#1 [00:00] <john9098> guys if i build on top of a spawnpoint will the spawn be the thing at the top?
#2 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3 [00:00] <john9098> like a building for example
#4 [00:00] <john9098> ill spawn on top of the building?
#5 [00:00] <brand0ng> anyone know the name of the tron-style texture pack? its not called tron, i already looked
#6 [00:00] * GreyVulpine nods at john9098
#6 [00:01] <brand0ng> who ruined #minecraft
#7 [00:01] <brand0ng> some lame mod?
#8 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> You sure brand0ng?
#9 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=95966
#10 [00:01] <brand0ng> oh wow
#11 [00:01] <brand0ng> im blind
#12 [00:01] <brand0ng> thanks GreyVulpine
#13 [00:02] <brand0ng> last time i tried to use the HDpatcher it broke my minecraft
#14 [00:02] <brand0ng> (i use the linux version) anyone got any tips?
#15 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it tends to do that, unfortunately.
#16 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> Just hope for the best?
#17 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> Start with a fresh install?
#18 [00:03] <brand0ng> didnt seem to change the outcome, maybe i was doing it wrong
#19 [00:03] <brand0ng> this one requires hd patch
#20 [00:03] <brand0ng> thats why i asked
#21 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Completely delete your /.minecraft/, have it redownload fresh files, then apply the fix?
#22 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Other than that...
#23 [00:03] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#23 [00:03] <brand0ng> hmm ok
#24 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow... Multiplayer "Beta" server software finally got changed on the website
#25 [00:08] <xales> Took long enough
#26 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#27 [00:19] <Mikau> Killer boots, man.
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#29 [00:22] <AnthroHuskey> so i was running around some desert and found a large pool of water not too deep and swimming around in it were octopus
#30 [00:22] <AnthroHuskey> is this part of the new update?
#31 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#32 [00:22] <AnthroHuskey> kick ass what else was added?
#33 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> http://notch.tumblr.com/
#34 [00:23] <AnthroHuskey> what can i use the ink sacks for?
#35 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> To Dye with
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#37 [00:23] <AnthroHuskey> with wool?
#38 [00:23] <xales> Go up to a sheep and right click it, AnthroHuskey
#39 [00:24] <Mikau> NO
#40 [00:24] <xales> with the ink sack/dye
#41 [00:24] <Mikau> Go up to the sheep, and punch it in it's stupid face with your diamond sword.
#42 [00:24] <Mikau> Show that sheep who's boss.
#43 [00:24] <AnthroHuskey> lol and what does that do?
#44 [00:25] <AnthroHuskey> hitting it with the ink sack i mean
#45 [00:25] <dopeghoti> don't dye wool; it's wasteful
#46 [00:25] <dopeghoti> dye sheep
#47 [00:26] <AnthroHuskey> ahhh ok
#48 [00:26] <AnthroHuskey> and the octopus are differnt colors right?
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#56 [00:38] <Dukkstar> Hi everyone. New to the game here. =)
#57 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#58 [00:40] <Dukkstar> Thus far I have been loving the game and I was wondering if I entered the right Irc channel.. because I'm looking for some generals tips and a chill online server.
#59 [00:41] <Visiiri> This is partially the right IRC channel.
#60 [00:41] <Visiiri> You can get some tips here, however, #smp (Survival Multiplayer) is the place to go for servers.
#61 [00:41] <Visiiri> The only tip I can give is play on peaceful :O
#62 [00:41] <Dukkstar> Glad to know I'm partially in the right channel.
#63 [00:42] <Dukkstar> O.o! Well I started just as is and I've been doing ok, well atleast I think I have. Kinda delayed by nightfall.
#64 [00:42] <Visiiri> Yeah, night sucks :S
#65 [00:42] <Visiiri> You can't see anything and there's evil monsters.
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#68 [00:43] <mib_q9q2s4> vf
#69 [00:43] <mib_q9q2s4> caanyone you know
#70 [00:44] <mib_q9q2s4> anyone here me?
#71 [00:44] <Visiiri> :S
#72 [00:44] * GreyVulpine sighs
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#73 [00:45] <Dukkstar2> Ack I crashed.. anyways I missed
#74 [00:45] <Dukkstar2> What you said after peaceful if you said anything
#75 [00:45] <Visiiri> Nothing good was said.
#76 [00:46] <Visiiri> Just a few guys spamming.
#77 [00:46] <Dukkstar2> Lame,
#78 [00:46] <Dukkstar2> Can I get the channel for the survival servers? I didnt catch it
#79 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> #smp
#80 [00:46] <Dukkstar2> I'll problably be there and here.
#81 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> It's almost always deserted
#82 [00:47] <Dukkstar2> Ohh =/
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#85 [00:50] <Acerill> anyone know how to fully set up and install a minecraft server..
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#87 [00:51] <Acerill> im looking to hire someone for my fcompany www.wright-servers.com
#88 [00:51] <Acerill> open up live chat there and we'll discuss more
#89 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> uh, what do you mean?
#90 [00:53] <Acerill> looking for someone who knows how to fully set up Minecraft servers and resolve tech support
#91 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I see.
#92 [00:53] <KillSpammer> Lol
#93 [00:54] <KillSpammer> Paying?
#94 [00:54] <KillSpammer> :)
#95 [00:54] <Acerill> Possibly yes
#96 [00:54] <KillSpammer> HOLY SHIT
#97 [00:54] <KillSpammer> Runs for chat
#98 [00:54] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, you going for that?
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#100 [00:54] <Acerill> just go to Wright-Servers.com and click on livechat and we'll see what we can work out
#101 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> I've always told myself, the day I get paid to support people on Minecraft, is the day I leave this community
#102 [00:55] <KillSpammer> Oh ok...
#103 [00:55] <Acerill> ill pass a free minecraft server if you'd like?
#104 [00:55] <KillSpammer> Lol
#105 [00:55] <KillSpammer> :O
#106 [00:55] <KillSpammer> Iĺl take that deal
#107 [00:55] <Acerill> hop on live chat on my site, and we'll work out a deal
#108 [00:55] <TheBix> hey
#109 [00:55] <KillSpammer> I conected
#110 [00:55] <TheBix> I've hooked up the data bus on some very basic redstone rom to some note blocks
#111 [00:55] * GreyVulpine pokes xales with i41.tinypic.com/k1op35.jpg
#111 [00:56] <TheBix> and the problem is that all the bits on the data bus don't switch at the same time
#112 [00:56] <TheBix> what do I do?
#113 [00:56] <TheBix> to sync the output to the note blocks that is
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#115 [00:57] <Kaikz> Anyone know why my Single Player FPS doesn't go higher than 0?
#116 [00:57] <Kaikz> http://cl.ly/43fT
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#118 [00:57] <TheBix> because ur on a laptop and have itunes open?
#119 [00:57] <KillSpammer> Lol
#120 [00:58] <TheBix> and your graphics not turned down
#121 [00:58] <Kaikz> It was working earlier
#122 [00:59] <Kaikz> I died, respawned, then that happened.
#123 [00:59] <TheBix> then I don't know
#124 [00:59] <KillSpammer> Kaikz
#125 [00:59] <KillSpammer> Its called Java :)
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#127 [01:00] <Kaikz> ..I have Java
#128 [01:00] <Kaikz> As I said, everything has been working fine until now.
#129 [01:00] <xales> GreyVulpine: That. /bookmark
#130 [01:00] <Kaikz> I just went onto a bukkit test server fine.
#131 [01:00] <TheBix> thats not what he meant.
#132 [01:00] <TheBix> he meant the problem is java
#133 [01:00] <TheBix> because java is shit
#134 [01:00] <Kaikz> That, I agree with.
#135 [01:01] <TheBix> so anyone good with redstone here?
#136 [01:02] <Kaikz> eh, I made a TNT cannon last night with redstone. :3
#137 [01:02] <TheBix> yeah but can you solve my problem :P
#138 [01:02] <Kaikz> What are you trying to make?
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#140 [01:03] <TheBix> music machine with redstone rom
#141 [01:03] * Kaikz lost
#141 [01:03] <TheBix> I'm making a proof of concept ATM with 4 bit wide rom with 2 addresses
#142 [01:03] * Kaikz hasn't had a chance to play with note blocks yet ):
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#143 [01:04] <TheBix> well you know what ROM is right?
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#145 [01:04] <Kaikz> nope
#146 [01:04] <Kaikz> :3
#147 [01:05] <TheBix> ok then you can't help me. but just so you know its Read Only Memory
#148 [01:05] <Kaikz> eh
#149 [01:06] <Kaikz> I just reinstalled the client, started a new world, that's fine, then put my old one back in and to problem is there again
#150 [01:06] <Kaikz> So the map is corrupt.
#151 [01:06] <Kaikz> ):
#152 [01:07] <KillSpammer> Yup
#153 [01:08] <TheBix> redstone should be faster
#154 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> redstone is also finicky
#155 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> and server lag just adds to the mess
#156 [01:08] <TheBix> like 2 ticks per frame instead of one
#157 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#158 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> It all depends on the southwest rule as well.
#159 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> damn coordinates
#160 [01:09] <TheBix> hey could you help me with my redstone problem?
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#162 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> I have horrid issues with redstone and music blocks myself
#163 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> I don't know what help I could be
#164 [01:10] <TheBix> well this is more a memory thing
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#166 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Oof, yeah, I don't think I'll be much help there.
#167 [01:12] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, I might end up working as tech support for this guy :)
#168 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Cool
#169 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> G'luck.
#170 [01:12] <KillSpammer> Lol
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#172 [01:14] <allenmelon> is there momentum when riding a minecart?
#173 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#174 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> It eventually slows to a stop
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#176 [01:16] <allenmelon> aww dangit, cause i wanted this ride to go from one point to another, and then at the end i can push the cart back so it goes to the beginning
#177 [01:16] <allenmelon> but it doesnt go as far as when im in it
#178 [01:16] <KillSpammer> Hey uhh grey
#179 [01:16] <KillSpammer> Whats the server java code thingy to allocate 2gb of ram?
#180 [01:16] <KillSpammer> i mean 1
#181 [01:16] <KillSpammer> Actually nvm...
#182 [01:17] <KillSpammer> I´m stupid
#183 [01:17] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, slap me!
#184 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> !slap KillSpammer
#185 [01:17] * GreyBot slaps KillSpammer with a rose.
#185 [01:17] <KillSpammer> Not you GreyBot
#186 [01:18] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, you!
#187 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> !slap KillSpammer
#188 [01:18] * GreyBot slaps KillSpammer with Tintin's father Herge.
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#192 [01:30] <KillSpammer> Ok GreyVulpine just to confirm this
#193 [01:30] <allenmelon> do storage minecarts have the same momentum as me in a normal minecart?
#194 [01:30] <KillSpammer> Are you suppose to have the ip in the server-ip= thing in the server.properties
#195 [01:30] <KillSpammer> I dont think so
#196 [01:30] <KillSpammer> But i must confirm!
#197 [01:31] <KillSpammer> Allenmelon yes :)
#198 [01:31] <KillSpammer> I think
#199 [01:31] <KillSpammer> 2300 ftp files to trasfer :(
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#201 [01:31] <jscinoz_> Hi
#202 [01:32] <TheBix> ok its confirmed
#203 [01:32] <TheBix> redstone is too slow for music
#204 [01:34] <Visiiri> Yep
#205 [01:34] <jscinoz_> I'm having some issues with minecraft... When i make the window bigger than the default size, the game's renderer viewport doesnt scale up. It remains at the original size in the top left corner of the window, the remainder of the window is black... I found this only happens with sun-jre, not with openjdk. However, I can't use openjdk as it's far too slow to get a useful framerate... any ideas? (There's more information here http://www
#206 [01:34] <Visiiri> Far too slow
#207 [01:35] <KillSpammer> jscinoz_, its imposible to fix
#208 [01:35] <KillSpammer> Its a code problem
#209 [01:35] <KillSpammer> Just restart minecraft
#210 [01:35] <jscinoz_> KillSpammer: i've restarted it many times, that doesnt help at all. When it restarts its back at the default window size
#211 [01:35] <KillSpammer> Yes...
#212 [01:36] <jscinoz_> the point is, I don't want to play it in the tiny window...
#213 [01:36] <KillSpammer> Then maximize it
#214 [01:36] * jscinoz_ facepalms
#214 [01:36] <jscinoz_> I do so
#215 [01:36] <jscinoz_> the game renderer remains at its current size in the top left of my display
#216 [01:36] <jscinoz_> the rest of the window is simply black
#217 [01:36] <allenmelon> to use a powered minecart, you hold fuel in ur hand and right click on the powered minecart in the direction you want it to go?
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#219 [01:37] <KillSpammer> Thats uhh strange?
#220 [01:37] <AnthroHuskey> so i got soem black wool tyhat was cool
#221 [01:37] <AnthroHuskey> i read notchs blog
#222 [01:37] <jscinoz_> KillSpammer: and it seems there's no one who has any more technical knowledge than "herpderp restart ur windoze"
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#224 [01:37] <AnthroHuskey> where can i find the new crafting recipes and those two new blocks?
#225 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> AnthroHuskey - wiki
#226 [01:37] <KillSpammer> jscinoz_,
#227 [01:37] <KillSpammer> You should be able to maximize and it should be fine
#228 [01:37] <AnthroHuskey> link plz
#229 [01:38] <KillSpammer> That problem happens when you press f11
#230 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting
#231 [01:38] <jscinoz_> KillSpammer: yes, I should, but it odoesnt work.
#232 [01:38] <jscinoz_> KillSpammer: and fullscreen gets the incorrect resolution too
#233 [01:38] <AnthroHuskey> thanks grey
#234 [01:38] <jscinoz_> it tries to do 3840x1200 instead of 1920x1200 (mutlimonitor)
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#236 [01:38] <KillSpammer> jscinoz_, well...
#237 [01:39] <KillSpammer> jscinoz_, it seems your the only one ive heard having htis problem
#238 [01:39] <jscinoz_> KillSpammer: perhaps, but nonetheless it's a bug
#239 [01:39] <KillSpammer> It is...
#240 [01:39] <KillSpammer> But perhaps its more of a java bug?
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#242 [01:39] <KillSpammer> Then the codes bug?
#243 [01:39] <jscinoz_> perhaps not in minecraft itself however... but at least a reply on the forums would be nice its only been 3 days
#244 [01:39] <KillSpammer> Tried reinstalling java
#245 [01:39] <jscinoz_> yes
#246 [01:39] <jscinoz_> MANY times
#247 [01:39] * jscinoz_ is not an idiot
#247 [01:40] <jscinoz_> I'm using gentoo for fuck's sake.
#248 [01:40] <KillSpammer> jscinoz_, the forums are a horrible place to get support its full of idoits.
#249 [01:40] <KillSpammer> I wonder if GreyVulpine the master can help us here?
#250 [01:40] <jscinoz_> if you'd look at the link i posted, I detailed my system hardware, and software setup
#251 [01:40] <jscinoz_> and that i've tried with both openjdk and sun's JRE
#252 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> Bah I'm busy
#253 [01:40] <AnthroHuskey> woohoo finaly getting those colored blocks in beta
#254 [01:40] <jscinoz_> sun-jre = fast but the renderer never scales up
#255 [01:40] <KillSpammer> 2000 ftp files go...
#256 [01:40] <KillSpammer> 20 mins to get them done...
#257 [01:40] <jscinoz_> openjdk = slow, but the renderer scales properly
#258 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> jscinoz_ - Version of sun java?
#259 [01:41] <jscinoz_> GreyVulpine: 1.6.0.23
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#261 [01:43] <jscinoz_> GreyVulpine: backgroudn info: gentoo, amd64, using a tiling window manager (awesome)
#262 [01:43] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, is much smarter than me
#263 [01:43] <jscinoz_> and, obviously i'm playing it with the local client, NOT in a browser
#264 [01:44] <jscinoz_> i'll chuck a scrto demonstrate this problem
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#269 [01:50] <jscinoz_> KillSpammer, GreyVulpine http://i.imgur.com/YhiuC.png
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#271 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Ah, hmm, interesting
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#273 [01:52] <jscinoz_> im making a screenshot of the fullscreen issue too
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#276 [01:54] <KillSpammer> jscinoz_, try press F11?
#277 [01:55] <jscinoz_> KillSpammer: I did, give me a minute to put up the screenshot showing how that fails
#278 [01:55] <KillSpammer> Oh ok.
#279 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried any other WMs other than Awesome?
#280 [01:56] <jscinoz_> No, and I'm not going to change window manager just to play a game
#281 [01:56] * GreyVulpine nods
#281 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> Well, besides java, the other thing you could update is lwjgl itself.
#282 [01:56] <jscinoz_> GreyVulpine: isn't that shipped with minecraft, i don't belive i have a system lwjgl installed
#283 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft installs an earlier version
#284 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> 2.4.2, if I remember correctly
#285 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> http://www.lwjgl.org/download.php
#286 [01:57] <jscinoz_> alright, one moment
#287 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> 2.6 is the latest stable build, or you can go for one of the nightly builds there
#288 [01:57] <jscinoz_> should i just drop it in ~/.minecraft/bin overwriting the existing one?
#289 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Yes, exactly
#290 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> There should be a .zip file that you download, in the zip file will be folders (jar and natives) that you can extract and overwrite into your...
#291 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> /bin and /bin/natives
#292 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> respectively
#293 [01:58] <jscinoz_> one minute
#294 [01:58] <KillSpammer> 1200 files to go...
#295 [01:58] <KillSpammer> FTP is like so baddass
#296 [01:59] <KillSpammer> Its epic speeds
#297 [01:59] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#297 [01:59] <KillSpammer> 3000 files that are 2.7mb in total taking half an hour!
#298 [01:59] <KillSpammer> YES!
#299 [01:59] <KillSpammer> Lol
#300 [01:59] <jscinoz_> xD
#301 [01:59] <OODavo> KillSpammer: You could archive the files first?
#302 [01:59] <jscinoz_> thats what i don't like about the MC map format.... some filesystems die when you've got a huge number of small files
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#304 [01:59] <jscinoz_> but pretty much all of them can handle a files
#305 [01:59] <OODavo> Then extract on arrival?
#306 [01:59] <KillSpammer> OODavo, I tried that
#307 [02:00] <OODavo> And?
#308 [02:00] <jscinoz_> KillSpammer, GreyVulpine http://i.imgur.com/qaUWV.png is the fullscreen bug i get
#309 [02:00] <KillSpammer> For some reason it does want to unzip :(
#310 [02:00] <OODavo> Darn.
#311 [02:00] <OODavo> I assume you meant it doesn't.
#312 [02:00] <OODavo> Darn.
#313 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> Wow, I almost want to say that's a WM thing.
#314 [02:01] <jscinoz_> GreyVulpine: The fullscreen bug is the same with openjdk and sun-jre. However the earlier bug, the window-resizing one, *only* occurs with Sun-jre
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#316 [02:02] <Kaikz> Goddamn, how do you play Minecraft at that res.?
#317 [02:02] <Kaikz> I find it hard to play fullscreen on a 13". :/
#318 [02:02] <jscinoz_> Kaikz: I don't if you'd read up :P
#319 [02:02] <jscinoz_> since half the game gets cut off :S
#320 [02:02] <Branflakes> Does anyone know how to get rid of a texture pack that crashes minecraft? I can't make it to the menu to find the folder that lets me get rid of it.
#321 [02:02] <Acerill> Killspam hop back on livechat
#322 [02:02] <Kaikz> yea but still..
#323 [02:02] <Kaikz> :/
#324 [02:02] <Valium> Branflakes: yep
#325 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Branflakes - What OS?
#326 [02:03] <Branflakes> Vista
#327 [02:03] <jscinoz_> rm ~/.minecraft/texturepacks/$OFFENDING_PACK
#328 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> start -> %appdata%
#329 [02:03] <jscinoz_> oh
#330 [02:03] <jscinoz_> windows
#331 [02:03] <KillSpammer> On my way Acerill
#332 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> /roaming/.minecraft/texture packs
#333 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> delete
#334 [02:04] <Branflakes> Thanks, that should fix it :)
#335 [02:04] <Branflakes> It worked :)
#336 [02:05] <Branflakes> Thanks guys
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#338 [02:07] <jscinoz_> GreyVulpine: chucked a new lwjgl in there, no luck
#339 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I've been looking around, pretty sparse, but there are a couple which match your error.
#340 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/scaling_the_games_window_doesnt_change_its_contents_size
#341 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=14940
#342 [02:10] <jscinoz_> sec
#343 [02:10] <jscinoz_> holy crap
#344 [02:10] <jscinoz_> why is my load average 91.98
#345 [02:10] <jscinoz_> and moreso, why is my system still responsive :O
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#347 [02:11] <mib_v4n19z> hello
#348 [02:11] <mib_v4n19z> anyone here?
#349 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#350 [02:11] <mib_v4n19z> ok
#351 [02:12] <mib_v4n19z> can you help?
