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#7 [00:19] <SchecteRc5> i purchased the game last week (with a gift code) and it no longer recognizes that i bought the game and i cannot play it. anyone here who could help me?
#8 [00:19] <SchecteRc5> my friend has the reciept for the gift code if needed
#9 [00:20] <xales> what i your username
#10 [00:20] <xales> is*
#11 [00:20] <SchecteRc5> SchecteRc5
#12 [00:20] <xales> !paid SchecteRc5
#13 [00:20] <xales> huh, looks like that bot is broken
#14 [00:21] <xales> anyway, that account isn't flagged premium
#15 [00:21] <SchecteRc5> it says i havent payed?
#16 [00:21] <xales> it says your account isn't premium, which means either payed for or had a gift-code redeemed
#17 [00:21] <SchecteRc5> yes i redeemed a gift code
#18 [00:22] <xales> have your friend log in to minecraft.net and go to his profile. at the bottom will be a list of his gift codes and who has redeemed them
#19 [00:22] <SchecteRc5> ok will do
#20 [00:23] <SchecteRc5> itll take him a few minutes...
#21 [00:23] <xales> no problem
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#23 [00:29] <SchecteRc5> haha well it was redeemed under SchecterRc5 (with two r's) i just had my username wrong and must have registered two accounts... anyways its working now under that name, thanks!
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#30 [00:43] <mib_gaww7p> ok so, i have an old version, alpha 1.2.6 and i need to update to beta 1.1_02 but it will not auto update, what do i do
#31 [00:44] <xales> what is your username
#32 [00:44] <xales> that you log in to minecraft with
#33 [00:44] <[JD]> get the new exe or jar from the website
#34 [00:44] <xales> [JD]: wrong
#35 [00:44] <xales> the exe is just a launcher
#36 [00:45] <[JD]> he updates it sometimes
#37 [00:45] <[JD]> :P
#38 [00:45] <xales> I've never seen the .exe change. anyway
#39 [00:45] <xales> mib_gaww7p: what is your username
#40 [00:46] <mib_gaww7p> why?
#41 [00:46] <xales> I need to check that you actually bought the game
#42 [00:46] <mib_gaww7p> minischro
#43 [00:46] <xales> ok
#44 [00:47] <xales> are you playing in the browser or using the .exe
#45 [00:47] <mib_gaww7p> using the exe
#46 [00:47] <xales> when you run it, you login, correct?
#47 [00:47] <mib_gaww7p> yes
#48 [00:48] <xales> do you click "play offline" at any point?
#49 [00:48] <mib_gaww7p> no
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#51 [00:48] <xales> do you have a firewall or antivirus program?
#52 [00:49] <mib_gaww7p> i had a backup of the jar from alpha that i had on a flash drive and i reverted back to it because i had mods that i didnt like on the beta jar
#53 [00:50] <xales> that would be why it isn't updating then
#54 [00:50] <xales> !reinstall
#55 [00:50] <mib_gaww7p> ok
#56 [00:50] <mib_gaww7p> thanks
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#60 [01:10] <nipper> Anyone here use c10t on centos? And willing to help me figer out how to use it?
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#62 [01:11] <fork> only pen-15
#63 [01:11] <xales> centos ._.
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#65 [01:16] <aetherian> '
#66 [01:16] <aetherian> 'ello mateys
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#72 [01:39] <genshou> okay.
#73 [01:40] <genshou> time for the ol' girl to move to the new apartment
#74 [01:40] <aetherian> o_O
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#76 [01:40] <genshou> my computer doesn't move around much these days
#77 [01:40] <aetherian> aahhh
#78 [01:40] <aetherian> he's back
#79 [01:40] <genshou> in fact the battery wouldn't even survive the trip, in sleep mode
#80 [01:40] <aetherian> haha
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#82 [01:40] <genshou> so I have to shut down :P
#83 [01:40] <aetherian> my old computer was like that
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#85 [01:41] <aetherian> laptop, that is
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#89 [01:54] <aetherian> nice internet, kealps, almost as bad as mine.
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#91 [01:57] <aetherian> so uh
#92 [01:57] <aetherian> minecraft has been running a-ok for a long time now in the same session
#93 [01:58] <aetherian> I full screen it to see a nice view
#94 [01:58] <aetherian> and after a little
#95 [01:58] <aetherian> not responding
#96 [01:58] <CruelNoise> bam?
#97 [01:58] <aetherian> in smp
#98 [01:58] <CruelNoise> aw
#99 [01:58] <aetherian> not bam.
#100 [01:58] <aetherian> BAM!!@@
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#102 [01:58] <aetherian> I keep doing that >.>
#103 [01:59] <aetherian> pressing xchat instead of minecraft
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#106 [02:22] <lemon-rev> wheat when grown turns brown is that correct when its finnished growing ?
#107 [02:23] <xales> I think that means its dead
#108 [02:23] <xales> lol
#109 [02:23] <lemon-rev> wtf nooooo
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#111 [02:23] <lemon-rev> i have verious groups of wheat growing in side a cave but i am trying to tell when its grown so i can hvest it
#112 [02:24] <xales> lemon-rev: minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Wheat
#113 [02:24] <Zer0o> hey guys need some help, bought the game yesterday but still cant get on with my account :/ it says i need to purchase it (which i did, i even got an email from those guys that i purchased it)
#114 [02:24] <xales> Zer0o: paypal?
#115 [02:24] <Zer0o> ya
#116 [02:25] <xales> what username did you buy it under
#117 [02:25] <Zer0o> the one that i registered it? :S how is that important?
#118 [02:25] <lemon-rev> doesnt tell me when its ready for havesting :(
#119 [02:25] <xales> Zer0o: I can check the premium status of it
#120 [02:25] <lemon-rev> oh
#121 [02:25] <lemon-rev> i see now
#122 [02:26] <lemon-rev> under farming is the actuall pic of the wheat in full bloom which is when it turns brown on top
#123 [02:26] <lemon-rev> sweet
#124 [02:26] <xales> Zer0o: your account isn't flagged premium
#125 [02:27] <xales> did you happen to buy a gift code accidentally?
#126 [02:27] <Zer0o> yea i figgured that
#127 [02:27] <Zer0o> nope didnt
#128 [02:27] <xales> go to minecraft.net and click on profile, then look at the bottom of the page
#129 [02:27] <xales> very bottom
#130 [02:27] <Zer0o> just says i could buy more gift codes
#131 [02:28] <xales> the paypal email
#132 [02:28] <xales> double check it
#133 [02:28] <xales> that it is 'minecraft premium account' and not a gift code or something
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#136 [02:46] <aetherian> ahoy thar
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#138 [02:47] <aetherian> hey corn
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#140 [02:49] <ConMan8> hmm
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#143 [02:49] <aetherian> oh.
#144 [02:50] <aetherian> haha.
#145 [02:50] <aetherian> well then,
#146 [02:57] <aetherian> so how be everyone?
#147 [02:58] <aetherian> why come ona server occasionally you'll find a chunk that won't load?
#148 [02:58] <AG_Elias> Because of a bug in the beta client.
#149 [02:58] <aetherian> it cut off a clay supply ;_;
#150 [02:58] <AG_Elias> Just relog
#151 [03:01] <aetherian> workd
#152 [03:01] <aetherian> *works
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#157 [03:07] <aetherian> there needs to be a mod that when you are on fire makes you notice it, but not to the point that you can't see
#158 [03:07] <aetherian> =\
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#160 [03:10] <Kealper> why the hell did i DC like two times in a few sec....
#161 [03:11] <aetherian> wow
#162 [03:11] <aetherian> took you that long to see that?
#163 [03:11] <Kealper> was sleeping
#164 [03:11] <xales> you go to sleep too early
#165 [03:11] <aetherian> I mean what was that, like, an hour ago?
#166 [03:11] <aetherian> yeah.
#167 [03:11] <aetherian> the night is young.
#168 [03:12] <aetherian> sadly, so am I, so coincidentally I'm off to bed to read soon
#169 [03:12] <xales> why do you go to sleep at like 4 and wake up at 8? :/
#170 [03:12] <xales> err, 3
#171 [03:12] <xales> wake up at 3
#172 [03:12] <xales> :\
#173 [03:12] <Kealper> but srsly...i'm on a 100mbit line out of a datacenter....DCs don't happen >.>
#174 [03:12] <aetherian> they do now :O
#175 [03:12] <xales> ircd?
#176 [03:12] <Kealper> probably something with the ircd, yea
#177 [03:13] <lukegb> When in doubt, blame esper
#178 [03:13] <Kealper> lol
#179 [03:13] <lukegb> You're likely to be correct 95% of the time
#180 [03:13] <xales> "Shoulda gotten that ECC ram after all. Then we wouldn't have pissed off Kealper"
#181 [03:14] <Kealper> xD
#182 [03:14] * lukegb cosmic radiation bitflips Kealper offline
#182 [03:14] <xales> who knows?
#183 [03:14] <xales> them cosmic rays love kealper just as much as aetherian does
#184 [03:14] <aetherian> <3 kelly
#185 [03:15] * aetherian waits for the chainsaw to wir
#185 [03:16] <Kealper> hey, 2 DCes in like 2 weeks is not bad....he DCes every other minute lol
#186 [03:16] <xales> lol
#187 [03:16] <aetherian> who does?
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#189 [03:17] <Kealper> you do lol
#190 [03:17] <aetherian> I used to
#191 [03:17] <aetherian> not anymore
#192 [03:18] <aetherian> except
#193 [03:18] <Kealper> yea....speaking of which, did you get a new wireless adapte?
#194 [03:18] <Kealper> adapter*
#195 [03:18] <aetherian> for these mysterious software caused network aborts
#196 [03:18] <aetherian> why do you ask?
#197 [03:19] <aetherian> ohh, I think I may know what you're asking
#198 [03:19] <aetherian> like, why don't I DC now?
#199 [03:19] <Kealper> because you have not DCed hardly at all
#200 [03:19] <aetherian> new computer.
#201 [03:19] <Kealper> oh, gg
#202 [03:19] <aetherian> laptop, to be specific
#203 [03:19] <aetherian> msi GT640 I believe
#204 [03:19] <aetherian> although
#205 [03:20] <aetherian> do you know what these software caused abort means?
#206 [03:20] <aetherian> I think I have an inkling
#207 [03:20] <aetherian> it's a cute inkling too.
#208 [03:20] <aetherian> ink is always cuter when it's young
#209 [03:20] <aetherian> anyway
#210 [03:20] <aetherian> I gotta get to bed
#211 [03:20] <aetherian> I'm spewing forth nonsense
#212 [03:21] <aetherian> and text.
#213 [03:21] <aetherian> I may or may not be on a bit later
#214 [03:21] <aetherian> bit=1-2 hours
#215 [03:21] <aetherian> well actually
#216 [03:21] <Kealper> nap ftw? lol
#217 [03:21] <aetherian> bit=1/0
#218 [03:21] <aetherian> but
#219 [03:21] <aetherian> computers aside
#220 [03:21] <aetherian> and not a nap
#221 [03:22] <aetherian> I'm going to take some (two) steps to my bed (laptops for the win) as my laptop is downloading a big file. when it is done, I may or may not say some nonsense on here before leaving.
#222 [03:22] <aetherian> I guess he missed
#223 [03:22] <aetherian> ghost wars :O
#224 [03:23] <aetherian> ugh, I gotta think up a bad joke before I leave
#225 [03:23] <aetherian> oh oh
#226 [03:23] <aetherian> I know one of the easiest questions
#227 [03:24] <aetherian> "do you like chicken bouillion?"
#228 [03:24] <aetherian> know why it's so easy?
#229 [03:24] <aetherian> because it only has two answers.
#230 [03:24] * aetherian laughs
#230 [03:24] <aetherian> get it?
#231 [03:25] <Kealper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVXIK1xCRpY i learned that song on mah guitar earlier
#232 [03:25] <aetherian> no one laughs (or acknowledges for that matter) my jokes ;_;
#233 [03:25] <aetherian> kealps. do you get it.
#234 [03:25] <Kealper> not at all
#235 [03:26] <aetherian> no?
#236 [03:26] <aetherian> I would have thought you would have,
#237 [03:26] <aetherian> you know
#238 [03:27] <aetherian> chicken boulioun, yes no, boolean...
#239 [03:27] <aetherian> I fail at jokes.
#240 [03:27] <Kealper> aha....aha.......aha........
#241 [03:27] <aetherian> :D
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#243 [03:27] <aetherian> kbai
#244 [03:27] * xales smacks Kealper
#244 [03:28] * xales slaps Kealper around a bit with a large trout
#244 [03:28] * xales slaps Kealper around a bit with a large trout
#244 [03:28] <Kealper> those two words don't even sound alike :/
#245 [03:28] <Solvius> goodmornin, goodafternoon, goodevening and goodnight :)
#246 [03:28] <xales> Kealper: inorite =/
#247 [03:29] <aetherian> they don't?
#248 [03:29] <aetherian> wait...
#249 [03:29] <aetherian> I've been pronouncing them wrong all this time I guess
#250 [03:29] <Kealper> boo-lean/bowl-ee-on
#251 [03:30] <aetherian> I'm looking up sound files to hear myself
#252 [03:31] <aetherian> oh pfft
#253 [03:32] <aetherian> it's like
#254 [03:32] <aetherian> bull ee on |and| bull ee in
#255 [03:32] <aetherian> sounds more or less the same to me
#256 [03:32] <aetherian> don't know where you live.
#257 [03:32] <aetherian> actually, I might
#258 [03:32] <aetherian> but that's besides the point
#259 [03:33] <aetherian> knight
#260 [03:34] <Kealper> night*
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#262 [03:35] <Solvius> I hate sometimes windows, update restart, update restart, update, i feel like a retard
#263 [03:35] <Kealper> i've got windows upset set to only tell me when there is updates
#264 [03:36] <Kealper> fail? windows update set*
#265 [03:36] <Solvius> Win 7, its just still the same shit as win 95 :)
#266 [03:37] <aetherian> kealper.
#267 [03:37] <aetherian> not night.
#268 [03:37] <aetherian> knight. it's like kbai, but knight. as is "okay, then, my fair gentlemen, I not bid you guys a fond farewell as I make the journey back to my bedside, where I will commence the reading of a book"
#269 [03:38] <aetherian> *as in
#270 [03:38] * aetherian is away: hopefully for real this time
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#272 [03:41] <Solvius> children of the corn, hmmm nice movie :)
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#275 [03:48] <He_Who_Slumbers> ...sounds kinda cheesy
#276 [03:48] <He_Who_Slumbers> heh...
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#280 [03:57] <Kealper> i need to get sweet at that song i just learned and record me playing along with it lol
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#284 [04:06] <Kealper> !load debug
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#287 [04:06] <Kealper> !unload debug
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#291 [04:12] <lemon-rev> what you do when yu have a happy skeliton trying to shoot you from a window thats just too high for it to shoot though so it keeps jumping like a jappy hero like it is and while its doing that ignoring the fact that its got a creaper near by trying to spoil its party lol
#292 [04:18] <Kealper> did i just DC again......
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#294 [04:18] <Kealper> no, ok nvm
#295 [04:20] <Kealper> !load debug
#296 [04:20] <Kealper> !unload debug
#297 [04:21] <Kealper> stupid weird parsing....this network needs to comply more to the RFC :/
#298 [04:23] <fork> what
#299 [04:23] <Kealper> the ircd this network uses is flunky
#300 [04:23] <fork> i like milk
#301 [04:23] <Kealper> lol...
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#307 [04:37] <mib_umjvcw> hey, i wanted to try minecraft in browser (the outdatet free version) but only the controls are displayed - sun java is up to date and scripts are unblocked. any suggestions? using firefox 3.6.13 on windows7 enterprise
#308 [04:39] <Kealper> hmm....
#309 [04:39] <Puddles> what do you mean by onle the controls are displayed?
#310 [04:39] <Kealper> the applet is not showing at all i would assume
#311 [04:40] <Puddles> Are you accessing the page at home or are you at some sort of institution (school, work, etc... they might have blocked some ports?)
#312 [04:40] <mib_umjvcw> from home
#313 [04:40] <mib_umjvcw> made a screenshot
#314 [04:40] <mib_umjvcw> brb
#315 [04:40] <Puddles> That's a good start. Upload it somewhere and post the link pls :)
#316 [04:41] <mib_umjvcw> http://www.abload.de/img/unbenannto67h.png
#317 [04:41] <Kealper> totally uninstall Java and then install it again from http://java.com
#318 [04:42] <mib_umjvcw> did it few minutes ago
#319 [04:42] <mib_umjvcw> :/
#320 [04:42] <Kealper> o.o
#321 [04:42] <NothinG> Which did you install?
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#323 [04:42] <NothinG> Oh, wait..I forgot Windows only has one version xD
#324 [04:42] <Puddles> Maybe try switching to another browser, you can for example try the current Firefox 4 Beta
#325 [04:42] * Kealper does not recoomend normal users use nightly beta builds of firefix
#325 [04:43] <Kealper> firefox*
#326 [04:43] <Kealper> dang that entite thing was full of errors lol
#327 [04:43] <NothinG> Did you restart your browser after you installed Java?
#328 [04:43] <Puddles> I'm not talking of the nightly builds but the official release (Beta 7 is it?)
#329 [04:43] <Puddles> It's actually more stable than the current 3.6
#330 [04:43] <mib_umjvcw> ah okay
#331 [04:44] <mib_umjvcw> i tried internetexplorer - it runs
#332 [04:44] <mib_umjvcw> but screw ie :(
#333 [04:44] <Kealper> Fx4 is just nightly-only right now i believe
#334 [04:44] <Kealper> and it's at b10, i use it too lol
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#336 [04:44] <Puddles> im at 4.0b8
#337 [04:44] <Puddles> So there is an official beta release
#338 [04:45] <Puddles> which is quite stable. More stable than 3.6 at least
#339 [04:45] <Kealper> mib_umjvcw: reinstall firefox then, it's not starting the java plugin correctly :/
#340 [04:45] * Puddles approves Kealpers idea
#340 [04:45] <Kealper> oh, didn't know they started doing betas of 4
#341 [04:45] <mib_umjvcw> ok i'll try
#342 [04:45] <mib_umjvcw> thx fpr your help
#343 [04:45] <mib_umjvcw> for
#344 [04:45] <Puddles> They did so quite a while ago :)
#345 [04:45] <Puddles> no problem
#346 [04:45] <Kealper> b9 and b10 are pretty cool
#347 [04:46] <mib_umjvcw> have to go now
#348 [04:46] <mib_umjvcw> bye :)
#349 [04:46] <Ezdaroth> Are portals supposed to work in multiplayer survival? We built a portal, it didn't work. I read that setting hellworld to true in server config would do the trick, but it just seems to toggle the server world between nether and normal.
#350 [04:46] <Puddles> Haven't checked those out so far ^^
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#352 [04:46] <Puddles> Nop, Nether Portals aren't working in multiplayer at the moment
#353 [04:46] <Puddles> And setting the hellworld flag to true will only put the server in nether mode, as you already discovered :)
#354 [04:47] <Puddles> I don't think there's a way to "travel" between Nether and your world on multiplayer atm
#355 [04:47] <Kealper> nope, there is not
#356 [04:47] <OODavo> There might be a mod for it, but I doubt it.
#357 [04:47] <Ezdaroth> Ok, another question: Can you install content mods in a server? Got a multiplayer server with my gf and we'd really like to have something like mo' creatures pack.
#358 [04:48] <Ezdaroth> Even tho this channel doesn't give support for mods.
#359 [04:48] <Puddles> There is a mod called "stargate" though, which will allow you to travel over large distances on your world, if it's only about getting from one place to the other in a fast amount of time
#360 [04:48] <OODavo> There's a stargate mod? ... I should have guessed.
#361 [04:48] <Puddles> Yep, haven't tried it so far though ^^
#362 [04:48] <Puddles> the warp command does the same trick
#363 [04:48] <OODavo> I actually just saw Stargate.
#364 [04:49] <OODavo> It was awesome.
#365 [04:49] <Puddles> SG1?
#366 [04:49] <OODavo> The original film.
#367 [04:49] <Puddles> Nive
#368 [04:50] <OODavo> :)
#369 [04:50] <Kealper> the only Stargate that ever sucked is the new one....SGU....
#370 [04:50] <Kealper> SGU is too much like BSG....too much drama, not enough nerd
#371 [04:50] <Ezdaroth> Or doesn't have to be mo' creatures pack, but is there anything like it for multiplayer survival? The game is getting a little dull and we'd like to have some new content.
#372 [04:50] <OODavo> I think there would be some content mods available. Maybe.
#373 [04:51] <Kealper> Ezdaroth: http://forum.hey0.net
#374 [04:51] <Kealper> Puddles: http://i.imgur.com/CBTwc.png
#375 [04:51] <Puddles> Ezdaroth, check out the forums listed under the comunity area of minecraft.net. With the hey0 server mod, you'll be able to install tons of plugins
#376 [04:51] <Kealper> latest nightly
#377 [04:53] <Puddles> http://i.imgur.com/wTgzX.png
#378 [04:53] <Puddles> current official beta release (4.0b8)
#379 [04:53] <Kealper> i remember seeing that a long time ago :P
#380 [04:54] <Puddles> I don't see a difference xD
#381 [04:54] <Kealper> look at the tabs on mine and yours
#382 [04:54] <Kealper> b10 has the tabs in the chrome of the window
#383 [04:54] <Kealper> (the titlebar)
#384 [04:54] <Puddles> meh
#385 [04:55] <Kealper> and it's called Minefield lol
#386 [04:55] <Puddles> i still miss an area for ff 4.0 to put my bookmark icons without adding an extra bar at the top
#387 [04:55] <Puddles> i bet it also behaves like a minefield :D
#388 [04:56] <Kealper> it's surprizingly stable....i've had fewer crashes running the nightlies than running 3.6
#389 [04:56] <Kealper> and it's BLAZINGLY fast
#390 [04:56] <Puddles> so is 4.0b8 .. at least compared to 3.6 :P
#391 [04:57] <Kealper> yea, Fx4 in general is going to be so much better than 3
#392 [04:57] <Ezdaroth> Puddles: Yeah, hMod seems great, but didn't see any plugins for more creatures, crafting recipes etc. I know the clients would need the textures etc, but isn't there any way to have extra content on server if the clients have it installed?
#393 [04:57] <Kealper> but it's also going to change a TON...so a lot of people are going to flip out when they see it after it gets a "stable" release
#394 [04:58] <Puddles> I wouldn't know of any plugins adding new creatures or items. There are a few plugins letting you add NPCs (Craftizens for example). But you could also wait for tomorrow, Notch is going to release a major update for minecraft, introducing new items, crafting recipes and a new mob
#395 [04:58] <Puddles> Kealper you just discovered my wet dreams :P
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#397 [04:59] <Kealper> Fx4 in the stable release channel? lol
#398 [04:59] <Puddles> No, people flipping @ mozilla because they're not understanding the revolution ^^
#399 [05:00] <Kealper> lol
#400 [05:00] <Ezdaroth> Puddles: Ok, sounds great :) Is there some kind of update roadmap or something?
#401 [05:00] <Kealper> same thing happened to Microsoft when Vista came out
#402 [05:00] <Puddles> Only thing is, Vista was a step in the wrong direction
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#404 [05:01] <Puddles> Ezdaroth, go check out Notch's Twitter @Notch or his private blog, you can read most about the coming updates on there
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#406 [05:01] <Kealper> well, it was a step in the right one...Vista is mile ahead of XP in security, but they just made the UAC thing too annoying for it's own good, and many computers that people were trying to run it on were like on the bare minimum of what could run Vista, so they had a bad experience
#407 [05:01] <Puddles> or Minecraft on Facebook, if you have one
#408 [05:02] <Kealper> miles ahead*
#409 [05:02] * Puddles wants to crown Kealper King of this Channel, for he has seen things as they are
#409 [05:03] <Puddles> I'm not really fond of the whole Cloud-Hype, so I'm a little bit afraid of the next Windows .... as if they needed to release a new Windows every 2 years or so ..
#410 [05:03] <Kealper> i actually used Vista (and liked it, for the most part) when i built my most recent computer a few years back
#411 [05:03] <Kealper> and yea, Windows 8 is going to focus on cloud stuff more....not sure if want
#412 [05:04] <Kealper> (and yes, that is what they are calling it)
#413 [05:05] <Puddles> What annoyed me about Vista was the whole "Hey, it's new Windows! It's not evil, it's a PC! PC's are not evil, go ahead, try it out! It's easy, even Grandma can access the Internet and have Fun! Now it's all about Joy and Companionship!" - Theme ... which sadly made it annoyingly complicated to do such simple things as change the settings of your network ...
#414 [05:05] <Puddles> ..adapter etc...
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#416 [05:06] <Kealper> yea, that's another thing that was not so hot....they switched around things a ton (goes back to my statement about Fx4 in the stable release channel) so power users from the XP days were sitting there going WTF? having to relearn all that stuff they could do so well before
#417 [05:06] <Kealper> it happened to some degree when XP came in to the scene, too
#418 [05:07] <Puddles> Yes, but it's not necessarily about the relearning. That can be fun, but once you discover that you will ALWAYS need 10³³ clicks to click yourself through the whole network and date share settings just to change your IPv4 settings, you get annoyed.
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#420 [05:08] <Kealper> and with windows 7, it got better reception because people were already getting used to Vista's new layout by the time 7 rolled around, and it addressed many things like the ability to set UAC warning levels and such
#421 [05:08] <Kealper> and yea, i agree with that...some things are super annoying to get to
#422 [05:08] <Puddles> Yepp, 7 was definitly again a step in the right direction
#423 [05:08] <Kealper> i've found a love for the start menu search though
#424 [05:08] <Puddles> that IS an awesome tool, agreed
#425 [05:09] <Kealper> press windows key, plunk in "network connections" and press enter, and bam...lol
#426 [05:09] <Puddles> I find myself simply tapping the windows key and typing things like cmd, msconfig, regedit, etc.. in and hitting the enter key without clicking or waiting for anything. very handy
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#428 [05:09] <Kealper> same lol
#429 [05:10] <Kealper> crap...i forgot that i was supposed to be working on aubot....
#430 [05:10] <Puddles> Oh well... I guess I will simply wait for win8, give it a look, and let the whole cloud-hype get murdered by tons of people who don't agree with being online all the time, saving their files on the cloud
#431 [05:10] <Puddles> then get to work, Kealper! >:[ *whips*
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#433 [05:21] <AuBot> hmmmm >.>
#434 [05:22] <AuBot> and now i'm getting spammed with it's timestamps it uses for checking latency -.-
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#438 [05:30] <AuBot> it's was gramatically correct
#439 [05:30] <AuBot> !die
#440 [05:30] <AuBot> figures....
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#445 [05:48] <Kealper> !load mod_nospam
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#448 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Oh boy
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#455 [05:56] <fusshupe> Damn you, IRC! Puddles Nickname was already registered >:[
#456 [05:57] <fogwraith> :|
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#461 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> kay
#462 [06:03] <fogwraith> Mornin' Grey
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#464 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Yo
#465 [06:08] <fogwraith> Seems awfully dead in here today
#466 [06:11] <Kealper> i doubt we'll get hit, it seems to be concentrated at the few bigges channels
#467 [06:11] <Kealper> biggest*
#468 [06:11] <fogwraith> By what? ;P
#469 [06:11] <Kealper> CTCP flood bots
#470 [06:12] <fogwraith> Ah
#471 [06:12] <Kealper> they join, version reques the channel 5 times, then quit
#472 [06:12] <Kealper> why can't i type a t? lol
#473 [06:12] <fogwraith> CTCP floods doesn't do a whole lot, do they? ;P
#474 [06:13] <Kealper> no, not really
#475 [06:13] <fusshupe> What's the point of them anyway
#476 [06:14] <Kealper> probably just some 15 year old who has his older brother's botnet
#477 [06:15] <fusshupe> LOIC mod? XD
#478 [06:16] <Kealper> probably not
#479 [06:16] <Kealper> LOIC is more for attacking websites, this is probably just some Perl script or something....
#480 [06:17] <Kealper> but it's the most inefficent way to attack a network ever...so the guy doing it is definately an amature at irc
#481 [06:17] <fogwraith> Yarrharrharr, game installers in .sh format ftw ;P
#482 [06:17] <Kealper> i could probably do more damage myself in 1 message lol
#483 [06:19] <Solvius> the attack is still going on then ?
#484 [06:19] <fusshupe> i was joking about loic, but i don't get the point in floodbots anyway. I don't get the point of bot network for attacking sites like this one anyway
#485 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Annoyance.
#486 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> It's the same for any bot attack.
#487 [06:19] <fogwraith> LOIC source isn't as popular as the binary it seems, even so, I'll grab the source and have a look at it
#488 [06:20] <fusshupe> If i want to annoy people, I'll hack the site and putup some odl school polka music
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#493 [06:28] <fogwraith> Right, it's a silly program, but I can see why it can do *some* damage
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#501 [07:13] <Kealper> ok...
#502 [07:14] <ConMan8> Hey AuBot, need any help? xP
#503 [07:15] <Kealper> lol
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#508 [07:30] <ManicMiner> I fixed it. World must be called 'world' i.e. change the default and you are screwed.
#509 [07:31] <ManicMiner> Thanks for helping me focus my attention here. Most kind ;)
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#515 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> Wooo, 20 more people in front of me at thesantaclaw.com
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#522 [08:35] <EdgeFR> Hi
#523 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#525 [08:35] <EdgeFR> I have a question, i can't find any link to download minecraft classic.
#526 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> There isn't one
#527 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> It's only through the browser.
#528 [08:36] <EdgeFR> Oo
#529 [08:36] <EdgeFR> with java?
#530 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#531 [08:36] <EdgeFR> i installed it but it still doesn't load. Do you know Why?*
#532 [08:37] <EdgeFR> thanks
#533 [08:38] <EdgeFR> 'kay
#534 [08:38] <EdgeFR> i see
#535 [08:38] <EdgeFR> thanks anyway
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#537 [08:42] <GreyVulpine> Noooooo.. I almost had it!
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#539 [08:48] <Cawkii> hello? anyone here?
#540 [08:48] <Cawkii> Need some help about a refund..
#541 [08:48] <Con> There’s nobody here
#542 [08:49] <Con> The 93 other people are all ghosts
#543 [08:49] <Cawkii> And who are you then?
