#1 [00:00] <magik> but it was the reddit effect that really killed it
#2 [00:00] <lemon-rev> that will teach you, but at least you know how, so you can like carge to get onto your server mayhap
#3 [00:00] <magik> haha, i just wanted people to lpay with
#4 [00:00] <magik> i'm not really for charging
#5 [00:00] <magik> if you charge ppl, then you have more responsibillity
#6 [00:00] <lemon-rev> well your pocket :)
#7 [00:00] <lemon-rev> hm
#8 [00:01] <lemon-rev> well only to allow or to keep people on
#9 [00:01] <lemon-rev> :P
#10 [00:01] <magik> the way it is now, i can at least say fuck you all this is my server ;)
#11 [00:01] <magik> i have no obligation to anyone
#12 [00:01] * MooingLemur found the messed up chunk with strace :P
#12 [00:01] <magik> and yeah... EC2 is nice and all - jus tnot suited for this purpose
#13 [00:01] <magik> Mooing? wow really?
#14 [00:01] <magik> i'd be interested in what you did - i've been having some odd chunk corruption
#15 [00:02] <MooingLemur> yeah, found the last open() call before it stopped processing the loading of the spawn area
#16 [00:02] <xales> magik: if it is the thing with the single missing chunk
#17 [00:02] <magik> oh urs crashes
#18 [00:02] <xales> that is a known bug
#19 [00:02] <magik> no it was weird
#20 [00:02] <magik> it wasn't "missing"
#21 [00:02] <magik> it was replaced
#22 [00:02] <magik> with some other chunk
#23 [00:02] <MooingLemur> it doesn't crash, but rather spins spitting out backtraces so fast that my 10000 line scrollback can't hold it no matter how quick I am with the ^C :P
#24 [00:02] <magik> it was weird - it happened right where a wall of this player's house was
#25 [00:02] <magik> so there were torches floating in the air
#26 [00:02] <magik> "mounted" on the air
#27 [00:03] <magik> because the blocks right there got swapped to air, when they were stone b4
#28 [00:03] <magik> lots of blocks had been changed, but not all of them
#29 [00:03] <magik> i found snow on top of a fence
#30 [00:03] <xales> thats a bug
#31 [00:03] <magik> things that used to be smooth stone, replaced with dirt
#32 [00:03] <xales> the chunk failed to send to the client
#33 [00:03] <xales> relogging fixes it
#34 [00:03] <MooingLemur> I'm about to find the last change of that corrupt chunk in my backups and see if it'll play nicely.
#35 [00:03] <magik> didn't fix it
#36 [00:03] <magik> we had 3 ppl there
#37 [00:03] <magik> all seeing the same thing
#38 [00:04] <magik> it's permanent
#39 [00:04] <magik> it's still there now
#40 [00:04] <magik> but with the server getting SIGKILL'd or kill -9'd or whatever
#41 [00:05] <magik> i think it's likely his chunk got fucked
#42 [00:05] <magik> in the middle of a write or something
#43 [00:05] <magik> ungraceful exit and all
#44 [00:05] <xales> oh
#45 [00:05] <xales> maybe that then
#46 [00:05] <MooingLemur> I had six truncated chunks
#47 [00:06] <magik> xales - thanks for all the help so far
#48 [00:06] <magik> i think it was disk IO
#49 [00:06] <xales> no problem
#50 [00:06] <magik> i have 5 people on now
#51 [00:06] <magik> and it was lagging before, but now it isn't
#52 [00:06] <MooingLemur> (gzip stream had garbage afterwards)
#53 [00:06] <MooingLemur> oh wow.. here's the chunk that was blocking the startup
#54 [00:06] <magik> so yeah, thanks for helping me track down that
#55 [00:06] <MooingLemur> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 ssmtp 2098 Jan 9 08:47 aj-20110109-1049/home/troy/minecraftserver/world/1j/1d/c.-9.-f.dat
#56 [00:06] <magik> running this server is such a headache!
#57 [00:06] <MooingLemur> -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 ssmtp 57967 Jan 9 15:53 aj-20110109-2138/home/troy/minecraftserver/world/1j/1d/c.-9.-f.dat
#58 [00:06] <magik> webservers are so nice and easy =(
#59 [00:07] <magik> god, even setting up php5-fpm and nginx was a breeze compared to running this server software
#60 [00:07] <magik> java.... ughhhh
#61 [00:07] <MooingLemur> something happened to it today.. so strange.
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#64 [00:09] <Seth> hi, can anyone help me out?
#65 [00:10] <xales> not in #minecrathelp
#66 [00:10] <xales> what do you need help with?
#67 [00:11] <Seth> well, I am unable to change my texture pack for minecraft, not sure how
#68 [00:11] <xales> you have to install one of the texture packs
#69 [00:11] <xales> then change it in the menu
#70 [00:11] <Seth> in what menu?
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#72 [00:13] <Seth> how can I change the terrain texture for the minecraft classic?
#73 [00:14] <xales> oh, classic?
#74 [00:14] <xales> you can't use texture packs in classic
#75 [00:17] <KillSpammer> Its all done server side sadly...
#76 [00:17] <KillSpammer> Soo...
#77 [00:17] <KillSpammer> Hai!
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#79 [00:18] <Seth> well i have a server
#80 [00:18] <KillSpammer> Wow #minecraft is so weird...
#81 [00:18] <xales> yup
#82 [00:19] <Seth> but i am trying to figure out how to make a png file active
#83 [00:19] <KillSpammer> Swearing here and there...
#84 [00:19] <KillSpammer> I am confused?
#85 [00:19] <KillSpammer> How can a png file be active?
#86 [00:19] <Seth> well, there is a portal tex pack and I have used MCEDIT to test the png, it works fine
#87 [00:20] <xales> texture packs do not work on Classic
#88 [00:20] <KillSpammer> Hmm...
#89 [00:20] <KillSpammer> Wait a second
#90 [00:20] <Seth> well not a texture pack
#91 [00:20] <Seth> just a png file
#92 [00:20] <Seth> I have a portal mod server, trying to get the textures to work
#93 [00:20] <Seth> followed all the doc i can
#94 [00:22] <KillSpammer> Omg..
#95 [00:22] <KillSpammer> I just tried to Bhop in Realm of the mad god...
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#98 [00:30] <Dante77> hi can anyone help me?
#99 [00:31] <lemon-rev> whats up
#100 [00:31] <Dante77> i lost my main world
#101 [00:31] <lemon-rev> hm
#102 [00:31] <lemon-rev> what os you running
#103 [00:31] <Dante77> windows xp
#104 [00:31] <lemon-rev> ok
#105 [00:31] <lemon-rev> did you delete anything
#106 [00:31] <Dante77> no
#107 [00:31] <Dante77> i was playing
#108 [00:31] <lemon-rev> hm
#109 [00:31] <lemon-rev> ?
#110 [00:31] <Dante77> and my computer turned off
#111 [00:31] <lemon-rev> and
#112 [00:32] <Dante77> then when i started minecraft agian
#113 [00:32] <lemon-rev> ok so anything before your computer turned off should have still been there
#114 [00:32] <xales> open it with a map editor
#115 [00:32] <xales> and save it in the map editor
#116 [00:32] <Dante77> k
#117 [00:32] <lemon-rev> hm
#118 [00:32] <lemon-rev> dante
#119 [00:32] <lemon-rev> what map editor did you use
#120 [00:32] <Dante77> none
#121 [00:32] <Dante77> i dont use map editors
#122 [00:32] <lemon-rev> what you mean by save it in map editor
#123 [00:33] <lemon-rev> oh
#124 [00:33] <lemon-rev> sorry xales
#125 [00:33] <lemon-rev> lol
#126 [00:33] <lemon-rev> fuck
#127 [00:33] <lemon-rev> im like reading and like wtf, your there too :)
#128 [00:33] <xales> lol
#129 [00:34] <lemon-rev> look under my documents .minecraft dente
#130 [00:34] <Dante77> ok
#131 [00:34] <xales> its not in my documents
#132 [00:34] <lemon-rev> it is in xp
#133 [00:34] <xales> the map editor should be able to open it
#134 [00:34] <xales> download MCEdit
#135 [00:34] <lemon-rev> hm
#136 [00:34] <xales> lemon-rev: it is in appdata, which is one level out of documents
#137 [00:34] <Dante77> ok i found it
#138 [00:35] <lemon-rev> C:\Documents and Settings\crystal\Application Data\.minecraft < thats my full line into minecraft where as minecraft.exe is on desktop
#139 [00:35] <lemon-rev> ok
#140 [00:35] <lemon-rev> do you have saves
#141 [00:35] <lemon-rev> directory
#142 [00:35] <Dante77> yes
#143 [00:35] <lemon-rev> look in tha
#144 [00:35] <lemon-rev> t
#145 [00:35] <Dante77> its still there
#146 [00:35] <Dante77> world1
#147 [00:35] <lemon-rev> hm
#148 [00:35] <xales> lemon-rev: the issue
#149 [00:35] <xales> is a corrupt save
#150 [00:36] <lemon-rev> ok
#151 [00:36] <xales> not a missing one
#152 [00:36] <lemon-rev> well i had to check as well
#153 [00:36] <xales> Dante77: open the world with MCEdit and save it again
#154 [00:36] <lemon-rev> just to see if it deleted it completely
#155 [00:36] <Dante77> ok
#156 [00:36] <lemon-rev> sorry xales
#157 [00:36] <xales> lol, its fine
#158 [00:36] <lemon-rev> i wasnt sure if minecraft got rid of the directory cause of curruption
#159 [00:36] <xales> Kealper:
#160 [00:36] <xales> Kealper:
#161 [00:36] <xales> Kealper:
#162 [00:36] <xales> Kealper:
#163 [00:36] <lemon-rev> spam
#164 [00:36] <lemon-rev> lol
#165 [00:36] <xales> not really
#166 [00:37] <lemon-rev> started a new world and like found a good cave to build in and then right across found some rock to mine, started on that, and found crap loads of coal like stright away im like oh goodies
#167 [00:38] <lemon-rev> dente you world back ?
#168 [00:39] <Dante77> im downloading mcedit
#169 [00:39] <lemon-rev> sweet
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#171 [00:41] <MooingLemur> do I assume correctly that block position x=-60 z=-70 is in chunk -1.-2?
#172 [00:43] <xales> no idea, I can't remember chunk size off the top of my head
#173 [00:44] <MooingLemur> oh, it's 16x16, not 64x64, duh
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#175 [00:50] * Katsumi needs Minecraft help. Can't get the launcher to run for unknown reasons. Doubleclick the application, the computer makes a failure noise, and nothing happens. No dialogue box to explain why the application won't launch. No nothing. Somebody help me out here? I'm getting desperate.
#175 [00:51] <xales> did you
#176 [00:51] <xales> or rather
#177 [00:51] <xales> do you, have the latest version of Java installed?
#178 [00:51] <Katsumi> I believe I do, yes.
#179 [00:52] <KillSpammer> Lame i didn't get any rum through an entire pirate cave :(
#180 [00:53] <xales> Katsumi: double check
#181 [00:53] <Katsumi> I'm... not entirely sure how to do that.
#182 [00:53] <xales> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
#183 [00:54] <Katsumi> Okay, yes. Java is working and the latest version is installed.
#184 [00:55] <xales> do you have any antivirus software
#185 [00:55] <Katsumi> I do. I use Avast! Antivirus.
#186 [00:56] <Katsumi> As well as the ZoneAlarm firewall.
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#188 [00:56] <xales> disable both
#189 [00:56] <Dante77> ok world1 reappeared
#190 [00:56] <Dante77> but
#191 [00:56] <Dante77> it says
#192 [00:56] <Dante77> (0.00 MB)
#193 [00:57] <lemon-rev> ewww
#194 [00:57] <lemon-rev> well you can always try doing something now your world is back
#195 [00:57] <xales> then your world is completely corrupted, if it doesn't load
#196 [00:57] <xales> and there is nothing you can do about that
#197 [00:57] <xales> other than taking, in the future, taking measures against it happening again
#198 [00:57] <xales> such as backing up your world or fixing whatever made the computer crash
#199 [01:01] <Katsumi> Okay, I tried disabling both the antivirus and the firewall, and it didn't work.
#200 [01:02] <xales> can you run it in the browser?
#201 [01:02] * Katsumi will give it a try.
#201 [01:03] <Katsumi> Yes, it appears to be working just fine in the browser.
#202 [01:05] <xales> try redownloading the .exe
#203 [01:05] <xales> if you really want to use it
#204 [01:05] <xales> otherwise, just play in the browser
#205 [01:05] <Katsumi> I do. The browser version appears to be uncontrollably laggy, with lots of framerate stutter.
#206 [01:05] <xales> I don't think the .exe will fix that
#207 [01:06] <xales> what are the specs on your computer?
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#209 [01:07] <Katsumi> I don't know the exact specs, but they're pretty high end. 4 GB ram, Nvidia GTX 285 graphics card. 2.3 ghz dual-core processor...
#210 [01:07] <xales> what browser?
#211 [01:08] <xales> and you are running Windows, I assume?
#212 [01:08] <Katsumi> Chrome, and Windows XP.
#213 [01:09] <xales> download this and do a full scan
#214 [01:09] <xales> http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam-download.php
#215 [01:10] <Katsumi> Okay.
#216 [01:13] <Katsumi> ... This is going to take a while, isn't it. :(
#217 [01:14] <xales> probably
#218 [01:14] <xales> but its always good to do that like, once a month
#219 [01:14] <Katsumi> Nuts.
#220 [01:14] <Katsumi> Oh well, I guess it can't be helped...
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#225 [01:30] <Miniviper> hi
#226 [01:31] <xales> hi
#227 [01:32] <Miniviper> sup
#228 [01:32] <xales> nothing really
#229 [01:32] <Miniviper> guess what
#230 [01:33] <Miniviper> i HATE java
#231 [01:33] <xales> who doesn't
#232 [01:33] <Miniviper> java bla bla cant run
#233 [01:33] <xales> ?
#234 [01:33] <Miniviper> I cant play anything related to minecraft
#235 [01:34] <xales> do you get an error?
#236 [01:35] <Miniviper> yeah
#237 [01:35] <xales> what is the error
#238 [01:36] <Miniviper> could not create the java virtual machine
#239 [01:36] <xales> do you have java installed?
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#241 [01:36] <Katsumi> I wonder if this could be related to my issue...?
#242 [01:36] <pachuco> ah the minecreft help
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#244 [01:36] <pachuco> i just downloaded the minecraft launcher
#245 [01:36] <pachuco> but it says i need to play online once to enable offline
#246 [01:36] <Miniviper> yeah I have jva
#247 [01:37] <xales> Miniviper: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
#248 [01:37] <pachuco> on the website i go online but it wont work so
#249 [01:37] <pachuco> how do i enable offline?
#250 [01:37] <xales> pachuco: what is your username
#251 [01:37] <pachuco> single player
#252 [01:37] <pachuco> traxgod
#253 [01:38] <xales> !paid traxgod
#254 [01:38] <xales> did you buy the game?
#255 [01:38] <pachuco> i havent tried to game yet so why would i buy it yet
#256 [01:38] <pachuco> they had some beta on the website
#257 [01:38] <Miniviper> >.>
#258 [01:38] <pachuco> i tried that
#259 [01:39] <pachuco> i dont know if the game is fun so imma not buy it yet
#260 [01:39] <Miniviper> trust me... the game rules
#261 [01:39] <pachuco> !give traxgod girlfriend
#262 [01:39] <pachuco> they al say
#263 [01:39] <Miniviper> I played on my friends profile and it rules
#264 [01:39] <pachuco> or me reason to leave the hardcore fps and try it out
#265 [01:39] <pachuco> but yeh the launcher is anoying i have to play online to activate offline play
#266 [01:39] <xales> you have to buy it to play
#267 [01:40] <pachuco> tried the website online version
#268 [01:40] <pachuco> doesnt work
#269 [01:40] <xales> beta is for people who purchase it only
#270 [01:40] <pachuco> ok
#271 [01:40] <pachuco> its not in stores right?
#272 [01:40] <xales> look at youtube videos
#273 [01:40] <pachuco> its virtual purchase only
#274 [01:40] <xales> that is correct, it is not in stores
#275 [01:40] <pachuco> well i dont have any creditcard /paypal blah blah blah
#276 [01:40] <pachuco> sad face
#277 [01:40] <pachuco> thepiratebay.org.. .....
#278 [01:40] <Miniviper> that place fails...
#279 [01:41] <pachuco> wel its for free there so
#280 [01:41] <Miniviper> thePIRATEbay.org
#281 [01:41] <Miniviper> hint PIRATE
#282 [01:41] <xales> that is illegal
#283 [01:41] <pachuco> i know
#284 [01:41] <xales> you can go to jail for playing it from there, you know that right?
#285 [01:41] <pachuco> but i dont have any resource of buying the game
#286 [01:41] <pachuco> no creditcard
#287 [01:41] <xales> literally thrown in jail
#288 [01:41] <Miniviper> friends
#289 [01:41] <pachuco> or anything to buy online with
#290 [01:41] <pachuco> my mom also doesnt have
#291 [01:41] <pachuco> no one here has
#292 [01:41] <pachuco> they just have bank account and a wallet
#293 [01:41] <Katsumi> Not having monetary recourse to purchase things is not an excuse for theft.
#294 [01:42] <pachuco> why not
#295 [01:42] <pachuco> its the only option to play so far i see it
#296 [01:42] <xales> "I didn't have money so I stole some food from the grocery"
#297 [01:42] <Miniviper> ha
#298 [01:42] <xales> does that sound right?
#299 [01:42] <pachuco> no
#300 [01:42] <Miniviper> to me it does
#301 [01:42] <Miniviper> XD
#302 [01:42] <pachuco> i dont have a paymethod to play online
#303 [01:42] <xales> it is the same thing, pachuco
#304 [01:42] <pachuco> ii mean
#305 [01:42] <pachuco> no payment method to buy it
#306 [01:42] <Katsumi> This is not Les Miserable. Stealing because you can't afford to buy is still wrong.
#307 [01:42] <pachuco> so then just dont buy it if u cant
#308 [01:43] <pachuco> I CAN efford it..
#309 [01:43] <pachuco> i got gaming keyboard g19 blah blah etc etc
#310 [01:43] <pachuco> ofc i can efford minecraft
#311 [01:43] <xales> being incapable of buying something
#312 [01:43] <xales> does not give you the right to steal
#313 [01:43] <xales> if you want it that badly, get a debit card
#314 [01:43] <xales> they are free
#315 [01:43] <pachuco> i just dont have a creditcard to purchase via the internet
#316 [01:43] <xales> or link your paypal account to a bank account
#317 [01:43] <pachuco> thats what i wanna do paypal
#318 [01:44] <Katsumi> What it boils down to is:
#319 [01:44] <Katsumi> Don't steal this game.
#320 [01:44] <Miniviper> right
#321 [01:44] <Katsumi> It's a wonderful game, and the creators deserve your support.
#322 [01:44] <Miniviper> if you bite something you tend to get bit back
#323 [01:45] <Katsumi> Stealing it would be doing them a terrible disservice.
#324 [01:45] <Miniviper> *hint* karma *hint*
#325 [01:45] <pachuco> if it was in store or u could do acceptgiro to buy it cash its ok
#326 [01:45] <KART35|iPod> or
#327 [01:45] <xales> keep in mind
#328 [01:45] <xales> that IRC exposes you to hackers
#329 [01:45] <KART35|iPod> you could get a friend to buy a gift code
#330 [01:45] <xales> and I can trace your IP and give it to the police, if you persist in pirating
#331 [01:45] <KART35|iPod> and pay them cash
#332 [01:46] <xales> I know that you live near Amsterdam
#333 [01:46] <xales> :)
#334 [01:46] <Miniviper> lol xales
#335 [01:46] <KART35|iPod> ip15-213-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl
#336 [01:47] <KART35|iPod> .nl = netherlands
#337 [01:47] <Miniviper> where do I live?
#338 [01:47] <KART35|iPod> geo ip
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#340 [01:47] <KART35|iPod> take your public ip in
#341 [01:47] <KART35|iPod> get location out
#342 [01:47] <xales> Portland, Oregon
#343 [01:47] <Miniviper> nope
#344 [01:47] <KART35|iPod> well
#345 [01:47] <KART35|iPod> its approxamate
#346 [01:48] <KART35|iPod> and if youre using a proxy
#347 [01:48] <Miniviper> anyways... close!
#348 [01:48] <KART35|iPod> it shows the proxy location
#349 [01:48] <Miniviper> nope no proxy here or even private
#350 [01:48] <KART35|iPod> so you live somewhere in oregon then?
#351 [01:48] <Miniviper> teach me your hacking powars! XD
#352 [01:48] <Miniviper> yup
#353 [01:48] <KART35|iPod> mhmm
#354 [01:48] <Miniviper> oregon kinda sucks lol
#355 [01:49] <KART35|iPod> well
#356 [01:49] <Miniviper> so much rain and rain and more rain
#357 [01:49] <KART35|iPod> its not hacking
#358 [01:49] <xales> Miniviper: http://www.maxmind.com/app/locate_demo_ip?ips=184-100-239-225.ptld.qwest.net
#359 [01:49] <KART35|iPod> just gettig a result form a website
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#361 [01:49] <Miniviper> lol
#362 [01:50] <Miniviper> im still trying to get my friend to buy me minecraft...
#363 [01:50] <KART35|iPod> pay im back and you shouldnt have a prob
#364 [01:50] <xales> also, if I may suggest
#365 [01:50] <xales> get a client other than Mibbit
#366 [01:51] <xales> Mibbit is a total piece of shit
#367 [01:51] <Miniviper> eh its free and idk lol
#368 [01:51] <KART35|iPod> mirc is ok imho
#369 [01:51] <KART35|iPod> quassel is good for ubuntu users
#370 [01:51] <Miniviper> hmmm I NEED SLEEP! 10:51pm... school tomorrow... :(
#371 [01:51] <KART35|iPod> 52*
#372 [01:52] <xales> they are all free
#373 [01:52] <xales> for the most part
#374 [01:52] <Miniviper> 52 me!
#375 [01:52] <Miniviper> it was 51 while I was typing
#376 [01:52] <Miniviper> XD
#377 [01:52] <KART35|iPod> mirc nags you if you dont register
#378 [01:52] <KART35|iPod> but thats it
#379 [01:52] <xales> mirc is decent
#380 [01:52] <xales> not good
#381 [01:52] <xales> ._.
#382 [01:52] <xales> its easy for beginners...but thats about it
#383 [01:52] <KART35|iPod> yep
#384 [01:53] <KART35|iPod> however
#385 [01:53] <KART35|iPod> terminal based irc
#386 [01:53] <KART35|iPod> pros only
#387 [01:53] <Miniviper> So I need some help here...
#388 [01:53] <KART35|iPod> ok
#389 [01:53] <KART35|iPod> shoot
#390 [01:53] <Miniviper> Big problem
#391 [01:54] <Miniviper> I dont have minecraft....
#392 [01:54] <Miniviper> lol XD
#393 [01:54] <xales> buy it
#394 [01:54] <xales> O_o
#395 [01:54] <KART35|iPod> and you dont have a credit card right?
#396 [01:54] <Miniviper> no
#397 [01:54] <KART35|iPod> well
#398 [01:54] <KART35|iPod> pay someone you know who does
#399 [01:54] <Miniviper> all my friends say buy it
#400 [01:54] <xales> or parents
#401 [01:54] <Miniviper> I want to....
#402 [01:55] <Miniviper> parents=no
#403 [01:55] <KART35|iPod> so its that way eh?
#404 [01:55] <KART35|iPod> wait
#405 [01:55] <KART35|iPod> idea
#406 [01:55] <Miniviper> my parents divoriced and my mom uses states funding
#407 [01:55] <KART35|iPod> you have finals soon (if youre in high school)?
#408 [01:55] <KART35|iPod> oh
#409 [01:56] <KART35|iPod> well
#410 [01:56] <Miniviper> yeah im a freshmen
#411 [01:56] <KART35|iPod> my plan probably wont work then
#412 [01:56] <Miniviper> what is it
#413 [01:56] <KART35|iPod> i was going to say, that if you could cut a deal with em
#414 [01:56] <KART35|iPod> that if you do well on your finals
#415 [01:56] <KART35|iPod> tjat they could buy it for you
#416 [01:57] <KART35|iPod> that*
#417 [01:57] <Miniviper> I know a way to get the game on your computer using skype then play using a friends username but thats illegal XD
#418 [01:57] <Miniviper> yeah that wont work...
#419 [01:57] <KART35|iPod> well
#420 [01:58] <KART35|iPod> explain yoir situation to a friend
#421 [01:58] <KART35|iPod> and they might byluy you a gift code
#422 [01:58] <KART35|iPod> buy*
#423 [01:58] <Miniviper> I might just do that....
#424 [01:58] <Miniviper> but another problem
#425 [01:58] <KART35|iPod> hate the tiny keyboard on this...
#426 [01:58] <Miniviper> my computer majorly sucks
#427 [01:58] <KART35|iPod> yeah!
#428 [01:58] <KART35|iPod> *?
#429 [01:58] <KART35|iPod> ok
#430 [01:58] <Miniviper> its like 8 years old
#431 [01:58] <Miniviper> no sound
#432 [01:58] <KART35|iPod> specs
#433 [01:58] <Miniviper> idk...
#434 [01:59] <KART35|iPod> hmm
#435 [01:59] <Miniviper> I forgot how to check
#436 [01:59] <KART35|iPod> running windows xp i guess?
#437 [01:59] <xales> http://www.piriform.com/speccy/download/standard
#438 [01:59] <xales> easy mod
#439 [01:59] <xales> e
#440 [01:59] <Miniviper> ya
#441 [01:59] <KART35|iPod> hmm
#442 [02:00] <KART35|iPod> start menu > right click on computer > properties
#443 [02:00] <KART35|iPod> (i think)
#444 [02:00] <xales> Miniviper: download what I pasted
#445 [02:00] <xales> it will tell you really easily
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#447 [02:02] <Miniviper> hmmm
#448 [02:02] <Miniviper> waiting...
#449 [02:02] <xales> mini
#450 [02:03] <xales> download that program
#451 [02:03] <Miniviper> yeah i am
#452 [02:03] <xales> oh
#453 [02:03] <xales> its not that big, is it? :/
#454 [02:03] <Miniviper> no
#455 [02:03] <Miniviper> I just lots of stuff going on
#456 [02:03] <xales> I see
#457 [02:03] <Miniviper> MS Windows XP Professional 32-bit SP3
#458 [02:04] <KART35|iPod> ok
#459 [02:04] <Miniviper> Venice 90nm Technology
#460 [02:04] <Miniviper> AMD Athlon 64 3800+
#461 [02:04] <Miniviper> 1.0GB Dual-Channel DDR @ 198MHz (3-3-3-8)
#462 [02:04] <Miniviper> ASUSTek Computer INC. Amberine (Socket 939)
#463 [02:04] <Miniviper> hp f1503 @ 1024x768 256MB Radeon X1300/X1550 Series (MSI) 256MB Radeon X1300/X1550 Series Secondary (MSI) CrossFire Disabled
#464 [02:04] <xales> yeah, unfortunately
#465 [02:04] <Miniviper> Realtek AC'97 Audio
#466 [02:04] <xales> that won't run minecraft :/
#467 [02:04] <Miniviper> Thought so
#468 [02:04] <Miniviper> 8 years old
#469 [02:05] <xales> not 8 years
#470 [02:05] <KART35|iPod> how fast is that processor?
#471 [02:05] <xales> probably more like 5
#472 [02:05] <Miniviper> idk...
#473 [02:05] <KART35|iPod> gfx looks decent
#474 [02:05] <xales> Miniviper: click the CPU tab
#475 [02:05] <KART35|iPod> memory is marginal
#476 [02:05] <Miniviper> and..... then what
#477 [02:05] <xales> that card, KART35|iPod
#478 [02:05] <Miniviper> Bus Speed 199.0 MHz
#479 [02:05] <xales> won't do it
#480 [02:06] <xales> Miniviper: not bus speed
#481 [02:06] <xales> Core speed
#482 [02:06] <xales> or core clock or whatever
#483 [02:06] <Miniviper> Core Speed 2387.9 MHz
#484 [02:06] <KART35|iPod> 2.3ghz?
#485 [02:06] <KART35|iPod> not bad
#486 [02:06] <xales> what is the number of cores
#487 [02:06] <xales> at the top
#488 [02:07] <Miniviper> Cores 1
#489 [02:07] <KART35|iPod> minimal graphics /might/ work
#490 [02:07] <Miniviper> lol might
#491 [02:07] <KART35|iPod> a netbook gets 10 fps max with a pagefile and 1 ghz cpu with one core
#492 [02:08] <KART35|iPod> and when i say page file
#493 [02:08] <Miniviper> well... you see.... my dad has a old laptop but I think its newer than this computer
#494 [02:08] <KART35|iPod> i mean no ram
#495 [02:08] <Miniviper> im trying to get it from him
#496 [02:08] <KART35|iPod> and the pagefile is only liek
#497 [02:08] <KART35|iPod> 500mb or so
#498 [02:08] <Miniviper> but yeah this is 8 years old I mean thats how long ive had it
#499 [02:09] <Miniviper> I got it from some guy that was moving
#500 [02:09] <Miniviper> I found "things" on it....
#501 [02:09] <Miniviper> and deleted thousands of "things"
#502 [02:09] <KART35|iPod> oh
#503 [02:10] <KART35|iPod> was that kind of guy?
#504 [02:10] <Miniviper> yeah
#505 [02:10] <KART35|iPod> yep. welcome to ...
