#1 [00:00] <Diablothein> Lol, I'm using Linux, and am not about to swap back to Windows...
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#3 [00:00] <Diablothein> Though, what I AM going to do, is listen to Scorpions.
#4 [00:00] <HBH> anyone able to help me try and connect to my server?
#5 [00:00] <Diablothein> HBH, ip address?
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#7 [00:01] <HBH> so the server doesn't work for the Browser vertion?
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#9 [00:02] <Diablothein> What, is, your, IP, Address.
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#11 [00:02] <Realdude19> Hey Guys I have a Question that I could use some answers too. I am running a Minecraft Server on Ubuntu 10.04 and I am wondering what if any is a good way to help reduce the Server side Lag? atleast until a fix is released.
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#13 [00:03] <HBH> 99.239.118.138
#14 [00:04] <Diablothein> !check 99.239.118.138
#15 [00:04] <Diablothein> ... KEALPER!
#16 [00:04] <Diablothein> Enable the bot :|
#17 [00:04] <Realdude19> ?
#18 [00:05] <Realdude19> what is that IP for?
#19 [00:05] <Kealper> !status
#20 [00:05] <Kealper> !load mod_mchelp
#21 [00:05] <Realdude19> I am new here guys :S
#22 [00:05] <HBH> the server said some one was able to connect only to get disconnected
#23 [00:05] <Diablothein> !check 99.239.118.138
#24 [00:05] <Diablothein> Well, it works.
#25 [00:05] <Kealper> HBH: what was your issue?
#26 [00:05] <Kealper> Realdude19: what are your machine's specs?
#27 [00:06] <Kealper> (ram, cpu, etc...)
#28 [00:06] <HBH> can't connect to my server with the browser minecraft client
#29 [00:06] <HBH> <my IP> connected
#30 [00:06] <HBH> <myIP> lost connection suddenly. (java.io.IOException: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host)
#31 [00:06] <HBH> <myIP> Disconnected
#32 [00:06] <HBH> gives me that
#33 [00:06] <Kealper> 1 sec
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#35 [00:07] <mib_qlzv85> hello
#36 [00:07] <Kealper> hi
#37 [00:07] <mib_qlzv85> can i have help please?
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#39 [00:07] <Realdude19> 2GB Dual-core AMD Opteron Dedicated Server running Ubuntu 10.04 (Minimal)
#40 [00:08] <Kealper> Realdude19: what sort of lag do you get? like tons of "can't keep up" in the server console? or actual lag?
#41 [00:08] <mib_qlzv85> oh sorry
#42 [00:08] <mib_qlzv85> i'll wait.
#43 [00:08] <Realdude19> I am running McMyAdmin and hey0 mod
#44 [00:08] <Kealper> mib_qlzv85: i can multitask, what was your issue? :P
#45 [00:08] <mib_qlzv85> when i try running minecraft.jar, it gives me: "Invalid or corrupt jar file"
#46 [00:08] <Kealper> HBH: were you wanting to host a classic server or a beta server? because the one you have is classic
#47 [00:09] <Realdude19> Actuall lag, Like we place blocks and it shows 10 or so being placed, then they start to dissapper one by one, then the server or client, cant really tell... catches up
#48 [00:09] <Kealper> mib_qlzv85: and you have redownloaded it?
#49 [00:09] <mib_qlzv85> yes.
#50 [00:09] <HBH> classic si me and my friend can play with the browser
#51 [00:09] <Kealper> Realdude19: is it in a datacenter?
#52 [00:10] <Realdude19> yes
#53 [00:10] <Realdude19> Chicago
#54 [00:10] <Kealper> HBH: oh, explains why i can't connect to it with the beta client xD
#55 [00:10] <Realdude19> ServerPronto is the host.
#56 [00:10] <Kealper> HBH: is it just you that can't connect?
#57 [00:10] <Kealper> Realdude19: is it a dedicated server or a vps?
#58 [00:11] <Realdude19> Well I am starting to wonder that now... But I pay for a dedicated....
#59 [00:11] <HBH> I can't connect at all but some random guy was able to for a FEW SECONDS THEN IT KICKED HIM
#60 [00:11] <Kealper> i go through serverpronto too, and my server is in like...Panama....so...have you done an ip lookup on your server? lol
#61 [00:12] <Realdude19> I havent
#62 [00:12] <Realdude19> I never thought to double check
#63 [00:12] <Kealper> mib_qlzv85: sorry, forgot about you lol, what os?
#64 [00:12] <Diablothein> Anywho, guys, girls, and odd cases of lack of gender/bigender, I bid you good morning, school in less than eight hours.
#65 [00:13] <mib_qlzv85> windows 7 home premium, 64 bit. take your time :)
#66 [00:13] <Kealper> Realdude19: and when i said Panama, i meant the country, not the town in the usa
#67 [00:13] <Realdude19> Lol
#68 [00:13] <Realdude19> wow
#69 [00:14] <Diablothein> Kealper, localhosting ftw
#70 [00:14] <Kealper> HBH: so it just randomly DCs people for that? are you sure it's not just your internet being unstable, or overloaded?
#71 [00:14] <Kealper> Diablothein: i never said this was my minecraft server box, this is my webserver/irc client lol
#72 [00:14] <Diablothein> gnight
#73 [00:14] <Realdude19> Kealper: Thanks for that thought I will check. I just did the Holiday Special thinking it was an oprotunity to try setting my own up from the ground up, But the Lag Spikes are Killing me.
#74 [00:15] <HBH> I have a good internet connection
#75 [00:15] <Kealper> Realdude19: could i have the ip address for it? i'd like to check if i lag too...if it is in Chicago, then i should have like a 10 ping to it and no lag at all
#76 [00:15] <HBH> and it won't let even me on at all
#77 [00:16] <Kealper> HBH: that's...weird...have you tried reinstalling java and/or reinstalling the server files?
#78 [00:16] <Realdude19> Sure, But can I give it to you in a more Private medium? I dont use a white list yet so yeah
#79 [00:16] <Kealper> sure, just type /msg Kealper and then your message
#80 [00:17] <Realdude19> ok ty
#81 [00:17] <Kealper> that will do a private message to me
#82 [00:17] <HBH> want me to post what the server says?
#83 [00:17] <HBH> there also isn't any install file for the server
#84 [00:18] <Kealper> well, by reinstalling the server i meant redownloading, but i doubt it's that
#85 [00:18] <Kealper> and yea, but post it on http://pastebin.com if it's more than 3 lines long
#86 [00:19] <HBH> <my IP> connected
#87 [00:19] <HBH> <myIP> lost connection suddenly. (java.io.IOException: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host)
#88 [00:19] <HBH> <myIP> Disconnected
#89 [00:19] <HBH> thats what I get every time I try to connect
#90 [00:20] <Kealper> HBH: are you hosting the server off the same computer you are playing it on?
#91 [00:20] <HBH> ya I don't have another computer to run it dedicated
#92 [00:21] <Kealper> HBH: see the link just below the client window that says if you have issues to use that instead?
#93 [00:22] <HBH> ya is that a diffrent version?
#94 [00:22] <Kealper> it's a modified version, try using that and see if that works
#95 [00:24] <Kealper> mib_qlzv85: ok now lol..
#96 [00:24] <mib_qlzv85> :P
#97 [00:24] <Kealper> what was your issue again? sorry, a bit bogged down tonight :P
#98 [00:24] <mib_qlzv85> when i try running minecraft.jar, it gives me: "Invalid or corrupt jar file"
#99 [00:25] <Kealper> ahh yes....
#100 [00:25] <Kealper> beta client, i assume?
#101 [00:25] <mib_qlzv85> of course :(
#102 [00:25] <Kealper> have you tried using the .exe one?
#103 [00:25] <Kealper> !client
#104 [00:26] <mib_qlzv85> Yes, but I was intrested in modding.
#105 [00:26] <mib_qlzv85> I can get the executable running fine.
#106 [00:26] <Kealper> oh....
#107 [00:26] <Kealper> that's why
#108 [00:27] <Kealper> use the exe
#109 [00:27] <Kealper> you don't use THAT jar for mods
#110 [00:27] <HBH> wait
#111 [00:27] <Kealper> that jar is just a launcher
#112 [00:27] <mib_qlzv85> is that it?
#113 [00:27] <mib_qlzv85> so which one would I use?
#114 [00:28] <Kealper> go to %appdata%\.minecraft\bin and there is a minecraft.jar in there
#115 [00:28] <Kealper> that's the one that you use for modding
#116 [00:28] <mib_qlzv85> yeah
#117 [00:28] <mib_qlzv85> thats the one that gives me the error message
#118 [00:28] <mib_qlzv85> even when I reinstall
#119 [00:28] <HBH> where is there is no link you were talking about in the browser client window. sorry I thought I sawone but it wasn't it
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#121 [00:29] <Kealper> HBH: lemme screenshot it, gimme asec
#122 [00:29] <HBH> kk
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#124 [00:31] <Kealper> crap...
#125 [00:31] <Kealper> they took the link i was talking about off
#126 [00:31] <Kealper> put: &override=true
#127 [00:31] <Kealper> at the end of the server url
#128 [00:31] <Kealper> try that
#129 [00:33] <HBH> so after the link the server gives me put that?
#130 [00:33] <Kealper> yea
#131 [00:34] <HBH> nope
#132 [00:34] <Kealper> still nothing?
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#134 [00:35] <HBH> nothing
#135 [00:35] <Kealper> crap.
#136 [00:35] <Kealper> not sure then....it's been ages since i've even played classic :/
#137 [00:35] <Kealper> let along hosted a server :S
#138 [00:35] <HBH> :P
#139 [00:36] <HBH> I can connect to other peoples fine (other than when they reset it or bring it down) but this just won't work for my own for some reason
#140 [00:37] <Kealper> i assume you have atleast 2 gb of ram, right?
#141 [00:37] <Kealper> and when you say you can connect to others, you mean with your server running in the background, aswell?
#142 [00:39] <HBH> yup just did it now
#143 [00:39] <Kealper> weird....i really don't know then..
#144 [00:40] <HBH> maybe I'll try uninstalling java and reinstalling
#145 [00:41] <mib_qlzv85> a
#146 [00:41] <mib_qlzv85> sry
#147 [00:41] <HBH> cuz I looked up the arror is gives me and it turnes out to be something with java
#148 [00:41] <Kealper> HBH: i have no idea why yours does not work for your own server then :?
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#150 [00:46] <mib_qlzv85> excuse me
#151 [00:47] <Kealper> yessum?
#152 [00:47] <mib_qlzv85> i need to go soon
#153 [00:47] <mib_qlzv85> can you think of what the problem is?
#154 [00:47] <Kealper> i already said
#155 [00:47] <Kealper> go to %appdata%\.minecraft\bin
#156 [00:47] <Kealper> in that folder there will be the correct minecraft.jar
#157 [00:48] <mib_qlzv85> but thats the one that is invalid
#158 [00:48] <Kealper> oh, well then
#159 [00:48] <Kealper> the mod you applied is not supported, delete that bin folder and run minecraft again
#160 [00:48] <Kealper> sorry for that, if you previously said that was the one that was broke
#161 [00:48] <mib_qlzv85> i know i keep trying to delete .minecraft
#162 [00:49] <mib_qlzv85> but every time i redownload it
#163 [00:49] <mib_qlzv85> it is still corrupt
#164 [00:49] <Kealper> O.o
#165 [00:49] <Kealper> have you reinstalled java?
#166 [00:49] <mib_qlzv85> yes i updated it just an hour ago
#167 [00:50] <mib_qlzv85> wait
#168 [00:50] <mib_qlzv85> i just tried it again
#169 [00:50] <mib_qlzv85> and it gave me a different error message
#170 [00:50] <Kealper> what'd it say?
#171 [00:50] <mib_qlzv85> "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from ..."
#172 [00:51] <Realdude19> Thanks for your Help Kealper Good Luck Mib_qlzv85
#173 [00:51] <Kealper> are you reapplying that mod after you redo minecraft?
#174 [00:51] <mib_qlzv85> no
#175 [00:51] <mib_qlzv85> just a plain install
#176 [00:51] <Kealper> Realdude19: sorry i could not be more helpful :/
#177 [00:52] <Kealper> mib_qlzv85: does it do this with both the downloaded and browser client?
#178 [00:52] <mib_qlzv85> well
#179 [00:52] <Kealper> (i'm starting to run out of ideas here...)
#180 [00:52] <mib_qlzv85> like with the browser client it works fine
#181 [00:52] <mib_qlzv85> just like with a launcher
#182 [00:52] <mib_qlzv85> haha i know i'm just as confused as you are.
#183 [00:52] <Kealper> and you are using the exe launcher?
#184 [00:53] <mib_qlzv85> yes, the exe launcher works fine
#185 [00:53] <mib_qlzv85> but the .jar in the bin folder
#186 [00:53] <mib_qlzv85> does it not matter in mods?
#187 [00:53] <Kealper> you know what....
#188 [00:53] <Kealper> out of curiousity...
#189 [00:54] <Kealper> are you running the minecraft.jar file inside the bin folder, or the actual jar version of the launcher?
#190 [00:54] <mib_qlzv85> inside the bin folder
#191 [00:54] * Kealper sighs
#191 [00:54] <mib_qlzv85> any regular jar launcher works fine
#192 [00:54] <Kealper> you can't run that directly, it needs a "frame" to run through
#193 [00:55] <Kealper> the browser and the launchers act as the frame to run that minecraft.jar through
#194 [00:55] <mib_qlzv85> so should I forget about mods and just play the regular game?
#195 [00:55] <Kealper> apply your mod, then use the browser or the exe to play it
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#197 [00:56] <mib_qlzv85> would it work?
#198 [00:56] <Kealper> yes, that's the only way to make it work
#199 [00:56] <mib_qlzv85> any quick mod to try that out with?
#200 [00:56] <Kealper> no need to try it, i'm positive it will work that way, because that's the only way it can be done :/
#201 [00:57] <mib_qlzv85> oh okay
#202 [00:57] <mib_qlzv85> well, thank you for your help
#203 [00:57] <Kealper> aaannnnd...i'm spent for helping people for now
#204 [00:57] <mib_qlzv85> bye :)
#205 [00:57] <Kealper> cya lol
#206 [01:04] <lemon-rev> if its not saved gamed issues or is it some how game related, is it possible to have your work distroyed but only half of it in a world gone like it resoted back to its orgional form before building on it ?
#207 [01:10] <genshou> lemon-rev, it might be possible to generate a new version of your world if you can force the game to choose that seed somehow
#208 [01:11] <Kealper> you can
#209 [01:12] <Kealper> wait.... lemon-rev: wut?
#210 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> O.o
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#214 [01:39] <lemon-rev> hm
#215 [01:39] <lemon-rev> kealper
#216 [01:39] <lemon-rev> a friend of mine was gone while minecraft was sitting there apparently hes been having singleplayer lag issles of his own
#217 [01:39] <lemon-rev> but
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#219 [01:40] <lemon-rev> when it went back to his game it was like half the place was back to its orgional format before he mined it for minerals
#220 [01:40] <aetherian> so uh
#221 [01:40] <lemon-rev> and half his house was like a big brick had hit it
#222 [01:40] <lemon-rev> is that cause of the lagg at all
#223 [01:40] <aetherian> one guy says to the other, "I think I'm going insane, man," and the other just says, "It's all in your mind"
#224 [01:41] <aetherian> eeheehee
#225 [01:41] <lemon-rev> yay
#226 [01:41] <HDD> I wish to sell some products related to minecraft, Products like shirts, shoes, hats, etc with the words "minecraft" & some images of the mobs on em, what should i do to get the rights to do so? I e-mailed notch 2 months ago regarding this.
#227 [01:41] <aetherian> uh oh
#228 [01:41] <aetherian> e-mail him again
#229 [01:41] <aetherian> :)
#230 [01:42] <HDD> -_-
#231 [01:42] <aetherian> what?
#232 [01:42] <aetherian> he may have missed it
#233 [01:42] <aetherian> ugh
#234 [01:42] <HDD> fine, if i dont get a reply in 2 weeks, i will asume he doesnt care and do it :D
#235 [01:43] <aetherian> aetherian and netherian are both taken for gmail email addreses
#236 [01:43] <aetherian> and on youtube for account names
#237 [01:43] <aetherian> ideas?
#238 [01:43] <HDD> aether1an?
#239 [01:43] <HDD> a3th3rian?
#240 [01:43] <aetherian> no.
#241 [01:43] <aetherian> no numbers.
#242 [01:43] <HDD> xD
#243 [01:44] <aetherian> I must look sofisticated
#244 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> DHH - Email daniel@mojang.com ?
#245 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> er, FDD
#246 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#247 [01:44] * aetherian straightens his jacket
#247 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> HDD
#248 [01:44] * aetherian farts
#248 [01:44] <aetherian> er
#249 [01:44] <HDD> thanks.
#250 [01:44] <aetherian> you didn't hear that
#251 [01:45] <aetherian> darnit
#252 [01:45] <aetherian> yellowjester and purplepiper are also taken
#253 [01:45] <aetherian> I guess I'll just go with TheAetherian
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#255 [01:47] <aetherian> or rahter
#256 [01:47] <aetherian> rather
#257 [01:47] <aetherian> TheAEtherian
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#259 [01:47] <aetherian> catchy, no?
#260 [01:48] <aetherian> no?
#261 [01:49] <aetherian> opinions?
#262 [01:51] <aetherian> grr
#263 [01:51] <aetherian> thanks for the help with this, guys
#264 [01:53] <aetherian> that was sarcasm, by the way
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#269 [02:21] <Kealper> this sucks...2am...i'm hungry as heck...and there is like nothing to eat
#270 [02:22] <Solvius> goodmorning :)
#271 [02:22] <Kealper> hi lol
#272 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Taco Bell
#273 [02:22] <Kealper> they closed like an hour ago :/
#274 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Lies
#275 [02:23] <Kealper> brb...raiding the fridge again....maybe i can find something that only requires a bit of cooking lol
#276 [02:24] <Solvius> found a hosting company with interesting prices GreyVulpine :)
#277 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> "Interesting"?
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#279 [02:26] <Solvius> well the prices are, I think, reasoneble
#280 [02:26] <Solvius> I have no idea or they are :)
#281 [02:27] * fogWork grunts
#281 [02:27] <Solvius> what I saw in holland it started with 90 euro a month, bit much, I thought
#282 [02:28] <fogWork> Glasses broke, scanners not working on some machines... Windows XP knows how to perform magic
#283 [02:28] <fogWork> GreyVulpine, fixit ;P
#284 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> No!
#285 [02:28] <fogWork> Meh :P
#286 [02:29] * Kealper returns with leftover bean soup
#286 [02:29] <Kealper> bland ftw
#287 [02:29] * fogWork slaps the bowl
#287 [02:29] <fogWork> Rar!
#288 [02:29] * GreyVulpine duct tapes all of fogWork's glasses/scanner/machines/himself together
#288 [02:29] <Kealper> lol
#289 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> I call it... The Abomination!™
#290 [02:29] <Solvius> lol
#291 [02:29] <fogWork> Well... er, that works :P
#292 [02:29] <fogWork> But the scanner weighs 20 kilos ;_;
#293 [02:30] <Kealper> O.o
#294 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> So tape on a few dozen helium balloons
#295 [02:30] <Solvius> feed him soup, he gains strength then
#296 [02:31] <fogWork> I'd rather not go outside the office looking like that, though, it's enough that I almost gave the cleaning lady a heart attack this morning when I got to the office ;P
#297 [02:31] <Kealper> xD
#298 [02:31] <lemon-rev> does the neverworld get any better than red rock ?
#299 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Yellow rock
#300 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> And lava
#301 [02:31] <Kealper> and mud
#302 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Tons of lava
#303 [02:32] <lemon-rev> lol
#304 [02:32] <lemon-rev> well i seen that larva rocks the neverworld
#305 [02:32] <lemon-rev> but like yellow rock hum, whats can they be used for if anything
#306 [02:32] <Kealper> they glow indefinately
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#308 [02:33] <lemon-rev> but im still invistgating my new neverworld and btw i didnt have any trouble getting back to home when i planeted my first portal im back in home and also got good place in never worlds lol
#309 [02:33] <Kealper> break them to get glowstone dust, put 9 of them together in a crafting window to make a glowstone
#310 [02:33] <lemon-rev> i suppose that can be handy
#311 [02:33] <lemon-rev> oh
#312 [02:33] <lemon-rev> you need dimon or just iron axe to get that
#313 [02:34] <Kealper> doesn't matter
#314 [02:34] <Kealper> anything can break it
#315 [02:34] <lemon-rev> and those stupid big white creates 3 hits with an arrow and there dead also they leave gun poweder behind when they die
#316 [02:34] <Kealper> and that red netherstone can be lit on fire, and it stays lit forever (without using the log bug)
#317 [02:34] <lemon-rev> i see
#318 [02:34] <lemon-rev> lol, nice
#319 [02:35] <lemon-rev> might have to set one up under my tree regenerator lol
#320 [02:35] <lemon-rev> and see how many of them survive once they grow
#321 [02:35] <lemon-rev> lol
#322 [02:35] <Kealper> so basically the nether is going to be much more useful when the log burning bug is fixed, and when torches are made to burn out
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#324 [02:36] <lemon-rev> but i dont want touchers to run out, there damm usefull atm lol
#325 [02:36] <lemon-rev> but i suppose it keeps us busy with a huge mine , trying to keep it lit up
#326 [02:37] <Kealper> Notch has alredy said that whne he makes torches burn out, he will make current torches turn in to lanterns (infinate) so people don't get screwed on old maps
#327 [02:37] <lemon-rev> hm
#328 [02:37] <fogWork> That's awfully nice of him, but lets not do that :P
#329 [02:37] <lemon-rev> i wont call getting screwed so much as having monsters respawn in the dark
#330 [02:37] <fogWork> Darkness!
#331 [02:37] <Solvius> that sounds as no fun
#332 [02:38] <lemon-rev> lol
#333 [02:38] <Kealper> and you will probably need glowstone dtust to make lanterns
#334 [02:38] <lemon-rev> hm, so do i need to did up or down in never worlds to get stuff like yellow stone
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#336 [02:38] <fogWork> How about holding a lantern and be your own lightsource, eh? EH!
#337 [02:38] <fogWork> ;P
#338 [02:38] <Kealper> you find it growing on the ceilings of things
#339 [02:38] <lemon-rev> and those stupid zombies in neverworld can walk on lava, dammnations they are
#340 [02:39] <Solvius> neverworld ?
#341 [02:39] <Kealper> lol
#342 [02:39] <lemon-rev> neatherworld
#343 [02:39] <lemon-rev> solvius
#344 [02:39] <lemon-rev> im just slacking in spelling
#345 [02:39] <Solvius> and whats that ?
#346 [02:39] <pischto> I've never been to the nether, about time it's added
#347 [02:39] <Kealper> The Nether, minecraft's hell
#348 [02:39] <pischto> To sm
#349 [02:39] <lemon-rev> yes
#350 [02:39] <Solvius> lol hell allright :)
#351 [02:39] <Kealper> it's not pischto
#352 [02:40] <pischto> Why
#353 [02:40] <lemon-rev> god theres lony people on this server if all they wanta do is goto hell lol
#354 [02:40] <lemon-rev> :P
#355 [02:40] <lemon-rev> which is what im doing since making a portal
#356 [02:40] <lemon-rev> lol
#357 [02:40] <Solvius> I need coffee afk, no hell :)
#358 [02:40] <Kealper> because when Notch adds it, he will make portals also be able to link servers together
#359 [02:40] <lemon-rev> now that could be kewl
#360 [02:41] <lemon-rev> touble is i think we need some type of ping thingi up the top to see how much lag or ping time we get from the serrver
#361 [02:41] <lemon-rev> to allow us to chose if we stick around or not
#362 [02:41] <lemon-rev> :)
#363 [02:41] <pischto> Good idea but since I play on a private server with 15 players..
#364 [02:42] <fogWork> Kealper, I'm considering installing linux today, replacing Windows 7... got any awesome distributions up your sleeve?