#544 [08:49] <Con> I’m just a conman
#545 [08:49] * GreyVulpine baps Con
#545 [08:49] <Con> You bapped me?
#546 [08:50] <Con> What’s a bap?
#547 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> Hey Cawkii - http://minecraft.net/support.jsp
#548 [08:50] <Cawkii> Well I need to speak to someone about a refund, I don't seem to be getting any response :@
#549 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> Send an email to payment@mojang.com
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#551 [08:50] <Cawkii> I did that, no reply!!!! :/
#552 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> If you have, CC another email to daniel@mojang.com
#553 [08:51] <Cawkii> Ok, I'll do that then :/
#554 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> Refer back to the email you sent before.
#555 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> !def bap
#556 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> Oh, right, +c
#557 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> !def bap
#558 [08:51] <crickets> 12Word: 16bap
#559 [08:51] <crickets> 12Definitions:
#560 [08:51] <crickets>     10Noun:16 A small loaf or roll of soft bread
#561 [08:52] <GreyVulpine> Um, sure.
#562 [08:52] <GreyVulpine> that dictionary script sucks.
#563 [08:53] <Cawkii> what is crickets saying? :S
#564 [08:53] <mbentley> need an urbandictionary script.. :D
#565 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> I had one...
#566 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> So outdated now, the regex doesn't work anymore
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#568 [09:01] <Cawkii> oh dear, Meowtv2?
#569 [09:01] <Meowtv2> hello
#570 [09:01] <Meowtv2> trying to understand thoses private servers
#571 [09:02] <Cawkii> oh good, I thought you would be advertising something, and yeah they are complicated, haven't they heard of MSN ?
#572 [09:02] <Kealper> O.o
#573 [09:03] <Meowtv2> so far: i can connect to lan by 192.168.x.x but if i put the my real ip => refused to connect, and i rly dont understand why
#574 [09:03] <Kealper> Meowtv2: you have to forward port 25565 to your computer from your router
#575 [09:03] <Kealper> http://portforward.com
#576 [09:03] <Meowtv2> so i tried various help site, but it's like trying to find a tabby in a persian litter
#577 [09:04] <mbentley> Meowtv2: do you mean that you can't connect when using your 'real' (aka - wan) ip address?
#578 [09:04] <Meowtv2> yes, and the PF checker say: ok
#579 [09:04] <Meowtv2> real as in ISP address
#580 [09:04] <mbentley> Meowtv2: i have found that i have issues trying to connect to my own server when i try to use my wan ip address. i have to use the local ip or hostname
#581 [09:05] <Meowtv2> ah! ok ty so i m not alone
#582 [09:05] <mbentley> despite the client and server running on different machines...
#583 [09:05] <Meowtv2> is there like a test channel when you can ask ppl to try join my server?
#584 [09:05] <mbentley> this is pretty much about it
#585 [09:05] <Meowtv2> becayse the play.jsp thing doesnt work
#586 [09:06] <Meowtv2> says: you cant use that method anymore
#587 [09:06] <mbentley> are you running a classic server?
#588 [09:06] <Kealper> !check 85-171-87-115.rev.numericable.fr
#589 [09:06] <Meowtv2> no, beta 1.02 latests
#590 [09:06] <mbentley> just making sure
#591 [09:06] <Meowtv2> oh, do you want me to start it?
#592 [09:07] <Kealper> i wonder if there is a way for aubot to tell the difference between a classic and beta server....
#593 [09:07] <mbentley> if you want us to try to connect, sure :)
#594 [09:07] <Meowtv2> doh!
#595 [09:07] <Meowtv2> btw i use the port 1426 not 25565
#596 [09:07] <Meowtv2> because that port just refuse to work
#597 [09:07] <Kealper> !check 85-171-87-115.rev.numericable.fr:1426
#598 [09:07] <Kealper> not running?
#599 [09:07] <Meowtv2> my config: 3 pc lan W7 behind a router
#600 [09:08] <mbentley> Kealper: what method does it currently use to check?
#601 [09:08] <Kealper> just that it can esstablish a tcp connection
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#603 [09:08] <Meowtv2> do you want me to revert to the port 25565?
#604 [09:08] <Kealper> making a test thing right now that will see if the server responds with any discernable data
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#606 [09:09] <Meowtv2> 1 sec
#607 [09:09] <Kealper> Meowtv2: it really does not matter what port it runs on, as long as it's running on a port
#608 [09:10] <Meowtv2> ok running, and accessible on lan
#609 [09:10] <Kealper> port?
#610 [09:10] <Meowtv2> 25565
#611 [09:10] <Kealper> !check 85-171-87-115.rev.numericable.fr
#612 [09:10] <Kealper> :/
#613 [09:10] <Meowtv2> firewall is down, port is forwarded
#614 [09:10] <Meowtv2> should work
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#616 [09:12] <Meowtv2> is it important that the server runs on this pc, or the others ones?
#617 [09:12] <Meowtv2> for your test
#618 [09:13] <Kealper> whatever computer the port is forwarded to
#619 [09:13] <Meowtv2> oki
#620 [09:13] <Meowtv2> the logic of this things eludes me
#621 [09:13] <Meowtv2> maybe my server.properties is messed up?
#622 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com the server.properties then?
#623 [09:14] <mbentley> if you can connect using the local ip, then the server.properties is fine
#624 [09:14] <Meowtv2> could you direct me to an example of the file that works somewhere?
#625 [09:14] <Meowtv2> oki
#626 [09:16] <Meowtv2> !check
#627 [09:16] <Meowtv2> !check 85.171.87.115
#628 [09:16] <Meowtv2> meh!
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#630 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> Meowtv2 - can you paste the server.properties at pastebin.com?
#631 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> And walk us through your network setup?
#632 [09:17] <Meowtv2> pastebin.com? is this a site?
#633 [09:17] <Meowtv2> 1 sec
#634 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#636 [09:19] <Tyrantos> Uh. Excuse me. I just purchased MInecraft, and whenever i try to join a server i crash the game. Any idae why?
#637 [09:19] <mbentley> what sort of error do you get?
#638 [09:19] <Meowtv2> done
#639 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> Tyrantos - Does it provide you with an error report?
#640 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> Meowtv2 - Paste the link to it here
#641 [09:19] <Tyrantos> Hold on, ill do that.
#642 [09:19] <Tyrantos> And yes, an error report
#643 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> please pastebin.com it
#644 [09:20] <Meowtv2> http://pastebin.com/nML9BY4B
#645 [09:20] <Meowtv2> this?
#646 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes Meat_Boy
#647 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> er, Meowtv2
#648 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> Damn tab
#649 [09:20] <Meowtv2> ::)
#650 [09:20] <Tyrantos> Huh, It seems like its working now after i redownloaded it, but thanks anyways!
#651 [09:20] <mbentley> a number of those options are for classic only
#652 [09:21] <Con> This happens a lot
#653 [09:21] <Con> !server
#654 [09:21] <Meowtv2> ya, that's where i got it
#655 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> Meowtv2 - Yeah, can you delete server.properties, and relaunch the server? It'll generate a new one
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#657 [09:22] <Meowtv2> oki on it
#658 [09:23] <Meowtv2> done and running
#659 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> Hah, there's a guy in the giant claw game pit, adding more balls as people are still playing.
#660 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> !check 85.171.87.115
#661 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Okay, walk us through your network setup Meowtv2
#662 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Start with your computer's internal IP
#663 [09:24] <Meowtv2> the server one is 192.168.1.10
#664 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> Okay, and the router is 1.1?
#665 [09:25] <Meowtv2> yes
#666 [09:25] <Meowtv2> ofc
#667 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> You port forwarded 25565/TCP to 1.10 from that router?
#668 [09:27] <Meowtv2> let me check again
#669 [09:29] <Meowtv2> i supose so
#670 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> You suppose so?
#671 [09:29] <Meowtv2> same syntax as i use for world of warcraft
#672 [09:29] <Meowtv2> so yes
#673 [09:30] <Meowtv2> ok i reseted
#674 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Okay. And on your router's status page, your internet/wan/public ip address is 85.171.87.115?
#675 [09:30] <Meowtv2> yes
#676 [09:30] <Meowtv2> !check 85.171.87.115
#677 [09:30] <Meowtv2> LOL
#678 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Well then.
#679 [09:30] <Meowtv2> ok i think i got it
#680 [09:31] <Meowtv2> setting where no saved :)
#681 [09:31] <Meowtv2> let me try something
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#683 [09:32] <Meowtv2> ok it works now, thank a lot for the help :)
#684 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> You did it all on your own. Glad it works.
#685 [09:33] <Meowtv2> you helped a lot, it was in front of my face, but i couldnt just see it ^^
#686 [09:34] <Meowtv2> btw: if i start like a browser windows on the lan, can i connect to the server too, or, do i need to buy another client?
#687 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> Are you asking if you can connect two clients of the same account to a server?
#688 [09:35] <Meowtv2> on local yes
#689 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> With verify-names to true, no.
#690 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> It will not let you
#691 [09:35] <Meowtv2> altought it s not rly usefull now, that i have that :check thing, that's all i needed
#692 [09:37] <Meowtv2> i v read the minepedia, but is there a way to create commands, like a .add that do "/give myself <x> <n>" ?
#693 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Not without modding the server
#694 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> Or create a macro on your computer with a third-party app.
#695 [09:38] <Meowtv2> do you have a link of a tutorial or exmaple?
#696 [09:38] <Meowtv2> of a simple command
#697 [09:39] <Meowtv2> i supose the language is java , right?
#698 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> To mod your server? It's not exactly a quick process.
#699 [09:39] <Meowtv2> i kind of have some time on my hands :)
#700 [09:39] <Meowtv2> so if there is a language to learn, i m for it
#701 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> No language to learn.
#702 [09:40] <Meowtv2> i runned a ultima online server with sphere for years
#703 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> For beta, the popular one is hey0/hmod. It has kinda recently fallen out of favor though, devs stopped maintaining it.
#704 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> They've moved onto bukkit, a hey0 successor, but have yet to release a version for it yet. It's still in development
#705 [09:41] <Meowtv2> oki but if i google that hey0, maybe it will giveme the bases i need
#706 [09:41] <Meowtv2> right?
#707 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> hey0 still works, mostly..
#708 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> You can find a download for it here:
#709 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=23340
#710 [09:41] <Meowtv2> thx a lot
#711 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> With that, instead of having to do /give yourname id num
#712 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> It's just /give id num
#713 [09:42] <Meowtv2> perfect!
#714 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> or, you can program prepackaged kits
#715 [09:42] <Meowtv2> oki i m going to read this, bbl, and thanks again
#716 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> /kit mining, would give you whatever you programmed for mining
#717 [09:43] <Meowtv2> oki i think i understand
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#719 [09:43] <mejle12> Is there a way for me 2 get help in retrieving my account
#720 [09:44] <mejle12> cause notch wont reply to my messages
#721 [09:44] <mejle12> and i cant play my minecraft.
#722 [09:44] <mejle12> i try 2 log in and it doesnt work.
#723 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> Try emailing daniel@mojang.com
#724 [09:44] <mejle12> ok
#725 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> He's helped a few with that problem so far
#726 [09:44] <mejle12> thanks for the lookout
#727 [09:44] <mejle12> really appreciated.
#728 [09:45] <mejle12> thanks Grey
#729 [09:45] <mejle12> really i owe you one
#730 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> mhmm, g'luck.
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#733 [09:48] <Sun> can help my anyone.... my friend have buy me a code and i can not use him..... i become the message The gift code is incorrect, or has already been used.
#734 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Have him look at his profile on the webpage, it should list all the codes he's bought
#735 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> See if it's been redeemed
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#737 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> If it has, then it's been used up
#738 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> and it'll tell him which account got it
#739 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> if it hasn't, get him to give you the right code.
#740 [09:49] <Sun> ok
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#747 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> O.o
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#755 [10:25] <Xjet> Hi, i'm searching the best server for minecraft with /sethome and so on...
#756 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> This isn't the channel for that. You're looking for either #smp, or http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#757 [10:27] <Xjet> no advise ?
#758 [10:28] <mbentley> i think GreyVulpine gave you some advice
#759 [10:30] <Xjet> looks like there are 97 pages of server...
#760 [10:32] <Xjet> to create my own server
#761 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Indeed, variety.
#762 [10:33] <Xjet> no one is much better than other ?
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#764 [10:33] <Xjet> i've see CoreS, but website under construction
#765 [10:33] <mbentley> that's pretty much subjective
#766 [10:34] <Xjet> i know
#767 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> You get what you look for on public servers, a roll of the dice on whether or not you get crappy admins/players/world.
#768 [10:37] <Steve[cug]> Xjet: if you want something simple, look into McMyAdmin.
#769 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> Nothing's static either, a good server one day, can be griefed the next
#770 [10:37] <Steve[cug]> GreyVulpine: definately
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#772 [10:38] <Indekkusutaku> Would apreciate some help on my connecting to minecraft.net problem, becuase i cant.
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#774 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Indekkusutaku - Can you elaborate?
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#776 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> This a recent development?
#777 [10:38] <Indekkusutaku> I cant connect to minecraft.net in any browser nor through my minecraft.exe, i can ping it from consol however
#778 [10:38] <Indekkusutaku> yes, scince last night
#779 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> What ip address do you get when you ping it?
#780 [10:38] <mbentley> check your hosts file...
#781 [10:39] <Indekkusutaku> it's clan
#782 [10:39] <Indekkusutaku> clean*
#783 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> You're sure?
#784 [10:39] <Indekkusutaku> Yes
#785 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> What ip address do you get when you ping www.minecraft.net?
#786 [10:39] <Indekkusutaku> I looked multipule times
#787 [10:39] <abelkabur> Hello, i´ve bought Minecraft legally on Minecraft.net and payed by Paypal yesterday afternoon. Today i´m getting the message i´m not a premium user. Is there someone who can help me?
#788 [10:40] <Indekkusutaku> 194.28.157.42
#789 [10:40] <Indekkusutaku> And no using that to connect dosent work either
#790 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Indekkusutaku - Any proxy settings on your computer or browser?
#791 [10:40] <mbentley> normally doesn't since they use host headers
#792 [10:40] <mbentley> do you at least get a '502 bad gateway' error?
#793 [10:40] <Indekkusutaku> No, i connect straight through me isp given connection
#794 [10:41] <abelkabur> Hello, i´ve bought Minecraft legally on Minecraft.net and payed by Paypal yesterday afternoon. Today i´m getting the message i´m not a premium user. Is there someone who can help me?
#795 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> abelkabur - Did it work when you bought it?
#796 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> Or hasn't it worked since you bought it?
#797 [10:41] <abelkabur> no it didn´t
#798 [10:41] <Indekkusutaku> No bad gateway error, just wont connect.
#799 [10:42] <Steve[cug]> abelkabur: I would wait till 24hrs after your purchase. if it still doesn't work contact Mojang
#800 [10:42] <Xjet> for mcmyadmin, do donwlaod link anywhere...
#801 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> I'd wait a bit longer, sometimes it takes some time to process your transaction abelkabur
#802 [10:42] <Indekkusutaku> But again, it will ping, which i find strange
#803 [10:42] <Steve[cug]> nm we can do here
#804 [10:42] <abelkabur> i tryed a few times but it said "user is not Premium"
#805 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> Like Steve[cug] said, wait 24 hours.
#806 [10:42] <abelkabur> ok thank you for your help :-)
#807 [10:42] <Steve[cug]> Xjet: google McMyAdmin
#808 [10:42] <mbentley> Indekkusutaku: checked to make sure your browser isn't set up to go through a proxy server?
#809 [10:42] <abelkabur> bye
#810 [10:43] <Indekkusutaku> It's not, nor are the my two non-main browser which i have tried using
#811 [10:43] <Indekkusutaku> Although connect through a web based proxy i can get into minecraft.net
#812 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Windows machine I take it?
#813 [10:44] <Indekkusutaku> Yes
#814 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Can you ipconfig /flushdns?
#815 [10:44] <mbentley> hmm, odd. there must be some sort of issue if you can't even hit the site using the IP
#816 [10:44] <Indekkusutaku> I have it didnt help unfortunatly
#817 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Strange.
#818 [10:46] <Indekkusutaku> I look and my tcpip setting and i have timestamps disabled, which is a fix suggested by a fourmuser, but still it dosent work
#819 [10:47] <ssen> >fourmuser
#820 [10:47] <ssen> say what?
#821 [10:48] <Indekkusutaku> The minecraft fourms, it was done to get around the new DDoS filter becuse removing the timestamp, which is off by default in windows anyways, removes about 16bytes of data from each packet.
#822 [10:49] <Indekkusutaku> I though at first the DDoS filter was what was catching me up but with my ability to still ping the site im not so sure now.
#823 [10:51] <Indekkusutaku> Do any of you have an email address for majhong?
#824 [10:51] <mbentley> support@mojang.com
#825 [10:52] <mbentley> the problem is on your end though
#826 [10:52] <Indekkusutaku> I can see no issue on my end, I can connect to everyother site on the internet except minecraft.net
#827 [10:53] <mbentley> i can connect, you can connect via web proxy
#828 [10:53] <Indekkusutaku> yes, which make me think my ip is hitting a filter they have set up
#829 [10:54] <mbentley> have another pc on your lan you can test with?
#830 [10:54] <Indekkusutaku> I have one downstars yes, and it also wont connect anymore
#831 [10:55] <mbentley> do you get any sort of error message?
#832 [10:57] <Indekkusutaku> Other than, "Cant connect to minecraft.net" in the minecraft.exe and the normal cant connect message in the browser, no.
#833 [11:00] <Indekkusutaku> Well i have to go for now, thank you for the help.
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#835 [11:14] <Caboose_Blu> Hey there.
#836 [11:14] <xales> hello
#837 [11:14] <Caboose_Blu> I seem to be having a rather annoying error with Minecraft. . .
#838 [11:15] <xales> what would that be?
#839 [11:15] <Caboose_Blu> Every time that I login using the .exe for the Beta, the .exe just closes after saying "done loading".
#840 [11:15] <Caboose_Blu> It dl's all of the packages and such.
#841 [11:16] <Caboose_Blu> I've already tried updating my drivers, downloading a new Java, and defragging my computer (though I don't think the last one was supposed to even do anything)
#842 [11:16] <BurnZeZ> Wow. My Grandpa walks in the room, and I tell him about some lame debate some of my friends had on facebook, about iPhone vs Android. I told him about how I ended the debate with this epic comment right? Then he's like, "Quit trollin'"
#843 [11:16] <TrueWolves> ...
#844 [11:17] <TrueWolves> Your Grandpa is awesome
#845 [11:17] <Caboose_Blu> Any advice?
#846 [11:17] <xales> Caboose_Blu: try reinstalling
#847 [11:17] <xales> !reinstall
#848 [11:17] <xales> try playing in browser
#849 [11:17] <Caboose_Blu> Tried playing in browser, it did the same thing.
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#851 [11:17] <Caboose_Blu> Tried re-installing everything Minecraft related, still did the same thing.
#852 [11:17] <xales> alright, I have to go for a bit. GreyVulpine can help though =/
#853 [11:18] <Con> It closed in your browser?
#854 [11:18] <xales> Caboose_Blu: if you only deleted the .exe, that is just a launcher. you have to delete the bin folder
#855 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> You deleted /.minecraft/bin ?
#856 [11:18] <Caboose_Blu> Yeah.
#857 [11:18] <xales> anyway
#858 [11:18] * xales goes afk
#858 [11:18] <Caboose_Blu> Nope, I deleted the bin.
#859 [11:18] <Caboose_Blu> Still does the same thing.
#860 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> Does it just close, without any error reports?
#861 [11:19] <Caboose_Blu> I tried deleting the bin, then I tried just deleting the whole thing.
#862 [11:19] <Caboose_Blu> Yep.
#863 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> -.o
#864 [11:19] <Caboose_Blu> It used to post error reports on my desktop, now it doesn't.
#865 [11:19] <mbentley> do you still have one?
#866 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you do it in the browser?
#867 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> Does it crash the browser?
#868 [11:20] <Caboose_Blu> It says "done loading", blinks white, cuts to black, then the Java applications just dissappears.
#869 [11:20] <Caboose_Blu> Disappears.*
#870 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> Interesting. Do you have the java console open in the browser when this happens?
#871 [11:21] <Caboose_Blu> BRB for just a second.
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#873 [11:21] <Extreme> Hi
#874 [11:21] <Extreme> I've got a little Question
#875 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> Shoot.\
#876 [11:21] <Caboose_Blu> Back.
#877 [11:22] <Extreme> Why u didnt make a Minecraft for the iPod / iPhone.. ?
#878 [11:22] <Caboose_Blu> The console closes as soon as the game "crashes".
#879 [11:22] <TrueWolves> err
#880 [11:22] <TrueWolves> One person made minecraft, and that person isn't here.
#881 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> Because programming ofr the ipod/iphone requires objective-c
#882 [11:23] <Kealper> well, we are not the ones who develope minecraft, and the iPad/iPhone are not powerful enough to play the game
#883 [11:23] <Con> Extreme: This help channel is run by community members, we’re not part of Mojang
#884 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> And minecraft isn't programmed in objective C
#885 [11:23] <Kealper> and what GreyVulpine said
#886 [11:23] <Caboose_Blu> Btw, Grey, the browser doesn't close, the actual window with Minecraft closes on it's own. The internet browser itself stays open.
#887 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> I understand
#888 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> Caboose_Blu - I'm just asking if you get any output from the browser's java console.
#889 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> It might shed some light on what's wrong
#890 [11:24] <Kealper> lol
#891 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> or that..
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#893 [11:24] <Caboose_Blu> Sorry, crashed.
#894 [11:24] <Caboose_Blu> Also, I'm just explaining, sorry if I came off as rude.
#895 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> No prob.
#896 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> Wasn't rude at all
#897 [11:24] <Caboose_Blu> M'kay.
#898 [11:25] <Caboose_Blu> So. . .
#899 [11:25] <Caboose_Blu> What do you think?
#900 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any output from the browser's java console?
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#902 [11:26] <Caboose_Blu> 1 line of text, then Java shuts itself down.
#903 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> What line is that?
#904 [11:26] <Caboose_Blu> It says something like "Caboose_Blu login" then something else that I can't read before it closes.
#905 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> The java console itself closes as well?
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#907 [11:27] <Caboose_Blu> Yes.
#908 [11:27] <Caboose_Blu> I've heard some rumors that the underscore in my name can affect my sign-in, as it is a special character.
#909 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. try a complete uninstall/reinstall of java
#910 [11:27] <Caboose_Blu> M'kay, be right back.
#911 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> Haven't heard of underscores affecting minecraft, exclaimation marks on the other hand.. do.
#912 [11:28] <izzd> Hi, I'm playing smp and get the black screen crash alot, using XP pro 32
#913 [11:29] <mbentley> like how often do you get black screens? right away? after x minutes?
#914 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I gotta run off.
#915 [11:29] * GreyVulpine waves
#915 [11:29] <Caboose_Blu> Goodbye.
#916 [11:29] <izzd> random 5- 30 mins
#917 [11:30] <mbentley> i see the same as well. it's a known issue at the moment
#918 [11:30] <mbentley> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/bwod_black_window_of_death
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#920 [11:33] <izzd> Ok, hopefully fixed soon by a patch!? :-)
#921 [11:33] <mbentley> i hope so
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#923 [11:34] <Con> izzd: What’s your render distance on?
#924 [11:34] <izzd> best quality
#925 [11:34] <Con> Far?
#926 [11:34] <izzd> sec
#927 [11:35] <lukegb> !check toimelin.no-ip.org
#928 [11:35] <izzd> far
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#930 [11:36] <Diablothein> http://www.filehurricane.com/viewerthumbnails/1114200985558AM_UN.jpg
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#932 [11:40] <Caboose_Blu> So. . .
#933 [11:40] <izzd> I'm trying normal now con
#934 [11:40] <Caboose_Blu> Uninstalling Java didn't work.
#935 [11:40] <Caboose_Blu> Anyone have anymore suggestions~?
#936 [11:41] <Caboose_Blu> Hello?
#937 [11:41] <mbentley> hmm...
#938 [11:42] <Caboose_Blu> ?
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#940 [11:43] <mbentley> that is just weird...
#941 [11:43] <mbentley> you said you had crash reports that appeared on your desktop before... do you still have any of them?
#942 [11:44] <Caboose_Blu> Nope.
#943 [11:44] <Caboose_Blu> They've all disappeared.
#944 [11:47] <Caboose_Blu> Be right back, I have to re-start my computer.
#945 [11:49] <Diablothein> Monica Lewinsky walks into a dry-cleaner's and says to the person working there: "I'd like to get this stain removed from my shirt."
#946 [11:49] <Diablothein> But the guy who was working at the time is hard of hearing, so he says: "Come again?"
#947 [11:49] <Diablothein> To which Monica replies: "No, this time it's ice cream."
#948 [11:50] <izzd> i can't join #minecraft ?
#949 [11:51] <mbentley> izzd: you need to be registered with nickserv
#950 [11:51] <izzd> authed?
#951 [11:51] <mbentley> you aren't registered and logged in with nickserv
#952 [11:51] <mbentley> Topic for #minecraft: Register your nickname to be able to talk. More info: /ns help
#953 [11:51] <izzd> I don't know what that is
#954 [11:52] <izzd> ok
#955 [11:52] <mbentley> then type '/ns help'
#956 [11:52] <izzd> thanks
#957 [11:52] <mbentley> np
#958 [11:52] <xolotl> Oh, really! Man, I may join #minecraft again!
#959 [11:52] <xales> mbentley, they can't see the topic when not in the channel
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#961 [11:53] <mbentley> i know
#962 [11:53] <stomper> no one?
#963 [11:53] <mbentley> what?
#964 [11:53] <stomper> No one's at their keyboard
#965 [11:53] <stomper> I've got questions!
#966 [11:54] <xales> ..then ask?
#967 [11:54] <mbentley> and how did you come to that conclusion...
#968 [11:54] <mbentley> lol
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#970 [11:54] <stomper> it says only you me and xales are chatting
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#972 [11:54] <xales> it doesn't know. Mibbit is a piece of shit
#973 [11:54] <mbentley> odd, oh well, there are plenty of people in here
#974 [11:55] <stomper> oh
#975 [11:55] <xales> mbentley: it says people "Idle" who it hasn't seen speak recently
#976 [11:55] <stomper> never used it before
#977 [11:55] <mbentley> ah
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#979 [11:55] <stomper> okay well
#980 [11:55] <stomper> questions
#981 [11:55] <xales> which is retarded seeing as how away functionality is specified in the RFC
#982 [11:55] <stomper> Anyone running Ubuntu?
#983 [11:56] <mbentley> debian
#984 [11:56] <xales> we can help you with ubuntu, I don't personally use it
#985 [11:56] <mbentley> (the older, more stable brother)
#986 [11:56] <Diablothein> Linux, Ubuntu is just a distribution of it.
#987 [11:56] <xales> mbentley: debian on a desktop?
#988 [11:57] <mbentley> debian on a desktop, server, laptop
#989 [11:57] <stomper> Oh well, yeah.
#990 [11:57] <mbentley> <3 debian
#991 [11:57] <stomper> So everything I open minecraft.jar
#992 [11:57] <stomper> it loads
#993 [11:58] <stomper> then closes
#994 [11:58] <stomper> You can see it updating/loading
#995 [11:58] <xales> how did you run it?
#996 [11:58] <xales> double click?
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#998 [11:58] <stomper> yeah
#999 [11:58] <Diablothein> Ehh...
#1000 [11:58] <stomper> java
#1001 [11:58] <xales> don't run it like that
#1002 [11:58] <stomper> sun 6
#1003 [11:58] <xales> and, you need the Sun JVM
#1004 [11:58] <Diablothein> open terminal, navigate to the folder
#1005 [11:58] <Diablothein> run it using the command: java -jar Minecraft.jar
#1006 [11:59] <stomper> yeeeeeah about that
#1007 [11:59] <stomper> are their any good tutorials for learning terminal commands
#1008 [11:59] <mbentley> google for what you are needing to do?
#1009 [11:59] <xales> http://linuxcommand.org
#1010 [11:59] <stomper> Totally green to linux
#1011 [11:59] <mbentley> that i what i always do
#1012 [12:00] <stomper> Of course i could search thousands of meaning articles.
#1013 [12:00] <stomper> Or i could as you people who seems to already know
#1014 [12:00] <BurnZeZ> Alright, so I go back on Facebook, and the dude's still at it. So I made this. http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8210/umadhn.jpg
#1015 [12:00] <mbentley> well if you actually want to learn...
#1016 [12:00] * xales points to the url he linked you to
#1016 [12:02] <mbentley> i'd say about 85-90% of everything i learning while i was in college was obtained by using google
#1017 [12:02] <xales> ^
#1018 [12:02] <mbentley> which is why i usually tell people to google for things
#1019 [12:02] <mbentley> that whole 'give a man a fish, teach him...' thing
#1020 [12:03] <xales> mbentley: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whatever+you+want
#1021 [12:03] <mbentley> :)
#1022 [12:04] <xales> I assume you know of that site? :)
#1023 [12:04] <mbentley> yes
#1024 [12:04] <mbentley> only problem is that one person i used it on thought it was funny instead of an insult :/
#1025 [12:04] <xales> lol
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#1027 [12:04] <mbentley> doesn't quite work as well when you have to explain that... lol
#1028 [12:06] <stomper> yeah. well googling minecraft ubuntu. minecraft black screen ubuntu. linux minecraft closes etc
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#1030 [12:06] <stomper> brought me here
#1031 [12:06] <stomper> so
#1032 [12:06] <stomper> you gets all the questions
#1033 [12:06] <mbentley> well we can help you with errors, for sure
#1034 [12:06] <stomper> so google sayth
#1035 [12:07] <stomper> can i copy paste this error log i have
#1036 [12:07] <stomper> I was trying to run it on wine as well
#1037 [12:07] <mbentley> ^^ definitely a bad idea
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#1039 [12:08] <mbentley> first of all, would be good to make sure that you have the oracle (sun) jre installed and that it is the default java handler
#1040 [12:08] <mbentley> opening a terminal and typing in 'java -version' will help with that
#1041 [12:09] <stomper> command not found
#1042 [12:09] <mbentley> if you have the 'correct' java, it should look like http://pastebin.com/HxgCQzxa
#1043 [12:09] <Diablothein> Did you download it to your downloads folder?