#352 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps, if you tell me what your problem is
#353 [02:12] <mib_v4n19z> i need help on making a server
#354 [02:12] <mib_v4n19z> i can get one up and going but i cant make anything
#355 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#356 [02:13] <mib_v4n19z> its that same for anyone joining my server
#357 [02:13] <mib_v4n19z> like i try to collect wood from trees but ni=othing happens
#358 [02:13] <mib_v4n19z> *nothing
#359 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Move away from the spawn?
#360 [02:13] <mib_v4n19z> the tree blocks are untouched
#361 [02:13] <mib_v4n19z> i tried that too
#362 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> More than 20 blocks away?
#363 [02:14] <mib_v4n19z> is there something i have to change in the server setting properties
#364 [02:14] <mib_v4n19z> 20 blocks maybe
#365 [02:14] <mib_v4n19z> i'll try
#366 [02:14] <mib_v4n19z> brb
#367 [02:15] <mib_v4n19z> omg that was it
#368 [02:15] <mib_v4n19z> i moved far away and it works
#369 [02:15] <mib_v4n19z> thanks guys
#370 [02:15] <mib_v4n19z> ^_^
#371 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> spawn protection
#372 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> blocks around spawn are protected
#373 [02:15] <mib_v4n19z> oh i didnt know
#374 [02:16] <mib_v4n19z> i just got the game
#375 [02:16] <mib_v4n19z> thanks
#376 [02:16] * GreyVulpine nods
#376 [02:16] <jscinoz_> I've noticed explosions can still screw with spawn blocks though :P
#377 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, creepers can blow up spawn blocks
#378 [02:17] <jscinoz_> and people with tnt :P
#379 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> frigging creepers
#380 [02:17] <jscinoz_> on one server, we were messing around with /give... made a column of tnt from bedrock to surface at 0,0
#381 [02:17] <jscinoz_> good times :P
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#384 [02:39] <KillSpammer> Lol GreyVulpine
#385 [02:39] <KillSpammer> This server this guys trying to host
#386 [02:40] <KillSpammer> Its hosting the files from somewhere else
#387 [02:40] <KillSpammer> Other than the ftp he gave me :S
#388 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#389 [02:42] <KillSpammer> Ive quit on it :)
#390 [02:42] <KillSpammer> Hes just gonna use a generated map :)
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#392 [02:42] <Ken> Hello, minecrafthelp, im having what seems to be a common issue. I cannot connect to a friends server nor can they connect to mine. I have followed all the tutorials and third party tutorials that show how to do this, turned off firewalls and all i can think of. so i ask, what else must i do?
#393 [02:42] <KillSpammer> Port fowarded?
#394 [02:43] <netherian> whoa
#395 [02:43] <netherian> no newline
#396 [02:43] <OODavo> Ken: What's the IP?
#397 [02:44] <Ken> i would rather not give out my IP on a public forum, having just said i turned off my firewall.
#398 [02:45] <OODavo> Ken: Fair enough.
#399 [02:45] <OODavo> Have you forwarded your ports properly?
#400 [02:45] <netherian> is your server currently running?
#401 [02:46] <Ken> the server is running. and i assume that they are properly configured. as i precisely followed the tutorials given in the wiki.
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#403 [02:46] <netherian> the port you're running it through is open?
#404 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> Ken - Just so you know, by coming to this IRC channel, you've already given away your IP. This IRCd doesn't provide hostmasking services
#405 [02:47] <netherian> grey: we were going to keep that a secret
#406 [02:47] <netherian> to humor him
#407 [02:48] <Ken> alright then. sorry to bother.
#408 [02:48] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#408 [02:48] <netherian> ...heh...
#409 [02:48] <netherian> wait what?
#410 [02:49] <OODavo> Why did he just leave?
#411 [02:49] <OODavo> :/
#412 [02:49] <netherian> dunno, but it was funny
#413 [02:50] <netherian> now would be a bad time for him to discover he has a virus
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#416 [02:59] <ravex> hi
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#424 [03:21] <netherian> 'night
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#430 [03:31] <Felz> Good morning, anyone else having trouble connecting minecart tracks?
#431 [03:31] <Felz> The last piece I put down doesn't connect to the latter, nor the next
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#436 [03:48] <MuTTe> is someone here familiar with the hey0 mod?
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#439 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> MuTTe - No longer works
#440 [03:49] <MuTTe> okej
#441 [03:49] <MuTTe> ty
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#450 [04:39] <SirBlack> Hey there.. since hmod is out, bukkit is replacing hey0 new mod?
#451 [04:40] <SirBlack> or? =O
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#454 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> SirBlack - Yes.
#455 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> SirBlack - Once bukkit is finished, it will take over as the successor to hmod
#456 [04:51] <SirBlack> okey..im not sure what third party mods are.. so if i ask something thats not allowed plz tell me :P
#457 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> hmod and bukkit are third party mods.
#458 [04:51] <SirBlack> okey.. so u shouldnt answer me? ;D
#459 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> We don't officially support them here. Takes too much effort to learn all the different mods and plugins, and understand all the interactions they may cause.
#460 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> I can direct you to #bukkit if you have any questions with that
#461 [04:52] <OODavo> We basically just support getting rid of them all and returning to vanilla Minecraft.
#462 [04:52] <SirBlack> ah.. okey.. no ill get there myself..
#463 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> Vanilla Minecraft is just easier to troubleshoot with.
#464 [04:52] <SirBlack> ok.. well i just want a server with playerlist!
#465 [04:52] * GreyVulpine nods
#465 [04:52] <OODavo> Fair enough.
#466 [04:52] <SirBlack> is there any wasy way to get?
#467 [04:53] <SirBlack> easy*
#468 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> Check #bukkit, they do release early snapshots of their mod.
#469 [04:53] <SirBlack> ok.. thanks.
#470 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> It's not in any way close to being finished, but some people have started using it (at their discretion)
#471 [04:55] <SirBlack> okey.. ye i've been reading for a while.. but there isn't it way to many things that mess the game up..
#472 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> Modding minecraft? There's tons of ways it could screw it up.
#473 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Plugins could interfere with each other, it could screw with the original files in a way that screws up level data.
#474 [04:56] <OODavo> Since the modding is on obfuscated code and isn't officially suported, it doesn't work so well.
#475 [04:56] <OODavo> Once the modding API's done everything will work so much better.
#476 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Modding isn't officially supported, so everybody's decompiling minecraft code, and figuring out ways to hook in.
#477 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> That can cause all sorts of problems.
#478 [04:57] <SirBlack> I See.
#479 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> I'd like to see them succeed, like with any other server admin, but I know from first-hand experience, troubleshooting a modded server/client can be hell
#480 [04:59] <SirBlack> hehe :D They have to work they asses..
#481 [05:00] <SirBlack> thanks for answers anyways., have to go
#482 [05:00] <SirBlack> bye
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#485 [05:07] <Dan> ok i need help super bad
#486 [05:08] <Guest1390138668> i need help like really bad
#487 [05:08] <Guest1390138668> i am freaking out
#488 [05:09] <Guest1390138668> is anyone ther?
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#493 [05:21] <lemon-rev> wht with
#494 [05:23] <grand> hmm?
#495 [05:23] <lemon-rev> hum, a little late lol
#496 [05:23] <lemon-rev> oh well
#497 [05:24] <lemon-rev> just noticed it a little while ago
#498 [05:24] <grand> :)
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#501 [05:39] <SinZ> now.. the waiting game for mojang
#502 [05:39] <grand> huh?
#503 [05:40] <SinZ> i need to speak to a mojang person to get my account fixed, finnaly found my transaction id
#504 [05:40] <grand> ah
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#506 [05:41] <Abuk007> hello
#507 [05:42] <Abuk007> does changing network card MAC adress affect connectivity to server?
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#509 [05:42] <Abuk007> by changing i mean using spoofing software
#510 [05:42] <lemon-rev> is that the port your port forwarding
#511 [05:44] <Abuk007> anyone knows?
#512 [05:45] <lemon-rev> what os
#513 [05:46] <Abuk007> who? me?
#514 [05:47] <grand> yes
#515 [05:47] <lemon-rev> what else am i talking to my self
#516 [05:47] <Abuk007> win 7 64 bit
#517 [05:47] <Abuk007> i have atheros card and cant host server
#518 [05:47] <Abuk007> does spoofing mac adress solve the problem?
#519 [05:47] <grand> ports fowarded?
#520 [05:47] <Abuk007> yep
#521 [05:48] <lemon-rev> i dont belive it would, theres only one port you really need to port forward if thats what your doing 25565
#522 [05:48] <grand> can u not connect or others?
#523 [05:48] <lemon-rev> depends if yu spoof the wrong port
#524 [05:48] <Abuk007> its all forwarded
#525 [05:48] <Abuk007> server logs connection
#526 [05:48] <Abuk007> but no one can connect form external IP
#527 [05:49] <lemon-rev> correct
#528 [05:49] <Abuk007> I was said its cause of atheros card
#529 [05:49] <Abuk007> and its conflict with java
#530 [05:49] <lemon-rev> hm
#531 [05:49] <lemon-rev> then what the game doesnt work
#532 [05:49] <lemon-rev> or just doesnt connect
#533 [05:49] <Abuk007> everything works
#534 [05:49] <Abuk007> just hosting the server isnt working
#535 [05:49] <lemon-rev> if you can run the game then you should beable to connect to others providing yuo know the ip
#536 [05:49] <Abuk007> i mean, server IS hosted, i can connect localy
#537 [05:50] <lemon-rev> well hm
#538 [05:50] <Abuk007> but no one can externaly, ports open, no firewall on
#539 [05:50] <Abuk007> server logs player as connected
#540 [05:50] <Abuk007> and player gets timeout
#541 [05:50] <Abuk007> server says genericreason
#542 [05:50] <lemon-rev> so hwo many people can connect locally
#543 [05:50] <Abuk007> didnt check
#544 [05:50] <Abuk007> i can :F
#545 [05:50] <lemon-rev> i see
#546 [05:50] <Abuk007> not from localhost
#547 [05:50] <Abuk007> but from localadress
#548 [05:51] <Abuk007> so localy its working
#549 [05:51] <lemon-rev> i b elive so
#550 [05:51] <Abuk007> abuk007.dyndns.org
#551 [05:51] <Abuk007> server adress
#552 [05:51] <Abuk007> gives java exception or timeout
#553 [05:51] <lemon-rev> 87.205.220.180 <
#554 [05:51] <lemon-rev> thats the ip im getting
#555 [05:52] <lemon-rev> and its getting no time on it
#556 [05:52] <Abuk007> wait, removing spoof
#557 [05:52] <Abuk007> just checked spoof software if it helps
#558 [05:52] <Abuk007> :F
#559 [05:52] <lemon-rev> nope
#560 [05:53] <lemon-rev> still timing out
#561 [05:53] <KillSpammer> Uhh
#562 [05:53] <KillSpammer> Anyone good with CSS Coding?
#563 [05:53] <grand> not proper place to ask that :/
#564 [05:54] <Abuk007> Success: I can see your service on 87.205.220.180 on port (25565)
#565 [05:54] <Abuk007> Your ISP is not blocking port 2556
#566 [05:54] <grand> but i know some
#567 [05:54] <Abuk007> canyouseeme.org
#568 [05:54] <KillSpammer> And irc grand?
#569 [05:54] <KillSpammer> s
#570 [05:54] <lemon-rev> abuk007 ?
#571 [05:55] <Abuk007> ?
#572 [05:55] <lemon-rev> how did you do that chick
#573 [05:55] <lemon-rev> check*
#574 [05:55] <Abuk007> website
#575 [05:55] <Abuk007> :F
#576 [05:55] <Abuk007> www.canyouseeme.org
#577 [05:55] <lemon-rev> wtf
#578 [05:56] <lemon-rev> then why is that, timeing out if i try and ping it
#579 [05:56] <Abuk007> no-ip.com service
#580 [05:56] <KillSpammer> Grand, where can i ask :S
#581 [05:56] <lemon-rev> abuk007 i think all your ip services atm is the problem
#582 [05:56] <grand> i dont know of any CSS icr's
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#584 [05:57] <Abuk007> ?
#585 [05:57] <lemon-rev> you can use dns is its working but, no-ip confuses the ip address so its not universally complete
#586 [05:57] <lemon-rev> look
#587 [05:57] <grand> Kill
#588 [05:58] <Abuk007> no-ip port check service
#589 [05:58] <lemon-rev> http://vaevictus.net/minecraft/ < if you cant do that test
#590 [05:58] <Abuk007> i dont use dns now
#591 [05:58] <lemon-rev> then you cant do
#592 [05:58] <lemon-rev> server
#593 [05:58] <Abuk007> Starting test of 87.205.220.180:25565...
#594 [05:58] <Abuk007> Connected...
#595 [05:58] <Abuk007> Sent handshake...
#596 [05:58] <Abuk007> Received handshake from server.
#597 [05:58] <Abuk007> Disconnected from server.
#598 [05:58] <Abuk007> Test concluded successfully
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#600 [05:58] <grand> KillSpammer got steam? or skype?
#601 [05:58] <lemon-rev> ok so now test it with a willing tester
#602 [05:59] <KillSpammer> I have skype
#603 [05:59] <lemon-rev> set your serv er up and try and get your friends to connect to it
#604 [05:59] <KillSpammer> KillSpammer-Tom
#605 [05:59] <Abuk007> can you try?
#606 [05:59] <Abuk007> 87.205.220.180
#607 [05:59] <lemon-rev> hangon
#608 [05:59] <Abuk007> i will tell you what console says
#609 [06:00] <lemon-rev> nope so far
#610 [06:00] <Abuk007> lemonrv (your ip) logged in with entity id 62
#611 [06:00] <Abuk007> lemonrev lost conection disconnect.endofstream
#612 [06:00] <lemon-rev> m
#613 [06:00] <Abuk007> again logged in
#614 [06:00] <lemon-rev> yeea i just put the 25565 at the end
#615 [06:00] <lemon-rev> hopeing that changes
#616 [06:01] <lemon-rev> you useing jar or exe ?
#617 [06:01] <Abuk007> lost connection: disconnect.endofstream
#618 [06:01] <lemon-rev> i get timed out on mc
#619 [06:01] <Abuk007> tried both jar and bat
#620 [06:01] <lemon-rev> hm
#621 [06:01] <lemon-rev> try exe
#622 [06:01] <lemon-rev> not bat
#623 [06:01] <Abuk007> link to server?
#624 [06:01] <lemon-rev> minecraft.net
#625 [06:01] <lemon-rev> download the server
#626 [06:01] <lemon-rev> there
#627 [06:02] <Abuk007> ah sry
#628 [06:02] <Abuk007> im using exe
#629 [06:02] <Abuk007> already
#630 [06:02] <lemon-rev> theres a minecraft server < but it doesnt have.exe at the end
#631 [06:02] <lemon-rev> you have to add it
#632 [06:02] <lemon-rev> hm
#633 [06:02] <lemon-rev> something is still blocking it
#634 [06:02] <Abuk007> seems like i need to buy new network card ;/
#635 [06:03] <lemon-rev> strange thing is that your able to get that test done
#636 [06:03] <lemon-rev> unless you can work out what it really is that is killing the service
#637 [06:04] <Abuk007> ;/
#638 [06:04] <Abuk007> atheros asus's bullshit
#639 [06:04] <lemon-rev> hm
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#641 [06:05] <lemon-rev> maybe you just need to get others to serve a server for you
#642 [06:14] <Abuk007> i just wanted to host my server
#643 [06:14] <Abuk007> to check some stuff
#644 [06:14] <Abuk007> and play a bit with mods/plugins addons etc
#645 [06:15] <Abuk007> to see how it works
#646 [06:15] <Abuk007> ;/
#647 [06:15] <grand> is the card built in or 3rd party?
#648 [06:15] <lemon-rev> i see
#649 [06:15] <Abuk007> built in
#650 [06:15] <grand> oh :/
#651 [06:15] <Abuk007> asus stock one
#652 [06:15] <Abuk007> shall i buy 10/1000 gigabit one or 10/100 ?
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#654 [06:16] <grand> goto speedtest.net and give me your down speed
#655 [06:18] <grand> and?
#656 [06:18] <Abuk007> 2.27 mbit
#657 [06:19] <Abuk007> 0.3 up
#658 [06:19] <grand> 10/100 will be plenty
#659 [06:20] <Abuk007> 10/100 means up/down or down/up ?
#660 [06:20] <grand> with 0.3 up more then 2-3 people on your server and it will see some lag just a future reference
#661 [06:20] <grand> both
#662 [06:20] <grand> 10/100 means it can handle 100 but your at almost 3 so 100 is planty or room
#663 [06:20] <Abuk007> yeah i know im looking forward to 6mbit net
#664 [06:21] <Abuk007> and 10 means?
#665 [06:21] <grand> ill be gettin optic soon so i know how the wait scks
#666 [06:21] <grand> sucks*
#667 [06:21] <Abuk007> damn fiber
#668 [06:21] <Abuk007> i wish I had some ^^
#669 [06:21] <grand> 10 down 2 up here :/
#670 [06:22] <Abuk007> thats already imba for me
#671 [06:22] <Abuk007> :F
#672 [06:22] <Abuk007> but minecraft is so fkin RAM hungry...
#673 [06:22] <Abuk007> got 4 gigs and can allocate only 1,5
#674 [06:23] <grand> my server has 4 gb and runs two MC servers
#675 [06:23] <Abuk007> what OS?
#676 [06:23] <grand> linux :)
#677 [06:23] <Abuk007> thats why
#678 [06:23] <Abuk007> :F
#679 [06:23] <grand> i have a dedicated box
#680 [06:23] <Abuk007> i cant get linux :< althou never worked with it
#681 [06:23] <Abuk007> im dedicated gamer
#682 [06:23] <Abuk007> :F
#683 [06:24] <grand> me 2 :P
#684 [06:24] <Abuk007> cant get rid off all that steam games and lots of PC only games
#685 [06:24] <Abuk007> on WIn
#686 [06:24] <Abuk007> :F
#687 [06:24] <grand> linux is easy after yo get used to it and away from the virus we call Microsoft
#688 [06:25] <grand> ever play Gmod?
#689 [06:25] <Abuk007> nope
#690 [06:25] <grand> Hl2?
#691 [06:26] <Abuk007> BC2/Cod4/Cod:BO/HoN/SC2/l4d2/cod:mw2/avp
#692 [06:26] <Abuk007> hl2 not, still i have hl2 dm
#693 [06:27] <grand> ah
#694 [06:27] <grand> those are all good games i mostly play Hl2, l4d2, Gmod, Css
#695 [06:28] <Abuk007> shall we swap channel or private talk? lets not trash support irc
#696 [06:28] <Abuk007> :F
#697 [06:29] <grand> good point and its up to yo :)
#698 [06:30] <KillSpammer> Lol
#699 [06:33] <Abuk007> lol i get cannot sent to channel when trying to type on #minecraft
#700 [06:33] <Abuk007> oh
#701 [06:33] <Abuk007> forgot register
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#704 [06:57] <Thewesker1911> can anyone try to connect to my server? it worked fine yesterday, but today it seems that noone can login, in logs i see : the ip "****.****.****.****:port" lost connection. dont know why
#705 [06:57] <Thewesker1911> serverip is thewesker1911.servegame.com
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#713 [07:37] <KillSpammer> !check thewesker1911.servegame.com
#714 [07:37] <KillSpammer> Oh he left...
#715 [07:37] <KillSpammer> Dead chat
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#717 [07:39] <grand> hmm?
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#719 [07:40] <KillSpammer> It will get active in about 2 hours :)
#720 [07:40] <KillSpammer> Last night was hetic
#721 [07:40] <KillSpammer> Non stop tech support
#722 [07:41] <grand> i think i might join chat more often see who i can help :D
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#726 [07:53] <Kealper> rawr
#727 [08:02] <Con> pealker
#728 [08:02] <Con> That's why you make me think of bells
#729 [08:02] <Con> or something
#730 [08:03] <Kealper> MonCan? lol
#731 [08:07] <grand> random question but are slimes in smp currently?
#732 [08:09] <mbentley> 'Notch confirmed in Coequest's livestream that slimes have been returned as of Beta 1.2_01, but are very rare. '
#733 [08:09] <mbentley> from http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Slimes
#734 [08:10] <grand> k cool
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#736 [08:11] <Kealper> i wonder if they divide correctly
#737 [08:12] <grand> digging tunnel to bedrock now :P
#738 [08:12] <Kealper> the ones before would divide if you hit them, but the little ones were invincible and harmless :/
#739 [08:13] <mbentley> reminds me of zol in the legend of zelda
#740 [08:14] <mbentley> (the blue blobs that would split when you hit them)
#741 [08:15] * Kealper googles
#741 [08:15] <OODavo> mbentley: There were red ones too.
#742 [08:15] <OODavo> I forget what those were called, though.
#743 [08:15] <OODavo> Unless they had the same name.
#744 [08:15] <Kealper> i think i know what you two are talking about....but it's 8am and i just got up, so imma check >.>
#745 [08:16] <mbentley> http://www.zeldawiki.org/Zol
#746 [08:16] <Kealper> yeah, i remember those lol
#747 [08:16] <OODavo> Kealper: Which Zelda games have you played?
