#1 [00:00] <ferdinand> bye
#2 [00:02] <guacamole> Kealper is the best
#3 [00:02] <guacamole> fixed my minecraft, therefore kealper rocks
#4 [00:07] * GreyVulpine cheers Kealper on
#4 [00:09] <CruelNoise> but even kealper can't fix my minecraft ='(
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#6 [00:11] <kirbywarp> Hi everyone, got some technical troubles here
#7 [00:11] <kirbywarp> anyone available?
#8 [00:12] <DopeGhoti> I'm spoken for, but will happily try to assist you.
#9 [00:12] <kirbywarp> sweet
#10 [00:12] <kirbywarp> I got a weird issue on an arch linux system
#11 [00:13] <kirbywarp> I've got openjdk6 installed, and when I run minecraft, the menu and inventory gui's are rendered smaller than normal
#12 [00:13] <kirbywarp> the game is still playable, just hard to see
#13 [00:13] <kirbywarp> and not how I think its supposed to work
#14 [00:14] <kirbywarp> I can fullscreen, and everything becomes the correct scale, but if I switch back and forth too much, the game and my computer freeze
#15 [00:14] <kirbywarp> couldn't find anything online about it, so I thought I'd come here
#16 [00:14] <kirbywarp> (I had sun's java installed, and things were working swell, but the game didn't scale on fullscreen and it caused issues with other java programs)
#17 [00:15] <kirbywarp> that's about it
#18 [00:18] <kirbywarp> yyyup...
#19 [00:22] <kirbywarp> any ideas? is it the game? is it openjdk? kinda at a loss here...
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#21 [00:23] <DopeGhoti> nothing comes to mind.. you've tried both Java engines
#22 [00:23] <tonkatim420> oi oi
#23 [00:23] <DopeGhoti> you could try deleting ~/.minecraft and seeing if a fresh download of the client helps
#24 [00:24] <kirbywarp> I deleted the minecraft.jar and version, and tried it then, and it didn't help
#25 [00:24] <kirbywarp> would deleting the whole thing make any difference?
#26 [00:25] <kirbywarp> eh, I'll give it a go
#27 [00:25] <kirbywarp> ls
#28 [00:25] <kirbywarp> whoops, wrong window.
#29 [00:26] <kirbywarp> hmm, doesn't look like it, got a small logo...
#30 [00:27] <kirbywarp> Unrelated note, but the logo stays up for a good 10 seconds or so for me, that isn't normal, is it?
#31 [00:27] <kirbywarp> no, didn't work
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#36 [00:36] <tsyde> I NEED HALP
#37 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> With
#38 [00:36] <tsyde> in my server
#39 [00:36] <tsyde> i use signs
#40 [00:36] <tsyde> and they automatically say !?
#41 [00:37] <tsyde> i dont know how to fix it
#42 [00:37] <tsyde> well
#43 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> You running any mods on your server?
#44 [00:39] <tsyde> yes
#45 [00:39] <tsyde> do you want me to list them?
#46 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> If you would..
#47 [00:39] <tsyde> okay
#48 [00:40] <kirbywarp> out of curiosity, anyone here running minecraft on a linux box, and get a long delay at the logo screen?
#49 [00:40] <tsyde> ClassChoose, Cuboid, DalaJail, DalaRank,flyRidgeFly, Grapling Hook, iConomy, Magic Carpet, MCstats, Mvoter, Stargate, WaypointPlugin
#50 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Can't say I have seen that kirbywarp
#51 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Good god. that's certainly a list of plugins..
#52 [00:41] <tsyde> yeah
#53 [00:41] <kirbywarp> which ones would affect signs?
#54 [00:41] <tsyde> idk
#55 [00:41] <kirbywarp> Did you pick them out?
#56 [00:41] <tsyde> yes
#57 [00:41] <kirbywarp> ...
#58 [00:41] <tsyde> stargate uses signs
#59 [00:43] <tsyde> ill disable it and see if that helps
#60 [00:43] <kirbywarp> GreyVulpine: I've had it as long as I've bought the game, using both versions of java (sun and openjdk), so I don't know why it happens, nor why nobody else seems to get it...
#61 [00:43] <kirbywarp> I do get a list of
#62 [00:44] <kirbywarp> "failed to open device" messages, but there is a way to get rid of them temporarily, but it doesn't seem to change the delay
#63 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> Updated video drivers?
#64 [00:44] <kirbywarp> I also get a "Linux plugin claims to have found X controllers"
#65 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> I've seen that before, can't recall with what though
#66 [00:45] <kirbywarp> I have a weird system with two video cards, an intel integrated and a radeon
#67 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> You're not running multi-monitors, right?
#68 [00:45] <kirbywarp> I have the intel running, with radeon disabled
#69 [00:45] <kirbywarp> no
#70 [00:45] <kirbywarp> I do have the latest drivers packaged for arch, though
#71 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> Are they necessarily the latest available though?
#72 [00:46] <kirbywarp> I used to think it was related to sound actually, since I was using oss, but I switched to alsa recently and still get the same readout
#73 [00:46] <kirbywarp> I think they are
#74 [00:47] <kirbywarp> The community stays on top of things, since arch is designed to be built from the ground up by the end user
#75 [00:48] <kirbywarp> it'd be interesting if there was another arch user here who doesn't get the same errors
#76 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#77 [00:48] <kirbywarp> or gets the same ones, really :P
#78 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> How about OpenAL?
#79 [00:48] <kirbywarp> hmm, I think my audio is fine
#80 [00:49] <kirbywarp> I have Alsa, which is the big name in the Linux community for sound
#81 [00:49] <kirbywarp> actually...
#82 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> I mean, minecraft packages an old OpenAL file in its /.minecraft/bin folder
#83 [00:49] <kirbywarp> gotcha
#84 [00:50] <kirbywarp> yeah, there is a message saying it starts up OpenAL, didn't remember that before
#85 [00:50] <kirbywarp> try downloading the latest and replacing?
#86 [00:50] * GreyVulpine nods
#86 [00:50] <kirbywarp> righto, be back later
#87 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> It's mostly benign, but rarely can cause issues.
#88 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Notch included an OpenAl file from early 2000s
#89 [00:51] <kirbywarp> I see
#90 [00:51] <tsyde> I have run through all my plugins and none of them change the !? on the signs
#91 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Run the vanilla server?
#92 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Mine, vanilla, doesn't have ! for signs
#93 [00:52] <tsyde> how?
#94 [00:52] <tsyde> minecraft_server?
#95 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Run the minecraft.jar directly?
#96 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> er, yeah
#97 [00:52] <tsyde> ill try
#98 [00:52] <kirbywarp> hey, if I remove the .so things related to openal, and then install the linux package for openal, would minecraft be able to find it?
#99 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> No
#100 [00:52] <kirbywarp> ok
#101 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Would need to copy it over
#102 [00:53] <tsyde> i cant run vannilla
#103 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#104 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you?
#105 [00:54] <tsyde> it doesnt load up
#106 [00:55] <tsyde> the log doesnt stop
#107 [00:55] <tsyde> so you dont have any idea?
#108 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Not right offhand..
#109 [01:01] <aetherian> hmm
#110 [01:01] <aetherian> I really would like some tea
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#112 [01:02] <kirbywarp> well, can't find a replacement for libopenal64.so, but remade the 32-bit, so here goes nothing.
#113 [01:02] <kirbywarp> urk, no change
#114 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, then, uh, try the latest lwjgl?
#115 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> http://www.lwjgl.org/download.php
#116 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> Try the latest nightly build from there
#117 [01:03] <kirbywarp> I've got it, thanks though
#118 [01:03] <kirbywarp> wait, does minecraft include the latest stable?
#119 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> I believe it includes 2.4.2
#120 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> Not 2.6
#121 [01:03] <kirbywarp> ah, ok then
#122 [01:04] <kirbywarp> I might go for stable actually :P
#123 [01:09] <kirbywarp> awwww
#124 [01:09] <kirbywarp> exception: "java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: orlwjgl.DefaultSysImplementation.getPointerSize()"
#125 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> Did you get the right one?
#126 [01:10] <kirbywarp> thought I did, didn't look like there was a separate 64 bit
#127 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-gahttp://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.6/lwjgl-2.6.zip/downloadme-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.6/lwjgl-2.6.zip/download
#128 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> There should be 2 folders you extract from
#129 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> jar and natives
#130 [01:11] <kirbywarp> oooh...
#131 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> going into /.minecraft/bin and /.minecraft/bin/navtives
#132 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> er, natives
#133 [01:11] <kirbywarp> lemme double check
#134 [01:11] <kirbywarp> heh
#135 [01:12] * kirbywarp goes to fix silly oversights
#135 [01:14] <kirbywarp> weird, it seems to have openal as well...
#136 [01:14] <kirbywarp> turns out I didn't need to do a rebuild???
#137 [01:18] <genshou> what's up tonight, Minecrafters ^_^
#138 [01:18] <lemon-rev> reshaping mines
#139 [01:18] <lemon-rev> lol
#140 [01:18] <genshou> Why reshape a mine? >.>;
#141 [01:18] <kirbywarp> urrrr... fixing bugs that won't go away.. :(
#142 [01:18] <kirbywarp> no dice on the replacement packages
#143 [01:19] <kirbywarp> no more pointer exception though
#144 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#145 [01:19] <genshou> no bahs!
#146 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Humbug
#147 [01:20] <kirbywarp> It would be a good idea to package more recent versions of these packages for linux systems, I guess, but sadly it has not helped me
#148 [01:21] <kirbywarp> I don't suppose you're running arch, genshou? :P
#149 [01:21] * genshou has no idea what kirbywarp is talking about :P
#149 [01:21] <kirbywarp> aww crackers...
#150 [01:22] <kirbywarp> I've got this weird thing where the menu, logo, and inventory guis all render at about half to a quarter their normal size
#151 [01:22] <kirbywarp> and my game also hangs at the logo screen for about 10 seconds
#152 [01:22] <genshou> owo
#153 [01:22] <genshou> Got any mods?
#154 [01:22] <kirbywarp> yeah, but this happens on vanilla as well
#155 [01:22] <aetherian> kirby
#156 [01:22] <kirbywarp> I've got betterlights installed
#157 [01:22] <aetherian> have you tried making the screen bigger?
#158 [01:22] <kirbywarp> yep
#159 [01:22] <kirbywarp> that renders everything to scale
#160 [01:22] <kirbywarp> when its full screen
#161 [01:23] <aetherian> not full
#162 [01:23] <aetherian> bigger
#163 [01:23] <kirbywarp> yeah
#164 [01:23] <genshou> My game takes longer at logo screen ever since I installed this 128x128 texture pack w/ Better Lights
#165 [01:23] <kirbywarp> things slowly scale up to full
#166 [01:23] <genshou> ...slowly scale up to full?
#167 [01:23] <genshou> As in, they grow like black magic, or...?
#168 [01:23] <kirbywarp> let me double check actually
#169 [01:24] <kirbywarp> and I was dead wrong
#170 [01:24] <kirbywarp> the menu jumps
#171 [01:24] <kirbywarp> between sizes
#172 [01:24] <genshou> screenshots? o.o
#173 [01:24] <kirbywarp> the render screen scales smoothly though
#174 [01:25] <kirbywarp> erm... irc?
#175 [01:25] <kirbywarp> haven't used it much
#176 [01:25] * genshou is asking you to provide screenshots of gameplay to demonstrate odd scaling issues :P
#176 [01:25] <kirbywarp> right
#177 [01:25] <kirbywarp> I'm not sure how to share pics
#178 [01:26] <genshou> use a hosting site?
#179 [01:26] <kirbywarp> know a good one?
#180 [01:26] <genshou> Photobucket, Imageshack, Tinypic?
#181 [01:26] <kirbywarp> I am nearly a noob when it comes to forum stuffs
#182 [01:26] <kirbywarp> righto, I'm on it
#183 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> imgur.com
#184 [01:27] <Miclee> http://imagebacon.com
#185 [01:27] <genshou> :)
#186 [01:27] <kirbywarp> heh, I don't actually have a screen capture program installed.... :P
#187 [01:27] <genshou> :P
#188 [01:28] <kirbywarp> no worries, I'll get back to you guys soon
#189 [01:28] <lemon-rev> press the key
#190 [01:28] <lemon-rev> at the top of the arrow keys called prnt scrn
#191 [01:28] <lemon-rev> lol
#192 [01:28] <lemon-rev> :P
#193 [01:28] <kirbywarp> I got an arch system, where you build it from base
#194 [01:28] <kirbywarp> so the prnt scrn button isn't mapped to a program
#195 [01:28] <lemon-rev> i see
#196 [01:28] <lemon-rev> well it doesnt need to b e
#197 [01:29] <kirbywarp> huh, gimp works
#198 [01:29] <lemon-rev> just need a paint program
#199 [01:35] <lemon-rev> stupidist part about making my cave look kinda sqare is that i will always run into another cave somewhere then have to explore it or another part of cave that has already been discovered :P
#200 [01:36] <kirbywarp> http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-gahttp://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.6/lwjgl-2.6.zip/downloadme-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.6/lwjgl-2.6.zip/download
#201 [01:36] <kirbywarp> yeek
#202 [01:36] <kirbywarp> http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-gahttp://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.6/lwjgl-2.6.zip/downloadme-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.6/lwjgl-2.6.zip/download
#203 [01:36] <kirbywarp> ...
#204 [01:37] <kirbywarp> wait one sec for the fail to go away
#205 [01:37] <kirbywarp> http://i56.tinypic.com/a2df7l.png for a small screen, small menu
#206 [01:38] <lemon-rev> hm
#207 [01:38] <lemon-rev> that looks kinda normal if you ask me at that resultion anyways
#208 [01:38] <kirbywarp> http://i53.tinypic.com/2w39lsj.png for a tall screen, just before the jump
#209 [01:38] <lemon-rev> now that looks small but its still readable
#210 [01:39] <kirbywarp> http://i51.tinypic.com/2jevh1u.png for the jump, slightly taller than the last pic
#211 [01:39] <lemon-rev> ok
#212 [01:39] <lemon-rev> thats much better
#213 [01:39] <lemon-rev> thats how it should look
#214 [01:40] <lemon-rev> well at least thats how it looks on mine
#215 [01:40] <kirbywarp> Scaling didn't work for me before, the render window stayed constant even though the window size changed, but perhaps this is the normal behavior for changing window sizes?
#216 [01:41] <lemon-rev> well it looks like its working now
#217 [01:41] <kirbywarp> I've still got a hang at the logo screen and a freezing bug on resizing, if you care to take a crack at those. :P
#218 [01:41] <kirbywarp> its the hang that irritates me the most, really
#219 [01:41] <lemon-rev> hm, when you chance the window size the text should adjust with it
#220 [01:41] <kirbywarp> yep, it does
#221 [01:41] <kirbywarp> everything scales, including the buttons
#222 [01:42] <lemon-rev> well you could always resort back to old style and see if that helps any
#223 [01:42] <lemon-rev> or takes away the lagg
#224 [01:42] <lemon-rev> yup
#225 [01:42] <kirbywarp> old style?
#226 [01:42] <lemon-rev> well
#227 [01:42] <lemon-rev> you said you had a map packl
#228 [01:42] <lemon-rev> or somecrap
#229 [01:42] <kirbywarp> vanilla has the same issue
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#231 [01:42] <kirbywarp> betterlight mod
#232 [01:42] <kirbywarp> :P
#233 [01:42] <lemon-rev> still dont know wtf your talking about vanilla heard of it,
#234 [01:42] <lemon-rev> dont know of it
#235 [01:42] <lemon-rev> anyways
#236 [01:42] <kirbywarp> hee hee
#237 [01:42] <kirbywarp> modless
#238 [01:43] <kirbywarp> fresh download
#239 [01:43] <lemon-rev> ok
#240 [01:43] <kirbywarp> original version
#241 [01:43] <DopeGhoti> are you kidding? The vanilla mod is the best mod
#242 [01:43] <kirbywarp> no choclate chips or flavoring
#243 [01:43] <DopeGhoti> and also the most stable
#244 [01:43] <lemon-rev> fair enough
#245 [01:43] <kirbywarp> but yeah, I got the hang from day one
#246 [01:43] <kirbywarp> haven't been able to find anyone on forumns who've gotten it either, which is annoying
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#248 [01:46] <kirbywarp> aw crap, forgot to back up my saves...
#249 [01:46] <kirbywarp> oh well, nothing like starting with a fresh world
#250 [01:47] <tonkatim420> indeed
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#252 [01:48] <lemon-rev> why,
#253 [01:48] <lemon-rev> casue you get to re moddle everything again
#254 [01:48] <lemon-rev> or dig to your hearts content ?
#255 [01:48] <kirbywarp> probably
#256 [01:49] <kirbywarp> so no one here has heard of a long wait at the logo screen?
#257 [01:49] <lemon-rev> only when it freezes
#258 [01:49] <lemon-rev> like forever, or people cant wait and come in here and compain there minecraft has frozen
#259 [01:49] <lemon-rev> and it usually implys they have mods
#260 [01:50] <kirbywarp> mm...
#261 [01:50] <kirbywarp> I do get errors, but it seems to start up alright
#262 [01:50] <kirbywarp> "FAiled to open device (/dev/input/eventX):" where X is a number from 1-10
#263 [01:51] <kirbywarp> and "Linux plugin claims to have found X controllers" where X varies, but is usually 1
#264 [01:51] <lemon-rev> gay
#265 [01:52] <lemon-rev> well im not linux orientated :(
#266 [01:52] <kirbywarp> for people who know unix, I can chmod each event in /dev/input to be owned by myself instead of root, and the "Failed to open device" messeges go away, but the "claims to have found" stays
#267 [01:53] <kirbywarp> rather, chown
#268 [01:53] <lemon-rev> dammit i hit another one of my open caves and its stoped me from expanding my upper cave :(
#269 [01:54] <lemon-rev> does minecraft work regardless of errors though ?
#270 [01:54] <kirbywarp> seems like it
#271 [01:54] <kirbywarp> just that annoying wait
#272 [01:54] <kirbywarp> haven't run into any crashes save that freeze through swapping between fullscreen a bunch of times
#273 [01:55] <lemon-rev> hm, ouch
#274 [01:55] <lemon-rev> a freeze everytime you go from one screen to the other
#275 [01:55] <lemon-rev> hm
#276 [01:55] <lemon-rev> not good
#277 [01:55] <kirbywarp> where a bunch seems to be 2
#278 [01:56] <kirbywarp> not switching screens, switching the minecraft window from fullscreen to regular and back
#279 [01:56] <lemon-rev> bah, just keep it at one size and like try and work around it with screen being as big as possible with out getting in other icons way
#280 [01:57] <kirbywarp> 'swhat I'm going for at the moment
#281 [01:57] <kirbywarp> I just like to know whats going on when things fail, thats all
#282 [01:58] <lemon-rev> i think we all do kerby
#283 [01:58] <lemon-rev> i know minecraft got issues with me with like sound but everything works so i dont care for em
#284 [01:58] <lemon-rev> also wanta know what the sound of the train passing means in minecraft
#285 [01:59] <kirbywarp> ?
#286 [01:59] <lemon-rev> you turn music off
#287 [01:59] <lemon-rev> theres some sounds that only come about at random as far as im concerned
#288 [01:59] <kirbywarp> ah
#289 [01:59] <lemon-rev> theres a train noise that comes on, i have it like paused atm
#290 [01:59] <lemon-rev> theres
#291 [01:59] <lemon-rev> music for evening and morning
#292 [02:00] <lemon-rev> theres another sound for monsters swawning i think at night
#293 [02:00] <lemon-rev> or somewhere close in caves
#294 [02:00] <kirbywarp> luckily I haven't had much trouble with sound, despite having switched sound systems
#295 [02:00] <kirbywarp> I think its the second one
#296 [02:01] <lemon-rev> i see
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#299 [02:04] <kirbywarp> hm, got a place with a fair amount of clay near my spawn/base, but no coal in sight :(
#300 [02:05] <ATW136> I have a quick question
#301 [02:05] <lemon-rev> make it so
#302 [02:05] <lemon-rev> lol
#303 [02:05] <ATW136> my minecraft.exe isnt working
#304 [02:06] <lemon-rev> what exactly do you mean not working and what os you running
#305 [02:06] <ATW136> it says Launch4j Access is Denied
#306 [02:06] <ATW136> windows vista
#307 [02:06] <lemon-rev> so windows vista is blocking minecraft
#308 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Run as administrator?
#309 [02:06] <ATW136> tried same thing
#310 [02:06] <lemon-rev> i dont know shit about allowing crap on shitty os's but you could look it up for allowing programs
#311 [02:06] <kirbywarp> firewall maybe? since minecraft attempts to access the minecraft.net
#312 [02:06] <lemon-rev> you running an av like virus scanner
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#314 [02:07] <ATW136> i dont beleive so
#315 [02:07] <lemon-rev> dont belive check
#316 [02:07] <lemon-rev> lol
#317 [02:07] <fogWork> Darn colourspam when I join this chan ;P
#318 [02:07] <ATW136> did
#319 [02:07] <fogWork> Morning Grey
#320 [02:07] <ATW136> i have not had a problem until' today
#321 [02:08] <kirbywarp> grah, I found IRON in the walls before I found coal
#322 [02:08] <ATW136> xD
#323 [02:08] <fogWork> Thats nothing
#324 [02:08] <fogWork> Darkness found me before I found coal, so did the monsters
#325 [02:09] <lemon-rev> i think you will find that happens quite a bit in minecraft
#326 [02:09] <kirbywarp> darkenss will claim me soon if I can't mine fast enough...
#327 [02:09] <fogWork> It certainly does, lemon-rev... horrible :P
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#329 [02:09] <lemon-rev> hahahahha
#330 [02:09] <lemon-rev> yup
#331 [02:11] <kirbywarp> home! whoo hoo!
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#333 [02:11] <kirbywarp> darkness! oh no!
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#335 [02:15] <ATW136> ah i found a fourm to help me thanks for the help :D
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#337 [02:15] <guacamole> is it just me or have almost all the problems been nearly identical in nature
#338 [02:15] <kirbywarp> not from my view...
#339 [02:16] <fogWork> Well, well, well... crafty banned players try to impersonate server admins and requesting unban / ranks... and one of my mods fell for it -_-
#340 [02:16] <kirbywarp> unless you classify "IT DOESN'T WORK OMG!!!!1" as the same
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#344 [02:20] <fogWork> Why did they ever move from lilo to grub, one of the things I don't understand >_>
#345 [02:20] <guacamole> i suppose i'm the only one here who digs a hole down and blocks himself in
#346 [02:20] <kirbywarp> hm, haven't tried lilo, but I've had only good things happen with grub...
#347 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, digging? In Minecraft?
#348 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Blasphemy!
#349 [02:20] <DopeGhoti> fogWork: LILO has problems with very large disks
#350 [02:20] <fogWork> guacamole: I keep certain amounts of blocks for emergency shelter ;)
#351 [02:21] <kirbywarp> we've all been there, soldier :P
#352 [02:21] <DopeGhoti> GRUB was the solution
#353 [02:21] <fogWork> DopeGhoti: Ah, I see... wasn't a problem back in the days though ;)
#354 [02:21] <guacamole> oh, come on, i dig to make mob killing masterpieces
#355 [02:21] <guacamole> got a whole farm of them
#356 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Real Men don't need to dig
#357 [02:21] <DopeGhoti> Real Men make Creepers dig for them.
#358 [02:21] <fogWork> Real men use creepers for that? :P
#359 [02:21] <fogWork> ;D
#360 [02:21] <DopeGhoti> hah
#361 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Indeed!
#362 [02:21] <guacamole> lol
#363 [02:21] <kirbywarp> hah
#364 [02:22] <guacamole> creepers and spiders, they both are hax
#365 [02:22] <guacamole> down with creepers and spiders
#366 [02:22] <guacamole> drown 'em
#367 [02:22] <fogWork> Creepers are great fun
#368 [02:23] <kirbywarp> until one wants a tour of your house
#369 [02:23] <fogWork> It'd be skilled to even get close :P
#370 [02:23] <guacamole> i made my first house too big and one spawned in side my house
#371 [02:23] <kirbywarp> ah, beautiful coal :D
#372 [02:23] <fogWork> Plenty of light + bow & arrows ;)
#373 [02:24] <fogWork> Still, I want a blunderbuss
#374 [02:24] <guacamole> nah, fight 'em with your fists like a real suicidal man
#375 [02:24] <guacamole> knock them off ledges
#376 [02:24] <fogWork> Did that the first few times... through my door inside muh house
#377 [02:25] <DopeGhoti> my preferred weapon is my trusty bucket of magma
#378 [02:25] <guacamole> lol
#379 [02:25] <kirbywarp> hmm, better be on an incline for that
#380 [02:26] <fogWork> Jimmy Wales got crazy-eyes
#381 [02:26] <DopeGhoti> though.. I did once have to rebuild the frame and first floor of one of my houses thanks to that particular habit..
#382 [02:28] <kirbywarp> ha, there's a little 2-deep 2x2 hole on my home island, and I've got a pair of creepers trapped in them from overnight :D
#383 [02:29] <kirbywarp> VENGENCE!
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#385 [02:32] <EnjoiJM> hello?
#386 [02:32] <kirbywarp> howdy
#387 [02:32] <EnjoiJM> i could use some help with running the game in browser :o
#388 [02:33] <kirbywarp> I could try, but I'm not actually an official helper, so I may not be of much use
#389 [02:33] <EnjoiJM> lol ok
#390 [02:33] <DopeGhoti> which browser? OS?
#391 [02:33] <EnjoiJM> well, im trying to run it on chrome
#392 [02:33] <DopeGhoti> what trouble are you having?
#393 [02:33] <EnjoiJM> :o
#394 [02:33] <EnjoiJM> when i go to the page it stays white, and doesnt ask me to run the game or anything
#395 [02:34] <kirbywarp> what os?
#396 [02:34] <DopeGhoti> 'the page' being www.minecraft.net?
#397 [02:34] <EnjoiJM> oh i am sorry
#398 [02:34] <DopeGhoti> !check www.minecraft.net:80
#399 [02:34] <EnjoiJM> no
#400 [02:34] <EnjoiJM> when i go multiplayer or regular beta stuff
#401 [02:34] <EnjoiJM> if i click play in browser
#402 [02:35] <EnjoiJM> the game stays white
#403 [02:35] <kirbywarp> are you sure you have the java plugin for chrome?
#404 [02:35] <DopeGhoti> and what appears in the address bar?
#405 [02:35] <EnjoiJM> minecraft.net/game/
#406 [02:35] <EnjoiJM> and
#407 [02:36] <EnjoiJM> i downloaded java :o
#408 [02:36] <kirbywarp> depending on the os, it might not auto-install the plugin to run java in browser
#409 [02:36] <EnjoiJM> but i dont know if i have a plugin for chrome?
#410 [02:36] <DopeGhoti> in chrome, go to about:plugins
#411 [02:36] <DopeGhoti> you should see it listed there
#412 [02:37] <EnjoiJM> would this be 'about google chrome'?
#413 [02:37] <kirbywarp> you can also go to http://javatester.org/version.html
#414 [02:37] <kirbywarp> and see if that shows you a version
#415 [02:37] <DopeGhoti> no, it'd be in the address bar, where you usually type www.example.com
#416 [02:37] <DopeGhoti> in there, type about:plugins
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#419 [02:38] <Solvius> goodmorning :)
#420 [02:38] <DopeGhoti> salutations
#421 [02:38] <Solvius> a new day, with fresh new chances :)
#422 [02:38] <EnjoiJM> NPRuntime Scrip plug-in library for java(TM) deploy
#423 [02:38] <EnjoiJM> ?
#424 [02:38] <kirbywarp> trj the website I listed, that doesn't sound quite right
#425 [02:39] <DopeGhoti> you're looking, EnjoiJM, for something like "Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_22"
#426 [02:39] <EnjoiJM> only java thing i saw
#427 [02:39] <EnjoiJM> was
#428 [02:40] <EnjoiJM> what i said :o
#429 [02:40] <DopeGhoti> okay.
#430 [02:40] <DopeGhoti> go to java.oracle.com
#431 [02:40] <DopeGhoti> and download the latest JRE
#432 [02:40] <EnjoiJM> im sorry what is JRE?
#433 [02:41] <kirbywarp> java runtime environment
#434 [02:41] <DopeGhoti> ^ that.
#435 [02:41] <kirbywarp> its what you use to execute java programs
#436 [02:41] <kirbywarp> JDK is the development kit that gives you source for actually writing programs
#437 [02:41] <DopeGhoti> well.. it gives you the tools to deploy your own source
#438 [02:42] <EnjoiJM> java SE 6 update 23??
#439 [02:42] <EnjoiJM> idk what im looking for 100%'
#440 [02:42] <DopeGhoti> sounds like it
#441 [02:42] <EnjoiJM> k
#442 [02:43] <EnjoiJM> and i download JRE nor JDK?
#443 [02:43] <DopeGhoti> correct
#444 [02:43] <EnjoiJM> k
#445 [02:43] <kirbywarp> they don't conflict though, they're just two parts that serve different purposes
#446 [02:43] <EnjoiJM> ok :o
#447 [02:44] <kirbywarp> that was something that confused me when I first started programming java
#448 [02:44] <EnjoiJM> how do i know if this will work for chrome and not safari or internet explorer or somethin :o
#449 [02:44] <DopeGhoti> all three use the same Java engine
#450 [02:45] <EnjoiJM> ok
#451 [02:45] <EnjoiJM> there should be a link for this download on the site :o
#452 [02:45] <EnjoiJM> actually probably not..
#453 [02:45] <DopeGhoti> isn't 'Java' clickable?
#454 [02:45] <EnjoiJM> oh i already downloaded that tho
#455 [02:45] <EnjoiJM> nothing happened
#456 [02:46] <EnjoiJM> .......