#365 [02:42] <lemon-rev> well your one of the many luckys out there that know about those, im still like mineing away and sometimes getting bord of just mineing but hay shit haappens
#366 [02:42] <Kealper> fogWork: i like Linux Mint 10, it's not too bad, painless to set up
#367 [02:43] * fogWork is swift with google and locates ze page
#367 [02:43] <fogWork> Lets see
#368 [02:43] <lemon-rev> is it possible to shut down a portal after you have lit it
#369 [02:43] <lemon-rev> ?
#370 [02:43] <fogWork> Destroy it :P
#371 [02:43] <Kealper> yes
#372 [02:43] <lemon-rev> how ?
#373 [02:43] <pischto> Get rid of the obsidian i guess
#374 [02:43] <Solvius> I tried mint a year ago, got problems anny way :( well I am not a linux wizard, just a dumb windows user :)
#375 [02:43] <Kealper> just break one of the obsidian blocks
#376 [02:44] <lemon-rev> does that mean if you break it, and stop it, if you re light it it will try and make a new one or it should appear as it did orgionally ?
#377 [02:44] <fogWork> Kealper: have you tried mint fluxbox?
#378 [02:44] <Kealper> there is actually quite a jump in usability between mint 9 and mint 10
#379 [02:44] <Kealper> no, i like gnome so i never gave it a shot
#380 [02:44] <fogWork> Aw ;P
#381 [02:44] <Kealper> i like my UIs nice and bloated
#382 [02:44] <Kealper> lol
#383 [02:45] <Solvius> it started with the installation, I got falwty instructions so it took me two days to get it up and running
#384 [02:45] <Kealper> O.o
#385 [02:45] <Kealper> 10 installs in like 15 min or less L.
#386 [02:45] <Kealper> :/*
#387 [02:45] <fogWork> What in the...
#388 [02:45] <Solvius> after that the damage was done, no linux annymore for me
#389 [02:45] <fogWork> I look under Known Problems and see "Upstream issues"
#390 [02:46] <Kealper> fogWork: do you have an ati or nvidia card? because ati's linux drivers are total garbage
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#392 [02:46] <fogWork> GT240, suppose that is NVIDIA
#393 [02:46] <Kealper> i can't even play minecraft under linux, i have to use window
#394 [02:46] <Kealper> windows*
#395 [02:47] <Kealper> yea it is fogWork
#396 [02:47] <fogWork> Been a while since my last hardware upgrade on my "gaming" rig
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#398 [02:47] <Kealper> lol
#399 [02:48] <fogWork> Plays the games I like just fine though :P
#400 [02:48] <Kealper> lol
#401 [02:49] <fogWork> Which is like... three of them
#402 [02:49] <Solvius> what can I do with gravel, on the wiki is nothing
#403 [02:50] <Solvius> so nothing ? :)
#404 [02:50] * fogWork compares Gravel with Notch
#404 [02:50] <fogWork> Useless
#405 [02:50] <Solvius> grin
#406 [02:50] <Kealper> use it to not waste better resources with walking through lava lol
#407 [02:50] <aetherian> you......... and I....... whoa we..... will fly.. so high... whoa to..... the sky.........
#408 [02:50] <Solvius> I got tons of it lol
#409 [02:50] <aetherian> ima call it a day
#410 [02:50] <aetherian> night guys
#411 [02:50] <Solvius> goodnight
#412 [02:50] <aetherian> wish me luck on getting this song out of my head
#413 [02:50] <Solvius> no :)
#414 [02:50] <fogWork> Good luck :P
#415 [02:50] <aetherian> at least it's a good song
#416 [02:51] <aetherian> night kelly.
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#418 [02:51] <Kealper> i'll kill you
#419 [02:51] <fogWork> aetherian: wake me up, before you go-go
#420 [02:51] <Kealper> oh god
#421 [02:51] <Kealper> oh god....
#422 [02:51] * fogWork snaps fingers
#422 [02:51] <aetherian> what?
#423 [02:52] * aetherian wakes up fogwork
#423 [02:52] <aetherian> mmk
#424 [02:52] <Kealper> aetherian: must be too young to have that stuck in his head now
#425 [02:52] <aetherian> I'm leaving now
#426 [02:52] <Solvius> look he hassnapping fingers they point everywehere
#427 [02:52] <fogWork> Too young for Wham ;/
#428 [02:52] <aetherian> hmm
#429 [02:52] <aetherian> yeah, darn young people...
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#431 [02:53] <Solvius> cant even make flint out of gravel, gee, you got to find that :(
#432 [02:53] <Kealper> if you try hard enough you can get flint out of it
#433 [02:53] <fogWork> Kealper: mint looks fancy, but I don't like that upstream issue ;P
#434 [02:54] <Kealper> i've noticed no upstream issue :/
#435 [02:54] <fogWork> Do you have 100mbit up? :P
#436 [02:54] <Solvius> lol
#437 [02:54] <Kealper> no, 8 lol
#438 [02:54] <fogWork> I'm sure to notice in that case ;/
#439 [02:55] * Kealper googles said upstream issue
#439 [02:55] <Solvius> you get infrmation about carp's ?
#440 [02:55] <fogWork> Carps? :O
#441 [02:56] <fogWork> I wonder how Slackware is nowadays, last I tried was version 4 or something like that
#442 [02:56] <Solvius> yeah, upstream thingies
#443 [02:57] <Solvius> yesssss, I can buy minecraft for me son, he would be happy today :)
#444 [02:57] <fogWork> Yay ;)
#445 [02:57] <Solvius> finally paypal account is updated :)
#446 [02:57] <Kealper> fogWork: where did you find that thing that said it had issues?
#447 [02:58] <fogWork> Official Mint page for v10, but no further explanation
#448 [02:58] <Solvius> hi meat boy, whats this with the super ?
#449 [02:59] <Kealper> because he's not just a little red peice of meat, he's a super peice of meat, trying to save his girlfriend!
#450 [03:00] <Solvius> ahaa, so he's a hero :)
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#452 [03:00] <Solvius> like mario the plummer
#453 [03:00] <fogWork> Ooh, Mario, finished the lost levels yesterday
#454 [03:01] * fogWork accidently skipped work then
#454 [03:01] <aetherian> oh god
#455 [03:01] <aetherian> oh god no
#456 [03:01] <aetherian> damn you fogwork
#457 [03:01] <Solvius> accidently ?
#458 [03:01] <fogWork> "accidently"
#459 [03:01] * aetherian is away: aurgh
#459 [03:01] * fogWork snickers
#459 [03:02] <Solvius> is it possible to register under an other name on minecraft, if your first name isnt a bit to funny ?
#460 [03:02] <Solvius> *is
#461 [03:03] <fogWork> uuh, what? :P
#462 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> By paying for another account, sure
#463 [03:03] <Kealper> nope, accounts are linked to your username, and not a unique id as they should be (Notch has admitted he screwed up like that)
#464 [03:03] <Solvius> ok, thnx GreyVulpine
#465 [03:03] <Kealper> and what grey said
#466 [03:03] <Solvius> so the name is not connected to an IP adress or so
#467 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> No
#468 [03:04] <Solvius> so you could buy as many copys as ya want then ?
#469 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#470 [03:04] <Solvius> allright
#471 [03:04] <Kealper> fogWork:
#472 [03:04] <Kealper> found more info on that bug
#473 [03:04] <fogWork> Ohoo?
#474 [03:04] <Kealper> Laptops using Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG experience reduced wifi speeds of the order of 1Mb/s. To see if your laptop uses this card, type the following: "lspci -v | grep 3945ABG".
#475 [03:05] <fogWork> Then, Mint it is!
#476 [03:05] <Kealper> looks like intel wireless drivers for specific things just sucked on that release
#477 [03:06] <fogWork> I have this as a backup solution, by the way: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1327/663526853_4d40756fa8.jpg
#478 [03:06] <Kealper> lol
#479 [03:06] <fogWork> I think it's slightly old, but ... "up to date" :P
#480 [03:08] <Solvius> ehmm, one question about it, do I need another email adres when registering another name, or can that be the same ?
#481 [03:08] <Kealper> probably different
#482 [03:08] <Solvius> ok, we try
#483 [03:11] <fogWork> Hrm... KDE, eh, don't think so
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#485 [03:13] * HBH shakes his fist at the mine craft server. "reinstalled java still won't work"
#485 [03:14] <HBH> but what really gets me is 3 people were able to connect and stay connected.
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#489 [03:28] <Solvius> lol, he has trouble ti get himself a proper name :)
#490 [03:29] <Kealper> he does not connect directly to irc
#491 [03:29] <Solvius> he does not know what irc is :)
#492 [03:29] <Kealper> he's got a server in a datacenter that's connected to irc, and he connects to the server to chat
#493 [03:29] <Kealper> when he connects to his server, it changes his name, if he disconncts, it goes back
#494 [03:30] <Kealper> like mine will automatically turn to Kealper[OFF] when i disconnect from my server
#495 [03:30] <Kealper> IRC'ing like a boss...lol
#496 [03:35] <Solvius> all greek names are taken :)
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#498 [03:41] <fogWork> Haha, Kealper, look at http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features under Games & supported software
#499 [03:41] <Solvius> ok, an update, ya can use the same email adres for multiple names :)
#500 [03:41] <Kealper> win
#501 [03:42] <Kealper> @ what fogWork said lol
#502 [03:43] <Solvius> ok, but I think when ya use the name multiple, that it wil give a message that it is taken :) or not...
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#510 [04:00] <bernard> hi
#511 [04:00] <bernard> question
#512 [04:01] <bernard> well you see here i made a server for me and my brother beta server yeah yah.. .i wanna know do they have downloads for worlds?
#513 [04:01] <fogWork> Yes
#514 [04:01] <bernard> website plz?
#515 [04:01] <fogWork> http://minecraft.bschaefer.net/
#516 [04:01] <Kealper> there are places around, but no official one atm
#517 [04:01] <Kealper> and what he said
#518 [04:02] <bernard> kk ty
#519 [04:02] <fogWork> Kealper: don't you have a google module for AuBot? ;P
#520 [04:02] <Kealper> i do but i doubt it works anymore, google has changed so much :/
#521 [04:02] <fogWork> ;/
#522 [04:02] <Kealper> one way to find out!
#523 [04:02] <Kealper> !load mod_google
#524 [04:03] <Kealper> !google Minecraft
#525 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> +google
#526 [04:03] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine has activated the AdvancedGoogle script for #MineCraftHelp .
#527 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> !google minecraft
#528 [04:03] <GreyBot>  Minecraft is a game about placing blocks to build anything you can imagine. At night monsters come out, make sure to build a shelter before that happens. ... http://www.minecraft.net/
#529 [04:03] <GreyBot>  This game requires Java. Press escape to release the mouse. Press B ... http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp
#530 [04:03] <GreyBot>  If you run into out of memory errors, try launching it with java -Xmx1024M ... http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#531 [04:03] <GreyBot>  Minecraft is a sandbox construction game, inspired by Infiniminer, and created by Markus Persson, the founder of Mojang Specifications. ... http://minecraftwiki.net/
#532 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> -google
#533 [04:03] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine has deactivated the AdvancedGoogle script for #MineCraftHelp .
#534 [04:03] <Kealper> !unload mod_google
#535 [04:03] <Kealper> yea, looks like mine is too old
#536 [04:03] <fogWork> Heh
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#545 [04:39] <Kealper> meh...i think i'm off here for a few hours
#546 [04:42] <fogWork> No ;P
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#549 [04:43] <mib_4bbhwt> helllo?
#550 [04:45] <Kealper> hmmmmm.....i think i need to restart my irssi
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#552 [04:47] <Kealper> rawr....one more restart -.-
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#554 [04:52] <Kealper> ok....had to manually edit the stupid config...didn't want to save
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#557 [04:59] <fogWork> AuBot is off to bed, not Kealper? ;P
#558 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Kealper is secretly AuBot in disguise.
#559 [05:00] <fogWork> Sneaky ;)
#560 [05:00] <barrycarlyon> SNEARKY!
#561 [05:00] <barrycarlyon> Like sneaky only worse.
#562 [05:15] <fogWork> hmm, any decent tutorial / guides for minecraft on the youtubes? :P
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#565 [05:18] <BLKOUT> Hi, someone there to help?
#566 [05:18] <barrycarlyon> Depends what your looking for and search is your freind.....
#567 [05:18] <barrycarlyon> BLKOUT: just about.
#568 [05:18] <barrycarlyon> Ask away.
#569 [05:19] <BLKOUT> I have buyed minecraft normaly per paypal but i still getting "Bad Login" when i try to login on the .exe version. And on minecraft.net i can't see my model. Dont know why.. and how i can fix it..
#570 [05:19] <BLKOUT> i know that i write it correctly, and yesterday i tried deleting the .minecraft folder... but it doesn't work either
#571 [05:20] <barrycarlyon> Have you managed to login once succesfully?
#572 [05:21] <BLKOUT> i can login on minecraft.net succesfully. but not in the .exe version on my computer
#573 [05:21] <barrycarlyon> If you ahve then mojang is still having payment fun I velieve the email to write to is daniel@mojang.com or sales@monjang.com
#574 [05:21] <BLKOUT> on the computer of my friend it works with my account
#575 [05:21] <barrycarlyon> It might be a sales problem
#576 [05:21] <barrycarlyon> o
#577 [05:21] <barrycarlyon> thats odd.
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#579 [05:21] <BLKOUT> so i think, i hav an hack or something on my pc
#580 [05:21] <barrycarlyon> virus scan time :-D
#581 [05:22] <BLKOUT> :D okay thx^^
#582 [05:22] <BLKOUT> i think im formating my pc the next week and than it should work
#583 [05:22] <BLKOUT> wish you all a good day^^ see u thanks for help
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#588 [05:41] <Solvius> when ya die, and try to get the items back, some are not to get
#589 [05:41] <Solvius> not collectable
#590 [05:46] <barrycarlyon> I find I manage to get everything but the server likes to leave things visible even tho they are not there.
#591 [05:50] <pischto> Ye just run around the place you died.. Worst thing that can ever happen is falling in lava
#592 [05:52] <Solvius> barrycarlyon ok, thnx
#593 [05:53] <Solvius> pischto ok, I suppose that ya then loose everything you owned
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#598 [05:56] <Focksie> Guys I'm almost running my server
#599 [05:56] <Focksie> I just need to know if I MUST have a static IP in order to forward my ports
#600 [05:57] <pischto> Not really
#601 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> You don't NEED to, it's recommended though
#602 [05:57] <pischto> Better do it though
#603 [05:57] <Focksie> because I can't connect to the server
#604 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> How are you connecting?
#605 [05:57] <Focksie> even though the software is running successfully on the server
#606 [05:57] <Focksie> I can't connect to it from another computer
#607 [05:58] <Focksie> the server is a linux machine running ubunntu 9.10
#608 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> What IP are you using to connect, is this computer on the same LAN, or outside?
#609 [05:58] <Focksie> the server and the computer I'm using to connect are on the same LAN
#610 [05:59] <Focksie> I'm not sure of the IP, thats something I should know....
#611 [06:00] <pischto> Check in your router's web interface
#612 [06:01] <Focksie> the internal or external?
#613 [06:02] <pischto> The one outgoing, connected to the internet
#614 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> Focksie - Could you do ifconfig on the ubuntu machine?
#615 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> See what internal IP it ahs
#616 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> has*
#617 [06:02] <pischto> Well I'm off
#618 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Then use that to connect with the other computer
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#620 [06:09] <Phocksie> Hey this is Focksie
#621 [06:09] <Phocksie> I'm on the linux machine
#622 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> 'lo?
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#624 [06:24] <mib_6571sb> Can I run the Night and Day thing in multiplayer?
#625 [06:24] <mib_6571sb> and can I run mobs?
#626 [06:25] <mib_6571sb> how much of the beta can I run in multiplayer?
#627 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Night and day in MP, yes
#628 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Mobs in MP, yes
#629 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> All of it
#630 [06:28] <mib_6571sb> how do I do that?
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#633 [06:37] <Zw> mib_: Download minecraft server :-)
#634 [06:37] <Zw> from minecraft.net
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#636 [06:39] <mib_6571sb> but its just the free build mode
#637 [06:39] <mib_6571sb> not the survival mode
#638 [06:40] <mib_6571sb> how do I toggle the survival thing?
#639 [06:41] <mib_6571sb> Do I import software to the folder?
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#642 [06:49] <mib_6571sb> #join
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#646 [07:04] <Solvius> can I make dry land when its water ?
#647 [07:05] <Solvius> I mean, I have a piece of sea now, with a blocks around it, and then I lowerd it, but the water doesnt go lower
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#649 [07:09] <pischto> uh ? still don't get it
#650 [07:11] <Solvius> my message pischto ?
#651 [07:11] <pischto> yes
#652 [07:11] <Solvius> ok, I made dykes around a piece of sea
#653 [07:12] <Solvius> try to get a piece of land dry
#654 [07:12] <Solvius> no succes at the moment
#655 [07:12] <pischto> ah well you need to get to the water source and put it in a bucket
#656 [07:12] <pischto> otherwise the water will flow on and on
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#658 [07:22] <Solvius> ISP had a problem
#659 [07:22] <Solvius> back :)
#660 [07:24] <pischto> got my message ?
#661 [07:24] <pischto> or seen what i wrote ?
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#663 [07:26] <Diablothein> Wish me luck! time for school...
#664 [07:28] <mbentley> ugh too early
#665 [07:29] <Solvius> I saw that i have to do it with a bucket, or so
#666 [07:34] <mbentley> anyone else getting 'Took too long to log in' when trying to connect to a smp server?
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#668 [07:35] <mbentley> third time's the charm :)
#669 [07:35] <Solvius> I got that this morning when I wanted to log in on my own thru another pc :) one time, after that NP annymore
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#672 [07:41] <mib_u18q4v> Yo?
#673 [07:41] <mbentley> hi
#674 [07:41] <mib_u18q4v> Anybody else got an error "Connection Lost, Too many Connections!" ?
#675 [07:42] <mbentley> no but that sounds like the server has a limit of connections and it is as its limit
#676 [07:42] <mib_u18q4v> Hm, it says only 3/12 people are in, but the other day there was about 12/12.
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#685 [09:07] <bugweiser> Heuy
#686 [09:08] <bugweiser> Is there a way to check which ip the server chose?
#687 [09:08] <bugweiser> I'm running hmod
#688 [09:08] <bugweiser> I don't know what ip to give up
#689 [09:08] <bugweiser> out*
#690 [09:09] <fogWork> whatsmyip.org
#691 [09:09] <bugweiser> k
#692 [09:09] <bugweiser> so in the server.properties
#693 [09:10] <fogWork> Leave the one in server.properties empty
#694 [09:10] <bugweiser> I leave the server-ip= black
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#696 [09:10] <bugweiser> and then give out my external ip?
#697 [09:10] <fogWork> Yes
#698 [09:10] <bugweiser> kthx
#699 [09:23] <fogWork> Bah, minecraftforum's search option is made out of moldy cakes and lies
#700 [09:23] <mbentley> indeed
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#703 [09:43] <Camel199> Need help creating server, anyone?
#704 [09:43] <mbentley> just ask
#705 [09:45] <Camel199> When i try to start (Start server.bat) im cmd it says 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. how do i fix this ^^
#706 [09:46] <mbentley> Camel199: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorial/Setting_up_a_server
#707 [09:46] <mbentley> Verifying and Installing the Latest Java, step 2
#708 [09:47] <mbentley> if you have java installed, i would suggest skipping to step 3
#709 [09:47] <Camel199> tnx
#710 [09:47] <mbentley> np
#711 [09:47] <Camel199> step 3 is?
#712 [09:48] <mbentley> under 'Verifying and Installing the Latest Java'
#713 [09:48] <mbentley> those instructions also assume you are running a 64 bit version of windows
#714 [09:51] <Camel199> k tnx im trying a newer version of java now ^^
#715 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> Need to put in environment variables
#716 [09:57] <mbentley> if you are running a 32 bit version of windows, step 6 should be to add ";C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin"
#717 [10:06] <Camel199> still not working and now i saved over the old path in system variables
#718 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> What is your path?
#719 [10:07] <Camel199> C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin"
#720 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure that's your path?
#721 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> wait.. is that your entire path in system variables?
#722 [10:08] <Camel199> yeah now it is it was something else before i started this shit :P
#723 [10:09] <mbentley> you didn't delete everything else, did you?
#724 [10:09] <Camel199> yep
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#726 [10:09] <mbentley> what os?
#727 [10:09] <mbentley> you were supposed to append that, not replace it
#728 [10:10] <Camel199> windows 7 64bit
#729 [10:10] <Camel199> yeah i know i tried to append it to, but it did not work so i replaced it
#730 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Did you keep the original anywhere?
#731 [10:11] <mbentley> it should be something like this
#732 [10:11] <mbentley> %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;%SystemRoot%\System32\Windows System Resource Manager\bin;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin
#733 [10:11] <Camel199> no i did not x)
#734 [10:11] <mbentley> grabbed that from my windows 7 x64
#735 [10:13] <Camel199> yeah something like that i tried copying yours now and no change.
#736 [10:13] <Camel199> do i need to reboot?
#737 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> No
#738 [10:14] <mbentley> to make sure java is installed properly, you might check here >> http://javatester.org/version.html
#739 [10:14] <mbentley> if java is installed properly, you should see a pink rectangle below 'The version and vendor from the JRE'
#740 [10:15] <Camel199> ok and it says here... Java Version: 1.6.0_23 from Sun Microsystems Inc.
#741 [10:15] <mbentley> then it is installed properly
#742 [10:16] <Camel199> :S
#743 [10:16] <mbentley> what are the contents of that .bat file you are trying to execute?
#744 [10:16] <mbentley> if it is more than a line or so, use pastebin.com
#745 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Camel199 - Can you do "java -version" in command prompt?
#746 [10:17] <Camel199> no i cant
#747 [10:18] <Camel199> 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
#748 [10:18] <mbentley> then something isn't right with your path variable
#749 [10:18] <mbentley> could you type "echo %PATH%" into a command prompt window?
#750 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> Also, did you open up a NEW command prompt after doing the PATH variable?
#751 [10:20] <Camel199> yeah then i get my path ^^
#752 [10:20] <Camel199> no i dont think i did
#753 [10:22] <mbentley> Camel199: which is?
#754 [10:23] <Camel199> heh it works now when i quit and started a new cmd.. tnx alot guys ^^
#755 [10:23] <mbentley> np
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#757 [10:25] <MuTTe> ok someone who can help me with server hosting?
#758 [10:26] <MuTTe> i've had server before beta
#759 [10:26] <mbentley> what is your issue?
#760 [10:26] <MuTTe> the serverclient is kickign me and my friends..
#761 [10:26] <MuTTe> you mjust log in
#762 [10:26] <MuTTe> it says
#763 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> Wrong server version
#764 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> You got the classic server
#765 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> Instead of the beta?
#766 [10:26] <MuTTe> ah okey
#767 [10:27] <MuTTe> maybe
#768 [10:27] <MuTTe> i downloaded from homepage
#769 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> wrong page probably
#770 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> !server
#771 [10:27] <MuTTe> minecraft.net
#772 [10:27] <MuTTe> ?
#773 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Try that download
#774 [10:27] <MuTTe> ok ty
#775 [10:32] <MuTTe> works fine now :P
#776 [10:32] <MuTTe> ty
#777 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> You probably got the download from clicking the "multiplayer" link in the classic section
#778 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> the beta server download is in the same page as the client
#779 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> bottom of the page
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#781 [10:44] <Camel199> I am abel to create a server now, but when i try to join it it crashes. Can i copy the Error report here?
#782 [10:45] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com
#783 [10:46] <Kealper> also, Camel199 what crashes? the client?
#784 [10:46] <mbentley> Camel199: you probably have the wrong server version. it is likely have a classic server with a beta client.
#785 [10:46] <Camel199> http://pastebin.com/BgrCtd4v
#786 [10:46] <Kealper> what he said, and what i was about to hint
#787 [10:47] <Kealper> indeed
#788 [10:47] <Kealper> !server
#789 [10:47] <Kealper> you most likely got the wrong server
#790 [10:47] <Camel199> dont think so but il try downloading it from your url here
#791 [10:48] <Kealper> before you do
#792 [10:48] <Kealper> easy test
#793 [10:48] <Kealper> is there an exteralurl.txt in your server dir?
