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#2 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> Man, I remember my old stomping grounds.
#3 [00:02] * GreyVulpine is looking for music to convert to minecraft note blocks
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#4 [00:02] <NewDroidOrder> ok so when i try to play MC classic on the browser it flashes to the black minecraft screen, then goes white and stays white
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#6 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Try clearing your browser's cache
#7 [00:03] <NewDroidOrder> tried it
#8 [00:04] <xales> NewDroidOrder: try pausing Kasperspy again
#9 [00:05] <NewDroidOrder> alright
#10 [00:05] <Lasryth> 1.2_01 beta just crashed on multiplayer after hanging for a bit twice — where do I send the crash logs (max os x crash dumps) ?
#11 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> You don't send it anywhere, paste it at pastebin.com
#12 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Give us the link
#13 [00:05] <Lasryth> k
#14 [00:06] <NewDroidOrder> still happened
#15 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Is this something you can recreate on command?
#16 [00:06] <Lasryth> noticing 1.2_01 less stable, more jerky than 1.2 was
#17 [00:06] <xales> NewDroidOrder: Try it in internet explorer
#18 [00:06] <NewDroidOrder> ok
#19 [00:07] <NewDroidOrder> ew if i have to play this on IE ill kill myself
#20 [00:07] <NewDroidOrder> nope didnt work
#21 [00:07] <NewDroidOrder> and i got a nice little .txt file with error reports in it on my desktop
#22 [00:07] <xales> oh, thats good
#23 [00:07] <xales> put the contents of it on pastebin.com
#24 [00:07] <xales> and give us the link
#25 [00:07] <NewDroidOrder> um...
#26 [00:07] <NewDroidOrder> alright hold on
#27 [00:07] <NewDroidOrder> might need some guiding with that one. ill ask if i need it
#28 [00:07] <NewDroidOrder> gimme a sec
#29 [00:08] <carter> how do you get minecarts to move along a track
#30 [00:09] <carter> i push it and hop in and it goes like 10 feet
#31 [00:09] <xales> carter: you use something to power it
#32 [00:09] <xales> like a powered minecart or a booster
#33 [00:09] <NewDroidOrder> ok here u go
#34 [00:09] <NewDroidOrder> http://pastebin.com/tyYBJYL2
#35 [00:09] <carter> what do you use
#36 [00:09] <carter> its a preamde map
#37 [00:09] <carter> and it has a bunch of stuff in a box
#38 [00:09] <carter> flint?
#39 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> carter - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPls6LXlkGI
#40 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Best booster tutorial I've seen
#41 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Bob's minecart tutorials was what got me started
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#43 [00:10] <carter> thanks
#44 [00:10] <carter> ill check it out
#45 [00:11] <Lasryth> GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/Kx85xNkX
#46 [00:12] <xales> NewDroidOrder: Thats actually a common problem
#47 [00:12] <xales> you just need to update graphics card drivers
#48 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> Lasryth - Is this something you can do on command?
#49 [00:12] <Lasryth> ie is it repeatable?
#50 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#51 [00:13] <Lasryth> it has happened twice, usually within 10 minutes of realtime
#52 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> So, no...
#53 [00:13] <Lasryth> but I've only tried twice since upgrading to 1.2_01
#54 [00:13] <xales> When does it happen?
#55 [00:14] <Lasryth> no real rhyme or reason, just walking in the world
#56 [00:14] <Lasryth> then it hangs, then about 30-50 seconds later, crash
#57 [00:14] <xales> hmm, well, its doing a buffer swap...so...
#58 [00:14] <xales> what model of Mac is it?
#59 [00:15] <Lasryth> MBP early 09 17"
#60 [00:15] <xales> do you have anything other than Minecraft running when you try to run it?
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#62 [00:16] <Lasryth> firefox, an IRC client, a few standard background programs
#63 [00:17] <NewDroidOrder> ok im back i had to go make some food. so did anyone check out my pastebin>
#64 [00:17] <xales> NewDroidOrder: yeah, look up
#65 [00:18] <xales> Lasryth: "standard background programs"?
#66 [00:18] <Lasryth> istats menu, growl, caffeine, skype
#67 [00:18] <NewDroidOrder> ok but what if my graphics card drivers are already up to date
#68 [00:18] <xales> NewDroidOrder: how do you know they are?
#69 [00:19] <NewDroidOrder> because i keep them up. and i tried this serveral months ago and gave up
#70 [00:19] <NewDroidOrder> ill check though
#71 [00:19] <NewDroidOrder> cant hurt to
#72 [00:19] <xales> what graphics card is it, by the way
#73 [00:20] <NewDroidOrder> ATI HD5870
#74 [00:21] <Lasryth> xales: next time I play, I'll quit everything and see if it happens
#75 [00:21] <NewDroidOrder> yep my drivers are up to date
#76 [00:25] <NewDroidOrder> any other ideas
#77 [00:25] <xales> what are the other specs on your computer
#78 [00:25] <xales> RAM, CPU, etc
#79 [00:25] <NewDroidOrder> as in... can my computer handle MC?
#80 [00:26] <xales> pretty much, just want to double check. That card shouldn't have any issues though
#81 [00:27] <NewDroidOrder> i have all 7+ on my windows experience stats. except for the HDD. lol im too lazy to tell u it all
#82 [00:27] <NewDroidOrder> 6 gigs RAM i7 something
#83 [00:27] <xales> those "stats" are garbage >.>
#84 [00:27] <xales> but you should be fine
#85 [00:27] <NewDroidOrder> lol
#86 [00:27] <NewDroidOrder> 7.2 on all of them
#87 [00:28] <NewDroidOrder> i think im juuuuust fine
#88 [00:28] <xales> the problem is occuring when Minecraft asks the ATI driver about what pixel modes are supported
#89 [00:28] <xales> the ATI driver then proceeds to crash
#90 [00:28] <NewDroidOrder> i see
#91 [00:28] <NewDroidOrder> makes sense
#92 [00:28] <NewDroidOrder> ati is pretty crappy from what i have been noticing
#93 [00:28] <xales> yeah >.>
#94 [00:28] <NewDroidOrder> this is a pretty damn good card, but it just messes up a lot
#95 [00:29] <NewDroidOrder> making it, not good
#96 [00:29] <xales> hmm, in the catalyst control panel thing
#97 [00:29] <xales> do you have any options off of the defaults?
#98 [00:30] <NewDroidOrder> i dont believe ive messed with anything, no
#99 [00:31] <xales> what is your desktop resolution?
#100 [00:31] <NewDroidOrder> 1920x1080
#101 [00:32] <xales> Try rerunning it, so it makes another error report. I want to see if anything changes between them
#102 [00:33] <NewDroidOrder> im manually installing catalyst CC again
#103 [00:33] <NewDroidOrder> hold on
#104 [00:33] <NewDroidOrder> i was having some problems with it the other day, so im going to deal with that hopefully right now.
#105 [00:33] <NewDroidOrder> who knows this might be my problem
#106 [00:33] <NewDroidOrder> is the CCC
#107 [00:35] <xales> The .dll where the error occurs might be the one for the control center. I'm not sure what its named, but it fits =/
#108 [00:37] <NewDroidOrder> interesting
#109 [00:37] <NewDroidOrder> ok
#110 [00:37] <NewDroidOrder> think i should restart?
#111 [00:37] <xales> could try it
#112 [00:37] <xales> never know :/
#113 [00:38] <OODavo> Wait, you haven't tried restarting?
#114 [00:38] <NewDroidOrder> not yet
#115 [00:38] <OODavo> That's troubleshooting step number zero.
#116 [00:38] <NewDroidOrder> but my resolusion is all out of whack
#117 [00:39] <nipper> http://www.break.com/index/texting-girl-falls-in-mall-fountain-1984673
#118 [00:39] <NewDroidOrder> AH HA!
#119 [00:39] <NewDroidOrder> it works!
#120 [00:39] <NewDroidOrder> lol
#121 [00:39] <NewDroidOrder> niiice
#122 [00:40] <NewDroidOrder> oh, and DAMN u ATI and ur shitty CCC! well thanks for the help guys :D
#123 [00:40] <OODavo> :)
#124 [00:40] <xales> no problem. have fun
#125 [00:40] <OODavo> Wait, I didn't help at all here.
#126 [00:40] <OODavo> Thank xales instead.
#127 [00:41] <KillSpammer> LOl
#128 [00:41] <KillSpammer> Nipper: :)
#129 [00:41] <nipper> lol
#130 [00:45] <OODavo> /who #minecrafthelp
#131 [00:45] <xales> OODavo: fail?
#132 [00:45] <OODavo> Well, that failed.
#133 [00:46] <OODavo> HA I NINJA'D THE FAILING
#134 [00:46] * OODavo waits for someone to need help.
#134 [00:47] <KillSpammer> OMFG NINJA!~!!!!
#135 [00:48] <KillSpammer> Beep.
#136 [00:48] <KillSpammer> I request cake.
#137 [00:48] <OODavo> KillSpammer: The cake is a fabrication.
#138 [00:48] <KillSpammer> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
#139 [00:48] <KillSpammer> I request cake.
#140 [00:49] <KillSpammer> :S
#141 [00:49] <KillSpammer> Your a glad os
#142 [00:49] <KillSpammer> :)
#143 [00:49] <KillSpammer> Glad Operating system :O
#144 [00:50] <KillSpammer> I'm off to play CS:S
#145 [00:50] <OODavo> Genetic Lifeform and Disk Operating System. :P
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#147 [00:51] <OODavo> Vis: DO YOU NEED HELP?
#148 [00:52] <OODavo> We need someone to need help.
#149 [00:52] <Vis> I need help
#150 [00:52] <OODavo> Excellent.
#151 [00:52] <Visiiri> I'm trying to build a portal to the nether
#152 [00:52] <OODavo> Yes?
#153 [00:52] <Visiiri> but I can't figure out how
#154 [00:52] <Visiiri> I've got the obsidian in the right form
#155 [00:52] <OODavo> Do you have obsidian?
#156 [00:52] <Visiiri> But I can't find flint in my inventory
#157 [00:53] <OODavo> Visiiri: You need to go and get some. ;)
#158 [00:53] <OODavo> Dig up some gravel.
#159 [00:53] <Visiiri> How do I get some?
#160 [00:53] <OODavo> Gravel sometimes drops flint instead.
#161 [00:53] <Visiiri> When I hit B even after I dig gravel it isn't there
#162 [00:53] <OODavo> B?
#163 [00:53] <Visiiri> yeah
#164 [00:53] <Visiiri> all I have is the normal blocks
#165 [00:53] <OODavo> Are you trying to build a portal in Classic?
#166 [00:53] <OODavo> :|
#167 [00:53] <Visiiri> not flint or swords or anything
#168 [00:53] <Visiiri> no
#169 [00:53] <Visiiri> i'm trying to build a portal in Minecraft
#170 [00:53] <Visiiri> :L
#171 [00:54] <OODavo> There is no B key in Minecraft, unless one changes the bindings.
#172 [00:54] <Visiiri> yes there is
#173 [00:54] <Visiiri> and it brings up a block menu
#174 [00:54] <OODavo> You are playing Minecraft Classic.
#175 [00:54] <Visiiri> No
#176 [00:54] <OODavo> There are no portals in Minecraft Classic.
#177 [00:54] <Visiiri> I'm playing Minecraft
#178 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you are
#179 [00:54] <Visiiri> No
#180 [00:54] <Visiiri> it just says Minecraft
#181 [00:54] <OODavo> What URL are you on?
#182 [00:54] <Visiiri> OMFG NEVERMIND
#183 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> If B brings up a menu of all the blocks, you're playing classic
#184 [00:54] <Visiiri> I just got owned by a creeper
#185 [00:55] <Visiiri> :S
#186 [00:55] <OODavo> There are no creepers in Classic what the frell.
#187 [00:55] * GreyVulpine stabs Visiiri
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#188 [00:55] <Visiiri> teehee
#189 [00:55] <Visiiri> I'm sorry.
#190 [00:55] <Visiiri> I shouldn't have trolled you.
#191 [00:55] <Visiiri> I will attempt to be less of an asshole.
#192 [00:56] <OODavo> Nah, it was fun.
#193 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, I found sheet music for Eyes on Me. I'm good
#194 [00:56] <OODavo> It's better than peeps trying to get help with Minecraft Pirate Edition.
#195 [00:56] * GreyVulpine goes to transcribe to minecraft note blocks
#195 [00:56] <OODavo> spdorsey: Do you need help?
#196 [00:56] <spdorsey> why?
#197 [00:57] <OODavo> You just joined a help channel.
#198 [00:57] <OODavo> Do you require assistance?
#199 [00:57] * GreyVulpine snickers
#199 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Easy there OODavo
#200 [00:57] <spdorsey> oh, no. My IRC client auto-joins this channel when I launch
#201 [00:57] <OODavo> I'm a proactive helper.
#202 [00:57] <OODavo> :)
#203 [00:57] <OODavo> Fair enough.
#204 [00:57] <spdorsey> thanks, I guess.
#205 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> spdorsey's been a regular here for a while.
#206 [00:57] <OODavo> I'm just going to ask anyone who joins.
#207 [00:57] <OODavo> Even ops.
#208 [00:58] <OODavo> That way if anyone needs help we can be sure to help them!
#209 [00:59] <OODavo> And if someone doesn't need help we can be sure to annoy them!
#210 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#211 [00:59] * GreyVulpine sets mode: +m
#211 [00:59] <OODavo> Well, crap.
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#213 [01:01] <aetherian> haha
#214 [01:02] <cometen> good morning
#215 [01:06] <aetherian> good evening.
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#217 [01:06] <cometen> its 7:06 am here
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#219 [01:07] <cometen> I got a problem. I have a chest in my game, and when i try to open it the game freeze.
#220 [01:07] <OODavo> cometen: What's in the chest?
#221 [01:07] <cometen> bloks tnt stuff like that
#222 [01:07] <OODavo> Hmm.
#223 [01:08] <OODavo> Does this only happen with the one specific chest?
#224 [01:08] <cometen> no its all 3 of them
#225 [01:08] <OODavo> Every chest you have?
#226 [01:08] <OODavo> Or a specific three?
#227 [01:09] <cometen> I only have 3
#228 [01:09] <OODavo> Right.
#229 [01:09] <OODavo> Hmm.
#230 [01:09] <OODavo> No error messages or anything? Just the freeze?
#231 [01:10] <cometen> yae alot of java stuff
#232 [01:10] <OODavo> Pastebin that stuff.
#233 [01:10] <OODavo> pastebin.com
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#236 [01:12] <cometen> java.lang.NullPointerException
#237 [01:12] <cometen> at gm.b(SourceFile:73)
#238 [01:12] <cometen> at al.a(SourceFile:76)
#239 [01:12] <cometen> at al.a(SourceFile:28)
#240 [01:12] <cometen> at oc.a(SourceFile:150)
#241 [01:12] <cometen> at oc.a(SourceFile:144)
#242 [01:12] <cometen> at h.a(SourceFile:352)
#243 [01:12] <cometen> at ll.c(SourceFile:442)
#244 [01:12] <cometen> at ll.b(SourceFile:366)
#245 [01:12] <cometen> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:705)
#246 [01:12] <cometen> at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
#247 [01:12] <OODavo> I said pastebin!
#248 [01:12] <xales> pastebin, not paste...
#249 [01:12] * GreyVulpine kicked cometen from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Don't flood.)()
#250 [01:12] <OODavo> :|
#251 [01:12] <OODavo> Well, that isn't good.
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#253 [01:12] <cometen> sorry
#254 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Please paste it at www.pastebin.com
#255 [01:12] <OODavo> Just put it on pastebin.com and give us the link.
#256 [01:13] <cometen> like this? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=1pBWWb9M
#257 [01:13] <OODavo> Yeah, that works.
#258 [01:13] <OODavo> :)
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#260 [01:14] <OODavo> There should be a lot more error message than that. :|
#261 [01:14] <cometen> well there is not
#262 [01:14] <OODavo> That's weird
#263 [01:14] <OODavo> .
#264 [01:15] <OODavo> The whole contents of the error box were just that?
#265 [01:16] <Visiiri> So guys
#266 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> This is on single player or SMP?
#267 [01:16] <Visiiri> who wants to support me with some mod help
#268 [01:16] <Visiiri> That bridge/door mod
#269 [01:16] * GreyVulpine stabs Visiiri
#269 [01:16] <Visiiri> I want it
#270 [01:16] <OODavo> GreyVulpine: Ooh, good question.
#271 [01:16] <cometen> SP
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#273 [01:16] <Visiiri> And I am not good (really lazy) at finding things
#274 [01:16] <OODavo> cometen: There should be a lot more stuff in the error box.
#275 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Visiiri - What are you looking for?
#276 [01:16] <Visiiri> That bridge/door mod
#277 [01:17] <Visiiri> Where you can make the blocks change positions and whatnot
#278 [01:17] <OODavo> If there isn't, something's seriously wrong with your MC installation.
#279 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> Controllerblock?
#280 [01:17] <Visiiri> Uhhh, sure
#281 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> I don't know if that's been kept updated
#282 [01:17] <cometen> is it cilent or server cmd ?
#283 [01:17] <Visiiri> x.x
#284 [01:17] <OODavo> No mods work on Beta right now.
#285 [01:17] <Visiiri> Yeah, I've been looking at- OODavo you're wrong- the list of working mods with the 1.2 update
#286 [01:17] <OODavo> Visiiri: Oh, fair enough.
#287 [01:18] <Visiiri> Not sure though
#288 [01:18] <xales> cometen: where did you find the error
#289 [01:18] <OODavo> It said here earlir that none of the mods work.
#290 [01:18] <Visiiri> I want to do some fun redstone things
#291 [01:18] <cometen> client
#292 [01:18] <OODavo> s/lir/lier/
#293 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Visiiri - music
#294 [01:18] <Visiiri> GreyVulpine, already done
#295 [01:18] <Visiiri> I'll make a video later
#296 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#297 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Are you familiar with MML? Music markup language?
#298 [01:19] <Visiiri> But I've successfully made the ENTIRE Betus Blues (Retro) from Super Meat Boy
#299 [01:19] <Visiiri> GreyVulpine, I am not.
#300 [01:19] <OODavo> GreyVulpine: There's a music markup language now?
#301 [01:19] <OODavo> Other than MIDI?
#302 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's been around for a while
#303 [01:19] <OODavo> cometen: If that's the only content of the error box, MC is seriously messed up, and you should probably reinstall.
#304 [01:20] <OODavo> !reinstall
#305 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Visiiri - http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=84500
#306 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> ControllerBlock
#307 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Hasn't been updated for beta
#308 [01:20] <cometen> server error: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=V0nhBbiQ
#309 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> videos in third post
#310 [01:20] <Visiiri> Ogawd
#311 [01:20] <Visiiri> ollllld
#312 [01:20] <Visiiri> damn
#313 [01:20] <xales> cometen: where in the client
#314 [01:21] <cometen> already posted it
#315 [01:21] <xales> no. where did you see this error
#316 [01:21] <xales> was it a txt file?
#317 [01:21] <cometen> as I said (server)
#318 [01:21] <cometen> no cmd box
#319 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Looks like a problem with cometen's NIC?
#320 [01:21] <xales> GreyVulpine: why?
#321 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Running atheros by any chance?
#322 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed
#323 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: socket write erro
#324 [01:22] <xales> GreyVulpine: where did you find that?
#325 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Both are indicative of that
#326 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> HIs last pastebin
#327 [01:22] <OODavo> xales: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=V0nhBbiQ
#328 [01:22] <xales> oh, I didn't see a second one
#329 [01:22] <xales> yeah, NIC or possibly firewall
#330 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Most likely NIC
#331 [01:23] <OODavo> It's a very specific situation, though.
#332 [01:23] <OODavo> If it were a general connectivity issue that would make sense.
#333 [01:23] <OODavo> But apparently it's only on chests.
#334 [01:23] <cometen> what does firewall have to do with me disconnecting when opening a box?
#335 [01:23] <Visiiri> What is "Mod Loader" exactly?
#336 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> cometen - Can you go to your device manager, check out what network adapter you have running?
#337 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Visiiri - ?
#338 [01:24] <Visiiri> I see "requires Mod Loader" a lot
#339 [01:24] <Visiiri> What is he talking about?
#340 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Oh, it's basically an SP version of hey0's mod.
#341 [01:24] <xales> cometen: do you have any mods running?
#342 [01:24] <xales> on your server
#343 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> It's a loader which combines different plugins, has them all running at the same time
#344 [01:24] <Visiiri> Can I have a link to that?
#345 [01:24] <Visiiri> -if it is updated
#346 [01:25] <cometen> I was before the patch
#347 [01:25] <OODavo> We're... not supposed to support mods in here. :|
#348 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Um, google risugami mod loader
#349 [01:25] <Visiiri> Not supposed to my ass
#350 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> It was originally a loader for his SP mods
#351 [01:25] <Visiiri> I'll ban you all from #minecraft if you don't help me >:D
#352 [01:25] <Visiiri> Oh, then I've probably got it
#353 [01:25] <Visiiri> I'm in Risu's thread
#354 [01:25] <xales> cometen: are you still trying with the mod
#355 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, please, ban me from #minecraft. You'd be doing me a favor
#356 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> I wouldn't have to deal with those horrid people there.
#357 [01:26] <Visiiri> heheheh
#358 [01:26] <Visiiri> I know
#359 [01:26] <cometen> no Im not
#360 [01:26] <KillSpammer> BEep
#361 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> As well as saving me hard drive space on logs
#362 [01:26] <xales> GreyVulpine: any in specific?
#363 [01:26] <KillSpammer> I wonder how much space my beeps have takken up in your logs?
#364 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> No one in particular, just the overall population of #minecraft..
#365 [01:26] <OODavo> cometen: So now you have vanilla server AND client, correct?
#366 [01:27] <cometen> yes
#367 [01:27] <OODavo> Have you tried a reinstall yet?
#368 [01:27] <xales> GreyVulpine: is someone talking in #minecraft?
#369 [01:27] <cometen> yes
#370 [01:27] <xales> I think I may have them ignored for some reason
#371 [01:27] <OODavo> Hmm.
#372 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Just criswell and draaza right now
#373 [01:28] <OODavo> Perhaps it's the chests themselves?
#374 [01:28] <OODavo> Try making another one and see if it does the same thing.
#375 [01:28] <cometen> 2 sec
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#377 [01:30] <cometen> game only freezes on 1 of 3 crates
#378 [01:30] <OODavo> Destroy that chest and place it again.
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#380 [01:30] <OODavo> It could have corrupted in the map data or something.
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#382 [01:34] <cometen> Thanks.. I think it works now
#383 [01:34] <OODavo> cometen: Yay. ^_^
#384 [01:34] <cometen> woop woop
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#386 [01:37] <TheBix> hey guys
#387 [01:38] <TheBix> on my laptop minecraft is screwd.
#388 [01:38] <OODavo> How so?
#389 [01:38] <TheBix> my brother made a save
#390 [01:38] <TheBix> actaully he made 3
#391 [01:38] <TheBix> 3 different worlds which all got corrupted some how
#392 [01:39] <OODavo> Oh?
#393 [01:39] <TheBix> and on his fourth world he went exploring and found all the houses from the other saves
#394 [01:39] <OODavo> Wait, WHAT?
#395 [01:39] <TheBix> randomly found in nature
#396 [01:39] <OODavo> That shoud not be possible.
#397 [01:39] <OODavo> Although if it were possible it would be awesome.
#398 [01:39] <TheBix> all the crap is even still in the chests and stuff
#399 [01:39] <TheBix> its true
#400 [01:40] <TheBix> I'm not making this up hes sitting right next to me after he found another one of his houses
#401 [01:40] <OODavo> Somehow the world generator is reading from the world files instead of /dev/random. Odd.
#402 [01:40] <TheBix> its windows so there is no dev/random
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#404 [01:40] <OODavo> I know.
#405 [01:40] <TheBix> and thats not how it works at all.
#406 [01:41] <OODavo> Yes, I know how it works.
#407 [01:41] <xales> Actually, it would be mixing the chunks
#408 [01:41] <OODavo> Yeah.
#409 [01:41] <TheBix> also they aren't on the same world slot
#410 [01:41] <TheBix> so its not just half a world still there
#411 [01:41] <xales> I'd say the only possible cause for that is the hard disk is seriously fucked up
#412 [01:41] <TheBix> no its perfectly fine
#413 [01:41] <TheBix> its minecraft
#414 [01:41] <OODavo> You could try erasing all the world files entirely to stop it.
#415 [01:41] <xales> Nobody else has experienced that
#416 [01:42] <TheBix> no he likes it like that
#417 [01:42] <OODavo> But if it's mixing chunks like that, you've got serious problems.
#418 [01:42] <TheBix> finding his houses and such
#419 [01:42] <OODavo> Fair enough.
#420 [01:42] <TheBix> but it isn't perfectly mixing them into the map and such
#421 [01:42] <TheBix> you get massive rectangular cliffs/valleys everywhere
#422 [01:43] <OODavo> To be expected.
#423 [01:43] <OODavo> That's what mismatched chunks tend to look like.
#424 [01:43] <TheBix> but yeah exploring and finding all your corrupted houses is cool
#425 [01:44] <TheBix> seriously even the chests have the same items
#426 [01:44] <OODavo> Makes sense, since the whole chunk is apparently being used.
#427 [01:46] <TheBix> also yay for optimization in beta. I can finally run firefox, chatzilla and minecraft on far/fast without massive lag
#428 [01:46] <xales> So, I'm expecting another obvious pirate to come in to finish the night
#429 [01:46] <xales> TheBix: :)
#430 [01:46] <OODavo> Yay. :)
#431 [01:47] <TheBix> it still a bit slow but only as slow as when it was running alone
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#437 [02:05] <haozure> quick question is anybody having any problems with multiplayer with the new patch? I'm on my friends server and its acting like there is lag but when I do a tracert and ping they come up super fast, but the chunks arent loading normally
#438 [02:05] <XWOLFz> Hey, Any help on eggs?
#439 [02:06] <XWOLFz> I can't throw them for some reason
#440 [02:08] <xales> XWOLFz: what happens when you try?
#441 [02:08] <XWOLFz> nothing
#442 [02:08] <xales> haozure: What are the specs on the server?
#443 [02:08] <XWOLFz> no animation what so ever
#444 [02:08] <xales> XWOLFz: What are you using to throw them?
#445 [02:09] <XWOLFz> I tried right click and Q
#446 [02:09] <xales> Latest version?
#447 [02:09] <XWOLFz> Now that you mention it
#448 [02:09] <XWOLFz> *facepalm*
#449 [02:09] <aetherian> ...heh...
#450 [02:09] <xales> It autoupdates when you open it...
#451 [02:09] <xales> >.>
#452 [02:09] <haozure> i think its a friends laptop
#453 [02:09] <XWOLFz> yeah
#454 [02:09] <haozure> dunno what the specs are
#455 [02:10] <haozure> probably nothing too fancy
#456 [02:10] <XWOLFz> Thanks anyway, cya
#457 [02:10] <xales> haozure: The lag is not network then, most laptops aren't capable of running Minecraft server
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#459 [02:10] <haozure> well i mean its been fine for the past week maybe its trying to add blue ore wherever we go lol
#460 [02:11] <OODavo> It shouldn't be modifying existing chunks like that.
#461 [02:11] <OODavo> :|
#462 [02:12] <haozure> well thanks anyways I'll just go work on my fortress in the nether ;)
#463 [02:12] <OODavo> Oh, okay.
#464 [02:12] <OODavo> Um, you do have the server and clients updated?
#465 [02:13] <xales> OODavo: do you get the feeling XWOLFz wasn't on the latest version because cracked copy? :P
#466 [02:13] <OODavo> xales: Perhaps.
#467 [02:14] <xales> and running away 60 seconds after I mentioned that
#468 [02:14] <xales> =/
#469 [02:14] <OODavo> Why do we get so many pirates wanting help here?
#470 [02:14] <haozure> yeah we both have the updates
#471 [02:14] <OODavo> Okay, good.
#472 [02:14] <OODavo> Hmm.
#473 [02:14] <xales> OODavo: Generally they are the idiots >.>
#474 [02:14] <haozure> well i dunno about xwofz
#475 [02:14] <OODavo> :P
#476 [02:14] <haozure> i meant my friend
#477 [02:15] <haozure> i saw a few trees that had two different types of leaves too lol
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#479 [02:15] <xales> haozure: can you find out the specs of the laptop it is run on? otherwise, not much we can do
#480 [02:15] <OODavo> The latest MC was massively optimised, wasn't it?
