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#2 [00:09] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: Presumably the different wood textures (birch, pine, etc)
#3 [00:09] <xolotl> ZachBora: There's currently no way
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#5 [00:13] <rf``> xales: I don't have any control over my router. nothing's changed since before this problem started
#6 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> rf`` - Can you set an alternate DNS?
#7 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> I think xales is away
#8 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> Does your router have that capability?
#9 [00:14] <rf``> i don't really know how or what to set it as
#10 [00:14] <rf``> also, I have no control over it
#11 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> If not, you can always set it in your computer's network properties
#12 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> By no control, do you mean you don't have access to it?
#13 [00:14] <rf``> yeah, My dad's the admin for the network
#14 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> I see
#15 [00:15] <rf``> I'd talk to him directly about it, but its midnight, and he's asleep :P
#16 [00:17] <mollstam> rf``: Guess you could head to http://minecraft-main-1712089420.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com/ and play in browser meanwhile. :)
#17 [00:19] <rf``> why do I feel uncertain about that :P
#18 [00:19] <mollstam> haha, actually you're right
#19 [00:19] <mollstam> you shouldn't trust that : )
#20 [00:20] <rf``> why did you link it then :P
#21 [00:20] <mollstam> Didn't think about how it looked :)
#22 [00:21] <mollstam> although you could google a dns lookup tool, query minecraft.net and find the same address :)
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#25 [00:23] <rf``> still got nothing
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#29 [00:29] <SheepShank> Hey
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#31 [00:29] <SheepShank> Could anyone here help me to set up my server? I have a few questions I need answered.
#32 [00:30] <rf``> yeah I give up.
#33 [00:30] <SheepShank> Wow
#34 [00:30] <SheepShank> I should read first
#35 [00:30] <SheepShank> Ok
#36 [00:30] <SheepShank> Well
#37 [00:31] <SheepShank> How do you set the global weather on the server, the server we have set up has snow everywhere and we want the climate to be tropical/summer
#38 [00:31] <SheepShank> ?
#39 [00:32] <rf``> you don't
#40 [00:33] <SheepShank> There is absolutely no way to change it?
#41 [00:33] <SheepShank> Cause we want to eliminate the snow if possible.
#42 [00:34] <rf``> climate control doesn't exist yet. Its still randomly generated
#43 [00:34] <rf``> as far as i know
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#45 [00:35] <genshou> hello everyone ^_^
#46 [00:35] <SheepShank> Well if we keep restarting the server
#47 [00:36] <genshou> anyone seen Xeratic lately? :x
#48 [00:36] <SheepShank> and get one thats summer time then?
#49 [00:36] <rf``> mollstam: This is what I'm getting when I try to look up the DNS http://pastebin.com/yANe2Kyj
#50 [00:36] <genshou> SheepShank, are you playing Beta or Classic?
#51 [00:37] <SheepShank> The paid one
#52 [00:37] <genshou> ok
#53 [00:37] <mollstam> rf``: what if you lookup www.minecraft.net
#54 [00:38] <genshou> biomes are randomly generated as you play a world, based on a "random seed" included in the level.dat file
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#56 [00:38] <mollstam> also, those issues should be fixed when we update our dns, which we should be doing today
#57 [00:38] <SheepShank> I see.
#58 [00:38] <genshou> You'll get some wintery areas, but most places will be normal
#59 [00:38] <genshou> It's based on a scale of temperature and humidity what biome type each part of your world ends up
#60 [00:38] <SheepShank> I see,
#61 [00:38] <genshou> If you explore further, you'll find non-winter biomes, or you could restart the server with a new world to see if you like that central terrain better :)
#62 [00:39] * genshou likes the snow, it's pretty :)
#62 [00:39] <rf``> mollstam: so its not an issue with my connection personally?
#63 [00:39] <SheepShank> Thank you so much
#64 [00:40] <genshou> np SheepShank :)
#65 [00:40] <mollstam> rf``: Well, our setup isn't 100% valid, but most people's networks can deal with it
#66 [00:41] <mollstam> hopefully everyone will be happy cupcakes when we make our dns record 100% valid : )
#67 [00:41] <rf``> yeah our network is actually fairly strict as far as inbound access goes
#68 [00:41] <SheepShank> ok also the other thing
#69 [00:42] <SheepShank> nvm
#70 [00:42] <SheepShank> thank you sooo much genshou
#71 [00:42] <genshou> SheepShank, have you found the Minecraft wiki yet? :D
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#73 [00:42] <rf``> thanks mollstam
#74 [00:42] <Trapdoor> sup, while playing on my server i keep experiencing what appears to be unloaded chunks
#75 [00:42] <genshou> You can learn more about biomes and a lot of other things there, and look up the newest crafting recipes (note blocks, wool dyes, etc.)
#76 [00:43] <rf``> trapdoor: relog, they'll fix. there's still bugs in the works :P
#77 [00:43] <genshou> ^ sadly that's the only solution for now ;<
#78 [00:43] <rf``> yeah
#79 [00:43] <Trapdoor> hmm, fair enough
#80 [00:43] <genshou> gorrammit
#81 [00:43] <genshou> when will Notch give me back my custom skin xD
#82 [00:43] <Trapdoor> another thing i've experienced since the beginning, is a sort of graphics lag every time i turn around
#83 [00:46] <genshou> Lag as in the framerate stuttering?
#84 [00:46] <Trapdoor> correct
#85 [00:46] <genshou> Or as in chunks not appearing immediately?
#86 [00:46] <Trapdoor> it stutters
#87 [00:46] <genshou> what video card do you have?
#88 [00:46] <Trapdoor> sapphire radeon hd 4870x2
#89 [00:47] <genshou> Seems like a pretty beefy card.
#90 [00:48] <Trapdoor> minecraft is currently running on a 4GB ramdrive, with another 4GB allocation for java, just to rule out I/O issues
#91 [00:48] <genshou> You aren't using a custom texture pack, are you?
#92 [00:48] <Trapdoor> completely stock
#93 [00:48] <genshou> no idea why it'd stutter, then
#94 [00:49] <Trapdoor> holding F3 eliminates the problem
#95 [00:49] <Trapdoor> but lowers the framerate overall
#96 [00:49] <genshou> I use a card I bought for $75 on Newegg in December, and a 128x128 texture pack with ambient occlusion lighting, and I only get very small stutters when looking straight up or down.
#97 [00:50] <Trapdoor> looking straight down i get about 240-250FPS
#98 [00:50] <Trapdoor> looking around gives me 140-160
#99 [00:50] <genshou> mine's usually around 45
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#101 [00:51] <genshou> ;<
#102 [00:51] <genshou> Minecraft is kinda... weird with performance
#103 [00:51] <genshou> partly due to being in Java I think
#104 [00:53] <genshou> if your drivers and DirectX are all up to date, there's probably nothing you can do to fix it
#105 [00:54] <genshou> guys, does lapis lazuli require a specific quality of pick to harvest?
#106 [00:54] <Trapdoor> isnt it opengl?
#107 [00:54] <genshou> could be :v
#108 [00:55] <genshou> considering it's cross-platform Notch might not have given it DirectX support on Windows
#109 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> It does not have directx support
#110 [00:55] <SinZ> I'm pretty sure minecraft is opengl
#111 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> It runs purely off of opengl
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#113 [00:56] <genshou> fail :v
#114 [00:56] <xolotl> genshou: Stone will do, I believe
#115 [00:56] <xolotl> (re: Lapis)
#116 [00:56] <genshou> :)
#117 [00:56] <Trapdoor> so uh, when you turn around in the game, what happens?
#118 [00:56] <Trapdoor> does it load something?
#119 [00:56] <genshou> Good, then I can stop wasting my iron durability ;x
#120 [00:57] <genshou> Trapdoor, when generating a new world or first logging into an SMP server, I've noticed that it doesn't seem to load the chunks outside of view until it's finished loading other stuff
#121 [00:58] <genshou> not sure about what it's up to after you're already fully loaded into the world
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#127 [01:19] <Carson> How do you ignite the portal for the nether?
#128 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> flint and steel
#129 [01:19] <AndrewPH> the flint and steel thing, right click on some of the obsidian that makes the portal
#130 [01:19] <AndrewPH> inside of the portal 'hoop'
#131 [01:20] <Carson> thanks
#132 [01:23] <Merciless> can a shats fire light a portal?
#133 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> It can both close and relight a portal, yes.
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#145 [01:53] <Danster9987> Uhh hi
#146 [01:54] <Danster9987> SMP is extremely laggy for me, is there any way to fix it?
#147 [01:55] <Danster9987> Like if i try to chat my text wont show up until about 3 minutes after if im lucky
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#149 [01:56] <aetherian> augh
#150 [01:56] <aetherian> tlike four freaking pigs spawn in my little 3*7 farm
#151 [01:56] <KillSpammer> Don't make it grass then?
#152 [01:56] <KillSpammer> Problem Solved.
#153 [01:59] <aetherian> okay, I'll make a farm out of cobblestone
#154 [01:59] <aetherian> :|
#155 [01:59] <KillSpammer> No...
#156 [01:59] <KillSpammer> You cover the paths in something other than dirt
#157 [01:59] <KillSpammer> ?
#158 [01:59] <KillSpammer> I mean grass
#159 [01:59] <KillSpammer> Or dirt
#160 [01:59] <KillSpammer> Whatever
#161 [01:59] <aetherian> you don't understand
#162 [01:59] <aetherian> you see
#163 [02:00] <aetherian> I don't have buckets, so no water, so the farm is not actually planting anything yet, however...
#164 [02:00] <KillSpammer> I wonder if mollstam has been back yet :S
#165 [02:00] <KillSpammer> Block the light?
#166 [02:00] <KillSpammer> For now
#167 [02:00] <aetherian> all it is is a 1*7 trough surrounded by two 1*7 rows to plant later
#168 [02:00] <aetherian> 3*7 hut
#169 [02:00] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#170 [02:01] <KillSpammer> Smp?
#171 [02:01] <KillSpammer> Bored :)
#172 [02:01] <aetherian> this is not smp...
#173 [02:01] <aetherian> oh
#174 [02:01] <aetherian> are you asking for smp?
#175 [02:01] <aetherian> omigod
#176 [02:02] <aetherian> as far as I can count
#177 [02:02] <aetherian> in that hut
#178 [02:02] <KillSpammer> Dw...
#179 [02:02] <KillSpammer> Anyway
#180 [02:02] <KillSpammer> :)
#181 [02:02] <aetherian> there are two chickens, two cows, and four pigs
#182 [02:02] <aetherian> freaking menagerie
#183 [02:02] <KillSpammer> Fill it with lava :)
#184 [02:02] <KillSpammer> LOl
#185 [02:02] <aetherian> more than two chickens
#186 [02:02] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#187 [02:02] <aetherian> and I just started this world; I don't have lava yet
#188 [02:02] <KillSpammer> Stop complaining
#189 [02:02] <aetherian> not complaining
#190 [02:02] <aetherian> stating
#191 [02:02] <KillSpammer> YOU ARE!
#192 [02:03] <aetherian> I am.
#193 [02:03] <aetherian> stating.
#194 [02:03] <KillSpammer> Although notch/jeb has to lower the spawn rate for small rooms
#195 [02:03] <aetherian> heh, this is fun.
#196 [02:03] <aetherian> ima make a farm elsewhere, this is gonna be my animal hut
#197 [02:03] <KillSpammer> I want to play vanilla smp :)
#198 [02:04] <lemon-rev> wtf is smp ?
#199 [02:04] <aetherian> 5 pig, 4 chicken, 2 cow=pushy pushy
#200 [02:04] <aetherian> fun fun
#201 [02:04] <aetherian> survival multiplayer
#202 [02:04] <lemon-rev> hm
#203 [02:04] <lemon-rev> just everyone says smp like its more specail than that
#204 [02:04] <lemon-rev> lol
#205 [02:04] <aetherian> no, jus' easier to say
#206 [02:05] <lemon-rev> lol
#207 [02:05] <lemon-rev> fine
#208 [02:05] <KillSpammer> Anyone happen to have the real life name Garry? I met someone with that name who plays minecraft(First person I met who plays it :S)
#209 [02:05] <lemon-rev> ill shut up now
#210 [02:05] <aetherian> killspammer: host yer own soiva
#211 [02:05] <KillSpammer> aetherian, no.
#212 [02:06] <aetherian> bad inet?
#213 [02:06] <aetherian> playing on 512 gigs of ram?
#214 [02:06] <aetherian> *mb
#215 [02:06] <aetherian> not gb
#216 [02:06] <AndrewPH> KillSpammer, Garry Newman does
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#219 [02:08] <aetherian> I found out why nobody uses dirt to build houses
#220 [02:08] <KillSpammer> Lol
#221 [02:08] <aetherian> animals in it, animals on top of it, animals everywhere.
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#223 [02:08] <aetherian> good thing I like these guys
#224 [02:09] <SinZ> KillSpammer, my server uses bukkit, but only realy to test my own plugins
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#226 [02:09] <SinZ> so it has almost no plugins at all
#227 [02:09] <KillSpammer> Wheres it based?
#228 [02:13] <SinZ> home hosted, haven't done port forwarding yet
#229 [02:13] <SinZ> victoria
#230 [02:13] <KillSpammer> :O
#231 [02:13] <KillSpammer> Damn thats so friggen close to me
#232 [02:13] <KillSpammer> Port foward nao
#233 [02:14] <aetherian> I swear, on here, any time someone asks, they make it seem as if it is hard to portforward
#234 [02:14] <KillSpammer> And it is not?
#235 [02:14] <KillSpammer> It takes like 13 second to port foward
#236 [02:14] <KillSpammer> Seriously...
#237 [02:15] <SinZ> mmk, iv port forwarded
#238 [02:15] <SinZ> i need you to test tho
#239 [02:15] <SinZ> lemme update my domain
#240 [02:15] <aetherian> I know
#241 [02:16] <KillSpammer> aetherian, you aussie?
#242 [02:16] <KillSpammer> Or a noob...
#243 [02:16] <aetherian> wait, wazzat?
#244 [02:16] <KillSpammer> :)
#245 [02:16] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#246 [02:16] <aetherian> I am afraid I do not understand the question
#247 [02:16] <KillSpammer> Are you an AUSTRALIAN?
#248 [02:16] <SinZ> stupid dns site
#249 [02:17] <aetherian> KillSpammer: please state your reasons for asking me such a thing.
#250 [02:17] <KillSpammer> Reason: You might wanna play on this server with me
#251 [02:17] <aetherian> I may.
#252 [02:17] <SinZ> i only allow aussies on my server =P
#253 [02:17] <aetherian> hmm
#254 [02:17] <KillSpammer> Other Reason: So i can crawl into your window
#255 [02:17] <SinZ> more for the lag
#256 [02:18] <KillSpammer> SinZ, you think you could make a mod that will generate chunks in like a certain radius around you
#257 [02:19] <KillSpammer> Instead of having annoying little lag
#258 [02:19] <aetherian> Killspammer: I do not live in Australia, let alone in Brisbane
#259 [02:19] <KillSpammer> One giant 30 second lag is better
#260 [02:19] <aetherian> so I doubt you could crawl in my window
#261 [02:19] <SinZ> soz killspammer, I'm too noob at java atm
#262 [02:19] <KillSpammer> I live near Brisbane but all websites pick me up as Brisbane.
#263 [02:20] <SinZ> does it work killspammer?
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#266 [02:30] <SinZ> Welcome Back
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#269 [02:34] <Solvius> goodmorning or hello :)
#270 [02:35] <KillSpammer> *Closes book and swings around on his chair* Ohai.
#271 [02:36] <Solvius> are there still updates ?
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#273 [02:36] <Solvius> every time when I log in thru the browser it has to download stuff
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#275 [02:37] <GuluGulu> morning
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#277 [02:38] <aetherian> oh bloody 'ell
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#281 [02:45] <Solvius> can someone tell me how i can grow tree's and that they are loaded into memory after I planted them ?
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#283 [02:47] <aetherian> solvius: just put the dan thing on some dit
#284 [02:49] <Solvius> I do that, they dont grow
#285 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Have enough light?
#286 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Have enough overhead clearance?
#287 [02:50] <Solvius> clearence enough, and i suppose light to
#288 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Then give it some time... or use bone meal for fertilizer for instant growth
#289 [02:50] <Solvius> 4 blocks up clearence
#290 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, 4 blocks might not be enough
#291 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> I could swear that's changed
#292 [02:51] <Solvius> well I planted them yesterday aroun 2 PM, if nothing has grown now, will it then ever ? :)
#293 [02:52] <Solvius> I try 5 blocks
#294 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I could swear that's changed to at least 8-9
#295 [02:53] * GreyVulpine googles
#295 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> "he block must have at least 6 blocks of space above it, and a light level of 9 in the block above the sapling. "
#296 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tree
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#298 [02:57] <blackcat21> Any Forum mods online?
#299 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> I don't believe so blackcat21.
#300 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> What do you need?
#301 [02:58] <blackcat21> My account was banned on the forums, and I would like to try to get it restored
#302 [02:58] <Solvius> thnx GreyVulpine
#303 [02:59] <blackcat21> I made a post about a server with an illegal download of the game, in the hopes that someone would do something about it. and I guess I wasnt clear enough because I was banned
#304 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Ah.. I see..
#305 [03:01] <Coll> wait I dont understand
#306 [03:01] <Coll> is the I thought the minecraft beta server was a free download
#307 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> It is
#308 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> I think he means a site which offers minecraft for free
#309 [03:02] <KillSpammer> Wow...
#310 [03:02] <blackcat21> They had an account listed with it
#311 [03:02] <KillSpammer> DAMNSZ YOU NOTCH
#312 [03:02] <blackcat21> So you dont have to buy the game
#313 [03:02] <SheepShank> Does anyone know how to create a creative mode server instead of a survival mode server?
#314 [03:02] <KillSpammer> Hacked items won't craft anymore
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#316 [03:04] <KillSpammer> SheepShank, erm... yes
#317 [03:04] <SheepShank> How?
#318 [03:04] <KillSpammer> Download the classic server
#319 [03:04] <KillSpammer> software
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#321 [03:05] <SheepShank> for the bought version tho?
#322 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#323 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> beta doesn't have creative right now
#324 [03:05] <SheepShank> hmm
#325 [03:05] <SheepShank> i dont get it
#326 [03:05] <SheepShank> i put torches everywhere
#327 [03:05] <SheepShank> and zombies still spam
#328 [03:05] <SheepShank> spawn*
#329 [03:05] <SheepShank> in my fort
#330 [03:05] <SheepShank> its so confusing
#331 [03:06] <KillSpammer> SheepShank - Disable mobs and such
#332 [03:07] <blackcat21> So any way I can get help?
#333 [03:07] <KillSpammer> blackcat21 try contacting one through email
#334 [03:07] <blackcat21> Already did
#335 [03:07] <KillSpammer> What was the reason you were banneD?
#336 [03:08] <blackcat21> Last week
#337 [03:08] <Solvius> I have the same, I have torches everywhere and once in a while a creeper or zombie will spawn in the lit area
#338 [03:08] <KillSpammer> Oh...
#339 [03:08] <blackcat21> No reply
#340 [03:08] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#341 [03:08] <KillSpammer> Who did you email?
#342 [03:08] <SheepShank> how do you disable mobs
#343 [03:08] <blackcat21> Board Admin email that it gave me
#344 [03:08] <KillSpammer> SheepShank, in the server.properties
#345 [03:09] <KillSpammer> Ok brb
#346 [03:09] <KillSpammer> I'll try get one for you
#347 [03:09] <KillSpammer> Since i'm epic
#348 [03:09] <blackcat21> Well that would earn you my eternal gratitude
#349 [03:09] <KillSpammer> I have slow net so its quiet annoying load pages
#350 [03:09] <KillSpammer> No promises though
#351 [03:11] <SinZ> heh
#352 [03:12] <KillSpammer> How dare you heh at me
#353 [03:12] <SinZ> just did >:D
#354 [03:12] <blackcat21> brb
#355 [03:12] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, i demand a kick!
#356 [03:13] <KillSpammer> Towards SinZ!
#357 [03:13] <SinZ> =(
#358 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Request denied
#359 [03:13] <SinZ> =D
#360 [03:13] <KillSpammer> Slap me now
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#362 [03:16] <KillSpammer> blackcat21, it doesn't seem like anyone i know is non-idle who is the founder :)
#363 [03:16] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#364 [03:16] <KillSpammer> Nvm
#365 [03:17] <blackcat21> Ahh
#366 [03:17] <BarryCarlyon> Solvius: what height? Creepers and things can still spawn in high light areas if you are at lower altitudes (IE Caves)
#367 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I can't raise anybody
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#369 [03:19] <zgamer> hmm
#370 [03:20] <zgamer> is there any way to see what email you registered your account with?
#371 [03:20] <KillSpammer> BarryCarlyon, most mobs can spawn at any level apart from slimes
#372 [03:20] <KillSpammer> Also
#373 [03:20] <KillSpammer> Notch recently added at lower levels torches and such have lower light output
#374 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> I think that was removed
#375 [03:23] <GuluGulu> the 500 Servlet Exception error has returned !
#376 [03:23] <KillSpammer> :O
#377 [03:23] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#378 [03:23] <KillSpammer> GuluGulu - Pastebin.com it
#379 [03:24] <KillSpammer> Oh nvm...
#380 [03:24] <KillSpammer> Slap me
#381 [03:24] <GuluGulu> :P
#382 [03:24] <GuluGulu> i mean the website error that had last night for long time
#383 [03:24] <GuluGulu> and yes befor some time i realise that once u die you are spawned in new world right ?
#384 [03:25] <zgamer> "So far 0 people have registered and 0 people bought the game. More stats here. " < lol
#385 [03:27] <GuluGulu> lets see if the pc can handle server client and fraps at same time
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#388 [03:47] <the_late_man> my internet absolutely fails it when I use my laptop in my room.
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#390 [03:49] <the_late_man> crud, the guy I was looking for quit like five hours ago
#391 [03:51] <netherian> !ping
#392 [03:51] <GreyBot> netherian Your Ping time was 0.35 Seconds.
#393 [03:52] <netherian> whoa, that's not right...
#394 [03:52] <Koi> !ping
#395 [03:52] <GreyBot> Koi Your Ping time was 0.24 Seconds.
#396 [03:52] <Koi> hm
#397 [03:52] <Koi> must be the streaming on my line
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#400 [03:53] <kermit> Hey everyone, If I buy Minecraft for my brother right now, will he still get all the benefits I have when buying it alpha, like free updates ?
#401 [03:53] <netherian> koi: that's a good ping, blechse
#402 [03:53] <netherian> kermit: no...
#403 [03:54] <netherian> I mean
#404 [03:54] <netherian> duh no
#405 [03:54] <kermit> Are you sure ? It's still beta
#406 [03:55] <netherian> ............
#407 [03:55] <KillSpammer> !ping
#408 [03:55] <GreyBot> KillSpammer Your Ping time was 0.461 Seconds.
#409 [03:55] <KillSpammer> Erm...
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#411 [03:56] <team_NOOB> Any mac users in the house?
#412 [03:56] <KillSpammer> kermit, if you bought the game in alpha he won't get alpha benifits if you bought it in beta which is currently in he will still get it.
#413 [03:56] <netherian> !ping
#414 [03:56] <netherian> team: lolno
#415 [03:56] <GreyBot> netherian Your Ping time was 26.217 Seconds.
#416 [03:56] <KillSpammer> Kermit: You get free updates up to the full game and free bugfixes forever
#417 [03:57] <netherian> that's more like it
#418 [03:57] <netherian> rofl
#419 [03:57] <kermit> Right, that's what I wanted to know
#420 [03:57] <team_NOOB> cmon surely theres gotta be one person in here with a mac
#421 [03:57] <KillSpammer> Netherian you had a anti-lag-spike
#422 [03:57] <netherian> haha
#423 [03:57] <KillSpammer> team_NOOB, if they do they are apart of team_NOOB
#424 [03:57] <netherian> no kidding
#425 [03:57] <team_NOOB> LOL
#426 [03:58] <kermit> oh and thanks
#427 [03:58] <netherian> my router has a range of like less than 9000thnds of a meter
#428 [03:58] <KillSpammer> Although netbooks seem to run minecraft like a dream.
#429 [03:58] <netherian> nightmares are dreams too
#430 [03:58] <KillSpammer> True...
#431 [03:59] <KillSpammer> I wish Kermit would of stayed...
#432 [03:59] <KillSpammer> team_NOOB, you have to stay now
#433 [03:59] <KillSpammer> We need more around here
#434 [03:59] <team_NOOB> stay where?
#435 [03:59] <team_NOOB> im here for life
#436 [03:59] <netherian> lol
#437 [04:00] <netherian> you mean till your mac dies
#438 [04:00] <netherian> tomorrow
#439 [04:00] <KillSpammer> :)
#440 [04:00] <team_NOOB> probably
#441 [04:00] <team_NOOB> at the rate its going
#442 [04:00] <team_NOOB> i have two fans pointed at it to keep the loser cool
#443 [04:00] <netherian> yay pc
#444 [04:01] <team_NOOB> and on top of that minecraft just lags since the latest update
#445 [04:01] <netherian> if you don't like java quit going to starbucks >:O
#446 [04:06] <netherian> well gos um er gee u like well
#447 [04:07] <netherian> *u
#448 [04:07] <netherian> *uh
#449 [04:07] <netherian> darn breaking key
#450 [04:07] <netherian> night guys
#451 [04:07] <netherian> team_NOOB: get a pc :D
#452 [04:07] <team_NOOB> laterz
#453 [04:07] <team_NOOB> never!
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#456 [04:08] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#457 [04:08] <KillSpammer> NOOOO! he left
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#460 [04:08] <KillSpammer> THAT MOFO!
#461 [04:08] <netherian> do what I did
#462 [04:09] <netherian> ping him like 4-5 times real quick, then /msg him telling him to get a pc
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#464 [04:09] <netherian> GET A PC
#465 [04:09] <KillSpammer> How dare you leave
#466 [04:09] <netherian> killspammer: depends on the client
#467 [04:09] <team_NOOB> lol sorry :( pressed cntlr + w thinking i was closing a safari window
#468 [04:10] <netherian> su-ure
#469 [04:10] <netherian> except
#470 [04:10] <KillSpammer> Sure...
#471 [04:10] <netherian> you were still in #minecraft
#472 [04:10] <netherian> lol
#473 [04:10] <team_NOOB> yeh i closed the room ;)
#474 [04:10] <netherian> oh right
#475 [04:10] <team_NOOB> since when does minecraft save your map files?
