#1 [00:00] <peachykeen> I'm actually working on setting such a thing up now. Also looking to see if I can find a CentOS build of Java, so I can just throw the whole thing at my proper server (doubt the host will appreciate that, though :P).
#2 [00:01] <Mathuin> I seem to recall some folks getting way better results from Sun^WOracle Java versus OpenJVM.
#3 [00:02] <peachykeen> Well, that's a shared server, so I have limited rights there.
#4 [00:02] <peachykeen> I'd rather run it here at the house, but my LAMP box is out of commission, so I'm left with this Windows thingy.
#5 [00:02] <Mathuin> Suddenly VirtualBox sounds less crazy.
#6 [00:02] <peachykeen> Anything is better than serving from windows.
#7 [00:03] <Mathuin> For reals.
#8 [00:04] <Mathuin> Hmm. A forum post pointed me at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Development_Resources which doesn't explicitly say what's used in Beta but I'm inferring that the NBT stuff is used for Beta -- is that correct?
#9 [00:05] <GLaDOS> Kealper: thanks for remembering to take the notice out of the topic
#10 [00:06] <Mathuin> Okay, each cube is a meter on a side, that makes math easy. :-)
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#16 [00:27] <aetherian> itsa mea
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#20 [00:34] <Steve[cug]_> Mathuin: I have been using OpenJDK almost exclusively for the servers and havent noticed any significant difference
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#23 [00:35] <Steve[cug]_> Mathuin: as for the VM idea, depending on the VM technology, it could actually make network I/O worse
#24 [00:36] <Steve[cug]_> VirtualBox makes horrible servers from my experience. VMWare does better, Xen and KVM better still
#25 [00:38] <jobotslash> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with my server, and it's only started since the new Beta update. I'm wondering if it's just me or if others are having it
#26 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> What problem?
#27 [00:38] <jobotslash> http://pastebin.com/sgrCf6pj
#28 [00:38] <aetherian> crud, always sucks when you go back to a game and can't remember username or e-mail used
#29 [00:38] <aetherian> whoa. nice error.
#30 [00:38] <jobotslash> tried downloading fresh .jar server file from minecraft.net as well
#31 [00:38] <Steve[cug]_> jobotslash: vanilla server?
#32 [00:38] <jobotslash> yep yep
#33 [00:39] <jobotslash> no mods, no nothing
#34 [00:39] <Steve[cug]_> yeah try a new jar to start. also check your resources.
#35 [00:39] <Steve[cug]_> is a java process eating a lot of resources?
#36 [00:40] <jobotslash> nah not hogging resources
#37 [00:41] <Steve[cug]_> is your client up to date as well?
#38 [00:41] <jobotslash> does it to local clients and external clients
#39 [00:41] <Steve[cug]_> kk
#40 [00:41] <jobotslash> yep, 1.2_01
#41 [00:41] * Steve[cug]_ is thinking
#41 [00:41] <jobotslash> I've had almost all of my external users complain about it, I've experienced it myself, as well as another machine on my network.
#42 [00:42] <jobotslash> always seems to give a "took too long to log in" error
#43 [00:42] <Steve[cug]_> oooh
#44 [00:42] <Steve[cug]_> you have the server in offline mode or online mode?
#45 [00:42] <jobotslash> online, if I'm not mistaken
#46 [00:43] * jobotslash checks
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#47 [00:43] <Steve[cug]_> yeah that would do it
#48 [00:43] <Steve[cug]_> the mc.net auth servers are overloaded
#49 [00:43] <jobotslash> ah damn
#50 [00:43] <Steve[cug]_> I would recommend switching it to offline
#51 [00:43] <Steve[cug]_> you'll login, but not as your username
#52 [00:43] <jobotslash> well, in offline mode, if your server isn't advertised to the whole internet, no worries.. right?
#53 [00:43] <Steve[cug]_> you can use bukkit and some outside auth engine
#54 [00:43] <jobotslash> bukkit works?
#55 [00:44] <Steve[cug]_> yeah
#56 [00:44] <Steve[cug]_> it's still heavy dev, but works
#57 [00:44] <Steve[cug]_> I use it on minecraft.cugnet.net ;)
#58 [00:44] <jobotslash> I was looking at it about a week ago, and it was quite infant. hehe
#59 [00:44] <Steve[cug]_> it still is, but with hey0 gone, we need something
#60 [00:45] <jobotslash> hey0 =((( you will be missed
#61 [00:45] <Steve[cug]_> to be honest, this is a small pain period that will be better in the long run
#62 [00:45] <Steve[cug]_> hey0 had some major design flaws
#63 [00:46] <jobotslash> well I'll give that a try. turn to offline mode for now...
#64 [00:46] <Steve[cug]> yeah
#65 [00:46] <Steve[cug]> just keep in mind you will NOT be your usual user
#66 [00:46] <jobotslash> no doubt it did, but it added a lot of good stuff that made things much easier
#67 [00:46] <jobotslash> haha, okay I've never done offline mode before... it sounds scary =)
#68 [00:46] <Steve[cug]> yeah, but it actually slowed down servers a LOT
#69 [00:46] <Steve[cug]> jobotslash: basically it'll turn off the auth peice
#70 [00:49] <jobotslash> ha, just as soon as I get ready to stop the server, my user finally is able to get in x.x but it totally makes sense why it was goofing
#71 [00:49] <Steve[cug]> yeah
#72 [00:49] <jobotslash> I was just confused about all of the java.net.plainsocket etc etc
#73 [00:49] <Steve[cug]> the mc.net auth servers are just overloaded
#74 [00:50] <jobotslash> yeah, I remember notch tweeted they were working on migrating to one that could handle the load they were experiencing
#75 [00:50] <Steve[cug]> yeah
#76 [00:50] <jobotslash> well I thank you Steve, and I'll give bukkit a look now that I have heard that it actually worked for someone. hah.
#77 [00:51] <Steve[cug]> honestly I think he just needs to rethink user auth
#78 [00:51] <Steve[cug]> jobotslash: yeah it's actually pretty stable
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#80 [00:52] <jobotslash> works great now, haha
#81 [00:52] <Steve[cug]> ;)
#82 [00:52] <Steve[cug]> excellent
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#84 [00:53] <jobotslash> seems to have logged me in under my proper user name, which is cool. hope
#85 [00:53] <jobotslash> it keeps doing that
#86 [00:54] <Steve[cug]> probably because your client can auth
#87 [00:55] <jobotslash> ah, makes sense. so like a pirate could enter my game, if they knew my server creds
#88 [00:55] <Steve[cug]> correct
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#101 [01:17] <KillSpammer> *dance*
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#109 [01:38] <zap283> Hello, all
#110 [01:38] <zap283> I'm sorry if this is a frequent question, but do the server issues affect one's ability to login to multiplayer servers?
#111 [01:39] <zap283> I am logged in to my minecraft account at the moment
#112 [01:39] <zap283> but all the multiplayr servers timeout
#113 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> zap283 -Yes they do
#114 [01:40] <zap283> Yes, the server issues do?
#115 [01:40] * GreyVulpine nods
#115 [01:40] <zap283> Ahh I see
#116 [01:41] <zap283> Thanks very much, for I was confused
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#123 [02:07] <timbers> Hey guys sorry if this is a simple question, I have been googlibg the as
#124 [02:08] <timbers> Shoot let me try again
#125 [02:08] <timbers> Does the items.png control the actual weapons in game or just the menu pics?
#126 [02:09] <xolotl> timbers: I'm pretty sure the ingame weapons are generated from the menu pics
#127 [02:10] <xolotl> I could be wrong though
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#129 [02:11] <peachy> The pics seem to be generated from the ingame stuff, which appears to come from the image files.
#130 [02:11] <timbers> Ok, is it possible to up the resolution of items.png like people have changed textures upto 128?
#131 [02:14] <timbers> It's strange, the sword looks like it could come from the items.png but the buckets look nothing alike
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#133 [02:21] <nipper> wow http://www.dump.com/2011/01/16/minecraft-rave-video/
#134 [02:23] <timbers> That's very cool
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#137 [02:31] <timbers> So many minecraft websites out there but so few genuine mod tuts :(
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#139 [02:32] <TrueWolves> <Amsg: Starting my anywhere from 1 to 14 week break from IRC, see everyone later>
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#141 [02:39] <minty115> hello
#142 [02:39] <minty115> i need help
#143 [02:40] <minty115> why cant i log into #minecraft?
#144 [02:41] <aetherian> wow...
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#147 [02:58] <fork> http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/other-games/151179d1284804236-minecraft-echo-hyperionstud
#148 [03:00] <aetherian> fork: did you just find that?
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#150 [03:01] <minty115> hello
#151 [03:01] <aetherian> minty
#152 [03:01] <aetherian> go to #minecraft
#153 [03:01] <aetherian> and look at the topic
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#155 [03:01] <aetherian> to find your answers
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#157 [03:02] <timbers> aetherian: should I ask nodding questions here or in the normal #minecraft channel?
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#159 [03:02] <timbers> Lol modding questions
#160 [03:02] <minty> ok
#161 [03:02] <minty> i gotta register
#162 [03:02] <minty> how..
#163 [03:02] <aetherian> huh who wha, timbers?
#164 [03:02] <aetherian> minty: /ns register help
#165 [03:02] <aetherian> nodding questions are directed to #sleep
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#167 [03:04] <minty> so
#168 [03:04] <aetherian> so what
#169 [03:04] <minty> ./register password email
#170 [03:04] <minty> got it
#171 [03:04] <aetherian> nonono
#172 [03:05] <aetherian> /ns register pass mail
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#174 [03:06] <fork> aetherian: yes, yes i did
#175 [03:06] <fork> old maybe i dont care
#176 [03:06] <timbers> Lol @ #sleep, I meant modding questions
#177 [03:07] <aetherian> fork: quite old
#178 [03:07] <fork> cool dont care
#179 [03:07] <aetherian> timbers: I think it's #risucraft
#180 [03:07] * aetherian shoves a SPORK in fork's eye
#180 [03:10] <minty> so
#181 [03:10] <minty> when i exit irc
#182 [03:10] <minty> and enter again
#183 [03:10] <minty> how i log in
#184 [03:10] <aetherian> try it.
#185 [03:10] <aetherian> you will see.
#186 [03:11] <aetherian> and if you must know
#187 [03:11] <aetherian> it's
#188 [03:11] <aetherian> /ns identify pass
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#190 [03:13] <minty> thx
#191 [03:13] <minty> btw
#192 [03:13] <minty> is my name green :P
#193 [03:14] <minty> anyway
#194 [03:14] <aetherian> not on my client
#195 [03:14] <minty> thx for the help
#196 [03:14] <minty> bb
#197 [03:14] <minty> whts ur client?
#198 [03:14] <minty> i got mibbit
#199 [03:14] <aetherian> a better on than mibbit mine is.
#200 [03:14] <aetherian> mibbit=fail
#201 [03:14] <fork> im drinking a skunked beer
#202 [03:14] <fork> blech
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#204 [03:25] <Fleder> hello there, ive got a question about servers and ip adresses
#205 [03:25] <Fleder> is it possible to connect to a server using a dyndns address?
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#207 [03:31] <BarryCarlyon> Fleder: yes
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#209 [03:34] <Fleder> BarryCarlyon i tried it with my dyndns account but noone was able to join
#210 [03:42] <aetherian> I gotta hit the hay.
#211 [03:42] <aetherian> it tried to kill my brother
#212 [03:42] * aetherian punches hay
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#225 [04:18] <Ixonian> Hello all! I am having some trouble logging into my own server again, all of my friends can join but I can´t. I was here yesterday asking for help and was provided with another IP to connect from, but that doesn´t work today either for some strange reason. All I get is "Internal Client Error: java.Connect.Exception: Connection timed out: connect
#226 [04:19] <Ixonian> The server IP is provided via Hamachi and I run the game from the same machine that hosts the serverm but that have been no problem up until now
#227 [04:20] <Ellie> have you tried 127.0.0.1 as the IP?
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#229 [04:21] <Ixonian> Yup
#230 [04:22] <Ellie> goto http://whatismyip.org/ and try the IP it shows there
#231 [04:23] <Ixonian> I´ll give it a shot
#232 [04:23] <Ellie> also, what OS are you on?
#233 [04:26] <Ixonian> Uh, XP
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#235 [04:26] <Ixonian> I have to go now, if the problem exists when I get back later I´ll get back to you, have a great day all!
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#237 [04:31] <Zemarano> When was it that the Minecraft.net started moving?
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#241 [04:44] <minty115> Help plz
#242 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> With?
#243 [04:48] <zampa> When you play multiplayer dont you risk other players destroying your creations?
#244 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#245 [04:49] <zampa> so building damn nice things is better suited for solo mode then i guess :P
#246 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> Or you invite only people you trust
#247 [04:51] <zampa> point taken.
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#250 [04:57] <minty115> I figured it out
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#253 [04:58] <Solvius> hello all
#254 [04:59] <Jeric_Frion> quick question all is anyone having problems connecting to the minecraft severs
#255 [05:01] <Solvius> yup
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#260 [05:20] <wonder_> hello i have a question
#261 [05:20] <lemon-rev> ask away
#262 [05:21] <wonder_> i just bought the game, but i cant play it?
#263 [05:21] <wonder_> for some reason i cant login
#264 [05:21] <lemon-rev> yea yea, have you or can you connect to minecrat.net
#265 [05:21] <lemon-rev> the site
#266 [05:21] <lemon-rev> ?
#267 [05:21] <wonder_> sometimes
#268 [05:21] <lemon-rev> minecraft.net *
#269 [05:21] <wonder_> i can now
#270 [05:21] <lemon-rev> ok,
#271 [05:22] <lemon-rev> http://notch.tumblr.com/ < read that
#272 [05:23] <lemon-rev> wonder_ what does the game do so you can get to the login screen correct ?
#273 [05:24] <wonder_> im not playing through browser btw.. but abyways, it says either "Player not premium" or "cannot connect to minecraft.net"
#274 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> It contacts the script that determines your validity.
#275 [05:24] <wonder_> maybe my account hasnt been activated yet
#276 [05:24] <lemon-rev> sounds like it, untill you can make the connection to minecraft.net
#277 [05:25] <lemon-rev> grey
#278 [05:25] <lemon-rev> is autobot still got nick or check
#279 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> ?
#280 [05:26] <lemon-rev> enabled ?
#281 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Um
#282 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> !check
#283 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Oh right, bleh
#284 [05:26] <lemon-rev> lol
#285 [05:26] <lemon-rev> i see
#286 [05:26] <lemon-rev> wonder_
#287 [05:26] <wonder_> yes
#288 [05:26] <lemon-rev> whats your username
#289 [05:26] <wonder_> this
#290 [05:26] <wonder_> <-
#291 [05:26] <lemon-rev> ok
#292 [05:26] <lemon-rev> !help
#293 [05:27] <lemon-rev> !paid wonder_
#294 [05:27] <lemon-rev> hm
#295 [05:27] <lemon-rev> broke lol
#296 [05:27] <wonder_> zz
#297 [05:27] <wonder_> then it hasnt come through yet i guess
#298 [05:27] <lemon-rev> check your email
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#300 [05:28] <wonder_> no emails from minecraft
#301 [05:28] <lemon-rev> what about the majang
#302 [05:28] <lemon-rev> any from that
#303 [05:28] <lemon-rev> or from paypal
#304 [05:29] <lemon-rev> if thats what you used to pay from ?
#305 [05:29] <wonder_> nope
#306 [05:29] <wonder_> used my card
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#308 [05:29] <lemon-rev> hm
#309 [05:29] <MrDodo> i was able to buy the game through paypal for anyone whos wonderin..
#310 [05:29] <clownbaby> ah, well that autobot answered my question already
#311 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#312 [05:30] <clownbaby> i suppose i need more patience
#313 [05:30] <MrDodo> good ol' autobot
#314 [05:30] * GreyBot purrs.
#314 [05:30] <clownbaby> I'm just excited about trying it out! just bought it
#315 [05:31] <MrDodo> yea me too.. :P
#316 [05:31] <ChauffeR> !paid chauffer
#317 [05:31] <wonder_> well i see in my netbank that the money is gone as an reserved transaction
#318 [05:31] <ChauffeR> wow lagbot
#319 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> Nah, the website's slow
#320 [05:31] <ChauffeR> !paid ChauffeR
#321 [05:31] <ChauffeR> indeed, lagbot.
#322 [05:31] <clownbaby> !paid viceconroy
#323 [05:31] <lukegb> !paid lukegb
#324 [05:32] <ChauffeR> orly
#325 [05:32] <MrDodo> i wanna do multi but im downloadin somethin..
#326 [05:32] <ChauffeR> i did
#327 [05:32] <ChauffeR> !server
#328 [05:32] <MrDodo> !paid MrDodo
#329 [05:32] <ChauffeR> !paid Notch
#330 [05:32] <clownbaby> blasphemy
#331 [05:32] <GreyVulpine> Okay now, don't spam
#332 [05:33] <clownbaby> just curious, how long ago did you guys try to buy it?
#333 [05:33] <MrDodo> doh!
#334 [05:33] <wonder_> 10 minutes
#335 [05:33] <wonder_> 15
#336 [05:33] <MrDodo> couple of hours
#337 [05:33] <ChauffeR> lawl
#338 [05:33] <fork> haha
#339 [05:33] <wonder_> woah
#340 [05:33] <clownbaby> lol
#341 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Well, they're currently in the middle of a server migration
#342 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> It will most likely cause a delay
#343 [05:34] <ChauffeR> GreyVulpine: they can't neither migrate a server
#344 [05:34] <clownbaby> yeah that's fine
#345 [05:34] <clownbaby> i'll leave the bot alone
#346 [05:34] <ChauffeR> imo migration = keep server 1 online > copy everything to server 2 > check server 2 works >switch to server 2
#347 [05:34] <wonder_> THIS
#348 [05:34] <wonder_> ^
#349 [05:34] <MrDodo> agreed
#350 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> Would be a good plan, except server 1 can't keep its head above water right now
#351 [05:35] <GreyVulpine> No point
#352 [05:35] <MrDodo> hah
#353 [05:35] <MrDodo> trueness
#354 [05:35] <ChauffeR> not my fault if you've not planned nothing
#355 [05:35] <clownbaby> wat
#356 [05:35] <ChauffeR> escalation
#357 [05:35] <ChauffeR> ynno
#358 [05:35] <GreyVulpine> Did Notch really plan on Minecraft breaking a million purchases a year after release?
#359 [05:35] <MrDodo> will it be heaps faster and actually load the whole time instead of half the time when its done?
#360 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> Did he know he would need a cluster of servers to handle the website, authentication, skins, on top of purchases?
#361 [05:36] <zampa> What I seem to fail to understand is..
#362 [05:36] <zampa> I thought minecraft was intended for phones?
#363 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> What?
#364 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> Um, no?
#365 [05:37] <clownbaby> this isn't the minecraft phone support channel?
#366 [05:37] <zampa> I seem to have got everything on the backfoot then heh. So I were actualyl quite suprised it existed for PC's too.
#367 [05:37] <zampa> It was simply a general question. I don't need any help with it.
#368 [05:37] <zampa> I do play it on a PC so. :)
#369 [05:37] <MrDodo> i didnt know it was on a phone.. :S
#370 [05:38] <clownbaby> grey, do confirmation e-mails get sent out when the account gets changed to premium with purchase?
#371 [05:39] <GreyVulpine> I don't really know what's going on with emails. They should be sent out, but sometimes the email server gets overloaded.
#372 [05:39] <MrDodo> will skins be back online when the server changes?
#373 [05:39] <GreyVulpine> I don't know if they've moved onto a server of their own, or if they're still using gmail's
#374 [05:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes MrDodo
#375 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> They're planning on splitting up the tasks of authentications, skins, and the website onto a cluster of machines
#376 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully it'll work out once the dust settles
#377 [05:40] <MrDodo> oo thats cool
#378 [05:40] <MrDodo> er
#379 [05:40] <clownbaby> so.... watching the GSL code a matches?
#380 [05:41] <clownbaby> (starcraft 2)
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#382 [05:50] * OODavo has set up /usr/games/fortune to load quotes from bash.org and show them on starting shell sessions. It is excellent.
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#383 [05:52] <ChauffeR> lol oodavo
#384 [05:52] * OODavo realises he's in #minecrafthelp and not #minecraft.
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#385 [05:52] <OODavo> It would have been slightly more appropriate to say that in #minecraft.
#386 [05:52] <OODavo> :P
#387 [05:52] <ChauffeR> did you follow a tutorial?
#388 [05:53] <OODavo> I looked up some scripts to get the quotes, yeah.
#389 [05:53] <ChauffeR> mind sharing?
#390 [05:53] <ChauffeR> it could be kewl on my vps
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#392 [05:53] <ChauffeR> not on dedicated D:
#393 [05:53] <OODavo> http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/2116/random-line-from-bash.org-funny-irc-quotes
#394 [05:53] <ChauffeR> thanks! :)
#395 [05:53] <OODavo> I used the links -dump one.
#396 [05:54] <ChauffeR> ok
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#398 [05:57] <OODavo> :)
#399 [05:59] <KillSpammer> Elephant bob cheese mouse wtf randoz killspammer.net bored to helpl helpz me
#400 [06:00] <lemon-rev> what with your elephant
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#402 [06:06] <Solvius> elephants are affraid of lemon colored gates
#403 [06:07] <Solvius> if ya want to keep them out of your garden color it lemon :)
#404 [06:08] <Solvius> check the name for MP down grrrrr
#405 [06:09] <Solvius> allright it works... ehm sometimes :)
#406 [06:09] <lemon-rev> gates oh
#407 [06:10] <lemon-rev> hm, ehm, eerrrmmmm
#408 [06:10] <lemon-rev> lol
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#414 [06:50] <zampa> so... can you find like a dungeon while mining?
#415 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#416 [06:52] <zampa> i read here they were like 5x5 or 7x7
#417 [06:52] <zampa> i thought of like massive dungeons.
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#419 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> A "dungeon" is just a room with a mob spawner, with 2 chests
#420 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> It usually has a cave system leading up to it
#421 [06:55] <zampa> yeah sort of like a epic cave system.
#422 [06:55] <zampa> found something about it on the tutorial right now cant wait to find it. :>
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#424 [06:57] <zampa> GreyVulpine: And thank you. :)
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#426 [06:57] <zampa> Guess I say that a bit too seldom. sorry for that.
#427 [06:57] <clownbaby> how long should I wait for my account to go "premium?"
#428 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> Usually 24 hours is how long you need to wait before contacting mojang
#429 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes it's immediate, sometimes it can take a few days
#430 [06:59] <clownbaby> alright! have a good night
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#437 [07:13] <Dwezz> hi, can i talk to an admin or someone who can answer some quistions
#438 [07:13] <Dwezz> questions*
#439 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> Concerning...
#440 [07:15] <Dwezz> Evry time im connecting to a server i says "Internal client error: Javan.net.connectExeption: connection timed out"
#441 [07:15] <Dwezz> Whats the reason for that?
#442 [07:16] <evtl> still problems? :(
#443 [07:17] <mbentley> that would be because minecraft.net is down
#444 [07:17] <mbentley> by down i mean it is rarely loading
#445 [07:17] <evtl> Dwezz
#446 [07:17] <evtl> u can try it
#447 [07:17] <evtl> now i needed 5 times
#448 [07:17] <evtl> yesterda 20
#449 [07:17] <Dwezz> Its only in multiplayer
#450 [07:17] <evtl> but it works
#451 [07:17] <evtl> yes
#452 [07:17] <Dwezz> so, i just have to keep trying?
#453 [07:18] <evtl> yes
#454 [07:18] <mbentley> pretty much
#455 [07:18] <evtl> seems that minecraft.net is on for mp just for 1% the time^
#456 [07:18] <evtl> its just luck
#457 [07:18] <evtl> so
#458 [07:18] <evtl> iam going to play ;Y
#459 [07:19] <Dwezz> aw :-/
#460 [07:20] <Dwezz> So how long time does i take before its fixed?
#461 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> About a day
#462 [07:20] <Dwezz> Alright, thats fine
#463 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> Currently in the process of server migration
#464 [07:21] <Dwezz> Just thought it was like a week or something so no worries i see.
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#467 [07:28] <mbentley> hmm... http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_net_down_ish
#468 [07:32] <Tajha> <GreyVulpine> A "dungeon" is just a room with a mob spawner, with 2 chests <--- Most of the dungeon's I've found only have one chest >.>
#469 [07:33] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#469 [07:34] * KillSpammer thinks GreyVulpine shrugs alot
#469 [07:34] * KillSpammer also thinks GreyVulpine uses /me alot
#469 [07:34] * GreyVulpine denies everything
#469 [07:35] * KillSpammer thinks that is a lie!
#469 [07:35] * GreyVulpine shrugs
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#470 [07:39] <mbentley> should have called in sick to play lbp2 all day
#471 [07:39] <mbentley> :D
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#474 [07:42] <N3RF> Minecraft still down? :O
#475 [07:43] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#476 [07:44] <mbentley> pretty much
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#478 [07:44] <KillSpammer> Im bored :S
#479 [07:45] <KillSpammer> I have nothing to do with killspammer.net other than non direct advertise people there
#480 [07:45] <Allle> Is minecraft down?! Slow for me?
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#482 [07:45] <mbentley> site randomly reponds
#483 [07:45] <Allle> oh, I see npw
#484 [07:45] <Allle> now*
#485 [07:45] <Allle> Please note that you will probably have trouble logging in to the game for today, minecraft.net is currently being moved to a more powerful set of servers! Sorry for any issues this may cause.
#486 [07:46] <mbentley> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_net_down_ish
#487 [07:46] <mbentley> apparently it has moved but is still having issues due to traffic
#488 [07:47] <Allle> Thank you sir
#489 [07:47] <mbentley> np
#490 [07:47] <LordEddi> Hehe, i decided to start play at a bad time i see :)
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#493 [07:56] <Cocher> are the servers down?
#494 [07:57] <mbentley> Cocher: minecraft.net is currently experiencing a service outage. for more information >> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_net_down_ish
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#496 [07:57] <Cocher> thank u sir
#497 [07:57] <mbentley> np
#498 [07:57] <Cocher> ;)
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#513 [08:45] <KillSpammer> Silence?
#514 [08:46] <LordEddi> I kill you?
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#528 [09:29] <Hawkzy> Lol. I just typed Notch on my iPhone and it autocorrected it to Botch.
#529 [09:30] <LordEddi> Gotta love autocorrect on the iphone ;)
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#531 [09:37] <Hawkzy> http://www.londonslang.com - cream your pants / knickers - an expression used to describe an excited or enthusiastic reaction (ie. orgasm). eg. "I bet if you saw his new car you'd cream your pants !".
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#533 [09:39] * mbentley whistles
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#534 [09:43] <sTEINHAUG> Hi
#535 [09:44] <sTEINHAUG> How do i fix the java problem.. Getting java problems when i try to connect to a friend server. Pissing me off..
#536 [09:44] <ConMan8> THE java problem
#537 [09:44] <Kealper> what sort of java problems?
#538 [09:44] <xolotl> The server
#539 [09:44] <xolotl> er
#540 [09:45] <xolotl> errant enter key there
#541 [09:45] <xolotl> But now I'm committed!
#542 [09:45] <xolotl> sTEINHAUG: The auth server is still having problems today, I believe; multiplayer may be touchy
#543 [09:45] <sTEINHAUG> Internal Client error: Java.net.ConnectException: connection timed out: connect
#544 [09:45] <Kealper> grats on your +, xolotl
#545 [09:45] <xolotl> Kealper: zomg!
#546 [09:45] <sTEINHAUG> Had it last 3 days..
#547 [09:45] * ConMan8 pokes Kealper
#547 [09:46] <mbentley> sTEINHAUG: minecraft.net is currently experiencing a service outage. for more information >> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_net_down_ish
#548 [09:46] * Kealper wonders if he just said something insanely stupid
#548 [09:50] <ConMan8> Kealper: vop xolotl
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#552 [09:55] * Solvius did some calculating, so it takes around 1 minute to walk a distance of 600 blocks, so it takes an hour to walk 36000 blocks. if I walk a day (24 hour) then I make a distance of 864000 blocks. After a week walking ya will cross 6048000 blocks. I think I'm gonna make my hoster of my MP map happy :D I go on a long trip... :D
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#553 [09:59] <Solvius> as I understand thats not possible, I was just wondering what 1,5 times the earth mean, and thats huge
#554 [09:59] <KillSpammer> Apparently it is
#555 [09:59] <KillSpammer> Theres alot of storys relating to ti
#556 [09:59] <Solvius> roughly 22 million blocks in a row
#557 [10:00] <xolotl> The engine currently has pretty severe problems once you get a few hundred thousand kilometers out though
#558 [10:00] <xolotl> The *effective* size of the map is smaller than the Earth currently
#559 [10:00] <xolotl> (due to rounding errors and the like)
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#564 [10:01] <Solvius> I have taken the diameter of the earth
#565 [10:01] <Solvius> roughly :)
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#567 [10:02] <xolotl> It'd be more than 22 million, yeah? Total x/z axis length should be 2^64
#568 [10:03] <Solvius> its more then 22 million, but I have cutted it down to that, its allready huge number of blocks
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#570 [10:05] <Crow> hey
#571 [10:06] <mbentley> hi
#572 [10:06] <Crow> my minecraft clasic sias play online once to enable ofline
#573 [10:06] <Crow> what to do ??
#574 [10:07] <ConMan8> Minecraft Classic doesn't do that
#575 [10:07] <ConMan8> If you're talking about beta, all you need to do is login
#576 [10:07] <ConMan8> and it'll get the game files and you'll be able to play
#577 [10:08] <Crow> minecraft launcher
#578 [10:08] <Crow> cant connect to minecraft.net
#579 [10:09] <mbentley> !client
#580 [10:09] <mbentley> try a direct download link
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#582 [10:09] <mbentley> may take a try or two...
#583 [10:10] <Crow> k ill try
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#587 [10:14] <Ripsaw> anyone having trouble logging on to online servers?
#588 [10:14] <Crow> i cant press play offline :/
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#590 [10:15] <Crow> there are 2 buttons tryagain or play offline
#591 [10:15] <mbentley> Crow: it needs to successfully login once
#592 [10:15] <mbentley> just keep trying
#593 [10:15] <Ripsaw> I didn't know if there was a server problem
#594 [10:15] <mbentley> Ripsaw: minecraft.net is currently experiencing a service outage. for more information >> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_net_down_ish
#595 [10:15] <Crow> does it matter if i got a ipv6 adress ??
#596 [10:15] <Ripsaw> thank you
#597 [10:15] <mbentley> Crow: shouldn't
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#599 [10:16] <mbentley> routers should be able to 'translate' ipv6 => ipv4
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#601 [10:16] <ConMan8> What happened to ipv5?
#602 [10:16] <mbentley> ...
