#MinecraftHelp > 2011-01-18
#1 [00:00] <KillSpammer> He did?
#2 [00:00] <KillSpammer> The creeper was chasing notch
#3 [00:00] <KillSpammer> To hug him
#4 [00:01] <fork> i wish i could make wool clothes
#5 [00:01] <fork> i need a purple outfit
#6 [00:01] <fork> and to be able to add a feather to my purple pimp hat
#7 [00:01] <fork> also why isnt my cadillac in minecraft yet
#8 [00:01] <Diablothein> ...
#9 [00:02] <Diablothein> Create a mod if you want it s'damn bad.
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#17 [00:48] <TheBix> hey guys why can't I get into servers or even log in?
#18 [00:48] <TheBix> I know the servers are overloaded/down but why?
#19 [00:49] <KART35|iPod> well
#20 [00:49] <TheBix> doesn't notch have the money to go buy a stable setup?
#21 [00:49] <KART35|iPod> minecraft has craploads of users
#22 [00:50] <TheBix> so did facebook but they never went down ;)
#23 [00:50] <KART35|iPod> and notch doesnt have craploads of servers
#24 [00:50] <KART35|iPod> or that much bandwidth
#25 [00:50] <KART35|iPod> if notch and facebook were to trade servers
#26 [00:50] <dopeghoti> "facebook.. never went down" BWAHAHA
#27 [00:50] <dopeghoti> fool.
#28 [00:50] <KART35|iPod> we would never have this problem
#29 [00:51] <TheBix> dopeghoti: I'm talking about when it had the same amount of users as minecraft did.
#30 [00:51] <TheBix> you do realise?
#31 [00:51] <KART35|iPod> unless there was a ddos attack
#32 [00:51] <TheBix> So, why isn't he putting his money to good use if hes got a setup like that where everyone must connect through his shittly little server to play.
#33 [00:51] <dopeghoti> When this happens outside of a closed beta, then -- then -- I _might_ think anyome might be justified in complaining.
#34 [00:52] <TheBix> ........
#35 [00:52] <TheBix> the whole point of a beta is to fucken complain and point out problems.
#36 [00:53] <TheBix> its not for some one to release a piece of shit system and for everyone to sit around and say its good.
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#38 [00:53] <dopeghoti> I'm not saying it's good, I'm saying it's not _done_.
#39 [00:53] <dopeghoti> optimizing is the _last_ phase of software development.
#40 [00:53] <TheBix> but this is not optimization
#41 [00:54] <KART35|iPod> yesh it is
#42 [00:54] <TheBix> this is stability and reliability. which is the first thing you want to get down.
#43 [00:54] <dopeghoti> of the network infrastructure? Clearly it is.
#44 [00:54] <KART35|iPod> working means working
#45 [00:54] <KART35|iPod> even if its slow
#46 [00:54] <TheBix> but its not.
#47 [00:55] <KART35|iPod> its not like notch can enable windows optimizations in a compiler or anything C++ like that either
#48 [00:55] <TheBix> ............
#49 [00:56] <TheBix> since when were we talking about optimization?
#50 [00:56] <dopeghoti> since about 12 lines ago?
#51 [00:57] <TheBix> well I'm not talking about optimization
#52 [00:57] <TheBix> I'm talking about getting something that works.
#53 [00:58] <KART35|iPod> IT DOES WORK; ITS JUST SLOW
#54 [00:58] <TheBix> I don't think you completely understand the software development meaning of optimization
#55 [00:58] <KART35|iPod> yesh i do
#56 [00:58] <TheBix> KART35|iPod: maybe for you, but for everyone else its rejecting their requests
#57 [00:58] <TheBix> KART35|iPod: good for you but that was diredted at dopeghoti
#58 [00:59] <dopeghoti> actually, it's working for me and not just KART35|iPod.
#59 [00:59] <dopeghoti> so nyah.
#60 [00:59] <TheBix> What's working?
#61 [00:59] <dopeghoti> ..Minecraft?
#62 [00:59] <KART35|iPod> i know that the win 32 libraries sre the most blocky things ever and that the stl is much more flexibl
#63 [00:59] <TheBix> you can log in?
#64 [00:59] <dopeghoti> I just did, yes.
#65 [00:59] <TheBix> oh wow
#66 [00:59] <TheBix> it worked for me :P
#67 [00:59] <KART35|iPod> yep
#68 [00:59] <KART35|iPod> just keep hitting F5
#69 [01:00] <TheBix> meh it was _actually_ down for the whole day
#70 [01:00] <TheBix> KART35|iPod: what? Hitting F5 on the minecraft launcher?
#71 [01:00] <dopeghoti> It was _actually_ not.
#72 [01:00] <KART35|iPod> oh
#73 [01:00] <KART35|iPod> well
#74 [01:00] <dopeghoti> I"ve had people in and out of my server _all day_.
#75 [01:00] <KART35|iPod> in that case
#76 [01:00] <TheBix> dopeghoti: yeah it _actually_ wasn't if you want to be technically correct
#77 [01:00] <KART35|iPod> just keep restarting it
#78 [01:00] <TheBix> but it was rejecting half of all requests and timing out a lot of people
#79 [01:01] <TheBix> so it was _actually_ crippled
#80 [01:01] <TheBix> if you want to be all technical abou it
#81 [01:01] <dopeghoti> sounds like it's not yet
#82 [01:01] <dopeghoti> (wait for it)
#83 [01:01] <dopeghoti> optimized!
#84 [01:01] <TheBix> ...........
#85 [01:02] <TheBix> if I were to run minecraft on an 8086 (somehow) would you say that minecraft is not optimized or that minecraft is not designed to run it
#86 [01:02] <TheBix> you have to understand the difference here.
#87 [01:02] <dopeghoti> I would say that _it_ is not designed to run _minecraft_. You're dancing about architecture here
#88 [01:03] <TheBix> dopeghoti: EXACTLY. So its the servers problem if they can't handle it
#89 [01:03] <TheBix> not an optimization problem.
#90 [01:03] <dopeghoti> yes. It's the server's problem because they are not yet __OPTIMEZED__ to handle heavy load.
#91 [01:04] <TheBix> okay then, what optimization are you talking about.
#92 [01:04] <dopeghoti> didn't you just say it worked for you? Why aren't you playing the game? :p
#93 [01:04] <TheBix> all the servers are broke now because of the update.
#94 [01:04] <dopeghoti> There's optimization of memory usage, CPU usage, network usage, authentication packet sized, and scads of other things
#95 [01:05] <dopeghoti> The single fact that it's Java alone means that once the procedural stuff is done, there's a metric shit-ton of optimization to do.
#96 [01:05] <TheBix> yes but you can optimize all you want and it will have no effect if the server is just not capable of you're requirements.
#97 [01:05] <KillSpammar> I sware XChat beeps for no reason every half an hour
#98 [01:05] <TheBix> dopeghoti: so you are saying you
#99 [01:05] <dopeghoti> Then there's also load-balancing of servers and a distributed infractructure _OPTIMIZED_ for bursts of heavy load
#100 [01:06] <TheBix> "know" that notch's setup can handle it
#101 [01:06] <TheBix> and you "know" that its just an optimization issue
#102 [01:06] <TheBix> because it very well could not be,.
#103 [01:06] <dopeghoti> you're "saying" that "you" "know" otherwise?
#104 [01:06] <dopeghoti> see, I can use sarcasm quotes too.
#105 [01:07] <TheBix> dopeghoti: not really. I'm just saying that in the current situation its more likely not to be.
#106 [01:07] <TheBix> I mean this crap has been going on for quite a while
#107 [01:07] <TheBix> I'm pretty sure it would've been optimized by now. But who here really knows.
#108 [01:07] <dopeghoti> as has the number of active users all swarming on one tiny hosting centre in Sweeden.
#109 [01:08] <dopeghoti> again. Optimization is _last_ on the to-do list
#110 [01:08] <dopeghoti> first, you make it go. Then, you make it go with all the accourtrements. _then_ you optimize.
#111 [01:08] <TheBix> exactly, so why not go out and buy a better system
#112 [01:08] <TheBix> its only thinking ahead.
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#114 [01:09] <dopeghoti> Because if he did that, you'd be happy, and the entire Minecraft project has been specifically designed to bring angst to you.
#115 [01:09] <TheBix> ah.
#116 [01:10] <TheBix> yes I knew something was up when I realised that no one in the minecraft communitywould be pissed off if minecraft never existsed as opposed to existed and was fantastic but broken every second week.
#117 [01:12] <brand0ng> anyone know the name of the texture pack thats similar to the tron one? old school vector graphics
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#119 [01:13] <TheBix> its just a vicious cycle of giving people a new toy to make them happy just for a little bit so they are just even more pissed off when you take it from them
#120 [01:13] <TheBix> omg auth servers are down
#121 [01:13] <dopeghoti> I dunno man, it's been pretty stable for me since before Alpha.
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#128 [01:42] <jonDatz> Would i be able to get some answers regarding bukkit on here?
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#132 [01:47] <the_late_man> what the he-
#133 [01:47] <aetherian> something's screwy with my computer
#134 [01:47] <aetherian> brb, gonna restart
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#137 [01:50] <aetherian> much better
#138 [01:50] <aetherian> anyway
#139 [01:50] <aetherian> hey guys
#140 [01:50] <fogWork> Mornin'
#141 [01:50] <aetherian> good... uh... night? I mean, it's kinda too late for evening, but saying good night sounds screwy...
#142 [01:51] <fogWork> Isn't it evening till morning? :P
#143 [01:51] <aetherian> not sure...
#144 [01:52] <aetherian> but then
#145 [01:52] <aetherian> if I logged in a t midnight
#146 [01:52] <aetherian> should I say good morning, even if I had been up for how many hours?
#147 [01:53] <aetherian> ah language, isn't it great?
#148 [01:54] <fogWork> I blame the americans
#149 [01:54] <aetherian> er yeah
#150 [01:55] <aetherian> uh... darn Americans...
#151 [01:55] <aetherian> 8cough*
#152 [01:55] <aetherian> **cough*
#153 [01:56] <aetherian> blame shakespeare
#154 [01:56] <fogWork> Being all cheaty with their dialup flatrates and what not since the early days, while us poor folk in Sweden had to pay per minute to stay connected
#155 [01:57] <aetherian> wait, what are we talking about?
#156 [01:57] <fogWork> No idea ;P
#157 [01:58] <dopeghoti> It's morning on half the planet; just round up, aetherian and fogWork. :)
#158 [01:58] <aetherian> ...
#159 [01:58] <aetherian> good morrow, fine sirs of #minecrafthelp
#160 [01:58] <aetherian> that work?
#161 [01:58] <dopeghoti> Salutaitons.
#162 [01:59] <aetherian> greetings
#163 [01:59] <dopeghoti> And how do you know whether I'm a 'sir'? (and everyone else for that matter?)
#164 [01:59] <aetherian> well, I can make it ten times meaner and sound just the same
#165 [01:59] <dopeghoti> "Cordial greetings, alleged sentient beings!"
#166 [01:59] <fogWork> Because ghoti's e-peen is measurable? :P
#167 [01:59] <aetherian> would you rather me do that?
#168 [02:00] <dopeghoti> I'm.. quite indifferent actually.
#169 [02:00] <aetherian> good morrow fine curs of #minecrafthelp
#170 [02:00] <aetherian> hehehe
#171 [02:00] <dopeghoti> That's better.
#172 [02:03] <Dazuro> i kicked someone from my server and his game crashed
#173 [02:03] <Dazuro> is that normal
#174 [02:04] <fogWork> Probably, Dazuro
#175 [02:04] <aetherian> next time
#176 [02:04] <aetherian> don't kick, simply give them a little nudge
#177 [02:05] <aetherian> anyone know any good free games, online downloadable or otherwise
#178 [02:05] <aetherian> I've played too much MC as of recent
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#180 [02:08] <Valium> !paid covet
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#182 [02:11] <aetherian> oh
#183 [02:11] <aetherian> I found the source of the virus that's been sucking up CPU a little, and heaps bunches of internets
#184 [02:12] <aetherian> norton D:
#185 [02:12] <fogWork> .... norton
#186 [02:13] <aetherian> I know really
#187 [02:13] <aetherian> well ima be playing games
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#189 [02:18] <Rait> Are there any good texure packs that's out there?
#190 [02:19] <aetherian> oh many
#191 [02:19] <fogWork> http://eldpack.com/
#192 [02:19] <fogWork> I like that one
#193 [02:19] <aetherian> not sure if it's updated
#194 [02:19] <aetherian> but some like the painterly
#195 [02:19] <aetherian> I like quandary, though I rarely use it
#196 [02:19] <Rait> Any that work good with the recent patch/update?
#197 [02:20] <fogWork> Rait: check that link
#198 [02:20] <Rait> alright.
#199 [02:20] <HuppiFluppi> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=73861
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#204 [02:24] <sprocket> does anyone know how to chat with the people on a server without being in it?
#205 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#206 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Via server console?
#207 [02:25] <sprocket> i guess so...
#208 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> You'd need to be at the server to do so...
#209 [02:25] <sprocket> i was just banned for useing speed hax
#210 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Or you install an IRC plugin
#211 [02:25] <sprocket> that i didnt use
#212 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> WoM client?
#213 [02:25] <sprocket> um...
#214 [02:25] <sprocket> no clue
#215 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Classic server?
#216 [02:25] <sprocket> tyes
#217 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> Using the world of minecraft client?
#218 [02:26] <sprocket> ?
#219 [02:26] <sprocket> i dont know
#220 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> Were you playing on classic via the browser?
#221 [02:26] <sprocket> yes
#222 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> Or off a downloaded program
#223 [02:26] <sprocket> no
#224 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> Then, I don't know.
#225 [02:26] <sprocket> sigh
#226 [02:27] <fogWork> It happens every now and then, for some obscure reason
#227 [02:27] <sprocket> thanks anyway
#228 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> People who use WoM clients, get banned for built-in hacks.
#229 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> Off the browser... *shrugs*
#230 [02:28] <fogWork> Yep, people with crappy connections get banned too, looks like they're glitching to others
#231 [02:32] <fogWork> Mornin', by the way :P
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#234 [02:33] <Solvius> goodmorning :)
#235 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#236 [02:34] <Rait> morning? o_o
#237 [02:35] <aetherian> that's what I said
#238 [02:35] <Rait> Must live pretty damn far from me then, lol.
#239 [02:35] <fogWork> It's 8.35 am
#240 [02:36] <Rait> 1:35 here.
#241 [02:36] <Rait> am
#242 [02:36] <fogWork> Ugh, back at work feels... weird
#243 [02:36] <Rait> >.< alright, i was wondering if anyone is good with skinning and if they could make me a skin?
#244 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> Have you looked at the skindex?
#245 [02:37] <fogWork> www.minecraftskins.com
#246 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> ^
#247 [02:37] <fogWork> If you can't find it there, I don't know
#248 [02:38] <Rait> I've been here, but found nothing i want, plus i kinda want one unique to me.
#249 [02:38] <fogWork> Hire an artist ;)
#250 [02:38] * fogWork heads out for a smoke
#250 [02:40] <Rait> And where abouts would i do that?
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#252 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Forums would be a good start
#253 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=27
#254 [02:42] <Rait> xD, oh yeah that would be the obvious, shh, i'm not very smart.
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#257 [02:44] <nicholaswalczak> what is the syntax to give colored wool in MP now that the specific DEC codes for different colors have been deprecated
#258 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> That's a good question.
#259 [02:45] <nicholaswalczak> good, that makes me feel better about asking for help
#260 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> I.. don't know, because the auth server's down for me
#261 [02:46] <nicholaswalczak> bummer
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#263 [02:49] <fogWork> Pathetic shitholes there are in Sweden, some guy thinks he can get 360 USD for a first gen XBox
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#266 [02:54] <fogWork> In other news, "kids pole dancing" (age 6 - 11) has spread to Sweden as well
#267 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#268 [02:55] <Slayerduck> sweet stff
#269 [02:55] <Slayerduck> stuff ;o
#270 [02:55] <Slayerduck> talent at young age is always good
#271 [02:55] <Solvius> I found out that ya can make water :) with 3 buckets of water i can make an endless suply of water :)
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#273 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#274 [02:56] <Solvius> is that a bug or on purpose ?
#275 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> That's been around for a while
#276 [02:56] <feenyx> aslong as that exists, I don't feel bad for using /item to get water sources
#277 [02:57] <feenyx> because then I'm not cheating, I'm just lazy
#278 [02:57] <Solvius> if its in the game, as supposed to, then its no cheating
#279 [02:58] <Solvius> In my next section of my farm I will try it with two buckets :)
#280 [02:59] <feenyx> plenty of people will disagree with us though :p
#281 [02:59] <Solvius> it alltough odd, making water out of nothing :) I agree there :)
#282 [02:59] <Solvius> but then blocks are hoovering in mid air.... so... :)
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#284 [03:04] * fogWork sighs
#284 [03:04] <fogWork> lazyass boss
#285 [03:04] <fogWork> "come to my office at that other location"
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#287 [03:06] <Flare> can anyone help me with my problem?
#288 [03:06] <Flare> i cant connect to minecraft.net server
#289 [03:07] <Flare> please someone help
#290 [03:09] <lemon-rev> flare
#291 [03:09] <lemon-rev> your too bright lol
#292 [03:09] <lemon-rev> now
#293 [03:09] <lemon-rev> what is it you mean you cannt connect
#294 [03:09] <Flare> huh?
#295 [03:09] <lemon-rev> on minecraft the game it self
#296 [03:09] <lemon-rev> or the acuall site
#297 [03:10] <Flare> if you log out of minecraft you cant relog in atm
#298 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> WEbsite's slow right now
#299 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> Has been for a day now
#300 [03:10] <lemon-rev> it can happen
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#302 [03:11] <Flare> well dont log out if you wanna play cos it wont let you re join
#303 [03:11] <Flare> for a while
#304 [03:11] <Flare> cya
#305 [03:11] <lemon-rev> whatnot
#306 [03:11] <lemon-rev> cya
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#311 [03:18] <akiwiguy> Hi
#312 [03:18] <lemon-rev> oh hi
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#314 [03:19] <akiwiguy> Hi oodavo
#315 [03:20] <akiwiguy> http://eltulefngapeveng.co.cc
#316 [03:20] <akiwiguy> What do you think?
#317 [03:21] <lemon-rev> what am i ment to be looking at, i dont want to go to a link someone just happens to post
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#319 [03:21] <akiwiguy> Just my work in progress website
#320 [03:22] <lemon-rev> hm
#321 [03:22] <lemon-rev> ok then
#322 [03:23] <lemon-rev> cant make up mine wtf i think on that just yet
#323 [03:26] <lemon-rev> i ment mind not mine
#324 [03:29] <OODavo> akiwiguy: Looking alright.
#325 [03:30] <OODavo> Have you considered using some HTML5 semantic markup?
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#327 [03:34] <ziggo0`> Anyone RAID smart?
#328 [03:44] * SinZ is back (gone 01:54:41)
#328 [03:44] <grand> i know some RAID
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#330 [03:50] <Slayerduck> RAID smart? isent that the exandable raid, now used on most home-nas devices ?
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#332 [03:53] * fogWork mumbles
#332 [03:53] <lemon-rev> maybe RAID smart how to avoid bug spray lol
#333 [03:54] <grand> Redundant array of independent disks
#334 [03:54] <grand> :p
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#343 [04:09] <OODavo> Can anyone with badass Linux skills help me get Minecraft going under Arch?
#344 [04:10] <Tajha> I wish I had badass Linux skills... That's why I'm here, too =/ Except my issue is that I think I broke Java trying to get sound to work again in minecraft
#345 [04:11] <OODavo> Oh dear. :(
#346 [04:11] <fogWork> What seems to be the problem, officer?
#347 [04:13] <OODavo> The launcher runs fine, but when the game starts I get an exception about LWGL. I'll pastebin it.
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#349 [04:13] * fogWork nods
#349 [04:13] <Tajha> www.minecraft.net/game causes firefox to tell me to give me the silent treatment now T_T
#350 [04:13] * Tajha removes "tell me to" from that sentence
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#351 [04:14] <the_late_man> whoa
#352 [04:14] <the_late_man> nice removal skills
#353 [04:14] <OODavo> http://minecraft.pastebin.com/WX8WSSb6
#354 [04:15] <fogWork> Got your video drivers installed correctly?
#355 [04:15] <OODavo> I'm not really sure, actually. :|
#356 [04:16] <OODavo> I got the noveau one installed.
#357 [04:16] <OODavo> I think.
#358 [04:16] <fogWork> I got the same with those drivers
#359 [04:16] <OODavo> Ah.
#360 [04:16] <fogWork> Got the proper drivers and bam, worked like a charm
#361 [04:16] <OODavo> So I'll need the proprietary ones.
#362 [04:16] <OODavo> And so I need to figure out how to install those.
#363 [04:16] * fogWork nods
#363 [04:18] <OODavo> Oh, they're just in pacman. How convenient. :)
#364 [04:18] <fogWork> ;)
#365 [04:18] <fogWork> Make sure you go through the documentation and what not properly, X might not want to start afterwards if you're unlucky
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#367 [04:20] <OODavo> Right. Thank you.
#368 [04:20] <grand> i fell like making a MC tutorial whats a good thing to do it on :/
#369 [04:21] <BarryCarlyon> cake
#370 [04:21] * OODavo apparently needs to reboot to apply the new driver.
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#371 [04:24] <j4mie> is tonight just a bad night or is minecraft always timing out so often =/
#372 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> tonight's just a bad night
#373 [04:25] <feenyx> j4mie: past day or two, really. Usually there's no such problems
#374 [04:26] <fogWork> Or a bad day
#375 [04:27] <fogWork> 502 errors on heartbeats, har har ;P
#376 [04:27] <Tajha> I don't suppose anybody can help me make Java work in Ubuntu?
#377 [04:28] <feenyx> that's sort of not why we're here. I'd recommend online forums or a linux help channel for that sort of thing :p
#378 [04:28] <feenyx> But I wouldn't be surprised if someone could help you
#379 [04:28] <Tajha> I tried that... Figured I'd stop in and ask >.o
#380 [04:29] <Tajha> It was working, but then my sound in Minecraft went out... I think I broke Java trying to fix the sound
#381 [04:30] <Tajha> But the linux help channel is a good idea and I don't know why I didn't think of that...
#382 [04:30] * Tajha searches for one
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#383 [04:32] <OODavo> Looks like MC is loading now! ^_^
#384 [04:33] <OODavo> Woah, that's weird.
#385 [04:33] <OODavo> MC is now working fine, but the texture for trees is wrong.
#386 [04:33] <feenyx> Tajha: you may have better luck on efnet or dalnet servers, mind you. I'm not really that familiar with esper
#387 [04:33] <OODavo> It looks like some kind of ore instead of trees.
#388 [04:33] <OODavo> It's weird.
#389 [04:35] * OODavo realises that perhaps it is supposed to be like that.
#389 [04:36] <OODavo> Uh oh, still getting a problem!
#390 [04:38] <OODavo> Never mind; was an outdated server.
#391 [04:38] <OODavo> All is working brilliantly. ^_^
#392 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#393 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> Congrats, I supose.
#394 [04:39] <OODavo> Well, Minecraft is working brilliantly.
#395 [04:39] <OODavo> The rest of my OS is working intermittently and crazily.
#396 [04:39] <OODavo> Arch is hard to set up.
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#398 [04:47] <fogWork> OODavo: at least it's working now? :)
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#401 [04:52] <OODavo> fogWork: It mostly isn't.
#402 [04:52] <OODavo> Minecraft is, but not much else. :P
#403 [04:52] <fogWork> ;P
#404 [04:53] <OODavo> I can't seem to get drives automounting, for example.
#405 [04:53] <OODavo> Nor can I get wicd to actually connect to my wireless.
#406 [04:53] <fogWork> Haven't tried Arch myself, using Fedora :P
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#408 [04:55] <Tajha> Argh... attempted to reinstall Java and now am getting gateway timeouts so I can't test it
#409 [04:55] * Tajha headdesks
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#411 [05:00] <OODavo> fogWork: Does Fedora require obscene amounts of configuration and package additions?
#412 [05:00] <OODavo> 'cause Arch does and it's really bugging me.
#413 [05:00] <TheBix> when will the login servers be back to normal
#414 [05:00] <fogWork> Pretty much install & go
#415 [05:00] <netherian> whoa
#416 [05:00] <TheBix> I cannot join anything
#417 [05:00] <netherian> it feels like christmastime when I listen to this song
#418 [05:01] <netherian> it's as if santa was right there singing it
#419 [05:01] <netherian> "I can see for miles"
#420 [05:01] <OODavo> When xales gets back, we are having a long talk about why the frell Arch is so stupid to install.
#421 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> Ruh-roh
#422 [05:02] <netherian> ono
#423 [05:02] <netherian> thank god I'll be gone by them
#424 [05:02] <netherian> then
#425 [05:02] <netherian> probs
#426 [05:03] <OODavo> :P
#427 [05:04] <netherian> on an unrelated topic, I swear, whenever I make an attempt at any joke, it gets ignored.
#428 [05:04] <netherian> it's too late for me
#429 [05:04] <netherian> don't pay attention to me
#430 [05:04] * GreyVulpine /ignores
#430 [05:05] <fogWork> ;)
#431 [05:05] <TheBix> hey
#432 [05:05] <netherian> :|
#433 [05:05] <TheBix> any ideas when the servers will be back
#434 [05:05] <netherian> >;\
#435 [05:05] <netherian> what soivas
#436 [05:06] * Tajha is getting Gateway Time-out from www.minecraft.net and suspects that's what TheBix is talking about
#436 [05:06] <TheBix> yes
#437 [05:06] <TheBix> some times you just get timeouts
#438 [05:07] <TheBix> and other times you just get rejected
#439 [05:07] <netherian> what the hell does en even mean
#440 [05:07] <netherian> is it like
#441 [05:07] <netherian> the server is down, now reflect on what this means?
#442 [05:07] <TheBix> what does "en" mean.
#443 [05:08] <Tajha> The server is down, on the other hand, maybe it isn't. Very Zen.
#444 [05:08] <netherian> *zen
#445 [05:08] <netherian> bix: you got what I meant
#446 [05:08] <TheBix> lol
#447 [05:08] <TheBix> zen master
#448 [05:08] <netherian> don't mess with my mind right now
#449 [05:08] <TheBix> notch should stop looking at his pacman notebook
#450 [05:09] <TheBix> and start looking at his game
#451 [05:09] <TheBix> which currently no one can play (online)
#452 [05:09] <TheBix> and whats this "That means more expensive coffee." ??? HES BLOWING HIS MONEY ON COFFEE!!!
#453 [05:10] <netherian> who is to say that we aren't online. maybe minecraft is playing you. (in russia)
#454 [05:10] <TheBix> only SOVIET russia.
#455 [05:10] <netherian> tl;dw
#456 [05:10] <Tajha> Minecraft alpha was about $14, right?
#457 [05:10] <netherian> 13-14 buckaroonies
#458 [05:11] <netherian> and by that I do not mean -1
#459 [05:11] <Guest1390138721> it's 23 now
#460 [05:11] <Tajha> Well, with 13-14 million dollars, I think he can afford to blow some money on coffee >.>
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#462 [05:11] <Guest1390138721> and you have to pay for updates too?
#463 [05:11] <netherian> no...
#464 [05:11] <netherian> only
#465 [05:11] <netherian> postrelease updates
#466 [05:12] <netherian> and that is why he gave us so much time to buy alpha
#467 [05:12] <Tajha> I got in right at the end of alpha... and actually, a friend bought it for me
#468 [05:12] <netherian> hell, we could stock up on alphas to sell on ebay
#469 [05:12] <netherian> if we wanted
#470 [05:12] <TheBix> yeah i know he has soo much money
#471 [05:13] <netherian> to buy coffee?
