#1 [00:01] <xNetSand> i think im going to get hit with that java error soon
#2 [00:02] <xNetSand> yep
#3 [00:02] <xNetSand> I got disconnected from his too.
#4 [00:03] <ionface> kuoushi.com drunk night!!!
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#7 [00:07] <xNetSand> so any ideas
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#9 [00:07] <ionface> \o/ nope
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#11 [00:11] <Lorax> http://img19.imageshack.us/i/alotofredstonedelay.gif/ - got it working : looks like this: http://img694.imageshack.us/i/20110122235829.png/
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#13 [00:13] <cfdpipeman> any idea when skin changing will be re-enabled?
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#15 [00:13] <Kealper> soon
#16 [00:14] <cfdpipeman> ok
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#18 [00:15] <treminaor> I've been running a server since a bit before Alpha turned to Beta... I'm currently using SimpleServer v7. Lately, my server has been experiencing massive missing chunks which ruin our level (causing us to revert though backups until we find one without the reverted terrain/missing work). Anyone know what is causing this and how I can fix it?
#19 [00:16] <treminaor> Tunnels become filled, walls of buildings are missing, mountains come back, etc :S
#20 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Chunk corruption is inevitable with long-standing maps, especially when lasting through multiple updates..
#21 [00:16] <treminaor> shit
#22 [00:17] <treminaor> Is it possible to copy/paste from one save to another?
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#24 [00:17] <treminaor> buildings and whatnot
#25 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> With a map editor, sure
#26 [00:18] <treminaor> Would it cause any problems if I took the time to copy/paste some of my buildings from the soon-to-be-recorrupted save to a new save without a chance of corrupting the new save?
#27 [00:19] <Lorax> treminaor: check out mcedit, it allows you to save schamatics so you can just paste structures back in as needed, or will allow you to cut and paste specific chunks
#28 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> ^
#29 [00:19] <treminaor> :O
#30 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> I can recommend MCedit as well
#31 [00:19] <treminaor> will-do, thanks guys
#32 [00:20] <xNetSand> find out anything grey?
#33 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope, getsatisfaction is filled with stuff like this.
#34 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Trying to wade through the reports of non-atheros NICs is hard
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#36 [00:22] <xNetSand> thanks anyway.
#37 [00:23] <treminaor> Oh, I have one more question: I don't know if you are familiar with the SimpleServer wrapper but I have told it to load in craftbukkit so that I can use plugins such as MyWarp and WorldEdit... When I initialize my server, it shows the plugins are loaded and it generates the permission files etc, but I can't use any commands (ie "no such commands"). Any ideas?
#38 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I'm not familiar with craftbukkit at all, and last I heard, it wasn't even close to finished..
#39 [00:24] <treminaor> I know it's still under heavy development, but it still has been reported as working
#40 [00:24] <treminaor> hmm. alright well I'll assume it isn't anything I can fix atm.
#41 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Officially, this channel doesn't provide support for mods. You may have better luck in #bukkit or other respective channels
#42 [00:24] <treminaor> alright, thanks
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#52 [00:40] <Azu> weird technical question: is there some way to fix a server not saving wool/log values upon block placement
#53 [00:41] <Azu> my logs are reverting to normal tree texture
#54 [00:41] <Azu> and my wool is reverting to white
#55 [00:41] <Azu> like, a tenth of a second after placing them
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#57 [00:56] <Azu> oh! http://bugs.bukkit.org/issues/275
#58 [00:56] * Azu solves issue :|
#58 [00:57] <wutz> is anybody who i talked to earlier still here?
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#60 [00:58] <Xaviergmail> when port forwarding.. its TCP right?
#61 [00:58] <xolotl> Xaviergmail: yes
#62 [00:58] <Xaviergmail> kk :D
#63 [00:59] <Xaviergmail> ty XD
#64 [00:59] <xolotl> np
#65 [00:59] <Xaviergmail> bau'
#66 [00:59] <Xaviergmail> bai*
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#76 [01:27] <KillSpammer> Welcome aetherian
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#79 [01:27] <Fantleas> Hello
#80 [01:27] <KillSpammer> HEy
#81 [01:27] <KillSpammer> Ok
#82 [01:27] <KillSpammer> First
#83 [01:28] <KillSpammer> YOu download the server software from minecraft.net
#84 [01:28] <jdodson99> Can anyone help me with a hidden redstone switch?
#85 [01:28] <KillSpammer> Jdodson99 SMP?
#86 [01:28] <jdodson99> I can't get the inverter to work right
#87 [01:28] <Fantleas> The .jar one?
#88 [01:28] <Fantleas> Or the .exe
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#90 [01:28] <KillSpammer> Depending on the os
#91 [01:28] <Fantleas> My VPS server is linux
#92 [01:28] <KillSpammer> .jar then
#93 [01:28] <jdodson99> Killspammer, SMP.
#94 [01:28] <Fantleas> Okay
#95 [01:28] <KillSpammer> Put it on your server and such
#96 [01:28] <KillSpammer> Foward the port 25565
#97 [01:29] <jdodson99> Wait, me or someone else?
#98 [01:29] <Fantleas> Me
#99 [01:29] <jdodson99> Because I need help with redstone :/ xD
#100 [01:29] <Fantleas> ^
#101 [01:29] <jdodson99> OIC
#102 [01:29] <KillSpammer> DOn't edit the server.properities's Ip thingy
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#104 [01:29] <Fantleas> KillSpammer
#105 [01:29] <KillSpammer> Just leave everything as it is for now
#106 [01:29] <Fantleas> Can we have Private Chat?
#107 [01:29] <KillSpammer> Jdodson99 ip?
#108 [01:29] <Spy_crab> hello
#109 [01:30] <Spy_crab> i need help
#110 [01:30] <KillSpammer> What with?
#111 [01:30] <Spy_crab> every time i open minecraft in browser it crashes
#112 [01:30] <Spy_crab> and closes browser
#113 [01:31] <KillSpammer> Use the downloaded the client then?
#114 [01:31] <Spy_crab> where?
#115 [01:31] <KillSpammer> jdodson99, Ip?
#116 [01:31] <jdodson99> Killspammer, 173.216.1.66
#117 [01:31] <Spy_crab> ?
#118 [01:31] <KillSpammer> http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#119 [01:31] <jdodson99> I was trying one other thing but it still didnt work
#120 [01:31] <Spy_crab> thnx
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#122 [01:32] <KillSpammer> Lol jdodson99 remember me on your server?
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#126 [01:39] <KillSpammer> WAY to laggy jdodson99
#127 [01:39] <KillSpammer> Anyway i put down a repeater for future reference
#128 [01:39] <KillSpammer> Mmk
#129 [01:39] <KillSpammer> So your door should work now
#130 [01:39] <jdodson99> Cool.
#131 [01:40] <KillSpammer> K
#132 [01:40] <KillSpammer> Tell me if you haz future problem
#133 [01:40] <KillSpammer> s
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#135 [01:41] <Mathuin> Can I get help with the Minecraft Forums here? Specifically, I want to post an image but I don't quite know how.
#136 [01:41] <KillSpammer> Mathuin its BBcode so you use [img]Imglink[img]
#137 [01:41] <KillSpammer> I think
#138 [01:41] <KillSpammer> Just google BBcode tutorial
#139 [01:42] <Mathuin> KillSpammer: the image I want to post is on my desktop, not out on the web.
#140 [01:43] <KillSpammer> Well
#141 [01:43] <KillSpammer> You can use imgur for it
#142 [01:43] <KillSpammer> Since you can't upload unless you upload it as an attachment
#143 [01:45] <Mathuin> Ah, and then the imgur link goes in the img tags.
#144 [01:51] <KillSpammer> Yes
#145 [01:51] <KillSpammer> Win :)
#146 [01:52] <Mathuin> Keen.
#147 [01:52] <Mathuin> However, I think my image is too big. How do I scale it down?
#148 [01:52] <Mathuin> http://i.imgur.com/NqoVs.jpg btw
#149 [01:52] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#150 [01:52] <KillSpammer> Google BBcode how to shrink an image
#151 [01:52] <KillSpammer> I can't i haz slownet
#152 [01:53] <Mathuin> hehe, okay, thanks
#153 [01:53] <Spy_crab> RANDOM POTATO
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#157 [01:54] <KillSpammer> :O
#158 [01:55] <Spy_crab> ?
#159 [01:55] <KillSpammer> <Spy_crab> RANDOM POTATO ?
#160 [01:55] <Spy_crab> ?
#161 [01:56] <Spy_crab> RANDOM FISH
#162 [01:56] * xales kicked Spy_crab from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: RANDOM KICK)
#163 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> damnit xales
#164 [01:56] <Mathuin> I tried, it failed.
#165 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> I wanted to do that... -.-
#166 [01:57] <xales> you can do it next time
#167 [01:57] <xales> :)
#168 [01:57] <xales> he is in #lobby being an idiot too >.>
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#170 [01:58] <xales> inb4 akick
#171 [01:58] <Spy_crab> srry b4 and bai i aplogize
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#173 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Speaking of akicks..
#174 [01:58] <xales> Indeed
#175 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Weren't you supposed to clean up #minecraft's list?
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#177 [01:59] <KillSpammer> Global clean?
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#179 [02:00] <xales> Uhh...I was?
#180 [02:00] <xales> I said I would write a script at some point to do it
#181 [02:00] <xales> Problem is, I don't know what 90% of the bans are
#182 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> Well then
#183 [02:02] <aetherian> oi, who pinged me...
#184 [02:02] <xales> I did
#185 [02:02] <KillSpammer> I did
#186 [02:02] <KillSpammer> Ages ago
#187 [02:02] <aetherian> ah
#188 [02:02] <aetherian> jus' wonderin'
#189 [02:03] <aetherian> omigod this setting is creepy
#190 [02:04] <aetherian> transparent background for irc...
#191 [02:05] <KillSpammer> Erm..
#192 [02:05] <KillSpammer> I wonder if i can do that in xchat
#193 [02:05] <aetherian> what?
#194 [02:05] <aetherian> yes
#195 [02:05] <aetherian> I run xchat
#196 [02:05] <KillSpammer> Wher?
#197 [02:05] <aetherian> that's what I did it in.
#198 [02:06] <aetherian> preferences
#199 [02:06] <aetherian> text boc
#200 [02:06] <aetherian> box
#201 [02:06] <aetherian> "Transparent background"
#202 [02:06] <aetherian> and I gotta brb
#203 [02:06] <KillSpammer> AHH!?
#204 [02:06] <aetherian> ikr
#205 [02:06] <KillSpammer> Woah
#206 [02:06] <KillSpammer> Set your background black :S
#207 [02:06] <aetherian> lol
#208 [02:07] <aetherian> brb
#209 [02:07] <KillSpammer> Lol it goes straight through minecraft
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#211 [02:07] <KillSpammer> To the background
#212 [02:08] <aetherian> back
#213 [02:08] * xales has pseudotransparecy on his terminal
#213 [02:08] * xales and therefor, his IRC
#213 [02:08] <aetherian> yes, spammer, it's an xray machine
#214 [02:08] <aetherian> geddit? xchat/xray
#215 [02:08] <aetherian> heh
#216 [02:10] <aetherian> ono
#217 [02:10] <aetherian> not aids!
#218 [02:14] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#219 [02:14] <KillSpammer> Lol
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#221 [02:16] <xales> !check 68.149.55.29
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#224 [02:16] <aetherian> lovely
#225 [02:16] <Checkzor> Alright I believe I have forwarded all of my ports correctly, would someone mind trying to connect to my server? 68.149.55.29:25565
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#227 [02:16] <xales> Checkzor: I checked it, it worked
#228 [02:16] <Fantleas> test
#229 [02:16] <xales> or at least, the port forward did.
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#231 [02:17] <xales> Fantleas: test failed :P
#232 [02:17] <Checkzor> In the console, I got this
#233 [02:17] <Fantleas> (XD)
#234 [02:17] <Checkzor> 2011-01-23 00:16:46 [INFO] Disconnecting /127.0.0.1:59095: Took too long to log in
#235 [02:17] <xales> Checkzor: Is that when you try to connect?
#236 [02:17] <Checkzor> When you did.
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#238 [02:17] <xales> Checkzor: Uhh..it shouldn't say that, but ok.
#239 [02:18] <Checkzor> hmm, would someone else please try?
#240 [02:18] <xales> Unless the times on our computers differ greatly, the timestamps don't match up
#241 [02:18] <Checkzor> Just to verify.
#242 [02:18] <xales> If it worked for the bot, it will work for everyone
#243 [02:19] <KillSpammer> !check 127.0.0.1:5909
#244 [02:19] <KillSpammer> Lol
#245 [02:19] <KillSpammer> Look what his ip is?
#246 [02:19] <Checkzor> you sure it worked, because my friend would connect, then disconnect part way through
#247 [02:20] <Checkzor> Maybe the bot senses it is working when it really isn't.
#248 [02:20] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#249 [02:21] <KillSpammer> 127.0.0.1 is a local address
#250 [02:21] <KillSpammer> It redirects towards your computer
#251 [02:21] <xales> Checkzor: The bot only checks port forwards
#252 [02:21] <Checkzor> Oh, would someone mind actually connecting?
#253 [02:21] <xales> if your friend disconnects, it should have an error. What was the error?
#254 [02:21] <HoboPickle> what's the bot coded in? curious.
#255 [02:21] <Checkzor> Can't remember.
#256 [02:22] <xales> HoboPickle: Stupid AutoIt ._.
#257 [02:22] <HoboPickle> ehhhh?
#258 [02:22] <xales> Not my bot, not my choice of language...but whatever
#259 [02:22] <HoboPickle> on what client?
#260 [02:22] <KillSpammer> http://whatsmyip.org
#261 [02:22] <xales> HoboPickle: Not on a client, pure autoit
#262 [02:22] <xales> KillSpammer: He knows his IP, it works fine.
#263 [02:22] <HoboPickle> damn, i thought autoit was just a macro script engine thingie.
#264 [02:22] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#265 [02:22] <KillSpammer> SLAP ME!
#266 [02:22] <Checkzor> 68.149.55.29:25565
#267 [02:22] <Checkzor> Try connecting to there
#268 [02:23] <xales> HoboPickle: It is. But it has an interpreter, not embedded in other apps
#269 [02:23] <KillSpammer> Connected HoboPickle
#270 [02:23] <HoboPickle> impossible, my smp server is down. >:|
#271 [02:23] <Checkzor> thanks kill
#272 [02:23] <Checkzor> goodie
#273 [02:24] <Checkzor> It works
#274 [02:24] <Checkzor> Appreciate it killspammer
#275 [02:24] <KillSpammer> Np
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#277 [02:24] <Checkzor> time to put this thing is a vm and dedicate 8 gigs to it and leave it untouched :)
#278 [02:24] <Checkzor> then i have 12 gigs left for my general computer use
#279 [02:25] <HoboPickle> way to brag.
#280 [02:25] <aetherian> heh
#281 [02:25] <aetherian> only twenty gigabytes
#282 [02:25] <Checkzor> my connection will limit the amount of people though
#283 [02:25] <Checkzor> server motherboard :P
#284 [02:25] <sinedeviance> hi all
#285 [02:25] <HoboPickle> what do you work as?
#286 [02:25] <Checkzor> how many people can connect safley with 30megabits down and 4 megabits up
#287 [02:25] <Checkzor> ?
#288 [02:26] <sinedeviance> Checkzor: uh ... as many as you want, really
#289 [02:26] <sinedeviance> at least 50 people
#290 [02:26] <sinedeviance> i ran 10 on 512k up
#291 [02:26] <Checkzor> oo
#292 [02:26] <sinedeviance> a little laggy, but nothing major
#293 [02:26] <Checkzor> good, I got the ram covered and the connection covered
#294 [02:26] <sinedeviance> how much RAM?
#295 [02:26] <sinedeviance> and what kind of CPU?
#296 [02:26] <Checkzor> 8 gigs dedicated to ther server
#297 [02:26] <Checkzor> in a vm
#298 [02:26] <Checkzor> hexacore I7
#299 [02:26] <sinedeviance> this a VPS, or your own box?
#300 [02:27] <Checkzor> my main computer
#301 [02:27] <Checkzor> The server will be ran in a vm
#302 [02:27] <sinedeviance> uh... so wait, you're running the server on non-dedicated hardwarE?
#303 [02:27] <Checkzor> No my comp will be on 24/7
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#305 [02:27] <Checkzor> I have 20 gigs total ram
#306 [02:27] <sinedeviance> doesn't matter
#307 [02:27] <Checkzor> 8 dedicated to the vm running minecraft
#308 [02:27] <sinedeviance> you're still using it :D
#309 [02:27] <Checkzor> true :p
#310 [02:27] <Checkzor> but it should be able to handle it
#311 [02:28] <sinedeviance> best server = headless, runs in a corner, linux.
#312 [02:28] <Checkzor> also have 2 cores dedicated the the vm as well
#313 [02:28] <sinedeviance> D:
#314 [02:28] <sinedeviance> well
#315 [02:28] <Checkzor> so I'm still worried about connection
#316 [02:28] <sinedeviance> to be fair, you could run that VM and still play crysis on full settings
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#318 [02:28] <mejile12> hello
#319 [02:28] <mejile12> ...
#320 [02:28] <sinedeviance> Checkzor: is it a home connection?
#321 [02:28] <Checkzor> it is
#322 [02:28] <mejile12> I need some help
#323 [02:28] <sinedeviance> if it is, latency is always going to be an issue
#324 [02:28] <Checkzor> 30 megabits down 4 up
#325 [02:28] <sinedeviance> home connections always have higher latency
#326 [02:28] <mejile12> Daniel @ mohang hasnt responded to me
#327 [02:28] <Checkzor> Thats what I have been thinking
#328 [02:28] <mejile12> IS there ANYONe else
#329 [02:29] <mejile12> who CAN
#330 [02:29] <sinedeviance> yeah
#331 [02:29] <mejile12> HELP ME
#332 [02:29] <xales> mejile12: With?
#333 [02:29] <sinedeviance> unless you have a dedicated tier 2 or better connection, you're gonna have latency
#334 [02:29] <Checkzor> if someone far away would like to join the server to test the lag i would appreciate it
#335 [02:29] <Checkzor> I'm up in canada
#336 [02:29] <Checkzor> So if your from southern us or europe, I'd like you to test the lag
#337 [02:29] <sinedeviance> if you want a better connection, build yourself a dedicated server and pay a VPS company to host it for you
#338 [02:29] <sinedeviance> you basically rent rackspace
#339 [02:29] <sinedeviance> and the connection
#340 [02:30] <Checkzor> Yeah don't feel like paying money
#341 [02:30] <xales> VPS company?
#342 [02:30] <xales> you mean colocation company :P
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#344 [02:30] <sinedeviance> xales: most VPS hosts do co-lo
#345 [02:30] <xales> Not that I've seen =\
#346 [02:30] <sinedeviance> and it's hard to find companies that ONLY do co-lo
#347 [02:30] <sinedeviance> at least in north america
#348 [02:30] <Checkzor> Stress testing the server :p
#349 [02:30] <Checkzor> exploded 64 tnt
#350 [02:30] <Checkzor> to see what would happen
#351 [02:30] <sinedeviance> Checkzor: you'll be fine man
#352 [02:30] <Checkzor> Alright cool
#353 [02:31] <sinedeviance> i used to run my server on a 2.6ghz celeron w/ 1gb of RAM.
#354 [02:31] <Checkzor> anyone want to help stress test with me :P
#355 [02:31] <sinedeviance> that was back when it was alpha 1.2.6, but still
#356 [02:31] <KillSpammer> DANCE?!
#357 [02:31] <KillSpammer> Someone sing a song
#358 [02:31] <sinedeviance> it was slow to load the world, but once the world loaded it was fine
#359 [02:31] <Checkzor> well i got a single core hosting the vm to spike to 12% with 64 tnt
#360 [02:32] <sinedeviance> when biomes came out they did add to the requirements
#361 [02:32] <sinedeviance> Checkzor: lol. that kind of explosion would disconnect all clients on my server :D
#362 [02:32] <Checkzor> :p
#363 [02:32] <Checkzor> 68.149.55.29:25565
#364 [02:32] <Checkzor> hop on
#365 [02:32] <sinedeviance> but it would bounce right back
#366 [02:32] <sinedeviance> nah, cant
#367 [02:32] <sinedeviance> i'm tethering my cellphone
#368 [02:33] <sinedeviance> i moved recently and dont have proper internet yet
#369 [02:33] <Checkzor> ooo
#370 [02:33] <Checkzor> got it to crash
#371 [02:33] <Checkzor> 100% cpu
#372 [02:33] <Checkzor> 1000 tnt
#373 [02:33] <Checkzor> :<
#374 [02:33] <sinedeviance> lol. nice one.
#375 [02:33] <sinedeviance> thats probably more the code than the hardware
#376 [02:33] <Checkzor> yeah
#377 [02:33] <Checkzor> lol 3 gigs of ram
#378 [02:33] <Checkzor> 100% cpu on the 1 core
#379 [02:33] <sinedeviance> as i said, mine handled at least a few hundred tnt explosions without crashing
#380 [02:33] <Checkzor> I'm put it back to 2 cores
#381 [02:33] <Checkzor> see what happens
#382 [02:34] <sinedeviance> it would just slow down for about 10 seconds
#383 [02:34] <sinedeviance> i could run a fairly decent non-dedicated server in a VM on this box
#384 [02:35] <Checkzor> alright anyone up for tnt stress tests
#385 [02:35] <Checkzor> 68.149.55.29:25565
#386 [02:35] <Checkzor> you knwo you want to :P
#387 [02:36] <SinZ> i know i don't want to fuck my game
#388 [02:36] <Checkzor> holy crater
#389 [02:37] <Checkzor> DAMN
#390 [02:37] <Mathuin> What *I* want is to figure out the equations that will give me the coordinates of a point closest to a particular lat/long given the corners of the dataset and the size.
#391 [02:37] <Checkzor> 5+2
#392 [02:37] <Checkzor> x=5+2
#393 [02:37] <Checkzor> Have fun
#394 [02:38] <Mathuin> I figured out the equations to get the lat/long of a point given its coordinates and the corners and size of the dataset.
#395 [02:39] <KillSpammer> SinZ!
#396 [02:39] <KillSpammer> I have slow net
#397 [02:40] <Checkzor> Was TNT always this fun?
#398 [02:40] <KillSpammer> Maybe
#399 [02:41] <Checkzor> could not have been because I am having a great time
#400 [02:41] <Checkzor> even a little 3x3x3 cube of tnt is great
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#402 [02:44] <KillSpammer> Checkzor I prefer replacing dirt with tnt
#403 [02:44] <KillSpammer> I mean
#404 [02:44] <KillSpammer> tnt with dirt
#405 [02:45] <Mathuin> No, dirt with TNT is what you meant, if you're using a server editor.
#406 [02:45] <Mathuin> THough I don't know why, because what would be left? bedrock? adminium?
#407 [02:46] <KillSpammer> Stone
#408 [02:46] <KillSpammer> Lol
#409 [02:46] <KillSpammer> Actually
#410 [02:46] <KillSpammer> GRASS With tnt
#411 [02:46] <Mathuin> Trees?
#412 [02:46] <Mathuin> The forest that shook.
#413 [02:46] <Checkzor> lol
#414 [02:46] <Mathuin> No, you were on a good thread with grass. Leaves. Go with leaves.
#415 [02:47] <Checkzor> Btw did you try my equation
#416 [02:47] <Checkzor> It should have worked.
#417 [02:47] <Checkzor> NOOO
#418 [02:47] <Checkzor> a creeper set off my 100x100 block of tnt
#419 [02:48] <Mathuin> Checkzor: what I have for the latitude equation is this: Lat = ULLat + X * (URLat - ULLat)/(XSize - 1) + Y * (LLLat - ULLat)/(YSize - 1)
#420 [02:48] <Checkzor> looks good
#421 [02:51] <Mathuin> But how do I get X and Y given Lat and Long?!
#422 [02:51] <Checkzor> dunno
#423 [02:51] <Mathuin> I have equations assuming the dataset is square, but I don't know how to correct for not-square.
#424 [02:52] <Checkzor> And I have no idea how to help you lol
#425 [02:52] <Checkzor> Like a chicken trying find a lion a mouse.
#426 [02:52] <Checkzor> That metaphor sounded better in my head..
#427 [02:53] <KillSpammer> I know
#428 [02:53] <KillSpammer> I think
#429 [02:53] <KillSpammer> YOu should just commit suicide :S
#430 [02:53] <KillSpammer> LOl
#431 [02:53] <KillSpammer> Becuz i can't figure it out
#432 [02:53] <KillSpammer> And have no idea what yout talking about
#433 [02:53] <Mathuin> Imagine you have graph paper, and you poke it with a pencil. You can figure out the nearest point on the graph paper to the pencil dot pretty easily, right?
#434 [02:53] <Checkzor> K
#435 [02:54] <Mathuin> Now assume your graph paper is squashed like a parallelogram instead of being square.
#436 [02:54] <Checkzor> k
#437 [02:56] <Mathuin> Now how do you do it?
#438 [02:56] <Checkzor> k
#439 [02:56] <Checkzor> Lol
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#441 [02:56] <Mathuin> The square graph paper one is easy. X = round((Lat - ULLat)/((URLat - ULLat)/(XSize - 1))
#442 [02:56] <Checkzor> k
#443 [02:56] <Mathuin> Basically, what portion of the distance to the right are you of the whole.
#444 [02:57] <Mathuin> I _think_ I have an adjustment for the non-squareness.
#445 [02:57] <Fantleas> Umm...
#446 [02:57] <Checkzor> k
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#448 [02:57] <Fantleas> I just set up my Minecraft Server on linux
#449 [02:57] <Fantleas> VPS
#450 [02:57] <Mathuin> Fantleas: yay! did it work?
#451 [02:57] <Fantleas> Let me test :D
#452 [02:57] <Checkzor> Mines on linux, but on a vm on my machine :P
#453 [02:57] <Checkzor> You and your fancy vps
#454 [02:57] <Checkzor> >_>
#455 [02:58] <Checkzor> I'll test for you fant :P
#456 [02:58] <Fantleas> How? lol
#457 [02:58] <Checkzor> umm
#458 [02:58] <Fantleas> Do I just give you the IP?
#459 [02:58] <Checkzor> ip?
#460 [02:58] <Checkzor> Yeah
#461 [02:58] <Checkzor> ip and port
#462 [02:58] <Fantleas> Okay
#463 [02:58] <Mathuin> And port if it's not the default.
#464 [02:58] <Fantleas> Oh
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#466 [02:59] <Fantleas> What is the port?
#467 [02:59] <Fantleas> I did not set up anything of that
#468 [02:59] <Fantleas> D:
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#470 [02:59] <Mathuin> If you didn't set the port, don't worry, try without.
#471 [02:59] <Mathuin> Just the bare IP then.
#472 [02:59] <Fantleas> kk
#473 [02:59] <Checkzor> give me ip!
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#475 [03:00] <Checkzor> killspammer, are you having issues?
#476 [03:00] <Checkzor> wow I typed that as he disconnected
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#478 [03:00] <Fantleas> Should be zeatnolt.com OR 67.23.228.110
#479 [03:00] <Fantleas> It is working I think
#480 [03:01] <Fantleas> come here :D
#481 [03:02] <KillSpammer> !check zeatnolt.com
#482 [03:02] <Fantleas> is it working? lol
#483 [03:02] <KillSpammer> YEP!
#484 [03:02] <Checkzor> it's me
#485 [03:02] <KillSpammer> Workin
#486 [03:02] <KillSpammer> Good work
#487 [03:02] <Fantleas> :D
#488 [03:02] <KillSpammer> *brofist*
#489 [03:03] <Mathuin> Celebrate by blowing something up!
#490 [03:03] <Checkzor> I trapped him
#491 [03:03] <KillSpammer> ^
#492 [03:03] <Checkzor> in a hole..
#493 [03:03] <Checkzor> :P
#494 [03:05] <Fantleas> What's the linux command to turn the server off? lol
#495 [03:05] <xales> depends on how you launched it
#496 [03:05] <KillSpammer> Stop
#497 [03:07] <Fantleas> I launched it via SSH
#498 [03:07] <Fantleas> Console
#499 [03:07] <Fantleas> Launched it via non-root user
#500 [03:07] <Fantleas> Because people said it was dangerous, lol.