#457 [02:46] <DopeGhoti> 'nothing'?
#458 [02:46] <kirbywarp> you downloaded the file, did you execute what you downloaded?
#459 [02:46] <EnjoiJM> ya
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#461 [02:47] <EnjoiJM> it installed....again and again and everytime i did it nothing happened
#462 [02:47] <EnjoiJM> ok now i will go try again
#463 [02:47] <DopeGhoti> define "nothing"
#464 [02:47] <DopeGhoti> no one ever means what they say when they say "nothing happens".
#465 [02:47] <EnjoiJM> i clicked the link, then clicked the download button, and it saved to my computer. then i would run it and it would install
#466 [02:48] <EnjoiJM> and i still cant run in browser
#467 [02:48] <kirbywarp> try googling "chrome java plugin" and see if you can download it separately?
#468 [02:48] <kirbywarp> what os are you running?
#469 [02:48] <EnjoiJM> os?
#470 [02:48] <DopeGhoti> (I"m guessing Windows)
#471 [02:48] <lemon-rev> operating system
#472 [02:48] <kirbywarp> mac, windows, linux?
#473 [02:48] <EnjoiJM> lolyes windows
#474 [02:49] * DopeGhoti lives for the day someone in here answers that question with 'Haiku'
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#475 [02:49] <EnjoiJM> ok i installed what you guys told me to install and it still isnt running
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#477 [02:50] <kirbywarp> did you restart the browser after you installed java?
#478 [02:50] <EnjoiJM> >.>
#479 [02:50] <EnjoiJM> nuu
#480 [02:50] <kirbywarp> just double checking
#481 [02:51] <EnjoiJM> lol im not good with computers so much >.>
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#483 [02:51] <kirbywarp> meh, everyone starts somewhere :)
#484 [02:51] <lemon-rev> best u be learning then :P
#485 [02:51] <lemon-rev> yup
#486 [02:52] <kirbywarp> how'd it go?
#487 [02:52] <EnjoiJM> ya my browsers froze and told me the plugin was unresponsive
#488 [02:52] <kirbywarp> yikes..
#489 [02:52] <DopeGhoti> ...did you close the browser when installing Java?
#490 [02:53] <DopeGhoti> The installer kinda tells you to do so IIRC
#491 [02:53] <Solvius> If ya find a monster spawn block can ya break it ?
#492 [02:53] <DopeGhoti> Solvius: yes
#493 [02:53] <Solvius> ok
#494 [02:53] <EnjoiJM> o.o
#495 [02:53] <EnjoiJM> fak
#496 [02:53] <EnjoiJM> gotta reinstall
#497 [02:53] <EnjoiJM> D:
#498 [02:53] <EnjoiJM> agin
#499 [02:53] <kirbywarp> hmm.. Did chrome freeze when you tried to start it again, or when you tried to close it?
#500 [02:54] <EnjoiJM> it froze when i clicked 'in-browser-
#501 [02:54] <DopeGhoti> how much RAM has your computer got?
#502 [02:54] <kirbywarp> mk, then probably reinstalling would be good.
#503 [02:55] <EnjoiJM> idk how much it has left :o
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#505 [02:56] <EnjoiJM> thanks for helping btw :o
#506 [02:56] <kirbywarp> you should be able to see how much total you have by right clicking "My Computer" and selecting "Properties"
#507 [02:56] <EnjoiJM> k
#508 [02:56] <kirbywarp> under one of the tabs it lists the hardware of your computer, and it should list total RAM
#509 [02:57] <EnjoiJM> "Memory (RAM) 4 gb
#510 [02:57] <EnjoiJM> so not as much left as i thought lol
#511 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> okay, good
#512 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> no, 4 GB is fine
#513 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> (you may be thinking of hard drive space)
#514 [02:57] <EnjoiJM> idk :o
#515 [02:57] <kirbywarp> well, as long as you aren't running a bunch of programs, 4GB is fine
#516 [02:58] <kirbywarp> Its as much as you can use if you don't have a 64bit computer, actually
#517 [02:58] <EnjoiJM> -closes startup programs-
#518 [02:58] <EnjoiJM> installing takes a while >.>
#519 [02:59] <kirbywarp> mmhm
#520 [02:59] <kirbywarp> btw, are you installing JDK or JRE?
#521 [02:59] <EnjoiJM> JRE
#522 [02:59] <kirbywarp> ok
#523 [03:00] <EnjoiJM> same problem again
#524 [03:00] <kirbywarp> JDK would install a whole bunch of source files as well, which could explain a really long install time..
#525 [03:01] <EnjoiJM> :(
#526 [03:02] <kirbywarp> actually, try going to http://javatester.org/version.html, to see if it crashes on a smaller java app
#527 [03:03] <kirbywarp> if it doesn't, then it might be a memory problem, but if it does, something's wrong with the plugin itself
#528 [03:05] <EnjoiJM> lol i try to open site and it froze for a second before it loaded
#529 [03:05] <EnjoiJM> awesome
#530 [03:06] <kirbywarp> which worked? the tester or minecraft?
#531 [03:06] <EnjoiJM> idk. i opened site you just showed
#532 [03:06] <EnjoiJM> thats it
#533 [03:06] <kirbywarp> ah, ok
#534 [03:07] <kirbywarp> I'm probably at my limit for help sadly..
#535 [03:07] <EnjoiJM> lol ok
#536 [03:07] <EnjoiJM> i should probably get to bed anyways
#537 [03:07] <EnjoiJM> thanks for all the help anyways
#538 [03:07] <EnjoiJM> thanks, nite
#539 [03:07] <kirbywarp> well, here's hoping you get it fixed
#540 [03:14] <aetherian> the comedy hath ended
#541 [03:14] <aetherian> good night
#542 [03:14] <aetherian> OH SH- not good night, goodbye
#543 [03:14] <aetherian> forgot my history
#544 [03:15] <fogWork> ;P
#545 [03:15] <kirbywarp> hmm, I'd suggest good morrow, but I think that's actually a greeting...
#546 [03:15] <aetherian> it is
#547 [03:15] <aetherian> !time kirbywarp
#548 [03:15] <aetherian> oops
#549 [03:15] <aetherian> /time not !time
#550 [03:15] * fogWork looks at the time
#550 [03:15] <aetherian> too late for me
#551 [03:15] <fogWork> About time to get spammed by newsletters
#552 [03:16] <aetherian> !ping
#553 [03:16] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.3 Seconds.
#554 [03:16] <kirbywarp> sounds... enjoyable..
#555 [03:16] <aetherian> ooh flat num
#556 [03:16] <fogWork> !ping
#557 [03:16] <kirbywarp> ?
#558 [03:16] <GreyBot> fogWork Your Ping time was 3.215 Seconds.
#559 [03:16] <kirbywarp> !ping
#560 [03:16] <GreyBot> kirbywarp Your Ping time was 2.954 Seconds.
#561 [03:16] <fogWork> Nice :P
#562 [03:16] <aetherian> haha
#563 [03:16] <aetherian> nice ping...
#564 [03:16] <kirbywarp> wow
#565 [03:16] * fogWork uses the company backup connection for various reasons
#565 [03:17] <Solvius> damn I need at least 5 arrow for a zombie, and they come really easy :(
#566 [03:18] <Solvius> !ping
#567 [03:18] <GreyBot> Solvius Your Ping time was 0.501 Seconds.
#568 [03:18] <kirbywarp> hm, do all the hostile mobs have the same health?
#569 [03:18] <kirbywarp> I recall five arrows needed for creepers too
#570 [03:19] <Solvius> I have no idea, what we need are end bosses :D
#571 [03:19] <kirbywarp> but... but.. but.. there is no end!
#572 [03:19] <Solvius> no end? what?
#573 [03:20] <Solvius> then I quit, I want to win
#574 [03:20] <kirbywarp> to... minecraft?
#575 [03:20] <Solvius> :)
#576 [03:20] <kirbywarp> just because there is no end, doesn't mean you cannot win. [/sage]
#577 [03:20] <aetherian> failsage
#578 [03:21] <Solvius> then I suppose there is no price to ?
#579 [03:21] <aetherian> there have been some people that have one minecraft
#580 [03:21] <aetherian> one of them
#581 [03:21] <Solvius> huh ?
#582 [03:21] <aetherian> was that guy who made the ALU and the CPU
#583 [03:21] <aetherian> he won the game
#584 [03:21] <aetherian> and the internet
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#586 [03:21] <Solvius> he mined everything ?
#587 [03:21] <aetherian> who cares?
#588 [03:22] <Solvius> well I do :)
#589 [03:22] <aetherian> he made a damned computer in his computer in his minecraft
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#591 [03:22] <Solvius> yeah, I saw that, that was great!!!
#592 [03:22] <kirbywarp> yeah, that was freaking awesome
#593 [03:22] <aetherian> knight
#594 [03:22] <Solvius> oh would I grief that when I could find it lol
#595 [03:22] <aetherian> as in
#596 [03:22] <aetherian> solvius:you bi-
#597 [03:23] <Solvius> just kidding I am not a griefer
#598 [03:23] * aetherian is away: SHOOT STRAIGHT YA BASTARDS, DON'T MAKE A MESS OF IT!
#598 [03:23] <Solvius> see ya
#599 [03:23] <kirbywarp> seeya
#600 [03:23] <aetherian> or will you
#601 [03:23] <Solvius> who knows :)
#602 [03:23] <aetherian> doo
#603 [03:23] <kirbywarp> oh I will, don't you worry about that..
#604 [03:23] <aetherian> dammit man
#605 [03:23] <aetherian> you messed me up
#606 [03:23] <kirbywarp> <doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo>
#607 [03:24] <aetherian> nonono
#608 [03:24] <aetherian> stfu
#609 [03:24] <aetherian> doo
#610 [03:24] <kirbywarp> D:
#611 [03:24] <aetherian> argh
#612 [03:24] <kirbywarp> :P
#613 [03:24] <aetherian> *()^
#614 [03:24] <kirbywarp> ok, continue
#615 [03:24] <aetherian> doo
#616 [03:24] <aetherian> doo doo
#617 [03:24] <aetherian> doo
#618 [03:24] <aetherian> I'll bet rod serling's around here somewhere
#619 [03:24] <kirbywarp> ooh
#620 [03:24] <kirbywarp> ooh ooh
#621 [03:24] <kirbywarp> ooh
#622 [03:24] <aetherian> fail?
#623 [03:25] <kirbywarp> nope, rythmic variation
#624 [03:25] <aetherian> it was twilight zone thing
#625 [03:25] <aetherian> what, like rap?
#626 [03:25] <aetherian> kbai
#627 [03:25] <kirbywarp> sya
#628 [03:25] <aetherian> *cya
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#631 [03:25] <kirbywarp> nope
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#633 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> Oooo.. music blocks
#634 [03:46] <kirbywarp> ?
#635 [03:46] <kirbywarp> how?
#636 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> Notch is going to implement music blocks
#637 [03:46] <kirbywarp> oh, I thought it was already added.. oh well
#638 [03:46] <kirbywarp> bring on the large scale pianos. :P
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#640 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/notch/status/22421264148725760
#641 [03:47] <Jiggler> http://i.imgur.com/5sJ9D.png
#642 [03:47] <Jiggler> so how do i fix
#643 [03:47] <Jiggler> does it on my desktop to and its running xp
#644 [03:47] <Jiggler> and i just installed latest java
#645 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that really does give a whole lot of information..
#646 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> doesn't*
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#648 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> Um. Completely uninstall java, and install it again?
#649 [03:48] <Jiggler> k ill try
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#651 [03:51] <kirbywarp> was there some new, rare feature recently added?
#652 [03:52] <GreyVulpine> last update added a deadmau-unique skin
#653 [03:52] <kirbywarp> ?
#654 [03:52] <GreyVulpine> A skin that only deadmau5 can use.
#655 [03:52] <kirbywarp> ah
#656 [03:52] <Jiggler> i think thats gay
#657 [03:53] <Jiggler> and i thought it was only on his server
#658 [03:53] * GreyVulpine nods
#658 [03:53] <kirbywarp> how does that work? does the server check skins pixel by pixel?
#659 [03:53] <GreyVulpine> No, was server specific, and only on his account
#660 [03:54] <kirbywarp> ... eh, nevermind.
#661 [03:54] <kirbywarp> I was thinking you could just copy the picture, but was there something else like a cape?
#662 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#663 [03:55] <kirbywarp> ah, I see
#664 [03:55] <lemon-rev> greyvulpine do you know what the train sound in minecraft means or should mean ?
#665 [03:55] <GreyVulpine> train sound?
#666 [03:56] <lemon-rev> yea kinda like a train going past
#667 [03:56] <kirbywarp> whoosh or whistle?
#668 [03:56] <lemon-rev> if you have music turned off
#669 [03:56] <lemon-rev> hm
#670 [03:56] <genshou> lemon-rev, does it happen when you're underground or near a cave?
#671 [03:56] <lemon-rev> more like the sound you get on a locomotive as its whisle
#672 [03:56] <Jiggler> UGH
#673 [03:56] <Jiggler> my vps is pissing me off
#674 [03:56] <lemon-rev> im in underground
#675 [03:56] <genshou> One of the creepy ambient cave sounds is somewhat like a train whistle
#676 [03:56] <Z4kku> There are screw-ups...
#677 [03:56] <Z4kku> http://sadpanda.us/images/333875-FMD6JDL.png
#678 [03:56] <lemon-rev> and im near nothing specal
#679 [03:56] <Z4kku> ... and then there's Minecraft.
#680 [03:56] <genshou> It doesn't mean anything except that you're in or near a cave
#681 [03:57] <Jiggler> the black?
#682 [03:57] <lemon-rev> hm, if that was the case i would have it going off every 5 mins
#683 [03:57] <lemon-rev> lol
#684 [03:57] <genshou> Z4kku, "and then there's creepers" FTFY
#685 [03:57] <genshou> :P
#686 [03:57] <Jiggler> also F2 screens shots for you
#687 [03:57] <lemon-rev> jiggler thats lagg
#688 [03:57] <Jiggler> o
#689 [03:57] <lemon-rev> your world hasnt yet fully loaded up
#690 [03:57] <Z4kku> No, it was fully loaded.
#691 [03:57] <Jiggler> never knew that
#692 [03:57] <genshou> Z4kku, try disconnecting and reconnecting
#693 [03:58] <Z4kku> I know, I've been doing that all day.
#694 [03:58] <genshou> ah
#695 [03:58] <genshou> sux though, for sure ;<
#696 [03:58] <Z4kku> I thought I would share that since I am logging out every two minutes.
#697 [03:58] <genshou> but you know what you can do, Z?
#698 [03:58] <Z4kku> ?
#699 [03:58] <guacamole> z4kku, thats truly cool that is
#700 [03:58] <genshou> Use those opportunities to find diamond and safe paths straight down to it.
#701 [03:58] <genshou> :D
#702 [03:58] <guacamole> love it
#703 [03:59] <Z4kku> I know, right? :P
#704 [03:59] <Z4kku> I do that sometimes
#705 [03:59] <guacamole> i second that idea
#706 [03:59] <genshou> My friends and I use a person with missing chunks to guide the others toward resources via straight-down digging
#707 [03:59] <genshou> :)
#708 [03:59] <genshou> Might as well turn bugs around to your advantage
#709 [04:00] <Z4kku> ^ I do that too. Heh
#710 [04:00] <lemon-rev> true
#711 [04:00] <Z4kku> Am I the only one whose client crashes 50+ times a day?
#712 [04:00] <Z4kku> (That not an exaggeration.)
#713 [04:01] <genshou> Z4kku, it only happens to me in smp, but it's about that frequent =_=
#714 [04:01] <Z4kku> I only play multiplayer, really.
#715 [04:01] <Z4kku> I don't see the point in having an infinite world to yourself.
#716 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> Peace and quiet?
#717 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> Security from griefing
#718 [04:02] <fogWork> Then Herobrine comes!
#719 [04:02] <kirbywarp> hmm. my inventory doesn't seem to want to close...
#720 [04:03] <kirbywarp> unless I unfocus and refocus the window
#721 [04:03] <lemon-rev> press esc to get out of inventory
#722 [04:03] <kirbywarp> yeah, I know
#723 [04:03] <genshou> kirbywarp, are you switching between fullscreen and windowed frequently?
#724 [04:03] <lemon-rev> u getting lag issues now as well lol
#725 [04:03] <lemon-rev> hm
#726 [04:04] <kirbywarp> genshou: no
#727 [04:04] <kirbywarp> It may just be my wm, I'll let you guys know if it happens again
#728 [04:05] <Z4kku> Is there a list of unsupported video cards?
#729 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> Anything that doesn't support OpenGL 1.4 or above
#730 [04:06] <Z4kku> I have an integrated card that works really well with more graphic heavy games, but I'm still getting 6FPS after updating my drivers.
#731 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> Minimum might be OpenGL 1.3.
#732 [04:07] <kirbywarp> if you have linux, you might want to try replacing some of the packages under .minecraft/bin/natives
#733 [04:07] <Z4kku> I am using Windows
#734 [04:07] <kirbywarp> that seems to have given me a boost up to around 15-16 fps
#735 [04:07] <Z4kku> Unfortunately.
#736 [04:07] <kirbywarp> ah well
#737 [04:08] <kirbywarp> I think I hit a max of around 25 fps, including a lighting mod
#738 [04:08] <kirbywarp> much better than before I tried replacing some of the prepackaged stuff
#739 [04:11] <Jiggler> GreyVulpine uninstalling java did not work and reinstallin it
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#741 [04:17] <aetherian> ugh
#742 [04:17] <aetherian> I can't sleep
#743 [04:17] <aetherian> !ping
#744 [04:17] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.391 Seconds.
#745 [04:17] <aetherian> odd, must be leggin
#746 [04:19] <Jiggler> let me see
#747 [04:19] <Jiggler> A:01:19:30: [aetherian PING reply]: 0secs
#748 [04:20] <aetherian> I have a good ping then
#749 [04:20] <aetherian> :)
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#755 [04:30] <kirbywarp> I don't suppose there will be support to stop on a ladder any time soon, will there?
#756 [04:30] <iPischto> Why would you want this
#757 [04:31] <kirbywarp> easier building
#758 [04:31] <kirbywarp> and destroying
#759 [04:31] <kirbywarp> as it is you need to sorta vibrate up and down, hoping your cursor doesn't leave the block
#760 [04:32] <iPischto> Oh, i see. Well nothing said yet about that
#761 [04:32] <iPischto> Suggest
#762 [04:32] <iPischto> It on notch's twitter ;)
#763 [04:32] <kirbywarp> m
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#765 [04:35] <iPischto> He should change the whole system. If you are on a ladder, pressing w will make you go up, s down. Pushing nothing well let you stay on the current ladder
#766 [04:36] <kirbywarp> I actually kinda like it, it means that moving into the ladder makes you go up, meaning you can look around freely, and jump off at any time
#767 [04:36] <kirbywarp> and going down is easier
#768 [04:36] <kirbywarp> its just that rare time when I want to replace ladders, or create a dock to jump on to, or other stuff, that I wish you could stop
#769 [04:37] <iPischto> ye, like hl series/counter strike :p
#770 [04:37] <Z4kku> For me, all I have to do, is walk into my mine and step onto the ladder until I am at the desired level.
#771 [04:37] <kirbywarp> I think the point is that if you use w to go up, how to you move off of the ladder?
#772 [04:38] <kirbywarp> your character doesn't lock on to the ladder like in other games
#773 [04:38] <iPischto> Press space
#774 [04:38] <kirbywarp> its more like going up a waterfall
#775 [04:38] <Z4kku> I end up trying to push to the side until it lets me off.
#776 [04:39] <Z4kku> I tried to attack a ghost with a shovel and it disappeared for like five minutes.
#777 [04:39] <Z4kku> lol?
#778 [04:39] <Z4kku> (The shovel, that is.)
#779 [04:39] <iPischto> Uh ?
#780 [04:39] <iPischto> Aah :p
#781 [04:39] <kirbywarp> ... it came back?!?
#782 [04:40] <iPischto> Well i have no experience with the nether, only play SMP
#783 [04:41] <Z4kku> Yes
#784 [04:44] <kirbywarp> urgh... how do you stop mobs from spawning on top of above-ground tree farms?
#785 [04:44] <iPischto> Torches I guess
#786 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the mob
#787 [04:45] <Z4kku> I've tried that too... they still spawn.
#788 [04:45] <kirbywarp> hostiles
#789 [04:46] <kirbywarp> seems like such a silly problem too
#790 [04:50] <kirbywarp> ah well, I think I'm done for today...
#791 [04:50] <kirbywarp> thanks for the help, if you're still here, and good night to all
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#793 [04:52] <aetherian> night, for reals
#794 [04:52] * aetherian is away: I'll do what I want to anyway
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#795 [04:55] <tsyde> hello
#796 [04:55] <iPischto> Hi
#797 [04:56] <tsyde> I need some assistance
#798 [04:56] <iPischto> Tell us
#799 [04:56] <tsyde> Okay I own a SMP but it isnt public atm
#800 [04:56] <tsyde> and I NEED to place signs for obvious reasons
#801 [04:57] <tsyde> but whenever I try and place a sign instead of the words I say
#802 [04:57] <tsyde> it says "!?"
#803 [04:57] <tsyde> it says*
#804 [04:57] <tsyde> any idea?
#805 [04:58] <Solvius> I think we need beer in the game
#806 [04:58] <iPischto> Really no idea Oo
#807 [04:59] <iPischto> Sorry
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#811 [05:00] <tsyde> where should I go for some help?
#812 [05:02] <Jiggler> not here
#813 [05:02] <Jiggler> lol
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#815 [05:13] <Z4kku> I've died by glitches and lost so many items to glitches so far... =\
#816 [05:14] <Z4kku> Just let me write my own server. xD
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#818 [05:34] <Solvius> I lost since I played, like 5 days or so, also many things, I died, got back, lost me an iron sword and some flint
#819 [05:36] <Z4kku> I lost two diamond picks, 32 Iron, 120 Red Stone, 25 Gold, and apparently 300~ cobblestone...
#820 [05:36] <Z4kku> Losing a diamond pick is not cool. -_-
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#823 [05:41] <dragontech90> Console [Alive]: hey
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#825 [05:44] <william> hey
#826 [05:44] <william> GreyVulpine
#827 [05:44] <william> i need ju
#828 [05:44] <dragontech90> Console [Alive]: hey
#829 [05:45] <dragontech90> Console [Alive]: greyvulpine
#830 [05:45] <dragontech90> Console [Alive]: dude
#831 [05:45] <dragontech90> Console [Alive]: need ur help
#832 [05:45] <dragontech90> Console [Alive]: any one home
#833 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> ...
#834 [05:46] <dragontech90> Console [Alive]: its aline
#835 [05:46] <dragontech90> Console [Alive]: i got MClawl
#836 [05:46] <dragontech90> Console [Alive]: and i set it like all the youtube vidios say
#837 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> Please don't use this channel to forward IRC from your server.
#838 [05:46] <william> ok
#839 [05:46] <william> >.>
#840 [05:46] <william> i wont
#841 [05:47] <william> ill take it off
#842 [05:47] <william> any who its not working
#843 [05:47] <william> do i tuen off the normal server
#844 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> What doesn't work
#845 [05:48] <william> the one minecraft said to do
#846 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me a link
#847 [05:48] <william> i did MClawl
#848 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> or tell me what you did
#849 [05:48] <william> i set it up
#850 [05:48] <william> like i was told mysqual
#851 [05:49] <william> or do you still need a link?
#852 [05:50] <william> http://www.mclawl.tk/
#853 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> I'm aware of what mclawl is
#854 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> I'm not fully understanding what your problem really is
#855 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> Or how you set it up
#856 [05:52] <william> ok my problem is i set it up puting in the right info the right sver name the right paswords
#857 [05:53] <william> and all that stuff
#858 [05:53] <william> 0.o
#859 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Let me try again. What is the problem. Why isn't it working? Is it MySQL? Is it MCLawl?
#860 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Is it the classic server?
#861 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Can you connect?
#862 [05:54] <william> yes
#863 [05:55] <william> but i did the set up right
#864 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Was that a "yes" to you can connect?
#865 [05:55] <william> but it did not change any of teh camands
#866 [05:55] <william> yes i can
#867 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Okay.
#868 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> So what's the problem?
#869 [05:55] <william> the problem it ITS NOT WORKING
#870 [05:55] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#870 [05:55] <william> it said /lava for laava
#871 [05:56] <william> and its not doing lava
#872 [05:56] <william> its saying un known camand
#873 [05:56] <william> i do /water and it dont
#874 [05:56] <william> ok so what now
#875 [05:56] <william> do you understand me
#876 [05:57] <william> what im saying its not working
#877 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> /lava and /water aren't mclawl commands
#878 [05:57] <william> they have the block and the promotions
#879 [05:58] <william> they set the lvls for ranks to use
#880 [05:58] <william> i asked a guy that own his own and he sai d get MClawl
#881 [05:58] <william> and i ask that has the mods he said yes
#882 [05:58] <william> i looked into it and it works
#883 [05:59] <william> cubex
#884 [05:59] <william> works
#885 [05:59] <william> last time u said
#886 [05:59] <william> mods the chat dont know how to work
#887 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> mods aren't officially supported here
#888 [05:59] <william> and if so how come u know MClawl dont have or do
#889 [05:59] <william> wom has cheets
#890 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Because I've helped set up MClawl before
#891 [06:00] <william> but u dint say u can get kicked from ur server for it
#892 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> I didn't say that
#893 [06:00] <william> u right and i got kicked
#894 [06:00] <william> for high jumping
#895 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#896 [06:01] <william> i over jumped in hight
#897 [06:01] <william> and it said dont cheat
#898 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> If a server's admin kicked you, that's their perogative, their rules.
#899 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> We have nothing to do with how admins run their servers here
#900 [06:03] <william> true but you culd atlest worn u can get in to truble if you alow hacks
#901 [06:03] <william> >.>
#902 [06:03] <genshou> ......
#903 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Uh.
#904 [06:03] <william> and when i ask for help or some one else it take 1 hr for help to respond
#905 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> We don't live 24/7 on here, everybody here who helps, volunteers their time.
#906 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> We don't get paid.
#907 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, like I said before, /lava and /water aren't mclawl commands
#908 [06:05] <william> >.>
#909 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/MCLawl/Commands
#910 [06:05] <william> then tell me what has it
#911 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea what other custom software that server you were on, had.
#912 [06:06] <william> it was more than just one server that had it
#913 [06:06] <william> i was on 7 of them
#914 [06:06] <william> and more has it
#915 [06:06] <william> garented
#916 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> But if you checked that link, lava and water aren't listed
#917 [06:06] <william> >.>
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#925 [07:17] <panade> hi
#926 [07:17] <panade> someone up there?
#927 [07:19] <iPischto> Yes
#928 [07:20] <panade> could u help me out fast
#929 [07:20] <panade> if the server just hang up 4 me or if its a general problem with my classic server?
#930 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> URL?
#931 [07:21] <panade> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=8968ecc11ea38db38a519abcf876f93e
#932 [07:21] <panade> 4 me it crashes java
#933 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, looks like it crashed my browser as well
#934 [07:22] <panade> crap -.-
#935 [07:23] <panade> but thx 4 testing
#936 [07:25] <panade> i search in google since 2 days but cant find a reason... so u know if it is maybe client based or server based? just out of knowledge
#937 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, have no idea. Are you running a vanilla server? No mods?
#938 [07:26] <panade> no running it on a custom so i know this is not 4 customs...
#939 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> Still, it's probably the custom server causing problems
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#948 [08:10] <MuTTe> Why cant i go in to the nether??
#949 [08:10] <MuTTe> If i change nether true to on my server, i start in nether
#950 [08:10] <MuTTe> but i want to come there trough portal
#951 [08:11] <MuTTe> but my portal doesnt work :S
#952 [08:11] <MuTTe> someone got a clue?
#953 [08:11] <peru> its not a bug, its a feature
#954 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> portals don't work in the nether
#955 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> by setting hell-world to true, you're setting your world to be the nether
#956 [08:11] <MuTTe> ye
#957 [08:11] <MuTTe> so i cant come to hell by portal`?
#958 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> The nether and the overworld can't exist at the same time in SMP currently
#959 [08:12] <MuTTe> ah ok
#960 [08:12] <MuTTe> SMP stands for?
#961 [08:12] <MuTTe> single?
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#963 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> survivial multiplayer
#964 [08:12] <MuTTe> aah :P
#965 [08:12] <MuTTe> okey
#966 [08:12] <MuTTe> thats why
#967 [08:12] <MuTTe> i manage come in singleplayer
#968 [08:12] <anton> Hey anyone here seen avatar?
#969 [08:12] <anton> Not the last airbender
#970 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> Oh, single player
#971 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> You gotta stand inside the portal for a few seconds
#972 [08:13] <MuTTe> ye :P
#973 [08:13] <MuTTe> thx for info
#974 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't work in SMP
#975 [08:13] <MuTTe> ok =))
#976 [08:13] <anton> mutte, i made floating waterfalls
#977 [08:13] <MuTTe> =O
#978 [08:13] <anton> just like in there :P
#979 [08:13] <MuTTe> ;D
#980 [08:13] <MuTTe> n1
#981 [08:13] <anton> and cieling made of glass and lava above it
#982 [08:13] <anton> best house ever
#983 [08:13] <MuTTe> =)
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#985 [08:17] <classicsurfer> hello how can i get a refund, im sorry i have to but the game doesnt run as smooth on my computer as i thought
#986 [08:18] <mbentley> i'd suggest contacting payment@mojang.com
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#989 [08:42] <Lozurite> Hello! I need some assistance when it comes to auto-saving on a linux server-platform, could anyone share their knowledge? :-)
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#991 [08:44] <mbentley> Lozurite: like what do you mean exactly?
