#1 [00:00] * SinZ slaps GreyVulpine around a bit with a large frozen tuna
#1 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> For calculators, the easiest way to learn how to program, would be reverse polish notation
#2 [00:00] <SinZ> stop with that shruging
#3 [00:00] <lyude> ?
#4 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Gives you knowledge on stacks.
#5 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Instead of 3+4, it's (3) (4) (+)
#6 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> operand operand, operator
#7 [00:00] <lyude> Yeah, I know, it's hard to do though :P
#8 [00:00] <lyude> Well
#9 [00:01] <lyude> It's mostly the () that are hard, programming paranthesis is proving nearly impossible
#10 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Hard because it's not what you're used to, but it's easier to program
#11 [00:01] <SinZ> so.. greyvulpine, how did you get op
#12 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Been here since sept, helping people since I got an answer to a question I had
#13 [00:01] <lyude> can i haz op
#14 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Just stuck around, eventually made op
#15 [00:01] <lyude> lololol
#16 [00:01] <lyude> ...kidding
#17 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> I didn't register a nick until dec, because I didn't feel at all comfortable with esper's lack of a +x
#18 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Had to have Truewolves voice/op me everytime I d/c
#19 [00:03] <AndrewPH> I've been around since september
#20 [00:04] <AndrewPH> ...of last year
#21 [00:04] <lyude> brb
#22 [00:04] <AndrewPH> and by that
#23 [00:04] <AndrewPH> i mean a year ago
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#25 [00:04] <AndrewPH> 2009
#26 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow.
#27 [00:04] <AndrewPH> I'm a late 09er
#28 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> I came with the penny arcade crowd
#29 [00:04] <AndrewPH> I came with the facepunch crowd
#30 [00:10] <SinZ> i came with the hmm this games allright
#31 [00:11] <SinZ> iv been playing minecraft for a year in 5 days =P
#32 [00:11] <SinZ> 7*
#33 [00:11] <clone1018> How does this look? http://ahcp.axxim.net/index.php/manage/websites
#34 [00:12] <SinZ> howto use
#35 [00:12] <clone1018> Its just html right now
#36 [00:12] <clone1018> Nothing works
#37 [00:12] <clone1018> Just the design
#38 [00:12] <SinZ> nice 404
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#40 [00:13] <clone1018> What?
#41 [00:13] <clone1018> That page works for me
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#43 [00:14] <SinZ> for the dns and email
#44 [00:14] <clone1018> :|
#45 [00:14] <clone1018> Look at JUST http://ahcp.axxim.net/index.php/manage/websites
#46 [00:14] <SinZ> =P
#47 [00:14] <clone1018> The design. The table
#48 [00:14] <SinZ> its allright
#49 [00:14] <clone1018> etc
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#57 [00:47] <clone1018> How does http://ahcp.axxim.net/index.php/manage/websites (the table) look?
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#59 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> Okay, so far, planning on adding any other features?
#60 [00:52] <clone1018> Oh of course
#61 [00:52] <clone1018> I'm just getting the design all laid out
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#68 [01:09] <KillSpammer> Join #64pixels
#69 [01:09] <KillSpammer> Heh fail
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#72 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> !isup minecraft.net
#73 [01:13] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
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#82 [01:42] <GuluGulu> morning
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#85 [01:47] <aetherian> augh
#86 [01:47] <aetherian> I can't figure out how to make hidef packs work >.>
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#88 [01:47] <aetherian> but brb, moving lappy
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#90 [01:49] <aetherian> back
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#97 [02:08] <Geli> good morning
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#99 [02:10] <aetherian> good evening
#100 [02:12] <GuluGulu> morning
#101 [02:13] <GuluGulu> anyone wonna join my survival world for some cave exploration ? :)
#102 [02:13] <aetherian> sure :)
#103 [02:13] <aetherian> though I now have crummy inet
#104 [02:14] <GuluGulu> let me give u ip
#105 [02:14] * aetherian listens
#105 [02:15] <aetherian> why all the secrets man
#106 [02:15] <aetherian> !ping
#107 [02:15] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.22 Seconds.
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#109 [02:20] <aetherian> !ping
#110 [02:20] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.18 Seconds.
#111 [02:20] <aetherian> that's not righyt
#112 [02:20] <aetherian> stupid bot
#113 [02:20] * GreyBot bonks aetherian, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#113 [02:20] <AndrewPH> stupid bot
#114 [02:20] * GreyBot bonks AndrewPH, "Be nice to your bot master!"
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#115 [02:20] <GuluGulu> u can't tell by just a pink u need continues ping to check it
#116 [02:21] <aetherian> man, that aubot is really a stupid bot
#117 [02:21] * GreyBot bonks aetherian, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#117 [02:21] <aetherian> hehehe
#118 [02:21] <aetherian> nice AI
#119 [02:22] <aetherian> greyvulpine: add something to fix the calling aubot a stupid bot making grey knock you...
#120 [02:22] * GreyBot bonks aetherian, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#120 [02:22] <aetherian> oh wait
#121 [02:22] <aetherian> nevermind, it's got an AI
#122 [02:22] <aetherian> it's saying that aubot is the bot master
#123 [02:22] <aetherian> nevermind, go back to what you were doing, grey
#124 [02:25] <GuluGulu> omg how the heck did the skelly get in to my house with all doors closed
#125 [02:25] <GuluGulu> i geuss balconys are not that safe
#126 [02:25] <aetherian> it takes computer science III
#127 [02:25] <aetherian> it has 1337 h4xx0rz
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#130 [02:31] <Fantleas> Someone there? 0:
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#132 [02:32] <aetherian> no.
#133 [02:32] <aetherian> no
#134 [02:32] <aetherian> no
#135 [02:32] <GuluGulu> caps plz
#136 [02:32] <GuluGulu> it's NO
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#138 [02:34] <aetherian> NO
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#140 [02:35] <aetherian> do it right
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#142 [02:38] <aetherian> anyone here feel as if they are soo addicted to youtube they watch more videos on minecraft than they spend playing it?
#143 [02:39] * genshou is guilty
#143 [02:39] <lemon-rev> lol
#144 [02:39] <lemon-rev> almost
#145 [02:39] <genshou> although right now my HDD is still dying, so...
#146 [02:39] <lemon-rev> funny you mention that
#147 [02:39] <genshou> and yeah, freaking ogres in Mo' Creatures need to stop detecting the player through the floor xD
#148 [02:40] <genshou> heard one above me breaking apart the upper floor of my tower trying to get to me x.x
#149 [02:40] <aetherian> pwn
#150 [02:40] <genshou> by the time I got up there, half my storage chests were blown to smithereens ;<
#151 [02:40] <aetherian> pwn
#152 [02:40] <aetherian> gf 64 diamond
#153 [02:41] <aetherian> gf 128 lazuli
#154 [02:41] <GuluGulu> damn is night and the wall is not rdy we are dooomeddddddd 1!!
#155 [02:41] <aetherian> ohes teh noes
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#157 [02:42] * genshou hands GuluGulu a pickaxe and points at the ground :3
#157 [02:42] <GuluGulu> diiiiiig :P
#158 [02:42] <aetherian> dig down three in dirt
#159 [02:42] <genshou> the new incarnation of my world after 1.2 has serious chunk problems
#160 [02:42] <GuluGulu> i build the house next to a giant cave that every night 2 many creeper come throw:P
#161 [02:43] <GuluGulu> so i ma bulding wall to keep them off and i pew pew from top with arrows :P
#162 [02:43] <aetherian> place one dirt above you
#163 [02:43] <genshou> I have 1-2 chunk areas of ocean in the middle of my mainland, and 1-3 chunk areas of... whatever in the middle of the ocean (or in the middle of some other random noncompatible biome)
#164 [02:44] <genshou> not to mention way too many sheer cliffs that are exactly 16 blocks wide x.x
#165 [02:44] <aetherian> win
#166 [02:44] <genshou> sort of
#167 [02:44] <genshou> I restarted the world so I could find lazuli in my mine
#168 [02:45] <genshou> now I have all this terrain nastiness
#169 [02:45] <genshou> some of it looks cool... most of it looks awful
#170 [02:45] <aetherian> haha
#171 [02:45] <aetherian> fail
#172 [02:46] <genshou> hopefully Notch fixes whatever he fucked with in the biome generator xD
#173 [02:46] <aetherian> that's what happens when you mix chunks
#174 [02:46] <GuluGulu> fk nearly die lol
#175 [02:46] <genshou> I didn't mix chunks... I used a map editor to delete all chunks and change the random seed ;<
#176 [02:46] <aetherian> !ping
#177 [02:46] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.231 Seconds.
#178 [02:47] <genshou> and even with brand new worlds, I'm getting the same amount of screwed up terrain
#179 [02:47] <aetherian> genshou: first part, you mixed chunks. next part, that's only on your end
#180 [02:47] <GuluGulu> any other without internet issues wonna joi my new survival world :D
#181 [02:47] <aetherian> but I'm off to watch (a youtube vid of MC)
#182 [02:48] * genshou sighs and puts MC away to go to bed
#182 [02:49] <dopeghoti> But.. why?
#183 [02:49] <dopeghoti> Also, The Green Hornet is high-larious.
#184 [02:50] <aetherian> ?
#185 [02:50] <aetherian> wha?
#186 [02:52] <aetherian> dopedopederpdopedopedope
#187 [02:52] <aetherian> what do you mean
#188 [02:53] <dopeghoti> it's a movie
#189 [02:53] <dopeghoti> one of those things where they present audiovisual entertainment in a closed venue
#190 [02:54] <aetherian> yes, buy what has it got anything to do with... uh... anything here
#191 [02:54] <dopeghoti> The selection which K. and I attended this even was entitled 'The Green Hornet'.
#192 [02:54] <aetherian> and what is this strange thing
#193 [02:54] <aetherian> you call it
#194 [02:54] <aetherian> "entertainment"
#195 [02:54] <dopeghoti> Yes, I would call audiovisual entertainment a form of entertainment.
#196 [02:55] <aetherian> what is... "entertainment?"
#197 [02:56] <dopeghoti> It's the American Passtime, no matter what anyone might tell you about Poor Mans' Cricket.
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#199 [02:56] <aetherian> pfft, those crazy amerikans
#200 [02:57] <GuluGulu> i wonder if you can make bigger door than the normal one..
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#202 [02:58] <aetherian> yes
#203 [02:58] <aetherian> double door
#204 [02:59] <aetherian> place two next to each other
#205 [02:59] <aetherian> and if you're not DOING IT WRONG it will make a double door
#206 [02:59] <GuluGulu> yeah actualy i mean bigger that that
#207 [02:59] <GuluGulu> for my wooden wall
#208 [02:59] <GuluGulu> need something more epic
#209 [02:59] <GuluGulu> like a castle door
#210 [02:59] <dopeghoti> GuluGulu: you can sorta make a wood portcullis with fencing
#211 [03:00] <aetherian> yeah
#212 [03:00] <aetherian> I say nizzotch should make it so that we can place fences on fences
#213 [03:00] <aetherian> imo
#214 [03:00] <GuluGulu> hmm
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#216 [03:01] <GuluGulu> that can actualy open and close ?
#217 [03:01] <GuluGulu> or just for the looks ?