#506 [02:10] <KART35|iPod> erm... well
#507 [02:11] <KART35|iPod> how the hell do i say this?
#508 [02:11] <Miniviper> just say it
#509 [02:11] <KART35|iPod> the shithole known as life?
#510 [02:11] <Miniviper> I found a file named weird like lkj32 clicked on it...watched for like 2 minutes... then I WAS LIKE WOW!
#511 [02:11] <Miniviper> traced the source
#512 [02:11] <Miniviper> deleted all
#513 [02:12] <Miniviper> lol
#514 [02:13] <Miniviper> derp
#515 [02:13] <KART35|iPod> and then emptied the recycle bin?
#516 [02:13] <Miniviper> yup
#517 [02:13] <Miniviper> well most of it was in the making...
#518 [02:13] <Miniviper> like to folders
#519 [02:13] <Miniviper> done
#520 [02:13] <Miniviper> and not done
#521 [02:13] <Miniviper> v.v
#522 [02:14] <KART35|iPod> i would have just wiped the drive
#523 [02:14] <Miniviper> I was scared
#524 [02:14] <Miniviper> idk how to
#525 [02:14] <KART35|iPod> and installed linux
#526 [02:14] <KART35|iPod> well
#527 [02:14] <KART35|iPod> download an ubuntu iso from their website
#528 [02:14] <KART35|iPod> (quite large file)
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#530 [02:15] <KART35|iPod> then use other software from the internet to burn that iso to a cd
#531 [02:15] <Miniviper> idk... I have so much on this file
#532 [02:15] <KART35|iPod> then boot from the cd
#533 [02:15] <KART35|iPod> and install ubuntu
#534 [02:15] <Miniviper> I just want a new computer
#535 [02:16] <KART35|iPod> but you'd end up with linux, wich can only run windows stuff with WINE
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#537 [02:17] <KART35|iPod> ive built a decent computer for about $300
#538 [02:17] <KART35|iPod> but if i hadnt reused parts
#539 [02:17] <KART35|iPod> it wkuldve been about...
#540 [02:17] <Miniviper> I have another ummm
#541 [02:17] <Miniviper> hardrive?
#542 [02:17] <Miniviper> no
#543 [02:17] <KART35|iPod> $450 ish
#544 [02:18] <Miniviper> I cant name it...but the main part of the computer
#545 [02:18] <KART35|iPod> CPU?
#546 [02:18] <Miniviper> the box
#547 [02:18] <xales> case?
#548 [02:18] <Miniviper> kinda
#549 [02:18] <Miniviper> I have a hp thing
#550 [02:18] <xales> because those are usually the cheapest part of a build >.>
#551 [02:18] <Miniviper> right now
#552 [02:19] <KART35|iPod> xales: case is optional if you know what ur doing
#553 [02:19] <Miniviper> and I have dell one(old and filled with music)
#554 [02:19] <Miniviper> not sure how old it is though
#555 [02:20] <Miniviper> the whole component... like fan CPU power etc
#556 [02:20] <xales> lol
#557 [02:20] <KART35|iPod> oh
#558 [02:20] <xales> that is a computer, Miniviper
#559 [02:20] <xales> then
#560 [02:20] <KART35|iPod> a whole computer without monitor?
#561 [02:20] <xales> ._.
#562 [02:20] <Miniviper> yeah I guess
#563 [02:20] <Miniviper> I called it a computer but my friends say no
#564 [02:20] <KART35|iPod> ...
#565 [02:20] <KART35|iPod> must be ancient then
#566 [02:20] <Miniviper> I have another computer but not hooked up
#567 [02:21] <Miniviper> what do you mean
#568 [02:21] <KART35|iPod> so old its not considered a computer D:
#569 [02:21] <Miniviper> it is
#570 [02:21] <xales> or your friend was wrong
#571 [02:21] <xales> lol
#572 [02:21] <Miniviper> brb
#573 [02:25] <Miniviper> k
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#575 [02:25] <Miniviper> back
#576 [02:25] <Miniviper> its a bit old dell
#577 [02:25] <KART35|iPod> ok
#578 [02:25] <KART35|iPod> so
#579 [02:25] <Miniviper> not sure though
#580 [02:25] <Miniviper> doesnt say
#581 [02:25] <KART35|iPod> does it even have a cd drive?
#582 [02:25] <Miniviper> yeah
#583 [02:25] <KART35|iPod> ok
#584 [02:25] <KART35|iPod> so it isnt ancient
#585 [02:26] <KART35|iPod> how about dvd?
#586 [02:26] <Miniviper> not sure
#587 [02:26] <Miniviper> brb agaiiiiiiiiiiiin
#588 [02:26] <KART35|iPod> lol
#589 [02:27] <Miniviper> k
#590 [02:27] <Miniviper> it only has two disc drives
#591 [02:27] <Miniviper> and one um
#592 [02:27] <Miniviper> square drive thing
#593 [02:27] <xales> most computers have one. dell is stupid crazy like that
#594 [02:27] <Miniviper> crap I keep forgetting names
#595 [02:28] <KART35|iPod> square drive?
#596 [02:28] <xales> floppy
#597 [02:28] <Miniviper> YES
#598 [02:28] <Miniviper> floppy
#599 [02:28] <KART35|iPod> hmm
#600 [02:28] <KART35|iPod> old
#601 [02:28] <Miniviper> yup
#602 [02:28] <Miniviper> but how old
#603 [02:28] <KART35|iPod> but not extremely
#604 [02:28] <xales> what is the model number
#605 [02:28] <Miniviper> made after 00?
#606 [02:28] <xales> on it
#607 [02:28] <KART35|iPod> if it were extremely old
#608 [02:29] <KART35|iPod> id have a tape drive
#609 [02:29] <Miniviper> eww
#610 [02:30] <Miniviper> hmmm model number
#611 [02:30] <Miniviper> like 2380 maybe
#612 [02:30] <Miniviper> I saw something
#613 [02:30] <Miniviper> like that
#614 [02:30] <KART35|iPod> i had a gateway 2000 made in like
#615 [02:30] <KART35|iPod> 1990
#616 [02:30] <KART35|iPod> a cd drive and floppy drive
#617 [02:30] <KART35|iPod> ajd windows 95
#618 [02:31] <KART35|iPod> BDOD'd so often
#619 [02:31] <KART35|iPod> and you had to press the power button to shut it down when it told you to
#620 [02:31] <Miniviper> the computer im using is hp something... Has ONE cd drive but it is multi. like dvd and cd
#621 [02:32] <KART35|iPod> that one is definately newer than '00
#622 [02:32] <KART35|iPod> unless the drive was replaced
#623 [02:32] <Miniviper> I think its 02
#624 [02:32] <KART35|iPod> hmm
#625 [02:33] <KART35|iPod> i had an hp pavillion then
#626 [02:33] <Miniviper> thats what I have
#627 [02:33] <KART35|iPod> intigrated gfx asploded one day
#628 [02:34] <Miniviper> good?
#629 [02:34] <KART35|iPod> no
#630 [02:34] <KART35|iPod> very bad
#631 [02:35] <KART35|iPod> havent bought another hp since
#632 [02:35] <KART35|iPod> after that it was an emachienes[dell]
#633 [02:35] <KART35|iPod> that died because of....
#634 [02:36] <KART35|iPod> i think the northbridge crapped out
#635 [02:36] <KART35|iPod> after that i built my own
#636 [02:37] <KART35|iPod> and its still kicking ass :D
#637 [02:37] <Miniviper> hmmm
#638 [02:38] <Miniviper> buiiiild mee one!
#639 [02:38] <KART35|iPod> well
#640 [02:38] <KART35|iPod> urm
#641 [02:38] <KART35|iPod> *cough*
#642 [02:38] <KART35|iPod> whats your budget?
#643 [02:39] <Miniviper> 0
#644 [02:39] <Miniviper> freshmen
#645 [02:39] <KART35|iPod> well
#646 [02:39] <KART35|iPod> that wont even get you a cheap cpu
#647 [02:39] <Miniviper> :(
#648 [02:41] <Miniviper> well night
#649 [02:41] <Miniviper> my crazy mom is going wild
#650 [02:41] <KART35|iPod> nighttm
#651 [02:41] <Miniviper> trying to kick me out of the house at 14
#652 [02:41] <KART35|iPod> well
#653 [02:41] <KART35|iPod> good luck with that
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#676 [04:28] <Fausterion> question: how do I update the server files? minecraft-server.zip seems quite out of date
#677 [04:28] <Fausterion> should it do it automatically when I first run server?
#678 [04:28] <Fausterion> sorry I'm new with this
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#681 [04:35] <lemon-rev> hm
#682 [04:36] <lemon-rev> when you log into your server if your the one hosting, then it should just automaticly update
#683 [04:36] <lemon-rev> hm
#684 [04:36] <lemon-rev> whre are you getting the minecraft-server.zip from
#685 [04:36] <lemon-rev> 10/12/2010 < is the date i have on the zip file
#686 [04:37] <lemon-rev> whats the date showing up on yours
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#688 [04:39] <Fausterion> oh hey
#689 [04:39] <Fausterion> sorry
#690 [04:39] <Fausterion> tabbed out
#691 [04:39] <lemon-rev> ok
#692 [04:39] <Fausterion> mine is ancient
#693 [04:39] <lemon-rev> np[
#694 [04:39] <Fausterion> 2009
#695 [04:39] <lemon-rev> well goto minecraft.net and download the new one
#696 [04:40] <Fausterion> yeah I saw the exe
#697 [04:40] <Fausterion> but I'm running this on centos
#698 [04:40] <Fausterion> or is there an updated zip?
#699 [04:40] <Fausterion> with the jar?
#700 [04:40] <lemon-rev> i think you can get the jar file as well if thats what you need for your server
#701 [04:40] <lemon-rev> yes, there should be
#702 [04:40] <Fausterion> yeah thats really thats needed
#703 [04:40] <Fausterion> probably and updated bat? probably not actually
#704 [04:41] <lemon-rev> hm, just go have a look everything on minecraft.net should be upto date
#705 [04:42] <Fausterion> I see the updated jar file
#706 [04:42] <Fausterion> let me try this
#707 [04:42] <Fausterion> oh
#708 [04:42] <lemon-rev> ?
#709 [04:42] <Fausterion> do you know how to exit the server via command prompt without hitting control c?
#710 [04:42] <lemon-rev> hm
#711 [04:42] <lemon-rev> theres alt+tab which will flick windows
#712 [04:43] <lemon-rev> if thats what your trying to do
#713 [04:43] <Fausterion> i'm runnin the server on a vms
#714 [04:43] <Fausterion> via putty
#715 [04:43] <lemon-rev> sorry man i dont know much about the jar file sorry
#716 [04:43] <Fausterion> I was just wondering if there was a better way to exit the server in putty
#717 [04:43] <Fausterion> its ok
#718 [04:44] <Fausterion> i'm working on that now
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#721 [04:44] <Fausterion> hey do you know how to rename a file in CentOS?
#722 [04:45] <Fausterion> nm
#723 [04:45] <Fausterion> i got it
#724 [04:45] <lemon-rev> sweet
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#726 [04:50] <Fausterion> hmm server not starting properly now
#727 [04:50] <Fausterion> let me show you the syntax
#728 [04:50] <Fausterion> likely wrong
#729 [04:50] <lemon-rev> k
#730 [04:50] <Fausterion> java -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer
#731 [04:50] <Fausterion> so this tutorial on the forums
#732 [04:50] <Fausterion> is ancient
#733 [04:50] <Fausterion> is that syntax still correct?
#734 [04:51] <lemon-rev> hm, no
#735 [04:51] <lemon-rev> i dont belive so
#736 [04:51] <lemon-rev> hm
#737 [04:51] <lemon-rev> hagn
#738 [04:51] <lemon-rev> hang
#739 [04:51] <Fausterion> ok
#740 [04:52] <lemon-rev> java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer < thats what i have in my start server.bat
#741 [04:52] <lemon-rev> file
#742 [04:52] <Fausterion> ok
#743 [04:52] <lemon-rev> but yu can change the 512 to 1024 if you want
#744 [04:52] <Fausterion> alright
#745 [04:53] <Fausterion> looks like a parameter to define memory usage?
#746 [04:53] <lemon-rev> thats correct yea
#747 [04:53] <Fausterion> still not working.. hmm
#748 [04:53] <lemon-rev> ill look up
#749 [04:54] <Fausterion> that might not even be the issue... i'll have to troubleshoot some more
#750 [04:54] <Fausterion> it was working with the old jar file
#751 [04:54] <Fausterion> just not with the new one
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#753 [04:56] <lemon-rev> damm all my log of what i have in 24 hours nothing about the jar which everyone talks about almost all the time
#754 [04:56] <lemon-rev> lol
#755 [04:56] <lemon-rev> doh
#756 [04:56] <lemon-rev> i see
#757 [04:56] <Fausterion> yeah I did get the right jar
#758 [04:56] <Fausterion> error is classnotfound
#759 [04:56] <Fausterion> hmm
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#761 [04:57] <lemon-rev> what java version are you running
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#763 [04:57] <Fausterion> should be latest
#764 [04:57] <KillSpammer> Beep.
#765 [04:57] <Fausterion> I used yum commnd to get it
#766 [04:57] <Fausterion> how do I found out java version in centos?
#767 [04:57] <lemon-rev> hm
#768 [04:57] <lemon-rev> lets look it up
#769 [04:58] <Fausterion> i can do that
#770 [04:58] <Fausterion> dont worry
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#772 [04:58] <lemon-rev> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaOnCentOS
#773 [04:58] <Fausterion> 1.6
#774 [04:58] <Fausterion> found it
#775 [04:58] <Fausterion> its
#776 [04:58] <Fausterion> java -version
#777 [04:58] <Fausterion> lol
#778 [04:58] <lemon-rev> doh
#779 [04:58] <lemon-rev> hm,
#780 [04:59] <lemon-rev> just see if you can get an updated version, to see it will either install or it wont
#781 [04:59] <Fausterion> yeah
#782 [04:59] <lemon-rev> Recommended Version 6 Update 23 (filesize: ~ 10 MB <
#783 [04:59] <lemon-rev> hm
#784 [05:01] <lemon-rev> so did it reinstall ?
#785 [05:05] <Fausterion> ahh
#786 [05:05] <Fausterion> this is going to take a while
#787 [05:05] <lemon-rev> ?
#788 [05:05] <Fausterion> i'm very new with linux
#789 [05:05] <Fausterion> so finding a way to update is hard
#790 [05:05] <Fausterion> going to try something different
#791 [05:05] <lemon-rev> im like so new with linux i dont use it lol
#792 [05:05] <Fausterion> I'll let you know once it is done
#793 [05:05] <Fausterion> heh yeah I rarely run it too
#794 [05:05] <lemon-rev> ok
#795 [05:06] <Fausterion> if you have to go its fine. I'll probably work on this more tomorrow anyway. in the mean time I'm still going to pick at it
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#797 [05:06] <lemon-rev> ok np
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#799 [05:06] <lemon-rev> well im just playing the game while watching channel so no biggie, i have 1 hour and 30 mins before bed time
#800 [05:06] <lemon-rev> so best of luck
#801 [05:07] <lemon-rev> theres other people that might be around to help you when your done anyways :)
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#805 [05:14] <Solvius> goooodmorning you helpfull folk, we love you :)
#806 [05:14] <lemon-rev> its a good evening over here but i hope your enjoying your time :P
#807 [05:15] <Solvius> I am happy, today :) ok a goodevening lemon-rev
#808 [05:15] <lemon-rev> thanks
#809 [05:15] <lemon-rev> i needed that :)
#810 [05:15] <Solvius> yw :)
#811 [05:15] <Solvius> need annything else ?
#812 [05:15] <lemon-rev> well im pleased your happy and joyfull :)
#813 [05:15] <lemon-rev> hm, not sure, yet ill let you know :)
#814 [05:15] <Solvius> grin
#815 [05:21] <Fausterion> alright I'm going to bed. Thanks for your help lemon.
#816 [05:21] <Fausterion> goodnight
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#818 [05:25] <lemon-rev> goodnight
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#821 [05:26] <bearpew> Sup guiiise, anyone willing to help me
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#823 [05:27] <bearpew> What are the system req for Minecraft?
#824 [05:30] <TrueWolves> ...
#825 [05:30] <TrueWolves> I was just about to answer.
#826 [05:32] <Z4kku> System requirements are low...
#827 [05:33] <Z4kku> Unless you are having memory leak issues. Oh noes! :O
#828 [05:36] <lemon-rev> why does one tree look like a giant lolly pop
#829 [05:39] <TrueWolves> hell, I've managed to run this game with 1gig of RAM on Vista
#830 [05:39] <CruelNoise> sut TW?
#831 [05:40] <CruelNoise> sup*
#832 [05:40] <TrueWolves> It lags and the music won't play, but it is still quite playable.
#833 [05:40] <TrueWolves> CN, I'm clynicaly depressed, oh no!
#834 [05:40] * TrueWolves is doing his best to ignore it though so otherwise he's fine.
#834 [05:41] <CruelNoise> Hey!
#835 [05:41] <CruelNoise> I'm clinically depressed too!
#836 [05:41] <CruelNoise> Let's be friends!
#837 [05:41] <TrueWolves> heh/
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#839 [06:04] <Puddles> Hella there
#840 [06:04] <Puddles> I was wondering wether any of you can help me with a block saving issue in multiplayer mode
#841 [06:04] <TrueWolves> hm?
#842 [06:05] <Puddles> It seems like squares of blocks randomly disappear
#843 [06:05] <Puddles> by disappear i mean:
#844 [06:05] <Puddles> it completely resets the landscape
#845 [06:05] <Puddles> say: i build a little road
#846 [06:05] <Puddles> 4 days later i come back
#847 [06:05] <TrueWolves> Err... do you have any plugins?
#848 [06:06] <Puddles> sqaure of landscape (approx. 64x64 blocks) is back to normal, as if i never touched it
#849 [06:06] <Puddles> i use MCEdit to get my changes back from backups
#850 [06:06] <Puddles> but it starts to get annoying, especially with big houses etc...
#851 [06:06] <Puddles> I'm using the hMod v132
#852 [06:06] <Puddles> plugins are Craftizens,iEconomy
#853 [06:07] <Puddles> but it happened before i installed any plugins
#854 [06:08] <Puddles> any ideas?
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#856 [06:11] <TrueWolves> Err... I'm not the best technical help person, but hmm..
#857 [06:12] <TrueWolves> Landscape is divived in chunks of 16x16, and it sounds like they are not being saved for some reason.
#858 [06:12] <Puddles> well, they ARE being saved
#859 [06:12] <Puddles> most of them
#860 [06:12] <Puddles> i am able to shut down the server and restart it
#861 [06:12] <Puddles> everything will be fine
#862 [06:12] <Puddles> I have NO idea how minecraft can set the landscape back to its original shape after successfully saving the altered landscape a few times
#863 [06:13] <Puddles> but somehow, it just happens ^^
#864 [06:15] <Puddles> another example. we started to build up a big downtown area with lots of skyscrapers etc... We're building on it since about 4 weeks by now, and yesterday, one of the first houses (partly) was completely reset and the landscape was ser back to normal shape
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#866 [06:16] <Puddles> the house itself and its landscape has been saved for about 4 weeks though, so I'm completely clueless on how this happens :/
#867 [06:17] <TrueWolves> hmm...
#868 [06:17] <TrueWolves> How do you host the server? from your computer?
#869 [06:17] <Puddles> Yes, from my computer. Calling the minecraft_server-mod.jar from a batch
#870 [06:18] <Puddles> i restart it every once in a while and do a save-all 3-4 times a day
#871 [06:19] <TrueWolves> I'm personaly one of the worst people to ask about things technical wise, though when some others show up they can try their best to help... so if you don't mind hanging out here while doing other things that's an option.
#872 [06:19] * TrueWolves needs to see if there is a "known bugs and fixes" list somewhere... gah being offline for long periods of time is causing too many problems.
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#873 [06:20] <Puddles> No problem mate, I'm currently at school for another 3 hours, haning out here will be fine
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#882 [06:55] <Livity> Hello?
#883 [06:57] <Livity> I wish to gain help for opening BETA server. To play with my friend at survival mode. I have opened ports, made exception to firewall, tried open server with offline/online mode.
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#885 [06:59] <Kealper> hmm...
#886 [07:00] <Kealper> Livity: what sort of problem are you running in to?
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#889 [07:03] <Livity> My friend cant connect
#890 [07:03] <Livity> Only I can
#891 [07:03] <Puddles> Maybe you can help me aswell then?
#892 [07:04] <Livity> He is getting connection timeout
#893 [07:04] <Kealper> Livity: what IP is he using to connect?
#894 [07:04] <Livity> my external ip
#895 [07:04] <Kealper> Puddles: i might be able to, what was your question?
#896 [07:04] <Kealper> !enable
#897 [07:04] <Kealper> oh....whoops
#898 [07:04] <Kealper> !check dyn57-81.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi
#899 [07:05] <Puddles> My server doesn'
#900 [07:05] <Kealper> hmm...if i had to guess, i'd say the forwarding was done incorrectly :/
#901 [07:05] <Puddles> save landscape correctly*
#902 [07:05] <Puddles> we started to build up a big downtown area with lots of skyscrapers etc... We're building on it since about 4 weeks by now, and yesterday, one of the first houses (partly) was completely reset and the landscape was ser back to normal shape
#903 [07:05] <Livity> My port is open
#904 [07:05] <Livity> I tried it with a program
#905 [07:06] <Kealper> Livity: did you modify server.properties at all?
#906 [07:06] <Livity> Yes
#907 [07:06] <Kealper> Puddles: was the server shut down properly? (using the stop command)
#908 [07:06] <Livity> Ip adress is my local host + port is default.
#909 [07:06] <Kealper> Livity: is server-ip in the properties set to blank?
#910 [07:07] <Livity> It wasnt
#911 [07:07] <Livity> it was my localhost ( 127.0.0.1
#912 [07:07] <Kealper> make it so it is blank, just server-ip+
#913 [07:07] <Kealper> =*
#914 [07:07] <Livity> Okey.. May I ask for favor and you try connect?
#915 [07:07] <Puddles> Yepp. also used the save-all command multiple times. Think of it: You claim your land, build your huge buildings, save and stop the server multiple times, sometimes for weeks, and them, suddenly, it seems like a block of landscape (ca. 16x16 blocks) were never modified at all and went back to their "inital" state =/
#916 [07:08] <Kealper> after you do that it should work just fine, but i can use AuBot to try again, since it would work the same as me connecting
#917 [07:08] <Kealper> Puddles: is there any script you have running that is using save-off? are you running any mods?
#918 [07:08] <Kealper> wait....
#919 [07:08] <Kealper> only certain blocks that are 16x16 went back to their original state?
#920 [07:09] <Kealper> but others stayed?
#921 [07:09] <Puddles> I'm running my server with hMod v132 and two plugins (Craftizens and iEconomy), the issue itself turned up long before i installed any plugins
#922 [07:09] <Puddles> yes
#923 [07:09] <Puddles> no no
#924 [07:09] <Puddles> Not blocks that ARE 16x16
#925 [07:09] <Puddles> but thats the overall area that gets set back
#926 [07:09] <Puddles> two days ago I built a large building (like 512x256x256 blocks)
#927 [07:09] <Kealper> well...i probably worded that wrong....i mean is there random things of non-saved world that are 16x16?
#928 [07:10] <Puddles> today, a general area of like ... 16x16 was set back to its initial state, looking like a chunk being cut out looking like it would never have been touched
#929 [07:10] <Puddles> yes
#930 [07:10] <Puddles> i dont exactly know if its 16x16
#931 [07:10] <Kealper> that's not good....
#932 [07:10] <Puddles> but its around that size
#933 [07:10] <Puddles> no its not
#934 [07:10] <Kealper> means the chunk was super corrupt and unreadable, so the server had to regenerate it :/
#935 [07:11] <Kealper> have you tried running vanilla to see if the mods are the culprit?
#936 [07:11] <Kealper> Livity: is your server running again with server-ip blanked?
#937 [07:12] <Livity> Yes
#938 [07:12] <Kealper> !check dyn57-81.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi
#939 [07:12] <Puddles> Eh, not good .. We're 3-5 ppl on the server which is running about 5-7 days/week. It gets restarted a few times/week and save-all a few times a day. Every so often, someone steps up to me saying ("Heya, we're missing a part of that and that building"). Sometimes its new buildings, sometimes its areas we built 4 weeks ago (so they saved and loaded multiple ...
#940 [07:12] <Kealper> Livity: works, you should have seen a connect and disconnect in your server console really fast
#941 [07:12] <Livity> Yes
#942 [07:12] <Livity> Ty
#943 [07:13] <Livity> Thank you very much!
#944 [07:13] <Puddles> ....times since we lost them.) I'm doing a backup of the whole world folder everyday and use MCEdit to export the missing parts from a backup world and put them in our current world. they usually then stay there
#945 [07:13] <Kealper> np, come back if you have any more questions/issues :P
#946 [07:13] <Kealper> Puddles: is this server running off your own computer or an old dedicated one that you had laying around?
#947 [07:13] <Puddles> No, i haven't done a vanilla try so far, but I don't think the mods are the problem, this issue turned up long before i installed any mods on the server
#948 [07:14] <Puddles> its currently running on my workstation, the minecraft_server-mod.jar being called over a batch
#949 [07:14] <Puddles> my workstation is a 2x3.3GHz with 8Gigs of RAM, so it should have enough power to handle the server :/
#950 [07:15] <Kealper> hmm...because something like frequent chunk corruptions could mean something more sinister with hard drive problems could be going on :/
#951 [07:15] <Kealper> do you run any backup utilities?
#952 [07:16] <Kealper> anything at all, even scheduled or manual rars/zips of the world folder
#953 [07:16] <Puddles> Yepp, I was thinking about that too for a while. I then checked basicly all of my files and did a complete scan with two harddrive diagnosis programs (low level) from my harddrive manufacturer. all of my checks turned out negative on a harddrive issue though
#954 [07:17] <Puddles> I backup all of my files i consider worth a backup by hand, storing them on an external hdd
#955 [07:17] <Puddles> oh, of the world folder?
#956 [07:17] <Puddles> yes, as mentioned before
#957 [07:17] <Puddles> I do a backup by hand every day
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#959 [07:18] <Kealper> that could be what is doing it....try typing save-off into the console just before you start to back up your files, then do save-on right after you are done
#960 [07:18] <Puddles> once we see a chunk that's missing, I'm loading up one of my backups which still holds the chunks in MCEding, export the missing area and import it to our current server. So far it fixed everything and chunks stayed there, nothing crashed or similar. It's just getting a little annoying over time
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#962 [07:19] <Puddles> i shut down my server manually before I do a backup
#963 [07:19] <Kealper> oh? hmm....
#964 [07:20] <Puddles> I also checked the minecraft bugtracker over at Get Satisfaction for my problem, but I couldn't really find anything corresponding
#965 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> Chunk corruption is something some people have reported over time
#966 [07:20] <Kealper> the only thing i could think of is an outdated plugin for hmod....or something is putting a locking handle on that chunk's file while the server is trying to read it or save it..
#967 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> You sure? I could swear some have reported it on getsatisfaction...
#968 [07:21] <Puddles> I found multiple entries on chunk corruption
#969 [07:21] <Puddles> but none of them turned out didely on my experiences
#970 [07:21] <Puddles> the server has full access on the world folder
#971 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> Just over time, the longer you play a map, the more likely a chunk will corrupt.
#972 [07:21] <Puddles> and as mentioned before, it happened long before i put up any plugins
#973 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's not a mod/plugin problem.
#974 [07:22] <Puddles> Yes
#975 [07:22] <Kealper> how frequent is this chunk corrupting stuff?
#976 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Pretty infrequent, from reports.
#977 [07:22] <Kealper> no, i mean Puddles' problem
#978 [07:22] <Puddles> Hard to say, we're populating a big world and haven't seen lots of it for weeks
#979 [07:22] <Kealper> because even my map has one of those corrupt chunks, so i know it can happen randomly :/
#980 [07:23] <Puddles> I can only tell on the areas we're occuping atm, and from there, it looks pretty random
#981 [07:23] <Puddles> there's no pattern or anything else, sometimes it occurs 2-3 times a day, sometimes only twice a week
#982 [07:23] <Kealper> oh, so it's not that frequent as far as you can see?
#983 [07:23] <Kealper> o.o
#984 [07:23] <Kealper> that's pretty frequent....
#985 [07:23] <Puddles> yes, but it's also pretty random :/
#986 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#987 [07:24] <Puddles> I don't even want to know what's happening to the rest of our world, there's probably a lot of chunks missing by now ... idk i'd have to check
#988 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> I think you might want to email notch/markus@mojang.com with that world, see if he can't sort something out.
#989 [07:24] <Kealper> Puddles: have you tried with a clean world for a while?
#990 [07:24] <Kealper> and what grey said
#991 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> Or at least, see what's wrong with the map gen, and get a fix for later versions.
#992 [07:25] <Puddles> Meh ... I'm a programmer myself and wish i was working in the game design industry (hope to get there one day), I don't really want to bug him with things like that.
#993 [07:25] * GreyVulpine shakes
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#994 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> He actually welcomes people sending erroneous maps to him
#995 [07:26] <Puddles> We had another world before our current one, but I don't remember chunks missing on there
#996 [07:26] <Puddles> well, its not ENORMOUS ^^
#997 [07:26] <Kealper> how big is it?
#998 [07:26] <Puddles> just pretty big by our means
#999 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> didn't say enormous..