#794 [10:48] <Kealper> externalurl.txt*
#795 [10:49] <Camel199> yeah
#796 [10:49] <Camel199> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=d7a9f43b503b42def23aef715d2daa7e
#797 [10:49] <Kealper> then you downloaded the classic server
#798 [10:49] <Kealper> get the one from the link that AuBot said
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#800 [10:49] <Camel199> ok tnx
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#802 [10:52] <Camel199> k now i got minecraft server version Beta 1.1_02
#803 [10:52] <Kealper> make sure you delete all the other server's files first
#804 [10:52] <Kealper> since it's different, it won't play well with the beta server
#805 [10:54] <xmasta> hmm, in multiplayer i can still set difficulty level from options on my client
#806 [10:54] <xmasta> how does this affect others on server?
#807 [10:55] <xmasta> or can the difficulty be set on server command somehow?
#808 [10:55] <Kealper> it doesn't affect it
#809 [10:55] <Kealper> currently multiplayer is stuck in Normal mode
#810 [10:55] <xmasta> i see, thanks
#811 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Unless you turn off monsters and animals
#812 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> then it turns to peaceful
#813 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> including all hp regen
#814 [10:56] <Kealper> and what he said
#815 [10:56] <xmasta> noes that would be boredom, i waited with my purchase til they got monstars to mp
#816 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> They've had monsters in MP since the beginning
#817 [10:56] <xmasta> my mp had only animals that were unkillable
#818 [10:57] <xmasta> dno where you see the monsters since beginning
#819 [10:57] <xmasta> saw*
#820 [10:57] <Kealper> there have always been monsters in multiplayer, they were just disabled by default in the server config
#821 [10:57] <Kealper> since damage did not work
#822 [10:57] <Kealper> until recently
#823 [10:58] <xmasta> well, same difference then, that means they werent usable til now and so now i bought it
#824 [10:58] <xmasta> is there an easy way to put password on server?
#825 [10:58] <Kealper> nope
#826 [10:59] <xmasta> so the easyest way to limit the access would be what, whitelist?
#827 [10:59] <Kealper> best way to protect a blank install is to just not tell people the address unless you can trist them
#828 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Yes, but can't whitelist with a normal server
#829 [10:59] <Kealper> even a whitelist requres a mod
#830 [10:59] <Kealper> trust*
#831 [11:00] <xmasta> duduh, i was wondering mby the server reports to some master server and i'm on a list or something
#832 [11:00] <Kealper> nope, only classic uses a master server
#833 [11:01] <xmasta> okay, maybe i'll just change the port, is that simple?
#834 [11:01] <mbentley> server.properties
#835 [11:01] <mbentley> and yes
#836 [11:01] <Kealper> as long as you know how to forward the new port, it only takes a few seconds
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#839 [11:02] <xmasta> sure, if port wasnt available then my next pick would have been different forward on router for outside world to access me
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#841 [11:03] <xmasta> mbentley, i'm on windows, is that file somewhere in local settings etc?
#842 [11:03] <mbentley> in the server directory
#843 [11:03] <xmasta> ahha, here it is
#844 [11:03] <Kealper> the server created it when you ran it the first time
#845 [11:03] <xmasta> is the world also here somewhere?
#846 [11:04] <Kealper> in that folder called world :P
#847 [11:04] <xmasta> ok i see it, i just put that file in the download folder so theres some other mess also..
#848 [11:04] <xmasta> server.* minecraft_server.exe and /world, thats all?
#849 [11:04] <Kealper> not the best place to be running the server from :/
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#851 [11:05] <xmasta> yeah, i will move it now:)
#852 [11:05] <Kealper> would be unfortunate if you accidentally deleted something when clearing your downloads folder
#853 [11:05] <mbentley> i have admins.txt banned-ips.txt banned-players.txt minecraft_server.jar world ops.txt server.log server.log.lck server.properties
#854 [11:05] <xmasta> okay thanks
#855 [11:06] <mbentley> can always sort by date to make it easier ;)
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#858 [11:07] <Xerati> lol
#859 [11:07] <Xerati> mine are all in my downloads folder
#860 [11:08] <xmasta> mine are not anymore!
#861 [11:08] <Kealper> mine is in it's own folder....with an actively updating mirror of said world folder on to a second harddrive, and that mirror has redundant backups because i'm paranoid like that
#862 [11:10] <mbentley> lol Kealper sounds like mine with an extra level of paranoia
#863 [11:10] <Kealper> i've got weekly, daily, and hourly rar'd backups lol
#864 [11:11] <mbentley> i just do bi-hourly backups and keep them for the past 3 days
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#866 [11:11] <xmasta> but then you're away for a weekend and dont play for a day and then you discover your 3day stuff is all gg!
#867 [11:12] <xmasta> now go add some backup :P
#868 [11:12] <mbentley> haha
#869 [11:13] <Kealper> i've got a program that automatically clears the hourly backups after they are more than 24 hours old, and daily/weekly backups are overwritten, so i don't have to worry about it getting out of hand :P
#870 [11:14] <mbentley> yeah, i just do a find * -mtime +5 -exec rm {} \;
#871 [11:14] <Kealper> lol
#872 [11:14] <mbentley> well +3
#873 [11:14] <Kealper> windows isn't that cool
#874 [11:15] <mbentley> hehe
#875 [11:15] <Kealper> brb
#876 [11:17] <mib_bk47v4> i have a problem when i type the codes and the other things in the correct fields then it says when i press the button:
#877 [11:17] <mib_bk47v4> Transaction error An error occured and your purchase was not completed Message from server: authentication denied. If you need to contact the shop please use the following reference ID: 107467252 Firstname: Dr. Gerda Carina Last name: Schindler E-mail: schlampad_production@web.de
#878 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> In... buying minecraft?
#879 [11:18] <mib_bk47v4> ?
#880 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> What fields? Where?
#881 [11:18] <mib_bk47v4> minecraft
#882 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> Are you buying minecraft?
#883 [11:19] <mib_bk47v4> the credit fields
#884 [11:19] <mib_bk47v4> yes
#885 [11:19] <mib_bk47v4> but it doesn't work
#886 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> From the credit card form, or paypal?
#887 [11:19] <mib_bk47v4> form
#888 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> What are you using to buy it with?
#889 [11:19] <mib_bk47v4> visa
#890 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> Visa credit card?
#891 [11:19] <xmasta> whats the difference between spawn-monsters and monsters variables?
#892 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> Prepaid?
#893 [11:20] <mib_bk47v4> yes
#894 [11:20] <mib_bk47v4> no it isn't a prepaid
#895 [11:20] <barrycarlyon> !check barrycarlyon.servegame.org
#896 [11:20] <mib_bk47v4> there i can buy it?
#897 [11:20] <mbentley> monsters apparently toggles mobs in caves, right?
#898 [11:21] <mbentley> spawn-monsters is on the surface, yes?
#899 [11:21] <barrycarlyon> My console has stalled. I blame something I did in screen.
#900 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_bk47v4 - Want to try paypal?
#901 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> You might have better luck there
#902 [11:21] <mib_bk47v4> ok
#903 [11:25] <Kealper> ok back
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#907 [11:35] <slimer> i have a problem when i start minecraft then it says Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 04.01.11 17:31 Minecraft: Minecra
#908 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Update your video drivers
#909 [11:36] <slimer> and so on
#910 [11:36] <slimer> ok
#911 [11:36] <slimer> i will test it
#912 [11:36] <Kealper> it says right in it to update your video card drivers :/
#913 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> People never read those things
#914 [11:36] <mbentley> reading?
#915 [11:36] <Kealper> true....i wish they would, though
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#917 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> Pfft. It's a block of text to them
#918 [11:37] <slimer> :D sorry i am too lazy
#919 [11:37] <mbentley> reminds me of the one time i read something. it was awesome.
#920 [11:37] <slimer> but it says the video card drivers is on the newest stand
#921 [11:37] <Kealper> seems like it would have been less work to read that, see that it said to update video card drivers, than to find out the help irc, and join it :/
#922 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> the newest stand?
#923 [11:38] <Kealper> slimer: age of computer?
#924 [11:38] <slimer> i have the newest card drivers
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#926 [11:38] <slimer> sorry i am not so good at english i am 14 and i am from austria :D
#927 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure about that?
#928 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Where did you check?
#929 [11:38] <slimer> yes
#930 [11:38] <slimer> my computer checked it
#931 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> How
#932 [11:38] <slimer> ok i will show on the homepage
#933 [11:39] <slimer> i have the NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT
#934 [11:39] <Kealper> this video needs to get done converting before i've got to leave for a few hours...i'd hate to be stuck away for like 3 hours without anything to watch :/
#935 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> That should be more than enough to play minecraft
#936 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> You just need to update it from the right place
#937 [11:40] <genshou-sleeping> Failfox ;v
#938 [11:40] <Kealper> slimer: http://nvidia.com
#939 [11:40] <genshou-sleeping> It locked up last night, so I left it
#940 [11:40] <genshou-sleeping> still completely frozen when I woke up
#941 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> kill -9 it
#942 [11:41] <genshou-sleeping> I buried it ;D
#943 [11:41] <Kealper> so does this mean the nightly builds of firefox are better, and more stable than the production builds? lol
#944 [11:41] <genshou-sleeping> It locks up a lot on break.com actually
#945 [11:41] <Kealper> are you sure that
#946 [11:41] <genshou-sleeping> some stupid ad they run doesn't like the Mac version of Firefox :v
#947 [11:41] <Kealper> that's not just an issue with flash?
#948 [11:42] <genshou-sleeping> very probable
#949 [11:42] <Kealper> woot..video done converting, with 10 min left before i've got to go lol
#950 [11:43] <genshou-sleeping> slimer, I run Minecraft with Far rendering distance and a 128x128 bumpmapped texture pack with a mod to introduce smoother lighting. My video card's not as good as yours :P
#951 [11:43] <genshou-sleeping> Probably just need to get the latest driver update from Nvidia and it'll work fine
#952 [11:43] * genshou-sleeping goes now to sign his new lease :D
#952 [11:43] <genshou-sleeping> Woot new 3-bedroom townhouse
#953 [11:44] <slimer> i don't find my videocard i only find the newer version of my video card
#954 [11:44] <mbentley> slimer: what os?
#955 [11:44] <slimer> no windows
#956 [11:45] <mbentley> but what os?
#957 [11:45] <slimer> 64 bit or what do you mean?
#958 [11:45] <mbentley> i mean the name of your operating system
#959 [11:45] <slimer> jeah windows 7
#960 [11:45] <slimer> 64 bit
#961 [11:45] <slimer> Ultimate
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#964 [11:46] <mbentley> http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-260.99-whql-driver-all.html
#965 [11:47] <slimer> jeah i found it ty
#966 [11:47] <mbentley> np
#967 [11:47] <slimer> i will test it when it doesn't work i will ask :D
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#969 [11:49] <Kealper> ok 5 min till i leave, be back in a few hours
#970 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> Laters
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#972 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Well then, guess it worked.
#973 [12:00] <mbentley> :)
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#980 [12:07] <Denis> #MineCraftHelp Collaboration - Minecraft Forums
#981 [12:07] <Denis> 'sup people? ;) Check whether a given nickname from the community, sometimes even notch will be ignored.
#982 [12:08] <mbentley> howdy
#983 [12:09] <Denis> Yep, our map is getting 888gb avg monthly.
#984 [12:09] <Rompa> im pushing 80 people through on a 25/25 fios line
#985 [12:10] <mbentley> that's quite a chunk of data
#986 [12:11] * xolotl wishes They would hurry up and get fios in my area already
#986 [12:12] <Rompa> yeah
#987 [12:13] <Rompa> its in my server room
#988 [12:13] <DopeGhoti> xolotl: all that needs to happen is for me to move there, and then move away.
#989 [12:13] <Denis> i think its more of a server do i have multiple orgasms every time
#990 [12:13] <DopeGhoti> seems wherever I leave is _the_ next place to get FIOS or FTTP
#991 [12:13] <Rompa> Fios - medium tier - it had better upload than the business line
#992 [12:13] <Rompa> yes
#993 [12:13] <Rompa> Its much faster
#994 [12:13] <Rompa> its the way to go
#995 [12:13] <Denis> Fios medium tier it had better upload than the average orgasm.
#996 [12:13] <Denis> yes, my password is
#997 [12:14] <Rompa> you'd need to RAID 0 3 or 4 SSD's to get the same speed
#998 [12:14] <Denis> how much montly for that
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#1000 [12:14] <bas> hi
#1001 [12:14] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: Ha
#1002 [12:14] <bas> i have a problem
#1003 [12:14] <Denis> lay down the opposite way, tits up, on top of I
#1004 [12:14] <Denis> we will need to raid 4 4 or 4 ssd's to get help
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#1006 [12:14] <mbentley> bas: what's up?
#1007 [12:14] <DopeGhoti> bas: how can we help?
#1008 [12:14] <Denis> bas what's up
#1009 [12:14] <bas> everytime i join a server its says, failed to connect cannot verify username
#1010 [12:15] <bas> :(
#1011 [12:15] <DopeGhoti> Are you able to log into www.minecraft.net ?
#1012 [12:15] <bas> i buyd the game
#1013 [12:15] <bas> yes
#1014 [12:15] <bas> my friends can join the server but i cant
#1015 [12:16] <mbentley> how long ago did you buy it?
#1016 [12:16] <bas> a week ago i didnt have this problem
#1017 [12:16] <bas> pff
#1018 [12:16] <bas> month ago i think
#1019 [12:16] <mbentley> ah ok
#1020 [12:17] <Rompa> tards
#1021 [12:18] <DopeGhoti> bas: When was the last time you logged into www.minecraft.net?
#1022 [12:18] <bas> euhm
#1023 [12:18] <bas> 3 days ago
#1024 [12:18] <bas> yes
#1025 [12:19] <DopeGhoti> Were you able to log into servers three days ago?
#1026 [12:19] <bas> yes
#1027 [12:19] <DopeGhoti> Are you having this problem on all servers, or just one?
#1028 [12:19] <bas> all the servers
#1029 [12:19] <bas> i think
#1030 [12:19] <bas> lol
#1031 [12:19] <bas> let me try
#1032 [12:19] <DopeGhoti> please do.
#1033 [12:21] <bas> does any1 have a ip for me ?
#1034 [12:22] <bas> cant find one ! :|
#1035 [12:22] <mbentley> bas: pm
#1036 [12:25] <mbentley> hmm, that is very strange bas
#1037 [12:26] <mbentley> !paid Rico4000
#1038 [12:28] <bas> yea
#1039 [12:28] <bas> strange
#1040 [12:28] <mbentley> i don't see why it would be doing that offhand
#1041 [12:30] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: what are you seeing in your server logs?
#1042 [12:30] <bas> thnx for the help do
#1043 [12:31] <bas> im gonna try some stuff
#1044 [12:31] <bas> cyaa
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#1046 [12:31] <mbentley> 2011-01-04 12:25:23 [INFO] Disconnecting Rico4000 [/94.213.230.2:51368]: Failed to verify username!
#1047 [12:31] <mbentley> 2011-01-04 12:25:29 [INFO] Disconnecting Rico4000 [/94.213.230.2:51370]: Failed to verify username!
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#1049 [12:31] <DopeGhoti> Very odd if ey was able to log into the site.
#1050 [12:31] <DopeGhoti> but since bas is gone.. *shrug*
#1051 [12:32] <Rompa> Ah, ok. Mine's about 2.4GB at the moment
#1052 [12:32] <Rompa> SLowly going up as people build
#1053 [12:32] <Rompa> Ah gotcha
#1054 [12:32] <DopeGhoti> Rompa: that's.. that's a big map.
#1055 [12:32] <Rompa> No. My last world was 2500r. We came close to maxxing it out, but beta came out
#1056 [12:32] <Rompa> And I reset the map
#1057 [12:32] <Rompa> What's the nomad clan?
#1058 [12:33] <Rompa> Oh ok :P
#1059 [12:33] <Rompa> (talking to myself)
#1060 [12:33] <Rompa> I liked the Curse server when I was on it a few weeks ago while you guys were setting up some stuff
#1061 [12:33] <Rompa> But... you're gonna have a pain in the ass on your hands at some point
#1062 [12:33] <Rompa> You have a large audience
#1063 [12:33] <Rompa> And MC can only support but so much
#1064 [12:33] <Rompa> >.<
#1065 [12:34] <Rompa> Premium accounts would be a good way to go I think
#1066 [12:34] <Rompa> Would entice more sales, too.
#1067 [12:34] <DopeGhoti> ...You talk to your self, a lot?
#1068 [12:34] <Rompa> True, but then so can donations
#1069 [12:35] <Rompa> Like...
#1070 [12:35] <WASD> lol
#1071 [12:35] <Rompa> If you have a public server
#1072 [12:35] <Rompa> But give perks to donors
#1073 [12:35] <Rompa> Most people will feel they're required to donate to experience the full server
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#1075 [12:35] <Rompa> True
#1076 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> (what just happened?)
#1077 [12:37] <WASD> he talked quite a lot
#1078 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> It got to the point where I checked my /ignore list twice
#1079 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> and it's _empty_
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#1081 [12:42] <MuTTe> I got a question here for someone.. :P
#1082 [12:42] <MuTTe> My server is jelling about the system all the time..
#1083 [12:42] <MuTTe> "can't keep up! did u change the time..
#1084 [12:43] <MuTTe> and so on..
#1085 [12:43] <MuTTe> can i fix this?
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#1087 [12:43] <MuTTe> someone got an answer on this issue?
#1088 [12:44] <xolotl> MuTTe: have some patience, sheesh. Don't worry about that message, everyone gets that.
#1089 [12:45] <Camel199> I have started a server and no one can join but me, i think its becouse i have not opened a port, how do i open one?
#1090 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> Camel199: http://www.portforward.com
#1091 [12:45] <MuTTe> okey ty
#1092 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> Camel199: though, is this on a dedicated server, or is it on a home PC behind a router?
#1093 [12:46] <Camel199> home pc on a mobile connection
#1094 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> Camel199: 'mobile connection' as in 'cellular internet'?
#1095 [12:48] <Camel199> something like that yeah
#1096 [12:48] <DopeGhoti> Oh joy.
#1097 [12:48] <Camel199> hehe
#1098 [12:49] <Camel199> its 1mb in and out so its enough for minecraft i would think
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#1100 [12:49] <DopeGhoti> enough throughput? Probably. Latency will be an issue I suspect.
#1101 [12:49] <xmasta> cant rail properly
#1102 [12:50] <xmasta> have to do with rocketlauncher
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#1105 [13:04] <hJulvort> I have the same problem as last time i asked but maybe someone knows something, My port is Open. My static ip is there. My minecraft server is up and my firewall is as off as it can be. Still people get stuck on "Login" when they try to connect.
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#1108 [13:10] <martyman91> hey guys, trying to play minecraft on multiplayer, but when my server is up, its just say "you need to log in", what is the problem ? have anyone els got the same problem ?
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#1111 [13:14] <hJulvort> lost connection: disconnect.endOfStream, it says some time when they connect
#1112 [13:14] <xmasta> hmm, made a new world, but nothing in it is usable, every tree or grass piece i try to collect spawns back
#1113 [13:15] <xmasta> made it by naming in server.properties world name 01
#1114 [13:15] <xmasta> why is the world "read only" ..
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#1117 [13:19] <i81u812> can you go into the nether on peaceful? and if so is there still enemies?
#1118 [13:19] <xolotl> i81u812: You can, and there aren't.
#1119 [13:20] <i81u812> is there anything special there?
#1120 [13:20] <i81u812> I havent went yet I didnt know about it till recently, well I knew about it but not how to get there
#1121 [13:22] <xolotl> There are three block types only found in the Nether
#1122 [13:22] <xolotl> (one of which, glowstone, is especially useful)
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#1124 [13:22] <Datguy> Howdy I have a problem with minecraft.net
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#1126 [13:23] <i81u812> glowstone?
#1127 [13:23] <xolotl> glowstone.
#1128 [13:24] <i81u812> like red stone or siffers?
#1129 [13:24] <i81u812> differs?
#1130 [13:24] <xolotl> i81u812: minecraftwiki.net
#1131 [13:24] <xolotl> It's different, yes.
#1132 [13:24] <i81u812> yeah yeah I know
#1133 [13:24] <i81u812> but thats what help chat is for...
#1134 [13:25] <Datguy> I'm trying to buy the game but the "I have read the terms of use agreement" button doesn't work
#1135 [13:26] <Datguy> It's covered bu the "gift codes are now avaliable" banner
#1136 [13:32] <xolotl> Datguy: Hm, the text is right on top of it?
#1137 [13:32] <xolotl> Ah well
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#1140 [13:37] <Simen> Hello
#1141 [13:38] <Simen> Do you guys know how I set up a survival server? I followed this guide: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=836 but my server is classic
#1142 [13:40] <Simen> Anyone?
#1143 [13:40] <mbentley> Simen: http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#1144 [13:40] <Mikau> That guide is probably for setting up a classic server.
#1145 [13:41] <Mikau> Did you purchase a paid Minecraft account?
#1146 [13:42] <DopeGhoti> Mikau: you don't need an account to run a server
#1147 [13:42] <DopeGhoti> !server
#1148 [13:43] <Mikau> No, but there really is no point in running one if you can't play on it.
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#1152 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> Mikau: true, but those are different issues :)
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#1158 [14:14] <Simen> I have purchased minecraft acc yes
#1159 [14:15] <Simen> So I have to set up a new server?
#1160 [14:15] <Simen> mbentley
#1161 [14:15] <lemon-rev> only if you what to be a host
#1162 [14:15] <lemon-rev> yes
#1163 [14:15] <mbentley> ^^^
#1164 [14:15] <lemon-rev> other from that your free to do what you wish
#1165 [14:15] <Simen> But will my server me survival if I follow this guide? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorial/Setting_up_a_server
#1166 [14:16] <lemon-rev> yes
#1167 [14:16] <lemon-rev> unless you turn that off,
#1168 [14:16] <Simen> Automatically? or do I have to change settings?
#1169 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> !server
#1170 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> ^If you get your server from one of those links, it will be Survival.
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#1172 [14:17] <Simen> So what do I choose here: Download minecraft_server.exe from the Minecraft multiplayer page or download custom server software elsewhere.
#1173 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> if you want support here, the former.
#1174 [14:18] <Simen> Isnt that the easiest option also?
#1175 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> generally.
#1176 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> in that 'custom' usually implies '-ization'
#1177 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> which can be parsed as 'work'.
#1178 [14:19] <DopeGhoti> time for eats.
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#1180 [14:19] <Simen> But I can edit my server to for example show a message to all that joins my server if I download minecraft_server.exe?
#1181 [14:19] <mbentley> not without mods
#1182 [14:19] <Solvius> yeah, i would want to know that to :)
#1183 [14:20] <mbentley> there isn't MOTD support in beta
#1184 [14:20] <Simen> Mods, can I use Hey0 here?
#1185 [14:20] <Simen> Isn't it?
#1186 [14:20] <Solvius> well no mod support here huh? :)
#1187 [14:20] <mbentley> you can use it but there is only so much we can support
#1188 [14:20] <mbentley> it would be too hard to support mods since there isn't a proper mod plugin system yet
#1189 [14:21] <Solvius> everybody is making his own mod, I suppose
#1190 [14:22] <Simen> So if I create a server with minecraft_server.exe, I have the same commands as on a classic server?
#1191 [14:22] <Simen> Or do I get more options here?
#1192 [14:22] <mbentley> no
#1193 [14:22] <mbentley> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties#Alpha_Keys
#1194 [14:23] <Simen> Okay good
#1195 [14:23] <Simen> Thank you guys for all help! :)
#1196 [14:23] <Simen> Maybe I get more problems later :P
#1197 [14:24] <mbentley> i'm sure someone will be here
#1198 [14:24] <lemon-rev> always the case but do as you can for nw
#1199 [14:24] <lemon-rev> now*
#1200 [14:26] <Simen> Multiplayer alpha server software - Do I choose Minecraft_Server.exe or minecraft_server.jar?