#218 [03:02] <SinZ> aetherian, it is possible
#219 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> aetherian - You already can
#220 [03:03] <dopeghoti> Hawkzy`: Looks.
#221 [03:03] <Hawkzy`> Huh?
#222 [03:03] <dopeghoti> GreyVulpine: you can place fences _under_ fencs, but not on them.
#223 [03:03] <SinZ> yeh, doing a fence gate is just for looks
#224 [03:03] <dopeghoti> Hawkzy`: sorry, that was for GuluGulu.
#225 [03:03] <SinZ> dopeghoti, you place top first, then go down
#226 [03:03] <Hawkzy`> Mmhmm
#227 [03:04] <dopeghoti> SinZ: I know
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#229 [03:05] <GuluGulu> hmmm wall seems it working even if 1/4 rdy !
#230 [03:05] <mollstam> Doing a system reboot
#231 [03:05] <mollstam> don't shout kids
#232 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> Uh-oh
#233 [03:06] <AndrewPH> did you make it so that the dynamic server list was more staticy?
#234 [03:06] <AndrewPH> by rubbing it with balloons and wool?
#235 [03:06] <SinZ> OHey mollstam
#236 [03:06] <SinZ> thanks again for doing the email
#237 [03:08] <aetherian> oh grey, I see you're back
#238 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> back...? I've never been gone.
#239 [03:08] <aetherian> you hardly acknowledged me when I insulted you just a little earlier
#240 [03:08] <aetherian> I count that as gone
#241 [03:09] <aetherian> *didn't acknowledge
#242 [03:09] <aetherian> *didn't show signs of life
#243 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> Meh, you and Greybot were having some quality time together. I didn't want to interrupt
#244 [03:10] <aetherian> heh
#245 [03:10] <aetherian> you were AFIRC
#246 [03:10] <aetherian> admit it
#247 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> I have two other computer monitors to keep my attention..
#248 [03:11] <aetherian> exactly. AFIRC.
#249 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#250 [03:12] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Portage Lake, Pinckney, Michigan (3:12a Jan 25 11) temp(28.1 F / -2.2 C, feels like 24 F / -5 C) cond(Overcast) wind(WSW at 4.0 mph / 6.4 km/h) hu(90%) dewpnt(26 F / -4 C) bp(30.05 in / 1017.5 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Overcast (OVC) : 900 ft / 274 m) vis(5.0 miles / 8.0 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#251 [03:12] <GreyBot> Tonight: Mostly cloudy. Areas of fog with a chance of light freezing drizzle and flurries through 4 am...then patchy fog. Lows 20 to 24. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.
#252 [03:12] <aetherian> !weather tanger
#253 [03:12] <GreyBot> aetherian: From Tanger, Morocco (8:00a Jan 25 11) temp(55 F / 13 C) cond(Overcast) wind(East at 10 mph / 17 km/h) hu(88%) dewpnt(52 F / 11 C) bp(29.95 in / 1014 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Overcast (OVC) : 1600 ft / 487 m) vis(5.0 miles / 8.0 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#254 [03:12] <GreyBot> Tuesday: Chance of Rain. High: 60 F.
#255 [03:12] <mollstam> SinZ: sure, don't think I've received word yet though
#256 [03:13] <aetherian> hehehe
#257 [03:13] <SinZ> wouldn't think so
#258 [03:13] <SinZ> i haven't seen him today
#259 [03:13] <aetherian> I'm moving near there come like september or whatever for about a year
#260 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Neat
#261 [03:13] <aetherian> hopefully the internet doesn't suck
#262 [03:13] <SinZ> !weather melbourne
#263 [03:13] <GreyBot> SinZ: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#264 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> There's only like a dozen melbourne stations.
#265 [03:14] <SinZ> hmm, its right
#266 [03:14] <aetherian> !weather mountain view
#267 [03:14] <GreyBot> aetherian: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#268 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> !weather melbourne airport
#269 [03:14] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Gladstone Park, Victoria (7:14p Jan 25 11) temp(79.1 F / 26.2 C) cond(Overcast) wind(WNW at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(46%) dewpnt(56 F / 14 C) bp(29.73 in / 1006.7 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Overcast (OVC) : 8400 ft / 2560 m) vis(6.2 miles / 10.0 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#270 [03:14] <GreyBot> Tuesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 82 F.
#271 [03:14] <aetherian> aubot is failbot
#272 [03:14] <aetherian> -AuBot- Please wait while I retrive the weather for your area.
#273 [03:14] <aetherian> let me zoom in
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#275 [03:14] <SinZ> !weather mt dandinong
#276 [03:14] <aetherian> while I retrive the
#277 [03:14] <GreyBot> SinZ: City not found
#278 [03:15] <SinZ> fuck i cant spell
#279 [03:15] <aetherian> retrive
#280 [03:15] <aetherian> >.>
#281 [03:15] <GuluGulu> need more spalinggsss moreee
#282 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> We get the idea
#283 [03:15] <aetherian> O i loev speeling nd gramer
#284 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> scool le4rn Me good.
#285 [03:16] <aetherian> skewl is kewl
#286 [03:16] <aetherian> so i herd u liek gramer
#287 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> lol
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#289 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> This has got to be posted, one sec
#290 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9206178/Hackers_get_access_to_N.J._school_data_system
#291 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Users of the 4chan online message board managed to get access to the online student information system used by a New Jersey school district after the school's administrative password was posted to 4chan last week.
#292 [03:18] <aetherian> what is this, wargames?
#293 [03:18] <aetherian> oh
#294 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> ...when somebody posted a link to the login page and the administrative username ("admin") and password ("poopnugget") of the district's Genesis Student Information System to 4chan...
#295 [03:18] <aetherian> heh
#296 [03:18] <aetherian> poopnugget
#297 [03:18] <aetherian> heh
#298 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> And that, my friends, is why you don't use "admin" for an account, and certainly not use a password vulnerable to a dictionary attack.
#299 [03:20] <aetherian> heh
#300 [03:20] <aetherian> remember what fox (or in this case faux) news tells us
#301 [03:21] <aetherian> that people from 4chan (a largely unknown site) are hackers on steroids
#302 [03:22] * GreyVulpine snerks
#302 [03:22] <aetherian> remember
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#304 [03:23] <aetherian> it's a largely unknows site and everyone on it is smart and have a deep knowledge of computers (and take drugs)
#305 [03:23] <aetherian> key points
#306 [03:23] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#306 [03:24] <SinZ> lol
#307 [03:24] <aetherian> I could find that thing real quick
#308 [03:24] <SinZ> its one of the most popular sites on the internet
#309 [03:24] <SinZ> its all dumass'
#310 [03:24] <aetherian> nonono
#311 [03:24] <aetherian> it's a largely unknown site!
#312 [03:24] <SinZ> ...
#313 [03:24] <SinZ> yes...
#314 [03:25] <aetherian> :D
#315 [03:25] <SinZ> unknown...
#316 [03:25] <aetherian> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512957,00.html
#317 [03:25] <aetherian> The most powerful people on the Internet don't work for Microsoft, Google or the government. Rather, they're a bunch of antisocial, foul-mouthed, clever nerds who congregate at a largely unknown Web site called 4chan.org.
#318 [03:25] <aetherian> that article is full of failure, let me tell you
#319 [03:26] <aetherian> heh
#320 [03:26] <aetherian> one more copypaste
#321 [03:26] <aetherian> Moot — he insists on the lowercase "m"
#322 [03:27] <aetherian> ^fail
#323 [03:27] <aetherian> |
#324 [03:28] <aetherian> I have to say
#325 [03:28] <aetherian> the wikipedia article on the group anonymous is quite funny
#326 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> !wiki anonymous
#327 [03:28] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29
#328 [03:28] <GreyBot> Anonymous (used as a mass noun) is a term used in two senses. As an Internet meme it represents the concept of many on-line community users, or the on-line community itself, acting anonymously in a coordinated manner, usually toward a loosely self-agreed goal. It is also a label adopted by anarchistic amalgamations of hacktivists who undertake protests and other actions under the notional title
#329 [03:28] <GreyBot> "Anonymous," which derives from the same meme. It is generally considered to be a blanket term for members of certain Internet subcultures.
#330 [03:29] <aetherian> coordinated
#331 [03:29] <aetherian> agreed goal
#332 [03:30] <aetherian> anarchistic hacktivists
#333 [03:30] <aetherian> is that even a word?
#334 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> !wiki hacktivists
#335 [03:30] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacktivism
#336 [03:30] <GreyBot> Hacktivism is a linguistic blend of hack and activism. This leads to a controversy of meaning because both the terms "hacker" and "activism" are morally broad terms. Hacking, which originally (in relation to computers), meant "elegant computer programming" [verification needed] has been used, in the mainstream media, almost exclusively to mean "illegally breaking into computers". Activism
#337 [03:30] <GreyBot> similarly includes both explicitly non-violent action (Martin Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi) and violent revolutionary activities (Malcolm X and Che Guevara). The term was coined by designer/author Jason Sack in a 1995 InfoNation article about the media artist Shu Lea Cheang.
#338 [03:30] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#338 [03:30] <aetherian> ooh
#339 [03:30] <aetherian> wow
#340 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> I officially unsubscribe from the interwebs now
#341 [03:30] * GreyVulpine hands in his card
#341 [03:31] <aetherian> anon is just like ghandi and mertin luther king
#342 [03:31] <aetherian> :O
#343 [03:31] <SinZ> !wiki Minecraft
#344 [03:31] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minecraft
#345 [03:31] <GreyBot> Minecraft is a sandbox building video game which allows players to build constructions out of textured cubes in a 3D world. It is currently in development, originally by creator Markus "Notch" Persson and now by his company formed from the proceeds of the game, Mojang. Minecraft has been developed on the Java platform. The gameplay is inspired by Dwarf Fortress, Dungeon Keeper, and
#346 [03:31] <GreyBot> Infiniminer. The game is divided into two main modes, Beta and Classic; where Classic is focused entirely on construction, Beta also contains enemies, player health, and additional features and items. Beta is the currently updated version of the game.
#347 [03:31] <aetherian> !wiki spam
#348 [03:31] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam
#349 [03:31] <GreyBot> Spam may refer to:
#350 [03:31] <aetherian> !wiki spam_(noun)
#351 [03:31] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary:spam
#352 [03:31] <aetherian> ugh
#353 [03:31] <aetherian> stupid bot
#354 [03:31] * GreyBot bonks aetherian, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#354 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Good greybot
#355 [03:31] * GreyBot purrs.
#355 [03:31] <SinZ> 0.o
#356 [03:31] <aetherian> aubot is a stupid bot
#357 [03:31] * GreyBot bonks aetherian, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#357 [03:32] <SinZ> GreyBot your fat and ugly and noone likes you
#358 [03:32] <aetherian> oh sorry, didn't mean to offend aubot, I know how much he means to you, grey
#359 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> !slap SinZ
#360 [03:32] * GreyBot slaps SinZ with a red chinese dragon.
#360 [03:32] <aetherian> !slap aubot
#361 [03:32] <aetherian> !slap aubot
#362 [03:32] <aetherian> ...