#476 [04:10] <netherian> they must not make irc for macs
#477 [04:10] <team_NOOB> i want to delete and start again
#478 [04:10] <netherian> team_noob: since like ever
#479 [04:11] <team_NOOB> nah
#480 [04:11] <netherian> team_noob: get a pc to do that
#481 [04:11] <team_NOOB> oh i just re-read that
#482 [04:11] <team_NOOB> i used to be able to delete everything and start again
#483 [04:11] <he_who_slumbers> like, with same map?
#484 [04:12] <team_NOOB> nah i want to start everything gresh - re downloaded the latest minecraft
#485 [04:12] <team_NOOB> and want to start with a new map too
#486 [04:12] <team_NOOB> but wont let me
#487 [04:12] <he_who_slumbers> lolmac
#488 [04:12] <team_NOOB> lol get over it
#489 [04:12] <he_who_slumbers> lolno
#490 [04:12] <team_NOOB> im a graphic designer and windows is ugly as fuck
#491 [04:13] <team_NOOB> what im supposed to say no to a free laptop from work?
#492 [04:13] <team_NOOB> yeh ok :\
#493 [04:13] <he_who_slumbers> not really, but anyway, I am currently trying to get linux installed
#494 [04:13] <he_who_slumbers> but right now I have w7
#495 [04:13] <KillSpammer> team_NOOB, edit the fucking files you lazy bastard
#496 [04:13] <team_NOOB> yeh i am :P
#497 [04:13] <he_who_slumbers> killspammer: he uses a mac. of course he's a lazy bastard
#498 [04:13] <he_who_slumbers> team_noob: why do you like macs?
#499 [04:14] <KillSpammer> And erm...
#500 [04:14] * he_who_slumbers postpones bed
#500 [04:14] <KillSpammer> Windows 7 Has some nice graphics..
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#502 [04:14] <NeuTronas> Hello, who can help me about the server?
#503 [04:14] <he_who_slumbers> me
#504 [04:15] <team_NOOB> deleting EVERYTHING
#505 [04:15] <he_who_slumbers> lolmac
#506 [04:15] <NeuTronas> slumbers look at PM
#507 [04:17] <KillSpammer> NeuTronas erm... don't trust him lol
#508 [04:18] <KillSpammer> I don't
#509 [04:18] <KillSpammer> Everyone trusts me
#510 [04:18] <he_who_slumbers> LOL
#511 [04:18] <NeuTronas> okay
#512 [04:18] <NeuTronas> <NeuTronas> i have got the server and i can join into it.
#513 [04:18] <NeuTronas> <NeuTronas> but my friends can't...
#514 [04:18] <NeuTronas> <NeuTronas> they just timed out
#515 [04:18] <NeuTronas> <NeuTronas> my server console writes: lost connection: disconnect.endOfStream
#516 [04:18] <NeuTronas> <NeuTronas> any ideas?
#517 [04:18] <he_who_slumbers> killspammer: you just made my day
#518 [04:18] <he_who_slumbers> 84.55.23.129
#519 [04:18] <he_who_slumbers> to save you some time
#520 [04:18] <he_who_slumbers> my mc is failing
#521 [04:19] <he_who_slumbers> and it's 1:20
#522 [04:19] <he_who_slumbers> I gotta g2b
#523 [04:19] <NeuTronas> slumber how do you know my IP?
#524 [04:19] <KillSpammer> What?
#525 [04:19] <KillSpammer> Lol
#526 [04:19] <he_who_slumbers> neutronas: 1337 H4xx0rz
#527 [04:19] <KillSpammer> NeuTronas, its irc
#528 [04:19] <NeuTronas> oh
#529 [04:19] <NeuTronas> yh
#530 [04:19] <KillSpammer> ./whois ftw
#531 [04:19] <he_who_slumbers> killspammer: ssshhhh
#532 [04:19] <KillSpammer> To late :)
#533 [04:19] <KillSpammer> No i haz no idea
#534 [04:19] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, halp!
#535 [04:19] <he_who_slumbers> and it's not ./whois
#536 [04:19] <he_who_slumbers> it's
#537 [04:19] <he_who_slumbers> /whois
#538 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> ?
#539 [04:19] <he_who_slumbers> waugh
#540 [04:20] <he_who_slumbers> this guy...
#541 [04:20] <he_who_slumbers> whoa
#542 [04:20] <he_who_slumbers> grey, do ya stuff
#543 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> Can I help you?
#544 [04:20] <he_who_slumbers> neutronas
#545 [04:20] <NeuTronas> yes?
#546 [04:20] <he_who_slumbers> meet grey
#547 [04:20] <he_who_slumbers> grey
#548 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> 'lo?
#549 [04:20] <he_who_slumbers> meet neutronas
#550 [04:20] <he_who_slumbers> now go talk over your problem in a corner or something
#551 [04:21] * GreyVulpine blinks
#551 [04:21] <he_who_slumbers> I'm sure you two will become fast friends
#552 [04:21] <KillSpammer> Lol
#553 [04:21] * KillSpammer relocates GreyVulpine to NeuTronas
#553 [04:21] <he_who_slumbers> /tp greyvulpine neutronas
#554 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> Not enough permissions for that command
#555 [04:33] <GuluGulu> anyone got time to check if he can connect remotely to my server ?
#556 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#557 [04:34] <GreyVulpine> 85.73.215.98?
#558 [04:35] <GuluGulu> let me chekc
#559 [04:36] <GuluGulu> yes :)
#560 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't look like it wants to connect
#561 [04:36] <GuluGulu> kk let me change something
#562 [04:37] <GuluGulu> can u try now ?
#563 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> Works
#564 [04:38] <GuluGulu> ty :d
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#567 [04:58] <GuluGulu> sapling are the one u need for growing up a tree right ?
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#569 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#571 [04:59] <Moraisen> hi
#572 [05:00] <GuluGulu> and how long does it take to grow up without bone :S
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#574 [05:00] <GuluGulu> i have it like 2 days (minecraft days ofc)
#575 [05:00] <Moraisen> i get the following error after launching minecraft.exe
#576 [05:00] <Moraisen> http://pastebin.com/KPyc5bmq
#577 [05:01] <Moraisen> ofc im not running under win 98, but running it without any compatibillity modes i get only a blackscreen
#578 [05:01] <Moraisen> my OS is Windows XP sp3, 1,6 ghz dualcore, about 1,5 gb ram
#579 [05:01] <Moraisen> some crappy onboard graphics card
#580 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> Moraisen - Can you tell me what video card you have, and if you updated those drivers
#581 [05:02] <Moraisen> hm
#582 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> GuluGulu - It needs to have two things, sufficient light, and height clearance
#583 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> as well as being on soil
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#585 [05:03] <Moraisen> Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family
#586 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> Laptop?
#587 [05:03] <Moraisen> driver date February 2008
#588 [05:03] <Moraisen> yeah
#589 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> Driver brand/model?
#590 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> er
#591 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> laptop
#592 [05:03] <Moraisen> dell
#593 [05:03] <Moraisen> dell latitude d620
#594 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> Have you checked Dell's site for a possible updatE?
#595 [05:04] <GuluGulu> grey well it's totaly outdoors so it should be all right i guess :S i have to check if it has LOS to sun tho..
#596 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> Just place a torch right next to the sapling
#597 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> Make sure nothing's overhead for at least 6 blocks
#598 [05:05] <GuluGulu> oh cool torch can work !
#599 [05:05] <GuluGulu> gonna try that
#600 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#601 [05:06] <Moraisen> dell has some driver from 2007
#602 [05:06] <Moraisen> so i have got an even never
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#604 [05:07] <GuluGulu> seems like torch ligh atracts sheeps etc...
#605 [05:09] <Moraisen> maybe i should try the windows 7 drivers
#606 [05:09] <Moraisen> they are from 200ß
#607 [05:09] <Moraisen> they are from 2009
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#609 [05:10] <Oranene> Hi
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#611 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Moraisen - Maybe..
#612 [05:10] <Oranene> Hi
#613 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Oranene - Hi
#614 [05:10] <ciamkpl> Hello
#615 [05:10] <ciamkpl> lookin' for help
#616 [05:10] <Oranene> Mm
#617 [05:10] <Oranene> Yes.
#618 [05:10] <ciamkpl> i have a problem
#619 [05:10] <ciamkpl> couldn't find
#620 [05:10] <ciamkpl> minimum requirements for minecraft
#621 [05:10] <ciamkpl> i have a laptop
#622 [05:10] <Oranene> Are you getting the Pixel problem?
#623 [05:10] <ciamkpl> as a second computer/server
#624 [05:10] <ciamkpl> nope
#625 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft changes all the time, there are no fixed minimum requirements
#626 [05:11] <ciamkpl> but it is old a bit
#627 [05:11] <ciamkpl> will minecraft run
#628 [05:11] <ciamkpl> on 2.0 ghz processor
#629 [05:11] <ciamkpl> and
#630 [05:11] <ciamkpl> 16 mb graphic card ?
#631 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> 16mg graphics card?
#632 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Unlikely
#633 [05:12] <ciamkpl> everything this gpu has, those direct3d etc
#634 [05:12] <ciamkpl> but i think is gonna be laggy
#635 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft doesn't use direct3d
#636 [05:12] <ciamkpl> opengl
#637 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes, what standard does your graphics card support of OpenGL?
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#639 [05:12] <ciamkpl> just asking for sure
#640 [05:12] <ciamkpl> because when laptop was on xp
#641 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Absolute minimum is OpenGL standard of 1.3 or 1.4
#642 [05:13] <ciamkpl> minecraft started after installing video drivers
#643 [05:13] <ciamkpl> yes, it has opengl
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#645 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> There are different versions of OpenGL
#646 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> having OpenGL doesn't necessarily mean you're running the standard neccessary
#647 [05:14] <ciamkpl> I am not new to computer software, but i prefer looking for help on irc than on google.
#648 [05:14] <ciamkpl> thanks for help
#649 [05:14] <ciamkpl> one more question.
#650 [05:14] <ciamkpl> Minecraft, when was on xp
#651 [05:14] <ciamkpl> started, loaded map
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#653 [05:15] <ciamkpl> and when you play
#654 [05:15] <ciamkpl> co can notice
#655 [05:15] <Oranenene> -.-'
#656 [05:15] <ciamkpl> dark ovan over the corners
#657 [05:15] <ciamkpl> of the minecraft screen
#658 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#659 [05:15] <ciamkpl> they were a little bit too oval
#660 [05:15] <ciamkpl> i mean ( bad english soz)
#661 [05:15] <ciamkpl> that the corners of the minecraft window
#662 [05:15] <ciamkpl> are darken at night
#663 [05:16] <ciamkpl> on my computer they look normal
#664 [05:16] <ciamkpl> but on laptop they look like some rings
#665 [05:16] <ciamkpl> that are getting darker
#666 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> I have no clue why that is ciamkpl. Haven't heard of anybody experiencing that
#667 [05:17] <ciamkpl> I cannot explain it, sry
#668 [05:17] <ciamkpl> i can only upload screens.
#669 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Is it possible for you to take a screenshot?
#670 [05:17] <ciamkpl> yes
#671 [05:17] <ciamkpl> but not from laptop
#672 [05:17] <ciamkpl> I can show you it on my computer.
#673 [05:17] <peru> DAMN IT NOTCH, fix those downloadable exe on minecraft.net.. i still have to run game through mc.bat with memory adjustments
#674 [05:18] <Moraisen> im downloading a opengl checking file now
#675 [05:18] <Moraisen> because i dont know which version of opengl i have
#676 [05:20] <ciamkpl> GreyVulpine sorry for waisting your time, i solved the problem by changing graphic setting to FAST.
#677 [05:20] <ciamkpl> thanks for help
#678 [05:20] <ciamkpl> bye
#679 [05:20] <GreyVulpine> Cya
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#682 [05:37] <SinZ> hey bacon
#683 [05:38] * SinZ stabs bacon with a fork and throws on my frying pan
#683 [05:38] * SinZ takes bacon off the frying pan and puts into mouth and eats bacon
#683 [05:38] <Moraisen> OMNOMONOM
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#688 [05:58] <kos> Hey chaps, can anyone tell me if there is a way (without mods) to change the number of mobs that spawn on my server? The Server.properties page on Minepedia isn't very complete.
#689 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, no, not without mods
#690 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> You can only turn them on or off
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#694 [06:05] <kos> cheers.
#695 [06:05] <kos> right, now to start looking at Mods then :D
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#706 [07:29] <Rasmus> hey... anyone else stuck at: "Updating Minecraft - Downloading Packages" at 5 - 10% ?
#707 [07:29] <mbentley> hmm, let me open my client
#708 [07:30] <mbentley> nope, seems ok to me. tried deleting the %appdata%\.minecraft\bin directory and trying again?
#709 [07:31] <Rasmus> just found it that it was due to Office installing, and then minecraft couldn't install at the same time, so my bad :)
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#715 [07:53] <mib_fjq9yt> Hi @ all, ya know, why the launcher updates that long?
#716 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Define "long"
#717 [07:54] <mib_fjq9yt> ~1 hour
#718 [07:54] <mib_fjq9yt> 'Downloading Packages'
#719 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Slow 'net?
#720 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Usually only takes less than a minute
#721 [07:55] <mbentley> mine just updated and it zipped right along
#722 [07:55] <mib_fjq9yt> ive fast i-net...
#723 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> I have no clue what i-net is
#724 [07:55] <mib_fjq9yt> net
#725 [07:55] <mib_fjq9yt> www
#726 [07:55] <mbentley> so close the launcher and start it again
#727 [07:55] <mib_fjq9yt> how ever...
#728 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> How are you gettin git
#729 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> getting it*
#730 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> What service are you on
#731 [07:56] <mib_fjq9yt> I bought it, recieved my code...
#732 [07:56] <mib_fjq9yt> service?
#733 [07:56] <mib_fjq9yt> Visa?
#734 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> Type of internet
#735 [07:57] <mib_fjq9yt> DSL
#736 [07:57] <GreyVulpine> Dialup/ISDN/cable/DSL/fibre/
#737 [07:57] <mib_fjq9yt> rnd 1% of the total capacity...
#738 [07:58] <mib_fjq9yt> *0,1
#739 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> Can you run a test at speedtest.net?
#740 [07:59] <mib_fjq9yt> ok
#741 [08:01] <mib_fjq9yt> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1125384691.png
#742 [08:03] * GreyVulpine blinks
#742 [08:03] * GreyVulpine pokes mbentley, "Am I reading that right?"
#742 [08:03] <mbentley> holy...
#743 [08:04] <mbentley> guess you weren't kidding when you said you have fast internet
#744 [08:04] <mbentley> haha
#745 [08:04] <mbentley> those speeds will max out common hard drives
#746 [08:05] <mib_fjq9yt> Sry man, i have W-Lan and it is fast enought for me...
#747 [08:06] <mbentley> if those speeds are accurate, they are like 15x faster than what i have and it is a pretty top tier home package :D
#748 [08:06] <mib_fjq9yt> If it isnt it would be nice, if anyone is able to say, how long the launcher needs anymore...
#749 [08:06] <mbentley> it should download the packages pretty quickly... if it is still loading, just force it to close and start it up again
#750 [08:07] <mib_fjq9yt> ok...
#751 [08:07] <mib_fjq9yt> ah, ok, it finished...
#752 [08:07] <mib_fjq9yt> thx @ all, greets from snowy germany
#753 [08:08] <LatHans> I would rather keep my 100/100 Mbps line than have gigabit download while going down to 1,69 Mbps upload :p
#754 [08:09] <mbentley> lol yeah, that would be brutal
#755 [08:10] <LatHans> even my shdsl line had 2,3 Mbps upload ;)
#756 [08:13] <Jose_Jalapeno> yay the password reset works again \o/
#757 [08:14] <GreyVulpine> Yay
#758 [08:14] <GreyVulpine> You can thank mollstam for that
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#760 [08:21] <Jose_Jalapeno> hmm
#761 [08:22] <Jose_Jalapeno> Expected parameters missing:
#762 [08:22] <Jose_Jalapeno> data
#763 [08:22] <Jose_Jalapeno> currency
#764 [08:22] <Jose_Jalapeno> when trying to buy game
#765 [08:22] <some1> minecraft.net down again?
#766 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> shouldn't be...
#767 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> Nope, it's up
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#770 [08:30] <zelda> hi
#771 [08:31] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#772 [08:32] <zelda> do I get a registration email after I filled the formular?
#773 [08:32] <GreyVulpine> Huh
#774 [08:32] <GreyVulpine> ?
#775 [08:33] <zelda> Yesterday I filled the Registration form and pressed the Registration button -> to send it to the server
#776 [08:33] <GreyVulpine> To minecraft.net?
#777 [08:33] <zelda> but now if I try to log in He jumps back to the start page
#778 [08:33] <zelda> yes
#779 [08:34] <GreyVulpine> Do you see yourself logged in, in the upper left?
#780 [08:34] <GreyVulpine> er, right
#781 [08:34] <zelda> he jumps back unlogged in
#782 [08:34] <GreyVulpine> Is cookies enabled on your browser?
#783 [08:35] <zelda> mom
#784 [08:35] <zelda> k I think that's the problem -_-
#785 [08:36] <zelda> k that was it
#786 [08:36] <zelda> can I use the downloadable beta program only if I purchase the full version?
#787 [08:37] <mbentley> right, you have to buy the game to play beta
#788 [08:37] <mbentley> classic = free
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#791 [08:43] <VirtualGun> Hey
#792 [08:43] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#793 [08:44] <VirtualGun> I have some problems with buying to game. Can someone help me?
#794 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> What problem specifically?
#795 [08:44] <VirtualGun> When i have entered my card information it goes directly to: Expected parameters missing:
#796 [08:44] <VirtualGun> data
#797 [08:44] <VirtualGun> currency
#798 [08:45] <VirtualGun> VerifyEasy error
#799 [08:45] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, try going through paypal
#800 [08:45] <GreyVulpine> Different system
#801 [08:45] <VirtualGun> Ok :) Thanks.
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#810 [09:06] <Jose_Jalapeno> VirtualGun i got the same problem :p
#811 [09:06] <schnozzle> any one know how long the servers will be in migration for si i can upload some charier skins
#812 [09:06] <Jose_Jalapeno> is paypal working?
#813 [09:07] <mollstam> :o
#814 [09:07] * GreyVulpine pokes mollstam
#814 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> Credit card app on website broken?
#815 [09:09] <mollstam> The callback had problem during the downtime
#816 [09:09] <schnozzle> im havign an issue changing my avitar skin any one know when the servers will be fully migrated
#817 [09:09] <Hawkzy`> (/amsg) Sleep now. Bye. Say my name if you need me, not like you'll need me anytime soon because you'll probably have FAQs and wikis and help channels for those sorts of things and probably other people who are more skilled on the subject that you need mentor because I don't know much about coding so I leave it up to Planitia to sort out but even he can stuff up sometimes but not much because he knows too much and so I leave it to lim-Dul who basicall
#818 [09:09] <Hawkzy`> never fails because he has a rather large community of dudes who know a lot more a t coding than I do and I think they can code while they're asleep but I am not capable of such deeds so I will sleep before I hurt something or someone kthxbai.
#819 [09:09] <mollstam> but the app should work, but we're getting overloaded errors from the provider
#820 [09:09] <mollstam> will give them a call
#821 [09:10] <SinZ> mollstam, your part of mojang, yes
#822 [09:10] <mollstam> yes
#823 [09:10] <SinZ> is the only way to recover my account that was brute forced to give the transaction id?
#824 [09:11] <SinZ> because i was gifted (the old way) so i cant get the transaction id
#825 [09:11] <mollstam> do you have access to the accounts e-mail?
#826 [09:11] <erik> ... still no confirmation mail, nor am i able to log in to my minecraft account bought 2 days ago
#827 [09:12] <SinZ> they changed it when they bruteforced
#828 [09:12] <mollstam> erik: The callback was unable to talk to the servers when they were down.
#829 [09:12] <mollstam> SinZ: when was this?
#830 [09:12] <erik> what does that mean?
#831 [09:12] <SinZ> well, i was brute forced on christmas
#832 [09:13] <mollstam> erik: the confirmation and purchase should go through during the day
#833 [09:13] <erik> to-day?
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#835 [09:14] <erik> never mind, was able to reset pw and log in now
#836 [09:14] <Jose_Jalapeno> mollstam is this error also because of overload?
#837 [09:14] <Jose_Jalapeno> VerifyEasy error
#838 [09:14] <Jose_Jalapeno> Expected parameters missing:
#839 [09:14] <Jose_Jalapeno> data
#840 [09:14] <Jose_Jalapeno> currency
#841 [09:16] <mollstam> I'm not sure, I'm about to give them a call
#842 [09:17] <Jose_Jalapeno> kk :)
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#853 [09:45] <Smargoos> hi everyone
#854 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#855 [09:45] <Smargoos> hi grey again
#856 [09:45] <Smargoos> why cant my friend join to my server but i can?
#857 [09:46] <Postoffice> is he using the rigth IP?
#858 [09:46] <Smargoos> y
#859 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> What ip is he using to join?
#860 [09:46] <Smargoos> my ip what i got from hamachi
#861 [09:47] <Smargoos> i got in with that same
#862 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> And he also has hamachi?
#863 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> And is in the same network?
#864 [09:47] <Smargoos> no
#865 [09:47] <Smargoos> should we get in same network?
#866 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> He needs to be on hamachi as well
#867 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> And yes
#868 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> He needs to join the same network you are in
#869 [09:48] <Smargoos> ok
#870 [09:48] <Smargoos> how do i get into those servers that i dont know without going in hamachi with them?
#871 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> You don't
#872 [09:49] <Smargoos> but why is this differrent?
#873 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean, different?
#874 [09:49] <Smargoos> is it cause portforwarding?
#875 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> It bypasses the need for port forwarding because it's a VPN program
#876 [09:49] <Smargoos> i mean that my friend has to be in hamachi but i dont when i join to another server
#877 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> However, the way hamachi works is that it tunnels through the internet, to a virtual LAN that you set up with other people
#878 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> If you host a server on hamachi, other people need to have hamachi, and join your network as well
#879 [09:50] <Smargoos> can i host if meand my friend are in same network?
#880 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#881 [09:51] <Smargoos> that is created by someone else?
#882 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#883 [09:51] <Smargoos> or do i have to do my own?
#884 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to have your own.
#885 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> As long as you're on the same hamachi network, you are technically in a VPN session together
#886 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> And can use the 5.x.y.z address
#887 [09:52] <Smargoos> ok
#888 [09:53] <Smargoos> and what was with minecraft server yester day or was it day after that i had to play in offline
#889 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> Server migration issues, all taken care of
#890 [09:53] <Smargoos> good
#891 [09:53] <Smargoos> will there be new in near future or in distant future?
#892 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> new?
#893 [09:56] <feenyx> I would like to purchase some new
#894 [09:57] <Smargoos> ndew migration
#895 [09:57] <Smargoos> new
#896 [09:57] <Jose_Jalapeno> i too would ilke to purchase
#897 [09:57] <Jose_Jalapeno> but its still not working :P
#898 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> Smargoos - The server migration already happened.
#899 [09:58] <SinZ> Going to bed, night
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#903 [10:12] <josias> hi, i have a problem with starting minecraft. if i start, the program loads but turns than black... and nothing happend any more (ubuntu 10.4, core2duo 2GHz, 2GB Ram) does somebody know about that?
#904 [10:14] <mbentley> josias: how far do you get when starting minecraft?
#905 [10:15] <mbentley> like after login?
#906 [10:16] <Smargoos> greyvulpine it still doesnt work
#907 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#908 [10:16] <Smargoos> and hamachi says tunnel staright
#909 [10:17] <josias> if i start that on the browser after loading some file, on the PC after the login
#910 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Smargoos - Then do you have any sort of software firewall running on the computer, or security suite?
#911 [10:17] <Smargoos> straight and he gets error connection timed out
#912 [10:17] <mbentley> josias: might try removing the ~\.minecraft\bin directory and trying again
#913 [10:18] * xales pokes mbentley, "graphics card/driver"
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#915 [10:19] <Smargoos> i found way
#916 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> corrupt minecraft files could also do it xales.
#917 [10:19] <mbentley> yeah, that was my next guess
#918 [10:19] <wiggins96> any one know when im gona be able to upload my avatars again
#919 [10:19] <Smargoos> its because hamachis network was public but now i putted it to home network and it works
#920 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> wiggins96 - We have no ETA on that.
#921 [10:19] <wiggins96> kk
#922 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> Smargoos - Ah, okay.
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#924 [10:20] <Smargoos> now i have new problem
#925 [10:20] <Smargoos> when i cut tree down it gets back!!!
#926 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> Move away from spawn
#927 [10:20] <mbentley> Smargoos: are you in the spawn zone?
#928 [10:20] <Smargoos> and i dont get anything
#929 [10:21] <Smargoos> ty helped :D
#930 [10:21] <Smargoos> u are really helpful
#931 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, all lies.
#932 [10:22] <josias> mbentley: nothing... just black
#933 [10:22] <Smargoos> just question how do i change mod from normal to likrep eaceful?
#934 [10:22] <Smargoos> like peaceful
#935 [10:22] <mbentley> josias: do you know what type of video card you have?
#936 [10:22] <mbentley> as xales mentioned, it could be that you do not have the 3rd party video drivers installed
#937 [10:23] <mbentley> you might check this >> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17495/how-to-add-proprietary-drivers-to-ubuntu-10.04/
#938 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Smargoos - You need to change your server.properties, turn off spawn-monsters
#939 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> by turning off monster spawning, you enable peaceful mod
#940 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> mode*
#941 [10:23] <mbentley> that will direct you how to install the proprietary drivers if you have not done so yet
#942 [10:23] <josias> mbentley: its an intel
#943 [10:24] <mbentley> not sure if intel has proprietary drivers, but it would be good to check.
#944 [10:25] <josias> no its opensource...
#945 [10:25] <xales> I can't imagine it would work too well, if at all, on the intel driver/card =/
#946 [10:25] <xales> especially not older intel cards, which seriously suck
#947 [10:25] <mbentley> i can run minecraft from my laptop on debian that has intel integrated. works ok at lowest settings
#948 [10:25] <xales> newer ones too, but the old ones are just scary bad
#949 [10:26] <xales> mbentley: the newer cards, not some of the older ones =/
#950 [10:26] <mbentley> my laptop is old lol
#951 [10:26] <josias> its its 2 years old...
#952 [10:26] <xales> what card is it?
#953 [10:28] <mbentley> might be related to openjdk...
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#955 [10:31] <josias> Intel GMA 950
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#957 [10:32] <VontroX> Did anyone else have problem with ordering gift codes?
#958 [10:32] <xales> VontroX: Known issue, related to the server move. Just gotta wait a bit.