#1000 [07:26] <Puddles> oh ok
#1001 [07:26] <Puddles> idk ... i guess, walking from one point to the other would take you around 15-20 minutes
#1002 [07:26] <Kealper> well, i mean the world folder, how many mb is it?
#1003 [07:27] <Puddles> oh, that's not a good question, I'm currently not home
#1004 [07:27] <Puddles> But i GUESS its around 40MB
#1005 [07:27] <Kealper> oh...
#1006 [07:27] <Kealper> hmm...
#1007 [07:27] <Kealper> not too big...
#1008 [07:27] <Puddles> see :P
#1009 [07:28] <Puddles> idk, could be more, but it's not too big, I've seen far bigger onces
#1010 [07:29] <Puddles> should I archive it and send it to him? or upload it somewhere and send him the link?
#1011 [07:29] <Puddles> Idk, maybe I discovered something here. Probably not though ^^
#1012 [07:30] <Kealper> and yea, if your email place won't let you do big attachments, upload it somewhere and email him the link, and explain what is happening
#1013 [07:31] <Puddles> I'm using gmail, it think they have a 10mb restriction. not quite sure wether i can rar/zip/7z/whatever the world to that size
#1014 [07:31] <Puddles> well ok, I shall do so :P
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#1016 [07:32] <Puddles> markus@mojang.com?
#1017 [07:32] <Kealper> yea
#1018 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> notch@ and markus@
#1019 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> same person
#1020 [07:32] <Puddles> yeah, just wasn't sure wether the notch/ had anything else to say :P
#1021 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> Nah, notch gets people sending corrupt maps to him quite a lot
#1022 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> Never know what happens afters.
#1023 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> afterwards*
#1024 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> And max file attachments in gmail are 25 megs
#1025 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> Ooo... "New stuff coming this Friday" from Minecraft's FB.
#1026 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> 11 minutes ago
#1027 [07:35] <Kealper> yea, on jeb's (i think it was him) he said they were aiming for the 14th
#1028 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Neat, guess we're going to get music blocks, and a new mob?
#1029 [07:35] <Kealper> indeed
#1030 [07:35] <Puddles> Yeah, he was talking about a water mob
#1031 [07:35] <Puddles> and maybe color
#1032 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Oh yeah, paint too
#1033 [07:35] <Puddles> that'd be amazing ^^
#1034 [07:35] <Kealper> dyes are finished i guess
#1035 [07:35] <Puddles> IF he managed to sort them out
#1036 [07:36] <Puddles> last thing i read about them was they were still somewhat buggy
#1037 [07:36] <Kealper> accoring to the twitters, afaik dyes work now
#1038 [07:36] <Puddles> Neat! *flash*
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#1043 [08:00] <sj0nez> Xerati: were you the guy that was helping me the other day? I can't quite remember :P
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#1045 [08:00] <onix> Sup
#1046 [08:00] <Kealper> hello'
#1047 [08:00] <onix> =D
#1048 [08:00] <Puddles> ola
#1049 [08:00] <onix> hey
#1050 [08:00] <onix> kealper
#1051 [08:00] <onix> puddies
#1052 [08:00] <Kealper> o.o
#1053 [08:00] <onix> i uploaded the soundtrack of minecraft :D
#1054 [08:00] <onix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0biyeBhYKE it's in hd :D
#1055 [08:01] <onix> hd :D
#1056 [08:01] <onix> i would appreciate some comments
#1057 [08:01] <onix> edited the pic by myself
#1058 [08:01] <Kealper> wait a tick....
#1059 [08:01] <onix> ?
#1060 [08:01] <Kealper> wern't you the one that came in here the other day and spammed the crap out of that link?
#1061 [08:01] <Puddles> lol
#1062 [08:02] <onix> nope, it's my lil brother, he's 13
#1063 [08:02] <onix> i told him to
#1064 [08:02] <onix> lol sorry
#1065 [08:02] <onix> about that
#1066 [08:02] <mbentley> <.<
#1067 [08:02] <mbentley> >.>
#1068 [08:02] <Kealper> >.>
#1069 [08:02] <onix> he said he named himself on this like
#1070 [08:02] <onix> crafter or something
#1071 [08:02] <onix> well sorry for spoiling that day but i aint spamming =)
#1072 [08:02] <Puddles> you just trick others into going so?
#1073 [08:03] <mbentley> Jan-06 15:56 < JALLE> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0biyeBhYKE
#1074 [08:03] <onix> well my bro is a dumbass
#1075 [08:03] <onix> so yeah
#1076 [08:03] <Kealper> yeah..that guy
#1077 [08:03] <onix> XD
#1078 [08:03] <mbentley> x10
#1079 [08:03] <onix> oh yeah
#1080 [08:03] <onix> jalle!
#1081 [08:03] <onix> he was in another chat
#1082 [08:03] <onix> where we called himself
#1083 [08:03] <onix> minecrafter
#1084 [08:03] <onix> or something
#1085 [08:03] <onix> anyways, it didn't work out good
#1086 [08:03] <onix> just earned 50 views from it
#1087 [08:04] <Kealper> hmm...the ban list must have been cleared from that clear users command the other day....
#1088 [08:04] <Puddles> I'm always amazed of what people are doing for a few clicks on their YT-Videos :/
#1089 [08:04] <onix> haha :S but please?
#1090 [08:04] <onix> some comments?
#1091 [08:04] <Kealper> pretty sure that spam earned him a perminant ban....
#1092 [08:04] <onix> yeah he said he got banned
#1093 [08:05] <onix> i'm gonna kill jalle later lol
#1094 [08:05] <Kealper> well....do you want the the buttered up version or the cold hard truth version
#1095 [08:05] <onix> when he gets home from school
#1096 [08:05] <onix> wut?
#1097 [08:05] <Kealper> and yea, i was the one who banned him....the spam would have continued if i didnt-.-
#1098 [08:05] <Kealper> didn't -.-*
#1099 [08:05] <onix> oh okay
#1100 [08:05] <Puddles> Next thing you do is telling us a secret on how to make 400$ a day with ease?^^
#1101 [08:05] <onix> lol
#1102 [08:06] <Kealper> the good: track sounds ok.
#1103 [08:06] <onix> comment then =)
#1104 [08:06] <onix> i love u(L) lol
#1105 [08:06] <Kealper> the bad: your methods of distributing it for hits
#1106 [08:06] <onix> sorry.
#1107 [08:06] <Kealper> the ugly: that image
#1108 [08:06] <onix> i know
#1109 [08:06] <onix> i fucked over his eyes
#1110 [08:06] <onix> in paint
#1111 [08:06] <onix> by mistake
#1112 [08:07] <Puddles> You know, there's a redo button in paint?
#1113 [08:07] <onix> yeah but it looked cool
#1114 [08:07] <onix> ;)
#1115 [08:07] <Puddles> undo* O_O^
#1116 [08:07] <Kealper> and you used compressed jpegs for all the stock images....which means colors are not clean
#1117 [08:07] <onix> plz stop complaining and comment about it
#1118 [08:07] <Kealper> i already did
#1119 [08:07] <onix> took 10 minutes to render and my computer lagged bitch
#1120 [08:07] <onix> lol
#1121 [08:07] <Puddles> The more you beg for it, the less likely I will
#1122 [08:08] <onix> oh
#1123 [08:08] <onix> sorry
#1124 [08:08] <Puddles> Or, the more likely I will mark it as spam :P
#1125 [08:08] <onix> ..
#1126 [08:08] <onix> sorryyy
#1127 [08:08] <Kealper> i said the track was ok...but the spam and image quality were not
#1128 [08:08] <mbentley> why do you want a lot of comments and hits anyway?
#1129 [08:08] <mbentley> not like you get money off of youtube...
#1130 [08:08] <onix> idk, it's funny to have lots of subs and comment?
#1131 [08:08] <onix> make a channel and feel it yourself
#1132 [08:08] <onix> makes u happy
#1133 [08:08] <onix> cmments
#1134 [08:08] <onix> comment
#1135 [08:08] <onix> s
#1136 [08:08] <Puddles> Oh yeah, lets all compare our e-penis
#1137 [08:09] <onix> fuck
#1138 [08:09] <onix> lol
#1139 [08:09] <onix> XD
#1140 [08:09] <Kealper> i'd like a lot of comments and upvotes on this http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/ezhrk/if_there_is_notch_time/ but that is probably not going to happen >.>
#1141 [08:09] <onix> who made the comment on mine?
#1142 [08:09] <onix> what yt name?
#1143 [08:09] * Kealper is Kealper
#1143 [08:10] <Puddles> lol
#1144 [08:10] <onix> the last comment i got was
#1145 [08:10] <onix> 3 days ago
#1146 [08:10] <mbentley> since i am pretty sure that you have to click on a video to comment, it wasn't me
#1147 [08:10] <onix> oh
#1148 [08:10] <onix> k
#1149 [08:11] <Kealper> want some protips for getting your video out there and not being banned?
#1150 [08:11] <onix> banned?
#1151 [08:11] <onix> why would it get banned?
#1152 [08:12] <Puddles> Idk, I myself am surprised that you're still here
#1153 [08:12] <mbentley> probably speaking about being banned from here...
#1154 [08:12] <Kealper> give it to #minecraft and not this channel, as this one is primarily for tech support, and don't beg for comments or views
#1155 [08:12] <onix> i don't understand a shit, i asked a few times to comment and i make people totally pissed off. anyways i'm leaving and sorry guys?..
#1156 [08:13] <Kealper> just join, casually say hey, i made this song...could you check it out and tell me if it sounds ok?
#1157 [08:13] <mbentley> facepalm
#1158 [08:13] <Puddles> ...epic
#1159 [08:13] <Kealper> fine....ragequit while i'm trying to help you not be a noob -.-
#1160 [08:13] <mbentley> i love
#1161 [08:13] <mbentley> when
#1162 [08:13] <mbentley> people type
#1163 [08:13] <mbentley> like this
#1164 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> o
#1165 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> m
#1166 [08:13] <Kealper> i know,
#1167 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> g
#1168 [08:13] <Kealper> right?
#1169 [08:13] <Puddles> .sign
#1170 [08:14] <mbentley> makes me want to club baby seals...
#1171 [08:14] <Kealper> lol
#1172 [08:14] <Puddles> xD
#1173 [08:15] <Kealper> i was serious about that reddit link though...i just made that/submitted it...and i don't feel like spamming it in #minecraft lol
#1174 [08:15] <Puddles> If it does make you feel better, I lol'd @ it.
#1175 [08:16] <Kealper> atleast i have something worth loling at...
#1176 [08:16] <Puddles> sadly, I'm not quite sure on how to comment or give thumbs up on reddit and wasn't able to figure it out in a humble O_O
#1177 [08:16] * Kealper lets that sit for a day before going bac kto it
#1177 [08:17] <Puddles> Well, if you're looking for quality feedback on your work, I'm probably not the best person to talk to :/
#1178 [08:17] * GreyVulpine channels The Critic.
#1178 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> "It sucks"
#1179 [08:17] <Kealper> meh, not much feedback to give, just went to memgenerator, typed in some text, re-uploaded to ingur, submitted to reddit lol
#1180 [08:18] <Kealper> so....on that note...i've got a reddit to peruse
#1181 [08:18] <Puddles> Maybe you should give garlic a try? ...or hot babes? ...idk
#1182 [08:18] <Kealper> psh....lives are for squares
#1183 [08:18] <Kealper> lol
#1184 [08:19] <Puddles> Hahahahaha 'XD
#1185 [08:19] <Kealper> http://imgur.com/LtQyS
#1186 [08:21] <Puddles> Well, maybe it's time for a barndance :(
#1187 [08:21] <Kealper> wow....that's cool... http://i.imgur.com/Cw3vM.jpg
#1188 [08:21] <Kealper> barndance? lol
#1189 [08:22] <Puddles> idk .. barndances always seem to raise my spirits
#1190 [08:22] <Kealper> a hoedown? lol
#1191 [08:23] <Puddles> a what? xD
#1192 [08:23] <Kealper> iono....
#1193 [08:23] <Puddles> oh ok
#1194 [08:23] <Puddles> thanks @google
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#1196 [08:23] <Puddles> If you're from germany, hoedown sounds more like something having to do with hookers ^^
#1197 [08:24] <Kealper> XD
#1198 [08:24] <Kealper> i guess hoedown is just an american redheck thing then....lol
#1199 [08:24] <Kealper> redneck*
#1200 [08:24] <Puddles> Well, at least the word ^^
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#1204 [08:33] <bugweiser> monecraft not working 4 me somebody help!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!one1!!!!!!!!!
#1205 [08:33] * Mikau1 waves his wand and fixes it.
#1205 [08:33] <Puddles> more info?
#1206 [08:34] <bugweiser> I was playing like usual suddenly it quits by itself, i was in hte nether at that point and cant gtfo
#1207 [08:34] <bugweiser> it did it a few more times and now i cant play
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#1209 [08:35] <Kealper> what do you mean you can't play? like you can not load that map, or the game will not start at all?
#1210 [08:35] <Puddles> and why? Does it simply not open or give you an error message or what?
#1211 [08:35] <bugweiser> gamewill not start at all
#1212 [08:35] <bugweiser> i click it nothing happens
#1213 [08:35] <Kealper> bugweiser: what operating system?
#1214 [08:35] <Mikau> The client? or in the browser?
#1215 [08:36] <bugweiser> i downloaded it on windows 7
#1216 [08:36] <bugweiser> IT worked perfectly until tight just now
#1217 [08:36] <Puddles> Try Ctrl+Shift+Esc, select processes and kill all javaw processes
#1218 [08:36] <Puddles> after that, try again
#1219 [08:36] <Puddles> that should help
#1220 [08:36] <Puddles> or, might
#1221 [08:36] <Kealper> that might not be the issue
#1222 [08:36] <bugweiser> oki try
#1223 [08:37] <bugweiser> Holy shit
#1224 [08:37] <bugweiser> it was like magic
#1225 [08:37] <bugweiser> it is working
#1226 [08:37] <bugweiser> Thank you very much for your help
#1227 [08:37] <Kealper> was there some rogue javaw.exe processes running?
#1228 [08:37] <Puddles> mikau1's waving hand seemed to do the trick
#1229 [08:37] <Kealper> lol
#1230 [08:37] <bugweiser> yea some kind of app i did not know about
#1231 [08:38] <Puddles> that was probably the reason
#1232 [08:38] <Mikau> no problem.
#1233 [08:38] <Puddles> Sometimes if minecraft crashes, the process is not closed properly which might cause problems if you try to open it up again
#1234 [08:38] * Mikau puts his wand away.
#1234 [08:38] <Mikau> Until next time folks!
#1235 [08:38] <Puddles> at least that's what i expected
#1236 [08:39] <bugweiser> Thanks yous for your helps
#1237 [08:39] <bugweiser> K THX BAI LOL
#1238 [08:39] <Kealper> well then...i guess i know what happens now if you try to open another minecraft on a computer that can't do two at once...lol
#1239 [08:39] <Mikau> You think that's cool, you should see what I can do with a sandwich!
#1240 [08:39] <Kealper> o.o
#1241 [08:39] <Puddles> Sir
#1242 [08:39] <Puddles> I want to make you a knight!
#1243 [08:39] <Puddles> Eh, penuts
#1244 [08:40] <Puddles> I want to crown you the king of .... eh ...... eh .... well, make it ... idk, pick one
#1245 [08:44] <Mikau> !roll 1d6
#1246 [08:44] * crickets --> "Mikau rolls 1d6 and gets 3."
#1246 [08:44] <Mikau> Thanks, tips.
#1247 [08:44] <Kealper> !roll 1d20
#1248 [08:44] * crickets --> "Kealper rolls 1d20 and gets 8."
#1248 [08:44] <Kealper> :/
#1249 [08:44] <Mikau> !roll 1d20
#1250 [08:44] * crickets --> "Mikau rolls 1d20 and gets 6."
#1250 [08:44] <Puddles> !roll1d512
#1251 [08:44] * crickets --> "Puddles Dice Error: Invalid arguments in the attempted roll"
#1251 [08:44] <Mikau> :(
#1252 [08:45] <Mikau> You win this time, Kealper.
#1253 [08:45] <Puddles> :*(
#1254 [08:45] <Kealper> lol
#1255 [08:45] <Mikau> You'll rue the day you crossed me, Kealper.
#1256 [08:45] * Mikau shakes his fist.
#1256 [08:45] <Kealper> well... Puddles still has to roll lol
#1257 [08:45] <Puddles> !roll 1d20
#1258 [08:45] * crickets --> "Puddles rolls 1d20 and gets 6."
#1258 [08:45] <Kealper> Puddles: type !roll 1d20
#1259 [08:45] <Mikau> I was just about to start an epic war on Civ5
#1260 [08:45] <Puddles> yarrrrrrrrr
#1261 [08:45] <Kealper> muahahaha!!
#1262 [08:45] <Mikau> and then I had to come to college
#1263 [08:45] <Livity> !roll 1d20
#1264 [08:45] * crickets --> "Livity rolls 1d20 and gets 15."
#1264 [08:45] <Livity> IM awesome
#1265 [08:45] <Livity> :D
#1266 [08:45] <Puddles> I shall blast you all into a dark oblivion next time
#1267 [08:46] <Puddles> ouuuhhhhh ^^
#1268 [08:46] <Mikau> The turban people were south of me, and the indian people were east of me, and I'm in a nook surrounded by water.
#1269 [08:46] <Kealper> :/
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#1271 [08:46] <Mikau> native people, not indian*
#1272 [08:46] <Puddles> From now on you shall travel in tubes
#1273 [08:47] <Kealper> oh joy...my image has got 110 views since i submitted it
#1274 [08:47] <Mikau> Both countries are massive, and I purposely didn't build any extra towns. So I have 2 cities in a corner.
#1275 [08:47] <Mikau> My units are far more advanced though
#1276 [08:47] <Mikau> It was going to be interesting. :(
#1277 [08:47] <Puddles> Did you install fast-travel tubes aswell?
#1278 [08:47] <Puddles> If the turban people did, they can outrush you with ease
#1279 [08:48] <Mikau> they have pikeman
#1280 [08:48] <Mikau> I have rifleman
#1281 [08:48] <Mikau> :D
#1282 [08:48] * Puddles presents a bucket of flowers @Kealper for 110 views on reddit
#1282 [08:48] <Kealper> lol
#1283 [08:48] <Puddles> yes, but you don't have the fast-travel tubes
#1284 [08:49] <Kealper> meh..i think it's time for me to go eat breakfast and such....almost 9 am
#1285 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, breakfast is overrated
#1286 [08:50] <Puddles> .sign
#1287 [08:50] <Kealper> not when you're hungry >.>
#1288 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, hunger is overrated
#1289 [08:50] <Puddles> it's almost 2:50pm over here
#1290 [08:50] <Kealper> and my idea of breakfast was probably going to be nachos lol
#1291 [08:50] <Puddles> and i dndt have breakfast either ^_^
#1292 [08:50] <mbentley> if i ate breakfast, that would mean i would have to wake up earlier than i do already
#1293 [08:50] <Kealper> lol
#1294 [08:50] <Puddles> Well, nachos on the other hand, are not overrated
#1295 [08:51] <Kealper> so...afk for a half hour or so
#1296 [08:51] <mbentley> 5 more minutes of sleep > breakfast :D coffee is my breakfast
#1297 [08:51] <Puddles> .sign
#1298 [08:56] <Mikau> pshh
#1299 [08:56] <Mikau> I've been up for like 7 and a half hours
#1300 [08:56] <Mikau> I took a nap between 11pm and 1:30 pm
#1301 [08:56] <Mikau> I'm good for the day
#1302 [08:57] <Puddles> Where do you come from?
#1303 [08:58] <Mikau> Some foreign land where the people live in igloos and ride moose to work.
#1304 [08:58] <Mikau> and have pet beavers
#1305 [08:58] <Puddles> Britain?
#1306 [08:59] <Mikau> British people have igloos?
#1307 [08:59] <Mikau> I thought they lived under trolleys and sipped tea with bisquits all day.
#1308 [08:59] <Puddles> Now that you mention it, they probably do
#1309 [09:00] <TrueWolves> ?
#1310 [09:00] <Mikau> From what I understand, there's a little seating area under the trolleys, and they sit under them peddling their feet to make the trolley go
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#1312 [09:01] <Mikau> That way they always have tea and bisquits within' arms reach
#1313 [09:01] <Puddles> That's basicly what they do all day, yes
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#1315 [09:02] <Puddles> I don't see any difference to your culture, though? O_o
#1316 [09:03] <Mikau> I'm from Canada
#1317 [09:03] <Mikau> We're Britain's rebelious love child
#1318 [09:03] <Puddles> British Canada or French Canada?
#1319 [09:03] <Mikau> pshh
#1320 [09:03] <Mikau> I fully plan on taking a chisel and getting rid of Quebec, Canada
#1321 [09:04] <Puddles> Oh, ok then
#1322 [09:04] <Mikau> I'll chisel their province off the continent, and push them towards the arctic.
#1323 [09:04] * Puddles puts the pumpgun away again ... for now
#1323 [09:04] <Mikau> Maybe I'll chisel alaska off, and pull it around the top of the continent, and wedge it where Quebec was.
#1324 [09:05] <Mikau> Alaska seems cooler than Quebec
#1325 [09:05] <Mikau> they have wolves and polar bears
#1326 [09:05] <Puddles> *drum*
#1327 [09:05] <Mikau> and eskimos
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#1329 [09:05] <Puddles> and I'm sure the eskimos would love to get their own pet beavers
#1330 [09:05] <Mikau> exactl
#1331 [09:05] <Mikau> exactamundo
#1332 [09:05] <Mikau> ps. I'm Fonzi
#1333 [09:05] <Puddles> you know, that sounds like a pretty reasonable idea to me
#1334 [09:05] * Mikau has stories of proof
#1334 [09:06] * Puddles wishes to hear proof
#1334 [09:06] <Mikau> I've punched my DVD burner to make it work.
#1335 [09:06] <Mikau> 100% Fonzi style
#1336 [09:06] <Puddles> Well .. are you some sort of reincarnation then?
#1337 [09:06] <Mikau> The thing wouldn't open up, after 15 minutes of pushing the button, I got fed up and whacked it with the bottom of my fist. Fonzi style
#1338 [09:06] <Mikau> the thing popped open like magic
#1339 [09:07] <Mikau> My father said "What are you, Fonzi?" and I said "ehhhhhh"
#1340 [09:07] <Mikau> Good times
#1341 [09:07] <Puddles> The Canadian Way of Life? XD
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#1343 [09:07] <Mikau> You're just jealous cause you still use gasoline
#1344 [09:07] <Mikau> whereas, I feed my moose maple syrup
#1345 [09:07] <jM> Hi, Fellows! Is it possible to get the (example) 10 last log-in IPs for my Minecraft account? Someone has used it!
#1346 [09:08] <Mikau> Change your password.
#1347 [09:08] <Puddles> And this time, don't tell
#1348 [09:08] <Mikau> Pick 2 words you like, preferably longer words between 6-9 characters
#1349 [09:08] <jM> Done that, but I want to trace this *.
#1350 [09:09] <Mikau> Change them to be more "1337 text"
#1351 [09:09] <mbentley> there really isn't a way
#1352 [09:09] <jM> Hacking is illegal, so, anyone know?
#1353 [09:09] <mbentley> while they may log it, nobody here is able to assist with that as we don't have access to that information
#1354 [09:09] <Mikau> For example, you could mix Kealper and Puddles together.
#1355 [09:09] <Mikau> KealperPuddles, then 1337 it up
#1356 [09:09] <Puddles> That's nothing I'd know of. Maybe ask Notch if the login-history gets changed at all.
#1357 [09:09] <Mikau> K3a1lp3rPuddl3s
#1358 [09:10] <Mikau> How's that for a password?
#1359 [09:10] <jM> So Notch got it - hopefully. How long time will it take before he responds, and where should I submit it?
#1360 [09:10] <Puddles> you can email him or ask him on twitter
#1361 [09:11] <jM> What ya' think is faster?
#1362 [09:11] <Puddles> I'm pretty sure, your "hacker" won't magically disappear if you have to wait for 1 or 2 days
#1363 [09:11] <mbentley> most people will see it pointless to pursue if you have your account back
#1364 [09:11] <Puddles> BUT ... he might be trying to kill you
#1365 [09:11] <Puddles> And probably twitter
#1366 [09:12] <jM> :P
#1367 [09:13] <Mikau> There's a good chance he's outside your window in the bushes.
#1368 [09:13] <Mikau> I recommend getting nude, and standing in front of said windows.
#1369 [09:13] <jM> XD
#1370 [09:13] <jM> Really, I want to find him; the Police could take him (evil laugh=
#1371 [09:14] <Mikau> Who wants to know the secret to winning every physical confrontation(fight) that should ever arise in your life?
#1372 [09:14] <Puddles> Puddles recommends telling him your gender, first
#1373 [09:14] <jM> Or, even better, make Notch ban HIS account O_o. I don't know, take it as it comes. But hacking is really inacceptable.
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#1375 [09:15] <Puddles> You know, I'm getting the faint vision of your hacker. Is there any chance that said persona is of canadian heriatage?
#1376 [09:15] <Mikau> I'm not outside his window right now.
#1377 [09:16] <Mikau> I'd point out his "hacker" if I was.
#1378 [09:16] <Mikau> rassle the bushes around
#1379 [09:16] <Mikau> shake him out
#1380 [09:16] <Puddles> Arrrr, and here I was, thinking I got a clue+
#1381 [09:17] <Mikau> That guy better not be messing up my spot either.
#1382 [09:17] <Mikau> Do you know how long it took to get those leaves JUST RIGHT
#1383 [09:17] <Puddles> Oh, you're talking about your comfyspot?
#1384 [09:17] <Mikau> Yes
#1385 [09:18] <Puddles> The one you told us the wonderfull stories about so often
#1386 [09:18] <Mikau> I even have a cup holder
#1387 [09:18] <jM> Twitter = @Notch and then message, right?
#1388 [09:18] <Puddles> Yeeaaah, he better not mess that one up ...
#1389 [09:18] <Mikau> Twitter sucks
#1390 [09:18] <Puddles> So do cup holders
#1391 [09:18] <Puddles> no wait, that was gerbils..
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#1393 [09:18] <Mikau> CD trays should have been designed to be make-shift cup holders
#1394 [09:19] <Puddles> CJ Johnsons CD Traying CD Trays (TM)! - Giving your Cup JUST the right spin!
#1395 [09:20] <Mikau> The C stands for Carl
#1396 [09:20] <Puddles> How'd you know ......
#1397 [09:20] <Mikau> It's always Carl
#1398 [09:20] <Puddles> .....unless.... *mumble*
#1399 [09:20] <Mikau> I want to go home
#1400 [09:20] <Mikau> There's an epic war waiting to happen
#1401 [09:20] <Puddles> me too
#1402 [09:20] <Mikau> and here I am listening to some idiot ramble about MAC addresses and DNS resolvers
#1403 [09:20] <Puddles> there's minecraft to play and a map to be sent to notch
#1404 [09:21] <Puddles> psh, more interesting than malloc and pointers. Even though it's being distributed by a rambling idiot aswell over here
#1405 [09:21] <Mikau> My next class better be more interesting.
#1406 [09:21] <Mikau> I think it's a Java class
#1407 [09:22] <Puddles> My next class is getToCar(&home);
#1408 [09:22] <Mikau> You're taking the address of your home and bringing it to your getToCar?
#1409 [09:23] <Puddles> That's exactemente what germans do when they're done with school for that day
#1410 [09:23] <Mikau> You should run MoveCarToHouse(&Yourself)
#1411 [09:24] <Puddles> maybe
#1412 [09:24] <Puddles> but it's way too much fun, pouring gasolien over inocent people and set them aflame
#1413 [09:24] <Mikau> Come on baby, light my fire?
#1414 [09:25] <Puddles> Yes, I might try to set the night on fire
#1415 [09:26] <Puddles> 4 minutes, ooooh! ;0)
#1416 [09:27] <Mikau> Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, Television, North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe, Ryan started the fiiiire~
#1417 [09:27] <Puddles> Well then, my Time has come
#1418 [09:27] <Puddles> I shall leave you now to MoveCarToHouse(&myself)
#1419 [09:28] <Puddles> Cheers :O
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#1421 [09:37] <chowchig> Does anyone here know where the minecraft.jar saves to when you download the minecraft_server.exe ?
#1422 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> minecraft_server.exe has minecraft.jar inside it, it's just wrapped
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#1424 [09:37] <chowchig> Oh, okay, thanks
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#1426 [09:39] <Kealper> senecac.on.ca? as in Seneca College?
#1427 [09:40] <Mikau> Yes >.>
#1428 [09:40] <Mikau> (9:38:28 AM) AuBot: (notice) Welcome to #MinecraftHelp! Don't ask to ask, just ask!
#1429 [09:40] <Mikau> Do you know how many times I've said that in my own chatroom?
#1430 [09:40] <Kealper> man...what's up with all the regulars being in the great lakes area lol
#1431 [09:40] <Kealper> and lol
#1432 [09:40] <TrueWolves> ... wait
#1433 [09:40] <TrueWolves> A number of you are in the great lakes area?
#1434 [09:40] <Kealper> yes?
#1435 [09:40] <Mikau> Toronto
#1436 [09:41] <TrueWolves> ...
#1437 [09:41] <mbentley> i am somewhat close...
