#1 [00:00] <xales> when we explain to them the error means the account isnt premium and rejected from connecting to the server
#2 [00:00] <Miniviper> oh you mean... " HAY GUISES guess what? I just stole minecraft! arent I cool?"
#3 [00:00] <Kaito> some guy wanted to pirate minecraft
#4 [00:00] <Kaito> i was like "uh, no"
#5 [00:00] <xales> they ask how to get around it or where to get minecraft for free that works
#6 [00:00] <xales> and in that particular case
#7 [00:00] <Miniviper> pfft fail
#8 [00:00] <xales> he got a /kick in the ass
#9 [00:00] <Kaito> xD
#10 [00:00] <xales> because he was just unreasonably stupid
#11 [00:00] <Kaito> wait
#12 [00:01] <Kaito> minecraft free that works
#13 [00:01] <Kaito> minecraft classic
#14 [00:01] <Kaito> free, and works
#15 [00:01] <Kaito> :P
#16 [00:01] <xales> well, survival is what they wanted
#17 [00:01] <xales> :P
#18 [00:01] <Kaito> they never specified that ;P
#19 [00:01] <Miniviper> ah man I miss survival...
#20 [00:01] <Kaito> miss it?
#21 [00:01] <Kaito> what happened to it?
#22 [00:02] <Miniviper> yeah
#23 [00:02] <Miniviper> it was tooken off
#24 [00:02] <Miniviper> deleted...
#25 [00:02] <Kaito> ...
#26 [00:02] <Miniviper> gone! T-T
#27 [00:02] <Kaito> um
#28 [00:02] <Kaito> what?
#29 [00:02] <sinedeviance> <Miniviper> oh you mean... " HAY GUISES guess what? I just stole minecraft! arent I cool?" <-- i was in #minecraft one night and some dude came in posting tinyurl links to minecraft torrents
#30 [00:02] <Kaito> LOL
#31 [00:02] <sinedeviance> he was banned so fast he couldnt even say 'dont ban me!'
#32 [00:02] <Miniviper> hahahah wow
#33 [00:02] <Kaito> minecraft torrents...
#34 [00:02] <Kaito> it's a 233 kb download
#35 [00:03] <Kaito> anyone who has to /torrent/ that shoudln't be on the internet
#36 [00:03] <Miniviper> here is a link to survival... wait can I post it?
#37 [00:03] <sinedeviance> they were all old too, like 10.17 when 1.2.4 was out
#38 [00:03] <Kaito> im confused by what you mean by "it was deleted"
#39 [00:03] <Kaito> survival is out and kicking
#40 [00:03] <Miniviper> can I post the link?
#41 [00:03] <Kealper> to what?
#42 [00:03] <sinedeviance> Miniviper: no...
#43 [00:03] <Miniviper> ah dang....
#44 [00:03] <sinedeviance> Kealper: old survival version
#45 [00:03] <Kealper> a torrent? absolutely not
#46 [00:04] <Miniviper> torrent no
#47 [00:04] <sinedeviance> Miniviper: i dunno if you cant, i just wouldnt do it
#48 [00:04] <Miniviper> oh its just /survivaltest/ and the page is 404 not found on the website
#49 [00:04] <sinedeviance> eh, torrents arent BAD per se. a lot of legit software uses them to get distributed. linux distros for example.
#50 [00:04] <Kaito> ^
#51 [00:05] <Kaito> i knew an addon for freeware that used torrents as the main distrobution method
#52 [00:05] <Kealper> i meant a torrent of minecraft
#53 [00:05] <Kaito> since it was a fairly massive file
#54 [00:05] <sinedeviance> there was also some indie game that used torrents to distribute
#55 [00:05] <sinedeviance> cant remember what the name was though
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#57 [00:05] <Kaito> *legit question* why would a torrent of minecraft be bad?
#58 [00:05] <xales> so, sinedeviance, Kealper, etc who want a laugh
#59 [00:05] <xales> http://darksigns.net/dumbpirate.log
#60 [00:05] <Kaito> it's a free download...
#61 [00:05] <xales> Kaito: torrent of the .jar and stuff so you can play without buying it
#62 [00:05] <Kaito> ooohhh
#63 [00:05] <Kealper> because it's not a free download
#64 [00:05] <sinedeviance> xales: i do!
#65 [00:05] <xales> sinedeviance: clicky the link
#66 [00:05] <Kaito> i getchya
#67 [00:06] <Kaito> thank you
#68 [00:06] <xales> the "dude" was going to be "shitstain" if Miclee wasn't around
#69 [00:06] <xales> at the very end
#70 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> xales - Wasn't he in #MineCraftHelp right before that?
#71 [00:06] <xales> GreyVulpine: I don't know
#72 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> He was
#73 [00:07] <sinedeviance> ROFL
#74 [00:07] <xales> I see, he was. /me looks at logs. /me loves his logs
#75 [00:07] <sinedeviance> "Davo suck me plz?"
#76 [00:07] <sinedeviance> priceless!
#77 [00:07] <Miniviper> hahahahah wow
#78 [00:07] <xales> why the heck do my .logs not have timestamps
#79 [00:07] <Kealper> lul
#80 [00:07] <xales> or seconds in the timestamp anyway
#81 [00:07] <BurnZeZ> xales: Same here. Not sure.
#82 [00:07] <sinedeviance> xales: so... darksigns.net?
#83 [00:08] <xales> sinedeviance: what about it?
#84 [00:08] <Miniviper> can I get a link to survival?
#85 [00:08] <xales> Miniviper: beta = survival
#86 [00:08] <sinedeviance> xales: most IRC clients dont track seconds, only hours/minutes
#87 [00:08] <Miniviper> darn...
#88 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> pfft
#89 [00:08] <sinedeviance> irssi can track seconds by not be default. you have to add it to the configs. iirc anyway.
#90 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> mIRC does
#91 [00:08] * Kealper enabled seconds on his client
#91 [00:08] <Miniviper> I meant the old survival... someone said it was still running
#92 [00:08] <xales> Kealper, or whoever (for irssi) /set log_timestamp %H:%M:%S
#93 [00:09] <Miniviper> but its not right?
#94 [00:09] <xales> sinedeviance: irssi. it tracks if I turn it on. Which I just did
#95 [00:09] <Kealper> xales: that's what i did the first day i got irssi :P
#96 [00:09] <xales> Kealper: :P
#97 [00:09] <xales> the log timestamp and the terminal one are different
#98 [00:09] <Kealper> i read the crap out of those dics lol
#99 [00:09] <xales> which is what got me
#100 [00:09] <Kealper> woh
#101 [00:09] <Kealper> docs*
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#103 [00:11] <sinedeviance> *sigh*
#104 [00:11] <sinedeviance> my connection is killing me'
#105 [00:11] <Miniviper> if im right... my brother should come home tonight... and I can BUY MINECRAFT
#106 [00:12] <Miniviper> *hint*BUY*hint*
#107 [00:12] <sinedeviance> Miniviper: cool! when you buy minecraft you can use my texture pack (shameless plug)
#108 [00:12] <Miniviper> yay
#109 [00:12] <sinedeviance> ooh... pirate.
#110 [00:12] <sinedeviance> kickban?
#111 [00:12] <Miniviper> im no pirate
#112 [00:13] <Miniviper> I have 15 dollas waiting for my bro
#113 [00:13] <sinedeviance> <Miniviper> *hint*BUY*hint* <-- proof of guilt.
#114 [00:13] <KART35|iPod> YARR
#115 [00:13] <Miniviper> I was trying to make a joke about pirating...
#116 [00:13] * KART35|iPod looks for an eyepatch
#116 [00:13] <Miniviper> v.v
#117 [00:13] <sinedeviance> xales: what's that command to check status of a player?
#118 [00:13] <sinedeviance> Miniviper: i know, i was trollin yo' :D
#119 [00:13] <Kealper> !help
#120 [00:13] <Miniviper> trooooll!
#121 [00:13] <KART35|iPod> feel free to cjeck mine
#122 [00:14] <KART35|iPod> check*
#123 [00:14] <Kealper> !paid me
#124 [00:14] <sinedeviance> !paid me
#125 [00:14] <sinedeviance> ...
#126 [00:14] <sinedeviance> !ping
#127 [00:14] <GreyBot> sinedeviance Your Ping time was 0.781 Seconds.
#128 [00:14] <Kealper> DONOT start spamming everyone's name with that command please
#129 [00:14] <sinedeviance> wtf
#130 [00:14] <BurnZeZ> !ping
#131 [00:14] <GreyBot> BurnZeZ Your Ping time was 0.27 Seconds.
#132 [00:14] <KART35|iPod> !paid KART36
#133 [00:14] <BurnZeZ> Right on.
#134 [00:14] <KART35|iPod> whoops
#135 [00:14] <sinedeviance> jesus! 780msec lag
#136 [00:14] <KART35|iPod> :F
#137 [00:14] <Miniviper> lol cant wait till my birthday... new computer for minecraft. Right now I cant play cuz my computer sucks XD
#138 [00:14] <sinedeviance> thats the kind of lag you get from a morse code tapper D:
#139 [00:14] <xales> sinedeviance: some clients intentionally delay
#140 [00:15] <sinedeviance> !paid me
#141 [00:15] <xales> example
#142 [00:15] <xales> !ping
#143 [00:15] <GreyBot> xales Your Ping time was 3.445 Seconds.
#144 [00:15] <KART35|iPod> !paiD KART35
#145 [00:15] <sinedeviance> D:
#146 [00:15] <xales> however
#147 [00:15] <xales> if I ping google.com
#148 [00:15] <sinedeviance> christ almight
#149 [00:15] <Miniviper> !ping
#150 [00:15] <GreyBot> Miniviper Your Ping time was 0.501 Seconds.
#151 [00:15] <sinedeviance> y
#152 [00:15] <xales> PING google.com (173.194.33.104) 56(84) bytes of data.
#153 [00:15] <xales> 64 bytes from lga15s14-in-f104.1e100.net (173.194.33.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=1.97 ms
#154 [00:15] <sinedeviance> !ping google.com
#155 [00:15] <Kealper> what the fuck
#156 [00:15] <xales> then I will probably get the lowest ping you ever seen
#157 [00:15] <Kealper> 2ms ping?
#158 [00:16] <KART35|iPod> !ping
#159 [00:16] <Kealper> what is this sorcery!?
#160 [00:16] <GreyBot> KART35|iPod Your Ping time was 0.911 Seconds.
#161 [00:16] <sinedeviance> xales: 1.97 ms is very high.
#162 [00:16] <Miniviper> holy snapples! GREYbot... grey is my middle name
#163 [00:16] <KART35|iPod> derp
#164 [00:16] <sinedeviance> xales: on my REAL connection i used to ping ~30msec to google.
#165 [00:16] <xales> I'm on a multi-gigabit LAN with that server, Kealper :P
#166 [00:16] <xales> sinedeviance: troll
#167 [00:16] <Kealper> xales: oh...you cheater lol
#168 [00:16] <sinedeviance> xales: not a very fast one
#169 [00:16] <xales> very funy
#170 [00:17] <xales> clap clap because 30 is bigger than 2
#171 [00:17] <sinedeviance> xales: no, really. your latency sucks dude.
#172 [00:17] <sinedeviance> xales: rofl ... wow. i am such a noob man.
#173 [00:17] <sinedeviance> my bad
#174 [00:17] <Kealper> my ping to google would probably suck hard off this server
#175 [00:17] <xales> lol
#176 [00:17] <sinedeviance> i read 1.97 SEC not MSEC
#177 [00:17] <sinedeviance> sorry
#178 [00:17] <sinedeviance> DURR!
#179 [00:17] <xales> I wasn't sure if it was that or if you were trolling >.<
#180 [00:18] <Kealper> oh yea...super bad ping
#181 [00:18] <Miniviper> derp
#182 [00:18] <Kealper> 173, but it's 173 constant, no jitter :/
#183 [00:18] <Kealper> being on a server being hosted out of Panama ftl!
#184 [00:18] <Kealper> (the country, not the town)
#185 [00:18] <Miniviper> sinedeviance whats ur texture pack like
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#187 [00:19] <sinedeviance> ARGH
#188 [00:20] <Miniviper> should I ask again...
#189 [00:20] <Kealper> yes
#190 [00:20] <Kealper> he didn't see
#191 [00:20] <Miniviper> sinedeviance whats ur texture pack like
#192 [00:20] <sinedeviance> xales: is that a tier 3 connection?
#193 [00:21] <sinedeviance> Miniviper: thanks for asking! http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=131223
#194 [00:21] <xales> sinedeviance: I'm not sure off the top of my head
#195 [00:21] * xales didn't sleep for 48 hours ._.
#195 [00:21] <xales> youll have to tell me is what a tier 3 connection
#196 [00:21] <Miniviper> thaaaanks
#197 [00:22] <sinedeviance> xales: datacenter-level connection, above even ISPs.
#198 [00:22] <sinedeviance> xales: aka a god pipe.
#199 [00:22] <xales> I know what a tier 3 connection is, what connection are you asking about
#200 [00:22] <sinedeviance> xales: the one that pings 2msec to google.
#201 [00:22] <Miniviper> wait is the lava all tile looking?
#202 [00:23] <Miniviper> lul you have a grappling hook...
#203 [00:23] <Kealper> sinedeviance: i'm lichen it
#204 [00:23] <xales> oh uh
#205 [00:23] <xales> let me look
#206 [00:23] <sinedeviance> Miniviper: yeah. a lot of the textures follow the same mosaic pattern, but with different color palettes
#207 [00:23] <sinedeviance> xales: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=131223
#208 [00:24] <Miniviper> lol cool
#209 [00:24] <sinedeviance> btw, those screenshots are of v1. i have changed a few of the textures in them since then.
#210 [00:24] <xales> sinedeviance: http://www.nac.net/images/networkmaps/nacnetworkmap.gif
#211 [00:24] <xales> I'm in the Newark facility
#212 [00:24] <xales> "NWR"
#213 [00:24] <sinedeviance> xales: new jersey, eh?
#214 [00:25] <xales> yeah
#215 [00:25] <sinedeviance> jesus
#216 [00:25] <sinedeviance> 2x dark fiber D:
#217 [00:25] <xales> also, rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.032/2.194/2.320/0.120 ms
#218 [00:25] <xales> for google.com
#219 [00:25] <sinedeviance> 10GBit ethernet VPN's
#220 [00:25] <sinedeviance> thats fucking insane D:
#221 [00:25] <xales> >:D
#222 [00:26] <sinedeviance> xales: you guys use a VPN client or is it hard-config'd into your client OSes>?
#223 [00:26] <xales> sinedeviance: VPN client for what?
#224 [00:26] <xales> also, from home.
#225 [00:26] <xales> PING darksigns.net (69.164.213.202): 56 data bytes
#226 [00:26] <xales> 64 bytes from 69.164.213.202: icmp_seq=0 ttl=49 time=16.581 ms
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#228 [00:26] <sinedeviance> xales: uh, for the VPN network in your network map. all those red lines are VPN's.
#229 [00:27] <xales> oh
#230 [00:27] <xales> I don't know
#231 [00:27] <sinedeviance> ties your company intranet together
#232 [00:27] <xales> not my company
#233 [00:27] <xales> I don't work for them
#234 [00:27] <sinedeviance> ah
#235 [00:27] <sinedeviance> nevermind then :D
#236 [00:27] <xales> my server is in their datacenter
#237 [00:27] <sinedeviance> sorry
#238 [00:27] <xales> lol
#239 [00:28] <sinedeviance> Kealper: thanks btw.
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#241 [00:29] <spunkybd> Hello?
#242 [00:29] <sinedeviance> spunkybd: hi!
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#244 [00:30] <sinedeviance> spunkybd: need help?
#245 [00:30] <spunkybd> Im having troubles with a mod/plugin was wondering if you knew about it
#246 [00:30] <spunkybd> Its called single player commands
#247 [00:30] <sinedeviance> spunkybd: we dont officially support mods.
#248 [00:30] <spunkybd> oh
#249 [00:30] <sinedeviance> spunkybd: ...and that one in particular is problematic. it doesn't work with most of the mods out there.
#250 [00:31] <spunkybd> I see
#251 [00:31] <sinedeviance> spunkybd: try asking in #risucraft
#252 [00:31] <Miniviper> I need help...to get my brother home so I can buy minecraft... but one giant problem my computer probably wont run it unless online v.v
#253 [00:31] <sinedeviance> spunkybd: but be warned, they are NOT a support channel.
#254 [00:31] <Blitz_9100> Miniviper, You can play Minecraft offline if you download it once while connected to the internet
#255 [00:32] <Miniviper> no blitz its just my computer has a bad graphics card... like its really old
#256 [00:32] <xales> Blitz_9100: he means system spec wise
#257 [00:32] <xales> Miniviper: they it probably won't run offline or not
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#259 [00:32] <Miniviper> ah... no way! not even online
#260 [00:32] <xales> online just means the server does a marginal amount of processing
#261 [00:33] <xales> all the graphics still have to be rendered by your computer
#262 [00:33] <Miniviper> dangit! I dont want to wait like three weeks to play minecraft...
#263 [00:33] <xales> play classic?
#264 [00:33] <sinedeviance> spunkybd: ... i told you they werent a support channel :D find the author of the mod
#265 [00:33] <Miniviper> or even longer because I would have to setup internet on the new computer
#266 [00:33] <xales> sinedeviance: what happened? lol
#267 [00:33] <Miniviper> classic is no fun... just building and destroying v.v
#268 [00:34] <xales> Miniviper: watch youtube videos
#269 [00:34] <xales> there are quite a few
#270 [00:34] <Miniviper> I have no sound
#271 [00:34] <xales> get headphones? =/
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#273 [00:34] <Miniviper> no I mean a virus literally killed my sound drive
#274 [00:34] <xales> ...
#275 [00:34] <xales> its not hard to fix that
#276 [00:34] <xales> lol
#277 [00:34] <sinedeviance> Miniviper: reinstall.
#278 [00:34] <xales> ^
#279 [00:35] <Miniviper> I tried that... but this was not my computer to start with
#280 [00:35] <VelociCow> When playing multiplayer, is there a way to stop zombies from exploding when killing them?
#281 [00:35] <xales> VelociCow: you mean creepers? don't go near them
#282 [00:35] <Miniviper> just shoot them
#283 [00:35] <VelociCow> they're green monsters. ni sure what they're called
#284 [00:35] <xales> creepers
#285 [00:35] <xales> get a bow and arrow or just kite them
#286 [00:36] <VelociCow> so they won't explode if we kill them away from us?
#287 [00:36] <Blitz_9100> Yes
#288 [00:36] <Blitz_9100> If you hear a ssss run
#289 [00:36] <Blitz_9100> its more of a hiss
#290 [00:36] <Miniviper> but yeah... I got this computer from a friend of my father... it was loaded with "special" videos which took up memory so are deleted :) im a good boy!
#291 [00:36] <xales> Miniviper: reinstall the OS
#292 [00:36] <Blitz_9100> You can also defuse the damage by bringing them into water
#293 [00:37] <xales> if you had a virus, and stuff it "broke" still isn't there, then the virus is still there
#294 [00:37] <VelociCow> we're wanting to avoid them blowing up and destroying the land. is that possible?
#295 [00:37] <sinedeviance> <xales> sinedeviance: what happened? lol <-- he went right in and ASKED for support :\
#296 [00:37] <sinedeviance> some people just dont get it man
#297 [00:37] <xales> sinedeviance: did he get kicked or something?
#298 [00:37] <sinedeviance> no. <CyborgDragon> spunkybd: read the rules first?
#299 [00:37] <xales> lol
#300 [00:37] <xales> I need to get in on that channel
#301 [00:37] <Miniviper> I have done so many virus scans... it was a few months ago too
#302 [00:37] <Miniviper> and OS?
#303 [00:38] <xales> Miniviper: OS = operating system = windows
#304 [00:38] <xales> also, if it still doesn't work, then the virus is likely still there
#305 [00:38] <xales> AKA, a rootkit
#306 [00:38] <Miniviper> so how do I do that
#307 [00:39] <xales> you get a windows XP cd and put it in the computer
#308 [00:39] <xales> back up anything you want to save
#309 [00:39] <Miniviper> I have windows live onecare and PC tools spyware protection
#310 [00:39] <xales> both of those are garbage
#311 [00:40] <Miniviper> really
#312 [00:40] <xales> yes
#313 [00:40] <xales> generally, if its not free, its bad. if its made by microsoft, its bad
#314 [00:40] <xales> if its called something generic, its bad
#315 [00:41] <Miniviper> oh dang...
#316 [00:41] <Miniviper> then what should I get
#317 [00:41] <xales> well, at this point its too late
#318 [00:41] <xales> there is no easy way to remove a rootkit
#319 [00:41] <Miniviper> plus idk where to get a windows xp disc
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#321 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Your local computer store
#322 [00:41] <Miniviper> no computer stores by me....
#323 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Oh wait, xp?
#324 [00:41] <xales> or look for it with the disks that came with the computer, it may include a "reinstall" disk
#325 [00:42] <Miniviper> I said its not my computer to start with
#326 [00:42] <xales> or just do what we all do and get it from that great store on the internet where everything is cheap
#327 [00:42] <Kaito> cake is coming thursday; does anyone know if notch will release the crafting recipe?
#328 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> maybe
#329 [00:42] <Kaito> I hope so
#330 [00:42] <xales> Kaito: notch is sleeping. it will be thursday when he wakes up
#331 [00:42] <Miniviper> if I click on the volume it says no audio hardrive installed
#332 [00:42] <Kaito> right
#333 [00:42] <xales> so he will probably release the patch and have 10 seconds for people to post it
#334 [00:42] <Kaito> gah
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#336 [00:42] <Kaito> im excited
#337 [00:42] <Kaito> :P
#338 [00:43] <xales> Miniviper: your computer has a virus. its generally bad to leave it there
#339 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Oh, the recipe has already been released
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#341 [00:43] <xales> if its not your computer, ask someone
#342 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> for cake
#343 [00:43] <Kaito> oh?
#344 [00:43] <clone1018> and pie
#345 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, on notch's twitter
#346 [00:43] <Kaito> >_>
#347 [00:43] <Kaito> i dont follow twitter :P
#348 [00:43] <clone1018> Ya
#349 [00:43] <Miniviper> im just going to wait for my new computer *giant sigh*
#350 [00:43] <clone1018> Follow @notch
#351 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> twitter.com/notch/status/24557720786964480
#352 [00:43] <clone1018> not @twitter
#353 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> The recipe for cake is milk*3 + sugar*3 + wheat*3. Of course. (You will get the buckets for the milk back)
#354 [00:44] <Kaito> you are amazing
#355 [00:44] <Kaito> thank you
#356 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> I believe he modified one of those to have eggs though
#357 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> since you can't have a cake without eggs
#358 [00:44] <Kaito> yeah...sugar?
#359 [00:44] <Miniviper> shuga canes!
#360 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> I don't remember
#361 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> It was a later tweet
#362 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> Too tired to dig it up
#363 [00:45] <Kaito> thats okay, thank you anyway
#364 [00:45] <Kaito> im sure someone will post it
#365 [00:45] <Kaito> :P
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#367 [00:45] <Tork232> Could anyone maybe help me with forum issues?
#368 [00:45] <clone1018> Tork232: Ask the question. Dont ask to ask.
#369 [00:47] <Tork232> Ive been having problems with my account on the forums, i forgot my password and i did the forgot password crap, after about 72 hours i have not recived an email and ive tried multi times, HOW TO FIX IT?
#370 [00:47] <clone1018> #rsw
#371 [00:47] <xales> Tork232: did you look in the spam folder?
#372 [00:47] <clone1018> Paste that
#373 [00:47] <Tork232> @xales yes
#374 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> Tork232 - Email daniel@mojang.com with your problem.
#375 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> He'll get you sorted out
#376 [00:47] <xales> Tork232: do the forgot password thing again
#377 [00:47] <xales> GreyVulpine: its a forum issue
#378 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> oh bah
#379 [00:47] <Tork232> Ive done it multi times
#380 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> Shows you how tired I am
#381 [00:48] <clone1018> Tork232: Talk to the guys at #rsw
#382 [00:48] <xales> Tork232: what website is the email with
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#384 [00:48] <Tork232> Huh
#385 [00:48] <Tork232> its for the Minecraft Forums
#386 [00:48] <xales> no
#387 [00:48] <clone1018> Type /join #rsw
#388 [00:48] <xales> I mean what is after the @
#389 [00:48] <Tork232> i did clone.
#390 [00:48] <clone1018> They are the head admins
#391 [00:48] <Tork232> live.com
#392 [00:48] <clone1018> Talk to them
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#395 [00:50] <Miniviper> My challenge for someone: Destroy everyblock in minecraft classic and leave nothing but the bottom
#396 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Or, just download a flat map
#397 [00:51] <Miniviper> v.v
#398 [00:52] <Kaito> my challenge for someone: make their house out of nothing but diamond blocks
#399 [00:52] <Kaito> :P
#400 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> MCedit. been there, done that
#401 [00:52] <Tork232> @clone thank you so much :)
#402 [00:52] <Kaito> xD
#403 [00:52] <Kaito> nice
#404 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Now, try doing it out of obsidian, with hidden redstone wiring..
#405 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Then I'd be impressed
#406 [00:53] <Kaito> planning
#407 [00:53] <Kaito> been there, done that
#408 [00:53] <Kaito> :P
#409 [00:53] <Kaito> actually, i havent
#410 [00:53] <Kaito> it's a bitch to hide redstone
#411 [00:53] <clone1018> yes
#412 [00:53] <clone1018> All my redstone is where everyone can see it
#413 [00:53] <Kaito> i REALLY hope the creepers didn't blow up the wiring to my door...
#414 [00:53] <Kaito> i'd be sad
#415 [00:53] <clone1018> My door is made of wood
#416 [00:54] <clone1018> my fault is made of iron
#417 [00:54] <clone1018> vault
#418 [00:54] <Kaito> my main door is iron
#419 [00:54] <Kaito> and theres an and gate to open it
#420 [00:54] <Kaito> pressure plate and button
#421 [00:54] <clone1018> I dont see the point in that :P
#422 [00:54] <Kaito> so no creepers get in
#423 [00:54] <Kaito> :P
#424 [00:54] <clone1018> Wooden doors work fine
#425 [00:54] <Cial> i finally learnt how to make a clock circuit thing
#426 [00:54] <Kaito> well, i wanted an iron door
#427 [00:55] <clone1018> lolk
#428 [00:55] <Cial> o/
#429 [00:55] <Kaito> you know know when a creeper is going to learn to open the door
#430 [00:55] <Kaito> :P
#431 [00:55] <Kaito> *never know
#432 [00:55] <VelociCow> is there any way to regain health?
#433 [00:55] <Kaito> that should be an easter egg Notch should put in: just one, random time, mobs can open doors and destroy blocks and stuff
#434 [00:55] <Kaito> VelociCow: food
#435 [00:55] <VelociCow> how do you eat?
#436 [00:56] <Kaito> get pork, or bread, and right click with it selected
#437 [00:56] <Miniviper> ....
#438 [00:56] <VelociCow> thanks :)
#439 [00:57] <clone1018> VelociCow: Your name is poop yellow x.x
#440 [00:57] <Miniviper> I found the best cave eva! its giant and filled with ores and tons and tons of mushrooms! yayyy
#441 [00:57] <Kaito> i can NEVER find mushrooms
#442 [00:57] <Kaito> >_>
#443 [00:57] <Miniviper> want a screen shot?
#444 [00:58] <Kaito> sure
#445 [00:58] <Miniviper> k just wait awhile
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#447 [00:59] <vertoc> hello
#448 [00:59] <vertoc> ?
#449 [00:59] <Kaito> hi
#450 [00:59] <vertoc> anyone here
#451 [00:59] <Miniviper> and dude its so odd lol I just found this while digging down....
#452 [00:59] <vertoc> oh did someone come on here with the same username
#453 [00:59] <vertoc> >
#454 [00:59] <vertoc> ?
#455 [00:59] <xales> vertoc: welcome back troll
#456 [00:59] <xales> GreyVulpine:
#457 [00:59] <vertoc> ah i see he did
#458 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> vertoc, please leave.
#459 [01:00] <vertoc> I would just like to apologize
#460 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> We can see you're the same person.
#461 [01:00] <vertoc> it was my friend on the computer
#462 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> No, it wasn't.
#463 [01:00] <vertoc> and I am going to leave forever
#464 [01:00] <clone1018> lol
#465 [01:00] <vertoc> Yeah, I wouldnt believe me either
#466 [01:00] <vertoc> but its true
#467 [01:00] <vertoc> so i dont care whether you believe me or not
#468 [01:00] <vertoc> I just wanted to say sorry
#469 [01:00] <vertoc> and goodbye
#470 [01:00] * GreyVulpine waves.
#470 [01:00] <Kaito> bye
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#472 [01:01] <Kaito> dont let the door hit you ont he way...late
#473 [01:01] <clone1018> I liked him
#474 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> On that note, it's 1 in the morning.
#475 [01:01] <Blitz_9100> Woah
#476 [01:01] * GreyVulpine heads off.
#476 [01:01] <Kaito> good night Grey
#477 [01:01] <Blitz_9100> Internet crashed =/
#478 [01:01] <Miniviper> almost done...
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#480 [01:02] <Miniviper> here is the link http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=334n49l&s=7
#481 [01:02] <Kaito> lucky bitch!
#482 [01:03] <clone1018> Thats classic
#483 [01:03] <Miniviper> lol
#484 [01:03] <Miniviper> yeah
#485 [01:03] <Miniviper> sadly it is
#486 [01:03] <Miniviper> I almost got minecraft... just waiting on my bro
#487 [01:03] <Kaito> why are you waiting?
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#489 [01:03] <Miniviper> but dude... big cave with coal... iron and tons of stuff
#490 [01:03] <Miniviper> oh he aint here yet so I cant get ti
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#493 [01:06] <Miniviper> cool I just hit lava
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#497 [01:25] <aetherian> hello
#498 [01:26] <xales> nou
#499 [01:28] <aetherian> nous sommes de soleil... now that was a good song
#500 [01:28] <aetherian> well
#501 [01:28] <aetherian> technically
#502 [01:28] <aetherian> ritual/nous sommes de soleil
#503 [01:28] <aetherian> not that I'm spelling that right, most likely
#504 [01:30] <aetherian> minecraft rephrases many deep questions
#505 [01:31] <MK> Do all items have the same explosion resistance? (ie, the same "weight")
#506 [01:31] <aetherian> such as "am I alone?" "what happends beyond the grave" and "if a tree falls in a forest and the chunk isn't loaded, did it really fall?"
#507 [01:32] <aetherian> mk, no.
#508 [01:32] <xales> MK: no
#509 [01:32] <xales> most are close enough that it doesn't really matter
#510 [01:32] <aetherian> >.>
#511 [01:32] <MK> Ah, is there a list?
#512 [01:32] <xales> minecraftwiki.net
#513 [01:32] <xales> look up Explosion I believe
#514 [01:32] <aetherian> use obsidian for bomb shelters.
#515 [01:32] <MK> It only lists blocks
#516 [01:32] <aetherian> :)
#517 [01:33] <MK> not items
#518 [01:34] <xales> oh, items?
#519 [01:34] <xales> they aren't affected by explosions AFAIK
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#521 [01:36] <whidgle> h i
#522 [01:37] <xales> h i
#523 [01:37] <whidgle> :)
#524 [01:37] <Miniviper> heyyyy im getting minecraft now
#525 [01:38] <MK> Ok xales
#526 [01:39] <whidgle> I lost power when I was playing minecraft and once the power came back, I went to look and the world I was using isn't there anymore, it's just empty. Did it like, get corrupted cause it was in the process of saving and it crashed and the worlds all gone or is there maybe some way to save it? :o
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#528 [01:39] <xales> that would be correct
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#530 [01:39] <Gamerfan6745> hi
#531 [01:39] <xales> hello
#532 [01:39] <razidius> i ned hel.p
#533 [01:39] <whidgle> Boo :(
#534 [01:40] <xales> what do you need help with?
#535 [01:40] <Miniviper> hey what is the credit card number? Is it the really long one?
#536 [01:40] <Gamerfan6745> how to add irc to my server
#537 [01:40] <whidgle> It's the number on the card
#538 [01:40] <Gamerfan6745> i googled it nothing
#539 [01:40] <Miniviper> k
#540 [01:41] <xales> Miniviper: yes
#541 [01:41] <xales> Gamerfan6745: we don't support mods, sorrt
#542 [01:41] <Gamerfan6745> oh
#543 [01:41] <Gamerfan6745> ok
#544 [01:41] <Gamerfan6745> cya then
#545 [01:41] <razidius> i try ran miencraft-srvaer and itwork no
#546 [01:42] <xales> razidius: what doesn't work
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#549 [01:43] <xales> funny, GLaDOS, actually
#550 [01:43] <xales> look in *snip*
#551 [01:43] <Miniviper> ...almost....have...it....
#552 [01:43] <GLaDOS> hm?
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#554 [01:43] <Miniviper> PURCHASE COMPLETE!
#555 [01:43] <Miniviper> !paid me
#556 [01:43] <razidius> I can not snatall jav on wnodws 95
#557 [01:43] <razidius> i ned ran minecraft-servr
#558 [01:43] <xales> GLaDOS: other channel
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#560 [01:44] <Super_Meat_Boy> oh
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#562 [01:44] <xales> razidius: well obviously it doesn't work on windows 95
#563 [01:44] <xales> also, please make an effort to type properly
#564 [01:44] <razidius> y no?
#565 [01:44] <xales> windows 95 is too old
#566 [01:44] <razidius> i usn on scren keybrd
#567 [01:45] <clone1018> :|
#568 [01:45] <Miniviper> !!!!!!! i just crapped myself! im playing it right now... and I have a world already in the making????
#569 [01:45] * xales kicked razidius from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: I'm sick of these motherfucking trolls in my motherfucking channel)
#570 [01:45] <clone1018> I couldn't put up with this crap
#571 [01:45] <xales> clone1018: he is using a proxy
#572 [01:45] <Miniviper> hahahahah nice one xales
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#574 [01:45] <razidius> why kack?
#575 [01:45] <razidius> kick*
#576 [01:45] <clone1018> I just meant idiots
#577 [01:45] <clone1018> Oh well
#578 [01:45] <clone1018> I sleep now
#579 [01:45] <GLaDOS> 1. GET OFF OF THE PROXY
#580 [01:45] <clone1018> Its cold
#581 [01:46] <GLaDOS> 2. LEARN ENGLISH
#582 [01:46] <razidius> it no proxy
#583 [01:46] <GLaDOS> 3. brb reporting working proxy to ircops
#584 [01:46] <xales> GLaDOS: thanky
#585 [01:46] <xales> razidius: it obviously is
#586 [01:46] <razidius> hw?
#587 [01:46] <xales> GEOIP for the win, fool
#588 [01:46] <xales> "your" IP is assigned to hostdime.com
#589 [01:46] <xales> http://www.maxmind.com/app/locate_demo_ip?ips=64.37.51.50
#590 [01:46] <GLaDOS> razidius whats your isp
#591 [01:46] <xales> which is a server provider, not a home ISP
#592 [01:47] <razidius> 64.37.51.50
#593 [01:47] <GLaDOS> thats your IP, retard
#594 [01:47] <whidgle> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Backup_Utility#Backup_Utilities Would anyone have any reccomendations on any of these they've used to fix a corrupted or restore an older version of it? Thank you c:
#595 [01:47] <razidius> i ned help wih srvr that y i on
#596 [01:47] * GLaDOS kicked razidius from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: I AM SICK, OF THESE MOTHERFUCKING RETARDS, IN MY MOTHERFUCKING CHANNEL also #mcserver)
#597 [01:48] <xales> whidgle: try mcedit -> open world and resave
#598 [01:48] <GLaDOS> thar
#599 [01:48] <xales> lol, nice banmask
#600 [01:48] <clone1018> MOTHERFUCKING
#601 [01:48] <clone1018> Nice
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#603 [01:48] <aetherian> glados, kinda harsh
#604 [01:48] <xales> aetherian, no
#605 [01:48] <aetherian> yeah guess not
#606 [01:48] <Greg> hey i really need help
#607 [01:48] <GLaDOS> aetherian: no, no
#608 [01:48] <Greg> im trying to play minecraft
#609 [01:48] <aetherian> I can't read the sentence
#610 [01:48] <Greg> and it won't load
#611 [01:48] <aetherian> :|
#612 [01:49] <xales> define "won't load"
#613 [01:49] <Greg> i redownloaded it like 5 times
#614 [01:49] <Greg> and it still wont load
#615 [01:49] <Greg> like
#616 [01:49] <GLaDOS> Greg, moar details?
#617 [01:49] <Greg> it says done loading
#618 [01:49] <aetherian> did you delete .minecraft?
#619 [01:49] <GLaDOS> does it blackscreen?
#620 [01:49] <Greg> no
#621 [01:49] <xales> aetherian: stfu for a second
#622 [01:49] <Greg> it says done loading with the bar almost filled
#623 [01:49] <Greg> and it just stays like that
#624 [01:49] <xales> !reinstall
#625 [01:49] <xales> do that
#626 [01:49] <GLaDOS> hm
#627 [01:49] <Greg> ive tried everything and nothing has worked
#628 [01:49] <Miniviper> lol I just found "creeper island"
#629 [01:50] <xales> GLaDOS: esper runs an open proxy scanner, right?
#630 [01:50] <GLaDOS> yes
#631 [01:50] <GLaDOS> feel free to report him
#632 [01:50] <GLaDOS> and provide dns replies
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#634 [01:51] <xales> well, I'm running on a "proxy" too
#635 [01:51] <xales> i think they only care if its an open proxy or a ban evasion
#636 [01:51] <clone1018> Open proxy only
#637 [01:51] <Greg> ok
#638 [01:51] <GLaDOS> ah
#639 [01:51] <Greg> now im getting the black screen
#640 [01:51] <clone1018> Why would a proxy be banned
#641 [01:51] <clone1018> That doesnt make any sense
#642 [01:51] <GLaDOS> im not unbanning him though
#643 [01:51] <xales> Greg: what are the specs on your computer
#644 [01:51] <GLaDOS> he's and idiot
#645 [01:51] <xales> GLaDOS: not saying you should
#646 [01:52] <xales> Greg: graphics card, CPU, RAM
#647 [01:52] <clone1018> he is and idiot?
#648 [01:52] <Solvius> goodmorning
#649 [01:52] <clone1018> :|
#650 [01:52] <Greg> um
#651 [01:52] <clone1018> Not much better then him GLaDOS
#652 [01:52] <clone1018> *him/her
#653 [01:52] <Greg> the processor is
#654 [01:52] <clone1018> whatever the fuck
#655 [01:52] <GLaDOS> clone1018: lrn2purpose mistake
#656 [01:52] <Greg> 2 ghz intel core 2 duo
#657 [01:52] <Greg> mac
#658 [01:52] <clone1018> nu
#659 [01:52] <Greg> memory is
#660 [01:52] <Greg> 1 gb 667 mhz ddr2 sdram
#661 [01:53] <Greg> grahics card is a gma 950
#662 [01:53] <Greg> i've played minecraft perfectly before
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#664 [01:53] <Greg> but i tried to add mods to it
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#666 [01:53] <razfandus> i sorry
#667 [01:53] <Greg> and i just messed up my files
#668 [01:53] <razfandus> i try typ english
#669 [01:53] <xales> razfandus: don't evade bans
#670 [01:53] <xales> GLaDOS: wanna come with me to the party channel?
#671 [01:53] <Miniviper> bai bai
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#673 [01:54] <razfandus> but it s=was unfair
#674 [01:54] <razfandus> i didn do anythng
#675 [01:54] <ConMan8> razfandus: Ban evading is even worse than getting ban, and you may be permanently removed from teh network
#676 [01:54] <xales> will* more like it
#677 [01:54] <razfandus> but i wan elp
#678 [01:55] <GLaDOS> xales yes
#679 [01:55] * GLaDOS kicked razfandus from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: BAN EVADAR!!!11!!11!!!!111!!ONE!!11!)
#680 [01:56] <xales> also, GLaDOS, I hate to say it
#681 [01:56] <xales> but I told you so
#682 [01:57] <GLaDOS> <razidius> YOU MOTHER FUCKING BITCH ASS CUNT SUCKING LIZARD FUCKER FROM NIGERIA
#683 [01:57] <GLaDOS> <razidius> UNBAN ME NOW
#684 [01:57] <GLaDOS> <GLaDOS> u mad?
#685 [01:57] <GLaDOS> <GLaDOS> :B
#686 [01:57] <xales> LOL
#687 [01:57] <Greg> how do i back up my folders in my bin folder
#688 [01:57] <Greg> i think thats the problem
#689 [01:57] <Greg> i don't have a saves folder or resources folder
#690 [01:57] <xales> Greg: just delete the bin folder
#691 [01:58] <clone1018> rm -Rf /
#692 [01:58] <clone1018> I accidentally
#693 [01:58] <xales> dun dun dun
#694 [01:58] <clone1018> nud nud nud
#695 [01:58] <Greg> i still get the black screen -.-
#696 [01:59] <clone1018> fffffffffffffffffffffffffuck
#697 [01:59] <clone1018> Its 31F in my room
#698 [01:59] <clone1018> NOT COOL
#699 [01:59] <clone1018> heh pun
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#702 [02:06] <clone1018> 10:06 <Cial> my creative servers ran well
#703 [02:06] <clone1018> 10:06 <Cial> untill the phone rang
#704 [02:07] <clone1018> LOLOLOL
#705 [02:07] <Cial> -_-
#706 [02:07] <Cial> not cool man
#707 [02:07] <Cial> not cool
#708 [02:07] <clone1018> I'm loling so hard
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#710 [02:07] <Cial> Cial's land of lag wasn't that laggy honestly
#711 [02:07] <clone1018> lolol
#712 [02:08] <xales> Cial: server? on dialup? not laggy? using a non-text based protocol? wut
#713 [02:08] <Cial> xales, yes i used to host a creative server when i was bored
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#715 [02:08] <clone1018> even on a text based protocol xales
#716 [02:09] <xales> and it didn't lag? :O
#717 [02:09] <Cial> not to bad
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#719 [02:09] <clone1018> OH MY GOD
#720 [02:09] <Cial> it was a 256^3 flatgrass
#721 [02:09] <xales> clone1018: text based protocols (telnet, later FTP, IRC) were designed to function over dialup
#722 [02:09] <clone1018> Is that haley williams?
#723 [02:09] <clone1018> but servers?
#724 [02:09] <clone1018> Hosting 5-10 clients?
#725 [02:09] <xales> yes, servers.
#726 [02:09] <clone1018> hrmph
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#728 [02:09] <xales> you would have one client per telephone line, usually
#729 [02:10] <Cial> the most i had on at one time was 5
#730 [02:10] <xales> a system with 10 lines could host 10 simul. users
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#732 [02:12] <Cial> but i only have 1 line
#733 [02:12] <xales> yeah, but you also have a modem
#734 [02:12] <xales> and more than one person can dial into you
#735 [02:13] <Cial> \o/
#736 [02:13] <Cial> im not from the 80's
#737 [02:13] <clone1018> lol
#738 [02:13] <xales> I mean that was waaaaay back when you literally had a phone call with the recieving machine
#739 [02:13] <clone1018> You just keep thinking that
#740 [02:13] <Cial> clone1018, my estimates are that im working on equipment from '95
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#750 [02:42] <jdodson99> I need some help with the WoM client/wrapper thingy
#751 [02:42] <xales> we don't support mods here, sorry
#752 [02:42] <jdodson99> I'm running Mac OS 10.5.8
#753 [02:42] <Cial> #wom can help you
#754 [02:42] <jdodson99> Orly?
#755 [02:42] <xales> but try #wom
#756 [02:42] <jdodson99> Heh, whoops then
#757 [02:42] <xales> /join #wom
#758 [02:42] <Cial> tis ok
#759 [02:43] <jdodson99> Everyone in #wom is dead :/
#760 [02:43] <clone1018> jdodson99: irc.synirc.net #wom
#761 [02:44] <jdodson99> Ooh
#762 [02:44] <Cial> they moved back clone1018
#763 [02:44] <Cial> after the lacour incident
#764 [02:44] <jdodson99> Yeah, because I got a random... foreign page.