#481 [02:15] <xales> OODavo: Not massively, but somewhat
#482 [02:15] <OODavo> The server should, if anything, run way better after the latest updates.
#483 [02:15] <OODavo> xales: Okay, that was hyperbole.
#484 [02:15] <haozure> hmm you think maybe it could be because it was a singleplayer map converted to multiplayer?
#485 [02:16] <OODavo> haozure: Probably not. The map data is essentially identical.
#486 [02:16] <xales> haozure: No, the problem is 99% because it is run on a laptop
#487 [02:17] <xales> Laptops aren't meant for running servers. Hell, if it runs Windows, it isn't meant for running servers
#488 [02:18] <OODavo> If we can get the server specs we can probably advise further.
#489 [02:19] <haozure> kk i'll let you know if i can get them he might of gone to bed
#490 [02:19] <xales> ok
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#492 [02:25] <grand> hello?
#493 [02:26] <xales> hello
#494 [02:27] <grand> cool people im trying to run MC server on linux but says cant access minecraft_server.jar any help?
#495 [02:27] <xales> can you paste the exact error?
#496 [02:27] <grand> 1 sec
#497 [02:28] <grand> unable to access jarfile minecraft_server.jar
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#499 [02:29] <OODavo> Are you in the right directory?
#500 [02:29] <grand> yea
#501 [02:29] <OODavo> Do an ls | grep Minecraft
#502 [02:29] <gu1l7y5p4rk> Anyone else getting a 502 Gateway Error on the MC Forums?
#503 [02:29] <xales> gu1l7y5p4rk: yup
#504 [02:29] <OODavo> Sorry, ls | grep minecraft
#505 [02:29] <OODavo> Make sure the jar is there.
#506 [02:29] <gu1l7y5p4rk> K, just wonderin.
#507 [02:29] <OODavo> And with the right name.
#508 [02:30] * gu1l7y5p4rk tear's in eyes.
#508 [02:30] <gu1l7y5p4rk> This is why I love irc.
#509 [02:31] <OODavo> No, wait, it might be ls -l | grep minecraft
#510 [02:31] <OODavo> :|
#511 [02:32] <xales> grand: you there?
#512 [02:32] <grand> yep
#513 [02:32] <xales> you downloaded the server, right?
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#515 [02:32] <grand> yea
#516 [02:33] <xales> also, just to clarify, do you want to run a Beta/Survival server or a Classic/Creative server
#517 [02:33] <grand> says both of the above are notcommands?
#518 [02:33] <grand> beta
#519 [02:33] <xales> your running linux, right?
#520 [02:34] <grand> also nbntu 10.10
#521 [02:34] <grand> unbuntu*
#522 [02:34] <xales> where did you download the server to?
#523 [02:34] <grand> make a server folder at root
#524 [02:34] <grand> made*
#525 [02:35] <OODavo> At root? That could have permissions issues. :|
#526 [02:35] <OODavo> Try making one in ~ instead.
#527 [02:35] <xales> Yeah, oh, also...
#528 [02:35] <OODavo> If you're running under your own user and not a specific server user, of course.
#529 [02:35] <grand> e machine
#530 [02:35] <xales> can you tell me your username for Minecraft?
#531 [02:35] <grand> grandreaper
#532 [02:35] <grand> name^^
#533 [02:36] <xales> ok, thanks
#534 [02:36] <grand> its running off a old machine in my hose
#535 [02:36] <grand> np
#536 [02:36] <grand> house*
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#538 [02:36] <xales> how old exactly? the minecraft server uses a lot of resources
#539 [02:36] <grand> bad u key :/
#540 [02:36] <OODavo> It'll need decent specs.
#541 [02:36] <grand> 1 year? has dual core
#542 [02:37] <grand> 4gb ram
#543 [02:37] <grand> 36 gb hd
#544 [02:37] <OODavo> Hmm.
#545 [02:37] <OODavo> Sounds like it should be alright. Probably.
#546 [02:37] <OODavo> I hope.
#547 [02:37] <xales> that should be fine, I'm concerned about the HDD speed though.
#548 [02:37] <OODavo> Oh, good point.
#549 [02:37] <grand> ever heard of Garry's mod?
#550 [02:37] <xales> anyway, what command are you using to start the server?
#551 [02:38] <grand> 15k rpm
#552 [02:38] <xales> or, to try, anyway
#553 [02:38] <OODavo> grand: What about Garry's Mod? :/
#554 [02:38] <xales> 30gb and 15k rpm? >.>
#555 [02:38] <grand> this comp can handle it before so i figured this would be plenty for MC
#556 [02:38] <OODavo> Fair enough.
#557 [02:39] <grand> hd is redudat :P
#558 [02:39] <OODavo> You're probably right there.
#559 [02:39] <xales> believe it or not, Minecraft will use more resources than Garrys Mod. However, you should be fine.
#560 [02:39] <OODavo> So, what command are you using for the server start?
#561 [02:39] <xales> ^
#562 [02:39] <grand> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#563 [02:39] <OODavo> Hmm.
#564 [02:39] <xales> do this
#565 [02:39] <xales> ls -la | grep minecraft
#566 [02:40] <OODavo> (and then paste us the output of that command)
#567 [02:40] <xales> ^
#568 [02:41] <grand> does nothing?
#569 [02:41] <OODavo> Okay, you may be in the wrong directory.
#570 [02:41] <xales> do 'pwd'
#571 [02:41] <OODavo> ^
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#573 [02:42] <Visiiri> Saaaave me meat boy, you're the one that I need! Dr. Fetus- he can't beat us, but he's making me bleed! So would you save me, boy, I know you've got what it takes, it's the hour, use your power, and come help save the day!
#574 [02:42] <grand> home/grand/server
#575 [02:42] <ram> can I get some help here?
#576 [02:42] <xales> grand: did you put the server in that folder?
#577 [02:42] <OODavo> ram: Yes.
#578 [02:42] <grand> yep
#579 [02:43] <xales> ram: what do you need help with?
#580 [02:43] <xales> grand: what is the output of just 'ls'
#581 [02:43] <ram> I keep getting a timed out message
#582 [02:43] <ram> and have tried updating my drivers
#583 [02:43] <OODavo> ram: To which server are you trying to connect?
#584 [02:43] <ram> turningoff firewall, antivirus, etc
#585 [02:43] <ram> multilayer
#586 [02:43] <ram> survival mode
#587 [02:43] <OODavo> Yes.
#588 [02:43] <OODavo> Which server?
#589 [02:43] <xales> which server specifically?
#590 [02:44] <ram> oh
#591 [02:44] <OODavo> The IP?
#592 [02:44] <ram> 69.197.188:25565
#593 [02:44] <OODavo> That's not a valid IP.
#594 [02:44] <OODavo> That would be your problem.
#595 [02:44] <OODavo> Well, I'm pretty sure it's not.
#596 [02:44] <ram> it worked before
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#598 [02:44] <xales> Nope, that IP is not valid
#599 [02:44] <OODavo> It definitely shouldn't have worked.
#600 [02:44] <ram> hmm
#601 [02:44] <ram> strange
#602 [02:44] <OODavo> Is this a local server?
#603 [02:45] <xales> and IP has to have four octets, you can't just leave one out
#604 [02:45] <grand> minecraft.server.jar
#605 [02:45] <xales> an*
#606 [02:45] <ram> it's not my server'
#607 [02:45] <xales> grand: where did you download the server from?
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#609 [02:45] <OODavo> ram: Where did you get the IP?
#610 [02:45] <ram> a friend gave it to me
#611 [02:45] <ram> I also have this 69.197.188.182:25565
#612 [02:45] <OODavo> ram: Try that one.
#613 [02:45] <ram> but it doesn't seem to work either
#614 [02:46] <OODavo> Oh.
#615 [02:46] <ram> I'lkl try again
#616 [02:46] <xales> !check 69.197.188.182:25565
#617 [02:46] <grand> the site itself
#618 [02:46] * OODavo notes that AuBot can do that.
#618 [02:46] <xales> grand: try downloading it again, from this link
#619 [02:46] <xales> !server
#620 [02:48] <ziggo0`> !check 24.12.130.87:25100
#621 [02:48] <ziggo0`> Does AuBot check for default port if one is not defined?
#622 [02:49] <xales> yup
#623 [02:49] <xales> !help
#624 [02:49] <ram> got a failed to connect to server message now
#625 [02:49] <ram> it worked earlier today
#626 [02:49] <ram> I wish the admin was on...
#627 [02:49] <ram> ok
#628 [02:49] <ram> that works
#629 [02:49] <ram> thank you c:
#630 [02:49] <ram> musta got the ip wrong
#631 [02:49] <ram> thanks again :)
#632 [02:49] <xales> ram: your internet just exploded >.>
#633 [02:49] * OODavo wonders exactly what !tutorial prints.
#633 [02:49] <OODavo> !tutorial
#634 [02:49] <OODavo> Oh, very helpful.
#635 [02:49] <xales> ram: anyway, yeah, the IP was wrong
#636 [02:49] <ram> lol
#637 [02:50] <OODavo> :P
#638 [02:50] <ram> I'm going to go do some craftin' now
#639 [02:50] <ram> see you guys
#640 [02:51] <OODavo> Where did grand go?
#641 [02:51] <ziggo0`> !check 24.12.130.87:25300
#642 [02:51] <xales> timed out
#643 [02:51] <xales> 02:49:24 -!- grand [Mibbit@cdm-75-109-126-6.asbnva.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds]
#644 [02:52] <OODavo> Well, that isn't good.
#645 [02:52] <xales> also, lol @ using mibbit on ubuntu, it has an IRC client included in the OS
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#647 [02:52] <grand> fail on my part
#648 [02:52] <OODavo> xales: Um, which one?
#649 [02:52] <DopeGhoti> Empathy?
#650 [02:52] <xales> Think thats it
#651 [02:52] <DopeGhoti> Not the best IRC client, but it's there.
#652 [02:52] <OODavo> grand: Okay, did you get the server downloaded?
#653 [02:53] <OODavo> Ah, right. Empathy.
#654 [02:53] <xales> DopeGhoti: better than mibbit
#655 [02:53] <OODavo> Everything is.
#656 [02:53] <grand> u didn't get those messages?
#657 [02:53] <xales> telnet is :O
#658 [02:53] <xales> grand: Nope
#659 [02:53] <grand> :/
#660 [02:53] <xales> grand: your internet crapped out or something
#661 [02:53] <grand> anyway yea i dled it
#662 [02:53] <OODavo> Right.
#663 [02:53] <DopeGhoti> nc > telnet
#664 [02:53] <xales> DopeGhoti: nc > telnet > mibbit :D
#665 [02:54] <OODavo> nc?
#666 [02:54] <OODavo> grand: So you saved the .jar to... where?
#667 [02:54] <grand> same and replace other
#668 [02:55] <OODavo> Um, the other one had the wrong name.
#669 [02:55] <grand> deleted other then added this on in
#670 [02:55] <DopeGhoti> nc: nc (1) - TCP/IP swiss army knife
#671 [02:55] <OODavo> Probably should do a mv minecraft.server.jar minecraft_server.jar
#672 [02:55] <OODavo> DopeGhoti: Oh, shiny.
#673 [02:55] <DopeGhoti> Quite.
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#675 [02:56] <DopeGhoti> It's right up there with socat.
#676 [02:56] <OODavo> I haven't got that, of course, because I'm still stuck with crappy Cygwin.
#677 [02:56] <grand> mv to where?
#678 [02:56] <DopeGhoti> Cygwin has nc
#679 [02:56] <OODavo> grand: Just using the command as posted should work.
#680 [02:56] <DopeGhoti> and socat for that matter.
#681 [02:56] <xales> grand: what is the name of the file you downloaded?
#682 [02:56] <OODavo> Okay, it probably does but I can't be bothered going through the Cygwin package manager for it.
#683 [02:56] <OODavo> Especially since I plan to install Arch tomorrow. :P
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#685 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> One of these days, I'll play with Arch
#686 [02:57] <grand> is . not _
#687 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> I'm happy with Gentoo or, for low maintenance, {debian,ubuntu-server}
#688 [02:58] <TampaPowers> Will Mc accept a terrain.png with the resolution 8192x8192 ?
#689 [02:58] <xales> grand: is the file you downloaded called 'minecraft_server.jar' or 'minecraft.server.jar'
#690 [02:58] <grand> minecraft.server.jar ( stated above? )
#691 [02:59] <OODavo> grand: mv minecraft.server.jar minecraft_server.jar
#692 [02:59] <grand> k
#693 [02:59] <xales> why would the _ get changed to .? >.>
#694 [02:59] <OODavo> xales: He replaced the existing one, which had a . in it.
#695 [03:00] <xales> OODavo: ehh..ok, wonder how it got the . in it in the first place
#696 [03:00] <grand> k
#697 [03:00] <OODavo> xales: No idea.
#698 [03:00] <grand> ls shows minecraft_server.jar
#699 [03:00] <Valium> wget FTW
#700 [03:01] <OODavo> Yay, Arch download done.
#701 [03:01] * OODavo goes to find a CD.
#701 [03:01] <xales> grand: now try running 'java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui'
#702 [03:01] <xales> Valium: wget won't do that to the filename
#703 [03:01] <Valium> I know, thats why I said FTW
#704 [03:01] <Valium> for the win
#705 [03:02] <xales> what would do that though? =/
#706 [03:02] <grand> k btw im not a linux fan but 100$ for cheap windows os is too much
#707 [03:02] <DopeGhoti> $100 for _any_ OS is too much.
#708 [03:02] <OODavo> grand: You could become a Linux fan.
#709 [03:02] <OODavo> Join us. Join us.
#710 [03:02] <grand> :D :D
#711 [03:02] <TampaPowers> i found a windows vps with 4gb ram for 50bucks a month
#712 [03:03] <grand> works
#713 [03:03] <OODavo> grand: Yay. ^_^
#714 [03:03] <grand> btw its not that i dislike it its the fact that im new :)
#715 [03:03] <TampaPowers> is the server more cpu heavy or ram using?
#716 [03:03] <OODavo> Fair enough.
#717 [03:03] <grand> linux > windows
#718 [03:03] <OODavo> TampaPowers: I think it's CPU?
#719 [03:04] <xales> TampaPowers: everywhere. Also, when it doesn't work very well, just remember me telling you that
#720 [03:04] <grand> ok new qestion how to rn two on same machine :P
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#722 [03:04] <grand> run*
#723 [03:05] <xales> probably not the best idea if you are hosting at home
#724 [03:05] <TampaPowers> im just trying to figure out what to look out for when searching for a vps i need a new machine my current is far to slow for my taste
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#726 [03:05] <grand> well one is private aka lan
#727 [03:05] <grand> other is low slot pub and my connection is 12 down 2 up
#728 [03:06] <xales> TampaPowers: You want a Xen/whatever Windows equivalent VPS with at least 3GB ram and decent CPU
#729 [03:06] <jscinoz> TampaPowers: I'd recommend Linode personally
#730 [03:06] <jscinoz> I use them, and they've yet to let me down
#731 [03:06] <jscinoz> fuck windows on a VPS
#732 [03:06] <xales> grand: you need to create a copy of minecraft_server.jar in another folder, and edit the config file in there to use a different port
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#734 [03:06] <jscinoz> thats just 12 kinds of retarded
#735 [03:06] <xales> jscinoz: Indeed. Linode <3
#736 [03:06] <TampaPowers> they say the guaranteed cores are 2 with 1,5ghz each and a dynmic speed of 5,8ghz
#737 [03:07] <TampaPowers> included 4 gb ram
#738 [03:07] <jscinoz> TampaPowers: is the issue that you can't use the linux shell?
#739 [03:07] <xales> TampaPowers: Yeah, stuff like that is not what you want. If you don't get enough guaranteed performance, it won't work
#740 [03:07] <grand> ah thanks guys you all deserve cookie
#741 [03:07] <TampaPowers> i just do not like linux thats all
#742 [03:07] <jscinoz> TampaPowers: its a server
#743 [03:07] <jscinoz> get over it.
#744 [03:08] <Valium> ^this
#745 [03:08] <jscinoz> You don't run windows on an internet connected server unless you *want* to be rooted
#746 [03:08] <grand> linux > windows :)
#747 [03:08] <Valium> ^and that
#748 [03:08] <jscinoz> Not to mention, remote management.. you planning on using RDP? that'll suck hardcore
#749 [03:08] <xales> jscinoz: rooted = pwned and have you life ruined
#750 [03:08] <OODavo> There's no such thing as "rooted" on Windows, though.
#751 [03:08] <xales> in the case of windows
#752 [03:08] <jscinoz> xales: yeah i know what rooted means :P
#753 [03:08] <xales> OODavo: More or less
#754 [03:08] <jscinoz> OODavo: aye, but the equivalent :P
#755 [03:08] <OODavo> Fair enough.
#756 [03:08] <haozure> what are the new trees supposed to look like, i keep seeing mixed trees
#757 [03:08] <xales> jscinoz: worse than rooted in this case.
#758 [03:08] <OODavo> RDP for remote management? Ick.
#759 [03:08] <OODavo> SSH FTW.
#760 [03:08] <TampaPowers> i have had the linux windows thing before so do not start
#761 [03:08] <jscinoz> OODavo: +1
#762 [03:09] <Valium> oh right, because windows does really have decent permission mnagement
#763 [03:09] <OODavo> SSH is magnificent.
#764 [03:09] <TampaPowers> i am a windows person and will prolly ever be
#765 [03:09] <jscinoz> TampaPowers: we're not arguing your local machine
#766 [03:09] <DopeGhoti> haozure: birch bark. (white). Haven't seen pine yet.
#767 [03:09] <jscinoz> use whatever the hell you want locally
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#769 [03:09] <jscinoz> but if its a server, and *especially* if its connected to the internet
#770 [03:09] <DopeGhoti> SSH is best mixed with RSA authentication.
#771 [03:09] <jscinoz> you use linux/bsd
#772 [03:09] <jscinoz> even OS X would be better than windows for a server
#773 [03:09] <DopeGhoti> and _disabling_ password authentication.
#774 [03:09] <haozure> the birch bark should be extra flamible
#775 [03:09] <xales> TampaPowers: If you want to do something batshit insane like running Windows on a server, go ahead. I can't reccomend any specs or any provider, primarily because Windows is a piece of shit and real providers don't support it
#776 [03:09] <OODavo> haozure: The word is "inflammable".
#777 [03:10] <OODavo> ;)
#778 [03:10] <DopeGhoti> flammable is also "the" word.
#779 [03:10] <OODavo> There is no such word as "flammable". :|
#780 [03:10] <DopeGhoti> damn those Celts and their duplication of effort when traipsing across Europe in search of verbs.
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#782 [03:11] <xales> OODavo: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/flammable
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#784 [03:11] <ODST> hey
#785 [03:11] <TampaPowers> linux has mono, mono sucks. most stuff is for windows running on linux requires some console shit or customisation which i really dont have a head for im too stupid to administrate a linux server also i dont know which of the billion os to use... the list goes on
#786 [03:11] <xales> hello
#787 [03:11] <OODavo> xales: Wiktionary is lying to us.
#788 [03:11] <ODST> im have trouble with somethin
#789 [03:11] <OODavo> ODST: Tell all.
#790 [03:12] <ziggo0`> It's not really that hard to type a few commands and bask in the uptime...
#791 [03:12] <xales> TampaPowers: what is the purpose of running Linux just to run Windows software? that is probably the dumbest thing...anyway
#792 [03:12] <jscinoz> TampaPowers: If you don't know that, you shouldnt be running a server
#793 [03:12] <ODST> ! The Gamer ! 24/7 Freebuild Server
#794 [03:12] <ODST> i cant seem to get to
#795 [03:12] <ODST> that server
#796 [03:12] <jscinoz> TampaPowers: hire a sysadmin, don't bring another soon-to-be botnet node online
#797 [03:12] <OODavo> ODST: Classic? Beta?
#798 [03:12] <Valium> TampaPowers: Then you should not run the minecraft server. In my opinion you are too dumb. What will yuo do when shit hits the fan?
#799 [03:12] <xales> That will be Classic, OODavo
#800 [03:12] <ODST> classic
#801 [03:12] <OODavo> Point.
#802 [03:12] <xales> ODST: do you get an error?
#803 [03:13] <ODST> ya says lost connect
#804 [03:13] <jscinoz> Valium: put it bluntly, but correct
#805 [03:13] <xales> ODST: What exactly does it say
#806 [03:13] <Valium> I do not sugar-coat, sorry guys
#807 [03:13] <ODST> connection lost
#808 [03:13] <xales> ODST: Is that all it says?
#809 [03:14] <DopeGhoti> TampaPowers: you do realize that most of the internet runs on POSIX, and not Windows, right?
#810 [03:14] <ODST> you just got your ass handed to you
#811 [03:14] <ODST> thats wat it says
#812 [03:14] <xales> ODST: Sounds like your banned from the server or something
#813 [03:14] <DopeGhoti> TampaPowers: and that Windows itself includes POSIX code, which is why even Windows has an /etc/ directory?
#814 [03:14] <TampaPowers> yes im a stupid dumbfuck who doesnt understand the internet happy now?
#815 [03:14] <OODavo> DopeGhoti: Nothing runs on POSIX. It's not an OS.
#816 [03:14] <ODST> hmm
#817 [03:14] <xales> OODavo: Most of em comply with the POSIX standard, and thus "run" on it
#818 [03:14] <ODST> idk...i was jus buildin stuff
#819 [03:15] <DopeGhoti> OODavo: fair enough: on POSIX-compliant systems?
#820 [03:15] <ODST> not griefin
#821 [03:15] <jscinoz> OODavo: he meeans that the majority of the nodes on the internet use a POSIX compliant OS
#822 [03:15] <OODavo> DopeGhoti: Better.
#823 [03:15] <xales> ODST: I couldn't tell you why you were banned, I don't run the server
#824 [03:15] * DopeGhoti nods.
#824 [03:15] <OODavo> :)
#825 [03:15] <ODST> any advise?
#826 [03:15] <xales> TampaPowers: If you don't understand the internet, why do you want to run a server?
#827 [03:15] <xales> ODST: find a new server
#828 [03:15] <OODavo> ODST: If you can contact the server admins somehow you could appeal.
#829 [03:15] <OODavo> Otherwise, yeah, just get another server.
#830 [03:16] <TampaPowers> i dont want to i already do i have a windows 2003 vps already
#831 [03:16] <ODST> ok...how would i somehow do that?
#832 [03:16] <TampaPowers> but its not powerfull enough for mc
#833 [03:16] <jscinoz> TampaPowers: good luck with that :P
#834 [03:16] <DopeGhoti> TampaPowers: well, sell MSSQL Server hosting or something
#835 [03:16] <OODavo> ODST: You'd need to know the server admins outside of the server. With email or something.
#836 [03:16] <OODavo> :|
#837 [03:16] <OODavo> Not too likely, I would imagne.
#838 [03:16] <DopeGhoti> or see if your vendor will let you trade for a Linux or BSD VPS
#839 [03:16] <OODavo> s/gne/gine/
#840 [03:17] <TampaPowers> i have luck with it runs teamspeak just fine
#841 [03:17] <OODavo> DopeGhoti: Why would anyone want MSSQL?
#842 [03:17] <ODST> i see....well thanks
#843 [03:17] <Valium> MSSQL now youve got me laughing
#844 [03:17] <OODavo> Even SQLite's better than that. :P
#845 [03:17] <xales> TampaPowers: Running Minecraft on a VPS is bad enough, but its just a fucking horrible idea with Windows on the VPS
#846 [03:17] <DopeGhoti> OODavo: no fscking idea
#847 [03:18] <Valium> I read the logs when I want laugh
#848 [03:18] <DopeGhoti> OODavo: buy he's got Windows, he may as well go hole-hog and use nothing worthwhile whatsoever
#849 [03:18] <OODavo> True.
#850 [03:18] <OODavo> Next he'll be writing the admin console in VB6. :(
#851 [03:18] <Valium> XD
#852 [03:19] <jscinoz> TampaPowers: no offence but... you're trolling, right? You can't be serious to you wanna run minecraft on a windows VPS
#853 [03:19] <Valium> except that he'd need to know the console part first
#854 [03:19] <TampaPowers> ...
#855 [03:19] <OODavo> True.
#856 [03:19] * OODavo remembers he was going to get a CD to put Arch on.
#856 [03:19] <TampaPowers> i do kind of realize that the windows vps i have isnt good to run mc
#857 [03:19] <OODavo> Nah, it can wait.
#858 [03:19] <TampaPowers> i dont have the money to get a decent root server
#859 [03:19] <OODavo> TampaPowers: You "kind of" realise?
#860 [03:20] <jscinoz> TampaPowers: look at linode
#861 [03:20] <jscinoz> TampaPowers: its cheap
#862 [03:20] <TampaPowers> i only have max 50$ monthly
#863 [03:20] <TampaPowers> maybe 60
#864 [03:20] <OODavo> TampaPowers: Become a gangster with a massive overseas bank account.
#865 [03:20] <jscinoz> TampaPowers: http://www.linode.com/
#866 [03:21] <jscinoz> for 60/month you get 1.5G ram
#867 [03:21] <xales> TampaPowers: You won't be able to get a Windows server that can actually run Minecraft for less than $150/month
#868 [03:21] <xales> As opposed to $40 for a 1GB linode
#869 [03:21] <xales> *snrk*
#870 [03:21] <TampaPowers> so i MUST use linux for mc then ok fair enough
#871 [03:21] <OODavo> 1GB can run MC?
#872 [03:21] <OODavo> TampaPowers: Yes, you must.
#873 [03:22] <xales> OODavo: Just barely
#874 [03:22] <TampaPowers> i found a machine: http://www.hosteurope.de/produkt/Virtual-Server-Linux-MAX2
#875 [03:22] <OODavo> You must also use it for your local systems or it won't work right.
#876 [03:22] <xales> Not a lot of clients, but it will manage
#877 [03:22] <TampaPowers> 6gb ram should be enough
#878 [03:22] <Valium> you realize its in germany, right?
#879 [03:23] <xales> TampaPowers: You don't want an OpenVZ server
#880 [03:23] <TampaPowers> i am german
#881 [03:23] <xales> That is an OpenVZ host
#882 [03:23] <xales> OpenVZ is bad for real servers, to the point of being stupid to use it
#883 [03:23] <OODavo> What's OpenVZ? :/
#884 [03:23] <xales> OODavo: http://vpslink.com/compare/openvz-vs-xen-vps-hosting/
#885 [03:24] <TampaPowers> where does it say openvz
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#887 [03:24] <TampaPowers> i dont see it
#888 [03:24] <jscinoz> you want Xen, UML or KVM based hosting
#889 [03:24] <DopeGhoti> OpenVZ's not that bad
#890 [03:24] <xales> TampaPowers: If it says "guaranteed" and offers a "burst", then it is openvz
#891 [03:24] <DopeGhoti> Just stay away from Parallels VPSs
#892 [03:24] <xales> DopeGhoti: Oversold nodes and drive IO issues, specifically with Minecraft
#893 [03:25] <xales> Xen = guaranteed not to oversell
#894 [03:25] <Valium> you're german but get paid in dollars?
#895 [03:25] <ziggo0`> http://www.server4you.com/root-server/server-details.php?products=0
#896 [03:25] <ziggo0`> CPU is kinda suck but it would be fine
#897 [03:25] <DopeGhoti> xales: that's not an OpenVZ issue, that's a shithead reseller issue.
#898 [03:25] <DopeGhoti> Pardon my English.
#899 [03:25] <Valium> not trying to troll but ummm.... why not say euros?
#900 [03:25] <OODavo> They're German dollars?
#901 [03:25] <xales> DopeGhoti: Xen can't be oversold, your VMs resources are only usable by your VM
#902 [03:26] * OODavo doesn't know much about VPS in the first place.
#902 [03:26] <OODavo> So it's essentially just running a bunch of virtual machines as servers?
#903 [03:26] <TampaPowers> ... its hard enough finding something with more than 2gb ram and a decent system
#904 [03:26] <DopeGhoti> xales: A non-asshat vendor won't oversell OpenVZ either. All I'm saying is that OpenVZ isn't inherently bad
#905 [03:26] <DopeGhoti> xales: (and yes, Xen rocks)
#906 [03:26] <xales> TampaPowers: google "xen vps germany"
#907 [03:28] <ziggo0`> He's looking for a server in germany?
