#1 [00:00] * Kealper yawns
#1 [00:00] <Kealper> that was a boooring documentary like 4 hours ago
#2 [00:00] <xales> Kealpy
#3 [00:00] <xales> you were gone ALL DAY
#4 [00:00] <xales> D:
#5 [00:01] <Kealper> nuhuh
#6 [00:01] <Diablothein> Kealpybby!
#7 [00:01] <Kealper> i had the shows on my first monitor, but kept my irc monitor on so i could watch, then i got to this one docuemntary.....and it knocked me right out lol
#8 [00:02] <xales> ...
#9 [00:02] <xales> I pinged you
#10 [00:02] <xales> had your sound off?
#11 [00:02] <Kealper> that was only 2.5 hours ago though lol
#12 [00:02] <xales> .___.
#13 [00:03] <xales> I can't even remember what I wanted you for
#14 [00:03] <Kealper> diablo said something about he's back.....idk
#15 [00:03] <Diablothein> Ghoti left in the middle of a tech support, I called you in to finish it, cause I was doing homework.
#16 [00:03] <xales> it was KillSpammar he was talking about
#17 [00:03] <Diablothein> Still should be
#18 [00:03] <Diablothein> That too
#19 [00:05] <Kealper> oh, and oh lol
#20 [00:05] <Kealper> xales is more than competent enough to finish the support job >.>
#21 [00:05] <Diablothein> So?
#22 [00:05] <Kealper> was the guy that bad? lol
#23 [00:07] <Diablothein> Yes, oh, you missed the nude pics xales posted of himself a while back.
#24 [00:07] <xales> I would repost em but I want kealper to scroll up
#25 [00:07] <Kealper> as hot as that sounds, i'll have to pass lol
#26 [00:11] <Diablothein> So... isometric rubik's cube,... thoughts?
#27 [00:12] <Kealper> all rubiks cubes are isometric
#28 [00:12] <Diablothein> I was asking on whether or not to draw that.
#29 [00:13] <Kealper> but it would just be a normal rubiks cube :/
#30 [00:13] <Diablothein> forfucksakes
#31 [00:13] <Diablothein> I need an idea to draw in my sketchbook
#32 [00:14] <KillSpammar> How dare you fail at saying my name!
#33 [00:14] <KillSpammar> I did that on purpose!
#34 [00:14] <Kealper> oh.....a rubiks cube would work then
#35 [00:14] <Diablothein> as for the isometric part, not do a depth style drawing, but just draw it isometric style
#36 [00:15] <Diablothein> like so, this, is a depth drawing of one: http://www.mathfail.com/rubiks-cube.jpg
#37 [00:15] <Kealper> Notch is now enough of a celebrity to have his twitter account verified lol
#38 [00:15] <Kealper> so like...just drawing a head-on view of one?
#39 [00:17] <Diablothein> That's what that is, it has the physical depth, but in isometric depth, the side closest to you will be the same length as the sides furthest, ugh, I dunno how to explain it.
#40 [00:17] <Diablothein> I'll just draw a roll of duct tape.
#41 [00:17] <Kealper> lol
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#43 [00:20] <Diablothein> Or maybe I should draw a creeper...
#44 [00:20] <xales> nobody likes self-portraits
#45 [00:21] <Diablothein> xales, if I were to do a self portrait, it would look Thor-like
#46 [00:22] <xales> creeper-like
#47 [00:22] <Diablothein> mv xales /dev/null -like
#48 [00:23] <Diablothein> http://penguingeek.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/humor-penguin-logic.jpg?w=432&h=436
#49 [00:23] <xales> dd if=/dev/null of=diablothein count=1024
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#52 [00:33] * Kealper is now playing Just Cause 2
#52 [00:34] <xales> bad Kealper
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#54 [00:41] <Xerati> that's an awesome game
#55 [00:41] <Xerati> if it had multiplayer, i'd have lost many hours of my life
#56 [00:41] <Xerati> well, many more than currently lost
#57 [00:44] <Kealper> yeah, if this game had coop multiplayer, it would have literally been the best game since Doom
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#60 [00:53] <Diablothein> Kealper, best game since Doom?
#61 [00:53] <Diablothein> Doom 64
#62 [00:53] <Kealper> youngin
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#65 [00:59] * Kealper waits for stupid imgur uploader
#65 [00:59] <Kealper> finnally...
#66 [00:59] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/hFAff.jpg
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#68 [01:00] <twobitsprite> good evening/morning/etc...
#69 [01:00] <Kealper> hello
#70 [01:00] <twobitsprite> I'm setting up a new minecraft server, but I'm having a hard time finding a good admin guide... I have the server running, but I have some other questions
#71 [01:01] <Kealper> well, ask away, i'd be happy to answer lol
#72 [01:01] <twobitsprite> I've been on mc servers before where the spawn area was built up, but indestructable... it had some kind of admin lock on the blocks around it... how do I set that up?
#73 [01:02] <Kealper> that is enabled by default for all non-operators
#74 [01:03] <Kealper> so if you are set in the ops.txt of a server, you can build on spawn
#75 [01:03] <twobitsprite> Kealper: I'm not sure I understand... you mean that other players won't be able to build on spawn by default?
#76 [01:04] <Kealper> correct
#77 [01:04] <twobitsprite> ahh, right on
#78 [01:04] <ConMan8> It's an anti-greifing measure
#79 [01:04] <Kealper> only server admins of that server can build on spawn
#80 [01:04] <Kealper> what he said
#81 [01:04] <ConMan8> So people can't just make a lava lake at the spawn or something
#82 [01:04] <twobitsprite> how big is the spawn area and how do I find the boundaries of it (other than repeatedly killing myself and bookmarking where I spawn :P)
#83 [01:05] <Kealper> i believe by default it's a 16 block radius from the spawn point center
#84 [01:05] <Kealper> and you can spawn anywhere within that radius
#85 [01:05] <twobitsprite> ok, cool... how do I know where the spawn center is?
#86 [01:06] <ConMan8> You can make a border
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#88 [01:06] <Kealper> deop yourself and just try to place blocks closer and closer to where you spawn at, when they start disappearing, you know you found the spawn porint lol
#89 [01:06] <Kealper> point*
#90 [01:09] <twobitsprite> I suppose that works :P
#91 [01:10] <Xerati> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16597026/2011-01-06_22.06.11.png
#92 [01:10] <Xerati> i dun wrong
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#94 [01:11] <lemon-rev> u trying to create a fort out of trees or smethng
#95 [01:11] <lemon-rev> lol
#96 [01:11] <lemon-rev> something*
#97 [01:11] <Kealper> holy crap
#98 [01:12] <Kealper> are those natural? lol
#99 [01:12] <lemon-rev> nothing is natural with trees if you plant them too close togeather
#100 [01:12] <Kealper> lol
#101 [01:13] <xales> Kealpy
#102 [01:13] <xales> you play nethack?
#103 [01:14] <Xerati> lol
#104 [01:14] <Xerati> i modded it
#105 [01:14] <Kealper> no, i lost interest after i found that telnet is totally blocked on this server
#106 [01:14] <Xerati> server side
#107 [01:14] <Xerati> 80% of trees grow big, like in the pic
#108 [01:14] <xales> Kealper: :'(
#109 [01:14] <Xerati> within 30 seconds
#110 [01:14] <xales> use a different port?
#111 [01:15] <Kealper> that'll probably be blocked too, the firewall on this thing is way too strict
#112 [01:15] <Xerati> the ones to the left was the beginning of testing, and the center was the final version
#113 [01:15] <Kealper> i know the root info for this server, but not where to find the firewall to add an exception so....doesn't do me much good :/
#114 [01:16] <Kealper> and lol
#115 [01:16] <Xerati> what os?
#116 [01:16] <Kealper> this one?
#117 [01:16] <xales> Kealper: is it using iptables?
#118 [01:16] <Kealper> cent 5 :/
#119 [01:16] <Xerati> for the server
#120 [01:16] <Kealper> xales: no idea, i wasn't the one who set it up
#121 [01:16] <Xerati> nvm anyways, it's been too long
#122 [01:16] <Xerati> and i'm more familiar with ipfw
#123 [01:16] <xales> if its a software firewall I can help you add an exception
#124 [01:17] <xales> ask your brother or whoever set it up
#125 [01:17] <Kealper> it's probably something though webmin, but meh
#126 [01:17] <xales> webmin would use iptables
#127 [01:17] <xales> Kealper: run "iptables -L"
#128 [01:17] <xales> very important the caps on the L
#129 [01:18] <Kealper> lol
#130 [01:18] <Kealper> command not found O.o
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#132 [01:18] <xales> lulz
#133 [01:19] <Xerati> ipfw?
#134 [01:19] <xales> possibly a hardware firewall?
#135 [01:19] <Xerati> doubt it
#136 [01:19] <Xerati> not for something like t hat at least
#137 [01:19] <xales> ipfw is a bsd thing
#138 [01:19] <Xerati> i <3 bsd :P
#139 [01:19] <Xerati> never used cent though, so wouldn't have known
#140 [01:19] <xales> cent is garbage
#141 [01:19] <xales> utter shit
#142 [01:20] <Kealper> +1
#143 [01:20] <Xerati> and what do you think of ubuntu?
#144 [01:20] <Xerati> for clients
#145 [01:20] <xales> ubuntu is ok I guess...
#146 [01:20] <xales> for clients...it just obscures things that shouldnt be obscured
#147 [01:20] <Xerati> ubuntu singlehandedly cut the nix user community IQ in half
#148 [01:20] <xales> which in the end makes it more complicated
#149 [01:20] <xales> and makes it too easy to use
#150 [01:21] * Kealper bets that the first major real virus outbreak for linux happens on Ubuntu systems
#150 [01:21] * xales is sure it will
#150 [01:21] <Xerati> the only major virus outbreaks are the users themselves
#151 [01:22] <xales> and that it will be because the users are retarded
#152 [01:22] <Xerati> ^^
#153 [01:22] <Kealper> imo parts of what protected linux all these years is the fact that no one under a 130 IQ is using it
#154 [01:22] <xales> linux isn't virus proof
#155 [01:22] <xales> you just gotta be a fucktard to get a virus
#156 [01:22] <Kealper> indeed
#157 [01:22] <xales> drive-by proof, more like it
#158 [01:22] <Kealper> (like clone running irc as root -.-)
#159 [01:23] <xales> hehehehe
#160 [01:24] <Kealper> although, windows' main problem with security is that it's akin to running everything as root all the time
#161 [01:24] <xales> and users are as dumb as they come
#162 [01:24] <CornstarchPudding> I AM CORNSTARCH PUDDING
#163 [01:24] <Kealper> and vista/7 changed that with UAC, making it act like sudo...but the users are still dumb enough to enter their password in and click ok most of the time :/
#164 [01:25] <Kealper> con i won't lie, i almost kb'd you until i looked up and seen that was you and not a random lol
#165 [01:25] <Xerati> Would you like to install this application you want to install, with the added bonus of spyware? Yes or no?
#166 [01:25] <Xerati> Yes
#167 [01:25] <CornstarchPudding> Because I'm awesome like that
#168 [01:26] <xales> you can bypass UAC without much difficulty
#169 [01:26] <xales> if you are running as a priviledged user you can circumvent it
#170 [01:26] <Kealper> vista just failed miserably on all counts with the whole temporary heightend privs....but 7 got it quite right
#171 [01:26] <xales> there kernel api call to set security descriptors isn't one that needs uac approval
#172 [01:26] <xales> and you can set uac-approved on yourself
#173 [01:26] <xales> ._.
#174 [01:27] <Kealper> orly? that's a bit of a hole lol
#175 [01:27] <xales> yourself being the process
#176 [01:27] <Kealper> i figured lol
#177 [01:27] <xales> its windows...
#178 [01:27] <xales> it has holes
#179 [01:27] <Xerati> LOL
#180 [01:27] <xales> bigger than the ones on a pornstar
#181 [01:27] <Xerati> the trees, from "far" away look like mountain ranges
#182 [01:27] <Xerati> XD!
#183 [01:27] <Kealper> o.o
#184 [01:28] * Kealper sighs
#184 [01:29] * Kealper checked, and sure enough there is a _Security_AdjustTokenPrivleges() wrapper call to an api, that lets you set access flags
#184 [01:29] <Xerati> if anyone wants to mess around on my giant tree testing server, lemme know
#185 [01:30] <xales> lol Kealpy
#186 [01:30] <xales> don't you just love Micro$haft
#187 [01:30] <Xerati> psht
#188 [01:30] <Xerati> i work there
#189 [01:30] <Kealper> hmm.....
#190 [01:30] <Kealper> looking at the remarks on this function though....
#191 [01:31] <Kealper> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16597026/2011-01-06_22.06.11.png
#192 [01:31] <Kealper> whoops
#193 [01:31] <Kealper> copy fail
#194 [01:31] <Kealper> This function cannot add new privileges to an access token. It can only enable or disable the token's existing privileges.
#195 [01:31] <Kealper> guess that means it can't flag itself as uac-allowed
#196 [01:31] <xales> it can
#197 [01:32] <xales> the ones arleady existing include uac
#198 [01:32] * Kealper sighs then
#198 [01:32] <Xerati> lol
#199 [01:33] <Kealper> i'd try it out but using this requires a few low-level calls to set stuff up for the function, and that stuff takes time to write
#200 [01:34] <xales> do it in C then
#201 [01:34] <xales> not autoit
#202 [01:35] <Kealper> well i just don't want to do it in autoit because it would take a lot of lines...if i did it in C it'd still take a lot of lines lol
#203 [01:35] <Kealper> basically what i'm trying to say is i'm too lazy to try it out lol
#204 [01:37] <xales> not really
#205 [01:37] <xales> it would be 10 lines in C
#206 [01:37] <xales> ._.
#207 [01:39] <Kealper> 10 lines = more work than i want to do right now, because i'd have to see what i would have to do via msdn or something lol
#208 [01:39] <Kealper> never bothered trying to change security privs
#209 [01:40] <xales> lol
#210 [01:40] <twobitsprite> what happens if I build a "second floor" in the spawn area?
#211 [01:40] <Kealper> you spawn on that second floor
#212 [01:40] <twobitsprite> so, you spawn on the highest block?
#213 [01:40] <Kealper> yea
#214 [01:41] <twobitsprite> awesome
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#216 [02:05] <Mikau> If you want a really interesting thing to do, build yourself a nice house in the spawn area with a roof.
#217 [02:05] <Mikau> Build a moat around the house.
#218 [02:06] <Mikau> Then go on the roof and break a hole where the spawn tile is, so you spawn inside of the house instead of the roof.
#219 [02:06] <Kealper> my spawn on myserver is nice and pretty like that lol
#220 [02:06] <Mikau> Then put a glass barrier around the hold, and completely flood the roof with water(it will fall into the moat)
#221 [02:06] <Mikau> hole*, not hold
#222 [02:06] <Kealper> eh?
#223 [02:06] <Kealper> what's that for? lol
#224 [02:06] <Mikau> For amusement.
#225 [02:06] <Kealper> lol
#226 [02:07] <Mikau> put a hood type roof over the entrance to stop water from falling over the door
#227 [02:08] <aetherian> better yet
#228 [02:08] <aetherian> use lava not water
#229 [02:09] <xales> Kealpy
#230 [02:09] <xales> can you help me
#231 [02:09] <Kealper> depends
#232 [02:09] <xales> kealpy why wont u help meeee
#233 [02:09] <xales> :'(
#234 [02:10] <xales> oh kealper
#235 [02:10] <xales> actually, better take that to query. here
#236 [02:10] <Mikau> http://i56.tinypic.com/fzcikw.png
#237 [02:10] <Mikau> See?
#238 [02:11] <genshou> evening Minecrafters ^_^
#239 [02:11] <xales> evening minecrafter *_*
#240 [02:12] <aetherian> mikau
#241 [02:12] <aetherian> that cobble looks silly
#242 [02:12] <aetherian> :3
#243 [02:12] <genshou> xales, y so *
#244 [02:12] <Mikau> I haven't used that texture pack in forever.
#245 [02:12] <aetherian> ugh
#246 [02:12] <aetherian> I got a couple packs
#247 [02:12] <aetherian> used a couple
#248 [02:13] <Mikau> I use bumpmaft.
#249 [02:13] <aetherian> clicked to go back on the classic
#250 [02:13] * genshou highfives Mikau
#250 [02:13] <Mikau> with the lighting / grass
#251 [02:13] <aetherian> and it fethed up
#252 [02:13] <Mikau> hi5
#253 [02:13] <aetherian> as in
#254 [02:13] <aetherian> now
#255 [02:13] <genshou> only problem with that one is it makes pigs look scary ;v
#256 [02:13] <Mikau> They do
#257 [02:13] <aetherian> it shows my thing as being classic
#258 [02:13] <Mikau> It's the eyes
#259 [02:13] <aetherian> yet
#260 [02:13] <genshou> yeah, those beady little eyes D:
#261 [02:13] <Mikau> The eyes on those pigs just Are. Not. Right.
#262 [02:13] <aetherian> it's a combination of classic and others
#263 [02:13] <aetherian> like, a combo of three packs
#264 [02:13] <aetherian> something bugged it up
#265 [02:14] <genshou> but yeah, Bumpmaft + occlusion lighting + Mo' Creatures + my Alchemcraft recipes = happy gengen
#266 [02:14] <aetherian> alchem? never heard of it
#267 [02:14] <genshou> aetherian, I made my own custom recipes
#268 [02:15] <aetherian> hmm
#269 [02:15] <Mikau> Bumpmaft just comes with the grass/lighting stuff now
#270 [02:15] <genshou> redstone + base ingredient + finished product = more of finished product
#271 [02:15] <aetherian> hey guys
#272 [02:15] <genshou> e.g. redstone + coal + diamond = more diamond
#273 [02:15] <aetherian> anyone here use linux?
#274 [02:15] <aetherian> as in
#275 [02:15] <Mikau> Could I get a link to that alchemcraft?
#276 [02:15] <aetherian> just wondering
#277 [02:16] <aetherian> like
#278 [02:16] <aetherian> what flavour is the best
#279 [02:18] <xales> kealper
#280 [02:18] <xales> dumbest #minecraft troll
#281 [02:18] <xales> http://darksigns.net/doomthroughdoom.log
#282 [02:18] <xales> thusfar anyway
#283 [02:22] <Kealper> this person truely has the IQ of a dead monkey, i'm astounded lol
#284 [02:22] <Xerati> shhh
#285 [02:22] <Xerati> don't hurt it
#286 [02:22] <Xerati> keep it in a cage
#287 [02:22] <Kealper> lol
#288 [02:22] <Xerati> genshou, betch
#289 [02:25] <xales> Kealper: its only the lines with his name in it, as I assume you can see
#290 [02:25] <xales> but even so...you get most of the picture
#291 [02:25] <xales> he was also evading a ban on the mc forums
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#294 [02:26] <aetherian> liquid oxygen - bringing a whole new meaning to omgwtfbbq
#295 [02:26] <Kealper> xales: yeah, i figured you stripped out crap others were saying
#296 [02:26] <genshou> Xerati?
#297 [02:27] <xales> just a grep on the log ;)
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#299 [02:29] <Kealper> that is one persistant troll
#300 [02:29] <xales> indeed
#301 [02:29] <Xerati> genshou
#302 [02:29] <Xerati> sup
#303 [02:29] <genshou> xD
#304 [02:29] <Xerati> where you been honey
#305 [02:30] <genshou> finished with some more moving crap
#306 [02:30] <Xerati> i missed you
#307 [02:30] <Xerati> ahh right
#308 [02:30] <Xerati> forgot
#309 [02:30] <Xerati> in the new place?
#310 [02:30] <genshou> not atm
#311 [02:30] <genshou> I haven't moved a bed yet xD
#312 [02:30] <Xerati> dude
#313 [02:30] <Xerati> sec
#314 [02:30] <Xerati> Kealper, got my pic from earlier?
#315 [02:30] <Xerati> by chance?
#316 [02:30] <genshou> kinky
#317 [02:30] <Xerati> it is, actually
#318 [02:30] <Kealper> uhh....nope :/
#319 [02:30] <Xerati> you accipasted it
#320 [02:30] <Xerati> lol
#321 [02:30] <Xerati> [22:30:49] <@Kealper> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16597026/2011-01-06_22.06.11.png
#322 [02:30] <Xerati> thar
#323 [02:31] <Kealper> OH
#324 [02:31] <Kealper> yea i seen that
#325 [02:31] <Xerati> obviously
#326 [02:31] <Xerati> i was asking for the link
#327 [02:31] <Xerati> for genshou
#328 [02:31] <Xerati> lol
#329 [02:31] <Kealper> oh lol
#330 [02:31] <genshou> needs moar trunk
#331 [02:31] <Xerati> yeh
#332 [02:31] <Xerati> you can just put like 10 together for that effect
#333 [02:31] <Xerati> lol
#334 [02:32] <genshou> Right now what little time I have on MC I'm spending in single player
#335 [02:32] <Xerati> :<
#336 [02:32] <genshou> testing & balancing my alchemy recipes (also playing with horses)
#337 [02:33] * Kealper coughs and mumbles #mcchatter
#337 [02:33] * Xerati scrolls up to previous convo's
#337 [02:33] * genshou coughs and mumbles "do people actually talk there"
#337 [02:33] <Kealper> idk, never been there
#338 [02:34] <genshou> :D
#339 [02:34] <Xerati> neither have i
#340 [02:34] <Xerati> just joined lol
#341 [02:35] <Xerati> Mikau
#342 [02:35] <Xerati> what texture pack is that?
#343 [02:36] <TrueWolves> they do sometimes
#344 [02:36] <TrueWolves> might as well start to now
#345 [02:36] <genshou> Well anyway, if people don't need help we should talk, not just stare at the walls in silence? :D
#346 [02:36] <genshou> And what better thing to talk about than Minecraft :3
#347 [02:36] <aetherian> um
#348 [02:37] <aetherian> dru-
#349 [02:37] <aetherian> I mean
#350 [02:37] <aetherian> erm yeah
#351 [02:37] <Xerati> on that note, i help if people need help
#352 [02:37] <genshou> beer is good.
#353 [02:37] <Xerati> i like milk
#354 [02:37] <Xerati> grr, bad genshou
#355 [02:37] <Kealper> True is alive? i dun believe
#356 [02:37] <genshou> What? I unwind with a tall one after every shift (so, 6 days a week)
#357 [02:38] <Xerati> lol
#358 [02:38] <Xerati> i never wind up
#359 [02:38] <Kealper> and what's with people pressing enter 5 times while trying to type one sentence -.-
#360 [02:38] <Xerati> are you referring to me?
#361 [02:38] <genshou> Kealper
#362 [02:38] <genshou> it's called
#363 [02:38] <Kealper> quite a few in here do it :/
#364 [02:38] <genshou> Shatnerese
#365 [02:38] <genshou> google it
#366 [02:38] <genshou> :)
#367 [02:39] <Xerati> it's called irc O_o, or any kind of quick text type communication
#368 [02:39] <genshou> ^
#369 [02:39] <Xerati> it's extremely normal and common
#370 [02:39] <aetherian> yeah
#371 [02:39] <aetherian> it is
#372 [02:39] <aetherian> isn't it
#373 [02:39] <Xerati> we're not writing books/paragraphs
#374 [02:39] <Xerati> but yes, spam like aetherian is annoying <_<
#375 [02:39] <Xerati> i try to keep each thought on a line
#376 [02:39] <aetherian> mmyes
#377 [02:39] <aetherian> you should permban him
#378 [02:40] * Kealper sets mode +b on aetherian!*@* [#MineCraftHelp]
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#379 [02:40] <Kealper> that probably looked fake as heck to people on other clients
#380 [02:41] <aetherian> hmm
#381 [02:41] <aetherian> well, if I kept each thought on a line, then my thoughts wouldn't be all loopy
#382 [02:41] <aetherian> thus, they would cease to be my thoughts
#383 [02:41] <aetherian> haar har
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#385 [02:41] <Kealper> {CS}?
#386 [02:41] <xales> alt nick
#387 [02:42] <Kealper> yea, just noticed the ping timeout lol
#388 [02:42] <aetherian> and on mine
#389 [02:42] <aetherian> but morseo a knowing kind of look
#390 [02:42] <aetherian> anyway
#391 [02:42] <aetherian> you got the wrong guy
#392 [02:42] <aetherian> you should set a ban on
#393 [02:42] <aetherian> *!*@*
#394 [02:42] <aetherian> iirc
#395 [02:42] <xales> aetherian
#396 [02:42] <xales> use more newline please
#397 [02:42] <xales> U
#398 [02:42] <xales> S
#399 [02:42] <xales> E
#400 [02:42] <xales> I
#401 [02:42] <xales> T
#402 [02:42] <xales> M
#403 [02:42] <Kealper> lawd!
#404 [02:42] <xales> O
#405 [02:42] <xales> R
#406 [02:42] <aetherian> use what?
#407 [02:42] <xales> E
#408 [02:42] <xales> newlines
#409 [02:42] <feenyx> geez
#410 [02:42] <Kealper> will ban for newlines
#411 [02:42] * feenyx nods at Kealper
#411 [02:42] <xales> \n
#412 [02:42] <xales> \n
#413 [02:42] <xales> \n
#414 [02:43] * xales hides behind feenyx
#414 [02:43] <aetherian> well
#415 [02:43] <aetherian> I would hate to get banned
#416 [02:43] <aetherian> wouldn't I
#417 [02:43] <feenyx> it's a filthy habit, and probably won't do much for your everyday grammar either
#418 [02:43] <xales> *Kealper uses Ban!
#419 [02:43] <Kealper> that was actually directed at xales, but goes for anyone else typing like a chimp on a keyboard -.-
#420 [02:43] <xales> *Kealper swings his ban hammer
#421 [02:43] <xales> *ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE
#422 [02:43] <Xerati> lol
#423 [02:44] * xales sets mode +b *!*@* [#minecrafthelp]
#423 [02:44] <genshou> all kidding aside, I try to keep my thoughts to one line, but my mind tends to... jump off the rails a lot :v
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#425 [02:44] <aetherian> a wild xales appears
#426 [02:44] <aetherian> hmm
#427 [02:44] <Kealper> :/
#428 [02:44] <aetherian> my train of thought got lost in the mountain years ago
#429 [02:44] <feenyx> sometimes the newline helps illustrate a point you're trying to make, but the effect sort of dissipates if you do it all the time
#430 [02:44] <genshou> If you find my train of thought, please give it fuel and send it back
#431 [02:44] <aetherian> and half the time, I don't even know what anyone's even talking about
#432 [02:45] <aetherian> ooh
#433 [02:45] <aetherian> if you find my train of thought, don't eat the bibers in there
#434 [02:45] <aetherian> those are my special swiss num nums
#435 [02:45] <Kealper> about the only thing i newline for is if i totally butchered a word's spelling and correct it, or if i forgot an "lol"
#436 [02:45] <xales> or
#437 [02:45] <xales> if
#438 [02:45] <xales> you
#439 [02:45] <xales> want
#440 [02:45] <xales> to
#441 [02:46] <xales> get
#442 [02:46] <xales> banned
#443 [02:46] <Kealper> oh god
#444 [02:46] <xales> </end newline spam>
#445 [02:46] <aetherian> methinks you overdid it, xally
#446 [02:46] <Kealper> +v does not shield against +b >.>
#447 [02:46] <xales> xally?
#448 [02:46] <aetherian> uh oh
#449 [02:46] <aetherian> yeah
#450 [02:46] <aetherian> xally
#451 [02:46] <feenyx> Mustang Xally
#452 [02:46] <aetherian> there's xally, kelly, feeny
#453 [02:47] <aetherian> you know
#454 [02:47] <Kealper> i'm seriously going to op aubot and make it kick anyone who says kelly or kealpy
#455 [02:47] <xales> :(
#456 [02:47] <aetherian> haha
#457 [02:47] <Kealper> this network needs halfops -.-
#458 [02:47] <xales> halfops are stupid
#459 [02:47] <xales> % is an ugly symbol
#460 [02:47] <xales> ugly, ugly, ugly
#461 [02:48] <Kealper> but it's a useful symbol for bots
#462 [02:48] <aetherian> ugh hey you
#463 [02:48] <xales> idiotbots like aubot, yes
#464 [02:48] <aetherian> know any way to make it so that, in xchat, it uses symbols not colors?
#465 [02:48] <xales> !enable
#466 [02:48] <aetherian> colors suck
#467 [02:48] <xales> I doubt this is possible
#468 [02:48] <Kealper> uhh...huh?
#469 [02:48] <xales> try looking in gasp the settings panel
#470 [02:49] <aetherian> I looked there before
#471 [02:49] <aetherian> I shall look again!
#472 [02:49] * Kealper looks over Google
#472 [02:49] <xales> then its probably not available
#473 [02:49] <Kealper> dangit
#474 [02:49] <xales> this is what you get for using a bad client
#475 [02:49] <xales> ;)
#476 [02:49] * Kealper looks over Google's translate api
#476 [02:49] <aetherian> hey, I think that kelly was first a masculine name
#477 [02:50] <aetherian> and if you ban people who say kelly/kealpy, then I shall just have to make up other names.
#478 [02:50] <aetherian> :)
#479 [02:50] <Kealper> i never said ban, just kick
#480 [02:51] <aetherian> doesn't matter
#481 [02:51] <aetherian> given what I said
#482 [02:51] <Kealper> i'd never trust a bot with the ability to ban :/
#483 [02:51] <Xerati> lol
#484 [02:51] <aetherian> well, then, it won't kick either
#485 [02:51] <Xerati> it's good if you know how to code irc bots
#486 [02:51] <Xerati> which was my specialty for 3 years
#487 [02:51] <aetherian> oh I see what you mean
#488 [02:51] <aetherian> nvm
#489 [02:51] <Kealper> bans and kicks are two different things
#490 [02:51] <Xerati> what a waste of time
#491 [02:52] <aetherian> I thought you meant something else kealps
#492 [02:52] <Kealper> Xerati: yeah, i did quite the work on irc bots too....all it did was teach me that irc sucks lol
#493 [02:52] <Xerati> irc is awesome
#494 [02:52] <Xerati> which is why i'm rarely on it >_>
#495 [02:53] <aetherian> lameo
#496 [02:53] <Kealper> lol
#497 [02:53] <xales> irc is a simple protocol
#498 [02:53] <xales> kealpy, write an ssh bot or ssh chat server
#499 [02:53] <Xerati> i wrote a mirc script that emulated a full server, to the point i connected to my network as a linked server
#500 [02:53] <Kealper> xales: buggy, but done
#501 [02:53] <xales> ._.
#502 [02:53] <aetherian> yeah, write a SSH thing so that you won't be talking all the time
#503 [02:53] <aetherian> :D
#504 [02:53] <Xerati> -.-
#505 [02:53] <aetherian> badum tisch
#506 [02:54] <Xerati> slap aetherian with a little +b ~q: action
#507 [02:54] <Kealper> it's not actually SSH, but it's got the ability to use quite a nice method to encrypting packets
#508 [02:54] <xales> well then
#509 [02:54] <xales> do SSH
#510 [02:54] <xales> its a bit more advanced than symmetric encryption
#511 [02:54] <Kealper> my method uses less overhead though :/
#512 [02:54] <xales> but much less secure
#513 [02:54] <aetherian> xerati, go jump in a pool of lava whilst cutting off your genitals with a rusty butter knife
#514 [02:54] <aetherian> >:O
#515 [02:55] <Kealper> idk, randomly generated encryption keys every 60 sec is not too bad
#516 [02:55] <Xerati> aetherian, do you even know what ~q: means?