#1438 [09:41] <Mikau> Toronto, Ontario, Canada
#1439 [09:41] <Mikau> If you're going to rape me, you better be sexy
#1440 [09:41] <Kealper> port huron here, LG is about 40 min away from me, and grey is in mighigan aswell
#1441 [09:41] <mbentley> <= indiana
#1442 [09:41] <Kealper> ........what a huge coincidence lol
#1443 [09:41] * TrueWolves is from Minnesota
#1443 [09:42] <Kealper> lol
#1444 [09:42] <TrueWolves> no... /from/ Wisconsin, most of my life (and current resisdince) in Minnesota
#1445 [09:43] <Kealper> makes ya wonder just how many other people around this irc are from the great lakes area lol
#1446 [09:43] <Mikau> I wonder how many people are from the great oceans area
#1447 [09:43] <Mikau> oh wait, that's everyone
#1448 [09:43] <mbentley> just goes to show how boring the great lakes area must be during the winter...
#1449 [09:43] <Kealper> man...my clothes were still a bit damp after i took them out of the dryer....
#1450 [09:44] <Mikau> Yeah, mbentley, less than 93 people from the entire area is sitting in a minecraft irc
#1451 [09:44] <Mikau> real boring ;)
#1452 [09:44] <chowchig> Then download minecraft_server.jar to anywhere, then launch it as: java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#1453 [09:44] <chowchig> What does it mean by launching it as that?
#1454 [09:44] <Mikau> That's linux
#1455 [09:44] <Mikau> for the command line
#1456 [09:44] <Mikau> to start a server
#1457 [09:44] <Kealper> chowchig: from some sort of batch file
#1458 [09:45] <Mikau> or that, if you want to use windows.
#1459 [09:45] <Kealper> and by batch i meant bash/msbatch
#1460 [09:45] <chowchig> So, I made a batch file with that command on windows and it should work right?
#1461 [09:45] <Kealper> should work, yes
#1462 [09:45] <Kealper> but there is an exe version for windows, if you wanted the gui one
#1463 [09:46] <chowchig> Nah, I don't
#1464 [09:46] <Mikau> You'll need a direct path to java
#1465 [09:46] <Kealper> the recent versions of the java installer set the path stuff up automatically
#1466 [09:46] <chowchig> And how do I do that?
#1467 [09:46] <Mikau> My computer tells me I'm retarded and to go make my own damn coffee when I just type "java"
#1468 [09:46] <Kealper> chowchig: do you know how to open a command prompt window?
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#1470 [09:47] <chowchig> Yes.
#1471 [09:47] <Kealper> open one, type java -version
#1472 [09:47] <Kealper> if it says your java version, it's already set up
#1473 [09:47] <Mikau> C:\Path\To\Some\Java.exe
#1474 [09:47] <Kealper> if it says it can't find "java" then it is not
#1475 [09:47] <chowchig> Can't find it
#1476 [09:47] <chowchig> So I'm guessing it isn't
#1477 [09:47] <Mikau> What if it says "drink tea instead"
#1478 [09:47] <Kealper> ok then...fun time
#1479 [09:48] <Mikau> chowchig, just find where Java is installed to.
#1480 [09:48] <Mikau> Should be program files > java
#1481 [09:48] <Kealper> what version of windows?
#1482 [09:48] <Mikau> or program files > sun maybe?
#1483 [09:48] <Kealper> and is it 64 bit or 32 bit
#1484 [09:48] <chowchig> Windows 7 64 bit
#1485 [09:48] <Kealper> ok then
#1486 [09:48] <Kealper> it is in C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin
#1487 [09:48] <Mikau> Why does it irritate me when people pronounce "gui" like it's a word
#1488 [09:48] <Kealper> go to the search in your start menu
#1489 [09:49] <chowchig> yep
#1490 [09:49] <Kealper> type env
#1491 [09:49] <chowchig> Like gwee lol?
#1492 [09:49] <Mikau> Yes
#1493 [09:49] <Kealper> it should come up saying "Edit enviroment blah blah"
#1494 [09:49] <Kealper> i say it as G-U-I
#1495 [09:49] <chowchig> Yeah same.
#1496 [09:49] <Mikau> Everyone should say "G-U-I"
#1497 [09:49] <Mikau> It's not a damn word
#1498 [09:49] <Kealper> some others hate me for it, and call it a "gooey".....i refuse to say that
#1499 [09:49] <quaddle> I bought the game on friday but I waiting , because my user is even now no premium user -.-
#1500 [09:49] <chowchig> Anyways environment variables?
#1501 [09:50] <Kealper> chowchig: yes, are you at the edit window?
#1502 [09:50] <Mikau> I am far too lazy to set up my server to know what "java" is
#1503 [09:50] <chowchig> Yes
#1504 [09:50] <Mikau> It took a lot less work to just grab the path to the java.exe and put that instead of "java"
#1505 [09:50] <Kealper> ok then, see one called "Path"?
#1506 [09:50] <Kealper> double click that
#1507 [09:50] <Kealper> stick ;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin
#1508 [09:50] <Kealper> on the end of it
#1509 [09:50] <Mikau> I use a StartServer.bat to start my server
#1510 [09:50] <Kealper> press ok twice, and you can now use it
#1511 [09:51] <Mikau> with a handful of -blahblah
#1512 [09:51] <Kealper> try that java -version again
#1513 [09:51] <chowchig> I don't see anything with path
#1514 [09:52] <chowchig> I see User Variables and it shows Java Temp and TMp, with New Edit and Delete buttons
#1515 [09:52] <Kealper> make a new user variable called Path
#1516 [09:52] <chowchig> And for the Variable value?
#1517 [09:52] <Kealper> C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin
#1518 [09:52] <chowchig> OKay done.
#1519 [09:52] <Mikau> "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+CMSIncrementalPacing -XX:ParallelGCThreads=2 -XX:+AggressiveOpts -jar Minecraft_Mod.jar
#1520 [09:52] <Mikau> u leik my batch?
#1521 [09:53] <Kealper> ok now press ok twice and try the java -version in a cmd window lol
#1522 [09:54] <chowchig> Stil lcan't find it
#1523 [09:54] <Kealper> ._.
#1524 [09:54] <xales> put a ; at the end Kealper
#1525 [09:54] <Kealper> it won't need it if it's a new variable
#1526 [09:54] <xales> also, user path is case sensitive
#1527 [09:54] <xales> PATH not Path
#1528 [09:54] <Kealper> is not
#1529 [09:54] <xales> *is
#1530 [09:54] <Kealper> windows is not case senstive
#1531 [09:55] <xales> do it anyway
#1532 [09:55] <Kealper> mine is Path, i've seen path, and my old server was PATH
#1533 [09:55] <chowchig> Did it.
#1534 [09:55] <chowchig> ANd still
#1535 [09:55] <chowchig> Nothing :(
#1536 [09:55] <mbentley> chowchig: did you open a new command prompt window?
#1537 [09:55] <chowchig> Yes.
#1538 [09:56] <Kealper> chowchig: uhh...in that enviroment variables window...there is a top section and a bottom section for enviroment variables, what one did you create it in?
#1539 [09:56] <chowchig> Wait
#1540 [09:56] <Mikau> Add a \ to the end
#1541 [09:56] <chowchig> Edited it to PATH
#1542 [09:56] <chowchig> and worked
#1543 [09:56] <chowchig> lol xD
#1544 [09:56] <Mikau> Or that
#1545 [09:56] <Kealper> really? FOILED AGAIN
#1546 [09:56] <Mikau> Oh that silly windows.
#1547 [09:56] <Mikau> Always keepin' a brotha down.
#1548 [09:56] * GreyVulpine blames Kealper
#1548 [09:57] <chowchig> Okay now that the path is set up
#1549 [09:57] <chowchig> Do I place the batch file
#1550 [09:57] <Kealper> ok xales, you can point fingers and say "i told you so"....
#1551 [09:57] <chowchig> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#1552 [09:57] <chowchig> In the same folder right?
#1553 [09:57] <Kealper> yes
#1554 [09:57] <chowchig> Anything specfic I should name the batch file?
#1555 [09:58] <Kealper> doesn't matter
#1556 [09:58] * xales points all 14 fingers at Kealper, saying "I told you so" once for each finger, a total of 16 times
#1556 [09:58] <chowchig> Okay, I started it up and it isn't loading
#1557 [09:58] <Mikau> StartServer.bat
#1558 [09:59] <Mikau> So it's the same name as mine
#1559 [09:59] <Mikau> Cause I'm awesome
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#1561 [09:59] <Kealper> wait a tick...are you sure it's a batch file?
#1562 [09:59] <chowchig> Mhmm.
#1563 [09:59] <Kealper> it should end in .bat, and it should have a gear or something for an icon
#1564 [09:59] <xales> what does happen when you double click it
#1565 [09:59] <chowchig> Yeah it does
#1566 [09:59] <chowchig> It closes really fast
#1567 [09:59] <xales> run it in command prompt
#1568 [10:00] <xales> or better yet
#1569 [10:00] <xales> edit the batch file
#1570 [10:00] <xales> add a new line at the end
#1571 [10:00] <Kealper> right click it, select edit, and put pause on a second line
#1572 [10:00] <xales> containing "pause"
#1573 [10:00] <Kealper> yachzee
#1574 [10:00] <chowchig> Unable to access jarfile minecraft_server.jar
#1575 [10:00] <xales> I knew it, Kealper
#1576 [10:00] <xales> right again :O
#1577 [10:00] <xales> chowchig: is minecraft_server.jar in that folder?
#1578 [10:01] <chowchig> Yes it is.
#1579 [10:01] <xales> do you have any antivirus software?
#1580 [10:01] <chowchig> AVG
#1581 [10:01] <xales> completely disable "Guardian Shield" or whatever that thing is called
#1582 [10:01] <chowchig> Wait ther eit went
#1583 [10:01] <xales> its "something-Shield" in the control panel
#1584 [10:01] <chowchig> This computer is retarded, I swear
#1585 [10:02] <chowchig> Doesn't work one try, but it works the next
#1586 [10:02] <chowchig> Though, I'm still getting the [Warning] Can't keep up!
#1587 [10:02] <chowchig> Message
#1588 [10:02] <Kealper> ignore it
#1589 [10:02] <chowchig> Alright.
#1590 [10:02] <xales> ignore it, if you only get it occasionally
#1591 [10:02] <chowchig> So, I'm ready to go?
#1592 [10:02] <Kealper> unless it spams like once a second, it's safe to ignore
#1593 [10:03] <Kealper> dangit xales lol
#1594 [10:03] <xales> >:D
#1595 [10:09] <Mikau> I like how a message pops up in my Minecraft console whenever someone browses the website for said server.
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#1598 [10:18] <Jannis234> can someone help me with my server? it says "can't keep up" and it is too slow for playing
#1599 [10:18] <Kealper> does it say that a lot?
#1600 [10:18] <Kealper> what are the server's specs?
#1601 [10:18] <Jannis234> normally every 5 seconds
#1602 [10:19] <Kealper> are you running it on it's own machine or off the same computer you play minecraft from?
#1603 [10:19] <Mikau> What are you using to launch the server?
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#1605 [10:19] <Jannis234> my normal pc (amd phenom II X6, 4 GB RAM)
#1606 [10:21] <mbentley> slow hard drive?
#1607 [10:22] <Jannis234> is 7200rpm, 7,9ms enough?
#1608 [10:22] <mbentley> i'd think so
#1609 [10:22] <xales> 7.9ms is enough
#1610 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> CPU usage?
#1611 [10:22] <mbentley> like Kealper mentioned, you run the server and client on the same pc, right?
#1612 [10:23] <mbentley> does it happen when you just run the server?
#1613 [10:23] <Jannis234> yes
#1614 [10:23] <xales> mbentley: someone was trying to run MC on a VPS the other day. getting 1.5mbs and blocking on any and every IO call
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#1616 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Could you check the processes list?
#1617 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> See how much CPU the java process is sucking up
#1618 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Also, what OS?
#1619 [10:24] <Jannis234> win7 ultimate x64
#1620 [10:24] <Jannis234> cpu is at 10%-20%
#1621 [10:26] <xales> are you launching the server with the .jar or .exe
#1622 [10:27] <Jannis234> i tried both: same error
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#1624 [10:27] <xales> does it give you the error with only the server running
#1625 [10:27] <xales> and not the client?
#1626 [10:29] <Jannis234> yes
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#1628 [10:30] <xales> do you have any other programs running
#1629 [10:30] <xales> except minecraft and the server
#1630 [10:30] <xales> when you try to play
#1631 [10:30] <Jannis234> firefox and skype
#1632 [10:31] <xales> close both and try it again
#1633 [10:32] <mbentley> might prove useful to open 'resource monitor' to see where the bottleneck might be as well...
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#1636 [10:35] <Mikau> asdf
#1637 [10:35] <Mikau> You know you missed me.
#1638 [10:35] <Mikau> Life was incomplete without me.
#1639 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> Who are you again?
#1640 [10:35] <Mikau> Who am I not?
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#1642 [10:37] <Jannis234> error is still there :(
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#1645 [10:39] <Catch`fl1r> Soo... MC is extremely laggy? What could it be? Got a good computer with 4 GB RAM etc
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#1647 [10:40] <Catch`fl1r> '
#1648 [10:41] <Catch`fl1r> Anyone? :s
#1649 [10:41] <Mikau> .
#1650 [10:41] <Mikau> Stupid network
#1651 [10:42] <Catch`fl1r> In browser mode does not lagg
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#1653 [10:44] <chowchig> Sooo, how could I install hmod?
#1654 [10:45] <chowchig> Anyone?
#1655 [10:46] <Kealper> we don't provide support for mods, but you can check out http://wiki.hey0.net if you wanted to know
#1656 [10:47] <Catch`fl1r> Kealper (16:39:25) (Catch`fl1r) Soo... MC is extremely laggy? What could it be? Got a good computer with 4 GB RAM etc
#1657 [10:48] <xales> Catch`fl1r: what graphics card
#1658 [10:48] <Kealper> define lag? blocks reappearing after you destroy them? or everything runs choppy as heck?
#1659 [10:48] <Catch`fl1r> ZOTAC, new thingy
#1660 [10:48] <Catch`fl1r> Lagg, freezes
#1661 [10:48] <Catch`fl1r> Randomly every 2-3 secs
#1662 [10:48] <xales> Jannis234: it sounds like your machine isn't up to running a server
#1663 [10:49] <xales> Catch`fl1r: hold F3 and see what the framerate is
#1664 [10:49] <Mikau> JVM can only use 1GB of RAM
#1665 [10:49] <Mikau> So having 1GB or having 100GB is irrelivant
#1666 [10:49] <Mikau> Well, unless you want to use the same machine to do other things
#1667 [10:49] <xales> it can use more, it isn't allocated more than 1gb by default
#1668 [10:49] <Kealper> actually having 1 gig of ram is relevant, since the OS needs ram too
#1669 [10:50] <Mikau> I've never gotten it to use more than 1GB
#1670 [10:50] <xales> Mikau: because you didn't allocate more than 1GB
#1671 [10:50] <Kealper> CLI params on the jar
#1672 [10:50] <Mikau> I try to allot more and it freaks out.
#1673 [10:50] <Mikau> My server has 12GB of RAM
#1674 [10:50] <Catch`fl1r> entire game just really freezes, reinstalled a couple of times
#1675 [10:50] <xales> Catch`fl1r: does it unfreeze after a couple seconds
#1676 [10:50] <Catch`fl1r> yes
#1677 [10:51] <xales> as I said
#1678 [10:51] <xales> hold down F3
#1679 [10:51] <Catch`fl1r> and then goes back to freeze
#1680 [10:51] <xales> while playing
#1681 [10:51] <xales> and tell me what "FPS" says
#1682 [10:51] <xales> in the top right, I believe
#1683 [10:51] <Mikau> hold down F3, tap alt, let go of F3, then click the screen
#1684 [10:51] <Catch`fl1r> all from 255 to 0
#1685 [10:51] <Kealper> also...have you waited for longer than 1 minute to see if it still happens?
#1686 [10:51] <xales> Catch`fl1r: the FPS is one number
#1687 [10:52] <Catch`fl1r> I know what fps is
#1688 [10:52] <Mikau> So how exactly would I tell the JVM to use more RAM?
#1689 [10:52] <Catch`fl1r> And as I said, it changes from 0 to 255
#1690 [10:52] <xales> and what is it?
#1691 [10:52] <Catch`fl1r> frames per second
#1692 [10:52] <xales> Catch`fl1r: do you have the latest graphics card drivers installed
#1693 [10:52] <Catch`fl1r> yes
#1694 [10:52] <xales> and what are the CPU and graphics card that you have
#1695 [10:52] <Mikau> What kind of graphics card is it?
#1696 [10:52] <Catch`fl1r> Game was fine until today
#1697 [10:52] <Catch`fl1r> ZOTAC something
#1698 [10:53] <Mikau> I have a 8200M G in this laptop
#1699 [10:53] <Mikau> and it derps on Minecraft a bit
#1700 [10:53] <xales> Catch`fl1r: do a benchmark on hdd use
#1701 [10:54] <Catch`fl1r> Ehh, okay, how do I do that?
#1702 [10:54] <Mikau> benchpress your computer
#1703 [10:54] <Mikau> You can do it, I believe in you.
#1704 [10:54] <Catch`fl1r> I can in fact do it.
#1705 [10:54] <xales> one second
#1706 [10:54] <Mikau> Benchmark - the stain left after a fat kid gets up off the bench.
#1707 [10:54] <Mikau> :(
#1708 [10:54] <Catch`fl1r> :-D
#1709 [10:54] <Kealper> i can bench my computer as well, but that does not count, since my case is aluminum lol
#1710 [10:55] <Kealper> and lol @ benchmark
#1711 [10:55] <Mikau> I don't have a case.
#1712 [10:55] <xales> Catch`fl1r: http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe
#1713 [10:55] <Mikau> I hang my computer around my neck like a bling medalion while I use my computer
#1714 [10:55] <Catch`fl1r> Antec Hightower, piece of cake
#1715 [10:55] <xales> Kealper: something is blocking if it is dropping to 0
#1716 [10:56] <Kealper> indeed
#1717 [10:56] <Catch`fl1r> okay, now what
#1718 [10:56] <Kealper> it's either being denied cpu time, or something
#1719 [10:56] <Kealper> Catch`fl1r: do you have antivirus software installed (don't disable it or anything just yet, just yes or no)
#1720 [10:56] <Catch`fl1r> Yes, Kaspersky
#1721 [10:56] <Mikau> EWWWW
#1722 [10:56] <Kealper> is it scanning right now?
#1723 [10:57] <Catch`fl1r> Nope
#1724 [10:57] * Mikau moves away from Catch
#1724 [10:57] <Mikau> You're ewwy
#1725 [10:57] <xales> oh
#1726 [10:57] <Kealper> have you tried disabling it?
#1727 [10:57] <xales> yeah, disable kasperspy
#1728 [10:57] <Catch`fl1r> No, but it have worked fine until now :P
#1729 [10:57] <Mikau> uninstall it and wash your computer.
#1730 [10:57] <Mikau> Your computer needs computer therapy
#1731 [10:57] <Kealper> disregard Mikau
#1732 [10:58] <Kealper> also
#1733 [10:58] <Mikau> The only thing worse than krapsparsky is Norton
#1734 [10:58] <Catch`fl1r> Weird, it worked, thanks.. It's even a Gamer-AV :O
#1735 [10:58] <Catch`fl1r> Kaspersky is great
#1736 [10:58] <Kealper> Catch`fl1r: it was probably scanning in the background
#1737 [10:58] <Catch`fl1r> dirty antiviruses
#1738 [10:59] <Mikau> Avast is great.
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#1740 [10:59] <Mikau> Krapsparsky is the devil
#1741 [10:59] <Mikau> Norton is his bitchy wife.
#1742 [10:59] <Kealper> Avira is nice, too...it's got one of those on-access scanners so it does not need to run full scans all the time
#1743 [10:59] <Catch`fl1r> Avast is such a-wast(e) xP
#1744 [10:59] <xales> all anti viruses are crap
#1745 [10:59] <xales> the passive ones are the only ones worth having
#1746 [10:59] <Mikau> McCafee is their hidious red-headed step child
#1747 [10:59] <xales> for any users who are A: gamers B: intelligent enough to watch what they download
#1748 [11:00] <Puddles> And here I was, thinking that only Canadians liked McAfee
#1749 [11:00] <Mikau> Avast is smart, it scans your computer while the screen saver is on.
#1750 [11:00] <Catch`fl1r> My dad uses Webroot to delete all his porn cookies :G
#1751 [11:00] <Mikau> When your screensaver isn't on, it sits idly and does as it's told.
#1752 [11:00] <Catch`fl1r> So does Kaspersky, if you tell it to
#1753 [11:00] <Kealper> xales: yeah, i went for a few years without av, but avira uses absolutely no resources and it does not interfere so i keep it lol
#1754 [11:01] <Mikau> My father used that mccaffee crap
#1755 [11:01] <xales> Kealper: clamav is much better
#1756 [11:01] <xales> clamwin, rather
#1757 [11:01] <Mikau> The Anti-virus itself got a virus
#1758 [11:01] <Mikau> and they tried to sell him another program for $60 to virus scan their virus scanner
#1759 [11:01] <Kealper> xales: i used to have that on my flashdrive lol
#1760 [11:01] <Mikau> He's been using Avast ever since. ;)
#1761 [11:01] <Kealper> lol
#1762 [11:02] <Catch`fl1r> Can I run a MC server over hamachi without portforwarding?
#1763 [11:02] <Kealper> yes, but we won't say how
#1764 [11:02] <Catch`fl1r> pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease? <3
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#1766 [11:02] <Kealper> so if you already know how to use hamachi, you are good to go
#1767 [11:02] <Mikau> Can I raaan I ran so far awaaay
#1768 [11:02] <Catch`fl1r> *
#1769 [11:02] <Mikau> and I raaaan
#1770 [11:02] <Catch`fl1r> Ah okay
#1771 [11:02] <Mikau> I raan all night and daaaay
#1772 [11:02] <Mikau> :P
#1773 [11:03] <Catch`fl1r> Runaway from me baby, runaway
#1774 [11:03] <Catch`fl1r> Baby I got a plan, runaway's fast as you can
#1775 [11:03] <xales> Hamachi
#1776 [11:03] <Mikau> I have learned 2 things during this lecture on Java
#1777 [11:03] <xales> is a bit slow for MC
#1778 [11:03] <Mikau> 1. My professor is very chinese.
#1779 [11:03] <Catch`fl1r> '
#1780 [11:03] <Mikau> 2. My school network sucks donkey balls.
#1781 [11:03] <Mikau> What a great first day.
#1782 [11:03] <Catch`fl1r> Another progrm perhaps xales?
#1783 [11:04] <xales> Catch`fl1r: just port-forward
#1784 [11:04] <Mikau> You could just port forward
#1785 [11:04] <Mikau> lawl
#1786 [11:04] <xales> hamachi type things are too slo
#1787 [11:04] <xales> w
#1788 [11:04] <Catch`fl1r> Dont got password to router
#1789 [11:04] <Catch`fl1r> :D
#1790 [11:04] <xales> umm, do you own the router?
#1791 [11:04] <Catch`fl1r> Because it's not default
#1792 [11:04] <Catch`fl1r> No :D
#1793 [11:04] <xales> are you on a college network?
#1794 [11:04] <Catch`fl1r> No
#1795 [11:04] <Catch`fl1r> :x
#1796 [11:05] <Mikau> Are you stealing internet?
#1797 [11:05] <xales> who does own the router
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#1799 [11:05] <Catch`fl1r> If I tell you that I would have to kill you
#1800 [11:05] <xales> I'm not going to help you unless you tell me
#1801 [11:05] <xales> >.>
#1802 [11:05] <Mikau> He's probably stealing wireless internet.
#1803 [11:05] <xales> Mikau: probably
#1804 [11:05] <Catch`fl1r> I'm on cable
#1805 [11:05] <Kealper> oh most likely
#1806 [11:06] <Kealper> oh, so he's stealing landline, even more hardcore
#1807 [11:06] <xales> on cable, Kealper
#1808 [11:06] <xales> the person he is stealing the wifi from has cable
#1809 [11:06] <Catch`fl1r> Nah I just dont got the password, no one does
#1810 [11:06] <xales> :\
#1811 [11:06] <xales> Catch`fl1r: then reset the router?
#1812 [11:06] <xales> lol
#1813 [11:06] <Catch`fl1r> I dont dare
#1814 [11:06] <Mikau> What model is it?
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#1816 [11:06] <Catch`fl1r> Zytex
#1817 [11:07] <Catch`fl1r> something
#1818 [11:07] <Mikau> You know that there's multiple entrances for routers, right?
#1819 [11:07] <xXGameXx> hello can sb help me?
#1820 [11:07] <Mikau> A general user, and an administrator.
#1821 [11:07] <Mikau> even though the general user says admin, it's not really
#1822 [11:07] <xales> xXGameXx: nobody in #minecrafthelp can provide help
#1823 [11:07] <Kealper> lol
#1824 [11:07] <Mikau> There's a higher level entrance for most routers for changing firmware and the like.
#1825 [11:07] <xales> what do you need help with?
#1826 [11:07] <Catch`fl1r> Postef 8820F
#1827 [11:08] <Catch`fl1r> U * not F
#1828 [11:08] <xXGameXx> can i use mods in minecraft beta and how i can instill the mods?
#1829 [11:08] <Kealper> xXGameXx: yes, and we don't provide support for mods in here, so you will have to find and install those on your own
#1830 [11:08] <Mikau> Google is telling me that zytex is a place to get sperm.
#1831 [11:08] <xXGameXx> okay thxs
#1832 [11:09] <Catch`fl1r> Google lies
#1833 [11:09] <Mikau> Are you sure you're looking at a router?
#1834 [11:09] <Kealper> http://portforward.com
#1835 [11:09] <Catch`fl1r> I dont know another name for it
#1836 [11:09] <xales> Mikau: lol
#1837 [11:09] <Catch`fl1r> Postef 8820 U
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#1839 [11:09] <Catch`fl1r> ^
#1840 [11:10] <Catch`fl1r> Downloaded simple port forwarding, says i've opened the port but at canyouseeme.org it says otherwise
#1841 [11:10] <Catch`fl1r> "NOT FOUND error"
#1842 [11:10] <xales> you don't download anything
#1843 [11:10] <xales> you change the options in the router
#1844 [11:10] <Mikau> Did you try "admin" as the username and password?
#1845 [11:11] <xales> if you don't know the password, try all defaults. if they don't work, reset the router
#1846 [11:11] <Catch`fl1r> "password" doesn't work and "admin" doesn't work
#1847 [11:11] <Mikau> username: admin
#1848 [11:11] <Mikau> password: admin
#1849 [11:11] <Mikau> Did you try that?
#1850 [11:11] <Mikau> y/n
#1851 [11:11] <Catch`fl1r> Yes
#1852 [11:11] <Mikau> k
#1853 [11:11] <xales> does it only ask for a password or a username as well
#1854 [11:11] <Catch`fl1r> both
#1855 [11:12] <xales> put admin as username and no password
#1856 [11:12] <Catch`fl1r> wat
#1857 [11:12] <xales> leave the password blank
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#1859 [11:12] <xales> and admin as username
#1860 [11:12] <Catch`fl1r> I did, and it worked (<3) therefor my "wat"
#1861 [11:12] <xales> hahaha
#1862 [11:14] <Catch`fl1r> Now I got to find out how i forward on this badboy
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#1864 [11:18] <Mikau> Pay it Forward
#1865 [11:18] <Catch`fl1r> one of my favourite movies
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#1867 [11:20] <Catch`fl1r> Mikau whats the MC port again? 25565?
#1868 [11:20] <HCTK> hello
#1869 [11:20] <HCTK> i have a lil question
#1870 [11:20] <Catch`fl1r> xales then? :F
#1871 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> It's 25565
#1872 [11:20] <HCTK> 2 friends and I want to buy minecraft
#1873 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> TCP
#1874 [11:21] <HCTK> but our problem..nobody of us have paypal
#1875 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a credit card?
#1876 [11:21] <HCTK> nope
#1877 [11:21] <mbentley> bank account?
#1878 [11:21] <Catch`fl1r> Good luck in life, mate
#1879 [11:21] <HCTK> i am 18 and live at my mom´s house^^
#1880 [11:22] <mbentley> HCTK: bank account?
#1881 [11:22] <HCTK> yes
#1882 [11:22] <mbentley> then you can sign up for paypal
#1883 [11:22] <HCTK> but on the hp of minecraft is only credit card or paypal
#1884 [11:22] <HCTK> i don´t know how works paypal
#1885 [11:22] <mbentley> paypal can pull funds from your bank account
#1886 [11:23] <Catch`fl1r> Not if he's underage
#1887 [11:23] <mbentley> he is 18...
#1888 [11:23] <HCTK> yes i am 18^^
#1889 [11:23] <Catch`fl1r> His other friends? :D
#1890 [11:23] <mbentley> he can buy them gift codes
#1891 [11:23] <mbentley> they pay him baclk
#1892 [11:23] <mbentley> *back
#1893 [11:23] <HCTK> ok
#1894 [11:23] <HCTK> i try it with paypal
#1895 [11:23] <HCTK> thx a lot
#1896 [11:24] <Catch`fl1r> Error: I could not see your service on 88.89.59.173 on port (25565)
#1897 [11:24] <Catch`fl1r> Reason: Connection refused
#1898 [11:24] <Catch`fl1r> da fudge
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#1900 [11:28] <chowchig> No idea if it is a minecraft problem
#1901 [11:28] <chowchig> But how come I can't make my cmd window bigger?
#1902 [11:28] <xales> Catch`fl1r: if the server isnt running
#1903 [11:28] <xales> the "port forward" check won't work
#1904 [11:28] <xales> chowchig: because cmd.exe is a piece of shit
#1905 [11:28] <Catch`fl1r> :/
#1906 [11:28] <xales> as is all windows software
#1907 [11:30] <chowchig> Soo, no way to make it wider?