#765 [02:44] <jdodson99> Lacour incident?
#766 [02:44] <clone1018> oh
#767 [02:44] <clone1018> wat
#768 [02:44] <clone1018> no
#769 [02:44] <Cial> one of the wom admins lost his bloody mind
#770 [02:45] <jdodson99> OIC.
#771 [02:45] <lukegb> ...
#772 [02:45] <lukegb> Cial: and did what?
#773 [02:45] <clone1018> http://world-of-minecraft.com/
#774 [02:45] <Cial> tried to take over
#775 [02:45] <clone1018> they are both still there
#776 [02:45] <Cial> oh?
#777 [02:45] <lukegb> lol ;p
#778 [02:45] <Cial> i dont think thats the legit one clone1018
#779 [02:45] <Cial> lacour is running a world of minecraft site too
#780 [02:46] <Cial> http://www.worldofminecraft.com/ this is the legit one
#781 [02:47] <clone1018> Hello I want to make one page of internet
#782 [02:47] <clone1018> FAILURE
#783 [02:47] <jdodson99> LOL.
#784 [02:47] <clone1018> Cial: I know buy synirc is more active
#785 [02:47] <Cial> oh i was talking about websites
#786 [02:48] <jdodson99> Blargh, WHY IS EVERYONE ON #WOM DEAD!?
#787 [02:48] * jdodson99 sobs quietly in a corner
#787 [02:48] <Cial> its late even for them
#788 [02:48] <Cial> er well early for most of them i mean
#789 [02:48] <jdodson99> o_O It's only 11pm
#790 [02:48] <Cial> 2 am here
#791 [02:48] <xales> 3am here
#792 [02:48] <jdodson99> WOAH.
#793 [02:48] <Cial> time zones man
#794 [02:48] <jdodson99> Oh yeah...
#795 [02:48] <Cial> er well 2:48
#796 [02:49] <Cial> xales, quit telling time like a Spaniard
#797 [02:49] <clone1018> jdodson99: irc.synirc.net #wom
#798 [02:49] <Cial> that will be /server then /join
#799 [02:49] <xales> Cial: nou
#800 [02:49] <Cial> encase you didnt know
#801 [02:50] <jdodson99> I got a bunch of garbage :/
#802 [02:50] <xales> lol, I just realized I'm an op on every minecraft channel >.>
#803 [02:50] <jdodson99> *waiting for pastebin to work*
#804 [02:50] <jdodson99> http://mibpaste.com/IVBGIH
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#806 [02:50] <xales> oh
#807 [02:50] <xales> your using mibbit
#808 [02:50] <xales> that network doesn't support mibbit
#809 [02:50] <xales> sorry
#810 [02:51] <mib_ln722a> hey anyone here that can help me
#811 [02:51] <xales> mib_ln722a: in #minecrafthelp? no
#812 [02:51] <Cial> ah what a dream world that must be xales
#813 [02:51] <xales> Cial: believe it
#814 [02:51] <mib_ln722a> why?
#815 [02:51] <xales> mib_ln722a: that was sarcasm
#816 [02:51] <xales> ._.
#817 [02:51] <mib_ln722a> does anyone know why the game is laggy after just finsh loading the game
#818 [02:52] <Cial> mib_ln722a, loading chunks
#819 [02:52] <mib_ln722a> single player
#820 [02:52] <Cial> saving
#821 [02:52] <mib_ln722a> it's after all that
#822 [02:52] <xales> mib_ln722a: what are the specs of your computer
#823 [02:52] <Cial> are you on a laptop
#824 [02:52] <xales> RAM, graphics card, CPU
#825 [02:52] <mib_ln722a> nope pc
#826 [02:52] <jdodson99> Can I ask for help with the WoM client here if no one is alive on #wom? =3
#827 [02:52] <mib_ln722a> 2 gb 512 Nvida 88gt Intel duo
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#829 [02:52] <mib_ln722a> 2.8
#830 [02:53] <xales> jdodson99: nobody will be able to help you, I don't use it and I don't think Cial does
#831 [02:53] <Cial> jdodson99, well im not on a mac so i cant help
#832 [02:53] <Cial> i use it
#833 [02:53] <Cial> but not the mac version
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#835 [02:53] <jdodson99> Well if anyone knows what might be wrong: I run the .sh in terminal, and I get a prompt asking for a password, but it doesn't let me type anything :/
#836 [02:53] <xales> mib_ln722a: what you using windows7?
#837 [02:53] <mib_ln722a> yes i am but i never had this problem before
#838 [02:53] <xales> jdodson99: thats normal. you are typing, but instead of *s it shows nothing
#839 [02:53] <Cial> did you click the terminal?
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#841 [02:54] <jdodson99> I did.
#842 [02:54] <xales> mib_ln722a: did it work normally at any point?
#843 [02:54] <Cial> mib_ln722a, try turning off all the fancy effects that win7 uses
#844 [02:54] <Cial> that helped me
#845 [02:54] <mib_ln722a> yeah when i first got it
#846 [02:54] <xales> jdodson99: thats how password utilities on Unix work. type your password, nothing shows up
#847 [02:54] <jdodson99> Oooh
#848 [02:54] <xales> you can still use backspace and type and everything
#849 [02:54] <xales> just nothing will appear
#850 [02:54] <Cial> thats the thing i hate about using ubuntu
#851 [02:55] <jdodson99> Huh
#852 [02:55] <jdodson99> Wait
#853 [02:55] <jdodson99> Am I supposed to type my WOM password or my minecraft password or my computer password?
#854 [02:55] <mib_ln722a> grr i move around for like 5 secs and it slowwwwss down
#855 [02:55] <Cial> minecraft password
#856 [02:55] <Cial> mib_ln722a, you hit F?
#857 [02:56] <mib_ln722a> i only hit awsd
#858 [02:56] <clone1018> computer password
#859 [02:56] <clone1018> hurrr
#860 [02:56] <clone1018> durrrr
#861 [02:56] <Cial> mib_ln722a, hit F a time or two and see if things get better
#862 [02:57] <mib_ln722a> whats f doing?
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#864 [02:57] <xales> changing render distance
#865 [02:58] <Cial> adding fog so it doesnt have to render as much of the area
#866 [02:58] <jdodson99> OH
#867 [02:58] <xales> jdodson99: you want to put your computer (admin/login) password in that
#868 [02:58] <jdodson99> I figured out what I was doing
#869 [02:58] <mib_ln722a> ive tryed that down to small no help
#870 [02:58] <jdodson99> Heh, I deleted a path
#871 [02:58] <jdodson99> Whoopsies.
#872 [02:58] <jdodson99> But it works now.
#873 [02:59] <xales> mib_ln722a: then the issue is that your computer doesn't meet the minimum requirements for Minecraft
#874 [02:59] <jdodson99> How do I find my server in the list of stuffs?
#875 [03:00] <clone1018> URL
#876 [03:00] <mib_ln722a> how the hell don't it match the requirements
#877 [03:00] <xales> mib_ln722a: I think you probably don't have enough ram
#878 [03:00] <mib_ln722a> >.>
#879 [03:00] <jdodson99> I don't use a URL, I use my IP to connect :/
#880 [03:00] <clone1018> Because your computer is shit
#881 [03:00] <xales> 2gb is cutting it very, very close
#882 [03:00] <jdodson99> I connect with the minecraft app
#883 [03:00] <clone1018> lol no its not
#884 [03:00] <jdodson99> So I have no experience with URLs
#885 [03:00] <clone1018> wait
#886 [03:01] <xales> clone1018: minecraft uses 1gb, plus windows 7
#887 [03:01] <mib_ln722a> garrys mod is way worse then this
#888 [03:01] <clone1018> are you trying to use Classic with Alpha?
#889 [03:01] <mib_ln722a> and it runs fine
#890 [03:01] <xales> mib_ln722a: garrys mod isn't minecraft
#891 [03:01] <clone1018> @jdodson99
#892 [03:01] <jdodson99> I'm using beta
#893 [03:01] <clone1018> WoM client doesnt work with beta
#894 [03:01] <jdodson99> WTF?
#895 [03:02] <jdodson99> O_O
#896 [03:02] <clone1018> It works with classic
#897 [03:02] <jdodson99> ...
#898 [03:02] <jdodson99> I fail at reading.
#899 [03:02] <clone1018> yup.
#900 [03:02] <clone1018> my underwear is akward
#901 [03:03] <clone1018> nice hostname
#902 [03:03] <Cial> tmi
#903 [03:03] <jdodson99> Is there anything like WOM that works for beta?
#904 [03:03] <clone1018> no
#905 [03:03] <jdodson99> Awh D:
#906 [03:04] <xales> what the fuck
#907 [03:04] <xales> is this
#908 [03:04] <Cial> i know of a few but im not saying due to my code of honor in beta
#909 [03:04] <jdodson99> xD
#910 [03:04] <Cial> in classic i dont care if you fly and shit
#911 [03:04] <Cial> but in beta no
#912 [03:04] <xales> my connection just got pwned by this computer sucking
#913 [03:04] <Cial> hoof it
#914 [03:04] <xales> and I reconnect to find
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#916 [03:04] <xales> that something stupid is in tmux ._.
#917 [03:04] <jdodson99> Cial, I only want to use it for my own server
#918 [03:04] <Cial> XD
#919 [03:04] <xales> like, an extra horizontal line
#920 [03:04] <jdodson99> I'm not a griefer
#921 [03:04] <jdodson99> xP
#922 [03:05] <Cial> jdodson99, sorry i cant bring myself to do it
#923 [03:05] <Cial> they are easy to find if you know where to look
#924 [03:05] <Valium> jdodson99: them toss a few mods on your server and problem solved
#925 [03:05] <jdodson99> ]=
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#927 [03:06] <Cial> check the forums im sure there will be something that can help you there
#928 [03:06] <xales> yay
#929 [03:07] <xales> time to guess which SSH connection is real
#930 [03:07] <xales> and kill one at random
#931 [03:07] <lukegb> ....?
#932 [03:07] <xales> lukegb: my laptop is shit and decided to start dropping packets
#933 [03:07] <lukegb> oho
#934 [03:07] <xales> so I killed ssh client
#935 [03:07] <xales> and server sees it as connected :/
#936 [03:08] <DJAikou> Minecraft goes black after it loads when played in the browser
#937 [03:09] <DJAikou> I can't play classic because of this
#938 [03:09] <xales> DJAikou: classic or beta
#939 [03:09] <xales> also, fixed my stupid tmux session :)
#940 [03:10] <DJAikou> classic is what I'm talking about
#941 [03:10] <xales> how much RAM do you have, and what graphics card?
#942 [03:10] <DJAikou> 4 GB
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#944 [03:11] <xales> graphics card?
#945 [03:11] <DJAikou> just a sec, I'll check the video card. (Beta app works though)
#946 [03:11] <xales> when you say that beta works, do you mean playing beta or the login screen?
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#948 [03:14] <DJAikou> I think the GFX card is NVIDIA GeForce 320M
#949 [03:14] <DJAikou> It's a MacBook
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#951 [03:17] <DJAikou> It said I was disconnected from IRC, did I miss anything?
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#953 [03:19] <DJAikou> IRC keeps booting me
#954 [03:19] <DJAikou> NVIDIA GeForce 320M
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#956 [03:21] <xales> oh
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#958 [03:21] <xales> thats probably the issue
#959 [03:22] <xales> minecraft doesn't work on my macbook =/
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#961 [03:22] <DJAikou> the web version you mean?
#962 [03:22] <DJAikou> It's just Java
#963 [03:23] <DJAikou> why wouldn't it?
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#965 [03:23] <xales> no, Classic
#966 [03:23] <xales> I can play Beta but not Classic
#967 [03:23] <xales> :/
#968 [03:24] <DJAikou> testing Beta (in web now)
#969 [03:24] <DJAikou> just a white screen
#970 [03:24] <DJAikou> Classic is black, beta is white
#971 [03:25] <xales> eh
#972 [03:25] <xales> you bought beta, right?
#973 [03:25] <DJAikou> yeah
#974 [03:26] <DJAikou> I clicked and I here sheep!
#975 [03:26] <xales> so it works offline but not in the browser?
#976 [03:26] <DJAikou> just white
#977 [03:26] <xales> err, works in the download or whatever
#978 [03:26] <DJAikou> the .APP works fine
#979 [03:26] <DJAikou> yeah
#980 [03:27] <xales> are you running any sort of firewall?
#981 [03:27] <xales> (other than the built-in one)
#982 [03:27] <xales> or antivirus
#983 [03:27] <DJAikou> router?
#984 [03:27] <DJAikou> I here sheep though
#985 [03:27] <DJAikou> in beta web
#986 [03:28] <xales> that sounds like a display issue then
#987 [03:28] <xales> which leads me back to thinking its a problem with Java, I have no idea
#988 [03:28] <DJAikou> I thought maybe a Java setting
#989 [03:28] <xales> try posting on the forum?
#990 [03:28] <xales> there wouldn't be any setting related to that
#991 [03:28] <xales> try posting on minecraftforum.net
#992 [03:29] <DJAikou> ok
#993 [03:29] <xales> its 3:30am, so I have to leave :\
#994 [03:29] <xales> good luck
#995 [03:29] <DJAikou> k bye
#996 [03:29] <DJAikou> thx
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#1001 [03:39] <Solvius> grrrr cant log in to my server :(
#1002 [03:39] <Solvius> connection refused it says...
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#1029 [04:29] <Umichi> I need help figuring out how to play with other people, says i need a server IP adress, now where i might be able to find people posting IP's?
#1030 [04:29] <Umichi> know*
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#1033 [04:32] <DJAikou> oh, you looking for servers?
#1034 [04:32] <DJAikou> discovr.us is a good one
#1035 [04:33] <DJAikou> oh he left the chat
#1036 [04:33] <DJAikou> sorry
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#1042 [04:56] <aetherian> room service
#1043 [05:04] <Solvius> hmmm is there a difference between a iron protection, or gold ?
#1044 [05:05] <Solvius> besides the color :)
#1045 [05:08] <BarryCarlyon> In what context Solvius ?
#1046 [05:08] <Solvius> body armor
#1047 [05:09] <BarryCarlyon> Gold is stronger/lasts longer/has greater durability
#1048 [05:09] <Solvius> ok, thnx. Is that also with a pick ?
#1049 [05:09] <BarryCarlyon> Yah.
#1050 [05:09] <Solvius> ok, thnx
#1051 [05:10] <BarryCarlyon> With picks tho, you need a certain type of pick to mine certain ores properly.
#1052 [05:10] <BarryCarlyon> Check the minecraft wiki.
#1053 [05:10] <aetherian> um
#1054 [05:10] <aetherian> I think that gold is less strong
#1055 [05:10] <aetherian> but dunno
#1056 [05:10] <aetherian> check it first
#1057 [05:10] <Solvius> Idid, couldnt realy fint it
#1058 [05:11] <aetherian> I'll look it up >.>
#1059 [05:11] <aetherian> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Gold_(Ingot)
#1060 [05:11] <aetherian> Gold is best used decoratively such as in the form of a block or as a showy armor set since gold armor and weapons have the same durability as wooden ones.
#1061 [05:12] <aetherian> :)
#1062 [05:12] <Solvius> ahaa, not better then iron :)
#1063 [05:12] <aetherian> toldja
#1064 [05:12] <aetherian> but the helmets are kingly
#1065 [05:12] <aetherian> gold helmet+saddle+pig+minecart=royal travel
#1066 [05:13] <Solvius> to avoid a reality discussion about the game, I thought gold is softer then iron, so thats why I asked because its more difficult to find
#1067 [05:14] <aetherian> gold, ie watch. effectively.
#1068 [05:14] <Solvius> aetherian royal travelling on a pig ???
#1069 [05:15] <aetherian> YES >:O
#1070 [05:15] <aetherian> pigs are knightly
#1071 [05:15] <Solvius> pigs smell, so I would be a smelly royal :)
#1072 [05:16] <aetherian> you're smelly even when you're not royal
#1073 [05:16] <aetherian> :P
#1074 [05:24] <Solvius> lol
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#1076 [05:26] <BarryCarlyon> I facepalm.
#1077 [05:37] <aetherian> frequently?
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#1079 [05:37] <tiba666> any ther know when the update come's
#1080 [05:38] <Solvius> today, wanst it ?
#1081 [05:39] <tiba666> yea but when ^^
#1082 [05:42] <aetherian> well uh
#1083 [05:42] <aetherian> it's 3:00 am (nearly) here so I am off to bed
#1084 [05:42] <aetherian> night
#1085 [05:42] <Solvius> goodnight
#1086 [05:43] <tiba666> goonigh aetherian
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#1089 [05:53] <Solvius> who has cookies ?
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#1092 [06:06] <Solvius> are there any knwon problems with WorldGuard ?
#1093 [06:13] <Solvius> WE DO NOT PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THIRD PARTY MODS OR SOFTWARE! Ok, sorry :)
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#1102 [06:46] <Valium> Solvius: ask in #craftbook
#1103 [06:49] <Solvius> ok, thnx
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#1105 [06:54] <Con> !seen pie
#1106 [06:54] <GreyBot> I last saw pie (ConMan8@CPE-124-181-87-184.lns9.win.bigpond.net.au) 9hrs 48mins 49secs ago, changing their nickname to ConMan8.
#1107 [06:55] <Kealper> i like AuBot's seen thing more....lol
#1108 [06:55] <Kealper> it doesn't spam the channel :/
#1109 [06:55] <Con> GreyBot is two seconds forward of AuBot
#1110 [06:56] <Kealper> orly?
#1111 [06:56] <Kealper> !seen GreyBot
#1112 [06:56] * GreyBot waves to Kealper.
#1112 [06:56] <Kealper> was instant for me
#1113 [06:57] <Con> -AuBot- Pie was last seen 9 hours, 48 minutes, 47 seconds ago changing their nick to ConMan8
#1114 [06:57] <Con> GreyBot said 49
#1115 [06:57] <Kealper> oh....lol
#1116 [06:58] <Kealper> !seen Kealper
#1117 [06:58] <GreyBot> Look in a mirror, Kealper.
#1118 [06:58] <Kealper> damnit greybot
#1119 [06:58] <Valium> you guys are doing it wrong
#1120 [06:59] <Kealper> greybot is doing it wrong -.-
#1121 [06:59] <Kealper> !seen Con
#1122 [06:59] <GreyBot> I last saw Con (ConMan8@CPE-124-181-87-184.lns9.win.bigpond.net.au) 1min 56secs ago, talking in #MineCraftHelp. They were saying: GreyBot said 49
#1123 [06:59] <Con> !seen Con
#1124 [06:59] <GreyBot> Look in a mirror, Con.
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#1126 [06:59] <Con> stuff your mirror GreyVulpine
#1127 [07:00] <Kealper> weird...i wonder if that is just showing how slow it actually is for the server sending the message to everyone
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#1129 [07:03] <KillSpammar> BEep
#1130 [07:03] <Kealper> meep
#1131 [07:03] <KillSpammar> Wtf?
#1132 [07:03] <KillSpammar> Cant send to #minecraft
#1133 [07:03] <KillSpammar> ?
#1134 [07:03] <Kealper> register with nickserv
#1135 [07:04] <KillSpammar> Strangly
#1136 [07:04] <KillSpammar> IT put my name as killspammar
#1137 [07:04] <KillSpammar> Hax
#1138 [07:04] <KillSpammar> :S
#1139 [07:05] <KillSpammar> Lol i msut of left it on the other computer
#1140 [07:05] <KillSpammar> How do i dc him from here?
#1141 [07:05] <KillSpammar> That ghost command thing
#1142 [07:05] <Kealper> /msg nickserv ghost KillSpammer your-password
#1143 [07:06] <Kealper> also
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#1146 [07:06] <KillSpammar> :S
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#1148 [07:06] <Kealper> check out the nickserv options, add KillSpammar to the same nick group as KillSpammer
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#1151 [07:08] <KillSpammer> Back
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#1153 [07:16] <KillSpammer> I need help
#1154 [07:16] <Kealper> yessir?
#1155 [07:17] <KillSpammer> The userlsit on the side has vanished
#1156 [07:17] <KillSpammer> How do i get it back :)
#1157 [07:17] <Kealper> o.o
#1158 [07:17] <Kealper> client?
#1159 [07:17] <KillSpammer> Yeah
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#1161 [07:17] <KillSpammer> Client is xchat
#1162 [07:17] <KillSpammer> :)
#1163 [07:18] <Kealper> ok then
#1164 [07:18] <Kealper> go to the right of the chat's scroll bar
#1165 [07:18] <Kealper> it should change your cursor to a thing to move stuff left or right
#1166 [07:18] <Kealper> drag that left
#1167 [07:18] <KillSpammer> Ok got it :)
#1168 [07:19] <KillSpammer> Thanks
#1169 [07:19] * Kealper goes back to reading Notch's twitter
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#1170 [07:20] * KillSpammer goes to read Notch�s twitter and other peoples twitters
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#1174 [07:28] * KillSpammer Now goes to play WoW
#1174 [07:28] <Kealper> WoW......yuk
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#1176 [07:35] <KillSpammer> Meh...
#1177 [07:36] <KillSpammer> Im playing a private server so its pretty much just Pvp
#1178 [07:36] <Valium> ...heM
#1179 [07:36] <Valium> still on wrath?
#1180 [07:36] * Kealper used to run his own WoW private server
#1180 [07:36] * mbentley has never played WoW
#1180 [07:36] * Valium finally shut his down today after 2 years
#1180 [07:36] <KillSpammer> Valium i play retail when my brother isnt on it
#1181 [07:37] <KillSpammer> But private servers are still mostly on wrath
#1182 [07:37] <Valium> I hate the game, but the coding was fun
#1183 [07:37] <KillSpammer> Cata remade like
#1184 [07:38] <KillSpammer> All the of the quests
#1185 [07:38] <KillSpammer> Questing is now fun...
#1186 [07:38] <KillSpammer> Instead of
#1187 [07:38] <KillSpammer> I need to make ap otion
#1188 [07:38] <KillSpammer> Go get my 20 horns from that ram
#1189 [07:38] <Valium> yeah, blizz finally got smart and encrypted the protocol
#1190 [07:38] <KillSpammer> Heres 32 silver
#1191 [07:38] <KillSpammer> Its more like
#1192 [07:38] <Kealper> lies, there were only two games that i liked the quests in...
#1193 [07:38] <KillSpammer> I need to make potion to destroy the demon that isinvading the lands, please help me by killing this this and that boss
#1194 [07:39] <KillSpammer> Kealper new quests...
#1195 [07:39] <KillSpammer> Then you get on this huge quest line and crap and end up throwing a potion at this massive demon
#1196 [07:39] <Valium> I like minecraft, it has one quest...don' die.
#1197 [07:39] <KillSpammer> Lol...
#1198 [07:39] <KillSpammer> Minecraft has gotten boring :(
#1199 [07:40] <Kealper> Shaiya, and Heros of Three Kingdoms were the only ones that were actually fun to quest in
#1200 [07:40] <Valium> are you playing with others?
#1201 [07:40] <Kealper> Heroes*
#1202 [07:40] <KillSpammer> I was...
#1203 [07:40] <KillSpammer> It just gets too boring
#1204 [07:40] <Valium> not for me.
#1205 [07:40] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1206 [07:40] <KillSpammer> I forgot about my Rts game again
#1207 [07:40] <KillSpammer> Thats like 4 days of not playing
#1208 [07:40] <KillSpammer> Lets see if im dead yet
#1209 [07:41] <Valium> I can play minecrat high just as well when I'm not taking my pain meds.
#1210 [07:41] <Valium> thats a good thing
#1211 [07:41] <KillSpammer> The reason people like minecraft is that its simple but fun
#1212 [07:41] <Valium> exactly
#1213 [07:41] <Valium> and I like trains
#1214 [07:41] <KillSpammer> Instead of having to do multiple things and manage gear and stuff
#1215 [07:41] <KillSpammer> One basic goal
#1216 [07:41] <KillSpammer> Surivve
#1217 [07:41] <KillSpammer> Survive*
#1218 [07:41] <Valium> and build cool shit
#1219 [07:42] <KillSpammer> Lul wut
#1220 [07:42] <KillSpammer> I ahven;t died yet
#1221 [07:42] <Valium> like a black mesa testing facility
#1222 [07:42] <KillSpammer> Max resources :(
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#1227 [07:51] <Kealper> lguana....lol
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#1229 [07:53] <Con> Iguana, peer is such a meanie isn’t he
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#1236 [08:33] <Xjet> Hi, did anyone have a link to a list of server plugin ?
#1237 [08:34] <mbentley> might look on the forums...
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#1239 [08:35] <mbentley> or http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mod
#1240 [08:35] <mbentley> that has a list...
#1241 [08:35] <Xjet> thx
#1242 [08:36] <mbentley> no clue if it is good at all :)
#1243 [08:36] <Slayerduck> Hey i just bought minecraft and i set up my own server but when i try to connect to it the client crashes and in the server console i see myself being connected, then kicked with reason "You need to log in!" I'm logged in, what should i do ?
#1244 [08:37] <mbentley> are you sure you set up a beta server?
#1245 [08:37] <mbentley> or did you set up a classic server?
#1246 [08:37] <Slayerduck> Good point, i'll go verify it
#1247 [08:38] <mbentley> if it is classic, i believe there is an externalurl.txt file in the server files
#1248 [08:39] <Slayerduck> Yeah its a classic, sorry for my stupid question. I'll download the other one thanks.
#1249 [08:39] <mbentley> no problem. common mistake :)
#1250 [08:41] <Slayerduck> btw, the server software is very lightweight or no? What do i need to host a 10 man game ?
#1251 [08:41] <KillSpammer> With no lag and all you might need around 2gigs of ram?
#1252 [08:41] <KillSpammer> I think
#1253 [08:41] <KillSpammer> Notch changes his code around so much that i have no idea how much you need anymore
#1254 [08:42] <mbentley> i wouldn't say it is lightweight
#1255 [08:42] <KillSpammer> Theres alot of problems with monster spawning
#1256 [08:42] <mbentley> although it doesn't seem to bog down a server too badly, the minecraft server will run like crap if you have a weak server
#1257 [08:42] <Slayerduck> it looked so lightweight, judging on the size of the server software. Never underestimate java i guess :D
#1258 [08:43] <KillSpammer> Notch is hinting that he fixed it
#1259 [08:43] <KillSpammer> Slayerduck
#1260 [08:43] <KillSpammer> Most servers use the Hey0 Mod
#1261 [08:43] <KillSpammer> Theres many plugins and stuff...
#1262 [08:43] <Slayerduck> What does that do?
#1263 [08:43] <KillSpammer> Its a server software mod
#1264 [08:43] <KillSpammer> It has more capabilitys
#1265 [08:43] <KillSpammer> And if you know java you can proberly make your own plugins
#1266 [08:43] <Xjet> did mcmyadmin better than hey0 server ?
#1267 [08:44] <KillSpammer> I prefer Hey0 over mcmyadmin
#1268 [08:44] <Slayerduck> Cool, i'll look it up. I can't program any java altough
#1269 [08:44] <KillSpammer> Here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=23340
#1270 [08:44] <Slayerduck> so the hey0 is a plugin for the server software or a whole different server?
#1271 [08:45] <KillSpammer> Whole different
#1272 [08:45] <Valium> technically, its a wrapper
#1273 [08:45] <Slayerduck> i see
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#1275 [08:46] <Slayerduck> and my server pops up in the public server list to? even tough its running 3th party server software?
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#1277 [08:47] <Xjet> did mcmyadmin better than hey0 server ?
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#1279 [08:47] <Valium> Xjet: what are you asking?
#1280 [08:48] <KillSpammer> Ima go attempt to code some plugins for Bukkit
#1281 [08:48] <KillSpammer> For when its released
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#1283 [08:49] <mr_evil> why do i need to play the game with a bought account be4 i play offline mode?
#1284 [08:49] <mbentley> you just need to login...
#1285 [08:49] <mr_evil> yeah well, then i need a bought account to login hu?
#1286 [08:50] <Valium> umm, yeah
#1287 [08:50] <mr_evil> and then we are back to my question
#1288 [08:50] <mr_evil> why?
#1289 [08:50] <mbentley> because it isn't free
#1290 [08:50] <Con> because you need to purchase a license to be allowed to use the software
#1291 [08:50] <Valium> so that folks arent running pirate copies
#1292 [08:50] <mr_evil> okey
#1293 [08:50] <mr_evil> soo
#1294 [08:50] <mr_evil> With one bought "key" or what you call it
#1295 [08:51] <mr_evil> you can make like 100 ppl play it offline?
#1296 [08:51] <Con> no
#1297 [08:51] <mr_evil> hrm?
#1298 [08:51] <mbentley> that would be piracy
#1299 [08:51] <mr_evil> so i need to buy the game myself?
#1300 [08:51] <mbentley> ...
#1301 [08:51] <mr_evil> ...
#1302 [08:51] <Con> That’s kind of self-explanatory
#1303 [08:51] <mbentley> oh, that was a real question
#1304 [08:51] <mbentley> yes
#1305 [08:52] <mr_evil> hrm
#1306 [08:52] <mr_evil> that's kinda gay isn't it?
#1307 [08:52] <mbentley> you can play classic for free online...
#1308 [08:52] <mbentley> not really
#1309 [08:52] <mbentley> paying for a game? how dare they...
#1310 [08:52] <mr_evil> haha
#1311 [08:52] <mr_evil> well
#1312 [08:52] <mr_evil> i don't mean like that
#1313 [08:53] <mr_evil> it don't cost much tho
#1314 [08:53] <Valium> and hey, you could even pay notch in person, you're just that close
#1315 [08:54] <mr_evil> hrm
#1316 [08:54] <Slayerduck> So im running the hey0 software and noticed they also have mysql support, are there advantages for using mysql ?
#1317 [08:54] <Valium> well, Slayerduck, do you know MySQL?
#1318 [08:54] <mbentley> maybe for a larger server
#1319 [08:54] <xales> if you don't know what the advantages are, you don't need it
#1320 [08:55] <Slayerduck> Yeah i know mysql, does it increase performance alot ?
#1321 [08:55] <mbentley> @xales?
#1322 [08:55] * mbentley hides
#1322 [08:55] <xales> no, it would be a small decrease most likely
#1323 [08:55] <xales> o/ mbentley
#1324 [08:55] <Kealper> well this place perked up while i was in the bathroom doing that whole morning thing...
#1325 [08:56] <KillSpammer> Wtf...
#1326 [08:56] <Slayerduck> Why would it decrease when using a decent configured mysql =.=
#1327 [08:56] <KillSpammer> My eclipse vanished?
#1328 [08:56] <Xjet> did anyone have a mod to /time day and more ?
#1329 [08:57] <xales> Slayerduck: flatfiles are faster in some cases
#1330 [08:57] <mbentley> when using mysql, you could offload it to another box i would imagine (never used the mod)
#1331 [08:57] <Slayerduck> mysql should be faster if configurated in a innodb table and feeding it a good amount of ram
#1332 [08:58] <Slayerduck> well whatever i'll just leave it as it for now
#1333 [09:02] <Xjet> did mcmyadmin better than hey0 server ?
#1334 [09:02] <Valium> ask in french
#1335 [09:02] <Valium> maybe I'll unerstand it better
#1336 [09:02] <Xjet> Vraiment ?
#1337 [09:02] <mbentley> such a diverse channel...
#1338 [09:03] <Xjet> sorry, do'nt want to say this, i'm just asking if anyone have a time changing mod
#1339 [09:03] <Valium> oui vraiment
#1340 [09:03] <Valium> and yes,
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#1342 [09:03] <Valium> hey0 and craftbook
#1343 [09:04] <Xjet> je suis sur mcmyadmin...
#1344 [09:04] <Valium> with a couple IC's you can make it daytime all the time
#1345 [09:04] <Slayerduck> where can i find the public server list for the paid version of minecraft?
#1346 [09:04] <Solvius> Hij Xjet :)
#1347 [09:04] <Xjet> hi solvius ;)
#1348 [09:04] <mbentley> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1014
#1349 [09:05] <mbentley> and http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#1350 [09:05] <xales> Slayerduck: there isnt one. try minestatus.net
#1351 [09:07] <Xjet> donc a par avec hey0, pas de mod pour la lumière ?
#1352 [09:08] <Slayerduck> Ok, thanks xales
#1353 [09:09] <Valium> ce que l'enfer?
#1354 [09:09] <Xjet> pas de mod pour fixé le time a day ou night ?
#1355 [09:11] <Valium> oui, hey0 et craftbook
#1356 [09:14] <Xjet> j'avais vu ici ! http://phonicuk.com/Forums/ViewThread.aspx?tid=180 timerift, mais c'est un server...
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#1358 [09:17] <Valium> use that then
#1359 [09:22] <GLaDOS> take THAT bug spammers
#1360 [09:22] <GLaDOS> !paid me
#1361 [09:23] <GLaDOS> no, i wanted to see if user me had paid
#1362 [09:23] <GLaDOS> >:(
#1363 [09:28] <Kealper> lol.....
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#1368 [09:50] <Slam> i need some minecraft help
#1369 [09:50] <mbentley> what seems to be your boggle Slam?
#1370 [09:50] <Slam> well, #minecraft help
#1371 [09:50] <Slam> im banned from #minecraft and i dont want this
#1372 [09:50] <mbentley> oh
#1373 [09:51] <mbentley> first question: what did you do to get banned?
#1374 [09:51] <mbentley> and we can't help
#1375 [09:51] <Slam> darn
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#1377 [09:51] <Slam> well im pro at the game itself so
#1378 [09:52] <Slam> i hope mod support comes with this update today
#1379 [09:52] <mbentley> i would pm the op who banned you
#1380 [09:52] <Slam> hes not on
#1381 [09:52] <Slam> i got banned ages ago
#1382 [09:52] <mbentley> Jan-05 01:33 -!- Slam was kicked from #minecraft by Miclee [Stop the allcaps/spam.]
#1383 [09:53] <Slam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/553609/
#1384 [09:53] <mbentley> yeah, i was just looking at my logs...
#1385 [09:53] <Slam> he mad it seems of my sweet autorejoin
#1386 [09:54] <mbentley> autorejoin is frowned upon by many people...
#1387 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> autorejoins are against the rules in #minecraft.
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#1389 [09:55] <Slam> srsly that is a ridiculous rule dont you think
#1390 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> Don't care, is a rule.
#1391 [09:55] <Slam> HEY are you an OP on #minecraft GreyVulpine
#1392 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> No, I'm not.
#1393 [09:56] <Kealper> hey Slam
#1394 [09:56] <Slam> darn
#1395 [09:57] * Kealper would like one good reason not to kick Slam
#1395 [09:57] <Valium> cool name?
#1396 [09:57] <Kealper> hmmm.....
#1397 [09:58] <Slam> im a really good
#1398 [09:58] <Slam> sports
#1399 [09:58] <Slam> guy
#1400 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> I asked on your behalf, Slam, and the ops are not willing to unban you.
#1401 [09:58] <Slam> cheers GreyVulpine
#1402 [09:59] <Slam> did they say why
#1403 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> They did not give a reason, and I did not push them for one. Their word, is final as an op in #minecraft.
#1404 [10:03] <Slam> its like im really a part of communism
#1405 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> But you forget, communism is an equality-based economic system, based on classless and stateless structure
#1406 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> As you can see, IRC isn't
#1407 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> Well then. Bwah to you too.
#1408 [10:05] <GLaDOS> /kickban Slam
#1409 [10:05] <GLaDOS> am i too late?
#1410 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1411 [10:06] <GLaDOS> nuu
#1412 [10:06] <jedahan> heh
#1413 [10:06] <mbentley> whoa, that was close
#1414 [10:06] <jedahan> yep, dangerously close to a talk about politics!
#1415 [10:08] <GLaDOS> COMMUNISM!
#1416 [10:08] <GLaDOS> HAAAAX!
#1417 [10:08] <GLaDOS> anyway
#1418 [10:08] * GreyVulpine blinks... and yawns.
#1418 [10:09] <jedahan> hmm I wonder if there will be a minecraft meetup at PAX east....
#1419 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> Oh great, slam's back, and is PMing me
#1420 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> Thanks GLaDOS.
#1421 [10:14] <GLaDOS> direct him to me
#1422 [10:14] * GreyVulpine shakes and /ignores
#1422 [10:16] <spunky> 98.243.1.61:25565 test please?
#1423 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> !check 98.243.1.61
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#1425 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> And I'm in
#1426 [10:18] <spunky> Thanks
#1427 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. I already had your ip last time.
#1428 [10:18] <spunky> yeah i changed some things just wantetd to make sure it was still gonna work
#1429 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#1430 [10:18] <spunky> Thanks again
#1431 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> mhmm
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#1433 [10:19] <xales> Grey, feel free to /ignore him and leave him banned here :)
#1434 [10:19] <xales> if you want logs of why he was initially banned, its for a good reason
#1435 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> He provided a snippet
#1436 [10:19] <xales> let me provide the whole thing
#1437 [10:20] <xales> http://pastebin.com/cnLvmAXd
#1438 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> Oh, grats on @
#1439 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> That's the same snippet..
#1440 [10:21] <xales> hah, thanks
#1441 [10:21] <xales> oh, really? I wouldn't expect him to show how much of a dumbass he is
#1442 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/553609/
#1443 [10:21] <xales> I just looked :)
#1444 [10:21] <Kaito> it's probably fruitless to ask this, but after i've installed a minecraft mod (by adding the .class files to the .jar), is there a simple way to /uninstall/ it?
#1445 [10:21] <Kaito> !
#1446 [10:21] <Kaito> it was a question
#1447 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> delete the /bin foler
#1448 [10:21] <GLaDOS> unless you want to remove only one
#1449 [10:21] <Kaito> please dont ban me
#1450 [10:21] <xales> Kaito: probably easiest to just delete the .jar and let minecraft.exe redownload it
#1451 [10:21] <Kaito> :P
#1452 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> have it redownload
#1453 [10:21] <Kaito> oh
#1454 [10:21] * Kaito facepalms
#1454 [10:21] <Kaito> DUH
#1455 [10:22] <Kaito> thank you
#1456 [10:22] <GLaDOS> then go into %appdata%\.minecraft\bin
#1457 [10:22] <GLaDOS> and delete VERSION
#1458 [10:22] <Kaito> will od
#1459 [10:22] <Kaito> do
#1460 [10:22] <Kaito> thank you
#1461 [10:22] <xales> Grey, I'm not actually on the AOP list
#1462 [10:22] <xales> mind adding me? :)
#1463 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#1464 [10:22] <xales> thanks
#1465 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Done.
#1466 [10:23] <xales> Thanks.
#1467 [10:24] <mbentley> i really need to delete this email in my inbox... subject: pancakes
#1468 [10:24] <mbentley> makes me hungry....
#1469 [10:24] <GLaDOS> GreyVulpine: does me opping someone make them an aop?
#1470 [10:24] <xales> or reply to it with pictures of pancakes, make sender hungry too :)
#1471 [10:24] <xales> GLaDOS: nope
#1472 [10:24] <GLaDOS> if so, then yay
#1473 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> GLaDOS - TW was talking about opping xales anyways.
#1474 [10:24] <GLaDOS> xales: i dont mean automatically
#1475 [10:24] <xales> I know, GLaDOS
#1476 [10:24] <GLaDOS> yeh
#1477 [10:24] <mbentley> xales: i sent it to myself lol
#1478 [10:25] <xales> ah. reply anyway?
#1479 [10:25] <GLaDOS> /opall #MineCraftHelp
#1480 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> I'll save him the trouble.
#1481 [10:25] <GLaDOS> ILL DO IT :D
#1482 [10:25] <xales> GLaDOS: if that's really a command...fail
#1483 [10:25] <GLaDOS> its actually /mop but i changed the name for it to say its meaning
#1484 [10:25] <mbentley> friend suggested a recipe for pumpkin pancakes... sounded really good at the time
#1485 [10:25] <GLaDOS> theres also /mdeop
#1486 [10:25] <xales> I like my client, it won't do mass operations unless you add --yes or something to it
#1487 [10:26] <xales> so /kick * will just echo "You don't want to do that"
#1488 [10:26] <GLaDOS> irc wheeee
#1489 [10:26] <xales> but /kick --yes *...hehe
#1490 [10:26] <GLaDOS> irc over ssh*
#1491 [10:26] <xales> best way to do it :)
#1492 [10:26] <GLaDOS> xales: tl;dr i have /akick [msg]
#1493 [10:26] <GLaDOS> want me to show you?
#1494 [10:27] <xales> do you want to show me?
#1495 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> What's an akick?
#1496 [10:27] <xales> GreyVulpine: all kick. same as clear users
#1497 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Aah, okay.
#1498 [10:27] <GLaDOS> YAY I CAN SHOW YOU
#1499 [10:27] * GLaDOS readies it
#1499 [10:27] <mbentley> /kn = fun
#1500 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Just similar to an ircd akill command, 'tis why I asked.
#1501 [10:28] <xales> ChanServ has an akick, which is like akill but just in a channel, not network-wide
#1502 [10:28] <xales> the client's idea of akick is all-kick not automatic kick
#1503 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, not as fun.
#1504 [10:28] <xales> definately
#1505 [10:29] <Valium> I am sooo making a creeper helmet for halloween
#1506 [10:30] <Valium> wrong channel
#1507 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1508 [10:30] <xales> GreyVulpine: that guy still messaging you?
#1509 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1510 [10:31] <xales> aww, I wanted you to tell him that I banned him. I'm bored
#1511 [10:31] <xales> Playing with trolls is definately better than school
#1512 [10:31] <mbentley> wow, just noticed you could get 8gb (2x4gb) of ddr3 for $65...
#1513 [10:31] <xales> wow, really?
#1514 [10:31] <xales> name-brand vendor?
#1515 [10:31] <mbentley> http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/45065/newegg-8gb-2x4gb-pny-optima-ddr3-1333-desktop-memory
#1516 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> meh, pny.
#1517 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> I'll pass.
#1518 [10:32] <mbentley> but still
#1519 [10:32] <mbentley> that's insane
#1520 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> They did say that recent supply has outweighed demand
#1521 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> leading to falls in RAM prices
#1522 [10:33] <mbentley> i spend $387 on 16gb of ddr2 for my server :/
#1523 [10:33] <xales> Unfortunate for me, I upgraded my RAM before upgrading the CPU or graphics card on my desktop :/
#1524 [10:33] <mbentley> *spent
#1525 [10:33] <xales> I would spend that much for 16GB, my VPS only has one D:
#1526 [10:34] <mbentley> my vps has 468mb allocated to it heh
#1527 [10:34] <mbentley> can't complain. it's free
#1528 [10:34] * xales wants his VPS to be free too
#1528 [10:35] <mbentley> <3 my job
#1529 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> "Obama Wants Internet ID for All Americans" - http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Obama-Cybersecurity-Commerce-department-gary-locke-howard-schmidt,news-9667.html
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#1531 [10:41] <Kaito> uh
#1532 [10:41] <Kaito> the fuck?
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#1536 [10:44] <xales> well, even if they do that
#1537 [10:44] <xales> I know one thing that will never adopt it
#1538 [10:44] <xales> IRC :O
#1539 [10:45] <Kaito> yeah really
#1540 [10:45] <Kaito> so much for anon
#1541 [10:45] <Kaito> :P
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#1545 [10:53] <Valium> fuck that, I'll go back to sneakernet
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#1550 [11:06] <Mikau> I'd like to report a bug.
#1551 [11:06] <Mikau> There seems to be this large beetle on the floor, and it's giving me the stink-eye. I would like something done about it immediately.
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#1553 [11:09] <Ash^> Any idea why signposts on my server replace text written on them with "!?"
#1554 [11:09] <xales> Ash^: are you using any mods?
#1555 [11:10] <Ash^> no
#1556 [11:11] <xales> is what is being written on the sign using only English characters?
#1557 [11:11] <mbentley> does it do it no matter what you write?
#1558 [11:12] <Ash^> doesn't matter what I write, will do it to all text entered
#1559 [11:12] <Blitz_9100> Is the change immediate?