#992 [08:44] <Lozurite> I'm in need of a auto-save script
#993 [08:44] <Lozurite> an*
#994 [08:44] <mbentley> by auto-save, do you mean more like backup?
#995 [08:45] <mbentley> as long as 'save-on' is on, it does auto-save
#996 [08:45] <acegiak> can anyone help me work out why my smp map is generating weirdly? you can see it on the render: http://dobbybot.ath.cx:8080/minecraft/render
#997 [08:46] <Lozurite> where can I find 'save-on'? to check if it's enables
#998 [08:46] <Lozurite> enabled*
#999 [08:46] <mbentley> acegiak: you might want to try to delete all of the files in the 'tiles' directory and regenerate
#1000 [08:47] <mbentley> Lozurite: it is on by default
#1001 [08:47] <Lozurite> how often does it auto-save?
#1002 [08:48] <mbentley> i am not exactly sure what determines the save interval
#1003 [08:48] <acegiak> I... don't see any such directory?
#1004 [08:48] <mbentley> but anyway, how are you running your server?
#1005 [08:48] <mbentley> acegiak: http://dobbybot.ath.cx:8080/minecraft/render/tiles/
#1006 [08:49] <mbentley> in the output of the gmaps rendering
#1007 [08:49] <acegiak> mbentley, it's like that in-game
#1008 [08:49] <mbentley> oh in game
#1009 [08:49] <acegiak> it's like all the chunks have been randomly rotated
#1010 [08:49] <mbentley> that, i am not sure of.
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#1012 [08:50] <zani> could anybody help me load a .mclevel file? I'd like to try the zomg mod for maps but I don't know what to do
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#1014 [08:51] <barrycarlyon> We don't support mods here zani best option anyway is to ask the author of the mod.
#1015 [08:51] <zani> oh ok then
#1016 [08:53] <mbentley> Lozurite: you can force it to save by using 'save-all' on the console
#1017 [08:53] <mbentley> if you are running your server on a screen session, you can always send a command to the session
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#1021 [09:06] <Solvius> how does that juke box work ?
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#1023 [09:08] <Solvius> ok I know that it plays discs, that can be found, or so :)
#1024 [09:08] <Solvius> = afk
#1025 [09:18] <acegiak> heads up everyone, using openjdk instead of sun java gives you weird map generation with odd rotated chunks
#1026 [09:19] <mbentley> ah
#1027 [09:19] <mbentley> good to know
#1028 [09:20] <acegiak> aw man spoke too soon
#1029 [09:20] <acegiak> wtf
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#1031 [09:21] <acegiak> still getting it even after switching
#1032 [09:21] <mbentley> well it isn't going to regenerate the messed up section
#1033 [09:21] <acegiak> no I'm generating a new map each time
#1034 [09:21] <acegiak> not that silly :P
#1035 [09:21] <mbentley> ah
#1036 [09:21] <mbentley> ok :)
#1037 [09:21] <acegiak> I'll keep experimenting
#1038 [09:22] <mbentley> totally positive you switched from openjdk?
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#1053 [10:47] <mib_priwl3> Hello
#1054 [10:47] <mib_priwl3> Anyone here?
#1055 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1056 [10:47] <mib_priwl3> umm can you help me with SMP server?
#1057 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
#1058 [10:48] <mib_priwl3> i ran the exe to host my own server
#1059 [10:48] <mib_priwl3> where is the server folder?
#1060 [10:48] <mib_priwl3> i wanna turn monsters off
#1061 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> Whereever you had the exe
#1062 [10:48] <mib_priwl3> so how can i turn them off?
#1063 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> Look in the folder where you have the exe
#1064 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> There should be a server.properties file
#1065 [10:48] <mib_priwl3> hmm
#1066 [10:49] <mib_priwl3> cant find the folder :S
#1067 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> Where did you put the exe?
#1068 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> How did you run it?
#1069 [10:49] <mib_priwl3> my Documents/Downloads
#1070 [10:49] <mib_priwl3> just ran it
#1071 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> Well, there you go then
#1072 [10:49] <mib_priwl3> its not there
#1073 [10:49] <mib_priwl3> :O
#1074 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> It should've created more files when you ran it there
#1075 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> Look again
#1076 [10:49] <mbentley> f5
#1077 [10:50] <mib_priwl3> umm nope :S
#1078 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> Try mbentley's suggestion, press f5 to refresh that folder
#1079 [10:50] <mib_priwl3> did that
#1080 [10:50] <mbentley> did you already run the server .exe ?
#1081 [10:50] <mib_priwl3> yes
#1082 [10:50] <mib_priwl3> its open atm
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#1084 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps some strange folder permission, not letting the server create files there?
#1085 [10:51] <mbentley> very strange as it will always create the files in the current directory the exe is in
#1086 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Try moving the .exe in its own folder
#1087 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Place it on your desktop or somewhere
#1088 [10:51] <mbentley> (might want to stop the server first)
#1089 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> That too
#1090 [10:52] <mib_priwl3> oki
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#1092 [10:53] <mib_priwl3> yeh its fixed
#1093 [10:53] <mib_priwl3> tho it made a new server :(
#1094 [10:53] <mib_priwl3> ohh well
#1095 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> Well, do you see the server.properties file now?
#1096 [10:53] <mbentley> if you really want your old map, you could search for 'world' to see if you can locate it
#1097 [10:54] <mbentley> as that is the name of the folder it puts the world files in
#1098 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1099 [10:54] <mib_priwl3> nah its ok, i was there for only like 5 mins
#1100 [10:54] <mbentley> cool :)
#1101 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> It should've created a /world folder in my Documents/Downloads
#1102 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> But bwah.
#1103 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> You can edit server.properties in a text editor of your choice.
#1104 [10:55] <mib_priwl3> spawn-monsters=false
#1105 [10:55] <mib_priwl3> like so?
#1106 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1107 [10:55] <mib_priwl3> Ahh
#1108 [10:55] <mib_priwl3> i see
#1109 [10:55] <mbentley> will always need a restart if the server is running to parse the changes
#1110 [10:55] <mib_priwl3> ok well thx
#1111 [10:56] <mib_priwl3> hope it works
#1112 [10:56] <mib_priwl3> Gonna play some MC with mah 6 year old bro :P
#1113 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Neat. Have fun.
#1114 [10:56] <mib_priwl3> thxx
#1115 [10:56] <mib_priwl3> :)
#1116 [10:56] <mib_priwl3> dude
#1117 [10:57] <mib_priwl3> do u have a MSN or something?
#1118 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Used to, don't use it anymore.
#1119 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> I'm always on here.
#1120 [10:57] <mib_priwl3> Ahh i see
#1121 [10:57] <mib_priwl3> Guess ill join here later
#1122 [10:57] <mib_priwl3> under the name GreenDawg
#1123 [10:58] <mib_priwl3> but bai bai, and thank you ! :)
#1124 [10:58] * GreyVulpine waves
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#1125 [11:05] <blenderfan95> Hello :) I have a question: On a new map i found a house, that I did not build. There were boxes, torches and so on, i dont know why. Does anyone know why this happened? Is this normal? - Sorry for spamming and my bad english
#1126 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> Strange.
#1127 [11:08] <blenderfan95> Yep. Did this happened to other persons here?
#1128 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Can't say I've heard of that happening, to anyone
#1129 [11:10] <mbentley> friends don't let friends play minecraft drunk?
#1130 [11:10] <mbentley> that's odd
#1131 [11:10] <mbentley> lol
#1132 [11:10] <blenderfan95> I found that on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=DE&v=xRAAqyfFuHU
#1133 [11:11] <blenderfan95> @mbentley: No one was on my laptop ;)
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#1135 [11:11] <mbentley> who knows... maybe notch tossed something in there all stealthy like
#1136 [11:11] <mbentley> is this on a single player map too?
#1137 [11:12] <blenderfan95> In Alpha Single Player
#1138 [11:12] <mbentley> crazy
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#1140 [11:15] <blenderfan95> Maybe Notch REALLY created all worlds by hand? :D
#1141 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> Hah, he doesn't
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#1143 [11:17] <Simen> Hi guys, a friend of mine have a problem when he started minecraft server. He gets: [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#1144 [11:17] <Simen> [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Address already in use: JVM_Bind
#1145 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> Simen - Did he mess with server.properties?
#1146 [11:17] <Simen> He have open the 25565 port
#1147 [11:17] <Simen> Hm, a moment
#1148 [11:17] <mbentley> sounds like a server is already running
#1149 [11:17] <mbentley> or he put in an incorrect ip
#1150 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> That, or he messed with server-ip
#1151 [11:18] <Simen> He messed with the server.properties :P
#1152 [11:18] <Simen> He got it working now
#1153 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> What was the problem?
#1154 [11:19] <Simen> [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#1155 [11:19] <Simen> <Simen> [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Address already in use: JVM_Bind
#1156 [11:19] <Simen> he got that
#1157 [11:20] <Simen> He tried the hey0 mod
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#1159 [11:28] <blenderfan95> A little different incident was in school: (No, not Minecraft ;) - We found a way to chat with the computers, so we did it. In this program, you can set the topic, and some time later, when i wanted to start a new topic, there was some text in the field, that we did not wrote. We found out that someone else wrote the text on his computer. Thats crazy 0o
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#1164 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Heyas TW
#1165 [11:43] <TrueWolves> Hia
#1166 [11:46] <DopeGhoti> Wanted in next week's update: fewer missing client-side chunks.
#1167 [11:47] <TrueWolves> It's very likely happening.
#1168 [11:47] <TrueWolves> I can ask about it though if you want.
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#1170 [11:49] <blenderfan95> A parachute, a Hot Air Balloon and a lamp powered by coal would be funny
#1171 [11:50] <blenderfan95> I miss chemical reactions :D
#1172 [11:50] <blenderfan95> There is TNT but there should be more
#1173 [11:51] <mbentley> DopeGhoti: you mean like >> http://www.mbentley.net/temp/minecraft/screen_shots/2010-12-18_render_fail.png
#1174 [11:52] <TrueWolves> Well, Potion crafting is being implimented.
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#1176 [11:53] <blenderfan95> :D
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#1178 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Can't wait for music blocks to roll out
#1179 [11:56] <feenyx> mbentley: a relog will fix it
#1180 [11:56] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: no, the errors I'm talking about render as though a big square chunk (hence, missing chunk. Also, it's exactly the size of a chunk) of the world appears to be dug straigth down. _Past_ adminium.
#1181 [11:56] <DopeGhoti> anyway, yeah, I'd like that fixed.
#1182 [11:57] <mbentley> ah
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#1184 [11:57] <mbentley> feenyx yeah, i just thought it was fun to look through the map :)
#1185 [11:57] <DopeGhoti> I have some screenshots, just not here at work.
#1186 [11:57] <puddin> hello
#1187 [11:57] <blenderfan95> @mbentley: I opened the world again: I can describe it: there is a house, with many torches, some part of the wall is out of diamond stones. There are minerails and redstone circuits.
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#1189 [11:59] <puddin> hey you fagits
#1190 [11:59] <puddin> lick me
#1191 [11:59] <Kealper> the hell?
#1192 [11:59] <puddin> hehe ban me please
#1193 [12:00] <Kealper> ninja'd
#1194 [12:00] <Kealper> lol
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#1196 [12:00] <TrueWolves> He'll return
#1197 [12:00] <TrueWolves> I'm going to watch like a hawk now.
#1198 [12:00] <Kealper> how'd he going to return? proxy?
#1199 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> the crap?
#1200 [12:01] <Kealper> how's*
#1201 [12:01] <TrueWolves> There are a number of ways, proxy, Tor+Mibbit...
#1202 [12:01] <Kealper> i call next ban then, i'd like to see if i got the ban mask set up right in irssi now lol
#1203 [12:01] <TrueWolves> People don't just ask for bans unless they are A: collecting a list of "I'm banned from here" like a fucking tard or B: testing out proxy ability.
#1204 [12:01] * TrueWolves nods
#1204 [12:01] <TrueWolves> As long as you do it in 3 minutes. :D
#1205 [12:02] <TrueWolves> ...
#1206 [12:02] <Kealper> got a alias set up so i can just do /kb nick lol
#1207 [12:02] <TrueWolves> or testing out dynamic IP
#1208 [12:02] <TrueWolves> FUCK I think he's in Minecraft
#1209 [12:02] <Kealper> O.o
#1210 [12:02] <TrueWolves> kaskull, a hunch at least.
#1211 [12:02] <PandaBear> True
#1212 [12:02] <PandaBear> I shall check
#1213 [12:03] <TrueWolves> Dynamic IP Mibbit connection random polite entrince, defently not garenteed but a possiblity.
#1214 [12:03] <TrueWolves> Thanks a ton Panda.
#1215 [12:03] <Kealper> i just found out that this new toaster oven makes awesome bread pizzas
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#1217 [12:03] <kaskull> Hi
#1218 [12:03] <TrueWolves> Hia
#1219 [12:03] <Kealper> hi
#1220 [12:03] <PandaBear> Nope
#1221 [12:04] <kaskull> I need some help / information please
#1222 [12:04] <PandaBear> Unless he changed his nickname
#1223 [12:04] <kaskull> who can hekp me :S
#1224 [12:04] <PandaBear> I'll see
#1225 [12:04] <kaskull> help^*
#1226 [12:04] <Kealper> ask, and thou shalt recieve
#1227 [12:04] <kaskull> Ok
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#1229 [12:04] <kaskull> first of all
#1230 [12:04] <TrueWolves> Thanks Panda.
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#1232 [12:04] <kaskull> i minecraft beta free?
#1233 [12:04] <PandaBear> Np, and no he isn't
#1234 [12:04] <PandaBear> Minecraft Beta is not no sorry
#1235 [12:04] <PandaBear> And the price has just gone up
#1236 [12:05] <PandaBear> Since it switched from Alpha to Beta
#1237 [12:05] <TrueWolves> People payed less with alpha do to them having to wait for most of the features.
#1238 [12:05] <PandaBear> If you got the game in Alpha, it is free though.
#1239 [12:05] <kaskull> and if i want to buy it
#1240 [12:05] <TrueWolves> People buying it in Beta still get a semi-reduced cost becuase it's still not finished.
#1241 [12:05] <kaskull> i have to buy alpha?
#1242 [12:05] <PandaBear> Alpha and Beta are the same thing
#1243 [12:05] <PandaBear> Really
#1244 [12:05] <PandaBear> Well
#1245 [12:06] <All4n> You cant buy Aplha anymoe
#1246 [12:06] <TrueWolves> Alpha became Beta.
#1247 [12:06] <All4n> it is beta now
#1248 [12:06] <PandaBear> They're developmental stages
#1249 [12:06] <TrueWolves> ^that
#1250 [12:06] <PandaBear> So Alpha becomes Beta when Minecraft is, more finished, you could say
#1251 [12:06] <TrueWolves> and Beta becomes the finished product when... well, finished.
#1252 [12:06] <kaskull> my question is that if i buy it when they upgrade or some thing like that, i'll have to buy it again?
#1253 [12:06] <kaskull> :S
#1254 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Mp
#1255 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> No
#1256 [12:06] <TrueWolves> Buying it at a earilier stage means you're paying less, but get all the stuff when it adventualy comes out.
#1257 [12:07] <PandaBear> Grey
#1258 [12:07] <PandaBear> Didn't they change it?
#1259 [12:07] <TrueWolves> You get everything up to the final release of the game.
#1260 [12:07] <TrueWolves> Panda, only for expansion packs.
#1261 [12:07] <PandaBear> Ah
#1262 [12:07] <All4n> No you do not have to buy the game again. Only expantion packs
#1263 [12:07] <kaskull> because i've tried this game and i like it :)
#1264 [12:07] <TrueWolves> Buying it now still gives you everything Minecraft will be as Minecraft.
#1265 [12:07] <All4n> kasskull, thst i understand ;-D
#1266 [12:08] <PandaBear> So people who brought it when it was in Alpha get everything new free, but people who buy it afterwards get everything but the expansion packs free
#1267 [12:08] <TrueWolves> and Knowing Notch quite well, he'll not skimp on the expansion packs or the main part of the game.
#1268 [12:08] <PandaBear> :P
#1269 [12:08] <blenderfan95> Good Evening :)
#1270 [12:08] <All4n> Hello
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#1272 [12:08] <kaskull> TrueWolves
#1273 [12:08] <kaskull> sorry but i don't speak english very well
#1274 [12:08] <TrueWolves> So we don't need to worry about it being some 10$ DLC that just adds a new color or something stupid, hell half the expansion packs he had ideas for are now infact part of the main game.
#1275 [12:09] <TrueWolves> Err, anything you need me to re-word?
#1276 [12:09] <All4n> You won't get the game any cheaper in future ;-)
#1277 [12:09] <kaskull> truwolves it means that if i buy now i'll have free all DLC?
#1278 [12:09] <TrueWolves> You'll have all the stuff up tell the game is released.
#1279 [12:10] <TrueWolves> But Expansions you'll need to pay for... what I said was Notch plans to put a lot of work in to the "DLC" so that they are really worth their price (unlike what a lot of developers do)
#1280 [12:10] <kaskull> ok
#1281 [12:10] <TrueWolves> And the main game will still be worked on for a year yet before finished.
#1282 [12:10] <kaskull> i have an other question
#1283 [12:10] <TrueWolves> Infact some of the stuff that was planned for DLC was added to the main game anyway.
#1284 [12:10] <kaskull> i have an other question that
#1285 [12:10] <TrueWolves> Ask away.
#1286 [12:11] <kaskull> one friend has a server
#1287 [12:11] <kaskull> and he uses ubuntu
#1288 [12:11] <kaskull> (linux)
#1289 [12:11] * TrueWolves knows ubuntu.
#1289 [12:11] <kaskull> xd
#1290 [12:11] * PandaBear doesn't at all, only Windows
#1290 [12:11] <PandaBear> Carry on.
#1291 [12:11] <kaskull> and i think that he download to do a server
#1292 [12:11] * Kealper is a noob at linux, and can only do simple things on it
#1292 [12:12] <kaskull> but he wants to put plugins and he doesn't know how :S
#1293 [12:12] * TrueWolves nods.
#1293 [12:12] <DopeGhoti> someone say the L word? :)
#1294 [12:12] <kaskull> because a friend told us how to do
#1295 [12:12] <DopeGhoti> (g'morning)
#1296 [12:12] <kaskull> but i think that is not the same in linux that in windows
#1297 [12:12] <Kealper> dope do you have that on highlight or something? lol
#1298 [12:12] <PandaBear> (good afternoon)
#1299 [12:12] <DopeGhoti> no, I just got to work :)
#1300 [12:13] <TrueWolves> We don't really supply support for plugins here, as they are all third party and not made by the game's creator.
#1301 [12:13] <TrueWolves> As far as I'm aware anyhow...
#1302 [12:13] <kaskull> :S
#1303 [12:13] <Kealper> true i still uphold that :P
#1304 [12:13] * TrueWolves has been gone for a while, does this channel support plugins now or no?
#1304 [12:13] <kaskull> so.... who can help me? :S
#1305 [12:13] <TrueWolves> Okay
#1306 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Officially no
#1307 [12:13] <TrueWolves> I wasn't sure if that was still supported or not.
#1308 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> But if you'd like to look it up on your own time
#1309 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> I've got nothing against it
#1310 [12:14] <TrueWolves> I think we just tell you where to look rather then help.
#1311 [12:14] <TrueWolves> That's what I did anyhow.
#1312 [12:14] <TrueWolves> Except I don't know where to send people anymore :S
#1313 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> hmod is dead
#1314 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> bukkit's still dev
#1315 [12:14] <DopeGhoti> TrueWolves: send them to lmgtfy.com ;)
#1316 [12:14] <DopeGhoti> (Hey0's mod is no longer in development? Huh.)
#1317 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> nope
#1318 [12:14] <TrueWolves> hmod died? Wow that was the only mod I even knew the name for.
#1319 [12:15] <Kealper> o.o
#1320 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> died a couple days ago
#1321 [12:15] * TrueWolves hardly plays the game anymore ._
#1321 [12:15] <TrueWolves> ._.
#1322 [12:15] <Kealper> guess that's why bukkit got so much hype
#1323 [12:15] <PandaBear> Didn't it die then come back to life earlier?
#1324 [12:15] <TrueWolves> Well According to DopeGhoti, go to lmgtfy.com kaskull.
#1325 [12:15] <Kealper> lmgtfy stands for Let Me Google That For You
#1326 [12:16] <TrueWolves> ...
#1327 [12:16] * TrueWolves FACEDESKS
#1327 [12:16] <kaskull> i know wich page is it ¬¬"
#1328 [12:16] <TrueWolves> I'm used to "www.justfuckinggoogleit.com"
#1329 [12:16] <kaskull> so here any one can't help me about plugins .S?
#1330 [12:16] <Kealper> http://tinyurl.com/6znzyp :P
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#1332 [12:16] <Kealper> lol @ justfuckinggoogleit
#1333 [12:16] <TrueWolves> Because plugins are third party, made by people and not supported by the games creators (yet)
#1334 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> kaskull - Frankly, there isn't a good source of plugins yet
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#1336 [12:17] <TrueWolves> made by people that are not the creators*
#1337 [12:17] <lunarblu> !download
#1338 [12:17] <lunarblu> !server
#1339 [12:17] <XtraRonnY> hey
#1340 [12:17] <XtraRonnY> i have some problems finding servers. can u help me?
#1341 [12:17] <Kealper> ello
#1342 [12:17] <nipper> http://www.wimp.com/elmobell/
#1343 [12:17] <PandaBear> Xtra
#1344 [12:17] <TrueWolves> Jeb of the staff I think said that Mod-support will be one of the last things added to the main game.
#1345 [12:17] <PandaBear> Howso?
#1346 [12:18] <PandaBear> Does the server list not appear on the wom client, by any chance?
#1347 [12:18] <Kealper> http://servers.minecraftforum.net if that still works
#1348 [12:18] * TrueWolves does not like the WoM client >.>
#1348 [12:18] <TrueWolves> #SMP
#1349 [12:18] <PandaBear> Or you mean SMP :P?
#1350 [12:18] <PandaBear> Neither do I True
#1351 [12:18] <XtraRonnY> no it doesnt :/
#1352 [12:18] <Kealper> isn't the WoM client like hella modded?
#1353 [12:18] * DopeGhoti prefers the delicious vanilla client.
#1353 [12:18] <TrueWolves> Hugely, and the creator of WoM sort of turned in to a jerk.
#1354 [12:18] * Kealper dislikes it even more then
#1354 [12:21] <kaskull> I know that plugins are not do by the creators... but no body can hlep me?
#1355 [12:21] <kaskull> :S
#1356 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> kaskull - We can point you to: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_mods
#1357 [12:22] <kaskull> ty
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#1360 [12:24] <kaskull> gery
#1361 [12:24] <Adidass> I have a question
#1362 [12:25] <kaskull> had you use a plugin?
#1363 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#1364 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1365 [12:25] <Adidass> when i download the programs to make a own server i get 3 programs but i need more, how is that possible ?
#1366 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> When you run the server, it generates more files
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#1368 [12:27] <Adidass> i can't run the server, i need to fill in the admins etc, but i don't get that files
#1369 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> And make sure you've got the right server. If you've got one that has start-server.bat, minecraft-server.jar and readme.. that's the classic
#1370 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> When you run the server for the first time, it generates those files
#1371 [12:28] <Adidass> yes i have that one
#1372 [12:28] <Adidass> the classic one
#1373 [12:28] <Adidass> but where can i download or something ?
#1374 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> When you run the server, it generates more files
#1375 [12:29] <Adidass> where can i run the server =
#1376 [12:29] <Adidass> ?
#1377 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> Whereever you downloaded it
#1378 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Use start-server.bnat
#1379 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> bat
#1380 [12:31] <Adidass> www.minecraft.net, but when i do start-server.bat nothing happend... i don't get more files or something
#1381 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Are you on windows?
#1382 [12:31] <Adidass> jep
#1383 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Run it in a command line
#1384 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> See if it generates any errors
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#1386 [12:33] <Adidass> i don't know what you mean
#1387 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Where did you download the server to?
#1388 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> What folder?
#1389 [12:34] <Adidass> winrar
#1390 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Did you unrar it?
#1391 [12:35] <Adidass> unrar ?
#1392 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Did you extract it?
#1393 [12:35] <Adidass> yes but there don't come any more programs
#1394 [12:36] <Adidass> and now i have it in a folder
#1395 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> the .jar file itself is the server
#1396 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> the .bat is the file you run to execute it
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#1398 [12:36] <Adidass> but i can't open minecraft-server
#1399 [12:37] <Adidass> and i have it in a folder now, but the start server gives a error
#1400 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> What error
#1401 [12:38] <Adidass> a kind of: java can't use as a batchfile, internfile
#1402 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#1403 [12:38] <Adidass> do you speak dutch ?
#1404 [12:38] <nipper> http://www.dump.com/2011/01/02/minecraft-a-growing-forest-video/
#1405 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, no, but try pasting it
#1406 [12:39] <Adidass> Java will not be recognized as an internal or external program or batch file
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#1408 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Ah, java's not in your environment variables
#1409 [12:40] <nipper> If your on windows make sure hava 1.6+ is installde and just run the jar file. Only use the batch if you want to limit the memory usage.
#1410 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Could you pull up window's control panel
#1411 [12:40] <kaskull> hey people
#1412 [12:40] <kaskull> i've download http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar
#1413 [12:40] <kaskull> but what i've to do?
#1414 [12:40] <kaskull> i exec ssh?
#1415 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> The command you need to use is right beneath the link where you got it
#1416 [12:41] <Adidass> i have java 1.6
#1417 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#1418 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Adidass - Java didn't add itself to the system's environment variables
#1419 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> You need to add it yourself
#1420 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> If you could go to the Control panel inside windows, I can walk you through it
#1421 [12:42] <Adidass> k
#1422 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Go to the java icon in the control panel
#1423 [12:42] <nipper> If thats the case find out where its installed and use "/path/to/java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui That should work as well."
#1424 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> That should, yes.
#1425 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> But Adidass is using the classic server
#1426 [12:43] <nipper> yum FTW it does it all for you.
#1427 [12:43] <Adidass> where is can i download it >?
#1428 [12:44] <nipper> some linux disros have it already installed
#1429 [12:45] <kaskull> GreyVulpine - i've done and i have executed it but i don't knwo where i can put my plugins
#1430 [12:45] <kaskull> because i only have this
#1431 [12:45] <kaskull> http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9648/sinttuloka.png
#1432 [12:45] <nipper> kaskull plugins for what?
#1433 [12:45] <kaskull> i don't know for example
#1434 [12:45] <nipper> The basic mc server don't use plugins
#1435 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> I'm sorry, but I really have to out out there that if you're not up with basic package installation, do you really think it's a good idea to jump into game server administration? :p
#1436 [12:45] <nipper> You will need to install a mod called hey0 for that.
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#1438 [12:46] <kaskull> nipper
#1439 [12:46] <nipper> Lol DopeGhoti
#1440 [12:46] <kaskull> can you talk with pm?
#1441 [12:46] <kaskull> :S
#1442 [12:46] <nipper> Depends, I'm not really in the mood for sex talk.
#1443 [12:46] <kaskull> xd
#1444 [12:47] <nipper> But sure I can try my hardest to answer what ever questions you may have.
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#1447 [13:01] <bas> hello
#1448 [13:01] <mbentley> hola
#1449 [13:02] <bas> i have two friends who cant join a server, with every server the error comes up, failed to connect cannot verify username..
#1450 [13:02] <Coll> shit
#1451 [13:02] <Coll> I port forward and the port wont open
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#1453 [13:02] <bas> try to setup the server
#1454 [13:03] <bas> sometime's u have to wait for ports to open
#1455 [13:03] <Coll> ok
#1456 [13:03] <mbentley> true, depending on the test you are using, sometimes they don't detect the port being open if something isn't listening on the port
#1457 [13:07] <Coll> hmm
#1458 [13:07] <Coll> odd
#1459 [13:07] <Coll> I am using canyouseeme.org
#1460 [13:07] <Coll> I close ports and it says connection timed out
#1461 [13:08] <Coll> I open them it says connection refused
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#1463 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> Coll: sounds like the port is open, but nothing is listening
#1464 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> which is what 'connection refused' means.
#1465 [13:09] <Coll> are you sure?
#1466 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#1467 [13:09] <mbentley> DopeGhoti: i think it would be the other way around
#1468 [13:09] <Coll> timed out usually means it is open but nothing is listening
#1469 [13:09] <mbentley> connection refused = closed
#1470 [13:09] <mbentley> connection timed out = nothing is listening
#1471 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: usually, a "closed" port is stealthed, so that the packets are dropped, not refused.
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#1473 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> if you open the port, that allows the packets past the TCP DROP barrier
#1474 [13:09] <Coll> how do I know if it is stealthed?
#1475 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> if you have no service running on that port, the connection will be refused.
#1476 [13:10] <mbentley> i stand corrected
#1477 [13:10] <DopeGhoti> Coll: connection timeouts are the obvious example of a stealthed port :)
#1478 [13:10] <Coll> I have nothing running on 25565
#1479 [13:10] <Coll> yet it times out
#1480 [13:10] <mbentley> then it probably isn't open somewhere
#1481 [13:11] <mbentley> ie - at the router, another firewall, etc
#1482 [13:11] <Coll> firewall is down
#1483 [13:11] <Coll> and portforwarding is the router
#1484 [13:11] <DopeGhoti> Coll: let's start with the basics. What OS? What IP?
#1485 [13:11] <Coll> ip would be of no concern cause tjis is another game
#1486 [13:12] <DopeGhoti> if it's another game, why are you seeeking help here rather than #anothergamehelp? :p
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#1488 [13:15] <Coll> cause you guys usually tend to deal with portforwarding anyways
#1489 [13:15] <Coll> just trying to see what is up
#1490 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> well, what port is your service running on?