#603 [10:17] * ConMan8 noob
#603 [10:17] * mbentley isn't sure if that is a real question
#603 [10:17] <Crow> that1 was a sort of crashing ip
#604 [10:17] <ConMan8> You can't just go from four to six
#605 [10:17] <Crow> they do now here in the netherlands
#606 [10:17] <Crow> xD
#607 [10:18] <Crow> but btw minecraft sais user not premium :S
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#609 [10:20] <mbentley> then your account hasn't been activated yet
#610 [10:20] <Crow> how to do ??
#611 [10:20] <mbentley> you have paid, correct?
#612 [10:21] <Crow> yes
#613 [10:21] <Crow> no
#614 [10:21] <Crow> lol
#615 [10:21] <Crow> i tough you said playd
#616 [10:21] <Crow> xD
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#619 [10:22] <mbentley> buying the game tends to help
#620 [10:22] <mbentley> :D
#621 [10:22] <Roenie> still the same problems?
#622 [10:22] <mbentley> Roenie: yup
#623 [10:23] <Roenie> this is why programmers shouldn't admin servers
#624 [10:23] <Crow> so i need to get the game befor i can play mc clasic ofline ??:O
#625 [10:23] <mbentley> wait, what? you want to play classic?
#626 [10:23] <mbentley> there is no offline client for classic afaik
#627 [10:24] <Shadow386> mbentley wom
#628 [10:24] <Shadow386> if it cant connect, it goes offline classic
#629 [10:24] <Crow> hu wierd my friend downloaded the game and registered and he can play it
#630 [10:25] <Shadow386> he's probably using a hack or torrented the game
#631 [10:25] <Crow> no i was at his place when he was downloading it :S
#632 [10:25] <xales> Crow: There is no official, legitimate download for Classic
#633 [10:25] <Crow> wierd
#634 [10:26] <Shadow386> where did he download it from
#635 [10:26] <Crow> from the site :S
#636 [10:26] <Roenie> gayporntorrents.com
#637 [10:26] <mbentley> 'the site'?
#638 [10:26] <xales> There is no download from minecraft.net for Classic, Crow
#639 [10:26] <mbentley> and are you sure he wasn't downloading the classic server software?
#640 [10:27] <Crow> yep im shure
#641 [10:27] <Shadow386> what url did he go to
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#643 [10:28] <Crow> http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft.exe
#644 [10:28] <Crow> that1
#645 [10:28] <xales> That isn't Classic
#646 [10:28] <Shadow386> that's beta/survival
#647 [10:28] <Crow> oh
#648 [10:28] <Crow> but i downloaded it and it doesnt work for me
#649 [10:29] <xales> Yes - it isn't free
#650 [10:29] <Shadow386> then he mustve bought the game
#651 [10:29] <mbentley> lol
#652 [10:29] <Crow> hmm
#653 [10:29] <xales> (or he edited hosts and ran a webserver locally....)
#654 [10:29] * xales stops talking now
#654 [10:30] <mbentley> from what i hear, that hack should be going away with the next update
#655 [10:30] <Shadow386> xales or he was a faggot and downloaded files before hand
#656 [10:30] <xales> Or that
#657 [10:30] <Shadow386> mbentley i sure hope so
#658 [10:30] <Shadow386> i wonder how he plans to stop this one person from hacking the game.
#659 [10:31] <mbentley> tobias - 'Ah it's np, I'm glad you're able to (lawfully :P) use the game although the servers are down. Making your own auth-system will not be possible after the next deploy, so we kind of already fixed it. : )'
#660 [10:31] <Shadow386> i've seen a hack that allows you to play online with any name.
#661 [10:31] <mbentley> it's that whole cat & mouse game... i am sure someone will always come back with a way to not have to pay
#662 [10:31] <xales> mbentley: Where did you hear that?
#663 [10:31] <mbentley> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_net_down_ish
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#665 [10:32] <Jedi-Mocro> Yow
#666 [10:32] <Jedi-Mocro> How come I can't login anymore?
#667 [10:32] <Jedi-Mocro> into servers
#668 [10:32] <mbentley> Jedi-Mocro: minecraft.net is currently experiencing a service outage. for more information >> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_net_down_ish
#669 [10:32] <Crow> so im stuck to the slow browser version
#670 [10:32] <Crow> ??
#671 [10:32] <Jedi-Mocro> thaks mbentley
#672 [10:32] <mbentley> Crow: that is called minecraft classic
#673 [10:32] <mbentley> and yes
#674 [10:32] <mbentley> :)
#675 [10:32] <ConMan8> if that's slow
#676 [10:33] <mbentley> unless you want to pay
#677 [10:33] <Shadow386> worth every dime
#678 [10:33] <mbentley> ^+1
#679 [10:33] <ConMan8> more
#680 [10:33] <Crow> will mc clasic be a ofline 1 ??
#681 [10:33] <Shadow386> look on ebay for alpha codes though, i believe there are a few left
#682 [10:33] <Crow> in the future
#683 [10:33] <Shadow386> Crow nope
#684 [10:33] <Shadow386> hes done with classic
#685 [10:33] <mbentley> there is no further development of classic
#686 [10:33] <xales> Fact: If you can afford a computer & internet connection, you can afford Minecraft, and it is worth the low cost relative to virtually every other game
#687 [10:34] <xales> anyway
#688 [10:34] * xales fades back into idle army
#688 [10:34] * ConMan8 attempts to deop the idly xales
#688 [10:34] <Shadow386> mbentley should I mention wom?
#689 [10:34] <mbentley> pretty sure i got my money's worth out of the time i played while it was still in 'alpha' statuf
#690 [10:34] <mbentley> you can, we just don't support it
#691 [10:35] <Shadow386> alrighty, Crow if you want to play classic offline, look up worldofminecraft. then you enjoy playing. any issues, dont come here.
#692 [10:35] * KillSpammer attacks idle xales
#692 [10:35] <Crow> another question
#693 [10:35] <Crow> ive got 2 pc's
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#695 [10:35] <Shadow386> not anymore
#696 [10:35] <Shadow386> >:D
#697 [10:36] <KillSpammer> Lol
#698 [10:36] <Crow> is it possible to instal the official version to both pc's and play it??
#699 [10:36] <feenyx> the game itself has no idea if you paid or not, so yes
#700 [10:36] <feenyx> you would need two accounts though
#701 [10:36] <mbentley> if you want to play at the same time, two accounts would be needed
#702 [10:37] <mbentley> i play on multiple computers with the same account but never at the same time
#703 [10:37] <Crow> k
#704 [10:37] <Shadow386> that reminds me, i need to save up for a new motherboard.
#705 [10:37] <Shadow386> I'm on my laptop and I cant play too much since it lags a bit. and my desktop only needs a new motherboard
#706 [10:37] * mbentley eats bacon
#706 [10:37] <mbentley> OM NOM NOM
#707 [10:38] * bacon explodes in mbentley's mouth
#707 [10:38] <mbentley> flavor explosion!
#708 [10:38] <feenyx> crap
#709 [10:38] <feenyx> now I crave bacon
#710 [10:38] <Shadow386> /facepalms and walks out the door
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#712 [10:39] * mbentley makes feenyx some grilled pork
#712 [10:39] <Roenie> is it safe to change my default offline login name to the same as my online accountname, so that i can login in offline mode, set my server to offline mode, and still have the same inventory as normal?
#713 [10:39] <Helpme> someone help me with my premium account not being premium after I paid for it 2 days ago?
#714 [10:40] <mbentley> Helpme: it is likely due to the server issues minecraft.net has been experiencing
#715 [10:40] <mbentley> have you received a confirimation email>
#716 [10:40] <feenyx> mbentley: why thank you, that's very kind
#717 [10:41] <Roenie> (cause i tried to copy inventories over before and after playing a while, i couldn't remove any blocks anymore)
#718 [10:41] <Helpme> no email. just recipt from paypal
#719 [10:42] <Roenie> (copied OnlineUserName.dat to OfflineUserName.dat)
#720 [10:42] <mbentley> i wasn't aware of a legit way to have a different 'offline' account name
#721 [10:42] <mbentley> but then again, i haven't tried
#722 [10:42] <bacon> eh
#723 [10:42] * bacon thinks for a bit
#723 [10:42] <Roenie> you just hex edit a class file in mc.jar\net\client
#724 [10:43] <Roenie> but i haven't figured out how to put a name in there that's shorter or longer than "Player" which is the default
#725 [10:43] <feenyx> bacon can't think, it doesn't have a conscience or intellect
#726 [10:43] <Helpme> so I have to wait for this email to get my paid account working?
#727 [10:43] <bacon> feenyx: exactly
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#729 [10:44] <Roenie> when it's longer or shorter, the game won
#730 [10:44] <Roenie> *won't load
#731 [10:44] <Roenie> i'm a hex iditing noob
#732 [10:44] <Roenie> editing, even
#733 [10:44] <mbentley> well Helpme, normally, you will receive an email as well as be able to see your account status once you login to minecraft.net
#734 [10:44] * bacon invokes
#734 [10:44] <SinZ> i can make stuff shorter with hex editing, but making it bigger is almost inpossible (difficulty wise)
#735 [10:45] <Roenie> i see
#736 [10:45] <SinZ> its all in the client you use, but notch might of done a failsafe for that
#737 [10:45] <Roenie> you just add zeros when you shorten something?
#738 [10:45] <mbentley> guess i don't understand a reason you would want/need a different username in offline vs online...
#739 [10:45] <Helpme> I have received nothing. can't even log in once to play offline. so unfair
#740 [10:45] <SinZ> yeh, manually add 0s
#741 [10:46] <SinZ> Helpme, you just picked a unlucky time to buy
#742 [10:46] <Roenie> mbentley, the default user when offline is "Player", not your online name, and only one player named "Player" can be on the server at a given time
#743 [10:46] <SinZ> Roenie, it numbers the players
#744 [10:46] <SinZ> so Player667, Player 513
#745 [10:46] <SinZ> Player513*
#746 [10:46] <Roenie> doesnt seem to on my server :/
#747 [10:47] <Kealper> no it doesn't
#748 [10:47] <SinZ> did on my vannila server when i did it at school...
#749 [10:47] <Roenie> i join as "Player", mate logs in, i get kicked
#750 [10:47] <Kealper> it will always be Player
#751 [10:47] <Kealper> if you logged in offline
#752 [10:47] <Shadow386> Helpme then blame the fact that there is a crapload of people playing minecraft causeing mc.net to slow down and possibly payments too.
#753 [10:47] <SinZ> yeh, i was called Player667 and he was Player131
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#755 [10:48] <Helpme> ok shadow, i blame all of you for slowing down my playing experience
#756 [10:48] <Shadow386> Roenie easy, but the game
#757 [10:48] * mbentley shrugs
#757 [10:48] <Kealper> then it wasn't vanilla
#758 [10:48] <SinZ> Helpme, i blaim you >:D
#759 [10:48] <Shadow386> Helpme dont blame me, i havent played minecraft in a few days.
#760 [10:48] <feenyx> logged in on the second try
#761 [10:48] <mbentley> when i am playing my server in offline/insecure mode, my username is still 'mbentley'
#762 [10:48] <Roenie> Shadow386 ??
#763 [10:48] * Kealper starts the login process that will make Helpme take even longer to do what he wanted
#763 [10:48] <Shadow386> buy*
#764 [10:49] <Roenie> !paid Roenie82
#765 [10:49] <Roenie> who turned off the bot :/
#766 [10:49] <Roenie> lol
#767 [10:49] <Shadow386> xD
#768 [10:49] <Roenie> fail!
#769 [10:49] <mbentley> it's not off... minecraft.net is just slow
#770 [10:49] <Shadow386> !paid shadow386
#771 [10:49] <Roenie> slow is an understatement, it's plain down as far as i'm concerned
#772 [10:49] <feenyx> I could both authenticate, and log on to a server just fine
#773 [10:50] <feenyx> right now
#774 [10:50] <Shadow386> Roenie isminecraftdown.net
#775 [10:50] <Kealper> want my 2 cents?
#776 [10:50] <mbentley> yeah, it took a while but i was able to login
#777 [10:50] <bacon> It's going to send not paid because it can't get to the haspaid
#778 [10:50] <Shadow386> oh please I bought minecraft early alpha
#779 [10:50] <mbentley> yeah, it took a while but i was able to login
#780 [10:50] <Kealper> it's probably not down, it's probably just maxing out the connections on the webserver
#781 [10:50] <Roenie> which in practise is the same effect
#782 [10:51] <Kealper> meaning everyone might be fighting for something like 10k slots
#783 [10:51] <mbentley> http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=Roenie82 shows 'true' for me
#784 [10:51] <Roenie> i know
#785 [10:51] <Shadow386> mbentley another way to check, http://minecraft.net/skin/playername.png
#786 [10:51] <Roenie> was just trying to make a point to Shadow386 who didn't understand what i was on about
#787 [10:52] <Shadow386> if it 404s, not paid or possibly not owned
#788 [10:52] <Shadow386> well why are you trying to play offline if you have a bought account then?
#789 [10:52] <Shadow386> no sense made
#790 [10:53] <Roenie> anyway, the workaround is : set server to offline mode, change .jar\net\client\blahblah.class "Player" into "YourOnlineName" and log on in offline mode, voila, inventory is there
#791 [10:53] <Kealper> or you could just change your inventory file to Player.dat....
#792 [10:53] <Roenie> i do manage to log in mc @ online mode but cannot join the server if it's in online mode, because due to the server load, the name check fails
#793 [10:53] <Roenie> yep
#794 [10:54] <Roenie> but that only works for me, not the other players on my server
#795 [10:54] <Roenie> in other words everyone has to edit the .class file
#796 [10:54] <Kealper> you never said anything about other players :P
#797 [10:54] <Shadow386> then have them buy the game
#798 [10:55] <Roenie> if anyone is able to actually join a server in online mode right now, please say so
#799 [10:55] <mbentley> maybe i am just not understanding something, but the only reason you would have to edit that class file would be if you didn't pay for the game
#800 [10:55] <Roenie> (without trying 20 times)
#801 [10:55] <feenyx> Roenie: no problems 6 minutes ago
#802 [10:55] <Roenie> b/c if that is the case, i prolly have a plugin problem
#803 [10:55] <Kealper> mbentley: i see what he is talking about
#804 [10:55] <mbentley> mmkay
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#806 [10:56] <Kealper> and it's actually not a bad idea, but i would rather it not be discussed in detail in a public channel, because it could be used to steal the game
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#808 [10:57] <Roenie> ok
#809 [10:57] <wonder_> !paid wonder_
#810 [10:57] <Helpme> how do I blow TNT? im on http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp figure i blow up minecraft since i cant play online!
#811 [10:57] <Kealper> Helpme: redstone and a button
#812 [10:57] <McMads> Why is it we cant play online?
#813 [10:57] <Kealper> !website
#814 [10:58] <KillSpammer> Kealper make it reconise a few strings such as: Whats up with minecraft.net and stuff
#815 [10:58] <KillSpammer> For lolz
#816 [10:58] <KillSpammer> :)
#817 [10:58] <Kealper> if i can't log in to minecraft on this next try, i'll make it feign sentience
#818 [10:59] <Kealper> i've still got about an hour to waste lol
#819 [11:00] <Kealper> looks like i'm making AuBot feign sentience -.-
#820 [11:00] * Roenie jumps off nearest cliff
#820 [11:01] <KillSpammer> Or kealper
#821 [11:01] <KillSpammer> Just when someone say Minecraft.net
#822 [11:01] <KillSpammer> Lol
#823 [11:01] <Kealper> too easy, not cool enough
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#825 [11:09] <Jedi-Mocro> UHM
#826 [11:09] <Jedi-Mocro> Can an admin fix something?
#827 [11:09] <Kealper> hmm?
#828 [11:09] <Jedi-Mocro> Change: Changing skin is currently disabled, check back again in a couple of hours.
#829 [11:09] <Jedi-Mocro> Into: Changing skin is currently disabled, check back again in a couple of days.
#830 [11:09] <Kealper> can't fix that
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#832 [11:10] <Jedi-Mocro> ok
#833 [11:11] <SinZ> question, does cacti damage drops?
#834 [11:11] <Kealper> huh? lol
#835 [11:11] <mbentley> +1
#836 [11:11] <mbentley> heh
#837 [11:11] <KillSpammer> SinZ, it destroyes dropped blocks on touch
#838 [11:11] <SinZ> when you drop an item, would cactus damage the items and portentuly break them
#839 [11:11] <mbentley> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Cacti
#840 [11:11] <KillSpammer> Yes Sinz
#841 [11:12] <SinZ> ah, k
#842 [11:12] <Kealper> no
#843 [11:12] <Kealper> yes?
#844 [11:12] <bacon> cacti does damage pickups
#845 [11:12] <SinZ> not using it on my mob shredder then
#846 [11:12] <bacon> and since they have 1 health
#847 [11:12] <Kealper> oh....OH....i know what he meant now
#848 [11:12] <KillSpammer> BACON!
#849 [11:12] <SinZ> i prefer the lava on ladder trick =P
#850 [11:12] <KillSpammer> He is back!
#851 [11:12] * bacon slaps KillSpammer with itself
#851 [11:12] * KillSpammer licks bacon
#851 [11:12] <bacon> bacon slap
#852 [11:12] * KillSpammer realises bacon is not cooked
#852 [11:13] <bacon> ^_^
#853 [11:13] * KillSpammer relocates bacon to his frying pan and turns it on
#853 [11:13] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#854 [11:13] * KillSpammer gets distracted by naruto manga
#854 [11:13] <Kealper> hey guys, why doesn't my server let me log in?
#855 [11:13] <Kealper> you suck AuBot
#856 [11:13] * Kealper goes back to code
#856 [11:13] <mbentley> hay d00dz! why doesn't my server let me log in? </emo orange>
#857 [11:14] <Kealper> might have been the semi-retarded syntax i was using for checking words
#858 [11:15] <KillSpammer> If it was semi retarded wouldnt it be made by a semi retarded person
#859 [11:15] <KillSpammer> And didnt you make that code?
#860 [11:15] <Kealper> one could assume
#861 [11:16] * KillSpammer sees bacon is on fire
#861 [11:16] * KillSpammer relocates bacon to kealpers mouth
#861 [11:16] <KillSpammer> Kealper
#862 [11:16] <KillSpammer> Uhh
#863 [11:16] <KillSpammer> Bacons on fire
#864 [11:17] <Kealper> O.o
#865 [11:17] <KillSpammer> Im sure you like your bacon hot.
#866 [11:17] <bacon> I'm burnt
#867 [11:17] <KillSpammer> Erm... Right?
#868 [11:17] * bacon sizzles
#868 [11:17] <KillSpammer> Bacon your in a mouth :S
#869 [11:17] * bacon idly sits in Kealper's mouth
#869 [11:17] <KillSpammer> Im confused why this bird has a knife in its mouth: http://manga.animea.net/naruto-chapter-11-page-3.html
#870 [11:17] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#871 [11:18] <Kealper> why doesn't minecraft.net work for me?
#872 [11:18] * KillSpammer realises Kealper face is getting burnt
#872 [11:18] <KillSpammer> Why cant i login to minecraft?
#873 [11:18] <Kealper> my server does not work, can anyone help me?
#874 [11:18] <KillSpammer> Kealper you should make a way for it to reconise small changes
#875 [11:18] <wonder_> why does minecraft have to have problems the day i buy it!??! ZZZZZZZZZZ
#876 [11:19] <bacon> wildcards, wildcards everywhere
#877 [11:19] <Kealper> hmm....i should have it recognize "problem"
#878 [11:19] <KillSpammer> wonder_, only AuBot can answer that
#879 [11:19] <KillSpammer> and minecraft
#880 [11:19] <KillSpammer> Kealper
#881 [11:19] * KillSpammer realises kealper is on fire
#881 [11:19] <bacon> wonder_: You bought the game in alpha/beta knowing that it would have bugs
#882 [11:19] <xolotl> Kealper: Really you should just have it respond whenever someone DOESN'T have a keyword in their line. :)
#883 [11:20] <xolotl> like "sausages" or something.
#884 [11:20] <Kealper> xD
#885 [11:20] <bacon> also Kealper, flames coming out of your mouth
#886 [11:20] <Kealper> bacon: that's how i roll
#887 [11:20] <wonder_> bacon: sure, but the day i buy it, their changing servers... kinda bad luck
#888 [11:20] <wonder_> not saying anything else about it
#889 [11:20] <bacon> and down your o-soph-agus
#890 [11:20] <KillSpammer> Yes wonder_
#891 [11:20] <KillSpammer> It is bad luck
#892 [11:21] <KillSpammer> wonder_, if you keep trying you may be able to login
#893 [11:21] <KillSpammer> Thus enabling you to play singleplayer
#894 [11:22] <Kealper> man..that line that listens for keywords is getting pretty unruley already
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#897 [11:23] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#898 [11:23] <Kealper> ok...someone just ask a question about the recent problem we're all having
#899 [11:23] <xolotl> Why can't I log into my server?!!?
#900 [11:24] <mbentley> why does minecraft.net suck at the internets?
#901 [11:24] <Kealper> hmm....that should have detected that
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#903 [11:25] <Kealper> minecraft log on
#904 [11:26] <Kealper> hmm....i broke it
#905 [11:26] <Cial> hey guys
#906 [11:26] <bacon> minecraft
#907 [11:27] <bacon> log
#908 [11:27] <Cial> some friends of mine are trying to set up a lan server but we have verify names off but when one connects the other gets disconnected
#909 [11:27] <bacon> server
#910 [11:29] <KillSpammer> Why cant i login?
#911 [11:29] <KillSpammer> Is minecraft.net down?
#912 [11:29] <KillSpammer> Minecraft.net
#913 [11:30] <Kealper> it's totally broke right now, i've got that part of the code in a separate test program to check it locally...easier
#914 [11:30] <KillSpammer> Lol
#915 [11:31] <Cial> KillSpammer: yea minecraft is kinda sickly atm
#916 [11:31] <KillSpammer> Lol Cial
#917 [11:31] <KillSpammer> I know :)
#918 [11:32] <Cial> oh ok, but yea any way to get a server going in offline mode that will allow people
#919 [11:32] <KillSpammer> Not really
#920 [11:32] <Cial> damnit
#921 [11:32] <KillSpammer> It checks minecraft.net i think
#922 [11:32] <KillSpammer> Perhaps you could do some modding?
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#925 [11:34] <mbentley> Cial: if they can login at the initial client screen, then they should be able to connect to your server with their actual username
#926 [11:34] <lukegb> mbentley: well, it might be up at first
#927 [11:34] <lukegb> mbentley: then fail the check
#928 [11:34] <Cial> mbentley: yea but the authication server is kinda dead
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#930 [11:34] <mbentley> i was able to login initially to the client (login before the menu screen)
#931 [11:35] <mbentley> then if your server is in offline mode, you should be able to connect
#932 [11:35] <KillSpammer> Uhh
#933 [11:35] <Cial> but
#934 [11:35] <KillSpammer> They could use a cracked client?
#935 [11:35] <KillSpammer> And you turn off verify names off
#936 [11:35] <Cial> hmm
#937 [11:35] <Cial> but they show up as "player"
#938 [11:36] <Cial> and when another "player" logs in the other gets kicjed
#939 [11:36] <Cial> *kicked
#940 [11:36] <KillSpammer> Actually
#941 [11:36] <KillSpammer> They can set there names with some cleints
#942 [11:36] <KillSpammer> If not they get Player61243 or another random number :S
#943 [11:37] <Cial> hmmm
#944 [11:37] <Cial> so for now untill the server gets fixed we need a cracked client then? :/ damn
#945 [11:38] <mbentley> i don't see where you are coming to that conclusion
#946 [11:38] <Cial> im trying to translate KillSpammer's vague text
#947 [11:39] <KillSpammer> Lol
#948 [11:39] <KillSpammer> Well you dont
#949 [11:39] <mbentley> are you not able to open the client and have it authenticate your username?
#950 [11:39] <Cial> blar i hate getting up at 5 am it makes thinking fuzzzy
#951 [11:39] <mbentley> i was just able to do it twice in a row
#952 [11:40] <KillSpammer> If they can get in offline it might work like that
#953 [11:40] <mbentley> not talking about logging into a server
#954 [11:40] <Cial> mbentley, well it wasnt working earlier on our server
#955 [11:40] <mbentley> on my test server, i turned online-mode to false and i can login as 'mbentley'
#956 [11:40] <Cial> afk im gonna go to the comp with the server
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#958 [11:42] <Cial> for SMP
#959 [11:43] <Cial> is your client verified?
#960 [11:44] <mbentley> what do you mean by client verified?
#961 [11:44] <Cial> -_-
#962 [11:44] <Cial> the minecraft client for beta
#963 [11:44] <mbentley> i can start the client, login where it asks for my username and password (it takes a few seconds, but it works)
#964 [11:44] <mbentley> assuming that is what you mean
#965 [11:44] <Cial> well ours is not]
#966 [11:44] <Cial> damn
#967 [11:45] <mbentley> then i connect to my server which is set to 'online-mode=false'. and i am given my normal username, not player
#968 [11:46] <Cial> well our problem is that the authentication server is not letting us log in
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#970 [11:46] <Cial> -_- NAH FUCKING SHIT
#971 [11:46] <Cial> damn bot
#972 [11:46] <bacon> can anyone connect to minecraft
#973 [11:46] <KillSpammer> Well cial
#974 [11:46] <KillSpammer> YOu could login and make your name an op
#975 [11:46] <mbentley> i was just able to...
#976 [11:47] <KillSpammer> If you went offline on the client
#977 [11:47] <KillSpammer> And tried to connect
#978 [11:47] <KillSpammer> It might work
#979 [11:47] <KillSpammer> If verify names are off and such
#980 [11:47] <Cial> we are on the op list for the server
#981 [11:47] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#982 [11:47] <Kealper> ok...trying this again
#983 [11:47] <Kealper> hey guys, why does the website not work?
#984 [11:48] <feenyx> what's up with minecraft
#985 [11:48] <mbentley> why does minecraft.net make me want to club baby seals?
#986 [11:48] <feenyx> what's up with minecraft.net
#987 [11:48] <KillSpammer> I cant login
#988 [11:48] <bacon> why is minecraft not working
#989 [11:48] <feenyx> hm
#990 [11:48] <KillSpammer> Minecraft not working?
#991 [11:48] <bacon> i cant connect to the minecraft
#992 [11:48] <KillSpammer> I cannot play multiplayer
#993 [11:48] <feenyx> servers down?
#994 [11:48] <Kealper> ugh brb
#995 [11:48] <mbentley> sudo minecraft not working?
#996 [11:48] <feenyx> rofl
#997 [11:48] <KillSpammer> ROFL
#998 [11:48] <KillSpammer> Fail
#999 [11:49] <KillSpammer> hey guys, why does the website not work?
#1000 [11:49] <feenyx> sudo why can't I log in?
#1001 [11:49] <mbentley> sudo AuBot make me a sammich
#1002 [11:49] <bacon> why cant i connect to teh minecrafts
#1003 [11:49] <KillSpammer> Hey guys, is minecraft down?
#1004 [11:49] * bacon does noob versions
#1004 [11:49] <KillSpammer> Hey guys, is bacon tasty?
#1005 [11:49] <bacon> can any1 join the minecraft.net website?
#1006 [11:49] <feenyx> bacon is indeed tasty
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#1008 [11:49] <bacon> uh oh
#1009 [11:50] * KillSpammer eats bacon after cooking him
#1009 [11:50] <bacon> time to transform
#1010 [11:50] <Kealper> i'll have to add more crap to it's detection stuff when i get back, gotta go afk now :/
#1011 [11:50] <KillSpammer> To late bacon
#1012 [11:50] <KillSpammer> You have been eatten
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#1017 [11:53] <mib_ytfr9q> hi all :)
#1018 [11:53] <mbentley> hi mib_ytfr9q
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#1020 [11:53] <mib_ytfr9q> is the purchase servers down atm?
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#1022 [11:53] <mbentley> pretty much mib_ytfr9q
#1023 [11:54] <mib_ytfr9q> ah okay :) just bought and w8ting for some kind of activation :)
#1024 [11:54] <nightbacon> Kealper: server*down
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#1027 [11:55] <mib_ytfr9q> does any 1 know here when the servers are comming back up again?
#1028 [11:55] <mbentley> no
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#1030 [11:55] <feenyx> mib_ytfr9q: keep an eye on notch.tumblr.com
#1031 [11:55] <mbentley> they are online but very slow
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#1033 [11:55] <Stomper> hey.
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#1035 [11:56] <mib_ytfr9q> ah okay. cant wait! ;D
#1036 [11:56] <Kyle> I have a question. I am thinking about getting minecraft. I read "Please note that when you buy the game, you're paying for the game as it is right now!" Does that mean i wont get free updates between the release of the final game?
#1037 [11:57] <feenyx> Kyle: you'll get every update there is
#1038 [11:57] <mib_ytfr9q> you will get the updates as they come along
#1039 [11:57] <xolotl> Kyle: You will get free updates, including the final game, etc
#1040 [11:57] <feenyx> but you don't get to whine when stuff is buggy :p
#1041 [11:57] <opus> I like horses
#1042 [11:58] <feenyx> there's butter on my face
#1043 [11:58] <Jedi-Mocro> Where should I paste the Crashreports?
#1044 [11:58] <nightbacon> opus: they always seem sad to me. long face and all
#1045 [11:58] <Kyle> xolotl: oh. lol. i wouldnt have done that anyway. :P thanks for the advice. should i try to buy it now with the server move going on, or should i wait till they are more stable..
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#1047 [11:58] <mib_ytfr9q> you should w8. i bought it 10 min ago and am still waiting
#1048 [11:59] <xolotl> Kyle: yeah, definitely wait a bit
#1049 [11:59] <Jedi-Mocro> Where should I paste the Crashreports?
#1050 [11:59] <Kyle> alright. whatdaya think? 20 mins? an hour? tomorrow? estimate for when the site is back?
#1051 [11:59] <xolotl> Kyle: If it were me I'd wait until tomorrow, to be honest
#1052 [11:59] <KillSpammer> Tommorow proberly
#1053 [12:00] <Jedi-Mocro> NO ONE?
#1054 [12:00] <KillSpammer> Or 12 hours :S
#1055 [12:00] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1056 [12:00] <feenyx> Jedi-Mocro: pastebin. Always.
#1057 [12:00] <Jedi-Mocro> ok
#1058 [12:00] <KillSpammer> Jedi: pastebin.com
#1059 [12:00] <Jedi-Mocro> yeah, I know
#1060 [12:00] <Kyle> Alright. thanks for the advice everyone.
#1061 [12:00] <Jedi-Mocro> just wanted to know if I had to mail it.
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#1063 [12:00] <Jedi-Mocro> oh, suppoert@mojang.com
#1064 [12:00] <Jedi-Mocro> fuck it, here: the pastebin
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#1066 [12:01] <Jedi-Mocro> http://pastebin.com/00HcCcV9
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#1069 [12:01] <Jedi-Mocro> oops
#1070 [12:01] <Jedi-Mocro> Cmd-W sucks
#1071 [12:01] <DousedTark> Ey
#1072 [12:01] <Jedi-Mocro> http://pastebin.com/00HcCcV9 if you diodn't et it
#1073 [12:03] <feenyx> I'm not a mac buff, but it seems the crash logs are hinting towards problems with OpenGL. Are you running the latest video card drivers?
