rev> ok in the neather world how do i get water to run on cobble stone since it keeps evaporating everytime i try and dump water somewhere ?
#818 [06:15] <lemon-rev> dirt and water ?
#819 [06:19] <dragontech90> hey
#820 [06:20] <dragontech90> how u find a greafer
#821 [06:20] <dragontech90> GrayVupine
#822 [06:21] <dragontech90> or any one who knows how to catch a greafer
#823 [06:21] <TrueWolves> Well, it's sort of a case-per-case thing, you got to know who's on the server and where, as well as where the damage is
#824 [06:22] <TrueWolves> Figure out who could be the greifer, and narrow it down to a few people... watching them carefully with out them knowing your watching them.
#825 [06:22] <TrueWolves> catch them in the act.
#826 [06:23] <dragontech90> well i know the room with the problem
#827 [06:23] <dragontech90> http://minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=897542f9473b166759d73b5600b8d1b8
#828 [06:23] <TrueWolves> ahh a creative server...
#829 [06:23] <TrueWolves> Tis been a while.
#830 [06:24] <TrueWolves> I'll log in, a year ago I used to be good at greifer catching.
#831 [06:24] <TrueWolves> What are the rules of the server?
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#834 [06:30] <clone1018> I wanna play so bad :(
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#848 [07:42] <Tastee> waweee
#849 [07:43] <Tastee> who is the crazy dog ?
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#853 [07:58] <dragontech90> ok im pist
#854 [07:58] <dragontech90> >..
#855 [07:58] <dragontech90> u go to help and they ban u >.> wth
#856 [07:59] <dragontech90> remove lava blocks and bamm kicked
#857 [07:59] <dragontech90> and its random lava on road and all over by a greefer
#858 [08:01] <mbentley> where did you get banned from? #help?
#859 [08:02] <mbentley> or you mean you got banned on a server?
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#861 [08:05] <Halsh> Is it normal to have 2 64 stacks of Redstone and basically no iron? :s
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#864 [08:06] <mbentley> if you don't carry iron sure :D
#865 [08:06] <Halsh> No I mean ores I've found :s
#866 [08:06] <Halsh> I've found more redstone than iron.. maybe I just missed it all :(
#867 [08:06] <Fralle> Heyhey, some prob here. After some minutes of playing MP i get a a black screen and minecraft dies. Any solutions?
#868 [08:07] <mbentley> it's odd but it happens
#869 [08:07] <mbentley> Fralle: i get that too
#870 [08:07] <mbentley> same with others on my server. i think that it was a bug introduced with the latest update
#871 [08:08] <Fralle> godverdomme :\
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#885 [09:26] <claudis> hi ppl
#886 [09:26] <claudis> can somebody help me.
#887 [09:27] <claudis> i can login to my server using the local ip address but my friend can't login to my server! he keeps getting told the server has timed out. i've opened the default port but it won't work :(
#888 [09:28] <barrycarlyon> Whats the ip?
#889 [09:28] <GLaDOS> did you enter the right internal IP?
#890 [09:29] <claudis> my ip is 192.168.0.100
#891 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> And your external IP?
#892 [09:30] <claudis> my external ip is 92.237.205.105. i don't have alot of upload bandwidth so just wanted to create an area for a couple of friends
#893 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> And you've port forwarded correctly?
#894 [09:30] <claudis> port 25565 is open
#895 [09:31] <barrycarlyon> !check 92.237.205.105
#896 [09:32] <barrycarlyon> What os is your server on. If its windows did you allow it thru windows firewall?
#897 [09:32] <claudis> wait i just tried a site and it says that port is closed still.
#898 [09:32] <claudis> must be my isp.
#899 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Check your router's status page. make sure it says your WAN ip matches up with your external
#900 [09:32] <claudis> the router is configured
#901 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> I don't think it is
#902 [09:32] <claudis> do i have to edit the server document with the ip?
#903 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> No
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#905 [09:35] <barrycarlyon> In other news I just signed up to the forum. And was shocked to find it has no user activated. not even email!
#906 [09:36] <barrycarlyon> And what is the monster key for in server.properties the wiki doesn't have an example.
#907 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> monster key?
#908 [09:36] <barrycarlyon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties#spawn-monsters
#909 [09:36] <mbentley> spawn-monsters=true
#910 [09:36] <barrycarlyon> "Alongside spawn-monsters there is a monsters key."
#911 [09:37] <barrycarlyon> mbentley: you just insulted my intelligence.... :-D
#912 [09:37] <mbentley> no clue what that means
#913 [09:37] <barrycarlyon> Thats waht I thought.
#914 [09:37] <Super_Meat_Boy> its false
#915 [09:37] <Super_Meat_Boy> oh, wait
#916 [09:37] <Super_Meat_Boy> its monsters = false/true
#917 [09:37] <barrycarlyon> What doth the key do?
#918 [09:38] <Super_Meat_Boy> that means that dungeons can/cant spawn monsters
#919 [09:38] <Super_Meat_Boy> its the master one
#920 [09:38] <barrycarlyon> ah.
#921 [09:38] <Super_Meat_Boy> disable it, you disable spawn-monsters
#922 [09:38] <barrycarlyon> spawn-monsters=true monsters=false means monsters but not dungeons?
#923 [09:41] <Solvius> annyone knows a company to host a beta server ?
#924 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> There's tons.
#925 [09:41] <Solvius> you know a good one ?
#926 [09:42] * GreyVulpine shakes
#926 [09:42] <barrycarlyon> Solvius: GOOGLE!
#927 [09:42] <Solvius> How do I search for that, my english is not that good
#928 [09:43] <barrycarlyon> Solvius: not sure what the channel rules are. But I dislike advertising stuff in help channels.
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#930 [09:43] <Solvius> send me an PM :)
#931 [09:44] <barrycarlyon> I do not wish to thanks.
#932 [09:44] <Solvius> ok
#933 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, lists..
#934 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=44902
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#937 [09:47] <Solvius> thnx GreyVulpine
#938 [09:48] <barrycarlyon> Add that to AuBot :-D
#939 [09:48] <Solvius> I am looking at some in Holland but they are expensive as far as I can see
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#942 [09:56] <Durock> when i start minecraft i get "pixel format not accelerted"" error message. i have updtaed my graphics card drivers and still get the same message
#943 [09:58] <mbentley> Durock: what video card do you have?
#944 [09:58] <Durock> ati radeon 2100 (built in)
#945 [09:59] <mbentley> did you get the updated drivers from the amd website or the manufacturer's site?
#946 [10:00] <mbentley> (manufacturer of the system/motherboard)
#947 [10:02] <Durock> i got the driver update from amd wesite, i'm getting mother board updates now, but there wasn't any graphics card updates from motherboard company's website
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#949 [10:02] <mbentley> hmm, from amd would give you the most recent, for sure
#950 [10:03] <claudis> damn this thing. I've bypassed my router and setup port forward via windows firewall advanced settings. but the portforward site still won't allow traffic. via 25565
#951 [10:04] <claudis> sorry i mean. it still can't get through on that port
#952 [10:04] <claudis> QQ
#953 [10:05] <Halsh> .. Am I doing somethng wrong or what? I've got like 20 iron and nearly 200 Redstone.. >.>
#954 [10:05] <Durock> i think ther may be no windows 7 support for openGL with ati radeon 2100 but i'm not sure and would like an answer from someone who knows
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#957 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> Durock - Where did you update your drivers from?
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#959 [10:07] <Durock> i updtated it from amd website
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#961 [10:07] <Mihai_21> hello
#962 [10:07] <Mihai_21> interested in something beautiful and special? http://relaxare-profunda.blogspot.com/
#963 [10:07] <barrycarlyon> Nope.
#964 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> Durock - what kind of machine do you have, laptop or desktop
#965 [10:08] <Durock> desktop
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#967 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com your dxdiag?
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#969 [10:09] <Durock> amd gigabyte motherboard with built in graphics card (ati radeon 2100)
#970 [10:09] <Durock> i could try...
#971 [10:10] <claudis> Success!!!!!!
#972 [10:11] <Durock> i've run dxdiag, now send to you how?
#973 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> www.pastebin.com
#974 [10:12] <Durock> paste a screenshot?
#975 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> No
#976 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> You paste the text at pastebin.com
#977 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> and give us the link here
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#979 [10:16] <Durock> sry greyvulpine. http://pastebin.com/Z7TT7xbw
#980 [10:16] <Durock> i think thats it
#981 [10:17] <mbentley> hmm, wouldn't ATI Radeon 2100 (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM) be the microsoft drivers?
#982 [10:18] <Durock> so DL drivers from microsoft site?
#983 [10:19] <mbentley> meaning that it is using the drivers from the windows update site
#984 [10:19] <Kealper> http://ati.com
#985 [10:20] <Diablothein> damn telemarketers... :|
#986 [10:21] <Solvius> yeah string them up :)
#987 [10:22] <Diablothein> Nope, lawsuit.
#988 [10:22] <Diablothein> We're on the national do not call registry...
#989 [10:22] <Diablothein> They called...
#990 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#991 [10:22] <Diablothein> chaching!
#992 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> Durock - Try the drivers from your gigabyte mobo?
#993 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3268#dl
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#995 [10:23] <Durock> ati.com... it's amd where i updated driver first time
#996 [10:23] <mbentley> ati = amd
#997 [10:25] <Durock> so is it possible to play mine craft on my current garphics card?
#998 [10:25] <mbentley> yes, it should be
#999 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it should
#1000 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> Durock - Did you get the link I sent above?
#1001 [10:26] <mbentley> are you certain that the new drivers you downloaded from amd.com actually were successfully instaled?
#1002 [10:26] <mbentley> *installed
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#1004 [10:27] <Durock> there is no drivers from giga for onboard graphics, just chipset, soundcard and raid driver updates
#1005 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Chipset/VGA
#1006 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> VGA = graphics
#1007 [10:28] <Durock> kk 15 mins still , damn capped net
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#1009 [10:33] <mbentley> and Durock, just to verify, you are downloading these? >> http://tinyurl.com/26av98d
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#1011 [10:37] <Durock> um net being slow. highest version of catalyst for ati radeon 2100 is v9.3 or 9.5... which i got before i went to motherboard site
#1012 [10:38] <Durock> i uninstaled 10.2 installed 9.3 but couldn't get catalyst to run
#1013 [10:41] <mbentley> the ones i linked you to should be the ones that will work
#1014 [10:42] <mbentley> 10.2 release date 2/24/2010
#1015 [10:42] <Durock> yeah still got .zip on desktop
#1016 [10:43] <Durock> well not a .zip but its there
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#1021 [10:57] <Durock> ok so i updated motherboard chipset and still get same error message
#1022 [10:58] <mbentley> still think the best bet would be getting the 10.2 legacy drivers from amd to work
#1023 [10:58] <claudis> how do i give somebody bricks as an op?
#1024 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> /give name id num
#1025 [10:59] <claudis> do you know of a good place that has all the resource id?
#1026 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#1027 [10:59] <mbentley> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_Values
#1028 [10:59] <mbentley> oh you win
#1029 [10:59] <mbentley> :)
#1030 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> :P
#1031 [10:59] <claudis> i <3 you
#1032 [10:59] <mbentley> i <3 the wiki
#1033 [10:59] <claudis> both
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#1037 [11:05] <Durock> mbentlry i've run the 10.2 legacy drivers install. it saysit installed fine. when i go into device manager my display driver is version 8.56.1.15 shouldn't it be v10.2?
#1038 [11:05] <Diablothein> WUTLOLSKI, This is either some weird generation, or... I have a leaky tower. Alright, growing trees around the lighthouse base, cover up some of my crappy engineering, I found leaves inside the tower.
#1039 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> "But! We (especially Jens) have added a bunch of new content to Minecraft that we want to get out asap, so there will be a content patch update next week with a whole pile of fun new toys, including a water mob and quite possibly paint if we can figure out how exactly it should work."
#1040 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> Yay, water mob!
#1041 [11:06] <mbentley> i don't think they have the same version numbers
#1042 [11:06] <mbentley> 10.2 is the catalyst control center version
#1043 [11:06] <Durock> how do i open the control centre?
#1044 [11:07] <mbentley> should be able to right click on the desktop and i think it is a context menu option
#1045 [11:07] <mbentley> or there should be a systray icon
#1046 [11:07] <mbentley> been a while since i have messed with ati drivers
#1047 [11:08] <Diablothein> This normal? http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6874/20110103110631.png http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4809/20110103110811.png
#1048 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not normal.
#1049 [11:09] <Diablothein> uhuh... o.o
#1050 [11:09] <mbentley> lol interesting
#1051 [11:09] <Diablothein> 1 moment, uploading screenshot from outside
#1052 [11:09] <Diablothein> http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/452/20110103110918.png
#1053 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> Neat.
#1054 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> Haven't seen it do that before.
#1055 [11:10] <Diablothein> There's two trees behind it, though, that's why it has grown so large.
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#1058 [11:19] <Diablothein> Woo! Ring 3 done!
#1059 [11:19] <Diablothein> Ring 4 is now growing.
#1060 [11:19] <feenyx> what are you making?
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#1062 [11:22] <Diablothein> Tree.
#1063 [11:22] <Diablothein> ring 4 is 24 saplings.
#1064 [11:24] <Diablothein> feenyx, you see the odd tree growth I posted?
#1065 [11:29] <feenyx> ah
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#1069 [11:35] <Durock> so i've updated the drivers and still get bad video card driver error
#1070 [11:39] <mbentley> is it a different error than what you put in pastebin before?
#1071 [11:41] <Durock> i only put dxdiag in pastebin
#1072 [11:41] <mbentley> so what is the full error you get when you try to run minecraft then?
#1073 [11:42] <Durock> http://pastebin.com/qqknhbdn
#1074 [11:42] <Durock> thats full error
#1075 [11:45] <mbentley> hmm...
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#1077 [11:47] <mib_365fj3> Hello how to open lastlogin file in linux?
#1078 [11:47] <Durock> hmm... is it something apart from drivers?
#1079 [11:48] <mib_365fj3> umm
#1080 [11:48] <mib_365fj3> no
#1081 [11:48] <mbentley> not sure...
#1082 [11:48] <mib_365fj3> In minecraft dir is lastlogin file
#1083 [11:48] <Durock> sry mib different conversation
#1084 [11:48] <mib_365fj3> there is my pass
#1085 [11:48] <lukegb> Try cat
#1086 [11:48] <mib_365fj3> i forgot it
#1087 [11:48] <mib_365fj3> O_o
#1088 [11:48] <mib_365fj3> sec
#1089 [11:49] <mbentley> mib_365fj3: http://minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#1090 [11:49] <mib_365fj3> Noooo i dont need this :)
#1091 [11:49] <mbentley> it is encrypted in there i believe
#1092 [11:49] <mib_365fj3> YES! How to decript it?
#1093 [11:50] <mbentley> that would defeat the purpose of it being encrypted. why not just go to the forgot password page???
#1094 [11:50] <mbentley> Durock: there is one thing you might want to check...
#1095 [11:50] <mbentley> one sec
#1096 [11:50] <Kealper> because he probably got someone's game files and wants to hack in to it to get their account
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#1098 [11:50] <mib_365fj3> WHAT?
#1099 [11:50] <Durock> i'm keen for any ideas you got
#1100 [11:50] <mib_365fj3> no
#1101 [11:51] <mib_365fj3> DAMN IT THANKS KEALPER
#1102 [11:51] <mbentley> Durock: right click on the desktop > screen resolution
#1103 [11:51] <xmasta> hi, i was just wondering, bought 2 gift codes, told me the price is 29.90 eur but in bank they took 30.20, small difference but still dont like it :/
#1104 [11:51] <Durock> the game looks like lotsa fun can't wait to play :P
#1105 [11:51] <mbentley> click advanced settings
#1106 [11:51] <Kealper> mib_365fj3: i love you too
#1107 [11:51] <mbentley> troubleshoot tab, click change settings
#1108 [11:52] <mbentley> make sure 'hardware acceleration' is set to full
#1109 [11:52] <Kealper> alright i'm afk for a few hours
#1110 [11:52] <mbentley> lol i was being nice and giving the guy the benefit of the doubt
#1111 [11:52] <Durock> kk one sec
#1112 [11:54] <Durock> hmm can't change setting in troubleshoot tab
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#1114 [11:54] <mbentley> what do you see on the troubleshoot tab?
#1115 [11:54] <mbentley> sorry, don't have win7 in front of me
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#1117 [11:55] <Durock> "IF your current display driver allows you to change settings, click this button....."
#1118 [11:56] <mbentley> and the button is greyed out?
#1119 [11:56] <Durock> and one greyed out button below :(
#1120 [11:56] <mbentley> hmm... might want to check device manager to see what it reports about your video card to make sure there aren't any issues
#1121 [11:57] <mbentley> start > type in 'device manager', look under 'display adapters' and see if there are any icons with '!' in them
#1122 [11:59] <Durock> no ! marks to be seen
#1123 [11:59] <mbentley> hmm
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#1125 [12:01] <Solvius> what can i do with a pumpkin ?
#1126 [12:03] <mbentley> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pumpkin
#1127 [12:05] <Solvius> I found it, i can put in on my head :)
#1128 [12:05] <Solvius> in = it :)
#1129 [12:08] <mbentley> Durock: i'm at a loss for ideas at the moment. it could be that for some reason that video chipset doesn't support opengl
#1130 [12:09] <Durock> hmm is it worth posting a tread on forums/
#1131 [12:10] <Durock> ty for your help also
#1132 [12:10] <mbentley> there are a number on the forums about the same thing...
#1133 [12:10] <mbentley> http://tinyurl.com/27sl35d
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#1142 [12:27] <sotm> Hey guys, I bought alpha back in about october or something, however I don't knw how to update to beta
#1143 [12:27] <sotm> I heard it was automatic, however mine never happened
#1144 [12:28] <bildramer> try redownloading the client
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#1146 [12:30] <sotm> I just did as you suggested, bt don't have beta features
#1147 [12:30] <sotm> like tree decay
#1148 [12:30] <sotm> However the title screen said "finally beta"
#1149 [12:30] <Matttttthew> Check your settings?
#1150 [12:31] <sotm> Whereat?
#1151 [12:31] <Matttttthew> Press ESC when in-game?
#1152 [12:31] * Matttttthew shrugs " I haven't played since Beta started "
#1152 [12:33] <sotm> The only thing in there is changing visual options and the controls
#1153 [12:33] <sotm> :/
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#1155 [12:34] <thereddeh> lo
#1156 [12:35] <sotm> Lovely, and now the thing won't load in browser either
#1157 [12:35] <thereddeh> i built a huge glass dome in the middle of a desert with the intention of bringing grass and trees n plants etc there... i built a trail of dirt from a grass spot bit it doesnt spread farther than 3 blocks
#1158 [12:35] <sotm> When I tried through there
#1159 [12:36] <thereddeh> Kealper help meh :(
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#1162 [12:53] <genshou> thereddeh, it takes dirt a REALLY long time to turn into grass along such a chain
#1163 [12:53] <genshou> like, a block or two per day slow.
#1164 [12:53] <thereddeh> awww :(
#1165 [12:54] <genshou> I recommend getting all your seeds elsewhere.
#1166 [12:54] <thereddeh> what if i double or triple the trail
#1167 [12:54] <genshou> nope, still just as slow.