#748 [08:17] <Kealper> just about every one up until Majora's Mask
#749 [08:17] <OODavo> Inclusive?
#750 [08:17] <Kealper> yes, i played Majora's Mask, too, but none after that
#751 [08:18] <OODavo> Some of the later ones are still really good.
#752 [08:18] <OODavo> I think my favourite one's probably Minish Cap.
#753 [08:18] <OODavo> Which is technically the first one if played in chronological order.
#754 [08:18] <OODavo> It's confusing.
#755 [08:18] <Kealper> i didn't stop playing the LoZ games due to lack of interest, it was because the newest console i own is an N64 lol
#756 [08:19] <Valium> I need a way to move my SMP spawn point, don't care if it's complicated
#757 [08:19] <OODavo> Valium: MCEdit works if it's your server.
#758 [08:19] <Kealper> Valium: MCEdit
#759 [08:19] <OODavo> Otherwise, no luck.
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#761 [08:19] <Valium> I had issues with it before, but I
#762 [08:19] <Valium> I will try again
#763 [08:19] <OODavo> Kealper: Do you prefer OoT or MM?
#764 [08:19] <Kealper> definately OoT
#765 [08:20] <Kealper> by far my most favorite of the series
#766 [08:20] <OODavo> Everyone seems to like OoT better, but personally I preferred MM.
#767 [08:20] <OODavo> The whole time loop bit was just awesome.
#768 [08:20] <Valium> ALttP
#769 [08:20] <Kealper> MM was good, but i still liked OoT more
#770 [08:20] <Valium> Link to the past, the last true zelda
#771 [08:20] <OODavo> Valium: How so?
#772 [08:20] * Kealper has that for his GBA
#772 [08:21] <OODavo> Yeah, I have it too.
#773 [08:21] <Valium> to me, zelda needs to be 2.5d
#774 [08:21] <Kealper> i'd assume he means when LoZ went from being a 2d scroller to 3d
#775 [08:21] <OODavo> That reminds me: we need another Four Swords game already.
#776 [08:21] <OODavo> Valium: Minish Cap?
#777 [08:21] <Valium> OODavo: true, Played it, havent beat it yet
#778 [08:21] <OODavo> The Oracle games?
#779 [08:21] <OODavo> Link's Awakening, maybe. Not sure when it came out.
#780 [08:21] <Valium> played those too
#781 [08:22] <Valium> Link's awakening is old
#782 [08:22] <OODavo> Yeah, but not as old as LttP. I think.
#783 [08:22] <OODavo> Since LttP is Zelda 3, and the previous two games were Zelda and Zelda II?
#784 [08:22] <OODavo> Unless Awakening didn't get a number.
#785 [08:23] <Valium> lets not talk about zelda 2 >_>
#786 [08:23] * mbentley changes the topic to 'zelda 24/7'
#786 [08:23] <OODavo> I liked Zelda II.
#787 [08:23] <OODavo> Yes.
#788 [08:23] <Valium> it was... okay
#789 [08:23] <OODavo> Let us not talk about the CDi games.
#790 [08:23] <Valium> but platformer...meh
#791 [08:23] <mbentley> haha CDi
#792 [08:23] <Valium> oh god....Played those...sorta
#793 [08:23] <OODavo> The Legend Of Zelda had platforming too.
#794 [08:23] <OODavo> With the sidescrolling bits and the feather?
#795 [08:24] <OODavo> Or was that Awakening.
#796 [08:24] <OODavo> Hmm.
#797 [08:24] <Valium> OODavo picking up the items hardly counts
#798 [08:24] <OODavo> One of the other games definitely had actual platforming.
#799 [08:25] <Valium> So, my buddy is Australia sent me a jar of vegemite today
#800 [08:25] <OODavo> Um, why?
#801 [08:25] <Valium> in*
#802 [08:25] <Valium> vegemite is good stuff man
#803 [08:25] <OODavo> I do not think it is.
#804 [08:26] <Valium> its great
#805 [08:26] <Valium> I know that most don't like it
#806 [08:26] <Valium> but I love it
#807 [08:26] <grand> i have a 9x9x3 room with a 2x2 water source anything else that might help spawn slimes?
#808 [08:27] <OODavo> grand: Playing lots of Zelda.
#809 [08:27] <grand> lol
#810 [08:27] <grand> o and im at berock level
#811 [08:27] <grand> bedrock*
#812 [08:28] <Valium> grand: why on earth would you want slimes?
#813 [08:28] <grand> never seen one ingame
#814 [08:28] <Valium> you cant kill them
#815 [08:28] <OODavo> Valium: One can't?
#816 [08:28] <Valium> not that I've seen
#817 [08:28] <grand> lava?
#818 [08:28] <Valium> I've tried
#819 [08:28] <grand> :p
#820 [08:28] <Valium> lava yes
#821 [08:29] <Valium> if you jump into it
#822 [08:29] <grand> well still want to see one
#823 [08:29] <Valium> rather cute actually
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#825 [08:38] <GLaDOS> INCOMING!
#826 [08:38] <Merciless> hey i was wondering if anyone can help me out
#827 [08:38] <mbentley> with?
#828 [08:38] <GLaDOS> http://pastebin.com/8H2jH931
#829 [08:39] <GLaDOS> that
#830 [08:39] <Merciless> ^
#831 [08:39] <mbentley> hmm
#832 [08:40] <grand> using hmod?
#833 [08:40] <Merciless> i had better light and grass
#834 [08:40] <Merciless> that was all
#835 [08:40] <Merciless> but i got it during vanilla too
#836 [08:40] <grand> ssp then?
#837 [08:41] <Merciless> ssp?
#838 [08:41] <Merciless> mrm's mods
#839 [08:41] <grand> ssp-single player
#840 [08:42] <grand> or multi
#841 [08:42] <Merciless> oh multi
#842 [08:42] <Merciless> it was in smp
#843 [08:42] <Merciless> but i crash in sp too
#844 [08:42] <mbentley> crash with a different error i take it?
#845 [08:42] <Merciless> not sure cant say i've checked sp in a while
#846 [08:43] <Merciless> but smp is what i'm worried about for now
#847 [08:43] <mbentley> do you know what brand of NIC you have?
#848 [08:44] <Merciless> no
#849 [08:44] <grand> what type of motherboard?
#850 [08:44] <mbentley> what operating system are you running? we can check.
#851 [08:44] <Merciless> win 7
#852 [08:44] <Merciless> 64b
#853 [08:44] <mbentley> ok, go to start > type in 'device manager' and hit enter
#854 [08:45] <Merciless> mhm
#855 [08:45] <mbentley> locate the group named 'network adapters' and expand it
#856 [08:45] <mbentley> and that will be your network card
#857 [08:46] <Merciless> yep
#858 [08:47] <Valium> since I havethe files on my system ready for editing, can you modify the inventories of players?
#859 [08:47] <mbentley> and what does it say?
#860 [08:48] <Merciless> ndis 6.0
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#864 [08:48] <grand> ndis 6.0 = realtek
#865 [08:49] <Merciless> realtek rtl8168d/8111d
#866 [08:49] <Merciless> yep
#867 [08:49] <mbentley> could be worth a shot to right click on it and choose 'update driver software' to see if there are any updated drivers.
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#871 [08:51] <Merciless> wasa up to date
#872 [08:51] <Merciless> was up to date
#873 [08:51] <mbentley> well it could be your network connection. are you trying to connect to a server that is in the same country?
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#875 [08:52] <mbentley> since i did notice that you just dropped off...
#876 [08:52] <Merciless> that was cause of the checking for update
#877 [08:52] <Merciless> i assume
#878 [08:53] <Merciless> could it be java. i heard people had troubles due to java on 64bit a while ago
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#880 [08:53] <mbentley> checking for an update shouldn't drop your network connection
#881 [08:53] <mbentley> well are you running the 32 or 64 bit java?
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#883 [08:54] <mbentley> should be able to check using 'java -version' at the command prompt
#884 [08:54] <Merciless> 32 aparently
#885 [08:55] <mbentley> you could try to download the 64 bit version and try that
#886 [08:55] <Merciless> mmm
#887 [08:56] <mbentley> i am not sure which one i am running on my win7 64 bit system at home
#888 [08:57] <Merciless> starting fresh
#889 [08:57] <Merciless> deleted mc and java
#890 [08:57] <mbentley> including the files in '%appdata%\.minecraft' , right?
#891 [09:00] <Merciless> yes
#892 [09:00] <Merciless> :)
#893 [09:00] <mbentley> sorry, just used to holding everyone's hand in here :D
#894 [09:00] <Merciless> nah its cool man
#895 [09:03] <Merciless> seems to be fine now
#896 [09:03] <Merciless> i'm guessing it was a java clash
#897 [09:04] <Merciless> even though i didnt have 32 installed
#898 [09:04] <Merciless> *64 before i mean
#899 [09:07] <grand> anoth strange qestion but anyone know when we might get the nethwe in smp
#900 [09:08] <grand> nether*
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#903 [09:09] <mbentley> grand: not really
#904 [09:09] <mbentley> haven't seen anything to indicate when it will be implemented
#905 [09:10] <mbentley> i would imagine after a new map format is made but that is purely a guess
#906 [09:10] <grand> :/
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#913 [09:28] <T4mis> hi
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#915 [09:29] <mbentley> hi
#916 [09:29] <T4mis> Do we have any custom servers updated to the last patch ?
#917 [09:30] <T4mis> the official server is just too limited
#918 [09:30] <fogwraith> Bukkit or any other mod, sure, works
#919 [09:30] <mbentley> i'm not sure. i don't really keep up on mods
#920 [09:30] <fogwraith> There are two that are written in C++ that are "up to date", but haven't got everything in them yet
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#922 [09:31] <T4mis> i heard bukkit was far from functionnal ! did i listen to the wrong people ?
#923 [09:31] <fogwraith> Probably, it updates faster than plugin devs can keep up though
#924 [09:32] <Slayerduck> I read that there were still to many bugs in bukkit
#925 [09:32] <fogwraith> I read that Notch is writing this game, Minecraft, but it's riddled with bugs
#926 [09:33] <Slayerduck> nah, it was really bad like you cant eat food or place liquids and such
#927 [09:34] <fogwraith> Works on my server though
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#929 [09:35] <T4mis> fogwraith : are you satisfied with it ?
#930 [09:35] <fogwraith> As far as it works with the plugins that are up to date, sure
#931 [09:35] <T4mis> ok thx :)
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#934 [09:41] <Valium> I need a way to move the spawn point that WORKS.
#935 [09:41] <Valium> for SMP
#936 [09:48] <Slayerduck> Valium me to ;o
#937 [09:49] <Slayerduck> its a basic functionality that one must have
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#939 [09:50] <Valium> MCEdit failed
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#944 [10:16] <fogwraith> Harhar, actually never used TNT before, this is fun
#945 [10:18] <mbentley> TNT is a blast
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#947 [10:19] <fogwraith> Someone lava accidently water on the whole!
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#949 [10:29] <proajaxpro> hello
#950 [10:30] <proajaxpro> ?
#951 [10:30] <fogwraith> Yeeeeeeeeeeees?
#952 [10:30] <proajaxpro> i have a problem with my minecraft
#953 [10:31] <mbentley> what sort of problem?
#954 [10:31] <proajaxpro> when i want to connect to a server it says every time failed to verify username! so what must i do?
#955 [10:31] <mbentley> what is your minecraft username?
#956 [10:31] <proajaxpro> proajaxpro
#957 [10:32] <mbentley> is it just one server?
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#959 [10:32] <proajaxpro> no its every server i try
#960 [10:32] <mbentley> could you try to connect to home.mbentley.net:12345 ?
#961 [10:32] <mbentley> that is my test server
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#963 [10:33] <proajaxpro> i go to try it now
#964 [10:33] <proajaxpro> nope same error
#965 [10:33] <mbentley> hmm yeah, i see that...
#966 [10:34] <proajaxpro> so what can i do
#967 [10:34] <mbentley> looking to see what could be wrong...
#968 [10:34] <proajaxpro> ok
#969 [10:35] <mbentley> could you try once more?
#970 [10:35] <proajaxpro> your server
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#972 [10:35] <mbentley> yes
#973 [10:36] <proajaxpro> nope
#974 [10:36] <mbentley> hmm same..
#975 [10:36] <proajaxpro> can you see what error i get?
#976 [10:36] <mbentley> 2011-01-17 10:35:55 [INFO] Disconnecting proajaxpro [/213.46.49.237:4109]: Failed to verify username!
#977 [10:36] <proajaxpro> ok
#978 [10:37] <mbentley> doesn't make any sense...
#979 [10:38] <mbentley> !paid proajaxpro
#980 [10:38] <proajaxpro> before i bought the official game i downloaded an alpha version so can it that i didn't delete all?
#981 [10:38] <mbentley> could be
#982 [10:38] <mbentley> what os?
#983 [10:38] <proajaxpro> what do you mean?
#984 [10:38] <mbentley> what operating system are you running?
#985 [10:38] <proajaxpro> windows XP
#986 [10:38] <mbentley> ok, go to start > run
#987 [10:38] <mbentley> type in '%appdata%\.minecraft' (without the quotes) and hit enter
#988 [10:38] <proajaxpro> yes?
#989 [10:39] <mbentley> delete everything except any 'world*' directories that exist
#990 [10:39] <proajaxpro> yes?
#991 [10:39] <mbentley> so bin, resources, texturepacks, lastlogin, options.txt
#992 [10:40] <proajaxpro> yes i have them
#993 [10:40] <mbentley> delete those files and directories
#994 [10:40] <proajaxpro> yes
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#996 [10:41] <mbentley> now that you have those delete, start the client again
#997 [10:41] <Niker> tes test
#998 [10:41] <Niker> hello?
#999 [10:41] <mbentley> and try to connect to my server again
#1000 [10:41] <mbentley> hello
#1001 [10:41] <Niker> oi there
#1002 [10:41] <Niker> quick question
#1003 [10:41] <Niker> lets say im in a server
#1004 [10:41] <Niker> is there any way to get the player list?
#1005 [10:42] <mbentley> currently no
#1006 [10:42] <mbentley> unless you are an op
#1007 [10:42] <mbentley> that is in the works though
#1008 [10:42] <Niker> k, thanks
#1009 [10:42] <mbentley> damn, samem thing
#1010 [10:42] <proajaxpro> damn didn't help
#1011 [10:43] <mbentley> proajaxpro: go to start > run and type in 'notepad %windir%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts' (without the quotes)
#1012 [10:43] <proajaxpro> yes
#1013 [10:43] <mbentley> could you copy and paste the entire contents of the file at pastebin.com and let me know the URL?
#1014 [10:44] <proajaxpro> ok
#1015 [10:44] <proajaxpro> http://pastebin.com/zztNMFiA
#1016 [10:45] <mbentley> ah there is your problem
#1017 [10:45] <proajaxpro> noway what is it?
#1018 [10:45] <mbentley> get rid of the line that says '178.21.113.74 www.minecraft.net'
#1019 [10:45] <dopeghoti> so many asshat crackers, so little time
#1020 [10:45] <mbentley> then save the file
#1021 [10:45] <dopeghoti> another VPS vendor to email abuse on, too
#1022 [10:46] <ftw> What on earth are asshaat crackers?
#1023 [10:46] <proajaxpro> must i try it again
#1024 [10:46] <proajaxpro> ppl like my xD
#1025 [10:46] <mbentley> were you able to successfully save the file?
#1026 [10:46] <dopeghoti> Crunchy, salty, and good with split-pea souP?
#1027 [10:46] <proajaxpro> yep
#1028 [10:46] <mbentley> then yes, try again. make sure you close the minecraft client and reopen it
#1029 [10:46] <proajaxpro> its away
#1030 [10:46] <ftw> OK, now I want soup for lunch today.
#1031 [10:47] <proajaxpro> o god i tried thing since friday and now it so little thing
#1032 [10:47] <mbentley> proajaxpro: still not working?
#1033 [10:47] <mbentley> ah
#1034 [10:47] <mbentley> there you go
#1035 [10:47] <mbentley> fixed
#1036 [10:48] <mbentley> another person gone legit haha
#1037 [10:48] <proajaxpro> thx for the nice help
#1038 [10:48] <mbentley> no problem
#1039 [10:48] <mbentley> thanks for buying the game :D
#1040 [10:48] <proajaxpro> yep
#1041 [10:48] <proajaxpro> this server going to my favo server list
#1042 [10:49] <mbentley> i don't always keep that server running
#1043 [10:49] <proajaxpro> ok
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#1046 [10:49] <mbentley> i just use it for testing :)
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#1048 [10:50] <fogwraith> Damn creepers, think they're smrt! *flips out bow*
#1049 [10:50] <mbentley> kill them with fire!
#1050 [10:53] <fogwraith> I think they got slightly pissed off ;/
#1051 [10:53] <fogwraith> Blew up my bridge and sent everything in my inventory flying into the ocean below
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#1053 [10:55] <Sungod> Wow
#1054 [10:55] <Sungod> I was right.
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#1056 [10:55] <Sungod> xD
#1057 [10:55] <Sungod> Hi Odenn
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#1065 [11:09] <Oranges> is anyone willing to walk me through the steps of setting up my server? i have the file and it has the two clients in it the banned ips, banned players, ops, server, and server properties file
#1066 [11:10] <Oranges> but when i run it it wont let people join
#1067 [11:10] <Oranges> or i dont know what ip to tell people
#1068 [11:11] <Oranges> anyone there?
#1069 [11:12] <Kealper> Oranges: what ip are you telling them to join?
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#1073 [11:22] <Oranges> my computer ip
#1074 [11:22] <Oranges> 10.0.0.3
#1075 [11:22] <KillSpammer> Oranges...
#1076 [11:22] <KillSpammer> Type !check
#1077 [11:23] <Oranges> !check
#1078 [11:23] <KillSpammer> Meh ok
#1079 [11:23] <KillSpammer> whatsmyip.org
#1080 [11:23] <Oranges> 71.113.175.187
#1081 [11:23] <KillSpammer> Tell me the ip you get
#1082 [11:23] <KillSpammer> !check 71.113.175.187
#1083 [11:23] <Oranges> thats what i got
#1084 [11:24] <KillSpammer> I didnt get to see your question
#1085 [11:24] <KillSpammer> What did you ask?
#1086 [11:24] <Oranges> i wanted to know if someone could help me get my server running.
#1087 [11:24] <Oranges> it just wont work
#1088 [11:24] <KillSpammer> Oh ok
#1089 [11:24] <KillSpammer> So
#1090 [11:25] <KillSpammer> Have you port fowarded
#1091 [11:25] <KillSpammer> Btw 71.113.175.187 will be your server ip
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#1093 [11:25] <Oranges> yes
#1094 [11:25] <Oranges> ok
#1095 [11:25] <Oranges> which port?
#1096 [11:25] <Oranges> just to check
#1097 [11:25] <KillSpammer> If your hosting it from your current computer
#1098 [11:25] <KillSpammer> 25565
#1099 [11:25] <Oranges> ok
#1100 [11:25] <Oranges> thats what im doing
#1101 [11:25] <KillSpammer> pastebin.com
#1102 [11:25] <KillSpammer> Whats your server.properties have in it
#1103 [11:25] <Oranges> leme chek
#1104 [11:26] <Oranges> its just cald server
#1105 [11:26] <Oranges> #Minecraft server properties
#1106 [11:26] <Oranges> #Sat Jan 15 21:39:36 CST 2011
#1107 [11:26] <Oranges> level-name=world 1
#1108 [11:26] <Oranges> hellworld=false
#1109 [11:26] <Oranges> spawn-monsters=true
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#1111 [11:26] <Oranges> online-mode=true
#1112 [11:26] <Oranges> spawn-animals=true
#1113 [11:26] <Oranges> max-players=20
#1114 [11:26] <Oranges> server-ip=
#1115 [11:26] <Oranges> pvp=true
#1116 [11:26] <Oranges> server-port=25565
#1117 [11:26] <mbentley> not here
#1118 [11:26] <Oranges> thats what is in it
#1119 [11:26] <KillSpammer> Ouch...
#1120 [11:26] <mbentley> pastebin.com
#1121 [11:26] <KillSpammer> I gave you pastebin...
#1122 [11:27] <mbentley> anyway, looks fine
#1123 [11:27] <Oranges> then why isnt it working?
#1124 [11:27] <questn> Does anyone know how to stop colors from bleeding/leaking through blocks? Image for reference: http://i.imgur.com/3PGZv.png
#1125 [11:27] <mbentley> can you connect?
#1126 [11:27] <KillSpammer> ARe you roughing it?
#1127 [11:27] <Oranges> yes
#1128 [11:27] <Oranges> when i do localhost
#1129 [11:27] <Oranges> i connect
#1130 [11:27] <KillSpammer> running*
#1131 [11:27] <mbentley> then it is running fine
#1132 [11:27] <Oranges> but other people cant
#1133 [11:27] <mbentley> are you certain you set up port forwarding correctly?
#1134 [11:28] <Oranges> i believe so
#1135 [11:28] <mbentley> do you have a firewall on your pc?