#517 [02:55] <xales> Kealper: the keys have to be shared, amirite?
#518 [02:55] <xales> MitM = pwned
#519 [02:56] <Kealper> sadly, it's RC4....but that could be changed to other things..i only chose RC4 since it was the least number of lines possible
#520 [02:56] <Kealper> and yea, that's the only issue with it
#521 [02:56] <xales> HAHAHAHA
#522 [02:56] <xales> 02:55:37 [espernet] [notice(aetherian)] You have one [1] new messages from xales. type "/server messages read xales 0" to read the message
#523 [02:56] <Kealper> if you can get the first packet it sends after requesting encryption, you can snag the key, but if you don't get that, you can't crack it
#524 [02:56] <xales> I can't believe that worked
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#527 [02:56] <aetherian> fuck you >.>
#528 [02:56] <xales> lol aetherian, pwned
#529 [02:56] <Kealper> wait what?
#530 [02:57] <aetherian> it's too late for me
#531 [02:57] <Xerati> om
#532 [02:57] <Xerati> omg
#533 [02:57] <xales> Kealper: I got him with the old /server thing
#534 [02:57] <Kealper> LOL
#535 [02:57] <Xerati> bad xales
#536 [02:57] <aetherian> lawl
#537 [02:57] <Xerati> xD
#538 [02:57] <Kealper> had to read it again to see that lol
#539 [02:57] <Xerati> i haven't seen that one in awhile
#540 [02:58] <aetherian> xales: go jump in a blazing pool of burning sulphur whilst using a rusty nail to slowly hack away at your genitals. and don't come back.
#541 [02:58] <aetherian> >:
#542 [02:58] <aetherian> and ima go to bed
#543 [02:58] * aetherian is away: beddy by time
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#544 [03:00] <kmo> do any of u guys know if they will make the the minecraft server give command allow for using the item name and not it's number? i found some server mods but they are for windows and im running ubuntu
#545 [03:00] <Kealper> it's possible that they might do that
#546 [03:01] <kmo> seems much more convenient (of course i know the point of the game is to mine the items :P )
#547 [03:01] <feenyx> it's never gonna be in the core game, though
#548 [03:01] <lukegb> And hMod lets you do that and it's not specifically for windows, though it's reaching EoL.
#549 [03:01] <kmo> o really? i only saw .bat files in it
#550 [03:01] <genshou> /sadness
#551 [03:01] <kmo> that's the one i downloaded
#552 [03:01] <he_who_slumbers> ugh, I'm so not gonna be able to get to sleep
#553 [03:01] * he_who_slumbers is back (gone 00:03:08)
#553 [03:02] <Kealper> that away script is just beautiful, i wish we all ran it
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#555 [03:04] <xales> can we have a rule
#556 [03:04] <he_who_slumbers> slashmebrbmaybe
#557 [03:04] <xales> no dumbass away scripts
#558 [03:04] <xales> please
#559 [03:04] <xales> kealpy
#560 [03:04] <he_who_slumbers> away scripts?
#561 [03:04] <Kealper> what about awesome screen detaching scripts?
#562 [03:04] <xales> 03:01:47 * he_who_slumbers is back (gone 00:03:08)
#563 [03:04] <he_who_slumbers> oh
#564 [03:04] <he_who_slumbers> haha
#565 [03:04] <xales> Kealper: at least it doesn't spam the poor channels you are in
#566 [03:04] <he_who_slumbers> deal with it, it's just one thing
#567 [03:05] <he_who_slumbers> I mean
#568 [03:05] <ConMan8> he_who_slumbers: Short sleep
#569 [03:05] <he_who_slumbers> my talking is more spammy than those
#570 [03:05] <xales> I mean, who the fuck cares that you are away
#571 [03:05] <he_who_slumbers> kelly does.
#572 [03:05] <xales> or back, or for what reason, or for how long
#573 [03:05] * ConMan8 is not away
#573 [03:05] <Kealper> i was unaware that i cared
#574 [03:05] * he_who_slumbers is away (away for a little, and kealpy, you learn something new every day)
#574 [03:06] <he_who_slumbers> <3
#575 [03:06] <Kealper> /nerdrages
#576 [03:06] <he_who_slumbers> /hugs
#577 [03:06] <genshou> /say command wins
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#579 [03:13] * feenyx breaks 2 minutes of silence
#579 [03:13] * GreyVulpine breaks feenyx
#579 [03:14] <Kealper> this api for google translate seems rather simple and lol grey
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#581 [03:18] * Mikau breaks wind.
#581 [03:20] <ConMan8> neh
#582 [03:27] <genshou> Creepers make the OCD in me cry.
#583 [03:28] <Kealper> lol
#584 [03:28] <Xerati> no need for /say
#585 [03:28] <Xerati> either cntrl+enter or //
#586 [03:28] <Xerati> depends on the client
#587 [03:28] <genshou> /me tests the //
#588 [03:28] <genshou> :D
#589 [03:28] <Xerati> :)
#590 [03:28] <genshou> but /say is more pro
#591 [03:28] <Xerati> yeah, for noobs
#592 [03:28] <genshou> x.x
#593 [03:28] <Kealper> wait what?
#594 [03:28] <Xerati> i got hd textures working with ambient occlusion
#595 [03:29] <genshou> it's like cutting out the /msg nickserv identify to /ns id
#596 [03:29] <Xerati> mc has never looked so good
#597 [03:29] <Xerati> yes
#598 [03:29] <Xerati> /ns id ftw
#599 [03:29] <Kealper> Xerati: pics or it didn't happen
#600 [03:29] <Xerati> but that's specific to server aliases
#601 [03:29] <genshou> yeah, I use it cuz I'm lazy
#602 [03:29] <Xerati> if you don't alias it yourself
#603 [03:29] <Xerati> ok!
#604 [03:29] <genshou> Xerati, you using the texture pack from Ag-whatever?
#605 [03:29] <genshou> (or Aeg-whatever)
#606 [03:30] <Xerati> uhh
#607 [03:30] <Xerati> mixcraft
#608 [03:30] <Xerati> and something else
#609 [03:30] <Xerati> i think
#610 [03:30] <genshou> ah
#611 [03:30] <genshou> One name for it is "Bumpmaft"
#612 [03:30] <Xerati> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16597026/2011-01-07_00.29.22.png
#613 [03:30] <Xerati> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16597026/2011-01-07_00.29.13.png
#614 [03:30] <genshou> one very smexy 128x128
#615 [03:30] <Xerati> i'm only at 32
#616 [03:31] <genshou> Yeah, mine's smexier :P
#617 [03:31] <Xerati> pffft
#618 [03:31] <Xerati> pics
#619 [03:31] <genshou> kay.
#620 [03:31] <genshou> 1 sec
#621 [03:31] <genshou> won't be much there, this is a new world
#622 [03:31] <Kealper> deng
#623 [03:31] <Kealper> those are decent looking lol
#624 [03:31] <Xerati> yeh
#625 [03:31] <Xerati> i haven't seen what ore looks like
#626 [03:31] <Xerati> but i'm liking what i see so far
#627 [03:31] <Xerati> but
#628 [03:32] <Xerati> my sword looks like a lightsaber >_>
#629 [03:32] <Xerati> don't like that so much
#630 [03:33] <genshou> diamond tools in Bumpmaft look like either elven LotR stuff or Final Fantasy-style crystal
#631 [03:33] <genshou> oops, that's my Mabinogi sub-folder xD
#632 [03:33] * genshou waves at wedding pictures
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#633 [03:37] <genshou> Xerati, http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e106/genshou/Minecraft/2011-01-07_013158.png
#634 [03:37] <genshou> http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e106/genshou/Minecraft/2011-01-07_013302.png
#635 [03:37] <Xerati> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QIILuptUV8
#636 [03:38] <Xerati> haha your emo guy
#637 [03:38] <genshou> she's not emo D:
#638 [03:38] <genshou> she just has long bangs
#639 [03:39] <genshou> ugh, her boots are still so ugly
#640 [03:39] <genshou> I need to finish my improvement to that and upload it
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#642 [03:40] <genshou> Plus, she has kind of a sad childhood xD
#643 [03:40] <twobitsprite> how can I send commands to the mc server from my linux box? I want to write a script to force-save the world at midnight for backups...
#644 [03:41] <genshou> older brother (firstborn) and older sister went out into woods, there was a forest fire that day, they found his skeleton but never found her sister
#645 [03:41] <genshou> she had to help out on the farm a lot since her mother was anemic
#646 [03:41] <genshou> then she was raped and ran away from home and became a bard.
#647 [03:42] <twobitsprite> genshou: are you here to troll, or is this relevant to some conversation I missed?
#648 [03:42] <genshou> the second one.
#649 [03:42] <twobitsprite> ok :)
#650 [03:42] <genshou> I'm not a very menacing troll :)
#651 [03:42] <twobitsprite> no, I was going to say "fail troll" but thought I'd check first :P
#652 [03:43] <genshou> talking about the character I use as my current MC avatar
#653 [03:43] <genshou> been using her in stories/as a character in D&D etc. since about '95
#654 [03:43] <Xerati> he's trolling
#655 [03:45] <genshou> :(
#656 [03:45] <Xerati> :D
#657 [03:45] <Xerati> genshou
#658 [03:46] <twobitsprite> no, it sounds like the typical D&D character... "ohh woe is me... I'm an orphan with mental problems, etc"
#659 [03:46] <Xerati> LOL
#660 [03:46] <genshou> Eh... she was originally just a bard
#661 [03:46] <genshou> who was a farmer
#662 [03:46] <genshou> the backstory evolved over 15 years
#663 [03:46] <twobitsprite> evolved to be typical.... :P
#664 [03:46] <genshou> (like later on I had her father become a leatherworker/merchant)
#665 [03:46] <genshou> though she was still raised on a farm in early years
#666 [03:46] <genshou> (thus explaining her very high Str and Con)
#667 [03:47] <genshou> at any rate, pirate! http://www.otherworlders.org/members/genshou/uploads/Main/hotpirate.jpg <--- her daughter (I didn't name this image lol)
#668 [03:47] <genshou> I should make her as a MC avatar next
#669 [03:47] <Kealper> doo et
#670 [03:48] <genshou> was so inspired by that picture by Anry that I actually rewrote some portions of my story
#671 [03:48] <twobitsprite> aannnyyywaayyys..... I'm looking for some help with the mc server...
#672 [03:48] <genshou> xD
#673 [03:48] <genshou> well that's what this channel's for, I'll shut up for now
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#675 [03:49] <twobitsprite> I suspect there's a way to send commands to the server from a script, but I can't seem to find anything in the forums or wiki about this...
#676 [03:50] <twobitsprite> i.e., I want to send the "stop" command from the shutdown script, etc
#677 [03:50] <Xerati> O_o
#678 [03:50] <twobitsprite> or the "save" command from a backup cron job
#679 [03:50] <Xerati> i haven't tried it on nix
#680 [03:50] <Xerati> does the server run in a screen?
#681 [03:50] <Kealper> probably something like save-all | [server PID here]
#682 [03:50] <Xerati> or in the background?
#683 [03:51] <twobitsprite> Kealper: you can't just pipe to a pid like that
#684 [03:51] <Kealper> Xerati: smartesd to run it through screen
#685 [03:51] <Kealper> twobitsprite: well then that's why i'm not the in-house linux support guy :P
#686 [03:51] <twobitsprite> :)
#687 [03:52] <Kealper> and i just noticed that i failed pretty good on spelling smartest lol
#688 [03:52] <Xerati> oh that's what you were trying to spell?
#689 [03:52] <Xerati> xD
#690 [03:52] <Kealper> lol
#691 [03:52] <Xerati> twobitsprite, honestly, some sort of pipe should work for it
#692 [03:53] <Xerati> not as blatantly as Kealper's example <_<
#693 [03:53] * Kealper has never made a bash script in his life
#693 [03:53] <Xerati> i just can't recall how to do stuff like what he's asking
#694 [03:53] <Xerati> haven't done it in years
#695 [03:54] <twobitsprite> ok, but pipe in to what?
#696 [03:54] <Xerati> that's what i'm not sure of
#697 [03:54] <Xerati> i don't even know if the server can handle it
#698 [03:55] <Xerati> easiest way i can think of is a periodic check from within the server code to check a file or something
#699 [03:55] <Xerati> but if that's the case, no need for a cronjob
#700 [03:55] <Xerati> just do it in the server code
#701 [03:55] <twobitsprite> you mean, from within the java code for the server itself?
#702 [03:56] <Xerati> yep
#703 [03:56] <twobitsprite> that doesn't sound so easy
#704 [03:56] <twobitsprite> sounds more like a hack
#705 [03:56] <Xerati> what are you wanting to do?
#706 [03:56] <Xerati> it's a mod
#707 [03:56] <Xerati> and a simple one at that, based on your first lines in here
#708 [03:56] <twobitsprite> hmm... there has to be a more straight forward way of doing it
#709 [03:57] <Xerati> that would be a server mod
#710 [03:57] <Xerati> you just want to 'save' nightly?
#711 [03:57] <twobitsprite> yeah
#712 [03:57] <Xerati> do you have autosave off?
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#714 [03:58] <twobitsprite> well... just in general be able to send commands to the server from a script. 'save' was just an example... 'stop' would be another
#715 [03:58] <Xerati> gotchya
#716 [03:58] <Xerati> in that case, no idea, but i have another idea
#717 [03:59] <Xerati> write a perl script to encompass the server, with it's own internal counter for sending commands
#718 [03:59] <twobitsprite> bleh
#719 [03:59] <Xerati> i did that a long time ago
#720 [03:59] <Xerati> i forget how, or even why i did it
#721 [03:59] <Xerati> but it took me forever to figure out
#722 [04:00] <twobitsprite> I was hoping for something simple, like telnet to a a management port opened by the server and send commands or something
#723 [04:00] <Xerati> oh
#724 [04:00] <Xerati> uhh
#725 [04:00] <Xerati> run it in screen then
#726 [04:00] <Xerati> but that doesn't work for scripts ;P
#727 [04:00] <twobitsprite> yeah, I guess I'll have to do something like that
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#729 [04:01] <twobitsprite> well, there's the -X option for screen where you can send commands to a screen session... I guess I'll have to do that
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#731 [04:02] <twobitsprite> anyways, that'll have to wait until the morning
#732 [04:02] <twobitsprite> night all
#733 [04:05] <genshou> so, like I was saying a long-ass time ago, creepers >:I
#734 [04:05] <genshou> Messed up my lawn
#735 [04:06] <genshou> http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e106/genshou/Minecraft/2011-01-07_013158.png <--- example hole, I'm starting to fill in a torch grid so I can load my duplicate world to compare and replace blocks
#736 [04:06] * genshou is OCD like that :o
#736 [04:07] <BarryCarlyon> damn creepers!
#737 [04:10] <genshou> Hmm, I just went to the artist's website... I don't see anything recent :(
#738 [04:10] <genshou> poor Anry
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#740 [04:14] <reez> Hi, how can i make my alpha server password protected, or "not public"?
#741 [04:15] <lemon-rev> well if you only want the friends you want to get on it, dont advertise your ip :P
#742 [04:15] <Kealper> alpha/beta servers are not public, you have to tell people the address
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#744 [04:16] <reez> ah ok, thanks :)
#745 [04:17] <DopeGhoti> twobitsprite: There's also the multiplexer if you prefer not to use screen. That works by either INET or UNIX sockets. That more up your alley?
#746 [04:18] <reez> And another question... is there a mod or so to setup a welcome msg for my Server?
#747 [04:18] <DopeGhoti> reez: no mod needed; plonk a sign in front of the spawn point.
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#749 [04:18] <Kealper> lol
#750 [04:18] <reez> ^^
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#752 [04:29] <Xerati> genshou
#753 [04:29] <Xerati> i have to recompile/start it first
#754 [04:29] <Xerati> lol
#755 [04:29] <genshou> :v...
#756 [04:30] <Xerati> it's up
#757 [04:30] <genshou> aw, I just loaded single player to copy down the layout of another section of pre-creeper hillside xD
#758 [04:30] <genshou> what was the port
#759 [04:30] <Xerati> 25567
#760 [04:31] <Xerati> fyi, chat is broken
#761 [04:31] <Xerati> don't talk in game
#762 [04:31] <Xerati> lol
#763 [04:31] <genshou> :v
#764 [04:31] <genshou> you broke chat?
#765 [04:31] <DopeGhoti> ...?
#766 [04:34] <Xerati> no that's mcp
#767 [04:35] <he_who_slumbers> good night
#768 [04:35] <he_who_slumbers> crud xales is gone
#769 [04:36] <DopeGhoti> gone, but not forgotten.
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#779 [06:42] <Jonez> Hello, everyone.
#780 [06:42] <Jonez> I am new in Minecraft, but I need help.
#781 [06:43] <KillSpammer> Sure?
#782 [06:43] <KillSpammer> What do you need
#783 [06:43] <Jonez> I am thinking buying the game today.
#784 [06:43] <Jonez> I just dont understand yet the Pre-purchase system
#785 [06:43] <KillSpammer> Well
#786 [06:43] <Jonez> And the other thing
#787 [06:43] <KillSpammer> Its kind of confusing at the moment
#788 [06:43] <Jonez> Like
#789 [06:43] <Jonez> Yea
#790 [06:43] <KillSpammer> But when you buy beta
#791 [06:43] <KillSpammer> You will get all beta updates and all
#792 [06:43] <KillSpammer> Untill the full game
#793 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> including the full game
#794 [06:44] <KillSpammer> Which then you will get the First version and all bug fixes after the fullversion
#795 [06:44] <KillSpammer> But any added content/expansions you will have to pay for.
#796 [06:44] <Jonez> So, the beta is only available now for buy?
#797 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#798 [06:44] <Jonez> Oh okay.
#799 [06:44] <Jonez> I though you can pre-release it
#800 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Nope, the game is out in beta right now
#801 [06:44] <Jonez> And if you want, you can buy SOMETHING with 20 euros
#802 [06:45] <Jonez> Allright.
#803 [06:45] <Jonez> So, I'm confirming
#804 [06:45] <Jonez> If I buy beta
#805 [06:45] <Jonez> I get premium
#806 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#807 [06:45] <Jonez> Which means, I can play online
#808 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Right
#809 [06:45] <KillSpammer> Yes.
#810 [06:45] <Jonez> And, later, I get the fullversion WHEN it is released.
#811 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> That's correct
#812 [06:45] <Jonez> By downloading the full-version client or whatsoever
#813 [06:46] <Jonez> Oh, I got it
#814 [06:46] <Jonez> Because I am going to buy the game today, that is why I had to ask.
#815 [06:47] <Jonez> Oh! One more question.
#816 [06:47] <Jonez> When I buy the game
#817 [06:47] <Jonez> Do I get a code in my e-mail or something?
#818 [06:47] <Jonez> Or does it work like "Upgrading" your account?
#819 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> The latter
#820 [06:48] <Jonez> So it comes automatically in my account?
#821 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#822 [06:48] <Jonez> Oh.
#823 [06:48] <Jonez> So, if I buy the game right now...
#824 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> Be aware that it might not be instant
#825 [06:48] <KillSpammer> You will almost get it instantly
#826 [06:48] <KillSpammer> Depending on paypal
#827 [06:49] <Jonez> oh.
#828 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> It could be immediate, the premium status, or it could take up to a day
#829 [06:49] <Jonez> But you can buy it with Visa and Mastercard?
#830 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#831 [06:49] <Jonez> So it is slow even buying with visa and/or Mastercard
#832 [06:49] <Jonez> Kay
#833 [06:49] <Jonez> But what I was saying;
#834 [06:50] <Jonez> If I (for example) buy the game in THIS COMPUTER, log in after I paid for it and waited 'til the Premium comes into my account
#835 [06:50] <Jonez> Log in in this computer,
#836 [06:50] <Jonez> Play it
#837 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> When you buy the game, it credits your account
#838 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Anywhere you log in with your account, you can play it
#839 [06:50] <KillSpammer> So you login with yoru account on the account screen
#840 [06:50] <KillSpammer> Its not computer bind or anything
#841 [06:50] <Jonez> So I can log in anywhere via the downloadable client or Netclient?
#842 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#843 [06:51] <Jonez> Great
#844 [06:51] <Jonez> Thanks, that is all what I had to ask.
#845 [06:51] <Jonez> So, it may not come instantly even with Visa or Mastercard?
#846 [06:51] <lemon-rev> night minecrafthelp # :P
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#848 [06:53] <Jonez> I have to confirm this only, that when I buy it via Visa or Mastercard, it might take a Day to confirm?
#849 [06:53] <Jonez> or more?
#850 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> It could
#851 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#852 [06:54] <Jonez> Okay.
#853 [06:54] <Jonez> I readed something about E-check
#854 [06:54] <KillSpammer> Most likely its gonna be instantly
#855 [06:54] <Jonez> Okay
#856 [06:54] <Jonez> But last (yes, this is last) question
#857 [06:54] <Jonez> "E-check"
#858 [06:55] <Jonez> Wut?
#859 [06:55] <KillSpammer> It rarely has delay
#860 [06:55] <KillSpammer> Idk?
#861 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> electronic check
#862 [06:55] <KillSpammer> I used paypal ages ago to get it
#863 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> you pay with your checking account
#864 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> can take a week to clear
#865 [06:55] <Jonez> oh
#866 [06:55] <Jonez> But It counts only paypal?
#867 [06:55] <KillSpammer> If you need any assistance within the game
#868 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#869 [06:55] <Jonez> Not Visa or Mastercard
#870 [06:55] <Jonez> k
#871 [06:56] <KillSpammer> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#872 [06:56] <KillSpammer> The wiki
#873 [06:56] <KillSpammer> You may notice i am working on mojangs employees pages lol
#874 [06:56] <Jonez> ^Yes, that is correct.
#875 [06:56] <Jonez> :D
#876 [06:57] <Jonez> But I didnt know there's a Minecraft Wiki
#877 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> There is
#878 [06:57] <Jonez> That's good
#879 [06:57] <Diablothein> and a Minecraft Forum
#880 [06:57] <Jonez> Mmh, I though I could peek the Forum later
#881 [06:58] <Jonez> Wiki is 1st on my list :_D
#882 [06:58] <Diablothein> Uhm, dude, your nose is a... uhm... crooked :D
#883 [06:58] <Jonez> Bad smiley, yea
#884 [06:58] <Jonez> :<
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#886 [06:59] <Jonez> Okay, im going to buy this
#887 [06:59] <Jonez> Brb
#888 [07:08] <fogwraith> !ping
#889 [07:08] <GreyBot> fogwraith Your Ping time was 0.591 Seconds.
#890 [07:08] <fogwraith> ;_;
#891 [07:08] <ConMan8> cue botspam
#892 [07:08] <ConMan8> !ping
#893 [07:08] <GreyBot> ConMan8 Your Ping time was 0.832 Seconds.
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#895 [07:08] <Jonez> !ping
#896 [07:08] <GreyBot> Jonez Your Ping time was 0.551 Seconds.
#897 [07:08] <ConMan8> It's-
#898 [07:09] <Bolt3D08> Is any onw here
#899 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#900 [07:09] <ConMan8> no
#901 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> Nobody's here
#902 [07:09] <fogwraith> Figures ;P
#903 [07:09] <Jonez> Not me
#904 [07:09] <Jonez> Hey dudes
#905 [07:09] <Jonez> Admins or whatsoever
#906 [07:09] <Jonez> Meatballs ;D
#907 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> mhmm?
#908 [07:09] <fogwraith> ... meatballs?
#909 [07:09] <Jonez> I purchased the game.
#910 [07:10] <Jonez> Just joking
#911 [07:10] <Jonez> Nvm
#912 [07:10] <Jonez> But I purchased the game
#913 [07:10] <Bolt3D08> Ok, Well I can see that someone is here
#914 [07:10] <Jonez> Dark...
#915 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> Lies
#916 [07:10] <Jonez> ?
#917 [07:10] * fogwraith isn't here, he's over there
#917 [07:10] <Bolt3D08> Oh for godsakes
#918 [07:11] <fogwraith> What do you need? :P
#919 [07:11] <Bolt3D08> My MideCraft Guy can't seem to chop blocks
#920 [07:11] * mib_lmbmsz [mib_lmbmsz@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#921 [07:11] <fogwraith> Hold down the mouse
#922 [07:11] <fogwraith> Move away from the spawn
#923 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> hold down left click
#924 [07:11] <mib_lmbmsz> hey
#925 [07:12] <mib_lmbmsz> anyone wonna test my server...it took me a month to build
#926 [07:12] <Jonez> ._.
#927 [07:12] <mib_lmbmsz> very laggy tho...running on pc
#928 [07:12] <fogwraith> Sure ;P
#929 [07:12] <mib_lmbmsz> kk let me get ip
#930 [07:12] <fogwraith> Hook me up, little orphan!
#931 [07:13] <mib_lmbmsz> 124.182.175.65
#932 [07:13] <KillSpammer> Oh its Mib_lmbsz
#933 [07:13] <mib_lmbmsz> log on in
#934 [07:13] <KillSpammer> Hows it going?
#935 [07:13] <mib_lmbmsz> oh hey killspammer
#936 [07:13] <mib_lmbmsz> its me
#937 [07:13] <mib_lmbmsz> bradster
#938 [07:13] <reez> Someone using multicraft here? I always get "CDbConnection failed to open the DB connection.".
#939 [07:14] <Jonez> So I have to wait 1 hour (or more) so the purchase is complete, I see
#940 [07:14] <Jonez> ...I think thats ok :P
#941 [07:14] <Jonez> Now you can welcome me to minecraft
#942 [07:14] <Jonez> D:
#943 [07:15] <mib_lmbmsz> killspammer go on my server
#944 [07:15] <Bolt3D08> Oh
#945 [07:16] <Bolt3D08> I get it now
#946 [07:16] <Bolt3D08> Your meant to hold down the mouse button
#947 [07:16] <Bolt3D08> GOD am Dumn
#948 [07:16] <Diablothein> !check 128.182.175.65
#949 [07:16] <Diablothein> You need to open your ports
#950 [07:16] <fogwraith> What in Behemoths ballsack are hosting this thing on, mib_lmbmsz?
#951 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#952 [07:17] <mib_lmbmsz> its on my pc
#953 [07:17] <mib_lmbmsz> its the best world ever
#954 [07:17] <mib_lmbmsz> but i need a host
#955 [07:17] <mib_lmbmsz> whats good software to show ppl the map
#956 [07:17] <fogwraith> It takes roughly a MINUTE for my message to pop up on the screen after typing ;P
#957 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> O.O
#958 [07:17] <mib_lmbmsz> just walk around...yes i know..its off my laptop
#959 [07:18] * GreyVulpine snerks
#959 [07:18] <Diablothein> ysee, never say your world is the best one. There could be better ones.
#960 [07:18] <fogwraith> :|
#961 [07:18] <mib_lmbmsz> log on my server then
#962 [07:18] <mib_lmbmsz> walk around the map is massive
#963 [07:18] <mib_lmbmsz> great
#964 [07:18] <Diablothein> Just because it's massive doesn't mean it's the best.
#965 [07:19] <fogwraith> Well it does look pretty good
#966 [07:19] <mib_lmbmsz> log on and look for yourself
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#968 [07:19] <Diablothein> How's about no?
#969 [07:19] <mib_lmbmsz> then leave me alone
#970 [07:19] <Diablothein> Then don't say that your's is the best one.
#971 [07:19] <Jonez> ^ and ^2 = brutal
#972 [07:19] <Jonez> :D
#973 [07:20] <mib_lmbmsz> ok correction...i think im the best one
#974 [07:20] <Jonez> ^facepalm
#975 [07:21] * Diablothein sighs
#975 [07:21] <Jonez> Yikes, spooky silence going on here.
#976 [07:21] <mib_lmbmsz> killspammer
#977 [07:21] <Diablothein> I'm off, school time.
#978 [07:21] <Jonez> ...'til it was broken
#979 [07:21] <fogwraith> I died from something ;P
#980 [07:21] <mib_lmbmsz> do /home
#981 [07:22] <KillSpammer> What?
#982 [07:22] <KillSpammer> mib_lmbmsz, ?
#983 [07:22] <mib_lmbmsz> come on my server killspammer
#984 [07:22] <mib_lmbmsz> its me bradster.101@hotmail.com
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#986 [07:22] <KillSpammer> Oh brad...
#987 [07:22] <KillSpammer> Lol
#988 [07:23] <KillSpammer> I was like
#989 [07:23] <Jonez> Brad.
#990 [07:23] <KillSpammer> Who de crap is brad
#991 [07:23] <mib_lmbmsz> look in your msn
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#993 [07:23] <mib_lmbmsz> u added me
#994 [07:23] <mib_lmbmsz> superboy13
#995 [07:23] * Jonez shot
#995 [07:23] <KillSpammer> Yeah i know...
#996 [07:23] * Jonez shotzzz
#996 [07:23] <mib_lmbmsz> lol ooh yea
#997 [07:23] <KillSpammer> I wasn't planning on becoming uber active on your server or anything
#998 [07:23] <KillSpammer> I was just bored and felt like helping you a little
#999 [07:23] <mib_lmbmsz> yeah i know
#1000 [07:23] <KillSpammer> Xales you on?
#1001 [07:23] <mib_lmbmsz> come on to my server tho killspammer
#1002 [07:24] <mib_lmbmsz> look at my new creation
#1003 [07:24] <KillSpammer> Fine then...
#1004 [07:24] <mib_lmbmsz> i finished it last nite
#1005 [07:24] <fogwraith> Watch out for lag, spiders and death ;P
#1006 [07:24] <mib_lmbmsz> lol yeah watch out
#1007 [07:24] * Bolt3D08 slaps Bolt3D08 around a bit with a large trout
#1007 [07:24] * Bolt3D08 slaps zz around a bit with a large trout
#1007 [07:26] <Jonez> z
#1008 [07:26] <Jonez> :P
#1009 [07:26] <ConMan8> hax
#1010 [07:26] * Diablothein is away: School
#1010 [07:27] <ConMan8> :|
#1011 [07:28] <Jonez> :|
#1012 [07:28] <genshou> :D
#1013 [07:28] <Jonez> D:<
#1014 [07:28] <KillSpammer> :S
#1015 [07:28] <KillSpammer> Jonez
#1016 [07:28] <Jonez> -_-
#1017 [07:28] <KillSpammer> Welcome to the family
#1018 [07:28] <KillSpammer> !paid Jonez
#1019 [07:28] <Jonez> LOL=
#1020 [07:28] <Jonez> ?
#1021 [07:29] <Jonez> I have?
#1022 [07:29] <KillSpammer> Your minecraft user is Jonez right?
#1023 [07:29] <Jonez> DarkJonez
#1024 [07:29] <Jonez> :I
#1025 [07:29] <genshou> :I
#1026 [07:29] <KillSpammer> !paid DarkJonez
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#1028 [07:29] <Jonez> I have
#1029 [07:29] <Jonez> I totally have
#1030 [07:29] <Jonez> I paid the 14,95
#1031 [07:29] <KillSpammer> Have you been able to download it hyet?
#1032 [07:29] <Jonez> Yes, I downloaded it
#1033 [07:29] <Jonez> Then I purchased it
#1034 [07:29] <KillSpammer> Database must be slow...
