#1 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> That's not an M6...
#2 [00:02] <xales> read editor note at bottom
#3 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#4 [00:06] <Braethias> Well, I got it to work. But now we can't actually mine anything. It acts like it's mined but then instantly re-appears
#5 [00:06] <xales> Braethias: move away from spawn
#6 [00:06] <Braethias> Aight. Will try. Thanks.
#7 [00:08] <Braethias> All good now, thank you all very much.
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#9 [00:12] <Phayze> someone want to help me set up a server with hamachi?
#10 [00:12] <Phayze> or without
#11 [00:14] <xales> where do you get stuck
#12 [00:14] <Phayze> i have a server up
#13 [00:14] <Phayze> just cant get my buddy to connect
#14 [00:14] <xales> what IP are you giving him?
#15 [00:15] <Phayze> ... what do you mean which ip
#16 [00:15] <xales> when your friend tries to connect
#17 [00:15] <xales> what IP does he use
#18 [00:16] <Phayze> um
#19 [00:16] <Phayze> ive given him a bunch
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#21 [00:17] <xales> give me a list of them
#22 [00:17] <Phayze> he just told me the 192. etc are LAN only.... which could be part of the problem
#23 [00:17] <Phayze> i just gave him 5.186.0.242
#24 [00:17] <xales> is that your IP address?
#25 [00:18] <xales> also, did you port forward?
#26 [00:18] <Phayze> its the Hamachi one on my ipconfig
#27 [00:18] <Phayze> i dont think i have
#28 [00:18] <Phayze> i just did an "whats my ip" got this
#29 [00:18] <Phayze> 99.120.169.185
#30 [00:19] <xales> do you have the server running right now?
#31 [00:19] <Phayze> yeah
#32 [00:19] <Phayze> sitting it in
#33 [00:19] <xales> !check 99.120.169.185
#34 [00:19] <xales> you didn't port forward then
#35 [00:19] <xales> you must do that
#36 [00:19] <Phayze> hmmm
#37 [00:20] <Phayze> want to tell me how?
#38 [00:20] <xales> portforward.com
#39 [00:20] <Phayze> lolk
#40 [00:20] <xales> skip the ads telling you to buy something
#41 [00:20] <xales> select the model of your router on the first page then "Minecraft server" on the second
#42 [00:21] <Phayze> omg
#43 [00:21] <Phayze> so many routers
#44 [00:21] <Phayze> ATnT = AT&T?
#45 [00:21] <xales> I assume so
#46 [00:22] <Phayze> thats what im thinkin
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#48 [01:05] <nipper> Can someone tell me why clocks stop working in minecraft when i leave the area?
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#50 [01:05] <xales> yes
#51 [01:05] <xales> chunks that aren't loaded into ram aren't processed
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#56 [01:36] <aetherian> hmm
#57 [01:37] <aetherian> what does aubot do now that kicks people?
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#59 [01:42] <aetherian> hey bill
#60 [01:42] <aetherian> 'sup
#61 [01:47] <aetherian> a minecraft clock block would be cool...
#62 [01:48] <Cial> indeed
#63 [01:49] <aetherian> although it would probably take more supplies than a watch, so would be mainly impractical. except for servers, I suppose. and who needs practicality?
#64 [01:51] <Cial> practicality < epicness
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#66 [01:54] <aetherian> hehehe
#67 [01:55] <aetherian> ohohoh
#68 [01:55] <aetherian> I know what be be cooler. sundials!
#69 [01:55] <xales> LOL
#70 [01:55] <xales> I just loaded a nick color script
#71 [01:55] <xales> and it made you pink, aetherian
#72 [01:55] <aetherian> ...
#73 [01:55] <aetherian> <3
#74 [01:56] <xales> like, hot neon pink too
#75 [01:56] <aetherian> oh
#76 [01:56] <aetherian> well then
#77 [01:56] <aetherian> <333
#78 [01:56] <aetherian> it happens to me like everywhere I go. even with different usernames on places.
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#82 [02:06] <fork> mmm pork chopz
#83 [02:10] <aetherian> ooh yum
#84 [02:11] <aetherian> well, I gotta go fa now.
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#89 [02:24] <Cyberpumpkin> Um... hello!
#90 [02:25] <Solvius> hello :)
#91 [02:25] <Cyberpumpkin> Is this a good place to ask a question?
#92 [02:26] <Solvius> Yes, if they can they help :)
#93 [02:26] <Solvius> and if you build it, they come :)
#94 [02:26] <Cyberpumpkin> Okay. Well, I've been sifting through the forums, and I can't find anything helpful for this specific problem.
#95 [02:27] <Cyberpumpkin> See, I started playing on an Asus Eee 901, and it actually ran tolerably well (with fog turned all the way up)
#96 [02:28] <Cyberpumpkin> But ever since it went beta, I don't talk about frames per second. Now it's seconds per frame.
#97 [02:28] <lemon-rev> how much ram you running and operating system
#98 [02:29] <lemon-rev> whats the speed incase i cant be bothered looking up the computer 901 lol
#99 [02:29] <Cyberpumpkin> XP and... Hang on a sec
#100 [02:29] <lemon-rev> k
#101 [02:29] <Kealper> 1.6ghz single core intel atom, and unless he has changed it, it's got 1 gig of ram
#102 [02:30] <Kealper> afaik
#103 [02:30] <lemon-rev> i see thanks kealper
#104 [02:30] <lemon-rev> what you think
#105 [02:30] <lemon-rev> ?
#106 [02:30] <Cyberpumpkin> There we go. 1 mhz, 1gb
#107 [02:30] <Kealper> and netbooks are the worst idea to play minecraft on
#108 [02:30] <Cyberpumpkin> Trust me, I know. :P
#109 [02:31] <Cyberpumpkin> I have a "serious" computer too, but my wife uses it a lot for work.
#110 [02:31] <Kealper> tell her to use the netbook so you can get your minecraft fix :P
#111 [02:31] <lemon-rev> she cant use the laptop for work ?
#112 [02:32] <xales> Kealper
#113 [02:32] <xales> where have you been
#114 [02:32] <xales> :/
#115 [02:33] <Kealper> and in all seriousness: there is really nothing that can be done to make it run better on a netbook, they just don't have the power needed to run all that stuff
#116 [02:33] <Kealper> i fell alseep :/
#117 [02:33] <Cyberpumpkin> Neh. She's afraid of small electronics. She loves playing console games but she won't play handhelds. It's one of those quirky predjudices you let slide to keep the peace.
#118 [02:33] <xales> Kealper: that early in the day? >.>
#119 [02:34] <Kealper> yea...i went to sleep at like....heck i don't even know...way early
#120 [02:34] <xales> ._.
#121 [02:34] <Kealper> didn't even want to go to sleep either :/
#122 [02:34] <Cyberpumpkin> The crazy thing is that Minecraft DID work great in Alpha. I came in here just in case someone knew where I might get a pre-beta version that I can cram onto my netbook and then jam it so it won't update.
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#124 [02:35] <Kealper> well.........
#125 [02:35] <Cyberpumpkin> Sorry for the non-technical jargon.
#126 [02:35] <Kealper> what is your username?
#127 [02:35] <Cyberpumpkin> What, me?
#128 [02:35] <Kealper> yes
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#130 [02:35] <Kealper> your ingame username
#131 [02:36] <Cyberpumpkin> Cyberpumpkin. That's me pretty much everywhere.
#132 [02:36] <Kealper> !paid Cyberpumpkin
#133 [02:36] <Kealper> alright then...to query!
#134 [02:36] <Cyberpumpkin> Wa?
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#136 [02:40] <Kealper> Cyberpumpkin: i sent you a private message, switch to that :/
#137 [02:40] * Cyberpumpkin salutes
#137 [02:41] <Cyberpumpkin> Yes sir!
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#144 [03:10] <Kealper> !load mod_console
#145 [03:10] <xales> lol
#146 [03:13] <Puddles> fail ^^
#147 [03:22] <Kealper> eh?
#148 [03:23] <Kealper> (delayed response ftw)
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#150 [03:27] <Puddles> So
#151 [03:27] <Puddles> How did your epic war turn out, Napoleon?
#152 [03:27] * Kealper is confuesed
#152 [03:28] <Puddles> Oh
#153 [03:28] <Puddles> Wait
#154 [03:28] <Puddles> Nevermind, Mikau was the one awaiting the big war
#155 [03:28] <Kealper> lol
#156 [03:30] <Kealper> oh wait....crap...aubot needed to be in #minecraft for the motd...
#157 [03:31] <Kealper> i wonder if i can use that fail module to join it without using the console..
#158 [03:31] <Kealper> !load mod_bot
#159 [03:31] <Kealper> .join #minecraft
#160 [03:31] <Kealper> ok, that almost worked...
#161 [03:32] <Kealper> .join #minecraft
#162 [03:33] <Kealper> woohoo!
#163 [03:33] <Kealper> !unload mod_bot
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#165 [03:35] <Takinom> I need help
#166 [03:35] <Kealper> normally i'd say you should see a doctor about that, but i can be a substitute for that :P
#167 [03:36] <Takinom> I just got my account and managed to load myself on a multiplayer server, and so-far, I love the game...
#168 [03:36] <Takinom> but...
#169 [03:36] <Takinom> the next time i tried to get on, the screen stayed black and it didnt load
#170 [03:37] <Kealper> are you playing in the browser or downloaded client?
#171 [03:37] <Takinom> browser
#172 [03:37] <Kealper> is there a java icon in the bottom right corner of the screen?
#173 [03:37] <Kealper> it'll be white with a little blue cup or something
#174 [03:38] <Takinom> dont see it
#175 [03:38] <Takinom> you mean "screen as in monitor? or game?
#176 [03:38] <Kealper> well..i should ask, is the game open right now? because that icon only shows when the gmae is running lol
#177 [03:38] <Kealper> monitor
#178 [03:39] <Takinom> yeah, its running, or trying to
#179 [03:40] <Kealper> hmm...see where all those little icons are on your taskbar, next to the clock?
#180 [03:40] <Kealper> is there an up arrow?
#181 [03:40] <Kealper> if yes: click that, check for the white icon i was talking about
#182 [03:41] <Takinom> if no?
#183 [03:41] <Kealper> if no: crap.
#184 [03:42] <Takinom> *sigh
#185 [03:42] <Kealper> !client
#186 [03:42] <Kealper> try downloading the client and giving that a go
#187 [03:42] <Takinom> I was playing the free version, will that still work?
#188 [03:43] <Kealper> oh, free version
#189 [03:43] <Takinom> lol
#190 [03:43] <Takinom> oops
#191 [03:43] <Kealper> no, that has no downloadable client
#192 [03:43] <Kealper> well...this makes debugging harder...
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#194 [03:44] <Kealper> have you changed anything since it was still working?
#195 [03:44] <Takinom> no. all i did was go back one and change servers
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#197 [03:45] <Takinom> but no software
#198 [03:45] <Kealper> have you restarted your computer since then?
#199 [03:45] <Takinom> no
#200 [03:45] <Takinom> should I?
#201 [03:45] <Kealper> try doing that, something might be sucking up graphics ram
#202 [03:46] <Takinom> ok. see ya back here in 5 if it doesnt work. if i dont show up, then it worked
#203 [03:46] <Takinom> wish me luck
#204 [03:46] <Kealper> good luck lol
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#210 [04:02] <castleberry> can somebody help pleas
#211 [04:02] <Puddles> with what?
#212 [04:02] <castleberry> i installed a textur pack
#213 [04:02] <Puddles> ...go on?
#214 [04:03] <castleberry> or more i wanteed to but it whent wrong and now i cant start mine craft
#215 [04:03] <Puddles> what exactly went wrong?
#216 [04:03] <castleberry> it just shows a black screen
#217 [04:03] <Kealper> Misa's Pack?
#218 [04:03] <Puddles> And did you close it?
#219 [04:03] <castleberry> well i patche it and then niothing
#220 [04:03] <castleberry> yes
#221 [04:03] <Kealper> that doens't work
#222 [04:03] <Kealper> doesn't*
#223 [04:04] <Puddles> yeah, Misa's Pack is buggy
#224 [04:04] <Kealper> go in to %appdata%\.minecraft\bin and delete the file called version
#225 [04:04] <Puddles> you'll have to remove it by hand
#226 [04:04] <Kealper> run the game again
#227 [04:05] <castleberry> ok
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#229 [04:06] <castleberry> works again thanks Kealper
#230 [04:07] <castleberry> and puddles
#231 [04:07] <Kealper> np
#232 [04:07] <Puddles> more Kealper ^^
#233 [04:14] <lemon-rev> what you do with long grass ?
#234 [04:14] <Kealper> wait till it grows into wheat? lol
#235 [04:14] <lemon-rev> oh
#236 [04:14] <lemon-rev> takes forever :)
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#246 [05:24] <Livity> Hello again.
#247 [05:24] <Livity> I have a problem again. If someone is here who could help?
#248 [05:27] <Puddles> Shoot
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#250 [05:33] <Puddles> what problem?
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#253 [05:38] <mib_kv6fl0> Hello is there anyone there.?
#254 [05:39] <Kealper> maybe
#255 [05:39] <Kealper> what sort of help did you require?
#256 [05:40] <mib_kv6fl0> Hai ^.^ Do u know whats going on with some accounts.. im 100% sure im typing in my info right but it saying its wrong and when i try and recover it via email it says couldnt find that user?
#257 [05:40] <mib_kv6fl0> has there been a number of accounts hacked at all..
#258 [05:40] <Kealper> as far as i know, there have been no mass-hackin of accounts..
#259 [05:41] <Kealper> but there have been issues with people recovering their info
#260 [05:41] <mib_kv6fl0> i have sent a email to both support@mojang.com and Notch along with payment info/screen shots.. But haven't got a answer yet..
#261 [05:41] <mib_kv6fl0> Hmm
#262 [05:42] <mib_kv6fl0> Just a bit funny cus my brothers account is tell him the same thing..
#263 [05:42] <Kealper> oh?
#264 [05:42] <mib_kv6fl0> Yeah :/
#265 [05:42] <Kealper> you both paid for the game, right?
#266 [05:42] <mib_kv6fl0> Yep
#267 [05:43] <Kealper> what is your ingame username?
#268 [05:43] <mib_kv6fl0> Josh687
#269 [05:43] <Kealper> !paid Josh687
#270 [05:43] <mib_kv6fl0> Yep
#271 [05:43] <Kealper> hmm....
#272 [05:43] <mib_kv6fl0> back on ict 29th
#273 [05:43] <mib_kv6fl0> oct**
#274 [05:43] <Kealper> and it just randomly would not let you log in recently?
#275 [05:44] <mib_kv6fl0> Yeah
#276 [05:44] <Kealper> have you used any mods recently?
#277 [05:44] <mib_kv6fl0> Nope
#278 [05:44] <mib_kv6fl0> Also i put a thread up... And someone else has my problem.
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#280 [05:45] <akiwiguy> !paid akiwiguy
#281 [05:46] <Kealper> do both you and your friend play on the same computer?
#282 [05:46] <Kealper> wait
#283 [05:46] <Kealper> replace friend with brother lol
#284 [05:46] <mib_kv6fl0> Lol k
#285 [05:46] <mib_kv6fl0> Nah he plays downstairs
#286 [05:46] <mib_kv6fl0> on the laptop
#287 [05:47] <mib_kv6fl0> and i don't think i have a virus on this pc just got it 1 week ago
#288 [05:47] <Kealper> and do you both use the website or the client?
#289 [05:47] <mib_kv6fl0> Client
#290 [05:47] <Kealper> can you log in to the website file?
#291 [05:47] <Kealper> fine*
#292 [05:47] <mib_kv6fl0> Nope
#293 [05:47] <Kealper> stupid 6am -.-
#294 [05:47] <Kealper> well..this is weird
#295 [05:47] <mib_kv6fl0> Yeah :/
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#297 [05:48] <xskillzx> hi
#298 [05:48] <Kealper> hi
#299 [05:48] <Kealper> mib_kv6fl0: does it just not send the password change email?
#300 [05:49] <mib_kv6fl0> Yeah..
#301 [05:49] <mib_kv6fl0> It seems like someone has changed the email too
#302 [05:50] <Kealper> only thing i can say is just send the email with the account name and proof of purchase and wait for a reply :/
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#304 [05:51] <mib_kv6fl0> Yeah... Just have to wait. U wouldn't happen to know how long it takes to get a repley
#305 [05:52] <Kealper> usually takes around a day or two, but it could get overlooked, they get tons of email per day
#306 [05:52] <Iguana> GUN ON GUN YA DONE
#307 [05:52] <Kealper> Iguana: wat?
#308 [05:52] <mib_kv6fl0> Fair enough..
#309 [05:52] <Iguana> it's from a video
#310 [05:52] <Kealper> oh lol
#311 [05:52] <mib_kv6fl0> Well thanks for your help. Have a nice day ^.^
#312 [05:52] <Iguana> it's from some guy who plays call of duty
#313 [05:53] <Iguana> and he gets pissed off from attachments and killstreaks, so he just decides to play the "barebones" playlist with none of that bull
#314 [05:53] <Kealper> mib_kv6fl0: sorry i could not help you more lol
#315 [05:53] <Iguana> and he calls it "GUN ON GUN, YA DONE"
#316 [05:53] <mib_kv6fl0> All good
#317 [05:53] <Kealper> lol
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#320 [06:07] <N3RF> Hi
#321 [06:07] <N3RF> Got some probs with minecraft.
#322 [06:07] <Kealper> what problem?
#323 [06:08] <N3RF> when i go in my launcher it wont log in
#324 [06:08] <N3RF> and in multiplayer i cant connect anything
#325 [06:08] <Kealper> did you buy the game?
#326 [06:08] <N3RF> Yes
#327 [06:08] <N3RF> 3 days ago
#328 [06:08] <Kealper> is it saying User not premium or something like that?
#329 [06:08] <N3RF> No
#330 [06:09] <N3RF> When i log in the Launcher it makes wierd letters and numbers and i can choose play offline or try again
#331 [06:09] <Kealper> can you access minecraft.net from a browser?
#332 [06:10] <N3RF> Ye
#333 [06:10] <Kealper> can you play minecraft in the browser?
#334 [06:10] <N3RF> Only single player
#335 [06:10] <Kealper> hmm....
#336 [06:10] <N3RF> me and my friend bought it together and he got the same problems
#337 [06:11] <Kealper> i assume you two are not running any mods?
#338 [06:11] <N3RF> no
#339 [06:11] <N3RF> we just wanna make our own server and play :P
#340 [06:11] <Kealper> do you have any antivirus or firewall software? (not surewhy that would matter, but meh)
#341 [06:11] <N3RF> got some free AVG
#342 [06:12] <Kealper> for the sake of trying....disable that and try again
#343 [06:12] <Kealper> and what browser do you use?
#344 [06:12] <N3RF> 2 sek
#345 [06:12] <N3RF> Firefox
#346 [06:12] <Kealper> hmm...what's your ingame account name?
#347 [06:12] <N3RF> N3RF
#348 [06:12] <Kealper> !paid N3RF
#349 [06:12] <Kealper> whoops
#350 [06:12] <Kealper> !paid N3RF
#351 [06:13] <Kealper> hmmm....