#1136 [11:28] <Oranges> yes i do
#1137 [11:28] <KillSpammer> Questn: Thats a java error :)
#1138 [11:28] <KillSpammer> Proberly
#1139 [11:28] <KillSpammer> Its the smallest of gliches
#1140 [11:28] <KillSpammer> I dont know why you would worry
#1141 [11:28] <mbentley> did you open the port in the firewall?
#1142 [11:28] <Oranges> no
#1143 [11:28] <KillSpammer> I knew i was forgetting something
#1144 [11:28] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1145 [11:28] <Oranges> i went to the roughter to do it
#1146 [11:28] <Oranges> how do i got through the fire wall and do it?
#1147 [11:28] <mbentley> ok, you should have the port forwarded on your router
#1148 [11:28] <KillSpammer> Oranges, the router and the firewall are different things
#1149 [11:29] <Oranges> ok
#1150 [11:29] <Oranges> its forwarded on the roughter
#1151 [11:29] <questn> thanks, killspammer.
#1152 [11:29] <KillSpammer> What firewall do you use?
#1153 [11:29] <mbentley> but if you are running windows, you need to add an exception in the firewall
#1154 [11:29] <Oranges> not the fire wall
#1155 [11:29] <Oranges> its windos firewall
#1156 [11:29] <Oranges> ok
#1157 [11:29] <KillSpammer> its router i was tired before :)
#1158 [11:29] <Oranges> how would i go about doing that
#1159 [11:29] <mbentley> what version of windows?
#1160 [11:29] <Oranges> 7
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#1163 [11:29] <KillSpammer> meh not on my windows 7 computer
#1164 [11:29] <mbentley> http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/542-windows-firewall-add-remove-exception.html
#1165 [11:29] <Con> :D
#1166 [11:29] <KillSpammer> There you are
#1167 [11:30] <KillSpammer> Someone slap me
#1168 [11:30] <KillSpammer> Oranges: Advice: Get a real firewall :)
#1169 [11:30] <mbentley> facepalm
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#1171 [11:31] <KillSpammer> But where do you facepalm?
#1172 [11:31] <KillSpammer> No where
#1173 [11:31] <KillSpammer> Thus meaning you facepalm your self!
#1174 [11:31] <mbentley> what do you think is a good firewall then KillSpammer?
#1175 [11:31] <KillSpammer> Most of windows stuff is crap :)
#1176 [11:32] <mbentley> not relaly
#1177 [11:32] <mbentley> *really
#1178 [11:32] <KillSpammer> The os and stuff are good
#1179 [11:32] <KillSpammer> Just slap me...
#1180 [11:32] <i81u812> Id say less then 1% function like it should on win
#1181 [11:32] <i81u812> but thats true of any version
#1182 [11:33] <mbentley> guess i should have checked those instructions i gave you...
#1183 [11:33] * mbentley is reading through them
#1183 [11:34] * KillSpammer is updating killspammer.net
#1183 [11:34] <mbentley> sorry Oranges, that is a horrible guide i gaveyou
#1184 [11:35] <mbentley> Oranges: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-open-a-port-in-the-windows-7-firewall.html
#1185 [11:35] <KillSpammer> Slap him1!!
#1186 [11:35] <KillSpammer> Good work mbentley
#1187 [11:35] <KillSpammer> You have proven yourself smarter than me!
#1188 [11:35] <KillSpammer> Like most other people who stay here :(
#1189 [11:36] <mbentley> Oranges: just make sure you create an inbound rule for port 25565 (tcp)
#1190 [11:37] <Oranges> ok im back
#1191 [11:37] <KillSpammer> Omg i talked to jeb again lol
#1192 [11:37] <Oranges> i did the thing on the website
#1193 [11:37] <KillSpammer> I know his secret irc :)
#1194 [11:37] <KillSpammer> Did it work?
#1195 [11:37] <Oranges> yea
#1196 [11:37] <Oranges> try joining?
#1197 [11:37] <KillSpammer> !check 71.113.175.187
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#1199 [11:37] <KillSpammer> !check 71.113.175.187
#1200 [11:38] <KillSpammer> Nope
#1201 [11:38] <Oranges> !check
#1202 [11:38] <Oranges> dang
#1203 [11:38] <mbentley> Oranges: did you see my message about http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-open-a-port-in-the-windows-7-firewall.html ?
#1204 [11:38] <Oranges> no i did not
#1205 [11:38] <mbentley> that first guide i gave wasn't as good as i thought...
#1206 [11:38] <mbentley> must easier to just allow traffic on port 25565
#1207 [11:38] <Oranges> !check
#1208 [11:39] <Oranges> ok brb going to try that one
#1209 [11:39] <mbentley> Oranges: just make sure you create an inbound rule for port 25565 (tcp)
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#1211 [11:41] <Con> Hmm
#1212 [11:41] <KillSpammer> I do not know how people have such trouble with these things
#1213 [11:42] <mbentley> Con: apparently chanserv can't make up it's mind about you :)
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#1215 [11:42] <Con> :|
#1216 [11:43] <Diablothein> Atta cs!
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#1218 [11:43] <away54> hello
#1219 [11:43] <Diablothein> Hello Jeff
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#1221 [11:44] <away54> can i play the game when i buy with pay pal , but no money is in my paypal acc?
#1222 [11:45] <thereddeh> how can u buy it with no money :>
#1223 [11:45] <Diablothein> ^
#1224 [11:45] <away54> with "lastschrift" dont know this word in english
#1225 [11:46] <Diablothein> last font? o.o
#1226 [11:46] <thereddeh> if that means paypal will be ur creditor then yes
#1227 [11:46] <KillSpammer> I setting up a file uploading system
#1228 [11:46] <KillSpammer> For my website
#1229 [11:46] <KillSpammer> Well images :)
#1230 [11:46] <KillSpammer> Iĺl just delete them all after one day
#1231 [11:46] <away54> thereddeh okay , thx
#1232 [11:47] <away54> bye
#1233 [11:48] <Oranges> !check
#1234 [11:48] <Oranges> ...
#1235 [11:48] <mbentley> also, are you sure that you entered the correct local ip address when you set up port forwarding on your router?
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#1237 [11:50] <Oranges> yes
#1238 [11:50] <Oranges> i went to cmd
#1239 [11:50] <Oranges> then ipconfig
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#1241 [11:50] <Oranges> amd it was 10.0.0.3
#1242 [11:50] <Oranges> thats what i am forwarding
#1243 [11:51] <JMP-TOK> afternoon.. just trying to clear something up. with the new beta release and the whole change of eula with regards to future updates, is there maybe some kind of forum post or something which clarifies the statement a little?
#1244 [11:51] <Oranges> !check
#1245 [11:52] <mbentley> do you have another pc on your network that you could test from?
#1246 [11:52] <mbentley> would be good to make sure you can connect from another system on your LAN
#1247 [11:52] <mbentley> (using the local IP of the minecraft server)
#1248 [11:52] <Oranges> yes
#1249 [11:52] <mbentley> that would help determine where the problem is exactly
#1250 [11:52] <Oranges> so i would use my computer ip?
#1251 [11:53] <mbentley> right, so you would connect to 10.0.0.3 since that is the server's ip
#1252 [11:53] <Oranges> ok
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#1254 [11:53] <Oranges> is it ok that im on a pc and the other computer is a mac?
#1255 [11:53] <mbentley> shouldn't make a difference as long as you can run the client
#1256 [11:53] <Oranges> ok
#1257 [11:53] <Oranges> brb getting the mac
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#1259 [11:55] <zelda> hey is anyone out there
#1260 [11:55] <mbentley> yeah
#1261 [11:55] <Con> no
#1262 [11:55] <zelda> lol
#1263 [11:55] * JMP-TOK kicks some tumbleweed
#1263 [11:56] <zelda> i'm a server hosting n00b and need some help
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#1265 [11:56] <zelda> getting an exception whenever i try and connect locally to my hosted server
#1266 [11:56] <zelda> internal exception: java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 15
#1267 [11:56] <mbentley> !recent
#1268 [11:56] <zelda> where 15 is some random #
#1269 [11:56] <mbentley> update the server
#1270 [11:57] <zelda> is there a new server.exe?
#1271 [11:57] <JMP-TOK> handy script
#1272 [11:57] <mbentley> i am pretty sure that is what i said
#1273 [11:57] <mbentley> :)
#1274 [11:57] <JMP-TOK> heh
#1275 [11:57] <zelda> :P is there an update command
#1276 [11:58] <mbentley> no
#1277 [11:58] <mbentley> you have to stop the server, download the new one, replace the server exe and start it back up
#1278 [11:58] <zelda> alright thanks, i'll give this a shot
#1279 [11:58] <mbentley> !server
#1280 [11:59] <JMP-TOK> bently man, could you explain to me what the new eula means when it says future releases wont be free, is it basically saying that if notch does an RC1 for eg, that ill have to pay for it, but if he releases a final then i get that free ?
#1281 [12:00] <mbentley> sure
#1282 [12:00] <mbentley> you will get all updates/expansion packs during the beta phase as well as the final release to public
#1283 [12:00] <JMP-TOK> had a good scan on the forum but couldn't see anything, an search wouldn't work for me.. i did try and have a look meself :)
#1284 [12:00] <JMP-TOK> right ok....
#1285 [12:01] <mbentley> you will also get any patches to minecraft
#1286 [12:01] <JMP-TOK> so, im just trying to work out what I WONT get
#1287 [12:01] <mbentley> but if notch releases expansion packs, they will not be free
#1288 [12:01] <JMP-TOK> what the 'catch' is so to speak
#1289 [12:01] <JMP-TOK> ahhhh
#1290 [12:01] <JMP-TOK> riiight right
#1291 [12:01] <JMP-TOK> making more sense now
#1292 [12:01] <mbentley> so far, there haven't been expansion packs
#1293 [12:01] <JMP-TOK> yar
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#1295 [12:01] <JMP-TOK> but in case he does one...
#1296 [12:01] <JMP-TOK> he's covering his arse
#1297 [12:01] <mbentley> yup
#1298 [12:01] <JMP-TOK> :D
#1299 [12:01] <Diablothein> But hey, you'd be supporting the developer now so he'd be more motivated to finish it, and it's not expansions, it's phases
#1300 [12:01] <Oranges> ok im back
#1301 [12:01] <mbentley> basically
#1302 [12:01] <JMP-TOK> i seeee!
#1303 [12:01] <JMP-TOK> wicked, thanks for clearing that up bently
#1304 [12:02] <JMP-TOK> bentley*
#1305 [12:02] <JMP-TOK> much appreciated mate
#1306 [12:02] <mbentley> np
#1307 [12:02] <Oranges> mbently: i was able to connect to my server on my other computer
#1308 [12:02] <Oranges> !check
#1309 [12:02] <mbentley> ok then something with the port forwarding isn't working correctly...
#1310 [12:02] <Oranges> ok
#1311 [12:03] <Oranges> im useing a netgear roughter
#1312 [12:03] <Oranges> and it wouldnt let me forward a port for warcraft III
#1313 [12:03] <mbentley> Oranges: can you open a command prompt?
#1314 [12:03] <Oranges> yes
#1315 [12:03] <Oranges> cmd?
#1316 [12:03] <mbentley> yeah
#1317 [12:03] <Oranges> yep its open
#1318 [12:03] <mbentley> tracert google.com
#1319 [12:03] <mbentley> let it do that and then paste the results @ pastebin.com and give us the link
#1320 [12:04] <mbentley> i have a feeling that you may have two routers (double nat)
#1321 [12:04] <Oranges> where do i paste it on pate nim
#1322 [12:04] <zelda> meh im still not doing something right
#1323 [12:04] <KillSpammer> Wut
#1324 [12:04] <KillSpammer> Whats up zelda ?
#1325 [12:04] <mbentley> go to pastebin.com
#1326 [12:04] <Oranges> bin*
#1327 [12:05] <zelda> im connecting fine but continually getting rejected to the login
#1328 [12:05] <Oranges> ok
#1329 [12:05] <Oranges> im there
#1330 [12:05] <mbentley> paste it in the big box. hit submit
#1331 [12:05] <Oranges> ok
#1332 [12:05] <mbentley> then copy and paste the url of the next page in here
#1333 [12:05] <Oranges> how to i coppie the thing in the command prompt?
#1334 [12:05] <Oranges> it wont hilight
#1335 [12:05] <mbentley> right click, 'mark'
#1336 [12:05] <zelda> apparently i'm taking too long to respond when connecting to my server
#1337 [12:05] <mbentley> then highlight
#1338 [12:06] <zelda> is that a firewall issue?
#1339 [12:06] <mbentley> then once you have it highlighted, right click
#1340 [12:06] <mbentley> then it will be copied to the clipboard
#1341 [12:06] <KillSpammer> It could be
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#1343 [12:06] <KillSpammer> But proberly not
#1344 [12:06] <mbentley> zelda: how are you trying to connect to your server? are you running the server and client on the same pc?
#1345 [12:06] <KillSpammer> Are you sure you have decent intertnet?
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#1347 [12:06] <KillSpammer> I think he/she is trying to connect too a server
#1348 [12:07] <zelda> i have a linksys router, port forwarding to my pc for ports 25565 to 25566
#1349 [12:07] <zelda> maybe the range i have set isn't right
#1350 [12:07] <Diablothein> there's your problem, linksys router.
#1351 [12:07] <KillSpammer> Ahh edh649.
#1352 [12:07] <mbentley> zelda: you are trying to connect to your own server, right?
#1353 [12:07] <edh649> yeah
#1354 [12:07] <zelda> yep
#1355 [12:07] <KillSpammer> I heard you had a problem in?
#1356 [12:07] <edh649> yeah
#1357 [12:07] <KillSpammer> The other irc
#1358 [12:07] <edh649> lol
#1359 [12:07] <KillSpammer> DOnt ask there
#1360 [12:07] <KillSpammer> :)
#1361 [12:07] <KillSpammer> Its a dead chat
#1362 [12:07] <edh649> i realised
#1363 [12:07] <edh649> after my leaving
#1364 [12:07] <edh649> lol
#1365 [12:07] <SkiingPenguins> Diablothein i have a linksys router and it works fine
#1366 [12:07] <mbentley> 12:06 <+mbentley> zelda: how are you trying to connect to your server? are you running the server and client on the same pc?
#1367 [12:07] <edh649> umm yeah, so bisaclly
#1368 [12:07] <KillSpammer> I got an op to change the topic
#1369 [12:07] <Diablothein> zelda, connect via 127.0.0.1
#1370 [12:08] <zelda> server and client on same pc
#1371 [12:08] <zelda> is that my problem?
#1372 [12:08] <mbentley> do as Diablothein suggested
#1373 [12:08] <edh649> when i try to change the volume of sound/music it crashes
#1374 [12:08] <mbentley> you must connect using localhost or 127.0.0.1
#1375 [12:08] <KillSpammer> And mods?
#1376 [12:08] <zelda> ok i'll try
#1377 [12:08] <edh649> i used to
#1378 [12:08] <Oranges> ok bently
#1379 [12:08] <edh649> but then i deleted all the stuff in the bin folder
#1380 [12:08] <Oranges> heres the url
#1381 [12:08] <KillSpammer> So youve tried reinstalling minecraft
#1382 [12:08] <Oranges> http://pastebin.com/yUmALLJD
#1383 [12:08] <Diablothein> mb, 197.0.0.1 IS localhost
#1384 [12:08] <KillSpammer> Oh ok
#1385 [12:08] <KillSpammer> goto pastebin.com
#1386 [12:08] <edh649> pretty much - deleted all the resources
#1387 [12:08] <KillSpammer> And post me the error log
#1388 [12:08] <mbentley> yup, exactly what i thought...
#1389 [12:08] <edh649> k
#1390 [12:08] <zelda> oh, weird.
#1391 [12:08] <mbentley> double nat
#1392 [12:08] <zelda> i got in
#1393 [12:08] <Oranges> so
#1394 [12:09] <Oranges> how do i fix it?
#1395 [12:09] <zelda> thought my default was 192.168.1.1
#1396 [12:09] <SkiingPenguins> thats the router's ip
#1397 [12:09] <KillSpammer> You have to foward on both?
#1398 [12:09] <mbentley> Oranges: try to enter http://192.168.1.1 into your web browser
#1399 [12:09] <Diablothein> <.<
#1400 [12:09] <mbentley> see if it takes you to another router's interface
#1401 [12:09] <Diablothein> 127 not 197 >.<
#1402 [12:09] <mbentley> you have two routers in your network
#1403 [12:09] <mbentley> so it is like this
#1404 [12:09] <edh649> http://pastebin.com/666d678P
#1405 [12:09] <edh649> thats from the desktop error log
#1406 [12:09] <Oranges> ok it worked
#1407 [12:10] <zelda> so 127.0.0.1 is linksys's default local IP?
#1408 [12:10] <Oranges> im at a verison place
#1409 [12:10] <mbentley> internet <=> router1 (192.168.1.1) <=> router2 (10.0.0.1) <=> your LAN
#1410 [12:10] <KillSpammer> Thats a java error
#1411 [12:10] <zelda> even though the router's IP is 168.192.1.1?
#1412 [12:10] <edh649> k
#1413 [12:10] <zelda> i think i need some IP 101 :S
#1414 [12:10] <edh649> so reinstall java?
#1415 [12:10] <KillSpammer> Reproduse the bug and give me the error you get from minecraft
#1416 [12:10] <KillSpammer> Well
#1417 [12:10] <KillSpammer> You can try that
#1418 [12:10] <mbentley> Oranges: look for a port forwarding option in that 2nd router's page
#1419 [12:10] <zelda> anyways seems to be working,thanks for the help everyone!
#1420 [12:10] <Oranges> ok
#1421 [12:10] <KillSpammer> But if it still doesnt fix it iĺl hav a look at the minecraft error log
#1422 [12:10] <KillSpammer> Ok brb
#1423 [12:10] <edh649> it just quits
#1424 [12:11] <edh649> before it gave a log but not any more
#1425 [12:11] <mbentley> let me know if you find it Oranges
#1426 [12:12] <Oranges> i dont see it
#1427 [12:12] <KillSpammer> Oh edh649 its java crashing then
#1428 [12:12] <KillSpammer> Reinstall java :)
#1429 [12:12] <KillSpammer> That should fix
#1430 [12:12] <Oranges> and i need a usr and a pass word
#1431 [12:12] <mbentley> hmm, does it give you a model name or anything of the router?
#1432 [12:12] <edh649> kl thanks
#1433 [12:12] <KillSpammer> try User: Admin
#1434 [12:12] <edh649> ill come back if that didnt fix it
#1435 [12:12] <Oranges> i did
#1436 [12:12] <KillSpammer> Pass: nothing
#1437 [12:12] <Oranges> ok
#1438 [12:12] <Oranges> got it
#1439 [12:12] <KillSpammer> If that doesnt work theres a password for the router :S
#1440 [12:13] <KillSpammer> K :)
#1441 [12:13] <mbentley> you might also try 'admin' and 'password'
#1442 [12:13] <mbentley> might be easier if you knew the model of the router verizon supplied
#1443 [12:14] <JMP-TOK> true
#1444 [12:14] <JMP-TOK> most had default setups
#1445 [12:14] <JMP-TOK> just trying to think what the last one i did was :S something stupid yet obvious
#1446 [12:14] <JMP-TOK> have*
#1447 [12:14] <JMP-TOK> admin / admin is always anothe
#1448 [12:14] <JMP-TOK> +r
#1449 [12:15] <SkiingPenguins> -> http://www.routerpasswords.com/
#1450 [12:16] <Oranges> ok cant find portforwerding
#1451 [12:16] <mbentley> you were able to get in?
#1452 [12:16] <Oranges> yes
#1453 [12:16] <SkiingPenguins> what router is it?
#1454 [12:16] <Oranges> i am in
#1455 [12:16] <Oranges> its a verison
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#1457 [12:16] <mbentley> if you can find out a model it will ehlp
#1458 [12:16] <JMP-TOK> SkiingPenguins, handy little link, n1 mate
#1459 [12:16] <Oranges> ok ill see if i can find it
#1460 [12:16] <mbentley> sorry, i am about to go to lunch but these guys can help :)
#1461 [12:16] <Oranges> ok
#1462 [12:17] <Oranges> ty for all your help
#1463 [12:17] <mbentley> if you do find it, you will need to forward port 25565 (tcp) to 10.0.0.1
#1464 [12:17] <Oranges> ok
#1465 [12:17] <Oranges> ty
#1466 [12:17] <Oranges> wait
#1467 [12:17] <Oranges> dynamic ?
#1468 [12:17] <Oranges> is it roughting?
#1469 [12:17] <mbentley> should stay static
#1470 [12:17] <Oranges> ok
#1471 [12:17] <Oranges> static roughting?