#908 [03:28] <xales> aparrantly
#909 [03:28] <TampaPowers> not necassarily
#910 [03:28] <ziggo0`> ah, nvm my suggestion then
#911 [03:28] <xales> TampaPowers: Go with linode. They have a lot of tutorials on their website as well
#912 [03:28] <TampaPowers> im fine as long as it is linux, 3gb ram and under 60bucks
#913 [03:29] <xales> TampaPowers: You won't find 3gb ram for under $70
#914 [03:29] <xales> *60
#915 [03:29] <TampaPowers> well than 2gb
#916 [03:29] <OODavo> xales: Is it also not under 70?
#917 [03:29] <TampaPowers> i need a bit more of ram for the teamspeak server
#918 [03:29] <xales> TampaPowers: you can get 1.5gb for $60
#919 [03:32] <TampaPowers> hows this: http://nqhost.com/unmetered-xen-vds.html
#920 [03:33] <ziggo0`> No garunteed CPU time?
#921 [03:34] <xales> TampaPowers: I looked up reviews, aparrantly people have issues with hem
#922 [03:34] <xales> them*
#923 [03:34] <DopeGhoti> TampaPowers: look around here: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=104
#924 [03:34] <DopeGhoti> Lots of VPS offers to browse around there
#925 [03:34] <Valium> Is it wrong that I like the new NKOTB album?
#926 [03:35] <OODavo> Valium: Is it wrong that I don't know what that is?
#927 [03:35] <xales> TampaPowers: If you don't mind it being in London, look at http://linode.com/
#928 [03:35] <Valium> New kids on the Block -- The Block
#929 [03:35] <OODavo> Oh, okay?
#930 [03:36] <Valium> I'm a 28 year old heterosexual male.. completely the wrong demographic
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#932 [03:36] <Valium> actually, most people that I make listen to it think it's pretty good, but they don't know who it is until I tell them
#933 [03:37] <TampaPowers> linode does not offer enough ram for my taste
#934 [03:38] <Valium> I host 6 peopl regularly with no lag on my netbook
#935 [03:38] <Valium> with 1.5 Gb Ram
#936 [03:38] <Valium> and a 1.6GHz Atom n270
#937 [03:38] <OODavo> Valium: You run MC on a netbook?
#938 [03:38] <Valium> the server
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#940 [03:38] <OODavo> Wow.
#941 [03:39] <xales> TampaPowers: You won't find a host thats not going to rip you off for the price you want
#942 [03:39] <Valium> I sneak the sever folder into ram via /dev/shm/
#943 [03:39] <Valium> and then rsync it back every 5 minutes
#944 [03:39] <Valium> works a treat
#945 [03:39] * DopeGhoti <3 /dev/shm
#945 [03:39] <OODavo> shm?
#946 [03:39] <Valium> no clue
#947 [03:39] <DopeGhoti> tl;dr: RAM disk.
#948 [03:39] <OODavo> Shiny.
#949 [03:39] <DopeGhoti> "Shared Memory"
#950 [03:40] <Valium> I dont no what shm means though
#951 [03:40] <Valium> ahh
#952 [03:40] <xales> DopeGhoti: Looking at that provider, someone complained about their Windows VPS running like shit because they tried to play a FPS on it via RDP in the thread...
#953 [03:40] <Valium> well, I ln -s /dev/shm /tmp/ramdisk
#954 [03:40] <DopeGhoti> xales: what the I don't even
#955 [03:40] <Valium> o_0
#956 [03:41] <DopeGhoti> Valium: Valium if you look at `mount` you will see that /dev/shm is tmpfs, which is a RAM disk. :)
#957 [03:41] <Valium> I knewthat much, just not the shm abbreveation.
#958 [03:41] <xales> DopeGhoti: "Yes, i'm running a very light game on the VPS. Normally this game requires: 512MB ram, atleast a single core processor (about 700mghz would suffice) and ofc. Windows."
#959 [03:42] <xales> the VPS had 512MB maximum ram, as well
#960 [03:42] <xales> >.>
#961 [03:42] <Valium> the frell?
#962 [03:42] <Visiiri> quickly guys
#963 [03:42] <Visiiri> highest quality image format
#964 [03:42] <DopeGhoti> depends
#965 [03:42] <Valium> TIFF
#966 [03:42] <Valium> RAW
#967 [03:42] <DopeGhoti> XIFF
#968 [03:42] <Valium> yeah RAW
#969 [03:42] <DopeGhoti> any losless format.
#970 [03:42] <Valium> 9000BPP
#971 [03:42] <DopeGhoti> lossless rather
#972 [03:42] <Valium> with alpha
#973 [03:42] <Visiiri> Am I able to use RAW files as desktop background?
#974 [03:43] <DopeGhoti> reasonable answer: png
#975 [03:43] <xales> Visiiri: No.
#976 [03:43] <Valium> oh.. PNG
#977 [03:43] <xales> Visiiri: Reasonable solution = png
#978 [03:43] <Visiiri> :S
#979 [03:43] <DopeGhoti> PNG is nicely compressable and 100% lossless
#980 [03:44] <DopeGhoti> If you're not going to be _editing_ the files, .png with a dash of /bin/pngcrush. Sitirred, not shaken.
#981 [03:44] <Valium> DopeGhoti: I cant believe many cameras still use jpeg for image capture
#982 [03:44] <DopeGhoti> Valium: I can. I can go worse- my mom once gave me one that saves as .GIF. And only .GIF.
#983 [03:44] <Valium> gif...87 or 89?
#984 [03:45] <TampaPowers> Are squids friendly mobs or will they try to bite ma head off?
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#986 [03:45] <Valium> I as because if it has transparancy support...well...
#987 [03:45] <Valium> TampaPowers: I havent had my head bitten off by 4 so far
#988 [03:45] <DopeGhoti> TampaPowers: they're neutral.
#989 [03:45] <DopeGhoti> despite the nasty-looking teeth
#990 [03:45] <Valium> I think they are octopi though arent they?
#991 [03:46] <TampaPowers> yes 8arms
#992 [03:46] <Valium> I call em squid anyway
#993 [03:46] <TampaPowers> theyre scary things
#994 [03:46] <Valium> he did a good job on the animation.
#995 [03:46] <Valium> I was rather impressed
#996 [03:46] <TampaPowers> ya but they seem to be stuck wherever i find them
#997 [03:49] <OODavo> A .GIF camera? Oh Haruhi. :|
#998 [03:49] <OODavo> T hat's terrible.
#999 [03:50] <OODavo> s/ h/h/
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#1001 [03:50] <TampaPowers> wtf one of these things creeped inside my underwater home
#1002 [03:50] <TampaPowers> scary
#1003 [03:50] <OODavo> So do they have an official name?
#1004 [03:51] <TampaPowers> Squid it says inside the lang file
#1005 [03:51] <OODavo> So they're octotentacled squipd?
#1006 [03:51] <OODavo> s/pd/d/
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#1008 [03:51] <OODavo> Why does the lang file have mob names, by the way?
#1009 [03:52] <TampaPowers> Jellyfish as evil mobs would be epic
#1010 [03:52] <OODavo> TampaPowers: Frell yes.
#1011 [03:52] <aetherian> tampa, we have them
#1012 [03:52] <aetherian> flying ones
#1013 [03:52] <xales> wachu smokin aetherian
#1014 [03:52] <DopeGhoti> with fire
#1015 [03:53] <aetherian> xales: dimethyltryptamine, you?
#1016 [03:53] <aetherian> I was talking about ghasts...
#1017 [03:54] <OODavo> Ghasts can't swim, though.
#1018 [03:54] <OODavo> And they're too big.
#1019 [03:54] <DopeGhoti> they swim through the air
#1020 [03:54] <aetherian> <aetherian> flying ones
#1021 [03:54] <aetherian> >.>
#1022 [03:54] <OODavo> That's not swimming. That's flying.
#1023 [03:54] <TampaPowers> after all air is a fluid thats true
#1024 [03:54] <OODavo> There is a subtle difference.
#1025 [03:54] <aetherian> ...
#1026 [03:54] <aetherian> OO
#1027 [03:54] <aetherian> read what I said
#1028 [03:54] <aetherian> I never said they were swimmers
#1029 [03:55] <OODavo> I know.
#1030 [03:55] <OODavo> In any case, ghasts don't have electricity-based attacks.
#1031 [03:55] <OODavo> So they're nothing like fictional jellyfish,.
#1032 [03:55] <OODavo> s/,//
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#1034 [03:57] <OODavo> Back on topic, though: does anyone need any kind of Minecraft-related assistance?
#1035 [03:58] <Valium> yes, is hMOD updated?
#1036 [03:58] <xales> Valium: Yes, let me get you a link
#1037 [03:58] <Valium> (kidding)
#1038 [03:58] <xales> http://goo.gl/sFpG
#1039 [03:58] <xales> there you go
#1040 [03:59] <xales> enjoy hMOD!
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#1042 [03:59] <Valium> fapfapfap
#1043 [03:59] <TampaPowers> ewww
#1044 [03:59] <Valium> I used to have that as an msn emote
#1045 [04:00] <xales> LOL, how many of you actually followed that link
#1046 [04:00] <JokerPrime> :|
#1047 [04:00] <xales> anyway, if you haven't clicked it, don't >.>
#1048 [04:02] <TampaPowers> last time i clicked i link i bought a toyota prius :P
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#1050 [04:04] <netherian> well
#1051 [04:04] <netherian> big day tomorrow
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#1053 [04:04] <netherian> night
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#1056 [04:10] <TampaPowers> can you actually conrtol the animal you ride on?
#1057 [04:11] <Valium> no
#1058 [04:11] <Valium> and its just pigs
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#1060 [04:24] <TampaPowers> i still dont get why openvz is that bad if the base ram is already above 1gb
#1061 [04:27] <DopeGhoti> TampaPowers: It's not, as long as you have an ethical vendor that doesn't oversell their hardware.
#1062 [04:28] <TampaPowers> im thinking that the host isnt that bad alot people use it and seem happy with it
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#1064 [04:41] <Solvius> goodmorning, when the sun is red, and the badger goes to the north, then the miller start to grind his nuts
#1065 [04:49] <Solvius> its quiet
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#1068 [04:57] <lahwran> I'm having a lag problem. fps lag specifically. every half second ago, there is a major lag spike, lasts for about an 8th to a 14th of a second. it's visible on the graph when I hold f3.
#1069 [04:57] <lahwran> any idea what it might be?
#1070 [04:57] <lahwran> it's not every 3 seconds, the debug code notch left in in 1.2
#1071 [04:57] <lahwran> it's 1.2_01
#1072 [04:58] <lahwran> it's on SMP. I have a hunch that it's connected to the rendering of chunks, but I'm not sure
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#1076 [05:14] <mr_boo> can sumone help me.. i made a minecraft server but says "its down"
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#1083 [05:55] <ToxAtec> Hi. Minecraft crashes after logging in, when the main menu (singleplayer, multiplayer..) should appear. I'm using an Intel 965G chipset and a 64bit Linux. The error is: "org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not get VisualInfo from GLX 1.3 config"
#1084 [05:56] <ToxAtec> I also tried to use the software renderer, same error. It works on another PC with mesa opengl on a 32bit Linux
#1085 [05:57] <ToxAtec> with nvidia graphics though
#1086 [05:57] <ToxAtec> Any ideas? Or should I maybe just write a mail to support@mojang.com?
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#1096 [06:42] <Seb_is_hunting> Hey guys :D
#1097 [06:42] <Seb_is_hunting> :P
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#1099 [06:51] * Kealper rawrs
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#1100 [06:55] <Seb_is_hunting> Alright!
#1101 [06:56] <Kealper> O.o
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#1103 [06:56] <Seb_is_hunting> I managed to make my client work again!
#1104 [06:56] <Kealper> well...that's good lol
#1105 [06:56] <Seb_is_hunting> I seemed to have a problem with the .exe file, so i decided to download the .jar
#1106 [06:57] <Seb_is_hunting> and apparantly it works!
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#1108 [06:57] <Kealper> O.o
#1109 [06:57] <Seb_is_hunting> Is there anything different about having a .jar though?
#1110 [06:57] <Kealper> for the client, not really
#1111 [06:57] <Seb_is_hunting> Well, that's great :D
#1112 [06:57] <Kealper> the .jar one gives you more flexibility, so you can give the client more ram though
#1113 [06:57] <Seb_is_hunting> Now it can connect to minecraft.net again xD
#1114 [06:58] <Kealper> lol
#1115 [06:58] <Seb_is_hunting> I tried litteraly everything to make the .exe client work however
#1116 [06:58] <Seb_is_hunting> such as firewall disabling, rebooting of both modem and comp...
#1117 [06:58] <Kealper> O.o
#1118 [06:58] <Kealper> weird
#1119 [06:59] <Seb_is_hunting> Feels very weird to have a .jar file, however.
#1120 [06:59] <Seb_is_hunting> and, yes, it was extremely weird
#1121 [06:59] <Seb_is_hunting> I had internet and all of that, yet my client could still not connect to minecrft.net
#1122 [07:00] <Seb_is_hunting> I was stuck in minecraft 1.1.02 for a while xD
#1123 [07:00] <Seb_is_hunting> ... playing offline :P
#1124 [07:00] * Kealper has no idea why the jar would work and the exe would not, as they use the same connection methods :/
#1124 [07:01] <Seb_is_hunting> Yes. I tottaly agree.
#1125 [07:01] <Seb_is_hunting> Now that the .jar works however, i'm going to download the .exe and see if it works...
#1126 [07:02] <Seb_is_hunting> haha, lol xD, still refuses to connect :P
#1127 [07:02] <Kealper> O.o
#1128 [07:02] <Kealper> very weird....
#1129 [07:02] <Seb_is_hunting> Tottaly agree right there...
#1130 [07:03] <Seb_is_hunting> Well, i'm still relieved that at least i can connect using the .jar
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#1132 [07:14] <Wesley> hi all
#1133 [07:14] <Wesley> i got a problem
#1134 [07:14] <Kealper> hello
#1135 [07:14] <Kealper> what's the problem?
#1136 [07:14] <Wesley> when i run the server i got this : [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.2_01
#1137 [07:14] <Wesley> [INFO] Loading properties
#1138 [07:14] <Wesley> [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on *:25565
#1139 [07:14] <Wesley> [INFO] Preparing level "World1"
#1140 [07:14] <Wesley> [INFO] Preparing start region
#1141 [07:14] <Wesley> [SEVERE] Unexpected exception
#1142 [07:14] <Wesley> java.lang.NullPointerException
#1143 [07:14] <Wesley> at gc.b(SourceFile:83)
#1144 [07:14] <Wesley> at fv.a(SourceFile:1659)
#1145 [07:14] <Wesley> at me.d(SourceFile:480)
#1146 [07:14] <Wesley> at ly.d(SourceFile:93)
#1147 [07:14] <Wesley> at ly.b(SourceFile:115)
#1148 [07:14] <Wesley> at fv.c(SourceFile:417)
#1149 [07:14] <Valium> oh fuck
#1150 [07:14] <Wesley> at fv.a(SourceFile:374)
#1151 [07:14] <Wesley> at fv.e(SourceFile:378)
#1152 [07:14] <Wesley> at fv.a(SourceFile:282)
#1153 [07:15] <Kealper> next time please do not paste that in like that
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#1155 [07:15] <Wesley> ?
#1156 [07:15] <Wesley> ow, sorry, i didnt know that
#1157 [07:15] <Kealper> it sends each line super slowly, line by line....
#1158 [07:15] <Kealper> so it's just a barrage of spam
#1159 [07:16] <Wesley> ok, sorry but how can i send it then ?
#1160 [07:16] <Kealper> and that error report is rather...not helpful...have you tried reinstalling the server software?
#1161 [07:16] <Wesley> i have download it again from the www.minecraft.net
#1162 [07:16] <Wesley> but again that error
#1163 [07:17] <Kealper> try reinstalling Java
#1164 [07:17] <Wesley> but i run on Windows 7 and i didnt download that Java script
#1165 [07:17] <Kealper> http://java.com
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#1167 [07:17] <Wesley> ok i will reinetal that first
#1168 [07:17] <Wesley> thanks
#1169 [07:17] <TrudleR> Hey guys, any1 got know-how about servers? i got a problem since the update
#1170 [07:18] <TrudleR> !paid TrudleR
#1171 [07:18] <Kealper> what sort of problem?
#1172 [07:18] <TrudleR> since the update, my hey0-server mode wont be compatible with the new minecraft 1.2
#1173 [07:19] <Kealper> that would be correct
#1174 [07:19] <TrudleR> and i'm looking for a way whitch i can take a old world to a new version of the game
#1175 [07:19] <TrudleR> or is this impossible?
#1176 [07:19] <Kealper> it should just work
#1177 [07:19] <Kealper> my world still worked fine after the update
#1178 [07:19] <TrudleR> but i can't connect anymore...
#1179 [07:20] <TrudleR> really? i try again...
#1180 [07:20] <Kealper> did you update your server to the latest version?
#1181 [07:20] <TrudleR> question 2: did the spiders climb, when u got an old world with the new update?
#1182 [07:20] <Kealper> yes, the new update lets spiders climb up walls
#1183 [07:20] <TrudleR> no, my hey0-mod won't be updatet anymore, because hey0 isn't interested in this game anymore
#1184 [07:21] <Kealper> that would be correct, too
#1185 [07:21] <Seb_is_hunting> I like turtles
#1186 [07:21] <Wesley> kealper
#1187 [07:21] <Wesley> i have reinstalled Java
#1188 [07:21] <Wesley> but i still got that error
#1189 [07:21] <Kealper> a new mod team that calls their mod bukkit is working on a new hmod-like mod
#1190 [07:21] <Seb_is_hunting> Ok, i'm out of here guys, i managed to re-install my client, so cya :P
#1191 [07:22] <TrudleR> yes i know about bukkit, but actually it looks bad for a support of the old hey0
#1192 [07:22] <Wesley> but on Windows 7 must i download the Minecraft_server,jar too ?
#1193 [07:22] <Kealper> Wesley: how much ram does your server machine have?
#1194 [07:22] <Wesley> i have 6G
#1195 [07:22] <Kealper> it should just work with the minecraft_server.exe...
#1196 [07:22] <Wesley> but yester day and the last 2 weeks my servers works, only today not
#1197 [07:23] <Kealper> TrudleR: bukkit has lots of potential, but it's not ready yet, and last i heard, they will try to update hmod so people can have mods while they make theirs
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#1200 [07:23] <Kealper> Wesley: have you restarted your computer (like...totally shut it down and powered it back on)
#1201 [07:23] <TheBix> hey guys
#1202 [07:23] <TheBix> I need help
#1203 [07:23] <Kealper> TheBix: with?
#1204 [07:24] <TheBix> run minecraft thru command line and it can't access the internet
#1205 [07:24] <TheBix> and therefore can't log in
#1206 [07:24] <TheBix> but run otherwise and its fine
#1207 [07:24] <TheBix> whats my problem
#1208 [07:24] <Kealper> TheBix: os?
#1209 [07:24] <TheBix> windows 7
#1210 [07:24] <Kealper> hmm....antivirus software or firewall software?
#1211 [07:25] <TheBix> maybe but I don't see how command line would screw that up
#1212 [07:25] <TheBix> also all firewalls let programs connect. its only listening that it blocks
#1213 [07:26] <Kealper> oh....it only doesn't work when using cli stuff?
#1214 [07:26] <TheBix> yes.
#1215 [07:26] <Kealper> TheBix: standard procedure to ask those
#1216 [07:26] <TrudleR> Kealper how do you set up a server? with the official setup program?
#1217 [07:26] <TheBix> ask what?
#1218 [07:26] <Kealper> and the firewall that i run on my server does block outgoing connections, too
#1219 [07:27] <Kealper> TrudleR: for the most part you just run minecraft_server.exe in it's own folder
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#1221 [07:28] <Wesley> Kealper
#1222 [07:28] <Kealper> hmm?
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#1224 [07:29] <Wesley> when i reinstalled the server, and start it with normal World and settings its all fine, but when i put my own world in the directory of the server and changed the name in the Serverlog then i get that error
#1225 [07:29] <TheBix> any ideas?
#1226 [07:29] <Kealper> TheBix: after some pondering....i really don't know :/
#1227 [07:29] <TheBix> wait
#1228 [07:30] <TheBix> I think I got it
#1229 [07:30] <TheBix> waut
#1230 [07:30] <Kealper> Wesley: then that map you are trying to use is corrupt:/
#1231 [07:30] <TheBix> nooo
#1232 [07:30] <Wesley> how, and why i used 2 weeks long
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#1234 [07:31] <Kealper> maps are quite easy to be corrupted, they thousands of little files
#1235 [07:31] <Kealper> and if the right ones get messed up, the whole map is lost :/
#1236 [07:32] <Adidass> who can help me with my own server with teamviewer ?
#1237 [07:32] <Kealper> Mojang is addressing this problem, and they will be redoing the format so it will be one large file, and not 10k small ones (there will be a map converter)
#1238 [07:33] <Kealper> Adidass: i'm not too fond of teamviewer, but i can try and help you through here
#1239 [07:33] <Adidass> k
#1240 [07:33] <Kealper> what issues are you running in to?
#1241 [07:34] <Kealper> dotdotdot
#1242 [07:34] <Valium> ^---^---^
#1243 [07:34] <Kealper> also...since there are lots of people needing help, and only one tired me, if i forget about you, just say my name lol
#1244 [07:34] <Valium> I connected the dots
#1245 [07:34] <Kealper> lol
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#1247 [07:37] <Wesley> kealper thanks for your help
#1248 [07:38] <Wesley> but 1 question
#1249 [07:38] <Kealper> i may have one answer O.o
#1250 [07:38] <Wesley> is there a command line for building on spawn ?
#1251 [07:38] <TheBix> ok
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#1253 [07:38] <TheBix> anyway I've solved it
#1254 [07:38] <Kealper> no, spawn is protected from everyone but server ops
#1255 [07:39] <Kealper> type help inside the server console
#1256 [07:39] <Wesley> what is op ?
#1257 [07:39] <Kealper> op is short for sever operator
#1258 [07:39] <Kealper> an admin, basically
#1259 [07:40] <Wesley> so if im a op i can build there?
#1260 [07:40] <Kealper> yes
#1261 [07:41] <Kealper> just type op yourname inside the server console, where yourname would be your ingame name
#1262 [07:42] <Wesley> ok
#1263 [07:42] <Wesley> thanks for your help!
#1264 [07:42] <Kealper> np
#1265 [07:42] <Wesley> see ya!
#1266 [07:49] <TrudleR> thx kealper and have a nice day =)
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#1269 [07:50] <Kealper> TrudleR: so you got it working?
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#1271 [07:51] <obi-wan> Hey Kealper
#1272 [07:51] <obi-wan> last time i was here my name was guacamole, you remember me?
#1273 [07:51] <Kealper> ello
#1274 [07:51] <TrudleR> i set up the minecraft_server.jar, now i will see
#1275 [07:51] <obi-wan> I got the black screen again after the update
#1276 [07:51] <TrudleR> but maybe i gonna play on a server from a friend
#1277 [07:52] <obi-wan> do you think you could help me once more?
#1278 [07:52] <obi-wan> when you have time i mean
#1279 [07:52] <Kealper> i guess.....i will try something different though, instead of the whole minecraft folder
#1280 [07:53] <obi-wan> kk
#1281 [07:53] <Kealper> check your PMs, i sent you one
#1282 [07:55] <TrudleR> you mean not me, right?
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#1284 [07:58] <Kealper> yea that was directed at obi, sorry lol
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#1294 [08:33] <jscinoz> Hi everyone. I asked this yesterday, but there wasn't anyone around able to help: I'm running Minecraft on 64bit gentoo, using the awesome window manager. I can't seem to properly resize the game window; resizing it leaves the renderer viewport at its original dimensions in the top right corner of the larger window, the rest of the window is black. Also, I use two monitors, but if i try to make the game fullscreen, it goes to 3840x1200
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#1300 [08:42] <jscinoz> think its more window manager specific than distro specific
#1301 [08:45] <Kealper> can't say i've used that window manager, either....i'm not the one to ask for linux help :/
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#1304 [08:52] <Adidass> who can help me with setting op stormcom server ?
#1305 [08:52] <Kealper> what?
#1306 [08:53] <Adidass> can you help me with my own serveR ?
#1307 [08:53] <Kealper> yeah, what part are you having trouble with?
#1308 [08:53] <Adidass> set online to my router
#1309 [08:53] <Adidass> or modem
#1310 [08:54] <Kealper> did you try http://portforward.com
#1311 [08:54] <Kealper> they have an extensive list of router models, and even have instructions on there for minecraft servers
#1312 [08:54] <Adidass> hmm
#1313 [08:55] <Adidass> can u help me with teamviewer ?
#1314 [08:55] <Kealper> i really do not like using teamviewer... :/
#1315 [08:55] <Adidass> oh
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#1317 [08:57] <Adidass> and i have just 1 dns ip xd
#1318 [08:57] <Kealper> that should not matter
#1319 [08:58] <Adidass> h k
#1320 [08:58] <Adidass> i will try it on my own
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#1322 [09:19] <r0w> any recommandation for a dedicated server or VPS located in europe ?
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#1325 [09:29] <ConMan8> Mmph
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#1327 [09:30] <ConMan8> Adidas is shoes
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#1331 [09:38] <Diablothein> Kealper... dude... I found something...
#1332 [09:39] <Kealper> ?
#1333 [09:39] <Phlexx> Hello im having a problem, everytime i attempt to connect into a Multiplayer Server, i keep gettin a message saying Internal exception : Java.io.UTFDataformatexception
#1334 [09:39] <Phlexx> does anyone know what that means?
#1335 [09:40] <Kealper> Phlexx: did you buy the game?
#1336 [09:40] <Phlexx> Obviously, thats how im playing it
#1337 [09:41] <Kealper> that was a relevant question
#1338 [09:41] <Kealper> try connecting to mc.kealper.com
#1339 [09:41] <Phlexx> Im sorry for what?
#1340 [09:42] <Kealper> to see if it's your client, or if you are just trying to connect to servers that have not been updated
#1341 [09:42] <Kealper> if that server works, then we know it's not something wrong with your client, but with the servers you try to play on
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#1343 [09:43] <Phlexx> so what could it be?
#1344 [09:43] <Phlexx> ive logged in here
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#1346 [09:52] <rumpler> hey
#1347 [09:52] <rumpler> i have a problem :/#
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#1349 [09:55] <rumpler> sombody here?
#1350 [10:04] <ConMan8> ..no?
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#1352 [10:06] <mib_irqv7n> who can help me
#1353 [10:08] <mib_irqv7n> i need some help with my router for a own server
#1354 [10:11] <OODavo> mib_irqv7n: What's the issue?
#1355 [10:13] <mib_irqv7n> i have the ip, and that all
#1356 [10:13] <OODavo> You have the server's LAN ip?
#1357 [10:13] <mib_irqv7n> but when i do it to my internetconnection, i cant play..
#1358 [10:14] <mib_irqv7n> i cant find lan ip
#1359 [10:14] <mib_irqv7n> for a SSS server
#1360 [10:14] <OODavo> What operating system does your server have?
#1361 [10:14] <OODavo> (SSS)?
#1362 [10:14] <mib_irqv7n> stormcom server
#1363 [10:14] <OODavo> Oh.
#1364 [10:15] <OODavo> What OS is the server running?
#1365 [10:15] <mib_irqv7n> os ??
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#1367 [10:15] <OODavo> Operating system?
#1368 [10:15] <Lunarblu> !server\
#1369 [10:15] <mib_irqv7n> wampserver
#1370 [10:15] <Lunarblu> thank you aubot
#1371 [10:15] <OODavo> Which version of Windows does it have?
#1372 [10:15] <mib_irqv7n> idk
#1373 [10:15] <OODavo> :|
#1374 [10:16] <mib_irqv7n> i need to download wampserver
#1375 [10:16] <mib_irqv7n> so i did
#1376 [10:16] <OODavo> Um, okay?
#1377 [10:17] <OODavo> We need to find out the server's LAN IP. That's important.
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#1379 [10:17] <OODavo> Are you on the server noww?
#1380 [10:17] <OODavo> -w
#1381 [10:17] <mib_irqv7n> no i cant
#1382 [10:17] <OODavo> ?
#1383 [10:17] <OODavo> Why not?
#1384 [10:17] <mib_irqv7n> i need to open or something with my modem
#1385 [10:18] <OODavo> Yes, that's called port forwarding.
#1386 [10:18] <OODavo> But we need the server's LAN IP to do that anyway.