#363 [03:32] <SinZ> !ragequit
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#365 [03:33] <aetherian> ack
#366 [03:34] <aetherian> !wiki internet
#367 [03:34] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
#368 [03:34] <GreyBot> The Internet is a global system of interconnected computer networks that use the standard Internet Protocol Suite (TCP/IP) to serve billions of users worldwide. It is a network of networks that consists of millions of private, public, academic, business, and government networks, of local to global scope, that are linked by a broad array of electronic, wireless and optical networking technologies.
#369 [03:34] <GreyBot> The Internet carries a vast range of information resources and services, such as the inter-linked hypertext documents of the World Wide Web (WWW) and the infrastructure to support electronic mail.
#370 [03:35] <aetherian> are they trying to sound pompous?
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#372 [03:38] <aetherian> !wiki sleep
#373 [03:38] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep
#374 [03:38] <GreyBot> Sleep is a naturally recurring state characterized by reduced or lacking consciousness, relatively suspended sensory activity, and inactivity of nearly all voluntary muscles. It is distinguished from quiet wakefulness by a decreased ability to react to stimuli, but it is more easily reversible than hibernation or coma. Sleep is a heightened anabolic state, accentuating the growth and
#375 [03:38] <GreyBot> rejuvenation of the immune, nervous, skeletal and muscular systems. It is observed in all mammals, all birds, and many reptiles, amphibians, and fish.
#376 [03:38] <aetherian> night guys
#377 [03:39] <aetherian> *cough stupidbot cough*
#378 [03:39] <ConMan8> have fun sleeping
#379 [03:39] <aetherian> !slap greyvulpine
#380 [03:39] <aetherian> awe
#381 [03:40] <aetherian> what did the man say to the self-mutilistic zombie?
#382 [03:40] <aetherian> eat your heart out
#383 [03:40] <aetherian> you need a !bad joke or !lame joke or something
#384 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> !joke
#385 [03:41] <GreyBot> Why don't cannibals eat clowns? -Because they taste funny.
#386 [03:41] <aetherian> hitgn ygsu
#387 [03:42] <aetherian> what did the new person say as he walked into the room of his boss and found him in a clown suit?
#388 [03:42] <aetherian> "hi"
#389 [03:42] <aetherian> good night moon
#390 [03:43] <aetherian> (by margaret wise brownm)
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#392 [03:54] <GuluGulu> i have to do soemthign with that explosion it scares the #!@#!$ out of me !
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#413 [05:36] <zgamer> hmm i need some help :(
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#415 [05:37] <zgamer> is anyone here?
#416 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#417 [05:37] <zgamer> i just purchased a giftcode
#418 [05:37] <zgamer> but i didnt receive a email containing the codes
#419 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> It may take some time for the purchase to go through the system
#420 [05:38] <zgamer> payment is already completed
#421 [05:38] <zgamer> oh wait it shows @ profile
#422 [05:38] <zgamer> but somehow i never receive emails from minecraft
#423 [05:39] <zgamer> once i forgot the password, didnt receive email for recovery
#424 [05:39] * GreyVulpine nods
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#425 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#426 [05:49] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#427 [05:51] <GuluGulu> damn that explosions
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#429 [05:53] <Drule> Is there a way to make people autojoin a Minecraft server via an URL?
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#433 [06:02] <Deages> is there a problem with setting the java stack xmx/xms at 4000/4000 when I have 8GB of RAM?
#434 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> As long as you're not on a 32 bit OS, there shouldn't be a problem
#435 [06:04] <Deages> 64bit, I'm just not too knowledgable on the 'stack'
#436 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> "heap".
#437 [06:06] <Deages> case in point :p
#438 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Basically with the xms/x argument, you're allocating a heap size in memory
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#441 [06:11] <Deages> thanks GreyVulpine
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#443 [06:19] <ElectroPulsar> Does anybody here know their way around Ubuntu? I installed it with the flash drive install, but it is not persistent. I have to go in half an hour, so does somebody know if there is a way to turn on persistence?
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#445 [06:21] <BarryCarlyon> ElectroPulsar: this is not #ubuntu on freenode.
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#447 [06:23] <ElectroPulsar> Yes, I am trying to do it for the sole purpose of playing Minecraft, and I know that there are several Linux users that hang out here, so I was hoping they could help
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#451 [06:47] <ZenMaster> hi there
#452 [06:48] <ZenMaster> according to #minecraft, minecraft.net is no longer down for maintenance (at least it disappeared from the topic). The website though still says something about server migration. So I assume the process is still ongoing? Or is the website not updated yet?
#453 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> The website is up and running right now
#454 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> The server migration has already completed
#455 [06:50] <ZenMaster> oh, good
#456 [06:51] <ZenMaster> I ordered the game yesterday :D didnt know that there was some maintenance ongoing ^^ I guess my order is in the queue then, as I didnt receive a code or something
#457 [06:51] <GuluGulu> but skin upload seem still down
#458 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes, the skins have been disabled until they can work out some kinks in the system
#459 [06:54] <ZenMaster> is the normal procedure for the buying process that one gets a code for download or how does it work?
#460 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> If you're buying for yourself?
#461 [06:54] <ZenMaster> yes, for myself
#462 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> What's your minecraft username?
#463 [06:55] <ZenMaster> ZenGrandMaster
#464 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> !paid ZenGrandMaster
#465 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> Looks like you're all set there
#466 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> Just download the client, and log in
#467 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> !client
#468 [06:56] <ZenMaster> heh, my brother said he got a code via email in return, so I was waiting for that
#469 [06:56] <ZenMaster> ^^
#470 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> That's only if somebody gifted him a copy
#471 [06:56] <ZenMaster> DOH
#472 [06:56] <ZenMaster> he said he bought it for himself
#473 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Strange. Well, normally, people buy gift codes for other people.
#474 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> When you purchase it for yourself, you get credited to your account, and usually an email will be sent for confirmation.
#475 [06:57] <Drule> Anyone know the URL format for allowing people to autojoin a Beta game?
#476 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> I don't believe there is one
#477 [06:57] <ZenMaster> didnt get any email, but I think thats because of the maintenance
#478 [06:57] <Drule> Gah.
#479 [06:57] * GreyVulpine nods
#479 [06:57] <Drule> That blows.
#480 [06:57] <ZenMaster> oh
#481 [06:58] <ZenMaster> lol
#482 [06:59] <ZenMaster> anyway, just downloaded the client; gonna check as soon as I return home from work
#483 [06:59] <ZenMaster> cheers guys, thanx for the help
#484 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> Take care.
#485 [07:02] <GuluGulu> i am totaly lost on my own server lol
#486 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> That's never good.
#487 [07:06] <GuluGulu> sencond night i have to stay in dirt house away from my castleeeee
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#490 [07:11] <GuluGulu> spiker outside my tree/dirt house
#491 [07:11] <GuluGulu> spider*
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#493 [07:13] <Portality> hello
#494 [07:13] <GuluGulu> hi
#495 [07:13] <Portality> i have one or two questions regarding multiplayer
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#497 [07:13] <GreyVulpine> Shoot
#498 [07:15] <Portality> i recently bought the game and on multi it says it's not finish but there is testing. do i have to know someone with a multiplayer server to play it?
#499 [07:15] <Portality> and in the future will it be easier to join multiplayer games?
#500 [07:15] <GuluGulu> well that's kinda strange
#501 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> There is no server browser, if you know the server's IP, you can join it.
#502 [07:15] <GuluGulu> i got the game 2 days ago
#503 [07:15] <GuluGulu> that's it
#504 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> A list of beta servers are available on the forums here:
#505 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#506 [07:16] <GuluGulu> u can try my server if you don't have one
#507 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> Or, you can run your own server
#508 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> The server software is also available for free, on the same page where you downloaded the client
#509 [07:16] <Portality> i tried typing a few server names but they may have been out dated. i'll try yours thanks
#510 [07:17] <Portality> is it like the game, only with more ppl?
#511 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#512 [07:17] <Portality> very cool
#513 [07:17] <GuluGulu> for instance i don't play single mode
#514 [07:18] <GuluGulu> i prefer to paly multiplay with my own server and if somone wants to join he can come :)
#515 [07:18] <GuluGulu> multiplay is awlsy more fun
#516 [07:18] <Portality> when multiplayer is finished would they have a server browser built in when you click multiplayer?
#517 [07:18] <GreyVulpine> We haven't heard anything about that.
#518 [07:19] <GuluGulu> indeed but u can find many mutiplyer server on minicraft forums
#519 [07:19] <Portality> yeah i've had fun in single player last couple weeks but it's a lonely gigantic world and i'm ready to branch out haha
#520 [07:22] <GuluGulu> lol can't find the way back to my house
#521 [07:23] <GuluGulu> lol seems like 3rd night will be outside again :P
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#523 [07:24] <Portality> when i type a server name it says "failed to connect to server Unknown host"
#524 [07:24] <Portality> :(
#525 [07:24] <GuluGulu> gimme a server name
#526 [07:24] <Portality> pixelville
#527 [07:24] <GuluGulu> well that's not a server name
#528 [07:24] <GuluGulu> a server name should have
#529 [07:24] <GuluGulu> .com .net .org something like that at the end
#530 [07:24] <Portality> ok then i don't know what i'm doing lol
#531 [07:24] <GuluGulu> to make it a domain name
#532 [07:24] <GuluGulu> most prob
#533 [07:24] <GuluGulu> tru use taht
#534 [07:25] <GuluGulu> actualy let me make a dirt house cos is getting night
#535 [07:25] <GuluGulu> and ill give you y server address to join
#536 [07:25] <Portality> sweet thx
#537 [07:26] <Portality> but like where would it say it like on a page like this... http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1025&t=132503#p1924211
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#539 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> IP adress:
#540 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> 206.217.136.179
#541 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> That would be the address you would put in
#542 [07:27] <GuluGulu> don't get confused by the server name and the server adress
#543 [07:27] <Portality> ic ic
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#545 [07:27] <GuluGulu> address should have 2 forms 1 is IO ( a 4 part number's seperated by dots)
#546 [07:28] <GuluGulu> and a domain name which will have a name domainname.com (or .whaterver)
#547 [07:28] <GuluGulu> 85.73.215.98 that's my ip
#548 [07:28] <GuluGulu> use that and connect to mine if you like
#549 [07:28] <ballOOnhead> hello everyone
#550 [07:28] <GuluGulu> it's 2 days world survival
#551 [07:28] <Portality> k
#552 [07:28] <GuluGulu> hi ball
#553 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#555 [07:31] <ballOOnhead> got a problem running Minecraft under Ubuntu and Firefox with Sun Java U23. Anyone with this combination here?
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#557 [07:32] <mbentley> don't have that combination exactly but close
#558 [07:33] <mbentley> debian with iceweasel sun java 22
#559 [07:33] <ballOOnhead> when i create a new world i only see the game in the background with the popupmenu. i cannot get rid of the menu.
#560 [07:34] <mbentley> just out of curiosity, which ubuntu release
#561 [07:34] <ballOOnhead> installed Sun Java as described at several forums. The plugin is installed correctly
#562 [07:34] <ballOOnhead> 10.04
#563 [07:34] <mbentley> does 'java -version' show the sun java?
#564 [07:34] <ballOOnhead> just a moment.