#1035 [07:29] <Jonez> there readed after I purchased
#1036 [07:30] <KillSpammer> :S
#1037 [07:30] <Jonez> Purchase Complete!
#1038 [07:30] <KillSpammer> Anyway
#1039 [07:30] <KillSpammer> Nvm
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#1041 [07:30] <KillSpammer> Playing SP right now?
#1042 [07:30] <Jonez> Sp?
#1043 [07:30] <Jonez> Sorry Im new :P
#1044 [07:30] <KillSpammer> Single player.
#1045 [07:30] <KillSpammer> SMP is usually Multiplayer
#1046 [07:30] <Jonez> Nah, dunno how
#1047 [07:30] <Jonez> D:
#1048 [07:30] <Jonez> Ohk, keeping that in mind
#1049 [07:30] <KillSpammer> Download the cleint?
#1050 [07:30] <Jonez> I did
#1051 [07:30] <KillSpammer> Run it?
#1052 [07:30] <KillSpammer> And paly?
#1053 [07:30] <KillSpammer> Play
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#1055 [07:31] <Jonez> I logged in and it said "User not Premium" and the Play Offline button is grey
#1056 [07:31] <Jonez> I cant press it
#1057 [07:31] <ConMan8> Paly
#1058 [07:31] <Jonez> "You must play online once to play Single player"
#1059 [07:31] <KillSpammer> Just wait...
#1060 [07:31] <Jonez> k
#1061 [07:31] <KillSpammer> Payment hasn't been prossessed yet
#1062 [07:32] <Jonez> Okay.
#1063 [07:32] <Jonez> I understand that.
#1064 [07:32] <KillSpammer> Type !paid DarkJonez
#1065 [07:32] <KillSpammer> TO check
#1066 [07:32] <KillSpammer> Or try login :)
#1067 [07:32] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#1068 [07:32] <Jonez> Shii
#1069 [07:32] <Jonez> :<
#1070 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> Like I told you before, it could take up to a day
#1071 [07:32] <genshou> Lulz, a new person to corrupt :]
#1072 [07:33] * genshou recommends Jonez builds a portal. In the middle of a forest. As soon as possible.
#1072 [07:33] <genshou> :D
#1073 [07:34] * KillSpammer recommends Joenz follow http://twitter.com/killspammer for the latest stalking of notch
#1073 [07:34] <KillSpammer> Alpha codes on ebay?
#1074 [07:34] <KillSpammer> Epic
#1075 [07:34] <KillSpammer> I should of got one :S
#1076 [07:34] <Jonez> Keepin' Genshous idea in mind
#1077 [07:35] <Jonez> Genshou, why u recommend that?
#1078 [07:35] <ConMan8> Alpha codes on ebay
#1079 [07:35] <ConMan8> That's funny
#1080 [07:35] <genshou> oh, no reason >.>
#1081 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> holy crap
#1082 [07:35] <genshou> Certainly not because I want you to freak out when a ghast appears and lights the place on fire. :>
#1083 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> 30 bucks for minecraft alpha?
#1084 [07:36] <genshou> lol, they're like scalpers
#1085 [07:36] <genshou> or those Chinese websites that sell MMO beta keys
#1086 [07:36] <Jonez> Oshi
#1087 [07:36] <Jonez> :i
#1088 [07:36] <genshou> anyway, time for bed
#1089 [07:36] <Jonez> I heard that theres zombies around there
#1090 [07:36] <genshou> Jonez, really don't build a portal till you know what you're getting into ;v
#1091 [07:36] <Jonez> derp
#1092 [07:36] <Jonez> D:
#1093 [07:36] <Jonez> Okay
#1094 [07:37] <genshou> even on Peaceful you should learn about the Nether before you go crazy and pop in there
#1095 [07:37] <Jonez> If I am right that there are zombies around there...
#1096 [07:37] <Jonez> Im just running awayyyy
#1097 [07:37] <genshou> Hah, zombies are weaksauce
#1098 [07:37] <genshou> soon you will learn to hate and fear the "sssssssssssssss"
#1099 [07:37] <Jonez> Ohk
#1100 [07:37] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#1101 [07:38] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#1102 [07:38] <Jonez> D:<
#1103 [07:38] <Jonez> (ye I know its slow)
#1104 [07:38] <genshou> give it some time
#1105 [07:38] <KillSpammer> No zombies in Nether
#1106 [07:38] <KillSpammer> Only Pigman zombies
#1107 [07:38] <KillSpammer> But they
#1108 [07:38] <KillSpammer> Are friendly at first
#1109 [07:38] <KillSpammer> DOn't hit htem
#1110 [07:38] <KillSpammer> Seriously
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#1112 [07:38] <KillSpammer> I have them around my house
#1113 [07:38] <KillSpammer> There my epic friends
#1114 [07:38] <Jonez> There has to be ground-crawler-zombies
#1115 [07:38] <Jonez> :DD
#1116 [07:39] <Jonez> Keeping that mind, killspammer.
#1117 [07:39] <Jonez> Lets see how quickly I fail 1st time playing this game
#1118 [07:40] <Jonez> Or, If Im good at games like usually, maybe I do not fail right away
#1119 [07:40] <KillSpammer> I seriously
#1120 [07:40] <KillSpammer> I lead sheep into my house first time i played
#1121 [07:40] <KillSpammer> Then i saw a creeper
#1122 [07:40] <KillSpammer> And lured him into my house
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#1124 [07:40] <Jonez> Creeper?
#1125 [07:40] <KillSpammer> At the stage i had no idea what they were
#1126 [07:40] <KillSpammer> Omg...
#1127 [07:40] <KillSpammer> DUDE
#1128 [07:40] <KillSpammer> SERIOUSLY
#1129 [07:40] <KillSpammer> Read the wiki now
#1130 [07:40] <KillSpammer> NOW
#1131 [07:40] <KillSpammer> NOW
#1132 [07:40] <Jonez> k
#1133 [07:40] <Jonez> um
#1134 [07:40] <KillSpammer> Search for creeper
#1135 [07:40] <Jonez> Link pl<
#1136 [07:40] <jamb> hi there
#1137 [07:40] <ConMan8> neh?
#1138 [07:40] <Jonez> Plz
#1139 [07:41] <KillSpammer> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Creeper
#1140 [07:41] <KillSpammer> They are green penies
#1141 [07:41] <Jonez> oh
#1142 [07:41] <jamb> does some of you experience BlueScreens with Minecraft?
#1143 [07:41] <Jonez> So thats a creeper
#1144 [07:41] <Jonez> THIS IS A TRUE CREEPER
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#1146 [07:41] <Jonez> (from gvh)
#1147 [07:42] <Jonez> http://www.google.fi/imgres?imgurl=http://cutstuff.net/images/creeper.png&imgrefurl=http://cutstuff.net/blog/%3Fpage_id%3D1525&usg=__a3q9XeZsGZskw7Po3plUQeIyuZU=&h=332&w=343&sz=10&hl=fi&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=bewPMHgWvemmIM:&tbnh=133&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcreeper%2Bgvh%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dfi%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:fi:official%26biw%
#1148 [07:42] <Jonez> umm
#1149 [07:42] <Jonez> maybe too long link?
#1150 [07:42] <Jonez> W/E, that is a creeper too
#1151 [07:43] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#1152 [07:43] <KillSpammer> Use http://tinyurl.com
#1153 [07:43] <Jonez> ohk
#1154 [07:44] <jamb> only once again: have you seen Minecraft Server causing Bluescreens on WIndows recently?
#1155 [07:44] <Jonez> http://tinyurl.com/3a9akud
#1156 [07:44] <Jonez> ^that is The Creeper
#1157 [07:44] <Jonez> from Ghouls versus Humans
#1158 [07:45] <Jonez> Feel free to comment that weakling
#1159 [07:45] <Jonez> :<
#1160 [07:47] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#1161 [07:49] <Jonez> You know what; I have already an Idea in my mind what I should go and do in minecraft when the purchase is complete.
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#1163 [07:50] <fogwraith> What the shit, creepers are manning up and exploding when they feel like it?
#1164 [07:55] <KillSpammer> What is that Jonez?
#1165 [07:55] <KillSpammer> Also
#1166 [07:55] <KillSpammer> Don't use Mibbit :S
#1167 [08:00] <ConMan8> !paid DarkJonez
#1168 [08:01] <ConMan8> Jonez: Punch trees? c:
#1169 [08:02] <Jonez> Back
#1170 [08:02] <Jonez> Killspammer: Jumpmaze
#1171 [08:02] <Jonez> Killspammer: Im trying to not to use it
#1172 [08:02] <Jonez> :P
#1173 [08:02] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#1174 [08:03] <Jonez> And ConMan8: Jumpmaze, no, not punching trees, even thou I dont have no idea about punching trees.
#1175 [08:03] <Jonez> I mean if there comes a SOMBIE or something
#1176 [08:04] <KillSpammer> Zombies?
#1177 [08:05] <Jonez> Ye
#1178 [08:05] <Jonez> But I like it calling them sombi's
#1179 [08:05] <Jonez> :P
#1180 [08:05] <Jonez> Well, usually however I call them zombies
#1181 [08:05] <Jonez> :I
#1182 [08:05] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
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#1184 [08:10] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1185 [08:11] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#1186 [08:11] <Jonez> :<
#1187 [08:11] <Jonez> Almost hour have gone from the purchase
#1188 [08:12] <KillSpammer> To bad :(
#1189 [08:13] <Jonez> Im playing classic at the while
#1190 [08:13] <Jonez> The badder version
#1191 [08:13] <Jonez> right?
#1192 [08:13] <Jonez> D:
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#1196 [08:20] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#1197 [08:20] <Jonez> !paid AuBot
#1198 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> Please stop spamming that
#1199 [08:21] <Jonez> Okay
#1200 [08:21] <Jonez> Just testing ;P
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#1202 [08:22] <fogwraith> Whats that silly command for checking if server is reachable?
#1203 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> !check
#1204 [08:22] <fogwraith> Ah
#1205 [08:23] <fogwraith> !check 217.211.17.244:8888
#1206 [08:23] * fogwraith shakes fist
#1206 [08:23] <Sami345> !check google.fi:80
#1207 [08:24] <fogwraith> !check 217.211.17.244:8888
#1208 [08:24] <fogwraith> Hate editing the iptables -_-
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#1211 [08:37] <Jonez> Urgh, when I get play Minecraft D:
#1212 [08:37] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#1213 [08:51] <fogwraith> What the... a door within the spawn area is not operable by people connecting?
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#1216 [08:51] <Jonez> Does my Minecraft Upgrade come soon?
#1217 [08:51] <Jonez> D:
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#1219 [08:54] <trudler> hi all
#1220 [08:54] <trudler> i got a question
#1221 [08:54] <mbentley> i like questions
#1222 [08:55] <trudler> i want to buy minecraft, but is it true, that when i buy the beta, that later when big updates comes, i have to pay more?
#1223 [08:55] <trudler> sry for bad english
#1224 [08:55] <Jonez> I asked the same question today
#1225 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> Nope. You get all bug fixes, updates, and the full version for free
#1226 [08:55] <Jonez> So, if youre gonna buy minecraft, the beta is the thing what is buyable
#1227 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> The only thing you might have to pay for, are expansions, if notch decides to develop them
#1228 [08:55] <mbentley> you would have to pay if expansion packs are released
#1229 [08:56] <Jonez> You get the other updates for free then later
#1230 [08:56] <mbentley> GreyVulpine beat me to it :)
#1231 [08:56] <mbentley> updates are indeed free
#1232 [08:57] <trudler> but all alpha-buyers get all theese things free? inclusive expansion packs?!
#1233 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1234 [08:57] <trudler> -.- i hate things like this!
#1235 [08:58] <Smiley> we do~?
#1236 [08:58] <trudler> now, maybe i don't buy, this is a brassines in my eyes...
#1237 [08:58] <Jonez> Expansion packs: You need to pay for them
#1238 [08:58] <Smiley> SWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTT ^_^
#1239 [08:58] * Smiley likes his alpha status :P
#1239 [08:58] <Jonez> And WHEN THE F I GET MY MINECRAFT!
#1240 [08:58] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#1241 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> Like I told you before you paid, it could take up to a day
#1242 [08:58] <Jonez> Oh, yea
#1243 [08:58] <Jonez> sry
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#1247 [08:59] <Smiley> meow
#1248 [08:59] <Smiley> :(
#1249 [08:59] <trudler> what could take up a day?
#1250 [08:59] <Smiley> my kernel takes forever to compile
#1251 [08:59] <Henoik_> Hello
#1252 [08:59] <Henoik_> I need help
#1253 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> Premium status trudler
#1254 [08:59] <Henoik_> Who can hek\lp me?
#1255 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> Henoik - With what?
#1256 [09:00] <Henoik_> With a java problem
#1257 [09:00] <trudler> i hate it to buy a game, and then after a while i have to pay more for it!
#1258 [09:00] <mbentley> ask away...
#1259 [09:00] <Jonez> When you buy the minecraft, the Membership for you account what you have registered takes maybe a day
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#1261 [09:01] <trudler> this means, i can maybe not play today?
#1262 [09:01] <Jonez> MAYBE
#1263 [09:01] <Henoik_> When I play the free version, java client crashes the game. It loads 1 sec, then crashes, what to do?
#1264 [09:01] <trudler> ok this is not the importantst thing...
#1265 [09:01] <Jonez> I just bought today minecraft
#1266 [09:01] <Jonez> so Im waiting for my upgrade
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#1268 [09:02] <Jonez> I dont rush with it
#1269 [09:02] <Henoik_> Can somebody help me
#1270 [09:02] <Henoik_> ?
#1271 [09:02] <Henoik_> PLZ
#1272 [09:02] <GreyVulpine> Henoik - Can you paste the java error at www.pastebin.com?
#1273 [09:02] <Henoik_> Ok
#1274 [09:02] <trudler> ah yes, can i reach things like animals and gold (whitch i have to gain) only with the beta version? with the online version (classic game) i can'tdo things like this...
#1275 [09:02] <Jonez> check this site
#1276 [09:03] <Jonez> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#1277 [09:03] <trudler> thx
#1278 [09:03] <Jonez> No problem.
#1279 [09:07] <Henoik_> Here is the pastebin.com link to the failure log: http://pastebin.com/c749CUD5
#1280 [09:07] <mbentley> Henoik_: update your graphics card drivers
#1281 [09:07] <Henoik_> So can you help me, GreyVulpine?
#1282 [09:08] <Jonez> ^2
#1283 [09:08] <mbentley> Henoik_: download them from http://www.amd.com
#1284 [09:08] <Henoik_> I have updated all my card drivers to the last version
#1285 [09:08] <Henoik_> Ok, mbentley
#1286 [09:09] <trudler> jonez?
#1287 [09:09] <Jonez> Yes?
#1288 [09:09] <trudler> are this items/features/... all not in the classic version?
#1289 [09:09] <trudler> only in the beta version?
#1290 [09:09] <Jonez> The classic has just a "Block world"
#1291 [09:10] <Jonez> Other words, you can just build
#1292 [09:10] <Jonez> Just build, nothing else
#1293 [09:10] <Jonez> houses etc.
#1294 [09:10] <trudler> and i searched on youtube, its possible to made a server where the whole family can build things right?
#1295 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes trudler
#1296 [09:10] <trudler> but everybody needs to buy an own account -.-
#1297 [09:10] <Jonez> The Beta version has the monsters, hp bar, pickaxes, axes, etc. stuff.
#1298 [09:10] <Jonez> Yes, thats true
#1299 [09:11] <trudler> 6x15€ is much money, but its not changeable.. so....
#1300 [09:11] <trudler> i think i gonna buy it too
#1301 [09:11] <trudler> thanks for the help :-)
#1302 [09:13] <Jonez> no problem
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#1304 [09:15] <Henoik_> Yes, I have installed the latest graphics drivers. What to do next?
#1305 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> Does it still error out Henoik?
#1306 [09:15] <Henoik_> I can test
#1307 [09:17] <Henoik_> Thanks, it dont error out now.
#1308 [09:17] <Henoik_> I thank you so much
#1309 [09:18] <trudler> so I leave
#1310 [09:18] <trudler> i wish you all a nice day :) bye
#1311 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> Take care.
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#1313 [09:20] <trudler> uhm jonez??
#1314 [09:20] <trudler> i bought it now
#1315 [09:20] <Jonez> Yes?
#1316 [09:20] <Jonez> Great
#1317 [09:20] <trudler> and i can play
#1318 [09:20] <trudler> are u sure that you cannot?
#1319 [09:21] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#1320 [09:21] <Jonez> What is your username in minecraft?
#1321 [09:21] <trudler> !paid trudler
#1322 [09:21] <trudler> ????
#1323 [09:21] <Jonez> Wtf?
#1324 [09:21] <Jonez> Odd
#1325 [09:21] <trudler> hihi
#1326 [09:21] <trudler> nice feature here in this chat...
#1327 [09:21] <mbentley> what payment methods did you guys use?
#1328 [09:21] <Jonez> Well, I wish I get it, because otherwise i lost my money
#1329 [09:21] <trudler> paypal
#1330 [09:21] <Jonez> I used Visas
#1331 [09:21] <Jonez> Visa*
#1332 [09:22] <trudler> ist the best ever on the internet
#1333 [09:22] <trudler> !paid greybot
#1334 [09:22] <trudler> sry
#1335 [09:22] <KillSpammer> Back
#1336 [09:22] <trudler> ok, nice day :)
#1337 [09:22] <trudler> *have a
#1338 [09:23] <Jonez> Hey Killspammer
#1339 [09:23] <Jonez> Can you explain one thing?
#1340 [09:24] <Henoik_> Ok. I think I go away now
#1341 [09:24] <Henoik_> Bye
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#1343 [09:26] <KillSpammar> Mmm
#1344 [09:26] <Jonez> !paid Jonez
#1345 [09:26] <KillSpammar> Sorry
#1346 [09:26] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#1347 [09:26] <KillSpammar> What did you want Jonez?
#1348 [09:26] <KillSpammar> My net cut otu :S
#1349 [09:26] <Jonez> Well, Trudler just bought minecraft
#1350 [09:26] <Jonez> Minutes ago
#1351 [09:26] <Jonez> He got right away after the
#1352 [09:26] <mbentley> with a different payment method...
#1353 [09:26] <KillSpammar> With the same method?
#1354 [09:26] <Jonez> he bought it
#1355 [09:26] <Jonez> No
#1356 [09:26] <Jonez> Paypal
#1357 [09:26] <Jonez> I used visa
#1358 [09:26] <KillSpammar> Paypal and visa are different
#1359 [09:26] <Jonez> But visa is longer I suppose
#1360 [09:27] <KillSpammar> Expect different times :S
#1361 [09:27] <Jonez> ok
#1362 [09:27] <Jonez> :I
#1363 [09:27] <KillSpammer> Yay!
#1364 [09:27] <mbentley> would be the visa system doesn't send payment notification to the minecraft servers as quickly
#1365 [09:27] <KillSpammer> Identifyed!
#1366 [09:27] <KillSpammer> Visa waits for the money to be trasfered
#1367 [09:27] <KillSpammer> Paypal sends it as soon as they get the paid thing
#1368 [09:27] <KillSpammer> :S
#1369 [09:28] <Jonez> AsdAsDasD
#1370 [09:28] <Jonez> D:
#1371 [09:29] <KillSpammer> Its annoying
#1372 [09:29] <KillSpammer> Should of used Paypal
#1373 [09:30] <KillSpammer> Why didn't you?
#1374 [09:30] <Jonez> Didnt have one.
#1375 [09:31] <KillSpammer> It takes like 5 minuites to make one
#1376 [09:31] <KillSpammer> Go make one now
#1377 [09:31] <KillSpammer> Much faster for future use :)
#1378 [09:31] <Jonez> Ye but it's useless now
#1379 [09:31] <Jonez> I already bought minecraft with visa
#1380 [09:32] <Jonez> Im afraid I never get the minecraft d:
#1381 [09:32] <Jonez> D:
#1382 [09:32] * Jonez cries
#1382 [09:32] <Jonez> (If visa fails)
#1383 [09:33] <KillSpammer> Get a refund?
#1384 [09:33] <mbentley> Jonez: it'll be fine
#1385 [09:33] <Jonez> mmh
#1386 [09:33] <Jonez> K Ill wait
#1387 [09:33] <Jonez> >.<
#1388 [09:33] <KillSpammer> If you don't have it within 24hours contact support
#1389 [09:33] <KillSpammer> Which i forgot the email :S
#1390 [09:33] <Jonez> lolk
#1391 [09:33] <Jonez> :D
#1392 [09:34] <mbentley> and Jonez, you can go to http://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=DarkJonez and once it says 'true', your account has been verified.
#1393 [09:34] <mbentley> that way you don't have to keep checking in here ;)
#1394 [09:36] <KillSpammer> Auto refresh :)?
#1395 [09:36] <KillSpammer> :)
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#1397 [09:36] <KillSpammer> http://jnkboy.deviantart.com
#1398 [09:36] <KillSpammer> Epic :S
#1399 [09:37] <Jonez> k :P
#1400 [09:39] <Abuk007> hello
#1401 [09:39] <KillSpammer> Hi?
#1402 [09:39] <Abuk007> i have problem with running minecraft
#1403 [09:39] <KillSpammer> Oh ok...
#1404 [09:39] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1405 [09:39] <Abuk007> just bought beta
#1406 [09:39] <Abuk007> game stops at file update
#1407 [09:39] <KillSpammer> *yay*
#1408 [09:39] <Abuk007> 27 %
#1409 [09:39] <KillSpammer> :S
#1410 [09:39] <KillSpammer> Ok
#1411 [09:39] <Abuk007> redownloaded
#1412 [09:39] <Abuk007> xF
#1413 [09:39] <KillSpammer> Open up Run
#1414 [09:40] <KillSpammer> You have windows?
#1415 [09:40] <Abuk007> y
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#1417 [09:40] <Abuk007> 7 64 bit
#1418 [09:40] <KillSpammer> Do you know how to get into appdata?
#1419 [09:40] <Abuk007> y
#1420 [09:40] <KillSpammer> Ok
#1421 [09:40] <KillSpammer> Go into there
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#1423 [09:40] <KillSpammer> Find the file called
#1424 [09:40] <KillSpammer> .minecraft
#1425 [09:40] <KillSpammer> and delete it
#1426 [09:40] <KillSpammer> Then try again
#1427 [09:40] <KillSpammer> I suspect a corrupt file is getting stuck on
#1428 [09:40] <lahwran> http://minecraft.net/skin/blendmaster1024.png my skin looks awesome in this format, but this way: http://minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=blendmaster1024
#1429 [09:40] <lahwran> wtf!?
#1430 [09:41] <Abuk007> whole folder?
#1431 [09:41] <KillSpammer> Yeah
#1432 [09:41] <Abuk007> k, nice to see ya in both chats 0_O
#1433 [09:41] <Abuk007> xD
#1434 [09:41] <KillSpammer> I'm in 3 minecraft chats :S
#1435 [09:42] <Abuk007> restarted
#1436 [09:42] <lahwran> why is it not working?????
#1437 [09:42] <Abuk007> deleted files
#1438 [09:42] * lahwran cries in the corner
#1438 [09:42] <Abuk007> still same thing
#1439 [09:42] <KillSpammer> Lawran
#1440 [09:42] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1441 [09:42] <Abuk007> stops at same file
#1442 [09:42] <lahwran> lol
#1443 [09:42] <KillSpammer> Lahwran
#1444 [09:42] <Abuk007> Iwjgl.jar at 27%
#1445 [09:42] <KillSpammer> Seriously screwed up
#1446 [09:42] <KillSpammer> Hmmm
#1447 [09:42] <KillSpammer> Ok
#1448 [09:42] <KillSpammer> Delete the .minecraft again
#1449 [09:42] <lahwran> oh wait I know why it's not working, it's because the skin stuff is notchcode
#1450 [09:43] <KillSpammer> And redownload Minecraft.exe
#1451 [09:43] <lahwran> and notchcode doesn't work ...
#1452 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> Could you use the browser, and try running minecraft in-browser with the java console open?
#1453 [09:43] <KillSpammer> Does it look like that ingame?
#1454 [09:43] <lahwran> KillSpammer: not sure, haven't checked
#1455 [09:43] <KillSpammer> Check
#1456 [09:43] <KillSpammer> Because if you can go invis
#1457 [09:43] <KillSpammer> Epic...
#1458 [09:43] <lahwran> oh I'm pretty sure you can
#1459 [09:44] <lahwran> nope it's my epic skin
#1460 [09:44] <Abuk007> same....
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#1462 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> Abuk007 - Could you use the browser, and try running minecraft in-browser with the java console open?
#1463 [09:45] <KillSpammer> What GreyVulpine
#1464 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com the contents of the java console once it stops downloading
#1465 [09:45] <KillSpammer> said
#1466 [09:45] <Abuk007> in browser same
#1467 [09:45] <Abuk007> stops at same file
#1468 [09:45] <KillSpammer> I specify in bugs and stuff :S
#1469 [09:45] <KillSpammer> Not really java :)
#1470 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> Did you have the java error console open?
#1471 [09:46] <Abuk007> ?
#1472 [09:46] <Abuk007> no errors
#1473 [09:46] <KillSpammer> :S
#1474 [09:46] <Abuk007> java running in background
#1475 [09:46] <KillSpammer> The console
#1476 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> What browser are you using?
#1477 [09:46] <Abuk007> firefox 3.6
#1478 [09:46] <Abuk007> not the beta one
#1479 [09:46] <KillSpammer> Try with something else?
#1480 [09:46] <Abuk007> cmon
#1481 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> Up at tools, there should be a java console option
#1482 [09:46] <Abuk007> what with exe file?
#1483 [09:46] <KillSpammer> Minecraft is actualyl 2 applications
#1484 [09:47] <Abuk007> y
#1485 [09:47] <KillSpammer> The login screen
#1486 [09:47] <Abuk007> got my console
#1487 [09:47] <KillSpammer> And the actual game
#1488 [09:47] <KillSpammer> :S
#1489 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> Try loading minecraft again with the java console open
#1490 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> Does it pop up a bunch of text?
#1491 [09:47] <KillSpammer> Jonez
#1492 [09:47] <KillSpammer> Play nethack in the meantime!
#1493 [09:48] <Abuk007> y
#1494 [09:48] <Abuk007> s3 amazonaws things
#1495 [09:48] <Abuk007> adresses
#1496 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com the contents of the console
#1497 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Give us the url
#1498 [09:48] <Jonez> nethack
#1499 [09:48] <Abuk007> is there some of my account info?
#1500 [09:48] <Jonez> AAA
#1501 [09:48] <KillSpammer> http://pastebin.com
#1502 [09:49] <Abuk007> i see my login
#1503 [09:49] <KillSpammer> :)
#1504 [09:49] <KillSpammer> AAA?
#1505 [09:49] <Abuk007> dont want to loose my pass xF
#1506 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> You won't.
#1507 [09:49] <Abuk007> http://pastebin.com/StPmrzvj
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#1509 [09:50] <Abuk007> replaced just the ticket nr
#1510 [09:50] <Jonez> What is nethack
#1511 [09:50] <Jonez> >____________________-<
#1512 [09:50] <KillSpammer> A game?
#1513 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> Is that it?
#1514 [09:50] <KillSpammer> http://www.nethack.org/
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#1516 [09:50] <KillSpammer> :)
#1517 [09:50] <Jonez> ohk
#1518 [09:50] <Abuk007> so?
#1519 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> Abuk007 - That's all the java console shows?
#1520 [09:51] <Abuk007> y
#1521 [09:51] <Abuk007> before it its a bunch of default console commands
#1522 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Can you go to http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/lwjgl.jar with your browser
#1523 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> See if it pops up a download dialog
#1524 [09:51] <Abuk007> y
#1525 [09:51] <Abuk007> there is
#1526 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, are you running any security software that might block java from downloading these files?
#1527 [09:53] <Abuk007> dont think so, only kaspersky is there, but it doesnt block the process
#1528 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> Just the antivirus, or the security suite?
#1529 [09:54] <Abuk007> PURE
#1530 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#1531 [09:55] <Abuk007> kaspersky PURE
#1532 [09:55] <Abuk007> quite complete suite
#1533 [09:55] <Abuk007> brb
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#1535 [09:58] <Abuk007> reinstalled java
#1536 [09:58] <Abuk007> still the same
#1537 [09:59] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1538 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> Alright, these files should go in your .minecraft/bin folder
#1539 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/lwjgl.jar
#1540 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/jinput.jar
#1541 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/lwjgl_util.jar
#1542 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> and
#1543 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/minecraft.jar
#1544 [10:01] <KillSpammer> Oh noez
#1545 [10:01] <KillSpammer> I havent checked my base in an RTS game in 2 days!~
#1546 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> It's a goner.
#1547 [10:02] <KillSpammer> I just started
#1548 [10:02] <KillSpammer> So i think proection is still on lol
#1549 [10:02] <KillSpammer> But i prroberly have full resources :(
#1550 [10:02] <KillSpammer> Yep :S
#1551 [10:03] <Abuk007> so minecraft is fully in java?
#1552 [10:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1553 [10:03] <KillSpammer> Spent all of it in like 5 mins :S
#1554 [10:04] <Abuk007> files are in bin
#1555 [10:05] <Abuk007> but when i run the game
#1556 [10:05] <Abuk007> it still downloads the files
#1557 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> grrr
#1558 [10:05] <Abuk007> im becoming more frustrated... its my 15 euro
#1559 [10:06] <Abuk007> for a product i couldnt test
#1560 [10:06] <mbentley> he needs a version file
#1561 [10:06] <mbentley> otherwise i bet it will keep downloading
#1562 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it will
#1563 [10:07] <Abuk007> where do I get one and where do I put it?
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#1565 [10:07] <Solvius> goodafternoon :)
#1566 [10:07] <KillSpammer> I can send him my version?
#1567 [10:07] <KillSpammer> Wait a sec
#1568 [10:07] <KillSpammer> I'll upload it
#1569 [10:07] <Abuk007> ok
#1570 [10:08] <mbentley> http://www.mbentley.net/temp/minecraft/version
#1571 [10:08] <KillSpammer> http://www.mediafire.com/?a9bltokfkr9gr2r
#1572 [10:08] <KillSpammer> Aww...
#1573 [10:08] <KillSpammer> Beat me to it
#1574 [10:08] <mbentley> :D
#1575 [10:08] <KillSpammer> Damny ou for having a website
#1576 [10:09] <KillSpammer> I want one :S
#1577 [10:09] <Abuk007> heh
#1578 [10:09] <Abuk007> so
#1579 [10:09] <Abuk007> where do I put this?
#1580 [10:09] <mbentley> that does in 'bin' as well
#1581 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> /bin
#1582 [10:10] <KillSpammer> For having a site
#1583 [10:10] <KillSpammer> Mbently
#1584 [10:10] <Abuk007> started
#1585 [10:10] <KillSpammer> I follow you on twitter
#1586 [10:10] <Abuk007> now i get a black screen ingame
#1587 [10:10] <KillSpammer> :S
#1588 [10:10] <KillSpammer> Abuk007
#1589 [10:10] <mbentley> probably don't have all of the required files...
#1590 [10:10] <KillSpammer> Reinstall win7 :S
#1591 [10:10] <Abuk007> xF
#1592 [10:11] <Abuk007> 4 jar files 1 exe file in bin
#1593 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Definitely don't have all the files
#1594 [10:11] <KillSpammer> Don't we have natives?
