#1 [00:00] <jdodson99> You mean birch?
#2 [00:00] <Xaviergmail> yea
#3 [00:00] <Shadow386> walk 500 blocks in one direction
#4 [00:00] <Xaviergmail> no i mean /give
#5 [00:00] <jdodson99> lololol?
#6 [00:00] <Shadow386> or if you're op, wiki has data valuses, learn how to use /help or /give
#7 [00:00] <Shadow386> values*
#8 [00:03] <jdodson99> o.o How can you say redstone isn't that hard!?
#9 [00:03] <Xaviergmail> wiki doesent have the ids for it
#10 [00:03] <jdodson99> Sux4u, use regular wood.
#11 [00:03] <Shadow386> jdodson99 cause ima nerd
#12 [00:03] <Xaviergmail> I heard its like wool.. colored cloth is all the same id but diff damage
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#14 [00:04] <Shadow386> why do you want it?
#15 [00:04] <jdodson99> Traps.
#16 [00:04] <Shadow386> not you jdodson99, Xaviergmail
#17 [00:04] <jdodson99> OH. xD
#18 [00:05] <Xaviergmail> cause its hot
#19 [00:05] <Xaviergmail> :D
#20 [00:05] <Xaviergmail> and I want to build something out of it
#21 [00:05] <Shadow386> change your texture pack then?
#22 [00:06] <Xaviergmail> no
#23 [00:06] <Shadow386> then you're at a loss then cause i know thinks its possible
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#26 [00:07] <Xaviergmail> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values#Wood
#27 [00:08] <Xaviergmail> Kealper
#28 [00:08] <Kealper> yessir
#29 [00:08] <Xaviergmail> look at what i posted ^^
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#31 [00:08] <Xaviergmail> how does that help me spawn birch?
#32 [00:08] <Xaviergmail> D:
#33 [00:09] <Kealper> you can't spawn birch :/
#34 [00:09] <Kealper> you've got to inventory hack it
#35 [00:09] <Shadow386> he asks for smp
#36 [00:09] <Kealper> yes.....you've got to inventory hack it....
#37 [00:09] <Xaviergmail> D:
#38 [00:10] <jdodson99> Or /give
#39 [00:10] * Xaviergmail hates notch
#39 [00:10] <Shadow386> cant /give alt blocks
#40 [00:10] <Xaviergmail> jdod both 3 trees are the same id
#41 [00:10] <Kealper> all three of the tree textures are one block, using different item states as the different types of tree
#42 [00:10] <Shadow386> its also noticeable in the shade of the leaves
#43 [00:12] <Xaviergmail> :(
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#45 [00:12] <Xaviergmail> I'll have to get this wood legit i think
#46 [00:12] <Kealper> indeed
#47 [00:13] * Shadow386 has legit wood
#47 [00:13] <Shadow386> ;D
#48 [00:14] <Diablothein> no*
#49 [00:14] <Shadow386> :<
#50 [00:14] <Diablothein> :D
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#52 [00:18] <Diablothein> To be honest, this is the best thing I've ever seen created in Minecraft, ever. http://minecraftmuseum.net/gallery/ndavid42-1.jpg
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#54 [00:22] <Rait> holy shi-.. that's epic
#55 [00:26] <Diablothein> No, it's not epic.
#56 [00:26] <Diablothein> It's... it's... beautiful...
#57 [00:26] <Diablothein> Whoever made that... +1 Internets.
#58 [00:28] <dopeghoti> it was probably make automagically
#59 [00:28] <dopeghoti> and thus loses all aawesome.
#60 [00:30] <Diablothein> Dude, there is nothing that can create something like that.
#61 [00:30] <Diablothein> George Lucas Be DAMNED
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#63 [00:36] <Rait> D: I wanna play Smp.
#64 [00:38] <Diablothein> Rait, you'll live.
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#66 [00:39] <Rait> yeahh, i know.
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#69 [00:43] <aetherian> energize
#70 [00:43] <aetherian> hello, guys
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#72 [00:44] <jdodson99> Hello, aetherian
#73 [00:44] <aetherian> wha's up
#74 [00:44] <jdodson99> Waiting for people to åsk for help. XD
#75 [00:45] <mib_zjxtif> help! :D
#76 [00:45] <jdodson99> With what?
#77 [00:45] <mib_zjxtif> anyone able to run a vanilla SMP server right now?
#78 [00:45] <jdodson99> I am
#79 [00:46] <Diablothein> minecraft.net is down, that is why you are unable to connect.
#80 [00:46] <mib_zjxtif> did you have any troubles earlier?
#81 [00:46] <mib_zjxtif> but its been coming and going
#82 [00:46] <Diablothein> Wait for the server move to be complete to be able to connect.
#83 [00:46] <mib_zjxtif> so in theory it should work if minecraft.net was up?
#84 [00:46] <Diablothein> Not in theory.
#85 [00:47] <jdodson99> In rEALITY.
#86 [00:47] <Diablothein> In theory, minecraft.net is up, and you're having port-forwarding issues.
#87 [00:47] <mib_zjxtif> even if the server has worked before?
#88 [00:48] <mib_zjxtif> port forwarding shouldnt be an issue, unless they changed the ports
#89 [00:48] <Diablothein> Exactly.
#90 [00:48] <mib_zjxtif> oh they did?
#91 [00:48] <jdodson99> It's a server-side error
#92 [00:48] <Diablothein> So, in reality, minecraft.net is down, nobody can authenticate their logins, so, nobody can connect.
#93 [00:48] <jdodson99> ^that
#94 [00:49] <mib_zjxtif> I understand that. This isn't my first rodeo. I was trying to see if anyone else was having any luck connecting to a vanilla smp server
#95 [00:50] * Diablothein puts on his cowboy hat
#95 [00:50] <Diablothein> Nor mine.
#96 [00:50] * jdodson99 blinks.
#96 [00:50] <jdodson99> What are rodeo? Are such as?
#97 [00:50] <Diablothein> Nobody can connect to anyone else's.
#98 [00:51] <mib_zjxtif> ok thats what I was looking for. I thought that since I am able to access minecraft.net that i should be able to connect as long as it was up
#99 [00:51] <Diablothein> If the server move is complete.
#100 [00:51] <mib_zjxtif> Ok. I thought I had read that Notch completed the move. Guess I was wrong.
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#102 [00:52] <mollstam> the server ran out of disk space
#103 [00:52] <mollstam> compensating :)
#104 [00:52] <Diablothein> http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2812089385/the-web-server-is-struggling-were-migrating
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#107 [00:53] <mib_zjxtif> Thank you guys. I'll cool my heels then and go play....
#108 [00:53] <mib_zjxtif> OMG wtf am I going to play?!
#109 [00:54] <mollstam> Server up now
#110 [00:54] <Diablothein> orly?
#111 [00:54] <Diablothein> mib_zjxtif, download megaglest, it's an RTS, freeware, quite fun.
#112 [00:55] <mib_zjxtif> thanks diablo
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#114 [00:56] <Diablothein> Hmm, so server looks like it's up.
#115 [00:56] <Diablothein> Yep, it's up, just connected to Shadow386's
#116 [00:57] <mib_zjxtif> oh nice
#117 [01:00] <Rait> What's the address to shadow's servers?
#118 [01:00] <jdodson99> We need to know.
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#121 [01:02] <mib_zjxtif> interesting, i get the same message when trying to connect to shadows...
#122 [01:02] <Starlogic> I have a question about servers, can someone help me?
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#125 [01:08] <jdodson99> DUGGA DOOP-DOO-WAH, DUGGA DOOP-DOO-WAH, ANOTHER AWKWARD MOMENT!
#126 [01:09] * mib_zjxtif punches a tree
#126 [01:09] <mib_zjxtif> it isn't as much fun in real life... :(
#127 [01:11] <jdodson99> I want to help someone... xD
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#130 [01:13] <mib_zjxtif> I honestly don't know what to do
#131 [01:13] <mib_zjxtif> I only play minecraft now
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#133 [01:15] <jdodson99> Mib, wanna check out my server?
#134 [01:15] <Diablothein> mib_zjxtif, play this: http://www.freewebarcade.com/game/n-game/
#135 [01:16] <jdodson99> OH LAWDY, N is amazing.
#136 [01:16] <mib_zjxtif> if it will let me connect
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#138 [01:16] <mib_zjxtif> yeah i love N
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#140 [01:19] <Diablothein> G'mornin'
#141 [01:20] <Diablothein> Later Reverend
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#145 [01:23] <jdodson99> IRC is weird at night...
#146 [01:23] <jdodson99> Well, not weird, but... quiet...
#147 [01:23] <jdodson99> Too quiet...
#148 [01:24] <aetherian> hehehe
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#150 [01:25] <big_burly_black_guy> I WANNA STICK MY DICK IN A BIG BOWL OF PUDDING!
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#152 [01:25] <Diablothein> o.o
#153 [01:25] <Rait> He must like pudding?
#154 [01:26] <mib_zjxtif> I thought it was a metaphor for the exploitation of the working class
#155 [01:26] <jdodson99> LOL, what
#156 [01:26] <Rait> hmm, anyone have a minute?
#157 [01:27] <jdodson99> Sure, what do you need?
#158 [01:27] <aetherian> no.
#159 [01:27] <aetherian> we do not.
#160 [01:27] <jdodson99> Shut up aeth.
#161 [01:28] <aetherian> >.>
#162 [01:28] <aetherian> nobody gets sarcasm anymore...
#163 [01:28] <jdodson99> .˘.
#164 [01:29] <jdodson99> ¬…¬
#165 [01:30] <aetherian> I wonder what rait wanted...
#166 [01:31] <jdodson99> Who knows?
#167 [01:31] <jdodson99> Oh wait...
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#173 [01:36] <kuN> Can anyone help me set up a private server for me and my friend
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#180 [01:49] <jdodson99> ORTHODONTIST.
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#184 [01:57] <anadrom> "took too long to log in" every time
#185 [01:57] <anadrom> what's up with that
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#193 [02:01] <aetherian> anadrom
#194 [02:01] <aetherian> still there?
#195 [02:05] <anadrom> aetherian: yes
#196 [02:05] <aetherian> you want to know why you can't log in?
#197 [02:06] <anadrom> something to do with minecraft.net's servers being lagged to hell i think
#198 [02:06] <anadrom> but what is your explanation?
#199 [02:06] <aetherian> minecraft.net is down
#200 [02:06] <aetherian> isn't it being DDoSed?
#201 [02:07] <Odenn> No play and all wait makes Odenn a dull boy
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#203 [02:07] <Odenn> I need my fair dose of minecrack today
#204 [02:07] <ConMan8> Chanserv!
#205 [02:07] <ConMan8> Devoice me!
#206 [02:07] <aetherian> ...
#207 [02:07] <ConMan8> I have THE POWER
#208 [02:08] * ConMan8 goes afk
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#209 [02:08] <Kxania> Anyone awake?
#210 [02:08] <Rait> isminecraftdown.net says it's up, but meh, idk
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#212 [02:08] <Kxania> Oh, you're having the same problem?
#213 [02:08] <Kxania> I cant connect to MC.
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#215 [02:09] <Odenn> the website is up again
#216 [02:09] <grand> Minecraft.net is being moved to a amazon cloud server to handle the traffic better
#217 [02:09] <aetherian> wait
#218 [02:09] <Odenn> http://minecraft.net/
#219 [02:09] <aetherian> uh
#220 [02:09] <aetherian> waaaait
#221 [02:09] <aetherian> why didn't these people read the aubot message?
#222 [02:10] <Kxania> ?
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#225 [02:10] <aetherian> type /cycle
#226 [02:10] <aetherian> it shoudl appear
#227 [02:10] <ConMan8> /hop
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#232 [02:11] * ConMan8 adds /accept AuBot to his perform
#232 [02:11] <aetherian> me away
#233 [02:12] <ConMan8> wait, what
#234 [02:13] <Kxania> the classic servers are workin.
#235 [02:13] <Kxania> lol
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#240 [02:26] <Kxania> K, it's back up, I belive.
#241 [02:26] <Kxania> believe*
#242 [02:26] <Kxania> No wait, no...
#243 [02:26] <Kxania> damn.
#244 [02:26] <Tajha> If you keep trying, you can usually get on eventually... I got on, and haven't left
#245 [02:27] <Tajha> Because I don't want to not be able to get on again XD
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#247 [02:27] <barbarbengt> still problems with the server?
#248 [02:29] <Kxania> ha
#249 [02:33] <grand> Guys there migrating minecraft.net it may be a day or so before everything is 100% stable
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#251 [02:34] <KillSpammer> Beerp
#252 [02:34] <KillSpammer> 36 unique vistors on Http://killspammer.net so far :(
#253 [02:34] <KillSpammer> Ima go read manga
#254 [02:36] <Kxania> lol
#255 [02:42] <aetherian> make that 37
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#257 [02:42] <Yinsho> Hey, Anyone here?
#258 [02:42] <aetherian> no one
#259 [02:42] <aetherian> NO ONE
#260 [02:42] <aetherian> NO ONE
#261 [02:42] <Yinsho> FRICK.
#262 [02:43] <Yinsho> Then I'll just ask Mr. No One my question.
#263 [02:43] <Yinsho> Does anyone know if the Window Aero color scheme will mess up Minecraft?
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#265 [02:44] <aetherian> ...
#266 [02:44] <aetherian> .....
#267 [02:45] <aetherian> oh I know
#268 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> Yinsho - It sometimes does
#269 [02:45] <aetherian> I'll quote a doctor
#270 [02:45] <aetherian> "try it try it"..."you will see"
#271 [02:45] <aetherian> famous doctor
#272 [02:45] <aetherian> killspammer
#273 [02:45] <grand> dr. sues?
#274 [02:45] <aetherian> mmhmm
#275 [02:46] <aetherian> killspammer
#276 [02:46] <aetherian> I desire to speak with thee
#277 [02:46] <Yinsho> GreyVulpine: Really?
#278 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#280 [02:48] <aetherian> get back from the darn manga =\
#281 [02:48] <Yinsho> GreyVulpine: Fffff then....because I have winows Vista basic. You can't PICK Aero, but for some reason my computer has it turned on by default.
#282 [02:48] <Yinsho> I don't want to turn it off though because I can't turn it back on.
#283 [02:48] <Yinsho> And I'm so used to it, it'd make me hate my computer if it was gone. ._.
#284 [02:48] <aetherian> maybe
#285 [02:48] <aetherian> you can only turn it on
#286 [02:48] <aetherian> IF IT'S ALREADY OFF
#287 [02:49] <aetherian> !!!
#288 [02:49] <Yinsho> THAT MAKES LIKE NO SENSE AT ALL!
#289 [02:49] <Yinsho> *Le gasp*
#290 [02:49] <aetherian> WHY DOESN'T IT
#291 [02:49] <Yinsho> Screw it, I'll make a new profile, turn it off, and see if I can play minecraft. Then also see if I can turn Aero back on. 8U
#292 [02:50] <Yinsho> BBL PEEPS.
#293 [02:50] <Yinsho> ...
#294 [02:50] <Yinsho> SUGARCOVEREDMARSHMALLOWPEOPLES!
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#297 [02:52] <KillSpammer> Wut aetherian
#298 [02:53] <KillSpammer> If anyone feels nice and wants to get hosting use this link cheap hosting low as 2 bucks a month for a domain and hosting: http://my.awdserv.net/aff.php?aff=006
#299 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> You know this isn't the channel for that
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#301 [02:54] <aetherian> soz I had to brb
#302 [02:54] <KillSpammer> I want 5percent money :S
#303 [02:55] <aetherian> oh you're back
#304 [02:55] <aetherian> killspammer
#305 [02:55] <aetherian> I just wanted to say something about your site
#306 [02:55] <aetherian> if you do not mine
#307 [02:56] <aetherian> capitalize the I in "where i hang out" and a few other places.
#308 [02:56] <aetherian> :)
#309 [02:56] <aetherian> oh and it seems a bit laggy
#310 [02:56] <aetherian> but tha's jus me
#311 [02:56] <aetherian> probsa
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#316 [03:08] <KillSpammer> Proberly you :)
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#318 [03:10] <grand> KillSpammer
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#322 [03:13] <greg> when is minecraft going to work?
#323 [03:13] <grand> greg it may be a day or so
#324 [03:14] <greg> Ohh... so I should stop refreshing endlessly? Bad night to throw a minecraft party...
#325 [03:14] <grand> there migrating to a amazon cloud server something that can handle lots of traffic
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#328 [03:25] <zampa> How large is a newly generated singleplayer world?
#329 [03:26] <zampa> I take it, it is not endless.
#330 [03:26] <OODavo> One chunk at start, I would imagine.
#331 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> 9x9 chunks
#332 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> each chunk is 16x16x128 blocks
#333 [03:27] <zampa> aah
#334 [03:27] <zampa> and the further i go
#335 [03:27] <zampa> teh more it gets added?
#336 [03:27] * GreyVulpine nods
#336 [03:27] <grand> yep
#337 [03:27] <OODavo> GreyVulpine: Ah, that makes more sense.
#338 [03:28] <OODavo> Yes, more chunks are generated as you move towards the edge of existing ones.
#339 [03:28] <the_late_man> said the straight man
#340 [03:28] <the_late_man> to the late man
#341 [03:29] <the_late_man> where have you been.....
#342 [03:29] <the_late_man> I've been here and
#343 [03:29] <the_late_man> I've been there and
#344 [03:29] <the_late_man> I feel in between
#345 [03:29] <the_late_man> huh who wha
#346 [03:30] <the_late_man> oh I musta dozed off
#347 [03:30] <the_late_man> I gotta go to bed
#348 [03:30] <the_late_man> I have a paper that I was supposed to write tonight. I mean yesterday. (by thirty minutes)
#349 [03:30] <the_late_man> hmm
#350 [03:31] <the_late_man> the is thela teman, signing out. as in, like, putting a signature on a card marked "out"
#351 [03:31] <the_late_man> like... "signing" "out"
#352 [03:31] <the_late_man> or better yet
#353 [03:31] <the_late_man> instead of my name, I signed the word "out"
#354 [03:32] <grand> dude
#355 [03:32] <the_late_man> mmyes?
#356 [03:32] <grand> stop trollin
#357 [03:32] <the_late_man> hehehe
#358 [03:32] <the_late_man> me?
#359 [03:32] <the_late_man> troll?
#360 [03:32] <OODavo> grand: That's not trolling. It's pointless rambling.
#361 [03:32] <the_late_man> why, I would never think of doing such a thing
#362 [03:32] <the_late_man> besides
#363 [03:32] <the_late_man> davo is right
#364 [03:32] <grand> same thing from my view
#365 [03:33] <aetherial_slumber> oho now
#366 [03:33] <aetherial_slumber> let me get this straight
#367 [03:33] <aetherial_slumber> this conversation as been "quit trolling," "I'm not, I'm (insert thing here)," "idc"
#368 [03:33] <aetherial_slumber> so uh
#369 [03:33] <aetherial_slumber> who's trolling
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#371 [03:34] <aetherial_slumber> ack
#372 [03:34] <aetherial_slumber> kbaithen
#373 [03:39] <KillSpammer> Yes grand?
#374 [03:39] <KillSpammer> Lol i've been too busy to realise minecraft is down lol
#375 [03:39] <KillSpammer> Its not like i play it much :S
#376 [03:40] <grand> did you buy your copyright?
#377 [03:40] <KillSpammer> Nope lol
#378 [03:40] <grand> :P i wanted to know how much lol
#379 [03:41] <grand> i need one for my site im building
#380 [03:41] <KillSpammer> Idea: I'll cahnge the picture of copyright to 1 pixel difference
#381 [03:41] <KillSpammer> Therfor its legal :)
#382 [03:41] <KillSpammer> Whats the site?
#383 [03:41] <KillSpammer> Or haven't you got it yet?
#384 [03:41] <OODavo> Copyright does not work that way.
#385 [03:41] <grand> not got it yet'
#386 [03:42] <KillSpammer> I'm joking OODavo
#387 [03:42] <zampa> should i try to build my house with stone or cobblestone? :>
#388 [03:42] <KillSpammer> grand if you need cheap hosting
#389 [03:42] <OODavo> :P
#390 [03:42] <KillSpammer> --> http://my.awdserv.net/aff.php?aff=006
#391 [03:43] <KillSpammer> zampa stone?
#392 [03:43] <KillSpammer> I guess
#393 [03:43] <grand> zampa your choice
#394 [03:43] <grand> my spider trap has failed
#395 [03:43] <zampa> what is most resistant?
#396 [03:43] <KillSpammer> There the same i think
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#398 [03:43] <KillSpammer> Stone might be slightly stronger
#399 [03:43] <KillSpammer> I'm to lazy to check
#400 [03:44] <zampa> oh wait no need to build a well defended castle, i could just build one in the air. xD
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#403 [03:48] <grand> holy sh**
#404 [03:48] <grand> i found 7 diamonds under lava :D
#405 [03:49] <LayneObserdia> Hello, I got a problem. Minecraft is downloading the packages and stops by 10%. Some ideas? I'm using Mac OS X 10.6.6
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#408 [03:50] <grand> have you tried a clean install?
#409 [03:50] <SirBlack> whats happening? :D
#410 [03:50] <SirBlack> no servers working or?
#411 [03:51] <LayneObserdia> grand: not yet. Is the first time I got the problem.
#412 [03:51] <LayneObserdia> ehm http://minecraft.net/ is down?
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#414 [03:52] <grand> minecraft.net is being moved to new servers so its going on and offline
#415 [03:53] <SirBlack> didnt notch write that all servers were done 8 hours ago?
#416 [03:53] <grand> he did :o
#417 [03:53] <SirBlack> # I think that was the final server restart for the night! I will go sleep now, this should hopefully hold up ok while I do so. about 8 hours ago
#418 [03:53] <SirBlack> =/
#419 [03:53] <SirBlack> crap
#420 [03:54] <grand> still unstable then i guess sorry about the wrong info
#421 [03:55] <SirBlack> gah im addicted :D
#422 [03:56] <LayneObserdia> that's shit xD I'm at school and it's boring
#423 [03:56] <SirBlack> haha.. ive got to a bughole when i restarted.. i was just pickin some diamonds...
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#425 [03:58] <KillSpammer> Meh...