#1168 [12:54] <thereddeh> i got seeds, i just want the grass ;p
#1169 [12:54] <Matttttthew> xD
#1170 [12:54] <Xerati> genshou :S
#1171 [12:54] <Xerati> :D
#1172 [12:54] <Xerati> and yeah, get your seeds from valley/mountain area
#1173 [12:54] <genshou> oh, okay. Well, give it some time then :<
#1174 [12:54] <Xerati> ahh
#1175 [12:54] <thereddeh> :(
#1176 [12:54] <thereddeh> ok
#1177 [12:54] <Xerati> yeah, that'll take forever
#1178 [12:54] <Xerati> :P
#1179 [12:54] <Xerati> bbiab
#1180 [12:54] <Matttttthew> Go build something massive to pass the time =P
#1181 [12:55] <genshou> Either that or use *cough*mods*cough* to add a crafting recipe to create grass blocks or invedit to just get them <.<
#1182 [12:55] <thereddeh> i dont infedit ;p
#1183 [12:55] * genshou working on the slow and patient method himself to move grass about two chunks... so far it's been a few hours :<
#1183 [12:55] <thereddeh> my 41 diameter glass dome is all legit ;p
#1184 [12:56] <thereddeh> man.. the entire surface has to become grass too o_O
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#1186 [12:56] <thereddeh> now thats going to take months
#1187 [12:58] <Matttttthew> xD
#1188 [12:58] <Matttttthew> It won't
#1189 [12:59] <Matttttthew> Once it gets there and starts spreading, more blocks will cover more blocks
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#1191 [12:59] <Matttttthew> If you only have a three-wide path it'll only be from two or three blocks
#1192 [12:59] <Matttttthew> Thus, spread incredibly slow
#1193 [12:59] <genshou> It'll spread slowly in any given direction
#1194 [12:59] <Matttttthew> Yes
#1195 [12:59] <Matttttthew> But if it's a wide area
#1196 [12:59] <thereddeh> even left?
#1197 [12:59] <Matttttthew> More blocks will spread
#1198 [13:00] <genshou> But since it'll be spreading in two directions once it hits the floor of the dome, it'll fill the surface area quicker than it would fill a long tunnel
#1199 [13:00] <genshou> I think that's what Matttttthew is getting at
#1200 [13:00] * Matttttthew has done much experimentation with Grass
#1200 [13:00] <genshou> Well, three directions that is
#1201 [13:00] <Matttttthew> Yes
#1202 [13:00] <genshou> I meant two axes ;)
#1203 [13:00] <Matttttthew> xD
#1204 [13:00] <genshou> (plural of axis, not axe)
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#1206 [13:00] <Matttttthew> I'd suggest building a nice underwater subway netwrok to pass the time
#1207 [13:00] <thereddeh> woo 4 blocks now
#1208 [13:00] <Matttttthew> =P
#1209 [13:01] <Matttttthew> 'Tis what I've been working on
#1210 [13:01] <genshou> Underwater subway?
#1211 [13:01] <Matttttthew> Yup
#1212 [13:01] <genshou> As in, boat subway?
#1213 [13:01] <Matttttthew> Nono
#1214 [13:01] <Matttttthew> Minecart
#1215 [13:01] <Matttttthew> For it goes on land aswel
#1216 [13:01] <genshou> Ah.
#1217 [13:01] <genshou> Is it automated?
#1218 [13:01] <Matttttthew> It will be, when it's substantial
#1219 [13:01] <genshou> :D
#1220 [13:01] <Matttttthew> At the moment It's mostly expiremental
#1221 [13:01] <thereddeh> sounds awesome
#1222 [13:02] <Matttttthew> experimental*
#1223 [13:02] <genshou> What method you gonna use for the holding area?
#1224 [13:02] <Matttttthew> Not certain yet
#1225 [13:02] <Matttttthew> I haven't had much chance to fool with automation of minecarts
#1226 [13:02] <genshou> I've used the water trough as a holding area before, but I've heard good things about pez dispensers :3
#1227 [13:02] <thereddeh> but the other side of the water belongs to a friend of mine so he can do half ;p
#1228 [13:02] <genshou> lol, you know what's really un-fun?
#1229 [13:03] <thereddeh> light his house on fire?
#1230 [13:03] <genshou> Getting grass into a bedrock-level home, or into a sky palace
#1231 [13:03] <thereddeh> lol
#1232 [13:03] <Matttttthew> xD
#1233 [13:03] <thereddeh> its on a server so it should grow when im not logged in right?
#1234 [13:03] <genshou> thereddeh, only when the chunks are loaded
#1235 [13:03] <Xerati> back
#1236 [13:04] <genshou> so you have to idle within about 144 blocks of it
#1237 [13:04] <thereddeh> hmm
#1238 [13:04] <Xerati> thereddeh, if you log out in the area, it seems to grow
#1239 [13:04] <thereddeh> ah
#1240 [13:04] <thereddeh> :)
#1241 [13:04] <genshou> Xerati, never worked for me with wheat in your server ;)
#1242 [13:04] <Matttttthew> Hehe
#1243 [13:04] <genshou> I had to actually be there for it to grow
#1244 [13:04] <thereddeh> it did grow, xerati stole it
#1245 [13:04] <Xerati> if no one else is on*
#1246 [13:05] <Matttttthew> XD
#1247 [13:05] <Xerati> i.e.
#1248 [13:05] <genshou> Ah.
#1249 [13:05] <Xerati> you're the last one on
#1250 [13:05] <Xerati> you log out in your field
#1251 [13:05] <Xerati> come back in, it's all grown
#1252 [13:05] <Xerati> that's my personal experience though
#1253 [13:05] <genshou> Well unless you were always idling...
#1254 [13:05] <Xerati> if someone else is in waaaaaay far away *cough*
#1255 [13:05] <Xerati> yeah sorry :X
#1256 [13:05] <genshou> xD
#1257 [13:05] <Xerati> dude
#1258 [13:05] <Xerati> you should see the new map
#1259 [13:05] <genshou> it's okay. If I really needed more crops I'd build a huge farm :D
#1260 [13:05] <Xerati> i built an interesting minecart going down
#1261 [13:05] <Xerati> lol
#1262 [13:05] <Xerati> yeah
#1263 [13:06] <Xerati> that spiral thing you showed pwns
#1264 [13:06] <genshou> Spiral thing? owo
#1265 [13:06] <Xerati> and yes you can expand it in any direction
#1266 [13:06] <genshou> Which spiral thing? ._.
#1267 [13:06] <Xerati> it either has to be 7 wide, 13 wide, or a multiple of something
#1268 [13:06] <Xerati> wheat farm?
#1269 [13:07] <Xerati> that was yours wasn't it? >_>
#1270 [13:07] <Xerati> <_<
#1271 [13:07] <Xerati> Hans Lemurman's Spiral Wheat Farm
#1272 [13:08] <genshou> Oh yeah, I showed you the spiral wheat farm :>
#1273 [13:09] <genshou> Note that expanding in "any direction" does cut down in efficiency for total surface area as well as harvesting/planting speed Xerati
#1274 [13:09] <genshou> Making a single long tunnel with only the normal (but now very long) spiral loop in the middle is a more efficient way to grow the same number of crops
#1275 [13:11] <Matttttthew> o.o
#1276 [13:11] <Matttttthew> Sounds interesting
#1277 [13:11] * Matttttthew fries up Meat_Boy and eats him
#1277 [13:12] <Xerati> genshou, the efficeiency for size is irrelevant
#1278 [13:12] <thereddeh> good boy
#1279 [13:12] <thereddeh> i hate Meat_Boy
#1280 [13:12] <genshou> Matttttthew, I normally use multiple connected 9x9 field with one water in the centre in single player
#1281 [13:12] <Xerati> because at the expansion of say...70 ish wheat growing, it's a 1-2 block loss of efficency
#1282 [13:12] <Matttttthew> Ah
#1283 [13:12] <Xerati> that's not much at all
#1284 [13:12] <genshou> but you can't sneak to avoid trampling in smp, as I learned D;
#1285 [13:13] <Matttttthew> I just made a crappy greenhouse glassy thing
#1286 [13:13] <Matttttthew> With water between eachrow :S
#1287 [13:13] <genshou> The spiral farm has crops on a shelf with a wall behind them
#1288 [13:13] <Matttttthew> Anyways
#1289 [13:13] <genshou> that puts them at a nice height to just run around the spiral harvesting with no fear of stepping on any
#1290 [13:13] <Matttttthew> I must finish my assload of math homework before class starts back tomorrow
#1291 [13:14] <Matttttthew> So I'll bbl, peoples. Later
#1292 [13:14] <Xerati> it is indeed nice
#1293 [13:14] <genshou> Xerati, have you tried putting half-blocks on the floor of your spiral? Some people find it easier to aim at the blocks when replanting, but you have to build a ceiling above the crops so you can't step up onto them
#1294 [13:14] <Xerati> ehh
#1295 [13:14] <Xerati> haven't tried
#1296 [13:14] <Xerati> and that means a lot more blocks in there
#1297 [13:15] <genshou> yeah
#1298 [13:15] <Xerati> i don't have a problem with it though
#1299 [13:15] <genshou> not that blocks are hard to get xD
#1300 [13:16] <Xerati> :P
#1301 [13:18] <thereddeh> genshou a trail of 3 wide does grow a bit faster than a single row i think
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#1303 [13:19] <genshou> could be
#1304 [13:19] <Diablothein> Lol, just got a phone call, my friend's car caught on fire XD
#1305 [13:19] <genshou> it may increase the chance of any given block out of the 3 growing before the others
#1306 [13:19] <thereddeh> tell him to build one out of stone
#1307 [13:19] <genshou> Personally I'd make it a full chunk wide (16) just to be Awesome.
#1308 [13:19] <thereddeh> lol
#1309 [13:19] <genshou> lol Diablothein, tell him not to build his new one out of netherrack
#1310 [13:20] <Diablothein> Lol, I'm being serious, his Nissan 240SX caught on fire.
#1311 [13:20] <thereddeh> tell him to get a nissan gtr instead
#1312 [13:20] <Diablothein> ^no
#1313 [13:21] <Diablothein> He'
#1314 [13:21] <Diablothein> >.<
#1315 [13:21] <Diablothein> He's on contract with me that if his car catches fire, he's swapping it for an RX7
#1316 [13:21] <thereddeh> gtr > rx6
#1317 [13:22] <thereddeh> and 7 ;p
#1318 [13:22] <Xerati> <thereddeh> genshou a trail of 3 wide does grow a bit faster than a single row i think
#1319 [13:22] <Xerati> only the center row
#1320 [13:22] <Xerati> and it's a pain in the ass to replant
#1321 [13:22] <Diablothein> uhm. burn in hell
#1322 [13:22] <Xerati> i was doing 3 rows wheat, 1 water, 3 wheat, 1 walkway, repeat
#1323 [13:22] <genshou> Xerati, we're talking about creating a dirt trail to lead grass into the middle of a desert for his/her greenhouse
#1324 [13:22] <thereddeh> Im not your friends car xD
#1325 [13:23] <Diablothein> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXjzLaVvhjU
#1326 [13:23] <Xerati> right
#1327 [13:23] <Diablothein> 12A RX7 versus V8 Ford Falcon, the Falcon is a Bathurst racecar
#1328 [13:24] <thereddeh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXuYftXg2-c rx7 vs gtr ;p
#1329 [13:24] <Diablothein> 7 wins
#1330 [13:25] <mbentley> i'll stick to my 13b :)
#1331 [13:25] <thereddeh> not in prettyness ;p
#1332 [13:25] <Diablothein> mbentley, you own?
#1333 [13:26] <mbentley> i have an 05 rx8
#1334 [13:26] <Diablothein> Bah
#1335 [13:26] <Diablothein> Close enough XD
#1336 [13:26] <mbentley> lol
#1337 [13:26] <genshou> I'll stick to my $5000 used economy car ^_^
#1338 [13:26] <Diablothein> Friend of mine's 3rd gen RX7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpUOMo8HU8
#1339 [13:26] <Xerati> i'll stick to my expensive corvette :/
#1340 [13:26] <thereddeh> ill stick to my bicucle :(
#1341 [13:26] <Xerati> mainly because i have no choice
#1342 [13:26] <thereddeh> y
#1343 [13:27] <Xerati> i owe more on it than it's worth
#1344 [13:27] <mbentley> fd's are sexy as hell
#1345 [13:27] <Xerati> fun as hell to drive though :)
#1346 [13:27] <Diablothein> lol, that FD could whoop a 'vette
#1347 [13:27] <Diablothein> and it has, more than once.
#1348 [13:28] <mbentley> his fd still have a rotary or did it get the ole heart transplat?
#1349 [13:28] <claudis> I can run faster both them cars!
#1350 [13:28] <mbentley> *transplant
#1351 [13:29] <Diablothein> depends on what type of transplant you're saying XD
#1352 [13:29] <Diablothein> http://www.rx7club.com/picture.php?albumid=203&pictureid=8479
#1353 [13:29] <Diablothein> 20B-REW
#1354 [13:29] <mbentley> wow
#1355 [13:29] <mbentley> WANT
#1356 [13:29] <mbentley> :D
#1357 [13:29] <Diablothein> Someone commented on that pic: "Dude, you need to put a cover on that turbo, keep it from sucking kids in."
#1358 [13:30] <Diablothein> lol, it pushes over 1k hp
#1359 [13:30] <mbentley> that is quite a turbo
#1360 [13:31] * Diablothein has driven that RX7 before
#1360 [13:31] <Diablothein> :D
#1361 [13:31] <thereddeh> i onlt have 230 hp :(
#1362 [13:31] <Diablothein> oh, here's a better engine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqtXFtkARCw
#1363 [13:31] <claudis> My car is 1000 dead horse power :(
#1364 [13:31] <fork> lol
#1365 [13:32] <fork> mine puts out 109hp stock
#1366 [13:32] <fork> :D
#1367 [13:32] <fork> VROOOOOOOOOOM
#1368 [13:32] <thereddeh> at least i win from 1 person ;p
#1369 [13:32] <Diablothein> fork drives a weed whacker.
#1370 [13:32] <fork> yes
#1371 [13:32] <fork> although like 150 ft-lb tq :)
#1372 [13:33] <fork> which is still low lol
#1373 [13:33] <fork> and it weighs over 4000lbs
#1374 [13:33] <fork> on 33" tires
#1375 [13:33] <Diablothein> XD
#1376 [13:34] <Diablothein> fat
#1377 [13:34] <thereddeh> with 14" rims? ;p
#1378 [13:35] <Xerati> bwahahaha
#1379 [13:36] <fork> 16"
#1380 [13:36] <fork> hehehe
#1381 [13:37] <fork> http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4846/4rnr.jpg it aint so bad
#1382 [13:37] <thereddeh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81GPj-oOoY0&NR=1&feature=fvwp
#1383 [13:37] <thereddeh> unreliable car :(
#1384 [13:38] <fork> oh noes
#1385 [13:38] <thereddeh> u can drive over an rx7 xD
#1386 [13:39] <thereddeh> i had no idea u were from texas
#1387 [13:39] <fork> with ease
#1388 [13:39] <fork> lol texas
#1389 [13:39] <fork> ps i have 3 of those
#1390 [13:39] <fork> :D
#1391 [13:39] <fork> just ripped a bunch of parts off one yesterday
#1392 [13:39] <thereddeh> lol whyyy
#1393 [13:39] <Diablothein> Lol, all I have to do is walk up to it and push it from the side, it'll flip XD
#1394 [13:39] <fork> because i can
#1395 [13:39] <thereddeh> for 3 of those u can get 1 prettier car ;p
#1396 [13:39] <thereddeh> and some spare parts
#1397 [13:40] <fork> i got that one for $900
#1398 [13:40] <fork> and rebuilt the entire top end
#1399 [13:40] <fork> :>
#1400 [13:40] <fork> <3 22r-e
#1401 [13:40] <thereddeh> so how many cowboyhats do u own ;p
#1402 [13:41] <fork> hm none
#1403 [13:41] <thereddeh> wtf
#1404 [13:41] <fork> hawai'i doesn't have too many cowboys
#1405 [13:41] <thereddeh> ur messing up my entire image of the states ;p
#1406 [13:41] <fork> onoes ur stereotypes fail
#1407 [13:41] <thereddeh> ;p
#1408 [13:42] <fork> i also administer networks and surf
#1409 [13:42] <thereddeh> and there i thought u drove cattle ;p
#1410 [13:42] <fork> i could shatter every one of your stereotypes
#1411 [13:42] <thereddeh> and played the banjo
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#1413 [13:42] <fork> i play guitar
#1414 [13:42] <fork> fairly well
#1415 [13:42] <thereddeh> thats got to be at least worth half a point
#1416 [13:43] <thereddeh> in favor of stereotypes
#1417 [13:43] <claudis> banjo beats guitar just because you get to say you've got a purdy mouth!
#1418 [13:43] <fork> actually i plug my guitar pedal into my trucks' stereos and jam via the sound system
#1419 [13:43] <thereddeh> haha
#1420 [13:43] <fork> people trip the fuck out when i do that
#1421 [13:43] <thereddeh> yeah theyre used to ukuleles
#1422 [13:44] <thereddeh> on hawaii
#1423 [13:44] <thereddeh> right? ;p
#1424 [13:44] <fork> or because i just ran over their grass shack
#1425 [13:44] <genshou> thereddeh, actually only a very very very tiny minority of people in the US are cowboys
#1426 [13:44] <thereddeh> lies! i saw movies!
#1427 [13:44] <thereddeh> ;)
#1428 [13:44] <genshou> Modern farming/transporation technology makes even a veggie garden in the backyard uncommon these days
#1429 [13:45] <thereddeh> im just messing, unlike americans i do have a good idea what the worlds like xD
#1430 [13:45] <Xerati> heh
#1431 [13:45] <claudis> i heard its around the same as the homosexual male population :P
#1432 [13:45] <Xerati> more and more people are starting 'garden's
#1433 [13:45] <Xerati> ;)
#1434 [13:45] <genshou> Americans have just as good an idea about the world as anyone else.
#1435 [13:45] <genshou> Everyone has to find some other country to hate on and think is ignorant ;)
#1436 [13:45] <thereddeh> lies i saw videaos on youtube!
#1437 [13:45] <Xerati> thereddeh, where you from?
#1438 [13:45] <claudis> Brokeback jokes ftw
#1439 [13:45] <genshou> I prefer France for that. They can't fight back ^_^
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#1441 [13:45] <Xerati> genshou, like australia?
#1442 [13:45] <Xerati> xD
#1443 [13:45] <thereddeh> netherlands
#1444 [13:45] <fork> lol
#1445 [13:45] <Xerati> oh, yeah
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#1447 [13:45] <genshou> Xerati, Yankees prefer Canada
#1448 [13:45] <genshou> :D
#1449 [13:45] <Xerati> france, french-canada, and australia
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#1451 [13:46] <fork> im on vacation w/that truck fyi
#1452 [13:46] <Xerati> wow, fail
#1453 [13:46] <fork> on another island :>
#1454 [13:46] <thereddeh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q566ys0sqVQ
#1455 [13:46] <thereddeh> ;p
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#1457 [13:47] <claudis> the french have nukes but no key to use them :)
#1458 [13:47] <thereddeh> im coming to states in november for teh first time :D
#1459 [13:47] <fork> nor balls
#1460 [13:48] <fork> cool
#1461 [13:48] <fork> try not to get shot
#1462 [13:48] <genshou> which states, thereddeh
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#1464 [13:48] <genshou> Despite what you may think there's a HUGE difference depending on where you end up ;)
#1465 [13:48] <thereddeh> just one lol
#1466 [13:48] <Xerati> nebraska
#1467 [13:48] <Xerati> xD
#1468 [13:48] <genshou> lol Nebraska xD
#1469 [13:48] <fork> lol
#1470 [13:48] <thereddeh> running the new york marathon
#1471 [13:48] <Xerati> he's going to meet jersey peeps
#1472 [13:48] <Xerati> and he'll hate america
#1473 [13:48] <genshou> Oh no.
#1474 [13:48] <genshou> D:
#1475 [13:48] <fork> i miss nothing about the continental US except my relatives
#1476 [13:49] <fork> other than that, the whole place can kiss my ass
#1477 [13:49] <genshou> fork, isn't laundry detergent around $22 for a box in your state?
#1478 [13:49] <thereddeh> whats wrong with jersey peeps ;p
#1479 [13:49] <fork> wtf? no lol
#1480 [13:49] <genshou> thereddeh, everything :<
#1481 [13:50] <genshou> my sister's friend is going to college in Hawaii and complains about prices constantly
#1482 [13:50] <thereddeh> do u know any1 i can get married to so i get a greencard? xSD
#1483 [13:50] <Xerati> heh
#1484 [13:50] <Xerati> prices in my area suck ass
#1485 [13:50] <Xerati> not as bad as DC though
#1486 [13:50] <claudis> i agree fork. people put to much into patriotism it's just a word meaning brainwashed. your home is wear you hang your hat. the only thing that matters if family
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#1488 [13:51] <fork> your sister's friend is probably from utah or some other place where things are unusually cheap to begin with
#1489 [13:51] <claudis> is ^
#1490 [13:51] <mib_2umb2j> Do i need to place the cartograph folders anywhere special for them to work?