#1908 [11:30] <mbentley> you can...
#1909 [11:31] <mbentley> right click on the title bar, properties then on the layout tab, change 'windows size'
#1910 [11:31] <mbentley> increase the width
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#1913 [11:31] <chowchig> Hmm, but the text still wraps around
#1914 [11:32] <xales> windows = garbage
#1915 [11:32] <xales> as I said
#1916 [11:32] <xales> :\
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#1919 [11:34] <chowchig> nvm got it to work
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#1924 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> holy netsplit
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#1926 [11:52] <Kealper> <3 irssi
#1927 [11:53] <mbentley> ^^ +1
#1928 [11:53] <Kealper> it just tells me there was a netsplit, and says about 5-6 names and says type /netsplit to see all of them
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#1956 [11:54] <mbentley> so much better than 'HOLY CRAP THERE IS A NETSPLIT!! I MUST TELL YOU EVERYONE'S NAME BECAUSE YOU REALLY CARE!'
#1957 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1958 [11:54] <Kealper> 11:53:57 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rev-lemon, Tonux, Neological, peru, Kurimus, @Iguana, Wijk, [Husky]Shnaw, Katsumi, magik (+16 more)
#1959 [11:54] <xales> <3
#1960 [11:54] <xales> irssi is best for that
#1961 [11:54] <Kealper> indeed
#1962 [11:55] <Kealper> alright afk for nwo
#1963 [11:55] <Kealper> now*
#1964 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Buh bye
#1965 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Also.
#1966 [11:55] * GreyVulpine stabs xales's FINGER
#1966 [11:55] * xales FINGERs GreyVulpine
#1966 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Kinky
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#1968 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#1969 [11:58] <crickets> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.711 Seconds.
#1970 [11:58] <xales> crickts is a stupid bot
#1971 [11:58] * crickets bonks xales, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1971 [11:58] <xales> crickts is a stupid bot
#1972 [11:58] <xales> crickts is a stupid bot
#1973 [11:58] <xales> crickts is a stupid bot
#1974 [11:58] * crickets bonks xales, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1974 [11:58] * crickets bonks xales, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1974 [11:58] * crickets bonks xales, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1974 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> !grey off
#1975 [11:58] * xales kicks xales from #minecrafthelp [BOT ABUSE :O]
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#1978 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#1979 [11:59] <crickets> GreyVulpine: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (11:58a Jan 10 11) temp(26.0 F / -3.3 C, feels like 26 F / -3 C) cond(Clear) wind(East at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(77%) dewpnt(20 F / -7 C) bp(30.50 in / 1032.7 hPa (Falling)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(2 out of 16)
#1980 [11:59] <crickets> Today: Partly sunny...then becoming mostly cloudy late. Highs 24 to 28. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.
#1981 [11:59] <xales> lol
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#1983 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Hey there TW
#1984 [12:00] <mbentley> cold day in hell
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#1986 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is
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#1989 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> Good god there's a lot of timeouts in #minecraft
#1990 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> espernet's having fun.
#1991 [12:02] <LG_Legacy> Someones doing a DCC
#1992 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#1993 [12:02] <LG_Legacy> Maybe
#1994 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> I'm not seeing anything, and I run mIRC
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#1999 [12:06] <xales> I think its server issues
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#2007 [12:24] <dopeghoti> Guess I missed some.. fun over the weekend?
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#2009 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> Fun?
#2010 [12:25] <Tobias454> i need help with my accont
#2011 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> What about it Tobias454?
#2012 [12:25] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: I come back to IRC and I see the channel had been purged. Attempted takeover or somesuch?
#2013 [12:25] <Tobias454> can i speak germanß
#2014 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Bot attack.
#2015 [12:26] <DopeGhoti> Ich weiss nicht, koennst du?
#2016 [12:26] <Tobias454> ich habe meinen minecraft ordner aus versehen geändert
#2017 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> CTCP floods and join/part attacks hit #minecraft, #MineCraftHelp, #hey0, #bukkit, #smp... and those were just the ones I was in
#2018 [12:27] <xales> DopeGhoti: can't take over a channel on a chanserv network
#2019 [12:27] <Tobias454> und nun sagt er mir, dass ich keinen premium account mehr hab
#2020 [12:27] <xales> not for reals, anyway
#2021 [12:27] <xales> DopeGhoti: translate for me
#2022 [12:27] <Tobias454> aber spielen kann ich noch
#2023 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Probably not getting premium after buying it
#2024 [12:28] <DopeGhoti> xales: hence 'attempted'
#2025 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> Or something similar
#2026 [12:28] <xales> DopeGhoti: you know what I mean >.>
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#2028 [12:29] <DopeGhoti> Tobias454: Manchmal dauert es einen Tag oder mehr für eine Bestellung bearbeitet werden sollen.
#2029 [12:29] <Tobias454> ich spiele minecraft schon seit monatewn
#2030 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - You okay there?
#2031 [12:30] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: I try to be. :)
#2032 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Heh, alright then.
#2033 [12:30] <DopeGhoti> Tobias454: Hast du Minecraft gekauft?
#2034 [12:30] <DopeGhoti> (Meinst 'du'?)
#2035 [12:31] <Tobias454> ich hatte bei dem versuch ein textuere pack einzufügen ausversehen den .minecraft ordner verändert
#2036 [12:31] <Tobias454> ja schon in der alpha
#2037 [12:32] <Tobias454> spielen geht noch
#2038 [12:32] <DopeGhoti> Und da die Installation der Texturen, können Sie nicht mehr anmelden? Haben Sie versucht, in die Website anmelden? Sie sind mit Windows oder einem anderen Betriebssystem?
#2039 [12:33] <Tobias454> xp
#2040 [12:33] <Tobias454> und online sagt er mir nun auch, dass ich keinen premium account mehr hab
#2041 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> Um sicher zu sein verstehe ich du richtig, habst du die 'minecraft' Verzeichnis gelöscht? Was ist deine registrierten Account-Namen?
#2042 [12:35] <xales> dope, are you using google translate or do you actually speak german
#2043 [12:35] <Tobias454> aber wenn ich die exe starte, dann sagt er nach demm log in , egal was für ein passwort ich eingebe
#2044 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> xales: a little of both.
#2045 [12:35] <Tobias454> Tobias454
#2046 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> !paid Tobias454
#2047 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> Bist du sicher?
#2048 [12:36] <Tobias454> ja ist schon länger her seit ich es gekauft habe
#2049 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> xales: you can tell what I've translated because Google Translate insists on the formal tone rather than familiar/informal
#2050 [12:36] <Tobias454> damals für 10 euro
#2051 [12:37] <xales> DopeGhoti: I can't read german so I can't tell
#2052 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> Tobias454: Und du bist sicher von Ihrem Benutzernamen? 'Tobias454' ist nicht bezahlt.
#2053 [12:38] <Tobias454> nicht ganz hundert prozentig erhrlich gesagt
#2054 [12:39] <Tobias454> is schon länger her
#2055 [12:39] <Tobias454> benutzername war immer drin und ich hab einfach immer nur eingelogt
#2056 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> Du sollst trotzhdem dain Einkauf Bestätigungsmail. Sende eine Nachricht an Sie mit der Kaufbestätigung Zahl payments@mojang.com und du sollst in der Lage zu deinem Konto erhalten reaktiviert, oder eine Erinnerung an deinen Benutzernamen ein.
#2057 [12:40] <xales> Dope
#2058 [12:40] <xales> what is the issue
#2059 [12:41] <xales> >.>
#2060 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> xales: had to delete Minecraft; now can't log in and isn't 100% certain of his username
#2061 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> http://minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp ?
#2062 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Does he remember the email address?
#2063 [12:42] <xales> >.>
#2064 [12:43] <DopeGhoti> Tobias454: Erinners di dich die Adresse, die du dich anmelden?
#2065 [12:43] <DopeGhoti> (whoo, I can even typo auf Deutsch!)
#2066 [12:43] <Tobias454> leider nein
#2067 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> I take that as a no.
#2068 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
#2069 [12:45] <xales> DopeGhoti: paypal? email confirmation?
#2070 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> Tobias454: Hast du noch deine Kaufbestätigung E-Mail von PayPal? Es sollte die Adresse sein.
#2071 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> xales: I was getting to that ;)
#2072 [12:45] <xales> that was a translate, I'm guessing?
#2073 [12:45] <Tobias454> ich habe denn acount damals von nem kumpel bezahlan lassen
#2074 [12:45] <Tobias454> müsste ihn fragen
#2075 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> Moeglich.
#2076 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> xales: yes; wasn't sure of the word for "purchase confirmation" :)
#2077 [12:46] <xales> lol
#2078 [12:46] <xales> what does "Moeglich" mean
#2079 [12:46] <xales> :O
#2080 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> "Possibly"
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#2082 [12:49] <xales> interesting
#2083 [12:50] <Solvius> does annyone know how to install two monitors on win 7 ? :)
#2084 [12:50] <DopeGhoti> Tut mir Leid, dass wir du micht mehr helfen koennen. Du sollst eine E-Mail an payments@mojang.com senden. Habst schwein!
#2085 [12:50] <DopeGhoti> Solvius: Plug them.. in?
#2086 [12:50] <xales> Solvius: plug both monitors into graphics card
#2087 [12:50] <xales> open graphics options
#2088 [12:50] <Mikau1> .
#2089 [12:50] <DopeGhoti> and in your display settings, enable the second display. That's all I had to do
#2090 [12:50] <Solvius> I did dope, i have a picture but they are not one
#2091 [12:50] <xales> set monitor 2 to enabled
#2092 [12:51] <Solvius> The second one will not be desktop
#2093 [12:51] <Solvius> I see the picture I have on mintor 1
#2094 [12:51] <Solvius> monitor that is :D
#2095 [12:51] <DopeGhoti> Ah, check 'Extend my desktop onto this monitor"
#2096 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> you're in cloning mode.
#2097 [12:52] <Solvius> that does noting
#2098 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> ..followed by 'apply'?
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#2100 [12:52] <Solvius> I have resolution the same
#2101 [12:52] <Solvius> nope nothing
#2102 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> what video card?
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#2104 [12:52] <Solvius> gts 450
#2105 [12:53] <DopeGhoti> current drivers?
#2106 [12:53] <Solvius> newest one
#2107 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> Did you reboot with both monitors plugged in?
#2108 [12:53] <DopeGhoti> hmm, that should be all you need to do.
#2109 [12:53] <Solvius> but I had something strange with that
#2110 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> Or did you plug the other one in afterwards
#2111 [12:53] <DopeGhoti> define "something strange"
#2112 [12:54] <Solvius> I have win 7 64 bit, but that drivers are not compatible with my windows version, altough thats what it said, so I instaklled the 32 bit
#2113 [12:54] <DopeGhoti> that's baffling
#2114 [12:54] <Solvius> hmmm I will reboot, wait a sec, didnt do that
#2115 [12:54] <DopeGhoti> I have an nvidia card, with 64-bit drivers installed.
#2116 [12:54] <DopeGhoti> ..bye, now.
#2117 [12:54] <xales> DopeGhoti: I have an nvidia card with 256-bit drivers installed
#2118 [12:54] <xales> and a 400 core cpu at 94ghz
#2119 [12:54] <DopeGhoti> xales: that's.. impressive.
#2120 [12:54] <xales> with 2tb of ram
#2121 [12:55] <xales> because I am just cool like that
#2122 [12:55] <DopeGhoti> "* xales is now known as Cray"
#2123 [12:55] * xales hates people that actually says that and expects to be believed. sigh. fucktards
#2123 [12:55] <xales> I'll be back in a second >.>
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#2125 [12:56] <Solvius> well, reboot didnt work :(
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#2126 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> Solvius: I have an nvidia card, with 64-bit drivers installed. Are you sure that the message you got indicated otherwise?
#2127 [12:58] <Solvius> when installing the 64 bit drivers it said, not compatible, and wanted to close
#2128 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> Solvius: I'm about 87% certain that the message had more than those two words.
#2129 [12:59] <Solvius> closing was the only option :)
#2130 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> Yes, but the other words may shed light on why the drivers weren't allowing themselves to be installed.
#2131 [12:59] <xales> did you download the correct 64 bit driver?
#2132 [12:59] <xales> >.>
#2133 [12:59] <Solvius> I can try it again, wait a sec
#2134 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> ^ that's the sort of thing the mysterious other words might shed light upon
#2135 [13:00] * DopeGhoti may be getting snarky, but it's irksome when someone asking for help talkes about "some message that I didn't make a note of that was obviously relevant to the problem".
#2135 [13:00] <Solvius> 260.99_desktop_win7_winvista_64bit_english_whql
#2136 [13:01] <xales> Dope
#2137 [13:01] <xales> school sucks
#2138 [13:01] <xales> will you burn down all schools in the world for me
#2139 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> speaking of relevance
#2140 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> no, I will not participate in serial arson, but thanks for the invite.
#2141 [13:01] * xales already knows everything in 4/5ths of his classes
#2141 [13:01] <Katsumi> Okay.
#2142 [13:01] * xales and the 1/5th is useless
#2142 [13:01] <Katsumi> Xales?
#2143 [13:02] <xales> Katsumi
#2144 [13:02] <Katsumi> I did the malware scan.
#2145 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> "only 80% You do have something to learn!" :)
#2146 [13:02] <Solvius> well, that version of the drivers is not compitable with the current windows version :D not compitable
#2147 [13:02] <xales> Solvius: what exactly is the error
#2148 [13:02] <xales> Katsumi: and?
#2149 [13:02] <Solvius> that is what it says
#2150 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> Solvius: and also, are you certain you're running a 64-bit version of Windows?
#2151 [13:03] <Solvius> they sold it to me for that LOL
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#2154 [13:03] <lukegb> Solvius: press the windows key and break at the same time
#2155 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> (open start menu, right-click 'Computer', click Properties. It'll tell you there)
#2156 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> ^ or that.
#2157 [13:03] <xales> lukegb: sysrq-i is more fun
#2158 [13:03] <lukegb> Solvius: tell us if that says '32-bit' or '64-bit'
#2159 [13:03] <lukegb> xales: magic sysrq!
#2160 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> xales: explaining SysRq is less fun ;)
#2161 [13:03] <Solvius> I am searching for it
#2162 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> also, Windows respects SysRq? This is new to me.
#2163 [13:04] <xales> it doesn't
#2164 [13:04] <xales> still more fun
#2165 [13:05] <Solvius> damn windows 7 home premium 32 bit
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#2167 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> well, that explains that.
#2168 [13:06] <gamakichi> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 2011-01-10 19:05 Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.1_02 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java:
#2169 [13:06] <gamakichi> help
#2170 [13:06] <Solvius> Now I am pissed, and offcourse the shops are closed
#2171 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#2172 [13:06] <gamakichi> like witch one?
#2173 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> gamakichi: what video card?
#2174 [13:06] <gamakichi> what?
#2175 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> gamakichi: what video card ahve you?
#2176 [13:07] <Solvius> well, the videocard drivers for 32 bit did install, but I cant use two monitors
#2177 [13:07] <gamakichi> i dont know :s
#2178 [13:07] <xales> Solvius: does your card support multi-monitor
#2179 [13:08] <gamakichi> how do i check that?
#2180 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> Read The Friendly Manual?
#2181 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> gamakichi - Windows?
#2182 [13:08] <gamakichi> windows 7
#2183 [13:08] <Solvius> yes xales, it also does a tv
#2184 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> gamakichi - Start -> type in search bar -> "dxdiag"
#2185 [13:09] <xales> by that I mean, it may have more than one port. but it may not actually support multimonitor
#2186 [13:09] <Solvius> hmmm
#2187 [13:09] <gamakichi> yes
#2188 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Button on the bottom right
#2189 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> "Save all information"
#2190 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#2191 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> and it may support multiple monitors, but only in cloning mode
#2192 [13:10] <xales> ^
#2193 [13:10] <gamakichi> yes i see it
#2194 [13:10] <Solvius> I see no cloning mode, I see extend this monitor to another one
#2195 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> Save it
#2196 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> Text file, somewhere where you can open i tup
#2197 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> it up*
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#2199 [13:11] <gamakichi> it is much oO
#2200 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> gamakichi - Do you have it saved and open?
#2201 [13:12] <gamakichi> in it
#2202 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> There's a lot in it, yes
#2203 [13:12] <gamakichi> what now?
#2204 [13:12] <Katsumi> Sorry about that. Anyways, Xales, after a full scan, I removed two pieces of malware. The minecraft launcher still won't run.
#2205 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> Please copy the contents of it and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#2206 [13:12] <xales> Katsumi: what were the names of the things you removed
#2207 [13:12] <Katsumi> Backdoor, I think.
#2208 [13:13] <gamakichi> shall i copy all?
#2209 [13:13] <xales> you should probably reformat then
#2210 [13:13] <Katsumi> Why?
#2211 [13:13] <xales> that will definately fix it
#2212 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes please
#2213 [13:13] <Solvius> yes, I solved it :)
#2214 [13:13] <xales> and your system is probably compromised
#2215 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> Copy all of it
#2216 [13:13] <Solvius> thnx guys for helping
#2217 [13:14] <xales> \
#2218 [13:14] <Solvius> I needed to go into the menu of Nvidia, not windows
#2219 [13:14] <Katsumi> I really really don't want to have to reformat my computer.
#2220 [13:14] <xales> Katsumi: I think the problem with launching the .exe is related to having a backdoor on your computer
#2221 [13:15] <xales> there are quite a few things that exploit flaws in java
#2222 [13:15] <Katsumi> Are there any alternatives?
#2223 [13:15] <xales> not one
#2224 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> gamakichi - Do you have a URL?
#2225 [13:16] <gamakichi> URL?
#2226 [13:16] <Katsumi> I don't have an install disk for my OS. I can't afford the downtime a reformat would require.
#2227 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> After pasting it at pastebin.com
#2228 [13:17] <gamakichi> uhm i had posted it
#2229 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us the link to it?
#2230 [13:18] <gamakichi> http://pastebin.com/KJRK2fk2
#2231 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> You're running a Radeon X1600 Series
#2232 [13:19] <gamakichi> a what?
#2233 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Please go to http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2234 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Look for a Radeon X1600 series video card driver
#2235 [13:20] <gamakichi> uhm what shall i do on step one?
#2236 [13:20] <gamakichi> i think i found it
#2237 [13:21] <gamakichi> just think
#2238 [13:22] <gamakichi> i cant see Radeon X1600 Series in desktop Graphics
#2239 [13:23] <xales> it isn't a desktop card
#2240 [13:23] <xales> it says mobility on it
#2241 [13:23] <xales> on google, anyway
#2242 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> Ah, sweet, suculent mobile "GPU"s.
#2243 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Isn't the 1600 a desktop as well?
#2244 [13:24] <mbentley> yes it is
#2245 [13:25] <mbentley> 1.) desktop 2.) radeon x series 3.) radeon x1xxx series
#2246 [13:25] <gamakichi> oO
#2247 [13:28] <gamakichi> ok i did that shall i just donw load 1 of those 2 i got?
#2248 [13:29] <gamakichi> well those 2 that they showed me
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#2250 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#2251 [13:29] <mbentley> i'd get the catalyst software suite
#2252 [13:30] <gamakichi> ok i try that one
#2253 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: oh god why?
#2254 [13:31] <xales> DopeGhoti: for the *ahem*noncomputerliterate*ahem*, its easier
#2255 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> <mode="cranky_old_man">I remember the days when men were real men, cars were real cars, and drivers were real drivers. Now get off my lawn!</mode>
#2256 [13:32] * xales removes DopeGhoti from DopeGhoti's lawn
#2256 [13:32] * xales with a car with a driver in it, both which are fake
#2256 [13:32] <mbentley> well if it were me, i would drop kick myself in the face for having an ati card...
#2257 [13:32] <xales> I'd help you out there
#2258 [13:33] <mbentley> :)
#2259 [13:33] <xales> hey Grey
#2260 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: I really want to like ATI^WAMD's video cards, but their Linux support is terrible. So I get by on just their CPUs.
#2261 [13:33] <xales> look over at that other channel in which TW is asking you a question :O
#2262 [13:34] <mbentley> DopeGhoti: exactly why i refuse to buy ati cards anymore
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#2264 [13:34] <chowchig> Where would I go to get mod help?
#2265 [13:34] <mbentley> which mod?
#2266 [13:34] <chowchig> Well plugin help for hmod, Iconomy
#2267 [13:34] <mbentley> they might be able to help in #hey0 ?
#2268 [13:35] <chowchig> Okay thanks
#2269 [13:35] <mbentley> np
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#2271 [13:37] <gamakichi> OMG
#2272 [13:38] <gamakichi> thank you all for the help
#2273 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> gamakichi: that'll be $8.
#2274 [13:38] <gamakichi> what?
#2275 [13:38] <gamakichi> i dont have a crad
#2276 [13:38] <gamakichi> :<
#2277 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> (that was what he call a "joke".)
#2278 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> er, we
#2279 [13:38] <gamakichi> i know :P
#2280 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> It's actually 30 bucks
#2281 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> But we accept western union
#2282 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2283 [13:39] <gamakichi> i am in sweden :)
#2284 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> So is Western Union.
#2285 [13:39] <gamakichi> oO
#2286 [13:41] <gamakichi> well see you all maybe later some time ya never know and thanks :)
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#2290 [13:45] <Abuk007> hey guys
#2291 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2292 [13:45] <Abuk007> i need help with my server :F
#2293 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Could you clarify?
#2294 [13:46] <Abuk007> ports are forwarded, everything is cool
#2295 [13:46] <Abuk007> server runs
#2296 [13:46] <Abuk007> i can connect on localhost, but not externally
#2297 [13:46] <Abuk007> i mean , server logs connection, i can see a players skin in game
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#2299 [13:46] <Abuk007> and after 10-20 sec player gets DC
#2300 [13:46] <Abuk007> he is stuck at logging in screen
#2301 [13:47] <Abuk007> i get genericreason or endofstream info on console
#2302 [13:47] <Abuk007> any idea?
#2303 [13:47] <Abuk007> windows 7 64x
#2304 [13:48] <Abuk007> googled alot, no solution found
#2305 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Not quite sure exactly what the problem is.
#2306 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> You can connect via localhost, others can connect externally?
#2307 [13:49] <Abuk007> others cant
#2308 [13:50] <Abuk007> no one can, and server logs them as connected
#2309 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> How are you seeing their skins in game?
#2310 [13:50] <Abuk007> y
#2311 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Okay, they're not getting in at all then
#2312 [13:50] <Abuk007> yup
#2313 [13:50] <Abuk007> stuck at logging in, while server sees them as logged
#2314 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Firewall/security software?
#2315 [13:50] <Abuk007> ports forwarded, tried turning off my only firewall (kaspersky)
#2316 [13:50] <Abuk007> nothing
#2317 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Type and brand of NIC?
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#2319 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Also, windows firewall?
#2320 [13:52] <mbentley> well you said they can connect but are disconnected after 20-30 seconds, right?
#2321 [13:52] <mbentley> err 10-20
#2322 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> No, they're stuck at the logging in screen, I think he said
#2323 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> It'll time out with a disconnected message.
#2324 [13:54] <Abuk007> atheros
#2325 [13:54] <Abuk007> AR8121/8113/8114
#2326 [13:54] <Abuk007> NIC:
#2327 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> That would be the problem then
#2328 [13:54] <Abuk007> ??
#2329 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Or one cause.
#2330 [13:55] <Abuk007> 00-22-15-7A-36-D5
#2331 [13:55] <mbentley> people have reported connectivity issues with atheros cards
#2332 [13:57] <Abuk007> its my stock one
#2333 [13:57] <Abuk007> on my asus motherboard
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#2336 [13:59] <odielag> yay, I found my way to minecraft help!
#2337 [13:59] <Abuk007> hi
#2338 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> yay
#2339 [13:59] <odielag> : )
#2340 [14:00] <Abuk007> feel like damned
#2341 [14:00] <Abuk007> :}
#2342 [14:00] <odielag> i'm running a Virtual Private Server, I just got it a few days ago, and am hosting minecraft... it crashed 3 times today, none yesterday
#2343 [14:00] <nipper> Odd how much ram does the server have?
#2344 [14:01] <odielag> 4gb
#2345 [14:01] <odielag> I set 2048mb for minecraft
#2346 [14:01] <odielag> and it's using centos, which takes 300-400mb
#2347 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> odielag: any logs?
#2348 [14:01] <odielag> yes
#2349 [14:01] <odielag> I don't know a place to paste it... but the first line goes...
#2350 [14:01] <odielag> 2011-01-10 09:22:53 [SEVERE] Unexpected exception
#2351 [14:01] <odielag> java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: -1
#2352 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> odielag: is it the minecraft server that's crashing, ro the VPS itself? Any mods?
#2353 [14:01] <odielag> hey0 mod, and some plugins
#2354 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> odielag: try sans mods
#2355 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> it could well be the mods that are breaking the server.
#2356 [14:03] <odielag> shux, I was just getting it to my liking too, I have these plugins: LWC, Guilds, CuboidPlugin, WorldGuard, PromotePlugin
#2357 [14:03] <odielag> likeing * :)
#2358 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> If the server stops crashing without the mods, you could ask for assistance with that in an appropriate venue.
#2359 [14:03] <odielag> oh, ok. makes sense
#2360 [14:04] * DopeGhoti likes isolating variables :)
#2360 [14:04] <odielag> does anyone get a clue as to what went wrong by those two lines I pasted?
#2361 [14:05] <odielag> or does someone know a good place I could paste the logged crash info? I'm new at hosting and getting help
#2362 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> odielag: well, it looks like something was trying to set or refer to an array outside of its specified limits
#2363 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> pastebin.com is a go-to place for such things.
#2364 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> also, since you're on Linux, look into installing the pastebinit package, to which you can pipe output and get a handy URL (:
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#2371 [14:23] <genshou> =_=
#2372 [14:23] <genshou> Note to self: Do heavy drinking on the night OF your birthday, not the night before
#2373 [14:23] <genshou> :P
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#2376 [14:26] <genshou> Also, ugh I wish I were moving about two thousand more miles than I am (2000+5=just far enough away from my mother)
#2377 [14:29] <genshou> I was up till 6am dealing with a friend's abusive boyfriend issue (I had to drive to the police station so he'd stop tailing me and wouldn't know what shelter I took her to)
#2378 [14:30] <genshou> So my mother starts texting and calling me at 8am bitching about how I was supposed to help with some stuff around the house this afternoon and I'm not there yet =_=
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#2380 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> "Happy birthday, now do your chores!"?
#2381 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> more importantly, is your friend okay?
#2382 [14:42] <genshou> No idea. I'll call her today
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#2384 [14:42] <Ha_Chop> Hello
#2385 [14:42] <Ha_Chop> I need admins
#2386 [14:42] <genshou> So I'm sure you're wondering what the hell this story has to do with Minecraft.
#2387 [14:42] <mbentley> admins of?
#2388 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> Ha_Chop: ?
#2389 [14:42] <Ha_Chop> Minecraft i need to change nick
#2390 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Can't
#2391 [14:42] <mbentley> nobody in here can do that...
#2392 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Not possible
#2393 [14:43] <Ha_Chop> My user name is Xpresas ut in game nick xpresas
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#2395 [14:43] <genshou> It's kind of a roundabout way of saying it, but the only point I'm trying to make here is that REAL LIFE IS NOT AS FUN AS MINECRAFT (with the exception of creepers. Get off my lawn, you damn creepers!)
#2396 [14:43] <Ha_Chop> But someone can changeit?
#2397 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> Ha_Chop: "There's a 15 Euro fee for changing your nick. Also, the old nick will still work."
#2398 [14:43] <genshou> Lol.
#2399 [14:43] <genshou> i c wat u did thar
#2400 [14:43] <Ha_Chop> Nope in my country 15eruo is to much.
#2401 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> Ha_Chop: wait, you're upset because the 'x' is an 'X'?
#2402 [14:44] <Ha_Chop> Where i need to write for nick changing in game
#2403 [14:44] <Ha_Chop> See one server
#2404 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> genshou: sounds very :(. I hope things work out all right.
#2405 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Ha_Chop - Can't do it
#2406 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> Ha_Chop: there is currently no mechanism for changing account names.
#2407 [14:44] <Ha_Chop> But someone
#2408 [14:44] <Ha_Chop> really can do
#2409 [14:44] <Ha_Chop> maybye wirte e-mail?
#2410 [14:44] <Ha_Chop> to minecraft ?;D
#2411 [14:45] <mbentley> that is about all you can do and you will probably get a 'sorry, can't' response from what i can tell from a quick google search
#2412 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Again, currently, not possible
#2413 [14:45] <genshou> I'm sure they have the capability, but they get a LOT of emails about issues with payment and/or game not working
#2414 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> They don't
#2415 [14:45] <Ha_Chop> cose in one server i have town very very bigtowm and on server i registered as Xpresas...
#2416 [14:45] <Ha_Chop> FUUUUUCK!! ;D
#2417 [14:46] <Ha_Chop> maybie later on normal game not beta, be that option ?
#2418 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2419 [14:46] <genshou> "registered" on a server? :v
#2420 [14:46] <Ha_Chop> yes.
#2421 [14:46] <Solvius> two servers with different names, thats not minecraft issue
#2422 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> Ha_Chop: if your issue is with a specific server's whitelist, contact the server's administrators; that has _nothng_ to do with minecraft itself.
#2423 [14:46] <genshou> ^
#2424 [14:46] <Ha_Chop> So that admin can change my white list name?