#1044 [12:10] <mbentley> i wouldn't download it...
#1045 [12:10] <mbentley> just use the package from the package manager
#1046 [12:10] <mbentley> so much easier
#1047 [12:10] <Diablothein> I'm talking about Minecraft .jar
#1048 [12:10] <mbentley> ah
#1049 [12:10] <mbentley> :D
#1050 [12:10] <mbentley> anywho, going to lunch...
#1051 [12:10] <xales> stomper: what command did you run
#1052 [12:11] <Diablothein> Also, Ubuntu's update manager takes care of stuff like that.
#1053 [12:11] <xales> "java-version" or "java -version"
#1054 [12:11] <stomper> and then
#1055 [12:11] <xales> we need to know what version of java you have
#1056 [12:12] <stomper> 6.22
#1057 [12:12] <stomper> for ubuntu 10.04
#1058 [12:12] <xales> no, what is the entire line
#1059 [12:13] <xales> paste the second line of output from that command
#1060 [12:13] <stomper> command not found when i use that command in a terminal
#1061 [12:14] <stomper> checked the synaptic
#1062 [12:14] <stomper> says: 6.22-0ubuntu1~10.04
#1063 [12:15] <stomper> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)
#1064 [12:15] <stomper> nevermind
#1065 [12:16] <stomper> java version "1.6.0_22"
#1066 [12:16] <xales> if it says command not found then that is a problem
#1067 [12:16] <xales> what exactly did you type
#1068 [12:17] <xales> it should be java<SPACE>-version
#1069 [12:17] <stomper> yeah
#1070 [12:17] <stomper> that
#1071 [12:17] <stomper> java version "1.6.0_22"
#1072 [12:17] <xales> I don't care about that number
#1073 [12:17] <xales> I need to know what JVM it is
#1074 [12:17] <stomper> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)
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#1076 [12:17] <xales> that still doesn't hlep
#1077 [12:18] <stomper> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode, sharing)
#1078 [12:18] <stomper> that's the only thing in terminal
#1079 [12:18] <xales> if you can't run the java version command, then you will not be able to run minecraft
#1080 [12:18] <xales> stomper: that is what it is supposed to say, why did you say it said command not found? ._.
#1081 [12:19] <stomper> cause i missed the space after java before -version
#1082 [12:19] <xales> ok then
#1083 [12:19] <xales> what folder is Minecraft.jar in?
#1084 [12:20] <stomper> it's at /home/username/downloads/minecraft.jar
#1085 [12:21] <xales> run these commands then
#1086 [12:21] <xales> cd Downloads
#1087 [12:21] <xales> followed by
#1088 [12:21] <xales> java -jar Minecraft.jar
#1089 [12:21] <xales> ^don't miss the spaces =/
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#1091 [12:22] <stomper> and now?
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#1093 [12:23] <stomper> was it supposed to run?
#1094 [12:23] <xales> yes
#1095 [12:23] <stomper> got nothin'
#1096 [12:24] <stomper> oh wait
#1097 [12:24] <stomper> yeah. now it ran but crashed again
#1098 [12:25] <xales> what are the specs of your computer?
#1099 [12:25] <xales> how much RAM, and what graphics card
#1100 [12:25] <stomper> 1.5 gigs ATI integrated
#1101 [12:25] <stomper> like 64 or 128 i don't know
#1102 [12:26] <stomper> it worked when i ran windows
#1103 [12:26] <stomper> so i don't think that's the problem
#1104 [12:26] <xales> eh
#1105 [12:26] <stomper> and i got stuff like Fglxr-installer
#1106 [12:26] <xales> ATI cards don't really work too well on Linux
#1107 [12:27] <stomper> oh
#1108 [12:27] <xales> and that card is really underpowered as it is
#1109 [12:27] <xales> so I'm thinking that is the issue
#1110 [12:27] <stomper> oh
#1111 [12:27] <stomper> lame
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#1113 [12:28] <stomper> thanks for putting up with my newbie-ness tho
#1114 [12:28] <Minimimi> hey :) just a quick question about the gift codes what do they exactly do?
#1115 [12:29] <xales> Minimimi: you buy a gift code then you have a code which is like a CD key
#1116 [12:29] <xales> someone can enter that into their account to make it a premium account
#1117 [12:29] <xales> stomper: no problem
#1118 [12:29] <Minimimi> uh ok so i can give these gift codes to my mates and they can turn their accounts premium
#1119 [12:29] <Minimimi> thanks :)
#1120 [12:30] <stomper> is there anyone that likes looking thru error logs?
#1121 [12:30] <stomper> I got a couple minecraft spat out
#1122 [12:30] <xales> what is the error
#1123 [12:30] <xales> dont paste it here
#1124 [12:30] <xales> pastebin.com
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#1127 [12:33] <stomper> http://pastebin.com/9aLe04Sc
#1128 [12:34] <xales> yeah, that error means your graphics card isn't cooperating
#1129 [12:34] <xales> try posting on the ubuntu forum I guess..otherwise, I have no idea
#1130 [12:35] <stomper> thanks
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#1133 [12:35] <Caboose_Blu> K, I'm back.
#1134 [12:36] <Caboose_Blu> Computer took a bit to start back up for some reason. . .
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#1137 [12:36] <Caboose_Blu> I just tested Minecraft again after uninstalling it and Java, then reinstalling both.
#1138 [12:36] <Caboose_Blu> Minecraft still closes after I login.
#1139 [12:37] <Caboose_Blu> Has anyone else ever had this problem?
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#1141 [12:37] <xales> Caboose_Blu: what OS?
#1142 [12:37] <Caboose_Blu> XP
#1143 [12:37] <xales> what graphics card do you have
#1144 [12:37] <Caboose_Blu> Don't have one, I'm using the onborad.
#1145 [12:38] <xales> what is onboard then :/
#1146 [12:38] <Caboose_Blu> Onboard*
#1147 [12:38] <Caboose_Blu> BRB
#1148 [12:39] <Caboose_Blu> SiS or something like that.
#1149 [12:39] <Caboose_Blu> I can't find anything more than that.
#1150 [12:40] <Caboose_Blu> Should I just post my computer specs?
#1151 [12:40] <xales> do you know how much VRAM it has?
#1152 [12:40] <xales> yeah, do that
#1153 [12:41] <Caboose_Blu> Windows XP - Home Edition, Compaq Presario, AMD Processor Model Unknown, 1.61 GHz, 896 of RAM
#1154 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> 896MiB.. Now there's a nice round number. *boggle*
#1155 [12:42] <Caboose_Blu> ??
#1156 [12:42] <xales> yeah
#1157 [12:43] <xales> that won't be able to run Minecraft very well
#1158 [12:43] <Caboose_Blu> Shit, seriously?
#1159 [12:43] <DopeGhoti> seriously.
#1160 [12:43] <xales> basically everything is too old
#1161 [12:43] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft allocates 1GiB of memory at startup
#1162 [12:43] <xales> the CPU, RAM and graphics card
#1163 [12:43] <xales> all won't be able to handle it
#1164 [12:43] <Caboose_Blu> Well, it's time to go get a new computer than.
#1165 [12:43] <Caboose_Blu> This machine is falling to shit, anyways.
#1166 [12:44] <xales> If you don't need a laptop, get a desktop. You get twice the performance for half the price
#1167 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> the good news is $200-$300 wotrh of computer will seem _amazingly_ modern by comparison
#1168 [12:44] <Caboose_Blu> Maybe I should just save up and get a new computer. . ?
#1169 [12:44] <xales> If you want to play Minecraft, you need to get a new computer. That laptop will not run minecraft
#1170 [12:44] <Caboose_Blu> . . .
#1171 [12:44] <Caboose_Blu> This isn't a laptop.
#1172 [12:45] <Caboose_Blu> It's a POS '04 computer.
#1173 [12:45] <xales> oh, well it has an integrated card
#1174 [12:45] <xales> so it might as well be
#1175 [12:45] <Caboose_Blu> Nyeh. ..
#1176 [12:45] <xales> yeah, anyway. it won't run Minecraft regardless of what you do. You'd have to replace virtually every single component
#1177 [12:45] <Caboose_Blu> Nice.
#1178 [12:46] <Caboose_Blu> Anyone know where I can start selling my stuff (other than Craigslist)?
#1179 [12:46] <xales> I seriously doubt you could sell that for more than $100
#1180 [12:46] <xales> if at all
#1181 [12:47] <Caboose_Blu> Naw, I was planning to sell a Dreamcast, this computer, a crap ton of wires that I have lying around for scrap, and some other stuff.
#1182 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> You'd be better off turning it into a router or other Linux sandbox to dork around with, or donating it to a school or library or something.
#1183 [12:47] <xales> That probably won't get you more than $200 or so
#1184 [12:47] <xales> =/
#1185 [12:47] <Caboose_Blu> Shit.
#1186 [12:48] <Caboose_Blu> Anyone want some 360 games. . ?
#1187 [12:48] <Caboose_Blu> heh heh.
#1188 [12:48] <xales> =\
#1189 [12:48] <Caboose_Blu> Anyone have some suggestions on getting a DECENT computer for cheap?
#1190 [12:49] <xales> Caboose_Blu: when you say cheap, how much do you mean
#1191 [12:49] <Caboose_Blu> Hmm. . .
#1192 [12:49] <Caboose_Blu> Under $235?
#1193 [12:49] <xales> There isn't a way to get a semidecent computer for under $500 :/
#1194 [12:50] <xales> at least, not a fully working one (not secondhand garbage that you could end up wasting your money on for a machine that doesn't boot)
#1195 [12:50] <Caboose_Blu> Oh boy. . .
#1196 [12:51] <Caboose_Blu> Have any suggestions on a machine that would at least get the job done (play Minecraft)?
#1197 [12:51] <xales> Minecraft needs a relatively modern machine
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#1199 [12:51] <xales> which is the same issue, your not going to get away with a bargain computer to run it
#1200 [12:51] <Megumi> hey are there any online servers which one could connect to? :S
#1201 [12:51] <xales> for around $250 you can get a computer that will probably be exactly like the one you have
#1202 [12:51] <xales> Megumi: minestatus.net
#1203 [12:51] <xales> go to that site
#1204 [12:52] <Megumi> rhx
#1205 [12:52] <Caboose_Blu> Can you post a link to the minimum requirements for Minecraft, or just post them directly?
#1206 [12:52] <Caboose_Blu> I get to go look around for a bit and plan this out.
#1207 [12:53] <Caboose_Blu> To be honest, I'm surprised the computer I'm running right now even still works.
#1208 [12:53] <xales> Caboose_Blu: ideally you want a non-integrated ATI or Nvidia card with 512MB ram and a recent model. 2GiB of ram (Don't get a computer with less. it will be a piece of crap) A dual-core processor at least 2.5GHz
#1209 [12:53] <xales> which will probably cost $600-$800
#1210 [12:54] <Caboose_Blu> D:
#1211 [12:54] <Caboose_Blu> TIME TO GET ME A JOB!!
#1212 [12:54] <Caboose_Blu> Places still hire 16-year-olds, right?
#1213 [12:55] <xales> eh, if your 16, ask your parents for a new computer?
#1214 [12:56] <Caboose_Blu> Can't, they're divorced, money is tight blah blah blah etc.
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#1216 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> yeah, if you're 16, you should be able to get a job somewhere
#1217 [12:58] <Caboose_Blu> I would ask for suggestions on that, but I'm about 85% sure that neither of you live in Arizona.
#1218 [12:59] <xales> actually..
#1219 [12:59] <xales> DopeGhoti does
#1220 [12:59] <xales> lol
#1221 [13:00] <Caboose_Blu> Nevermind on that, then.
#1222 [13:00] <Caboose_Blu> But still.
#1223 [13:01] <Caboose_Blu> Dope, do you have any suggestions on where I should apply?
#1224 [13:01] <Caboose_Blu> (For jobs, I mean)
#1225 [13:01] <xales> I have no idea. Talk to your parents about that
#1226 [13:01] <aetherian> the morgue. you can really make a "living" there.
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#1228 [13:02] <Caboose_Blu> *buh dum TISH*
#1229 [13:02] <aetherian> I thought that was spelled with a c?
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#1231 [13:02] <Caboose_Blu> Tish?
#1232 [13:03] <aetherian> yeah
#1233 [13:03] <aetherian> like tisch
#1234 [13:03] <Orolon> hi all
#1235 [13:03] <Caboose_Blu> It's a sound effect, does it matter how it's spelled?
#1236 [13:03] <Caboose_Blu> lol
#1237 [13:03] <Caboose_Blu> Hey there.
#1238 [13:03] <Orolon> does anyone have a good guide on how to play minecraft online handy?
#1239 [13:03] <aetherian> yes it does
#1240 [13:03] <aetherian> !tutorial
#1241 [13:03] <Caboose_Blu> . . . Okay, then.
#1242 [13:03] <aetherian> haha
#1243 [13:04] <Orolon> no, i mean like with friends on the same world
#1244 [13:04] <xales> Orolon: also, http://minecraftwiki.net
#1245 [13:04] <xales> Orolon: join a server
#1246 [13:04] <aetherian> what's the difference between online and single player?
#1247 [13:04] <Orolon> xales: i want to put on my own, just for me and some friends
#1248 [13:04] <xales> Orolon: how many friends?
#1249 [13:04] <Orolon> up to 4
#1250 [13:05] <xales> if its less than 5, its not worth going through setting up a server =/
#1251 [13:05] <aetherian> it isn't?
#1252 [13:05] <Orolon> ^^
#1253 [13:05] <aetherian> since when?
#1254 [13:05] <xales> Orolon: its much easier if you just join an existing server, and run off with your friends to your own corner of it
#1255 [13:06] <xales> there are numerous problems with running one yourself at home, such as not having a computer able to do it, not having a network connection that can handle it, and not being online 24/7
#1256 [13:06] <Orolon> alright
#1257 [13:06] <aetherian> xales, why would he need to be on 24/7 if they are all in the same time zone?
#1258 [13:06] <Orolon> where can i find servers to join? :D
#1259 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> Caboose_Blu: re: jobs: Circle-K? QT? Grocery stores? McBurger King? Taco Hell? Wendy's?
#1260 [13:06] <xales> Orolon: minestatus.net or minecraftforum.net or mcserverlist.net
#1261 [13:07] <mbentley> http://minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1014
#1262 [13:07] <mbentley> #smp
#1263 [13:07] <Orolon> alright thanks
#1264 [13:09] <aetherian> rofl
#1265 [13:10] <aetherian> mbentley
#1266 [13:10] <aetherian> #smp ?
#1267 [13:10] <aetherian> yeah right
#1268 [13:10] <mbentley> that's just what i've heard...
#1269 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> Yes, #smp
#1270 [13:11] <aetherian> that place is dead
#1271 [13:11] <aetherian> mainly
#1272 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> You're probably better off with the forums though
#1273 [13:11] <aetherian> except for some guy I'm talking with right now
#1274 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> As aetherian mentioned.
#1275 [13:13] <Caboose_Blu> I'm off to go and apply at places and. . . Stuff.
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#1277 [13:13] <Caboose_Blu> Thanks for the help!
#1278 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> Caboose_Blu - How'd it go?
#1279 [13:14] <aetherian> haha
#1280 [13:14] <DopeGhoti> wow.
#1281 [13:14] <aetherian> <3
#1282 [13:14] <DopeGhoti> This is literally the first time I've seen anyone actually _take_ the advice of "get a job".
#1283 [13:14] * GreyVulpine blinks and reads back
#1283 [13:14] * DopeGhoti truly wishes Caboose_Blu good luck.
#1283 [13:15] <mbentley> well it's good advice :D
#1284 [13:15] <DopeGhoti> Faith-In-Humanity-O-Meter has risen 0.04%.
#1285 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> That much?
#1286 [13:15] <aetherian> wow
#1287 [13:15] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: generally, yes, but it's so ill-received.
#1288 [13:15] <aetherian> that makes it a whopping 0.1 percent
#1289 [13:15] <aetherian> :OOO
#1290 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> I've had to allocate a long long to my percentage. It's that low
#1291 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: 0.04% of current value, not of total possible value.
#1292 [13:16] <aetherian> oh.
#1293 [13:16] <aetherian> that makes it still 0.001.
#1294 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> I still have less than one picofaith..
#1295 [13:17] <aetherian> heh
#1296 [13:18] <aetherian> my faith in humanity only drops below 1% for brief periods of time
#1297 [13:18] <aetherian> feigned optimism with a hint of rage ftw
#1298 [13:18] <aetherian> :D
#1299 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> ttants: faith, hope.
#1300 [13:18] <aetherian> ttants?
#1301 [13:18] <aetherian> who?
#1302 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> things that are not the same.
#1303 [13:19] <aetherian> haven't heard the term before.
#1304 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> haven't either
#1305 [13:19] <DopeGhoti> Now you have :)
#1306 [13:19] <DopeGhoti> ONE OF USSSSS
#1307 [13:19] <aetherian> no I t
#1308 [13:19] <aetherian> ack
#1309 [13:19] <aetherian> typefail
#1310 [13:19] <aetherian> so why are you called dope fish?
#1311 [13:20] <DopeGhoti> Because I used to be just 'Ghoti', but then others had the same idea I did, so I had to pick something more unique to avoid nick collisions.
#1312 [13:20] <aetherian> hmm
#1313 [13:20] <aetherian> you may be "on" to "something"
#1314 [13:21] <aetherian> *badum tisch*
#1315 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> Also, it flowed better when I was DJing.. "DJ DopeGhoti" had better flow than "DJ Ghoti"
#1316 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: rather than trying to transliterate effects, try just "*rimshot*"
#1317 [13:21] * xales slaps DopeGhoti around a bit with a large, wet aetherian
#1317 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> ttants: rimshot, rimjob
#1318 [13:21] <aetherian> eugh
#1319 [13:21] <aetherian> um
#1320 [13:21] <aetherian> I did just take a shower I guess
#1321 [13:22] <feenyx> I imagine DJ Ghoti would sound like "DJ Goaty" or "Goatee"
#1322 [13:22] <aetherian> nonono
#1323 [13:22] <aetherian> ghoti is pronounced "fish"
#1324 [13:23] <feenyx> obviously
#1325 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> I've answered to that, but.. ^that.
#1326 [13:23] <aetherian> yes obviously, feeny
#1327 [13:24] <aetherian> g2g
#1328 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> not so obvious, sadly. I get asked a lot whether 'Ghoti' is pronounced "Go Tea" or "Got E" (to which I answer, "No.").
#1329 [13:26] <xales> I want someone in #minecraft to spam something
#1330 [13:27] <xales> I have a list of ban/kick reasons now
#1331 [13:27] * xales was bored so wrote down some epic ones
#1331 [13:27] <xales> "Welcome to bannytown. Population = you"
#1332 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> that's allegedly epic?
#1333 [13:28] <mbentley> yay b& camp
#1334 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> bampersand camp?
#1335 [13:29] <xales> DopeGhoti: and more
#1336 [13:29] <xales> that was the first one on my list
#1337 [13:30] <xales> I'm stealing from XKCD for the next few,(and from TestDummy), but "You should have scrolled all the way to the bottom before clicking 'Agree.'" and "Bangarang, motherfucker"
#1338 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: the fact that the user has been added to the banlist already fairly clearly implies that ey is banned. Perhaps making the ban reason a reason and not a presumably witty one-liner would be of more utility.
#1339 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> jsut sayin'.
#1340 [13:31] <xales> DopeGhoti: generally, the people blatantly doing something retarded
#1341 [13:31] <xales> get funny ban reasons
#1342 [13:31] <xales> the guy who joins and goes
#1343 [13:31] <xales> OMG AUHSHFDHUIHFAHSFAFHAUFHS
#1344 [13:31] <xales> OMG AUHSHFDHUIHFAHSFAFHAUFHS
#1345 [13:31] <xales> OMG AUHSHFDHUIHFAHSFAFHAUFHS
#1346 [13:31] <xales> like that
#1347 [13:31] <xales> gets one
#1348 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> right.. '/ban jerkface!spamsalot@example.com Spamming gibberish' would be reasonable
#1349 [13:32] <xales> Bans don't have reasons
#1350 [13:32] <xales> kicks do
#1351 [13:32] <xales> http://pastebin.com/xPRLpRF8
#1352 [13:32] <xales> ^real example
#1353 [13:33] <mbentley> lol @ 21:42 < xales> FG10: you say /quit
#1354 [13:33] <xales> >=D
#1355 [13:33] * DopeGhoti sits corrected.
#1355 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> it's been a while.
#1356 [13:36] <Diablothein> Two cups, one drink.
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#1360 [13:43] <Perth> Hey. Ive got a problem. The game says my video driver isnt enough and I cant find an update for mine even if my damn life depended on it -.-
#1361 [13:44] <xales> What is the video card?
#1362 [13:44] <Perth> So im either to dumb to find one or there isnt one in which case I dont know what to do
#1363 [13:44] <Perth> RADEON X600 series
#1364 [13:44] <mbentley> http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx
#1365 [13:45] <mbentley> 1.) desktop graphics 2.) radeon x series 3.) radeon x6xx series 4.) pick your os
#1366 [13:45] <xales> that card is really, really old. if updating the driver doesn't work, you probably won't be able to play Minecraft on it
#1367 [13:45] <xales> mbentley: that series of card came out in 2002 =/
#1368 [13:46] <mbentley> still should be able to run minecraft. maybe not well, but if you turn down the settings...
#1369 [13:46] <mbentley> if i can play on this crappy integrated intel graphics on low settings, that ought to be able to
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#1371 [13:46] <Perth> Alright, thanks alot for the help.
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#1373 [13:46] <Perth> Ill see what I can do
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#1379 [13:59] <Ackmey> Hey can anyone help with some server issues?
#1380 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Just tell us what your problrem is
#1381 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> problem*
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#1384 [14:00] <Ackmey> I run my server on the same comp I use to play, never had any problems with it until the PvP release and since then it's been unplayable; huge lag, 15 second chat delays, chunks load insanely slowly etc. I just tried it on a different computer with lower specs and the server runs great (MC itself lags though, like I said the comp is less good)
#1385 [14:00] <Ackmey> I'm stumped
#1386 [14:01] <xales> What are the specs of your computer
#1387 [14:01] <kalbany> I'm trying to set up my server over wifi, I've had it work in the past when it was wired, but now I can't set it up on wifi. I have a static ip set up correctly I think, and when I try to forward the port it says its not open
#1388 [14:01] <Ackmey> 4gb Quad core @ 2.8ghz xales
#1389 [14:01] <xales> kalbany: running a server on wifi in general is a very bad idea. Also, the static IP would have to be reset for the wireless adapter
#1390 [14:02] <xales> Ackmey: run the server on your computer and look at CPU usage
#1391 [14:02] <Ackmey> Will do
#1392 [14:02] <xales> if it periodically drops to 0, its a harddisk one
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#1395 [14:03] <Ackmey> xales, 12% usage
#1396 [14:03] <xales> darkdisk problem*
#1397 [14:03] <xales> hard**
#1398 [14:03] <kalbany> How would I reset the static ip for the adapter?
#1399 [14:03] <kalbany> ive tried every address that I see in ipconfig for the port forward
#1400 [14:04] <xales> kalbany: is the wireless router
#1401 [14:04] <xales> an all-in-one with the main router/modem
#1402 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Well, you're using wireless, so what does the wireless heading say in ipconfig?
#1403 [14:04] <kalbany> no it connects to the modem through a separate cable
#1404 [14:05] <kalbany> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Kyle>ipconfig Windows IP Configuration Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::59cd:476d:bafd:f88c%18 IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
#1405 [14:05] <xales> what did you set the IP address to
#1406 [14:06] <xales> for the wired connection
#1407 [14:06] <kalbany> the static? 192.168.1.2
#1408 [14:06] <xales> when you made it static
#1409 [14:06] <xales> Ackmey: no idea
#1410 [14:06] <xales> kalbany: I think the issue is that your running it on wifi, which is an extremely bad idea
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#1412 [14:06] <willnellis> hello?
#1413 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1414 [14:06] <kalbany> ok, my main desktop is wifi and I can't really move it, so I guess I'll just use another wired comp I have and try a remote desktop
#1415 [14:07] <willnellis> ok wellif anyone can hep me
#1416 [14:07] <willnellis> my server isnt alloing me to connect
#1417 [14:07] <willnellis> because of my firewall
#1418 [14:07] <willnellis> im using little snitch but i dont have any protections against minecraft set uup on it but its still not allowing me to
#1419 [14:07] <willnellis> do anything
#1420 [14:07] <xales> willnellis: turn the firewall off
#1421 [14:07] <willnellis> howww
#1422 [14:08] <kalbany> If I have an old computer sitting around, like 8 years old, if I ran a linux distro on it could it still be good enough to run a server?
#1423 [14:08] <willnellis> i only want to turn of the minecraft stuff not my other firwall stuff
#1424 [14:08] <kalbany> just for like 4 people
#1425 [14:08] <xales> kalbany: seriously unlikely
#1426 [14:08] <xales> how much RAM and what CPU
#1427 [14:08] <willnellis> ?
#1428 [14:08] <Perth> right thanks peeps it worked
#1429 [14:08] <xales> willnellis: turn the firewall all the way off, otherwise I can't hel pyou
#1430 [14:08] <Ackmey> Wow, and all of the sudden my server starts working - I didn't even change anything, and I've been trying for months every time a new version comes out...
#1431 [14:09] <Perth> Take care
#1432 [14:09] <xales> Perth: you too
#1433 [14:09] <willnellis> how do i turn it off
#1434 [14:09] <kalbany> not much at all, I'll just use a different desktop which is much better but isn't going to be completely dedicated
#1435 [14:09] <kalbany> thanks
#1436 [14:09] <kalbany> bye
#1437 [14:09] <xales> willnellis: what firewall is it
#1438 [14:10] <willnellis> im using little snitch
#1439 [14:10] <xales> willnellis: uninstall it then
#1440 [14:11] <xales> if you need to run a firewall like that, you shouldn't be running a server
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#1442 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Woo, I'm next up in thesantaclaw.
#1443 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Got back home just in time
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#1454 [14:53] <Jorc> Hi
#1455 [14:54] <Ackmey> Hey can anyone help me with my server? It's getting 5-15 second lag with only one person connected, it used to run fine until PvP release, and runs fine on a laptop I have with lower specs than this comp... I'm beat
#1456 [14:54] <xales> Ackmey: do you have any mods installed?
#1457 [14:54] <Ackmey> Nope
#1458 [14:54] <Ackmey> Periodically it'll stop lagging for 1-2 mins
#1459 [14:54] <xales> and its a Survival server, correct?
#1460 [14:54] <Ackmey> yes
#1461 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Antivirus?
#1462 [14:55] <Jorc> hey when I try and type in #minecraft it says "Cannot send to channel" anyone know why?
#1463 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Are you running any other CPU intensive apps
#1464 [14:55] <Ackmey> Hmm I have avast, Ishall I try disabling it?
#1465 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Jorc - It's +M
#1466 [14:55] <xales> Jorc: read the topic
#1467 [14:55] <Ackmey> nope nothing else is running
#1468 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> You need a registered name
#1469 [14:55] <Jorc> ah ofc. thanks
#1470 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> No. As long as you're not running a scan right now
#1471 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> It shouldn't be that
#1472 [14:55] <Ackmey> okay
#1473 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Is it just you lagging?
#1474 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Is it Graphical lag? (Press f3 to check FPS)
#1475 [14:56] <Ackmey> No, it's server lag my fps is fine
#1476 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Is it CPU? (Check task manager/processes)
#1477 [14:56] <Ackmey> And anyone who connects lags
#1478 [14:57] <xales> Ackmey: check hard disk speed. http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe
#1479 [14:57] <xales> download that and run a benchmark
#1480 [14:57] <Ackmey> CPU is fine
#1481 [14:57] <Ackmey> okay xales
#1482 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> How's your internet speed?
#1483 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Any changes to your bandwidth?
#1484 [14:57] <Ackmey> Nope
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#1486 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Are you throttled? QoS? packet shaped?
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#1488 [14:57] <kalbany> can somebody try to connect to 67.84.80.39
#1489 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> !check 67.84.80.39
#1490 [14:58] <Ackmey> Benchmark is running xales
#1491 [14:58] <kalbany> showed the attempt
#1492 [14:58] <Jorc> herro
#1493 [14:58] <xales> kalbany: then it should work
#1494 [14:58] <kalbany> k
#1495 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> I'll connect, one sec
#1496 [14:58] <Jorc> Thanks Grey. Registered now
#1497 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Works kalbany
#1498 [14:59] <kalbany> thanks
#1499 [14:59] <kalbany> i had it on wireless before and was having trouble
#1500 [14:59] <kalbany> set it up on a few year old wired comp
#1501 [15:00] <kalbany> wont connect from this computer
#1502 [15:00] <kalbany> this is on wifi on the network the host is wired to
#1503 [15:00] <xales> try using your public IP
#1504 [15:00] <kalbany> i did
#1505 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> @Batcatgamer - What are going to happen when it reaches 1 mil sales? @Notch - The web site will become one byte larger
#1506 [15:00] <Ackmey> Erp weird the HD benchmark just started showing a big downward trend, that normal?
#1507 [15:01] <kalbany> nvmd
#1508 [15:01] <kalbany> works now
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#1510 [15:01] <LG_Legacy> Badger
#1511 [15:01] <Ackmey> Was averaging probably about 125mb/s and now it's around 70
#1512 [15:02] <Ackmey> okay it finished, average is 110
#1513 [15:02] <Ackmey> access time 13.8 ms
#1514 [15:02] <xales> Ackmey: the downward trend might mean the disk is having issues, um
#1515 [15:02] <xales> go to the file benchmark tab
#1516 [15:02] <xales> and run that
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#1518 [15:03] <Ackmey> file benchmark tab? Don't see
#1519 [15:03] <xales> eh, which tabs do you see? I'm running from memory
#1520 [15:03] <consolecowboy> having an issue with minecraft running for about 30 seconds, then the process spiking to 99% cpu and locking up. im on arch linux 64 bit, made sure i had the sun jre, drivers updated, decent video card
#1521 [15:04] <Ackmey> Benchmark, Info, Health, Error scan,
#1522 [15:04] <Ackmey> Benchmark is what I just did
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#1524 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> "999295 people bought the game"
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#1526 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Yay, 700 more to go
#1527 [15:05] * mbentley wants the super sweet cape!!!