#1491 [13:51] <Xerati> patriotism is an excuse to get away with questionable actions
#1492 [13:51] <mib_2umb2j> :p
#1493 [13:51] <genshou> thereddeh, you male or female? xD
#1494 [13:51] <fork> prices here are roughly the same as california
#1495 [13:51] <Xerati> mib_2umb2j, usually on the computer
#1496 [13:51] <thereddeh> male ;p
#1497 [13:51] <mib_2umb2j> heee heeee
#1498 [13:51] <fork> ps
#1499 [13:51] <genshou> Hmm, my sister turns 18 this year :>
#1500 [13:51] <mib_2umb2j> i cant get it to work--
#1501 [13:51] <fork> i go to college here, hook me up with your sister's friend ;p
#1502 [13:51] <thereddeh> great, ill take her!
#1503 [13:51] <mib_2umb2j> sorry for asking.
#1504 [13:51] <claudis> pics plz :P
#1505 [13:51] <Xerati> genshou, she hot?
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#1507 [13:51] <genshou> mib_2umb2j, Cartograph should work anywhere
#1508 [13:51] <fork> my sister is 19 ;p
#1509 [13:51] <genshou> Exactly what problem are you running into?
#1510 [13:52] <genshou> fork, equivalent exchange? :D
#1511 [13:52] <fork> and fat and pregnant. owned
#1512 [13:52] <thereddeh> hehehe
#1513 [13:52] <genshou> I give thereddeh my sister, you give me yours
#1514 [13:52] <genshou> >.>
#1515 [13:52] <mib_2umb2j> the program just freezes
#1516 [13:52] <claudis> i'm into pregnant :P
#1517 [13:52] <mib_2umb2j> and nothing happends
#1518 [13:52] <claudis> pics plz
#1519 [13:52] <genshou> mib_2umb2j, on load or on attempting to render?
#1520 [13:52] <claudis> lol
#1521 [13:52] <mib_2umb2j> render
#1522 [13:52] <genshou> What settings are you using?
#1523 [13:53] <mib_2umb2j> the default settings havent touch anything
#1524 [13:53] <mib_2umb2j> ;p
#1525 [13:54] <genshou> How much filespace does your world take up?
#1526 [13:54] <mib_2umb2j> 7mb
#1527 [13:54] <genshou> How much RAM do you have?
#1528 [13:54] <thereddeh> stop pmming me for pics!!
#1529 [13:54] <Xerati> 56mb
#1530 [13:54] <claudis> lol are ppl really asking for pics of your sister?
#1531 [13:54] <mib_2umb2j> 3gig
#1532 [13:54] <Xerati> is she hot?
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#1534 [13:57] <thereddeh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q566ys0sqVQ << i cant stop laughing
#1535 [13:58] <genshou> Oh come on, those are obviously actors :I
#1536 [13:59] <thereddeh> yeah like u know all the answers ;p
#1537 [13:59] <genshou> I dunno.
#1538 [13:59] <genshou> Video is still loading the first 5 seconds for me.
#1539 [13:59] <thereddeh> still funny though :)
#1540 [13:59] <thereddeh> course u know all the answers
#1541 [13:59] <thereddeh> i didnt know the axis of evil... :(
#1542 [14:00] <thereddeh> turns out it was something bush made up
#1543 [14:00] <claudis> Nah thats real public. I do computer tech support and the people in that video are genius if you hear my callers.
#1544 [14:00] <genshou> xD well, that's because the smart people figure it out for themselves claudis
#1545 [14:00] <thereddeh> hehe
#1546 [14:00] <genshou> If you filter out smart people of course you're going to think everyone's that dumb
#1547 [14:01] <thereddeh> nah, im not stupid ;p
#1548 [14:01] * genshou looking for a world download containing a nice sailing vessel
#1548 [14:01] <Xerati> i know like 98% of the answers
#1549 [14:01] <Xerati> and most of america isn't that retarded
#1550 [14:01] <claudis> i'll tell you about one of my calls then.
#1551 [14:01] <thereddeh> great :D
#1552 [14:01] <Xerati> also, random knowledge != intelligence
#1553 [14:02] <Xerati> knowing random facts about shit you have nothing to do with doesn't make you smarter
#1554 [14:02] <Xerati> it just means you know random shit
#1555 [14:02] <claudis> I has somebody call in with no connection. after troubleshooting and finding no proxy, valid ip and throughput via command prompt i thought it's likely the security.
#1556 [14:02] <claudis> i told the guy to turn off the security but he refused. i told him if it wasn't the security he wouldn't get online anyway.
#1557 [14:02] <fork> tbh
#1558 [14:03] <fork> most of the US is pretty retarded as a whole
#1559 [14:03] <genshou> :I
#1560 [14:03] <fork> there are pockets of educated people around
#1561 [14:03] <genshou> No, humans are retarded
#1562 [14:03] <Xerati> it's not the US
#1563 [14:03] <claudis> he still refused. so i advised to goto safemode. i told him reboot the machine and keep tapping f8 on the keyboard.
#1564 [14:03] <fork> avoid the south entirely
#1565 [14:03] <Xerati> it's the world
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#1567 [14:03] <genshou> I've travelled the world and people are stupid everywhere, just in different ways and about different things.
#1568 [14:03] <Xerati> genshou wins an internet
#1569 [14:03] <fork> genshou: willful ignorance isn't acceptable to me
#1570 [14:03] <genshou> Education makes a difference but ultimately we're all just morons :D
#1571 [14:04] <claudis> the guy didn't understand my scottish accent and it took me several tries restarting the computer to find out he was tapping his feet on the keyboard.
#1572 [14:04] <jDodson99> My server started bugging up today, and I don't know what's wrong o_O
#1573 [14:04] <thereddeh> lol
#1574 [14:04] <jDodson99> I didn't change anything, it just started doing this: *getting pastebin*
#1575 [14:04] <genshou> fork, maybe there's more willful ignorance in the US because there are so many Christians. Just sayin' :P
#1576 [14:04] <jDodson99> http://mibpaste.com/MDwAyU
#1577 [14:05] <fork> i don't buy that
#1578 [14:05] <claudis> i was like WTF? you wouldn't turn off your firewall but you thought i told you to tap your feet on the keyboard and had no problem with that
#1579 [14:05] <fork> religion vs education is hit or miss
#1580 [14:05] <fork> but geographically speaking
#1581 [14:05] <fork> the south is full of idiots
#1582 [14:05] <genshou> I used to live in Utah
#1583 [14:05] <jDodson99> o_O
#1584 [14:06] <jDodson99> Is this not the help channel???
#1585 [14:06] <genshou> I've SEEN the effects of religious brainwashing on scientific intelligence :<
#1586 [14:06] <genshou> Heh, perhaps jDodson99 is right, we shouldn't carry this too far :<
#1587 [14:06] <fork> maybe
#1588 [14:06] <fork> i don't really know any unsuccessful mormons
#1589 [14:06] <jDodson99> WTF/
#1590 [14:06] <jDodson99> How can a moron be successful?
#1591 [14:06] <thereddeh> lol
#1592 [14:06] <jDodson99> Oh wait, you said mormon...
#1593 [14:06] <thereddeh> same really ;p
#1594 [14:07] <fork> lol
#1595 [14:07] <jDodson99> Heh ^.^"
#1596 [14:07] <genshou> fork, I grew up in Utah. I knew a lot of them :D
#1597 [14:07] <fork> genshou: this is hawai'i
#1598 [14:07] <fork> we also have tons of them
#1599 [14:07] <jDodson99> So anywho,does anyone know what screwed up my server?
#1600 [14:07] <jDodson99> *what may have screwed up my server
#1601 [14:07] <thereddeh> so what about that god hates fag church thing
#1602 [14:07] <thereddeh> how fucked up are they
#1603 [14:07] <claudis> i'd go mormon, those guys are always getting laid. nothing stupid about that lol
#1604 [14:07] <fork> lol
#1605 [14:08] <genshou> claudis, er, they are?
#1606 [14:08] <genshou> :s
#1607 [14:08] <genshou> methinks you're a tad confused
#1608 [14:08] <jDodson99> Methinks the word "methinks" is funny.
#1609 [14:09] <genshou> I like the word. D;
#1610 [14:09] <genshou> jDodson99, if it was working before, not sure why the port would suddenly not work
#1611 [14:09] <thereddeh> maybe a server is already running?
#1612 [14:10] <jDodson99> ...
#1613 [14:10] <jDodson99> thereddeh: Thank you, Captain Obvious.
#1614 [14:10] <thereddeh> :P
#1615 [14:10] <jDodson99> I don't have another server running
#1616 [14:10] <Diablothein> what about Mormons?
#1617 [14:11] <jDodson99> I completely quit Terminal and the server .jar, but it still does that
#1618 [14:11] <thereddeh> if u type netstat in cmd, is that port listed?
#1619 [14:12] <jDodson99> I'm on a mac so that command may not work, but Imma try it.
#1620 [14:12] <thereddeh> :/
#1621 [14:12] <thereddeh> probably not
#1622 [14:12] <thereddeh> no idea
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#1624 [14:12] <jDodson99> It worked
#1625 [14:12] <jDodson99> I'm looking through it
#1626 [14:12] <thereddeh> what didnt apple steal ;p
#1627 [14:12] <jDodson99> Er...
#1628 [14:13] <jDodson99> I have no idae what this means :/
#1629 [14:13] <Xerati> agreed
#1630 [14:13] <Xerati> [11:06:34] <jDodson99> How can a moron be successful?
#1631 [14:13] <Xerati> [11:06:35] <thereddeh> lol
#1632 [14:13] <Xerati> [11:06:40] <jDodson99> Oh wait, you said mormon...
#1633 [14:13] <Xerati> LOL
#1634 [14:13] <jDodson99> xD
#1635 [14:13] <genshou> Mac OS X's command line is built on a Unix shell
#1636 [14:13] <jDodson99> http://mibpaste.com/NHA4yg
#1637 [14:13] <jDodson99> That's what I get :/
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#1639 [14:14] <Jayro> hey, can you guys help me with c10t?
#1640 [14:14] <Xerati> uhhh
#1641 [14:14] <Xerati> what's that?
#1642 [14:14] <Jayro> the mapper
#1643 [14:14] <Jayro> it has a google-api thing i want on my site
#1644 [14:14] <Jayro> but i cant get it too work
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#1646 [14:15] <Xerati> ahh
#1647 [14:15] <Xerati> dunno
#1648 [14:15] <jDodson99> http://mibpaste.com/NHA4yg so what does that mean exactly???? o_O
#1649 [14:15] <Jayro> when i run it i get this :
#1650 [14:15] <Jayro> See php.ini and be sure it contains extension=php_gd2.dll
#1651 [14:15] <Jayro> but i added that line to both my php.ini files D:
#1652 [14:16] <Jayro> and i still get it
#1653 [14:16] <thereddeh> no idea ;p
#1654 [14:16] <thereddeh> just a list of connections established ;p
#1655 [14:16] <lemon-rev> does anyone know much about the neather world ?
#1656 [14:16] <Xerati> did you add it to the right php.ini and put that in the right location
#1657 [14:16] <Xerati> AND restart the webserver?
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#1659 [14:17] <Xerati> wait...
#1660 [14:17] <Xerati> does it use a webserver?
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#1662 [14:17] <Xaevo> my minecraft won't update D:
#1663 [14:17] <Xerati> Xaevo, you broke it
#1664 [14:17] <Xaevo> still...
#1665 [14:17] <Xaevo> Xerati, nooo
#1666 [14:17] <Xerati> i told you how to fix it
#1667 [14:17] <Xaevo> i did that 1000000000000 times :/
#1668 [14:17] <Xerati> no you didn't
#1669 [14:17] <Xaevo> your fix is -not- working
#1670 [14:17] <Xerati> you deleted the entire folder
#1671 [14:17] <Xaevo> i deleted the jar's too
#1672 [14:17] <Xaevo> duuuuuh
#1673 [14:18] <Xerati> yes
#1674 [14:18] <Xaevo> hello, i have some major IT knowledge, k?
#1675 [14:18] <Xerati> deleting the jar's isn't the only step
#1676 [14:18] <Xerati> you need one more
#1677 [14:18] <Xerati> i have some too
#1678 [14:18] <Xaevo> but why minecraft won't download it's packages is like... w.t.f
#1679 [14:18] <Xerati> that's why i'm a sys/net admin at microsoft
#1680 [14:18] <Xerati> go into the .minecraft folder, what do you see?
#1681 [14:18] <thereddeh> its like every1 in here works with computers ;p
#1682 [14:18] <Xaevo> lastlogin / bin
#1683 [14:19] <Xerati> O_o
#1684 [14:19] <Xerati> wtf
#1685 [14:19] * Xerati opens his folder
#1685 [14:19] <Xaevo> lastlogin file, bin folder
#1686 [14:19] <Xerati> go into bin
#1687 [14:19] <Xerati> what's in there?
#1688 [14:19] <Jayro> yes i added it to the apache php.ini
#1689 [14:19] <Jayro> and restated apache
#1690 [14:19] <Xerati> Jayro, did you make sure all httpd's died before restarting?
#1691 [14:19] <Jayro> ??
#1692 [14:19] <Xerati> meh
#1693 [14:19] <Xerati> if it's in the right location, it should work then
#1694 [14:20] <Xerati> killall -9 httpd
#1695 [14:20] <Xaevo> jinput.jar, lwjgl.jar, ljwgl_util.jar, minecraft.jar
#1696 [14:20] <Jayro> k
#1697 [14:20] <Xerati> Xaevo, delete them, as well as the version file
#1698 [14:20] <Jayro> i restarted the server with this
#1699 [14:20] <Jayro> /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
#1700 [14:20] <Xerati> should be good then if php is installed
#1701 [14:21] <Jayro> i get this now
#1702 [14:21] <Xerati> does php work on the web server?
#1703 [14:21] <Jayro> PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/php_gd2.dll' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/php_gd2.dll: cannot ope
#1704 [14:21] <Xerati> HA
#1705 [14:21] <Xerati> ok
#1706 [14:21] <Xerati> cannot open? does the file exist in that path?
#1707 [14:21] <Jayro> its php5 so it should :S
#1708 [14:21] <Jayro> but ill check
#1709 [14:22] <Xerati> do a phpinfo()
#1710 [14:22] <Xerati> php_info()
#1711 [14:22] <Xaevo> Xerati, there is no version file
#1712 [14:22] <Xerati> whatever it is
#1713 [14:22] <Jayro> php_info()???
#1714 [14:22] <Xerati> Xaevo, bin/VERSION ?
#1715 [14:22] <Xerati> no extension?
#1716 [14:22] <Xaevo> nope
#1717 [14:22] <Xaevo> nothing
#1718 [14:22] <Xerati> Jayro, yeah
#1719 [14:22] <Jayro> how do i do that?
#1720 [14:22] <Xerati> in the webroot, make a .php file with <? phpinfo();?> in it
#1721 [14:22] <Xaevo> fucking finally
#1722 [14:23] <Xaevo> did that like 70 times :/
#1723 [14:23] <Xerati> riiiiight >_>
#1724 [14:23] <Xerati> ;P
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#1726 [14:23] <Xerati> i forgot it was .minecraft/bin
#1727 [14:24] <Xaevo> Xerati, yes i did that alot of times :/
#1728 [14:24] <Jayro> here: http://jarred.servegame.com/test.php
#1729 [14:25] <Xerati> ahh good
#1730 [14:25] <Xerati> ok
#1731 [14:25] <Xerati> sec
#1732 [14:25] <Xerati> /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
#1733 [14:25] <Xerati> that's the one you have to add the line to
#1734 [14:25] <Jayro> i did
#1735 [14:25] <lemon-rev> lol so you can kill those white things with dangleing things on em lol
#1736 [14:25] <Xerati> oh
#1737 [14:25] <Xerati> what's in /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/
#1738 [14:25] <Xerati> lemon-rev, yeah
#1739 [14:25] <Xerati> ghasts?
#1740 [14:26] <Xerati> smacking their balls
#1741 [14:26] <lemon-rev> i dont know what they are called
#1742 [14:26] <Jayro> the only file in there is pdo.so
#1743 [14:26] <lemon-rev> im in the neather mostly protected by cobble stone which is stronger than hell rock
#1744 [14:26] <lemon-rev> lol
#1745 [14:28] <Xerati> Jayro,that's the problem
#1746 [14:28] <Xerati> your shared libs are missing :O
#1747 [14:29] <Xerati> where did you extract GD to?
#1748 [14:29] <Jayro> i didnt
#1749 [14:29] <Jayro> :s
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#1751 [14:29] <Xerati> <_<
#1752 [14:29] <Xerati> does it come preinstalled on your host?
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#1755 [14:30] <Jayro> its a server i built and its in my basement
#1756 [14:30] <Jayro> so no
#1757 [14:30] <Xerati> do'h
#1758 [14:30] <Jayro> i assumed it came with php5
#1759 [14:30] <Xerati> you have to install GD2 for php
#1760 [14:30] <Xerati> nope
#1761 [14:30] <Xerati> err
#1762 [14:30] <Xerati> well it wasn't 2 years ago
#1763 [14:31] <Jayro> so who do i install it??
#1764 [14:31] <Xerati> you extract it and include it
#1765 [14:31] <Xerati> what OS?
#1766 [14:31] <Xerati> err
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#1768 [14:31] * Xerati facepalms
#1768 [14:31] <Xerati> ubuntu
#1769 [14:31] <Jayro> ubuntu 10.10
#1770 [14:31] <Xerati> um
#1771 [14:32] <Xerati> there's probably some easy to install method for php installations on ubuntu
#1772 [14:32] <Xerati> unfortunately, i got out of the scene when ubuntu started coming in
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#1774 [14:32] <lemon-rev> i wish i could get like a point system for killing hell critters
#1775 [14:32] <Xerati> the entire nix average community IQ dropped significantly when ubuntu was made
#1776 [14:32] <sutadesign> where could I ask for assistance with iconomy plugin
#1777 [14:33] <Xerati> do they have a room?
#1778 [14:33] <Jayro> so the best way to install GD would be?
#1779 [14:33] <Xerati> well based on our interactions thus far, using some simple easy automatic installation
#1780 [14:34] <Xerati> which i'm sure exists
#1781 [14:34] <Xerati> however, i don't know that method
#1782 [14:34] <Xerati> i always installed everything myself manually via cli
#1783 [14:34] <sutadesign> the rules say we do not provide support for third party mods or software, so didn't think I could get help concerning iconomy here
#1784 [14:34] <Xerati> we don't support it
#1785 [14:34] <Xerati> but someone in here may be able to help
#1786 [14:35] <Xerati> http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.rexwallpapers.com/images/wallpapers/celebs/ali-larter/ali_larter_7.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.rexwallpapers.com/wallpaper/Ali-larter-7/&h=768&w=1024&sz=34&tbnid=cLoK5gVdVyspKM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dali%2Blarter&zoom=1&q=ali+larter&usg=__CU2d2RY1v865i5WZ5VJ0jGtwz4A=&sa=X&ei=jSQiTZjTIIL2tgOU6vDnAQ&ved=0CCIQ9QEwAA
#1787 [14:35] <barrycarlyon> php on ubuntu? sudo apt-get install php5
#1788 [14:35] <Xerati> he's got that
#1789 [14:35] <Xerati> what about gd for it though
#1790 [14:36] * barrycarlyon thinks
#1790 [14:36] <Xerati> ^^
#1791 [14:36] <Xerati> i'm a bsd guy
#1792 [14:36] <barrycarlyon> e too
#1793 [14:36] <Xerati> and it's been years
#1794 [14:36] <sutadesign> well after installing iconomy when I try reloading the plugin I get this java error : http://pastebin.com/VHjpEsxQ
#1795 [14:38] <Xerati> rofl
#1796 [14:38] <Xerati> out of memory
#1797 [14:38] <Jayro> Reading package lists... Done
#1798 [14:38] <Jayro> Building dependency tree
#1799 [14:38] <Xerati> either a bof, broken array, or your system is really really shitty
#1800 [14:38] <Jayro> oops
#1801 [14:38] <Jayro> apt-get install php5-gd!!!