#2425 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2426 [14:47] <Ha_Chop> and all my items not disipear?
#2427 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> that depends on the server's admins and what mods they're using, which we can't speak to.
#2428 [14:47] <Ha_Chop> Hmm
#2429 [14:47] <Ha_Chop> Oke thanks anyway
#2430 [14:47] <Ha_Chop> good luck
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#2432 [14:47] <Solvius> try to change the name on the server that has the wrong name
#2433 [14:48] <genshou> DopeGhoti, I'm sure things will work out. But you know how some girls are about getting into abusive relationships over and over (or going back to people they shouldn't)
#2434 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> Sadly, I do, which is why I remain hopeful.
#2435 [14:49] <genshou> bah... if I wanted drama I'd play on a Minecraft RP server ;D
#2436 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2437 [14:49] <genshou> (or any RP server, but this channels not about other games ;v )
#2438 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> (belated aside: this is the second time today that I've ended up in an impromptu German conversation. Glad those four years of study are coming in handy! (: )
#2439 [14:50] <Solvius> Take a beer, sit down think it all over, and take another beer
#2440 [14:50] <genshou> Heh, I'm already hung over and dealing with my mother
#2441 [14:50] <genshou> Beer can wait till tonight
#2442 [14:50] <Solvius> grin, good luck
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#2446 [15:02] <mbentley> ooh cake has been added
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#2450 [15:07] <mbentley> can't wait to eat some cake
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#2452 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> and now our paper and books will all be totally sweet! :)
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#2454 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> Greetings and welcome! I'm not even going to try to pronounce your name, wqqt, but I will offer the assistance of #minecrafthelp. What can we do for you?
#2455 [15:14] <wqqt> Hello, nothing today, I was just checking to make sure I can connect to this channel via pidgin chat. Thanks!
#2456 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> wqqt: it seems you can :)
#2457 [15:15] <wqqt> yep, enjoy the day! thanks!
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#2459 [15:15] <genshou> Wait, what's this about paper and books?
#2460 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> genshou: Bamboo is being retconned into sugar cane for to make cakes with.
#2461 [15:16] <genshou> D:
#2462 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> therefore, paper will be sweet. Therefore books shall also be totally sweet.
#2463 [15:16] <genshou> Sugar canes don't make books
#2464 [15:16] <genshou> Also, sugar makes me sick :v
#2465 [15:17] <genshou> Well, at least he finally added cakes :c
#2466 [15:18] * mbentley starts eating paper
#2466 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> "starts"?
#2467 [15:18] <mbentley> i have come out of the paper eating closet
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#2469 [15:19] <mbentley> i can now eat paper in public without being ridiculed!
#2470 [15:19] <genshou> D:
#2471 [15:20] <MertenNor> is it possible to have a guest book on my server ? :p
#2472 [15:20] <mbentley> use signs?
#2473 [15:20] * mbentley thinks of mid 90's websites
#2473 [15:20] <mbentley> SIGN MY GUESTBOOK!
#2474 [15:20] <genshou> xD
#2475 [15:21] <Mjiig> now it's more GET YOUR IP LOGGED AND YOUR COMPUTER LOADED WITH SPYWARE
#2476 [15:21] <genshou> guestbooks were still a big deal for a few years after the 90's too
#2477 [15:21] <mbentley> enlarge your epeen! click here!
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#2479 [15:37] <Bryan_> Hey all, I got my server up and running with ease. Just curious about the funky collision detection. I searched all over and I couldn't find any topics about it. Maybe you guys know. Basically, say there is a zombie behind a cobblestone wall. He can hit you through the wall, even if you're stepped back a little from it. Happens with all enemies actually
#2480 [15:38] <Kealper> yeah, they have a bit of a range, and that range can count through other blocks :/
#2481 [15:38] <Bryan_> hmm =( it's not like this on singleplayer however...
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#2483 [15:39] <Kealper> multiplayer is not the most bugfree of things right now lol
#2484 [15:39] <AG> Apparently a pre-paid visa card isn't working to buy Minecraft
#2485 [15:39] <Kealper> AG: no, most don't allow international payments
#2486 [15:39] <AG> Well dammit
#2487 [15:40] <AG> Is it possible to do a trade?
#2488 [15:40] <AG> I give the wait...
#2489 [15:40] <AG> Not sure if anyone would want the card info in exchange for a gifted game
#2490 [15:40] <AG> After all, it would only be useful for online purchases
#2491 [15:40] <AG> If I just gave the card info...
#2492 [15:40] <Kealper> have you tried linking it with paypal? sometimes that works
#2493 [15:40] <AG> Funny thing about that, I have money on Paypal, but it's not verified
#2494 [15:41] <AG> I don't exactly have a credit card
#2495 [15:41] <AG> Nor is it linked to a bank account
#2496 [15:41] <AG> So in other words, I"m kinda screwed
#2497 [15:42] <Kealper> :/
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#2499 [15:42] <Bryan_> Kealper, I appreciate the help =)
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#2501 [15:49] <genshou> So you know how sometimes when you get a two-CD set of some music or other, instead of a proper jewel case you get this annoying chunk of painted cardboard?
#2502 [15:50] <genshou> I caught my mother shoving one into a CD holder trying to get it to fit =_=
#2503 [15:50] <mbentley> what are these 'cds' you speak of?
#2504 [15:50] <genshou> So much for that artwork
#2505 [15:51] <genshou> mbentley, they're for physical backup of music ;)
#2506 [15:51] * genshou has a big shelf full of them
#2506 [15:52] <genshou> Bryan_, you think that's bad? Try standing six squares up, three squares west, and two squares south of a creeper :(
#2507 [15:52] <genshou> So much for that mountain, is all I can say.
#2508 [15:52] <Bryan_> lmao
#2509 [15:54] <Bryan_> that needs to be fixed =P the only logical reason i could think of is that the server doesnt use a map positioning system as accurate as singleplayer for the sake of saving bandwidth. anybody dablle with a 3rd party server?
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#2512 [15:55] <kendle> !ip
#2513 [15:55] <Bryan_> *sorry, limechat crashed. didnt get anything u guys might have said
#2514 [15:55] <genshou> I don't think there are any custom servers that fix the collision detection issues and enemy range
#2515 [15:56] <genshou> I just stay indoors behind a cactus wall in the night, and build mob grinders until I have a bow & arrows
#2516 [15:56] <genshou> (or use a diamond sword to 1-shot things)
#2517 [15:57] <genshou> I actually play a lot of single player because my internet isn't very good :I
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#2521 [16:02] <EpicLPer> hay
#2522 [16:02] <EpicLPer> anyone here can help me?
#2523 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2524 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Nobody's here
#2525 [16:03] <EpicLPer> lol...
#2526 [16:03] <EpicLPer> facepalm .-.
#2527 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> What's up?
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#2529 [16:04] <EpicLPer> notch wrote in his new blog post something about a buggy, new version of minecraft, where can i get it?
#2530 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> ?
#2531 [16:05] <EpicLPer> or Minecraft, if you want to, you will be able to play the latest unstable nightly build. If you choose to, it will be installed parallel to the normal game, and it will be VERY buggy. But you’ll also get access to the absolutely latest version of the game, way before we do any releases.
#2532 [16:05] <EpicLPer> *For (at the beginning)
#2533 [16:06] <Mjiig> yay i finally have a diamond pic *happy*
#2534 [16:06] <genshou> Mjiig, hopefully it lasts till you get moar diamond ;v
#2535 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea
#2536 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> That's news to me
#2537 [16:07] <genshou> EpicLPer, why would you want that D;
#2538 [16:07] <EpicLPer> i will try it ^^
#2539 [16:07] <EpicLPer> and btw: http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2687176736/information-dump-incoming
#2540 [16:08] <Mjiig> i believe
#2541 [16:08] <Mjiig> that he is planning to implement that whole thing soon
#2542 [16:08] <Mjiig> but has not done so yet
#2543 [16:08] <EpicLPer> hm...
#2544 [16:08] <Mjiig> he mentioned it in a previous blog post as well
#2545 [16:08] <EpicLPer> jap, because of that im wondering...
#2546 [16:08] <Mjiig> it will need something of an overhaul of the launcher program
#2547 [16:09] <Mjiig> which is quite a lot of work for something that won't directly effect the game
#2548 [16:09] <EpicLPer> hm...
#2549 [16:09] <EpicLPer> lol, notch made the game, but dont really know completely how to programm one?
#2550 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> uh oh
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#2553 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> I think the bots are back
#2554 [16:10] <EpicLPer> sry, my english is bad xD
#2555 [16:10] <Mjiig> GreyVulpine: what makes you think that
#2556 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> #minecraft
#2557 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> people getting CTCP flooded out
#2558 [16:10] <Mjiig> ah okay
#2559 [16:11] <Mjiig> thought you meant in this channel
#2560 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> That's just it, they hit #minecraft yesterday
#2561 [16:11] <EpicLPer> rofl, minecraft.net/game.jsp is off O.O
#2562 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> was locked down
#2563 [16:11] <bildramer> inb4 attacks
#2564 [16:11] <EpicLPer> i think he update it now
#2565 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> went to other minecraft channels
#2566 [16:11] <bildramer> why not set +R already
#2567 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> We sorta live on the edge bildramer
#2568 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> (and people don't register usually when coming here for help)
#2569 [16:13] <aetherian> is +R where you need to have a registered nick in order to talk?
#2570 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> To join
#2571 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> +M is the one to talk
#2572 [16:13] <aetherian> hmm
#2573 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> (registered)
#2574 [16:14] <aetherian> well, thank goodness I registered before.
#2575 [16:16] <aetherian> what happened to robots being good things like waiters?
#2576 [16:16] <aetherian> or like that one from forbidden planet.
#2577 [16:17] <Mjiig> aetherian: haven't you ever read a dystopian novel?
#2578 [16:18] <Kealper> the robot is only as good as it's creator...if the creator is evil, the robot will be, as well >.>
#2579 [16:19] <aetherian> mjiig: I've read a couple, but mainly starring people not robots.
#2580 [16:19] <aetherian> brave new world... now that was a good book.
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#2582 [16:20] <testnick> test
#2583 [16:20] <aetherian> what's up with changing modes so much?
#2584 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#2585 [16:20] <aetherian> aahhhh
#2586 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> Setting +R makes nonregistered unable to talk
#2587 [16:20] <aetherian> ...like I... oh whatever.
#2588 [16:21] <aetherian> make it +R, and add to the topic for people to register.
#2589 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> The topic is sorta... bloated right now
#2590 [16:21] <aetherian> then take stuff off
#2591 [16:21] <aetherian> you don't need the welcome bit.
#2592 [16:21] <aetherian> that's kind of a given (and never read)
#2593 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Welcome bit?
#2594 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Please read the following first: http://bit.ly/mc_faq || The Official MineCraft help channel! For all your questions about the core-game made by Notch! || Channel Rules: http://mchelp.darksigns.net/rules.html || Bug Tracker: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#2595 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> There's no welcome bit there
#2596 [16:22] <Kealper> seems pretty to-the-point to me
#2597 [16:22] <Mjiig> i think he's referring to the bit from The official through to Notch
#2598 [16:22] <aetherian> || The Official MineCraft help channel! For all your questions about the core-game made by Notch! |
#2599 [16:22] <aetherian> that part
#2600 [16:22] <Mjiig> but i agree that it's not much of welcome
#2601 [16:23] <aetherian> well, that's a matter of opinion,
#2602 [16:24] <aetherian> there're other ways to trim it down too, like "please read" instead of "please read the following bit first"
#2603 [16:24] <aetherian> at the beginning.
#2604 [16:24] <aetherian> besides, what percentage of people do you think actually read that?
#2605 [16:25] <Mjiig> 0, but since there's not much point considering the people who don't even read the topic...
#2606 [16:25] <aetherian> mjiig: if it's in the topic then we can point to the topic.
#2607 [16:26] <Mjiig> i supose
#2608 [16:27] <aetherian> I'm just doing my bit to advocate enforcement of +R
#2609 [16:28] <aetherian> :)
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#2611 [16:29] <aetherian> steve, watch out for those tsunamis.
#2612 [16:29] <TrueWolves> Watch out for botnets
#2613 [16:30] <aetherian> so dangerous...
#2614 [16:30] * aetherian now has that song song stuck in his head
#2614 [16:30] <aetherian> =\
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#2617 [16:36] <poldie> hi
#2618 [16:36] <poldie> maybe somebody can help me. my minecraft freezed and crashed out of nowhere and now everytime i start the game it will crash again ... some ideas to fix that ?
#2619 [16:36] <aetherian> running mods?
#2620 [16:36] <poldie> yes, the minimap mod
#2621 [16:36] <aetherian> has minecraft ran smoothly for extended periods of time before?
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#2623 [16:37] <poldie> yes
#2624 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Does it provide you with any crash logs?
#2625 [16:37] <aetherian> have you changed anything in .minecraft since then?
#2626 [16:37] <sevenseeker> Does anyone know if there is a bug with Redstone dust disappearing? I've been testing out circuits with it and I notice now and then I have 1 less...
#2627 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> sevenseeker - Can't say I have...
#2628 [16:37] <aetherian> did you not pick it up?
#2629 [16:38] <Diablothein> Yo
#2630 [16:38] <sevenseeker> It looked like I picked it up/.
#2631 [16:38] <poldie> yes @ grey and no @aetherian
#2632 [16:38] <aetherian> pastebin them
#2633 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> poldie - pastebin?
#2634 [16:38] <sevenseeker> I'm in an empty room, should be pretty obvious if I didnt.
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#2636 [16:38] <poldie> -pastbin ?
#2637 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> www.pastebin.com
#2638 [16:38] * genshou hides from the monsterthing
#2638 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Place for you to copy large amounts of text
#2639 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> give the URL to other people
#2640 [16:39] <poldie> ah k mom
#2641 [16:39] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2641 [16:39] * monsterthing says roar.
#2641 [16:39] <genshou> Well anyway, peace out for now Minecrafters ^_^ I'm gonna go move some of my stuff into the new place and drop my friend off at work
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#2643 [16:39] * Miclee slaps monsterthing.
#2643 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Laters genshou
#2644 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> happy b-day and all that
#2645 [16:39] <genshou> ^_^
#2646 [16:39] <genshou> thanks
#2647 [16:40] <poldie> http://pastebin.com/k6Rq3X8j
#2648 [16:41] <aetherian> it's gen's bday?
#2649 [16:41] <aetherian> it's gen's bday?
#2650 [16:41] <aetherian> ack
#2651 [16:41] <aetherian> upenter=fail
#2652 [16:41] <aetherian> on this client
#2653 [16:42] <poldie> k and how can i fix that ?
#2654 [16:43] <Kealper> muting the channel stops ctcp stuff, right?
#2655 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Try removing the mods you have
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#2657 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> No Kealper
#2658 [16:43] <Kealper> really? hmm...
#2659 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Gah, there's no way of stopping the bots, without making non-regged people unable to talk as well
#2660 [16:44] <Kealper> well..i was thinking i could make aubot mute the channel as soon as it got a ctcp request...
#2661 [16:44] <Kealper> although i could have it kick if it gets one
#2662 [16:44] <Kealper> so all the bots that spam would be instantly kicked as soon as they got one ctcp out
#2663 [16:45] <TrueWolves> ooh
#2664 [16:45] <TrueWolves> not one, more like 2 in a row
#2665 [16:45] <TrueWolves> but make it bankick
#2666 [16:46] <Kealper> i could put aubot in #minecraft for the time being if this works, if you guys wanted, too
#2667 [16:46] <Kealper> because it's better than letting the bots send off enough to start making people flood out
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#2669 [16:47] <TrueWolves> I'm in support of that
#2670 [16:47] <poldie> mhm is there a way to export the saves ?
#2671 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes poldie
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#2673 [16:48] <poldie> k and how ?
#2674 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> You're on windows, so go to %appdata% via the run command
#2675 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> it's in .minecraft/saves
#2676 [16:49] <poldie> thx
#2677 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Huh, wierd, greybot didn't get any CTCPs..
#2678 [16:52] <Kealper> ok...i think i made that module right...
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#2680 [16:53] <Kealper> !load mod_console
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#2684 [16:55] <curmet> any one help me with installing minecraft one ubuntu?
#2685 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> !server
#2686 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> minecraft, the client, or server?
#2687 [16:55] <curmet> client
#2688 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> ah, in that case
#2689 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> !client
#2690 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> What problem do you have?
#2691 [16:56] <curmet> when i open it up and sign it any button on the main menu coses minecraft
#2692 [16:56] <curmet> in*
#2693 [16:56] <curmet> sorry for the spelling
#2694 [16:57] <curmet> it couses it to close *
#2695 [16:57] <poldie> .... mod removed and at game start low frames -> freeze -> crash :(
#2696 [16:57] <Kealper> the module works
#2697 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> curmet: what version of Java are you running? Are you getting any error messages?
#2698 [16:59] <curmet> im running java 6 from the software finder thing
#2699 [16:59] <curmet> um i get error txt files it seems from minecraft
#2700 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> could you pastebin those errors? that may shed light on the problem.
#2701 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> poldie - How'd you remove the mod?
#2702 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Did you delete your /.minecraft/bin folder?
#2703 [17:00] <curmet> yes i can but its very long
#2704 [17:00] <poldie> yes, so i deleted it
#2705 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> curmet - please copy and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#2706 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL
#2707 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> poldie - Does it give the same error when it crashes this time?
#2708 [17:01] <poldie> mom
#2709 [17:02] <curmet> http://pastebin.com/4ZP2zVjL
#2710 [17:02] <poldie> jo same errorlog
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#2712 [17:03] <a10> anybody here from ubuntu forums?
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#2715 [17:03] <curmet> i am
#2716 [17:03] <a10> are you milkbone
#2717 [17:04] <curmet> yes
#2718 [17:04] <a10> cool
#2719 [17:04] <a10> explain your prob
#2720 [17:04] <curmet> when i open minecraft and sign in and go to the main menu
#2721 [17:04] <curmet> any button i hit closes minecraft
#2722 [17:04] <a10> het grey its about linux
#2723 [17:05] <DopeGhoti> curmet: have you tried installing Oracle Java rather than running via OpenJDK?
#2724 [17:05] <a10> jump in
#2725 [17:05] <mbentley> yay linux
#2726 [17:05] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: oracle ;_;
#2727 [17:05] <curmet> no i havent
#2728 [17:05] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: what? It's their product now.
#2729 [17:05] <DopeGhoti> curmet: perhaps you should.
#2730 [17:05] <curmet> ok
#2731 [17:06] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: I'm disliking oracle, not disliking that you said their real name
#2732 [17:06] <a10> would oracle make minecraft less laggy
#2733 [17:06] <a10> or would that be in nvidias feild
#2734 [17:06] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: the fun thing is OpenJDK is supposed to be binary compatible, with only a few binary plugs provided by Oracle to fill in the gaps
#2735 [17:06] <DopeGhoti> a10: define 'laggy'- if it's a network problem, then no.
#2736 [17:06] <curmet> what download on orical
#2737 [17:06] <curmet> the java for devilpoers
#2738 [17:06] <a10> well i am ferdinand
#2739 [17:06] <curmet> or w/e
#2740 [17:06] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: On my system, both Oracle Java and OpenJDK work perfectly
#2741 [17:06] <a10> remmember the kid with the nvidia prob
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#2743 [17:07] <DopeGhoti> curmet: it's a package in the Ubuntu Multiverse repo- sun-java6-jre
#2744 [17:07] <a10> kealper should remmember me
#2745 [17:07] <curmet> im new to ubuntu what is the multiverse
#2746 [17:07] <Kealper> vaguely, don't remember any issue you may have had though
#2747 [17:08] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: I thought it was in the partners repo...
#2748 [17:08] <mbentley> lukegb: it is
#2749 [17:08] <a10> nvidia kept putting me into tty and no desktop
#2750 [17:08] <Kealper> AH
#2751 [17:08] <Kealper> yes, i remember you
#2752 [17:08] <a10> i just quit it
#2753 [17:08] <lukegb> mbentley: different ubuntu versions?
#2754 [17:08] <a10> i even blacklisted it
#2755 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> mm, my server's still running 9.10, heh
#2756 [17:09] <mbentley> this was in 10.10 i believe
#2757 [17:09] <lukegb> mbentley: mmm
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#2759 [17:10] <curmet> is the orical thing sun-java6-jre in the ubuntu sofftware manager
#2760 [17:10] <mbentley> curmet: yes
#2761 [17:10] <curmet> ok
#2762 [17:10] <curmet> well i got those
#2763 [17:10] <mbentley> i just did an install of 10.04 server and it was a default repo
#2764 [17:10] <curmet> and its still not wrking
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#2766 [17:11] <mbentley> curmet: you have to set it to the default...
#2767 [17:11] <mbentley> do a 'sudo update-alternatives --config java'
#2768 [17:11] <curmet> in terminal correct
#2769 [17:11] <mbentley> yes
#2770 [17:12] <curmet> There are 2 choices for the alternative java (providing /usr/bin/java). Selection Path Priority Status ------------------------------------------------------------ * 0 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java 1061 auto mode 1 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java 1061 manual
#2771 [17:12] <curmet> thats what i et
#2772 [17:12] <mbentley> you didn't install it then
#2773 [17:12] <curmet> thats what i get
#2774 [17:12] <curmet> really?
#2775 [17:12] <mbentley> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
#2776 [17:13] <curmet> ok i did that
#2777 [17:13] <mbentley> what did it output when you tried?
#2778 [17:13] <mbentley> because that seemed awfully fast...
#2779 [17:13] <a10> jurrasic park rules!
#2780 [17:14] <curmet> um hold on i will copy it over
#2781 [17:14] <mbentley> ok. if it is long, please put it into pastebin.com and put in a link here...
#2782 [17:14] <curmet> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done sun-java6-jre is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
#2783 [17:15] <a10> then its already installes
#2784 [17:15] <a10> d*
#2785 [17:15] <mbentley> hmm... what does 'java --version' say?
#2786 [17:15] <mbentley> err -version
#2787 [17:16] <curmet> nothing
#2788 [17:16] <curmet> 0.0
#2789 [17:16] <mbentley> java -version ?
#2790 [17:17] <a10> what?
#2791 [17:17] <curmet> java version "1.6.0_22" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode, sharing)
#2792 [17:17] <curmet> sorry i typoed
#2793 [17:17] <mbentley> ok, you have the actual jre installed so you are good there...
#2794 [17:18] <curmet> yea
#2795 [17:19] <curmet> what should i do now?
#2796 [17:20] <mbentley> well you were having problems running minecraft... so try to run it
#2797 [17:20] <curmet> ok
#2798 [17:21] <curmet> um it crashed
#2799 [17:21] <mbentley> how are you starting it?
#2800 [17:21] <a10> any error reports?
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#2802 [17:21] <curmet> right click then seltecting run open jdk 6
#2803 [17:21] <mbentley> don't use openjdk...
#2804 [17:21] <curmet> use sun java 6
#2805 [17:21] <mbentley> yeah
#2806 [17:22] <curmet> yea it just closed agian with out me doing anything
#2807 [17:22] <mbentley> ok, open a command prompt...
#2808 [17:22] <curmet> ok
#2809 [17:22] <mbentley> cd to the location where you have 'Minecraft.jar' saved (i am guessing your Desktop)
#2810 [17:22] <curmet> how do i cd to it?
#2811 [17:22] <curmet> im very new to ubuntu
#2812 [17:23] <a10> cd Desktop
#2813 [17:23] <curmet> ok i did that
#2814 [17:23] <a10> might need sudo
#2815 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> to cd? nah
#2816 [17:23] <curmet> ok after i cd there what you want me to do nextr
#2817 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Can you "ls" ?
#2818 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Make sure minecraft.jar is there?
#2819 [17:25] <curmet> yes it is
#2820 [17:25] <a10> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFramewould that work for him?
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#2822 [17:25] <mbentley> should
#2823 [17:25] <a10> try that command
#2824 [17:26] <curmet> said could not find the main class
#2825 [17:26] <a10> it should be java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2826 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Then minecraft.jar isn't htere
#2827 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> there*
#2828 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Where did you put minecraft.jar?
#2829 [17:26] <curmet> ????? but i see in i terminal and on my desktop
#2830 [17:26] <curmet> and it was origanly in my download folder
#2831 [17:27] <a10> wait
#2832 [17:27] <xales> Grey
#2833 [17:27] <xales> case sensitive
#2834 [17:27] <xales> ;)
#2835 [17:27] <a10> unmark minecraft as executable
#2836 [17:27] <a10> then try the command
#2837 [17:27] <curmet> ok i uncheked it
#2838 [17:27] <curmet> same thing
#2839 [17:28] <a10> hmmmm
#2840 [17:28] <a10> check your downlload folder for minecraft
#2841 [17:28] <curmet> ok
#2842 [17:28] <xales> umm no
#2843 [17:28] <xales> run the command
#2844 [17:28] <xales> "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar Minecraft.jar"
#2845 [17:28] <mbentley> if you are in ~/Desktop, you can do a simple 'ls' command to make sure it is still there...
#2846 [17:29] <curmet> i did the 'is' and it said minecraft.jar
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#2849 [17:29] <mbentley> guess you might have renamed it... normally it is Minecraft.jar
#2850 [17:30] <curmet> it is on my desktop
#2851 [17:30] <Fausterion> question about server properties file
#2852 [17:30] <curmet> should i redownload it
#2853 [17:30] <Fausterion> anyone know what hte admin slot command is for?
#2854 [17:30] <mbentley> might be a good idea
#2855 [17:30] <mbentley> !client
#2856 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Fausterion - For a hey0 modded server?
#2857 [17:31] <Fausterion> really?
#2858 [17:31] <Fausterion> hmm
#2859 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com the server.properties?
#2860 [17:32] <curmet> ok so i redownloaded it and it did the same thing
#2861 [17:32] <a10> even with the command?
#2862 [17:33] <mbentley> are you sure it downloaded to the Desktop?
#2863 [17:33] <curmet> no it downloaded to the downloads folder
#2864 [17:33] <a10> did you extrat it to the desktop?
#2865 [17:33] <a10> extract*
#2866 [17:33] <curmet> no
#2867 [17:33] <mbentley> extract?
#2868 [17:33] <a10> had to with mine
#2869 [17:33] <mbentley> why?
#2870 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> No, don't do that
#2871 [17:34] <Fausterion> admin-slot=False
#2872 [17:34] <Fausterion> that's the only command I was curious about
#2873 [17:34] <Fausterion> I'm fine with the rest
#2874 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> That's not a normal command
#2875 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> or property
#2876 [17:34] <Fausterion> hmm
#2877 [17:35] <Fausterion> actually
#2878 [17:35] <Fausterion> it is
#2879 [17:35] <Fausterion> http://notch.tumblr.com/post/278835017/new-minecraft-server-zip-version-1-10
#2880 [17:35] <Fausterion> now we all know
#2881 [17:35] <Fausterion> lol
#2882 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Oh, classic
#2883 [17:35] <Fausterion> google ftw
#2884 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> That's why I didn't recognize it
#2885 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
#2886 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> "Allow op's to join even if the server is full. "
#2887 [17:35] <Fausterion> awesome
#2888 [17:36] <curmet> ok so i tryed to luanch it agian and i got a crash report
#2889 [17:36] <a10> which one
#2890 [17:36] <Fausterion> so I noticed the hellworld command
#2891 [17:36] <curmet> http://pastebin.com/R8xHRmNc
#2892 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Only works for beta, not classic
#2893 [17:36] <Fausterion> if I set it to true does that make the portals work? or does that just force the world into hellworld mode?
#2894 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> the latter
#2895 [17:36] <curmet> thats the crash report i got
#2896 [17:36] <Fausterion> ahh ok
#2897 [17:37] <mbentley> ati...
#2898 [17:37] <curmet> ha ha ha
#2899 [17:37] <curmet> yea
#2900 [17:37] <a10> nvidia doesnt work with it?
#2901 [17:38] <curmet> not with ati hardware
#2902 [17:38] <mbentley> lol
#2903 [17:38] <a10> thta sucks
#2904 [17:38] <mbentley> two different companies...
#2905 [17:38] <a10> do you have another computer?
#2906 [17:38] <curmet> yea but this is my main computer and the only one i want to use
#2907 [17:39] <mbentley> curmet: how did you install the ati drivers?
#2908 [17:39] <curmet> thro the ati website
#2909 [17:39] <mbentley> hmm
#2910 [17:39] <curmet> i got the drivers from there
#2911 [17:39] <mbentley> curmet: do this
#2912 [17:39] <curmet> ok
#2913 [17:39] <mbentley> cd ~/.minecraft
#2914 [17:39] <curmet> ok i did
#2915 [17:39] <mbentley> rm -rf bin
#2916 [17:40] <curmet> ok
#2917 [17:40] <mbentley> relaunch minecraft
#2918 [17:40] <curmet> kk'
#2919 [17:41] <curmet> same thing it just closes
#2920 [17:43] <mbentley> hmm
#2921 [17:43] <mbentley> when does it crash?
#2922 [17:44] <mbentley> before you are able to login?
#2923 [17:44] <curmet> i log in to minecraft
#2924 [17:44] <curmet> and then it closes
#2925 [17:45] <mbentley> normally i would say update your video drivers but that is odd that it isn't working with the ones from amd's website
#2926 [17:45] <curmet> yea i did some command in terminal and it showed that my driver for that card are installed
#2927 [17:45] <curmet> i can open catlyist and every thing
#2928 [17:46] <fork> http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_loughner_mug_110110_mn.jpg
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#2930 [17:47] <mbentley> i'm sorta out of ideas at the moment
#2931 [17:47] <curmet> :(
#2932 [17:47] <mbentley> (besides running the amd drivers that would come with ubuntu in the restricted drivers manager
#2933 [17:48] <curmet> ???