#1595 [10:11] <mbentley> needs the 'natives' directory
#1596 [10:12] <KillSpammer> Bentley
#1597 [10:12] <KillSpammer> Your site has like no capitals lolo
#1598 [10:12] <KillSpammer> i i i i i i
#1599 [10:12] <mbentley> yup
#1600 [10:12] <Abuk007> so what do I do?
#1601 [10:12] <Abuk007> reinstall of win7 is not an option
#1602 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> Give us a couple minutes
#1603 [10:13] <KillSpammer> Want me to rewrite your site?
#1604 [10:13] <mbentley> http://www.mbentley.net/temp/minecraft/natives.zip
#1605 [10:13] <KillSpammer> Seeing how it looks horrible.
#1606 [10:13] <mbentley> download that and extract it to the 'bin' directory
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#1609 [10:14] <mbentley> KillSpammer: no thanks
#1610 [10:14] <mbentley> i don't care what my site looks like
#1611 [10:14] <mbentley> i just want it to be functional
#1612 [10:14] <Abuk007> ok it runs, im in menu
#1613 [10:14] <Abuk007> will see if it works
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#1615 [10:15] <Abuk007> k works
#1616 [10:15] <Abuk007> thanks guys
#1617 [10:15] <KillSpammer> Hmm
#1618 [10:16] <fogwraith> Lets see how my wooden house performs when it turns to day, it's surrounded by the undead ;P
#1619 [10:16] <Abuk007> hmmm
#1620 [10:16] <Abuk007> is there any server list?
#1621 [10:17] <Abuk007> no ingame browser i see
#1622 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1014
#1623 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Or #smp
#1624 [10:17] <Abuk007> Ty
#1625 [10:18] <Abuk007> :}
#1626 [10:18] <Abuk007> see you in game then :D
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#1628 [10:18] <KillSpammar> :S
#1629 [10:20] <KillSpammer> Hmm
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#1635 [10:54] <Kealper> i dislike just how close to death my server is getting....i really need that new server asap :/
#1636 [10:54] <Kealper> !load mod_console
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#1638 [10:55] * mbentley gives Kealper some super glue and duct tape
#1638 [10:56] <KillSpammer> :S
#1639 [10:56] <Kealper> idk if that'll hold it, it's pretty much all duct tape right now lol
#1640 [10:56] <KillSpammer> Damn you clone
#1641 [10:56] <KillSpammer> I need live support :S
#1642 [10:56] <Kealper> second time in two weeks that it's BSOD'd with a machine check exception
#1643 [10:57] * GreyVulpine gives Kealper bailing wire?
#1643 [10:57] <Kealper> and since microsoft is so descriptive, they don't even both to tell me what hardware failed the machine check....
#1644 [10:57] * KillSpammer Gives a hookshot to kealper
#1644 [10:57] <KillSpammer> That might work?
#1645 [10:58] * mbentley gives Kealper a debian iso
#1645 [10:58] <mbentley> :p
#1646 [10:58] <Kealper> lol
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#1648 [10:59] * GreyVulpine douses Kealper's server in kerosene and lights it up.
#1648 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Fire solves everything!
#1649 [10:59] <Kealper> meh, i think i'll give this thing a proper burial after i get my new server up and running
#1650 [10:59] <Kealper> it's served me well this past few years
#1651 [11:00] <mbentley> how old is your server? like what generation of hardware?
#1652 [11:00] <Kealper> the painfully old kind
#1653 [11:01] <Kealper> back in the days where a single core 1.8ghz sempron and 1 gig of ddr400 was hot stuff
#1654 [11:01] <mbentley> lol
#1655 [11:01] <Kealper> (which is what it has)
#1656 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> ewww semprons
#1657 [11:01] <Kealper> lol
#1658 [11:02] <Kealper> bastardized athlons ftw?
#1659 [11:02] <Kealper> hmm...windows update requires restart....dislike...
#1660 [11:02] <mbentley> silly windows
#1661 [11:02] <Kealper> i know right?
#1662 [11:03] <mbentley> that is my biggest complaint about windows
#1663 [11:03] <KillSpammer> My restart takes like 12 seconds i don't care much :S
#1664 [11:03] <KillSpammer> If i overclock and all i can get it down even lower :S
#1665 [11:03] <mbentley> would be nice to be able to keep a server up to date while maintaining uptime
#1666 [11:04] <Kealper> oh my mine is getting bad on this machine...and i don't restart often so i keep forgetting to even try and make it faster at booting
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#1668 [11:07] <Kealper> well, afk for a bit...i just woke up, seen the bsod (which was actually black with yellow text on that monitor; broken blue color pin on cable ftw)
#1669 [11:07] <KillSpammer> I wonder when clone1018[afk] will be back :(
#1670 [11:07] <Kealper> whenever he's done being afk?
#1671 [11:07] <KillSpammer> Idk?
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#1674 [11:15] <KillSpammer> :S
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#1689 [12:14] <Seiniyta> oh crap, oh crap. There was a electrical outage for a moment and now none of my worlds appear in the game :s
#1690 [12:16] <KillSpammer> Oh noez?
#1691 [12:17] <KillSpammer> Backups?
#1692 [12:17] <Seiniyta> much older
#1693 [12:17] <Seiniyta> the files are still there (the folders) but they don't appear in the game
#1694 [12:18] <KillSpammer> I expect save corruption
#1695 [12:18] <KillSpammer> To bad
#1696 [12:18] <Seiniyta> :s
#1697 [12:18] <KillSpammer> Should of backuped eariler
#1698 [12:19] * GreyVulpine shakes
#1698 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> Use MCedit
#1699 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> it's a map editor, just open it up there and resave it
#1700 [12:19] <Seiniyta> thanks you!
#1701 [12:20] <KillSpammer> Omg
#1702 [12:20] <KillSpammer> More knowledge for me
#1703 [12:20] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine feed me moar!
#1704 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1705 [12:20] <KillSpammer> :S
#1706 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Just stick around.
#1707 [12:21] <KillSpammer> I'm new to this channel i don't havem uch knowledge on the tech side of minecraft
#1708 [12:21] <KillSpammer> I'm more of ingame bugs
#1709 [12:21] <KillSpammer> And i know servers so yeah...
#1710 [12:21] <Seiniyta> you almost made me breakdown :p
#1711 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> I didn't either, till I stuck around and tried to help others
#1712 [12:23] <KillSpammer> Still reguarly backup
#1713 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> Always a good idea.
#1714 [12:23] <Seiniyta> I do have a backup, it's just 3 days old
#1715 [12:23] <KillSpammer> I'm gonna go make a batch file to backup auto :S
#1716 [12:23] <KillSpammer> Just run and auto backup yay
#1717 [12:24] <zz> Better save format will make backups easier
#1718 [12:24] <zz> Strange for all worlds to be corrupted at once though...
#1719 [12:24] <Seiniyta> yeah, it's quite annoying to copy a 300mb save file :p
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#1721 [12:25] <KillSpammer> I hope it gets compressed into one file
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#1723 [12:30] <Seiniyta> MC edit doesn't want to work
#1724 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> What's wrong?
#1725 [12:31] <KillSpammer> Hmm...
#1726 [12:31] <comrade_legion> Hey guys I'm having some issues with this: http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3119/whatrn.png that is preventing me from connecting to my own server, and I'm sure others can't either. I've tried redownloading the server files and such but no improvement. :(
#1727 [12:31] <Seiniyta> Error: attemp to retrieve context when no valid context
#1728 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> comrade_legion - Your map file is screwed up
#1729 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> Did you use a custom map from somewhere?
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#1731 [12:32] <comrade_legion> Oh that's great...no generated from Hey0
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#1733 [12:33] <KillSpammer> What?
#1734 [12:33] <KillSpammer> I missed something :S
#1735 [12:33] <oZode> Is this the Mod IRC?
#1736 [12:33] <comrade_legion> Only backup is from like 2 days ago. :|
#1737 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> Seiniyta - Try closing mcedit, going to your /.minecraft/saves folder
#1738 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> Look in whatever world folder it is
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#1740 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> rename the level.dat to level.bak
#1741 [12:34] <KillSpammer> oZode goto #hey0
#1742 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> then, level.dat_old to level.dat
#1743 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Then try opening it back up in mcedit
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#1745 [12:36] <Seiniyta> no, i's just the first time I want to launch MC edit it just get's to a black screen wiht the pre-mentioned error
#1746 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Oh, huh?
#1747 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> I haven't come across that problem at all with mcedit
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#1749 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Are you running this on windows? mac? *nix?
#1750 [12:38] <Feaurne> Guys
#1751 [12:38] <Feaurne> Fast one
#1752 [12:38] <Feaurne> You know singleplayer?
#1753 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1754 [12:38] <Feaurne> That game mode - is that possible to do multiplayer with my friend?
#1755 [12:38] <Feaurne> Just the two of us
#1756 [12:38] <Seiniyta> Windows
#1757 [12:38] <xales> Feaurne: yes
#1758 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> You can run a server, copy over the SP world over and have it on your MP server
#1759 [12:39] <Seiniyta> http://i52.tinypic.com/nbynbb.jpg that error
#1760 [12:39] <Feaurne> Could someone guide me through that?
#1761 [12:39] <xales> Feaurne: one second
#1762 [12:39] <xales> !help
#1763 [12:39] <xales> Grey
#1764 [12:39] <xales> whats the one for linking the server tutorial
#1765 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Yo?
#1766 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Uh
#1767 [12:40] <xales> that he added the other day
#1768 [12:40] <xales> !serverfaq
#1769 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> !help
#1770 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Dangit, I don't remember
#1771 [12:40] <aetherian> I wish we could still do some version of indev...
#1772 [12:40] <Feaurne> Alright mate
#1773 [12:40] <Feaurne> !server
#1774 [12:40] <Feaurne> No idea :')
#1775 [12:40] <Feaurne> !faq
#1776 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> !faq
#1777 [12:40] <xales> !enable
#1778 [12:41] <xales> looks like its busted
#1779 [12:41] <xales> anyway
#1780 [12:41] <xales> Feaurne: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Windows
#1781 [12:41] <aetherian> xales, because you care, I'm going away for a little now. just to let you know.
#1782 [12:41] <Feaurne> Cheers mate
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#1784 [12:41] <Feaurne> Ill have a read through, if it doesn't work ill pipe back up.
#1785 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Seiniyta - Any way you can zip up your world and send it over to me?
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#1787 [12:43] <Seiniyta> I can :)
#1788 [12:43] <Seiniyta> .rar good as well?
#1789 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> sure
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#1791 [12:43] <DopeGhoti> .tbz is better :)
#1792 [12:43] * DopeGhoti stops interfering
#1792 [12:44] <xales> AuBot: zzz
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#1795 [12:44] <xales> bot is busted
#1796 [12:44] <Seiniyta> it's archiving now, takes a bit
#1797 [12:44] <Seiniyta> megaupload good?
#1798 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> Whichever, whereever
#1799 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> They're all the same
#1800 [12:45] <Seiniyta> hehe, okay :)
#1801 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> eventually, Kreacher will fix it :)
#1802 [12:45] <xales> (you could use DCC...)
#1803 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> BLEH
#1804 [12:46] <Seiniyta> it's uploading now
#1805 [12:46] <Seiniyta> *predicts whole house complaining of sudden slow internet
#1806 [12:46] <lukegb> Ugh dcc
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#1808 [12:48] <Feaurne> Guys
#1809 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#1810 [12:48] <Feaurne> Were is the server propties text file?
#1811 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> It'll generate once you run the server once
#1812 [12:48] <Feaurne> Which i have
#1813 [12:48] <Feaurne> Were?
#1814 [12:48] <xales> It will be in the same place the .exe is
#1815 [12:48] <Feaurne> Same folder as it?
#1816 [12:48] <xales> es
#1817 [12:48] <Feaurne> Alright
#1818 [12:49] <Feaurne> Thanks!
#1819 [12:50] <Seiniyta> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=06FAM8IH that should be it
#1820 [12:51] <Seiniyta> Grey, does the link works?
#1821 [12:51] <DCC_sucks> One sec
#1822 [12:52] <KillSpammer> Oh hey xales
#1823 [12:52] <DCC_sucks> Looks good, downloading
#1824 [12:52] <xales> ello
#1825 [12:52] <KillSpammer> Wassup?
#1826 [12:52] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1827 [12:52] <xales> not much
#1828 [12:52] <xales> grey, why do you have a mibbit?
#1829 [12:52] <KillSpammer> *Kills grey*
#1830 [12:52] <KillSpammer> How could you...
#1831 [12:53] <DCC_sucks> machine running IRC seperate from main
#1832 [12:53] <DCC_sucks> this is the easiest way, aside from looking for another irc client to boot up
#1833 [12:53] <xales> I see
#1834 [12:54] <DopeGhoti> why does DCC allegedly suck?
#1835 [12:54] <xales> on home connections
#1836 [12:54] <DopeGhoti> again: why?
#1837 [12:54] <xales> you need to port forward to make it work, half the time
#1838 [12:54] <xales> and considering how much people have trouble with that already...
#1839 [12:55] <DopeGhoti> If you're behind NAT, you have to do it all the time.
#1840 [12:55] <DopeGhoti> but once you have it set up, it's bleeping awesome.
#1841 [12:55] <xales> so are we going to be #dcchelp too?
#1842 [12:55] <xales> ;)
#1843 [12:55] <DCC_sucks> May as well turn on a "please upload all viruses to me plz" option
#1844 [12:55] <DopeGhoti> it's no worst than having to use passive FTP
#1845 [12:55] <DopeGhoti> My preferred choice is s{c,ft}p.
#1846 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> Man, unraring a /world/ takes forever.
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#1848 [12:57] <Seiniyta> yep, hope notch hurries up with the save file stuff
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#1850 [12:58] <Seiniyta> thoguh I'm unsure how he'll handle the old-new save file stuff. that we don't all lose our stuff with the save file update
#1851 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Wow, what in the..
#1852 [13:00] <Seiniyta> ?
#1853 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> your spawn point is right above bedrock, surrounded by lava
#1854 [13:00] <Seiniyta> that's not right
#1855 [13:00] <xolotl> Seiniyta: I'm sure that even if Minecraft itself doesn't support doing an automatic conversion, there'll be converters available within minutes
#1856 [13:00] <xolotl> (from the community)
#1857 [13:00] <Seiniyta> are my structures intact though? the bridge wiht water etc? XD
#1858 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I'm going to move your spawn point
#1859 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea
#1860 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> I see a forest that's on fire right now
#1861 [13:01] <Seiniyta> I made more then one fire :p
#1862 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> let's see.. there's a water pillar
#1863 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> a dirt pillar
#1864 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> railroad tracks..
#1865 [13:01] <Seiniyta> water pillar, with glass underneath?
#1866 [13:01] <Seiniyta> up
#1867 [13:01] <Seiniyta> yup
#1868 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> yeah
#1869 [13:02] <Seiniyta> phew
#1870 [13:02] <Seiniyta> *still troubled mcEdit doesn't work
#1871 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> Just going to reconfirm that the world still opens, one sec
#1872 [13:02] <Seiniyta> alrighty
#1873 [13:03] <Seiniyta> thank you!
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#1875 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Looks good.
#1876 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> rarring
#1877 [13:04] <Seiniyta> I'm squaling like a little girl here
#1878 [13:04] <aetherian> rawr
#1879 [13:04] <Seiniyta> squeeling, ah, or how you say it.
#1880 [13:04] <aetherian> squealing?
#1881 [13:04] <Seiniyta> yes
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#1883 [13:05] <aetherian> hey uh
#1884 [13:05] <aetherian> what does "Disconnected (An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine)." even mean?
#1885 [13:06] <aetherian> I keep getting it
#1886 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> In what context?
#1887 [13:06] <aetherian> under the context that I just DCed, in irc.
#1888 [13:06] <aetherian> this is an irc thing.
#1889 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> that means that some other process stepped in and killed your connection
#1890 [13:06] <aetherian> hmm
#1891 [13:06] <aetherian> awfully kind of it
#1892 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> CPUthanasia.
#1893 [13:07] <aetherian> hey uh, a friend wants to use irc, and wants to know what client he should use. suggestions?
#1894 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> OS?
#1895 [13:07] <aetherian> dunno. windows, I believe
#1896 [13:07] <Super_Meat_Boy> aetherian: telnet
#1897 [13:08] <Super_Meat_Boy> :3
#1898 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> No!
#1899 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> Windows- xckat. Otherwise, irssi
#1900 [13:08] <Super_Meat_Boy> neh, i recommend http://silverex.org/
#1901 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> that is xchat.
#1902 [13:08] <aetherian> haha
#1903 [13:08] <Super_Meat_Boy> i know
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#1905 [13:08] <Super_Meat_Boy> i was linking to a free build
#1906 [13:08] <Super_Meat_Boy> retard
#1907 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> to need to get all ad hominem up in this.
#1908 [13:10] <DCC_sucks> Seiniyta: http://www.mediafire.com/?b1vh43mbnsuv2zi
#1909 [13:11] <Seiniyta> thanks! *downloading now*
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#1911 [13:12] <Catch`fl1r> anyone cares to help me with an error report i get whenever i start minecraft?
#1912 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> www.pastebin.com
#1913 [13:13] <Catch`fl1r> http://pastebin.com/kFgQMixj GreyVulpine
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#1915 [13:13] <Fluuux> hello
#1916 [13:13] <Fluuux> guys
#1917 [13:13] <Fluuux> anyone here?
#1918 [13:13] <mbentley> yes
#1919 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1920 [13:13] <Catch`fl1r> about 131, yes
#1921 [13:13] <mbentley> maybe
#1922 [13:14] <Fluuux> ok cool
#1923 [13:14] <Fluuux> could of you guys help me?
#1924 [13:14] <mbentley> only if you ask a question ;)
#1925 [13:14] <Fluuux> ok
#1926 [13:14] <Fluuux> i have a mac..... and im trying to setup a server on it
#1927 [13:14] <Fluuux> but i need help
#1928 [13:14] <Fluuux> i know i know i can look it up
#1929 [13:14] <Fluuux> i did, and mest up like 40+ times
#1930 [13:15] <Fluuux> i just need someone to help me
#1931 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Catch`fl1r - Update java and your video card drivers?
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#1933 [13:15] <Catch`fl1r> java is up to date at least
#1934 [13:15] <Catch`fl1r> and video should be, 2 secs
#1935 [13:15] <Fluuux> anyone?
#1936 [13:15] <mbentley> well where are you getting stuck?
#1937 [13:16] <Fluuux> generally
#1938 [13:16] <Fluuux> creating one with 2gb
#1939 [13:16] <Fluuux> dedicated to it
#1940 [13:16] <Fluuux> so me and some friends
#1941 [13:16] <Fluuux> get on
#1942 [13:16] <Fluuux> about 3 max
#1943 [13:16] <mbentley> type a full sentence on a line and it will be easier to read
#1944 [13:16] <mbentley> if you don't mind :)
#1945 [13:16] <Fluuux> ok im sorry
#1946 [13:17] <mbentley> so you are able to create a server with 2gb of ram allocated to it but it isn't running smoothly? crashes?
#1947 [13:17] <Fluuux> im trying to setup a minecraft server, on my mac, I have read about it and mest up like 40+ times, So i need help from someone that knows
#1948 [13:17] <Fluuux> no i just don't know i general how to make one
#1949 [13:17] <Fluuux> i have the .jar downloaded into my desktop, and inside a folder
#1950 [13:17] <Catch`fl1r> haha GreyVulpine where can i find my video card name, whats the cmd in run meny again?
#1951 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> dxdiag?
#1952 [13:18] <Fluuux> mbentley
#1953 [13:18] <Fluuux> do you have teamspeak 3?
#1954 [13:18] <mbentley> no
#1955 [13:18] <Fluuux> i host one and if its easier for you to explain you can come.
#1956 [13:18] <mbentley> sorry, i'm at work
#1957 [13:18] <Fluuux> oh... ok well could you help me?
#1958 [13:18] <Fluuux> oh sorry
#1959 [13:18] <mbentley> it's ok
#1960 [13:18] <mbentley> i'm the one at work ;)
#1961 [13:18] <Fluuux> could someone else help me?
#1962 [13:19] <Fluuux> since mbentley is busy
#1963 [13:19] <Fluuux> D:
#1964 [13:19] <mbentley> Fluuux: have you looked at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=33560
#1965 [13:19] <mbentley> i'm not busy, just limited on what i can do on this machine ;)
#1966 [13:19] <KillSpammer> Seriously Fluuux things like creating a server isn't something to go get live support for.
#1967 [13:19] <KillSpammer> Theres many guides out there
#1968 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Meh, we do it all the time
#1969 [13:19] <mbentley> that thread seems like a pretty awesome guide
#1970 [13:19] <KillSpammer> They're mostly simple.
#1971 [13:19] <Fluuux> kill
#1972 [13:20] <KillSpammer> But you may continue...
#1973 [13:20] <Catch`fl1r> KillSpammer it's called MineCraftHELP
#1974 [13:20] <Fluuux> some people know more than others
#1975 [13:20] <Fluuux> i might know more than you do in something
#1976 [13:20] <Fluuux> and ask me help for it
#1977 [13:20] <KillSpammer> I know but something that has many guide beforehand isn't something to be asked :S
#1978 [13:20] <Fluuux> same as im doing know
#1979 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> Fluuux - Happen to have teamviewer?
#1980 [13:20] <Fluuux> yea i have teamviewr
#1981 [13:20] <KillSpammer> Idea:
#1982 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> Would you trust one of us to guide you through it with that?
#1983 [13:20] <Fluuux> but i don't like people on my computer unless i talk to them
#1984 [13:21] <KillSpammer> I'll do it?
#1985 [13:21] <Fluuux> if you come to my ts3 then yes
#1986 [13:21] <KillSpammer> :)
#1987 [13:21] <Fluuux> no kill
#1988 [13:21] <Fluuux> i don't trust you, for what you told me
#1989 [13:21] <KillSpammer> Whynot?
#1990 [13:21] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1991 [13:21] <Fluuux> Seriously Fluuux things like creating a server isn't something to go get live support for.
#1992 [13:21] <KillSpammer> Theres so many guides on this.
#1993 [13:21] <KillSpammer> Well it isn't?
#1994 [13:21] <Catch`fl1r> And he says they dont work
#1995 [13:21] <KillSpammer> You can but it seems you jsut want someone to guide you through doing it
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#1997 [13:21] <KillSpammer> You could atleast try to do it from a guide
#1998 [13:21] <Seiniyta> well, it seems most is still there
#1999 [13:21] <Jonez> Hi.
#2000 [13:22] <KillSpammer> And if you run into a problem
#2001 [13:22] <KillSpammer> Ask for help
#2002 [13:22] <Seiniyta> though somehow a place where I built is now snowy
#2003 [13:22] <Fluuux> i have tryed by port forwarding
#2004 [13:22] <Jonez> Killspammer, I havent got teh premium yet
#2005 [13:22] <Jonez> D:
#2006 [13:22] <KillSpammer> Welocme back Jonez
#2007 [13:22] <Fluuux> and using the minecraft wiki
#2008 [13:22] <Fluuux> and if mest up on both attempts
#2009 [13:22] <Seiniyta> and my inventory items are gone, but other than that all is good :D
#2010 [13:22] <Jonez> It takes the 24 hours, right?
#2011 [13:22] <mbentley> Jonez: it can
#2012 [13:22] <KillSpammer> Up to 24hours
#2013 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Heh, sorry Seiniyta
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#2015 [13:22] <KillSpammer> Fluuux
#2016 [13:22] <Fluuux> mbentley hold on im reading the article you gave me
#2017 [13:22] <KillSpammer> Want me to guide you through doing it the Hamachi way?
#2018 [13:22] <Jonez> K
#2019 [13:22] <Seiniyta> no problem, at least most of it is still alive
#2020 [13:23] <Jonez> Now, Im da AFK!
#2021 [13:23] <Fluuux> hamachi?
#2022 [13:23] <KillSpammer> ITs quiet simple and its good for a small amount of people
#2023 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> VPN
#2024 [13:23] <KillSpammer> Its a network tunneling system
#2025 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> and that's really not the best way.. since everybody needs hamachi to join
#2026 [13:23] <KillSpammer> It basicly allows connection through your computer if that person is in the network
#2027 [13:23] <Seiniyta> ooooof, I've had put all my oron in a chest
#2028 [13:23] <KillSpammer> He only wants about 3 people right?
#2029 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#2030 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> Hamachi is still a pain in the butt, and will be useless if ICANN decides to allocate the 5.0.0.0/8 network.
#2031 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Fluuux - TS3 ip?
#2032 [13:24] <KillSpammer> Well
#2033 [13:24] <KillSpammer> I'm just tryign to help :S
#2034 [13:24] <Fluuux> ts34.gameservers.com port is 9133
#2035 [13:24] <Catch`fl1r> omg advertisments
#2036 [13:24] <KillSpammer> Lol
#2037 [13:24] <Catch`fl1r> ban!
#2038 [13:25] <DopeGhoti> Catch`fl1r: who to the what, now?
#2039 [13:25] <KillSpammer> Advertisments are allowed apon request.
#2040 [13:25] <Catch`fl1r> hey
#2041 [13:25] <Fluuux> i gave the ip to grey because he asked it
#2042 [13:25] <Fluuux> i didin't advertise
#2043 [13:25] <DopeGhoti> KillSpammer: "upon"
#2044 [13:25] <Fluuux> fyi
#2045 [13:25] <Catch`fl1r> I was kidding :/
#2046 [13:25] <Fluuux> i know
#2047 [13:25] <KillSpammer> I was gonna fix that like 0.3 seconds after you said that
#2048 [13:25] <Fluuux> just wanted to make it clear
#2049 [13:25] <Catch`fl1r> okay, boss!
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#2051 [13:26] <Fluuux> do you have a mic?
#2052 [13:26] <Catch`fl1r> yes
#2053 [13:26] <Fluuux> not you :P
#2054 [13:26] <KillSpammer> I feel like joing that TS
#2055 [13:26] <Fluuux> join it
#2056 [13:26] <DopeGhoti> KillSpammer: that's rather precisely-timed scheduling of typo correction.
#2057 [13:26] <Catch`fl1r> me 2
#2058 [13:26] <Fluuux> join it
#2059 [13:26] <KillSpammer> Yes it is
#2060 [13:26] <KillSpammer> Lol
#2061 [13:26] <Fluuux> lol
#2062 [13:26] <aetherian> dopefish, some people like to be organized
#2063 [13:26] <Fluuux> greyvulpine
#2064 [13:26] <KillSpammer> I calculate every thing i type
#2065 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> sec
#2066 [13:26] <Fluuux> k sorry
#2067 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> I haven't used TS in a year
#2068 [13:26] <Fluuux> lol
#2069 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: there's organization, and there's "I will correct that typo in 6.3 seconds."
#2070 [13:27] <Catch`fl1r> o
#2071 [13:27] <Fluuux> :F
#2072 [13:27] <Fluuux> :D
#2073 [13:27] * username17 [username17@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2074 [13:27] <Catch`fl1r> ip -> connect GreyVulpine? :P
#2075 [13:27] <aetherian> veeery organized
#2076 [13:27] <Fluuux> catch
#2077 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> Happy Friday, username17; welcome to #minecrafthelp! May we take your order?
#2078 [13:27] <Fluuux> grey is in ts3 already
#2079 [13:28] <KillSpammer> What DopeGhoti said
#2080 [13:28] <Fluuux> and kill spammer
#2081 [13:28] <Catch`fl1r> catcg what Fluuux
#2082 [13:28] <Catch`fl1r> catch
#2083 [13:28] <username17> A greeter bot?
#2084 [13:28] <KillSpammer> Nah
#2085 [13:28] * DopeGhoti resents the accusation.
#2085 [13:28] <Fluuux> i was telling you catch
#2086 [13:28] <KillSpammer> Just someone who types fast :)
#2087 [13:28] <Fluuux> that grey is in ts3 already
#2088 [13:28] <KillSpammer> Soo
#2089 [13:28] * DopeGhoti is at _least_ 73% organic.
#2089 [13:28] <KillSpammer> How may we take your your order?
#2090 [13:28] <KillSpammer> Is it bug?
#2091 [13:28] <KillSpammer> Tech?
#2092 [13:28] <Fluuux> i want french fries
#2093 [13:28] <Catch`fl1r> good for you! then u get your help! :D
#2094 [13:28] <KillSpammer> Server related?
#2095 [13:28] <Fluuux> and 3 big macs
#2096 [13:28] <aetherian> ooh
#2097 [13:28] <KillSpammer> Or you just want to join the chat?
#2098 [13:28] <Seiniyta> hmm, and it's like the grass is litttle bleaker now too
#2099 [13:29] <aetherian> organic stuff is good for you
#2100 [13:29] <Catch`fl1r> Just waiting for the video card installment
#2101 [13:29] * aetherian eats the dope fish
#2101 [13:29] <username17> Ahh then, thank you Ghoti. Hope your Friday goes well too.
#2102 [13:29] <Fluuux> lol
#2103 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> cheers.
#2104 [13:29] <KillSpammer> Its saturday for me :)
#2105 [13:29] <aetherian> blech
#2106 [13:29] <Fluuux> i think grey is fooling with me :d
#2107 [13:29] <KillSpammer> Australia - Ftw
#2108 [13:29] <aetherian> this is bitter
#2109 [13:29] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, never fools
#2110 [13:29] <Fluuux> why is everyone autralian on minecraft
#2111 [13:30] <Fluuux> :D
#2112 [13:30] <KillSpammer> Lol what?
#2113 [13:30] <Fluuux> im mexican/american
#2114 [13:30] <Fluuux> i crossed the boreder
#2115 [13:30] <Fluuux> border
#2116 [13:30] <KillSpammer> Theres hardly any australians on minecraft?
#2117 [13:30] <Fluuux> lol jk
#2118 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> Fluuux - Don't suppose you can hear me
#2119 [13:30] * DopeGhoti isn't Australian on Minecraft. He's Welsh.
#2119 [13:30] <Fluuux> nope
#2120 [13:30] <Fluuux> i can't
#2121 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> (but only in Minecraft)
#2122 [13:30] <Fluuux> maybe your mic settings?
#2123 [13:30] <Fluuux> there
#2124 [13:30] <Fluuux> i heard something
#2125 [13:30] <Fluuux> lol
#2126 [13:31] <Fluuux> yay!
#2127 [13:31] <KillSpammer> My voice sounds weird
#2128 [13:31] <Catch`fl1r> Creds GreyVulpine :) Thanks for the help, should have known it was my drivers
#2129 [13:31] <Fluuux> finally we talk
#2130 [13:31] <KillSpammer> It hazn't cracked yet
#2131 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> (yay, a page full now of people talking in IRC about talking in Teamspeak.)
#2132 [13:31] <Fluuux> after being in here for like 10 minutes
#2133 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> (or failing to)
#2134 [13:31] <KillSpammer> Lol
#2135 [13:31] <Fluuux> we type instead of talking
#2136 [13:31] <KillSpammer> Ok
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#2138 [13:32] <KillSpammer> Was that an elevator?
#2139 [13:32] <The_Observer> Alright so problem loading minecraft
#2140 [13:32] <The_Observer> the graphics drivers are up to date but i keep getting this http://pastebin.com/Fv4YPKYn
#2141 [13:33] <KillSpammer> OH :S
#2142 [13:33] <KillSpammer> Java?