#1802 [14:38] <Jayro> woot
#1803 [14:38] <sutadesign> normally only 6 people on at a time running 3gb of memory
#1804 [14:38] <Xerati> ^^
#1805 [14:39] <Xerati> hmm
#1806 [14:39] <Xerati> how much is free atm?
#1807 [14:40] <sutadesign> wow total 2770 used 2696 free 75
#1808 [14:40] <Xerati> lol
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#1810 [14:40] <Xerati> i'd say save and restart
#1811 [14:40] <Bestefar> Hey buys
#1812 [14:40] <Bestefar> Guys*
#1813 [14:40] <Xerati> lol
#1814 [14:41] <Xerati> hi Oscar
#1815 [14:41] <sutadesign> didn't realize minecraft used that much resources?
#1816 [14:41] <Xerati> sutadesign, scary eh?
#1817 [14:41] <sutadesign> free -t -m
#1818 [14:41] <Bestefar> I have a slight problem, I cannot connect to my account.. Darn password was set by a friend and the email is wrong, how can I obtain my account again?
#1819 [14:41] <sutadesign> sorry wrong window
#1820 [14:41] <Xerati> wrong email?
#1821 [14:41] <Xerati> good luck
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#1823 [14:42] <Bestefar> Not the answer I was expecting
#1824 [14:42] <Jayro> i got GD working
#1825 [14:42] <Jayro> but this is what happens when i run c10t
#1826 [14:42] <Jayro> http://pastebin.com/5e99EPNa
#1827 [14:43] <Xerati> Bestefar, no idea how you can prove it's yours/
#1828 [14:43] <barrycarlyon> woot
#1829 [14:43] <Xerati> Jayro
#1830 [14:43] <Jayro> yes
#1831 [14:43] <Xerati> you still have the include from the php.ini pointing to a non-existant location
#1832 [14:44] <Jayro> where should it point?
#1833 [14:44] <Xerati> to the file
#1834 [14:44] <Xerati> O_o
#1835 [14:44] <Jayro> im confused
#1836 [14:44] <Xerati> hmm
#1837 [14:44] <Xerati> sec
#1838 [14:44] <Xerati> yeah, gd isn't loading yet
#1839 [14:45] <Xerati> /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/php_gd2.dll: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
#1840 [14:45] <Xerati> check that location again
#1841 [14:45] <Xerati> and find php_gd2.dll
#1842 [14:45] <barrycarlyon> That must be a different c10t to the one I use. As I'm sure the one I use is not php powered....
#1843 [14:45] <barrycarlyon> It is.
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#1845 [14:46] <Rev> hey guys
#1846 [14:46] <Jayro> the only 2 files in that directory are
#1847 [14:46] <Jayro> gd.so pdo.so
#1848 [14:47] <Xerati> ahh
#1849 [14:47] <Xerati> in your php.ini
#1850 [14:47] <Xerati> what's the line for including gd?
#1851 [14:47] <Xerati> change it to point to the gd.so
#1852 [14:47] <Xerati> not php_gd2.
#1853 [14:47] <Xerati> omfg
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#1855 [14:47] <Jayro> kk
#1856 [14:47] <Jayro> 1 sec
#1857 [14:47] <Xerati> did you install gd2?
#1858 [14:47] <Xerati> or 1?
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#1860 [14:48] <Jayro> i just did sudo apt-get install php5-gd
#1861 [14:49] <Xerati> try 2
#1862 [14:49] <Xerati> lol
#1863 [14:49] <Xerati> see if it works
#1864 [14:49] <Jayro> sudo apt-get install php5-gd
#1865 [14:49] <Jayro> 2 ??
#1866 [14:50] <Xerati> php5-gd2
#1867 [14:50] <Jayro> thats what i mean
#1868 [14:50] <Xerati> you did 2?
#1869 [14:50] <Jayro> E: Unable to locate package php5-gd2
#1870 [14:50] <Xerati> ahh
#1871 [14:50] <Xerati> yeh
#1872 [14:50] <Xerati> ok
#1873 [14:50] <Xerati> then do the php.ini to gd.so
#1874 [14:50] <Xerati> see if it works
#1875 [14:50] <Jayro> kk
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#1880 [14:53] <Jayro> so it should say "extension=gd.so" now right?
#1881 [14:53] <Xerati> mebs
#1882 [14:53] <Xerati> try it
#1883 [14:54] <kalbany> I'm trying to run my minecraft server on a computer connected to my router through wifi, I forwarded the ports again and it worked for a day, now it says the port is closed again
#1884 [14:54] <Xerati> is the server running?
#1885 [14:54] <kalbany> yeah
#1886 [14:54] <Xerati> did the machines' ip change (and thus it's forwarding to the wrong comp)?
#1887 [14:54] <kalbany> the port basically closed without me changing anything
#1888 [14:54] <kalbany> yeah the ip changed, but I changed that in the port forwarding and it ran for a day
#1889 [14:54] <kalbany> then I shut down my computer at night and it didn't work the next day
#1890 [14:55] <Xerati> did the ip change again?
#1891 [14:55] <kalbany> and it says the ports are closed once again even though the settings are the same
#1892 [14:55] <kalbany> no I checked in ipconfig
#1893 [14:55] <Xerati> what does netstat say?
#1894 [14:55] <Xerati> netstat -an
#1895 [14:55] <kalbany> one second
#1896 [14:56] <Jayro> this is what i get after runing it
#1897 [14:56] <Jayro> http://pastebin.com/BRUnxdpb
#1898 [14:56] <Jayro> pretty much the same
#1899 [14:56] <kalbany> just look for the port on netstat?
#1900 [14:56] <Xerati> it's still trying to load a broken gd2 somewhere
#1901 [14:56] <Xerati> kalbany, yeah
#1902 [14:56] <Xerati> in the listening section
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#1904 [14:57] <kalbany> one of the ports, 25566 is listening, but I use 25565 primarily.
#1905 [14:57] <kalbany> I dont see 25565
#1906 [14:57] <Xerati> so your server is running on the wrong port
#1907 [14:57] <Jayro> so how to i get GD2??
#1908 [14:57] <Xerati> update properties and restart
#1909 [14:57] <Xerati> Jayro, that's not the issue
#1910 [14:58] <Jayro> i dont undertand :S
#1911 [14:58] <Xerati> it's loading GD fine, which it thinks is ok
#1912 [14:58] <Xerati> your php is loading 2 diff gd's
#1913 [14:58] <Xerati> well
#1914 [14:58] <Xerati> trying to
#1915 [14:58] <Xerati> it's failing on one, and erroring, but that's fine/irrelevant
#1916 [14:58] <Xerati> however
#1917 [14:58] <Xerati> the problem you have now is internal to c10t
#1918 [14:58] <Xerati> /var/www/map already exists
#1919 [14:59] <kalbany> it says for me "
#1920 [14:59] <Xerati> that may be good or bad
#1921 [14:59] <kalbany> 127.0.0.1:25566 0.0.0.0:0 Listening
#1922 [14:59] <Xerati> but under that it starts throwing errors
#1923 [14:59] <Xerati> kalbany, yeah
#1924 [14:59] <kalbany> and the other port I use isnt listed
#1925 [14:59] <Xerati> do you have 25566 forwarded?
#1926 [14:59] <kalbany> yeah
#1927 [14:59] <Xerati> what os?
#1928 [14:59] <kalbany> windows 7
#1929 [15:00] <Xerati> paste your propeties file to me in a pm
#1930 [15:00] <Xerati> i think i has the fix
#1931 [15:00] <kalbany> server properties?
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#1933 [15:00] <Xerati> yeh
#1934 [15:00] <Jayro> so what do i have to do to make c10t stop spitting out errors?
#1935 [15:01] <Xerati> that would be a c10t thing :/
#1936 [15:01] <Xerati> i could probably work through their code but i'm not doing that, sorry :P
#1937 [15:02] <Xerati> hmm
#1938 [15:02] <Xerati> kalbany
#1939 [15:02] <Xerati> did you set those ip fields manually?
#1940 [15:02] <kalbany> just the server-ip=
#1941 [15:02] <Xerati> set server-ip to 0.0.0.0
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#1943 [15:02] <Xerati> and the other one...
#1944 [15:02] <Xerati> um
#1945 [15:03] <Xerati> i don't even know where the other one comes from
#1946 [15:03] <Xerati> leave it 0.0.0.0
#1947 [15:03] <Xerati> so both ip fields to 0.0.0.0
#1948 [15:04] <Xerati> and the port to 25565 if you're using that port
#1949 [15:04] <Xerati> obviously
#1950 [15:04] <Xerati> wait...
#1951 [15:04] <Xerati> how does mcadmin work?
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#1953 [15:04] <kalbany> the ip of the forwarded port?
#1954 [15:05] <Xerati> i dont know what mcadmin does, lemme check
#1955 [15:06] <barrycarlyon> Its a wrapper.
#1956 [15:06] <kalbany> just lost connection, using a new wifi adapter which may be causing some of the issues
#1957 [15:06] <kalbany> ok
#1958 [15:06] <Xerati> local proxy style?
#1959 [15:07] <barrycarlyon> no its just a method to control minecraft
#1960 [15:07] <Xerati> yeah
#1961 [15:07] <Xerati> but does it do it via a local proxy?
#1962 [15:07] <barrycarlyon> no proxy
#1963 [15:07] <Xerati> the config implies the application is being tunnelled through a local proxy
#1964 [15:07] <barrycarlyon> no
#1965 [15:07] <Xerati> hrm
#1966 [15:08] <Xerati> then why the server-ip and server-ip-real fields?
#1967 [15:08] <Xerati> and -real ports as well?
#1968 [15:08] * barrycarlyon shrugs
#1968 [15:08] <barrycarlyon> Local//external?
#1969 [15:08] <Xerati> that's what i was thinking
#1970 [15:08] <barrycarlyon> Without reading the relevant docs.
#1971 [15:08] <Xerati> but then i realized it doesn't matter on the external side
#1972 [15:08] <Xerati> and the "default" setup makes it look like a local proxy app
#1973 [15:09] <Xerati> MCAdmin acts like a tunnel for all clients, thus able to block hax/exploits before they reach the server (currently names with invalid chars) This means you got to allow MCAdmin in your firewall now, not java.exe!
#1974 [15:09] <Xerati> yes, it is a local proxy
#1975 [15:09] * Xerati slaps barrycarlyon
#1975 [15:09] <Xerati> ok kalbany
#1976 [15:09] <Xerati> use the 'gui' to set the config back
#1977 [15:10] <Xerati> my guess is you have a port conflict with the proxy and the server itself
#1978 [15:10] <Xerati> based on the config
#1979 [15:10] <Xerati> but i can't tell which one is supposed to be which
#1980 [15:10] <barrycarlyon> stupid proxy
#1981 [15:10] <Xerati> lol
#1982 [15:11] <Xerati> it's impressive they got it to hook so well
#1983 [15:11] <Xerati> based on the feature list
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#1985 [15:12] <barrycarlyon> isnt mcadmin the one on offer for a fiver at the moment?
#1986 [15:12] <Xerati> uhhh
#1987 [15:12] <Xerati> wut
#1988 [15:13] <barrycarlyon> i was thinking of a different one
#1989 [15:13] <Jayro> hey. im running the sript from /var/www/map now and im getting thi
#1990 [15:14] <Jayro> PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/php_gd2.dll' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/php_gd2.dll: cannot ope
#1991 [15:14] <Jayro> says the file dosnt exist
#1992 [15:15] <mbentley> then it doesn't exist or doesn't have the correct permissions/ownership
#1993 [15:15] <barrycarlyon> .dll is windows......
#1994 [15:15] <barrycarlyon> Your on ubuntu yes?
#1995 [15:15] <Jayro> yes
#1996 [15:16] <barrycarlyon> edit php.ini comment out the lines you edited with .dll at the end
#1997 [15:16] <Jayro> what do you mean?
#1998 [15:16] <barrycarlyon> have you edited php.ini?
#1999 [15:17] <Jayro> yes
#2000 [15:17] <barrycarlyon> what did you edit?
#2001 [15:17] <barrycarlyon> in fact pastebin the whole php.ini
#2002 [15:17] <Jayro> i cant, its 2000 lines and im editing with nano via ssh
#2003 [15:18] <Kealper> <fanboy>OMGNOTCHREPLIEDTOME</fanboy>
#2004 [15:18] <barrycarlyon> on ubuntu you should not need to edit php.ini
#2005 [15:18] <Jayro> i undid my edit, now ill restart apache and try again
#2006 [15:19] <barrycarlyon> delete your current php.ini (Or back it up) and copy php.ini-recommended to php.ini
#2007 [15:19] <barrycarlyon> shouldnt need to restart apache since your trying to run c10t, where did you get this c10t from its different to the once I use.
#2008 [15:20] <Jayro> its the c10t google-api tihjng for google maps
#2009 [15:21] <Jayro> im still getting it
#2010 [15:21] <Jayro> jarred@server:/var/www/map$ sudo php google-api.php /home/jarred/Desktop/bin/world /var/www/map
#2011 [15:21] <Jayro> PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/php_gd2.dll' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/php_gd2.dll: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
#2012 [15:21] <Jayro> Invalid world directory: /home/jarred/Desktop/bin/world
#2013 [15:22] <mbentley> i personally just run the google-api.sh script
#2014 [15:22] <barrycarlyon> ah
#2015 [15:22] <Jayro> does it do thee same thing?
#2016 [15:22] <Xerati> ignore that warning
#2017 [15:22] <Xerati> it is irrelevant
#2018 [15:22] <Xerati> <Jayro> Invalid world directory: /home/jarred/Desktop/bin/world
#2019 [15:22] <mbentley> it generates a google maps output like this >> http://minecraft.mbentley.net/maps/gmaps/
#2020 [15:22] <Xerati> that's your problem now
#2021 [15:22] * Kealper probably just broke irssi, but meh
#2021 [15:22] <barrycarlyon> THis is a php problem and I'd have to login to your machine to dig thru and find the problem.
#2022 [15:22] <Xerati> mbentley.net?
#2023 [15:23] <Jayro> i know, i was concerned about the other errors
#2024 [15:23] <Xerati> you and i think alike
#2025 [15:23] <Xerati> but don't look at mine, it's not ready
#2026 [15:23] <Xerati> at the moment it's not a php problem
#2027 [15:23] <barrycarlyon> I use minecraft overview for my google maps and c10t just for the top down//obilque
#2028 [15:23] <Xerati> the warning he is getting is just a stray uncommented line in the conf, but no issue
#2029 [15:23] <barrycarlyon> yah
#2030 [15:24] <barrycarlyon> Jayro: cd to yout world directory and type pwd
#2031 [15:24] <barrycarlyon> The path is not that
#2032 [15:24] <barrycarlyon> Tho it looks right
#2033 [15:24] <barrycarlyon> IRC in the bath is probably not the best option right now lol
#2034 [15:24] <Xerati> wtf
#2035 [15:25] <barrycarlyon> Tho bin/world seems odd
#2036 [15:25] <barrycarlyon> Assuming thats the directory your world is in.
#2037 [15:25] <Jayro> same error that it cant find it
#2038 [15:25] <Jayro> but that where it is
#2039 [15:25] <barrycarlyon> did you cd and pwd to get the path?
#2040 [15:25] <Jayro> yes
#2041 [15:26] <Jayro> jarred@server:~/Desktop/bin/world$ pwd
#2042 [15:26] <Jayro> /home/jarred/Desktop/bin/world
#2043 [15:26] <barrycarlyon> What is the contents of bin/world?
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#2045 [15:27] <genshou> Wow, there are some really awesome texture packs, aren't there?
#2046 [15:27] <Jayro> jarred@server:~/Desktop/bin/world$ ls
#2047 [15:27] <Jayro> 0 11 14 17 1a 1d 1g 1j 1m 1p 2 5 8 b e i l m p r t w z
#2048 [15:27] <Jayro> 1 12 15 18 1b 1e 1h 1k 1n 1q 3 6 9 c g j level.dat n players s u x
#2049 [15:27] <Jayro> 10 13 16 19 1c 1f 1i 1l 1o 1r 4 7 a d h k level.dat_old o q session.lock v y
#2050 [15:27] <Kealper> o.o
#2051 [15:27] <genshou> x.x
#2052 [15:28] <barrycarlyon> that looks fine so. No idea waht the problem is, next step is to go ask the c10t authors for help
#2053 [15:32] <Xerati> uhm
#2054 [15:32] <Xerati> hrm
#2055 [15:32] <Xerati> is /home a link?
#2056 [15:32] <Jayro> this is whati get when i try the google-api.sh
#2057 [15:32] <Xerati> i can't recall
#2058 [15:32] <Jayro> jarred@server:~/c10t/c10t-HEAD/google-api$ sudo sh google-api.sh /home/jarred/Desktop/bin/world /var/www/map
#2059 [15:32] <Jayro> google-api.sh: 5: [[: not found
#2060 [15:32] <Jayro> google-api.sh: 11: SCALE[4096]=6.25%: not found
#2061 [15:32] <Jayro> google-api.sh: 12: SCALE[2048]=12.5%: not found
#2062 [15:32] <Jayro> google-api.sh: 13: SCALE[1024]=25%: not found
#2063 [15:32] <Jayro> google-api.sh: 14: SCALE[512]=50%: not found
#2064 [15:32] <Jayro> google-api.sh: 15: SCALE[256]=100%: not found
#2065 [15:33] <Jayro> google-api.sh: 16: SCALE[128]=200%: not found
#2066 [15:33] <Jayro> google-api.sh: 18: ZOOM[4096]=0: not found
#2067 [15:33] <Kealper> ........
#2068 [15:33] <Jayro> google-api.sh: 19: ZOOM[2048]=1: not found
#2069 [15:33] <Jayro> google-api.sh: 20: ZOOM[1024]=2: not found
#2070 [15:33] <Xerati> rutro
#2071 [15:33] <Jayro> google-api.sh: 21: ZOOM[512]=3: not found
#2072 [15:33] <Jayro> google-api.sh: 22: ZOOM[256]=4: not found
#2073 [15:33] <Jayro> google-api.sh: 45: [[: not found
#2074 [15:33] <Jayro> Not an executable: c10t
#2075 [15:33] <Jayro> jarred@server:~/c10t/c10t-HEAD/google-api$ google-api.sh: 50: c10t: not found
#2076 [15:33] <barrycarlyon> Stop the flood!
#2077 [15:33] <mbentley> might want to use pastebin.com
#2078 [15:33] <Jayro> sorry
#2079 [15:34] <barrycarlyon> Xerati: if home was a link it would/should of given the correct path when pwd'ed. But I think it is.... iirc
#2080 [15:34] <Jayro> alright
#2081 [15:34] <mbentley> Jayro:
#2082 [15:34] <Jayro> well im gonan forget about c10t
#2083 [15:34] <Jayro> yes?
#2084 [15:35] <mbentley> err Jayro: don't do sudo sh
#2085 [15:35] <barrycarlyon> :facepalm:
#2086 [15:35] <mbentley> just ./google-api.sh /home/jarred/Desktop/bin/world /var/www/map
#2087 [15:35] <barrycarlyon> +1 to that
#2088 [15:35] <Jayro> jarred@server:~/c10t/c10t-HEAD/google-api$ ./google-api.sh /home/jarred/Desktop/bin/world /var/www/map
#2089 [15:35] <Jayro> mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/www/map/tiles': Permission denied
#2090 [15:35] <mbentley> or if you run your minecraft server as root, then sudo ./google-api.sh /home/jarred/Desktop/bin/world /var/www/map
#2091 [15:35] <Jayro> thats why i sudo
#2092 [15:36] <mbentley> leave off sh
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#2094 [15:36] <Jayro> ??
#2095 [15:36] <mbentley> sudo ./google-api.sh /home/jarred/Desktop/bin/world /var/www/map
#2096 [15:37] <Jayro> i love you
#2097 [15:37] * Jayro jizzes
#2097 [15:37] <Kealper> oh my
#2098 [15:37] <mbentley> aparently ubuntu actually has /bin/sh and /bin/bash
#2099 [15:38] <mbentley> /bin/sh can't handle matrices from what i can tell from your output
#2100 [15:38] <Jayro> it was good till here
#2101 [15:38] <Jayro> ./c10t: all done!