#501 [03:08] <Fantleas> Used this
#502 [03:08] <Fantleas> java -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
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#506 [03:10] <Donny> Could someone tell me how to get texture packs and mods onto a server please?
#507 [03:10] <xales> Donny: Texture packs don't go on the server
#508 [03:10] <xales> they are client specific
#509 [03:10] <Donny> Damn.
#510 [03:11] <xales> Fantleas: If you launched it that way, you should still be in the server's console and can just run 'stop' i believe
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#512 [03:14] <Fantleas> Oh
#513 [03:14] <Fantleas> True true
#514 [03:14] <Fantleas> And damn, there should be something that forced clients to have a certain texture pack in order to connect.
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#516 [03:17] <Checkzor> Hey xales, how do I register my nickname on the main #minecraft channel
#517 [03:17] <Fantleas> I know how.
#518 [03:17] <xales> /ns register password email
#519 [03:17] <Checkzor> ty
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#521 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Woooo.. 200 more freakin stalker kills till I reach lev 6 in KF
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#523 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> Yum bacon.
#524 [03:23] * bacon uses the power of food poisoning and jumps into the mouth of GreyVulpine
#524 [03:24] * KillSpammer Eats GreyVulpine
#524 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> O.o
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#526 [03:24] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, now you eat me
#527 [03:25] * KillSpammer eats GreyVulpine... again
#527 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> But.. wouldn't that cause a causality loop and tear a fabric in the space-time continuum?
#528 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> s/fabric/hole
#529 [03:26] * KillSpammer eats the scar in the universe
#529 [03:26] * KillSpammer divides 3 by 0
#529 [03:26] * KillSpammer then eats the other scar
#529 [03:26] * KillSpammer I EAT ALL!
#529 [03:26] * GreyVulpine watches universe 'splode
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#530 [03:26] * KillSpammer Eats the universe and conserves it
#530 [03:27] * KillSpammer Burps out GreyVulpine
#530 [03:27] * KillSpammer Floats around in a imagination land
#530 [03:27] * KillSpammer creates a new universe
#530 [03:27] <KillSpammer> THE UNIVERSE OF Trothan is born
#531 [03:27] <Fantleas> Hai
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#533 [03:27] <Fantleas> Is 25565 the right port for my server?
#534 [03:27] * KillSpammer gives GreyVulpine and himself some epic looking gear and swords
#534 [03:27] <KillSpammer> Ohwait
#535 [03:27] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, what class are you?
#536 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Fantleas -Yes
#537 [03:28] <Fantleas> Okay, thanks.
#538 [03:28] <KillSpammer> Mage, Rouge, Warrior?
#539 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> KillSpammer - Depends on the system
#540 [03:28] <KillSpammer> I'm Warrior
#541 [03:28] <Donny> Can someone tell me how to put mods into single player and on the server also?
#542 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> rouge.. heh
#543 [03:28] * KillSpammer passes GreyVulpine some nice leather armour and 2 daggers
#543 [03:28] * KillSpammer mmk
#543 [03:28] <KillSpammer> Ok i'll generate some enemys
#544 [03:28] <KillSpammer> Ohshit
#545 [03:28] <KillSpammer> Crap i generated the entire world
#546 [03:28] <KillSpammer> Can't delete yet
#547 [03:29] <KillSpammer> Must get orb of epicness
#548 [03:29] <KillSpammer> Ok
#549 [03:29] <KillSpammer> I guess we are gonna have to plow through these enemys
#550 [03:29] <KillSpammer> By "we" i mean you
#551 [03:29] <xales> enemies
#552 [03:29] <xales> :P
#553 [03:29] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#553 [03:29] <KillSpammer> OH WAIT
#554 [03:29] * KillSpammer burps out xales
#554 [03:29] <KillSpammer> Ok
#555 [03:29] <KillSpammer> Uhh
#556 [03:29] <KillSpammer> What do you want to be?
#557 [03:29] <Fantleas> Once I made myself Op in my server via Console will I be able to use all the other console cmds in-game?
#558 [03:29] <KillSpammer> Or shall we use you as an distraction
#559 [03:29] * GreyVulpine uses potion of +30 bluff to sneak past all guards
#559 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> Fantleas - Yes
#560 [03:29] * KillSpammer burps out bacon
#560 [03:30] <Fantleas> :D
#561 [03:30] <Fantleas> So now I can close console and the server will continue running? :o
#562 [03:30] * KillSpammer throws bacon down a cliff and all the goblins run off chasing it
#562 [03:30] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#563 [03:30] <KillSpammer> That worked
#564 [03:30] * KillSpammer gets on his 310 bonus speed mount
#564 [03:30] <KillSpammer> VRMM...
#565 [03:30] <xales> Fantleas: only if you ran it in screen or similar
#566 [03:30] <KillSpammer> Ahh the orb of epicness
#567 [03:30] <Fantleas> D:
#568 [03:30] * KillSpammer picks up Orb of epicness
#568 [03:31] <Fantleas> I ran it via nogui (SSH)
#569 [03:31] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#570 [03:31] <KillSpammer> Crap
#571 [03:31] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, why do you have it
#572 [03:31] <Fantleas> How could I run it via screen? :S
#573 [03:31] <KillSpammer> Now your the owner of the everything...
#574 [03:31] <KillSpammer> Ugh..
#575 [03:31] <KillSpammer> Control the world then
#576 [03:31] <Fantleas> My server is a VPS and is not in my PC D:
#577 [03:31] <xales> Fantleas: `man screen'
#578 [03:31] <xales> run that
#579 [03:31] <xales> I know it is :)
#580 [03:32] <KillSpammer> Roleplaying is fun
#581 [03:32] <Fantleas> ok, the mc server is already running, do I stop it first?
#582 [03:32] <xales> Yes
#583 [03:32] <KillSpammer> You stop it
#584 [03:32] <Fantleas> Okay
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#587 [03:37] <Solvius> mornin
#588 [03:37] <Fantleas> alright
#589 [03:37] <Fantleas> xales
#590 [03:37] <Fantleas> I stopped my server
#591 [03:37] <Fantleas> and typed
#592 [03:37] <Fantleas> "man screen
#593 [03:37] <Fantleas> "
#594 [03:37] <Fantleas> Now what? 0:
#595 [03:37] <xales> read the documentation
#596 [03:37] <Fantleas> Oh damn D:
#597 [03:37] <xales> man = manpages = manual
#598 [03:38] <Fantleas> ok lol
#599 [03:38] <Fantleas> Well, I will do that in 30 mins.
#600 [03:38] <Fantleas> I will first test the server in the nogui
#601 [03:40] <Fantleas> Nvm, screen thingie looks easy to do.
#602 [03:40] <Fantleas> Reading...
#603 [03:41] <SinZ> btw, on eclipse, how do you change author name
#604 [03:41] <SinZ> because its a fucked up name for me
#605 [03:42] <SinZ> shit
#606 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> http://mhashem.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/change-author-name-in-eclipse/
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#609 [03:44] <SinZ> hmm
#610 [03:44] <Donny> How can I use mods on my MP server?
#611 [03:44] <SinZ> #bukkit
#612 [03:46] <Fantleas> Yay :D
#613 [03:46] <Fantleas> I just did it.
#614 [03:46] <Fantleas> Wasn't so hard.
#615 [03:47] <xales> Donny: Depends on the mod, unfortunately we don't support modding in here.
#616 [03:47] <Fantleas> Oh, good that you mention it. I was about to ask something about that soon, lol.
#617 [03:47] <Donny> Damn. Alright. I guess I'll poke around a bit. Thanks anyways.
#618 [03:49] <Fantleas> When I do /save-on is it supposed to say: "(Fantleas: Enabling level saving..)" and just that? No "Done" message or anything?
#619 [03:50] <xales> Safe-on just enables saving, I think...
#620 [03:50] <xales> save*
#621 [03:50] <Fantleas> Yes.
#622 [03:50] * GreyVulpine nods
#622 [03:51] <Fantleas> What I mean is like it doesn't confirm it was activated successfully o.o
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#633 [04:23] <Fantleas> ._.
#634 [04:23] <xales> ._.
#635 [04:23] <Fantleas> :D
#636 [04:23] <Fantleas> What IRC Client are you using? :P
#637 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> You can /ctcp name version to get it
#638 [04:26] <xales> example: /ctcp xales VERSION
#639 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> Just don't spam it, or bad things happen
#640 [04:27] <xales> ^
#641 [04:27] <Fantleas> Oh I see.
#642 [04:27] <Fantleas> I don't use IRC much.
#643 [04:27] <xales> it will (generally) respond with a client name
#644 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> It's alright, questions are welcome here.
#645 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> I've been IRCing for.. wow, a really long time.
#646 [04:27] <Fantleas> Thanks :)
#647 [04:28] <Fantleas> And yeah, I've always thought IRC is awesome. :D
#648 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> Think I started around the time I joined MUDs..
#649 [04:29] <TheReddeH> morning fleeple
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#651 [04:30] <xales> GreyVulpine: I still have on my list of to-dos related to Esper...
#652 [04:30] <xales> bother ircops about sponsoring a server
#653 [04:30] <xales> =\
#654 [04:31] <xales> aparrantly some Minecraft people want to do that
#655 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, okay
#656 [04:32] * GreyVulpine hmms... wonders if.
#656 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> Hah, mIRC/Invision still has a script to /ctcp everybody on the channel for !list and @find
#657 [04:33] * GreyVulpine quietly removes that part.
#657 [04:35] <xales> built in?
#658 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> invision does, yeah
#659 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> script for fservs and such, as well as other stuff
#660 [04:35] * xales makes mental note to not use invision
#660 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> If you wanted to run an fserv... invision *was* one of the good ones to run
#661 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> back in like the 90s
#662 [04:36] <xales> what is the in-channel trigger for fservs these days?
#663 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> I believe it hasn't changed
#664 [04:36] <Merciless> ok what did that do
#665 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> Still !list and @find
#666 [04:36] <Merciless> ah it saved my world to a folder
#667 [04:36] <Merciless> useful
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#669 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> Heh, whoops
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#671 [04:45] <aetherian> well well uh
#672 [04:45] <aetherian> night guys
#673 [04:46] <aetherian> big day tomorrow
#674 [04:46] <aetherian> today*
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#676 [04:50] * GreyVulpine yawns
#676 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> !chuck
#677 [04:51] <xales> that bot does it now too? :(
#678 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#679 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> O.o
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#681 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. well then
#682 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> I thought that was my bot
#683 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> !chuck
#684 [04:53] <GreyBot> Guantuanamo Bay, Cuba, is the military code-word for "Chuck Norris' basement".
#685 [04:53] <lukegb> LOL
#686 [04:53] <lukegb> !chuck
#687 [04:53] <GreyBot> Staring at Chuck Norris for extended periods of time without proper eye protection will cause blindess, and possibly foot sized brusies on the face.
#688 [04:53] <lukegb> GreyVulpine: repeat! GreyBot vs AuBot! :P
#689 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> pfft
#690 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> !dnd
#691 [04:54] <GreyBot> Things Mr. Welch can no longer do during an RPG, number 846. Doesn't matter if it's an anime style game, I don't get a bonus to hit with eyepokes.
#692 [04:55] <Visiiri> http://imgba.co/n/1295773839.jpg
#693 [04:55] <Visiiri> for miclee
#694 [04:55] <Visiiri> obviously
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#696 [05:00] <Arinomi> I can't connect to minecraft.net. I think it's a DNS problem, but I don't know how to fix that :/
#697 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Can you ping minecraft.net?
#698 [05:00] <Arinomi> sec
#699 [05:01] <Arinomi> no
#700 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> Does it resolve?
#701 [05:01] <Arinomi> No. I cannot find the host
#702 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, okay
#703 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> OS?
#704 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> Or router?
#705 [05:02] <Arinomi> Win7 64bit, I'm using a Linksys somethingsomething :P
#706 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> There two places where you can change the DNS, either in your router, or on your computer
#707 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> linksys is good
#708 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> Can you connect to your linksys router?
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#710 [05:03] <Arinomi> Ah, shit. I need to reboot it. I can't get to the admin page.
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#712 [05:06] <Arinomi> There. I'm connected to my router
#713 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> The first page is basic setup, correct?
#714 [05:07] <Arinomi> Yes.
#715 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Do you see static DNS towards the bottom?
#716 [05:08] <Arinomi> Yes.
#717 [05:08] <Arinomi> There are only zeros in the boxes.
#718 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> alright, I can recommend google's DNS
#719 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/
#720 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> 8.8.8.8
#721 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> and 8.8.4.4
#722 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Or
#723 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDNS
#724 [05:10] <Arinomi> I put 8.8.8.8 as Static DNS 1. Do I have to use 8.8.4.4 as well=
#725 [05:10] <Arinomi> *?
#726 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Only if you wish
#727 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> one is enough
#728 [05:10] <Arinomi> All right. Still won't connect to minecraft.net, though.
#729 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> No?
#730 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Can you go to Administration.
#731 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> then diagnostics
#732 [05:12] <Arinomi> I'm ther
#733 [05:12] <Arinomi> e
#734 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> Can you hit ping there
#735 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> and ping minecraft.net
#736 [05:13] <Arinomi> Oh. I was able to ping minecraft.net
#737 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#738 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> In your command prompt, can you ipconfig /flushdns
#739 [05:13] <Arinomi> Timed out, though. 100% packet loss :P
#740 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> See if you can't ping there
#741 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I don't think minecraft is responding to ping
#742 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> but at least you can resolve an IP on your router
#743 [05:14] <Arinomi> Yes, that's right. I got an IP.
#744 [05:14] <Arinomi> On the router, that is.
#745 [05:14] <Arinomi> I did flush the DNS on my computer, yet I was unable to ping minecraft in cmd.
#746 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> Strange, it doesn't even resolve to an ip on the computer?
#747 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> Can you ping google.com or anywhere else?
#748 [05:15] <Arinomi> Yep, I could ping google.
#749 [05:15] <Arinomi> Minecraft is the only thing I can't connect to :P
#750 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Reboot?
#751 [05:17] <nipper> http://184.73.249.138 = minecraft.net
#752 [05:18] <Arinomi> I did that about 15 minutes ago. But I can do it again, if you think it'll matter.
#753 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> Try nipper's link
#754 [05:18] <Arinomi> Yes, I managed to connect to the site just fine, using the IP.
#755 [05:19] <Arinomi> My client still won't connect, though.
#756 [05:19] <nipper> Just use it till your dns updates.
#757 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> Hold on
#758 [05:19] <nipper> modify the host file
#759 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> Can you go to c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc
#760 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> Look for a host file there
#761 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> open it up in notepad
#762 [05:19] <nipper> as admin if vista/7
#763 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> See if you have an entry for minecraft.net
#764 [05:21] <Arinomi> No, there's no entry for minecraft.net
#765 [05:22] <Arinomi> There are no entries at all in this file :P
#766 [05:22] <ShaRose> Arinomi if you attempt to ping it should give an ip. What IP did ping give you?
#767 [05:22] <Arinomi> 184.73.249.138
#768 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> On the router or the PC?
#769 [05:23] <Arinomi> I was able to ping it from my router, but not my PC.
#770 [05:23] <ShaRose> wait what am I thinking it's amazon
#771 [05:23] <ShaRose> durp
#772 [05:23] <ShaRose> also, I can't ping minecraft.net yet I can still visit it
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#774 [05:24] <Arinomi> Yes, I can visit it if I use the IP. But not if I type http://www.minecraft.net/
#775 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> Probably set up to not respond to ICMP packets
#776 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> But strange that your computer won't even resolve an IP
#777 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> I guess, reboot, and see if that fixes anything
#778 [05:25] <Arinomi> I was able to ping the IP :P Heh. But okay, I'll reboot.
#779 [05:26] <Arinomi> Be right back.
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#781 [05:29] <Fantleas> Gtg
#782 [05:29] <Fantleas> Be back in like 7 hours, lol.
#783 [05:30] <Fantleas> I gotta sleep.
#784 [05:30] <Fantleas> Bye all.
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#787 [05:33] <Arinomi> It works ^^
#788 [05:33] <Arinomi> Thanks alot for the help :)
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#802 [06:39] <rmadler> I wasn't sure where to come for this, but out of curiosity - I'm supposedly getting Minecraft gifted, and it was supposed to get purchased days ago, but no keys have been mailed yet.... is the payment server still down/being moved, or something?
#803 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, have the person that bought it for you, look at their profile page
#804 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> see if the gift shows up there.
#805 [06:44] <rmadler> asking... -- appreciate it
#806 [06:44] <rmadler> says it isn't there
#807 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, if it isn't there, then something went wrong, the purchase didn't go through. I'd recommend him sending an email to daniel@mojang.com with payment details and an explaination of the situation
#808 [06:47] <rmadler> is there somewhere he could've gotten a bill - at least something to ensure payment went through?
#809 [06:47] <rmadler> I'll have him do that though
#810 [06:47] <rmadler> super thanks for the 6am support
#811 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how he bought it
#812 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> if it's through paypal, he should've gotten an email from paypal with a transaction ID
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#814 [06:48] <rmadler> says via visa on minecraft.net
#815 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> I don't know what the credit card one does, didn't use it myself.
#816 [06:48] <rmadler> hmmk
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#820 [06:55] <Arinomi> I can't connect to my Minecraft server anymore, it says it takes too long to log in. Could it be a problem with the software, or could it be a networking thing?
#821 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Check to see if the server's running anything else in the background, if the connection to minecraft.net is slow or down
#822 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> or if it's just not able to communicate out
#823 [06:57] <bacon> http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/28927771946258432
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#825 [06:58] <Arinomi> How do I check if it's running stuff in the background?
#826 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the OS
#827 [06:58] <Arinomi> Win7
#828 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> ctrl-shift-esc to bring up the task manager
#829 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> look at processes
#830 [07:00] <Arinomi> Everything looks normal, I think. The only Java-related processes I can find are java.exe, javaw.exe and jusched.exe
#831 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Is anything else taking up significant CPU time?
#832 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Can you access minecraft.net through the browser?
#833 [07:01] <Arinomi> No, nothing is taking alot of my CPU, and I can access minecraft.net
#834 [07:01] <Arinomi> And the only changes I've made to my network is that I'm using Google's DNS
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#837 [07:02] <Arinomi> My computer is DMZ'd too, so I don't think it's a port issue.
#838 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> Well.. hmm
#839 [07:03] <Zoidberghh> Hai guys, does someone knows how to get a server to be public? I can't find my server on minecraft.net/servers.jsp yet
#840 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> for classic?
#841 [07:03] <Zoidberghh> nar, for the net beta
#842 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> All you gotta do is just run a classic server
#843 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> There is no unified server list for beta
#844 [07:03] <Zoidberghh> ah, i see
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#846 [07:03] <Zoidberghh> thanks :)
#847 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> servers.jsp is all classic
#848 [07:04] <Zoidberghh> hm, so i guess we have to be patient then :)
#849 [07:04] <Arinomi> You just gotta tell your friends about your server, if you want people to join :P
#850 [07:04] <Zoidberghh> for sure ^^
#851 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> Arinomi - I really don't know...
#852 [07:05] <Arinomi> Yeah me neither, this is kinda blowing my mind. I've never had this problem before.
#853 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> Usually "Took too long to log in" is caused by an inability of the server to authenticate to minecraft's server in a timely manner
#854 [07:06] <Arinomi> Hmm.
#855 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> causes of that include an overloaded server (Too many other processes running at once)
#856 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> or a connection problem
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#858 [07:07] <Arinomi> Well, I'm getting a different error when I don't connect through a specified port, like 25565.
#859 [07:07] <Zoidberghh> what's the problem?
#860 [07:07] <GreyVulpine> "Took too long to log in"
#861 [07:07] <Arinomi> I can't connect to my server.
#862 [07:08] <Zoidberghh> ah, bugger, you host it on a local network?
#863 [07:08] <Arinomi> Yes. I'm hosting it on this very computer.
#864 [07:08] <Zoidberghh> hmk
#865 [07:08] <Arinomi> I've tried connecting through my public IP, my network IP and localhost.
#866 [07:09] <Zoidberghh> and, this is the first time you host your own server or did it work before?
#867 [07:09] <Arinomi> No, it did work before. In fact, it worked before I updated my client :P
#868 [07:09] <Zoidberghh> ah, tried restarting server?
#869 [07:09] <Arinomi> Several times.
#870 [07:10] <Zoidberghh> other ports?
#871 [07:10] <Arinomi> Yes.
#872 [07:10] <Zoidberghh> hmkay, its not that you have some anti-virus that doesnt like minecraft after you've updated?
#873 [07:11] <Arinomi> Nope, I tried disabling it just now.
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#875 [07:12] <Arinomi> Now I'm getting: "Internal client error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect"
#876 [07:13] <Zoidberghh> thats so weird, that means the client cant connect to the server, is the server outdated?
#877 [07:13] <Zoidberghh> i mean, he cant establish a socket
#878 [07:14] <Arinomi> The server is Beta 1.2_01 :S
#879 [07:14] <Zoidberghh> meh
#880 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> If you can't connect locally (127.0.0.1)... then firewall
#881 [07:15] <Arinomi> My firewall is disabled right now
#882 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> Then the server is running, and you're connecting via the right port?
#883 [07:16] <Zoidberghh> yeah, you could try editing / check the port settings, when you change the port you need to restart the server
#884 [07:18] <Arinomi> Wohoo! It worked! I changed the port to 25566, and I'm connecting with my Public IP:25566
#885 [07:18] <Zoidberghh> lol nice
#886 [07:18] <Arinomi> Typical... sun's going down right when I log in x'D
#887 [07:19] <Zoidberghh> hehe
#888 [07:19] <Zoidberghh> always happens :P
#889 [07:19] <Arinomi> Yeah :P
#890 [07:19] <Zoidberghh> well, i'm carving out a dungeon so i dont need the sun ;)
#891 [07:20] <Arinomi> I'm a dungeon dweller myself ^^
#892 [07:20] <Zoidberghh> nice :)
#893 [07:20] <Arinomi> But I had started a new world, so I didn't have any tools :P
#894 [07:21] <Zoidberghh> hehe, yeah i hope future updates won't involve creating new worlds
#895 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> They most likely will
#896 [07:21] <Zoidberghh> would be hard to start all over again hehe
#897 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> See: new file format
#898 [07:22] <Zoidberghh> ah okay hm
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#900 [07:23] <Arinomi> Ooh. New update.
#901 [07:23] <Zoidberghh> well, i hope there's gonna be something to convert the old format perhaps
#902 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> There probably will be..
#903 [07:24] <Clemor> Hello there. I've got a problem with my skin preview on minecraft.net and even with MCSkin. Anyone knows what it could be ?
#904 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> No word from notch on that, but I can't imagine him neglecting that
#905 [07:24] <Clemor> I've got Java's error message
#906 [07:24] <Zoidberghh> not me, sorry mate
#907 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, isn't skins stil disabled?
#908 [07:25] <Clemor> That's what I thought, but I found it quite odd that it affected MCSkin also.
#909 [07:28] <Arinomi> Minecraft just updated to Beta 1.2_02
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#912 [07:38] <iaznaB> hey guyz
#913 [07:38] <iaznaB> can someone help me ?
#914 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> With?
#915 [07:38] <iaznaB> i had a map in minecraft before the update
#916 [07:38] <iaznaB> with the new blocks
#917 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> Right....
#918 [07:38] <iaznaB> my question is,do the blocks update in my old version map after i update the client ?
#919 [07:39] <GreyVulpine> If you want to get the new blocks with your old map, you'll have to travel to ungenerated chunks
#920 [07:39] <GreyVulpine> Already generated chunks won' t have the new blocks in it
#921 [07:39] <iaznaB> ow,ok :) 10x
#922 [07:39] <iaznaB> but that's bummer ^^,
#923 [07:39] <iaznaB> cuz i've traveled a lot
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#925 [07:50] <Drule> I just bought a gift code
#926 [07:50] <Drule> but it didn't say how I should actually use it
#927 [07:50] <Drule> what the fuck is up with that
#928 [07:51] <Drule> me and my friend want to play now and I bought a gift code so he could register
#929 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#930 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> Log in
#931 [07:51] <Drule> I'm already logged in
#932 [07:51] <Drule> I own the game, and I bought an additional gift code
#933 [07:51] <Drule> when I go to taht page it says
#934 [07:51] <Drule> You have already have the full version of the game! YAY!
#935 [07:51] <Drule> How am I supposed to give it to my friend?
#936 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> Have him log in
#937 [07:52] <Drule> Okay
#938 [07:52] <Drule> and then?
#939 [07:52] <GreyVulpine> give him the gift code to enter in
#940 [07:52] <Drule> yes but where is the gift code?
#941 [07:52] <GreyVulpine> should've been emailed to you/him
#942 [07:52] <Drule> I sent it to my own mail
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#944 [07:52] <Drule> but I didn't get any
#945 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> How long ago was this purchase made?
#946 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> It can take some time for the payment to go through the system
#947 [07:53] <Drule> About four minutes ago
#948 [07:53] <Drule> Five*
#949 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's not always immediate
#950 [07:53] <Drule> How long will I have to wait?
#951 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> mojang's official policy is 24 hours before you can email them
#952 [07:54] <Drule> what
#953 [07:54] <Drule> jesus
#954 [07:54] <Drule> it should've said that then
#955 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> It does
#956 [07:54] <Drule> I would've just bought the game on my friend's account in that case
#957 [07:54] <Drule> no it just says
#958 [07:54] <Drule> Once the purchase is complete and has cleared, you will receive an email with the gift codes, and you will see them listed on your profile page.
#959 [07:55] <Drule> god, what a waste of money.
#960 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> All isn't lost, just wait a day
#961 [07:56] <Drule> I bought it to play today *specifically*.
#962 [07:56] <Drule> Me and my friend don't get to meet very often.
#963 [07:57] <GreyVulpine> Well, if you'd like, you can still purchase it on his account, and have that gift code stored up for future use
#964 [07:57] <GreyVulpine> Or even, ask for a refund on the gift code.
#965 [07:57] <Drule> Ya, I don't like to waste money
#966 [07:57] <Drule> so imma ask for my money back
#967 [07:58] <GreyVulpine> Things like that do take some time, they're completely backlogged in emails.
#968 [07:58] <GreyVulpine> You're not the only one to experience this.
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#970 [08:00] <Drule> They should really be clear about the waiting time for gift codes
#971 [08:00] <Drule> all sites that don't send you keys instantly do this
#972 [08:02] <GreyVulpine> They're completely overworked and swamped in emails and such. Their server migration just finished, they still have a ton of work to do still on everything
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#974 [08:07] <TheBix> omg
#975 [08:07] <TheBix> just got a massive memory leak in minecraft
#976 [08:08] <SinZ> not uncommon
#977 [08:08] <Drule> They shouldn't accept payments if they can't handle them then.
#978 [08:08] <TheBix> the thing just quickly slowed down and ground to a halt
#979 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> Yes, a company not accepting money.
#980 [08:08] <Drule> The correct way to deal with it would be to close payments until the issues are fixed.
#981 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> That'll happen
#982 [08:08] <SinZ> Drule, then people would bitch that they cant buy
#983 [08:08] <TheBix> before crashing because it couldn't make a thread because it used up all the memory
#984 [08:08] <Drule> SinZ: They wouldn't have any right to bitch as they are not customers.
#985 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> They will anyways
#986 [08:08] <Drule> Yes GreyVulpine, it's common practice for companies who know how to properly deal with customer relations.
#987 [08:09] <Drule> There is a proper way to deal with every situation.
#988 [08:09] <SinZ> they have stated the server isn't working, so its idiots that are buying atm
#989 [08:09] <TheBix> no its not
#990 [08:09] <Drule> Uh no, because there's no information anywhere on the site.
#991 [08:09] <TheBix> its people that aren't aware of the situation
#992 [08:09] <Drule> The site is advertising Minecraft as usual
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#994 [08:09] <TheBix> poor victims if you will.
#995 [08:09] <Drule> you can't expect customers to know about the probelsm
#996 [08:09] <Drule> problems
#997 [08:10] <SinZ> http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2812089385/the-web-server-is-struggling-were-migrating
#998 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes, customers just want the product, they only look for info when it doesn't work
#999 [08:10] <Drule> Yeah SinZ, because prospect customers always read insignificant tumblr entries by developers before they buy a product.