#352 [06:13] <Kealper> open up Internet Explorer and go to this url: http://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=N3RF
#353 [06:14] <N3RF> OK
#354 [06:14] <N3RF> "true"
#355 [06:14] <Kealper> HMMM......
#356 [06:14] <zz> Make a screen grab of these "wierd letters and numbers"?
#357 [06:15] <N3RF> its only sometimes now it says
#358 [06:15] <N3RF> java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 2
#359 [06:15] <Kealper> wait....
#360 [06:16] <Kealper> when does it get that? when you try to log in or when you try to join a server?
#361 [06:16] <N3RF> log in
#362 [06:16] <Kealper> have you ever played minecraft before on that computer?
#363 [06:16] <N3RF> Classic yes
#364 [06:17] <N3RF> http://tinypic.com/r/23m4jz7/7
#365 [06:17] <Kealper> !client
#366 [06:17] <Kealper> try redownloading the client....i guess....
#367 [06:17] <zz> Maybe try updating java
#368 [06:18] <Kealper> woh.....uhh
#369 [06:18] <Kealper> what OS are you on? and what version of java do you have installed?
#370 [06:18] <N3RF> the same, just more wierd letters
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#372 [06:18] <N3RF> Windows
#373 [06:19] <N3RF> I can update Java 2 sec
#374 [06:20] <Anax> Im on win7 and ever since like 3 months ago (a patch) I can't run minecraft after I've entered the world. It just freezes up every 5 seconds for like 10 seconds until it crashes
#375 [06:21] <N3RF> Now when i download Java it says: Unable to download http://javadl-esd.sun.com/update/1.6.0/1.6.0_23_b70.xml for installation
#376 [06:21] <Kealper> Anax: you've updated java, graphics drivers, and are sure you have enough ram?
#377 [06:22] <N3RF> I got java 6 update 18
#378 [06:22] <Kealper> try reupdating java, that mirror does not have that file :/
#379 [06:22] <Anax> yea 4gigs, running a 260gtx from nvidia with latest drivers ill retry java, but im already using java to get into this irc
#380 [06:22] <Anax> well i reformatted my computer recently, i had the same problem before and still the same after
#381 [06:23] <Kealper> Anax: mibbit is AJAX, not Java
#382 [06:26] <N3RF> come on Java, download faster :s
#383 [06:27] <Anax> is there a way to automatically update it im on jre6 thats all I know atm, cant find executeable
#384 [06:29] <Anax> yea, java 6 update 23
#385 [06:29] <N3RF> i cant download that
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#387 [06:35] <ConMan8> !check 67.214.22.80:25565
#388 [06:36] <N3RF> !check 80.162.29.165:25565
#389 [06:36] <nipper> !check 184.82.14.122
#390 [06:37] <N3RF> !check 80.162.29.165
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#392 [06:38] <N3RF> lol, cant install java with firefox but works in explorer :P
#393 [06:39] <N3RF> an by the way i can play minecraft just fine on my laptop, but it laggs as hel
#394 [06:39] <N3RF> hell*
#395 [06:39] <Solvius> can I autosave the MP so the map get saved every hour or so ?
#396 [06:40] <Puddles> if you turned auto-save on in the server.properties file, then it's already doing that for you
#397 [06:40] <Solvius> can I change the time ?
#398 [06:41] <Puddles> not that I would know of
#399 [06:41] <Solvius> ok, thnx
#400 [06:45] <N3RF> erh, can u enter minecraft.net?
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#402 [06:47] <N3RF> When i go offline in my launcher and connects to the server i just made (not singleplayer) it says FileNotFoundException: http://www.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Player&sessionId and some more i cant see
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#408 [07:05] <mbentley> haha forgot to disable !seen on this channel when i added it
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#410 [07:11] <ConMan8> !seen
#411 [07:11] <ConMan8> -AuBot- I have not seen do anything yet.
#412 [07:12] <ConMan8> Hmm
#413 [07:12] <ConMan8> !seen ConMan8
#414 [07:12] <crickets> Look in a mirror, ConMan8.
#415 [07:12] <ConMan8> damnit nipper and crickets
#416 [07:14] <Livity> Anyone know why my minecraft goes black?
#417 [07:14] <Livity> Im hosting server
#418 [07:14] <Livity> and only there
#419 [07:14] <mbentley> what do you mean by 'goes black'?
#420 [07:15] <mbentley> in game?
#421 [07:15] <mbentley> after loggin in?
#422 [07:15] <mbentley> *logging
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#425 [07:28] <Livity> ingame
#426 [07:29] <Livity> it goes randomly black
#427 [07:29] <Livity> and I have to open game again
#428 [07:30] <mbentley> ah ok. i get the same thing on my system. it just happens randomly after playing for a while
#429 [07:30] <mbentley> at the moment, there doesn't seem to be a fix
#430 [07:31] <mbentley> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/bwod_black_window_of_death
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#432 [07:49] <Livity> Is it normal that diamond pick is never gona break
#433 [07:49] <Livity> ?
#434 [07:50] <mbentley> at the moment, the tools don't seem to ever break
#435 [07:50] <mbentley> it looked like it was going to be implemented but it hasn't worked correctly
#436 [07:50] <mbentley> at least not for me
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#440 [08:02] <ConMan8> Kealper, this chat isn't moderated
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#443 [08:06] <mbentley> ?
#444 [08:06] <ConMan8> AuBot says it is
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#447 [08:08] <mbentley> meh, aubot is a liar ;)
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#451 [08:27] <BarryCarlyon> !check 74.88.227.10:50500
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#458 [09:24] <N3RF> Kealper u there?
#459 [09:25] <N3RF> any1?
#460 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#461 [09:28] <N3RF> Anyone knows why my minecraft aint working?
#462 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me more information?
#463 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> How isn't it working?
#464 [09:29] <N3RF> I cant log in on the Launcher
#465 [09:29] <N3RF> And i cant play multiplayer
#466 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> Are you getting any errors?
#467 [09:29] <N3RF> Yep
#468 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> What is the error?
#469 [09:29] <N3RF> When i log in it says something with Java or makes a bunch of wierd letters
#470 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#471 [09:30] <N3RF> But on my laptop it works fine but it laggs as hell
#472 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Is this something you can screenshot, or pastebin.com?
#473 [09:30] <N3RF> Sure
#474 [09:31] <N3RF> http://tinypic.com/r/wrjps4/7
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#476 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> !roll 1d15
#477 [09:32] * crickets --> "GreyVulpine rolls 1d15 and gets 12."
#477 [09:32] <N3RF> Oo?
#478 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, ignore that
#479 [09:32] <N3RF> xD
#480 [09:32] <N3RF> Any suggestion?
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#482 [09:32] <mbentley> how dare you
#483 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> That's.. interesting
#484 [09:33] <N3RF> Sure thing
#485 [09:33] <N3RF> i sent 3 mails to notch/mojang
#486 [09:33] <ConMan8> crickets, turn that off or I'll abuse it
#487 [09:33] <ConMan8> with a 1000000000d1
#488 [09:33] * crickets chirp
#488 [09:33] <mbentley> N3RF: that is odd
#489 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> That's supposed to say, "Login once to play online"
#490 [09:34] <ssen> crickets, you scared me there.
#491 [09:34] <mbentley> i'd suggest going to start > type in '%appdata%\.minecraft' (without the quotes)
#492 [09:34] <mbentley> delete the 'bin' directory
#493 [09:34] <mbentley> relaunch minecraft
#494 [09:34] <mbentley> or redownload the client .exe if you haven't already
#495 [09:34] <N3RF> Some times it says Java.something.something
#496 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> I'd also look into reinstalling java if it continues
#497 [09:35] <mbentley> also, you might want to see what verison of java you are running
#498 [09:35] <N3RF> allready done
#499 [09:35] <N3RF> try the bin thing
#500 [09:36] <N3RF> Uuh interresting
#501 [09:36] <N3RF> now this comes up http://tinypic.com/r/308fvp5/7
#502 [09:37] <mbentley> start > cmd then in the command prompt window, type 'java -version' to make sure y
#503 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Did you get minecraft.exe fr..
#504 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> bah
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#506 [09:37] <N3RF> what u say? :P
#507 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Did you get minecraft.exe from the website?
#508 [09:37] <mbentley> ...make sure you have the latest java
#509 [09:37] <N3RF> Ye
#510 [09:37] <N3RF> I have
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#512 [09:38] <N3RF> Java 6 Update 23
#513 [09:42] <N3RF> What to do? :D
#514 [09:43] <mbentley> have you already redownloaded the client?
#515 [09:43] <mbentley> !client
#516 [09:43] <N3RF> Just did - the same
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#518 [09:46] * mbentley googles
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#520 [09:48] <N3RF> :3
#521 [09:49] <mbentley> hmm... not really coming up with much
#522 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> Not seeing anything either
#523 [09:50] <mbentley> found some other people with the error but not solution
#524 [09:50] <N3RF> :(
#525 [09:52] <PigHunter1> Hi i need help.. i cant rum minecraft i get a error. call "java.lang.ArrayindexOutOfBoundsException: 2 " help me plzz
#526 [09:53] <mbentley> well, that is 2...
#527 [09:53] <mbentley> let me try to delete my .minecraft directory to see if i can reproduce it...
#528 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> PigHunter1 - Where doy ou get that?
#529 [09:53] <PigHunter1> launcher
#530 [09:54] <mbentley> N3RF: have you ever played before?
#531 [09:54] <N3RF> Now we are 2, the end is near, make the fear turn on in os all! xD
#532 [09:54] <N3RF> Yes
#533 [09:55] <N3RF> But it works fine on my laptop..
#534 [09:55] <PigHunter1> me2
#535 [09:55] <mbentley> what files & directories do you have in the %appdata%\.minecraft directory
#536 [09:56] <N3RF> Resources saves and texturepacks - and text file options
#537 [09:56] <mbentley> i find it interesting that the 'play offline' options is grayed out
#538 [09:56] <mbentley> do you have a 'lastlogin' file?
#539 [09:56] <N3RF> It wasnt before i deleted bin
#540 [09:56] <N3RF> Not in .minecraft
#541 [09:57] <mbentley> i just deleted mine and i was able to login... but i am on winxp right now
#542 [09:57] <mbentley> let me try in my win7 x64 vm...
#543 [09:57] <N3RF> i got vista
#544 [09:57] <PigHunter1> I got Win 7 pro
#545 [09:59] <mbentley> hmm, still can't reproduce it
#546 [09:59] <PigHunter1> can u guys help ?
#547 [09:59] <mbentley> PigHunter1: trying to figure out why it is doing it
#548 [09:59] <PigHunter1> Ok Ok
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#550 [10:00] <N3RF> maybe you know why notch ain't answering?
#551 [10:00] <N3RF> !client
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#553 [10:00] <mbentley> you typically won't get an answer from him most of the time from what i have seen
#554 [10:00] <mbentley> it isn't like he is sitting at his computer with 0 emails in his inbox waiting on stuff to come in
#555 [10:01] <N3RF> :-( Mojang isnt answering too
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#557 [10:01] <mbentley> looking through the bug tracker...
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#559 [10:02] <N3RF> I can log in, in the browser
#560 [10:02] <N3RF> But not connect to any multiplayer server
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#563 [10:03] <mbentley> N3RF: try home.mbentley.net:12345
#564 [10:04] <N3RF> OK
#565 [10:04] <N3RF> Connection Lost: FoundException %link here%
#566 [10:04] <N3RF> there is a link in %link here% :P
#567 [10:05] <mbentley> java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 71 on the console..
#568 [10:05] <N3RF> wut
#569 [10:05] <N3RF> xD
#570 [10:06] <mbentley> can you try again?
#571 [10:06] <N3RF> Ye
#572 [10:06] <N3RF> Same
#573 [10:06] <mbentley> that time i only see a 'lost connection'
#574 [10:06] <N3RF> Oo
#575 [10:07] <mbentley> 2011-01-11 10:07:38 [INFO] /93.162.97.x:50088 lost connection
#576 [10:08] <N3RF> Thats Pighunter i think
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#578 [10:08] <mbentley> well you have the same error, just with your ip
#579 [10:08] <PigHunter1> i try to
#580 [10:08] <N3RF> Oo
#581 [10:09] <mbentley> don't really understand what the problem is...
#582 [10:09] <PigHunter1> what do we do
#583 [10:10] <N3RF> :(
#584 [10:10] <PigHunter1> :(
#585 [10:10] <mbentley> are you running 32 bit or 64 bit windows?
#586 [10:11] <N3RF> eeeeeh
#587 [10:11] <N3RF> idk
#588 [10:11] <mbentley> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827218
#589 [10:12] <PigHunter1> 32 bit
#590 [10:12] <N3RF> 32
#591 [10:12] <mbentley> just for kicks, can you two post the output of 'java -version' to pastebin.com ?
#592 [10:12] <mbentley> start > type in 'cmd'
#593 [10:13] <mbentley> type 'java -version' at the command prompt
#594 [10:13] <PigHunter1> home.mbentley.net:12345
#595 [10:13] <N3RF> 1.6.0_23
#596 [10:13] <mbentley> no, the entire output
#597 [10:13] <mbentley> to pastebin.com
#598 [10:14] <PigHunter1> java version "1.6.0_23"
#599 [10:14] <mbentley> ...
#600 [10:14] <N3RF> Done
#601 [10:14] <N3RF> http://pastebin.com/eTknRmLN
#602 [10:15] <PigHunter1> http://pastebin.com/TUMJAvzS
#603 [10:17] <mbentley> darn, was hoping for something strange
#604 [10:18] <N3RF> :(
#605 [10:18] <PigHunter1> :(
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#607 [10:20] <Silvertejpen> Hello guys
#608 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#609 [10:20] <Silvertejpen> i need some help
#610 [10:20] <Silvertejpen> :D
#611 [10:21] <Silvertejpen> Someone want to help me ?
#612 [10:21] <mbentley> only if you ask a question :)
#613 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell us your problem?
#614 [10:21] <mbentley> sorry N3RF & PigHunter1, i am still looking...
#615 [10:22] <PigHunter1> ok ok
#616 [10:22] <N3RF> cute smiley!! :)
#617 [10:22] <Silvertejpen> The problem is , that my friend hosted a server at our LAN couple of days ago , and now we want to play , but i can connect to hes ip , it just says "connecting"
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#619 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Silvertejpen - How are you connecting, what IP?
#620 [10:23] <mbentley> sounds like he isn't giving out his correct ip
#621 [10:23] <Silvertejpen> Multiplayer , 192.168.1.80
#622 [10:23] <mbentley> that is a local ip address
#623 [10:23] <N3RF> Uh, found a spider spawner xD
#624 [10:23] <Silvertejpen> oh it is ? :P
#625 [10:23] <mbentley> are you guys still on the same local network?
#626 [10:24] <Silvertejpen> nope we aint
#627 [10:24] <mbentley> then that is the problem
#628 [10:24] <mbentley> you need his wan ip
#629 [10:24] <Silvertejpen> but thats not the ip from the lan
#630 [10:24] <mbentley> 192.168.x.x = local
#631 [10:24] <Silvertejpen> mbentley private chat? so we dont disturb others ? ;O
#632 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to
#633 [10:24] <mbentley> it's a help channel...
#634 [10:24] <mbentley> it's ok
#635 [10:24] <Silvertejpen> ok :D
#636 [10:24] <N3RF> we look and learn! :D
#637 [10:24] <Silvertejpen> how to get the right ip ?
#638 [10:24] <Silvertejpen> .D
#639 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> whatismyip.com
#640 [10:24] <mbentley> he needs to give you his external ip address
#641 [10:25] <mbentley> like GreyVulpine said, he can find his wan ip there
#642 [10:25] <Silvertejpen> okay , i bougt this game couple of days ago :D
#643 [10:25] <N3RF> im scared of the spiders :(
#644 [10:25] <Silvertejpen> Just cause a saw a Minecraft video on youtube :D
#645 [10:25] <mbentley> as you should be N3RF
#646 [10:28] <Silvertejpen> [16:27:34] Jont3||Lundmark^^: 83.226.133.72
#647 [10:28] <Silvertejpen> 83.226.133.72 and it dosent work :(
#648 [10:29] <mbentley> does he have the proper port forwarding set up?
#649 [10:29] <Silvertejpen> i doubt that he got.
#650 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> He's going to need to port forward to be able to host a server
#651 [10:30] <Silvertejpen> okey ??
#652 [10:30] <Silvertejpen> im like "??" :D
#653 [10:30] <N3RF> What if you got a modem?
#654 [10:31] <Silvertejpen> Witch server files should i download on minecraft.net , cause my friend is nuub : P
#655 [10:31] <mbentley> have him check this out >> http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#656 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> !server
#657 [10:32] <Silvertejpen> just run is and he could connect?
#658 [10:33] <Silvertejpen> WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#659 [10:33] <mbentley> reading the FAQ is a good idea
#660 [10:33] <Silvertejpen> :]
#661 [10:34] <mbentley> especially if you have never hosted a server before
#662 [10:37] <Livity> Doesn't nether work in multiplayer server?
#663 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Not the portal, no
#664 [10:38] <Livity> cant I activate it anyway?
#665 [10:39] <N3RF> any answers for me and pighunter? :3
#666 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> No
#667 [10:39] <mbentley> Livity: you can create a portal, they don't work. you can create a SMP 'nether' world but not both on the same map
#668 [10:40] <mbentley> N3RF: sorry, out of ideas and i can't find anything else at the moment about the error you are getting
#669 [10:40] <mbentley> sounds silly but have you restarted your computer?
#670 [10:40] <N3RF> me? :P
#671 [10:41] <mbentley> yeah
#672 [10:41] <N3RF> havent tried
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#674 [10:43] <hilli> Someone from germany here?
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#676 [11:02] <Livity> Can I delete something with admin char on my server?
#677 [11:02] <Livity> somekind of commands?
#678 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> delete what?
#679 [11:05] <Livity> I did a lava fall in normal world
#680 [11:05] <Livity> I took the buckets
#681 [11:05] <Livity> back the lava
#682 [11:05] <Livity> but its still there
#683 [11:05] <Livity> cant delete it
#684 [11:05] <Livity> its kinda infinite lava
#685 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> Try a map editor?
#686 [11:07] <Livity> I don't know that is :P
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#688 [11:10] <Linkshot> You could built a dirt pillar to get to the top of your lavafall and bucket the source block.
#689 [11:10] <Linkshot> Oh, you got rid of the source already.
#690 [11:10] <mbentley> put dirt in place of the lava
#691 [11:10] <Linkshot> Yes, lava is glitchy and will take a few minutes to disappear on its o-- yeah that.
#692 [11:11] <mbentley> when done, remove the dirt
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#697 [11:28] <Mercurial> Hallo. I am having trouble connecting to any multiplayer servers.
#698 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem?
#699 [11:31] <Mercurial> Whenever I try to connect to any server, and I've tried about ten different ones, I get 'outdated client' error, and I've only just updated my MC client.
#700 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> Did you update the server?