#959 [10:33] <VontroX> Thanks :)
#960 [10:33] <VontroX> Is there any date for when the move is done?
#961 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> It already is done, there's just some kinks to work out still
#962 [10:34] <josias> mbentley: no its the same on sun and openjdk
#963 [10:34] <mbentley> hmm, odd
#964 [10:34] <VontroX> Thank you so much :)
#965 [10:35] <mbentley> probably silly, but could you verify that you have 'xserver-xorg-video-intel' installed?
#966 [10:35] <josias> mbentley: sadly the program starts an extra jdk so i cant see the stdout- or stderr- messages
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#968 [10:37] <mbentley> josias: you can always open a terminal window and run it
#969 [10:37] <mbentley> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#970 [10:37] <josias> ah thanks
#971 [10:38] * ConMan8 wonders why he hasn't increased his Xmx, increases it, tries to play Minecraft, and remembers why
#971 [10:45] <josias> mbentley: its openGL and the second screen... if i turnd of the external screen it works fine
#972 [10:45] <mbentley> sounds like a driver issue then
#973 [10:46] <mbentley> when you have the external screen enabled, it is set up as the primary display?
#974 [10:46] <mbentley> can you open minecraft on the external display?
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#976 [10:51] <peru__> DAMN IT NOTCH, fix those downloadable exe on minecraft.net.. i still have to run game through mc.bat with memory adjustments
#977 [10:51] <josias> mbentley: it es the one and only screen
#978 [10:52] <ConMan8> peru__: that's not going to happen
#979 [10:52] <peru__> too bad for both us and Notch then
#980 [10:52] <ConMan8> Why Notch?
#981 [10:52] <peru__> many people have this problem
#982 [10:53] <mbentley> what is the big deal? you could always just use the .jar and create a shortcut...
#983 [10:53] <ConMan8> and.. many people have many problems.. doesn't mean they get fixed
#984 [10:53] <peru__> thats what im doing right now
#985 [10:54] <ConMan8> Is there anything wrong with that?
#986 [10:55] <peru__> it puts people off
#987 [10:55] <peru__> less money for Notch :]
#988 [10:55] <mbentley> not really...
#989 [10:55] <mbentley> and you don't need to use a batch file if you are creating a windows shortcut
#990 [10:56] <mbentley> well, are you talking about the server or client?
#991 [10:56] <josias> mbentley: this is the exceptoin that is thrown if i use only the extern VGA: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/399726/
#992 [10:56] <peru__> when full version comes out (no longer beta) you kind of expect it to be stable and rid of such errors
#993 [10:57] <mbentley> peru__: what 'errors' are you talking about?
#994 [10:57] <mbentley> xrandr... hmm
#995 [10:57] <peru__> that exe will not run
#996 [10:57] <peru__> that you have to download jar and create shortcut for it
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#998 [10:58] <mbentley> still don't know what error you are talking about where you HAVE you use the jar and whether it is for the client or server
#999 [10:58] <josias> peru__: that is not a so huge barrier for useres, isnt it?
#1000 [10:58] <mbentley> josias: it is definitely getting 'confused' about the screens
#1001 [10:59] <peru__> it is if they dont know such solution exists
#1002 [11:01] <josias> if i get an *.jar i donwnload it and can doubleclick to start it... i dont know why that doesn't work at your version of windows but at my girlfriends PC it works...
#1003 [11:03] <peru__> why it doesnt work? notch is too lazy to add error handling
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#1005 [11:04] <Rick> helli
#1006 [11:04] <Rick> hello
#1007 [11:04] <mbentley> peru__: what are you talking about?
#1008 [11:04] <Rick> anyone know what save-on really do?
#1009 [11:04] <peru__> look up what ive said for the last 10 minutes
#1010 [11:05] <mbentley> only thing i see is "Jan-24 10:51 < peru__> DAMN IT NOTCH, fix those downloadable exe on minecraft.net.. i still have to run game through mc.bat with memory adjustments"
#1011 [11:05] <mbentley> that still doesn't explain any 'error'
#1012 [11:06] <peru__> there is a solution to a problem, but only for those who look for it... why Notch cant put it inside that exe
#1013 [11:06] <Rick> let me rephrase, whats the best way to auto save in 1.2_01 server?
#1014 [11:07] <Rick> anyone?
#1015 [11:08] <mbentley> i just run a 'save-all'
#1016 [11:08] <Rick> ehh.. manually?
#1017 [11:09] <Rick> does save-on do anything to help?
#1018 [11:09] <xales> I don't think it has automatic saving...
#1019 [11:09] <xales> I think that is a mod thing
#1020 [11:10] <Rick> no hmod or plugins with this version huh? or bukket?
#1021 [11:10] <xales> you could try bukkit or something like simpleserver wrapper
#1022 [11:10] <Rick> i dont know how they expect u to run a server with no autosave
#1023 [11:11] <mbentley> save-on should enable saving but it doesn't save the entire world at specific intervals
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#1025 [11:11] <Rick> what does it do then?
#1026 [11:12] <Rick> also do you have to save-all before u stop a server?
#1027 [11:13] <mbentley> Rick: no, you don't. it will do so when you gracefully stop it using 'stop'
#1028 [11:13] <lukegb> Rick: nope
#1029 [11:13] <mbentley> if you end the process, it won't save though
#1030 [11:13] <Rick> so save-all helps when it was force close?
#1031 [11:13] <Rick> if so what does save-on help with?
#1032 [11:14] <xales> save-on enables saving.
#1033 [11:14] <Rick> so u can use save-all? is it required to use save-all?
#1034 [11:15] <mbentley> no, it isn't required for save-all
#1035 [11:15] <mbentley> i have a cron job that runs save-all and backs up my world on my linux box
#1036 [11:15] <Rick> so it enables saving but doest save automatically?
#1037 [11:15] <Rick> doesnt make sense to me
#1038 [11:16] <lukegb> mbentley: you do remember to save-off and save-on, don't you? :P
#1039 [11:16] <mbentley> of course
#1040 [11:16] <mbentley> it is like save-on only saves parts of the map. not sure how it decides to do it though
#1041 [11:17] <xales> Rick: As with virtually every server software, you would just use a cronjob or similar to save and backup
#1042 [11:17] <Rick> is there a windows command prompt commands for autosave?
#1043 [11:17] <xales> lol...windows command prompt... =/
#1044 [11:17] <mbentley> not sure if there is a way to inject commands into the console, don't think so though
#1045 [11:17] <Rick> :)
#1046 [11:17] <lukegb> mbentley: sendkey!
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#1048 [11:18] <xDry_Paintx> hai
#1049 [11:18] <Rick> any windows way of autosaving?
#1050 [11:18] <Rick> using built in windows functions?
#1051 [11:18] <xales> Rick: Unknown. Generally running servers on Windows is a bad idea.
#1052 [11:18] <xales> There is a good reason why people don't do it
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#1054 [11:18] <lukegb> You could use an autoit or autohotkey script
#1055 [11:18] <Rick> i've only use microsoft
#1056 [11:18] <Rick> all os's including servers
#1057 [11:19] <Rick> hmm
#1058 [11:19] <xales> Running server at home on a workstation is also a bad idea...just sayin
#1059 [11:19] <mbentley> running a server on windows would be a good reason for finding a good server wrapper that did that
#1060 [11:19] <Rick> :) i use raid 1 and windows 08 r2 virtuals
#1061 [11:20] <xales> Windows is still garbage for running any sort of server
#1062 [11:20] <Rick> :) windows hater
#1063 [11:20] <xDry_Paintx> is that because of security?
#1064 [11:20] <mbentley> among other reasons
#1065 [11:20] <Rick> im no good with linux so im stuck with windows
#1066 [11:20] <xales> I dislike Windows due to facts that show it is slow, insecure, and lacks features.
#1067 [11:20] <lukegb> xDry_Paintx: let's try it-has-a-GUI-that's-always-running
#1068 [11:21] <xales> lukegb: for starters
#1069 [11:21] <lukegb> And has Internet Explorer installed by default
#1070 [11:21] <xales> and NTFS...and a kernel that shouldn't even exist...
#1071 [11:21] <mbentley> i hate windows updates that insist on requiring a restart
#1072 [11:21] <xales> and utter lack of innovation...
#1073 [11:21] <xales> etc etc etc
#1074 [11:21] <lukegb> mbentley: inmemory kernel patching ftw :D
#1075 [11:21] <Rick> u could always turn off
#1076 [11:21] <lukegb> Heh /dev/kmem
#1077 [11:21] <Rick> all the default crap
#1078 [11:22] <xDry_Paintx> well i'll look into converting os
#1079 [11:22] <lukegb> Rick: I'd like to watch you uninstall the GUI
#1080 [11:22] <Rick> and go back to dos? :)
#1081 [11:22] <xDry_Paintx> i'm having difficulties with a particular plugin
#1082 [11:22] <xDry_Paintx> but i'm not sure this is the place to ask...
#1083 [11:22] <mbentley> core installs are a joke
#1084 [11:23] <lukegb> Rick: err, yes, pretty much. But with a useful command set. You know, like bash?
#1085 [11:23] <lukegb> Oh, and decent scripting support.
#1086 [11:23] <Rick> well i like all the pretty icons and buttons?
#1087 [11:24] <xales> Which is the reason its bad. Also, I can't speak to them being pretty...
#1088 [11:24] <Rick> well microsoft keeps me employed thanks to it messing up all the time. :)
#1089 [11:24] <xales> I actually was pissed the other day because the Windows theme looks so shitty with the awesome background I found
#1090 [11:24] <xales> one of the reasons I am no longer using Windows on my gaming PC
#1091 [11:24] <xDry_Paintx> i open this config.yml in notepad and it all appears on 1 line
#1092 [11:24] <xDry_Paintx> what am i doing wrong?
#1093 [11:25] <xales> Notepad sucks, don't use it?
#1094 [11:25] <xales> that is why
#1095 [11:25] <xales> :)
#1096 [11:25] <Rick> :)
#1097 [11:25] <xDry_Paintx> what's an alternative?
#1098 [11:25] <xales> notepad++
#1099 [11:25] <Rick> yeah xales
#1100 [11:25] <xDry_Paintx> i'm pretty much a complete noob at this stuff
#1101 [11:25] <Rick> ive never used notepad++
#1102 [11:25] <mbentley> <3 notepad++
#1103 [11:25] <Rick> nver really needed to
#1104 [11:26] <Rick> any good examples of y use it?
#1105 [11:26] <mbentley> it has tabs
#1106 [11:26] <xales> Rick: When you are a child, you learn to use the computer by looking at the pictures. When you grow up, you learn to read and write. Time to grow up!
#1107 [11:26] <mbentley> syntax highlighting
#1108 [11:26] <lukegb> xDry_Paintx: if you *have* to use default windows tools
#1109 [11:26] <lukegb> xDry_Paintx: then use Wordpad
#1110 [11:26] <xales> lukegb: cmd.exe -> edit.exe :D
#1111 [11:26] <xDry_Paintx> oh i don't, i'm running off my home pc
#1112 [11:26] <lukegb> Heh, k
#1113 [11:26] <Rick> so do only use linux xales?
#1114 [11:27] <xales> Rick: I have no need for anything else
#1115 [11:27] <Rick> do u run virtual servers?
#1116 [11:27] <xDry_Paintx> but it's only really hosted for me, brother and a couple of others
#1117 [11:27] <xales> Rick: I have no need to
#1118 [11:27] <xales> xDry_Paintx: Just use notepad++
#1119 [11:27] <xales> :)
#1120 [11:28] <xDry_Paintx> it's already installing :)
#1121 [11:28] <xales> also, lol Mibbit, Rick.
#1122 [11:28] <Rick> it was firefox default i guess
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#1124 [11:28] <lukegb> Rick: why virtual servers?
#1125 [11:28] <Kealper> O.o
#1126 [11:29] <Rick> run multiple servers on 1 box
#1127 [11:29] <xales> Rick: lrn2irc?
#1128 [11:29] <lukegb> Rick: yeah, I don't get it.
#1129 [11:29] <lukegb> Linux is better at it than Windows.
#1130 [11:29] <Rick> as far as?
#1131 [11:29] <xales> Significantly better at virtulization, actually
#1132 [11:29] <Kealper> everything?
#1133 [11:29] <lukegb> As far as everything
#1134 [11:29] <xales> and just about everything else
#1135 [11:29] <lukegb> It can virtualise Windows too
#1136 [11:29] <Rick> :)
#1137 [11:29] <xDry_Paintx> oh wow
#1138 [11:30] <xDry_Paintx> that is soo much better
#1139 [11:30] <xales> lukegb: Not that you would want to... =\
#1140 [11:30] <lukegb> Even in Xen :P
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#1142 [11:30] <lukegb> I really want to try Xening Windows
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#1144 [11:30] <Kealper> windows is garbage at being anything more than a home server :/
#1145 [11:30] <Rick> man, i know nothing about linux
#1146 [11:31] <Rick> dude i manage servers for business than run nothing than microsoft so not true
#1147 [11:31] <lukegb> Rick: learn! I did :)
#1148 [11:31] <xolotl> Kealper: Naw, server-grade Windows is actually quite good nowadays (I am speaking as a Loonix person myself)
#1149 [11:31] <xales> Kealper: Even that. I ran a home server off a Celeron D with 512mb ram, running apache+mysql and it worked perfectly fine.
#1150 [11:31] <xales> xolotl: Better, but still, Linux does it better.
#1151 [11:32] <Kealper> linux is far better suited for enterprise serving than windows
#1152 [11:32] <xolotl> xales: As I say, I'm still a Linux guy so that's where my loyalties lie. I haven't had cause to disparage Windows servers for some time, though.
#1153 [11:32] <xolotl> Microsoft finally figured out how to make a decent server platform over the past 10 years or so
#1154 [11:32] <Kealper> yes, you can (and people do) use windows in large stuff, but linux is better
#1155 [11:32] <mbentley> windows will always have it's place...
#1156 [11:32] <lukegb> xolotl: they come with a built in GUI is enough :/
#1157 [11:33] <xolotl> If only Linux could make the same strides in the desktop market. Alas!
#1158 [11:33] <Kealper> but i do have to agree, windows 7 and windows server 2008 r2 are so much better than the previous releases in their respective catagories
#1159 [11:33] <Rick> for somebody that know windows pretty well, how long will it take to learn linux?
#1160 [11:33] <mbentley> depends, really
#1161 [11:33] <Rick> yeah i use both
#1162 [11:33] <Rick> 7 and 08 r2
#1163 [11:34] <mbentley> i just had to install server 2008 sp2 and it sucks compared to r2
#1164 [11:34] <Rick> :) all i know about linux is more typer less clicking :)
#1165 [11:34] <Kealper> although i'm actually using a copy of windows 7 that has been pimped to act just like 2008 r2 on my home server lol
#1166 [11:34] <xDry_Paintx> does notepad++ auto save?
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#1168 [11:34] <xDry_Paintx> it won't let me select file -> save
#1169 [11:34] <Kealper> not be default
#1170 [11:34] <mbentley> xDry_Paintx: have you made any changes?
#1171 [11:34] <xDry_Paintx> yup
#1172 [11:35] <mbentley> file read-only?
#1173 [11:35] <xDry_Paintx> don't think so...
#1174 [11:35] <xDry_Paintx> bioe
#1175 [11:35] <xales> Rick: http://linuxcommand.org/
#1176 [11:35] <xDry_Paintx> nope*
#1177 [11:35] <Rick> i still need to figure out how to auto save minecraft server 1.2_01 in windows
#1178 [11:35] <Kealper> a wrapper program
#1179 [11:36] <Kealper> assuming you mean issue a "save-all" every so often
#1180 [11:36] <Rick> correct
#1181 [11:36] <Rick> wrapper?
#1182 [11:36] <Kealper> a program that "wraps" itself around the server process
#1183 [11:37] <Rick> hmm never heard of that or used it
#1184 [11:37] <xDry_Paintx> ahh
#1185 [11:37] <Kealper> basically takes control of the STDIO for the mc server, allowing it to see what is going on, and issue commands like a normal user would into the console
#1186 [11:37] <xales> lukegb: How goes bucket dev?
#1187 [11:37] <ChauffeR> hc,tu7k,cdr76d565
#1188 [11:37] <xales> Kealper: STDIO doesn't get capped, you write it as stdio
#1189 [11:37] <xDry_Paintx> i'm getting errors now
#1190 [11:38] <Kealper> xales: dumbing down explanation to someone who i assume does not do programming of any kind
#1191 [11:38] <Rick> yes
#1192 [11:38] <Rick> exactly
#1193 [11:38] <xales> Kealper: some thing cap it because you use the macro STDIO_FILENO when you want to do low level read/writes
#1194 [11:38] <xales> Kealper: But in normal conversation, it is proper to keep it all lowercase :P
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#1196 [11:38] <ChauffeR> 65rujujhuuh7by
#1197 [11:39] <Kealper> ChauffeR: stop spamming usless crap before i kick you for spamming useless crap
#1198 [11:39] <ChauffeR> 7jbhwuhuho
#1199 [11:39] <Kealper> i had it in caps because it's an acronym lol
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#1202 [11:39] * Kealper kicked ChauffeR from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: ChauffeR)
#1203 [11:40] <Rick> he got kicked
#1204 [11:40] <Kealper> and banned
#1205 [11:40] <Rick> ooo
#1206 [11:40] <Rick> any free wrapper apps?
#1207 [11:40] <Rick> opensource?
#1208 [11:40] <Kealper> i didn't say this, but google McMyAdmin
#1209 [11:41] <Kealper> it's not opensource, but it works well, and it gives you a web interface for your server
#1210 [11:41] <Rick> oo web interface
#1211 [11:41] <Rick> nice
#1212 [11:41] <Rick> am i allowed to say torrent? :)
#1213 [11:41] <Kealper> only downside to using the free version is that it says in chat every like 30 min that you are running McMyMadmin
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#1215 [11:42] <Kealper> torrents are not banned, only illegal stuff is
#1216 [11:42] <Kealper> torrents are used in a lot of legit things :/
#1217 [11:42] <Rick> yeah... exactly... legit :)
#1218 [11:43] <lukegb> Kealper: nuu, leave it banned
#1219 [11:43] <lukegb> Free BNCs are bad karma
#1220 [11:43] <Kealper> it fills the banlist -.-
#1221 [11:43] <lukegb> Kealper: ban *!*@* :D
#1222 [11:44] <Kealper> lol
#1223 [11:44] <Rick> time to test this mcmyadmin
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#1225 [11:44] <xales> Kealper: banlist on this network is large enough...
#1226 [11:44] <lukegb> Or use /cs akick if you can :P
#1227 [11:44] <lukegb> Or get a banlist bot
#1228 [11:44] <Hachune-Miku> I have some issues allocating more than 2gb of memory to a minecraft server on linux. Any ideas?
#1229 [11:44] <Rick> is that by ip or nickname?
#1230 [11:45] <Kealper> was just looking at akick, not sure if it's available to AOPs or not
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#1232 [11:45] <xales> Only SOP, ask TW to fix it
#1233 [11:45] <Kealper> ugh
#1234 [11:45] <xales> he got Notch to fix it for #minecraft
#1235 [11:45] <xales> guess he forgot this channel
#1236 [11:46] <xDry_Paintx> so, i added a few lines to this config.yml in the same format as was already written but it's giving me errors
#1237 [11:46] <xDry_Paintx> also, should the lines i added be in red?
#1238 [11:46] <Chris92> Is there any way to check the status of a gift code purchase? I purchased one 36 hours ago and my card was charged right away but I haven't seen an e-mail or update on my profile page.
#1239 [11:46] <Kealper> right then....afk for a few hours
#1240 [11:47] <xales> Chris92: It is nearly done being fixed, some issues relating to the server move
#1241 [11:47] <xales> they are starting to be sent out now though
#1242 [11:47] <Kealper> i'll leave that on there so i don't forget about it lol
#1243 [11:47] <Chris92> Xales: thanks for the update, that's all I needed to know. I will wait.
#1244 [11:48] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper
#1244 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> What's up?
#1245 [11:48] <xDry_Paintx> well it looks like nobody wants to help me with this
#1246 [11:48] <xales> xDry_Paintx: We don't really support mods, sorry =/
#1247 [11:48] <xDry_Paintx> ah i see
#1248 [11:49] <xDry_Paintx> know where does?
#1249 [11:49] <Postoffice> the forum?
#1250 [11:49] <xales> ^
#1251 [11:49] <xDry_Paintx> i don't like forums, takes too long for a reply
#1252 [11:49] <xDry_Paintx> but thanks anyway
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#1254 [11:51] <Postoffice> pantience, cant live without it :p
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#1256 [11:54] <Rick> this mcmyadmin is looking pretty good
#1257 [11:56] <Hachune-Miku> Wasn't that made by a developer who liked backdoors, or am I remembering something else
#1258 [11:57] <xales> That was Mcadmin
#1259 [11:57] <xales> similar name, different software
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#1262 [12:04] <xDry_Paintx> if i move to the end of a line and press enter in notepad++ will it tab to the appropriate place?
#1263 [12:04] <xDry_Paintx> as opposed to using spaces
#1264 [12:04] <xales> It uses tab, but you can disable that or change it to use spaces.
#1265 [12:04] <xDry_Paintx> how?
#1266 [12:05] <xales> options menu?
#1267 [12:05] <mbentley> look in the settings, could always google it
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#1269 [12:05] <xDry_Paintx> ah i think i've found it
#1270 [12:05] <xDry_Paintx> i want to select tab to space right?
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#1274 [12:08] <ZaraXVI> uhuh
#1275 [12:09] <xDry_Paintx> hmm... it looks like that wasn't the solution to my problem
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#1277 [12:09] <ZaraXVI> a ghast shot a fireball and it closed the portal
#1278 [12:09] <ZaraXVI> and i don't have fire and flint on me
#1279 [12:09] <ZaraXVI> how can i leave the nether ?
#1280 [12:09] <xales> Jump into some lava
#1281 [12:10] <ZaraXVI> :(
#1282 [12:10] <peru__> exit minecraft, load your backup
#1283 [12:10] <ZaraXVI> i don't have a backup
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#1285 [12:11] <peru__> o_0 you should
#1286 [12:11] <Smargoos> greyvulpine
#1287 [12:11] <Smargoos> how can i get pvp of the server?
#1288 [12:11] <Smargoos> off
#1289 [12:11] <xolotl> ZaraXVI: Apparently if you can get a ghast to shoot another fireball at the closed portal, it'll re-light
#1290 [12:11] <SkiingPenguins> there is a setting in server properties
#1291 [12:11] <xolotl> tricky to pull off though
#1292 [12:12] <xDry_Paintx> isn't level.dat_old a backup?
#1293 [12:12] <xales> xDry_Paintx: Nope
#1294 [12:12] <xDry_Paintx> what is it then?
#1295 [12:12] <xales> Smargoos: set pvp=false in the server.properties
#1296 [12:12] <Smargoos> where?
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#1298 [12:13] <ZaraXVI> oh ok
#1299 [12:14] <ZaraXVI> gonna try to relight
#1300 [12:15] <xales> Smargoos: In server.properties...
#1301 [12:15] <Smargoos> server-ip= why there isnt my ip at server properties is it meant to be so?
#1302 [12:15] <Smargoos> now got it to false
#1303 [12:15] <Smargoos> that pvp
#1304 [12:16] <SkiingPenguins> server-ip <-- dont set that unless you have more than one network card
#1305 [12:16] <xales> Which you do not
#1306 [12:16] <Smargoos> what that hellworld means?
#1307 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Transforms your world into the nether
#1308 [12:18] <TheReddeH> yellow!
#1309 [12:18] <Hachune-Miku> Transform isn't the right term. Simulate would be better since it doesn't change anything thats already there.
#1310 [12:18] <xolotl> Smargoos: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
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#1312 [12:19] <TheReddeH> transform < simulate < generate
#1313 [12:20] <TheReddeH> actually simulate < transform < generate ;p
#1314 [12:20] <SkiingPenguins> ...
#1315 [12:20] <TheReddeH> ... < *
#1316 [12:20] <peru__> ... < * ( )
#1317 [12:21] <xDry_Paintx> ... < * ( . Y . )
#1318 [12:21] <TheReddeH> <°)))))><
#1319 [12:21] <xDry_Paintx> ( > ")>
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#1321 [12:22] <TheReddeH> whathave i done :(
#1322 [12:22] <xDry_Paintx> lol
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#1324 [12:22] <ZaraXVI> oh you can push ghast fireballs with arrows
#1325 [12:22] <TheReddeH> TheReddeH: killing conversations since 1982
#1326 [12:23] <xDry_Paintx> you're old
#1327 [12:23] <TheReddeH> define old
#1328 [12:23] <xDry_Paintx> well, almost old
#1329 [12:23] <xDry_Paintx> well i'm 10 years younger...
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#1331 [12:23] <TheReddeH> awww thats so cuuuttteee coochiecoooo
#1332 [12:23] <TheReddeH> :)
#1333 [12:24] <xDry_Paintx> that's kinda creepy
#1334 [12:24] <xDry_Paintx> you do that to all 19 yo's?
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#1336 [12:24] <TheReddeH> only if i hate them to scare em off
#1337 [12:24] <ZaraXVI> blah
#1338 [12:24] <ZaraXVI> frozen again
#1339 [12:25] <xDry_Paintx> does that mean you hate me? :(
#1340 [12:25] <TheReddeH> apparently
#1341 [12:25] <xDry_Paintx> ah well, more for the list
#1342 [12:25] <TheReddeH> what list :o
#1343 [12:26] <xDry_Paintx> the huge triple figure list of people that hate me
#1344 [12:26] <xDry_Paintx> figurative list that is
#1345 [12:26] <TheReddeH> ahh
#1346 [12:26] <Jose_Jalapeno> mollstam any idea when the credit card purchases are available again?
#1347 [12:27] <xales> Should work now I think...
#1348 [12:27] <xales> not sure
#1349 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Give him some time to work on it
#1350 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Last we heard, he had to make a call to the provider
#1351 [12:28] <xDry_Paintx> so this mcmyadmin...
#1352 [12:28] <xDry_Paintx> would the motd on that overwrite the motd i've already got?
#1353 [12:28] <xDry_Paintx> and other stuff like that
#1354 [12:29] <SkiingPenguins> just retype it
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#1361 [12:43] * Steampoweredcat dances
#1361 [12:44] <xDry_Paintx> what is an MD5 hash?
#1362 [12:45] <Steampoweredcat> wikipedia!