#2102 [15:38] <Jayro> Log written to /home/jarred/c10t/c10t-HEAD/google-api/c10t.log
#2103 [15:38] <Jayro> convert /var/www/map/tiles/day.0.0.0.src.png -scale 6.25% /var/www/map/tiles/day.0.0.0.png
#2104 [15:38] <Jayro> ./google-api.sh: line 202: convert: command not found
#2105 [15:38] <barrycarlyon> sudo apt-get install ImageMagick
#2106 [15:38] <Diablothein> sudo mbentley make_me_a_sandwich
#2107 [15:38] <mbentley> Jayro: sudo aptitude install imagemagick
#2108 [15:39] <Jayro> kk
#2109 [15:39] <Kealper> Jayro: stop with the multiline pasting into irc please, use a paste service like http://pastebin.com for that
#2110 [15:39] <mbentley> or apt-get, whatever you wnat
#2111 [15:39] <barrycarlyon> Diablothein: is not in the sudoers file, this incident will be reported.
#2112 [15:39] <Diablothein> There is no incident.
#2113 [15:39] * barrycarlyon stands corrected.
#2113 [15:40] <barrycarlyon> Well thats a lie, I'm sat in the bath....
#2114 [15:40] <Diablothein> So, I cracked open a bear and played some TF2
#2115 [15:41] <Jayro> its rendering something over and over again so i assume its working
#2116 [15:41] <Diablothein> http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/crackedopenabear.png
#2117 [15:41] <mbentley> i imagine you will know if it stops working correctly ;)
#2118 [15:41] <barrycarlyon> Jayro: levels of zoom.
#2119 [15:41] <Jayro> awweomse
#2120 [15:42] <Jayro> thank you so much guys!
#2121 [15:42] <mbentley> lol Diablothein
#2122 [15:42] <mbentley> yaylinux
#2123 [15:42] <Jayro> :)
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#2126 [15:52] <barrycarlyon> $50
#2127 [15:53] <Jayro> how can i make c10t render the mao in isometric mode?
#2128 [15:54] <barrycarlyon> c10t --help
#2129 [15:54] <barrycarlyon> rtfm
#2130 [15:54] <mbentley> pretty much
#2131 [15:54] <mbentley> :D
#2132 [15:54] <mbentley> spoiler: -z
#2133 [15:54] <barrycarlyon> Booo
#2134 [15:54] * barrycarlyon throws the manual at mbentley
#2134 [15:54] <mbentley> that's all i am giving you
#2135 [15:54] <barrycarlyon> Teach the user to help themselseves..... :-D
#2136 [15:55] <mbentley> but yeah, the --help is really descriptive
#2137 [15:55] <barrycarlyon> c10t --help | grep isometric
#2138 [15:55] <barrycarlyon> ???
#2139 [15:55] <barrycarlyon> profit
#2140 [15:56] <Diablothein> barry, no, that's now how you do that.
#2141 [15:56] <Diablothein> you use lmgtfy
#2142 [15:56] <Misan> good morning
#2143 [15:57] <Diablothein> g'afternoon
#2144 [15:57] <Misan> we had to reinstall a debian server because we were fucking too much with chmod guo-rwx too and, we saved all "necesary" files before.. also usr/lib/mysql, when we copied everything back to the ftp, also mysql folder, the databases wont appear in phpmyadmin
#2145 [15:57] <Misan> what did we do wrong? :X
#2146 [15:57] <barrycarlyon> good local time
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#2148 [15:57] <barrycarlyon> ask the wrong channel?
#2149 [15:57] <TriGuN> alrighty
#2150 [15:57] <TriGuN> minecraft fucked me over :)
#2151 [15:57] <barrycarlyon> #mysql on freenode
#2152 [15:58] <Misan> ty
#2153 [15:58] <TriGuN> my server died and when it came back i got this
#2154 [15:58] <TriGuN> [SEVERE] Unexpected exception
#2155 [15:58] <TriGuN> java.lang.NullPointerException
#2156 [15:58] <TriGuN> at fm.b(SourceFile:74)
#2157 [15:58] <TriGuN> at ff.a(SourceFile:1596)
#2158 [15:58] <TriGuN> at kx.d(SourceFile:459)
#2159 [15:58] <TriGuN> at ks.d(SourceFile:89)
#2160 [15:58] <TriGuN> at ks.b(SourceFile:110)
#2161 [15:58] <TriGuN> at ff.c(SourceFile:385)
#2162 [15:58] <TriGuN> at ff.a(SourceFile:347)
#2163 [15:58] <TriGuN> at ff.e(SourceFile:351)
#2164 [15:58] <TriGuN> at ff.a(SourceFile:263)
#2165 [15:58] <TriGuN> at jm.a(SourceFile:52)
#2166 [15:58] <TriGuN> at ff.<init>(SourceFile:236)
#2167 [15:58] <TriGuN> at fm.<init>(SourceFile:24)
#2168 [15:58] <TriGuN> at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.c(SourceFile:150)
#2169 [15:58] <TriGuN> at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.d(SourceFile:141)
#2170 [15:58] <TriGuN> at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(SourceFile:197)
#2171 [15:58] <TriGuN> at cj.run(SourceFile:490)
#2172 [15:58] <barrycarlyon> Noooo I have a inb4kealper lined up
#2173 [15:58] <mbentley> lol
#2174 [15:58] <Diablothein> Har har Kealper
#2175 [15:59] <Kealper> man...what the hell is with people and just pasting 20 billion lines into irc today
#2176 [15:59] <clone1018> TriGuN, Dont paste in here
#2177 [16:00] <mbentley> mmmm paste...
#2178 [16:00] <TriGuN> sorry/
#2179 [16:00] <TriGuN> lawl but my server was all like hey fuck you
#2180 [16:00] <mbentley> pastebin.com is your friend
#2181 [16:00] <Diablothein> pastebin.
#2182 [16:00] <Diablothein> >.>
#2183 [16:00] <TriGuN> fair enough.
#2184 [16:01] <TriGuN> http://pastebin.com/8AqFZsXX
#2185 [16:01] <TriGuN> if that makes it anybetter
#2186 [16:01] <Diablothein> atta boy
#2187 [16:01] <TriGuN> anyone have any idea how i would fix?
#2188 [16:04] <TriGuN> =\
#2189 [16:04] <Kealper> looks like just a random crash/error to me
#2190 [16:04] <Kealper> does it get it a lot? or just that once?
#2191 [16:05] <thereddeh> <3
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#2194 [16:07] <[TC]sp39> I never got hacked or changed my password, but haven't been able to log in for months.
#2195 [16:07] <[TC]sp39> What to do?
#2196 [16:07] <Kealper> [TC]sp39: what does it tell you?
#2197 [16:07] <Xerati> hack it back
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#2200 [16:09] <[TC]sp39> lemme grab errror
#2201 [16:09] <[TC]sp39> Failed to log in. Wrong username and/or password. - trying to log in
#2202 [16:09] <[TC]sp39> Failed to send email: javax.mail.SendFailedException: Invalid Addresses; nested exception is: com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPAddressFailedException: 550 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table - recovering password
#2203 [16:09] <[TC]sp39> with username
#2204 [16:10] <Xerati> the email isn't valid
#2205 [16:10] <[TC]sp39> Couldn't find that user. - using my email
#2206 [16:10] <Kealper> then you must have typed your email wrong when you signed up
#2207 [16:10] <Xerati> ^^
#2208 [16:10] <[TC]sp39> It worked before
#2209 [16:10] <[TC]sp39> o3o
#2210 [16:10] <Xerati> yeah but i deleted the email when i stole it
#2211 [16:10] <[TC]sp39> ohsnap
#2212 [16:10] <Xerati> :O!?
#2213 [16:11] <[TC]sp39> ‽‽‽
#2214 [16:11] <Kealper> eh?
#2215 [16:11] <barrycarlyon> profit
#2216 [16:12] <Jayro> how can i prevent chuck errors that cause random cliffs?
#2217 [16:12] <[TC]sp39> oh you
#2218 [16:12] <TriGuN> kealper every load it does that
#2219 [16:13] <Kealper> TriGuN: have you tried with a new map? the map could be bad
#2220 [16:13] <TriGuN> hrm.
#2221 [16:13] <TriGuN> yeah but then we lose everthing
#2222 [16:13] <Kealper> Jayro: you can't really
#2223 [16:13] <TriGuN> the map was good
#2224 [16:13] <TriGuN> then my computer died
#2225 [16:13] <Kealper> TriGuN: just rename the world folder to something elese and start the server back up
#2226 [16:13] <TriGuN> i did that
#2227 [16:13] <barrycarlyon> I think that is just server lag.
#2228 [16:13] <Kealper> then the map is probably toast
#2229 [16:13] <TriGuN> and it starts fine
#2230 [16:13] <TriGuN> how could i fix it?
#2231 [16:14] <barrycarlyon> Chunks not loading that is.
#2232 [16:14] <barrycarlyon> Laggy server is laggy.
#2233 [16:14] <Kealper> if the map has corrupt spots, there is no way to fix that
#2234 [16:14] <TriGuN> hrm
#2235 [16:14] <Xerati> mine is laggy when i'm downloading 15gb of torrents at lightning speeds
#2236 [16:14] <Xerati> kekekeke
#2237 [16:14] <Jayro> but can i prevent them??
#2238 [16:14] <TriGuN> couldnt i just edit the map?
#2239 [16:15] <barrycarlyon> TriGuN: its not a borken chunk, the server just hadn't loaded it.
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#2241 [16:15] <Kealper> TriGuN: you could, if you could figure out exactly which chunk is causing the error, you could just delete it and the server would generate a new one
#2242 [16:15] <Kealper> wait
#2243 [16:15] <Kealper> crap
#2244 [16:15] <Kealper> i'm getting confused here
#2245 [16:15] <TriGuN> well i think i have an idea of what it is.
#2246 [16:15] <Kealper> Jayro: i'm 50% positive that message i directed at TriGuN was meant for you.
#2247 [16:16] <Kealper> lol
#2248 [16:16] <TriGuN> lol
#2249 [16:16] <Jayro> is there anyway of knowing what chuck it is?
#2250 [16:17] <Jayro> maybe a server plugin for admins??
#2251 [16:17] <Xerati> hehe
#2252 [16:17] <Xerati> my map had a couple corrupt spots
#2253 [16:17] <Xerati> and it moved the spawn 200 blocks away as well
#2254 [16:17] <Xerati> and put a mountain chunk THROUGH my base
#2255 [16:17] <Xerati> my door and chests were just gone
#2256 [16:17] <Jayro> lol
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#2258 [16:17] <Xerati> i was inside the base when i loaded it with corruption
#2259 [16:18] <Xerati> the 'wall' was right in front of me
#2260 [16:18] <Xerati> and i'm like...wtf someone blocked my door
#2261 [16:18] <Xerati> tunneled out
#2262 [16:18] <Xerati> WTF?!?!?
#2263 [16:18] <Jayro> hhhahahahaha x]
#2264 [16:18] * Kealper smells bean soup
#2264 [16:18] <TriGuN> =\
#2265 [16:18] <Xerati> Kealper, my bad
#2266 [16:19] <Xerati> farts just squeeze out sometimes
#2267 [16:19] <TriGuN> so could anyone help? is it un corruptable
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#2269 [16:19] <Xerati> TriGuN, if you don't have a backup
#2270 [16:19] <Xerati> and it became corrupted....
#2271 [16:19] <Xerati> well, it's corrupted
#2272 [16:19] <TriGuN> i do have a bbackup
#2273 [16:19] <Kealper> you are..quite literally...screwed
#2274 [16:19] <Xerati> restore i tthen
#2275 [16:19] <TriGuN> how?
#2276 [16:19] <Kealper> restore the backup
#2277 [16:19] <Xerati> but you'll lose any recent changes
#2278 [16:19] * Xerati facepalms
#2278 [16:19] <TriGuN> =\
#2279 [16:19] <Xerati> how did you back it up?
#2280 [16:19] <Kealper> because there is no way to uncorrupt a chunk unless you know exactly what chunk it is
#2281 [16:20] <TriGuN> there are . baks
#2282 [16:20] <TriGuN> of it
#2283 [16:20] <Xerati> ok
#2284 [16:20] <TriGuN> wouldnt that count?
#2285 [16:20] <Xerati> rename the non .bak version to .corrupt
#2286 [16:20] <Xerati> and rename the .bak to ....not .bak
#2287 [16:24] <thereddeh> or just start over
#2288 [16:25] <Jayro> look at all my random chunks... http://jarred.servegame.com/map/
#2289 [16:25] <thereddeh> streetview doesnt work ;p
#2290 [16:25] <Jayro> lol
#2291 [16:26] <barrycarlyon> Let me send a streetview car over.
#2292 [16:26] <Jayro> i see it now
#2293 [16:29] <sutadesign> does Minecraft server run smoother on 32bit linux or 64bit?
#2294 [16:29] <Xerati> yeah
#2295 [16:29] <thereddeh> lol
#2296 [16:29] <thereddeh> good answer
#2297 [16:29] <sutadesign> I am only asking because I didn't know if there were any known issues
#2298 [16:29] <Xerati> only clientside afaik
#2299 [16:30] <Xerati> most issues aren't bit related except for client side java issues
#2300 [16:30] <Xerati> server wise it's memory/cpu/network
#2301 [16:30] <Xerati> and random crap like mods
#2302 [16:31] <sutadesign> ok thanks, also do you know anyway to block client side mods, like recipe mod and item mods
#2303 [16:31] <Jayro> does c10t save old pics or overwrite them?
#2304 [16:31] <Xerati> with the server side inventory, i'd assume those not work so well anymore
#2305 [16:32] <sutadesign> somehow people still are doing it, guess we have to wait for a patch
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#2308 [16:43] <mbentley> Jayro: it overwrites them
#2309 [16:44] <Xerati> like a bauss
#2310 [16:44] <mbentley> you can make it so it doesn't but with the google maps api, you would have to point it to a new directory every time
#2311 [16:44] <Xerati> or just take backups periodically
#2312 [16:44] <mbentley> if you just run c10t to output a single image, then you can append the date to it
#2313 [16:46] <Kealper> glados why do you call your other client SMB? lol
#2314 [16:47] <Super_Meat_Boy> it was the first link linked
#2315 [16:47] <Kealper> wut?
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#2317 [17:08] <Jayro> how do i make c10t render in isometric mode? i cant find parameters annywhere
#2318 [17:09] <mbentley> 15:55 < barrycarlyon> c10t --help | grep isometric
#2319 [17:09] <Jayro> i guess what works x]
#2320 [17:09] <Jayro> i didnt see that earlier
#2321 [17:09] <Jayro> sry
#2322 [17:10] <mbentley> it's ok
#2323 [17:10] <mbentley> grep is your friend
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#2325 [17:15] <mib_fde27x> how do i start a new game in multiplayer
#2326 [17:15] <Kealper> do you have the server downloaded and running?
#2327 [17:16] <mib_fde27x> ya
#2328 [17:16] <mib_fde27x> it works
#2329 [17:16] <mib_fde27x> i jus wanna start over
#2330 [17:16] <Kealper> oh
#2331 [17:16] <Kealper> stop the server, delete the world folder, and start it again
#2332 [17:16] <Xerati> or
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#2334 [17:16] <Xerati> instead of deleting it, rename it or change the world name in the properties
#2335 [17:16] <Kealper> it will generate a new world and everyone starts from scratch
#2336 [17:16] <mib_fde27x> thnx
#2337 [17:16] <Kealper> or what he said
#2338 [17:16] <Xerati> if you keep maps like me :P
#2339 [17:17] <Xerati> i have like 15
#2340 [17:17] <Xerati> lol
#2341 [17:17] <Kealper> i just rar my old ones with higest compression enabled lol
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#2343 [17:22] <mib_4x8a8q> cant i enter the nether in multiplayer?
#2344 [17:22] <Kealper> no
#2345 [17:22] <Kealper> it does not work for smp right now
#2346 [17:22] <mib_4x8a8q> cock :p
#2347 [17:22] <Kealper> indeed
#2348 [17:23] <thereddeh> night yall
#2349 [17:31] <Jayro> what cause chunk errors?
#2350 [17:32] <Kealper> Jayro: anything that disrupts a chunk from being saved properly can do it
#2351 [17:32] <Jayro> what can i do prevent them?
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#2353 [17:33] <mbentley> Jayro: if you are trying to run c10t on your server while it performs a chunk save, it can mess up. running 'save-all' then 'save-off' before executing the c10t command will help that
#2354 [17:33] <mbentley> you would then need to run 'save-on' after it has finished
#2355 [17:34] <Jayro> ohkay, good to know
#2356 [17:34] * Kealper erases all that stuff he was typing, because he was ninja'd hard
#2356 [17:34] <mbentley> lol
#2357 [17:34] <BLKOUT> Hi all, I have the following problem: I buyed Minecraft, but when i start it and i put my right Login Name and Password in. It says "Bad Login". But on the computer of my friend, i can login easily.
#2358 [17:35] <Kealper> BLKOUT: are you sure you are typing it correctly? and can you log in to minecraft.net?
#2359 [17:35] <BLKOUT> yes i know that im typing correctly. I tried reinstalling the game and changing password multiple times. On minecraft.net i can login
#2360 [17:36] <Kealper> BLKOUT: what internet browser did you try logging in to the site on?
#2361 [17:36] <BLKOUT> mozilla firefox
#2362 [17:37] <Kealper> try logging in on internet explorer
#2363 [17:37] <Kealper> if it does not work at all, then i think i know what is wrong
#2364 [17:38] <BLKOUT> nono, i can login in internet explorer. In mozilla firefox it works too, but on the downloaded minecraft client i can't login :/
#2365 [17:38] <mbentley> BLKOUT: you might want to go to %appdata% (winxp - start > run type '%appdata%'; vista/7 - start > type '%appdata%' and delete the .minecraft directory
#2366 [17:38] <mbentley> unless you have saved worlds
#2367 [17:38] <Kealper> what he said
#2368 [17:38] <mbentley> if you do, you might want to back up the .minecraft folder (aka - just rename it)
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#2370 [17:39] <Kealper> if he just deletes the bin folder in .minecraft it will force it to redownload everything
#2371 [17:39] <Lydia> Excuse me, I would like some help with a server. (My friend is trying to set one up.)
#2372 [17:39] <BLKOUT> okay thx im trying it
#2373 [17:39] <mbentley> true, true
#2374 [17:39] <Kealper> Lydia: what part is your friend having trouble with?
#2375 [17:40] <Lydia> He said, he "needs to forward his port, somehow..."
#2376 [17:40] <Kealper> have him go to http://portforward.com
#2377 [17:40] <Lydia> Okay
#2378 [17:40] <Kealper> that site has almost every router model, and shows how to forward for a minecraft server
#2379 [17:40] <Lydia> Thanks!
#2380 [17:41] <Kealper> and now i bid you all adiu, documentaries are calling
#2381 [17:45] <BLKOUT> sorry i have to annoy you shortly again. I deleted the .minecraft folder and started minecraft again, but it says Bad Login anyways. I remembered one other thing. On the minecraft.net page i can't see my player model.
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#2383 [17:46] <Costly> hey
#2384 [17:48] <Costly> i need some help in getting my dedicated minecraft server running, anyone here who got some time in assisting me with answering some questions?
#2385 [17:48] <mbentley> just ask
#2386 [17:48] <Costly> and btw: i do have server administration knowledge^^
#2387 [17:48] <Costly> k
#2388 [17:49] <Costly> well the problem is, ... i downloaded the server jar in the zip file, unzipped it etc.
#2389 [17:49] <Costly> then i tried running it
#2390 [17:49] <Costly> linux host btw
#2391 [17:50] <Costly> then i realized all the *.txt were missing
#2392 [17:50] <Costly> those should be included in that zipfile, or?
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#2394 [17:51] <Costly> after trying to run it the first time it seems the jar created all of those files, but they're empty
#2395 [17:51] <Costly> like admins.txt, players.txt and server.properties
#2396 [17:51] <Costly> s
#2397 [17:51] <Costly> any suggestions where to get those configs?