#1472 [12:17] <SkiingPenguins> you may want to do a static ip so that your local ip doesnt change and thus your portforwarding stops working
#1473 [12:18] <Oranges> ok
#1474 [12:18] <Oranges> ty
#1475 [12:18] <mbentley> Oranges: for the verizon router, it will not make a difference
#1476 [12:18] <JMP-TOK> shame it doesn't list BT routers
#1477 [12:18] <edh649> k, reset java - gonna try minecraft now
#1478 [12:18] <mbentley> double nat = annoying as hell
#1479 [12:18] <Oranges> yea
#1480 [12:18] <Oranges> lol
#1481 [12:18] <SkiingPenguins> o.o that sounds confusing
#1482 [12:19] <edh649> oh wait, it hasn't reinstalled, lol
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#1485 [12:20] <CliffDark> hello
#1486 [12:20] <CliffDark> im in need of some help
#1487 [12:21] <SkiingPenguins> ask away
#1488 [12:21] <CliffDark> i bought agift code but did not recieve the code
#1489 [12:21] <CliffDark> but the money has been removed from my account
#1490 [12:21] <SkiingPenguins> how long has it been since you bought it?
#1491 [12:22] <CliffDark> 15-20 mins ago maybe
#1492 [12:22] <edh649> F***, sound still isnt working
#1493 [12:22] <CliffDark> how can i get the code?
#1494 [12:22] <GLaDOS> http://www.minecraft.net/skin/
#1495 [12:22] <GLaDOS> is it in there?
#1496 [12:23] <CliffDark> nope
#1497 [12:24] <CliffDark> nothing to my email either
#1498 [12:27] <CliffDark> can you make the account to a bought account that im going to give the gift code to
#1499 [12:27] <CliffDark> ?
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#1501 [12:28] <Camelia> Beautiful Videos and Pictures http://relaxare-profunda.blogspot.com/
#1502 [12:29] <KillSpammer> Advertise :)
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#1505 [12:31] <edh649> yeah KillSpammer, its still failing
#1506 [12:32] <CliffDark> WTB some help please ^^ :P
#1507 [12:32] <edh649> Yeah CliffDark, ive got no idea
#1508 [12:33] <edh649> id say just wait.... and wait.... and wait....
#1509 [12:33] <edh649> yeah, lol
#1510 [12:33] <CliffDark> ^^
#1511 [12:33] <CliffDark> where did glados go?
#1512 [12:33] <edh649> if it gets over 48 hours then email mojang support
#1513 [12:33] <GLaDOS> CliffDark: we can't
#1514 [12:34] <CliffDark> oh ok :7
#1515 [12:34] <KillSpammer> Naww...
#1516 [12:34] <KillSpammer> Now i advertise
#1517 [12:34] <KillSpammer> KillSpammer.net!
#1518 [12:34] <KillSpammer> Oopse
#1519 [12:34] <GLaDOS> if we did, then our asses would be fried and put in caesar salad
#1520 [12:34] <KillSpammer> http://killspammer.net
#1521 [12:34] * GLaDOS kicked KillSpammer from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: advertising)
#1522 [12:34] <edh649> lol
#1523 [12:34] <edh649> i hate it when things break.
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#1525 [12:35] <KillSpammer> :(
#1526 [12:35] <edh649> lol
#1527 [12:35] <KillSpammer> Anyway
#1528 [12:35] <KillSpammer> CliffDark
#1529 [12:35] <KillSpammer> Did you use paypal?
#1530 [12:35] <edh649> yeah killspammer, reinstall didnt work :'(
#1531 [12:35] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#1532 [12:35] <KillSpammer> i dont know then
#1533 [12:35] <KillSpammer> Its a java error
#1534 [12:36] <KillSpammer> Its saying that some java .dlls are corrupt
#1535 [12:36] <KillSpammer> I think...
#1536 [12:36] <KillSpammer> Im a noob :(
#1537 [12:36] <edh649> damn
#1538 [12:36] <KillSpammer> Back to bleach
#1539 [12:36] <edh649> lol, k
#1540 [12:36] <edh649> well then, cya guys
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#1542 [12:47] <SkiingPenguins> how am i supposed to build a portal in the nether without a diamond pickaxe?
#1543 [12:48] <Xkrytr> when you form the lava in the right way bevor you use water on it
#1544 [12:49] <SkiingPenguins> but water evaporates in the nether almost instantly
#1545 [12:49] <Con> Water can't be used in the nether
#1546 [12:49] <SkiingPenguins> i guess i need to find diamonds then
#1547 [12:49] <Con> If you're missing your portal and have no means to make one, only way out is death
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#1550 [12:53] <mib_pr0z8f> Hey
#1551 [12:54] <SkiingPenguins> hello
#1552 [12:55] <SkiingPenguins> bye
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#1571 [13:29] <Desereck> Hello, I'm having a problem setting up a server on my computer. Anyone familiar with port forwarding and setting up a static IP?
#1572 [13:29] <AG_Elias> Desereck, a static IP has to be provided by your ISP, otherwise you will need to use a dynamic IP service.
#1573 [13:29] <AG_Elias> As for port forwarding, there are several websites that could help you in that regard.
#1574 [13:30] <Desereck> I tried going through my ISP. I spent five hours on the phone with them because they didn't know what they were doing.
#1575 [13:30] <AG_Elias> Desereck, most ISPs will not give you a static IP unless you purchase one.
#1576 [13:31] <Desereck> That's nice to know after I've been dishing out $30 a month for 150kb/s.
#1577 [13:31] <username17> You don't really need a static. I've been running a server for 3-4 months with no ip change
#1578 [13:32] <Desereck> username, how am I supposed to open my ports with no IP to forward them through?
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#1580 [13:33] <Wahrheit> Is there an hmod plugin that automatically deposits items when they hit chests? Not asking for support on it, just wondering if anyone knows of it.
#1581 [13:33] <username17> You don't hard code the public ip, you hard code the ip of the server. The 192.168.x.x IP
#1582 [13:33] <Desereck> How would I do that?
#1583 [13:34] <username17> In ur router confirm you put in the ip of the computer that is running mc and u put in the port range for mc
#1584 [13:34] <username17> Configuration*
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#1586 [13:35] <Desereck> I have my computer's IP in my router, port 25565 is "forwarded"
#1587 [13:35] <Desereck> But my external IP is completely different.
#1588 [13:35] <username17> K Zhou
#1589 [13:35] <mbentley> as it should be
#1590 [13:35] <username17> Err
#1591 [13:36] <username17> The IP u give to friends is the public one. You can find out what it is by going to whatismyip.com
#1592 [13:36] <Desereck> I've tried, but the connection either times out or they get a refused.
#1593 [13:36] <username17> When someone tries to connect to that ip, your router will take the connection on 25565 and redirect it to your minecraft server
#1594 [13:37] <DrVenture> do I have to link redstone to the pressure plate (wooden) or can I have a redstone torch below it that is connected to the wiring?
#1595 [13:37] <username17> Check your server.prop file. Male sure the ip address is blank and the port is incorrect
#1596 [13:37] <username17> Sorry, on my phone. Lotta typos
#1597 [13:38] <Desereck> Okay
#1598 [13:39] <Desereck> But when I go to a website like recommended in the wiki to check if the port is open, it says closed.
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#1600 [13:39] <mbentley> !check 97.124.134.230
#1601 [13:39] <AG_Elias> Desereck, make sure you setup your router to forward port 25565 to your computer.
#1602 [13:39] <username17> Check server.prop 1st, is it good?
#1603 [13:39] <Desereck> Yes.
#1604 [13:40] <AG_Elias> Desereck, try http://portforward.com/
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#1606 [13:40] <Desereck> I did. Several times.
#1607 [13:40] <Desereck> Over the past three years.
#1608 [13:40] <username17> Then it's something w portforwarding. And tbh I've lost the patience to help with portforwarding issues
#1609 [13:40] <AG_Elias> Desereck, what is the manufactor of your router?
#1610 [13:41] <Desereck> Linksys WRT54G2
#1611 [13:41] <AG_Elias> username17, then this is not the channel to idle in. =)
#1612 [13:41] <username17> I'm not idle, obviously
#1613 [13:41] <AG_Elias> Desereck, you are on wireless?
#1614 [13:41] <Desereck> No.
#1615 [13:42] <AG_Elias> k
#1616 [13:42] <username17> I'll help up to, but not including portforwarding.
#1617 [13:42] <ssen> !check your_pockets
#1618 [13:42] <mbentley> well it is highly suggested that people running servers have experience running services like this...
#1619 [13:42] <AG_Elias> Desereck, what is the manufactor of your modem?
#1620 [13:42] <Desereck> Actiontec GT701-WG
#1621 [13:42] <AG_Elias> Okay. This is going to sound weird, but we have the exact same router and modem.
#1622 [13:43] <Desereck> Haha
#1623 [13:43] <Desereck> Windows 7 64x?
#1624 [13:43] <AG_Elias> Yes.
#1625 [13:43] <Desereck> Nice.
#1626 [13:43] <AG_Elias> First off, I am going to tell you that the Linksys WRT54G2 is a bitch to configure, and will not play nicely with forwarding from your modem, which has its own built in router.
#1627 [13:44] <Desereck> I've noticed.
#1628 [13:44] <Desereck> Haha.
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#1630 [13:44] <AG_Elias> What you will need to do is plug directly into your modem, and setup port forwarding from there. If that is impossible, I would suggest using a service like Hamachi.
#1631 [13:45] <mbentley> yay double nat
#1632 [13:45] <Desereck> My modem rejects my direct connection.
#1633 [13:45] <Desereck> Without the router I'd be internet-less
#1634 [13:45] <Desereck> So Hamachi. How would I set up a server through a LAN connection like that?
#1635 [13:45] <AG_Elias> Desereck, hamachi that shit.
#1636 [13:46] <AG_Elias> Desereck, simple. Start hamachi, form network, all clients will need to connect through your hamachi network.
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#1638 [13:46] <Desereck> Roger.
#1639 [13:47] <AG_Elias> Oh, I forgot the ???, PROFIT!
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#1642 [13:47] <TicTac1337> hey..
#1643 [13:47] <TicTac1337> anyone?
#1644 [13:48] <mbentley> hey
#1645 [13:49] <AG_Elias> TicTac1337, yes?
#1646 [13:50] <TicTac1337> I got like a problem with the stand-alone client
#1647 [13:50] <AG_Elias> Okay. What seems to be the issue?
#1648 [13:50] <TicTac1337> I can log in, but when it's done loading it just closes
#1649 [13:50] <TicTac1337> and creates an error file.
#1650 [13:50] <AG_Elias> What operating system are you on? And can you pastebin the error file?
#1651 [13:51] <TicTac1337> all that info should be in the file to
#1652 [13:51] <TicTac1337> http://mibpaste.com/s6ZKJQ
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#1654 [13:54] <AG_Elias> TicTac1337, does it happen with the browser version too?
#1655 [13:54] <TicTac1337> No
#1656 [13:55] <TicTac1337> Although while i was still on IE each time i closed the browser version it also made an error file on my desktop
#1657 [13:55] <TicTac1337> but since i use Chrome not anymore
#1658 [13:58] <ssen> !check piratesandninjas.net
#1659 [13:58] <ssen> !check google.com
#1660 [13:59] <ssen> !check canyouseeme.org
#1661 [13:59] <Desereck> Elias, when I try and log into my server, my connection times out.
#1662 [13:59] <ssen> !check ninjasandpirates.net
#1663 [13:59] <ssen> Sweet.
#1664 [14:00] <Desereck> So I'm assuming if I can't even connect to my own server, no one else can either.
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#1667 [14:03] <Uni553> hmm you know everyone always has a fav block but i wonder
#1668 [14:03] <Uni553> what block does everyone hate the most
#1669 [14:03] <Uni553> for me probably gravel
#1670 [14:03] <Uni553> it doesnt have much use
#1671 [14:04] <Uni553> i used to use it for pathways outside until clay came around and thats better for concrete paths
#1672 [14:04] <SkiingPenguins> i dislike gravel aswell
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#1674 [14:04] <TicTac1337> meh i dunno i use alot of arrows so gravel is okay for me
#1675 [14:05] <TicTac1337> i hate it when im mining and suddenly piles of sand fall on me
#1676 [14:05] <Uni553> yeah thats the only thing you get but ive been thinking
#1677 [14:05] <Jared> anyone wana help me find out how to forward ports on a verison roughter
#1678 [14:05] <Uni553> how else it could be used in future items/crafting
#1679 [14:05] <Uni553> or somethin
#1680 [14:05] <TicTac1337> @jared what router do you exactly have?
#1681 [14:05] <Jared> its not really a roughter
#1682 [14:05] <Uni553> like since we now have sandstone.. maybe some kind of gravelstone?
#1683 [14:05] <Jared> its more of a moted?
#1684 [14:05] <TicTac1337> Modem?
#1685 [14:05] <Jared> motem*
#1686 [14:05] <Uni553> modem with built in router?
#1687 [14:06] <Uni553> what isp
#1688 [14:06] <TicTac1337> Whats the exact name & build and stuff
#1689 [14:06] <Jared> its a dubble nat system
#1690 [14:06] <Jared> thats what i know
#1691 [14:06] <Uni553> heh i use my own router i disabled the router functions on the one the isp gave me
#1692 [14:06] <Uni553> cuz well.. fuck that
#1693 [14:06] <TicTac1337> @Jared look for something like a version on the bottom or stuff
#1694 [14:06] <Uni553> if its an ambit/ubee if you wanna turn it off try entering admin/cableroot
#1695 [14:06] <Uni553> as the u/p
#1696 [14:06] <Uni553> itll give you more options
#1697 [14:06] <Jared> ok
#1698 [14:06] <Jared> wait
#1699 [14:07] <Jared> so i just need to know where to go
#1700 [14:07] <Uni553> but i'm on roadrunner
#1701 [14:07] <Jared> im in it
#1702 [14:07] <Jared> is it dynamic rouging?
#1703 [14:07] <Jared> or static roughting?
#1704 [14:07] <Uni553> and looking at your address in your whois you got dsl so that's dif
#1705 [14:07] <Uni553> might be similar though
#1706 [14:08] <Uni553> to get into the extra settings
#1707 [14:08] <Uni553> myself I use a WRT54g cisco/linksys
#1708 [14:08] <Jared> im in advanced setup
#1709 [14:08] <Uni553> so what are you trying to do exactly
#1710 [14:08] <Uni553> turn the router function off ?
#1711 [14:08] <Jared> forward ports
#1712 [14:08] <Jared> so people can join my server
#1713 [14:09] <rf``> blag, the server is not letting me change my nick so I can id
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#1715 [14:09] <Uni553> oh theres usually an option that says that
#1716 [14:09] <Jared> yea
#1717 [14:09] <Jared> but theres not...
#1718 [14:10] <Jared> so would it be roughting?
#1719 [14:10] <TicTac1337> Lol
#1720 [14:10] <SkiingPenguins> http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+forward+ports+on+verizon+router <- ?
#1721 [14:10] <Uni553> tbh though if you can i would just figure out how to disable the router function and use your own router instead
#1722 [14:10] <Uni553> alot of them are ass
#1723 [14:11] <Uni553> in those isp modems
#1724 [14:11] <Uni553> did it on mine
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#1726 [14:11] <Uni553> I also had to take it out of a box they put in my laundry room, they expected me to just use wifi
#1727 [14:11] <Uni553> when i moved in they gave everyone cable tv / internet
#1728 [14:11] <TicTac1337> great my minecraft crashed
#1729 [14:12] <Uni553> but yeah once they left i took the modem out of the box and split the line in my own bedroom and pluged the modem in here
#1730 [14:12] <Uni553> i always like to have at least 1 device on a hardline
#1731 [14:12] <Uni553> to the modem
#1732 [14:13] <Uni553> well that and the router function sucked and wouldn't let me change ... well anything
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#1735 [14:21] <SkiingPenguins> any tips on finding your portal in the nether? :/
#1736 [14:21] <TicTac1337> mark it as soon as u find it
#1737 [14:22] <SkiingPenguins> i getting out of here as soon as i find it
#1738 [14:22] <TicTac1337> the nether is not really that big so
#1739 [14:25] <Jared> ok guys
#1740 [14:25] <Jared> i got the egsact stuff on the bottm of the motem
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#1742 [14:26] <Jared> its a actiontec gt7o1c
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#1745 [14:28] <SkiingPenguins> http://www.google.com/search?q=actiontec+gt701c+port+forwarding
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#1748 [14:38] <Jared> cant find the forwarding place
#1749 [14:38] <dopeghoti> portforward.com?
#1750 [14:38] <Jared> i dont think there is one
#1751 [14:38] <Jared> is that posable?
#1752 [14:38] <Jared> not on there
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#1754 [14:39] <SkiingPenguins> http://www.qwest.com/internethelp/modems/gt701/pdf/13566_GT701_PortFwd_031906msl.pdf <- ?
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#1757 [14:44] <Turboweevel> making realistic water is hard
#1758 [14:44] <Turboweevel> animating it is even harder
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#1761 [14:56] <Jared> !check
#1762 [14:56] <Jared> ...
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#1764 [14:57] <Oranges> !check
#1765 [14:57] <Oranges> !check
#1766 [14:57] <mbentley> still having issues?
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#1769 [14:58] <mbentley> were you able to find the place to set up port forwarding on the verizon router?
#1770 [15:01] <Oranges> yea
#1771 [15:01] <Oranges> i think so
#1772 [15:01] <Oranges> and yea still issures
#1773 [15:01] <Oranges> issues*
#1774 [15:01] <Oranges> what would the port map start be?
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#1776 [15:03] <mbentley> on the verizon router, you should have port 25565 forwarded to 192.168.1.1
#1777 [15:03] <mbentley> err
#1778 [15:03] <mbentley> wait
#1779 [15:03] <fseuring> hi
#1780 [15:03] <mbentley> port 25565 forwarded to 10.0.0.1
#1781 [15:04] <mbentley> then on your other router, 25565 should be forwarded 10.0.0.3
#1782 [15:04] <mbentley> hello
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#1784 [15:04] <Limes> ok its me oranges
#1785 [15:04] <Limes> is the forwarding tcp or udp?
#1786 [15:04] <mbentley> tcp
#1787 [15:04] <Limes> ok
#1788 [15:05] <Limes> and the port start and end are the same?
#1789 [15:05] <Limes> 25565?
#1790 [15:05] <mbentley> yes
#1791 [15:05] <Limes> ok
#1792 [15:05] <Limes> and what is the port map start?
#1793 [15:05] <Limes> the same as that?
#1794 [15:05] <Limes> 2555?
#1795 [15:05] <Limes> 25565*
#1796 [15:05] <mbentley> should be
#1797 [15:05] <Limes> ok
#1798 [15:06] <Limes> and the name is minecraft>?
#1799 [15:06] <mbentley> you can call it whatever you want
#1800 [15:06] <Limes> ok
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#1802 [15:08] <fseuring> i need help as well
#1803 [15:08] <mbentley> ok, ask away
#1804 [15:08] <fseuring> i bought minecraft today, and when i try to connect to servers, it says took to long to log in/utf8 malformed input/timed out
#1805 [15:08] <mbentley> that would typically mean you are connecting to servers that have not been updated
#1806 [15:08] <mbentley> what is your minecraft username?
#1807 [15:08] <fseuring> fseuring
#1808 [15:09] <mbentley> ok, yeah, you just need to connect to a server that is updated.
#1809 [15:09] <fseuring> ok thank you
#1810 [15:09] <fseuring> i'll try now
#1811 [15:10] <Limes> !check
#1812 [15:10] <Limes> YES
#1813 [15:10] <Limes> FINALY
#1814 [15:10] <mbentley> yay
#1815 [15:10] <Limes> TYSM BENTLING
#1816 [15:10] <mbentley> no problem
#1817 [15:11] <mbentley> so Limes, just remember how you did that...
#1818 [15:11] <Limes> yea
#1819 [15:11] <Limes> i remember
#1820 [15:11] <mbentley> if you need to forward ports in the future, you will also have to forward it on the verizon router
#1821 [15:11] <Limes> i alsoforwarded ports for warcraft
#1822 [15:11] <mbentley> to the same ip
#1823 [15:11] <Limes> xD
#1824 [15:11] <mbentley> cool
#1825 [15:11] <Limes> tysm
#1826 [15:11] <mbentley> no problem
#1827 [15:11] <Limes> now my frends and i can play togeather
#1828 [15:11] <mbentley> :)
#1829 [15:11] <Limes> so. what ip do i tell them
#1830 [15:11] <Limes> xD
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#1832 [15:12] <Limes> whatismyip.com?
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#1834 [15:12] <mbentley> http://www.whatismyip.org
#1835 [15:12] <mbentley> yeah
#1836 [15:12] <Limes> that one?
#1837 [15:12] <Limes> lol
#1838 [15:12] <Limes> kk
#1839 [15:12] <Limes> ty
#1840 [15:13] <fseuring> !check
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#1842 [15:15] <Kealper> i should make that error use the resolved hostname
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#1844 [15:18] <mbentley> you mean the resolved ip/
#1845 [15:18] <mbentley> */=?