#1560 [11:13] <xales> Ash^: does it do this for anyone who places a sign, or just one person
#1561 [11:13] <Valium> Ash^: Is someone coming after you and changing your signs to mess with you?
#1562 [11:14] <Ash^> The text will appear on the sign while I'm typing it but as soon as I click on "Done" text written on any line gets replaced. It happens to anyone who places a sign on the server and everyone on the server can see the error
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#1564 [11:16] <xales> Ash^: are you sure the server doesn't have any mods or wrappers?
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#1567 [11:17] <Ash^> I am certain of it.
#1568 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> Wait, you were here a while ago. You weren't certain whether you were running minecraft_mod or minecraft_server.jar
#1569 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> Didn't you?
#1570 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> You were still running it through some admin panel that you couldn't tell me the name of?
#1571 [11:18] <Ash^> no, this is the first time I have been here.
#1572 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> Really.. I had somebody else come in here with that same problem then
#1573 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> Are you on a personal computer, or a VPS/rented?
#1574 [11:19] <Ash^> personal
#1575 [11:20] <Valium> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=131698
#1576 [11:21] <Valium> not gonna help any, but it's not isolated
#1577 [11:25] <Ash^> aye, the issue started when I was using the official server software without any mods. Strangely they started working for a short time using the hMod but it didn't take long for the signposts to start failing again. Since then I've removed all server software and done a fresh install of Minecraft, redownloaded the official server software and I'm still getting the same issue
#1578 [11:25] <Valium> sounds as if your world may be stuffed
#1579 [11:26] <xales> did you try creating a new world temporarily?
#1580 [11:26] <Ash^> yes, several times :/
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#1582 [11:28] <mbentley> running the latest java?
#1583 [11:30] <Ash^> yes
#1584 [11:30] <xales> Windows, right?
#1585 [11:30] <Ash^> yeah
#1586 [11:30] <xales> are you launching it from the .jar or .exe?
#1587 [11:32] <Ash^> .exe i've not seen any .jar files for the server software
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#1590 [11:34] <xales> do you have anything else open (antivirus maybe?)
#1591 [11:34] <Kealper> !check mau5ville.com:25565
#1592 [11:34] <Ash^> just avg free
#1593 [11:36] <xales> and the system running it has enough RAM, right?
#1594 [11:37] <Ash^> 4GB
#1595 [11:38] <xales> is any other application open when you run the server, other than the Minecraft client?
#1596 [11:38] <Coll> I dont see how ram would affect signs in such a way
#1597 [11:38] <xales> Coll: it could be swapping and the pagefile is bring screwed up
#1598 [11:38] <xales> being*
#1599 [11:39] <Coll> :/
#1600 [11:39] <Ash^> yeah, but i've tried having absolutely nothing running but the server then connecting to it from a different pc over LAN and i still get the same issue
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#1603 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Ash^ - Nothing in terms of server, or client mods at all?
#1604 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> No keyboard macros that accidently fired?
#1605 [11:48] <Ash^> nothing, I literally wiped everything in \AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\ as well as everything in the server folder. Then redownloaded the game and server software
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#1609 [11:57] <PuFFiz> I CANT BUY MINECRAFT, PLEASE HELP ME!
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#1611 [11:57] <xales> well, asking like that won't get you help
#1612 [11:57] <xales> what is the problem?
#1613 [11:57] <mbentley> could you please explain your problem and caps = no
#1614 [11:57] <PuFFiz> It says "Verification Denied
#1615 [11:58] <xales> are you trying to use a prepaid/gift card?
#1616 [11:58] <PuFFiz> Nope, im trying to buy minecraft from a credit card.
#1617 [11:58] <xales> then the error is because your bank is rejecting the card
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#1619 [11:59] <PuFFiz> Why?
#1620 [11:59] <Mikau> About that bug, I have to report another.
#1621 [11:59] <xales> which may be because you entered the information wrong
#1622 [11:59] <Mikau> ;)
#1623 [11:59] <xales> also, I'm not your bank. I don't know why
#1624 [11:59] <Mikau> I am your bank, and you owe me $200
#1625 [11:59] <Bort[inet]> Hi, I had a look at the forums and saw this come up very often. Is there any news on the Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset by peer: socket write error issue?
#1626 [11:59] <Bort[inet]> I did some tests.
#1627 [11:59] <PuFFiz> Transaction error
#1628 [11:59] <PuFFiz> An error occured and your purchase was not completed
#1629 [11:59] <PuFFiz> Message from server: verification denied
#1630 [12:00] <xales> Bort[inet]: do you have a firewall?
#1631 [12:00] <xales> PuFFiz: indeed. talk to your bank
#1632 [12:00] <Bort[inet]> If I ping my server I get 40ms delay. But once I login to minecraft (not even to my server, just login in the game to be able to play) this goes up to about 500ms.
#1633 [12:00] <Bort[inet]> Disabled the firewall, no differance.
#1634 [12:01] <xales> Are you running the server on your computer?
#1635 [12:01] <Bort[inet]> No
#1636 [12:01] <xales> Where are you running it?
#1637 [12:02] <Bort[inet]> You want the IP? A friend is running it on some server pc. But there are 5 other people that can play without any issues on the same server.
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#1640 [12:02] <xales> What is the speed of your network connection?
#1641 [12:02] <xales> Dialup?
#1642 [12:03] <xales> DopeGhoti: Notch is on, update live O_o
#1643 [12:03] <Bort[inet]> No 1MB. I can play SC2 for hours without problems.
#1644 [12:03] <mbentley> well my computer hasn't caught fire from the update...
#1645 [12:03] <Bort[inet]> I saw on the forums that many people are having simular problems.
#1646 [12:04] <PuFFiz> yay
#1647 [12:04] <DopeGhoti> xales: see what happens when the power goes out in Arizona?
#1648 [12:04] <PuFFiz> it works now
#1649 [12:04] <xales> I have no idea then, its definately a problem with your computer :/
#1650 [12:04] <PuFFiz> i entered the wrong svs
#1651 [12:04] <PuFFiz> cvs*
#1652 [12:04] <Bort[inet]> Not a chance it's my pc.
#1653 [12:04] <Bort[inet]> Like I said, tried on 3 different ones.
#1654 [12:05] <Bort[inet]> Can it have something to do with the version of my game. I bought after 20des. So I have the BETA key only.
#1655 [12:05] <Bort[inet]> The other guys playing all have alpha keys.
#1656 [12:05] <mbentley> that shouldn't make a difference...
#1657 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> No difference at all
#1658 [12:06] <Bort[inet]> Even if I ping google or something. it's 40ms, but once I login to minecraft (not the server, just the game login on my account) the ping goes up to 400ms.
#1659 [12:06] <xales> then its a problem with your connection
#1660 [12:06] <Bort[inet]> Connection is 100% doing ANYTHING else. Play starcraft for hours.
#1661 [12:06] <Bort[inet]> Wife works from home, connection used all day. No problems.
#1662 [12:07] <xales> Minecraft probably uses more BW than starcraft
#1663 [12:07] <Bort[inet]> Login to minecraft, breaks within seconds.
#1664 [12:07] <xales> go to http://speedtest.net and run a test
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#1666 [12:08] <Bort[inet]> ping from speedtest 64m
#1667 [12:08] <Bort[inet]> ping from speedtest 64ms
#1668 [12:08] <xales> not ping
#1669 [12:08] <xales> the actual speed result
#1670 [12:09] <Bort[inet]> ok, still running
#1671 [12:09] <mbentley> definitely sounds like some sort of networking issue if your ping to everything else on the internet skyrockets when running minecraft
#1672 [12:09] <Bort[inet]> Download 0.7Mb/s
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#1674 [12:10] <xales> It sounds like bad routing
#1675 [12:10] <Bort[inet]> Yeah, I agree it sounds like a networking issue. But it's defintily minecraft related.
#1676 [12:10] <xales> Bort, anything using a lot of bandwidth will definately do it
#1677 [12:10] <xales> download a big while and while its downloading, check ping
#1678 [12:11] <Bort[inet]> Like I said, all other applications work just fine.
#1679 [12:11] <mbentley> something else to download would be an ubuntu iso or something
#1680 [12:12] <Solvius> I just tested it, I have the same
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#1682 [12:12] <Solvius> minecraft exe started to title, the speed drops
#1683 [12:12] <xales> mbentley: geoip him
#1684 [12:12] <Bort[inet]> Solvius, like I said, the forum has loads of posts about this. I know I'm not alone.
#1685 [12:12] <xales> :)
#1686 [12:13] <Solvius> well, i have no problem with it, as long as minecraft works :)
#1687 [12:13] <mbentley> south africa...
#1688 [12:13] <Bort[inet]> Yip
#1689 [12:13] <Bort[inet]> But my server is also in SA
#1690 [12:14] <mbentley> sounds like you might not have quite enough bandwidth
#1691 [12:14] <mbentley> minecraft is known to eat bandwidth
#1692 [12:14] <Solvius> I am in holland and did a speedtest on columbia, first one was 13 Mb/s, with minecraft on, it drops to 7, minecraft off back on 12 or so
#1693 [12:15] <Solvius> ow and it updated minecraft :)
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#1695 [12:16] <xales> Bort[inet]: how close are you to your exchange?
#1696 [12:17] <Bort[inet]> Will a route give you the info?
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#1698 [12:17] <xales> Bort[inet]: nope
#1699 [12:18] <Bort[inet]> What you mean how close
#1700 [12:18] <xales> How physically close are you to your exchange?
#1701 [12:19] <Bort[inet]> Don't actually know. But can't be very far.
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#1703 [12:20] <Bort[inet]> Right, installed a download speed monitor
#1704 [12:21] <Bort[inet]> But I don't think it's a bandwith problem. Since my ping goes up even when I'm just on the minecraft main menu
#1705 [12:22] <xales> The only thing it could be is a bandwidth/routing problem
#1706 [12:22] <xales> Do a test on speedtest.net again, but to a server in North America
#1707 [12:22] <Bort[inet]> Just quickly updating minecraft
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#1710 [12:27] <Bort[inet]> So what why is there traffic of 40KB/s just looking at the minecraft menu screen.
#1711 [12:27] <Bort[inet]> That can't possibly be needed
#1712 [12:29] <KillSpammer> Heh
#1713 [12:29] <KillSpammer> Mineraft update :)
#1714 [12:31] <Solvius> lol, MP doesnt work annymore
#1715 [12:31] <xales> most servers won't be updated
#1716 [12:31] <Bort[inet]> BTW, speedtest to North america server downloads at 0.57Mb/s
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#1718 [12:31] <Bort[inet]> MC not running.
#1719 [12:31] <thereddeh> stupid update :( minecraft is all FU! ERROR! on me :(
#1720 [12:32] <xales> thereddeh:
#1721 [12:32] <xales> !reinstall
#1722 [12:32] <xales> try that
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#1724 [12:32] <xales> Bort[inet]: That seems like the routing is problematic :/
#1725 [12:32] <xales> can you try from a different computer?
#1726 [12:33] <Bort[inet]> I still don't get why Minecraft menu requires 40KB/s constant non-stop download. That's insane
#1727 [12:33] <Solvius> well, me own server is also not available, I will spare you guys the error :|
#1728 [12:33] <xales> if your getting it through a "minecraft server" hosting company, it will take them time to update it
#1729 [12:33] <Bort[inet]> Speedtest with minecraft running. (Main menu only, not in game). Drops to 0.01
#1730 [12:33] <xales> Bort[inet]: it shouldn't need that. close minecraft, does it still use the same amount of bandwidth?
#1731 [12:34] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: new command: !recent_update, autotext: A new client has been released. You will not be able to connect to a server that has not yet updated.
#1732 [12:34] <Bort[inet]> nope
#1733 [12:34] <thereddeh> now it works :)
#1734 [12:34] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i'll make the command !recent, and gimme a sec
#1735 [12:34] <xales> Bort[inet]: are you sure its 40KB/s?
#1736 [12:34] <xales> also, kilobit or kilobyte? :/
#1737 [12:35] <Bort[inet]> Yes, kilobyte. But it's not doing that any more. Maybe the update sorted something out.
#1738 [12:36] <thereddeh> so whats new in 1.2 :)
#1739 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: no rush; just thought it'd be handy :)
#1740 [12:36] <xales> thereddeh: notch.tumblr.com
#1741 [12:36] <Diablothein> CAKE!
#1742 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> thereddeh: music. cake. trees. mobs.
#1743 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> __colour_!
#1744 [12:36] <thereddeh> w00t
#1745 [12:36] <Bort[inet]> I don't see the same problem any more.
#1746 [12:36] <Bort[inet]> Logged into minecraft, ping to server OK.
#1747 [12:37] <Solvius> I have no rush to, but xales you say that the server has to be updated, is there allready an updat for the server then ? can I download it?
#1748 [12:37] <xales> Solvius: yes, the server updates generally are a few minutes before client updates
#1749 [12:37] <xales> if you don't host the server yourself though, you can't apply it
#1750 [12:37] <NinjaKirby> Does the download page automatically update the link for the latest Server Build?
#1751 [12:37] <xales> NinjaKirby: it should
#1752 [12:37] <NinjaKirby> Awesome, it does look like a fandango link
#1753 [12:38] <Solvius> ok thnx, I dont host it myslef, and I spoke with the hoster, they are talking about it, np for me, but I want to try one at home :)
#1754 [12:38] <Kaito> If i wanted to buy a server from servercraft, what would be some things i should know first? (I already looked as much as i could, i just figured i'd ask some professionals first)
#1755 [12:38] * xKoaLax [xKoaLax@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1756 [12:38] <xales> Kaito: ehh, when you buy a server from a host like that, they will do most of everything for you
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#1758 [12:38] <xKoaLax> i've got a ?uckin' problem
#1759 [12:39] <xales> well, what would that be?
#1760 [12:39] <DopeGhoti> a.. what?
#1761 [12:39] <Kaito> is that necessarily a /bad/ thing?
#1762 [12:39] <Kaito> if they do everything for me
#1763 [12:39] <xales> Kaito: in some cases, yes. generally, no
#1764 [12:39] <xales> Kaito: some things are up to you, but not nearly as much
#1765 [12:39] <xales> I don't know the host specifically, so I can't say
#1766 [12:39] <xKoaLax> Yesterday, I bought "Minecraft" but when i want to connect to a Server there is that message:
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#1768 [12:39] <Kaito> alright, thank you
#1769 [12:40] <xKoaLax> Internal exeeption: java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 7
#1770 [12:40] <xKoaLax> [18:25:20] PhiiiL: *exception
#1771 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> xKoaLax: There was just an update released. The server and client must be the same version. Wait for your server admin to update the server and all will be well.
#1772 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> ...oh
#1773 [12:40] <xKoaLax> that' fuckin message sux
#1774 [12:40] <Solvius> ok, downloaded the new server 1.2 and I am logged in on my own server now :)
#1775 [12:40] <xKoaLax> I bought it and now it doesn't work
#1776 [12:41] <thereddeh> cool invisible treestumps.. my texturepack needs updates ;p
#1777 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> I don't know that Minecraft has much UTF-8 support
#1778 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> also, the new Minecraft server doesn't say how many recipes it has anymore :(
#1779 [12:41] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1780 [12:41] <xales> xKoaLax: the problem is with the people hosting the servers, becuase they have not updated them yet
#1781 [12:41] <xales> just play singleplayer
#1782 [12:41] <Kealper> !recent
#1783 [12:41] <Bort[inet]> Well, can't do anything until my server is updated. Will check again later if I still have the same problems. For now I can only wait and hope it was somehow solved witht the update.
#1784 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: cheers
#1785 [12:41] * Kealper goes afk again
#1785 [12:42] <Diablothein> 3 sugar cane, 3 milk, 3 wheat...
#1786 [12:42] <Valium> Dope 138 up from 99
#1787 [12:42] <DopeGhoti> no eggs. the cake _is_ a lie!
#1788 [12:42] <Diablothein> shuddup.
#1789 [12:43] <xKoaLax> Well, before I bought "Minecraft" i played the cracked one. My mate created a Server on Hamachi - we built a nice World :D
#1790 [12:43] <Diablothein> ... nice...
#1791 [12:43] <xKoaLax> I played the server on the orginal minecraft as well
#1792 [12:43] <xKoaLax> BUT Now it doesn't work.
#1793 [12:43] <Diablothein> admit you were pirating a game on an official channel.
#1794 [12:44] <xKoaLax> I bought it now u gambie
#1795 [12:44] <xKoaLax> i can show u the e-mail
#1796 [12:44] <Diablothein> You what?
#1797 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> xKoaLax: Good on you for ultimately buying the game.
#1798 [12:45] <xKoaLax> @DopeGhoti: I hate my self 'coz i bough it
#1799 [12:46] <xKoaLax> @eat.
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#1801 [12:49] <Solvius> white trees :)
#1802 [12:50] <NinjaKirby> Combat on a Server, not as "sharp" as regular survival? I haven't been on mine long, but battling with Zombies & Spiders, judging distance is knarlier
#1803 [12:50] <nipper> Anyone else notice new server takes for ever to Preparing spawn area?
#1804 [12:50] <NinjaKirby> And everything loves jumping around. A lot.
#1805 [12:50] <CorneliousJD|Work> if i'm identified why can't i talk in #minecraft?
#1806 [12:50] <CorneliousJD|Work> i was having this issue yesterday
#1807 [12:51] <xales> its +m now
#1808 [12:51] <xales> nobody can talk
#1809 [12:51] <xales> for a few minutes
#1810 [12:51] <thereddeh> wooo
#1811 [12:51] <CorneliousJD|Work> oh. for some reason ithought it was only identified users can talk
#1812 [12:51] <CorneliousJD|Work> sorry
#1813 [12:51] <DopeGhoti> moment of silence for the passing of the last version?
#1814 [12:51] <CorneliousJD|Work> gottit
#1815 [12:51] <xales> It is, but in addition we also set it so nobody cal talk so they can all cool down
#1816 [12:52] <CorneliousJD|Work> gottcha. thanks.
#1817 [12:52] * DopeGhoti wonders if he can take KillSpammer off of his /ignore list.
#1817 [12:52] <CorneliousJD|Work> :)
#1818 [12:53] <BurnZeZ> If only I could record video on Minecraft. I've already reproduced the complete Mortal Kombat theme. :(
#1819 [12:53] <xales> fraps?
#1820 [12:54] <BurnZeZ> I get like 1fps.
#1821 [12:54] <thereddeh> fraps!
#1822 [12:54] <xales> ah
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#1825 [12:54] <BurnZeZ> Can't wait till I get my new rig.
#1826 [12:54] <Tyrantos> Good evening! Is there anyone here whom got a moment to help out?
#1827 [12:54] <thereddeh> yes there is!
#1828 [12:54] <BurnZeZ> Tyrantos: Sure, watcha need?
#1829 [12:54] <xales> Tyrantos: what is the issue?
#1830 [12:54] <TrueWolves> XD
#1831 [12:55] <Tyrantos> Well, I have started up my own server using Hamachi. However, Now when I try to connect to it i crash, Or just cant enter. Before the server worked just fine and we all played on it and had fun.
#1832 [12:55] <xales> !recent
#1833 [12:55] <Tyrantos> I need to update?
#1834 [12:55] <xales> you have to manually reinstall the server, basiclly
#1835 [12:55] <xales> just do what you did to set it up in the first place
#1836 [12:55] <Tyrantos> Alright.
#1837 [12:56] <Tyrantos> I wont lose my world, right?
#1838 [12:56] <thereddeh> back it up just in case ;p
#1839 [12:56] <Tyrantos> Good idea.
#1840 [12:56] <thereddeh> it is!
#1841 [12:56] <Tyrantos> You got any link?
#1842 [12:57] <BurnZeZ> Wait.
#1843 [12:57] <BurnZeZ> Oh.
#1844 [12:57] <BurnZeZ> Never mind.
#1845 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> !server
#1846 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> Tyrantos: ^
#1847 [12:57] <Tyrantos> Thank you.
#1848 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> anytime
#1849 [12:58] <thereddeh> even at like 4am?
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#1851 [12:58] <Tyrantos> I will try it if it worked
#1852 [12:58] <jonassm> how can i make a cake? someone know?
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#1854 [12:59] <thereddeh> http://allrecipes.com//Recipes/desserts/cakes/Main.aspx
#1855 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> combine butter, sugar, eggs, milk, flour in a vessel eated to 350 degreed F for about half an hour.
#1856 [12:59] <thereddeh> jonassm: ^
#1857 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> ..heated.
#1858 [12:59] <jonassm> How can i get butter
#1859 [12:59] <jonassm> lol
#1860 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> churn milk.
#1861 [12:59] <jonassm> How can i make/get butter?
#1862 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> churn milk.
#1863 [12:59] <Tyrantos> Alright!
#1864 [13:00] <NinjaKirby> lol
#1865 [13:00] <Tyrantos> it worked, thanks.
#1866 [13:00] <thereddeh> or buy at supermarket
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#1868 [13:00] <DopeGhoti> Tyrantos: \o/
#1869 [13:00] <jonassm> and that is?
#1870 [13:00] <DopeGhoti> jonassm: the secretions from a mammal's mammary glands?
#1871 [13:00] <jonassm> uhm
#1872 [13:00] <jonassm> what?
#1873 [13:00] <thereddeh> DopeGhoti: what a shit recipe.. no flavour ;p
#1874 [13:00] <jonassm> lol
#1875 [13:00] <DopeGhoti> you asked what milk was, no?
#1876 [13:01] <jonassm> No serious how can i make butter in minecraft what is churn?
#1877 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> thereddeh: no one asked about _good_ cake.
#1878 [13:01] <thereddeh> :)
#1879 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> thereddeh: any cake make without eggs is a lie anyhow
#1880 [13:01] <thereddeh> http://www.conniescrafts.com/lgchurn2.JPG << thats a churn
#1881 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> "a churn"?
#1882 [13:02] * DopeGhoti thought churn was a verb.
#1882 [13:02] <thereddeh> u need a stick and some planks
#1883 [13:02] <thereddeh> well i dont know ;p
#1884 [13:02] <thereddeh> i cant speak english properly ;p
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#1886 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> that's ok, nor can most.
#1887 [13:02] <thereddeh> im probably right though ;)
#1888 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> top of the morning to you, LG_Legacy.
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#1890 [13:03] <thereddeh> a churn is right ;p
#1891 [13:03] <thereddeh> churn is also a verb
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#1893 [13:03] * DopeGhoti is educated.
#1893 [13:03] <thereddeh> i win \o>
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#1895 [13:04] * DopeGhoti puts churn(n) in today's "Learn something every day" file.
#1895 [13:04] <thereddeh> :) what was yesterdays?
#1896 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> some obscure thing about MSSQL.
#1897 [13:04] <thereddeh> thats in my "never want to learn - ignore" file
#1898 [13:05] <korn788> i need help with my friends server
#1899 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> same here, but I get paid to learn these things, so..
#1900 [13:05] <korn788> he wants me to host on my computer
#1901 [13:05] <korn788> and when i try i get and connection lost on my client and on the server i get "korn788 lost connection: disconnect.endOfStream"
#1902 [13:06] <thereddeh> !recent
#1903 [13:06] <korn788> i use the web client and still same error
#1904 [13:07] <korn788> or do you mean new exe client
#1905 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> "..to a _server_ that has not yet updated."
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#1907 [13:07] <korn788> how do i update just add the new server exe in the folder right?
#1908 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
#1909 [13:07] <ToxinNL> Yup. and overwrite it.
#1910 [13:08] <korn788> ok i did that and still the same message but when i make a new test server it works fine
#1911 [13:08] <korn788> if i send someone his server can they fix it
#1912 [13:08] <thereddeh> then u put your left hand in, you put your left hand out, you put your left hand in and shake it all about
#1913 [13:09] <korn788> lol did that
#1914 [13:09] <korn788> now what
#1915 [13:09] <thereddeh> you do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around
#1916 [13:10] <thereddeh> thats what its all about :)
#1917 [13:10] <korn788> lol
#1918 [13:10] <korn788> but still if i send it can someone fix it or atleast tell me how
#1919 [13:10] <Solvius> downgrade to the older version to play MP, is that smart, or wil minecraft just update again when ya start it after the downgrade ?
#1920 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> Ooo.. new version out?
#1921 [13:11] <xKoaLax> Internal exception: java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 7
#1922 [13:11] <xKoaLax> What's to vs. that?
#1923 [13:11] <thereddeh> reinstall
#1924 [13:11] <Solvius> I had byte 0 and 3 to :)
#1925 [13:11] <korn788> xkoalax is that the client error you got
#1926 [13:12] <xKoaLax> What's to do :/ ?
#1927 [13:12] <Blitz_9100> That is what happens when you connect to a outdated server
#1928 [13:13] <xKoaLax> reinstall, mkaay
#1929 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> Yay! New version!
#1930 [13:13] * GreyVulpine updates server
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#1931 [13:14] <korn788> WOW I FEEL DUMB
#1932 [13:14] <DopeGhoti> seeing some new server console messages
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#1934 [13:15] <korn788> THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP
#1935 [13:15] <DopeGhoti> "handlePlayerCommand 4 1" and "..4 2 "
#1936 [13:15] <DopeGhoti> also, server no longer announces a recipe count ):
#1937 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> oh, wait, it does (138 up from 99), but it waits for the first client connection.
#1938 [13:16] <mbentley> he wasn't kidding about adding a decent number of recipes...
#1939 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#1940 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> Anything note worthy?
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#1942 [13:17] <Solvius> Ok, someone downgraded to the old version, started that up and minecraft happyly updated his downgraded version lol
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#1944 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: music, cake, and new tree blocks, there are black sheep. We apparently have dyes now.
#1945 [13:17] <magik> so i'm assuming this new update brakes hmod? can anyone confirm?
#1946 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I saw the blog
#1947 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes magik
#1948 [13:18] <magik> *breaks
#1949 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> It breaks hmod
#1950 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> magik: almost definitely yes.
#1951 [13:18] <magik> yay!
#1952 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> hell, it even breaks texture packs
#1953 [13:18] <Solvius> as far as I understand it breaks hmod yes
#1954 [13:18] <magik> dopeghoti - that was my assumption - i just wanted confirmation
#1955 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> It does.
#1956 [13:18] <magik> better to hear it the easy way then to try it on my server heh ;)
#1957 [13:18] <mbentley> one thing i noticed on my server is that the startup messages are shorter
#1958 [13:18] <stjohnmccloskey> hey all, so…is there a forum thread that's like…a changelog? because i realize everyone's having this issue with connecting to multiplayer servers
#1959 [13:18] <magik> i already warned everyone to backup their .jars
#1960 [13:18] <magik> but NOOOOOO nobody listens
#1961 [13:19] <DopeGhoti> stjohnmccloskey: http://notch.tumblr.com
#1962 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> damn. ninja'd
#1963 [13:19] <DopeGhoti> stjohnmccloskey: also, re: prople not connecting to servers..
#1964 [13:19] <DopeGhoti> !recent
#1965 [13:19] <stjohnmccloskey> thanks :)
#1966 [13:19] <magik> wait? that's a nice message
#1967 [13:19] <magik> all i got was some malformed byte at position 3
#1968 [13:19] <magik> or something when i tried it myself
#1969 [13:20] <stjohnmccloskey> water dwelling mobs!? uh oh haha note blocks, dyes, new trees, cake! :D this is exciting
#1970 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1971 [13:21] <Solvius> yeah white trees huhuh
#1972 [13:22] <stjohnmccloskey> i just wish i could get onto my favorite server haha, the guy who owns it is pretty busy…it could be all day before he even realizes he needs to update :P
#1973 [13:22] <magik> or he may not update
#1974 [13:22] <magik> because of lack of hmod support
#1975 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Just be aware that modded servers will enter an undisclosed amount of downtime
#1976 [13:22] <Solvius> I hope the old maps cq worlds will be saved
#1977 [13:23] <stjohnmccloskey> hmmm. so actually, i wanted to ask for help because i've been playin for a few weeks and was thinking about starting to try a few mods and i don't know anything about it
#1978 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Ask away stjohnmccloskey.
#1979 [13:24] <mbentley> this isn't really the place for mods
#1980 [13:24] <Solvius> is the following true, I see this on a forum.... hMod won't be updated anymore, bukkit is taking over them so its all when bukkit is done making there mod.
#1981 [13:24] <Mikau> Kealper
#1982 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> That's true, yes
#1983 [13:24] <Solvius> ok, thnx GreyVulpine
#1984 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Most, if not all the developers of hmod went to bukkit
#1985 [13:25] <BurnZeZ> magik: Heh, I backup .jars all the time.
#1986 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> hey0 himself, said that development on hmod has stopped
#1987 [13:25] <BurnZeZ> hmod?
#1988 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> hey0
#1989 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> /hmod
#1990 [13:25] <stjohnmccloskey> i guess now is a bad time to ask though because the new update just came out haha so i would assume none of them are working yet, but if i wanted to any suggestions about which one(s) i should start with? i love the looks of craftbook
#1991 [13:25] <stjohnmccloskey> but as i said, i know nothing about it
#1992 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> No mods for servers work after updates
#1993 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> And since hmod has stopped development, and bukkit is still in the works...
#1994 [13:26] <DopeGhoti> I'd start wtih the 'wait for the mod API' mod.
#1995 [13:26] <mbentley> ^+1
#1996 [13:26] <BurnZeZ> +2
#1997 [13:26] <Solvius> so then we have to wait for bukkit.... and i have no idea what that is :)
#1998 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> successor to hmod
#1999 [13:26] <DopeGhoti> it's pretty easy to install and works with all versions.
#2000 [13:26] <stjohnmccloskey> haha i'm with you solvius
#2001 [13:27] <mbentley> once they have an api for mods, they won't always break
#2002 [13:27] <stjohnmccloskey> in fact i'm not even sure…will mods work in singleplayer or do you only install them on a server for multiplayer
#2003 [13:27] <BurnZeZ> mbentley: The breaking makes it fun!
#2004 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> There are mods for SP, and mods for SMP
#2005 [13:27] <Solvius> well I am depending on my hoster, and on there forum i read that bukkit is not ready yet
#2006 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Some work only on their respective platforms, some are cross-platform
#2007 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> updates like this will probably break SSP mods too
#2008 [13:28] <BurnZeZ> DopeGhoti: Not probably, definitely.
#2009 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> can anyone confirm that this update was _not_ the magical newsavefile format update?
#2010 [13:28] <BurnZeZ> I don't believe so.
#2011 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> my server's /world/ is still a bazillion folders
#2012 [13:28] <stjohnmccloskey> yeah. haha, maybe i'll wait until things calm down before i bust into trying to figure out mods :P
#2013 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Man, what is with these trees.
#2014 [13:29] <BurnZeZ> stjohnmccloskey: Wait for API, otherwise, it's not worth it if you're new to the scene,.
#2015 [13:29] <BurnZeZ> .*
#2016 [13:29] <Solvius> oops I am getting a bit sick, my hoster is talking about day's, not weeks, to solve the probs
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#2018 [13:29] <cutze2k> Hello
#2019 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2020 [13:29] <cutze2k> Can anyone help me?
#2021 [13:29] <mbentley> only if you ask a question :)
#2022 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps, if you ask your question.
#2023 [13:30] <stjohnmccloskey> thanks all appreciate the help :)
#2024 [13:30] <Solvius> no dont let them guess :)
#2025 [13:30] <cutze2k> I cant connect to any server since the new patch,heres the error: http://img836.imageshack.us/i/unbenanntyht.jpg/
#2026 [13:30] <cutze2k> not to a single server
#2027 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> !recent
#2028 [13:30] <Kaito> from what i understand, their server version hasnt' been updated
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#2030 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#2031 [13:31] <cutze2k> umm...okay :)
#2032 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Clients auto-update. Servers don't
#2033 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> You need to wait for server admins to update manually
#2034 [13:31] <cutze2k> thanks
#2035 [13:31] <cutze2k> see ya
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#2041 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Anybody know what the deal is with the funky colored trees?
#2042 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Or is that just me?
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#2044 [13:33] <Kaito> new tree types
#2045 [13:33] <Kaito> i believe
#2046 [13:33] <Kaito> i havent started minecraft since the update
#2047 [13:33] <Kaito> :P
#2048 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> It's grey textured though
#2049 [13:33] * BarryCarlyon checks the "release" notes
#2049 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Like I'm missing something
#2050 [13:33] <Kaito> o.o
#2051 [13:34] <levron> Hey there, I noticed that the last peice of track you place always goes north south. so now i have a rollercoaster with one peice of trackin the wrong direction, it wont go stright any news on this ?
#2052 [13:34] <BarryCarlyon> They are new tree types.
#2053 [13:34] <Kaito> maybe birch?
#2054 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, weird then
#2055 [13:34] <BarryCarlyon> I wonder if its back ported to affect existing trees?
#2056 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> I'll just have to delete and redownload then, just to make sure
#2057 [13:34] <levron> haha yea it sucks i wont beable to do any rail work till its fun
#2058 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Oh wait, texture packs
#2059 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> That's right, I'm still using one
#2060 [13:35] <stjohnmccloskey> hmmmm there are three different kinds of trees/wood now
#2061 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Ignore me, I'm ignorant
#2062 [13:35] <mbentley> lol yeah, that'd do it
#2063 [13:35] <stjohnmccloskey> tthey don't stack haha
#2064 [13:35] <BarryCarlyon> GreyVulpine: I wasn't going to say.....
#2065 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Whoa, now I see them.
#2066 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> They're funky textured
#2067 [13:36] <mbentley> runs like crap on my work laptop once again...
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#2069 [13:36] <levron> any word on this rail way bug ?
#2070 [13:37] <mbentley> otherwise i would take a look around
#2071 [13:37] * Livity [Livity@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2072 [13:37] <Livity> Hello
#2073 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2074 [13:38] <mbentley> hola
#2075 [13:38] <Livity> I have a problem :)
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#2077 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> What problem might that be?
#2078 [13:38] <Livity> After the update I cant connect my server
#2079 [13:38] <mbentley> did you update your server?
#2080 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Need to update your server
#2081 [13:38] <levron> you have to update server too : )
#2082 [13:38] <Livity> How?
#2083 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> redownload the server
#2084 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> replace
#2085 [13:38] <Livity> And, does my map stay?
#2086 [13:38] <mbentley> yeah
#2087 [13:39] <Livity> I will backup anyway :O
#2088 [13:39] <inkblurt> is the mac os x client updated yet?
#2089 [13:39] <mbentley> good idea
#2090 [13:39] <Livity> Ty I test
#2091 [13:39] <levron> it looks like i have a problem also
#2092 [13:39] <inkblurt> (i tried running the mac version but it still has an older version number)
#2093 [13:39] <Livity> Can I see patch notes somewhere?
#2094 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> http://notch.tumblr.com/
#2095 [13:39] <inkblurt> oh wait, no it says 1.2 on top left ... huh.
#2096 [13:40] <mbentley> also >> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#2097 [13:40] <inkblurt> yeah thanks. sorry to bug ya. just was wondering why i was getting errors trying to connect to MP servers
#2098 [13:42] <BarryCarlyon> MP servers need updating by their admins.
#2099 [13:42] <DopeGhoti> !recent
#2100 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> inkblurt: ^
#2101 [13:43] <inkblurt> weird thing was i was getting this javascript error before i updated ... so downloaded update thinking the servers were updated ... anyway I'll sort it out, no big deal :-) thanks
#2102 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Whoa, interesting, bones
#2103 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> and bonemeal.
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#2105 [13:45] <TrueWolves> and white dye
#2106 [13:45] <xKoaLax> Internal exception: java.ioUFTDataFormatException: maleformed input around byte 4 - WHAT THE FUCK CAN I DO >.< ?
#2107 [13:45] <DopeGhoti> bonemeal + black dye == grey dye
#2108 [13:45] <inkblurt> xKoaLax I'm getting that too ,...
#2109 [13:45] <inkblurt> no idea why...was why I came to chan
#2110 [13:45] <Valium> it means the server isnt updated
#2111 [13:46] <inkblurt> ah ok
#2112 [13:46] <xKoaLax> yeah
#2113 [13:46] <Livity> Hey what dyes does?
#2114 [13:46] <BlurP> I want to buy my very own private server, its that possible?
#2115 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Yes BlurP
#2116 [13:46] <Valium> makes colored cloth
#2117 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to find a provider though
#2118 [13:46] <BlurP> Where?
#2119 [13:46] <Livity> lol? what I do with cloth?
#2120 [13:46] <Valium> make pictures
#2121 [13:46] <mbentley> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Cloth
#2122 [13:46] <Livity> ty
#2123 [13:46] <Valium> essentialy
#2124 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> you can make more colorful things to burn down :)
#2125 [13:47] <xKoaLax> This IRC is called: MineCraftHelp ... -_-
#2126 [13:47] <levron> I have a problem
#2127 [13:47] <xKoaLax> Why cant anyone help me
#2128 [13:47] <mbentley> it's true
#2129 [13:47] <mbentley> xKoaLax: try to connect to my server: home.mbentley.net:12345
#2130 [13:48] <inkblurt> may i try too?
#2131 [13:48] <mbentley> sure
#2132 [13:48] <mbentley> it's just an empty test server
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#2134 [13:48] <xKoaLax> Your Server doesn't work!
#2135 [13:48] <mbentley> inkblurt ws able to get in
#2136 [13:48] <inkblurt> server works for me
#2137 [13:48] <Valium> xKoaLax: what are you trying to do, play multiplayer?
#2138 [13:48] <Livity> xkoalax has bought the game?
#2139 [13:48] <xKoaLax> Yes, of course
#2140 [13:48] <mbentley> xKoaLax: what happens when you try to connect?
#2141 [13:48] <xKoaLax> Yes i bought it
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#2144 [13:49] <mbentley> 'Your Server doesn't work!' doesn't tell us much
#2145 [13:49] <xKoaLax> Failed to connect to the server
#2146 [13:49] <mbentley> ok
#2147 [13:49] <Valium> minecraft.status3gaming.com, try it, it's updated, if it doesnt work, well, I dunno
#2148 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> greyvulpine.dyndns.org works.
#2149 [13:49] <mbentley> are you sure you typed it correctly xKoaLax?
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#2151 [13:49] <mbentley> it is definitely up and running
#2152 [13:49] <xKoaLax> No
#2153 [13:49] <xKoaLax> My IGN is: thething123
#2154 [13:50] <BlurP> GreyVulpine, do u know where I can buy me a private server?
#2155 [13:50] <Livity> Blurp
#2156 [13:50] <BlurP> yes?
#2157 [13:50] <Livity> Every country has their own
#2158 [13:50] <xKoaLax> Disconectet by Server
#2159 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> BlurP - It all depends on where you want it hosted
#2160 [13:50] <Imasu> i cant conect to anny server >>
#2161 [13:50] <xKoaLax> Took to long to log in
#2162 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Imasu - greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#2163 [13:50] <BlurP> How about Norway?
#2164 [13:50] <Livity> Even I could start a host company :P
#2165 [13:50] <Livity> You have to google
#2166 [13:50] <Imasu> lets try that
#2167 [13:50] <evtl> someone know how to fix "Internal exception: java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 3"
#2168 [13:50] <xKoaLax> BOAH i sold a game that doesn't work *facepalm*
#2169 [13:50] <BlurP> yeah, thanks anyway
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#2171 [13:50] <Livity> "Dedicated server"
#2172 [13:50] <mbentley> evtl: try an updated server?
#2173 [13:51] <lunarblu> Hey guys, quick question. How ould I get minecraft not to update in Mac OS X?
#2174 [13:51] <evtl> ip pls ^^
#2175 [13:51] <BlurP> dedicated server just lagged
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#2177 [13:51] <mbentley> evtl: home.mbentley.net:12345
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#2179 [13:51] <Ikaruga> hi
#2180 [13:51] <Livity> Hey.. if I open my old map, does the new items (update) spawn there?
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#2182 [13:51] <XencesD> hi
#2183 [13:51] <Valium> Livity: no
#2184 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Not in already generated chunks
#2185 [13:51] <XencesD> i need some hepl
#2186 [13:51] <evtl> kk
#2187 [13:51] <Valium> until you reach new area
#2188 [13:51] <evtl> server not updatet
#2189 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> XencesD - With?
#2190 [13:51] <Livity> I need to do new map :O
#2191 [13:52] <XencesD> uhmm
#2192 [13:52] <XencesD> i dont see this irc on my server
#2193 [13:52] <Valium> Livity: or find unexplored area
#2194 [13:52] <Livity> crap
#2195 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> What server?
#2196 [13:52] <XencesD> icraft
#2197 [13:52] <Imasu> GreyVulpine can i keep playing on that server XD
#2198 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Then add it yourself.
#2199 [13:52] <XencesD> how
#2200 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Imasu - Sorry, it's only for testing connections
#2201 [13:52] <Imasu> oh ok
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#2203 [13:53] <inkblurt> thanks for the test
#2204 [13:53] <XencesD> ?
#2205 [13:53] <Ikaruga> please some1 help me out, Minecraft server crashing my router. I want to play with the kid on lan, but router is crashing after a few seconds. We used to play lots of lan games, no problmes until now with other games. tested with other router and it's the same:( any help would be greatly appreciated
#2206 [13:53] <Imasu> sooo the server needs to be updated
#2207 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> XencesD - We don't really support custom servers here.
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#2209 [13:53] <Imasu> got it
#2210 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> XencesD - All I can say is, check their wiki/forums/website
#2211 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> This irc network is irc.esper.net
#2212 [13:53] <XencesD> ...
#2213 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> if there's a way to add it
#2214 [13:53] <XencesD> yes
#2215 [13:54] <XencesD> this minecrafthelp
#2216 [13:54] <XencesD> why u cant help me:S
#2217 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes, indeed it is.
#2218 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Because I can't be arsed to know every custom mod out there.
#2219 [13:54] <aetherian> yay diamonds
#2220 [13:55] <Ikaruga> is it some kind of bug i don't know about? or any workaround?
#2221 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> What bug?
#2222 [13:55] <Ikaruga> ^^
#2223 [13:55] * GreyVulpine sighs and reads up.
#2223 [13:55] <Ikaruga> ty
#2224 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> How is it crashing your router?
#2225 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Tried firmware updates for your router?
#2226 [13:56] <Ikaruga> I have to powercycle it
#2227 [13:56] <Valium> he said it's happening on another as well
#2228 [13:56] <Ikaruga> I'm use to set up networks for companies with 200+ ppl
#2229 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> another... router?
#2230 [13:57] <Ikaruga> dunno if that makes any difference, but other games just do fine
#2231 [13:57] <Valium> basically, his NIC or network stack is fucked and he's blaming the router
#2232 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> I'm using a low-end, consumer linksys router, hasn't crashed mine since I first played minecraft
#2233 [13:57] <Ikaruga> no
#2234 [13:57] <Ikaruga> its the router
#2235 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Care to give us more info on the router?
#2236 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Have you googled?
#2237 [13:57] <Ikaruga> and yes the nic is flooding it on minecraft port
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#2239 [13:57] <Ikaruga> DLG-4500
#2240 [13:58] <Ikaruga> I use to run servers at night and we play cod or other games over the internet, without any problems
#2241 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> You know the first thing I'm going to do, is google that, right?
#2242 [13:58] <Ikaruga> so router is fine
#2243 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes, because basing gameplay on others, means it can't be it.
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#2245 [13:59] <Ikaruga> ok I see you are tired, sorry, and thanks for your time
#2246 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> You don't know what sort of netcode minecraft uses, or forces your NIC to talk to your router with
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#2249 [14:01] <heskos99> immer wenn ich in minecraft in multiplayer will hengt es sich bei downloaden terrain auf warum ?
#2250 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Ikaruga - How do you have your d-link router set up to port forward?
#2251 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the default port?
#2252 [14:02] <heskos99> ich möchte auf einen server und haben selber keinen offen
#2253 [14:02] <Ikaruga> I made it DMZ
#2254 [14:03] <Ikaruga> I dont have a sitch here so I made both PC DMZ
#2255 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Why did you make it DMZ?
#2256 [14:03] <Ikaruga> just to make sure:)
#2257 [14:03] <Ikaruga> but its the same :(
#2258 [14:03] <Valium> Ikaruga: DMZ has no basis here. You said you are trying to connect over LAN
#2259 [14:04] <heskos99> ??