#1527 [15:05] <crank13371337> Hey guys, i cant change my email, what can i do?
#1528 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> crank13371337 - Log into the website, go to profile
#1529 [15:05] <tiba666> is that normalt at a minecraft.exe use like 60-70% of a cpu my cpu is intel core 2 quad q9550 2,83ghz o.O
#1530 [15:05] <Ackmey> xales, Ran an error scan nothing bad to report
#1531 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> tiba666 - That's fairly normal
#1532 [15:06] <xales> crank13371337: what do you mean you can't change it?
#1533 [15:06] <mbentley> that's java for you...
#1534 [15:06] <xales> Ackmey: I don't think its a disk error then, hmm
#1535 [15:06] <xales> run a virus scan maybe?
#1536 [15:06] <crank13371337> i click on "Click here to change your email address" and then a it says "Changing email address has been temporarily disabled!"
#1537 [15:06] <crank13371337> what can i do`?
#1538 [15:06] <Ackmey> sure
#1539 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Then all you can do is wait.
#1540 [15:07] <Ackmey> But I doubt it's that, seeing as I've had this problem for months
#1541 [15:07] <crank13371337> Hmm, okay..thanks
#1542 [15:08] <Ackmey> what range should server memory usage be in?
#1543 [15:08] <tiba666> greyvulpine wow is fun is take so much o.O
#1544 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
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#1546 [15:09] <xales> Ackmey: under 1gb
#1547 [15:09] <xales> also, are you using the .exe or .jar
#1548 [15:09] <Ackmey> Okay mine's at 49mb
#1549 [15:09] <britwarlord> Can anyone give me assistance for a "Minecraft has crashed" error please?
#1550 [15:10] <xales> britwarlord: what is the error
#1551 [15:10] <xales> pastebin.com it
#1552 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> Ackmey - That's normal for one person connected to a serveer
#1553 [15:10] <Ackmey> Okay
#1554 [15:11] * Ackmey sighs
#1554 [15:11] <xales> generally, assume 100mb per player and you should be good
#1555 [15:12] <Ackmey> Okay
#1556 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> As long as they're not all exploring new areas at once, generating all sorts of fun chunks
#1557 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> all in seperate directions
#1558 [15:13] <mbentley> would be fun to get a massive server and just start exploring in all directions to see if you can bring the mightiest server to its knees :D
#1559 [15:13] <britwarlord> ok
#1560 [15:13] <mbentley> like with a crapload of people
#1561 [15:13] <Ackmey> Well can I assume the problem is hardware related seeing as this works fine on a different computer?
#1562 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Just localized to that machine, sure.
#1563 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> It could be hardware, it could be software running on it
#1564 [15:13] <xales> britwarlord: you have to give us the URL
#1565 [15:13] <Ackmey> yeah
#1566 [15:14] <britwarlord> http://pastebin.com/9RnwfhR7
#1567 [15:14] <britwarlord> Tried reinstalling Java, did nothing.
#1568 [15:14] <xales> britwarlord: do you have any mods installed?
#1569 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> Nope. Input == null is a windows error
#1570 [15:14] <xales> or texture packs
#1571 [15:14] * GreyVulpine shakes
#1571 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> Your windows username
#1572 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Does it, or did it have an (!)
#1573 [15:15] <britwarlord> it did
#1574 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> You changed it, correct?
#1575 [15:15] <britwarlord> Yes
#1576 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, your user folder still has a !
#1577 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> limitation of windows
#1578 [15:15] <britwarlord> Because I heard about the problem java has with !
#1579 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Right
#1580 [15:15] <britwarlord> Ok
#1581 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> The only way, right now, to get around that, is to make a new windows account
#1582 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> install minecraft on that, and play it
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#1584 [15:16] <britwarlord> That'll be fine
#1585 [15:16] <britwarlord> Thanks.
#1586 [15:16] <mattrtion> test
#1587 [15:16] * GreyVulpine nods
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#1588 [15:16] <xales> mattrtion: test
#1589 [15:16] <mattrtion> ta
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#1591 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> ... okay then.
#1592 [15:17] <xales> he probably can't figure out why he can't talk in #minecraft
#1593 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1594 [15:17] <xales> and didn't think to, ya know, ask
#1595 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. what is the limit 525?
#1596 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> in #MineCraft?
#1597 [15:17] <xales> uhh 600 I think
#1598 [15:17] <xales> why?
#1599 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Um no
#1600 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Check again
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#1602 [15:18] <mattrtion> just tried to join #minecraft for the first time. Can't actually talk in it :s
#1603 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> mattrtion - You need to have a registered nick
#1604 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> /ns help register
#1605 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> or:
#1606 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> /ns register password email
#1607 [15:19] <mattrtion> for talking in #minecraft?
#1608 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1609 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> +M is set.
#1610 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Only registered members can talk
#1611 [15:19] <mattrtion> oh gosh
#1612 [15:19] <xales> and /topic
#1613 [15:19] <mattrtion> the horrors of irc are coming back to me now
#1614 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> You haven't seen the recent bot attacks
#1615 [15:20] <mattrtion> i guess its a popular channel
#1616 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> At least nobody's running fservs in #minecraft
#1617 [15:20] <mbentley> ...yet :D
#1618 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> I'd have to kill somebody
#1619 [15:20] <mbentley> sssh don't give anyone any ideas
#1620 [15:20] * GreyVulpine looks at mbentley.
#1620 [15:20] <mattrtion> fservs eh...
#1621 [15:21] * mbentley whistles innocently
#1621 [15:21] <xales> fserv = bot = ban
#1622 [15:21] <mattrtion> ah bum it
#1623 [15:22] <mattrtion> i've spelled my name wrong
#1624 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> /nick
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#1626 [15:23] <mattrtion> cheers, saves me hunting
#1627 [15:23] <mattrtion> excitement
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#1629 [15:24] <Thibaud> actuall version crashed in multiplayer very often known bugs avaible or do i have to search the problem on my own pc?
#1630 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Thibaud - Could you pastebin.com the error?
#1631 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Maybe we could narrow it down for you
#1632 [15:24] <consolecowboy> any known issues with frezing on linux for the beta? newish nvidia card, 64 bit
#1633 [15:25] <mbentley> not specifically. it actually runs better for me on debian sid 64 bit...
#1634 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> consolecowboy - How does it freeze? Does it lock up? Does it black screen?
#1635 [15:25] <Thibaud> what should i actually do, java runtime engine just crashed several times
#1636 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Thibaud - Do you get any sort of meaningful error?
#1637 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> If not, reinstall java
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#1639 [15:25] <consolecowboy> GreyVulpine: locks up, process is at 99% cpu after about 30 seconds of it playing fine
#1640 [15:25] <Thibaud> (win 7, but high end gaming pc)
#1641 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> Thibaud: if the JRE itself is crashing, you should have some error messages to share.
#1642 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> consolecowboy: OpenJDK or Oracle Java JRE?
#1643 [15:26] <Thibaud> i'll see for it next time
#1644 [15:26] <Phayze> someone want to help me figure out where to get the IP of my server so i can get friends to join it?
#1645 [15:26] <consolecowboy> jre, made sure of that after i saw the openjdk causes problems
#1646 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Phayze - whatismyip.com
#1647 [15:26] <mbentley> <3 .org
#1648 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> consolecowboy: what version?
#1649 [15:27] <consolecowboy> DopeGhoti: 6u23
#1650 [15:27] <Phayze> hmmm ok i got the ip but cant connect...
#1651 [15:27] <xales> Phayze: did you port forward?
#1652 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Phayze - Are you sure you've got everything port forwarded correctly?
#1653 [15:27] <mbentley> opened the port in your router and forwarded it to the server?
#1654 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> damn ninja.
#1655 [15:28] * mbentley steps back
#1655 [15:28] <Phayze> i dont think so... i did a port forward yesterday and it killed my internet and had to sys restore
#1656 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> How did you port forward?
#1657 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Could you walk me through the steps you did?
#1658 [15:28] <Phayze> i went to a site xales told me to go to. i think portforward.com?
#1659 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Alright...
#1660 [15:29] <Phayze> yeah that site
#1661 [15:29] <Phayze> i did the static ip thing first
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#1663 [15:29] <Phayze> and that killed my net
#1664 [15:29] <xales> you did it wrong then
#1665 [15:29] <Phayze> hmm
#1666 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Phayze - Okay, could you start with what OS you're on?
#1667 [15:30] <Phayze> win7 x64
#1668 [15:30] <mbentley> probably tried to assign an ip to the wrong subnet...
#1669 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Windows+R to bring up the run command -> cmd
#1670 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> then ipconfig at the cmd prompt
#1671 [15:30] <Phayze> was about to do that o.O
#1672 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> What is your computer's internal ip right now?
#1673 [15:31] <Phayze> the Ipv4?
#1674 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1675 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> As well as the default gateway
#1676 [15:31] <consolecowboy> DopeGhoti: i have a few other things i could try. could try the dev channel which is like 7-something, or go back to 5, or try the 32 bit version. this is all assuming it's jre's fault. from the research i have done i havent found anyone with a similar issue and i have scoured logs to find something useful and come up with nothing
#1677 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> protip: In Windows 6.0 and 6.1, Win+R isn't needed; you can just tap Win and type 'cmd' and press enter :)
#1678 [15:31] <Phayze> 192.168.1.62 which is local ip and default is 192.168.1.254
#1679 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> further protip: you can press C-A-S-Enter to get an Admin-elevated prompt.
#1680 [15:32] <xales> DopeGhoti: super protip, you can press sysrq-i for cool things to happen
#1681 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Phayze - And you went to http://192.168.1.254 ?
#1682 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> xales: Not in Windows. Nothing cool happens in Windows, no matter what you do.
#1683 [15:32] <xales> DopeGhoti: of course not
#1684 [15:33] <Phayze> to access my router?
#1685 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> unless $what_you_do is insert a real OS's installation media
#1686 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes Phayze
#1687 [15:33] <Phayze> yeah
#1688 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Did you port forward in here?
#1689 [15:33] <Phayze> umm
#1690 [15:34] <Phayze> im not sure? :/
#1691 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Care to give us a screenshot? Or look for a "Port forward" option?
#1692 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Or "Virtual server" option
#1693 [15:34] <Phayze> hmmm i really was i was still on time warner... i dont know at&t's router at all... give me a sec
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#1695 [15:37] <Phayze> hmm should i turn off the firewall to my computer?
#1696 [15:37] <quittix3> hey i need help
#1697 [15:38] <quittix3> when ever i play minecraft beta single player, it lags really bad when it loads chuncks of ground
#1698 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Phayze - That would help in diagnosing the problem, yes.
#1699 [15:39] <xales> that is likely because your computer can't handle Minecraft, quittix3
#1700 [15:39] <xales> how much RAM does it have
#1701 [15:39] <quittix3> me and my brothers computers are identical but mine is slow and his is fast
#1702 [15:39] <xales> what CPU, graphics card, etc
#1703 [15:39] <quittix3> 1500mb of ddr1 ram with windows 7, 3.4ghz single core intel pentium 4 processor, and a 512mb graphics card
#1704 [15:39] <mbentley> could be you have some processes running in the background as well..
#1705 [15:40] <Phayze> hmmm the portfoward site is using a really out of date version of the at&t router...
#1706 [15:40] <xales> quittix3: what else do you have open when you play minecraft
#1707 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> 1.5 GiB for Windows 7? There's your problem, right there.
#1708 [15:40] <xales> oh, windows 7. yup
#1709 [15:40] <xales> not enough ram
#1710 [15:40] <mbentley> that and it is ddr1
#1711 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Phayze - If you'd like you can post screenshots of your router's setup page
#1712 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Or have one of us remote to your computer and walk you through it
#1713 [15:41] <Phayze> that would work
#1714 [15:41] <quittix3> my brother only has 1000mb of ddr1 ram with windows 7 and a single core intel pentium 4 2.8ghz cpu
#1715 [15:41] <Phayze> how do i do that?
#1716 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Which option are you referring to/
#1717 [15:41] <quittix3> and he runs windows 7 just fine, fast
#1718 [15:41] <Phayze> walk through via remote access
#1719 [15:41] <xales> quittix3: but does he run minecraft?
#1720 [15:41] <quittix3> but i just dont get why mine is slow
#1721 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> I'd recommend TeamViewer myself, have used it numerous times.
#1722 [15:41] <quittix3> yes
#1723 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> http://www.teamviewer.com/index.aspx
#1724 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> quittix3: Minecraft allocates 1GiB of memory at startup
#1725 [15:42] <quittix3> well i got 1gb for it
#1726 [15:42] <Phayze> give me a sec to download
#1727 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> Windows itself takes nearly 1 GiB, so you're already talking swap
#1728 [15:42] <quittix3> lol no it doesnt
#1729 [15:42] <Phayze> yes it does
#1730 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it does
#1731 [15:42] <mbentley> depends...
#1732 [15:42] <quittix3> i had windows 7 running on 512mb of ram
#1733 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> "running" *snrk*
#1734 [15:42] <xales> ^
#1735 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> more like staggering
#1736 [15:42] <quittix3> and the only thing my computer takes is ddr1 :P
#1737 [15:42] <mbentley> windows 7 can run on much less... at idle, my windows 7 system used ~350mb of ram
#1738 [15:43] <quittix3> nah running just fine, i could do it right now
#1739 [15:43] <xales> quittix3: you probably should get a new computer then, if you want minecraft to not lag when loading chunks
#1740 [15:43] <xales> its probably just an IO fail
#1741 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Phayze - You can run TeamViewer from the installer, there's an option for that.
#1742 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to actually install it
#1743 [15:43] <quittix3> but what could cause this?
#1744 [15:43] <Phayze> just finished installing
#1745 [15:43] <Phayze> what do i do now?
#1746 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Or that will work as well
#1747 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Run it, PM one of us with details
#1748 [15:43] <xales> quittix3: the fact that your computer has significantly out-of-date hardware
#1749 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> There should be two boxes of numbers, a 9 digit ID, and a 4 digit password
#1750 [15:44] <quittix3> my brothers is identical and his flys
#1751 [15:44] <quittix3> he has less ram and cpu
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#1753 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> quittix3: if I took the engine from a VW Rabbit and dropped it into a Ferarri Enzo, it would still run like shit.
#1754 [15:44] * aetherian is away: Download_Error
#1754 [15:44] <quittix3> wut?
#1755 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> You're trying to take your VW Rabbit onto the NASCAR circuit. You will get lapped.
#1756 [15:45] <quittix3> my computer isnt bad at all really
#1757 [15:45] <xales> ...yes it is. if its using RAM that was outdated in 2004, its bad
#1758 [15:45] <mbentley> Of course, I can get a hell of a good look at a T-Bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it.
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#1760 [15:45] <quittix3> anyone here ever played oblivion?
#1761 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> Yes, back in 2006.
#1762 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> (or whenever it came out)
#1763 [15:46] <quittix3> i remember my first computer.. 700mhz processor, i got oblivion to run on it
#1764 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> (the point being, that it was _years ago_)
#1765 [15:46] <xales> "run" *snrk*
#1766 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> again, "run" *snrk*
#1767 [15:46] <quittix3> my brother got it so rigged up that it was able to run it
#1768 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> I got Doom "running" on my 386 back in the day too.
#1769 [15:46] <xales> I can "run" just about anything, just not reasonably
#1770 [15:46] <xales> if it hangs at the main menu, its still "running"
#1771 [15:46] <xales> ;)
#1772 [15:47] <DopeGhoti> xales: in circles, but yes.
#1773 [15:47] <quittix3> windows 7 takes 1% of my 3.4ghz single core cpu or less so yea...
#1774 [15:47] <xales> quittix3: the CPU isn't the issue. although, single core. bad
#1775 [15:47] <quittix3> what does all this mean? :
#1776 [15:47] <quittix3> single core is only thing it says it takes
#1777 [15:47] <xales> because its old
#1778 [15:47] <xales> get a newer computer lol
#1779 [15:47] <quittix3> but i bought this one D:
#1780 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> quittix3: Get another 3GiB of RAM and get back to us.
#1781 [15:48] <xales> 3GiB of modern ram
#1782 [15:48] <quittix3> it only takes 2gb of ddr1 ram max
#1783 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft will continue to need truckloads of RAM until and unless it's optimized
#1784 [15:48] <xales> quittix3: then your motherboard is too old. buy a new computer
#1785 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> and that won't happen until it's feature-complete.
#1786 [15:48] <quittix3> O_o minecraft doesnt take that much ram lol
#1787 [15:48] <xales> actually, it does
#1788 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> again
#1789 [15:49] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft allocates _1GiB_ at startup
#1790 [15:49] <xales> DopeGhoti: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~moose/sysadmin/pricelist.html
#1791 [15:49] <Phayze> !check 99.120.169.185
#1792 [15:49] <quittix3> physical memory(mb) total: 1535 cached: 743 Available: 996 Free 296
#1793 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> xales: I'm totally stealing that.
#1794 [15:50] <xales> DopeGhoti: do so
#1795 [15:50] <quittix3> is that bad or good?
#1796 [15:50] <xales> quittix3: bad
#1797 [15:50] <quittix3> D:
#1798 [15:50] <xales> it means windows will start swapping Minecraft
#1799 [15:50] <quittix3> whats bad about it?
#1800 [15:50] <xales> because windows is om nom nomming it for stupid precaching or whatever
#1801 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> that means you have 296MiB of free memory available. When Minecraft allocated the 1 GiB, welcome to Swappytown; population: You
#1802 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> s/allocated/allocates/
#1803 [15:51] <quittix3> no... i have 1292 ram free
#1804 [15:51] <xales> DopeGhoti: linuxatemyram.com too
#1805 [15:51] <xales> quittix3: no, you don't. thats not how the cache works on windows
#1806 [15:51] <quittix3> my available + free is 1292
#1807 [15:52] <xales> You need free memory, not available memory
#1808 [15:52] <xales> available memory is allocated but not in use, IIRC
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#1811 [15:52] <quittix3> whats available? D: why is it takeing that?
#1812 [15:52] <xales> because windows is using it, as we said
#1813 [15:52] <quittix3> can i make it stop using 1gb of my ram for no reason?
#1814 [15:52] <xales> no
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#1816 [15:53] <xales> get a better computer and get more RAM
#1817 [15:53] <quittix3> windows isnt taking 1gb of ram tho O_o
#1818 [15:53] <xales> yes, it is
#1819 [15:53] <bearpew> Hello, is there anyway I can make my computer focus all of its work on minecraft or would that give the same effect as canceling all other programs running?
#1820 [15:53] <quittix3> ill look it up
#1821 [15:53] <xales> bearpew: that is the same thing as closing all other programs
#1822 [15:54] <bearpew> shieeeeeet, I'm screwed then. GOGO 5 fps
#1823 [15:54] <bearpew> thanks anyway :):):) XOXO
#1824 [15:54] <quittix3> ok here it is
#1825 [15:54] <mbentley> you can set priority to processes for a tiny increase...
#1826 [15:54] <quittix3> * Total is the amount of RAM installed on your computer, listed in megabytes (MB). * Cached refers to the amount of physical memory used recently for system resources. * Available is the total of standby and free memory from the Resource Monitor. * Free is the amount of memory that is currently unused or doesn't contain useful information (unl
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#1828 [15:55] <mib_p1ajkd> hello
#1829 [15:55] <quittix3> it says available is standby ram that can be used :O
#1830 [15:55] <xales> hello
#1831 [15:55] <xales> quittix3: used, but not preallocated
#1832 [15:55] <quittix3> im confused
#1833 [15:55] <quittix3> so can i use it or is it wasting it?
#1834 [15:56] <xales> quittix3: programs can use it but not preallocate it
#1835 [15:56] <mib_p1ajkd> i have a nividia geforce 6600 got recent drivers, opengl 2.0, and opengl 4.0 still get a bad driver error when tring to run minecraft
#1836 [15:56] <quittix3> whats preallocte mean?\
#1837 [15:56] <xales> quittix3: reserve it for later use
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#1839 [15:56] <quittix3> how can i make it use its ram right and not waste it?
#1840 [15:56] <Phayze> !check 99.120.169.185
#1841 [15:56] <xales> mib_p1ajkd: a 6600 may not be able to run it
#1842 [15:57] <xales> quittix3: you can't
#1843 [15:57] <mib_p1ajkd> hmm
#1844 [15:57] <quittix3> like whats the minimum or ram windows can have til it dies?
#1845 [15:57] <quittix3> of
#1846 [15:57] <xales> it uses the minimum at all times
#1847 [15:57] <xales> it won't use more than it needs
#1848 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> quittix3: that depends on how much hard drive space you have
#1849 [15:57] <quittix3> what is the minimum?
#1850 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> when it runs out of RAM, it uses the hard drive as virtual RAM
#1851 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> which is S-L-O-W-E-R
#1852 [15:57] <xales> EXTREMELY slower
#1853 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> which is why, when you run Minecraft (which neads truckloads of RAM), is it S-L-O-W on your machine
#1854 [15:58] <quittix3> does anyone know exactly how much ram windows 7 takes?
#1855 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> There is nothing you can do that does not involve upgrading your hardware.
#1856 [15:58] <mbentley> there isn't an answer to that quetsion
#1857 [15:58] <quittix3> so how did my brother do it? :O
#1858 [15:58] <mib_p1ajkd> i downloaded minecraft from another computer.....transfered it to this 1 which has the 6600 it would work for a bit then crash/freeze...when i try to download it on this PC "w/6600" i get bad drivers error
#1859 [15:58] <mbentley> *question
#1860 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> quittix3: short answer: all of it.
#1861 [15:58] <xales> mib_p1ajkd: what is your username
#1862 [15:59] <quittix3> hes like god with computers
#1863 [15:59] <quittix3> somehow he makes his awesome, anything i touch and it becomes stupid for no reason
#1864 [15:59] <xales> quittix3: he probably turned the settings down...
#1865 [15:59] <quittix3> how do i do that?
#1866 [16:00] <mbentley> might be easier to ask him?
#1867 [16:00] <quittix3> he doesnt know
#1868 [16:00] <xales> open minecraft
#1869 [16:00] <xales> go to options
#1870 [16:00] <mbentley> then he couldn't have done anything that magical
#1871 [16:00] <xales> turn render distance to "low"
#1872 [16:00] <xales> and graphics to "fast"
#1873 [16:00] <quittix3> its still slow
#1874 [16:00] <DopeGhoti> wow, we have a genuine bogon emitter.
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#1876 [16:01] <quittix3> its not slow when i stand still
#1877 [16:01] <xales> quittix3: then your computer cannot handle running the game
#1878 [16:01] <xales> the only way to fix this is to buy a new computer
#1879 [16:01] <xales> what do you not understand about that?
#1880 [16:01] <quittix3> its just slow loading chuncks of the map, when he loads the game everything loads instantly
#1881 [16:01] <xales> so? the problem is the same
#1882 [16:01] <quittix3> he didnt have to get a new computer
#1883 [16:02] <quittix3> could my computer be over heating or something?
#1884 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> he's Neo; you're not.
#1885 [16:02] <quittix3> i have heat sinks on my ram
#1886 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> he has seen the code beneath the code, and can bend reality to his will in his proximity
#1887 [16:02] <mbentley> could be that there are some background processes eating system resources
#1888 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> you cannot, so you have to make do with getting better hardware.
#1889 [16:02] <mbentley> could be you have malware on your system
#1890 [16:02] <quittix3> no processes are slowing it down
#1891 [16:03] <xales> quittix3: if you want help, stop saying we are wrong about everything
#1892 [16:03] <xales> try to cooperate somewhat
#1893 [16:03] <quittix3> both of our computers are clean new installs of windows 7
#1894 [16:03] <xales> you are the one asking for help
#1895 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> That, or axe Windows 7, and install a copy of xubuntu that will only barely be swapping instead of floundering neck-deep in swap
#1896 [16:03] <quittix3> i tried ubuntu and broke it on accident and it was hard to use
#1897 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> so, apparently, is the Shift key.
#1898 [16:04] <quittix3> somehow i merged the folder with all your stuff and the desktop
#1899 [16:04] <mbentley> if they are both identical systems with fresh installs, then there is likely to be something wrong
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#1901 [16:04] <taddertott> hello
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#1904 [16:04] <quittix3> same motherboard graphics card power supply
#1905 [16:04] <xales> hello taddertott
#1906 [16:05] <taddertott> i am unable to download minecraft can anyone /help?
#1907 [16:05] <SuperDrops> Hey guys
#1908 [16:05] <xales> taddertott: what happens when you try?
#1909 [16:05] <xales> hello, SuperDrops
#1910 [16:05] <quittix3> only things different is ram, hard drives and processor
#1911 [16:05] <taddertott> 1 sec
#1912 [16:05] <xales> quittix3: then one of those is the issue
#1913 [16:06] <xales> and the only way to fix this is to buy a better computer
#1914 [16:06] <taddertott> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1915 [16:06] <quittix3> ...
#1916 [16:06] <xales> taddertott: did you update your video card drivers?
#1917 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> taddertott: what video card have you?
#1918 [16:06] <taddertott> but i have updated the drivers
#1919 [16:06] <quittix3> my brother is able to run it flawlessly
#1920 [16:06] <SuperDrops> This will probably make me sound incredibly stupid, but can anyone tell me how to play Multiplayer in Minecraft? Like how it works and things I should know?
#1921 [16:06] <xales> what is the video card?
#1922 [16:06] <taddertott> Nvidia Geforce 6600
#1923 [16:06] <xales> SuperDrops: it is just like single-player but it has other people
#1924 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> quittix3: then play on your brother's computer, which is obviously better than yours.
#1925 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> and quichterbitchin
#1926 [16:07] <quittix3> my computer is able to play way better games than minecraft, it struggles with certain things
#1927 [16:07] <xales> taddertott: I've heard of people not being able to run it on that card, it could be an issue with it
#1928 [16:07] <taddertott> ; ;
#1929 [16:07] <quittix3> i have an ati graphics card
#1930 [16:07] <xales> quittix3: apples to oranges. Minecraft is not (other game). Just because its graphics style is old doesn't mean its not more intensive
#1931 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> the 'certain things' that it struggles with are probably why it's stuggling with Minecraft.
#1932 [16:07] <SuperDrops> How do I join a game/find servers to play on?
#1933 [16:07] <xales> SuperDrops: minestatus.net
#1934 [16:08] <xales> click multiplayer from the main menu
#1935 [16:08] <xales> type in the IP
#1936 [16:08] <mbentley> taddertott: update your drivers at http://www.nvidia.com
#1937 [16:08] <taddertott> i read that the 6600 supports opengl version 2.0 and thats what minecraft needs
#1938 [16:08] <taddertott> i did already bentley
#1939 [16:08] <taddertott> latest version....tried past versions also
#1940 [16:09] <SuperDrops> Thanks guys. I know I just probably made a total idiot of myself, but I'm horribly illiterate at online Multiplayer gaming
#1941 [16:09] <mbentley> odd. try to remove the current drivers first?
#1942 [16:09] <quittix3> hey can ou check this out, its my motherboard, exact one: http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.la.asp?Model=P4VM890
#1943 [16:09] <taddertott> that part i dont get
#1944 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> The 6600 supports minecraft, I've got a 6600gt that runs it just fine
#1945 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I'm back.
#1946 [16:09] <xales> quittix3: YOUR COMPUTER CAN NOT RUN MINECRAFT. STOP BITCHING PLEASE
#1947 [16:09] <taddertott> wb
#1948 [16:09] <quittix3> yes it can...
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#1950 [16:09] <xales> I can't make this any more clear
#1951 [16:10] <xales> If you want to complain, this is NOT the place
#1952 [16:10] <taddertott> xales...lol
#1953 [16:10] <quittix3> its identical to my brothers and he can run it, i guess noone here can help
#1954 [16:10] <xales> it is not identical
#1955 [16:10] <taddertott> ok Gray what did you do to make your 6600 work?
#1956 [16:10] <quittix3> ?
#1957 [16:10] <xales> clearly, if it was, it would work
#1958 [16:10] <xales> it has a different CPU, harddisk, etc
#1959 [16:11] <taddertott> if it matters im running the xp OS
#1960 [16:11] <quittix3> only processor and ram
#1961 [16:11] <quittix3> and mine are better than his
#1962 [16:11] <xales> we told you the issue, which is that your computer can't run it. If you know the answers to everything already, why do you need our help?
#1963 [16:11] <quittix3> i dont get how he is doing this, he can start up and play minecraft normally and no lag at all with only 1gb of ddr1 ram
#1964 [16:12] <quittix3> but i dont nkow the anser, we cant figure out whats making mine lag
#1965 [16:12] <xales> did you try buying a new computer?
#1966 [16:12] <taddertott> ok then im tired of messing with the 6600 to much of a head ache....which video card would you recomend for minecraft?
#1967 [16:12] <mbentley> both of you playing on single player?
#1968 [16:12] <mbentley> multiplayer?
#1969 [16:12] <quittix3> could it be the speed of my ram? like mhz?
#1970 [16:12] <quittix3> single player
#1971 [16:12] <xales> taddertott: just about anything modern
#1972 [16:12] <mbentley> taddertott: depends on your budget
#1973 [16:12] <taddertott> lol
#1974 [16:13] <taddertott> yeah it is an old video card
#1975 [16:13] <mbentley> 460's are a decent card for the $$
#1976 [16:13] <xales> quittix3: the solution is to buy a new computer. what more do you want
#1977 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> taddertott - Can you post a dxdiag at pastebin.com ?
#1978 [16:13] <quittix3> i think it says the mhz on my ram is 166mhz
#1979 [16:13] <mbentley> ig wiw
#1980 [16:13] <taddertott> thank you everyone for the help
#1981 [16:13] <mbentley> *oh wow
#1982 [16:13] <mbentley> that is some slow ddr
#1983 [16:13] <quittix3> or 199mhz i think
#1984 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: No such thing as PC199 RAM.
#1985 [16:14] <taddertott> get a new Video card (b'.')b
#1986 [16:14] <quittix3> my 512mb sitck is less mhz than my 1gb
#1987 [16:14] <xales> quittix3: that is the problem then, as we have been telling you
#1988 [16:14] <consolecowboy> well switching to the 32 bit jre didnt fix the freezing issues, still stays at 71 fps for about 30 seconds then locks up
#1989 [16:14] <mbentley> they i would hope that they are running at the lowest common speed
#1990 [16:14] <mbentley> otherwise you could be getting hella bad mem errors
#1991 [16:14] <taddertott> need at least 1 gb of ram from what i have read to run the game
#1992 [16:14] <quittix3> would it work better if i had 2 identical 1gb sticks of ram?