#1846 [15:18] <Kealper> yeah that
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#1848 [15:19] <Kealper> was typing one handed, thinking more about the cake i was eating, and not the words i was typing lol
#1849 [15:19] <Limes> !check
#1850 [15:19] <mbentley> mmm cake
#1851 [15:19] <fseuring> i don't find any server :(
#1852 [15:19] <fseuring> *servers
#1853 [15:19] <Limes> 71.113.175.187
#1854 [15:19] <Limes> try it
#1855 [15:19] <Limes> !check
#1856 [15:19] <Limes> its mine
#1857 [15:20] <fseuring> ty
#1858 [15:20] <Limes> byebye guys
#1859 [15:20] <fseuring> still took to long to log in :(
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#1861 [15:20] <Kealper> fseuring: the minecraft login server is currently messed up and being REALLY slow
#1862 [15:21] <fseuring> but why do i get 3 different errors?
#1863 [15:21] <Kealper> so the server that you try to join can't see if you are actually a paying customer or not :/
#1864 [15:21] <Kealper> what errors?
#1865 [15:21] <fseuring> hmm
#1866 [15:21] <fseuring> took to long to log in/utf8 malformed input/timed out
#1867 [15:22] <mbentley> fseuring: you are connecting to a server that hasn't been updated
#1868 [15:22] <Kealper> timed out means the server was not running, or messing up
#1869 [15:23] <Kealper> utf8 blah blah means the server has not updated to the latest software yet
#1870 [15:23] <mbentley> fseuring: try home.mbentley.net:12345
#1871 [15:23] <Roenie> or overloaded
#1872 [15:23] <Kealper> and took too long to log in means that the server could not verify that you paid for the game
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#1874 [15:23] <Roenie> due to others hammering the shit out of it
#1875 [15:24] <Kealper> Roenie: as of late, probably 99% of those errors are caused from the server being out of date, as beta 1.2 bought a protocol update
#1876 [15:24] <mbentley> took too long to login
#1877 [15:24] <fseuring> took to long to log in
#1878 [15:24] <fseuring> :D
#1879 [15:24] <fseuring> *too
#1880 [15:24] <Kealper> mbentley is like...psychic or something
#1881 [15:24] <mbentley> :D
#1882 [15:24] <Kealper> lol
#1883 [15:24] <mbentley> i have espn
#1884 [15:24] <mbentley> :p
#1885 [15:25] <Roenie> what protocol?
#1886 [15:25] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1887 [15:25] <Kealper> Roenie: the one that the client and server uses to communicate
#1888 [15:25] <fseuring> swisscraft.eu:25565 this one worked
#1889 [15:25] <Kealper> !check google.com
#1890 [15:25] <Kealper> ok
#1891 [15:25] <mbentley> probably a latency issue then
#1892 [15:26] <mbentley> since i am in the US
#1893 [15:26] * Kealper is certain it is due to minecraft.net being wonky right now
#1893 [15:26] <Roenie> Kealper, more specifically? ;-)
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#1895 [15:26] <dopeghoti> definitely due to that.
#1896 [15:27] <Kealper> Roenie: the format for the data transfered over TCP/IP between minecraft servers and minecraft clients? i'm not sure what you mean by more specific....
#1897 [15:27] <dopeghoti> java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 504 for URL: http://www.minecraft.net/game/checkserver.jsp?user=DopeGhoti&serverId=[redacted]
#1898 [15:27] * Kealper called it
#1898 [15:27] <dopeghoti> ^ means MC.net is slow again.
#1899 [15:27] <Roenie> was looking for the name of the protocol
#1900 [15:27] <dopeghoti> HTTP?
#1901 [15:28] <Kealper> Roenie: the one i speak of is proprietary to minecraft
#1902 [15:28] <Kealper> not sure it even has an 'official' name
#1903 [15:28] <Roenie> ic
#1904 [15:28] <dopeghoti> "Minecraft Protocol"?
#1905 [15:28] <Kealper> MP over TCP/IP.....i like it
#1906 [15:28] <Roenie> mcnet : minecraft goes battle.net!! omgbbq
#1907 [15:29] <Kealper> lol
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#1909 [15:29] <Kealper> in other news...i made a program
#1910 [15:30] <Kealper> that (without any modification to client or server) lets me have a cape ingame
#1911 [15:30] <Kealper> due to the server trusting data coming from the client more than it should trust it
#1912 [15:32] <Roenie> =/
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#1914 [15:34] * Kealper won't say how that is done, to prevent people from copying the Mojang cape
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#1916 [15:36] <xales> Kealper
#1917 [15:36] <xales> Minecraft be trollin me
#1918 [15:36] <xales> :'(
#1919 [15:36] <Kealper> orly?
#1920 [15:37] <xales> I start a new world, and I find this epic cave thing in the side of a mountain
#1921 [15:37] <xales> except there isn't anything IN IT, not even coal. Just a creeper that falls on my head and kills me
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#1923 [15:37] <Kealper> XD
#1924 [15:37] <xales> Then, being really pissed off, I dig a 1 wide going down 1 every step staircase
#1925 [15:37] <xales> in my house
#1926 [15:38] <xales> and around level 10, some redstone is blocking the continuation of my staircase
#1927 [15:38] <Kealper> and no iron pick? lol
#1928 [15:38] <xales> so i hear a spider off to the right, so I start to dig around the redstone to the right
#1929 [15:38] <xales> (I have iron, just not a pick)
#1930 [15:38] <xales> and 3 squares to the right
#1931 [15:38] <xales> is 2 diamond ._.
#1932 [15:38] <Kealper> XD
#1933 [15:39] <xales> so I come back with iron pick, dig it out, and one square behind the redstone is an opening to a cave
#1934 [15:39] <xales> with lava
#1935 [15:39] <xales> and 6!!!! more diamond
#1936 [15:39] <xales> and I've only explored the area around the lava too >.>
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#1939 [15:48] <xales> Kealper: http://darksigns.net/bestworldevar.7z
#1940 [15:48] <xales> awesome cave ----^
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#1942 [15:50] <Kealper> lol
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#1944 [15:55] <xales> ...
#1945 [15:55] <xales> "yup, dead end, ill just dig out this coal pocket"
#1946 [15:56] <xales> "ooh look another opening in the ceiling to more cave"
#1947 [15:56] <xales> x2
#1948 [15:56] <fseuring> i know that from my map
#1949 [15:56] <fseuring> just wanted to get to the bedrock and found a huge cave
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#1951 [15:58] <BarryCarlyon> Sound normal fseuring :-D
#1952 [15:59] <fseuring> :D
#1953 [16:00] <BarryCarlyon> Minecraft.net jsut threw a http 504 then a 502.... its not happy.
#1954 [16:00] <mbentley> yeah, minecraft.net looks to be down
#1955 [16:01] <Blue_Star> is the notch blog also down or is it my internet connection ?
#1956 [16:01] <thereddeh> works fine for me
#1957 [16:01] <fseuring> if anyone is interested: http://uploaded.to/file/mqt5lf
#1958 [16:01] <Diablothein> BarryCarlyon, I have a class in room 404.
#1959 [16:01] <BarryCarlyon> Tumblr is having problems Blue_Star .
#1960 [16:02] <Blue_Star> thx for info
#1961 [16:02] <BarryCarlyon> I've seen a post or two on twitter saying tumblr is being funky.
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#1964 [16:04] <Ackmey> Hey guys I have a really weird question
#1965 [16:04] <BarryCarlyon> ut oh
#1966 [16:04] <Diablothein> No, I will NOT go out with you.
#1967 [16:04] <BarryCarlyon> No that is not a monkey on the chair Ackmey .
#1968 [16:04] <Ackmey> ;) Here goes
#1969 [16:06] <BarryCarlyon> ....
#1970 [16:06] <Ackmey> Is it possible to simulate, in terms of timing, a redstone clock made out of an even number of torches? i.e a 8 torch clock, 16 torch clock, etc. I care about the time the circuit takes to complete - I'm trying to build a drum synthesizer but drums don't exactly work on fifth notes and eleventh notes...
#1971 [16:06] <BarryCarlyon> I belive so
#1972 [16:07] <Ackmey> Oh?
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#1974 [16:09] * Ackmey wonders if elaboration is coming?
#1974 [16:09] <BarryCarlyon> Minecraftwiki should have all the information you need.
#1975 [16:10] <Ackmey> Is there any specific title I should look for? The Circuit section is barfy to read in its entirety ;)
#1976 [16:11] <BarryCarlyon> Notch blog should be back up according to tumblr on twitter.
#1977 [16:13] <Ackmey> Oh hm there's a "rapid pulser" that uses 4 torches I'm gonna look into that
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#1983 [16:15] <Poopballz> So I placed a set of double iron doors, and a button next to each one. One door works fine, but the other stays open all the time and closes when I push the button. Can I fix this?
#1984 [16:16] <Poopballz> I've tried replacing the doors/buttons
#1985 [16:16] <BarryCarlyon> bit of red stone should solve there. The is a wiki article about it.
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#1987 [16:19] <mudkip> oook, having issues running server, it worked last night, but now cant connect, not even to myself.
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#1989 [16:20] <Ackmey> Darn, can't find anything on the wiki that would help
#1990 [16:21] <wolf_alex> poopballz I have to same problem :P I just invert the signal
#1991 [16:21] <mudkip> invert the signal? how?
#1992 [16:21] <wolf_alex> barrycarlyon link me
#1993 [16:23] <BarryCarlyon> redstone block torch on side of block redstone
#1994 [16:23] <wolf_alex> link me I said :P
#1995 [16:23] <wolf_alex> oh
#1996 [16:23] <wolf_alex> replying to him
#1997 [16:23] <BarryCarlyon> wolf_alex: minecraft wiki has a search
#1998 [16:24] <BarryCarlyon> mudkip: redstone line, block, torch on other side of block, redstone line
#1999 [16:24] <wolf_alex> and alex's have a lazy funtioin, mines stuck on
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#2001 [16:25] <Poopballz> Thats ugly though >.< Theres no way to fix it without inverting?
#2002 [16:25] <BarryCarlyon> What do you want linking to wolf_alex .
#2003 [16:25] <wolf_alex> just hide it
#2004 [16:25] <BarryCarlyon> ponakka: you can put it underground
#2005 [16:25] <wolf_alex> <BarryCarlyon> bit of red stone should solve there. The is a wiki article about it.
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#2007 [16:25] <BarryCarlyon> 'sec
#2008 [16:25] <Poopballz> ponakka? ok
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#2011 [16:26] <BarryCarlyon> heh o wiki notes on double door fix.
#2012 [16:26] <wolf_alex> link me?
#2013 [16:26] <BarryCarlyon> wolf_alex: there is no wiki notes on it is what I said.
#2014 [16:27] <wolf_alex> lol you said o
#2015 [16:27] <wolf_alex> Sos
#2016 [16:27] <wolf_alex> :c
#2017 [16:27] <wolf_alex> but I wonder why it happens
#2018 [16:27] <BarryCarlyon> I thought there was. :-P
#2019 [16:27] <BarryCarlyon> I might have to add it
#2020 [16:27] <wolf_alex> DO IT
#2021 [16:27] <wolf_alex> DO IT
#2022 [16:27] <wolf_alex> :D
#2023 [16:27] <BarryCarlyon> Might have to get the drawing program out
#2024 [16:28] <Poopballz> Meh. I'm just gonna use levers for now
#2025 [16:28] <Poopballz> They work right?
#2026 [16:28] <wolf_alex> no
#2027 [16:28] <Poopballz> D=
#2028 [16:28] <wolf_alex> poop
#2029 [16:28] <wolf_alex> just hide it in the ground
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#2031 [16:28] <Ackmey> Is the amount of time a cactus takes to grow random or can determined? (Creative time measurement ftw!)
#2032 [16:29] <wolf_alex> make it look like an addition
#2033 [16:29] <Ackmey> can be*
#2034 [16:29] <Poopballz> I don't have redstone yet >.>
#2035 [16:29] <wolf_alex> oh >...<
#2036 [16:29] <wolf_alex> -,...,-
#2037 [16:29] <Poopballz> I play srs, no gifts.
#2038 [16:29] <Kealper> poopballz....that's a real mature name -.-
#2039 [16:29] <Poopballz> Yea. Don't remind me
#2040 [16:29] <Kealper> you can always choose a different nickname using /nick
#2041 [16:29] <Kealper> lol
#2042 [16:30] <Poopballz> It's my ingame nick too though
#2043 [16:30] <Poopballz> and I bought the game with it soo.
#2044 [16:30] <Poopballz> meh
#2045 [16:30] <Kealper> oh my
#2046 [16:30] <wolf_alex> hey I think I know you poopballz
#2047 [16:30] <Poopballz> maybeh
#2048 [16:30] <Poopballz> I play on The Archives if that helps
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#2051 [16:33] <Poopballz> Levers seem to be working fine. At least until I find some redstone
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#2054 [16:40] <Ackmey> Does anyone have ideas for timing methods? I'm try cacti now; i.e the rate at which it grows can be caught via pressure plates, any other suggestions (can't use a redstone clock)
#2055 [16:41] <Poopballz> Not sure how long term you want it, but you could try somthing with water, like
#2056 [16:41] <Poopballz> Dig a trench and when it gets to the end it does somthing
#2057 [16:41] <Poopballz> idk
#2058 [16:43] <Ackmey> Yeah, it needs to be repeating, but maybe if I had a way of inhibiting the water periodically
#2059 [16:43] <Ackmey> and the input needs to get into a circuit somehow
#2060 [16:43] <Poopballz> Putting a redstone torch at the end would work once, but not repeatedly
#2061 [16:43] <Poopballz> at the end of the trench*
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#2066 [16:50] <Ackmey> barf cacti are way too slow
#2067 [16:51] <ponakka> BarryCarlyon: waat?
#2068 [16:51] <ponakka> i can't brain today i has dumb
#2069 [16:54] <Desereck> Hey Elias, are you there?
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#2072 [17:14] <Ackmey> Ugh I can't wrap my mind around wiki schematics, anyone have a youtube vid or screenie of a stable 4-clock that uses north-south quirk?
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#2074 [17:21] <Ackmey> Torch over Block <---- does that just mean torch on top of a block?
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#2078 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#2080 [17:31] <Ookami-07> Would someone mind helping me a bit?
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#2082 [17:33] <Ookami-07> I run Windows 7, an when I installed Minecraft and tried to run it, I got a pop-up asking if I'd like to run it, and then nothing happened.
#2083 [17:36] <grand> Ookami when you hit run nothing happened?
#2084 [17:36] <Ookami-07> Yes.
#2085 [17:37] <grand> what version of win 7
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#2087 [17:37] <Ookami-07> Home premium.
#2088 [17:38] <Ookami-07> I think that's the version
#2089 [17:38] <grand> 32 64?
#2090 [17:38] <Ookami-07> oh!
#2091 [17:38] <Ookami-07> sorry, 64.
#2092 [17:38] <grand> do you have 64bit java installed?
#2093 [17:39] <Ookami-07> um
#2094 [17:39] <Ookami-07> i think?
#2095 [17:39] <Ookami-07> how could i check that
#2096 [17:40] <grand> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
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#2098 [17:41] <Ookami-07> version 6 update 23
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#2100 [17:42] <grand> hmm
#2101 [17:42] <aaronify> Hi I was wondering how to check if a bug has been reported/submit a bug
#2102 [17:43] <Ackmey> Does anyone know of a good tutorial to create an 8-clock?
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#2105 [17:45] <grand> Ookami i not an expert so yo may have to wait for on to join chat sorry i couldn't help
#2106 [17:45] <mib_o5ambv> server down?
#2107 [17:45] <Ookami-07> no problem
#2108 [17:45] <grand> Ackmey have you checked the wiki
#2109 [17:45] <Ookami-07> i have to go for a bit anyway
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#2111 [17:46] <Ackmey> yes but there's no article specifically for it, and I can't wrap my mind around the north/south thing and the wiki schematics
#2112 [17:46] <Ackmey> or the T-swap
#2113 [17:46] <mib_o5ambv> my login keeps on failing any idea why?
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#2116 [18:01] <dopeghoti> hello, caret-backtick-ssen-backtick-caret.
#2117 [18:04] * GreyVulpine yawns
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#2119 [18:05] <HappyMan> hey
#2120 [18:05] <HappyMan> is this where I go for server help?
#2121 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Maybe
#2122 [18:05] <dopeghoti> potentially.
#2123 [18:05] <HappyMan> ok
#2124 [18:06] <HappyMan> is there any way to make the server communicate through one specific port?
#2125 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> server.properties
#2126 [18:06] <dopeghoti> ^that.
#2127 [18:06] <HappyMan> where's that?
#2128 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> same place where you have the server.
#2129 [18:06] <dopeghoti> the same directory as your server binary
#2130 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> It auto-generates when you run it
#2131 [18:06] <HappyMan> running on linux, though
#2132 [18:06] <dopeghoti> the lastish line should be "server-port=$YOUR_PORT_HERE"
#2133 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Same deal
#2134 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> It'll be where you have minecraft_server.jar
#2135 [18:07] <HappyMan> uh, but all I did was right-click the jar file
#2136 [18:07] <HappyMan> and say run with java
#2137 [18:07] <HappyMan> it didn't create anything
#2138 [18:07] <HappyMan> I think.
#2139 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Check again
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#2141 [18:07] <HappyMan> oh wait
#2142 [18:07] <HappyMan> nvm
#2143 [18:07] <HappyMan> there it is
#2144 [18:07] <dopeghoti> \o
#2145 [18:08] <HappyMan> ok, cool
#2146 [18:08] <HappyMan> wait, no
#2147 [18:08] <HappyMan> still doesn't work when I try to connect
#2148 [18:09] <HappyMan> i'm behind a router, forwarded the port
#2149 [18:09] <HappyMan> but when I use my external IP
#2150 [18:09] <HappyMan> no worky
#2151 [18:09] <dopeghoti> more routers won't forward the external IP from an internal connection
#2152 [18:09] <dopeghoti> s/more/many/
#2153 [18:09] <dopeghoti> try using your LAN IP
#2154 [18:09] <HappyMan> yeah, it works when I connect through internal IP
#2155 [18:09] <dopeghoti> meanwhile, we can test your WAN IP/port if you'll share
#2156 [18:10] <HappyMan> 173.49.138.213
#2157 [18:10] <dopeghoti> and the custom port?
#2158 [18:10] <dopeghoti> !check 173.49.138.213
#2159 [18:10] <HappyMan> changed it back to default
#2160 [18:10] <dopeghoti> apparently so :)
#2161 [18:10] <dopeghoti> looks like you're up and running.
#2162 [18:10] <HappyMan> brilliant :D
#2163 [18:10] <HappyMan> thanks
#2164 [18:10] <dopeghoti> That'll be €8.
#2165 [18:11] <HappyMan> and if I complimented your insanely good minecraft helping skills?
#2166 [18:11] <HappyMan> do I get a discount?
#2167 [18:11] <dopeghoti> €7.42. ;)
#2168 [18:11] <HappyMan> awesome
#2169 [18:11] <HappyMan> :P
#2170 [18:11] <ziggo0`> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude
#2171 [18:11] <HappyMan> aptitude is more robust
#2172 [18:11] <dopeghoti> ziggo0`: one is a wrapper for the other.
#2173 [18:11] <HappyMan> than apt-get
#2174 [18:12] <HappyMan> in that it offers more features
#2175 [18:12] <HappyMan> yeah
#2176 [18:12] <HappyMan> :P
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#2178 [18:12] <ziggo0`> Ahh, a GUI of apt-get basicly
#2179 [18:12] <ziggo0`> Kinda not but yea, i see what you mean
#2180 [18:12] <ziggo0`> It's asking me questions where apt-get would not
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#2183 [18:17] <grandreaper> is there a such thing as a dugeon of only creapers?
#2184 [18:19] <dopeghoti> grandreaper: probably
#2185 [18:20] <aetherian> I don't think so...
#2186 [18:20] <aetherian> I could be wrong
#2187 [18:20] <dopeghoti> grandreaper: a spawner only generates one flavor of baddie, and I'd imagine Creeper is pickable.
#2188 [18:22] <Kane_Hart> xales you talk to jeb yet
#2189 [18:22] <Uni553> is it just me or are ladders faster than they used to be
#2190 [18:22] <Uni553> maybe im just getting better fps?
#2191 [18:23] <Uni553> my mine is basically just a straight shaft down to the bottom and is a strip mine from there
#2192 [18:23] <ziggo0`> What's a good mysql alternitive to go with lighttpd?
#2193 [18:23] <Uni553> yeah i dont really use minecarts
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#2196 [18:24] <Mak> Question about server properties.
#2197 [18:24] <Mak> The "natural-monsters" line.
#2198 [18:24] <Ookami-07> Hey, I run Windows 7 x64 bit, have the latest java for my computer, and can not get Minecraft to run.
#2199 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> natural monsters line?
#2200 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> I don't have one
#2201 [18:25] <Mak> I remove, for example, creeper, but they're still wandering about, blowing things up willy-nilly.
#2202 [18:25] <Mak> Hmm. Might be leftover from hey0's....
#2203 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Mak - That's not a normal line
#2204 [18:25] * GreyVulpine nods
#2204 [18:25] <Mak> Cruddy McCrud.
#2205 [18:25] <Mak> Along those same lines, squid are considered monsters, no?