#472 [05:13] <TheBix> so why doesn't he go upgrade his shitty server
#473 [05:13] <netherian> hehehe
#474 [05:13] <netherian> if it keeps crashing
#475 [05:13] <Tajha> XD That would have been a brilliant idea. Why didn't you think of it before alpha was over? XD
#476 [05:13] <netherian> he must be using mac or something
#477 [05:13] <TheBix> I heard that the minecraft project is just designed to piss people off by giving them something awesome and ruining it every second week
#478 [05:14] <netherian> I have to say, the best rejection I've ever heard to a mac user was
#479 [05:15] <netherian> "I'd like to argue why PC's are better than macs, but I want to get home to do some gaming on my computer"
#480 [05:15] <TheBix> yeah my friends on a mac right now
#481 [05:16] <TheBix> tried to find some simple software for him yesterday
#482 [05:16] <TheBix> couldn't find crap.
#483 [05:16] <Tajha> There's no such thing as simple software on a mac
#484 [05:16] <netherian> heh
#485 [05:16] <Tajha> It all has to be super complicated so Steve Jobs can show off his epeen
#486 [05:17] <TheBix> but macs are x86 machines now anyway
#487 [05:17] <TheBix> so technically now macs ARE PCs
#488 [05:17] <netherian> gesp!
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#490 [05:18] <netherian> that whole hi I'm a mac commercial run was all bs
#491 [05:18] <slide> ya know if this game was by a major company and had this kinda downtime for "authentication" everyone would be complaining of too much DRM
#492 [05:18] <netherian> they keep talking about how the mac is more devoted to fun things
#493 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> People had already complained
#494 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> Remember the reddit/4chan ddos attack?
#495 [05:18] <slide> just fing log the fact that my user/pass is legit
#496 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> "We will ddos minecraft.net until notch releases an update!"
#497 [05:19] <netherian> lol
#498 [05:19] <netherian> good logic
#499 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> Idiots.
#500 [05:19] <TheBix> all mac is now is an operating system .
#501 [05:19] <netherian> and amazingly
#502 [05:19] <netherian> it looks strangely like ubuntu
#503 [05:19] <netherian> :#
#504 [05:20] <Tajha> Actually, you can make ubuntu look just like a mac.
#505 [05:20] <Tajha> My ex did it
#506 [05:20] * OODavo is currently preferring Ubuntu to Arch. He expects hardcore Linux zealots to be ashamed.
#506 [05:20] <Tajha> With the little scrolly program thing at the bottom and everything o.o
#507 [05:20] <netherian> what, you don't run every thing with only a command line :O
#508 [05:20] <netherian> sacrilege!
#509 [05:20] <Tajha> Friend who uses mac saw his screen once and was like "I thought you used Ubuntu..."
#510 [05:21] <netherian> lol
#511 [05:21] <Tajha> Okay, I definitely broke something with Java
#512 [05:21] <Tajha> T_T
#513 [05:21] <netherian> funnier yet is ever here about that one macbook that had no cooling system?
#514 [05:22] <netherian> they made it out of heat resistand stoof instead
#515 [05:22] <netherian> needless to say, core chips and whatnot were popping out
#516 [05:22] <netherian> so
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#518 [05:22] <netherian> customer service literally asked callers
#519 [05:22] <netherian> "have you tried dropping your machine?"
#520 [05:22] <netherian> in order to bang it into place
#521 [05:23] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#521 [05:23] <OODavo> Tajha: My Arch install already looks very Mac-esque.
#522 [05:23] <netherian> uh grey
#523 [05:23] <netherian> you forgot something
#524 [05:23] <OODavo> I think that's what Xfce generally looks like.
#525 [05:23] <netherian> you were working with skin bonding glue
#526 [05:24] <netherian> ugh, I want to use linux, but everything I've tried totally feths up my internet
#527 [05:24] * GreyVulpine pffts
#527 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-PC-gaming-Seacost-Radiology-multiplayer,12003.html
#528 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> "A medical server was compromised to host a Call of Duty: Black Ops multiplayer server."
#529 [05:24] <netherian> and I'd rather use a mac with internet that anything else without it
#530 [05:25] <netherian> disregard that, I'd just walk for an hour to get to the library
#531 [05:25] <netherian> oh wow grey
#532 [05:25] <Solvius> is the minecraft site down ?
#533 [05:26] <netherian> ...
#534 [05:26] * netherian facepalms also
#534 [05:26] <netherian> ow dammit
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#536 [05:26] <netherian> can someone help me get this damn hand off my face
#537 [05:26] <netherian> ugh
#538 [05:26] <netherian> I'm going to bed
#539 [05:26] <fogWork> Scandinavians? Bah
#540 [05:26] <Solvius> sleep well :)
#541 [05:26] <netherian> nighty night guys
#542 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Laters
#543 [05:26] <netherian> sleep well? ha!
#544 [05:26] <netherian> that's funny
#545 [05:26] <netherian> real funnyt
#546 [05:27] <netherian> darn t key
#547 [05:27] <Solvius> GreyVulpine is the minecraft site down ?
#548 [05:27] <fogWork> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
#549 [05:28] <Solvius> thnx its down
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#554 [05:30] <Valium> gah, why all this bad gateway garbage
#555 [05:30] <Solvius> ya cant play MP to :) lol maybe time for another adress for the database ? :)
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#558 [05:37] <slide> yay worked
#559 [05:38] <slide> well, got INTO mc.... just cant connect to my server
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#563 [05:49] <OODavo> Okay, frell Arch. Someone give me another distro to use instead.
#564 [05:51] <fogWork> EZ mode install & use or, bone-gnawing fun?
#565 [05:54] <fogWork> http://fedoraproject.org/ - http://www.ubuntu.com/ - http://www.linuxmint.com/
#566 [05:54] <fogWork> ^ quick, easy and fast
#567 [05:55] <fogWork> http://www.freebsd.org/ - http://www.netbsd.org/
#568 [05:55] <fogWork> ^ More fiddling & fun for the whole family
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#570 [05:59] <CarlosBajanca> Hello?
#571 [05:59] <OODavo> Okay, I have no idea what I want out of my distribution. Darn.
#572 [05:59] <OODavo> CarlosBajanca: Hello!
#573 [05:59] <Tajha> T_T I think I screwed Java up good... Looks like no minecraft for me for a while
#574 [06:00] <CarlosBajanca> Do you know how to submit a community forum to the official minecraft community section?
#575 [06:01] <CarlosBajanca> Anyone?
#576 [06:02] <OODavo> Unfortunately, I have no idea.
#577 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> Would need to talk to the forum mods
#578 [06:02] <OODavo> It's not the forum.
#579 [06:02] <OODavo> It's the community.jsp page on minecraft.net.
#580 [06:02] <OODavo> I think.
#581 [06:02] <CarlosBajanca> yes
#582 [06:02] <CarlosBajanca> there are spanish and russian
#583 [06:03] <Valium> this bad gateway crap has got to stop
#584 [06:03] <CarlosBajanca> Maybe talk to notch directly?
#585 [06:06] <OODavo> CarlosBajanca: That's about all I can think of.
#586 [06:06] <OODavo> Try that.
#587 [06:07] <CarlosBajanca> I tried twitter and e-mail, still no respond :x
#588 [06:08] <GLaDOS> !down minecraft.net
#589 [06:08] <CarlosBajanca> Thx anyway.
#590 [06:08] <CarlosBajanca> xya
#591 [06:08] <GLaDOS> !down minecraft.net:80
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#593 [06:08] <GLaDOS> !check minecraft.net:80
#594 [06:08] <GLaDOS> WUT
#595 [06:15] <OODavo> What is up with minecraft.net today? :(
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#597 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> <@mollstam> minecraft.net is being a bit sad now
#598 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> <@mollstam> I'm saying nice things to it atm
#599 [06:23] <OODavo> Thanks to mollstam, but it doesn't seem to be helping.
#600 [06:23] <OODavo> We need the heavy hallucinogens.
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#602 [06:29] <mortisha> anyone here?
#603 [06:29] <mortisha> it's pretty late
#604 [06:30] <Tajha> >.>
#605 [06:30] <mortisha> was wondering if minecraft was down or something
#606 [06:31] <Tajha> It does appear to be
#607 [06:31] <mortisha> ok
#608 [06:31] <mortisha> so it's not just me
#609 [06:31] <Tajha> It's sad, and mollstam is saying nice things to it to try to cheer it up... I don't think it's working, though
#610 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> <@mollstam> hmm, the server totally died..
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#612 [06:34] <OODavo> It died from nice things? :(
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#616 [06:38] <The> uhm
#617 [06:38] <The> is minecraft.net down?
#618 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> YEs
#619 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> mollstam, minecraft.net's webadmin, is taking care of it
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#621 [06:40] <OODavo> Does mollstam have any idea what the problem is? Beyond melancholy?
#622 [06:40] <so142001> Hey can someone help me out with the minecraft website?
#623 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> minecraft website is down
#624 [06:40] <mollstam> I'm basically listening to Hurt by Johnny Cash and hoping for the best
#625 [06:41] <Tajha> mollstam, you're going to talk it down from the roof, right?
#626 [06:41] <so142001> is it really grey? It pulls up in ping
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#628 [06:41] <so142001> it's been causing me problems since lastnight
#629 [06:41] <Tajha> DON'T JUMP, MINECRAFT SERVER! YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO LIVE FOR! WE ALL LOVE YOU!!
#630 [06:42] <squirt181> hello ?
#631 [06:42] <so142001> lol
#632 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> ''lo
#633 [06:42] <squirt181> ive been getting a 504 gateway timeout error when i try going to minecraft.net anyonme help me?
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#635 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> It's down
#636 [06:42] <squirt181> ???
#637 [06:44] <mollstam> minecraft.net is currently down
#638 [06:44] <Tajha> We've all been getting it... It's up on the roof sulking
#639 [06:44] <mollstam> It's eating B&J and watching sex and the city, dunno who made it upset
#640 [06:45] <squirt181> hello?
#641 [06:45] <Tajha> Hello.
#642 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#643 [06:45] * OODavo sets topic to "minecraft.net is down. mollstam is trying to cheer it up. Have patience."
#643 [06:46] <Mikau> It just needs a hug, man.
#644 [06:47] <Mikau> It just needs to feel the love.
#645 [06:48] <mollstam> It won't even answer me, how should I be able to apologize? :o
#646 [06:50] <OODavo> What did you do to the poor thing, mollstam?
#647 [06:50] <OODavo> Did you nice a process too high or something?
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#651 [07:04] <clone1018> Visiiri: Hey
#652 [07:12] <Visiiri> :S
#653 [07:13] <Mikau> Yeah, did you nice a process? ;)
#654 [07:13] <Visiiri> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=142169
#655 [07:13] <Visiiri> Too much stupidity
#656 [07:14] <Visiiri> :S
#657 [07:14] <Visiiri> oops, wrongchan is wrong
#658 [07:14] <Visiiri> In fact,
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#660 [07:17] <Tajha> =/ Getting bad gateway now
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#662 [07:19] <Mikau> This place is better than #minecraft
#663 [07:22] <Tajha> Indeed
#664 [07:22] <Tajha> It's much quieter and less.... can't think of the word I want to use
#665 [07:23] <GreyVulpine> obnoxious? spammy? troll-attracting?
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#667 [07:24] <Solvius> I want my minecraft, and I want it now yeah...
#668 [07:24] <Tajha> Those are all applicable adjectives, GreyVulpine ^.^;
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#671 [07:28] <j4mie> fuuuuuuuuuuuu- how long has minecraft been down :(
#672 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> Been slow for the past day
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#674 [07:29] <Valium> this game is really bad kids
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#676 [07:29] <Solvius> 504 Gateway Time-out grrrrrrr :)
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#679 [07:36] <Tritonio> So any speculation when minecraft will be ready and what will the sys reqs be?
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#682 [07:39] <mbentley> Tritonio: they haven't set a final release date
#683 [07:39] <mbentley> and the system requirements are definitely up in the air too
#684 [07:39] <Tritonio> i know. but no speculation at all? will it be 2 or 10 years?
#685 [07:40] <mbentley> i think it was mentioned that they hoped near the end of the year
#686 [07:40] <Tritonio> the end of 2011?
#687 [07:40] <j4mie> 2014
#688 [07:40] <mbentley> i am assuming we are all in 2011 so yes, end of this year
#689 [07:40] <Tritonio> ok. so no optimization untill then? :-)
#690 [07:40] <asdfe3> whats the easy way to copy/backup lets say folder-files of my minecraft serverfiles? in windows
#691 [07:41] <mbentley> Tritonio: http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2687176736/information-dump-incoming
#692 [07:41] <mbentley> 'We.ve written down major goals that we want to do for Minecraft release, and it looks like the release will happen sometime late this year. Hopefully we.ll be able to set a date soon.'
#693 [07:42] <Tritonio> i was going to buy it 3 days ago thinking that I would be able to play it on my netbook but then I saw the RAM reqs... and read about the upcoming optimizations.
#694 [07:42] <Tritonio> thanks for the link mbentley
#695 [07:42] <mbentley> np
#696 [07:42] <mbentley> definitely won't play on a netbook
#697 [07:42] <Tritonio> that's what I guessed too... :-(
#698 [07:43] <Tritonio> but I still don't understand why it won't.
#699 [07:43] <mbentley> the game looks very simple but because it is written in java, it is very system requirement hungry
#700 [07:43] <mbentley> there is a reason games aren't written in java :D
#701 [07:43] <Tritonio> oh that java. that why i never use it. :-D
#702 [07:45] <Tritonio> i wonder why people keep using it when python, lua etc are out there...
#703 [07:45] <Solvius> I think Notch is a java programmer :)
#704 [07:46] <Tritonio> yes. so my question is: "why are there java programmers?" :-D
#705 [07:47] <fogWork> Hell on earth, has to exist
#706 [07:47] <xmasta> to give you minecraft
#707 [07:47] <Solvius> because its there :D
#708 [07:47] <Solvius> why are there flash programmers ? :)
#709 [07:47] <Tritonio> that too...
#710 [07:47] <Solvius> grin
#711 [07:47] <fogWork> To give you fancy ads with sounds you like
#712 [07:47] <Tritonio> right...
#713 [07:47] <Solvius> lol
#714 [07:48] <Tritonio> btw has anybody tried blockland?
#715 [07:48] <Tritonio> i mean the full version
#716 [07:48] <Solvius> nope
#717 [07:49] <Solvius> something is happening in my browser :)
#718 [07:51] <Solvius> 500.000+ people are trying to log in at this moment lol
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#723 [08:06] <Tajha> =/
#724 [08:06] * Tajha wanders off for a restart, hoping that it will let her have sound in minecraft
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#725 [08:09] <fogWork> MCSharp -> MCLawl -> incredible amount of crap
#726 [08:10] <Solvius> annyone has an idea why I get unknown host on my laptop if i want to play MP
#727 [08:10] <mbentley> like when you try to connect to a server?
#728 [08:10] <Solvius> yes
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#730 [08:10] <GLaDOS> FFFFF
#731 [08:10] <mbentley> due to fail
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#733 [08:11] <GLaDOS> it cut off
#734 [08:11] <GLaDOS> ._.
#735 [08:11] <Solvius> the server is online and I can log in with another machine
#736 [08:11] <mbentley> could change all of the URLs to bit.ly urls
#737 [08:12] <OODavo> The server's down due to melancholy.
#738 [08:13] <OODavo> Well, it was.
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#741 [08:20] <Solvius> I solved it :) it was a fault of mine :) hmmm, yup... I'm off see ya guys
#742 [08:21] <GLaDOS> OODavo: wut
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#746 [08:31] <Mikau> hmm
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#748 [08:33] <weirdo> Hi, I was wondering about the lapis lazuli, do I have to create a new account, or will it appear in my old one?
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#750 [08:34] <Fluuux> im having trouble connecting to my server, and everytime i do connect my screen seems like its on the sky any recommendations?
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#753 [08:35] <weirdo> Can you get lapis lazuli from an old save, or do u have to make a new save?
#754 [08:35] <weirdo> I hope it can be gotten from the old save, I put a lot of effort into it.
#755 [08:38] <Mikau> k
#756 [08:38] <Mikau> guy messages me
#757 [08:38] <Mikau> I type have a reply
#758 [08:38] <Mikau> and he quits
#759 [08:38] <Mikau> screw him
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#763 [08:41] <Mikau> half* and it was that "weirdo" person
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#768 [08:51] <Tuppelmumin> any one here that can help me with serverproblems?
#769 [08:53] <Mikau> ?
#770 [08:55] <XYZ> hi, i bought the game 12 hours ago and it still does not work
#771 [08:55] <XYZ> i can't login
#772 [08:56] <grand> Minecraft.net is currently down
#773 [08:56] <XYZ> sometimes the minecraft.exe launcher says that it can't connect
#774 [08:56] <XYZ> sometimes fatal error occured (2): null
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#776 [08:56] <Tuppelmumin> when i try to start my server
#777 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> it says
#778 [08:57] <grand> XYZ this should be fixed when minecraft.net is back up
#779 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> [INFO] Preparing start region
#780 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> [SEVERE] Unexpected exception
#781 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> java.lang.NullPointerException
#782 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at gc.b(SourceFile:83)
#783 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at fv.a(SourceFile:1659)
#784 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at me.d(SourceFile:480)
#785 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at ly.d(SourceFile:93)
#786 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at ly.b(SourceFile:115)
#787 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at fv.c(SourceFile:417)
#788 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at fv.a(SourceFile:374)
#789 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at fv.e(SourceFile:378)
#790 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at fv.a(SourceFile:282)
#791 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at ko.a(SourceFile:52)
#792 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at fv.<init>(SourceFile:255)
#793 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at gc.<init>(SourceFile:32)
#794 [08:57] <Mikau> ...
#795 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.c(SourceFile:150)
#796 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.d(SourceFile:141)
#797 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(SourceFile:216)
#798 [08:57] <Mikau> Oh dear.
#799 [08:57] <Tuppelmumin> at cu.run(SourceFile:512)
#800 [08:57] <|System|> DUDE
#801 [08:57] <grand> use pastebin please
#802 [08:57] <|System|> FYI minecraft.net is up
#803 [08:57] <|System|> Incase you didnt know
#804 [08:58] <grand> oh
#805 [08:58] <XYZ> ok, so i just have to wait
#806 [08:58] <grand> ?
#807 [08:58] <XYZ> thx
#808 [08:58] <grand> im still getting 504
#809 [08:58] <|System|> well it was up
#810 [08:58] <mbentley> it is random
#811 [08:58] <|System|> My bad then
#812 [08:58] <|System|> sorr
#813 [08:58] <|System|> sorry*
#814 [08:58] <grand> :P
#815 [08:58] <Tuppelmumin> its up for me
#816 [08:58] <Tuppelmumin> any one know whats the problem with my serveR?
#817 [08:58] <|System|> and me :P
#818 [08:58] <Tuppelmumin> :S
#819 [08:58] <grand> not me D:
#820 [08:59] <|System|> Tumppel you dont have access to minecraft.net
#821 [08:59] <|System|> hence the error on the server
#822 [08:59] <grand> what he said :P
#823 [08:59] <XYZ> is the server right now down or not?
#824 [08:59] <mbentley> Tuppelmumin: what os? what version of java?
#825 [08:59] <Tuppelmumin> mbentley win7 64 new version of java
#826 [09:00] <Tuppelmumin> it worked yesterady
#827 [09:00] <Tuppelmumin> but it happend when i started the server today
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#829 [09:00] <|System|> Anyway i have a good quick question aswell
#830 [09:01] <XYZ> i guess with yesterday you are talking about yesterday in the usa
#831 [09:01] <mbentley> Tuppelmumin: sure you are running server version 1.2_01? any mods?
#832 [09:02] <Tuppelmumin> mbentley yep iam, or i was yesterday and havent done anything with it over the night and i have no mods on the server
#833 [09:02] <|System|> Apperently i ran out of memory on minecraft SP is there a way to give it a boost up ?
#834 [09:02] <mbentley> can you check task manager to see if you have any other 'java' processes that didn't stop completely?
#835 [09:03] <Tuppelmumin> non there
#836 [09:03] <Tuppelmumin> all are closed
#837 [09:03] <Tuppelmumin> the thing is, if i start a new world it works
#838 [09:04] <|System|> currupted ap ?
#839 [09:04] <|System|> map*
#840 [09:04] <mbentley> Tuppelmumin: another solution is to try to open your world in mcedit and then save it (take a backup first of course)
#841 [09:04] <Tuppelmumin> mbentley mcedit?
#842 [09:04] <Tuppelmumin> im new at this :P
#843 [09:04] <mbentley> it is a map editor
#844 [09:05] <mbentley> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/unexpected_exception_java_lang_nullpointerexception
#845 [09:05] <mbentley> look at the very last reply at the bottom
#846 [09:05] <mbentley> but it is definitely world corruption
#847 [09:05] <Tuppelmumin> okej will try it
#848 [09:05] <Tuppelmumin> it worked when i shut the computer off yesterday
#849 [09:06] <Tuppelmumin> but not to day:S
#850 [09:06] <Tuppelmumin> but will try this
#851 [09:06] <mbentley> did you make sure to stop the server before shutting down your computer?
#852 [09:07] <Tuppelmumin> yeah i think i did, maybe it still was running in the backround
#853 [09:07] <Tuppelmumin> but i know that i did do a /save-all
#854 [09:07] <mbentley> definitely need to make sure the server is completely stopped
#855 [09:07] <Tuppelmumin> okej
#856 [09:07] <mbentley> windows might try to force it to close and it might corrupt the world
#857 [09:09] <Tuppelmumin> i could run it in the mapeditor thing
#858 [09:09] <Tuppelmumin> but how do i save it now ?
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#860 [09:10] <mbentley> what do you mean?
#861 [09:10] <mbentley> how do you save it now?
#862 [09:11] <Tuppelmumin> i ment in the editor
#863 [09:11] <Tuppelmumin> but i found it
#864 [09:11] <Tuppelmumin> and i think it works now
#865 [09:11] <mbentley> ok
#866 [09:11] <Tuppelmumin> but now my minecraft wont start -.-
#867 [09:11] <Tuppelmumin> ^^
#868 [09:11] <mbentley> need a little more info...
#869 [09:12] <mbentley> i imagine it gives you an error
#870 [09:12] <Tuppelmumin> no it just lagged:P
#871 [09:13] <Tuppelmumin> but i got it running
#872 [09:13] <Tuppelmumin> will try the server thing now
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#874 [09:16] <age> Hi! I need a bit of advice on rails routing. Is it possible to make them switch as shown on this image: http://ompldr.org/vNzFqcA ? Currently it switches between left and upper/lower parts no matter how I construct it.
#875 [09:21] <mbentley> age: no, there isn't a way around that.
#876 [09:21] <mbentley> you would have to make a loop around it to bypass it (to go straight)
#877 [09:22] <OODavo> [B
#878 [09:22] <OODavo> [B
#879 [09:23] <OODavo> My arrow keys are not behaving.
#880 [09:23] <OODavo> :|
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#882 [09:25] <age> mbentley: thanks!
#883 [09:26] <mbentley> age: np
#884 [09:27] <Tuppelmumin> mbentley it worked :D
#885 [09:27] <Tuppelmumin> thx for help
#886 [09:27] <mbentley> no prob
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#889 [09:36] <Valium> still broken?
#890 [09:38] <mbentley> is what still broken?
#891 [09:38] <Valium> minecraft.net
#892 [09:38] <Valium> I'd check but I cant
#893 [09:39] <mbentley> works randomly
#894 [09:39] <Valium> ah, alright then
#895 [09:46] <Uni553> hey is it possible for a dungeon to be near adminium
#896 [09:46] <Uni553> ?
#897 [09:46] <Uni553> has anyone ever seen that
#898 [09:46] <Valium> do it
#899 [09:46] <Uni553> just was wonderin heh
#900 [09:46] <Uni553> i doubt this is a dungeon but never know
#901 [09:47] <Valium> sorry, that was meant for a different keyboard
#902 [09:47] <Valium> you'll know a dungeon by the mossy stone
#903 [09:47] <Uni553> well yeah
#904 [09:47] <Uni553> i know
#905 [09:47] <Uni553> i was just curious as to if anyones ever seen one close to adminum layer
#906 [09:48] <Uni553> hell my base is ontop of a former dungeon
#907 [09:48] <Uni553> and oh shi skeletons
#908 [09:48] <GLaDOS> !check minecraft.net:80
#909 [09:48] <GLaDOS> k
#910 [09:50] <Valium> GLaDOS: what exactly does the bot do for that check?
#911 [09:51] <GLaDOS> check if it gets http header .-.
#912 [09:51] <Valium> should rewrite it to check for HTTP Status code
#913 [09:52] <Valium> I mean sure, minecraft.net is up, but with 502
#914 [09:53] <mbentley> well that is more to check for server status
#915 [09:53] <mbentley> not to necessarily check websites
#916 [09:53] <Valium> so basically, sees if the port is open
#917 [09:53] <mbentley> yeah, just checks to see if something responds at all
#918 [09:53] <Valium> and if a TCP connection is possible
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#922 [10:00] <LatHans> I run a server on linux, and I wonder if there is any easy way to control the server from a script. I want to make the server run save-off before I take backup of the world directory
#923 [10:01] <mbentley> LatHans: yes there is
#924 [10:01] <mbentley> do you use screen?
#925 [10:02] <LatHans> yes
#926 [10:03] <mbentley> screen -S <sn> -p <sn> -X stuff "`echo -e \"stop\r\"`"
#927 [10:03] <mbentley> replace <sn> with the name you give your screen session
#928 [10:03] <mbentley> and replace stop with the command
#929 [10:03] <mbentley> you must leave everything else the same
#930 [10:04] <mbentley> this is how i start my server >> screen -S <sn> -t <sn> -d -m java -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#931 [10:04] <LatHans> I see, that would probably work :)
#932 [10:04] <mbentley> that starts a screen session in the background and names it <sn>
#933 [10:05] <mbentley> i have everything automated on my server that way
#934 [10:05] <LatHans> I have five servers running in different windows in screen, but I suppose that the -p chooses which window
#935 [10:05] <LatHans> thanks
#936 [10:05] <mbentley> right, as long as you give them names, it works
#937 [10:05] <mbentley> if you use PIDs they will change
#938 [10:05] <Smiley> hummm
#939 [10:05] <LatHans> yeah
#940 [10:05] <mbentley> but i am sure you might have noticed that :)
#941 [10:05] <Smiley> mbentley: have you managed to "echo" a echo command to the screen session?
#942 [10:06] <Smiley> to make it issue a message on the server?
#943 [10:06] <mbentley> sure
#944 [10:06] * Smiley was playingwith it previously, i got it starting/shutting down
#944 [10:06] <mbentley> screen -S <sn> -p <sn> -X stuff "`echo -e \"say stinky cheese\r\"`"
#945 [10:06] <Smiley> but never managed to make the server "say" anything before shutting down
#946 [10:06] <Smiley> hummm
#947 [10:06] <mbentley> that will output 'stinky cheese' to the server
#948 [10:06] <Smiley> ill have to try it again once everything else is up and running
#949 [10:12] <LatHans> mbentley: worked fine:)
#950 [10:12] <mbentley> cool
#951 [10:15] <LatHans> neat-o
#952 [10:15] <LatHans> is it a good idea to run save-all first?
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#954 [10:16] <Valium> I wonder if they will ever implement SSL.
#955 [10:16] <mbentley> before you do what LatHans ?
#956 [10:17] <LatHans> before I run save-off and take a backup the world folder
#957 [10:17] <mbentley> yes
#958 [10:17] <mbentley> i do a save-all, save-off, then run my backup script and then a save-on
#959 [10:17] <LatHans> did you put a sleep in the script after save-all? I guess it needs a little moment to actually save the files...
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#961 [10:19] <SimonJet> I need help! my trouble opening up minecraft just started.. it just says "Updating Minecraft" and "Done Loading", with a progressbar that never completes.. I had no trouble just moments, and even a restart ago
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#963 [10:20] <Uni553> yay for lava getting me while trying to get obsidian so lost a diamond axe and the few obsidian i actually got lol
#964 [10:20] <Uni553> i thought of making a nether portal but i guess not lol
#965 [10:21] <Uni553> on my new map
#966 [10:22] <LatHans> Uni553: why don't you just make a few buckets and put lava in the buckets and water in one of them, use dirt or something to build a form for the portal, empty the lava bucket, and then place water above it.. instant obsidian! then put the water back in the bucket, and empty the next bucket of lava where you want the next obsidian block
#967 [10:22] <LatHans> one block of the time
#968 [10:22] <mbentley> SimonJet: what os?