#701 [11:31] <Mercurial> I don't know what you mean.
#702 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> Your server running the latesT?
#703 [11:32] <Mercurial> Not my server. I'm trying to connect to an outside one. One of the reddit multiplayer ones.
#704 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> Then most likely it hasn't been updated
#705 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> Try greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#706 [11:33] <Mercurial> Says logging in, they says disconnected by server, outdated client. :\
#707 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. yeah, your client's not up to date then
#708 [11:33] <Mercurial> I updated it less than ten minutes ago...
#709 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> Try deleting the /.minecraft/bin folder and relaunch the client
#710 [11:34] <Mercurial> Do texture packs have any influence on connecting to MP servers?
#711 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> They shouldn't...
#712 [11:35] <Mercurial> What about mods, AO etc?
#713 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Hey, are you in?
#714 [11:37] <Mercurial> Yep.
#715 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> What did you do?
#716 [11:37] <Mercurial> Deleted the .bin folder as you suggested.
#717 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, guess there was something in there, a corrupt file, a bad mod, or something that screwed with the version check
#718 [11:38] <Mercurial> Hmm. I wasn't aware mods affected MP. It was only ambient occlusion I was playing with. :\
#719 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Some can.
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#721 [11:39] <Mercurial> Ahh well. Thank you for your help - much appreciated. :)
#722 [11:39] * GreyVulpine nods
#722 [11:43] <Mercurial> Has Notch released a new patch in literally the last hour or so? 'Cause the mod I used earlier worked fine, and now it does not.
#723 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> I don't believe so. The next planned update is for Friday.
#724 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> also, deleting /bin deletes any mods.
#725 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> It forces minecraft to redownload the original files
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#727 [11:44] <Mercurial> I know, but I just tried to reinstall it to find out if that was what was causing the problem with the MP connection, and this time it won't install.
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#729 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I'm sorry, I haven't used AO at all.
#730 [11:45] <Mercurial> Nah it's fine, don't worry. It's just really weird it worked earlier, and now will not.
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#734 [11:55] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: According to WoN, the next update it Thursday, not Friday, FYI.
#735 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Ah, sorry. Facebook minecraft page said friday
#736 [11:57] <DopeGhoti> My FB account is increasingly disused.
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#738 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> I only have it to follow friends, not really into that social thing-a-ma-jig that all these youngin's are so enthused about
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#740 [12:02] * DopeGhoti nods
#740 [12:03] <KillSpammer> :S
#741 [12:03] <mbentley> i love facebook so i can play farmville!
#742 [12:03] <mbentley> </sarcasm>
#743 [12:03] * GreyVulpine stabs mbentley
#743 [12:03] <mbentley> :)
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#748 [12:11] <KillSpammer> OMFG FARMVILLE
#749 [12:11] <KillSpammer> I LUV THAT
#750 [12:11] <KillSpammer> I hacked it lol
#751 [12:12] <KillSpammer> People on my friends are like
#752 [12:12] <KillSpammer> How did you get so many points :S
#753 [12:12] <KillSpammer> I only use facebook to contact people when im advertising or something lol
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#756 [12:16] <ssen> test
#757 [12:17] <genshou> I get so many highlights while I'm sleeping :I
#758 [12:17] <genshou> I should use a nick nobody ever shortens to "gen"
#759 [12:18] * genshou shrugs and prepares for free nomnoms
#759 [12:28] <DopeGhoti> genshou: or you should only highlight your actual nick?
#760 [12:28] <genshou> Too many people refer to me by "nicknames of my nickname"
#761 [12:29] <genshou> gen, gengen, genny, gennie, shoushou...
#762 [12:29] <genshou> xD
#763 [12:29] <genshou> one of the opers on another network is often referred to as "TV" and he hates when he gets highlighted by someone actually talking about television xD
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#769 [13:16] <Kaito> hey, GreyVulpine, do you remember me from about...14 hours ago?
#770 [13:16] <Kaito> i was having problems with a black screen
#771 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> "Are you sure it's turned on?"
#772 [13:17] <Kaito> *minecraft black screen
#773 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> "Have you planted a torch?"
#774 [13:18] * Kaito sighs
#774 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> sorry, I'm not being terribly helpful
#775 [13:18] <Kaito> i know
#776 [13:18] <Kaito> :P
#777 [13:18] <Kaito> the problem is, it's black screening after a login
#778 [13:18] <Kaito> we tried reinstalling java, deleting the /bin folder, reinstalling minecraft (by deleting .minecraft and using the .exe again)
#779 [13:18] <Kaito> and several other things, and nothing
#780 [13:21] <mbentley> tried updating video drivers?
#781 [13:21] <Kaito> tried it
#782 [13:21] <Kaito> didnt work
#783 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Oh, hey Kaito, you were the one with the friend?
#784 [13:21] <Kaito> yes
#785 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Still doesn't work?
#786 [13:22] <Kaito> Well, we tried disabling Aero, didn't fix it
#787 [13:22] <Kaito> And i cant remember the other thing you suggested...It had something to do with java
#788 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> It had to do with java's security and activex
#789 [13:23] <Kaito> ah, yes
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#791 [13:24] <Kaito> i could hear his mom over the phone yelling at him becuase he changed the theme
#792 [13:25] <Kaito> why are the activeX things disabled by default?
#793 [13:25] <Kaito> *activeX security options
#794 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Activex can be a security hole
#795 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Hooks into the OS
#796 [13:25] <lukegb> *is a
#797 [13:26] <Kaito> so, by enabling this, even if he's using the executable version, could fix the problem?
#798 [13:27] <N3RF> Some1 found a solution for me?
#799 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Maybe, kait
#800 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> o
#801 [13:29] <Kaito> What else should I try if it /doesn't/ work?
#802 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Try a good copy of /bin and /resources from a computer that works
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#804 [13:30] <Kaito> alright. I'll talk to him now, and try those
#805 [13:30] <Kaito> thank you
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#807 [13:33] <matt0734> hello
#808 [13:33] <matt0734> ?
#809 [13:33] <mbentley> hello?
#810 [13:33] <matt0734> i really need hel :(
#811 [13:33] <Kaito> whats up?
#812 [13:33] <KillSpammer> Hm...
#813 [13:34] <matt0734> i made the portal from the holiday special edition and the i was in the new world then i went out again, but then it happend my minecraft freezed and now every time i try enter it again i go 1-6 blocks and then it freezes again (
#814 [13:35] <KillSpammer> holiday special edition?
#815 [13:35] <KillSpammer> You mean the halloween update?
#816 [13:35] <N3RF> think the halloween update
#817 [13:35] <N3RF> :D
#818 [13:35] <matt0734> yeah :D
#819 [13:35] <KillSpammer> Mwhhaa
#820 [13:35] <KillSpammer> You neva ninja me
#821 [13:36] <N3RF> :O
#822 [13:36] <KillSpammer> matt0734, are you on a mac?
#823 [13:36] <matt0734> how can i fix it ?
#824 [13:36] <N3RF> WOW! Thats cute! :D :O:O
#825 [13:36] <matt0734> no, Win PC Vista 32bit Home Premium
#826 [13:36] <KillSpammer> matt0734, do you get any error logs?
#827 [13:36] <KillSpammer> Or errors?
#828 [13:36] <matt0734> yes....
#829 [13:36] <KillSpammer> Paste them here: pastebin.com
#830 [13:36] <matt0734> error logs :'(
#831 [13:36] <KillSpammer> And giveme the link
#832 [13:37] <KillSpammer> Just the one you get when it happens please.
#833 [13:37] <matt0734> the world is on 5.49mb after 2days playing :(
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#835 [13:37] <KillSpammer> Error log?
#836 [13:38] <matt0734> http://pastebin.com/GS3Va3D9 :D
#837 [13:38] <N3RF> Someone got a solution on how to fix java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 2?
#838 [13:38] <matt0734> i turned my AV of but still :(
#839 [13:39] <KillSpammer> Ok matt0734
#840 [13:39] <KillSpammer> Have you got any mods installed?
#841 [13:39] <matt0734> yeahh
#842 [13:39] <matt0734> no
#843 [13:39] <KillSpammer> Hmm
#844 [13:39] <KillSpammer> Theres apparently a file missing from the actual game :S
#845 [13:39] <KillSpammer> Ok
#846 [13:39] <KillSpammer> Know how to get into appdata?
#847 [13:39] <matt0734> i had but i reinstalled the hole game but i recovered the save foldedr :(
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#849 [13:39] <KillSpammer> Oh thats what i was gonna tell you to do :S
#850 [13:40] <matt0734> yes, start then run type %appdata% and then you are there :D
#851 [13:40] <KillSpammer> So what exactly did you do to do this?
#852 [13:40] <matt0734> to do what?
#853 [13:40] <KillSpammer> To get the problem.
#854 [13:41] <matt0734> i dont know, ot waht do you mean?
#855 [13:41] <matt0734> 'what
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#857 [13:41] <N3RF> Someone know why i can play minecraft fine on my laptop (but it laggs as hell) but not on this?
#858 [13:41] <KillSpammer> What were you doing when this happened
#859 [13:41] <KillSpammer> Not on what?
#860 [13:41] <Mjiig> N3RF: what's this
#861 [13:41] <matt0734> i got out of the portal :D
#862 [13:41] <KillSpammer> So what?
#863 [13:41] <KillSpammer> You entered the nether
#864 [13:41] <KillSpammer> Then went back
#865 [13:41] <matt0734> yeahh
#866 [13:41] <N3RF> Mjjig: what? xD
#867 [13:41] <KillSpammer> And crash?
#868 [13:42] <matt0734> yeah like you said :(
#869 [13:42] <KillSpammer> Its a map problem i believe
#870 [13:42] <Mjiig> you said "not on this" i'm asking what this refers to :)
#871 [13:42] <matt0734> but how can i fix?
#872 [13:42] <N3RF> Oh, this computer im sitting on now - my "main" :P
#873 [13:42] <KillSpammer> N3RF, XD is not an expresion
#874 [13:42] <Utoxin> It's the sideways version of x.x
#875 [13:43] <KillSpammer> matt0734, you cannot unless you are smart enough and have enough time to go through each file and repair it :)
#876 [13:43] <KillSpammer> matt0734, try go through a portal after generating a new map
#877 [13:43] <Mjiig> N3RF: what errors do you get when you try and run it? (also what os?)
#878 [13:43] <matt0734> haha, thats like not easy, i first need all resources again, and i have time to repai :P
#879 [13:44] <N3RF> Windows Vista 32-bit - When i use the Launcher i cant log in
#880 [13:44] <KillSpammer> Or matt0734 do you have a backup of that map?
#881 [13:44] <N3RF> and in browser i can only play single player
#882 [13:44] <Mjiig> so the launcher opens fine?
#883 [13:44] <N3RF> It opens fine but can't log in
#884 [13:44] <matt0734> a kind of :D
#885 [13:44] <KillSpammer> If you don generate a new map and try do the same thing as you did to get the crash
#886 [13:44] <N3RF> it says java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 2
#887 [13:44] <KillSpammer> Map corruption happens
#888 [13:44] <KillSpammer> Best to just backup everynow and then
#889 [13:45] <N3RF> or just makes a bunch of signs and letters
#890 [13:45] <matt0734> i try now :D
#891 [13:45] <Mjiig> N3RF: have you logged in on this computer before?
#892 [13:46] <N3RF> I had some crack version a while ago, and some MCEdit
#893 [13:46] <Mjiig> *tuts* but not the proper version?
#894 [13:46] <N3RF> i boughy it 3-4 days ago
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#896 [13:46] <matt0734> my backup, and now it's only 3.49mb :(
#897 [13:46] <Mjiig> so that's a no?
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#899 [13:47] <N3RF> i have the proper version and deleted all my crack and mcedit
#900 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Hmm...
#901 [13:47] <Mjiig> i know, i'm not telling you off
#902 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> N3RF - Go check your HOSTS file
#903 [13:47] <N3RF> Whaaaat?
#904 [13:47] <Mjiig> GreyVulpine: i think it might be the connection to minecraft.net
#905 [13:47] <teedz> maybe a dumb question, but I couldn't find it on the wiki - how do you wear armor? can you wear just a helmet, etc., or do you need the whole suit?
#906 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> I know
#907 [13:47] <matt0734> it works again but i need all my diamond again i had 64 without cheating :(
#908 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Go check your HOSTS file
#909 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> windows/system32
#910 [13:47] <matt0734> and lots of sulphur?
#911 [13:47] <N3RF> Where? Oo
#912 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> /drivers/etc
#913 [13:48] <Mjiig> i'm having trouble, only 1 in 3 or so connections getting through
#914 [13:48] <N3RF> eeeerh
#915 [13:48] <Mjiig> teedz: you can wear just one piece, or any number
#916 [13:49] <Mjiig> teedz: open your inventory and drag the piece of armour to the appropriate slot, they're to the left of the pic of your player
#917 [13:49] <N3RF> "HOSTNAME"
#918 [13:49] <N3RF> ?*
#919 [13:49] <teedz> N3RF: thanks. I'll consider adding that to the wiki :]
#920 [13:49] <teedz> err Mjiig ^^
#921 [13:49] <mbentley> start > type in 'notepad %windir%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts'
#922 [13:49] <N3RF> :P
#923 [13:50] <N3RF> im there
#924 [13:50] <mbentley> look for any entry that has 'minecraft.net'
#925 [13:51] <N3RF> cant open it?
#926 [13:51] <N3RF> or open with?
#927 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> open with notepad
#928 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> Helping people uncrack things... this is surreal.
#929 [13:52] <N3RF> ehm there is something with minecraft.net
#930 [13:52] <mbentley> remove it
#931 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Pastebin.com it
#932 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> please
#933 [13:52] <N3RF> http://mibpaste.com/fQ5naO
#934 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Right.
#935 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Delete: 127.0.0.1 www.minecraft.net
#936 [13:53] <KillSpammer> Omg GreyVulpine my first successful help
#937 [13:53] <KillSpammer> That i was not ninja´d from
#938 [13:53] <N3RF> cant save then
#939 [13:53] <KillSpammer> I keep getting other people ninjaing my other people :S
#940 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> N3RF - Go to the folder where it's located
#941 [13:53] <N3RF> Yes
#942 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> windows/system32/drivers/etc
#943 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> right click on the file
#944 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> uncheck read-only
#945 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> (properties)
#946 [13:54] <N3RF> ehehe i havent got my system on english :)
#947 [13:54] <N3RF> done :P
#948 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Now save
#949 [13:55] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, Congratz meh nao!
#950 [13:55] * GreyVulpine congrats?
#950 [13:55] <N3RF> still cant save
#951 [13:55] <BarryCarlyon> GoodLocal time all.
#952 [13:56] <mbentley> you right clicked on the 'hosts' file, right?
#953 [13:56] <KillSpammer> I successfuly helped someone with realising there map was corrupted
#954 [13:56] <N3RF> Yep
#955 [13:56] * GreyVulpine gives KillSpammer a cookie
#955 [13:56] * Mjiig gives KillSpammer a bag of cookies just to top GreyVulpine
#955 [13:56] * KillSpammer Wants moar!
#955 [13:57] * KillSpammer has pulled an all nighter
#955 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> cookies? or problems to solve?
#956 [13:57] * KillSpammer Didin´t realise he did :S
#956 [13:57] <KillSpammer> Both
#957 [13:57] <KillSpammer> Seeing how cookies makes me help moar
#958 [13:57] <KillSpammer> And i get cookies helping
#959 [13:57] <KillSpammer> OMG?!
#960 [13:57] <N3RF> still cant save
#961 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> what happens when you try?
#962 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> (the correct answer to this question is never "nothing".)
#963 [13:58] <N3RF> 2 sec
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#965 [14:00] <KillSpammer> The below statement is true
#966 [14:00] <N3RF> File C:/Windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts cannot create - control the gate and filename is correct
#967 [14:00] <KillSpammer> the above statement is false
#968 [14:00] <KillSpammer> NAOOO!!!WW!
#969 [14:01] <TrueWolves> Spam fail
#970 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Wait. what N3RF?
#971 [14:01] <N3RF> I dont know if this is what it exact says, but i havent got it on english
#972 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't make any sense
#973 [14:01] <KillSpammer> The below statement is false
#974 [14:01] <KillSpammer> the above statement is false
#975 [14:01] <KillSpammer> LOl
#976 [14:02] <N3RF> Where can i change language ? :P
#977 [14:02] <mbentley> then the file is still read only...
#978 [14:02] <mbentley> go back to %windir%\system32\drivers\etc\
#979 [14:02] <PigHunter1> :)
#980 [14:02] <N3RF> Yes
#981 [14:02] <mbentley> right click 'hosts' > properties
#982 [14:02] <PigHunter1> :O
#983 [14:03] <N3RF> Yes
#984 [14:03] <mbentley> general tab, uncheck 'read-only' in attributes
#985 [14:03] <N3RF> everything is unchecked
#986 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Did you do it to the right file?
#987 [14:04] <N3RF> Yep
#988 [14:04] <mbentley> try to close the file
#989 [14:04] <mbentley> then make sure the read-only box is still unchecked and then reopen it with notepad
#990 [14:05] <N3RF> when i save it want to save as .txt document
#991 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> No
#992 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> N3RF: this is what you get when you steal things. Go go gadget karma. Good on you for ultimately buying the game, however.
#993 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> No extensions
#994 [14:05] <mbentley> it shouldn't bring up a 'save' dialog box...
#995 [14:05] <N3RF> it does
#996 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> We
#997 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> We're doing something wrong then
#998 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Close the file in notepad
#999 [14:06] <N3RF> Ye
#1000 [14:06] <N3RF> s
#1001 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> recheck the file properties
#1002 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Do you have file extensions enabled?
#1003 [14:07] <N3RF> IDK
#1004 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> list the contents of the /etc folder here
#1005 [14:08] <N3RF> hosts
#1006 [14:08] <N3RF> lmhosts.sam
#1007 [14:08] <N3RF> networks
#1008 [14:08] <N3RF> protocol
#1009 [14:08] <N3RF> services
#1010 [14:08] <N3RF> Thats it
#1011 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Okay, you do have extensions on.
#1012 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> When you right clicked on hosts and went to properties, are any attributes enabled?
#1013 [14:08] <N3RF> No
#1014 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Okay. Open up notepad. Drag the hosts file over to it
#1015 [14:09] <N3RF> Yes
#1016 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> minecraft entry still there?
#1017 [14:09] <N3RF> Ye
#1018 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Remove it
#1019 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Now, press ctrl-s to save it
#1020 [14:10] <N3RF> Same as before
#1021 [14:10] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1021 [14:10] <mbentley> hmm... just hit ok
#1022 [14:10] <mbentley> in the dialog box, type "hosts" (include the quotes) and see what it says when you try to save...
#1023 [14:11] <N3RF> Nothing happens, when i save and quit it ask if i want to save
#1024 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me the error, untranslated, when it tries to save?
#1025 [14:12] <N3RF> Yes but is in danish
#1026 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> That's fine
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#1028 [14:12] <N3RF> Cant copy..
#1029 [14:12] <mbentley> retype it...