#1363 [12:45] <xales> xDry_Paintx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5
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#1368 [12:58] <aetherian> is there a way to allow mc to use more... stuff? like, it will be a little choppy, but I still have a jolly good amount of RAM left over
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#1370 [13:00] <Aygar> My windows minecraft client freezes after about 10 minutes; Is there any verbosity options for the client to provided a more helpful bug report then 'My Minecraft client freezes after 10 minutes.'
#1371 [13:01] <aetherian> not unless it crashes
#1372 [13:03] <Aygar> oh
#1373 [13:03] <mbentley> does your window just go black Aygar ?
#1374 [13:05] <Aygar> nope. Stops updating the window
#1375 [13:05] <Aygar> *redrawing the window
#1376 [13:06] <Aygar> I can alt-tab to another program, but the minecraft client does not release the mouse.
#1377 [13:08] <Aygar> The cursor appears but will not leave the region of the minecraft client window.
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#1379 [13:13] <xDry_Paintx> how do i select the where the server files are with mcmyadmin?
#1380 [13:13] <DANSAO> hey!
#1381 [13:13] <peru__> konnichiwa
#1382 [13:13] <DANSAO> anyone know why my portal isnt working
#1383 [13:13] <xDry_Paintx> kon'banwa
#1384 [13:14] <DANSAO> hello??
#1385 [13:14] <DANSAO> wanna join my server
#1386 [13:14] <SkiingPenguins> portals dont work in servers yet
#1387 [13:15] <DANSAO> damn it!!
#1388 [13:15] <DANSAO> after all that!
#1389 [13:15] <SkiingPenguins> yall peeps need patience ^.^
#1390 [13:16] <DANSAO> you know how long to took to mine that stuff
#1391 [13:16] <SkiingPenguins> you could have just used buckets of lava
#1392 [13:16] <xolotl> 15sec * 10blocks = 150 seconds?
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#1394 [13:16] <xolotl> Doesn't seem too onerous. :)
#1395 [13:17] <DANSAO> anyone wanna joing my awesome server and help my build a sky city/
#1396 [13:17] <DANSAO> ?*
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#1398 [13:19] <DANSAO> no one?
#1399 [13:19] <feenyx> try in #smp
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#1402 [13:25] <michaellanci> Has anyone ran into trouble with wiring on MULTIPLAYER with double doors double levers?
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#1404 [13:26] <Reldefo> Hey I was the michael kid, Just had to change my name.
#1405 [13:26] <Reldefo> Did anyone have an answer
#1406 [13:28] <Valor54> Any one know how im suppose to contact the billing for this game? Tried 2 emails already for 5 days now and got no reply. The website didn't load properly and timed out when i bought the game so i redid the billing page. ended up getting billed 2x. Seriously thinking charge back is the only option when they ignore emails
#1407 [13:29] <SkiingPenguins> charge back and wait a week, they are having a few issues
#1408 [13:30] <feenyx> Valor54: the whole server migration thing has caused quite a backlog of issues. If you have a receipt from paypal, and have sent them an email with the details, they will sort it out eventually.
#1409 [13:31] <Valor54> Feenyx, it was by CC and i never recieved a receipt of the transfer. Only the double emails i got in a row were the reason i knew it went through later that day. I was even able to play the game for hours after i made the purchase.
#1410 [13:32] <feenyx> in that case, it's very odd that you shouldn't be able to play now, unless they did a rollback of active accounts
#1411 [13:32] <feenyx> but I haven't heard anything to indicate they did
#1412 [13:33] <feenyx> what's your mc username?
#1413 [13:33] <Valor54> I got to play
#1414 [13:33] <Valor54> It was hours after the purchase tho
#1415 [13:34] <Valor54> THe emails came from my bank as the usual warnings of out of country purchase made (foreign currency)
#1416 [13:34] <feenyx> I see
#1417 [13:34] <feenyx> so what happens if you try to login to play now?
#1418 [13:35] <Valor54> All i was asking in the emails is that one of the purchase would be refunded. but the emails go unread
#1419 [13:35] <feenyx> probably just unread as of yet. I'm thinking they probably have a backlog of 20k emails, easily
#1420 [13:35] <Valor54> I havent played today, ill try now
#1421 [13:35] <feenyx> all dealing with account issues
#1422 [13:36] <Valor54> Emails date back about 5 days now
#1423 [13:36] <Valor54> I can still log in no problem
#1424 [13:36] <feenyx> infact, we should to try to obtain such a number from Mojang. if for nothing else than to give people an idea about time stuff is taking, and why
#1425 [13:37] <feenyx> Kealper: any idea about current backlog size?
#1426 [13:39] <Valor54> I sent the emails to payment email, I wouldn't think that would be backlog much?
#1427 [13:39] <SkiingPenguins> well the servers have been pretty messed up
#1428 [13:42] <feenyx> there have been payment issues since some time before christmas, most of it due to overloaded servers
#1429 [13:42] <feenyx> that problem was just fixed these last couple of days (hopefully)
#1430 [13:43] <Valor54> Getting billed twice still sucks and then no reply sucks even more. Definitely not a happy camper here
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#1432 [13:44] <feenyx> I'd say just enjoy the game for now, give the whole payment issue another week for them to catch up. They should atleast be able to dispatch the queries faster than the system causes them, now, which helps immensely
#1433 [13:47] <Valor54> At most i'll give them till Wednesday at which ill have to talk to my bank about charging back
#1434 [13:48] <Valor54> Thanks for the help. I'll be leaving now. Have a good day.
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#1436 [13:50] <Steampoweredcat> so how do i mine for fish?
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#1438 [13:51] <onix> hi peoples, does any1 knows a good rpg server that is located in europe??
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#1441 [13:53] <Ripple> Alright, I ordered a gift code approx 40 hours ago, and have zero confirmation thereof. any advice?
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#1443 [13:55] <Ripple> none?
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#1446 [13:56] <guacamole> HI
#1447 [13:57] <guacamole> when can we change our skin?
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#1450 [13:57] <Ripple> So anyone know what to do if I haven't received confirmation of a gift code purchase in 40 hours?
#1451 [13:58] <guacamole> when can we change our skin?
#1452 [13:58] <LordEddi> Ripple: Checked under "Profile" on the webpage?
#1453 [13:58] <Ripple> nothing obvious
#1454 [13:58] <hJulvort> where can i find a nice city world to download?
#1455 [13:59] <Ripple> it does however have a link to "buy MORE gift codes"
#1456 [13:59] <xDry_Paintx> hJulvort: have you tried google?
#1457 [13:59] <Ripple> which, presumably is worded as such because of my earlier purchase
#1458 [14:00] <xDry_Paintx> Ripple: they seem to be having alot of issues with those recently
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#1460 [14:01] <hJulvort> xDry_paintx: no, have you?
#1461 [14:01] <xDry_Paintx> something to do with a server move
#1462 [14:01] <xDry_Paintx> nope
#1463 [14:01] <BarryCarlyon> GLT all.
#1464 [14:01] <Ripple> I assumed so. should I wait until the move is completed before worrying?
#1465 [14:02] <xDry_Paintx> i would
#1466 [14:03] <Ripple> alright. any word on when that will be?
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#1468 [14:06] <TheReddeH> early 2012
#1469 [14:07] <hJulvort> anyone know whats wrong when it says this when your trying to connect to server: Connection lost: malformed input around byte 6
#1470 [14:10] <Ripple> Also, anyone know what the progress is on the terrain flip bug that affects terrain borders?
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#1472 [14:14] <Voigt> Hi, I have a question/problem: I downloaded and bought Minecraft. But after I played for 5min on Singleplayer the game crashes.
#1473 [14:14] <Voigt> Then the map is in it's original state, but I have still my items
#1474 [14:14] <Voigt> there is only a Windows error report, that Java doesn't work anymore.
#1475 [14:15] <Voigt> Is this problem known?
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#1478 [14:26] <xales> hJulvort: Means the server needs to be updated
#1479 [14:26] <hJulvort> thanks!
#1480 [14:26] <xales> Voigt: No - if you can give the error report, I may be able to tell you the issue
#1481 [14:27] <Voigt> i will make a screen
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#1485 [14:37] <frogmella> Hello my brother bought minecraft gift codes last week but he has nothing get it
#1486 [14:38] <frogmella> Hello my brother bought minecraft gift codes last week but he has nothing get it
#1487 [14:38] <frogmella> Hello my brother bought minecraft gift codes last week but he has nothing get it
#1488 [14:38] <frogmella> Hello my brother bought minecraft gift codes last week but he has nothing get it
#1489 [14:38] <frogmella> Hello my brother bought minecraft gift codes last week but he has nothing get it
#1490 [14:38] <frogmella> Hello my brother bought minecraft gift codes last week but he has nothing get it
#1491 [14:38] <frogmella> Hello my brother bought minecraft gift codes last week but he has nothing get it
#1492 [14:38] <frogmella> Hello my brother bought minecraft gift codes last week but he has nothing get it
#1493 [14:39] <SkiingPenguins> shut the fuck up
#1494 [14:40] <SkiingPenguins> there has been server issues lately, mojang is working on it.
#1495 [14:40] * peru__ estimates frogmella's IQ at 80
#1495 [14:40] * SkiingPenguins thinks its a 12 year old
#1495 [14:41] <mbentley> spamming: always a great idea
#1496 [14:41] <frogmella> thanks :D
#1497 [14:42] <frogmella> yeh sry
#1498 [14:42] <frogmella> how long it will take
#1499 [14:43] <frogmella> how long it will take ?
#1500 [14:44] <frogmella> why ask me nobody
#1501 [14:44] <fogwraith> Have patience
#1502 [14:44] <frogmella> ok
#1503 [14:44] <lemon-rev> frogmella just wait in hre untill you find out, and maybe just ask once in a while do not spam the channel otherwise you might get a ban
#1504 [14:44] <frogmella> but i have not patience ^^
#1505 [14:44] <lemon-rev> hm,
#1506 [14:45] <lemon-rev> no spamming
#1507 [14:45] <lemon-rev> lol
#1508 [14:45] <frogmella> yes i haven't nothing do
#1509 [14:45] <lemon-rev> just keep also checking your email
#1510 [14:45] <lemon-rev> that might also help
#1511 [14:46] <lemon-rev> well get something else to do theres shit loads of crap out there internet wise
#1512 [14:46] <mbentley> you brother check his account at minecraft.net to see if the codes are listed there?
#1513 [14:46] * lemon-rev its like telling a child im not taking it out for fun
#1513 [14:46] <mbentley> *your brother
#1514 [14:47] <frogmella> he check his e-mails
#1515 [14:47] <frogmella> about thunderbird
#1516 [14:48] <frogmella> someone has a code he wants to give me?
#1517 [14:48] <xales> haha..no
#1518 [14:48] <frogmella> pity
#1519 [14:49] <xales> you just have to wait
#1520 [14:49] <frogmella> no
#1521 [14:49] <mbentley> he should check http://www.minecraft.net/skin/ to see if the gift codes are listed there
#1522 [14:50] <frogmella> he still gets an e-mail?
#1523 [14:52] <mbentley> yes, he should still get an email but if the gift codes have been made available and the email for some reason or another didn't go through, they will still be listed online.
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#1525 [14:53] <xales> mbentley: Emails will go through eventually is what I have been told
#1526 [14:53] <xales> but the code should appear in their profile
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#1528 [14:53] <frogmella> he bought the code last week -.-
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#1530 [14:53] <xales> you still need to wait
#1531 [14:54] <mbentley> frogmella: then he may be able to see it online
#1532 [14:55] <frogmella> So the code is faster on his profile as he gets an e-mail?
#1533 [14:55] <xales> No. Emails are broken right now. It may be on his profile page before he gets an email
#1534 [14:55] <frogmella> ok
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#1541 [15:14] <Mathuin> Okay, Minecraft just crashed on a custom map for me. java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: -128 at ib.d (SourceFile.130) -- does that mean anything to anyone here? It might be my map. Wouldn't surprise me a bit.
#1542 [15:14] <LordEddi> Hm, 1.2_01 still the newest server version?
#1543 [15:14] <xales> Probably the map
#1544 [15:14] <xales> LordEddi: Yup
#1545 [15:14] <LordEddi> Aight, cool
#1546 [15:15] <Mathuin> xales: how do I debug it? What array went crazy?
#1547 [15:15] <xales> Mathuin: Can't
#1548 [15:15] <Mathuin> Okay, that's a truly unfortunate answer. Are you *sure* there's nothing I can do?
#1549 [15:15] <xales> Sadly, not much.
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#1551 [15:18] <Mathuin> Hopefully someone who is familiar with the source can point me in the right direction.
#1552 [15:18] <SkiingPenguins> uh its not available
#1553 [15:18] <SkiingPenguins> 'least thats what ive heard/seen
#1554 [15:18] <Mathuin> Not to you or me or xales. I'm hoping for an employee.
#1555 [15:19] <xales> Mathuin: They won't, unfortunately, as it is closed source. It would require a lot of time to find out the exact problem even if they bothered to look.
#1556 [15:19] <Mathuin> xales: I don't expect them to show me the source.
#1557 [15:19] <Mathuin> I figured it might be a common error.
#1558 [15:19] <Mathuin> "Oh, that's where you made a map that went too far down." or something.
#1559 [15:20] <xales> Mathuin: Not common, unfortunately
#1560 [15:20] <dopeghoti> Mathuin: the point being, time spent on that is time spent not doing the job for which they are paid.
#1561 [15:20] <dopeghoti> see also: me typing this.
#1562 [15:20] <Mathuin> dopeghoti: Eh, I've worked for places where part of my job was talking to people who broke stuff instead of writing new stuff. That's a sketchy argument.
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#1563 [15:20] * SkiingPenguins goes back to terragen
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#1565 [15:24] <mib_fs81mr> !paid iuvenes
#1566 [15:24] <Mathuin> !paid mathuin
#1567 [15:24] <mib_fs81mr> hmm... i just paid for it <_<
#1568 [15:24] <SkiingPenguins> ... have you not noticed the servers are being fussy?
#1569 [15:24] <mib_fs81mr> yes
#1570 [15:25] <dopeghoti> Mathuin: The thing is, "custom maps" are made by tinkering in unsupported ways with the world data. Once there is a supported API for this, then your argument has a leg to stand on ("When I use your API to do this, it causes this crash.")
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#1572 [15:26] <feenyx> mib_fs81mr: "just" meaning in the last 10 minutes?
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#1574 [15:26] <mib_fs81mr> yes
#1575 [15:26] <feenyx> you may want to give it a little time to update
#1576 [15:26] <feenyx> like say half an hour
#1577 [15:26] <mib_fs81mr> i know
#1578 [15:26] <mib_fs81mr> i wil
#1579 [15:26] <feenyx> even with the new servers, I expect things aren't quite that instant
#1580 [15:26] <mib_fs81mr> i just checked
#1581 [15:29] <mib_fs81mr> i should get email right away?
#1582 [15:31] <feenyx> you may get the payment receipt immediately
#1583 [15:32] <feenyx> but the premium receipt from Mojang might take longer
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#1585 [15:34] <iuvenes> !paid iuvenes
#1586 [15:34] <iuvenes> yay :P
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#1588 [15:36] <Mathuin> I am reduced to running Techtonicus on my new map to see WTF is the problem. :-)
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#1590 [15:40] <tomekn> Hey i've got a problem with buying the game. I enter all my card details and pass my bank's security layer, but I am then greeted with a beautiful grey screen that says "Authentication Denied" Do you guys know how to go around this? I'd rather not use paypal.
#1591 [15:41] <Voigt> now the game crashed after 1 hour
#1592 [15:41] <Kealper> tomekn: you've got sufficient funds, and your bank allows you to buy internationally?
#1593 [15:42] <tomekn> Yep on both coutns.
#1594 [15:42] <tomekn> counts*
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#1596 [15:44] <Kealper> hmm...that is rather strange...i'd say check with your bank then, because i have not heard of a debit card (assuming that's what it is) being denied unless there was not enough to cover the cost
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#1598 [15:44] <Voigt> I bought the game yesterday from germay, and there were no problems
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#1600 [15:44] <Voigt> so may I was lucky ^^
#1601 [15:44] <KillSpammer> Herm...
#1602 [15:45] <TheReddeH> why would u buy it from germany :s
#1603 [15:45] <tomekn> yeah it's a rather strange issue.
#1604 [15:45] <TheReddeH> i bet they charge extra
#1605 [15:45] <tomekn> maybe he's from germany?
#1606 [15:45] <tomekn> :P
#1607 [15:45] <TheReddeH> nah that cant be it
#1608 [15:45] <tomekn> oh well
#1609 [15:46] <tomekn> i think it was a good enough guess tbh
#1610 [15:46] <TheReddeH> :)
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#1612 [15:47] <Voigt> stupid präpositions :)
#1613 [15:47] <Voigt> xales are you still there?
#1614 [15:48] <Mathuin> And I figured it out. Typo in my map generator.
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#1616 [15:49] <TheChrisHill> hello?
#1617 [15:49] <SkiingPenguins> hi
#1618 [15:49] <TheChrisHill> i know this may have been asked a thousand times...
#1619 [15:49] <SkiingPenguins> probably :)
#1620 [15:49] <TheChrisHill> what the heck is going on with minecraft.net and its servers?
#1621 [15:49] <SkiingPenguins> upgrading
#1622 [15:49] <TheReddeH> !recent
#1623 [15:50] <TheChrisHill> is it upgrading right now?
#1624 [15:50] <tomekn> could the payment hiccup be related to that? *hopeful*
#1625 [15:50] <tomekn> lol
#1626 [15:50] <SkiingPenguins> perhaps
#1627 [15:50] <TheReddeH> yeah it will bhe ready earlie 2012, no worries
#1628 [15:50] <tomekn> all good
#1629 [15:50] <TheChrisHill> i'm trying to run fcraft, and i'm getting a (500) Internal Server Error
#1630 [15:51] <TheChrisHill> it worked fine until i restared my computer
#1631 [15:51] <TheChrisHill> *restarted
#1632 [15:51] <SkiingPenguins> i dont use mods/external programs or anything like that, cant really help you with their issues
#1633 [15:52] <TheChrisHill> And why does the server list shuffle? Sometimes a server will be 4th from the top, and other times it won't even be on there
#1634 [15:53] <SkiingPenguins> perhaps the way it is sorted is changing?
#1635 [15:53] <TheChrisHill> i don't know.. but i really hope this whole server deal is sorted out
#1636 [15:53] <TheChrisHill> and i hope notch continues to support classic
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#1638 [15:54] <Voigt> Hi, I have a question/problem: I downloaded and bought Minecraft. But after I played for 5min on Singleplayer the game crashes. Then the map is in it's original state, but I have still my items. There is only a Windows error report, that Java doesn't work anymore.
#1639 [15:55] <Voigt> http://img841.imageshack.us/i/minecraftcrash.jpg/
#1640 [15:55] <Voigt> this is the screen of the error
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#1642 [15:57] <mbentley> i get a similar error when playing multiplayer occasionally where the game just freezes and eventually java crashes like that
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#1644 [15:59] <Mathuin> Voigt: I almost think you are running out of memory.
#1645 [16:00] <Mathuin> Alternatively, you could have a problem with your video card. I had very bad dust bunnies which caused my card to overheat and I had the same exact symptoms you describe.
#1646 [16:01] <Voigt> I have 4GB DDR3 Ram, 64GB Diskspace and a Nivdia 9600GT (with it I can play CoD7/BC2 in High Details..)
#1647 [16:02] <SkiingPenguins> and how many dust bunnies?
#1648 [16:03] <Voigt> I just cleaned her a week ago
#1649 [16:03] <Voigt> and when it would be the heat, the other games would also crash
#1650 [16:03] <Mathuin> I dont' play many other games these days. :_)
#1651 [16:05] <Voigt> But what is weird to me is: After the crash the map is in it's original state (so all digging holes and building are away), but I have still my inventory.
#1652 [16:05] <mbentley> inventory continually saves, the map saves when you hit ESC
#1653 [16:05] <Voigt> ahh
#1654 [16:05] <Voigt> this is bad
#1655 [16:06] <Voigt> so no ideas anymore?
#1656 [16:06] <Voigt> is there an offical support, where I can write an e-mail?
#1657 [16:07] <mbentley> support@mojang.com
#1658 [16:07] <mbentley> might take a long while for a response
#1659 [16:07] <SkiingPenguins> official support is pretty much overloaded with emails about the servers
#1660 [16:07] <mbentley> might have more luck on the bug tracker
#1661 [16:07] <mbentley> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#1662 [16:08] <Voigt> I can wait, I just startet playing Minecraft. I am not addicted yet. ^^
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#1664 [16:15] <Voigt> so I have sent an email
#1665 [16:15] <KingHush> Hey, I just bought Minecraft via the Dibs service on the website. How long does it take to update the account to premium?
#1666 [16:15] <Voigt> some seconds
#1667 [16:15] <Voigt> (for me)
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#1669 [16:15] <KingHush> Ffffffff. It's still giving me the "user must be premium" when I run Minecraft.
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#1671 [16:16] <Voigt> I think server are upgrading atm, so maybe this is buggy atm
#1672 [16:16] <wdgrgzh> my minecraft dont run is something with opengl mode help pls
#1673 [16:16] <Mathuin> It is certainly a volatile time for Minecraft at the moment.
#1674 [16:16] <KingHush> Alright, I'll just ride it out for a while then.
#1675 [16:16] <KingHush> Thanks.
#1676 [16:16] <KingHush> I'll try again later.
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#1678 [16:20] <mib_xxv99u> how do you start a sever?
#1679 [16:21] <Shadow386> magic
#1680 [16:21] <mib_xxv99u> thanks. your real helpful
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#1682 [16:22] <PrinceOfAustria> Guys
#1683 [16:22] <PrinceOfAustria> Our server host cant access minecraft.net
#1684 [16:22] <PrinceOfAustria> thus, we cant connect to his server
#1685 [16:22] <PrinceOfAustria> any idea why?
#1686 [16:23] <xales> Yeah, sorry
#1687 [16:24] <xales> I'm somewhat back now
#1688 [16:24] <PrinceOfAustria> i can connect to minecraft.net
#1689 [16:24] <PrinceOfAustria> so why cant the server host :/
#1690 [16:24] <xales> They need to update their DNS? I don't know, I'm not your host
#1691 [16:25] <Kealper> set online-mode to false for now then
#1692 [16:25] <PrinceOfAustria> it worked fine for the last few hours
#1693 [16:25] <PrinceOfAustria> suddenly stoped working
#1694 [16:25] <Kealper> and look in to using a different DNS provider
#1695 [16:26] <Kealper> mbentley: i seen the spam that the one nub did earlier, all people that are whitelisted on aubot can use !kick in this channel, syntax is !kick <name> <optional reason>
#1696 [16:26] * Steampoweredcat dances until the skins return
#1696 [16:27] <Kealper> if anyone spams like that, by all means, kick them
#1697 [16:27] <TheReddeH> yes use every resource available to kick them
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#1699 [16:28] <Steampoweredcat> heheh
#1700 [16:32] <Kealper> xales: i found another thing done in autoit with GDI+ stuff that just makes me do mind = blown lol
#1701 [16:32] <Kealper> some of the stuff people do with GDI+ is just crazy lol, and it runs pretty decent
#1702 [16:33] <feenyx> Kealper: I was asking earlier, but you weren't here.. Has anything been said about approximate backlog size for email support at Mojang?
#1703 [16:34] <Kealper> i'm affraid to even ask that lol
#1704 [16:34] <Kealper> the number is probably so large that it wouldn't fit in a 32bit int xD
#1705 [16:34] <feenyx> I would be too
#1706 [16:34] <feenyx> rofl
#1707 [16:34] <SkiingPenguins> do you like autoit better than autohotkey?
#1708 [16:35] <Kealper> it'd like...show -208326623 emails or something xD
#1709 [16:35] <Kealper> AHK is garbage
#1710 [16:35] <SkiingPenguins> i use it for small random things
#1711 [16:35] <Kealper> hell, AHK is literally a very old fork of AutoIt before they close-sourced it
#1712 [16:35] <Kealper> i think it's based off AutoIt v2
#1713 [16:35] <SkiingPenguins> ill take a look at AutoIT
#1714 [16:35] <feenyx> I'm guessing they either 1) have the common sense to run 64-bit server software, or 2) Host it somewhere that does :p
#1715 [16:35] <Kealper> oh god....AutoIt not IT lol
#1716 [16:36] <SkiingPenguins> whoops
#1717 [16:36] <Kealper> wow....big source is big....lemme upx the crap out of this before i show ya
#1718 [16:36] <SkiingPenguins> :O i recognize that autoit symbol! my school must use that 'cause it's always in the tray
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#1720 [16:37] <Kealper> always in the tray? makes me wonder what it's doing there >.>
#1721 [16:38] <SkiingPenguins> it's called "Application Install.exe" :P i think it's for their TightVNC (which i got their password for, using ahk)
#1722 [16:38] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/Zoomer.exe i didn't make this, i just tweeked it a bit to run a tad smoother
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#1724 [16:39] <Kealper> that uses pure AutoIt and the GDI+ library that comes with windows
#1725 [16:39] <Kealper> move your mouse around to make it change
#1726 [16:40] <SkiingPenguins> thats neat
#1727 [16:40] <xales> Kealper: Come to smp.shadow-craft.net:25570
#1728 [16:40] <Kealper> not until you check out that GDI+ thing i linked lol
#1729 [16:41] <Kealper> that one is definately worth a look, it's quite cool
#1730 [16:41] <xales> fine
#1731 [16:41] <Kealper> :P
#1732 [16:41] <SkiingPenguins> i make joke scripts for use in drafting class mostly
#1733 [16:42] <xales> Kealper: Very nice, come now? :P
#1734 [16:42] <Kealper> i abuse AutoIt and make it do stuff it was never supposed to do lol
#1735 [16:42] <Kealper> xales: brt
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#1737 [16:52] <PrinceOfAustria> kk the guy turned onlinemode to false
#1738 [16:52] <PrinceOfAustria> but now if i log in i log in as 'player'
#1739 [16:52] <PrinceOfAustria> and then no more than 1 guy can play at a time
#1740 [16:52] <Kealper> are you making sure to log in to the client?
#1741 [16:54] <PrinceOfAustria> doesnt work
#1742 [16:54] <PrinceOfAustria> i cant connect to MC
#1743 [16:54] <PrinceOfAustria> so we go to play offline > multiplayer
#1744 [16:54] <PrinceOfAustria> but that wont work
#1745 [16:55] <Kealper> no, you have to actually be logged in though your client for that offline mode on the server to work
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#1747 [16:56] <PrinceOfAustria> oh k
#1748 [16:56] <PrinceOfAustria> and wheres the difference between offline=false and offline=true?
#1749 [16:56] <PrinceOfAustria> skins dont load I assume, anything else?