#426 [03:58] <KillSpammer> I should make a batch file to install minecraft at school :S
#427 [03:58] <KillSpammer> We can't access C: directly
#428 [03:58] <KillSpammer> But i can edit everything via batch :)
#429 [04:00] <KillSpammer> Talkin to Jeb again
#430 [04:00] <KillSpammer> Yay?
#431 [04:00] <grand> used batch to shut a power point my teacher was doing one day XD
#432 [04:01] <KillSpammer> Lol
#433 [04:01] <KillSpammer> Meh...
#434 [04:01] <KillSpammer> I've had so much more access at school since i got to high school
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#437 [04:04] <Solvius> goodmorning
#438 [04:05] <OODavo> Morning, Solvius!
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#440 [04:05] <blackcat21> Hello everyone
#441 [04:06] <Solvius> still no runnin site I see :(
#442 [04:06] <blackcat21> Anyone else's addons or texture packs stop working?
#443 [04:07] <blackcat21> My game updated this morning and then my addons and texture pack didnt work. I tried reinstalling them but it did not work.
#444 [04:08] <OODavo> blackcat21: We don't support custom addons, but your texture pack should still be working fine.
#445 [04:08] <OODavo> Have you tried reinstalling Minecraft itself?
#446 [04:08] <blackcat21> Yes I did, and it still isnt working.
#447 [04:08] <blackcat21> I also deleted all of the files that I had
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#449 [04:11] <OODavo> Is this a standard texture pack i.e. a regular .zip file?
#450 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#451 [04:12] <OODavo> The texture pack.
#452 [04:12] <OODavo> Is it just a .zip or do you need to patch stuff to make it work?
#453 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> a zip file is the right format..
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#455 [04:12] <OODavo> GreyVulpine: Yes.
#456 [04:12] <OODavo> Exactly.
#457 [04:13] <blackcat21> It comes zipped when you downloaded it. It has an installer
#458 [04:13] <OODavo> Hmm.
#459 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> installer?
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#461 [04:13] <OODavo> It shouldn't need one.
#462 [04:13] <OODavo> Perhaps it's modding something.
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#464 [04:13] <OODavo> Which pack is this?
#465 [04:13] <blackcat21> It makes it easier. You can manually move the files
#466 [04:13] <blackcat21> Mixcraft HD v23
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#468 [04:14] <Slayerduck> is there a alternative location where i can download minecraft so i can play offline ?
#469 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> No
#470 [04:15] <Slayerduck> thank you so much
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#473 [04:17] <blackcat21> I fixed it
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#476 [04:24] <Odenn> why does minecraft go up and down all the time
#477 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> Overloaded server this time
#478 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> Last time, it was a DDOS
#479 [04:25] <Odenn> havent they fixed their server move yet?
#480 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> In process
#481 [04:25] <Odenn> argh
#482 [04:25] <Odenn> who ddosed them
#483 [04:27] <grand> GreyVulpine
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#486 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#487 [04:28] <grand> http://twitter.com/notch/statuses/27512594843574272
#488 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#489 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
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#491 [04:29] <grand> servers are up
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#493 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> What about that tweet implies that?
#494 [04:30] <grand> last restart? but there unstable for now?
#495 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> Did you read any of his last tweets leading up to that
#496 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> "Haha, resin keeps going into infinite cache writing loops! :-D We'll solve it at the app level, it seems."
#497 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> "The server is restarting every now and then as we narrow down on a bug. Resin is kind enough to auto detect changes and restart."
#498 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> "aching thing..)"
#499 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> "@slowbrohime resin seems to work quite fine! (other than the caching thing..)"
#500 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> "I think that was the final server restart for the night! I will go sleep now, this should hopefully hold up ok while I do so."
#501 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> Nothing in there about server migration, or new servers
#502 [04:32] <grand> didn't know if yo followed it was tryin to help :/
#503 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> It's them, trying to restart the server because of the inf. loop
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#505 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> Notch had to reboot it one last time, before he went off for the night
#506 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> It's still down
#507 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> Or is just veeeerrry slow
#508 [04:34] <Solvius> I am lucky, no worries about slow, its for me down :)
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#517 [04:55] * GreyVulpine twiddles thumbs
#517 [04:56] <TheBix> any good servers
#518 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> 127.0.0.1
#519 [04:57] <whidgle> 209.236.124.193:25565
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#521 [04:57] <Beharede> Anyone here?
#522 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#523 [04:57] <Beharede> GREAT!
#524 [04:57] <Beharede> I need your help
#525 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Oh-no.
#526 [04:57] <Beharede> Oh yes, quiet will you.
#527 [04:57] <Beharede> Listen
#528 [04:57] <TheBix> OH WOW!
#529 [04:57] <TheBix> 127.0.0.1 is such a cool server
#530 [04:57] <Odenn> this is shitty
#531 [04:57] <TheBix> you guys should join
#532 [04:57] <Beharede> When editing your terrain.png
#533 [04:58] <Odenn> got kicked out
#534 [04:58] <Beharede> Where do you find the "top" of a block to edit
#535 [04:58] <Beharede> Can't seem to find it
#536 [04:58] <Beharede> Anyone?
#537 [04:59] <Beharede> GUYS
#538 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Um, for which texture?
#539 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> Had to take some time to open up terrain.png
#540 [05:01] <Solvius> connection refused TheBix ??
#541 [05:01] <Beharede> Well, um
#542 [05:01] <Beharede> You know the grass block
#543 [05:01] <TheBix> i dunno
#544 [05:01] <Beharede> I can edit the sides
#545 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> Grass is upper left
#546 [05:01] <Beharede> But the upper grass, the top
#547 [05:01] <Beharede> I can't edit that
#548 [05:01] <Beharede> I can on the sides
#549 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> Remember the biome stuff, grass and other stuff were tinted in relation to their biome
#550 [05:02] <Beharede> What's biome?
#551 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> So the grass 'top' is upper left
#552 [05:02] <Beharede> :D
#553 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> biome stuff, you know..
#554 [05:02] <Beharede> Yeah, i've edited the upper dirt block
#555 [05:02] <Beharede> And the green side, grass side
#556 [05:02] <Beharede> But the top of the grass block
#557 [05:02] <Beharede> Is not to be found
#558 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> It's the upper leftmost block in terrain.png
#559 [05:03] <Beharede> Is it green`?
#560 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> No
#561 [05:03] <Beharede> Or is it transparent?
#562 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> It's grey
#563 [05:03] <Beharede> Okey
#564 [05:03] <KillSpammer> Oh no
#565 [05:03] <Beharede> Do you know why? ;D
#566 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> Because of biomes
#567 [05:03] <KillSpammer> If you want to edit the colour
#568 [05:03] <KillSpammer> Theres a file in there with a gradiant or something
#569 [05:04] <Beharede> Okey, i want the grass green,
#570 [05:04] <Beharede> I think I got it now, wait a little
#571 [05:04] <Solvius> hmmm it is green ? :)
#572 [05:05] <Beharede> God, that smiley
#573 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> No, in the terrain, it's grey, so that minecraft can tint it in-game, according to what biome you're in
#574 [05:05] <Solvius> thats what i meant, its green in the game
#575 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> It's really green in grassland, to a faded green in taigas
#576 [05:06] <TheBix> any servers with authentication turned off
#577 [05:06] <Solvius> yes I know, colors change for the green :)
#578 [05:06] * GreyVulpine nods
#578 [05:09] <whidgle> minecraft severs back up yet?
#579 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Heh, liked Minecraft's FB status: "The serverssSs are having issues! My masterSss are working on it."
#580 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> With a little creeper face for an icon
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#587 [05:39] <GreyVulpine> Something wrong?
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#591 [05:47] <Nirtal> When will I be able to login to minecraft again?
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#596 [06:05] <whidgle> http://twitter.com/notch
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#600 [06:17] <SirBlack> is it possible to join servers yet`
#601 [06:17] <SirBlack> ?
#602 [06:18] <whidgle> i cant even log in so i guess not
#603 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> Some can, some can't
#604 [06:18] <SirBlack> i logged in
#605 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> Servers are still sloooow
#606 [06:18] <whidgle> D:
#607 [06:18] <SirBlack> but cant reach server yet
#608 [06:18] <SirBlack> but its possible?
#609 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> For some, yes
#610 [06:18] <SirBlack> ok
#611 [06:18] <SirBlack> "some".. its randomly?
#612 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> I know I can, but it takes some patience to get in
#613 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> So it's just slow for me
#614 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Others, can't even access the website at all, I don't know
#615 [06:19] <SirBlack> hehe
#616 [06:19] <SirBlack> ill managed to get in to the site.. wiie
#617 [06:19] <SirBlack> :D
#618 [06:19] <SirBlack> I*
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#622 [06:25] <nipper> Anyone know of any server side php scripts for a webserver that disply info about the server it self. Not talking minecraft server but the webserver. Like ram things like that.
#623 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> Depends
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#625 [06:35] <NDS> I just changed my password for my account, but the client wont let me forget or change the old password that it was told to remember
#626 [06:36] <SirBlack> haha not the best time doing changes like that
#627 [06:36] <NDS> Where is the file that governs this info? If I delete it, it should stop remembering my old password if I do that
#628 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> Should be in /.minecraft somewhere
#629 [06:36] <NDS> I know
#630 [06:36] <NDS> I have been looking all over that folder...
#631 [06:36] <NDS> but I can check again
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#633 [06:39] <KillSpammer> grand, you there?
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#635 [06:42] <KillSpammer> Damn :S
#636 [06:47] <SirBlack> GreyVulpine here?
#637 [06:48] <SirBlack> i have an question for u all..
#638 [06:48] <Solvius> shoot :)
#639 [06:48] <SirBlack> in console of a server u can write kick, ban, tp, give.. and so on
#640 [06:48] <SirBlack> can i give this commands to some classes?
#641 [06:49] <SirBlack> like user: kick, ban, tp
#642 [06:49] <SirBlack> i know there is a way if u use mods.. but not with this default server config
#643 [06:49] <SirBlack> someone have a clue?
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#645 [06:50] <Solvius> nope, i dont think it can, but then i am new here :)
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#648 [06:51] <SirBlack> ok.. im not an expert but, it shouldnt be that hard..
#649 [06:51] <soccerjunki> hey guys
#650 [06:51] <SirBlack> i mean u can as op do those things
#651 [06:51] <soccerjunki> any suggestions on fixing frame rate issues ?
#652 [06:51] <SirBlack> so the ops can.. but i want a class under
#653 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> You can't do this with vanilla
#654 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> You'll have to look for a modded server
#655 [06:53] <Solvius> as far as I know you can make someone OP and deOP
#656 [06:54] <soccerjunki> anyone here lol ?
#657 [06:54] <Solvius> nope :D
#658 [06:54] <soccerjunki> how do you fix frame rape (fps) problems
#659 [06:55] <soccerjunki> rate*
#660 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> Buy a better computer?
#661 [06:55] <SirBlack> mohaha
#662 [06:56] <SirBlack> i managed to join my server to play now!
#663 [06:57] <soccerjunki> i have intel i7 core with a radeon 560 hd graphix card so yea
#664 [06:57] <soccerjunki> no need for a new pc
#665 [06:58] <soccerjunki> i believe the channel is called help not be a dick
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#678 [07:20] <SirBlack> GreyVulpine i cant remove the give alt. so ops can have all the other stuff?
#679 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Not with the unmodded vanilla server
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#685 [07:34] * Niyoru peeks
#685 [07:35] <Odenn> argh
#686 [07:35] <Odenn> when will they fix this
#687 [07:35] <ConMan8> !client
#688 [07:35] <ConMan8> ...
#689 [07:35] <ConMan8> bah
#690 [07:36] <Odenn> http://mc.nexua.org/
#691 [07:36] <Niyoru> question: is buying the game still down? :o
#692 [07:37] <Odenn> I bet notches sits and plays some game instead of working to solve the problems
#693 [07:37] <ConMan8> no
#694 [07:37] <Odenn> But I hope not
#695 [07:37] <ConMan8> Mollstam is working on the site
#696 [07:37] <ConMan8> Notch can't do anything about the site..
#697 [07:37] <Niyoru> ill take that as a yes n.n
#698 [07:38] <Odenn> can they do something to get the game up and running?
#699 [07:38] <ConMan8> Niyoru: You can still get to the Paypal payment! But it wouldn't be recommended to purchase right now because it might not go through
#700 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> Odenn - They are
#701 [07:38] <Odenn> don't care about the site, just want to play :P
#702 [07:38] <ConMan8> There's going to be a server just for authentication and logins
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#704 [07:39] <Odenn> Will it be up today?
#705 [07:39] <whidgle> its up
#706 [07:40] <ConMan8> The site is technically up
#707 [07:40] <Niyoru> I already purchased con :(
#708 [07:40] <Niyoru> like, literally a second before servers and such all died.
#709 [07:40] <Niyoru> got confirmation from paypal, but not sure if it ever went through, didnt get any emails or anything :[
#710 [07:41] <feenyx> if PayPal has confirmed payment, you're fine
#711 [07:41] <feenyx> if they haven't, you've not lost a penny
#712 [07:41] <Niyoru> hokay dokay ^^
#713 [07:41] <Niyoru> thanks :)
#714 [07:42] <Niyoru> just waiting now, i guess
#715 [07:42] <Niyoru> my friends have managed to somehow get a LAN server running, so im miffed cos they keep poking at it
#716 [07:42] <Odenn> I just want the login to work, i need my smp play!
#717 [07:44] <mbentley> wow, so minecraft.net is still down, eh?
#718 [07:44] <Niyoru> :[
#719 [07:44] <Odenn> mbentley: it goes up and down
#720 [07:45] <Niyoru> skinning is hard :[
#721 [07:45] <mbentley> i hadn't checked since i left work last night but i sorta figured that they might get their new stuff up and running by now
#722 [07:45] * mbentley shrugs
#722 [07:46] <Odenn> Yeah, it shouldn't take this long
#723 [07:46] <mbentley> i don't know how complex their website & associated backend software is but...
#724 [07:47] <Odenn> Well, wouldn't it be possibly to run the old server while setting up the new one
#725 [07:48] <ConMan8> It's all Mollstam's fault!
#726 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#727 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> You know mollstam's here...
#728 [07:48] <ConMan8> [/fingerofblame]
#729 [07:48] <ConMan8> OSHI-
#730 [07:48] <mbentley> Odenn: if they could do that, they wouldn't need a new setup
#731 [07:48] <mbentley> ;)
#732 [07:49] <Odenn> true tho
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#742 [08:16] <mollstam> baCon: YOU WANNA HUSTLE?
#743 [08:17] <baCon> mollstam: I dunno, that just might stop minecraft.net from coming down off the roof
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#750 [08:36] <KillSpammer> Meh...
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#761 [09:13] <N3RF> Minecraft still down?
#762 [09:14] <OODavo> N3RF: Yep.
#763 [09:14] <N3RF> :(
#764 [09:14] <OODavo> :(
#765 [09:14] <N3RF> ;(
#766 [09:14] <N3RF> :'(
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#771 [09:19] <MankeliPRKL> Dammit.
#772 [09:21] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#773 [09:22] <Kealper> site is still too slow to do anything with :/
#774 [09:22] <Kealper> !check minecraft.net:80
#775 [09:22] <Kealper> >.>
#776 [09:23] <mbentley> the minecraft is a lie
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#778 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> Aubot lies
#779 [09:23] <Kealper> !check minecraft.net:65537
#780 [09:23] <Kealper> still on the cloud.....
#781 [09:23] <mbentley> TO THE CLOUD!
#782 [09:24] <Kealper> methinks they need to buy a few more servers for that lol
#783 [09:24] <mbentley> @notch 'For one, we'll be splitting out logins to a separate box for that, and moving all player textures to another. That's like 80% of the calls.'
#784 [09:24] <mbentley> shockingly good idea
#785 [09:25] <mbentley> :)
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#787 [09:25] * GreyVulpine is so going to buy himself a drink when he nails this SOB for botspamming his IRC netowrk.
#787 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> Just amazing the stuff this guy puts on the internet
#788 [09:26] <Kealper> so..basically...i called that dead on with the clients for smp being too inefficient with textures
#789 [09:26] <Kealper> and what botspam on what network?
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#794 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> Just a botspam on a network I help manage.
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#799 [09:52] <chris1412> hello i just made it in the game but punching a tree doesnt get me wood whats wrong?
#800 [09:52] <chris1412> os is win7 prof 64bit
#801 [09:52] <mbentley> chris1412: are you holding the mouse button down?
#802 [09:53] <chris1412> holding a certain time?
#803 [09:53] <mbentley> you have to hold the mouse button until it breaks
#804 [09:53] <chris1412> ah ok
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#812 [10:14] <maksenDK> how long before we can go play again? :o
#813 [10:14] <maksenDK> I just bought it.. i wanna play! :D
#814 [10:14] <Kealper> uhh...what is it telling you?
#815 [10:14] <Kealper> when you go to log in
#816 [10:14] <maksenDK> cant connect to minecraft.net
#817 [10:15] <maksenDK> play online once to enable offline
#818 [10:16] <maksenDK> i was hyped to play yesterday when i bought it.. i hate waiting for something ive bought :P
#819 [10:16] <maksenDK> hey! there we go! :D
#820 [10:16] <maksenDK> yay!
#821 [10:16] <maksenDK> did you do something? :P
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#823 [10:16] <mbentley> the servers randomly respond
#824 [10:17] <maksenDK> awesome..
#825 [10:17] <maksenDK> can i play fullscreen?
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#827 [10:18] <mbentley> you can maximize but it will be in a window
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#830 [10:29] <Roenie> is there a way to make the /help pages longer?
#831 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#832 [10:30] <Roenie> my /help on my server is 6 pages long
#833 [10:30] <Roenie> because the pages are so short
#834 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> Ah, we don't really support modded servers here.
#835 [10:30] <Roenie> boo
#836 [10:30] <Roenie> ;-)
#837 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> If you're running hmod, you might want to check out #hey0
#838 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> If you're running bukkit, #bukkit
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#840 [10:31] <Roenie> k
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#842 [10:32] <i81u812> not to be a bother but was a timeline spoken of ?
#843 [10:33] * GreyVulpine shakes
#843 [10:33] <i81u812> seizures?
#844 [10:33] <i81u812> lol
#845 [10:33] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#845 [10:33] * GreyVulpine shakes head, "No."
#845 [10:33] <i81u812> yep someone get the cracsh cart....
#846 [10:33] <i81u812> crash
#847 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Last I heard, they're still in the process of migrating servers
#848 [10:34] <i81u812> I need 1000cc's of minecraft here stat we're losing him
#849 [10:34] <i81u812> well thats always a good thing... improvements i mean
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#852 [10:40] <chris1412> when i respawn my items are gone. also my buildings?
#853 [10:40] <Kealper> chris1412: whos server?
#854 [10:40] <Kealper> yours or someone elses?
#855 [10:40] <Roenie> chris1412 found the hidden hardcore mode omgbbq
#856 [10:40] <chris1412> single
#857 [10:40] <chris1412> ???
#858 [10:40] <Kealper> oh..single...that ain't good
#859 [10:40] <chris1412> well im new to the game
#860 [10:40] <Kealper> OS?
#861 [10:40] <chris1412> what does it reffer to the os?
#862 [10:41] <chris1412> i got killed by zombie
#863 [10:41] <Kealper> how are you closing out of the game?
#864 [10:41] <chris1412> i respawned and had no items
#865 [10:41] <Kealper> oh
#866 [10:41] <Kealper> OH
#867 [10:41] <Kealper> that's normal
#868 [10:41] <chris1412> and now i wonder if my shelter is away too
#869 [10:41] <chris1412> my hideout
#870 [10:41] <zz> The items should be where you died
#871 [10:41] <Kealper> you drop your inventory when you die, and go back to the place that you originally started at
#872 [10:41] <zz> Unless you died in lava
#873 [10:42] <chris1412> dam i cant find my hideout
#874 [10:42] <Kealper> can't wait until this game gets proper documentation :/
#875 [10:44] <zz> If it's not on the wiki, add it :P
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#880 [10:55] <chris1412> how to set my spawnpoint?
#881 [10:55] <chris1412> can i set it in my hideout?
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#883 [10:56] <satoys> hi
#884 [10:56] <mbentley> chris1412: you would have to use a map editr
#885 [10:56] <mbentley> *editor
#886 [10:56] <satoys> i bought the game 2.5 days ago and i wasn't able to login for a single time
#887 [10:58] <satoys> it's also weird, that buying by credit card failed the first time, worked fine the second time, but now i have received 3 mails with minecraft purchasing complete
#888 [10:58] <chris1412> ok
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#890 [10:58] <satoys> can anybody tell me what to do now?
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#892 [10:58] <chris1412> oops
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#894 [11:01] <satoys> i have also read something about a flag on my account, that shows me, that i bought the game
#895 [11:01] <satoys> i have never seen that one
#896 [11:03] <satoys> anybody here?
#897 [11:03] <Kealper> rawr?
#898 [11:03] <Kealper> satoys: it's not a visible flag
#899 [11:04] <satoys> is there any possibility to see that i own the game?
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#901 [11:04] <peru__> !paid perunio
#902 [11:04] <Ixonian> Hey all! I´m facing some really weird problems with my Miencraft server. After 20 hours of not being able to log into minecraft I finally got my server up and running about an hour ago, all my friends can join but I cant. All I get is this "internal client error: java.net.connect.exception:connection timed out:connect"
#903 [11:05] <Kealper> also satoys, you picked a bad time to buy the game lol, they've migrating all the website stuff over to new servers and such, so the website has been down off and on
#904 [11:05] <Roenie> !paid Roenie82
#905 [11:05] <Kealper> but yes, just type !paid and then your username
#906 [11:05] <Ixonian> Ops, *MINEcraft, not mien >.<
#907 [11:05] <mbentley> Ixonian: if it is running on the same machine as the client, you need to login using 127.0.0.1
#908 [11:05] <satoys> !paid satoys
#909 [11:05] <Kealper> Ixonian: it means that your server probably failed to authenticate you, just keep trying :/
#910 [11:05] <Roenie> !paid ekpyrosis
#911 [11:06] <satoys> so at least that worked
#912 [11:06] <Ixonian> The problem is that I have been able to play from the same machine that runs the server for the last week with no problems
#913 [11:06] <Roenie> !paid ekpyrosis
#914 [11:06] <Ixonian> I will keep trying though
#915 [11:06] <Kealper> satoys: since that worked, it means that the website was probably screwing up again when you tried to log in
#916 [11:06] <Kealper> it should work now
#917 [11:07] <Kealper> Ixonian: wait, you started playing it on a different machine than you hosted it from?