#969 [10:22] <SimonJet> osx
#970 [10:23] <LatHans> that way you will not need any diamond tools while having a lot lower risk of getting killed by the lava;)
#971 [10:23] <SimonJet> ive had no trouble so far - only trouble connecting to minecraft.net, but that seems generic
#972 [10:23] <mbentley> SimonJet: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorial/Minecraft_Help_FAQ#Mac_OSX
#973 [10:24] <Uni553> LatHans well i did once try that it didnt turn out well lol
#974 [10:24] <SimonJet> cool, just found the applications support folder, and deleted the minecraft content
#975 [10:24] <Uni553> i could again i knopw
#976 [10:24] <LatHans> Uni553: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUxhO9VLKPY
#977 [10:24] <Uni553> yeah thanks
#978 [10:25] <Uni553> i did try to do that once
#979 [10:25] <Uni553> on an old map
#980 [10:25] <LatHans> worked very well for me:)
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#983 [10:34] <|System|> I heard that Minecraft is getting DDOS Attacked by 4Chan again
#984 [10:34] <|System|> apperently///
#985 [10:34] <|System|> apperently... *
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#987 [10:35] <Valium> |System|: nah, you would know if it was DDoS
#988 [10:35] <|System|> Coool
#989 [10:36] <|System|> Kane_Hart online ??
#990 [10:36] <|System|> nah i just WhoIs him
#991 [10:38] <Uni553> yeah nooooooow it wants to work lol
#992 [10:38] <Uni553> guess i did it slightly dif than the video
#993 [10:38] <Uni553> system oh really?
#994 [10:38] <Uni553> but i dont think it's all of 4chan just some idiots on there
#995 [10:39] <Uni553> suprisingly enough there ARE some good areas/people on that site
#996 [10:49] <|System|> http://twitter.com/mollstam/status/27333310732570624
#997 [10:49] <|System|> TIS ALL GOOD
#998 [10:49] <|System|> THE LORD IS AWARE
#999 [10:49] <|System|> XD
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#1001 [10:58] <Valium> !check 98.194.25.177:25565
#1002 [10:59] <ConMan8> !check
#1003 [11:00] <ConMan8> hah AuBot can't get my hostname
#1004 [11:01] <mbentley> ConMan8: actually it was changed to resolve to ip addresses
#1005 [11:01] <mbentley> !check
#1006 [11:01] <mbentley> !check google:80
#1007 [11:01] <mbentley> !check google
#1008 [11:01] <mbentley> err
#1009 [11:02] <mbentley> !check google.com
#1010 [11:02] <mbentley> ther
#1011 [11:02] <mbentley> *there :p
#1012 [11:02] <mbentley> i'm an idiot...
#1013 [11:02] <ConMan8> you faail
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#1015 [11:09] <Uni553> yay i want lightstone and it's far away near all the monsters lol
#1016 [11:09] <Uni553> here goes
#1017 [11:10] <LatHans> I want the portal to work.. in multiplayer!
#1018 [11:10] <xolotl> LatHans: yeah, don't we all.
#1019 [11:13] <LatHans> :p
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#1023 [11:20] <pheleas_frog> Hi i have a Question, when i buy Minecraft beta will be the next updates and content free for download?
#1024 [11:21] <Mikau> You will get all of the updates until the final release.
#1025 [11:21] <Uni553> isnt only alpha people that get expansion packs though
#1026 [11:21] * Uni553 got it around march i think
#1026 [11:21] <Mikau> I'm not 100% if it includes the final release copy(I'm guessing it does), but only alpha accounts will get the add-ons for free
#1027 [11:22] <Mikau> An example would be "zombie mode"
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#1029 [11:22] <Uni553> wasnt there gonna be a possible doom map import thing
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#1031 [11:22] <pheleas_frog> :O I will pay 5€ more and wouldn't get free content :C Bad
#1032 [11:24] <Mikau> Yeah, well he should have paid earlier
#1033 [11:24] <Mikau> cheap ass
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#1035 [11:25] <Uni553> yep it was really cheap alpha buy
#1036 [11:25] <Uni553> for a long time
#1037 [11:25] <Valium> hes gonna have issues if he doesnt let beta folks have everything up to the first expansion.
#1038 [11:25] <mbentley> beta copies include the final release
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#1040 [11:26] <Uni553> man was i nuts trying to grab some lightstone but i survived but only could craft 1 light block
#1041 [11:26] <Uni553> lol
#1042 [11:26] <Uni553> the nether should be called the holy shit run run run RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN zone
#1043 [11:26] <Uni553> yeah i hate doing the nether with mobs on
#1044 [11:27] <Uni553> it's insanely scary
#1045 [11:27] <Uni553> lol
#1046 [11:28] <Uni553> ghasts sound like a dead baby crying
#1047 [11:30] <NinjaKirby> I don't see how he can support that promise about the free content.
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#1049 [11:30] <Uni553> i feel im more creative when im on a smp server that lets me summon items etc
#1050 [11:30] <Uni553> though
#1051 [11:30] <Uni553> ive made some awesome houses and skyscrapers
#1052 [11:30] <NinjaKirby> It seems like the sorta promise that seems feasable to begin with, but when the game grows to even larger fanbase, financially, and the division of customers won't work
#1053 [11:30] <Uni553> in single player it's kinda meh what i make in comparison
#1054 [11:30] <Uni553> it seems
#1055 [11:31] <spdorsey> Does anyone here know of an edit/hack/mod that sill increase my viewing distance?
#1056 [11:31] <Uni553> spdorsey i think it's a game limit
#1057 [11:31] <Uni553> wont go farther than the farest settings
#1058 [11:31] <spdorsey> :(
#1059 [11:31] <Uni553> i think i saw that somewhere
#1060 [11:31] <NinjaKirby> Or a limitation of the JRE to handle that much information
#1061 [11:32] <NinjaKirby> Grindfest
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#1068 [11:41] <BurnZeZ> We don't provide support for mods? Since when?
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#1070 [11:42] <Kealper> BurnZeZ: never have
#1071 [11:42] <Valium> since they put it in the rules I suppose
#1072 [11:42] <Kealper> they are just too much of a PITA to support
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#1074 [11:43] <BurnZeZ> Ah.
#1075 [11:43] <thereddeh> lo my lovelies
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#1077 [11:43] <BurnZeZ> It's just that I always saw mod discussion here. So I was confused.
#1078 [11:43] <Kealper> i mean....if you want to help someone with a mod, go for it, but no one should come to expect mod help in here
#1079 [11:44] <Kealper> talking of mods is not banned from here, they just won't get official tech support in here, unless someone who knows that mod happens to be looking in here when the question about it is asked
#1080 [11:44] <Bryan_> can somebody help me with a java question about instance variables? (i know its off topic but i know there's some smart guys in here)
#1081 [11:45] * Kealper doesn't code in Java :/
#1081 [11:45] <BurnZeZ> Kealper: Got it.
#1082 [11:45] <spdorsey> phone rang - I'm back now
#1083 [11:45] <spdorsey> I have a 30" display and a 12-core Mac with a 1GB video card. I'd love to find a way to increase my viewing distance
#1084 [11:45] <BurnZeZ> Kealper: Oh, that makes more sense.
#1085 [11:45] <spdorsey> too bad if it's a Java limir
#1086 [11:45] <spdorsey> limit
#1087 [11:45] <BurnZeZ> I doubt that.
#1088 [11:45] <xolotl> spdorsey: It's, um, limited by the code.
#1089 [11:45] <BurnZeZ> More like a CPU limit.
#1090 [11:45] <BurnZeZ> :D
#1091 [11:45] <Kealper> not a Java limit, it's a hard limit set in minecraft
#1092 [11:45] <flykt> Hi. I'm having a kindof weird problem, my minecraft continously disconnects me from internet, and the only way to get back online is to reboot the computer. I tried to google it and more ppl seemed to be having the problem but I didn't find a solution. is there a way to fix this?
#1093 [11:45] <spdorsey> sucks
#1094 [11:46] <BurnZeZ> flykt: OS?
#1095 [11:46] <flykt> win xp. and yes I know, it only seems to affect xp.
#1096 [11:46] <spdorsey> Well, I have 12 CPUs at 2.93GHz each
#1097 [11:46] <Manuel> Anybody know when changing skin will be available again on the official web?
#1098 [11:46] <BurnZeZ> spdorsey: Whoa. Which CPU you got?
#1099 [11:46] <spdorsey> heh
#1100 [11:46] <spdorsey> I have a dual Xeon Mac 12-core (24 thread)
#1101 [11:46] <spdorsey> 24GB RAM
#1102 [11:47] <BurnZeZ> Nice.
#1103 [11:47] <spdorsey> Boots OS X and Win 7
#1104 [11:47] <spdorsey> it's great
#1105 [11:47] <spdorsey> but I just wish MC wasn't so limited. I'd love a performance panel in the game. Oh well.
#1106 [11:47] <BurnZeZ> I'm getting 24GB ram and i7 2600k. Run it @4.5 avg GHz.
#1107 [11:47] <spdorsey> Niiiice
#1108 [11:47] <BurnZeZ> Wish they would dish out the dual cpu mobos. :(
#1109 [11:47] <thereddeh> do portals work yet in mp?
#1110 [11:47] <BurnZeZ> 2 2600ks = win.
#1111 [11:47] <spdorsey> yup
#1112 [11:48] <mbentley> thereddeh: no
#1113 [11:48] <spdorsey> I'd like to maximize the performance of the game as much as I can - I have clock cycles to spare.
#1114 [11:48] <spdorsey> shit - phone rang again one sec
#1115 [11:48] <BurnZeZ> Wait, how many threads does Minecraft run?
#1116 [11:48] <BurnZeZ> Anyone know?
#1117 [11:48] <mbentley> 1
#1118 [11:49] <BurnZeZ> It's definitely more than 1.
#1119 [11:49] <ConMan8> one
#1120 [11:50] <BurnZeZ> If it was 1 thread, how could multiple cpus run it?
#1121 [11:50] <ConMan8> with the one
#1122 [11:51] <BurnZeZ> Nonono.
#1123 [11:51] <BurnZeZ> Alright, I found a modder, his answer was "there are at least two threads, one for the main game cycle, one for timer, and other 'helpers' which come and go as necessary"
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#1125 [11:53] <BurnZeZ> Notch should throw threads everywhere.
#1126 [11:53] <BurnZeZ> :D
#1127 [11:53] <Kyron> hi
#1128 [11:53] <BurnZeZ> Sup.
#1129 [11:53] <Kyron> im new here
#1130 [11:53] <Kyron> but using MC for a long time :P
#1131 [11:53] <BurnZeZ> Cool.
#1132 [11:53] <Kyron> Indeed.
#1133 [11:54] <BurnZeZ> Hmm.
#1134 [11:54] <BurnZeZ> Norway.
#1135 [11:54] <Kyron> the Netherlands.
#1136 [11:54] <BurnZeZ> Klose.
#1137 [11:54] <BurnZeZ> :D
#1138 [11:54] <BurnZeZ> Ok not really.
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#1140 [11:58] <GoombaMan4> i was on a server then i left i want to get back to it but i can not remember the IP address
#1141 [11:59] <xolotl> GoombaMan4: Minecraft will remember the most recently-used server address
#1142 [11:59] <xolotl> GoombaMan4: If you haven't joined somewhere else inbetween, just click "Multiplayer" and the old value should still be there
#1143 [11:59] <GoombaMan4> i was using mine craft classic
#1144 [11:59] <xolotl> oh
#1145 [12:00] <xolotl> Well I'm not sure how we're supposed to know what server you had been on. :)
#1146 [12:00] <xolotl> Check your browser history maybe?
#1147 [12:00] <ConMan8> then it wasn't an IP address to remember
#1148 [12:00] <ConMan8> :|
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#1152 [12:19] <NinjaKirby> God damnit, this glitching over the top of Fences is getting annoying
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#1155 [12:21] <xales> .kick #minecrafthelp AuBot I am the better bot!
#1156 [12:21] <xales> .kick #minecrafthelp AuBot I am the better bot!
#1157 [12:21] <NinjaKirby> Uh, taw
#1158 [12:21] <xales> stupid piece of garbage
#1159 [12:21] <xales> D:
#1160 [12:22] <xales> .kick #minecrafthelp AuBot
#1161 [12:22] * VoteSlave kicked AuBot from #minecrafthelp (Reason: XalesBot)
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#1163 [12:22] <NinjaKirby> (Suggesting there is intelligent pieces of garbage)
#1164 [12:22] <thereddeh> at what height can u find the new blue ore stuff
#1165 [12:23] <dopeghoti> Tsk. Autorejoin, Kealper. I am dissapoint.
#1166 [12:23] <NinjaKirby> I've heard around the Redstone layer
#1167 [12:23] <dopeghoti> thereddeh: IIRC, at the same depth as Gold.
#1168 [12:23] <dopeghoti> I have also heard as Redstone.
#1169 [12:23] <NinjaKirby> Or that even
#1170 [12:23] <NinjaKirby> Or this even
#1171 [12:23] <thereddeh> at what height can u find the old gold ore stuff
#1172 [12:23] <dopeghoti> But I hear most often, Gold depths with RS commonality
#1173 [12:24] <dopeghoti> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Ore
#1174 [12:24] <xales> .reload
#1175 [12:24] <VoteSlave> Reloaded scripts
#1176 [12:24] <thereddeh> ahh need to go up ;p
#1177 [12:24] <lukegb> .relooo
#1178 [12:24] <xales> .kick #minecrafthelp AuBot I am the better bot!
#1179 [12:24] <thereddeh> for gold, :x
#1180 [12:24] <lukegb> ...
#1181 [12:24] <xales> goddamnit
#1182 [12:24] <xales> D:
#1183 [12:24] <mollstam> :D
#1184 [12:24] <dopeghoti> thereddeh: not really, the ores have no lower bound
#1185 [12:25] <lukegb> you have to specify the channel?...
#1186 [12:25] <dopeghoti> you will find coal all the way down to Adminium.
#1187 [12:25] <ConMan8> .kick #minecrafthelp xales you fail
#1188 [12:25] <dopeghoti> lukegb: entities can be on more than one channel in IRC, dontchaknow
#1189 [12:25] <xales> .kick #minecrafthelp Conman8 nope
#1190 [12:25] * VoteSlave kicked ConMan8 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: nope)
#1191 [12:25] <xales> LOL
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#1193 [12:25] <lukegb> dopeghoti: yeah, but that should be optional
#1194 [12:25] <xales> lukegb: I was lazy when I wrote it
#1195 [12:25] <lukegb> As in, you can specify a different channel, but it defaults to this one ;D
#1196 [12:25] <lukegb> Why VoteSlave?
#1197 [12:26] <xales> Its for voting in another channel
#1198 [12:26] <dopeghoti> it's slaved to xales' unitary vote?
#1199 [12:26] <dopeghoti> ..or that
#1200 [12:26] <lukegb> :P
#1201 [12:26] <xales> .reload
#1202 [12:26] <VoteSlave> Reloaded scripts
#1203 [12:26] <xales> actually, i'll fix the other thing too
#1204 [12:26] * dopeghoti had a long-running bot called AcroBot that started out as an Acrophobia host, and became diversified enough that eventually became HFBot.
#1204 [12:27] <dopeghoti> s/eventually/it &/
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#1206 [12:28] <xales> .reload
#1207 [12:28] <VoteSlave> Reloaded scripts
#1208 [12:28] * xales expected that to make it crash
#1208 [12:28] <xales> .kick AuBot I am the better bot!
#1209 [12:28] <xales> .____.
#1210 [12:29] <xales> ERROR 403: apocalypse.esper.net: VoteSlave ##MineCraftHelp No such channel
#1211 [12:29] <xales> :(
#1212 [12:29] <ConMan8> lol wut
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#1214 [12:29] <DopeGhoti> default-prefixing a '#' to #minecrafthelp?
#1215 [12:29] <DopeGhoti> '#' + $channel ?
#1216 [12:30] <DopeGhoti> FCVO '$'
#1217 [12:30] <xales> .reload
#1218 [12:30] <VoteSlave> Reloaded scripts
#1219 [12:30] <ConMan8> /join ##MineCraftHelp
#1220 [12:30] <xales> .kick AuBot I am the better bot!
#1221 [12:30] * VoteSlave kicked xales from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: VoteSlave)
#1222 [12:30] <mollstam> gz
#1223 [12:30] <NinjaKirby> And I thought I was beginning to understand IRC, until I read all that
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#1225 [12:30] * VoteSlave kicked xales from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: AutoKick)
#1226 [12:31] <ConMan8> \o/
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#1228 [12:31] <mollstam> irc is like two boats on an ocean
#1229 [12:31] <ConMan8> \o/
#1230 [12:31] <DopeGhoti> haha
#1231 [12:31] <xales> How does it do that ._.
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#1233 [12:31] * xales is confus
#1233 [12:31] <DopeGhoti> xales: it looks like your bot permakicks people whom you've .kicked
#1234 [12:32] <xales> No, it permakicks people who I've set on the autokick list
#1235 [12:32] <xales> and I just looked...I didn't get added to that
#1236 [12:32] <xales> unless I forgot to make it flush the file
#1237 [12:32] <xales> >.>
#1238 [12:32] <DopeGhoti> and yet
#1239 [12:32] <ConMan8> Your bot is insane
#1240 [12:33] <xales> ahahaha, stupid stupid thing
#1241 [12:33] * xales is reusing flags like a fucktard
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#1243 [12:35] <xales> .kick AuBot I'm the better bot!
#1244 [12:35] <VoteSlave> Debugging in the channel because I'm cool like that. Kick xales from #MineCraftHelp for VoteSlave
#1245 [12:35] <xales> ...
#1246 [12:36] <mollstam> well there's your problem
#1247 [12:36] <ConMan8> .kick xales you fail!
#1248 [12:36] <xales> .reload
#1249 [12:36] <VoteSlave> Reloaded scripts
#1250 [12:36] <xales> .kick AuBot I'm the better bot!
#1251 [12:37] <xales> .kick #minecrafthelp AuBot I'm the better bot!
#1252 [12:37] <VoteSlave> Debugging in the channel because I'm cool like that. Kick AuBot from #minecrafthelp for I'm the better bot!
#1253 [12:37] * xales loves commenting large blocks of code
#1253 [12:37] <xales> .reload
#1254 [12:37] <VoteSlave> Reloaded scripts
#1255 [12:37] <xales> .kick #minecrafthelp AuBot I'm the better bot!
#1256 [12:37] <xales> .kick #minecrafthelp AuBot I'm the better bot!
#1257 [12:37] * VoteSlave kicked AuBot from #minecrafthelp (Reason: I'm the better bot!)
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#1259 [12:37] <lukegb> Finally.
#1260 [12:38] * xales is satisfied now
#1260 [12:38] * xales kicked VoteSlave from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: GTFO my channel)
#1261 [12:38] <xales> It seems that bot is a danger to society :'(
#1262 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> so.. anyone need #minecrafthelp?
#1263 [12:39] <ConMan8> nuke it.
#1264 [12:39] * xales raises hand
#1264 [12:39] <xales> hi h0w duz i pleh srvivl 4 fr33
#1265 [12:39] <DopeGhoti> sorry, I don't speak Jive.
#1266 [12:40] <xales> I'm sorry for you
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#1268 [12:40] * xales doesn't want you to worry, I speak Mibbit!
#1268 [12:40] <mib_y4x090> Is anyone here?
#1269 [12:40] <xales> Nope
#1270 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> Perhaps, mib_y4x090.
#1271 [12:40] <mib_y4x090> ....
#1272 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> What assistance can we render you?
#1273 [12:41] <mib_y4x090> I need help a technical side
#1274 [12:41] <mib_y4x090> are you just players?
#1275 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> Could you be more.. specific?
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#1277 [12:41] <mib_y4x090> Ok its about saves
#1278 [12:41] * DopeGhoti is also a server administrator, amongst many other things.
#1278 [12:42] <mib_y4x090> Do you know how to recover saves ive got en here but i cant get em on game???
#1279 [12:42] * ConMan8 is also an omnipotent being, amongst many other things.
#1279 [12:42] <xales> mib_y4x090: What happens when you try to load them?
#1280 [12:42] <mib_y4x090> Note, its says there empty
#1281 [12:43] <xales> The save would be corrupt then - you could try resaving them with a map editor, but there is no guarantee that that will work
#1282 [12:43] <mib_y4x090> I need to send you this screen shot anyway???
#1283 [12:43] <mib_y4x090> Its the only file i have lkeft
#1284 [12:43] <mib_y4x090> there not currupt
#1285 [12:44] <xales> ...what isn't corrupt
#1286 [12:44] <mib_y4x090> the saves
#1287 [12:44] <xales> If they aren't showing up in the world list but they are in the correct place, then they are corrupt
#1288 [12:44] <mib_y4x090> have you got an e-mail or somit i can send this screen to
#1289 [12:44] * fogwraith yawns
#1289 [12:45] <xales> How is a screen show going to help? We can't magically restore your world from a screenshot
#1290 [12:45] <mib_y4x090> noo its the only files ive got left damn it....
#1291 [12:45] <xales> ...
#1292 [12:45] <xales> What do you expect us to do with a screenshot?
#1293 [12:46] <mib_y4x090> Ive got bin,resources,saves,screenshots, texture packs, last login and options and thats it!!!
#1294 [12:46] <mib_y4x090> No game....
#1295 [12:46] <xales> Uh, the game is in the bin folder?
#1296 [12:47] <mib_y4x090> Ithink so.... but when i load it the prifles arnt on there...
#1297 [12:47] <xales> What is your username?
#1298 [12:47] <xales> for minecraft
#1299 [12:47] <fogwraith> "and we’ll have a separate server just to handle game logins and auth requests."
#1300 [12:47] <fogwraith> Haha, it's about time
#1301 [12:47] <mib_y4x090> PandaC0mmander
#1302 [12:48] <xales> And what exactly is the problem again?
#1303 [12:48] <xales> You go to play but there are no worlds in the list?
#1304 [12:48] <mib_y4x090> I cant load the saves it just says empty
#1305 [12:48] <xales> Then the saves are corrupt or missing
#1306 [12:48] <fogwraith> "The file format is still in early testing, but it’s looking somewhat promising, except for it taking up a bit too much space. It’s faster, though." < *How* much bigger? Terabyte size? Damn you, Notch!
#1307 [12:49] <xales> Exabyte, fogwraith
#1308 [12:49] <fogwraith> Wooh!
#1309 [12:49] <mib_y4x090> IVE GOT THE SAVES!!!!!
#1310 [12:49] <mib_y4x090> but i need to ink the saves back to the game....
#1311 [12:49] <xales> If the saves are in the world folder but the game doesn't find them
#1312 [12:49] <xales> THEN THEY ARE CORRUPT
#1313 [12:50] <mib_y4x090> THERE NOT...
#1314 [12:50] <xales> How do you know?
#1315 [12:50] <mib_y4x090> BECAUSE I ACCIDETLY DELETED THE GAME YESTERDAY (i just forgot that)
#1316 [12:50] * Shadow386 corrupts xales's files
#1316 [12:50] <xales> You can stop using caps now
#1317 [12:50] <mib_y4x090> ok
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#1319 [12:51] <xales> The saves go in the world folder. If the game does not find them, then they are corrupt
#1320 [12:51] <xolotl> You know your files aren't corrupt because you accidentally deleted the game?
#1321 [12:51] <xales> *saves folder
#1322 [12:51] <xolotl> ...
#1323 [12:51] <mib_y4x090> Yea but where do i copy em to?
#1324 [12:51] <xales> %appdata%/.minecraft/saves
#1325 [12:51] <DopeGhoti> mib_y4x090: they live in .minecraft/saves/world#, where '#' is an integer from one to five.
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#1327 [12:52] * xales has to go now, have fun DopeGhoti
#1327 [12:52] <ConMan8> Try loading/starting a new game on the world slot, it might get your world back
#1328 [12:54] <mib_y4x090> ok ill try that coonman
#1329 [12:54] <mib_y4x090> conman
#1330 [12:54] <mib_y4x090> damn broken keyboard
#1331 [12:55] <thereddeh> some1 pass the idea on to notch to enable normal torches to be turned on and off as well by redstone.. i want a usefull lightswitch ;p
#1332 [12:55] <mib_y4x090> that be cool
#1333 [12:55] <BarryCarlyon> But torches burn coal. Its not logical.
#1334 [12:55] <thereddeh> some other lamp then ;p
#1335 [12:56] <BarryCarlyon> Redstone torch?
#1336 [12:56] <thereddeh> but with more lumen yeah ;p
#1337 [12:56] <BarryCarlyon> Hehe
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#1339 [12:56] <mib_y4x090> YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
#1340 [12:56] <mib_y4x090> i think it worked
#1341 [12:56] <grand> ?
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#1346 [12:58] <mib_y4x090> Sooo. whats up?
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#1352 [13:00] <_Mikau> :(
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#1354 [13:01] <Mikau> HOW DARE YOU ESPER
#1355 [13:01] <NinjaKirby> Esper really doesn't seem to compare well to the other Networks I join :/
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#1357 [13:02] <ConMan8> Netsplits are fun!
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#1378 [13:08] <aetherian> yo.
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#1381 [13:09] <fogwraith> O_o
#1382 [13:09] <aetherian> what
#1383 [13:09] <fogwraith> netsplit?
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#1387 [13:10] <aetherian> that's always fun
#1388 [13:11] * aetherian is away: and misc? isn't that like saying and and other?
#1388 [13:12] <fogwraith> Right, I need a testsubject
#1389 [13:13] <Lorax> pigman zombie?
#1390 [13:13] <thereddeh> me?
#1391 [13:13] <fogwraith> Excellent
#1392 [13:13] <fogwraith> thereddeh: log on to crafted.se:8888
#1393 [13:14] <thereddeh> i cant
#1394 [13:14] <aetherian> yeah
#1395 [13:14] <fogwraith> ;/
#1396 [13:14] <DopeGhoti> Seems to loopfail.
#1397 [13:14] <DopeGhoti> at least in elinks
#1398 [13:14] <aetherian> times out whilst pinging
#1399 [13:15] <DopeGhoti> no, it's not a timeout
#1400 [13:15] <DopeGhoti> $ nc -z crafted.se 8888
#1401 [13:15] <DopeGhoti> Connection to crafted.se 8888 port [tcp/ddi-tcp-1] succeeded!
#1402 [13:15] <fogwraith> I wouldn't be here if it timed out
#1403 [13:16] <thereddeh> cant connect because mc.net is down
#1404 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> it just closes the TCP connection when the HTTP request is made
#1405 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> thereddeh: it's.. not an MC server.
#1406 [13:16] <fogwraith> It is, Ghoti :P
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#1408 [13:16] <thereddeh> but it requests id from it
#1409 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> it's not behaving like one
#1410 [13:17] <thereddeh> youre not behaving.
#1411 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> Well, the good news is port 8888 is open and accepting TCP connections.
#1412 [13:17] <fogwraith> I know it is :P
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#1417 [13:28] <thereddeh> mc.net si down waaaay too often
#1418 [13:28] <xales> They are working on fixing that
#1419 [13:29] <Odenn> I NEED MINECRACK!
#1420 [13:29] <thereddeh> with what? redstone? :|
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#1422 [13:31] <mbentley> they must have ported the site to the 16 bit computer
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#1424 [13:34] <aetherian> ah, minecrack...
#1425 [13:34] <aetherian> it's the evercrack of sandbox games
#1426 [13:35] <Odenn> even more addicted than real crackcocaine
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#1429 [13:35] <Odenn> addictive
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#1431 [13:36] <aetherian> what with all the weed. I mean reed.
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#1433 [13:37] <Odenn> aetherian: im out of real weed, and minecraft is down
#1434 [13:37] <Odenn> this has to be the worst day ever
#1435 [13:38] <aetherian> I feel for you.
#1436 [13:38] <aetherian> try doing an mmo
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#1438 [13:39] <mbentley> surprised people aren't coming in here any flipping out like ninjas constantly
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#1440 [13:40] * aetherian throws a ninja octavaloid at mbentleys neck
#1440 [13:40] <aetherian> stars are for sissies
#1441 [13:40] <aetherian> anyway, I'm off again
#1442 [13:40] <mbentley> lol
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#1445 [13:51] <izzd> I'm getting 'can't connect to minecraft.net' quite alot recently?