#1387 [10:19] <mib_59ck51> hello, any idea why im getting a bad packet error everythime i try to log into server?...it says logging in, downloading terrain, and then closes and says bad packet
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#1389 [10:19] <OODavo> By "on the server", I meant "sitting in front of the server with a keyboard and mouse to it".
#1390 [10:19] <OODavo> mib_59ck51: Does this happen on all servers you've tried?
#1391 [10:19] <mib_59ck51> no not on alle
#1392 [10:19] <mib_59ck51> all*
#1393 [10:20] <OODavo> mib_59ck51: It sounds like a connectivity issue between you and the server you're trying to connect to.
#1394 [10:20] <mib_59ck51> i used to access this one server i play on, but cannot join it anymore
#1395 [10:20] <mib_59ck51> ok
#1396 [10:20] <OODavo> Since you're managing to download terrain, you can clearly connect, but perhaps the connection is dropping out.
#1397 [10:21] <OODavo> mib_irqv7n: Are you using this IRC chat on the server or on another computer?
#1398 [10:21] <mib_59ck51> could it be because the server might be old version?
#1399 [10:21] <OODavo> Potentially, yes.
#1400 [10:21] <OODavo> Since it's only that one server (right?), it's probably an issue with the server, and most likely a version issue.
#1401 [10:21] <mib_irqv7n> on the computer
#1402 [10:22] <mib_irqv7n> where my server need to run
#1403 [10:22] <mib_59ck51> ok
#1404 [10:22] <OODavo> mib_irqv7n: Good.
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#1406 [10:23] <OODavo> mib_irqv7n: Okay, hit Windowskey+R to bring up a Run box.
#1407 [10:23] <OODavo> Then enter "cmd.exe" into that box and click OK.
#1408 [10:23] <mib_irqv7n> uhh... do you have teamviewer ?
#1409 [10:24] <OODavo> mib_irqv7n: I haven't got access to it right now, unfortunately.
#1410 [10:24] <mib_irqv7n> hmm
#1411 [10:24] <mib_irqv7n> but i dnt know what you mean
#1412 [10:24] <OODavo> Do you not have a Windows key on your keyboard? :/
#1413 [10:25] <mib_irqv7n> yes
#1414 [10:25] <OODavo> Using the key combination Windows key - R should open up a Run box.
#1415 [10:25] <mib_irqv7n> yes
#1416 [10:25] <mib_irqv7n> appdata
#1417 [10:26] <OODavo> Hmm?
#1418 [10:26] <OODavo> appdata?
#1419 [10:26] <mib_irqv7n> i have it
#1420 [10:26] <mib_irqv7n> %appdata%
#1421 [10:26] <mib_irqv7n> oh no
#1422 [10:26] <mib_irqv7n> just what do i nee dto open ?
#1423 [10:26] <OODavo> We need to open cmd.exe.
#1424 [10:27] <mib_irqv7n> and than ?
#1425 [10:27] <OODavo> We haven't gotten that far yet. Do you have cmd open?
#1426 [10:27] <mib_irqv7n> yes
#1427 [10:28] <OODavo> Now enter "ipconfig | more" into the cmd.
#1428 [10:28] <mib_irqv7n> yes
#1429 [10:28] <OODavo> It should print out a bunch of network related information.
#1430 [10:29] <OODavo> The important one is "IPv4 Address".
#1431 [10:29] <mib_irqv7n> isee
#1432 [10:29] <OODavo> Find that number.
#1433 [10:29] <OODavo> That should be your LAN IP address.
#1434 [10:29] <mib_irqv7n> k
#1435 [10:30] <mib_irqv7n> and than paste it in the internet browser
#1436 [10:30] <OODavo> Um, no.
#1437 [10:30] <OODavo> Unless you're running a Web server on the system.
#1438 [10:30] <mib_irqv7n> nope
#1439 [10:31] <OODavo> If you have the Minecraft server running, you should be able to put that IP address into Minecraft to join the server.
#1440 [10:31] <OODavo> So try that.
#1441 [10:32] <mib_irqv7n> i dnt have it runnin
#1442 [10:32] <mib_irqv7n> g
#1443 [10:32] <mib_irqv7n> it cant be online
#1444 [10:32] <mib_irqv7n> Port Forwarding
#1445 [10:32] <OODavo> Okay, good point.
#1446 [10:33] <OODavo> You don't need port forwarding over a LAN, though.
#1447 [10:33] <OODavo> Just for Internet.
#1448 [10:33] <mib_irqv7n> i dont have lan
#1449 [10:33] <mib_irqv7n> i think
#1450 [10:33] <OODavo> If you start up the server, and then try to connect to that IP from the same computer, it should work.
#1451 [10:33] <mib_irqv7n> i cant start up the server
#1452 [10:34] <OODavo> Are you getting an error?
#1453 [10:34] <mib_irqv7n> idk what you mean
#1454 [10:34] <mib_irqv7n> i have stormcom server
#1455 [10:35] <ConMan8> ?
#1456 [10:35] <ConMan8> You do have LAN
#1457 [10:35] <mib_irqv7n> no wireless
#1458 [10:35] <OODavo> ConMan8: HELP ME HELP THIS PERSON
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#1460 [10:35] <ConMan8> Wireless is WAN
#1461 [10:35] <OODavo> ConMan8: Wireless is still LAN. Internet is WAN.
#1462 [10:35] <ConMan8> OODavo: I have absolutely no idea what they're talking about
#1463 [10:36] <ConMan8> wireless-area-network
#1464 [10:36] <ConMan8> mm?
#1465 [10:36] <OODavo> Wide Area Network.
#1466 [10:36] <OODavo> ;)
#1467 [10:36] <mib_irqv7n> i use stormcom server
#1468 [10:36] <OODavo> Why can't you start it up?
#1469 [10:37] <mib_irqv7n> when i try to join the game
#1470 [10:37] <mib_irqv7n> it says
#1471 [10:37] <mib_irqv7n> server is proberly down
#1472 [10:37] <OODavo> When you actually start the server do you get an error or anything?
#1473 [10:37] <mib_irqv7n> no
#1474 [10:38] <mib_irqv7n> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=6bc67aaab66f99de27e8294dca4c29bd
#1475 [10:38] <mib_irqv7n> thats my server
#1476 [10:38] <OODavo> Wait, wait.
#1477 [10:38] <mib_irqv7n> just try to join
#1478 [10:38] <OODavo> It's a Classic server.
#1479 [10:38] <mib_irqv7n> no
#1480 [10:38] <mib_irqv7n> beta
#1481 [10:39] <mib_irqv7n> stormcom beta server
#1482 [10:39] <OODavo> Beta servers don't use play.jsp
#1483 [10:39] <Kealper> that is a classic server url
#1484 [10:39] <mib_irqv7n> oh
#1485 [10:39] <mib_irqv7n> but i cant join
#1486 [10:40] <Kealper> define can't join? does your game crash at Logging in?
#1487 [10:40] <OODavo> Because you're using a Classic URL for what is apparently a Beta server.
#1488 [10:40] <mib_irqv7n> you dont know what i have
#1489 [10:41] <OODavo> You're trying to host a Beta server, correct?
#1490 [10:42] <ConMan8> That is not a Beta server. That means: It is not a Beta server
#1491 [10:42] <mib_irqv7n> than i gonna download alpha
#1492 [10:42] <OODavo> No, you don't.
#1493 [10:42] <OODavo> There is no Alpha any more.
#1494 [10:42] <mib_irqv7n> it isnt a server from www.minecraft.net
#1495 [10:43] <mib_irqv7n> it isnt that classic one
#1496 [10:43] <Kealper> !server
#1497 [10:43] <Kealper> beta server
#1498 [10:43] <OODavo> Listen to AuBot. It speaks the truth.
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#1500 [10:44] <mib_irqv7n> nooooo
#1501 [10:44] <mib_irqv7n> that isnt it
#1502 [10:44] <Kealper> there is only a beta server and a classic server.....
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#1504 [10:45] <Kealper> classic client connects to classic server, beta client connects to beta server
#1505 [10:45] <mib_irqv7n> ?\
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#1507 [10:45] <mib_irqv7n> http://stormcom.game-host.org/alpha/
#1508 [10:46] <Kealper> that is third party software, and as such, we do not provide any support for it
#1509 [10:46] <Kealper> you'll have to get support off the maker's site
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#1511 [10:47] <mib_irqv7n> k
#1512 [10:47] <mib_irqv7n> bye
#1513 [10:47] <mib_naxos> is everyone auto-banned from #minecraft and #mcchatter? First time I ever tried to join, and I got "You are banned from channel #minecraft"
#1514 [10:48] <Kealper> oh? hmm..let me check....
#1515 [10:48] <OODavo> mib_naxos: Could just be the mibbit default nicks.
#1516 [10:48] <zz> It is
#1517 [10:48] <OODavo> Try setting a real nick.
#1518 [10:48] <mib_naxos> ah
#1519 [10:48] <zz> Or gettign a real client
#1520 [10:48] <OODavo> Yeah, a real client would work too.
#1521 [10:48] <Kealper> looks like any username starting with mib_ is banned
#1522 [10:49] <Kealper> type /nick ImAwesome
#1523 [10:49] <Kealper> or that
#1524 [10:49] <Naxos> :)
#1525 [10:49] <OODavo> Yeah, that works too.
#1526 [10:49] <Naxos> thanks guys
#1527 [10:49] <OODavo> To actually talk in #minecraft you need to register the nick. I think.
#1528 [10:50] <Kealper> yes, so type /msg nickserv help register
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#1530 [10:50] <Naxos> thanks :)
#1531 [10:50] <OODavo> :)
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#1545 [11:39] <claudis> Hi ppl
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#1554 [12:03] <Xaviergmail> !check 96.253.118.75:25565
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#1556 [12:04] <Xaviergmail> D: who disabled it
#1557 [12:04] <dexer> admin??
#1558 [12:04] <Xaviergmail> can someome connect to 96.253.118.75:25565
#1559 [12:04] <CornstarchPudding> Hm?
#1560 [12:04] <CornstarchPudding> !check 96.253.118.75:25565
#1561 [12:05] <dexer> why cant i logg in when i just purchased the game , its says im not premium but they toke money frome my account
#1562 [12:12] <CornstarchPudding> dexer: you just need to be patient
#1563 [12:13] <CornstarchPudding> It should take a day at most
#1564 [12:13] <dexer> okej, couse my brother could play directly
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#1566 [12:16] <Flashfist> I want to set up a minecraft server put I have no access to the router/port forwarding settings. Are there any way to run the server through standard ports?
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#1568 [12:19] <Jorc> Hey can anyone tell me why there's a new kind of wood?
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#1572 [12:20] <Revirix> can someone help me when i try to connect to a server it just keeps saying connecting to server
#1573 [12:20] <andResin> Hey!
#1574 [12:20] <Flashfist> Jorc: Probably just for the look. We'll see if there comes more uses. Right now it's used the same way as ordinary wood.
#1575 [12:20] <andResin> I got some problems today
#1576 [12:21] <Jorc> Ah ok, I dont get what its supposed to be though? It looks more like rock to me
#1577 [12:21] <Flashfist> Haha
#1578 [12:21] <andResin> I cant install JAVA
#1579 [12:21] <andResin> I was trying to uninstall it
#1580 [12:21] <andResin> but now, I cant
#1581 [12:21] <Flashfist> andResin: What have you tried. What do you mean by can't?
#1582 [12:21] <andResin> It says, your PC dont has a .DLL
#1583 [12:22] <Flashfist> Whar dll?
#1584 [12:22] <Flashfist> Waht*
#1585 [12:22] <andResin> and the installation/uninstallation got canelled
#1586 [12:22] <Flashfist> What*
#1587 [12:22] <andResin> I dont kno
#1588 [12:22] <andResin> know*
#1589 [12:22] <Flashfist> Check that
#1590 [12:22] <andResin> It dont say the name
#1591 [12:22] <Flashfist> That's strange =O
#1592 [12:22] <andResin> Its in spanish D:
#1593 [12:25] <andResin> I still cant ):
#1594 [12:26] <andResin> it just say, The installer dont find the .DLL and It can be executed, please contact the support.
#1595 [12:26] <andResin> something like that
#1596 [12:26] <andResin> :/
#1597 [12:26] <andResin> somebody can help me?
#1598 [12:29] <CornstarchPudding> Huuh
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#1600 [12:29] <andResin> somebody can upload his java folder?
#1601 [12:29] <andResin> in program files
#1602 [12:30] <CornstarchPudding> That's not going to work
#1603 [12:30] <andResin> hmm
#1604 [12:30] <andResin> I just deleted mine
#1605 [12:30] <CornstarchPudding> You need the registry entries created by the installer
#1606 [12:30] <andResin> and then I cant install/uninstall
#1607 [12:30] <andResin> how?
#1608 [12:31] <Flashfist> But reinstall Java, over the previous one.
#1609 [12:31] <Flashfist> Can't see how it can't work.
#1610 [12:32] <andResin> I cant uninstall
#1611 [12:32] <andResin> or install
#1612 [12:32] <CornstarchPudding> Make sure you're using an account that has administrative privileges
#1613 [12:34] <andResin> Yes
#1614 [12:34] <andResin> I just got 1 Account
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#1616 [12:38] <andResin> what i need to do? :/
#1617 [12:38] <andResin> an system restore will fix it?
#1618 [12:42] <Mjiig> andResin: what's wrong?
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#1620 [12:43] <andResin> I cant install/uninstall
#1621 [12:43] <andResin> java
#1622 [12:43] <andResin> I just deleted my java folder
#1623 [12:43] <andResin> and now I can't install or uninstall
#1624 [12:44] <Mjiig> what happens when you install? what does java say?
#1625 [12:44] <Mjiig> *when you try to install
#1626 [12:44] <andResin> It says: THe installer dont find a .DLL the installer can execute it, please contact support
#1627 [12:45] <andResin> something like that
#1628 [12:45] <andResin> and then the installation/uninstallation get closed
#1629 [12:45] <Mjiig> your running windows?
#1630 [12:46] <andResin> yes
#1631 [12:46] <andResin> 7-32 bits
#1632 [12:46] <Mjiig> i THINK a system restore should help but i'm not sure
#1633 [12:47] <andResin> and when i try to open minecraft it says
#1634 [12:48] <andResin> The registry refers to a nonexisten java runtime environment installation or the runtime is corrupted
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#1637 [12:51] <Nabi> hello?
#1638 [12:52] <r0w> is someone using HostEurope, Hetzner or something else based in europe to host a server ?
#1639 [12:52] <Nabi> hello?
#1640 [12:52] <thereddeh> ello my lovelies
#1641 [12:53] <Nabi> anyon here an admin?
#1642 [12:53] <Mjiig> andResin: sorry i was afk for a min there
#1643 [12:53] <thereddeh> admin of what ;p
#1644 [12:53] <Nabi> minecraft
#1645 [12:53] <andResin> np
#1646 [12:53] <Nabi> anyone?
#1647 [12:54] <thereddeh> an admin of minecraft?
#1648 [12:54] <Mjiig> andResin: before you try a system restore, i would advise giving a program like CCleaner a shot at clearing the registry
#1649 [12:54] <andResin> let me try that
#1650 [12:54] <Nabi> yes.
#1651 [12:54] <Mjiig> then try reinstalling java
#1652 [12:54] <Nabi> thereddeh: yes of minecraft, know any?
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#1654 [12:55] <Mjiig> Nabi: what do you mean admin of minecraft? someone who has a minecraft server? an employee of mojang? one of the developers?
#1655 [12:55] <thereddeh> what do u need one for
#1656 [12:55] <KillSpammer> Wait
#1657 [12:55] <KillSpammer> What was the question?
#1658 [12:55] * thereddeh waits
#1658 [12:55] <KillSpammer> Someone repeat it for me!
#1659 [12:55] <KillSpammer> NAO!
#1660 [12:55] <Nabi> Well I wanted to be a developer of mojang.
#1661 [12:56] <thereddeh> i think the first qiuestion was: "hello?"
#1662 [12:56] <Nabi> Can anyone here help with that?
#1663 [12:56] <KillSpammer> Nabi!
#1664 [12:56] <KillSpammer> Ok...
#1665 [12:56] <KillSpammer> Do you live in sweden?
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#1667 [12:57] <Nabi> No sir but I speak sweedish
#1668 [12:57] <andResin> What happen if i clean all my registry?
#1669 [12:57] <thereddeh> i think speaking java is more important than swedish ;p
#1670 [12:57] <Miclee> Why would you clean your entire registry?
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#1672 [12:57] <KillSpammer> Nabi you might want to move to sweden :)
#1673 [12:57] <thereddeh> u dont want to clean entire registry :x
#1674 [12:57] <Mjiig> andResin: you don't want to remove all the registry keys ('m not sure that's possible) just let CCleaner have a look for problems
#1675 [12:58] <KillSpammer> He´s only hiring people in sweden
#1676 [12:58] <andResin> or how can I clean just the java registry?
#1677 [12:58] <babyeater> Question for anyone with an answer, can i fix my minecraft because it keeps crashing, or the Java SE binary keeps crashing, even though my drivers are up to date and i reinstalled minecraft.
#1678 [12:58] <Nabi> I have visited there and Im probably gonna take like a 2 month visit there anyways.
#1679 [12:58] <Mjiig> andResin: have you got CCleaner installed (which is a dead useful program to have anyway)
#1680 [12:59] <thereddeh> if u were a dev, what block would u add ;p
#1681 [12:59] <KillSpammer> Babyeater
#1682 [12:59] <KillSpammer> Got an errorlog?
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#1684 [12:59] <KillSpammer> Paste it here: Pastebin.com
#1685 [12:59] <babyeater> I dont know how to gather one, if i did have an error log, i wouldve done exactly that.
#1686 [12:59] <andResin> Yes i got it installed
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#1688 [13:00] <Nabi> Wait, can anybody atleast help with me seeking my job?
#1689 [13:00] <thereddeh> where do u live
#1690 [13:00] <Olyval> hmm do someone here know a popular minecraft survival server ?
#1691 [13:00] <KillSpammer> Ok nabi
#1692 [13:00] <KillSpammer> Spam his twitter :)
#1693 [13:00] <odielag> question. in the start.sh, what does the "1024" value mean/do?
#1694 [13:00] <Nabi> I live in America but about to go on a 2month visit to sweeden.
#1695 [13:00] <KillSpammer> Well...
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#1698 [13:01] <AkekO> Hey guys
#1699 [13:01] <KillSpammer> Let me see if i can find some stuff about joining mojang.
#1700 [13:01] <Mjiig> andResin: fire it up, select registry and clean out all the errors it offers you (you might want to back up the registry first), it's all pretty obvious once your in the program i think
#1701 [13:01] <Nabi> Can you find a staff member I can talk to?
#1702 [13:01] <Mjiig> oh, it offers to back up the registry for you
#1703 [13:01] <KillSpammer> Nabi i can proberly get jeb
#1704 [13:02] <KillSpammer> But it may take a while
#1705 [13:02] <Nabi> ok.
#1706 [13:02] <andResin> how can I make a backup
#1707 [13:02] <andResin> of the registry?
#1708 [13:02] <Mjiig> andResin: it offers to do it for you when you click clean errors
#1709 [13:03] <AkekO> Guys, im having a problem with my SMP server that i got on my computer! The problem is that b4 this new Beta patch for MP i had no problem at all but now when me and my friends try to connect it says Faild to connect Connection Refused. Anyone here knows what to do?
#1710 [13:03] <Nabi> I have been dev of Jagex, Funorb, and Roblox studios. I also was a dev of world of warcraft but that was for a huge project.
#1711 [13:03] <babyeater> All i need to know, is how to get the minecraft errorlog.
#1712 [13:03] <thereddeh> andResin: also make a restorepoint just in case
#1713 [13:03] <Mjiig> thereddeh: a very good point
#1714 [13:04] <andResin> sure
#1715 [13:04] <andResin> Thanks
#1716 [13:04] <KillSpammer> Lol Nabi nice :)
#1717 [13:04] <KillSpammer> What did you do in WoW?
#1718 [13:04] <thereddeh> he made the mr t elf mohawk ;p
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#1720 [13:04] <Nabi> I created many new weapons and banners.
#1721 [13:04] <Nabi> Its was so time consuming but fun.
#1722 [13:05] <AkekO> Guys, im having a problem with my SMP server that i got on my computer! The problem is that b4 this new Beta patch for MP i had no problem at all but now when me and my friends try to connect it says Faild to connect Connection Refused. Anyone here knows what to do?
#1723 [13:05] <AkekO> Please really need help
#1724 [13:05] <AkekO> Want to get the server up asap :(
#1725 [13:05] <xales> AkekO: What IP do you try to use
#1726 [13:06] <Mjiig> andResin: are both server and clients at 1.2 or 1.2_01?
#1727 [13:06] <AkekO> I use my IP i get from the web IPchicken
#1728 [13:06] <Nabi> aI have degrees in Php developement and Game developement. I also made a little banner and did some coding for mozilla. But I dont think that copunts.
#1729 [13:06] <andResin> Yes Mjiig
#1730 [13:06] <AkekO> How do i check the server?
#1731 [13:06] <KillSpammer> I must stay in contact with nabi
#1732 [13:06] <xales> AkekO: You probably need to redo port forwarding then
#1733 [13:06] <AkekO> Oh
#1734 [13:06] <AkekO> Okay
#1735 [13:06] <Mjiig> andResin: have you updated it this week?
#1736 [13:06] <AkekO> ill try that
#1737 [13:06] <AkekO> Ty
#1738 [13:06] <KillSpammer> Maybe i can abuse my kindness and make him do my bidding!
#1739 [13:07] <Mjiig> *that should have been to AkekO
#1740 [13:07] <Nabi> bidding?
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#1742 [13:07] <KillSpammer> :)
#1743 [13:07] <andResin> Yes
#1744 [13:07] <KillSpammer> I know there was a tweet back a while
#1745 [13:07] <KillSpammer> It had an email!
#1746 [13:07] <andResin> I still cant install javA
#1747 [13:07] <KillSpammer> Miclee. you know that email for jobs?
#1748 [13:07] <KillSpammer> At mojang?
#1749 [13:08] <Miclee> Hmm, let me think.
#1750 [13:08] <Mjiig> even after running CCleaner and fixing all registry issues? has the error message changed?
#1751 [13:08] <Miclee> I believe it's simply just jobs@mojang.com
#1752 [13:08] <Nabi> Killspammer when do you think I can get to talk to a employee? Live...
#1753 [13:08] <KillSpammer> Well
#1754 [13:08] <KillSpammer> Sometimes they goto #minecraft
#1755 [13:08] <KillSpammer> But rarely
#1756 [13:08] <KillSpammer> Thats your best chance
#1757 [13:08] <KillSpammer> Or tweet them and hope for the best
#1758 [13:08] <andResin> Its the Same
#1759 [13:09] <Miclee> Nabi, ./query jeb
#1760 [13:09] <Nabi> Are any in #Minecraft right now?
#1761 [13:09] <Mjiig> andResin: what about when you run minecraft?
#1762 [13:09] <KillSpammer> No
#1763 [13:09] <Nabi> jebula?
#1764 [13:09] <Miclee> No, jeb
#1765 [13:09] <thereddeh> jeb is on #nomoresweden ;p
#1766 [13:10] <andResin> same
#1767 [13:10] <andResin> :/
#1768 [13:10] <Nabi> ok I messaged him but hes prolly afk right?
#1769 [13:10] <andResin> The registry refers to a nonexisten java runtime environment installation or the runtime is corrupted
#1770 [13:10] <andResin> it says
#1771 [13:10] <andResin> when I try to open java
#1772 [13:10] <thereddeh> itssaturday and 19:10 in sweden
#1773 [13:10] <andResin> minecraft*
#1774 [13:10] <Nabi> is he afk?
#1775 [13:11] <Miclee> Maybe, Nabi
#1776 [13:11] <Nabi> hmph.
#1777 [13:11] <AkekO> @xales I tried to redo the port opening and i did, but it still says Connection Refused: Connect you got any other ideas?
#1778 [13:11] <xales> AkekO: Is the server running?
#1779 [13:11] <AkekO> Yes
#1780 [13:11] <Mjiig> AkekO: have you updated the server in the last week?
#1781 [13:11] <AkekO> Yes
#1782 [13:12] <AkekO> To beta
#1783 [13:12] <AkekO> I can connect by localhost
#1784 [13:12] <xales> Make sure that both IPs are right (the one you used in the port forward and the one from ipchicken), because they change
#1785 [13:12] <AkekO> Okay
#1786 [13:13] <Nabi> hes not afk anymore.
#1787 [13:13] <Mjiig> andResin: not sure about this, but again in CCleaner go to tools>uninstall search for java and see if there's an option there to uninstall it
#1788 [13:13] <AkekO> Yes they are the same as they were alst week
#1789 [13:13] <AkekO> The problem started when i updtaed my server
#1790 [13:14] <KillSpammer> *In nabi´s mind its like* OMFG YES!!
#1791 [13:14] <thereddeh> ;p
#1792 [13:14] <Nabi> lol
#1793 [13:14] <thereddeh> disappointment in 3....2.....1....
#1794 [13:14] <thereddeh> ;p
#1795 [13:14] <KillSpammer> I want to work at mojang one day :)
#1796 [13:14] <KillSpammer> Nabi perhaps have a twitter?
#1797 [13:15] <KillSpammer> So i can follow you early?
#1798 [13:15] <Nabi> Is he afk again?
#1799 [13:15] <Diablothein> There is a new meaning to the acronym WTF.
#1800 [13:15] <Diablothein> Welcome to Facebook.
#1801 [13:15] <thereddeh> i dont think there are any good jobs for me at mojang;p
#1802 [13:16] <AkekO> Xales you got any other sugestions?
#1803 [13:16] <KillSpammer> The meaning is for things like: WTF my hair is awesome!
#1804 [13:16] <xales> AkekO: If localhost works but the external address doesn't, then you port forwarded wrong
#1805 [13:16] <xales> Its possible its a firewall, but I doubt it in this case
#1806 [13:17] <andResin> Yes mjiig but the uninstaller dont works
#1807 [13:17] <andResin> It get the same problem like whith the installer
#1808 [13:17] <xales> andResin: What exactly does it say
#1809 [13:17] <KillSpammer> Busy tonight xales?
#1810 [13:17] <Mjiig> kk, sometimes the CCleaner one has worked for me when others don't
#1811 [13:17] <AkekO> Okay but let me link a pic on my forwarding 2 sec
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#1813 [13:21] <Lorax> hrm, minecraft still dies silently if you make the mistake of running it full screen on windows and then switching it back
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#1818 [13:32] <Piehti1> I'm experiencing strange issues with railroads since the last update. Can't make proper corners anymore on some positions. Anyone in here to confirm that?
#1819 [13:33] <xales> I think that was fixed
#1820 [13:33] <Piehti1> Hm?
#1821 [13:33] <Piehti1> Not right now.
#1822 [13:34] <andResin> what xales?
#1823 [13:34] <andResin> the error?
#1824 [13:34] <xales> andResin: What error do you get when you try to install or uninstall java
#1825 [13:34] <xales> Type EXACTLY what it says
#1826 [13:36] <ConMan8> I've noticed everyone who's has the problems have called them 'railroads' instead of minecart tracks
#1827 [13:36] <ConMan8> bah
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#1829 [13:36] <i81u812> my track problem was fixed yesterday
#1830 [13:36] * ConMan8 headdesks
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#1832 [13:43] <andResin> Its in spanish
#1833 [13:43] <andResin> :/
#1834 [13:44] <xales> I don't care, type it anyway
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#1837 [13:51] <andResin> `Hay un problema con este paquete de Widnows Installer. Hay un DLL que se requiere para completar esta instalación que no se puede ejecutr
#1838 [13:52] <andResin> Póngase en contacto con el soporte técnico o el proveedor del paquete
#1839 [13:52] <Lorax> it doesn't mention which dll?
#1840 [13:52] <Lorax> it might be in the event log
#1841 [13:52] <OdinsErbe> Hello some German People Here, i Need help about a Online Server :D
#1842 [13:55] <xales> OdinsErbe: What do you need help with?
#1843 [13:57] <xales> andResin: It sounds like your computer is screwed up. Do you have any antivirus software
#1844 [13:58] <andResin> yes
#1845 [13:58] <andResin> I just deleted my Java folder
#1846 [13:59] <xales> Which one would that be?
#1847 [13:59] <xales> Which antivirus program, that is
#1848 [14:02] <andResin> im gonna make a system restore
#1849 [14:02] <andResin> if It dont work
#1850 [14:02] <andResin> i tell u
#1851 [14:02] <andResin> right?