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#566 [07:35] <ballOOnhead> yes correct. version 1.6.0_23
#567 [07:35] <mbentley> ok, just making sure it wasn't still showing openjdk
#568 [07:35] <ballOOnhead> removed all openjdk before
#569 [07:36] <mbentley> gotcha. have you tried just running the .jar?
#570 [07:36] <ballOOnhead> Firefox loads the normal Menu of Minecraft and the world is generated
#571 [07:36] <ballOOnhead> not yet.
#572 [07:36] <ballOOnhead> will try in a second.
#573 [07:40] <mbentley> wonder if this is updated...
#574 [07:40] <mbentley> !client
#575 [07:41] <ballOOnhead> new system with fresh updates.
#576 [07:41] <ballOOnhead> okay the standalone jar is running correct as i can see.
#577 [07:42] <ballOOnhead> Thank you
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#579 [07:42] <ballOOnhead> that still leaves the problem why the plugin in Firefox won't work properly
#580 [07:42] <mbentley> hmm interesting
#581 [07:43] <mbentley> go to about:plugins
#582 [07:43] <mbentley> look for any reference of java or openjdk
#583 [07:43] <ballOOnhead> sun java.
#584 [07:43] <ballOOnhead> looked that up before
#585 [07:43] <mbentley> ah gotcha
#586 [07:43] <mbentley> that's odd then
#587 [07:44] <ballOOnhead> and the plugin loads until it has to display the world and i should start to play but only the menu appears
#588 [07:44] <ballOOnhead> i can see the world under the menu but no effect on clicking BACK TO GAME
#589 [07:46] <mbentley> does it make the menu button press sound when you try to click it/
#590 [07:46] <mbentley> /=?
#591 [07:46] <ballOOnhead> huu i'm scared. Now it seems to be running
#592 [07:46] <ballOOnhead> wtf
#593 [07:47] <ballOOnhead> after starting and closing the standalone jar it now is running normal within Firefox.
#594 [07:47] <ballOOnhead> i'll try out generating a new world.
#595 [07:48] <ballOOnhead> okay no problem here too
#596 [07:48] <ballOOnhead> i guess thats it.
#597 [07:48] <ballOOnhead> Thank you for your patience with a natural born windowsuser ;)
#598 [07:49] <mbentley> odd but glad it works lol
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#602 [08:07] <cfdpipeman> I have a question about dungeons. Are they accessible by cave systems or only by digging, or either?
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#605 [08:21] <Valium_> I need an OP please
#606 [08:21] <Valium_> halp
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#616 [08:55] <mib_og1nyp> hey i have a question
#617 [08:55] <Valium> k
#618 [08:55] <mib_og1nyp> how can i buy minecraft without paypal?
#619 [08:55] <Valium> use a credit card
#620 [08:55] <mib_og1nyp> i dont have it :D
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#622 [08:55] <Valium> then you cant
#623 [08:55] <RelaXDragon> Hello
#624 [08:56] <Valium> hi
#625 [08:56] <RelaXDragon> Can anyone help me with a question about MC, or more about the MC-Site
#626 [08:56] <Valium> mib_og1nyp: get a friend or parent to buy it for you
#627 [08:56] <Valium> sure
#628 [08:56] <mib_og1nyp> can i buy per paysafe card?
#629 [08:56] <Valium> dunno mib_og1nyp doubt it, but you could try
#630 [08:56] <Valium> whats up RelaXDragon
#631 [08:57] <RelaXDragon> I Have bought the game, but when I press "Browser" on minecraft.net to play it says "Buy Beta Now" When I already did.
#632 [08:57] <RelaXDragon> Any thoughts?
#633 [08:57] <Valium> did you log in?
#634 [08:57] <mib_og1nyp> vali admin?
#635 [08:57] <Valium> mib_og1nyp: what?
#636 [08:57] <RelaXDragon> Yeah I did
#637 [08:57] <Valium> RelaXDragon: whats your IGN?
#638 [08:57] <RelaXDragon> Same
#639 [08:57] <mib_og1nyp> are you an admin from minecraft?
#640 [08:58] <Valium> !paid RelaXDragon
#641 [08:58] <Valium> mib_og1nyp: no
#642 [08:58] <Valium> RelaXDragon: try downloading the client
#643 [08:58] <mib_og1nyp> where can i contact an admin?
#644 [08:58] <Valium> mib_og1nyp: e-mail supposedly, but don't hold your breath
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#646 [08:59] <RelaXDragon> Yeah but Client has alot of connection errors lately... Like who of mincraft is having lag :S
#647 [08:59] <RelaXDragon> whole*
#648 [08:59] <Valium> RelaXDragon: the browser and download client are EXACTLY the same
#649 [09:00] <Valium> RelaXDragon: it's all java.
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#651 [09:00] <Valium> RelaXDragon: point being, that if you are having connection errors with the downloadable client, you will have the same running it through the webpage
#652 [09:01] <RelaXDragon> Still I can't connect to the the server I'm admin on trough the client but I can In-Browser
#653 [09:01] <RelaXDragon> Weird stuff :)
#654 [09:01] <Valium> RelaXDragon: that is odd indeed
#655 [09:01] <Valium> RelaXDragon: try reinstalling.
#656 [09:02] <Valium> RelaXDragon: or are you getting a timeout?
#657 [09:02] <RelaXDragon> Hhmm now I can login, but yeah I usually get a Timeout on the client
#658 [09:02] <Steampoweredcat> so question can mobs spawn anywhere it is pitch black or near pitch black?
#659 [09:03] <Valium> RelaXDragon: when was the last time you had tried?
#660 [09:03] <Valium> Steampoweredcat: bingo
#661 [09:03] <RelaXDragon> Daily bases
#662 [09:03] <Steampoweredcat> so I create say a 19x19 room, remove the torches and wait for skeletons, time erquired to spawn? at below 20
#663 [09:03] <Valium> RelaXDragon: there have been migrations to a new server lately, causing several connection issues
#664 [09:04] <RelaXDragon> Yeah so I've heard, Ooh well Im sure if I have more issues you'll see me back :) Thanks for your help
#665 [09:04] <Valium> Steampoweredcat: not long, almost guaranteed at night
#666 [09:04] <Valium> RelaXDragon: no problem
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#668 [09:05] <Valium> Steampoweredcat: making a mob trap?
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#670 [09:06] <Steampoweredcat> yeah my first mob trap, 19x22 room, with a side by the door with a cactus wall
#671 [09:06] <Steampoweredcat> wait till spawn, light up the room, left them die collect stuff
#672 [09:06] <Valium> Steampoweredcat: I have a really efficient design you might like
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#674 [09:07] <Steampoweredcat> that won't take all day :3
#675 [09:07] <Valium> nope, fairly quick actually
#676 [09:07] <Steampoweredcat> link?
#677 [09:08] <Valium> in PM
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#679 [09:09] <SinZ> hey shadoom
#680 [09:09] <shadoom> hi XD
#681 [09:09] <shadoom> I bought the gift code about 2 hours ago but i didnt recieve any mail yet... how long does it usually take ?
#682 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> It can take up to a few days
#683 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> At worst
#684 [09:10] <shadoom> ouch :S
#685 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> Many people report getting a code within a few hours though
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#687 [09:10] <SinZ> alot of backlogs when the server was having trouble
#688 [09:10] * GreyVulpine nods
#688 [09:11] <shadoom> then i guess im just an unlucky one :()
#689 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> Nah.
#690 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> If it's been a few weeks, then you'll have a right to complain
#691 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> Some have waited that long
#692 [09:11] <shadoom> holy XD
#693 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> But, a few hours is an average wait around now.
#694 [09:12] <shadoom> wanted to surprise a friend with the code but meh i guess he has to wait ^^
#695 [09:12] <shadoom> hmm okay thanks GreyVulpine :)
#696 [09:12] * GreyVulpine nods
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#701 [09:36] <Drule> What are the primary generator applications used for Minecraft Beta when making natural-looking maps?
#702 [09:36] <Drule> Aside from the built-in one
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#705 [09:39] <Auxilium> Should i send Minecraft crashreport somewhere? (mac os)
#706 [09:42] <Drule> Also, is there a site somewhere with premade natural MC maps?
#707 [09:42] <nipper> drule just build your own.
#708 [09:42] <Drule> how
#709 [09:42] <nipper> Start up a new game in single player.
#710 [09:43] <Drule> ahahah http://minecraftmaps.net/
#711 [09:43] <Sins> it randomly generats
#712 [09:43] <Sins> generates
#713 [09:43] <nipper> It will auto build a map and as you play it will make new chunks
#714 [09:43] <Drule> nipper: Aren't multiplayer maps infinite?
#715 [09:43] <nipper> Both sp and smp are.
#716 [09:44] <Drule> Then why are you telling me to generate the map in SP instead of MP
#717 [09:44] <Drule> it's the same thing
#718 [09:44] <Drule> or do you get to specify map parameters in SP?
#719 [09:44] <nipper> You can keep walking till your fingers hurt and you still would not hit the end of the map.
#720 [09:44] <nipper> drule both sp and smp use the same maps.
#721 [09:44] <Drule> Then why are you telling me to do it in SP instead of MP
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#723 [09:44] <Drule> Starting a MP game will generate a map in the same manner
#724 [09:45] <nipper> Well I just thought you were playing sp and not smp
#725 [09:45] <nipper> Yeah.
#726 [09:45] <nipper> But in smp to change to a new map you need to change the settings file.
#727 [09:45] <Drule> Oic, sorry.
#728 [09:46] <Drule> I know, but I am interested in knowing if there is either a good third party map generator that allows you to generate maps using parameters, or if there's a site somewhere with good-looking natural starter maps.
#729 [09:46] <Drule> Because I feel that 90% of the times, MC will generate pretty bad-looking maps.
#730 [09:47] <Drule> In alpha you could do all sorts of cool shit with the built-in map generator, but in Beta it seems like it never wants to do anything interesting with the areas surrounding the spawnpoint
#731 [09:48] <Drule> There's like
#732 [09:48] <Drule> a 33% chance that you will get a plain desert with a few cactuses and no trees or hills in sight, a 33% chance that you'll get a boring snowy landscape and a 33% chance that you'll get a boring beach next to a low hill with a few trees on it
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#734 [09:48] <Twanaa> Hello
#735 [09:48] <nipper> I don't know I have had some neat maps made on SMP when I had to redo my server. But I tend not to do that to much. My users hate it.
#736 [09:48] <Twanaa> I got banned on my own server.
#737 [09:48] <Drule> I never get any huge mountains or anything that's fun to build on
#738 [09:48] <Drule> just
#739 [09:48] <Drule> plain areas
#740 [09:48] <nipper> Twanaa remove your self form the ban list and restart server.
#741 [09:48] <Twanaa> and it's fully griefed
#742 [09:49] <Twanaa> ok.
#743 [09:50] <nipper> Twanaa not much you can do about the griefing enless you have a anti grief or backups.
#744 [09:52] <Twanaa> but some people change their name to mine and then they ban everyone and put lava and fire everywhere
#745 [09:52] <Twanaa> where can i download anti grief
#746 [09:53] <Twanaa> coue the hacker is now playing with us
#747 [09:53] <SinZ> is your server on "online" mode?