#1993 [16:15] <mbentley> maybe
#1994 [16:15] <taddertott> it shoud
#1995 [16:15] <taddertott> should*
#1996 [16:15] <quittix3> i spent 40$ on a 1gb stick of ddr1
#1997 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> quittix3: possibly, but mainly because 2 GiB is more than 1.5 GiB
#1998 [16:15] <taddertott> i have tried different types of ram and then got a conflict from it
#1999 [16:15] <mbentley> quittix3: borrow your brother's ram
#2000 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> and as we've been saying for the last half-hour, _you need more RAM at the very least_
#2001 [16:15] <mbentley> try that
#2002 [16:15] <taddertott> so i always try to make sure the ram i use is the same type
#2003 [16:15] <quittix3> he only has 2 sticks of ddr1 ram
#2004 [16:16] <quittix3> 512mb each
#2005 [16:16] <mbentley> borrow it to just try it out before you buy new ram...
#2006 [16:16] <quittix3> and he runs minecraft fast
#2007 [16:16] <taddertott> that should work
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#2009 [16:16] <mbentley> no point in wasting money on new ram if it won't help
#2010 [16:16] <taddertott> later all
#2011 [16:16] <quittix3> he doesnt like for me to touch his computer :/
#2012 [16:16] <mbentley> then have him do it
#2013 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> gee, I wonder why
#2014 [16:17] <quittix3> before i only had 768mb of ram with windows 7
#2015 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> and I bet that "ran" *great*!
#2016 [16:17] <quittix3> yep
#2017 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> *facepalm*
#2018 [16:17] <quittix3> no slowness at all
#2019 [16:18] <quittix3> D: i can take out my 1gb stick and start my computer up with only 512mb of ram
#2020 [16:18] <quittix3> i think... would that work?
#2021 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> Yes. We were completely wrong. You have _too much_ RAM. Take some out and it'll run better, just like before.
#2022 [16:18] <mbentley> your computer would start
#2023 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> Give that a try and get back to us, mkay?
#2024 [16:18] <mbentley> would it run well? big negative
#2025 [16:18] <xales> quittix3: try running with onboard ram
#2026 [16:18] <xales> take out both sticks
#2027 [16:18] <xales> then try
#2028 [16:19] <quittix3> ok brb
#2029 [16:20] <quittix3> im gonna start up my computer with 256 mb of ram andn come back
#2030 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> next on #minecrafthelp - cooking with paint chips- more than just for color!
#2031 [16:20] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2031 [16:21] <xales> GreyVulpine: we coulda used you ther
#2032 [16:21] <xales> e
#2033 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Uh
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#2035 [16:22] * GreyVulpine reads up.. and facepalms
#2035 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> trekkie1701c: of all the Enterprises, you picked C? *shrug* How can #minecrafthelp assist you today?
#2036 [16:22] * GreyVulpine sighs.
#2036 [16:22] <trekkie1701c> I'm just lurking, and also because it wasn't exploded by a bird of prey :P
#2037 [16:22] <xales> why does he sound borderline troll to me
#2038 [16:22] <KillSpammer> Beep
#2039 [16:22] <KillSpammer> Omg...
#2040 [16:22] <xales> Grey, if he comes back and says it runs perfectly on 256mb, please /kick
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#2042 [16:22] <KillSpammer> Exploding birds?
#2043 [16:23] * GreyVulpine twitches
#2043 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> trekkie1701c: actually, it was, which is why the Khitomer Accords happened, but this isn't #startreksperglords, so I'll just leave that there.
#2044 [16:23] <trekkie1701c> :P
#2045 [16:23] * KillSpammer Gives GreyVulpine a cookie
#2045 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> (not to disparage Trek geeks like himself, just trying not to derail again already)
#2046 [16:24] * KillSpammer With an exploding bird in it :)
#2046 [16:24] * xales puts a portable derailer beneath DopeGhoti
#2046 [16:24] <KillSpammer> Dude...
#2047 [16:24] <KillSpammer> Seriously WoW has gotten much better now
#2048 [16:24] <KillSpammer> It actually has some good quest storys
#2049 [16:24] <trekkie1701c> I work with a Star Trek MMO, it'd be hard to disparage me with trek-related things :P
#2050 [16:25] <KillSpammer> Instead of mindless kill 20 of this demon and report back...
#2051 [16:25] <KillSpammer> Its morel ike
#2052 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> I don't think that word means what you think it means.. :)
#2053 [16:25] <trekkie1701c> Which word? :P
#2054 [16:25] <KillSpammer> Go fucking kill 1000 night elves with this god damn epic catapult
#2055 [16:26] * GreyVulpine kicks KillSpammer with a review of WoW from Zero Punctuation
#2055 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> KillSpammer: would you please stop living up to your name? Thanks.
#2056 [16:26] <KillSpammer> :S
#2057 [16:26] <KillSpammer> I cannot.
#2058 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> Who even brought up World of WarQuest anyhow?
#2059 [16:26] <KillSpammer> Lol
#2060 [16:26] <KillSpammer> Me?
#2061 [16:26] <KillSpammer> Ohshit i'm doing it again.
#2062 [16:27] <KillSpammer> Someone *facepalm* me
#2063 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> it's getting to the point where I'll settle for /ignoreing you.
#2064 [16:28] <KillSpammer> I don't know why you take some much offence with my flooding nature :(
#2065 [16:29] * GreyVulpine twitches
#2065 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> you're like the Sarah Palin of IRC: no self-awareness whatsoever.
#2066 [16:29] <KillSpammer> Stop twitching
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#2068 [16:29] * xales twitches
#2068 [16:30] <mbentley> 999953...
#2069 [16:30] <KillSpammer> What?
#2070 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> Focus, KillSpammer, focus.
#2071 [16:30] <KillSpammer> Focus what master, tell me!
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#2073 [16:32] <KillSpammer> 8 more to 1million
#2074 [16:32] <KillSpammer> 4!
#2075 [16:32] <KillSpammer> 2
#2076 [16:32] <KillSpammer> 1
#2077 [16:32] <V2Blast> wat
#2078 [16:32] <KillSpammer> 1million and 1
#2079 [16:33] <KillSpammer> 1 Million sales of minecraft
#2080 [16:34] <CorneliousJD|Work> why can't i talk in #minecraft?
#2081 [16:34] <CorneliousJD|Work> i'm registered and identified?
#2082 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> It's +M
#2083 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Ar eyou sure?
#2084 [16:34] <CorneliousJD|Work> yes.
#2085 [16:34] <xales> its +m for a minute
#2086 [16:34] <xales> you can talk now
#2087 [16:34] * GreyVulpine kicks xales
#2087 [16:34] <xales> we had +m to stop spam from OMG 1 million!!!!!!111imdumb
#2088 [16:34] <mbentley> :D
#2089 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#2090 [16:35] <Ronjoe> lawl
#2091 [16:35] <Ronjoe> grats on thinking ahead
#2092 [16:35] <CorneliousJD|Work> haha :P
#2093 [16:35] <CorneliousJD|Work> makes sense
#2094 [16:35] <xales> well, that guy hasn't come back yet DopeGhoti
#2095 [16:35] * DopeGhoti changes the topic of #minecrafthelp to: Help for the _game_, not for the _channel_.
#2095 [16:35] <xales> so we may have succeeded in our prayer of him zapping his ram
#2096 [16:36] * GreyVulpine changes topic to !kick DopeGhoti day.
#2096 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Once for every sale.\
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#2098 [16:41] <nolstradomis> this room seems pretty dead...
#2099 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Yup. Dead as a doorknob.
#2100 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> We're too busy doing cartwheels over the millionth sale of some game.
#2101 [16:42] <nolstradomis> that is awsome lol
#2102 [16:43] <nolstradomis> i bought 2 myself one for my brother
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#2104 [16:45] <KillSpammer> Well...
#2105 [16:45] <KillSpammer> Bye then
#2106 [16:45] <KillSpammer> Lol
#2107 [16:45] <KillSpammer> I though he would of started a convo
#2108 [16:46] <aetherian> whoa
#2109 [16:46] <aetherian> one million 98
#2110 [16:46] <aetherian> I arrived on time
#2111 [16:46] <aetherian> I think a couple people play minecraft.
#2112 [16:47] <BurnZeZ> Sure?
#2113 [16:47] <aetherian> hmm
#2114 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> 1 and a half, at best
#2115 [16:47] <aetherian> yeah
#2116 [16:47] <aetherian> maybe only one
#2117 [16:47] <aetherian> can't wait till I can make cake
#2118 [16:47] <BurnZeZ> How rich does that make notch?
#2119 [16:47] <aetherian> uh
#2120 [16:48] <aetherian> insufficient data
#2121 [16:48] <KillSpammer> Go do maths :)
#2122 [16:48] <aetherian> no
#2123 [16:48] <KillSpammer> Its impossible to do now
#2124 [16:48] <aetherian> you can't tell from the info I have
#2125 [16:48] <aetherian> >>>
#2126 [16:48] <KillSpammer> Since the pirce changed
#2127 [16:48] <BurnZeZ> 13$ * 1000000 * .60
#2128 [16:48] <BurnZeZ> Well.
#2129 [16:48] <KillSpammer> price*
#2130 [16:48] <BurnZeZ> .70 because of price change.
#2131 [16:49] <xales> keep in mind paypal steals your money, and swedish income tax. lulz
#2132 [16:49] <BurnZeZ> That's why .70.
#2133 [16:49] <BurnZeZ> Maybe .60.
#2134 [16:49] <BurnZeZ> xales: How much does paypal take?
#2135 [16:49] <KillSpammer> Paypal takes like 2 percent or something
#2136 [16:49] <KillSpammer> I'll find out
#2137 [16:49] <xales> BurnZeZ: I believe total is like .45 after fees/taxes
#2138 [16:50] <xales> so he probably gets around 45%
#2139 [16:50] <BurnZeZ> So about 6 Million Dollars.
#2140 [16:50] <BurnZeZ> Not sure how much in Euros.
#2141 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> nothing to sneeze at.
#2142 [16:51] <aetherian> *achoo*
#2143 [16:51] * BurnZeZ is holding pepper.
#2143 [16:51] * xales pokes aetherian in the eye
#2143 [16:51] <aetherian> OW
#2144 [16:51] <aetherian> GAD
#2145 [16:51] <aetherian> *(&%%$^&
#2146 [16:51] * DopeGhoti wonders if sale #1,000,001 wasn't actually the real millionth sale, 'cause wouldn't've' Notch have bought himself a copy?
#2146 [16:51] <xales> DopeGhoti: I hope that guy is still trying to boot win7 on 256mb ram trololololololololol
#2147 [16:51] * BurnZeZ sneezes in aetherian's eye.
#2147 [16:52] <BurnZeZ> DopeGhoti: No.
#2148 [16:52] <BurnZeZ> xales: Troll senses tingling. What happened? :D
#2149 [16:52] <aetherian> what, win7 can't run on my old IBM office calculator?
#2150 [16:52] <aetherian> WHAT?
#2151 [16:53] <xales> BurnZeZ: read up
#2152 [16:53] <KillSpammer> Ima try run windows 8 on 4 ram
#2153 [16:53] <BurnZeZ> kk
#2154 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> BurnZeZ: tl;dr: "Waaa, I can't run Minecraft of my ancient 1GHz machine with 1.5 GiB of RAM using Win7!" "Get more RAM." "Idowanna!"
#2155 [16:53] <KillSpammer> Seen the new stuff from razer?
#2156 [16:53] <KillSpammer> Well the new thing
#2157 [16:53] <KillSpammer> Its a gaming laptop
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#2159 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> KillSpammer: no, the new stuff is now? Stop the presses!
#2160 [16:53] <KillSpammer> Its pretty cool
#2161 [16:54] <KillSpammer> What?
#2162 [16:54] <mr_boo> Anyone here that can help with Minecraft purchase info?
#2163 [16:54] <aetherian> notch is guzzling the champagne right now
#2164 [16:54] <KillSpammer> Everyone...
#2165 [16:54] <KillSpammer> Mr_Boo ask and you will get an answer
#2166 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> This just in: The new stuff from Razer is apparently new
#2167 [16:54] <xales> mr_boo: what is the problem
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#2169 [16:54] <KillSpammer> ... DopeGhoti
#2170 [16:54] <aetherian> new stuff is new?
#2171 [16:54] <aetherian> whoa
#2172 [16:55] <KillSpammer> I kno
#2173 [16:55] <KillSpammer> w
#2174 [16:55] <mr_boo> Cant get the submission for Paypall to work
#2175 [16:55] * aetherian is away: gotta do my writing.
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#2176 [16:55] <BurnZeZ> What causes "Chunk load" lag?
#2177 [16:55] <BurnZeZ> CPU?
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#2179 [16:55] <xales> BurnZeZ: probably RAM
#2180 [16:56] <quittix3> wow im only using 86% of 512mb of ram
#2181 [16:56] <BurnZeZ> Nah, I have 4 Gigs.
#2182 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> Hard drive I/O speeds possible
#2183 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> possibly*
#2184 [16:56] <BurnZeZ> Ah.
#2185 [16:56] <BurnZeZ> Maybe.
#2186 [16:56] <quittix3> what do you mean imdont have enough ram? where the heck is my 1gb going?
#2187 [16:56] <BurnZeZ> I'm using a laptop, so it could be.
#2188 [16:56] <BurnZeZ> Gateway NV52 with Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
#2189 [16:57] <quittix3> :/ im running windows 7 on 512mb of ddr1 ram
#2190 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> "running" *snrk*
#2191 [16:57] <quittix3> its running just fine
#2192 [16:57] <xales> quittix3: would you like help with minecraft? if not, please leave
#2193 [16:57] <quittix3> i do need help D:
#2194 [16:57] <xales> and what is the problem?
#2195 [16:57] <BurnZeZ> lol
#2196 [16:57] <BurnZeZ> Somebody's editing Minecraft's index.
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#2198 [16:58] <quittix3> is minecraft using all my ram?
#2199 [16:58] <BurnZeZ> Just saw Text on the website.
#2200 [16:58] <xales> quittix3: yes
#2201 [16:58] <BurnZeZ> quittix3: How much ram do you have?
#2202 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> Let me explain this very slowly.
#2203 [16:58] <quittix3> no lol, i mean is it using it the right way and all that it needs?
#2204 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft allocates 1GiB of RAM when you start it up.
#2205 [16:58] <BurnZeZ> quittix3: Also, what's your CPU speed.
#2206 [16:58] <BurnZeZ> ?*
#2207 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> You just said you had 0.5 GiB of RAM.
#2208 [16:59] <quittix3> yea but i dont care what it allocates i care about what it uses
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#2210 [16:59] <xales> quittix3: there is no difference unless you are a programmer
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#2212 [16:59] <BurnZeZ> quittix3: CPU speed.
#2213 [16:59] <xales> which you clearly are not
#2214 [16:59] <aetherian> now be nice xal
#2215 [16:59] <quittix3> im running on 512mb of ram to make a point, minecraft has enough ram because i have
#2216 [16:59] <quittix3> enough
#2217 [16:59] <luminoso> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! new user here. tested minecraft classic for a few days and today i've buyed the full version. question: where can i find good servers?
#2218 [16:59] <aetherian> ...
#2219 [16:59] <BurnZeZ> quittix3: Tell me your processor's GHZ NAO?
#2220 [16:59] <xales> luminoso: minestatus.net
#2221 [17:00] <luminoso> xales, thank you very much
#2222 [17:00] <aetherian> luminoso: no such thing. does not compute.
#2223 [17:00] <xales> quittix3: just because windows runs doesn't mean that Minecraft can
#2224 [17:00] <luminoso> aetherian, lolol
#2225 [17:00] <quittix3> my processor is a intel pentium 4, 3.4ghz single core cpu
#2226 [17:00] <BurnZeZ> Oh.
#2227 [17:00] <BurnZeZ> That's your problem.
#2228 [17:00] <quittix3> but thats just the thing
#2229 [17:00] <aetherian> haha
#2230 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> quittix3: disable virtual memory and say that.
#2231 [17:00] <BurnZeZ> You're using too much ram for that processor.
#2232 [17:00] <quittix3> windows isnt taking more than 512mb
#2233 [17:00] <BurnZeZ> You should be using 256.
#2234 [17:00] <luminoso> any recommendation?
#2235 [17:00] <xales> I have already explained to you that YOUR COMPUTER DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR MINECRAFT
#2236 [17:00] <quittix3> YES IT DOES
#2237 [17:00] <xales> luminoso: smp.shadow-craft.net
#2238 [17:01] <luminoso> xales, thank you once again
#2239 [17:01] <quittix3> im not using mkore than 512mb of ram
#2240 [17:01] <BurnZeZ> quittix3: You have too much ram. That's what your problem is.
#2241 [17:01] <xales> quittix3: You are the one asking for help. We will not help you if you do not listen
#2242 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> quittix3: again, prove it. Disable virtual memory.
#2243 [17:01] <quittix3> it only has 512mb of ram right now
#2244 [17:01] <aetherian> quittix3: buy a better computer
#2245 [17:01] <BurnZeZ> With that processor, 512 is way too much ram to handle.
#2246 [17:01] <quittix3> when i put my 1gb wtick in it will still not be using that 1gb stick
#2247 [17:02] <xales> quittix3: unfortunately, you do not understand how computers work, do you
#2248 [17:02] <BurnZeZ> quittix3: Shoo troll.
#2249 [17:02] <quittix3> yes i do..
#2250 [17:02] <quittix3> :(
#2251 [17:02] <xales> clearly not
#2252 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> quittix3: Disable. Your. Virtual. Memory.
#2253 [17:02] <quittix3> my brother ran play minecraft just fine with a 2.8ghz single core processor and 1gb of ram
#2254 [17:02] <aetherian> quittix3: buy a new computer
#2255 [17:02] <aetherian> )
#2256 [17:02] <aetherian> :)
#2257 [17:02] <xales> quittix3: that means nothing
#2258 [17:02] <BurnZeZ> 1GB is not 512MB.
#2259 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> your brother is a liar.
#2260 [17:02] <quittix3> i dont get why mine is so dumb
#2261 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> it's not your computer that's dumb, I suspect.
#2262 [17:03] <quittix3> hes not lieing because i see it
#2263 [17:03] * aetherian sobs
#2263 [17:03] <BurnZeZ> DopeGhoti: +1
#2264 [17:03] <quittix3> 5 feet away from me
#2265 [17:03] <quittix3> hes not lagging at all
#2266 [17:03] <xales> quittix3 if you want to minecraft, GET A BETTER COMPUTER. that is the ONLY solution. we CANNOT and WILL NOT help you with something that CAN NOT be fixed
#2267 [17:03] <quittix3> dude...
#2268 [17:03] <BurnZeZ> WAIT
#2269 [17:03] <BurnZeZ> I'll recode Minecraft from scratch in C++.
#2270 [17:03] <BurnZeZ> Problem solved.
#2271 [17:03] <aetherian> hahah
#2272 [17:03] <quittix3> my brother is playing minecraft 5 feet away from me with a computer that is less godd than mine just fine
#2273 [17:03] <Solvius> grin
#2274 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> "Hey, computer A can run Minecraft, and Computer B cannot. The problem CAN'T POSSIBLY be with Computer B!"
#2275 [17:03] <aetherian> that'll only take a day or two
#2276 [17:04] <quittix3> my computer is better than his
#2277 [17:04] <xales> quittix3: indeed. clearly the problem is with YOUR COMPUTER then
#2278 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> you fail at basic deductive reasoning.
#2279 [17:04] <BurnZeZ> quittix3: Clearly.
#2280 [17:04] <xales> The problem is between the keyboard and chair, quittix3
#2281 [17:04] <aetherian> ehhe
#2282 [17:04] <aetherian> ah, mibbit. don't you love it?
#2283 [17:04] <Solvius> I think he needs more ram :)
#2284 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> No.
#2285 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> No I do not.
#2286 [17:05] <BurnZeZ> quittix3: What is an Arithmetic Logic Unit?
#2287 [17:05] <aetherian> haha
#2288 [17:05] <quittix3> he has 2.8ghz single core cpu i have 3.4ghz single core cpu, he has 1gb of ddr1 ram i ahve 1.5gb of ddr1 ram
#2289 [17:05] <quittix3> those are the only things different in our computer
#2290 [17:05] <BurnZeZ> ..............................
#2291 [17:05] <xales> quittix3: LET ME GIVE YOU A LESSON IN LOGIC
#2292 [17:05] <DopeGhoti> your computer also has a proximal bogon emitter apparently
#2293 [17:05] <quittix3> beides that, everything is identical
#2294 [17:05] <xales> IF SOMETHING DOESNT WORK, THEN IT IS THE PROBLEM
#2295 [17:05] <aetherian> :O
#2296 [17:05] <BurnZeZ> DopeGhoti: No, it might be a flux capacitor.
#2297 [17:05] <aetherian> LIES
#2298 [17:06] <quittix3> seriously...
#2299 [17:06] <BurnZeZ> DopeGhoti: Because clearly that space contains tons of contradictions.
#2300 [17:06] <DopeGhoti> BurnZeZ: no, if quittix3 had any capacity for flux, this conversation would have been over fifty minutes ago.
#2301 [17:06] <BurnZeZ> Haha.
#2302 [17:06] <aetherian> quittix3: have you tried stopping streaming youtube while playing minecraft?
#2303 [17:06] <quittix3> im trying to find a reasonable explination to maby why it is doing this
#2304 [17:06] <xales> Iguana
#2305 [17:06] <aetherian> :3
#2306 [17:06] <xales> please show him the door
#2307 [17:06] <BurnZeZ> quittix3: Why what is doing what?
#2308 [17:07] <aetherian> why is computer
#2309 [17:07] <aetherian> is failing
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#2311 [17:07] <Solvius> its doing nothing, isnt it ?
#2312 [17:07] <quittix3> i was hoping someone might be able to come up with a few ideas of whats going wrong
#2313 [17:07] <DopeGhoti> we have
#2314 [17:07] <DopeGhoti> several times
#2315 [17:07] <aetherian> yup
#2316 [17:07] <xales> quittix3: we have already told you. the problem is your computer
#2317 [17:07] <BurnZeZ> quittix3: Minecraft is coded in Java.
#2318 [17:07] <quittix3> right now im only using 79% of 512mb of ram
#2319 [17:07] <aetherian> quittix3: if you don't like java quit going to starbucks.
#2320 [17:07] <DopeGhoti> quittix3: Lies.
#2321 [17:07] <luminoso> what does SMP server means?
#2322 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> survival multiplayer
#2323 [17:07] <xales> luminoso: survival multiplayer
#2324 [17:07] <BurnZeZ> Survival Mutltifl
#2325 [17:07] <xales> ninja'd
#2326 [17:07] <BurnZeZ> Ninja
#2327 [17:07] <quittix3> if i put my 1gb stick in that means minecraft will have 1gb+ ram to work with
#2328 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> quittix3: your memory allegations mean _nothing_ until you have turened off virtualk memory.
#2329 [17:08] <Solvius> quittix3 does it run in your browser ?
#2330 [17:08] <xales> GreyVulpine: can you show quittix3 the door please
#2331 [17:08] * Kealper kicked quittix3 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: quittix3)
#2332 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> quittix3, clearly, nobody here can help you
#2333 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> damn
#2334 [17:08] <aetherian> haha
#2335 [17:08] <aetherian> fail
#2336 [17:08] <Solvius> grin
#2337 [17:08] <xales> inb4 +b
#2338 [17:08] <BurnZeZ> Sweet. I have his IP.
#2339 [17:08] <aetherian> hehehe
#2340 [17:08] <luminoso> xales, what is the oppusite of SM?
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#2342 [17:08] <quittix3> how do i disable virtual ram?
#2343 [17:09] <xales> quittix3: did you try google?
#2344 [17:09] <xales> luminoso: classic?
#2345 [17:09] <aetherian> wahaha
#2346 [17:09] <aetherian> :3
#2347 [17:09] <BurnZeZ> Wait.
#2348 [17:09] <xales> god. fucking americans
#2349 [17:09] <BurnZeZ> I've got a good one.
#2350 [17:09] <aetherian> OI
#2351 [17:09] <aetherian> xales
#2352 [17:09] <BurnZeZ> Give me a chance when he comes back.
#2353 [17:09] <luminoso> xales, ty. sorry for silly questions
#2354 [17:09] <aetherian> mostly fucking americans
#2355 [17:09] <aetherian> not all
#2356 [17:09] <xales> BurnZeZ: something tells me he wont be
#2357 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+7+disable+virtual+memory
#2358 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> (but he's gone)
#2359 [17:09] <aetherian> well g2g
#2360 [17:09] <aetherian> fer now
#2361 [17:10] <BurnZeZ> Maybe he disabled virtual memory, resulting in crashes?
#2362 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> BurnZeZ: no, he's using virtual memory, resulting in false impressions of free RAM
#2363 [17:10] <Solvius> another sastifed costumer :)
#2364 [17:10] <BurnZeZ> DopeGhoti: Talking about why he exited.
#2365 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> maybe his brother dope-slapped him onto the reset switch
#2366 [17:11] <BurnZeZ> I think that would've been ping timeout?
#2367 [17:11] <Solvius> nope, his brother is playing minecraft and laughs
#2368 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> you forget, quiix was magical
#2369 [17:11] <luminoso> i disabled virtual memory
#2370 [17:12] <luminoso> but i do have 12GB of ram
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#2372 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> luminoso: it's probably running marginally better then :)
#2373 [17:12] <BurnZeZ> PC I'm making has 24GB ram.
#2374 [17:12] <luminoso> also, if you run win7 disable virtual memory isn't needed
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#2376 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> Trying to open the map image of my server, GIMP allocates 9 GiB into its swapfile :O
#2377 [17:13] <BurnZeZ> O.o
#2378 [17:13] <xales> DopeGhoti: hax
#2379 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> luminoso: it is if you want to prove to a slaptard that Win7 is indeed taking up more than 256 MiB of RAM
#2380 [17:13] <BurnZeZ> I think I saw that on an Anime.
#2381 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> the funny thing is, the image is smaller than 200 MiB
#2382 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> it's an image measuring in at 48842 × 19434 pixels.
#2383 [17:15] <BurnZeZ> Nice.
#2384 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> (well, that was a week or so ago, today's is probably bigger)
#2385 [17:16] <mikefromshoes> i have a quick question about purchasing the game. Does it accept visa pre paid gift cards because i have 2 and none of them are getting accpeted
#2386 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, no it doesn't.
#2387 [17:17] <mikefromshoes> ok thank you i'll just get a real card :)
#2388 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> mikefromshoes: possible quicker, if you have a bank account, is to just use PayPal :)
#2389 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> s/possible/possibly/
#2390 [17:18] <mikefromshoes> alright
#2391 [17:18] <xales> DopeGhoti: not quicker
#2392 [17:18] <xales> it takes a week to validate and then 3 days for the payment to actually go through
#2393 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> xales: than getting a credit card?
#2394 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> depends on the bank
#2395 [17:18] <xales> or, a month if your bank is gay
#2396 [17:18] <xales> DopeGhoti: if he already has a card
#2397 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> "I'll just get a real card" implies he does not.
#2398 [17:19] <mikefromshoes> my friend said he used a mastercard pre paid card would that work?
#2399 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> mikefromshoes: prepaid cards are generally difficult with international transations
#2400 [17:20] <mikefromshoes> ohhh i'll just try paypal
#2401 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> I had a hard enough time with a prepaid card trying to put money into my PSN account, and that was domestic.
#2402 [17:21] <mikefromshoes> Alrighty thank you very much for the help i appreciate it
#2403 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> It's almost refreshing to see someone ask a question and then listen to the answer, isn't it?
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#2405 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Indeedily-doodily
#2406 [17:25] <aetherian> haha
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#2410 [17:46] <Xaviergmail> hey umm.. I cant log in any servers? :(
#2411 [17:46] <Xaviergmail> stuck at logging in
#2412 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> try Greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#2413 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> You're in?
#2414 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Well then, it's not you
#2415 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> It's not a modded server. Just there to test connectivity
#2416 [17:49] <peru__> GreyVulpine, is it a bug or is it a feature, that a minecart will sometimes merge with a cooblestone at the end of track
#2417 [17:49] <xales> peru__: bug
#2418 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> def.
#2419 [17:49] <peru__> ok
#2420 [17:56] <KillSpammer> Beep
#2421 [17:58] <xales> boop
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#2424 [17:59] <KillSpammer> Oh noez
#2425 [17:59] <KillSpammer> Xales
#2426 [17:59] <KillSpammer> When ever i say beep
#2427 [18:00] <KillSpammer> You must say Boop now
#2428 [18:00] <xales> onoes
#2429 [18:00] <KillSpammer> It must be done!
#2430 [18:05] <KillSpammer> beep
#2431 [18:06] * DopeGhoti has had enough, and will no longer see any spam from a certain resident.
#2431 [18:07] <KillSpammer> DopeGhoti,
#2432 [18:09] <KillSpammer> Xales get your ass in here and say boop
#2433 [18:12] <Solvius> is minecraft.net down ?
#2434 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> !check minecraft.net:80
#2435 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> seemingly not.
#2436 [18:12] <xales> isminecraftdown.net
#2437 [18:12] <xales> DopeGhoti: my link is cooler
#2438 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> xales: not if I don't have a browser open, it isn't.
#2439 [18:13] <KillSpammer> http://isminecraftdown.net
#2440 [18:13] <Solvius> it isnt loading into my browser
#2441 [18:13] <KillSpammer> Mines better :)
#2442 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> Solvius: is it just taking longer than usual, or are you getting an error message?
#2443 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> I'm getting a 502 bad gateway with minecraft.net
#2444 [18:14] <Solvius> well, cant get on it, its taking to long
#2445 [18:14] <Xaviergmail> !check 92.253.118.75
#2446 [18:14] <Xaviergmail> :(
#2447 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> isminecraftdown.net says it could be down
#2448 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> that's definitive.
#2449 [18:14] <KillSpammer> !check test
#2450 [18:14] <KillSpammer> Lol
#2451 [18:14] <KillSpammer> It checks words?