#1201 [14:26] <mbentley> depends on if you have windows or linux/osx
#1202 [14:27] <Simen> Windows
#1203 [14:27] <mbentley> then the .exe will be fine
#1204 [14:27] <Simen> Good
#1205 [14:27] <mbentley> it is pretty much spelled out in crayon here >> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorial/Setting_up_a_server
#1206 [14:28] <Simen> Yes sorry
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#1208 [14:28] <Simen> But I dont have the textfile called admin.txt, can I just create one?
#1209 [14:29] <mbentley> yeah
#1210 [14:29] <Simen> Does it matter if my op textdocument is called ops.txt and not op.txt?
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#1212 [14:31] <mbentley> ops.txt is correct
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#1214 [14:33] <Lawll> Hi. I've sent an e-mail to Notch about my stolen account one week ago. When will he reply?
#1215 [14:33] <mbentley> what email address did you try to contact?
#1216 [14:34] <Lawll> markus@mojang.com
#1217 [14:35] <mbentley> might try support@mojang.com or payment@mojang.com
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#1219 [14:36] <Lawll> I've already sent an email to those address, too
#1220 [14:36] <Lawll> also to notch@mojang.com
#1221 [14:36] <Lawll> But still no reply.
#1222 [14:37] <mbentley> i am not really sure what else you can do
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#1225 [14:40] <lemon-rev> damm do i love finding big deposits of coal
#1226 [14:41] <Simen> Okay nice, I now have a survival server up and going
#1227 [14:42] <lemon-rev> whats your ip, you can also check it to make sure someone else can do so
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#1229 [14:42] <Simen> my external ip?
#1230 [14:42] <lemon-rev> or can connect to your server
#1231 [14:42] <lemon-rev> no your isp ip
#1232 [14:42] <Simen> the 192.?
#1233 [14:42] <lemon-rev> hm
#1234 [14:42] <lemon-rev> 192.168 lol theres it depends on the number
#1235 [14:42] <lemon-rev> its ifs like 0.2 0.1
#1236 [14:42] <lemon-rev> or some shit like that
#1237 [14:43] <Simen> 192.168.0.1
#1238 [14:43] <lemon-rev> thats your router
#1239 [14:43] <lemon-rev> no
#1240 [14:43] <Simen> I think that is the one
#1241 [14:43] <lemon-rev> thats your router
#1242 [14:43] <lemon-rev> hm
#1243 [14:43] <mbentley> whatismyip.org will tell you your external ip
#1244 [14:43] <lemon-rev> http://vaevictus.net/minecraft/
#1245 [14:43] <lemon-rev> check
#1246 [14:43] <lemon-rev> lol
#1247 [14:43] <Simen> 80.203.55.44
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#1249 [14:43] <Simen> Yes, my external ip
#1250 [14:44] <Simen> port 25565
#1251 [14:44] <lemon-rev> !check 80.203.55.44
#1252 [14:44] <lemon-rev> sweet
#1253 [14:46] <Burnskagen> hey people
#1254 [14:46] <Burnskagen> do you remember me?
#1255 [14:46] <Burnskagen> anyway
#1256 [14:46] <Burnskagen> I used to get the "Connection timeout error" when connecting to my serv from somewhere else
#1257 [14:46] <Simen> My server works :D
#1258 [14:47] <Burnskagen> I realized that I have a different router than I told you
#1259 [14:47] <Burnskagen> so I did stuff
#1260 [14:47] <Burnskagen> and now I am getting another error
#1261 [14:47] <Burnskagen> "Connection refused"
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#1263 [14:48] <mbentley> i forgot your setup
#1264 [14:48] <mbentley> server and client on same system? how are you trying to connect?
#1265 [14:48] <iSpartan> Ohhhhh Kealpeerrrr
#1266 [14:48] <iSpartan> Kealperrr?
#1267 [14:48] <iSpartan> Kealper? =|
#1268 [14:48] <iSpartan> <_< >_>
#1269 [14:49] <Burnskagen> I have been running from different ip's (friend's)
#1270 [14:49] <mbentley> iSpartan: Jan-04 11:49 <@Kealper> ok 5 min till i leave, be back in a few hours
#1271 [14:49] <Burnskagen> They connect to my IP
#1272 [14:49] <iSpartan> Awww ;__;
#1273 [14:49] <iSpartan> Kealper buddy left
#1274 [14:50] <Burnskagen> !check 85.164.193.162
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#1276 [14:50] <Burnskagen> hey bentley
#1277 [14:51] <Burnskagen> what should I do?
#1278 [14:51] <mbentley> so you can see them trying to connect?
#1279 [14:51] <Burnskagen> I have spoken to McAfee support
#1280 [14:51] <Burnskagen> no I can't
#1281 [14:51] <Burnskagen> they get "Connection timeout" and from canyouseeme.com I get connection refused
#1282 [14:51] <Burnskagen> they don't show up in my console
#1283 [14:52] <mbentley> but you can still connect locally, right?
#1284 [14:52] <Burnskagen> yup
#1285 [14:52] <iSpartan> ?
#1286 [14:52] <iSpartan> Have you paid?
#1287 [14:52] <iSpartan> Have you paid for Minecraft..
#1288 [14:52] <Burnskagen> Indeed
#1289 [14:52] <mbentley> then it pretty much has to be that port forwarding isn't set up properly or there is still a firewall blocking the connection
#1290 [14:52] <iSpartan> What's your username? = \
#1291 [14:52] <iSpartan> Wait
#1292 [14:52] <iSpartan> You're trying to host a server?
#1293 [14:52] <Burnskagen> BurNskAgeN
#1294 [14:52] <Burnskagen> yes
#1295 [14:53] <Burnskagen> You probably want me to uninstall McAfee bentley
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#1297 [14:53] <Burnskagen> but the McAfee webpage is fucked up
#1298 [14:53] <Burnskagen> so I wouldn't be able to reinstall
#1299 [14:53] <Burnskagen> (Cause I have electronical copy)
#1300 [14:53] <Burnskagen> It gives me "XML error" or sumtink
#1301 [14:53] <mbentley> Burnskagen: did you did try to connect to the server from another computer on your local network?
#1302 [14:54] <Burnskagen> I have tried that too
#1303 [14:54] <mbentley> and it doesn't work, right?
#1304 [14:54] <Burnskagen> didn't work either
#1305 [14:54] <mbentley> yeah, then it HAS to be a firewall on your pc
#1306 [14:54] <Burnskagen> The McAfee support told me to contact my router
#1307 [14:54] <Burnskagen> anyways
#1308 [14:54] <mbentley> you should be able to use the local ip address of the server to connect from another client
#1309 [14:54] <Solvius> maybe 127.0.0.1 ?
#1310 [14:55] <mbentley> he can do that
#1311 [14:55] <Burnskagen> localhost
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#1313 [14:55] <iSpartan> .. .
#1314 [14:55] <Burnskagen> localhost is ok right?
#1315 [14:55] <Burnskagen> that's what I tried
#1316 [14:55] <mbentley> localhost = 127.0.0.1
#1317 [14:55] <Simen> Is it possible to load a classic world map in a survival server? The only file from classic server map is server_level that is a DAT file
#1318 [14:55] <Seiniyta> Hey
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#1320 [14:56] <Simen> Sorry if I'm interrupting
#1321 [14:56] <slot9> Can someone fill me in on how to make a regular server that interconnects with a nether server?
#1322 [14:56] <mbentley> slot9: you can't
#1323 [14:56] <Seiniyta> I have a small problem myself, every time I launch minecraft the controls are back to default.
#1324 [14:56] <slot9> ohhh . mbently, how are they going to do it in the future?
#1325 [14:56] <slot9> has notch said?
#1326 [14:57] <mbentley> eventually
#1327 [14:57] <slot9> fair enough
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#1329 [14:57] <xolotl> slot9: It'll probably be a bit; it'll basically be the same mechanic that'll let you set up gates between arbitrary servers, theoretically
#1330 [14:58] <Seiniyta> anybody who can help me fix the controlls issue I have?
#1331 [14:58] <Burnskagen> no
#1332 [14:58] <Burnskagen> jk
#1333 [14:58] <Burnskagen> bad joke
#1334 [14:58] <Burnskagen> very bad joke
#1335 [14:58] <Burnskagen> extremely bad joke
#1336 [14:58] <Burnskagen> super bad joke
#1337 [14:58] <Burnskagen> <.<
#1338 [14:58] <mbentley> Burnskagen: sorry, be back later. i have a meeting to go to. ya know, that whole work thing. they expect me to actually do stuff
#1339 [14:58] * Burnskagen hides
#1339 [14:58] <Burnskagen> ok bye
#1340 [14:59] <zelda> hi can someone help me ive had my account now for about 5 months and when i tryed to recover it today it said user unrecogized and funny thing is ive have the right email cause i have the bill emailed to it
#1341 [14:59] <Burnskagen> lawl omg
#1342 [14:59] <Burnskagen> probably a wrong pass or something then lawl
#1343 [15:00] <Burnskagen> l0wl
#1344 [15:00] <Burnskagen> L0Wl
#1345 [15:00] <zelda> obviously it isnt because i used my email -.-
#1346 [15:00] <Seiniyta> so, nobody knows the answer to my issue (controlls resetting to default every time I launch minecraft)
#1347 [15:00] <Burnskagen> Seiniyta
#1348 [15:00] <Burnskagen> I had that problem on my laptop
#1349 [15:00] <Burnskagen> what OS are you running?
#1350 [15:01] <Seiniyta> Windows 7 32 bit
#1351 [15:01] <Seiniyta> desktop
#1352 [15:02] <Burnskagen> Try deleting the .minecraft folder in appdata, redownload the minecraft file and run
#1353 [15:02] <Burnskagen> but be sure to backup your saves
#1354 [15:02] <Burnskagen> you know how to find it?
#1355 [15:02] <Seiniyta> yes, and I think I already tried that
#1356 [15:02] <Seiniyta> but I'll try again
#1357 [15:03] <zelda> can anyone answer my question ?
#1358 [15:03] <Burnskagen> wait a second zelda
#1359 [15:03] <zelda> k
#1360 [15:04] <Burnskagen> Seiniyta, I think that is caused by updates
#1361 [15:04] <Burnskagen> but it happens everytime?
#1362 [15:04] <Seiniyta> yes
#1363 [15:05] <Burnskagen> you could try to go into multiplayer
#1364 [15:05] <Seiniyta> since I don't have a qwerty keyboard, but a azerty one. the normal WASD movement for qwerty keyboards obviously doesn't feel right
#1365 [15:05] <Burnskagen> and enter localhost while you are NOT running a server
#1366 [15:06] <Burnskagen> then let it fail to connect
#1367 [15:06] <Burnskagen> I have heard of people fixing it that way
#1368 [15:06] <Burnskagen> Not sure why, but people say it works so...
#1369 [15:06] <Burnskagen> worth a shot
#1370 [15:06] <Burnskagen> So zelda
#1371 [15:07] <zelda> yes
#1372 [15:07] <iSpartan> o.o
#1373 [15:07] <Burnskagen> You don't remember your password?
#1374 [15:07] <zelda> i couldnt remember my password or username so i tryed my email but it didnt work
#1375 [15:07] <zelda> but i have the bill in my email
#1376 [15:08] <Burnskagen> Could you give me a link to the recovery page?
#1377 [15:08] <zelda> sure
#1378 [15:08] <zelda> http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#1379 [15:09] <Simen> Is it possible to load a classic world map in a survival server? The only file from classic server map is server_level that is a DAT file
#1380 [15:09] <Seiniyta> that indeed (oddly enough) fixed it!
#1381 [15:09] <Seiniyta> thanks
#1382 [15:09] <Burnskagen> So, what error do you get?
#1383 [15:09] <Burnskagen> no problem
#1384 [15:09] <zelda> me right ?
#1385 [15:09] <Burnskagen> yeah you
#1386 [15:09] <zelda> Couldn't find that user
#1387 [15:10] <Burnskagen> Do you have other emails you could have used?
#1388 [15:10] <Burnskagen> parhaps the payment uses another
#1389 [15:10] <Burnskagen> I don't remember
#1390 [15:10] <Burnskagen> but it is totally possible
#1391 [15:10] <zelda> i have 2 email that i use regularly
#1392 [15:10] <Burnskagen> tried both?
#1393 [15:10] <zelda> and neither worked
#1394 [15:10] <Burnskagen> :X
#1395 [15:10] <Kealper> rawr
#1396 [15:11] <Burnskagen> Well, "Don't hesitate from sending me an email"
#1397 [15:11] <Burnskagen> send notch an email
#1398 [15:11] <Burnskagen> I think that is the only solution :)
#1399 [15:11] <zelda> i have sent one to markus and daniel
#1400 [15:11] <Burnskagen> They aren't answering?
#1401 [15:11] <zelda> but thank you for your help
#1402 [15:11] <zelda> well i sent about 30 mins ago
#1403 [15:12] <Seiniyta> lol, in that case be patient :)
#1404 [15:12] <Burnskagen> Well, happy waiting ;)
#1405 [15:12] <Burnskagen> Simen
#1406 [15:12] <Kealper> both of them get thousands of emails per day, it could take a while, or they might even not see the email amidst the spam
#1407 [15:12] <Burnskagen> are you still here?
#1408 [15:12] <Burnskagen> Simen?
#1409 [15:12] <zelda> o.o
#1410 [15:12] <Kealper> Simen: no, they are different if no one answered your question yet
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#1412 [15:13] <Burnskagen> HELLLLOOO!
#1413 [15:13] <Kealper> O.o
#1414 [15:13] <Burnskagen> I have been waiting for you Zidonuke
#1415 [15:13] <Burnskagen> for a long-ass time
#1416 [15:13] <Kealper> long ass-time
#1417 [15:13] <Zidonuke> o.o?
#1418 [15:13] <Kealper> immature ftw!
#1419 [15:13] <Burnskagen> finally you come on
#1420 [15:14] <Burnskagen> ?o.o
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#1422 [15:14] <zelda> kealper how long would i need to wait to get an email back
#1423 [15:14] <mib_vfcovg> hey i just had a minecraft crash
#1424 [15:14] <mib_vfcovg> can you help?
#1425 [15:14] <Burnskagen> yup
#1426 [15:14] <Burnskagen> we can
#1427 [15:14] <Kealper> zelda: if they have seen it, typically 1-2 days
#1428 [15:14] <mib_vfcovg> ill upload the screen shot
#1429 [15:14] <Kealper> any longer than that, and it was probably lost in the spam
#1430 [15:15] <Burnskagen> Does restarting work mib?
#1431 [15:15] <zelda> oh ok so how does the spam work. as i was mature in my emails
#1432 [15:15] <Burnskagen> cause if it do then it isn't really a problem ;)
#1433 [15:15] <Kealper> mib_vfcovg: what sort of crash? where the window turns to a blue-purple and has a window with text in it saying "Minecraft has crashed!
#1434 [15:15] <Kealper> "*
#1435 [15:15] <Simen> Yes
#1436 [15:15] <Simen> Im here
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#1438 [15:16] <Simen> What did you guys say?
#1439 [15:16] <Burnskagen> It wont work
#1440 [15:16] <Burnskagen> gtfo
#1441 [15:16] <Burnskagen> IM KIDDING!
#1442 [15:16] <Simen> It wont?
#1443 [15:16] <Kealper> O.o
#1444 [15:16] <mib_vfcovg> no, error report, its in a executable jar file
#1445 [15:16] <Burnskagen> it wont work
#1446 [15:16] <Simen> Damn :/
#1447 [15:16] <Kealper> Simen: no, the format is different
#1448 [15:16] <mib_vfcovg> im running ubuntu 10.10
#1449 [15:16] <Simen> Thats boring :(
#1450 [15:16] <Burnskagen> it is indeed good sir
#1451 [15:16] <Burnskagen> now gtfo
#1452 [15:16] <Burnskagen> KIDDING AGAIN!
#1453 [15:16] <Burnskagen> XD
#1454 [15:16] <Burnskagen> XDXDXD
#1455 [15:16] <Burnskagen> immature ftw
#1456 [15:16] <Burnskagen> <.<
#1457 [15:17] <Burnskagen> >.<
#1458 [15:17] <Burnskagen> well, mib
#1459 [15:17] <Burnskagen> is it so that minecraft wont start?
#1460 [15:17] <mib_vfcovg> hold on
#1461 [15:17] <Kealper> woh...just like....crashed my ssh client
#1462 [15:18] <mib_vfcovg> file:///home/rich/Desktop/Screenshot.png
#1463 [15:18] <mib_vfcovg> my bad, let me try that again
#1464 [15:18] <Burnskagen> It worked
#1465 [15:18] <Simen> :P
#1466 [15:18] <Burnskagen> so simen
#1467 [15:18] <Kealper> mib_vfcovg: http://imgur.com
#1468 [15:19] <mib_vfcovg> yay going now
#1469 [15:19] <Simen> Okay my server is now running. Is there anything more I can do now? Set up motd or something?
#1470 [15:20] <Burnskagen> Yes you can set up mods and stuff
#1471 [15:20] <Kealper> Simen: not without modding it, if you started the beta server, it's pretty much good to go as-is
#1472 [15:20] <Simen> Do you guys have any mods to recommend?
#1473 [15:21] <Burnskagen> I'm sorry guys
#1474 [15:21] <Burnskagen> I'm sorta drunk
#1475 [15:21] <Burnskagen> I should gtfo
#1476 [15:21] <Kealper> hMod is usually a must-have if you want a customized server, but mods are out of the scope of this channel
#1477 [15:21] <mib_vfcovg> http://imgur.com/9nFox
#1478 [15:21] <mib_vfcovg> thats it
#1479 [15:21] <Kealper> that's a weird error....
#1480 [15:22] <mib_vfcovg> i know
#1481 [15:22] <Kealper> do you have more than one Minecraft open? (maybe a rogue one in the background?)
#1482 [15:22] <mib_vfcovg> nope
#1483 [15:22] <Kealper> positive?
#1484 [15:22] <mib_vfcovg> yes
#1485 [15:22] <Burnskagen> DAMN YOU MCAFEE
#1486 [15:23] <Kealper> has it ran for you before?
#1487 [15:23] <Kealper> eew....mcafee....
#1488 [15:23] <Burnskagen> the idiots that made their page have nested a div wrong so I can't login
#1489 [15:23] <Burnskagen> I get xml-parse error
#1490 [15:23] <Burnskagen> so I can't log the fuck in
#1491 [15:23] <mib_vfcovg> i was able to play yesterday i had a crash caused by nvidia and then i had to restore my graphics to default mode
#1492 [15:23] <Kealper> stop using IE :/
#1493 [15:23] <i81u812> whats the best use for gold in your opinion anyone chime in
#1494 [15:23] <Burnskagen> >:
#1495 [15:23] <Burnskagen> I DOnT use Ie
#1496 [15:23] <Kealper> i81u812: coating apples
#1497 [15:23] <i81u812> ??
#1498 [15:24] <Burnskagen> GoLD is best for good design
#1499 [15:24] <i81u812> oh yeah 10 hearts
#1500 [15:24] <Burnskagen> make stuff
#1501 [15:24] <Burnskagen> no gold is better to make fun thks
#1502 [15:24] <Kealper> mib_vfcovg: oh? try reinstalling the latest drivers from http://nvidia.com
#1503 [15:24] <i81u812> you mean like makeing a room out of gold?
#1504 [15:24] <Burnskagen> yes that shit
#1505 [15:24] <Kealper> you can also make a watch out of it
#1506 [15:24] <mib_vfcovg> it wont crash my computer again?
#1507 [15:24] <Burnskagen> nah
#1508 [15:24] <i81u812> making
#1509 [15:24] <Burnskagen> you can just pretend to
#1510 [15:24] <Burnskagen> >:D
#1511 [15:24] <mib_vfcovg> it was a bitch trying to restore it
#1512 [15:25] <Kealper> mib_vfcovg: it shouldn't....quite a lot of people run the latest nvidia drivers on ubuntu
#1513 [15:25] <Burnskagen> he IS indeed a bitch
#1514 [15:25] <mib_vfcovg> ok
#1515 [15:25] <Burnskagen> but he's my bitch
#1516 [15:25] <Burnskagen> lol
#1517 [15:25] <Kealper> /ignore Burnskagen
#1518 [15:25] <Burnskagen> lol
#1519 [15:25] <Simen> Is it possible to give my minecraft server more ram?
#1520 [15:25] <Kealper> Simen: yes, if you use the jar
#1521 [15:25] <i81u812> I like ubuntu but not as much as i use to running a dual os boot I kinda dont hate Win.7 as much as I use to hate others which made me love linux
#1522 [15:26] <i81u812> if that makes sense
#1523 [15:26] <Simen> Im using the .exe file
#1524 [15:26] <Kealper> but the jar is recommended that you know what you are doing
#1525 [15:26] <Coll> going from windows to linux is a bitch
#1526 [15:26] <Coll> :<
#1527 [15:26] <Burnskagen> u shuld use teh .jar if u r ubuntu
#1528 [15:26] <Burnskagen> lawlz
#1529 [15:26] <Burnskagen> from the j to the a to the r
#1530 [15:26] <Simen> I found out that I can put this in a run.bat and run that: "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+CMSIncrementalPacing -XXarallelGCThreads=2 -jar minecraft_server.jar
#1531 [15:27] <mib_vfcovg> what do i put in for product type/series and product
#1532 [15:27] <Kealper> Simen: you don't have to put all that
#1533 [15:27] <Simen> Ah
#1534 [15:27] <mib_vfcovg> it wont automatically find my drivers
#1535 [15:27] <Burnskagen> SIMEN U R DANISH NO?
#1536 [15:27] <Burnskagen> sorry caps lock
#1537 [15:27] <Burnskagen> simen
#1538 [15:28] <Kealper> mib_vfcovg: no idea, i've not used nvidia cards in ages
#1539 [15:28] <Simen> I'm Norwegian ;)
#1540 [15:28] <Burnskagen> oh
#1541 [15:28] <Burnskagen> Me too
#1542 [15:28] <Burnskagen> where do you live?
#1543 [15:28] <Burnskagen> oslo?
#1544 [15:28] <Burnskagen> bergen?
#1545 [15:28] <Simen> Bergen
#1546 [15:28] <Simen> :P
#1547 [15:28] <Burnskagen> me too
#1548 [15:28] <Burnskagen> that's sort of cool XD
#1549 [15:28] <Simen> Kult
#1550 [15:28] <Simen> :P
#1551 [15:28] <Burnskagen> kult
#1552 [15:28] <Burnskagen> no I speak a vietnamese
#1553 [15:28] <Burnskagen> I am fromteh vietnam
#1554 [15:28] <Simen> Nice
#1555 [15:29] <Burnskagen> men jeg forstår norsk da
#1556 [15:29] <Simen> Flott :p
#1557 [15:29] <mib_vfcovg> this is quite a silence no?
#1558 [15:29] <Kealper> wow irssi sucks at what i assume were umlauts
#1559 [15:29] <Burnskagen> bare tuller, jeg er bare Norsk
#1560 [15:29] <Burnskagen> me and my bad humor
#1561 [15:29] <Burnskagen> XD
#1562 [15:29] <Burnskagen> I'll caaaaaaaalm down
#1563 [15:30] <Kealper> mib_vfcovg: still can't find said driver download?
#1564 [15:30] <Simen> :P
#1565 [15:30] <Burnskagen> I am a tad drunk
#1566 [15:30] <Burnskagen> but it's wearing of
#1567 [15:30] <Burnskagen> At least I learned to never ever go into a chatbox while drunk XD
#1568 [15:31] <mib_vfcovg> then whats the best nvidia driver for minecraft on ubuntu 10.10
#1569 [15:31] <Simen> Is it possible to get help with hey0?
#1570 [15:31] <Kealper> sadly, if you are drunk, you'll probably not remember that lesson
#1571 [15:31] <Kealper> Simen: type /join #hey0
#1572 [15:31] <Burnskagen> I don't think mods are working yet
#1573 [15:31] <Burnskagen> At least I get errors
#1574 [15:31] <Kealper> huh?