#2143 [13:33] <KillSpammer> What?
#2144 [13:33] <KillSpammer> Oh lol
#2145 [13:33] <KillSpammer> Got java uptodate?
#2146 [13:33] <Cial> yea java is up to date
#2147 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> Cial: what flavor of video card?
#2148 [13:33] <Cial> intel
#2149 [13:33] <KillSpammer> Also any texturepacks installed?
#2150 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> "Well, there's your problem right there!"
#2151 [13:33] <Cial> nope all default
#2152 [13:33] <KillSpammer> Hmmm
#2153 [13:34] <Cial> and DopeGhoti stfu it works on my laptop
#2154 [13:34] <KillSpammer> Well it says it your video card drivers
#2155 [13:34] <Cial> thats what the error said too
#2156 [13:34] <mbentley> by 'updated video drivers' do you mean, you downloaded the latest from intel?
#2157 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> What desktop res/bit depth are you at?
#2158 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> Do you get the same error in the applet?
#2159 [13:34] <Cial> from dell and intel
#2160 [13:35] <Cial> will not load from the browser/client/ or jar
#2161 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> same error in both?
#2162 [13:35] <Cial> yes
#2163 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> What display res/depth are you at?
#2164 [13:36] <Cial> 1280x1024
#2165 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> by?
#2166 [13:36] <Cial> what do you mean by?
#2167 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> what bit depth?
#2168 [13:36] <username17> Color depth
#2169 [13:36] <Cial> where would i see that
#2170 [13:36] <Cial> ok one sec
#2171 [13:37] <username17> Settings tab, advanced
#2172 [13:39] <Cial> it was at 16 ive upped it to 32 and it still failed
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#2174 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#2175 [13:39] <oZode> I can't find the mctmp folder
#2176 [13:39] <oZode> I searched everywhere for it
#2177 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> And other 3d-accelerated programs work properly
#2178 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> oZode: which OS?
#2179 [13:40] <oZode> mac
#2180 [13:40] <Cial> example its running win 7 32bit basic
#2181 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> oZode: I believe it's in ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/ somewhere
#2182 [13:42] <Cial> soooo this desktop is FUBAR huh?
#2183 [13:42] <DopeGhoti> I woudn't say FUBAR
#2184 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> have you tried any other 3D apps recently?
#2185 [13:43] <oZode> II still can't find it
#2186 [13:43] <Cial> not that im aware of...whats an example of one
#2187 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> ..pretty much any recent game?
#2188 [13:43] <Cial> not lately
#2189 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> off the top of my head; grap the Portal demo or soemthing
#2190 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> to make sure your video card actually works
#2191 [13:44] <Cial> it will play Halo CE
#2192 [13:44] <oZode> Where else can i get the mctmp folder?
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#2194 [13:45] <Seiniyta> My world is screwed up everywhere I didn't build anything important lol
#2195 [13:45] <Cial> my display adapter says its a "Radeon X1300/X1550 serries"
#2196 [13:45] <Seiniyta> new chunks over the old ones etc
#2197 [13:45] <blackout1471> hey can anyone help me?
#2198 [13:45] <KillSpammer> blackout1471, yes?
#2199 [13:45] <KillSpammer> Ask away
#2200 [13:46] <mbentley> blackout1471: just ask your question and someone will help
#2201 [13:46] <blackout1471> my server crash when my freind join it go blue screen can you hel?
#2202 [13:46] <blackout1471> help
#2203 [13:46] <KillSpammer> Uhh not really...
#2204 [13:46] <DopeGhoti> Cial: that's not an Intel video card.. I thought that's what you said yo uhad
#2205 [13:46] <Cial> wow thats..not good
#2206 [13:47] <mbentley> do you see what the message says when it blue screens?
#2207 [13:47] <Cial> it is an intel some dumbass flung the wrong drivers on fucking school comps
#2208 [13:47] <Fluuux> YES!!! greyvulpine is helping me :D
#2209 [13:47] <Cial> so probably the problem there?
#2210 [13:47] <Fluuux> we got it up
#2211 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> Cial: I"d guess so, yes
#2212 [13:47] <blackout1471> yearh something with a program go wrong
#2213 [13:47] <Fluuux> but we need some way to make it run in one click
#2214 [13:47] <Fluuux> :D
#2215 [13:47] <Cial> trying that (working on a comp for a friend)\
#2216 [13:48] <KillSpammer> Well...
#2217 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> blackout1471: the day that's an actual error message that's intended to be useful, I"ll buy a hat so that I'll have one to eat, and eat it.
#2218 [13:48] <KillSpammer> Blackout we can't just help you with no information.
#2219 [13:48] <KillSpammer> I want a notch hat!
#2220 [13:48] <blackout1471> sry i know but it is a windows error my pc restart efter blue screen...
#2221 [13:48] <blackout1471> after...
#2222 [13:48] <mbentley> if there is an error, we need to know the exact message
#2223 [13:49] <blackout1471> okey so how can i capture it?
#2224 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> Tell your computer not to auto-restart on bluescreens
#2225 [13:49] <blackout1471> in bios?
#2226 [13:49] <KillSpammer> Write it down?
#2227 [13:49] <KillSpammer> Lol
#2228 [13:49] <mbentley> what os?
#2229 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> in Windows.
#2230 [13:49] <KillSpammer> Take a photo ofit?
#2231 [13:49] <blackout1471> windows
#2232 [13:49] <mbentley> windows what
#2233 [13:49] <blackout1471> vista
#2234 [13:50] <DopeGhoti> "Well, there's your problem right there."
#2235 [13:50] <blackout1471> i can't take a photo because it close my computer down and all it's programs...
#2236 [13:50] <mbentley> blackout1471: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windowsvista/ht/arestartvista.htm
#2237 [13:50] <blackout1471> ok i try that
#2238 [13:51] <blackout1471> thanks back in a minute
#2239 [13:51] <mbentley> then reproduce the problem and write down the error message :)
#2240 [13:51] <blackout1471> ok
#2241 [13:52] <Seiniyta> oh dear, there was a small forest fire before the corrupted file, now it's the whole island on fire
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#2244 [13:55] <The_Observer> blar so with 7 min left in the day im not gonna bother fixing the drivers on that thing
#2245 [13:55] <The_Observer> but yea
#2246 [13:57] <Fluuux> OMGOMGOMGOMG
#2247 [13:57] <Fluuux> i got my server up
#2248 [13:57] <Fluuux> thanks to grey :D
#2249 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> No prob.
#2250 [13:57] <Fluuux> hey grey
#2251 [13:57] <Fluuux> one last question
#2252 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Shoot.
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#2254 [13:57] <Fluuux> how many people could it support with 2gb of ram?
#2255 [13:57] <Fluuux> should i add 3?
#2256 [13:58] <Fluuux> idk D:
#2257 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> By then, it'd really depend on your connection speed.
#2258 [13:58] <mbentley> with 2gb of ram, it can support more than 3 ;)
#2259 [13:58] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#2260 [13:58] <Fluuux> oh well i upgraded my 1mbps to 6mbps
#2261 [13:58] <Fluuux> is that good?
#2262 [13:58] <Fluuux> internet?
#2263 [13:58] <Fluuux> im with comcast
#2264 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> I'm going to assume that's downstream, not up
#2265 [13:58] <mbentley> depends on your upload speed
#2266 [13:58] <Fluuux> oh
#2267 [13:59] <Fluuux> how can i see my upload?
#2268 [13:59] <Fluuux> or what should i do, like can i upgrade my uplaod stream?
#2269 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> speedtest.net
#2270 [13:59] <Fluuux> or cna't?
#2271 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Can see what your connection speed is like with that
#2272 [13:59] <Fluuux> oh ok, is their a way to upgrade my upload speed?
#2273 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Pay comcast more.
#2274 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure they have more packages available.
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#2278 [14:05] <aetherian> ahh, paying money- the all in one way to get anything you want
#2279 [14:05] <Fluuux> sorry
#2280 [14:05] <Fluuux> grey...
#2281 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2282 [14:05] <Fluuux> my internet dropped
#2283 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
#2284 [14:05] <Fluuux> and my mac crashed D:
#2285 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Oh joy.
#2286 [14:05] <aetherian> oh.
#2287 [14:05] <aetherian> mac.
#2288 [14:06] <aetherian> no wonder.
#2289 [14:06] <aetherian> ;p
#2290 [14:06] <Fluuux> anyways grey my main question is, is their anyway i can upgrade my upload speed?
#2291 [14:06] * aetherian kills himself
#2291 [14:06] <mbentley> upgrade your internet package with comcast
#2292 [14:06] <mbentley> you'd have to ask them :)
#2293 [14:07] <Fluuux> yea but what do i say?
#2294 [14:07] <aetherian> say
#2295 [14:07] <mbentley> is their anyway i can upgrade my upload speed?
#2296 [14:07] <mbentley> that might work ;)
#2297 [14:07] <Fluuux> because my internat package is 6mbps
#2298 [14:07] * aetherian kills himself again
#2298 [14:07] <aetherian> ugh
#2299 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> I want to upgrade my internet package.
#2300 [14:07] <aetherian> ima go for a lil
#2301 [14:07] <Fluuux> oh ok thanks mbentley
#2302 [14:07] <Fluuux> grey i told them that
#2303 [14:08] <Fluuux> hold on
#2304 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> With a 6 meg down, I've got no doubt you've got something close to a meg up.
#2305 [14:08] <Fluuux> i will give you my direct link to speedtest result
#2306 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> which could handle maybe a half dozen people?
#2307 [14:08] <Fluuux> yea around their
#2308 [14:08] <Fluuux> O.o
#2309 [14:09] <Fluuux> but my internet connection has been kinda wierd lately
#2310 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Wierd?
#2311 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> It's like weird, but with wires.
#2312 [14:09] <Fluuux> when it gets to the part of uploading part it says their was an error uploading
#2313 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> Does it.. tell you what the error was?
#2314 [14:10] <Fluuux> can you see this?
#2315 [14:10] <Fluuux> i think my internet crashed D:
#2316 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> We can see ya
#2317 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> or it it one of those SUPER-helpful "Something broke. [OK] [Cancel]" dialogs?
#2318 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Probably a speedtest, "We couldn't upload" error
#2319 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Wow, his 'net does suck.
#2320 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> as does his grammar and homophone awareness.
#2321 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> but that's another issue entirely.
#2322 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Meh, he's a kid.
#2323 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully schoolin' do him some good.
#2324 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Down in Texas.
#2325 [14:15] * GreyVulpine snerks.
#2325 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> It's never too early to get a grip on lexical syntax rules.
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#2327 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> Happy Friday, B-Fir3; welcome to #minecrafthelp! May we take your order?
#2328 [14:16] <KillSpammer> Lol dope
#2329 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> KillSpammer: what? It never hurts to be cordial.
#2330 [14:17] <KillSpammer> Ok
#2331 [14:17] <KillSpammer> B-Fir3,
#2332 [14:17] <KillSpammer> How may we take your order then?
#2333 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> (well, it's an improvement; he's started using commas. Now to figure out how to remotely disable his Enter key)
#2334 [14:23] <mbentley> lol DopeGhoti
#2335 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Pfft. Bind every key to alt-f4
#2336 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Much more effective
#2337 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: again, how to remotely do so? :)
#2338 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Well, a few minutes at his keyboard with a soldering iron could do it..
#2339 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> As for remotely, hell if I know.
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#2341 [14:25] <KillSpammer> :S
#2342 [14:25] <KillSpammer> Back
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#2344 [14:26] <Fluuux> hey grey
#2345 [14:26] <Fluuux> are you here?
#2346 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2347 [14:26] <KillSpammer> He is
#2348 [14:26] <KillSpammer> :)
#2349 [14:26] <Fluuux> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1101537010.png
#2350 [14:26] <Fluuux> look
#2351 [14:26] <Fluuux> thats my specs
#2352 [14:26] <Fluuux> on my internet
#2353 [14:27] * GreyVulpine is jealous
#2353 [14:27] <Fluuux> ?
#2354 [14:27] <mbentley> lol a little better than 6mbps down
#2355 [14:27] * GreyVulpine gags
#2355 [14:27] <Fluuux> what?
#2356 [14:27] <Fluuux> is it bad?
#2357 [14:27] <mbentley> no, that's great
#2358 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> No, that's actually really good
#2359 [14:28] <Fluuux> ok so my server will be fine?
#2360 [14:28] <Fluuux> :D
#2361 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> You've got 2 megs up, which could support a decent size server.
#2362 [14:28] <mbentley> the world really needs more synchronous up/down internet speeds...
#2363 [14:28] <Fluuux> ok cool thanks grey
#2364 [14:28] <Fluuux> :D
#2365 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> ... and 25 megs down, ya lucky... grr.
#2366 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> The world has them. It's just the US that's slaptarded about it
#2367 [14:28] <Fluuux> is that bad?
#2368 [14:28] <mbentley> :)
#2369 [14:29] <Fluuux> idk
#2370 [14:29] <Fluuux> my mom got this package for me
#2371 [14:29] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2371 [14:29] <Fluuux> :O
#2372 [14:29] * GreyVulpine steals Fluuux's 'net
#2372 [14:29] <Fluuux> noooooo
#2373 [14:29] <Fluuux> D:
#2374 [14:30] <Fluuux> brb ima go get my insulin
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#2377 [14:30] * mbentley hugs his intarwebs
#2377 [14:30] <GigaClon> Im getting a crash at startup after the logo
#2378 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Any error reports?
#2379 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> GigaClon: of what sort? any error message?
#2380 [14:31] <GigaClon> Generated 1/7/11 2:30 PM
#2381 [14:31] <GigaClon> Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.1_02
#2382 [14:31] <GigaClon> OS: Windows Vista (amd64) version 6.0
#2383 [14:31] <GigaClon> Java: 1.6.0_16, Sun Microsystems Inc.
#2384 [14:31] <GigaClon> VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc.
#2385 [14:31] <GigaClon> LWJGL: 2.4.2
#2386 [14:31] <GigaClon> OpenGL: GeForce GT 220/PCI/SSE2 version 3.3.0, NVIDIA Corporation
#2387 [14:31] <GigaClon> java.nio.BufferOverflowException
#2388 [14:31] <GigaClon> at java.nio.DirectByteBuffer.put(Unknown Source)
#2389 [14:31] <KillSpammer> Upload to http://pastebin.com
#2390 [14:31] <GigaClon> at java.nio.ByteBuffer.put(Unknown Source)
#2391 [14:31] <GigaClon> at ge.a(SourceFile:148)
#2392 [14:31] <KillSpammer> ...
#2393 [14:31] <GigaClon> at ge.a(SourceFile:62)
#2394 [14:31] <GigaClon> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.i(SourceFile:1053)
#2395 [14:31] <GigaClon> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:677)
#2396 [14:31] <GigaClon> at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
#2397 [14:31] <GigaClon> --- END ERROR REPORT 18a6afd8 ----------
#2398 [14:31] <GigaClon> soz
#2399 [14:31] <GigaClon> http://pastebin.com/xtQJ7wZs
#2400 [14:32] <KillSpammer> YOu better be sorry *rage*
#2401 [14:32] <mbentley> first, i'd update java
#2402 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> indeed, your java is rather out of date.
#2403 [14:33] <GigaClon> website?
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#2405 [14:33] <mbentley> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
#2406 [14:33] <mbentley> download jre
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#2408 [14:34] <blackout1471> hey, again
#2409 [14:35] <blackout1471> i got a problem guys can anybody help me with a server crashing error?
#2410 [14:35] <mbentley> did you get the error from the bsod?
#2411 [14:35] <blackout1471> bios?
#2412 [14:36] <mbentley> what?
#2413 [14:36] <mbentley> you are getting a blue screen of death, correct?
#2414 [14:36] <blackout1471> this is the message when i get blue screen
#2415 [14:36] <blackout1471> yearh xD
#2416 [14:36] <blackout1471> http://img222.imageshack.us/f/crashxy.jpg/
#2417 [14:36] <mbentley> update your video drivers
#2418 [14:36] <blackout1471> look there
#2419 [14:36] <blackout1471> is it that?
#2420 [14:36] <mbentley> do you know what video card you have?
#2421 [14:37] <blackout1471> ye 2 sec
#2422 [14:37] <blackout1471> nvidia Geforce GTS 250 :D
#2423 [14:38] <Fluuux> ok im back
#2424 [14:38] <mbentley> blackout1471: go to http://www.nvidia.com and go to 'download drivers' and find the latest drivers and install them
#2425 [14:38] <blackout1471> okey
#2426 [14:38] <blackout1471> are you sure it is video driver?
#2427 [14:39] <mbentley> fairly
#2428 [14:39] <blackout1471> okey
#2429 [14:41] <blackout1471> okey here is a new driver :D
#2430 [14:41] <GigaClon> its weird I have both update 16 and 22
#2431 [14:41] <GigaClon> 16 is 64-bit
#2432 [14:42] <Jonez> Argh
#2433 [14:42] <blackout1471> can i also ask how can i make the motd in server to work ^^?
#2434 [14:42] <Jonez> !paid DarkJonez
#2435 [14:42] <mbentley> blackout1471: you can't in beta
#2436 [14:42] <mbentley> without mods
#2437 [14:42] <blackout1471> hmmm
#2438 [14:42] <blackout1471> okey ;D
#2439 [14:42] <blackout1471> why they remove it?
#2440 [14:42] <mbentley> GigaClon: you can always download a 64 bit upgrade...
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#2442 [14:46] <blackout1471> thanks for help guys i come back if it work and if it doesn't :D
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#2444 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> Happy Friday, D3M0N; welcome to #minecrafthelp! May we take your order?
#2445 [14:49] <D3M0N> ok guys, im trying to run minecraft beta on linux, i just did an aptitude search sun and nothing called sunjava came up
#2446 [14:50] <D3M0N> am i doing something wrong, and thanks ;)
#2447 [14:50] <lemon-rev> forget teh sun
#2448 [14:50] <lemon-rev> just type java
#2449 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> D3M0N: which distribution?
#2450 [14:50] <mbentley> D3M0N: sounds like you need to add some repositories
#2451 [14:50] <D3M0N> ubuntu
#2452 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> IIRC the packae is sun-java6-hre
#2453 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> er, jre
#2454 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> and it's in Multiverse
#2455 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> so be sure that repo is enabled.
#2456 [14:51] <mbentley> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20Ubuntu%20Software%20Repositories
#2457 [14:51] <D3M0N> apt-get install sun-java6-jre doesnt work either
#2458 [14:51] <D3M0N> lol
#2459 [14:51] <D3M0N> o.0 okm lemme lok
#2460 [14:52] <D3M0N> look
#2461 [14:53] <D3M0N> thats for a desktop ubuntu
#2462 [14:53] <mbentley> running server then?
#2463 [14:53] <D3M0N> yes
#2464 [14:53] <mbentley> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
#2465 [14:54] <D3M0N> ok, im in it
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#2467 [14:55] <D3M0N> that looks very complicating... lol
#2468 [14:55] <mbentley> not really...
#2469 [14:56] <mbentley> sorry, just need to find the right line
#2470 [14:56] <mbentley> i don't have an ubuntu machine handy...
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#2472 [14:56] <mbentley> one sec, one of my coworkers does
#2473 [14:56] <D3M0N> aweesome
#2474 [14:57] <mbentley> this ubuntu 10.10 ?
#2475 [14:58] <D3M0N> uuhhmm, i think 10.04, lemme check
#2476 [14:58] <D3M0N> Operating System: Ubuntu 10.04 64bit
#2477 [14:58] <D3M0N> shouldnt be too much a difference though
#2478 [14:59] <mbentley> http://pastebin.com/V7JaSpLT
#2479 [15:00] <mbentley> you should see some likes like those
#2480 [15:00] <mbentley> you are likely to see 'lucid main' at the end of them
#2481 [15:00] <mbentley> you need to add 'universe multiverse' to the end like the ones i linked to
#2482 [15:00] <D3M0N> i only have three though:
#2483 [15:01] <D3M0N> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid main restricted universe
#2484 [15:01] <D3M0N> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-updates main restricted universe
#2485 [15:01] <D3M0N> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security main restricted universe
#2486 [15:01] <mbentley> ok easy enough
#2487 [15:01] <mbentley> just add 'multiverse' to them
#2488 [15:01] <D3M0N> so it will look like: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid main restricted universe multiverse
#2489 [15:01] <mbentley> yup
#2490 [15:02] <D3M0N> ctrl X and save?
#2491 [15:02] <mbentley> yes
#2492 [15:02] <mbentley> then do an 'apt-get update' or 'aptitude update' (whichever you prefer)
#2493 [15:03] <mbentley> then you should be able to install java
#2494 [15:03] <D3M0N> apt-get install java-sun6-jre (correct?)
#2495 [15:03] <mbentley> 'apt-get install sun-java6-jre' i believe
#2496 [15:04] <D3M0N> aha, had it reveersed, lol
#2497 [15:04] <D3M0N> Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package. -- This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
#2498 [15:04] <D3M0N> is only available from another source -- E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate
#2499 [15:05] <D3M0N> :(
#2500 [15:05] <mbentley> you did an 'apt-get update', right?
#2501 [15:05] <D3M0N> yup
#2502 [15:05] <mbentley> do an 'aptitude search java6-jre'
#2503 [15:05] <Jonez> Agh
#2504 [15:06] <Jonez> My upgrade hasnt show up yet
#2505 [15:06] <D3M0N> nothing showed up...
#2506 [15:06] <Jonez> :p
#2507 [15:06] <mbentley> hmm wtf
#2508 [15:06] * D3M0N is sorry he is being a pain
#2508 [15:06] <mbentley> it's ok, it's just strange
#2509 [15:08] <mbentley> D3M0N: try this >> add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"
#2510 [15:08] <D3M0N> it went to a new line starting with: >
#2511 [15:09] <mbentley> don't use the >>
#2512 [15:09] <mbentley> add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"
#2513 [15:09] <D3M0N> i didnt use the >>
#2514 [15:09] <D3M0N> i started with apt-add.......
#2515 [15:09] <D3M0N> root@vps:~# add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner
#2516 [15:09] <D3M0N> >
#2517 [15:09] <D3M0N> thats what it did
#2518 [15:09] <mbentley> you need the last "
#2519 [15:09] <D3M0N> oh
#2520 [15:11] <D3M0N> E: Couldn't find package add-apt-repository:
#2521 [15:11] <D3M0N> no such commands add-apt-repository
#2522 [15:11] <mbentley> ok, just do it manually...
#2523 [15:12] <mbentley> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
#2524 [15:12] <D3M0N> so add deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner in that list?
#2525 [15:12] <D3M0N> multiverse at the end or no?
#2526 [15:12] <mbentley> yes, add it on a new line
#2527 [15:12] <mbentley> eh, not sure. try without at first
#2528 [15:13] <D3M0N> ok, already did apt-get update again, now to apt-get install sun-java6-jre right?
#2529 [15:13] <mbentley> yeah
#2530 [15:14] <mbentley> i'm installing ubuntu 10.04 in a vm now... heh
#2531 [15:14] <D3M0N> YAY, that one is installing some stuff ;)
#2532 [15:14] <mbentley> good :)
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#2535 [15:15] <D3M0N> ok, now it popped up with an aggreement thing.. i scrolled all the way down, how to get out of thhat? lol
#2536 [15:15] <mbentley> um, not sure. should have instructions somewhere
#2537 [15:16] <D3M0N> found it lol
#2538 [15:16] <D3M0N> ok, its installed
#2539 [15:16] <D3M0N> so now i have to run the java command listed on the mc website?
#2540 [15:16] <mbentley> test with 'java --version'
#2541 [15:16] <D3M0N> ok
#2542 [15:17] <D3M0N> it shows:
#2543 [15:17] <D3M0N> java version "1.6.0_22"
#2544 [15:17] <D3M0N> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)
#2545 [15:17] <D3M0N> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode)
#2546 [15:17] <mbentley> cool
#2547 [15:17] <D3M0N> ok, now what might i need to do? the command on the mc website to run it?
#2548 [15:18] <mbentley> yeah, have you downloaded the .jar (i'd suggest putting it in it's own directory)?
#2549 [15:18] <GigaClon> http://pastebin.com/SaNkBCGi
#2550 [15:18] <GigaClon> error
#2551 [15:18] <D3M0N> kk, fyi - it downloaded as: Minecraft.jar?v=3456324098548
#2552 [15:18] <mbentley> D3M0N: rename it
#2553 [15:18] <D3M0N> kk ;)
#2554 [15:19] <mbentley> GigaClon: latest java now... have you tried updating your video drivers from the nvidia site?
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#2556 [15:22] <Kealper> whoops..forgot to log out of ssh when i went away
#2557 [15:23] <D3M0N> sorry, i pinged out
#2558 [15:23] <D3M0N> back
#2559 [15:23] <D3M0N> lol
#2560 [15:25] <D3M0N> ok, one more thing, do u know the command to open an new screen? lol
#2561 [15:25] <mbentley> you mean switch to a 2nd terminal?
#2562 [15:26] <D3M0N> im guessing... its where i can log out of putty and keep a server window logged on
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#2564 [15:26] <mbentley> D3M0N: you are thinking of the program 'screen'
#2565 [15:26] <D3M0N> aka putting a program like minecraft as a backround process
#2566 [15:26] <GigaClon> lol deleted my whole .minecraft folder and it worked
#2567 [15:26] <D3M0N> mbentley yes
#2568 [15:26] <mbentley> GigaClon: cool :)
#2569 [15:26] <D3M0N> yes, whats the command to start a new screen?
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#2571 [15:26] <xales> D3M0N: if you are running screen you can open a new window with ^C-a c
#2572 [15:26] <mbentley> D3M0N: screen
#2573 [15:26] <Kealper> screen :P
#2574 [15:26] <mbentley> :)
#2575 [15:27] <D3M0N> screen screenname
#2576 [15:27] <D3M0N> oi, fail
#2577 [15:27] <xales> ^a-c rather
#2578 [15:28] <mbentley> D3M0N: i have a cheat sheet @ http://www.mbentley.net/temp/screen_commands.txt
#2579 [15:28] <mbentley> :D
#2580 [15:28] <Kealper> ^a ? ftw
#2581 [15:28] <Kealper> anywho....be back in a bit, restarting computer
#2582 [15:29] <D3M0N> o.0 ctrl-A C
#2583 [15:30] <D3M0N> so command line is: screen -a screenname ?
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#2585 [15:31] <mbentley> screen -S <name>
#2586 [15:32] <mbentley> that will start and name a screen session
#2587 [15:32] <D3M0N> ah, ok
#2588 [15:36] <D3M0N> thanks for all the help guys!
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#2591 [15:37] <blackout1471> okey it's me again with the blue screen :D
#2592 [15:37] <blackout1471> can anyone plz try to join my server?
#2593 [15:37] <mbentley> sure
#2594 [15:37] <blackout1471> thanks
#2595 [15:38] <blackout1471> 188.179.79.107:25565
#2596 [15:39] <xales> mbentley: do you know any easy way out of the stupid "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
#2597 [15:39] <xales> other than moving /boot
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#2599 [15:39] <dopeghoti> xales: switch from LILO to RUB?
#2600 [15:39] <mbentley> blackout1471: timed out
#2601 [15:39] <mbentley> hmm
#2602 [15:39] <xales> dopeghoti: thats a GRUB error
#2603 [15:39] <dopeghoti> update your BIOS? :)
#2604 [15:40] <xales> last time I did that I had to send motherboard off for repair (a capacitor exploded) and couldn't use my gaming computer for 3 months
#2605 [15:40] <xales> .__.
#2606 [15:40] <mbentley> i've never seen that grub error before, mysself
#2607 [15:40] <mbentley> -s
#2608 [15:42] <xales> its because stage1 needs to be accesible by the BIOS
#2609 [15:42] <xales> and aparrantly the BIOS can't read past my 1.5TB NTFS partition
#2610 [15:43] <mbentley> oh wow... well i knew there was a limit but i think past 1.5 tb might be beyond that... lol
#2611 [15:43] <xales> limit is 8gb on most bioses
#2612 [15:44] <xales> its odd though, because I had grub working off that same partition before
#2613 [15:44] <mbentley> huh...
#2614 [15:44] <xales> it just refuses to install now
#2615 [15:44] <mbentley> you mean you get that when trying to install grub?
#2616 [15:45] <i81u812> hey
#2617 [15:45] <i81u812> can you plant reeds?
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#2620 [15:46] <mbentley> hmm, i am not sure
#2621 [15:46] <blackout1471> it doesn't work hmmm...
#2622 [15:46] <i81u812> that would be cool....
#2623 [15:46] <i81u812> what dosent?
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#2625 [15:46] <i81u812> planting reed?
#2626 [15:46] <mbentley> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Reeds
#2627 [15:46] <mbentley> check there?
#2628 [15:47] <mib_a5upo0> my friend made a sever, and when i try to connect, it wont work, then it tells me that the server timed out. what r the possible problems and solutions?
#2629 [15:47] <xales> mbentley: I got it while doing "root (hd1, 3)"
#2630 [15:47] <xales> mib_a5upo0: port forwarding
#2631 [15:47] <mib_a5upo0> port forwarding?
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#2633 [15:47] <xales> mbentley: I tried manually installing and using Arch's automated-ish install for grub
#2634 [15:47] <xales> mib_a5upo0: portforward.com
#2635 [15:47] <mib_a5upo0> ok tkz
#2636 [15:47] <i81u812> port fowarding is easy on a router just follow the instructions
#2637 [15:48] <xales> Kealpy, welcome back
#2638 [15:48] <xales> to the world of people-with-attached-screen-sessions
#2639 [15:48] <blackout1471> when someone connect to my server it go blue screen and my computer restart with a fatal error can anybody help me and i have installed the newest graphic driver :D
#2640 [15:48] <Kealper> after sitting through that chkdsk...i've realized that i need to clean my hdd lol
#2641 [15:48] <xales> blackout1471: what is the error
#2642 [15:49] <blackout1471> sec finding it
#2643 [15:49] <xales> if it is more than 1 line long, put it on pastebin.com
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#2645 [15:49] <mbentley> blackout1471: http://img222.imageshack.us/f/crashxy.jpg/
#2646 [15:49] <i81u812> what are you on xales a tablet?
#2647 [15:50] <xales> i81u812: umm...no?
#2648 [15:50] <Kealper> my new server should be here tonight :O
#2649 [15:50] <i81u812> phone...
#2650 [15:50] <mbentley> whoo new server!
#2651 [15:50] <mbentley> whatcha gettin?
#2652 [15:50] <xales> i81u812: why do you ask?
#2653 [15:50] <i81u812> xales is away: Busy - Screen Detached - Leave a message
#2654 [15:50] <Kealper> uhh...iirc 2.8ghz athlon x2 with 4 gigs of ddr2 800
#2655 [15:51] <i81u812> and you also made a comment of the same
#2656 [15:51] <xales> oh
#2657 [15:51] <xales> screen as in GNU screen
#2658 [15:51] <i81u812> oh
#2659 [15:51] <xales> lol
#2660 [15:51] <blackout1471> link to crash repport http://img529.imageshack.us/i/crashn.jpg/
#2661 [15:51] <Kealper> and i've got a 300 gig sata hdd and a 120 gig ide backup drive that will be going in it
#2662 [15:51] <xales> why did you whois me?