#2452 [18:14] <xales> !disable
#2453 [18:14] <KillSpammer> Can i be an owner :)?
#2454 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Um, no.
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#2456 [18:15] <Xaviergmail> !check 92.253.118. 75
#2457 [18:15] <KillSpammer> Lol
#2458 [18:15] <KillSpammer> SOmeone came to use it too!
#2459 [18:15] <tiba666> other there have problem to connect to minecraft launcher?
#2460 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes tiba666 - Looks like minecraft.net is down
#2461 [18:15] <Solvius> lost a few times the connection with my server to, Suppose that is because of the minecraft site being slow ? :)
#2462 [18:15] <Xaviergmail> =(
#2463 [18:15] <KillSpammer> Minecraft.net is being ddosed again?
#2464 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> Solvius: may be possible. Also, what's your native language? The structure of that first sentence was quite Germanic.
#2465 [18:16] <tiba666> cant play on my own server a bit lame ^^
#2466 [18:16] <Solvius> or there is an update commencing, its the big now? hmmmm
#2467 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Nah
#2468 [18:16] <tiba666> i think the update is for early
#2469 [18:16] <tiba666> it's only 00:16 in sweden
#2470 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> update likely tomorrow or the next day, depending on whether FB or WoN is correct.
#2471 [18:16] <Solvius> also its here :)
#2472 [18:17] <xales> Update will be in about 10 hours methinks
#2473 [18:17] <tiba666> maybe
#2474 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> yes, but when will the fix for the update come out? :)
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#2476 [18:17] <xales> DopeGhoti: supposedly it won't be as buggy as past releases
#2477 [18:17] <tiba666> i dont want the the update :P
#2478 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> Wow, not just any old Bix, but TheBix. Welcome! :)
#2479 [18:17] * xales is a Mojang insider =/
#2479 [18:17] <Solvius> when the ppatch for it is done
#2480 [18:18] <tiba666> because i will need patch to the mod i have lol
#2481 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> xales: truly?
#2482 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> tiba666: look elsewhere for mod support.
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#2484 [18:18] <xales> DopeGhoti: truly and really
#2485 [18:18] <Solvius> 504 error now
#2486 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> Neat.
#2487 [18:18] <xales> I know whats in the update too ._.
#2488 [18:18] <tiba666> i dont need the mod support dopeghoti ^^
#2489 [18:18] <tiba666> is a cake ^^
#2490 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> and music.
#2491 [18:18] <xales> bit more than just that
#2492 [18:19] <tiba666> flying pig :P
#2493 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> torch + cake == birthday cake?
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#2495 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> redstone + cake == GlaDOS?
#2496 [18:19] <Solvius> I would enjoy a economic system :)
#2497 [18:19] <tiba666> dopeghoti will the reddust and reddust lamp work normalt like singleplayer?
#2498 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> they already do.
#2499 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> and.. why are you asking me? :)
#2500 [18:20] <tiba666> not on my server o.O
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#2502 [18:20] <tiba666> tried use a lamp and it turn all the wires on and could not turn the lamp off
#2503 [18:20] <tiba666> ^^
#2504 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> tiba666: you running any mods?
#2505 [18:21] <tiba666> iconomy
#2506 [18:21] <tiba666> lol
#2507 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> *snrk* at Notch's last tweet
#2508 [18:21] <xales> tiba666: you turn the torch off using a source of power
#2509 [18:21] <xales> ._.
#2510 [18:21] <tiba666> yea like a pull but it will not turn it off :D lol ^^
#2511 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> tiba666: build this: []/_____[]/ ([] == block; / = RS torch; _ = RS wire)
#2512 [18:22] <tiba666> btw i like minecraft anyways :)
#2513 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Replace the torch
#2514 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> torches that have burned out, might not render correctly in SMP
#2515 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> the one on the far end will be off as it's powered by the one on the near end
#2516 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Then try again
#2517 [18:22] <tiba666> i will try when minecraft net is op
#2518 [18:23] <tiba666> for so can i join the server^^
#2519 [18:24] <Solvius> something is happening I have a site now
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#2521 [18:24] <aetherian> hey vial
#2522 [18:25] <aetherian> augh
#2523 [18:25] <aetherian> minecraft is not connecting
#2524 [18:26] <aetherian> it was working a bit ago
#2525 [18:26] <aetherian> like ten mins
#2526 [18:26] <Solvius> and gone it is again yup :) I think I will go to bed early this night :D
#2527 [18:27] <aetherian> it's only 3:30 :O
#2528 [18:27] <Solvius> 0:27 here
#2529 [18:27] <aetherian> whoa
#2530 [18:28] <aetherian> that is early
#2531 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> it's 1627 here.
#2532 [18:28] <aetherian> it's 2012 here.
#2533 [18:28] <aetherian> old guy
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#2535 [18:28] <aetherian> hey beo
#2536 [18:28] <beo62> hi. :)
#2537 [18:28] <aetherian> sup
#2538 [18:28] <Solvius> I would enjoy a bathtub to, to wash the pigs, they leave a smell when they fly over
#2539 [18:29] <beo62> just wondered why i can not longer log in in the game
#2540 [18:29] <beo62> seems to be the server is down?
#2541 [18:29] <aetherian> happened to me too :O
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#2543 [18:29] <aetherian> like right now
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#2545 [18:30] * Solvius starts shaking
#2545 [18:30] <beo62> working again
#2546 [18:31] <Solvius> hurray :)
#2547 [18:31] <Solvius> hmmm, I need to log in
#2548 [18:34] <aetherian> hahaha geybot
#2549 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> !grey on
#2550 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> !slap aetherian
#2551 [18:34] * GreyBot slaps aetherian with a tuna. Still in the can! *BONK* That will leave a mark.
#2551 [18:35] <aetherian> geybot
#2552 [18:36] <xales> !kick aetherian
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#2554 [18:38] <Cial> well home made cherry wine is nasty
#2555 [18:38] <tiba666> hey agian just tried and with out luck i made a new server with the minecraft client and gave me the stuff and it didnt work with the RD RD lamp and a pull
#2556 [18:39] <Cial> er wrong room
#2557 [18:39] <Cial> whoops
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#2560 [18:45] <TheBix> what is this crap
#2561 [18:46] <TheBix> can't even join a server says everyone is fulll
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#2563 [18:48] <r3d5kull> Hey i just got back and played on my server and well... all the terrain and building and everything is differant... i'm using basic vanilla client please tell me what happened
#2564 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> That.. doesn't happen unless you deleted your world and had a new one generated.
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#2566 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Or you went to a different server by mistake
#2567 [18:49] <r3d5kull> i also just happened to update the server
#2568 [18:49] <r3d5kull> i haven't changed anythingg
#2569 [18:49] <r3d5kull> out side of the update
#2570 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> How did you update the server?
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#2572 [18:50] <r3d5kull> i downloaded a new client from the site
#2573 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Did you mess with server.properties, or the /world/ folder in any way?
#2574 [18:51] <rabbit67890> help me
#2575 [18:51] <r3d5kull> no
#2576 [18:51] <rabbit67890> i cant login
#2577 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> r3d5kull - Again, I don't see a way of that happening unless one of those things was changed.
#2578 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> rabbit67890 - login to?
#2579 [18:52] <r3d5kull> i'm so sad....
#2580 [18:52] <rabbit67890> the game
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#2583 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> rabbit67890 - What does it say when you try to log in?
#2584 [18:54] <rabbit67890> nothing
#2585 [18:54] <rabbit67890> it cant login
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#2587 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't give me any clue as to why rabbit67890.
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#2589 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Does the application launch?
#2590 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> How are you launching it?
#2591 [18:56] <rabbit67890> also sometimes cant connect to minecraft.net
#2592 [18:56] <rabbit67890> i click the launcher on the dock
#2593 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Then what happens?
#2594 [18:57] <rabbit67890> i try to login then it doesnt
#2595 [18:57] <rabbit67890> im gonna reset the game
#2596 [18:58] <darks> the server just might be swamped
#2597 [18:58] <darks> though i just had no issues logging in
#2598 [18:58] <rabbit67890> hmm notch still broke it....
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#2600 [19:00] <rabbit67890> ... i hate my glitched mac bin
#2601 [19:00] <rabbit67890> it was actually glitched files
#2602 [19:00] <rabbit67890> *facepalm
#2603 [19:01] <darks> lol
#2604 [19:02] <rabbit67890> now to find out why it lag my self
#2605 [19:02] * Solvius is off to bed, and waves byee byee
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#2607 [19:12] <Jorc> Hey, when I want to download a texture pack, do I just extract the files to the minecraft folder for it to work?
#2608 [19:13] <Jorc> Well, i did that, but the pack doesnt seem to be turned on
#2609 [19:14] <xales> Jorc: you put the .zip
#2610 [19:14] <xales> in the texturepacks folder
#2611 [19:15] <Jorc> ah I dont seem to have one
#2612 [19:15] <Jorc> item, misc, mods and cartographer
#2613 [19:15] <xales> open minecraft
#2614 [19:15] <xales> go to texture pack list
#2615 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> Jorc: the texturepacks folder would be in %appdata%/.minecraft/
#2616 [19:15] <xales> click button to open folder
#2617 [19:15] <xales> =/
#2618 [19:15] <Jorc> ohhh ofcourse
#2619 [19:16] <Jorc> thanks
#2620 [19:17] <Jorc> Okay ive put the files in the folder
#2621 [19:17] <Jorc> But cant select the texture pack, only the default ones there
#2622 [19:18] <xales> did you restart minecraft?
#2623 [19:18] <Jorc> yea
#2624 [19:18] <darks> try unzippping it
#2625 [19:19] <Jorc> have done with winrar
#2626 [19:19] <xales> no, it has to be in a .zip
#2627 [19:19] <xales> in the texturepacks folder
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#2629 [19:20] <Jorc> ah how do I put it in one?
#2630 [19:20] <xales> is it a .zip?
#2631 [19:20] <Jorc> yeahh it says so
#2632 [19:21] <Jorc> do i put the whole thing as one? so theres a winrar file in the texturepack folder with all the other stuff inside it
#2633 [19:21] <Jorc> Or do i put the stuff inside the winrar file in (thats what i did but didnt do anything )
#2634 [19:21] <Jorc> ah dm, i got it now
#2635 [19:21] <Jorc> thanks guys
#2636 [19:21] <darks> protip: a .zip is not a winrar file. its a standard archive and every peice of archiving software in th4e world can read it
#2637 [19:22] <Jorc> yeah i knew that, i put the winrar file in the folder and it worked
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#2644 [19:42] <KillSpammer> Beep
#2645 [19:43] <KillSpammer> xales!
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#2655 [19:59] <mib_etreaf> hello
#2656 [19:59] <mib_etreaf> someone can help a french guy to make a server operating?
#2657 [20:00] <mib_etreaf> i tried for many hours now, without results
#2658 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> mib_etreaf: what problems are you having?
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#2660 [20:01] <mib_etreaf> i create a server with the .exe on official website
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#2662 [20:01] <mib_etreaf> but when a friend try to connect it is a connection problem
#2663 [20:02] <xales> what problem is that?
#2664 [20:02] <mib_etreaf> something like unable to connect
#2665 [20:03] <mib_etreaf> w8 i asked to him
#2666 [20:03] <mib_etreaf> connecting to the server...
#2667 [20:03] <mib_etreaf> failled to connect to the server
#2668 [20:03] <mib_etreaf> connection timed out
#2669 [20:03] <xales> did you port forward?
#2670 [20:03] <mib_etreaf> yes i open the 25565 ports
#2671 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> So you see any messages on your server log when he tries to connect?
#2672 [20:04] <mib_etreaf> on my router and my firewall turning off
#2673 [20:04] <mib_etreaf> no
#2674 [20:04] <mib_etreaf> not any message
#2675 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> what is your server's address? Is it running right now?
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#2677 [20:05] <mib_etreaf> i dont know my server adress
#2678 [20:05] <mib_etreaf> how can i get it?
#2679 [20:05] <darks> then what's he trying to connect to?
#2680 [20:05] <Kealper> http://whatismyip.com
#2681 [20:05] <mib_etreaf> oh!
#2682 [20:05] <mib_etreaf> sorry its the 79.90.51.77
#2683 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> !check 79.90.51.77
#2684 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> ..Kealper?
#2685 [20:06] <Kealper> O.o
#2686 [20:06] <Kealper> !status
#2687 [20:06] <mib_etreaf> !check 79.90.51.77
#2688 [20:06] <Kealper> it's loaded....
#2689 [20:06] <darks> !boobs
#2690 [20:06] <Kealper> !enable
#2691 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> I think I saw you !disable it a while ago
#2692 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> !check 79.90.51.77
#2693 [20:06] <darks> obviously its not here
#2694 [20:06] <Kealper> oh...someone disabled it
#2695 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> did check get broken?
#2696 [20:07] <mib_etreaf> the server seems to be clean
#2697 [20:07] <mib_etreaf> and operating
#2698 [20:07] <Kealper> !check asdf
#2699 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> connection refused on that port
#2700 [20:08] <mib_etreaf> hmm
#2701 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> which means the server is not running or the port is not correctly forwarded
#2702 [20:08] <mib_etreaf> hmm
#2703 [20:09] <mib_etreaf> and how should i process ?
#2704 [20:09] <mib_etreaf> what is the correct way?
#2705 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> That depends on what type of router you have.
#2706 [20:09] <darks> theres a site that has a guide
#2707 [20:09] <darks> portforward.org maybe
#2708 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> http://www.portforward.com IIRC
#2709 [20:09] <mib_etreaf> yes but my port is open.
#2710 [20:09] <mib_etreaf> ok
#2711 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> open != forwarded
#2712 [20:09] <mib_etreaf> i check it
#2713 [20:09] <darks> <DopeGhoti> open != forwarded
#2714 [20:11] <mib_etreaf> how can i wisp you?
#2715 [20:11] <mib_etreaf> DopeGhoti?
#2716 [20:11] <mib_etreaf> how can i send to you a private message?
#2717 [20:12] <Kealper> with /msg DopeGhoti then your message here
#2718 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> "/msg DopeGhoti Insert Message Here"
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#2720 [20:15] <skippydippy> i checked the port
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#2722 [20:15] <skippydippy> it is opened
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#2724 [20:22] <xales> then it is opened wrong
#2725 [20:22] <Miniviper> hi
#2726 [20:23] <Miniviper> sup
#2727 [20:26] <Miniviper> hey xales are you a mod?
#2728 [20:26] <TrueWolves> he's close to one.
#2729 [20:27] <Miniviper> its like your always on here...
#2730 [20:27] <xales> I am an op in #minecraft, #mcchatter, and #minecraftbeta (a joke of a channel), but not here
#2731 [20:28] <Miniviper> oh cool
#2732 [20:28] <Miniviper> guess what though...
#2733 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> No. Tell us.
#2734 [20:28] <Miniviper> :/
#2735 [20:28] <Miniviper> Im going to buy minecraft soon
#2736 [20:28] <Miniviper> yaaaay
#2737 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> Congratulations.
#2738 [20:28] <CruelNoise> so why can iguana get OP in here, but not me or xales, TrueWolves?
#2739 [20:28] <Xerati> pics or it didn't happen
#2740 [20:28] * DopeGhoti approves of your purchasing plans.
#2740 [20:28] <Xerati> include the credit card being used please
#2741 [20:29] <Miniviper> whaat
#2742 [20:29] <TrueWolves> xales could be oped preaty soon, it's based on how often you answer questions
#2743 [20:29] <Xerati> lol
#2744 [20:29] <Miniviper> Im getting my brother to buy the game when I get a new computer
#2745 [20:29] <TrueWolves> I didn't personly op SMB or Iguana though
#2746 [20:31] <Xerati> sorry, that was me
#2747 [20:31] <Xerati> i'm undercover atm though, so shhhh
#2748 [20:32] <TrueWolves> /msg or /q
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#2750 [20:34] <lemon-rev> i got a stupid zombie trqped in the smallest little inlit of a cave i have seen yet
#2751 [20:34] * aetherian eats dessert
#2751 [20:35] <skippydippy> Now i opened the port. and my friend comes to the server
#2752 [20:35] <skippydippy> he got the following thing
#2753 [20:35] <skippydippy> [INFO] Blastwolf [/90.29.253.210:1175] logged in with entity id 27028
#2754 [20:35] <skippydippy> [INFO] Blastwolf lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#2755 [20:35] <NinjaKirby> Is there any PDF's/Full Documentation on running a Minecraft server to read through?
#2756 [20:36] <skippydippy> it will be helpfull
#2757 [20:36] <skippydippy> its true
#2758 [20:36] <lemon-rev> http://img819.imageshack.us/i/stupidzombie.jpg/ < hahahaha
#2759 [20:37] <NinjaKirby> Looks like he's guarding some Iron, so he has some clue where he wants to be
#2760 [20:37] <lemon-rev> lol
#2761 [20:38] <lemon-rev> but im more tricky than it, i think ill just dig around and like replace the iron i mine but yes stupid zombie is guarding the iron :(
#2762 [20:38] <skippydippy> well guys... i need your help.
#2763 [20:39] <lemon-rev> well
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#2765 [20:39] <lemon-rev> whats the help with
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#2767 [20:42] <Miniviper> Hey guys im back... my computer crapped out
#2768 [20:44] <Miniviper> afk...
#2769 [20:49] <xales> skippydippy: what are the specs of your computer
#2770 [20:49] <xales> how much RAM, CPU
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#2773 [20:54] <lemon-rev> DOH! my zombie guarding that iron has gone :( now that i steped away from it and came back :( i was going to keep it there as a pet
#2774 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> mobs despawn when no one's been around a while
#2775 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> their middle names are all Heisenberg.
#2776 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> and on that note- home I go
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#2779 [20:59] <ferdinand> help me please
#2780 [20:59] <ferdinand> :D
#2781 [21:00] <lemon-rev> well whats your trouble
#2782 [21:00] <ferdinand> QQ i got the new beta server link
#2783 [21:00] <ferdinand> and i dont know where im supposed to paste it
#2784 [21:00] <lemon-rev> from someone else ?
#2785 [21:00] <ferdinand> no from the list
#2786 [21:00] <ferdinand> 173.74.238.179:25565 <--- that
#2787 [21:01] <lemon-rev> you ether get a number 20.30.30.50 < something like that and thats you can put into minecraft muliplayer secion
#2788 [21:01] <lemon-rev> other wise it would be a web link
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#2790 [21:01] <lemon-rev> !check 173.74.238.179:25565
#2791 [21:01] <lemon-rev> so have you brought the minecraft game ?
#2792 [21:02] <ferdinand> no <.<
#2793 [21:02] <lemon-rev> AUTOBOT lol
#2794 [21:02] <ferdinand> what?
#2795 [21:02] <lemon-rev> it used to check the ip adress to see if the ip was set up correctly
#2796 [21:02] <Iguana> I SEE THAT SOMEONE WAS OFFENDED BY ME HAVING OP.
#2797 [21:02] <lemon-rev> if you havent brought the game then that ip address you have gotten wont work
#2798 [21:02] <Iguana> WHY HELLO THERE CRUELNOISE
#2799 [21:03] <ferdinand> QQ that sucks
#2800 [21:03] <CruelNoise> hi iguana
#2801 [21:03] <ferdinand> im stuck in classic server
#2802 [21:03] <lemon-rev> would you please stop like yelling if thats wtf your trying to do iguana
#2803 [21:03] <Iguana> lolwat
#2804 [21:03] <lemon-rev> what you mean by stuck, you cant connect or ?
#2805 [21:03] <CruelNoise> Iguana: it appears that the webmaster of susancoffey.net does not like my idea of sending me a tarball of every image on his site.
#2806 [21:03] <Iguana> No, just internet sarcasm yo
#2807 [21:03] <ferdinand> what?!
#2808 [21:03] <Iguana> lol
#2809 [21:04] <Iguana> Cruel, I got op here because I helped a shitton of people
#2810 [21:04] <Iguana> About 3 months ago
#2811 [21:04] <Iguana> :P
#2812 [21:04] <lemon-rev> ferdinand look your on classic correct
#2813 [21:04] <lemon-rev> ?
#2814 [21:04] <ferdinand> yes
#2815 [21:04] <BurnZeZ> Picture I just took. +2 to whoever recognizes it. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12151069/Photos/SANY0344.JPG
#2816 [21:04] <lemon-rev> now, are you able to connect useing that ip address ferdinand
#2817 [21:04] <CruelNoise> Iguana: ah, that would have been before I was a regular here.
#2818 [21:04] <Iguana> Indeed
#2819 [21:04] <ferdinand> what?
#2820 [21:05] <ferdinand> im noob at this game
#2821 [21:05] <lemon-rev> wtf is it im saying your not getting ferdinand
#2822 [21:05] <ferdinand> u gotta walk me through this step by step
#2823 [21:05] <lemon-rev> ferdinand do you have a muliplayer option in the main menu on classic ?
#2824 [21:05] <ferdinand> i clicked multiplayer yes
#2825 [21:05] <lemon-rev> then what happens
#2826 [21:06] <ferdinand> it shows a list of servers
#2827 [21:06] <lemon-rev> ok
#2828 [21:06] <lemon-rev> so if you try and connect to one what happens ?
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#2830 [21:07] <ferdinand> it says the word "connecting" and its not loading XD
#2831 [21:07] <lemon-rev> what about other servers ?
#2832 [21:07] <ferdinand> lemme find one where i can get in QQ
#2833 [21:07] <lemon-rev> see i think
#2834 [21:08] <lemon-rev> thats just what your going to have to do,
#2835 [21:08] <lemon-rev> consdering that when you try and connect theres a lot of factors that can stop you connecting
#2836 [21:08] <ferdinand> its ok
#2837 [21:08] <ferdinand> im in one now
#2838 [21:08] <lemon-rev> ok then
#2839 [21:08] <lemon-rev> good
#2840 [21:08] <lemon-rev> see how well you move about
#2841 [21:08] <lemon-rev> im talking about lag
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#2843 [21:12] * aetherian is away: SSHHHHH(ower_
#2843 [21:14] <NinjaKirby> The old Server Command bootline doesn't function with the latest Beta Server builds, I guess
#2844 [21:14] <NinjaKirby> Stumbles on the "com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer"
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#2846 [21:20] <NinjaKirby> I'm a tit
#2847 [21:20] <NinjaKirby> Sorted myself out
#2848 [21:21] <ConMan8> no you're made of string
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#2850 [21:21] <NinjaKirby> String...
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#2860 [21:40] <NinjaKirby> What's the extent of the issues surrounding Inventory Data saving?
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#2864 [21:54] <UncleClapton> Hey can someone help me with irc?
#2865 [21:55] <TrueWolves> !
#2866 [21:55] <TrueWolves> Something I can help with.
#2867 [21:55] <UncleClapton> the #minecraft
#2868 [21:55] <UncleClapton> I cant send anything to the channel
#2869 [21:55] <UncleClapton> Im using Chatzilla standalone client
#2870 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Need to register your nickname
#2871 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> /ns register password email
#2872 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> The channel is +M, only registered/identified nicks can talk
#2873 [21:55] <UncleClapton> ty
#2874 [21:56] <UncleClapton> I thought I was though O_o
#2875 [21:56] <UncleClapton> eh oh well
#2876 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> "UncleClapton" is not registered
#2877 [21:56] <UncleClapton> Iy will be in a min
#2878 [21:56] <UncleClapton> ty
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#2880 [22:00] <AetherNoir> Could anyone help me out? I just need one person to attempt to connect to my server to see if I set it up correctly.
#2881 [22:01] <Kaito> i'll try
#2882 [22:01] <AetherNoir> alright lemme get my ip....
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#2885 [22:17] * GreyVulpine dances.
#2885 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Took me 5 tries, but I finally got a prize from that danged santa claws machine.
#2886 [22:17] <ProtoZeph> is there a way to see what email is registered to a username? I need to find out where my verification emails are going.
#2887 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Um, minecraft.net -> log in -> profile
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#2889 [22:20] <Spunkybd> Can i get someone to connect to my server pleasE?
#2890 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Sure, ip?
#2891 [22:20] <Spunkybd> 98.243.1.61:25565
#2892 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Works
#2893 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> But I'm on fire
#2894 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> owie
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#2896 [22:21] <ProtoZeph> I can'
#2897 [22:21] <Spunkybd> oops
#2898 [22:21] <Spunkybd> its in hell world
#2899 [22:21] <ProtoZeph> t log in. thats the problem
#2900 [22:21] <Spunkybd> one sec killing it
#2901 [22:21] <Spunkybd> k
#2902 [22:21] <Spunkybd> 98.243.1.61:25565
#2903 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's good now
#2904 [22:22] <Spunkybd> Thanks
#2905 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Anything else you need?
#2906 [22:22] <Spunkybd> nope, was just making sure it was up
#2907 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Alrighty
#2908 [22:23] <Spunkybd> Had a hard time getting it going..
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#2910 [22:23] <ProtoZeph> My account is premium, I checked. It told me my email is invalid and I'm curious as to why
#2911 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> It should show you what email you're using in the profile
#2912 [22:26] <ProtoZeph> I can't log in, can I see the profile?
#2913 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> You would need to log in
#2914 [22:28] <ProtoZeph> Thats my problem
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#2916 [22:28] * clone trolls
#2916 [22:28] <ProtoZeph> I emailed support, but no response
#2917 [22:28] * Xerati deletes your porn
#2917 [22:29] <Valium> Xerati?
#2918 [22:29] <Xerati> Valium?
#2919 [22:29] <Valium> THE Xerati?
#2920 [22:29] <Xerati> yeah
#2921 [22:29] <Xerati> Ellie told me about your coding for MC
#2922 [22:29] <Valium> you never answer my msn...boo
#2923 [22:29] <Xerati> uhh
#2924 [22:29] <Xerati> i haven't been on msn in forever
#2925 [22:29] <Xerati> sorry, i use steam only now
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#2930 [22:39] <HerpaDerp> Is there anyway to beable to buy the minecraft alpha accounts without the restrictions like on the beta?
#2931 [22:39] <Kealper> allen_: namejacked ftw?
#2932 [22:39] <allen_> Lol Indeed
#2933 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Sorry HerpaDerp, no.
#2934 [22:39] <HerpaDerp> damn
#2935 [22:39] <Kealper> HerpaDerp: only way would be to get ahold of someone who has an alpha gift code
#2936 [22:39] <HerpaDerp> Ya, I was searching for quite a while
#2937 [22:40] <HerpaDerp> I'm so dissapointed, I just found this game a few days ago and wanted to buy it until I saw the alpha/beta dillema
#2938 [22:40] <Valium> dilemma?
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#2940 [22:41] <HerpaDerp> You might not get any updates with the beta
#2941 [22:41] <Kealper> it's not reallya problem
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#2943 [22:41] <Valium> since when?
#2944 [22:41] <HerpaDerp> as with alpha you always will, I've heard
#2945 [22:41] <Valium> the website says I will
#2946 [22:41] <Kealper> you will get all updates to the final release version
#2947 [22:41] <ProtoZeph> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=134062 This is the link to my problem
#2948 [22:41] <allen_> Isn't it pretty much the same thing? Just cheaper.
#2949 [22:42] <Kealper> the only thing beta accoutns do not get for free is the downloadable expantions planned for after the official release
#2950 [22:42] <HerpaDerp> Final release = there will be minecraft2 in a month or 2 and then .... well, you can see my aprehension
#2951 [22:42] <allen_> Proto are you using the password for your official account, not the forums?
#2952 [22:42] <Kealper> !paid ProtoZeph
#2953 [22:42] <Kealper> hmmm....
#2954 [22:42] <HerpaDerp> I'm not sure what expansions would mean
#2955 [22:43] <Kealper> ProtoZeph: are you sure your account was not hacked?
#2956 [22:43] <HerpaDerp> would you have to pay a ton more later for that?
#2957 [22:43] <Xerati> Valium, did you want/need something?
#2958 [22:43] <HerpaDerp> like, if they keep making expansions or whatnot
#2959 [22:43] <Kealper> no, if Notch did charge anything for later expantions it would not be much
#2960 [22:43] <Valium> Please note that when you buy the game, you're paying for the game as it is right now! You will also get the full version of Minecraft when it is released. <-- this is on the page I bought the game on
#2961 [22:43] <HerpaDerp> I wish I could just pay an extra few bucks for the alpha gift code and have that peace of mind though
#2962 [22:43] <minenoob> hello minecraft
#2963 [22:44] <HerpaDerp> sup noob :P
#2964 [22:44] <Kealper> lol
#2965 [22:44] <minenoob> looking for a way to configure sound
#2966 [22:44] <Kealper> what sort of configuration?
#2967 [22:44] <minenoob> am using a linux version
#2968 [22:44] <Kealper> Ubuntu?
#2969 [22:44] <Valium> expansions.... not sure what that could possibly do for the game, it's fine as is is...mostly
#2970 [22:44] <HerpaDerp> use sun java
#2971 [22:44] <Intheblue> Pres ESC and then options
#2972 [22:44] <minenoob> debian squeeze
#2973 [22:45] <Kealper> oh...hmm...do you just not have sound at all?
#2974 [22:45] <Xerati> HI
#2975 [22:45] <ProtoZeph> I guess that's the only thing that makes sense.. if I was hacked what should I do? I can verify that I am really me with my payment info
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#2977 [22:46] <minenoob> yes kealper no sound/ game works
#2978 [22:46] <Xerati> ProtoZeph, what did you use to make the purchase?
#2979 [22:46] <ProtoZeph> the biggest issue is that the email must have been changed
#2980 [22:46] <ProtoZeph> paypal
#2981 [22:46] <Xerati> got a credit card?
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#2983 [22:46] <ProtoZeph> I have the purchase number
#2984 [22:46] <Kealper> ProtoZeph: well, if nothing works, email daniel@mojang.com with your username and proof of purchase :/
#2985 [22:47] <minenoob> kkk ty
#2986 [22:47] <ProtoZeph> okay. I am suffering minecraft withdrawal.
#2987 [22:47] <Kealper> minenoob: ok now....are you sure the game is not turned down to lowest volume in either the main sound mixer or the game options?
#2988 [22:48] <Intheblue> minenoob: you can also try reinstalling/updating Java
#2989 [22:48] <minenoob> kealper all sounds are maxed
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#2992 [22:49] <minenoob> intheblue I have sun java update 6
#2993 [22:49] <minenoob> jre
#2994 [22:50] <Kealper> minenoob: 1.6.0_06?