#1575 [15:31] <mib_vfcovg> i hate nvidia
#1576 [15:31] <Burnskagen> java.socket something
#1577 [15:31] <Kealper> mods work.....
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#1579 [15:33] <Simen> #hey0 Cannot send to channel
#1580 [15:33] <mib_vfcovg> im sorry kealper my comp is acting up, wht do you mean by "still can't find said driver download?"
#1581 [15:33] <Kealper> mib_vfcovg: i mean't could you find the driver that you needed?
#1582 [15:33] <mib_vfcovg> how?
#1583 [15:34] <mib_vfcovg> it wont do it automatically
#1584 [15:34] * Kealper grumbles and then remembers why he hates Ubuntu.....
#1584 [15:34] <Kealper> mib_vfcovg: card?
#1585 [15:35] <mib_vfcovg> i dont know my grphics card
#1586 [15:35] <Kealper> this is probably going to come off as condescending and rude, but why are you using Ubuntu and not Windows?
#1587 [15:36] <DoomGiver> This isn't a tech support question, but I'm having problems with a minecart system. Anyone here pro's with boosters? :D
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#1589 [15:36] <Kealper> DoomGiver: multiplayer or single?
#1590 [15:36] <TesseractToo> hello
#1591 [15:36] <Kealper> hello
#1592 [15:36] <mib_vfcovg> my windows is screwed up, it wont work with anything but IE, and acivex prevents me from doing anything
#1593 [15:36] <DoomGiver> mulitplayer D:
#1594 [15:36] <DoomGiver> i know its more buggy there
#1595 [15:37] <mib_vfcovg> beleive me, if i had a choice id use wimdows for gaming
#1596 [15:37] <DoomGiver> but i got it to slightly work. I just cant get a booster that doesnt need to keep going in ciricles
#1597 [15:37] <DoomGiver> it ends up just stopping cuz minecraft cant handle it
#1598 [15:37] <Kealper> mib_vfcovg: half that made no sense, but it was probably a virus or something...reinstalling it would have fixed it
#1599 [15:37] <DoomGiver> easier to explain if I could show you later
#1600 [15:37] <DoomGiver> when your done helping mib
#1601 [15:37] <Kealper> DoomGiver: i can multitask....sort of lol
#1602 [15:38] <TesseractToo> I have a modding question, is this the channel to go to?
#1603 [15:38] <Burnskagen> no
#1604 [15:38] <DoomGiver> read the rules :D like I did just now lol
#1605 [15:38] <mib_vfcovg> no, already did it, the problem is with the internet connection and windows, java for windows wont run it
#1606 [15:38] <Kealper> TesseractToo: it really depends on what the question was
#1607 [15:38] <TesseractToo> I don't see a rules link in the topic
#1608 [15:39] <DoomGiver> kealper can i send you my server IP or are you busy right now? :D
#1609 [15:39] <TesseractToo> well I'd like to make new blocks
#1610 [15:39] <Kealper> DoomGiver: go for it, i could check out what you had
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#1612 [15:39] <Kealper> TesseractToo: that's quite an advanced mod, and it'd be a clientside one, which Notch does not like, and if Notch does not like it, this channel doesn't either :/
#1613 [15:40] <TesseractToo> ok I wasn't aware of that sorry
#1614 [15:40] <TesseractToo> I wanted to make a jungle biome
#1615 [15:40] <Kealper> TesseractToo: normally i'd point you towards the correct channel, but i don't even know what would be the correct one for something that low-level
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#1617 [15:41] <Kealper> and afaik there is jungle biomes
#1618 [15:41] <Denis> Let's talk about year.
#1619 [15:41] <Kealper> wat
#1620 [15:41] <TesseractToo> really? with palm trees?
#1621 [15:41] <Denis> Community-powered support for Mojang
#1622 [15:41] <Kealper> oh, not with those
#1623 [15:41] <Kealper> just thick trees
#1624 [15:42] <TesseractToo> I've been around and I've seen meadows, forest, snowy areas and desert and under water
#1625 [15:42] <TesseractToo> a friend and I were thinking of improving the under water with new objects but if that's a no-no there's not a lot that can be done
#1626 [15:43] <TesseractToo> odd because people are adding in new animals, I wonder what the issue with mew statics would be
#1627 [15:43] <TesseractToo> *new
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#1629 [15:45] <Kealper> never said those types of mods were not possible, just that they take quite a lot of skill
#1630 [15:45] <mib_vfcovg> SOLVED, i had to reinstall it
#1631 [15:45] <mib_vfcovg> thanks guys
#1632 [15:46] <TesseractToo> mmm yeah I'ma 3D modeller
#1633 [15:46] <TesseractToo> texturing a cube would be easy for me
#1634 [15:46] <TesseractToo> I've also made some character skins for practice
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#1637 [15:48] <TesseractToo> I made these 4 yestereday http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=124798
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#1639 [15:48] <TesseractToo> so skinning is no probs
#1640 [15:49] <Burnskagen> I have uninstalled mcAfee, disabled windows firewall and all I achieve is not even being able to connect myself
#1641 [15:49] <TesseractToo> but it would be good to have things like proper firniture
#1642 [15:50] <TesseractToo> furniture (pardon my dyslexia)
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#1644 [15:50] <Burnskagen> I am reinstalling McAfee
#1645 [15:50] <TesseractToo> I've been making due with steps and blocks and the like
#1646 [15:50] <Burnskagen> boviously that's not the problem
#1647 [15:50] <Burnskagen> *obviously
#1648 [15:51] <TesseractToo> what is the name of the modding channel?
#1649 [15:52] <Burnskagen> Do my friends need to adjust their settings too to be able to join a server?
#1650 [15:52] <Burnskagen> they can join other peoples
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#1652 [16:05] <aetherian> augh
#1653 [16:05] <aetherian> what happened to my chips
#1654 [16:06] <barrycarlyon> I ate them.
#1655 [16:06] <aetherian> I swear, they were right in my closet when I left
#1656 [16:06] <TesseractToo> yeah I think that's it thanks bildramer
#1657 [16:06] <CruelNoise> hahahaha
#1658 [16:07] <CruelNoise> everyone in #minecraft is angry
#1659 [16:07] <CruelNoise> because notch said the n-word on twitter
#1660 [16:07] <BarryCarlyon> CruelNoise: like that?
#1661 [16:07] <BarryCarlyon> ANGRY!
#1662 [16:07] <CruelNoise> ANGRY!
#1663 [16:07] <BarryCarlyon> Lol.
#1664 [16:07] <BarryCarlyon> NO ANGRY!!
#1665 [16:07] * BarryCarlyon goes green
#1665 [16:08] * BarryCarlyon explodes
#1665 [16:13] <Corporal_Dirge> Is there any way to keep iBus running and still play Minecraft?
#1666 [16:14] <aetherian> oh my god, awesome
#1667 [16:14] <aetherian> there's gonna be a water mod
#1668 [16:14] <aetherian> now I can't take a bath in peace
#1669 [16:14] <Corporal_Dirge> I thought all the mobs already swam.
#1670 [16:14] <aetherian> nonono
#1671 [16:14] <aetherian> like
#1672 [16:15] <aetherian> a water specific mob.
#1673 [16:17] <aetherian> oh yay
#1674 [16:17] <aetherian> chip get
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#1680 [16:24] <Kaito> Why wont the texture pack i downloaded show up in the texture pack selection window?
#1681 [16:25] <TraceYaromi> Anyone willing to help me with PVS support? I have a post in the forums that shows exactly what's happening...
#1682 [16:25] <Kaito> it's a 16x16 (i believe), and i googled where to put it, but it still wont show up
#1683 [16:26] <TraceYaromi> No one loves us Kaito
#1684 [16:26] <JUUD0LF> I bought Minecraft but it says "User not premium". How do I fix this, if I can?
#1685 [16:28] <Diablothein> just bought?
#1686 [16:28] <Kaito> I know Trace
#1687 [16:28] <Kaito> :(
#1688 [16:29] <TraceYaromi> Maybe we need to bait them
#1689 [16:29] <Diablothein> It takes up to a day or so to go through the system
#1690 [16:29] <Diablothein> Kaito, you have to put the texture pack into the minecraft textures folder, as a .zip file
#1691 [16:29] <JUUD0LF> Oooooh....
#1692 [16:29] <Diablothein> Trace, no dice, can't help
#1693 [16:29] <TraceYaromi> WOO
#1694 [16:30] <TraceYaromi> I'm difficult! :D
#1695 [16:30] <Diablothein> No, I just don't feel like it :D
#1696 [16:30] <TraceYaromi> No one does it seems
#1697 [16:30] <Kaito> ooh, as a zip?
#1698 [16:30] <Kaito> that helps
#1699 [16:30] <Kaito> thank you
#1700 [16:31] <Kaito> yay :)
#1701 [16:31] <TraceYaromi> well if anyone does "feel like it" heres the forum post to show what's happening http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=124648
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#1703 [16:35] <TesseractToo> thanks all :)
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#1705 [16:35] <Simen> When a friend of mine is trying to connect to my server he gets "Unknown host"
#1706 [16:36] <dopeghoti> Simen: what is ey typing in when attempting to connect?
#1707 [16:37] <Simen> I got it now
#1708 [16:38] <Simen> He copy & pasted :P
#1709 [16:38] <Simen> But how do I found back to my spawn?
#1710 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> Simen: use a compass. it points to the spawn.
#1711 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> (or, die, but..)
#1712 [16:39] <aetherian> just die
#1713 [16:40] <Simen> Ah thanks
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#1715 [16:49] <CuZnDragon> Hello, curious if this is a known problem or not....
#1716 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> yes, ending things with four periods happens far too often.
#1717 [16:50] <CuZnDragon> I logged off of the single player game. Then when I logged back on the next day I didn't have anything and at a different spot than I logged off or my original spawn spot.
#1718 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> CuZnDragon: someone else may have used your computer, possibly?
#1719 [16:51] <CuZnDragon> Nope only I use this. Wife has her own computer.
#1720 [16:51] <CuZnDragon> And she plays on it.
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#1722 [16:53] <CuZnDragon> Because this new spot I was at was a small island with only sand and clay on it I tried to swim to another island and didn't make it. When I respawned I was back on that same island.
#1723 [16:53] <CuZnDragon> Not back to my original spawn point.
#1724 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> did you drunkenly restart your game this past weekend?
#1725 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> :)
#1726 [16:57] <CuZnDragon> Nope. No longer allowed to drink with the meds I take... *frown*
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#1729 [16:58] <CuZnDragon> Just wondering what could change your spawn location as well as start as if you respawned...
#1730 [16:58] <CuZnDragon> Plus wanted to check before mentioning it as a possible bug....
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#1735 [17:18] <xolotl> I did have a spawnpoint reset itself at some point on me, on an SMP map that I run
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#1737 [17:18] <xolotl> That may have been related to some Halloween-and-beyond updates, though
#1738 [17:18] <xolotl> 'cause the map predated Halloween
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#1742 [17:21] <xolotl> 'course that didn't involve any inventory-loss; just the spawn moved was all.
#1743 [17:21] <amphibulus> ok im trieng to start a new game and i deleted the world folder an even renamed the level name
#1744 [17:22] <amphibulus> nothing worked
#1745 [17:23] <amphibulus> any thoughts?
#1746 [17:26] <Kaito> um...my default texture pack has been replaced...how do i get it back?
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#1749 [17:36] <amphibulus> anyone here to help
#1750 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> We try.
#1751 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> amphibulus: is the game you're trying to restart SMP or SSP?
#1752 [17:38] <amphibulus> lolwut?
#1753 [17:38] <Foe> He means are you in a multiplayer or single player game?
#1754 [17:39] <amphibulus> multi
#1755 [17:39] <amphibulus> single is obvious how to restart
#1756 [17:42] <CuZnDragon> I am on linux but so far all I have had to do is delete the directory of the world
#1757 [17:42] <amphibulus> soo wat do i do
#1758 [17:42] <amphibulus> i did that
#1759 [17:42] <amphibulus> still same world
#1760 [17:42] <amphibulus> an no world folder
#1761 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> shut down the server, delete world, start server back up
#1762 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> in that order.
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#1764 [17:42] <amphibulus> i did that
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#1766 [17:42] <amphibulus> its shut down now
#1767 [17:43] <OldSnake> can anyone here try connecting to my server plz?
#1768 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> OldSnake: IP?
#1769 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> !check 98.28.12.70
#1770 [17:43] <Solvius> how can I create such a big chest ?
#1771 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> OldSnake: ^
#1772 [17:44] <amphibulus> place side by side
#1773 [17:44] <iSpartan> Kealper?
#1774 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> Solvius: put two chests next to each other.
#1775 [17:44] <iSpartan> Kealper??
#1776 [17:44] <iSpartan> <_< >_>
#1777 [17:44] <Solvius> ok thnx :)
#1778 [17:44] <OldSnake> hmm
#1779 [17:45] <Solvius> nice :)
#1780 [17:46] <OldSnake> i got my server working once, but i had to reset my router so the ports went away
#1781 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> OldSnake: http://portforward.com has walkthrough for opening ports on most routers.
#1782 [17:46] <OldSnake> i opened it again
#1783 [17:46] <OldSnake> 25565
#1784 [17:46] <OldSnake> as TCP
#1785 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> !check 98.28.12.70
#1786 [17:47] <OldSnake> !check 98.28.12.70
#1787 [17:47] <Kealper> rawr? was getting dinner
#1788 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> mmm, food
#1789 [17:47] <OldSnake> *sigh* i'm having so much trouble with running a server
#1790 [17:48] <iSpartan> KEALPERRR
#1791 [17:48] <iSpartan> !
#1792 [17:48] <OldSnake> i have the To IP adress set at my ipv4
#1793 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> OldSnake: check your server.properties. If the IP is specified, don't.
#1794 [17:48] <OldSnake> i didnt
#1795 [17:48] <lukegb> !check pwnnetwork.net
#1796 [17:48] <OldSnake> if i did i couldnt even connect
#1797 [17:49] <OldSnake> !check 98.28.12.70
#1798 [17:49] <OldSnake> yay
#1799 [17:49] <amphibulus> so no one can help me then
#1800 [17:49] <Kealper> amphibulus: with?
#1801 [17:49] <amphibulus> starting a new worl
#1802 [17:49] <OldSnake> on SP?
#1803 [17:49] <OldSnake> or MP
#1804 [17:49] <Kealper> what part did you need to know about?
#1805 [17:49] <amphibulus> multi
#1806 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> amphibulus: again: shut down server, delete world, start server back up, enjoy new world
#1807 [17:50] <Kealper> stop server, delete or rename the world folder, start server
#1808 [17:50] <OldSnake> or rename the world server
#1809 [17:50] <amphibulus> i deleted the world folder an changed level name
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#1811 [17:50] <OldSnake> folder*
#1812 [17:50] <amphibulus> i did alll that
#1813 [17:50] <amphibulus> still sameplace
#1814 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> if you deleted it, how did you rename it?
#1815 [17:50] <Diablothein> Ghoti, dude, they fail'd at telling me how to forward ports on my WRT310N
#1816 [17:50] <amphibulus> the server properties is outside the folder
#1817 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> that's normal.
#1818 [17:50] <OldSnake> Diablo
#1819 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> Diablothein: hence 'most'
#1820 [17:51] <OldSnake> thats a linksys right?
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#1822 [17:51] <Diablothein> mhm
#1823 [17:51] <Diablothein> and I hate it.
#1824 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> also, one linksys is generally much like another.
#1825 [17:51] <OldSnake> and you go to 192.168.1.1 right?
#1826 [17:51] <OldSnake> or some variation
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#1829 [17:51] <Diablothein> 192.168.0.1
#1830 [17:51] <OldSnake> whats the screen look like?
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#1832 [17:51] <OldSnake> to make sure its the same as mine
#1833 [17:51] <Diablothein> Dude, no worries, I've given up on trying to set up my PS3, so, yeah.
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#1835 [17:52] <OldSnake> im using the e2000 and havent had any troubles
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#1837 [17:52] <Diablothein> :| Seriously, though, you can set your PS3 as DMZ and it'll change the NAT type to 2... NOTHING! :|
#1838 [17:53] <OldSnake> oh are you talking about NAT type and not opening a port
#1839 [17:54] <OldSnake> ?
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#1841 [17:54] <Kealper> opening (forwarding) a port would be done through nat
#1842 [17:57] <iPischto> Depends
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#1844 [17:57] <aetherian> !ping
#1845 [17:57] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.44 Seconds.
#1846 [17:57] <ferdinand> hey
#1847 [17:58] <ferdinand> quick question
#1848 [17:58] <lukegb> !ping
#1849 [17:58] <GreyBot> lukegb Your Ping time was 0.511 Seconds.
#1850 [17:58] <lukegb> My ping time, or my bnc's...
#1851 [17:58] <Kealper> yours i would assume
#1852 [17:58] <Kealper> i don't think bncs respond to those
#1853 [17:58] <lukegb> Mine does, I *think*
#1854 [17:58] <Kealper> mine is probably horrible though
#1855 [17:58] <Kealper> !ping
#1856 [17:59] <GreyBot> Kealper Your Ping time was 2.724 Seconds.
#1857 [17:59] <ferdinand> i can run minecraft trough terminal but it lags my entire computer, but when I run it as an executable jar i get an error report?
#1858 [17:59] <ferdinand> any ideas
#1859 [17:59] <lukegb> Yay, irssi
#1860 [17:59] <Kealper> has ctcp flood protection....meaning it takes it's sweet time responding :/
#1861 [18:00] <Kealper> WirelessIRC? is that your bnc?
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#1863 [18:00] * Kealper googles
#1863 [18:01] <rexraymond> #### guys where can i find the plugin for /jumpto for minecraft
#1864 [18:01] <Kealper> S60.....a phone? lol
#1865 [18:01] <ferdinand> ?
#1866 [18:01] <Kealper> rexraymond: this is not the help channel for 3rd party mods
#1867 [18:01] <rexraymond> kealper is there one?
#1868 [18:01] <Kealper> ferdinand: what os?
#1869 [18:02] <Kealper> rexraymond: #hey0
#1870 [18:02] <Kealper> hMod support channel
#1871 [18:02] <rexraymond> i cant talk in there
#1872 [18:02] <iPischto> ferdinand: What os ?
#1873 [18:02] <ferdinand> ubuntu
#1874 [18:02] * iSpartan Tackles Kealper
#1874 [18:02] <iSpartan> KEALPERRR =D\
#1875 [18:02] <Kealper> http://forum.hey0.net then, there is a list of plugins on there
#1876 [18:02] <ferdinand> srry
#1877 [18:03] <iPischto> What's the error rep saxing ?
#1878 [18:03] <iPischto> Say*
#1879 [18:03] <Kealper> iSpartan: wut?
#1880 [18:03] <ferdinand> hold on, iv gota upload it
#1881 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> (what's with all the iPeople in here?)
#1882 [18:03] <iSpartan> Miss me buddyyyy D:
#1883 [18:03] <Kealper> ikr?
#1884 [18:03] <iSpartan> Whyy you hate me WHYYYY? ;__;
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#1886 [18:04] <Solvius> I found the bottom of the map, where you see those special black and grey blocks, but I see those blocks also higher up, is that normal? cant break them with a iron pick
#1887 [18:04] <iPischto> I use it cause i'm on iphone atm ;)
#1888 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> Solvius: yes, that's normal; the adminium layer is not flat.
#1889 [18:04] <Solvius> ok thnx
#1890 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> Solvius: cheers
#1891 [18:04] <Solvius> thnx :)
#1892 [18:05] <ferdinand> http://imgur.com/9nFox
#1893 [18:05] <Kealper> dope that was so british lol
#1894 [18:05] <ferdinand> there
#1895 [18:05] <iPischto> And Solvius dont jump in the void ;)
#1896 [18:05] <Foe> So I have a question about SMP servers: My computer is normally connected wirelessly, but I had to connect it via wire today for a short amount of time and now it seems like my server no longer functions. I've had no issues up until this happened today and I was wondering what that might affect to make it function this way?
#1897 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> (Newbie story time- the first time I hit Adminium I thought it was diamonds as I didn't know they were blue (: )
#1898 [18:05] <Solvius> no I wont, I have read about that
#1899 [18:05] <Kealper> i remember you ferdinand >.>
#1900 [18:05] <ferdinand> is that good?
#1901 [18:05] <aetherian> that's scare
#1902 [18:05] <aetherian> uh
#1903 [18:05] <aetherian> in smp
#1904 [18:05] <aetherian> what does it mean
#1905 [18:05] <aetherian> connection lost
#1906 [18:05] <aetherian> end of stream
#1907 [18:05] <aetherian> ?
#1908 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> Foe: your computer may have gotten a new IP address when you connected it via ether
#1909 [18:05] <Kealper> normally no, but it was because you used the same image earlier
#1910 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> Foe: check your computer's IP against your port forwarding settings
#1911 [18:06] <ferdinand> me?
#1912 [18:06] <Foe> Ah, okay. I'll take a look at that right now Dope, thanks for the help.
#1913 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#1914 [18:07] <ferdinand> i dont know why it lags my computer when i call it from terminal
#1915 [18:07] <Kealper> ferdinand: didn't reinstalling your graphics drivers fix it?
#1916 [18:08] <iPischto> ferdinand: Has to be sth with drivers.. Whats you graphic card ?
#1917 [18:08] <Foe> Gold star for Dope, and a slap on the head for me for being absolutely retarded.
#1918 [18:08] <Kealper> an nvidia one
#1919 [18:08] <ferdinand> guess not
#1920 [18:08] <ferdinand> hold on let me find it
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#1922 [18:09] <iPischto> Mmh
#1923 [18:09] * DopeGhoti stashes the gold star with all the rest
#1923 [18:09] * DopeGhoti is saving up for a magic +
#1923 [18:09] <ferdinand> is there a website to check it for me>
#1924 [18:09] <ferdinand> ?*
#1925 [18:09] <Kealper> shhhh
#1926 [18:10] <Kealper> i did nothing >.>
#1927 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> what are you talking about? :)
#1928 [18:10] <iPischto> You mean a site to see what card you are using ? You drunk mate ?
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#1930 [18:11] <Kealper> dope, just note that with the +, your name is now at the top of the userlist, and people will be like randomly going OMFGHALP lol
#1931 [18:11] <Miclee> I can has +v?
#1932 [18:11] * Kealper sighs
#1932 [18:11] <Kealper> i guess
#1933 [18:11] <Miclee> :D
#1934 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I'm here to help, so that's cool.
#1935 [18:11] <Miclee> Thanks
#1936 [18:12] <Kealper> but that's only because you're op in #minecraft lol
#1937 [18:12] <ferdinand> GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
#1938 [18:12] <ferdinand> i think thats it
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#1940 [18:12] <Kealper> ferdinand: has that ever worked before?
#1941 [18:12] <iPischto> Onboard I guess
#1942 [18:12] <Kealper> wait
#1943 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> Morning, peru. How's central america treating you?
#1944 [18:12] <Kealper> nvm i remember
#1945 [18:12] <Kealper> it did
#1946 [18:12] <ferdinand> yes, with my friends monitor
#1947 [18:12] <Kealper> and yes it is iPischto
#1948 [18:12] <Miclee> Kealper, I'm a moderator on Mojang's bug tracker. :P
#1949 [18:13] <Kealper> Miclee: oh yea, and that too lol
#1950 [18:13] <peru> hi my nickname is taken from my surname, not my location on planet earth
#1951 [18:13] <iPischto> Holy cow, time to upgrade ? (:
#1952 [18:13] <Kealper> i'd hate to moderate GS....too much stupid in there :/
#1953 [18:13] <Miclee> It gets frustrating sometimes, yes.
#1954 [18:14] <Kealper> ferdinand: have you tried restarting your computer?
#1955 [18:14] <ferdinand> yes
#1956 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> I hope that GS gets a better S:N soon. :/
#1957 [18:14] <Kealper> S:N? wut?
#1958 [18:14] <ferdinand> am i missing a nvidia driver
#1959 [18:15] <ferdinand> is that why its lagging?