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#1075 [12:04] <DousedTark> Is Minecraft down? sorry im new in the game.
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#1077 [12:04] <bacon> yes, we used ropes
#1078 [12:05] <bacon> Spiked ropes.
#1079 [12:06] <xolotl> DousedTark: Yeah, the auth servers are very problematic at the moment
#1080 [12:06] <xolotl> heh
#1081 [12:06] <xolotl> botfail
#1082 [12:06] <DousedTark> Oh thanks
#1083 [12:07] <lukegb> Auth servers
#1084 [12:07] <xolotl> auth servers problem
#1085 [12:07] <xolotl> hm
#1086 [12:07] <lukegb> Aha
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#1088 [12:07] <xolotl> aha!
#1089 [12:07] <DousedTark> This morning I bought the game
#1090 [12:07] <lukegb> auth serverd
#1091 [12:07] <lukegb> auth servers jd
#1092 [12:07] <froglegstew> hey guys
#1093 [12:07] <lukegb> problem
#1094 [12:07] <lukegb> gah
#1095 [12:08] <froglegstew> soo.. i have a problem
#1096 [12:08] <lukegb> auth problem
#1097 [12:09] <froglegstew> no
#1098 [12:09] <lukegb> auth servers problem
#1099 [12:09] <froglegstew> ill explain
#1100 [12:09] <lukegb> there we go :P
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#1103 [12:09] <DousedTark> This morning I have bought Minecraft, but since they me have not sent anything I nor could have played I believed that it was a mistake in the pay of the game
#1104 [12:09] <xolotl> DousedTark: It'll get taken care of eventually
#1105 [12:09] <feenyx> DousedTark: if you have a paypal receipt, it's only a matter of time before you get an activation receipt aswell
#1106 [12:10] <xolotl> DousedTark: Their servers were having some major issues a couple of days ago and they're still doing a server move to take care of it
#1107 [12:10] <froglegstew> i paid 15 euro for this shit, and all i got was a game that crashes every 5mins. It also just now gave me a bluescreen and i LOST my save for the world i have been working on for the last week!!
#1108 [12:10] <xolotl> DousedTark: So lots of things are fubar'd at the moment.
#1109 [12:10] <froglegstew> how do i get my money back?
#1110 [12:10] <lukegb> froglegstew: do I paypal chargeback
#1111 [12:10] <lukegb> *a
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#1113 [12:10] <xolotl> froglegstew: You can mail payments@minecraft.net (I believe, might just be "payment")
#1114 [12:10] <xolotl> froglegstew: Or what lukegb suggested
#1115 [12:10] <xolotl> froglegstew: You're mostly the victim of bad timing though
#1116 [12:11] <xolotl> froglegstew: Their current issues should hopefully be resolved within a day or so
#1117 [12:11] <froglegstew> hmm..
#1118 [12:11] <DousedTark> xolotl, I didnt pay with Paypal, I used the Visa
#1119 [12:11] <froglegstew> would those problems give me a bluescreen?
#1120 [12:11] <lukegb> DousedTark: but PayPal did the charging, iirc
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#1122 [12:12] <bacon> <esper_ufhabb> black screen how to solve
#1123 [12:12] <xolotl> froglegstew: I guess your problems do sound like something else
#1124 [12:12] <KillSpammer> Minecraft.net
#1125 [12:12] <KillSpammer> erm...
#1126 [12:12] <bacon> why do people ask about minecraft in #help
#1127 [12:12] <lukegb> DousedTark: so PayPal tries to ping the 'someone paid!' URL, but it doesn't work
#1128 [12:12] <KillSpammer> Is minecraft.net down?
#1129 [12:12] <KillSpammer> Lol
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#1131 [12:12] <lukegb> DousedTark: so your account doesn't get marked as paid
#1132 [12:12] <xolotl> froglegstew: At any rate, you should hopefully have better luck getting ahold of somebody in a day or two
#1133 [12:12] <DousedTark> Then has my money lost?
#1134 [12:13] <i81u812> are squid rare I havent seen one since the update?
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#1136 [12:13] <froglegstew> ah well.. thanks for the anwsers:)
#1137 [12:13] <xolotl> i81u812: I see them fairly often
#1138 [12:13] <neobenedict> OH WAIT HOW MANT MC CHANNELS ARE THERE I'm confused
#1139 [12:13] <xolotl> i81u812: They look quite pretty swimming above the windows in my aquadome complex
#1140 [12:13] <neobenedict> do horizontal doors exist
#1141 [12:13] <neobenedict> at all
#1142 [12:13] <neobenedict> in any way
#1143 [12:13] <neobenedict> eg. trapdoor
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#1145 [12:13] <esper_ufhabb> hi
#1146 [12:13] <xolotl> neobenedict: Not really, no
#1147 [12:14] <xolotl> neobenedict: You can build some traps w/ redstone+sand+water+torches
#1148 [12:14] <esper_ufhabb> someone help me ?
#1149 [12:14] <KillSpammer> #minecraft #minecrafthelp #mcchatter #hey0 #bukkit #mccadmin And a shitload of others
#1150 [12:14] <DousedTark> xolotl, I have lost my money?
#1151 [12:14] <neobenedict> is there a way to make a block move?
#1152 [12:14] <Kealper> rawr....looks like i was able to use ssh where i'm at atm lol
#1153 [12:14] <KillSpammer> #minecraft #minecrafthelp #mcchatter are the offical ones
#1154 [12:14] <xolotl> DousedTark: No, though it may be in "limbo" so to speak at the moment. Once their servers are back on their feet things should go through
#1155 [12:14] <esper_ufhabb> kealper
#1156 [12:14] <Kealper> yessir?
#1157 [12:14] <DousedTark> Oh hehe
#1158 [12:14] <DousedTark> Thanks for all :)
#1159 [12:14] <esper_ufhabb> my mc black screen how to solve
#1160 [12:15] <KillSpammer> esper_ufhabb, uhh you using mods?
#1161 [12:15] <esper_ufhabb> yah
#1162 [12:15] <DousedTark> Have you witness of when it will turn everything to the normality?
#1163 [12:15] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#1164 [12:15] <i81u812> ok well where am I most liekly to find them deep water?
#1165 [12:15] <esper_ufhabb> the mod porblem?
#1166 [12:15] <KillSpammer> Delete the Meta-Inf file in the minecraft.jar
#1167 [12:15] <i81u812> likly
#1168 [12:15] <i81u812> damnit
#1169 [12:15] <froglegstew> does anyone have any idea on to why my saved world got deleted?
#1170 [12:15] <KillSpammer> If that doesnt work screw mods and reinstall minecraft
#1171 [12:15] <KillSpammer> !reinstall
#1172 [12:15] <KillSpammer> Erm..
#1173 [12:15] <KillSpammer> Damnit
#1174 [12:16] <esper_ufhabb> i using mod which is 1.1_02 my mc also that version so no have Meta-Inf
#1175 [12:16] <Kealper> i call shenanigans, esper_ufhabb is on a dedi or a vps
#1176 [12:16] <esper_ufhabb> dedi??
#1177 [12:16] <Kealper> his ip doesn't resolve to a name, gents, we're being trolled
#1178 [12:16] <esper_ufhabb> vps??
#1179 [12:16] <esper_ufhabb> what is that
#1180 [12:16] <neobenedict> <+xolotl> neobenedict: You can build some traps w/ redstone+sand+water+torches
#1181 [12:16] <neobenedict> for dramatic effect on a rollercoaster
#1182 [12:16] <neobenedict> ie. think a track is about to go up
#1183 [12:16] <neobenedict> oops
#1184 [12:17] <neobenedict> wheee
#1185 [12:17] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1186 [12:17] <DousedTark> when it will turn everything to the normality?
#1187 [12:17] <KillSpammer> I thought so
#1188 [12:17] <esper_ufhabb> no have solution?
#1189 [12:17] <KillSpammer> His other messages seem smart but his dumbass first question seemed trollish
#1190 [12:17] <froglegstew> does anyone have any idea on to why my saved world got deleted after bluescreen?
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#1192 [12:17] <froglegstew> or how, if possible to get it back?
#1193 [12:18] <esper_ufhabb> nvm bye thank for help
#1194 [12:19] <DousedTark> when it will turn everything to the normality?
#1195 [12:19] <KillSpammer> DousedTark, proberly tommorow
#1196 [12:19] <xolotl> froglegstew: Your singleplayer saves are stored in %appdata%/.minecraft/WorldX - check to see if there's anything in the world directory you're interested in
#1197 [12:19] <Kealper> oh....malaysia...whoops, he was either legitly needing help, or was seriously trying hard to troll us
#1198 [12:19] <DousedTark> Ok :)
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#1200 [12:21] <froglegstew> i checked that file and its empty..
#1201 [12:21] <froglegstew> now atleast, after the crash
#1202 [12:23] <KillSpammer> It look likes you didnt actually quit and save it before the quit
#1203 [12:23] <KillSpammer> Did you generate that world and bluescreen before you saved it?
#1204 [12:23] <froglegstew> i've played that world for a week:(
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#1206 [12:25] <Kealper> wait, what happened?
#1207 [12:25] <Kealper> he was playing and his computer crashed, and now his game is empty?
#1208 [12:25] <froglegstew> yes
#1209 [12:25] <froglegstew> i got bluescreeen..
#1210 [12:26] <xolotl> Oh oh, a whole system crash
#1211 [12:26] <Kealper> oh, then your map is probably lost for good :/
#1212 [12:26] <neobenedict> http://i.imgur.com/vL7e2.png
#1213 [12:26] * xolotl thought it was just Minecraft that crashed
#1213 [12:26] <neobenedict> umad?
#1214 [12:26] <neobenedict> wait
#1215 [12:26] <neobenedict> the site is back up
#1216 [12:26] <xolotl> Yeah, that's probably due to the system crash then; probably not much you can do about that.
#1217 [12:26] <neobenedict> the site is back up
#1218 [12:26] <neobenedict> ish
#1219 [12:26] <froglegstew> and my guess is that its because of minecraft.. havent had it befor, and the game it selfe has crashed alot
#1220 [12:26] <Kealper> the site has been upish for the last few days
#1221 [12:26] <neobenedict> no like
#1222 [12:26] <neobenedict> consecutive refreshes
#1223 [12:26] <neobenedict> no timeouts
#1224 [12:27] <Jedi-Mocro> How come a friend of mine can log in, but I can;t?
#1225 [12:27] <Kealper> oh
#1226 [12:27] <Jedi-Mocro> WHAT THE FUCK MAN, I'M WAITING 2 DAYS NOW, I WANNA PLAy
#1227 [12:27] <neobenedict> offline
#1228 [12:27] <Kealper> calm down there, killer
#1229 [12:27] <xolotl> Jedi-Mocro: Just wait a bit more; stuff is propagating probably
#1230 [12:27] <Jedi-Mocro> no, I want to play online
#1231 [12:27] <Jedi-Mocro> he plays offline
#1232 [12:27] <Jedi-Mocro> Also: Awesome mod: http://www.dejimachan.org/b/src/129554284939.png
#1233 [12:28] * Kealper grumbles
#1233 [12:28] <Jedi-Mocro> lol
#1234 [12:28] <Kealper> someone else click on that and tell me if it's NSFW
#1235 [12:28] <neobenedict> sfw
#1236 [12:28] <xolotl> Kealper: it's fine
#1237 [12:28] <Jedi-Mocro> it's SFW
#1238 [12:28] <xolotl> Kealper: Just a texturepack
#1239 [12:28] <neobenedict> inb4clicksanditstits
#1240 [12:29] <Kealper> i'm still not going to click it, i was just asking if i should kick him for offensive material
#1241 [12:29] <KillSpammer> NO!
#1242 [12:29] <KillSpammer> ITs not
#1243 [12:29] <KillSpammer> ITS GOT DIAMOND IN IT
#1244 [12:29] <neobenedict> its fine
#1245 [12:29] <KillSpammer> SO MUCH SEXY DIAMOND!
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#1247 [12:29] <neobenedict> where
#1248 [12:29] <neobenedict> i see no diamond
#1249 [12:29] <KillSpammer> Diamond pick!
#1250 [12:29] <neobenedict> of
#1251 [12:29] <Jedi-Mocro> Kealper: u mad?
#1252 [12:29] <neobenedict> oh
#1253 [12:29] <neobenedict> lol
#1254 [12:29] <Jedi-Mocro> YAY, I"M IN
#1255 [12:30] <Jedi-Mocro> ONE HAPPY MOCRO HERE
#1256 [12:30] <Jedi-Mocro> L:D
#1257 [12:30] * xolotl wishes that the terrain generation algorithms would attempt to "stitch" in terrain generated by pre-Halloween stuffs
#1257 [12:30] <Kealper> does anyone else get annoyed by "umad" stuff or is that just me?
#1258 [12:30] <Jedi-Mocro> ...... another crash....
#1259 [12:30] <Jedi-Mocro> minecraft, y u crsh so much?
#1260 [12:31] <xolotl> Kealper: heh, I have low-level annoyance at most abbreviations commonly found on internet chat. I've developed pretty decent internal blinders though. :)
#1261 [12:31] <Kealper> xolotl: same, but that "umad" crap bugs me to no end
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#1263 [12:31] <Kealper> bacon: GG
#1264 [12:31] <KillSpammer> Omg?
#1265 [12:32] <KillSpammer> Bacon gets voice?
#1266 [12:32] <KillSpammer> :(
#1267 [12:32] <KillSpammer> Kealper i helpz in here can i have bacon?
#1268 [12:32] <KillSpammer> I mean
#1269 [12:32] <KillSpammer> Voice
#1270 [12:32] <Kealper> bacon is ConMan, and he's been here for ages now
#1271 [12:32] <KillSpammer> Bacon - Excess flood?
#1272 [12:32] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1273 [12:32] <KillSpammer> i didnt even know :(
#1274 [12:32] <KillSpammer> I thought he was some random popular guy
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#1276 [12:33] <Beharede> Test
#1277 [12:33] <Kealper> Test?
#1278 [12:33] <Beharede> Ye
#1279 [12:34] <Beharede> Does anyone know how to make a picture linking?
#1280 [12:34] <Beharede> In forum sig
#1281 [12:34] <bacon> with [img] tags
#1282 [12:34] <xolotl> Beharede: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bbcode+reference
#1283 [12:34] <Kealper> [url=http://example.com][img]http://example.com/image.jpg[/img][/url]
#1284 [12:35] <neobenedict> <KillSpammer> Omg?
#1285 [12:35] <neobenedict> <KillSpammer> Bacon gets voice?
#1286 [12:35] <neobenedict> <KillSpammer> :(
#1287 [12:35] <neobenedict> <KillSpammer> Kealper i helpz in here can i have bacon?
#1288 [12:35] <neobenedict> <KillSpammer> I mean
#1289 [12:35] <neobenedict> <KillSpammer> Voice
#1290 [12:35] <Kealper> holy crap spam
#1291 [12:35] <neobenedict> begging for voice = no voice
#1292 [12:35] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1293 [12:35] <neobenedict> soz
#1294 [12:35] <Beharede> Ok
#1295 [12:35] <KillSpammer> I love how i said bacon
#1296 [12:35] <neobenedict> lul
#1297 [12:36] <KillSpammer> Anyway
#1298 [12:36] <Kealper> lol
#1299 [12:36] <KillSpammer> i was just jokinz
#1300 [12:36] <neobenedict> .
#1301 [12:36] * neobenedict yawns
#1301 [12:36] * bacon somehow manages the feat of innocent whistlist
#1301 [12:36] <bacon> whistling..
#1302 [12:36] <Kealper> lol
#1303 [12:36] <neobenedict> what does voice even give you
#1304 [12:36] <neobenedict> like
#1305 [12:36] <bacon> I'm very typo..ey today/yesterday
#1306 [12:36] <KillSpammer> Well
#1307 [12:36] <neobenedict> a +
#1308 [12:36] <neobenedict> that it
#1309 [12:36] <KillSpammer> You can talk when the channel is +m
#1310 [12:37] <neobenedict> which never happens
#1311 [12:37] <KillSpammer> And you get your name up the tops
#1312 [12:37] <neobenedict> rite?
#1313 [12:37] <neobenedict> rite.
#1314 [12:37] <KillSpammer> Rite
#1315 [12:37] <KillSpammer> :)
#1316 [12:37] <neobenedict> I know
#1317 [12:37] <neobenedict> hm
#1318 [12:37] <KillSpammer> Voice is cool though
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#1320 [12:37] <neobenedict> -ChanServ- Permission denied. <- yep, just making sure there wasn't a security hole
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#1322 [12:38] <Kealper> it wasn't
#1323 [12:38] <neobenedict> :3
#1324 [12:38] * neobenedict idles
#1324 [12:38] <Kealper> users on the vop list (auto voice through chanserv) can voice people
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#1327 [12:38] <neobenedict> Hm, thats new
#1328 [12:38] <neobenedict> Wait, perhaps not
#1329 [12:39] <KillSpammer> Anyway Kealper
#1330 [12:39] <Kealper> still doesn't make up for the fact that this network doesn't have halfops -.-
#1331 [12:39] <neobenedict> *channels hes been voiced on have tight security*
#1332 [12:39] <KillSpammer> How does one get voice legit?
#1333 [12:39] <neobenedict> xD
#1334 [12:39] <neobenedict> er
#1335 [12:39] <neobenedict> following rules?
#1336 [12:39] <neobenedict> helping?
#1337 [12:39] <neobenedict> etc
#1338 [12:39] <Kealper> an op has to deem you worthy of voice
#1339 [12:39] <neobenedict> good knowledge of irc
#1340 [12:39] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#1341 [12:40] <KillSpammer> I help, I dont follow rules much though
#1342 [12:40] <KillSpammer> :)
#1343 [12:40] <KillSpammer> Ive been banned once from this channel
#1344 [12:40] <KillSpammer> 1 hr ban
#1345 [12:40] <KillSpammer> 2 kicks i believe
#1346 [12:40] <neobenedict> how you get moderator status on forums
#1347 [12:40] <neobenedict> that was a statement
#1348 [12:40] <neobenedict> not a question btw
#1349 [12:40] <neobenedict> <neobenedict> how you get moderator status on forums
#1350 [12:40] <Kealper> neobenedict: putting your mouth around certain body parts of the forum admins
#1351 [12:40] <KillSpammer> #minecraft - 24hr ban and about 4 kicks
#1352 [12:40] <Kealper> oh
#1353 [12:40] <xolotl> KillSpammer: what, like the forehead?
#1354 [12:40] <xolotl> weird.
#1355 [12:40] <neobenedict> The knee?
#1356 [12:41] <xolotl> er, that was meant to go to Kealper; damn autocomplete
#1357 [12:41] <Kealper> highlight fail
#1358 [12:41] <KillSpammer> LOL
#1359 [12:41] <KillSpammer> Its Ke and K for me
#1360 [12:41] <neobenedict> Kealper
#1361 [12:41] <neobenedict> k goes to Kealper
#1362 [12:41] <Kealper> depends
#1363 [12:41] <neobenedict> your irc is messed up
#1364 [12:41] <xolotl> "Okay, okay, I will make you a mod if you quit sucking on my forehead! Sheesh!"
#1365 [12:41] <xolotl> I can see that working
#1366 [12:41] <KillSpammer> Xchat gives me all the names of people with K
#1367 [12:41] <neobenedict> d e f g h i
#1368 [12:41] <KillSpammer> Also
#1369 [12:42] <KillSpammer> If you get a name you can always autocomplete again
#1370 [12:42] <neobenedict> what if the mods are underage though?
#1371 [12:42] <neobenedict> sucking on foreheads is illegal iirc
#1372 [12:42] <neobenedict> if you're under 18
#1373 [12:42] <neobenedict> .
#1374 [12:42] <KillSpammer> Ok
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#1376 [12:42] <Kealper> lol
#1377 [12:42] <KillSpammer> Now to go get mod on the forum
#1378 [12:43] <neobenedict> we can all sense you want it, KillSpammer
#1379 [12:43] <neobenedict> power
#1380 [12:43] <KillSpammer> citricsquid can we go to your house?
#1381 [12:43] <KillSpammer> Meh neobenedict
#1382 [12:43] <KillSpammer> I am mod and such on heaps of forums
#1383 [12:44] <neobenedict> i am an admin on a forum
#1384 [12:44] <neobenedict> the root admin
#1385 [12:44] <neobenedict> co-root admin actually
#1386 [12:44] <neobenedict> founder
#1387 [12:44] <neobenedict> blargh
#1388 [12:44] <neobenedict> but the forum is half dead
#1389 [12:44] <neobenedict> names of said forums?
#1390 [12:45] * neobenedict watches as the channel goes silent
#1390 [12:45] * Kealper chuckles at the pissing contest
#1390 [12:45] * neobenedict falls off sear laughing
#1390 [12:45] * neobenedict seat*
#1390 [12:45] * neobenedict doesn't break the combo of pink text
#1390 [12:46] <neobenedict> c-c-combo breaker!
#1391 [12:46] <Kealper> pink text?
#1392 [12:46] <neobenedict> er
#1393 [12:46] <KillSpammer> Has to become afk
#1394 [12:46] <Kealper> eew....mirc
#1395 [12:46] <neobenedict> the me
#1396 [12:46] <neobenedict> <3
#1397 [12:46] <neobenedict> mirc
#1398 [12:46] <Kealper> <3 irssi
#1399 [12:46] <Beharede> The text is red?
#1400 [12:46] * neobenedict windozes
#1400 [12:46] <neobenedict> seven
#1401 [12:47] * neobenedict pats his i7-950 computer
#1401 [12:47] * neobenedict burns self
#1401 [12:47] <neobenedict> *should stop running BC2, portal and minecraft at the same time*
#1402 [12:47] <Kealper> i hate intel :/
#1403 [12:47] <neobenedict> overpriced shit
#1404 [12:47] <neobenedict> but faaast
#1405 [12:47] <neobenedict> cpus
#1406 [12:48] <neobenedict> not mobos
#1407 [12:48] <neobenedict> and laptops
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#1410 [12:48] <neobenedict> antec 1200 care
#1411 [12:48] <neobenedict> case
#1412 [12:48] <Kealper> yeah, they may be good, but their price/performance ratio is garbage
#1413 [12:48] <neobenedict> gtx 460 1gb
#1414 [12:48] <neobenedict> ik
#1415 [12:48] <neobenedict> bit like eh
#1416 [12:48] <neobenedict> *thinks*
#1417 [12:48] <Kealper> so for that reason, amd wins my heart :P
#1418 [12:48] <neobenedict> .
#1419 [12:49] <neobenedict> :P
#1420 [12:49] <neobenedict> since its the only other option
#1421 [12:49] <Kealper> i've always been an amd fanboy lol
#1422 [12:49] <neobenedict> got intel for the motherboard
#1423 [12:49] <neobenedict> ga-x58a-ud3r
#1424 [12:49] <Beharede> Do you guys have any texture packs?
#1425 [12:49] <Kealper> my current is a biostar......it was cheap....lol
#1426 [12:50] <Beharede> And what sort do you prefer?
#1427 [12:50] <neobenedict> if they had the exact same speced mobo for the same price for amd
#1428 [12:50] <neobenedict> I would have got a x6
#1429 [12:50] <KillSpammer> Beharede, perhaps what would you pay for one?
#1430 [12:50] <neobenedict> lol
#1431 [12:50] <Beharede> I'm making my own. lol
#1432 [12:50] <Kealper> Beharede: i like Quandary, but i don't think it's updated with the new stuff atm
#1433 [12:50] <KillSpammer> Its $3 to make one
#1434 [12:50] <Beharede> Never heard of
#1435 [12:51] <Kealper> it's basically a revamp of the original textures, not a complete overhaul
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#1437 [12:53] <Beharede> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=146649&p=2098419#p2098419
#1438 [12:53] <Beharede> Look at this one
#1439 [12:53] <Beharede> I really like it
#1440 [12:53] * Kealper can't look at those atm
#1440 [12:54] <Beharede> Why not?
#1441 [12:54] <Kealper> dns filters on the internet i'm at right now
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#1443 [12:54] <Beharede> http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1453/softalpack11.png
#1444 [12:55] <Beharede> Look at the picture then
#1445 [12:55] <Kealper> meh
#1446 [12:55] <Beharede> Looks good?
#1447 [12:56] <Kealper> i don't particularly like the grass, but the cobblestone looks nice
#1448 [12:56] <Kealper> it'd be nice for building castles lol
#1449 [12:56] <Beharede> You don't like the grass? I love it :D
#1450 [12:56] <Beharede> Those dark spots will be edited though
#1451 [12:57] <Kealper> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gasoline+gypsy <-- epic band that i went to school with/was in guitar class with
#1452 [12:59] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1453 [12:59] <KillSpammer> Kealper
#1454 [12:59] <Kealper> hmm?
#1455 [12:59] <KillSpammer> Keep in contact with them
#1456 [12:59] <KillSpammer> They may become rich :)
#1457 [12:59] <Kealper> i was talking to one of them recently lol
#1458 [12:59] <Kealper> i wish they'd make more songs though, they are really good
#1459 [12:59] <Beharede> Is there another channel for Minecraft chatting?
#1460 [13:00] <Kealper> #mchatter or #minecraft
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#1462 [13:00] <Kealper> #mcchatter*
#1463 [13:00] <bacon> frankenstein texture pack
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#1465 [13:00] <KillSpammer> Is there a channel for that ban?
#1466 [13:00] <KillSpammer> d
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#1468 [13:00] <Kealper> KillSpammer: lol
#1469 [13:01] <genshou> ^_^
#1470 [13:01] * genshou climbs on top of Kealper and looks around
#1470 [13:02] <Beharede> Why can't i type in #minecraft?
#1471 [13:02] <Kealper> O.o
#1472 [13:02] <KillSpammer> Register
#1473 [13:02] <Kealper> Beharede: register with nickserv
#1474 [13:02] * KillSpammer climbs on top of genshou and looks around
#1474 [13:02] <Kealper> type /msg nickserv help register
#1475 [13:02] <KillSpammer> Kealper
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#1477 [13:02] * Kealper collapses under the weight
#1477 [13:02] <KillSpammer> Climb on top of me
#1478 [13:02] * KillSpammer seems to hover in mid air
#1478 [13:02] <Kealper> KillSpammer: that'll be the same effect as googling google
#1479 [13:03] * KillSpammer realises he is dr hax and flys higher
#1479 [13:03] <Kealper> CERN will cave into a black hole and suck up the earth
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#1481 [13:03] <KillSpammer> http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=929&q=google&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&fp=595b62b2c392ffb4
#1482 [13:03] * aetherian is away: school and other such miscellanias
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#1483 [13:06] <dopeghoti> aetherian needs the school if ey cannot spell miscellaneous.
#1484 [13:06] <Kealper> lol
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#1488 [13:16] <aetherian> I just woke up, jeez
#1489 [13:16] <Beharede> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=146649&p=2116184#p2116184
#1490 [13:16] <aetherian> besides
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#1492 [13:17] <aetherian> I was making a similarity of mania as well
#1493 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> If you're going to make a portmenteau, do it properly :)
#1494 [13:18] <Kealper> wut
#1495 [13:19] <aetherian> portmenteau?
#1496 [13:19] <aetherian> that doesn't seem right...
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#1498 [13:19] <aetherian> portmanteau?
#1499 [13:20] <aetherian> unless you were blending the word "men" with it.
#1500 [13:20] <aetherian> but I'm away now.
#1501 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: see tautology.
#1502 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: g'morning :)
#1503 [13:23] <Kealper> ello dope
#1504 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> Auth issues persisting?
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#1506 [13:24] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/3Tu97.jpg
#1507 [13:24] <Beharede> Don't like the texture pack
#1508 [13:24] <Beharede> Try this ;D
#1509 [13:24] <Beharede> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=146649&p=2116184#p2116184
#1510 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> me either
#1511 [13:24] <aetherian> kealper: that's enough to make someone paranoid.
#1512 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> nice creeperface image though :)
#1513 [13:25] * KillSpammer is back
#1513 [13:25] <Kealper> isn't mind lol, that was on reddit, the poster claims to have seen that randomly generated on his world
#1514 [13:25] <KillSpammer> Hey DopeGhoti !
#1515 [13:26] <neobenedict> Kealper: dungeon?
#1516 [13:26] <xolotl> Kealper: ha, nice
#1517 [13:26] <neobenedict> theres a vid on yt called "accidently find a dungeon while making a minecraft tutorial"
#1518 [13:27] <neobenedict> dungeon on sufrace
#1519 [13:27] <neobenedict> surface
#1520 [13:27] <xolotl> Notch should add in "fossil" blocks and have extinct megacreeper skeletons buried deep underground
#1521 [13:27] <Kealper> lol
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#1523 [13:27] <Kealper> omg idea
#1524 [13:28] <Kealper> while digging coal, there should be a chance of getting a bone or two from coal ore if you are lower than 30 blocks
#1525 [13:28] <xolotl> yeah
#1526 [13:28] <xolotl> Was thinking along those lines too
#1527 [13:28] <KillSpammer> FFS
#1528 [13:28] <KillSpammer> Manga is so addicting
#1529 [13:29] <neobenedict> OOPS FOUND CHILD PORN
#1530 [13:29] <neobenedict> it was a baby
#1531 [13:29] <neobenedict> on facebook
#1532 [13:29] <xolotl> Would be especially handy for those of us on Peaceful who still want bonemeal
#1533 [13:29] <neobenedict> newly born
#1534 [13:29] <neobenedict> =3
#1535 [13:29] <KillSpammer> neobenedict, holy fuck destroy your hardrive now
#1536 [13:29] <KillSpammer> NOWNOW
#1537 [13:29] <neobenedict> nah kiddin
#1538 [13:29] <neobenedict> well
#1539 [13:29] <neobenedict> it aint cp tbh
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#1541 [13:32] <KillSpammer> Kealper, whats so great about that?
#1542 [13:32] <KillSpammer> Oh wait
#1543 [13:32] <Kealper> eh?
#1544 [13:32] <KillSpammer> <Kealper> isn't mind lol, that was on reddit, the poster claims to have seen that randomly generated on his world
#1545 [13:32] <KillSpammer> Wut?
#1546 [13:32] <KillSpammer> What poster
#1547 [13:33] <Kealper> poster = person who posted a submission
#1548 [13:33] <KillSpammer> Link?
#1549 [13:33] <Kealper> few lines above that, the imgur one
#1550 [13:33] <KillSpammer> Erm
#1551 [13:33] <KillSpammer> Whats so great about that?
#1552 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> The hills have eyessSSSSSsss.
#1553 [13:34] <Kealper> lol
#1554 [13:34] <KillSpammer> Oh creeper face
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#1556 [13:36] <aetherian> keal, how do you find these things o_O
#1557 [13:37] <Kealper> http://reddit.com/r/minecraft
#1558 [13:37] <aetherian> all day every day...