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#1447 [13:53] <Xaviergmail> anyone else getting error 503 when going on minecraft.net?
#1448 [13:53] <mbentley> most people
#1449 [13:53] <Xaviergmail> kk
#1450 [13:54] <Xaviergmail> i thought it was cause im on teamviewer on my iphon
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#1452 [13:54] <N3RF> Is minecraft.net down??
#1453 [13:54] <mbentley> yes
#1454 [13:54] <izzd> thinkso
#1455 [13:54] <N3RF> ah
#1456 [13:55] <N3RF> shit :-D
#1457 [13:55] <izzd> give it a few mins :)
#1458 [13:55] <N3RF> or else!!!! :O
#1459 [13:55] <evtl> a few hours u mean
#1460 [13:56] <izzd> it's been doing this most of today
#1461 [13:56] <evtl> (19:24:16) (Fisheatsbear) they're migrating hosts
#1462 [13:56] <N3RF> i have been playing till 18:00
#1463 [13:56] <evtl> (19:25:52) (evtl) any idea how long they'll need?
#1464 [13:56] <evtl> (19:26:04) (@xales) It should be fixed by tomorrow
#1465 [13:56] <evtl> (19:26:11) • xales isn't 100% sure
#1466 [13:57] <izzd> ah :)
#1467 [13:57] <evtl> yeah
#1468 [13:57] <izzd> new hosts are gona be perfect?
#1469 [13:57] <evtl> my cooked porkchop is ready
#1470 [13:57] <evtl> they hope so
#1471 [13:57] <evtl> ;>
#1472 [13:58] <evtl> they are going to use their cloud
#1473 [13:58] <izzd> ?
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#1475 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> No, they're going to use Amazon's cloud.
#1476 [14:01] <|System|> WTF
#1477 [14:02] <|System|> They have loads of money ... They can own a server at they own expense
#1478 [14:02] <evtl> (19:24:25) (Yushatak) cuz old one kept going down
#1479 [14:02] <evtl> (19:24:30) (Yushatak) they are changing to their cloud server
#1480 [14:02] <evtl> (19:24:34) (Yushatak) much better redundancy
#1481 [14:03] <|System|> why cant they buy a web server to host minecraft.net ?
#1482 [14:03] <|System|> Insted of amazon...
#1483 [14:04] <BarryCarlyon> Cloud is better than a single web server.
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#1485 [14:04] <evtl> but amazon?
#1486 [14:04] <|System|> They can buy loads
#1487 [14:04] <|System|> Doesnt need to be one
#1488 [14:05] <|System|> And a sql for account storage
#1489 [14:05] <|System|> sql server *
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#1491 [14:06] <Xaviergmail> read about it on http://notch.tumblr.com
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#1494 [14:08] <Xaviergmail> woot a singlemserver for multiplayer login and authing :D
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#1497 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> |System|: I don't think you qute understand what the Amazon cloud is.
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#1499 [14:12] <|System|> huh?
#1500 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> 12:03 < |System|> why cant they buy a web server to host minecraft.net ?
#1501 [14:12] <|System|> Yes for physical interaction
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#1503 [14:13] <|System|> So they can add what ever they want and have full control on it
#1504 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> they WILL have full control over it
#1505 [14:13] <|System|> insted of being dependent on Amazon
#1506 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> including the ability to say "oh, huh. We're overloaded. Let's turn on three more instances. Hey, we're up again!"
#1507 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> being "Depending on Amazon" in the same way that they'd be dependent on any other host
#1508 [14:14] <|System|> If they get aload of "physical" servers they can handle it better
#1509 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> what, you want Mojang to build their own facility and contract with several internet backbones for peering service?
#1510 [14:14] <|System|> what the ..
#1511 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> If they get a load of physical servers, they can't instantly expand to handle high load.
#1512 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> THAT, sir or ma'am, is the advantage of a cloud infrastrucure.
#1513 [14:15] <|System|> They have the money to... so yeah
#1514 [14:15] <|System|> they can
#1515 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> Um, no
#1516 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> I know for a fact that the ramp-up time to add a new server at a hosting facility can run into the _months_.
#1517 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> so no, with physical servers, you cannot instantly react to high load.
#1518 [14:16] <|System|> okay i am done fight for today.. lets say we both have our advanatges and disadvantages about the servers
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#1520 [14:16] <|System|> fighting*
#1521 [14:17] <|System|> Also they could just ease into it
#1522 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> I'm more than happy to stipulate that there are advantages to physical servers; it's just that instant expansion isn't one of them :)
#1523 [14:18] <|System|> I know
#1524 [14:18] <|System|> I thought that you knew that aswell
#1525 [14:19] <|System|> I just thought it would be good for them to do a future project
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#1530 [14:26] <NinjaKirby> OOHH, That was close, digging at bedrock level, mined a block of gravel, jumped straight into the hole - was surrounded by 2 blocks of lava ready to pour over me. Thank god for the propogation time.
#1531 [14:26] <xales> Stupid gravel
#1532 [14:26] <xales> It's always because of the gravel!
#1533 [14:27] <LatHans> is there any ETA on the minecraft servers?
#1534 [14:27] <NinjaKirby> XD I never liked gravel
#1535 [14:27] <Jedi-Mocro> Does anyone have skintest2.jar saved on his computer or external website?
#1536 [14:27] <Jedi-Mocro> I need it to preview some skins I made
#1537 [14:27] <Jedi-Mocro> But the website is down
#1538 [14:27] <BarryCarlyon> skinedit has it built in
#1539 [14:27] <BarryCarlyon> i think
#1540 [14:28] <Jedi-Mocro> nope
#1541 [14:28] <BarryCarlyon> :-(
#1542 [14:28] <Jedi-Mocro> The preview library doesn't exist! Please select the URL to download it: http://minecraft.net/skin/skintest2.jar
#1543 [14:29] <Jedi-Mocro> BTW: why is the site down?
#1544 [14:30] <BarryCarlyon> Moving servers.
#1545 [14:30] <NinjaKirby> Site issues to be noted in the Topic?
#1546 [14:31] <lemon-rev> jedi-mocro http://notch.tumblr.com
#1547 [14:32] <lemon-rev> and morning to your help#
#1548 [14:32] <fogwraith> I highly doubt they're working on it at this late hour though ;P
#1549 [14:32] <Jedi-Mocro> HOW LONG WILL THIS TAKE
#1550 [14:32] <Jedi-Mocro> :<
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#1552 [14:32] <Jedi-Mocro> I WANT TO PLAY
#1553 [14:32] <Jedi-Mocro> :<
#1554 [14:32] <fogwraith> It's 20:31 in Sweden
#1555 [14:33] <fogwraith> 08:31 PM
#1556 [14:33] <Jedi-Mocro> 20,33 in the netherlands
#1557 [14:33] <fogwraith> Office hours ended like... 3-4½ hours ago? :P
#1558 [14:34] <Jedi-Mocro> :< i sad
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#1560 [14:37] <lemon-rev> hay jedi what os - operating sys you running ?
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#1564 [14:40] * lemon-rev im wondering the design of the pebble rock did it orgionate from game wolf3d ?
#1564 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> "pebble rock"?
#1565 [14:41] <lemon-rev> well
#1566 [14:41] <lemon-rev> mined rock
#1567 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> cobblestone?
#1568 [14:41] <lemon-rev> yes
#1569 [14:41] <Xaviergmail> ^
#1570 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> I don't recall wolf3d's cobblestone texture having a distinct 'L' in one corner which, once seen, cannot be unseen.
#1571 [14:42] <lemon-rev> hahahahah
#1572 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> (helpful for determining Northiness though)
#1573 [14:42] <lemon-rev> its just the design i think is similar that is all and it reminds me of it
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#1575 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> (and I can't WAIT to hear the shreiks of terror if/when that texture gets updated)
#1576 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> (also, JEEbus, overviewer- you've been running for six hours and you're not done _yet_?!)
#1577 [14:44] <mbentley> that must be some map...
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#1580 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: I actually trimmed it down last week after some players went on walkabout
#1581 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: before I did that, the static map .png image was 48842 × 19434 pixels
#1582 [14:47] <mbentley> haha
#1583 [14:47] <lemon-rev> bbl < work :(
#1584 [14:47] <mbentley> i forgot what size mine got up to after some ridiculous exploration but it wouldn't load in anything except for chrome
#1585 [14:48] <Jedi-Mocro> lemon-rev: I was afmk, I'm using Mac OSX with snow leopard
#1586 [14:48] <lemon-rev> oh
#1587 [14:48] <lemon-rev> i see
#1588 [14:48] <lemon-rev> np
#1589 [14:48] <Jedi-Mocro> why did you want to know that?
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#1593 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> mbentley: mine would only load in Chrome in my PC that has 10GiB of RAM
#1594 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> anything else needed GIMP and _lots_ of HD space
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#1596 [14:52] <Solvius> back :) hi
#1597 [14:52] <Solvius> is minecraft offline again ?
#1598 [14:53] <Solvius> ahaa maintenance :)
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#1600 [14:55] <Berko> is minecraft down?
#1601 [14:56] <mbentley> survey says...
#1602 [14:56] <mbentley> yes
#1603 [14:57] <Berko> k, any ideas when itll be up?
#1604 [14:57] <mbentley> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/minecraft.net
#1605 [14:57] <mbentley> and http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2812089385/the-web-server-is-struggling-were-migrating
#1606 [14:57] <Berko> ok thanks
#1607 [14:57] <mbentley> np
#1608 [14:58] <Berko> and i cnt play offline
#1609 [14:58] <Berko> bah
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#1611 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> Berko: sure you cna
#1612 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> if you're used the client at least once.
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#1614 [14:59] <Berko> it wont let me, cuz i think i deleted the bin
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#1617 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> Berko: why would you have done that? :/
#1618 [15:00] <mbentley> well if you are running windows, you might check your recycle bin ;)
#1619 [15:01] <Berko> i was installing mods, and failed
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#1621 [15:02] <Berko> it still wont let me play offline, eveen when i restored the old files
#1622 [15:03] <mbentley> you need the 'lastlogin' file in %appdata%\.minecraft
#1623 [15:03] <mbentley> (assuming it is windows...)
#1624 [15:03] <Berko> yup, restored that too
#1625 [15:05] <Berko> got it
#1626 [15:05] <Berko> thx
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#1628 [15:12] <NeedSomeHelp> help i can log in
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#1630 [15:12] <NeedSomeHelp> *cant
#1631 [15:13] <thereddeh> heres what you do:
#1632 [15:13] <thereddeh> wait.
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#1634 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> NeedSomeHelp: minecraft.net is down; you'll have to wait for it to come back up.
#1635 [15:14] <NeedSomeHelp> i pad mony for that and know i can play wahts that??
#1636 [15:14] * minecraft-net is down
#1636 [15:15] <Mjiig> TheReddeH: very nice :)
#1637 [15:15] <mbentley> NeedSomeHelp: you'll just have to wait... http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2812089385/the-web-server-is-struggling-were-migrating
#1638 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> NeedSomeHelp: you paid money for a game, plus access to the Beta _when it's available_
#1639 [15:16] * you are disconnected
#1639 [15:16] <TheReddeH> meh
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#1643 [15:22] <NeedSomeHelp> when it goea on too?
#1644 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> did you just lapse into Gaelic?
#1645 [15:23] <NeedSomeHelp> it anywhere german?
#1646 [15:24] <Solvius> nein das ist nicht in deutsch
#1647 [15:24] <NeedSomeHelp> nicht in deutsch aus deutsch
#1648 [15:24] <Jedi-Mocro> I'm mad
#1649 [15:25] <NeedSomeHelp> ....ne
#1650 [15:25] <Jedi-Mocro> I wanna finish my base...
#1651 [15:25] <Solvius> whatever its english und ich bin kein englander :)
#1652 [15:25] <NeedSomeHelp> wenn geht meincraft wider onlyne
#1653 [15:25] <Solvius> when its ready :)
#1654 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> NeedSomeHelp: Spater.
#1655 [15:26] <NeedSomeHelp> 10minunten , stunde 2 tage?
#1656 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> NeedSomeHelp: Wir weissen nicht, denn wir nicht zu Mojang sein.
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#1658 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> Look, it's an mstevens!
#1659 [15:29] <mstevens> wow!
#1660 [15:29] <NeedSomeHelp> Mojang ?
#1661 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> NeedSomeHelp: Mojang screibt Minecraft.
#1662 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> schreibt*
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#1665 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: "schreien", schreiben"
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#1667 [15:53] <i81u812> so anyone else having trouble getting online>
#1668 [15:53] <i81u812> ?
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#1670 [15:53] <NeedSomeHelp> ich
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#1673 [15:54] <NeedSomeHelp> ich will wieder spielen
#1674 [15:55] <NeedSomeHelp> muss morgen wieder aufstehen um3-..-
#1675 [15:55] <i81u812> ouch...
#1676 [15:57] <NeedSomeHelp> gibt es keinen crack oder so?
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#1678 [15:59] <Tyson_ot_NW> hey, is there any word on the login server?
#1679 [16:00] <slide> ugh its down again?
#1680 [16:00] <slide> screw this
#1681 [16:02] <mbentley> nope, still down afaik
#1682 [16:02] <slide> yea im gonna setup my own auth
#1683 [16:03] <Diablothein> Nice... Marines recruiters came to our school today...
#1684 [16:03] <NeedSomeHelp> Tyson_ot_NW V2Blast Dvonio Bio_Hazzard SkiingPenguins Ronjoe rf` Mikau NeedSomeHelp odielag Count|net Kaito Skoshuke Shadow386 Solvius hassifa [Husky]Shnaw qable Miclee Odenn Jedi-Mocro Tonux peru ssen LayneObserdia JNZ Xaviergmail phantomcircuit BigbyBob Fuzzmz Kyron Sense Nick^ ionface ftw ziggo0 Ruro ivan +fogwraith aetherian BarryCarlyon Kurimus Sun7zu Jakob MJXII lemon-rev [JD] CruelNoise DJComet j4mie ArmEagle fork ponakka
#1685 [16:03] <ionface> yes?
#1686 [16:03] <Jedi-Mocro> yes
#1687 [16:03] <Sun7zu> hi
#1688 [16:03] <fogwraith> ?
#1689 [16:03] <Shadow386> dont do that
#1690 [16:03] <Shadow386> faggot
#1691 [16:03] <SkiingPenguins> that's not nice of you
#1692 [16:03] <SkiingPenguins> fuck off
#1693 [16:03] <NeedSomeHelp> lool
#1694 [16:03] <LayneObserdia> footer.30 = wth?
#1695 [16:03] <ionface> nb4 ban
#1696 [16:03] <DJComet> Good way NOT to get help.
#1697 [16:03] <Sun7zu> Heh.
#1698 [16:04] <Shadow386> that's a way for everyone to make your computer better by deleting system32
#1699 [16:04] <ssen> ./kickban
#1700 [16:04] <SkiingPenguins> "- NeedSomeHelp has been added to ignore list" <- ^.^
#1701 [16:04] <V2Blast> woo, /ignore
#1702 [16:05] <Ronjoe> NeedSomeHelp!*@* added to ignore list.
#1703 [16:05] <NeedSomeHelp> so will must change my ip and nick...
#1704 [16:05] <Ronjoe> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NftHH2YatnU a project ive been working on
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#1707 [16:06] <Jedi-Mocro> cool
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#1710 [16:06] <Jedi-Mocro> too bad the song sucks
#1711 [16:06] <Jedi-Mocro> lol
#1712 [16:06] <Jedi-Mocro> no really, it's awesome
#1713 [16:06] <Ackmey> Does anyone know why my 4-clock keeps burning out? Ugh. :(
#1714 [16:07] <BurnZeZ> Design?
#1715 [16:07] <Tyson_ot_NW> It's a 4 clock and tehy tend to be unstable?
#1716 [16:07] <Diablothein> Ackmey, try a different design.
#1717 [16:07] <Ackmey> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/d/d7/Clock_generators.gif
#1718 [16:07] <Ackmey> Design D on that
#1719 [16:07] <BurnZeZ> Hmm.
#1720 [16:07] <NeedSomeHelp> can someone start the minecraft server
#1721 [16:07] <Tyson_ot_NW> That one of the most stable 4 clocks, odd
#1722 [16:08] <BurnZeZ> Yeah.
#1723 [16:08] <BurnZeZ> When does it burn out?
#1724 [16:08] <Ackmey> I've built it like 5 times in all orientations, burns out after 5-8 seconds or something like that
#1725 [16:08] <BurnZeZ> O.o
#1726 [16:08] <BurnZeZ> Do you have any mods?
#1727 [16:08] <Diablothein> Remove switch?
#1728 [16:08] <Ackmey> Nope
#1729 [16:08] <Tyson_ot_NW> It looks like the auth servers are down. possibly in relation to the server move
#1730 [16:08] <BurnZeZ> Tyson_ot_NW: Yeah.
#1731 [16:08] <Ackmey> Switch...? There's nothing attached to it it's just the design
#1732 [16:09] <BurnZeZ> Give us screenshots.
#1733 [16:09] <Ackmey> Incoming
#1734 [16:09] <BurnZeZ> Argh.
#1735 [16:09] <BurnZeZ> Does anyone have 1.2_01 Minecraft.jar?
#1736 [16:09] <Diablothein> ^buttpirate
#1737 [16:09] <BurnZeZ> Or is that not allowed?
#1738 [16:09] <Diablothein> Burn, linux?
#1739 [16:09] <BurnZeZ> Windows 7.
#1740 [16:09] <Diablothein> Nope
#1741 [16:10] <BurnZeZ> I tried out a mod.
#1742 [16:10] <Jedi-Mocro> is there a way in singleplauer to make a game with unlimited stocks, I want to make something big and I don't want to mine all the time
#1743 [16:10] <BurnZeZ> Deleted the .jar, just to realize the server was down.
#1744 [16:10] <Ronjoe> BurnZeZ: consider yourself screwed
#1745 [16:10] <BurnZeZ> lol
#1746 [16:10] <Ronjoe> actually, i know from experience youre paid
#1747 [16:10] <Ronjoe> ill pm you
#1748 [16:10] <BurnZeZ> Note to self: Always make backups.
#1749 [16:10] <Ronjoe> but mine is modded too
#1750 [16:10] <Ronjoe> soooo
#1751 [16:10] <Ronjoe> yeah
#1752 [16:10] <BurnZeZ> lolol
#1753 [16:10] <Diablothein> Burn, do a system backup :D
#1754 [16:11] <Ronjoe> i only have mrmmod on
#1755 [16:11] <Diablothein> >.< restore
#1756 [16:11] <BurnZeZ> Mrmmod?
#1757 [16:11] <Ackmey> Ugh what's easiest way to get screenie here? Have to upload somewhere?
#1758 [16:11] <BurnZeZ> Ackmey: Try hyperdesktop.
#1759 [16:11] <BurnZeZ> It takes a sceenie and uploads it.
#1760 [16:11] <Ackmey> Ugh too late gotta go I'll be back in a bit thanks for help so far
#1761 [16:11] <Jedi-Mocro> is there a way in singleplauer to make a game with unlimited stocks, I want to make something big and I don't want to mine all the time
#1762 [16:11] <Rait> Where does most of minecrafts music come from?
#1763 [16:12] <Ronjoe> Jedi-Mocro: invedit
#1764 [16:12] <BurnZeZ> C418.
#1765 [16:12] <Ronjoe> google it
#1766 [16:12] <Jedi-Mocro> Rait: is it also for mac?
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#1768 [16:12] <Ronjoe> ah shit no its not
#1769 [16:12] <Ronjoe> get WINE
#1770 [16:12] <Jedi-Mocro> :<
#1771 [16:12] <Ronjoe> owait, nvm
#1772 [16:12] <Ronjoe> it doesnt work in wine
#1773 [16:12] <Jedi-Mocro> Because I want to make a map
#1774 [16:12] <BurnZeZ> Wait. Is that bot still here?
#1775 [16:12] <Ronjoe> shame on you for choosing mac
#1776 [16:12] <BurnZeZ> !paid BurnZeZ
#1777 [16:12] <Ronjoe> its your fault
#1778 [16:12] <BurnZeZ> O.o
#1779 [16:12] <BurnZeZ> lololol
#1780 [16:12] <Jedi-Mocro> and host it on a server
#1781 [16:12] <Jedi-Mocro> so people can join me with building it.
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#1783 [16:13] <BurnZeZ> Oh yeah, bot runs from server. Duh.
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#1785 [16:13] <BurnZeZ> Argh.
#1786 [16:13] <BurnZeZ> Well, I'll just go code my game engine. Maybe the server will be up in an hour or something.
#1787 [16:14] <Ronjoe> wait BurnZeZ
#1788 [16:14] <BurnZeZ> O.o
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#1791 [16:15] <Jedi-Mocro> Is it possible to add own NPC's with own skins in your own server?
#1792 [16:15] <TheBix> ok minecraft.net seems pretty down to me now
#1793 [16:15] <Jedi-Mocro> So instead of Creeps NPC's who murder you?
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#1795 [16:15] <TheBix> Jedi-Mocro: please explain
#1796 [16:16] <Jedi-Mocro> ?
#1797 [16:16] <Jedi-Mocro> Well, if you have your own Server
#1798 [16:16] <TheBix> yes.
#1799 [16:16] <Jedi-Mocro> Can you add NPC's
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#1801 [16:16] <TheBix> no.
#1802 [16:16] <Jedi-Mocro> With a skin you made
#1803 [16:16] <TheBix> no.
#1804 [16:16] <Jedi-Mocro> ah, ok.
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#1806 [16:16] * aetherian is away: misc.
#1806 [16:16] <Jedi-Mocro> Too bad, So creeps will be creeps, you cannot change that?
#1807 [16:16] <TheBix> thats decided by the texture pack the client is using.
#1808 [16:17] <TheBix> so no. you can't change that
#1809 [16:17] <bobingabout> i can't log into servers!
#1810 [16:17] <aetherian> bobing, howso
#1811 [16:17] <Jedi-Mocro> no shit sherrkllock
#1812 [16:17] <TheBix> no one can
#1813 [16:17] <aetherian> ohh
#1814 [16:17] <aetherian> heh
#1815 [16:17] <aetherian> I haven't tried
#1816 [16:17] <TheBix> minecraft.net is all broke
#1817 [16:17] <TheBix> it looks to actually be down now.
#1818 [16:17] <aetherian> he needs a better server methinks
#1819 [16:17] <bobingabout> someone go slap notch to fix it
#1820 [16:18] <TheBix> I mean come on.
#1821 [16:18] <izzd> it's updating for me now
#1822 [16:18] <Jedi-Mocro> but in Singleplayer you can reskin Creeps
#1823 [16:18] <NeedSomeHelp> play minecraft never the server will be donw vor ever
#1824 [16:18] <TheBix> Its been mentioned by more people than me that if he has so much money, whats stopping him from buying a better server?
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#1826 [16:18] <zampa> Heya, i have a question, I just started minecraft like 30 minutes ago, and I wonder if monsters can just explode destroying my little hideout.
#1827 [16:19] <bobingabout> Creepers can
#1828 [16:19] <bobingabout> Creepers explode
#1829 [16:19] <izzd> the green ones explode
#1830 [16:19] <bobingabout> usually only when you're near them though
#1831 [16:19] <zampa> But would they just explone at random when they dont even know im inside?
#1832 [16:19] <SkiingPenguins> make your front door out of obsidian and pwn
#1833 [16:19] <zampa> I go to hiding way before sundown.
#1834 [16:20] <bobingabout> if by some reason a creeper got attacked by a zombie or something, then he'll explode and blow it up
#1835 [16:20] <Tyson_ot_NW> If they are within a block or two they will explode
#1836 [16:20] <zampa> Ah, so I should eventually start building a 'real' fortress
#1837 [16:20] <TheBix> play the game and find out
#1838 [16:20] <TheBix> thats what I did.
#1839 [16:20] <aetherian> make a huge fortress 'dian
#1840 [16:20] <aetherian> *of 'dian
#1841 [16:21] <NeedSomeHelp> can everyone send me 1€?
#1842 [16:21] <zampa> Oh I just just started so I only have... erm cobbler-something as strongest thing so far.
#1843 [16:21] <aetherian> lol...
#1844 [16:21] <BurnZeZ> Ronjoe: That lighting mod is awesome.
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#1846 [16:21] <Ronjoe> yeah
#1847 [16:21] <Ronjoe> love it
#1848 [16:22] <SkiingPenguins> i made a fence around my wood house
#1849 [16:22] <Ronjoe> it was previously called "ambient occlusion"
#1850 [16:22] <zampa> oh thats smart.
#1851 [16:22] <Tyson_ot_NW> fences can be suprisingly effective
#1852 [16:22] <SkiingPenguins> especially double-high
#1853 [16:22] <zampa> is there any light-source thats permament?
#1854 [16:22] <Ronjoe> arent torches permanent?
#1855 [16:23] <zampa> i only got tourcehs now and heard they will get burned down.
#1856 [16:23] <SkiingPenguins> torches and netherrack that's on fire?
#1857 [16:23] <bobingabout> currently, torchs are permanant, but there are plans to change that
#1858 [16:23] <Tyson_ot_NW> FOR NOW, DUN DUN DUUUUUU
#1859 [16:23] <slide> yay i got authenticated ;)
#1860 [16:23] <slide> me > you
#1861 [16:23] <slide> lol
#1862 [16:23] <zampa> bobingabout: Ah i see thanks.
#1863 [16:23] <Xaviergmail> its back up?
#1864 [16:23] <slide> no ;)
#1865 [16:23] <Xaviergmail> :(
#1866 [16:23] <NeedSomeHelp> /~reboot@admincr23y3g[novirus]$ontet0irc/client_execute(hack)s§byshuffelmuf.com
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#1868 [16:24] <Xaviergmail> nub ^^
#1869 [16:24] <slide> heh
#1870 [16:24] <SkiingPenguins> how big is your worlds? mine is 11 MB!
#1871 [16:25] <TheBix> slide: having fun on the empty servers?
#1872 [16:25] <slide> TheBix, nah, i let me friends auth too (they trust me so)
#1873 [16:26] <TheBix> wat server? if its private just disable authentication
#1874 [16:26] <Kealper> i'm so confuesed at that NeedSomeHelp guy
#1875 [16:26] <slide> still have to be able to run the client
#1876 [16:26] <TheBix> hint: "Play Offline" button
#1877 [16:26] <slide> exactly, 'offline'
#1878 [16:26] <TheBix> ...
#1879 [16:26] <TheBix> you can still join servers
#1880 [16:26] <slide> well thats misleading
#1881 [16:26] <slide> lol
#1882 [16:26] <bobingabout> how?
#1883 [16:27] <zampa> Hmm, I thought monsters went away once sun is up again? Or will monsters close by be there untill i kill them? Or did I simply not wait long enough?
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#1885 [16:27] <bobingabout> i've been trying to join servers literally all day
#1886 [16:27] <TheBix> it'll just try authenticate you and reject you. but if you've disable authentication on your server ;)
#1887 [16:27] <slide> bobingabout, the servers still have auth
#1888 [16:27] <TheBix> you can get in
#1889 [16:27] <slide> right
#1890 [16:27] <bobingabout> some monsters like zombies and skeletons die in sunlight, others like creepers and spiders do not
#1891 [16:28] <TheReddeH> really? never noticed that
#1892 [16:28] <zampa> bobingabout: Ah I see, thanks.
#1893 [16:29] <i81u812> playingt offline dosent effect anything but multi does it?
#1894 [16:29] <TheBix> i'm pretty sure it doesn't
#1895 [16:29] <Kealper> no i81u812
#1896 [16:30] <Kealper> only affects smp
#1897 [16:30] <i81u812> well I dont want some type of error and lose saves
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#1900 [16:32] <TheBix> hey guys how common is it for a domain name to just stop working?
#1901 [16:32] <SkiingPenguins> common
#1902 [16:32] <bobingabout> never had a problem with mine before
#1903 [16:32] <bobingabout> maybe notch didn't pay his bill
#1904 [16:33] <Mjiig> for what?
#1905 [16:33] <bobingabout> for his domain
#1906 [16:33] <TheBix> and the whole site at it to become not accessible even with the IP.