#1000 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> Sure, I did, before buying an indie product
#1001 [08:11] <TheBix> hey guys
#1002 [08:11] <TheBix> how much does it take for notch to realise hes made a massive mistake
#1003 [08:11] <Drule> Again, if they cannot handle the payments they should close it until the issues are dealt with, or at least put up a big splash on every page stating WE ARE HAVING MAJOR SERVER ISSUES SO DO NOT EXPECT PAYMENTS TO GO THROUGH.
#1004 [08:11] <TheBix> that needs to be changed asap?
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#1006 [08:11] <SinZ> Drule, its the first link in Community
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#1008 [08:11] <r3FLeX> Hey
#1009 [08:11] <TheBix> ....
#1010 [08:11] <Skyrider> Hey everyone
#1011 [08:11] <Hawkzy`> Hi
#1012 [08:11] <TheBix> not everyone is gonna comb the site for links SinZ
#1013 [08:11] <r3FLeX> i buy gift code, when & where i will get it (paypal email or account email?)?
#1014 [08:12] <Hawkzy`> Lol
#1015 [08:12] <TheBix> next year by the sounds of things
#1016 [08:12] <Drule> SinZ: Again, you can't expect potential customers to go read through material that's in no way related to purchasing the product.
#1017 [08:12] <Drule> This is the kind of stuff you put on the front page in a big splash
#1018 [08:12] <Drule> not in a community section
#1019 [08:12] <TheBix> this ^
#1020 [08:13] <SinZ> So you buy things out of the blue without looking at it at all, if they do that, then they are stupid for not doing what, 1minute worth of research
#1021 [08:13] <TheBix> .......
#1022 [08:13] <TheBix> I researched on youtube when I got it
#1023 [08:13] <TheBix> not in some random page of the website
#1024 [08:13] <TheBix> come on, be logical here.
#1025 [08:14] <Drule> SinZ: Are you trolling or something? Yes, EVERYONE buys products "out of the blue". Nobody sifts through community sections expecting to find information that's in no way related to that section.
#1026 [08:14] <Drule> What you're saying makes no sense.
#1027 [08:14] <TheBix> yeah sounds like he is trolling actually :P
#1028 [08:14] <Drule> If you have important information that needs to be conveyed to potential customers, you put it on the pages that ADVERTISE the product and urge you to buy it, not on pages for EXISTING customers.
#1029 [08:14] <Drule> Jesus, think before you speak.
#1030 [08:15] <SinZ> yeh, I'm totaly trolling because I'm saying that 1 minute of research on the site = a totaly insane thing to do /sarcasim
#1031 [08:15] <TheBix> I spent much more than one minute on the site before buying
#1032 [08:15] <TheBix> but I didn't spend any time on his twitter
#1033 [08:15] <Drule> SinZ: How would you even know that you NEED to research the community page if you don't even know there's a problem?
#1034 [08:15] <TheBix> or tumblr
#1035 [08:16] <SinZ> learn2listen next time
#1036 [08:16] <TheBix> He is trolling. Just stop feeding him.
#1037 [08:16] <Drule> Ya.
#1038 [08:16] <Drule> What a loser.
#1039 [08:17] <TheBix> anyway when I think Notch I honestly can't think of one thing about the development of minecraft he has done right aside from his fantastic idea.
#1040 [08:17] <SinZ> yeh, I'm the loser, the one that actuly looked at infomation about the game before buying
#1041 [08:17] <TheBix> SinZ: we never said we didn't.
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#1043 [08:18] <TheBix> Also the thing about Notch is he needs to be in charge of development from a more "abstracted" view
#1044 [08:19] <TheBix> He should hire other programmers to design the actual game.
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#1046 [08:19] <SinZ> he does
#1047 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> He does
#1048 [08:19] <SinZ> but his the primary coder due to its his game...
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#1050 [08:20] <TheBix> what do you mean by "he does"
#1051 [08:20] <SinZ> he has a team of 6
#1052 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> You obviously don't read anything about it
#1053 [08:21] <SinZ> him included
#1054 [08:21] <SinZ> theres 3 coders
#1055 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> Jeb and himself code minecraft
#1056 [08:21] <erik> i bought minecraft yesterday and my account is still not activated, nor have i received a confirmation of payment mail :\
#1057 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> mollstam there, does the website
#1058 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> carl handles the business side
#1059 [08:21] <TheBix> I did read.
#1060 [08:21] <TheBix> I read an article about the whole mojang team
#1061 [08:21] <TheBix> but that doesn't change anything I said.
#1062 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> Then you would know this
#1063 [08:21] <woder22> they just changed server give it a chance
#1064 [08:22] <TheBix> what is "this"
#1065 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> <TheBix> He should hire other programmers to design the actual game.
#1066 [08:22] <TheBix> Yea.
#1067 [08:22] <TheBix> He should.
#1068 [08:22] <SinZ> <TheBix> He should hire other programmers to design the actual game.
#1069 [08:22] <SinZ> he has
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#1071 [08:22] <TheBix> thats what the word "other" means
#1072 [08:22] <TheBix> as opposed to "He should hire programmers to design the actual game."
#1073 [08:23] <SinZ> he doesn't need more coders
#1074 [08:23] <TheBix> English is hard loljks
#1075 [08:23] <TheBix> :P
#1076 [08:23] <Drule> Ok, my friend's payment went through
#1077 [08:23] <SinZ> if he has a massave team, you couldn't realy call it an indie, which it is
#1078 [08:23] <Drule> but now I'm getting a black screen on startup
#1079 [08:23] <Drule> on my friends computer
#1080 [08:23] <SinZ> thats his computer
#1081 [08:23] <SinZ> doesn't have a good enough java
#1082 [08:23] <Drule> it worked yesterday when i played with my account on his computer
#1083 [08:23] <Drule> but it doesnt today
#1084 [08:24] <SinZ> browser, or client
#1085 [08:24] <TheBix> SinZ: so what if its not indie.
#1086 [08:24] <Drule> and its the same version of minecraft
#1087 [08:24] <Drule> SinZ: Both browser or client
#1088 [08:24] <Drule> er
#1089 [08:24] <Drule> and*
#1090 [08:24] <woder22> is there a update
#1091 [08:24] <SinZ> hmm
#1092 [08:24] <SinZ> so browser and client both get black screen
#1093 [08:24] <Drule> Yes
#1094 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> woder22 - 1.2_02 should be the latest
#1095 [08:24] <Drule> I get to the login screen
#1096 [08:24] <TheBix> why shouldn't he hire more programmers tho?
#1097 [08:24] <Drule> but after ive logged in it goes black
#1098 [08:25] <SinZ> try redownloading java
#1099 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> TheBix - This isn't the channel to discuss that.
#1100 [08:25] <Drule> Now it works in the browser
#1101 [08:25] <TheBix> well you were so........
#1102 [08:25] <SinZ> Problem solved drule?
#1103 [08:25] <Drule> I don't know, it's downloading an update
#1104 [08:25] <Drule> fuck
#1105 [08:25] <Drule> oh
#1106 [08:25] <Drule> hm
#1107 [08:26] <TheBix> sorry, just trying to learn from observations
#1108 [08:26] <Drule> aight
#1109 [08:26] <Drule> it works
#1110 [08:26] <Drule> thanks :D
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#1120 [09:14] <iain> im going to email notch and suggest introducing hatches/trap doors
#1121 [09:14] <iain> good idea?
#1122 [09:14] <Merciless> its been done
#1123 [09:14] <Merciless> but by all means
#1124 [09:15] <zampa> Are monsters able to walk through doors?
#1125 [09:16] <Merciless> no.
#1126 [09:22] <OODavo> zampa: Only open doors.
#1127 [09:23] <iain> lol
#1128 [09:23] <iain> if they could, i'd be pretty scared
#1129 [09:23] <iain> a creeper ringing my noteblock doorbell
#1130 [09:24] <iain> "what a nice hooussssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssse you have there"
#1131 [09:24] <iain> :(
#1132 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, creepers don't need to knock or ring the doorbell, they just let themselves in at night
#1133 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> Just be crafting, and see a little green block at the corner of your screen... Ssssss..
#1134 [09:25] <Merciless> Sssss....
#1135 [09:25] <peru> make steel door, they only open wth redstone
#1136 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> And I believe trap doors and such are already planned
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#1141 [09:36] <wesmagyar> do any of you guys use MineOS with the bukkit mod?
#1142 [09:36] <erik> i bought minecraft yesterday and my account is still not activated, nor have i received a confirmation of payment mail
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#1144 [09:44] <xmt> erik
#1145 [09:44] <xmt> Q: My purchase doesn't go through, what do I do?
#1146 [09:44] <xmt> A: First, check if you paid by E-Check. Those can take up to a week and a half to clear (usually five days). If it's been longer than that, or you didn't pay by E-Check, send me an email at payment@mojang.com. Make sure to include the transaction id from the receipt you got from paypal, and what username you bought the game for.
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#1148 [09:51] <erik> what is e-check lol
#1149 [09:51] <erik> i paid with visa
#1150 [09:52] <xmt> via paypal?
#1151 [09:53] <erik> no
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#1153 [09:53] <erik> but now i'm thinking i should've done that
#1154 [09:53] <xmt> yeah i dunno then, send them an email i guess
#1155 [09:54] <erik> ;(
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#1157 [09:58] <erik> sucks.
#1158 [09:59] <xmt> is the charge on your statement?
#1159 [10:01] <erik> aye.
#1160 [10:01] <erik> can't even log in on the account i created to purchase with on minecraft.net
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#1162 [10:02] <xmt> how come? it thinks you've got the wrong password?
#1163 [10:03] <erik> no, it's definitely the right one.
#1164 [10:03] <erik> i haven't even gotten a confirmation mail which i think is bizarre.
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#1166 [10:03] <xmt> that's strange, maybe something to do with all the server issues going on?
#1167 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> It is, I'd give them some time, if your account still isn't marked as premium in a couple days, send an email to daniel@mojang.com
#1168 [10:04] <Octocat> I've seen m
#1169 [10:04] <erik> Couldn't find that user. when i try to restore the password
#1170 [10:04] <ZaraXVI> same for me
#1171 [10:04] <ZaraXVI> it took like 2 hours to be marked premium
#1172 [10:05] <Octocat> I've seen a couple of other people with the same problem
#1173 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> There's quite a few with the same problem
#1174 [10:05] <ZaraXVI> now it worked for several days, but i still got no payment confirmation
#1175 [10:05] <ZaraXVI> i sent a mail, and no answers
#1176 [10:06] <Octocat> I need mod help but apparently you guys dont do that. :/
#1177 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, but you can ask..
#1178 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> It's a bit overwhelming to know every mod and plugin, so to make it easier on us helpers, we can't really give support for third-party stuff
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#1181 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> [10:06.54am] <@GreyVulpine> Sorry, but you can ask..
#1182 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> [10:07.32am] <@GreyVulpine> It's a bit overwhelming to know every mod and plugin, so to make it easier on us helpers, we can't really give support for third-party stuff
#1183 [10:08] <Octocat> Ok I'll ask
#1184 [10:08] <ZaraXVI> btw, why do water flow in a piece of ocean after i touched the ground ?
#1185 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> ZaraXVI - What do you mean?
#1186 [10:09] <Octocat> I'm typin slow since I'm knolls
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#1188 [10:09] <ZaraXVI> there was ocean, and i created a path with sand. then i destroyed it, but i get flowing water now, like a river, but in the ocean
#1189 [10:11] <mbentley> that's the way water 'works'
#1190 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Ah, because you destroyed a water source.
#1191 [10:11] <mbentley> you can fix it though
#1192 [10:11] <ZaraXVI> how ?
#1193 [10:13] <mbentley> you need a block underneath the surface... let me see if i can find something the explains it well
#1194 [10:14] * GreyVulpine pokes
#1194 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Water
#1195 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> In Infdev, Alpha, and Beta, Water springs can be duplicated using any basin of at least three empty spaces, as long as the bottom is not Water, Glass, or Ice. Placing a Water spring at two sides of an empty space will create a water spring in the empty space. Also, removing the water from the middle of the basin will allow adjacent water springs to generate a new spring. (This does not
#1196 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> work with lava.)
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#1198 [10:16] <mib_397x86> hi
#1199 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1200 [10:16] <ZaraXVI> i don't get it
#1201 [10:16] <sTEINHAUG> How can i fix my java problem? I getting dc out from a server all the time
#1202 [10:16] <TheReddeH> ZaraXVI: youtube micecraft infinite water
#1203 [10:17] <TheReddeH> or minecraft if u dislike rodents
#1204 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> sTEINHAUG - What java problem?
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#1207 [10:18] <ZaraXVI> so i need to throw a bucket of water in my weird river in my ocean ?
#1208 [10:18] <mbentley> ZaraXVI: basically you have the block where water is acting funny. you need to have a block directly blow it and it will fix it
#1209 [10:18] <mbentley> ZaraXVI: not really
#1210 [10:19] <ZaraXVI> it's not just 1 block
#1211 [10:19] <mbentley> well place a block at the same level as the water
#1212 [10:19] <mbentley> then place another block under that
#1213 [10:19] <mbentley> remove the top block (the one at water level)
#1214 [10:20] <mbentley> then it will fix it and you can then remove the bottom block safely
#1215 [10:20] <mib_397x86> how i make a server on net?
#1216 [10:20] <mib_397x86> hello
#1217 [10:20] <mib_397x86> how i make an server?
#1218 [10:20] <mib_397x86> how i make aann seeerveerere?
#1219 [10:20] <mib_397x86> serveeeer*
#1220 [10:20] <mib_397x86> server
#1221 [10:20] <mib_397x86> ?
#1222 [10:20] <mbentley> read the faq in the topic
#1223 [10:20] <ZaraXVI> so my water has to be 2 blocks deep ?
#1224 [10:21] <mbentley> doesn't have to be
#1225 [10:23] <SinZ> don't spam mib_397x86
#1226 [10:23] <mbentley> ZaraXVI: if you want, i can show you on my test server
#1227 [10:23] <ZaraXVI> yea
#1228 [10:23] <ZaraXVI> how can i make a screenshot first ?
#1229 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> Um, F2 or F3
#1230 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> One of those takes a screenshot in minecraft and puts it in your .minecraft/screenshots folder
#1231 [10:27] <ZaraXVI> i'm waiting for day, to make a screenshot
#1232 [10:27] <mbentley> home.mbentley.net:12345 if you want me to show you
#1233 [10:27] <ZaraXVI> ok
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#1238 [10:46] <Arronicus> anyone on who knows much about minecarts?
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#1240 [10:47] <sluggo> hi
#1241 [10:48] <Arronicus> hey
#1242 [10:48] <SinZ> hi
#1243 [10:48] <Arronicus> anyone know why my minecarts keep vanishing?
#1244 [10:49] <SinZ> how far away do they get from you
#1245 [10:49] <Arronicus> no farther than say 750m
#1246 [10:49] <Arronicus> maybe 1km
#1247 [10:49] <Arronicus> i have about 16 minecarts deployed, all close to eachother
#1248 [10:50] <Arronicus> and every now and then 1 will vanish
#1249 [10:50] <Arronicus> but ones that are in a similar location and have been deployed for same amount of time, or longer, are still there.
#1250 [10:50] <SinZ> i dunno den
#1251 [10:51] <sluggo> well i broke my minecraft game installed zans mapper and broke it. so I deleted it and try to reinstall minecraft now it wont work.
#1252 [10:51] <Arronicus> im running a cart station, that has 12 boosts, for 6 different track lines, i have it all automated without the use of redstone =)
#1253 [10:51] <SinZ> hmm, redstone would of helped
#1254 [10:51] <Arronicus> naw
#1255 [10:52] <Arronicus> if you saw it, youd see why
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#1257 [10:52] <Arronicus> ill put pics up on the forums later, it took a while to get it to work, but it has boosts that can perpetually move
#1258 [10:53] <ks> :/ Is there any way to change biome types in a world save?
#1259 [10:53] <xales> sluggo: "wont work" <-- what does that mean?
#1260 [10:53] <ks> I want a nicer green
#1261 [10:54] <xales> ks: You mean change already generated land?
#1262 [10:54] <ks> yes xales
#1263 [10:54] <xales> ks: you could use a map editor
#1264 [10:55] <ks> will mce do it? Running on a headless server and Id prefer to avoid downloading the world xD
#1265 [10:55] <xales> no idea, sorry =/
#1266 [10:55] <sluggo> well let me log in then crashes
#1267 [10:55] <erik> login failed >____<
#1268 [10:56] <ks> okay, Ill try MCEdit I guess
#1269 [10:56] <xales> erik: login failed means username/password is wrong.
#1270 [10:57] <erik> i created the account and paid for the game yesterday, but the account still cannot be logged into.
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#1273 [10:59] <sluggo> xales sluggo: "wont work" <-- what does that mean? lets me log in then game crashes
#1274 [10:59] <xales> !reinstall
#1275 [11:00] <xales> erik: The username/password is invalid then. It isn't a problem with realizing you paid, it is a problem logging in at all
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#1277 [11:01] <erik> it's definitely correct. trying to restoring password doesn't work with either my username OR email. something must've gone amiss, despite the fact that i was logged in when i paid for the game last night.
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#1279 [11:01] <erik> -ing
#1280 [11:01] <SinZ> Erik, the auth server might be jumpy
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#1282 [11:03] <xales> erik: What username are you trying to log in with?
#1283 [11:04] <erik> r0flc0ptar
#1284 [11:05] <xmt> classy ;)
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#1286 [11:05] <NeuTronas> Hello, how do i update my minecraft server?
#1287 [11:05] <erik> tradition.
#1288 [11:05] <NeuTronas> i download it from page, but it's older than a game
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#1290 [11:07] <ZaraXVI> woot
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#1292 [11:07] <ZaraXVI> water fixed
#1293 [11:07] <ZaraXVI> mbentley: thanks for the help
#1294 [11:07] <mbentley> no prob
#1295 [11:07] <NeuTronas> Hello, how do i update my minecraft server?
#1296 [11:07] <NeuTronas> i download it from page, but it's older than a game
#1297 [11:07] <SinZ> to update, you replace the jar file
#1298 [11:07] <mbentley> they aren't the same version number right now NeuTronas
#1299 [11:08] <ZaraXVI> does minecraft crash often with you ?
#1300 [11:08] <mbentley> latest server = 1.2_01
#1301 [11:08] <SinZ> lies
#1302 [11:08] <SinZ> latest is 1.2_02
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#1304 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> latest client is 02
#1305 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> latest server is still 01
#1306 [11:10] <SinZ> oh
#1307 [11:10] <SinZ> yeh, because server didn't need update
#1308 [11:10] * GreyVulpine nods
#1308 [11:10] <SinZ> it was pure client fixs only
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#1310 [11:10] <SinZ> it was just to redirect to new webserver
#1311 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> and a couple other tweaks
#1312 [11:11] <SinZ> This update is a tiny one just to make the client download skins directly from Amazon S3 instead of from minecraft.net.
#1313 [11:12] <ZaraXVI> are the trees burning forever a bug?
#1314 [11:13] <SinZ> kinda... its been in the game since fire basicly
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#1316 [11:15] <mbentley> trees can disappear if there is fire all around them i believe
#1317 [11:15] <SinZ> yeh
#1318 [11:15] <ZaraXVI> but in the end lots of tree are left with only the top burning
#1319 [11:15] <ZaraXVI> so they don't burn, because it's only 1 side, right ?
#1320 [11:16] <mbentley> pretty much
#1321 [11:17] <xales> erik: The username is valid, so the password is wrong.
#1322 [11:21] <Arronicus> hey xales, or grey, do either of you know much about minecarts?
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#1324 [11:21] <xales> anything specific you want to ask?
#1325 [11:22] <erik> xales: trying to restore via username fails (Failed to send email: javax.mail.SendFailedException: Invalid Addresses; nested exception is: com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPAddressFailedException: 554 5.7.1 : Relay access denied), and my email is not recognized..
#1326 [11:22] <erik> also, no confirmation mail after paying.
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#1328 [11:23] <xales> erik: That means your email is denying it for some reason =\
#1329 [11:23] <xales> you should probably email them and ask them to change your password/email
#1330 [11:24] <pbc2> the forgot password thing on the website doesnt work ya know
#1331 [11:24] <pbc2> it gives java errors
#1332 [11:24] <erik> it's a gmail so it sounds strange it'd be denied
#1333 [11:25] <erik> my email is not recognized in the sense that when i try to "send email" using my registered email it says user not found.
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#1335 [11:25] <pbc2> erik i have the same problem
#1336 [11:25] <pbc2> i cant even login
#1337 [11:25] <erik> that's good.
#1338 [11:25] <pbc2> havent been able to for 3days
#1339 [11:25] <erik> "an email was recently sent to that user".. no
#1340 [11:25] <pbc2> and support doesnt even respond to their emails
#1341 [11:26] <pbc2> its like i paid for a game that i no longer own
#1342 [11:26] <pbc2> ever since the server migration everythings been fucked
#1343 [11:27] <pbc2> i cant even mod my server.. i have to go by what pppl say thru irc
#1344 [11:27] <pbc2> :|
#1345 [11:27] <erik> 7__7
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#1347 [11:29] <erik> am sad nao.
#1348 [11:33] <sluggo> well i completely remove mine craft and redownload the game and still it wont load after i sighn in to it. it just loads and crashes "sigh"
#1349 [11:33] <xmt> i heard that might be a 64bit issue?
#1350 [11:35] <pbc2> dont know but i have 64bit
#1351 [11:35] <pbc2> but i should stil beable to login on the website
#1352 [11:35] <xmt> i was talking to sluggo, sorry
#1353 [11:35] <sluggo> I sent a bug report maybe they fix it in a day or two
#1354 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Can you give us a pastebin.com of the crash report?
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#1356 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> It's very unlikely the turnaround time for bug fixes is a day or two.
#1357 [11:37] <sluggo> http://pastebin.com/qqSQX6Nc
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#1359 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Did you mod minecrafT?
#1360 [11:39] <sluggo> i tried thats why i had to delet it
#1361 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> How did you delete it?
#1362 [11:40] <sluggo> AuBot Need help with reinstalling Minecraft? Click this link to see how! ( http://bit.ly/mc_faq [http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorial/Minecraft_Help_FAQ] ) and removed it from my down loads foloder
#1363 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> So you did delete the .minecraft folder?
#1364 [11:41] <sluggo> I can t find it
#1365 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#1366 [11:41] <sluggo> yeah
#1367 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Which
#1368 [11:42] <sluggo> vista
#1369 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Okay, go to your start menu, in your search bar, type: %appdata%
#1370 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Window pop up?
#1371 [11:42] <sluggo> yep
#1372 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Look for a .minecraft folder
#1373 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Might be inside a /roaming/ folder
#1374 [11:43] <sluggo> done
#1375 [11:43] <sluggo> ok
#1376 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any saves you want saved
#1377 [11:43] <sluggo> nope
#1378 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> move /.minecraft/saves out if you do
#1379 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise
#1380 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> delete .minecraft
#1381 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch minecraft
#1382 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> It'll redownload everything
#1383 [11:44] <sluggo> is it a bigg file
#1384 [11:45] <pbc2> ...this is just getting rediculas
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#1386 [11:46] <sluggo> how so
#1387 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> .minecraft is a folder
#1388 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> did you delete it?
#1389 [11:46] <sluggo> still am
#1390 [11:46] <pbc2> i havent been able to login for 3days and no real support
#1391 [11:46] <pbc2> thats how
#1392 [11:46] <xales> pbc2: They are very busy, especially right after a server move.
#1393 [11:46] <sluggo> did you send notch a email directly ?
#1394 [11:46] <Nuke547> Can someone help me?
#1395 [11:47] <pbc2> yep
#1396 [11:47] <pbc2> 2 emails
#1397 [11:47] <xales> pbc2: Is there a particular problem with logging in that we might be able to help with?
#1398 [11:47] <xales> Nuke547: Yes
#1399 [11:47] <xales> Nuke547: What do you need help with
#1400 [11:47] <pbc2> yep i cant login at all
#1401 [11:47] <xales> pbc2: That would be the problem. Emailing Notch will get you nowhere. He gets spammed really badly.
#1402 [11:47] <xales> pbc2: is there an error...?
#1403 [11:47] <pbc2> login failed
#1404 [11:47] <pbc2> and the passowrd retrival doesnt work
#1405 [11:47] <Nuke547> When I try to login, I get this error: org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated
#1406 [11:47] <pbc2> gives java errors
#1407 [11:48] <xales> pbc2: Login failed means that the username/password is wrong. Password retrieval is being fixed literally right not
#1408 [11:48] <xales> now*
#1409 [11:48] <xales> Nuke547: You need to update graphics drivers.
#1410 [11:48] <pbc2> but heres the catch... my password is not wrong because i use the same info forEVERYTHING
#1411 [11:48] <Nuke547> Xales: Mine is updated to the max but its just bad
#1412 [11:48] <pbc2> it has started giveing me this error since the migration
#1413 [11:48] <xales> Nuke547: What graphics card do you have?
#1414 [11:49] <Nuke547> Im not sure, its an old one though and its updated already
#1415 [11:49] <xales> pbc2: I'll double check that the password retrieval is being fixed, but last I heard from mollstam, he is working on it.
#1416 [11:49] <xales> Nuke547: Please check exactly what the model of the card is :)
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#1419 [11:50] <sTEINHAUG> How can i fix that im not getting Java Disconect error all the time? Im 1 of 10 friends that getting it. Please help.
#1420 [11:50] <Nuke547> Xales: Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV
#1421 [11:51] <xales> sTEINHAUG: Where do you get the error?
#1422 [11:51] <sTEINHAUG> When im in the friend community server. Getting dissconected all the time.
#1423 [11:51] <sTEINHAUG> tried to updated java from the offical java site.
#1424 [11:51] <xales> Nuke547: It looks like that card doesn't support some graphic features Minecraft requires =\
#1425 [11:52] <xales> sTEINHAUG: Do you get it with any other servers, or just a specific one?
#1426 [11:52] <Nuke547> xales: So I cant play Minecraft?
#1427 [11:52] <xales> Nuke547: Unfortunately, not on a card that old.
#1428 [11:52] <sluggo> owww
#1429 [11:52] <xales> From Intel's own site, "Not all of the new features of DirectX 9.0 are supported"
#1430 [11:52] <Nuke547> xales: Okay, Thanks for your help
#1431 [11:52] <xales> Directx 9 isn't even recent now ._.
#1432 [11:53] <xales> not that Minecraft uses directx, but whatever
#1433 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Did it work?
#1434 [11:54] <sluggo> it wont delete say it open
#1435 [11:54] <sTEINHAUG> getting it on lal
#1436 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> You gotta close minecraft before you delete it
#1437 [11:54] <sTEINHAUG> all
#1438 [11:54] <sluggo> did that
#1439 [11:54] <xales> sTEINHAUG: What exactly does it say when you get disconnected?
#1440 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> And it still says it won't delete?
#1441 [11:55] <sluggo> yep
#1442 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Do you have any files open from inside .minecraft?
#1443 [11:55] <sluggo> I shouldnt
#1444 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> maybe a winrar program for when you tried to mod minecraft.jar?
#1445 [11:56] <sluggo> nope no jar or winwar running
#1446 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Can you pull up your task manager, make sure java or javaw.exe isn't running at the moment
#1447 [11:58] <sluggo> I have none of those running for sure ill try again
#1448 [11:59] <xales> I have an easier way.
#1449 [11:59] <sluggo> I do have two roaming folders though one Captail R and one lower r
#1450 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> I mean, the easiest way is to reboot the machine, delete it immediately after it finishes
#1451 [11:59] <xales> GreyVulpine: Not quite :)
#1452 [12:00] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1452 [12:00] <xales> sluggo: Download this and install it. http://www.filehippo.com/download_unlocker/
#1453 [12:00] <xales> Then try to delete it again with that open. It will tell you what is locking it and let you remove the lock.
#1454 [12:01] <xales> GreyVulpine: If you haven't seen that tool, it is simply awesome.
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#1456 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, nope, haven't seen it before
#1457 [12:02] <pbc2> so when will the website be fixed
#1458 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> pbc2 - What about it is broken?