#2934 [17:48] <curmet> how
#2935 [17:48] <space_munkey> currently, my account (on any computer) wont let me join a server but it will download updates when they are put out, and it has been like this for a while. what should i do?
#2936 [17:48] <mbentley> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
#2937 [17:49] <xales> what happens when you try to join a server
#2938 [17:49] <space_munkey> hold on
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#2940 [17:51] <space_munkey> failed to connect to server connection timed out: connect/this happens for any server
#2941 [17:51] <curmet> how do i Enable the "Source Code" repository from the Synaptic Package Manger.
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#2944 [17:52] <xales> space_munkey: that isn't a problem with your account
#2945 [17:52] <xales> that would be a problem with your internet connection
#2946 [17:52] <space_munkey> hmm ok
#2947 [17:52] <xales> try connecting to this server
#2948 [17:52] <xales> smp.shadow-craft.net
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#2950 [17:53] <Allan> Is there a mod like hmod?
#2951 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> bukkit's the new one, but currently in development
#2952 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> No releases yet
#2953 [17:53] <Allan> ah aright
#2954 [17:53] <curmet> any one know how to Enable the "Source Code" repository from the Synaptic Package Manger.
#2955 [17:53] <Allan> i was just wondering cause hmod doesnt support multithreading
#2956 [17:53] <mbentley> curmet: i believe they are enabled by default
#2957 [17:53] <space_munkey> that worked is it a local prob with the server then?
#2958 [17:54] <curmet> ok
#2959 [17:54] <xales> space_munkey: it means the server you tried to connect to is offline
#2960 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Allan - Minecraft isn't coded to use multithreading.
#2961 [17:54] <Allan> :O
#2962 [17:54] <space_munkey> hmm i feel dumb thanks
#2963 [17:55] <Stokkedarum> hello masters of server maintaning.. i have a problems. my server.exe, which before worked perfectly fine tells me that i have something else running on the port, then I checked my router, and it says nothing runs on that port. then i changed port, but it said the same.
#2964 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Checked your processes list?
#2965 [17:55] <Stokkedarum> yup
#2966 [17:55] <curmet> :( i have done all of this
#2967 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> java wasn't running at all?
#2968 [17:55] <xales> Stokkedarum: restart
#2969 [17:55] <Stokkedarum> k thx.
#2970 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#2971 [17:56] * GreyVulpine is so confused.
#2971 [17:57] <Allan> Grey, do you help develop minecraft?
#2972 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#2973 [17:57] <xales> He does, actually
#2974 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Lies.
#2975 [17:57] <xales> he keeps Mojang from having to answer questions
#2976 [17:58] <xales> so they can get work done
#2977 [17:58] <Allan> lol
#2978 [17:58] <Allan> Is minecraft going to support multithreading anytime soon?
#2979 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> We don't know Allan.
#2980 [17:58] <Allan> Alrighty
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#2982 [18:04] <curmet> hey mbentley
#2983 [18:04] <mbentley> yes?
#2984 [18:04] <curmet> nvm
#2985 [18:04] <mbentley> ok :)
#2986 [18:05] <curmet> i was going to see if u could do a remote desktop thing
#2987 [18:05] <curmet> so you can see wats going on
#2988 [18:07] <curmet> ?
#2989 [18:07] <curmet> do you want to
#2990 [18:09] <mbentley> did you try this >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installation of the fglrx Driver from the Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Repositories
#2991 [18:09] <curmet> yea twice
#2992 [18:10] <mbentley> and it sounds like you are running the catalyst drivers from amd.com...
#2993 [18:10] <curmet> yea
#2994 [18:11] <mbentley> i can't think of much else besides to post on the minecraftforum.net site and see if anyone else has had the same issue and was able to resolve it
#2995 [18:11] <Fausterion> question: tried to start up my server with a save file from another server
#2996 [18:11] <Fausterion> and I got a permission denied error from the session lock file
#2997 [18:11] <curmet> ok
#2998 [18:11] <Fausterion> how do I fix that?
#2999 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> Delete the .lock file.
#3000 [18:12] <Fausterion> that it?
#3001 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> yep :)
#3002 [18:12] <Fausterion> k
#3003 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> your server will drop its own .lock when it starts
#3004 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> but it needs to be able to write to or create the file first
#3005 [18:12] <curmet> :(
#3006 [18:12] <curmet> this sucks
#3007 [18:13] <mbentley> wish i could be more helpful curmet :(
#3008 [18:13] <mbentley> i haven't purchased an ati in a long time because of their linux 'support'
#3009 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> ^this.
#3010 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> shame, because I in all other ways adore AMD.
#3011 [18:14] <curmet> would it be easer to disable my ati graphics card and go back to my onboard
#3012 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> curmet: unless it's Nvidia, don't bother.
#3013 [18:14] <curmet> it's intel
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#3015 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> Run. Run far far away.
#3016 [18:14] <curmet> lol
#3017 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> preferably towards a Fry's Electronics, to get a new, Nvidia, video card.
#3018 [18:14] <curmet> :(
#3019 [18:15] <Fausterion> damn
#3020 [18:15] <Fausterion> server still won't start
#3021 [18:16] <Fausterion> same error... though session.lock got delted
#3022 [18:16] <Fausterion> deleted
#3023 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> Fausterion: what precise error?
#3024 [18:16] <Fausterion> http://pastebin.com/sMfpJ2FY
#3025 [18:17] <mbentley> check the folder permissions
#3026 [18:17] <mbentley> ls -l in the directory
#3027 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> okay, what is the username you're logged in as?
#3028 [18:17] <Fausterion> i set up a seperate account called minecraft
#3029 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> run this command: sudo chown -R <your_username> world
#3030 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> okay, in that case
#3031 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> run this command: sudo chown -R minecraft world
#3032 [18:18] <Fausterion> did that
#3033 [18:18] <Fausterion> seemed to work
#3034 [18:18] <Fausterion> but still the same server error
#3035 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> let's see the output of ls -ld world
#3036 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> should be just one line; dump it in here :)
#3037 [18:19] <Fausterion> drwxr-xr-x 56 root root 4096 Jan 11 06:17 world
#3038 [18:20] <mbentley> ...
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#3040 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> Fausterion: it's still owned by root, not minecraft
#3041 [18:20] <Fausterion> yeah
#3042 [18:20] <mbentley> need to run the chown command DopeGhoti put above...
#3043 [18:20] <Fausterion> guess I have to switch to root to use chown
#3044 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> sudo chown -R minecraft world
#3045 [18:20] <nipper> try deleting the lock file in the world dir. Just a guess.
#3046 [18:20] <mbentley> need sudo... make sure you read any errors it puts out
#3047 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> (your current user must have sudo rights)
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#3049 [18:21] <genshou> DEWD
#3050 [18:21] <genshou> I found my Pogs
#3051 [18:21] <genshou> :D
#3052 [18:21] <mbentley> don't even know how to respond to that
#3053 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> "Remember ALF? He's back-- in Pog form!"
#3054 [18:23] <Fausterion> ok working now
#3055 [18:23] <Fausterion> thanks for the help
#3056 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> Fausterion: cheers!
#3057 [18:24] <genshou> They got banned at my elementary school
#3058 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> genshou: most schools frown on semicontrolled gambling among their students.
#3059 [18:24] <genshou> we still smuggled 'em, of course :>
#3060 [18:24] <genshou> Lolyup
#3061 [18:25] <genshou> They frowned on a lot of things I did >.>
#3062 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> kids these days; getting off on smuggling overrated bottlecaps. In my day, kids smuggled explosives.
#3063 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> </oldman>
#3064 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#3065 [18:25] <genshou> First I was too bookish, staying inside during 2nd Grade recess to read David Eddings fantasy novels
#3066 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> explosives? Try chemicals from the AP chem lab
#3067 [18:26] <genshou> Then I was too rowdy, getting into group fights with my posse
#3068 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: it's not smuggling if you're not crossing borders
#3069 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> though there was an incident in my high school involving a pocketful of sodium, a water fountain, and a semicontrolled fire.
#3070 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Oh nice
#3071 [18:26] <genshou> xD
#3072 [18:26] <genshou> Then they thought my group was smoking because we were always out in the "Environmental Center" which was just a small hilled area with trees at the far back corner of the field.
#3073 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> I think the worse my senior class did, was knock out a teacher at the end of the year.
#3074 [18:27] <genshou> No, we just liked playing Jurassic Park (I was usually a velociraptor xD )
#3075 [18:27] <rjsamuel> lol im an idiot... whilst doing the research to post my question (citing forum posts i had looked at) i discovered what i was doing wrong the whole time.... YAY minecraft
#3076 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: one year at a high school I attended, the Senior Prank was to swap the signage on all the rest rooms.
#3077 [18:27] <genshou> Middle school and high school were so bland and boring by comparison... I just chatted my way through all six years :I
#3078 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Heh
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#3080 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> the faculty just shrugged and left 'em that way.
#3081 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> leading to questions in later years as to why there were urinals in womens' rooms.
#3082 [18:28] <genshou> rjsamuel, glad to hear you figured it out ;)
#3083 [18:28] <genshou> <.<
#3084 [18:28] <genshou> what is this I don't even
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#3086 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> genshou: don't even what? finish sentences?
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#3088 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> Morning, Jared! Did you bring up sandwiches?
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#3090 [18:29] <genshou> DopeGhoti, http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/what-is-this-i-dont-even
#3091 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> the fact that there is even a registered domain of 'know your meme' makes me weep for the future of humanity
#3092 [18:30] <genshou> During my senior year, our school almost caught fire when someone tried to smoke a cigarette in a girls' bathroom
#3093 [18:30] <genshou> DopeGhoti, inb4 Touhou Hijack
#3094 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> genshou: sorry, I don't speak Jive.
#3095 [18:31] <genshou> xD
#3096 [18:31] <genshou> get with the times, man
#3097 [18:32] * DopeGhoti is happy to be sufficiently 'hip' and 'with it', kthxbainao.
#3097 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> </derail>
#3098 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> (were we on rails in the first place?)
#3099 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> ruby on?
#3100 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> Programming languages I have not learned, partial list: ruby
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#3102 [18:35] <Fuzkeren> Hey everyone
#3103 [18:35] <Fuzkeren> does anyone have a few minutes to help me out?
#3104 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> With?
#3105 [18:36] <Fuzkeren> with, i just bought Minecraft a couple of hours ago, and when i mine coal-ore, they don't drop any coal
#3106 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Need a pickaxe
#3107 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> Fuzkeren: are you using a stone pick?
#3108 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> or even a wood pick?
#3109 [18:36] <Fuzkeren> Really? Just to make it drop the coal?
#3110 [18:36] <Fuzkeren> i was just using a stick i think
#3111 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> yeah, a stick just pulverizes the stone
#3112 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> you need a pick to extract ores
#3113 [18:37] <Fuzkeren> aha
#3114 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you need a pickaxe
#3115 [18:37] <Fuzkeren> nice, thanks guys
#3116 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> wood or better
#3117 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#3118 [18:37] <Solvius> test
#3119 [18:37] <Solvius> huh?
#3120 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> Solvius: b+
#3121 [18:38] <Solvius> I cannot send on minecraft channel ?
#3122 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> see the topic therein.
#3123 [18:38] <Solvius> yeah, I see it just
#3124 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> well, are you regestered and identified?
#3125 [18:39] <Solvius> I have no idea :)
#3126 [18:40] <mbentley> Solvius: you aren't
#3127 [18:40] <Solvius> ok
#3128 [18:40] <genshou> Fuzkeren, you need a wooden or better pickaxe for coal, smooth stone, cobblestone, and mossy cobblestone. You need stone or better to mine iron ore, and you need iron or better to mine gold, redstone, and diamond ore. You need a diamond pickaxe to mine obsidian (and it's godawful slow with anything else)
#3129 [18:41] <Fuzkeren> Ok, thanks
#3130 [18:41] <Fuzkeren> I have some other questions
#3131 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Shoot.
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#3133 [18:42] <Fuzkeren> Are there any monsters at all on peaceful?
#3134 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3135 [18:42] <Fuzkeren> Oh.
#3136 [18:42] <Fuzkeren> i guess i didn't need to place myself on this ginourmous tower then
#3137 [18:42] <flabbergaster> I get a black screen after login, but i can still hear the game running. iv redownloaded java,deleted minecraft , tried many diffrent ways to fix it i cant figure it out. but when i do ctr alt delete the current screen that i am on in game will come up frozen and i cant do anything. please advice!!
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#3141 [18:45] <mbentley> glad flabbergaster stuck around...
#3142 [18:46] <frogaincia> sorry i think i was flabbergaster my thing refreshed itself
#3143 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> go go gadget attention span.
#3144 [18:46] <mbentley> ah
#3145 [18:46] <mbentley> frogaincia: have you updated your video drivers?
#3146 [18:47] <frogaincia> Yeah, theres one that i cant seem to update the realtek hd audio card what that do anything to the game
#3147 [18:47] <frogaincia> other then audio
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#3149 [18:48] <mbentley> video card drivers...
#3150 [18:49] <frogaincia> yeah i updated it i have the nvidia 8500 gt or somthing
#3151 [18:49] <mbentley> from the nvidia website?
#3152 [18:50] <frogaincia> throgh the nvidia control panel when i tried to do it directly from the website it redirected me back to the homepage
#3153 [18:50] <mbentley> never heard of doing it through the nvidia control panel
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#3155 [18:51] <mbentley> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
#3156 [18:52] <frogaincia> ill try again.
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#3158 [19:00] <Kratospie> Hey, quick question, can Mobs spawn on the top level of the map?
#3159 [19:02] <Kratospie> anyone?
#3160 [19:02] <mbentley> you mean on the surface?
#3161 [19:03] <Kratospie> Well
#3162 [19:03] <Kratospie> like on the top block
#3163 [19:03] <Kratospie> where you can't build anymore
#3164 [19:03] <mbentley> you wouldn't think so
#3165 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> I'd imagine not, but they can spawn below that point anywhere it's dark enough.
#3166 [19:03] <Kratospie> yeah
#3167 [19:04] <Kratospie> like, if your standing on a point where you can't build up anymore
#3168 [19:04] <Kratospie> mobs' can't spawn there
#3169 [19:04] <Kratospie> righrt
#3170 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> if you can stand there, mobs can spawn there.
#3171 [19:05] <Kratospie> hm
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#3175 [19:10] <Allan> is there a complete guide on setting up a minecraft server on a linux server?
#3176 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> Allan: there are several on the forums; some are even stickied
#3177 [19:11] <Allan> Just found one on the minecraftwiki
#3178 [19:12] * mbentley points to the channel topic
#3178 [19:13] <mbentley> probably links to the same wiki page you found
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#3181 [19:31] <Fuzkeren> I'll go to bed now, thanks for the help earlier, it just became 100 x more fun when i learned how to make torches :D So thanks guys, good mining!
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#3185 [19:36] <GodFather23> hi
#3186 [19:36] <Zuty> Damn ... Of course I have a question about a mod I need for my SMP and I can't talk about it here ...
#3187 [19:36] <GodFather23> any german here ?
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#3189 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> GodFather23: Ein Bischien.
#3190 [19:38] <GodFather23> hmm.. ok i try it in english...
#3191 [19:38] <GodFather23> have some trubble with my acc...
#3192 [19:39] <GodFather23> i donated the game and the launcher say me fail to login
#3193 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> Wie lange ist vergangen, seit du das Spiel gekauft?
#3194 [19:39] <GodFather23> if i klick on offline mode that an try multiplayer he say me that i have no premium account :/
#3195 [19:40] <GodFather23> ca 4-5 Stunden / hours
#3196 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> Was Benutzernamen hast du ausgewählt?
#3197 [19:40] <xales> Dope, accounts are usually instant these days
#3198 [19:40] <xales> just fyi
#3199 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> xales: noted, thx
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#3201 [19:41] <Miniviper> suuuup
#3202 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> Miniviper: Not tume to sup yet.
#3203 [19:41] <GodFather23> hmm ?
#3204 [19:41] <xales> thought I'm not sure if thats what you were even asking, as I said I don't speak german >.>
#3205 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> GodFather23: Wie heisst deine Account?
#3206 [19:41] <Miniviper> sup? whats up?
#3207 [19:41] <Miniviper> v.v
#3208 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> Miniviper: sup (v): to eat supper.
#3209 [19:42] <GodFather23> chrtesch
#3210 [19:42] <Miniviper> >.> well sooooorry
#3211 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> !paid chrtesch
#3212 [19:42] <GodFather23> y
#3213 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> GodFather23: Meldst du bei der Website, www.minecraft.net. Danach sollte das Speil funktionieren, wenn du dich in er log auch.
#3214 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> Es tut mir leid, wenn meine deutsche Sprache ist nicht sehr gut.
#3215 [19:45] <xales> DopeGhoti: it isn't
#3216 [19:45] <xales> im translating it now >.>
#3217 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> oh? I'm glad; it's been years since high school :)
#3218 [19:45] <xales> lol
#3219 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> nice to see it coming in handy. Also; wow; third time in a day
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#3221 [19:46] <Fluuux> hello :D
#3222 [19:46] <Fluuux> guys
#3223 [19:46] <Fluuux> :D
#3224 [19:46] <Fluuux> i need your help this time :P
#3225 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> Fluuux: Wie koennen wir dich helfen?
#3226 [19:46] <Fluuux> ?
#3227 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> er, sorry, how can we help you? :)
#3228 [19:46] <GodFather23> xD
#3229 [19:47] <Fluuux> i need the command on how to delete bed rock
#3230 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> No such thing.
#3231 [19:47] <Fluuux> i accidently placed
#3232 [19:47] <Fluuux> on a server i did
#3233 [19:47] <Fluuux> or on my server....
#3234 [19:47] <GodFather23> xales what are u translating now ? :D
#3235 [19:48] <Fluuux> so anyone?.....
#3236 [19:48] <xales> GodFather23: not much
#3237 [19:48] <Fluuux> xales
#3238 [19:48] <xales> Fluuux
#3239 [19:48] <Fluuux> how can i delete a bedrock i accidently placed?
#3240 [19:49] <Fluuux> on the online server :P
#3241 [19:49] <Cial> you dont if i am not mistaken
#3242 [19:49] <xales> you cannot
#3243 [19:49] <Fluuux> then how can i place them and delte them?
#3244 [19:49] <Fluuux> -.-......
#3245 [19:49] <xales> you can place them
#3246 [19:49] <xales> you cannot delete
#3247 [19:49] <Cial> []
#3248 [19:49] <Fluuux> this is so bad
#3249 [19:50] <Fluuux> D:
#3250 [19:50] <Fluuux> ok well thanks
#3251 [19:50] <Allan> what linux os is better for hosting minecraft servers?
#3252 [19:52] <GodFather23> can someone tell me now why i have no premium account / why failed to login
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#3255 [19:53] <xales> Allan: debian
#3256 [19:53] <xales> DopeGhoti: what username
#3257 [19:53] <xales> err
#3258 [19:53] <xales> GodFather23: what username
#3259 [19:54] <GodFather23> chrtesch
#3260 [19:54] <GodFather23> again ^.^
#3261 [19:54] <GodFather23> i apid
#3262 [19:54] <GodFather23> paid*
#3263 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> xales: it was chrtesch, which AuBot reports is paid.
#3264 [19:55] <Allan> xales, do u have the link to the server files download??
#3265 [19:55] <xales> !server
#3266 [19:55] <Allan> ty
#3267 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> GodFather23: Kannst du auf der WEbseite einloggen?
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#3269 [19:58] <GodFather23> ja ich kann mich auf der website einloggen
#3270 [19:58] <Allan> English?
#3271 [19:59] <GodFather23> ye login on minecraft.net works
#3272 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> GodFather23: Und immer noch nicht, um das Speil einloggen?
#3273 [20:02] <GodFather23> login on minecraft.net works but in game (launcher) doesnt work... failed to login -> Try again / play offline ..... and when i play offline and klick on multiplayer he say i have no premium account :(
#3274 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> Das Spiel hat in mindestens einem für die Offline eingeloggt sein Spiel zu arbeiten
#3275 [20:04] <xales> GodFather23: you have wrong login info
#3276 [20:05] <GodFather23> wrong login info ?
#3277 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> Deine Passwort.
#3278 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> (er glaubt)
#3279 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> Aber wenn du koennst ins Website einloggen, dann ist dein Passwort gut.
#3280 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> Versuchst du es erneut nicht mit "offline", sondern mit deinem Account und das Passwort in das Spiel.
#3281 [20:08] <GodFather23> DropeGhoti what an translator u use ? ^-^
#3282 [20:08] <GodFather23> -r
#3283 [20:08] <xales> google.com/translate
#3284 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> Ich verwende meine Jahre Studium der Sprache, sowie Google Translate für Worte, die ich nicht kenne.
#3285 [20:09] <GodFather23> write it in english i think i understand it
#3286 [20:09] <mbentley> i spoke english once
#3287 [20:10] <mbentley> it was awesome
#3288 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> Very well.. Try logging into the game again. You must log into the game at least once before offline mode will work.
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#3290 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: English is highly overrated. Most of history is angry Celts traipsing across the European countryside, participating in wanton slaighter in search of others' nouns, verbe, and grammatical structure.
#3291 [20:11] <frogzilla> i need help with minecraft
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#3293 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> frogzilla: Could you be more specific?
#3294 [20:11] <Miniviper> derp
#3295 [20:11] <frogzilla> As soon as i log in it goes black screen
#3296 [20:12] <mbentley> i'd rather speak a language that sounds furious like german but i only known english and spanish
#3297 [20:12] <frogzilla> i tryed redownloading
#3298 [20:12] <mbentley> frogzilla:
#3299 [20:12] <mbentley> what os
#3300 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: any language sounds angry if spoken angruly.
#3301 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> er, angrily
#3302 [20:12] <frogzilla> Windows
#3303 [20:12] <mbentley> windows...
#3304 [20:12] <mbentley> 95?
#3305 [20:12] <mbentley> ME
#3306 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> 3.1?
#3307 [20:12] <mbentley> :D
#3308 [20:13] * xales still has a disk of that
#3308 [20:13] <Miniviper> nyeh!
#3309 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> DesqView/386?
#3310 [20:13] <frogzilla> I have no idea on this computer
#3311 [20:13] <frogzilla> on my other comp its vista
#3312 [20:13] <frogzilla> but that has black screens on mc to
#3313 [20:13] <mbentley> ok
#3314 [20:13] <mbentley> go to start
#3315 [20:13] <frogzilla> kk
#3316 [20:13] <mbentley> do you have a 'run' option?
#3317 [20:13] <frogzilla> yes
#3318 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> frogzilla: what version of Java have you got installed?
#3319 [20:13] <frogzilla> uhhh
#3320 [20:13] <frogzilla> hold on
#3321 [20:14] <mbentley> ok, choose that and type in '%appdata$\.minecraft' (without the quotes)
#3322 [20:14] <mbentley> err
#3323 [20:14] <mbentley> %appdata%\.minecraft
#3324 [20:14] * xales says it is older than xp, or mmaaaaayyyyybbbbbeeee xp
#3324 [20:15] * xales and that the issue is the graphics card being a POS
#3324 [20:15] <frogzilla> ok i searched appdata and i see the folder
#3325 [20:15] <mbentley> ok, go inside the .minecraft folder
#3326 [20:15] <mbentley> delete the 'bin' directory
#3327 [20:16] <GodFather23> can i post a screenshot Link in this irc ? for my problem
#3328 [20:16] <frogzilla> got it
#3329 [20:16] <mbentley> GodFather23: sure
#3330 [20:16] <GodFather23> http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z62/AlexScape/eeee-2.jpg
#3331 [20:16] <mbentley> once 'bin' has been deleted, just start minecraft up
#3332 [20:16] <frogzilla> so delete bin?
#3333 [20:16] <mbentley> frogzilla: yes
#3334 [20:16] <mbentley> GodFather23: looks like your computer is having issues contacting the login sver
#3335 [20:16] <mbentley> *server
#3336 [20:16] <mbentley> keep doing 'try again'
#3337 [20:17] <GodFather23> happens the same...
#3338 [20:17] <mbentley> GodFather23: can you go to http://www.minecraft.net ?
#3339 [20:17] <GodFather23> any ports have to be open for minecraft ?
#3340 [20:17] <mbentley> no
#3341 [20:17] <mbentley> if it doesn't come up, then that is why
#3342 [20:17] <mbentley> your system has to be able to communicate with the login servers otherwise you will see that
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#3344 [20:18] <mbentley> it seems that the servers are experiencing slowness (i was having the exact same issue as you earlier)
#3345 [20:18] <Kripster> Hello
#3346 [20:18] <mbentley> hola
#3347 [20:18] <Kripster> How do we get the gift codes?
#3348 [20:18] <Kripster> I have payed out
#3349 [20:18] <Kripster> And havent had no reply
#3350 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> GodFather23: click 'Try again', and clear out and re-enter your account name and password.
#3351 [20:18] <mbentley> Kripster: you should get it in your email and it should be displayed in your account profile on minecraft.net
#3352 [20:19] <xales> Kripster: look in your spam folder and look in the bottom of the "Profile" page on minecraft.net
#3353 [20:19] <Kripster> I have checked and on the profiler
#3354 [20:19] <Kripster> profile*
#3355 [20:19] <mbentley> frogzilla: once you have deleted 'bin', just start minecraft and see if it works
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#3357 [20:19] <mbentley> Kripster: sounds like it hasn't processed yet then
#3358 [20:19] <Kripster> I already have premium on the account i bought it on
#3359 [20:19] <GodFather23> DopeGhoti ok i try...
#3360 [20:19] <Kripster> Ok
#3361 [20:20] <GodFather23> omg im so stupid XDD
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#3363 [20:20] <frogonia> quick question if anyone has time to help out... im trying to get a portal to work, but i dont know if im doing it right or not
#3364 [20:20] <xales> Kripster: did you use paypal or direct credit card
#3365 [20:20] <Kripster> Direct
#3366 [20:20] <Miniviper> I still want a gift code... my friends are hard to persuade
#3367 [20:20] <xales> frogonia: http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Portal
#3368 [20:20] <Kripster> I used direct when i bought my premium
#3369 [20:20] <frogonia> i looked at that...
#3370 [20:20] <Kripster> And it as instant
#3371 [20:20] <Kripster> was*
#3372 [20:21] <xales> Kripster: it may take a day or so
#3373 [20:21] <frogonia> or rather, i didnt see that super awesome diagram the first time...
#3374 [20:21] <frogonia> it appears my error was not placing those bottom blocks T_T
#3375 [20:21] <frogonia> thanks though! :)
#3376 [20:21] <GodFather23> i dont checked that i used an other username and all the time i tryed to login in the game that username was saved... omg ^.^
#3377 [20:22] <Kripster> Why would it take a day when it previously took less then 5 mins?
#3378 [20:22] <xales> Kripster: it depends on how many payments it is currently processing, as well as the different processing method used by gift codes
#3379 [20:23] <Miniviper> so confused....
#3380 [20:23] <Kripster> Got a bad feeling about this....
#3381 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> GodFather23: so you're all set now? :)
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#3383 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> GodFather23: Sehr gut! Habst gute Spielen!
#3384 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> Rustywolf: Welcome to #minecrafthelp, where mines are real mines, crafts are real crafts, and Art is that guy in the corner. How can we help?
#3385 [20:26] <Miniviper> nigohardefusta!
#3386 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> Miniviper: gesundheit!
#3387 [20:27] <Miniviper> hajimashite!
#3388 [20:27] * DopeGhoti hands Miniviper a tissue.
#3388 [20:27] <Miniviper> >.>
#3389 [20:27] <Miniviper> even know what im saying
#3390 [20:30] <Kripster> Shouldnt i get an email after payment just to tell me you recieved it?
#3391 [20:30] <Miniviper> tatsu
#3392 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> Kripster: generally, yes.
#3393 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> Miniviper: kendo.
#3394 [20:30] <Kripster> Is there a contact number or customer service?
#3395 [20:31] <Miniviper> no
#3396 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> Kripster: payments@mojang.com
#3397 [20:31] <Miniviper> DopeGhoti japaneeese!
#3398 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> Kripster: there may be a phone number, but I don't know if you want to be calling Sweeden.
#3399 [20:31] <xales> DopeGhoti: not for the normal processor
#3400 [20:31] <xales> for paypal, yes
#3401 [20:31] <Miniviper> tatsu=dragon hajimashite= how do you do? nigohardefusta=???? random stuff
#3402 [20:31] <GodFather23> ok guys thx for help have a nice day =)
#3403 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> GodFather23: have fun!
#3404 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> Miniviper: just about the only Japanese I know is Dentaku.
#3405 [20:32] <Miniviper> what is that
#3406 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> Pocket calculator.
#3407 [20:32] <Miniviper> hahahha
#3408 [20:32] <Miniviper> do you like koora?
#3409 [20:32] <Kripster> Well i need to push the process before i get put in the doghouse XD
#3410 [20:32] <Miniviper> I forgot how to say it...
#3411 [20:33] <Miniviper> Hey kripster wanna buy me a gift code? if you have spare money?
#3412 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> I amn't familiar with koora.
#3413 [20:33] <Miniviper> koora=cola
#3414 [20:34] <Kripster> Erm i dont think so, sorry
#3415 [20:34] <Kripster> Still havent got mine and dont think i will be
#3416 [20:34] <Miniviper> lol I was jk
#3417 [20:34] <Miniviper> its ok lol
#3418 [20:34] <Miniviper> I will just randomly say things sometimes
#3419 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> Miniviper: I'm more of a root beer guy than a cola guy.