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#2261 [14:04] <Ikaruga> yea, but DLINK routers are crap imo, so I just tested if there is not a FW bug or anything, so I put both computer into DMZ, I know its lan
#2262 [14:04] <Ikaruga> but its the same
#2263 [14:04] <Ikaruga> also tested other ports
#2264 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Got a crossover cable?
#2265 [14:04] <Valium> Based on your claim of being in the business of setting up corporate LAN's and making an obvious mistake as such, I declare you noob. Godd day sir.
#2266 [14:04] <Ikaruga> and kinda everything in the last few weeks
#2267 [14:04] <heskos99> is a hamachi server
#2268 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> heskos99 - We have no idea what you're saying. I don't speak german.
#2269 [14:05] <AG_Elias> heskos99, Versuchen Sie, den Kunden wieder?
#2270 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Ikaruga - Happen to have a crossover cable that you can use to directly connect those two computers?
#2271 [14:05] <Ikaruga> Valium did I ever talk to you, or did I mention if I care about your opinion
#2272 [14:05] <Ikaruga> ?
#2273 [14:06] <heskos99> how speak german
#2274 [14:06] <heskos99> ??
#2275 [14:06] <Ikaruga> yea I just have very little time to play with this kind of stuff, so I hopped into here to ask if its a know porblem or anything
#2276 [14:06] <Valium> Ikaruga: no, but your apparently false claim upsets me. If you KNOW dlink to be crap, then why buy it?
#2277 [14:06] <AG_Elias> GreyVulpine, he is having issues with the client freezing everytime he joins a server and starts downloading terrain.
#2278 [14:06] <Ikaruga> I will test the crossover next
#2279 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#2280 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Does he get into the server?
#2281 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Or does it stop at downloading terrain
#2282 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Does it time out?
#2283 [14:06] <Ikaruga> because it was free
#2284 [14:07] <ArmEagle> hmpf. (SMP) Creepers seem to die immediately the second time you get near. I thought they would restart their fuse
#2285 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Is he getting any error messages?
#2286 [14:07] <Ikaruga> please dont troll me, leave me alone
#2287 [14:07] <Livity> Is there a list of new recipes or?
#2288 [14:07] <Valium> Ikaruga: as you wish.
#2289 [14:07] <AG_Elias> heskos99, haben sie in?
#2290 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Try #minecraft, some people there are trying to figure out the recipes
#2291 [14:07] <Livity> oki
#2292 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> If not, the wiki will probably have it
#2293 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> in short time
#2294 [14:07] <AG_Elias> bekommen sie fehlermeldungen?
#2295 [14:08] <Valium> GreyVulpine: actually, more than trying, decompiling the recipe code would be more accurate
#2296 [14:08] * GreyVulpine nods
#2296 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Ooo, item durability's been fixed, I see.
#2297 [14:08] <mbentley> darn ;)
#2298 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> that had happened before
#2299 [14:08] <AG_Elias> heskos99?
#2300 [14:09] <heskos99> internal execption: java.io.UTFDataformatexception:malformed input around byte 8
#2301 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> AG_Elias - Could you get him to try connecting to greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#2302 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> !recent
#2303 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> See if he gets the same error
#2304 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> heskos99: ^
#2305 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Do we have confirmation that error's because of an un-updated server?
#2306 [14:10] <AG_Elias> heskos99, ein neues programm ver�ffentlicht wurde. Notwendigkeit der aktualisierung.
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#2308 [14:11] <heskos99> i join to a server download terrain..... Internal exeception: java.io.UTFDataFormatExeception: malformed input around byte 8
#2309 [14:11] <Ikaruga> GreyVulpine: it's the same with crossover cable, I will bring a different NIC to home tomorrow and test it.
#2310 [14:11] <AG_Elias> heskos99, geh mal an greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#2311 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Wait what?
#2312 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> the same what?
#2313 [14:12] <Valium> It's not the router.
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#2315 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> I suggested a crossover cable to cut out the router from the equation
#2316 [14:12] <mib_tvi7qg> Hi
#2317 [14:12] <AG_Elias> Anything else, GreyVulpine?
#2318 [14:12] <mib_tvi7qg> Any of you know when SMP will be online again?
#2319 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> It's online.
#2320 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Your server admin just needs to manually update
#2321 [14:12] <mib_tvi7qg> Well thats me, how do I do so
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#2323 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the server, replace file
#2324 [14:12] <Livity> Is there any other way to buy the game than debit cards? my friend wants to buy it..
#2325 [14:12] <mib_tvi7qg> Okay
#2326 [14:12] <Livity> ?
#2327 [14:12] <mib_tvi7qg> thank you
#2328 [14:13] <mbentley> Livity: paypal
#2329 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> AG_Elias - ?
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#2332 [14:13] <Livity> paybal isnt debit card system=
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#2334 [14:13] <Livity> ?
#2335 [14:13] <AG_Elias> GreyVulpine, anything else he could try?
#2336 [14:13] <jdodson99> Why is it always "my friend" and not "my cousin" or "my uncle jack?"
#2337 [14:13] <Kaito> i believe you can use paypal with debit cards
#2338 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Is he still getting the error, even trying to connect to greyvulpine.dyndns.org?
#2339 [14:13] <mbentley> Livity: paypal accepts credit card, debit cards, bank accounts, etc
#2340 [14:13] <AG_Elias> GreyVulpine, I don't know, he hasn't answered me yet.
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#2342 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Okay.
#2343 [14:14] <mib_up73n8> I wont lose my map if I redownload it right
#2344 [14:14] <mbentley> right
#2345 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Right mib_up73n8
#2346 [14:14] <Livity> ty
#2347 [14:14] <mib_up73n8> okay, I'll try, ty
#2348 [14:15] <jdodson99> I'm trying to join my server, but it says "Connection refused." and I also get the dreaded "[WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?" message.
#2349 [14:15] <jdodson99> I checked my port forwarding and everything is correct :/
#2350 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> The latter is normal.
#2351 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> How are you connecting to your server?
#2352 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Via what IP?
#2353 [14:15] <jdodson99> My internal IP
#2354 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> 127 or 192 or 10
#2355 [14:15] <mbentley> are there any other errors in the startup messages?
#2356 [14:16] <jdodson99> 192
#2357 [14:16] <mbentley> *errors
#2358 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> jdodson99 - What OS are you using?
#2359 [14:16] <jdodson99> Mac 10.5.8 Leopard
#2360 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> It's probably a firewall/security software issue
#2361 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Are you running anything like that?
#2362 [14:16] <jdodson99> No, and my server was running fine last night...
#2363 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure that computer's still got that 192.168 ip address?
#2364 [14:17] <jdodson99> I double-checked my IP, the IP in the server.properties, and the ports/IPs in my router settings
#2365 [14:17] <mbentley> jdodson99: are there any other errors in the startup messages?
#2366 [14:17] <jdodson99> mbentley: No, just that one.
#2367 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> server-ip= should be blank in server.properties
#2368 [14:17] <jdodson99> It should??? o_O
#2369 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2370 [14:17] <jdodson99> Then how do people connect?
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#2372 [14:18] <mbentley> that is only if you have multiple network interfaces and need to bind to one of them specifically
#2373 [14:18] <Livity> Hey.. this paypal thingy, I can see only credit/debit card chooses
#2374 [14:18] <Livity> no bank
#2375 [14:18] <Livity> :S
#2376 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Livity - You can choose to link a bank account to it.
#2377 [14:18] <mbentley> it's there...
#2378 [14:18] <jdodson99> You have to sign up for a paypal account I believe.
#2379 [14:18] <reedlepee> how can I change my user nam/password
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#2381 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - To minecraft?
#2382 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Log into minecraft.net and change it on your profile page
#2383 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> And you can't change your username.
#2384 [14:19] <mbentley> Livity: when logged into your paypal account, go to 'profile' > 'add or edit bank account'
#2385 [14:19] <reedlepee> so how can I change my user name if someone has stolen it?
#2386 [14:19] <jdodson99> You don't. You just change your password.
#2387 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> Email mojang.
#2388 [14:19] <jdodson99> ^that
#2389 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Send an email to daniel@mojang.com with proof of payment, and everything else you think you need to verify you are who you say you are
#2390 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> and describe your problem
#2391 [14:20] <reedlepee> ok thanks guys
#2392 [14:20] <jdodson99> So, I delete the ip in server-ip=, what now?
#2393 [14:21] <jdodson99> *deleted
#2394 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Double check your computer's IP
#2395 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Try connecting with 127.0.0.1
#2396 [14:22] <jdodson99> One thing that's confusing me is the fact that when I change the IP in the "port forwarding" section of my router options, it says "cannot be the same as network IP" or something, so I have to change my network IP to be able to make it work.
#2397 [14:22] <jdodson99> Would that be what's wrong with it?
#2398 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
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#2400 [14:23] <XencesD> heey
#2401 [14:23] <mbentley> hi
#2402 [14:23] <XencesD> hi again
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#2404 [14:23] <XencesD> can u help me:P
#2405 [14:23] <jdodson99> O_O that was weird
#2406 [14:23] <mbentley> sure
#2407 [14:24] <XencesD> do u now icraft?
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#2409 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> No.
#2410 [14:24] <mbentley> nope
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#2412 [14:24] <mbentley> mods aren't really supported in here...
#2413 [14:24] <XencesD> cause i have the server and i run it no porbb but ichange something tryu again and it wont start:P
#2414 [14:25] <grand> are all smp server broke?
#2415 [14:25] <XencesD> ?
#2416 [14:25] <mbentley> grand: no
#2417 [14:25] <mbentley> server need to be manually updated
#2418 [14:25] <mbentley> *servers
#2419 [14:25] <jdodson99> I double-checked everything and I still get the "connection refused" D:
#2420 [14:25] <grand> ahh how?
#2421 [14:25] <Kaito> mbently: so if i obught a server now, with the update already installed, i could play?
#2422 [14:25] <Kaito> *bought
#2423 [14:25] <mbentley> redownload the server .jar
#2424 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> jdodson99 - Did you try connecting with 127.0.0.1?
#2425 [14:26] <jdodson99> Not yet
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#2427 [14:26] <mbentley> Kaito: sure
#2428 [14:26] <grand> k's
#2429 [14:26] <Kaito> awesome, thank you
#2430 [14:26] <jdodson99> Nope, didn't work.
#2431 [14:26] <anadrom> I can't authenticate toe MC server right now... it wants me to play offline.
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#2433 [14:28] <mbentley> jdodson99: you are running the server and client on the same machine, right?
#2434 [14:28] <cometen> hey
#2435 [14:28] <jdodson99> Yes, I am
#2436 [14:28] <jdodson99> mbentley
#2437 [14:28] <mbentley> and you are still getting 'connection refused'?
#2438 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Then something is screwy, if you can't connect via loopback
#2439 [14:29] <mbentley> i don't know of any security software that would filter/stop loopback traffic...
#2440 [14:29] <jdodson99> mbentley: Yes I am
#2441 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> windows firewall does it
#2442 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> usually have to turn it off
#2443 [14:29] <grand> ok feel stupid but where i get latest jar?
#2444 [14:30] <mbentley> !server
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#2448 [14:32] <Livity> Hey.. question again
#2449 [14:32] <Livity> When Im running server
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#2452 [14:32] <Livity> I have 1 friend with me, the server and even my game lags
#2453 [14:32] <Livity> I have good pc..
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#2455 [14:32] <Yoosfulidiot> So what can we look forward to with this newest patch?
#2456 [14:32] <Kaito> are you running the server and client on the same computer?
#2457 [14:32] <Livity> 8mbit download and 1mbit upload
#2458 [14:32] <Livity> Yes
#2459 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Yoosfulidiot - http://notch.tumblr.com/
#2460 [14:33] <Kaito> theres your problem
#2461 [14:33] <Livity> lol
#2462 [14:33] <Yoosfulidiot> Thanks
#2463 [14:33] <mbentley> define 'good pc'
#2464 [14:33] <jdodson99> Windows XP.
#2465 [14:33] <jdodson99> xD
#2466 [14:33] <Livity> Does it really do such difference if server takes 10% of my memory
#2467 [14:33] <Livity> :O
#2468 [14:33] <Livity> processor is 40%
#2469 [14:33] <Livity> -.-
#2470 [14:34] <Kaito> :P
#2471 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> Could you please give us your server's specs?
#2472 [14:34] <cometen> Any of you having problems after the opdate in singelplayer. My game freeze when I try to open a chest
#2473 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> Livity: the server's only taking 10% of your memory? You have 10GB? Nice.
#2474 [14:34] <Livity> asodjapsfas
#2475 [14:34] <Livity> f:D
#2476 [14:34] <Livity> nvm
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#2478 [14:34] <Livity> huoh
#2479 [14:35] <Livity> I have to buy new pc for my server wtf?
#2480 [14:35] <Kaito> OR
#2481 [14:35] <Kaito> you could rent a server
#2482 [14:35] <Kaito> :P
#2483 [14:35] <Ikaruga> GreyVulpine, thanx for your time and effort, the problem is solved: I reverted the driver of the NIC to an earlier version, and it's running perfectly now, (so If I reinstall latest it's crashing, but installing earlier driver fixes the problem). The points is that it's not a Minecraft bug, which is very good news:)
#2484 [14:35] <Livity> Im not rich
#2485 [14:35] <Livity> :D
#2486 [14:35] <Kaito> 15 USD a month
#2487 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Ikaruga - Glad you got it solved. g'luck
#2488 [14:35] <Kaito> split that among friends/admins, and it's cheep
#2489 [14:35] <Kaito> :P
#2490 [14:35] <Livity> fuk thats like 1% of my salary.. come oN!
#2491 [14:35] <mbentley> Livity: maybe you should try to find a server you and your friend can play on
#2492 [14:35] <NinjaKirby> With that kinda subscription, I'd just upgrade my PC
#2493 [14:35] <Livity> ok little more -.-
#2494 [14:35] <mbentley> there are tons out there
#2495 [14:36] <Ikaruga> nn
#2496 [14:36] <Kaito> Ninja: what do you mean?
#2497 [14:36] <Livity> mbentley.. We like to play with "survival" duo I don't want server with other douches in
#2498 [14:36] <Livity> -.-
#2499 [14:36] <Kaito> 15 USD is the cheepest i can find
#2500 [14:36] <anadrom> everytime I try to connect to my server "java.io.utfdataformatexception malformed input around byte 1"
#2501 [14:36] <NinjaKirby> $15 a month? My last upgrade didn't cost too much, and atm I'm "dual-wielding" the Server and Client
#2502 [14:36] <anadrom> other people are able to connect
#2503 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> anadrom - Did you update your server?
#2504 [14:36] <anadrom> well, not *my* server
#2505 [14:37] <mbentley> the owner needs to update then :)
#2506 [14:37] <Livity> Huoh I put my server to my mini-laptop
#2507 [14:37] <anadrom> but i imagine they did update
#2508 [14:37] <anadrom> yet
#2509 [14:37] <anadrom> yes
#2510 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> you imagine?
#2511 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Or are you sure?
#2512 [14:37] <anadrom> well yeah because lots of people are connected
#2513 [14:37] <anadrom> besides me
#2514 [14:37] <Mjiig> anadrom: that's the exact same error i've been getting on my friends updated server
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#2516 [14:37] <mbentley> they were probably already connected
#2517 [14:37] <anadrom> oh
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#2519 [14:37] <Mjiig> anadrom: and it stopped when he updateded...
#2520 [14:37] <anadrom> ok thanks for that
#2521 [14:37] <mbentley> if they were previously connected then they don't have the update
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#2524 [14:39] <anadrom> ok yeah you're right
#2525 [14:40] <jdodson99> AAAAARRRRRGHHHHHH. I'm giving up on servers until Notch makes them easy to use -.-
#2526 [14:41] <mbentley> seems easy here :)
#2527 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Very
#2528 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Downloading the server took longer than setting it up
#2529 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> they are easy to use
#2530 [14:41] <jdodson99> Macs make everything harder -.-
#2531 [14:41] <Joshua> its quite simple to run compared to most games
#2532 [14:42] <Joshua> if youve ever worked with source engine servers
#2533 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> my minecraft server took orders of magnitude less configuration than my TFC server did.
#2534 [14:42] <Joshua> you know what im talking about
#2535 [14:42] <Valium> jdodson99: Macs are easy
#2536 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Oh god. I still have nightmares of srcds
#2537 [14:42] * GreyVulpine shudders
#2537 [14:42] <Joshua> and dont get me started on cinfigging gmod
#2538 [14:42] <Valium> jdodson99: details on your boggle?
#2539 [14:42] <Joshua> configging
#2540 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: Can I still inflict a reflexive cringe by invoking the name of MetaMod?
#2541 [14:43] * GreyVulpine STABS DopeGhoti
#2541 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> that sounds like a 'yes'.
#2542 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> so I won't.
#2543 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> metamod/sourcemod
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#2545 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> oh god those sucked
#2546 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> As nice as AdminMod was, it sure was a PITA
#2547 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> brb, teamviewing.
#2548 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> Also, what the f[bleep]k, jboss? Why is your /tmp/ directory getting up to 15GB?!
#2549 [14:45] <NinjaKirby> God damnit, I'm getting owned by every monster on my server, is this really normal? It's impossible to use the same attack distance/judgements that one would use in Single player Survival
#2550 [14:45] <mbentley> smp is serious business :)
#2551 [14:46] <NinjaKirby> Really is ^^;; By contrast, Hard difficulty is a walk in the park
#2552 [14:46] <mbentley> it isn't easy hanging out at night on a new map where you don't have much
#2553 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> s/on a new map//
#2554 [14:46] <NinjaKirby> I'm kitted out, I copied my Level to my Server, it's just... it's like the swing distances are wrong
#2555 [14:47] <NinjaKirby> The moment I can hit a Zombie, they can hit me.
#2556 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: when you tear into the Zombie, the Zombie tears also into you.
#2557 [14:47] <mbentley> lol DopeGhoti
#2558 [14:47] <mbentley> yeah, it isn't easy to hit them without taking damage
#2559 [14:47] <NinjaKirby> lol Dope
#2560 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> kill some spiders, get a bow. problem solved.
#2561 [14:48] <NinjaKirby> Well, it's not a problem in survival. It must just be the delay.
#2562 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> I mostly only use my sword for renovating fences.
#2563 [14:48] <NinjaKirby> I'm a big fan of balancing the usage of both, but I guess I'll have to lean towards more bowage
#2564 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> (why is a sword faster at chopping down wooden fences than an _axe_ is? It is a mystery!)
#2565 [14:50] <lunarblu_> Hey guys excuse me, Can you let me know how to start the minecraft client so that it does not update on a Mac?
#2566 [14:50] <Valium> lunar, run the jar in terminal
#2567 [14:51] <mbentley> starting it on the terminal won't keep it from updating...
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#2569 [14:53] <Valium> no?
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#2571 [14:53] <Mikau> Anyone have a really high end computer here?
#2572 [14:53] <Valium> not the launcher jar, the game jar
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#2575 [14:54] <ArmEagle> bah, creepers explode when you're above them too now
#2576 [14:55] <mbentley> they exploded when you were above them before
#2577 [14:55] <mbentley> just ask my minecart track :(
#2578 [14:55] <ArmEagle> oh, well it's not like I played real survivor mode for a long time.. But that's what I recalled..
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#2580 [14:56] <Aco> Hello
#2581 [14:56] <Aco> i need some hel
#2582 [14:56] <Aco> help
#2583 [14:56] <mbentley> Aco: ask away
#2584 [14:56] <nipper> Still love the blacksheep mob.
#2585 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> you're in the right place
#2586 [14:56] <thereddeh> does beta 1.2 have performanceissues or is it just me using a texturepack without the new blocks
#2587 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> probably the latter, thereddeh
#2588 [14:57] <Aco> i have Trouble whit the new Update
#2589 [14:57] <Aco> i can"t play Onlline
#2590 [14:57] <Aco> ...
#2591 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> Aco: could you be more specific?
#2592 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> ah
#2593 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> !recent
#2594 [14:57] <Aco> a ok but how can i update my own server whitouet destroy Evrything again ?
#2595 [14:57] <mbentley> stop the server
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#2597 [14:57] <thereddeh> then hammertime the server
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#2599 [14:58] <mbentley> replace the minecraft_server file with the new one
#2600 [14:58] <mbentley> restart
#2601 [14:58] <lunarblu> sorry guys I got botted
#2602 [14:58] <lunarblu> booted
#2603 [14:58] <thereddeh> is that like getting egged but with boots?
#2604 [14:58] <lunarblu> How can I run minecraft client on a mac without it updating?
#2605 [14:58] <Aco> aok wher can i get the new Minecraft_server file
#2606 [14:58] <Aco> srry im a noob
#2607 [14:58] <Aco> i"M
#2608 [14:59] <mbentley> !server
#2609 [14:59] <Aco> aa FOunt
#2610 [14:59] <Aco> thx you
#2611 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#2612 [15:00] <Aco> but the Problem are i dont need the exer
#2613 [15:00] <Aco> exe
#2614 [15:00] <Aco> .. or yes '
#2615 [15:00] <Aco> can i download it put other folter and just Rewrite the file that i need
#2616 [15:00] <Aco> whit ti ?
#2617 [15:00] <Aco> Whit it
#2618 [15:01] <Aco> thx you
#2619 [15:01] * Aco Thx you :D
#2619 [15:01] * Aco Shake the Hand
#2619 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> <o
#2620 [15:01] <mbentley> lol
#2621 [15:02] <Aco> but it dont work
#2622 [15:02] <mbentley> why not?
#2623 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> could you be more specific?
#2624 [15:02] <Aco> i use server_nogui_x64
#2625 [15:02] <Aco> ...
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#2627 [15:02] <mbentley> no clue what that is...
#2628 [15:02] <Aco> i can"t use the file
#2629 [15:02] <Aco> Exe
#2630 [15:02] <Aco> emm
#2631 [15:02] <Aco> i gonna look
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#2634 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> huh.
#2635 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> Bonemeal actually works as a fertilizer
#2636 [15:04] <lemon-rev> update ?
#2637 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> as well as a dye addative
#2638 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: Update.
#2639 [15:04] <lemon-rev> just loaded up minecraft
#2640 [15:04] <lemon-rev> its doing an update
#2641 [15:04] <lemon-rev> >?
#2642 [15:04] <mbentley> tis true
#2643 [15:04] <lemon-rev> soemthing new
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#2645 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> Several things new.
#2646 [15:05] <lemon-rev> i should look at world of notch
#2647 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> Top of the morning to ya, Pommesgabel
#2648 [15:05] <mbentley> ninjas, etc
#2649 [15:05] <mbentley> ...i can't back that up
#2650 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> there are waterninjas
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#2652 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> they lack Real Ultimate Power however
#2653 [15:06] <lemon-rev> oh
#2654 [15:06] <lemon-rev> they come out at night like other things
#2655 [15:06] <lemon-rev> or hm
#2656 [15:06] <lemon-rev> at odd times
#2657 [15:06] * mbentley is ready to get pumped
#2657 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> yes; only at time not evenly divisible by two.
#2658 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: would you say you're getting.. primed?
#2659 [15:07] <lemon-rev> ok so appart from knowing the bare basics of whats updated how do you find this stuff out, in game
#2660 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> finding out in-game? Short of just exploring and trying random new things in the Craftulator?
#2661 [15:08] <lemon-rev> hm
#2662 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> Not sure if you've noticed, but Minecraft isn't exactly heavy on the documentation front yet.
#2663 [15:08] <lemon-rev> well still dont know about this so called 15 wool dyes
#2664 [15:08] <lemon-rev> hahhahaha
#2665 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> "so.. called?"
#2666 [15:08] <lemon-rev> really, naa i guess i havent seen that yet since theres a crap load on the minecraft wiki so far
#2667 [15:09] <lemon-rev> yea
#2668 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> what would you call them?
#2669 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> sheephair dyes?
#2670 [15:09] <lemon-rev> soo. called ie havent had dye in minecraft as of yeet since i havent played classic yety
#2671 [15:09] <mbentley> people just rip apart the game to find them...
#2672 [15:09] <lemon-rev> well it would have to bee sheep blocks yes i suppose
#2673 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> I don't think "so-called" means what you think it means.
#2674 [15:09] <mbentley> literally looking in the files :D
#2675 [15:09] <lemon-rev> hm
#2676 [15:10] <lemon-rev> hm,
#2677 [15:10] <lemon-rev> oh well
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#2679 [15:10] <i81u812> aww yeah
#2680 [15:10] <i81u812> update time
#2681 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> we know, ieightoneueightonetwo.
#2682 [15:10] <mbentley> nowai!
#2683 [15:11] <i81u812> did mine craft wiki get updated recipe list?
#2684 [15:11] <i81u812> f it im checking
#2685 [15:11] * TW|Away Facedesks...
#2685 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> is that anything like a headpalm, TW|Away?
#2686 [15:12] <i81u812> awesome .... the cake isint a lie... im sure youve heard that enough today
#2687 [15:12] <i81u812> damn portals
#2688 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> The cake is a lie though
#2689 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> it's not make with eggs
#2690 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> so it's not a real cake.
#2691 [15:13] <i81u812> ok but the cake wasnt really a lie....
#2692 [15:14] <mbentley> mmm cake
#2693 [15:14] <i81u812> now black mesa on the other hend
#2694 [15:14] <mbentley> DopeGhoti: yeah it is
#2695 [15:14] * GreyVulpine is back.
#2695 [15:14] <i81u812> hand
#2696 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> Did I miss anything?
#2697 [15:14] <Kealper> RAWR
#2698 [15:14] <mbentley> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/e/eb/CraftingCakeIO.png
#2699 [15:14] <Kealper> wait, grey you just got back too? lol
#2700 [15:14] <mbentley> The recipe for cake is 3 milk, 2 sugar, 1 egg and 3 wheat. The Milk is replaced by Empty Buckets after crafting.
#2701 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> Oh nice
#2702 [15:14] <i81u812> damn there is eggs
#2703 [15:14] <Yoosfulidiot> Thank you GreyVulpine! I love you! <3
#2704 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: oh, it updated? There used not to be egg in the recipe
#2705 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> this pleases me greatly.
#2706 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#2707 [15:15] <i81u812> no more thorowing them ... well I still will
#2708 [15:15] <mbentley> according to the wiki
#2709 [15:15] * mbentley throws eggs at DopeGhoti
#2709 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> I still maintain my position that westell modems are absolute shite.
#2710 [15:15] <lemon-rev> hay thats a good question how do you get milk out of cows if all you can do is get hide out of them ?
#2711 [15:15] <zz> use a bucket on them
#2712 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> "There is a 0.02% chance that when attempting to eat a cake, that a chicken will jump out of it."
#2713 [15:15] <lemon-rev> lol really, i suppose i havent tryed that yet
#2714 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> and the only real modems are Hayes modems*.
#2715 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> *: Yes, I know Hayes doesn't exist any longer. Even so.
#2716 [15:16] <i81u812> they should let you pour milk on the ground like water....
#2717 [15:16] <i81u812> but idk thats questionable for all sorts of reasons
#2718 [15:17] <mbentley> milk waterfall
#2719 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> too much crying would result
#2720 [15:17] <mbentley> lol DopeGhoti
#2721 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> plus, the smell. oh god the smell
#2722 [15:17] <mbentley> enter mold
#2723 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> remember, this milk isn't pasteurized.
#2724 [15:18] <i81u812> yeah its just the youe tube videos plus that kinect to landscape thing with milk waterfalls not could but would be bad
#2725 [15:18] <i81u812> lol you*
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#2727 [15:19] <i81u812> im just still wondering about save formats....
#2728 [15:19] <mbentley> what about the save formats?
#2729 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> What about them?
#2730 [15:19] <i81u812> or worrying more or less
#2731 [15:19] <mbentley> they haven't changed
#2732 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> no change to save format yet, ieightoneueightonetwo
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#2734 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#2735 [15:19] <i81u812> yes yet is my worry
#2736 [15:20] <mbentley> i can't imagine they would change the save formats without being able to convert them to the new format
#2737 [15:20] <i81u812> I could only hope
#2738 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> notch has confirmed there will be conversion
#2739 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> I really hope that the new format is SQLite or something
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#2741 [15:21] <i81u812> idk you know there is always a chance of data loss when converting though
#2742 [15:21] <mbentley> backups, backups, backups
#2743 [15:21] <ArmEagle> wow, spiders can jump 4 blocks high? I clearly haven't played with monsters for too long
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#2745 [15:22] <i81u812> thats different when I started the game back up it was paused...
#2746 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> SQLite save files would rule: "UPDATE terrain SET block_type = ( SELECT type_id FROM block WHERE block.description='TNT' ) WHERE block_type = ( SELECT type_id FROM block WHERE block_description='Wood' );"
#2747 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> (as a quick random example)
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#2749 [15:24] <mbentley> haha DopeGhoti
#2750 [15:25] <mbentley> that would be awesome
#2751 [15:25] <tom> Guise halp DX can't get minecraft to run
#2752 [15:25] <tom> its saying .dll is not a valid windows installation diskette
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#2754 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#2755 [15:26] <cheesecake> Read it again
#2756 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> cheesecake: who is DX and why aren't they asking for help personally?
#2757 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> have them come here so we can offer assistance directly.
#2758 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> I think DX is supposed to be a face..
#2759 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Not sure though
#2760 [15:26] <cheesecake> -facepalm
#2761 [15:27] <Aco> can someone help me :(
#2762 [15:27] <Aco> i wanna update my server
#2763 [15:27] <Aco> but it dont work ....
#2764 [15:27] <cheesecake> its uspposed to be a face
#2765 [15:27] <cheesecake> Moron
#2766 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the server file, replace
#2767 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> wait.. you come in here and spell "guys" as "giuse", and _you_ are facepalming?
#2768 [15:27] <cheesecake> are you retarded?
#2769 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> No need for personal attacks here
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#2771 [15:28] <mbentley> Aco: what is your issue? it is simple as downloading the new server file and replacing the old one with the new one
#2772 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: when asking for help, be clear and consice. LOLSpeak is neither.
#2773 [15:28] <Aco> i use server_nogui_x64
#2774 [15:28] <Aco> ...
#2775 [15:28] <mbentley> Aco: i have no clue what that is
#2776 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> You're using a modded server?
#2777 [15:28] <Aco> i deletet the Old minecraft_server
#2778 [15:28] <Aco> yes
#2779 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> mods no longer work
#2780 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> until they update
#2781 [15:28] <mbentley> oh well that would be your problem...
#2782 [15:28] <Aco> hes updatet the new server_
#2783 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> and hmod, doesn't update
#2784 [15:29] <Aco> Hmod was besst
#2785 [15:29] <Aco> ;:(/
#2786 [15:29] <mbentley> we don't really support mods... ask the developer for help
#2787 [15:29] <Aco> what can i use now ?
#2788 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Devs of hmod has stopped development
#2789 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Stop using hmod?
#2790 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> The best mod is the "Wait for the Mod API" mod
#2791 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Use vanilla.
#2792 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> It works.
#2793 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> it's compatible with all versions of the server.
#2794 [15:29] <Aco> i know but :(
#2795 [15:29] <mbentley> vanilla. so tasty. just works.
#2796 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> No buts.
#2797 [15:29] <Aco> the Bukkit
#2798 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> If you want your server to work right now, vanilla.
#2799 [15:29] <Aco> dont work
#2800 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> If you want to stay with hmod, you'll be waiting indefinitely.
#2801 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> There's a hole in the Bukkit.
#2802 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> development has ceased
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#2804 [15:30] <Aco> wer can i download Minecraft - Vanilla
#2805 [15:30] <Aco> Vanilla
#2806 [15:30] <Aco> ?
#2807 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> !server
#2808 [15:31] * DopeGhoti prefers Rocky Road.
#2808 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> Or Cookies 'n Creme
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#2810 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Oooo... I'll cast a vote for the latter
#2811 [15:31] <Aco> !server
#2812 [15:31] <Aco> XD
#2813 [15:31] <Aco> ok
#2814 [15:31] <Aco> but the Vanilla mod ?
#2815 [15:31] <mbentley> with vanilla you can make every flavor
#2816 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> no mods
#2817 [15:31] <Aco> or whatever it is
#2818 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> *headdesk* Vanilla means the stock server with no mods
#2819 [15:32] <mbentley> 'vanilla' means 'plain' aka no mods
#2820 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> You run it without mods
#2821 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> there is no "vanilla mod"
#2822 [15:32] <Aco> aaa ok
#2823 [15:32] <Aco> ..
#2824 [15:32] * mbentley writes a mod and calls it 'vanilla'
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#2825 [15:32] <mbentley> #!/bin/bash
#2826 [15:32] <mbentley> rm -rf /
#2827 [15:32] <mbentley> done
#2828 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> You forgot sudo
#2829 [15:32] <mbentley> real men run as root
#2830 [15:32] <mbentley> :p
#2831 [15:32] * GreyVulpine snerks
#2831 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: I was always partial to :(){:&:};:
#2832 [15:33] <Aco> i"m a rlly noob
#2833 [15:33] <Aco> ....
#2834 [15:33] <Aco> srry
#2835 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> protip: don't ever run that command.
#2836 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> We were all noobs once
#2837 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> either of them.
#2838 [15:33] * Aco #Sigh@ thx guys
#2838 [15:33] <mbentley> thanks for the disclaimer DopeGhoti
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#2840 [15:33] <aetherian> boom
#2841 [15:33] <i81u812> /ok
#2842 [15:33] <i81u812> #!/bin/bash
#2843 [15:34] <mbentley> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp0eTVnBkVw
#2844 [15:34] <KillSpammer> Beep
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#2846 [15:34] <ArmEagle> hmm, running the new server on my own PC, with just me on it. And it seems it's terribly slow in generating new areas and sending those updates to my client
#2847 [15:34] <i81u812> did I died?
#2848 [15:34] <KillSpammer> Aetherian has been blown up by my beep.
#2849 [15:34] <KillSpammer> Lol
#2850 [15:34] <aetherian> I already blew up
#2851 [15:34] <KillSpammer> I laughed at the guy who said: I have a bug, its a floating jellyfish in the nether.
#2852 [15:34] <aetherian> I blew so hard I moved the clouds
#2853 [15:35] <knls> how come i can't place minecart tracks like i want to?
#2854 [15:35] <aetherian> arrrgh, a ghast
#2855 [15:35] <knls> (beta, singleplayer)
#2856 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> ArmEagle: running the server and the client at the same time on the same machine?
#2857 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> ArmEagle: how much RAM have you?
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#2859 [15:36] <ArmEagle> 2GB.. guess that's the problem. But it's a brand new world
#2860 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't matter. Your server is, by default, allocating a gig to it.
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#2862 [15:37] <ArmEagle> hmm
#2863 [15:37] <Prarastas> hi ppl
#2864 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Your client, is running it concurrently, sucking up to 600-800 megs as wel
#2865 [15:37] <Prarastas> can soem1 help plz? its about bukkit?
#2866 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> all that and the OS
#2867 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> Prarastas: no mod support ehre
#2868 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> try #bukkit perhaps?
#2869 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Prarastas - #bukkit
#2870 [15:37] <Prarastas> where can i donwlaod bukkit?
#2871 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Ask in #bukkit
#2872 [15:37] <Prarastas> thank you
#2873 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> And now, I eat.
#2874 [15:38] <NinjaKirby> lol
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#2876 [15:38] <knls> does anyone know anything about why i can't place my minecart tracks like i want to?
#2877 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope
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#2879 [15:38] <dopeghoti> knls: south-west rule?
#2880 [15:38] <knls> when i want to make a turn, the track go left
#2881 [15:38] <knls> or straight
#2882 [15:38] <knls> wth
#2883 [15:38] <knls> :(
#2884 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's the southwest rule
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#2886 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/South-west_rule
#2887 [15:39] <knls> ok, tyvm, will read :)
#2888 [15:40] <Aco> ....
#2889 [15:40] <Aco> The new server dont work good
#2890 [15:40] <Aco> its just
#2891 [15:40] <Aco> ...
#2892 [15:40] <Aco> im not admin
#2893 [15:40] <Aco> no Commands nofing are anymore cool
#2894 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> add yourself to ops.txt
#2895 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> or "op yourself" in the server console
#2896 [15:42] <Aco> and my Game IP
#2897 [15:42] <Aco> changet
#2898 [15:42] <Aco> how taht
#2899 [15:42] <Aco> ?
#2900 [15:42] <Aco> now 192.168.0.189:25565
#2901 [15:42] <Aco> it was
#2902 [15:42] <Aco> 178.82.247.40
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#2904 [15:42] <Aco> emm
#2905 [15:42] <RandomRotta> hey
#2906 [15:42] <aetherian> yo
#2907 [15:42] <RandomRotta> evening ^^
#2908 [15:42] <aetherian> afternoon
#2909 [15:42] <RandomRotta> um, i have a question
#2910 [15:42] <aetherian> really?
#2911 [15:42] <RandomRotta> could someone try to connect to my ip
#2912 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#2913 [15:43] <RandomRotta> im trying to set up a server
#2914 [15:43] <aetherian> I thought you came to #minecrafthelp for the chatter
#2915 [15:43] <aetherian> >.>
#2916 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Some do
#2917 [15:43] <RandomRotta> hold on
#2918 [15:43] <RandomRotta> randomcraft.no-ip.biz
#2919 [15:43] <RandomRotta> i have a dns ^-^
#2920 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> !check randomcraft.no-ip.biz
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#2923 [15:43] <Ed> hey there o/
#2924 [15:43] <RandomRotta> are you able to log-in?
#2925 [15:43] <Ed> quick question, is it possible to set a multiplayer server in hard mode ?
#2926 [15:44] <RandomRotta> yes, its possible
#2927 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> RandomRotta - Yes
#2928 [15:44] <Ed> how to ?
#2929 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> ed - In hard mode?
#2930 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> How do you mean?
#2931 [15:44] <mbentley> there aren't exactly modes like in single player
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#2933 [15:44] <RandomRotta> thanks, grey
#2934 [15:44] <Ed> well yeah, I mean, isn't a server in normal mode per default ?
#2935 [15:44] <RandomRotta> :D
#2936 [15:44] <Ed> hmm
#2937 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> You can't change 'difficulty' like that.
#2938 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> You can either turn mobs and animals on or off
#2939 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> turning them off is peaceful
#2940 [15:45] <Ed> no way to make it more difficult ?
#2941 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> on, is survival. That's really it
#2942 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Not currently in vanilla.
#2943 [15:45] <NinjaKirby> More difficult? Are you kidding me? XD
#2944 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Not aware of any mods that would do that.
#2945 [15:45] <Ed> oh well alright
#2946 [15:46] <Ed> :p nights are calm in the realm we created with my friend
#2947 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> I remember one where you could control the % of spawning.. but that was bugged
#2948 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> And part of hmod
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#2950 [15:46] <XencesD> hi
#2951 [15:47] <XencesD> i have 1 more question
#2952 [15:47] <XencesD> hew kan u kick someone out of minecraft with irc or backwards?
#2953 [15:47] <NeedSomeHelp> Hello, ich want to set up the mod from hey0 on the mincraft server but it doeasent work . Error:
#2954 [15:47] <NeedSomeHelp> java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: cw.<init>(Lnet/minecraft/server/MinecraftServer;)V
#2955 [15:47] <NeedSomeHelp> at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.<init>(SourceFile:57)....
#2956 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Again XencesD, we don't support mods here
#2957 [15:47] <KillSpammer> Don't paste that here.
#2958 [15:47] <Ed> well then thanks for the answers, I'm gonna go back to building this world o/ ta-ta
#2959 [15:47] <KillSpammer> Paste it here: pastebin.com
#2960 [15:48] <XencesD> ok srry
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#2962 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> NeedSomeHelp - The server has been recently updated
#2963 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> hmod no longer works
#2964 [15:48] <KillSpammer> Oh...
#2965 [15:48] <XencesD> with dous?
#2966 [15:48] <KillSpammer> Lol
#2967 [15:48] <Aco> :(
#2968 [15:48] <KillSpammer> I'll check bukkit :)
#2969 [15:48] <Aco> Hmod was awesome
#2970 [15:48] <Aco> :(
#2971 [15:48] <Aco> Bukkit are not fiet
#2972 [15:48] <Aco> ..
#2973 [15:48] <Aco> fixet
#2974 [15:48] <mbentley> give it time. bukkit was never ready from what i understand
#2975 [15:48] <RandomRotta> How much bandwitdth is for 5 players?
#2976 [15:48] <RandomRotta> i mean
#2977 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Say, a meg upload?
#2978 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> roughly
#2979 [15:48] <RandomRotta> how many players can 1mb/up handle
#2980 [15:48] <NeedSomeHelp> GreyVulpine: can i download the old jar version?
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#2982 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> NeedSomeHelp - You can, sure, but all clients are automatically updated on login
#2983 [15:49] <NeedSomeHelp> -.-
#2984 [15:50] <NeedSomeHelp> is that possible that hmod update the mod?
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#2986 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> No
#2987 [15:50] <mbentley> NeedSomeHelp: no
#2988 [15:50] <NeedSomeHelp> why?
#2989 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> hey0 has stopped development on it
#2990 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=23340
#2991 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> hey0 - "Bukkit will be superseding hMod. Once Bukkit is ready, hMod will no longer be updated. I no longer have an interest in Minecraft, so this change is for the best. The hMod forum won't be deleted though, so you can keep posting and such, if you really want. It won't be very moderated though, since there'll be no point in doing so.
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#2994 [15:51] <KillSpammer> There will be unoffical releases proberly
#2995 [15:51] <KillSpammer> So you want you can go check them out
#2996 [15:51] <RandomRotta> any nice plugins for smp servers worth checking out?
#2997 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> nope. Not at the moment
#2998 [15:52] <RandomRotta> is there a way to create custom commands
#2999 [15:52] <mbentley> write a mod/plugin
#3000 [15:52] <stib26a> Can someone help me with a server question?
#3001 [15:52] <RandomRotta> java?
#3002 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> stib26a - Ask the question.
#3003 [15:52] <RandomRotta> stib26a go ahead
#3004 [15:52] <mbentley> whatever you want as long as it works
#3005 [15:53] <stib26a> awesome. I don't see a minecraft_server.jar for the new release?
#3006 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Sure there is.
#3007 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> !server
#3008 [15:53] <stib26a> only the alpha server seems available
#3009 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> The text hasn't been updated
#3010 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> It *IS* the beta server
#3011 [15:53] <NeedSomeHelp> someone know a well compatible multiplayer mod ?
#3012 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> NeedSomeHelp - Nope.
#3013 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> There are none at the moment
#3014 [15:53] <stib26a> oh awesome thanks guys :) :)
#3015 [15:53] <mbentley> kills me that they still haven't updated everything that says 'alpha'
#3016 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#3017 [15:54] <NeedSomeHelp> man that very bad...
#3018 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, I'd rather them work on minecraft, than take a time away to fix needless things
#3019 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> anyhoo, brb.
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#3023 [15:56] <Indekkusutaku> Well, just got back, as in 5 mins ago from doing a clean OS install and I still cannot connect to minecraft.net.
#3024 [15:57] <Indekkusutaku> Any ideas as to why?
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#3026 [15:58] <NeedSomeHelp> when i have the old server with mod, it doesent update or?
#3027 [15:58] <NeedSomeHelp> and connect with a new client , does it work?
#3028 [15:58] <mbentley> NeedSomeHelp: no
#3029 [15:58] <Kaito> GAH!
#3030 [15:58] <Kaito> stupid paypal
#3031 [15:58] <NeedSomeHelp> there is no way -.-?
#3032 [15:59] <NeedSomeHelp> absoulutly?
#3033 [15:59] <mbentley> that is correct
#3034 [16:00] <NeedSomeHelp> but other new mod can be create? :D
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#3036 [16:00] <Daniel> Hello
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#3038 [16:00] <mbentley> NeedSomeHelp: new mods can be created
#3039 [16:00] <Daniel> Anyone here?
#3040 [16:00] <mbentley> all mods have to be updated when a new release comes out
#3041 [16:00] <mbentley> nothing new about that
#3042 [16:01] <NeedSomeHelp> ok.....mmmmm thanks for help
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#3044 [16:01] <mbentley> np
#3045 [16:01] <Daniel> Anyone know why my server doesn't let me or anyone connect saying java.IOException bad packet ID 64?
