#1 [00:01] <Sigma> anyone know the name of the texture pack thats similar to the tron one?
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#3 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> ?
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#12 [00:39] <snb500> hi
#13 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#15 [00:40] <Diablothein> Laugh at this: http://blog.games.yahoo.com/blog/331-what-you-might-not-know-about-tic-tac-toe
#16 [00:40] <Diablothein> PETA rages at Tic-Tac-Toe.
#17 [00:42] <bacon> That game is winnable
#18 [00:42] <bacon> however it's unlikely to be won if the middle space is taken within the first three moves
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#21 [00:47] <annath> so hey, I bought a gift code for a buddy, and while my online banking sees the transaction, I have not gotten any confirmation emails
#22 [00:47] <annath> wat do?
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#25 [00:50] <mib_qliq92> My acount won't let me log in OR change my password!!!!!
#26 [00:50] <KART35|iPod> well
#27 [00:51] <KART35|iPod> guess what
#28 [00:51] <KART35|iPod> to both of you
#29 [00:51] <KART35|iPod> minecraft is moving servers atm
#30 [00:51] <KART35|iPod> so you will need to wait
#31 [00:51] <mib_qliq92> it's been like this for 3 days
#32 [00:51] <KART35|iPod> yeah
#33 [00:51] <annath> so the servers are too loaded to give me a code, but then why did my card get charged?
#34 [00:51] <KART35|iPod> well
#35 [00:52] <KART35|iPod> paypall isn on the minecraft servers
#36 [00:52] <KART35|iPod> you can tweet notch about it
#37 [00:52] <mib_qliq92> So my account isn't screwed up?
#38 [00:52] <KART35|iPod> nah
#39 [00:52] <annath> hmm...I thought I picked the "not paypal" option, oh well... thanks for the help
#40 [00:52] <mib_qliq92> WEEW!
#41 [00:52] <mib_qliq92> Thnx XD
#42 [00:53] <KART35|iPod> annath: either way
#43 [00:53] <KART35|iPod> transactions dont occur on the account server
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#48 [01:17] <snb500> lololololol
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#58 [01:42] <bronson2011> hello?
#59 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#60 [01:43] <bronson2011> Finally, I'm heard :D
#61 [01:43] <bronson2011> I have a quick question, has the smp server lag due to mobs been fixed? I just got an update for my client but it didn't change the version number.
#62 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> I'm not sure, the mob spawn/lag doesn't affect everybody. The update today was just to point the client to new servers
#63 [01:45] <bronson2011> oh, ok.
#64 [01:46] <bronson2011> I've just noticed that ever since 1.2 was released, my server gets terrible lag (when not connected to from the same network) when mobs are on. Could it be my server PC being crappy?
#65 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is constantly updated, code gets added, shuffled around, features added and removed. It hasn't entered an optimization phase at all, so if your computer is on the line between running well, and running poorly, updates might push it over the cusp
#66 [01:48] <bronson2011> Alright, thanks. I'll try to test the server on a better PC, and see if I just need better CPU/RAM speeds.
#67 [01:49] <bronson2011> Once again, thanks for your help. Tried asking on another channel for like 30 minutes while they all just ingored me.
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#70 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Bah, been playing an FPS game for the past hour, noticed a bunch of lag. Wasn't until I just closed it that I figure out why, minecraft's been running in the background all this time.
#71 [01:54] <fogWork> har har ;P
#72 [01:54] * GreyVulpine bwahs
#72 [01:55] <fogWork> Mornin' Grey ;)
#73 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> G'mornin
#74 [01:55] <fogWork> Finally, Friday
#75 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#76 [01:56] <fogWork> And still plenty of work to do -_-
#77 [02:01] <fogWork> What in... bah, teamviewer is acting like a piece of poop on my machine at home, set password but says it's wrong, and I know it's right >_>
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#82 [02:10] <fogWork> Meh, receive mail about a user signing up for a site, but not which one... and why are they mailing my private one and not using the support utilities so that they're forwarded to the right inbox >_>
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#84 [02:10] <fogWork> I blame this on you, aetherian
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#87 [02:33] <INTROSP3CTIVE> so i have come to raise an age old question
#88 [02:34] <INTROSP3CTIVE> i spent most of my afternoon today educating myself on port forwarding and router firewalls and such in order to be able to host my own server.
#89 [02:34] <INTROSP3CTIVE> but im not entirely sure if i have everything set up properly
#90 [02:34] <INTROSP3CTIVE> is there a resident expert in the house that could PM me?
#91 [02:35] <INTROSP3CTIVE> is there anyone in the house at all?
#92 [02:35] <SinZ> ..
#93 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> INTROSP3CTIVE - You there?
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#102 [02:51] <TheReddeH> omg its working again
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#104 [02:52] <Drule> hi
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#106 [02:52] <Drule> I'm running a dedicated MC server and I'm wondering if there's any way to create a whitelist in order to prevent just anyone from joining?
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#108 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> Not with the vanilla server
#109 [02:53] <TheReddeH> Drule: yes there is
#110 [02:53] <Drule> How?
#111 [02:53] <TheReddeH> dunno:>
#112 [02:53] <Drule> Hehe.
#113 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> You would need to find a server mod to do so
#114 [02:53] <TheReddeH> but there is!
#115 [02:54] <Drule> Well, I looked at a few mods, but they contained like
#116 [02:54] <Drule> 20 different features
#117 [02:54] <Drule> which seems unecessary!
#118 [02:55] <TheReddeH> disable those;p
#119 [02:55] <Drule> How does modding even work?
#120 [02:56] <TheReddeH> i think it has to do with code ;p
#121 [02:56] <Drule> What happens if I run a modded server, then all of a sudden the Minecraft client is upgraded for all my players
#122 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> Basically you run a custom server that has modified server files in it
#123 [02:56] <Drule> won't that render my server obsolete?
#124 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#125 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> Until the mod is updated for the new version
#126 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> Has been that way for hmod since it was released.
#127 [02:57] <Drule> So basically all of my players will need to run an outdated, local version of MC if they're going to play on a modded server?
#128 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> Until now, they've had no choice, the client autoupdates
#129 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> Server doesn't
#130 [02:57] <Drule> :-|
#131 [02:57] <Drule> I guess mods are out of the question then.
#132 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> They will be, down the line
#133 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> But right now, no mods are available, that are compatible with beta
#134 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> hmod is out of date, and discontinued
#135 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> All the devs that previously worked on hmod, moved onto bukkit... and bukkit is nowhere near ready for release
#136 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> You've got some die-hard admins running servers with bukkit, with barely working plugins, just so they have some additional functionality.
#137 [03:04] <BarryCarlyon> In theory it occurs to me that if you are runnign a linux box, you can configure the ip tables to drop all traffic bar some ips, which then sort of creates a white list but your users would need to be on static IPs.
#138 [03:04] <BarryCarlyon> I also have in mind something that would work like a white list but would not require any server modifications.
#139 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> Sure, a website login page as a front-end, tying into a firewall/ip tables thing on the server
#140 [03:05] <lukegb> GreyVulpine: Meaglin updated hMod, so you can have hMod with barely working plugins, or Bukkit with barely working plugins.
#141 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> lukegb - Oh?
#142 [03:05] <lukegb> GreyVulpine: there's also kMod. Which is someone's bastardised fork of hMod that was updated and works even less.
#143 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> Last I heard from bukkit's site, "UPDATE:
#144 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> We've tried fixing hMod but had little to no luck. It's way too messy to work on and too much has changed in the last few Minecraft updates.
#145 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> "
#146 [03:06] <lukegb> Yeah, but Meaglin isn't part of the Bukkit team.
#147 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> Well then, guess I'll continue waiting.
#148 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#149 [03:06] <lukegb> Just the hMod one :P
#150 [03:06] <BarryCarlyon> yay for bastardisatiion!
#151 [03:06] * GreyVulpine nods
#151 [03:08] <lukegb>
#152 [03:12] <genshou> blah, back :v
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#154 [03:13] <genshou> So I FINALLY get internet
#155 [03:13] <genshou> and I can get my MC fix again
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#157 [03:13] <genshou> ...and now it seems like my HDD is dying :<
#158 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Ruh-roh
#159 [03:13] <genshou> it's going really really REALLY slow... any good diagnostic tools for HDD that don't *just* check for bad sectors? >.>
#160 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> HDTune
#161 [03:13] <genshou> like, copying 60 MB from said HDD to same HDD took 20 minutes.
#162 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> gah
#163 [03:14] <genshou> 7200 RPM SATA 2.0 should not do that >.<
#164 [03:15] <genshou> bad week for computers in this apartment ;<
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#166 [03:17] <genshou> I think my motherboard just hates them
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#169 [03:17] <genshou> I've killed two in three years, and this one was kinda defective out of the box and now it's like a dying cow
#170 [03:19] <TheReddeH> ur mobo doesnt hate them
#171 [03:19] <TheReddeH> it hates you!
#172 [03:19] <TheReddeH> just like everyone else!
#173 [03:19] <TheReddeH> muhahaha
#174 [03:19] <TheReddeH> >=]
#175 [03:26] <genshou> It hates everyone else too?
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#177 [03:26] <genshou> What a pathetic spiteful little mobo. ;D
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#180 [03:38] <aetherian> I can barely keep my eyes open
#181 [03:38] <aetherian> night guys
#182 [03:38] * aetherian yawns
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#183 [03:39] <fogWork> Night? It's morning, bask in its glory of sunnyness!
#184 [03:40] <genshou> bah
#185 [03:40] <genshou> formatting hard drives is boring. I need a shot glass to help pass the time. brb
#186 [03:42] <genshou> so while all that's going on, when was the last update to Beta?
#187 [03:44] <fogWork> What in the well of dirt and poop... someone has been using my workstation and found that the calendar software for Mac was useless and deleted it >_O
#188 [03:44] <genshou> >_O
#189 [03:44] <genshou> Your workstation is a Mac?
#190 [03:44] <fogWork> Yes ;P
#191 [03:44] <genshou> Win... for you :P
#192 [03:45] * genshou wouldn't want that but knows Mac fans love to use their brand while working :)
#192 [03:45] <fogWork> Yer, but I still have to go on a manhunt now
#193 [03:45] <fogWork> All my meetings and planned thingies are gone
#194 [03:45] <genshou> my father hates using a PC at work
#195 [03:45] <fogWork> I can relate
#196 [03:45] <genshou> ah, rum makes everything better
#197 [03:45] <fogWork> The Windows users here are swearing a lot over things "not working"
#198 [03:46] <fogWork> ID-10-T errors most of the time
#199 [03:46] <genshou> I no longer notice that it's cold in my apartment, I'm finally relaxed after working late, and I no longer care that reformatting takes WAY TOO LONG :D
#200 [03:46] <genshou> I mostly get driver IRQ crap, but that's because I'm gaming rather than working ;D
#201 [03:46] <fogWork> :P
#202 [03:47] <fogWork> Anyhoo, manhunt time
#203 [03:47] * fogWork gears up and gets out on the floor
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#204 [03:50] <genshou> So anyway, I know the MC login is borked right now, but when was the last Beta update? I've been out of the loop for a couple weeks here :P
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#206 [03:52] <genshou> and is there any way to turn off automatic updates to MC?
#207 [03:52] <genshou> I like logging in so I can use my custom skin (though that's obviously difficult or impossible atm), but I also like Mo' Creatures and some other mods and would like to keep older versions till the mods are updated ;<
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#209 [03:53] <genshou> Also, I tend to hate forced automatic updates for anything computer-related thanks to Windows
#210 [03:53] <|_ocke> is minecraft down right now?
#211 [03:53] <|_ocke> i can't seem to download the linux jar it says it's not found
#212 [03:53] <genshou> Yyyyyyyyep.
#213 [03:53] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#214 [03:53] <|_ocke> damn
#215 [03:53] * genshou points to (notices)
#215 [03:53] <genshou> ;)
#216 [03:54] <|_ocke> i was just gonna show my buddy the game and i found i don't have it installed anywhere at the moment
#217 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> actually, try
#218 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar?v=1295600036790
#219 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> lowercase m
#220 [03:54] <genshou> Show them YouTube videos?
#221 [03:54] <genshou> or that :)
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#223 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> I think that might work
#224 [03:54] <|_ocke> that seems to work
#225 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> damn webserver and caps-sensitive names
#226 [03:54] <genshou> xD
#227 [03:55] <GreyVulpine> And genshou, there was an update just yesterday, nothing new content wise
#228 [03:55] <GreyVulpine> Just pointing to new servers is all
#229 [03:55] <|_ocke> i bought the game btw not trying to pirate :P
#230 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> We didn't accuse you of anything.
#231 [03:56] <|_ocke> i know
#232 [03:56] <|_ocke> just know what i assume about people all the time :P
#233 [03:56] <genshou> GreyVulpine, when my computer's done formatting will I be able to download it by just logging in? Or do I have to go the roundabout way like what you just linked?
#234 [03:56] <|_ocke> packages seem to be downloading fine
#235 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> As long as you have the client, it should auto-update
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#237 [03:57] <genshou> Yay! ^_^
#238 [03:57] <genshou> I can have my skin back
#239 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> Last I heard, everything got migrated alright.
#240 [03:57] <genshou> I hate "Cavebob Minepants" as I call him
#241 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> Don't know if they started on the auth/skin/website de-linking yet
#242 [03:58] <genshou> even in 1st-person I hate seeing his freaking arm in my FOV
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#245 [04:03] <at0m33> test
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#247 [04:12] <BarryCarlyon> at0m33: test recieved, awaiting instructions......
#248 [04:12] <BarryCarlyon> Beep......
#249 [04:12] <KillSpammer> FFS
#250 [04:12] <KillSpammer> Everyone steals beep off me now
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#259 [04:29] <jobotslash> However, I have a question. I'm looking for a huuugggeee picture of an in-game creeper (no creepy artist renditions) to use as a big graphic on my car. any ideas on where to find one?
#260 [04:30] <BarryCarlyon> In theory you should be able to find the skin image in the client somewhere.
#261 [04:31] <jobotslash> Not really sure I wanna goof with the client. seems kinda tightly packed
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#264 [04:32] <Merciless> hi can someone help me, i'm not sure how to set up a server I've made the map and joined it given out the ip. but people cant connect
#265 [04:32] <jobotslash> there was a guy who had a 3d render he had done of a creeper in #mc a while back, can't remember who though.
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#270 [04:37] <squirt181> hello?
#271 [04:37] <squirt181> i realy need assastince
#272 [04:38] <squirt181> hello?
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#274 [04:38] <squirt181> HELLLOOOOOO????????????????????????????????
#275 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#276 [04:39] <fogWork> ?
#277 [04:39] <squirt181> hello?
#278 [04:39] <squirt181> can some one help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
#279 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> We're here.
#280 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell us your problem?
#281 [04:39] <fogWork> Grey, just use your magic crystal ball ;P
#282 [04:40] <squirt181> im useing wom and when ever i try loging it it says cannot get server list, going single player
#283 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> We don't support third party clients
#284 [04:40] <fogWork> That and minecraft.net has been having issues
#285 [04:40] <squirt181> what do you support?
#286 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> Vanilla.
#287 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> Non modded
#288 [04:40] <SinZ> squirt, its because the minecraft.net server is dodgy atm
#289 [04:40] <fogWork> Theres an entire community over at WoM to help you with your client issues
#290 [04:41] <KillSpammar> ^
#291 [04:41] <squirt181> im on the wom chat thingy.....
#292 [04:41] <KillSpammar> Then ask there
#293 [04:41] <KillSpammar> Most of us dont use WoM
#294 [04:41] <KillSpammar> We dont know how to use it :S
#295 [04:42] <squirt181> oh ok.... thanks for the help
#296 [04:42] <Merciless> i have a problem all be it a smaller one
#297 [04:42] <SinZ> squirt181: its because the minecraft servers are unstable atm
#298 [04:42] <SinZ> and the client cant get serverlist
#299 [04:42] <Merciless> i've got my server up, port forwarded but people cant join
#300 [04:42] <SinZ> due to that instability
#301 [04:42] <fogWork> Merciless: does the server console say anything when they try to connect?
#302 [04:43] <Merciless> 115.64.20.105:25565
#303 [04:43] <Merciless> test for me
#304 [04:43] <Merciless> i'll look
#305 [04:43] <fogWork> I can't, but someone else might be able to
#306 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I'm in the middle of a game right now
#307 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> sec
#308 [04:44] * mib_3imkez [mib_3imkez@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#309 [04:44] <mib_3imkez> ¨when i trying to connect to a lan server that my friend run in the same network it says connection lost:bad login some1 knows something about fix it
#310 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_3imkez - Using wrong server software
#311 [04:44] <KillSpammar> !check 115.64.20.105:2556
#312 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> Is he launching it with start server.bat?
#313 [04:44] <mib_3imkez> yes ofc
#314 [04:45] <fogWork> !check 115.64.20.105
#315 [04:45] <KillSpammar> Merciless, your server isnt working
#316 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_3imkez - Then he's launching the classic server
#317 [04:45] <KillSpammar> Oh port is wrong
#318 [04:45] <fogWork> You made booboo on the port, KillSpammar
#319 [04:45] <KillSpammar> ./fail
#320 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> not beta/survival
#321 [04:45] <Merciless> damn it'
#322 [04:45] <Merciless> one more try
#323 [04:45] <Merciless> i re forwarded the port
#324 [04:45] <Merciless> 25565
#325 [04:45] <KillSpammar> Slap me fogWork
#326 [04:45] * SinZ slaps KillSpammar around a bit with a large frozen tuna
#326 [04:45] <fogWork> I'll do something worse
#327 [04:45] <fogWork> BEEP!
#328 [04:46] <KillSpammar> GreyVulpine, i request to kick that man for copyright
#329 [04:46] <fogWork> ;)
#330 [04:46] <mib_3imkez> both got the beta and when i start a server he can connect but when he does it i can´t
#331 [04:46] <fogWork> Whats your minecraft username, mib_3imkez ?
#332 [04:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_3imkez - You've got the wrong software if you're using start server.bat to start the server
#333 [04:46] <mib_3imkez> I*
#334 [04:47] <mib_3imkez> i got the latest from minecraft homepage
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#336 [04:47] <fogWork> And your username is?
#337 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#338 [04:48] <mib_3imkez> okey will try it
#339 [04:49] <mib_3imkez> he got the beta server software.
#340 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> By the way mib_3imkez, what's your minecraft username?
#341 [04:50] <mib_3imkez> smakably
#342 [04:50] <fogWork> !paid smakably
#343 [04:50] <fogWork> <3
#344 [04:50] <fogWork> Make sure both client and server are up to date
#345 [04:50] <mib_3imkez> okey
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#347 [04:53] <mib_3imkez> now i getting connection timed out:connect
#348 [04:55] <mib_3imkez> if he opens port 25565 do you think it works??
#349 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#350 [04:55] <fogWork> Yes
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#352 [04:57] <mib_3imkez> we´re on the same router ..
#353 [04:57] <mib_3imkez> if he´d open it shoulden do any different
#354 [04:58] <mib_3imkez> sorry for my bad english btew
#355 [04:58] <mib_3imkez> btw*
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#357 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> if you're on the same router, then you don't need to open ports on the router
#358 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> However, check his firewall/security software on his computer
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#360 [05:06] <Alythul> Hey?
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#364 [05:19] <Alythul> Hello?
#365 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#366 [05:19] * bacon bacon bacon
#366 [05:20] <Alythul> o_o uh - I've recently changed my password but the new password doesn't seem to work. I tried password recovery but it refuses to work.
#367 [05:21] <KillSpammar> Erm...
#368 [05:21] <KillSpammar> No idea
#369 [05:21] <KillSpammar> Ask in #help
#370 [05:21] <Alythul> Oh okay.. I'm new to irc, what do I type to get there?
#371 [05:22] <bacon> eh
#372 [05:22] * bacon prods KillSpammar
#372 [05:22] <KillSpammar> Ehh bacon...
#373 [05:22] <KillSpammar> So sir bacon do you have any art skills?
#374 [05:22] <KillSpammar> Music skills?
#375 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> Alythul - Send an email to daniel@mojang.com
#376 [05:22] <Alythul> Okay.
#377 [05:22] <KillSpammar> Before i eat you
#378 [05:22] <KillSpammar> Oh for minecraft :S
#379 [05:22] <Alythul> Yeah.
#380 [05:22] <KillSpammar> I keep thinking people are asking abotu irc
#381 [05:22] <KillSpammar> Been in #help to long
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#383 [05:23] <Alythul> Lol >_>;
#384 [05:23] <KillSpammar> SLAP ME!
#385 [05:23] <fogWork> BEEP
#386 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> !grey on
#387 [05:23] * bacon slaps KillSpammar with itself
#387 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> !slap KillSpammar
#388 [05:23] * GreyBot slaps KillSpammar with a pig.
#388 [05:23] <KillSpammar> Eahh...
#389 [05:23] <KillSpammar> Beeo
#390 [05:23] <KillSpammar> Beepo
#391 [05:23] <KillSpammar> Ok
#392 [05:23] <KillSpammar> Bacon
#393 [05:23] <KillSpammar> Answer my question?
#394 [05:24] <bacon> I'm okay with music
#395 [05:24] <bacon> I guess
#396 [05:24] <bacon> not that I've pursued it
#397 [05:25] <KillSpammar> Im guessing people trying to eat you all the time doesnt help?
#398 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> Or can him
#399 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/zombies/c399/
#400 [05:26] <KillSpammar> Ermm...
#401 [05:27] * KillSpammar puts bacon on his frying pan
#401 [05:27] <KillSpammar> Same drill :)
#402 [05:27] * KillSpammar puits a special lock on his frying pan that allows no others to touch the bacon
#402 [05:27] <KillSpammar> OTher than him
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#404 [05:28] * GreyVulpine levitates said bacon on magnets and eats it
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#406 [05:29] <bacon> Stop eating me, it's so annoying!
#407 [05:30] * KillSpammar lock makes bacon appear in his hand
#407 [05:31] <KillSpammar> Bacon is cooked perfectly
#408 [05:31] * bacon uses bacon powers
#408 [05:31] * KillSpammar puts bacon in ultra sealed bag and places him in top security facility
#408 [05:31] * bacon destroys the bag and lock
#408 [05:31] <KillSpammar> YOu will live for ever bacon
#409 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> Noooo.. bacon wants to be freeee
#410 [05:31] * zampa calls chuck norris and tells him to steal it.
#410 [05:31] * GreyVulpine frees said bacon
#410 [05:32] <KillSpammar> But his special security gives radiation powers to bacon and bacon becomes SuperBacon!
#411 [05:32] * bacon flies away using aforementioned bacon powers
#411 [05:32] * KillSpammar also turns into SuperBaconGirl
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#412 [05:33] <SuperBaconGirl> SuperBaconGirl here :)
#413 [05:34] <Alythul> Should I send that email my transaction ID as well?
#414 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#415 [05:34] <SuperBaconGirl> mollstam, killspammer told me to chat to you :)
#416 [05:35] <SuperBaconGirl> And send your credit card details to me
#417 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> Wait, is mollstam here?
#418 [05:37] <SuperBaconGirl> Yes
#419 [05:37] * GreyVulpine pokes mollstam
#419 [05:37] <SuperBaconGirl> He is away though
#420 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> Dang
#421 [05:38] <SuperBaconGirl> I know
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#423 [05:38] <SuperBaconGirl> Anyway back :S
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#426 [05:39] <Alythul> Okay thanks. o_o
#427 [05:39] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#428 [05:39] <KillSpammer> Voice is nice :)
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#430 [05:40] <KillSpammer> Oh god fog your double idling?!
#431 [05:41] <bacon> fog is in two places at the same time
#432 [05:41] <fogWork> I sure am
#433 [05:41] <fogWork> Well, not so much idling, just updated xenforo installation ;P
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#435 [05:53] <KillSpammer> Sure...
#436 [05:53] <KillSpammer> You should setup teamviewer at your house so you can do stuff at your hosue while at owrk :)
#437 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> funny thing
#438 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> [02:01.50am] <+fogWork> What in... bah, teamviewer is acting like a piece of poop on my machine at home, set password but says it's wrong, and I know it's right >_>
#439 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> !evil
#440 [05:55] <GreyBot> If I ever became an evil overlord, number 97. My dungeon cells will not be furnished with objects that contain reflective surfaces or anything that can be unravelled.
#441 [05:55] <bacon> why not
#442 [05:56] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#442 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> If you have to ask...
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#444 [05:57] <fogWork> GreyVulpine: keeping silly logs? :P
#445 [05:57] <fogWork> Teamviewer is plain evil
#446 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, I just updated my IRC client, that was just in my 9000 line buffer.