#2995 [22:50] <Intheblue> minenoob: I thought you were supposed to use Sun java runetime
#2996 [22:50] <Intheblue> runtime*
#2997 [22:50] <minenoob> rechecking
#2998 [22:50] <minenoob> 1 sec
#2999 [22:51] <Kealper> latest is 1.6.0_23, if you are not sure on the exact version open a terminal window and type java -version
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#3001 [22:51] <vertoc> um can someone help me?
#3002 [22:52] <Intheblue> most people are here to help
#3003 [22:52] <vertoc> my old cpu broke
#3004 [22:52] <minenoob> i am using java version "1.6.0_22"
#3005 [22:52] <Intheblue> This is minecraft help
#3006 [22:52] <Intheblue> Try updating java
#3007 [22:52] <vertoc> and until i get a new power supply, i need to use a crappy laptop
#3008 [22:52] <Kealper> minenoob: hmm...let me see if i can find anything related to Debian sound issues
#3009 [22:52] <vertoc> but when i play minecraft (or try to play)
#3010 [22:52] <vertoc> i get this
#3011 [22:52] <vertoc> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 1/12/11 7:44 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.1_02 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java:
#3012 [22:52] <Kealper> vertoc: how crappy?
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#3014 [22:53] <Kealper> also
#3015 [22:53] <vertoc> VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)] org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.nChoosePixelFormat(Native Method) at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.choosePixelFormat(WindowsPeerInfo.java:52) at org
#3016 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> We get it vertoc
#3017 [22:53] <vertoc> so anyone know what i should do?
#3018 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> It's bad drivers, or an insufficient video card
#3019 [22:53] <vertoc> ):
#3020 [22:53] <Kealper> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#3021 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Would be great to know what video card you have
#3022 [22:53] <vertoc> where do i go to update them
#3023 [22:54] <vertoc> and how do i find out which video card
#3024 [22:54] <vertoc> device manager?
#3025 [22:54] <vertoc> Standard VGA graphics adapter
#3026 [22:54] <Xerati> LOL
#3027 [22:55] <vertoc> what?>
#3028 [22:55] <vertoc> is it easy to fix?
#3029 [22:55] <Intheblue> I think that is very old.
#3030 [22:55] <Kealper> minenoob: i can't seem to find anything...have you tried turning your ingame volume down all the way and back up? (that has fixed the issue before for me once)
#3031 [22:56] <vertoc> so....
#3032 [22:56] <vertoc> can i fix it?
#3033 [22:56] <Kealper> that is not the real name....1 sec
#3034 [22:56] <minenoob> kealper I'll give it a shot
#3035 [22:56] <vertoc> i went to device manager and thats what i found under "display adapters"
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#3037 [22:57] <Kealper> vertoc: go to the start menu search and type dxdiag
#3038 [22:57] <Kealper> press enter and tell me when that is open
#3039 [22:57] <vertoc> ok
#3040 [22:57] <vertoc> its open
#3041 [22:57] <Miniviper> kobadeta =D
#3042 [22:58] <Kealper> ok, click on the tab at the top called Display 1
#3043 [22:58] <Kealper> where it says Name:
#3044 [22:58] <vertoc> ok
#3045 [22:58] <Kealper> what does it give?
#3046 [22:58] <vertoc> Standard VGA graphics adapter
#3047 [22:58] <Kealper> o.o
#3048 [22:58] <Intheblue> weird o.o
#3049 [22:58] <Kealper> the one down one, the manufactureer, what is that?
#3050 [22:58] <vertoc> why?
#3051 [22:58] <Kealper> dang i can't type
#3052 [22:58] <vertoc> nvdia
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#3054 [22:59] <vertoc> no wait
#3055 [22:59] <vertoc> (standard display types)
#3056 [22:59] <vertoc> NVIDIA is the chip typ
#3057 [22:59] <vertoc> (standard diplay types) is the manufacturer
#3058 [22:59] <vertoc> *display
#3059 [22:59] <Kealper> that is one generic as heck driver
#3060 [23:00] <vertoc> so... idk what you are saying
#3061 [23:00] <Intheblue> Maybe your computer is not reading your video card?
#3062 [23:00] <Kealper> http://nvidia.com go there, go download the correct drivers
#3063 [23:00] <vertoc> so wat do i do
#3064 [23:00] <Kealper> Intheblue: super generic microsoft drivers
#3065 [23:00] <Intheblue> Ok, guess you learn something everyday
#3066 [23:00] <vertoc> um problem
#3067 [23:01] <vertoc> it asks me for teh product
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#3069 [23:01] <vertoc> idk the product
#3070 [23:01] <Kealper> hmm...
#3071 [23:01] <vertoc> no wait
#3072 [23:01] <Kealper> what is the laptop model number?
#3073 [23:01] <vertoc> theres a sticker on the laptop
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#3075 [23:01] <Kealper> what's it say?
#3076 [23:01] <vertoc> tits nvidia g force fx
#3077 [23:01] <vertoc> *its
#3078 [23:01] <sinedeviance> vertoc: which model?
#3079 [23:01] <sinedeviance> vertoc: is it a 5200?
#3080 [23:02] <vertoc> idk
#3081 [23:02] <Kealper> sinedeviance: doubt it, it's a laptop
#3082 [23:02] <sinedeviance> Kealper: 5200go then.
#3083 [23:02] <vertoc> so what do i do
#3084 [23:02] <sinedeviance> most laptops with FX series cards had the 5200go
#3085 [23:02] <vertoc> ok
#3086 [23:02] <sinedeviance> vertoc: what was the problem?
#3087 [23:02] <vertoc> ill try that
#3088 [23:02] <sinedeviance> ...
#3089 [23:02] <sinedeviance> wtf
#3090 [23:02] <vertoc> it says my video card drivers arent updated
#3091 [23:02] <Kealper> sinedeviance: generic windows drivers don't have opengl stuf
#3092 [23:02] <Kealper> stuff*
#3093 [23:02] <sinedeviance> i didnt tell you to do anything
#3094 [23:02] <sinedeviance> well see
#3095 [23:02] <sinedeviance> this is a problem
#3096 [23:03] <Kealper> i did though, he was trying to download latest drivers
#3097 [23:03] <Intheblue> Maybe he can try CPUZ to find out his graphics card.
#3098 [23:03] <sinedeviance> nvidia doesnt supply drivers for the FX go series
#3099 [23:03] <Kealper> oh?
#3100 [23:03] <sinedeviance> they didnt support their own laptop chipsets until the 6 series
#3101 [23:03] <Kealper> well then....
#3102 [23:03] <vertoc> ForceWare Release 9
#3103 [23:03] <sinedeviance> he has to get them from the laptop manufacturer
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#3105 [23:03] <vertoc> is that what i should download
#3106 [23:03] <sinedeviance> vertoc: no.
#3107 [23:03] <vertoc> i mean 95
#3108 [23:03] <vertoc> not 9
#3109 [23:03] <sinedeviance> yes.
#3110 [23:03] <sinedeviance> 95.xx sounds rigght
#3111 [23:04] <sinedeviance> right* even
#3112 [23:04] <vertoc> ok
#3113 [23:04] <sinedeviance> just curious, where did ya find those?
#3114 [23:04] <sinedeviance> laptop manu. ?
#3115 [23:04] <Kealper> sinedeviance: i've been butchering workds tonight too :/
#3116 [23:04] <Kealper> words -.-
#3117 [23:04] <Intheblue> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Scan.aspx?lang=en-us Try using this.
#3118 [23:04] <sinedeviance> Kealper: hehe. i feel your pain brother
#3119 [23:04] <vertoc> what ?
#3120 [23:04] <sinedeviance> Intheblue: wont work with windows generics. only works if you already have nvidia drivers installed or none at all.
#3121 [23:04] <vertoc> sinedeviance what are you asking
#3122 [23:04] <Intheblue> oh
#3123 [23:05] <vertoc> ooh
#3124 [23:05] <Kealper> sinedeviance: nvidia site is where isent him
#3125 [23:05] <sinedeviance> Intheblue: it's cool though. 95.xx is the correct version range for FX cards. he's on the right track.
#3126 [23:05] <vertoc> one more thing
#3127 [23:05] <Intheblue> k
#3128 [23:05] <minenoob> kealep no luck with the volume up/down/up. am using an alsa-base sound with oss-compat module, What sound dev are you using?
#3129 [23:05] <vertoc> it doesnt support win7
#3130 [23:05] <sinedeviance> vertoc: where did you find the 95.xx forceware?
#3131 [23:05] <vertoc> i went to nvidia
#3132 [23:05] <vertoc> and typed in the 5200 product fx thing
#3133 [23:05] <vertoc> but it didnt work
#3134 [23:06] <xales> minenoob: tried alsamixer?
#3135 [23:06] <sinedeviance> vertoc: you're at the wrong site then. they only have the drivers for the DESKTOP FX cards, NOT the laptop cards.
#3136 [23:06] <Kealper> minenoob: i'm using windows right now, the issues i was having was with PulseAudio on Mint that one time i had issues
#3137 [23:06] <sinedeviance> vertoc: you have to go to the company that MADE YOUR LAPTOP.
#3138 [23:06] <vertoc> oh
#3139 [23:06] <sinedeviance> vertoc: what brand is it? dell? HP? asus?
#3140 [23:06] <minenoob> k
#3141 [23:06] <vertoc> toshiba
#3142 [23:06] <sinedeviance> vertoc: okeis. go to toshiba.com, find a link for support or drivers. then type in your laptop's model number, it will be on the bottom.
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#3144 [23:07] <vertoc> it says it cant recognize any products compatile with hardware
#3145 [23:07] <vertoc> ok ill go to toshiba site
#3146 [23:07] <sinedeviance> vertoc: thats because you dont have any that are compatible. i already told you two times, the drivers from nvidia.com do not support FX go chipsets (i.e. what you have.)
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#3148 [23:08] <vertoc> ok im checking out toshiba
#3149 [23:08] <xales> ns identify hunter2
#3150 [23:08] <sinedeviance> ok. good luck.
#3151 [23:08] <xales> ...oh shit
#3152 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#3153 [23:08] <sinedeviance> GreyVulpine: heyo!
#3154 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> !bap xales
#3155 [23:08] * GreyBot baps xales.
#3155 [23:08] <xales> GreyVulpine: I knew I could draw you out! ;)
#3156 [23:08] <Kealper> lol
#3157 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> hey there sinedeviance
#3158 [23:09] <minenoob> xales alsamixer Master, Master M, PCM are enabled
#3159 [23:09] <akiwiguy> Can anyone hear me?
#3160 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3161 [23:09] <xales> no
#3162 [23:09] <sinedeviance> vertoc: by the way... you have windows 7 on that laptop?
#3163 [23:09] <vertoc> yes
#3164 [23:09] <sinedeviance> vertoc: the laptop came with XP or vista originally, correct?
#3165 [23:09] <vertoc> yeah
#3166 [23:09] <Kealper> that's got to be STARVED for ram if it came with xp
#3167 [23:09] <vertoc> xp
#3168 [23:10] <sinedeviance> vertoc: only reason i ask is because there are no official windows 7 drivers for the FX go series. your only option is the microsoft generics.
#3169 [23:10] <vertoc> maybe *shrug*
#3170 [23:10] <vertoc> so what now?
#3171 [23:10] <vertoc> so i still look at toshba sit
#3172 [23:10] <vertoc> *site
#3173 [23:10] <sinedeviance> vertoc: if you want to play minecraft, you'll have to go back to windows XP. or, you could install a linux distro alongside windows 7 in a dual-boot configuration.
#3174 [23:10] <vertoc> -_-
#3175 [23:10] <vertoc> rlly?
#3176 [23:10] <sinedeviance> vertoc: toshiba's site wont have them, at best they will only have drivers for XP and vista, at worst only for XP.
#3177 [23:11] <vertoc> why
#3178 [23:11] <sinedeviance> vertoc: yes, really. nvidia dropped support on all FX go cards in like 2003.
#3179 [23:11] <sinedeviance> :\ sorry man.
#3180 [23:11] <Kealper> vertoc: you might be SOL until your main computer gets fixed :/
#3181 [23:11] <vertoc> stupid toshiba
#3182 [23:11] <vertoc> F**
#3183 [23:11] <vertoc> 8
#3184 [23:11] <vertoc> *
#3185 [23:11] <vertoc> idk what that was
#3186 [23:11] <Kealper> F**8*? lol
#3187 [23:11] <sinedeviance> vertoc: just download and install ubuntu 10.10, and use that to play minecraft. there ARE current nvidia FX go drivers in ubuntu.
#3188 [23:11] <vertoc> and i jus started a town on an smp server too ):
#3189 [23:12] <vertoc> cant install linux
#3190 [23:12] <sinedeviance> vertoc: you can install it alongside windows 7.
#3191 [23:12] <sinedeviance> vertoc: why not?
#3192 [23:12] <vertoc> dads computer
#3193 [23:12] <Intheblue> vertoc: you can install linux on a flashdrive or cd
#3194 [23:12] <sinedeviance> sucks to be you then, my friend.
#3195 [23:12] <sinedeviance> ^this
#3196 [23:12] <vertoc> dad works for microsoft -_-
#3197 [23:12] <sinedeviance> and boot from a USB stick
#3198 [23:12] <Intheblue> Yeah thats what I do to play minecraft
#3199 [23:12] <sinedeviance> no changes to the hard drive
#3200 [23:12] <sinedeviance> he wouldnt even know
#3201 [23:12] <vertoc> really?
#3202 [23:12] <vertoc> how
#3203 [23:12] <sinedeviance> yep.
#3204 [23:12] <sinedeviance> easy.
#3205 [23:13] <sinedeviance> one sec.
#3206 [23:13] <vertoc> how much space
#3207 [23:13] <vertoc> do i need
#3208 [23:13] <Kealper> 8gb, could be lower, could be more
#3209 [23:13] <sinedeviance> vertoc: about 4GB minimum. 8GB usb stick would be best, but 4GB would be enough.
#3210 [23:13] <Kealper> default is 8gb thoug i think
#3211 [23:13] <vertoc> -_- i have no 8 gb stick
#3212 [23:13] <Kealper> also
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#3214 [23:13] <Kealper> why not do a wubi install?
#3215 [23:13] <sinedeviance> vertoc: external HDD?
#3216 [23:13] <Kealper> it will install just lik.....wait....nvm
#3217 [23:14] <sinedeviance> or yeah, wubi!
#3218 [23:14] <vertoc> is that smaller?
#3219 [23:14] <vertoc> and please explain what that is
#3220 [23:14] <sinedeviance> no, but it wont modify the hard drive
#3221 [23:14] <sinedeviance> wubi installs ubuntu inside windows, kinda
#3222 [23:14] <xales> sinedeviance: won't work
#3223 [23:14] <vertoc> is it easily erasable
#3224 [23:14] <Kealper> his dad will know though, since it would give the option to boot windows or ubuntu at startup :/
#3225 [23:14] <sinedeviance> and when you're done you remove it through programs and features
#3226 [23:14] <sinedeviance> xales: what wont work?
#3227 [23:14] <sinedeviance> Kealper: true.
#3228 [23:14] <Miniviper> hmmm
#3229 [23:14] <xales> at least, I the way I understand it works is that Wubi will mooch windows' drivers and not let opengl work
#3230 [23:15] <sinedeviance> xales: not at all.
#3231 [23:15] <xales> isn't wubi just an ezmode VM?
#3232 [23:15] <Kealper> no
#3233 [23:15] <vertoc> is there a small version of linux
#3234 [23:15] <Kealper> well
#3235 [23:15] <sinedeviance> xales: you're thinking of a virtual machine. wubi is a full native ubuntu installation, it just runs inside a virtual harddrive.
#3236 [23:15] <Kealper> sorta
#3237 [23:15] <vertoc> i think i may have a 4gb stick...
#3238 [23:15] <Miniviper> Hey how long will the 25% deal last?
#3239 [23:15] <Kealper> what sins said
#3240 [23:15] <sinedeviance> xales: wubi has full access to the real hardware
#3241 [23:15] <vertoc> guys
#3242 [23:15] <vertoc> i have a 4gb stick
#3243 [23:15] <vertoc> what can i do with it
#3244 [23:16] <Intheblue> Get http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
#3245 [23:16] <sinedeviance> vertoc: install xubuntu to it.
#3246 [23:16] <sinedeviance> xubuntu is lighter than ubuntu
#3247 [23:17] <vertoc> f***
#3248 [23:17] <vertoc> hey huys
#3249 [23:17] <vertoc> tguys
#3250 [23:17] <vertoc> *guys
#3251 [23:17] * Kealper goes to bed
#3251 [23:17] <vertoc> if i get xubuntu
#3252 [23:17] <sinedeviance> cu Kealper
#3253 [23:17] <Miniviper> v.v
#3254 [23:17] <vertoc> and put it on a usb
#3255 [23:17] <vertoc> and boot it from there
#3256 [23:17] <vertoc> can i remove the usb while it is running
#3257 [23:17] <xales> no
#3258 [23:17] <sinedeviance> vertoc: no.
#3259 [23:17] <vertoc> ):
#3260 [23:18] <xales> before you do that, how much RAM does the laptop have?
#3261 [23:18] <vertoc> I just realized the laptop has 2 usb ports
#3262 [23:18] <xales> if its using such an old card, it may not even have enough RAM to run minecraft =/
#3263 [23:18] <sinedeviance> if you do that, it's likely that the kernel will INSTANTLY panic.
#3264 [23:18] <vertoc> and one is trashed
#3265 [23:18] <vertoc> and the other i need for an internet thingy
#3266 [23:18] <xales> vertoc: how much RAM does the laptop have?
#3267 [23:18] <sinedeviance> vertoc: eh. you're screwed then
#3268 [23:18] <sinedeviance> xales: doesnt matter anyways, he cant boot from USB.
#3269 [23:18] <xales> indeed
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#3271 [23:18] <vertoc> how do i find out ram
#3272 [23:19] <xales> it doesn't matter
#3273 [23:19] <sinedeviance> vertoc: dont bother looking. theres nothing you can do at this point.
#3274 [23:19] <sinedeviance> vertoc: protip: buy new hardware.
#3275 [23:19] <vertoc> really?
#3276 [23:19] <xales> sinedeviance: protip: buy it for him
#3277 [23:19] <sinedeviance> yep.
#3278 [23:19] <vertoc> there is no other option?
#3279 [23:19] <xales> no other
#3280 [23:19] <sinedeviance> nope.
#3281 [23:19] <vertoc> let me check if i can get internet without teh internet thingy
#3282 [23:19] <sinedeviance> xales: no thanks. i believe people should work for what they have.
#3283 [23:19] <vertoc> tjust a sec guys
#3284 [23:20] <xales> sinedeviance: how terribly rude of you
#3285 [23:20] <VelociCow> How do I play multiplayer without playing in a browser? This is just for two people playing in the same house
#3286 [23:20] <xales> VelociCow: classic, or beta?
#3287 [23:20] <sinedeviance> xales: wrong. i'm helping people in the long run. it builds character.
#3288 [23:20] <VelociCow> beta
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#3290 [23:20] <sinedeviance> my kid is gonna build their own car. seriously.
#3291 [23:20] <xales> sinedeviance: </sarcasm> (if you needed it >.>)
#3292 [23:20] <sinedeviance> unless it's a girl... then i'll help.
#3293 [23:20] <xales> VelociCow: just download the .exe
#3294 [23:20] <xales> run it
#3295 [23:20] <xales> click multiplayer
#3296 [23:21] <xales> type IP
#3297 [23:21] <xales> click connect
#3298 [23:21] <sinedeviance> xales: i do WANT stuff, but i work hard for what i have. what i have is enough.
#3299 [23:21] <VelociCow> Oh! we've tried that but it isn't connecting
#3300 [23:21] <VelociCow> let me get the exact error
#3301 [23:21] <xales> inb4 firewall
#3302 [23:21] <xales> inb4 norton, actually
#3303 [23:21] <minenoob> what requirements are need to run minecraft happily ?
#3304 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> Define "happily"
#3305 [23:22] <sinedeviance> lol. ^this.
#3306 [23:22] <xales> minenoob: on windows 7?
#3307 [23:22] <sinedeviance> minenoob: depends.
#3308 [23:22] <minenoob> normal mode
#3309 [23:22] <sinedeviance> xales: too ambiguous.
#3310 [23:22] <sinedeviance> windows 7 has nothing to do with it.
#3311 [23:22] <xales> minenoob: 3GB ram, modern graphics card with 512+ VRAM, 2.5ghz dual core or better
#3312 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> A machine that was developed, sometime in the latter part of this decade.
#3313 [23:22] <sinedeviance> minecraft runs equally well on XP, vista, 7. and faster than it does in linux.
#3314 [23:22] <xales> for higest settigns anyway
#3315 [23:23] <xales> sinedeviance: 7 sucks up more ram than XP, and Vista yet more
#3316 [23:23] <sinedeviance> ^this.
#3317 [23:23] <minenoob> wow that is high
#3318 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> That really isn't
#3319 [23:23] <xales> minenoob: any modern computer meets that =/
#3320 [23:23] <xales> any modern non-budget
#3321 [23:23] <sinedeviance> minimum spec to run on at least normal settings? a good pentium 4 CPU (i'd say 2.6ghz or better) and a gig of RAM.
#3322 [23:23] <sinedeviance> and then a decent GPU.
#3323 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> gig of ram is pushing it a bit.
#3324 [23:23] <sinedeviance> this is running winXP of course
#3325 [23:23] <sinedeviance> a radeon 9600 pro or GeForce FX5900 ultra run it quite well.
#3326 [23:24] <minenoob> i am running in tiny happily amd 1.8ghz 512 / still lags abit
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#3328 [23:24] <sinedeviance> minenoob: more RAM and probably a better GPU would help you a lot.
#3329 [23:24] <mr_trousers> ok
#3330 [23:24] <VelociCow> recap: I'm trying to play multiplayer without using a browser. after running the server and game.exe, logging in and trying to play multiplayer: error is "you need to log in". this happens for both computers
#3331 [23:24] <Xerati> 8gb minimum
#3332 [23:24] <mr_trousers> im back
#3333 [23:24] <Xerati> well that sucks
#3334 [23:24] <mr_trousers> i have free usb port
#3335 [23:25] <mr_trousers> what now?
#3336 [23:25] <xales> mr_trousers: how much RAM does it have
#3337 [23:25] <mr_trousers> ram does what have
#3338 [23:25] <mr_trousers> oh srry
#3339 [23:25] <mr_trousers> im vertoc
#3340 [23:25] <xales> I know
#3341 [23:25] <xales> how much RAM does the laptop have
#3342 [23:25] <mr_trousers> i forgot to change the nicl
#3343 [23:25] * sinedeviance facepalms
#3343 [23:25] <mr_trousers> how do i find out
#3344 [23:25] <xales> sinedeviance: ehh, how does one check RAM on 7 anyway
#3345 [23:26] <xales> right click my computer->properties still?
#3346 [23:26] <sinedeviance> xales: right click my computer, click properties. same as in 98/2000/XP/Vista
#3347 [23:26] <xales> ok
#3348 [23:26] <mr_trousers> 1gb
#3349 [23:26] <xales> not enough
#3350 [23:26] <sinedeviance> wtf
#3351 [23:26] <minenoob> ok thanks minecraft bye
#3352 [23:26] <mr_trousers> -_-
#3353 [23:26] <sinedeviance> why only 1GB?
#3354 [23:26] <mr_trousers> u sure
#3355 [23:26] <xales> mr_trousers: absolutely
#3356 [23:26] <sinedeviance> any windows 7 machine should have AT LEAST 2GB of RAM.
#3357 [23:26] <mr_trousers> its not up to me is it
#3358 [23:27] <xales> minecraft itself uses 1GB, and Windows 7 probably also uses 1gb
#3359 [23:27] <mr_trousers> then why didnt toshiba make it that way
#3360 [23:27] <Coll> ugh
#3361 [23:27] <Coll> my internet is hrrible today
#3362 [23:27] <xales> mr_trousers: because it is old and probably cheap at the time too
#3363 [23:27] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: if your dad works for microsoft and he put win7 on a laptop with only 1GB of RAM, well, no offense, but your dad is an idiot.
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#3365 [23:27] <mr_trousers> ):
#3366 [23:27] <mr_trousers> hey it says its only using 10% of spu
#3367 [23:28] <mr_trousers> cu
#3368 [23:28] <mr_trousers> cpu
#3369 [23:28] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: windows 7 can run fine on 1GB but only if you do an automated install that is tweaked heavily.
#3370 [23:28] <xales> thats actually really high for being idle
#3371 [23:28] <sinedeviance> ^this
#3372 [23:28] <mr_trousers> and only 575 mb
#3373 [23:28] <mr_trousers> of memory
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#3375 [23:28] <xales> thats very much not enough
#3376 [23:28] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: it's using more. superfetch.
#3377 [23:28] <mr_trousers> how much do i need
#3378 [23:28] <Coll> minecraft uses alot of memory for running
#3379 [23:28] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: the extra is just being dumped to the hdd.
#3380 [23:28] <mr_trousers> can i try it?
#3381 [23:28] <xales> mr_trousers: MINIMUM of 2GiB
#3382 [23:28] <mr_trousers> at least
#3383 [23:29] <xales> mr_trousers: there is no fix except buying new hardware
#3384 [23:29] <xales> in this case, that would be an entirely new computer
#3385 [23:29] <mr_trousers> hey i have played a game called toblo on here
#3386 [23:29] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: yeah, just build a new desktop.
#3387 [23:29] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: that game isn't minecraft.
#3388 [23:29] <mr_trousers> xales: the problem is that this is my 'replacement' computer
#3389 [23:29] <Coll> miencraft is a heavy usage game
#3390 [23:29] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: minecraft is not like other games. the engine is written in java, which is VERY inefficient.
#3391 [23:29] <mr_trousers> while im getting a new power supply for my old computer
#3392 [23:29] <Coll> your computer wont run it happily
#3393 [23:30] <mr_trousers> because apparently the power supply ran out
#3394 [23:30] <mr_trousers> what if i took out windows
#3395 [23:30] <mr_trousers> and installed ubuntu
#3396 [23:30] <mr_trousers> ???
#3397 [23:30] <sinedeviance> it wouldnt be any better
#3398 [23:30] <Coll> may slightly help but
#3399 [23:30] <sinedeviance> ubuntu 10.10 uses just as much ram
#3400 [23:30] <Coll> not enough to make it worth your while
#3401 [23:30] <mr_trousers> what about the xubuntu
#3402 [23:30] <sinedeviance> more, actually. newer kernels do memory management much differently.
#3403 [23:30] <Coll> just save some money and buy a new computer seriously
#3404 [23:30] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: xubuntu will use about the same.
#3405 [23:31] <mr_trousers> ok
#3406 [23:31] <Miniviper> java sucks.....I get java virtual machine error so I cant even play online
#3407 [23:31] <xales> mr_trousers: there is NOTHING you can do to make it run, sorry
#3408 [23:31] <Coll> they are cheap and can run minecraft decently
#3409 [23:31] <mr_trousers> is there any way for me to play minecraft
#3410 [23:31] <xales> no
#3411 [23:31] <mr_trousers> any operating system
#3412 [23:31] <xales> no
#3413 [23:31] <sinedeviance> ~500MB of ram at idle for any newer linux distro is about right.
#3414 [23:31] <mr_trousers> isnt there a minimalist os
#3415 [23:31] <xales> sinedeviance: desktop* linux distro
#3416 [23:31] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: you could install crunchbang. it's very lightweight. but it's difficult to use.
#3417 [23:31] <xales> mr_trousers: minecraft needs 1gb for itself. an OS needs at least 100mb or so to boot
#3418 [23:31] <Coll> THERE ISNT ANYTHING YOU CAN DO EXCEPT GET A NEW COMPUTER
#3419 [23:31] <sinedeviance> xales: of course :D
#3420 [23:31] <mr_trousers> ).:
#3421 [23:31] <mr_trousers> ),:
#3422 [23:32] <mr_trousers> MINECRAFT I WANTS
#3423 [23:32] <mr_trousers> hey guys
#3424 [23:32] <Coll> just get a job
#3425 [23:32] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: BUY. NEW. HARDWARE.
#3426 [23:32] <mr_trousers> what if i play in teh browser
#3427 [23:32] <sinedeviance> oh ffs.
#3428 [23:32] <sinedeviance> i quit.
#3429 [23:32] <Coll> your first paycheck should be enough to buy a laptop at walmart
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#3431 [23:32] <mr_trousers> can i try playing in browser?
#3432 [23:32] <Coll> that can run minecraft
#3433 [23:32] <Coll> NO
#3434 [23:32] <mr_trousers> why not?
#3435 [23:32] <Coll> FOR CHRIST FUCKING SAKE
#3436 [23:32] <mr_trousers> its not on my computer
#3437 [23:32] <mr_trousers> its on the interne
#3438 [23:32] <mr_trousers> t
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#3440 [23:33] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3440 [23:33] <Coll> BECAUSE YOUR HARDWARE IS INSUFFICIENT TO RUN IT
#3441 [23:33] <Coll> wow
#3442 [23:33] <Coll> just
#3443 [23:33] <Coll> fucking wow
#3444 [23:33] <sinedeviance> wow. that was epic.
#3445 [23:33] <Coll> lrn2computer please
#3446 [23:33] <mr_trousers> ):
#3447 [23:33] <sinedeviance> i said "i quit" and then i get disconnected.
#3448 [23:33] <Coll> jesus christ
#3449 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> mr_trousers - It doesn't work like that
#3450 [23:33] <sinedeviance> wait, what did he say?
#3451 [23:33] <xales> GreyVulpine: why do I feel like this is a repeat
#3452 [23:33] <sinedeviance> PLEASE tell me.
#3453 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Same
#3454 [23:33] <mr_trousers> so i can do absolutely nothing
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#3456 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> That's correct.
#3457 [23:33] <mr_trousers> -_- i dislike this
#3458 [23:33] <sinedeviance> ahh. that.
#3459 [23:33] <sinedeviance> rofl.
#3460 [23:34] <Xerati> Xales
#3461 [23:34] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: first, and this is just a friendly tip. i'm NOT trying to be an asshole. but ... learn a bit about how computers ACTUALLY work.
#3462 [23:34] <Xerati> um
#3463 [23:34] <xales> ?