#1491 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> And what IP?
#1492 [13:18] <Coll> a few different ports but I closed them for the moment I am checking something real quick
#1493 [13:19] <Coll> eh forget it w/e
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#1495 [13:20] <nipper> coll you trying to bind it a IP address?
#1496 [13:21] <Coll> no just open ports for people to connect
#1497 [13:21] <nipper> If so just leave it blank enless you have to.
#1498 [13:21] <Coll> wait what
#1499 [13:21] <Coll> uh
#1500 [13:21] <Coll> forget it
#1501 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> open ports for people to connect to _what_ though?
#1502 [13:22] <Coll> a gmod server
#1503 [13:23] <barrycarlyon> Garys mod?
#1504 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Then you forward port 27015 or something similar.
#1505 [13:23] <Coll> Yes
#1506 [13:23] * GreyVulpine used to run huge Source engine servers.
#1506 [13:24] <Coll> tbh I dont even have the port list and google is getting me all kinds of different ports
#1507 [13:24] <Coll> :/
#1508 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> How are you hosting it? With srcds?
#1509 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> Source servers are generally port 27015
#1510 [13:24] * GreyVulpine nods
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#1511 [13:25] <Coll> no just the ingame hosting
#1512 [13:26] <Coll> you click multiplayer then click the map you want to host
#1513 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> That was probably the easiest classic setup I've done in a long time. Put in java in environment variables, port forwarded for him, and got it all working in 30 minutes.
#1514 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Oh, you're setting up a listen server.
#1515 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Same deal then, just port forward 27015 from your router to your computer
#1516 [13:27] <Coll> ok
#1517 [13:31] <nipper> lol GreyVulpine charge buck for server setup.
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#1519 [13:32] <Wesley> hello people
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#1521 [13:32] <Wesley> can someone help me?
#1522 [13:32] <mbentley> sure just ask
#1523 [13:33] <Wesley> there are more than 3 friends of mine in my server, but someone else wanna join but an error shows up: Failed to verify username!
#1524 [13:33] <Wesley> what can i or he do ?
#1525 [13:33] <Wesley> that error shows up in my dedicated server log
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#1527 [13:35] <noremac430> hey all
#1528 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1529 [13:35] <mbentley> hmm, i seem to remember others having issues and not getting an actual solution
#1530 [13:36] <Wesley> so there is no help for it?
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#1532 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate? What type of server is this?
#1533 [13:37] <noremac430> Looking for some assistance with manually installing Runecraft with Visual Admin. I've had no luck so far and I was hoping of of you have hand any luck with it
#1534 [13:38] <mbentley> have you tried to disable 'online-mode' ? (ie - set it to false)
#1535 [13:38] <Wesley> but then can no one join?
#1536 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Not online-mode, but verify-names
#1537 [13:38] <mbentley> no, that means it doesn't verify usernames with the minecraft servers
#1538 [13:38] <Wesley> ok, i will try
#1539 [13:38] <Wesley> thx
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#1541 [13:40] <mib_s5znze> Hellos.
#1542 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#1544 [13:40] <mib_s5znze> Let me change my name quick. brb
#1545 [13:40] <Coll> still cant get in
#1546 [13:40] <Coll> ports are forwarded properly
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#1548 [13:41] <AznMadness> Ok. So i have a question about setting up a server
#1549 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#1550 [13:42] <AznMadness> Well first, port forwarding. I can't forward my port for the life of me
#1551 [13:42] <noremac430> port forwarding is pretty simple
#1552 [13:42] <AznMadness> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WNR2000/default.htm
#1553 [13:42] <noremac430> what kind of router setup are you using
#1554 [13:42] <AznMadness> I've done that
#1555 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> You've port forwarded 25565/TCP to your server's ip address?
#1556 [13:42] <AznMadness> yep
#1557 [13:42] <AznMadness> I put my laptop as a static ip
#1558 [13:43] <mbentley> AznMadness: i am assuming you are running windows. did you disable or allow port 25565 in the windows firewall?
#1559 [13:43] <AznMadness> set up the port accordingly
#1560 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Checked your router's status page, make sure the WAN/internet/public IP there, matches with whatismyip.com?
#1561 [13:43] <Rev> hey guys, i have a problem. i cant deactivate the monster spawn on my 4players server. i set monsters=false
#1562 [13:43] <noremac430> can you screen shot your router port forwarding setup?
#1563 [13:43] <AznMadness> Yeah
#1564 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Rev - spawn-monsters=false?
#1565 [13:43] <Rev> ah ok thanks
#1566 [13:43] <AznMadness> give me a sec noremac430. and greyvulpine i'll check that too. brb
#1567 [13:44] <noremac430> make sure the screen shot doesn't have any compromising info visible
#1568 [13:44] <noremac430> not that I think it will, but still.
#1569 [13:46] <AznMadness> oh i know ;) http://tinypic.com/r/far0u9/7
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#1571 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> tinypic not so tiny
#1572 [13:47] <GhostRfile> Hi need help i cant neither connect to the webside of minecraft nor log in with the client got firefox win7
#1573 [13:47] <noremac430> well that looks good. Did you check your firewall?
#1574 [13:47] <GhostRfile> all off by now
#1575 [13:48] <Coll> I have the same router
#1576 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> GhostRfile: what happens when you try to go to minecraft.net?
#1577 [13:48] <noremac430> ok. as a TEST ONLY, find and enable DMZ on your router and point it to your PC's IP
#1578 [13:48] <AznMadness> On the computer i'm trying to set up the server on or the one i'm trying to connect with noremac430?
#1579 [13:48] <AznMadness> Alright
#1580 [13:48] <Coll> there is no DMZ mode on the router as far as I am aware
#1581 [13:48] <noremac430> it needs to be pointd to the one with the server
#1582 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Firewall/security software?
#1583 [13:48] <noremac430> it may not be called DMZ, it's different on some routers
#1584 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Windows firewlal?
#1585 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> firewall?
#1586 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> AznMadness / noremac430: are you both behind the same router?
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#1588 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> ir are you in different places?
#1589 [13:49] <noremac430> i don't know that guy. just trying to help
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#1591 [13:49] <GhostRfile> my problem is a little different when i try to go to minecraft.net i got this: http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2395/zjxzqxoa_png.htm
#1592 [13:49] <AznMadness> I apologize, enabling the DMZ made me d/c
#1593 [13:49] <noremac430> no worries
#1594 [13:49] <AznMadness> anything i missed/
#1595 [13:50] <noremac430> no
#1596 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Windows firewall?
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#1598 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Any security software?
#1599 [13:50] <noremac430> is it pointing to the PC with the server running?
#1600 [13:50] <GhostRfile> all off antivirguard inactive
#1601 [13:50] <AznMadness> Avast Antivirus, Threatfire
#1602 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Windows firewall?
#1603 [13:50] <AznMadness> yes
#1604 [13:50] <noremac430> disable everything on that pc that could potentially block it
#1605 [13:50] <AznMadness> k
#1606 [13:50] <DopeGhoti> GhostRfile: oh god never use that site
#1607 [13:51] * DopeGhoti killfiles directupload.net
#1607 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> yay pop-ups.
#1608 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> (in German for some reason, no less)
#1609 [13:51] <AznMadness> lol minecraft is down
#1610 [13:51] <AznMadness> anyway
#1611 [13:51] <AznMadness> i did
#1612 [13:51] <genshou-sleeping> murnings :]
#1613 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> and no, minecraft.net works just fine for me
#1614 [13:51] <noremac430> ok. any luck?
#1615 [13:51] <GhostRfile> but why this c-panel thing?
#1616 [13:51] <noremac430> what is the IP of your MC server?
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#1618 [13:51] <genshou> So, on very rare occasions I'll get one or two pimples
#1619 [13:52] <AznMadness> give me a sec
#1620 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> GhostRfile: something on your end.
#1621 [13:52] <genshou> Someone suggested putting toothpaste on the skin, but forgot to warn me it would sting xD
#1622 [13:52] <GhostRfile> would u think reinstall win7 will solve this prob.?
#1623 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> GhostRfile: I didn't have time to read it before the ads started swarming in.
#1624 [13:53] <GhostRfile> where should i upload the pic?
#1625 [13:53] <mbentley> GhostRfile: how did you get to that url? http://www.minecraft.net
#1626 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> GhostRfile: anywhere but there. God.
#1627 [13:53] <mbentley> the url in the pic had /cgi-bin/...someothercraphere...
#1628 [13:53] <Kealper> http://imgur.com
#1629 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> GhostRfile: did you click on a link to get to that site, or did you type in www.minecraft.net into your browser?
#1630 [13:54] <GhostRfile> i did both nothing worked
#1631 [13:54] <AznMadness> noremac430 the port is still closed (when checked on yougetsignal.com)
#1632 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> and when you physically type the URI in, you get to the same place?
#1633 [13:54] <Kealper> alternatively for checking servers
#1634 [13:54] <AznMadness> noremac430 what are my wan settings supposed to be?
#1635 [13:54] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#1636 [13:54] <GhostRfile> yes physical too
#1637 [13:55] <noremac430> whisper your server IP to me.
#1638 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> GhostRfile: try http://194.28.157.42/
#1639 [13:55] <AznMadness> how do i whisper?
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#1641 [13:55] <Kealper> /msg username message
#1642 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> if that works, something is klobbering your DNS.
#1643 [13:55] <GhostRfile> Bad gateway!
#1644 [13:56] <GhostRfile> ZEN
#1645 [13:56] <GhostRfile> ?
#1646 [13:56] <Kealper> it worked
#1647 [13:56] <Kealper> something is messed up with your dns
#1648 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> hmm, that "works", I get the same thing (they must be usign name-based virtual hosts)
#1649 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> your DNS is wanged. try manually setting your DNS server to 8.8.8.8
#1650 [13:57] <GhostRfile> in win?
#1651 [13:57] <GhostRfile> or router?
#1652 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> GhostRfile - Can you ping minecraft.net?
#1653 [13:57] <DopeGhoti> Both.
#1654 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> What do you get?
#1655 [13:58] <GhostRfile> no packets lost by pingning minecraft.net
#1656 [13:58] <Kealper> they go though?
#1657 [13:58] <mbentley> well yeah, but if it is hijacked, it would still reply
#1658 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> No, but what ip address does it have?
#1659 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> What did it resolve to?
#1660 [13:59] <mbentley> you should be seeing >> 'Reply from 194.28.157.42: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=45'
#1661 [13:59] <mbentley> or something similar
#1662 [13:59] <Kealper> so...since i was not following stuff...what does his thing do? redirect to some scam site?
#1663 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Trying to find out
#1664 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> if you see any other address, it's further evidence that your DNS is wanged.
#1665 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> GhostRfile?
#1666 [14:00] <GhostRfile> yes?
#1667 [14:00] <mbentley> it goes to some 'congrats you installed apache' or something similar
#1668 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> What did it resolve to?
#1669 [14:01] <GhostRfile> i dont understand
#1670 [14:01] <GhostRfile> the dns thing did nothing
#1671 [14:01] <Kealper> when you did the ping...
#1672 [14:01] <GhostRfile> everything fine
#1673 [14:01] <mbentley> when you did 'ping minecraft.net', what is the ip address in the 'reply from...' line
#1674 [14:01] <Kealper> it should have said reply from and then an ip address
#1675 [14:01] <lukegb> GhostRfile: what does 'nslookup minecraft.net' say then?
#1676 [14:02] <GhostRfile> not authorized answere
#1677 [14:02] <GhostRfile> minecraft.net
#1678 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> you mean authorative
#1679 [14:02] <GhostRfile> yes mine is german sorry
#1680 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> there's a series of numbers
#1681 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> no problem. what address though?
#1682 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> xx.xx.xx.xx
#1683 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> What is that address?
#1684 [14:03] <GhostRfile> 194.28.157.42
#1685 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> yes.
#1686 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> okay
#1687 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> so it's not a DNS issue
#1688 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> which browser are you using? IE?
#1689 [14:03] <lukegb> What's he having issues with?
#1690 [14:03] <Kealper> looks like Fx in the screenshot
#1691 [14:03] <GhostRfile> firefox but same with opera
#1692 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> Check your settings for any proxy servers, and if there are any, remove them.
#1693 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Fx will forever to me be a third-rate cable channel.
#1694 [14:04] <Kealper> yea, def gotta be a proxy, that web page he gets does not even actually exist on the real minecraft server
#1695 [14:04] <GhostRfile> one moment pls
#1696 [14:04] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: FF looks ugly though
#1697 [14:05] <mbentley> here is the screen shot >> http://www.mbentley.net/temp/GhostRfile.png
#1698 [14:05] <mbentley> ^^^ no popups :D
#1699 [14:05] <GhostRfile> thank you
#1700 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> Better yet, GhostRfile:
#1701 [14:05] <Kealper> there were popups on that other site? lol
#1702 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> go here: www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/
#1703 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> install that
#1704 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> have it scan your computer
#1705 [14:05] * Kealper disabled AdBlock Plus and reloads that page
#1705 [14:06] <GhostRfile> ok
#1706 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> and once all the malware is gone, you probably will once again be able to get to minnecraft.net (and other pages)
#1707 [14:06] <Kealper> oh god that's nasty
#1708 [14:06] <mbentley> yeah, i tried to enter that url and i get nothing
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#1710 [14:06] <GhostRfile> still the same
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#1712 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> GhostRfile: you can't have installed and run that software already.
#1713 [14:07] <GhostRfile> no the adblockplus thing
#1714 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> ah
#1715 [14:07] <GhostRfile> next is the software
#1716 [14:07] <GhostRfile> never got so much help :D
#1717 [14:07] <Kealper> it was full of popups and ads saying meet 24 year old german chicks without ABP on...lol
#1718 [14:07] <mbentley> ooh
#1719 [14:07] * mbentley turns adblock off
#1719 [14:08] * GreyVulpine snickers
#1719 [14:08] <GhostRfile> sry for that i didnt mentioned that because of noscript
#1720 [14:08] <Kealper> and some popup that says "Download Now! New!"
#1721 [14:08] <mbentley> in for 24 year old german chicks
#1722 [14:08] <Kealper> not even any description, just says download lol
#1723 [14:08] <Coll> Grey I have no idea what is going on
#1724 [14:08] <Coll> portforwarded
#1725 [14:09] <Coll> no firewalls on
#1726 [14:09] <Coll> and sitll
#1727 [14:09] <Coll> no one can connect
#1728 [14:09] <Kealper> Coll: do you have said server binding the correct address?
#1729 [14:09] <Coll> yes
#1730 [14:09] <Kealper> have it use 0.0.0.0
#1731 [14:09] <Kealper> that binds all available addresses
#1732 [14:10] <Kealper> and can you connect locally to it?
#1733 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> Coll: what IP? Still a half-life server?
#1734 [14:11] <Coll> yes
#1735 [14:11] <Coll> I just took it down
#1736 [14:11] <Coll> it is more trouble then it is wort
#1737 [14:11] <barrycarlyon> Hmm i was considerin running hMod, and I just read its been discontinued lolz.
#1738 [14:11] <Coll> what I just dont understand is why this portforwarding bullshit or networking in general is so fucking difficult to get working properly
#1739 [14:11] <Kealper> lol
#1740 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> Coll: it's not, though
#1741 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Really isn't
#1742 [14:12] <Kealper> i've never had a problem with port forwarding....
#1743 [14:12] <Coll> but it always has been for me
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#1745 [14:12] <Coll> it has always been finicky for me on way or another
#1746 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> Get yourself a Network+ certification, and this'll seem like the child's play that it is.
#1747 [14:12] <Kealper> Coll: just forward ports 1 to 65535 to your computer then, and make sure you have a firewall on
#1748 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#1749 [14:12] <GhostRfile> need restart i come back when progress is completed
#1750 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> GhostRfile: good luck
#1751 [14:13] <GhostRfile> thx for all your help!
#1752 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> Bitte schoen.
#1753 [14:13] <Kealper> and Coll i was serious about that...lol
#1754 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> with sites like he picked for image hosting, no wonder his PC was screwed six ways to Sunday.
#1755 [14:13] <Coll> sigh
#1756 [14:13] <Coll> ill try it
#1757 [14:13] <Coll> if not I give
#1758 [14:13] <noremac430> Looking for some assistance with manually installing Runecraft with Visual Admin. I've had no luck so far and I was hoping of of you have hand any luck with it
#1759 [14:14] <Kealper> and do both tcp and udp.....and did i mention make sure you have a firewall installed on your computer? lol
#1760 [14:14] <barrycarlyon> Runecraft?
#1761 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> noremac430: #hey0 I think
#1762 [14:14] <Kealper> mod
#1763 [14:14] <barrycarlyon> rofl
#1764 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> IIRC that's a plugin for htat mod.
#1765 [14:14] <barrycarlyon> I thought runecraft was a different game.
#1766 [14:14] <Kealper> Runecraft was it's own mod last i checked
#1767 [14:15] <Kealper> that's Runescape
#1768 [14:15] <noremac430> rc is an addon
#1769 [14:15] <barrycarlyon> Rune sumething or oterh.
#1770 [14:15] <barrycarlyon> Thats it :-D
#1771 [14:15] <noremac430> but thanks DopeGhoti
#1772 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#1773 [14:15] <Simen> how do i set new spawn location?
#1774 [14:15] <barrycarlyon> Simen: you don't
#1775 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> (also, I briefly checked out Bukkit's page. Looks great and all, but won't _Everyhing_ over there be useless and have to be slashed-and-burned once the actual mod API is out?
#1776 [14:16] <barrycarlyon> Its not in the core vanilla game.
#1777 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> )
#1778 [14:16] <Simen> CAn't i?
#1779 [14:16] <Simen> Why!
#1780 [14:16] <Kealper> one would assume DopeGhoti
#1781 [14:16] <Simen> In classic you can :/
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#1783 [14:16] <barrycarlyon> But DopeGhoti "people" want stuff NOW!
#1784 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> Simen: because Notch didn't build that option into the server yet.
#1785 [14:16] <barrycarlyon> Simen: you didn't mention classic.
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#1787 [14:17] <Kealper> Notch seems to like that bukkit is focused on speed with plugins, who knows, bukkit code could end up in the official api
#1788 [14:17] <feenyx> my head is bursting with knowledge
#1789 [14:18] <Kealper> feenyx: is that a good thing or a bad thing? lol
#1790 [14:18] <feenyx> and my eyers are weary from staring at log files, trying to divine why the setup I just ran created 3 out of the 4 databases it was supposed to
#1791 [14:18] <feenyx> good thing
#1792 [14:18] <feenyx> I'm a professional geek after all
#1793 [14:19] <Kealper> i wish i was a professional geek....i'm just a freelance geek atm :/
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#1795 [14:19] <mbentley> i am a high underutilized geek :)
#1796 [14:19] <mbentley> *highly
#1797 [14:19] <Kealper> lol
#1798 [14:20] <PandaBear> Apparently I'm a computer nerd.
#1799 [14:20] <feenyx> PandaBear: do you know what an ESX is?
#1800 [14:20] <PandaBear> Suprising considering idk how to code yet
#1801 [14:20] <feenyx> without googling
#1802 [14:20] <PandaBear> And no I'm 13 :P
#1803 [14:20] * mbentley does
#1803 [14:20] * Kealper does
#1803 [14:20] <feenyx> congratulations, you're both geeks :)
#1804 [14:20] <Kealper> oh joy
#1805 [14:21] * mbentley high fives Kealper
#1805 [14:21] <feenyx> PandaBear: then you're not a computer nerd
#1806 [14:21] <feenyx> take it from us
#1807 [14:21] <PandaBear> What is it? :P
#1808 [14:21] <feenyx> you'll know in 5-10 years
#1809 [14:21] <mbentley> plenty of time to expand...
#1810 [14:21] <feenyx> if you choose that path
#1811 [14:21] <PandaBear> Googling it fails
#1812 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> it's a distribution of virtualization infrastrucure
#1813 [14:21] * DopeGhoti is looking into UEC though
#1813 [14:21] <feenyx> googling it fails if you don't know what it is :p
#1814 [14:22] <Coll> now to wait for this person to respond and test it
#1815 [14:22] <PandaBear> Ty Dope
#1816 [14:22] <PandaBear> :P
#1817 [14:22] * mbentley plugs esx into google
#1817 [14:22] <mbentley> seems to answer it well enough
#1818 [14:22] <Kealper> PandaBear: here's one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMware_ESX
#1819 [14:22] <feenyx> mbentley: it does
#1820 [14:22] <feenyx> but there's alot of buzzwords
#1821 [14:22] <Kealper> <3 VMWare
#1822 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> "Did you mean: 'sex'?"
#1823 [14:22] <mbentley> lol
#1824 [14:22] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: XD
#1825 [14:22] <feenyx> ahaha
#1826 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> <3 Google's spellchecker
#1827 [14:23] <feenyx> rarely, when having to do with esx, did one actually mean to google sex
#1828 [14:23] <feenyx> and that's a pun so deep, and funny on so many levels, I can't even begin to fathom it in my caffeine-infused state
#1829 [14:23] <PandaBear> Well I beat the rest of my class at being a computer nerd
#1830 [14:23] <PandaBear> And 90% of the people I know
#1831 [14:24] <Kealper> feenyx: lol
#1832 [14:24] <PandaBear> I feel sorry for those who think learning a coding language is like learning a spoken language
#1833 [14:25] <Kealper> hmm....i should clean my room....it's looking like a computer graveyard again :/
#1834 [14:25] <mbentley> i hear ya
#1835 [14:25] <mbentley> random parts all over
#1836 [14:26] <Kealper> i noticed this after i seen i was using an old emachines comp as an end table :/
#1837 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> lol
#1838 [14:26] <Kealper> and then realized that it's guts were spewed out everywhere
#1839 [14:27] <Kealper> brb.....maybe i'll find my old N64 or something buried amidst the junk
#1840 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: wow
#1841 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> you found a useful purpose for eMachines?!
#1842 [14:27] * DopeGhoti is impressed
#1842 [14:27] <mbentley> actually, an old case might make a decent end table for me... would replace my empty paper ream boxes nicely
#1843 [14:28] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i know right? lol
#1844 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: heh, it might be more stable, and at $15/table, cheaper than Ikea ;)
#1845 [14:28] <mbentley> well i have a stack of cases in my closet :D
#1846 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> even cheaper-er then
#1847 [14:28] <mbentley> erereererererrer
#1848 [14:28] <Kealper> old beigeboxes are the best...chairs...tables...they can do everything
#1849 [14:28] <mbentley> cheapererest
#1850 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> .away Lunch
#1851 [14:29] <Kealper> i wish they made cases today as strong as they were back in the 90's
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#1853 [14:29] <mbentley> antec/chieftec dragon = win
#1854 [14:29] <Kealper> well yea but i mean for oem cases
#1855 [14:29] <mbentley> oh yeah :D
#1856 [14:30] <Kealper> the steel in the ones now are like..so thin that you wonder if it'll bend just picking it up
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#1858 [14:31] <mbentley> mmmm +v
#1859 [14:31] <mbentley> thanks Kealper
#1860 [14:31] <Kealper> mbentley: if you register your nick i can put you on auto voice
#1861 [14:31] <mbentley> i am registered
#1862 [14:32] <mbentley> last i checked...
#1863 [14:32] <Kealper> orly? hmm...didn't say you were when i whois'd you
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#1865 [14:32] <mbentley> let me make sure...
#1866 [14:32] <mbentley> ah, i forgot to set up my client to auto-identify
#1867 [14:33] <BarryCarlyon> Lol.
#1868 [14:36] <mbentley> one of my favorite pictures of all time >> http://www.mbentley.net/temp/iphone_photos/IMG_1202.JPG
#1869 [14:36] <mbentley> snapped that picture when i was moving stuff from an old DC to a new one
#1870 [14:37] <mbentley> got fiber?
#1871 [14:38] <BarryCarlyon> Thats a nice standard mess.
#1872 [14:38] <mbentley> that's what happens when you let admins put their own equipment in
#1873 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> wow
#1874 [14:39] <BarryCarlyon> Last time I went in a cabinet I spent 30mins tiding the paid guys mess.
#1875 [14:39] <BarryCarlyon> Thats not tooooo bad compared to some I've seen.
#1876 [14:39] <mbentley> this was just a poc lab
#1877 [14:39] <mbentley> so it isn't like any of this stuff was production so people just didn't care lol
#1878 [14:40] <BarryCarlyon> At least it has a proper floor for cabling
#1879 [14:40] <mbentley> heh yeah
#1880 [14:40] <mbentley> it was fun getting to rip out all of the cables
#1881 [14:41] <BarryCarlyon> I can imagine.
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#1883 [14:41] <mbentley> we spent about a week cataloging all of the connections and where they went to so we could jsut tear everything out. didn't reuse any of the cables
#1884 [14:42] <Casioss> Hi i have a big problem can any one Help me
#1885 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Problem with....
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#1887 [14:42] <mbentley> that whole 'ESX' thing made me think of it though cause that hot mess was the storage for a number of esx clusters
#1888 [14:43] <BarryCarlyon> How big? Is it over 9000?
#1889 [14:43] <Casioss> i have dl the game from minecraft.net (the .exe) start them and after login dl the screen of download will close and nothing start the programm closed without any error or something
#1890 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Haha. www.sysadminporn.com
#1891 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> SFW
#1892 [14:44] <mbentley> lol GreyVulpine
#1893 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, this was what I was looking for
#1894 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> http://www.sysadminporn.com/2010/12/ocd-cabling.html/ocd_cables_3
#1895 [14:44] <Casioss> can any one help?
#1896 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Just a work of art
#1897 [14:44] * mbentley sheds a tear
#1897 [14:44] <mbentley> it's beautiful
#1898 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Casioss - The minecraft client?
#1899 [14:45] <Casioss> again pls the google translate faild
#1900 [14:45] <lemon-rev> what operating system u running casioss
#1901 [14:45] <Casioss> XP
#1902 [14:45] <lemon-rev> you running a firewall
#1903 [14:45] <BarryCarlyon> GreyVulpine: that OCS Cableing is amazing.
#1904 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> I know!
#1905 [14:46] <Casioss> y
#1906 [14:46] <lemon-rev> check it to see if its blocking minecraft.exe cause it trys connecting to minecraft.nety
#1907 [14:46] <lemon-rev> check it to see if its blocking minecraft.exe cause it trys connecting to minecraft.net
#1908 [14:46] <lemon-rev> morning pplz, not that, i could help not sleeping cause body too saw
#1909 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Casioss - How much RAM do you have on the computer?
#1910 [14:47] <Casioss> 2gb
#1911 [14:48] <lemon-rev> that should be enough its like what im runing
#1912 [14:48] <Casioss> i do all firewalls offline and the same problem
#1913 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> And you have java installed?
#1914 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Latest version?
#1915 [14:48] <Kealper> great success! http://i.imgur.com/mELDC.jpg
#1916 [14:48] <Casioss> y i hope per firefox they say its up to date
#1917 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1918 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Go there, verify your installation
#1919 [14:49] <mbentley> NINTENDO SIXTY FOUR!!!!!
#1920 [14:49] <Kealper> i found it again! lol
#1921 [14:49] <lemon-rev> sweet n64 i got 2 of those ones dead :(
#1922 [14:50] <Kealper> mine has the expantion pack (gives it a whole 8mb of vram) and other aftermarket goodies lol
#1923 [14:50] <Casioss> do u thinkYou have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 23
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#1925 [14:50] <Casioss> -.-
#1926 [14:50] <Casioss> You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 23
#1927 [14:50] <lemon-rev> yes
#1928 [14:50] <lemon-rev> you got it installed or you have to install it
#1929 [14:50] <Casioss> i have this version
#1930 [14:50] <lemon-rev> k
#1931 [14:50] <lemon-rev> what about virus protection
#1932 [14:51] <lemon-rev> check it to see if its blocking your program
#1933 [14:51] <Casioss> do u think that my graphic-card is the problem because it is a laptop?
#1934 [14:51] <lemon-rev> hm
#1935 [14:51] <Casioss> virus antivir
#1936 [14:51] <lemon-rev> could be
#1937 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> It'd pop up an error if it did
#1938 [14:51] <Kealper> Casioss: depends, is it a new laptop?
#1939 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> You said it doesn't give you any errors at all?
#1940 [14:51] <Casioss> no in April 2 years old
#1941 [14:51] <Casioss> y
#1942 [14:51] <lemon-rev> it should run it if its that new of a laptop
#1943 [14:52] <Casioss> i start => login => update (is not finish) the pop up closed
#1944 [14:52] <Kealper> does anyone else read "y" as "why" and not "yes" when you first see it?
#1945 [14:52] <lemon-rev> hm
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#1947 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Casioss - Can you try the browser version?
#1948 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Does it do the same thing?
#1949 [14:52] <Casioss> no
#1950 [14:52] <lemon-rev> hm kealper i read y and yes and only y as in why if its put into a question
#1951 [14:52] <Casioss> nit the same but it not start
#1952 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Does the java console open when you use the browser version?
#1953 [14:53] <Casioss> hes load than he fnish and no go
#1954 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Does it give you any information?
#1955 [14:53] <Casioss> no
#1956 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> No?
#1957 [14:53] <lemon-rev> so no error code
#1958 [14:53] <Casioss> no importen information
#1959 [14:53] <lemon-rev> not what we are asking
#1960 [14:53] <lemon-rev> can you give us
#1961 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> But it does give you information in the java console
#1962 [14:53] <lemon-rev> what its saying to you
#1963 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Can you copy and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#1964 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Let us see it?