#1030 [14:13] <N3RF> And i dont know how t make back /
#1031 [14:13] <N3RF> xD
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#1034 [14:13] <KillSpammer> GIVEME NAO!: http://www2.razerzone.com/switchblade
#1035 [14:13] <N3RF> 2 sec
#1036 [14:14] <N3RF> Filen C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts kan ikke oprettes. Kontroller, at stien og filnavnet er korrekt
#1037 [14:15] <mbentley> what happens when you dismiss that message?
#1038 [14:15] <mbentley> (that is the error you get when the file is read-only)
#1039 [14:15] <N3RF> it closes and the save dialog comes up
#1040 [14:16] <mbentley> in the save dialog, type "hosts" with the quotes
#1041 [14:16] <mbentley> and choose save
#1042 [14:16] <N3RF> i do
#1043 [14:16] <mbentley> and then does it throw another error message?
#1044 [14:16] <N3RF> And then the error message comes up again and it doesnt save
#1045 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, can you try saving the file somewhere else. Delete/or move the original hosts file somewhere else
#1046 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> and replace it?
#1047 [14:18] <N3RF> i try
#1048 [14:18] <Livity> Problem with saving hosts?
#1049 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1050 [14:19] <N3RF> it says i havent permission to save it in etc
#1051 [14:19] <Livity> Run notepad as adminstrator
#1052 [14:19] <Livity> then open the hosts file
#1053 [14:19] <Livity> and it lets you save it
#1054 [14:19] <mbentley> ah...
#1055 [14:19] <mbentley> <-- using winxp here at work
#1056 [14:19] <Livity> vista is pain
#1057 [14:20] <Livity> :D
#1058 [14:20] <N3RF> i cant drag it to notepad now Oo
#1059 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, have never been a non-admin on any windows machine
#1060 [14:20] <mbentley> can always go to file > open
#1061 [14:20] <Livity> Yep
#1062 [14:20] <mbentley> paste in %windir%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
#1063 [14:20] <Livity> gile->open
#1064 [14:21] <N3RF> Wee it saved!
#1065 [14:21] <Livity> gz
#1066 [14:21] <N3RF> thank you my dear man
#1067 [14:21] <N3RF> i love you now
#1068 [14:21] <N3RF> :-*
#1069 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Now we see if you can launch minecraft
#1070 [14:21] <N3RF> IT WORKS!!! :D
#1071 [14:21] <N3RF> :D::D:DD::D:DÆ_FD_D:D_:D_F_
#1072 [14:21] <N3RF> Lol spass out!
#1073 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> About freakin time
#1074 [14:22] <N3RF> Ye :O
#1075 [14:22] <PigHunter1> help me now xD
#1076 [14:22] <N3RF> I help you, i speak on skype you c huck of pork!
#1077 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> Didn't you have the same error PigHunter1?
#1078 [14:22] <PigHunter1> Yes ^ i just get some help from n3rf
#1079 [14:23] <Livity> Have fun playing..
#1080 [14:23] <Livity> :P
#1081 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Next time, pirating = bad, mmkay?
#1082 [14:23] <N3RF> For sure
#1083 [14:23] <mbentley> lol
#1084 [14:23] <mbentley> will have to remember that one...
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#1086 [14:24] <Livity> Where is the game maker from?
#1087 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> sweden
#1088 [14:25] <Mjiig> i seem to recall the notch is sweedish
#1089 [14:25] <Mjiig> flipping ninjas...
#1090 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> I was trained well
#1091 [14:25] <Livity> :O jag talar lite svenska xD
#1092 [14:25] <Livity> Im Finnish
#1093 [14:25] <Livity> :P
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#1095 [14:28] <PigHunter1> THX ALL U GUYS !!!!!! :D :D :D
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#1097 [14:31] <Livity> Is there a way to see upcoming updates or latest updates of minecraft? :)
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#1099 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> notch's blog
#1100 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> http://notch.tumblr.com/
#1101 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> Or his twitter
#1102 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/notch
#1103 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> Or facebook
#1104 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> "minecraft"
#1105 [14:33] <Livity> ty
#1106 [14:33] <Mjiig> also i think notch is planning a twitter which tracks svn commits, which MIGHT show when an update is about to happen
#1107 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Yup, says it on his blog
#1108 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> !server
#1109 [14:34] <Mjiig> GreyVulpine: why was that relevant?
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#1111 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, needed it for #minecraft
#1112 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> Ignore me
#1113 [14:34] <Mjiig> k
#1114 [14:34] <Mjiig> just seemed a bit odd :)
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#1119 [14:47] <N3RF> Hi, just a wuick question - du you have to portforward a modem?
#1120 [14:47] <N3RF> quick** -.-
#1121 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the modem
#1122 [14:47] <N3RF> Its not on portforwarding.com
#1123 [14:47] <N3RF> or what the site is
#1124 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Do "ipconfig" at a command prompt. If it has a 192.168.x.y, or a 10.x.y.z address, you're behind a NAT
#1125 [14:48] <N3RF> It hasnt
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#1127 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> If the address there, matches up with whatismyip.com
#1128 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Then no
#1129 [14:48] <N3RF> OK thanks :P
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#1132 [14:51] <Rylon> cant open up a server, got all ports open, all firewall exceptions are fine, and all the data in the server.properties file is correct.. whats blockin my friends?
#1133 [14:52] <Mjiig> Rylon: are you behind a router?
#1134 [14:52] <Rylon> yush
#1135 [14:52] <Mjiig> have you port forwarded it?
#1136 [14:53] <Livity> What you have in "ip-adress" at server.prop?
#1137 [14:53] <Rylon> i have tried manually since portforward wont work, so yeh i think so :P..
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#1139 [14:54] <Rylon> nothin
#1140 [14:54] <Livity> So its fine..
#1141 [14:54] <Rylon> still wont work
#1142 [14:54] <Livity> Have you tested that if your ports are open?
#1143 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Walk us through your setup
#1144 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on?
#1145 [14:54] <Rylon> vista
#1146 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> What security software do you have on it?
#1147 [14:55] <PigHunter1> Why cant i connect to my mates server ? its saying failed to connect to server "unknon host 80.162.29.16
#1148 [14:55] <Livity> He uses normal port?
#1149 [14:55] <Livity> default*
#1150 [14:55] <PigHunter1> 25565
#1151 [14:56] <Rylon> AVG + the standard vista i think?
#1152 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> And you're absolutely sure it's off/open?
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#1154 [14:56] <Rylon> ill check
#1155 [14:56] <PigHunter1> its open
#1156 [14:56] <Livity> pig, you have bought the game?
#1157 [14:57] <PigHunter1> Yes
#1158 [14:57] <Livity> What your friend has at "ip-adress" in server.properties"?
#1159 [14:57] <PigHunter1> 80.162.29.165:25565
#1160 [14:57] <Livity> it should be just server-ip=
#1161 [14:57] <Livity> no ip there
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#1163 [14:59] <feenyx> wow
#1164 [14:59] <feenyx> 114 users still, after a purge
#1165 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Mmhmm
#1166 [15:00] <Rylon> windows defender is off and the firewall is off
#1167 [15:00] <Rylon> still wont work, my mate gets timed out all the time
#1168 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Okay, computer's internal IP?
#1169 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> You've port forwarded from your router to that IP, with 25565/TCP as the port?
#1170 [15:01] <Rylon> ayes
#1171 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Could you check your router's status page, make sure it's got a WAN/Internet/public ip that matches with whatismyip.com ?
#1172 [15:02] <PigHunter1> hes ip is the same as server ip :i
#1173 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> the server-ip field in server.properties should be blank
#1174 [15:02] <Livity> yep
#1175 [15:03] <PigHunter1> how do he get in to fix that
#1176 [15:03] <Livity> use notepad
#1177 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Open it with notepad, edit it
#1178 [15:03] <Rylon> yeh, its blank
#1179 [15:03] <PigHunter1> he is coming in.
#1180 [15:03] <PigHunter1> hehe i dont understand
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#1182 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> 'lo again
#1183 [15:04] <N3RF> Yes?
#1184 [15:04] <N3RF> :P
#1185 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> You're trying to host a server, but nobody can connect?
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#1187 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Can you connect via localhost?
#1188 [15:04] <N3RF> Yep
#1189 [15:04] <N3RF> and my ip
#1190 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> any security software on your computer?
#1191 [15:04] <N3RF> i can see in console atherian joined fine
#1192 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Any firewalls?
#1193 [15:05] <N3RF> firewalls is off
#1194 [15:05] <Livity> open "server.properties" and check if server-ip= is blank
#1195 [15:05] <Livity> if it has ip adress or localhost in it
#1196 [15:05] <Livity> delete it
#1197 [15:05] <N3RF> done
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#1199 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Your ip is 80.162.29.165 ?
#1200 [15:06] <N3RF> Yes
#1201 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> I'm in
#1202 [15:07] <Livity> Yep, works to me too.
#1203 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Well then, this has probably something to do with PigHunter1's side then.
#1204 [15:07] <aetherian> aww
#1205 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> PigHunter1 - What do you get when you try to connect.
#1206 [15:07] <aetherian> so mean
#1207 [15:07] <aetherian> ;_;
#1208 [15:07] <N3RF> Hes in
#1209 [15:07] <PigHunter1> i got in
#1210 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Okay then
#1211 [15:07] <PigHunter1> Thx guys
#1212 [15:07] <N3RF> Theres only space for 2 aetherian :D
#1213 [15:07] <Livity> :P
#1214 [15:07] <aetherian> D:
#1215 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Glad to see you got it working.
#1216 [15:08] <Livity> Have fun playing! :=)
#1217 [15:08] <PigHunter1> thx
#1218 [15:08] <aetherian> harrumph. have fun.
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#1222 [15:15] <omega-xi> Is launching a server with the command 'java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui' suitable for a machine with 2Gb of RAM?
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#1224 [15:16] <DigitalJedi805> Anyone ever run into any Driver problems on a Windows 7 system with a Radeon X1950?
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#1226 [15:17] <DigitalJedi805> Nah?
#1227 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> What kind of driver problem?
#1228 [15:18] <DigitalJedi805> Client wont boot, fails loading OpenGl
#1229 [15:18] <DigitalJedi805> Rather, looks like it fails attaching itself to the device.
#1230 [15:19] <DigitalJedi805> Posted on the forums to no avail, haven't given it long but I've been battling it for a couple days now.
#1231 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> Link?
#1232 [15:20] <DigitalJedi805> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=17
#1233 [15:20] <DigitalJedi805> Heh
#1234 [15:20] <DigitalJedi805> < Stooge
#1235 [15:20] <DigitalJedi805> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=132593
#1236 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Can you pastebin a dxdiag?
#1237 [15:21] <DigitalJedi805> I can dxdiag, wtf is a pastebin.
#1238 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> website, allows for text pastes
#1239 [15:21] <DigitalJedi805> Ah
#1240 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com
#1241 [15:21] <DigitalJedi805> Sure
#1242 [15:24] <DigitalJedi805> Hate how long DXDiag takes to process everything...
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#1244 [15:24] <DigitalJedi> Interesting....
#1245 [15:25] <DigitalJedi805> Ahem.
#1246 [15:25] <DigitalJedi805> http://pastebin.com/3u6ac068
#1247 [15:26] <DigitalJedi805> Odd, but DXDiag won't pull some bit of information. Not sure what it missed, but it hung trying to read something.
#1248 [15:26] <genshou> http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e106/genshou/Minecraft/creepercard.png
#1249 [15:26] <DigitalJedi805> That's what it output.
#1250 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> You said you reverted back to a previous version?
#1251 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> of your graphics drivers.
#1252 [15:27] <DigitalJedi805> I tried, but it wouldn't take.
#1253 [15:27] <DigitalJedi805> Quite the frustrating predicament.
#1254 [15:27] <genshou> that card was given to me by my sister's friend last night
#1255 [15:27] <DigitalJedi805> Lol don't put it in
#1256 [15:27] <genshou> my whole family stared blankly at me as I was laughing my ass off
#1257 [15:27] <DigitalJedi805> If you <3 minecraft.
#1258 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Well, you're running a Radeon X1950 Series, with a driver dated 7/13/2009
#1259 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
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#1261 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> tells me there's a later version available there
#1262 [15:28] <DigitalJedi805> Hmm
#1263 [15:28] <DigitalJedi805> None of the setups will actually RUN on this system for whatever reason, but I'll see if I can point windows at the driver.
#1264 [15:29] <DigitalJedi805> Yeah, and I've burned this bridge a couple of times already, I'll take another run at it though.
#1265 [15:29] <DigitalJedi805> Hmm, this is a new file though. Not sure how you found it and I didnt lol
#1266 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps try an uninstall of the graphics drivers through windows
#1267 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> through the control panel/device manager?
#1268 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> If this doesn't work.
#1269 [15:30] <CruelNoise> You know what's a cool program? Driver Sweeper
#1270 [15:30] <CruelNoise> or something like that
#1271 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> I can recommend that as well
#1272 [15:30] <CruelNoise> I forget if that's what it's called
#1273 [15:30] <DigitalJedi805> Get it right. Device *MANGLER*, and I may give that a spin.
#1274 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> it's by guru3d
#1275 [15:30] <CruelNoise> GreyVulpine: yeah, that one
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#1277 [15:31] <DigitalJedi805> Well thanks for your help, I'll probably let you all know once ATI offloads their silly little T1 or whatever they're feeding me this file over.
#1278 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Sure, g'luck.
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#1280 [15:38] <Jorc> Hey
#1281 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Yo.
#1282 [15:39] <Jorc> Can someone tell me the name of a mod who is currently in #minecraft please? any will do
#1283 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> bildramer
#1284 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> LG_Legacy
#1285 [15:39] <Jorc> thanks
#1286 [15:39] <LG_Legacy> ?
#1287 [15:39] * GreyVulpine pokes Jorc.
#1287 [15:39] <Jorc> :o
#1288 [15:40] * Jorc slaps GreyVulpine around a bit with a large trout
#1288 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> What do you need Jorc? LG_Legacy's here.
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#1290 [15:40] <Jorc> oh ill PM him
#1291 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Okay then.
#1292 [15:41] <DigitalJedi805> Bloody hell.
#1293 [15:41] <Jorc> Hmm neither are replying, any more ?
#1294 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> He was just here.
#1295 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Um, TrueWolves?
#1296 [15:42] <Jorc> thanks
#1297 [15:43] <TrueWolves> hmm?
#1298 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Ah, you were banned from #MineCraft by LG_Legacy.
#1299 [15:43] <Kealper> *cough*
#1300 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> On Dec 30th
#1301 [15:44] <DigitalJedi805> So the setup won't run for that driver and pointing the device mangler at the folder with the driver claims that the driver is up to date.
#1302 [15:45] <DigitalJedi805> I'd uninstall and reinstall the driver completely but I'm a little concerned about losing my video in the process.
#1303 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Why won't it run DigitalJedi805?
#1304 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> What error is it giving you?
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#1306 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> And uninstalling video drivers will have windows revert back to VGA mode. You won't lose video entirely
#1307 [15:46] <DigitalJedi805> Not sure, just crashes mid setup.
#1308 [15:46] <DigitalJedi805> Mmk
#1309 [15:46] <DigitalJedi805> Ill dump it
#1310 [15:46] <DigitalJedi805> I clear 'Pick a language > Install/Uninstall > Next.... Crash'
#1311 [15:47] <DigitalJedi805> No real diagnostic info
#1312 [15:47] <DigitalJedi805> Windows claims 'This didnt run right, I'll fix it!' or some such, but fails miserably.
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#1314 [15:49] <DigitalJedi805> The driver that we went after doesn't seem to support this card.
#1315 [15:50] <DigitalJedi805> Oooh
#1316 [15:50] <DigitalJedi805> Maybe ust got it
#1317 [15:50] <DigitalJedi805> just*
#1318 [15:51] <DigitalJedi805> *points accusingly at Windows 7* How dare you deny me my right to minecraft -_-
#1319 [15:51] <DigitalJedi805> HAH!
#1320 [15:51] <DigitalJedi805> Got it.
#1321 [15:51] <DigitalJedi805> <3 @ GreyVulpine
#1322 [15:52] <DigitalJedi805> Good call big homey.
#1323 [15:52] <genshou> GV knows stuff :3
#1324 [15:53] <DigitalJedi805> He knows stuff like stuff
#1325 [15:53] <DigitalJedi805> Yay! Downloading Terrain!
#1326 [15:55] <Jorc> i havent played mc in a month or so
#1327 [15:56] <Jorc> Any interesting updates?
#1328 [15:56] <Diablothein> Item duplication bug fixed
#1329 [15:57] <Diablothein> It's in Beta
#1330 [15:57] <Diablothein> Uhm... what else.
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#1332 [16:03] <Kealper> !load mod_console
#1333 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1334 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> I just randomly looked at a topic on the minecraft support forum
#1335 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=132665
#1336 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> "My driver card is a "16MB RAGE 128 Ultra", if I read how to get that up right."
#1337 [16:05] <bearpew> Well
#1338 [16:05] <Kealper> wat?
#1339 [16:06] <bearpew> I got fpsdrop, I've googled and can't find a similar question so
#1340 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> bearpew, what is your problem?
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#1342 [16:06] <bearpew> I just wrote :P
#1343 [16:06] <feenyx> wtf, he's got a 9 year old gpu?
#1344 [16:06] <feenyx> OR, he's trolling
#1345 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> I'm thinking the latter
#1346 [16:07] <Kealper> troll, definately
#1347 [16:07] <Kealper> RAGE cards are well known for their dicksuckery by the ones unfortunate enough to use them
#1348 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> I don't understand bearpew.
#1349 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> fpsdrop?
#1350 [16:07] <Kealper> low fps?
#1351 [16:07] <bearpew> yeah
#1352 [16:07] <DigitalJedi805> Kinda sounds like what Im getting
#1353 [16:07] <bearpew> low dps
#1354 [16:08] <bearpew> But I have it all the time
#1355 [16:08] <DigitalJedi805> As soon as I look at a texture I get a huge spike
#1356 [16:08] <bearpew> my computer is totally ok. 2GB RAM Intel (R) Chipset Family Express 965..
#1357 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried turning down your render distance with "F"?
#1358 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Turned from Fancy graphics to Fast in options?
#1359 [16:08] <DigitalJedi805> <3
#1360 [16:08] <bearpew> Got all the lowest in options
#1361 [16:08] <bearpew> will try "F" now
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#1363 [16:09] <Fluuux> i need help guys
#1364 [16:09] <Fluuux> D:
#1365 [16:09] <DigitalJedi805> H8 nighttime -_-
#1366 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Oh no...
#1367 [16:09] <DigitalJedi805> You guys should consider adding a 'time-of-day' to server properties.
#1368 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Heh, we have no connection to Notch and his team DigitalJedi805.
#1369 [16:10] <Fluuux> can anyone help me?
#1370 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> We're just the community-run support.
#1371 [16:10] <DigitalJedi805> I see. Nice.
#1372 [16:10] <DigitalJedi805> Sup Fluuuuuuuux
#1373 [16:10] <bearpew> It worked a bit smoother now, guess it's ok. Does this mean I have a sucky computer?