#447 [05:58] <SinZ> !evil
#448 [05:58] <GreyBot> If I ever became an evil overlord, number 41. Once my power is secure, I will destroy all those pesky time-travel devices.
#449 [05:58] <bacon> good idea
#450 [05:58] <SinZ> !evil
#451 [05:58] <GreyBot> If I ever became an evil overlord, number 76. If the hero runs up to my roof, I will not run up after him and struggle with him in an attempt to push him over the edge. I will also not engage him at the edge of a cliff. (In the middle of a rope-bridge over a river of molten lava is not even worth considering.)
#452 [05:59] <SinZ> !evil
#453 [05:59] <GreyBot> If I ever became an evil overlord, number 86. I will make sure that my doomsday device is up to code and properly grounded.
#454 [05:59] <SinZ> heh
#455 [05:59] <bacon> !stoppeoplefromabusing
#456 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#457 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> !part
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#459 [05:59] <SinZ> aww, doesn't work on pm
#460 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Oh, crap, I don't have him on any channels on this network
#461 [06:00] * GreyVulpine sighs
#461 [06:00] <SinZ> make a temp channel for him then
#462 [06:00] <fogWork> Har har ;P
#463 [06:00] <KillSpammer> FFS
#464 [06:00] <bacon> Put him on #notachannel
#465 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> Would be nice.. except !join #channel only works on channels he's on
#466 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> brb.
#467 [06:00] <SinZ> Lol
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#469 [06:01] <SinZ> !join #MCA
#470 [06:01] <SinZ> worth a try
#471 [06:02] <KillSpammer> I keepLol
#472 [06:02] * GreyVulpine laughs at today's xkcd comic
#472 [06:02] <SinZ> GreyVulpine: !join #MCA
#473 [06:03] <SinZ> i wanna play with evil
#474 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> !join #mca
#475 [06:05] <bacon> !join #notachannel
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#482 [06:43] <LordEddi> gah, minecraft.net still not resolving here :/
#483 [06:46] * bacon does a bacon dance
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#485 [06:53] <Diablothein> LordEddi, still moving.
#486 [06:54] <LordEddi> Diablothein: I know, but the DNS not resolving seems to be a problem my ISP has.
#487 [06:54] <LordEddi> The rest of my mates are able to resolve it + logging in.
#488 [06:55] <Diablothein> It's on a spur of the moment, sometimes I can log in sometimes I can't.
#489 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Try a different DNS?
#490 [06:57] * KillSpammer [KillSpammer@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#491 [06:57] <KillSpammer> Hey GreyVulpine
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#494 [06:57] <KillSpammer> I feel like setting up a nice FAQ for minecraft problems on my website
#495 [06:58] <KillSpammer> Want to help?
#496 [06:58] <melo> hio all
#497 [06:59] <melo> multiplayer is still not fixed rite?
#498 [06:59] <melo> mp or obt
#499 [06:59] <melo> of
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#501 [06:59] <TheScorp> YEY!
#502 [07:00] <TheScorp> Got the dns to update xD
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#504 [07:01] <LordEddi> Got it to work, Diablothein.
#505 [07:02] <LordEddi> Seems my router was having problems with the DNS.
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#508 [07:05] <LordEddi> Even online-mode=true works now :)
#509 [07:08] * GreyVulpine pokes KillSpammer
#509 [07:08] <KillSpammer> Yes?
#510 [07:08] <GreyVulpine> People have tried. you're not the only one to try for a FAQ
#511 [07:10] <KillSpammer> You have smashed my dreams GreyVulpine
#512 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> Feel free to try...
#513 [07:19] <KillSpammer> I got a blackscreen problem so far lol
#514 [07:19] <KillSpammer> Now im in brainfreeze
#515 [07:19] <KillSpammer> What other common problem happens?
#516 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Client or server
#517 [07:22] <KillSpammer> Both i guess
#518 [07:22] <grutchrule> test
#519 [07:23] <GreyVulpine> Well, there's a bunch that happen with bad mods
#520 [07:24] <KillSpammer> I got that up :)
#521 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> anything from bufferfoverflowexceptions to um
#522 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> yeah
#523 [07:26] <KillSpammer> Could you give me the lsit of emails for mojang and such?
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#526 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> markus/notch@mojang.com
#527 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> daniel@mojang.com
#528 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> payment@mojang.com
#529 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> support@mojang.com (for bug reports)
#530 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> carl@mojang.com
#531 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> for business apps
#532 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> I don't know mollstam's
#533 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> for web stuff
#534 [07:30] <KillSpammer> Ok thx
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#540 [07:33] <mollstam> You can email me at tobias@mojang.com
#541 [07:34] <KillSpammer> Ahh thanks
#542 [07:34] <KillSpammer> Oh and hi!
#543 [07:34] <KillSpammer> Hows the coffee?
#544 [07:34] <bacon> mollstam, I'll accept that hustle challenge now
#545 [07:34] <mollstam> oh sn-
#546 [07:35] <mbentley> burrrr it's cold outside :(
#547 [07:35] <mollstam> actually just had some pizza for lunch, so I guess have to drink some coffee so I don't hit a coma
#548 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Ah. hey mollstam.
#549 [07:35] <mollstam> how's things?
#550 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Got a question for you, know anything about why password resets don't work on the website?
#551 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Or if they don't link correctly?
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#553 [07:37] <fogWork> They don't work? O_o
#554 [07:38] <bacon> mollstam: could you possibly tell us what Junkboy's name is?
#555 [07:38] <KillSpammer> http://killspammer.net/mchelp.html <-- Rough Design
#556 [07:38] <KillSpammer> Want me to make it a subdomain?
#557 [07:39] * fogWork dies from blackreddness
#557 [07:39] <mbentley> KillSpammer: horrible idea
#558 [07:39] <mbentley> :D
#559 [07:39] <mbentley> how would you direct people to that? oh i know, put it in the topic
#560 [07:39] <bacon> thought is so overrated
#561 [07:40] <mbentley> but wait, they don't read that..
#562 [07:40] <mbentley> haha
#563 [07:40] <KillSpammer> Lol
#564 [07:40] <fogWork> Topics are for nubs :P
#565 [07:40] <KillSpammer> Just say it everytime someone askes a question you know its on there
#566 [07:40] <bacon> Put it in AuBot's message
#567 [07:40] <mbentley> i prefer throwing cake at them but eh
#568 [07:40] <bacon> People.. kind of read that
#569 [07:40] <fogWork> GreyVulpine: got something I want you to try
#570 [07:40] <GreyVulpine> Yo?
#571 [07:40] <fogWork> Ask something retardedly easy there, please :P
#572 [07:41] <KillSpammer> FIne then
#573 [07:41] <KillSpammer> I abandon that
#574 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> There's just way too much stuff to really cover, and minecraft changes all the time that I see people take one stab at something like this, and not have time to update
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#576 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> I mean, if you want, I can take a stab, but if you wanted to compile a list, just hang around here.
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#578 [07:43] * fogWork shuffles Grey to the PM
#578 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> O.o
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#580 [07:43] <ScottE> hello can someone help me out?
#581 [07:44] <fogWork> Whatcha need?
#582 [07:44] <ScottE> my minecraft crashes after loading
#583 [07:44] <mollstam> bacon: actually it's Junkboy
#584 [07:44] <ScottE> on browser and download
#585 [07:44] <mollstam> he's quite the mystery
#586 [07:44] <fogWork> ScottE: any messages, or it just hangs?
#587 [07:44] <ScottE> java crash
#588 [07:44] <ScottE> should I upload the error on pastebin?
#589 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes please
#590 [07:44] <fogWork> Please
#591 [07:44] <ScottE> ok one sec
#592 [07:46] <KillSpammer> Thinks he could add a few trusted users to a ftp account
#593 [07:46] <KillSpammer> To add to the page
#594 [07:47] <mbentley> ftp... eewwww :D
#595 [07:48] <KillSpammer> Eahh...
#596 [07:48] <ScottE> eh I cant select the text of the error
#597 [07:48] <mbentley> take a screen shot?
#598 [07:48] <ScottE> AppName: javaw.exe AppVer: 6.0.230.5 ModName: nvoglnt.dll
#599 [07:48] <ScottE> ModVer: 6.14.10.9136 Offset: 00032804
#600 [07:48] <ScottE> that's something that appears then there's a long text with codes
#601 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> nv... nvidia?
#602 [07:48] <ScottE> ye
#603 [07:48] <mbentley> that would be my first guess
#604 [07:49] <fogWork> Update videocard drivers
#605 [07:49] <GreyVulpine> ^
#606 [07:49] <mbentley> i'd say upgrade video card drivers from nvidia.com
#607 [07:49] * mbentley is late to the party
#607 [07:49] <ScottE> last time I opened minecraft I had no problems
#608 [07:49] <ScottE> started happening today
#609 [07:50] <fogWork> Happened to me once today after the "update", but worked fine after re-launching
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#611 [07:51] <ScottE> I re-launched the downloadable and from the browser a few times
#612 [07:51] <ScottE> I also re-downloaded the exe and deleted the old one
#613 [07:51] <ScottE> but each time after downloading/updating screen it crashes and shows
#614 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> Did you delete the .minecraft folder?
#615 [07:52] <fogWork> For shits and giggles, remove your old minecraft files from %appdata%\minecraft I think
#616 [07:52] <ScottE> javaw.exe has crashed
#617 [07:52] <ScottE> ok
#618 [07:52] <mbentley> %appdata%\.minecraft
#619 [07:52] <fogWork> ^
#620 [07:53] <ScottE> in what folder is that
#621 [07:53] <fogWork> Start -> Run
#622 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> Just type %appdata% in your run command
#623 [07:53] <ScottE> ah ok
#624 [07:53] <fogWork> Paste that line
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#626 [07:54] <ScottE> I dont see any minecraft folders in there
#627 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> /roaming/?
#628 [07:55] <ScottE> oh nvm
#629 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> and it's dot minecraft
#630 [07:55] <ScottE> yea
#631 [07:55] <ScottE> that
#632 [07:55] <ScottE> what do I delete in there
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#635 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> If you have saves to save.. move the /save folder out
#636 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> otherwise, delete the entire /.minecraft folder
#637 [07:56] <ScottE> ok
#638 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> When you launch minecraft again, it'll redownload everything
#639 [07:56] <ScottE> ok thank you
#640 [07:57] <ScottE> do I re-download the exe?
#641 [07:57] <ScottE> or just launch it again
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#643 [07:58] <fogWork> Launch it again
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#645 [07:59] <fogWork> And it will download everything anew
#646 [07:59] <ScottE> yup it's loading/dling now
#647 [07:59] <fogWork> Rawr, Safari crashed -_-
#648 [07:59] <ScottE> same error
#649 [08:00] <ScottE> javaw.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience
#650 [08:00] <mbentley> i'd suggest updating your video drivers from nvidia.com
#651 [08:00] <ScottE> hmm last time I did that I fucked up badly.
#652 [08:01] <ScottE> how is it my drivers tho
#653 [08:01] <ScottE> it worked fine yesterday
#654 [08:02] <mbentley> all of the information i can see points to the drivers
#655 [08:02] <mbentley> it certainly won't hurt
#656 [08:04] <GreyVulpine> Hey mollstam, does Daniel still answer his emails concerning support? Or has he been deluged with requests that he's got a backlog?
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#660 [08:15] <fogWork> Om nom nom, some tweaking to ze mighty phpness of script and this will look almost good :P
#661 [08:18] <mollstam> GreyVulpine: he answers them but has been lagging past days
#662 [08:18] <GreyVulpine> Ah, thanks, we've been directing support emails to him now, but have been hearing back that some have gone unanswered.
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#664 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> Was just a little concerned.
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#666 [08:22] <MK> Where can I find the water, lava, and portal textures in the .jar?
#667 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> Did you look at terrain.png?
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#669 [08:24] <MK> yeah
#670 [08:24] <MK> They're not in there from what I can tell
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#672 [08:25] <Solvius> hello
#673 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> bottom right?
#674 [08:25] <Solvius> is minecraft.net now completely doen ?
#675 [08:25] <Solvius> *w :)
#676 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't be
#677 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> It's up for me
#678 [08:26] <Solvius> now I get a site :)
#679 [08:26] <MK> I don't know if that's the correct lava texture
#680 [08:26] <ScottE> "minecraft.net is down, be patient."
#681 [08:26] <MK> I just want to finish my block list thing
#682 [08:26] <GreyVulpine> Well bah, it was up a minute ago
#683 [08:27] <mollstam> Solvius: It's completely up!
#684 [08:27] <bacon> hmm
#685 [08:27] <Solvius> its up now, allthough I get the game thru browser, but i cant log into my server
#686 [08:27] <bacon> Doesn't appear..
#687 [08:28] <MK> http://mk.sepwich.com/Minecraft/id.html <-- this is the best I can do so far
#688 [08:28] <Solvius> lol the whole browser freezes grin
#689 [08:29] <mbentley> i just look at the wiki myself
#690 [08:29] <MK> weird, what happened to the word clock
#691 [08:29] * MK go fix
#691 [08:30] <MK> fixed
#692 [08:32] <Solvius> allright I on me server :) all's well... :0
#693 [08:32] <GreyVulpine> Yay
#694 [08:33] <Solvius> how's your mIRC going GreyVulpine ?
#695 [08:33] <GreyVulpine> Still need to make a few changes, gotta dig through some old scripts, figure out what the heck I did before, and how to put it back in
#696 [08:34] <Solvius> that can be a awfful lot of work
#697 [08:34] <MK> Oh and Fire. Dunno where the fire texture is
#698 [08:34] <GreyVulpine> terrain.png, but I think it's animated in code
#699 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> There's just a spot for it in the upper right
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#701 [08:35] <MK> Yeah exactly
#702 [08:35] <pieter_> hi all
#703 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#704 [08:35] <MK> It's not the same format to make it easy for me to extract :P
#705 [08:35] <MK> hi pieter_
#706 [08:35] <pieter_> since the last updates i haven't been able to play minecraft
#707 [08:35] <pieter_> it keeps on crashing (macbook pro)
#708 [08:35] <pieter_> anyone else has the problem?
#709 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> Any error logs?
#710 [08:35] <pieter_> sure
#711 [08:36] <pieter_> sec
#712 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com them?
#713 [08:36] <zampa> Intresting how people tend to use URL-adresses as verb nowdays.
#714 [08:36] <pieter_> it's every time i want to open inventory, wanna chat, wanna pause
#715 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> If I say pastebin, people still think I mean 'paste entire text here"
#716 [08:37] <pieter_> http://pastebin.com/1YawREqP
#717 [08:37] <zampa> GreyVulpine: Oh, some people are that stupid? >.<
#718 [08:37] <pieter_> and i know pastebin ;)
#719 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> I have logs.
#720 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> Oh god, I have logs..
#721 [08:37] <MK> lol
#722 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> pieter_ - Is this on an MP server?
#723 [08:38] <pieter_> yep
#724 [08:38] * GreyVulpine nods
#724 [08:39] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, a corrupt profile for your character
#725 [08:39] <pieter_> we've deleted the profile yesterday
#726 [08:39] <GreyVulpine> Do you have access to the server files?
#727 [08:39] <GreyVulpine> You did?
#728 [08:39] <pieter_> yep
#729 [08:39] <pieter_> yesterday i could only play in browser, not in desktop app
#730 [08:39] <pieter_> today not on both :)
#731 [08:40] <pieter_> and it's not only inventory, simply pressing 'esc' also makes it crash
#732 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> Interesting.
#733 [08:40] <pieter_> somthing with gui overlay maybe...
#734 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> Running a mod or two?
#735 [08:40] <pieter_> nope, no mods
#736 [08:41] <pieter_> hm, all of a sudden, i can play it in the browser again
#737 [08:41] <pieter_> problem only occurs in desktop app now
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#739 [08:42] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, running multi-monitors by chance?
#740 [08:42] <Sevaldsen> Do anyone know about a online server that i can join?
#741 [08:42] <pieter_> yep, i'm running 2 monitors
#742 [08:43] <pieter_> my laptop + external
#743 [08:43] <GreyVulpine> I don't suppose you're running minecraft on the external when this happens
#744 [08:43] <pieter_> yep, I do
#745 [08:43] <pieter_> :)
#746 [08:44] <pieter_> so, just running it on my primary would fix it?
#747 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> Seems like somebody else has reported the same problem on the bug tracker
#748 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_crash_on_focus_change_macosx_secondary_screen
#749 [08:44] <Sevaldsen> GreyVulpine - do you know any online servers i can join? : )
#750 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> Sevaldsen - To play on?
#751 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> Or to test?
#752 [08:44] <pieter_> i've been googling for about 3 days on it
#753 [08:44] <Sevaldsen> je
#754 [08:44] <Sevaldsen> play
#755 [08:45] <pieter_> let's try it out
#756 [08:45] <GreyVulpine> Sevaldsen - http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#757 [08:45] <Sevaldsen> thanks :-)
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#759 [08:46] <pieter_> @GreyVulpine that worked
#760 [08:46] <pieter_> thanks a lot!
#761 [08:46] * GreyVulpine nods
#761 [08:46] <pieter_> still kinda sucks it crashes on secondary screen
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#763 [08:46] <pieter_> but i'll live :)
#764 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> Heh, maybe add your own report to that link as well.
#765 [08:49] <pieter_> did that
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#770 [08:57] <Sevaldsen> GreyVulpine - Is there any servers, where me and a friend can play from the start...kinda ;p
#771 [08:57] <TheReddeH> http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/550285
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#773 [09:07] <N3RF> Minecraft working again?
#774 [09:08] <mbentley> seems to be :)
#775 [09:08] <N3RF> OK, just logged into my server and all the stuff i build is gone
#776 [09:08] <N3RF> - totally new map too
#777 [09:08] <mbentley> did you delete it?
#778 [09:08] <N3RF> no
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#780 [09:09] <mbentley> check the server files folder to see if it is still there
#781 [09:09] <N3RF> How do you change world in a server?
#782 [09:10] <mbentley> either rename the 'world' folder or change server.properties
#783 [09:10] <mbentley> level-name=
#784 [09:14] <N3RF> Cant find it
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#788 [09:28] <Kealper> i totally ninja'd that internet cable right out of the jack
#789 [09:28] <TheReddeH> unninja it :(
#790 [09:28] <Kealper> i did lol
#791 [09:28] <Kealper> best part is i didn't dc from ssh lol
#792 [09:28] <Kealper> the clock on it just stopped updating so i was like OHSHIT
#793 [09:29] <TheReddeH> i have no idea what ssh is ;p
#794 [09:29] <Kealper> u.u
#795 [09:29] <Kealper> text-based remote desktop
#796 [09:30] <TheReddeH> ah ;p
#797 [09:31] <TheReddeH> http://lh6.ggpht.com/_vNEr2cHnfAg/TLcvLhNgjDI/AAAAAAAAAmY/HYRUp2fKmWE/Naamloos.jpg hah
#798 [09:32] <Kealper> lol
#799 [09:33] <mbentley> heh
#800 [09:33] <Kealper> banning griefers....that almost makes me want to start up a classic server agian
#801 [09:33] <Kealper> again*
#802 [09:34] <TheReddeH> lol
#803 [09:34] <mbentley> awe, i should have asked about the 'http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.jar' link still showing a 404...
#804 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> Already have
#805 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> Think mollstam's away
#806 [09:34] <Kealper> was already mentioned to mollstam
#807 [09:34] <mbentley> ah cool
#808 [09:34] <TheReddeH> i wish beta would get creative mode
#809 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> It will, down the line
#810 [09:35] <TheReddeH> and some option to set the day/night cycles
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#812 [09:35] <TheReddeH> everytime im getting in the building rythm its getting night :(
#813 [09:35] <TheReddeH> so annoying
#814 [09:35] <Kealper> indeed...i'd like a way to get/set player positions, and get/set server time
#815 [09:35] <Kaunigmna> Is there anyone who could possibly answer my questions here? xD
#816 [09:36] <mbentley> depends on your question :)
#817 [09:36] <TheReddeH> if theyre not too hard
#818 [09:36] <Kealper> "Don't ask to ask, just ask!"
#819 [09:36] <Kaunigmna> <_<
#820 [09:36] <mbentley> well, there goes your one question limit
#821 [09:36] <TheReddeH> ty again tomorrow
#822 [09:36] <TheReddeH> bye!
#823 [09:36] <Kaunigmna> Well i havent been able to play in 4 days, I keep getting an error and minecraft crashes
#824 [09:36] <mbentley> </sarcasm>
#825 [09:36] <mbentley> heh
#826 [09:36] <Kaunigmna> Ive tried reinstalling, Reinstalling java and even emailing notch and nothing seems to work xD
#827 [09:36] <mbentley> what error would that be? if it is long, please use pastebin.com
#828 [09:37] <Kaunigmna> Give me a sec, LEt me open MC to get it
#829 [09:37] <TheReddeH> emailing notch wouldnt work, youd have to call and/or go to his house
#830 [09:37] <Kaunigmna> http://pastebin.com/pBdLJrgf
#831 [09:38] <TheReddeH> 1.2_02?! mine only is 1.2_01 :(
#832 [09:38] <Kaunigmna> i just updated again today
#833 [09:38] <Kaunigmna> Thats why its 02
#834 [09:38] <TheReddeH> me too but version number didnt change :o
#835 [09:38] <mbentley> trying to run any mods?
#836 [09:39] <Kaunigmna> Nope, No mods
#837 [09:39] <TheReddeH> oh maybe because i hd textured fixed it
#838 [09:39] <Kaunigmna> I have them in my MC folder. But im not running any of them
#839 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> Kaunigmna - I'd start with a fresh download of minecraft, delete your .minecraft/bin folder and have it redownload
#840 [09:40] <Kaunigmna> Let me try that, I havent tried reinstalling with deletion of the .bin just the exe xD
#841 [09:41] <Kaunigmna> Where is the minecraft/bin folder?
#842 [09:41] <Kaunigmna> i cant find it :X
#843 [09:41] <mbentley> %appdata%\.minecraft
#844 [09:43] <Kaunigmna> Whoops, Just killed explorer xD
#845 [09:44] <Kaunigmna> Alright,Greyvulpine just delete the bin folder?
#846 [09:44] <Kaunigmna> Or everything in that folder?
#847 [09:44] <SinZ> GreyVulpine: or delete the version file, it'll redownload
#848 [09:45] * GreyVulpine nods
#848 [09:45] <SinZ> Kaunigmna: delete the version file inside the bin folder, it'll redownload the files
#849 [09:45] <Kaunigmna> im just deleteing every minecraft file atm
#850 [09:46] <Kaunigmna> With the exception of my server
#851 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> That'll work too
#852 [09:46] <SinZ> the only files that you would need to delete would be version, or minecraft.jar
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#854 [09:46] <Kaunigmna> Well it will all redownload regardless
#855 [09:47] <Kaunigmna> HEy it worked! :D
#856 [09:47] <Kaunigmna> Thanks guys :)
#857 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> Good to hear
#858 [09:47] * mbentley gives GreyVulpine and SinZ gold stars
#858 [09:47] <Kaunigmna> Ive been deprived of minecraft for 4 days xD
#859 [09:48] <SinZ> =D
#860 [09:48] * SinZ gloats about the star
#860 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Wow... "World of Starcraft modder gets job offer"
#861 [09:48] <SinZ> LOL
#862 [09:48] * GreyVulpine blinks
#862 [09:48] <SinZ> theres World of warcraft, world of minecraft, now world of starcraft?! ANYONE SEE THE PATTERN@?!#@$$#
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#864 [09:48] <TheReddeH> as sanitation specialist?
#865 [09:49] <xolotl> Unfortunately it's a job bussing tables at the local pizza place, but whatever, eh?
#866 [09:49] <xolotl> d'oh
#867 [09:49] * xolotl shakes a fist at TheReddeH
#867 [09:49] <xolotl> a FIST!
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#869 [09:49] <TheReddeH> i get job offers allll the time ;p
#870 [09:53] <mbentley> taking out the trash, sweeping floors, doing dishes != job offers :D
#871 [09:54] <TheReddeH> i know ;p
#872 [09:54] <nightbacon> Hey
#873 [09:54] <nightbacon> I need a star too
#874 [09:54] <TheReddeH> well u aint getting one
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#876 [10:01] * mbentley gives bacon a star for tastiness
#876 [10:02] <TheReddeH> yeah go ahead spoil him, give everything he wants
#877 [10:02] <mbentley> he is delicious bacon
#878 [10:02] <mbentley> OM NOM NOM
#879 [10:02] <bacon> why
#880 [10:03] <bacon> why does everyone try to eat me
#881 [10:03] * bacon explodes in mbentley's mouth
#881 [10:03] <TheReddeH> eew
#882 [10:05] <NinjaKirby> Tell tale sign in the sizzling noise, "Tsssssss"
#883 [10:05] <bacon> drupal
#884 [10:05] <bacon> DRUPAL?