#1852 [14:03] <xales> uhh, I guess
#1853 [14:03] <xales> I don't think system restore will fix anything
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#1855 [14:08] <KillSpammer> :S
#1856 [14:08] <KillSpammer> Why wouldn system restore work?
#1857 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> system restore doesn't work that way
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#1859 [14:10] <SoG|Chief> Can anyone help me with an account issue?
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#1861 [14:11] <mib_dq6qok> hey
#1862 [14:11] <mib_dq6qok> sombody here?
#1863 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1864 [14:11] <mib_dq6qok> can you help me?
#1865 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps, if you tell me what the problem is
#1866 [14:12] <KillSpammer> That might help!
#1867 [14:12] <KillSpammer> Or perhaps
#1868 [14:13] <KillSpammer> We can help him without knowing he´s problem!
#1869 [14:13] <KillSpammer> God wtf!
#1870 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> The answer is 42.
#1871 [14:13] <KillSpammer> Why do i keep getting the ´ letter on this keyboard!
#1872 [14:13] <mib_dq6qok> internal exception java.io.ioexception bad packet id
#1873 [14:13] <KillSpammer> Hap me GreyVulpine
#1874 [14:13] <mib_dq6qok> this is the problem
#1875 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Need to update server
#1876 [14:13] <KillSpammer> Download to minecraft.net
#1877 [14:13] <KillSpammer> at*
#1878 [14:13] <KillSpammer> Its like 5am...
#1879 [14:13] <KillSpammer> Spare me
#1880 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, never.
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#1882 [14:14] <mib_dq6qok> who are you talking to?
#1883 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> Need to update server
#1884 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Was to you
#1885 [14:15] <mib_dq6qok> alright
#1886 [14:15] <mib_dq6qok> i'll try it
#1887 [14:17] <mib_dq6qok> where can i update it?
#1888 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Where did you download the server before?
#1889 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> !server
#1890 [14:17] <mib_dq6qok> minecraft.net
#1891 [14:17] <xales> mib_dq6qok: You are running the server yourself, correct?
#1892 [14:17] <mib_dq6qok> and then the second one for windows
#1893 [14:18] <mib_dq6qok> i'm using hamachi logme in
#1894 [14:18] <mib_dq6qok> a friend send me this one
#1895 [14:18] <xales> mib_dq6qok: What is your username to log into minecraft?
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#1898 [14:19] <mib_dq6qok> why?
#1899 [14:19] <xales> I need to verify you have a minecraft.net account
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#1901 [14:19] <mib_dq6qok> tobiwan_95
#1902 [14:20] <xales> Ok. Are you the one trying to run the server?
#1903 [14:20] <mib_dq6qok> yes
#1904 [14:21] <mib_dq6qok> i think it's because the update
#1905 [14:21] <xales> You need to download it again from minecrat.net
#1906 [14:21] <xales> minecraft.net*
#1907 [14:21] <mib_dq6qok> whcich one
#1908 [14:21] <mib_dq6qok> which one?
#1909 [14:21] <xales> The server
#1910 [14:21] <xales> !server
#1911 [14:23] <mib_dq6qok> java does something?
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#1913 [14:23] <mib_dq6qok> ...
#1914 [14:23] <mib_dq6qok> java is going crazy
#1915 [14:23] <xales> What do you mean
#1916 [14:24] <KillSpammer> Cya!
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#1918 [14:24] <mib_dq6qok> how can i completly deinstall minecraft without delting online/offline server
#1919 [14:25] <xales> Why?
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#1923 [14:26] <mib_dq6qok> to re download it....
#1924 [14:27] <xales> !reinstall
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#1926 [14:28] <mib_dq6qok> java load something, but minecraft doesn't run
#1927 [14:29] <Lunarblu> good day, I looked on the wiki and didn't find this. Is there a way to change the difficulty in beta?
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#1929 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> In SP?
#1930 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> or SMP
#1931 [14:29] <Lunarblu> smp
#1932 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1933 [14:30] <i81u812> can you make a infinite lava spring?
#1934 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> By spawning a source brick of lava, sure
#1935 [14:32] <i81u812> but not containing 4 source bricks in a square without spawning?
#1936 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> No
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#1938 [14:36] <xales> You can't make a lava spring like you can with water
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#1940 [14:38] <xKallius> Umm guys, I seem to have an error in minecraft.
#1941 [14:38] <xKallius> When I click on sound, or music.
#1942 [14:38] <xKallius> It crashes.
#1943 [14:38] <xKallius> Any idea?
#1944 [14:38] <xales> What is the error when it crashes?
#1945 [14:38] <xKallius> Umm hold on
#1946 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> Please paste it at www.pastebin.com
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#1950 [14:39] <bobbylelapin> i need help with launching my server
#1951 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
#1952 [14:39] <bobbylelapin> when i lauch it it says low ram
#1953 [14:39] <xKallius> http://pastebin.com/aujmLDFG
#1954 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you have on your computer?
#1955 [14:40] <bobbylelapin> 3g
#1956 [14:40] <ChauffeR> hsdpa
#1957 [14:40] <xales> Are you running Windows 7?
#1958 [14:40] <xales> bobbylelapin
#1959 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM are you trying to launch it with?
#1960 [14:40] <bobbylelapin> nop vista(i know i fail)
#1961 [14:40] <izzd> I have a crash where it cuts my inet and I have to restart my PC to get back online?
#1962 [14:41] <xKallius> Sorry to interrupt, Do you guys have any idea about the error report I sent?
#1963 [14:41] <xales> izzd: Does it have an error?
#1964 [14:41] <xales> xKallius: Is that in Classic or Beta?
#1965 [14:41] <xKallius> Beta
#1966 [14:41] <izzd> not sure
#1967 [14:41] <izzd> where would the error show?
#1968 [14:41] <xales> xKallius: Do you have any mods installed?
#1969 [14:41] <xKallius> Yes
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#1971 [14:42] <xales> izzd: In a text file in the same folder with minecraft.exe or on your desktop
#1972 [14:42] <andResin> Hey
#1973 [14:42] <xales> xKallius: That is probably why
#1974 [14:42] <andResin> My sistem is restored
#1975 [14:42] <andResin> now when I open minecraft
#1976 [14:42] <xKallius> Ahh okay, thank you.
#1977 [14:42] <andResin> nothing happened
#1978 [14:43] <Lorax> andResin: did you re-install java?
#1979 [14:43] <bobbylelapin> it gives a link to launch directly but i dunno where t put that link
#1980 [14:43] <izzd> I have alot on my desktop, but I dont know which one is the right one :S
#1981 [14:43] <xales> bobbylelapin: What is the link? Paste it
#1982 [14:43] <xales> izzd: The latest one
#1983 [14:43] <bobbylelapin> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#1984 [14:43] <izzd> I may have crashed again since I'm not sure
#1985 [14:44] <xales> Just use the .exe version, bobbylelapin
#1986 [14:44] <bobbylelapin> oh ok
#1987 [14:44] <bobbylelapin> but the .exe is the same
#1988 [14:45] <bobbylelapin> makes the same thing
#1989 [14:45] <izzd> it starts with blocks returning after i have smashed them
#1990 [14:45] <xales> bobbylelapin: Then your computer doesn't have enough free RAM.
#1991 [14:45] <xales> Close every other program and then try
#1992 [14:45] <andResin> not yet
#1993 [14:45] <andResin> im gonna reinstall
#1994 [14:45] <bobbylelapin> hot to get some67
#1995 [14:46] <bobbylelapin> ?
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#1997 [14:46] <xales> bobbylelapin: You have to close every other program.
#1998 [14:47] <bobbylelapin> ok
#1999 [14:47] <bobbylelapin> so this link means nothing?
#2000 [14:47] <bobbylelapin> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#2001 [14:47] <xales> Yes
#2002 [14:47] <xales> In your case, it means nothing.
#2003 [14:48] <bobbylelapin> lol
#2004 [14:48] <bobbylelapin> but what is this for?
#2005 [14:48] <bobbylelapin> to open from java console?
#2006 [14:48] <xales> If you want to run a server using the jar file
#2007 [14:48] <xales> Which you have no reason to
#2008 [14:48] <bobbylelapin> wuts the difference between them?
#2009 [14:49] <xales> The EXE is easier to use
#2010 [14:49] <xales> The jar is mostly for running with mods or on Linux/Mac
#2011 [14:49] <bobbylelapin> okok
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#2013 [14:49] <xales> If you can't get the EXE to run, it doesn't matter.
#2014 [14:50] <bobbylelapin> i tryied it
#2015 [14:50] <bobbylelapin> works on both
#2016 [14:50] <xales> If you get RAM errors, then its not working.
#2017 [14:50] <bobbylelapin> kk
#2018 [14:51] <xales> As I said, you need to close every other program on your computer to free RAM for minecraft to use
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#2020 [14:51] <bobbylelapin> ok but just so you know im actually running my server on jar file with the notification of not enough ram and its actually working
#2021 [14:52] <andResin> Thanks
#2022 [14:52] <andResin> My MC is working again :)
#2023 [14:52] <xales> By actually working you mean you can actually connect to it, bobbylelapin?
#2024 [14:52] <bobbylelapin> yes
#2025 [14:52] <i81u812> does lava have any lighting properties?
#2026 [14:53] <xales> i81u812: It gives off light, yes
#2027 [14:53] <i81u812> from below...
#2028 [14:53] <i81u812> ?
#2029 [14:53] <xales> bobbylelapin: If you get RAM errors, very few people will be able to play at the same time
#2030 [14:53] <xales> i81u812: ?
#2031 [14:53] <xales> From below what?
#2032 [14:53] <bobbylelapin> ok tx xales
#2033 [14:54] <i81u812> Im making an indoor tree farm in the sky and I wanted to use lava inside glass as a ambient lighting source for the trees
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#2035 [14:54] <xales> i81u812: Look up lava on the wiki, I'm not sure how much light it gives off compared to a torch
#2036 [14:54] <i81u812> so when im below the lava it isint very bright but will it still work
#2037 [14:54] <i81u812> ok
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#2042 [15:03] <Chen> So.
#2043 [15:04] <Chen> What about redstone clocks/repeater chains lag the game?
#2044 [15:04] <Chen> Is it just the clocks that lag SMP, or do longass chains of repeaters lag the server?
#2045 [15:09] <CruelNoise> well, it takes your computer's resources.
#2046 [15:09] <CruelNoise> So it's probably not lag so much as taking longer to process frames
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#2055 [15:31] <squiggy> Hello
#2056 [15:32] <CruelNoise> Hi.
#2057 [15:32] <CruelNoise> ass
#2058 [15:32] <xales> Ask question, leave minute later
#2059 [15:32] <CruelNoise> xales: nonono, he didn't even ask the question
#2060 [15:32] <xales> Even worse then
#2061 [15:32] <Lorax> drive by IRCing
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#2064 [15:38] <PurpleP> Someone here?:)
#2065 [15:39] <CruelNoise> hmmhhmm
#2066 [15:39] <CruelNoise> yeah
#2067 [15:39] <xales> PurpleP: yes
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#2069 [15:41] <PurpleP> nice
#2070 [15:41] <PurpleP> i got a question then:P
#2071 [15:41] <PurpleP> IS there someone who knows how to set up a server so me and my friend can play surv together?
#2072 [15:42] <xales> Yes
#2073 [15:42] <xales> Can you tell me your minecraft username?
#2074 [15:45] <xales> PurpleP: ?
#2075 [15:46] <PurpleP> PurplePower
#2076 [15:46] <PurpleP> it is^^
#2077 [15:47] <xales> ok, thanks
#2078 [15:47] <PurpleP> why do u need it?
#2079 [15:48] <xales> To verify you own the game
#2080 [15:48] <PurpleP> ahh
#2081 [15:48] <xales> A lot of people come in here asking for help to play pirate copies
#2082 [15:48] <xales> Especially with the new version =/
#2083 [15:48] <xales> Anyway, where do you get stuck when you try to run the server?
#2084 [15:48] <PurpleP> the file thingy i download
#2085 [15:48] <PurpleP> is just blank for me
#2086 [15:49] <PurpleP> i'm trying to figure out how to even start it
#2087 [15:49] <xales> What do you mean it is blank?
#2088 [15:49] <PurpleP> u know
#2089 [15:49] <PurpleP> when u download the minecraft game
#2090 [15:49] <PurpleP> the 1st download link
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#2092 [15:49] <PurpleP> doesn't work for me
#2093 [15:49] <PurpleP> but the other does
#2094 [15:49] <PurpleP> and then u have a block
#2095 [15:49] <PurpleP> a grass block^^
#2096 [15:49] <PurpleP> but the 1st download link
#2097 [15:50] <PurpleP> only gives me like a blank page
#2098 [15:50] <PurpleP> and i can't run it
#2099 [15:50] <PurpleP> the same with the mulitplayer server thingy
#2100 [15:50] <xales> !server
#2101 [15:50] <PurpleP> i can't click it^.-
#2102 [15:50] <xales> Copy it into the browser then
#2103 [15:50] <Jeremy> i dont mean to interrupt, but how do i make a backup of a map on my server?
#2104 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Jeremy - Make a copy of the /world/ folder
#2105 [15:51] <PurpleP> now it seems to be right
#2106 [15:51] <lemon-rev> hey help :)
#2107 [15:52] <Jeremy> GreyVulpine - and to restore a map, just overwrite the /world/ folder with an earlier backup?
#2108 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2109 [15:52] <Jeremy> thanks
#2110 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Not just replace, but delete the previous /world folder
#2111 [15:52] <PurpleP> do u mind helping me step to step how 2 start a server?
#2112 [15:52] <Jeremy> oh okay
#2113 [15:53] <PurpleP> how do i find my server now?
#2114 [15:53] <xales> PurpleP: You just run the .EXE file
#2115 [15:54] <PurpleP> hm?
#2116 [15:54] <PurpleP> u mean minecraft?
#2117 [15:55] <xales> No, the server
#2118 [15:55] <xales> You download the server exe file then you run it...
#2119 [15:55] <PurpleP> yes i did
#2120 [15:55] <PurpleP> it's a java window
#2121 [15:55] <PurpleP> and says the server is up and running
#2122 [15:55] <PurpleP> but how do i get in to it?
#2123 [15:56] <SkiingPenguins> open your client go to multiplayer then type 127.0.0.1
#2124 [15:56] <xales> ^
#2125 [15:56] <PurpleP> user not premium it says then^.-
#2126 [15:56] <Lorax> PurpleP: for your friend to connect, you will need a routable IP on the edge of your network
#2127 [15:56] <PurpleP> and how exactly do i fix that?
#2128 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> PurpleP - Do you have a premium account?
#2129 [15:57] <xales> PurpleP: If it says user not premium then you are logging in with an account that hasn't paid for Minecraft
#2130 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft?
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#2132 [15:57] <PurpleP> i have
#2133 [15:57] <PurpleP> payd for minecrad
#2134 [15:57] <PurpleP> ft
#2135 [15:57] <PurpleP> 2 months ago
#2136 [15:57] <PurpleP> atleast
#2137 [15:57] <PurpleP> played all time
#2138 [15:57] <xales> What username are you trying to log in with?
#2139 [15:57] <PurpleP> but now
#2140 [15:57] <PurpleP> PurplePower still
#2141 [15:58] <PurpleP> since the last patch
#2142 [15:58] <PurpleP> i havn't been able to run the .exe ordinaru
#2143 [15:58] <xales> Does it say user not premium when you try to connect to your server or when you open minecraft
#2144 [15:58] <PurpleP> when i open minecraft
#2145 [15:58] <PurpleP> log in
#2146 [15:58] <PurpleP> it says "can't connect to minecraft.net
#2147 [15:58] <PurpleP> and i gotta play offline
#2148 [15:59] <PurpleP> firewall?
#2149 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Can you ping minecraft.net via your command prompt?
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#2151 [15:59] <Kealper> !paid PurplePower
#2152 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> See what IP it resolves to?
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#2154 [15:59] <Kealper> lag?
#2155 [15:59] <PurpleP> i am paid aint i?
#2156 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> That account is, yes
#2157 [15:59] <xales> Kealper, it seems to work
#2158 [15:59] <Kealper> aubot...
#2159 [15:59] <PurpleP> ye
#2160 [15:59] <PurpleP> it should work
#2161 [15:59] <PurpleP> but it isn't
#2162 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> PurpleP - Can you ping minecraft.net?
#2163 [15:59] <PurpleP> ping?
#2164 [16:00] <Kealper> PurpleP: can you even go to http://minecraft.net ?
#2165 [16:00] <PurpleP> yes i can
#2166 [16:00] <SkiingPenguins> open a console and type 'ping minecraft.net' <-- that's what pinging is
#2167 [16:00] <PurpleP> i am on it now
#2168 [16:00] <PurpleP> though it's a bit laggy
#2169 [16:00] <Kealper> that's just the site right now
#2170 [16:00] <Kealper> lol
#2171 [16:00] <PurpleP> yer understood that
#2172 [16:01] <PurpleP> computer in swedish isn't so easy to translate when it comes to this
#2173 [16:01] <PurpleP> gah
#2174 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> What ip address is it pinging?
#2175 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> xx.xx.xx.xx
#2176 [16:01] <PurpleP> i havn't done that thing yet
#2177 [16:01] <PurpleP> since i do not follow u
#2178 [16:02] <PurpleP> but give me 2 sec
#2179 [16:02] <PurpleP> and ill show u what it says when i log in
#2180 [16:02] <lemon-rev> purplep start / run / type cmd / type in the box ping www.minecraft.net
#2181 [16:02] <Kealper> PurpleP: what browser do you use? Internet Explorer?
#2182 [16:02] <Kealper> and what they are saying
#2183 [16:03] <xales> lemon-rev: What is this, 1997? www. isn't required on a real website
#2184 [16:03] <PurpleP> http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder-a/sadadsdas-146.png
#2185 [16:03] <PurpleP> i use IE yes
#2186 [16:03] <lemon-rev> hm
#2187 [16:03] <lemon-rev> depends , theres two types of say www but you get that
#2188 [16:03] <Kealper> hmmmmm....that is weird indeed...
#2189 [16:03] <xales> Login Failed means your password is wrong
#2190 [16:03] <xales> usually
#2191 [16:03] <xales> PurpleP: Can you log in on minecraft.net?
#2192 [16:03] <PurpleP> i can press
#2193 [16:03] <PurpleP> yes
#2194 [16:03] <PurpleP> i can
#2195 [16:03] <PurpleP> it sais
#2196 [16:03] <PurpleP> play offline
#2197 [16:03] <SkiingPenguins> you could try deleting your lastlogin file maybe?
#2198 [16:04] <xales> PurpleP: If you use play offline you can't play multiplayer
#2199 [16:04] <PurpleP> i feel like an idiot and your all trying to fix mex)
#2200 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Could you please ping minecraft.net?
#2201 [16:04] <PurpleP> gonna check the site again
#2202 [16:04] <PurpleP> ok
#2203 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> PurpleP?
#2204 [16:04] <PurpleP> tell me
#2205 [16:04] <PurpleP> exactly how 2 do
#2206 [16:04] <PurpleP> im in the cmd
#2207 [16:04] <PurpleP> now
#2208 [16:04] <PurpleP> what to write
#2209 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> <lemon-rev> purplep start / run / type cmd / type in the box ping www.minecraft.net
#2210 [16:04] <xales> type 'ping minecraft.net'
#2211 [16:04] <xales> and press enter
#2212 [16:05] <PurpleP> 1994.28.147.42
#2213 [16:05] <PurpleP> take away a 9
#2214 [16:05] <PurpleP> 194
#2215 [16:05] <PurpleP> 160 ms
#2216 [16:05] <lysandergray> 147? Not 157?
#2217 [16:05] <PurpleP> yes 157-.- sloppy i am sry
#2218 [16:06] <PurpleP> 194.28.157.42
#2219 [16:06] <lysandergray> And is it replying, or is it saying "request timed out"?
#2220 [16:06] <PurpleP> when?
#2221 [16:06] <PurpleP> doesn't say anything
#2222 [16:06] <PurpleP> about timing
#2223 [16:06] <lysandergray> after the line with "194.28.157.42"
#2224 [16:06] <SkiingPenguins> im pinging it and it's timing out quite a bit
#2225 [16:06] <PurpleP> byte:32 time:160ms TTL:50
#2226 [16:07] <PurpleP> only thing after
#2227 [16:07] <PurpleP> no timing
#2228 [16:07] <PurpleP> and i really can't print it since it's in swedish
#2229 [16:08] <SkiingPenguins> so it looks something like "Reply from 194.28.157.42: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=45" ??
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#2231 [16:08] <PurpleP> http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder-a/sadadsdas-913.png
#2232 [16:08] <PurpleP> yes
#2233 [16:08] <PurpleP> exactly like that
#2234 [16:09] <PurpleP> but 60
#2235 [16:09] <PurpleP> 50
#2236 [16:09] <PurpleP> not 45
#2237 [16:09] <SkiingPenguins> i have no idea why you cant login then
#2238 [16:09] <PurpleP> strange shit...
#2239 [16:10] <PurpleP> ima see if i can play it in the browser
#2240 [16:10] <lysandergray> Perhaps his client isn't being allowed through the Windows firewall..
#2241 [16:10] <PurpleP> worked yesterday
#2242 [16:10] <PurpleP> yer
#2243 [16:10] <PurpleP> i gonna check the FW
#2244 [16:10] <PurpleP> though
#2245 [16:10] <PurpleP> it worked be4 the patc
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#2247 [16:10] <lysandergray> If you can load minecraft.net, and it responds to ping, and you're sure you have the right password... only thing I can think of is firewall is blocking outgoing.
#2248 [16:11] <PurpleP> in the browser it's working
#2249 [16:11] <PurpleP> yes probably
#2250 [16:11] <PurpleP> but i have no idea
#2251 [16:12] <PurpleP> why the firewall just would say
#2252 [16:12] <PurpleP> "i'm gonna block minecraft now after 2 months of usage"
#2253 [16:12] <xales> PurpleP: Does it give you 'user not premium' only when you try to connect to your server?
#2254 [16:12] <PurpleP> yes
#2255 [16:12] <PurpleP> or
#2256 [16:12] <PurpleP> when i try to do it online
#2257 [16:12] <PurpleP> trhough the .exe
#2258 [16:13] <lysandergray> PurpleP: did the message "User not premium" show up when you clicked "Play Offline" and then connected to server?
#2259 [16:13] <PurpleP> yes
#2260 [16:13] <PurpleP> i press play offline
#2261 [16:13] <PurpleP> and then multiplayer
#2262 [16:13] <xales> If you press play offline, it will not work
#2263 [16:13] <PurpleP> type in the 127 thingy
#2264 [16:13] <PurpleP> well obv
#2265 [16:13] <PurpleP> but i can't play it online
#2266 [16:13] <PurpleP> since
#2267 [16:13] <PurpleP> it says i can't connect to minecraft.net
#2268 [16:14] <xales> It is probably your firewall then
#2269 [16:14] <PurpleP> well
#2270 [16:14] <PurpleP> it has never been like this
#2271 [16:14] <PurpleP> but yes probably
#2272 [16:14] <SkiingPenguins> maybe deleting the C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\lastlogin would help? that's where it stores your login name i think
#2273 [16:14] <PurpleP> can try
#2274 [16:15] <PurpleP> there is no lastlogin
#2275 [16:15] <PurpleP> in the.minceraft file
#2276 [16:15] <SkiingPenguins> that's weird, there is for me
#2277 [16:15] <lysandergray> PurpleP: I am curious, does your username or password contain any swedish characters?
#2278 [16:15] <SkiingPenguins> along with a options.txt and some folders
#2279 [16:15] <PurpleP> no
#2280 [16:16] <PurpleP> no swedish characters^^
#2281 [16:16] <PurpleP> i try to keep away from them
#2282 [16:16] <PurpleP> since it can get fuckd
#2283 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Not having a lastlogin would probably be the problem
#2284 [16:16] <PurpleP> well
#2285 [16:16] <PurpleP> i can delete all minecraft files
#2286 [16:16] <PurpleP> and download from the site again
#2287 [16:16] <PurpleP> but i did that yesterday
#2288 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Save your /saves/ folder
#2289 [16:16] <PurpleP> and didn't work
#2290 [16:16] <PurpleP> there are nothing in saves
#2291 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2292 [16:16] <PurpleP> i tend to start over^^
#2293 [16:17] <PurpleP> it's a 0.8 mb file
#2294 [16:17] <PurpleP> so
#2295 [16:17] <xales> PurpleP: Try shutting off your firewall
#2296 [16:17] <SkiingPenguins> you should clear IE's cache also
#2297 [16:17] <SkiingPenguins> could cause you to download an old client
#2298 [16:17] <PurpleP> u mean cookies?
#2299 [16:18] <PurpleP> and thingys
#2300 [16:18] <PurpleP> will do that
#2301 [16:18] <SkiingPenguins> yea the history, cookies, etc..
#2302 [16:18] <SkiingPenguins> it's in along with those i think. i use chrome, so i dont know what it's called in IE
#2303 [16:18] <PurpleP> i got it
#2304 [16:19] <PurpleP> file removed
#2305 [16:19] <PurpleP> gonna download again
#2306 [16:20] <PurpleP> now everything froze
#2307 [16:20] <lysandergray> What do you mean?
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#2309 [16:21] <PurpleP> not working same thing "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2310 [16:21] <Nabi> Hey guys
#2311 [16:21] <PurpleP> gonna shut off firewall
#2312 [16:21] <PurpleP> nope
#2313 [16:21] <PurpleP> still not working
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#2315 [16:21] <PurpleP> even if i click the "remember me"
#2316 [16:21] <PurpleP> it doesn't remember me
#2317 [16:22] <lysandergray> It will only remember you on a succesful login. :|
#2318 [16:22] <Nabi> What up.
#2319 [16:22] <PurpleP> probablt
#2320 [16:22] <PurpleP> gonna run trhough browser then
#2321 [16:22] <PurpleP> and then trhough .exe
#2322 [16:22] <SkiingPenguins> does the browser make a lastlogin file?
#2323 [16:23] <PurpleP> nope
#2324 [16:23] <PurpleP> or
#2325 [16:23] <PurpleP> wait
#2326 [16:23] <PurpleP> gonna check
#2327 [16:23] <PurpleP> nope
#2328 [16:23] <PurpleP> it doesn't
#2329 [16:23] <PurpleP> run in another browser then?
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#2331 [16:24] <xales> PurpleP: That won't help
#2332 [16:24] <PurpleP> then i'm in deep shit?
#2333 [16:24] <xales> What happens when you try to run it in the browser?
#2334 [16:24] <xales> What error do you get
#2335 [16:24] <PurpleP> in the browser it works
#2336 [16:24] <PurpleP> perfectly
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#2338 [16:24] <xales> Then the problem would be a firewall
#2339 [16:25] <PurpleP> i turnd it off
#2340 [16:25] <PurpleP> nothing changed
#2341 [16:25] <xales> Are you sure?
#2342 [16:25] <xales> What firewall is it
#2343 [16:25] <PurpleP> avast
#2344 [16:25] <Wolliwonker> Hey, I've bought a key from an other website then minecraft. Is it a gift key or where do I have to type it in
#2345 [16:25] <PurpleP> it's still off
#2346 [16:26] <PurpleP> if u bought it from another site how do u know it's right^.-
#2347 [16:26] <xales> Wolliwonker: try http://minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
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#2349 [16:26] <PurpleP> hmm
#2350 [16:26] <PurpleP> this feels abit
#2351 [16:26] <PurpleP> idiotic
#2352 [16:26] <PurpleP> well
#2353 [16:26] <PurpleP> i suppose i just have 2 play it in the browser all time
#2354 [16:27] <xales> PurpleP: If the exe doesn't work but the browser does, then something is blocking it from connecting to the internet
#2355 [16:27] <PurpleP> yes
#2356 [16:27] <PurpleP> but if i turnd of the virus thingy
#2357 [16:27] <xales> Not virus protection
#2358 [16:27] <PurpleP> ?
#2359 [16:27] <xales> Firewall is a different thing
#2360 [16:27] <lysandergray> To minecraft.net or its login to be more precise. I suppose SMP servers probably still respond with "not premium" if he clicks play offline.
#2361 [16:28] <PurpleP> how do i fix my firewall then^.-
#2362 [16:28] <lysandergray> Although PurpleP only mentioned connecting to 127...