#1559 [13:38] <genshou> I think another hard drive is dying :I
#1560 [13:38] <genshou> can anyone recommend a brand that doesn't consistently die within a few months of purchase?
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#1562 [13:38] <Kealper> i've always liked Seagate
#1563 [13:39] <genshou> that's one of the two I've been having problems with ;<
#1564 [13:39] <mbentley> i've had good luck with western digital and hitachi
#1565 [13:39] <genshou> WD and Seagate
#1566 [13:39] <xolotl> +1 for WD and Seagate as well
#1567 [13:39] <xolotl> Though of course bad luck is bad luck. :)
#1568 [13:39] <mbentley> seagate has been fine for me as well
#1569 [13:39] <genshou> I've never had a hard drive die within two years that wasn't from one of those two companies.
#1570 [13:39] <genshou> but I'm not sure what other companies these days are reliable enough
#1571 [13:39] <genshou> this drive can go ahead and die, really
#1572 [13:40] <genshou> it's been slow as hell since I bought it
#1573 [13:40] <Kealper> Samsung is not too terrible
#1574 [13:40] <genshou> My IDE drive was faster than a SATA 2.0 :I
#1575 [13:40] <genshou> that tells you something's wrong off the bat
#1576 [13:40] <Kealper> i had a Samsung spinpoint or something like that in my laptop, that was decent
#1577 [13:41] <mbentley> i have 5 hitachi 1tb drives in my server and they've been chugging along for some time now
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#1579 [13:44] <mbentley> at least a year and a couple months
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#1582 [13:45] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#1583 [13:45] <KillSpammer> First time ive seen Kane_Hart get dced
#1584 [13:45] <KillSpammer> I do hope that wasnt auto rejoin
#1585 [13:46] <Kealper> eh>
#1586 [13:46] <Kealper> ?*
#1587 [13:46] <mbentley> lulwut?
#1588 [13:46] <KillSpammer> Kane_Hart did you legit rejoin? or auto rejoin?
#1589 [13:46] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1590 [13:46] <mbentley> he timed out and his client reconnected
#1591 [13:46] <KillSpammer> Oh...
#1592 [13:47] <KillSpammer> Why doesnt mine do that :S
#1593 [13:47] <mbentley> because you didn't configure it to do so
#1594 [13:47] <TheReddeH> hilo
#1595 [13:47] <Kealper> KillSpammer: any half-baked irc client will do that
#1596 [13:47] <KillSpammer> WHY NOT!
#1597 [13:47] <KillSpammer> I use xchat :S
#1598 [13:47] <KillSpammer> I did modify settings
#1599 [13:47] <Kealper> oh, that's only quarter-baked
#1600 [13:47] <KillSpammer> I proberly failed and removed that or something
#1601 [13:47] <KillSpammer> What should i use then lol
#1602 [13:48] <Kealper> get yourself a nix shell and get irssi installed on it :P
#1603 [13:48] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#1604 [13:48] <KillSpammer> No
#1605 [13:48] <mbentley> KillSpammer: http://tinyurl.com/4h7uj3g
#1606 [13:48] <mbentley> yay irris
#1607 [13:48] <mbentley> err
#1608 [13:48] <mbentley> irssi
#1609 [13:49] <mbentley> yay spelling
#1610 [13:49] <Kealper> best text-based irc client evar
#1611 [13:49] <mbentley> i don't even use gui clients anymore
#1612 [13:49] <Kealper> irssi is my main client lol
#1613 [13:49] <KillSpammer> I dont need that mbentley
#1614 [13:49] <mbentley> lol KillSpammer
#1615 [13:49] <KillSpammer> I found the option already :S
#1616 [13:49] <mbentley> screen + irssi
#1617 [13:49] <Kealper> indeed
#1618 [13:49] <mbentley> what else do you need? :D
#1619 [13:50] <mbentley> besides some awesome scripts...
#1620 [13:50] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#1621 [13:50] <KillSpammer> Why isnt irssi for windows anyway?
#1622 [13:50] <mbentley> there is an irssi port
#1623 [13:50] <KillSpammer> That i can access how?
#1624 [13:50] <Kealper> it has windows builds, but irssi is made for command line unix OSes
#1625 [13:50] <KillSpammer> Putty?
#1626 [13:51] <Kealper> yea
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#1628 [13:52] <KillSpammer> My friend is making a browser :S
#1629 [13:52] <mbentley> in what?
#1630 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> telnet is the best browser.
#1631 [13:52] <Kealper> i shall not be impressed unless he is actually making his own DOM/renderer
#1632 [13:53] <mbentley> telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
#1633 [13:53] <Kealper> using shell.explorer.2 or whatever COM object is ghetto, even i made one using that lol
#1634 [13:53] <Kealper> mbentley: +1
#1635 [13:54] <KillSpammer> Whats the port and such for it?
#1636 [13:55] <KillSpammer> Im to lazy to google :S
#1637 [13:55] <KillSpammer> Also its in visual basic
#1638 [13:55] <KillSpammer> Or something
#1639 [13:55] <Kealper> oh god he is using the shell.explorer.2 then
#1640 [13:55] <Kealper> not impressed
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#1642 [13:56] <Kealper> that's just an interface to IE so you can embed IE object into your own gui
#1643 [13:56] <Kealper> objects*
#1644 [13:56] <KillSpammer> http://i.imgur.com/a8Tk9.png
#1645 [13:56] <mbentley> i just wget everything and read the code
#1646 [13:56] <mbentley> </sarcasm>
#1647 [13:56] <Kealper> i made one with tabs a while back using that same interface
#1648 [13:56] <KillSpammer> That took him an hour with us nagging him to hurry up
#1649 [13:56] <Kealper> that's pretty weak
#1650 [13:56] <mbentley> should keep the name 'form1'
#1651 [13:56] <KillSpammer> Thats an hour?
#1652 [13:56] <mbentley> it's catchy
#1653 [13:57] <KillSpammer> Plus he was in a hurry
#1654 [13:57] <Kealper> mbentley: totally
#1655 [13:57] <KillSpammer> :)
#1656 [13:57] <KillSpammer> Its not done yet :S
#1657 [13:57] * Kealper hates visual basic
#1657 [13:57] <Kealper> especially when people use the form designer and do not hand code their GUIs!
#1658 [13:57] <Kealper> ll
#1659 [13:57] <Kealper> lol*
#1660 [13:57] <KillSpammer> Idk?
#1661 [13:57] <lukegb> Kealper: my chemistry teacher uses vb
#1662 [13:58] <Kealper> lukegb: is that a good thing or a bad thing?
#1663 [13:58] <KillSpammer> Kealper want to use your time and get another hobby?
#1664 [13:58] <lukegb> It's great. He tried maximising his model and it stayed the same size.
#1665 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> Case proven.
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#1668 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> VB: The IDE for chemists, not programmers.
#1669 [13:58] <Kealper> lol
#1670 [13:58] <Kealper> brb
#1671 [13:58] <lukegb> VB 6, IIRC *headdesk*
#1672 [13:58] <KillSpammer> And program and such :S
#1673 [13:58] <KillSpammer> Idk
#1674 [13:58] <KillSpammer> Meepl.net is looking for people to helpz
#1675 [13:58] <lukegb> Not even VB.net
#1676 [13:58] <mbentley> vb6? holy old
#1677 [13:58] <lukegb> mbentley: it's an old program
#1678 [13:58] <lukegb> In neon colours
#1679 [13:58] <KillSpammer> He even gave me the script because my friend had norton give him a warning lol
#1680 [13:58] <lukegb> Literally every form element
#1681 [13:58] <lukegb> Is a different colour
#1682 [13:59] <mbentley> lolnorton
#1683 [13:59] <KillSpammer> I know
#1684 [13:59] <KillSpammer> Everyone in the channel was exactly like that
#1685 [13:59] <Barkebilla> Hi guys! I need some help. I just bought Minecraft, but i can not access it. It still tells me that I do not have an premium account. Is there delay? I am kinda scared i wont get what i payed for
#1686 [13:59] <KillSpammer> I mean
#1687 [13:59] <KillSpammer> Convo
#1688 [13:59] <KillSpammer> Skype :S
#1689 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> !website
#1690 [13:59] * DopeGhoti nudges AuBot
#1690 [13:59] <mbentley> Barkebilla: minecraft.net is currently experiencing a service outage. for more information >> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_net_down_ish
#1691 [13:59] <KillSpammer> Barkebilla, At the moment Minecraft.net is having some problems
#1692 [13:59] <KillSpammer> So it could be a day or so till its all back to normal sadly
#1693 [14:00] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1694 [14:00] <Kealper> i should just take out the feigned sentience
#1695 [14:00] <KillSpammer> And it responds to me
#1696 [14:00] <Barkebilla> ah, i see. One of those problems could me not getting my account? =S
#1697 [14:00] <Kealper> it fails
#1698 [14:00] <TheReddeH> still no mc :|
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#1700 [14:00] <mbentley> Barkebilla: you will get it. it just may take a bit longer than normal to process
#1701 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> Barkebilla: no, it'll just take longer than normal
#1702 [14:00] <KillSpammer> Barkebilla, paypal will attempt to ping the server until it can get the payment through
#1703 [14:00] <KillSpammer> So you will get it
#1704 [14:00] <KillSpammer> Double ninja´d
#1705 [14:01] <Barkebilla> Ok, that was an relief. Thank you so much! The help was much appreciated!!!!!
#1706 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> cheers!
#1707 [14:01] <KillSpammer> Advice: Stay on here
#1708 [14:01] <KillSpammer> You will have many problems with minecraft :S
#1709 [14:01] <Kealper> XD
#1710 [14:01] <KillSpammer> Its advised that you just reinstall java right now to fix most future problems minecraft
#1711 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> I wonder if it says that anytime anyone mentions minecraft.
#1712 [14:02] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1713 [14:02] <KillSpammer> HAHA
#1714 [14:02] <KillSpammer> I said minceraft at the end
#1715 [14:02] <KillSpammer> minecraft
#1716 [14:02] <mbentley> minecraft problem
#1717 [14:02] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1718 [14:02] <mbentley> :D
#1719 [14:02] <KillSpammer> Problem
#1720 [14:02] <KillSpammer> Mineblem
#1721 [14:02] <Kealper> site issue
#1722 [14:02] <mbentley> YES i fixed a minecraft problem!
#1723 [14:02] <KillSpammer> I cant login
#1724 [14:02] <Kealper> random generation fail, too
#1725 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> there's a problem with AuBot being overly sensitive about minecraft.
#1726 [14:02] <TheReddeH> the minecraft problem is over!! the site is up!!
#1727 [14:03] <Kealper> !disable
#1728 [14:03] <Kealper> wait
#1729 [14:03] <Kealper> shit
#1730 [14:03] <Kealper> that won't even stop it
#1731 [14:03] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1732 [14:03] <mbentley> kill -9 AuBot
#1733 [14:03] <KillSpammer> NOO
#1734 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> sorry, I shouldn't have kept picking at that scab
#1735 [14:03] <Kealper> lol mbentley
#1736 [14:03] <KillSpammer> Meh
#1737 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> also, wow is AuBot ever slow
#1738 [14:03] <Kealper> it's not
#1739 [14:03] <KillSpammer> I have a problem without knowing how to make a dispenser in minecraft
#1740 [14:03] <Kealper> it has a random sleep timer in it
#1741 [14:03] <mbentley> lol
#1742 [14:03] <KillSpammer> Oh ok
#1743 [14:03] <KillSpammer> Thats
#1744 [14:03] <KillSpammer> Thanks
#1745 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> ~10 sec on my end between seeing a string and AuBot's reply
#1746 [14:04] <KillSpammer> Now i know how to fix
#1747 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> aah
#1748 [14:04] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1749 [14:04] <mbentley> give you time to ninja AuBot then
#1750 [14:04] <mbentley> *gives
#1751 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> while /bin/true; do killall -9 sleep; sleep 0.2; done &
#1752 [14:04] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#1753 [14:04] <Kealper> it was supposed to make it look like a more natural response, but that is what happens when you try to scramble sentience in a few min
#1754 [14:04] <KillSpammer> Kealper make it say a command that will issue that same command
#1755 [14:04] <KillSpammer> Loop ftw
#1756 [14:05] <KillSpammer> So kealper
#1757 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: its name is AuBot. Au_Bot_. And you want it to look sentient? :)
#1758 [14:05] <Kealper> KillSpammer: it literally can't, irc doesn't work that way lol
#1759 [14:05] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: shh
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#1761 [14:05] <Kealper> .nick ImAPerson
#1762 [14:05] <Kealper> darn....
#1763 [14:05] <Kealper> don't feel like loading that module
#1764 [14:05] <KillSpammer> Aubot does log right?
#1765 [14:05] <Kealper> yes
#1766 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> no, it logs left.
#1767 [14:05] <KillSpammer> Find out how many times minecraft and notch have been mentioned
#1768 [14:06] <Kealper> lol
#1769 [14:06] <Kealper> that reminds me, i gotta finish the logs page
#1770 [14:06] <KillSpammer> Erm
#1771 [14:06] <KillSpammer> Kealper
#1772 [14:06] <KillSpammer> What coding langauges and such do you know?
#1773 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> KillSpammer: every single line, because everyhitng in this channel starts with 'PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :' :)
#1774 [14:07] <Kealper> KillSpammer: uhh, AutoIt and Perl/PHP, but i've dabbled in C/C++ and Python
#1775 [14:07] <TheReddeH> i touched a pyhton once xD
#1776 [14:07] <i81u812> can obsidion withstand a blast from a creeper?
#1777 [14:08] <aetherian> yes
#1778 [14:08] <Kealper> did it throw errors about spacing?
#1779 [14:08] <Kealper> lol
#1780 [14:08] <aetherian> it can withstand blasts from good amounts of tnt as well.
#1781 [14:08] <TheReddeH> so can adminium
#1782 [14:08] <aetherian> >.>
#1783 [14:08] <i81u812> alright I need to make a cage in the groundmade of obsidion and ill just stand under run to that often....
#1784 [14:09] <i81u812> /run
#1785 [14:09] <i81u812> wtf does adminium look like ....
#1786 [14:09] <Kealper> bedrock?
#1787 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> Dark grey with light grey streaks in it
#1788 [14:09] <i81u812> but you cannot move it correct
#1789 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> Correct.
#1790 [14:10] <i81u812> alright then that wont help currently
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#1792 [14:10] <TheReddeH> 20:09 i81u812 • wtf does adminium look like .... depends on your texturepack :>
#1793 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> When I first started playing, I didn't know diamonds were blue, so the first time I hit Adminium, I thought it was diamonds
#1794 [14:10] <i81u812> lol
#1795 [14:10] <TheReddeH> lol
#1796 [14:11] <mbentley> some crazy hard diamonds!
#1797 [14:11] <Kealper> xD
#1798 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> indeed; I was all "Huh, these take longer to mine than Obsidian"
#1799 [14:11] <i81u812> The first map I loaded was a desert biome and I thought creepers were cactus men attack me
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#1801 [14:11] <TheReddeH> you should need a diamin==ons pick to mine diamond xD
#1802 [14:11] <TheReddeH> wow typo
#1803 [14:11] <mbentley> letter barf
#1804 [14:11] <Kealper> lol
#1805 [14:12] <Barkebilla> Hi guys! :) got my account. =)Could I ask a quick question about Minecraft servers. Have set it up, opened ports. My friend tries to connect but i get this message:
#1806 [14:12] <Barkebilla> [INFO] Disconnecting Played [/85.166.201.30:13945]: Took too long to log in
#1807 [14:12] <i81u812> yeah.. I come on here and forget how to type after staring at MC I just want to press i and w
#1808 [14:12] <Kealper> !website
#1809 [14:12] <mbentley> Barkebilla: same problem
#1810 [14:12] <Kealper> aubot...
#1811 [14:12] <mbentley> minecraft.net = slow/down
#1812 [14:13] <Barkebilla> ah :) ok
#1813 [14:13] <Kealper> you useless bot -.-
#1814 [14:13] <Barkebilla> thanks again :D
#1815 [14:13] <Barkebilla> <3
#1816 [14:13] <mbentley> tell your friend to keep trying at they might get in
#1817 [14:13] <Barkebilla> kk
#1818 [14:13] <KillSpammer> Its based on chance :)
#1819 [14:13] <mbentley> miencraft vegas
#1820 [14:13] <Kealper> awww yeaaaah
#1821 [14:13] <mbentley> taking bets on if you will get through...
#1822 [14:14] <mbentley> minecraft even
#1823 [14:14] <BarryCarlyon> I have the same problem as Barkebilla at this time.
#1824 [14:14] <Kealper> !website
#1825 [14:14] <Kealper> why is that broke
#1826 [14:15] <Kealper> !status
#1827 [14:15] <mbentley> you disabled earlier, amirite?
#1828 [14:15] <KillSpammer> !enable
#1829 [14:15] <KillSpammer> :)
#1830 [14:15] <Kealper> it should still work for any users that have the right to disable it
#1831 [14:15] * mbentley throws sporks at AuBot
#1831 [14:15] <i81u812> they should have some type of easily moveable scaffolding to make it easier not to fall to your death 50 blocks high expanding your buildings
#1832 [14:15] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1833 [14:15] <i81u812> !topic
#1834 [14:15] <Kealper> !website
#1835 [14:15] <Kealper> stupid bot
#1836 [14:15] * GreyBot bonks Kealper, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1836 [14:16] <BarryCarlyon> Barkebilla: the server needs a update.
#1837 [14:16] <KillSpammer> i81u812, its called dirt :)
#1838 [14:16] <BarryCarlyon> I just did a server update and it told me how many receipes are listed 138!
#1839 [14:16] <KillSpammer> Actually
#1840 [14:16] <KillSpammer> i81u812, its called sand or gravel :)
#1841 [14:16] <i81u812> you still have to go on the edge to get it or make towers everywhere...
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#1843 [14:17] <Kealper> BarryCarlyon: yes.....it's been that high since 1.2
#1844 [14:17] <KillSpammer> Sand and gravel = Gravity affected
#1845 [14:17] <BarryCarlyon> Kealper: more amzes at the fact the server decided to tell me
#1846 [14:17] <Kealper> oh lol, yeah, they added that after the beta 1.0 update i think
#1847 [14:17] <mbentley> typically spits that out when the first person connects i believe
#1848 [14:17] <BarryCarlyon> Ah.
#1849 [14:18] <Kealper> mbentley: yeah, i wish it wouldn't, and spit it out at startup like it used to -.-
#1850 [14:19] <KillSpammer> stupid bot
#1851 [14:19] * GreyBot bonks KillSpammer, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1851 [14:19] <Kealper> makes my server wrapper hate it until someone connects, and i'm too lazy to rewrite that part of my wrapper lol
#1852 [14:19] <the_late_man> wait, if we say stupid bot, how does it know we're talking about that one...
#1853 [14:19] * GreyBot bonks the_late_man, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1853 [14:19] <the_late_man> ...
#1854 [14:19] <KillSpammer> Haha
#1855 [14:19] <KillSpammer> Foolish man for saying stupid bot
#1856 [14:19] * GreyBot bonks KillSpammer, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1856 [14:19] <mbentley> i really love stupid bots
#1857 [14:19] * GreyBot bonks mbentley, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1857 [14:19] <KillSpammer> Ohsit
#1858 [14:20] <Kealper> oh god
#1859 [14:20] <KillSpammer> No kealper
#1860 [14:20] <KillSpammer> PLEASE
#1861 [14:20] <Kealper> spam incomming
#1862 [14:20] <KillSpammer> Do not disable that
#1863 [14:20] <Kealper> stupid bot
#1864 [14:20] * GreyBot bonks Kealper, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1864 [14:20] <Kealper> stupid bot
#1865 [14:20] * GreyBot bonks Kealper, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1865 [14:20] <Kealper> stupid bot
#1866 [14:20] * GreyBot bonks Kealper, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1866 [14:20] <Kealper> GreyVulpine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1867 [14:20] <Kaito> stupid bot
#1868 [14:20] * GreyBot bonks Kaito, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1868 [14:20] <Kaito> xD
#1869 [14:20] <the_late_man> o_O
#1870 [14:20] <mbentley> it's like peewee's playhouse word of the day
#1871 [14:20] <KillSpammer> I wonder what happens when he says it?
#1872 [14:20] * aetherian is away: misc.
#1872 [14:20] <mbentley> the word of the day is...
#1873 [14:20] <KillSpammer> Misc being 4chan
#1874 [14:20] <mbentley> 'stupid bot'
#1875 [14:20] * GreyBot bonks mbentley, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1875 [14:21] <mbentley> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
#1876 [14:21] <KillSpammer> piduts tob
#1877 [14:21] <aetherian> dumb bot
#1878 [14:21] <KillSpammer> Didnt think of that bot did you!
#1879 [14:21] <Kaito> stupid moronic bot
#1880 [14:21] <Kaito> woot!
#1881 [14:21] <aetherian> that bot's an imbecile
#1882 [14:21] <Kaito> i hate that bot
#1883 [14:22] <aetherian> stupidd bot
#1884 [14:23] <KillSpammer> Obsidian is black peoples only friend in minecraft
#1885 [14:23] <KillSpammer> Oh and black sheep and black wool
#1886 [14:23] <KillSpammer> Now
#1887 [14:23] * i81u812 slaps greybot with Obsidion
#1887 [14:23] * GreyBot growls and goes kung-fu on i81u812.
#1887 [14:23] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1888 [14:23] * KillSpammer slaps GreyBot
#1888 [14:23] * GreyBot growls and goes kung-fu on KillSpammer.
#1888 [14:24] <Kealper> lol
#1889 [14:24] * KillSpammer hits GreyBot
#1889 [14:24] <KillSpammer> MWhahaha
#1890 [14:24] * Kealper slaps AuBot
#1890 [14:24] <Kealper> aww
#1891 [14:24] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1892 [14:24] * TheReddeH fluffles AuBot
#1892 [14:24] <KillSpammer> ./fail
#1893 [14:24] <Kealper> dang, i need to load up more of those modules
#1894 [14:24] <mbentley> AuBot needs to call GreyBot a stupid bot
#1895 [14:24] * GreyBot bonks mbentley, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1895 [14:24] <i81u812> I had some clevers scripts before they were awesome for slapping stupid bots
#1896 [14:24] * GreyBot bonks i81u812, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1896 [14:24] <mbentley> and AuBot should defend itself from bonking
#1897 [14:24] <aetherian> poor bot
#1898 [14:24] * mr_sticky [mr_sticky@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1899 [14:25] * Kealper kicks AuBot
#1899 [14:25] <Kealper> hmm....
#1900 [14:25] <aetherian> now what we need is aubot to say stupid bot whenever greybot says "Be nice to your bot master"
#1901 [14:25] * GreyBot bonks aetherian, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1901 [14:25] <Kealper> guess i don't have that module loaded
#1902 [14:25] <i81u812> anyone know about earthempires...
#1903 [14:25] <aetherian> start it and watch it flow
#1904 [14:25] <Kealper> i81u812: wuzzat?
#1905 [14:25] <Beharede> http://softalpack.weebly.com/
#1906 [14:25] <i81u812> nothing anymore much just seeing
#1907 [14:26] <i81u812> used to be #1 game on the interwebs in like 08
#1908 [14:26] <i81u812> oops 98
#1909 [14:26] <i81u812> or 00
#1910 [14:26] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1911 [14:26] <aetherian> 00=1800
#1912 [14:26] <i81u812> lol
#1913 [14:26] <Kealper> nerd quiz: what's the first thing that comes to mind when you see "OO"?
#1914 [14:26] <mr_sticky> hey i have a queztion
#1915 [14:26] <i81u812> QQ
#1916 [14:27] <Kealper> yes mr_sticky?
#1917 [14:27] <mr_sticky> i bought it on paypal
#1918 [14:27] <KillSpammer> Boobs
#1919 [14:27] <mr_sticky> now what
#1920 [14:27] <i81u812> mines better....
#1921 [14:27] <aetherian> kealper: it's just 0
#1922 [14:27] <Kealper> correct answer for nerdness was Object Oriented
#1923 [14:27] <TheReddeH> any1 else planning to run NYC marathon 2011??
#1924 [14:27] <KillSpammer> mr_sticky, you wait
#1925 [14:27] <mr_sticky> ahem
#1926 [14:27] <mr_sticky> i am
#1927 [14:27] <mr_sticky> ...
#1928 [14:27] <mr_sticky> :)
#1929 [14:27] <KillSpammer> anyone planning to go to minecon 2011?
#1930 [14:27] <KillSpammer> Lol
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#1932 [14:28] <TheReddeH> that didnt look really confincing mr_sticky ;p
#1933 [14:29] <mr_sticky> what
#1934 [14:29] <i81u812> whenever I bring up my mirc I always want to press i to continue the fun...
#1935 [14:29] <mr_sticky> oh
#1936 [14:29] <mr_sticky> i think im making prgress
#1937 [14:29] <mr_sticky> it's working!
#1938 [14:29] <KillSpammer> What?
#1939 [14:30] <mr_sticky> thanks for all the "help" guys
#1940 [14:30] <TheReddeH> ...
#1941 [14:30] <mr_sticky> :)
#1942 [14:30] <mr_sticky> minecraft
#1943 [14:31] <mr_sticky> okay
#1944 [14:31] <mr_sticky> bye bye
#1945 [14:31] <LordEddi> Hm, any way of randomizing a world after we have started playing on it?
#1946 [14:31] <TheReddeH> yeah walk in any direction for an hour
#1947 [14:32] <LordEddi> Just been using the verify_names stuff off for now, while we wait for things to get back up and running.
#1948 [14:32] <LordEddi> hehe.
#1949 [14:32] <LordEddi> We actually did that to some degree :p
#1950 [14:33] * Miclee [Miclee@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1951 [14:33] * DopeGhoti thought verify_names didn't exist as a property any longer. huh.
#1951 [14:34] <LordEddi> sorry, meant online-mode.
#1952 [14:34] * ziggo0 [ziggo0@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1953 [14:34] <LordEddi> started today, so a bit confussled by everything.
#1954 [14:35] <TheReddeH> omg he stole my word and then misspelled it
#1955 [14:35] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1956 [14:35] <TheReddeH> confuzzled!
#1957 [14:35] <LordEddi> Pfft.
#1958 [14:35] <LordEddi> Confussled all the way!
#1959 [14:35] <TheReddeH> u lie
#1960 [14:35] <LordEddi> And totally my word, not yours!
#1961 [14:36] <TheReddeH> wordstealer!
#1962 [14:36] * DopeGhoti is confusified at the spelling war between the Z-lots and the S-troop.
#1962 [14:36] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1963 [14:37] * Kealper has been aware of confuzzled for the better part of 10 years
#1963 [14:37] <TheReddeH> you mean the Z-troop and the S-luts
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#1965 [14:37] <LordEddi> But not confussled!
#1966 [14:37] <LordEddi> See, totally not your word TheReddeH.
#1967 [14:37] <TheReddeH> it is! ive been using it for over 10 years
#1968 [14:38] * the_late_man [the_late_man@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1969 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> TheReddeH: I remember hearing "confu{ss,zz}led" back in grade school, so if you've been only using it for a decade, it's not 'your' word :p
#1970 [14:39] <TheReddeH> i said -over- 10 years did i not ;p
#1971 [14:40] <TheReddeH> anyway im going to start using confuzzlyfied, its more 2011
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#1973 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> http://is.gd/nAfhgg
#1974 [14:41] <TheReddeH> i win!
#1975 [14:41] <LordEddi> hehe
#1976 [14:41] <Barkebilla> How long does it usually take for the servers to get up when the servers are down like this?
#1977 [14:42] <TheReddeH> 5 years
#1978 [14:42] <KillSpammer> Its never really happened like thsi before
#1979 [14:42] <Barkebilla> exactly
#1980 [14:42] <KillSpammer> Perhpas a day
#1981 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> Barkebilla: the game servers themselves are humming along nicely, but when people try to connect to them, the game servers can't hit the verification servers
#1982 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> which is the problem
#1983 [14:42] <Barkebilla> ah
#1984 [14:42] <Barkebilla> problematic
#1985 [14:42] <Kealper> quite
#1986 [14:43] <KillSpammer> Players: Fuck yeah lets go on some servers Servers: OOoo a connecter lets allow them in HOLY FUCK NO VERTFICATION SHITTTT!!
#1987 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> And since the auth and login servers are moving to different places, there'll probably be a server and client update once the rollout is complete. I'm hoping to see things back up this weekend.
#1988 [14:43] <TheReddeH> wouldnt it be fun if all the authdata got destroyed ;p
#1989 [14:43] <TheReddeH> lets all buy it again!
#1990 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> thanks, AuBot; of this I am aware.
#1991 [14:44] * Skoshuke [Skoshuke@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1992 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> AuBot: Am I? Am I really?
#1993 [14:44] <TheReddeH> apparently ur not\
#1994 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> seemingly
#1995 [14:45] <the_late_man> dammit norton
#1996 [14:45] <TheReddeH> dammit boredom
#1997 [14:45] <Kealper> lol DopeGhoti
#1998 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> the_late_man: Running Norton at all may be your first mistake.
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#2000 [14:51] <NinjaKirby> Bwanana
#2001 [14:51] <the_late_man> dopeghoti: it's not my choice.
#2002 [14:51] <the_late_man> my father insists it stay on.
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#2004 [14:54] <the_late_man> =\
#2005 [14:56] <Kealper> meh...i'm afk for like 15 min
#2006 [14:56] <the_late_man> mmkay, bye keealpy.
#2007 [14:57] <TheReddeH> Yally Bally had a jolly golliwog. Feeling folly, Yally Bally Bought his jolly golli' a dollie made of holly! The golli', feeling jolly, named the holly dollie, Polly. So Yally Bally's jolly golli's holly dollie Polly's also jolly!
#2008 [15:01] <KillSpammer> Thatnks, Aubot
#2009 [15:01] <NinjaKirby> Oh bluddy, hell, my country's currency is failing me abysmally. Whatever happened to 200 yen per Pound.
#2010 [15:01] <KillSpammer> Thanks, AuBot
#2011 [15:01] <KillSpammer> Thanks, Kealper sometimes that AuBot sucks
#2012 [15:01] <KillSpammer> Lol
#2013 [15:04] <the_late_man> haha
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#2015 [15:05] <KnightMare> hi, could use some help :O
#2016 [15:06] <the_late_man> then ask
#2017 [15:06] <KnightMare> allright, bought the game like 3 hours ago, but cant play..were should i turn?
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#2019 [15:06] <awawa> hi
#2020 [15:07] <BarryCarlyon> Minecraft.net is down which means no one can connect.
#2021 [15:07] <awawa> someone have a minecraft planetoids server up going?
#2022 [15:07] <aetherian> knightmare: didn't you read the aubot/topic?
#2023 [15:07] <BarryCarlyon> Planetoids?
#2024 [15:07] <aetherian> awawa: no
#2025 [15:07] <awawa> yeah
#2026 [15:07] <aetherian> no we don't
#2027 [15:07] <KnightMare> were is that?
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#2029 [15:07] <BarryCarlyon> What is planetoids?