#885 [10:06] <bacon> Short description: An advanced portal with collaborative book, search engines friendly URLs, online help, roles, full content search, site watching, threaded comments, version control, blogging, news aggregator.
#886 [10:06] <NinjaKirby> wat
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#891 [10:17] * bacon fail
#891 [10:21] <Lorax> is it safe to let my client connect to minecraft.net again?
#892 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#893 [10:21] <Lorax> thanks
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#900 [10:39] <some1> hi. when download link for minecraft linux launcher will be available?
#901 [10:40] <Sebax> Leme paste it
#902 [10:40] <Sebax> is on twitt
#903 [10:41] <Sebax> http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar?v=1295601682310
#904 [10:41] <Sebax> THere
#905 [10:41] <Sebax> Now
#906 [10:42] <Sebax> Can someone tell me why i cant connect into any SMP Server?
#907 [10:43] <Kealper> Sebax: what does it say when you try?
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#909 [10:43] <Kealper> damnit
#910 [10:44] <Kealper> gotta love Michigan
#911 [10:44] <Kealper> left a ton of bottle water out on the porch last night....it's currently bottled ice -.-
#912 [10:45] <some1> now it works
#913 [10:45] <some1> thnx
#914 [10:45] <Kealper> the high temp today is 13 degrees F...low is -1 -.-
#915 [10:45] <TheReddeH> why would u put ice in a bottle... u cant get it out!! silly americans:()
#916 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#917 [10:45] <Kealper> lol
#918 [10:45] <TheReddeH> at least it didnt get stolen ;p
#919 [10:46] <Kealper> meh lol
#920 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, where kealper lives, it's more likely to be shot at
#921 [10:46] <Kealper> XD
#922 [10:46] <TheReddeH> hes from texas?
#923 [10:46] <Kealper> i live like 60 miles away from the country's biggest ghetto
#924 [10:47] * GreyVulpine snerks
#924 [10:47] <TheReddeH> so what are your gangcolours
#925 [10:47] <TheReddeH> ;p
#926 [10:48] <Kealper> although this place is usually pretty tame, someone got stabbed last year and they wouldn't shut up about it in the local news for weeks, where as if that happened in Detroit, that would not even have made the paper lol
#927 [10:48] <TheReddeH> depends who gets stabbed ;p
#928 [10:48] <Kealper> true....lol
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#930 [10:50] <Rasmus> Hi all :)
#931 [10:50] <Kealper> ello
#932 [10:50] <TheReddeH> lo you
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#934 [10:52] <Rasmus> can anyone tell me, how come, when I just BOUGHT the game, and it updates on launch, that I still get my done loading at 90% and then local black screen of the game ?
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#936 [10:53] <Kealper> Rasmus: you've deleted all the stuff in .minecraft?
#937 [10:53] <Rasmus> Kealper: Did a fresh install
#938 [10:53] <Rasmus> launched minecraft.exe (the 228 KB file), and just made it download everything from scratch
#939 [10:54] <Kealper> so you did delete the .minecraft folder, and deleted the minecraft.exe and redownloaded it?
#940 [10:54] <Kealper> (checking to make sure)
#941 [10:54] <Rasmus> didn't redownload minecraft.exe .. But I can give it a go
#942 [10:55] <Kealper> yea, delete all the .minecraft crap in appdata then redownload the exe
#943 [10:55] <Mihomis> I am having a launcher issue, it says it can't connect to minecraft.net ... and i am connected to the internet, any sugestions?
#944 [10:56] <Kealper> Mihomis: what browser do you use?
#945 [10:56] <Kealper> and did it say it once, or does it say it every time your try to connect?
#946 [10:57] <Mihomis> i just noticed it today, i havent played for a few days, i use windows, and i use Rockmelt as my browser
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#949 [10:58] <Kealper> so it has been continually saying can't connect to minecraft.net today?
#950 [10:58] <Mihomis> yes
#951 [10:58] <Kealper> open internet explorer and clear it's browser cache/cookies
#952 [10:58] <Kealper> close that, then try again
#953 [10:58] <Rasmus> back
#954 [10:58] <Kealper> wb
#955 [10:59] <Mihomis> ok i will try that
#956 [10:59] <i81u812> so has anyone used the minecraft save managers?
#957 [10:59] <i81u812> any problems with it?
#958 [10:59] <Kealper> is it a mod or a separate program?
#959 [10:59] <Rasmus> Kealper: Just tried redownloading the minecraft.exe from the website.. had no luck on that one
#960 [11:00] <Kealper> if it's a mod, i would not trust it with my saves, if it's a 3rd party tool, then it'd probably work fine
#961 [11:00] <i81u812> third part tool it seems
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#963 [11:00] <i81u812> party
#964 [11:00] <Kealper> Rasmus: crap....well then....what's your ingame username that you paid for it on?
#965 [11:01] <mib_cl8lh7> how i find inline servers?
#966 [11:01] <Rasmus> Rasmus4J
#967 [11:01] <Kealper> !paid Rasmus4J
#968 [11:01] <i81u812> it seems to have some nice options.... zero effort involved and a back up for your back ups just in case
#969 [11:01] <Kealper> ok then, to PM!
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#971 [11:08] <i81u812> so just copying and pasting is sufficent enough for a back up though right?
#972 [11:10] <mbentley> sure
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#976 [11:24] <KING_OZAN> when will the minecraft.jar be back online?
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#978 [11:26] <LordEddi> Isnt it online?
#979 [11:26] <KING_OZAN> no
#980 [11:26] <LordEddi> If you use the buttom link on the download page?
#981 [11:27] <KING_OZAN> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.jar?v=1295627194275
#982 [11:27] <KING_OZAN> is offline
#983 [11:28] <mbentley> use http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar
#984 [11:28] <mbentley> the webserver is case sensitive
#985 [11:28] <mbentley> and for some reason, they changed the case
#986 [11:28] <KING_OZAN> thx
#987 [11:28] <mbentley> i did a md5sum of the file to make sure and it is the same as what i had downloaded before
#988 [11:29] <LordEddi> Thats basicly why that buttomlink on the download page works
#989 [11:29] <LordEddi> Since that points to minecraft.jar?blablablablaba instead of Minecraft.jar
#990 [11:30] <mbentley> before there were actually two files, minecraft.jar and Minecraft.jar and minecraft.jar was the wrong one
#991 [11:30] <LordEddi> aha
#992 [11:31] <mbentley> the lower case was actually the file that gets extracted to ~\.minecraft\bin\
#993 [11:31] <KING_OZAN> will this stay or will it be changed sometimes?
#994 [11:31] <KING_OZAN> i mean, will the downloadlink work again soon?
#995 [11:31] <mbentley> i would imagine they would fix it...
#996 [11:33] <KING_OZAN> ok
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#999 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> mollstam is on it
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#1001 [11:39] <Kealper> does anyone else get their banhammers ready when someone with the name of "mudkip1123" or similar joins? lol
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#1003 [11:40] <Morgath> anyone know why when I try to log on to mc it can never connect to minecraft.net starting last night. then when I hit offline multiplayer, it says Login Failed: User not Premium. I bought the game about a week ago.
#1004 [11:41] <monkeyslayer56> might be related to the server change
#1005 [11:41] <Morgath> alright. I'm hoping it is.
#1006 [11:42] <Rasmus> Can someone help me with a black screen problem ? Kealper already did what he could, but saly it didn't fix the problem :/
#1007 [11:43] <Rasmus> sadly*
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#1009 [11:43] <monkeyslayer56> any one have any ideas on Internal exception: Java.net.SocketException: Connection reset, ive been getting that since i bought the game and the forms say its been a problem for months, ironically last night was the first time i could join smp for more then 2 min
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#1013 [11:54] <SinZ> Night people
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#1015 [11:55] <Solvius> goodnight
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#1020 [12:04] <kalle_kula> add me on independentt@hotmail.com
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#1022 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Oh hi
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#1025 [12:06] <DopeGhoti> thanks for /noticing.
#1026 [12:08] <LordEddi> Hm, started having some weird freezes on my windows 7 machine when playing minecraft now..Screen just goes black, and it goes unresponsive. Tried deleting everything, and reinstalling the game, but it still keeps happening. :(
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#1031 [12:21] <Solvius> how can ya make such a minecraft movie what ya see on youtube ?
#1032 [12:22] <DopeGhoti> With a screen or application recorder
#1033 [12:23] <Solvius> screen recorder ?
#1034 [12:23] <DopeGhoti> A program that records what you have onscreen? It seemed obvious in context.
#1035 [12:24] <xolotl> Solvius: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=screen+recorder
#1036 [12:24] <Solvius> like CamStudio ?
#1037 [12:24] <Solvius> I take a look
#1038 [12:24] <Solvius> lol
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#1041 [12:27] <Solvius> thats nice CamStudio has a help file :)
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#1044 [12:34] <Braxadde> Hi is there any way i can change my nickname ingame?
#1045 [12:34] <DopeGhoti> Braxadde: no, it's connected to your Minecraft account name, which there is currently no way of changing.
#1046 [12:34] <Braxadde> oh no :(
#1047 [12:34] <Braxadde> i want too fool my friends that i'm some random dude
#1048 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> say buy yourself a gift account with the name RandomDude then.
#1049 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> s/say/so/
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#1060 [13:15] <ferdinand> hello
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#1064 [13:18] <ferdinand> I've got quite annoying problem under linux, in fact it makes it unable to play, as when I log in, if it has anything to download, it will do it, and if not, or after downloading the screen will become black and won't response to anything (except killing). My OS is ubuntu. Does anyone had similar problem or maybe know what may be the purpose?
#1065 [13:18] <fogwraith> What video drivers?
#1066 [13:19] <ferdinand> hmm not sure, as it's on the laptop I didn't check
#1067 [13:19] <ferdinand> do you know the way in which I may easily check it?
#1068 [13:19] <Mjiig> ferdinand: have you got sun java?
#1069 [13:20] <ferdinand> yep
#1070 [13:20] <ferdinand> the actual one as far as I know
#1071 [13:20] <DopeGhoti> Mjiig: There is no Sun Java anymore. There is only Oracle Java.
#1072 [13:20] <Mjiig> have you uninstalled openjdk?
#1073 [13:20] <xolotl> ferdinand: I had that on my laptop; sometimes replacing the lwjgl libraries with the most recent from lwjgl.org helped
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#1075 [13:20] <Mjiig> DopeGhoti: still called sun java in the ubuntu repos
#1076 [13:20] <fogwraith> The default drivers should be nouveau, which won't get you far with gaming, especially not opengl
#1077 [13:20] <Mjiig> not my fault
#1078 [13:20] <xolotl> ferdinand: specifically jinput.jar, lwjgl*.jar, and the stuff in natives/
#1079 [13:20] <DopeGhoti> Mjiig: yes, of this I am aware.
#1080 [13:21] <xolotl> ferdinand: "glxinfo | grep -i opengl" will tell you what drivers you're using
#1081 [13:21] <ferdinand> shall I paste?
#1082 [13:21] <xolotl> ferdinand: a pastebin would be better. :)
#1083 [13:21] <ferdinand> I think so too
#1084 [13:22] <ferdinand> http://wklej.org/id/461543/
#1085 [13:22] <xolotl> ferdinand: Try the lwjgl.org thing though; that did help me
#1086 [13:23] <ferdinand> it's what it tells about openjdk: http://wklej.org/id/461545/
#1087 [13:23] <mbentley> java -version ?
#1088 [13:23] <ferdinand> 1.6.0_20
#1089 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> That is a little old
#1090 [13:23] <mbentley> is that openjdk?
#1091 [13:24] <ferdinand> I don'tthink so
#1092 [13:24] <mbentley> what is the full output...
#1093 [13:24] <ferdinand> http://wklej.org/id/461547/
#1094 [13:24] <mbentley> yeah, that is openjdk then
#1095 [13:24] <mbentley> i would install the 'sun-java6-jre' package
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#1097 [13:25] <Mjiig> ferdinand: dpkg --get-selections | grep openjkd
#1098 [13:25] <mbentley> might have to enable the partner repos
#1099 [13:25] <DopeGhoti> (FWIW, OpenJDK runs Minecraft fine for me, and in fact better notwithstanding the occasional sound hiccup, but trying Oracle JRE is a good troubleshooting step)
#1100 [13:25] <ferdinand> I've got it installed
#1101 [13:25] <mbentley> sudo update-alternatives --config java
#1102 [13:25] <Mjiig> DopeGhoti: equally it doesn't work for many people
#1103 [13:25] <DopeGhoti> Mjiig: which is why trying Oracle Java is a good troubleshooting step.
#1104 [13:26] <Mjiig> are you on ubuntu btw?
#1105 [13:26] <ferdinand> yes
#1106 [13:26] <mbentley> you should see an entry that has 'java-6-sun' in it
#1107 [13:26] <mbentley> and choose that one
#1108 [13:26] * fogwraith still thinks the video drivers are at fault here
#1108 [13:26] <fogwraith> If one does not know, it runs the default
#1109 [13:26] <fogwraith> != 3D fun
#1110 [13:27] <ferdinand> I am not the only person to maintain this computer, so your theory may fail, you know
#1111 [13:27] * fogwraith shrugs
#1111 [13:28] <mbentley> once you have changed it to the entry with 'java-6-sun', recheck 'java -version'
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#1113 [13:30] <OsteHovel> Can i load a single player savegame on a multiplayer server and continiue to play?
#1114 [13:30] <mbentley> yes
#1115 [13:30] <mbentley> just copy the world directory to the server
#1116 [13:30] <OsteHovel> I guess i lose everything in the inventory ?
#1117 [13:30] <mbentley> OsteHovel: place everything in a chest
#1118 [13:30] <ferdinand> I can't do such thing as far as I'm not an admin here, if admin comes back we shall continue I hope
#1119 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> OsteHovel: rename player.dat to $ACCOUNTNAME.day.
#1120 [13:30] <OsteHovel> mbentley: yes i guessed that ;)
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#1122 [13:31] <OsteHovel> ;)
#1123 [13:31] <OsteHovel> Thanks, and thanks again for a fast reply ;)
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#1125 [13:31] <mbentley> wasn't sure if you could rename the player.dat. good to know
#1126 [13:32] <OsteHovel> Is there someway to view a map ingame? (i know i can do it with 3rd party application outside)
#1127 [13:32] <OsteHovel> (a=the)
#1128 [13:32] <mbentley> nothing natively
#1129 [13:32] <Mjiig> ferdinand: can you run dpkg --get-selections | grep openjdk
#1130 [13:32] <Mjiig> that doesn't take admin priveledges
#1131 [13:32] <mbentley> Mjiig: what is the point of that?
#1132 [13:33] <ferdinand> yes
#1133 [13:33] <mbentley> openjdk is installed
#1134 [13:33] <mbentley> http://wklej.org/id/461545/
#1135 [13:33] <ferdinand> but Ive already pasted you that
#1136 [13:33] <Mjiig> ah yes
#1137 [13:33] <Mjiig> i missed that, sorry
#1138 [13:33] <ferdinand> no problem
#1139 [13:33] <ferdinand> thank you for the help
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#1142 [13:34] <Mjiig> ferdinand: if you can't solve it any other way, see if you can get an admin to swap to sun java in the partner repositories, i tend to find it's better for other stuff as well
#1143 [13:34] <OsteHovel> (windows) can i move the the content of the .mindcraft inside appdata/roaming to the folder i store mindcraft.exe and like its "portable" (all stored in that directory or directories under it)
#1144 [13:35] <mbentley> OsteHovel: not that i am aware of
#1145 [13:35] <OsteHovel> ok
#1146 [13:36] <OsteHovel> Its not relly a issue i just woundered ;)
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#1149 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> OsteHovel: that option should be coming in a futire update apparently
#1150 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> see notch.tumblr.com for (some) information on the new launcher
#1151 [13:38] <ferdinand> is the water control device (with redstone) in minecraft on purpose or this is a result of being economical with operations amount?
#1152 [13:38] <ferdinand> (about refreshing the way to go for the water)
#1153 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> ferdinand: I think it's just that Redstone triggers attached blocks to 'update' themselves, and that makes fluids reset their flows.
#1154 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> If all fluid blocks were to be recalculating their flows every tick, oceans would make the game engine fall over and die.
#1155 [13:40] <ferdinand> yeah
#1156 [13:41] <OsteHovel> DopeGhoti: Ye it does infact looks like it will be posible ;) Notch is a genius! ;)
#1157 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> So insead, fluids only recalculate when an adjacent block changes its status. Cheap, but effective, but things like redstone flow 'control' are side-effects of the polict
#1158 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> er, policy
#1159 [13:41] <OsteHovel> Cool quote from the page: "This is my personal blog, but it's like 95% about Minecraft development."
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#1161 [13:41] <Mjiig> i believe if any block changes all other blocks adjacents are updated but i could be wrong
#1162 [13:42] <DopeGhoti> ^this.
#1163 [13:42] <MK> yeah that's correct
#1164 [13:42] <DopeGhoti> (and update != change. A change is an update, but an update doesn't mean a change)
#1165 [13:42] <ferdinand> yeah
#1166 [13:42] <ferdinand> but if you mine near the water source
#1167 [13:42] <ferdinand> it doesn't update itself
#1168 [13:42] <Mjiig> indeed
#1169 [13:42] <ferdinand> does it?
#1170 [13:43] <ferdinand> (sometimes it does)
#1171 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> ferdinand: if you mine _near_ the source, no, but if you mine adjacent to it, I think so
#1172 [13:43] <Mjiig> by near do you mean next to, or just close to
#1173 [13:43] <ferdinand> next to
#1174 [13:43] <Mjiig> yeah it does
#1175 [13:43] <ferdinand> (not under)
#1176 [13:43] <ferdinand> ah...
#1177 [13:43] <ferdinand> yes, right
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#1179 [13:45] <MK> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=53918&p=866260
#1180 [13:45] <MK> ^
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#1183 [13:46] <ferdinand> ah, and is it possible to create infinitive lava source now?
#1184 [13:46] <Mjiig_> ferdinand: i don't think so
#1185 [13:46] <ferdinand> I've seen some films on youtube, some says yes, some says it was, some says no
#1186 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> All the ones I have seen have been very buggy and unreliable
#1187 [13:48] <NinjaKirby> Is anyone noting any detrimental spikes in performance after the latest patch?
#1188 [13:48] <ferdinand> the only says yes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4fwNObjrrg
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#1190 [13:49] <ferdinand> it's 1.2.6
#1191 [13:50] <ferdinand> I haven
#1192 [13:50] <ferdinand> 't tried it though, as I am unable to play right now ;)
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#1194 [13:51] <ferdinand> what do you think?
#1195 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> 1.2.6?
#1196 [13:52] <ferdinand> is it old?
#1197 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> What is 1.2.6?
#1198 [13:53] <ferdinand> ah
#1199 [13:53] <ferdinand> it's alpha 1.2.6
#1200 [13:53] <ferdinand> not beta
#1201 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> Why are you still running such an old version?
#1202 [13:54] <ferdinand> I'm not...
#1203 [13:54] <ferdinand> on the video it is
#1204 [13:54] <ferdinand> I didn't notice
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#1206 [13:57] <DopeGhoti> ah
#1207 [13:57] <ferdinand> that's shameful that you cannot do an infinitive lava source anymore :(
#1208 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> "shameful" is a pretty strong word.
#1209 [13:58] <NinjaKirby> It's troublesome, but I also kinda welcome having to work for it, i.e. Going down to my Cavern once in a while, watch out for Mobs.
#1210 [13:59] <NinjaKirby> Grinding the Meat Cooking, that's what gets me most
#1211 [14:01] <genshou> Who cares if you can't get infinite lava? Just go to the Nether :D
#1212 [14:01] <ferdinand> going to the nether for every x buckets of lava is quite irrational
#1213 [14:02] <genshou> Take a lot of buckets along? ;D
#1214 [14:02] <ferdinand> as if I want to build a true lava imperium
#1215 [14:02] <genshou> (what are you using so many lava sources for, anyway?)
#1216 [14:02] <ferdinand> lava labirynth
#1217 [14:02] <ferdinand> a tricky one
#1218 [14:03] <genshou> I don't get it.
#1219 [14:03] <ferdinand> :D
#1220 [14:03] <ferdinand> I am sure you don't
#1221 [14:03] <genshou> Are you trying to build a maze with walls made out of lavafalls?
#1222 [14:03] <ferdinand> partially you're right here
#1223 [14:03] <genshou> ;<
#1224 [14:03] <ferdinand> it's build of some cells
#1225 [14:03] <ferdinand> one cell
#1226 [14:03] <ferdinand> is
#1227 [14:03] <ferdinand> 3x3
#1228 [14:04] <ferdinand> surrounded with lava
#1229 [14:04] <ferdinand> + ummm...
#1230 [14:04] <ferdinand> wagon
#1231 [14:04] <ferdinand> to teleport between
#1232 [14:04] <ferdinand> you don't see what is in the next cell as lava is opace
#1233 [14:05] <ferdinand> some of them are OK to teleport to
#1234 [14:05] <ferdinand> some are deadly
#1235 [14:05] <sTEINHAUG> is the server down?
#1236 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> how are you effecting the teleportation?
#1237 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> sTEINHAUG: "the server"?
#1238 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> which server?
#1239 [14:05] <sTEINHAUG> login servern
#1240 [14:05] <NinjaKirby> Rotate the Teleporter 90 Degress so one re-appears and falls in
#1241 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> not according to the players on my server.
#1242 [14:05] <ferdinand> just try to jump in to the wagon in the next cell
#1243 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> ferdinand: how are you effecting the teleportation?
#1244 [14:06] <sTEINHAUG> havent cant join all day..
#1245 [14:06] <sTEINHAUG> login
#1246 [14:06] <ferdinand> I shall show you the video
#1247 [14:06] <genshou> I think he's using boats or minecarts to right click through a lava wall
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#1249 [14:08] <sTEINHAUG> have there come a new client out today or so?
#1250 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> Yes, but not a new server.
#1251 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> genshou: ah.
#1252 [14:09] <sTEINHAUG> where can i download the new client?
#1253 [14:09] <sTEINHAUG> minecraft.net aint online
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#1255 [14:09] <ferdinand> the mechanism of teleporting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYYPpyLZ_x8&feature=related
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#1257 [14:10] <MyDreamName> Someone help me. I don't know how to join other channels when I connect to a server. :/
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#1259 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> MyDreamName: "/join #channel"
#1260 [14:12] <MyDreamName> Oh, I suspected that.
#1261 [14:12] <MyDreamName> That's how I joined this one.
#1262 [14:12] <MyDreamName> And hey, that was a three world message, Dope!
#1263 [14:12] <MyDreamName> word****
#1264 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> MyDreamName: it was also the entire message I was intending to convey.
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#1271 [14:40] <Cameron> I need halp D:
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#1273 [14:40] <Cameron> My minecraft details dont work anymore.
#1274 [14:41] <Cameron> i dont know who to ask help or where to sort it out
#1275 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> Cameron: Are you no longer able to log into the web site?
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#1278 [14:46] <mtbred> is anyone else having trouble getting minecraft to connect?
#1279 [14:55] <Destrictor> i have a different problem
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#1281 [14:55] <Destrictor> once i connect to a server my internet connection completely shuts down
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#1283 [14:55] <unfairgod> hello
#1284 [14:56] <Destrictor> i tried searching the forums for any solutions, but all i found were suggestions of updating network drivers, which i allready did
#1285 [14:56] <Destrictor> did not work
#1286 [14:56] <Destrictor> for fixing connection issue perhaps try using google public DNS
#1287 [14:57] <unfairgod> when i have mods installed i cant see my hotbar, inventory or esc menu or anything like that cane any1 help me ?
#1288 [14:57] <Destrictor> did you use modloader?
#1289 [14:57] <unfairgod> yes
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#1291 [14:58] <unfairgod> u know how to fix that?
#1292 [14:59] <Destrictor> sorry i dont use anything with modloader
#1293 [14:59] <unfairgod> oh ok thx anyway
#1294 [14:59] <Destrictor> maybe post in the modloader topic
#1295 [14:59] <unfairgod> but it does it also with the minimap mod wich doesnt use it
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#1297 [15:00] <unfairgod> ok
#1298 [15:00] <unfairgod> thx
#1299 [15:00] <unfairgod> xya
#1300 [15:00] <unfairgod> cya*
#1301 [15:00] <CorneliousJD|Work> Lapis Lazuli Ore now drops 6 - 9 Lapis Lazuli per block mined (Increased from 1).
#1302 [15:01] <CorneliousJD|Work> can somebody verify that?