#1374 [16:10] <DigitalJedi805> What's the question, Im sure someone can
#1375 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes bearpew.
#1376 [16:10] <DigitalJedi805> Lol welcome to the club m8
#1377 [16:10] <Fluuux> ok... so i want to when someone dies they spawn in a specific block in a spawn i made
#1378 [16:11] <Fluuux> but rather than spawning around the spawn
#1379 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Integrated Intel graphics are nothing compared to dedicated video cards.
#1380 [16:11] <bearpew> That is just shiieeeeeeet. Well, thanks alot GrayVulpix
#1381 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Right Fluuux, that's how it works.
#1382 [16:11] <bearpew> lol you silly pokemon
#1383 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> I'm not a pokemon...
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#1385 [16:11] <Fluuux> but the guy from godcraft had it where you spawn in a specific block
#1386 [16:11] <DigitalJedi805> He just owns 12. 0_o
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#1388 [16:12] <DigitalJedi805> Sounds like a mod fluuux.
#1389 [16:12] <smerft> Can you buy something that costs euros even though u use an American debit card?
#1390 [16:13] <DigitalJedi805> Prolly
#1391 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> If paypal will accept it, yes.
#1392 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> It'll automatically convert
#1393 [16:13] <genshou> international card usage has always worked for me without PayPal
#1394 [16:13] <smerft> Okay Thank you very much
#1395 [16:14] <genshou> even paying directly for hotels and meals in Europe has worked fine with a US credit card
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#1397 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Man.. more people pirating minecraft, but trying to go legit.
#1398 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> "I pirated minecraft but iam now buying will i get errors" is one topic on the forums.
#1399 [16:16] <genshou> lol.
#1400 [16:17] <genshou> Criminal intelligence at its finest
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#1402 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Along with two other people with the same error that n3rf had: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=123477
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#1404 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Thanks for the post there, mbentley.
#1405 [16:20] <TyeDyeHumps> Hey, if i have an alpha account, are the gift codes i give alpha codes? or am i SOL to get alpha accounts now?
#1406 [16:21] <TyeDyeHumps> I looked around and couldnt find anything
#1407 [16:22] <TyeDyeHumps> I mean i know it went beta after teh 20th
#1408 [16:22] <TyeDyeHumps> so i wasnt sure
#1409 [16:22] <rf`> derf
#1410 [16:22] <rf`> ok is #minecraft currently moderated? I haven't been able to say anything all day
#1411 [16:22] <TyeDyeHumps> i believe so
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#1413 [16:24] <rf`> had to register my nick
#1414 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> TyeDyeHumps - It's too late to buy any alpha gift codes now.
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#1416 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> If you had bought gift codes before the 20th, when it was still alpha, those gift codes would've still been good for alpha even if redeemed afterwards
#1417 [16:26] <TyeDyeHumps> Alright thats what it was looking like
#1418 [16:26] <TyeDyeHumps> Darn, thats sad
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#1420 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Sorry.
#1421 [16:27] <TyeDyeHumps> Yeah, im thinking of getting a second account so i can play online on the same server as my brother. Currently i just play offline. And I was wondering if i was ending up with an Alpha account that gets all the updates
#1422 [16:28] <TyeDyeHumps> But, i guess not.
#1423 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> The only difference between an alpha and beta account is that alpha accounts get all expansions, while beta does not.
#1424 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Both get bug fixes, updates, and the final version for free.
#1425 [16:29] <TyeDyeHumps> Yeah, So i guess its not that big of a difference
#1426 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> It really isn't.
#1427 [16:29] <TyeDyeHumps> Depending on how expansion crazy he goes
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#1429 [16:30] <TyeDyeHumps> They should keep gift codes as alphas, I mean, otherwise theres no benefit to them
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#1431 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Well, you're still buying a gift for somebody else, and early adopters got 'alpha' status.
#1432 [16:33] <TyeDyeHumps> I think I'm just going to create a new account, cause i saw a couple threads about problems with the Gift codes
#1433 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> What problems?
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#1435 [16:34] <TyeDyeHumps> Idk, there some people that said they purchased alpha codes but still have not received the email for them.
#1436 [16:34] <TyeDyeHumps> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=131757
#1437 [16:34] <TyeDyeHumps> Theres one of them
#1438 [16:35] <TyeDyeHumps> And i know the Lf dude posted in another one
#1439 [16:36] <MistarC> I guess the mojang team are too "busy" to help people.
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#1441 [16:36] <TyeDyeHumps> Who knows
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#1447 [16:44] <Kratospie> I'm having a problem, the server I made was working fine yesterday, but now, when other people connect, they can't move and say they see no blocks at all.
#1448 [16:45] <Kratospie> Anyone know what could be wrong
#1449 [16:45] <Kratospie> ?
#1450 [16:46] <NinjaKirby> Hold onto yur butts
#1451 [16:46] <Kratospie> :l
#1452 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Kratospie - what has changed between yesterday and today?
#1453 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Has it been up all this time?
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#1455 [16:47] <Kratospie> No
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#1457 [16:47] <Kratospie> I took it down for a bit.
#1458 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Why?
#1459 [16:47] <Kratospie> Because noone would be on
#1460 [16:48] <Kratospie> and I don't run it all the time anyways
#1461 [16:48] <NinjaKirby> Energy Saving, admirable
#1462 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> So, you only took it down? You didn't change anything else?
#1463 [16:48] <Kratospie> nope
#1464 [16:48] <Kratospie> I just took it down
#1465 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Did you gracefully shut the server down?
#1466 [16:48] <Kratospie> yes
#1467 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> Did you turn the actual machine off?
#1468 [16:49] <Kratospie> Wqait
#1469 [16:49] <Kratospie> *wait
#1470 [16:49] <Kratospie> last night
#1471 [16:49] <Kratospie> it was supposed to go off along with my computer
#1472 [16:49] <Kratospie> It SHOULd have shut down right
#1473 [16:49] <Kratospie> but it might not have
#1474 [16:49] <Ngame989> my cousin wanted to stay on after we went to bed
#1475 [16:49] <Ngame989> its worked fine before
#1476 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. who are you?
#1477 [16:50] <Ngame989> His friend
#1478 [16:50] <Kratospie> yeah
#1479 [16:50] <Ngame989> one of the 3 people on the server
#1480 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay.
#1481 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Could you try renaming the /world/ folder, have it generate a new map?
#1482 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> See if that fixes it?
#1483 [16:50] <Kratospie> I can try
#1484 [16:50] <Kratospie> I guess
#1485 [16:50] <Ngame989> See if another map works basically
#1486 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> did you just shut the computer down, or did you gracefully shut the Minecraft server down by typing 'stop' at the console?
#1487 [16:51] <Kratospie> I wasn't able to
#1488 [16:51] <Kratospie> Ngame's cousin wanted it to be up for a long time
#1489 [16:51] <Kratospie> my auto shut down SHOULD have shut it down right
#1490 [16:51] <Kratospie> but it might not have
#1491 [16:51] <Ngame989> so he its worked in the past
#1492 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> define 'auto shutdown'
#1493 [16:51] <MistarC> shutdown automatically
#1494 [16:51] <Kratospie> lol
#1495 [16:51] <MistarC> www.wikipedia.org/autoshutdown
#1496 [16:51] <MistarC> look it up.
#1497 [16:52] <Kratospie> it should have closed all the programs down
#1498 [16:52] <Kratospie> then shut off the computer
#1499 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> MistarC: you are not helping.
#1500 [16:52] <MistarC> www.wikipedia.org/help
#1501 [16:52] <NinjaKirby> ...
#1502 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> Kratospie: when it magically closes the MC server, does it just end the process, or does it stuff a 'stop' command at the console?
#1503 [16:52] <Ngame989> Ok so the plan is to load a different map to see if its the server or the map thats bigged
#1504 [16:52] <Ngame989> *bugged
#1505 [16:52] <Ngame989> It just ends the process
#1506 [16:53] <Ngame989> but it has worked fine before
#1507 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> that's the problem
#1508 [16:53] <Kratospie> yeah
#1509 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> the server needs to be properly shut down or you risk exactly that sort of problem
#1510 [16:53] <Kratospie> I;r trying a new map
#1511 [16:53] <Ngame989> BUT
#1512 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> thay's why there's a stop command.
#1513 [16:53] <Ngame989> we also tried importing a backup
#1514 [16:53] <Ngame989> of the same map
#1515 [16:53] <Ngame989> and it did the same thing
#1516 [16:53] <Ngame989> Ok fun fact
#1517 [16:54] <Ngame989> the new map does the same thing
#1518 [16:54] <Kratospie> it might be the connection
#1519 [16:54] <Ngame989> Also the one thing i noticed
#1520 [16:54] <Ngame989> u know how different parts load?
#1521 [16:54] <Ngame989> like first you then ur inv then ur health then the map?
#1522 [16:54] <Kratospie> chunks
#1523 [16:54] <Kratospie> ph
#1524 [16:54] <Kratospie> oh
#1525 [16:54] <Kratospie> yeah
#1526 [16:55] <Ngame989> well after about 3 minutes of nothingness my hearts went down
#1527 [16:55] <Ngame989> which signalled that it was trying to load
#1528 [16:56] <Ngame989> So we've all redownloaded clients and servers between us
#1529 [16:57] <Ngame989> and nothing
#1530 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> so you have redownoaded the server binary as well?
#1531 [17:00] <Kratospie> The .jar?
#1532 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> yes.
#1533 [17:01] <Kratospie> yeah
#1534 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> Do you see anything unusual on the server console when people are trying to connect?
#1535 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> Are there any mods involved whatsoever?
#1536 [17:01] <Kratospie> no
#1537 [17:01] <Kratospie> no
#1538 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> Do you see anything _at all_ on the server console when people are trying to connect?
#1539 [17:02] <Kratospie> yeah
#1540 [17:02] <Kratospie> normal connection messages
#1541 [17:02] <Kratospie> nothing out of the ordinary
#1542 [17:02] <Ngame989> from wat i understand (we r skype mic-chatting now)
#1543 [17:02] <Ngame989> on HIS screen
#1544 [17:02] <Ngame989> which is fine
#1545 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> "[INFO] Username [/1.2.3.4:12345] logged in with entity id 1234"?
#1546 [17:02] <Ngame989> we are standing still where we logged off before
#1547 [17:03] <Ngame989> We can't move or do anything
#1548 [17:03] <Kratospie> yep
#1549 [17:03] <Ngame989> BUT we can drop items
#1550 [17:03] <Kratospie> Dope, thats what I get.
#1551 [17:03] <Ngame989> and switch items in our inventories and he sees it on his
#1552 [17:03] <Ngame989> so since inventory is server sided...
#1553 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> Interesting
#1554 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> sounds like you might be spawning in one of those magic missing client-side chunks
#1555 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> but reconnecting usually fixes that IME
#1556 [17:04] <Ngame989> ok ill take u step by step what happens on mine
#1557 [17:04] <Ngame989> ok the Downloading Terrain loading step
#1558 [17:04] <Ngame989> takes unusually long
#1559 [17:04] <Ngame989> and theres no green bar
#1560 [17:05] <Ngame989> IF it loads at all (which it sometimes times out)
#1561 [17:05] <Ngame989> I start at the top and fall down toward Void
#1562 [17:05] <Ngame989> but i just stop at the bottom
#1563 [17:05] <Ngame989> the compass and watch and day change work fine
#1564 [17:05] <Ngame989> but my physical presence and map are glitched
#1565 [17:06] <Ngame989> it seems that everything server sided works and everything client sided doesnt
#1566 [17:06] <DopeGhoti> Ngame989: that's exactly what happens if you spawn into a missing chunk; it sounds like your client isn't getting any chunks at all.
#1567 [17:06] <Ngame989> yep
#1568 [17:06] <DopeGhoti> you said you redownloaded the client- did you clear the bin directory as well?
#1569 [17:07] <Ngame989> ill try
#1570 [17:09] <Ngame989> so basically clearing the bin force-updates the client
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#1572 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> correct.
#1573 [17:09] <Ngame989> ok dowloading terrain is still frozen
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#1575 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> "move to a warmer biome?"
#1576 [17:10] <Ngame989> Yea now its just basically freezing on terrain and timing out
#1577 [17:10] <Kratospie> he's in the server.
#1578 [17:10] <Kratospie> I see him
#1579 [17:10] <Kratospie> and now he just d/c
#1580 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> what version of Java is your machine running, Ngame989?
#1581 [17:10] <Kratospie> [INFO] Ngame989 lost connection: disconnect.endOfStream
#1582 [17:10] <Ngame989> idk but my java autoupdate didnt show anything
#1583 [17:10] <Ngame989> ill check now
#1584 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> (also, what OS?)
#1585 [17:11] <Ngame989> Windows 7 64 bit
#1586 [17:12] <Ngame989> ok found java
#1587 [17:13] <Ngame989> version 6 build 18 i think
#1588 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> okay, there's a newer version available from Oracle
#1589 [17:14] <Ngame989> ok thats it then i bet
#1590 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> I'd install that and see if it helps at all
#1591 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> (you want the JRE package from their site; JDK has tools and whatnot that you do not need)
#1592 [17:14] <Ngame989> wait i just went to the java site
#1593 [17:15] <Ngame989> and theyre auto-update thing detected i have the current version apparently
#1594 [17:15] <Ngame989> 6-23
#1595 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> you said6.18
#1596 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> :p
#1597 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> 23 is current, yes
#1598 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> damn.
#1599 [17:15] <Ngame989> well yea i said 6-18
#1600 [17:15] <Ngame989> cuz i just searched java
#1601 [17:15] <Ngame989> opened the java control panel
#1602 [17:15] <Ngame989> and the About said 6-18
#1603 [17:16] <Ngame989> but the website says i have 6-23
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#1605 [17:16] <Ngame989> crap i have to go for now so if u think of anything post it and ill check when i get back on
#1606 [17:16] <Ngame989> afk now
#1607 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> DigitalJedi805: Good morming, Andrew. How can #minecrafthelp assist you today?
#1608 [17:19] <xales> lol DopeGhoti
#1609 [17:19] <xales> you scared him off
#1610 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> Mwahaah.
#1611 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> We through the mythical power of hostmasks, can sometimes divine others' names.
#1612 [17:23] <xales> indeed, Rob
#1613 [17:23] <xales> :P
#1614 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> *ghasp*
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#1617 [17:32] <Ngame989> back
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#1621 [17:38] <Kratospie> anyone
#1622 [17:38] <Kratospie> ?
#1623 [17:39] <aetherian> what was the question?
#1624 [17:40] <NinjaKirby> Hold onto yur butts
#1625 [17:40] <Ngame989> we're having quite interesting server difficulties
#1626 [17:40] <Ngame989> the gist of what i understood from another chatter before was that other clients then the one running the server
#1627 [17:40] <Ngame989> cannot seem to load chunks at all
#1628 [17:41] <Kratospie> we think
#1629 [17:41] <Kratospie> for any map
#1630 [17:41] <Ngame989> we all have fully updated everything (java, client/server, bin files, etc)
#1631 [17:41] <Kratospie> we've tried multiple maps
#1632 [17:41] <Kratospie> and same thing
#1633 [17:42] <aetherian> reinstalling?
#1634 [17:42] <Ngame989> yup redownloaded client for us server for kratos multiple times
#1635 [17:42] <Ngame989> well us meaning my cousin and i
#1636 [17:43] <Ngame989> who are the only others who use the server
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#1638 [17:45] <Ngame989> augh be back soonish again
#1639 [17:47] <Kratospie> Could it be my connection?
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#1641 [17:47] <BlackdevilTM> hey guys anyone germe who can help me wit mc classic ?
#1642 [17:48] <BlackdevilTM> german
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#1648 [17:59] <luminoso> can someone help me with this please: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1174918/minecraft.JPG
#1649 [18:00] <Kealper> luminoso: reinstall java, http://java.com
#1650 [18:00] <luminoso> i already reinstalled java and cleaned java cache
#1651 [18:01] <Kealper> what os do you have?
#1652 [18:03] <luminoso> win7 67bit ultimate
#1653 [18:03] <luminoso> i already played minecraft before
#1654 [18:03] <luminoso> but since this happens i did not got a solution
#1655 [18:03] <Kealper> hmm....how long ago did this start happening?
#1656 [18:03] <luminoso> since yesterday
#1657 [18:03] <luminoso> for every server
#1658 [18:04] <Kealper> do you remember doing anything to the computer right before it happened? (install some software, untinstal something, etc)
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#1660 [18:04] <luminoso> humm a challange it looks
#1661 [18:04] <luminoso> nop. all normal and clear
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#1663 [18:04] <luminoso> is there any other cache than java own cache for minecraft?
#1664 [18:05] <Kealper> not that i know of....you have restarted your computer since this happened, right?
#1665 [18:05] <luminoso> yes
#1666 [18:05] <Kealper> can't say i know what that error means :/
#1667 [18:05] <Kealper> it's been a long while since i've played classic :/
#1668 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> luminoso: you've also deleted .minecraft/bin, yes?
#1669 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> ..oh, this is classic? Hmm.
#1670 [18:06] * DopeGhoti steps back to the shadows, like a good Balrog
#1670 [18:06] <luminoso> is paid version that good?
#1671 [18:07] <luminoso> i've been on this just for a few days
#1672 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> In my opinion: yes.
#1673 [18:07] <luminoso> just lurking arround what is minecrafting
#1674 [18:07] <luminoso> how it is on paid version? i mean: when you build online is there any guarantee of server avaiability?
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#1676 [18:07] <luminoso> i mean: it looks like a lost of time build big things and then lost it for no reason
#1677 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> luminoso: Do you like legos? do you like zombies? Do you like building things? Do you like exploring? If at least three of your answers are 'yes' you will almost definitely enjoy the hell out of Minecraft.
#1678 [18:08] <Ngame989> dear god this is confusing
#1679 [18:08] <Ngame989> nothing works!
#1680 [18:08] <Kealper> Ngame989: lolwut
#1681 [18:09] <Ngame989> i was on here a bit ago with a confusing server problem
#1682 [18:09] <Ngame989> dope knows about it
#1683 [18:09] <luminoso> DopeGhoti, what about servers. is it run by amateurs like on free version?
#1684 [18:09] <Ngame989> and nothinnnnnnnnnnnng works
#1685 [18:10] <Edoraz> mm
#1686 [18:10] <Edoraz> Someone mind trying to connect to this server real quick? 98.162.177.50:25565
#1687 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> luminoso: if this channel is any indication, there are plenty of amateur servers, but there are also many professionally-run servers
#1688 [18:11] <luminoso> also: minecraft.exe avaiable for free is the same of the paid version?
#1689 [18:12] <Kealper> minecraft.exe is free to download, but when you run it, it will ask you to log in
#1690 [18:12] <luminoso> i'm thinking giving it a try. minecrafting feels like building a tree house
#1691 [18:13] <luminoso> Kealper, but the .exe file is the same, right?
#1692 [18:13] <luminoso> because my minecraft.exe also don't run
#1693 [18:13] <luminoso> on both computers.