#748 [09:53] <Twanaa> he is logging in with the name: server
#749 [09:53] <Twanaa> yes
#750 [09:53] <nipper> You need to install a mod to the server.
#751 [09:53] <Twanaa> i have hmod'
#752 [09:54] <nipper> hmod bit out of date.
#753 [09:54] <Twanaa> 89.20.113.22 is his ip
#754 [09:54] <nipper> I don't even think it works anymore with new version.
#755 [09:54] <Twanaa> yes it does
#756 [09:54] <SinZ> kmod, unoffical copy of hmod
#757 [09:54] <SinZ> or the unoffical hmod v134s
#758 [09:54] <Twanaa> The hackers ip: 89.20.117.22
#759 [09:54] <nipper> I would not use it. Bukkit as it is now has just about all thats is needed.
#760 [09:55] <SinZ> yeh
#761 [09:55] <SinZ> bukkits code is much more neat
#762 [09:55] <SinZ> because it comes with no commands
#763 [09:55] <Twanaa> aha
#764 [09:55] <SinZ> you need plugins for everything now
#765 [09:55] <nipper> As for now yes.
#766 [09:55] <SinZ> its going to come with a plugin in future
#767 [09:55] <SinZ> with all the basics
#768 [09:55] <nipper> Bukkit still has its issues but works like its spose to.
#769 [09:56] <SinZ> yeh, api bugs here and there
#770 [09:56] <nipper> They already have that SinZ
#771 [09:56] <SinZ> but it is perfictly useful
#772 [09:56] <SinZ> nipper, i mean the release, will have the plugin in the folder already
#773 [09:56] <nipper> But for the most part has anti grief and chest protect thats all a server really needs. Rest is just to keep the users happy.
#774 [09:57] <SinZ> i mean, kick, ban and all the requirements
#775 [09:57] <Twanaa> but these hackers how they change name
#776 [09:57] <SinZ> is your server set to online, or offline
#777 [09:57] <Twanaa> online
#778 [09:57] <nipper> Yeah, It's still missing the basic commands like that. But like everyone says. Theres a plugin for that.
#779 [09:57] <Twanaa> 92.70.149.25
#780 [09:57] <nipper> Yeah, His server had to be set to offlinemode.
#781 [09:58] <SinZ> i forgot how to spoof name in offline mode
#782 [09:58] <Twanaa> yo nipper
#783 [09:58] <Twanaa> u saw u on
#784 [09:59] <nipper> Lagging. Right now. But no I did not look.
#785 [09:59] <nipper> Lost my internet so leaching off someone elses.
#786 [09:59] <Twanaa> I know
#787 [09:59] <Twanaa> come back online
#788 [09:59] <Twanaa> it work now
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#790 [10:08] <SinZ> hey LG_Legacy
#791 [10:09] <LG_Legacy> ?
#792 [10:14] <Valium> learn anything on the field trip Steampoweredcat ?
#793 [10:14] <Steampoweredcat> totally
#794 [10:15] <Valium> awesome
#795 [10:15] <Valium> the design is easily adaptable, thankfully
#796 [10:16] <Valium> I hope I was able to sufficiently break it down
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#798 [10:18] <Valium> Bonjour!
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#802 [10:21] <wiggins96> does any know of a cartrographer for minecraft beta
#803 [10:22] <Valium> yeah
#804 [10:22] <Valium> cartographer
#805 [10:23] <wiggins96> the alpha works for the beta as well?
#806 [10:23] <Valium> mmhmm
#807 [10:23] <Valium> just updated
#808 [10:23] <wiggins96> then i must be doing somthig nwrong
#809 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Programs_and_Editors#Mappers
#810 [10:23] <Valium> dangit GreyVulpine why you gotta make it easy
#811 [10:24] <Steampoweredcat> how do i tell if i have an alpha or beta account?
#812 [10:24] <Valium> how much did you pay?
#813 [10:24] <Steampoweredcat> gift!
#814 [10:25] <wiggins96> no the issue im having is that my cartographer stops working every time i try to open up my map
#815 [10:25] <Valium> ask the gifter
#816 [10:25] <Steampoweredcat> she doesn't remember :(
#817 [10:26] <Valium> wiggins96: I'd ask the people that made the program
#818 [10:26] <wiggins96> kk
#819 [10:26] <mbentley> wiggins96: are you trying to run cartographer while you are using your map?
#820 [10:26] <wiggins96> no
#821 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> Steampoweredcat - I'd wait then, if your gifter doesn't remember, Notch and his team will implement an alpha/beta checker in the future
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#823 [10:27] <Steampoweredcat> seems good tehn
#824 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Was in one of this twitters
#825 [10:27] <Valium> twitter?
#826 [10:28] <Valium> whats a twitter?
#827 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/notch
#828 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Wow, you're behind the times
#829 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> !wiki twitter
#830 [10:28] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter
#831 [10:28] <GreyBot> Twitter is a website, owned and operated by Twitter Inc., which offers a social networking and microblogging service, enabling its users to send and read messages called tweets. Tweets are text-based posts of up to 140 characters displayed on the user's profile page. Tweets are publicly visible by default; however, senders can restrict message delivery to just their followers. Users may subscribe
#832 [10:28] <GreyBot> to other users' tweets—this is known as following and subscribers are known as followers.
#833 [10:28] <Valium> you. have. a. wiki. bot. TROLL. FAILED.
#834 [10:28] * Valium dies
#834 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#835 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> This is a help channel. I come prepared
#836 [10:30] <Valium> well done
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#838 [10:31] <SinZ> !evil
#839 [10:31] <GreyBot> If I ever became an evil overlord, number 121. If I come into possession of an artifact which can only be used by the pure of heart, I will not attempt to use it regardless.
#840 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Gah, stop that
#841 [10:31] <SinZ> =P
#842 [10:31] <omegah> hey val got that package yet ?
#843 [10:32] <Valium> not yet
#844 [10:32] <wiggins96> ok i got my cartographer working
#845 [10:32] <SinZ> hehe package
#846 [10:33] <omegah> sinz if only u knew what was in it
#847 [10:33] <SinZ> inorite
#848 [10:33] <SinZ> lemme guess, Icecream, Toothpaste, glue?
#849 [10:33] <Valium> a mixture of those actually
#850 [10:34] <SinZ> Man I'm a good guesser =P
#851 [10:34] <omegah> sinz vegimite XD
#852 [10:35] <Valium> thats what I said
#853 [10:35] <omegah> lies
#854 [10:35] <omegah> its bottled tar val
#855 [10:36] <Valium> I do have some tarmac to patch...
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#858 [10:38] <Valium> I'm gonna play some rockband
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#860 [10:39] <wiggins96> damn....... i have got a realy long walk ahead of me -_-
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#865 [10:47] <Smargoos> anyone here?
#866 [10:47] <mbentley> nope
#867 [10:47] <omegah> nope no one
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#869 [10:49] <Smargoos> my friend lags in minecraft
#870 [10:49] <Smargoos> he has delay at my server
#871 [10:49] <Smargoos> we are using hamachi
#872 [10:49] <Smargoos> i dont have any delay
#873 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Of course you don't have any delay, you're running the server locally. There will be no network lag with a server in the same room. However, going over hamachi, as well as how your network connection is set up, will have more impact on network lag for people connection from the outside.
#874 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> s/connection/connecting
#875 [10:55] <Kealper> holy crap did i actually spell that wrong?
#876 [10:55] <Kealper> !w port huron
#877 [10:55] <Kealper> i did :O
#878 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Your weather script sucks kealper.
#879 [10:55] * GreyVulpine stabs said script
#879 [10:55] <Kealper> how does it suck?
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#881 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't work...
#882 [10:56] <Kealper> yes it does...it just worked for me
#883 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, lies
#884 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> !w detroit
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#886 [10:57] <Kealper> just told me that it's 29F / -2C out, cloudy, 75% humidity, and winds going west at 7mph
#887 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#888 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> !weather melbourne airport
#889 [10:57] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Melbourne Airport, Victoria (2:30a Jan 26 11) temp(63 F / 17 C) cond(Mostly Cloudy) wind(NNE at 9 mph / 15 km/h) hu(94%) dewpnt(61 F / 16 C) bp(29.83 in / 1010 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 3300 ft / 1005 m) vis(6.2 miles / 10.0 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#890 [10:57] <GreyBot> Tuesday: Unknown. High: 82 F.
#891 [10:57] <Burnskagen> I need help setting up a minecraft server on my newly bought VPS
#892 [10:58] <Smargoos> sometime he has delay but sometimes not is it because of me or him?
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#894 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> Burnskagen - What sort of help?
#895 [10:58] <Kealper> what api does yours poll? google's weather api can't use airports
#896 [10:58] <Burnskagen> I have no clue what to do
#897 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - wunderground
#898 [10:58] <Burnskagen> :)
#899 [10:58] <Kealper> ahh, i was thinking of switching mine to that
#900 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> It's pretty good.
#901 [10:58] <Smargoos> and is there way to fix it
#902 [10:58] <Burnskagen> https://hazenet.co.uk is where I bought it
#903 [10:58] <Kealper> i've got their sidebar gadget :O
#904 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Burnskagen - Um.
#905 [10:59] <Burnskagen> I have no idea what to do next
#906 [10:59] <Burnskagen> I havent done it before
#907 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> This Connection is Untrusted
#908 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> hazenet.co.uk uses an invalid security certificate.
#909 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Neat.
#910 [10:59] <Kealper> lul
#911 [10:59] <Kealper> invalid? or self-signed?
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#913 [11:00] <Burnskagen> What does that imply?
#914 [11:00] <Burnskagen> I have already bought it so there is nothing to do about it :(
#915 [11:00] <Kealper> if it's invalid, it means their sysadmin sucks
#916 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> Oh wait... you gave me an https:
#917 [11:00] <Kealper> if it's self-signed, it means they are a very small operation
#918 [11:00] <Burnskagen> But anyways, can I get some guidance on what to do
#919 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> Can you give us some information on their hosting?
#920 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> Linux? Windows? Type of VPS?
#921 [11:01] <Burnskagen> I'll check
#922 [11:01] <Kealper> oh...it's legit...their cert is for secure.hazenet.co.uk
#923 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> Any sort of info at all on what your permissions are
#924 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> How they give you access to it, through a control panel on their website? FTP?
#925 [11:02] <Burnskagen> It doesn't say much
#926 [11:02] <Burnskagen> Nothing about OS
#927 [11:02] <Burnskagen> but I guess it is FTP cause there is no way to upload on the website
#928 [11:02] <Burnskagen> I'll search more for system details
#929 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> You sure about that?
#930 [11:03] <Burnskagen> Pretty
#931 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> Looks like on their website, they say they have a SolusVM control panel
#932 [11:03] <Sami345> Can someone help me fix my internet connection?
#933 [11:03] <mbentley> your ISP might be able to help
#934 [11:03] <Burnskagen> hmm
#935 [11:04] <Sami345> My connections to Germany are bad http://www.pingtest.net/result/33046524.png
#936 [11:04] <dopeghoti> Sami345: given that you're _here_, it seems to be working.
#937 [11:04] <Sami345> well, it works, but not very good for playing
#938 [11:04] <mbentley> change service providers?