#1965 [14:55] <Casioss> the java start
#1966 [14:55] <lemon-rev> no
#1967 [14:55] <lemon-rev> the error log if you have one
#1968 [14:55] <Casioss> it is no error log
#1969 [14:55] <Casioss> he load the side
#1970 [14:55] <lemon-rev> and give us what ever minecraft.exe is saying to you when it crashes
#1971 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> But when you start minecraft in the browser. Does it also pop up a java console.
#1972 [14:55] <Casioss> the minecraft,exe say nothin
#1973 [14:56] <Casioss> y he quest me ob i will this i say y and he start but few sec later java closed and the site has finish load
#1974 [14:57] <lemon-rev> check mydocuments / your computer name / Application Data\.minecraft and tell us what directorys you see there
#1975 [14:57] <Casioss> lastlogin and the folder names bin
#1976 [14:58] <lemon-rev> try deleting the /bin directory and see if minecraft.exe will reload again,
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#1978 [14:59] <yecki> hi evryone
#1979 [14:59] <Casioss> he dl the files again and after dl the programm closed
#1980 [15:00] <lemon-rev> hm
#1981 [15:00] <lemon-rev> does minecraft window just close by it self or just go black ?
#1982 [15:00] <Casioss> by it self
#1983 [15:00] <lemon-rev> wired
#1984 [15:00] <yecki> indeed
#1985 [15:01] <yecki> in java something like hat has to be programmed oO
#1986 [15:01] <mbentley> sounds like we might need to get you to run the .jar...
#1987 [15:01] <yecki> hmm did you try the browser version?
#1988 [15:01] <Casioss> y the same as before
#1989 [15:02] <yecki> the browser collapses?
#1990 [15:02] <lemon-rev> what video card he got on laptop
#1991 [15:02] <Casioss> Ati mobility Radeon X1600
#1992 [15:02] <lemon-rev> hm
#1993 [15:02] <lemon-rev> that should well and truly run it
#1994 [15:03] <lemon-rev> can he play anything else on laptop
#1995 [15:03] <lemon-rev> ?
#1996 [15:03] <mbentley> that should be more than enough
#1997 [15:03] <Casioss> mh..
#1998 [15:03] <mbentley> and if it was video related, it would normally just toss a video card error
#1999 [15:03] <Casioss> i dl java new
#2000 [15:03] <lemon-rev> well you can try
#2001 [15:03] <Casioss> remove java and install it new
#2002 [15:03] <Casioss> ok brb
#2003 [15:04] <yecki> btw my problem :D i can't go on my server ( which is on my pc while i'm on my notebook so its NOT 127.0.0.1) my friends and evryone else can connect. but if i try the server throws a couple of exceptions if i remember correctly its a wrong position or something. i'm lookin that up now :D w8 a moment
#2004 [15:04] <lemon-rev> lol
#2005 [15:04] <lemon-rev> your ip 127 is not an ip
#2006 [15:04] <lemon-rev> whatsmyip.org < is an ip that is yours
#2007 [15:05] <yecki> i know i said its not 2127.0.0.1 its like home (loopback)
#2008 [15:05] <yecki> damn typo :D
#2009 [15:05] <mbentley> actually, if you are on the same LAN, you should use the local ip address, not the wan
#2010 [15:05] <yecki> tried that as well ( though till a couple of days it worked just fine even with the wan)
#2011 [15:05] <mbentley> i haven't really had any luck using the wan hostname/ip on my local network
#2012 [15:06] <lemon-rev> yecki you say everyone else can connect
#2013 [15:06] <lemon-rev> but you cant
#2014 [15:06] <yecki> on my laptop it goes to downloading terrain and on my server it says...
#2015 [15:06] <lemon-rev> so you know your server is up
#2016 [15:06] <yecki> yes
#2017 [15:06] <mbentley> ah so it is making a connection...
#2018 [15:07] <lemon-rev> apparently for everyone else mbently
#2019 [15:08] <yecki> java.lang.Exception: Stack tracew is what it says on my server
#2020 [15:08] <yecki> but only when i try to connect wait my chicken is finished :D
#2021 [15:11] <lemon-rev> hum
#2022 [15:11] <lemon-rev> looking it up on web
#2023 [15:11] <mbentley> chicken - more important than minecraft
#2024 [15:11] <lemon-rev> chickens are more important for survival lol
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#2026 [15:12] <feenyx> this is extra funny if you've played Deathspank
#2027 [15:12] <yecki> its doays meal so yeah don't want it to burn and stuff
#2028 [15:12] <lemon-rev> yecki how much ram you got
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#2030 [15:13] <Casioss> so i am back but i dont run
#2031 [15:13] <lemon-rev> hm
#2032 [15:13] <lemon-rev> so you still getting minecraft.exe closeing after update or after where does it crash casioss
#2033 [15:13] <mbentley> Casioss: if we can get you to try to run the .jar client, we might get a more detailed output
#2034 [15:13] <mbentley> download the client .jar version >> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.jar and save it somewhere (i would suggest your Desktop for simplicity)
#2035 [15:15] <Casioss> with the minecraft.jar the same problem after login it closed
#2036 [15:15] <mbentley> right, but we want to see the output at the console
#2037 [15:15] <mbentley> go to start > run > type in 'cmd' (without the quotes)
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#2039 [15:15] <mbentley> change directory to where the Minecraft.jar is located (example: type 'cd Desktop')
#2040 [15:15] <yecki984> bad timing to disconnect :D
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#2042 [15:15] <mbentley> you should be able to start it with this command:
#2043 [15:15] <mbentley> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe" -Xmx1024M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2044 [15:15] <yecki984> im starting my server on the console with the less ram command and without gui
#2045 [15:16] <mbentley> err
#2046 [15:16] <mbentley> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1024M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2047 [15:16] <yecki984> if it wasn't about me i'm sorry :D
#2048 [15:17] <mbentley> ^^^ for Casioss
#2049 [15:17] <Simen> what does gui means?
#2050 [15:17] <yecki984> oh ok :D
#2051 [15:17] <mbentley> graphical user interface
#2052 [15:19] <Casioss> mh.. this pfad is not find
#2053 [15:19] <yecki984> which os do you use?
#2054 [15:19] <Casioss> i dont have a program files folder
#2055 [15:20] <mbentley> hmm just try:
#2056 [15:20] <mbentley> java -Xmx1024M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2057 [15:21] <Mikau> -cp means no childporn
#2058 [15:21] <Mikau> ;)
#2059 [15:21] <Casioss> so
#2060 [15:21] <Casioss> know it find some one
#2061 [15:21] <Casioss> all tipe? what i see in cmd?
#2062 [15:21] <mbentley> sorry, i don't understand
#2063 [15:22] <Casioss> in cmd where i type java ....... -cp ......
#2064 [15:22] <mbentley> yes, in the command prompt window
#2065 [15:22] <Casioss> now i have many information
#2066 [15:22] <mbentley> you have to be in the same directory in which the Minecraft.jar file is located
#2067 [15:22] <Casioss> y
#2068 [15:22] <Casioss> in the window i will type
#2069 [15:23] <mbentley> you can copy and paste that string from here to make it easier
#2070 [15:23] <yecki984> >cd <folder>
#2071 [15:23] <Casioss> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassdefFoundError:
#2072 [15:23] <Casioss> i dont can copy in the console or?
#2073 [15:23] <mbentley> sounds like you are not in the correct directory
#2074 [15:23] <Casioss> and paste it here
#2075 [15:23] <yecki984> so it didn't found the actual file am i right?
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#2077 [15:24] <yecki984> yeah thats what i guessed :D
#2078 [15:24] <Reaver__> hello, anyone can help with serverport plugin?
#2079 [15:24] <Reaver__> i donate 5e :P
#2080 [15:24] <mbentley> we don't really deal with mods usually
#2081 [15:24] <yecki984> maybe whats your problem oO
#2082 [15:24] <Reaver__> well it loads ok etc
#2083 [15:24] <mbentley> Casioss: do you know where you downloaded minecraft.jar to?
#2084 [15:24] <Reaver__> but when i type
#2085 [15:24] <Reaver__> "/serverport"
#2086 [15:24] <Reaver__> i get
#2087 [15:25] <Casioss> y in the desktop
#2088 [15:25] <Reaver__> 2011-01-05 20:21:44 [SEVERE] Exception while calling plugin function in 'class ServerPortListener' while calling hook: 'COMMAND'.
#2089 [15:25] <yecki984> hmm
#2090 [15:26] <yecki984> sorry no knowledge from my side..
#2091 [15:26] <mbentley> Casioss: type in 'cd %USERPROFILE%\Desktop' (without the quotes)
#2092 [15:27] <Casioss> ok
#2093 [15:27] <yecki984> i forgot about that variable :D
#2094 [15:27] <mbentley> now type in: java -Xmx1024M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2095 [15:29] <Casioss> the same text as before with the exception ........
#2096 [15:29] <mbentley> hmm
#2097 [15:29] <mbentley> type in: dir Minecraft.jar
#2098 [15:29] <Reaver__> so anyone can help me with that plugin? :x
#2099 [15:29] <Casioss> ok
#2100 [15:29] <lemon-rev> rever no
#2101 [15:29] <mbentley> Casioss: did it show minecraft.jar ?
#2102 [15:30] <Casioss> y
#2103 [15:30] <yecki984> mhm could you start the java console with minecraft and write the exception it throws?
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#2106 [15:30] <mbentley> you can copy and paste from the command line by right clicking on the command prompt, choosing 'mark' and then highlight the text and then right click again to copy
#2107 [15:31] <Casioss> paste where?
#2108 [15:32] <mbentley> pastebin.com
#2109 [15:34] <Casioss> this here?.
#2110 [15:34] <Casioss> 1. C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\XXXX\Desktop>java -Xmx1024M -cp Minecraft.ja 2. net.minecraft.LuncherFrame 3. Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/Lunch 4. Frame 5. Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.LuncherFrame 6. at java.net.URLClassL
#2111 [15:34] <mbentley> usually you can just send us the link from pastebin.com
#2112 [15:35] <mbentley> you missed a few things...
#2113 [15:35] <Casioss> http://pastebin.com/qQBSN7m5
#2114 [15:35] <mbentley> java -Xmx1024M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2115 [15:35] <mbentley> make sure everything is spelled right
#2116 [15:35] <mbentley> you had 'LuncherFrame'
#2117 [15:36] <yecki984> mhm its .jar...
#2118 [15:36] <feenyx> net/minecraft/Lunch
#2119 [15:36] <yecki984> not .ja
#2120 [15:36] <mbentley> mmm lunch
#2121 [15:36] <yecki984> you typed wahterver.ja but its .jar :D maybe that is it..
#2122 [15:36] <mbentley> the command must be exactly as i typed it above
#2123 [15:37] <yecki984> (i hate debugging at java but i do it alot so is see things like that quite fast :D
#2124 [15:38] <yecki984> well use C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\XXXX\Desktop>java -Xmx1024M -cp Minecraft.jar
#2125 [15:38] <Casioss> so now i do it right
#2126 [15:38] <Casioss> i get the login from minecraft
#2127 [15:38] <yecki984> log in :D
#2128 [15:38] * lemon-rev keeps getting new caves with sweet looking pools of water im wondering if im just too relaxed casue my mine is full of pools its even got a hot tub lol
#2128 [15:38] <Casioss> log in and after login it cloed again
#2129 [15:39] <yecki984> hmm did it say something on cmd?
#2130 [15:39] <mbentley> ok, but look at the command prompt window
#2131 [15:39] <mbentley> it should output some info
#2132 [15:39] <mbentley> copy and paste that into pastebin.com and give us the link
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#2134 [15:40] <Casioss> http://pastebin.com/WnJuJ91G
#2135 [15:40] <mbentley> and that is all?
#2136 [15:40] <Indekkusutaku> Is there a way to check and see who last edited a block?
#2137 [15:40] <Casioss> y
#2138 [15:40] <mbentley> that is odd
#2139 [15:40] <yecki984> hmm
#2140 [15:40] <yecki984> indeed
#2141 [15:41] <yecki984> you have an untouched minecraft.jar?
#2142 [15:41] <yecki984> no mods or something i mean
#2143 [15:41] <Indekkusutaku> Me?
#2144 [15:41] <yecki984> no casioss
#2145 [15:41] <mbentley> Indekkusutaku: no
#2146 [15:42] <Indekkusutaku> Darn, well thanks anywyas
#2147 [15:42] <Casioss> i have no mods or otherthings
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#2149 [15:42] <yecki984> if i remember correctly there are a few mods that can..
#2150 [15:42] <yecki984> @casioss hmm
#2151 [15:42] <mbentley> this is what mine outputs >> http://pastebin.com/QTnziNgE
#2152 [15:43] <mbentley> that fatal error is me closing minecraft
#2153 [15:43] <Casioss> but i only get the 1-3lines
#2154 [15:43] <yecki984> w8 minecraft sees close as fatal error:D notch is pretty lazy that is :D
#2155 [15:43] <mbentley> Casioss: go to >> http://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=<username>
#2156 [15:43] <mbentley> replace <username> with your minecraft username
#2157 [15:44] <mbentley> tell us what it says
#2158 [15:44] <yecki984> :D
#2159 [15:44] <yecki984> it shouldn shut down just because ha hasn'T paid.. or do you think he has one of those ex servercrash accounts?
#2160 [15:44] <mbentley> would be highly unlikely
#2161 [15:44] <mbentley> but worth checking
#2162 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> The error message is pertaining to a problem opening an OpenAL library
#2163 [15:45] <yecki984> which?
#2164 [15:45] <lemon-rev> openal is sound but it shount crash the game
#2165 [15:45] <mbentley> DopeGhoti: it happened when i closed it
#2166 [15:45] <mbentley> it wasn't a crash
#2167 [15:47] <yecki984> it was for comparision
#2168 [15:47] <Casioss> with my acc. (i want to play the free play) it false but with my friend its true
#2169 [15:47] <Casioss> because i will test it
#2170 [15:47] <mbentley> you can't play minecraft beta for free
#2171 [15:47] <yecki984> try it once with your friends account
#2172 [15:48] <Casioss> i try with my friend acc.
#2173 [15:48] <Casioss> but it dont work
#2174 [15:48] <Casioss> i know that the beta is not free
#2175 [15:48] <yecki984> it does the samething with your friends account ?
#2176 [15:49] <mbentley> Casioss: go to start > run > type in '%appdata%\.minecraft' (without quotes). delete the 'bin' directory. try to launch it again
#2177 [15:49] <yecki984> that may help
#2178 [15:49] <Casioss> i only use the friend acc. because of testing with my acc i dont can play alpha
#2179 [15:49] <DopeGhoti> perhaps they are already logged in? I don't think the same account can be in two places at once
#2180 [15:49] <Casioss> y he is offline when i log in
#2181 [15:50] <mbentley> DopeGhoti: interesting idea
#2182 [15:50] <mbentley> i will check
#2183 [15:51] <mbentley> brought up the menu just fine when i was logged in twice
#2184 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> hrm. "good" to know I s'pose
#2185 [15:52] * DopeGhoti is just now noticing, my server is no longer announcing 'THE REPLY IS YES' when people connect
#2185 [15:53] <Casioss> http://pastebin.com/1dyBekZc
#2186 [15:53] <mbentley> close the client and reopen
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#2188 [15:56] <Casioss> the same
#2189 [15:56] <mbentley> hmm, can you bring up minecraft.net on your computer?
#2190 [15:57] <Casioss> after i klick login
#2191 [15:57] <Casioss> the load load and load
#2192 [15:57] <Casioss> than i dont connect to minecraft
#2193 [15:57] <mbentley> can you go to minecraft.net in your web browser?
#2194 [15:58] <Casioss> no
#2195 [15:58] <Casioss> i can go to this site y
#2196 [15:58] <mbentley> that would be the cause of that last error
#2197 [15:59] <Casioss> but i dont can play it in browser
#2198 [15:59] <mbentley> i know
#2199 [15:59] <mbentley> but it has to contact the site to login
#2200 [15:59] <mbentley> and it is failing
#2201 [15:59] <Casioss> ?
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#2203 [16:00] <yecki> di i wrote my pastebin link or didn't i?
#2204 [16:00] <mbentley> if you can't go to http://www.minecraft.net, then it won't work
#2205 [16:00] <yecki> sucky timing at disconnect all the time -.-
#2206 [16:00] <Casioss> i can go to www.minecraft.net
#2207 [16:01] <mbentley> just keep closing the client and open it again
#2208 [16:01] <yecki> i'll post it asecond time sry if doublepostet http://pastebin.com/5Eq7wtPY
#2209 [16:01] <mbentley> sounds like the minecraft.net server is having issues
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#2211 [16:02] <Casioss> web or which client?
#2212 [16:02] <mbentley> just the normal .exe client
#2213 [16:03] <Casioss> its normaly closed after i try to play
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#2216 [16:03] <hJulvort> anyone else here who got the login problem on their server?
#2217 [16:04] <mbentley> you mean it is closing even after you deleted the 'bin' folder?
#2218 [16:04] <Casioss> no
#2219 [16:04] <Casioss> when i lunch minecraft
#2220 [16:04] <Casioss> and login
#2221 [16:04] <Casioss> after login it closed
#2222 [16:04] <mbentley> right, but you did delete the 'bin' folder, correct?
#2223 [16:05] <Casioss> i delet it completly
#2224 [16:05] <mbentley> hmm, i really don't know what to say then
#2225 [16:05] <mbentley> i have no explanation as to why it is doing that
#2226 [16:05] <yecki> i do not as well..
#2227 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> "Windows is insane."?
#2228 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#2229 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> On a lark, try creating a new Windows user account and running Minecraft from there.
#2230 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> perhaps it's something in your profile getting in the way
#2231 [16:07] <Casioss> y but not today i g2g i must work tomorrow -.-
#2232 [16:07] <yecki> maybe.. so some ideas about my issue?
#2233 [16:07] <Casioss> thank u for help
#2234 [16:07] <mbentley> sorry yecki, what was your issue?
#2235 [16:07] <yecki> http://pastebin.com/5Eq7wtPY
#2236 [16:07] <mbentley> p
#2237 [16:07] <mbentley> *np
#2238 [16:07] <Casioss> bye
#2239 [16:07] <mbentley> oh yeah, you run your own server and keep getting that, right?
#2240 [16:07] <yecki> jup
#2241 [16:07] <yecki> thats it
#2242 [16:08] <mbentley> you might go into your world/players folder and rename your username's .dat file and then try to login
#2243 [16:08] <mbentley> it could be there is something wrong with it
#2244 [16:08] <yecki> ok mom
#2245 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> .."mom" /o\
#2246 [16:09] <mbentley> did you just call me mom or does that mean something?
#2247 [16:09] <mbentley> lol
#2248 [16:09] <Kealper> lol
#2249 [16:09] <mbentley> i must be getting older...
#2250 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> That was the first time I've ever been remotely tempted to type 'lolwut'. Ever.
#2251 [16:10] <Kealper> i was going to as well, but decided against it
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#2253 [16:11] <yecki> on my server or on my laptop and where is that file locatd :D
#2254 [16:12] <Kealper> your server, and it is in your server's world folder
#2255 [16:12] <mbentley> ^^
#2256 [16:12] <yecki> `where is that servers world folder never seen it oO
#2257 [16:12] <yecki> (mom is short for moment)
#2258 [16:12] <Kealper> it was created when you first ran the minecraft server
#2259 [16:13] <Kealper> that totally looked like you were saying the american abbriviation for mother lol
#2260 [16:13] <yecki> and that helps me at its location oO
#2261 [16:13] <mbentley> where is the .exe file
#2262 [16:13] <mbentley> that you use to start the server?
#2263 [16:13] <yecki> using the .jar in my download folder
#2264 [16:13] <mbentley> the server files will be in the same directory
#2265 [16:13] <yecki> ok the directorys real name is world?
#2266 [16:13] <mbentley> yes
#2267 [16:13] <Kealper> why does everyone just run the server out of their downloads folder -.-
#2268 [16:14] <mbentley> lol Kealper
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#2270 [16:14] <yecki> im just to lazy to do it on another place :D
#2271 [16:14] <Kealper> well...i know why, so that was rhetorical
#2272 [16:14] <ChefMon> Hey anyone help me???
#2273 [16:14] <yecki> ^^
#2274 [16:14] <yecki> whatsw your problem?
#2275 [16:14] <Kealper> ChefMon: depends
#2276 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> ChefMon: don't ask to ask; just ask :)
#2277 [16:14] <Kealper> and not the diapers
#2278 [16:14] <mbentley> yecki: just don't delete any files for the server...
#2279 [16:14] <ChefMon> I need to find a good link to a default cape...
#2280 [16:15] <Kealper> capes can not be changed right now
#2281 [16:15] <ChefMon> all the ones ive found so far are crap
#2282 [16:15] * DopeGhoti thought only Mojang employees got capes..
#2282 [16:15] <Kealper> Notch decides the cape we wear for now
#2283 [16:15] <ChefMon> orly?
#2284 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> rly.
#2285 [16:15] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: they get custom ones
#2286 [16:15] <ChefMon> danm
#2287 [16:15] <ChefMon> damn
#2288 [16:15] <ChefMon> ok
#2289 [16:15] <Kealper> everyone else gets what Notch wants us to get
#2290 [16:16] <ChefMon> anyways...
#2291 [16:16] <Kealper> and no it's not moddable into something else, because it downloads the texture from minecraft.net
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#2293 [16:21] <Kealper> hmm....i should have probably paused utorrent before packet sniffing....that is a ton of junk packets on that -.-
#2294 [16:22] <mbentley> smells like downloads
#2295 [16:24] <Kealper> 159 packets..that's more managable....it was like 3k before...lol
#2296 [16:24] * Kealper resumes utorrent
#2296 [16:25] <mbentley> haha
#2297 [16:30] <lemon-rev> how does one grow grass on dirt if its just 1 block on granit
#2298 [16:31] <xolotl> lemon-rev: You'd need to build more dirt out to an area where there *is* grass and then wait for it to spread
#2299 [16:32] <Kealper> TIL true's real name
#2300 [16:32] <lemon-rev> oh
#2301 [16:32] <lemon-rev> i see
#2302 [16:32] <xolotl> lemon-rev: There's no way to generate grass "from scratch," so to speak (without cheating, anyway)
#2303 [16:32] <lemon-rev> dammit,
#2304 [16:32] <lemon-rev> lol well thanks
#2305 [16:32] <lemon-rev> :)
#2306 [16:32] <xolotl> np, good luck
#2307 [16:32] <lemon-rev> yup
#2308 [16:32] <xolotl> It can be frustrating to wait for grass. :)
#2309 [16:32] <DrakeHiggins> eh Kealper?
#2310 [16:32] <hadhad69> indeed zolotl, indeed...
#2311 [16:33] <Kealper> DrakeHiggins: is that your real name or is that another alias? lol
#2312 [16:33] <xolotl> lemon-rev: I believe there has to be sufficient light as well, though jus some torches here and there would do.
#2313 [16:33] <xolotl> s/jus/just/
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#2315 [16:34] <lemon-rev> well
#2316 [16:34] <lemon-rev> i have 1 pice of dirt sittin in sunlight for serval days
#2317 [16:34] <Kealper> woh that's insecure as heck
#2318 [16:34] <lemon-rev> but i think you need grass near by to like get it to grow on it so yea
#2319 [16:35] <Kealper> it's so insecure that i'm not even going to say what it is in here
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#2321 [16:35] <feenyx> what is it? :D
#2322 [16:35] <DrakeHiggins> It's my real name if you'd beleave it.
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#2324 [16:37] <Kealper> lol
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#2327 [16:40] <lemon-rev> ha just came across a mini cave with crap loads of coal
#2328 [16:40] <DoomGiver> lol
#2329 [16:40] <BarryCarlyon> !check 81.151.132.13
#2330 [16:41] <lemon-rev> thats the other thing thats going to have to be increased if notch makes touchers go out, is that the amount of coal you find has to be suficant to keep you trying to survivie in the cave system
#2331 [16:42] <Guest756650186> HEY HOWCOME MY SERVER DONT SAVE?
#2332 [16:42] <Guest756650186> sorry caps
#2333 [16:42] <BarryCarlyon> What do you mean save? What is the server not doing Guest756650186 ?
#2334 [16:42] <Guest756650186> well its says it saves but not loading
#2335 [16:42] <Guest756650186> if i turn server off it resets the world
#2336 [16:43] <lemon-rev> the one your working on or a brand new one
#2337 [16:43] <BarryCarlyon> Have you tried the /save-on and /save-all commands?
#2338 [16:43] <Guest756650186> i made it a few days ago
#2339 [16:43] <Guest756650186> were do i put that at
#2340 [16:43] <BarryCarlyon> In the chat line.
#2341 [16:44] <Guest756650186> i have the sites server soft ware and MClawl
#2342 [16:44] <BarryCarlyon> Ah.
#2343 [16:44] <BarryCarlyon> I don't know what mclawl does. So can't help you.
#2344 [16:44] <Guest756650186> mclawls is also a server
#2345 [16:44] <Guest756650186> i mainly use teh sites
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#2347 [16:45] <claudis> hi folks
#2348 [16:45] <BarryCarlyon> Hi.
#2349 [16:45] <Guest756650186> and to make it worse its saying unknown camand
#2350 [16:45] <Guest756650186> when i type /save-on and with /save on
#2351 [16:46] <BarryCarlyon> On console or chat line? Are you the server op?
#2352 [16:46] <Guest756650186> im the owner im the main op
#2353 [16:46] <claudis> anyone have any idea why my port keeps saying it's closed although i've setup port forward, tried port triggering and dmz without any luck. i've even made a rule on windows firewall incase that blocked the connection. minecraft server works ok without the router but not with it :(
#2354 [16:47] <BarryCarlyon> Guest756650186: are you in the ops.txt file?
#2355 [16:47] <Guest756650186> yes
#2356 [16:47] <BarryCarlyon> claudis: your ISP blocks.
#2357 [16:47] <BarryCarlyon> Perhaps.
#2358 [16:47] <BarryCarlyon> O works without the router.
#2359 [16:47] <BarryCarlyon> How odd.
#2360 [16:47] <claudis> i've even updated my router firmware from the crappy dlink to dd-wrt firmware without any luck still
#2361 [16:48] <claudis> i'm pulling my eyes out lol
#2362 [16:48] <BarryCarlyon> You sending your open port to the right IP?
#2363 [16:48] <lemon-rev> can someone join your server if your not useing the router
#2364 [16:48] <claudis> yup
#2365 [16:48] <BarryCarlyon> yup to who?
#2366 [16:49] <claudis> i've even tried setting up a static ip via tcp/ipv4 on windows aswell as trying the router
#2367 [16:49] <claudis> yeah my friend could join when the routers out
#2368 [16:50] <lemon-rev> then it has to be router but if you got your settings correct on it, then its being stupid lol
#2369 [16:50] <claudis> the client works great tbh. i just can't understand why it won't happen for me lol
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#2371 [16:51] <DoomGiver> you kealper are you here?
#2372 [16:51] <ViralHatred> Hey, I uh. Have a question. Not sure you guys can help though.
#2373 [16:51] <DoomGiver> yo*
#2374 [16:51] <lemon-rev> ViralHatred whats your question
#2375 [16:51] <DoomGiver> I might be able to help :D what is on? other then minecraft lol
#2376 [16:52] <Kealper> sorta...chick stole my pc right now, can't talk lol
#2377 [16:52] <BarryCarlyon> claudis: you sure your gettin the port forward correct, you need the ip of the server machine as well as the port.
#2378 [16:52] <ViralHatred> Basically when I bought MC many eons ago I used my current email. Since we're no longer on that ISP anymore the email is now defunct and unsable. As the change email function is disabled, how can I change this?
#2379 [16:52] <DoomGiver> oh lol. Just wante dto let you know your subway is broken agian. IDK if you know but It won't boost int he main station
#2380 [16:52] <claudis> i know that barry :)
#2381 [16:52] <BarryCarlyon> Just checking :-D
#2382 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> ViralHatred: email payments@mojang.com with your paypal confirmation number and request an updated email address
#2383 [16:53] <claudis> i setup routers all day at work. i'd never live it down if i got that wrong :P
#2384 [16:53] <DoomGiver> beat me to it....
#2385 [16:53] <ViralHatred> Oh boy, I don't think paypal even remembers the transaction from several years ago.
#2386 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> ViralHatred: you should have a complete transaciton history. I still have records from 1997.
#2387 [16:53] <claudis> i just can't think of anything else i can do.
#2388 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> claudis: what IP?
#2389 [16:54] <claudis> thought you super nerds would be worth a try :)
#2390 [16:54] <claudis> my ipv4 address is 192.168.1.143
#2391 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> that's no help to us
#2392 [16:55] * DopeGhoti thought you set routers up all day at work
#2392 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> you should know this
#2393 [16:55] <claudis> wan ip is 92.237.205.105
#2394 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> thanks
#2395 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> !check 92.237.205.105
#2396 [16:55] <ViralHatred> Ah, okay, raiding paypal now.
#2397 [16:55] <claudis> i said i set them up i didn't say i knew what i was doing really :P
#2398 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> is the MC server presently up?
#2399 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> *snrk* fair 'nuff
#2400 [16:56] <claudis> not atm want me to load it
#2401 [16:56] <ViralHatred> "Payment To Mojang Specifications" Yeah?
#2402 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> ViralHatred: sounds promising
#2403 [16:57] <ViralHatred> -€9.95 EUR
#2404 [16:57] <ViralHatred> Was cheaper back then :D
#2405 [16:57] <ViralHatred> Waaay back in Jun 09.
#2406 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> "hey, that's the same amount I paid!"
#2407 [16:57] <DoomGiver> Lol. :D I thinks thats what I bought it for too. yay for alpha!
#2408 [16:57] <ViralHatred> I bought it for the Alpha too. I did the same for NS2.