#1750 [16:56] <feenyx> whether or not it checks with the minecraft servers if you paid or not
#1751 [16:57] <feenyx> ignore the last "or not", I realized that it was superfluous when read it back
#1752 [16:58] <PrinceOfAustria> so basically in this case i could give someone the data and he could play on my server without having paid?
#1753 [16:58] <PrinceOfAustria> now that sucks o_o
#1754 [16:59] <feenyx> exactly
#1755 [16:59] <GuluGulu> you can't play multiplayer (in local server) on offline mode ?
#1756 [17:00] <feenyx> you can, but so can anyone else, basically
#1757 [17:00] <feenyx> because the server doesn't check with minecraft.net before letting you in
#1758 [17:00] <GuluGulu> well i just tried to connect localy
#1759 [17:00] <GuluGulu> on my server 127
#1760 [17:00] <GuluGulu> after i select offline
#1761 [17:00] <GuluGulu> and got 503 error :S
#1762 [17:01] <GuluGulu> well no is online and it's ok but offline didnt work :S
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#1766 [17:02] <mr_wibble> Is minecraft down?
#1767 [17:02] <xales> nope
#1768 [17:02] <GuluGulu> was
#1769 [17:02] <GuluGulu> it's up the last 2 min
#1770 [17:02] <mr_wibble> says i cant connect to minecraft.net when i run it. :(
#1771 [17:02] <PrinceOfAustria> whys all this on/off?
#1772 [17:03] <GuluGulu> cos it's beta
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#1774 [17:03] <GuluGulu> mr: try close the program and rerun it
#1775 [17:03] <GuluGulu> damn nearly die from explosion :P
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#1777 [17:04] <m_32_mau_ibu2> I need a job! http://PROXYS.T35.COM
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#1779 [17:04] <SkiingPenguins> jeez
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#1781 [17:05] <[JD]> I need a job too D:
#1782 [17:05] <[JD]> qq
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#1785 [17:05] <Kealper> !load mod_nospam
#1786 [17:06] <xales> spamspam
#1787 [17:06] <xales> spam
#1788 [17:06] <xales> spamp
#1789 [17:06] <xales> ad
#1790 [17:06] <xales> asd
#1791 [17:06] <Kealper> probably not a good idea to notice the channels atm
#1792 [17:06] <xales> as
#1793 [17:06] <xales> d
#1794 [17:06] <Mathuin> Whoa! Don't drop the Tupperware you take out of the freezer. It shattered.
#1795 [17:06] <[JD]> wat
#1796 [17:06] <Wahrheit> teh fuck
#1797 [17:06] <Mathuin> Little plastic bits all over the kitchen.
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#1799 [17:07] <Wahrheit> Mathuin: Durp, didn't they teach you about the properties of frozen materials in chemistry? :S
#1800 [17:07] <xales> what the hell
#1801 [17:07] <xales> Shadow386: I get a 'protocol error' when I try to join
#1802 [17:07] <Mathuin> It's not like I *threw* it. It slid out of my hand.
#1803 [17:07] <Shadow386> lemme check
#1804 [17:07] <Wahrheit> Mathuin: SNAP
#1805 [17:07] <Mathuin> Although hmm, violence.
#1806 [17:07] <xales> Shadow386: never mind, restarted client
#1807 [17:07] <xales> and it fixed
#1808 [17:08] <Shadow386> okay
#1809 [17:08] <Shadow386> cause there's 6 people on with no issues
#1810 [17:08] <xales> I think it might be me ._.
#1811 [17:08] <xales> im laggy as hell
#1812 [17:08] <Shadow386> prob
#1813 [17:08] <Shadow386> i mean, i do have 2 servers running with it
#1814 [17:09] <Kealper> woh that server is lagging to hell right now xales
#1815 [17:09] <Shadow386> but one has maybe 2 people on
#1816 [17:09] <xales> ok, not just me shadow
#1817 [17:09] <Shadow386> our community is dieing
#1818 [17:09] <xales> :(
#1819 [17:09] <Kealper> down :/
#1820 [17:09] <Kealper> wait, back in
#1821 [17:10] <Shadow386> xales freebuild or survival?
#1822 [17:10] <xales> Kealper: No, its a legit server
#1823 [17:10] <xales> Shadow386: freebuild
#1824 [17:10] <Shadow386> hm
#1825 [17:10] <Shadow386> lemme restart them both
#1826 [17:10] <Kealper> then why does it suck right now -.-
#1827 [17:10] * Kealper nerdrages at server suckage
#1827 [17:10] <Shadow386> >_>
#1828 [17:10] <Kealper> :P
#1829 [17:11] <Kealper> well, while those restart.....brb
#1830 [17:11] <Shadow386> they
#1831 [17:11] <Shadow386> re back
#1832 [17:11] <xales> still laggy, not as bad though
#1833 [17:11] <Kealper> ok back
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#1835 [17:18] <xales> so
#1836 [17:18] <xales> I'm off to attempt to resize a massive NTFS volume
#1837 [17:18] <xales> I'm sure this will break windows but...oh well
#1838 [17:18] <Kealper> good luck lol
#1839 [17:19] <xales> thanks
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#1842 [17:26] <SkiingPenguins> hm im not sure i like AutoIt, oh well.
#1843 [17:26] <xales> lol
#1844 [17:26] <xales> anyway
#1845 [17:26] * xales clicks 'reboot'
#1845 [17:26] <Kealper> to each their own lol
#1846 [17:27] <SkiingPenguins> ^.^
#1847 [17:27] <Kealper> i hate the syntax of AHK
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#1849 [17:27] <xales> screw it, im changing my mind
#1850 [17:27] <SkiingPenguins> i feel the same about AutoIt :P
#1851 [17:27] <xales> i don't have time right now for this to ruin Windows
#1852 [17:27] <Kealper> lol
#1853 [17:28] <SkiingPenguins> ive done that xales! when it says updating dont shut off your computer... dont :P
#1854 [17:28] <umbridge> Hi i need help i just bought minecraft but it says i havn't
#1855 [17:28] <SkiingPenguins> umbridge how long ago was it?
#1856 [17:28] <Kealper> how long ago would "just bough" be?
#1857 [17:28] <umbridge> 20 mins
#1858 [17:28] <xales> umbridge: Did you use paypal or direct credit card?
#1859 [17:28] <umbridge> Direct
#1860 [17:28] <xales> direct is a bit slow, paypal is usually instant. thats why
#1861 [17:29] <umbridge> So how long do you think it will take to get the game
#1862 [17:29] <GuluGulu> well i got the games yesterday direct and it was like 5 min
#1863 [17:29] <GuluGulu> but it says up to an hour
#1864 [17:29] <GuluGulu> so soon will be ok
#1865 [17:29] <xales> umbridge: Not more than 24 hours
#1866 [17:30] <xales> it has to wait for your bank to completely authorize the transaction as well, whereas paypal will only wait for an authorization to make the transaction.
#1867 [17:30] <umbridge> Ok well thanks for the help :D
#1868 [17:30] <xales> mhmm
#1869 [17:30] * xales pokes Kealper.
#1869 [17:31] * xales goes back to idleland
#1869 [17:31] <Kealper> O.o
#1870 [17:31] * Kealper pokes AuBot
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#1871 [17:31] * xales annoys AuBot
#1871 [17:31] <lyude> Guys
#1872 [17:31] * xales pokes AuBot
#1872 [17:31] <lyude> What does java.io.UTFDataFormatException mean
#1873 [17:31] <xales> Server and client protocol version mismatch
#1874 [17:31] <lyude> I can't imagine it's anjything good
#1875 [17:32] <lyude> oh
#1876 [17:32] <xales> need to update the server
#1877 [17:32] <lyude> ooooh ok
#1878 [17:32] <Kealper> it means the server and your client are differe......ninja'd
#1879 [17:32] * lyude hands xales the ninja award, officially signed by her, so that means it's twice as awesome
#1879 [17:32] <Kealper> TIL lyude was actually a female
#1880 [17:33] <lyude> TIL?
#1881 [17:33] <Kealper> Today I Learned
#1882 [17:33] <GuluGulu> who wants to join my server for some survival ? :D
#1883 [17:33] <lyude> Ah
#1884 [17:33] <lyude> Today I learned my ABC's
#1885 [17:33] <lyude> I was pretty proud of myself
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#1887 [17:33] <Kealper> GuluGulu: i would but i'm currently farming in my server lol
#1888 [17:33] <Kealper> lyude: lol
#1889 [17:33] * xales goes back to idling again
#1889 [17:33] <GuluGulu> keal: i am totaly new and u know the feeling of the excitment :P
#1890 [17:33] <GuluGulu> need to share itttt
#1891 [17:34] <Kealper> xD
#1892 [17:34] <GuluGulu> trying to "move" a pont to my location...
#1893 [17:35] <lyude> java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: cw.<init>(Lnet/minecraft/server/MinecraftServer;)V
#1894 [17:35] <lyude> ^ that? D:
#1895 [17:36] <lyude> (Trying to update hMod as I learned today that it was finally updated for MC 1.2)
#1896 [17:40] <GuluGulu> snowball should do some dmg..
#1897 [17:41] <Kealper> it's just snow :/
#1898 [17:42] <feenyx> lyude: erm, hMod is out the door. Bukkit will be taking over
#1899 [17:42] <Kealper> good for sheering sheep without killing them
#1900 [17:42] <feenyx> as has been the case for the past two weeks atleast
#1901 [17:42] <lyude> Yeah
#1902 [17:42] <lyude> But hMod had a final update to make it work with MC 1.2
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#1904 [17:42] <feenyx> where was this announced?
#1905 [17:42] <lyude> And for right now, Bukkit has almost nothing :U
#1906 [17:42] <feenyx> Bukkit has heaps of plugins
#1907 [17:42] <lyude> I don't know, but my friend's minecraft server is on version 1.2 and it has hey0mod
#1908 [17:43] <lyude> Could you link me to a page with them?
#1909 [17:43] <lyude> Because I haven't been able to find it
#1910 [17:43] <feenyx> http://open.spotify.com/track/2o2V8Xo51zcgnahB9BI7U7
#1911 [17:43] <feenyx> er
#1912 [17:43] <lyude> Also, why does it seem no different from the stock server software? (bukkit)
#1913 [17:43] <feenyx> http://forums.bukkit.org/forums/plugin-releases.17/
#1914 [17:43] <feenyx> there
#1915 [17:43] <feenyx> bukkit IS no different than stock server software
#1916 [17:43] <Kealper> the Bukkit team said they would try and update hMod while bukkit was still in dev
#1917 [17:43] <feenyx> that's what plugins are for
#1918 [17:43] <feenyx> it's a framework
#1919 [17:44] <feenyx> you add what functionality you need through plugins
#1920 [17:44] <feenyx> as opposed to having a separate mod for everything
#1921 [17:44] <lyude> Aaaagh
#1922 [17:44] <lyude> *Aaaaah
#1923 [17:44] <lyude> That makes sense
#1924 [17:44] <lyude> Thank you
#1925 [17:44] <lyude> And I will brb
#1926 [17:45] <feenyx> I see there's an unofficial hMod build 134 in the hMod forums, but I'd rather just make the switch to Bukkit now if I were you
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#1930 [17:56] <lyude> Wow, I'm liking bukkit
#1931 [17:56] <lyude> Minimalist stuff ftw <3
#1932 [17:56] <feenyx> it's quite alright
#1933 [17:57] <feenyx> even if you only use it for server admin stuff like I do
#1934 [17:57] <lyude> I use mine for the manufacturing of small animals
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#1937 [18:05] <lyude> Anyone know how you go about compiling mcmap on linux?
#1938 [18:06] <lyude> Err
#1939 [18:06] <lyude> ncn
#1940 [18:06] <lyude> *nvm
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#1942 [18:07] <feenyx> lyude: why not just build animal farms?
#1943 [18:07] <feenyx> much like monster farms
#1944 [18:07] <wiggins96> any news on when the servers on gona be back online so i can upload a few skins
#1945 [18:07] <lyude> Because I'm awesome (I was kidding :P)
#1946 [18:08] <feenyx> wiggins96: nope, but it will be announced on notch.tumblr.com
#1947 [18:08] <dopeghoti> "Manufacturing of animals" explained: On a workbench, out one part raw port, three parts leather, two parts bone. Wait for Notch to implement lightning. Apply lightning.
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#1949 [18:08] <NinjaKirby> WTF, Fire doesn't display properly in SMP does it, jesus
#1950 [18:08] <wiggins96> ok
#1951 [18:08] <Mathuin> HAHAHAHAHAHA IT WORKED
#1952 [18:10] <lyude> Alright, now I forget, how do I compile something as i686 when I'm on an amd64 machine on linux
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#1954 [18:11] <dopeghoti> lyude: the term is cross-compiling, but I've never looked into actually doing it :p
#1955 [18:12] <Kealper> dope!
#1956 [18:12] <Mathuin> Googling for "linux cross-compile amd64" is sadly the easiest way.
#1957 [18:12] <Kealper> did you see my message about the !kick command?
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#1960 [18:14] <Flashbang> is there anybody here for once?
#1961 [18:14] <aetherian> no
#1962 [18:14] <aetherian> nobody
#1963 [18:14] <aetherian> at all
#1964 [18:14] <Flashbang> u being sarcastic?
#1965 [18:14] <aetherian> no
#1966 [18:14] <aetherian> of course not
#1967 [18:14] <Flashbang> -_-
#1968 [18:14] <Flashbang> so much for a help irc
#1969 [18:15] <aetherian> .....
#1970 [18:15] <aetherian> heh
#1971 [18:15] <aetherian> heh heh heh
#1972 [18:15] <Kealper> dotdotdot
#1973 [18:15] <Flashbang> :D
#1974 [18:15] <Flashbang> kso
#1975 [18:15] <aetherian> oh hey kells
#1976 [18:15] <Kealper> >.>
#1977 [18:15] <Flashbang> my minecraft worl isnt appearing in the world list :/
#1978 [18:16] <aetherian> ono
#1979 [18:16] <Kealper> classic?
#1980 [18:16] <Flashbang> no
#1981 [18:16] <aetherian> please check the space time continuum, and check back with us
#1982 [18:16] <Kealper> beta servers don't show up in the server list
#1983 [18:16] <aetherian> oh, you said /minecraft/ world
#1984 [18:16] <Kealper> that list is for classic servers only
#1985 [18:16] <Flashbang> well its in the saves folder, but doesnt show up in game
#1986 [18:16] <Flashbang> im talking about SSP
#1987 [18:17] <Kealper> OH
#1988 [18:17] <Kealper> derp
#1989 [18:17] <Kealper> that's probably not good
#1990 [18:17] <Kealper> usually means the world is corrupt :/
#1991 [18:17] <Flashbang> well it maght have something to do with me doing a forced shutdown but i saved it first
#1992 [18:18] <Flashbang> might*
#1993 [18:18] <Flashbang> and my other worlds are still there D:
#1994 [18:18] <Flashbang> is there any way to recover it?
#1995 [18:18] <Kealper> was that one the world that you were playing atthe time?
#1996 [18:19] <Kealper> at the*
#1997 [18:19] <Flashbang> huh?
#1998 [18:19] <Flashbang> ohh
#1999 [18:19] <Flashbang> and yes, but like i said i saved, and minecraft wasnt even opened when i shutdown -_-
#2000 [18:20] <Kealper> very weird
#2001 [18:20] <Kealper> well, there is usually not a way to recover it if it's corrupt enough to not show in the map list :/
#2002 [18:21] <Flashbang> im gonna try the level.dat_old
#2003 [18:21] <Kealper> and that corruptness issue is being addressed with a better file format in the works
#2004 [18:21] <Flashbang> :D
#2005 [18:21] <Flashbang> :DDD
#2006 [18:21] <Kealper> and that might work, because if it's not showing, it's because level.dat is corrupt
#2007 [18:21] <Flashbang> it worked
#2008 [18:21] * Flashbang is happy
#2008 [18:21] <Kealper> nice lol
#2009 [18:22] * Kealper makes note of that for future refernce
#2009 [18:22] <Kealper> referenec*
#2010 [18:22] <Kealper> screw it -.-
#2011 [18:22] <Flashbang> thx for attempting to help lol
#2012 [18:22] <Kealper> too cold in here to type corrctly
#2013 [18:22] <aetherian> referenica?
#2014 [18:22] <aetherian> that a cousin of yours?
#2015 [18:22] <Kealper> self-solved problems are the best-solved problems :O
#2016 [18:23] <aetherian> no problems are good problems
#2017 [18:23] <Flashbang> is having too much money a problem?
#2018 [18:23] <Kealper> but that divides by zero :/
#2019 [18:23] <Flashbang> thats a good problem
#2020 [18:23] <Kealper> you can never have too much money lol
#2021 [18:23] <aetherian> kealper: yes you can
#2022 [18:24] <aetherian> anything is possible when you divide by zero
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#2024 [18:24] <aetherian> it's joke time, something I thought up very recently.
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#2027 [18:24] <Kealper> when i see the name "Lamp" i think of LAMP (web server suite for Linux)
#2028 [18:24] <aetherian> "why doesn't anyone like to have a conversation with a mobius strip?"
#2029 [18:25] <Kealper> lol
#2030 [18:25] <aetherian> "because the conversation is always one sided"
#2031 [18:25] <Flashbang> ionno
#2032 [18:25] <aetherian> :D
#2033 [18:25] <Flashbang> y-.-
#2034 [18:25] <Kealper> aetherian: lol
#2035 [18:25] <aetherian> hehehe
#2036 [18:25] <dopeghoti> I would have gone with "because all the arguments are one-dimensional"
#2037 [18:25] <Flashbang> im used to pressing y before talking because of gmod :/
#2038 [18:25] <aetherian> thaha
#2039 [18:25] <aetherian> tfunny
#2040 [18:25] <aetherian> ;p
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#2042 [18:25] <SkiingPenguins> im used to T because of cube 2 :P
#2043 [18:25] <Kealper> tpressing t to talk ftw
#2044 [18:26] <aetherian> I'm used to t because of mc
#2045 [18:26] <Flashbang> lol
#2046 [18:26] <Kealper> tmostgames use t
#2047 [18:26] <dopeghoti> I'm used to prefixing 'say ' becaue I chat on my console a lot
#2048 [18:26] <Flashbang> well that makes sense t for talk
#2049 [18:26] <Kealper> imma have to type slower so i can actually check for typos before i press enter
#2050 [18:26] <Kealper> my fingers are far too cold to type accurately right now
#2051 [18:26] <SkiingPenguins> type faster and you can correct them before people notice them
#2052 [18:26] <aetherian> kells: I get that sometimes too
#2053 [18:27] <Kealper> michigan ftl
#2054 [18:27] <dopeghoti> SkiingPenguins: Or jsut get things right the first time.
#2055 [18:27] <aetherian> it's so annyoing for fps's
#2056 [18:27] <SkiingPenguins> :P
#2057 [18:27] <aetherian> ARGH why can't I shoot!
#2058 [18:27] <dopeghoti> aetherian: safety's on.
#2059 [18:27] <Flashbang> lol
#2060 [18:27] <aetherian> >.>
#2061 [18:27] <Kealper> speaking of FPS games....
#2062 [18:27] <Kealper> anyone have L4D2?
#2063 [18:27] <aetherian> lovely
#2064 [18:28] <aetherian> my syllabus for a college course just got emailed to me
#2065 [18:28] <aetherian> :)
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#2067 [18:28] <dopeghoti> Wanted: An FPS game where the guns actually do have safeties.
#2068 [18:28] <Kealper> LOL
#2069 [18:28] <Kealper> whoops
#2070 [18:28] <cruizer_drc> hi everybody
#2071 [18:28] <aetherian> ?
#2072 [18:28] <Kealper> caps lock ftl
#2073 [18:28] <SkiingPenguins> hello
#2074 [18:28] <aetherian> hey cruz
#2075 [18:28] <Flashbang> i wonder how happy mac owners were when people actually started making games for the,
#2076 [18:28] <Flashbang> them*
#2077 [18:29] <dopeghoti> Kealper: it's okay, 'LOL' is an acronym, so it's actually _correct_ when capitalized.
#2078 [18:29] <aetherian> :O
#2079 [18:29] <aetherian> dopeghoti: it's correct not _correct_
#2080 [18:29] <aetherian> :D
#2081 [18:29] <dopeghoti> aetherian: *really*?
#2082 [18:29] <dopeghoti> don't you speak Markdown?
#2083 [18:30] <GuluGulu> omg i got a teratogenisis tree on my garden with 4 unfinished tree trunks
#2084 [18:30] <Mathuin> I have to be patient, but if this worked, then it really, really worked.
#2085 [18:30] <aetherian> yes really
#2086 [18:30] <cruizer_drc> im new to minecraft (3 days ago) ... set up multiplay server and started playing... today my wife joined the server and can interact with most doors and chests ...
#2087 [18:31] <Mathuin> How do you guys distribute world files?
#2088 [18:31] <cruizer_drc> sorry ... CAN'T interact with most doors and chests
#2089 [18:31] <dopeghoti> I could to it this way, but it's ugly. *this* is just as readable and gets the same point across with no effort.
#2090 [18:31] <SkiingPenguins> cruizer_drc you need to make her an "op"
#2091 [18:31] <cruizer_drc> ?
#2092 [18:32] <Kealper> brotip: real irc clients actually underline words when you say _word_
#2093 [18:32] <SkiingPenguins> go to the ops.txt file and add her username, cruizer_drc
#2094 [18:32] <cruizer_drc> ok ...no problem. but by SkiingPenguins?
#2095 [18:32] <cruizer_drc> why?
#2096 [18:32] <cruizer_drc> not by ... :D it's late sorry :D
#2097 [18:32] <SkiingPenguins> so she can interact with doors and such
#2098 [18:33] <dopeghoti> Wait.. you don't need to be an op to use doors
#2099 [18:33] <Kealper> yes you do
#2100 [18:33] <cruizer_drc> but all other players (friends) don't have the problems...
#2101 [18:33] <dopeghoti> Whaaa?
#2102 [18:33] <Kealper> if it's in the spawn protection radius
#2103 [18:33] <dopeghoti> ...oh.
#2104 [18:33] <cruizer_drc> and they are no ops
#2105 [18:34] <dopeghoti> Hmm, that's an odd decision, but I guess it falls into the blanket rule of "no non-op block changes"
#2106 [18:34] <dopeghoti> I just wish the actual spawn location were no longer randomized :(
#2107 [18:34] <Kealper> dopeghoti: +1
#2108 [18:34] <Kealper> i wish people would spawn directly onthe spawn point, not somewhere around it
#2109 [18:34] <dopeghoti> I had a great welcome spawn point on my server, and now it's just a neat landmark somewhere near where you might spawn, maybe.
#2110 [18:34] <aetherian> oh god
#2111 [18:35] <Kealper> dopeghoti: same :/
#2112 [18:35] <aetherian> ono
#2113 [18:35] <cruizer_drc> is there any possibility to show spawn points?
#2114 [18:35] <dopeghoti> cruizer_drc: there's only one, and you spawn in a random location near it.
#2115 [18:35] <Mathuin> a) use Techtonicus or another mapper, b) put your crap in a chest, die, and then build a marker where you come to life, c) get a compass.
#2116 [18:36] <Kealper> yeah, you can use a compass to find it
#2117 [18:36] <dopeghoti> But it's no longer accurate.
#2118 [18:36] <cruizer_drc> ok .... how huge is the spawn protection radius?
#2119 [18:36] <Kealper> 16?
#2120 [18:36] <dopeghoti> It just points to the center of the you will spawn here zone
#2121 [18:36] <Mathuin> It used to be really, really accurate, like to the corner of the cube where I spawned.
#2122 [18:36] <cruizer_drc> u said its no longer accurate?
#2123 [18:37] <cruizer_drc> how big is the spawn protection radius?
#2124 [18:37] <cruizer_drc> ... in blocks?
#2125 [18:37] <Kealper> 16 blocks
#2126 [18:37] <Kealper> i think
#2127 [18:37] <Kealper> i'd have to actually check
#2128 [18:37] <cruizer_drc> oh... ok
#2129 [18:38] <dopeghoti> Mathuin: you no longer spawn at that exact point. You now spawn in the vicinity of that point, which is less useful.
#2130 [18:38] <cruizer_drc> ok
#2131 [18:38] <cruizer_drc> well i spawn near the problem zone
#2132 [18:39] <cruizer_drc> ok we all :D
#2133 [18:39] <cruizer_drc> but ... is there a possibility to change the spawn point location?
#2134 [18:40] <dopeghoti> cruizer_drc: not directly, but there are ways with nonsupported editors.
#2135 [18:42] <cruizer_drc> Thanks for your quick help! user opped ... problems gone :)
#2136 [18:42] <SkiingPenguins> :)
#2137 [18:42] <cruizer_drc> but ...
#2138 [18:42] <cruizer_drc> the spawn area seems to be directly between to castles... :(
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#2140 [18:43] <cruizer_drc> @dopghoti unsupported editors? example?
#2141 [18:43] <Kealper> MCEdit and such
#2142 [18:43] <Kealper> map editors
#2143 [18:44] <cruizer_drc> sorry, im completly new to mc
#2144 [18:44] <GuluGulu> what is hoe good for ?
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#2146 [18:44] <cruizer_drc> don't know any editory.... mcedit is good?
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#2148 [18:44] <cruizer_drc> editors
#2149 [18:44] <Kealper> i've used it before, it's not too bad
#2150 [18:44] <Kealper> but this channel doesn't give out support for third party programs, so...
#2151 [18:45] <cruizer_drc> is it easy to relocated the spawn point?
#2152 [18:45] <cruizer_drc> -d
#2153 [18:45] <Kealper> fairly easy, yea
#2154 [18:45] <cruizer_drc> ok, thx
#2155 [18:45] <cruizer_drc> are there any supported "backup" tools?
#2156 [18:45] <Kealper> nope :/
#2157 [18:46] <cruizer_drc> is it enough to tar the "world" directory?
#2158 [18:46] <cruizer_drc> for backup?
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#2160 [18:46] <Kealper> yes
#2161 [18:46] <cruizer_drc> ok... then i will try my best tomorrow ... its to late here in germany :-D ... but specially for me :D
#2162 [18:47] <Kealper> lol
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#2164 [18:47] <cruizer_drc> i know myself ... :D
#2165 [18:47] <cruizer_drc> BIG thanks to all for helping me so quick and efficient :D
#2166 [18:48] <cruizer_drc> #bye
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#2170 [18:53] <Mathuin> I finally have land cover and elevation working together. Go me!
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#2172 [18:56] <wileycoyote> My first time playing, I bought it and downloaded the client but when I try to run it, it says "Could not create the Java virtual machine" help?