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#1460 [12:02] <pbc2> password retrivial
#1461 [12:02] <Jose_Jalapeno> its been broken for a week almost
#1462 [12:02] <pbc2> ^
#1463 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> It's been in flux for a week, server overloaded, migration, growing pains..
#1464 [12:03] <Jose_Jalapeno> Failed to send email: javax.mail.SendFailedException: Invalid Addresses; nested exception is: com.sun.mail.smtp.SMTPAddressFailedException: 554 5.7.1 : Relay access denied
#1465 [12:03] <pbc2> cant someone just manually reset my password
#1466 [12:03] <pbc2> jesus
#1467 [12:03] <pbc2> ive been waiting for ever
#1468 [12:04] <pbc2> i got proof of purchase
#1469 [12:04] <pbc2> just need a person to do it....
#1470 [12:05] <Jose_Jalapeno> you shouldnt need proof of purchase, just send a mail to the accounts e-mail with a new pw
#1471 [12:05] <pbc2> ive done that, and still no reply
#1472 [12:05] <pbc2> done that 2days ago
#1473 [12:05] <xales> pbc2: None of us work for Mojang. Email daniel@mojang.com
#1474 [12:05] <Jose_Jalapeno> yea
#1475 [12:06] <pbc2> done that xales
#1476 [12:06] <xales> It may take a while, they don't exactly get a small volume of emails.
#1477 [12:06] <xales> Especially given the server move.
#1478 [12:06] <pbc2> 2days is plenty of time imo
#1479 [12:07] <xales> I don't think you realize the volume of email they recieve.
#1480 [12:07] <Jose_Jalapeno> i guess they could afford hiring a few supporters now v0v
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#1482 [12:07] <xales> Especially given that they are a small indie company, and don't currently have any fully-dedicated support persons.
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#1486 [12:13] <FakeDotCom> My friend can't go on Minecraft.net or play the game. Can anyone help ?
#1487 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Can he ping minecraft.net?
#1488 [12:14] <FakeDotCom> No
#1489 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Does it resolve to an ip?
#1490 [12:14] <FakeDotCom> yea
#1491 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> What IP is that?
#1492 [12:14] <SkiingPenguins> yikes
#1493 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Okay then
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#1497 [12:19] <Burnskagen> !status Guitar
#1498 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> Can we help you?
#1499 [12:19] <Kealper[Mint]> >.>
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#1501 [12:19] <pbc2> can get my account back ;x
#1502 [12:19] <Kealper[Mint]> oh..that's annoying...i get hilighted on my main every time i talk on here
#1503 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Hah
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#1505 [12:20] <Kealper[Mint]> :O
#1506 [12:20] <mib_ainh56> is this a minecraft help chanell ?
#1507 [12:20] <Burnskagen> Stones are for noobs
#1508 [12:20] <Burnskagen> no?
#1509 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is mib_ainh56
#1510 [12:20] <Burnskagen> right stones is for noobs
#1511 [12:20] <Burnskagen> are they?
#1512 [12:20] <Burnskagen> or are stones 4 pros?
#1513 [12:20] <Burnskagen> I think stones r 4 noobs
#1514 [12:20] <xales> Burnskagen: Do you need help with something?
#1515 [12:21] <Burnskagen> not really
#1516 [12:21] <Burnskagen> u?
#1517 [12:21] <xales> Please don't spam the channel with random talk then :)
#1518 [12:21] <Burnskagen> ok man
#1519 [12:21] <Burnskagen> I am so sorry
#1520 [12:21] <xales> ._.
#1521 [12:21] <mib_ainh56> i still do not recived email with gift code , is there a way how to check it ?
#1522 [12:21] <pbc2> u probly aint guna get it
#1523 [12:21] <pbc2> minecrafts broken
#1524 [12:21] <pbc2> :|
#1525 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_ainh56 - It may take some time to process, check your profile page
#1526 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> When it goes through, you'll get an email, and it will show up on your profile page as well
#1527 [12:22] <pbc2> fix my fckn account fuuuu
#1528 [12:23] <Kealper[Mint]> we can fix your account about as well as you can fix your account right now
#1529 [12:23] <mib_ainh56> i already bought a game , but i bought a gift code for brother and now waiting for that code ... nothing in my mail
#1530 [12:23] <pbc2> get me someone who can fix it
#1531 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> mib_ainh56 - Again, it may take some time to process your payment and send out the gift code via email.
#1532 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Give it a day or two
#1533 [12:24] <mib_ainh56> ok i get it
#1534 [12:24] <pbc2> put minecraft on the old servers
#1535 [12:24] <pbc2> lol
#1536 [12:24] <pbc2> then i can login!
#1537 [12:24] <pbc2> :O
#1538 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> hah, then nobody can log in
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#1540 [12:25] <SkiingPenguins> this is community help, these people, for the most part, cant do anything to help you with gift code emails
#1541 [12:25] <lolkasd> help please! Whenever I log into a server on Minecraft, after maybe 20 seconds in a server, my internet times out and I have to reset my router. This is the only game I have a problem with, and I was wondering if it is an ongoing problem.
#1542 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Your internet times out?
#1543 [12:26] <lolkasd> yes
#1544 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internet_crashes_after_about_5_minutes_connected_to_a_smp_server
#1545 [12:26] <lolkasd> thanks m8
#1546 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> There are other reports like that one, but that's got the most replies, as well as an 'acknowledged' from mojang
#1547 [12:30] <pbc2> ugh im tired of waiting
#1548 [12:30] <pbc2> all i want to do is play with my friends again
#1549 [12:30] <pbc2> ;/
#1550 [12:31] <Kealper[Mint]> pbc2: set online-mode to false on the server and just play in offline mode for the time-being
#1551 [12:32] <Kealper[Mint]> and go into the world folder on the server and rename your player's .dat file to Player.dat inside the Players folder
#1552 [12:32] * GreyVulpine shakes
#1552 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> pbc2 can't login to his client
#1553 [12:33] <pbc2> i can play offline though
#1554 [12:33] <pbc2> but its boring
#1555 [12:33] <pbc2> :|
#1556 [12:33] <pbc2> i wana play smp
#1557 [12:33] <pbc2> i pay for a server tha ti cant play on LOL
#1558 [12:33] <pbc2> isnt that some shit?
#1559 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> Yikes, paying to play on minecraft servers..
#1560 [12:34] <pbc2> well i pay for a vps and host my minecraft server off that
#1561 [12:34] <pbc2> so yah
#1562 [12:34] <Kealper[Mint]> wait....so why is that an issue? as long as he is the only one logging into the server in offline mode, it should work fine :/
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#1564 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Wants to play with others on his server
#1565 [12:34] <pbc2> exactly
#1566 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Can't, because his client can't auth to minecraft
#1567 [12:35] <Kealper[Mint]> yeah, he still can, as long as his other friends actually log in to their accounts before joining
#1568 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Kealper's got a point
#1569 [12:36] <pbc2> well i cant login to go to multiplayer
#1570 [12:36] <Kealper[Mint]> you don't have to
#1571 [12:36] <pbc2> all i get is login failed
#1572 [12:37] <BarryCarlyon> Also getting login failed.
#1573 [12:37] <BarryCarlyon> The gf can't login to the client.
#1574 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> Looks like minecraft.net is down
#1575 [12:37] <Kealper[Mint]> only her? or the entire house?
#1576 [12:37] <Kealper[Mint]> oh
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#1578 [12:37] <Kealper[Mint]> gg amazon
#1579 [12:38] <BarryCarlyon> I'm already on she disconnected and cannot reconnect
#1580 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Or.. just came back up
#1581 [12:38] <Koi> whats up with the game today
#1582 [12:38] <Koi> cant get in
#1583 [12:38] <BarryCarlyon> She just logged in fine/
#1584 [12:38] <BarryCarlyon> A
#1585 [12:38] <BarryCarlyon> Amazon must of burped.
#1586 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Weird, just hiccupped
#1587 [12:38] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#1588 [12:38] * GreyVulpine stabs amazon with a rusty spork.
#1588 [12:39] <Kealper[Mint]> lol
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#1590 [12:41] <Kealper> anywho
#1591 [12:41] <Kealper> back to the merry world of windows
#1592 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#1593 [12:41] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (12:10p Jan 23 11) temp(13.7 F / -10.2 C, feels like 14 F / -10 C) cond(Clear) wind(East at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(50%) dewpnt(-2 F / -19 C) bp(30.39 in / 1029.0 hPa (Falling)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(3 out of 16)
#1594 [12:41] <GreyBot> Rest of Today: Mostly sunny. Highs 10 to 14. Light and variable winds.
#1595 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, cold in hell today.
#1596 [12:41] <Kealper> xD
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#1602 [12:45] <raisin> GreyVulpin this is slappy or something from earlier thanks for the help got it up and running again thanks
#1603 [12:45] <Kealper> "or something" lol
#1604 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> Um, sure.
#1605 [12:45] <IceGuest_75> is it safe to publicly say my ip address? i want someone to try and connect to my server see if my port forwarding worked :)
#1606 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> We sorta kinda already know it IceGuest_75.
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#1608 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> But sure
#1609 [12:46] <Kealper> IceGuest_75: type !check
#1610 [12:46] <IceGuest_75> oh lol ok
#1611 [12:46] <IceGuest_75> uhh
#1612 [12:46] <Kealper> in irc
#1613 [12:46] <where> where do i type that?
#1614 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Here
#1615 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Just type !check
#1616 [12:46] <where> !check
#1617 [12:46] <aetherian> augh
#1618 [12:47] <skuu> huh
#1619 [12:47] <aetherian> my sceen just went not fitting whole sceen
#1620 [12:47] <aetherian> my sceen just went not fitting whole sceen
#1621 [12:47] <Kealper> O.o
#1622 [12:47] <aetherian> ack
#1623 [12:47] <Kealper> O.o
#1624 [12:47] <aetherian> typefail
#1625 [12:47] <Kealper> lol
#1626 [12:47] <aetherian> darn up button
#1627 [12:48] <aetherian> jeez, I put my computer to sleep, open it, and bam, it's messed up.
#1628 [12:48] <aetherian> I fail at computers.
#1629 [12:48] * aetherian is away: othe
#1629 [12:48] <Kealper> or your computer fails at computers
#1630 [12:48] <aetherian> it's supposed to be a notbad compy
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#1635 [12:57] <pbc2> lol iget a new error now
#1636 [12:57] <pbc2> cant connect to minecraft.net
#1637 [12:57] <pbc2> i guess that improvement?
#1638 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> Not really.
#1639 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> Looks like minecraft's having some difficulties with its auth server.
#1640 [12:58] <pbc2> doesnt it always
#1641 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> Took me a few tries to log in as well.
#1642 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> Not always
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#1644 [13:00] <SkiingPenguins> how long does it take for a tree to burn down? i lit a forest fire and it's taken atleast 2 day cycles
#1645 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes the fire doesn't die out, ever
#1646 [13:00] <skuu> ok could someone please try and connect to my server? just to see if it's working :) 109.155.106.192
#1647 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> !check 109.155.106.192
#1648 [13:01] <skuu> oh :) does that definitely mean it's up?
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#1650 [13:01] <Dreadchain> hey
#1651 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> good chance it is up
#1652 [13:01] <Dreadchain> anyone bought gift codes?
#1653 [13:01] <skuu> thanks so much, Grey :D
#1654 [13:01] <Dreadchain> I just bought one but i'm not sure where to get it
#1655 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> Dreadchain - Give it some time for it to process, looks like you're not the only one to experience this.
#1656 [13:02] <Dreadchain> righto, thanks
#1657 [13:02] <wesmagyar> anyone else having problems connecting i just got dced off of my own server and now my minecraft client wont log in
#1658 [13:02] <Dreadchain> spose i'll go grab a beer and come back in an hour
#1659 [13:02] <wesmagyar> wait there it goes
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#1661 [13:02] <wesmagyar> looks like minecraft.net just burped
#1662 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#1663 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> again
#1664 [13:02] * GreyVulpine pokes skuu
#1664 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> It works
#1665 [13:03] <TicTac1337> stupid 403
#1666 [13:03] <skuu> huh sorry?
#1667 [13:03] <skuu> you went onto it?
#1668 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> skuu - check server console
#1669 [13:03] <ZaraXVI> what happens if you create 2 portals to the nether ?
#1670 [13:03] <ZaraXVI> does it creates another portal in the nether at another location ?
#1671 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how far away it is
#1672 [13:03] <skuu> Grey, thanks again :)
#1673 [13:03] <TicTac1337> since you can only acces 1 at the time, both 2 lead to 1 portal in the nether
#1674 [13:04] <TicTac1337> i believe
#1675 [13:04] * GreyVulpine nods
#1675 [13:04] <xales> ZaraXVI: Yes - it has to be a minimum distance from other portals
#1676 [13:04] <ZaraXVI> oh
#1677 [13:04] <xales> but it will create a new portal
#1678 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> If two portals in the overworld are closer than 8 blocks, it'll most likely lead to one portal in the nether
#1679 [13:04] <TicTac1337> Oh.
#1680 [13:04] <TicTac1337> its probably because i never acces the nether to much lol
#1681 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Since there's a 1 to 8 correlation of distance between nether and overworld
#1682 [13:04] <ZaraXVI> so if i create another far enought, it will teleport me elsewhere in the nether
#1683 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#1685 [13:05] <TicTac1337> well theres progress in the site, now it wont load
#1686 [13:05] <ZaraXVI> hmm
#1687 [13:05] <ZaraXVI> is it worth ?
#1688 [13:06] <TicTac1337> i think it isnt realy worth it because i hate minin obsidian
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#1690 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> Only if you want the special blocks found in the nether, and meet the pigman and ghasts
#1691 [13:06] <oriondd> is there any1 here i can go to to unbann me?
#1692 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, 500 servlet exception for me, no free connections
#1693 [13:06] <ZaraXVI> what blocks are there except netherrack ?
#1694 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> oriondd - Unban you to?
#1695 [13:06] <TicTac1337> Glowstone
#1696 [13:06] <TicTac1337> They cna light underwater spots and stuff
#1697 [13:07] <TicTac1337> can*
#1698 [13:07] <TicTac1337> stuff that torches cant
#1699 [13:07] <ZaraXVI> that's all ?
#1700 [13:07] <oriondd> yea cuz i was trying to c somthing and i did the wrong command without knowing it would ip ban me
#1701 [13:07] <TicTac1337> basically yeh
#1702 [13:07] <ZaraXVI> k
#1703 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> oriondd - Unban you to what?
#1704 [13:07] <TicTac1337> i use jack-o-lanterns instead
#1705 [13:07] <TicTac1337> teasier to find
#1706 [13:07] <TicTac1337> easier*
#1707 [13:07] <oriondd> multiplayer online the free one
#1708 [13:07] <oriondd> classic
#1709 [13:07] <TicTac1337> but if you want a bbq you need netherrack
#1710 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> We have no control over how server admins run their servers
#1711 [13:08] <TicTac1337> which is totally worth it
#1712 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> You'll have to contact them.
#1713 [13:08] <oriondd> can i get like a link to that
#1714 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry?
#1715 [13:08] <oriondd> dam
#1716 [13:09] <TicTac1337> wow wtf
#1717 [13:09] <TicTac1337> the minecraft site is weird
#1718 [13:09] <TicTac1337> that was odd
#1719 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> I'm getting "No Free Connections" from minecraft.net
#1720 [13:10] <TicTac1337> it suddenly gave me alot of info about the site
#1721 [13:10] <TicTac1337> i refreshed, back to the error
#1722 [13:10] <wesmagyar> any of you guys use mineos?
#1723 [13:10] <SkiingPenguins> lol @ http://minecraft.net/stats.jsp
#1724 [13:11] <TicTac1337> ah, its on
#1725 [13:11] <wesmagyar> i set that up last night and the web interface for it doesnt appear to work with bukkit
#1726 [13:11] <xales> wesmagyar: Unfortunately, we don't really provide support for third party programs or mods.
#1727 [13:12] <wesmagyar> ah ok was just wondering if anyone used it on a personal level didnt know this was an "official" support type deal
#1728 [13:12] <TicTac1337> i guess all servers need some restartin or stuff
#1729 [13:14] <xales> wesmagyar: It isn't, but the people who tend to be helping are usually busy helping people people with problems with the game itself, or don't have experience with that. The vast majority of people that come in here are looking for help, not looking to help =/
#1730 [13:14] <wesmagyar> i tried hosting my minecraft server off of my main machine but my lag was to bad for me to play off of so one of the guys here recomended mineos and i got that set up and the server running and just trying to figure it out
#1731 [13:14] <pbc2> wtf does this mean
#1732 [13:14] <pbc2> http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/6692/39727581.png
#1733 [13:14] <PatSter21> play online once
#1734 [13:14] <PatSter21> then come back and play offline
#1735 [13:15] <pbc2> i cant login to play offline?
#1736 [13:15] <TicTac1337> and minecraft is down
#1737 [13:15] <pbc2> the website?
#1738 [13:16] <TicTac1337> ye
#1739 [13:16] <TicTac1337> it was on for a minute or two
#1740 [13:16] <pbc2> 500 Servlet Exception [show] java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections! java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections! at com.mojang.minecraft.web.UserDB.getUser(UserDB.java:234) at com.mojang.minecraft.web.Users.login(Users.java:17) at _jsp._login__jsp._jspService(login.jsp:18) at _jsp._login__jsp._jspService(_login
#1741 [13:16] <pbc2> WTF
#1742 [13:16] <TicTac1337> now down again
#1743 [13:16] <TicTac1337> 500 Servlet Exception [show] java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections! Resin/4.0.14 Server: 'default'
#1744 [13:16] <Dreadchain> seems to work if you don't log in
#1745 [13:16] <Dreadchain> every time I try to log in it crashes
#1746 [13:17] <xales> Everyone is having these isues. Complaining won't get it fixed.
#1747 [13:17] <pbc2> it sould make them work faster
#1748 [13:17] <TicTac1337> lol
#1749 [13:18] <xales> pbc2: They are working, they aren't exactly watching this channel, which they aren't affiliated with in the first place.
#1750 [13:18] <TicTac1337> i laugh at germany's translations fail at browser games
#1751 [13:18] <pbc2> which channel are they on?
#1752 [13:19] <pbc2> cuz i wana talk with them
#1753 [13:19] <TicTac1337> my village is missing my iron fust
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#1755 [13:19] <TicTac1337> yes, my fust
#1756 [13:19] <noidhoon> hi all
#1757 [13:19] <SkiingPenguins> pbc2: learn some patience
#1758 [13:19] <pbc2> ive lost my patience
#1759 [13:19] <xales> pbc2: Not one you can join.
#1760 [13:19] <pbc2> ive been waiting 3days
#1761 [13:20] <xales> Oh good lord, three days. This is an excessively long time!
#1762 [13:20] <pbc2> yep
#1763 [13:20] <SkiingPenguins> yes and i bought the game right before they upgraded and have had to deal with the problems
#1764 [13:20] <xales> Especially for a game with sched downtime by an indie company, on a weekend, IN BETA
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#1766 [13:20] <pbc2> needs to stop being indie
#1767 [13:20] <pbc2> and be a real game
#1768 [13:21] <SkiingPenguins> most games dont have 1mil users in beta right?
#1769 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#1770 [13:21] <Vile_Smile> Can someone help me with a survival server question?
#1771 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Vile_Smile - Shoot
#1772 [13:21] <Vile_Smile> I have an idea for a multiplayer game
#1773 [13:21] <TicTac1337> lol..
#1774 [13:22] <Vile_Smile> I need some source to get started with modding
#1775 [13:22] <xales> Unfortunately, we don't support modding here, and our policy is "if you need to ask, you shouldn't be doing it" as far as creating mods.
#1776 [13:22] <xales> You could try #risucraft but don't be surprised if they act hostile
#1777 [13:22] <Vile_Smile> Ah
#1778 [13:22] <Vile_Smile> Thanks for the help :D
#1779 [13:22] <TheReddeH> w00t i love hostile people
#1780 [13:23] <TicTac1337> i dont
#1781 [13:23] <TicTac1337> creepers=hostile, i hate ceepers
#1782 [13:23] <noidhoon> first, sorry for my bad english... I buyed the game friday, still today i can't log in... I sent an email to payment@mojang.com but have not received any response... Anyone can help me ?
#1783 [13:23] <TicTac1337> creepers*
#1784 [13:23] <pbc2> nope
#1785 [13:23] <ZaraXVI> freezed
#1786 [13:23] <xales> noidhoon: They are having some issues with moving servers, but it will be fixed soon. Just wait a couple more days
#1787 [13:24] <ZaraXVI> uhuh
#1788 [13:24] <noidhoon> xales, ok... Thanks
#1789 [13:24] <ZaraXVI> when i login in the game i get this message "Error"
#1790 [13:24] <xales> ZaraXVI: Does it say anything other than that?
#1791 [13:24] <pbc2> nope
#1792 [13:24] <ZaraXVI> no
#1793 [13:25] <pbc2> http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/6692/39727581.png
#1794 [13:25] <ZaraXVI> just "Error"
#1795 [13:25] <pbc2> its like that amirte
#1796 [13:25] <ZaraXVI> yea
#1797 [13:25] <ZaraXVI> same thing
#1798 [13:25] <ZaraXVI> except i can play offline
#1799 [13:25] <ZaraXVI> coz i already connected succesfully
#1800 [13:25] <xales> It doesn't say anything below 'Error'?
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#1802 [13:25] <pbc2> click mypicture xales
#1803 [13:25] <pbc2> and youlll see
#1804 [13:26] <xales> I'm not talking to you, pbc2
#1805 [13:26] <pbc2> well im talking to you
#1806 [13:26] <xales> Cool
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#1808 [13:27] <ZaraXVI> who are you talking to ?
#1809 [13:28] <xales> you, ZaraXVI
#1810 [13:28] <ZaraXVI> exact same picture
#1811 [13:28] <xales> do you see anything under 'Error'?
#1812 [13:28] <ZaraXVI> no
#1813 [13:28] <ZaraXVI> just play online once play offline and try again
#1814 [13:28] <ZaraXVI> (usuall stuff)
#1815 [13:28] <ZaraXVI> no precision about the "Error"
#1816 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> xales, I think it's because of minecraft's site
#1817 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> I've been getting that as well
#1818 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Just need to log in a few times, hope you get lucky
#1819 [13:29] <xales> Probably just because the site is not working properly, not much can be done ._.
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#1824 [13:36] <ZaraXVI> lol
#1825 [13:36] <ZaraXVI> you can kill yourself with your own arrows
#1826 [13:36] <SkiingPenguins> yep
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#1829 [13:39] <SkiingPenguins> what causes these lines in the water? http://i51.tinypic.com/14n2pvm.png
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#1831 [13:43] <mib_49qmdm> how long does it take until you get a code
#1832 [13:43] <SkiingPenguins> it can be a few days, as the servers are being upgraded
#1833 [13:44] <ZaraXVI> SkiingPenguins: block boundaries ?
#1834 [13:44] <peterpotatis> hi! does anyone know about a good and free smp roleplay server?
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#1837 [13:45] <SkiingPenguins> ZaraXVI i guess that's what it is, now that i look at where they are
#1838 [13:45] <mib_49qmdm> because my brother bought the code beginning of last week
#1839 [13:45] <mib_49qmdm> but it's normal ?
#1840 [13:45] <ZaraXVI> frozen again :/
#1841 [13:47] <mib_49qmdm> how long i must wait maximal ?
#1842 [13:48] <mib_49qmdm> at the code
#1843 [13:48] <mib_49qmdm> hallo ?
#1844 [13:50] <ZaraXVI> 1-2 days
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#1847 [13:51] <mib_49qmdm> from now ?
#1848 [13:51] <ZaraXVI> from the time you bought it
#1849 [13:51] <mib_49qmdm> that was last week
#1850 [13:51] <ZaraXVI> so mail them
#1851 [13:52] <Jose_Jalapeno> think their whole mail system is broken
#1852 [13:52] <ZaraXVI> then hire a hitman to get refund
#1853 [13:52] <arkonnan> When I loaded my mine craft game about a week ago, a chunk of a structure I had built in the sky had dissapeared, and a basement farm I had dug was replaced with stone. Why?
#1854 [13:52] <Jose_Jalapeno> ;)
#1855 [13:52] <mib_49qmdm> my brother bought the game last week but he say he get not a e-mail
#1856 [13:53] <ZaraXVI> i didn't either
#1857 [13:53] <ZaraXVI> but mine got premium after 2 hours
#1858 [13:53] <mib_49qmdm> damn it
#1859 [13:53] <ZaraXVI> no order confirmation and no answer from them though
#1860 [13:54] <mib_49qmdm> who is speak german ?
#1861 [13:54] <ZaraXVI> what for
#1862 [13:55] <mib_49qmdm> who can german
#1863 [13:55] <mib_49qmdm> I am from germany
#1864 [13:55] <mib_49qmdm> ^^
#1865 [13:55] <ZaraXVI> shit happens
#1866 [13:56] <mib_49qmdm> why ?
#1867 [13:56] <ZaraXVI> kidding
#1868 [13:56] <ZaraXVI> ^^
#1869 [13:56] <mib_49qmdm> :D
#1870 [13:57] <mib_49qmdm> i hope i get minecraft soon
#1871 [13:57] <mib_49qmdm> ;)
#1872 [13:59] <arkonnan> hello?
#1873 [13:59] <arkonnan> When I loaded my mine craft game about a week ago, a chunk of a structure I had built in the sky had dissapeared, and a basement farm I had dug was replaced with stone. Why?
#1874 [14:01] <arkonnan> if you don't know, just say so.
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#1876 [14:02] <SkiingPenguins> arkonnan perhaps you didnt save right
#1877 [14:02] <mib_694rs2> Hi, i need help...
#1878 [14:02] <SkiingPenguins> with what?
#1879 [14:02] <mib_694rs2> i payed the game
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#1881 [14:02] <mib_694rs2> but i didnt recieved a code...
#1882 [14:03] <SkiingPenguins> the servers are being upgraded, it may take a few days
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#1884 [14:03] <mib_694rs2> ah, ok...
#1885 [14:03] <SkiingPenguins> been a week long problem
#1886 [14:03] <mib_694rs2> ya know when?
#1887 [14:03] <SkiingPenguins> no sorry
#1888 [14:03] <ZaraXVI> lol
#1889 [14:03] <mib_694rs2> hmpf...
#1890 [14:03] <ZaraXVI> this channel needs a banner
#1891 [14:03] <SkiingPenguins> well i dont work for them >.>
#1892 [14:03] <mib_694rs2> thanks you all, bye :D
#1893 [14:04] <mib_49qmdm> mib ^^ the problem have i too
#1894 [14:04] <ZaraXVI> yea
#1895 [14:04] <mib_694rs2> *gg*
#1896 [14:04] <mib_49qmdm> what yea ? :D
#1897 [14:04] <ZaraXVI> you found your german speaker
#1898 [14:04] <mib_694rs2> germen?
#1899 [14:04] <ZaraXVI> mib_49qmdm: mib_694rs2
#1900 [14:04] <mib_694rs2> i am german :D
#1901 [14:04] <ZaraXVI> mib_694rs2: mib_49qmdm
#1902 [14:04] <ZaraXVI> yea i know
#1903 [14:04] <SkiingPenguins> ZaraXVI: http://pastebin.com/kk68AcYc that's the banner for the channel
#1904 [14:05] <mib_694rs2> hast du es gleiche Prob?
#1905 [14:05] <mib_49qmdm> ich auch mib ^^
#1906 [14:05] <mib_49qmdm> ja
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#1908 [14:05] <mib_694rs2> mib = ?
#1909 [14:05] <ZaraXVI> zomg german speak
#1910 [14:05] <mib_694rs2> aso
#1911 [14:05] <mib_49qmdm> mein bruder hat mir ein code gekauft letze woche aber er hat es immer noch nicht
#1912 [14:05] <mib_694rs2> wann haste gezahlt und wie lang warteste schon?
#1913 [14:05] <mib_694rs2> oha...