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#1304 [15:01] <Drule> Anyone use HostedGameServers Minecraft hosting?
#1305 [15:01] <CorneliousJD|Work> nope, i just host my owqn
#1306 [15:01] <CorneliousJD|Work> own*
#1307 [15:02] <Drule> Alright
#1308 [15:02] <CorneliousJD|Work> I wouldn't suggest that though... seems od
#1309 [15:02] <CorneliousJD|Work> $2/user?
#1310 [15:02] <CorneliousJD|Work> meh
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#1312 [15:02] <SkiingPenguins> o.O
#1313 [15:02] <CorneliousJD|Work> "mods supported"
#1314 [15:02] <CorneliousJD|Work> bukkit isn't even ready?
#1315 [15:03] <Rasmus> Kealper: Hi again.. I'm going mental here, so that's why I've decided to format my desktop...
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#1318 [15:09] <Destrictor> can anyone say if SMP dropping whole internet connection has a fix?
#1319 [15:10] <CorneliousJD|Work> Destrictor, i've never had that issue?
#1320 [15:11] <Destrictor> lucky you =/
#1321 [15:11] <Kealper> Rasmus: nice timing, becuase i just got back lol
#1322 [15:11] <SkiingPenguins> perhaps you are saturating your connection, Destrictor
#1323 [15:11] <Destrictor> with what?
#1324 [15:11] <SkiingPenguins> with so much data
#1325 [15:11] <Kealper> probably not
#1326 [15:11] <Destrictor> definately not
#1327 [15:12] <Kealper> there is a known issue with certain network adapters
#1328 [15:12] <Destrictor> else my internet connection would drop outside of minecraft randomly aswell
#1329 [15:12] <Kealper> sometimes there is a fix, but other times.....the NIC is just too crappy to work :/
#1330 [15:12] <CorneliousJD|Work> that stinks... i never knew that was even an issue.
#1331 [15:13] <Kealper> wait.... Destrictor what exactly happens?
#1332 [15:13] <Destrictor> i've only found people posting with realtec/asteroth adapters
#1333 [15:13] <Destrictor> i have syslink (cisco) adapter
#1334 [15:13] <CorneliousJD|Work> I have a realtek adapter and i have no issues.
#1335 [15:13] <Destrictor> i can play SMP about 2~5 mins
#1336 [15:13] <Destrictor> then i get socket/connection error
#1337 [15:14] <CorneliousJD|Work> You mean you have a Linksys?
#1338 [15:14] <Destrictor> and then i cant get any internet connection anymore
#1339 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> Wasn't there an issue with XPSP3 or something that just makes LAN connections die?
#1340 [15:14] <Destrictor> whups yes linksys
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#1342 [15:14] <CorneliousJD|Work> your NIC on your PC is Linksys...?
#1343 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> ISTR something along those lines.
#1344 [15:14] <CorneliousJD|Work> or your router is Linksys?
#1345 [15:14] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: xp sp3 works fine
#1346 [15:14] <Destrictor> i have to reset adapter to get any connection again
#1347 [15:15] <Destrictor> my adapter is linksys
#1348 [15:15] <Destrictor> not my router
#1349 [15:15] <Kealper> was just rockin MC on lowest settings on a shitty computer of mine last night lol
#1350 [15:15] <Kealper> Destrictor: wanna give the potential fix a shot?
#1351 [15:15] <Destrictor> sure
#1352 [15:15] <Kealper> ok....since i suck at reading up, did you already say your os?
#1353 [15:15] <Destrictor> windows 7 x64
#1354 [15:16] <Kealper> ok then, press the windows key or click the start menu, inside the start menu search, type Device Manager
#1355 [15:16] <Kealper> press enter
#1356 [15:16] <Destrictor> Linksys WUSB300N usb adapter
#1357 [15:16] <Kealper> in the dropdown list, drop down the one called Network adapters
#1358 [15:17] <Kealper> do you see your adapter in there?
#1359 [15:17] <Destrictor> yes
#1360 [15:17] <Kealper> double click it, that will open it's proeprties
#1361 [15:17] <Destrictor> i went into properties >advanced
#1362 [15:17] <Kealper> select the Advanced tab, look for Recieve Buffers and Transmit Buffers in the Property: list
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#1364 [15:18] <Kealper> can you find them?
#1365 [15:18] <Destrictor> no such property
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#1367 [15:18] <Kealper> nothing that mentions buffers?
#1368 [15:18] <Destrictor> i'll screencap and send link
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#1370 [15:19] <Destrictor> http://tldr.me/rkatj4.png
#1371 [15:19] <franz> hello
#1372 [15:20] <Destrictor> i had found the topic with that fix before, but couldn't apply because i dont have those properties :)
#1373 [15:20] <Kealper> then i guess that shoots that in the butt -.-
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#1375 [15:22] <franz> can someone help me with my mcserver?
#1376 [15:22] <Kealper> what did you need help with?
#1377 [15:22] <franz> i need to find a way to kinda dump the map
#1378 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> franz: define 'kinda'.
#1379 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> (and for that matter, 'dump'.)
#1380 [15:23] <franz> well i want my map in one compact file and the minecraft-server.exe wont let me do that
#1381 [15:23] <MyDreamName> Do you mean backup the map?
#1382 [15:23] <MyDreamName> Oh
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#1384 [15:24] <franz> is there a way or do i need some custom client?
#1385 [15:24] <MyDreamName> Are the auth servers screwing up again?
#1386 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> Well, yes, the minecraft save file format is a sprawling swarm of files; that's just the way it is (for now).
#1387 [15:25] <mtbred> dream, I was having that same issue
#1388 [15:25] <mtbred> I changed my DNS to the google DNS
#1389 [15:25] <franz> DopeGhoti, okay thx
#1390 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> cheers
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#1392 [15:26] <mtbred> are you just having trouble connecting?
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#1395 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: have you added a !dns command yet? "Login issues can probably be solved by setting your DNS server to 8.8.8.8"
#1396 [15:27] <mtbred> :) that's what I had to just do
#1397 [15:27] <beefsugar> anyone else having problem with minecraft not updating to 1.2_02
#1398 [15:27] * Kealper uses 208.67.222.222
#1398 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: what's that? OpenDNS?
#1399 [15:28] <Kealper> yea lol
#1400 [15:29] <beefsugar> it just logs in and skips update
#1401 [15:30] <Kealper> although technically my primary dns is 192.168.1.1 lol...but secondary and tertiary are opendns's dnses
#1402 [15:32] <mbentley> could be dns caching with your isp...
#1403 [15:34] <Keegs> None of my servers are showing up on minecraft.net 's list, Running MCforge and also trying vanilla software, both are on and off with heartbeat.
#1404 [15:34] <Keegs> SOMETIMES show up, but usually not
#1405 [15:34] <mbentley> Keegs: there is no list for beta servers
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#1407 [15:35] <Keegs> creative software
#1408 [15:35] <Keegs> MCForge is creative
#1409 [15:35] <mbentley> ah
#1410 [15:35] <Keegs> :P
#1411 [15:35] <Kealper> there should be a rule to state what version of minecraft you need help with when you request help lol
#1412 [15:35] <mbentley> could be they disabled the updating of the server list when the server was being bogged down?
#1413 [15:36] <Kealper> probably
#1414 [15:36] <Keegs> Well... how are there other servers then?
#1415 [15:36] <mbentley> previously cached?
#1416 [15:36] <Keegs> :/
#1417 [15:36] <Keegs> Mine goes on and off the list
#1418 [15:37] <Keegs> Heartbeat keeps timing out
#1419 [15:37] <Keegs> but SOMETIMES works
#1420 [15:37] <Keegs> and then theres servers ALWAYS on the list
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#1423 [15:40] <Kealper> Keegs: do you know what a hosts file is?
#1424 [15:41] <Keegs> not really
#1425 [15:41] <Kealper> you're hosting from windows, right?
#1426 [15:41] <Keegs> Yes... guessing it tells ips ect
#1427 [15:41] <Keegs> or something?
#1428 [15:42] <Kealper> i could go on quite a while about the hosts file, but the reader's digest version: it resolves names to IPs before the computer checks a DNS
#1429 [15:43] <Keegs> mk
#1430 [15:43] <Kealper> and you'll also have to bear with my super slow typing right now....screwed up my space bar thumb -.-
#1431 [15:43] <Keegs> heh... sucks... nah it's fine
#1432 [15:43] <Keegs> Got lots of time
#1433 [15:43] <Kealper> anyways, go in to C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc
#1434 [15:44] <Kealper> there will be a few files in there, one of them will be called hosts, open that with notepad or whatever text editor you want
#1435 [15:44] <Keegs> mkay
#1436 [15:45] <Kealper> add two new lines to that file, at the bottom, first one should be: 184.72.233.123 minecraft.net
#1437 [15:45] <Kealper> second should be: 184.72.233.123 www.minecraft.net
#1438 [15:45] <Destrictor> you will need admin rights for writing in that map though
#1439 [15:45] <Kealper> save that, and the server *should* start sending pings to mc right
#1440 [15:45] <Keegs> Okay saved it, thanks I'll try it out
#1441 [15:46] <Kealper> if it does not solve the problem, then open that back up and take it out, because it's better to have a dns give your computer the ip to sites than to have the hosts file do it
#1442 [15:47] <Keegs> I think you gave me the old IPs xD
#1443 [15:47] <Keegs> my servers are the only ones on the list
#1444 [15:47] <Kealper> O.o
#1445 [15:47] <Kealper> damnit.....they must have moved stuff around again, beacuse that ip worked yesterday
#1446 [15:47] <Kealper> 2 sec -.-
#1447 [15:48] <Keegs> hehe
#1448 [15:49] <Keegs> made me laugh alittle :P
#1449 [15:49] <Keegs> http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9710/41090379.png
#1450 [15:49] <Kealper> hmm....site appears down for me...oh well, disregard everything i said
#1451 [15:49] <Kealper> xD
#1452 [15:49] <mbentley> i am seeing a few different ip addresses...
#1453 [15:49] <Keegs> Thanks though I think I can get the new IP from here :D
#1454 [15:50] <Kealper> mbentley: probably have minecraft.net on a round robin for that whole cloud thing now :/
#1455 [15:50] <mbentley> yeah
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#1457 [15:51] <mbentley> was able to get 184.73.249.116 to work
#1458 [15:51] <mbentley> but yeah, there are quite a few
#1459 [15:52] <Kealper> hmm...that one doesn't even work for me....imma have to crack the whip at mollstam :O
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#1461 [15:53] <mbentley> definitely looks like they changed something in dns again though
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#1463 [15:53] <beefsugar> can't download linux version of minecraft (gives 404)
#1464 [15:53] <Keegs> *sigh*
#1465 [15:53] <xolotl> beefsugar: Change the capital M to a lowercase m; they changed the case
#1466 [15:53] <xolotl> (and haven't updated links yet)
#1467 [15:54] <beefsugar> ?
#1468 [15:54] <beefsugar> capital M in what?
#1469 [15:54] <mbentley> minecraft.jar
#1470 [15:54] <xolotl> beefsugar: The URL
#1471 [15:54] <xolotl> beefsugar: Where it says "Minecraft.jar" currently
#1472 [15:54] <beefsugar> oh
#1473 [15:54] <beefsugar> ty
#1474 [15:54] <beefsugar> once websites back up
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#1476 [15:55] <beefsugar> ty it worked
#1477 [15:55] <xolotl> np
#1478 [15:56] <Kealper> how long has said website been down, anyways?
#1479 [15:57] <xolotl> Kealper: It's up, I've loaded it a few times today
#1480 [15:57] <mbentley> not coming up for me here
#1481 [15:57] <beefsugar> its keeps going up and down
#1482 [15:57] <xolotl> May be periodic problems as the clustering settles down and gets bugs ironed out or something
#1483 [15:59] <Mustashy> ;
#1484 [15:59] <Mustashy> ye, it doesn't load for me at all
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#1486 [15:59] <beefsugar> ya just keep refreshing
#1487 [15:59] <beefsugar> you'll eventually get in
#1488 [16:00] <jeff> Hey has anyone had trouble getting the giftcodes?
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#1490 [16:00] <Guest1390138885> i ordered a giftcode lastnight and still have not had it emailed
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#1493 [16:01] <Destrictor> friend bought it for me, it didn't arrive untill next morning
#1494 [16:01] <Destrictor> offcourse this was during the server migration
#1495 [16:01] <Guest1390138885> ya
#1496 [16:01] <bernard> troll me if u must, but whats the estimated down time or "Heavy Server Load"
#1497 [16:01] <Visiiri> Guest1390138885, it doesn't get emailed...
#1498 [16:01] <Guest1390138885> well lastnight i got it :P and still have not got it
#1499 [16:01] <Visiiri> click on profile
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#1501 [16:02] <Guest1390138885> really? why did it say that lastnigth
#1502 [16:02] <Visiiri> Oh, it might
#1503 [16:02] <Visiiri> when I bought a gift code last it didn't
#1504 [16:02] <beefsugar> yes finally logged back into minecraft
#1505 [16:02] <bernard> i cant get my server to stay up
#1506 [16:02] <Guest1390138885> dam this server overload sucks
#1507 [16:02] <Destrictor> i'm gonna give SMP another shot, if i drop you know what it means :P
#1508 [16:03] <bernard> how many more days will this go on?
#1509 [16:04] <Destrictor> if you're talking about having a hard time connection to minecraft.net try using google public DNS
#1510 [16:04] <bernard> im talking about getting my server to run
#1511 [16:04] <Keegs> same thing
#1512 [16:04] <bernard> im using MCMyAdmin Control Panel, the server wont launch
#1513 [16:04] <Keegs> Us MCMyadmins support..?
#1514 [16:05] <bernard> they told me its not their end
#1515 [16:05] <bernard> and that was it
#1516 [16:05] <SkiingPenguins> why dont you just use the vanilla server
#1517 [16:05] <bernard> they couldn't give me an answer because they are incompetent
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#1519 [16:05] <SkiingPenguins> try using the vanilla server to see if it's something on your end
#1520 [16:05] <mbentley> i might suggest pushing back more to them...
#1521 [16:06] <bernard> its not my end
#1522 [16:06] <smakably> some1 that got some tips of big things to build??
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#1524 [16:06] <SkiingPenguins> cannon
#1525 [16:06] <smakably> no too small
#1526 [16:06] <Destrictor> a castle?
#1527 [16:06] <Xaviergmail> !check 24.122.60.136
#1528 [16:06] <bernard> Coliseum
#1529 [16:06] <xolotl> smakably: Hollow out everything below the top layer of dirt and replace all the air above with cobbles
#1530 [16:06] <Xaviergmail> :O
#1531 [16:06] <xolotl> smakably: Keep going until you get to the edgelands
#1532 [16:07] <Xaviergmail> if i have online-mode to fof can other ppl connect to my server? :(
#1533 [16:07] <smakably> thats good
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#1535 [16:07] <bernard> Build the Sphinx
#1536 [16:07] <mbentley> smakably: a music box that plays John Cage's Organ2/ASLSP
#1537 [16:07] <smakably> sphinx??
#1538 [16:07] <bernard> yes, a sphinx
#1539 [16:07] <Destrictor> code minecraft using the minecraftputer
#1540 [16:07] <xolotl> Xaviergmail: Yes and no; people will connect, but unless their clients were able to authenticate they'll show up as the user "Player"
#1541 [16:07] <smakably> or NY 1:1 scaale
#1542 [16:08] <smakably> that wuold have been epic
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#1544 [16:08] <xolotl> Xaviergmail: And possibly you can only have one "Player" connected at a time, and inventory would not be unique, etc.
#1545 [16:08] <Destrictor> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkkyKZVzug <== do this but then better :)
#1546 [16:08] <bernard> build a replica of the white house
#1547 [16:08] <Xaviergmail> h,,
#1548 [16:08] <Xaviergmail> hmm
#1549 [16:09] <Xaviergmail> any ideas when minecraft's gonna be back up?
#1550 [16:09] <smakably> have you guys seen minas tihrit 1:1 scale
#1551 [16:09] <smakably> ??
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#1553 [16:09] <smakably> something as big as that
#1554 [16:09] <beefsugar> if you set your dns server to google the minecraft launcher works perfectly fine
#1555 [16:09] <Destrictor> maps cant go high enough for a 1:1 scale of minas tirith
#1556 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> Looks like Amazon took a crap; mc.net is down.
#1557 [16:09] <smakably> and with good
#1558 [16:09] <smakably> stert
#1559 [16:09] <beefsugar> website is still being stupid
#1560 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> (source: mojang)
#1561 [16:09] <smakably> haven´t you seen it??
#1562 [16:10] <xolotl> I made a 1:20000 scale replica of Minas Tirith with a single cobblestone; it was sweet.
#1563 [16:10] * xolotl reuses a joke from yesterday
#1563 [16:10] <smakably> eoic win
#1564 [16:10] <smakably> but some1 with ideas??
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#1566 [16:10] <smakably> i got all days on meee
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#1568 [16:10] <Xaviergmail> !check google.com:80
#1569 [16:10] <Xaviergmail> :O
#1570 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> xolotl: I preferred the 1:20000 Moria, which was three blocks- cobble, obsidian, magma.
#1571 [16:11] <smakably> in 2,5 half year then i graduta
#1572 [16:11] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: ha, nice.
#1573 [16:11] <smakably> graduate*
#1574 [16:11] <Xaviergmail> !check minecraft.net:80
#1575 [16:11] <Xaviergmail> D:
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#1577 [16:12] <Destrictor> could bot show IP when it's okay as well?
#1578 [16:13] <xolotl> Destrictor: "nslookup <name>" or "dig <name>" from your cmd/terminal/console/whatever to look up an IP
#1579 [16:13] <smakably> ipconfig in cmd
#1580 [16:13] <mbentley> the ip i was able to hit earlier isn't responding now so...
#1581 [16:13] <smakably> ipv4 i think it is..
#1582 [16:14] <smakably> here u got : http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Whatsmyip
#1583 [16:14] <xolotl> smakably: I'm pretty sure he wanted the IPs of *remote* hosts, not his own.
#1584 [16:15] <smakably> remote??
#1585 [16:15] <smakably> Hosts?
#1586 [16:15] <Keegs> not?
#1587 [16:15] <NinjaKirby> taw
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#1590 [16:17] <Destrictor> lol i know of a simple way, i'm just too lazy to start up another program :)
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#1593 [16:18] <Beharede> I have to questions
#1594 [16:18] <Destrictor> cmd >> ping <site>
#1595 [16:18] <Beharede> One: What's the difference between 16x16 and 128x128 packs for example?
#1596 [16:18] <SkiingPenguins> 16x16 is of lower detail
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#1598 [16:19] <smakably> Destrictor: Last thing i builded was u´re mum that took like a half year and 200000 blocks to get her 1:1 scale
#1599 [16:19] <beefsugar> great now can'
#1600 [16:19] <beefsugar> can't get in at all
#1601 [16:20] <xales> Yes, Amazon is having issues. Gotta wait for that to be fixed
#1602 [16:20] <beefsugar> yep
#1603 [16:20] <Destrictor> why oh why did he pick amazon >.<
#1604 [16:20] <Destrictor> plenty of decent hosts out there
#1605 [16:20] <Drule> I can't connect to minecraft.net
#1606 [16:20] <Drule> What's wrong?
#1607 [16:21] <beefsugar> its down
#1608 [16:21] <Drule> Ugh
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#1610 [16:21] <xales> He is using Amazon because it allows him to add more hosts faster than most other providers
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#1612 [16:21] <InB> Probably asked a thousand times but any guess as to when servers will be back up?
#1613 [16:21] <xales> 3 mouse clicks -> type in 15 -> 5 minutes later, 15 more nodes are online and being load-balanced
#1614 [16:21] <Beharede> Ah, how do change the number?
#1615 [16:22] <Beharede> On 16x16
#1616 [16:22] <xales> InB: Unfortunately, no. This time it is a problem with Amazon
#1617 [16:22] <xales> Beharede: You can't make a smaller texture bigger
#1618 [16:22] <InB> Ok thanks :)
#1619 [16:22] <Beharede> But if I start editing a 128x128-pack, It will get that back?
#1620 [16:22] <Beharede> big*
#1621 [16:22] <Beharede> get that big
#1622 [16:22] <xales> Beharede: Yes, if you edit a 128x128 pack.
#1623 [16:23] <xales> Anyway, I have to go
#1624 [16:23] * xales leaves
#1624 [16:23] <Beharede> And what's the original pack?
#1625 [16:23] <Beharede> 16 too?
#1626 [16:23] <xales> Yes, 16
#1627 [16:23] * xales goes for real now. Bye!
#1627 [16:23] <Destrictor> making your own takes pretty long
#1628 [16:24] <Beharede> Byes
#1629 [16:24] <Destrictor> 128x128 pixels per item
#1630 [16:24] <Beharede> How can you put more than 6 pictures in a thread?
#1631 [16:24] <Beharede> like this one http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=97561
#1632 [16:24] <Beharede> in one post
#1633 [16:24] <TheReddeH> be awesome
#1634 [16:26] <Beharede> Tried that
#1635 [16:26] <Beharede> Didn't work
#1636 [16:30] <Roenie> mc.net is down again
#1637 [16:30] <Drule> God damn it, I'm so fucking tired of MC being down. The ONE DAY I get some time off work to play games it decides to crash
#1638 [16:30] <Beharede> Can you have more than 6 pictures in a post?
#1639 [16:30] * Roenie has a diablo 2 battle.net flashback
#1639 [16:31] <Roenie> me 2 Drule
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#1644 [16:36] <NinjaKirby> Yeeees, Bless Notch for the Stone Tool usage change~
#1645 [16:37] <elias79> Is the main login server offline ?
#1646 [16:37] <NinjaKirby> Apparently it's hit and miss, I've been logged in ages now, but I got in hours ago with one try
#1647 [16:37] <elias79> aw ..
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#1652 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> xales: So how long before there are instanced load balancers? :p
#1653 [16:54] <Kealper> lol
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#1655 [16:55] <MyDreamName> WHAAAAAT
#1656 [16:55] <MyDreamName> There's a forest fire in my newly generated world in singleplayer. :(
#1657 [16:55] <MyDreamName> Whyyyyy
#1658 [16:56] <Arronicus> test
#1659 [16:56] <Arronicus> ah, it let me talk
#1660 [16:56] <Arronicus> mydreamname, theres a HUGE fire going on one of my worlds, and you wanna know the funny part?
#1661 [16:57] <Arronicus> Animals are running by trees and lighting on fire, and lighting other trees on fire as a result.
#1662 [16:57] <MyDreamName> :/
#1663 [16:57] <MyDreamName> I'm gonna see if there's lava on the surface or something.
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#1665 [16:58] <fork> wow
#1666 [16:58] <fork> kinect for minecraft
#1667 [16:59] <Whyku> Can I have some help with the new luncher?
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#1669 [16:59] <ArmEagle> NinjaKirby stone tool change?
#1670 [16:59] <MyDreamName> I don't see any lava, jeez
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#1673 [16:59] <Whyku> I want too download it but minecraft is down....
#1674 [16:59] <NinjaKirby> ArmEagle: Extended Usage count
#1675 [16:59] <ArmEagle> ah nice
#1676 [16:59] <Whyku> Can I have some help?
#1677 [17:00] <NinjaKirby> Seriously, is anyone else experiencing detrminetal performance spikes? I understand the last patch was Skin related, but dayum, it's coinciding
#1678 [17:00] <NinjaKirby> *Detrimental, christ
#1679 [17:00] <fork> http://kotaku.com/5740089/kinect-for-minecraft-just-got-more-impressive
#1680 [17:01] <Whyku> Or not....
#1681 [17:01] <NinjaKirby> What's wrong Whyku?
#1682 [17:01] <Whyku> Anyway you can uploud a copy of the new minecraft luncher minecraft it down...
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#1684 [17:01] <NinjaKirby> ... taw
#1685 [17:02] <Whyku> What?
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#1687 [17:03] <Arronicus> Anyone know what the maintenance is for?
#1688 [17:03] <NinjaKirby> Am I being troll'd, heh
#1689 [17:03] <Whyku> All I want is too get the new minecraft luncher.....
#1690 [17:04] <NinjaKirby> Ah right, just the previous sentence didn't make any sense to me, sorry ~_~
#1691 [17:05] <NinjaKirby> "new Minecraft luncher minecraft it down", just to highlight
#1692 [17:05] <Whyku> I am not the best at english...
#1693 [17:05] <SkiingPenguins> Arronicus: the servers are being upgraded
#1694 [17:05] <NinjaKirby> Ah, fair enough then
#1695 [17:05] <Whyku> Because Minecraft.net is down so i can't get it off there.
#1696 [17:06] <Whyku> So any help?