#2030 [15:07] <awawa> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmVNMOW5pWc
#2031 [15:08] <awawa> check it out
#2032 [15:08] <LordEddi> grumble! i wanna change skin :/
#2033 [15:08] <awawa> me 2 :P
#2034 [15:08] <KnightMare> i just wanna play =(
#2035 [15:09] <aetherian> knightmare: you can't.
#2036 [15:09] <aetherian> the ()&* server is down.
#2037 [15:09] <KnightMare> got 2 friends playing with eachother right now
#2038 [15:09] <aetherian> right sure.
#2039 [15:09] <KnightMare> K :/
#2040 [15:09] <awawa> minecraft is up again :D
#2041 [15:10] <KnightMare> they hosted their own server apperently =/ dont know how it works
#2042 [15:10] <KnightMare> have paid for it..but the site says i havent
#2043 [15:10] <KnightMare> the money has been charged
#2044 [15:11] <mbentley> site slow = payment notification slow
#2045 [15:11] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2046 [15:11] <KnightMare> okay =/ we all bought it at the same time..so feels wierd to be left out you know =/
#2047 [15:11] <aetherian> !paid knightmare
#2048 [15:11] <mbentley> did you both pay with the same method? paypal or credit card
#2049 [15:11] <aetherian> awe
#2050 [15:12] <KnightMare> yepp..credit card
#2051 [15:12] <KnightMare> even have the same bank
#2052 [15:12] <KillSpammer> Credit Card is slower
#2053 [15:12] <KillSpammer> Than paypal :S
#2054 [15:12] <KnightMare> my name is kazz1ki on the minecraft page
#2055 [15:12] <KnightMare> ic =/
#2056 [15:12] <KnightMare> wish id known
#2057 [15:12] <LordEddi> !paid kazz1ki
#2058 [15:12] <aetherian> slow aubot is slow
#2059 [15:13] <LordEddi> Atleast it comes through in the end..
#2060 [15:13] <aetherian> I thought it wouldn't
#2061 [15:13] <Kealper> aetherian: it's slow becuase the site is painfully slow
#2062 [15:13] * mib_47kxs7 [mib_47kxs7@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2063 [15:13] <KillSpammer> Miclee - I feel your going to fail somehow at that mob trap.
#2064 [15:13] <Miclee> I have a plan.
#2065 [15:13] <KillSpammer> Livestream it all Miclee
#2066 [15:13] <Miclee> nah
#2067 [15:13] <KillSpammer> Show us your plan
#2068 [15:13] <KillSpammer> Fine then.
#2069 [15:14] <KillSpammer> I believes your are haxing now
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#2071 [15:14] <Miclee> I am, using invedit to get items.
#2072 [15:14] <KnightMare> so what should i do..can i give someone my bank account number so they can verrify or what can i do =/
#2073 [15:14] <KnightMare> do i have any options?
#2074 [15:14] <Miclee> What's the problem, KnightMare?
#2075 [15:14] <otherman> no you don't
#2076 [15:14] <KillSpammer> You pussy.
#2077 [15:14] <mbentley> KnightMare: no
#2078 [15:14] <mbentley> i bet KillSpammer would take your credit card number though lol
#2079 [15:15] <KillSpammer> Yeah
#2080 [15:15] <Miclee> So what's the problem?
#2081 [15:15] <KillSpammer> I semi-work for mojang
#2082 [15:15] <KnightMare> funny =/
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#2084 [15:15] <Miclee> No you don't, KillSpammer.
#2085 [15:15] <KillSpammer> I can just send your account number over to them :)
#2086 [15:15] <KillSpammer> Lol
#2087 [15:15] <KillSpammer> </joke>
#2088 [15:15] <mbentley> nah, nobody actually works for mojang in here
#2089 [15:15] <mbentley> we are just that nice of people
#2090 [15:16] <Kealper> there are some here that have "connections" to mojang, though
#2091 [15:16] <mbentley> ...except for the stupid bots
#2092 [15:16] * GreyBot bonks mbentley, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#2092 [15:16] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, and Kealper should be getting paid
#2093 [15:16] <KillSpammer> And mbentley proberly...
#2094 [15:16] <KnightMare> okau =/
#2095 [15:16] * Roenie would love to connect to mojang too - with his fist
#2095 [15:16] <KillSpammer> Miclee has his connections
#2096 [15:16] <Miclee> KillSpammer, it's a community-run channel.
#2097 [15:16] <mbentley> i just really don't do that much at work so it makes my day go by faster
#2098 [15:16] <KillSpammer> I also have a 13percent chance of getting my tweet acknowledged
#2099 [15:16] <Miclee> If you're going by that logic, I should be getting paid too.
#2100 [15:17] <KnightMare> guess ill qeep looking around on other irc channels then..bye
#2101 [15:17] <KillSpammer> Wut?
#2102 [15:17] <KillSpammer> Why?
#2103 [15:17] <Miclee> KnightMare, what's the problem?
#2104 [15:17] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#2105 [15:17] <KillSpammer> He is impatient for his account to become premium
#2106 [15:17] <KillSpammer> He recently bought it...
#2107 [15:17] <KnightMare> payed for the game..sais its been charged
#2108 [15:17] <Kealper> KillSpammer: he's op in #minecraft
#2109 [15:17] <KnightMare> but i cant play
#2110 [15:17] <KnightMare> thats pretty much the problem
#2111 [15:17] <KnightMare> and my two friends bought..but it worked for them
#2112 [15:17] <Miclee> KnightMare: Send an e-mail with your receipt to daniel@mojang.com
#2113 [15:17] * Roenie does not understand how long this takes,considering the more than 10 million euro in mc sales, hire an expert, call a data center, and it's up in 1 day
#2113 [15:17] <KnightMare> so there playing atm
#2114 [15:17] <KillSpammer> KnightMare, when you purchase something from a website thats having problems expect delay
#2115 [15:18] <mbentley> KnightMare: can always keep checking http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=kazz1ki every so often
#2116 [15:18] <mbentley> once it turns 'true', you'll be good to go
#2117 [15:18] <KillSpammer> Ronie 50 percent taxes from sweden
#2118 [15:18] <Miclee> KnightMare: Send an e-mail with your receipt to daniel@mojang.com.
#2119 [15:18] * Roenie thinks those programmers are trying to do it themselves
#2119 [15:18] <KnightMare> okay,,ill try thoose things
#2120 [15:18] <Miclee> The fact that the servers have had problems lately may have messed up some of the payments.
#2121 [15:18] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#2122 [15:18] <KillSpammer> KnightMare, how long ago did you buy the game?
#2123 [15:18] <KnightMare> around 3 hours
#2124 [15:18] <KnightMare> maby 4
#2125 [15:19] <KillSpammer> Why does Miclee successfully troll me without knowing it so much :S
#2126 [15:19] <Miclee> What?>
#2127 [15:19] <Roenie> KillSpammer, regardless, 500k should be enough for 1 day of work by a data center expert
#2128 [15:19] <KillSpammer> YOu make me sad alot :(
#2129 [15:19] <KillSpammer> Roenie - Yes but they want to prove to us :S
#2130 [15:19] <Miclee> Cool.
#2131 [15:19] <KillSpammer> http://i.imgur.com/U9m85.gif
#2132 [15:19] <KillSpammer> Erm... I though you would atleast be nice to me :(
#2133 [15:20] <Miclee> I am.
#2134 [15:20] <KillSpammer> Miclee seen the image yet?
#2135 [15:20] <Roenie> KillSpammer, it's just bad entrepeneurship
#2136 [15:20] <Miclee> Roenie, Notch is new to this all.
#2137 [15:20] <Miclee> Minecraft was just a side-project for him at first.
#2138 [15:20] <Miclee> He didn't expect it to grow this large.
#2139 [15:20] <KillSpammer> Notch was like holy fuck 500 sales in one day *main project*
#2140 [15:20] <Roenie> he's a programmer, he should know when to make a phonecall
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#2142 [15:20] <KillSpammer> Well
#2143 [15:21] <KillSpammer> MAYBE JUST MAYBE
#2144 [15:21] <Miclee> Roenie, he has recently hired someone to take care of the website/server issues.
#2145 [15:21] * lunarblu [lunarblu@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#2146 [15:21] <LordEddi> Less QQ, more PewPew!
#2147 [15:21] <Miclee> They are being dealt with.
#2148 [15:21] <KillSpammer> He lost his phone!
#2149 [15:21] <KillSpammer> ANyone up for a brofist?
#2150 [15:21] <KillSpammer> *brofist*
#2151 [15:21] <Roenie> hired someone, as in, put him on the payrole? or hire someone from another company temporarily?
#2152 [15:21] <KillSpammer> Put them on the payroll
#2153 [15:21] <Roenie> that's the wrong way to do it.
#2154 [15:21] <Miclee> No it's not.
#2155 [15:21] <Kealper> actually hired full-time as a server guy
#2156 [15:21] <KillSpammer> Thats Tobias Mollstam
#2157 [15:22] <Miclee> That's the perfect way to do it.
#2158 [15:22] <Roenie> in the long run, it's a good move
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#2160 [15:22] <Roenie> but not to fix a problem quickly
#2161 [15:22] <Miclee> Roenie, it's a company, they have to look at the long run.
#2162 [15:22] <KillSpammer> And you think minecraft isnt going to last long?
#2163 [15:22] <KnightMare> there, sent him an email. hope he can help me work things out
#2164 [15:22] <Miclee> Minecraft still has years upon years of life left.
#2165 [15:22] <KillSpammer> Minecraft is a community driven game I expect many game overhauls and such once he releases the mod api
#2166 [15:22] <Miclee> As well, there will be other games made by Mojang.
#2167 [15:23] <Roenie> what they should have done is, call a data center, have them put their best guy on the job immediately
#2168 [15:23] <Roenie> AND then hire someone
#2169 [15:23] <KillSpammer> Imagine many mini notches...
#2170 [15:23] <mbentley> just sorta curious, but has anyone seen an official explanation of why minecraft.net recently started having capacity issues? it seemed fine recently. was wondering if there might have been an ongoing denial of service attack
#2171 [15:23] <KillSpammer> Roenie, the reason Notch doesnt want to do that is exactly why he only hires people in sweden - He wants to know the person first.
#2172 [15:24] <KillSpammer> mbentley, arnt they moving servers
#2173 [15:24] * SkiingPenguins [SkiingPenguins@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2174 [15:24] <KillSpammer> or did?
#2175 [15:24] <Kealper> yes
#2176 [15:24] <mbentley> KillSpammer: that wasn't the reason
#2177 [15:24] <Roenie> that's just silly, KillSpammer
#2178 [15:24] <i81u812> upgreyds lawl
#2179 [15:24] <i81u812> damn movie
#2180 [15:24] <mbentley> an upgrade was supposed to be a resolution
#2181 [15:25] <KillSpammer> Roenie - Its what I would do, Ive been scammed and cheated out of things so many times.
#2182 [15:25] <Roenie> see, that he should have asked the expert
#2183 [15:25] <KillSpammer> Proberly the same with Notch
#2184 [15:25] <Roenie> not assumed it would help
#2185 [15:25] <mbentley> and yeah, they have already switched the dns over
#2186 [15:25] <Kealper> alright kiddies, bickering fixes nothing
#2187 [15:25] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#2188 [15:25] <KillSpammer> Kiddies?
#2189 [15:25] <SkiingPenguins> hi
#2190 [15:25] <KillSpammer> Plural?
#2191 [15:25] <KillSpammer> Isnt it Roenie the only one complaining?
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#2193 [15:25] <Roenie> Kealper, i just hate it when i see someone who made a great game, dig his own grave
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#2195 [15:26] <TheReddeH> :>
#2196 [15:26] <Roenie> :)
#2197 [15:26] <Rasmus> Hi all
#2198 [15:26] <Roenie> <KillSpammer> Isnt it Roenie the only one complaining? <-- yes, and proud of it
#2199 [15:26] <KillSpammer> Ok :)
#2200 [15:27] <Rasmus> hey, could anyone help me out with this one? http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=147910 :)
#2201 [15:27] <TheReddeH> reinstall
#2202 [15:28] <mbentley> !reinstall
#2203 [15:28] <Roenie> ok i might have a slight grudge against programmers for knowing fuck all about computers and networks, all they often know is how to write code, epic fail.. so at work they ask the network admin how to fix their simple computer problems - that would be me.
#2204 [15:28] <Rasmus> TheReddeH: If you're refering to me, I can tell you, that I have already tried that, about 2*10^1 times...
#2205 [15:29] <KillSpammer> Oh thats nice mbentley before it was giving me minecraft.net was down :S
#2206 [15:29] <Roenie> so thats when i go: you're a f-ing programmer, and you know nothing about computers?
#2207 [15:29] <KillSpammer> STUPID BOT!
#2208 [15:29] * GreyBot bonks KillSpammer, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#2208 [15:29] <TheReddeH> 10^1 :')
#2209 [15:29] <KillSpammer> Roenie - Play Singleplayer?
#2210 [15:29] * Kealper is a computer repair tech, AND a programmer :P
#2210 [15:29] <Roenie> repair tech?
#2211 [15:29] * TheReddeH is alllmost a cpa ;p
#2211 [15:30] <mbentley> so Rasmus you have removed the %appdata%\.minecraft\bin directory and re-launched the client to force it to redownload?
#2212 [15:30] <Kealper> it means i fix computers, but it sounds more technical
#2213 [15:30] <KillSpammer> Kealper, Erm... want to make programs for meepl.net?
#2214 [15:30] <Kealper> KillSpammer: wut
#2215 [15:30] <KillSpammer> Thing my friend started
#2216 [15:30] <Roenie> repair tech, is that not the fat kid in the corner of the room without windows, working 9 hrs a day for some shouting egotistic boss?
#2217 [15:30] <Rasmus> mbentley: Yes, I have, and also tried manually installing again, from the minecraft.exe I have...
#2218 [15:30] <KillSpammer> Want to make programs for a hobby and such for meepl.net?
#2219 [15:31] <Roenie> fixing puters of home users infected with spyware?
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#2221 [15:31] <Kealper> Roenie: spot on, aside from i'm freelance, so i'm my own boss :P
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#2223 [15:31] <Roenie> lol ok
#2224 [15:31] <SkiingPenguins> that sounds fun
#2225 [15:32] <KillSpammer> Get much business Kealper ?
#2226 [15:32] <Kealper> it's not too bad
#2227 [15:32] <KillSpammer> So that thing abotu meepl?
#2228 [15:32] <KillSpammer> Yes or no?
#2229 [15:32] <Kealper> oh....lemme check it out
#2230 [15:33] <SkiingPenguins> that website sure is blank
#2231 [15:33] <KillSpammer> ITs dead :)
#2232 [15:33] <KillSpammer> Just need the maker to get to work :S
#2233 [15:33] <KillSpammer> And make some stuffs...
#2234 [15:33] <Kealper> what is it anyways?
#2235 [15:34] <KillSpammer> Well we are aiming for a social community kind of thing :)
#2236 [15:34] <Kealper> and no, i don't do web crap....i hate web apps
#2237 [15:34] <KillSpammer> Dont do them then
#2238 [15:34] * mbentley thinks Kealper would hate my job then
#2238 [15:34] <KillSpammer> Lol
#2239 [15:34] * KillSpammer thinks mbentley knows objective C
#2239 [15:34] <mbentley> lol programming
#2240 [15:34] <Kealper> HATE web apps
#2241 [15:34] <Kealper> lol
#2242 [15:34] <mbentley> i don't really program
#2243 [15:34] <mbentley> i deal with web apps all day
#2244 [15:34] <mbentley> :)
#2245 [15:35] <Kealper> oh god....objective c
#2246 [15:35] * SkiingPenguins is just a script kiddie =(
#2246 [15:35] <LordEddi> Is there a way of changing your loginname?
#2247 [15:35] <KillSpammer> On what?
#2248 [15:35] <mbentley> LordEddi: no
#2249 [15:35] <KillSpammer> Minecraft?
#2250 [15:36] <LordEddi> Darn, one of my retarded friends managed to misspell his username xD
#2251 [15:36] <KillSpammer> LOL
#2252 [15:36] <KillSpammer> Ive done that registering a webpage
#2253 [15:36] <LordEddi> rofl
#2254 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> LordEddi: he can buy another account, and if he _just_ bought the misnamed one, ask for a refund.
#2255 [15:36] <mbentley> hmm, not really seeing much on that error Rasmus
#2256 [15:36] <KillSpammer> The guy was kind of new so he changed it for free :)
#2257 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> LordEddi: have him email payments@mojang.com
#2258 [15:36] <KillSpammer> New services
#2259 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: what's wrong with Objective-C? :p
#2260 [15:37] <LordEddi> DopeGhoti: He registered an account, and used a code I gave him.
#2261 [15:37] <LordEddi> But its fine.
#2262 [15:37] <LordEddi> He can deal with it :p
#2263 [15:37] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: it's not C++....that's what's wrong with it lol
#2264 [15:37] <Rasmus> mbentley: Hmm... :/ the "funny" thing is that, I've tried just copying the entire .minecraft folder from my laptop, which runs just fine (when lag is neglected), and even that won't run.. :/
#2265 [15:38] <mbentley> Rasmus: so is your system running windows xp 64 bit Rasmus?
#2266 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: that's what Objective-C++ is for. :)
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#2268 [15:38] <Rasmus> mbentley: no, win 7 64 bit
#2269 [15:38] <Kealper> object oriented object oriented C....BRILLIANT!
#2270 [15:38] <mbentley> just curious because at the bottom i see 'OS: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 3'
#2271 [15:38] <KillSpammer> Uhh...
#2272 [15:38] * KillSpammer patiently waits for an answer from Kealper
#2272 [15:38] <jstdon> bought a gift code yesterday, it showed up on my profile page immediately, never got an email (don't care). bought another gift code 10 minutes ago, code is not appearing on profile. is this just due to loaded site?
#2273 [15:39] <Rasmus> mbentley: might be that I ran in compatability mode, for xp SP3
#2274 [15:39] <mbentley> ah
#2275 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> jstdon: probably
#2276 [15:39] <mbentley> tried 64 bit java?
#2277 [15:39] <LordEddi> jstdon: took like five minutes for me to get them to show.
#2278 [15:39] <Kealper> KillSpammer: wut
#2279 [15:39] <Rasmus> mbentley: Yes, have tried 64 bit java
#2280 [15:39] <TheReddeH> i always run stuff on incompatibilitymode.. its more challenging
#2281 [15:39] <awawa> what is hmod?
#2282 [15:40] <LordEddi> Serverquestion for a noob, does the server I have setup for my mates save the world pretty much?
#2283 [15:40] <KillSpammer> <KillSpammer> Kealper, Erm... want to make programs for meepl.net?
#2284 [15:40] <mbentley> updated video drivers from nvidia.com ?
#2285 [15:40] <LordEddi> Or do I need something else for that?
#2286 [15:40] <LordEddi> Like an addon.
#2287 [15:40] <Kealper> KillSpammer: no lol, i hate web stuff
#2288 [15:40] <Rasmus> mbentley: Just got the latest driver from Nvidia yesterday
#2289 [15:40] <KillSpammer> Erm... Nvm
#2290 [15:41] <KillSpammer> I ll ask you later with more details lol
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#2293 [15:42] <mbentley> i haven't seen 'problematic frame: # C [ntdll.dll+0x2dea6]' before
#2294 [15:42] <Kealper> O.o
#2295 [15:42] <Kealper> woh
#2296 [15:42] <Kealper> stolen copy of windows?
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#2298 [15:42] <Rasmus> indeed not
#2299 [15:43] <jstdon> where-my-gift-code-at-ragin'
#2300 [15:43] <LordEddi> xD
#2301 [15:43] <LordEddi> Tried logging out, and back out?
#2302 [15:43] <jstdon> no dice
#2303 [15:44] <jstdon> though if this were dice i'm sure i'd never get it
#2304 [15:44] <jstdon> ho ho ho
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#2306 [15:46] <Roenie> Kealper, I once went over to fix the home computer of a CEO, the client of the IT company I used to work for. Once the PC was fixed, he asked me to open some photographs as a test, didn't matter which ones he said - they had names like IMG_###
#2307 [15:46] <mbentley> Rasmus: have daemon tools installed?
#2308 [15:46] <Roenie> turned out to be frontal nude pictures of his wife
#2309 [15:46] <Kealper> XD
#2310 [15:46] <Roenie> while he was standing next to me
#2311 [15:46] <mbentley> 1.) copy & paste to flash drive
#2312 [15:46] <mbentley> 2.) ask for raise
#2313 [15:47] <Rasmus> mbentley: No, no daemon tools..
#2314 [15:47] <Kealper> i've seen some pretty bad ones, myself...even so far as certain actions being tiled as a background image
#2315 [15:47] <Roenie> :S
#2316 [15:47] <LordEddi> Uhm, quick question. I am running a local server for a few friends, and I am a bit uncertain if the status of the server actually gets saved? Even if we at some point shut the server down?
#2317 [15:48] <SkiingPenguins> yes it gets saved if you type "stop" to shut the server down
#2318 [15:48] <LordEddi> Cool.
#2319 [15:48] <mbentley> seems to be all sorts of different programs that people claim to be the cause of ntdll.dll errors
#2320 [15:49] <LordEddi> And if I let it run, they can connect to it at whatever point and the progress that they are doing will be visible to the rest of us once we get on?
#2321 [15:49] <Kealper> i'd assume any injected code (rootkit, anyone?) could also cause that
#2322 [15:49] <SkiingPenguins> LordEddi: yes
#2323 [15:49] <LordEddi> Sweet!
#2324 [15:49] <LordEddi> Thanks :)
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#2326 [15:51] <Whyku> Hello!
#2327 [15:52] <SkiingPenguins> hi :D
#2328 [15:52] <Whyku> I know about the login and sever change but know am I am just timing out when join a Mp sever is that a error that the sever change is making?
#2329 [15:53] <Whyku> I get the login....then timed out
#2330 [15:53] <Whyku> Just want too know if its me.
#2331 [15:53] <mbentley> Whyku: yes, it is related
#2332 [15:53] <Whyku> Like the other error will keep trying maybe get me in?
#2333 [15:54] <Whyku> I know the java one if you keep trying you will get in is it like it with this one?
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#2338 [15:58] <Rasmus> well... I'll wait and see if anyone on the forum, has the answer to my problem :)
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#2340 [15:58] <Whyku> What is that you need help with?
#2341 [15:58] <Rasmus> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=147910
#2342 [16:00] <Whyku> Are you using any mods?
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#2344 [16:00] <Rasmus> no
#2345 [16:00] <Rasmus> But I can't even get to the point, where I can activate them
#2346 [16:01] <Whyku> Do you try not having any in your .minecraft file?
#2347 [16:01] <Whyku> Like a clean vison of minecraft.
#2348 [16:01] <Rasmus> I've tried yes.. didn't help :/
#2349 [16:01] <Whyku> Mod and or Texture pack.
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#2351 [16:02] <Whyku> Try run as administrator
#2352 [16:02] <Rasmus> HD Texture pack, but comes with my minecraft.exe
#2353 [16:03] <Rasmus> I've disabled UAC, shouldn't make any difference
#2354 [16:03] <Whyku> Do you have the patch?
#2355 [16:03] <Whyku> hmm
#2356 [16:03] <Rasmus> the latest version i have, is beta 1.2_01
#2357 [16:03] <Whyku> I mean the HD patch
#2358 [16:04] <Rasmus> but no matter which version I use, the error is the same
#2359 [16:04] <Koi> any estimation on when the servers will have migrated?
#2360 [16:04] <Rasmus> ahh... don't think so, no
#2361 [16:04] <Whyku> Let me find you a link.
#2362 [16:05] <Rasmus> Whyku: Couldn't I just set the texture to default in options.txt ?
#2363 [16:05] <Whyku> try that
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#2365 [16:06] <Rasmus> anyone know what the default texture is called?
#2366 [16:07] <TheReddeH> "default
#2367 [16:07] <Whyku> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=46173
#2368 [16:07] <Whyku> That will help with the HD.
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#2370 [16:09] <Whyku> You need the patcher also.
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#2373 [16:11] <Rasmus> Whyku: I'm just giving it a try, to overwrite with the exact files from my laptop, and setting the texture to default.zip first... even though I doubt it will help, and also doubt that the texture is the reason, as the game never even reaches the Mahjong logo.. :/
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#2375 [16:12] <Whyku> I am thinking.....hmmm
#2376 [16:13] <Whyku> Well i am sorrt too say that is all the help i can give you....
#2377 [16:14] <Whyku> Sorry man.
#2378 [16:14] <Whyku> If that does not work I don't know what else....
#2379 [16:14] <Rasmus> thanks for trying :) I'll just have to wait for the forum to respond :)
#2380 [16:15] <Whyku> If i have some ideas i will be back bye!
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#2384 [16:23] <reims> you probably hear this question a thousand times, but are the servers still down?
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#2386 [16:24] <Rait> say, if the servers are still down, can two people play on a server locally?
#2387 [16:25] <KillSpammer> Yes Rait
#2388 [16:25] <KillSpammer> If the server is setup correctly
#2389 [16:26] <Rait> alright. ^_^, gonna head to a friends, and i was curious cause we might play some minecraft.
#2390 [16:26] <Rait> lololol, i spawned 4 chickens from 1 egg.
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#2392 [16:28] <jefferyinc> So the reason i cant log in is due to the server issues right ?
#2393 [16:28] <KillSpammer> Lol Rait
#2394 [16:29] <KillSpammer> Yes jefferyinc
#2395 [16:29] <jefferyinc> ok thank you. I thought soomething was up with my account
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#2397 [16:30] <aetherian> man, people just don't stay to enjoy the company
#2398 [16:30] <KillSpammer> Yep...
#2399 [16:30] <KillSpammer> That guy was here for 4 lines of messages
#2400 [16:30] <KillSpammer> Horrible...
#2401 [16:32] <NinjaKirby> Damnit, you can't apply the Zombie Dungeon Farm design to Spiders, unless I'm being shortsighted
#2402 [16:33] <NinjaKirby> If you leave a one gap height for the loot to go through, then the spiders can make it... as well
#2403 [16:33] * Kealper installs windows 7 on someone's computer
#2403 [16:33] * Kealper loves the smell of a client's cash
#2403 [16:33] <NinjaKirby> How much are they paying you to click Next several times? :P
#2404 [16:33] <Kealper> $20 lol
#2405 [16:34] <NinjaKirby> XD Nice, I wouldn't argue
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#2407 [16:34] <Kealper> not bad, especially since it's an unattented setup disc that i'm using :P
#2408 [16:34] <NinjaKirby> Hehe :)
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#2411 [16:35] <KillSpammer> Notch should have his own Tv station
#2412 [16:35] <KillSpammer> Call it
#2413 [16:35] <KillSpammer> Notch Tv!
#2414 [16:35] <KillSpammer> :)
#2415 [16:35] <NinjaKirby> Live Stream of the MC Office?
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#2418 [16:36] <KillSpammer> Yep :)
#2419 [16:36] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#2420 [16:36] <NinjaKirby> ... O_o
#2421 [16:36] <KillSpammer> Lets hope Notch doesnt forget and acidently brings ez for a vist to the office
#2422 [16:36] <Cial> kinda stalker-ey
#2423 [16:36] <KillSpammer> I is the stalker
#2424 [16:36] <Cial> indeed
#2425 [16:37] <NinjaKirby> He is the I
#2426 [16:37] <KillSpammer> Every 5 mins i check if jeb is online
#2427 [16:37] <Kealper> online on what?
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#2429 [16:38] <KillSpammer> Nope :(
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#2432 [16:39] <Kealper> online on what?
#2433 [16:39] <Kealper> irc?
#2434 [16:40] <mib_3o0oa1> hey all
#2435 [16:40] <Kealper> hi
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#2437 [16:40] <mib_3o0oa1> im having some trouble if anyone can help
#2438 [16:41] <TheReddeH> i am go sleep goat nite
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#2440 [16:41] <KillSpammer> Whats the problem mib_3o0oa1
#2441 [16:41] <Kealper> mib_3o0oa1: what sort of trouble?
#2442 [16:41] <KillSpammer> I just ninja´d you
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#2444 [16:41] <mib_3o0oa1> my multiplayer server im running for me and my friends isnt working online for some reason
#2445 [16:42] <KillSpammer> Well...
#2446 [16:42] <Kealper> !website
#2447 [16:42] <KillSpammer> Minecraft.net is having problems at the moment
#2448 [16:42] <KillSpammer> Omfg...
#2449 [16:42] <KillSpammer> Ninja´d me now
#2450 [16:42] <mib_3o0oa1> haha
#2451 [16:42] <KillSpammer> Anyway
#2452 [16:42] <mib_3o0oa1> plus does any one here use heyo?
#2453 [16:42] <KillSpammer> Proberly...
#2454 [16:42] <Kealper> hey0 doesn't work anymore
#2455 [16:42] <Kealper> afaik
#2456 [16:43] <mib_3o0oa1> ah ok dang am i out of the loop
#2457 [16:43] <mib_3o0oa1> =/
#2458 [16:43] <KillSpammer> Hey0 is dead now
#2459 [16:43] <mib_3o0oa1> is there any new admin running program out there yet?
#2460 [16:44] <KillSpammer> Bukkit - Is sorta released
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#2462 [16:46] <kushirules> hello
#2463 [16:46] <kushirules> anyone therE?
#2464 [16:46] * Rait waves
#2464 [16:46] <kushirules> Can you help me with my SMP server Lag?
#2465 [16:47] <mib_3o0oa1> well thanks for the help every one im out peace
#2466 [16:47] <Rait> !website
#2467 [16:47] <kushirules> I have bought an old cheap PC to be my server and I want to use it but my friends complain about the Lag
#2468 [16:47] <kushirules> Can you help me?
#2469 [16:48] <DopeGhoti> kushirules: I think the "old, cheap" part might be the problem.
#2470 [16:48] <kushirules> no
#2471 [16:48] <kushirules> i mean i try it on my gaming pc
#2472 [16:48] <kushirules> too
#2473 [16:48] <kushirules> Lag lag lag
#2474 [16:48] <kushirules> I have fast internet too!
#2475 [16:49] <Rait> The website is going through moving issues, SMP isn't going to be working efficiently.
#2476 [16:49] <DopeGhoti> Please enumerate the nature of the hardware composition of the server.
#2477 [16:50] <kushirules> um
#2478 [16:50] <Kealper> lol
#2479 [16:50] <aetherian> when oh when will the server be set up ;_;
#2480 [16:50] <kushirules> HP Pavilion Elite m9510
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#2482 [16:51] <kushirules> Intel Core 2 Duo Processer Q8200
#2483 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> A model number isn't helpful, I'm not an HP salesmonkey.
#2484 [16:51] <kushirules> what do you neeD?
#2485 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> CPU (which you just enumerated), and RAM are the most pertinent,
#2486 [16:52] <kushirules> 8GB RAM
#2487 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> 64-bit OS?
#2488 [16:52] <kushirules> Yep
#2489 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> that oughnn't be having much lag unless you're running the server and client at the same time.