#939 [11:05] <Sami345> not possible, this only one who sells here :D
#940 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> And looks like they offer plenty of linux distros
#941 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> Plenty of linux distros, including CentOS, Debian,
#942 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> Ubuntu, Fedora, Suse, Slackware...
#943 [11:05] <Burnskagen> When I choose host for the server. Should I use a non-existant sub domain of my website?
#944 [11:05] <mbentley> contact your service provider and inform them that they suck
#945 [11:05] <Sami345> lol
#946 [11:06] <dopeghoti> Burnskagen: you're chosing a hostname, so yes, selecting a not-yet-used hostname would be prudent.
#947 [11:06] <Burnskagen> I can't find that control panel
#948 [11:06] <Burnskagen> I click boot but that just redirects me to the same page
#949 [11:06] <BurnZeZ> Burnskagen: ARGH. Everytime someone says your name, I get highlighted.
#950 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#951 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> Burnskagen - Could you maybe give us a screenshot of what you see?
#952 [11:07] <Burnskagen> yeah
#953 [11:07] <Kealper> 100ms jitter? 7% packet loss? o.o
#954 [11:08] <dopeghoti> BurnZeZ: that'll learn you to turn on 'highlight' for a probably-common subset of your name. That'd be like me having 'gh' ping me (only less so).
#955 [11:08] <Burnskagen> http://bb.xieke.com/files/44/Skjermbilde.png
#956 [11:08] <BurnZeZ> dopeghoti: My highlight is burn.
#957 [11:08] <dopeghoti> heh, last time I heard 'jitter', it was a video editing term.
#958 [11:08] <BurnZeZ> You can imagine how often it goes off.
#959 [11:08] <Kealper> xD
#960 [11:08] <dopeghoti> BurnZeZ: Perhaps make it 'Burnz'?
#961 [11:09] <BurnZeZ> Yeah. Doing that now.
#962 [11:09] <BurnZeZ> Done.
#963 [11:09] <dopeghoti> Burnskagen: looks like a normal VPS reboot interface
#964 [11:09] <Burnskagen> So what should I do? ^_^
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#966 [11:11] <Burnskagen> anyone?
#967 [11:11] <dopeghoti> Well, if the VPS is offling, and clicking 'boot' isn't bringing it _online_, and the vendor hasn't given you direct access ot the hypervisor, then open a support ticket and start shopping for a new vendor that does give you hypervisor access, especially for that price.
#968 [11:11] <Burnskagen> It is online, but I don't get any way to upload stuff
#969 [11:11] <Burnskagen> and I am not gonna buy a new one :/
#970 [11:11] <dopeghoti> you should have SSH access
#971 [11:11] <dopeghoti> which means you have SFTP/SCP access
#972 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> The website says it offers a SolusVM control panel
#973 [11:12] <Burnskagen> Status: Active I guess that means its online
#974 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> No idea where it could be in there
#975 [11:12] <dopeghoti> no, 'active' means the VPS management account is not suspended or terminated
#976 [11:12] <Burnskagen> ok
#977 [11:12] <dopeghoti> (or pending)
#978 [11:13] <dopeghoti> God, it's been a while since I've used Solus, screenshot of that interface please?
#979 [11:13] <Burnskagen> Full root access (Install your own software!)
#980 [11:13] <Burnskagen> SolusVM control panel (fast, secure, and easy to use!)
#981 [11:13] <Burnskagen> That is what they promise
#982 [11:13] <dopeghoti> (Solus would probably be the aforementioned hypervisor, so good)
#983 [11:13] <dopeghoti> that should have sent you an email with the information for accessing the SolusVM interface
#984 [11:14] <dopeghoti> Usually, hypervisor information is emailed separately
#985 [11:14] <Burnskagen> I'll check
#986 [11:14] <dopeghoti> Do it quickly; I need to go to work ;)
#987 [11:15] <dopeghoti> (so that I can kibitz here from there instead of doing my job, but hey)
#988 [11:15] <Burnskagen> You can access your server using a free simple SSH client program called Putty located at:
#989 [11:15] <Burnskagen> http://www.securitytools.net/mirrors/putty/
#990 [11:15] <Burnskagen> But that link doesnt work
#991 [11:16] <dopeghoti> okay, that's PuTTY, an SSH client
#992 [11:16] * GreyVulpine nods
#992 [11:16] <dopeghoti> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ is the link they SHOULD have given you though
#993 [11:16] <dopeghoti> look elsewhere in that email for your server's IP and default root password
#994 [11:16] <dopeghoti> as well as the SolusVM info
#995 [11:16] <Burnskagen> ok
#996 [11:17] <dopeghoti> This is a fairly standard WHCMS/VPS vendor kit they're using
#997 [11:18] <dopeghoti> I gots to go to work, if you're still here in an hour, I'll help you s'more ;)
#998 [11:18] <dopeghoti> good luck!
#999 [11:18] <Burnskagen> ok thanks :)
#1000 [11:19] <Burnskagen> How do I find the port?
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#1002 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> Port for
#1003 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> SSH/putty?
#1004 [11:20] <Burnskagen> nevermind
#1005 [11:21] <Burnskagen> it works now I think
#1006 [11:21] <Burnskagen> I got a console up
#1007 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> Great, can you log in?
#1008 [11:21] <Burnskagen> NOT SURE
#1009 [11:21] <Burnskagen> not sure
#1010 [11:22] <Burnskagen> It wont let me write a password
#1011 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> The password is always not echoed back
#1012 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> Just type it, it won't show up, but it will send
#1013 [11:22] <Burnskagen> ok
#1014 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> Security.. they don't call it Secure Shell for nothing
#1015 [11:23] <Kealper> lol
#1016 [11:24] <Burnskagen> What login info do I use? For the server or for the website
#1017 [11:24] <Burnskagen> root or VPSID1459
#1018 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> Whatever they sent you in the email
#1019 [11:24] <Burnskagen> they send both
#1020 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> Um
#1021 [11:24] <Burnskagen> I think I figured it out
#1022 [11:24] <Kealper> try the second one first, only use root if you need to install stuff
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#1025 [11:27] <Burnskagen> That gives me access denied, root worked though
#1026 [11:27] <Kealper> guess they didn't set up a standard level user account on that for you :/
#1027 [11:28] <Kealper> well...it's not a good idea to run all sorts of stuff like a minecraft server and such as root....because if someone finds out a way to use it to get in to your machine, they can do some serious damage if it's running as root
#1028 [11:28] <Burnskagen> They can get to my machine? :O
#1029 [11:29] <Kealper> if it's as a standard user, they can only screw up that user account, not take down the entire computer :/
#1030 [11:29] <Burnskagen> what should I do then?
#1031 [11:29] <Burnskagen> How do I make a user account
#1032 [11:29] <Kealper> simple, just create a new user account that has a fairly strong password, and use that instead of root lol
#1033 [11:29] <Valium> oh god, no offense, but L2Linux
#1034 [11:29] <mbentley> i hear password1 is a great root password
#1035 [11:30] <mbentley> toor is great too
#1036 [11:30] <Kealper> lol
#1037 [11:30] <Burnskagen> A new user in the console? I don't know how :(
#1038 [11:30] * Burnskagen is a noob
#1038 [11:30] <Kealper> gimme a sec
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#1040 [11:30] <Valium> Jebus, my USER account has 19 characters
#1041 [11:30] <mbentley> if you want to go uber secure, password123
#1042 [11:30] <mbentley> </sarcasm>
#1043 [11:30] <Kealper> Burnskagen: you are at the putty window, logged in?
#1044 [11:30] <Valium> mkuser <user> I believe
#1045 [11:31] <Burnskagen> I am in the console from putty yeah
#1046 [11:31] <Kealper> iirc it would be: useradd username
#1047 [11:31] <Kealper> where username would be the username you wanted
#1048 [11:31] <Valium> thats it
#1049 [11:31] <Valium> then passwd <username>
#1050 [11:32] <Burnskagen> ok
#1051 [11:33] <Kealper> if you have the username with the password you want, close the putty window, and open it back up again, then login with that new account
#1052 [11:34] <Burnskagen> I did ;)
#1053 [11:34] <Burnskagen> now what?
#1054 [11:34] <Kealper> depends....what did you want to do? lol
#1055 [11:35] <Burnskagen> Set up a running minecraft server
#1056 [11:35] <Kealper> uhh....type java -version
#1057 [11:35] <Kealper> and what os is it running?
#1058 [11:36] <Burnskagen> java -version gives command not found
#1059 [11:36] <Burnskagen> I dunno what OS it is
#1060 [11:36] <Burnskagen> I think it is linux but I am not sure
#1061 [11:36] <Valium> type uname
#1062 [11:36] <Burnskagen> yup, linux
#1063 [11:36] <Kealper> well we knew it was linux lol
#1064 [11:37] <Kealper> but there are different types of linux, which have different commands
#1065 [11:37] * Kealper is guessing CentOS
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#1066 [11:37] <Burnskagen> All it said was Linux
#1067 [11:37] <Burnskagen> version
#1068 [11:37] <Burnskagen> it didnt say
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#1070 [11:38] <Kealper> hmm....
#1071 [11:39] <Kealper> i'm not linux-savvy enough to know how to get the actual distro name....
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#1073 [11:39] <Kealper> type yum
#1074 [11:39] <Valium> log out then back in
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#1076 [11:39] <Valium> it should be ain the login info
#1077 [11:39] <monkey> hi, i've been getting some weird bug where a segment of the world not loaded, is this common?
#1078 [11:39] <Valium> yep
#1079 [11:40] <Kealper> monkey: sadly, yes :/
#1080 [11:40] <Kealper> monkey: log out and log back in, it will be there again
#1081 [11:40] <monkey> yup, relog does work
#1082 [11:40] <monkey> it's weird because it's always the same segment that doesn't load
#1083 [11:41] <Burnskagen> I logged back in after writing yum
#1084 [11:41] <Kealper> did yum work?
#1085 [11:41] <Burnskagen> it didnt do anything
#1086 [11:42] <Kealper> ok then, it's not CentOS
#1087 [11:42] <Kealper> type apt-get
#1088 [11:42] <Burnskagen> command not found
#1089 [11:42] <Kealper> aptitude?
#1090 [11:42] <Burnskagen> what is that?
#1091 [11:43] <Burnskagen> I am not english
#1092 [11:43] <Kealper> no, i mean type aptitude lol
#1093 [11:43] <Burnskagen> oh, I did too, it gave command not found
#1094 [11:43] <Kealper> hmm >.>
#1095 [11:44] <Kealper> and yum was not found either?
#1096 [11:44] <Burnskagen> nope
#1097 [11:44] <Kealper> well....i have no idea what distro you have on there then...
#1098 [11:44] <Burnskagen> wait
#1099 [11:44] <Burnskagen> yum worked
#1100 [11:44] <Burnskagen> I must have misspelled it first
#1101 [11:44] <Burnskagen> it worked now
#1102 [11:44] <Kealper> oh...then it's probably CentOS after all
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#1105 [11:45] <Kealper> ok, type su
#1106 [11:45] <Kealper> then type in your root password
#1107 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Um, you can find what flavor of *nix it's running by typing uname
#1108 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> just uname -r
#1109 [11:46] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: centos doesn't say anything doing that
#1110 [11:46] <Kealper> well...it does not say the version if it
#1111 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Bwah?