#2398 [17:52] <mbentley> you run the server, it creates them
#2399 [17:52] <Costly> yeah, but they're empty
#2400 [17:52] <mbentley> try stopping the server and starting it again
#2401 [17:52] <mbentley> they will be except for server.properties
#2402 [17:53] <Costly> it didn't start, just threw an exception because of the missing files
#2403 [17:53] <mbentley> that's ok
#2404 [17:53] <mbentley> it should create them
#2405 [17:53] <Costly> yes it did
#2406 [17:53] <mbentley> then stop/start it and it shouldn't do it again
#2407 [17:53] <Costly> ah ok
#2408 [17:53] <Costly> mom
#2409 [17:54] <Costly> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: method java.util.Properties.load with signature (Ljava.io.Reader;)V was not found.
#2410 [17:54] <Costly> but that's no wonder imo when all the configs are empty
#2411 [17:54] <Costly> especially the server.properties
#2412 [17:55] <mbentley> what version of java? (ie - output of 'java -version'
#2413 [17:55] <Costly> minecraft@vps29021:~$ java -version
#2414 [17:55] <Costly> java version "1.5.0"
#2415 [17:55] <Costly> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.3.2
#2416 [17:55] <mbentley> that is why
#2417 [17:55] <mbentley> you need 1.6+
#2418 [17:55] <Costly> ah k
#2419 [17:55] <mbentley> and the sun java jre is suggested
#2420 [17:55] <Costly> ty, brb in some minutes^^
#2421 [17:55] <mbentley> np :)
#2422 [17:57] <Jayro> is there a save i can issue the save-off command from an .sh ?
#2423 [17:57] <mbentley> that depends Jayro
#2424 [17:57] <mbentley> how are you running the server?
#2425 [17:58] <Jayro> with minecraft-sheller
#2426 [17:59] <Costly> minecraft@vps29021:~$ java -version
#2427 [17:59] <Costly> java version "1.6.0_22"
#2428 [17:59] <Costly> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)
#2429 [17:59] <Costly> here we go
#2430 [17:59] <Costly> let's try it again
#2431 [17:59] <mbentley> much better
#2432 [17:59] <Costly> running :) now i'll do some config editing, thanks mbentley
#2433 [17:59] <mbentley> no prob
#2434 [18:00] <Jayro> so is there a way i can issue console commands from an .sh ??
#2435 [18:00] <Jayro> running hmod with monecraft-sheller
#2436 [18:00] <Jayro> minecraft*
#2437 [18:00] <mbentley> i am not familiar with minecraft-sheller
#2438 [18:01] <mbentley> i just run minecraft server in a screen session
#2439 [18:01] <Jayro> i just use it as an autpmated backup tool
#2440 [18:01] <Jayro> thats basicly what im doing, but with some things added
#2441 [18:01] <mbentley> if it runs in a screen command, then yes, you can
#2442 [18:01] <Jayro> can you tell me how?
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#2444 [18:01] <mbentley> yes
#2445 [18:02] <Jayro> yay :)
#2446 [18:02] <mbentley> you will need to change $sn but here it is >> screen -S $sn -t $sn -X stuff "`echo -e \"save-all\r\"`"
#2447 [18:03] <mbentley> $sn is just a variable for my script. it is the name of the screen session
#2448 [18:03] <mbentley> if you want to run a different command, just replace the save-all. it is important to leave the rest intact
#2449 [18:04] <Costly> it's just port 25565 tcp, right?
#2450 [18:04] <mbentley> yes
#2451 [18:04] <Costly> k
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#2455 [18:09] <Jayro> so change $sn to what?
#2456 [18:09] <mbentley> the name of your screen session
#2457 [18:09] <mbentley> do a 'screen -ls'
#2458 [18:09] <Jayro> okay thanks!
#2459 [18:09] <mbentley> mine says 15550.octeams2(01/03/2011 10:13:54 AM)(Detached)
#2460 [18:09] <mbentley> the name is 'octeams2'
#2461 [18:10] <Jayro> okay thanks
#2462 [18:10] <Costly> you know what i hate about screen? you cant start a screen session/attack to a running if you su-'ed to the user
#2463 [18:10] <Costly> *attach
#2464 [18:10] <mbentley> well you can
#2465 [18:10] <Costly> you have to directly login with that user
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#2467 [18:10] <Costly> orly?
#2468 [18:11] <mbentley> rly
#2469 [18:11] <Costly> how?
#2470 [18:11] <mbentley> you have to chown a directory... one sec
#2471 [18:12] <mbentley> like you will get this >> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/3' - please check.
#2472 [18:12] <Costly> yep
#2473 [18:12] <Costly> that's exactly the prob
#2474 [18:13] <mbentley> if you got that same message, you would need to chown /dev/pts/3 to the username you su 'd to
#2475 [18:15] <Costly> that worked, i guess i need to redo that every time i logged in
#2476 [18:15] <Jayro> if i have "sudo" in a script that will run at 6am everymorning, will i have to type in the root password?
#2477 [18:16] <mbentley> yes
#2478 [18:16] <mbentley> unless you set a certain command to not need a password by that user
#2479 [18:16] <Jayro> how do i do that?
#2480 [18:16] <mbentley> man visudo
#2481 [18:16] <Jayro> ?
#2482 [18:16] <Costly> ^^
#2483 [18:16] <Jayro> lol
#2484 [18:16] <mbentley> type man visudo
#2485 [18:16] <mbentley> aka rtfm :)
#2486 [18:17] <Costly> hrhr
#2487 [18:17] <Jayro> lololol
#2488 [18:17] <Costly> how much memory does minecraft "need"? default it seems to take a huge amount Oo
#2489 [18:17] <Costly> nearly 450mb
#2490 [18:17] <mbentley> the server or client?
#2491 [18:17] <Costly> server
#2492 [18:17] <mbentley> well it depends on how you start the jar
#2493 [18:18] <mbentley> -Xmx and -Xms
#2494 [18:18] <Costly> didn't add any, so it's default
#2495 [18:18] <mbentley> err
#2496 [18:18] <Costly> that's why i asked how much it needs
#2497 [18:18] <Diablothein> is it normal for leaves to decay and leave their shadows on the ground?
#2498 [18:19] <Costly> i'm new into mc but i guess 1) yes 2) no
#2499 [18:19] <Jayro> i dont understand visudo..
#2500 [18:20] <mbentley> then google
#2501 [18:20] <mbentley> 'linux visudo command no password'
#2502 [18:20] <Jayro> but u know the command, and it would only take a second for u to type it ;)
#2503 [18:20] <mbentley> that should help
#2504 [18:20] <Jayro> kk :P
#2505 [18:20] <mbentley> i don't know it
#2506 [18:20] <mbentley> but i know it can be done
#2507 [18:20] <Jayro> ohh :
#2508 [18:20] <Costly> http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/visudo.man.html
#2509 [18:20] <mbentley> i would just google ;)
#2510 [18:20] <Costly> it's just a tool to edit the sudoers
#2511 [18:21] <Costly> what memory parameters do you use mbentley?
#2512 [18:21] <Costly> 450m seems way too much for me
#2513 [18:22] <mbentley> i just do 'java -Xmx1536M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui'
#2514 [18:22] <Costly> what is nogui for?
#2515 [18:22] <mbentley> no gui
#2516 [18:22] <Costly> :-D
#2517 [18:22] <Costly> does the server has an web gui?
#2518 [18:22] <mbentley> no
#2519 [18:22] <Costly> what gui then?
#2520 [18:23] <mbentley> if you are running an X session, it will throw up a console window
#2521 [18:23] <Costly> ah k
#2522 [18:23] <Costly> i'm not running x ^^
#2523 [18:23] <Costly> so
#2524 [18:23] <Costly> 1,5gb...
#2525 [18:24] <Costly> didn't i read somethimg minecraft server isn't memory hungry and you can run it on any low budget vps?^^
#2526 [18:24] <mbentley> mine doesn't get that high
#2527 [18:24] <mbentley> i just have a lot of ram that isn't doing anything :D
#2528 [18:25] <Costly> how many slots do you run on that 1,5gb?
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#2530 [18:25] <mbentley> i haven't had more than 6 people on mine so i don't know
#2531 [18:25] <Costly> can you look how much memory it is comsuming right now?
#2532 [18:26] <jcollis> heyy i need some help with the game purchase
#2533 [18:27] <Visiiri> jcollis, what is the problem?
#2534 [18:27] <Jayro> thanks i got visudo to work!
#2535 [18:27] <mbentley> 151M reserved @ 0 players
#2536 [18:27] <Costly> k
#2537 [18:28] <Costly> when i'm trying to connect i get this message on server output:
#2538 [18:28] <Costly> 00:27:49 /78.94.169.68 connected
#2539 [18:28] <Costly> 00:27:54 Kicking /78.94.169.68: You need to log in!
#2540 [18:28] <Costly> 00:27:54 /78.94.169.68 disconnected
#2541 [18:28] <jcollis> well i have payed for the game a fair while ago nearly mor than 2 weeks
#2542 [18:28] <Costly> and then an "minecraft has crashed" message on the client
#2543 [18:28] <Costly> paypal?
#2544 [18:28] <jcollis> still havent recieved an email or preimum
#2545 [18:29] <mbentley> Costly: are you running this on the same system as the server?
#2546 [18:29] <mbentley> the client on the same as the server
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#2548 [18:29] <Costly> nope, server -> dedicated linux machine
#2549 [18:29] <Costly> client my windows box here
#2550 [18:29] <mbentley> Costly: try the local ip, not the wan
#2551 [18:29] <Costly> uuhmm
#2552 [18:29] <Costly> the server isn't local
#2553 [18:30] <Costly> you can try to connect too
#2554 [18:30] <Costly> costly-got-root.de
#2555 [18:30] <Costly> i'll post the message i got on the serversessionoutput here
#2556 [18:31] <Costly> ahhh
#2557 [18:31] <Costly> mhh
#2558 [18:31] <Costly> when i'm connecting in browser it works
#2559 [18:31] <Costly> but with my standalone client i get those errors
#2560 [18:32] <Costly> you tried it, right?
#2561 [18:32] <Jayro> mbentley: this should work right? http://pastebin.com/zxkKLDGK
#2562 [18:33] <mbentley> ah
#2563 [18:33] <mbentley> hmm, crashed
#2564 [18:33] <Costly> yep
#2565 [18:33] <Costly> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=64200ab3dcbedfa02cf7ee569c1996d4
#2566 [18:33] <Costly> try this
#2567 [18:33] <Costly> it will work
#2568 [18:33] <Costly> 00:31:43 /76.29.4.xx connected
#2569 [18:33] <Costly> 00:31:48 Kicking /76.29.4.xx: You need to log in!
#2570 [18:33] <Costly> 00:31:48 /76.29.4.xx disconnected
#2571 [18:34] <Costly> got that message from your connect
#2572 [18:34] <BLKOUT> is someone there to help?
#2573 [18:34] <Costly> wtf netsplit
#2574 [18:34] <mbentley> Costly: trying to login again
#2575 [18:34] <barrycarlyon> netsplit
#2576 [18:34] <Costly> with my standalone client?
#2577 [18:35] <mbentley> oh, you are playing classic?
#2578 [18:35] <mbentley> you are running a classic server
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#2604 [18:35] <Costly> mhh do i?
#2605 [18:35] <Costly> lol
#2606 [18:35] <Costly> tbh i purchased minecraft a week ago
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#2608 [18:35] <mbentley> !server
#2609 [18:35] <Jayro> x]
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#2668 [18:35] <Costly> ahh lol i guess i got the wrong server jar
#2669 [18:36] <Costly> i copied the url from a forum howto
#2670 [18:36] <mbentley> yeah, you need the one from here >> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2671 [18:36] <mbentley> :D
#2672 [18:36] <Costly> :-D
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#2676 [18:37] <Diablothein> Netsplit much?
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#2678 [18:38] <Jayro> mbentley: this should work right? http://pastebin.com/zxkKLDGK
#2679 [18:38] <Jayro> ?
#2680 [18:39] <Costly> ahhh here we go, works now ;)
#2681 [18:39] <Costly> but it's laggy like hell
#2682 [18:39] <mbentley> looks good Jayro
#2683 [18:39] <Jayro> thx
#2684 [18:39] <Costly> ah now it's better
#2685 [18:39] <Costly> can you try it?
#2686 [18:39] <mbentley> sure
#2687 [18:39] <Costly> to connect
#2688 [18:41] <mbentley> did you delete everything the old classic server generated?
#2689 [18:41] <mbentley> before just starting the new one?
#2690 [18:41] <Costly> nope didn't deleted the txt's
#2691 [18:41] <mbentley> oh wait
#2692 [18:41] <mbentley> there it logged me in
#2693 [18:41] <Costly> 2011-01-04 00:41:01 [INFO] Disconnecting /76.29.4.xx:49403: Took too long to log in
#2694 [18:41] <mbentley> it's ok, you don't need to hide my ip
#2695 [18:41] <mbentley> :D
#2696 [18:42] <Costly> ^^
#2697 [18:42] <Costly> whats the shortkey for the chat?
#2698 [18:45] <Lydia> Costly, go into options and then into controls
#2699 [18:45] <Lydia> You can go and set the key for it. I personally have it for C.
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#2701 [18:52] <Costly> oops
#2702 [18:52] <Costly> ^^
#2703 [18:53] <mbentley> lol
#2704 [18:53] <Costly> closed the putty windows and forgot it didn't started it in a screen session^^
#2705 [18:53] <claudis> i can't seem to give myself or other people any resources or items. i've tried /give claudis 45 200 but it fails :(
#2706 [18:53] <claudis> any ideas?
#2707 [18:53] <mbentley> yo need to be op or admin
#2708 [18:53] <mbentley> *you
#2709 [18:54] <mbentley> might try 1-64 instead of 200
#2710 [18:54] <claudis> i'm op :)
#2711 [18:54] <claudis> my server lol
#2712 [18:55] <claudis> doesn't work either :(
#2713 [18:55] <mbentley> look on the command console to see what it happening?
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#2715 [18:56] <claudis> it says i tried the command
#2716 [18:56] <mbentley> then you aren't op
#2717 [18:56] <claudis> how i become of on my own server lol
#2718 [18:57] <mbentley> if you changed the op.txt file while it is running, it doesn't make you op
#2719 [18:57] <Costly> same here btw
#2720 [18:57] <claudis> doh!
#2721 [18:57] <claudis> silly me
#2722 [18:57] <mbentley> and it is actually ops.txt, sorry
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#2724 [18:58] <claudis> <-- Noobcake
#2725 [18:59] <claudis> TY mbentley
#2726 [18:59] <Costly> yeah ty! :-D
#2727 [18:59] <mbentley> lol np
#2728 [18:59] <Costly> was ops.txt not admins.txt
#2729 [18:59] <mbentley> admins.txt makes you admin
#2730 [18:59] <mbentley> nearly the same commands
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#2732 [19:00] <Costly> tp didn't work that's what i tried with you
#2733 [19:00] <mbentley> let me log back on....
#2734 [19:00] <Costly> sure
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#2740 [19:12] <SoulTheif> hey, can I get some help?
#2741 [19:12] <SoulTheif> or info I mean
#2742 [19:12] <aetherian> no.
#2743 [19:12] <aetherian> :)
#2744 [19:12] <SoulTheif> lol
#2745 [19:12] <SoulTheif> troll
#2746 [19:13] <aetherian> oh well then by all means go ahead
#2747 [19:13] <aetherian> moi?
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#2749 [19:13] <SoulTheif> alright, my friend and I were going to create a minecraft beta server but we were curious if mobs spawn yet in multiplayer?... and yeah because I thought you were trying to troll me
#2750 [19:14] <mbentley> yes they do if you have them enabled
#2751 [19:14] <aetherian> no.
#2752 [19:14] <aetherian> just using sarcasm
#2753 [19:14] <aetherian> I mean
#2754 [19:14] <aetherian> this is #minecrafthelp, of course you can't get help.
#2755 [19:15] <SoulTheif> yay! Thank you... and oh I see I didn't understand lol
#2756 [19:15] <aetherian> in minecraft
#2757 [19:15] <aetherian> mmmmmobviously
#2758 [19:16] <SoulTheif> In multiplayer are there still things that are not craftable or have a lot of glitches?... I played it a while ago and I couldn't build anything and everything was glitchy
#2759 [19:18] <barrycarlyon> cake?
#2760 [19:18] <barrycarlyon> Where is Pie?
#2761 [19:18] <SoulTheif> what?
#2762 [19:20] <mbentley> in for cake
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#2767 [19:33] <Jegerdum> Hi, im having issues starting Minecraft on Ubuntu 10.10. It starts fine but exits without warning some time after logging in, before actually entering the game. anyone have any idea what i can do?
#2768 [19:34] <mbentley> like what exactly are you doing?
#2769 [19:34] <[JD]> maybe java is crashing? check the console log perhaps
#2770 [19:34] <[JD]> idk how to do that with linux :P
#2771 [19:35] <Jegerdum> well, when i try to start it from terminal i get this: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Minecraft/jar Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Minecraft.jar at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader
#2772 [19:35] <[JD]> have you updated java to the most recent one?
#2773 [19:35] <mbentley> output of java -version ?
#2774 [19:36] <mbentley> ubuntu prolly doesn't ship with the sun java jre
#2775 [19:36] <mbentley> yeah, i know java java runtime...
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#2777 [19:37] <Jegerdum> hmm. ok it says openJDK, but i start the game from right clicking it and choosing sun
#2778 [19:37] <Jegerdum> i uninstalled open, but installed sun first. is this where the fuckup is?
#2779 [19:38] <[JD]> the uninstall could have removed some libraries perhaps
#2780 [19:38] <Jegerdum> hmm
#2781 [19:38] <mbentley> eh, should be separate
#2782 [19:38] <[JD]> :P
#2783 [19:39] <Jegerdum> but why do java -version output openJDK when i uninstalled it
#2784 [19:39] <Jegerdum> hmm
#2785 [19:39] <mbentley> becuase it isn't set to the default
#2786 [19:40] <[JD]> reinstall/reboot
#2787 [19:40] <[JD]> :P
#2788 [19:40] <[JD]> lol
#2789 [19:40] <mbentley> debian distros use /usr/bin/java and that is a symlink to the actual location
#2790 [19:40] <mbentley> update-alternatives --config java (as root)
#2791 [19:41] <mbentley> or sudo update-alternatives --config java
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#2793 [19:41] <mbentley> choose the one with 'java-6-sun/jre'
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#2795 [19:41] <Jegerdum> nice, found a page about it on ubuntu forums aswell, thx. still wont help me with the actual problem imo. but it will give me a terminal log:)
#2796 [19:42] <pischto> What is up with the random crashing in SMP ? On my server 3 players seem to have this problem, but not me. Apparently their game just freezes - no errors
#2797 [19:42] <aetherian> good..... bye.... *hurk*
#2798 [19:42] <mbentley> black screen?
#2799 [19:43] <pischto> Think so
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#2801 [19:43] <mbentley> i don't believe there is a fix for that
#2802 [19:43] <mbentley> i get the same thing on windows 7
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#2804 [19:44] <pischto> We are all running win7, guess i'm lucky (:
#2805 [19:45] <ConMan8> ?
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#2807 [19:50] <DeathProof> I have a question about payment of the game and being upgraded.
#2808 [19:51] <DeathProof> I bought the game Dec. 27 and received the online receipt from my bank in an Email confirming the purchase.
#2809 [19:51] <DeathProof> But I still haven't been upgraded. Is this normal or should I just be patient
#2810 [19:52] <mbentley> have you sent an email to support?
#2811 [19:53] <DeathProof> Yeah I sent an email like 3 days ago asking what should happen and still haven't gotten an email back. Maybe I put the wrong email or something.
#2812 [19:53] <DeathProof> payment@mojang.com right?
#2813 [19:53] <mbentley> yeah
#2814 [19:54] <DeathProof> Yeah. That
#2815 [19:54] <DeathProof> That's the one I sent it to.
#2816 [19:54] <mbentley> not sure what else you can do besides send another
#2817 [19:56] <DeathProof> Hmm....Thanks for your help.
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#2819 [20:00] <Jegerdum> hmm, i got sun set as default java env. and now have a crash log. quite a long one^^ pasted it here http://justpaste.it/73q anyone have a clue?