#1907 [16:33] <TheBix> no its not Notch's site
#1908 [16:33] <TheBix> its another one.
#1909 [16:33] <Mjiig> you mean minecraft.net?
#1910 [16:34] <Diablothein> It's called a SERVER MOVE
#1911 [16:34] <TheBix> no I don't
#1912 [16:34] <Mjiig> TheBix: which site are you talking about?
#1913 [16:34] <TheBix> pisminecraft.com
#1914 [16:35] <slide> notch needs better DRM, if this crap was by a big name company everyone would be up in arms
#1915 [16:35] <slide> especially with all this downtime
#1916 [16:35] * Kealper pretends he did not just see that
#1916 [16:35] <TheBix> Notch says on Twitter: "Minecraft.net is having one of those days (see kids, this is what happens if you don't eat your greens). Have patience. <3" More like this is what happens if you don't put any money into your server as your users grow over 1 million.
#1917 [16:36] <slide> hrm is that against the rules? heh
#1918 [16:36] <lukegb> slide: actually if this was Ubisoft you wouldn't be able to play at all ;P
#1919 [16:36] <slide> lukegb, doesnt make it much better for people that are bored of playing alone heh
#1920 [16:36] <Kealper> no, but minecraft.net is hosted off a shitty server right now, and it was just announced today that because of all these fuckups, all the stuff is being moved to an Amazon cloud
#1921 [16:36] * Diablothein copies Kealper
#1921 [16:37] <lukegb> If it was an oldish game. And they were magically having issues on every single drm server
#1922 [16:37] <Mjiig> slide: when you say drm are you referring to digital rights managment or one of the many other things that drm occaisionally stands for?
#1923 [16:37] <TheBix> oh yay
#1924 [16:37] <lukegb> Don't read me?
#1925 [16:37] <lukegb> :p
#1926 [16:37] <slide> Mjiig, yes
#1927 [16:37] <Mjiig> what has digital rights managment got to do with the server being down?
#1928 [16:37] <TheBix> "yes" doesn't help answer the question :\
#1929 [16:37] <Mjiig> minecraft doesn't even have drm...
#1930 [16:37] <Kealper> minecraft has no DRM, unless you count logging in as DRM
#1931 [16:37] <Diablothein> Kealper, we must intercept Notch!
#1932 [16:37] <lukegb> ^
#1933 [16:38] <slide> having to be connected online for auth everytime is DRM
#1934 [16:38] <Mjiig> Kealper: since you don't have to log in, i don'
#1935 [16:38] <Diablothein> He must move it to Ubuntu One!
#1936 [16:38] <lukegb> If it was drm, it would be fail drm
#1937 [16:38] <slide> it is fail drm
#1938 [16:38] <TheBix> I'd say authenticating to get the updates is drm
#1939 [16:38] <Mjiig> slide: except you don't have to log in
#1940 [16:38] <lukegb> Mjiig: you do, the first time.
#1941 [16:38] <Mjiig> there's a nice little "offline mode"
#1942 [16:38] <Kealper> ok now kiddies, this is #minecrafthelp, not #mcchatter
#1943 [16:38] <slide> Mjiig, if you want to play on public servers the auth needs to be up
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#1945 [16:38] <lukegb> Mjiig: which doesn't work, the first time
#1946 [16:38] <Mjiig> lukegb: that's the same as buying the game
#1947 [16:38] <lukegb> Mjiig: true, and the download's on s3
#1948 [16:38] <Diablothein> Kealper, What? This isn't #mchammer ?
#1949 [16:38] <TheBix> Also if you want to get updates
#1950 [16:39] <lukegb> So you can always pirate the completely unprotected minecraft jar
#1951 [16:39] <Kealper> Diablothein: i see what you there there...
#1952 [16:39] <Diablothein> ;)
#1953 [16:39] <lukegb> Straight from s3!
#1954 [16:39] <i81u812> alright ill be back hope everything goes well
#1955 [16:39] <Diablothein> But, you can't touch it.
#1956 [16:39] <lukegb> Diablothein: you can - the download ticket doesn't do anything since he moved to s3
#1957 [16:39] <TheBix> dude
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#1959 [16:40] <Diablothein> You missed it
#1960 [16:40] <Diablothein> Completely.
#1961 [16:40] <lukegb> Ohhh
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#1963 [16:40] <TheBix> now I am just getting erro 502
#1964 [16:40] <Mjiig> in something vaguely related to what this channel is for... where can i report a bug?
#1965 [16:40] <TheBix> error*
#1966 [16:40] <Kealper> Mjiig: me
#1967 [16:40] <TheBix> protip: don't its probably been reported over 9000 times by now.
#1968 [16:41] <TheBix> regardless of what it is
#1969 [16:41] <Kealper> either in this channel or a query
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#1971 [16:44] <NOSDuco> Why can i not connect to anything?
#1972 [16:44] <Tyson_ot_NW> auth server down
#1973 [16:44] <Tyson_ot_NW> as is the site
#1974 [16:44] <NOSDuco> Wow, when will it be up?
#1975 [16:44] <TheBix> never
#1976 [16:45] <NOSDuco> No seriously
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#1978 [16:45] <Tyson_ot_NW> we don't know
#1979 [16:45] <TheBix> no one really knows i'd say
#1980 [16:45] <TheBix> when it goes up
#1981 [16:46] <NOSDuco> uh this really suck
#1982 [16:46] <NOSDuco> s
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#1986 [16:55] <Jedi-Mocro> SERVER IS ONLINE
#1987 [16:55] <Jedi-Mocro> Changing skin is currently disabled, check back again in a couple of hours.
#1988 [16:55] <Jedi-Mocro> Changing skin is currently disabled, check back again in a couple of hours.
#1989 [16:56] <Jedi-Mocro> Changing skin is currently disabled, check back again in a couple of hours.
#1990 [16:56] <Jedi-Mocro> I HATE THIS
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#1993 [16:57] <Tyson_ot_NW> I'm timing out. at least login is not instafail
#1994 [16:58] <evtl> tomorrow all will be fine
#1995 [16:59] <Tyson_ot_NW> But I want it NOW. nownownownownownownownownow ;P
#1996 [17:00] <Kealper> .set motd Please note that you will have trouble logging in to the game for today, minecraft.net is currently being moved to a more powerful set of servers! Sorry for any issues this may cause.
#1997 [17:00] <Rait> Mean smp is also down?
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#1999 [17:01] <Kealper> yes, unfortunately
#2000 [17:01] <Ookami-07> Is minecraft down?
#2001 [17:01] <Rait> xD "User is not premuim"
#2002 [17:01] <Kealper> the recent server fails have pushed them to get minecraft.net on a cloud
#2003 [17:01] <Kealper> yes Ookami-07 it's down
#2004 [17:01] <Ookami-07> just checking, i was also having problems with my internet.
#2005 [17:02] <Ookami-07> thanks!
#2006 [17:02] <Kealper> np
#2007 [17:02] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2008 [17:02] <Tyson_ot_NW> Still down, just not AS down as it was.
#2009 [17:02] <Kealper> it's been intermittent all day
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#2012 [17:03] <Kealper> good thing that actually set the MOTD -.-
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#2015 [17:03] <Kealper> there we go
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#2017 [17:06] <Kealper> i wish my ip would resolve to a hostname :/
#2018 [17:08] <LatHans> Kealper: it does.. but the hostname does not resolve to an ip address
#2019 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: have your provider set up an rDNS record for it
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#2021 [17:09] <Kealper> well for this machine i would assume it is something i would have to do myself
#2022 [17:09] <LatHans> ask your isp to set up an A record for 65-238-120-190.serverpronto.com pointing to 190.120.238.65
#2023 [17:10] <Kealper> not quite what i meant
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#2025 [17:10] <LatHans> hm.. what happend? my minecraft says it's downloading files, but it is still at 1.2_01?
#2026 [17:10] <Kealper> LatHans: version check failed and confuesed the client
#2027 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> LatHans: when the files got moved to a new server, the timestamps probably changes.
#2028 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> changed.
#2029 [17:10] <LatHans> I see
#2030 [17:10] <Kealper> or what dope said
#2031 [17:11] <Kealper> anyways
#2032 [17:11] <TheBix> wait what
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#2034 [17:11] <TheBix> what are we talking about?
#2035 [17:11] <TheBix> Okay now my client says downloading packages
#2036 [17:12] <Peterid> Anyone have any idea what the update is yet?
#2037 [17:12] <LatHans> I'm unable to connect to my server, though.. it just hangs at "logging in..." and then it says "took too long to log in"...
#2038 [17:12] <TheBix> apparently nothing
#2039 [17:12] <Kealper> this is a dedicated machine in a datacenter....and it has multiple domains hosted on it, it would be cool to have it resolve to businessadvances.com instead of not resolving at all
#2040 [17:12] <Kealper> LatHans: the server you tried connecting to could not reach minecraft.net
#2041 [17:12] <Kealper> there is no update
#2042 [17:12] <TheBix> or you could
#2043 [17:12] <TheBix> either way
#2044 [17:13] <TheBix> ha this server turned off authentication so people could join easily
#2045 [17:13] <Peterid> No update?
#2046 [17:13] <Kealper> no update
#2047 [17:13] <TheBix> but in like 2 seconds i spoofed the admins name :P
#2048 [17:13] <Kealper> just a confuesed client
#2049 [17:13] <Peterid> Sad day.
#2050 [17:15] <TheBix> judging from what my packet sniffer is saying
#2051 [17:16] <LatHans> minecraft.net [184.72.233.123] 80 (http) : Connection refused
#2052 [17:16] <LatHans> that didn't last long
#2053 [17:16] <TheBix> I have no problem connecting to minecraft.net, but it says "took too long to log in" because the server can't reach minecraft.net
#2054 [17:16] <Kealper> hoho!
#2055 [17:16] <Kealper> that means the dns record was updated
#2056 [17:16] <Kealper> that means....
#2057 [17:17] <Kealper> the cloud might be going to fire up
#2058 [17:17] <LatHans> what is the current IP?
#2059 [17:17] <LatHans> is 184.72.233.123 the new or the old one?
#2060 [17:17] <TheBix> the old IP address was 194. something
#2061 [17:17] <Kealper> 194.28.157.42
#2062 [17:17] <TheBix> yeah what Kealper said
#2063 [17:17] <LatHans> 123.233.72.184.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer ec2-184-72-233-123.compute-1.amazonaws.com.
#2064 [17:18] <Kealper> ISP of this IP [?]: AMAZON.COM
#2065 [17:18] <LatHans> the new one is amazon, the old one is zen network
#2066 [17:18] <Kealper> it's been switched to the Amazon cloud stuff now
#2067 [17:18] <LatHans> could stuff... sounds fluffy
#2068 [17:19] <NinjaKirby> I can't even connect to my own server, COME ON, ARGH
#2069 [17:19] <Kealper> fluffy and scalable :O
#2070 [17:19] <LatHans> NinjaKirby: you can.. if you set online = false
#2071 [17:19] <TheBix> compared to notch's old shit
#2072 [17:19] <NinjaKirby> It occured to me a moment before you said that, I'm not kidding
#2073 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> 184 is the new IP
#2074 [17:19] <NinjaKirby> but thanks
#2075 [17:19] <zampa> So I played minecraft for about an hour today... and what I fail to see is...
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#2077 [17:19] <peterpotatis> hi
#2078 [17:19] <NinjaKirby> Mr Potatis
#2079 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#2080 [17:20] <Xaviergmail> br b
#2081 [17:20] <zampa> Is there really any point of this game besides building random things?
#2082 [17:20] <zampa> Feles like it's quite a repetetive game.
#2083 [17:20] <Kealper> zampa: minecraft is whatever you make it to be
#2084 [17:20] <peterpotatis> im looking for servers
#2085 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> zampa: And yet, I still enjoy playing with Lego.
#2086 [17:20] <LatHans> it is whatever you make it:)
#2087 [17:20] <peterpotatis> any good tip to find them? :P
#2088 [17:20] <Kealper> peterpotatis: /join #smp
#2089 [17:20] <TheBix> there are going to be new game modes for people like you zampa
#2090 [17:20] <NinjaKirby> Nearly virtually infinite exploration, is the key, constant resources and new places to see.
#2091 [17:20] <Kealper> also check out http://servers.minecraftforum.net
#2092 [17:20] <zampa> DopeGhoti: Yeah must be awesome then.
#2093 [17:20] <zampa> TheBix: That's awesome.
#2094 [17:20] <peterpotatis> ty! :)
#2095 [17:20] <zampa> Kealper: True.
#2096 [17:21] <TheBix> like some zombie hunting one with dragons and tows ruled by pigs and such
#2097 [17:21] <TheBix> towns*
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#2099 [17:21] <Kealper> zampa: also, are you playing beta or classic?
#2100 [17:21] <zampa> classic.
#2101 [17:21] <Kealper> oh, yeah, what they speak of is only for beta
#2102 [17:22] <TheBix> which involves a monetary commitment
#2103 [17:22] <Kealper> classic won't get any more updates
#2104 [17:22] <peterpotatis> Kealper: is there any server thats u know like WOW?
#2105 [17:22] <peterpotatis> the concept ^^
#2106 [17:22] <TheBix> WOW CRAFT or some shit
#2107 [17:22] <Kealper> uhh.....what?
#2108 [17:22] <NinjaKirby> I'll turn up in my Anime Skin and ruin everything
#2109 [17:23] <TheBix> ew anime
#2110 [17:23] <TheBix> guy s I have a bikie skin
#2111 [17:23] <zampa> Perhaps I should get beta then.. Guess I'll play it more once I get my androidphone.
#2112 [17:23] <peterpotatis> well.. I dont play wow :P but the concept, with many people, trade/towns and shit :P
#2113 [17:23] <Kealper> it....doesn't work on phones
#2114 [17:23] <Kealper> phones suck too much to run it
#2115 [17:24] <TheBix> yeah I think buxville is like that
#2116 [17:24] <TheBix> I'm whitelisted on that but I don't go on lol
#2117 [17:24] <zampa> Oh beta does not work on phone? I see.
#2118 [17:24] <TheBix> minecraft requires a shitload of power to run
#2119 [17:24] <TheBix> its because notch has not optimized anything
#2120 [17:25] <peterpotatis> oh
#2121 [17:25] <Kealper> not just that, minecraft has something like 8 million blocks loaded at any given time
#2122 [17:25] <Kealper> all of which can be changed
#2123 [17:25] <zampa> Yeah that is true... damn lots of em.
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#2125 [17:25] <Kealper> so the ram requirements are usually the dealbreaker on phones
#2126 [17:25] <DarkN1ght> i need help
#2127 [17:26] <Kealper> DarkN1ght: with?
#2128 [17:26] <TheBix> I can max out my memory usage by running 3 copies of minecraft on lowest settings
#2129 [17:26] <TheBix> it uses 3 gigs when I only have 1.5 gigs ram
#2130 [17:26] <DarkN1ght> im trying to get refund but when i emailed dev i get no response
#2131 [17:26] <DarkN1ght> that was 3 days ago
#2132 [17:26] <Kealper> DarkN1ght: email daniel@mojang.com
#2133 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: don't email dev; email either support@ or payments@, or daniel@
#2134 [17:27] <DarkN1ght> i did payment@mojang.com
#2135 [17:27] <TheBix> i personally wouldn't be screwed to get a refunt
#2136 [17:27] <TheBix> refund*
#2137 [17:27] <TheBix> but thats not much help to you is it?
#2138 [17:27] <Kealper> also DarkN1ght when did you buy the game?
#2139 [17:27] <DarkN1ght> wouldnt be screwed?
#2140 [17:27] <DarkN1ght> 1-15
#2141 [17:28] <TheBix> hey guys I just got authenticated without a hitch
#2142 [17:28] <TheBix> and I'm in a server
#2143 [17:28] <TheBix> maybe its up
#2144 [17:28] <Kealper> ok yea, send an email to daniel@mojang.com then, you should get a response in about a day
#2145 [17:28] <DarkN1ght> thanks
#2146 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: Not that it matters, but I'm curious- why did you want a refund?
#2147 [17:28] <Kealper> TheBix: seems to be!
#2148 [17:28] <DarkN1ght> game is fun but its just to hard for me to figure out
#2149 [17:29] <NinjaKirby> ...
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#2151 [17:29] <Kealper> DarkN1ght: watch this link
#2152 [17:29] <Kealper> !tutorial
#2153 [17:29] <TheBix> heh
#2154 [17:29] <DarkN1ght> i have
#2155 [17:30] <TheBix> If I were you I'd just keep your account and wait till it gets better :P
#2156 [17:30] <Kealper> and then after that, check out http://minecraftwiki.net <-- that will be your minecrafters' bible
#2157 [17:30] <DarkN1ght> but i cant figure out how to mine ores pick does nothing cant figure out wat now
#2158 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: also, as the game gets more.. done, there will be more documentation, but I understand if it's just not for you.
#2159 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: try holding down the mouse button rather than clicking? :)
#2160 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> (this is never made clear)
#2161 [17:30] <zampa> Yeah some guy posted a video how to survive first night really helped me out alot.
#2162 [17:31] <zampa> since then I have just pretty much hidden myself in that cave xD
#2163 [17:31] <Kealper> t'was that link that AuBot gave
#2164 [17:31] <DarkN1ght> im fine with the first day
#2165 [17:31] <Kealper> DarkN1ght: watch more of that person's videos then, he explains the entire game very well
#2166 [17:31] <TheBix> hey whats a good server to join now that the auth server is up
#2167 [17:31] <zampa> Not even sure how I would build up a house that I can make sure no monsters will destroy during teh night, perhaps I need to make some kind of wall or something.
#2168 [17:31] <DarkN1ght> but i dug a lil tunnel and went down way down i see red ore which i cant mine and some others i cant mine using rock pick
#2169 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> zampa: moats? _magma_ moats? :)
#2170 [17:32] <TheBix> red ore must be mined with an iron pick
#2171 [17:32] <Tuppelmumin> damn minecraft have been down in like 3-4 houers for me now
#2172 [17:32] <DarkN1ght> how do i mine iron?
#2173 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> Tuppelmumin: fixed :)
#2174 [17:32] <TheBix> it should be back up now Tuppelmumin
#2175 [17:32] <TheBix> or it is for me
#2176 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: a stone pick can mine iron ore
#2177 [17:32] <zampa> DopeGhoti: oh I dont have anything even remotly strong as that.
#2178 [17:32] <peterpotatis> Kealper: what does this mean? http://data.fuskbugg.se/dipdip/________________________________________________________________________________________Sk%E4rmklipp.JPG
#2179 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: an iron pick can mine anything other than obsidian
#2180 [17:32] <peterpotatis> its an img link
#2181 [17:32] <DarkN1ght> i downloaded this really cool minecraft app on android
#2182 [17:33] <zampa> I should try to find myself some iron things.
#2183 [17:33] <Tuppelmumin> oo an uppdate?
#2184 [17:33] <Kealper> peterpotatis: it means either you stole the game, or the server that you want to play on is not updated
#2185 [17:33] <Tuppelmumin> like i tought
#2186 [17:33] <Tuppelmumin> whats new?
#2187 [17:33] <Kealper> Tuppelmumin: nothing
#2188 [17:33] <peterpotatis> stole? :P
#2189 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> Tuppelmumin: nothing other than datestamps
#2190 [17:33] <Tuppelmumin> Fuu
#2191 [17:33] <Tuppelmumin> ^^
#2192 [17:33] <peterpotatis> how is that possible :P
#2193 [17:34] <peterpotatis> hehe
#2194 [17:34] <Kealper> peterpotatis: if you don't know, then you don't need to know
#2195 [17:34] <DarkN1ght> lol
#2196 [17:34] <DarkN1ght> might hang on to the game now hehe
#2197 [17:34] <peterpotatis> well i got in here: http://mcserverlist.net/ and I try to join the first server ^^
#2198 [17:34] <Tuppelmumin> any one got a nice serveR?
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#2200 [17:34] <zampa> hmm, if I dig deep enough... and keep the path lit, would i eventually risk meeting monsters?
#2201 [17:34] <Kealper> most probable cause is that the server has not updated yet
#2202 [17:35] <peterpotatis> ahaa
#2203 [17:35] <Kealper> zampa: as long as it's well lit, no
#2204 [17:35] <peterpotatis> Tuppelmumin: if u find a nice one tell me ;)
#2205 [17:35] <zampa> Kealper: Very well lit* :D
#2206 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> zampa: yes, there are some "dungeons" there monsters spawn
#2207 [17:35] <Tuppelmumin> peterpotatis aa vesst vettu :D
#2208 [17:35] <peterpotatis> so if its well lit.. monsters wont spawn ?
#2209 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> peterpotatis: generally not, now
#2210 [17:35] <zampa> I just took random cliff and made it my mining quaters :D
#2211 [17:35] <peterpotatis> tack you! :D
#2212 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> s/now/no/
#2213 [17:35] * Kealper steps out for a few minutes
#2213 [17:36] <zampa> oh yeah what ahppens if i die?
#2214 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> zampa: your inventory drops where you are, and you respawn at the starting point
#2215 [17:37] <zampa> DopeGhoti: Ah not too bad then..
#2216 [17:39] <zampa> hmm could monsters spawn in the air if i have like a dark corner high up?
#2217 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> zampa: no, monsters need ground to spawn on
#2218 [17:39] <zampa> <--- very paranoi d:P
#2219 [17:40] <zampa> thanks.
#2220 [17:40] <izzd> if u fall into lava ur stuff can be melted zampa :)
#2221 [17:40] <peterpotatis> I have bad memories with lava...
#2222 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> zampa: the key is to keep all floors well-lit
#2223 [17:40] <izzd> ye.....
#2224 [17:40] <zampa> DopeGhoti: They are
#2225 [17:40] <zampa> a torch every second stairs down
#2226 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> after all my disasters with DF, I have cultivated a very healthy respect for magma :)
#2227 [17:41] <peterpotatis> why has it been problematic to play minecraft online?
#2228 [17:41] <peterpotatis> like now I cant connect for example :P
#2229 [17:42] <peterpotatis> now it works ^^
#2230 [17:42] <NinjaKirby> Everytime the Server.Properties is modified, player inventory data is lost?
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#2232 [17:44] <mib_n941u2> heya guys. just bought the game, but cant play from browser (tells me i have to buy it:S) and cant play the downloded version.. please help...
#2233 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> mib_n941u2: well.. did you buy it?
#2234 [17:44] <mib_n941u2> yes
#2235 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> what is your account name if you don't mind, please?
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#2237 [17:45] <mib_n941u2> i can see the payment in my netbank (dont know the english word)
#2238 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> That's all right.. When did you make the purchase?
#2239 [17:45] <mib_n941u2> to day.. maybe 15mins ago
#2240 [17:46] <mib_n941u2> hmm
#2241 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> Ah. They just had a major move with their website.. I would give it a couple hours, it may simply be processing the payment slowly
#2242 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> What username did you select?
#2243 [17:47] <mib_n941u2> ahh.. ok, guess that makes sense^^
#2244 [17:47] <mib_n941u2> why do you want my username?:P
#2245 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> to check whether the payment has gone through
#2246 [17:48] <mib_n941u2> ok, well its trygve86
#2247 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> !paid trygve86
#2248 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> ..Kealper?
#2249 [17:48] <lukegb> !paid lukegb
#2250 [17:48] <lukegb> ;;
#2251 [17:49] <zampa> oh yeah
#2252 [17:49] <zampa> can i create a secondary inventory or something?
#2253 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> mib_n941u2: Looks like it's just a matter of waiting for it to go through- try again in an hour or two, I'd say.
#2254 [17:49] <lukegb> ...
#2255 [17:49] <lukegb> :/
#2256 [17:49] <TheBix> !paid TheBix
#2257 [17:49] <mib_n941u2> hmm.. weird. guess i should give it a couple of hours then..
#2258 [17:49] <mib_n941u2> thanks alot:)
#2259 [17:49] <TheBix> lame
#2260 [17:49] <TheBix> yay!
#2261 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> my pleasure.
#2262 [17:49] <mib_n941u2> also, iwas wondering if there is a way to play with friends from the downloded version?
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#2266 [17:52] <DarkN1ght> got disconnected
#2267 [17:52] <DarkN1ght> stupid windows updates
#2268 [17:52] <DarkN1ght> can some1 tell me y the main website is so crappy
#2269 [17:52] <DarkN1ght> it takes like 30 reloads to finnally load the page
#2270 [17:53] <mib_n941u2> !paid trygve86
#2271 [17:53] <mib_n941u2> XD
#2272 [17:53] <mib_n941u2> im restless:P
#2273 [17:54] <lukegb> !paid lukegb
#2274 [17:54] <DarkN1ght> !paid dark_nightmar3
#2275 [17:55] <DarkN1ght> bs i havent
#2276 [17:55] <NinjaKirby> !paid NinjaKirby
#2277 [17:55] <TheBix> case sensitive
#2278 [17:55] <DarkN1ght> !paid Dark_nightmar3
#2279 [17:55] <TheBix> minecraft accounts are case sensitive is what I mean
#2280 [17:55] <Kealper> rawr
#2281 [17:55] <mib_n941u2> some guy just told me they just had a major move on the website, so it might take a few hours to complete the payment
#2282 [17:56] <Kealper> wait.....
#2283 [17:56] <NinjaKirby> Yeah right
#2284 [17:56] <zampa> Any way to make extra inventory-space?
#2285 [17:56] <zampa> or a box or something?
#2286 [17:56] <Rait> make a chest
#2287 [17:56] <Kealper> the !paid command is going to probably fail while minecraft.net is being worked on
#2288 [17:56] <Kealper> !disable
#2289 [17:57] <NinjaKirby> Hehe
#2290 [17:57] <Rait> zampe: use wooden planks all around the 3x3 crafting table, leave the middle one emtpy.
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#2292 [17:58] <Rait> zampa*
#2293 [17:58] <zampa> Rait: Ah thanks. Worked speldidly.
#2294 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: actually, it was working; just slowly :)
#2295 [17:59] <Solvius> I'm off to bed, goodnight guys for later and have fun
#2296 [18:00] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: you can still use the commands for AuBot, so if it starts acting normal again just type !enable
#2297 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: noted, with thanks.
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#2299 [18:03] <TheBix> so many script kiddies on minecraft forums
#2300 [18:04] <DarkN1ght> so r they ever gona make graphics better even slightly better or will that always be the same
#2301 [18:04] <TheBix> since that "login popup" thing everyone has been like "OMG someone is hacking the website" or "OMG someone is putting code on the website!!"
#2302 [18:05] <TheBix> but its nothing that sinister at all,.
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#2304 [18:08] <khamer> DarkN1ght, I don't know of it coming up, but I don't think its a goal
#2305 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: allegedly better texture packs are supported
#2306 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> personally, I like the vanilla graphics
#2307 [18:10] <TheBix> so do I
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#2309 [18:10] <TheBix> the built in look is cool
#2310 [18:15] <DarkN1ght> how u make iron pick?
#2311 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> same way as a stone pick, but with iron ingots
#2312 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> if all you have is ore, it must first be slelted in a forge
#2313 [18:18] <DarkN1ght> damn out of wood
#2314 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> to make a forge, at a workbengh, put eight stone around the perimeter of the grid
#2315 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> you can also use coal to fuel a forge
#2316 [18:19] <zampa> finally found my first iron.
#2317 [18:20] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#2318 [18:20] <Kealper> hmm....
#2319 [18:20] <DarkN1ght> i think im gona keep this game now lol
#2320 [18:20] <feenyx> coal burns for longer than wood, dunnit
#2321 [18:20] <feenyx> ?
#2322 [18:21] <Kealper> feenyx: yeah, 8x longer in a furnace
#2323 [18:21] <feenyx> last I actually bothered to count, one coal would smelt 8 iron
#2324 [18:21] <feenyx> or 8 glass
#2325 [18:21] <Kealper> indeed
#2326 [18:21] <DarkN1ght> how long does iron pick last?
#2327 [18:21] <Kealper> wood is 1 smelt, coal is 8, and a bucket of lava is 100 smelts
#2328 [18:21] <zampa> finally making my first 2 iron picks.
#2329 [18:22] <Kealper> DarkN1ght: 129 blocks i think
#2330 [18:22] <Kealper> might be higher, been a while since i checked
#2331 [18:22] <DarkN1ght> any1 here have a android phone
#2332 [18:22] <DarkN1ght> ?