#2490 [16:53] <kushirules> oh
#2491 [16:53] <kushirules> thats probably it
#2492 [16:53] <kushirules> What if my server is on an identical computer
#2493 [16:53] <kushirules> next to me
#2494 [16:53] <kushirules> and my client is on this one
#2495 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> that should work fine, cloudside problems notwithstanding
#2496 [16:55] <kushirules> How does it make a difference if my server/old PC has a lower RAM
#2497 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft (both server and client) allocate quite a bit of RAM.
#2498 [16:56] <Kealper> (1gb by default)
#2499 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> ^this. So you'll need at least 1.5GiB (*nix) or 2GiB(Windows) to run the server well
#2500 [16:58] <kushirules> No
#2501 [16:58] <kushirules> I mean my cheap PC is running the server
#2502 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#2503 [16:58] <kushirules> My gaming one plays it
#2504 [16:58] <kushirules> its supposively laggy for my friends
#2505 [16:58] <Kealper> internet speed?
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#2507 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> stop downloading pr0n.
#2508 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> :)
#2509 [16:59] <Kealper> http://speedtest.net choose the recommended server
#2510 [16:59] <Kealper> paste your result link in here
#2511 [16:59] <Talls> Hello
#2512 [16:59] <Kealper> hello
#2513 [16:59] <kushirules> ?
#2514 [17:00] <Kealper> kushirules: http://speedtest.net go to that and run a speed test on the recommended (gold) server, then post the result in here, it will give you a link to the result after the test completes
#2515 [17:01] <kushirules> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1120432148.png
#2516 [17:01] <Talls> I'm having a bit of problem with my Minecraft, any chance someone could help me?
#2517 [17:01] <kushirules> yea
#2518 [17:01] <Rait> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1120432276.png
#2519 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> !website
#2520 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> Talls: ^
#2521 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> This will affect logging in also
#2522 [17:01] <Kealper> kushirules: hwo many people do you have on your server?
#2523 [17:01] <Kealper> because that upload speed is very low
#2524 [17:01] <kushirules> 2-4
#2525 [17:01] <Kealper> and upload is what really counts when it comes to serving
#2526 [17:02] <Kealper> do people only start complaining of lag when more people get on?
#2527 [17:02] <Rait> Mine not much better
#2528 [17:02] <kushirules> not really
#2529 [17:02] <Talls> I've never been able to login on minecraft on my own computer. Nothing to do with the moving to the new server...
#2530 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> Talls: how long a timespan does 'never' encompass?
#2531 [17:03] <Talls> Since i bought the game, 2-3 months ago
#2532 [17:03] <Kealper> kushirules: if i had to guess at the problem, i'd say it sits on that slow upload
#2533 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> Talls: I see. Apologies for jumping to conclusions.
#2534 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> Talls: what problems do you typically see?
#2535 [17:04] <kushirules> damn
#2536 [17:04] <Talls> Npnp, just a sec, i'll whip up some of the errors I get when starting
#2537 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> kushirules: stop your bittorrent client (:
#2538 [17:04] <kushirules> i dont have one!
#2539 [17:05] <DopeGhoti> kushirules: /me points at the '(:'.
#2540 [17:06] <Talls> And these copys i'll post is somewhat old, but i still have the same errors now.
#2541 [17:06] * kushirules hi
#2541 [17:06] <kushirules> what?
#2542 [17:06] <Talls> I've got the newest version of Java and everything, all drivers are up to date
#2543 [17:06] <kushirules> idgi
#2544 [17:07] <Talls> And btw, i cannot play ANY version of the game, classic, inbrowser or download
#2545 [17:07] <kushirules> allow access?
#2546 [17:07] <Talls> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: input == null!
#2547 [17:07] <Talls> at javax.imageio.ImageIO.read(Unknown Source)
#2548 [17:07] <Talls> at kd.<init>(SourceFile:27)
#2549 [17:07] <Talls> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.a(SourceFile:212)
#2550 [17:07] <Talls> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:554)
#2551 [17:07] <Talls> at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
#2552 [17:07] <Talls> --- END ERROR REPORT c8218fd4 ----------
#2553 [17:07] <Talls> I've tried
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#2555 [17:08] <Talls> I think anyway, i'm not so good with the technical stuff, but i've followed everything of the offical forum, all the "common" problems
#2556 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> Talls: Wow, that's actually an error trace I've not seen before
#2557 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> I presume you're tried deleting the .minecraft/bin/ directory already?
#2558 [17:09] <Talls> I've search high and low tried everything BUT format my disk
#2559 [17:09] <Talls> Yeah
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#2561 [17:10] <Talls> many, many times
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#2566 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> have you completely uninstalled Java and reinstalled it?
#2567 [17:10] <Talls> Yeah
#2568 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> which OS?
#2569 [17:10] <Talls> Windows 7
#2570 [17:11] <Talls> 64
#2571 [17:11] <Talls> This is the error i get now:Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.2_01
#2572 [17:11] <Talls> OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1
#2573 [17:11] <Talls> Java: 1.6.0_23, Sun Microsystems Inc.
#2574 [17:11] <Talls> VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc.
#2575 [17:11] <Talls> LWJGL: 2.4.2
#2576 [17:11] <Talls> OpenGL: GeForce GTX 260/PCI/SSE2 version 3.3.0, NVIDIA Corporation
#2577 [17:11] <Talls> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: input == null!
#2578 [17:11] <Talls> at javax.imageio.ImageIO.read(Unknown Source)
#2579 [17:11] <Talls> at nh.<init>(SourceFile:26)
#2580 [17:11] <Talls> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.a(SourceFile:296)
#2581 [17:11] <Talls> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:643)
#2582 [17:11] <Talls> at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
#2583 [17:11] <Talls> --- END ERROR REPORT fa43b445 ----------
#2584 [17:11] <Kealper> GRRR
#2585 [17:11] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com
#2586 [17:11] <Talls> Sorry for the spam
#2587 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> Talls: Is it Windows 64- or 32-bit? Because Java thinks it's 32-bit.
#2588 [17:12] <Kealper> i appriciate that your client does not apply flood control to that, so it gets sent quickly, but still :/
#2589 [17:13] <Talls> I've got 64-bit
#2590 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> Talls: Uninstall 32-bit Java; install 64-bit.
#2591 [17:14] <Talls> Sec, i'll try
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#2593 [17:15] <LordEddi> Hahaha!
#2594 [17:15] <LordEddi> Having some awesome times with a bunch of my mates that are new to the game xD
#2595 [17:16] <LordEddi> lovely xD
#2596 [17:16] <Roenie> isn't mc a 32bit application, so won't it need/use 32bit java anyway?
#2597 [17:16] <Kealper> sorta
#2598 [17:16] <LordEddi> Anyway to reset a world?
#2599 [17:16] <Roenie> "sorta"?
#2600 [17:16] <Kealper> it's 64 bit but Java has workarounds to make it work on 32 bit systems
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#2602 [17:17] <LordEddi> Nevermind, found a way of doing it.
#2603 [17:19] <NeoAngle> .i start my server with putty an when i now close putty and restart it how could i use it than?
#2604 [17:19] <LordEddi> How do you start it? With screen?
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#2607 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> NeoAngle: use either screen or nohup.
#2608 [17:21] <Roenie> screen, then launch the server, then Ctrl+A , Ctrl+D to detach from screen session, then exit and it will keep running
#2609 [17:21] <Roenie> but there is a chance you have to be root to run screen if your username is not allowed to run it
#2610 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> Roenie: It's ^a, d, not ^a^d
#2611 [17:22] <Roenie> i stand corrected
#2612 [17:22] <Roenie> both work though
#2613 [17:22] <Roenie> iirc, b/c it's what i've been doing lately ;-)
#2614 [17:23] <DopeGhoti> Not on all installations, some helpfully add a ^d bind; some do not (:
#2615 [17:23] <Roenie> oh
#2616 [17:23] <Roenie> serves em right for not using debian
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#2620 [17:26] <aetherian> are there any estimates as to when minecraft will be up consistently?
#2621 [17:26] <Roenie> 2034, when you are running a private server b/c notch doesnt support the game anymore by then
#2622 [17:27] <Roenie> /sarcasm
#2623 [17:27] <Roenie> *auth server
#2624 [17:27] <aetherian> yeah, when he releases the source.
#2625 [17:27] <aetherian> ..>
#2626 [17:27] <Roenie> right
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#2628 [17:28] <Roenie> not been up consistently since i started playing :/
#2629 [17:28] <aetherian> ugh
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#2631 [17:28] <Talls> The moment of truth...
#2632 [17:28] <aetherian> it's almost as if he's using a windows server
#2633 [17:28] <andResin> Hey, whats up
#2634 [17:28] <andResin> I got a problem
#2635 [17:28] <aetherian> hey res
#2636 [17:28] <Roenie> windows > linux
#2637 [17:28] <andResin> I don't know if it is the server or my
#2638 [17:28] <andResin> or me*
#2639 [17:29] <aetherian> roenie: linux>windows for servers
#2640 [17:29] <Roenie> even for servers linux < windows, and i run both
#2641 [17:29] <aetherian> I could care less about home computers.
#2642 [17:29] <aetherian> (except macs, they suck)
#2643 [17:29] * Roenie could care less about corporations
#2643 [17:29] <Kealper> couldn't*
#2644 [17:29] <NinjaKirby> Wtf, my Zombie's are learning, they understand that they shouldn't flow down the waterfall anymore, and EVERY one of them fights in continuously.
#2645 [17:29] <Roenie> indeed
#2646 [17:30] <aetherian> since when is windows server better than linux server, anyway.
#2647 [17:30] <aetherian> unless
#2648 [17:30] <aetherian> you like the color blue
#2649 [17:30] <aetherian> ;p
#2650 [17:31] <Roenie> even for companies, i have started to hate linux because it never cooperates and requires uber geeks to admin them effectively, which ultimately does no good in terms of TCO
#2651 [17:31] <aetherian> ohhh
#2652 [17:31] <andResin> When I wanna join into my server it says: Internal Client Error: java.net.Connectexception; Connection timed out: connect
#2653 [17:31] <aetherian> I get it
#2654 [17:31] <andResin> Any fix?
#2655 [17:31] <aetherian> you don't like learning how to use it
#2656 [17:31] <aetherian> my bad
#2657 [17:31] <aetherian> "consumer friendly" all the way
#2658 [17:31] <Roenie> i've studied and used linux for 8 years
#2659 [17:31] <aetherian> andresin: is the server up?
#2660 [17:31] <Roenie> and i've grown to dislike it
#2661 [17:32] <Roenie> it's a royal pain in the ass
#2662 [17:32] <aetherian> sure sure
#2663 [17:32] <aetherian> anyway
#2664 [17:32] <aetherian> resin?
#2665 [17:32] <Roenie> nothing "just works" on linux, not even your fucking keyboard
#2666 [17:32] <Roenie> /rant
#2667 [17:32] <Talls> Is it a problem is when downloading eveything from the server the the % bar and such if the text just keeps popping over eachother untill you cant read it and its just a block of white nothing?
#2668 [17:32] <aetherian> yes yes I get it, you like things to work with a click of a button.
#2669 [17:32] <Talls> And then error :(
#2670 [17:33] <Roenie> yes aetherian i do, strange, is it not
#2671 [17:33] <andResin> Yes, it is up
#2672 [17:33] <aetherian> yes it is strange.
#2673 [17:33] <aetherian> I'm sure you love vista, too.
#2674 [17:33] <Talls> Same error as before
#2675 [17:33] <aetherian> andresin: what server
#2676 [17:33] <andResin> I send u the IP?
#2677 [17:33] <andResin> its a SMP server
#2678 [17:33] <aetherian> yeah sure whatever
#2679 [17:33] <Roenie> i like to be in control of things but linux is a collection of tools that is riddled with bugs and badly/undocumented crap
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#2681 [17:34] <Roenie> sooooo many linux packages "kinda" work as workarounds, instead of actually being proper tools
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#2683 [17:34] <andResin> 109.169.64.237
#2684 [17:34] <aetherian> and I'm sure everyone agrees with you, ro
#2685 [17:35] <snb500> hello
#2686 [17:35] <aetherian> hello
#2687 [17:35] <aetherian> snub500
#2688 [17:35] <snb500> hru
#2689 [17:35] <Roenie> i am entitled to my opinion, am i not?
#2690 [17:35] <andResin> now it says
#2691 [17:35] <Roenie> as are you
#2692 [17:35] <andResin> failed to verify username
#2693 [17:35] <aetherian> you are, roenie, just as I am entitled to state mine.
#2694 [17:35] <aetherian> unless it involves obscenity, of course.
#2695 [17:35] <Rait> I think that error that andResin is getting is related to the website going down.
#2696 [17:36] <Rait> I got it several times, and now and then i get in my own server.
#2697 [17:36] <Roenie> aetherian, obscenity?
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#2699 [17:36] <aetherian> yes. need me to explain what I meant by my statement?
#2700 [17:36] <Roenie> do you always go into condescending mode, when someone drops the f word?
#2701 [17:36] <snb500> is will here
#2702 [17:37] <aetherian> roenie: go to some other channel, ima try to help resin
#2703 [17:37] <Roenie> or only when people disagree with you
#2704 [17:37] * aetherian laughs
#2704 [17:37] <Roenie> i'll stay right here thank you
#2705 [17:37] <Kealper> what's going on?
#2706 [17:37] <aetherian> nothing.
#2707 [17:37] <Roenie> nah we're done :)
#2708 [17:37] <aetherian> just... nothing.
#2709 [17:38] <aetherian> resin: I get to the logging in page
#2710 [17:38] <aetherian> but of course that doesn't work really
#2711 [17:38] <andResin> oh
#2712 [17:38] <andResin> let me try
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#2715 [17:39] <aetherian> and I don't think I'm getting any further than that
#2716 [17:39] <aetherian> :)
#2717 [17:39] <lilpope> how do I make a link to my server?
#2718 [17:39] <aetherian> lilpope: you don't.
#2719 [17:40] <aetherian> thought that would be cool...
#2720 [17:40] <lilpope> darn :/
#2721 [17:40] <lilpope> that would be nice
#2722 [17:41] <aetherian> wouldn't it though
#2723 [17:42] <lilpope> do you know of a way to make a batch file wait for like 5 seconds? I
#2724 [17:42] <lilpope> I'm using ping google three times as a wait XD
#2725 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> From the depths of the scrollback buffer, I stab at thee: Roenie, if you're going to rant about an OS, at least rant about things that _happen_. Keyboards do, in fact, "just work" on Linux. And Windows needs just as much tender care and feeding as Linux does. One could argue more, but I'm not going to.
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#2727 [17:44] <Ronjoe> tl;dr: stfu, youre wrong and nobody cares
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#2729 [17:45] <Calendula> anybody else having problems with their servers?
#2730 [17:45] <KillSpammer> Everyone is
#2731 [17:45] <Ronjoe> Calendula: minecraft.net is still effed up
#2732 [17:45] <KillSpammer> Server problems
#2733 [17:45] <KillSpammer> Thank you
#2734 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> Calendula: Servers no, clients yes.
#2735 [17:45] <KillSpammer> Bye :)
#2736 [17:45] <Calendula> like taking too long to log in their own servers?
#2737 [17:45] <Calendula> hrm
#2738 [17:45] <Calendula> client is running just fine...my server is now not letting people on..updated both..
#2739 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> My server's running just fine, and once in a while people even manage to get on and play a whlie :)
#2740 [17:46] <lilpope> set your servers online mode or whatever to false then you can have clients connect without authenticating to minecraft.net first
#2741 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> the problem is with the centralized authentication servers, which are down.
#2742 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> see notch.tumblr.com
#2743 [17:46] <Calendula> I'll try that lilpope.
#2744 [17:46] <lilpope> use my fix if you don't care about the authentication
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#2746 [17:46] <whyku> Ok
#2747 [17:47] <whyku> I now can't open my chat window in minecraft.....because of the update?
#2748 [17:47] <KillSpammer> Erm
#2749 [17:47] <lilpope> try restarting the client?
#2750 [17:47] <whyku> k
#2751 [17:48] <Calendula> there we go now it works
#2752 [17:48] <lilpope> :D
#2753 [17:48] <whyku> Update?
#2754 [17:48] <Talls> Hello, I cannot play any version of Minecraft, classic, inbrowser or download version. I've tried to reinstall Java, deleted .minecraft. Searched high and low for something to solve my problem. My error: http://pastebin.com/98K1bc03 | DopeGhoti It didn't work with the 64-bit version of java either. | If anyone have any other solutions or suggestions please, help!
#2755 [17:48] <whyku> Again.
#2756 [17:48] <Calendula> no offline mode
#2757 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> whyku: what update?
#2758 [17:48] <whyku> I got too updates in a roll
#2759 [17:49] <Calendula> I know m on 3 now
#2760 [17:49] <lilpope> online-mode=false
#2761 [17:49] <Ronjoe> Talls: perhaps minecraft.net is messed up?
#2762 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> there have been no actual updates; the timestamps of the files changes but there were no changes to the code.
#2763 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> there will, however, be server and client updates after the transistion is complete.
#2764 [17:50] <whyku> I still can't open my window....my chat window....
#2765 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> whyku: Minecraft doesn't ahve a "chat window"
#2766 [17:50] <lilpope> whyku: are you on windows?
#2767 [17:50] <whyku> anyelse?
#2768 [17:50] <whyku> I mean like you hit t
#2769 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> it has an overlay when you're typing though
#2770 [17:50] <whyku> Ya that thing
#2771 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> but that only works in multiplayer; not SSP
#2772 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> whyku: check your options, make sure the T key is still bound?
#2773 [17:51] <whyku> ..I have a mod..that could be
#2774 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> probably.
#2775 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> mods aren't supported here.
#2776 [17:51] <lilpope> Talls: are you on windows?
#2777 [17:51] <whyku> i know that
#2778 [17:51] <whyku> Ya
#2779 [17:51] <whyku> Windows 7 home 32bit
#2780 [17:51] <Talls> Ronjoe: No, i don't think so, since i've had this problem for atleast 2-3 months, never been able to play minecraft on my own computer
#2781 [17:52] <Talls> Windows 7, 64-bit
#2782 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> Talls: Hrm, sorrt 64-bit didn't help :(
#2783 [17:52] <Ronjoe> hmm this is strange
#2784 [17:52] <Talls> DopeGhoti: Yeah :(
#2785 [17:52] <lilpope> so no saves that you care about on that computer?
#2786 [17:52] <whyku> Me?
#2787 [17:52] <Ronjoe> have you tried using Java 32-bit?
#2788 [17:52] <lilpope> Talls:
#2789 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> hah
#2790 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> Talls: this is kind of out there, but try this:
#2791 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> make a new user profile, and try playing from there?
#2792 [17:53] <Ronjoe> DopeGhoti: this isnt his issue
#2793 [17:53] <Ronjoe> the game won't load
#2794 [17:53] <Talls> Nope, none
#2795 [17:53] <Roenie> DopeGhoti, w/e
#2796 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> Ronjoe: I am capable of reading.
#2797 [17:53] <Talls> Ronjoe: Yeah, had that before, didn't work
#2798 [17:53] <Ronjoe> hmm
#2799 [17:54] <lilpope> I would say press windows key and the "r" key at the same time and type %%appdata% in there then delete the .minecraft folder and then try playing minecraft
#2800 [17:54] <Talls> DopeGhoti: You mean as a new computer profile?
#2801 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> lilpope: Talls has tried that :)
#2802 [17:54] <lilpope> darn
#2803 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> Talls: I mean as a new Windows user profile
#2804 [17:54] <Ronjoe> hmm
#2805 [17:54] <Ronjoe> ah
#2806 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> Talls: create a new user, log in as that user, and see if it behaves any differently
#2807 [17:54] <Ronjoe> i see what you mean
#2808 [17:54] <lilpope> try running the minecraft.exe as administrator?
#2809 [17:55] <Talls> DopeGhoti: I'll try
#2810 [17:55] <Ronjoe> get the linux downloadable, thats universal
#2811 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> Talls: fingers crossed :)
#2812 [17:55] <Talls> Ronjoe: Yeah, long time ago though.. atleast a month
#2813 [17:55] <Talls> Gave up on minecraft after about a month of trying to get it running
#2814 [17:55] <Talls> Never thought of another profile though
#2815 [17:56] <lilpope> we should make a linux distro that just has the bare minimum to run minecraft with a get option for the most recent jar file and boots into full screen minecraft rather than a GUI it could even be run on netbooks
#2816 [17:56] <Ronjoe> hmm, if this gets to the "grab a linux livecd" stage, ----- ninjad
#2817 [17:56] <Lorax> my client is updating every time I login
#2818 [17:56] <Roenie> netbooks are not powerful enough to run the server, generally
#2819 [17:57] <lilpope> lorax it's just a problem with the server ad the migration deal
#2820 [17:57] <lilpope> thats normal
#2821 [17:57] <lilpope> I was saying linux for client on netbooks not server
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#2823 [17:57] <whyku> How do i remove the minecraft client....
#2824 [17:57] <Roenie> guess you could, if you want sucky performance
#2825 [17:57] <Ronjoe> Talls: while doing this, can you possibly download the Linux Mint LiveDVD?
#2826 [17:57] * Roenie hides
#2826 [17:58] <whyku> it will not go away!!!
#2827 [17:58] <Talls> I've done almost everything said in the offical forums, with the .jar file and .exe and command lies and such
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#2829 [17:58] <Ronjoe> if all else fails, that WILL run it
#2830 [17:58] <Lorax> it's a bug, there should be at least an incremented build number and different hash before a client gets an update, just for security
#2831 [17:58] <lilpope> whyku: what do you mean remove?
#2832 [17:58] <Talls> Ronjoe: Linux Mint LiveDVD, what's that?
#2833 [17:58] <Ronjoe> Talls: http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=70
#2834 [17:58] <hexparrot> unnecessary
#2835 [17:59] <Ronjoe> its a linux based off of ubuntu
#2836 [17:59] <whyku> Make everything minecraft go bye bye
#2837 [17:59] <lilpope> Talls: it's a free operating system that can run from the cd and they are suggesting you could download it burn it to a disk and play minecraft like that
#2838 [17:59] <whyku> So i can get all my mods of my pc they all suck
#2839 [17:59] <Ronjoe> if all else fails, try another operating system
#2840 [17:59] <Ronjoe> thats my motto
#2841 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> Talls: Big. I'd recommand a smaller LiveCD for convenience's sake
#2842 [17:59] <Ronjoe> BUT
#2843 [17:59] <lilpope> whyku: press the windows key and the r key at the same time
#2844 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#2845 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> whyku: ^
#2846 [18:00] <hexparrot> yeah, id agree. mint is way too large for only one purpose--client playing
#2847 [18:00] <Ronjoe> the live dvd is only slightly bigger
#2848 [18:00] <lilpope> type in %appdata% and hit enter
#2849 [18:00] <lilpope> delete the .minecraft folder
#2850 [18:00] <Ronjoe> by about 200MB
#2851 [18:00] <Ronjoe> and has java preinstalled
#2852 [18:00] <lilpope> it will delete you saves
#2853 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> lilpope: please don't use \n as a comma.
#2854 [18:00] <andResin> he
#2855 [18:00] <andResin> hey
#2856 [18:01] <andResin> when I wanna join in to my server
#2857 [18:01] <andResin> it says
#2858 [18:01] <lilpope> DopeGhoti: where did I do that?
#2859 [18:01] <Ronjoe> DopeGhoti: you just summed up all of my bad habits in irc
#2860 [18:01] <andResin> Failed to verify username
#2861 [18:01] <andResin> any fix?
#2862 [18:01] <Roenie> running it off a live distro is probably going to be slow
#2863 [18:01] <lilpope> yeah
#2864 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> lilpope: for about the last 8 lines, just as andResin is doing now /o\
#2865 [18:01] <Ronjoe> Roenie: but itll run
#2866 [18:01] <LordEddi> hm
#2867 [18:01] <lilpope> online-mode=false
#2868 [18:01] <Ronjoe> as compared to, not running
#2869 [18:01] <lilpope> I don't see the \n's I'm on Mibbit sorry
#2870 [18:02] <andResin> what i need to do?
#2871 [18:02] <Talls> Brb then, i'll try DopeGhoti's profile thing
#2872 [18:02] <lilpope> andResin: put online-mode=false in your server configuration file rather than the online-mode=true
#2873 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> lilpope: in other words, please stop pressing enter after every three words.
#2874 [18:02] <andResin> oh
#2875 [18:02] <andResin> thanks
#2876 [18:02] <Roenie> Ronjoe, it's likely to be so slow he'll have to start looking at the gfx drivers, at which point he'll spend another month trying to compile those
#2877 [18:02] <Ronjoe> Roenie: except that ist not a pain
#2878 [18:03] <Ronjoe> linux mint is built off of ubuntu, which has a handy little driver tool
#2879 [18:03] <lilpope> he could just install ubuntu :/
#2880 [18:04] <Ronjoe> Linux Mint is almost identical to ubuntu, except for some theme changes and uptating software
#2881 [18:04] <Solvius> I tried to install ubuntu, after that the problems start
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#2883 [18:04] <Ronjoe> i run it on my laptop
#2884 [18:04] <lilpope> Solvius: what problems?
#2885 [18:04] <Solvius> for a beginner its hell :)
#2886 [18:04] <Ronjoe> indeed, it is
#2887 [18:05] <Ronjoe> i remember starting
#2888 [18:05] <LordEddi> Any recommended specs for hosting a mindcraft server?
#2889 [18:05] <Ronjoe> "WTF JAVA DOESNT WORK"
#2890 [18:05] <Ronjoe> "FUCK THIS"
#2891 [18:05] <lilpope> Every time I try it on my laptop the wireless driver doesn't work
#2892 [18:05] <LordEddi> mine even
#2893 [18:05] <Solvius> java is not installed lol
#2894 [18:05] <Talls> WOOOHO!!!!!!!!
#2895 [18:05] <Ronjoe> lilpope: all distros have that issue
#2896 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> Ronjoe: not really.
#2897 [18:05] <Talls> It works on the F-ing other profile
#2898 [18:05] <lilpope> LordEddi: 3ghz dual core and 2gb of ram
#2899 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> Talls: \i/
#2900 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> Talls: I mean \o/
#2901 [18:05] <Ronjoe> lilpope: ubuntu (and thus, LM) have a tool for proprietary drivers
#2902 [18:06] <LordEddi> >.> Really, was hoping my atom little machine would do the trick..
#2903 [18:06] <Ronjoe> which needs to be used to get that running
#2904 [18:06] <LordEddi> but i guess not then :p
#2905 [18:06] <Talls> Then the only question is, why doesn't it work on my current profile?...
#2906 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> Talls: now all you need to do is find what you're running normally that gets in the way of Minecraft :)
#2907 [18:06] <Ronjoe> lol, checking settings one-by-one
#2908 [18:06] <Ronjoe> thatll be a pain
#2909 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> Ronjoe: that's Windows for you (:
#2910 [18:07] <Ronjoe> indeed
#2911 [18:07] <Talls> AAh.. WHY!?
#2912 [18:07] <Talls> :p
#2913 [18:07] <LordEddi> Argh, my mates are playing on my server right now...while I am stuck trying to login :p
#2914 [18:07] <LordEddi> Life is unfair!
#2915 [18:07] <Ronjoe> Talls: i'd start in graphics options
#2916 [18:07] <Ronjoe> then sound
#2917 [18:07] <Ronjoe> then--- well, idk, ive never gotten past that point
#2918 [18:07] <Talls> :p
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#2921 [18:08] <mrsexyknight> is me failing to verify my username part of the server move isshues?
#2922 [18:08] <Ronjoe> yes
#2923 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> yes.
#2924 [18:08] <MyDreamName> I would suppose so, since it verifies it against the server.
#2925 [18:09] <lilpope> LordEddi: are you really running a server on an Atom processor?
#2926 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> see also Mojang's web guy's twitter feed.
#2927 [18:09] <Roenie> Talls, tried uninstalling java, then deleting the java cache folder (it doesn't remove it), then reinstalling?
#2928 [18:09] <LordEddi> lilpope: I was..for a tinsy bit.
#2929 [18:09] <mrsexyknight> then himwe come a freind of myine is abke to login to my server but im not ?
#2930 [18:09] <mrsexyknight> able*
#2931 [18:09] <lilpope> mrsexyknight: yes it is if it's your server you can change to this option in config online-mode=false
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#2933 [18:09] <LordEddi> Moved it to the linuxserver now tho.
#2934 [18:09] <mrsexyknight> nope i run bukkit it doesnt cahnge a thing
#2935 [18:10] <Talls> I think i'll just use the other profile as my Minecraft-profile, and just install skype and whatnot on it
#2936 [18:10] <LordEddi> A "tad" more sited ;)
#2937 [18:10] <Roenie> Talls, ive had problems with java apps at work before, that were only fixed by said procedure
#2938 [18:10] <LordEddi> suited even
#2939 [18:10] <mrsexyknight> linux>a rock>mac>windows
#2940 [18:10] <Roenie> when the app didnt work on the users profile
#2941 [18:11] <Roenie> but did work when i logged on as admin
#2942 [18:11] <Roenie> so, yeah. ;)
#2943 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> Talls: glad we got you at least some form of solution :)
#2944 [18:11] <LordEddi> Auth seems to be tottttally down now.
#2945 [18:11] <Roenie> the cache is profile specific
#2946 [18:11] <Roenie> i would bet money that that's your problem
#2947 [18:11] <Talls> Thanks guys, i can fool around a bit on my current profile, but now i can atleast play it for the first time.
#2948 [18:12] <Talls> On my own computer that is..
#2949 [18:12] <andResin> that dont fix my problem
#2950 [18:12] <MyDreamName> And what's your problem?
#2951 [18:12] <Ronjoe> hmm
#2952 [18:13] <Ronjoe> his problem is that his irc client inserts \n every five lines
#2953 [18:13] <Roenie> Talls, FYI, c:\Users\roenie\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\Deployment\cache\
#2954 [18:13] <Ronjoe> five words*
#2955 [18:13] <andResin> failed to verify username
#2956 [18:13] <Talls> Sec Ronjoe
#2957 [18:13] <Ronjoe> andResin: well, you got to take the hurp out of your derp
#2958 [18:14] <Ronjoe> andResin: minecraft.net is down
#2959 [18:15] <Talls> Ronjoe, just i delete 6.0 there?
#2960 [18:15] <Ronjoe> what?
#2961 [18:15] <Talls> I just*
#2962 [18:15] <Ronjoe> what did you delete?
#2963 [18:15] <Talls> In the cache folder, should i delete the 6.0 folder there?
#2964 [18:15] <Ronjoe> i dont know
#2965 [18:15] <Talls> I havn't deleted anything yet :p
#2966 [18:15] <Ronjoe> Roenie: answer this, please
#2967 [18:16] <Talls> Oh, wrong name :p
#2968 [18:16] <Talls> haha
#2969 [18:16] <Talls> Roenie: Do i just delete the folder in the cache folder?