#3046 [16:01] <mbentley> Daniel: update your server
#3047 [16:02] <Daniel> Oh. There was an update? :)
#3048 [16:02] <mbentley> yup
#3049 [16:02] <Daniel> Hah, thanks a bunch mate.
#3050 [16:02] <mbentley> np
#3051 [16:03] <Indekkusutaku> OK, lets try again.
#3052 [16:03] <Indekkusutaku> Can anyone help me?
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#3054 [16:04] <NeedSomeHelp> someone konw to make a public sever, a have create by some tutorials but nobody can connect over the internet, error is a timeout?
#3055 [16:04] <Indekkusutaku> lol, I guess not, what a great staff.... --.--
#3056 [16:07] <NinjaKirby> Clean OS install, and you can't connect to minecraft.net, and surf the website?
#3057 [16:07] <NinjaKirby> But other websites are accessible?
#3058 [16:07] <aetherian> indekkusutaku: no one can help you. you are beyond help.
#3059 [16:07] <Indekkusutaku> Yes
#3060 [16:07] * aetherian is away: school
#3060 [16:08] <Indekkusutaku> If im beyond help I would prefer an email for Majong they acctualy check.
#3061 [16:09] <NinjaKirby> Pinging Minecraft.net reveals complete timeouts? Perhaps set the Router for factory defaults, and save a copy of the config before hand
#3062 [16:09] <Indekkusutaku> No I can ping with 0% packet loss
#3063 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> What does it resolve to?
#3064 [16:09] <NeedSomeHelp> internet is conected, port is open(tested by website, and configured in the router), lokal connect is possible, over internet not, have someone a ideer
#3065 [16:10] <Indekkusutaku> It resolves to 194.28.157.42
#3066 [16:10] <Daniel> What was in the latest update?
#3067 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit will be superseding hMod. Once Bukkit is ready, hMod will no longer be updated. I no longer have an interest in Minecraft, so this change is for the best. The hMod forum won't be deleted though, so you can keep posting and such, if you really want. It won't be very moderated though, since there'll be no point in doing so.
#3068 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> er
#3069 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> crap
#3070 [16:10] <NinjaKirby> NeedSomeHelp: Maybe make specific exceptions in any relevant Firewalls you may be operating
#3071 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> http://notch.tumblr.com/
#3072 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> for update list
#3073 [16:11] <NeedSomeHelp> NinjaKirby: my firewall is off
#3074 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Indekkusutaku - Try a different DNS
#3075 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> OpenDNS or googles?
#3076 [16:12] <NinjaKirby> lol, that's the thing about Firewalls, you disable them and they still block traffic *Coughs* Zone alarm and on occasions ESET *coughs*
#3077 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Hey, I've used eset for a number of years
#3078 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> haven't had any problems
#3079 [16:12] <Indekkusutaku> End all related nonsystem prosseces for your firewall program
#3080 [16:12] <NinjaKirby> I paid for ESET and enjoy it immensely, it doesn't feel like a toy, but it's given me jip once
#3081 [16:13] <NeedSomeHelp> i have only the windows firewall and disabled it under win7pro
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#3083 [16:13] <NinjaKirby> They are definately typing in your current Public Address followed by the suitable Port Number? And the server is configured to work with that port?
#3084 [16:14] <NinjaKirby> And are you certain I'm about to eat a Jaffa Cake? *Nom nom nom*
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#3087 [16:15] <morton> Sorry to interrupt, but am I the only one experiencing the client going black and ceasing to respond?
#3088 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> morton - No, no you are not
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#3090 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> It's actually a widespread problem, with few solved cases
#3091 [16:16] <morton> Thanks, I only needed to hear that
#3092 [16:16] <NinjaKirby> I bet it's a Chipset Graphics issue
#3093 [16:16] <LatHans> hi ho! Will I need to create a new world after the new update if I want all of the new stuff?
#3094 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes LatHans
#3095 [16:16] <morton> Satisfies me that it's not my computer doing it...
#3096 [16:16] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine,
#3097 [16:16] <KillSpammer> I have a problem.
#3098 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#3099 [16:16] <LatHans> GreyVulpine: is there anyway around it?
#3100 [16:16] <nipper> Is anyone else having a mass spawn of farm animals with the new client/server?
#3101 [16:16] <KillSpammer> When i craft a dispenser
#3102 [16:16] <KillSpammer> It doesn't come up with anything...
#3103 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> LatHans - Go to the edge of the map, all newly generated chunks will have it
#3104 [16:17] <KillSpammer> I following the exact recipe from the WikI
#3105 [16:17] <KillSpammer> No texture pack
#3106 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, have yet to craft one
#3107 [16:17] <LatHans> I see. thanks
#3108 [16:17] <KillSpammer> FUUU
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#3110 [16:19] <NinjaKirby> Killspammer, I just tested mine, works okay
#3111 [16:19] <LatHans> GreyVulpine: what will I be missing if I don't? charcoal and lapis lazuli?
#3112 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> new trees
#3113 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> new stuff
#3114 [16:20] <LatHans> hm.. better start a new server or something then;)
#3115 [16:20] <NinjaKirby> I don't understand how it's useful though
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#3117 [16:27] <NinjaKirby> Christ, I can't wait for Trap doors, a folding floor doorway
#3118 [16:28] <Con> Can’t you just put the door-in-the-floor
#3119 [16:30] <fork> i wish a pressure plate would cover an entire tnt block
#3120 [16:30] <fork> :>
#3121 [16:30] <NinjaKirby> lol fork, that would be awesome
#3122 [16:31] <NinjaKirby> And Con... erm... hmmm...
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#3124 [16:31] <xales> ello Shadow386
#3125 [16:31] <Shadow386> well then, that makes sense
#3126 [16:31] <Shadow386> xD
#3127 [16:31] <Shadow386> heard people are recommending my server :P
#3128 [16:31] <NinjaKirby> Yeah, I guess so actually, although it wouldn't look as good, nor as... accessible
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#3131 [16:33] <xales> I reccomend it when people ask, Shadow :)
#3132 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> crap.
#3133 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Anybody here run 7?
#3134 [16:33] <Indekkusutaku> Windows?
#3135 [16:33] <Shadow386> GreyVulpine I do
#3136 [16:33] <Indekkusutaku> If so yes.
#3137 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Can I get somebody to paste their environment PATH variable here?
#3138 [16:34] <Shadow386> uh one sec
#3139 [16:34] <NinjaKirby> Mine was incredibly long, so this should be good
#3140 [16:34] <Shadow386> C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Shared;C:\Program Fiels\java\j2sdk1.4.1\bin;C:\Program Files\TortoiseSVN\bin;C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_21\bin\javac.exe
#3141 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Thank you
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#3143 [16:36] <NinjaKirby> I just shat my pants, didn't realise spiders could "glitch thought ceilings"
#3144 [16:36] <Shadow386> although I tink im missing something...
#3145 [16:36] <NinjaKirby> *Through, god damnit
#3146 [16:37] <Shadow386> oh shi-
#3147 [16:37] <Shadow386> thought ceilings?
#3148 [16:37] <Shadow386> new block!
#3149 [16:37] <NinjaKirby> lol, I wouldn't want to stand under one of them
#3150 [16:37] <Shadow386> I would
#3151 [16:37] <Shadow386> it'd save me from rain ;D
#3152 [16:37] <NinjaKirby> ^^;;
#3153 [16:38] <Shadow386> "Its raining!" "Quick, think up a thought ceiling!"
#3154 [16:39] <Shadow386> anyone have any idea why I cannoy open jars due to "Main class cannot be found" no matter what it is?
#3155 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> Need to launch it in the directory where you have minecraft.jar?
#3156 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> And you need to use the command line?
#3157 [16:40] <Shadow386> Im talking about the Minecraft_server.jar
#3158 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> That too
#3159 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> How are you executing it?
#3160 [16:40] <Shadow386> I use command lines fine, but other then that, it's just ignoring main classes
#3161 [16:40] <Shadow386> double clock :D
#3162 [16:40] <Shadow386> lick*
#3163 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> That.. won't work.
#3164 [16:40] <Shadow386> CLICK*
#3165 [16:41] <Shadow386> worked in XP :<
#3166 [16:41] <Shadow386> alrighty ty
#3167 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3168 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Need to use that in command prompt
#3169 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> In the directory where you have minecraft.jar
#3170 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> er, the server.
#3171 [16:41] <Shadow386> I have a server.bat containing java -Xmx1G -Xms1G -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3172 [16:41] <Shadow386> and it works fine
#3173 [16:41] <Shadow386> just saying, cant execute it like I could on XP
#3174 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#3175 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> That looks like it should work.
#3176 [16:42] <Shadow386> execute with a double click* i mean
#3177 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> And minecraft_server.jar is in the same directory where you have that bat file?
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#3179 [16:43] <Shadow386> the bat file works fine, I know how that stuff works. just cant double click the minecraft_server.jar file like I could on XP like an executable
#3180 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I getcha now
#3181 [16:43] * GreyVulpine nods
#3181 [16:43] <Shadow386> its nothing big, but tired of having to make a bat when trying different things lol
#3182 [16:44] <NinjaKirby> Huh? Would you have to add some Arguments to the command line of the .jar file? I'm a newb to Java stuff, so I'm guessing
#3183 [16:44] <Shadow386> just re-read the topic, so I have these bugs...
#3184 [16:44] <Shadow386> they're like, the size of a small dog flying around my house
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#3187 [16:46] <BAllenigrus1> can someone tell me how to update my server to 1.2 beta ?
#3188 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Just redownload the server
#3189 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Replace yours
#3190 [16:46] <BAllenigrus1> i dont know.. but i dont reacvh the server :S
#3191 [16:46] <BAllenigrus1> minecraft.net
#3192 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Um, can you ping minecraft.net?
#3193 [16:47] <BAllenigrus1> can u give me complete link so my friend can download it
#3194 [16:47] <BAllenigrus1> ?
#3195 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> !server
#3196 [16:47] <BAllenigrus1> yes i can
#3197 [16:47] <BAllenigrus1> ty
#3198 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> BAllenigrus1 - What does it resolve to when you ping it?
#3199 [16:47] <BAllenigrus1> sec
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#3201 [16:48] <BAllenigrus1> 128 ms
#3202 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> What is the address?
#3203 [16:48] <BAllenigrus1> 194.28.157.42
#3204 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that should be right
#3205 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> the website is up for me.
#3206 [16:49] <BAllenigrus1> ye but i think something is wrong with my router
#3207 [16:49] <BAllenigrus1> wont allow.. think ill reset
#3208 [16:49] <BAllenigrus1> there isnt any blocks though
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#3210 [16:51] <NinjaKirby> Can OP's be set to immortal at all? (i.e. Temporary peace mode, one could say)
#3211 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> In vanilla, no.
#3212 [16:52] <NinjaKirby> That's quite amazing.
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#3214 [16:54] <NinjaKirby> Welcome back TrueWolves
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#3220 [17:01] <Indekkusutaku> the support Email is support@mahjong.net right?
#3221 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> depends on what you want support on
#3222 [17:02] <Indekkusutaku> I want support on why none of the computers on my IP can acces minecraft.net
#3223 [17:02] <Indekkusutaku> It has come to my atention that my IP got changed the otherday
#3224 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Um, I don't know if anybody at mojang can help you with that
#3225 [17:03] <Indekkusutaku> So im wondering if im on a banlist for some reason.
#3226 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Try an email to daniel@mojang.com
#3227 [17:03] <Indekkusutaku> Thank you.
#3228 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Beyond that, look at your setup, maybe give your ISP a call
#3229 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> It sounds like a local problem with your setup
#3230 [17:04] <Indekkusutaku> I just got off the phone with them.
#3231 [17:04] <Indekkusutaku> I have factory reset my modem and re-installed my OS, it cant be my problem
#3232 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Hooked up a computer directly to your modem?
#3233 [17:05] <Indekkusutaku> Yes
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#3236 [17:05] <Fausterion> hey all
#3237 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#3238 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Try a tracert to minecraft.net ?
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#3240 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> See if there's any packets being dropped at a hop
#3241 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net, for me, resolves to 194.28.157.42
#3242 [17:06] <Fausterion> is it normal for a server to constantly state this message: "[WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?"
#3243 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes it is Fausterion
#3244 [17:07] <Fausterion> ok
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#3246 [17:07] <Indekkusutaku> Aye thats how it resolves for me
#3247 [17:07] <Fausterion> annoying when I'm trying to read user activity
#3248 [17:07] <Fausterion> lol
#3249 [17:07] <Fausterion> thanks
#3250 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Any routers in the way being crap?
#3251 [17:07] <Fausterion> later
#3252 [17:08] <Indekkusutaku> No, no routers.
#3253 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Did you try another DNS solution?
#3254 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Either using your NIC or your router, enter an alternative DNS?
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#3256 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/
#3257 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> 8.8.8.8
#3258 [17:09] <NinjaKirby> 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 for Open DNS :3
#3259 [17:09] <i81u812> Im getting some strange stuff going on now with making tracks....
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#3261 [17:11] <i81u812> did they do something about tracks glitching or boosting?
#3262 [17:12] <i81u812> I cant seem to lay down the track not even in an oval last peice is always sideways now
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#3264 [17:13] <Indekkusutaku> Ok, tried the public DNS and it didnt help.
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#3266 [17:13] <Max_> hi
#3267 [17:13] <Max_> i need some help
#3268 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> With
#3269 [17:14] <i81u812> so anything about the tracks?
#3270 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Indekkusutaku - Yeah, I'm sorry then, I don't know.
#3271 [17:14] <Max_> i cant find a good server to play on
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#3273 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Max_ - Beta servers, http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#3274 [17:14] <Indekkusutaku> Thanks, it dosent seem anyone can help. Sucks to be me, lol.
#3275 [17:14] <NinjaKirby> Real long shot, but if you got a spare NIC kicking about, I'd try that Indekku
#3276 [17:14] <Indekkusutaku> I dont
#3277 [17:15] <Indekkusutaku> But i have tested it on 3 already
#3278 [17:15] <NinjaKirby> Oh right, sorry :/
#3279 [17:15] <Max_> ty
#3280 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> Indekkusutaku: ask your ISP to lease you a new IP address?
#3281 [17:15] <Indekkusutaku> One on the comp, and my other one has two that i tried on.
#3282 [17:15] <Indekkusutaku> I did they said they arent allowed
#3283 [17:15] <i81u812> so does anyone know about the minetrack problem today or is it just me
#3284 [17:15] <NinjaKirby> Ah? Proxy to Minecraft.net?
#3285 [17:15] <Indekkusutaku> I can prxy
#3286 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> Indekkusutaku: have your modem/router release the IP, turn off your modem for a couple hours. If your ISP is at all using dynamic IPs, that should get you a new one
#3287 [17:16] <Indekkusutaku> But thats not a permant solution so i was hoping to avoid it until the last second
#3288 [17:16] <Max_> are there any servers with monsters and normal gameplay ?
#3289 [17:16] <Max_> like singleplayer ?
#3290 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> Max_: only most of them
#3291 [17:17] <Indekkusutaku> @DopeGhoti The problem is i have other computers that cant be off for that long
#3292 [17:17] <Max_> ha, ok :P
#3293 [17:17] <Max_> didnt find any yet
#3294 [17:17] <NinjaKirby> The Server names aren't particularly insightful, are they Max? ^^;;
#3295 [17:17] <Max_> could you give an reliable example ?
#3296 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> Indekkusutaku: you don't have to shut your actual PCs down; just your modem
#3297 [17:17] <Max_> its all about city-like building and free building
#3298 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> Indekkusutaku: it's your WAN IP that you're trying to get re-issued; your LAN IPs are irrelevant.
#3299 [17:18] <Max_> but no monsters anywhere :(
#3300 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> Max_: huh. Most of the fun on my server is nighttime creeper-hunting expeditions.
#3301 [17:18] <Indekkusutaku> I know, I mean those computer cant be without internet for that long, The house has a work/personal internet connection all in one
#3302 [17:18] <Kaito> Max, i sent you a private message
#3303 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> well.. s/Most/A good portion /
#3304 [17:18] <Indekkusutaku> If i turn off the modem No work will get done
#3305 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> Indekkusutaku: so release the IP and shut the modem off when everyone's asleep :)
#3306 [17:19] <Indekkusutaku> Unfortuanly the bussnesss donst really sleep in this economy, lol
#3307 [17:19] <i81u812> so I guess nobody can help?
#3308 [17:20] <Indekkusutaku> Perhaps, I'll wait a couple of day and then do it.
#3309 [17:20] <NinjaKirby> i81u812: I haven't seen anyone mention a solution, I think it's just buggered for the moment.
#3310 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> ieightoneueightonetwo: I just had someone on my server mention track issues too. Looking into it.
#3311 [17:20] <i81u812> ok I was just making sure it wasnt just me also since I have miles of track and dont want to have to lay it all down
#3312 [17:21] <i81u812> again
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#3317 [17:25] <Izzeh> lol, whoa!
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#3320 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Like I said, network dying
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#3322 [17:26] <Izzeh> I can't change my Nick, I guess the servers are overwhelmed
#3323 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> One of the leafs probably desyncd
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#3328 [17:28] <Maximiliator> iz it back up ?
#3329 [17:29] <i81u812> idk loos like net split?
#3330 [17:29] <i81u812> looks?
#3331 [17:29] <Maximiliator> hmmmmm...
#3332 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Not a netsplit
#3333 [17:29] <i81u812> anyways it seems you cant make a comlete loop right now...
#3334 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> Why do people always react with such amazement when there are netsplits? They're not exactly new.
#3335 [17:29] <Maximiliator> somehow i cant join any server. There has been an update. Am i desynced with the servers now ???
#3336 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Maximiliator - Server admins need to manually update their servers
#3337 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> !recent
#3338 [17:30] <i81u812> so looped boosts are not working....
#3339 [17:30] <Maximiliator> i didnt join any server yet...
#3340 [17:30] <Maximiliator> does any1 know a server that has been updated already ?
#3341 [17:30] <i81u812> idk if you can loop the track at all though
#3342 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> greyvulpine.dyndns.org - available to test
#3343 [17:31] <Maximiliator> wow, thnx ! :D
#3344 [17:31] <Maximiliator> i m on
#3345 [17:31] * GreyVulpine nods
#3345 [17:31] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: It's even more amusing once you start /ignoring joins and parts. Suddenly people are like "whoa, omg!" for no apparent reason
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#3347 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> xolotl: heh
#3348 [17:31] <Izzeh> GreyVulpine: If I can ask, how do you prevent that redirecting to your Routers Web interface?
#3349 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> prevent.. what?
#3350 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> hint: TCP ports.
#3351 [17:32] <Izzeh> Right
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#3353 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> also, I suspect GreyVulpine is hip enough to not have enabled remote http-based management of any routers he might be using
#3354 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#3355 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> I'm not that stupid
#3356 [17:33] <i81u812> so yeah no making looped tracks at all ill be back later to see if theres a fix....
#3357 [17:36] <fogwraith> I had an intelligent router like that before
#3358 [17:36] <fogwraith> VoIP router, did accept external connections through port 80, straight to the interface
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#3368 [17:50] <aetherian> I can't believe that cake takes nine steel to make =\
#3369 [17:50] <Kealper> what?
#3370 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> (the buckets)
#3371 [17:50] <aetherian> cake
#3372 [17:50] <fogwraith> Steel... cake?
#3373 [17:50] <aetherian> ^^
#3374 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> (which you don't lose)
#3375 [17:51] <aetherian> oh
#3376 [17:51] <aetherian> you don't.
#3377 [17:51] * aetherian is an idiot
#3377 [17:51] <Kealper> fail
#3378 [17:51] <aetherian> :|
#3379 [17:51] <buzzinator> lol I was confused for a sec
#3380 [17:51] <aetherian> I'm going to go hide now
#3381 [17:51] * DopeGhoti is still annoyed that you do lose the bucket when magmafueling furnaces though
#3381 [17:51] <aetherian> well
#3382 [17:51] <aetherian> if you didn't
#3383 [17:51] <aetherian> it would be op
#3384 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> the furnace would get a magic @?
#3385 [17:52] <aetherian> ...
#3386 [17:52] <aetherian> >.>
#3387 [17:52] <aetherian> @_@
#3388 [17:52] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#3389 [17:52] <Kealper> awwww yeaaahhh
#3390 [17:52] <aetherian> oho
#3391 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> word to.. someone.
#3392 [17:52] <buzzinator> ok so quick question
#3393 [17:52] <aetherian> yes?
#3394 [17:52] <fogwraith> Well crap, another update, I see
#3395 [17:53] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/GNAT0.png <--probably wrong, could be .jpg
#3396 [17:53] <buzzinator> if I'm on an old world, would I have to go to a newly generated area (unexplored) to find the new ore blocks?
#3397 [17:53] <Utoxin> buzzinator: Yes.
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#3399 [17:53] <buzzinator> alrighty
#3400 [17:53] <aetherian> anyone know what these new blocks are?
#3401 [17:53] <Utoxin> aetherian: Many.
#3402 [17:53] <aetherian> I think you mean
#3403 [17:53] <aetherian> everyone but aetherian
#3404 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> there's a new Lapis ore that's.. blue?
#3405 [17:54] <Kealper> indeed
#3406 [17:54] <aetherian> what's it do?
#3407 [17:54] <Utoxin> Yeah. Lapis (blue dye) is blue stone. Found at the same depth as redstone.
#3408 [17:54] <aetherian> oh
#3409 [17:54] <aetherian> cool
#3410 [17:54] <aetherian> that's cool
#3411 [17:54] <Kealper> sandstone now, too
#3412 [17:54] <Utoxin> Can also make lapis blocks with it.
#3413 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> and soundstone.
#3414 [17:54] <Utoxin> sandstone = 4 sand
#3415 [17:55] <aetherian> I made a music thing
#3416 [17:55] <aetherian> )
#3417 [17:55] <aetherian> :)
#3418 [17:55] <aetherian> the soundstone
#3419 [17:55] <aetherian> easy to make
#3420 [17:55] <Utoxin> There's charcoal. HALELUJAH.
#3421 [17:55] <aetherian> :O
#3422 [17:55] <aetherian> what o_O
#3423 [17:55] <Utoxin> log + fuel = charcoal (functions as coal, but doesn't stack with coal)
#3424 [17:56] <aetherian> log+fuel, what is fuel?
#3425 [17:56] <aetherian> new thing?
#3426 [17:56] <Utoxin> Any fuel. wood, coal, magma, etc.
#3427 [17:56] <aetherian> ohh
#3428 [17:56] <aetherian> how many does it smelt?
#3429 [17:56] <Utoxin> Same as coal.
#3430 [17:56] <aetherian> then why use it?
#3431 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> so wood + wood == charcoal?
#3432 [17:56] <aetherian> haha
#3433 [17:56] <Utoxin> 8 logs + coal/charcoal = charcoal
#3434 [17:56] <Utoxin> aetherian: So you don't have to find coal.
#3435 [17:56] <Utoxin> = 8 charcoal, even
#3436 [17:57] <aetherian> wood+wood=8 charcoal?
#3437 [17:57] <aetherian> effectively 8 coal?
#3438 [17:57] <Utoxin> 8 wood + coal = 8 charcoal
#3439 [17:57] <aetherian> ohh
#3440 [17:57] <Utoxin> Each wood becomes a charcoal.
#3441 [17:57] <aetherian> I see
#3442 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> wait
#3443 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> why do you need coal?
#3444 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> wood is fuel too
#3445 [17:57] <Utoxin> Coal lasts longer.
#3446 [17:57] <Kaito> Coal is more efficient
#3447 [17:57] <aetherian> pfft
#3448 [17:57] <aetherian> efficiency
#3449 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> wood is renewable.
#3450 [17:57] <Kaito> 8 coal smelts an entire 64 block of <whatever>
#3451 [17:58] <Kaito> coal is now renewable
#3452 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> so would charcoal.
#3453 [17:58] <Kaito> :P
#3454 [17:58] <Utoxin> I have to smelt a /crapload/ of cobblestone back into smoothstone for a project. I've been desparate for coal. ;)
#3455 [17:58] <Kaito> burn trees
#3456 [17:58] <aetherian> you. and only you. can start forest fires.
#3457 [17:58] <aetherian> (in vanilla)
#3458 [17:58] <Kaito> i've made forever burning forests
#3459 [17:58] <Kaito> those are fun
#3460 [17:58] <Utoxin> 1 stack of coal smelts 8 stacks of cobblestone. Haven't checked the math on wood, but I bet it's not that nice a ratio.
#3461 [17:59] <LatHans> my smp levels usually tends to be full of fires because of the lava located near the trees etc
#3462 [17:59] <aetherian> aww sh-
#3463 [18:00] <aetherian> spiders can climb. I am doomed.
#3464 [18:00] <Utoxin> aetherian: Put a lip around the top edge of the outside of your structure.
#3465 [18:00] <Utoxin> Or build with sand/sandstone.
#3466 [18:00] <fogwraith> Waitwhat... spiders climb?
#3467 [18:00] <Utoxin> Reportedly, they can't climb sand.
#3468 [18:00] <Kealper> Utoxin: 1:1 for wood
#3469 [18:00] <Utoxin> fogwraith: spiders can climb vertical faces now.
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#3471 [18:00] <fogwraith> :|
#3472 [18:01] <aetherian> oh god...
#3473 [18:01] <Utoxin> Kealper: Yeah.... i don't want to harvest 50 stacks of wood, thanks.
#3474 [18:01] <fogwraith> Well, that provides for some extra fun I suppose
#3475 [18:01] <Utoxin> Kealper: And that's a low estimate.
#3476 [18:01] <Kealper> lol
#3477 [18:01] <Utoxin> Kealper: I'm building a half-scale pyramid of giza. :)
#3478 [18:01] <aetherian> WHAT?
#3479 [18:01] <aetherian> make it full
#3480 [18:02] <Utoxin> aetherian: I'm not suicidal, just insane.
#3481 [18:02] <Kealper> i made one that was 129x129 at the base
#3482 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> is the pyramid less than 64 meters high?
#3483 [18:02] <Utoxin> Kealper: Mine is 127x127
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#3485 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> if not, you can't do full scale.
#3486 [18:02] <aetherian> is lapis lazuli about as rare as gold?
#3487 [18:02] <Utoxin> DopeGhoti: Actually, you can. Just just have to dig to bedrock. :)
#3488 [18:02] <Kealper> Utoxin: yeah, then i can tell you when it's done, it will look awesome as heck, is yours going to have a golden cap?
#3489 [18:03] <Utoxin> Kealper: Not sure yet. :) It's going to have windows though, once I decide where to put them. And blinking redstone circuitry accents. And a stargate inside. :)
#3490 [18:03] <Kealper> Utoxin: you just won 10 internets
#3491 [18:03] <aetherian> oh snap
#3492 [18:03] <aetherian> insta growing trees
#3493 [18:03] <Utoxin> DopeGhoti: Sea Level -> max height is 64.
#3494 [18:03] <Utoxin> DopeGhoti: Bedrok -> max height is 128
#3495 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> *facepalm* of course.
#3496 [18:04] <aetherian> :O
#3497 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> that said
#3498 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> is the pyramid less than 128 meters high?
#3499 [18:04] <Utoxin> DopeGhoti: Yes. I /could/ do a full scale. I don't have that much time on my hands though. :)
#3500 [18:04] <aetherian> sure ya do
#3501 [18:04] <Utoxin> DopeGhoti: Full scale would require at least 4 times as many resources.
#3502 [18:04] <aetherian> you're mining all things manually, right?
#3503 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> you say that like it's a bad thing :)
#3504 [18:05] <Utoxin> aetherian: Yep, with a few minor exceptions.
#3505 [18:05] <aetherian> NO EXCEPTIONS
#3506 [18:05] <Kealper> it's 138m tall
#3507 [18:05] <aetherian> >:
#3508 [18:06] <Utoxin> Kealper: Can't make a /true/ scale model, because the ratio isn't 1m -> 1m on height -> width
#3509 [18:06] <Utoxin> Kealper: You can make the base dimensions accurate though.
#3510 [18:06] <Utoxin> aetherian: Some stuff that I want to use for the stargate itself I can't /get/ on a SMP server.
#3511 [18:07] <Utoxin> aetherian: Like lightstone to embed into the inner edge of the stargate to illuminate the falling water. :)
#3512 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> Utoxin: sure you can. Just restart the server in hell_mode
#3513 [18:07] <Utoxin> DopeGhoti: My friends wouldn't like that.
#3514 [18:07] <aetherian> what real use is a dispenser, unless you like used to where you fill with stone and use it to get some stone...
#3515 [18:07] <aetherian> oh I know
#3516 [18:07] <aetherian> trading
#3517 [18:07] <aetherian> :O
#3518 [18:07] <Utoxin> aetherian: arrow traps.
#3519 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: minecart dispensers come to mind
#3520 [18:07] <aetherian> arrow traps?
#3521 [18:08] <Utoxin> aetherian: Fill it with arrows, hook it to a pressure plate. Step on the plate, get shot.
#3522 [18:08] <aetherian> all it does is make the item drop
#3523 [18:08] <aetherian> I thought
#3524 [18:08] <aetherian> like
#3525 [18:08] <Utoxin> aetherian: Not for arrows, snowballs, and eggs.
#3526 [18:08] <aetherian> ohh
#3527 [18:08] <aetherian> AWESOME
#3528 [18:08] <Utoxin> It shoots those 3 items.
#3529 [18:08] <aetherian> I'm using one to guard my smp server
#3530 [18:08] <aetherian> maybe...
#3531 [18:08] <aetherian> ooh
#3532 [18:08] <Utoxin> With a little circuitry, you can set up an arrow machinegun.
#3533 [18:09] <aetherian> I could rig others houses >:D
#3534 [18:09] <aetherian> on april 1.
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#3536 [18:09] <aetherian> :)
#3537 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> darn. a "Minecart dispenser" will only spit out minecart _items_, not actual carts :(
#3538 [18:09] <aetherian> too bad...
#3539 [18:09] <Shinkukage09> java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 64/128. There a way to fix this/get around it?
#3540 [18:09] <Kealper> yeah, i tried that DopeGhoti lol
#3541 [18:09] <Utoxin> Yeah. And a lava dispenser just shoots out a bucket.
#3542 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Shinkukage09 - Don't use hmod?
#3543 [18:09] <Shinkukage09> I tried that, ddidn't work
#3544 [18:10] <Shinkukage09> Basic server gives the exact same error
#3545 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> !recent
#3546 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Shinkukage09 - Connect to greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#3547 [18:10] <aetherian> that'd be cool if placed next to a track it would place it
#3548 [18:10] <aetherian> someone to hold notch at gunpoint and tell him to do it :)
#3549 [18:10] <Shinkukage09> What? And the server's up to date, just updated it.
#3550 [18:10] <aetherian> oh snap
#3551 [18:10] <aetherian> it can shoot through a block
#3552 [18:10] <Utoxin> aetherian: Yep.
#3553 [18:10] <aetherian> the bastard gun
#3554 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Shinkukage09 - Try connecting to greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#3555 [18:10] <Kealper> it's one bad mamajama lol
#3556 [18:11] <Shinkukage09> Is that IRC? What is that?
#3557 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> That's an SMP server
#3558 [18:11] <Kealper> Shinkukage09: put that as a minecraft server address to connect to
#3559 [18:11] <Shinkukage09> ...How do you connect to a server without the IP address? I didnt know that worked
#3560 [18:11] <Kealper> type it in just like you would the ip address
#3561 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> It resolves to an ip address
#3562 [18:11] <Shinkukage09> oh
#3563 [18:11] <Shinkukage09> Well, that worked
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#3565 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Then it's your server
#3566 [18:12] <Shinkukage09> I already KNOW it's my server
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#3568 [18:12] <Shinkukage09> Or rather, my internet. I want to know what's causing it
#3569 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Tell us how you're launching the server
#3570 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> Shinkukage09: regarding your question about how GV's server address worked, the Internet has this nigh-magical system called DNS...
#3571 [18:12] <Shinkukage09> Java version, doubleclicking the no_gui.bat one. Normal server, doubleclicking the MinecraftServer :\
#3572 [18:12] <crohakon> Hey, where do I download the new server? The website lists only the Alpha server.
#3573 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> no_gui.bat
#3574 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> There's your problem
#3575 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> You're using hmod, correct?
#3576 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> crohakon: website is mistaken; that's the current Beta.
#3577 [18:13] <Shinkukage09> Not my basic server.
#3578 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> What does the contents of no_gui.bat contain?
#3579 [18:13] <Shinkukage09> I don't know, I didn't make the file, nor check it
#3580 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Could you please open it up, and paste the contents of it here
#3581 [18:13] <Shinkukage09> No, I really can't. Different computers
#3582 [18:13] * DopeGhoti fears a 3KiB batchfile
#3582 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> (who just randomly launches a batch file, without knowing the contents, really)
#3583 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> Shinkukage09 apparently.
#3584 [18:14] <Shinkukage09> Like 99% of others, so sue me :\
#3585 [18:14] <crohakon> Than, it seems hmod is now broke with new update... as it will not start. I know this is not support for mods, but does anyone know if hmod has an update for this new release?
#3586 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Shinkukage09 - Please get the minecraft_server.jar
#3587 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> there will be no future hmod updates.
#3588 [18:14] <Kealper> crohakon: they do not
#3589 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> and launch it without ANYTHING else in the directory
#3590 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> The example on how to launch it is on the website
#3591 [18:14] <crohakon> So... any suggestions on what do use in replace of hmod that can do what hmod does?
#3592 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> crohakon - Nope
#3593 [18:15] <crohakon> Because without it, i'm not going to bother to run a public server. No protection = pain in ass and stress.
#3594 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> You may get lucky, and have somebody who still knows hmod, update it in a day or five.
#3595 [18:15] <Kealper> crohakon: keep an eye on http://bukkit.org
#3596 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> But bukkit is the way to go
#3597 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> and it isn't finished
#3598 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> crohakon: I reccomend the "Wait for the official API Mod" mod.
#3599 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> My vanilla server is happily grief free.
#3600 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> But officially, hmod is discontinued.
#3601 [18:16] <Shinkukage09> Why?
#3602 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=23340
#3603 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit will be superseding hMod. Once Bukkit is ready, hMod will no longer be updated. I no longer have an interest in Minecraft, so this change is for the best. The hMod forum won't be deleted though, so you can keep posting and such, if you really want. It won't be very moderated though, since there'll be no point in doing so.
#3604 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> Shinkukage09: becuse the 15-year-old "maintainer" of Hmod got distracted by Cataclysm.
#3605 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> As hey0's words
#3606 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> [citation needed]
#3607 [18:17] <crohakon> Anyway to revert back to the last build of the server and client so I can continue to work on my own projects? hehe
#3608 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> Client? No. Server? Hope you backed up the .jar.
#3609 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> If you can find somebody who hasn't updated yet, get them to zip up their /.minecraft, and send it over to you
#3610 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Then, modify your connection to disallow connections to minecraft's update server
#3611 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Either through a software firewall, or your HOSTS file
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#3613 [18:21] <crohakon> well, blah. I hope the update is worth it. And I hope bukkit is worth it. hMod+cuboid was extremely useful for keep grief... well... non-existent.
#3614 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> so is just not inviting asshats to your server.
#3615 [18:22] <aetherian> haha
#3616 [18:22] <aetherian> those server mods were always quite annoying
#3617 [18:23] <Kealper> crohakon: Bukkit is actually going to make plugins a main focus, and not just something added on after-the-fact
#3618 [18:23] <aetherian> no. you can't do that. "but I'm stuck in a damn hole!" too bad. no placing blocks. "but the guys shoved me in here"
#3619 [18:23] <aetherian> is thos emdos in a nutshell
#3620 [18:23] <aetherian> *those mods
#3621 [18:24] <Kealper> i actually used Cuboid to just protect my server's spawn point from creeper damage
#3622 [18:24] * fogwraith just disabled the creepers
#3622 [18:24] <crohakon> I used cuboid to disable creeper damage and peoples creations.
#3623 [18:24] <Kealper> well, creepers are fun, just not when they blow my pretty spawn apart
#3624 [18:25] <crohakon> creepers are complete rubbish... I stopped playing on several servers because I would end up spending more time repairing my stuff rather than building.
#3625 [18:25] <fogwraith> Creepers are just sneaky little shits
#3626 [18:25] <Kealper> and ok....mah server wrapper is done
#3627 [18:26] <fogwraith> Kealper: did you write it in the language which shall not be named? :P
#3628 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> COBOL?
#3629 [18:26] <Kealper> ofcourse lol
#3630 [18:26] <Shinkukage09> Well. That's not good. My server NEEDS the warp command...is there anything I can use in place of it?
#3631 [18:26] <fogwraith> Oh god ;P
#3632 [18:26] <Kealper> the one fogwraith was thinking of, not COBOL
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#3634 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> Shinkukage09: minecart tracks.
#3635 [18:26] <Kealper> something better than cobol!
#3636 [18:26] * fogwraith knows exactly which one Kealper uses
#3636 [18:27] <Kealper> fogwraith: :P
#3637 [18:27] <Shinkukage09> Those are slow and don't help. Would it kill you to give a helpful answer that's not already known?
#3638 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> LISP?
#3639 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> _boosted_ minecarts are hardly slow.
#3640 [18:27] <Shinkukage09> When you have a world that spans about over 50MB, yes. They are
#3641 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> my world is nearing 400MiB
#3642 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> and they're quite fast
#3643 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> you just need better routes.
#3644 [18:28] <Shinkukage09> Straight.
#3645 [18:28] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: +1
#3646 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> your description exhibits one-dimensional thinking.
#3647 [18:28] <aetherian> :O
#3648 [18:28] <Shinkukage09> Wait. Boosters. As in, the actualy minecarft item? Or just minecraft "boosters"
#3649 [18:28] <aetherian> how do you not get lost o_O
#3650 [18:29] <Kealper> i've got a cart system that can take me to my frozen base and back in about 10 min, and it'll take me over an hour to walk that distance
#3651 [18:29] <fogwraith> Flareguns and Davis Hasslehoff, aetherian
#3652 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> Yes, didn't you hear? Notch added NOS boosters to the powered carts.
#3653 [18:29] <fogwraith> David*
#3654 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> you fuel them with Redstone and Lapis.
#3655 [18:29] <aetherian> NOS boosters?
#3656 [18:29] <Shinkukage09> No, that I didn't hear
#3657 [18:29] <aetherian> lol fog
#3658 [18:29] <Kealper> fogwraith: XD
#3659 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> Sorry, NOx
#3660 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> or more accurately, NO
#3661 [18:30] <fogwraith> Herobrine and creepers ain't nothing compared to when you fire off a flare and Hasslehoff comes running to save your lost ass ;P
#3662 [18:30] <aetherian> we need like gps type things, like the compass, but we set where it points to
#3663 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: you have one, at least the first third of that:
#3664 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> press F3.
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#3668 [18:31] <Maximiliator> any1 know a good survival server that is up to date ?
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#3670 [18:32] <aetherian> dammit, this router sucks
#3671 [18:32] <aetherian> and we just bought it
#3672 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> apparently you can cook cacti now.
#3673 [18:32] <aetherian> :U
#3674 [18:32] <Con> eh?
#3675 [18:32] <aetherian> ?
#3676 [18:32] <Con> Cook cacti?
#3677 [18:32] <aetherian> wait what?
#3678 [18:32] <aetherian> um
#3679 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> you can take cacti
#3680 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> and cook them.
#3681 [18:32] <aetherian> sounds tasty
#3682 [18:33] <Con> cacti are juicy
#3683 [18:33] * DopeGhoti isn't exactly being unclear.
#3683 [18:33] <Maximiliator> hey
#3684 [18:33] <aetherian> yummm
#3685 [18:33] <aetherian> cooked cacti cake
#3686 [18:33] <Maximiliator> i m looking for a good survival server with monsters
#3687 [18:33] <Maximiliator> anyone ?
#3688 [18:33] <aetherian> is cunningly cute
#3689 [18:33] * GreyVulpine thinks DopeGhoti needs subtitles, can't understand him
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#3690 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> Man kann jetzt kochen Kakteen.
#3691 [18:34] <aetherian> what?
#3692 [18:34] <aetherian> wait what?
#3693 [18:34] <aetherian> I mean what?
#3694 [18:34] * DopeGhoti was subtitling for GreyVulpine.
#3694 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> aetherian - DopeGhoti just insulted your mom
#3695 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> and your entire lineage
#3696 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> 人們可以現炒仙人掌。
#3697 [18:35] <aetherian> according to some people
#3698 [18:35] <aetherian> if you go back far enough
#3699 [18:35] <aetherian> we have the same lineage
#3700 [18:35] <aetherian> oh no
#3701 [18:36] <aetherian> minecraft error :O
#3702 [18:36] <aetherian> Failed to launch
#3703 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> ويمكن للمرء الآن كوك الصبار.
#3704 [18:36] * DopeGhoti isn't sure of the last translation.
#3704 [18:36] <aetherian> Fatal error occured (4_: Unable to download <head>
#3705 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> That's what she said.
#3706 [18:36] <CornstarchPudding> oh no, can’t download my head
#3707 [18:36] <aetherian> Retrieving: minecraft.jar 465% @ 155.82 KB/sec
#3708 [18:36] <aetherian> help me
#3709 [18:37] <Shinkukage09> Hrm. Alright, fine. Do powered minecarts work on SMP?
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#3711 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#3712 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> They should
#3713 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> Boosters are faster though.
#3714 [18:37] <aetherian> help please?
#3715 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> NEVER!
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#3717 [18:37] <aetherian> fine.
#3718 [18:37] <Shinkukage09> Okay, maybe I'm doing something wrong. How do you do them?
#3719 [18:37] <Goli> hi can someone say me how i could update my hey0 server ?
#3720 [18:37] <CornstarchPudding> aetherian: 465%?
#3721 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Goli - You don't
#3722 [18:37] <aetherian> yes.
#3723 [18:37] <aetherian> 465%
#3724 [18:37] <aetherian> oh it worked this time
#3725 [18:37] <aetherian> nvm
#3726 [18:37] <Goli> its not possible?
#3727 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> hmod, last I saw, has been discontinued
#3728 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> Goli: Hey0's mod has been discontinued.
#3729 [18:37] <Goli> ok
#3730 [18:38] <Goli> so i have to set up a new server right?
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#3732 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3733 [18:38] <CornstarchPudding> Goli: hey0 is now hMod, however it hasn’t been updated for B1.2
#3734 [18:38] <Goli> k - could you advise me a plugin mod?
#3735 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> There are currently none available
#3736 [18:38] <Helmer> How do I save in Online? I have my server and have made an very big City. All my work was saved two days. And today its an hole diffrent map. All my work seams to be lost.
#3737 [18:38] <Goli> k
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#3740 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> Goli: the "Wait for the API" mod works with the current version.
#3741 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Helmer - Talk to your server admin
#3742 [18:39] <Goli> thx for the answers bb =)
#3743 [18:39] <Helmer> I am the admin
#3744 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Then either you deleted /world/ or imported/generated a new one
#3745 [18:39] <fogwraith> Om nom nom, coffee & csi miami, starting from season 1 at episode 1
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#3747 [18:39] <Helmer> I am sure I did not.
#3748 [18:40] <CornstarchPudding> MC might have gone crazy with the save
#3749 [18:40] <fogwraith> This is why we have backups
#3750 [18:40] <CornstarchPudding> Make a backup of the world, delete the original, get the server to regenerate the world and then place the backup directly onto the new world
#3751 [18:40] <Helmer> I just load the site and the City was gone.
#3752 [18:40] <CornstarchPudding> But a lot of the map will attempt to recreate itself
#3753 [18:40] <Helmer> How do I do that?
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#3755 [18:41] <CornstarchPudding> So you’ll have nonlinear chunks
#3756 [18:41] <Helmer> The save button wont apear also when I press esc.
#3757 [18:41] <Shinkukage09> Hrm. Powered minecarts are slow
#3758 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> Shinkukage09: They are, a bit, which is why I recommended boosters.
#3759 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> info for making them is on the wiki and fora.