#2173 [18:57] <wileycoyote> anybody there?
#2174 [18:57] <SkiingPenguins> your java is messed up
#2175 [18:57] <NinjaKirby> ^^ The technical answer
#2176 [18:57] <SkiingPenguins> you may need to reinstall java
#2177 [18:58] <wileycoyote> just go to java website and reinstall?
#2178 [18:58] <SkiingPenguins> yea, uninstall first
#2179 [18:58] <Mathuin> What SkiingPenguins said.
#2180 [18:58] <NinjaKirby> The latest version will allow you to plug your Fish tank into your TV
#2181 [18:59] <NinjaKirby> Where I work, people pretty much ask for that kinda stuff
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#2183 [19:00] <NinjaKirby> Or then there's the people that insist a DVI-HDMI adapter will work with a VGA-DVI cable, and then wonder why we don't allow the refund.
#2184 [19:00] <SkiingPenguins> you work with crazy people
#2185 [19:00] <Mathuin> I think he has crazy customers.
#2186 [19:00] <NinjaKirby> Mathuin has it right :/
#2187 [19:00] <SkiingPenguins> i have HDMI for my xbox
#2188 [19:00] <Mathuin> I will be buying a DVI-HDMI adapter at Fry's tomorrow so I can see minecraft on my tee vee.
#2189 [19:01] <NinjaKirby> Seperate audio lead already installed?
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#2191 [19:01] <Mathuin> Not yet. I need to dig out my crappy little switcher I have for audio output.
#2192 [19:01] <lauxjm> sup
#2193 [19:02] <NinjaKirby> :3
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#2196 [19:02] <lauxjm> Perhaps someone with a bit more knowledge can answer a question for me
#2197 [19:03] <xales> What is the question?
#2198 [19:03] * NinjaKirby finished installing Knowledge v2.1 last night
#2198 [19:03] <lauxjm> My mp server has been working fine for a few days, but now only spawns me on top of the nether, what causes it to do that?
#2199 [19:04] <xales> Do you have hellworld=true in the server.properties?
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#2201 [19:04] <lyude> Bukkit is... awesome
#2202 [19:04] <lyude> My god
#2203 [19:04] <lyude> It's so much faster
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#2205 [19:04] <lauxjm> I did not at first but when this started happening I tried activating it and deactivating it again and it restarted my server altogether
#2206 [19:04] <lyude> And it's made of iron AND it's circular
#2207 [19:05] <lauxjm> like complete wipe
#2208 [19:05] <Mathuin> What's the maximum size of an image postable to the forums?
#2209 [19:05] <lyude> lauxjm, you need to keep it off
#2210 [19:05] <lyude> Nether is not working yet in smp, you can have it on, but you can't have a normal world and the nether at the same time
#2211 [19:05] <xales> lauxjm: do you have any mods installed?
#2212 [19:05] <lyude> wELL YOU can
#2213 [19:05] <lyude> But you can't switch between them with warps
#2214 [19:06] <lauxjm> Na no mods atm, I fail at transferring my existing server info to the mod server info I have
#2215 [19:06] <xales> try copying the executable to a new directory and runnign it from there
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#2218 [19:10] <lauxjm> damn, it just resets the whole server to fresh one
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#2221 [19:12] <aetherian> !ping
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#2223 [19:13] <aetherian> !ping
#2224 [19:13] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.31 Seconds.
#2225 [19:14] <aetherian> that can't be right
#2226 [19:14] <Mathuin> http://i.imgur.com/xN21e.png
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#2228 [19:18] <aetherian> oh my
#2229 [19:18] <aetherian> this class is going to be easay
#2230 [19:18] <aetherian> "programming logic and design"
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#2232 [19:19] <aetherian> heya dave
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#2234 [19:20] <aetherian> heya juy
#2235 [19:22] <lauxjm> xales and lyude, thanks for the help. My server is running now and able to be logged in. Is there any way to copy the map files of my old info to this new stuff since it wiped my server?
#2236 [19:23] <xales> you could try, but it might be related to the problem
#2237 [19:23] <xales> just copy the world folder
#2238 [19:23] <lauxjm> ah I see
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#2240 [19:24] <aetherian> hey clone
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#2242 [19:41] <dopeghoti> wow
#2243 [19:41] <dopeghoti> I'll just leave this here:
#2244 [19:42] <dopeghoti> [host redacted] 00:40:15 up 122 days, 19:43, 0 users, load average: 449.86, 477.73, 281.76
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#2246 [19:43] <Fantleas> Hey
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#2248 [19:44] <dopeghoti> 'lo
#2249 [19:45] <aetherian> yoyo
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#2251 [19:45] <Fantleas> Hi guys :P
#2252 [19:46] <aetherian> heya
#2253 [19:46] <aetherian> mr. fant of heart
#2254 [19:46] <Fantleas> :D
#2255 [19:46] <Fantleas> Is there a faster way to upload my Minecraft server contents other than via FTP?
#2256 [19:46] <Fantleas> It takes too much time with Filezilla :S
#2257 [19:46] <dopeghoti> Fantleas: scp with complression?
#2258 [19:47] <Fantleas> (To upload) ^
#2259 [19:47] <Fantleas> Oh...
#2260 [19:47] <Fantleas> :D! Thanks
#2261 [19:47] <dopeghoti> erm, compression rather, but yeah
#2262 [19:47] <dopeghoti> the world data compresses pretty readily
#2263 [19:47] <dopeghoti> rsync -za works very well too
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#2265 [19:47] <Fantleas> Yep.
#2266 [19:48] <Fantleas> And how do I delete my current server (old) folder rapidly?
#2267 [19:48] <Fantleas> Because on filezilla it is deleting it folder by folder >.>
#2268 [19:48] <Fantleas> Taking too much time.
#2269 [19:48] <dopeghoti> rm -rf /path/to/probelatic/directory
#2270 [19:48] <Fantleas> Thank you :)
#2271 [19:48] <aetherian> probe latic?
#2272 [19:49] <dopeghoti> aetherian: ah, you found the problem
#2273 [19:49] <dopeghoti> aetherian: that was fast
#2274 [19:49] <aetherian> haha
#2275 [19:49] <aetherian> problematic
#2276 [19:49] <aetherian> ?
#2277 [19:49] <dopeghoti> aetherian: It was a pun, you see.
#2278 [19:50] <aetherian> dopefish: it was puny
#2279 [19:50] <aetherian> get it? hehehe...
#2280 [19:50] <dopeghoti> I read ] as an inverse Applesoft BASIC prompt.
#2281 [19:50] <dopeghoti> So my reply would probably be ?SYNTAX ERROR
#2282 [19:51] <aetherian> why can't it ever say excellent file name... it always insults my naming schemes
#2283 [19:51] <Fantleas> I compress it to .tar right? That's the best option I think.
#2284 [19:52] <dopeghoti> Because when it seed a good filename, it's so excited, it has to run it :)
#2285 [19:52] <dopeghoti> Fantleas: I use .tbz, but .tgz should work too.
#2286 [19:52] <dopeghoti> Just .tar isn't compression.
#2287 [19:52] <Fantleas> :o
#2288 [19:52] <Fantleas> 7zip does not have that... I will have to download WinRAR, oh lol.
#2289 [19:52] <dopeghoti> (for proof, tar up a bunch of text files; you'll be able to read them with cat)
#2290 [19:52] <dopeghoti> um, 7Zip supports .tgz just fine!
#2291 [19:53] <Fantleas> o.o
#2292 [19:53] <dopeghoti> (.tgz == .tar.gz)
#2293 [19:53] <Fantleas> Oh
#2294 [19:54] <SkiingPenguins> 7zip can .tar something, then you can gzip or bzip it and achieve .tbz or .tgz basically
#2295 [19:55] <aetherian> watch out for tar
#2296 [19:55] <aetherian> it's sticky
#2297 [19:55] <Fantleas> Oh I just found out how.
#2298 [19:55] <Fantleas> As SkiingPenguins said, you make a .tar first, then compress into gzip or bzip
#2299 [19:56] <Fantleas> :)
#2300 [19:56] <SkiingPenguins> i like .tar a lot
#2301 [19:56] <aetherian> which is better, 7zip or winrar
#2302 [19:56] <SkiingPenguins> 7-zip
#2303 [19:56] <aetherian> mmk
#2304 [19:56] <Fantleas> ^
#2305 [19:56] <Fantleas> :D
#2306 [19:56] <aetherian> I'll download that someday
#2307 [19:56] <aetherian> winrar came preinstalled on dis machine
#2308 [19:56] <SkiingPenguins> HA
#2309 [19:56] <aetherian> ikr
#2310 [19:57] <aetherian> hey
#2311 [19:57] <aetherian> anyone know of any good custom maps?
#2312 [19:58] <aetherian> no?
#2313 [19:58] <SkiingPenguins> nope
#2314 [19:58] <SkiingPenguins> i make my own maps
#2315 [19:58] <aetherian> hrm
#2316 [19:58] <SkiingPenguins> then delete them
#2317 [19:58] <Fantleas> Okay, so now I have 'minecraft.tar.gz' with the file 'minecraft.tar' inside. Will that decompress fine?
#2318 [19:59] <SkiingPenguins> yes
#2319 [19:59] <SkiingPenguins> why you compressing it?
#2320 [19:59] <Fantleas> Do you know the cmd for decompressiong?
#2321 [19:59] <SkiingPenguins> no
#2322 [19:59] <Fantleas> decompression*
#2323 [19:59] <Fantleas> Oh and I do it because it takes a lot of time in Filezilla without compression.
#2324 [19:59] <SkiingPenguins> ah
#2325 [19:59] <Fantleas> Adds each folder manually D:
#2326 [20:02] <dopeghoti> No one should ever use winrar. Ever. It's second only to WinAce in crapcatularity.
#2327 [20:03] <Fantleas> That's why I only have 7zip.
#2328 [20:03] <Fantleas> It is free :D
#2329 [20:03] <Fantleas> And better ^
#2330 [20:05] <dopeghoti> Of course, I'd also recommend 7z over 7zip, but hey
#2331 [20:05] <dopeghoti> Not everyone can handle an interface device with more than three buttons :)
#2332 [20:06] <aetherian> omigod over 9000 buttons :O
#2333 [20:07] <aetherian> anyone here program/have an opinion as to what laguage would be a good one to teach oneself as a first?
#2334 [20:07] <dopeghoti> "Pascal"
#2335 [20:08] <dopeghoti> but seriously, probably Python or C.
#2336 [20:08] <aetherian> never hear- disregard that, I have heard of pascal, passingly
#2337 [20:08] <aetherian> and I've been thinking python
#2338 [20:08] <aetherian> to go along with a programming logic course
#2339 [20:08] <dopeghoti> Python to get a grasp on OOP; C to get a good grasp of general procedural code, pointers, and how to build your own strings because it doesn't have any.
#2340 [20:09] <dopeghoti> (Seriously, WTF, C?)
#2341 [20:09] <aetherian> OOP?
#2342 [20:09] <aetherian> and why would one need to know how to build strings, anyways?
#2343 [20:10] <dopeghoti> aetherian: Again: because C doesn't have any sort of string time. char*s are all well and good until you start passing paramaters back and forth.
#2344 [20:10] <Fantleas> Will dir -ls give me the list of directories under a folder?
#2345 [20:10] <dopeghoti> Fantleas: no, you want 'tree'
#2346 [20:10] <Fantleas> What does dir -ls do, then? Because it actually worked.
#2347 [20:10] <Fantleas> And ls -dir too
#2348 [20:11] <Fantleas> What are they supposed to do? :P
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#2350 [20:12] <Fantleas> Wait, tree did not work D:
#2351 [20:12] <Fantleas> I use CentOS 5.5
#2352 [20:12] <Doctor> I love CentOS
#2353 [20:12] <dopeghoti> 'yum install tree'
#2354 [20:12] <Doctor> What do you need help with?
#2355 [20:12] <dopeghoti> (or 'yum install debian' (: )
#2356 [20:13] <aetherian> tasty
#2357 [20:13] <Fantleas> Oh, says I have to be root to perform it
#2358 [20:13] <Doctor> sudo yum install tree
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#2360 [20:13] <dopeghoti> once installed, `tree -d` will give you, well, a directory tree
#2361 [20:14] <Fantleas> 'user' is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
#2362 [20:14] <Fantleas> I got that.
#2363 [20:14] <aetherian> reported :O
#2364 [20:14] <dopeghoti> Fantleas: su -c "yum install tree"
#2365 [20:14] <Doctor> lol
#2366 [20:14] <Fantleas> Lol.
#2367 [20:14] <dopeghoti> Fantleas: give it your root password.
#2368 [20:14] <Fantleas> oh ok
#2369 [20:15] <dopeghoti> installing and setting up sudoers is an whole other discussion.
#2370 [20:15] <dopeghoti> "/join #grammar\nIs it 'an whole other'; or 'a whole nother'?\n/part #grammar"
#2371 [20:17] <Fantleas> Didn't work giving it my root pass.
#2372 [20:17] <Fantleas> Keeps asking for the current user pass.
#2373 [20:17] <Fantleas> And when I do it doesn't install anything.
#2374 [20:17] <Fantleas> user is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
#2375 [20:17] <dopeghoti> Fantleas: again, you have to have /etc/sudoers set up properly to use sudo
#2376 [20:17] <dopeghoti> use `su -` to get a root prompt
#2377 [20:17] <Fantleas> Hoq?
#2378 [20:18] <Fantleas> How*
#2379 [20:18] <Fantleas> Ok
#2380 [20:18] <dopeghoti> `su -` will ask you for the _root_ password, not your normal one
#2381 [20:18] <Doctor> Fantleas how are you connected to the server?
#2382 [20:18] <Fantleas> Normal user.
#2383 [20:18] <Fantleas> SSH
#2384 [20:18] <Fantleas> Port 22?
#2385 [20:18] <Doctor> Reconnect. When its asks for username put root and your root password
#2386 [20:18] <dopeghoti> If you don't have the root password, this conversation will be very short :)
#2387 [20:19] <Doctor> Which you know right?
#2388 [20:19] <Fantleas> Yes.
#2389 [20:19] <aetherian> joke time
#2390 [20:19] <dopeghoti> Doctor: not all servers allow drirect SSH connections as root, which is A Good Thing
#2391 [20:19] <Doctor> Psh
#2392 [20:19] <Fantleas> It works on mine, though.
#2393 [20:19] <Doctor> I like my servers unsecure
#2394 [20:19] <aetherian> have you heard of this radical new way of solving things?
#2395 [20:19] <aetherian> it really gets to the /root/ of the problem
#2396 [20:19] <aetherian> wahaha
#2397 [20:19] <aetherian> heh
#2398 [20:20] <Fantleas> I do su - and nothing happens
#2399 [20:20] <aetherian> radical...root...
#2400 [20:21] <Fantleas> Meh, I just used 'yum install tree' via root, lol.
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#2403 [20:26] <Fantleas> So, anyone knows the cmd to extract a .tar.gz in a folder, in the directory you currently are?
#2404 [20:26] <clone1018> In CentOS?
#2405 [20:26] <Fantleas> Yes.
#2406 [20:26] <Fantleas> 5.5
#2407 [20:26] <Mathuin> tar zxf foo.tar.gz should do it.
#2408 [20:26] <clone1018> I have to google it every time lol
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#2411 [20:27] <clone1018> I can NEVER remember the tar params
#2412 [20:27] <XaoMoaX> How do I toss a whole bunch of stone/gravel at once?
#2413 [20:27] <Fantleas> :-P
#2414 [20:27] <Fantleas> Put them on your inventory and toss them.
#2415 [20:27] <Fantleas> By dragging them.
#2416 [20:29] <Fantleas> @ Mathuin: And what would the name of the extracted content's folder be, then?
#2417 [20:29] <Fantleas> The same as the name of the .tar.gz file?
#2418 [20:29] <dopeghoti> run `Fantleas: tar zxvf /path/to/the/tarball.tar.gz` from the directory you want it extracted into
#2419 [20:29] <dopeghoti> for a try run use tzvf rather than zxvf
#2420 [20:29] <Fantleas> Okay :D
#2421 [20:30] <dopeghoti> TTANTS but could be: try run; dry run
#2422 [20:31] <Fantleas> Be right back, I have to change connection.
#2423 [20:32] <XaoMoaX> woot. kk, thanks Fantleas, cause I have tons of gravel. It doesn't make anything, does it?
#2424 [20:33] <dopeghoti> XaoMoaX: flint.
#2425 [20:33] <dopeghoti> and it makes great scaffolding, and paths.
#2426 [20:34] <XaoMoaX> I can't get the flint to do anything
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#2429 [20:38] <dopeghoti> XaoMoaX: flint is what you use to make firelighters, and arrows.
#2430 [20:39] <dopeghoti> ./~ Flint stones, meet the flint stones... ./~
#2431 [20:43] <aetherian> ...heh
#2432 [20:43] <XaoMoaX> ah, gotcha. So if I craft flint and flint, it makes a lighter of sorts?
#2433 [20:43] <aetherian> flint n steel
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#2435 [20:44] <dopeghoti> indeed, sparky.
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#2437 [20:44] <aetherian> sparky o_O
#2438 [20:44] * aetherian is away: stoof
#2438 [20:45] <Kealper> i love it when game installers are like "herp...you has directx 11....this is not directx 9.0c...so..i install 9.0x for youz"
#2439 [20:45] <Kealper> 9.0c*
#2440 [20:46] <clone1018> Ohai Kealper
#2441 [20:46] <aetherian> derpdidlydoo
#2442 [20:46] <Kealper> oh yuk....it starts in 1024x768.....
#2443 [20:46] <Kealper> an hi
#2444 [20:46] <Kealper> and*
#2445 [20:46] <aetherian> what game izzis?
#2446 [20:48] <aetherian> kelly
#2447 [20:48] <aetherian> answer me
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#2449 [20:49] <Kealper> RIFT
#2450 [20:49] <Kealper> an mmo that i am signed up for closed beta on
#2451 [20:50] <aetherian> ah
#2452 [20:50] * aetherian hugs kelly
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#2454 [20:53] <Kealper> those graphics look pretty nice....i'm actually looking forward to playing it when CB starts tomorrow lol
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#2457 [21:01] <Fantleas> Back. :)
#2458 [21:01] * aetherian is away: game
#2458 [21:02] <Fantleas> I checked the processes list with 'ps aux' and it showed many sessions of sftp with my user...
#2459 [21:02] <Fantleas> Is this because I didn't log out correctly?
#2460 [21:02] <Fantleas> And will those processes be killed automatically? :/
#2461 [21:06] <Fantleas> It has some repeated processes coming from the same user...
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#2463 [21:09] <anadrom> how do you disable exploring new map areas on server?
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#2466 [21:13] <ElectroPulsar> Does anybody know of a good light OS distro with Java preloaded?
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#2469 [21:13] <dopeghoti> ElectroPulsar: xubuntu?
#2470 [21:13] <ElectroPulsar> It has it preloaded?
#2471 [21:14] <dopeghoti> ElectroPulsar: I know ubuntu does (OpenJDK, but it works fine in most cases).
#2472 [21:14] <dopeghoti> ElectroPulsar: I haven't used xubuntu personally
#2473 [21:14] <ElectroPulsar> Ok
#2474 [21:14] <XaoMoaX> I used to run puppy linux. Good ot burn a distro just to keep around
#2475 [21:14] <XaoMoaX> for emergancies
#2476 [21:14] <BurnZeZ> Yes.
#2477 [21:14] <ElectroPulsar> I have a laptop that has a dual core 1.86ghz processor with 2gb of ram, and its really laggy on minecraft
#2478 [21:15] <dopeghoti> load average: 433.96, 357.27, 384.94 dammit, China, stop spidering my client's site!
#2479 [21:15] <BurnZeZ> ElectroPulsar: 1.86ghz isn't enough.
#2480 [21:15] <BurnZeZ> Minecraft is cpu intensive.
#2481 [21:15] <ElectroPulsar> Yea, I am not too familiar with linux, so after an even ing of trying to get Java installed on Puppy linux, just to have Minecraft crash when I tried running it, I have given up
#2482 [21:16] <ElectroPulsar> oh
#2483 [21:16] <ElectroPulsar> I thought I read somewhere 1.5ghz if dual...
#2484 [21:17] <ElectroPulsar> Well this sucks. Now what to do on vacation, lol
#2485 [21:17] <dopeghoti> ElectroPulsar: minecraft isn't multithreaded, so you could have 8192 cores; it'd only use one at a time
#2486 [21:18] * dopeghoti goes home now
#2486 [21:18] <ElectroPulsar> So a light OS won't help?
#2487 [21:19] <ElectroPulsar> I was figuring it was Vista that was being the major slowdown
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#2490 [21:22] <XaoMoaX> Vista is ALWAYS a slowdown
#2491 [21:22] <XaoMoaX> damn devil OS
#2492 [21:22] <XaoMoaX> I have it, and despise it
#2493 [21:23] <Fantleas> :s
#2494 [21:24] <Fantleas> I made a Creative Server, I get no errors on console, but when I go to the url it gives me, I don't connect to any servers.
#2495 [21:24] <Fantleas> The game loads up as if it was single player...
#2496 [21:24] <Fantleas> Suggestions? D:
#2497 [21:25] <XaoMoaX> I would help you old chap but when my pc fails me I go hit a punching bag. So I'm likely not the best helper.
#2498 [21:26] <Fantleas> :O
#2499 [21:26] <XaoMoaX> But, I can try to make you laugh. I'm good with humor occasionally
#2500 [21:27] <Fantleas> Okay :(
#2501 [21:27] <Fantleas> Do it :)
#2502 [21:29] <XaoMoaX> Okay, so this guy walks in to a bar and orders 10 shots of Vodka, the bartender says "what's wrong with you pal?" The guy says my youngest son is gay." The bartender spends an hour talking to the guy, reminding him at least his son his alive, doing well, and strong. The guy leaves
#2503 [21:30] <Fantleas> LOL
#2504 [21:30] <Fantleas> D:
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#2506 [21:31] <XaoMoaX> The next month, the guy comes back in, hairs a mess, orders 10 shots of rum. The bartender says "alright buddy, what's wrong this time?" The guy says my oldest son is gay. The bartender gives him the same speech, and the guy leaves.
#2507 [21:31] <Fantleas> (hmm)
#2508 [21:32] <XaoMoaX> Three months go by, and the bartender sees the guy walk in again, hairs a mess, suits all messed up, guy hasn't shaved in a week. This time, the bartender says "Pal, doesn't anyone in your family like women?"
#2509 [21:32] <XaoMoaX> The guy replies "apparently my wife"
#2510 [21:33] <Fantleas> XD
#2511 [21:33] <Fantleas> lolol
#2512 [21:34] <XaoMoaX> See? It helps some
#2513 [21:36] <Fantleas> I still need help though. :(
#2514 [21:36] <Fantleas> Why wouldn't it be loading? I am using this cmd 'java -Xms700M -Xmx700M -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer'
#2515 [21:37] <Fantleas> I get no errors (finally), but when I go to the URL of the server, it just starts a single player game.
#2516 [21:38] <AndrewPH> Minecraft.net is apparently having issues like that. I've experienced it myself :p
#2517 [21:38] <AndrewPH> I'm not sure if there's a fix beyond waiting on that one
#2518 [21:39] <Fantleas> Oh, it's all about the server's migration?
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#2520 [21:40] <AndrewPH> I believe so
#2521 [21:40] <Fantleas> Is there like a cmd to kill dead processes?
#2522 [21:40] <Fantleas> I keep seeing repeated processes in the ps aux list..
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#2527 [21:49] <mib_hbcj30> fffuk
#2528 [21:49] <mib_hbcj30> shtsrt
#2529 [21:50] <mib_hbcj30> hello?
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#2531 [21:50] <mib_hbcj30> i can't join minecraft servers from the site plz hlp !!!
#2532 [21:51] <XaoMoaX> We think there's a problem right now
#2533 [21:51] <mib_hbcj30> wen will it b fixed?
#2534 [21:51] <XaoMoaX> server migration is likely causing it, so it ought to be fixed soon enough
#2535 [21:51] <mib_hbcj30> how soon?
#2536 [21:52] <mib_hbcj30> when will it b fixed?
#2537 [21:53] <XaoMoaX> Not sure bud. Just hang in there and I'm sure they'll be hammering it out soon
#2538 [21:54] <XaoMoaX> You know you've mined one spot too long when you can officially get lost in your own maze
#2539 [21:54] <mib_hbcj30> its happend to me twice
#2540 [21:54] <mib_hbcj30> i had to stack dirt and mine my way straight up
#2541 [21:55] <mib_hbcj30> I ran into lava the first time :P
#2542 [21:55] <XaoMoaX> lol, I hear ya
#2543 [21:56] <mib_hbcj30> any tips on how to locte diamond easier? ive only ever found two :(
#2544 [21:56] <mib_hbcj30> *locate
#2545 [21:56] <XaoMoaX> I made my home out of a hillside, I love it, but after owning over 1,000 pieces of cobblestone, I'm thinking it's time to make a huge tower or castle
#2546 [21:56] <XaoMoaX> I'm only hitting random iron and a ton of redstone so far
#2547 [21:56] <mib_hbcj30> oo! castle!
#2548 [21:56] <mib_hbcj30> me too!
#2549 [21:56] <mib_hbcj30> i have over 150 coal and lotsa redstone!
#2550 [21:56] <XaoMoaX> I figure I gotta do something w/ the stone. Although, when I do play on servers, I'm all about the hill homes
#2551 [21:57] <XaoMoaX> They're quick and very low maintenance. Creeper blows it up? get more dirt and patch it
#2552 [21:57] <mib_hbcj30> i like cave homes. you build yours next to your spawn?
#2553 [21:57] <XaoMoaX> I try, some servers don't allow it
#2554 [21:57] <mib_hbcj30> darn! then you could use a compass if you get lost
#2555 [21:58] <mib_hbcj30> it points me straight home!
#2556 [21:58] <XaoMoaX> Yeah, if I ever get out I'm gonna make one
#2557 [21:58] <XaoMoaX> I'll miss my little hill home though
#2558 [21:58] <mib_hbcj30> stack cobblestone and mine up
#2559 [21:58] <mib_hbcj30> make compass and go home
#2560 [22:00] <Fantleas> bbl
#2561 [22:00] <mib_hbcj30> alright i g2g maybe ill see you online. good luck!
#2562 [22:00] <Fantleas> I hope the creative servers problem gets solved soon D:
#2563 [22:00] <Fantleas> cya
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#2566 [22:06] <XaoMoaX> not hitting enough gold for a compass
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#2570 [22:07] <Jackson413> hey dudes
#2571 [22:07] <Jackson413> i need some advice on a server comp
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#2573 [22:11] <Jackson413> with a 16gb solid state
#2574 [22:11] <Jackson413> kealper?