#3464 [23:34] <mr_trousers> im sad ),:
#3465 [23:34] <Xerati> i can't talk in #minecraft, and I can't figure out why
#3466 [23:34] <Xerati> it's like i
#3467 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> It's +M
#3468 [23:34] <Xerati> 'm banned, but i can't see a ban
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#3470 [23:34] <Xerati> <_<
#3471 [23:34] <Xerati> ahh
#3472 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> need a registered nck
#3473 [23:34] <Xerati> right
#3474 [23:34] <mr_trousers> i dont care how they work i just wanna play minecraft
#3475 [23:34] <Xerati> yeah...sheesh
#3476 [23:34] <Xerati> i feel noob
#3477 [23:34] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: second... get a fucking job. seriously, life isn't that hard to figure out. you get up, go to work, come home, buy some stuff, jerk off, have dinner, then do it again.
#3478 [23:35] <mr_trousers> im only in high school
#3479 [23:35] <mr_trousers> ):
#3480 [23:35] <xales> so get a job anyway
#3481 [23:35] <mr_trousers> i wanna play minecraft
#3482 [23:35] <xales> I got a job when I was 15
#3483 [23:35] <mr_trousers> i cant legally get a job
#3484 [23:35] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: i had my first job when i was 15 dude.
#3485 [23:35] <mr_trousers> until im 16
#3486 [23:35] <sinedeviance> you have no excuse
#3487 [23:35] <Coll> get a job
#3488 [23:35] <Coll> you can get a job at 1
#3489 [23:35] <sinedeviance> i was working when i was a sophomore
#3490 [23:35] <Coll> 16
#3491 [23:35] <Coll> you can legally work
#3492 [23:35] <Coll> you need a permit but you can
#3493 [23:35] <mr_trousers> yeah but im 15
#3494 [23:36] <Xerati> you can work at 15
#3495 [23:36] <xales> so get a work permit
#3496 [23:36] <sinedeviance> <mr_trousers> i cant legally get a job <-- yes, you can. if you live in any civilized country, it's generally called a work permit.
#3497 [23:36] <Xerati> with parental permissions
#3498 [23:36] <mr_trousers> so...yeah
#3499 [23:36] <mr_trousers> meh
#3500 [23:36] <mr_trousers> i just wanna play minecraf
#3501 [23:36] <mr_trousers> t
#3502 [23:36] <Kaito> wait, so mr_trousers computer is incapable of running minecraft? (sorry, the backlog was hard to read)
#3503 [23:36] <Coll> well
#3504 [23:36] <mr_trousers> is that really too much to ask
#3505 [23:36] <sinedeviance> dude... i saved up enough money in two years to full restore and paint a classic car. it was like $30,000 worth of parts and work.
#3506 [23:36] <xales> Kaito: indeed
#3507 [23:36] <Coll> it is when you dont understand a thing about computers
#3508 [23:36] <sinedeviance> trust me, i coulda bought a shitload of nice computer hardware with that money
#3509 [23:36] <Coll> so either you get a new computer
#3510 [23:36] <xales> mr_trousers: what do you think we can do
#3511 [23:36] <mr_trousers> the problem is not that i do not have a good computer
#3512 [23:36] <sinedeviance> it's NOT THAT HARD.
#3513 [23:36] <Coll> or you dont run minecraft
#3514 [23:36] <Kaito> what is he missing on his computer?
#3515 [23:36] <Kaito> not enough ram?
#3516 [23:36] <mr_trousers> the problem is that my awesome computer broke down
#3517 [23:37] <Coll> there is nothing you can do about it
#3518 [23:37] <xales> Kaito: everything
#3519 [23:37] <Coll> then fix it
#3520 [23:37] <mr_trousers> and now i must use a crappy one
#3521 [23:37] <sinedeviance> Kaito: ancient GPU, piece of shit laptop, and it's running win7
#3522 [23:37] <Kaito> my 550$ laptop can play minecraft fine
#3523 [23:37] <mr_trousers> i know
#3524 [23:37] <Kaito> Win 7 is fine for minecraft
#3525 [23:37] <mr_trousers> but i need a new power supply
#3526 [23:37] <xales> Kaito: the GPU is from '03, if not earlier
#3527 [23:37] <Kaito> oh damn
#3528 [23:37] <xales> mr_trousers: well, you won't get one here
#3529 [23:37] <sinedeviance> Kaito: dude this laptop has a geforce FX go card. it shipped with XP.
#3530 [23:37] <mr_trousers> and that might not even fix it):
#3531 [23:37] <Coll> my 295$ laptop can run it decently
#3532 [23:37] <Kaito> OOH
#3533 [23:37] <Kaito> okay
#3534 [23:37] <Coll> and it is using intel graphics
#3535 [23:37] <mr_trousers> wait
#3536 [23:37] <sinedeviance> yeah, see my point now? :D
#3537 [23:37] <mr_trousers> if i get xp on here will it work
#3538 [23:37] <Kaito> sorry, i guess i should have read further in the backlog
#3539 [23:37] <sinedeviance> i love my laptop
#3540 [23:38] <Kaito> mr_trousers: NO
#3541 [23:38] <xales> mr_trousers: what do you not understand about the word NO
#3542 [23:38] <Kaito> your computer is physically incapable of running minecraft
#3543 [23:38] <Kaito> like
#3544 [23:38] <Coll> my older computer with a pentium 2 with 1 gig and a geforce fx 5500 can run it decently
#3545 [23:38] <Coll> windows xp
#3546 [23:38] <mr_trousers> see
#3547 [23:38] <Kaito> you are trying to intsall a jet airplane on a motorcycle
#3548 [23:38] <mr_trousers> so i can do it?
#3549 [23:38] <xales> YOUR COMPUTER IS NOT CAPABLE OF RUNNING MINECRAFT NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO
#3550 [23:38] <sinedeviance> $405.99 last year. windows 7 ultimate x64, 2.1ghz amd turion x2, 3GB of RAM, ati HD3200.
#3551 [23:38] <Kaito> they are incompatable
#3552 [23:38] <mr_trousers> coll said that i can do it
#3553 [23:38] * Kealper grumbles and waves a kick mallet
#3553 [23:38] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: install XP and it will run, yes.
#3554 [23:38] <mr_trousers> YAY
#3555 [23:38] * Kaito facepalms
#3555 [23:38] <mr_trousers> *HAPPY*
#3556 [23:38] <sinedeviance> there are drivers for XP for that video hardware
#3557 [23:38] <sinedeviance> official ones
#3558 [23:39] <sinedeviance> thought you couldnt do that though?
#3559 [23:39] <Coll> no I didnt
#3560 [23:39] <Kealper> why do i smell a troll?
#3561 [23:39] <sinedeviance> dads laptop?
#3562 [23:39] <mr_trousers> yeah but hes ok with other windows
#3563 [23:39] <BurnZeZ> Holy crap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt4ZhlFzYHU&hd=1
#3564 [23:39] <xales> Kealper: why do I smell the same one from before. sec
#3565 [23:39] <Coll> also good fuckign luck
#3566 [23:39] <Kealper> yea i know xales, i read
#3567 [23:39] <sinedeviance> <Coll> <mr_trousers> its not on my computer
#3568 [23:39] <sinedeviance> <Coll> |<-- trekkie1701c has left irc.esper.net (Quit: :P)
#3569 [23:39] <sinedeviance> <Coll> <mr_trousers> its on the interne
#3570 [23:39] <sinedeviance> <Coll> <mr_trousers> t
#3571 [23:39] <Coll> you dont even know how computers work
#3572 [23:39] <sinedeviance> ^epic fail.
#3573 [23:39] <Coll> I doubt you can even get a OS on it
#3574 [23:39] <Coll> without botching it
#3575 [23:39] <xales> well, different IP. not that it means much
#3576 [23:39] <mr_trousers> but if i install windows xp itll work right
#3577 [23:39] <Kaito> omfg
#3578 [23:40] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: yep.
#3579 [23:40] <mr_trousers> hey i just got windows 7 on it
#3580 [23:40] <Coll> kjust kick him
#3581 [23:40] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: you should TOTALLY install winxp.
#3582 [23:40] <sinedeviance> seriously.
#3583 [23:40] <Coll> seriously
#3584 [23:40] <Kaito> no
#3585 [23:40] <Kaito> dont kick
#3586 [23:40] <BurnZeZ> Why is that troll back again?
#3587 [23:40] <Kaito> i like him
#3588 [23:40] <Kaito> he's fun
#3589 [23:40] <Kealper> mr_trousers: your presence in this channel is no longer needed
#3590 [23:40] <mr_trousers> im thinking you are joking with me
#3591 [23:40] <mr_trousers> wait just give me one straight answer
#3592 [23:40] <xales> Kealper: don't kick yet
#3593 [23:40] <Coll> if you want to instal xp
#3594 [23:40] <mr_trousers> if i install xp
#3595 [23:40] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: it's easy to install XP. you just pop the disc in, go to windows recovery console when you get the option, then run this command: format c:
#3596 [23:40] <mr_trousers> will it work
#3597 [23:40] <Coll> go to C:\windows
#3598 [23:40] <mr_trousers> i know
#3599 [23:40] <Kealper> fine, but don't play with your food too much xales
#3600 [23:40] <Coll> and delete the folder called system32
#3601 [23:40] <mr_trousers> but if i do that
#3602 [23:40] <mr_trousers> will it work
#3603 [23:40] <Coll> it will run minecraft then
#3604 [23:41] <sinedeviance> <Coll> and delete the folder called system32 <-- this.
#3605 [23:41] <Kaito> yes
#3606 [23:41] <mr_trousers> 'and im not that stupid
#3607 [23:41] <Kaito> all that folder does is hold temporary files
#3608 [23:41] <Kaito> it's worthless
#3609 [23:41] <sinedeviance> if you dont delete the one from win7 it will interfere with XP
#3610 [23:41] <mr_trousers> im not that stupid
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#3612 [23:41] <mr_trousers> guys
#3613 [23:41] <Kaito> oh?
#3614 [23:41] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: nothing stupid about it man. trust me, i'm an IT professional.
#3615 [23:41] <mr_trousers> im not retarded
#3616 [23:41] <mr_trousers> i use the internet
#3617 [23:41] <Kaito> obviously not enough
#3618 [23:41] <Kaito> internet = computer
#3619 [23:41] <mr_trousers> i know some things
#3620 [23:41] <BurnZeZ> mr_trousers: Everyone from Bellevue is retarded.
#3621 [23:41] <sinedeviance> you're not helping your case
#3622 [23:41] <mr_trousers> i dont live in bellevue
#3623 [23:41] <sinedeviance> 99% of people on the internet ARE retarded.
#3624 [23:41] <xales> mr_trousers: you live close enough
#3625 [23:42] <BurnZeZ> You live close enough.
#3626 [23:42] <BurnZeZ> Holy crap.
#3627 [23:42] <mr_trousers> really
#3628 [23:42] <mr_trousers> and where is that
#3629 [23:42] <Coll> "i know some things"
#3630 [23:42] <Coll> yeah
#3631 [23:42] <Coll> sure
#3632 [23:42] <mr_trousers> so wait
#3633 [23:42] <BurnZeZ> xales: We are like in sync or something.
#3634 [23:42] <mr_trousers> one ansswer
#3635 [23:42] <Coll> yet there are like 109 users here
#3636 [23:42] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: do me a favor btw. hit ALT+F4 to bring up your system spec sheet. i want to know what kind of CPU is in that laptop.
#3637 [23:42] <mr_trousers> if i install xp
#3638 [23:42] <Coll> that know more then you
#3639 [23:42] <mr_trousers> will it work
#3640 [23:42] <mr_trousers> i dont trus you
#3641 [23:42] <Kaito> then why are you asking?
#3642 [23:42] <xales> no, it won't
#3643 [23:42] <Coll> and you dont listen to a dam thing they say
#3644 [23:42] <Coll> ok then
#3645 [23:42] <mr_trousers> idk what alt f4 does
#3646 [23:42] <Kaito> yes
#3647 [23:42] <mr_trousers> but im not doint it
#3648 [23:42] <Kaito> use alt+f4
#3649 [23:42] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: it brings up system info
#3650 [23:42] <Coll> gtfo out
#3651 [23:43] <mr_trousers> i doubt tha
#3652 [23:43] <mr_trousers> t
#3653 [23:43] <xales> mr_trousers: it does, actually
#3654 [23:43] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: eh, doubt or find out.
#3655 [23:43] <Coll> if you dont trust us why do you even ask questions here
#3656 [23:43] <mr_trousers> higly
#3657 [23:43] <KART35|iPod> mr_trousers: it does
#3658 [23:43] <mr_trousers> i will search google
#3659 [23:43] <mr_trousers> on alt f4
#3660 [23:43] <BurnZeZ> mr_trousers: Have you pressed Windows key+L?
#3661 [23:43] <Kaito> hey, mr_trousers, /part and /quit are together on a boat. /part leaves. who's left?
#3662 [23:43] <xales> mr_trousers: keep in mind you are coming to us for help
#3663 [23:43] <Coll> go for it
#3664 [23:43] <mr_trousers> that just closes my browser
#3665 [23:43] <sinedeviance> ROFL.
#3666 [23:43] <mr_trousers> but i need help...
#3667 [23:43] <Kaito> hey, mr_trousers, /part and /quit are together on a boat. /part leaves. who's left?
#3668 [23:43] <KART35|iPod> yeah, win+l = opens dxdiag
#3669 [23:43] <mr_trousers> you guys arent helping
#3670 [23:44] <xales> mr_trousers: one second, I know a possible fix
#3671 [23:44] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: yes, you DO need help. you need professional help.
#3672 [23:44] <mr_trousers> ./quit
#3673 [23:44] <KART35|iPod> wich has sys specs :P
#3674 [23:44] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: so... call geek squad.
#3675 [23:44] <Kaito> um
#3676 [23:44] <sinedeviance> and piss off.
#3677 [23:44] <Kaito> he's not on the boat
#3678 [23:44] <Kaito> only /part and /quit are
#3679 [23:44] <Kealper> mr_trousers: they gave you the answer a long time ago, you juse refused to acknoledge it
#3680 [23:44] <mr_trousers> kaito
#3681 [23:44] <mr_trousers> i give up
#3682 [23:44] <mr_trousers> tell me the answer
#3683 [23:44] <xales> Kealper: use my reason :)
#3684 [23:44] <Kaito> /quit
#3685 [23:44] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: you cant handle the answer!
#3686 [23:44] <Kaito> he's left
#3687 [23:44] <mr_trousers> wtf
#3688 [23:44] <Kaito> try it
#3689 [23:44] <mr_trousers> how did you do that
#3690 [23:44] <mr_trousers> without quitting
#3691 [23:44] <Kaito> it's a unique feature of this channel
#3692 [23:45] <Kaito> you can type that
#3693 [23:45] <Coll> seriously
#3694 [23:45] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: because it's this channel
#3695 [23:45] <Kealper> /quit
#3696 [23:45] <mr_trousers> i doubt it
#3697 [23:45] <xales> /quit
#3698 [23:45] <Kaito> see
#3699 [23:45] <Kealper> you just type it
#3700 [23:45] <KART35|iPod> /quit
#3701 [23:45] <mr_trousers> /quit
#3702 [23:45] <Kaito> ...
#3703 [23:45] <mr_trousers> hey i did it
#3704 [23:45] <xales> without a space, moron
#3705 [23:45] <KART35|iPod> yep
#3706 [23:45] <Kaito> you put a space
#3707 [23:45] <Kaito> /quit
#3708 [23:45] <Coll> my head hurts
#3709 [23:45] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: no, without the space numbnuts.
#3710 [23:45] <Kaito> see, no space
#3711 [23:45] <Coll> the stupidity here
#3712 [23:45] <mr_trousers> hey you guys did the same thing
#3713 [23:45] <Coll> is just
#3714 [23:45] <Coll> astounding
#3715 [23:45] <xales> mr_trousers: no, we didn't. idiot
#3716 [23:45] <mr_trousers> then how did you do it
#3717 [23:45] <Kaito> it's a feature of the channel
#3718 [23:45] <xales> /quit - with no space
#3719 [23:45] <BurnZeZ> Wait until noobs try using nightly builds. #minecraft is going to die.
#3720 [23:45] <mr_trousers> it is not
#3721 [23:45] <KART35|iPod> •/quit
#3722 [23:45] <xales> /quit WITH A SPACE
#3723 [23:46] <mr_trousers> im not mentally rearded
#3724 [23:46] <xales> mr_trousers: um yes
#3725 [23:46] <Kaito> then type the damn answer
#3726 [23:46] <sinedeviance> mr_trousers: no, you're just 12.
#3727 [23:46] <mr_trousers> *retarded
#3728 [23:46] <mr_trousers> no
#3729 [23:46] <KART35|iPod> ã‚“
#3730 [23:46] <mr_trousers> )':
#3731 [23:46] <BurnZeZ> xales needs +OP.
#3732 [23:46] <Kealper> i grow tired of this rhetoric
#3733 [23:46] <xales> Kealper: do it. my reason
#3734 [23:46] <mr_trousers> no one likes me
#3735 [23:46] <lemon-rev> damm the amount of swareing here im like wtf to all of it, look just get this back to a help channel for peeps sake
#3736 [23:46] <sinedeviance> Kealper: i dont.
#3737 [23:46] <mr_trousers> )
#3738 [23:46] <mr_trousers> ):
#3739 [23:46] <BurnZeZ> mr_trousers: Dang straight.
#3740 [23:46] * Kealper kicked mr_trousers from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: You should have scrolled all the way to the bottom before clicking 'Agree')
#3741 [23:46] <sinedeviance> Kealper: mid-evening entertainment dude.
#3742 [23:46] <Kaito> woot
#3743 [23:46] <Kaito> im sad he didn't fall for the /part and /quit thing
#3744 [23:46] <Kealper> Kaito: i am, too
#3745 [23:47] <sinedeviance> me too
#3746 [23:47] <KART35|iPod> ty Kealper
#3747 [23:47] <xales> I think that was a troll
#3748 [23:47] <xales> =/
#3749 [23:47] <sinedeviance> actually i was hoping for alt+f4
#3750 [23:47] <BurnZeZ> xales: Yeah.
#3751 [23:47] <Coll> "You should have scrolled all the way to the bottom before clicking 'Agree'" is this the minecraft ToS
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#3753 [23:47] <BurnZeZ> My troll senses were tingling.
#3754 [23:47] <KART35|iPod> probably was a troll
#3755 [23:47] <Coll> cause I dont remember seeing anything like that
#3756 [23:47] <xales> sinedeviance: too bad its not linux and you can get people to hit sysrq combinations
#3757 [23:47] <KART35|iPod> * is
#3758 [23:47] <Kaito> HI MR_TROUSERS
#3759 [23:47] <xales> lol
#3760 [23:47] <sinedeviance> xales: you can do it in windows too. just harder ;)
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#3762 [23:47] <xales> sinedeviance: well. =\
#3763 [23:47] <BurnZeZ> Kaito: Quit scaring away the game.
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#3765 [23:47] <sinedeviance> xales: for example, ALT+144 is a hidden character ;)
#3766 [23:47] <rep> is this the help channel?:
#3767 [23:48] <KART35|iPod> yus
#3768 [23:48] <BurnZeZ> Yeah.
#3769 [23:48] <rep> ok
#3770 [23:48] <sinedeviance> wait guys
#3771 [23:48] <sinedeviance> ITS A TRAP
#3772 [23:48] <sinedeviance> rep is mr_trousers
#3773 [23:48] <rep> why is minecraft sound not working
#3774 [23:48] <KART35|iPod> HAI ADMRAL AKBAR
#3775 [23:48] <Kealper> took you that long to notice?
#3776 [23:48] <rep> lol hax its true
#3777 [23:48] <rep> guys
#3778 [23:48] <xales> Kealper: fake problem = ban
#3779 [23:48] <sinedeviance> Kealper: no, it took me that long to type it
#3780 [23:48] <rep> cant you take it all in fun
#3781 [23:48] <KART35|iPod> ugh
#3782 [23:48] <Kealper> oh, you're excused
#3783 [23:48] <rep> no need to kick me
#3784 [23:48] <KART35|iPod> can we ban the troll?
#3785 [23:48] <rep> plz
#3786 [23:48] <Kealper> we could
#3787 [23:49] <BurnZeZ> Same IP.
#3788 [23:49] <sinedeviance> ban.
#3789 [23:49] <Kaito> he's my amusement for the night
#3790 [23:49] <xales> rep: Welcome to bannytown, dumbass. Population = you
#3791 [23:49] <rep> im just havin fun
#3792 [23:49] <Kaito> please dont
#3793 [23:49] <Kaito> :P
#3794 [23:49] <Kealper> well...what do you all say, ban, or counter-troll?
#3795 [23:49] <sinedeviance> okay, okay. Kaito is right.
#3796 [23:49] <xales> rep: #minecraft is for having fun
#3797 [23:49] <sinedeviance> i need to be entertained
#3798 [23:49] <xales> Kealper: counter
#3799 [23:49] <Miniviper> counter troll
#3800 [23:49] <sinedeviance> countertroll!
#3801 [23:49] <rep> counter troll
#3802 [23:49] <BurnZeZ> Maybe I should put his IP on /r/ in 4chan.
#3803 [23:49] <Kaito> counter troll
#3804 [23:49] <rep> no
#3805 [23:49] <Kealper> fair enough
#3806 [23:49] <KART35|iPod> counter troll
#3807 [23:49] <Kaito> YES
#3808 [23:49] <xales> BurnZeZ: do it
#3809 [23:49] <Kaito> do it Burn
#3810 [23:49] <sinedeviance> lol even the troll says counter troll
#3811 [23:49] <sinedeviance> what a bitch.
#3812 [23:49] <KART35|iPod> lol
#3813 [23:49] <rep> hey guys
#3814 [23:49] <xales> rep: there is a lot more people in #minecraft by the way
#3815 [23:49] <rep> my ip is masked
#3816 [23:50] <KART35|iPod> i vote for his ip on /r/
#3817 [23:50] <xales> nope
#3818 [23:50] <rep> so go ahead
#3819 [23:50] <BurnZeZ> rep: Nope.
#3820 [23:50] <Coll> mmm ddosing sounds fun
#3821 [23:50] <xales> its a home IP, idiot
#3822 [23:50] <rep> really?
#3823 [23:50] <sinedeviance> rep: no, it isn't. you use mibbit you idiot.
#3824 [23:50] <sinedeviance> cant mask in mibbit.
#3825 [23:50] <rep> are you sure
#3826 [23:50] <Kaito> 24.22.247.181
#3827 [23:50] <Miniviper> heh minecraft.com is no fun lmfao
#3828 [23:50] <Kaito> :P
#3829 [23:50] <xales> you can't mask in Mibbit
#3830 [23:50] <rep> oh
#3831 [23:50] <xales> dumbass
#3832 [23:50] <rep> can i keep trolling then
#3833 [23:50] <sinedeviance> what a fool.
#3834 [23:50] <KART35|iPod> derp derp
#3835 [23:50] <Coll> ahahahahaha
#3836 [23:50] * xales gives you an executive pardon from cursing for the night
#3836 [23:50] <sinedeviance> is he actually a troll, or just REALLY dumb?
#3837 [23:50] <xales> sinedeviance: both
#3838 [23:50] <Miniviper> herpa derp derp
#3839 [23:50] <Kaito> xD
#3840 [23:50] <rep> i think both
#3841 [23:50] <sinedeviance> i've got $5 on really dumb
#3842 [23:50] <Miniviper> sorry xales didnt know
#3843 [23:50] <xales> rep: you should ask in #minecraft too
#3844 [23:50] <Coll> I think the later
#3845 [23:50] <xales> /join #minecraft
#3846 [23:51] <rep> ok guys
#3847 [23:51] <Diablothein> I popped in at the right time.
#3848 [23:51] <sinedeviance> rep: nah. if you were a troll that'd mean you had cunning. you have none.
#3849 [23:51] <KART35|iPod> i have 20 on hes a dumb troll
#3850 [23:51] <Coll> oh yeah minecraft would love you
#3851 [23:51] <Miniviper> oh wait! it was freaking thats better
#3852 [23:51] <sinedeviance> you're just really dumb.
#3853 [23:51] <rep> heres the real deal
#3854 [23:51] <Kaito> the "real deal?"
#3855 [23:51] <rep> my computer is having those problems
#3856 [23:51] <VelociCow> For multiplayer, how can we reset the game?
#3857 [23:51] <Kaito> of being inadequate?
#3858 [23:51] <sinedeviance> he's a 21 year old blonde who is insanely hawt?!
#3859 [23:51] <rep> and i didnt know about ubuntu
#3860 [23:51] * Cial [Cial@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3861 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> delete /world
#3862 [23:51] <rep> but im not that stupid
#3863 [23:51] <Kealper> rep: you live in Bellevue, WA, your zip code is 98006, and you have Comcast for an ISP
#3864 [23:51] <VelociCow> thank you!
#3865 [23:51] <Kaito> ubuntu = linux = only for computer gods
#3866 [23:51] <xales> Kealper: you can give a likely-telephone-area-code too
#3867 [23:51] <sinedeviance> ^this. = not you.
#3868 [23:51] <rep> i know the browser version cannot help me
#3869 [23:51] <Kaito> right
#3870 [23:52] <rep> im not that stupid
#3871 [23:52] * KART35|iPod hi fives Kaito
#3871 [23:52] * Kaito high fives Kart back
#3871 [23:52] <sinedeviance> but ... you WERE that stupid. just 20 minutes ago.
#3872 [23:52] <rep> i doubt anyone who could get on mibbit is that stupid
#3873 [23:52] <sinedeviance> dont try to deny it.
#3874 [23:52] <rep> i was troling
#3875 [23:52] <rep> trolling
#3876 [23:52] <sinedeviance> no, you're just saying that now to save face.
#3877 [23:52] <KART35|iPod> rep: you suck at trolling
#3878 [23:52] <sinedeviance> i know your game dude. dont bother.
#3879 [23:52] <Miniviper> the troll cant spell troll?
#3880 [23:52] <rep> o rly
#3881 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> rep, please leave.
#3882 [23:52] <Coll> rep
#3883 [23:52] <Kaito> admitting to being a troll = suck at trolling
#3884 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> gracefully.
#3885 [23:52] <sinedeviance> ya rly.
#3886 [23:52] <BurnZeZ> http://boards.4chan.org/r/res/7772764
#3887 [23:52] <Coll> you are a failing troll
#3888 [23:52] <rep> ok who wants me to leave
#3889 [23:52] <sinedeviance> ME!
#3890 [23:52] <Coll> filled with stupidity
#3891 [23:52] <Kaito> lol Burn
#3892 [23:52] * sinedeviance raises hand
#3892 [23:53] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: i asked, they wish to play with their food
#3893 [23:53] * sinedeviance raises OTHER hand
#3893 [23:53] <Coll> there is no way in hell you could troll a single person here
#3894 [23:53] <Coll> oh
#3895 [23:53] <sinedeviance> GTFO!
#3896 [23:53] <Coll> well
#3897 [23:53] <xales> BurnZeZ: I'm a 4chan newb. suggestions on how to reply?
#3898 [23:53] <sinedeviance> fail troll is fail :(
#3899 [23:53] <xales> wait for him to go to #minecraft
#3900 [23:53] <xales> >:D
#3901 [23:53] <sinedeviance> hehe
#3902 [23:53] <Kaito> oh god
#3903 [23:53] <xales> give me suggestions for a kick please
#3904 [23:53] <Coll> lol
#3905 [23:53] <xales> I need an EXCELLENT reason
#3906 [23:53] <sinedeviance> that'll be funny for the ten seconds it takes for him to get banned
#3907 [23:53] <Miniviper> nerpa derp troll derping fail derp!
#3908 [23:53] <Kealper> xales: excessive "herp derp" and a bit of porn image
#3909 [23:53] <xales> sinedeviance: 3 seconds
#3910 [23:53] <xales> Kealper: copypaste
#3911 [23:54] <BurnZeZ> xales: Say, "Let's make this newsworthy anon."
#3912 [23:54] <xales> done
#3913 [23:54] <BurnZeZ> :D
#3914 [23:55] <Miniviper> hay derp is awesome! spread the love of the word derp
#3915 [23:55] <KART35|iPod> derp!
#3916 [23:55] * Su2zuki [Su2zuki@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3917 [23:55] <Miniviper> :D
#3918 [23:56] <Kealper> well i'm done...going to bed now
#3919 [23:56] * sinedeviance-two [sinedeviance-two@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3920 [23:56] <KART35|iPod> bye
#3921 [23:56] <xales> sinedeviance: oh noes. a clone
#3922 [23:57] * sinedeviance [sinedeviance@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3923 [23:57] <xales> I want to play with my troll
#3924 [23:57] <xales> :(
#3925 [23:57] <Kaito> xales: sorry, but it's the trolls naptime
#3926 [23:57] <sinedeviance> eh, sorry about that
#3927 [23:57] <Kaito> tomorrow
#3928 [23:58] <sinedeviance> xales: i could troll you if you wanted
#3929 [23:58] <xales> no guarantee I'll be on tomorrow when the trolls are :(
#3930 [23:58] <Kaito> :(
#3931 [23:58] <Kaito> i love trolls
#3932 [23:58] <sinedeviance> xales: so er... can i play in browser
#3933 [23:58] <Kaito> only if god allows it
#3934 [23:58] <sinedeviance> i's not on my cmputer
#3935 [23:58] <sinedeviance> its on th einternet
#3936 [23:58] <KART35|iPod> no
#3937 [23:59] <KART35|iPod> on your pc
#3938 [23:59] <Kaito> xD
#3939 [23:59] <Miniviper> you cant?
#3940 [23:59] <KART35|iPod> too big for teh interwebz
#3941 [23:59] <Miniviper> I thought u just log on and play
#3942 [23:59] <sinedeviance> eh... it's just not the same :(
#3943 [23:59] <xales> sinedeviance: the piracy trolls are the best
#3944 [23:59] <sinedeviance> lol yeah.
#3945 [23:59] <xales> or just the piracy people
#3946 [23:59] <Kaito> whenever i'd play on the browser, it'd be laggy as hell
#3947 [23:59] <sinedeviance> "i havent bought the game YET, but ..."
#3948 [23:59] <xales> sinedeviance: not even that. they come in asking why they can't play multiplayer