#1960 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> Signal to Noise ratio. On GS, there's way too much cruft for it to be useful, as best I can tell
#1961 [18:15] <ferdinand> my entire comp
#1962 [18:15] <iPischto> Well the game says so
#1963 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> too many people who think "Yes, this fixed tthe pproblem" is an upvote.
#1964 [18:15] <Kealper> ferdinand: it could be a very crappy ubuntu driver, 1 sec
#1965 [18:15] <ferdinand> oh
#1966 [18:15] <ferdinand> ok
#1967 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> GS != Digg or Reddit.
#1968 [18:15] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: OH YEA....man i hate that
#1969 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> </derail>
#1970 [18:16] <Kealper> ferdinand: is your Ubuntu install 32bit or 64bit?
#1971 [18:16] <ferdinand> i belive 64 bit
#1972 [18:17] <ferdinand> my windows is
#1973 [18:17] <Kealper> i need a definate yes or no, it could screw it up if it's the wrong one
#1974 [18:17] <Kealper> and i don't know how to check on Ubuntu
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#1977 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: uname -a
#1978 [18:19] <Kealper> ferdinand: type what dope said into a terminal window
#1979 [18:19] <ferdinand> dont know about ubuntu1* sec
#1980 [18:19] <ferdinand> how do i check
#1981 [18:19] <ferdinand> im back
#1982 [18:19] <ferdinand> how do i check?
#1983 [18:19] <Kealper> woh lag
#1984 [18:19] <Kable> hey guys, anyone know anything about multiplayer, cant seem to connect with my mate?
#1985 [18:19] <Kealper> Kable: what ip are you using?
#1986 [18:19] <ferdinand> Linux RJ 2.6.35-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 01:41:57 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/L ?
#1987 [18:19] <iPischto> Kable: Has he opened all the ports !
#1988 [18:19] <Kealper> 64bit
#1989 [18:19] <ferdinand> ok good to know
#1990 [18:19] <Kable> ah ports? it got the details on portforwarding
#1991 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> erm
#1992 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> that's not 64-bit
#1993 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> that's 32-bit
#1994 [18:20] <Kable> he is at his house, i used 78.149.37.205
#1995 [18:20] <Kealper> i686? is x64 is it not?
#1996 [18:20] <Kable> thats what i was trying to connect to
#1997 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> i686 is 32-bit
#1998 [18:20] <ferdinand> ok, even better to know?
#1999 [18:20] <Kealper> so what's i386?
#2000 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> i386 is also 32-bit
#2001 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> 64-bit looks like:
#2002 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> Linux sevenpointtwo 2.6.35-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 02:41:37 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
#2003 [18:21] * Kealper starts up a linux vm to see what 64 bit shows as
#2003 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> ^that.
#2004 [18:21] <Kealper> what the fuck linux.
#2005 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> ?
#2006 [18:21] <Kealper> needs to make up it's mind with bits -.-
#2007 [18:21] <iPischto> So he hasn't opened any ports ?
#2008 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> i686 is an instruction set compatible with an Intel Pentium II
#2009 [18:21] <ferdinand> isnt x86 64 bit?
#2010 [18:21] <Kealper> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-260.19.29-driver.html
#2011 [18:22] <Kealper> x86 is 32
#2012 [18:22] <iPischto> x86 is 32
#2013 [18:22] <Kable> nah i will open my now? and he will be able to join me?
#2014 [18:22] <iPischto> Lol
#2015 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> no, x86 means compatible with the 8086 instuction set
#2016 [18:22] <ferdinand> is that for me?
#2017 [18:22] <Kealper> yes
#2018 [18:22] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: you and your technicalities >.>
#2019 [18:22] <iPischto> Kable: You can try, depends on your router
#2020 [18:23] <ferdinand> once it downloads and saves, whet then
#2021 [18:23] <iPischto> Kable: If not, one of you has to open the ports..
#2022 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> i286, i386, i486, i586, and i686 are all increasingly large supersets of each other, and all are 32-bit
#2023 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> (wow, it's been forever since I've seen a distro with an i286 kernel)
#2024 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> but again
#2025 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> </derail>
#2026 [18:23] <Kealper> then i now hate intel even more :/
#2027 [18:24] <Kealper> ferdinand: no idea...i don't use linux on a day-to-day basis so i really don't know jack about it
#2028 [18:24] * DopeGhoti does know Jack.
#2028 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> he's quite a guy.
#2029 [18:24] <Kealper> lol
#2030 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> is it time for clone1019's nap now?
#2031 [18:25] <ferdinand> i can figure it out, just found the instructions
#2032 [18:26] <Kealper> i really should learn a bit more about linux....since there quite a few Ubuntu-converts that come in here
#2033 [18:27] <Kealper> and then i end up making myself look retarded trying to help them
#2034 [18:27] <iPischto> Same here
#2035 [18:27] <Kable> neone know the dos line, to see all the networking stuff, eg DNS, IPs
#2036 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> ipconfig -all
#2037 [18:28] <Kable> legend
#2038 [18:28] <Kable> ty
#2039 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#2040 [18:28] <Kealper> oh...dang...ninja'd...i was still trying to understand if that was a question or a statement
#2041 [18:28] <Kealper> i was like... neone...knee-one? huh?
#2042 [18:29] <iPischto> On linux it's ifconfig
#2043 [18:29] <iPischto> Wohoooo
#2044 [18:29] <iPischto> I knew sth
#2045 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> man -k sth
#2046 [18:30] <iPischto> What does -k do ?
#2047 [18:30] <Kealper> yea i only know the basic cli stuff with linux....installing stuff without using apt or yum....i can't do it -.-
#2048 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> man -k searches by keyword
#2049 [18:31] <ferdinand> it takes commitment and alot of time to learn
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#2051 [18:31] <Kealper> yea i figured, i knew man was manual, and i figured -k was keyword to search lol
#2052 [18:31] <ferdinand> its good im still in HS
#2053 [18:31] <iPischto> Cheers, might need that for my
#2054 [18:31] <iPischto> Upcoming exams haha
#2055 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: see? not as hard as you think :)
#2056 [18:31] <ferdinand> still have a long time t learn
#2057 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> iPischto: you're welcome! That'll be $8.
#2058 [18:31] <iPischto> € anyone ?
#2059 [18:32] <Kealper> well the basic cli stuff i know or can figure out easy....it's the other stuff that kills me :/
#2060 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: well, it's really not that hard. plus man is orders of mangutide better help than anything baked into Windows.
#2061 [18:33] <ferdinand> well, if you want to lern play around with it, but be warned, you WILL DESTROY ATLEAST 2 LINUX OSS BEFORE YOU GET THE HANG OF IT
#2062 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> ferdinand: not necessarily.
#2063 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> it's hard to ruin a Linux install unless you dork around all the time logged in as root.
#2064 [18:33] <ferdinand> it scary when all your nfiles rease in front of your face
#2065 [18:33] <ferdinand> files*
#2066 [18:33] <Kealper> ferdinand: i've messed around lightly with linux for years, but especially when it comes to Ubuntu, i have not touched that since it was like....version 7.04 or something
#2067 [18:34] <ferdinand> ha
#2068 [18:34] <ferdinand> 10.10 lPTOP
#2069 [18:34] <ferdinand> Laptop*
#2070 [18:34] * DopeGhoti got started with Slackware 2. There _was_ no package manager.
#2070 [18:34] <ferdinand> it was fun
#2071 [18:34] * DopeGhoti was _amazed_ when he got X running the first time
#2071 [18:34] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: XD
#2072 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> "I.. I finally got all the libraries I needed!"
#2073 [18:35] <ferdinand> what are opengl operations
#2074 [18:35] <Kealper> hmm..when i said i should learn more linux, i actually should have said i should learn more ubuntu, now that i think about it
#2075 [18:35] <ferdinand> i ahve to close all of them for nvidia
#2076 [18:35] <Kealper> ferdinand: something is trying to run pretty things
#2077 [18:35] <Kealper> disable all desktop effects
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#2079 [18:36] <ferdinand> I WANT A DVORAK WIRELESS FLEXIBLE KEYBOARD!!!!!
#2080 [18:36] <ferdinand> thanks
#2081 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> ferdinand: these exist.
#2082 [18:36] <Kealper> i'd assume what's it's face uses opengl to do all the crazy window effects
#2083 [18:36] <ferdinand> yes, and i want it
#2084 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> so buy one
#2085 [18:36] <ferdinand> B-Day is still coming up
#2086 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> things that are on my to-do list, partial excerpt: learn to type on a Dvorak keyboard. Learn Esperanto. Learn Perl.
#2087 [18:37] <ferdinand> im 16, i have $3 in wallet
#2088 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> get a job?
#2089 [18:37] <ferdinand> I have 10 classes, 6 are AP no time
#2090 [18:37] <Kealper> i learned Perl....not too hard to get the basics...but i found a new hate, and this hate is of regex
#2091 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> Regular expressions are _awesome_
#2092 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> perl regexes, less so.
#2093 [18:38] <Kealper> yea, the language i normally use has PCRE stuff in it
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#2095 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> ??PCRE
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#2098 [18:38] <Kealper> drop-in regex
#2099 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> ah
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#2101 [18:39] <Kealper> although i probably got that wrong...lemme google
#2102 [18:39] <oxense> I need help
#2103 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> Since I learned to speak regex, editing with vi has gotten so much easier ;)
#2104 [18:39] <Kealper> nope, i was right
#2105 [18:39] <Kealper> Perl Compatible Regular Expressions
#2106 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> oxense: how may #minecrafthelp be of service?
#2107 [18:39] <oxense> My game game closes down randomly
#2108 [18:40] <ferdinand> how do i exit the X server?
#2109 [18:40] <Kealper> killall x (i have no idea)
#2110 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> ferdinand: in a terminal, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
#2111 [18:40] <Kealper> what he said....probably
#2112 [18:40] <ferdinand> thnx
#2113 [18:40] <ferdinand> ha
#2114 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> oxense: any pattern ay all? Does it just *bamf* and go away or are there error messages?
#2115 [18:41] <oxense> No error messeges
#2116 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> Does Minecraft close entirely, or do you go back to the menu screen?
#2117 [18:41] <oxense> Enturely
#2118 [18:41] <oxense> Entirely
#2119 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> Which OS are you runnning?
#2120 [18:42] <oxense> WIndow 7 Ultimate
#2121 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> 32- or 64-bit?
#2122 [18:42] <oxense> Windows 7 Ultimate
#2123 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> Which version of Java?
#2124 [18:42] <oxense> 32bit
#2125 [18:42] <oxense> how do i chek that?
#2126 [18:42] <oxense> how do i check that?
#2127 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> in the Java control panel.
#2128 [18:44] <oxense> I havnt updated java in a while can that be the problem?
#2129 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> it's possible
#2130 [18:44] <oxense> Im updating
#2131 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> I'm all atwitter.
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#2133 [18:44] <firdinand> well that didnt work
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#2135 [18:47] <firdinand> hello?
#2136 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> ahoyhoi.
#2137 [18:47] <oxense> How do you remove the square-shaped white patterns?
#2138 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> oxense: of which patterns do you speak?
#2139 [18:48] * Kealper smells a graphics driver issue
#2139 [18:48] <oxense> White markes in the edge of every block, its anoying when your looking at the water
#2140 [18:48] <Kealper> man...i like...fell asleep at the keyboard for a few min there...i think i should get off to bed lol
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#2142 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> oxense: have you attempted to install any custom skins or somesuch?
#2143 [18:49] <Kealper> oxense: do you have a texture pack installed?
#2144 [18:49] <oxense> No
#2145 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> oxense: have you tried reinstalling Minecraft?
#2146 [18:49] <oxense> Yup
#2147 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> oxense: not to be pedantic, but including removing %AppData/.minecraft/ ?
#2148 [18:49] <oxense> and the game does the random-crash again
#2149 [18:49] <oxense> and the game did the random-crash again
#2150 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> Why are you repeating everything?
#2151 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> Why are you repeating everything? :)
#2152 [18:50] <oxense> Correcting
#2153 [18:50] <oxense> :)
#2154 [18:50] <oxense> :)
#2155 [18:50] <Kealper> easiest way is just to do tish (below)
#2156 [18:50] <Kealper> this*
#2157 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> anyhow.. again, in the interest of verification, have you also removed %appdata%/.minecraft when reinstalling?
#2158 [18:51] <oxense> is it C
#2159 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2160 [18:51] <oxense> C:\Users\Appdata?
#2161 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> no, literally %appdata%
#2162 [18:52] <oxense> k
#2163 [18:52] <Kealper> C:\Users\yourname\Appdata\roaming
#2164 [18:52] <Kealper> aka %appdata%
#2165 [18:53] <Cial> windows key + R
#2166 [18:53] <Cial> %appdata% is faster
#2167 [18:53] * Kealper just has a shortcut to .minecraft on his desktop
#2167 [18:54] <Cial> Kealper....
#2168 [18:54] * Cial wonders why he hasnt done that
#2168 [18:54] <Kealper> lol
#2169 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> "because ~/.mine<Tab> is quick to type?"
#2170 [18:55] <Kealper> i'd almost go try that but i'd have to detach screen
#2171 [18:55] <Kealper> and if i do, my nick changes
#2172 [18:55] <oxense> Trying to launch the gam
#2173 [18:55] <oxense> e
#2174 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: press ^A, then C. To get back, ^A, ^A
#2175 [18:56] <Kealper> hmm....does c make a new window in the current session or something?
#2176 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: sorry, ^A then ^C
#2177 [18:57] <Kealper> ^a c worked
#2178 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> and yes, it opens a second terminal in the same screen
#2179 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> you can even split-screen with ^A S
#2180 [18:57] <Kealper> ok this i gotta try
#2181 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> to flip focus, it's ^A<TAB>
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#2183 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> to pick a terminal for each split, it's ^a "
#2184 [18:58] <Kealper> woh....ok don't do ^a s
#2185 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> oh?
#2186 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> not a fan of split screens?
#2187 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> to un-split, ^a Q
#2188 [18:58] <Kealper> suspended my terminal window
#2189 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> S != s
#2190 [18:58] <Kealper> oh.....SIGH
#2191 [18:59] <Kealper> windows and it's case insensitiveness has spoiled me :/
#2192 [18:59] <Kealper> oooh...smexy
#2193 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> it's spoiled lots of things :)
#2194 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> also, if you're using irssi, for quick commands, /exec is handy :)
#2195 [19:00] <Kealper> well, split screen is neat, but i like my irc fullscreen
#2196 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> as do I, but I also like seeing what's going on, on my server
#2197 [19:00] <Kealper> exec just does terminal commands?
#2198 [19:00] <i81u812> hey I forgot how to duck real quick anyone?
#2199 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> i81u812: shift
#2200 [19:00] <i81u812> ty
#2201 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: yep
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#2203 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> morning, LG_Legacy.
#2204 [19:01] <Kealper> is there a magic hotkey to close screens?
#2205 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: ^a K I think
#2206 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: but if you want just to no longer have a split screen
#2207 [19:02] <Kealper> indeed
#2208 [19:02] <Kealper> yea already did ^a Q
#2209 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> then ^a Q
#2210 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> better than killing is sanely closing the shell though
#2211 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> ^a ", pick the other session, and exit the shell
#2212 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> you'll automagically pop back into the previously active terminal
#2213 [19:03] <Kealper> all these shortcuts o.o
#2214 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: ^a ? :)
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#2216 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> I meek meaning to put a (decent) screen tutorial on the forums
#2217 [19:03] <Kealper> all these lines of help!!
#2218 [19:03] <Kealper> lol
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#2221 [19:04] <mib_kqqphq> did my ip change? and how do i find out wat it is
#2222 [19:04] <bevyrage> oi peeps
#2223 [19:04] <Kealper> c-75-69-81-126.hsd1.ma.comcast.net
#2224 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> mib_kqqphq: http://www.ipchicken.com
#2225 [19:05] <bevyrage> how do i solve this problem: http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/hellfirebacon/Untitled-7.jpg I do have java installed, and it is browser enabled. there is no antivirus or scanning program that stops it from working, and the plug in works just fine.
#2226 [19:05] <oxense> it seems to work now, but how do i fix the irritating white-objectmarkers
#2227 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> bevyrage: by not playing in-browser? :)
#2228 [19:06] <bevyrage> but you can't do free multiplayer out of browser as far as i know. D:
#2229 [19:06] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: that's classic :/
#2230 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: ah.
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#2232 [19:07] <Cial> hey what is font.txt for in the minecraft jar\
#2233 [19:07] <Kealper> bevyrage: what sort of computer do you have? like...is it old?
#2234 [19:07] <bevyrage> i'm a mod for Rabit's Den and I was usually the one who watched for griefers on the second shift
#2235 [19:07] <bevyrage> no, it's windows vista, but my previous computer was also windows vista. it's just not working for me. ; - ;
#2236 [19:07] <Kealper> Cial: it's got the game's font stuff in it
#2237 [19:08] <Kealper> Cial: the text is white, with transparent background so opening it in paint won't cut it :/
#2238 [19:08] <Kealper> bevyrage: oh, so it's worked before?
#2239 [19:09] <Cial> Kealper, im talking about the txt file
#2240 [19:09] <Kealper> oh...OH....
#2241 [19:09] <Kealper> damn i'm tired
#2242 [19:09] <Kealper> i have no idea
#2243 [19:09] <Cial> not the png or which ever is being used
#2244 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> (do we help with reverse-engineering in here now?)
#2245 [19:10] <Kealper> take it out and see what breaks :P
#2246 [19:10] <Cial> ok best not to muck with it then
#2247 [19:11] <Kealper> usually no, only because 99% of people who ask how to do it don't even know how to open the jar or where thejar even is
#2248 [19:11] <Kealper> my viewpoint on modding is that if you need to ask, you shouldn't be doing it
#2249 [19:12] <Solvius> ehmm, Kealper how can ya learn then ?
#2250 [19:12] <Kealper> by asking in the right channel
#2251 [19:12] <Kealper> lol
#2252 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> Solvius: "until the API is out"
#2253 [19:12] <Solvius> lol
#2254 [19:12] <bevyrage> yes it worked before kealper, but this new computer has the exact same specs as the last one. only difference is that this one has more space on it
#2255 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> bevyrage: remove some of the space? ;)
#2256 [19:12] <Kealper> bevyrage: try updating your graphics drivers
#2257 [19:12] <bevyrage> no, this one has more space
#2258 [19:13] <bevyrage> :I graphics drivers?
#2259 [19:13] <Kealper> no clue why that would affect it but whatever, stranger things have happened
#2260 [19:13] <Kealper> would affect it as with not even showing
#2261 [19:13] <bevyrage> ah, kay
#2262 [19:13] <Kealper> looks like you don't have java or java is not starting in that screenshot though
#2263 [19:14] <bevyrage> i've got java though. what would make it not start in the first place outside of having it not enabled?
#2264 [19:16] <Kealper> have you tried it in a different browser?
#2265 [19:18] <bevyrage> IE crashes when i try it out
#2266 [19:18] <bevyrage> :b
#2267 [19:18] <bevyrage> could try chrome though
#2268 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> try a different, _good_ browser? :)
#2269 [19:18] <Kealper> sounds like your java install is borked :/
#2270 [19:19] <bevyrage> D:
#2271 [19:20] <bevyrage> and I took that screenshot with FF
#2272 [19:20] <bevyrage> aka mozilla
#2273 [19:20] <Kealper> guess i should add miclee to the vop list...he DCes alote
#2274 [19:20] <Kealper> a lot*
#2275 [19:20] <bevyrage> i never use IE except as a backup for a backup
#2276 [19:20] * DopeGhoti never uses IE.
#2276 [19:20] <Kealper> the Firefox devs actually said it's abriviation is Fx, not FF lol
#2277 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> "x is for Fox."
#2278 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> wow, they must have done _great_ in kindergarten.
#2279 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> (I thought it was Seamonkey?)
#2280 [19:21] <Kealper> well i think they get it because it's not FireFox, it's Firefox, so they just took the first and last letters
#2281 [19:21] <bevyrage> haha
#2282 [19:22] * Kealper wonders if Seamonkey's is Sy......lol
#2282 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> yes, taking the first and last letters is the most common way to abbreviate things. So now I will take my paycheck to the cn* by way of the ie.
#2283 [19:22] <bevyrage> yeah, it's borked
#2284 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> *: credit union. Interstate.
#2285 [19:22] <bevyrage> cause chrome didn't recognize the java plugin
#2286 [19:22] <bevyrage> brb
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#2288 [19:24] <mattriley> hey, can someone help me out with a giftcode I received?
#2289 [19:24] <Kealper> we can try
#2290 [19:25] <Kealper> two lines of paste incomming!
#2291 [19:25] <bevyrage> so how would i reinstall java without screwing it up
#2292 [19:25] <Kealper> How do I spell Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?
#2293 [19:25] <Kealper> Firefox is spelled F-i-r-e-f-o-x - only the first letter capitalized (i.e. not FireFox, not Foxfire, FoxFire or whatever else a number of folk seem to think it to be called.) The preferred abbreviation is "Fx" or "fx".
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#2295 [19:25] <bevyrage> or at least install the plug in
#2296 [19:25] <Solvius> I go to bed, sleep well for later and have fun :)
#2297 [19:25] <Kealper> bevyrage: http://java.com
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#2299 [19:25] <mattriley> alrighty, here's what happened. Deadmau5 had a contest and he was giving away 100 gift codes
#2300 [19:25] <mattriley> So I was one of the winners
#2301 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> congrats.
#2302 [19:26] <mattriley> and he gave me a gift code and the site keeps telling me that the "code is invalid or has already been used"
#2303 [19:26] <mattriley> however I email mau5 back, and he said that on his end, it said that the code was still availible
#2304 [19:26] <dopeghoti> (ciao, off to cash my pay)
#2305 [19:26] <Kealper> are you sure you are putting it in right?
#2306 [19:26] <bevyrage> i already have it installed though, and wouldn't having multiple java plugins attempted to be installed screw it up even more kealper?
#2307 [19:26] <Kealper> cya dopeghoti
#2308 [19:26] <dopeghoti> mattriley: email payments@mojang.com perhaps?
#2309 [19:26] <mattriley> I'm pretty sure I'm putting it in right
#2310 [19:26] <mattriley> ####-####-####
#2311 [19:27] <mattriley> that's how you put it in correct?
#2312 [19:27] <Kealper> i would assume
#2313 [19:27] <Kealper> i've never actually used them
#2314 [19:27] <mattriley> ah alright then. I'll just send an email to the payments address
#2315 [19:28] <bevyrage> ... the java setup progress bar is frozen without anything loaded
#2316 [19:28] <Kealper> yea, because that is usually an issue only Mojang themselves can solve
#2317 [19:28] <Kealper> bevyrage: O.o
#2318 [19:28] <bevyrage> oop, nvm
#2319 [19:28] <bevyrage> just skipped to 90% O:
#2320 [19:28] * Kealper retracts the O.o
#2320 [19:28] <bevyrage> yay!
#2321 [19:29] <mattriley> would it be dumb of me to include the actual code inside the email?
#2322 [19:29] <Kealper> no, that's fine to do that mattriley
#2323 [19:30] <mattriley> ok. thanks for the help
#2324 [19:30] <Kealper> only Mojang employees can read that address, make sure to include the account that you trie applying it to aswell
#2325 [19:30] <mattriley> ok sounds good
#2326 [19:30] <mattriley> oh one last thing, kind of a nooby question
#2327 [19:30] <mattriley> what does "whitelisting" mean?
#2328 [19:31] <Kealper> it means that the server is running a modification that will only allow specific users to connect
#2329 [19:31] <mattriley> oh sweet
#2330 [19:31] <Kealper> so if a person's name is not on the list, they will be kicked
#2331 [19:31] <mattriley> hehe now I get access to mau5's private server :D
#2332 [19:31] <mattriley> anyway, thanks again guys.
#2333 [19:32] <Kealper> lol
#2334 [19:33] <Kealper> hopefully quit means problem solved
#2335 [19:34] <Cial> i wasnt that impressed with Deadmau5's server
#2336 [19:34] <Kealper> orly?