#1697 [17:07] <Kealper> we're all in the same boat
#1698 [17:07] <Roenie> Titanic.
#1699 [17:07] <Whyku> No one got it before the site got down.....and no one can uploud it it!! ARG!
#1700 [17:07] <NinjaKirby> lol Roenie
#1701 [17:07] <DopeGhoti> Whyku: There's a reason the program says "do not distribute".
#1702 [17:08] <Whyku> I know.....
#1703 [17:08] <Whyku> They need like a backup site! :D
#1704 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> They have one
#1705 [17:08] <Whyku> Minecraft.org
#1706 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> several in fact
#1707 [17:08] <Whyku> What?
#1708 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> it's the load balancer that exploded
#1709 [17:08] <Whyku> WHAT?
#1710 [17:09] <Whyku> Does the other sites have the download?
#1711 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> the other sites are also minecraft.net
#1712 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> and they're behind the exploded load balancer
#1713 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> Way to make a first impression, Amazon, amirite?
#1714 [17:10] <SkiingPenguins> yes, to million people :P
#1715 [17:10] <Whyku> Well I am going too go write a mad email too him
#1716 [17:10] <Kealper> that's nice
#1717 [17:10] <Kealper> FUUU
#1718 [17:10] <SkiingPenguins> that'll help a lot
#1719 [17:12] <Destrictor> i actually lol'd there
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#1724 [17:17] <Rasmus> Kealper: Me again! Mission accomplished after formatting my desktop!!
#1725 [17:18] <SkiingPenguins> uh you reformatted the disk?
#1726 [17:18] <Kealper> O.o
#1727 [17:18] <Kealper> grats on fixing it, but that was more drastic than i was about to suggest lol
#1728 [17:18] <genshou> Wow. Did the biome generator get a massive overhaul?
#1729 [17:18] <genshou> I'm getting some freaking awesome terrain in new worlds
#1730 [17:19] <Roenie> I can't remove any blocks in off-line mode on my server
#1731 [17:20] <Roenie> is that a new security feature or something?
#1732 [17:20] <Rasmus> Kealper: very drastic, but had to make it work! :)
#1733 [17:20] <Rasmus> well, reboot ahead, a LOT of windows updates :S
#1734 [17:20] <Kealper> :/
#1735 [17:20] <Rasmus> see you! :) just wanted to say that I made it work :)
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#1737 [17:20] <Kealper> Roenie: move away from spawn?
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#1739 [17:21] <Kealper> cya Rasmus lol
#1740 [17:21] <Burnskagen> I minecraft.net down for you guys as well?
#1741 [17:21] <Snackish> Hey how do i walk to the edge of the block without falling off
#1742 [17:21] <Burnskagen> shift
#1743 [17:21] <Snackish> there's a way you can go to the edge of a block without falling
#1744 [17:21] <SkiingPenguins> press shift like he said
#1745 [17:21] <Snackish> Oh.
#1746 [17:22] <Snackish> ty
#1747 [17:22] <Steve[cug]> Burnskagen: yes
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#1750 [17:24] <baffle> Oh, it's alive again.
#1751 [17:29] <Burnskagen> I think it had an update
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#1754 [17:29] <Alreko1> What is going on with Redstone?
#1755 [17:31] <Burnskagen> Liek A biG bOi nao!
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#1759 [17:35] <Greel> why hallo thar, i was wondering if i could get some help
#1760 [17:36] <lemon-rev> if its about loggin in we know the trouble lol
#1761 [17:36] <Greel> my problem is when i try to connect to my friends sever it says i'm not a premium member, i just bought the game a few days ago
#1762 [17:36] <Greel> says "login failed: user not premium"
#1763 [17:36] <lemon-rev> so whats your user name you are useing to log in ?
#1764 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> What is your account name, Geerie?
#1765 [17:36] <Geerie> Geerie
#1766 [17:36] <lemon-rev> lol
#1767 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> !paid Geerie
#1768 [17:37] <Geerie> i did a few days ago
#1769 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> Are you able to log into the web site?
#1770 [17:37] <Geerie> yes
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#1772 [17:37] <Drule> I can't get my server to listen to server.properties
#1773 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> Does the red 'buy now' thing still appear when you're logged in?
#1774 [17:37] <Drule> None of the options I've set work in-game
#1775 [17:37] <Geerie> let me check again
#1776 [17:38] <Geerie> no it does not
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#1778 [17:38] <PommesGabel> Hallo (:
#1779 [17:40] <Geerie> i purchased it january 15th 17:33
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#1781 [17:43] <lemon-rev> minecraft.net is haveing trouble atm it could be that factor thats into account
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#1783 [17:44] <Geerie> is that directed at me?
#1784 [17:44] <Alreko13> When did Redstone torches began to burn out ? : (
#1785 [17:44] <lemon-rev> i suppose so yea m, geerie untill its back up and working 100% we wont know why its misbehaving
#1786 [17:45] <Kealper> Alreko13: they always have if they are turned on and off too fast
#1787 [17:46] <Geerie> do you have an estimation of when it will be fixed?
#1788 [17:46] <lemon-rev> when amazon gets its shit together and when site and minecraft is 100% moved from where it is now
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#1790 [17:46] <lemon-rev> geerie look for world of notch from google
#1791 [17:46] <Geerie> they didn't give you a time?
#1792 [17:46] <Geerie> that sucks
#1793 [17:47] <Geerie> i've been following his twitter
#1794 [17:47] <lemon-rev> ok then
#1795 [17:47] <lemon-rev> its just a matter of waiting it out atm
#1796 [17:48] <Geerie> damn
#1797 [17:48] <Geerie> i had to focused on class all week and looked forward to building my castle, now i can't even play
#1798 [17:49] <lemon-rev> i hope it will be resolved shortly dude but yea i know wat you mean
#1799 [17:49] <SkiingPenguins> yea? well i have an exam tomorrow -_-
#1800 [17:49] <Geerie> shit happens i guess
#1801 [17:49] <Geerie> thanks for looking into the problem
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#1805 [17:58] <natt1511> hello i need some help
#1806 [17:58] <SkiingPenguins> with?
#1807 [17:58] <natt1511> multiplayer
#1808 [17:58] <SkiingPenguins> is it not working?
#1809 [17:58] <natt1511> no it works here ill tell you
#1810 [17:59] <natt1511> my friends and i have a server, but they abondoned me and I need to find them, but I don't know where they went
#1811 [17:59] <natt1511> im not the admin
#1812 [18:00] <natt1511> hello
#1813 [18:00] <SkiingPenguins> we then there's little you could do, besides build a compass or kill yourself
#1814 [18:01] <natt1511> well theyre not by the spawn
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#1816 [18:03] <elias79> can someone send me the newest minecraft.jar for linux ?
#1817 [18:03] <xales> can't you download it yourself?
#1818 [18:04] <elias79> nope its offline
#1819 [18:04] <elias79> Oops! This link appears to be broken.
#1820 [18:05] <xales> It worked for me =/
#1821 [18:05] <SkiingPenguins> http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.jar?v=1295651112998 <- ?
#1822 [18:05] <elias79> dont work
#1823 [18:06] <SkiingPenguins> try clearing your dns cache
#1824 [18:06] <elias79> oh
#1825 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> elias79: set your DNS server to 8.8.8.8
#1826 [18:06] <SkiingPenguins> yes google's dns is good
#1827 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> Also, don't ask people who aren't Mojang to send you Minecraft. It says "Do not distribute" for a reason.
#1828 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: Google's DNS IPs are also easier for me to remember than OpenDNS's :)
#1829 [18:08] <izzd> got a bad bug with the work bench, made 3 picks and 2 vanished :/
#1830 [18:08] <xales> DopeGhoti: 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220
#1831 [18:09] <izzd> i took 1 pick out of the bench and left 2 in it and they disapeared
#1832 [18:09] <elias79> 404 Not Found
#1833 [18:09] <elias79> Resin/4.0.14
#1834 [18:09] <xales> !client
#1835 [18:09] <izzd> the materials vanished aswell
#1836 [18:09] <xales> try that?
#1837 [18:10] <SkiingPenguins> izzd: your materials were "thrown" infront of you when you exited the GUI
#1838 [18:10] <elias79> Minecraft.jar was not found on this server.
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#1840 [18:10] <xales> Clear DNS cache
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#1842 [18:10] <sickmyduck> hello
#1843 [18:10] <sickmyduck> i am having a problem with my client
#1844 [18:11] <sickmyduck> i press login and a black screen pops up
#1845 [18:11] <izzd> i know they get thrown if u leave them in the bench but not this time
#1846 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> sickmyduck: stop closing your eyes when you press 'enter'? ;)
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#1848 [18:11] <BurnZeZ> DopeGhoti: +1
#1849 [18:11] <sickmyduck> no srs how do i fix it
#1850 [18:12] <BurnZeZ> Irvine sucks.
#1851 [18:13] <izzd> it's done it again :/
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#1853 [18:13] <xales> sickmyduck: What version are you trying to play - classic or beta?
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#1855 [18:14] <barbo> Hey guys, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask but I tried downloading Minecraft.jar after purchasing and it's giving me a 404
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#1857 [18:14] <SkiingPenguins> server is having issues, try again later
#1858 [18:14] <barbo> thanks
#1859 [18:16] <ArmEagle> hmm, do flaming arrows (dispenser + lava) actually set stuff on fire. They don't seem to hurt me when I walk over it once it landed
#1860 [18:16] <izzd> I'm on a server with mods so that could be the problem
#1861 [18:16] * ArmEagle sneakily insterts a ?
#1861 [18:17] <xales> ArmEagle: I don't think so
#1862 [18:17] <ArmEagle> hmm, maybe we should start with a blank slate.. the trees here look weird, with 3-4 different leave types/colors on one tree
#1863 [18:19] <ArmEagle> ah indeed, the wiki says they don't do more damage or set anything on fire, thanks!
#1864 [18:20] * Roenie has 289 iron
#1864 [18:21] * Roenie has 50 diamond
#1864 [18:21] * Roenie is getting somewhere
#1864 [18:24] * DopeGhoti is trying to think of how much iron has been used on the monorail so far
#1864 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> (on my server, that is)
#1865 [18:28] <barbo> fyi, the 404 was caused by an uppercase Minecraft.jar when instead it should be minecraft.jar in case anyone else has that trouble
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#1868 [18:34] <pbc2> I need help as to why i cant loginto minecraft
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#1870 [18:34] <lemon-rev> no you dont, you just need to know that its haveing trouble atm with migration and you just have to wait it out
#1871 [18:34] <LADdian> *kuchs* I'm trying to find something about upcoming development in minecraft, any ideas where to lurk more?
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#1873 [18:34] <youaresohistory> hey guys
#1874 [18:35] <pbc2> but i cannont login on the website either
#1875 [18:35] <pbc2> and my friends can login
#1876 [18:35] <Kealper> !website
#1877 [18:35] <pbc2> i mean wth
#1878 [18:36] <youaresohistory> I need some help: How can I join a specific private server? I know the IP adress and the owner has allowed me to join.
#1879 [18:36] <pbc2> enter the ip address in?
#1880 [18:36] <lemon-rev> so whats the trouble youraresohistory
#1881 [18:36] <youaresohistory> where do I enter it?
#1882 [18:36] <zampa> Minecraft has its over server right? That you can connect to? How many people is it there usually?
#1883 [18:36] <youaresohistory> where do I enter the IP adress? =S
#1884 [18:36] <zampa> And since the world can be infinite big, is there really any chance ill meet any other player? :>
#1885 [18:36] <pbc2> in multiplayer
#1886 [18:36] <lemon-rev> zampa no, only for classic you can find servers on it
#1887 [18:37] <zampa> Aah, I see.
#1888 [18:37] <LADdian> any ideas on where to find planned development?
#1889 [18:37] <pbc2> i thought the servers was already migrated?
#1890 [18:37] <lemon-rev> pbc2 there having trouble atm,
#1891 [18:38] <youaresohistory> lemon-rev, where do I enter the IP address of the server I want to join?
#1892 [18:38] <lemon-rev> hm
#1893 [18:38] <pbc2> like what kinds of trouble? just wondering
#1894 [18:38] <lemon-rev> if you can find muliplayer in your beta mc
#1895 [18:38] <zampa> youaresohistory: if you click multiplayer it should come up a box where you can fill it in.
#1896 [18:38] <lemon-rev> theres a blank box
#1897 [18:38] <Senillis> does anyone know when the linux client will be available again?
#1898 [18:38] <pbc2> u can play minecraft in linux....
#1899 [18:39] <pbc2> u gota run it thru console
#1900 [18:39] <Kealper> Senillis: copy the link for that, and change the Minecraft.jar to minecraft.jar
#1901 [18:39] <Senillis> ah
#1902 [18:39] <youaresohistory> zampa, when I click multiplayer, I just get a long list of servers but I can't see a box
#1903 [18:39] <lemon-rev> hm
#1904 [18:39] <youaresohistory> it is a pop-up?
#1905 [18:39] <zampa> youaresohistory: sounds like you have classic version? I dunno, for me its a box...
#1906 [18:39] <pbc2> zampa are u talking about classic or beta?
#1907 [18:39] <lemon-rev> youaresohistory are you playing classic ?
#1908 [18:39] <zampa> I'm talking about beta.
#1909 [18:39] <youaresohistory> I think I have beta =S
#1910 [18:40] <lemon-rev> hm
#1911 [18:40] <pbc2> if u have beta youll know
#1912 [18:40] <lemon-rev> it doesnt sound liek it
#1913 [18:40] <lemon-rev> like it*
#1914 [18:40] <youaresohistory> hmmmm
#1915 [18:40] <pbc2> put it like this, did u pay for the game or no
#1916 [18:40] <lemon-rev> classic you already have pre blocks in your bar
#1917 [18:40] <youaresohistory> ohhhh
#1918 [18:40] <youaresohistory> Thanks a lot guys!)
#1919 [18:40] <lemon-rev> beta you have to do your own making of things
#1920 [18:40] <youaresohistory> =)
#1921 [18:40] <youaresohistory> Found it, ^_^
#1922 [18:40] <zampa> I actually prefer beta any day of the week.
#1923 [18:41] <pbc2> yup beta is ftw
#1924 [18:41] <pbc2> BUT THE DOWNTIME IS FTL
#1925 [18:41] <zampa> Makes you actually have to work for stuff. :>
#1926 [18:41] <zampa> I cant say I am much for building things really.
#1927 [18:41] <zampa> But I support teh game, and its a great idea.
#1928 [18:41] <lemon-rev> zampa then dig
#1929 [18:41] <lemon-rev> lol
#1930 [18:42] <zampa> I'd like to see how it evolves.
#1931 [18:42] <lemon-rev> find minds and monsters and survive
#1932 [18:42] <lemon-rev> lol
#1933 [18:42] <zampa> Yeah I got myself gold armor now and weapon.
#1934 [18:42] <pbc2> its funner if u play with friends
#1935 [18:42] <pbc2> imo
#1936 [18:42] <zampa> have not yet enough dimmonds.
#1937 [18:42] <Senillis> Iron armor is better
#1938 [18:42] <zampa> really? o.O
#1939 [18:42] <Senillis> as are iron weapons.
#1940 [18:42] <zampa> thought it were iron -> gold -> diamond
#1941 [18:42] <zampa> as in the rarity
#1942 [18:42] <pbc2> it is?
#1943 [18:42] <Senillis> I kill stuff faster with iron weapons.
#1944 [18:43] <zampa> could just check the wiki for it
#1945 [18:43] <Senillis> a zombie takes me like 3 swings of an iron sword to kill, double that with gold
#1946 [18:43] <pbc2> gold sucks
#1947 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> gold sucks for everything
#1948 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> it's no better than wood and just as durable
#1949 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> it's only use is decoratorative
#1950 [18:43] <Senillis> ^
#1951 [18:43] <Kealper> golden apples?
#1952 [18:43] <izzd> gold is super fast for trees but lasts 2secs
#1953 [18:43] <lemon-rev> dopeghoti or making watch :P
#1954 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> the only practical purpose for gold is watches.
#1955 [18:44] * DopeGhoti uses saplings to take down trees because he enjoys the symbolism.
#1955 [18:45] <izzd> u would kill the sapling irl
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#1957 [18:47] <pbc2> o m f g
#1958 [18:47] <pbc2> i still cant login kfl;da
#1959 [18:47] <Kealper> neither can anyone else
#1960 [18:47] <lemon-rev> im loged in but i suppose i was lucky
#1961 [18:47] <lemon-rev> and i got a small update but i dont think its kinda stable
#1962 [18:48] <pbc2> i have 3 pp loged into my serrver
#1963 [18:48] <pbc2> said they had no trouble
#1964 [18:48] <pbc2> all i get is login faield
#1965 [18:48] <pbc2> cannot play unless been loged into once
#1966 [18:48] <pbc2> or sumtin like that
#1967 [18:48] <Kealper> huh?
#1968 [18:48] <pbc2> ill screen shot it
#1969 [18:50] <pbc2> http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3029/64857432.png
#1970 [18:50] <Kealper> so keep trying to log in...
#1971 [18:50] <pbc2> i am
#1972 [18:50] <pbc2> i keep gettin the same thing
#1973 [18:50] <pbc2> ;|
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#1976 [18:53] <HELP> PLEASE HELP ME
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#1978 [18:53] <HELP> WHERE CAN I CONTACT NOTCH
#1979 [18:53] <HELP> I LOST MY ACCOUNT
#1980 [18:53] <Kealper> WHY?
#1981 [18:53] <HELP> I CANT GET I BACK
#1982 [18:53] <Kealper> EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY YOU LOST IT
#1983 [18:54] <HELP> Well
#1984 [18:54] <HELP> One tme
#1985 [18:54] <HELP> i had an acc
#1986 [18:54] <HELP> with a pass i remember
#1987 [18:54] <Guest1390138891> but it got guessed
#1988 [18:54] <Guest1390138891> so
#1989 [18:54] <Guest1390138891> this time
#1990 [18:54] <Guest1390138891> i used a pass
#1991 [18:54] <Guest1390138891> with numbers and letters
#1992 [18:54] <Guest1390138891> i had on my laptop
#1993 [18:54] <Guest1390138891> but it crashed a week ago
#1994 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> please, Please, PLEASE stop pressing Enter so often!
#1995 [18:54] <Guest1390138891> and its password o nthere got lost!!!
#1996 [18:54] <Guest1390138891> please help me
#1997 [18:54] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#1998 [18:55] <pbc2> retrieve password?
#1999 [18:55] <Guest1390138891> no
#2000 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> If you still have your email address, go ^ there
#2001 [18:55] <Guest1390138891> its not that
#2002 [18:55] <Guest1390138891> my email pass was letters/numbers too
#2003 [18:55] <Kealper> "Shit outta luck."
#2004 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> Contact your ISP to get your email password reset then
#2005 [18:55] <Guest1390138891> please help ill tell u my username, my islands, what they look like
#2006 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> there's no way we can help you with your email account
#2007 [18:55] <Guest1390138891> they wont believe me .
#2008 [18:55] <Guest1390138891> SO
#2009 [18:55] <Guest1390138891> I LOST MINECRAFT
#2010 [18:55] <pbc2> your isp wont believe you
#2011 [18:55] <pbc2> lol
#2012 [18:55] <Guest1390138891> no its true
#2013 [18:56] <pbc2> i bet it is
#2014 [18:56] <Guest1390138891> are ubeing sracastic
#2015 [18:56] <Guest1390138891> please
#2016 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> first: stop shouting; second: stop pressing Enter constantly; third: if it's your ISP, they do password resets all day, every day. Just call them.
#2017 [18:56] <Guest1390138891> no bro
#2018 [18:57] <Kealper> fourth: this really sounds like you are trying to hack your friend's account or something, so you will not b egetting any help from me..
#2019 [18:57] <Kealper> be getting*
#2020 [18:57] <Guest1390138891> its not that, my password got l
#2021 [18:57] <Guest1390138891> :(
#2022 [18:57] <Guest1390138891> how can i get u to trust me
#2023 [18:57] <Kealper> it wouldn't matter, we can't help you
#2024 [18:57] <Guest1390138891> anything i can answer.... ill try :( please plase
#2025 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> Guest1390138891: your email password? the password for your email account? _YOUR_ email account? _call the provider_.
#2026 [18:58] <Guest1390138891> hmm.
#2027 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> "Hi, I'm the dude that pays the bills for ilostmypassword@example.com; can I get my password reset please?"
#2028 [18:58] <Guest1390138891> never knew that.
#2029 [18:58] <zampa> DopeGhoti: that would sadly not help.
#2030 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> zampa: come again?
#2031 [18:58] <zampa> Since as far as I can tell Guest1390138891 had the same password for the email and the minecraft account.
#2032 [18:58] <Guest1390138891> it wouldnt?
#2033 [18:58] <Guest1390138891> so ur telling me i have t obu minecraft agan
#2034 [18:58] <zampa> So simply reseting teh password for the email wount not change the minecraft password.
#2035 [18:58] <Guest1390138891> no
#2036 [18:58] <Guest1390138891> i didnt
#2037 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> zampa: but then he would have access to his email, which he could use to arrange to get the MC password reset.
#2038 [18:59] <Guest1390138891> its a different
#2039 [18:59] <zampa> DopeGhoti: Very true. Why did I not think of that.
#2040 [18:59] <Guest1390138891> listen if i can login to the email its jackpot
#2041 [18:59] <zampa> DopeGhoti: I'm sorry I should have been quiet.
#2042 [18:59] <Senillis> first, reset your email password, then once that's taken care of, follow the steps to get your minecraft password reset, dunce.
#2043 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> zampa: no worries.
#2044 [18:59] <Guest1390138891> ill be able to reset on password reset page i already entered my email so all i need is email pass
#2045 [18:59] <Guest1390138891> sorry
#2046 [18:59] <zampa> Guest1390138891: then contact you ISP-provider if you use their email.
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#2048 [19:00] <Guest1390138891> their email?
#2049 [19:00] <pbc2> im starting to think my account was hacked
#2050 [19:00] <pbc2> D:
#2051 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> Guest1390138891: do you use the email address provided by your Internet service provider?
#2052 [19:01] <Guest1390138891> ...
#2053 [19:01] <Guest1390138891> no......
#2054 [19:01] <zampa> Guest1390138891: what i ment with if you had say "ispprovider.com"
#2055 [19:01] <Guest1390138891> well
#2056 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> what is the domain of your email account?
#2057 [19:01] <zampa> and the email adress "mymail@ispprovider.com" you could mail hem.
#2058 [19:01] <Guest1390138891> no, i used gmail
#2059 [19:01] <Guest1390138891> so its lost right
#2060 [19:01] <Guest1390138891> im screwed?
#2061 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> not remotely
#2062 [19:01] <Guest1390138891> any other way?
#2063 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> gmail's password reset is perfectly straightforard
#2064 [19:01] <zampa> then use the retrieval password for your gmail account.
#2065 [19:01] <Guest1390138891> i tried.
#2066 [19:02] <zampa> Guest1390138891: if you lost that too, then you are in quite a bit of trouble.
#2067 [19:02] <pbc2> contact notch > show paypal proof ??? profit?
#2068 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> go to gmail.com, click 'I'm an idiot and lost my password, please SMS a reset code to my phone'
#2069 [19:02] <zampa> DopeGhoti: That's a lie!
#2070 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> you did attach a mobile number to your gmail account for this purpose, right? Or an alternate email address?
#2071 [19:02] <Guest1390138891> pbc2 tried that, he isnt answering
#2072 [19:02] <zampa> There is no such thing to click!
#2073 [19:02] <Guest1390138891> nope. yeah im in a bunch of crap...
#2074 [19:03] <Guest1390138891> guess ill have to buy another minecraft :
#2075 [19:03] <Guest1390138891> :(
#2076 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> https://www.google.com/accounts/recovery?continue=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3Dhtml%26zy%3Dl&service=mail<mpl=default
#2077 [19:03] <Guest1390138891> Dude
#2078 [19:03] <Guest1390138891> im telling u
#2079 [19:03] <Guest1390138891> i tried that
#2080 [19:04] <zampa> do you like to hit enter every three words? :>
#2081 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> And what happened when you tried? And if you keep flooding the channel, you will be /ignored and not pitied.
#2082 [19:04] * Senillis doesn't pity him now. >.>
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#2083 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> (also, props for capitalizing 'dude' but not 'I'.)
#2084 [19:04] <Eviltwin> join #mcchatter
#2085 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> Eviltwin: No.
#2086 [19:05] <Eviltwin> Missed a /, sorry
#2087 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> np :)
#2088 [19:05] <Guest1390138891> Oh, what they said was "Sorry but according to the info provided this isnt your account", and well but I answered everything apart from apssword correctly cause i dont have pass, got lost with password, remember?