#2970 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> Talls: if you don't have any java running, you can delete everything in /cache/
#2971 [18:17] <Ronjoe> *bluescreen* *we all lol*
#2972 [18:17] <Talls> *Talls has gone offline* xD
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#2974 [18:18] <MyDreamName> The notification is a lie.
#2975 [18:18] <MyDreamName> And so is this Mango.
#2976 [18:18] <MyDreamName> BE GONE!
#2977 [18:18] <Ronjoe> hmm
#2978 [18:18] <TheEpicMango> oO
#2979 [18:18] * Ronjoe grabs TheEpicMango
#2979 [18:18] * Ronjoe sticks him into the juicer
#2979 [18:18] <lemon-rev> hum, update from mc ??? theres nothign from notch ?
#2980 [18:18] * Ronjoe sets down his juice next to Annoying Orange
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#2982 [18:19] <Talls> Didn't work, i'll stick to my minecraft profile for the time being
#2983 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> that was.. strange.
#2984 [18:19] <Talls> Thanks though
#2985 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> Talls: try end-taking everything in the task mangler before starting MC?
#2986 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> (or have you jumped through that hoop already?)
#2987 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> It's almost definitely something that's running under your regular profile.
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#2994 [18:21] <Talls> Pretty much jumped :p though i'll try more later, i'm just happy i can play :p
#2995 [18:23] <Talls> But yeah, i'll be trying more when minecraft has gotten to the new server and such, seems to be alot of traffic and problems right now
#2996 [18:24] <Talls> Thanks everyone, i'll be back!
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#2999 [18:26] <LordEddi> Can I spawn some mobs on my friends playing on my server?
#3000 [18:26] <MyDreamName> Seems like a lot of the current issues just have to do with the servers being down.
#3001 [18:26] <LordEddi> I am bored since I cant get back on xD.
#3002 [18:26] <MyDreamName> I don't believe you can do more than set mobs to on using a vanilla server, Lord.
#3003 [18:26] <MyDreamName> There's probably a mod so you can spawn 50 cows ontop of a player for whatever reason, though.
#3004 [18:27] <LordEddi> darn :p
#3005 [18:27] <LordEddi> I dont have that mod right now.
#3006 [18:29] <aetherian> haha
#3007 [18:30] <aetherian> 50 creepers in the guys house ;p
#3008 [18:30] <SkiingPenguins> boom.
#3009 [18:30] <aetherian> no
#3010 [18:30] <aetherian> not if noone is there
#3011 [18:30] <LordEddi> think i found out why i cant login..
#3012 [18:30] <aetherian> it just makes the house off limits
#3013 [18:30] <aetherian> unless
#3014 [18:30] <LordEddi> minecraft.net wont resolve here :(
#3015 [18:30] <aetherian> you hide them in the basement :O
#3016 [18:31] <aetherian> *whistle* well, I'm going to go get some wood, be right back. *BOOM*
#3017 [18:31] <MyDreamName> Am I the only one who cheats and sets my difficulty to peaceful when I see like 20 creepers around my base?
#3018 [18:32] <aetherian> yes
#3019 [18:32] <aetherian> wussy
#3020 [18:32] * SkiingPenguins doesnt even try to use anything other than peaceful
#3020 [18:32] <Rait> Does anyone know how to connect to this irc?
#3021 [18:32] <Rait> I got an app for irc, but idk how to connect, the hostname doesn't work
#3022 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> irc.esper.net?
#3023 [18:33] <Rait> mhm
#3024 [18:33] <Rait> ill try it again though
#3025 [18:34] <Rait> port number?
#3026 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> The leaf I'm on is...
#3027 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> apocalypse.esper.net [204.152.221.218]
#3028 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> port 5555
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#3030 [18:35] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#3031 [18:35] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, your back
#3032 [18:35] <KillSpammer> Stupid bot
#3033 [18:35] * GreyBot bonks KillSpammer, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#3033 [18:35] <KillSpammer> :)
#3034 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#3035 [18:36] <KillSpammer> We found that command acidently
#3036 [18:36] <KillSpammer> :)
#3037 [18:36] <KillSpammer> While insulting AuBot
#3038 [18:36] <MyDreamName> Stupid bot
#3039 [18:36] * GreyBot bonks MyDreamName, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#3039 [18:37] <MyDreamName> You have no artificial intelligence.
#3040 [18:37] <MyDreamName> So ha!
#3041 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> !grey off
#3042 [18:37] * GreyVulpine pffts
#3042 [18:37] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#3043 [18:37] <KillSpammer> Anyway
#3044 [18:37] <aetherian> haha
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#3046 [18:38] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, what skills do you have?
#3047 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Well, I can count to ten, does that count?
#3048 [18:38] <KillSpammer> Yes
#3049 [18:38] <aetherian> =o
#3050 [18:38] <KillSpammer> Programming/Music/Art and such
#3051 [18:38] <aetherian> I learned how to do that yesterday!
#3052 [18:38] <mib_tgrtyq> Hey guys
#3053 [18:38] <SkiingPenguins> hello
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#3055 [18:39] <Rait> now i got a username issue, or do i have to use a different username then the one i use on my computer?
#3056 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Um, for an irc network?
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#3058 [18:40] <Rait> an app on the ipod
#3059 [18:40] <mib_tgrtyq> I'm getting an error when I, or anyone else for that matter connects to my server; "internal client error: java.netConnectException: Connection timed out: connect
#3060 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> You can only have one unique username per connection
#3061 [18:41] <mib_tgrtyq> does anyone have any idea what could be causing this
#3062 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> It can't use the same nick
#3063 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> mib_tgrtyq - Most likely, the server move for authentication is screwing with servers right now mib_tgrtyq
#3064 [18:42] <LordEddi> GreyVulpine; Do you know what minecraft.net should be resolving to by any chance?
#3065 [18:43] <aetherian> I can't wait till the "update" is over...
#3066 [18:43] <nipper> server load
#3067 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> www.minecraft.net is an alias for minecraft-main-1712089420.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com.
#3068 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> minecraft-main-1712089420.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com has address 184.73.249.213
#3069 [18:43] <LordEddi> Trying to get past it not resolving, by updating the hosts file.
#3070 [18:43] <LordEddi> Ok, thanks
#3071 [18:43] <LordEddi> Hm.
#3072 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> bah, ninja'd
#3073 [18:43] <LordEddi> Guess that might differ based on region tho.
#3074 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> heh.
#3075 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> I get the same thing
#3076 [18:44] <LordEddi> got a UK user to do the same, and he got 184.73.249.118
#3077 [18:44] <LordEddi> aight
#3078 [18:44] <LordEddi> ill try it with that one then
#3079 [18:44] <mib_tgrtyq> thanks
#3080 [18:44] <Eddga> my client suddenly started to update itself everytime i run it
#3081 [18:44] <Eddga> is there a way to stop it?
#3082 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> Eddga: not as such. These self-nonupdates should stop soon though
#3083 [18:45] <Eddga> so it's a common problem now?
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#3085 [18:45] <Eddga> or it's just me? -_-
#3086 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> It is common
#3087 [18:45] <Eddga> ok, thx
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#3089 [18:45] <LordEddi> Darn, updating the hostfile didnt work either :(
#3090 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> they moved to a clustered structure, so the timestamps on the files are no longer static.
#3091 [18:47] <Eddga> at least it works :o
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#3094 [18:47] <sarkofag> first of all, tnx for a really funny game. My question is when I die can I still find my construction?
#3095 [18:47] <sarkofag> or do I have to build a new one?
#3096 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> sarkofag: if you can find your way to it, it should still be there.
#3097 [18:48] <KillSpammer> Press F13 - See what happens
#3098 [18:48] <sarkofag> Ok great. Thanks!
#3099 [18:48] <KillSpammer> Rate my troll?
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#3101 [18:49] <sarkofag> have to find my way to my cave now! :)
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#3104 [18:50] * SkiingPenguins cannot find F13
#3104 [18:50] <aetherian> f13 is the godmodder for all games
#3105 [18:50] <SkiingPenguins> perhaps laptops dont have one
#3106 [18:50] <aetherian> how can't you find it
#3107 [18:50] <aetherian> maybe not
#3108 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> my keyboard's function keys go up to 19.
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#3110 [18:51] <aetherian> ono
#3111 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> oyes.
#3112 [18:53] <aetherian> I was onoing something else
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#3120 [19:09] <aetherian> pop goes the weasel
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#3123 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> yay, one last "update" and fixed!
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#3125 [19:17] <dakira> I just ordered a gift-certificate for a friend forgetting about the server migration. Is the order lost in the air now, or will I get the certificate one day?
#3126 [19:17] <lemon-rev> whats fixed dopeghoti
#3127 [19:18] <lemon-rev> check your email and just see if its gone though or not
#3128 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> dakira - As long as you've still got the payment information and email, you can send proof of payment to mojang if it doesn't go through
#3129 [19:19] <dakira> lemon-rev, GreyVulpine: okay.. thx..
#3130 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: nothing other than the perpetual updates
#3131 [19:21] <lemon-rev> hm
#3132 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> they fixed the client seeing the cloud as always-newer
#3133 [19:21] <lemon-rev> i see
#3134 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> no actual client or server code updates today.
#3135 [19:21] <lemon-rev> how can you tell, what they have done since i see notch still hasnt updated hes blog
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#3137 [19:22] <i81u812> so when you plant a tree from the saplings will it be a "birch" if the sapling seed came from that tree or are they all currently the orig. wood?
#3138 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: http://www.twitter.com/notch and http://www.twitter.com/mollstam
#3139 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> i81u812: presently, all saplings make the old-style trees.
#3140 [19:22] <i81u812> damn
#3141 [19:22] <i81u812> then new ones are interesting
#3142 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> indeed
#3143 [19:23] <i81u812> I still havent seen a squid...
#3144 [19:23] <i81u812> I play for hours a day....
#3145 [19:23] <Roenie> dive deep
#3146 [19:23] <Roenie> to the bottom
#3147 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> i81u812: bring some air :p
#3148 [19:23] <i81u812> I do then I look up...
#3149 [19:23] <i81u812> bring some air...
#3150 [19:23] <i81u812> ?
#3151 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> so as not to drown?
#3152 [19:24] <i81u812> damn my map went from 19 to 26 mb in an hour
#3153 [19:24] <lemon-rev> how yu take air lol
#3154 [19:24] <i81u812> how would I go about bringing air I dont use any mods or spawners
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#3156 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Various ways.
#3157 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Planting a door will create a pocket of air
#3158 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> planting a block, then a ladder piece on a side will create a pocket of air
#3159 [19:25] <i81u812> I need to make a door frame though correct ?
#3160 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> No
#3161 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Just a piece of solid ground
#3162 [19:26] <i81u812> well then I'm learning everyday
#3163 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> I haven't tried, but reeds will create air, and still allow passage
#3164 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Don't know if you can plant it underwater though
#3165 [19:27] <Roenie> i wonder if those and other "exploits" (minecart boosting springs to mind) are there by design, or coincidental
#3166 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> the boosters were a byproduct, and Notch has said that they most likely will not be there in the final version
#3167 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> As for the rest, I don't know.
#3168 [19:28] <Roenie> ah
#3169 [19:28] <zz> I would say accident, byproduct of only having one block in a space
#3170 [19:29] <Roenie> you can get 2 minecarts in 1 space tho
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#3172 [19:29] <zz> Yes, they aren't blocks
#3173 [19:30] <i81u812> I hate forgetting my compass.....
#3174 [19:30] <MyDreamName> Hi, I wanted to ask about one of the rules on the Minecraft page. The rule is "Do not flood. Do not spam. Finish your sentences before pressing enter.". But I wanted to know if I could get in trouble by accidently pressing enter instead of an apostrophe, like I
#3175 [19:30] <MyDreamName> 'm doing now, somewhat humorously but intentionally.
#3176 [19:31] <peru_> ^-^
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#3181 [19:35] <MyDreamName> Hey...
#3182 [19:35] <MyDreamName> Minecraft.net is up.
#3183 [19:35] <SkiingPenguins> yep
#3184 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> MyDreamName: doing so inadvertantly isn't problematic, that admonition is more to the folks that treat IRC like SMS or Twitter, and press Enter after every third word.
#3185 [19:40] <Roenie> but what if said user is from a third word country?
#3186 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> Then ey shall be hoist upun eir own petard.
#3187 [19:42] <NinjaKirby> The third word.
#3188 [19:43] <MyDreamName> Yeah, that sucks.
#3189 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> It sure does.
#3190 [19:43] <MyDreamName> Stupid short messages.
#3191 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> Flooding's sure annoying.
#3192 [19:44] * DopeGhoti 'll stop now.
#3192 [19:44] <MyDreamName> Good for you.
#3193 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> Damn; can't resist:
#3194 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> Happy to help!
#3195 [19:45] <MyDreamName> Glad to hear!
#3196 [19:45] * NinjaKirby stares blankly
#3196 [19:45] <Roenie> —Idiom
#3197 [19:45] <Roenie> 4.
#3198 [19:45] <Roenie> hoist by / withone's own petard, hurt, ruined, or destroyed by the very device or plot one had intended for another.
#3199 [19:46] <Roenie> –noun
#3200 [19:46] <Roenie> 1.
#3201 [19:46] <Roenie> an explosive device formerly used in warfare to blow in a door or gate, form a breach in a wall, etc.
#3202 [19:46] <MyDreamName> Well, that's unexpected.
#3203 [19:47] <Roenie> ( initial capital letter ) Also called Flying Dustbin. a British spigot mortar of World War II that fired a 40-pound (18 kg) finned bomb, designed to destroy pillboxes and other concrete obstacles.
#3204 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> O,o
#3205 [19:47] <Roenie> 18kg damn
#3206 [19:48] * DopeGhoti looks around to ensure he's not in #wordandphraseorigins
#3206 [19:48] <MyDreamName> You're fine, Dope.
#3207 [19:48] <Roenie> DopeGhoti, note by/with, not upon
#3208 [19:48] <MyDreamName> You're in #minecrafthelp.
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#3210 [19:50] <MyDreamName> You needn't worry.
#3211 [19:50] <Roenie> from M.Fr. péter "break wind," from O.Fr. pet "a fart," from L. peditum, properly neut. pp. of pedere "to break wind"
#3212 [19:51] <MyDreamName> Why the definitions?
#3213 [19:51] * Roenie hoists DopeGhoti upon his own fart
#3213 [19:51] <Roenie> well, would you prefer to conintue with the 3 word sentences?
#3214 [19:52] <MyDreamName> I don't understand.
#3215 [19:52] <Roenie> well, would you prefer to continue with the 3 word sentences?
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#3217 [19:53] <MyDreamName> You're repeating yourself.
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#3219 [19:53] <MyDreamName> Quiet in here.
#3220 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> Roenie: there's a reason I spelled it 'u_pun_'. :p
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#3222 [19:54] <Roenie> nice save
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#3224 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> 'save'? It was deliberate.
#3225 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> (also,
#3226 [19:54] <Roenie> 2011-01-21 01:34:08 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is t
#3227 [19:54] <Roenie> he server overloaded? <-- ohhh the irony
#3228 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> (oops), 'hoist upon one's own petard' is also common usage)
#3229 [19:55] <MyDreamName> Dope, may I have to remind you that the rules CLEARLY state to type out the whole sentence before pressing enter? (Also, COMBO BREAKER!)
#3230 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> and no, the most ironic message I've seen from the server is (paraphrased) "$user has disconnected: genericReason"
#3231 [19:56] <Dazuro> i get that a lot :(
#3232 [19:56] <MyDreamName> Ha, I've seen that too.
#3233 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> I quite literally Led OL when I saw it the first time.
#3234 [19:56] <MyDreamName> I think that happens when someone just presses the red X on the corner of their game.
#3235 [19:57] <MyDreamName> Sorry, I was grammatically incorrect.
#3236 [19:57] <MyDreamName> I mean presses the red X on the corner of his/her game.
#3237 [19:57] <MyDreamName> *Ahem*
#3238 [19:57] <Dazuro> weird, it keeps telling me "end of stream" when i try to log in
#3239 [19:57] <Dazuro> it worked eventually but ive never seen that error before. i get a lot, but that was new.
#3240 [19:57] <Roenie> it's b/c it's a pisstake, and the stream has ended
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#3242 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> Dazuro: you clearly need to gather more water into the reservoir. :)
#3243 [19:58] <Roenie> so notch is taking new beers in
#3244 [19:58] <MyDreamName> Someone tell Notch he needs to set the ability to turn the game to 24xAA.
#3245 [19:58] <MyDreamName> :D
#3246 [19:59] <MyDreamName> Hmm, the website is working, but I'm still having troubles getting past the auth server.
#3247 [19:59] <Roenie> for mc, how about a gfx driver option to do pixel halving instead of pixel doubling
#3248 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> Roenie: also known as shrinking the window? Just.. drag the corner.
#3249 [20:00] <MyDreamName> New idea...
#3250 [20:00] <MyDreamName> 24xAA with a 1x1 pixel window.
#3251 [20:00] <Roenie> shrinking the window doesn't come with a larger view
#3252 [20:00] <MyDreamName> It's like playing on an SNES.
#3253 [20:00] <MyDreamName> With no TV, that is.
#3254 [20:01] <Roenie> hmm neither would pixel halving would it
#3255 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> Pixel halving would be drawing every other pixel; hence 50% smaller window
#3256 [20:02] <Roenie> yea...
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#3258 [20:02] <MyDreamName> Weird, on 12xAA, I can see the invisible boxes around flowers.
#3259 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> Whereas pixel doubling would be drawing every pixel twice (well, really, four times for a window of two dimensions); for a 100% larger window.
#3260 [20:02] <Roenie> 25%
#3261 [20:03] <Roenie> no, 50%
#3262 [20:03] <Roenie> no, 75%
#3263 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> no, for 50% growth, you'd double-draw every _other_ pixel, not every single one
#3264 [20:03] <Roenie> it goes from 100% to 25%
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#3266 [20:04] <Roenie> 2x2 becomes 1x1 so thats 75% smaller
#3267 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> You're thinking area, not size.
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#3269 [20:04] <Roenie> i have to, it's 2 dimensions
#3270 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> 320x200 is generally considered "half" the resolution of 640x480, even though it makes math nerds like me wince.
#3271 [20:05] <Roenie> but my ex gf told me size doesn't matter
#3272 [20:05] <Roenie> right?
#3273 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> "Half the size, not half the number of pixels."
#3274 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> _any_who; it's 1805, and I don't have to be at work any longer, so I'm going home :)
#3275 [20:05] <Roenie> it's a quarter the size imo, plain and simple
#3276 [20:05] <Roenie> the diagonal is half the size
#3277 [20:06] <Roenie> not the "screen"
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#3279 [20:07] <Roenie> <Roenie> but my ex gf told me size doesn't matter
#3280 [20:07] <Roenie> <Roenie> right?
#3281 [20:07] <Roenie> that was a joke, mind
#3282 [20:07] <MyDreamName> Hmmm
#3283 [20:07] <MyDreamName> Weird
#3284 [20:07] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#3285 [20:07] <Roenie> no problems here in that regard ok
#3286 [20:07] <Roenie> just so you know
#3287 [20:07] <MyDreamName> Anisotropic filtering causes "pinking" of water in far rendering distances.
#3288 [20:08] <Roenie> like theres a mesh on top?
#3289 [20:08] <MyDreamName> Yeah, that too.
#3290 [20:08] <Roenie> so now i know what that is
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#3292 [20:08] <Roenie> i always enforce 8x
#3293 [20:08] <MyDreamName> Yeah, and AA runs smoothly but causes stutters.
#3294 [20:09] <Roenie> that'll depend on the card i bet
#3295 [20:09] <MyDreamName> So far 0 people have registered and 0 people bought the game.
#3296 [20:09] <MyDreamName> My card is fine; it's the CPU usage.
#3297 [20:09] <MyDreamName> Minecraft is singlethreaded.
#3298 [20:09] <Roenie> fsaa causes more cpu usage?
#3299 [20:10] <MyDreamName> Yeah, quite a bit unless optimized.
#3300 [20:10] <Roenie> define optimized?
#3301 [20:10] <MyDreamName> Because the game is basically fetching the image in 8x the resolution for 8xAA and smoothing your game using that resolution.
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#3304 [20:12] <Roenie> if fsaa often caused cpu usage increase, benchmarks wouldnt all be upping the fsaa to stress video specifically instead of cpu
#3305 [20:12] <Roenie> or are you trying to say most those games are optimized for fsaa and mc is not
#3306 [20:12] <MyDreamName> I don't know exactly how that works.
#3307 [20:12] <MyDreamName> Actually, I'm probably wrong.
#3308 [20:12] <MyDreamName> Since AA is probably a burden on the GPU
#3309 [20:13] <Roenie> thats always been my understanding
#3310 [20:13] <MyDreamName> (Except for those console ports. Ew)
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#3313 [20:14] <Roenie> so then we are back to: <MyDreamName> My card is fine; it's the CPU usage.
#3314 [20:14] <i81u812> does adding tnt additionally increase the blast exponentially?
#3315 [20:14] <bacon> Minecraft isn't optimised for anything
#3316 [20:15] <i81u812> ?
#3317 [20:15] <Roenie> for login failures, bacon
#3318 [20:15] <MyDreamName> Well, I figured. When my AA is set higher, my CPU usage jumps to 25 percent.
#3319 [20:15] <MyDreamName> (I have a quad core)
#3320 [20:15] <Roenie> that shouldn't happen
#3321 [20:16] <Roenie> smells like coincidence tbh
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#3325 [20:24] <ElectroPulsar> Does anybody know of a particularly non-resource intensive Linux version that can successfully run Minecraft, as well as the Minecraft server?
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#3327 [20:25] <SkiingPenguins> isnt that anything that can use java?
#3328 [20:25] <ElectroPulsar> Not sure, haven't tried anything other than windows
#3329 [20:26] <SkiingPenguins> well ive used ubuntu before, and it doesnt seem particularily intensive
#3330 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Well, ElectroPulsar's looking for a streamlined, slimmed version of *nix that doesn't have a whole lot of processes that could slow down a machine
#3331 [20:26] <ElectroPulsar> That^ :)
#3332 [20:27] <SkiingPenguins> maybe try DSL?
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#3334 [20:28] <ElectroPulsar> Ok, will do. How well do they work off of an external hdd? My internal is sorta full.... if requried I can clear off some space, i suppose
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#3336 [20:34] * aetherian is away: yes, still.
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#3337 [20:35] <ElectroPulsar> Hmm.... dumb question, where's the DSL download link?
#3338 [20:36] <SkiingPenguins> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/download.html <- ?
#3339 [20:36] <SkiingPenguins> then you click one of those links
#3340 [20:36] <ElectroPulsar> I have found the download page, and it gives a ling to some mirrors
#3341 [20:36] <ElectroPulsar> Yea, I am there
#3342 [20:36] <ElectroPulsar> How do you download using those?
#3343 [20:36] <SkiingPenguins> you click a mirror then it takes you to their page
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#3346 [20:37] <ElectroPulsar> Not sure how to proceed from there
#3347 [20:37] <ElectroPulsar> Just shows a list of directories
#3348 [20:37] <SkiingPenguins> so you would click something like this http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/dsl-4.4.10.iso
#3349 [20:37] <SkiingPenguins> on the website http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/
#3350 [20:39] <ElectroPulsar> Ok, download it
#3351 [20:39] <ElectroPulsar> How'd you get the download link out of the directory, or whatever?
#3352 [20:39] <ElectroPulsar> OH!
#3353 [20:39] <ElectroPulsar> Look down through the list, duh
#3354 [20:40] <ElectroPulsar> Alright, tyvm :)
#3355 [20:41] <ElectroPulsar> Gonna go try that out, bye, and ty o/
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#3358 [20:46] <Nikola> Are VISA cards declined when buying Minecraft?
#3359 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Most visa prepaids, yes
#3360 [20:46] <SkiingPenguins> i used one
#3361 [20:46] <SkiingPenguins> but its a debit card
#3362 [20:46] <Nikola> Oh, well mine isn't a prepaid one and I keep getting "Message from server: This card is ineligible for 3-D Secure payments."
#3363 [20:48] <i81u812> why is there all kinds of fires and feathers everywhere? how does that happen?
#3364 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Nikola - Try paypal?
#3365 [20:48] <zz> i81u812: Lava, near trees... Then chickens near it
#3366 [20:48] <lemon-rev> prehaps a lava pit lol
#3367 [20:49] <Nikola> I haven't tried paypal yet, no
#3368 [20:50] <Nikola> Thanks for the help, I'll try it
#3369 [20:51] <senillis> anyone know when I'll be able to dl the linux client for Minecraft?
#3370 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> !client
#3371 [20:52] <SkiingPenguins> should be able to do it now..
#3372 [20:52] <SkiingPenguins> or not :/
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#3374 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Huh..
#3375 [20:53] <senillis> yeah, I know about all of that Grey. I clicked the link on the web page and it gave me a 404
#3376 [20:53] <SkiingPenguins> you can d/l windows but not linux? :(
#3377 [20:53] <senillis> yup, I can't get the Linux client.
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#3379 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, doesn't work for me either
#3380 [20:55] <lemon-rev> http://yfrog.com/h4d9dp < look at this chart posted by one of mc's server people on twitter lol
#3381 [20:55] <Mofatts> ok guys, im having so troubles here.
#3382 [20:55] <Mofatts> ive done everything every guide has told me to do to make a minecraft server
#3383 [20:55] <Mofatts> and people still cant join my server
#3384 [20:55] <lemon-rev> what os are you useing, and what ip are you useing for people to join you
#3385 [20:56] <Mofatts> win 7, ip is 76.252.148.239
#3386 [20:56] <lemon-rev> !check 76.252.148.239
#3387 [20:56] <lemon-rev> ok
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#3390 [20:56] <lemon-rev> have you port forwarded it ?
#3391 [20:57] <Mofatts> yeah, i made a minecraft profile on my router with 25565
#3392 [20:57] <Mofatts> ive made a server before and it worked fine, now it doesnt
#3393 [20:57] <mbentley> make sure the local ip address is still the same
#3394 [20:57] <Mofatts> its still the same
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#3396 [20:58] <Mofatts> like i can join through localhost
#3397 [20:58] <Mofatts> and i wasnt able to before
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#3401 [20:59] <lemon-rev> whats you mean by local host, which num you useing for that
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#3403 [20:59] <Mofatts> no like when i start up the game, click multiplayer and type in localhost instead of an ip
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#3405 [21:00] <lemon-rev> hm
#3406 [21:00] <lemon-rev> ok
#3407 [21:00] <Legolas75893> Ok,soo I have a question...
#3408 [21:00] <lemon-rev> so the localhost ip is the one your useing to portforward ?
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#3410 [21:01] <lemon-rev> whats it about logo ?
#3411 [21:01] <pachuco> How can I get the linux file
#3412 [21:01] <Mofatts> i think?
#3413 [21:01] <pachuco> The server is giving a 404
#3414 [21:01] <pachuco> Any idea?
#3415 [21:01] <Legolas75893> How do you port forward with a 2Wire modem?
#3416 [21:01] <Legolas75893> I tried pfing and it didn't work.
#3417 [21:01] <lemon-rev> whats exact modle of modem 2wire ?
#3418 [21:01] <Mofatts> yeah i have a 2wire as well
#3419 [21:02] <Mofatts> the 8300wz whatever
#3420 [21:02] <Legolas75893> Ummm...2700HG-B
#3421 [21:02] <Mofatts> the only one that has an 8
#3422 [21:02] <Mofatts> they should have similar menus
#3423 [21:02] <Mofatts> have you made a profile for minecraft?
#3424 [21:02] <Legolas75893> Yes
#3425 [21:02] <Mofatts> yeah, same here and it still doesnt work
#3426 [21:02] <lemon-rev> looking this crap up on google
#3427 [21:02] <Legolas75893> I portforwarded and it still says the ports closed
#3428 [21:03] <Legolas75893> I have been too for the past week
#3429 [21:03] <mbentley> windows/3rd party firewall on your 'server' machine?
#3430 [21:03] <pachuco> Anyone know why the linux download file is giving a 404?
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#3432 [21:03] <Legolas75893> MacOSX 10.5.8
#3433 [21:03] <Legolas75893> soo...
#3434 [21:03] <Legolas75893> No firewalls haha
#3435 [21:03] <schnozzle> sup guys ? any news on the Minecraft server or on the Bukkit Upgrade for 1.2?
#3436 [21:04] <Mofatts> yeah i dont have my firewall up as well
#3437 [21:04] <mbentley> pachuco: which are you going for? server or client?
#3438 [21:04] <Mofatts> my other friend got his server up in like 4 seconds. i just think this router hates minecraft
#3439 [21:04] <SkiingPenguins> what type of router
#3440 [21:05] <Mofatts> 2wire
#3441 [21:05] <pachuco> Client
#3442 [21:05] <pachuco> Then server
#3443 [21:05] <lemon-rev> http://portforward.com/english/applications/port_forwarding/Utor/Utorindex.htm <
#3444 [21:05] <pachuco> Just giving me 404's
#3445 [21:05] <Legolas75893> Server
#3446 [21:05] <Legolas75893> I have bukkit
#3447 [21:05] <Mofatts> lemon ive done that
#3448 [21:06] <lemon-rev> hm
#3449 [21:06] <mbentley> well minecraft.net doesn't seem to be responding so...
#3450 [21:06] <lemon-rev> wtf mbently
#3451 [21:06] <mbentley> ?
#3452 [21:06] <lemon-rev> you sure i just laoded it right up
#3453 [21:06] <SkiingPenguins> works for me
#3454 [21:06] <mbentley> i just tried to pull it up and got nothing
#3455 [21:07] <lemon-rev> hm
#3456 [21:07] <Legolas75893> I gotta go
#3457 [21:07] <mbentley> loaded that time
#3458 [21:07] <lemon-rev> lol
#3459 [21:07] <lemon-rev> your isp troubles :P
#3460 [21:07] <mbentley> i would have to say their clustering/load balancing has some issues
#3461 [21:07] <pachuco> Yeah
#3462 [21:07] <pachuco> So you think just wait it out?
#3463 [21:07] <mbentley> yes pachuco
#3464 [21:07] <mbentley> i am seeing the same
#3465 [21:07] <mbentley> which means the files are not on the server
#3466 [21:08] <pachuco> Okay, thanks for the help
#3467 [21:08] <mbentley> the minecraft_server.jar is there
#3468 [21:08] <mbentley> http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar
#3469 [21:08] <pachuco> Okay
#3470 [21:08] <pachuco> I don't need the client on it already to run the server correct?
#3471 [21:08] <mbentley> you can run a server but you can't play minecraft through the server
#3472 [21:09] <pachuco> Just need to get the server working, main machine has a corrupted java install that messes with trying to run the server
#3473 [21:09] <mbentley> well if you want the client file, i have it
#3474 [21:10] <mbentley> http://www.mbentley.net/temp/minecraft/Minecraft.jar
#3475 [21:11] <pachuco> Can't I just play from my other machine once the server is running?
#3476 [21:13] <schnozzle> guys
#3477 [21:13] <schnozzle> can i make a Nether gate in the 1.1 ?