#2337 [19:34] <Cial> to much grief damage
#2338 [19:34] <Kealper> :/
#2339 [19:34] <Kealper> maybe that's why he whitelisted it lol
#2340 [19:34] <Cial> probably
#2341 [19:35] <Cial> but hell nobody was even making a visible attempt to fix the damage
#2342 [19:35] <Kealper> :/
#2343 [19:35] * Cial misses the day where players would see something broken and try to fix it
#2343 [19:36] <Cial> although i quit doing that so much because i got banned from a server that had no visible rules on flyhacks
#2344 [19:36] <Cial> and i saw dammage to a building so i landed on it and fixed the hole
#2345 [19:36] <Cial> next thing i know i see the you have been banned message
#2346 [19:36] <Cial> fuckers
#2347 [19:38] <Cial> this was in classic mind you
#2348 [19:38] <Cial> flying in smp should be an instant ban
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#2352 [19:43] <its> i was creating a nether portal in multiplayer but the portal does not work does anyone know what might be the problem
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#2356 [20:04] <mib_p4txwi> SOMEONE HELP ME
#2357 [20:05] <mib_p4txwi> anyone there that can help me
#2358 [20:05] <mib_p4txwi> Hello
#2359 [20:06] <mib_p4txwi> I thought i was supposed to come here for help:/
#2360 [20:06] <Diablothein> You were.
#2361 [20:06] <Diablothein> BUT!
#2362 [20:06] <Diablothein> You know, we CANNOT help you unless you tell us what the problem is.
#2363 [20:06] <mib_p4txwi> I know
#2364 [20:07] <mib_p4txwi> My minecraft works for like maybe 5-10 minutes then it goes black and become unresponsive
#2365 [20:07] <Diablothein> Browser or downloaded?
#2366 [20:07] <mib_p4txwi> Downloaded
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#2368 [20:08] <AG_Elias> mib_p4txwi, this occur sometimes during heavy system load. Make sure your system can handle Minecraft, or reduce your settings.
#2369 [20:08] <mib_p4txwi> How i do that???
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#2372 [20:09] <AG_Elias> Please go into minecraft, then Options/Settings.
#2373 [20:09] <AG_Elias> Change your graphics off of fancy, and your render distance to normal.
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#2375 [20:09] <mib_p4txwi> i cant change the graphics off fancy
#2376 [20:09] <mib_p4txwi> for some reason my game crashes
#2377 [20:10] <AG_Elias> I am sorry to hear that. Have you tried reinstalling the game?
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#2379 [20:10] <mib_p4txwi> Yea,
#2380 [20:10] <mib_p4txwi> Hold on im going to try the graphics
#2381 [20:11] <mib_p4txwi> Yay
#2382 [20:11] <mib_p4txwi> my game didnt crash when i tried
#2383 [20:12] <mib_p4txwi> i need to play for a little to see if it still does it and thanks for the tip.
#2384 [20:17] <Diablothein> switch the fog settings from far and switch graphics from fancy to fast
#2385 [20:22] <Mikau> I really wish I knew what caused my Minecraft to crash.
#2386 [20:22] <Mikau> The screen just randomly goes black, and then not responding
#2387 [20:22] <Mikau> Java(TM) Platform SE binary is not responding.
#2388 [20:22] <Mikau> Thanks tips.
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#2391 [20:25] <Diablothein> Mikau, try updating your java
#2392 [20:25] <peru> Mikau, there should be error file created
#2393 [20:26] <peru> like this: hs_err_pidxxxx.log
#2394 [20:26] <Mikau> EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6d0b6b30, pid=3696, tid=5616
#2395 [20:27] <peru> email this to notch and pray he gets it and fixes error
#2396 [20:28] <Mikau> Let me try removing and reinstalling java
#2397 [20:28] <Mikau> It's done this before and after a complete format of the system
#2398 [20:30] <Mikau> There's a 6.23 I was using 6.22
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#2402 [20:37] <guacamole> i have an issue, still.
#2403 [20:37] <guacamole> that being the black screen i cannot get past when i start the game up from my desktop
#2404 [20:38] <guacamole> also, i get the same screen when i play in browser from the
#2405 [20:38] <guacamole> website
#2406 [20:38] <guacamole> i have redownloaded, it
#2407 [20:38] <guacamole> updated my java
#2408 [20:38] <Matthew> Whenever I start the game on any computer, I get:
#2409 [20:38] <guacamole> and updated my drivers as best i can
#2410 [20:38] <Matthew> Minecraft has crashed!
#2411 [20:38] <Matthew> ----------------------
#2412 [20:38] <Matthew> Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem.
#2413 [20:38] <Matthew> If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com.
#2414 [20:38] <Matthew> Please include a description of what you did when the error occured.
#2415 [20:38] <Matthew> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 --------
#2416 [20:38] <Matthew> Generated 1/4/11 5:48 PM
#2417 [20:38] <Matthew> Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.1_02
#2418 [20:38] <Matthew> OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1
#2419 [20:38] <Matthew> Java: 1.6.0_23, Sun Microsystems Inc.
#2420 [20:38] <Matthew> VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode, sharing), Sun Microsystems Inc.
#2421 [20:38] <Matthew> LWJGL: 2.4.2
#2422 [20:38] <Matthew> OpenGL: ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics version 2.1.8787, ATI Technologies Inc.
#2423 [20:38] <Matthew> java.nio.BufferOverflowException
#2424 [20:38] <Matthew> at java.nio.DirectByteBuffer.put(Unknown Source)
#2425 [20:38] <Kealper> FUUUUUUUUUUUU
#2426 [20:38] <Matthew> at java.nio.ByteBuffer.put(Unknown Source)
#2427 [20:38] <Matthew> at ge.a(SourceFile:148)
#2428 [20:39] <Matthew> at ge.a(SourceFile:62)
#2429 [20:39] <Matthew> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.i(SourceFile:1053)
#2430 [20:39] <guacamole> i used to get that too back in alpha
#2431 [20:39] <Matthew> how fix?
#2432 [20:39] <guacamole> i went to the drivers website and updated
#2433 [20:40] <Matthew> also it says I have x86 but I have x64
#2434 [20:40] <Matthew> but it happened on multiple computers...
#2435 [20:40] <Diablothein> Kealper, har har.
#2436 [20:40] <lukegb> Matthew: you probably have the x86 version of Java installed
#2437 [20:41] <Matthew> oh oops I figured out the x86 thing but any ideas on the problem?
#2438 [20:41] <Matthew> my drivers are updated
#2439 [20:41] <guacamole> is there a way to get into my comp, and do a "start/run/minecraft folder,/delete folder, redownload thing?
#2440 [20:42] <Mikau> Still crashed, but didn't get an error report this time, how not cool.
#2441 [20:45] <guacamole> is anyone up to an idea?
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#2443 [20:45] <guacamole> i'm openminded about any solution
#2444 [20:45] <AppleII> Hello
#2445 [20:46] <Matthew> guac, you mean delete "C:/Users/username/Appdata/Roaming/.minecraft?
#2446 [20:46] <AppleII> Can anyone help me with a server issue I have?
#2447 [20:47] <guacamole> yeah that
#2448 [20:47] <guacamole> will it help/
#2449 [20:47] <guacamole> ?
#2450 [20:47] <Matthew> try cutting and pasting it somewhere else so you still have it in case. try it
#2451 [20:48] <AppleII> The issue I have is when I start my server I get the normal startup it tells me the port and the ip then it tells me that it has already been opened on the port is there any way to close it?
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#2453 [20:48] <Mikau> Where do the java error outputs go by default?
#2454 [20:50] <Matthew> Mikau: nowhere. it says email them to support@mojang.org if you want
#2455 [20:50] <Matthew> AppleII: router settings page?
#2456 [20:51] <Matthew> any help with my problem?
#2457 [20:51] <AppleII> If anyone has any thoughts I've tried resetting my computer and my router, but it still won't start the service on the port, yet when I check my incoming and outgoing connections it says the port isn't being used
#2458 [20:51] <AppleII> I've tried there too
#2459 [20:51] <Mikau> Emailing Notch telling him "my client goes black and not responding" is of no help at all.
#2460 [20:51] <Mikau> It gives him absolutely no information about what could be going wrong.
#2461 [20:52] <AppleII> here is the exact error
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#2463 [20:52] <AppleII> [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#2464 [20:52] <AppleII> [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Can't assign requested address
#2465 [20:52] <AppleII> [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#2466 [20:53] <Matthew> can you tell it to use a different port?
#2467 [20:54] <AppleII> I'll try but I'm wondering if there is any data running from that port still
#2468 [20:55] <AppleII> ahh well it worked somehow my server ip got changed it should be blank right?
#2469 [20:55] <Matthew> idk hope someone else does
#2470 [20:56] <AppleII> Well anyhow it worked alright
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#2472 [20:57] <AppleII> I have a question though it seems to give me the "Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?" error often is that normal?
#2473 [20:57] <lukegb> Always happens.
#2474 [20:57] <AppleII> ok thanks
#2475 [20:59] <guacamole> IF I DELETE MY MINECRAFT FOLDER, I WIL LOSE ALL MY PROGRESS IN ALL MY WORLDS AN START ALL OVER WITH NOTHING IS THAT RIGHT/
#2476 [20:59] <guacamole> sorry for caps
#2477 [20:59] <Mikau> If you delete the entire thing, yes.
#2478 [20:59] <Mikau> Go into the minecraft folder and delete everything except the saves folder
#2479 [20:59] <Mikau> Then you will retain your world files.
#2480 [20:59] <guacamole> is there a way to keep any of the pertinent info, and saves?
#2481 [20:59] <Mikau> pertinent info?
#2482 [20:59] <Mikau> What's pertinent?
#2483 [20:59] <guacamole> i mean my saves
#2484 [21:00] <guacamole> my worlds that i have oh so painstakingly built
#2485 [21:00] <Kealper> in the .minecraft folder
#2486 [21:00] <guacamole> oh ok
#2487 [21:00] <Kealper> delete ONLY the bin folder
#2488 [21:00] <Mikau> mmmm
#2489 [21:00] <Mikau> steak
#2490 [21:00] * Mikau drools
#2490 [21:00] <guacamole> lol
#2491 [21:00] <Kealper> run minecraft again, it'll redownload all the stuff it needs
#2492 [21:00] <Mikau> Just delete the "version" file and run Minecraft.
#2493 [21:00] <Kealper> no custom settings or saves will be harmed
#2494 [21:00] <Kealper> or what he said
#2495 [21:01] <guacamole> ok,here goes
#2496 [21:01] <AppleII> To log into your server from the public end you would just have to use you public router ip and it should find the port right?
#2497 [21:02] <guacamole> it went to update, got to doneloading, froze for a sec, with the bar not all the way full and then the screen went black again
#2498 [21:03] <guacamole> scratching my head
#2499 [21:03] <guacamole> i dunno
#2500 [21:03] <Kealper> guacamole: has it ever worked before?
#2501 [21:03] <guacamole> *throws his hands up
#2502 [21:03] <guacamole> yes
#2503 [21:03] <guacamole> it has
#2504 [21:03] <Kealper> and you have updated java, and your graphics card?
#2505 [21:03] <guacamole> but that was in alpha
#2506 [21:04] <guacamole> it went went pear shaped when it went to beta
#2507 [21:04] <guacamole> java and drivers yes
#2508 [21:04] <guacamole> graphics card also
#2509 [21:05] <Kealper> hmmm........
#2510 [21:05] <Kealper> is it safe to assume you are using windows, and you are using minecraft.exe?
#2511 [21:06] <AppleII> Ok I have another issue with my server, I've never been able to connect to my server from anything but my local ip or localhost, I've setup my router to portforward, but it will just say connecting to server for about 2 minutes and then say connection failed
#2512 [21:06] <Kealper> AppleII: what's it's ip?
#2513 [21:06] <guacamole> windows xp and yes minecraft.exe
#2514 [21:07] <AppleII> Well would it be a difference if it was a mac?
#2515 [21:07] <Kealper> hmm...ever heard of a .bat file guacamole?
#2516 [21:07] <Kealper> AppleII: it should not matter what os it's running :/
#2517 [21:07] <guacamole> once, back in school
#2518 [21:07] <guacamole> i was never a software guy, i'm a hardware tech
#2519 [21:08] <Kealper> well then....time to confuse you a bit lol
#2520 [21:08] <AppleII> ok I didn't think it would be different it all has the same port architecture
#2521 [21:08] <guacamole> ok
#2522 [21:08] <guacamole> bring it on
#2523 [21:08] <Kealper> guacamole: first, download minecraft.jar
#2524 [21:08] <Kealper> !client
#2525 [21:08] * Diablothein pulls out a .44 magnum and points it at guacamole
#2525 [21:08] <Diablothein> I win.
#2526 [21:08] <Kealper> use the link that says For Linux
#2527 [21:08] <guacamole> even though i use xp
#2528 [21:08] <Kealper> AppleII: are you sure you forwarded the port correctly?
#2529 [21:09] <AppleII> yes i used the default 25565 for the start and end port and used both protocols for input and output
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#2531 [21:10] <guacamole> jar portion downloaded
#2532 [21:10] <Kealper> guacamole: save it somewhere that you can remember
#2533 [21:10] <Kealper> make a new text document
#2534 [21:10] <AppleII> this is on my router since it doesn't support auto port forward, would i also need an application to do port forwarding? I've tried "Port Map" which they recommend on minepedia
#2535 [21:11] <Kealper> AppleII: have you followed a guide from http://portforward.com ?
#2536 [21:11] <Kealper> guacamole: lemme get the stuff that you need to enter into said text file
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#2538 [21:12] <mr_fribble> i need some help
#2539 [21:12] <AppleII> There isn't one for my router :( although my friend has the same router and set up a successful server and helped me, although there must be a problem with the port forwarding because it works locally
#2540 [21:12] <Kealper> ok guacamole, put this inside that text file: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2541 [21:12] <mr_fribble> with a certain very annoying glitch
#2542 [21:12] <Kealper> what glitch mr_fribble?
#2543 [21:12] <mr_fribble> that wont let me open my save file
#2544 [21:13] <Kealper> save file just does not show in the list anymore?
#2545 [21:13] <mr_fribble> ok. so i was updating to the new beta version and then my internet stopped working in the middle of the update.
#2546 [21:13] <AppleII> may it have been moved from the folder?
#2547 [21:14] <Kealper> mr_fribble: windows?
#2548 [21:14] <guacamole> notepad opened and text copy pasted into it, check
#2549 [21:14] <mr_fribble> now, whenever i open the application, it has the update loading bar at the bottom and minecraft logo at the top, just like it always does in the middle of an update. but
#2550 [21:14] <Kealper> guacamole: go to Save As... and select to filter as "All Files (*.*)" and save it as start.bat
#2551 [21:15] <mr_fribble> it is eternally stuck at one point and all it says is done loading, but it's only loaded most of the way according to the bar.
#2552 [21:15] <mr_fribble> i cant even get to the main menu
#2553 [21:15] <mr_fribble> it just pulls this up every time
#2554 [21:15] <guacamole> ok, filtered to all files and saved as start.bat
#2555 [21:16] <mr_fribble> i let it "finish loading" for almost 3 hours, but it didnt do anything
#2556 [21:16] <Kealper> guacamole: make sure that bat file is in the same place as the .jar file, and run it
#2557 [21:16] <mr_fribble> and btw, im a complete noob when it comes to computers so you might have to walk me through a few things
#2558 [21:17] <mr_fribble> any ideas?
#2559 [21:17] <AppleII> Do i need a separate port map application running with my router?
#2560 [21:18] <Kealper> holy crap too many people to help lol...got people buggin me on msn too ._.
#2561 [21:18] <mr_fribble> ?
#2562 [21:18] <Kealper> mr_fribble: press the windows key and "r" at the same time
#2563 [21:18] <Kealper> it should bring up a Run window
#2564 [21:18] <mr_fribble> yeah
#2565 [21:18] <Kealper> type %appdata% in it and press enter
#2566 [21:19] <AppleII> Thats ok I can wait I've been stuck for a few days not its a bit annoying
#2567 [21:19] <mr_fribble> okay, done
#2568 [21:19] <Kealper> go in to the .minecraft folder and delete that bin folder, rum minecraft again
#2569 [21:20] <mr_fribble> THANK YOU SO MUCH
#2570 [21:20] <Kealper> AppleII: are you sure you have the port forwarded to the correct internal ip?
#2571 [21:21] <AppleII> What do you mean internal ip? There was no form to fill for ip, just the port and protocal
#2572 [21:21] <Kealper> o.o
#2573 [21:21] <Kealper> what router model do you have?
#2574 [21:21] <guacamole> mover both to a folder on my desktop labeled minecraft-y and ran the minecraft.jar, it went to the log-in thing, and then to the black screen
#2575 [21:22] <AppleII> Its a linksys
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#2577 [21:22] <AppleII> the model number is
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#2579 [21:22] <Kealper> guacamole: did a cmd window show up too?
#2580 [21:23] <AppleII> wrt54g2
#2581 [21:23] <guacamole> no, just the normal minecraft window
#2582 [21:23] <Kealper> wrt54g......i think you just went to the wrong thing and did a port translation....1 sec i'll hook you up with the right thing
#2583 [21:24] <guacamole> though i think it odd to run a linux download on my xp system
#2584 [21:25] <Kealper> technically it's not linux, it's just a raw java executable instead of a windows executable
#2585 [21:25] <Kealper> AppleII: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Linksys/WRT54G2/Minecraft_Server.htm
#2586 [21:25] <AppleII> oh thanks :)
#2587 [21:27] <Kealper> AppleII: you went to Port Triggering, didn't you?
#2588 [21:27] <AppleII> I don't know I haven't finished the article yet.
#2589 [21:30] <guacamole> is there a next step?
#2590 [21:30] <AppleII> hum nope thats exactly what I did :(
#2591 [21:30] <Kealper> guacamole: no cmd window opened with the minecraft window?
#2592 [21:31] <Kealper> did you run the jar or the bat file?
#2593 [21:31] <guacamole> jar
#2594 [21:31] <Kealper> run the bat file
#2595 [21:31] <guacamole> ok
#2596 [21:31] <Kealper> it should open a cmd window and the game
#2597 [21:32] <guacamole> i get a flash, of a window opening but it goes away
#2598 [21:32] <Kealper> ok then, can't do that the easy way then
#2599 [21:32] <Kealper> are you on a 32 bit windows or a 64 bit one?
#2600 [21:32] <guacamole> :(
#2601 [21:32] <guacamole> 64
#2602 [21:33] <Kealper> ok then, right click on that bat file and select Edit
#2603 [21:33] <guacamole> do i remove the bat and jar files? delete them?
#2604 [21:33] <Kealper> no
#2605 [21:33] <Kealper> just edit that bat file
#2606 [21:33] <Kealper> tell me when it's open in Notepad
#2607 [21:33] <guacamole> ok, edit is open
#2608 [21:33] <AppleII> I did port forwarding there was a place for ip I just forgot I followed the article and it still doesn't work
#2609 [21:33] <Kealper> see where it says "java" at the beginning?
#2610 [21:34] <guacamole> yes
#2611 [21:34] <Kealper> gimme a few sec AppleII
#2612 [21:34] <AppleII> ok
#2613 [21:35] <Kealper> replace "java" with: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" (with quotes)
#2614 [21:36] <guacamole> ok, and theres a small space after the quotes before a - mark
#2615 [21:36] <Kealper> yes, that should be there
#2616 [21:36] <Kealper> save that, and run it again
#2617 [21:36] <guacamole> ok
#2618 [21:36] <guacamole> saving
#2619 [21:36] <guacamole> cmd window and game window
#2620 [21:37] <Kealper> ok, try and log in until it black screens
#2621 [21:37] <Kealper> the cmd window should have a bunch of debug stuff in it
#2622 [21:37] <guacamole> ok, done
#2623 [21:37] <guacamole> it does
#2624 [21:37] <Kealper> right click on the cmd window
#2625 [21:37] <Kealper> click Select All
#2626 [21:37] <Kealper> then right click it again and click Copy
#2627 [21:38] <Kealper> wait, 1 sec, that might not be right
#2628 [21:38] <guacamole> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.JASONCOMP\Desktop\minecraft>"C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.min ecraft.LauncherFrame Username is 'coakfloatgrace' Exception in thread "Thread-4" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: mx at ee.<clinit>(SourceFile:26) at og.<clinit>(SourceFile:191)
#2629 [21:38] <guacamole> lol
#2630 [21:38] <guacamole> yikes
#2631 [21:38] <Kealper> didn't get the whole thing, repaste it into http://pastebin.com and put the link here
#2632 [21:39] <Kealper> also put the post expiration as 10 minutes because that has your username in it
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#2634 [21:39] <anton> hey anyone here?
#2635 [21:39] <AppleII> yes
#2636 [21:39] <anton> i have a gift card
#2637 [21:39] <anton> i wish to purchase minecraft, but paypal doesnt work
#2638 [21:39] <Kealper> AppleII: so following that guide did not work?
#2639 [21:40] <anton> and direct purchase doesnt accept it
#2640 [21:40] <Kealper> anton: prepaid card?
#2641 [21:40] <AppleII> nope, it was exactly what I already did :(
#2642 [21:40] <anton> yes
#2643 [21:40] <anton> american express
#2644 [21:40] <guacamole> http://pastebin.com/029sjXzP
#2645 [21:40] <Kealper> those don't allow international purchases :/
#2646 [21:40] <anton> oh
#2647 [21:40] <anton> shouldn't they be allowed via paypal tho?
#2648 [21:40] <i81u812> I have a question
#2649 [21:41] <Kealper> guacamole: have you reinstalled (deleted stuf from .minecraft folder) minecraft?
#2650 [21:41] <Kealper> yes i81u812?
#2651 [21:42] <i81u812> I see there is a horizon, but can you walk or ride on a train around the world?
#2652 [21:42] <Kealper> AppleII: hmm....does your isp even allow incomming traffic on port 25565?
#2653 [21:42] <guacamole> not since i restarted minecraft in .jar mode
#2654 [21:42] <i81u812> I can even see the curvature of the earth from my roof
#2655 [21:42] <Kealper> no i81u812, it's flat
#2656 [21:42] <AppleII> would that be an issue?
#2657 [21:42] <AppleII> for a port?
#2658 [21:42] <i81u812> so no walking around the world?
#2659 [21:42] <Kealper> i81u812: no :/
#2660 [21:43] <Kealper> AppleII: it could be...who is your isp?
#2661 [21:43] <AppleII> comcast
#2662 [21:43] <i81u812> damn my dreams are crushed for a round the world train ride
#2663 [21:43] <guacamole> mine too
#2664 [21:43] <Kealper> hmm....no, that wouldn't be it....
#2665 [21:43] <guacamole> :(
#2666 [21:43] <Kealper> guacamole: so you have reinstalled minecraft then?
#2667 [21:43] <i81u812> whats the height limit in blocks?
#2668 [21:44] <Kealper> 128 tall
#2669 [21:44] <guacamole> as in a new download from the website, no
#2670 [21:44] <i81u812> wow I think my house is only 90 or so
#2671 [21:44] <Kealper> water level is at 64 blocks, so you can build 63 under and 64 over
#2672 [21:44] <i81u812> and thats seen from quite a distance
#2673 [21:44] <guacamole> just the re-install from deleting the bin folder
#2674 [21:44] <Kealper> guacamole: yea that's what i meant....
#2675 [21:44] <i81u812> so 60 above...
#2676 [21:45] <i81u812> well 64
#2677 [21:45] <i81u812> my house is a little underground...
#2678 [21:45] <guacamole> can i close the black screen and cmd window now?
#2679 [21:45] <Kealper> guacamole: i really don't know why it won't work anymore :/
#2680 [21:45] <Kealper> and yea you can close those
#2681 [21:45] <Kealper> guacamole: email support@mojang.com, i'm out of ideas :/
#2682 [21:45] <i81u812> whats the problem? something with setting up a server?