#2363 [16:28] <xales> PurpleP: Turn it off
#2364 [16:28] <PurpleP> where:O
#2365 [16:28] <PurpleP> xD
#2366 [16:28] <lysandergray> PurpleP: Click the Start menu, type "firewall" in the search box there and locate "Windows Firewall". Click that, then on the window that opens, on the left-hand pane, click on Turn "Windows Firewall on or off".
#2367 [16:29] <xales> lysandergray: I'm thinking a 3rd party firewall would more likely be the issue
#2368 [16:29] <xales> but always best to turn that off too
#2369 [16:29] <SkiingPenguins> i'd just disable every single little antivirus/firewall/antimalware thing you got then try it.. that would rule them out
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#2371 [16:30] <Wolliwonker> @ @axales: I tried it, but it told me that the key is wrong or has been usen already. It starts with : and then there are 11 numbers 6 letters and than 1 number does this look like a gift key?
#2372 [16:30] <PurpleP> gonna try
#2373 [16:30] <PurpleP> now it's off
#2374 [16:30] <xales> Wolliwonker: No, that is not a gift key
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#2376 [16:30] <xales> Keys are in the format xxxx-xxxx-xxxx
#2377 [16:30] <PurpleP> bope
#2378 [16:30] <PurpleP> it's still not working
#2379 [16:30] <xales> PurpleP: Do you have any other 'security' programs?
#2380 [16:31] <PurpleP> nope
#2381 [16:31] <PurpleP> off
#2382 [16:31] <Wolliwonker> I will write the support because people told me that they've bought theirs at that side an it works
#2383 [16:31] <Wolliwonker> thanks
#2384 [16:31] <PurpleP> it's noporblems i suppose
#2385 [16:31] <lysandergray> Wolliwonker: why would you buy a key from another website? What website is it anyway?
#2386 [16:31] <xales> Wolliwonker: What site is it?
#2387 [16:31] <xales> PurpleP: noporblems?
#2388 [16:31] <SkiingPenguins> as in he gives up, xales
#2389 [16:32] <xales> ah
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#2391 [16:32] <PurpleP> yes x)
#2392 [16:33] <Wolliwonker> it is http://minecraft-store.w2c.ru/ and i bought it there because its cheaper and it supports paysafe cards
#2393 [16:33] <PurpleP> ill just play it trhough the browser
#2394 [16:33] <lysandergray> Oh god.. that website.. it just... reeks
#2395 [16:33] <lysandergray> I could tell from just reading the CSS
#2396 [16:33] <Wolliwonker> but friends of mine told me that they bought it there
#2397 [16:34] <SkiingPenguins> why is it cheaper? O_o
#2398 [16:34] <Wolliwonker> they said because they get it cheaper because they buy lots of keys
#2399 [16:34] <xales> Wolliwonker: It looks like a scam, and there is no volume discount
#2400 [16:35] <PurpleP> Thank you for your time
#2401 [16:35] <Wolliwonker> If that is true I have to kick some asses at monday
#2402 [16:35] <SkiingPenguins> it looks sort of scammy
#2403 [16:35] <xales> Wolliwonker: It is almost 100% a scam
#2404 [16:35] <lysandergray> That makes three of us
#2405 [16:35] <xales> Even shitty McAfee doesn't like it. http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/w2c.ru/summary/
#2406 [16:35] <SkiingPenguins> hahaha
#2407 [16:35] <PurpleP> Gah:(
#2408 [16:35] <PurpleP> Unsolved problem!
#2409 [16:36] <lysandergray> PurpleP: did you find the Solution?
#2410 [16:36] <PurpleP> Solution: Play in browser
#2411 [16:36] <PurpleP> Still
#2412 [16:37] <PurpleP> i do not get the loginsave thing
#2413 [16:37] <PurpleP> or what it said
#2414 [16:37] <Wolliwonker> Yes but McAfee dont likes it for another reason
#2415 [16:38] <xales> Wolliwonker: Buying things for cheaper than they really are from sites that spam people to advertise and links to adware...is a really fucking stupid idea
#2416 [16:38] <Wolliwonker> that people where guys i know in rl
#2417 [16:38] <Wolliwonker> *were
#2418 [16:39] <Wolliwonker> so can you tell me a trustable site where i can get keys with paysafe cards
#2419 [16:39] <xales> Wolliwonker: There are none.
#2420 [16:40] <Wolliwonker> Aha. Thanks a lot I have to make a call...
#2421 [16:40] <SkiingPenguins> or maybe a visit?
#2422 [16:40] <xales> Wolliwonker: The site distributes viruses. I don't think it is legitimate
#2423 [16:42] <lysandergray> Problem. I'm hosting a server on Windows 7 x64 on an Atheros AR8121 and can connect to it only from inside localhost. Any remote attempts get stuck at "Logging in...". The host has a public IP and doesn't and hasn't ever needed port forwarding. All firewalls are down.
#2424 [16:42] <PurpleP> i don't get why u even would think something is cheaper than it should be:O
#2425 [16:42] <SkiingPenguins> lysandergray may i try to connect to it?
#2426 [16:43] <lysandergray> Sure, I'll query you the address in a milisecond.
#2427 [16:44] <xales> lysandergray: "Logging in..." means its having issues verifying the account on minecraft.net
#2428 [16:44] <lysandergray> xales: what if I set online-mode to false?
#2429 [16:45] <xales> lysandergray: That is probably a bad idea. Bad things tend to happen to servers with online-mode off
#2430 [16:45] <lysandergray> xales: I've set up a new server just now, but I clearly recall always trying with offline-mode=false, and people stil lcan't connect.
#2431 [16:45] <SkiingPenguins> i have a valid paid account and i cannot connect to his server.. it's stuck at logging in...
#2432 [16:45] <PurpleP> Well thank you again for your time
#2433 [16:46] <xales> If offline-mode is false and its stuck at Loggin In...well, it shouldn't do that
#2434 [16:46] <PurpleP> ill just play iy in the browser^^
#2435 [16:46] <xales> It could be because its an Atheros card, those tend to be shit with Windows
#2436 [16:46] <lysandergray> SkiingPenguins: The server sees you trying to connect.
#2437 [16:46] <xales> lysandergray: Is the server vanilla or any mods?
#2438 [16:46] <lysandergray> xales: I've read a bunch of thread around the subject, that's why I mentioned Atheros...
#2439 [16:46] <lysandergray> xales: vanilla, freshly downlaoded
#2440 [16:47] <xales> If it works locally, I'd suggest its a problem with the NIC =\
#2441 [16:48] <lysandergray> xales: To be truthful, I was hoping someone would suggest some sort of virtual NIC clone or somesuch... I can succesfuly host it through VirtualBox's virtual adapter, but that brings up a whole bunch of other issues.
#2442 [16:49] <lysandergray> Seems to me this whole Atheros problem is a black hole bug.
#2443 [16:49] <xales> lysandergray: I can't think of any real way to get it to work, other than replacing the NIC or using Linux
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#2447 [16:51] <lysandergray> Do NICs have some sort of generic, 3rd party driver I could use?
#2448 [16:51] <xales> Unfortunately, not really
#2449 [16:52] <xales> The best solution other than replacing the NIC is to try running Linux on it
#2450 [16:52] <lysandergray> xales: I've been considering that for the past couple of hours, but that would mean moving over my whole development environment over to Linux, and giving up on all my usual WIndows apps
#2451 [16:53] <lysandergray> Total Commander, Komodo Edit, Adobe CS
#2452 [16:53] <xales> Developing on Linux tends to be easier, and is usually a lot more intuitive than Windows
#2453 [16:53] <xales> vim (or some GUI editor) and the GIMP are all you need
#2454 [16:54] <lysandergray> Yeah, but you know how it gets.. You have your tools and you're lightning fast with them.. You have your technique and your routine..
#2455 [16:54] <lysandergray> Once you switch, you're taking performance hits.
#2456 [16:54] <xales> Do you use the server as a workstation?
#2457 [16:55] <lysandergray> Don't know what you mean. I use it as everything. Modest dual-core, 4GB, got an Ubuntu vbox running all my web daemons, and I also do a lot of gaming on the same machine.
#2458 [16:56] <SkiingPenguins> workstation = your everyday machine
#2459 [16:56] <lysandergray> Oh.. yeah.. that. Sure :)
#2460 [16:57] <xales> Ah, thats probably the issue
#2461 [16:57] <xales> Or well...
#2462 [16:57] <xales> Ideally you would want a separate computer for server stuff
#2463 [16:57] <lysandergray> If there were performance issues, indeed...
#2464 [16:58] <lysandergray> But my qualms right now are with Atheros and having to switch over to Linux. :p
#2465 [16:58] <xales> You could consider getting a router and a cheap desktop and putting Linux on the cheap computer and running server-related stuff on there
#2466 [16:59] <fork> craigslist $50
#2467 [16:59] <lysandergray> I did that for a while but couldn't sleep over the sound of the PSU
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#2469 [17:00] <sammricharon> i would like to make a server
#2470 [17:00] <xales> ok...?
#2471 [17:02] <lysandergray> A minecraft server?
#2472 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> lysandergray - What problem(s) do you have in trying to make one?
#2473 [17:04] <xales> Wrong ping, Grey
#2474 [17:04] <SkiingPenguins> >:)
#2475 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#2476 [17:04] <lysandergray> A virtual NIC? :D
#2477 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> sammricharon - What problem(s) do you have in trying to make one?
#2478 [17:06] <Lorax> GreyVulpine: I found myself playing on your server... is it one you plan to keep up?
#2479 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> It's actually just a personal server, set up to test connections
#2480 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> And for me to just screw around in
#2481 [17:06] <dopeghoti> off topic, but yay, a free extra GB of DropBox space :D
#2482 [17:07] <lysandergray> grats!
#2483 [17:07] <sammricharon> my problems are im not running any mods i port forwarded and no one not even i can join
#2484 [17:07] <SkiingPenguins> sammricharon what is your external ip address?
#2485 [17:07] <xales> sammricharon: Is there an error when they try to join?
#2486 [17:08] <Lorax> GreyVulpine: ok I'll not spend another hour there. ;)
#2487 [17:10] * lysandergray writes a death-threat letter to Atheros.
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#2492 [17:17] <livi> Does nether work yet in multiplayer servers?
#2493 [17:17] <lysandergray> Only if you generate the map with hell-world=true afaik.
#2494 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes and no
#2495 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2496 [17:19] <livi> crap :)
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#2498 [17:19] <andResin> Hey
#2499 [17:19] <andResin> I got a problem -_-
#2500 [17:19] <xales> what is it?
#2501 [17:20] <andResin> when I wanna play MC on the browser
#2502 [17:20] <andResin> it loads
#2503 [17:20] <andResin> but then nothing happen
#2504 [17:20] <SkiingPenguins> try clearing your cache
#2505 [17:20] <andResin> how?
#2506 [17:20] <SkiingPenguins> what browser are you using?
#2507 [17:21] <andResin> Google Chrome
#2508 [17:21] <xales> andResin: How has it managed to stop working AGAIN between now and 3 hours ago
#2509 [17:21] <SkiingPenguins> click the wrench, then options, then go to under-the-hood, then clear browsing data
#2510 [17:22] <andResin> Xales, I always play whith the shortcut
#2511 [17:22] <andResin> but I want to play in the browser and thats the problem
#2512 [17:23] <andResin> I cant play in browser
#2513 [17:23] <xales> Why do you want to play in the browser?
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#2515 [17:24] <andResin> I never played on it
#2516 [17:24] <andResin> lol
#2517 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> because being able to make games fullscreen is overrated?
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#2519 [17:24] <xales> andResin: It is exactly the same as not playing in the browser
#2520 [17:25] <andResin> :/
#2521 [17:25] <andResin> I just wanna play in the browser
#2522 [17:25] <xales> There is no reason to.
#2523 [17:26] <andResin> So, Im forced to play with the shortcut? :(
#2524 [17:27] <xales> Why would you want to play in the browser? It works worse
#2525 [17:27] <andResin> nvm :/
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#2529 [17:39] <Kaito> Okay, my minecraft client has slowed down to the point of unuseability
#2530 [17:39] <Kaito> has anyone else experienced super lag since beta 1.2?
#2531 [17:39] <xmasta> did you try turning it off and on again
#2532 [17:39] <Lorax> and he's not kidding, check the memory footprint
#2533 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> Kaito: Network lag, or local rendering lag?
#2534 [17:40] <Kaito> local rendering
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#2536 [17:40] <Kaito> one second
#2537 [17:41] <Kaito> i tried restarting my client, and it was good for a while, then got super laggy
#2538 [17:41] <Kaito> im playing on a server i bought
#2539 [17:41] <xales> Kaito: Try playing singleplayer and see if it still lags
#2540 [17:41] <Kaito> trying now
#2541 [17:42] <Kaito> it's not as bad as it was on the server, but it's still more noticeable than it was before the update
#2542 [17:43] <Kaito> wait
#2543 [17:43] <SkiingPenguins> i am using intel mobile graphics and i normally have low fps on games but this is just dumb.
#2544 [17:43] <Kaito> it's bad now
#2545 [17:43] <Kaito> still single player
#2546 [17:44] <SkiingPenguins> i have to stop walking and wait for the fps to go back up, somehow they start going up again
#2547 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Kaito - Even with fog turned up?
#2548 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> quality on fast, not fancy?
#2549 [17:45] <Kaito> fog turned /up/?
#2550 [17:45] <Kaito> i have fog at a minimum, and graphics on fast
#2551 [17:45] <BarryCarlyon> !check barrycarlyon.servegame.org
#2552 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> Kaito: fog turned up, as in, more fog.
#2553 [17:46] <Kaito> when i minimize minecraft, then try to maximize it again, thats when it logs
#2554 [17:46] <BarryCarlyon> OK if I can get on, and aubot can get on, why does my friend fail and gets timeouts but can connect to a different server we tried? Thoughts?
#2555 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> Kaito: how much RAM has your computer got?
#2556 [17:46] <xales> brand0ng: Have him do a trace to your IP
#2557 [17:47] <xales> err
#2558 [17:47] <xales> BarryCarlyon:
#2559 [17:47] <Kaito> 3GB
#2560 [17:47] <Kaito> minecraft should be fine
#2561 [17:47] <Kaito> it ran fine since before this update
#2562 [17:47] <fogwraith> Peculiar, seems that for some, being op isn't a requirement.. shitty hacking players
#2563 [17:47] <Lorax> requirement for what?
#2564 [17:47] * lysandergray kicks Atheros in the face!
#2564 [17:47] <fogwraith> !paid Johndo77
#2565 [17:47] <Kaito> fog turned all the way up helps a little
#2566 [17:48] <fogwraith> Destroying and doing crap within the spawn area, gaining items out of the blue... things like that, Lorax
#2567 [17:49] <Kaito> now it takes forever to log into my server...
#2568 [17:49] <Kaito> and minecraft isn't responding >_>
#2569 [17:50] <BarryCarlyon> xales: I think hes too stupid to do that..... I've not checked my dyndns is behavin.
#2570 [17:50] <xales> Kaito: It's a problem with your computer, make sure ABSOLUTELY nothing else is running, including 'security' software (firewall, antivirus)
#2571 [17:51] <BarryCarlyon> xales: also there is a webpage at my server address and it the webpage works fine :-P
#2572 [17:51] <Kaito> it was running absolutely fine
#2573 [17:52] <BarryCarlyon> mc.net returned a 504.....
#2574 [17:52] <xales> BarryCarlyon: He gets timeouts when he connects to your server?
#2575 [17:52] <BarryCarlyon> and hes on now....
#2576 [17:52] <BarryCarlyon> Yah
#2577 [17:52] <xales> BarryCarlyon: It says "Connection timed out"?
#2578 [17:52] <BarryCarlyon> java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 504 for URL: http://www.minecraft.net/game/checkserver.jsp?user=
#2579 [17:52] <BarryCarlyon> yi[
#2580 [17:52] <BarryCarlyon> yip*
#2581 [17:52] <BarryCarlyon> hes on now mind
#2582 [17:53] * BarryCarlyon throws hands in air
#2582 [17:53] <akiwiguy> I might set up an smp server
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#2585 [17:55] <lysandergray> !check karmic.ro:25566
#2586 [17:55] <lysandergray> lies....
#2587 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> I'd try to connect to it myself, but with all the SSH attacks on my server from Romania, I'm disinclined.
#2588 [17:58] <ziggo0> I get that error BarryCarlyon has a lot as of the past 2 days
#2589 [17:58] <ziggo0> If i set online to false it goes away
#2590 [17:58] <ziggo0> but thats not a good fix
#2591 [17:58] <BarryCarlyon> Indeed I think its linked to the fact mc.net gets overloaded as every login to a server (with online=true) means a ping to mc.net
#2592 [17:59] <ziggo0> That's pretty much what it is, can't do much about it. Since I run a private server and have few players I don't really care if it's set to false, but if you run a bigger server...i'd be hesitant
#2593 [17:59] <BarryCarlyon> +1
#2594 [18:00] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: And here I thought my fellow countrymen couldn't disappoint and shame me further. It's mostly because Romania is a big steaming pile of viruses and trojans.
#2595 [18:00] <Lorax> s/romania/interwebs/
#2596 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> lysandergray: that's nothing to compare to the amount of cruft I block from .cn and .ru
#2597 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> but it's enough to be a concern.
#2598 [18:01] <lysandergray> DopeGhoti: I suppose that's where most of the botnets spread to us here in .ro.
#2599 [18:01] <lysandergray> err * from where
#2600 [18:02] <Kealper> .set motd [disable]
#2601 [18:03] <xales> DopeGhoti: I have every IP assigned to most of those countries set to DROP in iptables
#2602 [18:03] <xales> Kealper: ?
#2603 [18:03] <Kealper> working with the main bot module now....the one that would not work with this network
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#2606 [18:05] <Kealper> aubot you fucking suck!
#2607 [18:05] <Kealper> i remember that thing now :O
#2608 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#2609 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> !slap AuBot
#2610 [18:06] * crickets slaps AuBot with a bag of doggie chow.
#2610 [18:06] <Kealper> lol
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#2612 [18:06] <mib_r137vb> hey
#2613 [18:06] <mib_r137vb> i have a question
#2614 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Shoot.
#2615 [18:06] <mib_t1wtqs> so i made my own server but when i try to connect it doesnt work, can anyone help me?
#2616 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> How are you connecting?
#2617 [18:06] <xales> What happens when you try to connect?
#2618 [18:07] <mib_t1wtqs> it says refusial to connect
#2619 [18:07] <xales> What address are you trying to connect to?
#2620 [18:07] <mib_r137vb> when i try to connect to someone elses server i get some error about a byte 0
#2621 [18:07] <mib_t1wtqs> wait 1 sec
#2622 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> They haven't updated their server yet
#2623 [18:07] <KizuOrama> Yeah I get the same when my friend does on the same network, she's on a laptop, it lag's then kick's her but she play's maybe 2 seconds before kicking her, last one she complained about was end of stream.
#2624 [18:07] <mib_r137vb> ahhh
#2625 [18:08] <mib_r137vb> anyone got a updated server on here?
#2626 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> You can test with greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#2627 [18:08] <mib_t1wtqs> my ip is 67.161.59.136
#2628 [18:08] <KizuOrama> I have the updated server, and everyone here also has the updated minecraft
#2629 [18:08] <SkiingPenguins> um, does "preparing spawn area" mean it is overwriting my map? :(
#2630 [18:08] <mib_r137vb> can i play on the servr you have?
#2631 [18:08] <Kealper> no SkiingPenguins
#2632 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Play? No. Test, yes.
#2633 [18:09] <mib_r137vb> um?
#2634 [18:09] <mib_r137vb> huh?
#2635 [18:09] <xales> KizuOrama: Can her laptop play on single player?
#2636 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> You can try using my server to test your connection.
#2637 [18:09] <Kealper> mib_r137vb: his server is for testing to see if people can connect, no one actually plays on it
#2638 [18:09] <KizuOrama> xales: Yes
#2639 [18:09] <mib_r137vb> why does nobody play?
#2640 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> It isn't up for that purpose
#2641 [18:10] <mib_r137vb> oh
#2642 [18:10] <xales> KizuOrama: Can she play on any other server?
#2643 [18:10] <mib_r137vb> i want one thats up for that one
#2644 [18:10] <mib_r137vb> lok?
#2645 [18:10] <mib_r137vb> anyone got one"
#2646 [18:10] <mib_r137vb> ?
#2647 [18:11] <KizuOrama> xales: her own yeah, but lags alot when she connects to any other server, even the main server
#2648 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> mib_r137vb - Nope.
#2649 [18:11] <mib_r137vb> ok...
#2650 [18:11] <lysandergray> Would an Ubuntu Live CD be a good test environment for a minecraft server? Or do I need the whole thing?
#2651 [18:11] <xales> lysandergray: Probably not
#2652 [18:13] <ziggo0> you could stick ubuntu in a vm if your on windows and dont have a box to dedicated to ubuntu
#2653 [18:13] <lysandergray> ziggo0: already am doing just that, and it's choking.
#2654 [18:13] <KizuOrama> xales: then again mine is the only one that usually host's besides her, she only host's because she wants to make a castle to show off.
#2655 [18:14] <xales> KizuOrama: Is she trying to connet to a server, or host one?
#2656 [18:15] <KizuOrama> xales: when she can't connect to the server I have running she host's one herself and connects to it just fine.
#2657 [18:15] <xales> KizuOrama: Of course, because if you can't connect to a server on your own computer, something is seriously wrong
#2658 [18:16] <KizuOrama> xales: we had a problem where no one else could join her server but we got that fixed, before then she still had the lag of where she could move and it wouldn't move the map real well till about a minute or 2 later, most of it happened after the update.
#2659 [18:17] <lysandergray> Now I'm wondering, what would cause my perfect minecraft server running fine inside a virtualbox for 6 weeks to suddenly start throwing way too many "Can't keep up"s.. Should I be blaming Notch?
#2660 [18:17] <KizuOrama> [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? (That one lys?)
#2661 [18:17] <lysandergray> KizuOrama: That very one :)
#2662 [18:17] <SkiingPenguins> lysandergray: i just started using a minecraft server today with 1.2_2 or whatever it is, and everytime a client disconnects it says that
#2663 [18:18] <xales> KizuOrama: Thats probably because its a laptop, and most laptops can't properly run a server
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#2665 [18:18] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: that's normal on a connect/disconnect
#2666 [18:18] <SkiingPenguins> oh okay :D
#2667 [18:18] <SkiingPenguins> what about during forest fires?
#2668 [18:18] <lysandergray> Yep, totally normal. I on the other hand get it every other minute now.
#2669 [18:18] <KizuOrama> Yeah her laptop, mine's a desktop.
#2670 [18:18] <Uni544> hey so im trying to make a bit of a water/cacti trap to collect mob items
#2671 [18:18] <Uni544> but ... i cant ever get em to go down there
#2672 [18:18] <Uni544> lol
#2673 [18:18] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: mostly, fires tend to use a bit of resources
#2674 [18:19] <Uni544> i mean theres this spider just lurking above me
#2675 [18:19] <lysandergray> Oh.. btw.. found a great in-game lag meter. Pulser with note blocks XD
#2676 [18:20] <Kealper> lol
#2677 [18:20] <Uni544> or do i just need a view hole to make em follow me into it
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#2679 [18:20] <KizuOrama> xales: by the looks of it cause I'm looking at her laptop even her own server is lagging on her's, not as bad when she joins my server hosted on my computer.
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#2681 [18:22] <Uni544> is there anything that specificly atracts them
#2682 [18:22] <Uni544> like fire?
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#2684 [18:23] <ziggo0> xales: I know you disapprove of servers being ran on Windows, would I see any benifit to running linux inside a VM on my wife's windows box? The server is currently hosted as a second login via rdp.
#2685 [18:23] <xales> ziggo0: Extremely unlikely, as it is still being virtualized by windows
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#2687 [18:23] <Kealper> ziggo0: it would still be running through windows' horrible tcp stack, with the added lag of being in a VM :/
#2688 [18:24] <Kealper> that being said....
#2689 [18:24] <KizuOrama> Kealper what do you mean tcp stack?
#2690 [18:24] * Kealper rolls with windows
#2690 [18:24] <akiwiguy> !check 118.90.140.191
#2691 [18:24] <akiwiguy> Good.
#2692 [18:24] <Kealper> KizuOrama: advanced things that most users should not have to know about
#2693 [18:24] <Kealper> basically the way windows handles networking stuff
#2694 [18:25] <ziggo0> ahh...thats what I figured
#2695 [18:25] * xales is in Kealper's TCP/IP stack, ACKing his packets :P
#2695 [18:25] <Kealper> unix-based oses handle networking better, which is why they are typically used for major servers that will see many connections and loads of traffic
#2696 [18:25] <Kealper> xales: how dare you ACK my packets! that's MY job!!
#2697 [18:25] <Kealper> lol
#2698 [18:25] <xales> Kealper: better = extremely much better. And handle just about everything else better too
#2699 [18:26] <KizuOrama> so four window comps networked together your saying is kind of bad Kealper?
#2700 [18:26] <ziggo0> The wife could never get used to linux
#2701 [18:26] <Kealper> want my honest, unbiased opinion on that matter?
#2702 [18:26] <KizuOrama> Yes
#2703 [18:26] <thereddeh> i dont!
#2704 [18:27] <Kealper> if you don't plan on running a huge public server, don't bother with jumping through hoops
#2705 [18:27] <Kealper> so if it's just for you and a few friends, windows is fine
#2706 [18:27] <ziggo0> Yep, my case.
#2707 [18:27] <KizuOrama> Yeah, just me, and three other people
#2708 [18:28] <KizuOrama> but one seems to have extreme lag when joining.
#2709 [18:28] <Kealper> if it's just one person, then they probably just have really crappy DSL
#2710 [18:29] <Kealper> or a slow computer that takes ages to render the chunks
#2711 [18:29] <ziggo0> The people across country who join on my server complain about lag, but they are 100+ms
#2712 [18:29] <ziggo0> most people a few states away have zero complaint
#2713 [18:29] <KizuOrama> the laptop is not even a year old yet, and we are all connected on a network hub.
#2714 [18:29] <ziggo0> oh
#2715 [18:29] <ziggo0> what gpu
#2716 [18:29] <KizuOrama> all in the same room
#2717 [18:30] <KizuOrama> gpu?
#2718 [18:30] <ziggo0> video card, in the laptop
#2719 [18:30] <Kealper> oh.....bad graphics chip then?
#2720 [18:30] <ziggo0> if its an intel integrated...that's your issue, or his/her issue
#2721 [18:30] <ziggo0> the game is simply unpayable on my higher end laptop, ,but has intel x4500mhd
#2722 [18:30] <Kealper> heck, how much ram does that laptop have? if it's only got a gig of ram with windows vista/7 on it, there is your probem too
#2723 [18:31] <xales> whats your server again Grey?
#2724 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#2725 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Sorta torrenting at the moment
#2726 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Might not be able to tget in
#2727 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Bastard
#2728 [18:32] <xales> lol
#2729 [18:32] <lysandergray> Oh god.. I attached note blocks to a pulser like I said and the rubberbanding is just insane. I tried to fraps it and it got worse. Disk access is serious bottle neck.
#2730 [18:32] <xales> did he connect?
#2731 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> No, not yet
#2732 [18:32] <KizuOrama> Intel Graphic's Media Accel HD what it came with.
#2733 [18:33] <xales> Yeah, those things are garbage Kealper
#2734 [18:33] <ziggo0> There is one of the problems.
#2735 [18:33] <xales> err, KizuOrama
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#2737 [18:33] <ziggo0> With mine, resized window, fog a closest, staring at the ground is like...3 ~ 5fps
#2738 [18:33] <ziggo0> chunks take forever to load etc
#2739 [18:33] <fridgeways> howdy all
#2740 [18:34] <KizuOrama> Its an Acer A505 Laptop if I'm right
#2741 [18:35] <KizuOrama> Toshiba Satalite my bad
#2742 [18:35] <KizuOrama> but its all just what it came with
#2743 [18:35] * SkiingPenguins has mobile intel graphics.. he has to wait for minecraft to finish loading every few seconds
#2743 [18:36] <ziggo0> Not much you can do then :(
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#2745 [18:36] <lysandergray> Ah fuck this shit. I'm switching over to Linux. See ya guys.
#2746 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Laters
#2747 [18:36] <Zmod> hi , levers i flick dont show they have been flicked but they actually have
#2748 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Zmod - Known bug
#2749 [18:36] <Zmod> does anyone know how to fix?