#1694 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> luminoso: yes, but it won't work until you've successfully logged in
#1695 [18:13] <luminoso> lolol something strange in here grgrgrgr
#1696 [18:13] <Kealper> it should still run minecraft.exe.....
#1697 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> on each computer.
#1698 [18:13] <Kealper> something with your java is messed up
#1699 [18:13] <Kealper> bad
#1700 [18:14] <Iguana> Is it just a black screen?
#1701 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> well, yes, you'll be able to run the .exe, but you don't be able to do anything _but_ try to log in
#1702 [18:14] <luminoso> it looks like. is minecraft.exe also java i suppose
#1703 [18:14] <Iguana> You could try running the .jar version and allocating more memory
#1704 [18:14] <Kealper> yes luminoso
#1705 [18:14] <luminoso> Iguana, it simple don't run at all
#1706 [18:14] <Kealper> his java is totally borked
#1707 [18:14] <luminoso> now i have a clue then
#1708 [18:14] <Iguana> reinstall java?
#1709 [18:14] <luminoso> it's my java VM
#1710 [18:14] <luminoso> Iguana, already done that
#1711 [18:14] <Kealper> luminoso: go in and totally uninstall java, then reinstall it
#1712 [18:15] <luminoso> i'll do that again but manually clean all java-related folders on %appdata%
#1713 [18:15] <Iguana> im no computer wizard but cant you do some regedit crazy wizard magic as well?
#1714 [18:15] <luminoso> i was just wondering if is just me or something
#1715 [18:15] <luminoso> now i know that is my java eheh
#1716 [18:16] <Kealper> brb
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#1719 [18:21] <Ngame989> is anyone there?
#1720 [18:21] <Kealper> i am...sorta
#1721 [18:22] <Ngame989> alright well my friend and i are having an odd server problem
#1722 [18:22] <Ngame989> he connects fine but no chunks whatsoever load for me and my cousin
#1723 [18:23] <Ngame989> he sees me standing still and i can drop items but on my map im floating in infinity
#1724 [18:23] <Kealper> and you eventually DC?
#1725 [18:23] <Ngame989> if i dont then i just quit
#1726 [18:23] <Ngame989> but i have before yes
#1727 [18:23] <Ngame989> nothing seems to fix it
#1728 [18:23] <luminoso> well.. solved. was not about java
#1729 [18:23] <Kealper> and does it happen on all servers or just his?
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#1731 [18:24] <Ngame989> we've all redownloaded the client and server files and bins
#1732 [18:24] <Kealper> luminoso: oh? wwas it something stupid?
#1733 [18:24] <luminoso> if anyonde is wondering i used "everything" app to search all minecraft related
#1734 [18:24] <luminoso> and deleted all
#1735 [18:24] <Ngame989> plus checked and we all have newest java
#1736 [18:24] <luminoso> :x
#1737 [18:24] <luminoso> everything is like windows search but a lot faster
#1738 [18:24] <Kealper> me hates Everything
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#1740 [18:24] <Kealper> fail
#1741 [18:24] * Kealper hates Everything
#1741 [18:24] <Kealper> much better
#1742 [18:25] <luminoso> lol
#1743 [18:25] <luminoso> the search app? why's that?
#1744 [18:25] <Diablothein> I less than three you too Kealpybby!
#1745 [18:25] <Kealper> i just prefer the search from the start menu, it seems to do it's job fine, and i can get to it by pressing the windows key and just type away
#1746 [18:26] <Ngame989> no one seems to know wat could be causing our problem
#1747 [18:26] <Kealper> Ngame989: does it happen on all servers you join? or just his?
#1748 [18:27] <Ngame989> havent tried other servers
#1749 [18:27] <Ngame989> we've tried other maps on his server and same thing
#1750 [18:27] <Ngame989> but ill go try
#1751 [18:27] <Kealper> mc.thoatt.com
#1752 [18:27] <Kealper> or not?
#1753 [18:27] <Kealper> hmm...
#1754 [18:27] <Kealper> connect to greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#1755 [18:28] <Ngame989> kk
#1756 [18:28] <luminoso> DopeGhoti, how is it abou griefing on paid servers?
#1757 [18:29] <Ngame989> ok well other servers work
#1758 [18:29] <Ngame989> so its his comp, internet, or plain old server file
#1759 [18:29] <Ngame989> the last one doesnt make sense cuz we have tried multiple maps
#1760 [18:29] <Ngame989> and all of them do the same thing
#1761 [18:31] <Kealper> probably his ethernet adapter then, if i had to take a random shot in the dark
#1762 [18:31] <Ngame989> and since the map works on his with no problem that should pretty much mean its the connection between us
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#1764 [18:31] <Ngame989> alright we are mic chatting on skype so ill pass anything along he says
#1765 [18:32] <Ngame989> he sayd his comp is wirelessly connected and he hasnt changed anything since last night
#1766 [18:32] <Ngame989> when it worked fine
#1767 [18:32] <Ngame989> plus his other internet things work so it cant be a generic internet problem
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#1769 [18:32] <Kealper> no...i think i know exactly what it is...
#1770 [18:33] <Kealper> just not sure if he wants to go through the work of fixing it
#1771 [18:33] <Ngame989> hes willing
#1772 [18:33] <Ngame989> our map was amazing as crap so we all will work to get it back
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#1774 [18:34] <Kealper> well..get him in irc, easier for me to talk to him directly
#1775 [18:34] <Kratospie> Hey.
#1776 [18:34] <Kratospie> Im here.
#1777 [18:34] <Kealper> oh xD
#1778 [18:34] <Kealper> what os do you have?
#1779 [18:34] <Kealper> (what version of windows)
#1780 [18:34] <Kratospie> Windows 7 Home Premium.
#1781 [18:34] <Kratospie> 64 bit
#1782 [18:34] <Kealper> ok then
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#1784 [18:35] <Kealper> right click on Computer and click Properties
#1785 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Saw some activity, what's wrong?
#1786 [18:35] <Kratospie> ok
#1787 [18:35] <Kealper> i had to steal your server because mine is down
#1788 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Ah, kay kay
#1789 [18:35] <Kealper> Kratospie: on the left of that window, click Device Manager
#1790 [18:36] <Kratospie> ok
#1791 [18:36] <Kealper> in the treeview thing, expand Network adapters
#1792 [18:36] <Kratospie> k
#1793 [18:36] <Kealper> how many are there? a lot? or just a few?
#1794 [18:36] <Kratospie> 2
#1795 [18:36] <andResin> I need hek
#1796 [18:36] <Kealper> ok, what are their names?
#1797 [18:37] <andResin> help
#1798 [18:37] <andResin> i got a server
#1799 [18:37] <andResin> and when somebody wanna open a chest
#1800 [18:37] <andResin> he got kicked
#1801 [18:37] <Kealper> andResin: are you running any mods?
#1802 [18:37] <andResin> yes
#1803 [18:37] <Kealper> disable the mods, try again
#1804 [18:37] <Kratospie> ok
#1805 [18:37] <andResin> k
#1806 [18:37] <Kratospie> kealper
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#1808 [18:37] <Kratospie> now what
#1809 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Kratospie - What are the names of the network adapters you see?
#1810 [18:38] <Kealper> what are the names of the two adapters
#1811 [18:38] <Kealper> don't need the full name, just a brand, like Realtek or Hamachi
#1812 [18:39] <Kratospie> Realtek FCIe FE Family Controller the second one is Realtek RTl8188CE Wireless LAN 802.11n PCI-E NIC
#1813 [18:39] <andResin> I quit the mods
#1814 [18:39] <Ngame989> both realtek then
#1815 [18:39] <andResin> and the ppl keep getting kicked
#1816 [18:39] <Kealper> Kratospie: ok, double click the second one, the one that says NIC in it
#1817 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> andResin - How'd you stop the mods?
#1818 [18:39] <Kratospie> k
#1819 [18:40] <Kealper> Kratospie: click on the Advanced tab
#1820 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Did you remove them from the plugins folder? or the properties file? Or did you run the server natively?
#1821 [18:40] <Kealper> Kratospie: you should see a thing called Property:
#1822 [18:40] <andResin> the Control Panel has a option to disable the mods, and I disable the mods
#1823 [18:40] <andResin> and then I restart the server
#1824 [18:40] <Kratospie> advanced tab ok
#1825 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Control panel?
#1826 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> andResin - What are you running exactly?
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#1828 [18:40] <Kealper> Kratospie: is there something called "Recieve Buffers" and "Transmit Buffers" in there?
#1829 [18:40] <andResin> a SMP Server
#1830 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Obviously. What mods and admin stuff are you running?
#1831 [18:41] <Kratospie> no
#1832 [18:41] <Kealper> crap.
#1833 [18:41] <Kealper> well, there goes that idea
#1834 [18:41] <andResin> i was running cuboid, worldguard, worldedit, help ticket, backup plugin, creeper nerf
#1835 [18:41] <Ngame989> ok he just afked for a sec i think
#1836 [18:42] <Kratospie> well
#1837 [18:42] <Kratospie> ok
#1838 [18:42] <Kratospie> then now what
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#1840 [18:42] <Ngame989> or not
#1841 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> andResin - And the control panel?
#1842 [18:42] <Kealper> Kratospie: i'm out of ideas.....guess that was not the problem
#1843 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - Antivirus?
#1844 [18:42] <Kratospie> the first one has receive buffers
#1845 [18:42] <Kratospie> on it
#1846 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> security software
#1847 [18:42] <Ngame989> the family one?
#1848 [18:42] <Kealper> could be, but it sounds strange for av/firewall stuff
#1849 [18:42] <Kratospie> yeah
#1850 [18:42] <Kratospie> it does have it
#1851 [18:43] <andResin> I find another problem
#1852 [18:43] <Kealper> it lets them in, but no chunks load
#1853 [18:43] <andResin> it says
#1854 [18:43] <Kealper> Kratospie: oh?
#1855 [18:43] <Kratospie> yeah
#1856 [18:43] <Kratospie> the first one does
#1857 [18:43] <Kealper> what are their values?
#1858 [18:43] <Kratospie> transmit 128
#1859 [18:43] <Kealper> 256? or 512?
#1860 [18:43] <andResin> [WARNING] Failed to handle packet
#1861 [18:43] <andResin> and a lot of names
#1862 [18:43] <andResin> of some files
#1863 [18:43] <Kealper> transmit
#1864 [18:43] <Kratospie> recive 512
#1865 [18:43] <Kealper> set transmit to 512
#1866 [18:44] <Kratospie> out of range
#1867 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> andResin - Is there any way you can just run minecraft_server.jar? Without going through hmod's minecraft_mod.jar?
#1868 [18:44] <Kealper> 256?
#1869 [18:44] <Kratospie> out of range
#1870 [18:44] <Kratospie> 1 to 128
#1871 [18:44] <Kealper> ._.
#1872 [18:44] <andResin> I dont know
#1873 [18:44] <Kealper> that is not enough to host a minecraft server....the buffer is too small to send the chunk data
#1874 [18:44] <andResin> its a server panel
#1875 [18:44] <Ngame989> i wonder then
#1876 [18:45] <Kratospie> IT worked fine before.
#1877 [18:45] <Ngame989> cuz its worked for the past few weeks
#1878 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> andResin - This is on a hosted server somewhere?
#1879 [18:45] <Kealper> Kratospie: when is "before"? how long ago?
#1880 [18:45] <Ngame989> yesterday
#1881 [18:45] <Ngame989> and at least 2 weeks before that
#1882 [18:45] <andResin> Yes
#1883 [18:45] <Kealper> well that's definately weird.....
#1884 [18:45] <Kratospie> yea
#1885 [18:46] <Kealper> i'm surprized it even ran correctly at all with a 128 byte transmit buffer :/
#1886 [18:46] <Ngame989> it worked fairly lag free too
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#1888 [18:46] <Kealper> Kratospie: and nothing changed on your computer?
#1889 [18:46] <Ngame989> would wired/wireless connection affect anything?
#1890 [18:46] <Kratospie> are you sure it couldn't be something else
#1891 [18:46] <Kratospie> nothing changed
#1892 [18:46] <Kealper> well, it's probably not that....no use beating a dead horse....
#1893 [18:47] <Kratospie> So what can I do
#1894 [18:47] <Ngame989> well what COULD change on a comp that would cause a server to stop working entirely
#1895 [18:47] <Diablothein> Kealper: To tenderize the meat so it'd cook better.
#1896 [18:47] <Kealper> Diablothein: true, true....
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#1898 [18:47] <Ngame989> literally overnight
#1899 [18:47] <Kealper> well...i don't know what could have happened that would cause it to suddenly stop like that
#1900 [18:47] <Kratospie> It did
#1901 [18:48] <Kratospie> Nothing should have changed
#1902 [18:48] <Kratospie> could something else on the network be screwing it up
#1903 [18:48] <Kealper> potentially
#1904 [18:49] <Kratospie> any ideas?
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#1906 [18:49] <Kealper> is there anyone like....pirating up a storm in your houes?
#1907 [18:49] <Kealper> house*
#1908 [18:49] <Kratospie> no
#1909 [18:49] <Kealper> do you have antivirus software?
#1910 [18:49] <Kratospie> yes
#1911 [18:49] <Ngame989> would that have changed a setting overnight though?
#1912 [18:50] <Kratospie> it didn't update last night
#1913 [18:50] <Kealper> try disabling it and give it another go.... (i'm totally running out of ideas)
#1914 [18:50] <Ngame989> ok well his sis is more often than not the cause of his internet problems
#1915 [18:50] <Ngame989> hes going to check on that right now
#1916 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Ngame989 - This happens on fresh maps?
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#1918 [18:51] <Ngame989> every map on his server yea
#1919 [18:51] <Ngame989> we've tried the one we wanted to play another used one and a fresh one
#1920 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> I mean, newly generated, using the latest server software
#1921 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Not a different SP world or anything
#1922 [18:51] <Kealper> i'd like to try and connect after he gets back, i want to see if it doe sit for me, too
#1923 [18:52] <Ngame989> yes we all downloaded the newest of every minecraft software
#1924 [18:54] <Ngame989> wtf then
#1925 [18:54] <Ngame989> i have no clue now
#1926 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Can we try connecting?
#1927 [18:54] <Ngame989> its just me and my cousin that cant get on i guess
#1928 [18:54] <Ngame989> yea go right ahead
#1929 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> Ngame989: have you tried any _other_ servers?
#1930 [18:54] <Ngame989> we tried vulpines and it worked
#1931 [18:55] <Ngame989> it seems to be the connection between me and him
#1932 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Can I get the ip?
#1933 [18:55] <Ngame989> cuz independently we both work fine
#1934 [18:55] <Ngame989> but when my client to his server its goofed
#1935 [18:55] <magik> anyone ever have any issues with the server not saving inventory when you "gracefully" shut it down with the "stop" cmd?
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#1937 [18:56] <magik> i do a server restart every 24 hours, and the last time this happened - someone reported having their inventory rolled back/lost
#1938 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> magik: I have not.
#1939 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> I have not either magik.
#1940 [18:56] <Ngame989> ok yea im floating in nothingness
#1941 [18:56] <magik> i've gotten that before when the server crashes hard
#1942 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Ngame989 - IP?
#1943 [18:56] <magik> but i thought a graceful stop was supposed to save everything right?
#1944 [18:57] <magik> how about save-all - does that save inventories to disk?
#1945 [18:57] <Ngame989> ok i just timed out
#1946 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> magik: it should. 'all' is a superset of inventory
#1947 [18:57] <magik> hrm..... i have issues with that as well
#1948 [18:57] <magik> i issue a save-all every 10 minutes
#1949 [18:58] <magik> but when the server crashes or gets killed with SIGHUP or SIGKILL, the inventories roll back much further than 10 minutes
#1950 [18:58] <magik> but the world blocks are saved
#1951 [18:58] <magik> but inventories... not so much
#1952 [18:58] <magik> mebe it's just buggy right now?
#1953 [18:58] <Kealper> magik: it has to do with the way it loads the files
#1954 [18:58] <Ngame989> ok yea its definitely an issue with the connection between our comps
#1955 [18:58] <magik> can you explain that more?
#1956 [18:59] <Kealper> world chunk data is constantly being opened and flushed/closed, inventories are open in memory for as long as the players are connected, and only get flushed/closed when they disconnect
#1957 [18:59] <magik> hrm.... so a save-all wouldn't necessarily save the inventory?
#1958 [18:59] <magik> only possibly on disconnect?
#1959 [19:00] <Kealper> yeah, i don't think save-all flushes the inventories to the disk
#1960 [19:00] <magik> i wonder if it's possible to trigger an inventory save without actually having a client disconnected
#1961 [19:00] <magik> maybe through hMod somehow?
#1962 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> magik - What kind of server is this?
#1963 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> personal? rented?
#1964 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: Modded. :p
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#1966 [19:02] <Ngame989> ok kratos said u mentioned a local connection issue
#1967 [19:02] <Ngame989> since we all do live fairly close to each other
#1968 [19:03] <Ngame989> and it is snowing a nice bit maybe enough to cause issues
#1969 [19:04] <Kealper> yes, he said a power pole went down
#1970 [19:05] <Ngame989> the question is tho
#1971 [19:05] <Ngame989> why is that only affecting minecraft?
#1972 [19:05] <Ngame989> o wait i get it now
#1973 [19:05] <Kealper> power poles carry cable and phone lines, too....so there could just be really bad connection between you two
#1974 [19:05] <Ngame989> skype uses a cloud server
#1975 [19:05] <Ngame989> so thats y we can still skype fine
#1976 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> It's still going down the same line to your house
#1977 [19:06] <Ngame989> well then crap
#1978 [19:06] <Ngame989> cuz everything else we can think of internet wise works between us
#1979 [19:06] <Ngame989> other than the server
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#1981 [19:06] <Kealper> well...i'm out of ideas then....
#1982 [19:06] <Ngame989> the only other thing i can think of that will test your theory
#1983 [19:06] <Ngame989> is setting up a brawl match
#1984 [19:06] <Kealper> but that is quite a coincidence for the minecraft server to start sucking as soon as a power pole goes down...
#1985 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> tracert to him?
#1986 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> or even ping -t? see how bad the packet loss is?
#1987 [19:07] <Ngame989> that would test whether or not the internet between us is down
#1988 [19:07] <Ngame989> ah u have a point
#1989 [19:07] <Ngame989> so ping his ip then?
#1990 [19:07] <mib_kuvhuf> okay so my minecraft seems to be messed up...when it becomes night everthing becomes invisible but cows and chickens......wtf.......how do i fix this?
#1991 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> mib_kuvhuf: could you post a screenhot of this?
#1992 [19:08] <mib_kuvhuf> one sec
#1993 [19:08] <Ngame989> well i just pinged the IP that i use to connect to his server
#1994 [19:08] <Ngame989> the packets all came back
#1995 [19:09] <Ngame989> average of 155 ms
#1996 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Did you ping, or ping -t?
#1997 [19:09] <Ngame989> ping
#1998 [19:09] <Ngame989> im trying -t now
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#2001 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> 4 packets doesn't say anything.