#2333 [18:22] <feenyx> yes
#2334 [18:23] <DarkN1ght> u got the minecraftapp?
#2335 [18:23] <feenyx> though I daresay that's fairly out of scope for this channel
#2336 [18:23] <DarkN1ght> has all recipes
#2337 [18:23] <feenyx> yeah, two of them
#2338 [18:23] <feenyx> and a very pre-alpha mc client
#2339 [18:23] <zampa> hmm...
#2340 [18:23] <DarkN1ght> smelting takes forever
#2341 [18:24] <feenyx> hm, I seem to be missing a + , broken bot? :p
#2342 [18:24] <Kealper> DarkN1ght: the current things for android phones about minecraft are more map viewers than full game
#2343 [18:24] <DarkN1ght> no no
#2344 [18:24] <DarkN1ght> its not the game
#2345 [18:24] <DarkN1ght> it tell all recipes and block info eetc
#2346 [18:24] <feenyx> let me grab my phone, I'll get the names for you
#2347 [18:24] <Kealper> oh
#2348 [18:25] <DarkN1ght> its called canary
#2349 [18:25] <feenyx> that's one
#2350 [18:25] <feenyx> also Minedroid
#2351 [18:25] <Kealper> Minedroid lol
#2352 [18:25] <feenyx> orrr, wait, no, that's the map explorer
#2353 [18:25] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#2354 [18:25] <Kealper> woot!
#2355 [18:25] <Kealper> !enable
#2356 [18:26] <feenyx> DarkN1ght: there's also one called Minecraft Widget
#2357 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: minecraftcanary actually isn't bad. The day/night timer isn't all that fantastic anymore what with the ingame watch, but the recipe reference can be handy.
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#2359 [18:28] <fogwraith> It's.... working ;O
#2360 [18:28] <TheBix> it has been for quite some time
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#2362 [18:28] <feenyx> Minedroid is awesome though, but here's a hot tip: Don't move your actual world file over the first time. Just generate a new one and see if that works
#2363 [18:29] <fogwraith> I need one player for testing purposes, hands up
#2364 [18:29] <Sevaldsen> hello?
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#2366 [18:29] <feenyx> If you have a rather large world, it takes ages to transfer, aswell as ages to load :p
#2367 [18:29] <feenyx> fogwraith: will there be cake?
#2368 [18:29] * TheBix hand up
#2368 [18:29] * fogwraith summons a cake
#2368 [18:29] * feenyx puts his hand up
#2368 [18:29] <fogwraith> TheBix: join crafted.se:8888
#2369 [18:29] <TheBix> ok
#2370 [18:29] <Sevaldsen> Can anyone here tell me how to solve the problem with BAD VIDEO CARD DRIVERS????? please help me!
#2371 [18:29] <TheBix> get new video card drivers :P
#2372 [18:30] <feenyx> Sevaldsen: get new video card drivers
#2373 [18:30] <Sevaldsen> how?
#2374 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> get.. good drivers? :)
#2375 [18:30] <TheBix> internets
#2376 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> depends on your video card; what've you got?
#2377 [18:30] <TheBix> google?
#2378 [18:30] <Sevaldsen> what computer? :p
#2379 [18:30] <feenyx> either nvidia.com, ati.com, or intel I suppose
#2380 [18:30] <Sevaldsen> am really a noob
#2381 [18:30] <TheBix> then use google
#2382 [18:30] <TheBix> google was made for noobs
#2383 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> Sevaldsen: what video card have you got?
#2384 [18:30] <Sevaldsen> i dont know...how do i find out?
#2385 [18:31] <NinjaKirby> Too many cooks spoiling the brew
#2386 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> what version of Windows have you?
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#2388 [18:31] <Sevaldsen> windows 7
#2389 [18:31] <feenyx> NinjaKirby: too many cooks = more food!
#2390 [18:31] <mib_431ss3> Hey guys
#2391 [18:31] <mib_431ss3> Can some one help me out?
#2392 [18:32] <Sevaldsen> dopeghoti - i have windows 7
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#2394 [18:33] <feenyx> mib_431ss3: don't ask to ask, just ask the question :)
#2395 [18:33] <mib_431ss3> I just brought minecraft and its saying (when i try to play in browser) that i dint buy for it >.< how to i fix that?
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#2397 [18:33] <feenyx> mib_431ss3: it may take some time to register your account as paid
#2398 [18:33] <mib_431ss3> the transaction when threw and every thing
#2399 [18:33] <mib_431ss3> ooo ok
#2400 [18:33] <mib_431ss3> how long do you think?
#2401 [18:34] <Roenie> is there some problem with copying the online inventory of a player named X, and naming it Player so that it can be used off-line?
#2402 [18:34] <Roenie> because that's what I did and it seems to work
#2403 [18:34] <Roenie> but now, playing off-line I cannot remove/destroy anything
#2404 [18:34] <Roenie> online it works okay
#2405 [18:35] <Roenie> or could there be a different cause for this problem?
#2406 [18:35] <Sevaldsen> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#2407 [18:35] <Sevaldsen> thsi is what is says
#2408 [18:35] <Sevaldsen> can anyone help me???
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#2410 [18:35] <NinjaKirby> Uh, wow, I dropped onto 3 creepers and survived
#2411 [18:36] <Sevaldsen> god dammit!
#2412 [18:36] <Sevaldsen> please...i wanna play the game i payd 4 : (
#2413 [18:36] <Roenie> NinjaKirby, because they exploded in your nether region
#2414 [18:36] <mib_431ss3> ^i heard that
#2415 [18:36] <NinjaKirby> lol Roenie
#2416 [18:37] <Roenie> that's where the obsidian protection is, right
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#2418 [18:38] <feenyx> Sevaldsen: press Windowskey+R
#2419 [18:38] <feenyx> type dxdiag
#2420 [18:38] <feenyx> hit enter
#2421 [18:38] <feenyx> click the Display 1 tab
#2422 [18:38] <mib_431ss3> But yea how long does it take to the surver to registure your account as a paid one? id like to make shore that everything went well with the credit card and such :P
#2423 [18:38] <feenyx> and tell us what the Name of the card is
#2424 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> mib_431ss3: what is the account name you selected?
#2425 [18:38] <feenyx> mib_431ss3: could be anything from 20 minutes to 20 hours I'm afraid
#2426 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> and how long ago did you make the purchase?
#2427 [18:39] <mib_431ss3> i made the purches about 10 min. ago, i suppose i shoulnt be to hasty >.<
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#2429 [18:39] <mib_431ss3> purchase*
#2430 [18:40] <slide> do levers no longer work in SMP? or is there something i have to do to get them to work?
#2431 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> mib_431ss3: there was just a rather major transition with their servers, so payment processing may be slow today. give it an hour or to and you'll probably be good to go.
#2432 [18:40] <slide> like does it ahve to be connected to redstone or something?
#2433 [18:41] <mib_431ss3> Allright thanks guys ill come back if it dosent work in an houre or so ^_^
#2434 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> slide: amimation is buggy, but they still work, at least on my server
#2435 [18:41] <slide> oh its turning on/off the redstone, just the animation isnt working for switching the lever
#2436 [18:42] <slide> yea thanks
#2437 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> slide: cheers
#2438 [18:42] <slide> :D
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#2440 [18:42] <NinjaKirby> Wow, yeah, the animation doesn't work XD
#2441 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> well, it _sometimes_ doesn't work ;)
#2442 [18:42] <NinjaKirby> Functionality is there, won't argue
#2443 [18:42] <DarkN1ght> made my first gold ore
#2444 [18:42] <DarkN1ght> ingot*
#2445 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: grats!
#2446 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: do _not_ use gold to make tools; they're nigh-useless
#2447 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> gold is mainly decorative, save for timepieces
#2448 [18:43] <DarkN1ght> o
#2449 [18:43] <NinjaKirby> And perhaps Apples?
#2450 [18:43] <NinjaKirby> If they're still in-game
#2451 [18:43] <DarkN1ght> is it possible to use my single player level online?
#2452 [18:43] <zampa> damn....
#2453 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> gold tools are pretty, but degrade as quickly as wood tools do
#2454 [18:43] <zampa> i still have not found any gold ore.
#2455 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> zampa: dig deep :)
#2456 [18:44] <zampa> i have dug myself perhaps...
#2457 [18:44] <zampa> 60 tiles down?
#2458 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> that should be deep enough, but gold is rare.
#2459 [18:44] <DarkN1ght> i got 3 diamonds
#2460 [18:44] <zampa> i find iron here and there....
#2461 [18:44] <NinjaKirby> DarkN1ght: Yes, I just copied mine into my Server and it worked perfectly
#2462 [18:44] <LatHans> DarkN1ght: yes, it is possible to copy the savegame from a single player save to a online server
#2463 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> just not.. useful; kind of like gold in the real world is pretty, but of no practical vlaue
#2464 [18:44] <NinjaKirby> Although I would recommend putting all your inventory in a Chest, otherwise it seems to become lost
#2465 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: the problem then is remembering where the chest is ;)
#2466 [18:45] <NinjaKirby> True :P
#2467 [18:45] <DarkN1ght> u can use coords
#2468 [18:45] <DarkN1ght> f3
#2469 [18:45] <Sevaldsen> feenyx - i did what you said
#2470 [18:46] <Sevaldsen> feenyx - what do you want to know, its sas alot here
#2471 [18:46] <Sevaldsen> sais*
#2472 [18:46] <feenyx> the line that says Name
#2473 [18:46] <DarkN1ght> do torches stay lit forever?
#2474 [18:46] <feenyx> DarkN1ght: currently, yes, but that's gonna change
#2475 [18:47] <DarkN1ght> that sucks!
#2476 [18:47] <feenyx> DarkN1ght: we'll get lanterns instead
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#2478 [18:47] <zampa> once that is changed... will there be any other permanent light source?
#2479 [18:47] <zampa> ah
#2480 [18:47] <feenyx> :)(
#2481 [18:47] <Sevaldsen> feenyx - am norwegan, soo...can you give me a hint 4 what am looking 4? :)
#2482 [18:47] <xaviergm_> How do u kill a ghost?
#2483 [18:47] <feenyx> Sevaldsen: sec, I'll pm you
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#2485 [18:49] <feenyx> xaviergm_: how can you kill that which is already dead?
#2486 [18:49] <DarkN1ght> is there a easy way to find where ur place is when u die?
#2487 [18:49] <xaviergm_> I mean I wanna disconnect xaviergmail
#2488 [18:50] <xaviergm_> To get my nick back
#2489 [18:50] <Tajha> If it's registered, the command should be /msg nickserv ghost xaviergmail yourpassword
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#2491 [18:51] <xaviergm_> Ty
#2492 [18:51] <DarkN1ght> wat do i do with diamonds?
#2493 [18:51] <feenyx> DarkN1ght: yes, pay attention to where you were going to start with. Mark it with dirt towers and/or torches :p
#2494 [18:51] <zampa> guess digging 4 squares wide hole
#2495 [18:51] <zampa> has its disadvatages...
#2496 [18:52] <zampa> hwen i try to mine out a huge area takes alot of time
#2497 [18:52] <Tajha> Or press f3 while you're at you're place and write down the coordinates
#2498 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> that's cheating ;)
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#2500 [18:53] <xaviergm_> WTF
#2501 [18:53] <xaviergm_> Lol
#2502 [18:53] <DarkN1ght> r there any cheats for this game?
#2503 [18:53] <feenyx> no.
#2504 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> depends on what you mean by 'cheat'
#2505 [18:53] <xaviergm_> O I have autorejoin on my comp
#2506 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> knowing your exact location with the F3 key could be considered such by some
#2507 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> but hey, it's your game; play however you like :)
#2508 [18:54] <Tajha> Spawning items in multiplayer is apparently considered cheating by some, too
#2509 [18:54] * Tajha shrugs
#2509 [18:55] <xaviergm_> Is auth server back up
#2510 [18:55] <xaviergm_> ?
#2511 [18:56] <xaviergm_> Brb
#2512 [18:56] <xaviergm_> Yay
#2513 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> more or less, yes
#2514 [18:56] <xaviergm_> :d
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#2516 [18:57] <xaviergm_> Ima play mc on teamviewer on my iPod touch
#2517 [18:57] <xaviergm_> :D
#2518 [18:58] <NinjaKirby> Umm... sorry for the newbish question, but do Portals work in SMP? I just walked in mine for the first time since transitioning, and nothings happening
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#2520 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> They don't
#2521 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: they do not
#2522 [18:58] <feenyx> NinjaKirby: Portals haven't worked in SMP so far
#2523 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> they make swanky noises though
#2524 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> and are good for waterlocks
#2525 [18:58] <Rait> Is minecraft back up?
#2526 [18:58] <NinjaKirby> Actually, I'll try relighting... it? huh, I wonder if the explored area I made before copying it still exists
#2527 [18:58] <bloodman> hello
#2528 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> Rait: more or less
#2529 [18:59] <Rait> Ah, i still can't get into my server
#2530 [18:59] <bloodman> i have been having problems with that java interception connection exception thingy...
#2531 [18:59] <bloodman> any one else had this problem?
#2532 [19:00] <Rait> "Internal client error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection rufused"
#2533 [19:00] <Rait> for trying to connect to my server
#2534 [19:01] <bloodman> ya
#2535 [19:01] <bloodman> no
#2536 [19:01] <bloodman> to just any server...
#2537 [19:01] <bloodman> i try to connect to 173.208.58.75
#2538 [19:02] <bloodman> and it doesnt work
#2539 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> !check
#2540 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> !check 173.208.58.75
#2541 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> !check 173.208.58.75
#2542 [19:03] <Rait> !check 71.221.31.172
#2543 [19:03] <bloodman> !check 173.208.58.75
#2544 [19:03] <bloodman> ...
#2545 [19:03] <Rait> Any solution to "Internal client error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection rufused"?
#2546 [19:03] <bloodman> nope
#2547 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Server's probably not running there rait
#2548 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> or it's not set up right
#2549 [19:04] <bloodman> ...
#2550 [19:04] <Rait> XD My mine craft is laughing at me.
#2551 [19:04] <Rait> minecraft*
#2552 [19:07] <Rait> :/ i don't see how i have it set up wrong, the port's are good.
#2553 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to connect with 127.0.0.1
#2554 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> the port's what are good?
#2555 [19:08] <Rait> Eh, now it says i can't connect to minecraft.net on login.
#2556 [19:10] <feenyx> Rait: that would be because the servers are heavily loaded at the moment. Try again in 10 seconds :p
#2557 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> "Haha, resin keeps going in to infinite cache writing loops!" - Notch
#2558 [19:14] <zampa> ugh...
#2559 [19:14] <zampa> 2k cobblestone
#2560 [19:14] <zampa> it stats to take up quite some space.
#2561 [19:14] <zampa> starts
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#2565 [19:20] <feenyx> another happy customer :)
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#2567 [19:20] <zampa> how rare is redstone compared to gold?
#2568 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Not that rare
#2569 [19:21] <Shadow386> redstone gets about as common as iron once you get low enough
#2570 [19:21] <Shadow386> in cases for me though
#2571 [19:21] * GreyVulpine nods
#2571 [19:21] <zampa> im about 70 tiles deep
#2572 [19:22] <zampa> found my first redstone, iron is still semi rare
#2573 [19:22] <zampa> no gold so far...
#2574 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> indeed, RS is much more common that gold IME
#2575 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> LL and RS are about tied for rarity
#2576 [19:23] <Shadow386> anyone else having issues logging in? >_>
#2577 [19:23] <DarkN1ght> whats redstone used for?
#2578 [19:23] <zampa> oh
#2579 [19:23] <zampa> a diamond before gold heh
#2580 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> DarkN1ght - Electricity
#2581 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> circuits
#2582 [19:23] <Shadow386> DarkN1ght http://minecraftwiki.net/Redstone
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#2584 [19:25] <zampa> hmm
#2585 [19:25] <zampa> this tile my iron pick cant mine.... >.<
#2586 [19:25] <SquireGuy> Hi! I play MineCraft on Mac, and I can't open the texture folder. Is there any way to?
#2587 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> zampa: is it dark grey with light grey bits?
#2588 [19:25] <zampa> aye
#2589 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> SquireGuy - ~/library/application support/minecraft/texturepacks
#2590 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> that's Adminium- the bottom of the world
#2591 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> you can't dig through it
#2592 [19:26] <SquireGuy> Thanks Vulpine.
#2593 [19:26] <zampa> oh... so i cant go deeper?
#2594 [19:26] <Shadow386> nope
#2595 [19:26] <Shadow386> hold f3 and tell us your...Z I think
#2596 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> y
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#2598 [19:26] <Shadow386> yes, the y
#2599 [19:26] <zampa> -64
#2600 [19:26] <zampa> or close to it
#2601 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> You're at the bottom
#2602 [19:27] <Poopballz> Do monsters teleport when lead through a portal?
#2603 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> Y is the vertical altitude.
#2604 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> Goes from -64 to +64
#2605 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> Poopballz: no, only players move through portals, and it is not instantaneous
#2606 [19:29] <DarkN1ght> yayy finnally found a way to get back to my spot easy giant towers ftw!
#2607 [19:30] <Poopballz> Indeed, but then how do they act around them? do they treat it as a wall or walk through it like it's nothing
#2608 [19:30] <zampa> atleast now i know im deep enough to find gold and such heh
#2609 [19:31] <Wahrheit> !paid wahrheit
#2610 [19:31] <Wahrheit> :D
#2611 [19:31] <DarkN1ght> awesome half a heart
#2612 [19:31] <Wahrheit> I'm so glad that's still here.
#2613 [19:31] <Wahrheit> Shadow386: I heard the server is just kind of eating its own marblecake right now.
#2614 [19:31] <Wahrheit> :(
#2615 [19:31] <Poopballz> DopGhoti: Read up
#2616 [19:31] <Shadow386> Wahrheit i'd guess that
#2617 [19:31] <Shadow386> its being a dirtbag and not letting me fix my client
#2618 [19:32] <Shadow386> >_>
#2619 [19:33] <Wahrheit> Shadow386: Given the craptastic spazzfest that is mcnet when trying to access with firefox, I'd say so
#2620 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> Poopballz: I'm not sure how the critter / mob AI reacts to portals, if at all.
#2621 [19:33] <Shadow386> lol
#2622 [19:33] <DarkN1ght> i use orca browser
#2623 [19:34] <Wahrheit> I use firefox because firesheep
#2624 [19:35] <DarkN1ght> orca used firefox addons and it has online storage for settings and passwords alias bookmarks
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#2630 [19:36] <Shadow386> i use chrome cause I'm awesome
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#2632 [19:36] <DarkN1ght> when u die how long ur stuff stay where it was
#2633 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: no; you use Chrome because _it's_ awesome.
#2634 [19:36] <Roenie> 5min
#2635 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: about 5 minutes
#2636 [19:37] <DarkN1ght> damn it
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#2643 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: that's not welcome language in #MineCraftHelp .
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#2645 [19:39] <zampa> GreyVulpine: Well -64Z cant be bottom...
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#2647 [19:39] <zampa> since im at -73 right now...
#2648 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: Meddle not in the affairs of server admins, for you are crunchy and go well with catsup.
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#2651 [19:39] <Shadow386> mmm catsup
#2652 [19:40] <Shadow386> ive had too much lately, got a canker on the inside :x
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#2661 [19:41] <NinjaKirby> An entire chunk just failed to load for some reason when I walked back to my base, and I saw... well, a 16x16 hole and could see a Blue bottom etc. I presume... that isn't saved like that?
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#2668 [19:42] <Shadow386> just relog
#2669 [19:42] <Shadow386> chunk error
#2670 [19:42] <NinjaKirby> Ah, client, not server side?
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#2672 [19:44] <feenyx> NinjaKirby: indeed
#2673 [19:44] <NinjaKirby> Good news ^^;; I'd rather not have that lingering.
#2674 [19:45] <zampa> ugh ever iron is rare to find ...
#2675 [19:45] <zampa> and no trace of gold what so ever.
#2676 [19:45] <NinjaKirby> I haven't scowered lots for Resources, but I only have 3x64 piles of that stuff, and continue to use Stone tools.
#2677 [19:46] <zampa> i have a 5 x 64 wide
#2678 [19:46] <NinjaKirby> Redstone is easier to find then Iron, I swear
#2679 [19:46] <zampa> i found one group of redstone, 2 groups if iron
#2680 [19:46] <zampa> and one single diamond
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#2682 [19:47] <NinjaKirby> Nice :3 I have like, 6 Diamond
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#2684 [19:47] <NinjaKirby> I was really lucky I think on my first map, first cavern system near my base literally had about 9 visible Diamond deposits
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#2686 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> I have 15 diamond blocks, about 100 iron blocks, and a passel of gold
#2687 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> and that iron is left over after making the monorail
#2688 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> which is, shall we say, long
#2689 [19:48] <NinjaKirby> Similar to the "YouTube Video" long? :P
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#2691 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> no, in that they actually go places
#2692 [19:48] <NinjaKirby> Ah, hehe, noice
#2693 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/map/
#2694 [19:49] <NinjaKirby> Is this available to view on your server?
#2695 [19:49] <NinjaKirby> lol, are you kidding me, Google Mapping system, nice
#2696 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/map/?lat=0.459534&lng=0.637721&zoom=8 is even more impressive in-game
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#2698 [19:50] <NinjaKirby> Is that all fencing down the walkways too? Any /give commands to make all this? :P
#2699 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> nope
#2700 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> all done legitimately
#2701 [19:51] <NinjaKirby> Good to hear, more epic when it's a "sincere build"
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#2703 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> the only /give commands have been when the server ate inventory or when I had to rebuild a player's profile
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#2705 [19:52] <Thomas111114> Hey guys i recently brought minecraft (like 1 1/2 - 2 hours ago) and it still says that i havent brought the game even when it said that the payment was made :( any suggestions?
#2706 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/map/?lat=0.521856&lng=0.529238&zoom=8 may look like a stadium, but is actually just the top level of a large tree farm
#2707 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> This was the source of a lot of the wood for those fences you were talking about.
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#2709 [19:52] <abcdefg> hi
#2710 [19:52] <abcdefg> is the server still down?
#2711 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> intermittently
#2712 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Thomas111114 - It could take up to a day to process
#2713 [19:53] <NinjaKirby> Uh, wow, I guess... a sheep caught fire, then touched a tree, which started the forest fire? It looks...
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#2715 [19:53] <Yinsho> Hello.
#2716 [19:54] <NinjaKirby> Lo there Yinsho
#2717 [19:54] <Thomas111114> :P weak, how does it recconise that i payed for my account? is it like manually checked by a human of just a computer scan thinggy?
#2718 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Thomas111114 - It's automated
#2719 [19:55] <Yinsho> I need some help please. :/ And I fail at searching forums.
#2720 [19:55] <NinjaKirby> What's the trouble Yinsho? :)
#2721 [19:56] <Yinsho> When I start the game, after I put in my username and password, I get the Mojang logo screen, and then MineCraft stops responding.
#2722 [19:56] <Thomas111114> alright :P so wait a day and check back to see if it worked? (if it hasent what should i do?)
#2723 [19:56] <Yinsho> And not just today, about the server thing.
#2724 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> Yinsho: that's probably related to the auth server downtime we're experiencing right now
#2725 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> ...oh
#2726 [19:56] <Yinsho> I've tried it for like the last week. Does it every time.
#2727 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> Thomas111114 - You then email mojang, with information on transaction id, your username, and your contact info
#2728 [19:57] <Yinsho> Any ideas?
#2729 [19:57] <NinjaKirby> Firewall isn't getting in the way, I guess?
#2730 [19:57] <Yinsho> Not that I know of. And it's not a problem of not being able to log in.
#2731 [19:57] <Thomas111114> Allright man thanks you've been help full ^_^
#2732 [19:57] <Yinsho> Because if I put in the wrong info, I do get a message about it, and it gives me the login screen again.
#2733 [19:58] <DarkN1ght> wats the easiest n00b friendly way to start a server on windows?
#2734 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> !server
#2735 [19:58] <zampa> heh 40 redstone, 1 diamond, 4 iron ore
#2736 [19:58] <zampa> after mininng out like a 20x20 area at bottom
#2737 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> zampa: 20x20x__?
#2738 [19:59] <Yinsho> I guess no one has any ideas?
#2739 [19:59] <NinjaKirby> Yinsho: JRE is the latest version, etc?
#2740 [19:59] <Yinsho> >:
#2741 [19:59] <zampa> DopeGhoti: something like that aye
#2742 [19:59] <Yinsho> JRE means Java Runtime Environment right? .3.
#2743 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> zampa: I was more wondering what the measure of that last dimension was
#2744 [20:00] <NinjaKirby> Yinsho: Aye, make sure it's up to date :/
#2745 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> Yinsho: wow, that's old; you want 1.6.23
#2746 [20:00] <DarkN1ght> how do i know wat ip to connect for my own server
#2747 [20:00] <DarkN1ght> im on a router
#2748 [20:00] <zampa> X and Y
#2749 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: 127.0.0.1
#2750 [20:00] <Yinsho> I went to Java.com and downloaded the newest one already.
#2751 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> Yinsho: I thought you said you were running .3
#2752 [20:00] <Yinsho> No, .3. is a face. >>
#2753 [20:00] <NinjaKirby> Dope: I think that what a "smiley", lol
#2754 [20:00] <zampa> 20^2 squares
#2755 [20:00] <zampa> at bottom level
#2756 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> zampa: but what height?
#2757 [20:01] <zampa> bottom
#2758 [20:01] <zampa> once again
#2759 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> zampa: how deep a swath did you dig?
#2760 [20:01] <zampa> at all the adium ores
#2761 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> Yinsho: Might be worth removing Minecraft, saving the maps of course, and try re-downloading the Game package again
#2762 [20:01] <Yinsho> Zampa.
#2763 [20:01] <DarkN1ght> damn says im not premium :(
#2764 [20:01] <Yinsho> He means how many layers of the ground did you dig up.
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#2766 [20:01] <zampa> oh
#2767 [20:01] <zampa> once i were there
#2768 [20:01] <Yinsho> I don't have any maps, NinjaKirby.
#2769 [20:01] <zampa> 2
#2770 [20:02] <Yinsho> :/ As I said, the game hasn't even starting once yet.
#2771 [20:02] <zampa> just so i fit.
#2772 [20:02] <NinjaKirby> Fair enough, backup your entire game (Might as well, it's small), and just re-download everything
#2773 [20:02] <Yinsho> Tried that. But I guess I'll try again.
#2774 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> zampa: I have found that I discover many more veins when I make my digs 4 meters tall
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#2776 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> Yinsho: which OS?
#2777 [20:02] <NinjaKirby> Ah, well, once is probably enough, but why not ^^;;
#2778 [20:02] <Yinsho> Vista.
#2779 [20:02] <zampa> DopeGhoti: ill keep that in mind.
#2780 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> Yinsho: 64- or 32-bit?
#2781 [20:03] <Yinsho> 32 I think. Not exactly sure how to check though.
#2782 [20:03] <Yinsho> It's Vista Home Basic.
#2783 [20:03] <Ackmey> Hey, my 4-clock keeps burning out, I can't figure out what's wrong, any help? (Design D)
#2784 [20:03] <Ackmey> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/d/d7/Clock_generators.gif
#2785 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> to check: open the menu-formerly-known-as-Start, right-click Computer
#2786 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> and select Properties
#2787 [20:03] <DarkN1ght> !paid dark_nightmar3
#2788 [20:04] <Yinsho> 32-bit.
#2789 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> Ackmey: you have space between all the vertical wires, yes?
#2790 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> (and horizontal ones for that matter?)
#2791 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> Yinsho: and what video card?
#2792 [20:04] <DarkN1ght> minecraft is working!
#2793 [20:05] <Ackmey> Um, There aren't any vertical wires involved in that circuit, and I'm building it exactly like in the diagram.
#2794 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> Ackmey: Design D, you said, right?
#2795 [20:05] <DarkN1ght> i keep getting lost connection is it my server or is it minecraft servers?
#2796 [20:05] <Yinsho> Sec.
#2797 [20:05] <Ackmey> It runs for a bit just great, and then burn out. If I make a new world and built it, it runs until I relog and then it dies.