#1914 [14:05] <mib_694rs2> ich erst heut mittag
#1915 [14:05] <mib_49qmdm> also mein bruder hat am montag gezahlt
#1916 [14:05] <mib_49qmdm> ^^
#1917 [14:06] <mib_49qmdm> aber ich mag des endlich spielen des is so geil ;)
#1918 [14:06] <Leviathan0109> .... Whaaa
#1919 [14:06] <ZaraXVI> yes
#1920 [14:06] <mib_694rs2> mei Freund + sein bros hatten den code direkt bekommen :(
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#1922 [14:06] <Leviathan0109> Du fick is this
#1923 [14:06] <mib_694rs2> ja, meine finger sind schon abgeknabbert...
#1924 [14:06] <mib_49qmdm> bloß wir net -.-
#1925 [14:06] <mib_694rs2> Levi, you have to improof your german :D
#1926 [14:06] <mib_49qmdm> :D
#1927 [14:06] <Leviathan0109> Yeah no
#1928 [14:07] <mib_49qmdm> wie alt bist du ?
#1929 [14:07] <mib_694rs2> 22+
#1930 [14:07] <mib_694rs2> *22
#1931 [14:07] <mib_49qmdm> aso ^^
#1932 [14:07] <mib_694rs2> kack plus bei enter...
#1933 [14:07] <mib_694rs2> wie alt du?
#1934 [14:07] <mib_49qmdm> 14
#1935 [14:07] <mib_694rs2> haste die Visa beim vater geklaut?
#1936 [14:07] <mib_49qmdm> mein bruder wollte es mir zum geburtstag schenken
#1937 [14:07] <mib_694rs2> ah...
#1938 [14:07] <mib_49qmdm> ne ^^
#1939 [14:07] <mib_694rs2> naja, is schon kacke
#1940 [14:07] <mib_49qmdm> jo
#1941 [14:08] <mib_694rs2> du kannst aba schomma im browser so eine demo spielen
#1942 [14:08] <mib_694rs2> i-wo...
#1943 [14:08] <ZaraXVI> the demo is old, i thinnk
#1944 [14:08] <mib_49qmdm> ja ich weiß aber es stockt bei mir immer soo
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#1946 [14:08] <mib_694rs2> ah, ok...
#1947 [14:08] <mib_49qmdm> yes and a torrible texture pack
#1948 [14:09] <mib_49qmdm> in the browser :D
#1949 [14:09] <Leviathan0109> Can i get some feedback on a suggestion guys?
#1950 [14:09] <m425653> Is it supposed to take 24+ hours to get sent a gift code after buying it?
#1951 [14:09] <Leviathan0109> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/_flowing_inventory_concept
#1952 [14:09] <Leviathan0109> I don't think so
#1953 [14:09] <mib_694rs2> m425, du auch deutsch?
#1954 [14:09] <m425653> English
#1955 [14:09] <mib_694rs2> aso...
#1956 [14:09] <mib_694rs2> ok
#1957 [14:10] <Leviathan0109> But notch's tumblr said they were or are migrating servers
#1958 [14:10] <Leviathan0109> And they were dedicating one solely to sales
#1959 [14:10] <m425653> -Shrug-
#1960 [14:10] <Leviathan0109> so that may have something to do with it
#1961 [14:10] <mib_694rs2> kk
#1962 [14:11] <mib_49qmdm> naja diese woche kommt es auf jeden fall ;D
#1963 [14:11] <mib_49qmdm> hoff ich doch
#1964 [14:12] <mib_49qmdm> or this week i get the code sure ?
#1965 [14:12] <mib_694rs2> ja, wenn net, dann?
#1966 [14:12] <mib_49qmdm> dann ka
#1967 [14:12] <mib_694rs2> my friend recieved his code 2 mins after paying...
#1968 [14:12] <mib_694rs2> dann amok?
#1969 [14:12] <mib_49qmdm> ^^
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#1971 [14:13] <mib_49qmdm> wenn der diese woche nich da is dann besuch ich mal den netten notch :D
#1972 [14:13] <mib_694rs2> so mein freund, ich verpiss mich, ich muss...
#1973 [14:13] <mib_694rs2> ja :D
#1974 [14:13] <mib_49qmdm> ok
#1975 [14:13] <mib_694rs2> mim panzer und so?
#1976 [14:13] <mib_49qmdm> jo
#1977 [14:13] <mib_694rs2> naja, ich helf gern, bis denne ihr alle
#1978 [14:14] <mib_49qmdm> und granaten *böses lachen*
#1979 [14:14] <mib_49qmdm> xD
#1980 [14:14] <mib_694rs2> CU @ all
#1981 [14:14] <mib_49qmdm> jo caio
#1982 [14:14] <mib_694rs2> haha
#1983 [14:14] <mib_49qmdm> ^^
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#1985 [14:20] <mib_49qmdm> cu @ all
#1986 [14:20] <mib_49qmdm> caio
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#1988 [14:20] <VirtualGun> Hello
#1989 [14:20] <VirtualGun> Can i get some help?
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#1991 [14:22] <Dreadchain> what do you need help with VirtualGun?
#1992 [14:22] <VirtualGun> I was trying to login as i have bought the game but it says user not premium
#1993 [14:23] <Dreadchain> apparently there's some delay with payments
#1994 [14:23] <Dreadchain> I just bought a gift code couple hours ago and didn't get it yet
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#1996 [14:24] <VirtualGun> Oh, i bought it a half hour ago, thanks :)
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#1999 [14:25] <VirtualGun> Actually it was my friend that needed help. I'm buying it tomorrow :). It's such an awesome game though it looks so pixaled makes it kinda nice :)
#2000 [14:26] <fogwraith> Rawr, I need a new router, anyone with a good ideas / tips on a fairly decent one? ;P
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#2003 [14:28] <SkiingPenguins> fogwraith: Linksys WRT54Gv8 is what i have and it works nice
#2004 [14:28] <Arinomi> fogwraith, I can recommend a Linksys WRT54G
#2005 [14:28] <Arinomi> Haha :P
#2006 [14:28] <fogwraith> What's the throughput on one of those? I care *very* little for wireless
#2007 [14:29] <SkiingPenguins> i dont know, my max internet speed is a mere 80 kB/s
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#2009 [14:29] <fogwraith> Imagine shuffling 12 megabytes per second, both directions
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#2014 [14:31] <Arinomi> 12 megaBYTES is alot. I'm not sure if it's right for you, then.
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#2017 [14:31] <zgamer> is anyone here?
#2018 [14:31] <PokIsCool> Hey
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#2020 [14:32] <PokIsCool> Is minecraft down?
#2021 [14:32] <zgamer> was wondering the same
#2022 [14:32] <zgamer> [show] java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections!
#2023 [14:32] <zgamer> =/
#2024 [14:32] <SkiingPenguins> yes the servers have been undergoing upgrades
#2025 [14:32] <PokIsCool> Exactly
#2026 [14:32] <Arinomi> I'm having an error as well, it seems.
#2027 [14:32] <zgamer> ugh, decided to play again, havent played in 1 month lol
#2028 [14:32] <SkiingPenguins> to go up you must go down :)
#2029 [14:32] <fogwraith> Arinomi: need plenty of throughput as there's quite a lot of data being shuffled back and forth :P
#2030 [14:32] <PokIsCool> Crap
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#2033 [14:33] <PokIsCool> When will it be back up? :O
#2034 [14:33] <SkiingPenguins> i have no idea
#2035 [14:33] <SkiingPenguins> within a few days i would assume
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#2037 [14:33] <PokIsCool> a few days!?
#2038 [14:33] <Arinomi> fogwraith: Maybe you should consider a Cisco router then? They are designed for more professional use than the Linksys ones.
#2039 [14:33] <PatSter21> Arinomi, 12megabytes isn't a lot O.o
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#2041 [14:34] <SkiingPenguins> to me it is a lot
#2042 [14:34] <fogwraith> I had a look at a linksys / cisco e2000, but a bit unsure by all the reviews
#2043 [14:34] <Arinomi> I wouldn't know PatSter21, all I get is 1.7 megabytes.
#2044 [14:34] <zgamer> hmm e2000
#2045 [14:34] <zgamer> i got the e2000
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#2047 [14:34] <fogwraith> How's the performance with only cables?
#2048 [14:35] <fogwraith> Reviews tell tales of having to restart the router from time to time
#2049 [14:35] <zgamer> hmm
#2050 [14:35] <zgamer> im using wireless
#2051 [14:35] <zgamer> as im mostly using a laptop
#2052 [14:35] <zgamer> my dad is wired though
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#2054 [14:35] <zgamer> have had the routers about 2 months now, only had to restart it once
#2055 [14:35] <fogwraith> Ah
#2056 [14:35] <fogwraith> So it seems pretty reliable?
#2057 [14:36] <zgamer> yep, having no problems with it except that one time
#2058 [14:36] <zgamer> the speed collapsed to like 300 kb/s instead of 3MB/s
#2059 [14:36] <zgamer> resetted and the problem was gone
#2060 [14:36] <zgamer> so it has never been offline or anything
#2061 [14:36] <Arinomi> fogwraith, my Linksys does need its occasional reboot :P It's a couple of years old.
#2062 [14:36] <fogwraith> Ah, but it stayed online, which is good... my current rig is having heating issues and collisions on the ports ;/
#2063 [14:36] <fogwraith> Which causes it to freeze entirely
#2064 [14:37] <zgamer> i got it because i still had a linksys wrt54gl
#2065 [14:37] <zgamer> which wasnt very good at wireless internet speed
#2066 [14:37] * fogwraith nods
#2066 [14:38] <BarryCarlyon> I dont have much problems speed wise with the wrt54gl tho I run openwrt on it.
#2067 [14:38] <BarryCarlyon> I should probably load/speed test it however.
#2068 [14:38] <zgamer> ugh
#2069 [14:38] <zgamer> dont talk to me about openwrt >.>
#2070 [14:39] <BarryCarlyon> Problems?
#2071 [14:39] <zgamer> hell yeah
#2072 [14:39] <zgamer> it seemed like it corrupted its own memory
#2073 [14:39] <zgamer> every second that passed more and more of the webinterface characters turned into chinese looking ones
#2074 [14:39] <BarryCarlyon> !
#2075 [14:39] <BarryCarlyon> Intriguing
#2076 [14:39] <fogwraith> O_o
#2077 [14:39] <BarryCarlyon> Ouch.
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#2079 [14:40] <zgamer> in the end had to hard-reset it
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#2081 [14:41] <Stealthynoob> Hmm anyone here who could help me out?
#2082 [14:42] <Arinomi> Depends on your problem.
#2083 [14:42] <Stealthynoob> Well its about actually buying minecraft :<
#2084 [14:42] <fogwraith> Ooh, found one called "NETGEAR Rangemax Open Source Wireless-N" that seems quite... decent
#2085 [14:42] <zgamer> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1124519061.png
#2086 [14:43] <Stealthynoob> i dont own a creditcard. and my paypal account has a limitation which i cant seem to get rid of. and those are the only 2 options to pay with right? :/
#2087 [14:43] <zgamer> speedtest of my wireless internet @ e2000 (note: armoured-concrete floor... and upstairs so it takes alot of the wireless speed away)
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#2090 [14:43] <Arinomi> Limitation? I used paypal before I got a credit card, I don't think I had any limitations.. :S
#2091 [14:44] <fogwraith> Looks decent, zgamer
#2092 [14:44] <Stealthynoob> yeah it annoys the crap outta me.. it has a limitation since they Think someone else had acces to it
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#2094 [14:44] <SirEvert> so what's up why can't i play the game online?
#2095 [14:44] <lemon-rev> cause minecraft.net is down
#2096 [14:45] <philroi> anyone figured out a resetiing water flow control?
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#2098 [14:45] <BarryCarlyon> I however am on the girlfriends internet which is a stupid skybox which always drops me out all the time!
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#2100 [14:45] <BarryCarlyon> As just demonstrated :-(
#2101 [14:45] <Stealthynoob> so im wondering. is there a way to buy the game without a creditcard and paypal.. if not. i will never be able to get it
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#2103 [14:45] <zgamer> hmm
#2104 [14:45] <Sebastian> hi all
#2105 [14:45] <BarryCarlyon> Stealthynoob: got a friend with paypal?
#2106 [14:45] <SirEvert> just ask someone you know to pay for it Steath and pay him/her instead
#2107 [14:46] <Stealthynoob> heh nop. im the only one who had one
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#2109 [14:46] <philroi> anyone got a system for an on-off switch for water control figured out? all i've been able to find is one shot sytems.
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#2112 [14:47] <Sebastian> is there any known problem with the servers? i cant connect in game nor can i reach the minecraft.net
#2113 [14:47] <mortisha> same with me, i wanna play
#2114 [14:47] <philroi> its up and down all the time.
#2115 [14:47] <SkiingPenguins> servers are being upgraded
#2116 [14:47] <grand> login error anyone else gettin it?
#2117 [14:47] <philroi> try again in a few minutes
#2118 [14:47] <BarryCarlyon> philroi: there is only one shots. I've not heard anyone got a multishot working.
#2119 [14:47] <Stealthynoob> so do i.. but i cant even buy the game loool
#2120 [14:47] <Sebastian> k, thanks
#2121 [14:48] <philroi> @barry thanks
#2122 [14:48] <BarryCarlyon> np
#2123 [14:48] <philroi> if only water flowed through metal doors.......
#2124 [14:48] <BarryCarlyon> Indeed.
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#2126 [14:49] <BarryCarlyon> There are a couple of interesting methods to sort of do it (things like fire + mob + set fire to reed water flow past reed re grows)
#2127 [14:49] <BarryCarlyon> But thats not really flow control.
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#2129 [14:50] <grand> Login error anyone else getting it halp?
#2130 [14:51] <SkiingPenguins> servers are being upgraded
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#2133 [14:51] <Stealthynoob> i wish i could contact notch or anyone from the team who could help me with this issue..
#2134 [14:51] <grand> ah so have to play in offline :/
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#2136 [14:52] <zgamer> ok think im gonna die @ sp mode
#2137 [14:53] <grand> anyone got a link to bukkit's irc?
#2138 [14:53] <grand> there site is down
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#2140 [14:53] <erik> :((((((((((
#2141 [14:53] <AsathorSey> do they only upgrade the login server? some friends are playing at this moment :/
#2142 [14:54] <erik> am sad.
#2143 [14:54] <tPK> I can't login on either browser or standalone, what happen?
#2144 [14:54] <AsathorSey> its depressing to here them on teamspeak... "mine here..." "mine there..."
#2145 [14:54] <AsathorSey> -here +hear
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#2147 [14:54] <grand> servers are being upgraded
#2148 [14:54] <tPK> which servers?
#2149 [14:55] <ribo> all the servers.
#2150 [14:55] <tPK> wut
#2151 [14:55] <ribo> dunno, just came in here cause I can't auth
#2152 [14:55] <tPK> but right now my own server is runnign and my firends are on it
#2153 [14:55] <ribo> : (
#2154 [14:55] <AsathorSey> know that, tPK :( depressing
#2155 [14:56] <BarryCarlyon> grand: isnt bukkit #bukkit on here? (esper?)
#2156 [14:58] <BarryCarlyon> To clarify. Minecraft are upgrading the login servers. Not the servers you connect to to play. Only the admins of those servers can do upgrades.
#2157 [14:58] <Stealthynoob> so can anyone tell me if theres a different way to buy the game?.
#2158 [14:58] <BarryCarlyon> When you connect to the server your client checks you account which minecraft.net.
#2159 [14:58] <BarryCarlyon> The check ot minecraft.net is being upgraded. Hence you can't login as it is down.
#2160 [14:59] <ribo> BarryCarlyon: any idea when they'll be back up?
#2161 [14:59] <BarryCarlyon> Nope
#2162 [14:59] <BarryCarlyon> Stealthynoob: we already answered. Its either paypal or one of the supported credit/debit cards or get a friend to buy you it or buy you a gift card
#2163 [14:59] <VirtualGun> Hey, my friend has bought the game but when he reached the part it the URL contained the word "Success" minecraft's site had that 504 error. Please help me :)
#2164 [15:00] <Stealthynoob> well. awesome. i wont be buying it then
#2165 [15:00] <tPK> ok so updatingthe client
#2166 [15:00] <BarryCarlyon> VirtualGun: mc.net servers are being upgraded.
#2167 [15:00] <tPK> does it require a server update too?
#2168 [15:00] <BarryCarlyon> tPK: unlikely.
#2169 [15:00] <tPK> thank god
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#2171 [15:00] <VirtualGun> But did the payment go through anyways then?
#2172 [15:01] <BarryCarlyon> VirtualGun: how did you pay?
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#2174 [15:01] <Bananaman> can anyone tell me why when i run minecraft is sais error
#2175 [15:01] <zgamer> server upgrades
#2176 [15:01] <Bananaman> it said*
#2177 [15:01] <BarryCarlyon> Bananaman: on login to client or a server? The login auth server is currently down.
#2178 [15:01] <Bananaman> client
#2179 [15:01] <ribo> somoene should change the topic ;)
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#2181 [15:01] <VirtualGun> With a Visa card
#2182 [15:02] <BarryCarlyon> Bananaman: login auth is down.
#2183 [15:02] <Bananaman> auth?
#2184 [15:02] <BarryCarlyon> VirtualGun: check you bank balance with you bank.
#2185 [15:02] <Bananaman> idk what that is
#2186 [15:02] <Ace22> so is the login server down? or is it just me?
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#2188 [15:02] <BarryCarlyon> Bananaman: when you login to the client it authenticates with minecraft.net. The server that does the authentication is down.
#2189 [15:02] <BarryCarlyon> Ace22: no its everyone.
#2190 [15:02] <Bananaman> say lol my friend is logged on in my server
#2191 [15:02] <Bananaman> say xD
#2192 [15:02] <Ace22> nvm
#2193 [15:03] <BarryCarlyon> Server is intermittent.
#2194 [15:03] <VirtualGun> Well the bank is closed, though i think it went through. Thanks for the help :)
#2195 [15:03] <SkiingPenguins> yall need patience
#2196 [15:03] <BarryCarlyon> Online banking?
#2197 [15:03] <BarryCarlyon> :-P
#2198 [15:03] <drackmore> how can i get the bin files again. i cant login to the main site T.T
#2199 [15:03] <VirtualGun> Hmm i'll try :D
#2200 [15:03] <zgamer> drackmore: you mean the .exe?
#2201 [15:04] <drackmore> no i need the files in the .minecraft folder under the app data folde
#2202 [15:04] <drackmore> i need everything BUT the .exe
#2203 [15:05] <zgamer> ah k
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#2205 [15:06] <LigerXT5> Howdy, anyone know what's up with minecraft.net? it's not coming up and I can't log into the client
#2206 [15:06] <SkiingPenguins> servers being upgraded
#2207 [15:06] <BarryCarlyon> Thats your answer LigerXT5
#2208 [15:06] <SkiingPenguins> people are now spazzing
#2209 [15:07] <BarryCarlyon> Yah.
#2210 [15:07] <SkiingPenguins> dont people read the tumblr thingy or whatever?
#2211 [15:07] <LigerXT5> lol, sorry, my friend and I just got on and noticed we couldn't access either
#2212 [15:07] <drackmore> i do i just am complaining because i need the files
#2213 [15:07] <LigerXT5> I have enough going on with facebook lol
#2214 [15:07] <BarryCarlyon> SkiingPenguins: depends if notch has posted.
#2215 [15:07] <BarryCarlyon> drackmore: windows search
#2216 [15:07] <LigerXT5> I did check tumbler yesterday
#2217 [15:07] <SkiingPenguins> http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2812089385/the-web-server-is-struggling-were-migrating
#2218 [15:08] <BarryCarlyon> Thats a old post SkiingPenguins
#2219 [15:08] <drackmore> BarryCarlyon what do you mean windows search? i know where the files are. i messed up while doing something and i need to re-DL the fieles
#2220 [15:08] <LigerXT5> yea, that's the 18th, it's the 23rd. A sudden shutdown should be notified, at least, that's what the college professors say lol
#2221 [15:08] <drackmore> *files
#2222 [15:09] <BarryCarlyon> drackmore: ah
#2223 [15:09] <LigerXT5> trash can?
#2224 [15:09] <SkiingPenguins> drackmore just wait until servers are back to normal
#2225 [15:09] <BarryCarlyon> drackmore: your stuck till the site comes back online then.
#2226 [15:09] <drackmore> well who knows how long that will be
#2227 [15:09] <BarryCarlyon> drackmore: I am not amazon.
#2228 [15:09] <drackmore> ???
#2229 [15:09] <SkiingPenguins> we do not work for notch and thus cant give you a good answer
#2230 [15:10] <BarryCarlyon> None of us know. We don't work in the amazon data center.
#2231 [15:10] <LigerXT5> lol, it's ok, just thought you guys may have heard something
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#2234 [15:12] <AsathorSey> Website and Login are back on :-D
#2235 [15:12] <AsathorSey> cya, i have to mine ;-)
#2236 [15:12] <LigerXT5> uh, I still don't see the site lol, oh well
#2237 [15:12] <LigerXT5> loging in works, nvm
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#2239 [15:14] <drackmore> >.<;
#2240 [15:14] <Cron553> with the recent update where it lets you find the blue ink block near bedrock and let it drop more ink it has to be on new chunks to find it near bedrock right? also if it isnt a new chunk and you didnt mine it yet will it drop more
#2241 [15:14] <TheReddeH> man those people in risucraft really geek it up a notch
#2242 [15:14] <Cron553> "a notch"
#2243 [15:14] <Cron553> i see what you did there
#2244 [15:14] <TheReddeH> :)
#2245 [15:14] <drackmore> java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections! anyone else getting that when they try to log in?
#2246 [15:15] <drackmore> http://minecraft.net/stats.jsp lol
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#2248 [15:15] <Cron553> but yeah im wondering about the blue ink ore if i happen to find it and it isnt a new chunk will it still drop more?
#2249 [15:16] <Cron553> i think my mine is still in an already generated chunk
#2250 [15:16] <Dreadchain> where do gift codes appear when they do?
#2251 [15:16] <Dreadchain> email? profile page?
#2252 [15:17] <drackmore> profile i believe
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#2254 [15:17] <Cron553> i figure that id have to find new chunks to get them down at near bedrock
#2255 [15:17] <Cron553> cuz my map was started before they changed it and i have hardly ever found it heh
#2256 [15:17] <Cron553> but ive found it in some other places so
#2257 [15:17] <Cron553> just was curious
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#2260 [15:18] <XaoMoaX> Heya. Any idea if it's going to be days or hours with the uploading skins thing?
#2261 [15:19] <feenyx> no clue.
#2262 [15:19] <XaoMoaX> Ah, kk. Just wondered. Now that I'm finally into the game, dying to change my skin
#2263 [15:19] <feenyx> You can bet your bottom dollar there will be an announcement about it on notch.tumblr.com though
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#2265 [15:20] <feenyx> like it says on the page: "Uploading skins is currently disabled until we've migrated the servers fully"
#2266 [15:21] <feenyx> build something awesome in the meantime :)
#2267 [15:25] <XaoMoaX> I've been loving making hillhomes
#2268 [15:25] <XaoMoaX> I lived in one in rl for awhile
#2269 [15:26] <XaoMoaX> So, it's my favorite house in minecraft. Quick to make, easy to expand
#2270 [15:26] <XaoMoaX> If I could only get mining some huge deposits of iron down I'd be cruising.
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#2272 [15:26] <mib_hf902x> hi
#2273 [15:27] <drackmore> ello
#2274 [15:27] <mib_hf902x> how long i need to wait for my account to upgrade to premium?
#2275 [15:27] <feenyx> XaoMoaX: it's usually just a question of mining slightly deeper :)
#2276 [15:27] <feenyx> mib_hf902x: 20 minutes to 20 hours, depending on how messed up the servers are. When did you purchase?
#2277 [15:27] <drackmore> you have to pay to become premium
#2278 [15:27] <mib_hf902x> i paid
#2279 [15:28] <mib_hf902x> thanks feenyx
#2280 [15:28] <mib_hf902x> umm
#2281 [15:28] <feenyx> there's some massive server migration going on at the moment, so things could be delayed
#2282 [15:28] <mib_hf902x> 20 mins ago
#2283 [15:28] <feenyx> oh
#2284 [15:28] <XaoMoaX> Yeah, I've been hammering away, I think I just have a bad location
#2285 [15:29] <feenyx> mib_hf902x: what's your account name? If you don't receive the activation email, you should still be able to check it here with !paid <username>
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#2287 [15:30] <mib_hf902x> !paid iuvenes
#2288 [15:31] <VirtualGun> !paid VirtualGun
#2289 [15:31] <VirtualGun> Nice. Buying tomorrow XD
#2290 [15:31] <VirtualGun> Well g2g guys
#2291 [15:31] <VirtualGun> Cya :D
#2292 [15:32] <mib_hf902x> i have no emails from minecraft
#2293 [15:34] <Cron553> my house atm in minecraft aint that impressive but it's in dirt on an island
#2294 [15:35] <Cron553> tbh i think when i go on multiplayer servers that are just creative with item summoning im more free to be creative
#2295 [15:35] <Cron553> by creative i dont mean the old creative i mean normal smp but with mods
#2296 [15:35] <Cron553> on the specific server
#2297 [15:35] <Cron553> like some houses and stuff i made would prob be hard as hell to do in the actual game
#2298 [15:36] <Cron553> [3:26pm] <XaoMoaX> If I could only get mining some huge deposits of iron down I'd be cruising. <--- i find going down all the way to bedrock and kinda doing strip mining
#2299 [15:36] <Cron553> works good
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#2301 [15:36] <Cron553> like i hit it but then dig up like the max it lets ya
#2302 [15:36] <Cron553> like 6 high
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#2304 [15:36] <Cron553> and then do lil strips
#2305 [15:37] <Omniphagus> Anybody around to help with a question about crashes?
#2306 [15:37] <mbentley> sure, what sort of errors are you getting?
#2307 [15:38] <Cron553> ive found putting the launcher in it's own folder clears all the hs error texts from flooding your desktop
#2308 [15:38] <Cron553> just a bit of a tip
#2309 [15:38] <Cron553> for awhile i had alot of those ending up on my desktop
#2310 [15:38] <Omniphagus> Well, unless it's being logged somewhere, no errors.
#2311 [15:38] <mbentley> then what happens exactly?
#2312 [15:38] <Cron553> do you see hs_err txt files anywhere?
#2313 [15:38] <Omniphagus> And yes, I am using the launcher and it is in its own folder
#2314 [15:38] <Omniphagus> Let me look real quick
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#2316 [15:38] <Cron553> hs_err_pidXXX.log
#2317 [15:38] <Cron553> do you see any that look like this?
#2318 [15:39] <Cron553> xxx for random numbers
#2319 [15:39] <Omniphagus> Not in the same folder as the executable
#2320 [15:39] <GuluGulu> does anyone having prob loading the website ?
#2321 [15:39] <Cron553> but you see em?
#2322 [15:39] <Omniphagus> would it be in the profile?
#2323 [15:39] <mbentley> Cron553: you can also put the exe wherever you like and create a shortcut with the working directory whereever you want the error logs to go
#2324 [15:39] <Omniphagus> I don't see any.
#2325 [15:39] <Cron553> i have that issue sometimes too
#2326 [15:40] <Omniphagus> So I am not seeing any log files
#2327 [15:40] <wesmagyar> dont you just love it when your digging up and a creeper lands on your head?
#2328 [15:40] <Cron553> i think my fav creeper moment was in a youtube video where the guy is like
#2329 [15:41] <Cron553> "what the shit BOOOOOOOOOOM"
#2330 [15:41] <Omniphagus> What's happening though: it seems (not entirely sure) that when loading new areas, minecraft likes to just freeze up. The screen goes black, I have to end the process.
#2331 [15:41] <Cron553> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF9xMNuAfwE
#2332 [15:41] <Cron553> this is the video
#2333 [15:41] <Cron553> its funny
#2334 [15:42] <Omniphagus> Sometimes entire blocks of terrain won't load too, but I am not sure if that's related
#2335 [15:42] <mbentley> Omniphagus: i get that sometimes too. it will randomly happen after playing for a while
#2336 [15:42] <Cron553> hmmm
#2337 [15:44] <Omniphagus> Which one, the black screen or the unloaded terrain?
#2338 [15:45] <mbentley> black screen
#2339 [15:46] <mbentley> used to have the terrain loading issue but not really anymore
#2340 [15:46] <sTEINHAUG> Someone know how to fix the "Java error" thing that make me disconnect from servers after 30sec?