#2409 [16:57] <ViralHatred> Investments usually pay off :D
#2410 [16:57] <claudis> 92.237.205.105 yup. ubr-16-uddi just up the road
#2411 [16:57] <DoomGiver> :D
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#2414 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> claudis: is that your way of saying it's up now?
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#2416 [16:58] <Kealper> annnnd.....i'm back
#2417 [16:59] <claudis> sorry it is up :)
#2418 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> I thought you were Kealper.
#2419 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> !check 92.237.205.105
#2420 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> claudis: anything in the server log?
#2421 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> claudis: in the server.properties, have you specified the IP? (If so: don't)
#2422 [16:59] <claudis> i haven't :)
#2423 [17:00] <claudis> all that is in the server log is Claudis [/127.0.0.1:55815] logged in with entity id 2917 lol atleast my loopback address is working :P
#2424 [17:00] <claudis> rawr!!
#2425 [17:01] <claudis> sorry
#2426 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> claudis: so your server-ip= line has nothing after the '=' glyph?
#2427 [17:01] <kaskull69> people some one can help me with plugins?
#2428 [17:01] <kaskull69> :S
#2429 [17:02] <claudis> i was told to leave that blank
#2430 [17:02] <lemon-rev> kaskull69 ask that question in #minecraft
#2431 [17:02] <lemon-rev> not in here
#2432 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> claudis: as well you should have; I was just checking
#2433 [17:02] <claudis> thx
#2434 [17:02] <kaskull69> some one can help me about installing plugins?
#2435 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> kaskull69: again: not in here.
#2436 [17:03] <lemon-rev> wtf
#2437 [17:03] <kaskull69> sorry
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#2439 [17:03] <claudis> i donno if it could be this router. it has gone from the dlink firmware to the dd-wrt hacked firmware today just because this issue continues
#2440 [17:03] <kaskull69> wich was the chanel?
#2441 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> claudis: and you're certain you're forwarding the correct TCP port to the correct internal IP?
#2442 [17:03] <lemon-rev> kaskull69 ask that question in #minecraft
#2443 [17:03] <claudis> i am mate really i am :(
#2444 [17:04] <claudis> want me to enable remote access to the router and you can have a butchers for yourself?
#2445 [17:04] <ViralHatred> Sent a email to payments.
#2446 [17:04] <ViralHatred> Cheers for the help!
#2447 [17:05] <claudis> i donno if my router is borked.
#2448 [17:06] <claudis> brb i gonna just powercycle it all again. if in doubt try "switching it off and back on again" :D
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#2452 [17:10] <Hammerfan> Does anyone know the base link to look at someone's skin?
#2453 [17:11] <xolotl> Hammerfan: http://minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=xolotl
#2454 [17:11] <xolotl> (for instance)
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#2457 [17:12] <Hammerfan> Thank you very much
#2458 [17:12] <claudis> damn i think it is my dlink.
#2459 [17:12] <claudis> anyone want a cracked dlink lmao
#2460 [17:12] <Hammerfan> Well darn
#2461 [17:12] <claudis> fudge
#2462 [17:12] <AppleII> Does anyone know why a server doesn't work online when it works locally and I manually set port fowardIng?
#2463 [17:12] <lemon-rev> how about you take it out side and like throw it agesnt the wall or somethng lol
#2464 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> AppleII: <3 your nick :)
#2465 [17:13] <Hammerfan> My account HAS been hacked, my account's skin is different form what it used to be...
#2466 [17:13] <AppleII> thanks
#2467 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> Hammerfan: chanage your password.
#2468 [17:13] <Hammerfan> And i didnt change it
#2469 [17:13] <lemon-rev> appleii whats your ip your useing for online
#2470 [17:13] <Kealper> yea, i lol'd when i seen it yesterday lol
#2471 [17:13] <claudis> apple you aren't using a dlink router with dd-wrt running are you lmao
#2472 [17:13] <lemon-rev> and are you runnning it now
#2473 [17:13] <lemon-rev> hahahahha
#2474 [17:13] <Hammerfan> That is te problem, my pass word has laready been changed
#2475 [17:14] <Hammerfan> I couldnt log in, so I wanted to use the skinviewer to make sure
#2476 [17:14] <AppleII> Well what happens on any computer is it tries to connect for a while and then times out.
#2477 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> Hammerfan: email payments@mojang.com explaining the problem, and when/if you get your account back, don't use 'password' as your password.
#2478 [17:14] <AppleII> No linksys
#2479 [17:14] <Kealper> or 12345
#2480 [17:14] <claudis> wait. "runs off to change password"!
#2481 [17:14] <Hammerfan> my pass owrd wasnt password, but I admit it was obvious
#2482 [17:15] <claudis> abc123?
#2483 [17:15] <Hammerfan> thanks you
#2484 [17:15] <claudis> welcome1?
#2485 [17:15] <claudis> qwerty?
#2486 [17:15] <claudis> am i getting warm?
#2487 [17:16] <claudis> thanks for all the support dope. i think this is what i get for fishing a router out of the reject bin :)
#2488 [17:17] <lemon-rev> its not what you get its what you didnt get lol
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#2490 [17:18] <claudis> brb dog wants a pee
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#2492 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> claudis: sorry your router died :p
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#2494 [17:28] <claudis> :)
#2495 [17:29] <fogwraith> Shitshit, creepers outside my hovel
#2496 [17:29] <claudis> i have two nic's so i'll cheat and setup internet connection sharing. a little ass backwards but this computers always switched on :)
#2497 [17:30] <claudis> QQ
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#2499 [17:32] <fogwraith> Aw, and now there are creepers AND spiders
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#2501 [17:32] <gretchen> ok so downloaded java and it says that pixel form is not accelerated and minecraft cant start, i didnt buy it just playing it off the site
#2502 [17:32] <fogwraith> Update java / graphics drivers
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#2504 [17:33] <gretchen> can i do that without paying for anything off the java site?
#2505 [17:33] <fogwraith> Yeah
#2506 [17:34] <[1]claudis> send me 20 bucks via paypal and i'll tell ya
#2507 [17:34] <[1]claudis> :P
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#2509 [17:34] <gretchen> is it on the site?
#2510 [17:34] <gretchen> java site that is
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#2515 [18:02] <AznMadness> *pokes anyone that is around*
#2516 [18:03] <Cial> hmmmm
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#2518 [18:03] <AznMadness> i know how to make a bat file, but i am unsure of what to put to run a server. what should i put in the file?
#2519 [18:06] <Kealper> http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=Kealper does this look good? lol
#2520 [18:07] <AznMadness> anyone?
#2521 [18:07] <Kealper> AznMadness: java -xmx1024m -xms1024m -jar minecraft_server.jar
#2522 [18:08] <Cial> not bad Kealper
#2523 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> I wish that I could pick up arrows that others shoot
#2524 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> I get shot at a lot with my skin :)
#2525 [18:11] <Kealper> lol
#2526 [18:11] <Kealper> http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=Thoatt is the other skin, he's the other op on my server lol
#2527 [18:13] <Cial> i notice a theme with the jumpsuits
#2528 [18:13] <Kealper> they're the two people for Daft Punk lol
#2529 [18:17] <Cial> ohhhh
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#2532 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> todo: Kraftwerk skin
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#2537 [18:35] <ViralHatred> Hello again.
#2538 [18:35] <ViralHatred> Just wondering, how can I give my server an ip?
#2539 [18:35] <lemon-rev> hm
#2540 [18:35] <lemon-rev> your server should be with your ip your isp gives you
#2541 [18:35] <lemon-rev> so
#2542 [18:35] <lemon-rev> whatsmyip.org is the site you get your server ip from
#2543 [18:35] <ViralHatred> cheers
#2544 [18:36] <lemon-rev> thats the one you use and others use to connect to it
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#2546 [18:37] <ViralHatred> Okay
#2547 [18:37] <ViralHatred> That didn't help
#2548 [18:37] <ViralHatred> Says "connection refused: connect"
#2549 [18:38] <lemon-rev> hm
#2550 [18:38] <lemon-rev> ok
#2551 [18:38] <lemon-rev> whats the ip you have for your port forward
#2552 [18:39] <lemon-rev> and whats the ip your trying to connect to like your whatsmyip.org thingi
#2553 [18:39] <ViralHatred> 90.203.90.252 < is the IP it's giving my. My router uses the default router IP of 192.168.0.1
#2554 [18:39] <lemon-rev> !check 90.203.90.252
#2555 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: the extra space doesn't throw AuBot off, does it?
#2556 [18:40] <lemon-rev> ok the router ip is correct but when you port forward
#2557 [18:40] <Kealper> probably
#2558 [18:40] <lemon-rev> whats the internal ip of your pc, start / run / cmd / ipconfig
#2559 [18:40] <Kealper> i don't think i added whitespace stripping to that command
#2560 [18:41] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#2561 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: also, you should have different messages for timeout and for connection refused; that would be helpful in this sort of troubleshoot. (also, has Minecraft paid for Chuck Norris yet? (: )
#2562 [18:41] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i could do that some other time, and no i didn't add that lol
#2563 [18:42] <ViralHatred> 192.168.0.5 is what it's giving me.
#2564 [18:42] <ViralHatred> I closed the server and added the whatsmyip.org ip to the server ip and tried booting.
#2565 [18:42] <ViralHatred> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.1_02
#2566 [18:42] <lemon-rev> ok so you put that into your router when you port forward it to 25565
#2567 [18:42] <ViralHatred> [INFO] Loading properties
#2568 [18:42] <ViralHatred> [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on 90.203.90.252:25565
#2569 [18:42] <ViralHatred> [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#2570 [18:42] <ViralHatred> [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind
#2571 [18:42] <ViralHatred> [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#2572 [18:43] <ViralHatred> okay
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#2574 [18:43] <lemon-rev> hm
#2575 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> ViralHatred: you didn't alter the server-ip= line in server.properties, did you?
#2576 [18:43] <Xerati> are you behind a router?
#2577 [18:43] <lemon-rev> i belive so xerati he is
#2578 [18:43] <Xerati> then he won't be able to do what he just tried
#2579 [18:43] <ViralHatred> And great, some pain has gone and changed the router pass.
#2580 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> ViralHatred: you should leave that blank.
#2581 [18:43] <Xerati> it uses the ip locally to bind to the right interface
#2582 [18:44] <Xerati> leave it blank or 0.0.0.0
#2583 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> (all together now! (: )
#2584 [18:44] <ViralHatred> Great.
#2585 [18:45] <ViralHatred> And as typical it's quarter 2 midnight and I've no clue where the documentation is.
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#2587 [18:45] <cfdpipeman> If I start a local MC server in a windows environment and later wanted to change it to linux would I be able to import my world to the linux server?
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#2589 [18:46] <BarryCarlyon> yes
#2590 [18:46] <etalon> hello
#2591 [18:46] <Corporal_Dirge> ViralHatred, Are you running Linux?
#2592 [18:46] <lemon-rev> viral what sorta router is
#2593 [18:46] <lemon-rev> it
#2594 [18:46] <cfdpipeman> Thanks BC
#2595 [18:46] <BarryCarlyon> np :-D
#2596 [18:46] <ViralHatred> Sky
#2597 [18:46] <lemon-rev> im not going to ask how you got that nick etalon but if you have question state it please
#2598 [18:46] <etalon> is anyone here familiar with so called traps as to farm mobs? I have created one but for some reason, the items that it should deliver arent deliver, I dont know if they are possibly burned up by the lava?
#2599 [18:47] <lemon-rev> hm, depends on how you have made your trap
#2600 [18:47] <ViralHatred> wayhay
#2601 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> etalon: if you're killint with lava, yes; taht burns items
#2602 [18:47] <Cial> etalon, probably
#2603 [18:47] <lemon-rev> and if its going into lava then yes its going to be swallowed up by the lava
#2604 [18:47] <ViralHatred> Someone reset it to default pass
#2605 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> Ellie: you need to drown them with water.
#2606 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> erm, etalon not Ellie sorry.
#2607 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> tabfail :/
#2608 [18:48] <lemon-rev> ok get the exact number of your router and what it is and lets see if we can find manual for it online
#2609 [18:49] <Satsugai> hmm there are guides on the net where they kill the mobs with lava held up by ladders
#2610 [18:49] <Satsugai> and it seems to work on pigs
#2611 [18:49] <Satsugai> but no other mobs yet
#2612 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> that sounds over-engineered.
#2613 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> and overcomplez
#2614 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> (lava creates light; mobs need dark to spawn.. dark room + drowning pit + current to swag collector seems the easiest way to fly to me
#2615 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> )
#2616 [18:50] <Satsugai> im using an enormous flow of water from around my base through a big underground canal to reach the lava
#2617 [18:50] <Satsugai> therefor its not needed they spawn
#2618 [18:50] <Satsugai> its needed they fall into my watertrap
#2619 [18:50] <Satsugai> whih they do
#2620 [18:50] <Satsugai> I see em floating away all the time
#2621 [18:51] <Satsugai> and pigs actually deliver their nice little hams
#2622 [18:51] <Satsugai> I have enormously much hams
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#2627 [18:57] <ThePenguinDeveloper> so we can;t ask questions about mods here?
#2628 [18:57] <Tgon> hey guys, I've just installed Minecraft and want to install the mo' creatures mod. The walkthrough says to put them in the minecraft.jar but the new version of Minecraft has two versions. minecraft.jar and minecraft-1.1_02.jar do you know which of these I should edit please?
#2629 [18:58] <hadhad69> minecraft.jar
#2630 [18:58] <NeoAngle> make backups and try it
#2631 [18:58] <ThePenguinDeveloper> can we ask questions about mods here?
#2632 [18:58] <Kealper> uhh.....thisis one of those things that if you don't know you should not be doing it, because you will probably do it to the wrong one and break your game
#2633 [18:59] <ThePenguinDeveloper> mods?
#2634 [18:59] <ThePenguinDeveloper> for servers?
#2635 [18:59] <Kealper> ThePenguinDeveloper: you can try, but it probably won't get an answer
#2636 [18:59] <ThePenguinDeveloper> ok
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#2638 [19:10] <Jakob> okay
#2639 [19:10] <Jakob> hi
#2640 [19:10] <Jakob> can anyone help me?
#2641 [19:10] <lemon-rev> depends
#2642 [19:10] <lemon-rev> we dont know what you want
#2643 [19:10] <lemon-rev> lol
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#2645 [19:10] <Jakob> so I have been trying to set up a server
#2646 [19:11] <Jakob> and I am forwarding the port and everything but no one can connect
#2647 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> what happens when they try?
#2648 [19:11] <lemon-rev> whats the ip
#2649 [19:11] <Jakob> Failed to connect to server - Connection refused: connect
#2650 [19:11] <Jakob> I will PM youj
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#2652 [19:11] <lemon-rev> if you must
#2653 [19:11] <lemon-rev> but
#2654 [19:11] <lemon-rev> checking it
#2655 [19:11] <Jakob> yaeh
#2656 [19:12] <lemon-rev> ok thats a
#2657 [19:12] <lemon-rev> hm, its not an ip adress is it
#2658 [19:12] <lemon-rev> its like a dns
#2659 [19:12] <lemon-rev> or somethng
#2660 [19:12] <Jakob> yeah that's a dns
#2661 [19:12] <lemon-rev> dopeghoti do yu know about dns that word for ip thing
#2662 [19:12] <Jakob> well.. I am familiar with using DNS's
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#2664 [19:15] <lemon-rev> ok
#2665 [19:15] <lemon-rev> !check
#2666 [19:15] <lemon-rev> 96.25.96.110
#2667 [19:15] <Jakob> !check 96.25.96.110
#2668 [19:15] <lemon-rev> ok so
#2669 [19:15] <lemon-rev> that ip isnt responding
#2670 [19:15] <Jakob> hmm
#2671 [19:15] <Jakob> how do I fix that?
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#2673 [19:15] <lemon-rev> have you a firewall
#2674 [19:15] <Jakob> indeed
#2675 [19:16] <Jakob> let me turn it off
#2676 [19:16] <lemon-rev> have you tryed checking it to see if its blocking minecraft.exe
#2677 [19:16] <lemon-rev> ok
#2678 [19:16] <Jakob> how do I check that?
#2679 [19:16] <lemon-rev> what os are you running
#2680 [19:16] <Jakob> !check 96.25.96.110
#2681 [19:16] <Jakob> windows 7
#2682 [19:16] <lemon-rev> anyone ????
#2683 [19:17] <Jakob> let me try adding a rule for minecraft.exe
#2684 [19:17] <Jakob> wait, is it the server? or the program
#2685 [19:17] <Jakob> caues the server is running fine
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#2687 [19:17] <Jakob> it's just the port can't be found
#2688 [19:18] <lemon-rev> correct
#2689 [19:18] <lemon-rev> but
#2690 [19:18] <lemon-rev> the port needs to be forwarded correctly
#2691 [19:18] <lemon-rev> if its not then its not going to pass
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#2693 [19:18] <Jakob> right
#2694 [19:19] <lemon-rev> but if the firewall or even your virus scanner is blocking it
#2695 [19:19] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/ef933b9b.png
#2696 [19:19] <lemon-rev> then, then it wont work cause it trys to connect to minecrat.net to get its settings
#2697 [19:19] <Jakob> what should the application be set to?
#2698 [19:19] <Jakob> and the start/end ?
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#2700 [19:20] <Jakob> !check 96.25.96.110
#2701 [19:20] <Jakob> hmm
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#2703 [19:20] <lemon-rev> where it says application try typeing in minecraft instead of java
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#2705 [19:21] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/7b5e80a4.png
#2706 [19:21] <Jakob> the port isn't forwarding at all
#2707 [19:21] <Jakob> and I changed the application
#2708 [19:23] <Jakob> anything?
#2709 [19:23] <lemon-rev> hm
#2710 [19:24] <lemon-rev> sorry was saying good bye to someone else here
#2711 [19:24] <lemon-rev> anyways
#2712 [19:24] <Jakob> okay
#2713 [19:24] <lemon-rev> that png how you get it to say that
#2714 [19:24] <Jakob> what do you mean
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#2716 [19:25] <lemon-rev> hm
#2717 [19:25] <Jakob> it was a screenshot
#2718 [19:25] <lemon-rev> oh, just a matter of how you get that to say it but , nothing important
#2719 [19:26] <Jakob> I have no idea what to do..
#2720 [19:26] <lemon-rev> hm, if its not port forwarding
#2721 [19:26] <lemon-rev> have you tryed to stright connect to pc from modem ?
#2722 [19:27] <Jakob> um when my cousin was over he could connect to my internal ip address
#2723 [19:27] <Jakob> 192.168.1.100
#2724 [19:27] <Jakob> which is local only
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#2726 [19:27] <lemon-rev> was that via cable ?
#2727 [19:27] <Jakob> wifi
#2728 [19:27] <lemon-rev> ok
#2729 [19:27] <Jakob> but no one outside of my home network can connect, obviously
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#2732 [19:27] <Jakob> and that's why the IP adderss the port is forwarding to is .100
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#2734 [19:27] <lemon-rev> yup
#2735 [19:28] <GenMcBeckson> Hey, after beta, nobody can join my server anymore.
#2736 [19:28] <GenMcBeckson> It always gives them Connection Refused: Connect
#2737 [19:28] <Jakob> mine too!!!
#2738 [19:28] <GenMcBeckson> :-/
#2739 [19:28] <Jakob> We are trying to fix it right now
#2740 [19:28] <lemon-rev> maybe one of these other guys can help you jackob but im mystified by why
#2741 [19:28] <lemon-rev> your having that trouble
#2742 [19:28] <GenMcBeckson> Yeah, it was working fine before beta.
#2743 [19:28] <Jakob> I never tried before beta
#2744 [19:28] <lemon-rev> k
#2745 [19:29] <lemon-rev> gen what ip you useing
#2746 [19:29] <eight-zero-one> using*
#2747 [19:29] <lemon-rev> whatnot
#2748 [19:29] <GenMcBeckson> The variable in Server Props is blank, I give people my external
#2749 [19:29] <lemon-rev> dont care for spelling atm
#2750 [19:29] <lemon-rev> are they inside your house
#2751 [19:29] <lemon-rev> ?
#2752 [19:29] <Jakob> Gen, they can't connect from the external URL
#2753 [19:29] <Jakob> that's for classic only I think
#2754 [19:29] <GenMcBeckson> external IP?
#2755 [19:30] <Jakob> oh
#2756 [19:30] <GenMcBeckson> ^ what I meant
#2757 [19:30] <Jakob> nevermind
#2758 [19:30] <Jakob> okay
#2759 [19:30] <lemon-rev> external ip , start / run/ cmd / ipconfig
#2760 [19:30] <GenMcBeckson> i know it
#2761 [19:30] <GenMcBeckson> and it used to work
#2762 [19:30] <lemon-rev> your ip from isp is whatsmyip.org
#2763 [19:30] <GenMcBeckson> yes, that is what I am using
#2764 [19:30] <lemon-rev> your ip is what you should be giving others and connect to it
#2765 [19:30] <GenMcBeckson> believe be, I know how it SHOULD work, it just isnt.
#2766 [19:30] <Jakob> ip.ztecnet.net is a good site
#2767 [19:31] <GenMcBeckson> believe me*
#2768 [19:31] <Jakob> same here
#2769 [19:31] <Jakob> people can connect locally
#2770 [19:31] <lemon-rev> gen
#2771 [19:31] <Jakob> just not outside
#2772 [19:31] <lemon-rev> !check
#2773 [19:31] <Jakob> !check mc.redzero.net
#2774 [19:31] <GenMcBeckson> ?
#2775 [19:31] <Jakob> can it check dns's?
#2776 [19:31] <lemon-rev> get your ip adress
#2777 [19:31] <lemon-rev> and check
#2778 [19:31] <lemon-rev> your ip
#2779 [19:31] <Jakob> http://ip.ztecnet.net/
#2780 [19:32] <lemon-rev> jakob i dont think so
#2781 [19:32] <GenMcBeckson> do the !check command?
#2782 [19:32] <Jakob> what?
#2783 [19:32] <Jakob> oh
#2784 [19:32] <lemon-rev> thats why i got your ip from pinging your dns
#2785 [19:32] <Jakob> the bot
#2786 [19:32] <Jakob> yeah
#2787 [19:32] <Jakob> right
#2788 [19:32] <lemon-rev> yea
#2789 [19:32] <lemon-rev> k
#2790 [19:32] <GenMcBeckson> !check 67.149.195.238
#2791 [19:32] <Jakob> /dns dns.host.lsg
#2792 [19:32] <GenMcBeckson> -_-
#2793 [19:33] <Jakob> same thing for me gen
#2794 [19:33] <lemon-rev> gen you have firewall or antivirus software that might be blocking it ?
#2795 [19:33] <Jakob> I have no idea what to do....
#2796 [19:33] <GenMcBeckson> nope
#2797 [19:33] <Jakob> It's making me mad
#2798 [19:33] <GenMcBeckson> its all open
#2799 [19:33] <lemon-rev> can you take screen of your routers portforwarding ?
#2800 [19:34] <GenMcBeckson> I suppose?
#2801 [19:34] <lemon-rev> i wanta check its ok thats all
#2802 [19:34] <GenMcBeckson> You mean, just the list.... How do you mean?
#2803 [19:34] <Jakob> like this
#2804 [19:34] <Jakob> .
#2805 [19:34] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/a841c922.png
#2806 [19:35] <GenMcBeckson> I see
#2807 [19:38] <Jakob> I have no idea....
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#2812 [19:44] <hJulvort> !check 83.233.222.16
#2813 [19:45] <hJulvort> !check 83.233.222.16
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#2815 [19:48] <hJulvort> have to agree with the bot, it looks real fine
#2816 [19:48] <hJulvort> except when somone trys to connect!!!!!
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#2818 [19:49] <mbentley> what sorts of problems are you seeing hJulvort?
#2819 [19:49] <Kealper> the bot only connects to the server, it does not actually try to log in a character
#2820 [19:50] <Kealper> although that would be cool as heck if it did lol
#2821 [19:50] <hJulvort> yes
#2822 [19:50] <hJulvort> the problem comes when the login happens
#2823 [19:51] <hJulvort> players that connect to my server can not go past the "login" text
#2824 [19:51] <Kealper> hJulvort: what happens when they stay at the login screen for too long? crash?
#2825 [19:53] <hJulvort> Connection lost
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#2827 [19:53] <Kealper> is there a "externalurl.txt" in your server's folder
#2828 [20:01] <GenMcBeckson> !check 67.149.195.238
#2829 [20:01] <Jakob> !check 96.25.96.110
#2830 [20:01] <Jakob> O_O
#2831 [20:02] <Jakob> um...
#2832 [20:02] * GenMcBeckson slaps AuBot.
#2832 [20:02] <Jakob> !check 96.25.96.110
#2833 [20:02] <Jakob> DLFSjadl;skfj;DKLFS;jlkadsladfs;lads;fjkldsfadsfjl;kdcpf8oDFISlkjad;fsoiuadsofiaklfhjkl
#2834 [20:02] <Jakob> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
#2835 [20:03] <Jakob> is there an op here that can help me?
#2836 [20:03] <mbentley> no an op but do you have a problem?
#2837 [20:03] <Jakob> yeah, I'm trying to set up my server and I'm having problems with my port forwarding
#2838 [20:03] <Jakob> I get the error Connection Refused: connect
#2839 [20:04] <GenMcBeckson> Same
#2840 [20:04] <GenMcBeckson> People get that when connecting to my server.
#2841 [20:04] <Jakob> I *AM* forwarding my port
#2842 [20:04] <Jakob> and I *DO* have a static IP set up
#2843 [20:04] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/f96d54d0.png
#2844 [20:05] <Xerati> ipconfig still shows .100?
#2845 [20:05] <mbentley> do you have a software firewall on your computer?
#2846 [20:05] <Xerati> ^^my next question
#2847 [20:05] <Jakob> um
#2848 [20:05] <Jakob> firewall is off
#2849 [20:05] <Jakob> also,
#2850 [20:05] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/4a572db2.png
#2851 [20:05] <Xerati> yeah, that's useful?
#2852 [20:05] <mbentley> can't see anything
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#2854 [20:06] <Jakob> hmm, windows blocks it for some reason
#2855 [20:06] <hJulvort> sry, got disconnected
#2856 [20:06] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/17023652.png
#2857 [20:06] <mbentley> hJulvort: did you see 19:53 <@Kealper> is there a "externalurl.txt" in your server's folder
#2858 [20:06] <Jakob> k
#2859 [20:06] <Jakob> there http://www.redzero.net/grabs/17023652.png
#2860 [20:07] <mbentley> ip looks fine then
#2861 [20:07] <Jakob> so yeah, I have a static IP set up and I am forwarding the port
#2862 [20:07] <mbentley> do you have any internet security applications running?
#2863 [20:07] <Jakob> mm
#2864 [20:07] <Jakob> not that I know of
#2865 [20:07] <hJulvort> Kealper: no i dont have that txt in my foulder, should I have one?
#2866 [20:07] <hJulvort> folder*
#2867 [20:08] <mbentley> he was just curious if you were running a 'classic' server instead of beta
#2868 [20:08] <hJulvort> no it's beta
#2869 [20:08] <mbentley> Jakob: can you verify that the firewall is disabled?
#2870 [20:08] <Jakob> sure can
#2871 [20:08] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/23ef02f4.png
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#2873 [20:09] <mbentley> hmm
#2874 [20:09] <Jakob> you can try to connect for yourself, mc.redzero.net:25565
#2875 [20:10] <Jakob> and I can connect to localhost:25565
#2876 [20:10] <Talgie> I have a minecraft server and suddenly everyone got kicked from it and no one can connect unless they r on my network. I know my ip hasn't changed, anyone have any idea?
#2877 [20:10] <Jakob> just not through my IP oir the dns
#2878 [20:10] <Jakob> talgie did the server overload?
#2879 [20:11] <Talgie> no i restarted it and even my computer
#2880 [20:11] <Jakob> hmm
#2881 [20:11] <Jakob> mbentley any ideas?
#2882 [20:11] <Talgie> i checked my firewalls and anti virus's as well
#2883 [20:12] <hJulvort> Jakob, do the get stuck on login for you aswell?
#2884 [20:12] <Jakob> what do you mean?
#2885 [20:12] <Talgie> nope
#2886 [20:12] <Jakob> I am getting an error saying connection refused: connect
#2887 [20:12] <Talgie> all computers on my local network can connect
#2888 [20:12] <mbentley> hmm, strange
#2889 [20:12] <Talgie> but only them
#2890 [20:12] <Jakob> my port isn't forwarding
#2891 [20:12] <Jakob> but I AM forwarding it
#2892 [20:12] <mbentley> do you successfully have any other ports forwarded?
#2893 [20:13] <mbentley> like for anything else?
#2894 [20:13] <Jakob> I don't.
#2895 [20:13] <Jakob> I have forwarded ports before
#2896 [20:13] <Jakob> for ventrilo when i used to use it
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#2898 [20:13] <mbentley> maybe try to change your minecraft port to 80 temporarily
#2899 [20:13] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/79e3015f.png
#2900 [20:14] <Jakob> how do I change it in the conf?
#2901 [20:14] <mbentley> in server.properties
#2902 [20:14] <Jakob> yeah
#2903 [20:14] <mbentley> you'll see it
#2904 [20:14] <Jakob> well
#2905 [20:14] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/daf66d46.png
#2906 [20:14] <mbentley> server-port=
#2907 [20:15] <Jakob> I read on a forum to leave thoes blank or it would restrict it
#2908 [20:15] <Jakob> or something similar to that
#2909 [20:15] <mbentley> hmm
#2910 [20:15] <Jakob> for now should I try server-port=25565 ?
#2911 [20:15] <mbentley> that isn't true
#2912 [20:15] <Jakob> well.. that won't do anything
#2913 [20:15] <Jakob> cause the port isn't forawrding
#2914 [20:15] <Jakob> so server-ip= ?