#2206 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> They're non-hostile
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#2208 [18:26] <Mak> Yeah, but with monsters turned off, they don't spawn along with the cows and such.
#2209 [18:26] <Jakob> hey
#2210 [18:26] <Jakob> so I'm trying to run a classic server... and it won't work
#2211 [18:26] <Jakob> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=663f957478c9ae2fb556a69c91950470
#2212 [18:26] <Jakob> that is the external URL
#2213 [18:27] <Jakob> I am forwarding the port
#2214 [18:27] <Mak> I suppose I'll wait for bukkit for all the goodies.
#2215 [18:27] <Jakob> when will bukkit be released?
#2216 [18:27] <Jakob> I'm so sick of waiting!
#2217 [18:27] <Ookami-07> bukkit?
#2218 [18:27] <Mak> Was there ever a hey0 mod that controlled monster spawning areas?
#2219 [18:27] <Mak> Jakob: No idea.
#2220 [18:28] <Jakob> adsflkjdfskljdsklfadskfj
#2221 [18:28] <Jakob> also
#2222 [18:28] <Jakob> can anyone help me with the classic server?
#2223 [18:28] <Mak> Fraid' I've never messed with classic servers, sir. Best to start with double-checking your ports, too.
#2224 [18:28] <Ookami-07> can anyone help me just getting Minecraft to run? D|
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#2226 [18:30] <xales> Ookami-07: What happens when you try to get it to run
#2227 [18:30] <Ookami-07> There is a popup asking me if I want to run it. I click run, then nothing.
#2228 [18:31] <xales> Classic, or Beta?
#2229 [18:32] <Ookami-07> I asuume classic. Whatever the first download link is under Windows.
#2230 [18:32] <Ookami-07> assume*
#2231 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Jakob
#2232 [18:32] <Jakob> yes?
#2233 [18:32] <grandreaper> did you buy it?
#2234 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> recheck your ports and firewall
#2235 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> what OS are you on
#2236 [18:32] <Jakob> 7 ultimate
#2237 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> "firewall.cpl" in the start menu
#2238 [18:33] <Jakob> this is my port, http://www.redzero.net/grabs/c3774725.png
#2239 [18:33] <xales> Ookami-07: What URL are you on when you try to play?
#2240 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> is windows firewall down
#2241 [18:33] <Jakob> yes its off
#2242 [18:34] <Ookami-07> I don't think I'm on a URL. There's no web page.
#2243 [18:34] <xales> Ookami-07: Did you download it?
#2244 [18:34] <Ookami-07> Yes.
#2245 [18:34] <xales> You bought it, right?
#2246 [18:34] <Ookami-07> Yes.
#2247 [18:34] <xales> When you run the download, what happens?
#2248 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Jakob - Can you confirm for me, your server's ip is 1.100?
#2249 [18:35] <Jakob> yes I can one sec
#2250 [18:35] <Ookami-07> I get a Windows popup asking if I'd like to run the application.
#2251 [18:35] <xales> Does it open after that?
#2252 [18:36] <Ookami-07> No. I click "Run" and then the popup goes away and nothing happens.
#2253 [18:36] <xales> What version of Windows are you running?
#2254 [18:37] <Jakob> uploading screenshot
#2255 [18:37] <Jakob> there
#2256 [18:37] <Jakob> http://www.redzero.net/grabs/cd0ba46e.png
#2257 [18:37] <Ookami-07> Windows 7 64-bit
#2258 [18:37] <Jakob> GreyVulpine ^
#2259 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I see it
#2260 [18:37] <xales> Look in the folder where the file you downloaded is, are there any text files?
#2261 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> On your router's status page
#2262 [18:38] <Jakob> umm
#2263 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> does your public ip match up with whatismyip.com
#2264 [18:38] <Jakob> where do I see the public ip?
#2265 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> router's status page
#2266 [18:39] <Jakob> I have a linksys WRT54G
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#2268 [18:39] <Jakob> oh oay
#2269 [18:39] <Jakob> okay
#2270 [18:39] <Jakob> I see it
#2271 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> last page
#2272 [18:39] <Jakob> um
#2273 [18:39] <Ookami-07> xales: No, there's just Minecraft.exe
#2274 [18:39] <Ookami-07> sorry, brb one second.
#2275 [18:39] <Jakob> nothing matches the IP I get from http://www.ip.ztecnet.net/
#2276 [18:39] <xales> Ookami-07: Let me know when you are back
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#2278 [18:40] <Jakob> fail link
#2279 [18:40] <Jakob> http://ip.ztecnet.net/
#2280 [18:40] <SkiingPenguins> o.o
#2281 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Does it start with 10.x.y.z?
#2282 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> or
#2283 [18:40] <Jakob> the router, or mine?
#2284 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.x.y
#2285 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> the router's public/WAN/internet ip
#2286 [18:40] <Jakob> in the status page it does
#2287 [18:40] <feenyx> yay, working bukkit with working whitelist and admintools
#2288 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Guess what
#2289 [18:40] <Jakob> ?
#2290 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> ROuter behind a router
#2291 [18:40] <Jakob> wha
#2292 [18:41] <SkiingPenguins> ^.^
#2293 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> gimme one sec
#2294 [18:41] <Vader> Why cant i dig at spawn on SMP?
#2295 [18:41] <feenyx> congrats, you get to portforward twice!
#2296 [18:41] <Jakob> o_O
#2297 [18:41] <Jakob> hahaha
#2298 [18:41] <feenyx> Vader: spawn is almost always protected
#2299 [18:41] * GreyVulpine quits game
#2299 [18:41] <Jakob> I have no idea what that means
#2300 [18:41] <Jakob> um
#2301 [18:41] <Jakob> how can I change that?
#2302 [18:41] <Vader> im OP
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#2304 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> You know how you needed to port forward from your router to your computer?
#2305 [18:41] <Jakob> yeah
#2306 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> You now need to port forward from your first router, to your linksys router
#2307 [18:41] <Jakob> wtf
#2308 [18:41] <Jakob> I only have one router.
#2309 [18:41] <SkiingPenguins> some people shouldnt use computers
#2310 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> You most definitely don't
#2311 [18:42] <Jakob> What are you talking about
#2312 [18:42] <Jakob> and SkiingPenguins are you talking about me?
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#2314 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Could you please tell me, or PM me your linksys's public IP?
#2315 [18:42] <Jakob> Trust me, I probably have more experience than you.
#2316 [18:42] <Jakob> just not with this area.
#2317 [18:42] <Jakob> yeah
#2318 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> I work tech support
#2319 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> That's really all you need to know
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#2321 [18:43] <blczer0> Hey
#2322 [18:43] <blczer0> Can someone help me?
#2323 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps
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#2325 [18:43] <blczer0> I cannot connect to any servers.
#2326 [18:43] <mbentley> today has seriously been the day of 'double nat' issues...
#2327 [18:43] <blczer0> Is minecraft down?
#2328 [18:43] <xales> blczer0: What happens when you try to connect?
#2329 [18:44] <blczer0> Timeout
#2330 [18:44] <mbentley> i had try a few times to get on my server myself
#2331 [18:44] <feenyx> same here
#2332 [18:44] <blczer0> :(
#2333 [18:44] <feenyx> authentication servers are having a hard time keeping up
#2334 [18:44] <mbentley> i'd suggest keep trying
#2335 [18:44] <blczer0> Ive been trying to connect to a server for 4 hours.
#2336 [18:44] <blczer0> I cannot connect.
#2337 [18:44] <mbentley> then maybe that one server isn't working
#2338 [18:45] <feenyx> have you tried other servers?
#2339 [18:45] <blczer0> Ive tried other servers.
#2340 [18:45] <blczer0> No server is working.
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#2342 [18:45] <blczer0> Is minecraft down?
#2343 [18:45] <mbentley> blczer0: try home.mbentley.net:12345
#2344 [18:45] <blczer0> ok one sec
#2345 [18:45] <blczer0> What version of minecraft?
#2346 [18:46] <mbentley> beta
#2347 [18:46] <mbentley> there is only one version...
#2348 [18:46] <blczer0> Latest version?
#2349 [18:46] <mbentley> yeah
#2350 [18:46] <mbentley> that is the only supported version.
#2351 [18:47] <mbentley> 2011-01-17 18:46:15 [INFO] blczer0 lost connection: disconnect.endOfStream
#2352 [18:47] <blczer0> One sec.
#2353 [18:47] <blczer0> I have to update.
#2354 [18:47] <mbentley> logged in fine that time
#2355 [18:47] <blczer0> Im in.
#2356 [18:47] <blczer0> wow.
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#2358 [18:48] <blczer0> Thats strange.
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#2360 [18:55] <LatHans> can I remove a TNT block without setting it off?
#2361 [18:55] <Utoxin> Not that I know of.
#2362 [18:57] <blczer0> If your a mod you can.
#2363 [18:57] <LatHans> I am
#2364 [18:58] <NinjaKirby> Encase in Obsidian, punch before laying the last block, would be my noobish approach
#2365 [18:58] <blczer0> try /defuse
#2366 [18:58] <mbentley> only on a modded server
#2367 [18:58] <blczer0> :/
#2368 [18:58] <LatHans> yeah, sounds like it need som server side mod
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#2370 [18:59] <CGI528> O___o
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#2374 [19:14] <Kane_Hart> xales you talk to jeb yet :P that bug is dooming godcraft
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#2376 [19:16] <Minner_1> hello all
#2377 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2378 [19:17] <Minner_1> is there a way to change the invintory while running a private server?
#2379 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> /give ?
#2380 [19:18] <Minner_1> im playing with me and a frind and we want to know is there a way.....
#2381 [19:18] <Minner_1> give?
#2382 [19:18] * GreyVulpine nods
#2382 [19:18] <Minner_1> ok how about this
#2383 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> /give name id num
#2384 [19:18] <Minner_1> how do i bring up commands
#2385 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> "help" in the server consoe
#2386 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> console*
#2387 [19:19] <Minner_1> im running a server through java on the same computer
#2388 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> For example, to give yourself 64 torches, you would type: /give Minner_1 50 64
#2389 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#2390 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Would be where you go to for id
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#2392 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> This is after you make yourself op on the server
#2393 [19:19] <Minner_1> how do i make myself op
#2394 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> "op Minner_1" in console
#2395 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> If you add yourself to the ops.txt file (one name per line), it'll automatically make yourself op each time you launch the server
#2396 [19:20] <Minner_1> ok now it says: opping username
#2397 [19:20] <Minner_1> so now am i op?
#2398 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#2399 [19:20] <Minner_1> oh cool
#2400 [19:21] <Minner_1> now that link has all the list of commands
#2401 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> No, that link has data values for each item
#2402 [19:21] * GreyVulpine points above
#2402 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> For example, to give yourself 64 torches, you would type: /give Minner_1 50 64
#2403 [19:21] <Minner_1> what im trying to do i give like.... a bunch of tourches and axes and stuff
#2404 [19:22] <Minner_1> oh i c
#2405 [19:22] * GreyVulpine nods
#2405 [19:22] <Minner_1> ill try brb
#2406 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, gotta run
#2407 [19:22] * GreyVulpine waves
#2407 [19:22] <Minner_1> oh ok
#2408 [19:22] <Minner_1> thanks for ur help
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#2410 [19:22] <Minner_1> ^_^
#2411 [19:22] <aetherian> buhbye for now
#2412 [19:22] <mollstam> is it me or did minecraft.net speed up? :o
#2413 [19:23] <aetherian> that does seem fast
#2414 [19:23] <aetherian> how are you testing it
#2415 [19:23] * mbentley gives GreyVulpine a larger spoon
#2415 [19:24] <aetherian> nawyay2gg
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#2422 [19:39] <red_snow> test
#2423 [19:40] <red_snow> Hi guys
#2424 [19:40] <red_snow> Can someone suggest a good minecraft server host ?
#2425 [19:41] <SkiingPenguins> is minecraft UDP or TCP?
#2426 [19:42] <red_snow> TCP i think
#2427 [19:43] <red_snow> i rented a server last night
#2428 [19:43] <red_snow> its laggy as shit
#2429 [19:43] <red_snow> has only 512MB Ram
#2430 [19:46] <SkiingPenguins> heh my minecraft server uses 500MB of my ram
#2431 [19:47] <red_snow> you are prolly hosting it yourself
#2432 [19:47] <red_snow> my cable connection sucks
#2433 [19:47] <SkiingPenguins> yes i tried hosting it myself
#2434 [19:47] <SkiingPenguins> didnt work well :)
#2435 [19:48] <red_snow> yea
#2436 [19:48] <red_snow> i mean server was lagging with 3 players
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#2438 [19:48] <red_snow> i looked at the mem usage through McMyAdmin
#2439 [19:48] <red_snow> = 100%
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#2441 [19:49] <red_snow> i had a server with xenon
#2442 [19:49] <red_snow> server wasn;t bad
#2443 [19:49] <mbentley> maybe even a xeon
#2444 [19:49] <red_snow> but thier support sucks
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#2447 [19:56] <Uni553> you know how if you dye a grey sheep itll turn white
#2448 [19:56] <Uni553> wouldnt it be cool if you could do the reverse
#2449 [19:56] <Uni553> make blue sheep
#2450 [19:56] <Uni553> lol
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#2457 [20:03] <Vader> as host how do i unprotect blocks in smp?
#2458 [20:05] <Vader> ?
#2459 [20:05] <mbentley> what do you mean by unprotect?
#2460 [20:05] <mbentley> if you are trying to mine in the spawn zone, the blocks will keep reappearing
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#2462 [20:05] <mbentley> unless the player is an op or admin
#2463 [20:06] <Vader> i am the op that doesn't fix it
#2464 [20:06] <LG_Legacy> ?
#2465 [20:13] <red_snow> Can someone suggest a good minecraft server host ?
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#2469 [20:18] <TerraNova> hello?
#2470 [20:18] <TerraNova> i have a problem with minecraft
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#2472 [20:20] <TerraNova> can anyone help me?
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#2474 [20:22] <AndroUser2> hey guys I'm trying to run of mine craft server on ubuntu linux. where is the server configuration file do I just create it in the same directory?
#2475 [20:23] <TerraNova> i am trying to run minecraft and it keeps crashing my pc to the point where the pc stays on the monitor light goes yellow
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#2478 [20:24] <aeulos_> Anyone know where the server configuration file is?
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#2480 [20:25] <TerraNova> i do
#2481 [20:25] <abcdefg> hi
#2482 [20:25] <abcdefg> i have just bought the game and downloaded the minecraft.exe file
#2483 [20:26] <Shadow386> if you cant login, means minecraft.net is down probably
#2484 [20:26] <abcdefg> but when i try to login there is an error
#2485 [20:26] <abcdefg> fatal error occured (2): null
#2486 [20:27] <aeulos_> I can login but I would like to edit server stuff and do I just make a file called 'server.properties' in the same directory?
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#2488 [20:27] <abcdefg> hmm, right now after trying again, can't connect to minecraft.net
#2489 [20:28] <abcdefg> unfortunately, i need to be logged in for once to play offline
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#2491 [20:29] <abcdefg> how often does it happen, that the server is down?
#2492 [20:29] <nipper> Anyone else not able to login. did notch kill the login/auth servers again.
#2493 [20:29] <Levs> yeah, minecraft.net's website isn't comming up for me either
#2494 [20:30] <nipper> with a over 10mil in sales you think he get some good servers.
#2495 [20:30] <Diablothein> Unrelated: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/114/1144275p1.html I died laughing...
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#2497 [20:31] <TerraNova> can someone help me?
#2498 [20:32] <abcdefg> probably a better server can help everybody...
#2499 [20:32] <TerraNova> my pc keeps crashing like 5-10 min into playing minecraft
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#2501 [20:32] <TerraNova> like the pc stays on
#2502 [20:32] <TerraNova> the light goes yellow
#2503 [20:33] <TerraNova> on monitor
#2504 [20:33] <Levs> Can you play other 3D games fine?
#2505 [20:33] <nipper> TerraNova up date drivers.
#2506 [20:33] <TerraNova> my
#2507 [20:33] <red_snow> Can someone suggest a good minecraft server host ?
#2508 [20:33] <TerraNova> rafix is updated
#2509 [20:33] <TerraNova> grafix
#2510 [20:33] <TerraNova> is up2date
#2511 [20:33] <TerraNova> and yes levs
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#2513 [20:35] <abcdefg> are you guys able to connect to the server?
#2514 [20:35] <TerraNova> nope
#2515 [20:35] <TerraNova> its down
#2516 [20:35] <TerraNova> atm
#2517 [20:36] <aeulos_> Anyone run a server?
#2518 [20:36] <Levs> wonder how long this outage is gonna last
#2519 [20:36] <Levs> I do
#2520 [20:36] <Levs> for minecraft
#2521 [20:36] <TerraNova> damn alot of people play minecraft
#2522 [20:36] <TerraNova> lol
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#2524 [20:38] <TerraNova> i needhelp still lol
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#2526 [20:41] <TerraNova> i hate homework
#2527 [20:41] <TerraNova> :(
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#2529 [20:43] <TheBix> guysssss
#2530 [20:43] <TheBix> my minecraft terminal says that I'm either getting http response with 504 or a timeout when trying to log in.
#2531 [20:43] <abcdefg> the server is down...
#2532 [20:43] <TheBix> I got in earlier.
#2533 [20:44] <TheBix> earlier as in when it was still giving me timeouts and errors
#2534 [20:44] <mbentley> keep trying TheBix
#2535 [20:44] <TheBix> so its just annoying me :P
#2536 [20:44] <abcdefg> half an hour ago i just bought the game
#2537 [20:44] <abcdefg> and now i am not able to play it...
#2538 [20:44] <TheBix> abcdefg: yes you can. Press "play offline"
#2539 [20:44] <TheBix> why would you even want to play multiplayer when you've only had it for half an hour?
#2540 [20:44] <abcdefg> no, i have to log in for once
#2541 [20:44] <abcdefg> to play offline
#2542 [20:45] <mbentley> just keep trying
#2543 [20:45] <mbentley> you will eventually be authenticated
#2544 [20:45] <TheBix> even if you do you still need to access minecraft.net to join a server
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#2546 [20:45] <TheBix> again that is
#2547 [20:46] <mbentley> same principal applies, just keep trying to login to the server
#2548 [20:46] <mbentley> took me like 5 tries to get on my server
#2549 [20:46] <TheBix> of course. but that doesn't stop it being really annoying does it?
#2550 [20:46] <mbentley> of course not
#2551 [20:46] <mbentley> but you can at least join a server. once you are in, it's fine
#2552 [20:47] <TheBix> yeah I know
#2553 [20:47] <aeulos_> mbentley do you know where server config file is? Do I just create it?
#2554 [20:47] <TheBix> I was just in but then I needed to go do something... and now i'm screwed
#2555 [20:47] <TheBix> and can't get back in
#2556 [20:47] <mbentley> aeulos_: when you start your server for the first time, it will generate all of the config files
#2557 [20:47] <aeulos_> Where does it put them
#2558 [20:48] <aeulos_> I downloaded the minecraft_server.jar and ran it and its the only file in the folder
#2559 [20:48] <mbentley> in the same directory as the minecraft_server file
#2560 [20:48] <aeulos_> What OS are you running
#2561 [20:49] <mbentley> mine runs on linux but the same applies for windows
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#2563 [20:49] <TheBix> and mac for that matter
#2564 [20:49] <aeulos_> Wierd.
#2565 [20:49] <TheBix> afaik
#2566 [20:49] <aeulos_> Wonder why it is not generating?
#2567 [20:49] <aeulos_> Do I need to give it permissions or somthing?
#2568 [20:49] <mbentley> what os are you using?
#2569 [20:49] <TheBix> Server returned HTTP response code: 504 for URL: http://www.minecraft.net/game/getversion.jsp >:(
#2570 [20:50] <aeulos_> Ubuntu
#2571 [20:50] <mbentley> how are you executing the .jar?
#2572 [20:50] <TheBix> oh wow this time I got a 502
#2573 [20:50] <aeulos_> Yes
#2574 [20:50] <mbentley> HOW
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#2577 [20:50] <TheBix> and according to the HTTP rfc that means bad gateway.
#2578 [20:51] <mbentley> TheBix: right
#2579 [20:51] <abcdefg> well, i hope my money helps him to get a better server
#2580 [20:51] <mbentley> try to go to minecraft.net and you will see the same
#2581 [20:51] <TheBix> so I'm guessing thats his ddos protection
#2582 [20:51] <aeulos_> I fixed it
#2583 [20:51] <mbentley> not exactly
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#2586 [20:52] <TheBix> if you get a 504 I'm assuming that means the server is overloaded
#2587 [20:52] <TheBix> while if you get a 502 I'm pretty sure that just means its decided to reject you because of the ddos protection
#2588 [20:55] <mbentley> aeulos_: if you are just double clicking on the jar 1.) that is not the right way to do it and 2.) it will put the files in your 'home' directory
#2589 [20:56] <grandreaper> i get cant connect to minecraft.net?
#2590 [20:56] <TheBix> grandreaper: so does the rest of the world.