#2820 [20:01] <mbentley> try 'java -Xmx1024M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame'
#2821 [20:04] <Jegerdum> same result:S
#2822 [20:05] <mbentley> odd
#2823 [20:05] <Jegerdum> idd
#2824 [20:05] <Jegerdum> and i reinstalled sun java just to be sure
#2825 [20:05] <mbentley> might try to redownload the .jar http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.jar
#2826 [20:05] <mbentley> java -version ?
#2827 [20:06] <Jegerdum> java version "1.6.0_22" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04) Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode)
#2828 [20:06] <mbentley> server vm
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#2830 [20:07] <Jegerdum> ?
#2831 [20:07] <mbentley> did you install sun-java6-jre ?
#2832 [20:07] <mbentley> or sun-java6-bin ?
#2833 [20:07] <Jegerdum> both are installed
#2834 [20:08] <mbentley> try 'java -Xmx1024M -client -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame'
#2835 [20:09] <Jegerdum> it crashes even faster with that one
#2836 [20:10] <mbentley> hmm, and does the client give you an ouput? the console output might be a little too in depth
#2837 [20:10] <Jegerdum> just closes down.
#2838 [20:11] <mbentley> are you trying to start minecraft.jar or Minecraft.jar ?
#2839 [20:11] <Jegerdum> M
#2840 [20:12] <Jegerdum> wouldnt have started at all with a small m if im not mistaken
#2841 [20:12] <mbentley> just making sure you aren't trying to start the one in ~/.minecraft/bin/
#2842 [20:12] <Jegerdum> ah
#2843 [20:12] <mbentley> because that isn't the correct one.
#2844 [20:13] <Jegerdum> i appreciate your time btw. really nice that ppl help out like this:)
#2845 [20:13] <mbentley> it's no problem
#2846 [20:13] <mbentley> :)
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#2849 [20:16] <Segata_Sanshiro> asobi no michi ni tamashii kometa hitori no otoko ga kyou mo yuku majime ni asobanu yatsura ni wa karada de oboe saseru zo Segata Sanshirou Segata Sanshirou Sega Saturn, shiro!
#2850 [20:16] <Segata_Sanshiro> tenisu ya karaoke nanpa ni kurabu hoka ni suru koto aru darou ga murenakya asobenu yatsura ni wa kokoro ni toi kakeru zo Segata Sanshirou Segata Sanshirou Sega Saturn, shiro!
#2851 [20:16] <Segata_Sanshiro> wakamono yo! shinken ni torikunde irumono ga aru ka! inochigake de uchi konde irumono ga aru ka! Sega Saturn, shiro! yubi ga oreru made! yubi ga oreru made!
#2852 [20:16] <Segata_Sanshiro> setsuna no kairaku oi tsudzukete mo munashii yosei ga nokoru dake tokoton kiwamenu yatsura ni wa karada ni tataki komu zo Segata Sanshirou Segata Sanshirou Sega Saturn, shiro!
#2853 [20:16] <mbentley> can has engrish?
#2854 [20:16] <Segata_Sanshiro> aoi oozora shiroi uki kumo makka ni tagiru asobi no chi tochuu de nage dasu yatsura ni wa karada de oboe saseru zo Segata Sanshirou Segata Sanshirou Sega Saturn, shiro! Segata Sanshirou Segata Sanshirou Sega Saturn, shiro!
#2855 [20:16] <Miclee> TrueWolves
#2856 [20:16] <Miclee> kill 'im
#2857 [20:16] <CruelNoise> mbentley: he'll be banned momentarily
#2858 [20:16] <Segata_Sanshiro> #YOUMUSTPLAYTHESEGASATURN
#2859 [20:16] <DeathProof> lol @ Bentley
#2860 [20:17] <mbentley> good times
#2861 [20:17] <Segata_Sanshiro> YOU MUST PORT MINECRAFT TO THE SEGA SATURN
#2862 [20:17] <Segata_Sanshiro> YOU MUST PORT THE SEGA SATURN TO MINECRAFT
#2863 [20:17] <lukegb> Pft
#2864 [20:17] <mbentley> that could be fun
#2865 [20:17] <lukegb> At least he isn't trolling #help
#2866 [20:17] <CruelNoise> lukegb: don't give him ideas
#2867 [20:17] * TrueWolves kicked Segata_Sanshiro from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: -.-)
#2868 [20:17] <lukegb> CruelNoise: he joined #help
#2869 [20:18] <mbentley> lol
#2870 [20:18] <TrueWolves> I don't have ops in #help
#2871 [20:18] <CruelNoise> HE LEFT
#2872 [20:18] <lukegb> He left again...
#2873 [20:18] <CruelNoise> he left
#2874 [20:18] <lukegb> I think he realised there are lots of ircops :P
#2875 [20:18] <CruelNoise> lol
#2876 [20:18] <CruelNoise> KLINED
#2877 [20:19] <Jegerdum> that would be awesome though, if it could run more easily on my old sega saturn than on my brand new desktop ubuntu machine
#2878 [20:19] <Jegerdum> ;P
#2879 [20:19] <CruelNoise> LOL
#2880 [20:19] <CruelNoise> yesh
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#2882 [21:40] <Costly> those installed depencies won't get removed too
#2883 [21:40] <Kealper> !load mod_console
#2884 [21:40] <CruelNoise> thanks, costly.
#2885 [21:41] <Costly> with autoremove they'll be removed too
#2886 [21:41] <mbentley> <3 aptitude purge
#2887 [21:41] <Costly> yup <3
#2888 [21:41] <CruelNoise> what does purge do?
#2889 [21:42] <mbentley> removes config files, etc
#2890 [21:42] <Costly> purge installed software with every installed dependencies (if not needed anymore from any other software) + configs etc
#2891 [21:42] <CruelNoise> that sounds useful
#2892 [21:44] <CruelNoise> ahaha
#2893 [21:44] <CruelNoise> you know what I want tod o
#2894 [21:45] <CruelNoise> sudo apt-get install *
#2895 [21:45] <CruelNoise> see what happens
#2896 [21:45] <Costly> nothing?^^
#2897 [21:45] <CruelNoise> aww
#2898 [21:45] <CruelNoise> that's boring
#2899 [21:46] <Costly> :-D
#2900 [21:46] <Kealper> it'll probably just say can't find package *
#2901 [21:46] <CruelNoise> i'ma do it anyways
#2902 [21:46] <Costly> :(){ :|:& };:
#2903 [21:46] <CruelNoise> i just installed this sysyem, so I still have all my porn backed up on dropbox
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#2905 [21:46] <Costly> this does some awesome stuff (use at your own risk) :D
#2906 [21:46] <CruelNoise> I CAN'T BE HURT
#2907 [21:47] <Kealper> i love windows so much...i've got a rogue process that can't be killed
#2908 [21:47] <CruelNoise> Costly: also, i can end that bomb by shutting down my computer, and nothing gets hurt, right/
#2909 [21:47] <Costly> yup
#2910 [21:47] <CruelNoise> gooood
#2911 [21:47] <CruelNoise> well, time to try apt-get install *
#2912 [21:48] <Costly> i did
#2913 [21:48] <CruelNoise> nothing happened
#2914 [21:48] <Kealper> better bomb is to cd to your root dir and type rm -rf *
#2915 [21:48] <Costly> * = every file of the folder you are in atm
#2916 [21:48] <CruelNoise> it said it couldn't find some thing
#2917 [21:48] <Costly> haha Kealper, ubuntu got a newbie protection there
#2918 [21:48] <CruelNoise> dern
#2919 [21:48] <Kealper> does it really? damn that takes all the fun out of it
#2920 [21:49] <mbentley> fun to play 'how long can i use my system while it is running rm -rf /'
#2921 [21:49] <CruelNoise> well, let's try :(){ :|:& };:
#2922 [21:49] <CruelNoise> oh my god
#2923 [21:49] <CruelNoise> that does soud fun\
#2924 [21:49] <Costly> yeah you have to add something like --preserve-root
#2925 [21:49] <Costly> lolz
#2926 [21:49] <Costly> CruelNoise
#2927 [21:49] <CruelNoise> Costly
#2928 [21:50] <Costly> you could kill those processes if you are fast enough
#2929 [21:50] <mbentley> unfortunately with a ssd, it doesn't work very long
#2930 [21:50] <mbentley> lol
#2931 [21:50] <Costly> but it's nearly impossible^^
#2932 [21:50] <Kealper> lol
#2933 [21:50] <CruelNoise> huh
#2934 [21:50] <Kealper> mbentley: was that the voice of experience?
#2935 [21:50] <CruelNoise> maybe ubuntu noob proofed that, too.
#2936 [21:50] <CruelNoise> anyways
#2937 [21:50] <CruelNoise> i forget how to kill processes, so !
#2938 [21:50] <Costly> nothing happed?
#2939 [21:50] <mbentley> oh yeah. only linux pros use rm -rf /
#2940 [21:51] <mbentley> :D
#2941 [21:51] <mbentley> </sarcasm>
#2942 [21:51] <Kealper> uhh.... killall process name?
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#2944 [21:52] <Costly> yeah in this case you need to kill everything which includes a : ^^
#2945 [21:53] <Kealper> ok this is really making me mad....i actually can't kill this process using any means on my server....
#2946 [21:53] <mbentley> Kealper: try 'taskkill' ?
#2947 [21:53] <Z4kku> Is it on Linux, Kealper?
#2948 [21:53] <Kealper> already did taskkill /f
#2949 [21:53] <Kealper> winblows
#2950 [21:53] <Z4kku> Can't help you.
#2951 [21:53] <Kealper> it's saying that it kills it, but it persists
#2952 [21:53] <Z4kku> I don't use crappy OSs. :P
#2953 [21:54] <Costly> format c: install linux :-D
#2954 [21:54] <Z4kku> ^ THat
#2955 [21:54] <Kealper> normally this works fine when shit doesn't hit the fan...lol
#2956 [21:54] <mbentley> odd
#2957 [21:54] <Kealper> Costly: it's got to run windows, there are programs that i need it for that don't run under wine
#2958 [21:54] <Z4kku> Can you remote into the box and use Ctrl+Shift+Esc?
#2959 [21:55] <Z4kku> What programs?
#2960 [21:55] <Kealper> ones i made
#2961 [21:55] <Z4kku> If you made them, then port them to Linux. lol
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#2963 [21:55] <Kealper> made in a language that is not linux friendly, using calls that are not wine friendly
#2964 [21:56] <CruelNoise> yaaaaaaaaay
#2965 [21:56] <CruelNoise> Kealper: what?
#2966 [21:56] <mbentley> i love linux... hate trying to get some things to work in wine
#2967 [21:56] <Z4kku> You used Visual Basic, didn't you? -_-
#2968 [21:56] <Kealper> nope
#2969 [21:56] <Costly> or pascal
#2970 [21:56] <CruelNoise> no
#2971 [21:56] <Kealper> if it was vb, there is mono for that
#2972 [21:56] <Z4kku> I would delete what you have now and start learning a real programming language.
#2973 [21:56] <CruelNoise> vb is unix friendly
#2974 [21:56] <CruelNoise> my mother's coworker uses it to control ROBOTS
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#2977 [22:00] <Kealper> equivilant of making a file called bat.bat with the command start bat.bat inside windows?
#2978 [22:00] <aetherian> funny
#2979 [22:00] <aetherian> waghaghag
#2980 [22:01] <aetherian> anyway
#2981 [22:01] <aetherian> hey guys
#2982 [22:01] <Kealper> !load mod_console
#2983 [22:02] <CruelNoise> ...?
#2984 [22:02] <CruelNoise> whoops
#2985 [22:02] <Kealper> no lols?
#2986 [22:02] <CruelNoise> damn
#2987 [22:02] <CruelNoise> he changed the password
#2988 [22:02] <CruelNoise> fast motherfucker
#2989 [22:03] <Kealper> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hunter2
#2990 [22:03] <mbentley> LULZ
#2991 [22:04] <Kealper> CruelNoise: i am disappoint.
#2992 [22:04] <CruelNoise> =(
#2993 [22:04] <CruelNoise> Kealper: what's wrong?
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#2995 [22:04] <Kealper> you didn't get the hunter2 reference....and thought it was actually my bot's password -.-
#2996 [22:05] <Costly> ^^
#2997 [22:05] <CruelNoise> XD
#2998 [22:05] <CruelNoise> Nah, i don't binge qdb very often
#2999 [22:05] <Costly> O_O
#3000 [22:06] <Kealper> but...but....hunter2 has gone beyond qdb, and has become a true meme!
#3001 [22:06] <Costly> without bash.org i would have died of boredom like 100xtimes @ work
#3002 [22:06] <Kealper> lol
#3003 [22:06] <CruelNoise> I've never heard of it -.-
#3004 [22:06] <Costly> >_>
#3005 [22:06] <mbentley> WHAT?
#3006 [22:07] <Kealper> then you've got to read the one in that lmgtmy link, it's some of the best trolling of a noob ever
#3007 [22:07] <Costly> i think he's serious^^
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#3009 [22:09] <hughes> i have a question
#3010 [22:09] <Kealper> we probably have an answer
#3011 [22:09] <Costly> 42
#3012 [22:09] <CruelNoise> sex
#3013 [22:10] <hughes> i am trying to install a texture pack how do i do that
#3014 [22:10] * Kealper wonders of CruelNoise got Costly's joke ether
#3014 [22:10] <Kealper> either*
#3015 [22:10] <CruelNoise> Kealper: fuck you
#3016 [22:10] <Costly> :-D
#3017 [22:10] <Kealper> i love you too
#3018 [22:10] <CruelNoise> <3
#3019 [22:10] <CruelNoise> anyways
#3020 [22:10] <CruelNoise> hughes: what OS are you using?
#3021 [22:11] <Kealper> hughes: if it's Misa's pack, it won't work, if it's something else
#3022 [22:11] <Kealper> what texture pack, exactly?
#3023 [22:11] <Costly> well i'm new to minecraft but i guess you have to download the texture pack files to /texturepacks/ and then install it using minecraft.exe -> options
#3024 [22:11] <Kealper> no, there is a Mods and Texture Packs button
#3025 [22:11] <hughes> doom mod and mob mods
#3026 [22:11] <CruelNoise> somethign like Costly said
#3027 [22:11] <sutadesign> anyone have this issue with iConomy http://pastebin.com/frp2Y4Am
#3028 [22:11] <mbentley> you just place the .zip in the folder button
#3029 [22:11] <Costly> ah not options
#3030 [22:11] <Costly> yeah theres a extra buttion for it
#3031 [22:11] <CruelNoise> FUCK IT.
#3032 [22:12] <CruelNoise> i'm oOUUUUUTA HERE
#3033 [22:12] <Kealper> hughes: that's actually a mod, not a texture pack :/
#3034 [22:12] <hughes> ohh
#3035 [22:12] <CruelNoise> stupid client
#3036 [22:12] <CruelNoise> /hop didn't work
#3037 [22:12] <Costly> miranda?
#3038 [22:12] <CruelNoise> [22:12] [472] CruelNoise h is unknown mode char to me
#3039 [22:12] <CruelNoise> ?!?
#3040 [22:13] <hughes> on some sites they said to open up .minecraft bin then click minecraft.jar
#3041 [22:13] <hughes> or something of that sorts
#3042 [22:13] <Kealper> irssi is the most useless thing for versioning someone ever.... CruelNoise what client?
#3043 [22:14] <Kealper> hughes: mods like that are out of the scope of this channel
#3044 [22:14] <hughes> ok
#3045 [22:14] <Kealper> but yes, you've got to open the .jar with winrar
#3046 [22:14] <Kealper> the mod should come with instructions on installing it
#3047 [22:14] <CruelNoise> Kealper: konversation
#3048 [22:15] <hughes> thanks
#3049 [22:15] <Kealper> CruelNoise: it might be /cycle
#3050 [22:15] <CruelNoise> you can't just ctcp version in irssi?
#3051 [22:15] <Kealper> no, the server tells me no such nick/channel
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#3053 [22:15] <CruelNoise> you sure you got the syntax right?
#3054 [22:15] <CruelNoise> it's /ctcp <nick> version
#3055 [22:16] <Kealper> that's stupid
#3056 [22:16] <CruelNoise> anyways
#3057 [22:16] <CruelNoise> brb
#3058 [22:16] <Kealper> it's backwards from other clients
#3059 [22:16] <Kealper> /ctcp username command instead of /ctcp command username
#3060 [22:17] <Ronjoe> Kealper: what do you mean "from other clients"?
#3061 [22:17] <Ronjoe> all clients i use have /ctcp username command
#3062 [22:17] <Kealper> the other clients i've used were the other way around afaik
#3063 [22:18] <Ronjoe> meh, k
#3064 [22:18] <Kealper> maybe i just suck, and was pampered too much
#3065 [22:18] <Ronjoe> then i would suggest getting a better client
#3066 [22:18] <Kealper> irssi works, but i just switched to it recently so i'm still learning it's crap
#3067 [22:19] <Ronjoe> http://www.silverex.org/download/
#3068 [22:19] <Kealper> and i don't see xchat letting me ssh into it and chat that way
#3069 [22:19] <Ronjoe> yeah...
#3070 [22:19] <Ronjoe> hmm
#3071 [22:19] <Kealper> and that link actually was xchat.....
#3072 [22:19] <Ronjoe> yeah
#3073 [22:19] <Ronjoe> lol
#3074 [22:20] <Ronjoe> how about you set up an irc bouncer
#3075 [22:20] <Kealper> or i could just keep using irssi becuase it works fine?
#3076 [22:20] <Ronjoe> meh k
#3077 [22:20] <Ronjoe> suit yourself
#3078 [22:20] <Kealper> real men don't gui
#3079 [22:20] <Kealper> lol
#3080 [22:21] <Diablothein> real men don't hit women.
#3081 [22:21] <Diablothein> real men make women hit themselves.
#3082 [22:21] <Ronjoe> eh no
#3083 [22:21] <Kealper> with irssi i can just ssh to my server from anywhere, type screen -x and bam, chatting again without even needing an irc client
#3084 [22:21] <Ronjoe> real men can use force
#3085 [22:21] <Ronjoe> but dont
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#3087 [22:22] <Ronjoe> real men dont make jokes about real men, because real men arent something to joke about
#3088 [22:22] <Diablothein> methinks Ronjoe is a woman.
#3089 [22:22] <Diablothein> who belongs in the kitchen.
#3090 [22:22] <Kealper> :/
#3091 [22:22] <CruelNoise> real men do whatever the fuck they want
#3092 [22:22] <Ronjoe> methinks Diablothein is a 12-year-old that doesnt know a real man when he sees one
#3093 [22:23] <Diablothein> CruelNoise, yep.
#3094 [22:23] * CruelNoise wears a tutu on occasion
#3094 [22:24] * Kealper doesn't judge
#3094 [22:24] * Mikau does
#3094 [22:24] <Kealper> lol
#3095 [22:24] * Diablothein wears a kilt on occasion
#3095 [22:25] * CruelNoise realizes that a kilt and a tutu aren't the same thing
#3095 [22:25] <CruelNoise> whoops
#3096 [22:25] * Ronjoe wears nothing, because hiding one's manly parts isn't manly
#3096 [22:26] <Kealper> that guy means business.
#3097 [22:26] <CruelNoise> Ronjoe is right
#3098 [22:27] <CruelNoise> also, has everyone noticed that everything on qdb is either about fapping or masturbating or weed?
#3099 [22:28] <Kealper> that's because the people who now moderate bash are probably 15
#3100 [22:28] <Diablothein> Never heard of it.
#3101 [22:28] <Kealper> you too? sheesh....youngins
#3102 [22:28] <Costly> -.-
#3103 [22:28] <Costly> gtfo my intarweb
#3104 [22:28] <Diablothein> Kealper, I have better things to do than to read idiots who talk about masturbation or marijuana.
#3105 [22:29] <Diablothein> Y'know what that better is?
#3106 [22:29] <Diablothein> Playing Minecraft.
#3107 [22:29] <Kealper> get a second monitor, then you can read bash.org while you mine obsidian
#3108 [22:30] <Kealper> anyone here actually have some real experience with windows server 2008 r2?