#2663 [15:51] <i81u812> yeah yeah lol
#2664 [15:51] <blackout1471> tahnks mbently
#2665 [15:51] <mbentley> np
#2666 [15:51] <i81u812> because you said that and I wanted to see if it was a mobile net
#2667 [15:52] <blackout1471> but i still got the problem :S
#2668 [15:52] <xales> blackout1471: you need to update your NIC drivers
#2669 [15:52] <blackout1471> nic?
#2670 [15:52] <xales> network interface card
#2671 [15:52] <mbentley> network interface card
#2672 [15:52] <xales> I win
#2673 [15:52] <i81u812> maybe you had a tab and I wanted to know if you could run minecraft off its desktop and how pimp it was
#2674 [15:52] <blackout1471> arhhh
#2675 [15:52] <mbentley> xales = winrar
#2676 [15:52] <blackout1471> lol...
#2677 [15:52] <blackout1471> i win :S
#2678 [15:52] <xales> xales > winrar
#2679 [15:52] <blackout1471> where can i do that?
#2680 [15:52] <xales> xales = 7zip
#2681 [15:52] <mbentley> lol
#2682 [15:52] <xales> blackout1471: depends on your computer
#2683 [15:53] <blackout1471> okey :D
#2684 [15:53] <xales> is it store-bought or custom build
#2685 [15:53] <blackout1471> store
#2686 [15:53] <xales> model number?
#2687 [15:53] <blackout1471> and also some custom
#2688 [15:53] <mib_a5upo0> is there a way to port forward w/o paying for anything?
#2689 [15:53] <blackout1471> model number. sry but where can i find that?
#2690 [15:53] <mbentley> mib_a5upo0: yes
#2691 [15:53] <i81u812> you would have to make custom script for touch screen minecraft though.. I did see the thing about kinect though interesting to say the least
#2692 [15:53] <mbentley> port forwarding doesn't cost money
#2693 [15:53] <mbentley> unless you don't have a router and need to pay for one... lol
#2694 [15:54] <mib_a5upo0> its asking me to buy some sort of software called....
#2695 [15:54] <blackout1471> ???
#2696 [15:54] <mib_a5upo0> PFconfig
#2697 [15:54] <mbentley> mib_a5upo0: don't buy their software
#2698 [15:54] <xales> mib_a5upo0: you don't need to buy it
#2699 [15:54] <blackout1471> uhh my computer model
#2700 [15:54] <xales> learn to ignore ads
#2701 [15:54] <xales> OH KEALPER
#2702 [15:54] <i81u812> ...
#2703 [15:54] <blackout1471> Acer Aspire m1201
#2704 [15:54] <xales> I REMEMBER WHY I WANTED YOU
#2705 [15:54] <i81u812> lol
#2706 [15:54] <Kealper> o.o
#2707 [15:55] <blackout1471> but i put a new graphic card and processor in :D
#2708 [15:55] <xales> Kealper: dumbbot doesn't work
#2709 [15:55] <xales> !help
#2710 [15:55] <xales> !server
#2711 [15:55] <Kealper> !status
#2712 [15:55] <Kealper> DOH
#2713 [15:55] * mbentley kicks AuBot in the face
#2713 [15:55] <Kealper> forgot to put that module in the startup list
#2714 [15:55] <Kealper> !load mod_mchelp
#2715 [15:56] <Kealper> ok, added
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#2717 [15:57] <xales> !help
#2718 [15:57] <xales> kealpy, it doesn't work
#2719 [15:57] <mbentley> !check home.mbentley.net
#2720 [15:57] <xales> !server
#2721 [15:58] <xales> !enable
#2722 [15:58] <soy1perro> hi
#2723 [15:58] <xales> hello
#2724 [15:58] <mib_a5upo0> haha it said skip add on the top, wow im slow today, tkz guys
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#2726 [15:58] <Kealper> hmm....
#2727 [15:58] <KillSpammer> Hai
#2728 [15:58] <Kealper> !server
#2729 [15:58] <KillSpammer> Hmm...
#2730 [15:58] <Kealper> hmmmmmmmmmmm......
#2731 [15:58] <KillSpammer> .................hmm
#2732 [15:58] <KillSpammer> h....m....m
#2733 [15:58] <Kealper> xales: i think my bot has gone sentient and decided not to put up with your crap anymore, there is nothing i can do
#2734 [15:59] <KillSpammer> OR is your bot...
#2735 [15:59] <KillSpammer> Alive?!
#2736 [15:59] <xales> ._.
#2737 [15:59] <xales> !server
#2738 [15:59] <xales> hehe
#2739 [15:59] * Fluuux [Fluuux@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2740 [15:59] <xales> oh kealper, what is the command for the server install guide thing
#2741 [15:59] <xales> !help
#2742 [15:59] <KillSpammer> Ok bye
#2743 [15:59] <Fluuux> hey guys
#2744 [15:59] <KillSpammer> Gtg
#2745 [15:59] <xales> hello Fluuux
#2746 [16:00] <Fluuux> hey :D, i remember you
#2747 [16:00] <Fluuux> hehehe
#2748 [16:00] <Fluuux> :D
#2749 [16:00] <Fluuux> hey xales
#2750 [16:00] <Kealper> o.o
#2751 [16:00] <Fluuux> do you have a mc server?
#2752 [16:00] <Fluuux> or anyone in here?
#2753 [16:00] <xales> not me, but some people do
#2754 [16:00] * Kealper stays silent
#2754 [16:00] <Fluuux> oh ok i need some advise and some help
#2755 [16:00] <Fluuux> hehehe
#2756 [16:00] <xales> with?
#2757 [16:01] <Fluuux> well
#2758 [16:01] <Fluuux> getting mods into my server
#2759 [16:01] <Fluuux> and stuff
#2760 [16:01] <Kealper> *ahem*
#2761 [16:01] <Fluuux> earlier greyvulpine helped me setup my server :D
#2762 [16:01] <Kealper> mods are out of the scope of this channel :/
#2763 [16:02] <Fluuux> what?
#2764 [16:02] <mbentley> mods aren't supported here
#2765 [16:02] <Fluuux> plugins?
#2766 [16:02] <Kealper> any third party software related to minecraft
#2767 [16:02] <mbentley> mods/plugins same thing
#2768 [16:02] <xales> we treat modding as "if you need help, you shouldn't be doing it"
#2769 [16:02] <Fluuux> i don't see a rule that says you guys can't talk about it here?
#2770 [16:02] <Fluuux> oh
#2771 [16:02] <Kealper> it's not that we don't condone them, we just don't give support for them
#2772 [16:02] <xales> its our policy
#2773 [16:02] <Fluuux> .......
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#2775 [16:03] <Fluuux> i see
#2776 [16:03] <Pain> Fuu
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#2778 [16:03] <Fluuux> ok thanks guys :D
#2779 [16:03] <mbentley> WAY too much work to try to support all of them
#2780 [16:03] <Fluuux> sorry
#2781 [16:03] <Fluuux> hahha
#2782 [16:03] <xales> you can ask in #hey0
#2783 [16:03] <xales> if its related to hmod
#2784 [16:03] <Fluuux> in this connestion?
#2785 [16:03] <Fluuux> connection?
#2786 [16:04] <xales> yes
#2787 [16:04] <Fluuux> ok cool i got it
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#2789 [16:05] <soy1perro> im looking for a modder, Zaneris. where should i look?
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#2791 [16:05] <Pain> Fuu
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#2793 [16:05] <Kealper> o.o
#2794 [16:05] <xales> soy1perro: I don't know him and he isn't here
#2795 [16:05] <Kealper> autojoin ftw? lol
#2796 [16:05] <tiba666> hey klealper :D
#2797 [16:05] <Kealper> ello
#2798 [16:05] <tiba666> now i ask you like yester day :P
#2799 [16:06] <soy1perro> thank you xales. any mod-related channel?
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#2801 [16:06] <Jonez> Fuu
#2802 [16:06] <xales> soy1perro: #risucraft and #hey0
#2803 [16:06] * Kealper does not even remember what he had to eat yesterday
#2803 [16:06] <Jonez> My Upgrade hasnt come yet :I
#2804 [16:06] <Kealper> Jonez: upgrade?
#2805 [16:06] <soy1perro> ^^ nice
#2806 [16:06] <soy1perro> thanks again
#2807 [16:06] <tiba666> kealper hey0 plz :P lol can find they irc lol im noob :D
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#2809 [16:07] <Kealper> type /join #hey0
#2810 [16:07] <tiba666> nice ty
#2811 [16:07] <Jonez> Yea
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#2813 [16:07] <Jonez> The Minecraft
#2814 [16:07] <Jonez> Upgrade for my account
#2815 [16:08] <Kealper> oh, you bought it and it does not say premium user yet?
#2816 [16:08] <Jonez> IT says Not premium user
#2817 [16:08] <Kealper> how long ago did you buy it?
#2818 [16:08] <mbentley> he paid with visa and it is taking forever
#2819 [16:08] <Jonez> + I paid with visa
#2820 [16:08] <Jonez> 10 hours fone
#2821 [16:08] <Jonez> 10 hours fone
#2822 [16:08] <Jonez> Gone*
#2823 [16:08] <Jonez> Nvm, because I told this before
#2824 [16:08] <Jonez> :P
#2825 [16:08] <Kealper> might just be slow processing...
#2826 [16:08] <Jonez> Im just cursing the longiness.
#2827 [16:09] <xales> check your statement
#2828 [16:09] <xales> that the charge went through
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#2830 [16:09] <Jonez> How?
#2831 [16:09] <Jonez> There readed after the purchase
#2832 [16:09] <mbentley> your credit card issuer's site
#2833 [16:10] <Jonez> Purchase Complete!
#2834 [16:10] <Jonez> And then some odd text
#2835 [16:10] <Jonez> And Note: the Servers are overloaded right now
#2836 [16:10] <Jonez> That
#2837 [16:10] <mbentley> he is saying check your online credit card statement
#2838 [16:10] <Jonez> Oh.
#2839 [16:11] <Jonez> You mean I have to check are the money gone from the credit card?
#2840 [16:11] <Jonez> the 14,95
#2841 [16:12] <mbentley> yes, does the charge appear on your credit card
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#2843 [16:15] <Jonez> There reads
#2844 [16:15] <Jonez> Hi DarkJonez
#2845 [16:15] <Jonez> Thank you for purchasing the Minecraft Gift coder
#2846 [16:15] <Jonez> I though I bought the game for myself
#2847 [16:15] <Jonez> Wtf?!?!?!?!?!
#2848 [16:15] <xales> you bought a gift code then
#2849 [16:15] <Jonez> In my email
#2850 [16:15] <Jonez> NOO
#2851 [16:15] <xales> the email will have a gift code
#2852 [16:15] <Jonez> I want play it myself
#2853 [16:15] <xales> you can use it on your own account
#2854 [16:15] <mbentley> just redeem the code on the mineecraft site
#2855 [16:16] <Jonez> Whew
#2856 [16:16] <xales> redeem it on your account
#2857 [16:16] <Jonez> Whew
#2858 [16:16] <mbentley> heh
#2859 [16:16] <Jonez> Okay
#2860 [16:16] <Jonez> Whew
#2861 [16:16] <Jonez> I though I messed it up
#2862 [16:16] <lemon-rev> catagory panicee
#2863 [16:16] <aetherian> help
#2864 [16:17] <lemon-rev> ?
#2865 [16:17] <aetherian> sos
#2866 [16:17] <aetherian> on minecraft.net
#2867 [16:17] <aetherian> uh
#2868 [16:17] <Jonez> Where I redeem the code
#2869 [16:17] <aetherian> apparently I keep getting my password wrong, but I know I'm doing it right
#2870 [16:17] <aetherian> and I put in my username
#2871 [16:17] <aetherian> so as in order to get it to send an email
#2872 [16:17] <Jonez> in minecraft.net?
#2873 [16:18] <aetherian> I'm not getting an email
#2874 [16:18] <aetherian> ;_;
#2875 [16:18] <Jonez> where I redeem the code
#2876 [16:18] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#2877 [16:18] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/4dQRT.png <-- totally used to do that
#2878 [16:19] <aetherian> what do I do?
#2879 [16:19] <aetherian> send him an email?
#2880 [16:19] <aetherian> at the support@thing
#2881 [16:19] <mbentley> aetherian: check your spam folder?
#2882 [16:20] <xales> Kealper: I did that too >.>
#2883 [16:20] <Jonez> Yes!!!!!!½!!!'1
#2884 [16:20] <Jonez> 1'1
#2885 [16:20] <Jonez> 1'1
#2886 [16:20] <Jonez> 1
#2887 [16:20] <Jonez> I passed
#2888 [16:20] <aetherian> not there
#2889 [16:20] <Jonez> YEEEEEEEEeee
#2890 [16:20] <Jonez> Got the code
#2891 [16:20] <Jonez> It passed
#2892 [16:20] <Jonez> Now I get play minecraft
#2893 [16:20] <Jonez> lol I didnt check email
#2894 [16:21] <Jonez> Thanks guys
#2895 [16:21] <aetherian> should I just send the support thing an email?
#2896 [16:21] <aetherian> support@mojang.com or wtv?
#2897 [16:21] <xales> what do you need support for
#2898 [16:22] <aetherian> ............
#2899 [16:22] <aetherian> scroll. up.
#2900 [16:22] <mbentley> so you did the recover your password thing and didn't get an email...
#2901 [16:22] <mbentley> 16:19 <+mbentley> aetherian: check your spam folder?
#2902 [16:23] <aetherian> <aetherian> not there
#2903 [16:23] <aetherian> jeez
#2904 [16:23] <aetherian> scroll up
#2905 [16:23] <aetherian> >.>
#2906 [16:23] <nipper> Anyone know where to pick up a dedicated box at for a reasonable price?
#2907 [16:24] <xales> nipper: softlayer is the best dedicated host, a tiny bit more expensive
#2908 [16:24] <xales> but you get what you pay for
#2909 [16:24] <aetherian> well, I'll send an email.
#2910 [16:24] <aetherian> thanks for the... help?
#2911 [16:24] <nipper> It's all about what i get in donations. right now running on a vps with 2gig ram but have a far amout in donations looking to upgrade next month.
#2912 [16:24] <aetherian> ooh
#2913 [16:24] <aetherian> yay
#2914 [16:25] <xales> nipper: you can get a great machine for $130/month and upgrade the ram for 8gb and it would be around $150/month
#2915 [16:25] <nipper> Bit much.
#2916 [16:26] <xales> thats average price
#2917 [16:26] <xales> for 8gb
#2918 [16:26] <xales> your not going to get a dedicated with any more capacity than the VPS for less than $110/month
#2919 [16:26] <xales> unless you go with a crappy host
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#2921 [16:29] <Kealper> Iguana? O.o
#2922 [16:29] <Kealper> it lives!
#2923 [16:30] <Iguana> Indeed
#2924 [16:32] <Kealper> woh....just busted out some Blondie on my guitar...i think it's time to put that up for the day ._.
#2925 [16:35] <Coll> what
#2926 [16:35] <xales> ^
#2927 [16:36] <Kealper> horrible example video but it does demonstrate what i just caught myself playing
#2928 [16:36] <Kealper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab_IE_eXyTQ
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#2932 [16:51] <blackout1471> #help
#2933 [16:51] <blackout1471> #check 188.179.79.107:25565
#2934 [16:51] <Jonez> Hey, even if I ordered a gift code now
#2935 [16:52] <Jonez> Can I still load this to other computers when I log in?
#2936 [16:52] <xales> try !check
#2937 [16:52] <xales> ._.
#2938 [16:52] <blackout1471> can anyone try to connect my mc server?
#2939 [16:52] <xales> Jonez: of course
#2940 [16:52] <Jonez> Great
#2941 [16:52] <Jonez> Thx
#2942 [16:52] <xales> !check 188.179.79.107
#2943 [16:52] <blackout1471> !check 188.179.79.107:25565
#2944 [16:53] <Diablothein> Sup peoples
#2945 [16:53] <blackout1471> ? are you in?
#2946 [16:53] * zashbot [zashbot@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2947 [16:53] <zashbot> so uh, wats the command to test servers?
#2948 [16:54] <Xerati> !check 98.203.255.46
#2949 [16:54] <zashbot> thanks
#2950 [16:54] <blackout1471> !check 188.179.79.107
#2951 [16:54] <i81u812> there are still pumpkins in the game right..
#2952 [16:54] <zashbot> !check 67.180.144.76
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#2954 [16:54] <zashbot> D:
#2955 [16:55] <blackout1471> lol can someone try to connect it because i think it every time someone with a ip do it :D
#2956 [16:55] <i81u812> ive been playing this map for more then a week and a half and cant find any on this map
#2957 [16:55] <blackout1471> 188.179.79.107:25565
#2958 [16:55] <Xerati> yes
#2959 [16:55] <Xerati> there are still pumpkins
#2960 [16:55] <i81u812> ok
#2961 [16:55] <i81u812> then wtf
#2962 [16:55] <i81u812> no cacti or pumpkins
#2963 [16:55] <i81u812> yet...
#2964 [16:55] <Kealper> wait what?
#2965 [16:55] <Xerati> cacti in sand, pumpkins are rare
#2966 [16:55] <Xerati> pumpkins are very rare
#2967 [16:55] <Kealper> !check 188.179.79.107
#2968 [16:55] <Xerati> more rare than diamonds
#2969 [16:56] <Xerati> lol
#2970 [16:56] <Kealper> blackout1471: did you stop the server?
#2971 [16:56] <i81u812> yeah im searching my map is only 15mb right yet
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#2973 [16:56] <zashbot> yeah failed to login
#2974 [16:56] <Kealper> zashbot: failed to log in?
#2975 [16:56] <Jonez> I found a Pumpkin block
#2976 [16:56] <Jonez> Wtf is that >_<
#2977 [16:56] <Kealper> in the server console it says that?
#2978 [16:57] <Jonez> Why I found a Pumpkin block o_o
#2979 [16:57] <Kealper> Jonez: put a pumpkin over a torch in the crafting window :P
#2980 [16:57] <zashbot> !check 67.180.114.76
#2981 [16:57] <zashbot> dicks
#2982 [16:57] <xales> Jonez: minecraftwiki.net
#2983 [16:57] <xales> ._.
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#2985 [16:57] <Kealper> zashbot: that usually means your port forwarding is wrong
#2986 [16:58] <Diablothein> Kealpybby! :3
#2987 [16:58] * Kealper sighs
#2987 [16:58] <Diablothein> ai wuw woo!
#2988 [16:59] <zashbot> im trying to fix it now
#2989 [16:59] <zashbot> !check 67.180.114.76
#2990 [16:59] <zashbot> FUCK YES
#2991 [16:59] <Diablothein> Watch your fucking mouth! There are kids in here :D
#2992 [17:00] * Kealper looks around
#2992 [17:00] * Kealper sees none
#2992 [17:00] * Diablothein points to xales
#2992 [17:00] <zashbot> "Watch your fucking mouth!" lol
#2993 [17:00] * xales breaks Diablothein's finger
#2993 [17:01] <Diablothein> Kinky.
#2994 [17:01] <Kealper> afaik most of the regulars in here are like 20-30 lol
#2995 [17:01] <lemon-rev> oh, must i leave cause im a older lol
#2996 [17:02] <Kealper> you're older than 30?
#2997 [17:02] <lemon-rev> yup
#2998 [17:02] <Kealper> and besides, i said most :P
#2999 [17:02] <lemon-rev> hahahhahahaha
#3000 [17:02] <Diablothein> Reverend, know how you feel, I'm 17...
#3001 [17:02] <lemon-rev> yup
#3002 [17:02] <Kealper> youngin
#3003 [17:02] <lemon-rev> wow
#3004 [17:02] <lemon-rev> yea real youngie
#3005 [17:02] <lemon-rev> im like 34
#3006 [17:02] <lemon-rev> im like old fart
#3007 [17:02] <Jonez> Lol, I am 12.
#3008 [17:02] <Jonez> Beat that.
#3009 [17:03] <lemon-rev> cant :P
#3010 [17:03] <Kealper> i need to get my brother in here, he'd probably take the over-the-hill cake
#3011 [17:03] <Xerati> i'm 52 :/
#3012 [17:03] <Jonez> And not even from england, Im from Finland.
#3013 [17:03] <zashbot> im -18
#3014 [17:03] <Kealper> Xerati: really?
#3015 [17:03] <Xerati> hell no
#3016 [17:03] <Jonez> Still I can speak english.
#3017 [17:03] <Xerati> lol
#3018 [17:03] <Kealper> oh lol
#3019 [17:03] <lemon-rev> acually i have done that like over 3 times now jonez lol
#3020 [17:03] <Jonez> fu
#3021 [17:03] <Jonez> D:
#3022 [17:03] <lemon-rev> lol
#3023 [17:03] <lemon-rev> its ok
#3024 [17:03] <Xerati> now who's a girl
#3025 [17:03] <Kealper> Jonez: most northern europeans speak better english than native english speakers :?
#3026 [17:03] <Xerati> ;)
#3027 [17:03] <Kealper> :/*
#3028 [17:04] <Jonez> Yea but Finlands headlaungage is Finnish
#3029 [17:04] <Jonez> Now that's assy
#3030 [17:04] <peru__> more understandable english
#3031 [17:04] * Kealper is a guy
#3031 [17:04] <Jonez> Or whatever
#3032 [17:04] <Kealper> i think the enture populous here is male
#3033 [17:05] <Kealper> entire*
#3034 [17:05] <Xerati> i'm a girl :/
#3035 [17:05] <Kealper> pics or it didn't happen? lol
#3036 [17:05] <CHansen> Hi, I'm CHansen.
#3037 [17:05] <Xerati> ........
#3038 [17:05] <CHansen> From DLine NBC
#3039 [17:05] <CHansen> Why don't you have a seat over there.
#3040 [17:05] <Xerati> so what are you doing here?
#3041 [17:05] <Kealper> wait, were you serious? lol
#3042 [17:05] <Xerati> nope
#3043 [17:05] <Xerati> :)
#3044 [17:05] <Xerati> XD
#3045 [17:06] <Kealper> infidel!!!
#3046 [17:06] <Kealper> lol
#3047 [17:06] <Xerati> hardly
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#3051 [17:25] * DopeGhoti looks up
#3051 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> mmm, lemonade
#3052 [17:25] <lemon-rev> AAAHHHHHHH !!!! < dopeghoti drinking me :( lol
#3053 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> I said 'lemonade', not 'lemon of an unknown revision'
#3054 [17:26] <lemon-rev> hahahaah
#3055 [17:26] <lemon-rev> well its not like i was being serious
#3056 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> Yeah, it's too late to backpedal now, tasty.
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#3058 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> </creepy>
#3059 [17:27] <lemon-rev> hahahahahha
#3060 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> Cordial greetings and salutations, Tonux. How may #minecrafthelp assist you?
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#3067 [17:54] <blackout1471> !check 188.179.79.107
#3068 [17:54] <blackout1471> can anybody plz try to connect here ?
#3069 [17:54] <blackout1471> 188.179.79.107:25565
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#3071 [17:55] <blackout1471> anybody?
#3072 [17:55] <blackout1471> 188.179.79.107:25565
#3073 [17:57] <lemon-rev> whats up
#3074 [17:57] <lemon-rev> trying
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#3076 [17:58] <lemon-rev> i got connection timed out if i use the port at the end
#3077 [17:59] <lemon-rev> nope im just getting timed ot
#3078 [17:59] <lemon-rev> out*
#3079 [17:59] <aetherian> ugh
#3080 [17:59] <aetherian> this salsa is bland
#3081 [17:59] <lemon-rev> then chuck it out
#3082 [18:00] <aetherian> nnah
#3083 [18:00] <aetherian> that'd be wasteful
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#3085 [18:01] <lemon-rev> its already a waste with no taste lol
#3086 [18:02] <aetherian> ......
#3087 [18:02] <aetherian> it has taste
#3088 [18:02] <aetherian> it just has no salt added
#3089 [18:02] <aetherian> so it's sorta bland
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#3091 [18:06] <clone1018> So
#3092 [18:06] <clone1018> I might just play WoW again :|
#3093 [18:06] <ffrogman> I built a portal in the real world (my first one in this save) and I went into the Nether and back out and ended up at some portal that I never built. can anyone explain why?
#3094 [18:06] <Kealper> o.o
#3095 [18:06] <clone1018> ...help....me....
#3096 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: so.. add salt?
#3097 [18:06] <Kealper> ffrogman: random bug
#3098 [18:07] <Kealper> occasionally happens :/
#3099 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> ffrogman: unless the portal in the real world is in the _exact_ place corresponding with the one from the Nether, that will happen
#3100 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> it's not random
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#3102 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> if you built a portal every meter in the Nether, you'd have one exactly every eight meters on the regular world
#3103 [18:07] <ffrogman> well I had it working yesterday
#3104 [18:07] <ffrogman> and i went in it a few times
#3105 [18:07] <Kealper> trying to give most basic explanation since i am typing with 1 hand atm
#3106 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> any that you build between those exact points get associated with one or the other
#3107 [18:08] <Kealper> super sow typing ftl.....lol
#3108 [18:08] <Kealper> slow*
#3109 [18:08] <ffrogman> but the random portal is really far away
#3110 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: you have a magic @, you should strive for accuracy when you're dumbening things down :)
#3111 [18:08] <ffrogman> at least 50 blocks
#3112 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> are you talking vertically, or horizontally?
#3113 [18:08] <Kealper> that would take thought though, and mt mind is on this pizza :P
#3114 [18:09] <ffrogman> I could measure it but I think it's about 5/10 vertically down 50 east and 20 south
#3115 [18:10] <Kealper> ok that slice is done....
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#3117 [18:15] <aetherian> dopehoti: too much work
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#3119 [18:16] * aetherian is away: francais? you mean frenchy? (school)
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#3121 [18:20] <ffrogman> do you guys think that the random portal is the one correctly linked to The single Nether one?
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#3123 [18:30] <ffrogman> ok I dug a little bit in The Nether and it's fixed now
#3124 [18:33] <nipper> Think a Xeon 3050 / E6500 Dual Core 4gig is good for a dedi
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#3126 [18:36] <Xerati> moar ram
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#3128 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> Cordial greetings and salutations, InD1g0; how may #minecrafthelp assist you?
#3129 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> (other than issuing a new ration of vowels, of which you appear to have run out)
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#3131 [18:42] <mbentley> lol your greetings just keep getting better DopeGhoti
#3132 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: I aim to please.
#3133 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> You aim too, please. :)
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#3135 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> And lo, have the clouds parted, and shineth the sun verily brighter, for gerzel hath arrived! What assistance can we render you, gerzel?
#3136 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> (mbentley: as best I can tell, everyone I greet doesn't have a port forwarding question. Maybe I'm onto somehting with this.)
#3137 [18:46] <mbentley> please keep greeting people then
#3138 [18:46] <mbentley> :D
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#3140 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> Well paint me green and call me Gumby- it's Iguana! What can #minecrafthelp do for you today?
#3141 [18:47] <clone1018> lol
#3142 [18:47] <Iguana> Uh.
#3143 [18:47] <clone1018> Are these automatic?
#3144 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> Not in the least.
#3145 [18:48] <Iguana> Nothing...I'm doing fine.
#3146 [18:48] <Iguana> Thanks for asking though?
#3147 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> Iguana: anytime.
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#3150 [18:50] <CrazySpai> Fine DopeGhoti, don't give me some twistly and semi-gay intro
#3151 [18:50] <clone1018> lolol
#3152 [18:50] <clone1018> lolololollolol
#3153 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> CrazySpai: I _am_ at work. And I fail to see how any of my greetings shed any light on my sexual proclivities, implied or otherwise- neither of which are relevant to this channel.
#3154 [18:52] <Kealper> wha-
#3155 [18:52] <Kealper> lol
#3156 [18:53] <CrazySpai> <DopeGhoti> Well paint me green and call me Gumby- it's Iguana! What can #minecrafthelp do for you today?
#3157 [18:53] <clone1018> I think he could possibly be kidding
#3158 [18:53] <CrazySpai> clone1018 is indeed correct.
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#3160 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> even if I were into cosmetic skin pigmentation, that would have no bearing on whether or not I were homosexual.
#3161 [18:55] <CrazySpai> DopeGhoti: You are the coolest guy on the internet. Can I get you pub key?
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#3163 [18:56] <Nirdian> Does anyone know how I can make a LAN Beta server?
#3164 [18:56] <CrazySpai> Yes Nirdian
#3165 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> CrazySpai: sorry, no; I'd just as soon not hand that out to random people on IRC that use 'gay' as a pejorative.
#3166 [18:56] <CrazySpai> Simply turn off online-mode in server.properties and then have your LAN mates connect to your local IP.
#3167 [18:57] <CrazySpai> You can get your local IP by opening up CMD (Windows) or terminal (*nix)
#3168 [18:57] <CrazySpai> In CMD you would type ipconfig and look for your local IP
#3169 [18:57] <CrazySpai> In *nix you'd type ifconfig and look for your local IP
#3170 [18:58] <Nirdian> Waitwaitwaitwait... Server properties?
#3171 [18:58] <CrazySpai> For... your beta server...
#3172 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> !mcfaq
#3173 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> !serverfaq
#3174 [18:58] <Nirdian> I couldn't even find software for it...
#3175 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> !server
#3176 [18:58] <CrazySpai> Lol :3 That looks like server f-a-g
#3177 [18:58] * DopeGhoti points up
#3177 [18:58] <CrazySpai> faq=fag
#3178 [18:58] <CrazySpai> :3
#3179 [18:59] <Nirdian> Isn't that just the Alpha server?
#3180 [18:59] <CrazySpai> Alpha is now beta.
#3181 [18:59] <Kealper> they really need to change that.....lol
#3182 [18:59] <Nirdian> So the README is wrong then... Huh.
#3183 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> that's the _current_ server, which has been Beta for some time now
#3184 [19:00] <Nirdian> Hmm...
#3185 [19:00] <Nirdian> Ok, I can work with that.
#3186 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> CrazySpai: I would recommend you not continue to use slurs in this channel. While I may not have a magic @; this is a somewhat official support channel.
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#3188 [19:04] <Kealper> rawr?
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#3190 [19:05] <Fluuux> hello?
#3191 [19:06] <Kealper> hello
#3192 [19:06] <Fluuux> hye kealper
#3193 [19:06] <Fluuux> does someone in here have a server?
#3194 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> Probably
#3195 [19:06] <Fluuux> well i was looking for one
#3196 [19:06] <Fluuux> or am looking for one
#3197 [19:06] <Kealper> i have one but it's private
#3198 [19:07] <Fluuux> k
#3199 [19:07] <Fluuux> do yuo have mods on it
#3200 [19:07] <Nirdian> Big help. xD
#3201 [19:07] <Fluuux> cause i know you guys don't support mods
#3202 [19:07] <Fluuux> onhere
#3203 [19:07] <Fluuux> so i want to private message someone that does
#3204 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> Fluuux: there are plenty of open servers mentioned with moderate frequency on the fora
#3205 [19:07] <Fluuux> so he or she can help me
#3206 [19:07] <Fluuux> what?
#3207 [19:08] <Nirdian> Or just make your own.
#3208 [19:08] <Fluuux> i made one already
#3209 [19:08] <Nirdian> Which is apparently possible.
#3210 [19:09] <Fluuux> i just need to install mods and plugins on i
#3211 [19:09] <Fluuux> it
#3212 [19:09] <Fluuux> but i need help lol
#3213 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> Fluuux: most mods have fora and/or IRC channels in which you can request assistance.