#918 [11:07] <Kealper> what ip were you using to connect last time?
#919 [11:07] <Ixonian> No no, I am still playing on the same machine that hosts the server
#920 [11:07] <Kealper> oh
#921 [11:07] <Ixonian> Also I am using Hamachi to provide the IP
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#923 [11:08] <Kealper> oh.....ick lol
#924 [11:08] <Kealper> try just connecting to 127.0.0.1 then
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#926 [11:08] <satoys> hmm, it still does not work
#927 [11:08] <satoys> i don't get connection
#928 [11:08] <Ixonian> I will give it a shot
#929 [11:08] <Kealper> satoys: are you having trouble logging in to your account? or logging in to a server?
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#931 [11:09] <satoys> on the website i can login, so i downloaded minecraft.exe
#932 [11:09] <satoys> but there i can't login
#933 [11:09] <Ixonian> Didn´t work I am afraid
#934 [11:09] <Ixonian> Hang on
#935 [11:09] <Ixonian> Just a sec...
#936 [11:09] <Kealper> hmm... satoys let me try something then, they might still be in the proecess of moving stuff around
#937 [11:09] <Ixonian> It works! Praise Kealp
#938 [11:10] <Kealper> Ixonian: thank mbentley, he suggested that before i did lol
#939 [11:10] <Ixonian> It´s funny though, how come 127.0.0.1 works and not the conventional IP I was using before?
#940 [11:10] <Ixonian> And thanks Bentley then xP
#941 [11:10] <Kealper> Ixonian: it probably changed
#942 [11:11] <Ixonian> My friends still connect via the old IP though
#943 [11:11] <Ixonian> Strange
#944 [11:11] <Roenie> suddenly now i'm getting a time out in my client while trying to connect to my server running on localhost
#945 [11:11] <Kealper> oh...weird, idk
#946 [11:11] <Roenie> what gives?
#947 [11:11] <Kealper> website is iffy again
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#949 [11:11] <Roenie> server shows that the client leaves when i kill the client app
#950 [11:11] <mbentley> well if you mean your public ip, minecraft doesn't seem to like a connection coming from what it sees as it's public ip
#951 [11:11] <Kealper> satoys: i can't log in with the exe either, so they are changing stuff right now
#952 [11:12] <Roenie> but does not show the login event
#953 [11:12] <Kealper> just keep trying, you'll eventually log in
#954 [11:12] <satoys> ok, and what about paying once, but getting 3 mails saying purchasing complete
#955 [11:13] <satoys> should i just write an email to make sure, that i only pay once?
#956 [11:13] <Ixonian> Anyway thanks for the help everybody, I´ll go play some Minecraft in honor of Notch the great!
#957 [11:13] <Roenie> are there problems logging in to servers right now because of the username check @ mc.net server?
#958 [11:13] <Kealper> satoys: could have just been their email thing messing up, the server they were using about 3 days ago was..well..on it's last leg lol
#959 [11:13] <Roenie> i can get online (log in when client starts) but not join server
#960 [11:14] <Kealper> correct Roenie
#961 [11:14] <Roenie> ty
#962 [11:14] <Kealper> just keep trying, you'll eventually get in to your server :/
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#964 [11:15] <satoys> so i had just a perfect timing for buying the game... nice to know :P
#965 [11:16] <satoys> thx for the support kealper
#966 [11:16] <Kealper> np lol
#967 [11:17] <Kealper> satoys: this should all be ironed out tomorow or the next day
#968 [11:17] <Kealper> they've got it on the new servers now, all they have to do is just finish migrating a few things, then they can start it all up full-steam
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#970 [11:19] <satoys> to bad that i can't even log in once... what would be needed to play at least offline
#971 [11:19] <Kealper> to log in once :/
#972 [11:19] <Kealper> i just got in, so it's possible to log in....it's just really hard right now lol
#973 [11:21] <satoys> the whole thing is getting kind of ironic :D
#974 [11:22] <satoys> now i have a fatal error occured (2): null
#975 [11:22] <Kealper> O.o
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#977 [11:23] <funtzoff> Hello i need help
#978 [11:23] <funtzoff> any admin?
#979 [11:23] <Kealper> help with?
#980 [11:24] <Roenie> funtzing about
#981 [11:24] <funtz> I just bought the game and when i log on it says : User not premium
#982 [11:24] <GLaDOS> wait a day
#983 [11:24] <funtz> i just have to wait one day??
#984 [11:24] <Kealper> yes, payments could take a little bit to process right now, the site is not running at full power, so it's rather slow atm :/
#985 [11:24] <GLaDOS> YES
#986 [11:24] <satoys> yes, i am not the only one with bad timing :P
#987 [11:24] <funtz> Okay thank you for the help :-)
#988 [11:25] <funtz> Btw. I played at Alpha.. Nice game :)
#989 [11:25] <funtz> in*
#990 [11:25] <Roenie> Kealper, would it not make your life easier if you had an auto repeat message in here about the server issues?
#991 [11:25] <Kealper> it does
#992 [11:25] <Kealper> nobody reads it
#993 [11:25] <mbentley> AuBot is a propaganda machine!
#994 [11:26] <Kealper> cycle this channel, you should get a notice from AuBot :/
#995 [11:26] <GLaDOS> that'll help
#996 [11:26] <mbentley> haha GLaDOS
#997 [11:26] <Kealper> no one ever reads the topic :/
#998 [11:26] <GLaDOS> brb getting spam script
#999 [11:26] <Roenie> it should repeat the message, say, every 5 mins?
#1000 [11:27] <GLaDOS> no
#1001 [11:27] <Kealper> AuBot is all the spam you'll ever need :P
#1002 [11:27] <GLaDOS> every 5 milliseconds
#1003 [11:27] <Kealper> xD
#1004 [11:27] * mbentley gets ready to club baby seals in such an event
#1004 [11:27] <Roenie> one every 5 ms, mbentley ?
#1005 [11:28] <evtl> pls make it work
#1006 [11:28] <mbentley> yeah
#1007 [11:28] <Roenie> bentleys aint THAT fast
#1008 [11:28] * mbentley hands Kealper some duct tape
#1008 [11:28] <Kealper> lol
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#1010 [11:29] <Roenie> generally, the first time i do a server migration with downtime i'd probably lose my job
#1011 [11:30] <satoys> thx again for the help
#1012 [11:30] <satoys> bye
#1013 [11:30] <Roenie> (businesses suck)
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#1015 [11:30] <mbentley> well Roenie, they are sorta doing a forced migration
#1016 [11:30] <Roenie> i know
#1017 [11:31] <Roenie> shoulda seen that coming though imo
#1018 [11:31] <mbentley> and i totally understand. i'd pretty much get fired for doing the same
#1019 [11:31] * mbentley works in web hosting
#1019 [11:31] <Kealper> yeah, this is more of an amputate the foot before you lose the whole leg kind of migration :/
#1020 [11:31] <mbentley> that and a possible FDA fine...
#1021 [11:31] <Roenie> ?
#1022 [11:32] * mbentley works for a drug company
#1022 [11:32] <mbentley> yaydrugs
#1023 [11:32] <Roenie> can you get me some weed?
#1024 [11:33] <mbentley> gotta have those awesome fda warning lablels available so people don't get surprised by explosive diarrhea
#1025 [11:33] <mbentley> and no
#1026 [11:33] <mbentley> lol
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#1028 [11:34] <Kealper> lol @ surprize explosive diarrhea
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#1030 [11:34] <Gimli007> hello
#1031 [11:35] <Gimli007> i have a strange problem with minecraft i rarely find a mob
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#1033 [11:35] <Gimli007> why is this?
#1034 [11:35] <Gimli007> since the new update of january 14
#1035 [11:35] <zz> Because you have it set to peaceful, perhaps?
#1036 [11:35] <Gimli007> no
#1037 [11:36] <Gimli007> it's in normal
#1038 [11:36] <zz> I think the spawning was changed slightly... But there should still be plenty
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#1040 [11:36] <Gimli007> it was better b4
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#1042 [11:37] <Kealper> And my axe!
#1043 [11:38] <Kealper> i
#1044 [11:38] <Kealper> fail
#1045 [11:38] <Kealper> i've seen an increase of mobs since the update
#1046 [11:38] <ssen> ^
#1047 [11:38] <Gimli007> do u play in normal ?
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#1049 [11:39] <Kealper> multiplayer, which can't be changed off of "normal" :/
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#1052 [11:40] <Gimli007> ohcan it be my os?
#1053 [11:40] <Gimli007> the problem
#1054 [11:40] <Kealper> no, sound't me
#1055 [11:40] <Kealper> be
#1056 [11:40] <Kealper> dang
#1057 [11:40] <Kealper> shouldn't*
#1058 [11:41] <Gimli007> well i might need to explore this island has no caves so far
#1059 [11:42] <fogwraith> Rawr, nighttime
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#1062 [11:48] <Solvius> it takes some time to change servers
#1063 [11:48] <Solvius> two days now
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#1065 [11:49] <Solvius> yeah, the database is back online :)
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#1068 [11:51] <Jorc> H
#1069 [11:51] <Jorc> Hi &
#1070 [11:51] <Jorc> **
#1071 [11:52] <Jorc> Where is the minecraft.jar folder located? I thought it was supposed to be in the bin folder but I dont see one..
#1072 [11:52] <Jorc> I dont see one inside the bin folder * that is
#1073 [11:52] <mbentley> should be in the bin folder
#1074 [11:52] <aetherian> yeh, should be
#1075 [11:52] <aetherian> you're looking in appdata, right?
#1076 [11:53] <Jorc> only folder Ive got there is a 'natives' folder.
#1077 [11:53] <Jorc> And yeahh
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#1079 [11:53] <Shadowdemonx9> Yo
#1080 [11:53] <mbentley> could be it hasn't downloaded...
#1081 [11:53] <aetherian> natives?
#1082 [11:53] <aetherian> what is this?
#1083 [11:53] <Jorc> Its a folder I have in my minecraft bin
#1084 [11:54] <mbentley> which is normla
#1085 [11:54] <mbentley> *normal
#1086 [11:54] <aetherian> ohh
#1087 [11:54] <aetherian> I thought you meant something else
#1088 [11:54] <mbentley> Jorc: have you successfully logged into the client?
#1089 [11:54] <Jorc> Yepp
#1090 [11:54] <Jorc> entered world too just to make sure.
#1091 [11:55] <Jorc> Well
#1092 [11:56] <aetherian> did you check all folders within .minecraft
#1093 [11:56] <Jorc> I checked bin only as thats where it says it should be
#1094 [11:56] <Jorc> but yea just checked the others, not in there.
#1095 [11:57] <aetherian> did you try looking for hidden files
#1096 [11:57] <Jorc> nope, how do I do that?
#1097 [11:57] <aetherian> what os
#1098 [11:57] <Jorc> vista
#1099 [11:58] <aetherian> oh, I found your virus anyway
#1100 [11:58] <Jorc> my virus? o.o
#1101 [11:58] <i81u812> do you not get iron when offline?
#1102 [11:58] <i81u812> I have cut 2500 blocks approx. and found no iron today yet and im aways down..
#1103 [11:58] <mbentley> the client can't run without the files in 'bin' so are you sure you are looking in the right location?
#1104 [11:59] <Jorc> C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin
#1105 [11:59] <Jorc> is where i am
#1106 [11:59] <aetherian> look fo hidden files
#1107 [11:59] <mbentley> try start > run type in %appdata%\.minecraft
#1108 [11:59] <Shadowdemonx9> SO watsup with the server? They're being ported to some new ones?
#1109 [12:00] <mbentley> Shadowdemonx9: http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2812089385/the-web-server-is-struggling-were-migrating
#1110 [12:00] <Jorc> @mbentley yeah im there, thats what I did to find the folder originally so
#1111 [12:00] <Jorc> the files in my bin folder are:
#1112 [12:01] <Jorc> Natives ( a folder) jinput, lwjgl, lwjgl_util, minecraft, minecraft-1.2_01 & version
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#1114 [12:01] <mbentley> Jorc: are you running any mods?
#1115 [12:01] <Jorc> nope
#1116 [12:01] <mbentley> it is odd that you would have minecraft, minecraft-1.2_01 unless you did that
#1117 [12:02] <mbentley> running the .exe?
#1118 [12:03] <Jorc> how come its odd?
#1119 [12:03] <Jorc> and yeah i ran minecraft and it updated it to that
#1120 [12:03] <Jorc> version 1.2_01
#1121 [12:03] <aetherian> brb
#1122 [12:06] <DopeGhoti> Are there still authentication issues?
#1123 [12:07] <aetherian> bock
#1124 [12:09] <fogwraith> Hmph, opers should not be having to put up with muppets killing them
#1125 [12:10] <DopeGhoti> wha?
#1126 [12:10] <aetherian> that's what I was going to say
#1127 [12:10] <mbentley> because minecraft shouldn't create directories like that
#1128 [12:10] <mbentley> that is why it is odd
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#1130 [12:11] <aetherian> oh jorc, have you tried deleteing .minecraft and rerunning minecraft.exe/jar
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#1132 [12:12] <jeansd> hello, i get this error when i try to run my own server "internal client error: java.net.connectexception: connection timed out: connect" anyone know what it is?
#1133 [12:12] <mbentley> it means the authentication server isn't working correctly
#1134 [12:12] <mbentley> ie - minecraft.net is down
#1135 [12:13] <funtz> I just bought the game but its still says : User not premium.. And on www.minecraft.net it still says "Buy Now"
#1136 [12:13] <Sun7zu> Yeah, or just very unstable :>
#1137 [12:13] <mbentley> at least in this instance...
#1138 [12:13] <jeansd> so i just have to wait till my server will work?
#1139 [12:13] <aetherian> I shall be ever so glad when minecraft is back up...
#1140 [12:13] <mbentley> pretty much
#1141 [12:13] <funtz> I just bought the game but its still says : User not premium.. And on www.minecraft.net it still says "Buy Now"
#1142 [12:13] <jeansd> thnx for ht help
#1143 [12:14] <i81u812> so Im not seeing any pages up yet anyone else either?
#1144 [12:14] <mbentley> funtz: it is pretty safe to assume that since minecraft.net isn't running well, payment processing may be delayed
#1145 [12:14] <funtz> Do you know how long its delayed?
#1146 [12:15] <mbentley> no way of knowing
#1147 [12:15] <i81u812> wow I got on the mainpage
#1148 [12:15] <Shadowdemonx9> yeah me too xD
#1149 [12:16] <i81u812> now I m trying the exe.
#1150 [12:16] <funtz> okay, but do i need to buy the game again or :O ?
#1151 [12:16] <mbentley> NO
#1152 [12:16] <mbentley> do not buy it again
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#1154 [12:16] <mbentley> unless you want 2 copies...
#1155 [12:16] <Shadowdemonx9> xD
#1156 [12:16] <mbentley> :D
#1157 [12:16] <Shadowdemonx9> what he said
#1158 [12:16] <Shadowdemonx9> but hey people like the game so much they need 2 copies =o
#1159 [12:16] <funtz> Okay, i just need to wait?
#1160 [12:16] <i81u812> 0.o downloading packages the exe is online
#1161 [12:16] <i81u812> .....
#1162 [12:17] <i81u812> lol and why does my main page now say oicu812... my username is i81u812
#1163 [12:17] <i81u812> on the desktop lol Notch customized me
#1164 [12:18] <i81u812> I took a picture now im uploading it
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#1167 [12:22] <i81u812> http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n229/backspacemaster/?action=view¤t=i81u812.jpg
#1168 [12:22] <i81u812> thats sweet
#1169 [12:23] <Shadowdemonx9> Lol
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#1171 [12:24] <i81u812> <<<<
#1172 [12:24] <i81u812> awesome
#1173 [12:24] <Shadowdemonx9> xD
#1174 [12:25] <Shadowdemonx9> anyone know when the servers will be finished porting?
#1175 [12:25] <i81u812> idk but Ive been breaking bricks for a long time with no iron I hope I find some now
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#1177 [12:25] <Gimli007> hello
#1178 [12:26] <DopeGhoti> g'morning, Gimli007
#1179 [12:26] <Gimli007> im bit disapointed with the las update
#1180 [12:26] <Gimli007> Reduced spawn rates a bit
#1181 [12:26] <DopeGhoti> seen Bilbo lately?
#1182 [12:26] <Gimli007> how can we make notch have the game like b4?
#1183 [12:26] <Gimli007> yea
#1184 [12:27] <Gimli007> his with 007
#1185 [12:27] <Gimli007> :D
#1186 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> how can we "make" notch do something? hmm, bribe him with curries or pizzas?
#1187 [12:27] <Gimli007> i don't know how to contact him
#1188 [12:28] <Gimli007> and i feel this is starting to be a waste of game
#1189 [12:28] <Gimli007> after buying it
#1190 [12:28] <DopeGhoti> twitter @notch; email notch@mojang.com, but he gets a _lot_ of feelers sent his way.
#1191 [12:28] <DopeGhoti> he's said that he'lll be in the future implementing more granular controls of difficulty
#1192 [12:28] <DopeGhoti> right now, though, servers are either with monsters, or without, unlike SSP where there are several spawn rates.
#1193 [12:29] <Gimli007> ok
#1194 [12:30] <Gimli007> so much for minecraft for now i think now i can play dwarf fortess
#1195 [12:30] <Gimli007> as minecraft gets me bored now
#1196 [12:30] <DopeGhoti> Also, once the mod API is out, I'm sure that a spawn adjustment mod will be out quickly
#1197 [12:31] <Gimli007> ok thx
#1198 [12:31] <DopeGhoti> How can it be boring? He just started putting departure and arrival chimes wired to a 'PA System' in one of our community centres' subway stations :)
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#1201 [12:32] <DopeGhoti> Salutations, Rotab; Samppa.
#1202 [12:33] <i81u812> that picture is still so awesome
#1203 [12:33] <aetherian> which
#1204 [12:33] <i81u812> http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n229/backspacemaster/?action=view¤t=i81u812.jpg
#1205 [12:33] <i81u812> <<<<
#1206 [12:33] <i81u812> thus the name
#1207 [12:34] <aetherian> uhh
#1208 [12:34] <aetherian> okay then
#1209 [12:34] <i81u812> what!
#1210 [12:34] <i81u812> that made my day
#1211 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> Ah, jokes that have been around since the early Paleolithic era.
#1212 [12:36] <TheReddeH> hello.i am try to running mincraft but it wil no work. wat is problem
#1213 [12:36] <fogwraith> I tried to start my car, but it wouldn't start... whats the problem!?
#1214 [12:36] * Roenie slaps TheReddeH
#1214 [12:37] <TheReddeH> wat dos slaps meen
#1215 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> TheReddeH: The friendly folks at Mojang seem still to be having problems with the authentication server. Give it time.
#1216 [12:37] <Kaito> TheReddeH: my computer is broken. WHy doens't it work?
#1217 [12:37] <i81u812> fix it
#1218 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> Why didn't I think of that?
#1219 [12:37] * DopeGhoti fixes it
#1219 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> there you go! All better!
#1220 [12:37] <i81u812> of course so simple
#1221 [12:37] <TheReddeH> i am no understand. do you have easy english?
#1222 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> TheReddeH: servers broken. wait until they are fixed, then Minecraft will work.
#1223 [12:38] <i81u812> the easiest
#1224 [12:38] <TheReddeH> so i am have wait?
#1225 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> TheReddeH: What is your native language?
#1226 [12:38] <Roenie> trollinese
#1227 [12:39] <funtz> TheReddeH: Where are you from
#1228 [12:39] <TheReddeH> well it aint friggin english
#1229 [12:39] <DopeGhoti> I did not ask what it is not; I asked what it is.
#1230 [12:39] <TheReddeH> im from trolland
#1231 [12:39] <TheReddeH> err netherlands
#1232 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> Serverne er ødelagt akkurat nå. Forhåpentligvis vil de være i drift snart, men vi vet ikke når dette vil skje.
#1233 [12:40] <TheReddeH> so... anyone up for some scrabble? im sure youll win
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#1235 [12:40] <TheReddeH> that sounds so scandinavian
#1236 [12:40] <TheReddeH> well.. looks rather
#1237 [12:40] <fogwraith> Norweigan?
#1238 [12:41] <i81u812> whats a snart?
#1239 [12:41] <TheReddeH> my second name is sören xD
#1240 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> It's way too early in the day of I'm conflating Norway and the Netherlands :p
#1241 [12:41] <TheReddeH> lol!
#1242 [12:41] <TheReddeH> you are so cheating on translations
#1243 [12:42] <DopeGhoti> De servers zijn nu gebroken. Hopelijk zullen ze binnenkort operationeel, maar we weten niet wanneer dit zal gebeuren.
#1244 [12:42] <fogwraith> Funny players... decide to go on a stealing-spree, gang up on the administrator, kill him, steal his stuff, start tossing stacks out one item at a time
#1245 [12:42] <fogwraith> Way to get banned
#1246 [12:42] <TheReddeH> yeah.. dont use those auto-translators, theyre crap ;p
#1247 [12:42] <DopeGhoti> I don't use them for languages I know
#1248 [12:43] <TheReddeH> so you use them for every language but english ;;p
#1249 [12:43] <DopeGhoti> I also know German, C, Python, and PHP.
#1250 [12:43] <TheReddeH> php :>
#1251 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> and some SQL
#1252 [12:44] <TheReddeH> c :>
#1253 [12:44] <TheReddeH> lol
#1254 [12:44] <TheReddeH> i bet the girls are impressed :P
#1255 [12:44] <fogwraith> ASM gets you all the hot ladies
#1256 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> the point being- your English was so broken that I was trying to be helpful.
#1257 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> fogwraith: hah!
#1258 [12:44] <TheReddeH> i know dutch, english, german and... chinese (mandarin)
#1259 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> fogwraith: APL works better.
#1260 [12:44] <i81u812> so.. did they discontinue iron?
#1261 [12:44] <fogwraith> ;P
#1262 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> i81u812: no.
#1263 [12:45] <i81u812> ok well wtf
#1264 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> fogwraith: they think all the weird symbols look cute.
#1265 [12:45] <fogwraith> But... that's horrible :/
#1266 [12:45] <i81u812> Ive been digging for iron and Ive only seen 4 coal ....
#1267 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> i81u812: dig deeper.