#2798 [20:05] <Yinsho> Finding it.
#2799 [20:05] <Ackmey> Yep design D
#2800 [20:06] <DarkN1ght> any1?
#2801 [20:06] <Yinsho> ..I'm going to copy and paste the info so...I'm sorry if it ends up spamming the chat. D:
#2802 [20:06] <Yinsho> Graphics -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Display adapter type Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family Total available graphics memory 358 MB Dedicated graphics memory 0 MB Dedicated system memory 128 MB Shared system memory 230 MB Display adapter driver version 7.14.10
#2803 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> Ackmey: (when I say vertical, I don't mean Y-axis, i mean north-south axis presuming that 'up' on the diagram is 'north'.
#2804 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> )
#2805 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> Yinsho: back on that properties screen, how much RAM does it say your system has?
#2806 [20:07] <Yinsho> Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB
#2807 [20:07] <Yinsho> Gaming graphics 358 MB Total available graphics memory
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#2809 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> k, just checking :)
#2810 [20:08] <Yinsho> Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 560 @ 2.13GHz
#2811 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Sorry, but I do not know offhand the location to go to for Intel/965 drivers
#2812 [20:08] <DarkN1ght> where is server settings saved to?
#2813 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: server.properties
#2814 [20:09] <DarkN1ght> yea but where
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#2816 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> in the same place as the server binary
#2817 [20:09] <DarkN1ght> i dont know where any of this game is installed
#2818 [20:10] <Ackmey> Any help with my circuit?
#2819 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> Ackmey: so your circuit ingame is 7x7 blocks, and it's still fizzling?
#2820 [20:11] <Ackmey> Yep.
#2821 [20:11] <Ackmey> I read that tick speed is linked to fps, is burnout linked to tick speed? Is it possible that circuit is burning out because fps is too high? 0.o
#2822 [20:12] <DarkN1ght> minecradt server wont open?
#2823 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> I doubt it, MC runs crazy-fast on my machine and I"ve never had any clocks fizz on me
#2824 [20:12] <DarkN1ght> exe dont do anything now when i open it
#2825 [20:14] <DarkN1ght> ok nm had to redownload it wierd
#2826 [20:14] <DarkN1ght> still cant connect to my server help please?
#2827 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> What are you connecting with?
#2828 [20:15] <Yinsho> Mmmm, can't connect to the server yet, so I can't see if redownloading it again helped at all.
#2829 [20:15] <DarkN1ght> wat u mean with?
#2830 [20:15] <Ackmey> DopeGhoti, I just turned limit framerate on and my circuit started working 0.o
#2831 [20:16] <Yinsho> And I deleted the .minecraft folder, so the play offline options gray now. >_>
#2832 [20:16] <DarkN1ght> i keep losing connection when i try
#2833 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> Interesting, and also yay, Ackmey
#2834 [20:16] <Ackmey> ^^
#2835 [20:16] <DarkN1ght> now it says took to long wtf
#2836 [20:16] <Yinsho> Oh, yay!
#2837 [20:16] <Yinsho> Downloading the packages again now.
#2838 [20:16] <Yinsho> Waiting.
#2839 [20:16] * NinjaKirby plugs his Microwave into his TV to listen to Internet Radio
#2839 [20:16] <Ackmey> What's the command to view fps again?
#2840 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> F3
#2841 [20:16] <Yinsho> Dang it. Nope.
#2842 [20:17] <Yinsho> Went to black (Not Responding) screen again.
#2843 [20:17] <Yinsho> *Sighs*
#2844 [20:17] <Ackmey> Hm I turned it back off but circuits are on, I'm gonna try and see what it takes to get it to fizz
#2845 [20:17] <DarkN1ght> internal client error: java.net.connectexception: connection timed out: connect
#2846 [20:18] <Yinsho> I don't even get that.
#2847 [20:18] <Yinsho> I get the Mojang logo, then it freezes.
#2848 [20:18] <Yinsho> With no error messages or anything.
#2849 [20:18] <DarkN1ght> im starting to get pissed
#2850 [20:19] <Yinsho> One of my friends told me they heard a lot of people have trouble with it on vista, could that have anything to do with it?
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#2852 [20:19] <Ackmey> Okay 95 fps and no fizz
#2853 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> I play on vista just fine
#2854 [20:19] <NinjaKirby> lol darkn1ght, you're trying to set up a *Server*, damn
#2855 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> Yinsho: one way to find out is to boot a LiveCD of another OS and see if you have the same problems there
#2856 [20:19] <Ackmey> Maybe after all chunks stop updating it'll go up
#2857 [20:19] <DarkN1ght> yes any tips wat im doing wrong
#2858 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> Ackmey: you realize that a RS torch or wire turning on or off warrants a chunk update, yes? :)
#2859 [20:20] <Yinsho> Something I forgot to mention.
#2860 [20:20] <Ackmey> :(
#2861 [20:20] <Yinsho> When it freezes, when I click it, it brings up one of those "Bluh" has stopped responding messages.
#2862 [20:20] <Ackmey> Well there are like 4 clocks running now I'll turn some off
#2863 [20:20] <Yinsho> It says Java(TM) SE binary has stopped.
#2864 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> Yinsho: have you tried reinstalling Java?
#2865 [20:21] <Ackmey> hahahaha
#2866 [20:21] <Ackmey> 520 fps when I popped one of the circuits
#2867 [20:21] <Ackmey> instafizz
#2868 [20:21] <Yinsho> Like just downloading the newest version and running it, or completely uninstalling and reinstalling it?
#2869 [20:21] <Yinsho> Because I did try updating it, and that didn't help.
#2870 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> un/reinstall
#2871 [20:22] <NinjaKirby> DarkN1ght, what error messages are you getting in the console when you try and connect?
#2872 [20:22] <Yinsho> No, I haven't tried uninstalling it. I guess I can though.
#2873 [20:22] <DarkN1ght> internal client error: java.net.connectexception: connection timed out: connect
#2874 [20:22] <Ackmey> That's something that should be in the wiki... I've been struggling with this for a while
#2875 [20:23] <DarkN1ght> trying to connect with ip 127.0.0.1
#2876 [20:23] <Ackmey> I'm gonna try and figure out exactly how much fps it is to stop the 4 clock
#2877 [20:23] <NinjaKirby> Followed by the port number?
#2878 [20:23] <DarkN1ght> no.,..
#2879 [20:23] <DarkN1ght> wats the port number?
#2880 [20:23] <NinjaKirby> I always add the port number, I dunno if it'll go without it
#2881 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> It does
#2882 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> if it's not changed from default
#2883 [20:23] <NinjaKirby> Check Server.Properties in Notepad
#2884 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Ackmey: 520FPS? Zarks.
#2885 [20:23] <NinjaKirby> Ah, nice to know Grey :)
#2886 [20:23] <DarkN1ght> wheres it located on windows?
#2887 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Whereever you downloaded the server.exe to
#2888 [20:24] <NinjaKirby> Where-ever the Server.jar thingy is, it'll unload those files into the same directory
#2889 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: same place as your server binary
#2890 [20:24] <Ackmey> Dopeghoti, On a blank map with everything turned to minimum and after the circuits all stopped
#2891 [20:24] <NinjaKirby> Oh, executable, aiya
#2892 [20:24] <DarkN1ght> dunno where that is
#2893 [20:24] <NinjaKirby> I cannot articulate my response suitably
#2894 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: We are not telepsychotronic; only you know to which location you put your downloads on your computer.
#2895 [20:24] <Ackmey> Right now it's going from 200-350 and the circuit stays up, I'm just gonna slowly remove redstone from the clock output until it gets too high
#2896 [20:24] <Rait> I'm also having the same problem as DarkN1ight.
#2897 [20:24] <DarkN1ght> i have it in a folder
#2898 [20:25] <DarkN1ght> it didnt put anything else with it
#2899 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> Did you run the server?
#2900 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> Did a window appear when you did?
#2901 [20:25] <DarkN1ght> yes
#2902 [20:25] <DarkN1ght> yes
#2903 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> look in that folder again.
#2904 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> Look hard.
#2905 [20:26] <NinjaKirby> It won't have a recognisable file icon per say, as the Extension is literally "properties"
#2906 [20:26] <DarkN1ght> im not retarded the damn folder is empty only thing in it is minecraft_server.exe and minecraft.exe
#2907 [20:26] <DarkN1ght> it must save it somewhere else by default
#2908 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> go go gadget congative dissonance: either it is empty or there are files in it. Select one and continue.
#2909 [20:26] <NinjaKirby> I'm outta my depth here, I haven't used the Executable
#2910 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> It's the same as the .jar
#2911 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Just wrapped in exe form
#2912 [20:27] <NinjaKirby> Awesome, lol
#2913 [20:27] <Yinsho> Uuuuuum...okay, I need help here.
#2914 [20:27] <DarkN1ght> omg serioues i just told u 2 files in the folder
#2915 [20:27] <Yinsho> o.o
#2916 [20:27] <DarkN1ght> when it downloaded update it didnt show a path it was automatic
#2917 [20:27] <Yinsho> I have like 4 different Java things on my program list.
#2918 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> DarkN1ght: you also just said the folder was empty at the same time.
#2919 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> Yinsho: that could be realted to the problems you're having :)
#2920 [20:28] <Yinsho> Java DB 10.5.3.0 from Sun Microsystems, Inc.
#2921 [20:28] <DarkN1ght> yes along with the files i mentioned
#2922 [20:28] <Yinsho> Java(TM) 6update 7 from Sun Microsystems
#2923 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> Would the Java Path Variable cause problems at this stage? If the files aren't "spawning"
#2924 [20:28] <Yinsho> Java(TM) 6 update 23 from Oracle
#2925 [20:28] <DarkN1ght> im on 64bit windows 7
#2926 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: not really, as he's running it from the GUI.
#2927 [20:28] <Yinsho> And Java(TM) SE Development Kit 6 update 22 from Oracle.
#2928 [20:29] <DarkN1ght> i dunno where else it would save the files
#2929 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> Yinsho: the latter three are probably fighting. Get rid of them all and install one copy, fresh.
#2930 [20:29] <Yinsho> What should I do with all of these? ._.
#2931 [20:29] <Yinsho> Okay.
#2932 [20:30] <NinjaKirby> DarkN1ght: Run the executable explicitly as Administrator? I dunno if you have to click the "unblock" thing as well in Properties? Probably not.
#2933 [20:30] * OODavo can't get Unetbootin to run so that he can switch distros already. :(
#2933 [20:30] <DarkN1ght> which file the server or game?
#2934 [20:30] <NinjaKirby> I was thinking the server, give it all the privalages it wants to work it's business, and spawn the required files. Maybe. XD
#2935 [20:31] <DarkN1ght> wth
#2936 [20:31] <NinjaKirby> O_o taw
#2937 [20:31] <DarkN1ght> i closed server tried reopening and now it wont open
#2938 [20:31] <Yinsho> Should I close firefox before I uninstall these Java files?
#2939 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> Yinsho: probably, as FF uses Java.
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#2941 [20:32] <NinjaKirby> Dark: Nothing left in Windows Processes in the Task Manager?
#2942 [20:32] <Yinsho> 'Kay.
#2943 [20:32] <DarkN1ght> nope
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#2945 [20:33] <NinjaKirby> It sounds like one of those issues where you just gotta restart the ol' compooter. Double click the Executable, get some mouse pointer loading activity, and nothing happens?
#2946 [20:33] <mib_5u3h2u> guys can some one help me my minecraft is simultaneous Crashing .... any way to solve this?
#2947 [20:34] <NinjaKirby> Dual Clients for simultaneous crashing, hardcore
#2948 [20:34] <zampa> finally
#2949 [20:34] <DarkN1ght> how do u set mirc to auto join server and channel
#2950 [20:35] <DarkN1ght> multiple servers
#2951 [20:35] <zampa> after about 5000 cobblestone i got my first gold.
#2952 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> tools -> perform
#2953 [20:35] <dopeghoti> out of scope.
#2954 [20:35] <NinjaKirby> My brain exploded
#2955 [20:35] <zampa> should i really be saved all theese cobblestone?
#2956 [20:35] <zampa> doubt ill be able to use it all...
#2957 [20:36] <Rait> could a texture pack cause the "internal client error: java.net.connectexception?
#2958 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> unlikely
#2959 [20:37] <NinjaKirby> Zampa: Hell yes, Gravel though, I would throw it all away
#2960 [20:37] <zampa> NinjaKirby: only got like 50 gravel whatsoever.
#2961 [20:37] <NinjaKirby> But that's just me, Cobblestone is great for building, and it's fairly resiliant to explosions.
#2962 [20:37] <Ackmey> Okay, well for anyone who is interested in knowing, at some point with an fps > 500 your 4-clock will burn out. Just sayin'.
#2963 [20:37] <NinjaKirby> Zampa: Good :P
#2964 [20:37] <Rait> GreyVulpine: when i logged into my server without the texure pack, it worked, but now i have the texure pack on and it won't let me in
#2965 [20:37] <zampa> and like 5k cobblestone great to know
#2966 [20:38] <zampa> ill try building stuff with it.
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#2968 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Weird.
#2969 [20:38] <zampa> trying to decide if i shoudl try to go for that compass...
#2970 [20:38] <zampa> or a iron pickaxe first
#2971 [20:38] <zampa> gold*
#2972 [20:38] <NinjaKirby> Oh yeah Zampa, covert half to regular Stone. And then give me it XD
#2973 [20:39] <Rait> Could someone try connecting to me server?
#2974 [20:39] <zampa> or wait...
#2975 [20:39] <NinjaKirby> Iron Pick, would be my preference of the two, acquire all the better Ore deposits.
#2976 [20:39] <Ackmey> When in multiplayer, will the server run at a certain fps that will dictate speed of redstone?
#2977 [20:39] <zampa> gold were poitless..
#2978 [20:39] <zampa> were thinking about diamond.
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#2980 [20:41] <NinjaKirby> DarkN1ght, how's the Server going? Loading at all?
#2981 [20:41] <DarkN1ght> nope
#2982 [20:41] <NinjaKirby> Fffff-
#2983 [20:41] <DarkN1ght> i using killswitch to to some processes but not working at all
#2984 [20:41] <DarkN1ght> to kill*
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#2986 [20:42] <NinjaKirby> Well, the fact none of the Server files are spawning is really discouraging :/
#2987 [20:42] <DarkN1ght> the games files didnt either they saved somewhere by default and i dunno where
#2988 [20:42] <NinjaKirby> Either PC Restart, maybe just log out/in, try running it again. In a new folder maybe.
#2989 [20:42] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, want the exact name of a File to search for on your PC?
#2990 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> What does the server console say?
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#2992 [20:43] <DarkN1ght> yes
#2993 [20:43] <Nirvam> hi guys
#2994 [20:43] <NinjaKirby> "server.properties" is one of the file names, that'll be one of a kind on your Windows install. Last resort.
#2995 [20:43] <NinjaKirby> But it *should* be in that folder T_T
#2996 [20:44] <Nirvam> I'm probably am not the only one who asked, but is there a way to switch my Username for Multiplayer besides memory editing?
#2997 [20:44] <DarkN1ght> nothing
#2998 [20:44] <DarkN1ght> i already had serarched properties and nothing
#2999 [20:44] <NinjaKirby> I'm glad I never used the Executable.
#3000 [20:44] <DarkN1ght> in java folder?
#3001 [20:45] <Nirvam> 'sup? been on linux and windows, maybe i can be of assistance?
#3002 [20:46] <DarkN1ght> wierd
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#3004 [20:47] <DarkN1ght> it saved it in my browseer folder
#3005 [20:47] <NinjaKirby> Tcheme Tcheba?
#3006 [20:47] <DarkN1ght> it saved everything in that folder
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#3009 [20:48] <Nirvam> dumpdidump
#3010 [20:50] <DarkN1ght> server file opens in task and closed instantly
#3011 [20:51] <Nirvam> how do you call it?
#3012 [20:51] <Nirvam> maybe run it via console for debug output?
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#3014 [20:52] <Nirvam> or running in windows ad a "pause" to the last line of the .bat file
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#3017 [20:55] * OODavo is downloading Fedora .iso now.
#3017 [20:56] <NinjaKirby> Nirvam: He's going by Executable, I presume that could prevent that troubleshooting
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#3020 [20:57] <OODavo> NinjaKirby: One could run the executable through a .bat file, though.
#3021 [20:57] <NinjaKirby> I've got some floating Sand, holding up water. Last time I tried sticking Glass under it for support, the rest collapsed. I guess I can expect that everytime -_-
#3022 [20:57] <NinjaKirby> OODave: Ah, true enough :3
#3023 [20:58] <NinjaKirby> Leaving a square gap, that way it shouldn't tamper with the floating sand... *tests*
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#3026 [20:59] <Yinsho> Okay, I'm back, for now.
#3027 [20:59] <Yinsho> Downloading the newest Java, but it's SLOOOOOOW.
#3028 [20:59] <Yinsho> >:C
#3029 [20:59] <Yinsho> Less than 20kb/s
#3030 [21:00] <OODavo> Yinsho: Ouch. :(
#3031 [21:00] <NinjaKirby> I had trouble acquiring one version of it, the 16Mb one from Download.com was the only way for me to acquire it
#3032 [21:00] <Kealper> i can safely say that my music collection is over 9000
#3033 [21:00] <Kealper> </random>
#3034 [21:00] <Yinsho> OODavo: I know.
#3035 [21:01] <Yinsho> NinjaKirby: I'm downloading it from Java.com
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#3037 [21:01] <Yinsho> The offline version, because it has a bigger file size.
#3038 [21:01] <mib_5u3h2u> Guys what is the error " Internal Client Error: java.connectExxeption: Connection Times Out: Connect" ???
#3039 [21:01] <Yinsho> So I assume it has more resources in it or something?
#3040 [21:01] <Yinsho> *Shrugs.*
#3041 [21:01] <Nirvam> ok guys, to all the hosts out tere: anyone found a way to get around the minecraft.net serverissues?
#3042 [21:01] <Yinsho> mib_5u3h2u: I have no idea. .-.
#3043 [21:02] <OODavo> The online version downloads the rest when you run the installer, I believe.
#3044 [21:02] <Yinsho> Ah. Well, either way.
#3045 [21:02] <Yinsho> I'm already doing this version. 8U
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#3047 [21:03] <NinjaKirby> Good choice, the only one that worked for me
#3048 [21:03] <NinjaKirby> I guess the Content servers were acting up when I tried the "regular" version
#3049 [21:03] <Yinsho> Hi, sinedeviance.
#3050 [21:03] <sinedeviance> hey Yinsho
#3051 [21:03] <Yinsho> And I dunno, NinjaKirby.
#3052 [21:04] <Yinsho> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dI6mPDCqEo
#3053 [21:04] <Yinsho> I find this funny.
#3054 [21:04] <Yinsho> XD
#3055 [21:04] <Nirvam> rules 1 and 2
#3056 [21:04] <Yinsho> ?.-.
#3057 [21:05] <Nirvam> nvm :D
#3058 [21:05] <Diablothein> Nirvam, go back there then.
#3059 [21:05] <Yinsho> *Facepalms a little and clicks the rules link up there.*
#3060 [21:06] <Nirvam> meh, this drives me nuts. i want my username back. curse you notch (at least a little)
#3061 [21:06] * Diablothein facepalms at Yinsho's fail
#3061 [21:07] <sinedeviance> Nirvam: your username?
#3062 [21:07] <Nirvam> *lookaround* this is minecrafthelp amirite?
#3063 [21:07] * Yinsho facepalms more at Diablothein facepalming at her fail.
#3063 [21:07] <Diablothein> Nirvam, no, this is mchammer :|
#3064 [21:08] <Nirvam> minecraft.net:down>no server auth> no multiplayer> lots of pm's from users why they cannot connect to server
#3065 [21:08] <sinedeviance> Nirvam: it happens all the time. get over it.
#3066 [21:09] <sinedeviance> it's been happening since before the free weekend
#3067 [21:09] <Nirvam> hammertime... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
#3068 [21:09] <sinedeviance> (it's why we had the free weekend in the first place actually.)
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#3070 [21:09] <Yinsho> Lol Nirvam
#3071 [21:09] <Yinsho> XD
#3072 [21:10] <Nirvam> wierd, haven't had big problems on we
#3073 [21:10] <Nirvam> few login fails but nothing serious
#3074 [21:10] <sinedeviance> Nirvam: nah, 'the free weekend' was one specific weekend where minecraft.net was down for the entire weekend. so, notch made survival free to play for that weekend.
#3075 [21:11] <sinedeviance> as a result, a hojillion people bought the game the following week.
#3076 [21:11] <sinedeviance> fun times.
#3077 [21:11] <Nirvam> yet the question for an alternative to memory editing still stands?
#3078 [21:11] <Nirvam> ah, haven't hoste then ^^
#3079 [21:12] <Nirvam> maybe he should have done that again...
#3080 [21:12] <Yinsho> BRB.
#3081 [21:12] <Nirvam> *sight*
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#3088 [21:15] <NinjaKirby> Ah, sorry DarkN1ght, missed your PM earlier
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#3090 [21:15] <DarkN1ght> np
#3091 [21:15] <DarkN1ght> np
#3092 [21:15] <DarkN1ght> was busy shovelinargh
#3093 [21:15] <NinjaKirby> lol? Is it all running now? ^^;;
#3094 [21:16] <DarkN1ght> y the hell does minecraft.net never load
#3095 [21:16] <DarkN1ght> it timesout like 90% of the time
#3096 [21:17] <DarkN1ght> can some onepost direct link to game
#3097 [21:17] <DarkN1ght> !server
#3098 [21:17] <DarkN1ght> cant download
#3099 [21:17] <SkiingPenguins> didnt you read the topic
#3100 [21:17] <SkiingPenguins> (21:15:23)<AuBot whispers>Please note that you will probably have trouble logging in to the game for today, minecraft.net is currently being moved to a more powerful set of servers! Sorry for any issues this may cause.
#3101 [21:18] <DarkN1ght> doesnt affect the exe
#3102 [21:18] <NinjaKirby> 'Ere we go!
#3103 [21:18] <SkiingPenguins> who the fuck says moving a server doesnt affect downloads?
#3104 [21:18] <NinjaKirby> Another giant cave under the sea, oh yey.
#3105 [21:18] <DarkN1ght> lol
#3106 [21:19] <DarkN1ght> can some1 send me the file at least
#3107 [21:19] <SkiingPenguins> if they are moving to better servers then obviously it isnt going to work -_-
#3108 [21:19] <DarkN1ght> is that y webpage loads like crap
#3109 [21:19] <NinjaKirby> Which File? Client or Server?
#3110 [21:21] <slide> Is thereIs there some kind of magic you have to do to lay down tracks correctly in SMP? every new piece always faces one direction and wont change until a second piece is put down, which wont work for a circular track
#3111 [21:21] <slide> do i need to do a dance or something to place it correctly? heh
#3112 [21:21] <DarkN1ght> go figure restarted computer and server file dont open
#3113 [21:22] <NinjaKirby> I heard there was problem with tracks recently, I dunno if that last patch got it though.
#3114 [21:22] <NinjaKirby> Don't know how long it's been this way, but it seems lately placing various items, they face the direction you are standing?
#3115 [21:22] <NinjaKirby> Maybe applies to tracks~
#3116 [21:23] <NinjaKirby> Placing staircases has become sensical because of that change, heh
#3117 [21:23] <slide> i wish that worked with the tracks
#3118 [21:23] <slide> but nothing seems to effect placing one track until you place another
#3119 [21:23] <NinjaKirby> Damn :/
#3120 [21:24] <DarkN1ght> any idea y server wont open
#3121 [21:24] <Mikau> Why is it that the very rare occasions when I need to go to minecraft.net -- it's down
#3122 [21:25] <Nirvam> i'm bored, tell me your technical problems
#3123 [21:25] <DarkN1ght> i dont get it when i redownload the server it opens then if i close it reopen it doesnt
#3124 [21:27] <DarkN1ght> i cant get it to place files in a folder when starting mine craft
#3125 [21:28] <DarkN1ght> any ideas y?
#3126 [21:28] <NinjaKirby> Wait, when you close the server, do you use the "Stop" command to close it properly?
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#3129 [21:28] <DarkN1ght> no...
#3130 [21:28] <DarkN1ght> maybe thats y
#3131 [21:28] <NinjaKirby> I guess it's still the Command Prompt, yeah, requires a "Stop" command to save and shutdown
#3132 [21:28] <Nirvam> DarkN1ght: write access to folder?
#3133 [21:29] <Nirvam> aka write protection
#3134 [21:29] <DarkN1ght> i did stop now wont reopen
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#3137 [21:29] <NinjaKirby> Any error messages?
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#3139 [21:30] <Jared> !check
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#3141 [21:30] <Jared> hmmm
#3142 [21:30] <Jared> wont let me join my own server
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#3144 [21:30] <DarkN1ght> i cant even reopen the server pos client fix this crap
#3145 [21:30] <mortisha> im getting the error "disconected from server, Outdated server
#3146 [21:30] <Jared> was there a new server thing/.??
#3147 [21:30] <mortisha> is it because of the minecraft.net being down?
#3148 [21:30] <Jared> prob
#3149 [21:31] <mortisha> this blows
#3150 [21:31] <mortisha> decieded to host a server at the worst time
#3151 [21:31] <SkiingPenguins> if you have authentication on, it will attempt to check minecraft.net for your ID and pass
#3152 [21:31] <Jared> im on minecraft . net
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#3155 [21:31] <Jared> lol...
#3156 [21:32] <mortisha> the application on the comp isnt working
#3157 [21:32] <DarkN1ght> i can close and reopen the game find but server just gives me a loadingh icon for like 2 secs then dissappears
#3158 [21:32] <mortisha> or atleast not letting me log in
#3159 [21:32] <Yinsho> ...I'm back...
#3160 [21:32] <mortisha> i have to log in on the website
#3161 [21:32] <Yinsho> Uninstalling and Reinstalled Java did nothing.
#3162 [21:32] <Yinsho> Does anyone else ever get frozen right after the Mojang logo screen?
#3163 [21:33] <Nirvam> a friend of mine
#3164 [21:33] <DarkN1ght> notch needs to make a better way of doing this
#3165 [21:33] <SkiingPenguins> well i cant even log in hehehe
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#3167 [21:33] <DarkN1ght> all in one client would be nice
#3168 [21:33] <Nirvam> was like: login offline and then blacksreened
#3169 [21:33] <Jared> yeah
#3170 [21:33] <SkiingPenguins> what, you want java to be installed with/by minecraft?
#3171 [21:33] <Nirvam> Yinsho: something like that?
#3172 [21:34] <DarkN1ght> i dont really carte if its "still in beta" either
#3173 [21:34] <DarkN1ght> maybe not use java alltogether lol
#3174 [21:34] * SkiingPenguins thought the point of beta was to work out the problems
#3174 [21:34] <Yinsho> No, something more like I just reinstalled Java and am still getting the same problem I always get.
#3175 [21:34] * Nirvam approves
#3175 [21:35] * NinjaKirby believes it should also not be polished at that point
#3175 [21:35] <Yinsho> No matter what I do, when I hit the Mojang screen, actually I think right at the instant it goes to change to the next screen, whatever that is, it freezes.
#3176 [21:35] <Nirvam> well asume i didn't get your problem, would you kindly describe it again :D
#3177 [21:36] <Nirvam> hum
#3178 [21:36] <Nirvam> corrupt binarys maybe
#3179 [21:36] <Yinsho> ?
#3180 [21:36] <Jared> nirvam do u know why i cant join my own server?
#3181 [21:36] <Nirvam> do you have a intact backup of your .minecraft folder?
#3182 [21:37] <Jared> waht do u mean>
#3183 [21:37] <Jared> ?
#3184 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Jared - What OS are you on?
#3185 [21:37] <Nirvam> probably because of missing authenticatin
#3186 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> How are you trying to connect?
#3187 [21:37] <Jared> im runing windos 7
#3188 [21:37] <Jared> and im sayinbg localhost
#3189 [21:37] <Jared> !check
#3190 [21:37] <Jared> see
#3191 [21:37] <Jared> idk why
#3192 [21:37] <Nirvam> you could set online=false on server.properties, yet thats kinda pointless.
#3193 [21:37] <SkiingPenguins> jared what is your owan ip?