#2089 [19:05] <zampa> I mean it's perfectly fine to write a longer sentence like this, for example this sencence, I had no need to press enter 3 or 15 times by this point as you usually would have done. But then again I'm already stating something that DopeGhoti and Kealper already said so...
#2090 [19:05] <zampa> I'll just go quiet.
#2091 [19:05] <Eviltwin> Is there an official Minecraft Beta server list?
#2092 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> Guest1390138891: well, if you can't recall the password recovery information, there's not much that we can do for you. Keep better track of your passwords next time.
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#2094 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> Eviltwin: No, there is not.
#2095 [19:06] <Guest1390138891> But what if I tried to get notch's attention? Would he believe me or probabl no?
#2096 [19:07] <Eviltwin> Any good way to publicize a server?
#2097 [19:07] <zampa> Most likely he would not.
#2098 [19:07] <zampa> But then again, I am not Notch so.
#2099 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> Guest1390138891: without being able to provide the proof of purchase, not really. However, you can add a new email account to your PayPal account (you DO still have that password, right?), and get the confirmation code that way.
#2100 [19:07] <lemon-rev> guest139 onlything you might beable to do is tell notch your email and user name and possible get him to send you an email to a new email that you create
#2101 [19:07] <Guest1390138891> Awww, unfrotunatley I did not get of paypal, i used prizerebel.com.....
#2102 [19:08] <zampa> Guest1390138891: Can you obtain a receit of your purchase?
#2103 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> I have never heard of that site.
#2104 [19:08] <Guest1390138891> I dont think they provide it?
#2105 [19:08] <Guest1390138891> prizerebel.com go there
#2106 [19:08] <zampa> Guest1390138891: Log in and check, you should most likely be able to see a list of your past transactions and purchases.
#2107 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> yes, I'll surely go to sketchy-sounding random sites given me on IRC by someone who lost all his passwords. Brilliant idea.
#2108 [19:09] <zampa> DopeGhoti: Word.
#2109 [19:09] <Guest1390138891> Okay, this is emberassing, but pb recommended a scrambled password so i got one. same story...
#2110 [19:10] <zampa> Yes, I really do recommend a scrambled password.
#2111 [19:10] <zampa> Then I memorize it by the second use of it. :>
#2112 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> I'm curious, do you also go to K-Mart to complain that the widget you bought at Wal-Mart isn't working anymore?
#2113 [19:10] <Guest1390138891> dude
#2114 [19:10] <zampa> No need to be like that DopeGhoti.
#2115 [19:10] <Guest1390138891> what is your problem about me losing my account...
#2116 [19:11] <zampa> I actually do trust him, yet it sound sketchy.
#2117 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> Gmail reminds you _constantly_ to set up recovery information if you hacen't got any set up.
#2118 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> If you didn't do so, it's no one's fault but your own.
#2119 [19:11] <zampa> DopeGhoti: Sadly quite a few people out there ignore it.
#2120 [19:12] <zampa> Guest1390138891: can you log into that site you used to pay for Minecraft? And see if you can get a list of your past transactions?
#2121 [19:12] <Guest1390138891> Read my other post up there
#2122 [19:12] <zampa> you said
#2123 [19:12] <zampa> I dont _THINK_ they provide it.
#2124 [19:12] <zampa> So go find out.
#2125 [19:13] <Guest1390138891> no
#2126 [19:13] <feenyx> Let me simplify: No receipt, no dice. It works just like in any other store. If you don't have proof of purchase, there's really not much anyone can do.
#2127 [19:13] <Guest1390138891> scrambled pass one. written down on laptop. crashed with mc pass. if i had it i wouldnt be here. so i guess im screwed.....
#2128 [19:15] <Guest1390138891> WAIT
#2129 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> while 02dd8e74a77d7a700c0db14e6afce7dc is a secure password (for example), it's better to use one that's memorable, yet still uses several character types. Take my nick, for example. DopeGhoti could become d0p@6#0t|, and it's still memorable, and hard to guess.
#2130 [19:15] <Guest1390138891> MY PRIZE REBEL ACCOUNT I SET UP ANOTheR RECOVERY EMAIL
#2131 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> (at least it's clear he's not actually using caplock, but is actually taking the effort to hold down the shift key to shout at us)
#2132 [19:17] <Kealper> ok back
#2133 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> welcome back.
#2134 [19:17] <Guest1390138891> seriously...
#2135 [19:17] <Guest1390138891> stop being a jerk.
#2136 [19:17] <Kealper> do i need to swing hammers around? or are you all having fun?
#2137 [19:17] <Guest1390138891> hes being mean. :(
#2138 [19:18] <Kealper> if this is still about that email that you forgot the password to....he's not being mean at all
#2139 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> mean? I'm trying to help you, as well as giving advice on how to have your password not guessable, yet still memorable. I"m helping here :p
#2140 [19:18] <Guest1390138891> no dude
#2141 [19:18] <Guest1390138891> i found a way
#2142 [19:18] <Guest1390138891> on my prizerebel email i had recovery option
#2143 [19:18] <Guest1390138891> so ill login to there
#2144 [19:18] <Kealper> type in complete sentences, too
#2145 [19:18] <Guest1390138891> find the membershio code ID
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#2147 [19:18] <Guest1390138891> whoops sorry, but then ill gather the purchase date, code ID, and paypal order number, and ill try to get it by that, is it possible?
#2148 [19:19] <zampa> Kealper: Yes you do.
#2149 [19:19] <zampa> Swing the hammer at me!
#2150 [19:19] <zampa> No wait...
#2151 [19:19] <Kealper> lol
#2152 [19:20] <Kealper> no, seriously, if anyone is ever disturbing the peace, i'm usually just a hilight or a query away....
#2153 [19:20] <xales> Kealper
#2154 [19:20] <lemon-rev> finnally got grass to grow on top of my inbuilt regroth centre of trees but its wired as hell watching grass take over soil that hasnt had grass on ti lol
#2155 [19:20] <xales> Kealper
#2156 [19:20] <xales> Kealper
#2157 [19:20] <Kealper> xales
#2158 [19:20] * xales pokes Kealper with a pink hilighter
#2158 [19:21] <xales> !help
#2159 [19:21] <zampa> Kealper: Good to know.
#2160 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: getting grass down to our subterranean tree farm was certainly.. fun. :)
#2161 [19:21] <Kealper> lol
#2162 [19:21] <xales> :( didn't put a 'servers are down' thing, oh well
#2163 [19:21] <xales> anyway
#2164 [19:21] * xales goes AFK again
#2164 [19:21] <Kealper> it's a temp command, it's !website
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#2166 [19:22] <lemon-rev> lol well when your like half way up in the sky dopeghoti and like theres a big building so trees can grow with out much interferance from bothersum creaters id say i've done well lol
#2167 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/map/?lat=0.521779&lng=0.529691&zoom=9 <- that's our first tree farm. It goes down several levels.
#2168 [19:23] <Guest1390138891> Guys, great news. I just got my prizerebel account back (where i got my minecraft code). It sais date purchased, and code. If I send notch a message with my username, code, purchase date ,would he reset password?
#2169 [19:23] <Kealper> probably not
#2170 [19:24] <Guest1390138891> .....no?
#2171 [19:24] <Kealper> i never said he wouldn't, just that he probably won't
#2172 [19:24] <lemon-rev> dopeghoti thats dammed inmpressive man
#2173 [19:24] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: O.o
#2174 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> no, http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/map/?lat=0.518321&lng=0.654017&zoom=8 is impressive. And still under construction
#2175 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> also http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/map/?lat=0.458934&lng=0.637731&zoom=8 which looks a helluvalot better in-game
#2176 [19:26] <Guest1390138891> WOAH DOPEGHOTI IS THAT EDITED OR DID U ACTUALLY BUILD THAT
#2177 [19:26] <zampa> DopeGhoti: You have explored quite a bit of the map.
#2178 [19:26] <Guest1390138891> Sorry for yelling
#2179 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> Everything on my server was built manually with no editors or /give commands :)
#2180 [19:27] <lemon-rev> howd you get googlemaps to see your mc ?
#2181 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> It's not that impressive on the map, but http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/map/?lat=0.474543&lng=0.584483&zoom=8 is crazy-fun to ride up and down ingame too
#2182 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> not visible: working subway terminal with cart supply, launching, and reclamation
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#2184 [19:29] <zampa> I wish i had the discipline to build something that big...
#2185 [19:29] <feenyx> hm, I should update my gmap aswell
#2186 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> mine's updated daily :)
#2187 [19:29] <zampa> i simply dug a tunnel a few hundred tiles
#2188 [19:30] <zampa> and made a second and third level.
#2189 [19:30] <feenyx> DopeGhoti: did you just make a script and schedule it to run?
#2190 [19:30] <zampa> just to farm some materials.
#2191 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2170691/Lighthouse.png <- the lighthose, in-game
#2192 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> (some time abo)
#2193 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> er, ago
#2194 [19:31] <zampa> Abo! xD
#2195 [19:31] <feenyx> that. is. awesome.
#2196 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2170691/Early%20Big%20Dig.png The Big Dig for that rail terminal having just been started. (and sped up with some TNT)
#2197 [19:32] <zampa> only thing i cant seem to find is lava
#2198 [19:33] <zampa> i have like 10k cobblestone
#2199 [19:33] <Senillis> dig\
#2200 [19:33] <zampa> but have not found lava yet.
#2201 [19:33] <zampa> or 15k or 20k
#2202 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> indeed, dig down, or look for random forest fires.
#2203 [19:33] <zampa> cant bother count it
#2204 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> at the latter, you may find a magma lake
#2205 [19:33] <Senillis> I made one world once, where I spawned right in the middle of a forest fire with a Magma lake about 10 blocks from me
#2206 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2170691/stats.txt <- the composition of my world, as of a few days sgo
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#2209 [19:38] <feenyx> making an updated isometric map now, while the gmap thingy is processing
#2210 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> feenyx: thanks for your kind words; I"m really proud of what we've accomplished on my server so far
#2211 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> we have so many plans too
#2212 [19:39] <feenyx> how many active players are there?
#2213 [19:39] <feenyx> (also, I'm a big fan of lighthouses)
#2214 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> About a dozen, maybe a little less
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#2216 [19:41] <mib_zk2860> Holla
#2217 [19:41] <mib_zk2860> :D
#2218 [19:41] <mib_zk2860> Just kidding, I speak enlgish.
#2219 [19:41] <feenyx> we've got some semi-big projects on my server aswell, but that lighthouse was huge
#2220 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> It took a couple days, and it's still being refined on the interior
#2221 [19:42] <mib_zk2860> Okay
#2222 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> each floor has a theme, and it's getting even zanier now that we have colour
#2223 [19:42] <mib_zk2860> Dude that's beast!
#2224 [19:43] <feenyx> updated topographical map: http://mancyclopedia.org/minecraft/topography.png
#2225 [19:44] <kitten> whenever i log onto the xkcd minecraft server, my router crashes
#2226 [19:44] <kitten> very weird.
#2227 [19:44] <Kealper> xkcd has a minecraft server? win
#2228 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> why am I not surprised that there's an xkcd server
#2229 [19:45] <kitten> #xkcd-minecraft
#2230 [19:45] <kitten> i think there are 2
#2231 [19:49] <feenyx> here's one I made earlier: http://mancyclopedia.org/minecraft/lighthouse.png
#2232 [19:49] <feenyx> much earlier :p
#2233 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> feenyx: neither of those links work for me; they time out.
#2234 [19:51] <Kealper> work fine for me
#2235 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> huh.
#2236 [19:52] <feenyx> Kealper's seen the lighthouse in person too, though
#2237 [19:59] <feenyx> wahey, updated gmap of my server aswell: http://mancyclopedia.org/gmap/index.html
#2238 [19:59] <feenyx> most of it was built by a friend and I, we've had some roommates help gather materials though
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#2242 [20:05] <Relezite> Hello there.
#2243 [20:06] <Relezite> Bought a gift code 90 minutes ago, can't find it in any email on my profile page.
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#2245 [20:06] <Vtx> Hi
#2246 [20:07] <Relezite> Afraid I might have activated on my already active account
#2247 [20:07] <Relezite> If such a thing is possible
#2248 [20:07] <Vtx> I have questiosn
#2249 [20:07] <Vtx> questions*.
#2250 [20:07] <Blueprinted> CAn anyone here tell me how to make a server, that's like the singleplayer? D:
#2251 [20:08] <feenyx> look at the topic :)
#2252 [20:08] <Blueprinted> which topic.
#2253 [20:08] <Blueprinted> D:
#2254 [20:08] <feenyx> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorial/Minecraft_Help_FAQ
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#2256 [20:10] <Blueprinted> I've already set it up via that text ;\
#2257 [20:10] <feenyx> in that case, tell us what the problem is
#2258 [20:10] <Blueprinted> well
#2259 [20:11] <Blueprinted> it gives you the set of blocks, no inventory and you can't "creep"
#2260 [20:11] <feenyx> that means you've made a Classic server, not a Survival Server
#2261 [20:11] <feenyx> you got the wrong server installer :)
#2262 [20:11] <Blueprinted> D: Theres more than one?
#2263 [20:11] <feenyx> yes, one for each game mode
#2264 [20:12] <Blueprinted> ./fail D:
#2265 [20:12] <feenyx> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorial/Setting_up_a_server
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#2267 [20:12] <Sphex> Hey there, just wondering.. are you supposed to get a confirmation email after purchasing the game?
#2268 [20:12] <Blueprinted> yes.
#2269 [20:12] <feenyx> Sphex: yes, but due to technical issues, they can be somewhat delayed
#2270 [20:12] <feenyx> Blueprinted: http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2271 [20:13] <feenyx> although it seems to be down at the moment :p
#2272 [20:13] <feenyx> or not, just add www
#2273 [20:13] <Sphex> Okay, so i'm assuming I just have to wait it out?
#2274 [20:13] <feenyx> Blueprinted: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp -- at the bottom it says Multiplayer beta server software
#2275 [20:13] <feenyx> Sphex: afraid so
#2276 [20:14] <Blueprinted> @feenyx, yes I have downloaded that... ;\
#2277 [20:14] <Blueprinted> There seems to be only one.
#2278 [20:14] <Blueprinted> So... how do I change it from Classic to Survival.
#2279 [20:14] <feenyx> you don't
#2280 [20:14] <feenyx> they are separate downloads
#2281 [20:15] <Blueprinted> ;\ Care to designate the two?
#2282 [20:15] <feenyx> Classic and Survival
#2283 [20:15] <Blueprinted> Yes, but there respective links.
#2284 [20:16] <Relezite> When you get a moment, I've got a question
#2285 [20:16] <feenyx> http://www.minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip is for classic
#2286 [20:17] <feenyx> the previous link was for Survival
#2287 [20:17] <feenyx> did you download a .zip, a .exe, or a .jar?
#2288 [20:17] <pbc2> damn shits still not working
#2289 [20:17] <pbc2> wth
#2290 [20:17] <pbc2> ugh
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#2292 [20:18] <Blueprinted> came with a minecraft server.jar, and a start server .bat
#2293 [20:18] <Blueprinted> gives me a url to my server once launched, and lets me join via internet java app.
#2294 [20:18] <feenyx> Blueprinted: and then you started the client, clicked multiplayer, and wrote "localhost" in the servername field to connect?
#2295 [20:19] <feenyx> err, an url?
#2296 [20:19] <Blueprinted> yes url.
#2297 [20:19] <feenyx> the SMP server doesn't give any urls out as far as I know
#2298 [20:19] <pbc2> hes using classic server
#2299 [20:19] <feenyx> ye
#2300 [20:19] <Blueprinted> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=d7fb5ab3bd4e01f3baf701b9325af802
#2301 [20:19] <Blueprinted> ;\
#2302 [20:20] <pbc2> so uh is there like an eta on when ill beable to login again?
#2303 [20:20] <pbc2> ;/
#2304 [20:20] <feenyx> Blueprinted: download http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1295659048778
#2305 [20:20] <feenyx> Blueprinted: put that in a directory of its own, then run it
#2306 [20:20] <feenyx> it will create a world folder and some settings files
#2307 [20:21] <Blueprinted> what am I putting in it's own folder, the batch?
#2308 [20:21] <pbc2> the minecaft_server.jar
#2309 [20:21] <pbc2> then run it
#2310 [20:22] <pbc2> then youll see some files pop up
#2311 [20:22] <pbc2> world folder
#2312 [20:22] <pbc2> and some config files
#2313 [20:22] <pbc2> then you'll neeed to config the server to your likings
#2314 [20:22] <pbc2> and port forward 26656 if you havent done that already
#2315 [20:23] <pbc2> then you should be good to go
#2316 [20:23] <Blueprinted> won't let me download that ;\
#2317 [20:23] <pbc2> http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2318 [20:24] <pbc2> download the minecraft_server
#2319 [20:24] <pbc2> first link at the bottom of the page
#2320 [20:24] <Relezite> Would you guys know why I havent recieved a gift code two hours after buying it? Or is that probably just a server issue?
#2321 [20:24] <feenyx> Relezite: 90% chance of yes
#2322 [20:24] <Relezite> Alright, thanks
#2323 [20:24] <pbc2> id like to know whats goin on with my account
#2324 [20:25] <pbc2> because i cant login
#2325 [20:25] <pbc2> and when i try to retrive my password
#2326 [20:25] <pbc2> i get this error
#2327 [20:25] <pbc2> Couldn't find that user.
#2328 [20:25] <pbc2> i mean wtf
#2329 [20:25] <feenyx> what's your minecraft username?
#2330 [20:26] <pbc2> i was logedin this morning
#2331 [20:26] <pbc2> pbc243
#2332 [20:26] <feenyx> !paid pbc243
#2333 [20:26] <feenyx> oh
#2334 [20:26] <Kealper> that's gonna time out
#2335 [20:26] <feenyx> in that case, it's just the login servers struggling to authenticate you before it times out
#2336 [20:26] <Kealper> woh....laggy
#2337 [20:26] <feenyx> Kealper: OH IS IT?! :D
#2338 [20:26] <pbc2> okay see i did pay for it
#2339 [20:26] <pbc2> now why the hell is it saying that it couldnt find user
#2340 [20:26] <pbc2> i mean seriously
#2341 [20:27] <feenyx> [02:25:16] <+feenyx> in that case, it's just the login servers struggling to authenticate you before it times out
#2342 [20:27] <feenyx> all is not well in server-land
#2343 [20:27] <pbc2> must time out in .0.0 seconds cuz it just times out automaticaly
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#2345 [20:27] <Flux> helloz
#2346 [20:27] <feenyx> pbc2: or there's just no route to the server at all
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#2348 [20:28] <pbc2> really a pain to moderate my server with out being ingame
#2349 [20:28] <feenyx> errormessages don't always mean exactly what they say. One message could cover a whole host of problems.
#2350 [20:28] <pbc2> i have to do everything thru irc ;|
#2351 [20:28] <Flux> does anyone know how to install mods onto a SMP server? such as the "mo'monsters" mod and the one that makes the save process easyer on the lag?
#2352 [20:29] <pbc2> bukkit prerealease?
#2353 [20:29] <feenyx> Flux: try #bukkit or some other mod channel
#2354 [20:29] <Flux> oh okayz
#2355 [20:29] <Flux> thankz
#2356 [20:29] <feenyx> we've got a hard enough time supporting the core game, to have to worry about alpha/beta mods :p
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#2360 [20:30] <sawine> On a 4gb ram dedicated server, with how many ram should i start minecraft with ?
#2361 [20:31] <pbc2> the game only uses 1gig i believe
#2362 [20:31] <pbc2> u could probly do 30ppl though
#2363 [20:32] <pbc2> i have a server with 2gigs and 20 ppl and runs fine
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#2365 [20:33] <Blueprinted> Okay
#2366 [20:33] <feenyx> pbc2: what did you specify in the batch though? Max 1024 or 2048?
#2367 [20:33] <Blueprinted> so now that I have the server up
#2368 [20:33] <pbc2> max 1024
#2369 [20:33] <pbc2> i just have 2gigs ram on the server
#2370 [20:34] <pbc2> so it doesnt overload
#2371 [20:34] <feenyx> ah yes
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#2373 [20:34] <feenyx> Blueprinted: now you sit and wait for the login servers to work again :p
#2374 [20:34] <pbc2> which sucks btw
#2375 [20:34] <pbc2> D:
#2376 [20:34] <Blueprinted> they work :D
#2377 [20:34] <Blueprinted> err atleast
#2378 [20:35] <Blueprinted> I just logged in.
#2379 [20:35] <pbc2> u lucky sumbitch
#2380 [20:35] <Blueprinted> it downloaded some files, then I pressed multiplayer, then localhost... now i'm in my server.
#2381 [20:35] <Blueprinted> ;o
#2382 [20:35] <Flux> will using a ram server reduce lag? is there a down side?
#2383 [20:35] <OODavo> Flux: Using lots of RAM.
#2384 [20:35] <Blueprinted> How would someone join my server.
#2385 [20:36] <Blueprinted> lmao
#2386 [20:36] <Flux> how much is a lot, i have a few gigz
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#2388 [20:36] <pbc2> if its local host then they have to be on the same network
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#2391 [20:36] <pbc2> if its wan then go to ipchicken.com and getur ip
#2392 [20:36] <pbc2> and they should beable to connect to ur ip
#2393 [20:36] <Blueprinted> so, how do I make it public.
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#2395 [20:36] <Evil^> anyone alive at this time of night? XD
#2396 [20:36] <Kealper> always
#2397 [20:36] <pbc2> portforward
#2398 [20:36] <Evil^> aha!
#2399 [20:36] <Evil^> activity ^^
#2400 [20:36] <Flux> only the creepers and spiders, there rest are kinda undead
#2401 [20:37] <Blueprinted> possible to portforward without having to log into my router ;\
#2402 [20:37] <pbc2> nope
#2403 [20:37] <Kealper> Blueprinted: yes, but it's my personal enemy
#2404 [20:37] <pbc2> you have to login to ur router to portforward
#2405 [20:37] <Evil^> im not trying to sound like those im sure youve had over the past few days however im in a odd situation
#2406 [20:37] <Blueprinted> possible to access my router remotely?
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#2408 [20:37] <Evil^> im able to connect to the site using 184.73.252.76 however using minecraft.net i have no luck
#2409 [20:37] <Evil^> i honestly have no idea on were to start in resolving this :/
#2410 [20:37] <Kealper> Evil^: your DNS stuff has not updated yet, use 8.8.8.8 as your DNS
#2411 [20:38] <Kealper> or just wait
#2412 [20:38] <pbc2> use opendns ftw
#2413 [20:38] <Evil^> aha
#2414 [20:38] <Evil^> opendns?
#2415 [20:38] <pbc2> yeah
#2416 [20:38] <pbc2> google it
#2417 [20:38] <SkiingPenguins> or google dns :)
#2418 [20:38] <Kealper> that one i gave was Google's dns
#2419 [20:38] <SkiingPenguins> yep
#2420 [20:38] <pbc2> oo
#2421 [20:39] <pbc2> ididn kno
#2422 [20:39] <Evil^> how would i go about changing it?
#2423 [20:39] <Evil^> ah wait it in my router settings i take it?
#2424 [20:39] <pbc2> yeap
#2425 [20:39] <wab> Does anyone know how long linux client on the site will be down?
#2426 [20:39] <SkiingPenguins> you can do it on your computer i believe
#2427 [20:39] <Kealper> wab: it's never been gone
#2428 [20:40] <Kealper> change Minecraft.jar to minecraft.jar in the url
#2429 [20:40] <wab> Thanks
#2430 [20:40] <SkiingPenguins> are you serious? O_o
#2431 [20:40] <Kealper> yes
#2432 [20:40] <SkiingPenguins> that's so dumb :|
#2433 [20:40] <Kealper> case-sensitive webserver...stupidest thing EVER..but whatever
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#2435 [20:41] <CruelNoise> anyone got any idea what "Connection lost - Internal exception: java.io.EOFException"
#2436 [20:41] <CruelNoise> means?
#2437 [20:41] <SkiingPenguins> End Of File something..?
#2438 [20:41] <pbc2> lost connection?
#2439 [20:42] <CruelNoise> yeah, but what's the problem?
#2440 [20:42] <CruelNoise> server/
#2441 [20:42] <CruelNoise> client
#2442 [20:42] <Kealper> CruelNoise: uhh
#2443 [20:42] <Kealper> is the server updated to the latest version?
#2444 [20:43] <Blueprinted> So the only way I can make my server public is if I forward my ports?
#2445 [20:43] <SkiingPenguins> yes
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#2447 [20:43] <Kealper> i'm sorry sir, i'll need to check your username to make sure you paid before i give support CruelNoise :P
#2448 [20:43] <Blueprinted> But is it possible to access my router login remotely?