#1268 [12:45] <i81u812> for hours not iron lol
#1269 [12:45] <TheReddeH> i81u812: we care, honestly
#1270 [12:45] <i81u812> iron on the brain
#1271 [12:46] <TheReddeH> is it honest or honestly there ;p
#1272 [12:46] <i81u812> well thank you, honestly
#1273 [12:46] <TheReddeH> man i love sarcasm ;p
#1274 [12:46] <TheReddeH> and icecream <3
#1275 [12:47] <TheReddeH> DopeGhoti: say something hot in C
#1276 [12:47] <i81u812> lol
#1277 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> printf( "Something hot" );
#1278 [12:48] <TheReddeH> well.. i guess that'll work ;p
#1279 [12:48] <DopeGhoti> printf( "35,205 Kelvins" ); // Were you looking for something more specific?
#1280 [12:48] <TheReddeH> not sure about the pronunciation
#1281 [12:48] <TheReddeH> nog sure about the spelling
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#1283 [12:49] <TheReddeH> DopeGhoti: whats that in metric, im still dutch ;p
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#1285 [12:51] <DopeGhoti> TheReddeH: That _is_ metric.
#1286 [12:51] <TheReddeH> i ment in celcius :>
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#1288 [12:51] <zampa> kelvin... dotn they count from absolute zero?
#1289 [12:51] <zampa> so - 200 something
#1290 [12:51] <zampa> ?
#1291 [12:52] <TheReddeH> yeah
#1292 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> To get degrees centigrade, subtract 273.15 from Kelvins
#1293 [12:52] <TheReddeH> 0 kelvin = about -273 degrees c
#1294 [12:52] <zampa> aye
#1295 [12:53] <zampa> i were not sure if it were 243 or 273 minus thats why i werent more specific :P
#1296 [12:53] <Roenie> absolute zero cannot be reached in experiments, you can only get infinitely close, but not quite there... so how do you prove that it exists?
#1297 [12:53] <DopeGhoti> Roenie: how do you prove that the square root of two exists?
#1298 [12:53] <zampa> Hah.
#1299 [12:53] <DopeGhoti> oh, wait, this isn't #mathgeeks or #xkcd.
#1300 [12:54] <TheReddeH> you just have to believe :>
#1301 [12:54] <TheReddeH> and have faith n crap
#1302 [12:54] <TheReddeH> me, i just dont care
#1303 [12:54] <TheReddeH> :)
#1304 [12:54] <zampa> Did you know that 3.14 upside down says "pie"?
#1305 [12:54] <Roenie> Faith, isn't that for dumb people
#1306 [12:54] <zampa> atleast in some fonts :>
#1307 [12:55] <TheReddeH> pie is something totally different from pi
#1308 [12:55] <DopeGhoti> not phonetically.
#1309 [12:55] <zampa> true, but it is a wordplay duh.
#1310 [12:55] <TheReddeH> i like pie better
#1311 [12:56] <TheReddeH> in french it is! ;p
#1312 [12:56] <Roenie> TheReddeH, have you been drinking?
#1313 [12:56] <Roenie> ;p
#1314 [12:56] <TheReddeH> im on the rebound from my minecrack
#1315 [12:57] <Roenie> it's not nice to mine people's cracks
#1316 [12:57] <TheReddeH> and yes i had a few coffees today
#1317 [12:57] <zampa> I take it teh world in minecraft is randomly generated?
#1318 [12:57] <Roenie> bbl
#1319 [12:57] <TheReddeH> no its always the same you just start at different places :>
#1320 [12:57] <TheReddeH> wait.. no its random
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#1322 [12:58] <DopeGhoti> zampa: pseudoramdomly, yes.
#1323 [12:58] <zampa> DopeGhoti: ofcourse.
#1324 [12:58] <zampa> Has to be some criterias otherwise it'd just be a mess.
#1325 [12:58] <zampa> Now... how hard is lava to find?
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#1327 [12:59] <zampa> should i just travel far? or dig around at bottom?
#1328 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> zampa: the level.dat file contains the keep from which the level was generated, so you can use that to make duplicate worlds.
#1329 [12:59] <i81u812> pretty easy if you go travel downward
#1330 [12:59] <zampa> i have made a insane tunnel network now.
#1331 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> zampa: ^that. You, if you explore the surface, will also encounter the occasional magma lake.
#1332 [12:59] <zampa> at the bottom.
#1333 [12:59] <TheReddeH> in theory the minecraft world can get 8 times larger than the surface of the erath i read
#1334 [13:00] <TheReddeH> earth*
#1335 [13:00] <zampa> i gave up just mining everything and started making rooms and such
#1336 [13:00] <zampa> i guess ill eventually ad a rail in there since it starts to take some time to run back
#1337 [13:00] <fogwraith> Oh... I see... no free spotify for linux eh >_O
#1338 [13:00] <DopeGhoti> zampa: http://i.imgur.com/8EATR.png
#1339 [13:00] <Mjiig> fogwraith: it sucks, but the wine version runs almost perfectly
#1340 [13:01] <i81u812> I have mined out the ground so much around me everytime i find a new mine it always ends up connected to a previous one I had already
#1341 [13:01] <fogwraith> Mjiig: oho?
#1342 [13:01] <zampa> now i dont get that graph... "levels from bedrock"?
#1343 [13:01] <Mjiig> *windows version runs almost perfectly in win i meant
#1344 [13:02] <zampa> is that the very bottom?
#1345 [13:02] * fogwraith runs it in Wine
#1345 [13:02] <fogwraith> Lets see
#1346 [13:02] <TheReddeH> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Ore
#1347 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> zampa: bedrock ~= Adminium
#1348 [13:02] <zampa> Sorry i dont have english as my native language. I tend to get confused at times.
#1349 [13:02] <zampa> Ah thank you.
#1350 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> zampa: Bedrock is Y-level -64; the bottom of the world.
#1351 [13:03] <zampa> I see.
#1352 [13:03] <zampa> let me load the game and see where i am at
#1353 [13:03] <zampa> in my tunnel network
#1354 [13:03] <TheReddeH> press f3
#1355 [13:03] <zampa> yeah I will just need to load the game.
#1356 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> good luck with that :/
#1357 [13:04] <TheReddeH> ;p
#1358 [13:04] <zampa> Playing singleplayer works.
#1359 [13:04] <aetherian> I wonder if the commodore 64 would work on tellies still
#1360 [13:04] <TheReddeH> single player is fine
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#1362 [13:05] <kinggold171> hi
#1363 [13:05] <TheReddeH> lo
#1364 [13:06] <Mjiig> middle
#1365 [13:06] <kinggold171> anyone know whats wrong with the world of minecraft client/
#1366 [13:06] <kinggold171> ?
#1367 [13:06] <TheReddeH> yeah
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#1369 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> kinggold171: nothing; it's the auth server that's having problems.
#1370 [13:07] <Neon> How can it be that my connection times out permanently when I try to log in joining a server and another player just needs one try and is able to login immediately?
#1371 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> zampa: This you may also find helpful (it's a bit old though): http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2010/09/Mining-levels-in-minecraft.png
#1372 [13:07] <kinggold171> it updated then died from jarva errors
#1373 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> kinggold171: again; not a client problem; it's a server issue.
#1374 [13:07] <kinggold171> ok
#1375 [13:08] <mr_trousers> soo all we gotta do is wait for minecraft.net to be up to fix the server issues?
#1376 [13:08] <TheReddeH> it wont be up.. notch is making a run for it with our moneys
#1377 [13:08] <TheReddeH> ;p
#1378 [13:08] <mr_trousers> haha
#1379 [13:08] <mr_trousers> that must suck for all the people who bought the game yesterday
#1380 [13:09] <funtz> i bought today, and cant game :-(
#1381 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> mr_trousers: in all seriousness though; yes, they're working on beefing up the server infrastructure and then all will be well
#1382 [13:09] <mbentley> thaht is surprising you were able to get through to buy it funtz :D
#1383 [13:09] <mr_trousers> because
#1384 [13:09] <mbentley> *that
#1385 [13:09] <mr_trousers> yesterday i just happend to deciede to host a server with friends and it wouldnt let me connect
#1386 [13:09] <zampa> DopeGhoti: thanks.
#1387 [13:10] <zampa> Yeah I am at 6.62
#1388 [13:10] <DopeGhoti> zampa: \o
#1389 [13:10] <funtz> DopeGhoti?
#1390 [13:10] <DopeGhoti> funtz: ?
#1391 [13:10] <funtz> Do you know how long time it takes??
#1392 [13:10] <funtz> To get server up
#1393 [13:10] <mr_trousers> what do you mean by that?
#1394 [13:10] <DopeGhoti> funtz: I don't work at Mojang, so I can only guess.
#1395 [13:11] <DopeGhoti> So far, my guesses have been too optimistic.
#1396 [13:11] <funtz> I am mad, i just bought the game but it says : User not premium
#1397 [13:11] <zampa> DopeGhoti: I cant go any deeper without having to dig one hole here and there... cannt make sure I always cut a nice floor
#1398 [13:11] <mbentley> well not only are they bringing new servers up but they are separating many different processes to multiple servers
#1399 [13:11] <mr_trousers> it will run much smoother
#1400 [13:11] <mr_trousers> but switching to the new amazon cloud server in the worst case scenario could take a week
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#1402 [13:13] <mr_trousers> well, time to find something to do while were being tortured by notch
#1403 [13:13] <mr_trousers> good luck guys
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#1411 [13:35] <sTEINHAUG> Hi, my m8 are hosting a Minecraft server on his network. Ive been in there several times but, i uasly have log in problems aswell.
#1412 [13:36] <sTEINHAUG> Any way to fix it?
#1413 [13:37] <zz> minecraft.net is having problems. Keep trying, and you might get in
#1414 [13:37] <CruelNoise> yeah
#1415 [13:37] <CruelNoise> I'm not sure if the webserver and the auth server are seperate
#1416 [13:37] <zz> They aren't, which is half the problem
#1417 [13:37] <CruelNoise> Though, if mojang's other networking habits are anything to go by
#1418 [13:37] <CruelNoise> yeah...
#1419 [13:38] <sTEINHAUG> Now we got problem to login the account
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#1421 [13:42] <CruelNoise> yeah, minecraft's having problems =/
#1422 [13:43] <sTEINHAUG> yea... :( I want to buuuild
#1423 [13:43] <Shadowdemonx9> ??
#1424 [13:44] <Shadowdemonx9> Well their porting the servers over so it can handle the load better, to my understanding of it anyways.
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#1426 [13:44] <Shadowdemonx9> Seems to be up now though.
#1427 [13:44] <TheReddeH> lies!
#1428 [13:44] <CruelNoise> You should be able to play singleplayer
#1429 [13:44] <CruelNoise> afaik
#1430 [13:44] <Shadowdemonx9> I'm playing multiplayer at the moment.
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#1432 [13:45] <CruelNoise> yeah, it's just really slow.
#1433 [13:45] <redkid> hi
#1434 [13:45] <CruelNoise> hiya
#1435 [13:45] <redkid> Can everyone Help me?
#1436 [13:45] <Shadowdemonx9> Hi
#1437 [13:45] <CruelNoise> everyone?
#1438 [13:45] <CruelNoise> =3
#1439 [13:45] <Shadowdemonx9> xD?
#1440 [13:45] <CruelNoise> What's the matter.
#1441 [13:45] <Shadowdemonx9> ^
#1442 [13:46] <redkid> Yeah sorry i come frome Germany my english is bad but i will buy me Minecraft but i havent paypal but i have a paysafecard can everyone buy me a gift code and i give you this paysvecard buyed on monday
#1443 [13:46] <Lorax> does a spawner need more than one face or the top open ot work?
#1444 [13:47] <Shadowdemonx9> I don't know about the spawner so much lorax
#1445 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> Lorax: AFAIK, the spawner needs one side-face open and level ground; tehy seem to spawn things adjacent to them, not atop
#1446 [13:47] <zz> I don't think they need any face open
#1447 [13:48] <Shadowdemonx9> How does a spawner work anyways? Are the monster spawn just random?
#1448 [13:48] <Lorax> you set the type or use a mod that gives a menu to change it
#1449 [13:48] <CruelNoise> redkid: You would have more luck if you bought a prepaid credit card.
#1450 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> CruelNoise: erm, no
#1451 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> prepaid cards don't work well with PayPal or international purchases
#1452 [13:49] <CruelNoise> You can't buy it with a paysafe card.
#1453 [13:49] <CruelNoise> I dunno.
#1454 [13:49] <Shadowdemonx9> Ah, ok...yeah I don't know exactly how it works. I just know I place one down and that's it. I don't know how to set the type or anything specific
#1455 [13:50] <DopeGhoti> redkid: Hast ein Konto bei einer Bank?
#1456 [13:50] <DopeGhoti> redkid: Verwendst PayPal damit.
#1457 [13:52] <redkid> ne ich hab kein paypal und konto auch net
#1458 [13:52] <redkid> ich geb dir die card und du kaufst mir das spiel
#1459 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> redkid: Tut mir Leid; denn muss Mann ein Bank oder PayPal Konto haben.
#1460 [13:53] <redkid> okay bye
#1461 [13:55] <CruelNoise> german is such an intersting language.
#1462 [13:55] <Kane_Hart> Anyone here know much about SMP and hyperthreading
#1463 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> I agree. How do you find it so?
#1464 [13:55] <CruelNoise> Well, in english you only capitalize the beginning of a sentence and proper nouns.
#1465 [13:56] <CruelNoise> What dictates what you capitalize in German?
#1466 [13:58] <xales> Kane_Hart: Yes. It doesn't support it, at all :P
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#1468 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> CruelNoise: all nouns.
#1469 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> (and the start of a sentence)
#1470 [14:02] <CruelNoise> huh
#1471 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> so it's simpler, really :)
#1472 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> (Just reported on Twitter: present state of MC logins will likely persis until Cluster migration is complete)
#1473 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> (No ETA reporteD)
#1474 [14:05] * xales knew this since last night =/
#1474 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> xales: /me assumed, but it's nice to have actual horse's-mouth confirmation
#1475 [14:05] * xales had this last night
#1475 [14:06] <xales> :P
#1476 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> Yes, but you apparently are _part of_ the horse :p
#1477 [14:07] <xales> >:D
#1478 [14:07] * CruelNoise slaps xales
#1478 [14:07] * xales slaps CruelNoise around a bit with a large trout
#1478 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> (care to share any prognosis on the Migration? (: )
#1479 [14:07] * CruelNoise slaps xales... in the face.
#1479 [14:07] <CruelNoise> It's a secret too everybody.
#1480 [14:07] <xales> DopeGhoti: We don't know anything more, we just heard it before you did
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#1482 [14:08] * DopeGhoti nods
#1482 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> I'm curious- did load just hit some sort of critical mass, or is does this seem to be another DDoS?
#1483 [14:08] <feenyx> critical mass
#1484 [14:09] <feenyx> otherwise it's not a very successful DDoS
#1485 [14:09] <CruelNoise> yeah
#1486 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> I don't know, there's a lot of reports of service being denied :p
#1487 [14:09] <Lexshu> hello
#1488 [14:09] <CruelNoise> did you know that each client downloads skins (and capes) from minecraft.net seperatly?
#1489 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> I did.
#1490 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> Lexshu: gesundheit.
#1491 [14:10] <Lexshu> can i report a bug in here?
#1492 [14:10] <CruelNoise> if the server got it from the client or minecraft.net, and then distributed it
#1493 [14:10] <CruelNoise> Lexshu: no, go to the GetSatisfaction page
#1494 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> Lexshu: it won't to a terrible about of good, but sure :)
#1495 [14:10] <xales> Lexshu: What is the bug?
#1496 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> for getter rsults.. ^that.
#1497 [14:10] <xolotl> I think the usual amount of legitimate traffic to minecraft.net probably counts as a DDOS. :)
#1498 [14:10] <Kaito> xD
#1499 [14:11] <CruelNoise> yep.
#1500 [14:11] <feenyx> touch´.
#1501 [14:11] <Lexshu> well i crash alot if i meet mobs i think
#1502 [14:11] <feenyx> err
#1503 [14:11] <feenyx> touché
#1504 [14:11] <Lexshu> in single player
#1505 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft: The new slashdot :)
#1506 [14:11] <xales> Lexshu: That isn't a bug
#1507 [14:11] <xales> Lexshu: What error do you get when that happens?
#1508 [14:11] <xales> (if any)
#1509 [14:11] <Lexshu> why i crash? the screen just turns black asnd then minecraft dosent reply
#1510 [14:12] <Lexshu> it happends alot when i have alot of aktivity
#1511 [14:12] <xales> How much RAM does your computer have?
#1512 [14:12] <Kaito> maybe you CPU/Graphics card sucks?
#1513 [14:12] <Lexshu> plenty
#1514 [14:12] <CruelNoise> Lexshu: just give the man a number.
#1515 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> define 'plenty'
#1516 [14:12] <Lexshu> i have i7 core and tons of ram
#1517 [14:12] <CruelNoise> also, what's a slashdot
#1518 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> define 'tons'.
#1519 [14:13] <xales> How much ram, exactly
#1520 [14:13] <CruelNoise> Lexshu: how much ram do you have?
#1521 [14:13] <Lexshu> to my gforce gtx 285
#1522 [14:13] <CruelNoise> dude
#1523 [14:13] <CruelNoise> RAM
#1524 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> CruelNoise: it's a site that used to, when it would link in an article to a site, cause the server it linked to to turn purple, grab its chest, and fall over. STFW for 'slashdot effect'.
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#1526 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Pommesgabel.
#1527 [14:14] <CruelNoise> oh
#1528 [14:14] <CruelNoise> it was just that popular?
#1529 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> CruelNoise: seemingly so
#1530 [14:14] <CruelNoise> sounds like notch's twitter
#1531 [14:14] <Lexshu> Memory
#1532 [14:14] <Lexshu> Total Size
#1533 [14:14] <Lexshu> 6144 MB
#1534 [14:14] <Lexshu> Modules
#1535 [14:14] <CruelNoise> see?
#1536 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> CruelNoise: heh.
#1537 [14:15] <Lexshu> 6 gb ram
#1538 [14:15] <CruelNoise> you could have just said "six gigs" and been done with it.
#1539 [14:15] <Lexshu> and i still crush
#1540 [14:15] <Lexshu> well i wasent sure how much :P
#1541 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> What version of Java? Have you the lastest video drivers?
#1542 [14:15] <xales> Lexshu: Do you have any antivirus software instaleld?
#1543 [14:16] <Lexshu> i use avg
#1544 [14:16] <Lexshu> and java is update regulary
#1545 [14:16] <CruelNoise> do a clean install of both java and your drivers
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#1547 [14:17] <Lexshu> but the game isent that demanding in graphics, bit it needs alot of process
#1548 [14:17] <Lexshu> i just cant see why i should crash
#1549 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> Lexshu: Just because the graphics are retro, doesn't mean they're not complex.
#1550 [14:18] <xales> Minecraft actually is more demanding in graphics than many games
#1551 [14:18] <Lexshu> i know its complex but it demans more in cpu than graphic right?
#1552 [14:18] <CruelNoise> has to render each blog seperatly =.-
#1553 [14:18] <xales> No, graphics are higher than CPU usually
#1554 [14:19] <Lexshu> k
#1555 [14:19] <DopeGhoti> real-time lighting and shading, transparency, translucency, and Z-buffering 1-meter tiles from POV to the horizon ain't cheap.
#1556 [14:19] <CruelNoise> Lexshu: are you running on "fancy" mode?
#1557 [14:19] <Lexshu> yes
#1558 [14:19] <CruelNoise> turn tha toff and see if it crashes
#1559 [14:19] <Lexshu> u think i should try lower settings and iff if i dont crash?
#1560 [14:19] <Lexshu> ok
#1561 [14:19] <Lexshu> ill try that first
#1562 [14:22] <Lexshu> reminds mee when i played mount and play and i use a army size editor and the game start lagging aot :D
#1563 [14:22] <Lexshu> am i the only one that gets cant connect to minecraft.net when i start it? had that in 2 days
#1564 [14:23] <xales> Nope, everyone has that
#1565 [14:23] <xales> Kealper, fix the bot.
#1566 [14:23] <xales> Put that in it
#1567 [14:23] <xales> D:
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#1569 [14:23] <CruelNoise> "Minecraft.net is fucked."
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#1570 [14:31] <Shadowdemonx9> wahh =o
#1571 [14:31] <Shadowdemonx9> i downloaded it and it's working alirght for me
#1572 [14:31] <Shadowdemonx9> as long as i get into my dedi i'm alright =D
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#1577 [14:33] <Lexshu> so far i havent crash
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#1579 [14:36] <Lexshu> i saw a youtube video with lions and wolves and so it, is that the adventure part?
#1580 [14:37] <xales> There are no lions or wolves in Minecraft
#1581 [14:37] <Lexshu> u sure=?
#1582 [14:37] <xales> Absolutely. They do not exist in the game
#1583 [14:37] <Lexshu> ohh its a mod
#1584 [14:37] <Lexshu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmdYV8dCN7I
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#1588 [14:42] <Shadowdemonx9> Just crashed xD
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#1590 [14:43] <Kodiakwolfy> Even though the server thing was yesterday, are they still having problems today?
#1591 [14:43] <xales> They are migrating the servers
#1592 [14:43] <Kodiakwolfy> All my UK friends can connect but it seems my two US friends cannot along with myself.
#1593 [14:43] <xales> it wasn't just a one-day thing
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#1596 [14:45] <Hard24get> anyone herer
#1597 [14:46] <xales> Nope
#1598 [14:46] <xales> Just you
#1599 [14:46] <Hard24get> Ok so im guessing Minecraft is offline atm
#1600 [14:46] <xales> Indeed it is
#1601 [14:46] <Hard24get> Ah well its just alpha aperantly
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#1603 [14:47] <feenyx> it's not alpha anymore
#1604 [14:47] <Hard24get> cus i can get on my classic
#1605 [14:47] <Hard24get> I mean beta lol
#1606 [14:47] <xales> Classic doesn't do any verification
#1607 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> liiks like it'll be issueful for another several hours at least, as the Swedes are off to sleep now
#1608 [14:47] <feenyx> they better not be, as it's only a quarter to nine
#1609 [14:47] <Hard24get> Yeah when i try to get on beta it wont get past the java page so i was just wondering if my java was screwed up
#1610 [14:48] <Hard24get> well they kind of have been workign since like 7 am over there?