#2683 [21:45] <guacamole> ok, may i try one more thing and post the cmd info once more, i think there may be something i can do
#2684 [21:46] <Kealper> guacamole: go for it
#2685 [21:46] <AppleII> ok well if this helps when my server is running it will try to connect for a while then it will timeout, not just fail right away like when it's off
#2686 [21:46] <Kealper> just remember, pastebin lol
#2687 [21:46] <guacamole> kk back in a new york minute
#2688 [21:46] <i81u812> yeah you dont want to flood the chat with all of it....
#2689 [21:46] <Kealper> AppleII: oh? hmm...check your server.properties file
#2690 [21:47] <AppleII> ok
#2691 [21:47] <Kealper> is server-ip blank?
#2692 [21:47] <AppleII> yes
#2693 [21:47] <Kealper> crap.
#2694 [21:47] <i81u812> I use comcast and I set my server up same day I bought the game and I use a router and firewall
#2695 [21:47] <Kealper> and you can connect locally though?
#2696 [21:47] <AppleII> yep my local ip and localhost
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#2698 [21:48] <guacamole> try this
#2699 [21:48] <guacamole> http://pastebin.com/HZaHsUj7
#2700 [21:48] <Kealper> i have no idea....it sounds like your router just hates you :/
#2701 [21:48] <AppleII> i agree
#2702 [21:48] <Kealper> AppleII: try restarting your router?
#2703 [21:48] <guacamole> i deleted the bin file and ran the bat file once more
#2704 [21:49] <AppleII> Yes
#2705 [21:49] <AppleII> and my computer
#2706 [21:49] <guacamole> the game window went to a failed to launch
#2707 [21:49] <Kealper> guacamole: i'm going to try something, but it will take a bit to prepare, because i've got to upload stuff to my ghetto cdn
#2708 [21:50] * AppleII Technology hates me :/
#2708 [21:50] <guacamole> what do you need me to do?
#2709 [21:50] <Kealper> sit there for now :P
#2710 [21:50] <guacamole> oh, kk :)
#2711 [21:51] <Kealper> AppleII: i'm at a loss then :/
#2712 [21:51] <AppleII> ok well I play around with it thanks for the help
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#2714 [21:55] <Kealper> ok guacamole, it's uploading....should be done in about 5 min, maybe a bit longer if it slows down a bit
#2715 [21:56] <guacamole> ok, what do i do then? sit still and look pretty?
#2716 [21:57] <Kealper> read that pm i sent you
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#2724 [22:09] <i81u812> alright anyone here still?
#2725 [22:10] <i81u812> ???
#2726 [22:11] <i81u812> im looking at why I cant go to the nether realm eventhough I made a door way from obsidion
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#2728 [22:11] <Kealper> i81u812: in single player?
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#2730 [22:12] <i81u812> yes....
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#2732 [22:13] <Matthew> any ideas on this error? http://pastebin.com/F1290qeQ It happens across different computers.
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#2734 [22:14] <i81u812> ?
#2735 [22:15] <i81u812> no ideas?
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#2737 [22:17] <RoenieLap> is there a way to stop items disappearing after 5mins?
#2738 [22:17] <xolotl> RoenieLap: Not without mods, no.
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#2740 [22:17] <i81u812> ok I see it wasn large enough and I have to set it on fire right?
#2741 [22:18] <i81u812> for a nether realm portal
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#2743 [22:19] <xolotl> i81u812: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Portal
#2744 [22:19] <xolotl> i81u812: (though note that the corner pieces aren't actually required)
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#2746 [22:19] <i81u812> yeah I just read that
#2747 [22:19] <xolotl> (which the article mentions, but the graphic may lead you to think otherwise)
#2748 [22:19] <aetherian> hey guys
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#2750 [22:21] <Kealper> shit...forgot about this channel, sorry i81u812 lol
#2751 [22:21] <Kealper> portals don't work in smp yet
#2752 [22:22] <aetherian> sadly
#2753 [22:22] <aetherian> be awesome to shove people into the lav- I mean, adventure in nether and come back to overworld
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#2758 [22:26] <[TC]sp39> im prettttttttttttty po'ed
#2759 [22:26] <[TC]sp39> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/not_able_to_log_in_for_the_past_few_months
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#2761 [22:28] <Kealper> [TC]sp39: the only thing i can think of is that you accidentally misspelled your email address when you signed up
#2762 [22:29] <[TC]sp39> I changed it before
#2763 [22:29] <[TC]sp39> and it worked
#2764 [22:29] <tangoMom> I don't know if I am asking too much, but . . .
#2765 [22:29] <Kealper> hmm....that's rather weird...have you emailed support@mojang.com?
#2766 [22:29] <tangoMom> My son has been playing on his mac for less than a week. It looks like so much fun . . . so I purchased one.
#2767 [22:29] <tangoMom> But,
#2768 [22:30] <[TC]sp39> i have kealper
#2769 [22:30] <[TC]sp39> Hasn't been activated/upgraded?
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#2771 [22:30] <[TC]sp39> ^ tango
#2772 [22:30] <tangoMom> We would really rather play together. So, I think that I need to set up a server. I can do this on my PC, but then he looses all he has built. So, does it make more sense to set up a server on his machine. Then, will I be able to get into his "world"?
#2773 [22:31] <[TC]sp39> You need to go the the AppData folt
#2774 [22:31] <[TC]sp39> folder*I
#2775 [22:31] <[TC]sp39> What OS do you have?
#2776 [22:31] <Kealper> tangoMom: yes you can use his map, but i don't know where it would be on a mac
#2777 [22:31] <[TC]sp39> oh a mac
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#2779 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> ~/library/application support/minecraft/saves
#2780 [22:32] <[TC]sp39> Username > Library > Application Support
#2781 [22:32] <Kealper> grey you're finnally back lol
#2782 [22:32] <[TC]sp39> ninja'd :B
#2783 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> mrah
#2784 [22:32] <tangoMom> Not so much using his map, but playing together, with the same map, at the same time. I assume if he sets up a server on his mac (which we can get help with), then he and I can access the game through that server. Him, from the same machine, and me from my PC.??
#2785 [22:33] <[TC]sp39> You need to get the map and copy it into the server
#2786 [22:33] <Kealper> yes
#2787 [22:33] <[TC]sp39> and then it should work
#2788 [22:33] <tangoMom> OK. I can probably do this. I can play around with the server on my machine until i understand it better. Thanks.
#2789 [22:33] <Kealper> if you did not mind starting a new world, then it does not matter what computer is hosting the server, just as long as the server is running when one or both of you want to play
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#2792 [22:34] <Kealper> the server requires about 1gb of ram though, so you should use the better of the two computers to be the host
#2793 [22:34] <ferdinand> hey guys im back
#2794 [22:35] <Kealper> ello again
#2795 [22:35] <ferdinand> something went terribly wrong
#2796 [22:35] <Kealper> O.o
#2797 [22:36] <ferdinand> when i tried to install the nvidia it put my default driver in another file
#2798 [22:36] <ferdinand> nvidia failed,im stuck in tty
#2799 [22:37] <Kealper> o.o
#2800 [22:37] <ferdinand> and i cant log in to open the file to get my default driver
#2801 [22:37] <Kealper> grey! customer!
#2802 [22:37] <ferdinand> ha
#2803 [22:37] <Kealper> i suck too much at linux to help with that
#2804 [22:38] <ferdinand> ok
#2805 [22:38] <ferdinand> anybody else here know anything
#2806 [22:38] <ferdinand> ?
#2807 [22:39] <Kealper> oh mighty GreyVulpine, art thou up to thy chalenge?
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#2809 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Wah
#2810 [22:40] <ferdinand> my recent posts
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#2812 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> What flavor of *nix?
#2813 [22:40] <ferdinand> ubuntu
#2814 [22:40] <ferdinand> ya know, the greatest one
#2815 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> How'd you get the drivers?
#2816 [22:41] <ferdinand> through this irc
#2817 [22:41] <Kealper> offical nvidia site
#2818 [22:41] <ferdinand> yes
#2819 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Well, um. ubuntu has a menu for those drivers. check system -> administration -> software sources.
#2820 [22:43] <ferdinand> cant get in
#2821 [22:43] <Kealper> i don't think x server is running for him though
#2822 [22:43] <ferdinand> second
#2823 [22:43] <ferdinand> that screwed my comp like that before
#2824 [22:43] <ferdinand> i was stuck in tty
#2825 [22:43] <ferdinand> and had to reset to defaults
#2826 [22:43] <Kealper> uhh
#2827 [22:43] <Kealper> that's not normal
#2828 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> What version did you get of the nvidia drivers?
#2829 [22:44] <ferdinand> th most recent
#2830 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't help
#2831 [22:44] <Kealper> latset available for the geforce 6150se
#2832 [22:44] <ferdinand> yes
#2833 [22:44] <ferdinand> howd you remember?
#2834 [22:44] <Kealper> i've got the memory of a fly!
#2835 [22:44] <tangoMom> Tango Mom, back again.
#2836 [22:45] <ferdinand> thats not good
#2837 [22:45] <Kealper> i just had the urge to say "copy that, Tango Mom."
#2838 [22:45] <ferdinand> , you know they only live for 24 hours
#2839 [22:46] <Kealper> some can live for up to 3 days :O
#2840 [22:46] <ferdinand> reaaly?
#2841 [22:46] <tangoMom> I think this might be above me. I setup my minecraft server, put my name in the user list, fixed the IP address for my wireless network, and then isn't the address for the server just the fixed IP address with a dot followed by 25565?
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#2843 [22:46] <Kealper> don't have anything after the address
#2844 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> ip.add.re.ss:port
#2845 [22:46] <Kealper> but for future reference, it's :
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#2847 [22:48] <tangoMom> That did it. Thanks so much! I will learn the game a bit, then tackle setting up the server version on his mac! THANKS THANKS THANKS.
#2848 [22:48] <ferdinand> what is the best version of linux
#2849 [22:48] <ferdinand> ?
#2850 [22:49] <Kealper> tangoMom: i recommend watching a youtube video called Surviving Your First Night
#2851 [22:49] <Kealper> !tutorial
#2852 [22:49] <Kealper> that link
#2853 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> the best version of *nix is the one you compile yourself.
#2854 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> tailored to your needs and your computer.
#2855 [22:50] <tangoMom> Yes, new. Saw the youtube videos witht the two guys traveling around. Laughed a lot. Thanks for the tip. I will sign out to give my CPU a bit more power.
#2856 [22:51] <Kealper> that's pretty hardcore....my mom could not even check her email without using AOL....
#2857 [22:52] <Kealper> (the software, not the website)
#2858 [22:55] <ferdinand> any ideas grey?
#2859 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Go through a repo?
#2860 [22:56] <ferdinand> a what?
#2861 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> repository?
#2862 [22:56] <Kealper> package respository
#2863 [22:56] <ferdinand> whats that
#2864 [22:56] <Kealper> do you know what aptitude is?
#2865 [22:56] <ferdinand> nope
#2866 [22:56] <Kealper> :/
#2867 [22:57] <ferdinand> i dont repair comps
#2868 [22:57] <ferdinand> i usually screw around with terminal or cmd until it works
#2869 [22:57] <ferdinand> ive gotten rather well at that
#2870 [22:58] <aetherian> !ping
#2871 [22:58] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.401 Seconds.
#2872 [22:58] <aetherian> hey guys
#2873 [22:58] <aetherian> I'ma backa
#2874 [22:58] <Kealper> aetherian: are you any good with linux?
#2875 [22:58] <aetherian> wha-
#2876 [22:58] <aetherian> aha
#2877 [22:58] <aetherian> heehee
#2878 [22:58] <aetherian> heh
#2879 [22:58] <aetherian> you crack me up
#2880 [22:58] <Kealper> i'll take that as a no
#2881 [22:59] <aetherian> no I am not, kel- I mean kealps
#2882 [22:59] <aetherian> never used it once in my life
#2883 [22:59] <aetherian> although I have a friend that likes it
#2884 [22:59] <aetherian> can't you play linux as some kind of file on windows?
#2885 [23:00] <ferdinand> yes through vm, but it sucks
#2886 [23:00] <Kealper> yea, a ton in here as well, but they are all afk....they could probably just ninja out a terminal command to fix ferdinand's nix in one go...
#2887 [23:00] <Kealper> thee is Wine
#2888 [23:00] <Kealper> there*
#2889 [23:00] <aetherian> wine?
#2890 [23:00] <ferdinand> still sucks
#2891 [23:00] <aetherian> no thanks
#2892 [23:01] <aetherian> I don't drink
#2893 [23:01] <ferdinand> to many horror stories
#2894 [23:01] <Kealper> ferdinand: what do you mean you only have tty? like shell access? or you don't have any gui?
#2895 [23:01] <Kealper> Wine isn't THAT bad....lol
#2896 [23:02] <ferdinand> no gui, only tty, all graphics drivers are down and cannot get them back up
#2897 [23:02] <ferdinand> thats the problem
#2898 [23:02] <aetherian> igh, bing is quite annoying
#2899 [23:02] <Kealper> ok....
#2900 [23:02] <Kealper> this will basically be the legally blind leading the totally blind, but i'll give a shot and helping you
#2901 [23:03] <Kealper> you still have sudo access?
#2902 [23:03] <aetherian> uh oh
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#2904 [23:03] <aetherian> a blind man
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#2906 [23:03] <aetherian> is going to shoot someone
#2907 [23:03] <ferdinand> yes
#2908 [23:03] <Kealper> ok then
#2909 [23:03] <Kealper> gimme a sec to see what i'm looking for
#2910 [23:03] <ferdinand> sure
#2911 [23:06] <Kealper> hmm
#2912 [23:06] <Kealper> try typing sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
#2913 [23:08] <Kealper> rawr? lag?
#2914 [23:08] <ferdinand> it says that it has been converted into an upstart job, and to try start(8)
#2915 [23:09] <Kealper> O.o
#2916 [23:09] <Kealper> i assume you restarted after installing the drivrs?
#2917 [23:09] <Kealper> drivers*
#2918 [23:10] <ferdinand> there were no drivers installed, nvidia failed while installing
#2919 [23:10] <Kealper> oh?
#2920 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> define "failed"
#2921 [23:10] <Kealper> what did it say?
#2922 [23:11] <ferdinand> and it put default drivers into another file
#2923 [23:11] <ferdinand> hold on
#2924 [23:12] <ferdinand> it wont open the file now, let me look it up agaon
#2925 [23:12] <ferdinand> agaim*
#2926 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> You know... usually people get, and commend ubuntu because of its simplier GUI support..
#2927 [23:13] <Kealper> my solution would be to reinstall the os....but..that's just me....
#2928 [23:14] <ferdinand> dont know how to erase this one
#2929 [23:14] <ferdinand> i also dual boot with windows
#2930 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> install ubuntu again, choose to format the partition?
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#2932 [23:15] <Kealper> do you really dual boot or did you install it through windows using WUBI?
#2933 [23:15] <ferdinand> dual
#2934 [23:16] <ferdinand> i cant find it, but it was something along the lines of:
#2935 [23:18] <ferdinand> nvidia failed to install, this usually happens because a neoveau file notices nvidia and will not let it install, or nvidia driver is not compatible with your computer
#2936 [23:18] <ferdinand> some thig along those lines
#2937 [23:19] <Kealper> neoveau :/
#2938 [23:20] <ferdinand> do you know it?
#2939 [23:21] <ferdinand> nouveau
#2940 [23:21] <ferdinand> my default driver
#2941 [23:21] <ferdinand> there are alot of problems with nouveau and nvidia as i have reade
#2942 [23:21] <Kealper> it's not a very good driver, but it's opensource
#2943 [23:22] <ferdinand> is that why minecraft got th error report for the executable jar, and lagged my entire computer and the game when i called it from terminal?
#2944 [23:23] <Kealper> probably
#2945 [23:26] <ferdinand> thats good to know, now
#2946 [23:26] <Kealper> being totally honest, i have no idea how to fix the predicament you are in right now...
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#2948 [23:27] <ferdinand> no prob
#2949 [23:27] <ferdinand> this sucks, theres homework in there
#2950 [23:27] <gu1l7y5p4rk> Alright, I didn't wanna come here and ask, but I need help...
#2951 [23:27] <dopeghoti> ..neuveau drivers should in no way interfere with a _serveR_
#2952 [23:27] <aetherian> hmm
#2953 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> gu1l7y5p4rk - With?
#2954 [23:27] <dopeghoti> (hi)
#2955 [23:27] <gu1l7y5p4rk> MC of course! I get a Fatal error (4)
#2956 [23:27] <ferdinand> what the hell, AMBUSH!!!
#2957 [23:27] <aetherian> hey dopefish
#2958 [23:27] <gu1l7y5p4rk> at 81%
#2959 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> In.. the client? Updating?
#2960 [23:28] <gu1l7y5p4rk> yep everytime.
#2961 [23:28] <gu1l7y5p4rk> Ive tried everything.
#2962 [23:28] <gu1l7y5p4rk> I've been trying to get it to work for weeks.
#2963 [23:28] <gu1l7y5p4rk> Deleted stuff, re-downloaded stuff.
#2964 [23:29] <DopeGhoti> gu1l7y5p4rk: Which OS?
#2965 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> laptop? desktop? How is it connected to the 'net?
#2966 [23:29] <gu1l7y5p4rk> xp, desktop, work network. <<Has a blocker.
#2967 [23:29] <ferdinand> do you know how i can reinstall over ubuntu without interfering with windows?
#2968 [23:29] <ferdinand> i am dual booted
#2969 [23:29] <gu1l7y5p4rk> I even ran java through a proxy server.
#2970 [23:29] <gu1l7y5p4rk> Still didn't work
#2971 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> First off, did you delete the /.minecraft/ folder?
#2972 [23:30] <DopeGhoti> ferdinand: just re-running the regular installer should do fine.
#2973 [23:30] <gu1l7y5p4rk> Yup
#2974 [23:30] <DopeGhoti> gu1l7y5p4rk: ^ what he said.
#2975 [23:30] <ferdinand> ok
#2976 [23:30] <gu1l7y5p4rk> I have over and over.
#2977 [23:30] <DopeGhoti> is there any way you can not have to run through the proxy server?
#2978 [23:30] <gu1l7y5p4rk> Yea, it still doesn't work.
#2979 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> gu1l7y5p4rk - Does the browser version work?
#2980 [23:31] <gu1l7y5p4rk> Idk, minecraft.net is blocked and java doesn't work through my http proxy.
#2981 [23:31] <DopeGhoti> well
#2982 [23:31] <DopeGhoti> if minecraft.net is blocked, that's your problem
#2983 [23:31] * GreyVulpine nods
#2983 [23:31] <gu1l7y5p4rk> It let's me download to 81% though.
#2984 [23:31] <DopeGhoti> that's like complaining gmail.com won't work if you can't get to google.com
#2985 [23:32] <Kealper> most of the files are not hosted off minecraft.net
#2986 [23:32] <DopeGhoti> most of the downlad is standard libraries that may not be coming from a site at the minecraft.net domain
#2987 [23:32] <aetherian> oh yay
#2988 [23:32] <Kealper> they are hosted off a content delivery network
#2989 [23:32] <Kealper> what dope said
#2990 [23:32] <aetherian> I found where my microphone on my laptop is at
#2991 [23:32] <aetherian> :)
#2992 [23:32] <gu1l7y5p4rk> ok, but that's not all...
#2993 [23:32] <gu1l7y5p4rk> I took the minecraft from my desktop at the house, ya know, the .minecraft dir.
#2994 [23:32] <gu1l7y5p4rk> Then put it on this pc.
#2995 [23:33] <gu1l7y5p4rk> didn't work.
#2996 [23:33] <DopeGhoti> yes, but it still checks for updates.
#2997 [23:33] <DopeGhoti> or tries to
#2998 [23:33] <gu1l7y5p4rk> Yea, that's my prob
#2999 [23:33] <Kealper> it won't be able to log in or anything, since it can't connect to minecraft.net
#3000 [23:33] <gu1l7y5p4rk> I log in fine.
#3001 [23:33] <DopeGhoti> no, your problem is that your internet connection cann't get you to minecraft.net
#3002 [23:33] <Kealper> hmm...Notch must have changed the login server then
#3003 [23:33] <gu1l7y5p4rk> does that mean i cannot ping it?
#3004 [23:34] <DopeGhoti> clearly whoever is running your network doesn't want you to get to that site. This is #minecrafthelp, not #defyingsysadminshelp
#3005 [23:34] <DopeGhoti> this is somehting you should address with your network administrator.
#3006 [23:34] <Kealper> so basically...ask the IT guy REALLY nicely to unblock minecraft.net
#3007 [23:34] * DopeGhoti is not comfortable helping people work around explicit blocks.
#3007 [23:35] <DopeGhoti> (or, stop playing games at work)
#3008 [23:35] <gu1l7y5p4rk> lol, IT is fine with it, but isn't ever here.
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#3010 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> If IT was fine with it, minecraft.net wouldn't be blocked then.
#3011 [23:35] <DopeGhoti> If your IT guy is a real IT guy, he doesn't need to be ther.
#3012 [23:35] <DopeGhoti> there, even
#3013 [23:35] <Kealper> what they both said
#3014 [23:36] <mib_rdemaj> This may sound like a dumb question but how do I run minecraft on linux?
#3015 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> !client
#3016 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> mib_rdemaj: right-click Minecraft.jar, select 'Open with Sun Java 6 Runtime'
#3017 [23:37] <DopeGhoti> (assuming a GNOME GUI)
#3018 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> or:
#3019 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#3020 [23:37] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: is the -cp paramater needed for that jarfile? I thought you only needed that for ~/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#3021 [23:37] * GreyVulpine nodnods
#3021 [23:38] <mib_rdemaj> sec
#3022 [23:38] <DopeGhoti> (it just ran for me with just java -jar Minecraft.jar..)
#3023 [23:38] <ferdinand> im booting up so i can install ubuntu again, and it is stuck and says :SYSLINUX 4.02 2010-07-21 EDD"
#3024 [23:39] <ferdinand> its never done this before
#3025 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> -jar and -cp have nearly similiar arguments.
#3026 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> But they have specific functions.
#3027 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Bah, there was a really good article, but I can't find it anymore
#3028 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> just google "-cp" vs "-jar"
#3029 [23:41] <Kealper> -cp is probably dangerous to google
#3030 [23:42] <Kealper> safesearch would be your friend on that one
#3031 [23:42] * GreyVulpine snerks
#3031 [23:44] <mib_rdemaj> ok im really new to linix and i need help installing minecraft
#3032 [23:44] <mib_rdemaj> can any one help me
#3033 [23:44] <ferdinand> got it, i feel stupid1
#3034 [23:44] <ferdinand> !*
#3035 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_rdemaj - With what exactly?
#3036 [23:44] <Kealper> mib_rdemaj: download the client and run it, nothing much more to it
#3037 [23:44] <mib_rdemaj> i did and nothing happens
#3038 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean nothing happens?
#3039 [23:45] <DopeGhoti> define 'nothing'
#3040 [23:45] <DopeGhoti> be _very_ specific
#3041 [23:45] <ferdinand> ok when this is installed again can any body walk me through the process of getting nvidia in without screwing it up again?
#3042 [23:45] <ferdinand> please
#3043 [23:46] * Kealper can't
#3043 [23:46] <mib_rdemaj> i downloaded the .jar and extracted the file
#3044 [23:46] <Kealper> bad mib, bad!
#3045 [23:46] <DopeGhoti> no extracting needed
#3046 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> You don't extract
#3047 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#3048 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Run it with that in the terminal
#3049 [23:46] <DopeGhoti> ferdinand: once you're installed, go to System -> Hardware Drivers
#3050 [23:46] <DopeGhoti> ferdinand: the rest should explain itself
#3051 [23:47] <ferdinand> i did that the first time and it screwed my system up
#3052 [23:47] <ferdinand> same problem
#3053 [23:47] <mib_rdemaj> could not find the main class
#3054 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Run it in the directory where you have minecraft.jar
#3055 [23:50] <ferdinand> are we frozen again
#3056 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#3057 [23:50] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.251 Seconds.
#3058 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3059 [23:50] <ferdinand> or thats why i was confused with the first nvidia driver download, it screwed me up to
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#3061 [23:59] <ferdinand> alrught