#3194 [21:37] <SkiingPenguins> wan*
#3195 [21:37] <Yinsho> I barely even have a .minecraft folder. I've said already that I haven't even been able to play the game once, so my .minecraft only contains whatever the game puts there when it's first made.
#3196 [21:37] <Jared> ok leme check
#3197 [21:38] <Jared> 71.113.175.187
#3198 [21:38] <SkiingPenguins> !check 71.113.175.187
#3199 [21:38] <Jared> see
#3200 [21:38] <SkiingPenguins> eh i will try to connect to it
#3201 [21:39] <Jared> kk
#3202 [21:39] <Yinsho> ...Man, just screw it.
#3203 [21:39] <Jared> its is saying
#3204 [21:39] <Yinsho> *Gives up on Minecraft.*
#3205 [21:39] <Jared> you lost connection
#3206 [21:39] <Jared> so hav i and my friend
#3207 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Jared - You can't connect to your server via localhost?
#3208 [21:39] <SkiingPenguins> jared i cannot connect because it cannot verify that i have bought it
#3209 [21:39] <Jared> yes
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#3211 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#3212 [21:40] <Jared> yes
#3213 [21:40] <Jared> 7
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#3215 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Have you checked your windows firewall is down?
#3216 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Or allowing 25565
#3217 [21:40] <Nirvam> Yinsho: as minecraft.net is down, from where the laucher gets the actual binarys, you should wait til its up again
#3218 [21:40] <SkiingPenguins> if i try to connect to jared's server i get "failed to login, user not premium" even though i bought it. i think it's cause minecraft.net isnt working
#3219 [21:40] <Jared> yes
#3220 [21:40] <Jared> yea i think its minecraft
#3221 [21:40] <Jared> it worked fine yesterday
#3222 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, then it's minecraft's website
#3223 [21:41] <Jared> me and 3 other people wher on it
#3224 [21:41] <SkiingPenguins> just wait until it's back up then try it :)
#3225 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> and auth server
#3226 [21:41] <Yinsho> Okay, Nirvam. Though I doubt it'll help, even then.
#3227 [21:41] <Jared> kk
#3228 [21:41] <Nirvam> Yinsho: either that or ask someone to upload their .minecraft folder for you
#3229 [21:41] <Jared> kk
#3230 [21:41] <Yinsho> Anyone want to do what Nivram said?
#3231 [21:41] <SkiingPenguins> i can if you'd like
#3232 [21:41] <Yinsho> 'Kay.
#3233 [21:42] <Nirvam> there really should be to set per server usernames/passwords
#3234 [21:42] <SkiingPenguins> Yinsho can you use zip files
#3235 [21:42] <Yinsho> Yeah.
#3236 [21:42] <Yinsho> I have winrar, so rar is fine too.
#3237 [21:43] <mib_5u3h2u> Guys it happens to you After like 15 minutes of playing the Minecraft screen gets all black and crash?
#3238 [21:43] <Nirvam> hey, that'd even handle tar.gz ;-)
#3239 [21:43] <Nirvam> known buck aoidable by using viewing distans smaller than far
#3240 [21:44] <Nirvam> i thing there lingers a youtube video on that topic yet id didn't have that problem
#3241 [21:44] <SkiingPenguins> Yinsho i PM'd the link to you
#3242 [21:45] <Nirvam> hope you didn't save username password in that ;-)
#3243 [21:45] <SkiingPenguins> of course not
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#3245 [21:45] <Nirvam> no offense intendet
#3246 [21:45] <SkiingPenguins> /bin/ and /resources/ should be all he needs
#3247 [21:45] <Nirvam> my english is worsening isn't it?
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#3249 [21:46] <SkiingPenguins> i only know english
#3250 [21:46] <Yinsho> How long has the Minecraft server been down?
#3251 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> over a day
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#3253 [21:47] <Yinsho> When is it supposed to be back up?
#3254 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> They're migrating it to amazon's cloud soon
#3255 [21:48] <Nirvam> like 4 hours ago
#3256 [21:48] * SkiingPenguins stares at minecraft updating itself
#3256 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> http://notch.tumblr.com/
#3257 [21:48] <SkiingPenguins> -_-
#3258 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> "Once again, minecraft.net is more popular than the poor old server can keep up with, so we’re upgrading. I’m not quite sure how long it will take to get done as it’s mostly Tobias doing the work (thank you, sir!). "
#3259 [21:49] <Yinsho> 'kay.
#3260 [21:49] <Nirvam> 0on twitter there is more news
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#3262 [21:50] <Nirvam> notch Markus Persson I think that was the final server restart for the night! I will go sleep now, this should hopefully hold up ok while I do so.
#3263 [21:50] <Nirvam> 3 hours ago
#3264 [21:50] <Nirvam> hrrhrr
#3265 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> That's just restarting the old server.
#3266 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Nothing about migrating it
#3267 [21:51] <Nirvam> yay, i managed to login in mc.net
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#3270 [21:52] <grand> Please note that you will probably have trouble logging in to the game for today, minecraft.net is currently being moved to a more powerful set of servers! Sorry for any issues this may cause. FINALLY
#3271 [21:52] <Nirvam> weee
#3272 [21:52] <Nirvam> game login!
#3273 [21:53] <drone36> are they still transerring stuff to the other servers?
#3274 [21:53] <Nirvam> wohoo
#3275 [21:53] <grand> yea
#3276 [21:53] <drone36> yea that might be it
#3277 [21:53] <drone36> because i still cant log in
#3278 [21:53] <grand> considering website isnt accessible
#3279 [21:54] <Nirvam> well, i got in!
#3280 [21:54] <Nirvam> right now
#3281 [21:54] <Nirvam> *dance
#3282 [21:54] <drone36> i cant still
#3283 [21:55] <Nirvam> took me a few tries
#3284 [21:55] <drone36> but the wierd thing is
#3285 [21:55] <grand> i logged in but cant join my private server :(
#3286 [21:55] <drone36> i can see the website
#3287 [21:55] <drone36> but i cant log in
#3288 [21:55] <drone36> it says cant connecto to minecraft.net
#3289 [21:55] <Nirvam> @grand server.properties: onlinemode=false
#3290 [21:55] <drone36> so i think they are still moving stuff
#3291 [21:56] <Nirvam> grand: that disables authentication via minecraft server
#3292 [21:56] <drone36> so i cant log in?
#3293 [21:56] <grand> Nirvam yea just lazy :p
#3294 [21:56] <drone36> and i can still see the website?
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#3296 [21:57] <drone36> yea this sucks :/
#3297 [21:57] <drone36> i guess ill have to wait untill tomorrow
#3298 [21:57] <drone36> then i can be sure if it isnt a java or minecraft related prob
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#3300 [21:58] <drone36> umm i just loggget on :D
#3301 [21:58] <drone36> just need to test if online works
#3302 [21:59] <grand> what command for opening server.properties in linux ? :P
#3303 [21:59] <SkiingPenguins> gedit?
#3304 [21:59] <drone36> ?
#3305 [22:00] <SkiingPenguins> grand just open it in the editor that comes with the linux you use?
#3306 [22:00] <grand> gedit worked
#3307 [22:00] <Nirvam> vim?
#3308 [22:00] <Nirvam> :D
#3309 [22:00] <grand> shoert team memory :P
#3310 [22:00] <grand> short*
#3311 [22:00] <grand> term*
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#3313 [22:01] <Nirvam> 4am, you have an axcuse.
#3314 [22:03] <Nirvam> okay, next question: what server wrappers/mods do you guys use atm?
#3315 [22:03] <ssen> controller block
#3316 [22:04] <ssen> anti greif
#3317 [22:04] <grand> i like vanilla
#3318 [22:04] <ssen> and that is all
#3319 [22:04] * SkiingPenguins thinks its bad to talk about mods in this channel
#3319 [22:04] <Nirvam> mods, not plugins ^^
#3320 [22:04] <Nirvam> i like vanilla too, yet whitelist is kind of neccessary
#3321 [22:05] <Nirvam> SkiingPenguins: where to go?
#3322 [22:05] <grand> not suppose to talk about 3rd party mods :/
#3323 [22:05] <Nirvam> accepted.
#3324 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Not bad, just that we don't officially support mods here
#3325 [22:05] <Diablothein> So, just asked a girl to marry me, got shot down in flames.
#3326 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Too much work to know all the different combinations of mods, and support them
#3327 [22:06] <Yinsho> Diablothein: Awwww. >:
#3328 [22:06] <SkiingPenguins> that sucks
#3329 [22:06] <Nirvam> well, i'm only looking for one thats working with beta already ^^
#3330 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> If you'd like to run all the different mods, and know how each one interacts, then help others.. feel free
#3331 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> I'm not going to stop you
#3332 [22:07] <grand> Diablothein offer her a minecraft not a ring
#3333 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> I just don't have that much free time
#3334 [22:07] <Diablothein> grand, she's not a gamer, at all.
#3335 [22:07] <ssen> <Nirvam> i like vanilla too, yet whitelist is kind of neccessary
#3336 [22:07] <ssen> What is the point of a whitelist
#3337 [22:07] <ssen> I really don't see it
#3338 [22:07] <OODavo> Diablothein: Then why did you try to marry her?
#3339 [22:08] <ssen> If you can't join the server to prove your worth, how does anything get done?
#3340 [22:08] <Nirvam> i'd do, if i'd have experience in othern hmod :-/
#3341 [22:08] <Diablothein> OODavo, That, is something inexplicable.
#3342 [22:10] <Nirvam> ssen: good point, it simply keeps griefers out
#3343 [22:11] <Yinsho> Okay, nope.
#3344 [22:11] <Yinsho> Still didn't work.
#3345 [22:11] <Diablothein> ssen, griefer prevention
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#3348 [22:12] <Izzumz> Hey, I was having some troubles with my server and I didn't find any definitive answers on the forums... can anyone help me?
#3349 [22:12] <Nirvam> yes, minecraftlogin is not working
#3350 [22:13] <Izzumz> just making sure. Because I wasn't sure if logging into minecraft had to do with the server I created
#3351 [22:14] <Izzumz> I can log into my server with the IP address "localhost", but not my internal or external. If that's just because minecraftlogin isn't working then good
#3352 [22:14] <Nirvam> oO
#3353 [22:15] <Izzumz> o.o
#3354 [22:15] <Nirvam> maybe portforwarding or serverip arent setup correctly
#3355 [22:15] <Izzumz> Nothing's changed since last night, when I was playing with a friend
#3356 [22:17] <Izzumz> Oh hey I fixed it
#3357 [22:17] <Izzumz> for some reason my internal IP changed randomly O.o
#3358 [22:18] <Nirvam> wireless lan?
#3359 [22:19] <Izzumz> Yeah, maybe it got reset
#3360 [22:19] <Nirvam> configure the router to give your card a static ip via dhcp
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#3362 [22:20] <Izzumz> how does i did
#3363 [22:21] <Izzumz> do I do that at my router's basic setup (192.168.x.x)
#3364 [22:21] <Izzumz> or on my computer's settings?
#3365 [22:21] <Nirvam> on the router
#3366 [22:22] <Izzumz> hmm
#3367 [22:22] <Nirvam> cannot help you from there as routers have different gui's
#3368 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Some routers can't do that
#3369 [22:22] <Izzumz> yeah
#3370 [22:22] <Izzumz> gotcha
#3371 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Best bet is to do it on the computer
#3372 [22:22] <Izzumz> ok well i'll deal, now I know what the problem was
#3373 [22:22] <Izzumz> thanksss :)
#3374 [22:22] <Nirvam> ssssSSSS
#3375 [22:23] <Diablothein> Dude, I bet you can't spell slaughter without laughter
#3376 [22:24] <OODavo> Diablothein: Slorter.
#3377 [22:24] <Diablothein> OODavo, fail
#3378 [22:24] <Nirvam> pwnd
#3379 [22:24] <OODavo> Diablothein: You never said I had to spell it correctly.
#3380 [22:25] <Diablothein> I never said you could spell it INCORRECTLY.
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#3382 [22:27] <ConMan8> !check
#3383 [22:27] <ConMan8> huh
#3384 [22:27] <ConMan8> !paid
#3385 [22:27] <ConMan8> !paid ConMan8
#3386 [22:28] <lemon-rev> conman8 is that your user name you use for loggin into minecraft ?
#3387 [22:28] <lemon-rev> and with out warning again notch another update lol
#3388 [22:29] <ConMan8> ..not paid?
#3389 [22:29] <ConMan8> what.
#3390 [22:29] <lemon-rev> not what i ment
#3391 [22:29] <lemon-rev> i said
#3392 [22:29] <lemon-rev> what is the user name you use to log into minecraft
#3393 [22:29] <OODavo> Clearly the auth still isn't working, ConMan8.
#3394 [22:29] <ConMan8> ConMan8
#3395 [22:29] <lemon-rev> hm
#3396 [22:29] <lemon-rev> fair enough mayb e davos correct
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#3399 [22:32] <Lugnut1206> HEy
#3400 [22:32] <Lugnut1206> Hey guys.
#3401 [22:32] <Nirvam> m?
#3402 [22:32] <Lugnut1206> So, I went on minecraft today, and got an error.
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#3404 [22:33] <Lugnut1206> It informed me, that "Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode."
#3405 [22:33] <lemon-rev> del /bin folder and redownload theres new update
#3406 [22:33] <lemon-rev> oh
#3407 [22:33] <Lugnut1206> delete the bin completely?
#3408 [22:33] <lemon-rev> was that recent
#3409 [22:33] <lemon-rev> you can yes
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#3411 [22:34] <Lugnut1206> Like
#3412 [22:34] <Lugnut1206> Right now I'm having this error.
#3413 [22:35] <lemon-rev> well see if what i surgested helps
#3414 [22:35] <Lugnut1206> I posted the whole log at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=146005
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#3416 [22:36] <Lugnut1206> I'm downloading the bin now.
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#3418 [22:36] <lemon-rev> kk
#3419 [22:37] <Tajha> Yay for more powerful servers
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#3421 [22:37] <Tajha> Any word on how long the move is going to take?
#3422 [22:37] <buddy> anyone here who has any knowledge of WoM? I know it is probably third party but could really use a hand
#3423 [22:38] <buddy> plus I am a good tipper :P
#3424 [22:38] <Tajha> cow tipper?
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#3426 [22:38] <buddy> lol
#3427 [22:38] <Lugnut1206> No luck
#3428 [22:38] <Lugnut1206> Dead again
#3429 [22:38] <keltor> for some reason in linux, i'm getting a no route to host error when trying to reach my minecraft server - the ip is definitely routable from my laptop
#3430 [22:39] * Tajha points keltor to the topic
#3430 [22:39] <lemon-rev> lugnut is something blocking minecraft
#3431 [22:39] <Tajha> Minecraft has been wonky the past couple days, it's being moved to new servers
#3432 [22:39] <Diablothein> Reverend!
#3433 [22:39] <keltor> Tajha: what about the topic, i've read it ...
#3434 [22:39] <lemon-rev> yes diablo
#3435 [22:40] <Diablothein> check link I sent ya
#3436 [22:40] <lemon-rev> k
#3437 [22:41] <Tajha> sorry, guess it wasn't th topic... When I entered, I got this: -AuBot- Please note that you will probably have trouble logging in to the game for today, minecraft.net is currently being moved to a more powerful set of servers! Sorry for any issues this may cause.
#3438 [22:41] <keltor> i can login to the game fine now
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#3440 [22:41] <Ackmey> Hey guys
#3441 [22:41] <Tajha> Ah, I haven't even been able to load minecraft.net most of today
#3442 [22:41] <keltor> this has never worked for me independent of the website working
#3443 [22:42] <Lugnut1206> Minecraft is blocked from onboard video drivers?
#3444 [22:42] <Lugnut1206> What?
#3445 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Lugnut1206 - No, sometimes you need to update your video drivers
#3446 [22:42] <lemon-rev> hm,
#3447 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> or your video card is just not up to spec
#3448 [22:42] <Ackmey> I built a drum machine on a 4-clock that works great, is there any way to double the speed of the signal for more versatility; i.e have an 8-clock?
#3449 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> 4-clock's the fastest clock you can build, that's stable
#3450 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Anything faster, and redstone torches start burning out
#3451 [22:43] <Ackmey> Well 8-clock is less fast.
#3452 [22:43] * GreyVulpine nods
#3452 [22:43] <dopeghoti> I'm new to the terminology- isn't an 8-clock half the speed?
#3453 [22:43] <Ackmey> I can have more output out of it though
#3454 [22:43] <Lugnut1206> My videocard worked fine yesterday.
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#3456 [22:43] <Ackmey> Yes dopeghoti
#3457 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Lugnut1206 - For minecraft?
#3458 [22:43] <blood> hey guys
#3459 [22:43] <Lugnut1206> Yes
#3460 [22:43] <Lugnut1206> While its bad
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#3462 [22:43] <dopeghoti> that should work then, Ackmey
#3463 [22:43] <Lugnut1206> I easily got 30 fps on tiny
#3464 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Then did you update the video drivers?
#3465 [22:43] <Ackmey> What I need is the same speed, but double the outputs.
#3466 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Or mess with them?
#3467 [22:44] <blood> iv e been having this problem with mine craft.[21:39:17] steven: internal exception: Java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 49
#3468 [22:44] <Lugnut1206> I tried to update them.
#3469 [22:44] <blood> thats the error i get
#3470 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> blood - Need to update your server
#3471 [22:44] <Lugnut1206> It might not have worked
#3472 [22:44] <Ackmey> Like right now I have 4 separate beats, can't get anything other than quarter notes
#3473 [22:44] <dopeghoti> Ackmey: just reverse-OR the output from the 4-clock then?
#3474 [22:44] <blood> internal exception: Java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 49
#3475 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> That's the error you get when running the old 1.1 server
#3476 [22:44] <blood> ok
#3477 [22:44] <dopeghoti> oh, for separate outputs
#3478 [22:44] <dopeghoti> hmm
#3479 [22:45] <blood> but its not my server.
#3480 [22:45] <Ackmey> Like ideally I would literally have an 8 clock, but wait what does reverse-OR do *wikis*
#3481 [22:45] <blood> internal exception: Java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 49
#3482 [22:45] <dopeghoti> Ackmey: reverse-or would be an output to a fork of redstone
#3483 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> blood - Then your server admin needs to update
#3484 [22:45] <Lugnut1206> GreyVulpine I'm updating them again right now.
#3485 [22:45] <blood> i have reinstalle dmc and stuff and ive consulted the server owner
#3486 [22:45] <dopeghoti> as opposed to a fork of redstone all inputting to one torch
#3487 [22:45] <blood> heres the serve rip
#3488 [22:45] <Ackmey> Oh, yeah, well that's what I already do
#3489 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> blood - It's not anything on your end. You need to wait for the server admin to update
#3490 [22:45] <blood> 173.208.58.75
#3491 [22:46] <blood> ok
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#3493 [22:46] <Lugnut1206> I don't understand why I have to update my drivers after one lousy update
#3494 [22:46] <Ackmey> I read somewhere on forums something about an 8-clock that had to do with a T flip flop but didn't really understand it.
#3495 [22:46] <Lugnut1206> that might not even be an update.
#3496 [22:47] <Lugnut1206> I have to restart my computer.
#3497 [22:47] <Lugnut1206> Be right back.
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#3500 [22:49] <Thomas111114> How will i know when i will be able to play minecraft?
#3501 [22:49] <Tajha> When you try it and it works >.>
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#3503 [22:50] <Thomas111114> :P lol helpfull
#3504 [22:50] <Thomas111114> i wont get an email or anything?
#3505 [22:50] <Tajha> Or, presumably, if you twitterstalk Notch or mollstam...
#3506 [22:50] <Tajha> Or lurk in here and check every once in a while
#3507 [22:51] <Tajha> Yes, they will send out a mass email to everybody who has registered to tell them that minecraft is working again
#3508 [22:51] <Organtrail> hi.. every time I log in, I begin downloading packages and it stalls at about 10% forever.. I realize the site is being switched to a new server, but a friend of mine is having no problem connecting. is there anything I can do?
#3509 [22:51] <Tajha> </sarcasm>
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#3511 [22:52] <Thomas111114> well....thanks for the sarcasm i suppose? but i just payed for the game and all i wanna know is why i cant play :P
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#3513 [22:53] <Tajha> You can't play because it's being moved to a new, better server.
#3514 [22:53] <Thomas111114> kool
#3515 [22:53] <Nirvam> oO
#3516 [22:54] <Tajha> At least that's what AuBot says
#3517 [22:54] <Nirvam> well, he could have get that from like topic...
#3518 [22:54] <Nirvam> more coffee.
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#3522 [22:58] <Lugnut1206> Lets see.
#3523 [22:58] <Lugnut1206> I've got them installed..
#3524 [22:58] <Lugnut1206> rebooted..
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#3526 [22:59] <Lugnut1206> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
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#3531 [23:15] <Xaviergmail> !check 96.253.118.75
#3532 [23:15] <Xaviergmail> :/
#3533 [23:16] <Xaviergmail> i cant login D:
#3534 [23:16] <Xaviergmail> I think it crashed
#3535 [23:16] <Shadow386> Xaviergmail if its a time out its minecraft.net
#3536 [23:16] <Shadow386> all my servers are doing it
#3537 [23:16] <Xaviergmail> ooh
#3538 [23:16] <Xaviergmail> mk
#3539 [23:17] <Shadow386> its been herpin all day
#3540 [23:17] <Xaviergmail> should i keep trying or will I waste my time?
#3541 [23:17] <Shadow386> if you want to wait about 5 hours, go ahead
#3542 [23:19] <Xaviergmail> :(
#3543 [23:19] <Shadow386> sad thing is I'm serious =/
#3544 [23:20] <grand> Minecraft is being moved to a amazon cloud server ( something that can handle all the traffic )
#3545 [23:20] <grand> reference http://notch.tumblr.com/
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#3547 [23:26] <Diablothein> huh, just connected to Minecraft.net...
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#3549 [23:28] <Diablothein> Dudes, it's up?
#3550 [23:28] <Diablothein> I'm downloading an update.
#3551 [23:29] <Lugnut1206> Yeah.
#3552 [23:29] <Lugnut1206> This is weird.
#3553 [23:29] <Lugnut1206> Doesn't matter if I'm on the 'update' or on the older version
#3554 [23:29] <Lugnut1206> My minecraft dies.
#3555 [23:31] * OODavo can't get the Fedora installer working. :|
#3555 [23:31] <Lugnut1206> Can anyone help with http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=146005
#3556 [23:32] <OODavo> It wants the installation image, but it's not showing the drive that contains said image so I can't select it.
#3557 [23:32] <OODavo> Lugnut1206: Hmm.
#3558 [23:32] <OODavo> Have you tried a reinstall? Generally a good first step.
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#3561 [23:34] <ConMan8> Lugnut1206: check the thread again
#3562 [23:36] <Lugnut1206> ConMan8 What downloads page?
#3563 [23:36] <Lugnut1206> oodavo Reinstall what? My drivers? Did that twice already. I wasn't aware minecraft could be reinstalled...?
#3564 [23:37] <OODavo> !reinstall
#3565 [23:37] <OODavo> Like that.
#3566 [23:38] <ConMan8> !client
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#3568 [23:38] <Xaviergmail> /join #bukkit
#3569 [23:38] <Xaviergmail> oop
#3570 [23:39] <Xaviergmail> wtf 2 slashes sends it?
#3571 [23:39] <Xaviergmail> /test
#3572 [23:39] <Xaviergmail> ooo
#3573 [23:39] <OODavo> Technically minecraft.jar is a valid client for all OSes. :P
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#3576 [23:42] <jdodson99> I need someone to help me with redstone wiring
#3577 [23:43] <jdodson99> I want to have a setup where we can flip a switch and anyone that walks over the line of pressure plates will get a face full of arrows, but if we turn the switch off the plates won't do anything
#3578 [23:43] <jdodson99> Is this possible?
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#3580 [23:43] <jdodson99> Google, do you know anything about redstone wiring?
#3581 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3582 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Anything's possible with logic circuits
#3583 [23:43] <lemon-rev> would have to have switch i think between the switch and the plats
#3584 [23:44] <jdodson99> Logic circuits?
#3585 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> redstone
#3586 [23:44] <jdodson99> OIC
#3587 [23:44] <jdodson99> So... is there any moderately simple way to do this?
#3588 [23:44] <Shadow386> http://minecraftwiki.net/Redstone should help you with the basic understanding
#3589 [23:44] <Shadow386> simple with redstone? you high?
#3590 [23:45] <Lugnut1206> he he
#3591 [23:45] <Lugnut1206> Conman8 It didn't work.
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#3593 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to know your basic 4/5-clock for the dispenser, an and gate couple with a switch to turn it on and off
#3594 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> and a latch
#3595 [23:45] <Lugnut1206> Now trying reinstal
#3596 [23:45] <ConMan8> Lugnut1206: Then you need to either update your video drivers or get a new video card/computer
#3597 [23:45] <jdodson99> 4/5 clock... latch... gate... what? o_O
#3598 [23:46] <jdodson99> XD I'm a n00b at redstone
#3599 [23:46] <Shadow386> jdodson99 if you dont know, you might wanna read what i linked
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#3602 [23:46] <Shadow386> sorry to redirect, but thats how I learned
#3603 [23:46] <jdodson99> Thanks, I'll try it out
#3604 [23:46] <Lugnut1206> ConMan8 That sucks. Could there be no other way? It WAS working perfectly yesterday.
#3605 [23:46] <Shadow386> whats the issue?
#3606 [23:47] <ConMan8> Lugnut1206: You might have done something to stuff up your video drivers, try system restore
#3607 [23:47] <Lugnut1206> ConMan8 Say, now theres a good idea.
#3608 [23:48] <Lugnut1206> I did actually just install skype.
#3609 [23:48] * ConMan8 goes afk
#3609 [23:48] <Lugnut1206> What the
#3610 [23:48] <Lugnut1206> Huh.
#3611 [23:49] <Lugnut1206> Shadow386 http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=146005
#3612 [23:49] <Shadow386> what video card do you have, update name, and any specific programs to operate it?
#3613 [23:50] <Lugnut1206> The Intel GMA 945
#3614 [23:50] <Lugnut1206> No specific programs that I'm aware of
#3615 [23:50] <Lugnut1206> what do you mean by update name?
#3616 [23:50] <Rait> What's with this error? It happens one time then not the next then again... "Internal client error: java.net.connectexception: connection timed out: connect"
#3617 [23:51] <Shadow386> Rait minecraft.net is having auth issues
#3618 [23:51] <Shadow386> check back in a few hours when notch is alive
#3619 [23:51] <Rait> Alright, so it's not a problem client side?
#3620 [23:51] <Shadow386> nope
#3621 [23:52] <Shadow386> maybe you have unsupported drivers for your video card for windows xp Lugnut1206?
#3622 [23:53] <jdodson99> o.o AND gates are confusing, at least to me. Anyone maybe wanna make it for me? XD :3
#3623 [23:53] <Shadow386> lrn2redstone
#3624 [23:53] <Shadow386> srsly
#3625 [23:53] <Lugnut1206> I just downloaded the latest, I believe, straight from intels website.
#3626 [23:54] <Shadow386> try returning to older video drivers
#3627 [23:54] <Lugnut1206> How do I system restore?
#3628 [23:54] <jdodson99> I'm a complete 100% noob at redstone, and I'm a fail at learning.
#3629 [23:54] <Shadow386> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+do+I+system+restore%3F
#3630 [23:54] <Lugnut1206> ... good idea
#3631 [23:55] <Shadow386> jdodson99 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+do+I+use+redstone+gates+minecraft
#3632 [23:55] <Lugnut1206> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Minecraft+Redstone+tutorial&page=&utm_source=opensearch
#3633 [23:56] <jdodson99> Shadow, I already looked that up a while ago and couldn't figure it out
#3634 [23:56] <Shadow386> it's seriously not that hard...
#3635 [23:57] <Lugnut1206> I knew I saw system restore hiding somewhere
#3636 [23:57] <jdodson99> I may have been dropped on my head when I was a baby, just saying o_O
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#3638 [23:58] <Shadow386> idk how to speak derp, so sorry, please learn on your own
#3639 [23:59] <Xaviergmail> hey ios there any way to spawn white wood in smp?