#3760 [18:42] <Shinkukage09> I already have them made
#3761 [18:42] <Shinkukage09> Just don't like to work all that well
#3762 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> make them _better_ then.
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#3764 [18:43] <Shinkukage09> Not really a way to "make them _better_ then". They're glitchy, is all. Or buggy. Whichever
#3765 [18:43] <Helmer> What file shall I copy to back the file up?
#3766 [18:43] <Majjo> stupid n00b question alert.. How do I extract maps and so on from the exe server?
#3767 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> /world/ folder
#3768 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> Majjo: no extraciton needed; just back up the /world/ directory
#3769 [18:44] <crohakon> Anyone know of a decent server I can explore while I wait for this NFS back up of 30,000+ files?
#3770 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> that's your server's world, oddly enough
#3771 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> crohakon: I hear the server at 127.0.0.1 is pretty snazzy.
#3772 [18:44] <crohakon> Don't be an ass, dope.
#3773 [18:44] <Helmer> I made an unike Replika Germania.
#3774 [18:44] <Helmer> Just need to do it all over agan.
#3775 [18:44] <Shinkukage09> Don't think he knows how to not be one, crohakon. Just ignore it, I guess
#3776 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> I was aiming more for comedic than asinine. Apologies, crohakon.
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#3778 [18:45] <fogwraith> I feel for you, Ghoti ;P
#3779 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Gah, why aren't you vop yet
#3780 [18:46] <fogwraith> What? ;P
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#3782 [18:46] * GreyVulpine remedies that
#3782 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> salutations, Jguy! How can we be of assistance?
#3783 [18:46] <aetherian> hello jguy
#3784 [18:46] <Majjo> DopeGhoti:Stupid me.. missed the created folder on my desktop. All those icons! TNX!
#3785 [18:46] <Helmer> I did not got a Directory called World.
#3786 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> Majjo: cheers! \o
#3787 [18:46] <Jguy> Uhh, I've been playing Minecraft for quite a while, no help needed here. Just idling XD
#3788 [18:47] <Jguy> Thanks anyway XD
#3789 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Idle away. we don't bite, much.
#3790 [18:47] <Jguy> I know.
#3791 [18:47] <aetherian> kealper does.
#3792 [18:47] <fogwraith> At least not us old folk, teeth aren't cheap
#3793 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> don't I know it.
#3794 [18:48] <aetherian> ...old fogeys
#3795 [18:48] <Kealper> ^~,..,~^
#3796 [18:48] <fogwraith> ;P
#3797 [18:48] <Jguy> Well, actually, there is something thats been bugging me
#3798 [18:48] <aetherian> >.>
#3799 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> ..young whippersnappers.
#3800 [18:48] <Kealper> youngins
#3801 [18:48] * GreyVulpine stabs Kealper
#3801 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> That's my line
#3802 [18:48] <Helmer> Quite buggy that maps just disepair.
#3803 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> Jguy: fire away; just stay off the lawn.
#3804 [18:48] <aetherian> old coots
#3805 [18:48] <fogwraith> ;|
#3806 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> rabble-rousers.
#3807 [18:49] <Jguy> I want to use some redstone torches to make a bunch of lights (albeit dim, I just want them to provide a general overview of the room) on the floor, controlled by a flip switch. How? I've tried running the redstone under the floor but it doesn't seem to touch the torches
#3808 [18:49] <aetherian> jguy. state your problem.
#3809 [18:49] <Jguy> ^ read up.
#3810 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> He just did
#3811 [18:50] <Jguy> not really a problem, just a quesry.
#3812 [18:50] <Jguy> *query
#3813 [18:50] <fogwraith> I tried something similar once with flint & tinder
#3814 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> Jguy: and the underfloor wiring is getting power from the switch, yes?
#3815 [18:50] <Jguy> damn 's' key always getting in the way
#3816 [18:50] <Jguy> Yes.
#3817 [18:50] <Jguy> I checked that
#3818 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> You're not creating a loop of torches, right?
#3819 [18:51] <aetherian> damn lights, one burns out and you gotta check them all
#3820 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> I've only done one such light in the past, and I ended up with a torch under the block with the torch on it. Have your wire control the lower torch.
#3821 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> (or in your case, torches)
#3822 [18:51] <Jguy> It does glow when I flip the switch, but the torch right above the redstone stays lit
#3823 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Jguy - Got a server this is on?
#3824 [18:51] <Jguy> no, it's SSP
#3825 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> Right; let me pastebin a side-view real quick
#3826 [18:52] <Jguy> Oh, you know what I did, I think I know...just a sec, lemme load up MC
#3827 [18:52] <Jguy> Oh what is this
#3828 [18:52] <Jguy> Friday update on a Thursday?
#3829 [18:52] <Jguy> i like.
#3830 [18:53] <Helmer> This is the files I got and no of them are world map like you said. admins, banned, banned-ip, externalurl, players, README, server, server, server_level, start server.
#3831 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> That's... a classic server
#3832 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> look for level.dat
#3833 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> Jguy: very crude, but: http://pastebin.com/f2vJ9dn4
#3834 [18:53] <Helmer> Classic server? Is there a better one to use were I can save in the game?
#3835 [18:53] <aetherian> what the hell, these trees are part normal and part different
#3836 [18:53] <aetherian> must be the texture packs...
#3837 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> aetherian - It is
#3838 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> I made that mistake as well
#3839 [18:54] <Jguy> Hm, I'll give that a shot too DopeGhoti , thanks.
#3840 [18:54] <aetherian> nonono
#3841 [18:54] <aetherian> like
#3842 [18:54] <aetherian> I used some packs
#3843 [18:54] <aetherian> went back to regular
#3844 [18:54] <aetherian> and it became a mixture of the two
#3845 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#3846 [18:54] <aetherian> item to item
#3847 [18:54] <aetherian> like, dooor from the texture pack, dirt from the classic
#3848 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: jar injection texpacks, or regular ones?
#3849 [18:55] <aetherian> ones you put the zip in the folder
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#3851 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> Hrm. Interesting.
#3852 [18:55] <Helmer> Bat file was crazy coded. I was not able to understand.
#3853 [18:55] <aetherian> ooh
#3854 [18:55] <aetherian> just saw something
#3855 [18:55] <aetherian> now I gotta sing
#3856 [18:56] <aetherian> baa baa black sheep, have you any wool. yes sir, yes sir, three bags full...
#3857 [18:56] <NinjaKirby> "three blocks full"?
#3858 [18:57] * aetherian facepalms
#3858 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: now you have to make it played in musicblocks.
#3859 [18:57] * NinjaKirby runs away crying
#3859 [18:57] <aetherian> har har
#3860 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> preferably wtih a good drum track.
#3861 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> oh god squid
#3862 [18:58] <aetherian> neutral
#3863 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Ooo neat
#3864 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> Black ink :D
#3865 [18:59] <aetherian> ssssboom
#3866 [18:59] <xales> hey, you guys remember that troll from last night?
#3867 [18:59] <aetherian> nice time for me to lag
#3868 [18:59] <xales> hes in #minecraft now
#3869 [19:00] <aetherian> which one
#3870 [19:00] <fogwraith> Whowhat?
#3871 [19:00] <xales> vertoc
#3872 [19:00] <aetherian> the bad grammers one?
#3873 [19:00] <xales> the one who couldn't spell? no, hes network banned
#3874 [19:00] <aetherian> whoa'
#3875 [19:00] * fogwraith looks, just because
#3875 [19:00] <xales> the one with fake problems
#3876 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> Sparky McNoRAM?
#3877 [19:00] <Helmer> Why cant Generate new level, Save level, Load level?
#3878 [19:00] <xales> yeah DopeGhoti
#3879 [19:00] <xales> I think so
#3880 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> quiix or somesuch?
#3881 [19:00] <aetherian> us loves grammers
#3882 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Oh, him
#3883 [19:01] <Solvius> the one with to much ram ?
#3884 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> I fart in his general direction
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#3886 [19:01] <xales> actually, no not mr ram
#3887 [19:01] <Kealper> lol grey
#3888 [19:01] <Solvius> oh, then I missed that
#3889 [19:01] <fogwraith> ... too much ram?
#3890 [19:01] <Kealper> impossible
#3891 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Don't ask fogwraith.
#3892 [19:02] <fogwraith> I'm here, might as well tell the story ;)
#3893 [19:02] <Psycho-tan> Hey, guys, I've got a question
#3894 [19:02] <Psycho-tan> So, ever since I installed my new graphics card, I've had everything outlined
#3895 [19:02] <Psycho-tan> Anyone know why?
#3896 [19:02] <Helmer> Is it not posseble to do this now when they have not realest the real game version?
#3897 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Guy got on, said he's got a computer just like his bro, he can't run minecraft, while his bro can. Said his computer can handle it, when it only had a gig of ram, running win 7.
#3898 [19:03] <fogwraith> Dear lord
#3899 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> that woudn't have been so bad
#3900 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Didn't know why he couldn't run minecraft, even said that running the browser version was different, becuase it was over the internet, and not his computer running it
#3901 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> but ^that
#3902 [19:03] <fogwraith> :|
#3903 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> and also came back later "Now I'm running it with only 512 RAM and it's running GREAT! See? You're wrong!"
#3904 [19:04] * GreyVulpine shudders
#3904 [19:04] <Helmer> Is it only my orginal version thats not working properly?
#3905 [19:04] <Psycho-tan> I'll take that as a no, no one wants to help me =/
#3906 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> Psycho-tan: 'outlined" how?
#3907 [19:04] <Psycho-tan> Ah
#3908 [19:04] <Psycho-tan> Cool
#3909 [19:04] <Psycho-tan> http://i55.tinypic.com/e6op34.jpg
#3910 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, I'm off for a few hours.
#3911 [19:04] <Psycho-tan> Here's a picture
#3912 [19:04] <Helmer> I cant Generate new level, Save level, Load level. in the server online.
#3913 [19:04] <Psycho-tan> All of the individual blocks are outlined
#3914 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> hmm, that is kind of unusial
#3915 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> and also unusual
#3916 [19:05] <Psycho-tan> I know
#3917 [19:05] <Psycho-tan> Heh
#3918 [19:05] <Psycho-tan> I've looked around, and couldn't find anything on it
#3919 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> I presume you've got the latest and greatest drivers?
#3920 [19:05] <Psycho-tan> Yeah
#3921 [19:05] <fogwraith> I had that before, but it was just world related, strangely enough
#3922 [19:06] <Psycho-tan> I started a new world
#3923 [19:06] <Psycho-tan> Same thing
#3924 [19:06] <Helmer> Looks like you need to putt your grafic card in the ouven.
#3925 [19:06] <xales> Grey, the one I was talking about is the one who later "apologized" because his "friend" was the one talking to us
#3926 [19:06] <xales> :/
#3927 [19:06] <fogwraith> Try changing the advanced settings for your graphics card, Psycho-tan
#3928 [19:06] <xales> while he was in the "bathroom" for over 45 minutes
#3929 [19:07] <Psycho-tan> Looks like you need to put your head in a microwave, Helmer
#3930 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> I know xales
#3931 [19:07] <fogwraith> Fiddle with the OpenGL settings
#3932 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, I'm off for a few hours
#3933 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Laters
#3934 [19:07] <fogwraith> Later Grey
#3935 [19:07] <Psycho-tan> See ya
#3936 [19:07] <Helmer> That coulor there tells me that the mettal needs to heat up to be smothed out. Is it only this game thats hapen in or maybe other games whit alot of objects?
#3937 [19:08] <Psycho-tan> That color is what happens when you mix a large blue object and a lot of while lines
#3938 [19:08] <Psycho-tan> And yes, it only happens in minecraft
#3939 [19:08] <Helmer> Its not that on my game.
#3940 [19:09] <xales> Psycho-tan, Helmer is being a douche. You don't actually microwave your computer, obviously. Helmer, stop. ONLY warning
#3941 [19:09] <Helmer> Not in a microwave.
#3942 [19:09] <fogwraith> Baking the graphics card in an oven is usually only required with cracked solder joints, if I remember correctly
#3943 [19:09] <Helmer> I telled Oven!
#3944 [19:09] <Psycho-tan> Actually, he was suggesting I throw my graphic's card, but
#3945 [19:10] <fogwraith> So that is not the case here
#3946 [19:10] <Helmer> Low heat like 60
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#3948 [19:10] <Helmer> Workt for me.
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#3950 [19:10] * xales kicked Helmer from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: I asked you to stop)
#3951 [19:11] <aetherian> dammit
#3952 [19:11] <aetherian> a skeleton hits me into a zombie who hits me into a creeper
#3953 [19:11] <aetherian> I didn't know the ai was that good
#3954 [19:11] <JasonZero> Hi, I host a server on my wifi network and I can't access my server, probably because it needs to be updated, how do I do so?
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#3956 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> Psycho-tan: I'd try going into your video card settings
#3957 [19:11] <fogwraith> Anyhow, Psycho-tan, what graphics card did you get, and did you install the drivers that came on the CD or download the latest ones?
#3958 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> and try turning off AA, AF, and other similar bells and whistles
#3959 [19:11] <Psycho-tan> I can't find anything on OpenGL on my thing
#3960 [19:11] <Kealper> !server
#3961 [19:11] <xales> JasonZero: what error do you get
#3962 [19:11] <JasonZero> ones second
#3963 [19:12] <Helmer> So you kicking me while I was treaten by that psycho-tan that he will putt my head in a microwawe.
#3964 [19:12] <Psycho-tan> I didn't say that
#3965 [19:12] <Psycho-tan> I suggested you do it yourself
#3966 [19:12] <Helmer> Read what you said. Also I have never speakt of a microwave beffor you told that.
#3967 [19:12] <Helmer> Rude person.
#3968 [19:12] <aetherian> !ping
#3969 [19:12] <crickets> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.341 Seconds.
#3970 [19:13] <fogwraith> !ping
#3971 [19:13] <crickets> fogwraith Your Ping time was 0.22 Seconds.
#3972 [19:13] <aetherian> crickets o_O
#3973 [19:13] <fogwraith> \o/
#3974 [19:13] <JasonZero> Connection Lost: Internal Exception: Java.io.utfdataformatexception: malformed input around byte 3
#3975 [19:13] <JasonZero> that's what appears for all my friends too
#3976 [19:13] <Psycho-tan> As for the graphics card I got, http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4111742&Sku=E145-9504
#3977 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> JasonZero: mod on the server?
#3978 [19:13] <Psycho-tan> And I downloaded the latest ones
#3979 [19:13] <JasonZero> no mods
#3980 [19:14] <JasonZero> it worked fine last night and today I update it and have issues...
#3981 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> Psycho-tan: any change after disabling AA AF &c?
#3982 [19:14] <Psycho-tan> Define AA and AD
#3983 [19:14] <crohakon> Jason, server needs to be updated.
#3984 [19:14] <Psycho-tan> AF*
#3985 [19:14] <JasonZero> how do I update?
#3986 [19:14] <Helmer> Is any one capable to tell my why do not the game are able to be Generate new level, Save level, Load level online?
#3987 [19:14] <crohakon> Download the new file
#3988 [19:15] <xales> Helmer: are you playing beta?
#3989 [19:15] <xales> or classic
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#3991 [19:15] <Helmer> I bught this game like many other people.
#3992 [19:15] <JasonZero> so just redownload the server.exe file from the site?
#3993 [19:16] <xales> Helmer: what is your username?
#3994 [19:16] <Helmer> GeneralHelmer
#3995 [19:16] <fogwraith> !paid GeneralHelmer
#3996 [19:16] <ssen> rape
#3997 [19:16] <ssen> OH SNAP
#3998 [19:16] <ssen> YES
#3999 [19:16] <ssen> I can finally talk!
#4000 [19:17] <ssen> Sorry about that rape bit.
#4001 [19:17] <Helmer> What? did you paid me?
#4002 [19:17] <aetherian> heya LG
#4003 [19:17] <ssen> Can you see this?
#4004 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> No, we can't.
#4005 [19:17] <xales> Helmer: what is the problem exactly?
#4006 [19:17] <ssen> :D
#4007 [19:17] <ssen> Oh yes.
#4008 [19:17] <ssen> Massive success.
#4009 [19:17] <ssen> Fffffffffffffff, I still can't talk on #minecraft.
#4010 [19:17] <Helmer> I cant Generate new level, Save level, Load level?
#4011 [19:17] <ssen> My nick isn't registered, and Esper is taking too long to send me the verification email.
#4012 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> ssen: once you're verified, you'll be able to talk in #minecraft.
#4013 [19:18] <ssen> I registered it six hours ago :(
#4014 [19:18] <ssen> I still haven't gotten that email.
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#4016 [19:18] <Helmer> Some how the first map I did was saved in two days butt still I was not able to Generate new level, Save level, Load level?
#4017 [19:18] <xales> Helmer: Why not?
#4018 [19:18] <JZero> still not working...
#4019 [19:19] <JZero> this is JasonZero btw, I got booted for some reason
#4020 [19:19] <Helmer> Now today after playing 15 hours the CIty is gone and a new map is there.
#4021 [19:19] <Jguy> Has anyone tested the explosion resistance of Sandstone yet?
#4022 [19:20] <Jguy> I don't see it on the wiki
#4023 [19:20] <Jguy> yet
#4024 [19:20] <Cial> Jguy, i would have to guess the same as sand
#4025 [19:20] <Jguy> I hope not :(
#4026 [19:20] <xales> Helmer: I'm sorry, I don't really understand the issue
#4027 [19:20] <xales> Helmer: Do you see an error?
#4028 [19:20] <Helmer> I pressing Esc now and I cant Generate new level, Save level, Load level in the game.
#4029 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> aside: dye sheep, not wool. 3x the blocks for the dye usage.
#4030 [19:20] <Jguy> I'll go explodinate some TNT and see what happens, yay for having a room encased in Obsidian
#4031 [19:21] <JZero> still can't get my server to work DopeGhoti
#4032 [19:21] <xales> Helmer: close the game and open it again?
#4033 [19:21] <Helmer> I playing in the browser
#4034 [19:21] <Helmer> Do not work. So i need to open and close the Server and the broweser?
#4035 [19:22] <xales> Are you playing on a server?
#4036 [19:22] <Helmer> I am playing in a server I greated.
#4037 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> Helmer: Classic server or a Beta server?
#4038 [19:23] <Helmer> How can I tell?
#4039 [19:23] <Helmer> I got if from Minecraft.net
#4040 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> What is the file you're running to start it
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#4042 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> If it's start server.bat, it's classic
#4043 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> If it's minecraft_server.jar or .exe, it's beta
#4044 [19:24] <Helmer> C:\windows\system32\cmd.exe
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#4046 [19:24] <Helmer> start server
#4047 [19:24] <Helmer> That is the name.
#4048 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Then it's classic
#4049 [19:25] <Helmer> Ms dose
#4050 [19:25] <JZero> I'm running .exe
#4051 [19:25] <Helmer> Is it posseble to fix that issue?
#4052 [19:26] <JZero> ok so to fix my mulitplayer issue
#4053 [19:26] <JZero> I have to update Server.exe file?
#4054 [19:26] <JZero> I update it by downloading the old file?
#4055 [19:26] <fogwraith> Update and try again
#4056 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> !server
#4057 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> That server is replaced on the server when the new versions are released.
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#4059 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> wow, that could have been phrased less confusingly. Go me.
#4060 [19:27] <Helmer> Shall I download that one DopeGhti?
#4061 [19:27] <JZero> I tried that and it endlessly loads and says error
#4062 [19:27] <Taco> Hello all
#4063 [19:27] <JZero> I can't remember how I fixed that the first time around
#4064 [19:27] * aetherian eats the newcomer
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#4065 [19:28] <aetherian> om nom nom
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#4067 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> JZero: what exact error message?
#4068 [19:29] <aetherian> wtf is with no name scripts?
#4069 [19:29] <Taco> I am having poor framerate since the new update, is there anything i can do to run it a little smoother besides >Fast or Reduce Fog?
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#4071 [19:29] <JZero> the one about internal exception byte 3
#4072 [19:29] <Helmer> Cant you fix the problem now when you know I have a classic server DopeGhti?
#4073 [19:30] <Taco> Or should i wait for a new update?
#4074 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> Helmer: Sorry, I've no experience wtih Classic servers.
#4075 [19:30] <JZero> nevermind it just started working XD
#4076 [19:30] <aetherian> my dad's probably ticked at his internet, I'm downloading big filed
#4077 [19:30] <aetherian> hehehe
#4078 [19:30] <aetherian> internet is so laggy
#4079 [19:30] <JZero> thanks for the help, I hope I didn't come off as a jerk at anypoint, I'm real tired from work
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#4081 [19:30] <Helmer> I askt beffor ant people was able to do Generate new level, Save level, Load level when they have bought the game.
#4082 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> no prob, JZ. Glad you're up and running
#4083 [19:31] <slimer> is it broken for anyone else?
#4084 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> slimer: define 'it'.
#4085 [19:31] <Helmer> When they pressed ESC in the game when they own the server.
#4086 [19:31] <slimer> minecraft
#4087 [19:31] <xales> slimer: no
#4088 [19:31] <Kealper> works fine for me
#4089 [19:31] <Helmer> Really?
#4090 [19:32] <slimer> i get "Failed to connect to the server. Connection refused: connect"
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#4092 [19:32] <Helmer> What Server did you downloaded Kealper?
#4093 [19:32] <Kealper> !server
#4094 [19:32] <Kealper> that one
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#4096 [19:32] <xales> slimer: then you are connecting to a server that is not running
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#4098 [19:32] <slimer> oh
#4099 [19:32] <JZero> Woo! I didn't lose my Oceanside Manor or the Oceanside Hotel :D
#4100 [19:33] <ssen> * xales sets ban on *!*@c-24-22-247-181.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
#4101 [19:33] <ssen> Who's that?
#4102 [19:33] <xales> You do not want to know
#4103 [19:33] <JZero> that house took me a week to complete and gather the supplies to build it
#4104 [19:33] <aetherian> we do, xales
#4105 [19:33] <xales> Probably either the worst troll or most retarded idiot I've ever seen
#4106 [19:33] <xales> I should have banned him last night
#4107 [19:33] <Kealper> lol
#4108 [19:34] <xales> Kealper: you remember how he came back on and "apologized"
#4109 [19:34] <Kealper> OH
#4110 [19:34] <Kealper> yea i remember that hostname
#4111 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#4112 [19:34] <slimer> anybody know of a good server?
#4113 [19:34] <Kealper> stupid troll
#4114 [19:34] <xales> slimer: smp.shadow-craft.net
#4115 [19:34] <xales> Kealper: he said in #minecraft he was "in the bathroom" for over an hour while his friend talked to us
#4116 [19:35] <xales> and pretended to have a different problem like a shithead
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#4118 [19:35] <Helmer> I got the hole Center of Germania in two dats and all lost. It was a compleat replica from a model.
#4119 [19:35] <Kealper> what a failtroll
#4120 [19:35] * Shadow386 trolls xales with a toothbrush
#4120 [19:36] <slimer> xales: I landed in the middle of nowhere
#4121 [19:36] <slimer> lol
#4122 [19:36] * Kealper is having fun making colored sheep on his server
#4122 [19:36] <xales> slimer: eh, I think that server is down too like most of em
#4123 [19:36] <xales> Kealper: IP? i wanna have some fun :O
#4124 [19:36] <Kealper> mc.kealper.com
#4125 [19:37] <Shadow386> xales my server is up?
#4126 [19:37] <slimer> i want a good server with a city and everything
#4127 [19:37] <Shadow386> oh
#4128 [19:37] <Shadow386> then come back when mods are updated xD
#4129 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> slimer: better start building then
#4130 [19:37] <Shadow386> we are on a temp map
#4131 [19:37] <Helmer> By reainstaling the Server you sent http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft_Server.exe will let me do : Generate new level, Save level, Load level?
#4132 [19:37] <Shadow386> dont wanna risk issues :P
#4133 [19:37] <xales> slimer: minestatus.net
#4134 [19:37] <slimer> lol
#4135 [19:37] <Helmer> When I press Esc in the game?
#4136 [19:38] <xales> Helmer: No servers do that
#4137 [19:38] <Helmer> Do it atomatly chance maps to ?
#4138 [19:38] <Shadow386> that would be creative single player
#4139 [19:38] <Helmer> Dame it was alot of work inside. :(
#4140 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> Ich vermute, Sie sprechen Deutsch. Nur der Classic-Server hat diese Optionen. Die aktuelle Beta-Server nicht.
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#4142 [19:39] <Helmer> English speaker.
#4143 [19:39] <Valium> ffs
#4144 [19:39] <Helmer> Butt can see that you saying it will not work in the actual beta server?
#4145 [19:40] <Valium> wouldnt let me change nick
#4146 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> The Beta server generates its world in real-time as it's explored. There are no "world types" as there were in Classic.
#4147 [19:40] <xales> !reinstall
#4148 [19:41] <aetherian> brb
#4149 [19:41] <Helmer> I just like to stick to one world so if I close the computer the Capital I built will still be there so I do not need to reastart everytime.
#4150 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> Helmer: The current server saves constantly in real-time.
#4151 [19:41] <xales> Helmer: If you bought the game, play Beta. Not Classic. Beta does this
#4152 [19:42] <Helmer> Were can I get Classic?
#4153 [19:42] <Helmer> Thanks!
#4154 [19:42] <Helmer> :)
#4155 [19:42] <Helmer> I ment Beta.
#4156 [19:42] <xales> Uhm, you bought it right?
#4157 [19:42] <Shadow386> http://minecraft.net
#4158 [19:42] <Helmer> I did.
#4159 [19:43] <xales> !client
#4160 [19:43] <Helmer> That the file I shall download?
#4161 [19:43] <Shadow386> you should just link it to minecraft.net/downloads.jsp or whatever it is
#4162 [19:43] <xales> Shadow386: You would be surprised how much difficulty people have even getting it from there
#4163 [19:44] <Shadow386> xales good point
#4164 [19:44] <Shadow386> there are WAY too many....not bright people who try to play games
#4165 [19:44] <xales> this one in particular
#4166 [19:44] <Shadow386> that shouldnt even be allowed on the computer to play solitaire
#4167 [19:44] <Shadow386> >_>
#4168 [19:44] <xales> especially when they try to run a server on their home computer
#4169 [19:44] <Helmer> I am not hacker sir! :)
#4170 [19:44] <Shadow386> ...hacket
#4171 [19:44] <Shadow386> hacker*?
#4172 [19:44] <Helmer> Not yet!
#4173 [19:44] <Shadow386> im lost, how did this come up?
#4174 [19:45] <xales> Helmer: you just download the game and open it, and log in :/
#4175 [19:45] * Kealper puts on his steel-toed boots
#4175 [19:45] <Helmer> Then press multiplay in the game?
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#4177 [19:45] <Shadow386> I am hacker, hear me roar!
#4178 [19:45] * Shadow386 hack hack hack hack
#4178 [19:45] <Helmer> Not in the browser?
#4179 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> I'm a hacker, hear me chop!
#4180 [19:45] * Shadow386 coughs up furball
#4180 [19:45] <Helmer> I see.
#4181 [19:46] <xales> Helmer: No. Only multiplayer if you want to play with others. Singleplayer has saving too
#4182 [19:46] * Shadow386 saves xales' life from the wall climbing spiders
#4182 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> Indeed; for Multiplayer you have to have a server to go to.
#4183 [19:46] <Helmer> I only seeing a place were to type in one IP nummber and not my server.
#4184 [19:46] * Shadow386 advertises my server everywhere
#4184 [19:47] <Helmer> I got no problem to host servers in the game Blitzkrige
#4185 [19:47] <Shadow386> Helmer if its a local server, it has to be localhost or 127.0.0.1
#4186 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> Helmer: You are, I all seriousness, in _no_ condition to host a server if it's taken you this long to walk you though installing the client.
#4187 [19:47] <Shadow386> same house, different pc, 192.168.1.whateverpcitis
#4188 [19:47] <xales> Helmer: Do not play Multiplayer. Play Singleplayer
#4189 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: unless it's 10.x.x.x. Or 192.168.0.x.x. or 169.254.x.x.
#4190 [19:48] <Helmer> Instaling was only pressing the .EXE
#4191 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> or any of the other 253 subnets of 192.168.0.0/16
#4192 [19:48] * Shadow386 uses ip 0.0.0.0 and connects to a trippy server
#4192 [19:48] <Helmer> I thinkt I have installed around 200 games.
#4193 [19:48] <Shadow386> OH GOD FLYING CREEPERS
#4194 [19:48] <xales> Helmer: Let me help you. Open the .EXE. Log in. Click Singleplayer. Click the first button.
#4195 [19:48] <Shadow386> xales too hard
#4196 [19:49] <Shadow386> need 100 page manual
#4197 [19:49] <xales> If you can't figure out how to do that, you might as well just leave
#4198 [19:49] <Helmer> You dont understand. I have some people that want to play whit me multiblayer.
#4199 [19:49] <Helmer> Thats why I bought it.
#4200 [19:49] * Kealper laces his boots extra tight, as it would be a shame to lose one after a swift kick
#4200 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> Helmer: find a server you like. Share the address with your friends. Play on that server.
#4201 [19:49] <Shadow386> then go to servers.minecraftforum.net and find a server to play on
#4202 [19:49] <Helmer> Or not there is alot of crackt games.
#4203 [19:49] <xales> Helmer: go to servers.minecraftforum.net and choose a server to play on with your friends
#4204 [19:50] <Shadow386> hey :<
#4205 [19:50] <Shadow386> i said that
#4206 [19:50] <Shadow386> THIEF
#4207 [19:50] <xales> nou
#4208 [19:50] <fogwraith> Luls
#4209 [19:50] <Helmer> Will I be able to Generate new level, Save level, Load level?
#4210 [19:50] <Shadow386> fogwraith!
#4211 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> For someone who claims to be a native English speaker, you have a pretty poor graps on its basic syntax.
#4212 [19:50] <Shadow386> long time no see
#4213 [19:50] <Shadow386> Helmer no
#4214 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> Helmer: not on someone else's server, no.
#4215 [19:50] <Shadow386> that's ONLY creative
#4216 [19:50] <Helmer> Thats what I want to acive.
#4217 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> Those options _DO NOT EXIST_ on current servers.
#4218 [19:50] <fogwraith> It certainly has been, Shadow386 ;)
#4219 [19:50] <xales> Helmer: You can't do that
#4220 [19:50] <xales> it no longer exists
#4221 [19:50] <Shadow386> then go play creative servers
#4222 [19:50] <Shadow386> er single player
#4223 [19:51] <Helmer> :)
#4224 [19:51] <Shadow386> fogwraith wro isnt going so well D:
#4225 [19:51] <Helmer> THen I might askt this instent.
#4226 [19:51] <Shadow386> but itll be better soon
#4227 [19:51] <fogwraith> Shadow386: I've been out of the loop ;P
#4228 [19:51] <Shadow386> ;D
#4229 [19:51] <Helmer> What file do I copy to back up an map?
#4230 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> the world1/ directory.
#4231 [19:51] <xales> Helmer: You claim to be a native English speaker, stop lapsing back into broken English please
#4232 [19:51] <Shadow386> dedi got $500 donation for 6 months ;3
#4233 [19:51] <fogwraith> ;O
#4234 [19:51] <xales> Shadow386: I saw that, lucky D:
#4235 [19:51] <Helmer> If the game randomly gives me an new map every time I log in.
#4236 [19:52] <Shadow386> Helmer %appdata%/.minecraft/worlds
#4237 [19:52] <xales> Helmer: Classic does this. Beta does not
#4238 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> you are officially making things up
#4239 [19:52] <xales> ^
#4240 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> or you're clicking 'delete world'
#4241 [19:52] <Helmer> World1 :) There is not sutch map.
#4242 [19:52] <Shadow386> Helmer %appdata%/.minecraft/saves
#4243 [19:52] <Shadow386> typo
#4244 [19:52] <Shadow386> :x
#4245 [19:52] <xales> Helmer: Here is the solution
#4246 [19:52] <Kealper> Helmer: your presence in this channel is no longer wanted, please leave.
#4247 [19:52] <Helmer> I just got a file that was 227k
#4248 [19:52] <xales> go to http://minecraft.net/play.jsp
#4249 [19:52] <xales> That is the solution to your problem, have a nice day
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#4251 [19:53] <Shadow386> Helmer you cant use creative maps on beta
#4252 [19:54] <Helmer> :( So no one is able to save there game online?
#4253 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> you can't use diesel fuel in a regularly fueled car; you can't use rubbing alcohol in place of wine, and you cannot use Creative maps on Beta servers.
#4254 [19:54] <Shadow386> ...
#4255 [19:54] <Shadow386> Helmer, go play creative mode for a few months, then start playing beta
#4256 [19:54] <Shadow386> SINGLE PLAYER
#4257 [19:54] <Shadow386> then you'll understand stuff
#4258 [19:54] <xales> Helmer: No, you can not save your game unless you play SINGLE PLAYER
#4259 [19:54] <KillSpammer> Beep
#4260 [19:54] <Shadow386> also, read the entire minecraftwiki at http://minecraftwiki.net
#4261 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> The whole thing.
#4262 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> Every page.
#4263 [19:55] <KillSpammer> Xales...
#4264 [19:55] <Helmer> I seen many servers that load and its all there the next day.
#4265 [19:55] <KillSpammer> "Boop" already
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#4268 [19:56] <xales> Actually, this one never gets old
#4269 [19:56] <Shadow386> Helmer again, go read the minecraftwiki at http://minecraftwiki.net
#4270 [19:56] * xales kicked Helmer from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: You should have scrolled all the way to the bottom before clicking 'Agree')
#4271 [19:56] <xales> I am WINRAR
#4272 [19:56] <zoey2070> okay, so I wanna run a server but I can't seem to find the server stuff on the website lol. Where's it at?
#4273 [19:56] <xales> zoey2070: Classic or beta?
#4274 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> xales: watch you.. decompress?
#4275 [19:56] <zoey2070> Beta.
#4276 [19:56] <Shadow386> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFuck yeah
#4277 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> !server
#4278 [19:56] <KillSpammer> Wtf?
#4279 [19:56] <KillSpammer> Why did hyou kill him?
#4280 [19:56] <zoey2070> Thank you. :D
#4281 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> zoey2070: ^
#4282 [19:56] <xales> DopeGhoti: what?
#4283 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> quite welcome.
#4284 [19:57] <xales> KillSpammer: I'm not an oper, I can't kill :P
#4285 [19:57] <xales> that was a kick
#4286 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> ..?
#4287 [19:57] <KillSpammer> Oh yeah...
#4288 [19:57] <KillSpammer> But still
#4289 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> oh, him
#4290 [19:57] <KillSpammer> Why?
#4291 [19:57] * DopeGhoti hugs his ignorelist
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#4292 [19:57] <Shadow386> He be trollin
#4293 [19:57] <fogwraith> Oh for the love of... Blizzaaaaaaaaaaaard *shakes fist*
#4294 [19:57] <Shadow386> we hatin
#4295 [19:57] <xales> Given how many people have been having "problems" lately, his lapsing into bad English, repetitive questioning
#4296 [19:58] <xales> he was a troll or unbelievably retarded
#4297 [19:58] * Shadow386 trolls fogwraith xales and DopeGhoti
#4297 [19:58] <fogwraith> xales: he was from Sweden, and probably not too old ;P
#4298 [19:58] <xales> fogwraith: He said he was a native English speaker, and he spoke it fine for a minute
#4299 [19:58] <Kealper> being swedish is no excuse
#4300 [19:58] <KillSpammer> Now, Xales say Boop.
#4301 [19:58] <xales> No
#4302 [19:58] <Shadow386> fogwraith: 16 seems to be too young now >_>
#4303 [19:58] <fogwraith> Shit, 20 is young
#4304 [19:58] <Shadow386> xales: Beep!
#4305 [19:58] <xales> Shadow386: nou
#4306 [19:58] <KillSpammer> NO!
#4307 [19:58] <KillSpammer> Beep is mine!
#4308 [19:59] <Kealper> fogwraith: guess i'm young then? lol
#4309 [19:59] <Shadow386> fogwraith but I'm 18 and I know 2000x more things then most 30 year olds :x
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#4311 [19:59] <fogwraith> :P
#4312 [19:59] <Blannk> I've tried joining a server I'm hosting and I can't get it to work. Keep getting random errors. Either going internal exception bad byte or bad packet. Always a different number. I've followed all the instructions on the wiki and in the forum server help topics. Help?
#4313 [19:59] <fogwraith> Darn youngins
#4314 [19:59] * Shadow386 steals KillSpammer's beep
#4314 [19:59] * KillSpammer commits suicide
#4314 [19:59] <Shadow386> fogwraith after all, I got RO runnin on CentOS ;D
#4315 [19:59] <KillSpammer> Blannk,
#4316 [19:59] <Kealper> Blannk: any mods running?
#4317 [19:59] <Shadow386> virtually no issues so far
#4318 [19:59] <KillSpammer> You sure you got the latest server software?
#4319 [19:59] <fogwraith> Nice, nice
#4320 [19:59] <xales> Blannk: Do you have the latest server installed?
#4321 [19:59] <Blannk> Just downloaded it off the minecraft download page
#4322 [20:00] <KillSpammer> I just said that
#4323 [20:00] <KillSpammer> How long ago?
#4324 [20:00] <Blannk> server and client
#4325 [20:00] <Blannk> 15 minutes a go
#4326 [20:00] <KillSpammer> The server
#4327 [20:00] <KillSpammer> Oh ok...
#4328 [20:00] <xales> Blannk: Do you have a firewall?
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#4330 [20:00] <KillSpammer> ^
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#4332 [20:00] <Blannk> I have zonealarm.
#4333 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> oh god kill kit kill it with fire
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#4335 [20:01] <KillSpammer> Someone tell DopeGhoti, i support that!
#4336 [20:01] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: KillSpammer supports that
#4337 [20:01] <KillSpammer> Lol thanks
#4338 [20:01] <fogwraith> ZoneAlarm was popular during the mid 90's, even back then it was complete and utter crapshit
#4339 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> Once, around 1999 or so, ZoneAlarm was great
#4340 [20:01] <Grouchotron> Hello everyone. I hopped on hoping to get some advise about mods, but I see thats not an approved topic for this irc. Any suggestions of where I could go to ask a few questions?
#4341 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> now it's a fetit, bloated pile of CPU-sinking putrecence.
#4342 [20:02] <Blannk> yup, zonealarm shutoff gets it working. Recommended alternitive or how to bypass it?
#4343 [20:02] <xales> Grouchotron: What mod, specifically?
#4344 [20:02] <KillSpammer> Or mods.
#4345 [20:02] <xales> Blannk: Its not a good idea to run a desktop firewall such as Zonealarm on a server
#4346 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> Blannk: is your computer connected directly to the itnernet?
#4347 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> or are you behind a router?
#4348 [20:03] <KillSpammer> Also someone can tell DopeGhoti i'm not gonna flood and try to put commas in :)
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#4350 [20:03] <Grouchotron> Actually my questions pertain more to mods in general, specifically I was wondering if the mods are designed for individuals to use on their computers, or for multiplayer servers?
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#4352 [20:03] <xales> Grouchotron: Server run on server, client mods run on clients
#4353 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> Grouchotron: there are both types
#4354 [20:03] <xales> server mods*
#4355 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> but they don't mix well.
#4356 [20:04] <xales> ^at all
#4357 [20:04] <KillSpammer> ^
#4358 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> once the API is out, they'll be better behaved, I suspect.
#4359 [20:04] <Grouchotron> Oh, I wasn't aware an api was in production, awesome!
#4360 [20:04] <KillSpammer> Its not...
#4361 [20:04] <KillSpammer> Its coming soon though.
#4362 [20:04] <Blannk_> How do I set up zonealarm to let me join my own server?
#4363 [20:04] <KillSpammer> Uninstall zonealarm
#4364 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> ninja'd.
#4365 [20:05] <fogwraith> Hohoho, Horatio sure looked surprised when that bomb went off ;P
#4366 [20:05] <KillSpammer> You unignored me?
#4367 [20:05] <crohakon> New server build seems to produce more lag
#4368 [20:05] * Kealper sits back and strokes his mustache sagely while monitoring channel activities
#4368 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> for the time being.
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#4370 [20:05] <KillSpammer> Lol Kealper your a strange person, you have no mustache!
#4371 [20:05] * fogwraith gives Kealper's mustache a wax & trim
#4371 [20:05] <Kealper> i have an epic mustache
#4372 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> Blannk: is your computer connected directly to the internet, or are you behind a router?
#4373 [20:05] <Kealper> fogwraith: NOES!
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#4375 [20:06] <xales> Blannk: uninstall it
#4376 [20:06] <fogwraith> OH YUS!
#4377 [20:06] <KillSpammer> Kealper I challenge you to take a picture of it
#4378 [20:06] <KillSpammer> And show it to us!
#4379 [20:06] <xales> Zonealarm is not designed to function with servers
#4380 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> this is not somethingawful.
#4381 [20:06] <KillSpammer> Zonealarm is designed to fail.
#4382 [20:06] <Blannk> Recommended alternative to zonealarm?
#4383 [20:06] <Grouchotron> Interesting, thanks for the answer. If I wanted to do some research in general on how server mods are designed, is there somewhere I can go for some guides? <- Has java/server admin experience but not enough to know where to start researching
#4384 [20:06] <E_mE> Hi, my updated minecraft (ß1.2) keeps throwing an exception when join my server. do i need to re-download the server app?
#4385 [20:06] <Blannk> computer > router > cable box > internet
#4386 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> okay
#4387 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> you don't need ZA then
#4388 [20:07] <KillSpammer> E_mE, yes
#4389 [20:07] <vegeta_nc> Will the Linux server app update it's self, or will I need to stop and restart it?
#4390 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> you do need some antimalware though
#4391 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> vegeta_nc: you still need to manually update and restart
#4392 [20:07] <E_mE> Internal Exception: java.io.UFTDataFormatException: malform input around byte 6
#4393 [20:07] <KillSpammer> Grouchotron, have a look on the forums.
#4394 [20:07] <E_mE> KillSpammer: ok ill try that our
#4395 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> Blannk: http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/ <- install that; it's easy to use and not horrendous.
#4396 [20:07] <fogwraith> Mustaches are fun, though not when you wake up and realize ye olde gf trimmed it to the size of a hitler-mustache and found it highly amusing >_>
#4397 [20:07] <xales> vegeta_nc: stop, download the .jar again, restart
#4398 [20:08] <vegeta_nc> Ok.
#4399 [20:08] <KillSpammer> vegeta_nc, also remember to use the new .jar :)
#4400 [20:08] <xales> DopeGhoti: But also not very good =/
#4401 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Blannk: but for the love of all that is true and decent in the universe, fid yourself of the curst that is ZoneAlarm
#4402 [20:08] <vegeta_nc> Thank you guys very much.
#4403 [20:08] <Blannk> done
#4404 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> xales: I've seen worse, and I don't have the time to walk someone through AVG right now.
#4405 [20:08] <KillSpammer> Wtf?
#4406 [20:08] <Kealper> stupid imgur desktop uploader takes forever
#4407 [20:08] <Grouchotron> Cool, thanks for the advice
#4408 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: use the bash one :)
#4409 [20:09] <KillSpammer> Why would windows need to restart on a graphics glich fix?
#4410 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> Grouchotron: cheers
#4411 [20:09] <xales> DopeGhoti: :\
#4412 [20:09] <KillSpammer> Or something...
#4413 [20:09] <xales> Kealper: don't use imgur?
#4414 [20:09] <KillSpammer> Related to graphics
#4415 [20:09] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i might write my own :/
#4416 [20:09] <xales> you have a server, use that. lol
#4417 [20:09] <fogwraith> KillSpammer: it's Windows
#4418 [20:09] <Kealper> xales: far too lazy to drag it on to my server lol
#4419 [20:09] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/4nEDX.jpg
#4420 [20:09] <KillSpammer> There needs to be a new Os...
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#4422 [20:09] <KillSpammer> Better than mac and windows!
#4423 [20:09] <E_mE> KillSpammer: cool worked, thanks
#4424 [20:09] <KillSpammer> It shall be
#4425 [20:09] <xales> Kealper: Write an uploader then, probably take 5 minutes in autoit
#4426 [20:09] <xales> KillSpammer: you mean Linux?