#3420 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> Cherry coke ain't bad though
#3421 [20:34] <xales> how could you DopeGhoti!
#3422 [20:34] <xales> cola is the best
#3423 [20:35] <Miniviper> hmmmm
#3424 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> xales: I don't _dis_like cola, it's just not My Thing.
#3425 [20:35] <Miniviper> I just love pop
#3426 [20:35] <Miniviper> did you know that mt dew is sperm killer?
#3427 [20:35] <xales> DopeGhoti: but it is THE thing
#3428 [20:35] * DopeGhoti prefers Industrial to Pop.
#3428 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> Miniviper: anyone that uses any soda as a stopgap spermicide deserves any children they get.
#3429 [20:36] <Miniviper> hahahha
#3430 [20:36] <Miniviper> yup
#3431 [20:36] <Miniviper> I want minecraft so badly it makes my chest burn
#3432 [20:36] <xales> lol, soda as a spermicide
#3433 [20:36] <xales> Miniviper: play classic or watch youtube videos
#3434 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> Miniviper: so.. buy yourself a copy?
#3435 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> it's not exactly a weeks' salary.
#3436 [20:37] <Miniviper> 1. no credit card
#3437 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> 1. not needed.
#3438 [20:37] <Miniviper> 2. classic sucks and I have no sound for youtube
#3439 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> 2. Irrelavent.
#3440 [20:37] <Miniviper> how do you expect me to get it then
#3441 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> Take some cash, go to a bank, open an account, tie it to PayPal, and enjoy the game
#3442 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> not rocket surgery.
#3443 [20:38] <Miniviper> im a freshmen in highschool >.>
#3444 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> so?
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#3446 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> that doesn't stop you from opening yourself an account
#3447 [20:38] <Miniviper> 18 and older unless an adult makes it
#3448 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> okaaay, go to a bank that doesn't suck
#3449 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> or better yet, a credit union.
#3450 [20:39] <Miniviper> idk....
#3451 [20:39] <Miniviper> I have a savings account with 200 in it
#3452 [20:39] <Miniviper> but savings account
#3453 [20:39] <mbentley> could always ask someome who has a credit card nicely (a parent) if they will buy a gift code for you and you can pay them back...
#3454 [20:39] <Miniviper> this was already talked about last night....
#3455 [20:40] <Miniviper> 1.divoriced 2.my dad doesnt trust games and my mom is insane
#3456 [20:40] <mbentley> sorry, wasn't here last night
#3457 [20:40] <Miniviper> its ok
#3458 [20:40] <Miniviper> I just summed it up
#3459 [20:40] <mbentley> :)
#3460 [20:40] <Miniviper> =D
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#3462 [20:40] <Nicholas-c> Hey :P
#3463 [20:40] <Miniviper> yo
#3464 [20:41] <Nicholas-c> Minecraft servers.
#3465 [20:41] <Nicholas-c> more to the point ones like; http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=19181fc1edef1b3aecb1bac71ed81c25
#3466 [20:41] <Nicholas-c> i have a linux server
#3467 [20:41] <Nicholas-c> that hosts my site atm
#3468 [20:41] <Nicholas-c> plenty of bandwidth and CPU
#3469 [20:41] <xales> minecraft is mostly a ram hog
#3470 [20:42] <Nicholas-c> yeah
#3471 [20:42] <Nicholas-c> not a problem
#3472 [20:42] <Miniviper> anyone know why they killed the survivaltest?
#3473 [20:42] <xales> because it was replaced with real survival?
#3474 [20:43] <xales> Nicholas-c: how much is "not a problem", exactly
#3475 [20:43] <Nicholas-c> got a gig installed in it :P
#3476 [20:43] <Nicholas-c> its by my feet so
#3477 [20:43] <mbentley> 1 gb of ram isn't a lot for a minecraft server
#3478 [20:43] <mbentley> especially if it is running windows
#3479 [20:44] <Nicholas-c> its running ubuntu
#3480 [20:44] <xales> yeah 1gb won't cut it if you want any more than a few clients or have much else running
#3481 [20:44] <Miniviper> I miss the survivaltest
#3482 [20:44] <Nicholas-c> worth giving it a shot anyways
#3483 [20:45] <Kripster> Anyone bought a gift code before?
#3484 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> I have.
#3485 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> Miniviper: seriously dude, just open your own account, and do what you want with your own money.
#3486 [20:46] <mbentley> Nicholas-c: certainly can't hurt to try :)
#3487 [20:46] <Nicholas-c> yeah
#3488 [20:47] <Nicholas-c> so. The queston is. How do i run a classic server like the one i mentioned?
#3489 [20:47] <Nicholas-c> i got a "normal" one running
#3490 [20:47] <Nicholas-c> where it generates a world
#3491 [20:47] <Nicholas-c> etc
#3492 [20:48] <xales> what are you trying to do
#3493 [20:49] <Kripster> How long did it take you guys?
#3494 [20:49] <xales> the amount of time it takes depends on how many other purchases it has to process, as well as some other factors
#3495 [20:49] <Allan> !server
#3496 [20:51] <Nicholas-c> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=178.79.143.25
#3497 [20:51] <Nicholas-c> how do i get it like http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=19181fc1edef1b3aecb1bac71ed81c25 though/
#3498 [20:52] <Nicholas-c> flat and i imagine mods
#3499 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> Miniviper: md5sum?
#3500 [20:52] <xales> DopeGhoti: he doesn't mean the url I think
#3501 [20:52] <xales> Nicholas-c: that would be with mods. which we do not support here
#3502 [20:53] <Nicholas-c> xales, surely you know how to do it anyway? :P
#3503 [20:53] <xales> why would I?
#3504 [20:53] <xales> I don't run classic servers, and I don't use mods
#3505 [20:54] <mbentley> ^^+1
#3506 [20:55] <Nicholas-c> no need to be arse-y about it.
#3507 [20:56] <Miniviper> nyeardgadf
#3508 [20:56] <Miniviper> md5sum whaaaat?
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#3510 [20:58] <Allan> I am getting this warning message "2011-01-11 09:00:40 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?"
#3511 [20:58] <Allan> but the server is not overloaded or anything
#3512 [21:00] <Miniviper> no way!
#3513 [21:00] <Miniviper> welcome back mr
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#3515 [21:02] <Yossi> how do i open the server console?
#3516 [21:03] <mbentley> Yossi: you are running the server? what os?
#3517 [21:03] <Yossi> my bf is running it on win7 x64
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#3519 [21:06] <mbentley> well it depends on how he is running it exactly. if he just runs the .exe, then it would probably just be open
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#3525 [21:20] <xales> Allan: that is normal
#3526 [21:20] <xales> as long as it doesnt spam it every couple seconds
#3527 [21:20] <Miniviper> derp
#3528 [21:22] <sinedeviance> hey xales
#3529 [21:22] <sinedeviance> whats up
#3530 [21:22] <xales> not much
#3531 [21:22] <Yossi> grawr
#3532 [21:22] <sinedeviance> xales: yeah, same here. i just uploaded the latest version of my texture pack. if i have to look at paint.net again today i will die.
#3533 [21:23] <xales> lol, texure pack
#3534 [21:23] <xales> :/
#3535 [21:23] <Yossi> so server commands should be available by opening the 'chat' line and entering them, no?
#3536 [21:23] <sinedeviance> xales: why lol?
#3537 [21:23] <xales> you making one?
#3538 [21:23] <Yossi> i.e. /tp player1 player2
#3539 [21:24] <xales> Yossi: if you are an op
#3540 [21:24] <xales> or have permission or whatever
#3541 [21:24] <Yossi> if i am added as an op do i have to dc and reconnect?
#3542 [21:24] <xales> I don't know
#3543 [21:24] <sinedeviance> xales: yeah. it's already pretty much done. all i have left most of the items.
#3544 [21:24] <sinedeviance> are most*
#3545 [21:25] <Allan> LOL, they put me on a overloaded server, i am getting "1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 56.1713 s, 19.1 MB/s" when i do this command "dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync"
#3546 [21:25] <Allan> no wonder I was getting that warning
#3547 [21:25] <xales> eh
#3548 [21:25] <xales> 20mb/s is a decent speed
#3549 [21:25] <xales> lol
#3550 [21:26] <Allan> yea, but with what server specs
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#3552 [21:28] * mib_6zlzmi [mib_6zlzmi@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3553 [21:28] <mib_6zlzmi> hi all
#3554 [21:28] <xales> hello
#3555 [21:29] <mib_6zlzmi> remmember ferdinand
#3556 [21:29] <mib_6zlzmi> the kid with the nvidia problem
#3557 [21:30] <xales> not really, why?
#3558 [21:30] <mib_6zlzmi> it crashed my comp again
#3559 [21:30] <xales> what did
#3560 [21:30] <mib_6zlzmi> nvidia driver
#3561 [21:30] <mib_6zlzmi> linux
#3562 [21:30] <xales> uh..when you say crashed
#3563 [21:30] <xales> what exactly do you mean
#3564 [21:31] <mib_6zlzmi> it erased my default driver, does not install nvidia and sticks me in tty
#3565 [21:31] <mib_6zlzmi> im not here to fix just joined if there is anybody on
#3566 [21:32] <xales> eh..if you are here to talk i suggest getting a name and a real client >.>
#3567 [21:32] <mib_6zlzmi> by creating an account?
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#3569 [21:32] <xales> no
#3570 [21:32] <xales> with /nick
#3571 [21:32] <odielag> I have a question, is there a way to see who placed lava and griefed someone?
#3572 [21:32] <xales> and by downloading a real client >.>
#3573 [21:32] <xales> odielag: not without a mod
#3574 [21:33] <odielag> ok. I'll try the hey0 channel
#3575 [21:33] <xales> if you didn't have the mod installed when it happened
#3576 [21:33] <xales> you can't look retroactively
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#3581 [21:50] <xales> Kealper
#3582 [21:50] <William|GCP> is there any guide for setting minecraft up as a service?
#3583 [21:50] <xales> you can't
#3584 [21:50] <William|GCP> the server that is
#3585 [21:51] <xales> no, I seriously doubt it is possible
#3586 [21:51] <xales> minecraft uses java, which is garbage
#3587 [21:51] <genshou> :v
#3588 [21:51] <William|GCP> javas not garbage
#3589 [21:51] <genshou> My sister's best friend made me a birthday card
#3590 [21:51] <William|GCP> probably older then you
#3591 [21:51] <genshou> with a creeper on it
#3592 [21:51] <William|GCP> and st ill in use
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#3594 [21:55] <xales> lol
#3595 [21:55] <xales> wrong on every point
#3596 [21:55] <xales> java is garbage. java first appeared in 1995. java still being in use means nothing. C has been around since the 80s
#3597 [21:56] <genshou> Yep, it's garbage :\
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#3599 [21:58] <William|GCP> i find it robust
#3600 [21:58] <William|GCP> easy to code cross platform
#3601 [21:58] <William|GCP> while not the ideal choice
#3602 [21:58] <William|GCP> id vote its far from garbage
#3603 [21:58] <William|GCP> but bashing what these guys use to code their game is pointless
#3604 [21:58] <William|GCP> and childish
#3605 [21:59] <William|GCP> and yes you can run it as a service, i just did
#3606 [21:59] <xales> I can bash whatever I like
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#3608 [21:59] <xales> lol
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#3611 [22:03] <Roenie> how the **** did my huge wooden house catch fire when i wasn't there, no one else was
#3612 [22:03] <Roenie> i did see a creeper on the roof, but that can't be it?
#3613 [22:03] <xales> single player or multiplayer
#3614 [22:04] <Roenie> private server, only player was me at the time
#3615 [22:04] <xales> there was either A: lava near your house or B: someone lighted it on fire
#3616 [22:04] <xales> lit*
#3617 [22:04] <Roenie> there was an incinerator in my wall, yes
#3618 [22:04] <Roenie> which hadn't caused problems for a week
#3619 [22:05] <Roenie> so if it's that, it must be a bug?
#3620 [22:05] <xales> it can spit fire out of it
#3621 [22:05] <xales> if wood is close enough
#3622 [22:05] <xales> not a bug
#3623 [22:06] <Roenie> i see
#3624 [22:06] <Roenie> so you have to plug it up
#3625 [22:06] <xales> no
#3626 [22:06] <xales> just keep wood far away
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#3628 [22:06] <Roenie> will wood catch fire even if the lava is contained in stone completely?
#3629 [22:07] <Roenie> on all sides?
#3630 [22:07] <xales> it shouldn't
#3631 [22:08] <Roenie> there was a furnace in front and below the only open side of the incinerator
#3632 [22:08] <Roenie> so the "spitfire" must have gone over that
#3633 [22:08] <Roenie> to hit the wood floor
#3634 [22:08] <xales> probably
#3635 [22:08] <Roenie> hmm no even the floor was stone
#3636 [22:09] <Roenie> first wood block wood have been 3 blocks to a side on which the lava was encased in stone
#3637 [22:09] <xales> no idea then
#3638 [22:09] <xales> someone may have lit it on fire >.>
#3639 [22:09] <Roenie> no, as i said, i was alone
#3640 [22:10] <Roenie> /list = me
#3641 [22:10] <xales> I have no idea then :\
#3642 [22:10] <Roenie> meh
#3643 [22:10] <Roenie> could have been the fireplace too
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#3645 [22:11] <Roenie> but that also never caused a prob b4
#3646 [22:11] <xales> it could just have been a fluke that the fire spread or something
#3647 [22:11] <Roenie> it happened to a mate of mine earlier too actually
#3648 [22:11] <Roenie> when he built his fireplace he had 3 blocks of bricks inbetween that and wood
#3649 [22:12] <Roenie> and it just caught fire anyway
#3650 [22:12] <Roenie> then he rebuilt it, and it worked fine
#3651 [22:12] <Roenie> i bet there's a bug there somewhere
#3652 [22:12] <Roenie> also if it was lava spitting fire,
#3653 [22:13] <Roenie> it makes no sense that it was fine for about 10 days
#3654 [22:13] <Roenie> and then suddenly not
#3655 [22:13] <Roenie> unless the creeper had something to do with it
#3656 [22:13] <Roenie> do they catch fire from fire sources?
#3657 [22:14] <xales> creepers?
#3658 [22:14] <xales> they will take damage but not spread fire or stay on fire for long
#3659 [22:14] <Roenie> yea, and then can they set wood blocks on fire as they run around?
#3660 [22:14] <Roenie> hmm
#3661 [22:16] * Roenie replaces world with a backup
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#3663 [22:22] <Roenie> ok, fire sources eliminated
#3664 [22:22] <Roenie> nothing much lost
#3665 [22:22] <Roenie> yay for daily backups
#3666 [22:23] <xales> !uptime
#3667 [22:23] <nipper> WindowsVista Uptime: 1day 7hrs 22mins 17secs Best: 3wks 3days 5hrs 1min 3secs
#3668 [22:23] <xales> nipper, turn that off ._.
#3669 [22:23] <nipper> Lol did not know it was on.
#3670 [22:24] <xales> lol
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#3674 [22:30] <Altitudes> lol
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#3676 [22:32] <c0mputer> hello, peoplez
#3677 [22:32] <xales> hello
#3678 [22:33] <c0mputer> i need some help texturing armor
#3679 [22:33] <xales> what specifically
#3680 [22:34] <c0mputer> the .png files in the armor folder of minecraft.bin
#3681 [22:34] <c0mputer> i dont know what part corresponds to what
#3682 [22:34] <c0mputer> i
#3683 [22:35] <xales> I can't help you there
#3684 [22:38] <CornstarchPudding> The first one is for the head, torso, and feet parts, and the second one is for the legs
#3685 [22:41] <c0mputer> i need more detail, is there a chart of it anywhere?
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#3688 [22:54] <Infinity8> is anyone here?
#3689 [22:55] <Yossi> mebbe
#3690 [22:55] <Infinity8> i need some info
#3691 [22:55] <Infinity8> how do people get unicorns, bunnies, horses, flying unicorns in minecraft
#3692 [22:55] <Infinity8> and it's single player..
#3693 [22:56] <CornstarchPudding> They don't exist in Minecraft
#3694 [22:56] <Infinity8> i know that
#3695 [22:56] <Infinity8> it's a mod...
#3696 [22:56] <Infinity8> im just wondering what mod it is
#3697 [22:57] <xales> try google?
#3698 [22:57] <CornstarchPudding> and you obviously didn't take any notice of AuBot's message
#3699 [22:57] <Infinity8> uh
#3700 [22:57] <Infinity8> no support...
#3701 [22:57] <Infinity8> ho kay
#3702 [22:57] <Infinity8> bye then...
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#3704 [23:11] <Yossi> So… if i make a portal and go to the nether, can i make a portal from within the nether?
#3705 [23:11] <xales> yes
#3706 [23:12] <Yossi> thank you!
#3707 [23:12] <xales> GreyVulpine: seen kealper around? :/
#3708 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> !seen kealper
#3709 [23:12] <mbentley> Kealper joined #minecraft 0d 5h 33m 22s ago.
#3710 [23:12] <crickets> I last saw kealper (Kealper@190.120.238.65) 6hrs 3mins 56secs ago, talking in #MineCraftHelp. They were saying: yes, i remember you
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#3712 [23:13] * crickets chirp
#3712 [23:13] <xales> !seen crickets
#3713 [23:13] * crickets waves to xales.
#3713 [23:13] <mbentley> crickets last said 'I last saw kealper (Kealper@190.120.238.65) 6hrs 3mins 56secs ago, talking in #MineCraftHelp. They were saying: yes, i remember you' on #minecrafthelp 0d 0h 1m 21s ago.
#3714 [23:13] <xales> !seen crickets
#3715 [23:13] * crickets waves to xales.
#3715 [23:13] <mbentley> crickets last said 'I last saw kealper (Kealper@190.120.238.65) 6hrs 3mins 56secs ago, talking in #MineCraftHelp. They were saying: yes, i remember you' on #minecrafthelp 0d 0h 1m 27s ago.
#3716 [23:14] <xales> !seen mbentley
#3717 [23:14] <mbentley> mbentley last said 'crickets last said 'I last saw kealper (Kealper@190.120.238.65) 6hrs 3mins 56secs ago, talking in #MineCraftHelp. They were saying: yes, i remember you' on #minecrafthelp 0d 0h 1m 27s ago.' on #minecrafthelp 0d 0h 0m 21s ago.
#3718 [23:14] <crickets> I last saw mbentley (mbentley@c-76-29-4-91.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 21secs ago, talking in #MineCraftHelp. They were saying: crickets last said 'I last saw kealper (Kealper@190.120.238.65) 6hrs 3mins 56secs ago, talking in #MineCraftHelp. They were saying: yes, i remember you' on #minecrafthelp 0d 0h 1m 27s ago.
#3719 [23:14] <xales> !seen mbentley
#3720 [23:14] <crickets> I last saw mbentley (mbentley@c-76-29-4-91.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 6secs ago, talking in #MineCraftHelp. They were saying: mbentley last said 'crickets last said 'I last saw kealper (Kealper@190.120.238.65) 6hrs 3mins 56secs ago, talking in #MineCraftHelp. They were saying: yes, i remember you' on #minecrafthelp 0d 0h 1m 27s ago.' on #minecrafthelp 0d 0h 0m 21s ago.
#3721 [23:14] <mbentley> mbentley last said 'mbentley last said 'crickets last said 'I last saw kealper (Kealper@190.120.238.65) 6hrs 3mins 56secs ago, talking in #MineCraftHelp. They were saying: yes, i remember you' on #minecrafthelp 0d 0h 1m 27s ago.' on #minecrafthelp 0d 0h 0m 21s ago.' on #minecrafthelp 0d 0h 0m 7s ago.
#3722 [23:14] * GreyVulpine stabs xales
#3722 [23:14] <xales> lol @ repeating in mbentley's
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#3724 [23:17] <Kaito> okay, i've got a doozie of a question for you guys
#3725 [23:17] <Kaito> I was just at a friends house trying to fix his minecraft
#3726 [23:17] <rev-lemon> whats up
#3727 [23:18] <Kaito> He was playing for about a week just fine on Windows 7 64 bit, and then something with his computer went weird, and he used a restore point
#3728 [23:18] <Kaito> Minecraft would run autoupdate, then a black screen
#3729 [23:18] <Kaito> now, before you say "easy fix", just wait
#3730 [23:18] <xales> !reinstall
#3731 [23:18] <xales> do that
#3732 [23:19] <Kaito> I deleted the bin folder, the entire .minecraft folder, reinstalled java, tried the two different minecraft downloads, and downloaded a "Fix"
#3733 [23:19] <Kaito> yup
#3734 [23:19] <Kaito> tried that
#3735 [23:19] <Kaito> twice
#3736 [23:19] <Kaito> wait, 3 times
#3737 [23:19] <Kaito> nothing
#3738 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> Define, "Something with his computer went weird"
#3739 [23:19] <xales> "something on his computer went weird" define this
#3740 [23:19] <xales> ninja'd
#3741 [23:19] <xales> ._.
#3742 [23:19] <rev-lemon> sounds like it
#3743 [23:20] <Kaito> he didn't tell me, all he said was he restored the computer to an earlier date
#3744 [23:20] <Kaito> iTunes crapped out at the same time; not sure if thats related
#3745 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> How much earlier?
#3746 [23:20] <Kaito> yesterday
#3747 [23:20] <Kaito> ohj
#3748 [23:20] <Kaito> he didn't tell me
#3749 [23:20] <Kaito> he didnt' tell me until 5 minutes before i left
#3750 [23:20] <xales> well, we can't really help without knowing a cause of the issue
#3751 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> Would've been nice to know
#3752 [23:20] <Kaito> crap
#3753 [23:21] <Kaito> Thats all i know, sorry
#3754 [23:21] <Kaito> and i doubt he knows anything more
#3755 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Did he have his drivers rolled back to a previous version. Did he check to see if his video card drivers were up to date.
#3756 [23:21] <Kaito> he's not exactly...computer literate
#3757 [23:21] <Kaito> we updated the drivers
#3758 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Which ones, from where?
#3759 [23:21] <Kaito> Nvidia GeForce GE220 from the Nvidia website
#3760 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> GE220?
#3761 [23:22] <Kaito> G220
#3762 [23:22] <Kaito> sorry
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#3764 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> Was that all?
#3765 [23:22] <Kaito> yes
#3766 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> How about aero? You said he was on win7?
#3767 [23:23] <Kaito> correct, he is on win 7, and Aero?
#3768 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Yes, Aero.
#3769 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Was it on?
#3770 [23:24] <Kaito> i believe so, but it was working before he hit the restore point
#3771 [23:24] <Kaito> working for a week
#3772 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> I've seen Aero cause some black screens with Win7.
#3773 [23:24] <Kaito> by the way, thank you for helping me
#3774 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> It's what we're here for.
#3775 [23:25] <Kaito> so then, just have him disable it?
#3776 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> So you've deleted .minecraft, uninstall and reinstalled java, updated video drivers, redownloaded minecraft, did you check the browser version as well?
#3777 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> And what was this "fix"?
#3778 [23:26] <Kaito> it did work in the browser, until we reinstalled java, then windows wont let the ActiveX controller install, since it's an unknwon publisher
#3779 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> And yes Kaito, changing the theme from Aero back to basic is a good test
#3780 [23:26] <Kaito> and the fix was...*finds link*
#3781 [23:27] <Kaito> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETk_UyXcl9Y
#3782 [23:27] <Kaito> in the description of a fix
#3783 [23:27] <Kaito> it's just a duplicate bin folder
#3784 [23:27] <Kaito> i'll talk to him about the Aero, thank you
#3785 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that video's mighty out of date
#3786 [23:28] <Kaito> there was one on minecraftforum.net...
#3787 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, was just copying over a 'known' good set of /bin files
#3788 [23:28] <Kaito> right
#3789 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> But that video's from Sept.
#3790 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> It can be a good step, if you're back at your friend's place, get one of us to copy over a recent /bin folder
#3791 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> or, /bin and /resource
#3792 [23:30] <Kaito> after i delted the .minecraft, i noticed that only /bin was being recreated, not a /resource
#3793 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3794 [23:30] <Kaito> i figure thats because he cant even past the black screen...
#3795 [23:31] <Kaito> when i deleted .minecraft, i had it open as i started minecraft
#3796 [23:31] <Kaito> lastlogin was created, as well as /bin
#3797 [23:31] <Kaito> and that was it
#3798 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Some black screen issues, the cause is a corrupt download
#3799 [23:31] <Kaito> we redownloaded
#3800 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> or a download that didn't finish
#3801 [23:32] <Kaito> black screen after logging in
#3802 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#3803 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> I just deleted my /resource folder, it redownloaded it when I logged in
#3804 [23:32] <Kaito> right...
#3805 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Might be pointing to a connection/security problem then
#3806 [23:33] <Kaito> i did'nt want to mess around in his firewall too much
#3807 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> You said that you got an unknown publisher thing when using the browser version
#3808 [23:33] <Kaito> his parents think that minecraft screwed up iTunes
#3809 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Check windows/java security, see if there's a setting in there that's preventing java from downloading
#3810 [23:34] <Kaito> he was using Internet Explorer, and the browser version wouldn't run because of an ActiveX controller
#3811 [23:34] * GreyVulpine nods
#3811 [23:34] <Kaito> and windows wouldn't let the ActiveX controller download because it's under an unknown publisher
#3812 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> I've seen that exact problem once before, a while back.
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#3814 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> Can't recall...
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#3816 [23:35] * xales pokes GreyVulpine with a stick
#3816 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Ow
#3817 [23:35] <Kaito> like i said, his parents werent exaclty thrilled with me (although i fixed their iTunes, and his mom made me cookies), so messing with their firewall was out of the question
#3818 [23:35] <Braethias> I want to run a server for just me and my roommate, and I'm not having any luck finding a way to do that with BETA. Am I SOL, or am I just being dumb and not seeing something important?
#3819 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> Not asking you to mess with the firewall, there are several built-in security settings inside windows however.
#3820 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> Braethias - Beta server software is on the site
#3821 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> It might say alpha (still), but it's beta
#3822 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> Go to the same page where you got the beta client
#3823 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> It's at the bottom of the page
#3824 [23:36] <Braethias> Oh, is it? I looked but didn't see it. I'll pop over there. I just got the download on the main page there.
#3825 [23:37] * GreyVulpine sighs
#3825 [23:37] <Cial> jeb has been informed of that mixup and it should be changed soon
#3826 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it still says "Multiplayer alpha server software"
#3827 [23:37] <Braethias> Aha, found it. Thanks, lolz
#3828 [23:38] <xales> Grey, I just realized an issue...heh
#3829 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3830 [23:39] <Kaito> well, thank you very much GreyVulpine, you have been of much help. I'll talk to him tomorrow, as it is 10:39 local time
#3831 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
#3832 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Please drop by if we can help you diagnose the problem further.
#3833 [23:40] <Kaito> I'll let you know if it works, and what fixed it if it does
#3834 [23:40] <Kaito> Will do :)
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#3837 [23:41] <FG10> how do i download the latest neightly build
#3838 [23:42] <xales> can't yet
#3839 [23:42] <FG10> omgwtfbbq'
#3840 [23:42] <FG10> for srs?
#3841 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3842 [23:42] <FG10> wtf but notch said i could
#3843 [23:43] <FG10> look!
#3844 [23:43] <FG10> For Minecraft, if you want to, you will be able to play the latest unstable nightly build. If you choose to, it will be installed parallel to the normal game, and it will be VERY buggy. But you’ll also get access to the absolutely latest version of the game, way before we do any releases. We’re also looking into putting up a Twitter bot that broadcasts all SV
#3845 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> You will be able to, not you are able to
#3846 [23:43] <FG10> thats what he said!
#3847 [23:43] <FG10> w/e
#3848 [23:43] * GreyVulpine eyerolls.
#3848 [23:44] <xales> lol
#3849 [23:44] <Cial> ladies and gentlemen the decline of western civilization
#3850 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, that's been going on for decades now
#3851 [23:46] <sinedeviance> hi all
#3852 [23:47] <sinedeviance> i am so absent-minded sometimes
#3853 [23:47] <sinedeviance> i made a progress indicator animation for my texture pack, then i went and forgot to include it in the updated release :\
#3854 [23:53] <Braethias> Is there a setup thing I can look through? My brain is going pbbthtpthp.
#3855 [23:53] <xales> setup for what?
#3856 [23:54] <Braethias> Multiplay beta server via LAN for my roommate and I
#3857 [23:54] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3858 [23:54] <xales> download .exe, run it. look up local IP. profit
#3859 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Really nothing to it, you run it, turn off your local firewalls
#3860 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> connect via local IP
#3861 [23:54] <Braethias> Roger. Will try that.
#3862 [23:55] <aetherian> minecraft was confirmed to become at least twenty times better very very soon.
#3863 [23:55] <aetherian> :)
#3864 [23:55] * aetherian is happiest guy alive
#3864 [23:55] <xales> stop trolling
#3865 [23:56] <aetherian> what me?
#3866 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Wow, AMD's CEO resigns
#3867 [23:57] <xales> O_o
#3868 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> http://www.anandtech.com/show/4123/what-a-day-amds-ceo-dirk-meyer-resigns
#3869 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/dirk-meyer-ceo-search-seifert,11972.html
#3870 [23:58] <xales> thats amusing, link 2 is 1 character shorter than link one
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#3872 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Hah - "ioSafe's Rugged Drive Meets a Shotgun and an M6"
#3873 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ioSafe-Rugged-Harddrives-Vegas-Shooting-Range-M6,11956.html