#2575 [22:12] <Kealper> totally just owned my internet connection
#2576 [22:12] <Kealper> back now lol
#2577 [22:12] <Jackson413> lets say i am about to buy a comp w/ these specs 4gb ram, 4ghz
#2578 [22:12] <Kealper> yeah, i can still read what was said lol
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#2581 [22:12] <Jackson413> is that good?
#2582 [22:12] <Jackson413> or is that ok
#2583 [22:12] <Kealper> assuming you mean 4ghz cpu.....(which only exists if you overclock one)
#2584 [22:13] <Kealper> then that would be more than suitable
#2585 [22:13] <Jackson413> for how many people?
#2586 [22:13] <Jackson413> and solid state
#2587 [22:13] <Jackson413> drive
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#2589 [22:13] <Jackson413> 16gb
#2590 [22:13] <Kealper> all depends on your internet speed if you had 4 gigs of ram and a nice cpu
#2591 [22:13] <x2robbie2x> does anyone know the solution to the black/white screen before minecraft opens up?
#2592 [22:13] <Coll> !help
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#2594 [22:13] <Kealper> x2robbie2x: new graphics drivers?
#2595 [22:14] <Coll> !check 76.18.92.56
#2596 [22:14] <x2robbie2x> how do i know if my drivers need updating?
#2597 [22:14] <Coll> oh yeah port
#2598 [22:14] <Coll> !check 76.18.92.56:25565
#2599 [22:14] <Coll> :/
#2600 [22:14] <Kealper> x2robbie2x: if you have to ask...they probably do lol
#2601 [22:14] <Kealper> Coll: it defaults to 25565 :/
#2602 [22:14] <x2robbie2x> well i bought my comp 3 months ago, stuffs brand new
#2603 [22:14] <Coll> oh ok
#2604 [22:15] <Kealper> x2robbie2x: laptop?
#2605 [22:15] <x2robbie2x> desktop
#2606 [22:15] <Kealper> Jackson413: are you going to be hosting on your own internet? or from a server in a datacenter?
#2607 [22:15] <Jackson413> hosting on my own internet
#2608 [22:15] <Kealper> x2robbie2x: have you tried reinstalling java?
#2609 [22:16] <AndrewPH> Jackson413, speedtest.net, post result in here
#2610 [22:16] <Jackson413> hold on
#2611 [22:16] <Kealper> Jackson413: http://speedtest.net choose the golden server, give the result link when you are done
#2612 [22:16] <Coll> !check 76.18.92.56:25565
#2613 [22:16] <Kealper> dang AndrewPH you ninja'd me hard
#2614 [22:16] <Coll> sweet
#2615 [22:16] <x2robbie2x> yes, i always keep java up to date but even reinstalling it didnt work
#2616 [22:16] <AndrewPH> Good news everyone, I've made a device that makes you read this in my voice!
#2617 [22:16] <Kealper> damn you
#2618 [22:17] <Coll> What voice would that be
#2619 [22:17] <Kealper> invented*
#2620 [22:17] <Coll> all I hear is mine
#2621 [22:17] <Kealper> Coll: Dr. Farnsworth from Futurama
#2622 [22:17] <Coll> cant say I know that
#2623 [22:18] <Kealper> o.o
#2624 [22:18] <AndrewPH> Generally, *walk into meeting room or something* 'Good news everyone! ' *suicide mission here*
#2625 [22:18] <Kealper> oh yeah, his internet is totally good enough for a server *looks at quit reason*
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#2628 [22:19] <Kealper> i'll bet one gold block that when he comes back on, and i ask him if he is on wireless...he'll say yes
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#2630 [22:19] <Kealper> Jackson413: are you on wireless?
#2631 [22:19] <Jackson413> i got 15mbs
#2632 [22:19] <AndrewPH> Jackson413, post the result image in here sir
#2633 [22:19] <Kealper> your download is not what counts most, post the image
#2634 [22:19] <Jackson413> how?
#2635 [22:20] <Kealper> it should have given you a link
#2636 [22:20] <Jackson413> i did speedtest.net?
#2637 [22:20] <aetherian> heyA
#2638 [22:20] <Jackson413> where does it say the link?
#2639 [22:21] <Kealper> it should say something like "Direct Link" and "Forum Link" at the end of the test, and two copy buttons
#2640 [22:21] <Jackson413> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1126418187.png
#2641 [22:21] <aetherian> heh
#2642 [22:21] <Kealper> cute
#2643 [22:21] <Jackson413> is that good?
#2644 [22:21] <AndrewPH> Jackson413, half a megabit up is not good at all
#2645 [22:21] <Kealper> the upload speed is garbage
#2646 [22:22] <Jackson413> huh
#2647 [22:22] <AndrewPH> It's 64KB/s up
#2648 [22:22] <AndrewPH> Thats...
#2649 [22:22] <Jackson413> how do i increase it?
#2650 [22:22] <Kealper> you can't increase it
#2651 [22:22] <AndrewPH> You order hosting-tier internet.
#2652 [22:22] <Jackson413> so will my server just suck ass anyway?
#2653 [22:22] <Jackson413> i get this shit for free
#2654 [22:22] <Jackson413> lol
#2655 [22:23] <Jackson413> my old man works for time warner
#2656 [22:23] <AndrewPH> Not sure TW has packages with above-average upspeeds
#2657 [22:23] <Kealper> well, with upload like that, it would be a lagfest with 10 people on
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#2659 [22:24] <Kealper> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1126420108.png <-- real home internet
#2660 [22:24] <Jackson413> i hate you
#2661 [22:24] * Kealper bows
#2661 [22:24] <aetherian> haha
#2662 [22:24] <aetherian> wow
#2663 [22:24] <Jackson413> how can it be that bad
#2664 [22:24] <Jackson413> i dont get it
#2665 [22:25] <AndrewPH> 64KB/s is VERY slow
#2666 [22:25] <AndrewPH> Very, very slow
#2667 [22:25] <Jackson413> yeah
#2668 [22:25] <AndrewPH> that's how it can be that bad
#2669 [22:25] <Jackson413> that is
#2670 [22:25] <aetherian> how much does that cost you o_O
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#2672 [22:25] <Jackson413> so my server comp will be shit anyway?
#2673 [22:25] <Kealper> OODavo_: MURDERER!
#2674 [22:25] <aetherian> ack damn router >.>
#2675 [22:25] <OODavo_> Darn, I still can't switch my nick back. :|
#2676 [22:25] <Kealper> Jackson413: depends, how many people did you want to have on your server?
#2677 [22:26] <OODavo_> Kealper: :P
#2678 [22:26] <Jackson413> like idk 20
#2679 [22:26] <AndrewPH> 64KB/s could probably safely hold about one person
#2680 [22:26] <Kealper> yeah, .64mbps won't do that at all
#2681 [22:26] <AndrewPH> maaaybe one and a half
#2682 [22:26] <Jackson413> fuck
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#2684 [22:26] <Jackson413> i cant believe it
#2685 [22:26] <aetherian> I swear someone's stealing internet from us >.>
#2686 [22:26] <Jackson413> could it be my router?
#2687 [22:26] <aetherian> last night, when all were asleep
#2688 [22:27] <Kealper> Jackson413: your router is probably capable of atleast 100mbit speeds, so no
#2689 [22:27] <Jackson413> my diownload speed is so good, but my upload speed is like sex with hilary clinton?
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#2691 [22:27] <aetherian> I got a bandwidth exceeded message
#2692 [22:27] <Jackson413> how?!?!?
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#2694 [22:27] <Kealper> Jackson413: that's how most cable companies get you
#2695 [22:27] <Jackson413> how is my upload speed that bad
#2696 [22:27] <Kealper> they give you great download speeds, but bork your upload
#2697 [22:27] <Jackson413> but my dad fucking works for time warner
#2698 [22:28] <Kealper> usually to thwart pirating stuff
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#2700 [22:28] <Jackson413> guys my dad fucking works for time warner
#2701 [22:28] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: yay, your dad works for Time-Warner. Do you get a free copy of everyhting intheir back-catalog? Why should you expect better service?
#2702 [22:28] <Jackson413> how is that possible
#2703 [22:29] <dopeghoti> If I worked for Boeing, I wouln't get a free 787 in my parking lot
#2704 [22:29] <Kealper> because time warner apparently sucks?
#2705 [22:29] <dopeghoti> get over yourself.
#2706 [22:29] <Jackson413> i guess so
#2707 [22:29] <the_late_man> every single computer I have had has had sucky internet, yet all other machines in the house are great...
#2708 [22:29] <Jackson413> im pissed
#2709 [22:29] <Kealper> dopeghoti: a 787 would be pretty epic
#2710 [22:29] <Jackson413> imma check another comp just for the hel of it
#2711 [22:29] <Kealper> mood lights....on a friggin superliner jet...how is that not awesome? lol
#2712 [22:29] <Jackson413> brb
#2713 [22:29] <dopeghoti> Kealper: you could rent it out as a centiplex :)
#2714 [22:30] <the_late_man> ima close down all inets and test my speed
#2715 [22:30] <Kealper> why irc
#2716 [22:30] <Kealper> that literally uses like 1kbit/s
#2717 [22:30] <Kealper> or less
#2718 [22:31] <Kealper> i like how my email button on my keyboard will give focus to Thunderbird when i press it
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#2720 [22:32] <aetherian> hey people in the know
#2721 [22:32] <Kealper> aetherian: got access to your router?
#2722 [22:32] <aetherian> uh, I guess
#2723 [22:32] <aetherian> I figured out my dads pass when he failed at portforwarding the thing
#2724 [22:32] <aetherian> but uh
#2725 [22:32] <Jackson413> my dads comp gets 2 mbs upload
#2726 [22:33] <dopeghoti> Good for your dad
#2727 [22:33] <Jackson413> wtf
#2728 [22:33] <Kealper> they will usually have a list of dhcp clients that they are managing, you could check if anyone is stealing your internet that way
#2729 [22:33] <aetherian> with http://www.speedtest.net/result/1126426928.png and 4 gig ram, how many people do you think I could host for a nondedicated MC server?
#2730 [22:33] <Kealper> Jackson413: is your computer on wireless
#2731 [22:33] <Jackson413> where can i find that?
#2732 [22:33] <aetherian> 4gigram+intel i7 something something
#2733 [22:33] <Jackson413> no
#2734 [22:33] <dopeghoti> "nondedicated" as in VPS?
#2735 [22:33] <Kealper> as in home server i would assume
#2736 [22:33] <Kealper> or....hosting it off his computer?
#2737 [22:33] <aetherian> "nondedicated" as in a home pc
#2738 [22:34] <aetherian> like, just an everyday pc
#2739 [22:34] <aetherian> :D
#2740 [22:34] <dopeghoti> spose that depends on what else it would be nondedicated to doing all day
#2741 [22:34] <Jackson413> im confused
#2742 [22:34] <aetherian> my friends really want it, so I gotta know
#2743 [22:34] <Kealper> how many friends?
#2744 [22:34] <Jackson413> do you think having a 7 year old router could contribute to this?
#2745 [22:34] <aetherian> 4-5
#2746 [22:34] <aetherian> +
#2747 [22:35] <Kealper> Jackson413: probably not, mine is ancient too
#2748 [22:35] <Jackson413> possible 8
#2749 [22:35] <Jackson413> SHIT
#2750 [22:35] <dopeghoti> aetherian: that should be fine
#2751 [22:35] <Kealper> aetherian: maybe.....but you could not be using the internet for other things if they were all on it, or they might lag
#2752 [22:35] <aetherian> mmk, and do you think I could join them on the same pc?
#2753 [22:35] <aetherian> oh
#2754 [22:35] <Kealper> probably
#2755 [22:35] <aetherian> mmk
#2756 [22:35] <aetherian> oh
#2757 [22:35] <aetherian> wait
#2758 [22:35] <dopeghoti> aetherian: same PC? Questionable
#2759 [22:35] <Jackson413> kealper wanna host a server?
#2760 [22:35] <Kealper> so....no torrenting when they are playing on it
#2761 [22:35] <Kealper> Jackson413: i already host my own
#2762 [22:36] <dopeghoti> I host plenty of folk on a one-core 2.2GHz machine
#2763 [22:36] <Jackson413> damn
#2764 [22:36] <dopeghoti> and the server's fine even when others are NetFlixing or whatever
#2765 [22:36] <Jackson413> i would pay
#2766 [22:36] <aetherian> and would people on the same router/thing doing regular internet stuff really affect it?
#2767 [22:36] <dopeghoti> aetherian: it really depends
#2768 [22:36] <dopeghoti> for example, my server _is_ my router
#2769 [22:36] <AndrewPH> Jackson413, you would probably be better off buying a vps
#2770 [22:37] <Jackson413> im not even sure what a vps is
#2771 [22:37] <aetherian> like, other people in the same house.
#2772 [22:37] <dopeghoti> so it gives itslef highest prioirity (:
#2773 [22:37] <aetherian> not downloading gay porn.
#2774 [22:37] <aetherian> big effect?
#2775 [22:37] <dopeghoti> How would the type of porn make any difference?
#2776 [22:38] <aetherian> ...
#2777 [22:38] <aetherian> it's a joke...
#2778 [22:38] <aetherian> ...
#2779 [22:38] <aetherian> dotdotdot
#2780 [22:38] <dopeghoti> elipsis
#2781 [22:38] <dopeghoti> so was what I said
#2782 [22:39] <aetherian> would internet go any faster plugging into the wall with ethernet or whatever that thing is called?
#2783 [22:39] <aetherian> or does that also "just depend"\
#2784 [22:39] <dopeghoti> it'd go faster by first learning the terminology :)
#2785 [22:39] <aetherian> hurr hurr
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#2787 [22:40] <Jackson413> what is a vps?
#2788 [22:40] <aetherian> I thought it was called an ethernet cable...
#2789 [22:40] <Jackson413> i have no idea what that is?
#2790 [22:40] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: same thing as a VDS
#2791 [22:40] <Jackson413> what is a vds then
#2792 [22:40] <aetherian> dopeghoti: quit being a wiseass
#2793 [22:40] <Jackson413> im a noob in this department
#2794 [22:40] <aetherian> help the poor guy out
#2795 [22:40] <dopeghoti> A virtualized server
#2796 [22:40] <Jackson413> do i have to rent it?
#2797 [22:40] <dopeghoti> aetherian: it beats being a dumbass ;)
#2798 [22:40] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: generally, yes
#2799 [22:40] <Jackson413> SHIT
#2800 [22:41] <Jackson413> i hate renting shit
#2801 [22:41] <Jackson413> i am so fucking pissed
#2802 [22:41] <dopeghoti> Well, you can sometimes lease them too
#2803 [22:41] <aetherian> .....
#2804 [22:41] <aetherian> heh
#2805 [22:41] <AndrewPH> And sometimes you can pay cash monthly to the owner of a vps hosting company
#2806 [22:41] <Jackson413> how much?
#2807 [22:42] <aetherian> so dopefish, and answers on my question?
#2808 [22:42] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: anywhere from $3 to $100, YMMV, YGWYPF
#2809 [22:42] <aetherian> as to wether on not plugging the thing into the WALL would make any difference
#2810 [22:42] <dopeghoti> aetherian: Ethernet is generally faster and more reliable than wireless, if that's what you were asking
#2811 [22:43] <Jackson413> can someone refer me to one that they personally approve of?
#2812 [22:43] <aetherian> mmk
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#2814 [22:43] <dopeghoti> I had good experiences wich fsckvps.com
#2815 [22:43] <dopeghoti> not sire if they're still around though
#2816 [22:44] <Jackson413> will they host my minecraft?
#2817 [22:44] <dopeghoti> If you put it there.
#2818 [22:44] <aetherian> hey dope, it's time for an idiotic question :D yay :D
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#2822 [22:45] <aetherian> once you rent a server/part of a server, how do you get it to play minecraft?
#2823 [22:45] <Jackson413> is 384mb good for a vps?
#2824 [22:45] <aetherian> yay for bad questions
#2825 [22:45] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: not if you want to run Minecraft, it's not.
#2826 [22:45] <dopeghoti> Minecraft requires at least 1 GiB, plus headroom for the OS itself.
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#2828 [22:46] <aetherian> dope, my question...
#2829 [22:46] <Jackson413> is there a place that i can just get a minecraft server?
#2830 [22:46] <Jackson413> things that are specialized for minecraft?
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#2832 [22:47] <mikeambrose3> Guys can anyone answer a question ?
#2833 [22:47] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: aetherian: It depends upon from whence you acquire the server. There are some minecraft-specific hosts, others are totally unmanaged
#2834 [22:47] <dopeghoti> the latter tend to be less expensive.
#2835 [22:47] <aetherian> nonono, like,
#2836 [22:47] <aetherian> in an unmanaged or whatever
#2837 [22:47] <Jackson413> can you find me one that an idiot can afford?
#2838 [22:47] <mikeambrose3> If I buy a beta account, do I get updates? I host a small server and I plan to make it larger. But i need a way to get updates to keep my server going.
#2839 [22:47] <aetherian> how do you get it to do mc
#2840 [22:47] <aetherian> mike:yes
#2841 [22:47] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: sure, there are some very wealthy idiots
#2842 [22:47] <aetherian> until release
#2843 [22:48] <Jackson413> i mean a poor idiot though
#2844 [22:48] <dopeghoti> mikeambrose3: you will get updates 'till release, plus big fixes afterwards.
#2845 [22:48] <dopeghoti> !server
#2846 [22:48] <dopeghoti> aetherian: ^
#2847 [22:48] <mikeambrose3> Ok.
#2848 [22:48] <dopeghoti> aetherian: that is a good place to start
#2849 [22:48] <Jackson413> something that is deemed approprite for minecraft
#2850 [22:48] <aetherian> ........................
#2851 [22:48] <aetherian> I bloody well know that
#2852 [22:48] <aetherian> oh nevermind
#2853 [22:49] <aetherian> basically
#2854 [22:49] <aetherian> is it run the same as if it is on the home pc, just elsewhere?
#2855 [22:49] <dopeghoti> aetherian: what OS is this home PC running? Windows I take it?
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#2857 [22:50] <Jackson413> i http://vpsnoc.com/Unmanaged_VPS.html
#2858 [22:51] <Jackson413> lmao
#2859 [22:51] <aetherian> !ping
#2860 [22:51] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.32 Seconds.
#2861 [22:51] <Jackson413> !ping
#2862 [22:51] <GreyBot> Jackson413 Your Ping time was 0.481 Seconds.
#2863 [22:51] <Jackson413> lol
#2864 [22:51] <Jackson413> http://vpsnoc.com/Unmanaged_VPS.html which one is good for 15 minecraft players?
#2865 [22:52] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: At least "Diamond"
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#2867 [22:52] <Jackson413> shit
#2868 [22:52] <Jackson413> are you serious
#2869 [22:52] <Jackson413> i dont hav that kind of money
#2870 [22:52] <dopeghoti> You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
#2871 [22:52] <Jackson413> i am pissed
#2872 [22:52] <aetherian> which word
#2873 [22:53] <Jackson413> i dont know
#2874 [22:53] <dopeghoti> aetherian: "shit".
#2875 [22:53] <aetherian> oh
#2876 [22:53] <aetherian> kay
#2877 [22:53] <Jackson413> im gonna go kill someone
#2878 [22:53] <Jackson413> lol
#2879 [22:53] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: that certainly sounds like a reasonable reaction.
#2880 [22:53] <Jackson413> lol
#2881 [22:53] <Jackson413> how many people could gold support?
#2882 [22:53] <dopeghoti> Zero.
#2883 [22:53] <dopeghoti> Again
#2884 [22:54] <dopeghoti> Minecraft requires 1 GiB for itself, plus overhead for the OS
#2885 [22:54] <dopeghoti> So technically it would run, but it would run like, as you would probably say, shit.
#2886 [22:54] <Jackson413> im so pissed
#2887 [22:55] <Jackson413> minecraft is so expensive
#2888 [22:55] <Jackson413> cial?
#2889 [22:55] <dopeghoti> Expensive It's under €20.
#2890 [22:55] <Jackson413> hmm?
#2891 [22:55] <Jackson413> hostingwise
#2892 [22:55] <dopeghoti> It's costing me $0.00 to host is because I know what I'm doing.
#2893 [22:56] <jobotslash> Though it's not required that you host your own server, either.
#2894 [22:56] <AndrewPH> Jackson413, imo stop complaining and just don't host if you don't like the prices
#2895 [22:56] <Jackson413> I WANT TO HOST MY OWN SERVER
#2896 [22:56] <Jackson413> caps
#2897 [22:56] <Jackson413> lol
#2898 [22:56] <aetherian> jackson you bum
#2899 [22:56] <aetherian> get a job
#2900 [22:56] <Jackson413> i cant
#2901 [22:56] <Jackson413> lol
#2902 [22:56] <dopeghoti> But I'm not about to use #MineCraftHelp as a platform to installing your own OS, setting up a firewall and IP masquerading, and hosting Minecraft thereupon
#2903 [22:56] <Jackson413> im taking 4 ap classes
#2904 [22:56] <aetherian> so?
#2905 [22:57] <Jackson413> i have a 4.5 gpa
#2906 [22:57] <dopeghoti> Well, once you have graduated and realize that your four AP classes don't get you any more noticed than a GED; _then_ get a job.
#2907 [22:57] <aetherian> COOL STORY BRO
#2908 [22:57] <aetherian> sorry caps
#2909 [22:57] <Jackson413> dude
#2910 [22:57] <jobotslash> oh pshaw, go to colege fulltime (only one online course) and hold a 40 hr/week retail job during christmas, then talk to me.
#2911 [22:57] <clone1018> lol
#2912 [22:57] <jobotslash> college*
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#2914 [22:57] <dopeghoti> jobotslash: no touch typing courses apparently? ;)
#2915 [22:57] <Jackson413> i know a guy that worked an 80 hour wek
#2916 [22:58] <Jackson413> week
#2917 [22:58] <jobotslash> =P one mistype
#2918 [22:58] <Jackson413> with schoo;
#2919 [22:58] <Jackson413> school
#2920 [22:58] <jobotslash> not helping your argument, jackson
#2921 [22:58] <Jackson413> lol
#2922 [22:58] <Jackson413> i know
#2923 [22:58] <Jackson413> i give up
#2924 [22:58] <clone1018> Good
#2925 [22:58] <clone1018> Bye
#2926 [22:58] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: I imagine that one guy doesn't go by 'Jackson413' on the InterTubes.
#2927 [22:58] <Jackson413> ill just stick with homehosting
#2928 [22:59] <Jackson413> i cant see the tears in my eyes are blinding me
#2929 [22:59] <AndrewPH> Jackson413, Don't home host, that's something minecraft needs less of.
#2930 [22:59] <dopeghoti> Jeepers
#2931 [22:59] * aetherian punches jack so hard it knocks the tears out of him
#2931 [22:59] <AndrewPH> Like literally don't
#2932 [22:59] <dopeghoti> What are you taking four AP classes in? Third grade?
#2933 [22:59] <Jackson413> andrew i dont know what do do
#2934 [22:59] <Jackson413> ap euro
#2935 [22:59] <AndrewPH> Jackson413, how about don't home host that's an idea
#2936 [22:59] <Jackson413> ap computer scrience
#2937 [23:00] <aetherian> andrew, how about don't flamebait
#2938 [23:00] <dopeghoti> scrience? Is that the future of computers?
#2939 [23:00] <aetherian> :O
#2940 [23:00] <aetherian> no
#2941 [23:00] <Jackson413> ap literature
#2942 [23:00] <aetherian> it's asian
#2943 [23:00] <Jackson413> ap biology
#2944 [23:00] <aetherian> cool story bra
#2945 [23:00] <Jackson413> and ap spanish 4
#2946 [23:00] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: you might want to add AP Economics
#2947 [23:00] <Jackson413> but that doesnt really count
#2948 [23:00] <dopeghoti> then you'll understand how to afford hosting a server.
#2949 [23:01] <aetherian> heh
#2950 [23:01] <Jackson413> cause you cant take a non spanish 4
#2951 [23:01] <aetherian> I'm going to be taking my first macroeconomics class this friday
#2952 [23:01] <dopeghoti> Sure I could; I took German IV
#2953 [23:01] <Jackson413> fikken
#2954 [23:01] * aetherian is away: videos
#2954 [23:01] <Jackson413> lol
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#2956 [23:01] <dopeghoti> There's a joke in there about how hard it was without having taken I, II, and III, but it doesn't apply to me.
#2957 [23:02] <Jackson413> you didnt take 1,2, or 3??????
#2958 [23:02] <Jackson413> how?
#2959 [23:02] <aetherian> heh
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#2961 [23:02] <jobotslash> The great thing about courses with so many prerequisites is your classes tend to be smaller, or ended up being smaller by the end of the semester =)
#2962 [23:03] <Jackson413> ugh
#2963 [23:03] * dopeghoti takes out a laser pointer, and repeatedly circles the bit where I typed ", but it doesn't apply to me".
#2963 [23:03] <clone1018> Jackson413 what grade are you in?
#2964 [23:03] <Jackson413> 11
#2965 [23:03] <jobotslash> and a half
#2966 [23:03] <Jackson413> ok
#2967 [23:03] <Jackson413> 11 1/2
#2968 [23:03] <jobotslash> =)
#2969 [23:03] <Jackson413> lol
#2970 [23:03] <dopeghoti> you're (around) seventeen, and still counting things in half-years. And not getting free stuff brings you to tears.
#2971 [23:04] <Jackson413> 16
#2972 [23:04] <dopeghoti> I, too, weep. I weep for the future of mankind.
#2973 [23:04] <clone1018> dopeghoti don't be mean :(
#2974 [23:04] <AndrewPH> "I'm not getting stuff for free waaaah waaaaah"
#2975 [23:04] <Jackson413> im just pissed
#2976 [23:04] <Jackson413> and sad
#2977 [23:04] <clone1018> Taking AP classes doesn't make you cool
#2978 [23:04] <dopeghoti> Sorry, I get cynical on Mondays.
#2979 [23:04] <AndrewPH> why are you sad and pissed, nobody's obligated to give you free stuff
#2980 [23:04] <clone1018> Nor does it make you smart
#2981 [23:04] <jobotslash> dopeghoti is so good at it though, why deny the pleasure? =D
#2982 [23:04] <Jackson413> lolol
#2983 [23:04] <Jackson413> ap classes gets me into college
#2984 [23:04] <jobotslash> somebody has a case of the mondays!
#2985 [23:04] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: no, paying tuition gets you into college.