#3109 [22:30] * Diablothein has read about Windows Server 2008 R2 on Wikipedia
#3109 [22:30] <Diablothein> does that count?
#3110 [22:30] <Kealper> because i'm getting a new server, and i'm not sure if i should install that, or go with windows 7 and trim the visual fat out of it
#3111 [22:31] <Diablothein> Kealper, read into Windows XP Black Edition
#3112 [22:31] <Diablothein> It's a gutted version of XP, no crapware.
#3113 [22:31] <Costly> or maybe read into some real server OS'es
#3114 [22:31] <Kealper> that doesn't work anymore, it's VLK is blacklisted, and it's got LOADS f crapware
#3115 [22:32] <Kealper> of*
#3116 [22:32] <CruelNoise> use a non-windows server -.-
#3117 [22:32] <CruelNoise> Use redhat
#3118 [22:32] <Kealper> Costly: you seem rather....biased against new windows OSes....
#3119 [22:32] <Costly> add server to that and you are right
#3120 [22:32] <CruelNoise> I AM GOING TO VOTEDOWN EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKE ON BASH.ORG
#3121 [22:33] <Kealper> for my needs, windows servers work far better than linux servers
#3122 [22:33] <CruelNoise> psh
#3123 [22:33] <Kealper> they are more than stable enough, and have far more software to install :/
#3124 [22:34] <Diablothein> Kealper, no, it doesn't.
#3125 [22:34] <Diablothein> Its install does not have the crapware included.
#3126 [22:35] <Kealper> the only time you get "crapware" with windows is when you get an OEM copy
#3127 [22:35] <Diablothein> Crapware = MS Paint, MS Office trial, Antivirus, etc.
#3128 [22:36] <Kealper> the only thing of that you listed that comes with windows by default is paint, and server editions dont even have that...
#3129 [22:36] <CruelNoise> ms paint is crapware?
#3130 [22:36] <CruelNoise> asshole
#3131 [22:36] <Diablothein> it is.
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#3133 [22:36] <Kealper> i suggest you actually try a ms server os before dising it :/
#3134 [22:36] <CruelNoise> ms paint is god
#3135 [22:37] <Diablothein> CruelNosie, GIMP
#3136 [22:37] <CruelNoise> no
#3137 [22:37] <CruelNoise> ms paint
#3138 [22:37] <CruelNoise> don't you get what I mean?
#3139 [22:37] <CruelNoise> using simple tools to create master peices is the sign of the true craftsman
#3140 [22:38] <Kealper> sadly, i have to agree with that
#3141 [22:38] <Kealper> some of the things that people do with paint are 10x better and require much more skill than people using photoshop :/
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#3143 [22:39] <Kealper> sorta like redstone cpus in mc....
#3144 [22:39] <CruelNoise> euuh
#3145 [22:39] <Cial> i rarely use photoshop
#3146 [22:39] <CruelNoise> why is bash so archaic?
#3147 [22:39] <Cial> paint.net however i abuse :D
#3148 [22:39] <CruelNoise> i have to go to a seperate page to upvote something?
#3149 [22:39] <Cial> CruelNoise, think about how old that is
#3150 [22:39] <CruelNoise> or downvote it?
#3151 [22:39] <Kealper> yea, i have paint for quick edits, and pain.net for anything that is not easily done in paint
#3152 [22:39] <CruelNoise> yeah, but it's still got people in charge of it
#3153 [22:39] <Cial> no there should be an up or down arrow
#3154 [22:39] <CruelNoise> someone's paying for servers
#3155 [22:39] <Cial> also
#3156 [22:39] <Cial> is it updated :O
#3157 [22:40] <CruelNoise> you know
#3158 [22:40] <CruelNoise> they should just make an /r/qdb
#3159 [22:40] <CruelNoise> so it's reddit with quotse
#3160 [22:40] <CruelNoise> which is like goatse
#3161 [22:40] <CruelNoise> but with thext
#3162 [22:40] <CruelNoise> which is like
#3163 [22:40] <Diablothein> Lol, I plan my circuits using gedit
#3164 [22:40] <CruelNoise> test
#3165 [22:41] <CruelNoise> but with x
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#3170 [22:59] <Diablothein> homemade sauerkraut night before school, I see nothing that can go wrong.
#3171 [22:59] <Costly> sauerkraut night?
#3172 [22:59] <Costly> what does that mean?
#3173 [22:59] <CruelNoise> Costly: we must make a band with that name
#3174 [22:59] <CruelNoise> immediatly
#3175 [22:59] <Costly> :-D
#3176 [23:01] <Costly> WTF
#3177 [23:01] <Costly> a pig is driving in my minecart
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#3179 [23:02] <Diablothein> DID YOU KNOW: Lady Gaga posed naked for the magazine Vanity Fair.
#3180 [23:02] <Kealper> maybe this will finnally put down the myth of her secretly being a dude
#3181 [23:03] <Costly> pics or it didnt happen
#3182 [23:03] <Diablothein> Nope, she kept that part covered the whole time.
#3183 [23:04] <CruelNoise> Diablothein: do we see her boobs?
#3184 [23:04] <Diablothein> http://www.osoblog.tv/lady_gaga_vanity_fair_double.jpg
#3185 [23:04] <CruelNoise> also, there's a video of her in which her left labia majora is outside her costume
#3186 [23:04] <Diablothein> Costly, pay up
#3187 [23:04] <Costly> well boobs are not a very good indicator for that^^
#3188 [23:05] <CruelNoise> yeah, breasts are pretty easy to fake
#3189 [23:06] <Diablothein> Just ask CruelNoise, he knows all about it.
#3190 [23:06] <Costly> shoop da woop
#3191 [23:06] <CruelNoise> yep
#3192 [23:06] <Costly> but i didnt meant that, i know guys who got bigger boobs than my girlfriend xD
#3193 [23:06] <CruelNoise> I once changed my gender twice in a day
#3194 [23:07] <CruelNoise> for a period of about two minutes, I was this person imgba.co/n/meyousilly.jpg
#3195 [23:07] <Diablothein> That's because the dudes are fat, and your girlfriend is flat chested
#3196 [23:07] <CruelNoise> it was AWESOM
#3197 [23:07] <CruelNoise> it was so awesome
#3198 [23:07] <CruelNoise> I have that URL memorized
#3199 [23:07] <Costly> uh yeah
#3200 [23:07] <Costly> lol
#3201 [23:07] <Kealper> CruelNoise: huh? lol
#3202 [23:08] <CruelNoise> It's true
#3203 [23:08] <Diablothein> imgba.co?
#3204 [23:08] <CruelNoise> I was on IRC during the whole operation
#3205 [23:08] <Kealper> you were that chick for 2 minutes?
#3206 [23:08] <CruelNoise> yes
#3207 [23:08] <Costly> did you touch yourself?
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#3209 [23:08] <Kealper> Diablothein: http://imagebacon.com
#3210 [23:08] <CruelNoise> I touched myself a lot
#3211 [23:08] <Diablothein> .co?
#3212 [23:08] <Kealper> look at the full url
#3213 [23:08] <CruelNoise> they had to drug me to get me to pose for the photoshoot
#3214 [23:08] <Kealper> imageba.co/n/
#3215 [23:08] <CruelNoise> img
#3216 [23:09] <CruelNoise> not image
#3217 [23:09] <Kealper> w/e
#3218 [23:09] <Kealper> close enough
#3219 [23:09] <CruelNoise> not really
#3220 [23:09] <Kealper> sans vowels and it is >.>
#3221 [23:09] <CruelNoise> imageba.co/n/meyousilly.jpg is not an image of me.
#3222 [23:10] <Kealper> wait....
#3223 [23:10] <Kealper> arn't you a guy?
#3224 [23:10] <Kealper> or am i just really needing to pay more attention to irc?
#3225 [23:11] <CruelNoise> [23:08] <Kealper> you were that chick for 2 minutes?
#3226 [23:11] <Diablothein> I actually know someone on a different irc server that's going through the snip procedure.
#3227 [23:11] <Kealper> oh....joke...gotcha....
#3228 [23:11] <CruelNoise> Kealper: I was joking
#3229 [23:12] * Kealper goes back to editing group account permissions in server 2008 r2
#3229 [23:12] <CruelNoise> A couple nights ago I tried to claim that I was a twenty four year old female, and not a fourteen year old idiot as is my usual claim.
#3230 [23:12] <CruelNoise> it didn't work, as I had posted a few images of myself a week before.
#3231 [23:12] <Costly> time to sleep for me, ... it's 5am >_>
#3232 [23:12] <Costly> gnight
#3233 [23:12] <Kealper> you're not a 14 year old idiot?
#3234 [23:12] <Kealper> :P
#3235 [23:12] <CruelNoise> Nah
#3236 [23:12] <Diablothein> CN, try it on a different IRC network.
#3237 [23:12] <CruelNoise> I'm actually susan coffey
#3238 [23:12] <CruelNoise> twenty
#3239 [23:13] <CruelNoise> i am beautiful
#3240 [23:13] <Diablothein> timestamped pics or it didn't happen.
#3241 [23:13] <Kealper> OMGRLY?!
#3242 [23:13] <CruelNoise> yeah
#3243 [23:13] <Kealper> (/s)
#3244 [23:13] <CruelNoise> one mment
#3245 [23:16] <Kealper> man....editing group/user permissions in windows is horrible...
#3246 [23:16] <Diablothein> I read this:
#3247 [23:16] <Diablothein> man.... windows is horrible...
#3248 [23:16] <Xerati> heh
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#3250 [23:17] <Xerati> someone tried finding pics of me once, and found a hot chick
#3251 [23:17] <Kealper> arn't you using ubuntu?
#3252 [23:17] <Xerati> and it ended up half of the community i was at thinking it was me
#3253 [23:17] <Kealper> lol Xerati
#3254 [23:17] <Xerati> she had a very very nice bod :P
#3255 [23:17] <Diablothein> pics?
#3256 [23:17] <CruelNoise> I put the timestamp in the top right left corner on... a floating peice of paper.
#3257 [23:17] <CruelNoise> http://imgba.co/n/timestampe.jpg
#3258 [23:18] <CruelNoise> that is my usual IRC outfit
#3259 [23:18] <Xerati> i'd have to get the link from a place i'd rather not connect to
#3260 [23:18] <Xerati> so meb later
#3261 [23:18] <CruelNoise> I change when I'm gaming
#3262 [23:18] <Diablothein> that's a bad shoop
#3263 [23:18] <Kealper> CruelNoise: LOL
#3264 [23:18] <CruelNoise> And I wear nothing when I'm on skype.
#3265 [23:19] <CruelNoise> Huh
#3266 [23:19] <CruelNoise> I wanted to check out #reddit anyways
#3267 [23:19] <CruelNoise> maybe I'll try there.
#3268 [23:20] <CruelNoise> get someone to make a decent shooped timestamp
#3269 [23:20] <CruelNoise> or get the skills to do it myself.
#3270 [23:20] <CruelNoise> and a pic of susan coffey wearing enough clothing to be using the computer .-.
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#3272 [23:23] <Kealper> how is making a timestamp that looks like it came from the camera hard?
#3273 [23:23] <Diablothein> http://www.bestmemes.com/pix/13848787.jpg
#3274 [23:24] <Diablothein> Also, not on paper, it has to be on boobs.
#3275 [23:25] <Diablothein> paper is easily shoopable
#3276 [23:26] <Kealper> here is how it's done:
#3277 [23:26] <CruelNoise> We're talking reddit here.
#3278 [23:26] <CruelNoise> Not 4chan
#3279 [23:26] <Kealper> make pic with a redtube url written on a peice of paper (with tits. ofc)
#3280 [23:26] <Diablothein> We're talking interent.
#3281 [23:26] <Diablothein> >.<
#3282 [23:26] <Diablothein> internet
#3283 [23:26] <Kealper> said url should link to a video to prove it
#3284 [23:27] <CruelNoise> No
#3285 [23:27] <CruelNoise> I don't want to be a porn female
#3286 [23:27] <CruelNoise> I want to be respectable!
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#3288 [23:27] <CruelNoise> Just a model
#3289 [23:27] <CruelNoise> and a female
#3290 [23:28] <Kealper> alternatively just check the exif data in the image
#3291 [23:28] <CruelNoise> lolwu
#3292 [23:28] <Diablothein> Hum...
#3293 [23:28] <Diablothein> zunechan!
#3294 [23:28] <CruelNoise> exif?
#3295 [23:28] <Kealper> meta data
#3296 [23:28] <CruelNoise> oh
#3297 [23:28] <CruelNoise> what does that accomplish?
#3298 [23:28] <Diablothein> coordinates.
#3299 [23:28] <Kealper> it will tell you what camera took the image, when it was taken, etc
#3300 [23:28] <Diablothein> and where
#3301 [23:29] <Kealper> if it was edited with any image editor, it will tell you what image editor did the changes
#3302 [23:29] <Diablothein> Hear about Randy Savage taking a pic on his phone and tweeting it? people stalked his ass until he moved, he forgot to remove the data
#3303 [23:29] <CruelNoise> there is of course ways to remove this data, right?
#3304 [23:30] <CruelNoise> or edit it
#3305 [23:30] <Diablothein> naturally
#3306 [23:30] <Kealper> indeed, but most people don;t know about it
#3307 [23:30] <Kealper> and most phones/camera phones won't tag the geocoords in it, it was probably an iphone or something -.-
#3308 [23:31] <Diablothein> blackberry.
#3309 [23:31] <Kealper> well...i doubt any normal cams would geocoord it....
#3310 [23:32] <Diablothein> Define "normal"
#3311 [23:33] <Kealper> all cameras? you need a gps reciever to add geocoords
#3312 [23:33] <Diablothein> So... tomorrow I'm considered as an AP student.
#3313 [23:35] <CruelNoise> AP?
#3314 [23:36] <Diablothein> Advanced Placement
#3315 [23:36] <CruelNoise> uhh
#3316 [23:36] <Kealper> college-level courses for highschool
#3317 [23:36] <Diablothein> There's CP (yep, child pornography classes): College prep, Honours, College, and then there's AP
#3318 [23:36] <CruelNoise> ah
#3319 [23:37] <CruelNoise> Cool
#3320 [23:37] <Diablothein> Kealper, AP is harder than College :P
#3321 [23:37] <Kealper> no, it's just not starter level college >.>
#3322 [23:38] <Diablothein> Counts as that, but the way that our teachers teach it, it's beyond it.
#3323 [23:38] <aetherian> hey guys
#3324 [23:38] <CruelNoise> hi
#3325 [23:39] <Diablothein> Sup d00d
#3326 [23:39] <CruelNoise> you know what bash needs to keep up with the times?
#3327 [23:39] <CruelNoise> facebook integration
#3328 [23:40] <Kealper> yes, because another one needs to fall victim to that desease -.-
#3329 [23:40] <genshou> +1 to that
#3330 [23:40] <Diablothein> Heh, am I a bad person if I found every mistake in our school's newspaper and submitted it to them? o.o
#3331 [23:40] <CruelNoise> lol
#3332 [23:40] <CruelNoise> Diablothein: no, you are a good person
#3333 [23:40] <aetherian> no
#3334 [23:40] <aetherian> you are an annoying, wiseass person, not a bad person]
#3335 [23:40] <CruelNoise> no matter how hard people try to tell you otherwise, making their flaws painfully obvious is simply a service.
#3336 [23:41] <CruelNoise> everyone needs a person like you, Diablothein.
#3337 [23:41] <aetherian> and nobody wants a person like you
#3338 [23:41] <aetherian> <3
#3339 [23:42] <Diablothein> Here's one: such and such is currently fighting for our country in Colorado Springs at Fort Carson
#3340 [23:42] <Diablothein> wut?
#3341 [23:43] <aetherian> wait what?
#3342 [23:43] <Diablothein> name censored as such and such.
#3343 [23:43] <Diablothein> But... what?
#3344 [23:44] <aetherian> why is name censored, like, did you censor it or did the paper censor it?
#3345 [23:44] <Diablothein> I did.
#3346 [23:44] <aetherian> and if it's a person, I thought it was so and so, not such and such
#3347 [23:44] <Diablothein> Eh.
#3348 [23:45] <Diablothein> quick censor as I type this while cleaning out my backpack.
#3349 [23:45] <aetherian> heh
#3350 [23:45] <Diablothein> Awesome! I found my paper Robin Hood hat! :O
#3351 [23:45] <aetherian> :O
#3352 [23:45] <aetherian> nice
#3353 [23:45] <CruelNoise> and you're getting into AP?
#3354 [23:46] <aetherian> bet you feel like a right regular archer wizzat
#3355 [23:46] <Diablothein> Nah, I feel like a right regular archer when I have a right compound bow in my hands :D
#3356 [23:47] <aetherian> what? augh!
#3357 [23:47] <aetherian> screw that
#3358 [23:47] <aetherian> use a longbow
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#3360 [23:47] <Diablothein> Dude, I get better range with this bow than a longbow.
#3361 [23:47] <aetherian> hey mickey. I mean miclee.
#3362 [23:47] <aetherian> so
#3363 [23:47] <Miclee> Hey
#3364 [23:47] <aetherian> diablo
#3365 [23:47] <aetherian> it
#3366 [23:47] <aetherian> s not as cool
#3367 [23:47] <aetherian> >:
#3368 [23:47] <Diablothein> Custom built, at distance, looks like a longbow :P
#3369 [23:48] <aetherian> what, like 2 miles away?
#3370 [23:48] <Diablothein> You couldn't see me from 2 miles away.
#3371 [23:49] <aetherian> uh
#3372 [23:49] <aetherian> well
#3373 [23:49] <aetherian> maybe
#3374 [23:49] <aetherian> if it was a very flat surface
#3375 [23:49] <aetherian> and no fog
#3376 [23:49] <aetherian> maybe
#3377 [23:49] <Diablothein> At night.
#3378 [23:49] <Diablothein> You wouldn't see me.
#3379 [23:49] <Diablothein> And yes, I am white.
#3380 [23:49] <Diablothein> Baltic pale to be exact.
#3381 [23:50] <aetherian> o_O
#3382 [23:50] <aetherian> at day
#3383 [23:50] <aetherian> with no glare
#3384 [23:50] <Diablothein> You still couldn't.
#3385 [23:51] <CruelNoise> he has a fucking telescope
#3386 [23:51] <aetherian> ^^
#3387 [23:51] <Diablothein> I'm not in the sky.
#3388 [23:51] <Diablothein> ^^
#3389 [23:51] <aetherian> you can aim the thing flat
#3390 [23:52] <aetherian> and besides
#3391 [23:52] <CruelNoise> and telescopes don't have to look at the sky
#3392 [23:52] <CruelNoise> dumbass
#3393 [23:52] <aetherian> they're monoculars
#3394 [23:52] <aetherian> not a telescope
#3395 [23:52] <aetherian> why couldn't I see you, even if but as a spec?
#3396 [23:53] <Diablothein> Because I blend.
#3397 [23:53] <CruelNoise> oh, he's got camo undies
#3398 [23:53] <aetherian> eugh
#3399 [23:53] <aetherian> okay
#3400 [23:53] <aetherian> now I don't want to look
#3401 [23:53] <Diablothein> Cruel, nope, I don't.
#3402 [23:53] <aetherian> :#
#3403 [23:53] <aetherian> you do!
#3404 [23:53] <aetherian> gasp!
#3405 [23:53] <Diablothein> My clothes are uberstrange, that blend in with everything.
#3406 [23:53] <Diablothein> Especially nighttime.
#3407 [23:54] <aetherian> ...it's daytimere, rememb
#3408 [23:54] <aetherian> typefail
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#3410 [23:54] <aetherian> hbh
#3411 [23:54] <aetherian> hi
#3412 [23:54] <Diablothein> Daytime, nearly the same.
#3413 [23:54] <Diablothein> Wait, grassy field or desert?
#3414 [23:55] <HBH> Hey all. I'm having abit of trouble connecting to my Minecrafd server. I have opened up the port but still no dice
#3415 [23:58] <Diablothein> holy shit.
#3416 [23:58] <Diablothein> I found my windows install disc... XD
#3417 [23:58] <Diablothein> And Scorpions: Big City Nights
#3418 [23:59] <ACsiD> nice this one is better then the windows one
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