#1611 [14:48] <feenyx> by choice, if so :p
#1612 [14:49] <Hard24get> thats like 15 hours..
#1613 [14:49] <xales> It takes a while to migrate servers to an entirely new platform
#1614 [14:49] <Hard24get> indeed it does xales
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#1616 [14:51] <Hard24get> didnt know notch added sandstone
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#1618 [14:53] <esper_kexkxe> hey
#1619 [14:53] <Hard24get> hi
#1620 [14:53] <esper_kexkxe> who can help me
#1621 [14:54] <Hard24get> whats wrong
#1622 [14:54] <feenyx> esper_kexkxe: that depends entirely on what question you're going to ask
#1623 [14:54] <feenyx> so ask it
#1624 [14:54] <esper_kexkxe> i downloading mod and need 1.1_02 mod reader
#1625 [14:54] <esper_kexkxe> i cant find
#1626 [14:54] <Hard24get> wich mod?
#1627 [14:54] <esper_kexkxe> all update to 1.2
#1628 [14:54] <esper_kexkxe> mod reader
#1629 [14:54] <Hard24get> i dont know much about mods
#1630 [14:54] <xales> esper_kexkxe: Why do you need 1.1_02? Just update to 1.2
#1631 [14:55] <esper_kexkxe> i want 1.1_02
#1632 [14:55] <xales> Why?
#1633 [14:55] <esper_kexkxe> i dont want 1.2
#1634 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> The only mod supported in #MineCraftHelp is the "Wait For The Mod API" Mod.
#1635 [14:55] <xales> esper_kexkxe: What is your username for Minecraft?
#1636 [14:55] <feenyx> we support the game itself, not the mods
#1637 [14:55] <esper_kexkxe> owh
#1638 [14:55] <esper_kexkxe> go to #minecraft?
#1639 [14:55] <xales> No
#1640 [14:56] <xales> Mods are not supported in any official channel
#1641 [14:56] <esper_kexkxe> lol
#1642 [14:56] <esper_kexkxe> ok
#1643 [14:56] <xales> What is your username, by the way?
#1644 [14:56] <esper_kexkxe> why?
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#1646 [14:56] <xales> I want to verify you actually own the game
#1647 [14:56] <esper_kexkxe> i dont want make enemy at here =x
#1648 [14:57] <esper_kexkxe> dont find me
#1649 [14:57] <xales> There is little reason to play an outdated version, otherwise
#1650 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> ..?
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#1652 [14:57] <esper_kexkxe> 1 thing is why i login and i cant update mc?
#1653 [14:57] <esper_kexkxe> server down?
#1654 [14:57] <xales> esper_kexkxe: Minecraft is currently down.
#1655 [14:57] <esper_kexkxe> ok
#1656 [14:58] <NinjaKirby> Some Chords
#1657 [14:58] <esper_kexkxe> thank for your information
#1658 [14:58] <xales> Do you mind telling me your username so I can verify you own the game? Otherwise, I must ask you to leave
#1659 [14:58] <esper_kexkxe> okok bye bye
#1660 [14:58] <esper_kexkxe> i am done
#1661 [14:58] <NinjaKirby> lol, HMMMMM!
#1662 [14:58] <xales> I'm going to guess you don't actually have one right?
#1663 [14:59] <xales> That would be correct
#1664 [14:59] <fogwraith> 1x1 towers... goddamn eyesores
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#1666 [15:00] <xales> =/
#1667 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> fogwraith: that's why I want to make a tensile strength mod :)
#1668 [15:01] <fogwraith> ;)
#1669 [15:01] <fogwraith> That would be very nice
#1670 [15:06] <Odenn> the login page is still fucked up
#1671 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> Odenn: indeed.
#1672 [15:06] <Odenn> sometimes you get in sometimes you wont
#1673 [15:06] * DopeGhoti points at the topic.
#1673 [15:07] <Odenn> sometimes you get logged in to the servers, and sometimes not
#1674 [15:07] <Hard24get> erll
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#1677 [15:07] <xales> Odenn: /topic for the win
#1678 [15:07] <Hard24get> i cant even get past the java page
#1679 [15:07] <Hard24get> it says FAILED TO RUN THE APPLICATION
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#1681 [15:07] <Odenn> xales: ive read
#1682 [15:08] <Odenn> just stated the obvious
#1683 [15:08] <Kealper> ok back.... xales lolwut?
#1684 [15:08] <xales> Kealper: Put 'server is down - being migrated' stuff in Dumbbot
#1685 [15:08] <xales> also, did you see what I had my bot do to it? >:D
#1686 [15:08] <Kealper> yes lol
#1687 [15:09] <Kealper> and it should say that stuff already
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#1690 [15:09] <xales> I mean an !command
#1691 [15:09] <Kealper> oh
#1692 [15:09] <xales> because nobody reads those
#1693 [15:09] <xales> 12:37:49-!- AuBot was kicked from #MineCraftHelp by VoteSlave [I'm the better bot!]
#1694 [15:09] <xales> :)
#1695 [15:09] <Kealper> lol
#1696 [15:11] * xales fades back into idleland...
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#1697 [15:11] <Kealper> command will be !website
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#1699 [15:13] <Masterchilly> pardon me but is this the right channel so i can get help on mc forums?
#1700 [15:14] <Kealper> well, that depends, what help?
#1701 [15:14] <Masterchilly> well
#1702 [15:14] <Masterchilly> i've sent a request to the main admin to move my topics
#1703 [15:14] <Masterchilly> its been over 2 weeks and
#1704 [15:14] <Masterchilly> my topic hasnt been moved
#1705 [15:15] <Kealper> oh...that person might have figured that it was in the correct place
#1706 [15:15] <Kealper> or your message could have been lost in all the spam that i'm sure they get, so you might try sending the request again
#1707 [15:16] <Masterchilly> well i sent my pm to citricsquid in pm
#1708 [15:16] <Masterchilly> oh sorry
#1709 [15:16] <Masterchilly> i was typeing then i got lost :(
#1710 [15:16] <Masterchilly> thats y i said pm 2 times
#1711 [15:17] <Masterchilly> so yeah
#1712 [15:17] <Kealper> hmm...have you tried asking some of the moderators on the forum? they should be able to move stuff, too
#1713 [15:18] <Masterchilly> well seeing that i own a forum as well some groups that are considered mods can go into the admin panel and move stuff
#1714 [15:18] <Masterchilly> but
#1715 [15:18] <Masterchilly> i think thats highly unlikely for the mc forums
#1716 [15:19] <Kealper> can't hurt to ask :/
#1717 [15:19] <Masterchilly> indeed lol
#1718 [15:19] <Masterchilly> btw does citricsquid even come in this channel?
#1719 [15:19] <Kealper> no, not really
#1720 [15:20] <Masterchilly> hmm
#1721 [15:20] <Kealper> this channel is more for game support, and not forum stuff
#1722 [15:20] <Masterchilly> oh lol i see
#1723 [15:20] <Masterchilly> got any ideas where the best place to go for forum stuff?
#1724 [15:20] <Kealper> the forums, usually lol
#1725 [15:21] <Masterchilly> besides there lol
#1726 [15:21] <Masterchilly> maybe the main mc channel?
#1727 [15:21] <Kealper> you could try that, but be warned, that channel can get pretty stupid some times
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#1729 [15:21] <fogwraith> Only "pretty stupid"?
#1730 [15:22] <Kealper> lol
#1731 [15:22] <Masterchilly> lol i've heard the things in there
#1732 [15:22] <Masterchilly> kind of funny how people can be po mods and admins in there then wam
#1733 [15:22] <Masterchilly> the get banned/kicked
#1734 [15:23] <Masterchilly> "Don't try this at home kids"
#1735 [15:23] <Masterchilly> :P
#1736 [15:23] <Kealper> lol
#1737 [15:24] <Masterchilly> kealper are you the main man for this channel?
#1738 [15:24] <Kealper> one of them
#1739 [15:24] <Masterchilly> kool
#1740 [15:24] <Masterchilly> btw who set that topic about
#1741 [15:24] <Masterchilly> the main server is down, cry some more
#1742 [15:25] <Kealper> oh that lol....that was set as a joke from one of the other channel ops
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#1744 [15:25] <Masterchilly> lol
#1745 [15:25] <Masterchilly> i think its rather a good thing
#1746 [15:26] <Masterchilly> teh hee
#1747 [15:26] <Masterchilly> anyways
#1748 [15:26] <Masterchilly> oh great
#1749 [15:26] <Masterchilly> i forgot what i was gonna say -.-
#1750 [15:26] <Masterchilly> oh wait i remember
#1751 [15:26] <Masterchilly> i got 1 friend of mine to get the site to work
#1752 [15:27] <Masterchilly> i think goggle chrome is magic
#1753 [15:27] <Masterchilly> google
#1754 [15:27] <Masterchilly> well
#1755 [15:27] * Kealper uses Firefox
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#1756 [15:27] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1757 [15:27] <melo> hi all
#1758 [15:27] <Kealper> !website
#1759 [15:27] <Kealper> fail...
#1760 [15:27] <Kealper> hello melo
#1761 [15:27] <Kealper> rhymes :P
#1762 [15:27] <melo> xD
#1763 [15:28] <melo> i got a question
#1764 [15:28] <Masterchilly> i wish you guys the best of luck to deal with the cry babys that wanna back to minecrafting
#1765 [15:28] <Kealper> Masterchilly: lol
#1766 [15:28] <melo> b4 beta there was a multiplayer thing for minecraft rite?
#1767 [15:28] <Kealper> there still is
#1768 [15:28] <Masterchilly> as in server software?
#1769 [15:28] <melo> yea server
#1770 [15:28] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1771 [15:28] <Masterchilly> yes if your talking about server software
#1772 [15:28] <melo> didnt find it
#1773 [15:28] <Masterchilly> there is still
#1774 [15:28] <Masterchilly> oh
#1775 [15:28] <Kealper> !server
#1776 [15:29] <Masterchilly> >.>
#1777 [15:29] <melo> xD
#1778 [15:29] <Masterchilly> <.<
#1779 [15:29] <Masterchilly> lol
#1780 [15:29] <Kealper> <3 bots
#1781 [15:29] <melo> not loading
#1782 [15:29] <Masterchilly> i wish you good luck trying to set up a server
#1783 [15:29] <Kealper> !website
#1784 [15:29] <Kealper> <3 bots again
#1785 [15:29] <melo> well theres no luck i played on server with my friend for long time
#1786 [15:29] <Masterchilly> lol nice
#1787 [15:29] <melo> but it dont work anymore
#1788 [15:30] <Masterchilly> melo
#1789 [15:30] <Kealper> melo: things should start working normally again either tomorrow or the next day
#1790 [15:30] <Masterchilly> did he use a thing called a server mod or a server wrappper
#1791 [15:30] <Masterchilly> ?
#1792 [15:30] <melo> ARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#1793 [15:30] <Masterchilly> oh that lol
#1794 [15:30] <melo> thats what is says all the time im trying every week :D
#1795 [15:31] <Masterchilly> well
#1796 [15:31] <Kealper> how much is it saying that?
#1797 [15:31] <Masterchilly> its nothing major to worry abou
#1798 [15:31] <Masterchilly> about
#1799 [15:31] <Kealper> like every 10 sec or so?
#1800 [15:31] <melo> 2 secs after starting
#1801 [15:31] <melo> and im doing the same as i usually did
#1802 [15:31] <Kealper> because it's safe to ignore that if it does not say it like 10 billion times a second
#1803 [15:31] <Masterchilly> i have the issue as well
#1804 [15:31] <Masterchilly> so
#1805 [15:32] <Masterchilly> i don;t worry about it :D
#1806 [15:32] <melo> hm so no way to play with my m8
#1807 [15:32] <melo> :/
#1808 [15:32] <melo> and classic sux xD
#1809 [15:32] <Kealper> you could be hosting a server on a supercomputer and it would still say that after someone joins, leaves, or whe nthe server starts up lol
#1810 [15:32] <Masterchilly> in my opinion the reason is
#1811 [15:32] <Masterchilly> Get more ram :P
#1812 [15:32] <melo> i know i got a supercomputer xD
#1813 [15:32] <melo> more than 8gb?
#1814 [15:32] <Kealper> melo: you'll just have to wait for about a day or two longer, since Mojang is moving minecraft.net to a new server cluster
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#1816 [15:33] <Masterchilly> yes i agree with kealper
#1817 [15:33] <melo> ok good thing :D
#1818 [15:33] <melo> then c u and thx guys
#1819 [15:33] <Kealper> np
#1820 [15:33] <Masterchilly> np
#1821 [15:33] <Masterchilly> >.>
#1822 [15:34] <Masterchilly> <.<
#1823 [15:34] <Kealper> lol
#1824 [15:34] <Mjiig> Kealper: did you get to look at that pic in the end?
#1825 [15:34] <Masterchilly> i;ve only played minecraft for like 6-7 months and i got this kindof support stuff down :P
#1826 [15:34] <Kealper> Mjiig: yeah, quite weird, but i showed it to others, and they didn't think anything of it, so it must be a known bug
#1827 [15:35] <Kealper> Masterchilly: lol
#1828 [15:35] <Kealper> brb
#1829 [15:35] <Masterchilly> kk
#1830 [15:35] <Kealper> ok anywho
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#1832 [15:36] <Masterchilly> lol
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#1834 [15:37] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/cbZ6b.jpg it's my finished desk, and that is my minecraft server box under it :O
#1835 [15:37] <Kealper> that photo does not really do it justice though, you can't make out the nice features of the surface well
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#1837 [15:38] <banick> hi I bought minecraft today. when i try to update the game it always breaks down by 83% when loading the minecraft.jar. could anyone pls help me?
#1838 [15:38] <xolotl> !website
#1839 [15:38] <xolotl> (zomg it worked)
#1840 [15:38] <Kealper> :P
#1841 [15:39] <xolotl> Didn't know if I had to be in a list of allowed-users or something
#1842 [15:40] <Kealper> all commands can be used by anyone unless the allowed users say !disable, and then it's only available to them until they type !enable again
#1843 [15:40] <banick> i was just surprised that a friend of mine had no probs...
#1844 [15:40] <Kealper> and the disabling is only for when people start spamming !paid for !check and stuff
#1845 [15:40] <Kealper> banick: are you using windows?
#1846 [15:40] <Hard24get> Is the website back yet
#1847 [15:40] <banick> yes win7 64bit
#1848 [15:41] <Kealper> banick: go to %appdata%\.minecraft and delete the bin folder
#1849 [15:41] <Kealper> run minecraft again
#1850 [15:41] <banick> tried it...
#1851 [15:41] <Kealper> if it still fails to download, then it's probably something related to the website being stupid atm
#1852 [15:41] <Masterchilly> yay
#1853 [15:41] <Kealper> Hard24get: still slow :/
#1854 [15:42] <Hard24get> Dang
#1855 [15:42] <Masterchilly> i got citricsquid to help me
#1856 [15:42] <Kealper> indeed
#1857 [15:42] <Kealper> lol
#1858 [15:42] <Hard24get> i can never load past the JAVA
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#1860 [15:42] * Masterchilly runs around high-fiveing everyone
#1860 [15:44] * Kealper tries to fight the site fail and get on his server
#1860 [15:44] <NinjaKirby> Awesome reach style
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#1862 [15:45] <Tidbit12> Hey guys im having a very large problem
#1863 [15:45] <Hard24get> with
#1864 [15:46] <Tidbit12> oh yeah
#1865 [15:46] <Tidbit12> I updated my java yesterday
#1866 [15:46] <Tidbit12> and now my loader is broken
#1867 [15:46] <Hard24get> I know
#1868 [15:46] <Hard24get> i have the same problem
#1869 [15:46] <Hard24get> its just that minecraft is down atm
#1870 [15:46] <xolotl> !website
#1871 [15:46] <Kealper> define broken? how far does it get?
#1872 [15:46] <Hard24get> Does it stop at the Java loader
#1873 [15:47] <Tidbit12> it doesn't even begin
#1874 [15:47] <Hard24get> and after a while it shows up with an erro in the top left
#1875 [15:47] <Tidbit12> I'll double click the icon, and nothing will happen
#1876 [15:47] <Tidbit12> I'll check the taskmanager and the process of java is started
#1877 [15:47] <Tidbit12> but...nothing from there
#1878 [15:47] <Hard24get> does it show the java loading thign
#1879 [15:47] <Kealper> Tidbit12: have you tried redownloading the launcher?
#1880 [15:47] <Tidbit12> yes
#1881 [15:47] <Kealper> does it work in the browser?
#1882 [15:48] <Tidbit12> I can't access the website
#1883 [15:48] <Kealper> oh....yea...well then
#1884 [15:48] <Tidbit12> but i'll give it a shot
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#1886 [15:49] <Tidbit12> :\
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#1888 [15:49] <reims> are the servers down or something? I cant login
#1889 [15:49] <Kealper> !website
#1890 [15:49] <reims> thx
#1891 [15:49] <Tidbit12> I am attempting a reinstall of the update
#1892 [15:50] <Kealper> Tidbit12: what os are you using?
#1893 [15:50] <reims> too bad I really wanted to play ;(
#1894 [15:50] <Kealper> we all do lol
#1895 [15:50] <Tidbit12> im using vista
#1896 [15:50] <Kealper> ok then
#1897 [15:50] <Tidbit12> premium 32bit
#1898 [15:51] <Tidbit12> I need to update
#1899 [15:51] <Kealper> press the windows key, and type cmd in the start menu search, press enter
#1900 [15:51] <Tidbit12> Also...the browser version works fine
#1901 [15:51] <Kealper> when you have cmd open, tell me
#1902 [15:51] <Kaito> DELTREE system32?
#1903 [15:51] <Kaito> :P
#1904 [15:51] <Kealper> Tidbit12: hmmmm......
#1905 [15:51] <reims> where would be the best place to check if all is working again?
#1906 [15:51] <Tidbit12> also I have it open
#1907 [15:52] <Kealper> Tidbit12: it's probably something with that launcher that you are downloading, but for the heck of it type java -version and press enter
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#1909 [15:52] <obi-wan> -wan
#1910 [15:53] <obi-wan> it did it again.
#1911 [15:53] <Kealper> reims: by refreshing the website (not too fast though) every so often and if the website loads fast, you can log in again lol
#1912 [15:53] <Kealper> wut
#1913 [15:53] <obi-wan> is it the minecraft origin server thats messing up every update?
#1914 [15:53] <Tidbit12> Okay
#1915 [15:53] <reims> lol, you will ddos the website if you tell that to everyone ;)
#1916 [15:53] <Tidbit12> Its java version 1.6.0_20
#1917 [15:54] <reims> just wondering if there is like a status page of something
#1918 [15:54] <Kealper> obi-wan: their last server cracked under the load, they are moving to a new server now
#1919 [15:54] <obi-wan> ok
#1920 [15:54] <Kealper> Tidbit12: that is what the java -version thing says?
#1921 [15:54] <TheReddeH> maybe it was faster if the new server moved to them
#1922 [15:54] <Kealper> lol
#1923 [15:54] <obi-wan> lol
#1924 [15:54] <Tidbit12> yes
#1925 [15:55] <Kealper> hmm....try going to http://java.com and getting the latest update from there :/
#1926 [15:55] <obi-wan> still, it seems like there's a never ending supply of minecraft sever issues
#1927 [15:55] <Tidbit12> C:\Windows\system32>java -version
#1928 [15:55] <Tidbit12> java version "1.6.0_20"
#1929 [15:55] <Tidbit12> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
#1930 [15:55] <Tidbit12> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode, sharing)
#1931 [15:55] <Tidbit12> And I have
#1932 [15:55] <Tidbit12> I actually just reinstalled it
#1933 [15:56] <Kealper> that isn't the latest :/
#1934 [15:56] <obi-wan> lol
#1935 [15:56] <obi-wan> i think its 6-23 now
#1936 [15:56] <Tidbit12> then...
#1937 [15:56] <Tidbit12> why did it just say i have the latest version V_V
#1938 [15:56] <Kealper> it lies!
#1939 [15:56] <Tidbit12> Okay i'll go verify my version on java.com
#1940 [15:57] <Tidbit12> I wish I knew what version of java I used to have
#1941 [15:57] <Tidbit12> that way I could just roll it back
#1942 [15:57] <obi-wan> how long do you think it'lll take to fix?
#1943 [15:57] <obi-wan> the servers i mean
#1944 [15:57] <Tidbit12> well
#1945 [15:58] <Tidbit12> I would just wait it out
#1946 [15:58] <Tidbit12> its only been one day
#1947 [15:58] <Kealper> obi-wan: no idea...if i had to guess, i'd say another day or so to finish migrating stuff
#1948 [15:58] <obi-wan> ok, cuz i'm taking a trip and i was hoping i could play on the plane
#1949 [15:58] <obi-wan> cool
#1950 [15:58] <Tidbit12> oh I see
#1951 [15:59] <Tidbit12> I just reinstalled a different version V_V
#1952 [15:59] <obi-wan> any luck?
#1953 [15:59] <Tidbit12> i'll download 6-23 now
#1954 [16:00] <Tidbit12> I dont think I ever installed it in the first place
#1955 [16:00] <Kealper> java.com gives you an automatic update for that, iirc....
#1956 [16:00] <Tidbit12> meh oh well
#1957 [16:00] <Tidbit12> yeah, its given me the correct version to dl
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#1959 [16:01] <obi-wan> thats wierd, i got this cmd window last time
#1960 [16:01] <Tidbit12> Hopefully I'll be able to play some minecraft now
#1961 [16:01] <obi-wan> http://pastebin.com/jRK9Tr3t
#1962 [16:01] <Tidbit12> I've been wanting to enlarge my burrow
#1963 [16:01] <TheReddeH> is that what u call it
#1964 [16:01] <TheReddeH> wink wink.
#1965 [16:02] <TheReddeH> i can forward some spam
#1966 [16:02] <Tidbit12> indeed
#1967 [16:02] <obi-wan> meh
#1968 [16:02] <Tidbit12> I mean its a nice size already
#1969 [16:02] <obi-wan> gonna try again in twelve hours
#1970 [16:02] <Tidbit12> but I wouldn't mind some more room
#1971 [16:02] <Tidbit12> ;)
#1972 [16:02] <obi-wan> lol
#1973 [16:02] <Tidbit12> Obi, why run minecraft from the cmd promt?