#4427 [20:09] <KillSpammer> Maindows!
#4428 [20:09] <KillSpammer> Lol
#4429 [20:09] <xales> trolololol
#4430 [20:09] <fogwraith> Teehee, Kealper, nosehairs ;)
#4431 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> KillSpammer: there are several. Linux. FreeBSD. NetBSD. BSDi. Haiku. HP-UX. AIX. Irix.
#4432 [20:10] <Kealper> my beard grows annoyingly fast...i just shaved like two days ago :/
#4433 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> common theme: they're all POSIX.
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#4435 [20:11] <Kealper> hp-ux...lol
#4436 [20:11] <fogwraith> Kealper: I has teh same issue with my mustache ;P
#4437 [20:11] <xales> Why can't more people be like these last two :/
#4438 [20:11] <xales> get their answer and leave
#4439 [20:12] <KillSpammer> Like me
#4440 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> xales: because this channel isn't set up in a draconian queue-based system?
#4441 [20:12] <KillSpammer> I stayed!
#4442 [20:12] <xales> there we go, fixed
#4443 [20:12] <Kealper> that works
#4444 [20:12] <slimer> i need a GOOD server
#4445 [20:12] <fogwraith> slimer: join #SMP
#4446 [20:12] <xales> slimer: Most servers aren't working properly because the update just came out
#4447 [20:12] <fogwraith> Ask there
#4448 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> xales: hm.
#4449 [20:12] <slimer> because of hMod
#4450 [20:13] <Kealper> KillSpammer: did you see the pic i sent? that was sort of directed at your challenge lol
#4451 [20:13] <KillSpammer> I did
#4452 [20:13] <KillSpammer> You have proved it
#4453 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> xales: A bit harsh. I'd have said somehting akin to "Remember, we're volunteers, not servants."
#4454 [20:13] <xales> DopeGhoti: It needs to be, or people will bitch
#4455 [20:13] <slimer> the one i like refuses to put it back up because they say creepers started destroying everything
#4456 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> xales: *snrk* people will bitch regardless.
#4457 [20:13] <xales> slimer: How do you expect us to fix that?
#4458 [20:13] <fogwraith> Creepers destroy things because people are noobs and let them get too close ;P
#4459 [20:13] <xales> DopeGhoti: At least we have a solid position that can't be argued
#4460 [20:14] <Blannk> How to set minecraft server to create a world that's entirely flat ground?
#4461 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> slimer: I just got off the phone with your pet admin; he's apologized and assures me that everything is exactly as you want it now.
#4462 [20:14] <KillSpammer> Blannk
#4463 [20:14] <xales> Blannk: No way to my knowledge
#4464 [20:14] <KillSpammer> Mod.
#4465 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> Blannk: Lots of digging and draining of lakes.
#4466 [20:14] <xales> ^
#4467 [20:14] <slimer> DopeGhoti: still broken
#4468 [20:14] <KillSpammer> Or of course you can use a map editor
#4469 [20:14] <xales> slimer: That was, of course, a joke...
#4470 [20:15] <slimer> o
#4471 [20:15] <xales> KillSpammer: It will only make existing world flat, not new chunks
#4472 [20:15] <slimer> somebody fix the plugin?
#4473 [20:15] <Kealper> plugin?
#4474 [20:15] <fogwraith> slimer: they will fix it when they have time
#4475 [20:16] <fogwraith> Hey0 lost interest
#4476 [20:16] <KillSpammer> Good
#4477 [20:16] <KillSpammer> He needs to get to making games
#4478 [20:16] <KillSpammer> And commerical stuff
#4479 [20:16] <KillSpammer> He needs moar money.
#4480 [20:16] <Kealper> he can't
#4481 [20:16] <fogwraith> He sure does
#4482 [20:16] <Valium> or ya know, high school.
#4483 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#4484 [20:16] <Kealper> he's too young lol
#4485 [20:16] <KillSpammer> Neva...
#4486 [20:16] <KillSpammer> Dev a game for 3 years?
#4487 [20:16] <KillSpammer> OMFG?!
#4488 [20:16] <KillSpammer> Lol
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#4490 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> it worked pretty well for Valve.
#4491 [20:19] <xales> Dope, what am I missing here
#4492 [20:20] <Blannk> easier question to answer. How do I get the server to create a new random map? My spawn point is underwater.
#4493 [20:20] <Valium> delete /world/
#4494 [20:20] <xales> Because of the number of people that have been playing the troll game, I'm grepping my logs for everyone who asks a question
#4495 [20:20] <fogwraith> How do I shot webs?
#4496 [20:20] <xales> So, I'm using a wildcard grep (grep ip-1-2*.city.isp.tld)
#4497 [20:21] <xales> But it gives no results (when I know there are) D:
#4498 [20:21] <xales> Am I just being retarded again?
#4499 [20:21] <KillSpammer> I don't know
#4500 [20:21] <xales> $ grep -lire '*.ph.ph.cox.net' .
#4501 [20:21] <KillSpammer> I have no idea what your on about.
#4502 [20:21] <Valium> has anyone really been minecraft even as decided to hMOD even go want to do look more like?
#4503 [20:21] <xales> KillSpammer: I'm talking to Dope mostly :/
#4504 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> xales: '.' is a special character; you need to escape it.
#4505 [20:22] <xales> the . is the directory
#4506 [20:22] <fogwraith> Sense; Valium made none
#4507 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> to regex, I mean
#4508 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> and therefore to grep.
#4509 [20:22] <xales> i tried it with that
#4510 [20:22] <xales> grep -lir "ip\-68*\.ph\.ph\.cox\.net" .
#4511 [20:22] <Jguy> omfg....This spider climbing wall thing is crazy...my mob trap had like...40 spiders at the top of it...
#4512 [20:22] <xales> still no results
#4513 [20:22] <Valium> fogwraith: I was tryting to make a cever modifcation to a terrible meme fram a while back
#4514 [20:22] <Valium> clever
#4515 [20:23] <xales> and if I take out any wildcards and just look as-is for an exact match, it finds it just peachy
#4516 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Hrm.
#4517 [20:23] <Blannk> Spiders climb?
#4518 [20:23] <Valium> xales: why are you grepping cox?
#4519 [20:23] <Valium> kinda kinky man
#4520 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> try ip-68*ph\.cox\.net
#4521 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Valium: better than fingering, no?
#4522 [20:24] <xales> nothing
#4523 [20:24] <Valium> XD
#4524 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> what is the exact command you are using?
#4525 [20:24] * DopeGhoti /joins #regex
#4525 [20:25] <xales> DopeGhoti: oh sorry
#4526 [20:25] <xales> $ grep -lir 'ip-68*ph\.cox\.net' .
#4527 [20:25] <xales> l = show files containing rather than results, r = recursive, i = case insensitive
#4528 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> use R, not r.
#4529 [20:26] <xales> R and r are the same
#4530 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> ah, tehy're..
#4531 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> yeah
#4532 [20:26] <xales> and it still doesn't work, with no options at all
#4533 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> grep -lir 'ip-68*ph*cox\.net' . possibly?
#4534 [20:27] <xales> nope
#4535 [20:27] * DopeGhoti is admittedly just a white-belt in grep-fu
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#4536 [20:27] <Blannk> Is there a way to set server to peaceful?
#4537 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> maybe if I had my copy of irssi logging, I could experiment locally. But, alas, I don't.
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#4539 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> Blannk: yes.
#4540 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> spawn-monsters=false in server.properties
#4541 [20:28] <Blannk> ty
#4542 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> That'll be $8.
#4543 [20:28] <xales> I'm not sure why, but egrep seems to like some of them (not all)
#4544 [20:29] <xales> which I just found out
#4545 [20:29] <xales> :/
#4546 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> IME egrep is more usable than grep
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#4548 [20:30] <dolanm9> hello
#4549 [20:30] <xales> hello
#4550 [20:30] <dolanm9> got a question and feel really bad about coming in here and asking, but couldnt find anything that helped me correctly in teh forums
#4551 [20:30] <xales> well, what is the question
#4552 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> *coughcough*moddedserver*coughcough*
#4553 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> hem. 'scuse me.
#4554 [20:31] <dolanm9> not really
#4555 [20:31] <dolanm9> just a plain hosted server
#4556 [20:31] * DopeGhoti apologizes for the assumption.
#4556 [20:31] <dolanm9> no mods, just cant figure out how to get the server software to run on startup with ubuntu server
#4557 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> that's simple eough
#4558 [20:31] <dolanm9> tried a variety of scripts ive found
#4559 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> stash some sudo commands in /etc/rc.local
#4560 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> Do you run your server via screen?
#4561 [20:32] <dolanm9> ssh
#4562 [20:32] <dolanm9> CLI
#4563 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> yes, but when you ssh, precisely how do you start the server?
#4564 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> do you use screen, or hohup, or what?
#4565 [20:33] <dolanm9> just the command line
#4566 [20:33] <xales> those are all command line tools
#4567 [20:33] <dolanm9> "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui"
#4568 [20:34] <dolanm9> sorry, still learning linux a bit
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#4570 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> right, but if you just run that at the command line
#4571 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> when you close your SSH session, the server dies
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#4573 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> or is that what you're looking to fix? :)
#4574 [20:35] <xales> DopeGhoti: append ampersand = easy mode
#4575 [20:35] <dolanm9> would run it with a windows box, but the server hardware is so crappy that windows crashes every so often and ive found linux much more stable
#4576 [20:35] <Valium> dolanm9: try using screen, crontab and a shell script that checks for PID in a creative way
#4577 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> xales: not really, HUP kills that sort of BG process
#4578 [20:35] <dolanm9> ohh
#4579 [20:35] <dolanm9> hmm
#4580 [20:35] <xales> DopeGhoti: Java listens to HUP?
#4581 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> yep
#4582 [20:35] <dolanm9> well im really trying to get it to start up upon boot
#4583 [20:35] <xales> also, start-stop-daemon because its Debian
#4584 [20:35] <xales> dolanm9: If it is a server, why do you shut it off? :/
#4585 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> dolanm9: right. Okay, first, sudo apt-get install screen
#4586 [20:36] <dolanm9> power failure
#4587 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> learn to use it (not all that involved really)
#4588 [20:36] <mbentley> <3 screen
#4589 [20:36] <xales> ah, the lovely wonders of hosting at home.
#4590 [20:36] <xales> I used screen for a while, I actually like tmux better now
#4591 [20:36] <mbentley> that's how i run my mc server
#4592 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> and then put a line in /etc/rc.local to restart the screen as the proper user and have it launch minecraft
#4593 [20:36] <fogwraith> Hosting at home <3
#4594 [20:37] <dolanm9> well be glad im compentent enough to know how to bypass a nat/pat and redirect a incoming port request
#4595 [20:37] <dolanm9> or else i could be a whole lot more annoying
#4596 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> we're delighted to not assist you with your port forwarding ;)
#4597 [20:37] <dolanm9> heh
#4598 [20:37] <mbentley> for serious
#4599 [20:37] <dolanm9> well id be embarrising if i had to seeing as im a IT tech
#4600 [20:38] <ziggo0> You should play with linux more then
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#4602 [20:38] <dolanm9> thats the plan
#4603 [20:38] <ziggo0> more knowledge doesnt hurt anything
#4604 [20:38] <ziggo0> hurts the brain though :|
#4605 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> if you're an IT tech, you will want to send me a pizza or something when you grok screen :)
#4606 [20:38] <dolanm9> thats part of teh reason im doing this
#4607 [20:38] <dolanm9> gotta learn linux somehow, and having fun while doing it helps alot
#4608 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
#4609 [20:39] <dolanm9> and sorry for the typos, and grammer errors, im a IT tech, not a writer, i just type fast not correctly
#4610 [20:39] <dolanm9> ok, screen is installed
#4611 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> sounds familiar
#4612 [20:39] <dolanm9> unless its a script
#4613 [20:39] <dolanm9> lol
#4614 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> okay, now: do you run minecraft as a dedicated user, like a good admin?
#4615 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> or as root?
#4616 [20:40] <xales> DopeGhoti: that annoying clone guy runs his IRC as root .-.
#4617 [20:40] <dolanm9> dedicated
#4618 [20:40] <dolanm9> nothing gets run as root
#4619 [20:40] <dolanm9> im not that dim
#4620 [20:40] <mbentley> :D
#4621 [20:40] <dolanm9> yet
#4622 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> okay
#4623 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> I'm whipping up a quick script that you will drop into /etc/rc.local
#4624 [20:42] <dolanm9> thanks much
#4625 [20:42] <xales> someone was just in #minecraft asking where to download the SMP server. $10 says he is here within the hour. anyone else care to bet?
#4626 [20:43] <ziggo0> hmm..
#4627 [20:43] <mbentley> heh if you can't find the server files to download...
#4628 [20:43] <xales> well, his response when someone said "download page" was appropriate
#4629 [20:43] <xales> just "I stoopid"
#4630 [20:43] <xales> so...maybe not?
#4631 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> dolanm9: http://pastebin.com/VawfA2rq should do the trick
#4632 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> modify lines 3 and 4 to taste.
#4633 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> actually
#4634 [20:44] <dolanm9> thanks, i see what i did wrong with the last script i tried
#4635 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> http://pastebin.com/xF320wRq
#4636 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> use that instead.
#4637 [20:45] <xales> dolanm9: make sure you put it in runlevel 5
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#4640 [20:45] <xales> you don't want to be boned if you ever boot to single user and minecraft is screwing up the system
#4641 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> xales: what? rc.local runs at all runlevels other than 1.
#4642 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> (and 0, and 6)
#4643 [20:45] <xales> DopeGhoti: oh, I thought you linked him to /etc/rd.whatever
#4644 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> rc.local is a file, not a directory :)
#4645 [20:45] <NinjaKirby> My compass isn't pointing towards my spawn point.
#4646 [20:45] <xales> rc*
#4647 [20:45] <mbentley> debian boots to runlevel 2
#4648 [20:46] <xales> eh, you sure?
#4649 [20:46] <xales> oh, I guess so
#4650 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: ubuntu boots to 5 (or 3 for server ed.)
#4651 [20:46] <mbentley> root@athena:~# runlevel
#4652 [20:46] <mbentley> N 2
#4653 [20:46] <mbentley> yeah
#4654 [20:46] <xales> yeah, I just ran it myself
#4655 [20:46] <xales> [rangernox@darksigns:irclogs/espernet]$ runlevel (01-13 20:46)
#4656 [20:46] <xales> N 2
#4657 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> ubuntu may be a fork of debian, but it is not debian :)
#4658 [20:46] <xales> stoopit zsh
#4659 [20:46] <mbentley> it has to be different :D
#4660 [20:46] <mbentley> zsh? ewww
#4661 [20:46] <mbentley> :D
#4662 [20:47] <xales> what wrong with zsh?
#4663 [20:47] <xales> just gotta config it a bit :/
#4664 [20:47] <mbentley> it's not bash
#4665 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> other than teaching bad scripting habits (FCVO 'bad')?
#4666 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> (where 'bad' == 'incompatible')
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#4668 [20:47] <mbentley> could be worse i suppose. we have csh as the default on most of our servers at work
#4669 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> it's swanky, to be sure
#4670 [20:47] <xales> I can choose to use the zsh-specific features or not, Dope. And I don't :)
#4671 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: you could be running ksh.
#4672 [20:48] <mbentley> our old solaris 8 boxes have ksh only
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#4674 [20:48] <ziggo0> Something else to keep in mind, if your running hmod you gotta change the script's jar file, shouldn't be to hard if you have eyes and fingers
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#4676 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> something else to keep in mind, if you're running hmod You Are Doing It Wrong.
#4677 [20:49] <aetherian> someone do me a favor?
#4678 [20:49] <ziggo0> Why is that?
#4679 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> for the same reason that, say, running production server on Red Hat 2.0 would be Doing It Wrong
#4680 [20:50] <xales> DopeGhoti: Or running any sort of server on Windows, in almost every case
#4681 [20:51] <ziggo0> Good point
#4682 [20:51] <xales> Actually, is there any point where running a server on Windows is valid?
#4683 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> dolanm9: sorry, forgot a line. Before line 4, instert one reading "cd $MC_PATH"
#4684 [20:52] <xales> Samba is more stable as a Domain Controller than Windows is
#4685 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> xales: if you want job security in the same way that shady mechinaics get it?
#4686 [20:52] <Valium> xales: If your corporation got suckered into the asp.net carze, then yes, that is a legitimate reason to use IIS on a windows server
#4687 [20:53] <xales> Valium: Mono?
#4688 [20:53] <dolanm9> excellent, that worked great
#4689 [20:53] <Valium> mono?
#4690 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> Valium: so if I grew up in the 60's, my LSD usage would be legitimate because it was a craze?
#4691 [20:53] <dolanm9> yea, i figured that one out,
#4692 [20:53] <xales> Google it
#4693 [20:53] <dolanm9> thanks much
#4694 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> dolanm9: cheers
#4695 [20:53] <xales> anyway, I have to go for a bit. I'll be back later :O
#4696 [20:53] <Valium> DopeGhoti: no, you don't need LSD to survive
#4697 [20:54] <Valium> had it been heroin, then yes
#4698 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> I don't need .ASP eigher.
#4699 [20:54] <mbentley> i have the best of both worlds... my server runs debian but also hosts many vmware VMs that include domain controllers and an exchange server
#4700 [20:54] <Valium> I was asked to help a kid with his SQL homework...
#4701 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> in fact, $client is now paying $employer mad cash to transition their site from Win64/IIS/Apache/SharePoint to POSIX64/Apache
#4702 [20:54] <mbentley> but i use samba for file sharing + all authentication of users
#4703 [20:54] <Valium> he sends me his queries...
#4704 [20:54] <dolanm9> mbentley: thats my next project, be glad this is not the irc ill be asking questions in
#4705 [20:54] <mbentley> now that was a great way to learn a ton of stuff
#4706 [20:54] <Valium> fucking MSSQL
#4707 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> Valium: a-fscking-MEN
#4708 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> I can't wait to be rid of that monstrosity.
#4709 [20:55] <mbentley> lately i have stopped using apache and gone completely to nginx
#4710 [20:55] <Valium> somone needs to tell MS that they cant just modify and invent 'standards'
#4711 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> but then they'd need a new mantra to replace "embrace, extend, extinguish"
#4712 [20:56] <mbentley> Valium: i hear you there
#4713 [20:56] <mbentley> like simple stuff like imap... they can't even follow the standards there
#4714 [20:56] <Valium> maybe if they would show up to an RFC confrence one in a while
#4715 [20:56] <dopeghoti> ciao, folks
#4716 [20:57] <mbentley> adios
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#4718 [20:58] <V> Woah its a party in here
#4719 [20:59] <V> Anyways, I'm lookin for a vps or dedicated with about 10-15 slots for around $15 a month
#4720 [20:59] <V> Which would be best
#4721 [20:59] <V> Cant find the list on the forum
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#4723 [21:00] <Valium> V good luck with that
#4724 [21:00] <V> Okay upwards of $20 then
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#4726 [21:02] <ziggo0> has to be a vps?
#4727 [21:02] <Valium> V : Last time I used a VPS with what you're asking, it ran about 175
#4728 [21:02] <V> Okay then not vps
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#4730 [21:02] <Valium> dedicated would be more
#4731 [21:02] <mbentley> it would almost be cheaper to buy the best home internet connection and a dedicated server...
#4732 [21:02] <V> Just plain dedicated. I might just go with minecraft-servers.com
#4733 [21:02] <dolanm9> for that price for any service, it needs to be shared
#4734 [21:03] <Valium> my suggestion, for the money you would invest, have a second broadband line run to your house and buy a system to host
#4735 [21:03] <V> Instead of $18/mo for 10 slots?
#4736 [21:03] <Valium> cheaper after about 4-5 months
#4737 [21:03] <V> The problem isnt the broadband line, its the fact that nobody is home ever and I'd rather not keep the computer running while the majority is in school
#4738 [21:04] <V> But the classes are staggered
#4739 [21:04] <ziggo0> if your concerned about power usage, it cant relaly be that much
#4740 [21:04] <Valium> V: try one of the new acer revo systems.
#4741 [21:04] <Valium> VERY low power
#4742 [21:04] <Valium> and the system can do it
#4743 [21:04] <ziggo0> dual core atoms?
#4744 [21:04] <mbentley> i'd guess mine is like $20/year for my server or so
#4745 [21:04] <Valium> It's what I'm doing right now in fact
#4746 [21:05] <dolanm9> with a 250 watt low power server it only costs about 10 a month to run full time
#4747 [21:05] <dolanm9> total
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#4749 [21:05] <mbentley> i have a system that has an atom d510 and it can't run a minecraft server
#4750 [21:05] <dolanm9> err sorry, refine, total elect bill with normal comp usage plus server
#4751 [21:05] <Valium> mbentley: my n270 does it
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#4753 [21:06] <mbentley> mine doesn't really do it well
#4754 [21:06] <V> Yeah but I don't have $200 to just toss down plainly
#4755 [21:06] <Valium> mbentley: windows or linux?
#4756 [21:06] <mbentley> linux, debian squeeze
#4757 [21:06] <V> its me and some bros pitchin in like $5 each for a server
#4758 [21:06] <Valium> ramdisk?
#4759 [21:06] <mbentley> yup
#4760 [21:06] <Valium> hmm... odd
#4761 [21:06] <mbentley> i might have to try it again but i didn't have any luck before
#4762 [21:06] <ziggo0> It should run with at least a few players no problem
#4763 [21:06] <Valium> I'm even using a full blown ubuntu maverick
#4764 [21:07] <mbentley> will give me something to try tomorrow at work when i am bored
#4765 [21:07] <ziggo0> I used an old p4 and a gig of ram and it worked for a 5 players
#4766 [21:07] <V> My connection is too unreliable
#4767 [21:07] <ziggo0> i can imagine an atom is faster than that
#4768 [21:07] <V> I'm on rogers
#4769 [21:07] <ziggo0> cable?
#4770 [21:07] <V> yeah
#4771 [21:07] <V> shit gets wonky if I open my front door
#4772 [21:07] <V> People don't like lag, etc etcv
#4773 [21:08] <ziggo0> Sounds like there are other problems lol
#4774 [21:08] <V> Ahahaha I know right
#4775 [21:08] <V> No, rogers canada is just shit
#4776 [21:08] <V> Nothing else in the waterloo region
#4777 [21:08] <Valium> thats because rogers is run by Canidiots
#4778 [21:08] <Valium> no helping that
#4779 [21:08] <V> I can't tell if you're serious or just being an asshole
#4780 [21:09] <Valium> I'm making a joke about rogers
#4781 [21:09] <V> Either way, it sucks and its throttled and theres no other choices
#4782 [21:09] <V> So I'm looking for a dedicated around $20
#4783 [21:09] <V> Minecraft-servers.com seems to be my best bet atm
#4784 [21:09] <Valium> kinda like comcast being run by Americant's
#4785 [21:09] * ziggo0 shudders
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#4786 [21:10] <ziggo0> is rogers as bad as shaws?
#4787 [21:10] <V> Yeah but you guys get rooster booster
#4788 [21:10] <ziggo0> Countless comps ive worked on up there on shaw connections are horrid
#4789 [21:10] <V> Shaws is bad too
#4790 [21:10] <metacognate1> Gentlemen.
#4791 [21:10] <V> But rogers throttles your connection from 3-5 and 9-12
#4792 [21:10] <metacognate1> How does one rollback versions?
#4793 [21:10] <ziggo0> power boost as they call it only gets you to the cap faster lol
#4794 [21:10] <V> Ahaha
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#4796 [21:11] <metacognate1> I can't join my favourite server; it says that I'm banned, due to the update.
#4797 [21:11] <Valium> ziggo0: no kidding
#4798 [21:11] <CruelNoise> yo Cial
#4799 [21:11] <V> 80gb bandwidth cap, $2 for each gb gone over
#4800 [21:11] <Valium> Im on the 12 Mbit upload plan, I get 25
#4801 [21:11] <Valium> download, my bad
#4802 [21:11] <Cial> yo
#4803 [21:11] <napoleon98> anyone here familiar with mcadmin and could perhaps help me with some server issues?
#4804 [21:11] <dolanm9> dont you hate when your learning a system and you try to fix somethign and you just make it worse
#4805 [21:11] <ziggo0> First month of my 50/10 package, I blew past 250gb in a week, not trying.
#4806 [21:11] <Valium> napoleon98: like that it doesnt work anymore?
#4807 [21:11] <mbentley> wow, 80gb cap? ouch
#4808 [21:11] <V> Yep
#4809 [21:11] <V> nazis man
#4810 [21:12] <Valium> mbentley: most of Australia is 12Gb cap
#4811 [21:12] <metacognate1> Oh, don't complain about an 80gb cap
#4812 [21:12] <ziggo0> Valium: dont upgrade, its addicting to watch the bigger numbers lol.
#4813 [21:12] <metacognate1> I have a fucking 5gb cap.
#4814 [21:12] <mbentley> comcast has a soft cap of 250 and i find that sufficient
#4815 [21:12] <V> For the XTREME pack, its 100gb, $20 if you go over, $100/month
#4816 [21:12] <metacognate1> Verizon.
#4817 [21:12] <mbentley> 5gb? i can download that in a couple hours. yikes!
#4818 [21:12] <metacognate1> Yep.
#4819 [21:12] <ziggo0> It is sufficient for 95% of the US/Comcast customers
#4820 [21:12] <metacognate1> And then every megabyte over is something like 25c each.
#4821 [21:13] <mbentley> that is insane
#4822 [21:13] <metacognate1> Anyway. This is minecraft help. How does one roll back versions?
#4823 [21:13] <xales> V: In regard to your earlier question, it sounds to me like you want a minecraft server not a Dedicated or VPS
#4824 [21:13] <mbentley> you really can't
#4825 [21:13] <xales> metacognate1: one does not
#4826 [21:13] <metacognate1> That's disappointing.
#4827 [21:13] <aetherian> roughly how much ram do you need per person if one is hosting a server.
#4828 [21:13] <ziggo0> Managed hosting would suite him the best givin his budget and requirements.
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#4830 [21:13] <xales> aetherian: 100MB
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#4832 [21:14] <the_late_man> ack
#4833 [21:14] <xales> ziggo0: Managed? I hope your joking. Shared is probably what you mean
#4834 [21:14] <the_late_man> sorry
#4835 [21:14] <Ubertastic> So could anyone help me to make SMP not uber fail for me? Respawning bugs galore, player coordinates never being the same between clients, etc etc
#4836 [21:14] <xales> Ubertastic: Are you running any mods?
#4837 [21:14] <V> YEAH, thats what I want xales. I was just trying to sound fancy. You know of any?
#4838 [21:14] <Ubertastic> xales: Nope.
#4839 [21:14] <ziggo0> Not a managed vps or dedicated server, like the site he listed before, perhaps I meant shared.
#4840 [21:14] <ziggo0> Seems most hosting companies are calling it managed
#4841 [21:15] <xales> V: Ehh, I haven't used any, but check out allgamer.net and multiplay
#4842 [21:15] <V> kk
#4843 [21:15] <xales> ziggo0: Managed is when you pay them to run the entire server (basically hiring a system administrator to do it for you)
#4844 [21:15] <xales> Shared is where you don't have that level of control in the first place
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#4846 [21:15] <xales> Managed = really expensive. Shared = dirt cheap
#4847 [21:15] <ziggo0> I should've said shared, my bad
#4848 [21:16] <Kaito> is the beta REALLY laggy for anyone else?
#4849 [21:16] <xales> Kaito: Nope
#4850 [21:16] <Kaito> damn...mines gotten super bad
#4851 [21:17] <mbentley> on my work laptop yeah
#4852 [21:17] <xales> Kaito: Are you running a server by any chance?
#4853 [21:17] <Kaito> i /shouldn't/ be
#4854 [21:18] <Kaito> nope
#4855 [21:18] <ziggo0> xales: here is what I meant by hosting companies using the terms 'managed' http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1027&t=74439
#4856 [21:18] <Ubertastic> Most blocks in the world are not breakable, and when they are, they respawn. Player coordinates are almost always messed up between clients ("Are you standing next to me?"), the map loads chunks horribly, I see seizuring animals/mobs in the distance as the map has refused to load
#4857 [21:18] <ziggo0> They manage the minecraft server, not the whole box
#4858 [21:18] <xales> Ubertastic: It sounds like the server isn't up to running Minecraft then. What are the specs? (RAM and CPU)
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#4860 [21:18] <xales> ziggo0: Thats shared hosting then, if they say managed then they are wrong :/
#4861 [21:19] <ziggo0> Ya, thanks for correcting me
#4862 [21:19] <Ubertastic> 4GB ram, 2.5GHz i5
#4863 [21:19] <mbentley> hmm, that should run a server just fine
#4864 [21:19] <xales> Ubertastic: You are sure you aren't running any mods?
#4865 [21:19] <xales> ziggo0: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managed_dedicated_server
#4866 [21:20] <Ubertastic> xales: unless mods used by some client cause a problem with the server
#4867 [21:20] <xales> Ubertastic: Do you experience the same problems when just one person is playing?
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#4869 [21:21] <Ubertastic> xales: Let me test
#4870 [21:21] <slimer> lol
#4871 [21:21] <V> Xales: multiplay had a deal on
#4872 [21:21] <V> cool stuff
#4873 [21:22] <V> thanks a bunch
#4874 [21:22] <xales> no problem
#4875 [21:23] <ziggo0> Would you guys say storage I/O limits minecraft servers before cpu power/ram (if ram amount isn't a problem to begin with)
#4876 [21:23] <mbentley> i would
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#4878 [21:23] <xales> ziggo0: Definately, especially with a VPS
#4879 [21:23] <xales> well, openvz VPS anyway
#4880 [21:23] <mbentley> i was getting bad lag when i had my large minecraft map on my 5400 rpm storage drive
#4881 [21:24] <ziggo0> That's what I'm noticing more and more...I have 6 servers on a box, hosting them for free/random people and it seems hdd i/o is killing them more than anything.
#4882 [21:24] <ziggo0> I was thinking about grabbing a SSD to play with.
#4883 [21:24] <mbentley> put em in ram and haven't had a problem since
#4884 [21:24] <ziggo0> I was considering that too
#4885 [21:24] <mbentley> got rid of those 'did the clock change/system lag' messages
#4886 [21:24] <ziggo0> 4gb ddr2 sticks are expensive :(
#4887 [21:24] <ionface> http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1294971846218.jpg
#4888 [21:25] <mbentley> yeah, ddr2 is expensive these days... ddr3 not really
#4889 [21:25] <dolanm9> 80 bucks a pop you could say so
#4890 [21:25] <xales> ionface: This is minecraft help, not 4chan :/
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#4892 [21:25] <ziggo0> The server I priced out to get colod a 4gb stick of ddr3 runs 55 ~ 60
#4893 [21:25] <ziggo0> ddr2 is near 100
#4894 [21:26] <lyude> Does anyone here know if hey0mod has been updated to work with Minecraft 1.2?
#4895 [21:26] <xales> lyude: It has not
#4896 [21:26] <lyude> Alright
#4897 [21:26] <lyude> Thank you
#4898 [21:26] <xales> mhmm
#4899 [21:26] <CruelNoise> hey0 has in fact, been abandoned
#4900 [21:26] <lyude> Not yet
#4901 [21:26] <xales> ^
#4902 [21:26] <lyude> Not until Bukket is ready
#4903 [21:26] <ionface> what's the hey0 fork?
#4904 [21:26] <lyude> Bukket
#4905 [21:27] <ionface> kk
#4906 [21:27] <lyude> It's not going to be abandoned until Bukket is stable and such
#4907 [21:27] <Ubertastic> update: deleted entire .minecraft directory on the both clients (friend and I), seemed to work fine with one person, two people entirely breaks it again
#4908 [21:27] <xales> Ubertastic: Tried creating a new world?
#4909 [21:28] <xales> on the server
#4910 [21:28] <Ubertastic> Yes
#4911 [21:28] <lyude> Would recompiling the source for hey0mod against the new minecraft software fix anything
#4912 [21:28] <Ubertastic> hmm...
#4913 [21:28] <lyude> (not too savvy when it comes to java)
#4914 [21:29] <mbentley> lyude: probably not
#4915 [21:29] <lyude> Darn
#4916 [21:29] <lyude> I want to play, but my server's not going to be up until hmod works
#4917 [21:29] <mbentley> otherwise it would have been fixed at 12:30 this afternoon est
#4918 [21:29] <mbentley> :)
#4919 [21:29] <xales> It may be...quite a while :/
#4920 [21:29] <lyude> How long?
#4921 [21:29] <xales> Ubertastic: The server is running Windows, right?
#4922 [21:30] <xales> lyude: No idea
#4923 [21:30] <Ubertastic> xales: Yep, via the .exe, not the ,jar
#4924 [21:31] <xales> I have to go for a bit, mbentley, I'm thinking in regards to Ubertastic's problem that it may be swapping or harddisk corrupt/read errors
#4925 [21:31] <Grouchotron> Hello everyone. I hopped on hoping to get some advise about mods, but I see thats not an approved topic for this irc. Any suggestions of where I could go to ask a few questions/exit
#4926 [21:31] <xales> Ubertastic: mbentley should be able to help you
#4927 [21:31] <Grouchotron> ah... misfire sorry
#4928 [21:31] <xales> Grouchotron: Weren't you just here a few hours ago asking about mods?
#4929 [21:31] <xales> lol
#4930 [21:32] <mbentley> lol xales
#4931 [21:32] <mbentley> i haven't ran a minecraft server on windows
#4932 [21:32] <mbentley> haven't run/ran?
#4933 [21:32] <Ubertastic> I can try linux.
#4934 [21:32] <xales> mbentley: but you know how to check if its swapping or disk read/write errors :)
#4935 [21:32] <xales> Ubertastic: yeah, try linux
#4936 [21:32] <mbentley> true
#4937 [21:32] <lyude> Linux is good for servers
#4938 [21:32] <xales> mbentley: it would be ran
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#4940 [21:32] <mbentley> yay i win
#4941 [21:33] <xales> Which is to say, Windows is very bad at them, and Linux tends to be ideal, lyude
#4942 [21:33] <xales> :)
#4943 [21:33] <lyude> Yeah, windows server is more or less of a joke
#4944 [21:33] <xales> Aaaaanyway, I'll be back in like a half hour or less
#4945 [21:34] <Boreeas> Is there any way to reduce lag on my server?
#4946 [21:34] <lyude> Boreeas, specs?
#4947 [21:34] <aetherian> !ping
#4948 [21:34] <crickets> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.241 Seconds.
#4949 [21:34] <aetherian> ah, I fixed it maybe
#4950 [21:35] <aetherian> brb, ima test something
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#4952 [21:36] <dolanm9> i had the mc server running on windows
#4953 [21:36] <dolanm9> but linux is so much faster and smoother
#4954 [21:36] <dolanm9> though its a much lower spec machine
#4955 [21:36] <Boreeas> lyyude,you mean processor, RAM, etc?
#4956 [21:37] <mbentley> definitely helps since the os does't take much in the way of system resources
#4957 [21:37] <ziggo0> The one I host on windows has zero issues...however the box is pretty high end and stays at idle most of the time.
#4958 [21:38] <dolanm9> well it was running on a machine with core 2 quad 2.66 ghz 8gb ram and windows 7. now running on celeron D 3 ghz 1gb ram ubuntu server
#4959 [21:38] <dolanm9> much faster
#4960 [21:38] <ziggo0> strange
#4961 [21:38] <dolanm9> though that might be because java cant run well on multi core
#4962 [21:38] <dolanm9> so the single core higher speed does it
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#4964 [21:39] <lyude> Wait
#4965 [21:39] <lyude> Boreeas, yeah
#4966 [21:39] <lyude> That stuff
#4967 [21:39] <lyude> And can MC server actually run on multi cores?
#4968 [21:40] <mbentley> it can, it just doesn't really benefit from multiple cores
#4969 [21:40] <mbentley> not as much as multithreaded apps
#4970 [21:40] <lyude> ^ thatr's what i meant
#4971 [21:40] <dolanm9> java doesnt have much support for multicore at this time
#4972 [21:40] <lyude> So it can't be multithreaded
#4973 [21:40] <lyude> Are they planning it?
#4974 [21:40] <mbentley> not sure if you can or not
#4975 [21:40] <lyude> Because that would mean I could run it on a smexy sparc server
#4976 [21:40] <mbentley> but it doesn't seem to take advantage of multicores
#4977 [21:41] <mbentley> lyude: do it
#4978 [21:41] <mbentley> :)
#4979 [21:41] <lyude> Nah, the server has four CPU's BUT
#4980 [21:41] <lyude> They're all clocked at 900 MHz
#4981 [21:41] <Boreeas> Processor: Intel Core i5 CPU M430 @ 2.27GHz (4 CPUs, 2 of them virtual), ~ 2.3 GHz, 3027 MB RAM
#4982 [21:41] <lyude> *2 CPU's, 4 threads
#4983 [21:41] <lyude> And that should handle a server
#4984 [21:42] <lyude> Only thing I can think of is maybe your connection's under stress?
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#4986 [21:43] * prodigy|gFx[CEO [prodigy|gFx[CEO@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4987 [21:43] <mib_57wx43> hey how do i refund my money
#4988 [21:43] <mib_57wx43> hello
#4989 [21:43] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> hey so is there a fix for this internal exception error yet?
#4990 [21:44] <netherian> help
#4991 [21:44] <mbentley> email payment@mojang.com
#4992 [21:44] <netherian> connection lost; internal exception: java.io.utfdataformatexception: malformed input around byte n
#4993 [21:44] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> yes that error
#4994 [21:45] <netherian> n changes
#4995 [21:45] <netherian> oh
#4996 [21:45] <netherian> that's the one I just got
#4997 [21:45] <mbentley> netherian: connect to an upgraded server
#4998 [21:45] <netherian> haha
#4999 [21:45] <netherian> okay
#5000 [21:45] <mbentley> that error = server not updated
#5001 [21:45] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> how do we update our own server?
#5002 [21:45] <netherian> tyvm
#5003 [21:45] <mib_57wx43> i emailed payment@mojang.com like 5 days ago or so but nothing
#5004 [21:45] <Boreeas> Hmm, I actually have random Wifi problems recently (Browsers not able to access internet, any other application as well as any other computer in the network is fine, LAN works without problems...) Maybe it's that my Wifi is even malfunctioning when it apears to be working.
#5005 [21:46] <mbentley> stop your server, download the new minecraft server files, restart server
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#5007 [21:46] <mbentley> !server
#5008 [21:46] <mbentley> :/
#5009 [21:46] <Kealper> dotdotdot
#5010 [21:46] <Kealper> !enable
#5011 [21:46] <Kealper> o.o
#5012 [21:46] <mbentley> !server
#5013 [21:46] <Raikuron> ...
#5014 [21:46] <Boreeas> Will test running my server on LAN then for a few days. Thanks.
#5015 [21:46] <Boreeas> ...
#5016 [21:46] <mbentley> 2nd time's the charm
#5017 [21:46] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> thank you sir
#5018 [21:46] <Cial> prodigy|gFx[CEO, you download the new version of the server software
#5019 [21:46] <Raikuron> !rules
#5020 [21:46] <Raikuron> Dammit.
#5021 [21:46] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> thank you
#5022 [21:46] <Cial> oh damn bot beat me to it
#5023 [21:46] <mbentley> np
#5024 [21:47] <Boreeas> !ping
#5025 [21:47] <crickets> Boreeas Your Ping time was 0.34 Seconds.
#5026 [21:47] <Raikuron> !help
#5027 [21:47] <Raikuron> !help paid
#5028 [21:47] <Raikuron> ...
#5029 [21:47] <i81u812> so did the track glitch get fixed?
#5030 [21:47] <ftw> !ping
#5031 [21:47] <Raikuron> Well, that wasn't very useful.
#5032 [21:47] <Kealper> not that cool of a help command
#5033 [21:47] <Kealper> simple module is simple
#5034 [21:47] <Boreeas> !paid Boreeas
#5035 [21:47] <mbentley> Raikuron: more like you didn't do it right
#5036 [21:47] <mbentley> :)
#5037 [21:47] <i81u812> !8ball
#5038 [21:47] <crickets> You will have to wait.
#5039 [21:47] <Boreeas> Oh, I did?
#5040 [21:47] <Boreeas> :P
#5041 [21:47] <Raikuron> !tutorial
#5042 [21:48] <Boreeas> !serverfaq
#5043 [21:48] <Raikuron> Gee, this bot is the most useful thing I've ever come across ever.
#5044 [21:48] <netherian> haha
#5045 [21:48] * Kealper sighs
#5045 [21:48] <Raikuron> Looks like I'll have to rely on the community...
#5046 [21:48] <Raikuron> First off, is cursing allowed?
#5047 [21:48] <Boreeas> !check 66.220.229.113
#5048 [21:48] <netherian> !check 75.31.193.152
#5049 [21:49] <Boreeas> ...
#5050 [21:49] <Kealper> Raikuron: yes, in moderation, check our channel rules
#5051 [21:49] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> lol
#5052 [21:49] <Raikuron> How?
#5053 [21:49] <Boreeas> !check 127.0.0.2
#5054 [21:49] <Raikuron> !check 127.0.0.1
#5055 [21:49] <netherian> !check 75.31.193.152:25565
#5056 [21:49] <Raikuron> Damn, you beat me to it.
#5057 [21:49] <mbentley> read the topic?
#5058 [21:49] <Boreeas> But I got a typo in it
#5059 [21:49] <Kealper> in the channel topic or by seeing what AuBot sent you on join
#5060 [21:49] <Raikuron> What topic?
#5061 [21:49] <mbentley> /topic
#5062 [21:49] <Boreeas> !motd
#5063 [21:49] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> !check 76.74.159.41
#5064 [21:49] <Raikuron> Oh.
#5065 [21:50] <Raikuron> I thought you meant a forum thread.
#5066 [21:50] <Boreeas> !check 127.0.0.1
#5067 [21:50] <netherian> ohhh
#5068 [21:50] <netherian> uh
#5069 [21:50] <Boreeas> Yeah, right
#5070 [21:50] <netherian> for a server
#5071 [21:50] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> lol
#5072 [21:50] <Boreeas> Failbot fails
#5073 [21:50] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> !check 76.74.159.41:26165
#5074 [21:50] <Kealper> it doesn't fail, it's hitting my server when you do localhost
#5075 [21:50] <netherian> do you need to add your ip to the property file?
#5076 [21:50] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> not quite sir
#5077 [21:50] <mbentley> don't abuse the bot...
#5078 [21:50] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> the bot is broken,..
#5079 [21:50] <mbentley> he has feelings too :(
#5080 [21:51] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> i spit on it
#5081 [21:51] <Kealper> mbentley: i'm adding you to that module
#5082 [21:51] <Boreeas> I hassssssss feelingssss too. I wanna have a hug
#5083 [21:51] <Kealper> fail
#5084 [21:51] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> now my game just crashes...
#5085 [21:51] <Kealper> that module's auth list
#5086 [21:51] <Kealper> so you can disable/enable the commands if the nubs get spamy
#5087 [21:51] <mbentley> good deal
#5088 [21:51] <mbentley> thx
#5089 [21:52] <i81u812> but you should really get the 8ball script.... itll help anwser questions
#5090 [21:52] <mbentley> 8ball could help with port forwarding issues
#5091 [21:52] <Kealper> uhh....i'm not sure you understaind what aubot is....
#5092 [21:52] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> hey i have a question
#5093 [21:52] <ziggo0> 8ball - why is mah server down? Ask again later.
#5094 [21:52] <Kealper> understand*
#5095 [21:52] <netherian> guys... do you need to add your external ip to the server poroperties file?
#5096 [21:52] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> my brightness is at max and when my friends go into caves they can see everything but i cant see JACKS**T
#5097 [21:53] <mbentley> netherian: no
#5098 [21:53] <i81u812> !8ball is the track fixed yet..... response: what do I look like Dill
#5099 [21:53] <crickets> It is certain, i81u812.