#3214 [19:10] <Fluuux> yea, well i guess i didin't explain myself right
#3215 [19:10] <Fluuux> i want to how many and what they do
#3216 [19:10] <Fluuux> which i don't know anything
#3217 [19:10] <Fluuux> maybe a page listing them
#3218 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> Again, check the fora, there are tons of threads talking about various mods and what they do.
#3219 [19:10] <Fluuux> or something, sorry if im confusing
#3220 [19:10] <Fluuux> fora?
#3221 [19:10] <Fluuux> wheres that?
#3222 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> http://www.minecraftforum.net
#3223 [19:11] <Fluuux> oh.... forums
#3224 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> (fora (n. pl.): Plural form of the singular, 'forum'.)
#3225 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> forum:fora::datum:data::medium:media
#3226 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> <MusicalBackground="lightPiano">The More You Know</MusicalBackground><FX>Swoosh</FX>
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#3229 [19:18] <Realdude19> Quick Question Where can I ask about Server mods for Beta?
#3230 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> #minecraft possibly
#3231 [19:26] <Iguana> No, not #minecraft
#3232 [19:26] <Iguana> #mcp
#3233 [19:26] <Realdude19> ?
#3234 [19:27] <Iguana> Actually, they make them
#3235 [19:27] <Realdude19> ok you sure? I dont want to get in trouble
#3236 [19:27] <Realdude19> lol
#3237 [19:27] <Kealper> he's got an @
#3238 [19:27] <Kealper> so yea
#3239 [19:27] <Iguana> I would assume it'd be safe to ask there
#3240 [19:27] <Kealper> lol
#3241 [19:27] <Iguana> Most of them make client mods though
#3242 [19:27] <Iguana> :/
#3243 [19:27] <Realdude19> HAHAHA Ok Ok Sorry I will try that, and Thank Kealper
#3244 [19:27] <Realdude19> *Thanks
#3245 [19:27] <Kealper> thank me for what -.-
#3246 [19:28] <Iguana> lol
#3247 [19:28] <Kealper> Iguana gave you the channel name lol
#3248 [19:28] <Realdude19> No I ment to Just thank you for the input on the fact he is an admin lol. nvm. But thanks Guys
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#3251 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> Good evening, NeoAngle_ - how might #minecrafthelp make you more congruent today?
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#3253 [19:43] <NeoAngle_> bot?
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#3255 [19:44] <mbentley> one might think so
#3256 [19:44] <mbentley> but one would be wrong
#3257 [19:44] <lysandergray> Hello, question. Is it possible someone built something on my SMP server to make it lag to the point where chests sometimes take 5 seconds to open?
#3258 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: it's unlikely. What's your server load like?
#3259 [19:45] <Kealper> depends, i have not come across anything
#3260 [19:45] <lysandergray> @DopeGhoti, server ran fine with 10 people online. It now lags with just one.
#3261 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: that's all well and good, but how does the load look?
#3262 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> has anything changed with respect to network usage?
#3263 [19:46] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti, I don't know what you mean by load.. net doesn't go above 100KB/sec, and I have plenty bandwith to cover that, up to 10MB
#3264 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> load ~= CPU usage
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#3266 [19:48] <lysandergray> I run the server inside a VirtualBox Ubuntu guest, which is inside a Win7 host. Guest doesn't go above 50% CPU, host doesn't go above 5% CPU. CPU is two-cores, each 3GHz
#3267 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> Cordial salutations, 801. Did you kow that your nick is divisible by three? How can #minecrafthelp assist you?
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#3269 [19:49] <eight-zero-one> when i open minecraft and login
#3270 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: interesting. And memory usage?
#3271 [19:49] <eight-zero-one> i get the message "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#3272 [19:49] <dragontech90> help wyfi maken me uber mad
#3273 [19:49] <dragontech90> lol
#3274 [19:49] <dragontech90> itd dcing alot
#3275 [19:49] <Kealper> O.o
#3276 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> dragontech90: could you be more.. specific?
#3277 [19:49] <dragontech90> i change wifi chanles
#3278 [19:49] <Kealper> dragontech90: move closer to your router? lol
#3279 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> eight-zero-one: can you connect to minecraft.net?
#3280 [19:49] <dragontech90> i live in a camper
#3281 [19:50] <eight-zero-one> nope
#3282 [19:50] <eight-zero-one> The server at minecraft.net is taking too long to respond.
#3283 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> eight-zero-one: well, there's your problem.
#3284 [19:50] <dragontech90> my wifi box is never farther than 20 ft away
#3285 [19:50] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: Not particullary sure. 4GB phyisical on machine, of which 2GB given to guest, of which 1GB given to minecraft_server. World is 30MB.
#3286 [19:50] <dragontech90> i load a video it dc
#3287 [19:50] <eight-zero-one> I know. but why?
#3288 [19:51] <Kealper> dragontech90: that sounds like a network problem, not a minecraft problem :/
#3289 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: is the host machine digging into virtual memory at all?
#3290 [19:51] <dragontech90> i know
#3291 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> eight-zero-one: Not sure; the site's working for me
#3292 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> !check www.minecraft.net:80
#3293 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> and for AuBot
#3294 [19:51] <dragontech90> i change chanels on wifi brodcasting and it happs
#3295 [19:51] <eight-zero-one> dragontech90: chanels ?
#3296 [19:52] <dragontech90> wifi chanles
#3297 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> dragontech90: a camper is basically a bunch of metal boxes. Metal boxes don't play well with low-power radio signals
#3298 [19:52] <dragontech90> what it sends signals on
#3299 [19:52] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: Sorry, I really can't tell. From my shallow grasp of Virtual Memory, it SHOULD be digging into it. I don't know what you mean.
#3300 [19:52] <dragontech90> dude i set nex to the box
#3301 [19:52] <dragontech90> its a arm reatch away
#3302 [19:52] <dragontech90> and it dcs
#3303 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: if your host machine has to dig into VM, that will slow everyhting down, including the guest OS
#3304 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> dragontech90: if it's within spitting distance, why do you need wireless? hook yourself up an Ethernet cable.
#3305 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> If the problems suddenly stop, you know it's a Wifi issue
#3306 [19:53] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: well it has to, it's the nature of Windows, no? What should I be doing here?
#3307 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: Well, while I admire your use of Linux, running a game server out of a virtual environment seems a sketchy proposition at best
#3308 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> especially if Windows is the host
#3309 [19:54] <dragontech90> i move around alot
#3310 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> dragontech90: take some Ritalin.
#3311 [19:54] <dragontech90> and i change Wireless Channel and Extension Channel
#3312 [19:54] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: I have to go this way because my host has an Atheros, and the Win 7 is x64. I'm getting "connection reset by peer" if I host the server on the host machine. I have to go through a virtual adapter to make it work.
#3313 [19:54] <dragontech90> to one ppl dont use
#3314 [19:54] <dragontech90> and it dcs
#3315 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> dragontech90: Try ethernet. If the problems go away, buy a Wifi router that doesn't suck eggs.
#3316 [19:55] <dragontech90> it brand new
#3317 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> new != good.
#3318 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> Try ethernet.
#3319 [19:55] <dragontech90> and ethernet dont dcs
#3320 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> then it's a problem with the wireless connection; be it from the router or from your computer's wireless adapter.
#3321 [19:55] <dragontech90> and puting a ethernet on 24/7 wont work
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#3323 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> replace whichever of the two is cheaper, and if the problems persist, replace the other.
#3324 [19:56] <dragontech90> i hate wires on my laptop
#3325 [19:56] <dragontech90> dude its not that simple
#3326 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> actually, it is- you just confirmed it's a problem with the wireless connection. Which means it's one ned, or the other.
#3327 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> You've already tried different channels.
#3328 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> Short of replacing the hardware, you could check to see if there's new firmware available.
#3329 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> other than that, your options are either new hardware, or a cable.
#3330 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: I haven't forgotten about you :) I'm just trying to think of what else you can try
#3331 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> Is the virtual server dipping into _its_ virtual memory?
#3332 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> (check with 'free -m')
#3333 [19:59] <dragontech90> how about this change Wireless Mode
#3334 [19:59] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: I know you're busy. Gurrr hold on, putty hung on me.
#3335 [19:59] <dragontech90> >.>
#3336 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: no worries :)
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#3338 [20:00] <dragontech90> bute they help whith what they can
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#3341 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> sinedeviance: Welcome to #minecrafthelp! Are you tangent to any problems we can assist you with?
#3342 [20:01] <sinedeviance> DopeGhoti: nope, i tend to idle here. but thanks anyways.
#3343 [20:01] <Destroyer> Yes I need some help
#3344 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> Destroyer: by all means, elaborate.
#3345 [20:01] <Destroyer> I just downloaded Java, and I was starting up the game
#3346 [20:02] <Destroyer> And all of a sudden, it says something about 'Pixel format not being accelerated'
#3347 [20:02] <Destroyer> By the way, I don't own the game
#3348 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> Destroyer: do you happen to have the exact error message?
#3349 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> Are you playing Classic in-browser, then?
#3350 [20:03] <Destroyer> Yes
#3351 [20:03] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: If I'm reading this right... Swap: 397 / used 0 / free 397. So no, it's not dipping I guess.
#3352 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: excellent.
#3353 [20:03] <Destroyer> If by that, you mean a normal internet browser, then yes
#3354 [20:03] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: pixel format not accelerated is a video card driver issue
#3355 [20:03] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: either that or your card isn't powerful enough or doesn't support opengl
#3356 [20:03] <Destroyer> Is it really?
#3357 [20:03] <sinedeviance> yep
#3358 [20:04] <sinedeviance> you running official drivers for that card?
#3359 [20:04] <sinedeviance> the windows generics wont work, they dont include opengl
#3360 [20:04] <Destroyer> Well how do I fix this?
#3361 [20:04] <Destroyer> Uh huh
#3362 [20:04] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: what kind of video card do you have?
#3363 [20:04] <Destroyer> I am completely not sure
#3364 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: hmmmrnmm.. Next time you see the lag happening, type 'uptime' into the console
#3365 [20:04] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: what kind of computer do you have?
#3366 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> you will see something like this:
#3367 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> 18:06:43 up 29 days, 21:08, 19 users, load average: 3.34, 3.29, 3.27
#3368 [20:04] <Destroyer> I just took my computer in for repairs today, though
#3369 [20:04] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: also, what OS?
#3370 [20:04] <Destroyer> To increase the RAM
#3371 [20:05] <Destroyer> Windows XP
#3372 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: the three numbers after Load Average are the ones I'd be interested in seeing
#3373 [20:05] <sinedeviance> <Destroyer> I just took my computer in for repairs today, though <-- it's irrelevant
#3374 [20:05] <Destroyer> Ahh I see
#3375 [20:05] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: ok. do this for me. right click on desktop. click 'properties' and then click 'display' tab all the way to the right
#3376 [20:05] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: then click 'Advanced' button on that tab
#3377 [20:05] <Destroyer> Ok 1 second
#3378 [20:05] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: there should be entires for 'Adapter type'
#3379 [20:05] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: sure
#3380 [20:06] <sinedeviance> i'm on win7 and the GUI is different so i might be incorrect in walking you through this
#3381 [20:06] <Destroyer> Yeah mine says appearance, but its all the same
#3382 [20:07] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: eh... appearance?
#3383 [20:07] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: okeis. disregard that and do this instead. right click on my computer and click 'manage'
#3384 [20:07] <Destroyer> Yeah I just realized it says nothing about the driver
#3385 [20:08] <Destroyer> Ok...
#3386 [20:08] <sinedeviance> thats fine
#3387 [20:08] <sinedeviance> once you're in computer management, click 'device manager' on the left
#3388 [20:08] <Destroyer> Ok
#3389 [20:08] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: I can't run uptime at the exact same moment of the lag spike, clears up too fast for me to alt+tab and hit enter on uptime. closest I got was load average: 0.95, 0.49, 0.21. If it helps, I have Process Explorer running on the host and I see absolutely no CPU spike at that moment. For that matter, I see no spike at all in the graphs there.
#3390 [20:08] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: once device manager loads, open up 'display adapters'
#3391 [20:08] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: also, if you see any yellow question mark icons with '
#3392 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> sinedeviance: http://www.oyah.net/operatingsystemsimulation <- helpful for walking folks through other OSs :)
#3393 [20:09] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: also, if you see any yellow question mark icons with 'unknown device' ** sorry about that
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#3395 [20:09] <sinedeviance> DopeGhoti: page not found man
#3396 [20:09] <sinedeviance> DopeGhoti: er nevermind, i found it. URL is just wrong :D
#3397 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> sinedeviance: sorry: http://www.oyah.net/simulationsubmenu/operating-system-simulations
#3398 [20:10] <mbentley> well that is quite nifty...
#3399 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: those numbers do show increasing load, though parsing them properly for a VCPU can be.. fun
#3400 [20:10] <sinedeviance> DopeGhoti: no right click though :(
#3401 [20:10] <Destroyer> S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR (Microsoft Corporation)
#3402 [20:10] <sinedeviance> DopeGhoti: cool nonetheless
#3403 [20:10] <Destroyer> Is that my driver?
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#3405 [20:11] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: okay ... yeah, thats not gonna run minecraft. sorry man. those cards are ANCIENT.
#3406 [20:11] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: like... 1999 ancient.
#3407 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> sinedeviance: yeah, no right-click, but the control panel(s) is/are fairly complete
#3408 [20:11] <Destroyer> Yeah so is the computer
#3409 [20:11] <sinedeviance> i had one when Unreal Tournament came out D:
#3410 [20:11] <mbentley> oh wow
#3411 [20:11] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: yeah, sorry dude. minecraft actually needs quite a beefy rig
#3412 [20:11] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: Know any CPU-intensive command I could run to force the load for kicks?
#3413 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> (og $deity; S3 chips? I'm sorry. I'm so sorry)
#3414 [20:11] <Destroyer> So how much do you think it will cost to replace it with a newer driver?
#3415 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: :{:&:};: (No, do NOT run this)
#3416 [20:12] <Destroyer> And which driver should I ask/look for
#3417 [20:12] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: uh... driver is just the software. you cant replace it. buy a new computer. whatever is in that system will NOT run minecraft at playable speeds.
#3418 [20:12] <lysandergray> Err.. that looks a bit like while(1)
#3419 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> not quite
#3420 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> it's worse
#3421 [20:12] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: a crash course in computers ... the driver is just a piece of software that runs the hardware (your video chip in this case)
#3422 [20:13] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: drivers are free, hardware isnt :D
#3423 [20:13] <mbentley> too bad ;)
#3424 [20:13] <Destroyer> Drivers are free?
#3425 [20:13] <Destroyer> So I can just download a new one tonight?
#3426 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: seriously, though, you could try sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null
#3427 [20:13] <mbentley> yeah but it probably wouldn't help
#3428 [20:13] <mbentley> then again, they may not have new drivers for such an old card
#3429 [20:14] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: you can but it wont help. the video card (your hardware) is not powerful enough to run minecraft.
#3430 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> Destroyer: The only worse GPU I can think of than S3 is Trident, and they've been out of the market for a dog's age.
#3431 [20:14] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: you cant even get drivers for windowsXP for that card. the only ones available will be microsoft generics and those do not support opengl.
#3432 [20:14] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: that was a windows 98-era card.
#3433 [20:14] <sinedeviance> and maybe windows ME
#3434 [20:14] <Destroyer> Woah!
#3435 [20:14] <sinedeviance> still... different driver models. it wont be officially supported in XP
#3436 [20:15] <sinedeviance> that card doesnt even SUPPORT opengl. i.e. it doesnt support it in hardware.
#3437 [20:15] <sinedeviance> it's a directx 5 card
#3438 [20:15] <Destroyer> So if I understand this correctly, I either need a new video card or a new computer...
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#3440 [20:15] <GigaClon> with that setup prolly a new computer
#3441 [20:15] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: eh, better just bank on new computer. they dont make video cards that will work with your older hardware anymore.
#3442 [20:15] <mbentley> Destroyer: it could be likely both
#3443 [20:16] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: you cant even BUY one that will work. unless you buy something ancient off ebay.
#3444 [20:16] <Destroyer> Wow
#3445 [20:16] <Destroyer> Anyway thanks for your help
#3446 [20:16] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: sure man. sorry :(
#3447 [20:16] <Destroyer> It was really...helpful
#3448 [20:16] <Destroyer> :)
#3449 [20:16] <sinedeviance> eh, i know it really wasnt
#3450 [20:16] <sinedeviance> but seriously man ... computers have never been cheaper
#3451 [20:16] <sinedeviance> time to upgrade!
#3452 [20:16] <Destroyer> Its ok I need a new computer anyway :D
#3453 [20:17] <sinedeviance> also, protip -- dont buy one from dell or HP or etc. build your own.
#3454 [20:17] <Destroyer> I think your right
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#3456 [20:17] <Destroyer> Lol
#3457 [20:17] <sinedeviance> you'll save hundreds and end up with much better hardware
#3458 [20:17] <GigaClon> yeah I like my computer
#3459 [20:17] <Destroyer> Sounds like fun
#3460 [20:17] <Destroyer> Anyway thanks!
#3461 [20:17] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: another protip -- dell and HP and etc. are all shit ;)
#3462 [20:17] <sinedeviance> sure
#3463 [20:17] <Destroyer> Yeah I agree
#3464 [20:18] <GigaClon> except for the fact that I have to leave the cover off or the computer will over heat
#3465 [20:18] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: if you decide you want to build a new computer, i can help you find parts that will fit a budget
#3466 [20:18] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: we can help you put it together too
#3467 [20:18] <sinedeviance> Destroyer: for a computer that will run minecraft well, you only need to spend about $300
#3468 [20:18] <Destroyer> Sure I will check in here if I ever have any questions regarding the game or just computers in general!
#3469 [20:19] <sinedeviance> well... it'll run it well enough to be playable anyways
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#3471 [20:19] <GigaClon> newegg is your friend
#3472 [20:19] <sinedeviance> ^this
#3473 [20:19] <mbentley> <3 newegg
#3474 [20:19] <sinedeviance> i was gonna wishlist him a list on newegg :D
#3475 [20:19] <Destroyer> See ya!
#3476 [20:20] <sinedeviance> later
#3477 [20:20] <mbentley> wow, s3...
#3478 [20:20] <sinedeviance> anybody in here have a higher-end ATI 5-series card?
#3479 [20:20] <mbentley> haha
#3480 [20:20] <sinedeviance> i have an ATI HD5850 and i cant get the depth of field mod to work (yes, i'm aware you guys dont officially offer mod support)
#3481 [20:20] <mbentley> last s3 video card i had was in my compaq from 1995
#3482 [20:21] <sinedeviance> anyways the card is MORE than capable but it just gives me a black screen after worldgen
#3483 [20:22] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: I personally suspect disk overload. The vbox' disk is set to SATA, not IDE, so that's not an issue. Is there any way I can monitor disk access?
#3484 [20:23] <eight-zero-one> hello
#3485 [20:24] <sinedeviance> eight-zero-one: hi
#3486 [20:24] <mbentley> hola
#3487 [20:25] <eight-zero-one> I am not able to connect to minecraft.net
#3488 [20:25] <mbentley> works fine here...
#3489 [20:26] <eight-zero-one> why is it not working for me then
#3490 [20:26] <mbentley> what are you getting when you try to go there?
#3491 [20:27] <eight-zero-one> The server at minecraft.net is taking too long to respond.
#3492 [20:28] <mbentley> you are talking about through your web browser, right?
#3493 [20:28] <lysandergray> perhaps related, but my server just threw a "5504 for checkserver.jsp just now.
#3494 [20:28] <eight-zero-one> on minecraft it says "Can`t connect to minecraft.net"
#3495 [20:28] <lysandergray> errr 504.
#3496 [20:29] <mbentley> might just be the typical random server issues. i'd say try refreshing
#3497 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: yes, there's a program called iotop
#3498 [20:29] <lysandergray> Even though minecraft.net loads fine in browser. Yep, service looks spotty at the moment, refresh it.
#3499 [20:31] <mbentley> yeah, just got a gateway timeout
#3500 [20:31] <eight-zero-one> mbentley its been like that for awhile
#3501 [20:31] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: Which column should I be paying attention to? It's very confusing.
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#3503 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: generally the last two- they show how much a process has been waiting for disk IO to finish
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#3505 [20:33] <i81u812> ok whats the flaming cages for really
#3506 [20:33] <i81u812> and can I move it
#3507 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> i81u812: they spawn monsters
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#3509 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> and no, you can only destroy it
#3510 [20:33] <i81u812> I know it spawns something I just dont know what
#3511 [20:33] <i81u812> well then I dont want it
#3512 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> phantomcircuit: Salutations! Welcome to Party Barn; may we take your order?
#3513 [20:34] <i81u812> I was lucky enough to find two dungeons this week on the same map
#3514 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> i81u812: there are more to be found, I'm sure
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#3516 [20:36] <i81u812> im sure of the same
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#3518 [20:37] <i81u812> can I replant wheat ive found in a dungeon?
#3519 [20:38] <lysandergray> You can only plant seeds. Wheat is the end product.
#3520 [20:38] <ConMan8> Wheat is used for bread
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#3522 [20:38] <mbentley> <3 grilled pork
#3523 [20:38] <i81u812> where do I get the seeds without a wiki minecraft reference?
#3524 [20:38] <mbentley> OM NOM NOM
#3525 [20:38] <i81u812> please
#3526 [20:38] <mbentley> grass
#3527 [20:38] <xales> Wow
#3528 [20:38] <i81u812> ok ty
#3529 [20:39] <lysandergray> Craft a hoe and till grass with it.
#3530 [20:39] <xales> That is reeeeally stupid
#3531 [20:39] <mbentley> use a hoe, right?
#3532 [20:39] <i81u812> yeah well ive done everything but the simple things
#3533 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> xales: ?
#3534 [20:39] <xales> so aparrantly the IRC bot I had written was ignoring anything it recieved "simultaneously"
#3535 [20:39] <xales> I was returning from a for loop
#3536 [20:39] <xales> when I should have been continuing
#3537 [20:39] <xales> ._.
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#3539 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> Good times.
#3540 [20:40] <xales> and it took me 3 hours of debugging
#3541 [20:40] <xales> to realize that
#3542 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> (why, Minecraft Overviewer, must you slow down from 1000 tiles a second to 1000 tiles over 12 minutes?)
#3543 [20:40] <jDodson99> Does anyone here use World of Minecraft custom client? (I think that's the name of it)
#3544 [20:41] <eight-zero-one_> it still isnt working
#3545 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> 801, where are you located?
#3546 [20:41] <eight-zero-one> the north utah area
#3547 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> I do see some internet backbone issues between Verizon and Level3, but nothing that should keep minecraft.net from working
#3548 [20:42] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: While repeatedly opening and closing a chest in Minecraft and watching iotop: There's no change WHILE the spike is in progress, but once it's over iotop reports 99.99% in the "IO>" column for either "java -server.... .jar nogui" or "jbd2/sda1-8"
#3549 [20:42] <mbentley> it looks like a minecraft server issue
#3550 [20:42] <mbentley> if it was a backbone issue, we wouldn't get the 504s
#3551 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: okay, that's the problem in all likelihood
#3552 [20:43] <i81u812> wow I was just saying now ive found 3 two adjacent from each other in a hallway damn my lucky day
#3553 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> the virtual HD is too slow reading the file the chunk with the chest is stored in
#3554 [20:43] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: ok, but what do I blame this on? My hdd, Windows 7, VirtualBox, Ubuntu, or Minecraft Beta? :)
#3555 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> I'd blame it on VirtualBox
#3556 [20:44] <lysandergray> Strange, because I ran a new clean server in the same environment and the issue was nowhere to be seen.
#3557 [20:44] <lysandergray> Is it safe to assume once Notch implements the new one-file save format, that this'll clear up?
#3558 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> I think it's _reasonable_ to assume that. _safe_ is another question entirely
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#3560 [20:46] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: I'd move the server to the host if I could. Are you familiar with the Atheros net chip problems?
#3561 [20:48] <eight-zero-one> yes
#3562 [20:48] <eight-zero-one> finally works
#3563 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: only nodding familiarity
#3564 [20:49] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: Only really need to know if it's something that only happens on x64 Win 7. There are so many threads covering this, I couldn't find an answer.
#3565 [20:49] <lysandergray> I'll switch to x86 if I know it works there.
#3566 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> I've never attempted to run a MC server on Windows, so I never really looked into it deeply
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#3568 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> on that note: workday over! See y'all from home
#3569 [20:50] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: Thank you very much for your time. I really appreciate it.
#3570 [20:51] <dopeghoti> happy to've helped
#3571 [20:52] <lysandergray> I'm gonna wait for my current Win 7 to keel over and also for the new save file format, then I'll try out x86, see where that'll get me. Again, thanks a bunch!
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#3573 [20:57] <xales> Kealper: I have a question
#3574 [20:58] <xales> Kealper:
#3575 [20:58] <xales> Kealper:
#3576 [20:58] <Kealper> yessum?
#3577 [20:58] <xales> there you are
#3578 [20:58] <Kealper> was finishing that epic subway in mc lol
#3579 [20:58] <xales> ah
#3580 [20:59] <xales> query, kealper
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#3587 [21:07] <aetherian> wow
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#3589 [21:07] <aetherian> retianfes
#3590 [21:07] <clone1019> Hi
#3591 [21:07] <aetherian> hello
#3592 [21:07] <clone1019> How do you fix a corrupted world
#3593 [21:07] <aetherian> duct tape
#3594 [21:08] <lysandergray> RetianFes: You owe us a new door. You broke that one, coming in and out.
#3595 [21:08] <aetherian> `haha
#3596 [21:08] <Kealper> lol
#3597 [21:08] <aetherian> erm brb
#3598 [21:08] <clone1019> How do you fix a corrupted world
#3599 [21:08] * clone1019 bothers everyone
#3599 [21:08] <Kealper> you can't
#3600 [21:09] <clone1019> Really...?
#3601 [21:09] <mbentley> clone1019: some people have luck opening them in a map editor and saving them apparently
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#3603 [21:09] <clone1019> FFFFFFF
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#3605 [21:09] <clone1019> 83.5 hours of work
#3606 [21:09] <clone1019> Gone
#3607 [21:09] <mbentley> i've never done it myself because i back up my world...
#3608 [21:09] <clone1019> I dont
#3609 [21:09] <mbentley> and i just haven't ever had a map corrupt
#3610 [21:09] <lysandergray> I'd love to have one.
#3611 [21:10] <Cial> i hate when that happens i had a rather nice world go poof on me
#3612 [21:10] <lysandergray> Get the chance to start from scratch without dealing with the difficulty of voluntarily abandoning an old world?
#3613 [21:10] <mbentley> clone1019: did you see my suggestion about opening it with a map editor and saving it?
#3614 [21:10] <clone1019> yes
#3615 [21:11] <clone1019> I FIXED IT
#3616 [21:11] <clone1019> YARR!
#3617 [21:11] <mbentley> rm -rf world. done
#3618 [21:11] <xales> Cial
#3619 [21:11] <mbentley> </sarcasm>
#3620 [21:11] <xales> what do you think about *snip*
#3621 [21:11] <Cial> xales
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#3623 [21:11] <Cial> fuck
#3624 [21:11] <braxton> !test bluecraft.dyndns.org
#3625 [21:11] <Cial> they got through when i was distracted :/
#3626 [21:11] <mbentley> try !check
#3627 [21:11] <braxton> Ah, thanks.
#3628 [21:11] <mbentley> np
#3629 [21:11] <braxton> !check bluecraft.dyndns.org
#3630 [21:12] <braxton> Fiddlesticks.
#3631 [21:12] <lysandergray> What's !check?
#3632 [21:12] <xales> Cial
#3633 [21:12] <xales> you see what I said?
#3634 [21:12] <AG_Elias> lysandergray, a very complicated ping.
#3635 [21:12] <Cial> about what xales
#3636 [21:12] <lysandergray> Looks to me like a good way to advertise :p
#3637 [21:12] <lysandergray> !check karmic.ro
#3638 [21:12] <lysandergray> XD
#3639 [21:13] <AG_Elias> !check chserver.net
#3640 [21:13] <AG_Elias> Awesome. Don't mind if I check every five minutes.
#3641 [21:14] <Cial> xales, did you see my response
#3642 [21:14] <lysandergray> Heh.. I see it in the server console. Looks like it's checking 25565
#3643 [21:14] <xales> indeed, sorry, I stepped away for a moment
#3644 [21:14] <AG_Elias> lysandergray, that's the point of it.
#3645 [21:14] <AG_Elias> !check chserver.net:25566
#3646 [21:14] <lysandergray> AG_Elias: didn't know
#3647 [21:14] <braxton> !check 2.69.208.181
#3648 [21:14] <braxton> !check 72.69.208.181
#3649 [21:15] <AG_Elias> !check 127.0.0.1
#3650 [21:15] <braxton> Ah, good.
#3651 [21:15] <braxton> Lol, Ag
#3652 [21:15] <lysandergray> Uh oh. Infinite loop!
#3653 [21:16] <lysandergray> Looks like it has localhost filtered out.
#3654 [21:16] <AG_Elias> !check localhost
#3655 [21:16] <AG_Elias> >:D
#3656 [21:17] <xales> !disable
#3657 [21:17] <xales> stop playing with bot, please
#3658 [21:17] <xales> !enable
#3659 [21:17] <AG_Elias> So no having it check NIC aliases on the local network?
#3660 [21:17] <lysandergray> Sorry, was just trying to figure out what that is.
#3661 [21:18] <xales> Kealper:
#3662 [21:19] <xales> AG_Elias: you know what I mean
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#3664 [21:19] <clone1019> Why'd you ping Kealper?
#3665 [21:20] <xales> none of your business
#3666 [21:20] <clone1018> Actually
#3667 [21:20] <clone1018> It's not
#3668 [21:20] <clone1018> But you don't have to be an ass about it
#3669 [21:20] <xales> how is that being an ass?
#3670 [21:20] <xales> what would you like me to have said?
#3671 [21:21] <AG_Elias> Well, it is true. He doesn't have to explain his every action to you, clone1018.
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#3673 [21:21] <clone1018> Yes he does
#3674 [21:21] <AG_Elias> ...
#3675 [21:22] <Danster9987> Uhh excuse me
#3676 [21:22] <xales> ?
#3677 [21:22] <AG_Elias> Yes, Danster9987?
#3678 [21:22] <AG_Elias> How may we assist you?
#3679 [21:22] <Danster9987> Can anyone help me figure out this error report?
#3680 [21:22] <AG_Elias> Sure. Could you pastebin it?
#3681 [21:22] <Danster9987> Sure
#3682 [21:22] <Danster9987> Im not sure if its an error report
#3683 [21:23] <Danster9987> Minecraft runs fine, except these files clutter my desktop
#3684 [21:23] <Danster9987> one second
#3685 [21:25] <Danster9987> http://pastebin.com/1zgrEPGT
#3686 [21:25] <Danster9987> ^
#3687 [21:25] <Danster9987> :D
#3688 [21:25] <xales> ah, that
#3689 [21:25] <xales> is a known issue
#3690 [21:25] <xales> nothing easy you can do about it, unfortunately
#3691 [21:26] <xales> much easier to just live with it
#3692 [21:26] <Danster9987> Alright
#3693 [21:26] <Danster9987> I thought i might as well try :P
#3694 [21:26] <Danster9987> Thanks
#3695 [21:27] <i81u812> Im having the best hour ever.... 3 dungeons and now pumpkins
#3696 [21:27] <lysandergray> Actualy there is. You could move your Minecraft.exe to a folder, and create a shortcut to it on your desktop. Will hide all those error reports.