#1974 [16:03] <obi-wan> curious
#1975 [16:03] <obi-wan> if its a virus like i have come to suspect then it may help me to diagnose it
#1976 [16:03] <Kealper> yes, because minecraft is totally a virus
#1977 [16:04] <obi-wan> i may be able to operate certain functions on my compy around it
#1978 [16:04] <brandong> LOL
#1979 [16:04] <brandong> what idiot thinks miencraft is a virus
#1980 [16:04] <brandong> and that running from cmd prompt
#1981 [16:04] <brandong> makes a difference
#1982 [16:04] <obi-wan> no i mean a virus thats is affecting my java
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#1984 [16:04] <brandong> if youre using anything after windows 2000
#1985 [16:04] <obi-wan> or my internet connection
#1986 [16:04] <brandong> the cmd prompt is virtual
#1987 [16:04] <brandong> and not even a real terminal
#1988 [16:04] <brandong> i run the java version of minecraft in linux
#1989 [16:04] <brandong> it doesnt effect anything
#1990 [16:05] <brandong> everything it does is output to the terminal
#1991 [16:05] <obi-wan> i got a wierd processes readout that said i was running 750,000 K loast time i ran my minecraft
#1992 [16:05] <brandong> and it does nothing more than what its supposed to
#1993 [16:05] <brandong> maybe your pc sucks
#1994 [16:05] <brandong> or you already got a virus
#1995 [16:05] <Kealper> wait.................
#1996 [16:05] <brandong> and minecraft using up all the memory
#1997 [16:05] <brandong> makes it fight for it
#1998 [16:05] <brandong> what anti virus do you use
#1999 [16:05] <Kealper> obi-wan: what process was using 750mb of ram? javaw.exe?
#2000 [16:06] <obi-wan> thats what i suspect
#2001 [16:06] <brandong> goto http://nod325.com and get a trial password
#2002 [16:06] <brandong> then go to http://eset.com
#2003 [16:06] <brandong> and get nod32 antivirus
#2004 [16:07] <Tidbit12> yarg
#2005 [16:07] <Tidbit12> it wont install the correct version
#2006 [16:07] <Tidbit12> <_<
#2007 [16:07] <Kealper> O.o
#2008 [16:07] <brandong> how come i cant talk in #minecraft
#2009 [16:07] <brandong> anyone know the name of the texture pack that looks similar to the tron one
#2010 [16:07] <Kealper> brandong: register with nickserv
#2011 [16:07] <obi-wan> yes i think so, thats very close to it
#2012 [16:07] <Kealper> obi-wan: it was javaw.exe thatwas using the ram?
#2013 [16:07] <brandong> thx kealper
#2014 [16:08] <obi-wan> yes
#2015 [16:08] <Tidbit12> Will I have to uninstall java manually?
#2016 [16:08] <obi-wan> kealper thats was it
#2017 [16:08] <Kealper> java.exe and javaw.exe are java processes
#2018 [16:08] <Kealper> and javaw.exe would have been minecraft
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#2021 [16:08] <Kealper> Tidbit12: it could
#2022 [16:08] <Sigma> asd
#2023 [16:08] <obi-wan> however its a bit random, sometimes it runs it up thats high then imediately settles down, others it stays up for a minute or three anf then goes away entirely
#2024 [16:08] <Kealper> jkl
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#2026 [16:08] <Tidbit12> hmm okay i'll go do that
#2027 [16:09] <TheReddeH> how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood and was a mob in minecraft?
#2028 [16:09] <Kaito> aobut 18 trees per day
#2029 [16:09] <obi-wan> its got me baffled, but my antivirus and security seem unharried
#2030 [16:09] <Kaito> per minecraft dya
#2031 [16:09] <TheReddeH> ty
#2032 [16:10] <Kealper> obi-wan: because it is not a virus, minecraft just sucks up ram like nobody's business :/
#2033 [16:10] <obi-wan> lol
#2034 [16:10] <Sigma> anyone know the name of the texutrepack that looks like the Tron one but its a bit darker
#2035 [16:10] <Tidbit12> wtf? it says I have ajva update 13
#2036 [16:10] <obi-wan> ok
#2037 [16:10] <Tidbit12> *java
#2038 [16:10] <Tidbit12> V_V
#2039 [16:10] <Tidbit12> okay im uninstalling
#2040 [16:10] <Diablothein> Kealpybby! less than three
#2041 [16:11] <Kealper> less than slash three!
#2042 [16:11] <Diablothein> Aww...
#2043 [16:11] <Diablothein> But... but...
#2044 [16:11] <Diablothein> I thought we had something SPECIAL~!!!
#2045 [16:11] <Kealper> Sigma: texture pack? or skin?
#2046 [16:11] <Kealper> lol
#2047 [16:11] <Sigma> texutre pack
#2048 [16:11] <Kealper> never heard of a tron texture pack
#2049 [16:11] <Sigma> theres one called REZCRAFT thats tron styled
#2050 [16:12] <Sigma> kealper http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=95966
#2051 [16:12] <Kealper> woh, trippy
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#2053 [16:13] <Kealper> it's too bad that is a 64x64 pack....or i'd use it
#2054 [16:13] <TheReddeH> what wrong with 64x64
#2055 [16:13] <TheReddeH> i use that :(
#2056 [16:13] * Kealper rolls with vanilla minecraft
#2056 [16:14] <Diablothein> mmm... vanilla...
#2057 [16:14] * TheReddeH rolls with misas hd texture pack :>
#2057 [16:14] <Diablothein> delicious flavour.
#2058 [16:14] <Kaito> I love vanilla minecraft
#2059 [16:15] <Sigma> anyone know the name of the texutrepack that looks like the Tron one but its a bit darker
#2060 [16:16] <TheReddeH> turn gamma down :>
#2061 [16:16] * Tidbit12 reinstalls the correct version of java
#2061 [16:17] <Tidbit12> I hope this fixes it
#2062 [16:17] <Parabellum> i just got a server, whats the best admin mod out now?
#2063 [16:18] <Kealper> the one i made and will never release! MUAHAHAH!
#2064 [16:19] <Kealper> in all seriousness though, what do you mean by admin mod?
#2065 [16:19] <Tidbit12> :\ there are admin/mod bots?
#2066 [16:19] <xolotl> Man, rezcraft looks awesome
#2067 [16:19] <xolotl> Very dark, but awesome
#2068 [16:19] <Tidbit12> I was actually attempting to set up a server yesterday
#2069 [16:20] <Parabellum> something to held secure/run a server
#2070 [16:20] <Tidbit12> but since the servers are moving
#2071 [16:20] <Tidbit12> Can't test it <_<
#2072 [16:20] <Kealper> Parabellum: McMyAdmin?
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#2074 [16:22] <Parabellum> for a deticated server
#2075 [16:23] <Lwerflwe> hi, r there any multiplayer servers out there?
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#2077 [16:24] <Tidbit12> at the moment...not
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#2079 [16:24] <Tidbit12> Seeing how the servers are moving
#2080 [16:24] <Tidbit12> *no
#2081 [16:24] <Lwerflwe> k, thought i missed some on the official sites
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#2083 [16:25] <Lwerflwe> sad
#2084 [16:25] * Lwerflwe goes mining a bit
#2084 [16:25] <Tidbit12> wonderful I have to restart my computer <_<
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#2087 [16:27] <MrPapillon> hi
#2088 [16:27] <Kealper> hi
#2089 [16:27] <MrPapillon> yeah I know I will ask a really powerful and glorious question
#2090 [16:28] <MrPapillon> but how is going the minecraft server transition ?
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#2092 [16:28] <MrPapillon> isminecraftdown.net says the servers are down
#2093 [16:28] <MrPapillon> they were down yesterday
#2094 [16:28] <MrPapillon> oh i killed someone
#2095 [16:29] <Kealper> uhh....it's mostly moved over to the Amazon cloud server, all that is really left to do is just finish the transfer of stuff
#2096 [16:29] <MrPapillon> ah ok thanks, i was searching for some info like that
#2097 [16:29] <Kealper> and then move all textures to an Amazon S3 setup
#2098 [16:29] <MrPapillon> the forum is infinite
#2099 [16:29] <Kealper> the forum is full of dumb
#2100 [16:30] <MrPapillon> and so playing on custom servers is not possible until the whole operation is finished ?
#2101 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> s/custom //
#2102 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> FTFY
#2103 [16:30] <Kealper> well....it's not about custom servers and whatnot, but when you try to join a server, the server checks minecraft.net to see if you paid
#2104 [16:31] <lukegb> s/on .*servers/
#2105 [16:31] <lukegb> Oops *servers//
#2106 [16:31] <MrPapillon> Ok thanks kealper
#2107 [16:31] <Kealper> and with the site being moved, and down most of the time, the servers can't check if you are legit or not
#2108 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> can't legit, so U quit?
#2109 [16:32] <MrPapillon> This is very precise info, that's what i was searching for
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#2111 [16:32] <Kealper> i could get more technical, but then i'd have to kill you, since you arn't supposed to know what i know! :O
#2112 [16:32] <Kealper> lol
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#2114 [16:33] <MrPapillon> I'm a programmer, so it could interest me in many ways, but i'm enough with what you gave me
#2115 [16:34] <MrPapillon> Thank you very much though, that's very helpful to calm down the giant hord playing on my server (1 guest)
#2116 [16:34] <Kealper> xD
#2117 [16:34] <Kealper> np
#2118 [16:35] <fogwraith> Kealper: What you know is a menace to society
#2119 [16:35] * Kealper grabs his guitar
#2119 [16:35] * fogwraith shakes head @ AutoIT
#2119 [16:35] <Kealper> It! AutoIt!
#2120 [16:35] <Kealper> lol
#2121 [16:35] <fogwraith> ;)
#2122 [16:35] <Tuppelmumin> hey i have a question
#2123 [16:35] <MrPapillon> Bye Kealper, and thank you again, see you :)
#2124 [16:35] <Tuppelmumin> what is the easyest way to get rid of water in my tunnel
#2125 [16:36] <huddler> hi all, just wondering. i tried to buy minecraft 10 min ago and had a website timeout on me after filling in all my credit card details . now my question is if my payment has gone through or not. haven't recieved a mail tho
#2126 [16:36] <Kealper> Tuppelmumin: classic or beta?
#2127 [16:36] <Tuppelmumin> beta
#2128 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> MCEdit: Select tunnel -> replace water with air
#2129 [16:36] <Kealper> lol
#2130 [16:37] <Tuppelmumin> well then i have to go to my servercomputer and get the lvl files
#2131 [16:37] <NinjaKirby> Wait wat, I'm downloading new content, yet nothing is addressed on the Tumblr
#2132 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Well, it is a ninja update
#2133 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> You should know this, NinjaKirby.
#2134 [16:38] <xolotl> I bet it's just to do with their planned migration. Client thinks that there are new files but you're really just downloading the old ones from a new location (or whatever)
#2135 [16:38] <Tuppelmumin> is it any other easye way to get rid of the water?
#2136 [16:38] <NinjaKirby> ... yes! Of course, I can recognise this signature manouvure of the Ninja...
#2137 [16:38] <Sigma> how much does beta cost
#2138 [16:38] <xolotl> Sigma: 15euro
#2139 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Go into the tunnel, find out where the water is coming from, and block it off
#2140 [16:38] <Sigma> wow
#2141 [16:38] <Tuppelmumin> 14.99 euro
#2142 [16:38] <Sigma> and you gotta buy again after it comes out?
#2143 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> No
#2144 [16:38] <xolotl> Sigma: No
#2145 [16:38] <Tuppelmumin> nop
#2146 [16:38] <Sigma> notch is really raping you newbs
#2147 [16:39] <Sigma> i thought you had to buy something else when itgets released
#2148 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Sigma - Check your info again, your forum buddies are lying to you
#2149 [16:39] <Sigma> that only alpha acconts were set
#2150 [16:39] <Tuppelmumin> no
#2151 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2152 [16:39] <Sigma> i dont read the forums
#2153 [16:39] <xolotl> Sigma: No; you might have to buy expansion packs or DLC or whatever, if those ever come out
#2154 [16:39] <Sigma> i heard it on irc
#2155 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Alpha and beta get full releases
#2156 [16:39] <Sigma> in here
#2157 [16:39] <Sigma> k
#2158 [16:39] <Sigma> thanks
#2159 [16:40] <xolotl> (personally I'd still bet that beta accounts will get the currently-hypothetical expansions+DLC+whatever for free anyway, but time will tell)
#2160 [16:40] <Sigma> youd think alpha would be most rewarded
#2161 [16:40] <Sigma> since we paid full price for a game that barely worked
#2162 [16:40] <Kealper> Notch only said that they had to do that because the lawyer yelled at him
#2163 [16:40] <Sigma> but stuck to it
#2164 [16:40] <Sigma> do what kealper?
#2165 [16:40] <xolotl> Sigma: Er, no, we paid half price for a game that's been working fine for me ever since I bought it.
#2166 [16:41] <Kaito> why would the lawyer yell at him for giving something out for free?
#2167 [16:41] <Kaito> EVE online gives out free expansions twice a year
#2168 [16:41] <Sigma> oh my mistake, we bought a game that worked fine for one dude on irc
#2169 [16:41] <Kaito> then again, you pay 15 USD a month for it
#2170 [16:41] <xolotl> Kaito: A lawyer would certainly yell at him for something that says "all future updates of any sort are free"
#2171 [16:41] <Kealper> probably has something to do with promises not being kept if the buisness goes down the hole or something, idk, that's just what he said
#2172 [16:41] <Kealper> now.....
#2173 [16:41] <xolotl> Kaito: I bet there's nothing in EVE's terms-of-service which guarnatees you free updates
#2174 [16:42] * Kealper goes afk-ish for guitar shredding
#2174 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Laters Kealper
#2175 [16:42] <xolotl> er, guarantees, rather.
#2176 [16:42] <Kaito> xolotl: oh, very valid point
#2177 [16:42] * Kealper will still be watching chat sorta
#2177 [16:42] <xolotl> Could be wrong though, if you're paying a monthly fee
#2178 [16:42] <Kaito> so, he's saying, dont gaurentee it, just do it?
#2179 [16:42] <xolotl> Kaito: Right; or at least that's my impression
#2180 [16:42] <Kaito> that seems like a decent idea
#2181 [16:43] <Kaito> makes both people (MC community and Lawyer) happy
#2182 [16:43] <xolotl> At any rate, Notch *has* said explicitly that the base Minecraft game itself will remain free for Beta members
#2183 [16:43] <Kaito> *both parties
#2184 [16:43] <xolotl> The only variable being hypothetical expansions or whatever
#2185 [16:43] <xolotl> (Which is so far down the line at this point that it barely merits mention)
#2186 [16:44] <i81u812> idk at this rate it might be sooner then even he expects
#2187 [16:44] * GreyVulpine shakes
#2187 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Notch still has a loooong way to go before he even thinks about final release.
#2188 [16:44] <Parabellum> i pay a monthly fee for minecraft
#2189 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Remember the different game modes?
#2190 [16:44] <Kaito> then yo'ure Doing It Wrong(tm)
#2191 [16:44] <Kaito> :P
#2192 [16:44] <NinjaKirby> Oh god, I need assistance, I've just... scuppered myself on my Server. Is it possible for me to access Saved inventories of players that have logged onto the server? T_T
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#2194 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> creative, that cave explorer one, survival, and that other one?
#2195 [16:45] <Kaito> Zombie Hoard?
#2196 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> NinjaKirby - yes, should be in world/players/
#2197 [16:45] <i81u812> true but things have been increasingly exceeded the timeline that was once thought also
#2198 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's it Kaito
#2199 [16:45] <i81u812> exceeding..
#2200 [16:45] <NinjaKirby> Thank grey, I'll be sure to backup before getting nitty gritty...
#2201 [16:45] <NinjaKirby> *Thanks, I'm not commanding others to thank XD
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#2204 [16:47] <Parabellum> i thought notch was transferring servers yesterday did he run into a problem?
#2205 [16:48] <xolotl> Parabellum: They didn't get it done
#2206 [16:48] <Parabellum> oh
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#2208 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> "We weren't able to finish the migration today, so we're taking a pause to sleep"
#2209 [16:48] <Flalex> Hey does anyone know if i can buy minecraft with a debit card
#2210 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> If paypal will take it, yes
#2211 [16:48] <Parabellum> sleep? has he heard of crack?
#2212 [16:49] <Flalex> paypal requires god dam 8 days
#2213 [16:49] <Flalex> to put 25$ on it
#2214 [16:49] <Flalex> so long
#2215 [16:49] <NinjaKirby> Oh god, Grey, it's not plain text, lol
#2216 [16:49] <NinjaKirby> If it's just inventory, I guess I could rename it
#2217 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> NinjaKirby - Of course not
#2218 [16:49] * NinjaKirby isn't so smart at times :(
#2218 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> Let's see, I know there's a (several) programs out for editing MP inventory
#2219 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> gimme one sec
#2220 [16:49] <NinjaKirby> Oh god, going out your way for me >_<
#2221 [16:50] <xolotl> NinjaKirby: The file also contains position information, health information, etc
#2222 [16:50] <xolotl> NinjaKirby: But yeah, there are editors, I'm sure
#2223 [16:50] <NinjaKirby> That sounds prefect, if I can just rename that will be fine!
#2224 [16:50] <NinjaKirby> ... Perfect even
#2225 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> mollstam> [14:36:38] Standalone user authentication app: check. Now bed!
#2226 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> possibly fixed quickly once people wake up
#2227 [16:51] <NinjaKirby> Wait, so why does changing one Server Property demolish the inventory -_-
#2228 [16:51] <NinjaKirby> A minor rebuild, I guess
#2229 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: which property did you break?
#2230 [16:51] <NinjaKirby> Last night, I couldn't login with my Username, so I set Online-Mode to false or whatever (My inventory is now under Player)
#2231 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> say right, that's not broken, that's normal behaviour for when online-mode is false
#2232 [16:52] <Flalex> How do i pay with a debit card without paypal taking 8 days?
#2233 [16:52] <NinjaKirby> Name change is understandable, but blanking the Inventories seems... okay, now I see a correlation XD
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#2236 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#2237 [16:54] <NinjaKirby> Nani?
#2238 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: inventories are linked to players. When in Single-player, the player's name is Player
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#2241 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> https://github.com/N3X15/MineEdit
#2242 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: it's not blanking the inventory, you're just not logging into the server under your account, becuse _you have turned off logins)
#2243 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Mineedit
#2244 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> s/)/_/
#2245 [16:55] <Tidbit12> hey Kealper
#2246 [16:55] <Tidbit12> I was finally able to reinstall the correct java :D
#2247 [16:56] <NinjaKirby> Dope: Understood, just thought it had happened before, must be just a quirk I've experienced and I'm drawing wrong conclusions
#2248 [16:56] <NinjaKirby> Ah yeah, when I did an Update server side... okay... experiencing another issue, I will conquer it solo. Ridin' Solo.
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#2250 [16:57] <Tidbit12> C:\Windows\system32>java -version
#2251 [16:57] <Tidbit12> java version "1.6.0_23"
#2252 [16:57] <Tidbit12> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_23-b05)
#2253 [16:57] <Tidbit12> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode, sharing) Finally its the right version
#2254 [16:57] <Tidbit12> time to see if MC runs
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#2256 [16:58] <NinjaKirby> ¬_¬ New Server Distributed today? Or was that patch only client side?
#2257 [16:58] <NinjaKirby> !recent
#2258 [16:58] <NinjaKirby> Or something
#2259 [16:58] <NinjaKirby> !server
#2260 [16:58] <NinjaKirby> Ah ha
#2261 [16:58] <Tidbit12> Aaaan BINGO!
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#2263 [16:59] <NinjaKirby> Right... still won't work, naturally
#2264 [16:59] <Tidbit12> Thanks again Kealper, you helped out big time :3
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#2266 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> brb, updating client.
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#2269 [17:02] <NinjaKirby> Oh goodness me, now I can't login. Guess I'll keep rolling without authentication.
#2270 [17:03] <GreyBot> You can't?
#2271 [17:03] <Flalex> How can i Buy the game without a credit card? i have a debit but paypal takes 8 days and id like to buy it now
#2272 [17:03] <NinjaKirby> Worked a moment ago, now it isn't. Don't worry about it, I'm fine for now :)
#2273 [17:04] <NinjaKirby> ARGH, really, I restart my server and... I hate this, whatever change I make the Login performs the reverse situation
#2274 [17:04] <GreyBot> Flalex - Really is no other way, unless you can get somebody to gift you it.
#2275 [17:04] <GreyBot> Then pay them back
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#2277 [17:07] <NinjaKirby> Wow, my Server console just exploded
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#2279 [17:07] <NinjaKirby> Wow, this doesn't make it easy, I wonder if I can force offline Client mode?
#2280 [17:07] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: none of it got in your eyes, I hope?
#2281 [17:08] <NinjaKirby> Dope: The ASCII barely missed me!
#2282 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> Ah, ASCII wouldn't have been that bad. Some of the UTF-8 glyphs are pointy!
#2283 [17:09] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm true, glad I didn't use my real Ninja name, lots of Katakana
#2284 [17:10] <NinjaKirby> Wow, finally got in... and I'm with the right Inventory. Just hit and miss getting successful authentication it seems.
#2285 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> Would your true Ninja name not be " "?
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#2287 [17:12] <NinjaKirby> Well, it is true if I was to write or speak it... I would have to "make it" so you couldn't see another sunrise :/
#2288 [17:13] <NinjaKirby> I've never sat and watched a Sunrise
#2289 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> it stings the eyes a bit.
#2290 [17:16] <NinjaKirby> It'll most certainly sting with Binoculars
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#2292 [17:18] * Kealper is back
#2292 [17:19] <Kealper> i swear i'll be deaf before i'm 40 if i keep doing that stuff
#2293 [17:19] * NinjaKirby defends his Minecraft Base against a pack of Velociraptors with Jetpacks holding Scissors
#2293 [17:19] <NinjaKirby> "That stuff"?
#2294 [17:20] <Kealper> guitaring
#2295 [17:20] <NinjaKirby> Oh, got a big Amp and stuff?
#2296 [17:21] <Kealper> actually, i was using headphones...much more potent than speakers lol
#2297 [17:22] <NinjaKirby> Ah :P
#2298 [17:23] <Kealper> well...go from overdrive > amp > headphones plugged in to amp
#2299 [17:25] <NinjaKirby> I can't help but ask: Can you play freebird? ^^;;
#2300 [17:27] <Kealper> i've actually never learned that song, but it does not sound hard lol
#2301 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: the first eight minutes, sure
#2302 [17:28] <Kealper> xD
#2303 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> but then the twenty minute solo starts.