#5100 [21:53] <mbentley> it is typically best the leave it blank
#5101 [21:53] <Kealper> netherian: no, don't fill anything in there
#5102 [21:53] <netherian> wonder why mine is not working...
#5103 [21:53] <netherian> oh well
#5104 [21:53] <netherian> so it should say
#5105 [21:53] <Kealper> !8ball Does GreyVulpine have too many useless scripts on you?
#5106 [21:53] <crickets> Probably Kealper
#5107 [21:53] <Kealper> thought so.
#5108 [21:53] <netherian> starting minecraft server *:25565 (or whatever)
#5109 [21:54] <netherian> in the gui thing
#5110 [21:54] <netherian> ?
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#5112 [21:54] <i81u812> anyways ill take that as a no on the track glitch ... you mean ill have to walk to my mine...
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#5114 [21:54] <netherian> knock knock
#5115 [21:55] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#5116 [21:55] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> kealper
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#5119 [21:55] <Kealper> ok, added a few of the *trusted* regulars on it
#5120 [21:55] <Kealper> yessir?
#5121 [21:55] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> my brightness is at max and when my friends go into caves they can see everything but i cant see JACKS**T
#5122 [21:55] <Raikuron> Did Minecraft really get DDoS'd?
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#5124 [21:56] <Boreeas> Can I blend out the join/part messages somehow (In IRC)?
#5125 [21:56] <Kopimi> Hello again. I'm having a problem with my server. I've got the server running on my machine locally. I can connect to it via "localhost". When my friends try to connect it, their name, and sprite show up in game and in console. But, they are frozen in the air, and their client is frozen at "Logging in", and eventually it times out. let me add, all ports are open and verified externally
#5126 [21:56] <Kealper> prodigy|gFx[CEO: might be your gamma settings on your graphics card?
#5127 [21:56] <mbentley> Boreeas: yes, depends on your client i believe
#5128 [21:56] <xales> Kopimi: Can you connect using the IP you gave your friend?
#5129 [21:56] <Kopimi> I do not think so, no
#5130 [21:57] <Kopimi> Im going to go try
#5131 [21:57] <Ubertastic> sigh
#5132 [21:57] <Boreeas> mbentley, you what command that is / is there an in-IRC command list?
#5133 [21:57] <dolanm9> prodigy|gFx[CEO: are you and your friends using the same texture packs?
#5134 [21:57] <Kopimi> yes
#5135 [21:57] <prodigy|gFx[CEO> yes we are
#5136 [21:57] <Ubertastic> The regular rep one would use to install the JRE on Linux is down...
#5137 [21:58] <xales> Ubertastic: use a mirror?
#5138 [21:58] <xales> also, Ubuntu I am assuming?
#5139 [21:58] <Ubertastic> xales: Indeed, I'm looking for a mirror now
#5140 [21:58] <xales> Kopimi: so you can connect to your IP?
#5141 [21:58] <xales> external* without an issue?
#5142 [21:59] <Kopimi> I cannot connect to my server with my IP, no
#5143 [21:59] * Kealper looks at the time
#5143 [21:59] <Kealper> bed time for me :/
#5144 [21:59] <Kealper> been going to sleep early lately
#5145 [21:59] <xales> Kopimi: Do you get an error or the same problem as your friend?
#5146 [21:59] <xales> Kealper: D:
#5147 [21:59] <Kopimi> it locks up at Connecting to server.
#5148 [21:59] <Kopimi> do I need to list the port if its 25565
#5149 [21:59] <mbentley> Ubertastic: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
#5150 [22:00] <Kealper> but meh, it lets me wake up at like 5-6am and pull the graveyard shift in here without the graveyard lol
#5151 [22:00] <Ubertastic> canonical is down I believe
#5152 [22:00] * prodigy|gFx[CEO wishes goodnight to kealper
#5152 [22:00] <cfdpipeman> Having a problem with my local server. After the update it appears my world has changed and I can't find our things that we built? any suggestions?
#5153 [22:00] <xales> Kopimi: nope
#5154 [22:00] <Shadow386> xales
#5155 [22:00] <xales> Shadow386
#5156 [22:00] <mbentley> i just did an aptitude update just fine...
#5157 [22:00] <Shadow386> do you know how to set up mirc so it pings you when someone says something specific?
#5158 [22:00] <Ubertastic> I think I'm crazy
#5159 [22:00] <xales> cfdpipeman: Exactly what steps did you take to update it?
#5160 [22:00] <Ubertastic> sec
#5161 [22:01] <mbentley> Shadow386: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=mirc+highlight&cp=6&pf=p&sclient=psy&safe=off&aq=0&aqi=&aql=&oq=mirc+h&pbx=1&fp=f478bdfafcb0c911
#5162 [22:01] <Shadow386> >.>
#5163 [22:01] <mbentley> mirc highlight
#5164 [22:01] <cfdpipeman> I didn't do anything to the server but some of the updates are in there like new trees and such
#5165 [22:02] <Kopimi> what would my next step be?
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#5167 [22:02] <Kopimi> I added firewall exceptions both TCP and UDP
#5168 [22:02] <Kopimi> as well as ports forwarded, again both TCP and UDP
#5169 [22:02] <xales> cfdpipeman: If you didn't update the server, then it is not up to date
#5170 [22:02] <xales> Kopimi: Try turning the firewall completely off
#5171 [22:03] <cfdpipeman> xales: Can you point me to the updated server files? This will be the first time I've had to update.
#5172 [22:03] <cfdpipeman> Sorry for the newbie question.
#5173 [22:03] <mbentley> !server
#5174 [22:03] <xales> cfdpipeman: Do you run the server yourself, or pay someone to run it
#5175 [22:04] <cfdpipeman> I run it with a VM of MineOS
#5176 [22:04] <lyude> Wait
#5177 [22:04] <lyude> There's a minecraft OS
#5178 [22:04] <lyude> What is this
#5179 [22:04] <mbentley> yeah, dedicated minecraft os
#5180 [22:04] <xales> cfdpipeman: We can't really support MineOS :/
#5181 [22:04] <lyude> Does it give better minecraft performance?
#5182 [22:04] <lyude> And what kinda kernel does it use
#5183 [22:04] <cfdpipeman> I think it does.
#5184 [22:04] <xales> lyude: Supposedly. I don't think it would be massively different than just a ramdisk
#5185 [22:05] <xales> also, Linux kernel
#5186 [22:05] <lyude> ah
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#5188 [22:05] <xales> one of the minimalist builds
#5189 [22:05] <aetherian> hey uh
#5190 [22:05] <cfdpipeman> I can just run it on windows. I'll use the link above.
#5191 [22:05] <ftw> I just installed a stock Ubuntu and ran the minecraft_server.jar in a user directory. Worked for me.
#5192 [22:05] <aetherian> what's a good open port checking tool?
#5193 [22:05] <Kopimi> firewall was complely off, no dice. I still cannot connect via my external IP
#5194 [22:05] <xales> aetherian: No such thing. "Open port check" is just a ping
#5195 [22:05] <aetherian> uhh
#5196 [22:06] <aetherian> >.>
#5197 [22:06] <aetherian> nevermind
#5198 [22:06] <xales> Kopimi: Are you on wifi by any chance?
#5199 [22:06] <Kopimi> nope, hard wired
#5200 [22:06] <Kopimi> if it helps, my friend is getting an " internal exeption: java.net.socketexception" error
#5201 [22:07] <dolanm9> ok guys, thanks much for your help, im out
#5202 [22:07] <xales> Kopimi: What IP are you trying to use (external)
#5203 [22:08] <xales> !check 98.144.117.39
#5204 [22:08] <xales> Kopimi: It should be working...hrm
#5205 [22:08] <xales> Server is up to date, right
#5206 [22:08] <Kopimi> just downloaded it an hour ago
#5207 [22:08] <Kopimi> again
#5208 [22:09] <xales> The EXE, right?
#5209 [22:09] <Kopimi> correct
#5210 [22:09] <Kopimi> I've tried the straight java file as well
#5211 [22:10] <xales> Windows 7?
#5212 [22:10] <Kopimi> yes
#5213 [22:10] <xales> hmm
#5214 [22:10] <xales> and I already asked you about RAM/CPU, right
#5215 [22:10] <Kopimi> I've got a Quad core AMD with 4GB
#5216 [22:11] <xales> Do you have any other software running (Antivirus or firewall type thing)?
#5217 [22:11] <Kopimi> just MSE and Windows Firewall
#5218 [22:11] <xales> Turn windows firewall off
#5219 [22:11] <xales> it does next to nothing
#5220 [22:11] <xales> except cause problems
#5221 [22:11] <i81u812> so yeah the dispenser would be awesome if you were trying to recreate indiana jones and the temple of doom....
#5222 [22:12] <Kopimi> alright, firewall is off
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#5224 [22:12] <kerromatic> sup guys
#5225 [22:12] <kerromatic> i have a quick question about MC
#5226 [22:13] <xales> go ahead and ask
#5227 [22:13] <kerromatic> i usually start out get myself underground and a nice little space to call home for a bit.
#5228 [22:13] <kerromatic> when it turns dark i hide naturally...
#5229 [22:13] <kerromatic> but whenever i go back out
#5230 [22:13] <kerromatic> its daytime and I STILL see zombies and stuff
#5231 [22:13] <kerromatic> is that normal?
#5232 [22:13] <mbentley> yes
#5233 [22:13] <mbentley> not all of them die in the sunlight
#5234 [22:13] <kerromatic> ahhh
#5235 [22:14] <kerromatic> yeah because I catch some lingering around after sunlight
#5236 [22:14] <kerromatic> and i figured they all die off after nightime
#5237 [22:14] <kerromatic> =\
#5238 [22:14] <kerromatic> hehe
#5239 [22:14] <kerromatic> either way
#5240 [22:14] <kerromatic> friggin awesome game
#5241 [22:14] <Kopimi> firewall is off, what should my next step be?
#5242 [22:14] <i81u812> so does my current map get altered by the update or does it need to render more map for changes to appear.. i.e. if I go into a previously visited mine will some of the blocks be changed?
#5243 [22:15] <xales> Kopimi: Did you test it yet?
#5244 [22:15] <Kopimi> With the firewall off, yes. same thing
#5245 [22:15] <xales> i81u812: The current map won't update, you may need a whole new world
#5246 [22:15] <xales> Kopimi: Do you see anything in the server console?
#5247 [22:15] <i81u812> wont.. but it made the track glitch...
#5248 [22:15] <Kopimi> yes
#5249 [22:15] <i81u812> Im not arguging im just saying
#5250 [22:15] <Kopimi> I can see when people try to connect
#5251 [22:16] <xales> Kopimi: do you see any errors or a disconnect reason
#5252 [22:16] <Kopimi> soandso lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#5253 [22:16] <Ubertastic> xales: I know this isnt the Ubuntu IRC, but I was manually installing Java6 bin and Java6 jre manually, but both have the dependency of eachother and I am unable to install without the other already being installed...
#5254 [22:16] <Kopimi> thats when it errors out
#5255 [22:17] <xales> Ubertastic: Don't manually install it. This is a bad idea
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#5258 [22:17] <Ubertastic> via Package installer that is
#5259 [22:17] <xales> Kopimi: Do you happen to have an Aetheros NIC?
#5260 [22:17] <xales> Ubertastic: Eh, if you have a circular dependency in APT...
#5261 [22:17] <xales> well, that shouldn't happen
#5262 [22:17] <xales> try a different mirror? :/
#5263 [22:18] <Kopimi> yes I do
#5264 [22:18] <mbentley> that is messed up... never heard of a circular dep in apt
#5265 [22:18] <xales> ^
#5266 [22:18] <xales> I think the way the repositories are, it will actually break if you do
#5267 [22:18] <Kopimi> Aetheros gives us problems with our work's wireless auth
#5268 [22:18] <xales> Kopimi: That is the issue
#5269 [22:18] <xales> Aetheros doesn't cooperate with Windows
#5270 [22:18] <Kopimi> drat
#5271 [22:19] <Kopimi> Well xales thanks for the help
#5272 [22:19] <Kopimi> if I had a comment card for you, i'd fill it out
#5273 [22:19] <xales> Kopimi: You could always try dual-booting to Linux :/
#5274 [22:19] <Kopimi> I used to have a ubuntu distro installed. I might give it another shot
#5275 [22:19] <xales> Kopimi: No such thing, this is community support :(
#5276 [22:19] <Kopimi> Grub messed up my OS's when I updated last time
#5277 [22:20] <mbentley> might try an 'apt-get update' if it isn't working...
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#5279 [22:20] <xales> mbentley: the package manager would do that automatically I hope
#5280 [22:20] <xales> also, try apt-get install aptitude
#5281 [22:20] <Uz|BFBC2> Hey guys, I need some help.
#5282 [22:20] <xales> it may be able to find a resolution to th dependency
#5283 [22:20] <xales> Uz|BFBC2: with?
#5284 [22:20] <mbentley> <3 aptitude for serious
#5285 [22:21] <Uz|BFBC2> I need to make some sort of redstone circuit that will toggle on and off after 4 seconds.
#5286 [22:21] <xales> mbentley: except when it decides to become retarded and give you a score of like -9999 and ask you to uninstall half of your system that conflicts with an optional package. lulz
#5287 [22:21] <mbentley> sounds totally legit
#5288 [22:21] <mbentley> Y
#5289 [22:21] <xales> Uz|BFBC2: Look up clock circuits on minecraftwiki.net
#5290 [22:21] <mbentley> :D
#5291 [22:21] <nipper> Anyone else having issues with minecart tracks now laying down like there spose to? (This is with the new update)
#5292 [22:21] <Uz|BFBC2> I know about clock circuits.
#5293 [22:21] <xales> mbentley: I had that happen once, but it was because I had installed a library from testing
#5294 [22:22] <nipper> I mean not
#5295 [22:22] <mbentley> ah
#5296 [22:22] <xales> nipper: Known bug
#5297 [22:22] <mbentley> xales: using backports?
#5298 [22:22] <Uz|BFBC2> I want one that has an output that changes after 4 seconds continuously.
#5299 [22:22] <mbentley> or did you just add the testing repo?
#5300 [22:22] <nipper> When using hey0 i did not have the issue kind of odd
#5301 [22:22] <xales> mbentley: no, I just added testing
#5302 [22:22] <xales> I can't remember what it was I installed
#5303 [22:22] <mbentley> lol ah
#5304 [22:22] <mbentley> that could do it if it was something major
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#5306 [22:23] <xales> nipper: Its a problem with the new update. Not a mod
#5307 [22:23] <nipper> kk
#5308 [22:23] <xales> Uz|BFBC2: I don't know off the top of my head any easy way to do that without spending excessive time mapping it
#5309 [22:23] <Uz|BFBC2> I'm trying out the new note blocks. I've got a 4-clock running that powers the percussion. What I want is for it to play the same piano note 4 times, then play another piano note 4 times, and repeat.
#5310 [22:24] <xales> I can't help you there, sorry :/
#5311 [22:24] <Uz|BFBC2> Mhmm.
#5312 [22:24] <mbentley> next thing will be full songs in minecraft...
#5313 [22:24] <xales> Try mapping it out in the redstone mapping thing (I forgot the name) maybe?
#5314 [22:24] <Uz|BFBC2> Heh, I'm trying.
#5315 [22:24] <mbentley> can't wait
#5316 [22:24] <Uz|BFBC2> Redstone Sim?
#5317 [22:25] <xales> I think thats the name
#5318 [22:25] <Uz|BFBC2> I was thinking have a minecart track that contantly goes around a track in 4 seconds, flicking a switch every time it does.
#5319 [22:25] <Uz|BFBC2> But Minecarts are screwed, so...
#5320 [22:25] <xales> No easy way to do that
#5321 [22:26] <xales> easier with a clock circuit methinks
#5322 [22:26] <mbentley> ^+1
#5323 [22:26] <Uz|BFBC2> A clock circuit that has a 4 second output?
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#5325 [22:26] <mbentley> just guessing though
#5326 [22:27] <Universezero> Hmm.
#5327 [22:27] <mbentley> i am certainly no redstone expert :)
#5328 [22:28] <Universezero> Maybe a Monostable Circuit with a 4 second turn off?
#5329 [22:29] <Ubertastic> sudo apt-get update helped....should have done sooner
#5330 [22:29] <mbentley> yay
#5331 [22:29] * GreyVulpine bwahs
#5331 [22:30] <mbentley> sometimes i find that i catch packages in an odd state when my system updates and it causes issues like that
#5332 [22:30] <Ubertastic> exactly what happened to me
#5333 [22:30] <Ubertastic> now how do I get the server up
#5334 [22:31] <xales> you have sun java installed now?
#5335 [22:31] <Ubertastic> Yep
#5336 [22:31] <xales> run "java -version" just to make sure its in-place and the proper JVM
#5337 [22:31] <Ubertastic> 1.6.0_22
#5338 [22:32] <xales> what is the entire second line
#5339 [22:32] <xales> it should include the JVM version/name
#5340 [22:32] <Ubertastic> Indeed it is
#5341 [22:33] <xales> Paste it?
#5342 [22:33] <xales> :/
#5343 [22:33] <Ubertastic> on my laptop
#5344 [22:33] <Ubertastic> mmm
#5345 [22:33] <Ubertastic> sec
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#5348 [22:35] <skippydippy> Since the update, my private minecraft server has been extremely laggy for my players. It's just a little laggy for my, which it never is. They are unable to play. Any suggestions?, I have updated the minecraft_server.exe file with the one on the site already. But still isn't fixed.
#5349 [22:36] <xales> skippydippy: using any mods?
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#5351 [22:36] <uber2> There we go
#5352 [22:36] <skippydippy> No mods.
#5353 [22:36] <xales> What are the specs of the server?
#5354 [22:37] <uber2> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)
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#5356 [22:37] <xales> second line
#5357 [22:37] <xales> :/
#5358 [22:37] <skippydippy> Phenom II X2 3.2ghz, 4gb ram, windows 7 32bit.
#5359 [22:38] <uber2> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode) ?
#5360 [22:38] <mbentley> that's definitely jre
#5361 [22:38] <mbentley> oracle/sun
#5362 [22:38] <skippydippy> The server functioned before without issue. Only after the latest update did it start causing problems.
#5363 [22:39] <Ubertastic> Gotta run for a few minutes, I'll be back. Atleast Java is installed now.
#5364 [22:39] <xales> skippydippy: Open task manager. Is it using a large amount of memory or CPU?
#5365 [22:39] <xales> mbentley: Does win7 32 enable PAE by default?
#5366 [22:39] <skippydippy> using a fair amount of memory.
#5367 [22:40] <dopeghoti> xales: no
#5368 [22:40] <mbentley> hmm, not sure. i've never used win7 32 bit
#5369 [22:40] <dopeghoti> xales: in fact, in Win7 home (and even pro), you cannot enable PAE on 32-bit anymore
#5370 [22:40] <xales> skippydippy: How much, exactly? Also, your on 32 bit so only about 3.5 GB will be available to you
#5371 [22:40] <mbentley> well i take that back... just not extensively
#5372 [22:40] <xales> dopeghoti: That is just stupid. Fucking microsoft D:
#5373 [22:40] <dopeghoti> indeed
#5374 [22:40] <skippydippy> it was cheaper to throw in the 4gb ;) lol. Let me check, one sec.
#5375 [22:41] <skippydippy> about .5gb
#5376 [22:41] <skippydippy> a little over.
#5377 [22:41] <xales> How much free memory?
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#5379 [22:42] <xales> notice, FREE, not AVAILABLE
#5380 [22:42] <skippydippy> 0 lol
#5381 [22:42] <skippydippy> no wait, 13mb!
#5382 [22:42] <xales> There is the problem then
#5383 [22:42] <xales> Its swapping
#5384 [22:42] <xales> Restart computer, make sure absolutely bare minimum is running (no firewall, no antivirus, nothing) and then try
#5385 [22:43] <skippydippy> I did that already. Restarted the whole network.
#5386 [22:43] <xales> What else do you have running?
#5387 [22:43] <xales> Open the "processes" tab, and sort by memory usage
#5388 [22:43] <skippydippy> Now? or after restart?
#5389 [22:43] <xales> and what are the top 3 there
#5390 [22:43] <xales> Now
#5391 [22:43] <skippydippy> now I have just about everything open lol
#5392 [22:43] <xales> well, close it :/
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#5394 [22:44] <skippydippy> =P It doesn't solve anything, upon restart, I attempted to keep everything off, my players still experienced the lag. Let me restart the network again and check the RAM on startup.
#5395 [22:44] <skippydippy> brb.
#5396 [22:44] <aeyrep00155> hey need help any can help me?
#5397 [22:44] <xales> aeyrep00155: what do you need help with?
#5398 [22:44] <aeyrep00155> i cant get onto a server
#5399 [22:45] <xales> do you get an error?
#5400 [22:45] <aeyrep00155> i could yesterday
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#5402 [22:45] <aeyrep00155> but now it wont let me connect
#5403 [22:45] <xales> many server are currently offline because of the update
#5404 [22:45] <aeyrep00155> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#5405 [22:45] <aeyrep00155> ty
#5406 [22:45] <aeyrep00155> will this be fixed soon?
#5407 [22:45] <Valium> it's not broken?
#5408 [22:45] <Valium> no wait..
#5409 [22:46] <Valium> it's not broken
#5410 [22:46] <aeyrep00155> then y r severs off line?
#5411 [22:46] <Valium> thats a statement
#5412 [22:46] <Valium> derp, they need to update
#5413 [22:46] <xales> they are offline because the people running choose them to be off
#5414 [22:46] <xales> they will come on when the server admins turn them back on
#5415 [22:46] <aeyrep00155> oh so the server admen dint update it yet?
#5416 [22:46] <aeyrep00155> oh ok
#5417 [22:46] <Valium> I updated mine straight away like a resposible server admin
#5418 [22:46] <KillSpammer> Go valim!
#5419 [22:46] <aeyrep00155> lol
#5420 [22:47] <KillSpammer> Valium*
#5421 [22:47] <Valium> _resposible_ :)
#5422 [22:47] * KillSpammer gives Valium and cookie, now with extra cookie!
#5422 [22:47] <Valium> no. want cake.
#5423 [22:47] * KillSpammer now after reaching level 60 on his warlock, goes to play CS:S
#5423 [22:47] <aeyrep00155> so it saying "connection has timed out" is normal?
#5424 [22:48] <KillSpammer> For now aeyrep00155
#5425 [22:48] <KillSpammer> Since most servers haven't updated.
#5426 [22:48] <xales> Valium: some don't update because of no hmod
#5427 [22:48] <aeyrep00155> ok ty that is all
#5428 [22:48] <xales> or don't bring them online, anyway
#5429 [22:48] <KillSpammer> Pussys...
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#5431 [22:48] <Valium> I knew that there wouldn't be hMOD, and warned my players of it
#5432 [22:48] <KillSpammer> Oh noez a griefer mite cmon
#5433 [22:48] <xales> Oh noez, I can /ban them
#5434 [22:48] <xales> trololololol
#5435 [22:48] <Valium> but I would rather have people be able to connect
#5436 [22:49] <KillSpammer> Oh noez my mod won't auto maticly stopz tem
#5437 [22:49] <KillSpammer> Halp me!
#5438 [22:49] <KillSpammer> beep.
#5439 [22:49] <KillSpammer> Ok ima gone to CS:S
#5440 [22:49] <Valium> meep
#5441 [22:51] <KillSpammer> Ok
#5442 [22:51] <Universezero> Right, I've tinkered with some clock generators, and I think I have it.
#5443 [22:51] <Universezero> Now I need some sort of switch.
#5444 [22:51] <Universezero> It's kind of hard to describe.
#5445 [22:51] <xales> Like a lever? :/
#5446 [22:51] <Universezero> Not really.
#5447 [22:52] <Universezero> I need an automatic one.
#5448 [22:52] <Universezero> Okay, lets go bit by bit.
#5449 [22:52] <xales> An automatic switch for an automatic circuit? :/
#5450 [22:52] <Universezero> First, I've got an input from the clock. It turns on every 3/4 seconds, then off after another3/4 seconds.
#5451 [22:53] <Universezero> Now, I've got two outputs.
#5452 [22:53] <Universezero> Then both toggle on and off every 1 second.
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#5454 [22:53] <Jo> hi there if I ge: Internal exception: java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 0
#5455 [22:53] <Universezero> Lets call them outputs K and J.
#5456 [22:54] <Universezero> The input is A.
#5457 [22:54] <mbentley> Jo: the server you are trying to connect to hasn't been updated
#5458 [22:54] <Jo> thank you very much
#5459 [22:54] <mbentley> np
#5460 [22:54] <Universezero> When A is on, J is toggling and K is off.
#5461 [22:54] <Universezero> When A is off, K is toggling and J is off.
#5462 [22:55] <Universezero> How do this can I?
#5463 [22:55] <dopeghoti> pretty simple
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#5465 [22:56] <Universezero> ...go on.
#5466 [22:56] <dopeghoti> though hard to diagram without.. diagrams ;0
#5467 [22:56] <dopeghoti> ;) rather
#5468 [22:56] <dopeghoti> but basically you have A toggling a RS NOR latch
#5469 [22:56] <dopeghoti> and the output of that determines which of J and K are toggling and off.
#5470 [22:57] <Universezero> So, what part of the RS NOR latch should A be toggling?
#5471 [22:57] <Universezero> S?
#5472 [22:58] <DopeGhoti> A would be the input of the RS NOR
#5473 [22:58] <Universezero> ok
#5474 [22:58] <DopeGhoti> forgive me, I'm still getting used to modern terminology. Intil recently, that'd've been phrased as "single-input flip-flop'
#5475 [22:58] <Universezero> And then have A! connected to the reset
#5476 [22:58] <Universezero> A to S, A! to R. Correct?
#5477 [22:58] <DopeGhoti> sounds right
#5478 [22:59] <Universezero> What about J and K?
#5479 [22:59] <DopeGhoti> J would be ANDed to Q, and K to ~Q
#5480 [23:00] <DopeGhoti> so with the latch in one state, J would be getting input from the timer and the latch, and K would not be getting input from the latch, and would therefore be off
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#5482 [23:00] <DopeGhoti> and vice versa
#5483 [23:01] <DopeGhoti> clear as mud, no? :)
#5484 [23:01] <Universezero> Ah! I get it! Thanks, that really helps.
#5485 [23:01] <DopeGhoti> anytime
#5486 [23:01] <Universezero> Hehehe.
#5487 [23:01] <Universezero> Just one thing; is the RS NOR latch needed?
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#5489 [23:01] * DopeGhoti wasted countless hours with logic-gate circuit games as a kid
#5489 [23:02] <DopeGhoti> and now gets to do the same as an adult! Thanks, Notch! :)
#5490 [23:02] <Universezero> Could you just have A splitting, one of them inverted?
#5491 [23:02] <DopeGhoti> That depends on if A is a stateful input, or a toggling pulse
#5492 [23:02] <DopeGhoti> (e. g. switch or button)
#5493 [23:02] <skippydippy> Just wanted to say thank you Xales. I restarted the network but did a double check and noticed that firefox was using 50% of my CPU, even when it wasn't active. I disabled some java addons that were enable through it and that has reduced my load to bout 5% idle. I'm going to take a stab and guess that was my problem.
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#5495 [23:03] <Universezero> It's neither. It's a gigantic clock generator that turns on and off after 4 seconds.
#5496 [23:03] <skippydippy> Just need to get some of my players in to test it out and be sure.
#5497 [23:03] <xales> skippydippy: You are quite welcome. Good luck
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#5499 [23:04] <xales> Ouch DopeGhoti, don't finger me D:
#5500 [23:04] <xales> also, I have finger disabled. :D
#5501 [23:04] <DopeGhoti> You did it first!
#5502 [23:05] <mbentley> heh
#5503 [23:05] <DopeGhoti> and you don't know what you're missing ;)
#5504 [23:05] <DopeGhoti> (you probably do)
#5505 [23:05] <DopeGhoti> TODO: resume writing entertaining .plan files
#5506 [23:05] <xales> oh, best .plan file
#5507 [23:06] <xales> cat the entire man directory into one file
#5508 [23:06] <xales> hehehehehehehehe
#5509 [23:06] <DopeGhoti> why do that when you could just symlink it to /dev/urandom?
#5510 [23:06] <xales> that too
#5511 [23:06] <xales> would finger follow a symlink though?
#5512 [23:06] <DopeGhoti> or /dev/dsp: let people read what you're listening to :)
#5513 [23:07] <xales> lol
#5514 [23:08] <lemon-rev> wtf a bone ?
#5515 [23:09] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: In the quiet words of the virgin, Mary: "come again?"
#5516 [23:09] <mbentley> /dev/null
#5517 [23:09] <lemon-rev> hahahahhaha
#5518 [23:09] <lemon-rev> i found bones in mc
#5519 [23:09] <lemon-rev> im like wtf
#5520 [23:09] <DopeGhoti> Ah. Yes.
#5521 [23:09] <DopeGhoti> Those are new.
#5522 [23:09] <lemon-rev> i sorta figered that, what they off the zombies or the undead
#5523 [23:09] <lemon-rev> lol
#5524 [23:09] <DopeGhoti> For use as a fertilizer or as a dye alteration ingredient.
#5525 [23:10] <lemon-rev> hm, bone, hum nice, i already have 2 shades of gray from sheep
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#5527 [23:18] <Ubertastic> back, now to get the server running via this nice jre from the minecraft site
#5528 [23:19] <DopeGhoti> Is there any other kind?
#5529 [23:20] <Universezero> Woo, it's done.
#5530 [23:20] <Universezero> And it's amazing.
#5531 [23:21] <Universezero> Now I need to video it. :S
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#5534 [23:23] <Diablothein> 'lo Reverend
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#5536 [23:24] <Rivade> I have a question about maintaining a private server.. Anyone here to answer?
#5537 [23:24] <xolotl> Rivade: Just go ahead and ask
#5538 [23:25] <Rivade> Basically, it's just for my roommates and myself. Just a LAN server. What I don't know is if I have to keep the server script I downloaded from the main website running at all times, or if I shut it and my computer down, if our progress in our current world will be deleted.
#5539 [23:26] <lemon-rev> ok when you want to run your server run it, and everyone can jump on
#5540 [23:26] <lemon-rev> it will auto save at the end when the server gets shut down
#5541 [23:26] <Rivade> So when I run the script again, it'll reload everything as it was when it was shut down?
#5542 [23:27] <xolotl> (it also autosaves periodically)
#5543 [23:27] <xolotl> Rivade: You'd do well to make sure it's shut down "properly"
#5544 [23:27] <lemon-rev> and its got a new directory near the server called world that will allow you to either keep it or kill it at will
#5545 [23:27] <Ubertastic> anyone know the terminal command in linux to check the local ip address?
#5546 [23:27] <Valium> ifconfig
#5547 [23:27] <xales> Rivade: if you run "save-all" in the console before shutting it down, there shouldn't be an issue
#5548 [23:27] <xolotl> Rivade: There's an init script somewhere on the wiki, if it's a Linux host. Otherwise just make sure to issue a "stop" before shutting it down
#5549 [23:27] <xales> Valium: fail
#5550 [23:27] <xales> oh, never mind
#5551 [23:27] <Valium> excuse me?
#5552 [23:27] <xales> I thought you typed it in the wrong windo
#5553 [23:27] <xales> w
#5554 [23:27] <xales> I didn't see a question
#5555 [23:27] <xolotl> xales: Oh, I'll snag that domain tomorrow btw
#5556 [23:27] <xolotl> xales: went afk for awhile. :)
#5557 [23:27] * xales has accidentally typed terminal commands into IRC
#5557 [23:28] <xales> xolotl: LOL, let me know when you do.
#5558 [23:28] <xolotl> will do
#5559 [23:28] <Valium> I typically send my MSN messages here
#5560 [23:29] * DopeGhoti has accidentally typed IRC commands in shells.
#5560 [23:29] <DopeGhoti> fortunately, no IRC commands start with /bin
#5561 [23:30] <xales> Quite fortunately
#5562 [23:30] <xales> I've come close to finish a (su -) in IRC D:
#5563 [23:30] <xales> finishing*
#5564 [23:30] <aetherian> mind if I use the check commans?
#5565 [23:30] <aetherian> command
#5566 [23:31] <lyude> I've typed my root password into irc by accident many times
#5567 [23:31] <aetherian> !check 75.31.193.152
#5568 [23:31] <DopeGhoti> lyude: why?!
#5569 [23:31] <lyude> !check lyude
#5570 [23:31] <aetherian> mmkay, thank you.
#5571 [23:31] <lyude> Accident
#5572 [23:31] <lyude> I am sure :C
#5573 [23:31] * lyude cries
#5573 [23:31] <aetherian> haha
#5574 [23:32] <DopeGhoti> no, why would you ever have to type your root password, I mean.
#5575 [23:32] <aetherian> finally got it up
#5576 [23:32] <aetherian> yes
#5577 [23:32] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: I'm sure she's delighted to hear that.
#5578 [23:32] <DopeGhoti> (or: that's what she said)
#5579 [23:32] <lyude> errr
#5580 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> <3 pulse gens and dispensers.
#5581 [23:32] <lyude> logging into stuff :P
#5582 [23:32] <Rivade> Are these Minecraft servers typical of how servers are run or totally different from others?
#5583 [23:32] <aetherian> I'm sure you are dopefish
#5584 [23:32] <DopeGhoti> I'm sure I am DopeGhoti too.
#5585 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Rivade - Say what?
#5586 [23:33] <DopeGhoti> "These servers" Which one are they?
#5587 [23:34] <aetherian> no, it's dopefish
#5588 [23:34] <xales> DopeGhoti: It probably isn't the best idea, but my laziness dictates that to SU to another user, I must first su to root to avoid having to open the password database
#5589 [23:34] <aetherian> >:
#5590 [23:35] <DopeGhoti> xales: sudo "su - $USER -c ${COMMAND}"
#5591 [23:35] <xales> DopeGhoti: I didn't look at sudo since I saw that it had more than on critical vulnerability in one year =/
#5592 [23:35] <DopeGhoti> So did OpenSSH; you still use that, no?
#5593 [23:36] <lyude> SSH <3
#5594 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> "Whoops, sorry Debian users, all your keys are belong to /pub/"
#5595 [23:36] <lyude> ^ wut
#5596 [23:36] <KillSpammer> Hmm...
#5597 [23:36] <KillSpammer> Beep
#5598 [23:36] <xales> meh
#5599 [23:37] <lyude> DopeGhoti, what do you mean?
#5600 [23:37] <xales> I may eventually one day bother with it, but I don't really need it
#5601 [23:37] <lyude> xales, it doesn't take too long
#5602 [23:37] <Ubertastic> well, blocks still reapear at spawnarea, but everything else looks ok so far
#5603 [23:37] <DopeGhoti> lyude: At one point, the Debian SSH package of OpenSSL had the equivelant of http://xkcd.com/221/ in it, causing public keys to be easily backtracked into the actual private keys.
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#5605 [23:37] <Ubertastic> now that linux is the host
#5606 [23:37] <xales> Ubertastic: they are supposed to - spawn protection
#5607 [23:38] <Ubertastic> Explain
#5608 [23:38] <lyude> So
#5609 [23:38] <lyude> All your keys were public
#5610 [23:38] <DopeGhoti> Ubertastic: if you want to con/destruct at spawn, make yourself an op
#5611 [23:38] <xales> DopeGhoti: nice XKCD quote, I enjoy using things from there in kick reasons (seems a popular-ish trend)
#5612 [23:38] <xales> or link, anyway
#5613 [23:39] <DopeGhoti> lyude: so, I could check a server's fingerprint, use it to generate an identical server host key, and successfully execute a MITM attack without getting flagged by mismatching peoples' known_hosts entries
#5614 [23:39] <DopeGhoti> I could read peoples' public keys and derive their private keys and SSH into their systems as themselves
#5615 [23:39] <DopeGhoti> This is A Bad Thing
#5616 [23:39] <lyude> oh
#5617 [23:40] <xales> DopeGhoti: I'm in your public keys deriving your private keys
#5618 [23:40] <lyude> I got it after you simplified it before the bad thing
#5619 [23:40] <lyude> wow
#5620 [23:40] <DopeGhoti> Worse than a problem with sudo, which requires that I already have shell access in the first place
#5621 [23:40] * Diablothein sighs
#5621 [23:40] <Diablothein> Time to look for a server
#5622 [23:40] <lyude> sudo doesn't still have any vulnarabilities
#5623 [23:40] <lyude> does it?
#5624 [23:40] <xales> Diablothein: as in the mincraft kind?
#5625 [23:40] <xales> smp.shadow-craft.net
#5626 [23:40] <Diablothein> mhm, looking to join
#5627 [23:40] <xales> :)
#5628 [23:40] <Diablothein> Whose is that.
#5629 [23:40] <DopeGhoti> !check ssp.shadow-craft.net
#5630 [23:40] <DopeGhoti> darn
#5631 [23:41] <DopeGhoti> that'd've been funny
#5632 [23:41] <xales> oh, sorry
#5633 [23:41] <xales> its Shadow386's
#5634 [23:41] <Shadow386> wut?
#5635 [23:41] <xales> Im reccomending your server again
#5636 [23:41] <xales> :P
#5637 [23:41] <Ubertastic> Well then
#5638 [23:41] <xales> DopeGhoti: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJi12O_pqSI
#5639 [23:41] <xales> make that for me
#5640 [23:42] <Shadow386> its smp.shadow-craft.net :P
#5641 [23:42] <Ubertastic> Thanks for all the help. Awesome IRC.
#5642 [23:42] <aetherian> lol, there was a natural brown mushroom on a tree
#5643 [23:42] <aetherian> that's not supposed to happen
#5644 [23:42] <Diablothein> Dudes, uhm, any clue how to keep random people from adding me on YiM?
#5645 [23:43] <lyude> Yahoo still exsists?
#5646 [23:43] <xales> lyude: Not really
#5647 [23:43] <Diablothein> ...
#5648 [23:43] <lyude> I've heard of them only from the stories of my forefathers
#5649 [23:43] <lyude> passed down to me from geneeration to generation
#5650 [23:43] <xales> Diablothein: uninstall it
#5651 [23:44] <lyude> Diablothein, sorry
#5652 [23:44] <lyude> I don't knowq
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#5654 [23:44] <lyude> I just can't stop myself from making jokes about yahoo
#5655 [23:44] <dfnkt> I have a question regarding SSP.
#5656 [23:44] <Diablothein> xales, I said to keep them from adding me, I didn't say I wanted to stop using it.
#5657 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> dfnkt - Ask.
#5658 [23:44] <dfnkt> Since the 1.2 update -- it seems that track laying is broken in SSP
#5659 [23:44] <dfnkt> anyone else experiencing this?
#5660 [23:44] <xales> if regex_match(product, "*yahoo*", CASE_INSENSITIVE) then product=shit, Diablothein
#5661 [23:44] <Diablothein> PLUS, I don't have it installed, using the webmessenger.
#5662 [23:44] <xales> dfnkt: known bug
#5663 [23:44] <lyude> ok ok guys
#5664 [23:44] <lyude> He didn't ask for criticism
#5665 [23:45] <lyude> He asked for a solution to his problem
#5666 [23:45] <dfnkt> xales: where can I find out a status of the bug, is it on the getsatisfaction page?
#5667 [23:45] <xales> dfnkt: I'm sure they already know of it, and there should be a bugfix either tomorrow or the day after that addresses some of the bugs
#5668 [23:45] <xales> I'll make sure they are aware though, since everyone seems to be having that bug
#5669 [23:45] <dfnkt> Thank you xales -- I'll wait for it.
#5670 [23:45] <xales> Diablothein: tried privacy settings? :/
#5671 [23:46] <dfnkt> yes my brother in law (who is not a forum goer or IRC person) is quite agitated over it -- that's just how he is.
#5672 [23:48] <Diablothein> There, that should do it.
#5673 [23:48] <DopeGhoti> The best YIM client is bitlbee.
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#5675 [23:49] * DopeGhoti blames Patze .
#5675 [23:49] * xales blames DopeGhoti for blaming Patze
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#5676 [23:50] <cheese_logs> hi anyone around?
#5677 [23:50] <cheese_logs> helloo?
#5678 [23:51] <xales> yes
#5679 [23:51] <cheese_logs> who do we ask for help?
#5680 [23:51] <xales> it helps to wait more than 60 seconds
#5681 [23:51] <xales> ._.
#5682 [23:51] <xales> cheese_logs: just ask the question
#5683 [23:51] <cheese_logs> i'm trying to run a server
#5684 [23:51] * DopeGhoti sets the topic to: Don't ask to ask; just ask!
#5684 [23:52] <cheese_logs> but when i run its really laggy for me and everyone else
#5685 [23:52] <DopeGhoti> cheese_logs: system specs?
#5686 [23:52] <cheese_logs> sometimes people just plain can't connect
#5687 [23:52] <cheese_logs> oh uhm
#5688 [23:52] <lyude> DopeGhoti, is it ok to ask to ask if I ask to ask to ask?
#5689 [23:52] <DopeGhoti> lyude: no.
#5690 [23:52] <lyude> k
#5691 [23:52] <DopeGhoti> \o
#5692 [23:52] <cheese_logs> quad core 3.4 GHz 4 gigs ram windows 7
#5693 [23:52] <cheese_logs> uhm
#5694 [23:53] <cheese_logs> what e;lse u need to know?
#5695 [23:53] <cheese_logs> else*
#5696 [23:53] <DopeGhoti> that's enough for now.
#5697 [23:53] <cheese_logs> k
#5698 [23:53] <DopeGhoti> are you running a server and client at the same time on the same machine?
#5699 [23:53] <cheese_logs> you mean runnign the server on my computer and playiogn off the same machine?
#5700 [23:53] <DopeGhoti> yes.
#5701 [23:53] <cheese_logs> then yes i am
#5702 [23:54] <Diablothein> Ghoti, I use the webmessenger, 'cause Empathy won't let me send text messages to cellphones.
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#5704 [23:54] <DopeGhoti> Diablothein: bitlbee isn't web-based.
#5705 [23:54] <DopeGhoti> cheese_logs: that may be the problem
#5706 [23:55] <cheese_logs> why on earth could this game use up full CPU?
#5707 [23:55] <DopeGhoti> cheese_logs: are they still getting issues if you _only_ run the server for them to connect to, and not a simultaneous client?
#5708 [23:55] <DopeGhoti> Because it's just out of Alpha and not yet remotely optimized?
#5709 [23:55] <cheese_logs> lol i suppose
#5710 [23:55] <cheese_logs> but uhm
#5711 [23:55] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: optimization is the _last_ phase of program development.
#5712 [23:55] <xales> DopeGhoti, Diablothein, youll love this. this guy keeps PMing me :/ http://darksigns.net/resinate.log
#5713 [23:56] <cheese_logs> yeh i dunno much about programming
#5714 [23:56] <aetherian> uhm, are reeds supposed to come naturally floating in the air by the water?
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#5716 [23:56] <DopeGhoti> floating? I'd say no
#5717 [23:56] <DopeGhoti> but I have seen floating cacti too
#5718 [23:56] <aetherian> hmm
#5719 [23:56] <cheese_logs> but the question u just asked i didn't understand
#5720 [23:56] <aetherian> I think it was invisible under it
#5721 [23:56] <cheese_logs> are they still getting issues if you _only_ run the server for them to connect to, and not a simultaneous client? (this)
#5722 [23:57] <xales> cheese_logs: yes, that is the question
#5723 [23:57] <cheese_logs> i didn't understand
#5724 [23:57] <DopeGhoti> cheese_logs: you said your friends are getting lag on your server
#5725 [23:57] <cheese_logs> yeh
#5726 [23:57] <DopeGhoti> if you _only_ run the server and not the client simultaneously, do they still get lag?
#5727 [23:57] <cheese_logs> i havn't tried honestly
#5728 [23:57] <xales> cheese_logs: do only your friends get lag, or you too?
#5729 [23:58] <DopeGhoti> cheese_logs: try.
#5730 [23:58] <cheese_logs> i get lag they get lag
#5731 [23:58] <cheese_logs> it's just lag gone wild
#5732 [23:58] <xales> ok, try only just the server
#5733 [23:58] <cheese_logs> mkay
#5734 [23:58] <cheese_logs> be a coupel secs k