#2002 [19:10] <Ngame989> they keep coming back
#2003 [19:10] <Ngame989> anywhere from 5-=250 ms
#2004 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> None of them timing out?
#2005 [19:10] <Ngame989> *50-250
#2006 [19:10] <Ngame989> no
#2007 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2008 [19:10] <Ngame989> im getting constant replies
#2009 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> ctrl-c to cancel then
#2010 [19:10] <Ngame989> wait
#2011 [19:10] <Ngame989> 1 just timed
#2012 [19:10] <Ngame989> only 1 tho
#2013 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> 1 out of dozens is just a fluke.
#2014 [19:10] <Kealper> he just crashed i think
#2015 [19:11] <Kratospie> no
#2016 [19:11] <Kratospie> I closed it
#2017 [19:11] <magik> GreyVulpine: sorry, was AFK - it's a linux server- centOS RHEL 5 VPS/VM
#2018 [19:11] <Kealper> oh
#2019 [19:11] <Kratospie> :P
#2020 [19:11] <magik> with hmod
#2021 [19:11] <Kratospie> to spare your life I closed the server
#2022 [19:11] <Kealper> i was not running from it, i was luring it to the water to safely blow it up without destroying the ground lol
#2023 [19:11] <magik> GreyVulpine: why do u ask?
#2024 [19:12] <Ngame989> i have no freaking idea anymore
#2025 [19:12] <magik> so new patch/update coming friday eh?
#2026 [19:12] <Ngame989> the main reason i want to know is if school is closed tomorrow i want something to do for 8 hours
#2027 [19:12] <Ngame989> :D
#2028 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> magik - Just wondering about permissions, whether or not you have full permissions to all your stuff
#2029 [19:12] <magik> yeah i got perms
#2030 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> magik: or Thurdsay, depending on whether WoN or FB/MC is more authorative
#2031 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> And it's supposed to be thursday, from his blod
#2032 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> blog*
#2033 [19:12] <magik> it's running out of the user's home directory - everything is chown'd to him
#2034 [19:13] <Kratospie> lols
#2035 [19:13] <magik> i dont think it's a perm issue... it's the fact that MC keeps the inventories in memory and not on disk
#2036 [19:13] <magik> i need to figure out a way to trigger an inventory save
#2037 [19:13] <mib_kuvhuf> how do i post screenshots?
#2038 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_kuvhuf - imgur.com
#2039 [19:13] <magik> imgur.com ?
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#2041 [19:16] <Diablothein> imageshack.us
#2042 [19:17] <Ngame989> so... um... we're out of ideas?
#2043 [19:17] <magik> speedtest.net ?
#2044 [19:18] <magik> minecraft uses a LOT of bandwidth
#2045 [19:18] <magik> i would know, i ran a server on amazon ec2 for 5 days and got charged $17 bucks for 100GB of bandwidth
#2046 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Yikes
#2047 [19:18] <magik> but just 2 players... shouldn't be that bad
#2048 [19:18] <Kealper> i'm still leaning towards the downed lines
#2049 [19:18] <magik> it's like 30kB/s on average i'd say per player
#2050 [19:18] <magik> what's ur upstream speed?
#2051 [19:18] <magik> or the "server"s upstream?
#2052 [19:18] <Ngame989> yea me too
#2053 [19:19] <Kealper> it's just too much of a coincidence
#2054 [19:19] <Ngame989> to sound completely accurate
#2055 [19:19] <magik> also - your ping jumping around between 50-250ms leads me to believe that there may be a routing issue
#2056 [19:19] <magik> or a overloaded router/switch
#2057 [19:19] <mib_kuvhuf> http://imgur.com/ierfQ&2mwYL <----when i look down and ahead..
#2058 [19:19] <mib_kuvhuf> there are two images
#2059 [19:19] <Ngame989> well i think it mightve been closer to 100
#2060 [19:19] <Ngame989> but it was double digits minimum
#2061 [19:20] <magik> when i ping a server near me, i get a near constant value, maybe differening by a couple ms
#2062 [19:20] <magik> not hundreds of ms
#2063 [19:20] <magik> it just sounds like a very unreliable connection
#2064 [19:20] <Ngame989> hm true
#2065 [19:20] <magik> when you ping -t'd
#2066 [19:20] <magik> u got absolutely no packet loss though?
#2067 [19:20] <Kealper> mib_kuvhuf: minecraft is not supported on PowerPC macs
#2068 [19:20] <Ngame989> only 1 out of near 100
#2069 [19:20] <Ngame989> which is probably a fluke
#2070 [19:20] <magik> interesting
#2071 [19:20] <magik> no it may not have been
#2072 [19:20] <magik> you may want to try increasing the ping packet size
#2073 [19:20] <Ngame989> how
#2074 [19:21] <magik> on windows?
#2075 [19:21] <Kealper> they can only have up to Java 1.5 installed, minecraft is only fully supported on Java 1.6
#2076 [19:21] <Ngame989> yea
#2077 [19:21] <magik> ping -t -l 1500 <ip>
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#2079 [19:21] <Ngame989> kk
#2080 [19:21] <dsuni> do you guys help with servers and mulitplayer?
#2081 [19:21] <magik> if you're getting pretty much any PL, that could lead to connection issues
#2082 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Yes we do dsuni
#2083 [19:22] <magik> anyone know if that bukkit preview is gonna come soon?
#2084 [19:22] * Kealper goes afk nao
#2084 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> It'll be done when the bukkit devs say it's done
#2085 [19:22] <magik> was supposed to be a "few days", but it's already been that?
#2086 [19:22] <Ngame989> the 1500s are nearly always timing out
#2087 [19:22] <magik> yeah ngame
#2088 [19:22] <magik> you will have problems
#2089 [19:22] <Ngame989> its about half and half
#2090 [19:22] <magik> 1500 is near the max-size of a packet
#2091 [19:22] <Ngame989> but the trick is
#2092 [19:22] <magik> and i'm fairly certain the chunk updates are big sized packets
#2093 [19:23] <Ngame989> its been fine for weeks :l
#2094 [19:23] <magik> but the downed power line or w/e
#2095 [19:23] <Ngame989> could affect the speed
#2096 [19:23] <magik> basically some hardware, one of your hops
#2097 [19:23] <magik> is getting overloaded
#2098 [19:23] <magik> and can't handle all the packets it's getting
#2099 [19:23] <magik> so it's dropping them
#2100 [19:23] <magik> you could try maybe a proxy? though that's somewhat of a stretch and probably doubtful it will help
#2101 [19:23] <magik> tbut if you can avoid the hop that's having the problems
#2102 [19:24] <magik> then you probably could connect
#2103 [19:24] <dsuni> hey im trying to host a server through hamachi, i can connect from teh server computer, but nobody else can connect. is this a common problem?
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#2105 [19:24] <magik> and yes a downed power line could cause problems like this
#2106 [19:24] <Ngame989> and the reason skype works for us
#2107 [19:24] <Ngame989> is cuz it runs off a cloud server
#2108 [19:24] <magik> because it could be powering a router/switch - and noce the power goes down, network routing procedures re-route those packets through other nodes
#2109 [19:24] <Ngame989> aka avoid the hop
#2110 [19:24] <magik> and because of that now one node is dying
#2111 [19:25] <magik> well - the reason skype probably works for you
#2112 [19:25] <magik> is that it doesn't have to go through that hop to get to their server
#2113 [19:25] <Ngame989> yea
#2114 [19:25] <magik> whereas connecting from you to him, does
#2115 [19:25] <Ngame989> from wat i think kealper explained
#2116 [19:25] <magik> it's essentially the same thing, skype is the "proxy" in that connection
#2117 [19:25] <Ngame989> if you are close together the internet runs through different lines then if ur far away
#2118 [19:26] <Ngame989> which explains why keal could connect no problem
#2119 [19:26] <magik> yeah
#2120 [19:26] <magik> more or less
#2121 [19:26] <Ngame989> and i can connect to vulpines server
#2122 [19:26] <magik> basically the "shortest" route from you to him, goes through that dying node
#2123 [19:26] <magik> and there's not much you can do about it
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#2126 [19:27] <magik> what's weird dsuni?
#2127 [19:27] <magik> anyone use hamachi?
#2128 [19:27] <Ngame989> ah well time to play maplestory :)
#2129 [19:27] <magik> i havn't used it in ages, maybe someone else can help him
#2130 [19:27] <magik> ngame - you could try using a VPN or proxy....
#2131 [19:27] <magik> but yeah... prolly easier to just wait it out
#2132 [19:27] <Ngame989> well i have to go soon anyways
#2133 [19:28] <Ngame989> as long as its working or we have a way to get it to work tomorrow
#2134 [19:28] <Ngame989> cuz of school cancelled
#2135 [19:28] <Ngame989> assuming it is
#2136 [19:28] <Ngame989> well thanks for your help everyone!
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#2138 [19:38] <aetherian> is there a way to bring a world back to the way it was before you messed with it? (I know you probably get this a lot)
#2139 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> If you kept a backup, sure
#2140 [19:39] <aetherian> but like, no certain files to delete?
#2141 [19:39] <aetherian> oh well...
#2142 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: actually
#2143 [19:39] <aetherian> yes dopefish>
#2144 [19:39] <aetherian> *?
#2145 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> if you want to return a world to a pristine state, keep the level.dat, and delete everything else,
#2146 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> and the world will be "reset" but have the same geology
#2147 [19:40] <aetherian> cool
#2148 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> you _will_ lose buildings, inventory, etc.
#2149 [19:41] <aetherian> mmhmm
#2150 [19:46] <aetherian> ugh, my friend keeps talking about herobrine, as if it were real.
#2151 [19:47] <aetherian> >.>
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#2153 [19:48] <Tiago> O hai. Is anything wrong with the payments ? I bought the game like... 15 mins ago and still saying I didn't.
#2154 [19:48] <Kratospie> oh god not more herobrine shit
#2155 [19:48] <Kratospie> Tiago
#2156 [19:48] <Kratospie> it takes a bit
#2157 [19:48] <Kratospie> give it a while
#2158 [19:48] <Tiago> ( lol @ this using my name has my nickname )
#2159 [19:48] <Tiago> Okay, thanks Kratospie
#2160 [19:48] <Tiago> Also, shouldn't I recieve an e-mail or something?
#2161 [19:48] <Kratospie> i don't remeber
#2162 [19:49] <Tiago> Well I'll just wait till tomorrow. Once again, thanks
#2163 [19:49] <aetherian> he just keeps raving about it. and he doesn't believe it was a hoax. it is starting to quite get on my noives.
#2164 [19:49] <Kratospie> tell him its not in the game files
#2165 [19:49] <Kratospie> because
#2166 [19:49] <Kratospie> it isnt
#2167 [19:49] <aetherian> he won't listen.
#2168 [19:50] <aetherian> I'm going to show him the video of notch saying it was a hoax
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#2170 [19:50] <Kratospie> just show him the tweet from notch
#2171 [19:52] <Miclee> What, Herobrine?
#2172 [19:52] <Miclee> Your friend actually believes that? >_>
#2173 [19:53] * TrueWolves winces
#2173 [19:53] <TrueWolves> I heard the idiot word, is it time for me to smack things again?
#2174 [19:53] <Miclee> Tell him the pigman says Herobrine doesn't exist.
#2175 [19:53] <Miclee> If he says 'Who's the pigman?', hit him.
#2176 [19:58] <TrueWolves> hard
#2177 [19:58] <TrueWolves> and that a minecraft IRC/wiki op and oldbie said to.
#2178 [20:07] <LG_Legacy> What
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#2181 [20:13] <untoldent> Hi all. Is this an alright place to ask for help with a Minecraft backup tool?
#2182 [20:13] <untoldent> i can't quite figure out how to get this one working:
#2183 [20:13] <untoldent> http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=179
#2184 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> untoldent: #hey0
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#2186 [20:14] <untoldent> kthx
#2187 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#2188 [20:14] <magik> nice! hmod has a hook for saving inveotires to file
#2189 [20:14] <magik> mebe i'll script this up real quick as a way to not timetravel back when the server crashes
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#2193 [20:25] <aetherian> thanks to minecraft, I now resent people shushing me even more
#2194 [20:26] <aetherian> >.>
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#2199 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: hah
#2200 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> I still want to find a way to mod peoples' clients from me server, to replace the cows' "mooooOOOOOO" with "SSssSSssssSS" :)
#2201 [20:51] <Diablothein> for me server
#2202 [20:51] <Diablothein> what are ya? A pirate?
#2203 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> no, I'm a poor typisy.
#2204 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> erm
#2205 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> typist.
#2206 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> (see?)
#2207 [20:51] <Diablothein> Nope
#2208 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> Avast, ye scurvy dog. Enough wi' yer shenannigans!
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#2210 [20:57] <Diablothein> So, a pirate walks into a bar with a paper towel on his head.
#2211 [20:57] <Diablothein> bartender says: "Hey, you got a paper towel on you head."
#2212 [20:58] <Diablothein> Pirate: "Arr! I've a bounty on me head!"
#2213 [20:58] <aetherian> ...
#2214 [20:58] <mbentley> wow
#2215 [20:58] <aetherian> what he said.
#2216 [20:58] <mbentley> so Diablothein, have you heard about that new pirate movie?
#2217 [20:58] <aetherian> yeah
#2218 [20:58] <Diablothein> rated Arrrr
#2219 [20:58] <aetherian> it's rated AAARRRRGh
#2220 [20:58] <aetherian> darniot
#2221 [20:58] <aetherian> >.>
#2222 [20:58] <mbentley> :D
#2223 [20:58] <Diablothein> :D
#2224 [20:58] <aetherian> D:
#2225 [20:58] <aetherian> D:
#2226 [20:59] <Diablothein> Pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel on his crotch
#2227 [20:59] <aetherian> wahaha
#2228 [20:59] <aetherian> so funny
#2229 [20:59] <aetherian> *sniff*
#2230 [20:59] <Diablothein> bartender: "Hey, you got a steering wheel on your crotch"
#2231 [20:59] <Diablothein> Pirate: "Aye, it be driving me nuts!"
#2232 [21:00] <aetherian> >.>
#2233 [21:00] <Diablothein> <.<
#2234 [21:00] <Diablothein> sup
#2235 [21:00] <aetherian> per?
#2236 [21:00] <Diablothein> Dude...
#2237 [21:01] <Diablothein> You know what I've noticed?
#2238 [21:01] <aetherian> yes I do
#2239 [21:01] <aetherian> because I'm psychotic.
#2240 [21:01] <Diablothein> Oh really, what might that be?
#2241 [21:01] <Diablothein> Yes, you're insane, we know.
#2242 [21:01] <aetherian> >:D
#2243 [21:01] <Diablothein> But, besides the point.
#2244 [21:01] <aetherian> besides
#2245 [21:01] <aetherian> I'm only fey
#2246 [21:01] <aetherian> I was trying to set up a joke
#2247 [21:01] <aetherian> that failed
#2248 [21:02] <Diablothein> Badly
#2249 [21:02] <aetherian> well
#2250 [21:02] <aetherian> hey
#2251 [21:02] <aetherian> you didn't cooperate
#2252 [21:02] <Diablothein> Didn't know how :D
#2253 [21:02] <Diablothein> So, know what I've noticed?
#2254 [21:03] <aetherian> so I said
#2255 [21:03] <Coll> does anyone here use blender?
#2256 [21:03] <aetherian> yes I do, because I'm ps- oh forget it.
#2257 [21:03] <aetherian> and yes I know what you've noticed
#2258 [21:03] <Coll> how do you install a plugin
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#2260 [21:03] <Diablothein> Oh really, then what is it?
#2261 [21:03] <aetherian> I can't tell you, I'd have to kill you
#2262 [21:03] <aetherian> brb
#2263 [21:03] <Diablothein> Cause you don't know.
#2264 [21:04] <Coll> great
#2265 [21:04] <Coll> first person to answer and they dont want to help
#2266 [21:04] <Diablothein> Coll, lmgtfy
#2267 [21:04] <Diablothein> aetherian was responding to my question :P
#2268 [21:04] <Coll> sorry you have to spell out your works
#2269 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> Do you know why the democratic party's abbreviation is 'D'? Because it stand for 'good enough, but only barely'. Do you know why the abbreviation for the republican party is 'R'?
#2270 [21:04] <Coll> words
#2271 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> Because that's the sound they make before they stab you in the neck and feed you to the sharks.
#2272 [21:05] <Diablothein> dope, retards.
#2273 [21:05] <aetherian> back for a lil
#2274 [21:05] <aetherian> but not really
#2275 [21:05] <Diablothein> So...
#2276 [21:05] <Diablothein> When I was a young'n, I was made to walk the plank.
#2277 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> ./~ A needle pulling thread ./~
#2278 [21:06] <Diablothein> We couldn't afford a dog.
#2279 [21:06] <aetherian> >.>
#2280 [21:06] <aetherian> oh god
#2281 [21:06] <Diablothein> Pwn'd
#2282 [21:07] * aetherian cuts off diablothein's fingers and subsequently shoves them up his a-
#2282 [21:07] <aetherian> pwn'd
#2283 [21:07] <Diablothein> umad
#2284 [21:07] <aetherian> oi
#2285 [21:07] <aetherian> you're not supposed to be able to type
#2286 [21:08] <aetherian> I was attempting to get rid of all your future jokes.
#2287 [21:08] <Diablothein> Why did the pirate's daughter never get asked out on dates?
#2288 [21:08] <Diablothein> She had a sunken chest.
#2289 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> What colour socks to pirate wear?
#2290 [21:09] <Diablothein> dunno
#2291 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> Arrrrgyle.
#2292 [21:09] <aetherian> RRREd
#2293 [21:09] <aetherian> oh
#2294 [21:09] <aetherian> mine's worse
#2295 [21:09] <Diablothein> I thought it was Marrrroon
#2296 [21:09] <aetherian> so I win
#2297 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> What's a pirate's favorite Sci-Fy series?
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#2299 [21:09] <aetherian> oh I know
#2300 [21:09] <Diablothein> Warrrr of the worlds
#2301 [21:09] <Diablothein> :D
#2302 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> negative.
#2303 [21:10] <Diablothein> positive
#2304 [21:10] <aetherian> zero!
#2305 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> Starrrrr Warrrrrs.
#2306 [21:10] <Diablothein> That too
#2307 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> What's a pirate's favorite crime?
#2308 [21:10] <aetherian> oh I know
#2309 [21:10] <aetherian> arrrrmed assault
#2310 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> also acceptable: Arrrrson.
#2311 [21:10] <Diablothein> ^
#2312 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> also acceptable: Piracy.
#2313 [21:11] <aetherian> >.>
#2314 [21:11] <Diablothein> Not really, Pirates don't pirate
#2315 [21:11] <aetherian> that's what you do.
#2316 [21:11] <Diablothein> Who helps pirates build ships?
#2317 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> carrrrpenters.
#2318 [21:11] <Diablothein> ^
#2319 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#2320 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> These are horrible.....
#2321 [21:11] <Diablothein> Why did the man become a pirate?
#2322 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> also (earlier) acceptable: Larrrrceny.