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#1113 [11:46] <Kealper> ~]$ uname -r
#1114 [11:46] <Kealper> 2.6.18-164.el5PAE
#1115 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> Oh, right
#1116 [11:47] <Kealper> is all mine says, and mine is centos 5.5
#1117 [11:47] <Kealper> anyways.. Burnskagen did you log in as root with the su command?
#1118 [11:47] <Burnskagen> yes
#1119 [11:48] <Kealper> type yum search jdk
#1120 [11:48] <Kealper> the first result it finds should be the one you want
#1121 [11:48] <Kealper> the description will say something like OpenJDK Runtime Enviroment
#1122 [11:49] <Burnskagen> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
#1123 [11:49] <Burnskagen> Determining fastest mirrors
#1124 [11:49] <Burnskagen> * base: centos.mirror.netriplex.com
#1125 [11:49] <Burnskagen> * updates: mirror.its.uidaho.edu
#1126 [11:49] <Burnskagen> * addons: centos.omnispring.com
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#1129 [11:49] <Silberpfote> hi
#1130 [11:49] <Kealper> Burnskagen: lol
#1131 [11:49] <Burnskagen> back
#1132 [11:49] <Kealper> you flooded yourself off the network :P
#1133 [11:49] <Burnskagen> I tried to paste the result
#1134 [11:49] <Burnskagen> sorry
#1135 [11:49] <Kealper> yeah...it will return a lot
#1136 [11:50] <Burnskagen> It is a lot, and I dont know what I am looking for
#1137 [11:50] <Kealper> do you see one that says OpenJDK Runtime Enviroment?
#1138 [11:50] <Kealper> when i do the search, mine is the first result shown
#1139 [11:50] <Burnskagen> java-1.6.0-openjdk.i386 : OpenJDK Runtime Environment
#1140 [11:50] <Kealper> ok, type yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk.i386
#1141 [11:51] <Kealper> that should automatically download/install/setup java on your server
#1142 [11:52] <monkey> I haven't been keeping update on what's fixed and what's not, can someone tell me anything that I shouldn't be doing in smp?
#1143 [11:52] <TheReddeH> l'eau
#1144 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> monkey, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs
#1145 [11:53] <Kealper> Burnskagen: is it installing?
#1146 [11:53] <Burnskagen> yesd
#1147 [11:53] <Burnskagen> yes
#1148 [11:53] <monkey> thanks alot GreyVupine
#1149 [11:53] <Kealper> ok, when it's done, type java -version again to make sure it worked
#1150 [11:54] <Kealper> and i gotta go for a fwe hours, so GreyVulpine can tell you how to get minecraft server on it
#1151 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> As for as major bugs, all the ones that made SMP unplayable in the past, are fixed, you can use redstone, minecarts/tracks, without problems
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#1153 [11:55] <Burnskagen> It worked
#1154 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Does java -version give you a version now?
#1155 [11:56] <Burnskagen> java version "1.6.0_17"
#1156 [11:56] <Burnskagen> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.7.5) (rhel-1.16.b17.el5-i386)
#1157 [11:56] <Burnskagen> OpenJDK Server VM (build 14.0-b16, mixed mode)
#1158 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Alright, neat
#1159 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Are you still running as root?
#1160 [11:57] <Burnskagen> No
#1161 [11:57] <Burnskagen> I made a user
#1162 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Okay.
#1163 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> What directory are you in right now? (pwd)
#1164 [11:58] <Burnskagen> dunno :P
#1165 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> Type in: pwd
#1166 [11:58] <Burnskagen> home/nameofuserimade
#1167 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Alright. You'll want to start with making a directory in which to put your minecraft server in.
#1168 [11:59] <Burnskagen> ok
#1169 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Type in: mkdir nameofdirectory
#1170 [11:59] <Burnskagen> ok
#1171 [11:59] <Burnskagen> did it
#1172 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Okay, type: ls
#1173 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> do you see the directory listed there now?
#1174 [12:00] <Burnskagen> Is?
#1175 [12:00] <Burnskagen> ls
#1176 [12:00] <Burnskagen> yes
#1177 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> yes, on your console
#1178 [12:00] <Burnskagen> I see it
#1179 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Okay, you can change to it by typing: cd nameofdirectory
#1180 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> That should bring you inside that directory.
#1181 [12:01] <Burnskagen> ok
#1182 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> Now, you'll want to download the minecraft server with:
#1183 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> wget http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar
#1184 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Let me know when it finishes downloading
#1185 [12:02] <Burnskagen> yeah
#1186 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Alright
#1187 [12:02] <Burnskagen> done
#1188 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> How much ram did you say you got with the package?
#1189 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> The VPS
#1190 [12:03] <Burnskagen> lemme check
#1191 [12:03] <Burnskagen> 1GB Dedicated RAM
#1192 [12:03] <Burnskagen> 2GB Burst RAM
#1193 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> Okay
#1194 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Start your server with:
#1195 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#1196 [12:05] <Burnskagen> Unrecognized option: -
#1197 [12:05] <Burnskagen> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
#1198 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm? Is that the full error?
#1199 [12:05] <Burnskagen> yea
#1200 [12:06] <Burnskagen> java -Xmx1024M - Xms1024 -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#1201 [12:06] <Burnskagen> was that correct?
#1202 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> No space after the 2nd dash
#1203 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> -Xms
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#1205 [12:06] <Burnskagen> Error occurred during initialization of VM
#1206 [12:06] <Burnskagen> Too small initial heap
#1207 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> And there needs to be an M after the 2nd 1024
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#1209 [12:07] <Burnskagen> oh
#1210 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> otherwise you're initializing with 1024 bytes
#1211 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Bit small
#1212 [12:07] <Burnskagen> There :D
#1213 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> Launched? Done?
#1214 [12:08] <Burnskagen> Preparing spawn area
#1215 [12:08] <Burnskagen> Any place I can learn more about this console?
#1216 [12:08] <Burnskagen> I wanna know it better
#1217 [12:08] <Burnskagen> :P
#1218 [12:08] <Burnskagen> How to do stuff
#1219 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> There's tons of sites around on Linux Commands.
#1220 [12:09] <Burnskagen> What should I search for, linux commands?
#1221 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> *nix itself, has a "man" command, to look up manual pages on commands
#1222 [12:09] <Burnskagen> ok :)
#1223 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Say you wanted to know all the different types of arguments for the ls command, you'd type in: man ls
#1224 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> But yeah, google linux commands.
#1225 [12:10] <xales> http://linuxcommand.org
#1226 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure there's other people in here with better tutorial pages, I haven't touched a *nix machine in a few years
#1227 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> Thanks xales.
#1228 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> Burnskagen - Now that the server's running, can you connect with a client?
#1229 [12:11] <Burnskagen> I am in the server right now :D
#1230 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> Great
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#1232 [12:12] <Burnskagen> It lags a little bit, any way to fix that?
#1233 [12:12] <Burnskagen> Almost unoticable
#1234 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> Really depends on what type of lag it is.
#1235 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> If you hold down f3, what does the FPS say?
#1236 [12:13] <Burnskagen> 53
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#1238 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> It will lag slightly with a new world, as the server generates chunks, that's normal
#1239 [12:14] <Burnskagen> ok
#1240 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Is it lagging right now, as you stand in one place, looking around?
#1241 [12:14] <Burnskagen> thanks for everything
#1242 [12:14] <Burnskagen> no
#1243 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Okay, than yeah, it's probably generating new chunks as you move around
#1244 [12:14] <Burnskagen> Thanks dude, I would never have made it without you :D
#1245 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Kealper did most of the hard work there.
#1246 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> But, glad you got it working.
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#1248 [12:15] <Burnskagen> Well, thanks Kealper, and thank you
#1249 [12:16] <dopeghoti> Morning, kids
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#1251 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> 'lo DopeGhoti
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#1253 [12:19] <ArchmasterDragon> Greetings
#1254 [12:19] <DopeGhoti> I see y'all got Burns on eir way.
#1255 [12:19] <DopeGhoti> Salut, ArchmasterDragon.
#1256 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> mmhmm
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#1261 [12:22] <ArchmasterDragon> I am wondering (even though I know it's against Notch who has created really great game) Can you guys help me with few problems of minecraft even though I have torrented it ( I had cerebral hemorrhage 3½ years ago and because of a story so long I won't bother typing it here) The thing is that my financial situation sucks
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#1263 [12:22] <ArchmasterDragon> Due to the bureaucracy in here and that's also apart to the story
#1264 [12:22] <Burnskagen> Must the putty app be running for the server to be up? :/
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#1266 [12:23] <Burnskagen> Cause when I closed it the server stopped
#1267 [12:23] <Burnskagen> any way to make it run on its own
#1268 [12:24] <Burnskagen> hello?
#1269 [12:25] <Burnskagen> Do anyone know?
#1270 [12:25] <DopeGhoti> 98f7a297e08f283a1b6fd2a4ab17ef71 /home/ghoti/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
#1271 [12:26] <Burnskagen> Should I type that?
#1272 [12:26] <DopeGhoti> 103d9f6051a4c45164cb2f571dd58594 /home/ghoti/.ssh/authorized_keys
#1273 [12:26] <Burnskagen> :O
#1274 [12:26] <DopeGhoti> 997d25952280e4250368c9f716e1fa5a -
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#1276 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> I'm so sorry
#1277 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> I thought I was outputting to another channel
#1278 [12:28] <ArchmasterDragon> I have problem getting server running properly. I can get the server running and it creates a world, but when my character spawns on the world there is nothing in there. You can see sky, animals, enemies and some fire below, but there's no land, no rock no nothing. The player is spawned onto nothing
#1279 [12:30] <Burnskagen> Oh damn, I messed up
#1280 [12:30] <Burnskagen> no I can't even restart it :O
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#1282 [12:30] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: could you be more specific?
#1283 [12:30] <DopeGhoti> ArchmasterDragon: Any unusual log entries?
#1284 [12:30] <Burnskagen> I got a long ass error
#1285 [12:31] <ArchmasterDragon> Nothing
#1286 [12:31] <ArchmasterDragon> It runs like nothing is wrong
#1287 [12:31] <DopeGhoti> ArchmasterDragon: But you see the client connection messages, yes?
#1288 [12:31] <ArchmasterDragon> no errors no nothing, the character just falls down and respawns back up
#1289 [12:31] <DopeGhoti> Hmm.. Have you tried reconnecting the client?
#1290 [12:31] <ArchmasterDragon> Yeah, could it be the problem tha the server and the minecraft runs on the same computer and I use multiplayer input as localhost
#1291 [12:31] <ArchmasterDragon> yeah
#1292 [12:32] <Burnskagen> http://bb.xieke.com/files/46/Skjermbilde.png
#1293 [12:32] <Burnskagen> there is my error
#1294 [12:32] <Burnskagen> and I have a question. Do the console need to be running for the server to be up?
#1295 [12:32] <Burnskagen> Or is it a way to make it always run
#1296 [12:32] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: First, use pastebin for errors liek that, pelase
#1297 [12:33] <DopeGhoti> second, install Screen (CentOS? As root, `yum install screen`) which is a good utility for keeping programs running after you log out
#1298 [12:33] <DopeGhoti> ArchmasterDragon: try shutting down the server, deleting the world directory, and starting it back up?