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#2342 [15:47] <i81u812> is there anyway to fix a coruppted map file?
#2343 [15:47] <i81u812> corrupted
#2344 [15:47] <i81u812> ...
#2345 [15:47] <Omniphagus> how's it corrupted?
#2346 [15:48] <i81u812> I was playing the game and my daughter bumped the computer and it shut off and now the file says the correct file size as my map but says empty on the game
#2347 [15:49] <mbentley> i81u812: sometimes opening a map in mcedit and then saving it works
#2348 [15:49] <GuluGulu> 500 Servlet Exception : anyone familiar with that error after loading minecraft main website
#2349 [15:49] <i81u812> ok ill give that a go
#2350 [15:49] <GuluGulu> ?
#2351 [15:49] <i81u812> you know where I can find that prog?
#2352 [15:49] <mbentley> not sure. check the minecraftwiki
#2353 [15:49] <i81u812> nvm
#2354 [15:49] <i81u812> found it
#2355 [15:50] <Omniphagus> gulugulu it looks like a lot of people are having that, but I've not seen an answer myself
#2356 [15:51] <GuluGulu> Omni: ic ty , i thougt for a moment it was my broswer and addon issue , i geuss it's not
#2357 [15:51] <GuluGulu> (fyim that's with firefox)
#2358 [15:51] <GuluGulu> fyi*
#2359 [15:52] <Omniphagus> Oh yeah, the secret bonus part to my problem:
#2360 [15:53] <GuluGulu> anyone got time for some private chat help with some basic MC questions (totaly new) ?
#2361 [15:53] <Omniphagus> after dealing with a bunch of crashes while playing a day or two ago, it seemed like my video card/driver restarted
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#2364 [15:54] <Omniphagus> which then, even after rebooting, prevented me from playing basically any game due to artifact errors and eventually crashes
#2365 [15:54] <Omniphagus> I had to completely uninstall and then reinstall my video drivers
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#2367 [15:57] <i81u812> ok well ive never used mcedit, how do I save the level after its open?
#2368 [15:57] <i81u812> i'e*
#2369 [15:57] <i81u812> wtf
#2370 [15:57] <i81u812> ??? anyone?
#2371 [15:57] <mbentley> not sure, should just be like file save
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#2377 [16:03] <verbalins> My java crashes before seeing the mojang logo. Tried reinstalling both java and minecraft, but no luck. anyone recognize this error?
#2378 [16:04] <GuluGulu> verb you mean 500 Servlet Exception
#2379 [16:04] <GuluGulu> ?
#2380 [16:04] <i81u812> so what happened didnt make a whole lot of sense it loaded me a "new" map but it was my map ive been playing for a couple months. When it loaded it said 0.0 mb but it loaded 32 like it should have and moved my spawn point....
#2381 [16:05] <i81u812> I have everything but a couple ?bushels? of wood....
#2382 [16:05] <i81u812> I dont want to say something un pc
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#2385 [16:06] <i81u812> and it still says 0.0 mb when I saved and went back
#2386 [16:07] <verbalins> GuluGulu: No, it just gives me a java vm crash as soon as I've logged in.
#2387 [16:07] <verbalins> Windows classifies it as an appcrash.
#2388 [16:07] <GuluGulu> that's with browser right ?
#2389 [16:08] <verbalins> GuluGulu: Nope, the beta client.
#2390 [16:09] <verbalins> Problemhändelsens namn: APPCRASH Programnamn: javaw.exe Programversion: 6.0.220.4 Programtidsstämpel: 4c9088dd Namn på felmodul: nvoglv64.DLL
#2391 [16:09] <GuluGulu> well there was an 500 Servlet Exception error on website also
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#2393 [16:09] <GuluGulu> and i just refresh it and is working now
#2394 [16:09] <verbalins> APPCRASH, javaw.exe, 6.0.220.4, nvoglv64.DLL
#2395 [16:09] <GuluGulu> 500 Servlet Exception: fixed
#2396 [16:09] <GuluGulu> try again now imo !
#2397 [16:09] <GuluGulu> maybe it was related or something
#2398 [16:10] <mbentley> verbalins: that looks like it could be related the nvidia drivers
#2399 [16:10] <verbalins> mbentley: Yeah, I would suppose with the nvoglv.
#2400 [16:10] <verbalins> Weird though.
#2401 [16:10] <mbentley> updated from nvidia.com?
#2402 [16:11] <verbalins> I mean, I haven't updated it in a while now and it just started happening. May be something new with the beta.
#2403 [16:11] <verbalins> I'll try that.
#2404 [16:22] <mdt7734> is the mcmyadmin private version ugood to use?
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#2406 [16:24] <mib_niq9y1> hello!
#2407 [16:24] <GuluGulu> hi
#2408 [16:24] <mib_niq9y1> anyone know if redstone is bugged
#2409 [16:24] <mbentley> how so?
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#2411 [16:25] <wutz> i'm having problems with minecraft crashing on windows 7, i was here yesterday and people tried to help but i tried their solutions last night and it hasn't solved the problem, could somebody try to help me troubleshoot
#2412 [16:25] <mib_niq9y1> I have a stone button changing a track on my cart system but it wont change back
#2413 [16:25] <sTEINHAUG> Anyone know how to fix the error im getting after 30sec joining a server? Getting some type of Java error msg.
#2414 [16:25] <mib_niq9y1> update java
#2415 [16:26] <sTEINHAUG> done it :p
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#2417 [16:26] <mib_niq9y1> unintsall java then reinstall it
#2418 [16:26] <wutz> here are some details regarding my problem
#2419 [16:26] <contagiousduck> anybody available to help me out?
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#2421 [16:27] <contagiousduck> I, for some reason, cannot connect to minecraft.net... I can't go to the website, can't connect through my browser, and can't connect through the client. If i do as much as walk to my neighbors house and use their wifi, I connect fine.
#2422 [16:27] <wutz> problem: minecraft reboots my laptop 10-15 minutes after i start playing. it doesn't give any sort of warning, there's no BSOD, there are no audio or video problems prior to reboot, nothing.
#2423 [16:28] <mbentley> wutz: tried updating your video drivers?
#2424 [16:28] <wutz> yeah i did that yesterday, i've tried a ton of things
#2425 [16:28] <wutz> let me list the fixes i've tried
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#2427 [16:28] <verbalins> mbentley: Yeah, that solved it, thanks!
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#2429 [16:29] <mbentley> contagiousduck: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_net_down_ish
#2430 [16:29] <mib_niq9y1> Redstone issues: I have a stone button changing a track on my cart system but it wont change back
#2431 [16:29] <asdf> What do I need for minecraft to run smoothly
#2432 [16:29] <asdf> ??
#2433 [16:29] <mbentley> mib_niq9y1: a button is a momentary switch
#2434 [16:29] <mbentley> so that could be why
#2435 [16:29] <mib_niq9y1> I mean a plate
#2436 [16:30] <asdf> ?
#2437 [16:30] <mib_niq9y1> pressure plate
#2438 [16:30] <mbentley> so when you depress it, it doesn't change?
#2439 [16:30] <mib_niq9y1> stone
#2440 [16:30] <wutz> attempted fixes: turn on frame limiter, turned down view distance, turned down all other settings (bobbing, some other 3d something), updated graphics card driver, updated audio driver, installed java 64 bit and forced minecraft to run on 64 bit java
#2441 [16:30] <wutz> maybe some other things i'm forgetting
#2442 [16:30] <mbentley> i had one in my world and it worked fine with redstone to a switch
#2443 [16:30] <wutz> i ran prime95 yesterday on the advice of someone here but it ran stable
#2444 [16:30] <mib_niq9y1> it switches but wont switch back
#2445 [16:30] <contagiousduck> So it works for my neighbor and not for me?
#2446 [16:31] <wutz> my computer can handle pretty much top of the line games without a problem
#2447 [16:31] <mbentley> contagiousduck: probably a DNS issue
#2448 [16:31] <mib_niq9y1> your router is blocking it
#2449 [16:31] <mbentley> i wouldn't say your router is blocking it
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#2451 [16:31] <mib_niq9y1> or fire wall
#2452 [16:31] <mbentley> you are probably just using different dns settings
#2453 [16:31] <mib_niq9y1> ethier or
#2454 [16:32] <mbentley> contagiousduck: do a 'nslookup minecraft.net' from the command prompt
#2455 [16:32] <mbentley> see what IP address it resolves to
#2456 [16:33] <contagiousduck> I run mac :-/ ill figure out how to do it though ill be back
#2457 [16:33] <mbentley> ah
#2458 [16:33] <mib_niq9y1> but yea I have a pressure Plate to change track but it wont change back after I get off the plate
#2459 [16:33] <mbentley> terminal then
#2460 [16:33] <mbentley> nslookup should exist for a mac
#2461 [16:33] <contagiousduck> ok ill try
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#2463 [16:34] <contagiousduck> connection timed out no servers could be reached
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#2465 [16:35] <mbentley> that could be why.
#2466 [16:35] <mbentley> might consider switching to google's dns >> http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html
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#2468 [16:35] <mbentley> at least to test
#2469 [16:35] <contagiousduck> ok i will try that
#2470 [16:35] <Zafara> Hee Guys, I got some major lag issues with Minecraft and Im really out of ideas what to do about it.
#2471 [16:36] <mbentley> Zafara: specs of your system?
#2472 [16:36] <Zafara> Windows 7 X64, 4GB Ram nVidia gForce 9600GTM
#2473 [16:37] <Zafara> Never had issues before but since beta its all screwed.
#2474 [16:37] <Zafara> Reinstalled java, deleted all minecraft shit. Defragmentated my drives. Run as admin and Priority is on High. Compatability modes not working. Out of ideas here.
#2475 [16:37] <Omniphagus> this may be early, but my problem seems to be fixed
#2476 [16:37] <mbentley> Zafara: updated your video drivers from nvidia.com?
#2477 [16:38] <Omniphagus> zafara lag as in ping lag or lag as in gameplay lag
#2478 [16:38] <Zafara> Gameplay lag.
#2479 [16:38] <Zafara> but it only occurs when i resize the windows
#2480 [16:38] <Zafara> standard size never gives problems but thats like super small in a 29inch screen
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#2482 [16:38] <Zafara> Nvidia drivers updated around 12 days ago
#2483 [16:39] <contagiousduck> also, real quick... Is there a specific error that you get when trying to connect to a server that you are banned from? I dont think this is an issue but want to make sure
#2484 [16:39] <wutz> here i just wrote down all the info i can think of regarding my problem
#2485 [16:39] <wutz> problem: minecraft reboots my laptop 10-15 minutes after i start playing. it doesn't give any sort of warning, there's no BSOD, there are no audio or video problems prior to reboot, nothing.
#2486 [16:39] <wutz> system: operating system - windows 7 home premium 64-bit, system model - qosmio x505, processor - intel(r) core(tm) i7 cpu q 720 @ 1.60ghz (8 cpus), memory - 4096 ram, directx version - directx 11, display - nvidia geforce gts 250m, sound - conexant pebble high definition, can run relatively top of the line games without comparable issues to what happens when running minecraft
#2487 [16:39] <wutz> attempted fixes: turn on frame limiter, turned down view distance, turned down all other settings (bobbing, some other 3d something), updated graphics card driver, updated audio driver, installed java 64 bit and forced minecraft to run on 64 bit java, ran prime95 and it ran stable
#2488 [16:39] <wutz> additional info: problem started a couple weeks ago probably after a minecraft update, was able to play on this computer fine for a month or so before that, made no changes to the computer which would account for the problem. turning the settings (viewdistance specifically) down on minecraft feels like it might delay the reboot (i'm not sure whether it does or not), but it doesn't
#2489 [16:39] <wutz> prevent it. i have real temp installed and can monitor my cpu temperatures while i'm playing, and they do get hot, but i don't know if the reboot is actually caused by an overheating issue, because cpus on this laptop tend to run hot any time i'm playing any sort of game, and i haven't necessarily noticed a heat spike immediately before reboots, though it's hard to know for sure since
#2490 [16:39] <wutz> i'm not given any warning when a reboot is about to happen.
#2491 [16:40] <mbentley> ah, next time use pastebin.com
#2492 [16:40] <peru> i think i had that a year ago or so on my pc
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#2494 [16:40] <peru> i also think the problem stopped after i removed all dust from my gpu's cooling vents
#2495 [16:41] <peru> but you have laptop, so no help here :/
#2496 [16:41] <wutz> i'm on a laptop i've tried cleaning it out but i don't really know how/if i can access that stuff
#2497 [16:41] <wutz> i've tried taking it apart but even then it seems like that stuff is stashed away
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#2500 [16:41] <Zafaraa> I love FF crashes
#2501 [16:41] <wutz> is there some program i can install which will limit my gpu temp somehow?
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#2504 [16:46] <m425653> http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php is probably the closest you'll get.
#2505 [16:46] <wutz> also, does windows 7 have any sort of log file which would tell me why it's rebooting?
#2506 [16:46] <wutz> thanks for the link i'll go take a look
#2507 [16:47] <m425653> I've only used it to monitor temperatures, but you can apparently change fan speeds with it.
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#2509 [16:49] <wutz> while i'm doing that i might as well ask another question
#2510 [16:49] <wutz> i just started a minecraft server a few days ago
#2511 [16:49] <wutz> and while i have a few questions related to that, the most important one is this:
#2512 [16:50] <wutz> eventually after playing on a world for a while, java errors will pop up
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#2514 [16:50] <wutz> they seem to be related either to boats, minecarts, or arrows
#2515 [16:50] <wutz> something about null pointer
#2516 [16:50] <coolnoob> hello could i get some help?
#2517 [16:50] <wutz> in some cases, they have made the entire world unplayable
#2518 [16:50] <wutz> and i've had to delete it and have the server create a new one
#2519 [16:50] <wutz> is this a familiar issue
#2520 [16:51] <coolnoob> Is there an admin in herre?
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#2522 [16:51] <mbentley> what do you need coolnoob?
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#2524 [16:52] <mbentley> wutz: that sounds very odd
#2525 [16:52] <coolnoob> i bought minecraft on another email
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#2527 [16:52] <Dreadchain> anyone got any payments through today?
#2528 [16:52] <coolnoob> i use email monkeynumber20@yahoo.com to play but i bought minecraft on chelofmm...
#2529 [16:52] <coolnoob> my dad it was an accident.
#2530 [16:53] <Chris92merchant> I purchased a gift code about 17 hours ago. Does anyone know the usual wait time for the e-mail with the code?
#2531 [16:53] <GuluGulu> NAPT can drive you crazy with configuration some times :S:S:S:S
#2532 [16:53] <mbentley> typically can be up to 24 hours, can depend on payment type
#2533 [16:54] <mbentley> could be there is a problem with the payments hitting the minecraft.net servers since they just migrated the servers recently
#2534 [16:54] <Chris92merchant> ok, thanks. I am just ready for my son to start playing. My purchase for ymself went right through, it was just the gift code that was delayed.
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#2536 [16:54] <coolnoob> mbentley will i get a code on my email?
#2537 [16:55] <mbentley> coolnoob: you should or you should be able to see it at minecraft.net on the profile page
#2538 [16:55] <coolnoob> But i bought the game without being login.
#2539 [16:55] <coolnoob> with another email.
#2540 [16:55] <coolnoob> do i have to now use that email to play?
#2541 [16:56] <mbentley> check your junk email, etc?
#2542 [16:56] <coolnoob> yeah
#2543 [16:56] <coolnoob> like 30 min now still have not gotten anything
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#2546 [16:56] <sensity> hello
#2547 [16:56] <mbentley> how did you pay coolnoob?
#2548 [16:56] <coolnoob> With a visa card.
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#2550 [16:57] <mbentley> credit cards tend to take longer to process
#2551 [16:57] <sensity_> hello
#2552 [16:57] <coolnoob> so it will be an hour or two?
#2553 [16:57] <coolnoob> then i should get an email with a passowrd?
#2554 [16:57] <sensity_> Can someone help me about MCAdmin. ?
#2555 [16:57] <mbentley> usually minecraft.net won't get any notification until the payment shows up on your cc statement online
#2556 [16:57] <sensity_> Cant ?
#2557 [16:58] <coolnoob> what is a cc statement?
#2558 [16:58] <mbentley> credit card statement
#2559 [16:58] <pbc2> lol...
#2560 [16:58] <coolnoob> Okay on this email i get will i get a code?
#2561 [16:58] <mbentley> yes you should
#2562 [16:59] <coolnoob> alright i just have to wait it out then?
#2563 [16:59] <mbentley> yup
#2564 [17:00] <coolnoob> i just turned on minecraft and it worded
#2565 [17:00] <coolnoob> worked..
#2566 [17:00] <coolnoob> from the Browser.
#2567 [17:01] <mbentley> good deal
#2568 [17:01] <coolnoob> looks like i got it to work thanks
#2569 [17:02] <coolnoob> Thanks again bye
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#2571 [17:02] <Solvius> do the trees still grow underground or is that chaged ?
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#2573 [17:03] <mbentley> as far as i know it should still work
#2574 [17:03] <Solvius> hmmm, i use one block of dirt to grow a tree
#2575 [17:05] <mbentley> should be sufficient
#2576 [17:05] <Chris92merchant> mbentley: my gift code purchase showed on my card about an hour after my gift code purchase. Could something else be wrong that is making it take so long?
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#2578 [17:05] <Solvius> yes I thought so, but I planted them at least 3 hours ago, and still no grow at all :)
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#2581 [17:05] <coolnoob> i sorry i have another question.
#2582 [17:06] <mbentley> Chris92merchant: could be. are you able to check minecraft.net?
#2583 [17:06] <Cal44> Hi
#2584 [17:06] <Chris92merchant> yes, my main account is working. It's jsut the gift code for my son I never got.
#2585 [17:06] <Cal44> i have one question
#2586 [17:06] <mbentley> Solvius: trees staying in the loaded chunk?
#2587 [17:06] <Cal44> why stand this on www.minecraft.net
#2588 [17:06] <Cal44> o far 0 people have registered and 0 people bought the game.
#2589 [17:06] <mbentley> but Chris92merchant, do you see the code @ minecraft.net?
#2590 [17:06] <Chris92merchant> sorry, no sir, I do not.
#2591 [17:06] <Solvius> I dont understand mbentley. what do you mean ?
#2592 [17:06] <mbentley> Cal44: they removed the script that did that temporarily
#2593 [17:07] <Cal44> ah kk ^^
#2594 [17:07] <Cal44> thx
#2595 [17:07] <coolnoob> mbentley how do you make a server for just you and a friend?
#2596 [17:07] <mbentley> trees won't grow if they aren't loaded into memory (ie - you aren't within the proper distance)
#2597 [17:07] <Cal44> do you know why www.minecraft.de is down?
#2598 [17:07] <mbentley> coolnoob: check the faq link
#2599 [17:07] <mbentley> never heard of minecraft.de
#2600 [17:07] <coolnoob> send me a link plz
#2601 [17:08] <Solvius> hmmm dont get it :) srry
#2602 [17:08] <Chris92merchant> Coolnoob it's in the topic
#2603 [17:08] <mbentley> link to?
#2604 [17:08] <mbentley> oh
#2605 [17:08] <mbentley> yeah, type /topic
#2606 [17:08] <mbentley> one sec Solvius
#2607 [17:08] <GuluGulu> anyone having time to check if he can connect on my server ?
#2608 [17:09] <GuluGulu> remotely
#2609 [17:09] <Solvius> i have
#2610 [17:09] <mbentley> Trees will only grow if they are planted on a chunk of the map that is loaded into memory. If you plant saplings and then explore another more distant area of your world for a few Minecraft days, they will still be saplings when you return.
#2611 [17:09] <Solvius> hmmm I did plant them close by, I am making an underground sappeling farm :)
#2612 [17:10] <Solvius> gulugulu I have
#2613 [17:10] <Solvius> time
#2614 [17:10] <GuluGulu> kk ill pm you with ip
#2615 [17:10] <GuluGulu> ty
#2616 [17:10] <Solvius> ok
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#2618 [17:10] <GuluGulu> wonna check if i have fixed NAPT protocol cos speedtouch 530 has some issues witha that
#2619 [17:11] <Cal44> why is the german minecraft site down?
#2620 [17:11] <GuluGulu> omg seems like is working
#2621 [17:11] <mbentley> spoiler: the only official minecraft site is minecraft.net
#2622 [17:11] <GuluGulu> solvius are u in ?
#2623 [17:11] <Solvius> I'm in GuluGulu
#2624 [17:11] <GuluGulu> D:D:D:D
#2625 [17:12] <GuluGulu> ty alot man !!
#2626 [17:12] <Solvius> yw
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#2628 [17:13] <Drule> Is there a good Minecraft host somewhere?
#2629 [17:13] <Drule> I'm currently using HostedGameServers and it's terrible.
#2630 [17:14] <mbentley> minecraft definitely takes more resources than many other servers
#2631 [17:16] <Solvius> mbentley its an mp map, so i leave those trees there for the night maybe they pick up tommorow
#2632 [17:16] <Cal44> warum ist www.minecraft.de down?
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#2634 [17:17] <sTEINHAUG> is it posible to move a server to a other "server hoster"?
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#2636 [17:19] <mbentley> sTEINHAUG: should be
#2637 [17:20] <mbentley> you just need the world files
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#2640 [17:21] <alekhines45> Anyone here?
#2641 [17:21] <mbentley> yeah
#2642 [17:21] <alekhines45> awesomes
#2643 [17:21] <alekhines45> I'm getting "Can't find accelerated OpenGL node" on startup
#2644 [17:21] <mbentley> updated your video card drivers?
#2645 [17:21] <alekhines45> yeah, and java
#2646 [17:21] <Asti> Hello i have problem with Minecraft im getting error "OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_21, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)] org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated" my graphics card its
#2647 [17:22] <Asti> Sis mirrage 3 (sis672)
#2648 [17:22] <mbentley> from the manufacturer's website?
#2649 [17:22] <alekhines45> yeah
#2650 [17:22] <mbentley> Asti: that likely does not support opengl 2.0
#2651 [17:22] <alekhines45> if it helps, my card is an intel 4 express chipset
#2652 [17:22] <alekhines45> the drivers say they do OpenGL
#2653 [17:22] <mbentley> alekhines45: is that the entire error?
#2654 [17:23] <alekhines45> no
#2655 [17:23] <alekhines45> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=151189&p=2184582
#2656 [17:23] <alekhines45> that is a forum post of mine with all the info I could think of
#2657 [17:23] <mbentley> ok thanks
#2658 [17:24] <mbentley> might try to go to %appdata%\.minecraft and deleting the 'bin' folder and restarting minecraft
#2659 [17:24] <mbentley> has it worked before?
#2660 [17:24] <alekhines45> ok
#2661 [17:24] <alekhines45> no
#2662 [17:25] <Asti> Im sure that card supports Opengl 1.4+ or even 2.0
#2663 [17:25] <Asti> It supports too directx 9.0c
#2664 [17:26] <alekhines45> no dice, same error
#2665 [17:26] <mbentley> Asti: update your drivers then
#2666 [17:26] <mbentley> alekhines45: did you get drivers from dell.com?
#2667 [17:26] <alekhines45> yeah
#2668 [17:26] <alekhines45> I also checked intel.com
#2669 [17:26] <alekhines45> they had the same version
#2670 [17:26] <mbentley> odd
#2671 [17:27] <mbentley> usually just updating your video drivers solves it
#2672 [17:27] <alekhines45> not for me :P
#2673 [17:27] <alekhines45> tho for some reason it runs perfectly for me on linux
#2674 [17:27] <alekhines45> but only on linux
#2675 [17:28] <Asti> I already downloaded newest but it dont helps i want to ask someone with same card made it work ?
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#2677 [17:28] <alekhines45> also, FF runs minecraft with lots of lag on both os's
#2678 [17:28] <mbentley> Asti: you will be hard pressed to find another person running a SiS card
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#2681 [17:32] <mbentley> i don't really see anything that sticks out besides just the video drivers for you alekhines45
#2682 [17:32] <alekhines45> hmm
#2683 [17:32] <alekhines45> oh well, linux boots faster anyway xD
#2684 [17:33] <Pinball_wizard> When I log on I get en error then a block
#2685 [17:33] <alekhines45> thanks
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#2687 [17:35] <Pinball_wizard> because of that I can't connect to minecraft.net, only play offline
#2688 [17:36] <mbentley> 'en error then a block' ?
#2689 [17:37] <Pinball_wizard> like the can't connect to minecraft.net message
#2690 [17:37] <Pinball_wizard> but it says error
#2691 [17:38] <mbentley> Pinball_wizard: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_net_down_ish
#2692 [17:39] <mbentley> sounds like your dns servers are not getting the minecraft.net dns changes properly
#2693 [17:39] <Pinball_wizard> it's not a gateway time out
#2694 [17:40] <mbentley> right
#2695 [17:40] <mbentley> but they have migrated the servers (if you read towards the bottom)
#2696 [17:40] <Pinball_wizard> it actually says "error"
#2697 [17:40] <mbentley> some dns servers aren't liking the changes. what is the exact entire error message?
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#2699 [17:44] <Pinball_wizard> it's "error" but with a open box at the end, not a symbol on the keybord
#2700 [17:45] <Pinball_wizard> and I can axcess the minecraft website
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#2702 [17:45] <mbentley> could you take a screen shot or something of this message?
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#2704 [17:46] <Pinball_wizard> I guess
#2705 [17:46] <Pinball_wizard> wow
#2706 [17:46] <Pinball_wizard> I tried it again for the thousandth time and it worked
#2707 [17:47] <mbentley> odd but good :)
#2708 [17:47] <Pinball_wizard> I guess
#2709 [17:47] <patrickiej> I have a question
#2710 [17:47] <mbentley> ok
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#2712 [17:48] <patrickiej> Is it possible to see what the ppl say in the game (classic) on IRC
#2713 [17:49] <patrickiej> ??
#2714 [17:49] <feenyx> the two are not connected in any way
#2715 [17:49] <feenyx> you'd need the people that set up the server to have a mod running to transcribe everything to irc
#2716 [17:50] <patrickiej> yea so its possible
#2717 [17:50] <patrickiej> Its my server btw
#2718 [17:50] <feenyx> I've not heard of any such mod/addon, but it's technically doable
#2719 [17:51] <patrickiej> Hmm
#2720 [17:51] <patrickiej> Cuz my server is on my laptop and i want to chech evrything witch irc on my iPhone
#2721 [17:51] <patrickiej> Check*
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#2723 [17:54] <mbentley> you would have to write something that parsed the server.log file
#2724 [17:54] <mbentley> i would guess
#2725 [17:55] <feenyx> someone might have made such a program, but you'd need to google it I guess
#2726 [17:56] <patrickiej> Ok i am gonna search
#2727 [17:57] * xales pokes #minecrafthelp
#2727 [17:57] * feenyx pokes XaoafkoaX
#2727 [17:57] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#2728 [17:57] <feenyx> damn you autocomplete
#2729 [17:57] <pbc2> so i still cant login
#2730 [17:57] <pbc2> yay
#2731 [17:58] <SkiingPenguins> i can
#2732 [17:58] * feenyx pokes xales
#2732 [17:58] <pbc2> good 4 u
#2733 [17:58] <feenyx> pbc2: did you try the dns purge thing?
#2734 [17:58] <pbc2> yep
#2735 [17:58] <pbc2> im using open dns
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#2737 [17:58] <SkiingPenguins> i use google public dns
#2738 [17:58] <feenyx> googles works
#2739 [17:58] <xales> feenyx: it isnt failing to resolve for him, his password is wrong.
#2740 [17:59] <SkiingPenguins> o.O
#2741 [17:59] <buckb> Can some1 help me with setting up mai server, Mac OSX 10.6
#2742 [17:59] <feenyx> aha
#2743 [17:59] <xales> anyway, i'm not going to ask you to stop complaining again, pbc2
#2744 [17:59] <pbc2> no never have
#2745 [17:59] <xales> buckb: what do you get stuck with
#2746 [17:59] <pbc2> you
#2747 [17:59] <buckb> chmod a+x wont work
#2748 [18:00] <buckb> Permission Denied
#2749 [18:00] <xales> pbc2: indeed i have
#2750 [18:00] <pbc2> nope
#2751 [18:00] <mbentley> buckb: need to be root
#2752 [18:00] <buckb> how do i do that?