#2323 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> Diablothein: Napstarrrrr
#2324 [21:12] <Diablothein> No
#2325 [21:12] <Diablothein> Because he didn't learn the three ARRRrrs
#2326 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> the Arrrr IAA said so.
#2327 [21:12] <Diablothein> Dude, I heard that national pirate month is in January...
#2328 [21:12] <aetherian> no
#2329 [21:12] <Diablothein> I honestly think it should be in Marrrrrrrch
#2330 [21:12] <aetherian> it's in
#2331 [21:12] <aetherian> januARRRRRy
#2332 [21:13] <Diablothein> ^fail
#2333 [21:13] <aetherian> ^failmore
#2334 [21:13] <Diablothein> ^fail
#2335 [21:13] <aetherian> ^failmore
#2336 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> Who's a pirate's favorite nate-night talk show host?
#2337 [21:14] <aetherian> dunno. don't watch tv.
#2338 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> Carrrrrson.
#2339 [21:14] <Diablothein> What's a pirate's favourite fish dish?
#2340 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> Carrrrp.
#2341 [21:14] <Diablothein> >.<
#2342 [21:14] <Diablothein> got me.
#2343 [21:14] <aetherian> hey hey hey
#2344 [21:14] <aetherian> two birds were sitting on a perch. one said to the other, "do you smell fish?"
#2345 [21:15] <aetherian> :D
#2346 [21:15] <CruelNoise> hhaha
#2347 [21:15] <Diablothein> A large Humpback whale is lazily enjoying a beautiful day when he sees a female Humpback whale just a little ways off, and he thinks to himself that he's going to try to impress her...
#2348 [21:15] <Diablothein> He swims over to her, and breeches the surface, showing off the large hump on his back.
#2349 [21:15] <Diablothein> She looked unimpressed as she breached and showed a larger more well formed hump herself.
#2350 [21:15] <Diablothein> Now, a little embarrassed, he tries again to impress her by taking a breath and blowing a huge cloud of mist and water with a really nice rainbow in it.
#2351 [21:15] <Diablothein> Once again she looked unimpressed and she blew a larger cloud of mist, with a more beautiful rainbow.
#2352 [21:15] <Diablothein> Now clearly agitated, the Male sees a Navel vessel in the distance and races off toward it. Just before he collides with the ship, he dives, jumps out of the water and as he sails over the bow of the ship, he plucks a sailor off the deck and in one gulp swallows him whole!
#2353 [21:15] <Diablothein> He swam back to her very proud of himself, only to find the female object of his attentions with a disgusted look on her face...
#2354 [21:15] <Diablothein> As she swam off she said..."I'll Hump, I'll Blow, BUT I WON'T SWALLOW SEAMEN!
#2355 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> no fair copying and pasting.
#2356 [21:15] <aetherian> ikr
#2357 [21:15] <Diablothein> Friend of mine sent me that.
#2358 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> Holy spam batman
#2359 [21:16] <Diablothein> Got a problem with it, I can leave and crack pirate jokes elsewhere.
#2360 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> A pirate, a swaskbuckler, and a seaman all walk into a bar. The barkeep looks up and says, "What is this, some kind of a joke?"
#2361 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> No, just less BAZILLION lines of a joke at once please.
#2362 [21:16] <aetherian> gey, we're just spicing up this channel
#2363 [21:16] <aetherian> *grey
#2364 [21:16] <aetherian> :#
#2365 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> s'alright
#2366 [21:17] <Diablothein> Dude, it's a story, read it, you'll get it.
#2367 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> I'm good, thanks.
#2368 [21:17] <aetherian> actually, he's bad, but oh well.
#2369 [21:18] <aetherian> pirates love artichokes.
#2370 [21:19] <aetherian> actually, so do I.
#2371 [21:19] <aetherian> boiled, then dipped in melted butter...
#2372 [21:19] <aetherian> yum
#2373 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> What's a pirate's favorite high-school class?
#2374 [21:19] <Diablothein> Dude, why did the pirate go to the Apple store?
#2375 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> Arrrrt.
#2376 [21:19] <Diablothein> To buy an iPatch!
#2377 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> Diablothein: Weak.
#2378 [21:19] <Diablothein> umad
#2379 [21:20] <aetherian> what does the pirate have trouble doing in everyday life?
#2380 [21:20] <aetherian> arrrrticulating.
#2381 [21:20] <Diablothein> dude... why do seagulls fly over the sea?
#2382 [21:20] <aetherian> to get to the other side
#2383 [21:20] <aetherian> :O
#2384 [21:20] <DopeGhoti> because if they flew under it, they'd drown.
#2385 [21:20] <Diablothein> Because if they flew over the bay, they'd be bagels!
#2386 [21:20] <aetherian> badum dum
#2387 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> How many infants can you fit into a blender?
#2388 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> According to the police report, three.
#2389 [21:21] <aetherian> where are US pirates from?
#2390 [21:21] <aetherian> ARRRkansas
#2391 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> Arrrrkansas
#2392 [21:22] <aetherian> heh, nice
#2393 [21:22] <DopeGhoti> also acceptable: Flarrrrrida.
#2394 [21:22] <DopeGhoti> Garrrrga.
#2395 [21:22] <DopeGhoti> Boston Harrrrbor.
#2396 [21:22] <aetherian> what do new pirates do too often?
#2397 [21:22] <Diablothein> oooh! found a good one.
#2398 [21:23] <aetherian> barrrrf
#2399 [21:23] <aetherian> FOUND?
#2400 [21:23] <Diablothein> What did the pirate throw at George W. Bush.
#2401 [21:23] <aetherian> I've been thinking these up >.>
#2402 [21:23] <aetherian> oh I know
#2403 [21:23] <Diablothein> so... what is it?
#2404 [21:24] * aetherian chokes back a laugh
#2404 [21:24] <aetherian> dunno
#2405 [21:24] <Diablothein> His Sketcharrrrrrs.
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#2407 [21:24] <aetherian> so uh, what's a pirate's favorite kind of structure? not the right word...
#2408 [21:24] <Diablothein> barrrrrn
#2409 [21:24] <aetherian> built thing.
#2410 [21:25] <aetherian> no
#2411 [21:25] <DopeGhoti> Arrrch.
#2412 [21:25] <aetherian> yes
#2413 [21:25] <Diablothein> Dude, what is a pirate's favourite part about birthday parties?
#2414 [21:25] <aetherian> what do pirates uploaded their illegal wares in?
#2415 [21:25] <DopeGhoti> not RAR. No one uses RAR
#2416 [21:25] <DopeGhoti> Anyone who uses RAR loses at the internet.
#2417 [21:26] <DopeGhoti> Who're a pirate's favorite band?
#2418 [21:26] <DopeGhoti> The Carrrrdigans.
#2419 [21:26] <Diablothein> Da-balloons!
#2420 [21:26] <DopeGhoti> also acceptable: the Carrrrpenters.
#2421 [21:26] <DopeGhoti> also acceptable: the Carrrs.
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#2423 [21:27] <xales> DopeGhoti: enjoying manning the helpdesk? ;)
#2424 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> xales: I'm not slacking off; I'm compiling.
#2425 [21:27] <aetherian> what do nerdy pirates do for recreation?
#2426 [21:28] <aetherian> larrrrp
#2427 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> parrrty
#2428 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> carrrrd games
#2429 [21:28] <aetherian> mine's better.
#2430 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> no
#2431 [21:28] <aetherian> yes.
#2432 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> LARP is _never_ the right answer.
#2433 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> see RAR.
#2434 [21:28] <aetherian> nerds don't party.
#2435 [21:28] <aetherian> >.>
#2436 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> what are you talking about? My party hit level 30 last week!
#2437 [21:29] <Diablothein> To err is human
#2438 [21:29] <Diablothein> To ARR is pirate
#2439 [21:29] <aetherian> to ARR is pirtae
#2440 [21:29] <aetherian> ack
#2441 [21:29] <aetherian> >>>
#2442 [21:29] <Diablothein> Fail
#2443 [21:29] <DopeGhoti> to err is human; to realy foul things up requires a computer.
#2444 [21:30] <CruelNoise> I'm sorry, Dave.
#2445 [21:30] <aetherian> so a merchant tries to sell a bird for ten dollars over the regular price, so the buyer replied, "that's foul play!"
#2446 [21:30] <CruelNoise> I can't do that.
#2447 [21:30] <Diablothein> CN failed
#2448 [21:30] <Diablothein> It's I'm afraid I can't let you do that.
#2449 [21:30] <CruelNoise> ?
#2450 [21:31] <CruelNoise> Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
#2451 [21:31] <CruelNoise> I'm sorry dave.
#2452 [21:31] <CruelNoise> I'm afraid I can't do that.
#2453 [21:31] <aetherian> ah, pirates, they're too close when you're a merchant ship, but too farrr when you're going hunting for them.
#2454 [21:32] <aetherian> what's a pirates favorite animal?
#2455 [21:32] <CruelNoise> what?
#2456 [21:32] <CruelNoise> A walrus?
#2457 [21:32] <aetherian> arrrrdvark.
#2458 [21:32] <Diablothein> Dude, what's Capitan Hook's favourite store?
#2459 [21:32] <aetherian> what are pirates afraid of?
#2460 [21:32] <DopeGhoti> walmarrrrt.
#2461 [21:32] <aetherian> the arrrmy
#2462 [21:32] <DopeGhoti> and crocodiles.
#2463 [21:33] <aetherian> >.>
#2464 [21:33] <Diablothein> The Secondhand Store.
#2465 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2466 [21:33] <aetherian> *giggle*
#2467 [21:33] <aetherian> err
#2468 [21:33] <aetherian> I did not just giggle
#2469 [21:33] <CruelNoise> I did.
#2470 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> yes, you did type that out loud.
#2471 [21:33] <aetherian> gesp
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#2473 [21:34] <xales> *giggity*
#2474 [21:34] <DopeGhoti> what's _really_ a pirate's favorite store?
#2475 [21:34] <DopeGhoti> Parrrrrty Barrrrn.
#2476 [21:34] <Diablothein> I didn't say pirate's.
#2477 [21:34] <Diablothein> I said Capitan Hook's
#2478 [21:34] <DopeGhoti> Yes, and Mr. Hook ain't no pirate.
#2479 [21:35] <CruelNoise> He's just a tyrant
#2480 [21:35] <aetherian> what's a pirates favorite pickup line?
#2481 [21:35] <aetherian> aaarrre you doing anything tonight?
#2482 [21:35] <DopeGhoti> Just.. no.
#2483 [21:35] <aetherian> just... yes
#2484 [21:35] <CruelNoise> I'm not.
#2485 [21:36] <Diablothein> That's just fail.
#2486 [21:36] <DopeGhoti> CruelNoise: you can't be a tyrant; you've no magic @.
#2487 [21:36] <CruelNoise> DopeGhoti: I was saying that Capt. Hook was a tyrant
#2488 [21:36] <DopeGhoti> CruelNoise: Yes, and I was trying to play distorted context theatre.
#2489 [21:37] <DopeGhoti> "He's just a tyrand. I am not."
#2490 [21:37] <aetherian> what do pirates need to build?
#2491 [21:37] <Diablothein> Ships
#2492 [21:37] <Diablothein> badum tss
#2493 [21:37] <aetherian> no, vocabularrrries
#2494 [21:37] <Diablothein> What did the pirate from Boston say
#2495 [21:38] <Diablothein> AHHHHHHHHHHH!
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#2497 [21:38] <aetherian> heh
#2498 [21:38] <Diablothein> What kind of phone calls do pirates make?
#2499 [21:38] <Diablothein> Booty calls
#2500 [21:39] <Diablothein> What do pirates and pimps have in common?
#2501 [21:39] <Diablothein> They both say YO HO!
#2502 [21:39] <aetherian> and santa
#2503 [21:39] <aetherian> he adds another ho though
#2504 [21:40] <aetherian> what parrrt of pirates smell the worst?
#2505 [21:40] <aetherian> their arrrmpits
#2506 [21:40] <aetherian> brb
#2507 [21:40] <Diablothein> What do you call a thousand pirates in one room?
#2508 [21:41] <Diablothein> Avast conspiracy
#2509 [21:42] <DopeGhoti> oaky, that one wasn't bad, but again
#2510 [21:42] <DopeGhoti> no points for copying and pasting.
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#2513 [21:50] <nipper> Anyone know of a tool like Cartograph that I can use on CentOS for making maps?
#2514 [21:50] <mbentley> c10t
#2515 [21:51] <mbentley> mcmap
#2516 [21:51] <mbentley> those are the two i use
#2517 [21:52] <nipper> ty c10t looks like it will do it.
#2518 [21:53] <mbentley> np
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#2520 [21:58] <aetherian> back
#2521 [21:59] <aetherian> hey, what does the channel mode +c mean?
#2522 [21:59] <aetherian> some seem to have it while others don't
#2523 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> prevents control characters from being sent
#2524 [21:59] <aetherian> contro- oh I'll google it.
#2525 [22:00] <Linkshot> Like Bold, Underline, Italic, Reverse, Original
#2526 [22:00] <Linkshot> And Colour!
#2527 [22:00] <xales> only color
#2528 [22:00] <xales> +C is no formatting whatsoever
#2529 [22:01] <aetherian> so we can still do this
#2530 [22:01] <aetherian> :D
#2531 [22:01] <xales> but don't
#2532 [22:01] <aetherian> so colour can't be added?
#2533 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Right
#2534 [22:01] * aetherian tests
#2534 [22:02] <aetherian> you're right
#2535 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> whee, got in line at thesantaclaw.com
#2536 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> 'bout freakin time too
#2537 [22:02] <aetherian> gasp
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#2539 [22:03] <edwardthefma> hello all
#2540 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> ello gov'na
#2541 [22:04] <edwardthefma> brb
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#2544 [22:04] <the_late_man> oh *()&
#2545 [22:05] <the_late_man> I think I just screwed up big time
#2546 [22:05] <the_late_man> pressing the light touch network thing at the front of my laptop
#2547 [22:05] <the_late_man> it better not pause the download
#2548 [22:05] <the_late_man> I've been waiting for it for hours
#2549 [22:05] <the_late_man> literaly.
#2550 [22:06] <aetherian> I will be so ticked off if it fails. it was at ten minutes left.
#2551 [22:06] <aetherian> >.>
#2552 [22:07] * aetherian slaps himself
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#2557 [22:26] <edwardthefma> ok im back
#2558 [22:27] <edwardthefma> dose mine craft use up alot of recorcess
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#2560 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#2561 [22:28] <edwardthefma> processing recorcess
#2562 [22:28] <edwardthefma> im thinking of starting a server
#2563 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Okay...
#2564 [22:29] <edwardthefma> but i want to get a better idea before i start it
#2565 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Any idea on size?
#2566 [22:29] <xales> edwardthefma: why don't you tell us what you have and we can tell you if it will run
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#2568 [22:34] <edwardthefma> quad core @2.50GHz running debean and a FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64
#2569 [22:35] <edwardthefma> i know thay are both capabale of running the server software
#2570 [22:35] <xales> how much ram
#2571 [22:35] <edwardthefma> lots
#2572 [22:36] <xales> ...
#2573 [22:36] <xales> do you want help or not?
#2574 [22:36] <edwardthefma> the deban server i dont know but the freebsd has at least 6 gigabyte
#2575 [22:37] <edwardthefma> theas are 2 shell severvices i admin on
#2576 [22:37] <xales> how is the server running more than one OS exactly?
#2577 [22:37] <edwardthefma> thare are 2
#2578 [22:37] <xales> if you don't have root access, you probably can't run the server
#2579 [22:37] <edwardthefma> linux servers
#2580 [22:37] <xales> you need to have sun java installed
#2581 [22:38] <edwardthefma> ok
#2582 [22:38] <xales> is it a VPS, a dedicated server, or a shell account
#2583 [22:38] <xales> that you are trying to run it on
#2584 [22:40] <edwardthefma> it is a dedicated server that happens to be used as a free shell service
#2585 [22:40] <edwardthefma> wich i have root
#2586 [22:40] <xales> I highly reccomend not running it on a server that is running free shells, lol
#2587 [22:40] <edwardthefma> i was wanting ot get a idea of how big of a process it would be
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#2590 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> edwardthefma - I would recommend nothing less than a gig or two of RAM free, a processor from the latter part of this decade, and a connection speed that has a healthy upstream.
#2591 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> The more the better, depending on how many people you think your server will handle at once.
#2592 [22:42] <edwardthefma> kk
#2593 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> If you give us your requirements, we can narrow that down a bit more
#2594 [22:45] <edwardthefma> hold on let me if i can make the server spit out the detales to me
#2595 [22:47] * edwardthefma wishes he could rember
#2595 [22:48] <edwardthefma> the termal command :)_
#2596 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> for..
#2597 [22:48] <edwardthefma> linux
#2598 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> I meant, the command to do what?
#2599 [22:49] <xales> !paid Fallen Elf
#2600 [22:49] <xales> s.i.g.h, of course
#2601 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#2602 [22:49] <edwardthefma> ahh found it lspci -v
#2603 [22:49] <edwardthefma> XD
#2604 [22:51] <edwardthefma> ok i found it
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#2607 [22:52] <xales> !paid Fallen
#2608 [22:54] <edwardthefma> CPU Model: AMD Sempron 3600+ (2126.61 MHz)
#2609 [22:54] <edwardthefma> CPU Speed: 3600+ (2126.61 MHz)
#2610 [22:55] <edwardthefma> Operating System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p2
#2611 [22:55] <edwardthefma> :)
#2612 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Can you 'top' ?
#2613 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM?
#2614 [22:56] <edwardthefma> 6 gigabyte
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#2617 [22:57] <Kakeru> I am just wondering, why my friends can join my server
#2618 [22:57] <Kakeru> but when I connect
#2619 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, RAM's not bad, a single core sempron, if nothing else is running on it, shouldn't be too bad
#2620 [22:57] <Kakeru> it hangs on Downloading Terrain
#2621 [22:57] <XScizzor> I need help with Startgate mod!
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#2623 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> XScizzor - We don't provide support for mods here. Try #hey0
#2624 [22:58] <Red_M> hey my minecraft server cant connect to my irc channel y is this?
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#2626 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Red_M - We don't know?
#2627 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Kakeru - Is this a beta or classic server?
#2628 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> How are you connecting?
#2629 [23:00] <Red_M> classic server
#2630 [23:00] <Red_M> using mclawl
#2631 [23:00] <Kakeru> It's a hey0 server
#2632 [23:00] <Kakeru> so I'm asking in #hey0 atm
#2633 [23:01] <xales> Red_M: we don't support custom servers
#2634 [23:01] <Red_M> ok
#2635 [23:01] <Red_M> srry
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#2641 [23:28] <randomuser-field> I need some help getting minecraft working on fedora, without installing the proprietary nvidia drivers. Here's the error: http://fpaste.org/pEoj/ - can anyone help?
#2642 [23:29] <xales> GreyVulpine:
#2643 [23:30] <xales> ^he might have a solution
#2644 [23:30] <randomuser-field> coool
#2645 [23:31] <randomuser-field> the google results i've turned up trend towards installing nvidia's binaries, and that breaks the crap out of fedora
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