#2449 [20:43] <Blueprinted> Instead of having to hook an ethernet up to it... ;\
#2450 [20:43] <Kealper> Blueprinted: google something called UPnP port forward
#2451 [20:43] <CruelNoise> Kealper: ass
#2452 [20:43] <Kealper> you'll probably find a free tool to do it
#2453 [20:44] <SkiingPenguins> WHAT? UPnP does minecraft?
#2454 [20:44] <Kealper> CruelNoise: :P
#2455 [20:44] <CruelNoise> !haspaid CruelNoise
#2456 [20:44] <Kealper> !paid CruelNoise
#2457 [20:44] <Kealper> spaces?
#2458 [20:44] <CruelNoise> gonna tell me now?
#2459 [20:44] <SkiingPenguins> Blueprinted: you can use wifi to get to your router webpage
#2460 [20:44] <Kealper> i was just kidding xD
#2461 [20:44] <Kealper> CruelNoise: ok but seriously, are you sure both server and client are the same version?
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#2463 [20:45] <Kealper> also, does it give that every time? or just the onec?
#2464 [20:45] <Kealper> once*
#2465 [20:45] <Evil^> would i need to bother changing my dns back btw?
#2466 [20:45] <Kealper> no, Google's is quite nice
#2467 [20:45] <CruelNoise> Kealper: I don't know.
#2468 [20:45] <CruelNoise> I'm just relaying for another person
#2469 [20:45] <CruelNoise> He says he connects, it renders everything, and then gives him that.
#2470 [20:45] <Evil^> thanks kaelper mate :) sorted now
#2471 [20:46] <Kealper> oh.....why not get him in here? lol
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#2473 [20:46] <Kealper> username of faggotry? really?
#2474 [20:46] <Kealper> REALLY?!
#2475 [20:46] <Kealper> anywho
#2476 [20:46] <NinjaKirby> Oh god, just got a black screen
#2477 [20:47] <NinjaKirby> Server hasn't noted any change on my connection
#2478 [20:47] <Kealper> CruelNoise: it's probably a NIC-related issue if he is trying to connect to the correct server version with the correct client
#2479 [20:47] <CruelNoise> NIC?
#2480 [20:47] <Kealper> network interface card
#2481 [20:47] <Kealper> network adapter
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#2483 [20:49] <Blueprinted> okay... so in my router setup, how would I forward my ports ;o
#2484 [20:49] <Blueprinted> <- nub.
#2485 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on?
#2486 [20:49] <SkiingPenguins> what type of router?
#2487 [20:49] <Blueprinted> Linksys
#2488 [20:49] <feenyx> www.portforward.com - look up your model
#2489 [20:49] <Kealper> http://portforward.com
#2490 [20:49] <Kealper> ninja'd
#2491 [20:49] <feenyx> you better belive it!
#2492 [20:50] <Blueprinted> Port range forward
#2493 [20:50] <Blueprinted> gives me application names, 0 to 0 protocol, drop down menu, then an ip
#2494 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> application name, MC server
#2495 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> 25565-25565
#2496 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> TCP
#2497 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> ip is your server's internal IP,
#2498 [20:51] <feenyx> most likely 192.168.x.x
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#2500 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2501 [20:51] <Kealper> ninja'd again
#2502 [20:51] <debrabeauchamp> Is anyone here helpfull?
#2503 [20:51] <Blueprinted> yeah but it has the last digit open
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#2505 [20:51] <Blueprinted> should I change it?
#2506 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Blueprinted - You need to fill it in yourself
#2507 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on
#2508 [20:51] <Blueprinted> windows
#2509 [20:51] <Blueprinted> vista
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#2511 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> start -> cmd in your search bar
#2512 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> then ipconfig
#2513 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> look for the ipv4 address
#2514 [20:52] <secondsoul> I have a save problem, can someone help?
#2515 [20:52] <Blueprinted> 100
#2516 [20:52] <Kealper> yessir?
#2517 [20:52] <Blueprinted> then I just enable it?
#2518 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Blueprinted - Yes
#2519 [20:53] <Kealper> secondsoul: yessir?
#2520 [20:53] <Blueprinted> so to join the server it would be
#2521 [20:53] <Blueprinted> 192.168.1.100;25565
#2522 [20:53] <Blueprinted> ?
#2523 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> If you were to join the server yourself, on the same machine, it would be 127.0.0.1, or 192.168.1.100
#2524 [20:53] <secondsoul> I have a problem loading a save. It has happened since the update. I think it's because I had more minerals. do you think you could help?
#2525 [20:54] <SkiingPenguins> no just 192.168.1.100
#2526 [20:54] <Blueprinted> no need for the port?
#2527 [20:54] <SkiingPenguins> nope
#2528 [20:54] <SkiingPenguins> not unless it's other than the default :)
#2529 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> if you wanted somebody else to join the server, you would give them the public ip address found in your router's status page
#2530 [20:54] <feenyx> Blueprinted: if you want _other_ people to connect, they need your WAN ip
#2531 [20:54] <Kealper> secondsoul: could you be more specific? what exactly happened to your save?
#2532 [20:54] <Blueprinted> Wan ip?
#2533 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2534 [20:54] <feenyx> www.myip.org
#2535 [20:54] <feenyx> err
#2536 [20:55] <feenyx> http://www.whatsmyip.com/
#2537 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Your linksys router has a status page, look for the internet IP address listed there
#2538 [20:55] <feenyx> I mean
#2539 [20:55] <secondsoul> I put my save on a usb. (during 1.1 beta) and a week later updated and downloaded my save. and it crashed when I try to load it. but works fine in MCedit and if I downgrade
#2540 [20:55] <Blueprinted> so thats the ip needed to access my server?
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#2542 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2543 [20:55] <secondsoul> I can send you the crash log from whisper if you want.
#2544 [20:55] <zampa> GreyVulpine: Simply visiting myip.dk would work
#2545 [20:55] <Blueprinted> mind trying to join it?
#2546 [20:56] <zampa> if its public that is.
#2547 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> zampa - There's tons of ways to get your public ip
#2548 [20:56] <Kealper> secondsoul: were you using any mods on your client before the update?
#2549 [20:56] <feenyx> Blueprinted: I'd try it if I could just get past login :p
#2550 [20:56] <zampa> If you need teh local ip adress, simply open run -> write cmd -> ipconfig /all
#2551 [20:57] <Kealper> secondsoul: also, put the error report on http://pastebin.com and gimme the link
#2552 [20:57] <zampa> and check there.
#2553 [20:57] <secondsoul> More minerals. Betterlight/grass. Mo animals and humans+ got updated version for all them except humans+ and it still won't work
#2554 [20:58] <Blueprinted> 71.15.125.44
#2555 [20:58] <Blueprinted> try to join?
#2556 [20:58] <feenyx> !check 71.15.125.44
#2557 [20:58] <secondsoul> http://pastebin.com/iEq5CB5D
#2558 [20:58] <Kealper> secondsoul: more minerals? as in it added new items to the game? and this was before the update, and it now crashes after the update?
#2559 [20:58] <secondsoul> Now It doesn't crash well loading, it crashes after it loads me
#2560 [20:58] <zampa> !check google.com
#2561 [20:59] <secondsoul> Yes. it adds new items.
#2562 [20:59] <Kealper> secondsoul: you had some of those minerals in your inventory before you updated, didn't you?
#2563 [20:59] <secondsoul> No, but I had some on my map
#2564 [20:59] <Kealper> that'd do it
#2565 [20:59] <SkiingPenguins> haha someone got pwned
#2566 [20:59] <Kealper> you can't use that map until you get the updated mod that added those new items
#2567 [21:00] <secondsoul> I have.
#2568 [21:00] <secondsoul> More minerals has a update and I downloaded it. The updates works on my other saves
#2569 [21:00] <secondsoul> I also have dyes and they work on my other saves too.
#2570 [21:01] <Blueprinted> so
#2571 [21:01] <Blueprinted> does that mean it didn't work ;o?
#2572 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> It did
#2573 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Lemme connect Blueprinted
#2574 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Works fine here
#2575 [21:02] <Kealper> secondsoul: the only things i can think of is that map got corrupt, or something happened with those mods that the latest update does not like
#2576 [21:02] <Blueprinted> coolio
#2577 [21:03] <Blueprinted> thanks for the help guys
#2578 [21:03] <Blueprinted> one last question
#2579 [21:03] <secondsoul> I know the map isn't corrupt because I can load it if I downgrade and load it in MCedit.
#2580 [21:03] <Blueprinted> if I don't open minecraft_server.jar will the server still be up?
#2581 [21:03] <SkiingPenguins> i dont think so
#2582 [21:03] <Blueprinted> okee dokee, thanks guys. Very much appreciate it :D
#2583 [21:03] <secondsoul> I also have ingame INVedit (I realize now I have too much mods...) could that cause it?
#2584 [21:04] <Kealper> absolutely
#2585 [21:04] <Kealper> that's why this channel does not officially support third party software or mods
#2586 [21:04] <Kealper> they cause too much sparatic client behavior
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#2589 [21:08] <secondsoul> Oh. well is there a way to install it?
#2590 [21:08] <secondsoul> *uninstall
#2591 [21:08] <Kealper> well, yes, but i'm not sure if that will fix it, as it's probably your maps that are corrupt, and not the game it self
#2592 [21:09] <Kealper> you can try reinstalling minecraft if you want, though
#2593 [21:09] <Kealper> go to %appdata%\.minecraft and delete the bin folder
#2594 [21:09] <SkiingPenguins> why not edit the map and remove the bad things? with an editor
#2595 [21:09] <secondsoul> Yeah tried that. but is my map corrupt if I can load it when downgraded?
#2596 [21:10] <Kealper> downgraded?
#2597 [21:10] <SkiingPenguins> uh probably not if you can load it with an older version
#2598 [21:10] <secondsoul> If I load it from beta 1.1
#2599 [21:10] <secondsoul> penguin: eh that would be tedius.
#2600 [21:10] <Kealper> if you can get beta 1.1, and you installed all the game-changing mods back on it, yeah it'd work
#2601 [21:11] <secondsoul> I may of used say a emerald to light my path when I as lost
#2602 [21:11] <Kealper> this is exactly why i hate mods....they totally break the game as soon as the game gets updated -.-
#2603 [21:13] <secondsoul> haha yeah. If I ever get it working I will only have mo creatures betterlight and textures :p
#2604 [21:15] <secondsoul> skiingPenguins: you have any ideas?
#2605 [21:16] <SkiingPenguins> nope
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#2607 [21:17] <secondsoul> urgh, I've tried irc help twice. Irc once, The forums and my friends... this is annoying : (
#2608 [21:17] <SkiingPenguins> dont use mods and you'll have fewer problems >.>
#2609 [21:18] <secondsoul> ahah a bit late on that : p
#2610 [21:18] <secondsoul> Im not used to mods corrupting games to this degree. usually the games I play are more stable
#2611 [21:19] <feenyx> the games you usally play aren't in Beta
#2612 [21:20] <feenyx> and neither are the mods
#2613 [21:20] <secondsoul> I know, Im not sayings it's minecraft's fault. Notch says one of the main things he wants to work on is updates not corrupting mods
#2614 [21:21] <feenyx> and a working modding API
#2615 [21:21] <secondsoul> so feenyx you have any ideas?
#2616 [21:22] <feenyx> secondsoul: not as far as corrupted savegames go, no
#2617 [21:22] <feenyx> secondsoul: I've never had the problem myself :)
#2618 [21:23] <secondsoul> haha lucky :(
#2619 [21:23] <feenyx> I don't know if luck has anything to do with it
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#2621 [21:23] <secondsoul> Does anyone I talk to use MCedit or other tools like that?
#2622 [21:23] <feenyx> I've just never used any mods aside from various admin tools
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#2624 [21:25] <secondsoul> Because im wondering if I could save bits of it and load it on a different map
#2625 [21:25] <secondsoul> Like copy and pasting
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#2627 [21:26] <dh47> d\
#2628 [21:26] <dh47> hello all
#2629 [21:26] <secondsoul> hey
#2630 [21:26] <dh47> anyone got the new update?
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#2632 [21:27] <dh47> mine client wont see to update
#2633 [21:27] <dh47> anyone getting this error too?
#2634 [21:27] <feenyx> the last update was some days ago now
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#2636 [21:27] <feenyx> a week, actually
#2637 [21:27] <Axel_> e35:8a5d:8690:217:f2ff:fe50:7047 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :hey ! anyone got their UI taken away after installing Minimap mod with latest update of MC on Mac ??
#2638 [21:27] <dh47> 1.2_02 right?
#2639 [21:27] <feenyx> no, 1.2_01
#2640 [21:28] <feenyx> 1.2_02 isn't out yet
#2641 [21:28] <Axel_> e35:8a5d:8690:217:f2ff:fe50:7047 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :ive got 1.2_02
#2642 [21:28] <dh47> how come some people have it?
#2643 [21:28] <feenyx> or actually, I can't tell you that with 100% certainty, because I can't login at the moment :p
#2644 [21:28] <dh47> Axel_ how to update?
#2645 [21:29] <feenyx> dh47: it updates automatically, but that's only when the servers work
#2646 [21:29] <feenyx> if yours doesn't update, that's why
#2647 [21:29] <Axel_> e35:8a5d:8690:217:f2ff:fe50:7047 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :just restart MC client, should download
#2648 [21:29] <dh47> oh good
#2649 [21:29] <dh47> thought i didnt something wrong there
#2650 [21:29] <Axel_> e35:8a5d:8690:217:f2ff:fe50:7047 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :anyone got UI problem on Mac with Minimap mod ?
#2651 [21:30] <dh47> Minimap mod!
#2652 [21:30] <dh47> can i hasz!
#2653 [21:30] <Axel_> e35:8a5d:8690:217:f2ff:fe50:7047 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :google zan's minimap
#2654 [21:32] <dh47> nice
#2655 [21:32] <dh47> yay getting update
#2656 [21:32] <Axel_> e35:8a5d:8690:217:f2ff:fe50:7047 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :careful tho, maybe problme with 1.2_02
#2657 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> _02 does nothing but updates the location of the servers
#2658 [21:33] <dh47> location of the servers?
#2659 [21:33] * GreyVulpine nods
#2659 [21:33] <dh47> so this is a server update?
#2660 [21:33] <Kealper> moved textures off minecraft.net and on to a CDN
#2661 [21:33] <Kealper> to take a huge load off minecraft.net
#2662 [21:34] <dh47> right
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#2665 [21:34] <dh47> well always better to update :D
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#2667 [21:34] <aetherian> bock
#2668 [21:34] <Kealper> just a client update, but yes, updating to this is probably a good idea lol
#2669 [21:35] <MCNewbie> Are people answering questions now?
#2670 [21:35] <sawine> anyone can help me with setting up a debian dedidated server for mc
#2671 [21:35] <Kealper> we're always answering questions
#2672 [21:35] <sawine> apt-get install sun-java6-jre is not working , it says no candidate
#2673 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Need to add the repo
#2674 [21:36] <Kealper> uhh.....are you sure that's the package name? (i don't use linux :/)
#2675 [21:36] <MCNewbie> oh, thanks you. I got MC earlier today and I really like the game, but there are red pixles everywhere and I'm not sure how to fix it
#2676 [21:36] <Kealper> what grey said, i suck at nix
#2677 [21:37] <Kealper> MCNewbie: are you on an older mac?
#2678 [21:37] <MCNewbie> using windows
#2679 [21:37] <Kealper> O.o
#2680 [21:37] <Kealper> that's weird
#2681 [21:37] <Kealper> latest grahpics drivers?
#2682 [21:37] <MCNewbie> I don't have too much of a bad hardware either. It's not the best, but it's ok
#2683 [21:38] <MCNewbie> yes
#2684 [21:38] <MCNewbie> I'll try to take a secrren shot and upload it somewhere
#2685 [21:38] <MCNewbie> screen*
#2686 [21:39] <MCNewbie> http://img220.imageshack.us/i/wha
#2687 [21:39] <MCNewbie> oops, didn't copy it all the way
#2688 [21:39] <MCNewbie> http://img220.imageshack.us/i/whatsw.png/
#2689 [21:40] <Kealper> hmmmm....
#2690 [21:41] <MCNewbie> I tried using the tiny distance setting and the fast setting
#2691 [21:42] <Kealper> honestly, i think it's something to do with graphics drivers....
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#2693 [21:44] <pbc2> so
#2694 [21:44] <pbc2> anyupdate on the servers?
#2695 [21:44] <pbc2> cuz i stil cant login!!
#2696 [21:44] <Kealper> O.o
#2697 [21:44] <Kealper> works fine for me
#2698 [21:44] <pbc2> not for me
#2699 [21:44] <Kealper> did you switch DNS providers?
#2700 [21:44] <pbc2> nope
#2701 [21:45] <pbc2> i should do that?
#2702 [21:45] <Kealper> try doing that, use the dns server 8.8.8.8
#2703 [21:45] <pbc2> ok
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#2709 [21:56] <exp0> anyone know a fix for the malformed packet
#2710 [21:57] <Kealper> exp0: either the server is out of date, or your client is out of date
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#2712 [21:57] <pbc> i still cant login
#2713 [21:58] <pbc> google dns doesnt change nothing ;
#2714 [21:58] <Kealper> O.o
#2715 [21:58] <Kealper> what is it telling you?
#2716 [21:58] <pbc> login failed
#2717 [21:59] <pbc> ugh
#2718 [21:59] <pbc> idk
#2719 [21:59] <Kealper> ok, any specific error?
#2720 [21:59] <Kealper> login failed is not giving me much to go on lol
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#2722 [22:00] <pbc> wel thats all its saying
#2723 [22:00] <pbc> idk what else to tell ya
#2724 [22:00] <pbc> i mean it worked this morning and now it just doesnt wana work
#2725 [22:00] <Kealper> :/
#2726 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> What's your minecraft username?
#2727 [22:01] <pbc> pbc243
#2728 [22:01] <pbc> !paid pbc243
#2729 [22:01] <pbc> theres proof i have it.....
#2730 [22:02] <exp0> Kealper, my client is 1.2_02 and my server is 1.2_01
#2731 [22:02] <Kealper> i don't think he was looking for proof of purchase, but rather just that the account was still active
#2732 [22:02] <exp0> They don't have another server version to download.
#2733 [22:02] <pbc> oh
#2734 [22:02] <pbc> well why would my account be disactivated?
#2735 [22:02] <pbc> unless someone messd it up....
#2736 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> When are you getting Login Failed?
#2737 [22:03] <pbc> every time i try to login
#2738 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> To... the downloaded client?
#2739 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> To the browser?
#2740 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> The webstite?
#2741 [22:03] <pbc> in the client
#2742 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> site*
#2743 [22:03] <pbc> and website
#2744 [22:03] <exp0> are you sure you are typing in the correct password?
#2745 [22:03] <pbc> yep
#2746 [22:03] <pbc> ive even tried the password recovery just for the hell of it
#2747 [22:03] <pbc> and it said couldnt find uername
#2748 [22:03] <pbc> i mean wth
#2749 [22:04] <pbc> and with my my username it says email sent but i never got a email
#2750 [22:04] <Kealper> totally just spaced out there
#2751 [22:04] <pbc> .....
#2752 [22:04] <Kealper> exp0: that should not matter with those version differences, it works fine for me with those....
#2753 [22:04] <Kealper> exp0: did it just start giving you that error?
#2754 [22:05] <Kealper> pbc: you can't even log in to the website?
#2755 [22:05] <pbc> no
#2756 [22:05] <pbc> well ill try now
#2757 [22:05] <pbc> its been a while since i tried the site
#2758 [22:05] <pbc> ...nope
#2759 [22:05] <pbc> still cant
#2760 [22:06] <exp0> I started getting them yesterday.
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#2763 [22:06] <Kealper> exp0: are you using any mods? and when does that error happen?
#2764 [22:07] <Nyz> Hello i was wonderiing if i could have a moment of someones time for some server advice?
#2765 [22:07] <Kealper> uh....sure? lol
#2766 [22:07] <exp0> no mods, happens whenever I try to connect to my local server or to some other servers
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#2769 [22:07] <Kealper> exp0: for craps and grins, connect to mc.kealper.com ingame
#2770 [22:08] <Nyz> Well Im using the standard Minecraft server.exe and was wondering if i need to switch to custom server thing to add mods? such as spawnexact?
#2771 [22:08] <pbc> so i guess ive lost my account?
#2772 [22:08] <exp0> did you try recovering your password?
#2773 [22:08] <Kealper> pbc: still doesn't let you log in? does it give a more specific reason?
#2774 [22:08] <pbc> yep cant
#2775 [22:08] <Kealper> and what exp0 said
#2776 [22:08] <pbc> Yes ive tried several times
#2777 [22:09] <pbc> when i try to retrieve my password it give a error
#2778 [22:09] <Kealper> Nyz: no, you just need to get the .jar version of the server
#2779 [22:09] <pbc> saying failed to send email
#2780 [22:09] <Nyz> were do i get the .jar version?
#2781 [22:09] <pbc> idk the whole eorr message
#2782 [22:09] <exp0> I keep getting kicked from your server.
#2783 [22:09] <pbc> but yeah...
#2784 [22:09] <feenyx> Nyz: if you want help with mods, visit a channel that was created for the purpose of supporting mods. We don't technically support mods here :)
#2785 [22:09] <exp0> connection reset fun
#2786 [22:09] <Nyz> ah sorry i was directed here
#2787 [22:10] <slapsack> ooh there is help to be had here...yay!
#2788 [22:10] <Kealper> pbc: that's not good....send an email to daniel@mojang.com with your account name and proof of purchase
#2789 [22:10] <Kealper> exp0: sorry, try again?
#2790 [22:10] <pbc> okay
#2791 [22:10] <Kealper> was messing with stuff earier on it ol
#2792 [22:10] <Kealper> lol*
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#2794 [22:11] <exp0> connection reset
#2795 [22:11] <Relezite2> 3 hours, still no gift code =<
#2796 [22:11] <cornelius> Hey
#2797 [22:11] <Kealper> keeps giving you a disconnect.genericReason
#2798 [22:11] <cornelius> I have a question
#2799 [22:11] <Kealper> totally helpful -.-
#2800 [22:11] <pbc> do you know if he's online now? cuz i kinda would like to beable to login cuz my server is raisn hell beings im not there to moderate it
#2801 [22:11] <pbc> ;|
#2802 [22:11] <exp0> the joy of betas
#2803 [22:11] <Kealper> pbc: probably not, it's very late in Sweden atm
#2804 [22:11] <pbc> oh
#2805 [22:11] <Kealper> exp0: indeed -.-
#2806 [22:11] <slapsack> if someone could help me that would be awesome. for some reason minecraft makes all my ubb ports stop working niw. anyone know about this?
#2807 [22:11] <feenyx> Nyz: anything related to the code written by Mojang, we can and will help you with.
#2808 [22:11] <slapsack> usb*
#2809 [22:11] <cornelius> Why do I keep getting cPanel® instead of minecraft?
#2810 [22:12] <feenyx> Nyz: anything written by anyone else is not worth the headache
#2811 [22:12] <exp0> would be nice if they had a parameter to show detailed debug content.
#2812 [22:12] <feenyx> pbc: you could always just kill the server?
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#2814 [22:12] <Kealper> yeah :/
#2815 [22:12] <cornelius> exp0
#2816 [22:12] <pbc> im doing everything thru irc
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#2818 [22:13] <pbc> its all good but just kinda would like to be there
#2819 [22:13] <exp0> yes, cornelius
#2820 [22:13] <Segata_Sanshiro> SEGA SATURN, SHIRO!
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#2822 [22:13] <Segata_Sanshiro> asobi no michi ni tamashii kometa hitori no otoko ga kyou mo yuku majime ni asobanu yatsura ni wa karada de oboe saseru zo Segata Sanshirou Segata Sanshirou Sega Saturn, shiro!
#2823 [22:13] <Segata_Sanshiro> tenisu ya karaoke nanpa ni kurabu hoka ni suru koto aru darou ga murenakya asobenu yatsura ni wa kokoro ni toi kakeru zo Segata Sanshirou Segata Sanshirou Sega Saturn, shiro!
#2824 [22:13] <cornelius> Why do I keep getting cPanel® instead of minecraft.net/
#2825 [22:13] <Segata_Sanshiro> wakamono yo! shinken ni torikunde irumono ga aru ka! inochigake de uchi konde irumono ga aru ka! Sega Saturn, shiro! yubi ga oreru made! yubi ga oreru made!
#2826 [22:13] <Segata_Sanshiro> setsuna no kairaku oi tsudzukete mo munashii yosei ga nokoru dake tokoton kiwamenu yatsura ni wa karada ni tataki komu zo Segata Sanshirou Segata Sanshirou Sega Saturn, shiro!