#2753 [18:00] <SkiingPenguins> sudo?
#2754 [18:00] <SkiingPenguins> or whatever that is on macs
#2755 [18:00] <mbentley> not sure on a mac... do you know the root password?
#2756 [18:00] <buckb> yes
#2757 [18:00] <mbentley> su -
#2758 [18:00] <mbentley> then cd to the directory and then run the command
#2759 [18:01] <buckb> ok
#2760 [18:01] <xales> sudo on mac works
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#2762 [18:01] <mbentley> might be getting a macbook soon
#2763 [18:01] <xales> su will not, root login disabled by default
#2764 [18:01] <mbentley> ah ok
#2765 [18:01] <mbentley> good to know xales
#2766 [18:01] <pbc2> macs suck all your doing is paying for the name
#2767 [18:02] <mbentley> pbc2: have you used one? they are solid machines
#2768 [18:02] <pbc2> yep
#2769 [18:02] <xales> which is dumb, i get root by holding S to boot into single user mode silly apple
#2770 [18:02] <pbc2> have you used a pc?
#2771 [18:02] <pbc2> their solid machiens
#2772 [18:02] * mbentley throws sporks at pbc2
#2772 [18:02] <feenyx> don't feed the troll
#2773 [18:02] <buckb> su - isnt working, says sorry after entering passwd
#2774 [18:03] <pbc2> ibuypower.com and you can get 100% more power for 1/4 the price of a macbook
#2775 [18:03] <SkiingPenguins> Public Bitching Company 2 <- pbc2
#2776 [18:03] <mbentley> sorry buckb, just add 'sudo' in front of the command as xales suggested
#2777 [18:03] <buckb> ok, thanks
#2778 [18:03] <mbentley> says the guy who doesn't know his password'
#2779 [18:03] <pbc2> i know my password
#2780 [18:03] <pbc2> it just dosnt work
#2781 [18:03] <SkiingPenguins> orlly
#2782 [18:03] <pbc2> yarly
#2783 [18:04] <pbc2> if there was an actually support that actually helps
#2784 [18:04] <pbc2> then i woudldnt be complaining
#2785 [18:04] <buckb> still permission denied
#2786 [18:04] <feenyx> this is not an actual support
#2787 [18:04] <pbc2> ive noticed that
#2788 [18:04] <mbentley> not like we have access to the actualy system
#2789 [18:04] <feenyx> this is volunteer help with game-related issues
#2790 [18:04] <mbentley> *actual
#2791 [18:04] <feenyx> what you have is not a game-related issue
#2792 [18:05] <pbc2> iknow
#2793 [18:05] <patrickiej> I have one i guess
#2794 [18:05] <pbc2> thats why i need real support
#2795 [18:05] <pbc2> :O
#2796 [18:05] <mbentley> only reason i am actually considering getting a macbook is because i have a decent chunk of a gift card from my work to the apple store
#2797 [18:05] <patrickiej> Craftirc
#2798 [18:05] <feenyx> so may I respectfully request you kindly fuck off, and take your problem through the proper channels and stop whining incessantly about it in here?
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#2800 [18:05] <SkiingPenguins> uh
#2801 [18:05] <pbc2> proper channels?
#2802 [18:06] <pbc2> which channel do i need to go to
#2803 [18:06] <mbentley> not literally irc channels
#2804 [18:06] <feenyx> email mojang
#2805 [18:06] <pbc2> ive done that
#2806 [18:06] <feenyx> then wait for an answer
#2807 [18:06] <pbc2> several times
#2808 [18:06] <pbc2> i have
#2809 [18:06] <pbc2> 3days now
#2810 [18:06] <feenyx> and just what is it that you wrongfully believe we can do about the matter?
#2811 [18:07] <pbc2> get someone to help me
#2812 [18:07] <feenyx> we can't.
#2813 [18:07] <pbc2> thats retarted
#2814 [18:07] <mbentley> ...
#2815 [18:07] <SkiingPenguins> as are you
#2816 [18:08] <SkiingPenguins> haha you said tart
#2817 [18:08] <pbc2> a help channel that has no contact with the dev's
#2818 [18:08] <SkiingPenguins> this is community help
#2819 [18:08] <SkiingPenguins> not dev help
#2820 [18:08] <SkiingPenguins> not official help
#2821 [18:08] <pbc2> duh?
#2822 [18:08] <feenyx> we can't take the blame for you misconceptions about our function
#2823 [18:08] <mbentley> well it is official but we don't have account access
#2824 [18:09] <xales> well, we can verify accounts but that is about it
#2825 [18:09] <pbc2> !paid pbc243
#2826 [18:10] <pbc2> yup i paid alright
#2827 [18:10] <xales> i actually may ask about making the channel more official and giving us something more
#2828 [18:10] <pbc2> should do that
#2829 [18:10] <xales> specially since they refer people to us in emails now
#2830 [18:10] <mbentley> they would have to design a system for us to interface with too which would definitely take time
#2831 [18:10] <SkiingPenguins> they have a small staff o_O
#2832 [18:11] <pbc2> hire more ppl
#2833 [18:11] <pbc2> problem solved
#2834 [18:11] <Asti> Anyone here have SIS mirage graphics card and its working with minecraft?
#2835 [18:11] <mbentley> horrible solution, just sayin
#2836 [18:11] <feenyx> hiring people would be a bandaid, not a solution
#2837 [18:11] <SkiingPenguins> and use kb's on people like pbc2
#2838 [18:11] <feenyx> what they need is a payment system that works
#2839 [18:11] <mbentley> hire too many and he would have to fire some shortly down the road
#2840 [18:11] <feenyx> and an account management system that works
#2841 [18:11] <pbc2> they need to let me login
#2842 [18:12] <feenyx> they will, and you'll have an email saying when you can.
#2843 [18:12] <feenyx> now please be quiet
#2844 [18:12] <pbc2> eh
#2845 [18:14] <xales> that reminds me
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#2847 [18:14] <xales> i was going to bother kelly about something
#2848 [18:15] <GuluGulu> the only way to change your skin is via web ?
#2849 [18:15] <feenyx> xales: implementing a !kb command for vops? :D
#2850 [18:16] <mbentley> yeah and last i checked, they disabled it
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#2852 [18:16] <xales> yes feenyx :)
#2853 [18:16] <feenyx> GuluGulu: temporarily unavailable due to server migration
#2854 [18:16] <GuluGulu> indeed due to server migration
#2855 [18:16] <GuluGulu> just checked
#2856 [18:16] <GuluGulu> i just got the game btw :DD:D:D
#2857 [18:16] <GuluGulu> palying on my own server :P
#2858 [18:17] <feenyx> congratulations and welcome to the community :)
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#2860 [18:17] <GuluGulu> ty fee :)
#2861 [18:18] <GuluGulu> omg is getting night !
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#2863 [18:21] * Kealper pokes AuBot
#2863 [18:21] <Kealper> i should fix that
#2864 [18:22] <xales> !kick Kealper
#2865 [18:22] <xales> :(
#2866 [18:22] <Kealper> adding it atm lol
#2867 [18:22] <Kealper> being slow
#2868 [18:22] <xales> oic
#2869 [18:22] <xales> inb4 aubot kicks kealper
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#2871 [18:23] <xales> obtw
#2872 [18:23] <xales> .uptime
#2873 [18:23] <VoteSlave> 18:23:40 up 159 days, 23:13, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00
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#2875 [18:23] <xales> .chanoff
#2876 [18:23] <VoteSlave> Channel commands disabled
#2877 [18:23] <Kealper> should i type /sysinfo? lol
#2878 [18:24] <xales> nooooo
#2879 [18:24] <Kealper> don't make me do it!
#2880 [18:24] <SkiingPenguins> oh is that the one that spams stuff?
#2881 [18:24] <buckb> chmod still not working
#2882 [18:24] <Kealper> mine only sends in one line
#2883 [18:24] <xales> try /script unload sysinfo.pl
#2884 [18:24] <xales> :)
#2885 [18:24] <Kealper> lol
#2886 [18:24] <xales> buckb: what are you trying to do?
#2887 [18:24] <Kealper> mine isn't called sysinfo.pl :P
#2888 [18:24] <xales> Kealper: :(
#2889 [18:25] <buckb> chmod start.command file to start mc server on mac osx 10.6
#2890 [18:25] <SkiingPenguins> use the gui..?
#2891 [18:25] <xales> ^
#2892 [18:25] <buckb> i have no idea
#2893 [18:25] <SkiingPenguins> cant you be admin and pull up the file properties or whatever they are called on macs
#2894 [18:26] <xales> click the file and press command-i
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#2896 [18:26] <buckb> ya, that didnt work
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#2898 [18:26] <xales> it should have opened a properties window
#2899 [18:27] <Xaviergmail> hey
#2900 [18:27] <SkiingPenguins> i would say right click but you cant do that..
#2901 [18:27] <Xaviergmail> is there any way to install opengl without knowing your graphics card?
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#2903 [18:27] <SkiingPenguins> i didnt know you could install opengl
#2904 [18:27] <xales> SkiingPenguins: can. 2 finger on trackpad and click and the desktop mice have rightclick
#2905 [18:28] <buckb> ik ik but then....
#2906 [18:28] <xales> Xaviergmail: you dont install opengl
#2907 [18:28] <SkiingPenguins> oh thats cool, xales, my school doesnt let me right click i guess
#2908 [18:28] <Xaviergmail> how do i get opengl
#2909 [18:28] <SkiingPenguins> it's in the program usually
#2910 [18:28] <xales> buckb: at the very bottom in the permissions section, change it so you can execute
#2911 [18:28] <SkiingPenguins> compiled into the executable, Xaviergmail
#2912 [18:28] <buckb> i tried that and it dint work
#2913 [18:29] <Xaviergmail> it said an accelerated opengl mode couldn't be found
#2914 [18:29] <xales> buckb: what happens when you try to run it...
#2915 [18:29] <Xaviergmail> then asks me to update my graphics card driver
#2916 [18:29] <xales> Xaviergmail: you need to have the graphics card driver up to date then...
#2917 [18:29] <Xaviergmail> idk what my graphis card is.. its on my dads crappy comp
#2918 [18:29] <xales> ...then find out?
#2919 [18:30] <Xaviergmail> device manager wont give me a name and theres no sticker on it
#2920 [18:30] <xales> then something tells me minecraft wont run on that
#2921 [18:30] <Xaviergmail> it did before
#2922 [18:30] <Xaviergmail> i formated his comp :D
#2923 [18:30] <Naxeter> Hello, i just paied for play but i cant play because i have to pay, whats is the problen? thnks
#2924 [18:30] <buckb> it says.... you do not have appropriate access privs.
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#2926 [18:30] <xales> ...so find out what the card is and install the driver
#2927 [18:30] <feenyx> go to device manager, right click the device, go to properties -> advanced, then select Hardware ID from the dropdown list
#2928 [18:30] <Xaviergmail> how do i found out? -.-
#2929 [18:31] <xales> buckb: what EXACTLY does it say
#2930 [18:31] <feenyx> ^
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#2932 [18:31] <buckb> ok one sec
#2933 [18:31] <feenyx> Xaviergmail: then check that hardware id against www.pcidatabase.com
#2934 [18:31] <Xaviergmail> feenyx device manager wont do shit D:<
#2935 [18:31] * fogwraith wipes ze sweat away
#2935 [18:31] <xales> Naxeter: have to wait a bit before it works
#2936 [18:31] <buckb> It says: The file “start.command” could not be executed because you do not have appropriate access privileges.
#2937 [18:31] <Xaviergmail> o
#2938 [18:31] <Xaviergmail> mk
#2939 [18:31] <Xaviergmail> will try that thx
#2940 [18:31] <Naxeter> Thanks
#2941 [18:32] <xales> buckb: is this on a personal computer?
#2942 [18:32] <buckb> yes
#2943 [18:32] <buckb> I am logged in as an admin
#2944 [18:34] <xales> buckb: go to terminal and run
#2945 [18:34] <xales> ls -la start.command
#2946 [18:34] <buckb> ok
#2947 [18:35] <buckb> did that
#2948 [18:35] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2949 [18:35] <xales> and paste the output in here (if it is one line, it should be)
#2950 [18:35] <xales> !kick kealper lol
#2951 [18:35] * AuBot kicked Kealper from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: lol)
#2952 [18:35] <buckb> -rw-rw-rw-@ 1 buck staff 76 Jan 23 17:10 /Users/buck/Desktop/Servers/minecraft_server/start.command
#2953 [18:35] <feenyx> !kick xales for science!
#2954 [18:35] * AuBot kicked xales from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: for)
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#2956 [18:36] <Kealper> fair enough
#2957 [18:36] <feenyx> wouldya lookit that
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#2959 [18:36] <buckb> -rw-rw-rw-@ 1 buck staff 76 Jan 23 17:10 /Users/buck/Desktop/Servers/minecraft_server/start.command
#2960 [18:36] <Kealper> wait, what? lol
#2961 [18:36] <feenyx> xales: sorry xales, it was meant to say (for science)
#2962 [18:36] <Kealper> LOL
#2963 [18:36] <xales> indeed, i saw
#2964 [18:36] <Kealper> !kick feenyx FOR SCIENCE!
#2965 [18:36] * AuBot kicked feenyx from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: FOR)
#2966 [18:36] <Kealper> for fail
#2967 [18:36] * feenyx [feenyx@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2968 [18:37] <feenyx> [00:35:44] �!� feenyx was kicked from #MineCraftHelp by AuBot [FOR]
#2969 [18:37] <Kealper> yeah, it was supposed to be FOR SCIENCE
#2970 [18:37] <feenyx> yeah, I saw you issuing the command :p
#2971 [18:37] <buckb> xales: -rw-rw-rw-@ 1 buck staff 76 Jan 23 17:10 /Users/buck/Desktop/Servers/minecraft_server/start.command
#2972 [18:37] <feenyx> apparently it's not grabbing the whole string
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#2974 [18:37] <co_nyante> my friend's music group http://www.reseauurbain.com/FUJTIF
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#2976 [18:37] <Kealper> yeah, my parsing is stupid
#2977 [18:37] <Kealper> oh lawd
#2978 [18:38] <feenyx> did you happen to make a !ban *!*@ip.ip.ip.ip command also? :D
#2979 [18:38] <xales> buckb: then you didn't set permissions properly
#2980 [18:38] <Kealper> no, just kick lol
#2981 [18:38] <buckb> no joke
#2982 [18:38] <buckb> what did i do wrong
#2983 [18:38] <Kealper> i wonder.....
#2984 [18:38] <NinjaKirby> God damnit, is that a notify or something causing the mIRC sound?
#2985 [18:38] <xales> buckb: just run
#2986 [18:38] <Kealper> !kick AuBot
#2987 [18:38] * AuBot kicked AuBot from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: I love you too! <3 (Issued by: Kealper))
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#2989 [18:40] <xales> buckb: does chmod output anything when you run it?
#2990 [18:40] <buckb> no
#2991 [18:40] <xales> try this
#2992 [18:40] <xales> chmod -v o+x start.command
#2993 [18:41] <xales> it should output one line - paste that
#2994 [18:41] <buckb> -bash: /Users/buck/Desktop/Servers/minecraft_server/start.command: Permission denied
#2995 [18:42] <xales> that is what it outputs?
#2996 [18:42] <buckb> yep
#2997 [18:42] <xales> are you sure you are in the right folder?
#2998 [18:42] <buckb> i am doing this in terminal
#2999 [18:43] <xales> indeed. are you in the right folder?
#3000 [18:43] <buckb> yep
#3001 [18:43] <xales> when you ran ls, the path was different
#3002 [18:44] <xales> so..double check
#3003 [18:44] <xales> ive gotta go now, someone else help buckb...
#3004 [18:45] <feenyx> I would if I way my way around osx well enough
#3005 [18:45] <feenyx> if I knew my way*
#3006 [18:45] <buckb> nvmnd
#3007 [18:47] <GuluGulu> i wonder if there is a site or any service that can find co player for your personal server, or even a channel in irc ?
#3008 [18:48] <NinjaKirby> Matchmaking for Minecraft?
#3009 [18:49] <SkiingPenguins> haha
#3010 [18:49] <NinjaKirby> "I like to spend my time making glass houses and decorating them with Pictures", that's MY kinda crafter, fuk yeah
#3011 [18:49] <NinjaKirby> Just an example, obviously
#3012 [18:50] <Kealper> O.o
#3013 [18:50] <NinjaKirby> Wow, real life marriages because of Minecraft. Like Second Life, or WoW
#3014 [18:51] <NinjaKirby> ... why do I actually expect such a site to appear now I've thought about it...
#3015 [18:51] <NinjaKirby> GuluGulu, get to work, you could make some ad-revenue with such a popular site.
#3016 [18:52] <SkiingPenguins> Second Life is on my school's computers
#3017 [18:52] <NinjaKirby> ... as an educational tool?
#3018 [18:53] <SkiingPenguins> i have no idea, we dont use it
#3019 [18:53] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#3020 [18:53] * Kealper pokes AuBot
#3020 [18:54] <Kealper> ok...who wants to be target practice to see if this untested string parsing works
#3021 [18:54] <NinjaKirby> Fire it at me :3
#3022 [18:55] <Kealper> !kick NinjaKirby asdf
#3023 [18:55] * AuBot kicked NinjaKirby from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: You are the weakest link, goodbye! (Issued by Kealper with reason: asdf))
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#3025 [18:55] <Kealper> works lol
#3026 [18:55] <NinjaKirby> XD Made a shortcut to kick or something?
#3027 [18:55] <NinjaKirby> Actually never mind, there is already a shorthand command. Ignore me
#3028 [18:55] <Kealper> it allows people who are whitelisted on aubot (but not chanops) to kick
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#3030 [18:56] <Kealper> basically a ghetto halfop
#3031 [18:56] <NinjaKirby> :3
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#3033 [18:57] <Kealper> feel like getting kicked once more so i can see what happens if i don't provide a reason? lol
#3034 [18:57] <NinjaKirby> >_> Okie
#3035 [18:57] <Kealper> !kick NinjaKirby
#3036 [18:57] <Kealper> hmm
#3037 [18:57] * NinjaKirby warps out of shape!
#3037 [18:57] * Kealper edits that
#3037 [18:57] <NinjaKirby> ugh! Something happened
#3038 [18:59] <NinjaKirby> Interesting, I can't see some conversation before the first kick, is that an intended feature of mIRC?
#3039 [18:59] <Kealper> hmm?
#3040 [19:00] <Kealper> oh
#3041 [19:00] <Kealper> probably
#3042 [19:00] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm
#3043 [19:02] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#3044 [19:02] <Kealper> ok, one more for the team? lol
#3045 [19:03] <Kealper> meh
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#3047 [19:03] <Kealper> !kick Kealper
#3048 [19:03] * AuBot kicked Kealper from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by Kealper with reason: None given.))
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#3050 [19:04] <Kealper> oh....dang...chanserv ninja'd that +o on me that time
#3051 [19:08] <xales> Where do those random reasons come from? :P
#3052 [19:08] <Kealper> it's got a few reasons hardcoded and it just randomly chooses one
#3053 [19:09] <Kealper> You are the weakest link, goodbye!;Uh oh! Looks like someone should have read the rules!;I love you too! <3;I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you stay here.;Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya!
#3054 [19:09] <Kealper> split by the ; char
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#3056 [19:10] <ElectroPulsar> o/ Does anybody have experience running Minecraft on DSLinux?
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#3058 [19:10] * Kealper looks at xales
#3058 [19:10] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#3059 [19:11] * NinjaKirby looks at Kealper
#3059 [19:11] <Kealper> !kick AuBot
#3060 [19:11] <Kealper> ok
#3061 [19:11] <xales> ElectroPulsar: Is there any particular issue?
#3062 [19:11] <ElectroPulsar> Well, I am trying to run Minecraft on DSL, but can't seem to get flash to install
#3063 [19:11] <SkiingPenguins> i thought minecraft used java
#3064 [19:11] <ElectroPulsar> Not a Minecraft problem, just can't seem to find the answer
#3065 [19:11] <Kealper> flash?
#3066 [19:11] <ElectroPulsar> Oh!
#3067 [19:12] <SkiingPenguins> ^_^
#3068 [19:12] <ElectroPulsar> Crap, stupid mistake...
#3069 [19:12] <Kealper> xD
#3070 [19:12] <xales> so here we go, trying to /upgrade
#3071 [19:12] <Kealper> doo et!
#3072 [19:12] <Kealper> :(
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#3074 [19:13] <Kealper> :/
#3075 [19:13] <SkiingPenguins> you upgraded your OS that fast?
#3076 [19:13] <xales> fail
#3077 [19:13] <xales> dammit and the dumb nickcolor got loaded
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#3080 [19:18] <xales> what on earth did I do
#3081 [19:18] <xales> D:
#3082 [19:19] <Kealper> O.o
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#3084 [19:20] <xales> I try to fix my hilight window and it creates a whole new connection...
#3085 [19:20] <xales> I try to move channels around in the list and they jump to random places...
#3086 [19:20] <Kealper> lol
#3087 [19:21] <GuluGulu> finaly after 3 nights i have light in my dirt house !
#3088 [19:25] <xales> Finally fixed irssi
#3089 [19:25] <xales> stupid POS
#3090 [19:25] <Kealper> lol
#3091 [19:25] * SkiingPenguins uses nettalk :|
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#3092 [19:26] <Fantleas> Hey
#3093 [19:26] <Kealper> ello
#3094 [19:26] <Fantleas> xales, are you there?
#3095 [19:26] <xales> yeah
#3096 [19:27] <Fantleas> Umm... As you know I got my Beta server running. :) Now I want to host a Creative server too.
#3097 [19:27] <Fantleas> But when I run it with java -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer I just get errors.
#3098 [19:27] <Fantleas> :s
#3099 [19:27] <xales> What errors?
#3100 [19:27] <Fantleas> Let me copy them.
#3101 [19:27] <NinjaKirby> Pastebin for large amounts of text
#3102 [19:28] <Fantleas> Okay. ^
#3103 [19:28] <NinjaKirby> :3
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#3105 [19:28] <NinjaKirby> Ingenious site
#3106 [19:28] <xales> ._.
#3107 [19:28] <xales> 19:24:35 -!- Obviously_not_Notch [saynotocra@adsl-065-013-060-219.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #minecraft
#3108 [19:29] <xales> :(
#3109 [19:29] <SkiingPenguins> o.o
#3110 [19:29] <NinjaKirby> taw
#3111 [19:29] <xales> Kealpy, ping me
#3112 [19:29] <xales> I need to make sure hilight window functions
#3113 [19:29] <Kealper> xales:
#3114 [19:29] <xales> :)
#3115 [19:30] <xales> I'm glad I took a screenshot of my channel list before I screwed it up
#3116 [19:30] <Kealper> i need to fix a certain command in aubot...the site that it hits did an api update -.-
#3117 [19:30] <Kealper> lol
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#3119 [19:31] <xales> what site?
#3120 [19:31] <xales> also, http://pastebin.com/6VrAsqCm is why it crashed
#3121 [19:31] <xales> aparrantly /upgrade doesn't like SSL
#3122 [19:31] <NinjaKirby> lol? Nice random Ascii
#3123 [19:32] <xales> not random
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#3125 [19:32] <xales> its encrypted, but the client doesn't realize it is an SSL connection
#3126 [19:32] <NinjaKirby> Ah, wakata
#3127 [19:41] <Fantleas> Wait, I am confused... What is the right cmd to execute the Creative Server, this: "java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer" OR "java -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer"
#3128 [19:41] <xales> they do the same thing, one just allocates more RAM to it
#3129 [19:42] <Fantleas> Though, only when I run the first one it worked.
#3130 [19:42] <Fantleas> ran*
#3131 [19:42] <Fantleas> I will check if it generated the files
#3132 [19:43] <Fantleas> Yay :D
#3133 [19:43] <Fantleas> Server files created.
#3134 [19:43] <Fantleas> I had to run it through the root username. Now that the files are created I can use a normal user to run it right?
#3135 [19:44] <xales> You shouldn't need to run it as root...
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#3137 [19:44] <xales> just FYI, never run a server as root...ever
#3138 [19:44] <xales> or actually, never run anything as root if you don't absolutely need to
#3139 [19:44] <xales> make sure the server is in a folder that your user can write to
#3140 [19:44] <Fantleas> Oic
#3141 [19:45] <xae> where possible, make a new user to run it as with limited priviledges
#3142 [19:45] <Fantleas> Is it bad if I run it through the same user as my website (zeatnolt.com) uses?
#3143 [19:45] <Fantleas> oh
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#3146 [19:47] <xales> Yes, it is
#3147 [19:47] <xales> you want the least amount of access for everything
#3148 [19:47] <xales> that is one of the Unix philosophies
#3149 [19:48] <xales> if the Minecraft server doesn't need access to the website, it shouldn't have it.
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#3152 [19:53] <Fantleas> Wow, I just tried executing the .jar with the cmd that worked with a normal user and it says this:
#3153 [19:53] <Fantleas> Error occurred during initialization of VM
#3154 [19:53] <Fantleas> Could not reserve enough space for object heap
#3155 [19:53] <Fantleas> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
#3156 [19:53] <xales> Do you have enough available RAM?
#3157 [19:53] <Fantleas> Yes.
#3158 [19:53] <xales> How much?
#3159 [19:54] <Fantleas> 2 GB
#3160 [19:54] <Fantleas> I used this cmd java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer
#3161 [19:54] <Fantleas> The same I used with root username
#3162 [19:54] <xales> 2GB free or 2GB available
#3163 [19:54] <Fantleas> How do I check?
#3164 [19:54] <xales> free -m
#3165 [19:55] <xales> paste the line that starts with +/- buffers/cache
#3166 [19:55] <Fantleas> It says free 511 :s
#3167 [19:55] <Fantleas> Wow
#3168 [19:55] <Fantleas> How can I see the proccesses that are using it?
#3169 [19:55] <xales> top
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#3171 [19:56] <Fantleas> Oh I see.
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#3173 [19:56] <Fantleas> Wait I gtg for like 10 mins. >.>
#3174 [19:56] <Fantleas> brb
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#3176 [19:59] <xales> !kick AuBot :O
#3177 [19:59] <xales> :(
#3178 [20:00] <ElectroPulsar> Anybody here familiar with DSLinux? I am rather unfamiliar with Linux in general, so I need some help with installing Java...
#3179 [20:00] <xales> Probably not the best idea to use DSL if you aren't familiar with Linux
#3180 [20:00] <ElectroPulsar> ...now somebody tells me, lol
#3181 [20:01] <xales> Try Ubuntu
#3182 [20:01] <xales> that is probably the easiest for those who aren't familiar with Linux =\
#3183 [20:01] <ElectroPulsar> Do you have any suggestions for a linux distro that is light on the system resourcfe reqs?
#3184 [20:02] <ElectroPulsar> brb, lemme check reqs for Ubuntu
#3185 [20:02] <xales> They all are, if it can't run Linux it won't be able to run Minecraft
#3186 [20:02] <xales> Linux runs on potatoes. Literally. People run Linux on Gameboys.
#3187 [20:02] <ElectroPulsar> Nice
#3188 [20:03] <ElectroPulsar> I finally got DSL installed and set up with internet... how difficult is it to just install Java and run Minecraft? Really that's all the purpose of installing this OS.
#3189 [20:05] <ElectroPulsar> Oh, wait, I might have it...
#3190 [20:06] <xales> If you are just using Linux to run Minecraft...
#3191 [20:06] <xales> why?
#3192 [20:07] <xales> If your computer can't handle it under Windows, I doubt it will do significantly better under Linux
#3193 [20:07] <SkiingPenguins> DSL is basically the best you can do, in terms of using the least resources
#3194 [20:10] <ElectroPulsar> Yea, that's why I am wanting to try it under DSL... if it doesn't work under the lightest, might as well give up for my laptop.
#3195 [20:12] <xales> ElectroPulsar: If the problem is related to CPU or graphics card, a different OS won't help
#3196 [20:12] <xales> If it is related to RAM, it may make a small difference
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#3198 [20:14] <Anthro> i need some server help
#3199 [20:15] <SkiingPenguins> how so?