#2304 [17:28] <NinjaKirby> Twenty!? OH GOD, I'm missing out on a Version, a Live one? Or is that just exagguration?
#2305 [17:28] <DarkN1ght> hey guys
#2306 [17:28] <NinjaKirby> Hey again DarkN1ght ^^
#2307 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> but you could probably fake it by having a cat walk up and down the neck of the guitar whilst you strum crazily
#2308 [17:28] <Kealper> lol
#2309 [17:28] <NinjaKirby> lol Dope
#2310 [17:29] <DarkN1ght> still cant get the stupid server file to reopen :(
#2311 [17:29] <NinjaKirby> Oh lawd, I'm all out of idea's after last night, but I'm just a server newb anyway
#2312 [17:32] <NinjaKirby> I'm looking at an army of skeletons behind glass, they're crammed and stuck in shallow water hole. I'm going to enjoy this a little longer.
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#2314 [17:37] <NinjaKirby> Ceiling of Sand, great, I always feel compelled to install supports before the worst happens.
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#2316 [17:39] <i81u812> just thought id mention it because it hasn't many views yet but there is an awesome video of the death star on youtube
#2317 [17:40] <Kealper> link?
#2318 [17:40] <i81u812> looks like survival mode which is epic
#2319 [17:40] <i81u812> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5sEPoveu-o
#2320 [17:41] <i81u812> its just awesome because its massive in size
#2321 [17:42] <i81u812> still looks like a work in progress but i've been waiting to see one
#2322 [17:42] <Kealper> omg lol
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#2324 [17:44] <i81u812> I mean of course the uss enterprise is much larger but thats in creative mode
#2325 [17:44] <i81u812> or create ...
#2326 [17:47] <Roenie> do i have a plugin problem or is it still problematic to get on a server?
#2327 [17:47] <Kealper> huh?
#2328 [17:47] <fogwraith> Migration not complete
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#2330 [17:47] <Roenie> i can log in with my paid account @ client side, but after that is done, cannot join my server
#2331 [17:47] <Kealper> what fog said
#2332 [17:48] <Roenie> ok
#2333 [17:48] <Chrys> I can't even play in offline at the moment, game stays black
#2334 [17:48] <Kealper> the client and the server do not use the same thing to check for account validity
#2335 [17:48] <Kealper> Chrys: has it ever worked for you?
#2336 [17:48] <fogwraith> Was that a command for something?
#2337 [17:48] <fogwraith> !reinstall
#2338 [17:49] * fogwraith hugs AuBot
#2338 [17:49] <Kealper> lol
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#2340 [17:49] <jeansd> ello
#2341 [17:49] <Chrys> Kealper: It worked just fine yesterday yes
#2342 [17:49] <jeansd> is there a way to put my singleplayer world on my own server?
#2343 [17:50] <Kealper> jeansd: what os do you use?
#2344 [17:50] <jeansd> windows
#2345 [17:50] <Kealper> Chrys: follow the link that AuBot gave
#2346 [17:50] <jeansd> windows 7 64 bit
#2347 [17:51] <Kealper> jeansd: go to %appdata%/,minecraft/saves and get the world folder that you want to use on your server
#2348 [17:51] <Chrys> Kealper: I'll do that then
#2349 [17:51] <Kealper> jeansd: move that folder into the same directory as your minecraft_server.exe and then rename it to just "world" then start your server
#2350 [17:53] <Chrys> Kealper: There is no /AppData/ folder
#2351 [17:53] <Chrys> or even .minecraft folder
#2352 [17:53] <NinjaKirby> Oh oh! Here I go again about inventory, but I lost that when I transferred my Single Player Map to Server. Might be worth Chesting it before hand ^^;;
#2353 [17:53] <Kealper> those instructions suck then
#2354 [17:53] <Kealper> Chrys: go to %appdata%\.mincraft and delete the bin folder
#2355 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> e/min/%e/
#2356 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> ...s/%/&/
#2357 [17:54] <fogwraith> %appdata%\.minecraft *
#2358 [17:55] <Kealper> and also jeansd i just realized that i sucked at typing that, it's %appdata%\.minecraft\saves since i suck at directories like that
#2359 [17:55] <Kealper> man.....i am just all sorts of fail
#2360 [17:55] * Kealper tips the keyboard the correct way instead of all retarded-like
#2360 [17:55] <fogwraith> Been playing FoF? ;P
#2361 [17:55] <Kealper> lol
#2362 [17:56] <Chrys> delete bin folder then, will do
#2363 [17:56] <Kealper> i should move my computer out to my new handmade desk....
#2364 [17:56] <OODavo> fogwraith: FoF?
#2365 [17:57] <Kealper> sorta like guitar hero
#2366 [17:57] <fogwraith> Frets on Fire :P
#2367 [17:57] <OODavo> Ohhhhh.
#2368 [17:57] <OODavo> Of course.
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#2370 [17:58] <mib_7yhso9> Hey guys.
#2371 [17:58] <OODavo> mib_7yhso9: Hi!
#2372 [17:59] * Kealper takes down his computer for about an hour to clean it and move it
#2372 [18:00] <aetherian> lovely, college textbooks came.
#2373 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: sounds messy.
#2374 [18:00] <mib_7yhso9> i have downloded the "host a server"-file, but when i run it it just says that java isnt a valid program or something.. anyone know why?
#2375 [18:00] <aetherian> hardly, there's only two.
#2376 [18:00] <aetherian> mib, do you have the latest java
#2377 [18:01] <mib_7yhso9> ye, just checked it..
#2378 [18:01] <aetherian> is it just me, or can we still not log in >.>
#2379 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: is't not just you
#2380 [18:01] <mib_7yhso9> version 6, update 23
#2381 [18:01] <fogwraith> Ah, finished moving my stash of po... I mean, important documents... about time for some sleep
#2382 [18:01] <aetherian> crud
#2383 [18:02] <fogwraith> aetherian: random is random, works if you try a few times
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#2385 [18:03] <mib_7yhso9> also, i dont know if its a related problem, but minecraft ofthen crashes if i run it with grafics set to fancy:S
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#2387 [18:04] <Flashbang> for some reason my one world isnt showing up in game, but its in the saves folder
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#2389 [18:07] <mib_7yhso9> sooo.. anyone know how i can fix it so i can host a LAN server? reinstalled java just to be sure..
#2390 [18:08] <Flashbang> mib, it seems nobody here is active atm
#2391 [18:08] <Flashbang> so, so much for a help channel -_-
#2392 [18:09] <mib_7yhso9> got a response a few mins ago.. :P
#2393 [18:09] <Flashbang> well can i ask you something? lol
#2394 [18:09] <Flashbang> ever have a problem with a world randomly not showing up?
#2395 [18:09] <mib_7yhso9> sure, i doubt i know the answer:P
#2396 [18:10] <mib_7yhso9> emm.. you mean when you log in to start the game?
#2397 [18:10] <Flashbang> yes, in SSP
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#2399 [18:10] <Flashbang> the world exists in the saves folder
#2400 [18:11] <Flashbang> but doesnt show up in game
#2401 [18:11] <mib_7yhso9> nah, havent experienced that yet..
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#2404 [18:21] <Uni553> is the update today related to the server switch
#2405 [18:21] <Uni553> because i didnt see a change log
#2406 [18:21] <Uni553> and yet my game updated
#2407 [18:21] <Flashbang> uni, nobody is here -_-
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#2409 [18:22] <Uni553> oh
#2410 [18:22] <Uni553> oh well
#2411 [18:22] <Secondsoul> can anyone help me with my corrupt save file?
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#2413 [18:24] <Secondsoul> It loads in MCedit and when I downgrade but not on 1.2_01 minecraft
#2414 [18:24] <Flashbang> second
#2415 [18:25] <Flashbang> as i said to people before
#2416 [18:25] <Flashbang> nobody is here -_-
#2417 [18:25] <Secondsoul> I just got here :p will you help me? (:
#2418 [18:27] <Flashbang> i dont know anything about that XD
#2419 [18:27] <Flashbang> im having a problem with a save not showing up
#2420 [18:28] <Uni553> myself i only have 1 save
#2421 [18:28] <Uni553> usually anytime i start a new one i get rid of the old one
#2422 [18:28] <Uni553> heh
#2423 [18:29] <Secondsoul> im having a save problem too :)
#2424 [18:30] <Flashbang> lemme try the backup of the data that minecraft makes
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#2427 [18:44] <NinjaKirby> Aiya! It kinda *looks* like spiders can get through a 1x1 hole now, but he didn't... actually get through XD
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#2429 [18:45] <NinjaKirby> Now they can climb walls, this Dungeon is just spazzing out completely
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#2432 [18:45] <SatoyS> hi
#2433 [18:46] <NinjaKirby> Lo there
#2434 [18:46] <SatoyS> i know that they are changing the server, but what i want to ask is: was anybody recently able to connect with the minecraft.exe file?
#2435 [18:47] <zz> Keep retrying
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#2437 [18:47] <SatoyS> that is what i do since 3 days
#2438 [18:47] <NinjaKirby> lol! These spiders suddenly ascended my glass wall, and now are like... magnetised in a bunch, to the roof.
#2439 [18:48] <SatoyS> it wouldn't be that annoying if i could connect once
#2440 [18:49] <NinjaKirby> To the login server? I had to fight with it a bit earlier, about 6-7 time-outs before I got authenticated
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#2442 [18:50] <SatoyS> i don't know how often i tried
#2443 [18:51] <SatoyS> but WAY more than 6-7 times
#2444 [18:51] <SatoyS> did you just buy the game?
#2445 [18:51] <zz> Keep retrying
#2446 [18:51] <zz> You'll get in eventually
#2447 [18:51] <SatoyS> i am wondering if there is a problem with new "owners"
#2448 [18:52] <SatoyS> it's not only that it says can't connect to minecraft.net
#2449 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> SatoyS: "new owners"?
#2450 [18:53] <SatoyS> fatal error occurs (2): null
#2451 [18:53] <Uni553> so wierd how so many farm animals are also spawwning at night outside my base sounds like a fucking massacre now
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#2454 [18:53] <Uni553> with the night mobs and the day mobs all together
#2455 [18:54] <SatoyS> hmm, mybe owner is the wrong word --> what i mean is people who bought the game recently (--> they own it now?)
#2456 [18:54] <OODavo> Buyers?
#2457 [18:54] <OODavo> Consumers?
#2458 [18:54] <OODavo> Capitalists?
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#2461 [18:55] <SatoyS> ok, these words fit perhaps better ;)
#2462 [18:55] <Uni553> you know you can still play offline single player as long as you downloaded it once
#2463 [18:55] <Uni553> not a big deal
#2464 [18:55] <Uni553> :)
#2465 [18:55] <SatoyS> that's the point
#2466 [18:56] <SatoyS> i was never able to login
#2467 [18:56] <SatoyS> so i can't even play offline
#2468 [18:56] <Uni553> oh you've NEVER logged in before
#2469 [18:56] <Uni553> ?
#2470 [18:56] <zz> Keep retrying
#2471 [18:56] <zz> You'll get in eventually
#2472 [18:56] <Uni553> yeah itll go
#2473 [18:56] <Kealper[OFF]> rawr
#2474 [18:57] <kealper> fail...
#2475 [18:57] <Kealper> anywho
#2476 [19:00] <SatoyS> but nobody knows what it means when it says: failed to launch, fatal error occured (2): null?
#2477 [19:01] <Kealper> what's some context for said error?
#2478 [19:02] <SatoyS> i open the file minecraft.exe
#2479 [19:02] <SatoyS> enter username and password, try to connect
#2480 [19:02] <SatoyS> and there it is
#2481 [19:02] <SatoyS> can't even go back or something, i ha to close the game
#2482 [19:02] <SatoyS> hve
#2483 [19:02] <SatoyS> have
#2484 [19:03] <Kealper> hmm...probably some error caused from login failing from the website sucking atm :/
#2485 [19:04] <SatoyS> i would be so happy if it connects just once
#2486 [19:05] <SatoyS> so i just can make the mobs pay for all this frustration :P
#2487 [19:06] <Uni553> lol mobs always killing themselves in my cacti area
#2488 [19:10] <NinjaKirby> Cacti Farm? :P
#2489 [19:10] <Kealper> cacti are quite niec for defending areas lol
#2490 [19:10] <Kealper> nice*
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#2496 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> Great, another dark hallway, and lots of Zombie noise, fantastic.
#2497 [19:15] <Kealper> kill em with fire!
#2498 [19:15] <aetherian> heh
#2499 [19:15] <aetherian> you mean flaming arrows?
#2500 [19:15] <Pinksteady> Those frisky zombies
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#2502 [19:18] <Diablothein> Kealper, firewall.
#2503 [19:18] <Diablothein> cwatididhar?
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#2505 [19:20] <Kealper> lol
#2506 [19:21] <Rait> Is there a way to help make a server run faster?
#2507 [19:21] <Kealper> depends, what about it is slow?
#2508 [19:21] <Rait> i keep getting the [Warning] thing in the GUI
#2509 [19:22] <Kealper> oh...how much are you getting it? like once every few sec? or only when someone logs in, logs out, or when you start the server?
#2510 [19:23] <Rait> i've gotten it about 10 time running about 10-15 blocks away from mobs.
#2511 [19:24] <Kealper> O.o
#2512 [19:24] <Kealper> are you hosting off your own computer (that you play the game on) or are you hosting it off it's own machine?
#2513 [19:24] <Rait> same computer im playing on.
#2514 [19:25] <Kealper> what are the specs of your computer? (cpu, ram, etc)
#2515 [19:25] <Rait> Vista, AMD turion x2 dual-core MObile RM-70 2.00 GHz, 3bg ram.
#2516 [19:25] <Rait> gb*
#2517 [19:26] <Kealper> ehh....a laptop....
#2518 [19:26] <Rait> yeah. all i have now.
#2519 [19:26] <NinjaKirby> :3
#2520 [19:26] <Kealper> there is really no way to make it faster then, it's a half way decent laptop, but not for doing both a server and a client :/
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#2522 [19:27] <Rait> well usually it works fine, just a bit ago it was spamming the gui.
#2523 [19:27] <Kealper> oh
#2524 [19:27] <Kealper> yeah if it still runs fine, ignore the warning
#2525 [19:28] <Kealper> after all, warnings don't mean anything, it's the errors that you want to look out for :P
#2526 [19:28] <Rait> yeah, but after about 5 come in a row, i get a lag spike.
#2527 [19:28] <Kealper> (my motto when compiling software)
#2528 [19:30] <Rait> Does setting the priorty of the gui do anything?
#2529 [19:30] <Kealper> it might
#2530 [19:30] <Kealper> that will probably make your client lag if the server needs extra cpu time or something though
#2531 [19:30] <Kealper> it'll lag less for other players though
#2532 [19:30] <Diablothein> Rait, what other background programs are you running?
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#2534 [19:31] <Rait> nothing really, just my client, the server and mIRC.
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#2536 [19:31] <Diablothein> No instant messengers? Internet browsers?
#2537 [19:31] <Rait> nope.
#2538 [19:32] <Rait> I'm try a reboot. I'll brb.
#2539 [19:32] <Diablothein> Any Google services?
#2540 [19:32] <Rait> just googletoolbar notifier, but when i try to end it it says..
#2541 [19:32] <Rait> operation can't be completed.
#2542 [19:33] <Rait> when i have full administration
#2543 [19:33] <Ackmey> Guys anyone know of a reason for a 4-clock to be burning out? I thought I had the problem isolated yesterday as my fps being too high at like 500, and the problem stopped when I capped fps, but now it started again on a different map (works fine on old map)
#2544 [19:34] <Diablothein> Rait, try shutting it down from task manager.
#2545 [19:34] <Rait> Have tried.
#2546 [19:34] <Diablothein> Ackmey, post on forums.
#2547 [19:34] <Rait> oh, now it ended.
#2548 [19:35] <Ackmey> alright
#2549 [19:35] <Rait> Uhm.. should i have like 12 svchosts?
#2550 [19:35] <Rait> make that 14.
#2551 [19:35] <Diablothein> o.o
#2552 [19:35] <Diablothein> Kealper
#2553 [19:35] <Ackmey> Rait that's normal, you shouldn't have so many 0.o
#2554 [19:35] <Ackmey> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-svchostexe-and-why-is-it-running/
#2555 [19:36] <Kealper> yessir?
#2556 [19:36] <Rait> wtf. i have like triple everything now in my task manager..?
#2557 [19:36] <Rait> Ima reboot, brb.
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#2559 [19:37] <Diablothein> Rait's problem: Vista.
#2560 [19:37] <fatalfall> lol that Autobot sure is useful
#2561 [19:37] <fatalfall> answered my question as soon as I joined.
#2562 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> :)
#2563 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> that's kinda the idea
#2564 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> thanks for reading /join notices :)
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#2566 [19:39] <NinjaKirby> I guess Spiders can't be farmed using the Lava/Ladder method? As they are only one block tall
#2567 [19:39] <SatoyS> after 50 attempt i am just desperate...
#2568 [19:40] <SatoyS> in my opinion for new players it's impossible to get the game
#2569 [19:40] <NinjaKirby> Wait actually, I could abuse there two block width, and build a seperate water duct, never mind
#2570 [19:41] <NinjaKirby> SatoyS, I haven't seen other new buyers come in here, with the extent of the problems you are suffering :/ I don't day mass attention, but it appears to me it's a unique issue.
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#2572 [19:41] <NinjaKirby> *Pay mass attention
#2573 [19:41] <SatoyS> :(
#2574 [19:41] <NinjaKirby> Hang in there, once business returns to usual at Majong, it'll come together ^^
#2575 [19:42] <xolotl> SatoyS: The server is having issues today, just wait it out and it should be fine
#2576 [19:42] <NinjaKirby> Xolotl: It's been a permanent problem
#2577 [19:42] <xolotl> Oh
#2578 [19:42] <NinjaKirby> Even before the server issues, apparently
#2579 [19:42] <xolotl> Well, the server's still having issues today
#2580 [19:42] * xolotl stands by the first half of my statemetn
#2580 [19:42] <xolotl> er, statement.
#2581 [19:42] <NinjaKirby> Bananas
#2582 [19:42] <xolotl> heh
#2583 [19:42] <NinjaKirby> SatoyS, would a RAR of all the game files assist in this instance at all?
#2584 [19:43] <NinjaKirby> If it's an issue of logging in and downloading, or whatever
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#2586 [19:43] <SatoyS> i have only the minecraft.exe file
#2587 [19:44] <SatoyS> both of them don't work
#2588 [19:44] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, removing the "sensitive" info, I could send you my .minecraft folder?
#2589 [19:44] <SatoyS> i would try everything
#2590 [19:44] <NinjaKirby> Would = Have? ^^;;
#2591 [19:45] <SatoyS> almost
#2592 [19:45] <SatoyS> but there isn't much you can do
#2593 [19:46] <SatoyS> with only 2 exe files
#2594 [19:46] <NinjaKirby> O_O
#2595 [19:46] <NinjaKirby> Make them battle each other
#2596 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: redistributing Minecraft is forbidden.
#2597 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> It says so right on the menu: "No not distribute."
#2598 [19:46] <NinjaKirby> Dope: Warning taken onboard T_T
#2599 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> :s/No/Do/
#2600 [19:46] <Rait> how do you set your nick again?
#2601 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> "/nick"
#2602 [19:47] <Rait> i just did that, didn't work. D:
#2603 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> your nick is already 'Rait'.
#2604 [19:48] <Rait> I can't change it?
#2605 [19:48] <SatoyS> hmm, everybody is able to play the game, except for me
#2606 [19:48] <SatoyS> it seems like: I AM SOMETHING SPECIAL :P
#2607 [19:49] <NinjaKirby> :/
#2608 [19:49] <SatoyS> even creepers are less annoying... :P
#2609 [19:52] <SatoyS> so all i can do is just to wait again...
#2610 [19:52] <NinjaKirby> Look on the bright side, you can enjoy your hobbies for at least another 24 hours, before Minecraft becomes your Real Life timesink
#2611 [19:53] <NinjaKirby> I have to be up in 7 hours, and I'm still playing, and I plan to finish this Dungeon Farm before bed XD
#2612 [19:54] <SatoyS> the problem is, i already know minecraft
#2613 [19:54] <NinjaKirby> O_O No turning back
#2614 [19:54] <SatoyS> so i am already addicted because of a friend
#2615 [19:54] <SatoyS> and i don't think it will run in 24h hours
#2616 [19:55] <SatoyS> i am having that trouble since 3 days
#2617 [19:55] <NinjaKirby> Derp
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#2619 [19:56] <SatoyS> 1 login would be enough
#2620 [19:56] <SatoyS> to play at least offline
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#2622 [20:00] <i81u812> damnit I shouldnt have logged out
#2623 [20:00] <i81u812> nvm it let me back in...
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#2625 [20:06] <Jared> !check
#2626 [20:06] <Jared> servers still not workin?
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#2628 [20:09] <Jared> hello?
#2629 [20:09] <Jared> noone can join my server
#2630 [20:09] <Jared> in cludeing me
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#2633 [20:11] <Jared> ...
#2634 [20:11] <Jared> noone is there?
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#2636 [20:13] <Lorax> Jared: if minecraft.net is down, nobody can log in
#2637 [20:13] <MrDodo1234> 79df:90d1::79df:90d1 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :it that the same reason that the credit card transaction won't work?
#2638 [20:15] <SatoyS> i wouldn't buy the game now
#2639 [20:16] <SatoyS> i did it while server troubles 3 days ago
#2640 [20:16] <SatoyS> payment failed once, worked on the second time
#2641 [20:17] <SatoyS> got 3 mails that it worked (i don't know how often i have to pay for the game)
#2642 [20:17] <SatoyS> and i still can't connect...
#2643 [20:18] <lemon-rev> dude you read the notch site did you not
#2644 [20:18] <Kealper> SatoyS: it says you paid, we already checked that :/
#2645 [20:18] <Kealper> are you continually getting that error with the null thing?
#2646 [20:18] <Kealper> like....100% of the tmie?
#2647 [20:18] <Kealper> time*
#2648 [20:18] <SatoyS> nope
#2649 [20:18] <SatoyS> it's random
#2650 [20:18] <Kealper> you just can't connect?