#2915 [20:15] <Jakob> and server-port= ?
#2916 [20:15] <Jakob> should I change them?
#2917 [20:16] <mbentley> server-ip=192.168.1.100
#2918 [20:16] <Jakob> k
#2919 [20:16] <Jakob> and 25565
#2920 [20:16] <Jakob> okay updated and restarted server
#2921 [20:16] <Jakob> doesn't fix the problem that the port still isn't forwarding
#2922 [20:16] <mbentley> still nothing
#2923 [20:17] <mbentley> try port 80 then
#2924 [20:17] <Jakob> k its on 80
#2925 [20:17] <Jakob> do I need to forward that?
#2926 [20:17] <mbentley> yeah, just update that entry
#2927 [20:18] <Jakob> so when I'm forwarding it, what is the start/end ?
#2928 [20:18] <mbentley> 80/80
#2929 [20:18] <Jakob> okay
#2930 [20:18] <mbentley> if you are only forwarding a single port, you just put it twice
#2931 [20:18] <Jakob> alright
#2932 [20:18] <hJulvort> if I change my server-ip= i cant even start the server
#2933 [20:19] <mbentley> you probably aren't putting in the right ip address
#2934 [20:19] <Jakob> does the name matter?
#2935 [20:19] <Jakob> application name
#2936 [20:19] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/4276291b.png
#2937 [20:19] <Jakob> what do you mean?
#2938 [20:19] <Jakob> I got that Ip from cmd
#2939 [20:19] <Jakob> ipconfig
#2940 [20:19] <mbentley> nope, shouldn't. maybe try setting the protocol to 'tcp'
#2941 [20:19] <mbentley> sorry, was talking to hJulvort
#2942 [20:19] <Jakob> oh okay
#2943 [20:19] <mbentley> but it should still work...
#2944 [20:19] <Jakob> and k switched it to TCP
#2945 [20:20] <Jakob> now it just says Loggin in...
#2946 [20:20] <mbentley> odd that it isn't working
#2947 [20:20] <Jakob> and doesn't do anything
#2948 [20:20] <mbentley> ok, you can change it back to the original port #
#2949 [20:20] <Jakob> weird
#2950 [20:20] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/573c05e3.png
#2951 [20:20] <mbentley> was just making sure it wasn't blocked for some reason
#2952 [20:20] <Jakob> yeah
#2953 [20:20] <hJulvort> then u got same as me :p
#2954 [20:21] <Jakob> k it's back to original port
#2955 [20:21] <Jakob> and now I'm getting connection refused again
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#2958 [20:22] <Jakob> no idea what to do now...
#2959 [20:23] <mbentley> i'm not really sure besides looking at what all is installed just to make sure there isn't some sort of firewall
#2960 [20:24] <Jakob> I have teamviewer, if you are willing.
#2961 [20:24] <mbentley> if you have another pc on your network, could you try to connect to your server from that using 192.168.1.100 ?
#2962 [20:25] <Jakob> yeah my cousin was over and he could connect to 192.168.1.100
#2963 [20:25] <ConMan8> local IP
#2964 [20:25] <ConMan8> Huh
#2965 [20:25] <Jakob> like a week ago
#2966 [20:25] <mbentley> ok, then you don't have a local firewall blocking it...
#2967 [20:25] <Jakob> mhm
#2968 [20:25] <mbentley> you sure that your external ip address hasn't changed?
#2969 [20:25] * ConMan8 huhs
#2969 [20:26] <Jakob> how could it have been?
#2970 [20:26] <Jakob> http://ip.ztecnet.net/
#2971 [20:26] <Jakob> same thing as the DNS is set to
#2972 [20:26] <mbentley> well that will just show me mine ;)
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#2974 [20:26] <Jakob> I know :P
#2975 [20:26] <Jakob> I'm saying It's valid for me
#2976 [20:26] <mbentley> oh gotcha :p
#2977 [20:26] <Jakob> in my case ^
#2978 [20:26] <mbentley> haha
#2979 [20:27] <ConMan8> ?
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#2981 [20:27] <ConMan8> !check http://ip.ztecnet.net/
#2982 [20:27] <MarshallBonaskiewich> can anyone here help me?
#2983 [20:27] <mbentley> i'm out of ideas
#2984 [20:27] <mbentley> MarshallBonaskiewich: just ask
#2985 [20:27] <ConMan8> !check ip.ztecnet.net
#2986 [20:27] <MarshallBonaskiewich> alright i have a mac. and i downloaded minecraft about a month ago. i want to download minecart mania, but idk how to install it so i can use it..
#2987 [20:28] <Jakob> minecart mania?
#2988 [20:28] <Jakob> !motd
#2989 [20:28] <mbentley> we don't really support mods
#2990 [20:28] <Jakob> MarshallBonaskiewich type !motd
#2991 [20:28] <MarshallBonaskiewich> !motd
#2992 [20:28] <mbentley> i'd suggest that you check with the person who made the mod
#2993 [20:29] <eight-zero-one> !check 96.25.96.110
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#2995 [20:29] <MarshallBonaskiewich> ughhhh im so confused. do you know how to install anything? for macintosh computers?
#2996 [20:29] <ConMan8> Minecart Mania has its own wiki page
#2997 [20:29] <MarshallBonaskiewich> should i have a minecraft.jar file?
#2998 [20:29] <ConMan8> MarshallBonaskiewich: You need to put it into the .jar file in .minecraft in Application Support
#2999 [20:30] <MarshallBonaskiewich> where can i find that?
#3000 [20:30] <ConMan8> in Application Support
#3001 [20:30] <Jakob> MarshallBonaskiewich here http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecart_Mania!
#3002 [20:30] <ConMan8> I have no idea where that is because I don't have a Mac
#3003 [20:30] <ConMan8> >.>
#3004 [20:30] <Jakob> no idea for mac..
#3005 [20:31] <Jakob> windows it's AppData
#3006 [20:31] <Jakob> \Roaming\.minecraft
#3007 [20:31] <ConMan8> Windows Vista/7 it's appadata\roaming
#3008 [20:31] <Jakob> right
#3009 [20:31] <ConMan8> XP is just appdata
#3010 [20:31] <Jakob> %AppData%
#3011 [20:31] <mbentley> hmm, for me in win7 x64, it is just %appdata%
#3012 [20:32] <mbentley> oh facepalm
#3013 [20:32] <MarshallBonaskiewich> idk. i have no idea how to install mods
#3014 [20:32] <mbentley> lol
#3015 [20:32] <Jakob> !modt
#3016 [20:32] <mbentley> %appdata% vs appdata
#3017 [20:32] <Jakob> keep that in mind
#3018 [20:32] <Jakob> !motd
#3019 [20:33] <Jakob> any ideas mbently?
#3020 [20:33] <MarshallBonaskiewich> whats that...?
#3021 [20:34] <mbentley> i'm not really sure what could be your problem Jakob
#3022 [20:34] <Jakob> ugh :/
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#3024 [20:35] <mbentley> Jakob: could you check on your router to see if there is some sort of 'status' page that shows your ip address? not sure if your ISP could be doing something odd
#3025 [20:35] <hJulvort> !check 83.233.222.159
#3026 [20:36] <Jakob> not sure..
#3027 [20:41] <mbentley> Jakob: could you go to start > type in 'cmd' to open a command prompt, type 'tracert google.com' and then post the result to pastebin.com or take a screen shot of them?
#3028 [20:41] <Jakob> yes
#3029 [20:41] <Jakob> It's being kinda slow
#3030 [20:42] <Jakob> it's at 5 now
#3031 [20:42] <mbentley> yeah, it tends to
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#3033 [20:42] <Jakob> complete
#3034 [20:43] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/1d1721ed.png
#3035 [20:43] <mbentley> AH
#3036 [20:43] <Jakob> what????
#3037 [20:44] <Jakob> are you getting somewhere with this???
#3038 [20:44] <mbentley> hop #2 is 192.168.15.1. it looks like your ISP now has you on a private subnet
#3039 [20:44] <Jakob> hmm
#3040 [20:44] <Jakob> what does that mean?
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#3042 [20:45] <mbentley> that means that you will have to talk to your ISP
#3043 [20:45] <Jakob> what would I say?
#3044 [20:46] <Fmurf> Hello, i dont know if this is the right place to ask. But how the hell do you use an texture pack? Ive put it in the texturepack folder, but nothing happens..
#3045 [20:46] <mbentley> that you are trying to play a game an it requires port forwarding and it isn't working because you aren't assigned a public ip address to yourself
#3046 [20:46] <Jakob> alright, thanks
#3047 [20:46] <mbentley> Fmurf: don't unzip it.
#3048 [20:46] <mbentley> you should just drop the .zip in the texture folder
#3049 [20:47] <Fmurf> Wow, that made me feel stupid as hell.
#3050 [20:47] <Fmurf> Thank you ltos none the less
#3051 [20:47] <mbentley> np
#3052 [20:47] <mbentley> :)
#3053 [20:47] <mbentley> i would have done the same thing
#3054 [20:48] <Jakob> same!
#3055 [20:48] <Fmurf> Well, sorry to say. But that didnt work
#3056 [20:48] <Fmurf> Its C:\Users\Fmurf\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\texturepacks something right?
#3057 [20:50] <mbentley> yeah
#3058 [20:50] <mbentley> you aren't trying to run a texturepack that needs a mod, are you?
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#3060 [20:52] <hJulvort> Hey mbentley: I tried to connect to my server from my laptop with local ip but i just got the same(stuck on login). But when i tried the other way around with the server on the laptop it worked, but only with local ip. Does this mean that there is something blocking people on my regular computer?
#3061 [20:52] <Fmurf> I have no idea, its the Doku pack if that helps
#3062 [20:52] <mbentley> Fmurf: have a link to it?
#3063 [20:52] <Fmurf> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=25676
#3064 [20:53] <mbentley> hJulvort: do you get an error when you try to use your server?
#3065 [20:53] <mbentley> not sure why it is released as a .rar
#3066 [20:53] <mbentley> they have to be a .zip
#3067 [20:53] <Fmurf> Oh :( Ive seen people use it, and it was pretty
#3068 [20:54] <Fmurf> So i wanted it :p
#3069 [20:54] <hJulvort> nah nothing like that, just [WARNING] can't keep up! did the system time change, or is the server overloaded. When I change in propertis and such
#3070 [20:55] <Fmurf> Well, when you read the post it seems to be working for people
#3071 [20:55] <xales> hJulvort: can't keep up warning is normal
#3072 [20:55] <xales> mbentley: congrats on your useless +
#3073 [20:55] <hJulvort> yea that's what i thought
#3074 [20:56] <mbentley> lol thanks xales
#3075 [20:56] <hJulvort> anyone wanna try if you can login to my server now?
#3076 [20:56] <hJulvort> 83.233.222.159
#3077 [20:57] <lemon-rev> !check 83.233.222.159
#3078 [20:57] <hJulvort> hm
#3079 [20:57] <mbentley> Fmurf: i am gonna repack it
#3080 [20:58] <mbentley> cool, it worked
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#3083 [20:58] <mbentley> Fmurf:
#3084 [20:58] <FlameHead269> Hello
#3085 [20:58] <hJulvort> !check 83.233.222.159
#3086 [20:59] <mbentley> err.... http://www.mbentley.net/temp/DOKU_RPG_V1.2_FLOWERS.zip
#3087 [20:59] <Fmurf> Yes`
#3088 [20:59] <mbentley> that will work
#3089 [20:59] <FlameHead269> I;m dedicateing my server and I'm using Linux
#3090 [20:59] <Fmurf> Thanks you very much!
#3091 [20:59] <mbentley> np
#3092 [20:59] <FlameHead269> Hello can someone help me
#3093 [20:59] <mbentley> yes just ask
#3094 [20:59] <FlameHead269> Cand you?
#3095 [21:00] <mbentley> yes
#3096 [21:00] <hJulvort> ok now it can connect, but can you login is the question
#3097 [21:00] <FlameHead269> Ok, I run a server
#3098 [21:00] <FlameHead269> and I want to dedicate
#3099 [21:00] <FlameHead269> So i using Linux
#3100 [21:00] <Fmurf> Wow, thanks mbentley, looks awsome!
#3101 [21:00] <mbentley> np
#3102 [21:00] <FlameHead269> And I can't connect to the internet with Linux
#3103 [21:01] <FlameHead269> Can you help me get connected?
#3104 [21:01] <xales> where do you get stuck? what distribution of linux
#3105 [21:01] <FlameHead269> Ubuntu 10.10
#3106 [21:01] <FlameHead269> 32-bit
#3107 [21:01] <xales> server or desktop edition
#3108 [21:01] <FlameHead269> Desktop I think
#3109 [21:01] <FlameHead269> i have a laptop
#3110 [21:02] <xales> running a server on a laptop
#3111 [21:02] <xales> is a bad idea, just be warned
#3112 [21:02] <Jakob> lol
#3113 [21:02] <FlameHead269> Well for now yes
#3114 [21:02] <Jakob> very unstable..
#3115 [21:02] <FlameHead269> Temporary
#3116 [21:02] <FlameHead269> Jakob it works fine
#3117 [21:02] <xales> the laptop probably won't be able to handle minecraft (unless it is very new/high end), and if your using wireless it will lag massively
#3118 [21:02] <Jakob> lol..
#3119 [21:02] <Jakob> yeah
#3120 [21:02] <FlameHead269> No i use Cable
#3121 [21:02] <Jakob> how much ram does your laptop have?
#3122 [21:03] <Jakob> moo: ram: 1.49/4GB (38.59%) [||||------]
#3123 [21:03] <xales> is the laptop plugged into the router then?
#3124 [21:03] <Jakob> k brb dinner
#3125 [21:03] <FlameHead269> 8GB i7 Core Rpocesser
#3126 [21:03] <mbentley> i think he will be ok here
#3127 [21:03] <FlameHead269> Alienware
#3128 [21:03] <mbentley> lol
#3129 [21:03] <FlameHead269> lol
#3130 [21:03] <xales> lol
#3131 [21:03] <FlameHead269> so how do i get connected if im using a Cable Modem
#3132 [21:03] <xales> anyway
#3133 [21:04] <xales> you should only need to plug it in
#3134 [21:04] <mbentley> so you have a cable modem only? no router?
#3135 [21:04] <xales> I haven't found a NIC yet that 2.6.26+ doesn't work with :/
#3136 [21:04] <FlameHead269> Yes,I have one somewhere else
#3137 [21:04] <FlameHead269> tbut like i said
#3138 [21:04] <FlameHead269> temporary
#3139 [21:04] <FlameHead269> I just need and internet connection
#3140 [21:05] <xales> can you provide more details on how you are connecting it
#3141 [21:05] <xales> because that is important
#3142 [21:05] <FlameHead269> ok
#3143 [21:05] <FlameHead269> Umm
#3144 [21:05] <FlameHead269> What you need to know?
#3145 [21:05] <xales> it should be something like internet connection (cable jack) -> cable modem -> router or computer
#3146 [21:05] <xales> is that how you have it set up?
#3147 [21:05] <FlameHead269> im using local area connection cable
#3148 [21:05] <xales> and what is that plugged into
#3149 [21:06] <FlameHead269> Cable in the wall =/
#3150 [21:06] <xales> your trying to connect the laptop directly to the wall?
#3151 [21:06] <hJulvort> im having login problem with my server can someone try to login to 83.233.222.159 in minecraft please?
#3152 [21:06] <FlameHead269> no the modem is connected to the wall
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#3154 [21:07] <xales> the cable that you plug into your laptop
#3155 [21:07] <xales> what does that cable plug into
#3156 [21:07] <FlameHead269> its a TV cable thats connected into the modem and wall
#3157 [21:07] <FlameHead269> then the wire for the LAC
#3158 [21:07] <FlameHead269> is in the LAN
#3159 [21:07] <mbentley> ok, so it is just directly connected to the cable modem
#3160 [21:08] <FlameHead269> tand then to my PC
#3161 [21:08] <mbentley> when you switch devices connected to your cable modem, you will likely need to power cycle your modem for it to accept the new mac address of the network device
#3162 [21:08] <xales> unplug modem and plug it back in
#3163 [21:08] <FlameHead269> ooo ok
#3164 [21:09] <FlameHead269> Shit
#3165 [21:09] <FlameHead269> soory bout curse
#3166 [21:09] <FlameHead269> but i config my modem wrong
#3167 [21:09] <FlameHead269> how do i change it
#3168 [21:09] <FlameHead269> i cant connect and im using the neighbors
#3169 [21:09] <xales> when you say you configured it wrong
#3170 [21:09] <mbentley> not sure what you mean. typically you don't change anything on your modem
#3171 [21:09] <xales> where did you configure it
#3172 [21:09] <xales> how did you get to the configuration screen?
#3173 [21:10] <FlameHead269> 192.168.*.*
#3174 [21:10] <FlameHead269> kind
#3175 [21:10] <xales> thats a router then, not a modem
#3176 [21:10] <FlameHead269> ok
#3177 [21:10] <FlameHead269> lol
#3178 [21:10] <mbentley> could be a modem/router all in one
#3179 [21:10] <FlameHead269> it is
#3180 [21:10] <xales> what did you configure wrong
#3181 [21:10] <xales> if you know
#3182 [21:11] <FlameHead269> i change the password key from WEP-64BIt to wep-128bit
#3183 [21:11] <FlameHead269> now i cant connect
#3184 [21:11] <FlameHead269> it was a accident
#3185 [21:11] <xales> if your plugging the computer in, the password isn't used
#3186 [21:11] <mbentley> can't connect over wireless
#3187 [21:12] <FlameHead269> ok
#3188 [21:12] <xales> if you want to change the password, the options for that would be to use a computer plugged into the router or the reset switch
#3189 [21:12] <xales> however, if you are physically plugging it in, then that is not the issue
#3190 [21:12] <FlameHead269> but that would rid the SSid right
#3191 [21:13] <Jakob> hmm
#3192 [21:13] <FlameHead269> ok
#3193 [21:13] <FlameHead269> brb
#3194 [21:13] <FlameHead269> let me try
#3195 [21:13] <xales> those options (password, SSID)
#3196 [21:13] <xales> are for wireless
#3197 [21:13] <Jakob> okay time to convince mom to call my isp
#3198 [21:13] <xales> a wired connection does not use them
#3199 [21:13] <FlameHead269> ok
#3200 [21:13] <FlameHead269> then how do i get Linux Connection
#3201 [21:14] <xales> when you plug the ethernet cable into the laptop
#3202 [21:14] <mbentley> you should be able to just plug in the network cable and it should get an ip...
#3203 [21:14] <xales> the place on the laptop it plugs into should have lights in/on it
#3204 [21:14] <xales> if the lights aren't flashing or steady, it is plugged in wrong
#3205 [21:14] <FlameHead269> its fully connected
#3206 [21:14] <xales> (or the laptop doesn't have them, but that is unlikely)
#3207 [21:14] <xales> how do you know it is connected
#3208 [21:15] <xales> if it doesn't work, that is the most likely problem
#3209 [21:15] <FlameHead269> now like what do i do to Set a windows thingup with Linux
#3210 [21:15] <mbentley> a graphical interface?
#3211 [21:15] <FlameHead269> no this is the first time ever used linux
#3212 [21:15] <xales> once again, when you plug it in, there are no other steps
#3213 [21:15] <mbentley> not sure what you mean
#3214 [21:15] <FlameHead269> hmm
#3215 [21:16] <FlameHead269> ok
#3216 [21:16] <xales> mbentley: I think he wants to open something like the "Local Area Connection" properties on windows
#3217 [21:16] <xales> anyway
#3218 [21:16] <FlameHead269> thats what im doing
#3219 [21:16] <xales> as I said, there is no configuration needed for a wired connection, unless you changed something on the router
#3220 [21:16] <FlameHead269> ok
#3221 [21:16] <xales> but you would likely know if you did that
#3222 [21:17] <mbentley> like if you just tell us what you are trying to do, we can help you better
#3223 [21:17] <FlameHead269> ok
#3224 [21:17] <FlameHead269> there is a propietay dirve
#3225 [21:17] <FlameHead269> to connect to the internet
#3226 [21:17] <mbentley> that would be for the wireless (most likely)
#3227 [21:17] <FlameHead269> it is
#3228 [21:18] <mbentley> you should already be connected to the internet if the cable is plugged in...
#3229 [21:18] <xales> you do not need that, if you are using the wired connection
#3230 [21:18] <FlameHead269> it not work with the wired
#3231 [21:18] <FlameHead269> or wireless
#3232 [21:18] <mbentley> open a terminal
#3233 [21:18] <FlameHead269> whats that?
#3234 [21:18] <mbentley> applications > accessories > terminal
#3235 [21:18] <FlameHead269> on linux?
#3236 [21:18] <hJulvort> im having login problem with my server can someone try to login to 83.233.222.159 in minecraft please?
#3237 [21:18] <mbentley> yes
#3238 [21:19] <FlameHead269> but then i have to get off
#3239 [21:19] <FlameHead269> and then if no work then get back on here
#3240 [21:19] <FlameHead269> (20 mins process)
#3241 [21:19] <xales> do you have another computer?
#3242 [21:19] <FlameHead269> yes
#3243 [21:19] <xales> use that to talk to us then
#3244 [21:19] <FlameHead269> ok brb
#3245 [21:19] <Jakob> okay, :46:28p] <mbentley> that you are trying to play a game an it requires port forwarding and it isn't working because you aren't assigned a public ip address to yourself
#3246 [21:20] <Jakob> I need to have my mom call in a minute
#3247 [21:20] <xales> err
#3248 [21:20] <xales> wait
#3249 [21:20] <xales> whats the issue there Jakob
#3250 [21:20] <Jakob> my port isn't forwarding
#3251 [21:20] <Jakob> and we were troubleshooting and figured that out
#3252 [21:20] <xales> the ISP probably can't help you >.>
#3253 [21:20] <xales> or will tell you that you can't host a server and then not help you
#3254 [21:21] <xales> what kind of connection are you using?
#3255 [21:21] <Jakob> well I am getting the error Connection Refused: connect
#3256 [21:21] <FlameHead269> prob no Pforward
#3257 [21:21] <Jakob> it's forwarding
#3258 [21:21] <FlameHead269> high doubt
#3259 [21:21] <FlameHead269> ok
#3260 [21:21] <mbentley> xales: his ISP uses a privite address range
#3261 [21:21] <mbentley> *private
#3262 [21:21] <Jakob> I already went through this with mbentley
#3263 [21:21] <xales> O_o
#3264 [21:21] <FlameHead269> ahh
#3265 [21:21] <xales> what
#3266 [21:21] <mbentley> yeah
#3267 [21:21] <xales> what stupid-ass ISP would dothat
#3268 [21:22] <mbentley> had him to a tracert to google.com and hop 2 was another private subnet
#3269 [21:22] <mbentley> 192.168.15.1
#3270 [21:22] <Jakob> yeah
#3271 [21:22] <Jakob> I have clear
#3272 [21:22] <Jakob> http://clear.com
#3273 [21:22] <Jakob> err, clearwire
#3274 [21:22] <Jakob> I guess.
#3275 [21:22] <Jakob> !host
#3276 [21:22] <mbentley> wimax, right?
#3277 [21:22] <Jakob> yes
#3278 [21:22] <Jakob> wimax
#3279 [21:22] <nipper> http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2011/1/5/d33a117f-a6a7-4cdf-8533-bb112ed471df_thumb.jpeg
#3280 [21:22] <mbentley> yeah...
#3281 [21:22] <Jakob> I hate my isp so much..
#3282 [21:22] <FlameHead269> when i used linux
#3283 [21:22] <FlameHead269> SO FAST
#3284 [21:22] <xales> if your trying to run a server on that Jakob
#3285 [21:22] <Jakob> my mom switched to it from comcast..
#3286 [21:23] <Jakob> >:|
#3287 [21:23] <xales> it will not work
#3288 [21:23] <Jakob> how do you know
#3289 [21:23] <Jakob> err, explain please
#3290 [21:23] <xales> it will lag more than you can imagine
#3291 [21:23] <xales> not playable levels of lag for other people
#3292 [21:23] <Jakob> I was doing it before
#3293 [21:23] <Jakob> no lag..
#3294 [21:23] <xales> on comcast or clearwire?
#3295 [21:23] <Jakob> my cousin was connecting locally though
#3296 [21:23] <Jakob> clearwire
#3297 [21:23] <xales> its only for people that aren't local
#3298 [21:23] <FlameHead269> does the serlist u have it on sa its online
#3299 [21:23] <Jakob> yeah I guess
#3300 [21:23] <FlameHead269> check it
#3301 [21:24] <xales> and there won't be a way for them to assign you your own IP
#3302 [21:24] <xales> most likely
#3303 [21:24] <xales> or they will charge you a stupid amount for that
#3304 [21:24] <Jakob> oh
#3305 [21:24] <mbentley> i think it is ridiculous for an ISP to do that to people
#3306 [21:24] <Jakob> meh
#3307 [21:24] <Jakob> :/
#3308 [21:24] <Jakob> I agree
#3309 [21:24] <FlameHead269> ok ill be on
#3310 [21:25] <xales> I'm not sure if they have a choice mbentley, the way the wimax infrastructure is
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#3312 [21:25] <Jakob> well, both of my linux servers only have 128mb's
#3313 [21:25] <Jakob> lol.
#3314 [21:25] <FlameHEad269> ok
#3315 [21:25] <Jakob> maybe I will get a 3gb windows server
#3316 [21:25] <xales> why do you have two VPSes with 128mb?
#3317 [21:26] <xales> why not get 512mb VPS >.>
#3318 [21:26] <Jakob> why not?
#3319 [21:26] <Jakob> they are from two different people
#3320 [21:26] <xales> lol, windows server
#3321 [21:26] <xales> ._.
#3322 [21:26] <Jakob> and I'm not paying for one of them
#3323 [21:26] <xales> lol
#3324 [21:26] <FlameHEad269> im on linux
#3325 [21:26] <Jakob> well, do you suggest I get a linux server for it?
#3326 [21:26] <FlameHEad269> now what
#3327 [21:26] <xales> FlameHEad269: applications->accessories->terminal
#3328 [21:26] <FlameHEad269> ok
#3329 [21:26] <xales> Jakob: Yes. Windows is shit for servers
#3330 [21:26] <FlameHEad269> thenn.............
#3331 [21:26] <xales> and more expensive
#3332 [21:26] <Jakob> lol
#3333 [21:27] <Jakob> http://ztnhosting.com
#3334 [21:27] <xales> FlameHEad269: type "ifconfig" and hit enter (do not type the quotes, only what is in them)
#3335 [21:27] <mbentley> sudo ifconfig
#3336 [21:27] <FlameHEad269> ok
#3337 [21:27] <mbentley> don't think ubuntu has ifconfig in the user's path
#3338 [21:27] <FlameHEad269> i dont actually have Ubuntu instaled
#3339 [21:27] <FlameHEad269> just trying it
#3340 [21:27] <FlameHEad269> fooor now
#3341 [21:27] <xales> what?
#3342 [21:27] <FlameHEad269> i need internet first
#3343 [21:27] <xales> if you don't have it installed
#3344 [21:28] <mbentley> i thought you said you were on linux...
#3345 [21:28] <xales> you CAN NOT run a server from the CD
#3346 [21:28] <Jakob> windows servers are more expensive cause they require more ram, and a windows certificate
#3347 [21:28] <FlameHEad269> im not
#3348 [21:28] <xales> and that is probably why it doesn't work
#3349 [21:28] <FlameHEad269> im not
#3350 [21:28] <xales> Jakob: indeed
#3351 [21:28] <xales> then how are you running Linux if it is not installed
#3352 [21:28] <FlameHEad269> trying without install
#3353 [21:28] <mbentley> could be a livecd
#3354 [21:28] <xales> thats running on a CD then
#3355 [21:28] <Jakob> perhaps I will try to set up a server on my friend's dedi
#3356 [21:28] <xales> and you --->CAN NOT<--- run a server from that
#3357 [21:29] <FlameHEad269> i know
#3358 [21:29] <FlameHEad269> i need help donwloading tooo
#3359 [21:29] <FlameHEad269> like isaid me and Linux=SUCK
#3360 [21:29] <xales> and the reason internet doesn't work is probably because the livecd kernel isn't loading the module for your NIC
#3361 [21:29] <xales> if you are running it from the disk
#3362 [21:29] <mbentley> eh, with ubuntu, it would
#3363 [21:29] <Jakob> does anyone here have experience with linux dedicated servers?
#3364 [21:29] <xales> all you need to do is install it
#3365 [21:29] <Xerati> Jakob, which flavor
#3366 [21:29] <FlameHEad269> ok
#3367 [21:29] <Jakob> debian
#3368 [21:29] <FlameHEad269> but i need help
#3369 [21:29] <xales> Jakob: how is that different from any other linux? but yes, I do >.>
#3370 [21:29] <Xerati> not in years, sorry
#3371 [21:29] <FlameHEad269> too complicated
#3372 [21:29] <mbentley> hell, gentoo will detect the nic by default on most systems
#3373 [21:30] <Jakob> how do I set up a vps on a dedicated server?