#3200 [20:15] <Anthro> well i run the downloaded server and yes im running windows
#3201 [20:15] <Anthro> then i put my ip adress in and clcik connect
#3202 [20:15] <Anthro> but it always tims out
#3203 [20:15] <xales> did you port forward?
#3204 [20:16] <Anthro> whats that?
#3205 [20:16] <SkiingPenguins> are you using wan ip or lan ip?
#3206 [20:16] <Anthro> how would i tell that?
#3207 [20:16] <SkiingPenguins> what ip are you using?
#3208 [20:16] <SkiingPenguins> say it here
#3209 [20:17] <xales> I've gotta go =/ can you help him port forward, SkiingPenguins?
#3210 [20:17] <Anthro> 192.168.2.113
#3211 [20:17] <SkiingPenguins> yes i can
#3212 [20:17] <SkiingPenguins> anthro so you're using a router right?
#3213 [20:17] <Anthro> much apperciated
#3214 [20:17] <Anthro> well a wirless stick one yea
#3215 [20:17] <Fantleas> Xales D:
#3216 [20:18] <Fantleas> Damn :/
#3217 [20:18] <SkiingPenguins> Anthro is this wireless stick plugged into your computer?
#3218 [20:18] <Anthro> yea right into a front usb port
#3219 [20:18] <SkiingPenguins> and what does it link to? a wireless network?
#3220 [20:18] <Anthro> yes it should be
#3221 [20:18] <SkiingPenguins> so it isnt for verizon or anything like that right
#3222 [20:19] <Anthro> no its soemthing to pick up wirless signals
#3223 [20:19] <SkiingPenguins> alright, good.
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#3225 [20:19] <SkiingPenguins> can you access the wireless signal sending thingy?
#3226 [20:20] <Anthro> yea
#3227 [20:20] <SkiingPenguins> you can access the webpage also?
#3228 [20:20] <Anthro> webpage?
#3229 [20:20] <wutz> what causes a minecraft SMP server to revert when you reset it? is there a correct way to reset the minecraft server?
#3230 [20:20] <SkiingPenguins> the box that sends out the wireless signal has a wepage you can use to set it up
#3231 [20:20] <SkiingPenguins> anthro what type of wireless box do you use?
#3232 [20:21] <SkiingPenguins> wutz: i have no idea what you're talking about
#3233 [20:21] <Anthro> its a wireless usb adaptor
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#3235 [20:21] <Anthro> its not name brand i got it on ebay from hong kong lol
#3236 [20:21] <wutz> i just Ctrl+C ed out of my minecraft server, and when i started it back up, it had reverted to a state that it was in several hours earlier
#3237 [20:22] <wutz> or at least the inventories and positions of all the players, not sure about the terrain
#3238 [20:22] <SkiingPenguins> wutz: that means it didnt save the map
#3239 [20:22] <SkiingPenguins> you should use "stop" command
#3240 [20:22] <wutz> ah ok
#3241 [20:22] <wutz> where can i find out about this stuff?
#3242 [20:22] <SkiingPenguins> the wiki
#3243 [20:23] <SkiingPenguins> Anthro: i'm sorry i dont know how to help you if you cant get to the router webpage
#3244 [20:23] <Anthro> well i have gotten into my server twice before
#3245 [20:24] <wutz> okay second question, is there anywhere i can go to find out what would be causing server lag, or any known ways to reduce it
#3246 [20:24] <Anthro> hell even had someone join
#3247 [20:24] <SkiingPenguins> wutz: close programs that may be using your bandwidth
#3248 [20:25] <Anthro> hey grey you able to help?
#3249 [20:25] <wutz> i'm actually running the server on a cloud computer so i feel like it should have plenty of bandwidth
#3250 [20:26] <Anthro> ok maybe you can help me on this
#3251 [20:26] <Anthro> how do i log into my server?
#3252 [20:29] <Anthro> >.>?
#3253 [20:29] <Anthro> <.<?
#3254 [20:30] <Anthro> helllooo?
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#3257 [20:33] <Anthro> it got really silent
#3258 [20:34] <TehZomB> its cause i joined. everyone'si n awe.
#3259 [20:34] <Anthro> lol
#3260 [20:34] <TehZomB> :P
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#3264 [20:43] <Fantleas> How do I close a screen in Linux console? D:
#3265 [20:44] <xmt> type exit
#3266 [20:44] <grand> stop
#3267 [20:44] <grand> stop then exit*
#3268 [20:45] <Fantleas> That's not working on the Classic MC server D:
#3269 [20:45] <grand> sorry for typo first time :P
#3270 [20:45] <Fantleas> Look:
#3271 [20:45] <Fantleas> stop
#3272 [20:45] <Fantleas> 05:39:42 [console] admins: stop
#3273 [20:45] <Fantleas> exit
#3274 [20:45] <Fantleas> 05:39:44 [console] admins: exit
#3275 [20:46] <grand> oh i know nothing about classic
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#3281 [20:53] <Fantleas> I can't close the minecraft-server.jar (classic) screen on linux wtf o.o
#3282 [20:54] <TehZomB> type stop.
#3283 [20:54] <TehZomB> oh wait classic
#3284 [20:54] <TehZomB> xD nvm
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#3286 [20:56] <ArmEagle> Fantleas you can't kill it either?
#3287 [20:56] <Fantleas> With CTRL+A and k
#3288 [20:56] <Fantleas> no D:
#3289 [20:57] <SkiingPenguins> sudo shutdown -R now
#3290 [20:57] <ArmEagle> no i mean in a second window, get the proc ID and kill -9 it
#3291 [20:57] <Fantleas> do I type that?
#3292 [20:57] <SkiingPenguins> no
#3293 [20:57] <Fantleas> Eagle, how do I do that?
#3294 [20:57] <Fantleas> I am on the main prompt right now
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#3296 [20:58] <ArmEagle> well, to open a new window Ctrl+a c then 'ps aux' to find the process ID
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#3298 [20:58] <Hareuhal> Hey guys, is the Minecraft server down?
#3299 [20:59] <ArmEagle> and 'kill -9 [pid]'
#3300 [20:59] <Fantleas> ok
#3301 [20:59] <ArmEagle> Hareuhal works for me
#3302 [20:59] <cobraphantom> i just ordered a "gift" purchase for a friend, how long til the email with the code comes
#3303 [20:59] <Hareuhal> Thats what I thhought. I bought it last night and haven't been able to log in.
#3304 [20:59] <SkiingPenguins> cobraphantom: it can be a few days, the servers are being upgraded
#3305 [20:59] <SkiingPenguins> it's been getting better though
#3306 [21:00] <Fantleas> Ctrl+a c is not working :S I have Putty.
#3307 [21:00] <cobraphantom> hmm, well i bought the game for myself today and it worked right away
#3308 [21:00] <ArmEagle> does ctrl+a ? give a help window? I'm wondering whether you're actually running it in screen :)
#3309 [21:00] <Hareuhal> I can't at all. I have the latest version and I know the username and pass is correct.
#3310 [21:00] <ArmEagle> oh maybe control doesn't get through correctly.. just ssh to the box another time then
#3311 [21:01] <Fantleas> Oh I had to run it through a screen
#3312 [21:01] <Fantleas> :P
#3313 [21:01] <Fantleas> I am finding the proc id
#3314 [21:02] <Hareuhal> Anyone know if it takes until the payment has gone through? I paid with a credit card but it's still pending until tomorrow
#3315 [21:02] <cobraphantom> my payment was pretty instant, but the gift for friend is f'ed
#3316 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes, the payment needs to clear before the purchase goes through
#3317 [21:03] <Hareuhal> I would have thought it would have worked immediately with a credit card - thanks though.
#3318 [21:05] <Fantleas> Ok done.
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#3320 [21:05] <Fantleas> Is that the only proccess I have to kill?
#3321 [21:05] <ArmEagle> i think so :)
#3322 [21:05] <ArmEagle> I haven't stopped a linux MC server that often myself..
#3323 [21:05] <Fantleas> Oh I see.
#3324 [21:06] <xales> Just kill the java process
#3325 [21:06] <Fantleas> Btw why "kill -9" and not just "kill"
#3326 [21:06] <Fantleas> xales :D
#3327 [21:06] <Fantleas> You are back.
#3328 [21:06] <xales> Only for a minute =/
#3329 [21:06] <ArmEagle> -9 is a 'harder' kill
#3330 [21:06] <Fantleas> Oh D:
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#3332 [21:06] <xales> Shadow386: ello
#3333 [21:06] <Shadow386> yo
#3334 [21:07] <Fantleas> "Suddenly the Dungeon collapses!! - You die..."
#3335 [21:07] <Fantleas> lolwut
#3336 [21:09] <xales> Shadow386: I still don't have permissions working on freebuild
#3337 [21:09] <Shadow386> is it xales or Xales?
#3338 [21:09] <Fantleas> total used free shared buffers cached
#3339 [21:09] <Fantleas> Mem: 2048 285 1762 0 0 0
#3340 [21:09] <Fantleas> -/+ buffers/cache: 285 1762
#3341 [21:09] <Fantleas> Swap: 0 0 0
#3342 [21:10] <Fantleas> (hmm) Looks like I killed the server proccess successfully :s
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#3344 [21:10] <xales> lowercase
#3345 [21:10] <SkiingPenguins> you might want some swap..?
#3346 [21:10] <xales> SkiingPenguins: Its an OpenVZ
#3347 [21:11] <SkiingPenguins> oh
#3348 [21:11] <quaddy> Every time i play minecraft (the full version) a few minutes in it crashes to a black screen
#3349 [21:11] <quaddy> it works normally up to that point
#3350 [21:11] <TehZomB> try updating java
#3351 [21:11] <quaddy> alright
#3352 [21:12] <Fantleas> xales, I get a "not enough permissions" error when I try to run the classic server via normal uer
#3353 [21:12] <Fantleas> user*
#3354 [21:12] <xales> What port are you trying to bind to
#3355 [21:12] <Fantleas> The .jar file is under the same Username folder my Beta server is :S
#3356 [21:12] <Shadow386> xales lemme check
#3357 [21:12] <Fantleas> So idk what's wrong.
#3358 [21:12] <Fantleas> xales, I don't know, I just ran the .jar
#3359 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> What OS?
#3360 [21:13] <Fantleas> Linux
#3361 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> And you're launching it with...
#3362 [21:13] <Fantleas> screen -r minecraft2 java -Xms768M -Xmx768M -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer
#3363 [21:13] <Fantleas> sorry
#3364 [21:13] <Fantleas> screen -S
#3365 [21:14] <ArmEagle> does it work without the screen stuff?
#3366 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> What's the exact error it goes you back?
#3367 [21:14] <Fantleas> Nope. It only has worked when executed via root.
#3368 [21:14] <Fantleas> But the Beta server works with normal user :S
#3369 [21:14] <Fantleas> And its on the same username folder
#3370 [21:15] <Fantleas> I will pastie.org the error, brb
#3371 [21:18] <Fantleas> By the way, I have to initially run the server (put the cmd) under its own folder, right?
#3372 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> That would be preferable, yes
#3373 [21:19] <Fantleas> Look
#3374 [21:19] <Fantleas> This is what I get D:
#3375 [21:19] <Fantleas> http://pastie.org/private/fmq0ugigquqrylgc7sxdya
#3376 [21:20] <xales> Easy fix
#3377 [21:20] <xales> become root again
#3378 [21:20] <Shadow386> xales check now
#3379 [21:20] <TehZomB> chmod?
#3380 [21:20] <xales> run 'chown (user you run server as) -Rv .'
#3381 [21:20] <xales> Shadow386: ok
#3382 [21:20] <ArmEagle> seems like you're trying to run the server in a folder that you do not have write permissions to, somehow
#3383 [21:20] <Fantleas> :o
#3384 [21:21] <xales> Shadow386: Nope. Unless permission would be denied for me to kick myself
#3385 [21:21] <Fantleas> OH!
#3386 [21:21] <Shadow386> hm
#3387 [21:21] <Shadow386> try again?
#3388 [21:21] <Fantleas> I think I know whhy
#3389 [21:21] <xales> Shadow386: Try again what?
#3390 [21:21] <Fantleas> I created the minecraft2 folder using the ROOT ftp account!
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#3392 [21:21] <Fantleas> Is that why?
#3393 [21:21] <Shadow386> try again to do stuff now
#3394 [21:21] <xales> Fantleas: Yes. Just CHOWN it to your user
#3395 [21:22] <xales> Shadow386: Nope
#3396 [21:22] <Fantleas> Okay, chown user -Rv
#3397 [21:22] <Fantleas> ?
#3398 [21:22] <xales> yes
#3399 [21:22] <xales> no
#3400 [21:22] <xales> chown -Rv user .
#3401 [21:22] <xales> notice the . at the end
#3402 [21:22] <Fantleas> Okay
#3403 [21:22] <xales> and the order of the arguments
#3404 [21:22] <Shadow386> this is annoying me. its not saving the files
#3405 [21:22] <xales> Shadow386: :'(
#3406 [21:22] <Fantleas> Yep, sorry :D I actually did notice it :P
#3407 [21:22] <xales> still doesn't work
#3408 [21:23] <Fantleas> xales, is that also the reason that I am not able to close the screen?
#3409 [21:23] <xales> Fantleas: It shouldn't be
#3410 [21:23] <xales> Shadow386: Now it works.
#3411 [21:23] <Shadow386> ok its an issue with lines now
#3412 [21:23] <Fantleas> How am I supposed to stop the classic server anyways?
#3413 [21:23] <Fantleas> "stop"?
#3414 [21:24] <xales> I'd assume so
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#3416 [21:26] <Shadow386> okay now its fine to work
#3417 [21:26] <Shadow386> Fantleas i would suggest save-all then stop
#3418 [21:26] <Shadow386> just to be failsafe
#3419 [21:28] <xales> Shadow386: Does the wrapper provide any way for me to remove bedrock?
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#3421 [21:29] <xales> Shadow386: Does the wrapper provide any way for me to remove bedrock?
#3422 [21:29] <Shadow386_> nope
#3423 [21:29] <Shadow386_> why
#3424 [21:29] <xales> Just wondering, I saw stuff made of bedrock
#3425 [21:29] <Shadow386_> one sec
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#3427 [21:30] <Fantleas> damn
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#3429 [21:30] <Fantleas> xales, I did: "chown user -Rv ." and I still get some errors
#3430 [21:30] <Fantleas> :S
#3431 [21:30] <xales> What errors?
#3432 [21:31] <Fantleas> http://pastie.org/private/74spjoaxdjmpeyw1ov8w
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#3434 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Could you ls -a that directory and pastebin it?
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#3436 [21:31] <Fantleas> Should I just create the minecraft2 folder as the user I will execute the server? :P
#3437 [21:31] <Fantleas> And ok
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#3441 [21:34] <DinoThrasher> I'm trying to run a local server for my brother and I, but when I attempt to connect the command prompt tells me "You need to log in!" and the Minecraft application crashes with a NullPointer Exception error. Any ideas?
#3442 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Are you trying to create a classic or beta server?
#3443 [21:35] <Fantleas> List of files is not so long, so I will just put it here.
#3444 [21:35] <Fantleas> . admins.txt banned.txt minecraft-server.jar server_level.dat server.properties
#3445 [21:35] <Fantleas> .. banned-ip.txt externalurl.txt players.txt server.log
#3446 [21:35] <Fantleas> It has the properties file
#3447 [21:35] <DinoThrasher> Beta
#3448 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> DinoThrasher - And what file do you execute to start the server?
#3449 [21:35] <DinoThrasher> the "start server" bath file
#3450 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> xales - What's the stinking ls command to show full permissions?
#3451 [21:36] <xales> -la?
#3452 [21:36] <DinoThrasher> batch*
#3453 [21:36] <xales> -l is the one for detailed output
#3454 [21:36] <xales> -a is all
#3455 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> DinoThrasher - You're running the wrong server then. You got it from
#3456 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> http://minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#3457 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> when you should've gone to: http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3458 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> The server for beta is at the bottom of that page
#3459 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Ah, right.
#3460 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Fantleas - ls -l
#3461 [21:37] <DinoThrasher> Oh, ok thanks. I've been having trouble finding ANYTHING on the webpage. I'll give that a try.
#3462 [21:37] <Fantleas> kk
#3463 [21:38] <Fantleas> http://pastie.org/private/jqi9q4439seueku5u3o40a
#3464 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Root still owns everything
#3465 [21:38] <Fantleas> :S
#3466 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234 Jan 24 04:33 server.properties
#3467 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> root has ownership of that file, with read and write permissions
#3468 [21:39] <ArmEagle> hmpf and why doesn't that show . and .. ?
#3469 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> everybody else only has read
#3470 [21:39] <ArmEagle> not that it really matters
#3471 [21:39] <Fantleas> Was the command I was supposed to put on root: "chown user -Rv ." OR "chown -Rv user ."
#3472 [21:39] <ArmEagle> folder is probably root too anyway
#3473 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> The latter's the correct one
#3474 [21:40] <Fantleas> D:
#3475 [21:40] <Fantleas> How do I un-do the other?
#3476 [21:40] <Fantleas> Because that's what I did first.
#3477 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> It.. shouldn't have run correctly with that
#3478 [21:40] <ArmEagle> does that set '.' actually too (the folder you're in)? or only the files in the folder.
#3479 [21:40] <Fantleas> It did, it showed the proccess o.o
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#3481 [21:41] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3481 [21:41] <Fantleas> $t
#3482 [21:42] <Fantleas> I will try just making the folder with the normal user
#3483 [21:42] <ArmEagle> i keep finding stuff like this funny.. if you could just do it yourself it would have been done in a minute. But helping through IRC is so much slower :)
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#3485 [21:43] <Fantleas> lol
#3486 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Just, Fantleas, go up a directory, and do as root, chown -Rv youruser /foldername
#3487 [21:43] <ArmEagle> not /
#3488 [21:43] <Fantleas> Okay, so there is no problem if I executed "chown user -Rv ." in the main root prompt? :o
#3489 [21:43] <mib_7m4t8s> how do you change an omen map to a server
#3490 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Forgive me, my *nix is hella rusty.
#3491 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_7m4t8s - What do you mean?
#3492 [21:44] * GreyVulpine bliniks
#3492 [21:44] <mib_7m4t8s> omen is a mpa editor
#3493 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> You did what?
#3494 [21:44] <ArmEagle> Fantleas the point kinda is.. you should just never have used root in the first place.. not to download the server.jar' or to start it :)
#3495 [21:45] <Fantleas> :$
#3496 [21:45] <mib_7m4t8s> how do i change a map editor map to a map on a server
#3497 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Did it save a level.dat file?
#3498 [21:45] <mib_7m4t8s> how do that
#3499 [21:45] <mib_7m4t8s> but no i think
#3500 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, haven't used omen before.
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#3502 [21:46] <mib_7m4t8s> ok
#3503 [21:46] <ArmEagle> Fantleas so, to get back to what grey suggested..
#3504 [21:46] <Fantleas> Okay
#3505 [21:46] <ArmEagle> go up one folder from that server dir (containing minecraft-server.jar)
#3506 [21:46] <mib_7m4t8s> yea its a level.dat map
#3507 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_7m4t8s - Then you just move that level.dat file over to your server
#3508 [21:46] <ArmEagle> then do chown -Rv youruser foldername
#3509 [21:46] <Fantleas> I will do something to protect my website's username folder better.
#3510 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> rename accordingly
#3511 [21:47] <mib_7m4t8s> how do i find the file because i cant find it
#3512 [21:47] <Fantleas> I will create a brand new user, then give that user access (permissions) only to the 2 minecraft folders in my wesite's username folder.
#3513 [21:47] <Fantleas> That way the user can't be used to modify all my other website data
#3514 [21:47] <Fantleas> :o I think
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#3516 [21:48] <mib_7m4t8s> grevvulpine
#3517 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#3518 [21:48] <mib_7m4t8s> i cant find the file on the level.dat
#3519 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Where did you save level.dat?
#3520 [21:48] <mib_7m4t8s> on my desktop
#3521 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> and where is your server located?
#3522 [21:49] <mib_7m4t8s> wat you mean
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#3524 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Where do you have your start server.bat and minecraft-server.jar files at?
#3525 [21:49] <mib_7m4t8s> on a folder on my desktop
#3526 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> then move the level.dat to that folder
#3527 [21:50] <mib_7m4t8s> ok
#3528 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Is it the same name?
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#3530 [21:51] <ArmEagle> well, that was the game.. good night
#3531 [21:51] <mib_7m4t8s> ty
#3532 [21:52] <mib_7m4t8s> thanks
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#3534 [22:04] <Fantleas> How do I fully delete an user on linux?
#3535 [22:04] <Fantleas> I did adduser X and it created a fodler @ /home
#3536 [22:04] <Fantleas> folder*
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#3538 [22:04] <Fantleas> Then userdel X but it did not delete the folder. :/
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#3540 [22:07] <Kennai> Hey, I got a small problem.
#3541 [22:08] <Kennai> Was wondering if anyone was having problems with the minecraft gift codes.
#3542 [22:08] <Kennai> I had a few problems with the loading of the page, but my bank says it went through via a charge but it hasn't been added to my account or the email provided.
#3543 [22:09] <xales> Kennai: They are just finishing up a server move, it may take a short while for you to recieve the code
#3544 [22:09] <Kennai> Oh, thanks you xales <3
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#3551 [22:32] <Fantleas> o.o
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#3555 [22:42] <lemon-rev> 500 Servlet Exception
#3556 [22:42] <lemon-rev> [show] java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections!
#3557 [22:42] <lemon-rev> anyone ?
#3558 [22:42] <lemon-rev> minecraft.net
#3559 [22:46] <xales> Known issue
#3560 [22:46] <xales> being fixed
#3561 [22:46] <lemon-rev> k
#3562 [22:47] <lemon-rev> fair enough
#3563 [22:47] <lemon-rev> i can join if dns but you get that lol
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#3566 [22:56] <pbc2> waitin waitn waitn...
#3567 [22:57] <xales> pbc2: You do realize it is 4am in Sweden, right?
#3568 [22:57] <pbc2> nope
#3569 [22:57] <pbc2> it wasnt 4am this morning though
#3570 [22:58] <pbc2> they could of answerd me then
#3571 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> It was also sunday
#3572 [22:58] <pbc2> and?
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#3574 [22:58] <pbc2> sweds dont do nothing on sunday?
#3575 [23:00] <xales> ...
#3576 [23:00] <xales> They are also busy responding to the other 10 million emails they get
#3577 [23:01] <pbc2> must of skipped mine
#3578 [23:01] <AndrewPH> Or maybe you aren't all that important sir, and maybe the world doesn't revolve around you.
#3579 [23:01] * xales kicked pbc2 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: I asked you to stop whining. This counts as your last warning.)
#3580 [23:02] <AndrewPH> epic timing son
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#3582 [23:02] <pbc2> dont kick me
#3583 [23:02] <xales> Why not?
#3584 [23:02] <AndrewPH> Listen to the ops, then.
#3585 [23:02] <pbc2> because i said not to
#3586 [23:03] <AndrewPH> Otherwise your wish will not be granted
#3587 [23:03] <pbc2> lol my wish still hasnt been granted
#3588 [23:03] * xales kicked pbc2 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: 5 Ok, I won't kick you)
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#3590 [23:03] <pbc2> stop it
#3591 [23:03] <xales> nou
#3592 [23:03] <AndrewPH> no u pbc
#3593 [23:04] <pbc2> nou ive done nothing
#3594 [23:04] <pbc2> im not the one kicking everybody
#3595 [23:04] <AndrewPH> You've acted like you're entitled to more than anybody else.
#3596 [23:04] <AndrewPH> Also your name is not everybody
#3597 [23:04] <everybody> is now
#3598 [23:04] <xolotl> arguing with ops after being kicked == a great way to avoid being kicked again
#3599 [23:04] <AndrewPH> he didn't kick you when you were everybody
#3600 [23:05] * xales kicked everybody from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Have a nice day, don't come back!)
#3601 [23:05] <AndrewPH> woah you just banned EVERYBODY man
#3602 [23:05] <xales> Inorite
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#3604 [23:05] <xales> dammit, I said GreyVulpine could do that
#3605 [23:05] <Blackstripe> Excuse me. I have a problem trying to play the Classic Minecraft. On my mac, when I attempt to load it, all I see is a Black screen.
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#3607 [23:06] <pbc> lol
#3608 [23:06] <xales> Blackstripe: What version of OSX are you running?
#3609 [23:06] <AndrewPH> pbc, I agree lol
#3610 [23:06] <pbc> u cant ban me on mibit
#3611 [23:06] <AndrewPH> 20:06 | <<pbc>> u cant ban me on mibit
#3612 [23:06] <AndrewPH> epitome of retardedness
#3613 [23:06] <AndrewPH> I just laughed so hard I almost spat my tea
#3614 [23:06] <pbc> its true
#3615 [23:06] <Blackstripe> 10.5.8
#3616 [23:06] <pbc> LOL
#3617 [23:06] <xales> pbc: I can, I unbanned you, fool
#3618 [23:06] <pbc> are u a eurocunt?
#3619 [23:07] <AndrewPH> 20:06 | <<pbc>> u cant ban me on mibit
#3620 [23:07] <xales> GreyVulpine: You can ban him now
#3621 [23:07] <AndrewPH> somebody's have dwons
#3622 [23:07] <xales> bye!
#3623 [23:07] <AndrewPH> looks like you got banned
#3624 [23:07] * GreyVulpine kicked pbc from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Go away)
#3625 [23:07] <AndrewPH> and are on mibbit
#3626 [23:07] * Colossus_ is grabbing his beer and going to watch how pbc is going to fly out of the channel
#3626 [23:07] <Colossus_> dammit missed it xD
#3627 [23:08] <AndrewPH> dsl-216-227-66-115.pmtnet.net
#3628 [23:08] <AndrewPH> lol
#3629 [23:08] <AndrewPH> dsl
#3630 [23:08] <xales> I assume you have seen this, AndrewPH?
#3631 [23:08] <xales> http://www.xkcd.com/849/
#3632 [23:08] <Blackstripe> So, can anyone help me with that problem?
#3633 [23:08] <AndrewPH> I have indeed
#3634 [23:08] <xales> Blackstripe: What model of Mac is it?
#3635 [23:09] <Blackstripe> Macbook
#3636 [23:09] <xales> What year?
#3637 [23:09] <Blackstripe> The black on from 2 years back
#3638 [23:10] <Blackstripe> running latest version of Leopard, not Snowleopard
#3639 [23:11] <xales> Open up Terminal and run 'java -version'
#3640 [23:12] <Blackstripe> 1.5.0_26
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#3642 [23:13] <xales> That may be the problem
#3643 [23:14] <xales> I think Minecraft requires 1.6
#3644 [23:15] <rf`> is minecraft.net still down?
#3645 [23:16] <Blackstripe> So I need to wait until a java update for macs...
#3646 [23:17] <xales> rf`: nope
#3647 [23:17] <xales> Blackstripe: No, there won't be
#3648 [23:17] <xales> I think you need Snow Leopard :/
#3649 [23:17] <xales> check software update though
#3650 [23:17] <rf`> wtf, i haven't been able to connect at all for a solid week
#3651 [23:17] <Blackstripe> I already did.
#3652 [23:17] <xales> rf`: Use a real DNS server
#3653 [23:18] <rf`> um
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#3657 [23:28] <Fantleas> Is there a faster way to download all my MC Beta server data other than via FTP?
#3658 [23:28] <Fantleas> I'm downloading it with Filezilla and hell it's taking it's time...
#3659 [23:28] <Fantleas> And I've only used the server for 1 day, wow.
#3660 [23:31] <rf`> yup, xales: doesn't help :P
#3661 [23:33] <Fantleas> Any ideas?
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#3665 [23:43] <Checkzor> hmm
#3666 [23:43] <Checkzor> whats the authentication command for the maine #minecraft channel
#3667 [23:45] <Checkzor> nvm
#3668 [23:45] <Checkzor> got it
#3669 [23:49] <Fantleas> Hey Checkzor :)
#3670 [23:49] <Fantleas> Remember me?
#3671 [23:50] <Checkzor> I do :P
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#3673 [23:54] <ZachBora> hello
#3674 [23:55] <ZachBora> does anyone know how to make the different wood blocks with the /give command on SMP?
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#3676 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> ZachBora - What do you mean?