#2591 [20:57] <grandreaper> MC is down?
#2592 [20:57] <grandreaper> :/
#2593 [20:57] <TheBix> for some reason.
#2594 [20:57] <mbentley> i am pretty sure the minecraft.net servers are load balanced and x out of x are down so occasionally you will get through
#2595 [20:57] <TheBix> you'd think now that notch has 9567096742297529654 dollars he'd be able to invest in better server hardware and the like
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#2598 [21:00] <Mathuin> http://minecraft.net/ is returning 502 Bad Gateway. Do the folks at Mojang already know?
#2599 [21:00] <mbentley> i am sure they do
#2600 [21:00] <Mathuin> Okay. Just wanted to make sure!
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#2603 [21:03] <TheBix> its either fixed
#2604 [21:03] <TheBix> or I'm just lucky
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#2606 [21:05] <abcdefg> hmm, i can load the homepage
#2607 [21:05] <Levs> yay, can connect now
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#2609 [21:06] <abcdefg> but i still have the fatal error occured...
#2610 [21:07] <mbentley> abcdefg: could you please copy and paste the entire error into pastebin.com and give me the URL?
#2611 [21:08] <Mathuin> Oooh, from Bad Gateway to Gateway Time-out.
#2612 [21:09] <abcdefg> fatal error occured (2): null
#2613 [21:09] <abcdefg> what is pastebin?
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#2615 [21:10] <Mathuin> pastebin is a website that lets you put a bunch of text on a page and get a short link which you can then post back here so we can all see what error message you got in all the gory detail.
#2616 [21:13] <mbentley> and what are you doing when that error comes up?
#2617 [21:13] <abcdefg> i just try to log in, and then comes the message
#2618 [21:14] <mbentley> do you have the latest java jre?
#2619 [21:14] <abcdefg> failed to launch, fatal error occured (2): null
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#2621 [21:14] <abcdefg> i bought the game today
#2622 [21:14] <abcdefg> i never started it before
#2623 [21:14] <abcdefg> its the minecraft.exe file
#2624 [21:15] <SinZ> abcdefg, do you have latest java
#2625 [21:15] <abcdefg> sure
#2626 [21:16] <mbentley> abcdefg: go here >> http://javatester.org/version.html
#2627 [21:16] <mbentley> and tell me what version it says you have installed
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#2629 [21:16] <SinZ> or go into command prompt and type in java -version
#2630 [21:17] <NinjaKirby> Random: Do GIF Files use algorithms to identify similar frames to aid compression?
#2631 [21:17] <abcdefg> Java Version: 1.1.4 from Microsoft Corp.
#2632 [21:18] <mbentley> that would be why
#2633 [21:18] <TampaPowers> Im looking for a webinterface for multiple servers, is there anything besides the paid ones?
#2634 [21:18] <abcdefg> wait
#2635 [21:18] <abcdefg> wrong
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#2637 [21:18] <abcdefg> Java Version 1.6.0_16 from Sun Microsystems Inc.
#2638 [21:18] <mbentley> you should still update... http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
#2639 [21:18] <NinjaKirby> Don't worry actually, I'll stop being lazy and Wiki it XD
#2640 [21:19] <mbentley> click 'download jre' in the table that say 'Java Platform, Standard Edition'
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#2643 [21:20] <TampaPowers> anything?
#2644 [21:21] <Mathuin> TampaPowers: the topic to #smp has a link to a list of SMP servers, is that what you mean?
#2645 [21:21] <TampaPowers> im searching for something like mymcadmin
#2646 [21:21] <TampaPowers> these web interface thingies
#2647 [21:21] <TampaPowers> for multiple servers
#2648 [21:21] <TampaPowers> but one where i dont pay for
#2649 [21:21] <Mathuin> Alas, I imagine you'll have to write one. :-)
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#2651 [21:22] <mib_0g1zen> hello guys anyone knows a good 1.2 server i can play ???
#2652 [21:23] <xales> Server list: http://minestatus.net/
#2653 [21:23] <TampaPowers> aurora and buxville
#2654 [21:26] <TampaPowers> how much coal does the powered minecart burn per min?
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#2656 [21:27] <abcdef> hi
#2657 [21:27] <abcdef> i am back
#2658 [21:28] <abcdef> hava is updated now
#2659 [21:28] <abcdef> but i think the problem is still the server
#2660 [21:29] <xales> What is the problem?
#2661 [21:29] <abcdef> i can't log in
#2662 [21:29] <abcdef> i just bought the game
#2663 [21:29] <abcdef> minecraft.exe
#2664 [21:29] <abcdef> started it, and i can't log in
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#2666 [21:29] <mib_0g1zen> what is the site for the aurora 1.2 server?
#2667 [21:30] <abcdef> there was the fatal error occured (2): error
#2668 [21:30] <xales> mib_0g1zen: I don't know. Try googling it?
#2669 [21:30] <xales> abcdef: When do you see that? Right after you open the game?
#2670 [21:30] <c--b> So I bought minecraft 20 minutes ago and have yet to recieve an email confirm.
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#2672 [21:30] <c--b> The website went down about then.
#2673 [21:30] <abcdef> i depends
#2674 [21:30] <Mathuin> TampaPower: [powered minecart] I think that's on the Minecraft Wiki.
#2675 [21:30] <c--b> Its not in my spam folder.
#2676 [21:31] <c--b> :0
#2677 [21:31] <abcdef> when i click login sometimes i have: can't connect to minecraft.net
#2678 [21:31] <xales> c--b: Did you buy via Paypal?
#2679 [21:31] <abcdef> sometimes i have the error
#2680 [21:31] <abcdef> no, creditcard
#2681 [21:31] <xales> abcdef: I wasn't asking you...Anyway, it sounds like an issue with minecraft.net right now
#2682 [21:32] <xales> abcdef: Try again tomorrow and come back here if it still doesn't work
#2683 [21:32] <c--b> xales: Yes, by paypal
#2684 [21:32] <TampaPowers> doesnt say on the wiki
#2685 [21:32] <xales> c--b: You should recieve an email from Paypal with a receipt
#2686 [21:32] <abcdef> ok
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#2688 [21:32] <c--b> Yep, got that.
#2689 [21:33] <xales> I don't think there is any other email
#2690 [21:33] <c--b> Ok,should it automatically have linked to my Minecraft account?
#2691 [21:33] <xales> It may take a bit of time before your account is actually marked as premium - minecraft.net is being attacked or something like that right now
#2692 [21:34] <xales> Yeah, it will automatically link it to the account you logged in with when you bought it
#2693 [21:34] <xales> It just may take some time - it shouldn't be more than 24 hours though
#2694 [21:34] <c--b> Ok, thanks; that should clear things up.
#2695 [21:36] <c--b> Who attacks an indie gamedev anyhow? Go attack EA or something.
#2696 [21:36] <c--b> Anyway thanks.
#2697 [21:36] <xales> I know, right? >.>
#2698 [21:36] <xales> Some people hate Minecraft for some reason :(
#2699 [21:37] <c--b> WEll I guess it draws in two crowds.
#2700 [21:37] <c--b> Garrys mod, and Team fortress.
#2701 [21:37] <c--b> And they're known for...tendencies.
#2702 [21:38] <Spicymustard> I have "my character is stuck" problem. Is there a way to force death/respawn? I'm in single survival mode.
#2703 [21:38] <xales> Spicymustard: Not to my knowledge - where/how did you get stuck?
#2704 [21:39] <c--b> One last thing, I'm on a netbook with a 3g connection; minecraft will run poorly on it. Can I transfer over my minecraft files and play offline with no internet connection?
#2705 [21:39] <xales> You could use a map editor to change your location, which is probably the easiest way
#2706 [21:39] <xales> c--b: You should be able to, yes
#2707 [21:39] <Spicymustard> I got stuck on a track
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#2709 [21:40] <Spicymustard> There's a "Play offline" button if you can't connect to minecraft.net
#2710 [21:40] <Spicymustard> Was riding minecart down a set of track, and suddenly, it got stuck (there were no creatures, the cart just stopped). I jump out of the cart, and then I'm stuck in midair. My character won't drop down and I'm stuck there.
#2711 [21:40] <c--b> I was thinking maybe it stored some sort of verification file that I could transfer over to my more beefy laptop.
#2712 [21:41] <c--b> I guess we'll see.
#2713 [21:41] <xales> Can you try to get back into the minecart, Spicymustard?
#2714 [21:41] <Spicymustard> nope
#2715 [21:41] <xales> c--b: You can transfer the files over, but you have to do it for each update
#2716 [21:41] <Spicymustard> I attacked the cart, and it became an item, which couldn't be picked up... for some reason I don't know.
#2717 [21:41] <xales> Spicymustard: Try downloading MCEdit and changing the location of the player, it should have a way to do that
#2718 [21:42] <Spicymustard> Ok, thanks.
#2719 [21:42] <c--b> Thats fine with me xales, thanks for the help.
#2720 [21:42] <c--b> Bye
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#2724 [21:45] <Spicymustard> I'll give it a try. It seems the last update for that program was January of last year? /shrug
#2725 [21:49] <Diablothein> MC still down?
#2726 [21:49] <grandreaper> not for me
#2727 [21:49] <grandreaper> i believe its fixed
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#2729 [21:52] <Diablothein> Anyways, now to continue my hunt for a server.
#2730 [21:52] <Caleb> minecraft is no longer free?
#2731 [21:52] <Diablothein> Caleb, never was.
#2732 [21:53] <SinZ> it was once
#2733 [21:53] <Diablothein> Or WAS it?
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#2735 [21:57] <Slayer> Hi, does anyone know where I can get some support on purchasing the game?
#2736 [21:58] <xales> What is the problem?
#2737 [21:59] <Slayer> Well, I'm entering all my cards information correctly, but I get the message, message from server: verification denied
#2738 [22:00] <xales> That is a problem with your the issuing bank verifying the card
#2739 [22:00] <xales> Try using Paypal, and if Paypal doesn't work, call your bank
#2740 [22:01] <Slayer> Oh, alright, thank you very much.
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#2743 [22:07] <Spicymustard> When I load from a different point, I still can't move. I'm going to try loading another save.
#2744 [22:07] <mib_z4hjao> man some one help me i am starting to get crazy i bought the day 2 days ago and i cant find any decent server to play ..... can some one advise me 1 please?
#2745 [22:07] <xales> mib_z4hjao: http://minestatus.net/
#2746 [22:08] <mib_z4hjao> only buxvile is cool....
#2747 [22:08] <mib_z4hjao> the others sux
#2748 [22:08] <mib_z4hjao> and buxville is with witelists
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#2751 [22:08] <xales> mib_z4hjao: try smp.shadow-craft.net
#2752 [22:08] <AG_Elias> mib_z4hjao, try #smp
#2753 [22:09] <AG_Elias> Unless we are suddenly allowed to advertise in here?
#2754 [22:09] <AG_Elias> =D
#2755 [22:09] <xales> Only if they ask
#2756 [22:09] <AG_Elias> k
#2757 [22:09] <xales> It isn't my server anyway :)
#2758 [22:09] <fester> so i can't connect to a server. other people are playing on it, but when i connect to it i get to "Logging in..." and then it times out. I've deleted my .minecraft folder and tried again, but to no avail
#2759 [22:10] <AG_Elias> Fester: Check http://isminecraftdown.net
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#2761 [22:10] <fester> AG_Elias: it's up
#2762 [22:10] <fester> but i can't connect
#2763 [22:10] <AG_Elias> fester: Do you get eventually dropped to a "Connection timeout"? or does it continue for Loggin in...?
#2764 [22:10] <fester> AG_Elias: yes, the former
#2765 [22:11] <AG_Elias> fester: The server is lagging on your request. Keep trying.
#2766 [22:11] <fester> i've tried for like 4-5 days
#2767 [22:11] <fester> since the last update
#2768 [22:11] <fester> with cake, new trees, etc...
#2769 [22:12] <xales> fester: What is your username?
#2770 [22:13] <fester> fester0
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#2772 [22:14] <xales> fester: Try again tomorrow, minecraft.net is having some issues =/
#2773 [22:14] <fester> :(
#2774 [22:15] <Spicymustard> It appears as though this save file I've been working with has been corrupted. =(
#2775 [22:15] <xales> =\
#2776 [22:15] <Spicymustard> It doesn't give me error msgs per se, but yeah, it's messed up.
#2777 [22:16] <Spicymustard> The world started losing file size... which shouldn't happen if you're just loading/exiting.
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#2779 [22:17] <Spicymustard> I'm trying to let the time run with monsters spawning so that they might kill me to see if that "fixes" things.
#2780 [22:17] <KillSpammer> :O
#2781 [22:17] <Spicymustard> At the moment, when I destroy earth blocks, they hover in the air and cannot be collected.
#2782 [22:18] <fester> xales: why did you want my username?
#2783 [22:18] <xales> Spicymustard: It is possible that something regarding player data got corrupted...but if the map filesize is changing, I can't see it being good
#2784 [22:18] <KillSpammer> OMG!
#2785 [22:19] <Spicymustard> Yeah. Everything is fine on my other maps.
#2786 [22:19] <KillSpammer> Its a serious convosation in #minecraft ?
#2787 [22:19] <xales> fester: Some people with that problem have it because the server fails to verify their username when minecraft.net actually works
#2788 [22:19] <KillSpammer> Spicymustard: Map corruption
#2789 [22:19] <xales> And the reason that they have the problem is because the username doesn't exist
#2790 [22:19] <xales> Because they are using a pirated version
#2791 [22:19] <fester> xales: yea, i'm able to log into the browser based version
#2792 [22:20] <Spicymustard> Yeah, it's a shame... all my tracks are laid for naught.
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#2794 [22:20] <Spicymustard> Oh well, I'll go explore caves in a different map. >.>
#2795 [22:21] <Spicymustard> Thanks for your help though. The editing tool may be useful in the future.
#2796 [22:21] <xales> No problem. Good luck
#2797 [22:21] <Spicymustard> I guess it just means I get to back up my maps occasionally.
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#2802 [22:36] <Ookami-07> Hey, I run Windows 7 x64 bit, have the latest java for my computer, and can not get Minecraft to run.
#2803 [22:38] <OODavo> Ookami-07: Classic or Beta?
#2804 [22:38] <Ookami-07> classic
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#2807 [22:39] <OODavo> Can you run Beta?
#2808 [22:39] <OODavo> Are you getting an error message?
#2809 [22:40] <Ookami-07> never tried beta
#2810 [22:40] <Ookami-07> no error message
#2811 [22:40] <dopeghoti> minecraft.net is having issues
#2812 [22:41] <Ookami-07> when i download the minecraft.exe file and try to run it, i get a popup asking if i'd like to run it, and when i click run, the popup goes away and nothing happens.
#2813 [22:41] <OODavo> Hmm.
#2814 [22:42] <OODavo> Sounds like it's a Java issue.
#2815 [22:42] <OODavo> Have you tried rebooting yet?
#2816 [22:42] <Ookami-07> Tried reinstalling, no difference.
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#2818 [22:43] <Ookami-07> could try again if you think i should.
#2819 [22:48] <Ookami-07> or, apparently i could uninstall the old java updates that don't get uninstalled when you update
#2820 [22:48] <Ookami-07> duh.
#2821 [22:49] <Dazuro> Uh, every time I patch an HD texture, it overwrites my default
#2822 [22:50] <Dazuro> Last time it fixed itself after a seemingly random amount of time
#2823 [22:50] <Dazuro> but.. i dont want to wait until it just happens to work
#2824 [22:50] <Dazuro> what do i do?
#2825 [22:54] <Dazuro> Even redownloading the original program didn't help..
#2826 [22:59] <Dazuro> and now ive got "[SEVERE] Unexpected exception" on my server
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#2834 [23:20] <TheBix> guys when are they going finish bukkit.
#2835 [23:20] <KillSpammer> Ask in #bukkit ?
#2836 [23:20] <AG_Elias> TheBix: As soon as it is possible.
#2837 [23:20] <KillSpammer> As the motd states...
#2838 [23:20] <AG_Elias> Check http://isbukkitdoneyet.com
#2839 [23:20] <KillSpammer> We do not support mods.
#2840 [23:22] <Ookami-07> i'm having problems trying to play multiplayer D|
#2841 [23:23] <TheBix> KillSpammer: yeah but how was I to find that chan
#2842 [23:23] <KillSpammer> #bukkit
#2843 [23:23] <KillSpammer> Type /join #bukkit
#2844 [23:26] <TheBix> what does that have to do with anything>
#2845 [23:26] <AG_Elias> KillSpammer: Don't bother, he is a troll.
#2846 [23:26] <TheBix> AG_Elias: I'm not a troll you are just an asshat.
#2847 [23:27] <Ookami-07> TheBix: #bukkit is the chat for the mod
#2848 [23:27] <Ookami-07> go in there and bother them, is what he's saying
#2849 [23:27] <Ookami-07> or she
#2850 [23:27] <Ookami-07> I'm not sure.
#2851 [23:27] <TheBix> he already said it and I already joined is what I'm saying.
#2852 [23:27] <Ookami-07> Then just stop talking
#2853 [23:27] <Ookami-07> Maybe say thank you
#2854 [23:27] <AG_Elias> Ookami-07, don't waste your time. He just went in there and started complaining about us wasting money on domains when we could just use IPs. Obvious troll.
#2855 [23:27] <TheBix> so why'd he have to post it again
#2856 [23:28] <Ookami-07> Anyway
#2857 [23:28] <TheBix> AG_Elias: wtf that wasn't even me
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#2859 [23:28] <TheBix> AG_Elias: is IRC too complex for you or something?
#2860 [23:28] <Ookami-07> Could someone help me figure out what's with multiplayer on Minecraft? I can't seem to join any server at all..
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#2862 [23:28] <TheBix> Ookami-07: authentication server is down.
#2863 [23:28] <TheBix> you can still get through if you keep trying.
#2864 [23:29] <Ookami-07> ah
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#2866 [23:29] <Ookami-07> does that cause a timeout error all the time?
#2867 [23:29] <TheBix> Not all the time
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#2869 [23:29] <Ookami-07> well i mean when it's down.
#2870 [23:29] <TheBix> sometimes a 502 which I'm pretty sure means it rejected you because of DDOS protection
#2871 [23:29] <TheBix> from the current situation
#2872 [23:29] <Ookami-07> ah, rejected.
#2873 [23:30] <Ookami-07> i get that message too
#2874 [23:30] <TheBix> Its not really down per say, just, slow.
#2875 [23:30] <Ookami-07> and connection lost
#2876 [23:30] <Ookami-07> sometimes it'll say timeout after saying logging in for a while
#2877 [23:30] <Ookami-07> and sometimes it'll get to downloading terrain.
#2878 [23:30] <Ookami-07> then say connection lost
#2879 [23:30] <TheBix> yeah thats the timeout from the connection to minecraft.net I'm pretty sure
#2880 [23:30] <Ookami-07> my first time trying multiplayer, so i was worried it was me.
#2881 [23:31] <TheBix> oh and just so you know now you can't complain about me not saying thank you ;)
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#2883 [23:32] <TheBix> also I'm pretty sure if you get connection refused or connection lost
#2884 [23:32] <TheBix> its because the server is down. probably because the auth server is screwd up
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#2886 [23:32] <Ookami-07> ah
#2887 [23:32] <Ookami-07> and sometimes i get a external exception. i dunno what that means.
#2888 [23:33] <TheBix> yeah a lot of servers are offline until the auth server gets back up and bukkit is done
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#2893 [23:46] <Diablothein> Anyone else having login problems?
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#2895 [23:48] <Ackmey> Am I right in saying that a 4-clock is not supposed to burn out?
#2896 [23:48] <Ackmey> Because mine does.
#2897 [23:48] <Ackmey> Ugh.
#2898 [23:49] <Dazuro> wtf
#2899 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> If you don't do it just right
#2900 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> it will
#2901 [23:50] <Ackmey> Well I've got two designs from minecraftwiki I'm using
#2902 [23:50] <Ackmey> both burn out after about 5 seconds
#2903 [23:50] <Ackmey> I'm copying them exactly
#2904 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Which one?
#2905 [23:51] <Ackmey> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/d/d7/Clock_generators.gif
#2906 [23:52] <Ackmey> Doing both designs D and E
#2907 [23:52] <Dazuro> its telling me [INFO] Disconnecting /98.176.225.182:49489: Took too long to log in
#2908 [23:52] <Dazuro> its not even showing my username
#2909 [23:52] <Dazuro> O_o
#2910 [23:52] <Dazuro> it normally does
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#2912 [23:54] <Valium> ack, anybody know whats up with minecraft.net?
#2913 [23:56] <Diablothein> Notch tripped on a power cord, specifically the one that's to the server.
#2914 [23:56] <Kaito> um
#2915 [23:56] <Kaito> i thought a creeper found its way into the server...
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#2918 [23:58] <Diablothein> Nah, Notch tripped on a power cord, while running from said creeper
#2919 [23:58] <ssen> As a matter of fact, I thought it was because of the spiders chewing away at the cords.
#2920 [23:59] <Mathuin> So there's no way to make clothes from wool?