#2986 [23:05] <clone1018> Brains get me into college
#2987 [23:05] <aetherian> nooo
#2988 [23:05] <clone1018> Not taking a extra workload class
#2989 [23:05] <clone1018> an
#2990 [23:05] <Jackson413> dopeghoti no getting a full scholarship gets you into college
#2991 [23:05] <dopeghoti> Taking AP courses justifies guidance councellors' salaries.
#2992 [23:05] <Jackson413> i cant even understand what that means at this late date
#2993 [23:05] <dopeghoti> Anyhow, this is neither here not rhere.
#2994 [23:05] <dopeghoti> (again: AP Economics)
#2995 [23:06] <Jackson413> dope you said you had a server?
#2996 [23:06] <Jackson413> can ic?
#2997 [23:06] <dopeghoti> Have.
#2998 [23:06] <Jackson413> have a server then
#2999 [23:06] <dopeghoti> And no, it's semiprivate and only open to members of a certain community of which I am a member.
#3000 [23:06] <Jackson413> :'(
#3001 [23:07] <dopeghoti> Is it for this reason it's grief-free.
#3002 [23:07] <Jackson413> i dont grief
#3003 [23:07] <dopeghoti> erm "It is for" rather.
#3004 [23:07] <dopeghoti> I'm not saying you do.
#3005 [23:07] <Jackson413> i like to bust griefers instead
#3006 [23:07] <clone1018> OKay guys
#3007 [23:07] <Jackson413> lol
#3008 [23:07] <dopeghoti> I'm just saying that, as mentioned, it's semiprivate and only open to members of a certain community of which I am a member.
#3009 [23:07] <clone1018> Lets play the Guess how old Jackson413 really is game
#3010 [23:07] <jobotslash> xales likes this game =)
#3011 [23:08] <Jackson413> clone dont
#3012 [23:08] <Jackson413> not even remotely funny
#3013 [23:08] <clone1018> I'm guessing 11
#3014 [23:08] <clone1018> Male
#3015 [23:08] <Jackson413> fuck you
#3016 [23:08] <clone1018> Brown hair
#3017 [23:08] <Kade> spotty?
#3018 [23:08] <clone1018> Kinda skinny
#3019 [23:08] <Kade> I was going to guess slightly overweight
#3020 [23:08] <clone1018> Na.
#3021 [23:08] <Jackson413> not slightly overweight
#3022 [23:08] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: that sort of language is not welcome here.
#3023 [23:08] <Jackson413> ugh
#3024 [23:08] <clone1018> Most internet trolls are surprisingly slim
#3025 [23:08] <Jackson413> sorry
#3026 [23:09] <dopeghoti> Let's keep this.. shall we say PG-13?
#3027 [23:09] <clone1018> So what exactly do you want Jackson413?
#3028 [23:09] <Jackson413> lol
#3029 [23:09] <jobotslash> how old? this has turned into a "are you sure I'm not looking in your window right now?" mindgame
#3030 [23:09] <Jackson413> 16
#3031 [23:09] <clone1018> If you're here to troll can you please try a little harder.
#3032 [23:09] <Jackson413> brown hair
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#3034 [23:09] <Jackson413> 5' 6""
#3035 [23:09] <Jackson413> 120 lbs
#3036 [23:09] <clone1018> semi chubby
#3037 [23:09] <jobotslash> a scar above his right eye, but it has a lot less interesting story than you might think
#3038 [23:10] <dopeghoti> Your weight and height are irrelevant
#3039 [23:10] <clone1018> Harry Potter
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#3041 [23:10] <Jackson413> yes clone i am harry potter
#3042 [23:10] <Jackson413> how did you know?
#3043 [23:10] <clone1018> k
#3044 [23:10] <jobotslash> he might use the sargento spell
#3045 [23:10] <jobotslash> and turn you into cheese
#3046 [23:10] <Jackson413> hehe
#3047 [23:11] <dopeghoti> Wow, fictional characters come to life and.. kvetch about parents working for Time-Warner on IRC?
#3048 [23:11] <clone1018> kvetch?
#3049 [23:11] <dopeghoti> Haaay, you're not Harry Potter- his dad is dead!
#3050 [23:11] <Jackson413> damn you caught me so im not harry potter so who am i
#3051 [23:12] <Jackson413> i gtg yal
#3052 [23:12] <clone1018> kbai
#3053 [23:12] <jobotslash> He's actually Roy G. Biv
#3054 [23:12] <Jackson413> i need to get up at 6
#3055 [23:12] <dopeghoti> jobotslash: he is not a spectrum.
#3056 [23:12] <clone1018> To go to your ap classes
#3057 [23:12] <Jackson413> no
#3058 [23:12] <dopeghoti> "AP classes don't start 'till 10."
#3059 [23:12] <Jackson413> my zero period jazz band class
#3060 [23:12] <Jackson413> cya
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#3062 [23:13] <AndrewPH> ragequit
#3063 [23:13] <dopeghoti> more like sadquit.
#3064 [23:13] <AndrewPH> derppart
#3065 [23:13] <clone1018> zero period?
#3066 [23:13] <jobotslash> AndrewPH: I lol'd.
#3067 [23:13] <clone1018> The shit is that
#3068 [23:14] <dopeghoti> 'Oh yeah, well in my negative-one period I took "driving to school" class!'
#3069 [23:14] <AndrewPH> Does time warner own RR or something?
#3070 [23:14] <dopeghoti> jazz-band may have been air-drumming along with his free iPod
#3071 [23:14] <clone1018> Yes
#3072 [23:15] <dopeghoti> didIsayiPodclearlyImenatiPadbecausehisdadworksforTimeWarnerdonchaknow
#3073 [23:15] <dopeghoti> Wow, some people really do use Miranda for IRC
#3074 [23:16] <dopeghoti> Miranda is great and all, but wow.
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#3076 [23:17] <clone1018> FFFFF
#3077 [23:17] <clone1018> What other options do I add
#3078 [23:17] <clone1018> http://ahcp.axxim.net/index.php/manage/websites/add
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#3080 [23:20] <lefedy> Anyone running their own server on Linux?
#3081 [23:20] <SinZ> yes..
#3082 [23:20] <clone1018> I am
#3083 [23:20] <SinZ> who doesn't use linux to host stuff
#3084 [23:20] <lefedy> Nice. How hard is it to setup? Do I need to purchase the game to play on my own server? I just found out about this game yesterday. I think I will like it.
#3085 [23:21] <lefedy> SinZ: haha true
#3086 [23:21] <clone1018> Yes you have to buy it
#3087 [23:21] <SinZ> for beta, yes
#3088 [23:21] <SinZ> for creative, no
#3089 [23:21] <clone1018> Not to run the server. But to play on it
#3090 [23:21] <OODavo> Yes, to play on it.
#3091 [23:21] <OODavo> You can run it without purchase.
#3092 [23:21] <lefedy> I don't really understand the game yet.
#3093 [23:21] <SinZ> anyone can host tho
#3094 [23:21] <lefedy> I want to try it for free before I pay.
#3095 [23:21] <SinZ> but only paid people can play
#3096 [23:22] <lefedy> Thanks for the confirmation on hosting.
#3097 [23:22] <OODavo> lefedy: Play some Classic first?
#3098 [23:22] <OODavo> Not really the same, though.
#3099 [23:22] <lefedy> OODavo: that's what I was afraid of.
#3100 [23:22] <lefedy> Is there a story line?
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#3102 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> No lefedy.
#3103 [23:22] <lefedy> GOOD!
#3104 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is what you make of it
#3105 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> There is no set goal, there is no storyline
#3106 [23:23] <lefedy> That is what I picutred
#3107 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> If you want to just have minecraft be legos, it can be legos.
#3108 [23:23] <SinZ> well
#3109 [23:23] <lefedy> So you can basically build things and dig and manipulate the landscape however you please?
#3110 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> If you want to build massive structures, or just a little hut, it can be that
#3111 [23:23] <SinZ> beta you gotta mine the lego blocks first
#3112 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> If you want to be a zombie horror survival, it can be that as well
#3113 [23:23] <OODavo> If you like playing Classic then Minecraft is definitely the game for oyu.
#3114 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> It's really all in what you want out of it.
#3115 [23:23] <OODavo> s/oyu/you/
#3116 [23:24] <dopeghoti> Minecraft: SimCity with Legos. And Zombies. Only, no budgeting, or zoning.
#3117 [23:24] <SinZ> minecraft is your imagination
#3118 [23:24] <dopeghoti> And more building
#3119 [23:24] <lefedy> Nice.
#3120 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> You can turn off monsters if you wish.
#3121 [23:24] <OODavo> Although it's more interesting with the monsters on.
#3122 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> All depends on a person's preference.
#3123 [23:24] <lefedy> So if I purchase it can I also run it on linux and OSX or do I have to purchase for both?
#3124 [23:24] <SinZ> but it takes too much time off doing good building if you have mobs on
#3125 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> lefedy - Once you purchase it, you can play it on any machine
#3126 [23:25] <SinZ> nah you buy the account
#3127 [23:25] <lefedy> ah ic
#3128 [23:25] <OODavo> lefedy: You can play it on any platform once bought.
#3129 [23:25] <lefedy> Hmmm...
#3130 [23:25] <dopeghoti> I play on OSX, Linux, _and_ windows (:
#3131 [23:25] <SinZ> on any platform on any computer
#3132 [23:25] <dopeghoti> one of the few advantages of it being Java
#3133 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> (that supports java)
#3134 [23:25] <OODavo> dopeghoti: Indeed. :)
#3135 [23:25] <lefedy> I need to lookup sys requirements.
#3136 [23:25] <SinZ> no written sys requirements for minecraft
#3137 [23:25] <SinZ> due to it changes alot
#3138 [23:25] <lefedy> Thank you guys... answered my mains questions instantly!!!
#3139 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> There are really no minimum system requirements, minecraft goes through a lot of revisions
#3140 [23:26] <lefedy> oh!
#3141 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> Still a beta
#3142 [23:26] <dopeghoti> lefedy: _really_ good video card, at least around a 2 GHz CPU, and probably 2GB of RAM for a client machine
#3143 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> All you really need at the very least is a video card that supports OpenGL 1.3 or 1.4
#3144 [23:26] <lefedy> okay, I need to get my other machine going.
#3145 [23:26] <lefedy> Need to buy RAM.
#3146 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> That'll run minecraft at a render distance of tiny.
#3147 [23:27] <SinZ> you need a video card that suports pixel format or something
#3148 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> OpenGL 1.3
#3149 [23:27] <OODavo> You really want a powerful enough system to run it on fancy/far, though.
#3150 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Nah, just any computer of the latter part of this decade.
#3151 [23:27] <SinZ> i play on far, but i get around 10-30fps
#3152 [23:28] <SinZ> at school, about 10% of computers work for minecraft
#3153 [23:28] <lefedy> Will be installing debian on a pretty good system soon. I have an old toughbook that I am on now. Not enough processing power
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#3155 [23:28] <dopeghoti> I"m getting 120FPS right now on Fancy/Far
#3156 [23:28] <SinZ> i get that for classic
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#3158 [23:29] <aetherian> dopeghoti: not all of us can be rich bastards like you
#3159 [23:29] <lefedy> 3d Gaming has changed things quite a bit.
#3160 [23:29] <aetherian> omigod stupid song stuck in my head
#3161 [23:29] <dopeghoti> aetherian: "rich" *snrk
#3162 [23:29] <DriverMike> I got a problem with a gift code. I orderred it on Friday and i've never received it
#3163 [23:29] <aetherian> the key word was bastard.
#3164 [23:29] <dopeghoti> I saved for six months to build this thing; the one it replaced was an Athlon 1400
#3165 [23:29] <dopeghoti> And yes, my parents were unmarried; what of it?
#3166 [23:30] <aetherian> oh nothing, in fact, I'm a fan of a certain bastard
#3167 [23:30] <SinZ> heh same dopeghoti
#3168 [23:30] <aetherian> leonardo da vinci
#3169 [23:30] <SinZ> leonardo da vinci is epic in assassins creed =P
#3170 [23:30] <aetherian> hey, anyone know any good way to get a song out of ones head?
#3171 [23:30] <dopeghoti> Sure do
#3172 [23:30] <DriverMike> a hammer
#3173 [23:30] <lefedy> A bullet
#3174 [23:30] <SinZ> replace it with a dif song
#3175 [23:30] <AndrewPH> bleach
#3176 [23:30] <dopeghoti> ./~ It's a world of laughter, a world of tears.. ./~
#3177 [23:30] <Koi> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/us/23cnceavesdropping.html?_r=1
#3178 [23:31] <Koi> sick article
#3179 [23:31] <aetherian> 'cause I got pacman fever *pacman fever* and it's driving me crazy *driving me crazy*
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#3181 [23:31] <DriverMike> can anyone here advise on what to do about a missing gift code?
#3182 [23:31] <SinZ> talk to mojang
#3183 [23:31] <dopeghoti> DriverMike: email payments@mojang.com
#3184 [23:31] <SinZ> email payements-
#3185 [23:31] <DriverMike> been tryin, haven't got a resposnse from emails
#3186 [23:31] * GreyVulpine shakes, recommends daniel@mojang.com more
#3186 [23:31] <DriverMike> been 4 days
#3187 [23:32] <lefedy> http://unhearit.com
#3188 [23:32] <lefedy> checkit out ^ gets songs out of your head.
#3189 [23:32] <dopeghoti> DriverMike: they've been busy with a recent server problem over the weekend, give them time to work trhough the backlog
#3190 [23:32] <SinZ> heh, i waited a month for a good responce of my brute forced account =P
#3191 [23:32] <dopeghoti> ProTip: 'password' does not a good password make
#3192 [23:32] <SinZ> i know, it was simpler then password
#3193 [23:32] <DriverMike> P@ssw0rd tho, that one is awesome
#3194 [23:32] <lefedy> pa22w0rd is a good one
#3195 [23:33] <SinZ> eh
#3196 [23:33] <dopeghoti> if it was simpler thatn 'password', it wasn't even brue-forced
#3197 [23:33] <lefedy> or your birthday is awesome
#3198 [23:33] <SinZ> its p@$$vv0rd for a good password
#3199 [23:33] <SinZ> =P
#3200 [23:33] <DriverMike> 12345
#3201 [23:33] <SinZ> hmm
#3202 [23:33] <SinZ> ima change my nickserv pass
#3203 [23:33] <SinZ> then say it
#3204 [23:33] <aetherian> omigod lefedy
#3205 [23:33] <aetherian> that just raped my ear
#3206 [23:33] <aetherian> hell no
#3207 [23:34] <aetherian> my song was better
#3208 [23:34] <SinZ> aaaaaa is the best password ever
#3209 [23:34] * lefedy tries logging into SinZ account using p@$$vvord
#3209 [23:34] <dopeghoti> 3df1b8416d8f4447eec3b0b99737399b
#3210 [23:34] <aetherian> and that may be saying something...
#3211 [23:34] <dopeghoti> ^good password.
#3212 [23:34] <aetherian> 12345 is a bad password!
#3213 [23:34] <dopeghoti> (and also not one I actually use)
#3214 [23:34] <dopeghoti> aetherian: it's a great password for my luggage.
#3215 [23:34] <lefedy> aetherian: haha
#3216 [23:34] * dopeghoti goes to the movies now. Ciao
#3216 [23:34] <lefedy> aetherian: hope there wasn't penetration
#3217 [23:34] * mib_r2q0vp [mib_r2q0vp@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3218 [23:35] <mib_r2q0vp> can someone help me with server config right quick?
#3219 [23:35] <SinZ> aaaaaa is the best password ever
#3220 [23:35] <mib_r2q0vp> all i need to know is how to change it so you can build
#3221 [23:35] <mib_r2q0vp> which config file is it
#3222 [23:35] <lefedy> Well all, thanks for the info on the game! I cannot wait to get my RAM now. I will be playing soon.
#3223 [23:35] <SinZ> minimun ram would be 512 tho
#3224 [23:36] <lefedy> I am getting as much as I can1
#3225 [23:36] <mib_r2q0vp> can anyone help with server setup, just a few simple questions
#3226 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> mib_r2q0vp - Ask away
#3227 [23:36] <lefedy> okay guys help mib_r2q0vp out
#3228 [23:36] <lefedy> bye!
#3229 [23:36] <mib_r2q0vp> i just need to know where to change the calues on making so u can build in the server
#3230 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#3231 [23:36] <mib_r2q0vp> values*
#3232 [23:36] <dopeghoti> mib_r2q0vp: in ops.txt, add yourself.
#3233 [23:36] <mib_r2q0vp> i made my server, but u cant build anything
#3234 [23:37] <mib_r2q0vp> u cant gather resources
#3235 [23:37] <mib_r2q0vp> ok
#3236 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Did you move away from the spawn point?
#3237 [23:37] <mib_r2q0vp> i took a few steps
#3238 [23:37] <SinZ> there is a 16x16 forcefield around spawn
#3239 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Try moving further away
#3240 [23:37] <dopeghoti> mib_r2q0vp: in ops.txt, add yourself to the ops list.
#3241 [23:38] <mib_r2q0vp> ok lemme try again right quick
#3242 [23:38] <mib_r2q0vp> will do dope
#3243 [23:38] <SinZ> but, if you do want to build in spawn
#3244 [23:38] <SinZ> ops.txt lets you
#3245 [23:38] <SinZ> along with some commands
#3246 [23:38] <SinZ> that you can access with /help
#3247 [23:38] <SinZ> same commands as console
#3248 [23:38] <mib_r2q0vp> works, thanks a lot guys
#3249 [23:38] <SinZ> Your Welcome
#3250 [23:38] <dopeghoti> that'll be £8.
#3251 [23:38] <mib_r2q0vp> put it on my tab
#3252 [23:39] <dopeghoti> okay
#3253 [23:39] * Hatsune-Miku [Hatsune-Miku@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3254 [23:39] * dopeghoti now _really_ goes away.
#3254 [23:40] <aetherian> lol y/r
#3255 [23:45] <clone1018> okay guys
#3256 [23:45] <clone1018> What do you think of these prices for shared hosting
#3257 [23:45] <clone1018> 1USD per GB of diskspace and 1USD per 25GB of bandwidth
#3258 [23:46] <lyude> I, know something better
#3259 [23:46] <lyude> But I don't know where my friend got it
#3260 [23:46] <lyude> He pays like $3 for unlimited BW/Space
#3261 [23:46] <clone1018> Well of course theres always something better
#3262 [23:46] <lyude> He's basically the god of price finding
#3263 [23:46] <lyude> $3/month
#3264 [23:46] <clone1018> Thats bullshit lol. Unlimited doesn't exist
#3265 [23:46] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3266 [23:46] <lyude> No, I'm not kidding o-o
#3267 [23:46] <clone1018> No
#3268 [23:46] <clone1018> I know you're not
#3269 [23:46] <clone1018> But unlimited doesn't exist in the web hosting world
#3270 [23:46] <lyude> I've known this guy for years too :P
#3271 [23:47] <lyude> You'd be suprised
#3272 [23:47] <SinZ> clone1018,virtualy unlimited
#3273 [23:47] <lyude> I mean
#3274 [23:47] <clone1018> SinZ I bet I could hit "Unlimited" real fast
#3275 [23:47] <SinZ> basicly, if it gets close to getting filled, adds more
#3276 [23:47] <lyude> Of course if he like, hosts forty thousand TF2 servers he'd probably get called
#3277 [23:47] <lyude> So within sane limits
#3278 [23:47] <lyude> But yeah, he technically has unlimited bandwidth
#3279 [23:47] <SinZ> its possible to get unlimited bandwidth
#3280 [23:47] <clone1018> Ya
#3281 [23:47] <clone1018> But not disk space
#3282 [23:47] <clone1018> Anyways
#3283 [23:47] <lyude> Also, my ISP gives me unlimited bandwidth
#3284 [23:47] <clone1018> How are those prices?
#3285 [23:48] <SinZ> but hdd would be prob 2-3tb
#3286 [23:48] <lyude> Meh, I'd look for better
#3287 [23:48] <lyude> Wait, clone1018
#3288 [23:48] <clone1018> Thats what I'm offering lol
#3289 [23:48] <lyude> Look at linuxhosts... there's some site like that
#3290 [23:48] <lyude> I think that's where my friend-oh
#3291 [23:48] <clone1018> I'm starting a hosting company :|
#3292 [23:48] <lyude> aaaah
#3293 [23:48] <SinZ> do free small web hosting
#3294 [23:49] <clone1018> Also 2USD per GB of disk space I mean
#3295 [23:49] <clone1018> No
#3296 [23:49] <SinZ> like 1gb hdd
#3297 [23:49] <SinZ> or something
#3298 [23:49] <clone1018> Never
#3299 [23:49] <clone1018> Thats just stupid
#3300 [23:49] <lyude> I'd like to start a hosting company
#3301 [23:49] <lyude> The only problem is i don't have the money for a connection
#3302 [23:49] <SinZ> clone1018, I'm on a freewebhosting
#3303 [23:49] <lyude> My connection's already being raped by my server
#3304 [23:49] <clone1018> Free web hosters are retarded
#3305 [23:49] <clone1018> Allowing virtually anyone access to PHP
#3306 [23:49] <clone1018> :|
#3307 [23:49] <lyude> Freehostia /used/ to have awesome free web hosting
#3308 [23:50] <lyude> That was a lonnnng time ago though
#3309 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Excuse the spam.
#3310 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> !down minecraft.net
#3311 [23:50] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#3312 [23:50] <clone1018> ANyways. Free anything is not even being discussed.
#3313 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Sweet
#3314 [23:50] <OODavo> Who is this "GreyBot? :
#3315 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> !up google.com
#3316 [23:50] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://google.com is up.
#3317 [23:50] <OODavo> s/t\?/t"?/
#3318 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> It's my bot.
#3319 [23:51] <clone1018> !down blargh.axxim.net
#3320 [23:51] <GreyBot> clone1018: It's not just you! http://blargh.axxim.net looks down from here.
#3321 [23:51] <OODavo> Nice bot. :)
#3322 [23:51] <OODavo> Does it just do !downs?
#3323 [23:51] <clone1018> Nope
#3324 [23:51] * the_late_man [the_late_man@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3325 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3326 [23:51] <SinZ> !check mca.uk.to:80
#3327 [23:51] <SinZ> checks ports too
#3328 [23:52] <SinZ> oh, dif bot =S
#3329 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> :P
#3330 [23:52] <SinZ> !evil
#3331 [23:52] <GreyBot> If I ever became an evil overlord, number 101. I will not order my trusted lieutenant to kill the infant who is destined to overthrow me -- I'll do it myself.
#3332 [23:52] <OODavo> So what commands does GreyBot have?
#3333 [23:52] <SinZ> =D
#3334 [23:52] <OODavo> Oh, that's awesome.
#3335 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Waaaay too many for me to list
#3336 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> I've had greybot for a number of years
#3337 [23:52] <OODavo> Is there a page up with them already?
#3338 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> No.
#3339 [23:52] <OODavo> Darn.
#3340 [23:52] <SinZ> !evil
#3341 [23:52] <GreyBot> If I ever became an evil overlord, number 162. If I steal something very important to the hero, I will not put it on public display.
#3342 [23:52] * GreyVulpine stabs SinZ
#3342 [23:52] <SinZ> =P
#3343 [23:53] <SinZ> didn't see that one on the list
#3344 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> I try not to advertise greybot's commands, otherwise they get spammed
#3345 [23:53] <SinZ> like me =P
#3346 [23:53] <SinZ> !evil
#3347 [23:53] <GreyBot> If I ever became an evil overlord, number 21. I will hire a talented fashion designer to create original uniforms for my Legions of Terror, as opposed to some cheap knock-offs that make them look like Nazi stormtroopers, Roman footsoldiers, or savage Mongol hordes. All were eventually defeated and I want my troops to have a more positive mind-set.
#3348 [23:53] <OODavo> Is GreyBot a standard eggdrop?
#3349 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, I wish I was that good.
#3350 [23:53] <lyude> !evil
#3351 [23:53] <GreyBot> If I ever became an evil overlord, number 181. I will decree that all hay be shipped in tightly-packed bales. Any wagonload of loose hay attempting to pass through a checkpoint will be set on fire.
#3352 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> No, greybot has been with me ever since I started learning programming
#3353 [23:54] <lyude> Yes
#3354 [23:54] <lyude> I am awesome
#3355 [23:54] <SinZ> !evil
#3356 [23:54] <GreyBot> If I ever became an evil overlord, number 128. I will not employ robots as agents of destruction if there is any possible way that they can be re-programmed or if their battery packs are externally mounted and easily removable.
#3357 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> !part
#3358 [23:54] * GreyBot [GreyBot@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#3359 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Okay... enough with the !evil stuff
#3360 [23:54] <SinZ> noo0
#3361 [23:54] <SinZ> put him in my channel then
#3362 [23:54] <lyude> Sorry
#3363 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> The list is available online
#3364 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> It's an old list, from the 90s.
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#3366 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> I've got some games on greybot, including uno and ghost and such, as well as utilities like !weather
#3367 [23:56] <lyude> GreyVulpine, what language is he written in
#3368 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> mIRC scripting
#3369 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Yes, yes, I hear you laughing...
#3370 [23:56] <lyude> no
#3371 [23:56] <lyude> Actually
#3372 [23:56] <lyude> I started with mIRC scripting
#3373 [23:56] <lyude> I had a bot too
#3374 [23:57] <lyude> But... those times have since passed
#3375 [23:57] * GreyVulpine nods
#3375 [23:57] <lyude> I stopped doing scripting for like, forever
#3376 [23:57] <lyude> Now I'm starting again, but with C
#3377 [23:57] <lyude> I want to rewrite Riolu (the bot) in C
#3378 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Greybot never really was finished. I started college and went to c/c++
#3379 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> and never had the time to rewrite an eggdrop bot
#3380 [23:57] <lyude> Also
#3381 [23:57] <lyude> I fucking hate C strings
#3382 [23:57] <lyude> Just putting that out there
#3383 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#3384 [23:58] * GreyVulpine loves C++ style strings
#3384 [23:58] <lyude> I'm still learning C though
#3385 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> character arrays, never was a fan
#3386 [23:58] <lyude> Trying to write a fully functional caculator
#3387 [23:58] <lyude> It's... hard ;_;
#3388 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Oh? which type?
#3389 [23:58] <lyude> Like 1+1+(4*5)
#3390 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#3391 [23:59] <lyude> GreyVulpine, do I know you from somewhere?
#3392 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Probably not
#3393 [23:59] <lyude> That name reminds me of someone o-o
#3394 [23:59] <lyude> Idk who though
#3395 [23:59] <lyude> ...it may be anonymous up to his normal theivery
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#3397 [23:59] * GreyVulpine shrugs