#2651 [20:18] <SatoyS> sometimes i just can't connect
#2652 [20:19] <Kealper> try playing in the browser (assuming you can get the site to load)
#2653 [20:20] <SatoyS> the site loads more than 2 days ago
#2654 [20:21] <SatoyS> but that is for sure just the server
#2655 [20:22] <SatoyS> i tried to play in the browser the first time actually
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#2657 [20:22] <Solvius> hi GreyVulpine they miss you :)
#2658 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Alright... I'm back
#2659 [20:22] <SatoyS> and it doens't work...
#2660 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Had to update my mIRC, was still using an old version that was vulnerable to DCC exploits
#2661 [20:23] <Kealper> O
#2662 [20:23] <Kealper> :O
#2663 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, so sue me, I'm lazy
#2664 [20:23] <Solvius> newest now ?
#2665 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#2666 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> And I hate it
#2667 [20:23] <Kealper> SatoyS: what do you mean does not work? what doesn't it do?
#2668 [20:23] <Solvius> grin, who doesnt :0
#2669 [20:23] <SatoyS> fatal error occured (2):null...
#2670 [20:24] <SatoyS> maybe a java problem?
#2671 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin the entire problem?
#2672 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> at www.pastebin.com
#2673 [20:24] <SatoyS> there isn't more than that
#2674 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> There.. isn't?
#2675 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> You're joking
#2676 [20:24] <SatoyS> as in the exe file
#2677 [20:24] <SatoyS> login screen
#2678 [20:25] <SatoyS> you click
#2679 [20:25] <SatoyS> it just changes to failed to launch, fatal error occured (2): null
#2680 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> That's not a lot to go on..
#2681 [20:26] <SatoyS> i try to reinstall java
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#2683 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> !seen satoys
#2684 [20:36] <crickets> I last saw satoys (Mibbit@77-58-129-60.dclient.hispeed.ch) 6mins 7secs ago, quitting from IRC, saying: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client
#2685 [20:39] <Solvius> well I am off to bed, good luck GreyVulpine with the new mIRC :)
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#2687 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Blarg
#2688 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> I hate this font that mIRC now uses. Can't find where to change it
#2689 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Oh, duh, view -> font
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#2692 [20:47] <Rait> What are decent specs on a computer to run a server?
#2693 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how many you want to host at once
#2694 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> If it's a dedicated, or a VPS, or a home machine that you'll be running other applications at the same time
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#2696 [20:49] <Rait> from a home machine, with barely any apps, just the server going
#2697 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> There is no set number, it all depends on your needs, the environment you're going to be running it in, and how many people you want to host for.
#2698 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> I'd recommend nothing less than a gig of ram free, a modern CPU of the latter part of this decade, and a decent upstream bandwidth.
#2699 [20:51] <Rait> For the upstream, what's a decent number for that?
#2700 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Again, depends on entirely your needs.
#2701 [20:51] <Rait> about 3-4 people
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#2703 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Figure about 100-150 kB/s per person.
#2704 [20:52] <MrDodo1234> 79df:90d1::79df:90d1 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :why cant i buy with a credit card D:
#2705 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, why can't you?
#2706 [20:53] <MrDodo1234> 79df:90d1::79df:90d1 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :well im doin everythin right
#2707 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> The website's been having problems for the past few days, that might be the cause.
#2708 [20:53] <MrDodo1234> 79df:90d1::79df:90d1 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :hm..
#2709 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any sort of error?
#2710 [20:53] <Rait> Isn't speedtest.net the place to test your download/upload rates?
#2711 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2712 [20:53] <MrDodo1234> 79df:90d1::79df:90d1 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :authentication failed or somethin like that..
#2713 [20:54] <Rait> oh wow.. 1.3 mb for d/l..
#2714 [20:54] <MrDodo1234> 79df:90d1::79df:90d1 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :and some random number
#2715 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Recheck your credit card number and security code on back
#2716 [20:54] <MrDodo1234> 79df:90d1::79df:90d1 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :already did that
#2717 [20:54] <i81u812> my computer is from the former part of the previous decade and it seems fine most anything after 02 should run ok with broadband....
#2718 [20:55] <i81u812> I still cant wait to upgrade to a quadcore or larger though
#2719 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> I just say the latter part of this decade, because some people fancy the notion of running servers on their laptops
#2720 [20:55] * GreyVulpine is innocent, he swears
#2720 [20:56] <i81u812> well yeah on a laptop
#2721 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> But I'm not the only one
#2722 [20:56] <i81u812> idk pc ftw
#2723 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> laptop == pc
#2724 [20:56] <MrDodo1234> 79df:90d1::79df:90d1 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :lawl
#2725 [20:56] <i81u812> my phone is my laptop currently
#2726 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> That's what we call a "mobile device"
#2727 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Not a laptop
#2728 [20:57] <i81u812> I guess .... it goes on the top of my lap ....
#2729 [20:57] <i81u812> lol
#2730 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, a laptop should never be placed on one's lap, if one desires children down the line
#2731 [20:57] <i81u812> it does most anything I could need it to do away from my desktop
#2732 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> lemme rephrase, a "modern" laptop...
#2733 [20:58] <i81u812> indeed .. im not good with anything mobile so I opted to be safe I already tear up everything I have
#2734 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#2735 [20:59] <i81u812> my blackberry was atrocious
#2736 [20:59] <i81u812> now my droid looks ten years old
#2737 [20:59] <Rait> i know this is off-topic regarding minecraft, but what's a good internet provider? like qwest, charter?
#2738 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> All depends on what's available in your area
#2739 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Not all ISPs are available everywhere
#2740 [21:00] <i81u812> people here are forced to use comcast...
#2741 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Same
#2742 [21:00] <i81u812> pretty much
#2743 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> I'd get fios if it was available
#2744 [21:00] <i81u812> but I dont mind I get great speeds
#2745 [21:00] <Rait> yeah, that i relised, im currently with qwest for 5 megs, but everytime i test it at speedtest.net, it's never over 3mb
#2746 [21:00] <Rait> realised*
#2747 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> That happens
#2748 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> over-selling of the region, congestion in your neighborhood..
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#2750 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> people torrenting/downloading...
#2751 [21:01] <Rait> Never heard of Fios?
#2752 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> All of these can factor into what you actually get
#2753 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> fiber to the house
#2754 [21:01] <nipper> Wish mc would fix there login/auth servers
#2755 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> DSL - over phone line, cable - over coax, fios, over fiber
#2756 [21:01] <i81u812> yeah I live kinda in a "hood" so im currently hoging the bandwidth
#2757 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> nipper - They are
#2758 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> They're moving the auth stuff to a seperate server, the skins to a seperate server.
#2759 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> And the website has its own
#2760 [21:02] <nipper> I still can't seem to login and my servers auth takes a bit to auth.
#2761 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> They're not finished yet
#2762 [21:02] <nipper> They have plans for it but its not fixed just yet,.
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#2766 [21:04] <satoys1> hi
#2767 [21:04] <satoys1> i am back
#2768 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2769 [21:04] <satoys1> i found out, if i try to start minecart.exe on my friends computer
#2770 [21:05] <satoys1> i can connect
#2771 [21:05] <i81u812> that was still so epic earlier about my login screen.. I think it was a coincidence
#2772 [21:06] <satoys1> but on my laptop, still i cant login
#2773 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> satoys - Tried deleting /.minecraft ?
#2774 [21:06] <satoys1> well
#2775 [21:06] <satoys1> i bought it 3 games ago
#2776 [21:06] <satoys1> and was never able to connect
#2777 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> 3 games ago?
#2778 [21:07] <satoys1> sorry
#2779 [21:07] <satoys1> days
#2780 [21:07] <satoys1> so i have only the minecraft.exe file
#2781 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Did you ever pirate minecraft before this?
#2782 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> No offense intended by that question.
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#2784 [21:15] <i81u812> well then
#2785 [21:16] <i81u812> snow sucks here on the lake shore....
#2786 [21:16] <Rait> o-o there's chainmail armor?
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#2789 [21:19] <i81u812> more like armor
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#2793 [21:20] <jboyce69> So I need a little bit of help, when I try to access my friends multiplayer server, It loads somewhat then errors - Internal client error: Java.net.connectException: Connection timed out: connect
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#2796 [21:23] <jboyce69> helpful thanks!
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#2800 [21:26] <nipper> Can someone tell me what server setting offline mode means? Like what does it do?
#2801 [21:26] <satoys1> hmm
#2802 [21:27] <nipper> i mean online-mode
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#2804 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> bah
#2805 [21:30] <aetherian> oh it's so annoying when an antivir thinks something is a virus. when it isn't.
#2806 [21:30] * aetherian is away: Meeting...
#2806 [21:31] <lemon-rev> hahahhaah i got minecraft.net to load lol
#2807 [21:34] <satoys1> anyone here?
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#2809 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> 'lo?
#2810 [21:37] <satoys> hey
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#2812 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, comp crashed
#2813 [21:38] <satoys> ok
#2814 [21:41] <lemon-rev> wired, site is now working, but no link from minecraft.exe
#2815 [21:44] <SkiingPenguins> they are going to be using different servers
#2816 [21:45] <lemon-rev> shit, finally lol, minecraft finally logged in, but for how long lol
#2817 [21:45] <lemon-rev> yea i know whats up there skiing but thanks for responce :)
#2818 [21:48] <i81u812> so Im seeing chunck errors all over now.... black streaks down the wassl next to torches etc
#2819 [21:48] <i81u812> chunk
#2820 [21:48] <i81u812> damnit
#2821 [21:48] <i81u812> walls
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#2824 [21:49] <lemon-rev> might have to fix your load
#2825 [21:50] <i81u812> ....
#2826 [21:50] <i81u812> like reload the map?
#2827 [21:50] <lemon-rev> hm,
#2828 [21:50] <lemon-rev> no
#2829 [21:50] <i81u812> ok
#2830 [21:50] <lemon-rev> i meant like back up your .bin folder and redownload it,
#2831 [21:51] <i81u812> ok well is there a prog to back it up or do you have a dir for it?
#2832 [21:51] <i81u812> and I assume .bin is the maps?
#2833 [21:51] <lemon-rev> do you have something like winzip or winrar
#2834 [21:51] <i81u812> of course
#2835 [21:52] <lemon-rev> i ment like your bin under mydocuments / your computer name / applications / .minecraft / bin folder
#2836 [21:52] <i81u812> what purpose does the .bin have?
#2837 [21:52] <lemon-rev> well then you can select the folder right clicking it, and saying add to rar and that will back up the folder or at least rar it up for you
#2838 [21:52] <lemon-rev> most of game
#2839 [21:52] <lemon-rev> lol
#2840 [21:53] <i81u812> is there a way to back up the maps, err well I know there is but how do i do it now that I finally need to
#2841 [21:54] <lemon-rev> same way , it depends on where you started the world ie tab out of the 5 i think different worlds you can have would be labled world 1 - world 5
#2842 [21:54] <lemon-rev> in your .minecraft directory
#2843 [21:54] <OODavo> i81u812: Maps are in .minecraft/saves
#2844 [21:55] <lemon-rev> you can do the same thing yes
#2845 [21:55] <OODavo> Just copy the dirs for those to back utpem hup.
#2846 [21:55] <OODavo> d2withem up
#2847 [21:55] <lemon-rev> well if you want to back them up where ever you want sure
#2848 [21:59] <i81u812> so easy enough then just copy them....
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#2850 [22:00] <lemon-rev> sounds like you got it
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#2852 [22:01] <i81u812> I hate it when creepers wont put out....
#2853 [22:02] <Kealper> lol
#2854 [22:03] <Jared> can anyone tell me why i cant connect to my own server"?
#2855 [22:03] <lemon-rev> are you on line of offline
#2856 [22:03] <Lorax> Jared: what error are you getting?
#2857 [22:03] <Jared> im online
#2858 [22:03] <Diablothein> Jared, connect to 127.0.0.1
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#2860 [22:03] <Jared> i have
#2861 [22:03] <Jared> i use local host
#2862 [22:04] <mib_6kk0i5> can some1 help?
#2863 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> With?
#2864 [22:05] <mib_6kk0i5> i just bought minecraft, and the internet stopped
#2865 [22:05] <mib_6kk0i5> idk if i got it
#2866 [22:05] <lemon-rev> hm
#2867 [22:05] <mib_6kk0i5> were do u download it?
#2868 [22:05] <lemon-rev> check your email
#2869 [22:05] <lemon-rev> from minecraft.net
#2870 [22:05] <Kealper> !client
#2871 [22:06] <Jared> !client
#2872 [22:06] <Jared> cool
#2873 [22:06] <Jared> !check
#2874 [22:06] <Jared> Boom
#2875 [22:06] <Kealper> lol
#2876 [22:06] <mib_6kk0i5> nope none
#2877 [22:06] <Kealper> mib_6kk0i5: what username did you use?
#2878 [22:07] <Jared> raahhhh i cant connect to my own server
#2879 [22:07] <Jared> RAGGHHHHH
#2880 [22:07] <mib_6kk0i5> y
#2881 [22:07] <Kealper> Jared: open server.properties and set online-mode to false
#2882 [22:07] <Jared> ok
#2883 [22:07] <Kealper> restart the server, you should be able to connect them
#2884 [22:07] <Kealper> then
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#2886 [22:08] <Azu> redstone question!
#2887 [22:08] <Kealper> possible redstone answer!
#2888 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> uh-oh
#2889 [22:08] <lemon-rev> ?
#2890 [22:09] <Azu> using a button twice in a combination lock combination
#2891 [22:09] <Azu> like, say, 1 2 6 2 1
#2892 [22:09] <Azu> how would I go about doing this
#2893 [22:10] <mib_6kk0i5> when do u think the migration will be over?
#2894 [22:10] <Kealper> Azu: how much redstone stuff do you know?
#2895 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_6kk0i5 - Tomorrow hopefully
#2896 [22:10] <Azu> I can build a RSNOR
#2897 [22:10] <Azu> ('an'?)
#2898 [22:10] <Kealper> mib_6kk0i5: no idea, it will be done when it is done, but if i had to guess, i'd say anothe rday
#2899 [22:10] <Kealper> another day*
#2900 [22:10] <Azu> and inverters
#2901 [22:10] <mib_6kk0i5> ok then i will try to buy again 2morrow
#2902 [22:10] <mib_6kk0i5> thx for help
#2903 [22:11] <Kealper> Azu: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_circuits
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#2905 [22:12] <Azu> I can't stand those diagrams
#2906 [22:12] <Azu> ridiculous color scheme
#2907 [22:13] <OODavo> OB
#2908 [22:13] <OODavo> dd
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#2910 [22:13] <Kealper> Azu: those are actually quite easy to read
#2911 [22:13] <Kealper> and a combination lock is super complicated, and will take quite a bit of space
#2912 [22:14] <Azu> I basically understand the theory behind the basic combination lock structure
#2913 [22:14] <Azu> and have read that wiki page before
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#2915 [22:15] <Azu> it's the use of a button a second time that's bugging me
#2916 [22:16] <Kealper> i have not actually made a combination lock before, so i can't be of much help with this :/
#2917 [22:16] <Kealper> i know the idea behind it, but i have never put it into practice before :/
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#2921 [22:28] <nipper> Man I wish the auth servers where up and working. Pain trying to get in to my own server.
#2922 [22:28] <Kealper> yeah :/
#2923 [22:29] <nipper> Takes 20+ trys per person. On top of that it lags the every a bit when people are trying to connect.
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#2927 [22:32] <Exatora> does anyone know how to fix the seaming issues that java sometimes has?
#2928 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope
#2929 [22:33] <Exatora> oh, well. Is it something that everyone experiences then?
#2930 [22:34] <xolotl> Seaming issues?
#2931 [22:34] <xolotl> (apparently *I* haven't, though I'm hardly statistically significant)
#2932 [22:34] <TheBix> hey guys
#2933 [22:34] <TheBix> in an unrelated note: if I can't access an IPV6 website is it most likely to be because of my piece o shit chinese router?
#2934 [22:34] <Exatora> like when you are in a save and little dots appear around the sides of the blocks
#2935 [22:35] <xolotl> Oh, I suppose I have seen that, yeah
#2936 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Exatora - Yeah, we see it all the time
#2937 [22:36] <Exatora> I didn't know if there was something wrong with my computer. I tried looking the problem up, but I wasn't able to find much
#2938 [22:36] <Exatora> thanks
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#2940 [22:40] <odielag> Hi all. Question: My server crashed and I'm trying to figure out the source and solution of the crash. In this link is a paste to the log file of the minecraft server. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=147137
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#2943 [22:41] <Kealper> odielag: does it do that a lot?
#2944 [22:44] <odielag> no, first time in the last few days Kealper
#2945 [22:45] <Kealper> odielag: i would not worry about it then, it was probably just a fluke where the server did not correctly clean up some resources before trying to do stuff
#2946 [22:46] <Kealper> if it happens frequently, then i'd say you should really look into it
#2947 [22:46] <odielag> ya. My server is pretty heavy duty with 12gb of ram, a core i7, two hard drives in raid 1... felt bad when it happened.
#2948 [22:47] <cfdpipeman> So where do you get the nightly builds? It says they are available to registered players.
#2949 [22:47] <Kealper> you could send that crash info to daniel@mojang.com though, it could be due to a lack of error handling on that specific spot, and that might be useful to point it out, so they can add some next time
#2950 [22:47] <Kealper> cfdpipeman: can't get em yet, they will start those in a few weeks
#2951 [22:47] <odielag> others seem to have had the same problem:
#2952 [22:47] <odielag> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/_severe_unexpected_exception_smp_vanilla_java_lang_arrayindexoutofboundsexception_1?
#2953 [22:48] <AG_Elias> odielag: That happens every so often. Make sure you are allocating enough heap to the young generation and keep on trucking.
#2954 [22:48] <cfdpipeman> ok, thanks. Any idea of how we will be able to d/l them?
#2955 [22:48] <Kealper> odielag: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException just means that it tried to access an array that either was not actually an array, or was smaller than the program thought
#2956 [22:49] <zz> Which means someone programmed something badly
#2957 [22:49] <odielag> wha wha what? (heap to the young generation). I'm novice at linux/java/minecraft. When it happened the minecraft process was using 5-6gb/8gb (devoted to the process / 12gb (system memory)
#2958 [22:49] <Kealper> odielag: long story short, something was not done right, so give that error stuff to daniel@mojang.com and Mojang will get around to fixing that eventually
#2959 [22:50] <odielag> ok. will do
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#2970 [23:36] <peachykeen> anyone know if it is possible to host minecraft on XP Pro, SP3?
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#2973 [23:39] <Diablothein> peachykeen, yes
#2974 [23:40] <peachykeen> I'm running into an "end of stream" error, forum threads suggested it was related to XP.
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#2976 [23:40] <peachykeen> Took my router out of the equation, didn't help.
#2977 [23:41] <Diablothein> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=39777#p682258
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#2979 [23:42] <Mathuin> Where can I go to learn more about Minecraft world generators? I want to generate worlds based on SRTMv3 data, at least altitude if not land use as well.
#2980 [23:42] <peachykeen> Hm, not running an Atheros Card, but it might be related. Checking that.
#2981 [23:43] <Diablothein> Mathuin, What do you mean?
#2982 [23:44] <Mathuin> Can someone who doesn't work for Mojang write a Minecraft world generator, or is the important information unavailable?
#2983 [23:44] <peachykeen> Aren't there alternate servers with world generation routines?
#2984 [23:44] <Mathuin> Dunno, that's why I'm asking here. :-)
#2985 [23:45] <peachykeen> I was poking at one to see if it helped, it appeared to use libNoise to generate parts of the world. Since the chunk format is available, IIRC, you should be able to.
#2986 [23:45] <Diablothein> We don't do support for third party software.
#2987 [23:45] <Mathuin> The space shuttle Endeavour flew an 11-day mission where they mapped nearly the entire surface of the planet down to the 30-meter level.
#2988 [23:46] <Mathuin> It would be awesome to build a world based on say the New York City area, or maybe Montana or something.
#2989 [23:46] <Mathuin> While I understand you don't support third-party software, have third parties written world generators?
#2990 [23:46] <Diablothein> They have.
#2991 [23:46] <Mathuin> With the understanding that the chunk format could change at any time, et cetera.
#2992 [23:47] <Mathuin> Is there an IRC channel where folks discuss this sort of thing?
#2993 [23:47] <Diablothein> No clue.
#2994 [23:47] <peachykeen> Make one. :p
#2995 [23:47] <Mathuin> Where might I find out? Minecraft forums?
#2996 [23:48] <Mathuin> peachykeen: I already have people thinking I'm crazy, talking to myself on IRC would just confirm it. :-)
#2997 [23:48] <Diablothein> #minecraft or #mcchatter
#2998 [23:48] <peachykeen> heh. I don't doubt there are other tool-builders, a #mctech or #mcmodding channel could have interesting convos.
#2999 [23:49] <Mathuin> I'll check out the "Mapping & Modding" section of the forum, specifically the "Map Generators & Editors" subforum. Sounds about right.
#3000 [23:50] <peachykeen> Diablothein: in that post, I don't have the same NIC type and the options listed aren't available in my drivers.
#3001 [23:50] <Diablothein> Kealper, mind helping him out?
#3002 [23:50] <peachykeen> Device manager swears it's a RealTek PCIe NIC, onboard.
#3003 [23:50] <peachykeen> Is that a known issue with those chips too?
#3004 [23:53] <Diablothein> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=51448
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#3006 [23:56] <peachykeen> hm, appears to be the same fix as the other page, more or less.
#3007 [23:56] <peachykeen> I'm not getting a Java socket error or any kind of exception, though.
#3008 [23:56] <peachykeen> Just an "end of stream" whenever anyone tries to connect.
#3009 [23:57] <Diablothein> Well, unless KEALPER wakes up and helps, you're sorta stuck because I've no further ideas.
#3010 [23:58] <peachykeen> Alright, thanks for the suggestions. I'll keep playing with it till then.
#3011 [23:58] <Mathuin> peachykeen: if you have plenty of time, I have a crazy idea. Try running Minecraft in a virtual machine, like VirtualBox, in order to have the virtual network interface take on the hard part of dealing with all the socket read/writes instead of your actual network interface.
#3012 [23:59] <Mathuin> You'd have to be insane or really bored to try it, though. :-)