#3478 [21:13] <mbentley> pachuco: sure if you have the client software
#3479 [21:14] <mbentley> in the 1.1?
#3480 [21:14] <NinjaKirby> Whaaaat! I wasn't even NEAR the Creeper, and he exploded, trashing my god damn house, they're out to... HRRRNG
#3481 [21:14] * SkiingPenguins likes playing with tnt and obsidian
#3481 [21:15] <schnozzle> yes
#3482 [21:15] <schnozzle> can i make a Nether gate in a 1.1 server?
#3483 [21:15] <mbentley> you can make a gate but they don't work in smp
#3484 [21:15] <Lorax> SkiingPenguins: do you have any good tnt based traps built?
#3485 [21:16] <SkiingPenguins> no :(
#3486 [21:16] <mbentley> ...and you shouldn't be running a client that old
#3487 [21:16] <schnozzle> mbentley: where they work ?
#3488 [21:16] <mbentley> or a server
#3489 [21:16] <mbentley> single player
#3490 [21:16] <schnozzle> ho ok
#3491 [21:16] <schnozzle> i am playing in a 1.1 server with all the mods...
#3492 [21:16] <schnozzle> vannila dont have nods yet :(
#3493 [21:16] <schnozzle> i mean
#3494 [21:16] <schnozzle> 1.2
#3495 [21:18] <Kaito> I need a server mod to come out
#3496 [21:19] <Kaito> >_>
#3497 [21:19] <Lorax> I can't seem to get a simple clock to stay running here
#3498 [21:20] <schnozzle> anyone here plays in Digiex server?
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#3500 [21:25] <schnozzle> hello?
#3501 [21:25] <schnozzle> anyone here plays in Digiex server?
#3502 [21:25] <dopeghoti> Other than yourself, you mean?
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#3504 [21:27] <NinjaKirby> Forever alone. On my server.
#3505 [21:28] <mbentley> the silence would mean no
#3506 [21:28] <lemon-rev> ninjakirby maybe if you got some friends together and gave them your ip then they wuold join lol
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#3508 [21:30] <NinjaKirby> lol, it's an intentional circumstance anyway. I only have one friend who plays Minecraft, and his epic new laptop can't play MC, for some reason
#3509 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Too epic.
#3510 [21:30] * GreyVulpine nods sagely
#3510 [21:31] <Kealper> lol
#3511 [21:31] <SkiingPenguins> haha you can kill a portal with tnt
#3512 [21:31] <NinjaKirby> Blow up the Purple bit? ^^;;
#3513 [21:31] <mbentley> you can have the best machine but if you don't know how to use it properly...
#3514 [21:31] <NinjaKirby> lol mbentley, he's fairly savvy with PC's and stuff, just loves other things more to not care about fixing it
#3515 [21:32] <Diablothein> I wonder... is it possible to send water to the Nether if it flows into the portal?
#3516 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3517 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> water that does exist in the nether, evaporates (water in bucket)
#3518 [21:32] <Kealper> water will just boil away in the nether anyways
#3519 [21:32] <Kealper> ninja'd :/
#3520 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Only way to have water in the nether is to spawn a water source block
#3521 [21:33] <NinjaKirby> I haven't hit it yet, but is there Adminium stuff top and bottom?
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#3523 [21:34] <Kealper> yes
#3524 [21:34] <NinjaKirby> I am dissapoint
#3525 [21:34] <Kealper> lol
#3526 [21:35] <NinjaKirby> That's one thing I hate about open ended games, Invisible Walls and things.
#3527 [21:35] <NinjaKirby> In this case, floors and cielings
#3528 [21:36] <NinjaKirby> I'd rather if I dug too deep, a Balrok would emerge and trash the crap outta me, whilst being so large it destroys 20 chunks in the process.
#3529 [21:37] <NinjaKirby> Cliffracers would appear when you ascend too high...
#3530 [21:38] <Kealper> and grues when it's too dark? lol
#3531 [21:39] <NinjaKirby> I had to google that one, associated with a game titled Zork?
#3532 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3533 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> !wiki gru
#3534 [21:39] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRU
#3535 [21:39] <GreyBot> GRU or Glavnoye Razvedyvatel'noye Upravleniye is the foreign military intelligence directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (formerly the Soviet Army General Staff of the Soviet Union). GRU is the English transliteration of the Russian acronym ГРУ, which stands for "Главное Разведывательное Управление", meaning Main
#3536 [21:39] <GreyBot> Intelligence Directorate. The official full name translation is II Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Other name, GRU GSh (GRU Generalnovo Shtaba, i.e. "GRU of the General Staff").
#3537 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> er
#3538 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> !wiki grue
#3539 [21:39] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_%28monster%29
#3540 [21:39] <GreyBot> A grue is a fictional predator that dwells in the dark. The word was first used in modern times as a fictional predator from Jack Vance's Dying Earth universe (described as being part "ocular bat", part "unusual hoon" and part man). Vance probably took the name from an archaic/dialectal English verb derived from a Scandinavian word meaning to feel horror, shudder (OED), now most commonly
#3541 [21:39] <GreyBot> encountered in the word "gruesome" (Danish: "grufuld", Swedish: "gruvlig", Norwegian: "grusom", German: "gruselig, gruseln", Dutch: "gruwel, gruwelen, gruwelijk").
#3542 [21:39] <NinjaKirby> Whoa!
#3543 [21:40] <SkiingPenguins> o.o
#3544 [21:40] * mbentley kicks GreyBot in his stupid bot face
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#3545 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> !slap mbentley
#3546 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> oh right, I turned that off
#3547 [21:40] <mbentley> :D
#3548 [21:40] <NinjaKirby> I'm tempted to... wiki something, I should get it in quickly!
#3549 [21:40] * NinjaKirby refrains
#3549 [21:40] <lemon-rev> wtf spiders can climb walls now ?
#3550 [21:40] <gameaware> yep
#3551 [21:40] <lemon-rev> crap
#3552 [21:40] <gameaware> progress
#3553 [21:40] <NinjaKirby> lol, like me, you'll start installing glass roofing everywhere
#3554 [21:41] <gameaware> soon they will catch you with their webs!
#3555 [21:41] <lemon-rev> eewww
#3556 [21:41] <mbentley> i have a spider that hangs outside my window... lol
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#3558 [21:41] <lemon-rev> lol that could be ugly lol
#3559 [21:41] <mbentley> on the 2nd floor
#3560 [21:41] <SkiingPenguins> atleast he doesnt explode
#3561 [21:41] <mbentley> he is like my pet spider
#3562 [21:41] <gameaware> lol
#3563 [21:41] <PAUNCH> Hi
#3564 [21:41] <mbentley> except he tries to eat me at night
#3565 [21:41] <mbentley> :(
#3566 [21:42] <gameaware> i have a support question
#3567 [21:42] <PAUNCH> I have a problem I think some of you might be able to help me with, if you are willing of course.
#3568 [21:42] <NinjaKirby> Present thy Challenge
#3569 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Just tell us your problem
#3570 [21:43] <mbentley> in for the challenge
#3571 [21:43] <PAUNCH> Okay
#3572 [21:43] <gameaware> since the migration, i get 'failed to login : bad login' - any way to resolve?
#3573 [21:43] <NinjaKirby> The council herein, shall decide to aid uponst the release of one's Cryptic Tale
#3574 [21:43] <PAUNCH> well me and my friend are trying to setup a server
#3575 [21:43] <PAUNCH> and for some reason , it wont work
#3576 [21:43] <gameaware> my second account works fine
#3577 [21:44] <PAUNCH> he can sign in just fine
#3578 [21:44] <mbentley> gameaware: can you login to minecraft.net with that account?
#3579 [21:44] <gameaware> yes
#3580 [21:44] <PAUNCH> but i cant
#3581 [21:44] <OODavo> PAUNCH: You probably don't have port forwarding up.
#3582 [21:44] <PAUNCH> he just did it
#3583 [21:44] <OODavo> What's the IP address you're using?
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#3585 [21:44] <PAUNCH> 24.201.37.171:4444
#3586 [21:44] <OODavo> !check 24.201.37.171:4444
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#3588 [21:45] <OODavo> See, AuBot can't get to it.
#3589 [21:45] <OODavo> Either a port forwarding issue or firewall.
#3590 [21:45] <gameaware> mbentley: i even tried changing my password to get it to propagate. guessing i am not on the new host
#3591 [21:45] <PAUNCH> mmm
#3592 [21:45] <PAUNCH> i see
#3593 [21:45] <PAUNCH> hold on i'll try to see with my friend
#3594 [21:45] <OODavo> Make sure your friend's forwarding the correct port (4444).
#3595 [21:46] <mbentley> gameaware: what is your minecraft username?
#3596 [21:46] <PAUNCH> we'll try puting his router into DMZ
#3597 [21:47] <mbentley> i'm assuming it is just gameaware
#3598 [21:47] <OODavo> PAUNCH: If that works, it's a port forwarding issue.
#3599 [21:48] <PAUNCH> Yes
#3600 [21:48] <OODavo> But DMZ can be a security risk, so I'd recommend setting up real port forwarding if that turns out to be the issue.
#3601 [21:48] <PAUNCH> thanks in advance for helping
#3602 [21:48] <gameaware> mbentley: yes, gameaware
#3603 [21:48] <mbentley> and is that when you first launch the client and try to login? or when you connect to a server?
#3604 [21:49] <gameaware> when i try to connect to my friends server thru the multiplayer button
#3605 [21:49] <PAUNCH> His router is in DMZ but I still cant connect to the server
#3606 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> make sure his router's public ip matches up with whatismyip.com
#3607 [21:49] <mbentley> hmm... gameaware, try my test server @ home.mbentley.net:12345
#3608 [21:49] <gameaware> k
#3609 [21:49] <gameaware> tnx
#3610 [21:49] <mbentley> actually, one sec
#3611 [21:50] <mbentley> ok, now try. sorry
#3612 [21:50] <gameaware> np
#3613 [21:50] <gameaware> same - failed to login: bad login
#3614 [21:51] <mbentley> all i am seeing is '2011-01-20 21:50:26 [INFO] /71.224.34.108:2816 lost connection
#3615 [21:51] <OODavo> !check 24.201.37.171:4444
#3616 [21:52] <mbentley> very strange. not running any mods?
#3617 [21:52] <OODavo> The server actually is running on port 4444, right?
#3618 [21:52] <gameaware> no. is there any caching in the login
#3619 [21:52] <gameaware> ?
#3620 [21:52] <mbentley> shouldn't be
#3621 [21:53] <gameaware> i just exited and got back in and am now stuck with the 'can't connect to minecraft.net'
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#3623 [21:53] <gameaware> lots of updates this time
#3624 [21:53] <gameaware> but in
#3625 [21:53] <Bhro> How do I use Zombes fly mod (which requires the k .class) with CVPSs Better Teleport mod (which also requires the k .class)? Is there an alternative fly mod that I could use?
#3626 [21:53] <OODavo> Bhro: No mod support here, sorry.
#3627 [21:54] <gameaware> and good now. wow. sry to waste your time. i jumped out a bunch of times. tnx 4 the help
#3628 [21:54] <Bhro> Would you happen to know where I could for for help then?
#3629 [21:54] <mbentley> ah, they must have released some update for the client to authenticate to a separate server
#3630 [21:54] <mbentley> contact the people who made the mod?
#3631 [21:54] <gameaware> u guys rock
#3632 [21:55] <gameaware> mbentley: remember to punch me out of your server
#3633 [21:55] <mbentley> heh you figured it out :D
#3634 [21:55] <Ganteka> Is it fine to just butt in with a question if I have one? (other than this question I mean)
#3635 [21:55] <mbentley> sure
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#3637 [21:56] <Ganteka> Ah, well then, this should be entertaining for everyone
#3638 [21:56] <Kealper> you know you use the internet a LOT when you go to clear your browser's cookies/cache and it actually locks up for like 10 sec trying to clear it all
#3639 [21:57] <Ganteka> So, like, a month ago now, I tried to buy me some minecraft, due to some page errors, such actual payment failed without my knowledge. I had emailed payment but never heard back. Do they just not respond to emails on occasion?
#3640 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Ganteka - Send an email to daniel@mojang.com
#3641 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Other addresses might just be backlogged to all hell
#3642 [21:57] <Ganteka> At your request last time I was in a few weeks ago, I did
#3643 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> But Daniel personally responds to his
#3644 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#3645 [21:57] <Ganteka> well, it was a CC
#3646 [21:58] <Ganteka> So, I sent two emails and never head back
#3647 [21:59] <Ganteka> Should I give up or send another email?
#3648 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Try sending another email, to just him
#3649 [21:59] <Ganteka> Alright, will do. Thanks man
#3650 [22:00] <Ganteka> Also, out of weird curiosity, how entertaining is it to be here all the time? Do people just come in and ask crazy stuff all day?
#3651 [22:01] <OODavo> Ganteka: We get a lot of people asking for help with pirated versions of MC.
#3652 [22:01] <OODavo> :|
#3653 [22:01] <Ganteka> oh, dickery to them
#3654 [22:02] <zampa> Sadly that is the case.
#3655 [22:02] <Kealper> !paid minecraft is fast again
#3656 [22:03] <Ganteka> Feels like you guys deserve cookies or something for putting up with all this stress
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#3658 [22:03] <Kealper> best solution is to just pretend like we're all afk :P
#3659 [22:03] <Ganteka> haha
#3660 [22:04] <Ganteka> Oh man, be glad I'm not reading the jokes off this laffy taffy wrapper
#3661 [22:04] <dopeghoti> !paid Chuck Norris
#3662 [22:06] <Ganteka> ah, good stuff (not this laffy taffy though)
#3663 [22:06] <Ganteka> Anyways, later folks. Time to be nerdy elsewhere
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#3666 [22:07] <dopeghoti> Hah. Minecraft client splash screen message: "90% bug free!"
#3667 [22:07] <dopeghoti> Yeah, right
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#3670 [22:08] <zampa> Something I always wondered...when digging at the very bttom dont I risk running into a lava lake somewhere and getting killed? :>
#3671 [22:09] * aetherian is away: /away /away
#3671 [22:10] <Kyle> I have a server problem currently, wondering if someone can help. I have a private server set up on a home network that myself and my roommates use. I have another friend who lives a few hours away that wants to play with us. However, the IP I give him doesn't seem to work. I have the 168.192.x.x IP used for myself and my roommates
#3672 [22:10] <Kyle> However, that one and my actual IP address given from whatsmyip.com doesn't seem to work for him.
#3673 [22:10] <zampa> Kyle: 192.168 i tke it you mean.
#3674 [22:10] <Kyle> Yeah, sorry
#3675 [22:10] <Ethteck> have you port forwarded your router?
#3676 [22:10] <zampa> Kyle: Are you sitting behind a router?
#3677 [22:10] <Kyle> Yeah, I am
#3678 [22:10] <zampa> What Ethteck said.
#3679 [22:11] <Kyle> I haven't port forwarded it, it seemed like a hassle and the game seemed to work for us without that
#3680 [22:11] <Kyle> I guess that's my fix?
#3681 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3682 [22:11] <Ethteck> For an external IP to connect, you need to do that.
#3683 [22:11] <zampa> Yep.
#3684 [22:11] <Ethteck> I have a question along the same lines that's a bit weirder
#3685 [22:11] <Ethteck> Having someone besides this computer connect to my server causes the server's internet to die entirely.
#3686 [22:11] <Kyle> Can someone walk me through it or are the instructions a bit simpler?
#3687 [22:11] <zampa> Kyle: Log onto your routher.
#3688 [22:12] <zampa> 192.168.x.1 most likely
#3689 [22:12] <Ethteck> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=836&p=5841#p5841 that explains it
#3690 [22:12] <zampa> log it, hit port forwarding, port forward the port is uses :>
#3691 [22:13] <zampa> Yikes so many spelling errors.
#3692 [22:14] <Ethteck> I have port forwarded correctly (I know this because I set it up on a different computer on my home network at one point and it worked with people on different networks)
#3693 [22:14] <Ethteck> but now, trying on my new computer with win 7 professional 64 bit, any outside connection kills the computer's internet
#3694 [22:15] <Ethteck> even another computer on the network. The server log shows that they logged in, but right after that my computer loses internet and the other user disconnects.. any idea what this is?
#3695 [22:17] <zampa> Hmm, never heard about that before. :S
#3696 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Ethteck - I've heard of that happening before, can't recall where
#3697 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> check the bug tracker at getsatisfaction
#3698 [22:17] <Ethteck> okay
#3699 [22:18] <Ethteck> this reallly sucks..I mean it's a completely new computer. I really hope to fix it. I'm willing to do anything to isolate the issue if someone knows enough to do that..but first I'll check getsatisfaction
#3700 [22:18] <zampa> Is it reccomended to dig at the very botton before bedrock appears, or sohuld i start digger a few tiles up? I mean to run the least risk of having a lava flood my tunnel
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#3704 [22:19] <xolotl> zampa: You'll want to dig a few tiles up
#3705 [22:20] <zampa> Ok, I'll start doing that
#3706 [22:20] <lemon-rev> ethteck
#3707 [22:21] <lemon-rev> did you use the minecraft server from fourms or from minecraft.net
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#3710 [22:21] <Ethteck> minecraft.net
#3711 [22:21] <Ethteck> and the windows one
#3712 [22:21] <randomuser> crap internet...
#3713 [22:21] <Ethteck> is there a different one I should/can try?
#3714 [22:21] <lemon-rev> hm,
#3715 [22:21] <lemon-rev> can the game run ok if playing single player ?
#3716 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Ethteck - Type/brand of NIC?
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#3718 [22:23] <Ethteck> yeah, the game itself runs fine. I can connect to myself on that server
#3719 [22:23] <Ethteck> sorry, NIC?
#3720 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> network card
#3721 [22:23] <Lugnut> Hello everyone.
#3722 [22:23] <Lugnut> I'm having issues with the exe now.
#3723 [22:23] <Ethteck> oh..yeah. Netgear WN121T (wireless usb adapter)
#3724 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3725 [22:23] <Lugnut> Open GL is fine.
#3726 [22:23] <Lugnut> I can run minecraft in browser easily
#3727 [22:23] <Lugnut> But
#3728 [22:23] <Lugnut> i'm having the problem thats here http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=148387
#3729 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Lugnut - How much ram do you have on the computer
#3730 [22:25] <Lugnut> 1 GB
#3731 [22:25] <Lugnut> but it ran fine two days ago.
#3732 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#3733 [22:25] <Lugnut> Yesterday, it was the open GL problem
#3734 [22:25] <Lugnut> (I'm lugnut1206)
#3735 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> What other applications do you have running
#3736 [22:25] <Lugnut> but now its this
#3737 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> if you don't have enough RAM free, minecraft won't start
#3738 [22:26] <Lugnut> Google chrome, which is what minecraft is running in now, and two other semi important tabs.
#3739 [22:26] <Lugnut> I've run minecraft with that exe with two chrome windows, about five tabs.
#3740 [22:26] <Lugnut> Successfully,
#3741 [22:26] <Lugnut> without lag.
#3742 [22:27] <Lugnut> east..
#3743 [22:27] <Lugnut> At least
#3744 [22:27] <Lugnut> thats whats active
#3745 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> close down some programs, see if you can't get minecraft to launch
#3746 [22:27] <Lugnut> maybe I have something buried somewhere I don't know.
#3747 [22:27] <Lugnut> Thats the thing
#3748 [22:27] <Lugnut> I have one open.
#3749 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Try a reboot?
#3750 [22:27] <Lugnut> The one
#3751 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Or check your task manager
#3752 [22:27] <Lugnut> Uhmm
#3753 [22:27] <Lugnut> Pretty sure I just did one
#3754 [22:27] <Lugnut> Task manager
#3755 [22:28] <Lugnut> Theresa good idea
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#3757 [22:28] <ToxicFrog> Anyone know what the usual turnaround time for minecraft support is, in particular WRT password recovery and the like?
#3758 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Have no idea
#3759 [22:29] <Lugnut> Alright
#3760 [22:29] <Lugnut> apparently there are five chrome processes running
#3761 [22:29] <Lugnut> I'll go restart chrome
#3762 [22:29] <Lugnut> Be right back.
#3763 [22:30] <ToxicFrog> Blargh.
#3764 [22:30] <ToxicFrog> I can't log in and password recovery has thus far failed to send me any email.
#3765 [22:30] <Ethteck> Netgear WN121T (wireless usb adapter) ( what I said before just incase you forgot :P)
#3766 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Oh, sorry, hmm
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#3768 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, haven't heard of any problems with that network adapter first hand
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#3770 [22:33] <Ethteck> any insight, lemon-rev?
#3771 [22:33] <Ethteck> and thanks for the effort, GreyVulpine :)
#3772 [22:34] <Ethteck> is there a different server version I should try...or should I try running the jar version? I'll pretty much do anything to diagnose this.
#3773 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Don't think so
#3774 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Ethteck - I guess, first thing, update NIC drivers?
#3775 [22:41] <Ethteck> They're updated
#3776 [22:41] <Ethteck> what I CAN do is try a different NIC
#3777 [22:41] <Ethteck> and that I will.
#3778 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> As long as it isn't an atheros nic..
#3779 [22:41] <Ethteck> nope
#3780 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Good.
#3781 [22:41] <Ethteck> another netgear, entirely different model
#3782 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Wow, seems a lot more people have this problem than I thought.
#3783 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internet_crashes_after_about_5_minutes_connected_to_a_smp_server
#3784 [22:42] * Kealper knows what causes it a lot of the time
#3784 [22:43] <Kealper> buffer overflow on the NIC, which can sometimes be fixed with NICs that allow their buffers to be adjusted
#3785 [22:43] <Ethteck> For me, though, it's the host that's dying..and it's INSTANTLY when an outside computer connects
#3786 [22:43] <Ethteck> like...the moment the server log writes "xxx has logged in"
#3787 [22:43] <Ethteck> they don't even get to the game screen before it says they have timed out
#3788 [22:44] <Ethteck> but I'll see if the wn121t's buffer can be adjusted
#3789 [22:44] <Kealper> Ethteck: want to give my fix a try? it might allow you to change the buffer sizes on the one you have
#3790 [22:44] <Ethteck> sure thing!
#3791 [22:44] <Kealper> ok, first off, what os?
#3792 [22:44] <Ethteck> windows 7 professional 64 bit
#3793 [22:44] <Kealper> ok
#3794 [22:45] <Kealper> lemme check something first
#3795 [22:45] <Kealper> ok
#3796 [22:45] <Kealper> press the windows key, and type Device Manager into the start menu search
#3797 [22:45] <Kealper> press enter, and that should open the device manager
#3798 [22:46] <Kealper> look in the list for the Network adapters dropdown menu
#3799 [22:46] <Kealper> drop that down, and then tell me if you recognise your NIC in there
#3800 [22:47] <Ethteck> yeah, it's there
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#3802 [22:47] <Kealper> ok, double click it in that list
#3803 [22:47] <Kealper> it should have opened a properties window
#3804 [22:47] <Ethteck> yes
#3805 [22:47] <Kealper> go to the Advanced tab
#3806 [22:48] <Ethteck> there's no buffer-related settings in there - I've looked already. :/
#3807 [22:48] <Kealper> where it says Property: on the left side of that pane, is there things for Recieve Buffers and Transmit Buffers?
#3808 [22:48] <Kealper> crap
#3809 [22:48] <Kealper> well, shot that idea in the butt
#3810 [22:48] <Ethteck> :P
#3811 [22:48] <Ethteck> Maybe the software of the network adapter, itself
#3812 [22:49] <Kealper> well....was that one you clicked on the only NIC listed in the network adapters dropdown?
#3813 [22:49] <Ethteck> well first I'll try the other network adapter
#3814 [22:49] <Kealper> ok then lol
#3815 [22:49] <Ethteck> there's also my ethernet port listed there
#3816 [22:49] <Kealper> oh, probably not that then lol
#3817 [22:49] <Ethteck> and a gbridge vpn (added today, problem was happening before then)
#3818 [22:49] <Ethteck> :P thanks though. I'll let you know how it goes with this other network adapter
#3819 [22:50] <Kealper> hmmm...guess that adapter just sucks for configurability :/
#3820 [22:51] <Ethteck> yeah..I really need a new one. Do you recommend one?
#3821 [22:51] <Kealper> can't say i do, i try to stay away from wireless :/
#3822 [22:52] * GreyVulpine wouldn't recommend anything wireless and USB.
#3822 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Have always had a bad rep in my book
#3823 [22:53] <Ethteck> unfortunately I'll only be living at home for 8 more months or so
#3824 [22:53] <Ethteck> and then it's college, so drilling holes in the walls to get an ethernet connection to the router wouldn't make sense.
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#3826 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Just those wireless USB dongles have always been a pain
#3827 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> (to troubleshoot)
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#3831 [23:03] <Kyle> I was on here a minute ago, I was having the router issue. Well, I had to reset my router to get my router info, since my roommate is an idiot, but now I'm having problems forwarding the port. I do exactly as portforward.com says to, but it doesn't seem to work
#3832 [23:03] * lemon-rev thinks sheep should beable to go cross eyed to look extra funny
#3832 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Kyle, can you go to your router's status page
#3833 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> make sure the public/internet/wan ip address listed there
#3834 [23:04] <Kyle> Yeah, i'm there
#3835 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> is the same as whatismyip.com
#3836 [23:04] <bacon> lemon-rev: Don't they already?
#3837 [23:05] <Kyle> Okay, he's using the public IP there
#3838 [23:05] <lemon-rev> nope
#3839 [23:05] <Kyle> Is it a 192.168.x.x number he should use or something different?
#3840 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Kyle - No
#3841 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.x.y is an internal NAT ip address
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#3843 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Does the public ip listed at whatismyip.com match up with the one on the router's status page?
#3844 [23:06] <lemon-rev> hm,
#3845 [23:07] <lemon-rev> whats my ip is the ip from your isp, the ip in your router should be internal ip from ipconfig
#3846 [23:07] <Kyle> I only see a single IP address on the status page and the other site, and they do match
#3847 [23:08] <Kyle> Though I don't see the word 'public'
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#3849 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> Some routers list it differently
#3850 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> I'm just trying to get all the combinations
#3851 [23:08] <Kyle> Ah, gotcha
#3852 [23:08] <Kyle> When I try to save the port forwarding, it doesn't seem to stay on the page after I click Save Settings
#3853 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> Then can you take a screenshot of the router's port forward page
#3854 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> upload it at imgur.com
#3855 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Let us have a look?
#3856 [23:10] <Kyle> I can do that, but first can someone link that forum post explaining how to do it again?
#3857 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3858 [23:11] <Kyle> Before I left a minute ago, someone linked a forum post explaining it
#3859 [23:11] <Kyle> I want to go over this once again before I waste any more time on this whole thing
#3860 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> Uh...
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#3863 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> Oh, ew
#3864 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=836&p=5841#p5841
#3865 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> That one?
#3866 [23:13] <Kyle> Yeah
#3867 [23:13] <Kyle> I don't like it
#3868 [23:14] <Kyle> Too many third party programs involved
#3869 [23:14] * GreyVulpine nods
#3869 [23:14] <Kyle> k
#3870 [23:14] <Kyle> I'll upload a screenie real quick
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#3873 [23:18] <Kyle> http://i.imgur.com/8YL3T.png
#3874 [23:18] <Kyle> Hmm
#3875 [23:18] <Kyle> Not near as big as it should be
#3876 [23:19] <Kyle> Now
#3877 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> Oh, linksys router
#3878 [23:19] <Kyle> I type in the info as I should according to http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Linksys/WRT54GS/Minecraft_Server.htm
#3879 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> HOld on
#3880 [23:19] <Kyle> And then I click Save Settings
#3881 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> I'll walk you through it
#3882 [23:19] <Kyle> Alright
#3883 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> os?
#3884 [23:19] <Kyle> 7
#3885 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> start -> cmd in search bar
#3886 [23:21] <Kyle> Gotcha
#3887 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> ipconfig
#3888 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> what is your ipv4 address
#3889 [23:21] <Kyle> 192.168.1.103
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#3891 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Okay.
#3892 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> In your linksys router's port forwarding page.
#3893 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> Application: MC server (or whatever you want to put in there)
#3894 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> Port start: 25565
#3895 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> End: 25565
#3896 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> Protocol: TCP
#3897 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> ip address 192.168.1.103
#3898 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> Click enable, then save
#3899 [23:22] <Kyle> Alright, trying now
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#3901 [23:23] <Kyle> The only difference that I can tell is that I left Protocol as Both
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#3903 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't make a difference
#3904 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> MC server, right now, uses only TCP
#3905 [23:23] <Kyle> So what should my friend type in his Multiplayer IP?
#3906 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Whatever is listed in your router's status page as the internet IP
#3907 [23:25] <Kyle> wow
#3908 [23:25] <Kyle> Finally
#3909 [23:25] <Kyle> That was a hassle
#3910 [23:25] <Kyle> Thanks so much Grey
#3911 [23:25] * GreyVulpine nods
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#3916 [23:36] <Domminick> anyone ever run into an issue with chunks reverting to a previous state?
#3917 [23:36] <xolotl> Domminick: Typically that's because it's the spawn chunkn
#3918 [23:36] <xolotl> er, chunk
#3919 [23:37] <DrunkenLizard> had it happen on my server a few weeks back and haven't done anything with it since
#3920 [23:37] <DrunkenLizard> actually it happened to the whole world
#3921 [23:38] <DrunkenLizard> spawn chunk was one of the last to revert
#3922 [23:39] <xolotl> Dunno; any mods in play?
#3923 [23:39] <DrunkenLizard> nope vanilla smp
#3924 [23:39] <xolotl> kk
#3925 [23:39] <xolotl> Dunno, could be some massive lag or something like that, I suppose. Perhaps someone else'd know more
#3926 [23:40] <DrunkenLizard> wonder if force saving would help avoid the issue
#3927 [23:40] <DrunkenLizard> thanks though
#3928 [23:40] <DrunkenLizard> at least now I'm making backups every couple of days
#3929 [23:41] <DrunkenLizard> just get a lot of annoyed people when I take it off line to backup, probably time to switch hosts
#3930 [23:41] <DrunkenLizard> can't say I'm loving aowc
#3931 [23:41] <xolotl> DrunkenLizard: Hm, could be. The server's supposed to save on a egular basis
#3932 [23:41] <xolotl> also on a regular basis.
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#3935 [23:42] <xolotl> re: backups, it's probably best to script something to just do a save-off, do the backups, and then a save-on
#3936 [23:42] <xolotl> Theoretically no need to bring the server down
#3937 [23:42] <DrunkenLizard> yeah it was fine for the first couple of weeks, had a lot built up then chunk by chunk it all was undone. def odd
#3938 [23:43] <xolotl> Though I don't know how the server gets if it doesn't save for awhile
#3939 [23:43] <xolotl> That does kind of sound like maybe it was in memory but then reverted to disk or something
#3940 [23:43] <xolotl> Anyway, good luck. :/
#3941 [23:43] <DrunkenLizard> thanks for your time
#3942 [23:43] <xolotl> np
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