#2750 [18:36] <Zmod> damnit
#2751 [18:37] <KizuOrama> lol probably just like torch's I place seem to hop to the middle of the block sometimes
#2752 [18:37] <SkiingPenguins> how about this: when i right click to empty a bucket of water, it empties and then goes back into the bucket -_-
#2753 [18:37] <Zmod> :o
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#2755 [18:38] <violetblood> xales is a cunt
#2756 [18:38] <violetblood> dude
#2757 [18:38] <SkiingPenguins> o_o
#2758 [18:38] * GreyVulpine kicked violetblood from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: 4*BAM*)()
#2759 [18:38] <SkiingPenguins> :O the *bam* is red!
#2760 [18:38] <KizuOrama> knew that was coming
#2761 [18:38] <Kealper> ninja'd :/
#2762 [18:38] <Kealper> fucking phonecall -.-
#2763 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Now he's PMing me, calling me a fag
#2764 [18:39] <xales> Aww grey, you beat me to it :'(
#2765 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#2766 [18:39] <xales> GreyVulpine: He did that to me too
#2767 [18:39] * GreyVulpine yawns
#2767 [18:39] <xales> he said something like "You don't talk nice to a customer"
#2768 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. customer?
#2769 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#2770 [18:39] <OODavo> Pirates count as customers, y'know.
#2771 [18:40] <Uni544> anyone know cacti mob traps/item collectors?
#2772 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> What about them?
#2773 [18:40] <Uni544> see my problem is they wont go in it they are just standing above me
#2774 [18:40] <Uni544> they never go in the hole
#2775 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> You sorta have to rethink it then
#2776 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Have yourself as the bait
#2777 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Be in the middle, surrounded by cacti
#2778 [18:41] <KizuOrama> Yourself or other's for instance
#2779 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> water current will bring look to you, underneath..
#2780 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> look = loot
#2781 [18:41] <Zmod> so switches dont work in smp right?
#2782 [18:41] <Zmod> err levers
#2783 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> They work
#2784 [18:42] <Zmod> i mean the graphic bit
#2785 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Just, sometimes, they're bugged, and you don't see them flip
#2786 [18:42] <OODavo> They just don't display correctly.
#2787 [18:42] <Zmod> so is there any way to fix it
#2788 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Wait for Notch to fix it, basically.
#2789 [18:42] <Zmod> :/
#2790 [18:43] <SkiingPenguins> my game lags so much the sounds repeat themselves
#2791 [18:44] <Zmod> i need like.. a redstone indicator
#2792 [18:44] <Zmod> instead of a lever
#2793 [18:44] <i81u812> lava ceilings in a tree farm= fires
#2794 [18:45] <SkiingPenguins> o.o
#2795 [18:45] <i81u812> I thought the glass would stop it....
#2796 [18:45] <OODavo> i81u812: It should have done.
#2797 [18:45] <OODavo> The lava must have gotten through somehow.
#2798 [18:45] <i81u812> you tell that to all the burning trees....
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#2800 [18:45] <i81u812> nope everything is sealed
#2801 [18:46] <OODavo> Weird.
#2802 [18:46] <i81u812> maybe its pissed because its above ground
#2803 [18:46] <i81u812> ....
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#2805 [18:46] <OODavo> Perhaps something else caused the fires?
#2806 [18:47] <i81u812> all torches are ground level
#2807 [18:47] <Lorax> I once thought I was being clever, setting a tree on fire that was two blocks away from the next.
#2808 [18:47] <Tyren> Ugh.. I hate to be a pest, but since early today people are having tons of problems connecting to my server.
#2809 [18:47] <Tyren> Been working fine for over a month (and even last night)
#2810 [18:47] <Lorax> the resulting forest fire took a few day/night cycles just to spread
#2811 [18:48] <OODavo> Torches don't start fires anyway, I think.
#2812 [18:48] <OODavo> Tyren: Did anything change?
#2813 [18:48] <i81u812> idk I moved them just in case
#2814 [18:48] <Tyren> Well, yes and no. :P I'll be honest. It was REALLY laggy this morning.
#2815 [18:48] <Tyren> So much that my wife kept getting lagged and then disconnected.
#2816 [18:49] <Tyren> So I tried wiring directly to the router (to take the wi-fi out of the picture)
#2817 [18:49] <Tyren> I can connect if I connect using localhost, but if I try to go through the "net" (using my external IP) it fails.
#2818 [18:49] <OODavo> Did you update your port forwarding?
#2819 [18:49] <Tyren> Gets to the "logging in..." screen.
#2820 [18:49] <Tyren> Yeah, my port is open.
#2821 [18:49] <OODavo> Your local IP probably changed.
#2822 [18:50] <OODavo> Hmm.
#2823 [18:50] <OODavo> Could also be a firewall issue.
#2824 [18:50] <Tyren> I have a non-standard port (for security reasons).
#2825 [18:50] <OODavo> Since you switched networks it may have changed to another firewall profile.
#2826 [18:50] <Tyren> I disabled my firewall.
#2827 [18:50] <OODavo> Oh.
#2828 [18:50] <Tyren> Port XXXXXX is open on 71.227.X.Y.
#2829 [18:51] <Tyren> as per an external port test.
#2830 [18:51] <OODavo> Why all the Xs and Ys? :/
#2831 [18:51] <Tyren> After some time of trying to connect it says, "Timed Out"
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#2833 [18:51] <Tyren> I don't want anyone connecting to me
#2834 [18:51] <OODavo> Oh, fair enough.
#2835 [18:51] <OODavo> Can you ping the same IP?
#2836 [18:52] <xales> Tyren: Does it just hang on the "Logging In..." screen?
#2837 [18:53] <Tyren> Yah.. mostly.
#2838 [18:53] <Tyren> Then times out.
#2839 [18:53] <Tyren> And sometimes says it took too long to login.
#2840 [18:54] <xales> Tyren: What is the username your trying to log in with?
#2841 [18:54] <Kane_Hart> How much performance would 4x 300gb 15k sas raid 10 be vs 4x 1tb raid 10? Over double less then double? half?
#2842 [18:54] <Tyren> Well I've used mine and my wifes.
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#2844 [18:55] <Kaito> hello
#2845 [18:55] <xales> hello
#2846 [18:55] <xales> Tyren: which are?
#2847 [18:55] <Kaito> turns out, exiting out of EVERY program solved my minecraft lag problem
#2848 [18:55] <xales> of course it did
#2849 [18:55] <Kaito> thank you'
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#2851 [18:56] <Lagi> Hello
#2852 [18:56] <xales> hello
#2853 [18:57] <Lagi> How's it going?
#2854 [18:57] <Solvius> I have a question about the map in MP. Is there an end at that map, or is it growing when ya walk aroun, and keeps it bigger and bigger with no end?
#2855 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> The latter
#2856 [18:57] <OODavo> Solvius: There IS an end, but you won't reach it befoe you run out of hard drive space.
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#2858 [18:57] <OODavo> s/oe/ore/
#2859 [18:57] <Lagi> Is there anyone here who has any experience with running a private minecraft server?
#2860 [18:58] <xales> Indeed, what do you need help with?
#2861 [18:58] <Solvius> ok thnx, but how can ya make a mp map in an editor then ?
#2862 [18:58] <Lagi> Well
#2863 [18:58] <Lagi> I just recently tried Minecraft
#2864 [18:58] <Lagi> I'm definitely buying it, but...
#2865 [18:58] <Lagi> ...this computer of mine isn't going to cut it
#2866 [18:58] <Lagi> so
#2867 [18:58] <OODavo> Solvius: The editors that can generate maps make Classic maps. Those are limited in size.
#2868 [18:58] <Lagi> I designed one that would be able to do so
#2869 [18:59] <Lagi> however, from what I've seen, I don't know if it'll be able to handle both a server AND gameplay
#2870 [18:59] <xales> Lagi: Do you plan on running Windows 7 on it?
#2871 [18:59] <Lagi> yep
#2872 [18:59] <Solvius> 00Davo Iwant to build a map for a survival mp
#2873 [18:59] <Lagi> Lemme get the specs
#2874 [18:59] <OODavo> Solvius: MCEdit works on Beta maps. It also lets you import Classic maps into sections of the Beta map.
#2875 [19:00] <xales> Lagi: Ideally, you want at least 4GB of DDR2 or better RAM, and a CPU thats at least 2.5GHz
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#2879 [19:01] <Lagi> @xales: Gotcha, but will that 4GB cover JUST the server, or is the game included in that equation?
#2880 [19:01] <Solvius> yeah, I was looking at mcedit, watching some movies on youtube about it, and looking it up in forums, but I was wondering about how large an mp could get.... Now I know I stumble into other probs :) well i take a look into it, many thnx
#2881 [19:02] <Lagi> and I got the specs....hold on....
#2882 [19:02] <OODavo> You won't really be limited at all by the size limit in Beta maps.
#2883 [19:02] <xales> Lorax: 4GB should handle both, it depends on how many people you want on the server
#2884 [19:02] <Lagi> ok
#2885 [19:02] <SkiingPenguins> Lagi i am running a client and server on windows 7 ultimate 32bit and i'm using 1.8GB of my 4GB
#2886 [19:02] <Salvatore> Hello, newbie here, got a stupid question: How do you install skins?
#2887 [19:02] <Lagi> whoa
#2888 [19:02] <Lagi> nice
#2889 [19:02] <xales> Solvius: One block is one meter. The possible map size is at least 1.5 times the size of the Earth
#2890 [19:02] <xales> Salvatore: Did you buy the game?
#2891 [19:03] <Lagi> Salvatore: Find a site that gives skins, or download a template and make your own
#2892 [19:03] <OODavo> xales: Wasn't it eight times?
#2893 [19:03] <xales> OODavo: No, that was wrong. Notch clarified it on his blog.
#2894 [19:03] <OODavo> Salvatore: You mean player skins? minecraft.net/skin
#2895 [19:03] <Salvatore> Well, I got it on the free weekend so I can play offline.
#2896 [19:03] <OODavo> xales: Fair enough. Still bigger than one could ever need.
#2897 [19:03] <Salvatore> And I know where to get skins. I don't know how to install them, thank you.
#2898 [19:04] <OODavo> Um, is it possible to install skins without buying MC? I'm not sure.
#2899 [19:04] <Lagi> Not sure...I'm making my own for when I do get the game soon
#2900 [19:04] <Valium> OODavo: Salvatore Nope, not gonna happen
#2901 [19:04] <SkiingPenguins> http://www.minecraft.net/img/char.png <-- Default skin
#2902 [19:04] <xales> Salvatore: Free weekend?
#2903 [19:04] <xales> There was no free weekend
#2904 [19:04] <Salvatore> One time the server was down.
#2905 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, there was xales
#2906 [19:05] <Valium> xales: hes referring to when the auth srver was down
#2907 [19:05] <Solvius> so that means ehmmm 40.000.000 blocks to get around a earth :) and thats all directions. pffff :D in fact its 60.000.000 because of the 1.5 :)... thats a lot...
#2908 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> A few months ago xales
#2909 [19:05] <Lagi> xales and skiingPenguins: Got the Specs: Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
#2910 [19:05] <Lagi> Processor Intel® Core™ i5-460M (2.53GHz, 4 threads, turbo boost up to 2.8GHz, 3M cache)
#2911 [19:05] <Lagi> Memory 6GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 Memory
#2912 [19:05] <Lagi> Video Card NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 420M 1GB graphics with Optimus
#2913 [19:05] <OODavo> xales: The time the MC server lost all the CSS and everyone got free downloads of MC.
#2914 [19:05] <xales> GreyVulpine: What? >.>
#2915 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> There was
#2916 [19:05] <xales> GreyVulpine: Was it intentional?
#2917 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2918 [19:05] <SkiingPenguins> Lagi that sounds good, i wish i had that :P
#2919 [19:05] <Salvatore> Well, thanks for the anwser. Time to make an automatic mob killing machine .
#2920 [19:05] <xales> Lagi: That should be fine
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#2922 [19:07] <Lagi> Xales and Skiing Penguins: Thanks, guys. I was worried, as it's a laptop. Unfortunately, in my household, 1. I don't Have Room for a desktop, and 2. Laptops are just more convenient for me
#2923 [19:07] <Lagi> Its a Dell XPS 15
#2924 [19:07] <Lagi> bt
#2925 [19:07] <Lagi> w
#2926 [19:09] <Lorax> help, I'm playing minecraft. http://yfrog.com/f/2p20110115190518p/
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#2928 [19:11] <bpf> Oh hello, how does one put a multiplayer server into survival mode?
#2929 [19:11] <OODavo> bpf: It is automatically.
#2930 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> bpf, what server did you download?
#2931 [19:11] <OODavo> The server can only be in Survival mode.
#2932 [19:12] <OODavo> !server
#2933 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Did you start the server with start server.bat?
#2934 [19:12] <OODavo> Was it this one?
#2935 [19:12] <bpf> It ... seems to be in creative mode
#2936 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Wrong server
#2937 [19:12] <bpf> D'oh.
#2938 [19:12] <SkiingPenguins> GreyVulpine :( i dont have a start server.bat
#2939 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> SkiingPenguins - start server.bat is for starting the classic server
#2940 [19:12] <SkiingPenguins> oh.
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#2943 [19:14] <bpf> Do I still start it with "java -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer" ?
#2944 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> No
#2945 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> bpf - Look at the page where you got the beta client
#2946 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> the beta server file is at the bottom of the page
#2947 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> and the example line to execute it
#2948 [19:15] <bpf> I just got it from the AuBot link :|
#2949 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> go to minecraft.net
#2950 [19:15] <bpf> I'm guessing what I had before was the classic server
#2951 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> then click on the 'download' link
#2952 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes bpf
#2953 [19:17] <bpf> Woohoo. Thanks, GrayVulpine.
#2954 [19:17] * GreyVulpine nods
#2954 [19:20] <Fluuux> hey guys
#2955 [19:20] <Fluuux> :P
#2956 [19:20] <SkiingPenguins> oh wow. putting wood into a lake and having all but the surface of it surrounded by water makes it burn forever
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#2958 [19:21] <OODavo> SkiingPenguins: Works with stuff other than water, too.
#2959 [19:22] <SwampWolf> Hello, is Him real or fake? :D
#2960 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Him?
#2961 [19:22] <SwampWolf> "the gost of minecraft"
#2962 [19:22] <SwampWolf> ghost*
#2963 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> No.
#2964 [19:23] <thereddeh> BOO!
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#2966 [19:23] <SwampWolf> no isent really a correct awnser :p
#2967 [19:23] <thereddeh> nightnight
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#2969 [19:23] <thereddeh> hi eath
#2970 [19:23] <thereddeh> bye eath
#2971 [19:23] <SwampWolf> Grey?
#2972 [19:23] <pinksteady> anyone fancy a game with a noob!?
#2973 [19:24] <aetherian> bye thecommeh
#2974 [19:24] <ziggo0> why is running cat5 entertaining
#2975 [19:24] <Lagi> anyways, thanks, all
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#2978 [19:26] <Fluuux> chmod +x
#2979 [19:26] <Fluuux> i need help
#2980 [19:26] <Fluuux> i made a start.command file
#2981 [19:26] <Fluuux> so i cna double click it and start the server
#2982 [19:26] <Fluuux> on a mac
#2983 [19:26] <Fluuux> and it says refused connection
#2984 [19:27] <Fluuux> my port is good
#2985 [19:27] <Fluuux> but idk?
#2986 [19:27] <Fluuux> help D:
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#2988 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> Bwah?
#2989 [19:30] <SkiingPenguins> there are half-way detonated TNT blocks in the air o_o
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#2992 [19:32] <Lorax> ask here, there's a much higher clue:person ratio
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#2994 [19:32] * GreyVulpine snerks
#2994 [19:33] <iownall555> minecart track problems
#2995 [19:33] <iownall555> they keep changing direction
#2996 [19:35] <Valium> iownall555: update your server to the absolute lateset
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#2998 [19:35] <iownall555> it is the latest
#2999 [19:35] <jennitals> ok srsly
#3000 [19:36] <jennitals> something is up with minecart tracks
#3001 [19:36] <jennitals> they wont make corners
#3002 [19:36] <iownall555> also it lags when you place it
#3003 [19:36] <jennitals> doesnt lag for me
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#3005 [19:36] <iownall555> eg if i placed 1, it only corrects when i place another
#3006 [19:36] <jennitals> it just wont form corners
#3007 [19:36] <jennitals> yeah
#3008 [19:36] <iownall555> or uhh
#3009 [19:37] <iownall555> if you are going up
#3010 [19:37] <jennitals> but the one u place is screwed
#3011 [19:37] <iownall555> you place one, then place another on a step it stays flat
#3012 [19:37] <jennitals> its never-ending
#3013 [19:37] <iownall555> then when you place another it fixes itself
#3014 [19:37] <jennitals> someone should come check it out on the server
#3015 [19:38] <iownall555> hostname: games.game-proz.com:25565
#3016 [19:39] <iownall555> not advertising btw
#3017 [19:39] <iownall555> just need help
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#3019 [19:41] <ziggo0> That is quite weird
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#3021 [19:41] <ziggo0> The tracks arent connecting in some spots, and not turning to connect O_o
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#3023 [19:42] <BarryCarlyon> We have heard of several bugs involved tracks of late.....
#3024 [19:43] <BarryCarlyon> I've not checked getstatisfaction for similar tickets tho
#3025 [19:43] <BarryCarlyon> But I imagine its been reported.
#3026 [19:43] <jennitals> im looking now
#3027 [19:43] <jennitals> dont see anything
#3028 [19:43] <SkiingPenguins> how can i make half-way exploded tnt go away?
#3029 [19:43] <jennitals> relog
#3030 [19:44] <SkiingPenguins> yay! thanks
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#3032 [19:45] <Fluuux> is grey here?
#3033 [19:45] <ziggo0> Yea that track issue is probably a bug
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#3035 [19:46] <BarryCarlyon> SkiingPenguins: you client forgot to remove... happens to me all the time when I wander off and come back its gone :-D
#3036 [19:47] <SkiingPenguins> its quite annoying to have tnt blocks spazzing in your back yard
#3037 [19:49] <BarryCarlyon> On a multiplayer server I imagine only you will see it (another user would see a different set on semi exploded stuff)
#3038 [19:49] <BarryCarlyon> fun......
#3039 [19:49] <BarryCarlyon> lol
#3040 [19:50] <SkiingPenguins> why do i find a giant hole in my map? it's as if someone deleted a giant square all the way down to the bottom of the map
#3041 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Chunk error/corrupt
#3042 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> relog
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#3044 [19:51] <iownall555> we get that aswell
#3045 [19:51] <SkiingPenguins> i was like :O OMG!!!
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#3048 [19:56] <Valium> SkiingPenguins: you cant walk over it, but minecarts can go right over those and you can ride thenm that way, it's weird
#3049 [19:57] <Solvius> I have water in my cave, when i remove a stone block, then the water starts to flow into that removed piece, when i put a cobblestone at that place, the water gets removed for the cobblestone, but I get an coblestone what I can pick up
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#3054 [20:07] <Fluuux> grey
#3055 [20:07] <Fluuux> are you here
#3056 [20:07] <SkiingPenguins> isnt there a list of servers ?
#3057 [20:08] <Fluuux> servers.mineraft.net
#3058 [20:08] <Fluuux> minecraft...
#3059 [20:08] <Fluuux> lol
#3060 [20:08] <Fluuux> anyways can someone help me with a file?
#3061 [20:08] <Kaito> what kind of file?
#3062 [20:08] <Fluuux> start.command
#3063 [20:08] <Fluuux> :P
#3064 [20:08] <Kaito> oh
#3065 [20:08] <Kaito> not me, sorry
#3066 [20:08] <Kaito> :P
#3067 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Fluuux - We don't really support mods here
#3068 [20:08] <Fluuux> no...
#3069 [20:08] <Fluuux> :P
#3070 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> especially not bukkit
#3071 [20:08] <Fluuux> no mod
#3072 [20:09] <Fluuux> just file
#3073 [20:09] <Kaito> why not bukkit?
#3074 [20:09] <Fluuux> i tyed they don't know about files
#3075 [20:09] <Fluuux> but its not a mod related file
#3076 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit's still in development
#3077 [20:09] <Fluuux> i know
#3078 [20:09] <Kaito> oh, thats why
#3079 [20:09] <Kaito> ok
#3080 [20:09] <SkiingPenguins> you're just trying to start the server on mac right?
#3081 [20:09] <Fluuux> yes.
#3082 [20:09] <Fluuux> but everytime i do it
#3083 [20:09] <Fluuux> and type the dman thing in
#3084 [20:10] <Fluuux> when i try to connect to my server is says connection refused
#3085 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> How are you connecting?
#3086 [20:10] <Fluuux> i go into terminal
#3087 [20:10] <Fluuux> type java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar craftbukkit.jar nogui
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#3089 [20:10] <Fluuux> then drag and drop the bukkit .jar fule
#3090 [20:10] <Fluuux> file*
#3091 [20:10] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3091 [20:10] <Fluuux> thats the long way to connect....
#3092 [20:11] <Fluuux> but if you do the short way which is making a start.command file
#3093 [20:11] <Fluuux> is the short way...
#3094 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> I don't get what dragging and dropping the .jar file does in terminal
#3095 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> I'm not a mac guy
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#3097 [20:12] <Kealper> afaik it puts the full path of that file in
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#3099 [20:12] <Fluuux> ok look....
#3100 [20:12] <spined> yo
#3101 [20:12] <Fluuux> #!/bin/bash
#3102 [20:12] <Fluuux> cd "`dirname "$0"`"
#3103 [20:12] <Fluuux> java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar craftbukkit.jar nogui
#3104 [20:13] <Fluuux> thats whats inside the start.command file
#3105 [20:13] <Fluuux> to start it
#3106 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I have no clue what craftbukkit is
#3107 [20:13] <spined> yo guys im haveing some bs problems with minecraft
#3108 [20:13] <spined> it's giving me this error
#3109 [20:13] <Fluuux> thats like the minecraft_server.jar
#3110 [20:13] <xales> spined: What is the problem?
#3111 [20:13] <Kealper> spined: what sorts of problems?
#3112 [20:13] <Fluuux> but bukkits
#3113 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> It's like minecraft_server, but modded
#3114 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> We actually don't support mods here.
#3115 [20:13] <spined> java.io.UTFDataFormatException
#3116 [20:13] <Fluuux> right.
#3117 [20:13] <spined> thats my problem
#3118 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> I have ZERO experience with bukkit
#3119 [20:13] <spined> keeps giving me thats
#3120 [20:13] <Fluuux> that doesnt change the file ime trying to make though
#3121 [20:13] <xales> spined: Is the server you are trying to connect to updated?
#3122 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> and since it's not even finished
#3123 [20:13] <Fluuux> :/
#3124 [20:13] <Kealper> spined: try connecting to mc.kealper.com
#3125 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> I don't know what it does
#3126 [20:14] <spined> no idea
#3127 [20:14] <Fluuux> its not dealing with bukkit
#3128 [20:14] <xales> GreyVulpine: Bukkit its like hmod
#3129 [20:14] <Fluuux> its just making a file to start it up
#3130 [20:14] <xales> is*
#3131 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> If you're launching with craftbukkit, it's not launching the vanilla server now, is it?
#3132 [20:14] <Fluuux> instead of going into terminal
#3133 [20:14] <Fluuux> ?
#3134 [20:14] <Fluuux> vanilla
#3135 [20:14] <Fluuux> thats a seperate mod
#3136 [20:14] <Fluuux> :/
#3137 [20:14] <spined> hmm that web does not help at all...
#3138 [20:14] <xales> spined: No, try connecting to it in minecraft
#3139 [20:14] <Kealper> not in a browser
#3140 [20:14] <Kealper> lol
#3141 [20:15] <Kealper> that reminds me..i should finish that page
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#3143 [20:15] <Fluuux> after i try to open the start.command it won't let me so i type chmod +x then drag and drop the start.command from the folder
#3144 [20:15] <xales> spined: What is your Minecraft username?
#3145 [20:15] <spined> spined lol
#3146 [20:15] <xales> spined: Try connecting to mc.kealper.com in Minecraft
#3147 [20:15] <Kealper> he's in
#3148 [20:16] <xales> Ok
#3149 [20:17] <jennitals> wewt
#3150 [20:17] <Fluuux> nvm figuered it out by my self
#3151 [20:17] <Fluuux> :P
#3152 [20:17] <Fluuux> wOOT WOOT
#3153 [20:17] <Fluuux> lol
#3154 [20:18] <Kealper> so i made a cake earlier...and it's cooled now...
#3155 [20:18] <Fluuux> lol
#3156 [20:18] <Kealper> i'd just like to say that this thing tastes pretty friggin awesome for my first attempt lol
#3157 [20:26] <xales> !uptime
#3158 [20:27] <Kealper> !uptime
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#3164 [20:36] <Uni544> hey can u fish and still pick up an inky ? (i know the real name is squid or somethin but i like calling them inkys)
#3165 [20:37] <Uni544> or do i have to go in the water
#3166 [20:37] <xales> you can't fish for them, you have to go in the water
#3167 [20:38] <Uni544> ah ok
#3168 [20:40] <Uni544> now here comes the most important part of starting my new map
#3169 [20:40] <Uni544> making a cake
#3170 [20:40] * Uni544 gets the ingrediants
#3170 [20:41] <Uni544> heh makes me feel like im 12 when im really 24
#3171 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Heh, youngin's
#3172 [20:43] <Uni544> yeah on a multi server im one of the oldest
#3173 [20:46] <feenyx> I'm a hair under 28, but I suppose whether you feel old or young largely depends on your current station in life, aswell as the maturity of your friend (regardless of their actual age)
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#3176 [20:50] <mib_vb281j> black screen help me?
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#3178 [20:58] <aetherian> thank god utorrent finished
#3179 [20:58] <aetherian> =\
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#3181 [20:59] <aetherian> hello vial
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#3184 [21:07] <aetherian> g2g
#3185 [21:08] <Napoleon98> 2 questions.. 1st is there a reason why minecraft says its updating but never does so i cant actually connect?
#3186 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific?
#3187 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Is it stuck at a Done loading screen?
#3188 [21:09] <Napoleon98> yes to both
#3189 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried deleting /.minecraft?
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#3191 [21:09] <Napoleon98> yea, should i try again?
#3192 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3193 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> save your /saves/ if you have any
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#3196 [21:12] <vcordie> Hi.
#3197 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3198 [21:14] <vcordie> I'm trying to figure out how to construct a circut, that when a switch is flipped, it turns on a 5 clock permamently(turning off the switch wont shut off the clock). I've searched around and I can't find any way of doing it.
#3199 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> How about a 5-clock plus an AND switch?
#3200 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> 5-clock will only go through if it's switched on
#3201 [21:15] <vcordie> But if its connected to an AND gate, you can shut off the gate by shutting off the switch, could you not?
#3202 [21:16] <vcordie> I need to learn these things so I can construct my traps on smp =P
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#3204 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Um, I'm a little foggy on that question, could you clarify?
#3205 [21:16] <mib_ap6o4n> can someone help me? I can't buy the game
#3206 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_ap6o4n - Why not?
#3207 [21:16] <mib_ap6o4n> i keep getting error pages
#3208 [21:16] <vcordie> If you turn off the switch, the And gate would turn the clock off, would it not?
#3209 [21:17] <mib_ap6o4n> "VerifyEasy error Expected parameters missing: data currency"
#3210 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - No
#3211 [21:17] <mib_ap6o4n> and another one
#3212 [21:17] <vcordie> Alright. I should probally learn how to use the redstone simulator, but its so confusing. I can't make heads or tails of it.
#3213 [21:18] <vcordie> so the entire massive wiki page is pretty much worthless for me :/
#3214 [21:18] <mib_ap6o4n> also it sometimes gives me a "too many connections" error
#3215 [21:18] <mib_ap6o4n> this is when im trying to submit the payment
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#3218 [21:19] <mib_ap6o4n> ok no help lol?
#3219 [21:20] <xales> mib_ap6o4n: contact your bank
#3220 [21:20] <Zuty> Hi, I have a question about running a server. Are there any system requirements? I have an offer on the table of getting my server hosted on a UNIX based server computer, can a MC server run on that?
#3221 [21:20] <xales> its an issue verifying the card
#3222 [21:20] <xales> Zuty: It can, the requirements are actually quite steep
#3223 [21:20] <mib_ap6o4n> wait i can use NA credit card right?
#3224 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3225 [21:21] <mib_ap6o4n> k.....
#3226 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the credit app on the minecraft website, or through paypal?
#3227 [21:21] <Zuty> Okay, TY Xales.