#2827 [22:13] * Kealper kicked Segata_Sanshiro from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Segata_Sanshiro)
#2828 [22:13] <feenyx> dammit, my /kb finger is itching
#2829 [22:13] <skaldicpoet9> Hey, does anyone know where the linux client for minecraft is? I am encountering a 404 error trying to download it from the downloads page.
#2830 [22:13] <Kealper> mine was, too :P
#2831 [22:13] <feenyx> oooh, ninja'd
#2832 [22:14] <exp0> it is 404'd
#2833 [22:14] <feenyx> skaldicpoet9: the link is probably good, the server is probably down :p
#2834 [22:14] <Kealper> NEIN
#2835 [22:14] <skaldicpoet9> Damn, how do I get it then?
#2836 [22:14] <exp0> toss creeper, duck for cover
#2837 [22:14] <skaldicpoet9> I just installed Ubuntu but no Minecraft :(
#2838 [22:14] <Kealper> replace Minecraft.jar with minecraft.jar in the download url
#2839 [22:14] <cornelius> Any reason why I keep getting cPanel®?
#2840 [22:14] <KillSpammer> Feenyx
#2841 [22:15] <KillSpammer> Uhh
#2842 [22:15] <KillSpammer> Yeah....
#2843 [22:15] <KillSpammer> What Kealper said
#2844 [22:15] <KillSpammer> Theres a link here somewhere though
#2845 [22:15] <Kealper> exp0: ok, could you try connecting to my server once more? because i think that was actually an issue with my server, not you
#2846 [22:15] <skaldicpoet9> Yay!
#2847 [22:15] <skaldicpoet9> Thanks!
#2848 [22:15] <exp0> cornelius, it might be an issue with the DNs server you are getting info from
#2849 [22:15] <pbc> wait
#2850 [22:16] <pbc> is it because i bought the game during alpha my account doesnt work?
#2851 [22:16] <exp0> Kealper, end of stream this time
#2852 [22:16] <cornelius> ok
#2853 [22:16] <KillSpammer> http://t.co/RtRDMh4
#2854 [22:16] <slapsack> can someone help me plz? *sad puppy face*
#2855 [22:16] <KillSpammer> Kealper - This is a direct link http://t.co/RtRDMh4
#2856 [22:16] <KillSpammer> For linux .jar
#2857 [22:17] <exp0> slapsack, what is wrong.
#2858 [22:17] <Kealper> exp0: that sounds like a NIC issue, did anything change on your coputer within the last few days?
#2859 [22:17] <Kealper> computer*
#2860 [22:17] <exp0> nope
#2861 [22:17] <Kealper> very weird
#2862 [22:17] <exp0> havent toucher any drivers or settings in a while.
#2863 [22:17] <Kealper> especially since i'm on my server just fine :/
#2864 [22:17] <feenyx> bah, still can't log in
#2865 [22:18] <slapsack> for some reason when i play minecraft now all the usb ports on my computer stop working.
#2866 [22:18] <feenyx> and singleplayer survival just isn't the same :p
#2867 [22:18] <exp0> it is spotty, some servers let me on, some dont
#2868 [22:18] <slapsack> it only happens when i play minecraft
#2869 [22:18] <skaldicpoet9> Hmm, anyone know what this error means: "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: minecraft/jar"
#2870 [22:18] <exp0> slapsack, did you add anything with minecraft?
#2871 [22:18] <slapsack> and i only have a usb mouse and keyboard
#2872 [22:18] <slapsack> no i added nothing
#2873 [22:18] <slapsack> just the regular updates
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#2875 [22:20] <exp0> did you have the same issues prior to the regular updates?
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#2877 [22:20] <slapsack> no this started recently,but after which specific update im not sure
#2878 [22:21] <exp0> You know what, does the current version of Java properly support win7?
#2879 [22:21] <exp0> I might have found out whats up with my issue
#2880 [22:22] <Bio-Booster> Anyone have an issue where after several minutes of gameplay screen will randomly go black?
#2881 [22:22] <slapsack> and on a side note...evertime i play minecraft i get a jre error log
#2882 [22:22] <pbc> i used to
#2883 [22:22] <pbc> kealper http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1831/19871690.png
#2884 [22:23] <Kealper> pbc: that'd probably work as proof of purchase lol
#2885 [22:23] <pbc> ok
#2886 [22:23] <pbc> i sent him a email
#2887 [22:23] <Kealper> now the waiting game begins
#2888 [22:24] <Kealper> exp0: as for your issue....that is quite weird that it's only letting you on certain servers....and it has stumped me :/
#2889 [22:24] <pbc> i dont understand how i can be able to play this morning and not now
#2890 [22:24] <exp0> reminds me of the old days with Wow private servers.
#2891 [22:24] <exp0> half the time stuff never worked and bugs were always coming out of the woodwork.
#2892 [22:25] <exp0> pbc, they migrated servers
#2893 [22:25] <pbc> yah but my ccount doesnt work...
#2894 [22:25] <pbc> its like its disappeard
#2895 [22:25] <exp0> if you could use the ispaid page, then it is there
#2896 [22:26] <Kealper> it's active, but it's broke lol
#2897 [22:26] <pbc> in theroy but in reality i cant use it
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#2900 [22:28] <exp0> I never got into jsp so I don't know how the backend would operate
#2901 [22:28] <sneakysmith12> Hello, I just recently got a minecraft account, and when I use the standalone client sometimes the game causes a video crash and my computer says the drivers aren't loaded. Is this a known issue?
#2902 [22:29] <exp0> Is your video card's driver up to date?
#2903 [22:29] <sneakysmith12> Yes
#2904 [22:29] <lemon-rev> exp0 how old is your computer
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#2906 [22:29] <sneakysmith12> Less than 2 years
#2907 [22:29] <exp0> a month old
#2908 [22:29] <pbc> Failed to send email: javax.mail.MessagingException: Could not connect to SMTP host: localhost, port: 25; nested exception is: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused
#2909 [22:29] <sneakysmith12> Radeon 5770 HD graphics card
#2910 [22:29] <pbc> thats the error i get kealper
#2911 [22:29] <pbc> when i try to recover my password
#2912 [22:30] <exp0> just wait for them to get to your email.
#2913 [22:30] <lemon-rev> exp0 how much ram yu got on board ?
#2914 [22:30] <Kealper> guess they don't have the entire site set up yet on the new servers then :/
#2915 [22:30] <exp0> 8 GB
#2916 [22:30] <exp0> my computer can handle WoW, it can handle minecraft
#2917 [22:30] <sneakysmith12> 8GB here
#2918 [22:30] <lemon-rev> exp0 have you tryed updateing your video drivers ?
#2919 [22:30] <exp0> no updates available.
#2920 [22:30] <lemon-rev> k
#2921 [22:31] <sneakysmith12> oh, :P I just realized who those questions were directed at
#2922 [22:31] <exp0> why would minecraft give me a malformed packet issue for my graphics card?
#2923 [22:31] <Miclee> http://www.2playerproductions.com/projects/minecraft
#2924 [22:31] <Miclee> :O
#2925 [22:31] <sneakysmith12> who is your ISP exp?
#2926 [22:32] <lemon-rev> exp0 when was it that you last got mc update
#2927 [22:32] <exp0> comcast and yesterday
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#2929 [22:32] <exp0> had no issues until 1.2_02 shot out at me.
#2930 [22:32] <lemon-rev> exp0 is it happing only in muliplayer or single player
#2931 [22:33] <exp0> multiplayer, I dont make an outside connection when I am playing single player so it would never happen
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#2933 [22:34] <MCNewbie> Hey Kealper, I've reinstalled the drivers and the red pixles are still there. Do you think it could be some inherent problem with my video card/driver (4800) or do you have another idea of what to check?
#2934 [22:34] <pbc> could be bad pixels
#2935 [22:34] <pbc> i have a few in my monitor
#2936 [22:34] <pbc> black shows blue
#2937 [22:34] <pbc> :|
#2938 [22:35] <Kealper> pbc: no, it's actually like the textures are not fully joined in his water
#2939 [22:35] <pbc> oh
#2940 [22:35] <Kealper> quite strange
#2941 [22:35] <Kealper> MCNewbie: you're using the default texture pack right?
#2942 [22:35] <MCNewbie> yes
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#2944 [22:36] <PlasmaSheep> so it looks like the download link here (http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp ) for linux is down
#2945 [22:37] <Kealper> PlasmaSheep: change Minecraft.jar to minecraft.jar
#2946 [22:37] <Kealper> MCNewbie: i really don't know then :/
#2947 [22:37] <PlasmaSheep> Kealper: thanks a lot
#2948 [22:37] <Kealper> and whne you said 4800
#2949 [22:37] <Kealper> when(
#2950 [22:38] <Kealper> ffs...
#2951 [22:38] <Kealper> radeon hd 4800? or geforce 4800?
#2952 [22:38] <MCNewbie> I'm currently checking the online version and seeing if it has similar problems. I don't know what that will add, but it's worth checking
#2953 [22:38] <MCNewbie> hd
#2954 [22:38] <Kealper> oh...yeah, no idea then :/
#2955 [22:38] <Kealper> you could try reinstalling the game, but that probably won't help
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#2959 [22:40] <pbc> why did minecraft have to break
#2960 [22:40] <MCNewbie> well, thanks for your help
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#2963 [22:41] <WACOMalt> Hey, I bought Minecraft for my sister about 3 months ago, before gift codes. She played once back then. She tried to play again a few days ago and it says she doesnt own the game? What's going on?
#2964 [22:41] <slapsack> hax
#2965 [22:41] <WACOMalt> T_T
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#2967 [22:41] <exp0> minecraft went beta and a nuke went off.
#2968 [22:41] <WACOMalt> "User not premium"
#2969 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> WACOMalt - Probably need to send an email to daniel@mojang.com
#2970 [22:42] <WACOMalt> daniel, ok
#2971 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> He'll get you squared away with account issues
#2972 [22:42] <WACOMalt> I sent one to payment about a week ago
#2973 [22:42] <WACOMalt> no response
#2974 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> daniel replies personally to all emails.
#2975 [22:42] <exp0> http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=
#2976 [22:42] <WACOMalt> awesome.
#2977 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> payment, I imagine, has a year long backlog.
#2978 [22:42] <Kealper> poor daniel
#2979 [22:42] <WACOMalt> thanks much
#2980 [22:42] <WACOMalt> lol
#2981 [22:43] <slapsack> so anyone have any idea why all the usb ports on my compy die when i play minecraft?
#2982 [22:43] <pbc> wut
#2983 [22:43] <exp0> well, this is a beta, but I cant see it having access to your usb drivers
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#2987 [22:46] <slapsack> also everytime i play java spit out an error log
#2988 [22:46] * WACOMalt waits for minecraft to come to android. Waits with the $200 he'd be willing to pay for it
#2988 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Lemme guess, OpenAL
#2989 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> WACOMalt - Has been done
#2990 [22:46] <WACOMalt> ?!
#2991 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Check out youtube video
#2992 [22:47] <WACOMalt> saw a level viewer
#2993 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> early alpha, but still
#2994 [22:47] <WACOMalt> that's it
#2995 [22:47] <feenyx> I have a level surfer on my Desire HD
#2996 [22:47] <exp0> $200 for an app is silly
#2997 [22:47] <WACOMalt> source is not out = no one but mojang will make REAL minecraft for android
#2998 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> WACOMalt - I thought it was
#2999 [22:47] <slapsack> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#3000 [22:47] <slapsack> #
#3001 [22:47] <slapsack> # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x4b85c059, pid=9632, tid=9292
#3002 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> slapsack - not here
#3003 [22:47] <exp0> I'd rather hackfix it onto android for free
#3004 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> please
#3005 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> not here
#3006 [22:47] <slapsack> o sry
#3007 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com
#3008 [22:47] <WACOMalt> hackfix?
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#3010 [22:48] <exp0> technical term
#3011 [22:48] <Bagels> sure this has been talked about, but anyone know why minecraft wont let me play smp? says loading terrain and then crashes
#3012 [22:48] <WACOMalt> force it better?
#3013 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> slapsack - let me know if the problematic frame is openal
#3014 [22:48] <exp0> basically make it runn where it isn't meant to
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#3016 [22:49] <Bagels> anyone?
#3017 [22:49] <slapsack> yes it is grey
#3018 [22:49] <WACOMalt> well, android is java based, and can do openGL commands basically...
#3019 [22:49] <WACOMalt> perfect platform
#3020 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> It's a benign error, caused by an old version of openAL
#3021 [22:49] <WACOMalt> tegra 2 nvidia dual core processors soon...
#3022 [22:50] <pbc> it would be hard as hell to play minecraft on a cellphone lol
#3023 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> If you'd like to fix it, I can tell you how
#3024 [22:50] <slapsack> yes i would
#3025 [22:50] <slapsack> tell me plz
#3026 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> OS?
#3027 [22:50] <pbc> unless ur usin a touchpad then that would be diffrnt then
#3028 [22:50] <slapsack> xp sp 3
#3029 [22:50] <exp0> pbc, smartphones have touchscreens
#3030 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> go here: http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/Forms/AllItems.aspx
#3031 [22:50] <pbc> iknow that
#3032 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> download the installer for windows
#3033 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> install
#3034 [22:50] <pbc> i mean like a andriod version of ipad
#3035 [22:50] <exp0> which means that playing minecraft isnt that hard
#3036 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> go to your windows/system32 folder
#3037 [22:50] <slapsack> sweet ty
#3038 [22:50] <pbc> duno what u cal them
#3039 [22:51] <pbc> :|
#3040 [22:51] <exp0> you mean a tablet
#3041 [22:51] <pbc> yah
#3042 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> copy the openal file over to %appdata%/.minecraft/bin folder
#3043 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> That'll fix it
#3044 [22:51] <slapsack> nice...ty grey
#3045 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> It may be in /bin/natives
#3046 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> I can't remember
#3047 [22:51] <WACOMalt> there used to be a Jar to APK converter
#3048 [22:51] <WACOMalt> but it fails usually
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#3051 [22:54] <eerr> heeeey
#3052 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#3054 [22:54] <eerr> well, eh
#3055 [22:55] <eerr> this is a lot of people
#3056 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> indeed
#3057 [22:55] <eerr> anyway, over time, I have found that
#3058 [22:56] <eerr> chunk updates (new and old), cause more and more lag with each update
#3059 [22:56] <eerr> It's up to a half second now!
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#3061 [22:56] <eerr> by update, I mean each update notch puts out
#3062 [22:56] <slapsack> grey, copy over the openal .ddl to %appdata%/.minecraft/bin folder ?
#3063 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> or /bin/natives
#3064 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> whereever the original file is
#3065 [22:57] <slapsack> ok
#3066 [22:57] <RayNeedsHelp> i bought the game just now using dibs, but it still says user not premium? why is that?
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#3068 [22:58] <eerr> I don't know what to do about it, I've tried updating windows, my graphics card, even got a ram upgrade
#3069 [22:58] <exp0> I wish I waited to spend my $20 on this.
#3070 [22:59] <eerr> runs fine for most people, I think
#3071 [22:59] <exp0> "fine"
#3072 [22:59] <eerr> also a year ago it was only ten dollars
#3073 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> 10 euros/15 bucks
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#3075 [23:00] <exp0> He said it would get more expensive the closer they got to release date
#3076 [23:00] <eerr> yes
#3077 [23:01] <eerr> also, I've got a shit-ton of the same error over and over again. but previously it never stopped me from playing the game. It just mysteriously appears everytime minecraft closes.
#3078 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Same thing as everybody else
#3079 [23:02] <eerr> aight.
#3080 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> And like I told slapsack, it's openAL
#3081 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> You can fix it by updating openAL if you wish, but it's a benign error
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#3083 [23:02] <slapsack> did it
#3084 [23:02] <slapsack> all done
#3085 [23:02] <slapsack> yay
#3086 [23:03] <exp0> Java just hates windows 7
#3087 [23:03] <Momo> hi... anyone having a maxed out cpu with java since the update today?... im getting like 1 fps now
#3088 [23:03] <eerr> sometimes its atioglxx.dll+0x7c2f0 for me
#3089 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Then it's your ATI drivers
#3090 [23:03] <slapsack> ty for that grey
#3091 [23:03] <exp0> what is your graphics card and cpu?
#3092 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> np
#3093 [23:03] <eerr> It's both then
#3094 [23:03] <exp0> momo?
#3095 [23:03] <RayNeedsHelp> how long does it take for the transaction to go through usind DIBS?
#3096 [23:03] <slapsack> now if icould only fix the usb issue..
#3097 [23:03] <Momo> nvidia 8800 ultra, e6600 oc'ed to 3.2ghz
#3098 [23:04] <slapsack> and it was in natives
#3099 [23:04] * GreyVulpine nods
#3099 [23:04] <exp0> is the driver up to date?
#3100 [23:05] <Momo> yea i was having some crashing issues before the update, went to the latest, got a speed boost, but now after update i get 1 fps lol and javaw.exe is using %100 cpu
#3101 [23:05] <Momo> this is even sitting in the menu
#3102 [23:06] <Momo> deleted .minecraft, it redownloaded, same issue
#3103 [23:06] <eerr> VisionTekRadeon X550, I got the latest update, which is actually a panacea for all the old ATI drivers
#3104 [23:06] <exp0> are you using the latest Java version? I'd suggest doing a quick restart of your computer.
#3105 [23:06] <Momo> version 6 update 23 is my java vers
#3106 [23:06] <Momo> i can try restart
#3107 [23:06] <Momo> brb
#3108 [23:07] <eerr> ehh
#3109 [23:08] <eerr> Will minecraft ever use directx?
#3110 [23:08] <Kealper> probably not
#3111 [23:08] <feenyx> unlikely
#3112 [23:08] <eerr> shit
#3113 [23:08] <feenyx> since directx isn't very cross-platformy-y
#3114 [23:09] <exp0> OpenGL > directx
#3115 [23:09] <eerr> as far as I know, every graphics card producer and their mom has a different implementation of opengl
#3116 [23:09] <eerr> shit sucks
#3117 [23:10] <eerr> sometimes
#3118 [23:10] <eerr> like, the opposite of apple
#3119 [23:10] <exp0> you mean crapple?
#3120 [23:10] <feenyx> and as far as I know, only Microsoft operating systems have implemented DirectX
#3121 [23:11] <eerr> erm
#3122 [23:11] <eerr> yes crapple is the appropriate term
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#3124 [23:12] <eerr> meh, Maybe I'll go defragment and see if that helps.
#3125 [23:13] <exp0> I need to get hyper-v working so I can attempt to dual screen a VM
#3126 [23:14] <eerr> Also, does anyone know how to use ram as hard drive to store the minecraft save?
#3127 [23:15] <eerr> Can't seem to find the thread that mentions how to do that
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#3129 [23:16] <feenyx> I'm pretty sure that's Out of Scope for a game help channel
#3130 [23:17] <exp0> Google it. This isn't an Os modding channel
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#3133 [23:22] <blackcat21> Any forum mods online?
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#3135 [23:23] <feenyx> doesn't the forum list active users?
#3136 [23:24] <jbsam29> umm you people host servers?
#3137 [23:24] <exp0> some do
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#3139 [23:24] <jbsam29> oh ok
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#3145 [23:38] <CruelNoise> heya pup
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#3147 [23:39] <puppy> can anyone help me? I logon to my regular server, and i keep getting disconnected with "Connection Lost - Internal Exception: java.io.EOFException" any ideas?
#3148 [23:39] <puppy> this started today
#3149 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Might need to talk to the server admin. See if anybody else is getting the same thing
#3150 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> If they are, map on the server might be screwed up. If they aren't, your player profile might be screwed up
#3151 [23:40] <puppy> people are playing on it fine with no problems
#3152 [23:40] <puppy> how can i fix my profile?
#3153 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Ask your server admin to delete it in /world/players
#3154 [23:40] <puppy> ill try that
#3155 [23:40] <puppy> thanks
#3156 [23:40] * GreyVulpine nods
#3156 [23:43] <dopeghoti> I think there was a nre release, so admins have to update again
#3157 [23:43] <dopeghoti> the LL update reportedly has been added
#3158 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3159 [23:44] <dopeghoti> testing.
#3160 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> I can get into my server just fine here, don't see a server update
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#3162 [23:46] <|_ocke> hey can you have 2 computers signed into the same minecraft account both logged onto a multiplayer server?
#3163 [23:46] <exp0> try opening minecraft twice and logging in with both'
#3164 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> |_ocke - I don't believe so
#3165 [23:46] <puppy> does anyone have an ip i can test to see if its just my server giving me problems?
#3166 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#3167 [23:46] <dopeghoti> GreyVulpine: I was misinformed.
#3168 [23:47] <|_ocke> well, i have a friend staying with me from from another state and i put it on his laptop using my account
#3169 [23:47] <dopeghoti> I will have the reporter flogged.
#3170 [23:47] <|_ocke> and i was thinking it'd be cool if we could play it multiplayer
#3171 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Flog him extra good for me
#3172 [23:47] <|_ocke> i'm trying to convince him to buy a copy
#3173 [23:47] <exp0> <|_oke, you can only play from 1 place
#3174 [23:47] <|_ocke> I don't actually know any multiplayer servers to log onto really
#3175 [23:48] <|_ocke> that's what i kinda figured
#3176 [23:48] <exp0> It will boot your from the previous client.
#3177 [23:48] <|_ocke> it works with both on single player at the same time
#3178 [23:48] <exp0> $20 is a fairly small price to pay as a 1time fee
#3179 [23:48] <|_ocke> exp0Ꙭ yeah, i bought mine, but he's never heard of the game
#3180 [23:49] <|_ocke> he's digging it so far though </pun>
#3181 [23:49] <exp0> I heard of the game 3 months ago, but I didn't really look into it from the look I saw. a few days ago a friend of mine showed me it during some downtime in college.
#3182 [23:49] <exp0> huge time waster
#3183 [23:49] <|_ocke> i've had it since like, i dunno august or september or something
#3184 [23:49] <exp0> cant wait to get a netbook to play this in class with
#3185 [23:50] <feenyx> netbooks would be less than ideal for this game
#3186 [23:50] <exp0> have you tried?
#3187 [23:50] <feenyx> they don't particularly like heavy java programming
#3188 [23:50] <feenyx> slow cpu's, little memory
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#3190 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> We've had a number of people with netbooks on here who have had problems
#3191 [23:51] <exp0> they have dual core atom processors.
#3192 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Very underpowered
#3193 [23:51] <feenyx> some do, and only just very recently
#3194 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Either their graphics card doesn't support the very basic OpenGL 1.3 standard, or they can't turn the graphics past tiny/fast
#3195 [23:51] <exp0> guess I wont know til I try
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#3197 [23:52] <feenyx> just borrow a netbook from someone and try it out
#3198 [23:52] <feenyx> then spring some extra cash for an ultraportable with a proper cpu (i3 will do nicely) and a gpu
#3199 [23:52] <exp0> I used to play WoW on a 2GB, dual core 1.6GHz laptop with an integrated graphics card. The gameplay was superb, but it was very playable.
#3200 [23:53] <eerr> wasn't?
#3201 [23:53] <exp0> You'd be surprised how much you can do with 2-5 FPS raiding.
#3202 [23:53] <exp0> wasn't* ty for catching that.
#3203 [23:54] <feenyx> if 5fps wouldn't kill me, I'm pretty sure I'd be suicidal enough to accomplish the task myself :p
#3204 [23:54] <eerr> there was a video about a guy playing wow on his iphone, with probably similar fps
#3205 [23:54] <feenyx> it wasn't played on it
#3206 [23:54] <eerr> oh
#3207 [23:54] <feenyx> it was streamed to the iphone's screen
#3208 [23:54] <feenyx> which is still sexy, don't get me wrong
#3209 [23:54] <eerr> hmmmmm
#3210 [23:54] <exp0> he streamed it with a remote connection.
#3211 [23:55] <exp0> I can do the same on my windows box
#3212 [23:55] <feenyx> like vnc, only better :p
#3213 [23:55] <exp0> There is a company making an android app to stream WoW properly to android phones.
#3214 [23:55] <eerr> specifically??
#3215 [23:55] <feenyx> it's really only a matter of rendering the graphics on a remote display as opposed to a local one
#3216 [23:56] <feenyx> obviously, bandwidth also factors in
#3217 [23:56] <eerr> imagine pushing all those tiny buttons on an iphone
#3218 [23:56] <exp0> http://www.gamestring.com/
#3219 [23:56] <exp0> http://adrenalin.gamestring.com/ <-- streaming games
#3220 [23:57] <feenyx> beta in 53 days
#3221 [23:59] <exp0> yup