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#3698 [21:27] <cfdpipeman> Am I imagining it or are there seasons in MC. Sorry for the newbie question.
#3699 [21:27] <Danster9987> Sure
#3700 [21:28] <xales> cfdpipeman: there are biomes, not seasons
#3701 [21:28] <Dermoplast> Nah man, though notch plans to add them
#3702 [21:28] <cfdpipeman> It just seems like the snow and Ice moves closer and closer.
#3703 [21:30] <lysandergray> Are nightly builds available yet?
#3704 [21:30] <mbentley> no
#3705 [21:30] <Miclee> Dermoplast, biomes were the solution to seasons.
#3706 [21:30] <Miclee> There will be weather, though.
#3707 [21:30] <Miclee> And pigmen.
#3708 [21:31] <xales> there already are pigmen; just not truly living pigmen
#3709 [21:31] <Miclee> True.
#3710 [21:31] <Dermoplast> There is supposed to be a seasonal biome though
#3711 [21:31] <lysandergray> I hope living pigmen won't be so forgiving.
#3712 [21:32] <Miclee> Living pigmen will have villages.
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#3715 [21:32] <aetherian> oh joy.
#3716 [21:33] <aetherian> just got this computer and I think I somehow got a virus. wonder from where...
#3717 [21:33] <Kealper> sites-that-can't-be-named?
#3718 [21:33] <lysandergray> The internets perhaps? Firewall? Downloads?
#3719 [21:33] <Dermoplast> red spies?
#3720 [21:34] <lysandergray> Spy chicken...?
#3721 [21:34] <Kealper> Dermoplast: very well could have been...
#3722 [21:34] <Cial> aetherian, do you think you can keep your DTDs to yourself?
#3723 [21:34] <lysandergray> Digitally Transmited Disease?
#3724 [21:34] <Dermoplast> maybe your computer is trying to commit suicide
#3725 [21:35] <Cial> yea lysandergray
#3726 [21:35] <lysandergray> Hot-damn! That was a shot in the dark.
#3727 [21:35] <Kealper> lol
#3728 [21:35] <aetherian> cial: no. tyvm :)
#3729 [21:36] * Cial gets a pike
#3729 [21:38] <aetherian> ooh
#3730 [21:39] <aetherian> you're gonna cook fish for me?
#3731 [21:39] <aetherian> :D
#3732 [21:40] <Kealper> lol...
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#3737 [21:46] * aetherian loves puns
#3737 [21:47] <aetherian> well ima brb
#3738 [21:47] <aetherian> soon
#3739 [21:47] <aetherian> because I know that xales especially cares
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#3741 [21:47] <aetherian> hey bill
#3742 [21:48] <aetherian> meh I don't have to brb
#3743 [21:49] * aetherian is back [gone: nobody cares]
#3743 [21:50] <Kealper> hmm....
#3744 [21:50] <Kealper> my hilight window ran away....
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#3748 [22:06] <Fluuux> hey is grey here?
#3749 [22:06] <xales> nope
#3750 [22:06] <xales> what do you need help with?
#3751 [22:06] <aetherian> oh xales. you're back.
#3752 [22:06] <xales> I didn't leave
#3753 [22:07] <xales> Fluuux: I can help you
#3754 [22:07] <xales> Grey isn't the only one
#3755 [22:07] <Fluuux> oh k Thanks :D
#3756 [22:07] <lysandergray> wat
#3757 [22:08] <Fluuux> well its something to modding
#3758 [22:08] <Fluuux> idk if you can
#3759 [22:08] <Fluuux> cause its against the plicy
#3760 [22:08] <Fluuux> policy
#3761 [22:08] <xales> what specifically
#3762 [22:08] <xales> I can direct you where to help
#3763 [22:08] <Fluuux> how to install and use hey0
#3764 [22:08] <Fluuux> properly
#3765 [22:08] <Fluuux> i got it installed
#3766 [22:08] <Kealper> http://wiki.hey0.net
#3767 [22:08] <Fluuux> but not configured right
#3768 [22:08] <Fluuux> it hink
#3769 [22:08] <Fluuux> think..
#3770 [22:09] <lysandergray> Wouldn't that be something best directed to the hmod forums?
#3771 [22:09] <Fluuux> yea im on that site
#3772 [22:09] <Fluuux> but i mest it up
#3773 [22:09] <Fluuux> D:
#3774 [22:09] <Fluuux> so i need someone that has a server
#3775 [22:09] <Fluuux> with hey0
#3776 [22:09] <Fluuux> to help me
#3777 [22:09] <clone1018> #hey0
#3778 [22:09] <clone1018> or #hmod
#3779 [22:10] <Fluuux> i joined hmod
#3780 [22:10] <xales> its #hey0
#3781 [22:10] <Fluuux> and said your message couldn't be sent
#3782 [22:10] <xales> you need to register with nickserv to talk
#3783 [22:10] <Fluuux> oh yea im on hey0
#3784 [22:10] <xales> /msg nickserv help register
#3785 [22:10] <Fluuux> just joined that hmod though
#3786 [22:11] <Fluuux> is their a ts3 you guys us?
#3787 [22:11] <Fluuux> use.
#3788 [22:12] <Fluuux> i got one you guys can use, but idk if can post the info here since it is part of advertising
#3789 [22:12] <lysandergray> Err that's sorta like asking if we have phone support, isn't it..
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#3791 [22:12] <Fluuux> lol sorry
#3792 [22:13] <Fluuux> i was just saying if you guys wanted to join up to play and talk to each other
#3793 [22:13] <Fluuux> message me
#3794 [22:13] <Fluuux> so i could give you the info
#3795 [22:13] <Fluuux> :D
#3796 [22:13] <xales> oh, teamspeak
#3797 [22:13] <xales> if we needed one, we could host one
#3798 [22:13] <Fluuux> not asking for support on ts3
#3799 [22:13] <xales> no need though
#3800 [22:13] <Fluuux> yea
#3801 [22:13] <Fluuux> ok, just offering
#3802 [22:13] <lysandergray> Did you manage to get into the hMod channels?
#3803 [22:13] <xales> thanks though
#3804 [22:13] <Fluuux> if you guys wanted to go there
#3805 [22:13] <Fluuux> ever....
#3806 [22:13] <Fluuux> no
#3807 [22:13] <Fluuux> i got into it
#3808 [22:14] <Fluuux> but it says Your message couldn't be sent to the channel
#3809 [22:14] <xales> you have to register
#3810 [22:14] <xales> with nickserv
#3811 [22:14] <xales> as I said
#3812 [22:14] <xales> /msg nickserv register email password
#3813 [22:14] <xales> I think
#3814 [22:15] <xales> wrong way
#3815 [22:15] <xales> /msg nickserv register password email
#3816 [22:15] <lysandergray> It's the other way around
#3817 [22:15] <lysandergray> yeah
#3818 [22:15] <Fluuux> i cna type in the hey0 channel but not in the hmod channel
#3819 [22:15] <Fluuux> oh well
#3820 [22:15] <Fluuux> its ok i guess same channel
#3821 [22:17] <xales> Fluuux: did you see what I said
#3822 [22:17] <Fluuux> yes i join the channel
#3823 [22:17] <xales> then you have to register
#3824 [22:17] <xales> in order to talk
#3825 [22:17] <Fluuux> talking to lysandergray
#3826 [22:17] <Fluuux> on that channel
#3827 [22:18] <lysandergray> He's fine, he's in there. And err, no, you're not talking to me. I was in there just to confirm to you you're in the right place.
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#3829 [22:19] <Fluuux> yea thats what i meant
#3830 [22:19] <Fluuux> sorry.
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#3832 [22:19] <FlameHead269> Hey guys!
#3833 [22:19] <Fluuux> hey :D
#3834 [22:20] <Fluuux> thanks xales and lysandgray
#3835 [22:20] <FlameHead269> is xales and mbently her?
#3836 [22:20] <Fluuux> for helping me :D
#3837 [22:20] <Fluuux> xales is
#3838 [22:20] <xales> FlameHead269: I am
#3839 [22:20] <Kealper> dang xales, you're popular tonight lol
#3840 [22:20] <FlameHead269> remeber what u said
#3841 [22:20] <FlameHead269> I screqed myself
#3842 [22:20] <xales> Kealper, you should be helping too
#3843 [22:20] <xales> :'(
#3844 [22:20] <FlameHead269> well actually my disks were bad
#3845 [22:21] <FlameHead269> tso used a usb for install
#3846 [22:21] <FlameHead269> and ehre i am now on Unbuntu
#3847 [22:21] <Kealper> yeah, true, i should....you people are ninja'ing me to the punch though
#3848 [22:21] <FlameHead269> ubuntu
#3849 [22:21] <FlameHead269> lol
#3850 [22:21] <xales> FlameHead269: and slow as hell because its on USB
#3851 [22:21] <xales> ;)
#3852 [22:21] <FlameHead269> xales no
#3853 [22:21] <FlameHead269> i installed it
#3854 [22:21] <FlameHead269> so i dont need usb
#3855 [22:21] <FlameHead269> its rlly fast
#3856 [22:21] <xales> if you installed Ubuntu on the USB
#3857 [22:21] <FlameHead269> no lag server
#3858 [22:21] <xales> then you are running from the USB
#3859 [22:21] <FlameHead269> nooooooo
#3860 [22:21] <FlameHead269> no
#3861 [22:22] <FlameHead269> i put the software on it
#3862 [22:22] <FlameHead269> then it came up wit a menu
#3863 [22:22] <FlameHead269> click on install ubuntu
#3864 [22:22] <FlameHead269> and ur my 500GB Hard Drive came up
#3865 [22:22] <FlameHead269> so im using Linux in every part of my PC
#3866 [22:23] <FlameHead269> lol
#3867 [22:23] <FlameHead269> buuut anyway
#3868 [22:23] <FlameHead269> Hows everyone doing to night?
#3869 [22:23] <FlameHead269> xD
#3870 [22:24] <sinedeviance> oh my god
#3871 [22:24] <sinedeviance> hey xales
#3872 [22:24] <sinedeviance> whats up?
#3873 [22:25] <FlameHead269> Hey can anyone tell me if my server is lagggy?
#3874 [22:25] <sinedeviance> <xales> then you are running from the USB <-- wrong btw
#3875 [22:25] <Kealper> don't abuse your enter button so much :/
#3876 [22:25] <sinedeviance> you are running from RAM
#3877 [22:25] <sinedeviance> the USB stick is just the boot media
#3878 [22:26] <FlameHead269> its just my PC
#3879 [22:26] <FlameHead269> with ubuntu
#3880 [22:27] <xales> sinedeviance: you can install ubuntu on a USB, I've done it before. I thought that is what he meant
#3881 [22:27] <sinedeviance> xales: you can, yes. but the OS itself runs in RAM.
#3882 [22:27] <sinedeviance> xales: when you run minecraft or the server, everything runs totally in RAM as well
#3883 [22:27] <FlameHead269> is this why this thing is like ()_() fast
#3884 [22:27] <sinedeviance> it only writes to the drive when the world is saved
#3885 [22:28] <xales> it has to load from the disk, sine. so anything that isn't in the cache will be loaded from the USB. and it will swap to the USB
#3886 [22:29] <FlameHead269> hmm
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#3888 [22:29] <FlameHead269> well idk what is was but i know that there is no disk or USB with 320GB of disk space
#3889 [22:31] <Kealper> !motd
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#3891 [22:34] <sinedeviance> <xales> it has to load from the disk, sine. so anything that isn't in the cache will be loaded from the USB. and it will swap to the USB <-- it will swap, yes. but only if you run out of RAM.
#3892 [22:35] <xales> !motd
#3893 [22:35] <sinedeviance> and the world isn't kept in the cache, it's kept entirely in RAM until save-all
#3894 [22:35] <xales> I'm talking about Ubuntu
#3895 [22:35] <sinedeviance> so yeah, you should see no performance decrease UNTIL you save the world
#3896 [22:35] <sinedeviance> and when starting the server, of course
#3897 [22:35] <sinedeviance> well i'm talking about minecraft
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#3901 [22:40] <aetherian> ello mateys
#3902 [22:42] <Kealper> ello
#3903 [22:42] <aetherian> whoa
#3904 [22:42] <aetherian> kealp, you're going to rip a hole in... uh... the irc/aetherian continuum
#3905 [22:43] <aetherian> no one actually says hi back to me when I leave and come back
#3906 [22:43] <aetherian> =ooo
#3907 [22:44] <aetherian> ooh
#3908 [22:44] <aetherian> is that game any good?
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#3910 [22:44] <aetherian> hey snowy
#3911 [22:44] <aetherian> wait
#3912 [22:44] <aetherian> snowy was a dog
#3913 [22:44] <aetherian> my bad
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#3917 [22:52] <theunwiseman> Hello, all.
#3918 [22:52] <theunwiseman> I was looking for help on playing Classic.
#3919 [22:53] <theunwiseman> I can't seem to get it running in my browser.
#3920 [22:53] <theunwiseman> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04, using Google Chrome.
#3921 [22:54] <theunwiseman> Every time I go to the single player classic screen, it loads the applet, and, for a split second, I see the Minecraft splash screen, then the applet just goes blank.
#3922 [22:54] <clone1018> !ping
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#3924 [22:55] <FlameHead269> k
#3925 [22:56] <FlameHead269> YYYYYYYYEAAAAAAH UBUNTU
#3926 [22:56] <FlameHead269> rock on bro
#3927 [22:56] <theunwiseman> Indeed.
#3928 [22:56] <FlameHead269> Linux is awesom
#3929 [22:56] <theunwiseman> I have no problem playing the downloadable client.
#3930 [22:56] <theunwiseman> Just in-browser.
#3931 [22:56] <FlameHead269> ether do i
#3932 [22:56] <xales> theunwiseman: update your graphics card driver
#3933 [22:56] <FlameHead269> same
#3934 [22:56] <theunwiseman> It's fully updated.
#3935 [22:56] <FlameHead269> ()_() i have no prob wit driver if i can use texture packs[HD]
#3936 [22:57] <theunwiseman> I'm running an Intel Express 4 onboard chipset.
#3937 [22:57] <theunwiseman> Not much to update.
#3938 [22:57] <xales> that may be the issue then
#3939 [22:57] <lysandergray> Urgh Intel ...
#3940 [22:57] <FlameHead269> Intel is awesome
#3941 [22:57] <xales> onboard chipsets suck. onboard intel chipsets are horrid
#3942 [22:57] <theunwiseman> Are you sure it's not something to do with my JRE?
#3943 [22:57] <FlameHead269> welll
#3944 [22:57] <FlameHead269> mines embedded
#3945 [22:57] <xales> theunwiseman: unlikely. as long as JRE is up to date, and it usually is, it isn't likely the issue
#3946 [22:57] <FlameHead269> like a stick of uranium
#3947 [22:58] <theunwiseman> Would it matter that I'm using IcedTea and not Sun's JRE?
#3948 [22:58] <aetherian> I can't wait till something like dragons gets added into minecraft.
#3949 [22:58] <aetherian> I'm "waiting for the wyrms
#3950 [22:58] <aetherian> "
#3951 [22:58] <theunwiseman> You mean waiting to _follow_ the wyrms?
#3952 [22:58] <lysandergray> I'm just happening to pass by. You can check your JRE version here www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3953 [22:59] <theunwiseman> I'm on version 6, update 20 (which is apparently out of date).
#3954 [22:59] <FlameHead269> oooo
#3955 [22:59] <FlameHead269> hold on guys i know how this is
#3956 [22:59] <FlameHead269> ok
#3957 [22:59] <FlameHead269> well get the (self-extracting file)
#3958 [22:59] <FlameHead269> but
#3959 [23:00] <FlameHead269> if u 64-bit
#3960 [23:00] <FlameHead269> get idk
#3961 [23:00] <FlameHead269> only 32-bit is all i know
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#3963 [23:00] <theunwiseman> I have 64-bit.
#3964 [23:00] <FlameHead269> prob same this
#3965 [23:00] <FlameHead269> well it requires u to have root user acces
#3966 [23:00] <lysandergray> Err I think I should be probably 64-bitting too.
#3967 [23:01] <lysandergray> How does one 64-bit exactly?
#3968 [23:01] <theunwiseman> lysandergray: You install a 64-bit operating system.
#3969 [23:01] <theunwiseman> Your processor must also be 64-bit.
#3970 [23:01] <FlameHead269> >:(
#3971 [23:01] <xales> theunwiseman: yes. use Sun's JRE
#3972 [23:01] <FlameHead269> ):<
#3973 [23:01] <theunwiseman> If you are currently running a 32-bit operating system on a 64-bit processor, there is no way to "upgrade" your OS to 64-bit.
#3974 [23:01] <FlameHead269> i have a 64-bit processor
#3975 [23:01] <theunwiseman> You'd have to do a clean install of the new one.
#3976 [23:01] <FlameHead269> im on 32 bit
#3977 [23:02] <theunwiseman> xales: I'll try that. Brb
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#3979 [23:02] <xales> FlameHead269: please try to hit enter less. a line should be one thought
#3980 [23:03] <theunwiseman> I've downloaded Sun's version, now how do I switch?
#3981 [23:03] <theunwiseman> I used to remember this, but it's been a while.
#3982 [23:03] <lysandergray> Out with the old, in with the new?
#3983 [23:03] <FlameHead269> sorry xales
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#3985 [23:07] <xales> theunwiseman: which distro
#3986 [23:07] <theunwiseman> 10.04
#3987 [23:07] <xales> use update-jre-alternatives on ubuntu
#3988 [23:07] <xales> distro would be ubuntu, not the specific version :\
#3989 [23:07] <theunwiseman> Sorry.
#3990 [23:08] <theunwiseman> That command was not found
#3991 [23:08] <theunwiseman> Wait, typed it wrong.
#3992 [23:08] <theunwiseman> update-java-alternatives
#3993 [23:09] <theunwiseman> update-alternatives: error: alternative /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so for mozilla-javaplugin.so not registered, not setting.
#3994 [23:13] <theunwiseman> So it's not working. :/
#3995 [23:14] <aetherian> ayum leaving
#3996 [23:14] * aetherian is away: gonna watch inception
#3996 [23:15] <theunwiseman> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
#3997 [23:15] <theunwiseman> fixed that problem.
#3998 [23:16] <theunwiseman> Yes! It worked.
#3999 [23:17] <theunwiseman> In Firefox, anyway. But I can deal without Chrome for at least one purpose.
#4000 [23:17] <theunwiseman> Thanks, xales.
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#4003 [23:17] <xales> no problem
#4004 [23:29] <Kealper> wow...it's only 11:30 pm...feels later
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#4006 [23:30] <Xaldi> Hello.
#4007 [23:30] <Kealper> hi
#4008 [23:30] <Xaldi> I am having an issue, obviously.
#4009 [23:31] <Kealper> well, this channel could be your solution :P
#4010 [23:31] <Kealper> what's the issue?
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#4012 [23:31] <Xaldi> My friend and I enjoy playing Minecraft via LAN, but we experience horrible lag, blocks respawning after being mined, or disappearing after being placed, walking forward then teleporting back to where you were a while ago, etc.
#4013 [23:31] <Baseball> Kealper
#4014 [23:31] <Kealper> Baseball: yes?
#4015 [23:32] <Baseball> You're special (big shiny star) right?
#4016 [23:32] <Kealper> you could say that, lol
#4017 [23:32] <xales> Xaldi: umm
#4018 [23:32] <xales> what are the specs of the computer running the server
#4019 [23:32] <Kealper> Xaldi: did anything change with the server?
#4020 [23:32] <Baseball> Well I was wondering how I would buy minecraft because it's messed up atm
#4021 [23:33] <Kealper> Baseball: messed up? last i checked everything was working...what problem are you having?
#4022 [23:33] <Xaldi> Note: It's always been like this, since we started, it is better sometimes than other times, but it's never good.
#4023 [23:33] <Baseball> Can't tick the box for read the stuff
#4024 [23:33] <Kealper> O.o
#4025 [23:33] <Baseball> Therefor, I can't buy it
#4026 [23:33] * Kealper checks it out
#4026 [23:33] <Kealper> also Baseball what browser are you using?
#4027 [23:34] <Baseball> Uhh
#4028 [23:34] <Baseball> WIE
#4029 [23:34] <Kealper> hmm...
#4030 [23:35] <Xaldi> I am asking my friend to look up the specs on his computer, because it's the one we usually host on, dual core 2.26GHZ, 4GB ram, umm, gotta look up the Video Card, or does that matter for hosting?
#4031 [23:35] <Kealper> should not matter for hosting, the server does not use the raphics card
#4032 [23:35] <Kealper> graphics*
#4033 [23:36] <Kealper> Baseball: i can check the box fine under Firefox
#4034 [23:36] <Kealper> let me try in IE
#4035 [23:36] <Xaldi> So is there any other specs you guys need? I mean, we're not trying to host online or anything, just a LAN server for us to play on
#4036 [23:36] <Baseball> K
#4037 [23:36] <Kealper> Xaldi: so, both of you lag? or just the host?
#4038 [23:37] <xales> Xaldi: you are connected to a real LAN? not like, hamachi or something?
#4039 [23:37] <Xaldi> Both of us, I get worse lag (I'm connecting to him) then he does, but it's really bad for both of us.
#4040 [23:38] <Xaldi> Yes, real lag, we're in the same room, hardwire vs. wireless makes no different
#4041 [23:38] <Xaldi> difference&
#4042 [23:38] <Xaldi> difference&
#4043 [23:38] <Xaldi> *
#4044 [23:38] * KillSpammer [KillSpammer@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4045 [23:38] <Kealper> Baseball: hmm..seems to work fine under IE, too :/
#4046 [23:38] <xales> kealpy, accept the DCC please
#4047 [23:38] <Kealper> xales: 1 sec
#4048 [23:38] <xales> chat, not file :P
#4049 [23:38] <KillSpammer> Hi
#4050 [23:39] <xales> ello
#4051 [23:39] <Kealper> and i accept that how? dang i need to hit the docs more
#4052 [23:39] <xales> look at status window
#4053 [23:39] <xales> it should tell you
#4054 [23:40] <xales> I think just /dcc chat xales
#4055 [23:40] <Xaldi> We also get errors starting the server.
#4056 [23:40] <xales> Xaldi: what errors
#4057 [23:40] <Baseball> Kealper
#4058 [23:40] <Baseball> This link? http://www.minecraft.net/prepurchase.jsp
#4059 [23:40] <sinedeviance> so
#4060 [23:40] <sinedeviance> how many mods do you guys use?
#4061 [23:40] <Xaldi> [SEVERE] Unexpected exception
#4062 [23:40] <Xaldi> java.lang.NullPointerException
#4063 [23:40] <KillSpammer> !paid DarkJonez
#4064 [23:40] <KillSpammer> Yay he got his account :)
#4065 [23:40] <sinedeviance> (not asking for support. just making conversation)
#4066 [23:40] <sinedeviance> !paid sinedeviance
#4067 [23:40] <xales> sinedeviance: I know
#4068 [23:41] <Baseball> Means it doesn't check for null in that situation Xaldi
#4069 [23:41] <xales> Xaldi: that means something is corrupt
#4070 [23:41] <Kealper> yes Baseball, that box works fine for me
#4071 [23:41] <sinedeviance> !paid GlaDOS
#4072 [23:41] <Baseball> Xaldi
#4073 [23:41] <xales> !disable
#4074 [23:41] <Baseball> Did that shut it down?
#4075 [23:41] <xales> Kealper, you broke the toggle now
#4076 [23:41] <Kealper> Baseball: do you know how to run Internet Explorer in Safe-Mode?
#4077 [23:41] <Xaldi> Then it shows a ton of at fm.b(sourcefileXX)
#4078 [23:41] <Super_Meat_Boy> ffuuu
#4079 [23:41] <Baseball> It's fine as long as the exception was caught
#4080 [23:41] <Kealper> did i?
#4081 [23:41] <sinedeviance> !paid xales
#4082 [23:41] <Baseball> Uhh nope
#4083 [23:41] <xales> well, the verboseness anyway
#4084 [23:41] <sinedeviance> you dirty pirate! :D
#4085 [23:41] <Kealper> hmm
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#4087 [23:41] <xales> Xaldi: the map is corrupt
#4088 [23:42] <KillSpammer> Actually no
#4089 [23:42] <KillSpammer> The bot stuffed up
#4090 [23:42] <Kealper> Baseball: let me confirm this before i tell you, 1 sec
#4091 [23:42] <KillSpammer> Its gives a message if they haven
#4092 [23:42] <Xaldi> The map? Or the server?
#4093 [23:42] <Baseball> Ok
#4094 [23:42] <KillSpammer> 't
#4095 [23:42] <sinedeviance> KillSpammer: i know, i was pulling his chain
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#4097 [23:42] <xales> Xaldi: the map, most likely
#4098 [23:42] <Baseball> Xaldi
#4099 [23:42] <Baseball> What did the exception effect
#4100 [23:42] <xales> Baseball: its one of the chunks getting a NPE
#4101 [23:43] <xales> !enable
#4102 [23:43] <Baseball> Report that
#4103 [23:43] <xales> Baseball: its not a bug
#4104 [23:43] <Baseball> Yeah it is
#4105 [23:43] <xales> nope
#4106 [23:43] <Baseball> It needs to have a check for null
#4107 [23:43] <Kealper> ok, that will do... Baseball what versio of windows are you running?
#4108 [23:43] <xales> its because the chunk is corrupt
#4109 [23:43] <Baseball> Or at least catch the exception
#4110 [23:43] <xales> they know about it
#4111 [23:43] <xales> believe me...lol
#4112 [23:43] <Baseball> vista
#4113 [23:43] <Xaldi> Apparently that error happened today, and our map is corrupt, but the lag has been going on longer than the errors, we got Server Time Out errors before though.
#4114 [23:43] <KillSpammer> 3000+ Tweets about it...
#4115 [23:44] <xales> Xaldi: it is likely a hardware issue then
#4116 [23:44] <KART35|iPod> wait wat?
#4117 [23:44] <KART35|iPod> servers are v
#4118 [23:44] <Xaldi> "[WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?"
#4119 [23:44] <xales> Xaldi: don't have anything on the computer open except minecraft and the server
#4120 [23:44] <KART35|iPod> corrupting files?*
#4121 [23:44] <Kealper> Xaldi: ignore that, everyoen gets it
#4122 [23:44] <xales> also, that is normal
#4123 [23:44] <xales> Kealper: the DCC times out D:
#4124 [23:44] <xales> just /dcc chat xales
#4125 [23:45] <Kealper> Baseball: sorry, didn't see your response, click on the start button, and type "internet" into the search bar
#4126 [23:45] <Xaldi> What type of hardware are people supposed to be sporting for this?
#4127 [23:45] <sinedeviance> !paid Sqozza
#4128 [23:45] <Kealper> look for Internet Explorer (no addons) and run that
#4129 [23:45] <Baseball> Yes and?
#4130 [23:45] <Baseball> K
#4131 [23:45] <Kealper> then try buying it with that
#4132 [23:45] <xales> Xaldi: you need at least 2gb of ram if you are running windows, and a dual core processor at least 2.5ghz
#4133 [23:45] <xales> 2gb of ram is bare minimum
#4134 [23:46] <xales> Kealper, seriously >.>
#4135 [23:46] <xales> DCC please
#4136 [23:46] * KART35|iPod reccomends linux; java likes it better
#4136 [23:46] <Kealper> xales: with the DCC, probably the militaristic firewall on this server, 1 sec
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#4138 [23:46] <Xaldi> I have 4GB and 2.57GHZ on my machine, I have tried hosting before with similar issues, but I will try again.
#4139 [23:46] <xales> Xaldi: is your machine the one running the server?
#4140 [23:46] <Kealper`> ok xales, this one
#4141 [23:46] <KART35|iPod> should be plenty
#4142 [23:47] <xales> change the nick
#4143 [23:47] <xales> kealper2
#4144 [23:47] <Xaldi> Xales: Generally no, I am going to try now.
#4145 [23:47] <xales> I can't put ` in a command
#4146 [23:47] <xales> Xaldi: also, make sure that any antivirus or firewall is disabled. an exception is not good enough
#4147 [23:47] <Baseball> I'm guessing Minecraft will murder my laptop
#4148 [23:47] <Kealper> Baseball: depends, what is your laptop? lol
#4149 [23:47] <KillSpammer> A minecraft server would
#4150 [23:48] <KillSpammer> But minecraft should run easily on most systems
#4151 [23:48] <KillSpammer> I'm playing it right now on a pentium 4.
#4152 [23:48] <KART35|iPod> as long as its not a netbook
#4153 [23:48] <KART35|iPod> it should do ok
#4154 [23:48] <Baseball> 3gb RAM 2 ghz
#4155 [23:48] <Baseball> Dead? :D
#4156 [23:49] <KART35|iPod> dont think so
#4157 [23:49] <Baseball> The no add ons didn't help either
#4158 [23:49] <KART35|iPod> shouod get at least 20 fps
#4159 [23:49] <KART35|iPod> wat0.o
#4160 [23:49] <Kealper> Baseball: probably not, assuming it's graphics chip is half way decent
#4161 [23:50] <Baseball> Don't think it is
#4162 [23:50] <KART35|iPod> what kind?
#4163 [23:50] <KART35|iPod> intel?
#4164 [23:50] <KillSpammer> Lol
#4165 [23:50] <KillSpammer> Check #minecraft
#4166 [23:50] <KillSpammer> Its hell in there
#4167 [23:50] <KART35|iPod> it /is/ a laptop
#4168 [23:50] <Kealper> as long as it's not an intel gma950 it should work
#4169 [23:51] <Baseball> Ehh
#4170 [23:51] <KillSpammer> Lol
#4171 [23:51] <Xaldi> I am hosting and right now we are not experiencing lag, thanks for the help.
#4172 [23:51] <KART35|iPod> it has that doesnt it....
#4173 [23:51] <Kealper> lol
#4174 [23:52] <Xaldi> I might be back if we experience some issues, we have had spikes of perfect but they are rare, hoping this works out.
#4175 [23:52] <xales> Xaldi: good luck
#4176 [23:52] <xales> KillSpammer: it always is
#4177 [23:52] <xales> hopefully this will be fixed tomorrow
#4178 [23:52] <Kealper> one can only hope
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#4180 [23:57] <KillSpammer> And all is well...
#4181 [23:57] <KillSpammer> And quiet
#4182 [23:58] <KART35|iPod> no garuntees for that
#4183 [23:58] <KART35|iPod> you n
#4184 [23:58] <KART35|iPod> just know that someone is going to come inhere
#4185 [23:58] <KART35|iPod> and ask the same question
#4186 [23:59] <xales> "how duz i run uh survur"
#4187 [23:59] <KART35|iPod> or something related to java on ubuntu
#4188 [23:59] <KART35|iPod> that too
#4189 [23:59] <KillSpammer> Or
#4190 [23:59] <KillSpammer> I HAZ AN HERRO
#4191 [23:59] <KillSpammer> halp
#4192 [23:59] <KillSpammer> All i can really do at the moment is watch the other helpers
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#4194 [23:59] <xales> my favorite thing
#4195 [23:59] <xales> was the guy who pasted an error dump
#4196 [23:59] <KillSpammer> Because i dont know how to fix most of the errors ;S
#4197 [23:59] <xales> in the channel