#3374 [21:30] <xales> mbentley: gentoo doesn't run from a livecd with a hacked livecd kernel
#3375 [21:30] <xales> Jakob: google "openvz"
#3376 [21:30] <Jakob> okay thanks
#3377 [21:30] <fogwraith> FlameHEad269: it sounds to me that you should stay away from Linux, if it's too complicated
#3378 [21:30] <xales> server needs more than 1 IP routing to it though
#3379 [21:31] <FlameHEad269> nooo
#3380 [21:31] <FlameHEad269> seriously
#3381 [21:31] <FlameHEad269> just hold on
#3382 [21:31] * fogwraith is serious
#3382 [21:31] <FlameHEad269> i just need someone to help me with donwload
#3383 [21:31] <mbentley> this should be the easy part, getting it installed and connected to the internet
#3384 [21:31] <FlameHEad269> install
#3385 [21:31] <mbentley> especially with ubuntu
#3386 [21:31] <FlameHEad269> But idk how to use Patitions
#3387 [21:32] <FlameHEad269> thats all
#3388 [21:32] <xales> mbentley: partitioning though? too easy to blow away windows
#3389 [21:32] <fogwraith> Use entire disk, it's guided
#3390 [21:32] <mbentley> wait don't
#3391 [21:32] <fogwraith> Shh
#3392 [21:32] <mbentley> unless you want to get rid of your windows install
#3393 [21:32] <FlameHEad269> im willing to wipe off windows for linux
#3394 [21:32] * fogwraith sighs
#3394 [21:32] <xales> FlameHEad269: keep in mind all of the data on the computer
#3395 [21:32] <xales> all saved files
#3396 [21:33] <xales> will be irrevocably lost
#3397 [21:33] <FlameHEad269> Vista is EEEEVVVVIIILLL
#3398 [21:33] <xales> if you do that
#3399 [21:33] <FlameHEad269> i know
#3400 [21:33] <FlameHEad269> i do
#3401 [21:33] <eight-zero-one> FlameHEad269: have you tried typing "sudo rm -rf */" in terminal?
#3402 [21:33] <FlameHEad269> ok
#3403 [21:33] <xales> eight-zero-one: D:
#3404 [21:33] <xales> dont do that
#3405 [21:33] <FlameHEad269> so
#3406 [21:33] <FlameHEad269> lets install this thing
#3407 [21:33] <xales> FlameHEad269: for the partitioning thig
#3408 [21:33] <FlameHEad269> mhm'
#3409 [21:33] <xales> just select "Guided: Use entire disk"
#3410 [21:33] <mbentley> there are guides online that are great for this...
#3411 [21:34] <Jakob> um
#3412 [21:34] <FlameHEad269> guys just
#3413 [21:34] <FlameHEad269> plz
#3414 [21:34] <FlameHEad269> help me
#3415 [21:34] <xales> as I said
#3416 [21:34] <FlameHEad269> ok it says instalion medium is on dev/sda1
#3417 [21:34] <xales> ok
#3418 [21:34] <FlameHEad269> now what
#3419 [21:35] <xales> click next?
#3420 [21:35] <FlameHEad269> no root file sys is defined
#3421 [21:35] <xales> did you click on "Guided: Use entire disk"?
#3422 [21:35] <mbentley> sounds like you didn't do guided...
#3423 [21:36] <FlameHEad269> how i do guided?
#3424 [21:36] <fogwraith> FlameHEad269: Seriously, I don't think that Linux is for you if you can't get past the most dumbed down install there is
#3425 [21:36] <fogwraith> I'm sorry, but, yeah
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#3427 [21:36] <FlameHEad269> just tell me and i know what to do from there
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#3429 [21:37] <xales> FlameHEad269: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=install-step4a.png
#3430 [21:37] <FlameHEad269> ok
#3431 [21:37] <FlameHEad269> hold on
#3432 [21:37] <grantrithor> when i try and connect to the multiplayer server it reads java.net.socketextension: permission denied: connect can anyone help me
#3433 [21:38] <FlameHEad269> it at Allocate drive space
#3434 [21:38] <FlameHEad269> whats this
#3435 [21:38] <FlameHEad269> ive been here
#3436 [21:38] <FlameHEad269> but how to u use it correctly
#3437 [21:38] <xales> FlameHEad269: click the back button
#3438 [21:38] <xales> until you get to a screen that allows you to choose a "Use entire disk" or "Erase disk and overwrite" option
#3439 [21:39] <FlameHEad269> ok
#3440 [21:39] <FlameHEad269> no now im at the Welcome
#3441 [21:39] <FlameHEad269> thingy
#3442 [21:39] <FlameHEad269> where i chose language
#3443 [21:40] <xales> on the 4th step
#3444 [21:40] <FlameHEad269> no this is the first
#3445 [21:41] <xales> I know
#3446 [21:41] <xales> go to the 4th step
#3447 [21:41] * mbentley wonders if this network has a #linux
#3447 [21:41] <xales> I think so
#3448 [21:41] <FlameHEad269> OMG
#3449 [21:41] <FlameHEad269> I FOUND IT
#3450 [21:41] <FlameHEad269> YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS
#3451 [21:42] <FlameHEad269> it say select drive
#3452 [21:42] <xales> there should only be one option
#3453 [21:42] <FlameHEad269> ugh
#3454 [21:42] <xales> if there is more than one, pick "sda"
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#3456 [21:45] <FlameHEad269> no its only sdc
#3457 [21:45] <FlameHEad269> only cuz i plugging in flash drive
#3458 [21:45] <FlameHEad269> how do i select C:/
#3459 [21:45] <FlameHEad269> C:\
#3460 [21:45] <FlameHEad269> i mean
#3461 [21:45] <FlameHEad269> waitr
#3462 [21:45] <FlameHEad269> ok
#3463 [21:46] <xales> ._.
#3464 [21:46] <xales> there is no C:
#3465 [21:46] <xales> on linux
#3466 [21:46] <FlameHEad269> do i pick? /dev/sda1?
#3467 [21:46] <FlameHEad269> oo
#3468 [21:46] <FlameHEad269> ok
#3469 [21:46] <xales> yes
#3470 [21:46] <xales> /dev/sda
#3471 [21:46] <FlameHEad269> so what my Boat Loader
#3472 [21:47] <xales> GRUB
#3473 [21:47] <FlameHEad269> ?
#3474 [21:47] <xales> it should not ask for a boot loader
#3475 [21:47] <FlameHEad269> it is
#3476 [21:47] <mbentley> what exactly does it say?
#3477 [21:47] <xales> what exactly does it say
#3478 [21:47] <mbentley> lol
#3479 [21:48] <FlameHEad269> it has a list of Boot loader opts
#3480 [21:48] <xales> it shouldn't do that
#3481 [21:48] <xales> are you sure you are installing Ubuntu 10.10?
#3482 [21:48] * fogwraith grabs a bowl 'o popcorn
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#3483 [21:49] <FlameHEad269> yeah theres a switch say install Ubuntu 10.10
#3484 [21:49] <Theflashback23> Icchan*I need help!I try to load the game but it says something about pixel error
#3485 [21:49] <fogwraith> Theflashback23: update java / video drivers
#3486 [21:49] <xales> Theflashback23: update your graphics card drivers
#3487 [21:49] <xales> FlameHEad269: did you select "Erase and use entire disk"?
#3488 [21:49] <FlameHEad269> yes
#3489 [21:50] <FlameHEad269> then now it says Select Drive
#3490 [21:50] <xales> did you select SDA?
#3491 [21:50] <Theflashback23> k my graphics card is updated but my java isnt ill try tht
#3492 [21:50] <FlameHEad269> noo its not an option
#3493 [21:50] <xales> what option did you select
#3494 [21:50] <xales> what EXACTLY did you select
#3495 [21:50] <FlameHEad269> its my flashdrive
#3496 [21:51] <FlameHEad269> when i pluged in
#3497 [21:51] <FlameHEad269> the Erase thing ur talking about came up
#3498 [21:51] <Theflashback23> it says ita already the lastest version
#3499 [21:51] <xales> Theflashback23: what kind of computer is it? laptop, desktop, netbook?
#3500 [21:51] <Theflashback23> Desktop Windoes Vista
#3501 [21:51] <FlameHEad269> laptop
#3502 [21:51] <xales> FlameHEad269: in the select drive list, what did you click on
#3503 [21:51] <FlameHEad269> o ok
#3504 [21:51] <mbentley> think it is time for me to hit the sack before my head explodes :)
#3505 [21:52] <mbentley> eyes so tired
#3506 [21:52] <fogwraith> mbentley: stay a while, have some snacks
#3507 [21:52] <fogwraith> I'm actually enjoying the show ;P
#3508 [21:52] <mbentley> i'd rather have a beer...
#3509 [21:52] * xales spills fogwraith's popcorn all over the floor
#3509 [21:52] <mbentley> or 7
#3510 [21:52] <fogwraith> ;_;
#3511 [21:52] <FlameHEad269> SCS18(0,0,0)(sdc)-520.mb Flash Drive AL_USB20
#3512 [21:52] * fogwraith has some Dr. Pepper
#3512 [21:53] <xales> you can't install it to a flash drive
#3513 [21:53] <FlameHEad269> ii know
#3514 [21:53] <xales> what other options are in the drive select list
#3515 [21:53] <FlameHEad269> there are none
#3516 [21:53] <xales> do you know how many cylinders your hard disk has?
#3517 [21:54] <FlameHEad269> local disk?
#3518 [21:54] <fogwraith> xales: not cool ;P
#3519 [21:54] <mbentley> ice cold
#3520 [21:54] <xales> FlameHEad269: if your hard drive doesn't appear in the list
#3521 [21:55] <xales> then there is a problem with Linux finding it, and fixing this is not simple
#3522 [21:55] <xales> and is not something I can help you do over the internet
#3523 [21:55] * fogwraith bets he will fly xales over, expenses paid
#3523 [21:55] <xales> I reccomend just using Windows, especially if, as you said, it is only for a temporary server
#3524 [21:55] <mbentley> ^^^+eleventy
#3525 [21:56] <xales> the issue fix would possibly include altering the drive architecture, which requires you to demagnetize the read head, and resetting the MBR and BIOS
#3526 [21:57] <FlameHEad269> what if i tryed ^$-bit
#3527 [21:57] <FlameHEad269> 64
#3528 [21:57] <FlameHEad269> my PC is 64
#3529 [21:57] <FlameHEad269> im using 32
#3530 [21:57] <xales> that will not make a difference
#3531 [21:57] <mbentley> doesn't matter
#3532 [21:57] <xales> as I said, just use Windows. it doesn't seem like you understand linux enough to make it work, or to use it properly
#3533 [21:58] <mbentley> welp bed for serious this time :D
#3534 [21:58] * fogwraith ties mbentley down to a chair
#3534 [21:59] * xales ties fogwraith to a mbentley
#3534 [21:59] <fogwraith> :|
#3535 [21:59] <grantrithor> when i try and connect to the multiplayer server it reads java.net.socketextension: permission denied: connect
#3536 [21:59] <grantrithor> anyone able to help?
#3537 [22:00] <xales> try another server
#3538 [22:00] <xales> that one is probably using a whitelist
#3539 [22:00] <grantrithor> i am connected to it over hamachi and other people are using it now
#3540 [22:01] <xales> talk to whomever is running a server
#3541 [22:01] <xales> the problem is that it is blocking your connection
#3542 [22:01] <xales> there should be more information in the server's console
#3543 [22:02] <fogwraith> Also, turn on debugging for Java, see if it shows any more info
#3544 [22:05] <grantrithor> well anyone have another server ip i could try?
#3545 [22:06] <xales> smp.shadow-craft.net
#3546 [22:07] <nipper> mc.shackx.net
#3547 [22:08] <grantrithor> both say same
#3548 [22:09] <xales> disable firewall
#3549 [22:10] <FlameHEad269> well uhh
#3550 [22:10] <FlameHEad269> uhhh
#3551 [22:10] <FlameHEad269> windows is gone
#3552 [22:10] <FlameHEad269> Linux only one that works
#3553 [22:10] <FlameHEad269> :O
#3554 [22:10] <grantrithor> is off
#3555 [22:12] <xales> FlameHEad269: unfortunately, looks like you went against our reccomendation and screwed yourself. there are a multitude of guides online which tell in detail how to install linux or reinstall windows
#3556 [22:12] <xales> this is not the general computer support channel, and we cannot hold your hand for this here
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#3558 [22:13] <FlameHEad269> ok
#3559 [22:15] <FlameHEad269> is there a way i could get it back
#3560 [22:15] <xales> as I said
#3561 [22:15] <xales> this is not general computer support
#3562 [22:15] <xales> try using google
#3563 [22:15] <FlameHEad269> k
#3564 [22:15] <FlameHEad269> what should i type in
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#3566 [22:16] <xales> what do you think?
#3567 [22:16] <FlameHEad269> seriously
#3568 [22:16] <FlameHEad269> tell me
#3569 [22:16] <xales> no seriously
#3570 [22:16] <xales> tell me what you think
#3571 [22:17] <xales> or how about you tell me exactly what you want to do
#3572 [22:17] <xales> do you want to reinstall windows, or install linux
#3573 [22:17] <FlameHEad269> what u think i should doi
#3574 [22:17] <FlameHEad269> do
#3575 [22:17] <fogwraith> Return the computer to whatever store you bought it in
#3576 [22:17] * fogwraith calls the A-Team
#3576 [22:17] <xales> uhm
#3577 [22:18] <xales> take it to a tech support department at a store that has one
#3578 [22:18] <xales> and tell them you want to reinstall windows
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#3581 [22:24] <Hurlawhirl> Hey how do you know if you've hit absolute bottom in the game?
#3582 [22:24] <Hurlawhirl> I've hit bedrock, but I dont' know where the bottom is
#3583 [22:24] <xales> bedrock is the bottom
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#3585 [22:24] <TW|QueryIfNeeded> it's just void if you manage to get past the bedrock, so bedrock=bottom
#3586 [22:25] <Hurlawhirl> yeah but I have multiple layers of it
#3587 [22:25] <Hurlawhirl> and I don'
#3588 [22:25] <Hurlawhirl> and I don't know if there is more
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#3590 [22:26] <xales> there isn't a way past it
#3591 [22:26] <Hurlawhirl> eh, I'll figure it out. Thanks.
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#3597 [22:30] <ajax24> hi is anyone else having the problem that minecraft just gets stuck on the updating mincraft screen? it says done loading and the green loading bar is stuck almost full
#3598 [22:32] <xales> reinstall minecraft
#3599 [22:32] <xales> instructions are at http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#3600 [22:32] <ajax24> i did
#3601 [22:58] <Jakob> did you figure it ouot?
#3602 [23:00] <xales> did you?
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#3604 [23:07] <tonkatim420> i havent been able to connect to any MP servers for about 2 days ....
#3605 [23:08] <xales> what error do you get
#3606 [23:08] <tonkatim420> connection timed out: connect
#3607 [23:08] <xales> do you have a firewall installed?
#3608 [23:09] <tonkatim420> i have disabled windows firewall .. i have forwarded port 25565 on router .. im at a loss
#3609 [23:10] <xales> do you have a firewall other than windows firewall?
#3610 [23:10] <xales> or any antivirus-type software
#3611 [23:10] <tonkatim420> no
#3612 [23:10] <tonkatim420> AVG
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#3615 [23:11] <xales> disable AVG
#3616 [23:11] <xales> and try again
#3617 [23:11] <mib_1uxryk> y dus the portal not work in multi
#3618 [23:11] <ThePenguinDeveloper> hello
#3619 [23:11] <tonkatim420> i had been able to play on a number of servers for about 2 months..then about 2 days ago issues surfaced
#3620 [23:11] <xales> hello
#3621 [23:11] <xales> mib_1uxryk: because its not been added
#3622 [23:11] <xales> tonkatim420: how many servers have you tried?
#3623 [23:11] <ThePenguinDeveloper> if i wanted a mc server that runs 15 players how much ram do i need?
#3624 [23:12] <xales> there is no real amount of ram
#3625 [23:12] <xales> but as a benchmark
#3626 [23:12] <tonkatim420> xales, about 3 or so ... 2 that i had used regularly
#3627 [23:12] <xales> or whatever
#3628 [23:12] <xales> 100MB per player to be safe
#3629 [23:12] <xales> tonkatim420: try smp.shadow-craft.net
#3630 [23:12] <ThePenguinDeveloper> well i have a 1gb server
#3631 [23:12] <ThePenguinDeveloper> 1 gb ram*
#3632 [23:13] <xales> running Windows?
#3633 [23:13] <tonkatim420> WHOA .. i connected
#3634 [23:13] <ThePenguinDeveloper> will that play mc 15 players smothly?
#3635 [23:13] <ThePenguinDeveloper> no linux
#3636 [23:13] <dopeghoti> 1GB is the minimum to run Minecraft at _all_.
#3637 [23:13] <xales> ThePenguinDeveloper: run the command "free -m" and paste the results on pastebin.com
#3638 [23:13] <tonkatim420> i am on win7
#3639 [23:13] <ThePenguinDeveloper> so what about 15 player?
#3640 [23:14] <xales> ThePenguinDeveloper: run that command, will give more details about ram (including usage, buffers and swap)
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#3642 [23:14] <xales> but I seriously doubt 1gb is enough for 15 players
#3643 [23:14] <ThePenguinDeveloper> really?
#3644 [23:14] <ThePenguinDeveloper> dang
#3645 [23:14] <xales> you could try it, but if it is a VPS it will explode
#3646 [23:14] <xales> if its a dedicated it will start swapping and lag like you wouldn't believe
#3647 [23:15] <ThePenguinDeveloper> no its not a vps
#3648 [23:15] <tonkatim420> xales, i connected to that shadow-craft server, without incident
#3649 [23:15] <ThePenguinDeveloper> its a dedicated server
#3650 [23:15] <xales> tonkatim420: then the problem is with the servers your connecting to
#3651 [23:15] <tonkatim420> i guess so .. lol
#3652 [23:15] <xales> ThePenguinDeveloper: after you go past 1gb, it will start swapping and lag to the point of less than 5FPS
#3653 [23:15] <xales> so I really doubt 15 people will fit on 1gb
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#3655 [23:17] <tonkatim420> how many people jwill 12GB od DDR3 allow ??
#3656 [23:17] <ssen> 32 is a safe amount
#3657 [23:17] <ThePenguinDeveloper> i wish i had that
#3658 [23:17] <ssen> it could probably handle 128 if pushed
#3659 [23:17] <tonkatim420> =]
#3660 [23:17] <ThePenguinDeveloper> oh zales that command didn't work
#3661 [23:17] <ThePenguinDeveloper> xales*
#3662 [23:18] <xales> what do you mean
#3663 [23:18] <xales> what did it say when you ran it
#3664 [23:19] <ThePenguinDeveloper> nothing happend
#3665 [23:19] <ThePenguinDeveloper> im using mcmyadmin for a control pannle
#3666 [23:19] <dopeghoti> you need to run it at the command prompt of your server
#3667 [23:19] <ThePenguinDeveloper> i did
#3668 [23:20] <ThePenguinDeveloper> nothing happened
#3669 [23:20] <ThePenguinDeveloper> i have console acess
#3670 [23:20] <xales> oh
#3671 [23:20] <xales> is it a VPS
#3672 [23:20] <xales> or a minecraft server
#3673 [23:20] <xales> >.>
#3674 [23:20] <ThePenguinDeveloper> a minecraft server
#3675 [23:20] <xales> ah, you said it was a VPS
#3676 [23:20] <xales> :/
#3677 [23:20] <ThePenguinDeveloper> no
#3678 [23:21] <xales> or dedicated rather
#3679 [23:21] <xales> durr
#3680 [23:21] <dopeghoti> ThePenguinDeveloper: minecraft console != commandline
#3681 [23:21] <ThePenguinDeveloper> oh yay
#3682 [23:21] <xales> dopeghoti: he doesn't have ssh/shell access
#3683 [23:21] <ThePenguinDeveloper> yes i entered in that into the command line
#3684 [23:21] <ThePenguinDeveloper> nothing happened
#3685 [23:21] <xales> its one of those "gameservers.com" type things
#3686 [23:22] <dopeghoti> ah, an über-subset.
#3687 [23:22] <ThePenguinDeveloper> ya kinda
#3688 [23:22] <tonkatim420> xales, who's server is that Shadow-craft ?
#3689 [23:23] <xales> shadow386
#3690 [23:23] <xales> dopeghoti: what?
#3691 [23:23] <xales> 23:21:59 <+dopeghoti> ah, an ######ubset.
#3692 [23:23] <tonkatim420> is it open, or do i need to register or something?
#3693 [23:23] <ThePenguinDeveloper> so u guys can't help me?
#3694 [23:23] <ThePenguinDeveloper> or am i helpless
#3695 [23:23] <ThePenguinDeveloper> lol
#3696 [23:23] <xales> tonkatim420: you just need to put in your username and email on this website to build. (http://smp.shadow-craft.net)
#3697 [23:23] <dopeghoti> xales: über-subset. I typed no octothorpes.
#3698 [23:23] <xales> do you need help with something?
#3699 [23:24] <dopeghoti> not remotely.
#3700 [23:24] <xales> 1gb will most likely not be enough
#3701 [23:24] <xales> dopeghoti: no you
#3702 [23:24] <xales> :(
#3703 [23:24] <xales> ThePenguinDeveloper: the only way to know for sure is to test it
#3704 [23:24] <ThePenguinDeveloper> how?
#3705 [23:24] <ThePenguinDeveloper> oh
#3706 [23:24] <ThePenguinDeveloper> right
#3707 [23:24] <ThePenguinDeveloper> im bumd
#3708 [23:24] <ThePenguinDeveloper> dumb
#3709 [23:24] <ThePenguinDeveloper> ya ok
#3710 [23:24] <ThePenguinDeveloper> thanks
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#3713 [23:37] <tomjekyll> is beta multiplayer down or something? Cant seem to connect to any servers
#3714 [23:37] <xales> what do you see when you try to connect
#3715 [23:37] <tomjekyll> connection timeout
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#3717 [23:37] <xales> try connecting to smp.shadow-craft.net
#3718 [23:38] <tomjekyll> okay one sec
#3719 [23:38] <tomjekyll> oh cool that worked. Maybe it was that the IP was mistyped or server was down
#3720 [23:39] <xales> server was likely down then
#3721 [23:39] <xales> or ip mistype
#3722 [23:39] <tomjekyll> awesome! is this your server?
#3723 [23:39] <xales> nope
#3724 [23:39] <xales> friend of mine runs it
#3725 [23:39] <xales> if you want to build, say /registration on the server
#3726 [23:39] <tonkatim420> i keep getting black screened
#3727 [23:40] <xales> try playing single player
#3728 [23:40] <xales> see if the same problem happens
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#3730 [23:42] <tonkatim420> oh, i think i know what it was .. the render was set to far and not normal ..
#3731 [23:42] <tonkatim420> why does it crash when set to far ?
#3732 [23:43] <xales> probably your computer can't handle that
#3733 [23:43] <tonkatim420> oh believe me, my pc can handle it .. it handles crysis well ..
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#3735 [23:43] <xales> thats the only explanation >.>
#3736 [23:44] <xales> also, handling crysis is different from handling it with the graphics turned up
#3737 [23:44] <xales> :/
#3738 [23:44] <tonkatim420> my pc is top top of the line ... 6 months ago ..
#3739 [23:44] <xales> top of the line doesn't mean much, sadly :/
#3740 [23:44] <xales> what is the graphics card
#3741 [23:44] <xales> thats more important
#3742 [23:45] <tonkatim420> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4485017&csid=ITD&body=MAIN#detailspecs
#3743 [23:45] <dopeghoti> xales: you get a gold star for properly using 'different from' rather than 'different than' :D
#3744 [23:45] <tonkatim420> i've upgraded the Ram to 12GB
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#3746 [23:46] <xales> lol
#3747 [23:46] <xales> I've honestly tried to use more than 4GB of ram
#3748 [23:46] <xales> I couldn't do it without doing dumbass things
#3749 [23:46] <xales> like opening minecraft 10 mines
#3750 [23:46] <xales> I can't see a reason for more than 8gb, especially on a desktop :/
#3751 [23:46] <tonkatim420> vid card is ATI RADEON HD4850
#3752 [23:46] <xales> anyway
#3753 [23:46] <xales> I have no idea then
#3754 [23:46] <dopeghoti> xales: easy to do: minecraft + Civ V + VLC and a good movie :)
#3755 [23:47] <xales> dopeghoti: wouldn't use 4gb, lol
#3756 [23:47] <xales> say civ4 uses 2gb, minecraft uses 1gb, movie uses 500mb
#3757 [23:47] <dopeghoti> On the contrary
#3758 [23:47] <xales> >.>
#3759 [23:47] <dopeghoti> who said Civ IV?
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#3761 [23:47] <dopeghoti> and I said a _good_ movie ;)
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#3763 [23:48] <xales> civ5 = civ4, hit wrong key
#3764 [23:48] <xales> >.>
#3765 [23:48] <KillSpammer> :O
#3766 [23:48] <xales> also, 500mb = good movie
#3767 [23:48] <KillSpammer> Hi xales
#3768 [23:48] <KillSpammer> I have a 24hr ban from #minecraft
#3769 [23:49] <KillSpammer> :S
#3770 [23:49] <KillSpammer> Thanks miclee!
#3771 [23:49] <Miclee> Stop pinging me.
#3772 [23:49] <xales> lol
#3773 [23:49] <xales> congrats KillSpammer
#3774 [23:49] <tonkatim420> lulz
#3775 [23:49] <dopeghoti> KillSpammer: ProTip: Bugging the same op in another channel is not the way to get your ban anything other than extended.
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#3777 [23:49] <KillSpammer> Its a
#3778 [23:50] <KillSpammer> Semi-ProTip
#3779 [23:50] <KillSpammer> Now
#3780 [23:50] <KillSpammer> Anyone need help?
#3781 [23:50] <Miclee> ^flooding.
#3782 [23:50] <KillSpammer> ...
#3783 [23:50] <dopeghoti> \n != punctuation.
#3784 [23:50] <xales> \n == CAPSLOCK++
#3785 [23:51] <KillSpammer> Playing around with the bot?
#3786 [23:52] <xales> the bot?
#3787 [23:52] <Kealper> does justice need to be served or is it all in good fun?
#3788 [23:52] <xales> Kealpy
#3789 [23:52] <KillSpammer> What are you doing then?
#3790 [23:52] <xales> justice needs to be served
#3791 [23:52] <xales> I want a slap
#3792 [23:52] * Kealper kicked KillSpammer from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: KillSpammer)
#3793 [23:52] <Kealper> that justice?
#3794 [23:52] <Diablothein> Justice needs to be served, in the form of the Banhammer.
#3795 [23:52] <xales> lol
#3796 [23:52] <tonkatim420> lulz
#3797 [23:52] <xales> why not
#3798 [23:52] <xales> was that a knockout or kickban?
#3799 [23:52] <Diablothein> so, dudes and dudettes...
#3800 [23:52] <Kealper> kickban
#3801 [23:52] <ThePenguinDeveloper> srry to bother u guys again but how many players does 1 gb of memory take?
#3802 [23:52] <xales> leave it then :/
#3803 [23:52] <ThePenguinDeveloper> do u think?
#3804 [23:53] <xales> ThePenguinDeveloper: the memory usage fluctuates, but as I said, 100mb per player is a good estimate
#3805 [23:53] <Kealper> not like i can remove it...haven't tried doing that through irssi yet lol
#3806 [23:53] <xales> therefor, 10 players
#3807 [23:53] <xales> Kealper: /unban (host) or /mode -b
#3808 [23:53] <Diablothein> I applied, and I got hired! I now work for the Greyskull Power Company
#3809 [23:53] <ThePenguinDeveloper> ok thank you
#3810 [23:53] <ThePenguinDeveloper> good night
#3811 [23:53] <Kealper> i am way too lazy to copy that entire banmask
#3812 [23:53] <tonkatim420> Diablo, applied where?
#3813 [23:53] <Kealper> and he PMed me
#3814 [23:54] <Diablothein> ton, I applied to Greyskull Power Company, and they hired me on the spot.
#3815 [23:54] <xales> kealper
#3816 [23:54] <xales> you can use the ban number to unban
#3817 [23:54] <xales> say /mode +b (no argument, just +b)
#3818 [23:54] <xales> and it will list bans
#3819 [23:54] <xales> then /unban (ban number)
#3820 [23:54] <xales> or /unban -last
#3821 [23:54] <xales> just /help unban
#3822 [23:54] <xales> :)
#3823 [23:54] <Kealper> oh, ban numbers are nice
#3824 [23:55] <Kealper> this is what i get for being spoiled with gui clients
#3825 [23:55] <Kealper> right click > show ban list > remove ban lol
#3826 [23:55] <xales> lol
#3827 [23:55] <xales> its close enough
#3828 [23:55] <xales> without the mouse-pumping
#3829 [23:55] <xales> to power your computer
#3830 [23:56] <Kealper> lol
#3831 [23:56] <Kealper> so like....seriously was he being annoying? i'd hate to have banned him for no good reason
#3832 [23:56] <xales> yes
#3833 [23:56] <xales> he got banned from #minecraft too
#3834 [23:57] <xales> I'd say its on the line if he should be banned, but
#3835 [23:57] <xales> I don't think he wanted to help people or get help, he just came in to whine about his ban
#3836 [23:57] <Kealper> ohreally?
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#3838 [23:57] <Kealper> then i think i'll keep that ban in there if he just was bitching about being banned from #minecraft
#3839 [23:58] <xales> long paste, excuse me
#3840 [23:58] <xales> 23:48:01 -!- KillSpammer [Mibbit@CPE-139-168-162-145.lns10.woo.bigpond.net.au] has joined #MineCraftHelp
#3841 [23:58] <xales> 23:48:24 <+xales> civ5 = civ4, hit wrong key
#3842 [23:58] <xales> 23:48:25 <+xales> >.>
#3843 [23:58] <xales> 23:48:33 < KillSpammer> :O
#3844 [23:58] <xales> 23:48:35 <+xales> also, 500mb = good movie
#3845 [23:58] <xales> 23:48:37 < KillSpammer> Hi xales
#3846 [23:58] <xales> 23:48:59 < KillSpammer> I have a 24hr ban from #minecraft
#3847 [23:59] <xales> he just came in to whine
#3848 [23:59] <xales> :/