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#3229 [21:21] <xales> Ideally you want 1GB minimum for just Minecraft, as well as good connection speed. You also need a decent HDD. (root access is needed as well)
#3230 [21:21] <mib_ap6o4n> credit app
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#3233 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Try paypal
#3234 [21:21] <claude> hey can some1 help me?
#3235 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps
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#3237 [21:22] <claude> im trying too start a server and server.properties dont exist
#3238 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Need to run it once
#3239 [21:22] <mib_wn7k69> can ne1 help me run the offical minecraft classic server software on ubuntu under wine??
#3240 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> It'll generate
#3241 [21:22] <claude> i did
#3242 [21:23] <xales> mib_wn7k69: Why would you want to run it under WINE?
#3243 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Then it should've generated
#3244 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> In the same folder
#3245 [21:23] <claude> it dind
#3246 [21:23] <mib_wn7k69> coz ubuntu sux with java >.>
#3247 [21:23] <mbentley> huh?
#3248 [21:23] <Lorax> um, no
#3249 [21:23] <xales> mib_wn7k69: Um, wrong.
#3250 [21:23] <mib_wn7k69> somone gives me tut then, please?
#3251 [21:24] <xales> mib_wn7k69: What is the problem getting it to run?
#3252 [21:24] <claude> no server properties!
#3253 [21:24] <mib_wn7k69> i cant get it to run under a terminal or otherwise.
#3254 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> claude - .
#3255 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> bah
#3256 [21:24] <Lorax> mib_wn7k69: do you get an error?
#3257 [21:24] <mib_wn7k69> mhmm
#3258 [21:24] <mib_wn7k69> kinda
#3259 [21:25] <xales> ...What is the error?
#3260 [21:25] <mib_wn7k69> 1 sec
#3261 [21:26] <mib_wn7k69> i run: java -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.minecraftserver
#3262 [21:26] <mib_wn7k69> could not find main class :L
#3263 [21:27] <vcordie> Why is the redstone simulator so hard to understand :/
#3264 [21:27] <Zuty> So Xales, I am going to be running this on a server computer that used to be for a WoW server that held 500 players with no lag. Do you think that is enough for a Minecraft server?
#3265 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - It really isn't, once you know what the symbols are
#3266 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Yellow blocks are on top
#3267 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> grey is below
#3268 [21:28] <mbentley> mib_wn7k69: sounds like you aren't running it from the directory where the .jar is
#3269 [21:28] <vcordie> Alright.
#3270 [21:29] <mib_wn7k69> root desktop :\
#3271 [21:29] <mbentley> can you verify that 'minecraft-server.jar' is in the pwd?
#3272 [21:29] <xales> Zuty: I'd imagine so
#3273 [21:29] <xales> mbentley: Java class names are case sensitive too ;)
#3274 [21:29] <mib_wn7k69> i copy/pasted from the readme >.>
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#3276 [21:30] <vcordie> I'll see if I can use that to create a compact 5 clock connected to a 4x4 wall of dispensers. No idea how to connect the and gate between the switch to make sure that once you turn the switch on you can't turn it off.
#3277 [21:30] <vcordie> Or maybe I wouldnt need to make sure it shuts off if I make the pulse fast enough.
#3278 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Oh, you didn't mention that
#3279 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> okay then
#3280 [21:31] <xales> mib_wn7k69: Are you in the right folder?
#3281 [21:31] <vcordie> But how would I simulate the walls :/ Its 2d
#3282 [21:31] <mib_wn7k69> btw does anyone know some mods i can hex-edit into the minecraft classic server software?
#3283 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - there should be z-levels on that
#3284 [21:32] <xales> mib_wn7k69: We don't support modding, and you would'nt use a hex editor anyway
#3285 [21:32] <xales> wouldn't*
#3286 [21:32] <mib_wn7k69> i see.
#3287 [21:32] <mib_wn7k69> and yes i'm in right folder. its desktop >.>
#3288 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> And you can't speed up any faster, else you'll burn out the redstone torches
#3289 [21:33] <vcordie> You can a tiny bit.
#3290 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - Can I ask how you want to trigger this?
#3291 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes, with a 4-clock, but it's not very stable
#3292 [21:33] <xales> mib_wn7k69: the .jar file is on the desktop?
#3293 [21:33] <vcordie> grey you dont need a 4 clock
#3294 [21:33] <vcordie> http://www.youtube.com/user/kiershar#p/u/0/lNwZhw7evyM
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#3296 [21:34] <mib_wn7k69> yep.
#3297 [21:34] <mib_wyh2hb> lol ok i got my payment thru
#3298 [21:34] <vcordie> speedy 5 clock.
#3299 [21:34] <Uni544> soo many mobs of various kinds outside
#3300 [21:34] <vcordie> in that vid, 3 of the clocks torchs are connected to the dispenser
#3301 [21:34] <xales> mib_wn7k69: run the command 'pwd' and see what it says
#3302 [21:34] <Uni544> and in nearby caves the constant sounds
#3303 [21:34] <Uni544> yipes
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#3305 [21:35] <vcordie> Anyways: There are two switchs in the room. turns the clock on and by extension, the two 4x4 walls of dispensers, the other one opens hte iron door(not important)
#3306 [21:35] <vcordie> Im trying to make it as compact as possible
#3307 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Nice
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#3309 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> How do you want to trigger the dispensers?
#3310 [21:35] <mib_wn7k69> waits
#3311 [21:35] <mib_wn7k69> i got it
#3312 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> via a switch, or a pressure plate?
#3313 [21:35] <vcordie> You pull the switch.
#3314 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Is it constant on, or momentary
#3315 [21:35] <mib_wyh2hb> i cant get the game to run
#3316 [21:35] <mib_wyh2hb> on mac
#3317 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Then, really easy.
#3318 [21:36] <Uni544> makes no sense that creepers and spiders dont die when the sun is out
#3319 [21:36] <Uni544> heh
#3320 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - Got a server?
#3321 [21:36] <Uni544> didnt they used to
#3322 [21:36] <Uni544> ?
#3323 [21:36] <vcordie> idealily its constantly on, but a quick thief would turn the switch off, so I want to make sure that the dispenser will stay on for a few seconds after the switch is turned off.
#3324 [21:36] <xales> mib_wyh2hb: why not?
#3325 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Oh, okay then
#3326 [21:36] <mib_wyh2hb> i dunno man i run it and nothing happens
#3327 [21:37] <mib_wn7k69> i believe it was broken on macs?
#3328 [21:37] <xales> mib_wyh2hb: it works fine on macs
#3329 [21:37] <vcordie> Grey: Unfortunetly no. If you have fraps a quick video tut would be helpful if were going to show how I would do it in front of me. (Tbh, im just researching. I don't even have the game yet, waiting until after finals)
#3330 [21:37] <mib_wyh2hb> anny idea why it wouldnt run?
#3331 [21:37] <mib_wyh2hb> pretty sure my java's up to date
#3332 [21:37] <xales> mib_wyh2hb: what does the icon of what you are running look like?
#3333 [21:37] <mib_wyh2hb> dirt block with grass
#3334 [21:38] <xales> mib_wyh2hb: what model of mac do you have?
#3335 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - Hmm, are you familiar with RS NOR latch gates?
#3336 [21:38] <Uni544> well other than those i tbh dont really need a mob collector the sun seems to do it just fine
#3337 [21:38] <mib_wyh2hb> MBP 4,2
#3338 [21:38] <SkiingPenguins> vcordie: i was going to do that, but then my finals got snowed out and thus i had a 10 day break :P
#3339 [21:38] <Uni544> just going outside when its day
#3340 [21:38] <Uni544> lol
#3341 [21:38] <xales> mib_wyh2hb: which version of OSX?
#3342 [21:38] <mib_wyh2hb> latest
#3343 [21:38] <xales> 10.6?
#3344 [21:38] <mib_wyh2hb> yea
#3345 [21:38] <vcordie> Grey: Im not familar with any kind of gates. Logic gates and complicated redstone circuts is hard to wrap your head around. I get NOT gates though.
#3346 [21:38] <vcordie> Most gates stem from them.
#3347 [21:39] <xales> mib_wyh2hb: are you able to play in the browser?
#3348 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Oof, well, latch gates only trigger states when they receive the right signal.
#3349 [21:39] <mib_wyh2hb> hold on ill try
#3350 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> You can wire up a latch gate to turn on, and not off when a signal passes through it
#3351 [21:40] <mib_wyh2hb> it like works and starts loading
#3352 [21:40] <mib_wyh2hb> then asks me if i wanna trust the certificate right
#3353 [21:40] <vcordie> Awesome. In hindsight, having it constantly on after one trigger would absoultely waste my arrows.
#3354 [21:40] <mib_wyh2hb> i say yes it asks again i say yes then the screen is just white
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#3356 [21:40] <xales> mib_wyh2hb: refresh the page, if it asks again check the "always trust" thing
#3357 [21:40] <vcordie> This circet gets more and more complicated >.<
#3358 [21:40] <vcordie> circut*
#3359 [21:41] <mib_wyh2hb> um lol
#3360 [21:41] <mib_wyh2hb> when i click always trust
#3361 [21:41] <mib_wyh2hb> it keeps popping up
#3362 [21:41] <mib_wyh2hb> it only goes away if i dont click it and hit run ..
#3363 [21:41] <xales> what browser are you using?
#3364 [21:41] <mib_wyh2hb> chrome
#3365 [21:41] <mib_wyh2hb> is there no website support for this kind of thing?
#3366 [21:42] <xales> there is not
#3367 [21:42] <mib_wyh2hb> forum?
#3368 [21:42] <xales> there is a forum, but there is a much higher clue:person ratio here
#3369 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - Do you have minecraft installed?
#3370 [21:42] <xales> when you run the downloaded client
#3371 [21:42] <xales> how long does it stay in your dock for?
#3372 [21:43] <vcordie> I mentioned before that I don't have it yet :(, but im being prepared.
#3373 [21:43] <mib_wyh2hb> it doesn't even show up
#3374 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Ah, sorry
#3375 [21:43] <vcordie> I probablly should hold off until after finals and actually get it before I learn about logic gates and all that.
#3376 [21:43] <xales> mib_wyh2hb: are you using any kind of 'antivirus' or 'security' programs?
#3377 [21:43] <vcordie> But its such an amazing game =P. I should probablly be studying right now instead of hitting the random button on the wiki.
#3378 [21:43] <mib_wyh2hb> ahaha, no
#3379 [21:43] <mib_wyh2hb> im on mac :0
#3380 [21:44] <xales> mib_wyh2hb: you are sure you are actually running it, right?
#3381 [21:44] <vcordie> Thats...bold and rather ignorant. There are virusus for the mac.
#3382 [21:44] <mib_wyh2hb> lol pretty sure
#3383 [21:44] <xales> vcordie: There are, but unlike Windows, you gotta be an idiot to get em
#3384 [21:44] <vcordie> Perhaps, I don't own a mac
#3385 [21:45] <vcordie> But you will eventually be stupid at one point and accidentally download something you shouldnt have =P
#3386 [21:45] <xales> vcordie: In 10 years, I never have
#3387 [21:45] <vcordie> Get out more =P
#3388 [21:45] <xales> and I'm not even on a Mac
#3389 [21:45] <xales> :)
#3390 [21:46] <xales> mib_wyh2hb: you are double clicking the dirt block icon, right..?
#3391 [21:46] <mib_wyh2hb> yes
#3392 [21:46] <mib_wyh2hb> i get the icon flyin at me and everythin
#3393 [21:46] <mib_wyh2hb> but it dosens't seem to actually run
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#3395 [21:47] <xales> mib_wyh2hb: go to this website - www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
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#3397 [21:48] <DopeGhoti> Woohoo, successful arrivals station built!
#3398 [21:48] <SkiingPenguins> umm, when i run the server i get random icon "updates" on my desktop. the little shortcut arrow in the bottom right, turns into another icon. it once turned into the icon for one of my games
#3399 [21:49] <mib_wyh2hb> :( my java is working
#3400 [21:49] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: sounds like Windows updating its icon cache
#3401 [21:49] <SkiingPenguins> if i refresh, it goes back to the normal arrow thingy
#3402 [21:49] <mib_wyh2hb> can u tell me where the root files are on my hdd so i can delete/restart?
#3403 [21:49] <mib_wyh2hb> is it all in app support
#3404 [21:49] <mib_wyh2hb> ?
#3405 [21:50] <xales> mib_wyh2hb: yes, app support/.minecraft
#3406 [21:50] <mib_wyh2hb> k
#3407 [21:50] <mib_wyh2hb> gonna restart
#3408 [21:50] <vcordie> Vulpine, I wouldnt suppose you know anything about minecart boosters?
#3409 [21:50] <vcordie> Mib: I havent actually played minecraft beta yet but it sounds like an issue with your available memory.
#3410 [21:51] <DopeGhoti> vcordie: I can't answer for Vulpine, but I just finished building a working network of boosters on my server.
#3411 [21:51] <xales> vcordie: http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecart_Booster
#3412 [21:51] <vcordie> Xales: I've been there. Its a suspefic question.
#3413 [21:51] <xales> Ask then
#3414 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - What about them?
#3415 [21:52] <xales> GreyVulpine isn't the only one who knows how to answer questions >.>
#3416 [21:52] <SkiingPenguins> :D
#3417 [21:53] <vcordie> Alright Dope. Heres the deal: Im creating a 1/1(slope) staircase down to the bedrock(for strip mining) On the right side of the staircase, there will be 2 minecarts in front of each other(a storage and a regular minecart, for riding down), on the left side, im trying to set up a booster system that boosts me back up. I'm thinking this extended all the way to the top: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecart_booster#Uphill_auto-re
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#3419 [21:53] <macguy> shit still dont work
#3420 [21:53] <xales> macguy: What other programs do you have open?
#3421 [21:54] <macguy> just chrome
#3422 [21:54] <macguy> and smc fan control
#3423 [21:54] <xales> try using safari to play it in browser
#3424 [21:55] <DopeGhoti> vcordie: you probably want rather than to have one huge booster, set up a series of smaller ones
#3425 [21:55] <macguy> k
#3426 [21:56] <macguy> i think safari just crashed
#3427 [21:56] <vcordie> Dope, that would need me to flatten out my staircase at some points for the sole purpose of setting up boosters. I only ask here to find out if there would be a better way to do this rather then flatting it out.
#3428 [21:57] <DopeGhoti> vcordie: the main rail itself can be a straight shot all the way up. You can 'pick up' the boosters on the way, I believe.
#3429 [21:57] <vcordie> What do you mean?
#3430 [21:57] <macguy> this is pissing me off
#3431 [21:57] <macguy> im stuck on "mojang specifications" screen
#3432 [21:58] <DopeGhoti> macguy: I'll try to make you a screenshot, hold a few.
#3433 [21:58] <xales> macguy: Open device manager, and look for what graphics card you have
#3434 [21:58] <xales> vcordie: Didn't you say you don't actually have Minecraft yet? >.>
#3435 [21:58] <vcordie> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Water_Elavator Omg. The misspelling is driving me crazy
#3436 [21:58] <vcordie> Yes Xales =P
#3437 [21:58] <macguy> 8600m
#3438 [21:58] <vcordie> I'm planning my bases in advance
#3439 [21:58] <macguy> im pretty sure i can run the game
#3440 [21:59] <DopeGhoti> vcordie: so fix it; it's a wiki
#3441 [21:59] <xales> vcordie: ._.
#3442 [21:59] <xales> macguy: How much RAM?
#3443 [21:59] <macguy> enough
#3444 [21:59] <xales> which is...?
#3445 [21:59] <macguy> 4g
#3446 [22:00] <xales> when you run the client, what happens?
#3447 [22:00] <macguy> minecraft classic works
#3448 [22:00] <macguy> nothing happens
#3449 [22:01] <xales> and it doesn't appear in the dock, even for a split second?
#3450 [22:01] <macguy> nope
#3451 [22:01] <vcordie> macguy, check your processes to see if "insert minecraft process name here, im going to assume minecraft.exe" is running.
#3452 [22:02] <macguy> k
#3453 [22:02] <macguy> no its not running at all
#3454 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> javaw.exe
#3455 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> not minecraft.exe
#3456 [22:02] <DopeGhoti> vcordie: once it's daytime, I'll get your screenshot :p
#3457 [22:02] <vcordie> Kk dope.
#3458 [22:03] <macguy> no javaw
#3459 [22:03] <vcordie> Isnt the minecraft clock connected to your computer clock
#3460 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> No?
#3461 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> It's 10 minute days, 7 minute nights
#3462 [22:03] <vcordie> Hmm, I thought I read somewhere it was
#3463 [22:03] <vcordie> I know that grey
#3464 [22:03] <xales> macguy: That actually sounds unrelated to Minecraft...if you live near an Apple store, and you take your computer there, they can help you figure out why the application isn't running
#3465 [22:03] <vcordie> But it draws its time from your computer clock
#3466 [22:03] <macguy> can u explain that to me?
#3467 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#3468 [22:03] <macguy> i can run other java applications
#3469 [22:03] <vcordie> meaning if you forward it, the time of day will jump around
#3470 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> I don't think it works like that
#3471 [22:04] <vcordie> Say its high noon, I forward the clock 9 minutes and its the middle of the night.
#3472 [22:04] <vcordie> Try it =P
#3473 [22:04] * GreyVulpine tests.
#3473 [22:05] <xales> macguy: If it doesn't appear in the Dock, and it doesn't do anything, then it is failing before it even gets to the point of running Minecraft related code
#3474 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Nope, doesn't work like that
#3475 [22:05] <vcordie> Interesting, I read the wrong information.
#3476 [22:05] <DopeGhoti> vcordie: http://ubuntuone.com/p/YTS/
#3477 [22:05] <vcordie> I saw it somewhere around the modding section of the wiki
#3478 [22:06] <DopeGhoti> Booster on the left, main trach on the right.
#3479 [22:06] <macguy> k i think it randomly just started working
#3480 [22:06] <macguy> thx? i guess?
#3481 [22:06] <vcordie> Doh. Why didnt I think of that, dope.
#3482 [22:06] <DopeGhoti> I don't know.
#3483 [22:07] <SkiingPenguins> o.o
#3484 [22:07] <DopeGhoti> that'll be €8.
#3485 [22:07] <xales> DopeGhoti: eew, ubuntu one? :P
#3486 [22:07] <SkiingPenguins> i uninstall ubuntuone >.>
#3487 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - To manually set the time in minecraft, you can use a mod called Celestial Sundial, by seronis
#3488 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> fork off of "Scroll the sky"
#3489 [22:07] <DopeGhoti> xales: It's another free DropBox. And is also free.
#3490 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> You can use your mousewheel to "scroll" the sun, as it were
#3491 [22:07] <xales> DopeGhoti: Why would you need more than just DropBox? =/
#3492 [22:08] <DopeGhoti> xales: despite my extra free GB today, you mean?
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#3494 [22:08] * DopeGhoti shrugs. I use them interchangably because they both do the same thing.
#3494 [22:08] <vcordie> I hope I spawn near a huge deposit of coal and small caves like all the lucky bastards that have done let's play have =P
#3495 [22:08] <DopeGhoti> xales: you do know about the free GB they're giving away, right?
#3496 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - Don't need to be near coal anymore
#3497 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> can put wood in furnaces to make charcoal
#3498 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> works the same way
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#3500 [22:09] <xales> DopeGhoti: The dropquest?
#3501 [22:09] <vcordie> Charcoal? and I can use that to make torches?
#3502 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#3503 [22:09] <xales> I did that. I was 8000-something
#3504 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Check out http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Coal_%28Item%29
#3505 [22:10] <vcordie> Woot.
#3506 [22:10] <Uni544> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/d/dd/Redpoptarts_dye_guide_v12_full.png
#3507 [22:10] <Uni544> lol starbucks coffee
#3508 [22:10] <DopeGhoti> xales: yes.
#3509 [22:10] <mib_tbyjsz> how can I resolve the minecraft failed to launch system cannot find path error?
#3510 [22:10] <vcordie> I hope I spawn near an area with lots of trees.
#3511 [22:10] * DopeGhoti was 2055
#3511 [22:10] <DopeGhoti> :)
#3512 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_tbyjsz - With what OS?
#3513 [22:10] <mib_tbyjsz> Win 7
#3514 [22:10] <vcordie> does charcoal have 8 uses in a furnace as well?
#3515 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Can you paste the error at www.pastebin.com?
#3516 [22:11] <mib_tbyjsz> sure
#3517 [22:11] <DopeGhoti> vcordie: "eight uses"? Wha?
#3518 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - It's the same duration in a furnace as coal
#3519 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Furnace
#3520 [22:11] <vcordie> Awesome.
#3521 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Under fuel efficiency
#3522 [22:12] <vcordie> Woah! I did not know you could use buckets of lava as a fuel source!
#3523 [22:12] <mib_tbyjsz> "Fatal error occurred (4) C:\users\ my name\appdata\roaming\.minecraft\bin\wjgl.jar (The system cannot find the path specified"
#3524 [22:12] <DopeGhoti> yes, but you lost the bucket, so it's not nearly as swanky
#3525 [22:12] <xales> mib_tbyjsz: What is your username for Minecraft?
#3526 [22:13] <mib_tbyjsz> That's not contributing to the error.
#3527 [22:13] <DopeGhoti> says they guy who's asking for help.
#3528 [22:13] <xales> mib_tbyjsz: I need to know to be able to help =/
#3529 [22:14] <xales> If you don't want help, don't tell me
#3530 [22:14] <mib_tbyjsz> Okay.... ZackKreggs
#3531 [22:14] <xales> Ok, thanks
#3532 [22:14] <xales> Do this...
#3533 [22:14] <xales> !reinstall
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#3535 [22:17] <mib_tbyjsz> God... I'm honestly not that much of an idiot. Would that have been because of server traffic?
#3536 [22:17] <mib_aulzrt> every time i try to play the beta in-browser, it freezes. i tried 3 different browsers (internet explorer, firefox, and safari). any suggestions?
#3537 [22:17] <xales> No idea, possibly a bad download, but who knows
#3538 [22:18] <Kealper> mib_aulzrt: has it worked before?
#3539 [22:18] <mib_aulzrt> yeah
#3540 [22:18] <xales> try downloading it?
#3541 [22:18] <Kealper> mib_aulzrt: have you restarted your computer?
#3542 [22:18] <mib_tbyjsz> Well. Thank you. I really like this real-time help. Hopefully I won't be back again. haha
#3543 [22:18] <xales> mib_tbyjsz: No problem. Have fun with Minecraft
#3544 [22:19] <mib_aulzrt> ill try to download it. thanks.
#3545 [22:19] <SkiingPenguins> so many people come in here with issues o.o is it because so many people play? im used to a community of about 200 people and there arent this many questions
#3546 [22:21] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: So far 3,278,222 people have registered and 1,028,972 people bought the game.
#3547 [22:22] <SkiingPenguins> cube 2 is free and has no where near that many players
#3548 [22:22] <DopeGhoti> combine that with the fact that most people don't know Java from spit in the eye makes for lots of tech support opportunities.
#3549 [22:23] <xales> DopeGhoti: Not to mention the 200,000 pirates not included in that count
#3550 [22:23] <DopeGhoti> Games startd in the last day: Minecraft Beta: 1,590,984
#3551 [22:24] <SkiingPenguins> "[INFO] /68.200.92.232:49771 lost connection" <-- does that mean someone tried to connect but decided not to? nobody ever came into the server
#3552 [22:24] <vcordie> Cows are so freaking annoying.
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#3554 [22:25] <vcordie> They ruin perfectly good commentary.
#3555 [22:25] <DopeGhoti> MooOOOOOOOoooooooooo
#3556 [22:25] <Lorax> I'd like to see more stats in the client.
#3557 [22:25] <SkiingPenguins> id like to have the fps/ram toggle-able
#3558 [22:26] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: I thought there was some odd chicanery you could do with the alter keys to make F3 permemantly on
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#3560 [22:27] <SkiingPenguins> yes but there is also that random dark red block on my screen that i see no use for when i have F3 open
#3561 [22:27] <xales> DopeGhoti: Its probably like flash, where if you hold it down and lose focus, then remove it, the event won't go to Java
#3562 [22:28] <SkiingPenguins> uh i tried that and it opened a bunch of "Search" windows
#3563 [22:28] <SkiingPenguins> oh well
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#3566 [22:39] <jdodson99> Is anyon here experienced with redstone wire?
#3567 [22:40] <jdodson99> I'm trying to make a mechanism that opens iron doubledoors when a single button is pushed, but I can't figure it out. *n00batthisstuff*
#3568 [22:40] <xales> Whats the problem?
#3569 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Oh, that
#3570 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> 's easy
#3571 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Just invert one of the signals
#3572 [22:42] <jdodson99> ...? Invert one of the... Huh??? I've never used redstone wire before so I don't know the terms xD
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#3574 [22:42] <xales> Is the issue that it only opens one door at a time, and both don't open?
#3575 [22:43] <jdodson99> Yeah. I can get one door to open if the button is right beside it, but I can't get it to open both at the same time and then close after a second.
#3576 [22:44] <xales> jdodson99: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvFauzzA9pY
#3577 [22:45] <jdodson99> *is watching*
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#3579 [22:55] <jdodson99> Alright that's what I want, but is there any way to hide the wire so it's just a bit harder to destroy?
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#3581 [22:56] <jdodson99> Actually nevermind, I found something that'll work perfectly
#3582 [22:57] <xales> jdodson99: The second part of that video talks about hiding it
#3583 [23:00] <jdodson99> Note to self: Watch all the parts before talking.
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#3586 [23:14] <jdodson99> WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN, it doesnt work anymore?!
#3587 [23:15] <CruelNoise> huh?
#3588 [23:15] <jdodson99> Good crap, I need someone to build this for me xD Any takers? :p
#3589 [23:15] <CruelNoise> You're going to have to explain this.
#3590 [23:15] <jdodson99> I need a double door system with the redstone wire hidden underground.
#3591 [23:15] <jdodson99> Mibbit kinda lags when I type fast -.-
#3592 [23:16] <CruelNoise> I'm not the man for the job...
#3593 [23:16] <jdodson99> Not experienced with redstone?
#3594 [23:16] <CruelNoise> I haven't played minecraft in a while.
#3595 [23:17] <jdodson99> ...then why are you on this chatroom?
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#3598 [23:18] <Miniviper> Hai guises
#3599 [23:18] <jdodson99> Hai!
#3600 [23:18] <jdodson99> Are you experienced with redstone wire? :3
#3601 [23:18] <Miniviper> lol I died and I was like FFFFFF
#3602 [23:18] <Miniviper> nope
#3603 [23:18] <Miniviper> lol
#3604 [23:18] <Miniviper> I just got minecraft
#3605 [23:19] <jdodson99> Aww...
#3606 [23:19] <Miniviper> sorry
#3607 [23:19] <Miniviper> I was digging in my cave XD
#3608 [23:20] <Miniviper> I found a cave leading to about 500 other caves hahaha
#3609 [23:20] <jdodson99> Wanna see a cool (not handbuilt of course...) villagecitytownthingy? xD
#3610 [23:20] <Miniviper> sure
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#3612 [23:21] <jdodson99> Ohai, are you any good with redstone wire?
#3613 [23:21] <KillSpammer> I am :)
#3614 [23:22] <jdodson99> KEWLS. Do you know how to make a double door system with the redstone hidden underground or whatever you'd call it?
#3615 [23:23] <KillSpammer> Proberly.
#3616 [23:23] <GuybrushThreepwood> Am I at least allowed to ask where to get started on doing server mods? like tradecraft for example or custom commands
#3617 [23:23] <KillSpammer> Redstone is hard to explain in chat
#3618 [23:23] <KillSpammer> GuybrushThreepwood, we don't directly support mods but i can help you :)
#3619 [23:23] <GuybrushThreepwood> I have experience with computer programming but don't know how it's done in minecraft.
#3620 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> GuybrushThreepwood - Try #bukkit
#3621 [23:23] <jdodson99> If it's not too much trouble, could you make it for me? :p
#3622 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> It's still in development
#3623 [23:23] <KillSpammer> Or that...
#3624 [23:23] <KillSpammer> jdodson99 on your server?
#3625 [23:24] <jdodson99> KillSpammer Yeah, if it's not too much to ask.
#3626 [23:24] <KillSpammer> Ip?
#3627 [23:24] <jdodson99> 173.216.1.66
#3628 [23:24] <jdodson99> I'll summon you when you get on
#3629 [23:25] <jdodson99> Put the fog on high, there's a lot to render.
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