#1299 [12:34] <ArchmasterDragon> Done that once, but I can try it again, just a second
#1300 [12:35] <ArchmasterDragon> Same problem
#1301 [12:36] <ArchmasterDragon> small pieces of land appeared, but still mainly nothing solid beneath characters feet
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#1303 [12:36] <ArchmasterDragon> Maybe the server is creating the land so slowly ? Is that possible ?
#1304 [12:37] <ArchmasterDragon> although the server software reports that it has done preparing the spawning area
#1305 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> ArchmasterDragon: It sounds like the client isn't getting the terrain info from the server
#1306 [12:37] <Burnskagen> what do I do now?
#1307 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> running any mods at all?
#1308 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: okay, so: you've installed screen, and you're logged in as a non-root user, correct?
#1309 [12:38] <Burnskagen> yes
#1310 [12:39] <DopeGhoti> Okay, type `screen -S mc-server` and press Enter. The screen should clear and nothing will (appear to) happen.
#1311 [12:40] <ArchmasterDragon> Have I placed the server software completely wrong ? I readed the minewiki and other helpful posts, but nothing specific was reported, I downloaded the minecraftserver beta.exe and placed it inside own folder so it's not attached to the minecraft game. Is that the reason why the server refuses to create the world properly ? Sorry to be this noob
#1312 [12:40] <Burnskagen> I did
#1313 [12:40] <ArchmasterDragon> I have worked with many games as a player and a hoster, but all games has their own tweeks to make them work properly
#1314 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> ArchmasterDragon: no, that sounds right
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#1316 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: type `java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui` and press Enter.
#1317 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> ArchmasterDragon: however, running the client and server on the same machine can be problematic
#1318 [12:41] <ArchmasterDragon> I see
#1319 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> ArchmasterDragon: what are your system's vital statas?
#1320 [12:41] <lolwut> any update on the migration of the servers or an eta for when its gona be done
#1321 [12:42] <DopeGhoti> lolwut: it's more or less done.
#1322 [12:42] <lolwut> ok cool
#1323 [12:42] <ArchmasterDragon> Too bad, because I have few older computers, but 1 is dedicated Windows 98 SE, and the other is for Windows XP
#1324 [12:42] <lolwut> i have an old 386 that runs win 95
#1325 [12:43] <Burnskagen> I get that error
#1326 [12:43] <ArchmasterDragon> The world is being created but slowly
#1327 [12:43] <Burnskagen> http://pastebin.com/W6Hg29xL
#1328 [12:43] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: could you pastebin the output of `ls -la`?
#1329 [12:43] <ArchmasterDragon> Old hardware is the best XD
#1330 [12:43] <lolwut> have to boot it up using dos mode
#1331 [12:43] <ArchmasterDragon> Finally landed on beach
#1332 [12:43] <Burnskagen> that was the error
#1333 [12:43] <Burnskagen> I will get the one you asked for too
#1334 [12:43] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: thanks.
#1335 [12:44] <Burnskagen> http://pastebin.com/W6Hg29xL
#1336 [12:44] <ArchmasterDragon> It looks like the server is creating the world, but I'm not sure is my computer too slow or is the server lacking enough memory allocation
#1337 [12:44] <ArchmasterDragon> World has been finally created
#1338 [12:44] <ArchmasterDragon> I think I was too impatient
#1339 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> ArchmasterDragon: What sort of horstpower has your computer got?
#1340 [12:45] <Burnskagen> Should I delete and reinstall the server software?
#1341 [12:45] <Burnskagen> for minecraft
#1342 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: that was the same pastebin; what's the output of that ls command?
#1343 [12:46] <Burnskagen> sorry
#1344 [12:46] <Burnskagen> http://pastebin.com/2rYmRAmS
#1345 [12:46] <ArchmasterDragon> I think it's lame, Intel i7 920 2,67Ghz in hyperthread, 6Gb ram and 2x 8800GTS 512.
#1346 [12:46] <ArchmasterDragon> I have been planning updating this computer a bit
#1347 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: okay, the problem is that all the files are owned by root, and not your nonroot user
#1348 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> type `su -` and press enter
#1349 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> it will ask for your root password
#1350 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> (when typing passwords, you will not see any *s or anything; this is normal)
#1351 [12:47] <Burnskagen> ok, and now I run it again
#1352 [12:47] <Burnskagen> ?
#1353 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> no
#1354 [12:47] <Burnskagen> ok
#1355 [12:47] <ArchmasterDragon> Another problems arises now, the game keeps spawning me at the same point when I move
#1356 [12:48] <Burnskagen> su info
#1357 [12:48] <DopeGhoti> run this: `chown -R burnskagen:burnskagen ./*`
#1358 [12:48] <Burnskagen> sorry
#1359 [12:49] <DopeGhoti> then type `exit` and press Enter, assuming no errors; then up-arrow 'till you get to the java command again, and rerun it
#1360 [12:49] <Burnskagen> mchost ~]# chown -R burnskagen:burnskagen./*
#1361 [12:49] <Burnskagen> chown: missing operand after `burnskagen:burnskagen./*'
#1362 [12:49] <Burnskagen> Try `chown --help' for more information.
#1363 [12:49] <DopeGhoti> put a space between the 'n' and the '.'.
#1364 [12:50] <Burnskagen> [root@mchost ~]# chown -R burnskagen:burnskagen ./*
#1365 [12:50] <Burnskagen> chown: cannot access `./*': No such file or directory
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#1368 [12:50] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#1369 [12:50] <Burnskagen> I saved the file in a directory called minecraft
#1370 [12:50] <Burnskagen> GreyVulpine told me to =)
#1371 [12:51] <Steampoweredcat> wait wait wait, there's a directory called minecraft ?
#1372 [12:51] <Burnskagen> I am in that directory
#1373 [12:51] <Burnskagen> yes, that the file is in
#1374 [12:51] <DopeGhoti> run this: `chown -R burnskagen:burnskagen ~burnskagen`
#1375 [12:51] <DopeGhoti> that should give you no errors.
#1376 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> Steampoweredcat: root-owned files in the non-privileged user's home.
#1377 [12:52] <Burnskagen> I can't get the ~
#1378 [12:52] <Burnskagen> :/
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#1380 [12:52] <Burnskagen> It send me back in the line
#1381 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> that's odd
#1382 [12:53] <DopeGhoti> this should also work: `chown -R burnskagen:burnskagen /home/burnskagen`
#1383 [12:53] <Burnskagen> no errors
#1384 [12:53] <Burnskagen> :)
#1385 [12:54] <DopeGhoti> good- now type 'exit', and your prompt should once again look like [burnskagen@mchost minecraft]$
#1386 [12:54] <Burnskagen> what's next?
#1387 [12:54] <Burnskagen> oh ok
#1388 [12:54] <Burnskagen> it does =)
#1389 [12:54] <DopeGhoti> up-arrow back to the java command and re-run it
#1390 [12:55] <Burnskagen> O_o weird. I still get the error
#1391 [12:55] <DopeGhoti> Same error? "permission denied"?
#1392 [12:55] <Burnskagen> http://pastebin.com/wU8ERG66
#1393 [12:56] <Burnskagen> there it is. Not sure if it is the same
#1394 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> that's weird
#1395 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> it looks both like it's started the server and failed to do so
#1396 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> do you have another command prompt, or is the cursor just linking away on its own line?
#1397 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> er, blinking
#1398 [12:58] <Burnskagen> I'm not sure what you mean, but I have only one console window
#1399 [12:58] <Burnskagen> and the cursor is a green box
#1400 [12:58] <Burnskagen> not blinking
#1401 [12:58] <DopeGhoti> Yes, but is the corsor on another normal command prompt, or is the line upon which the cursor now sits, empty?
#1402 [12:58] <Burnskagen> [burnskagen@mchost minecraft]$
#1403 [12:58] <Burnskagen> thats all
#1404 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> okay
#1405 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> so the server is in fact still not running
#1406 [12:59] <Burnskagen> Perhaps reinstalling?
#1407 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> give me again the output of `ls -la` and also this time `pwd`
#1408 [13:00] <Burnskagen> http://pastebin.com/bxQqHKXT
#1409 [13:00] <Burnskagen> both are in there
#1410 [13:00] <DopeGhoti> odd; it looks like the chown command never ran
#1411 [13:00] <ArchmasterDragon> Well the respawn has eased, but sometimes stil does that, not so much. Picking up items are problem sometimes and the damage giving/receiving looks like lag issue. I do damage, but takes few sec until mob receives it and mobs shoot at the air and on to the ground, sometims through me like I would be somewhere else, damage comes a bit later
#1412 [13:01] <Burnskagen> Perhaps I did something wrong. We can try again
#1413 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> let's delete those files and start over
#1414 [13:01] <Burnskagen> ok
#1415 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> `su -` and the root password again
#1416 [13:01] <Burnskagen> done
#1417 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> then `cd /home/burnskagen` followed by `rm -rf minecraft`
#1418 [13:02] <Burnskagen> done, rm -rf minecraft returned nothing
#1419 [13:02] <ArchmasterDragon> I'll fiddle with the server software later. Thanks for helping me guys. Maybe I come back if more issues comes, I'll have to test that myself. I'm going to use hamachi for testing
#1420 [13:02] <Burnskagen> just sent me to a new line
#1421 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: good.
#1422 [13:02] <Burnskagen> ok
#1423 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> now `exit`, followed by `cd` and `whoami` - the output should be your name
#1424 [13:03] <Burnskagen> damn, suddenly it closed
#1425 [13:03] <Burnskagen> (my computer sucks)
#1426 [13:04] <Burnskagen> let me restars I am so sorry
#1427 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> okay, SSH back in and use your username, not root.
#1428 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> we must have exited one time too many. no worries
#1429 [13:06] <Burnskagen> So, it doesn't ask me for login information. It just waits a while then give connection timeout D:
#1430 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#1431 [13:07] <Burnskagen> I hate my computer right now
#1432 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> Sounds like your VPS is either shutting down or rebooting
#1433 [13:07] <Burnskagen> hmm, I'll check it out
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#1436 [13:08] <Burnskagen> I made it reboot, I'll try again now
#1437 [13:10] <Burnskagen> D:
#1438 [13:10] <Burnskagen> it keeps happening
#1439 [13:10] <Burnskagen> Why did this have to happen now?
#1440 [13:11] <Burnskagen> >:(
#1441 [13:11] <DopeGhoti> Give it a few minutes to finish rebooting
#1442 [13:11] <DopeGhoti> then try again.
#1443 [13:11] <Burnskagen> ok
#1444 [13:11] * he_who_doth_slumber has woken up
#1444 [13:12] <DopeGhoti> morning, aetherian.
#1445 [13:13] <Burnskagen> I'll be back in 5 mins
#1446 [13:15] <aetherian> morn
#1447 [13:15] <aetherian> someone set the viewing distance to tiny over here
#1448 [13:15] <aetherian> too much fog
#1449 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> It's more atmospheric though
#1450 [13:16] <aetherian> too cold
#1451 [13:16] <aetherian> but what with the sun coming up, it's less frightening
#1452 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> Easily solved by keeping a bucket of magma in your back pocket.
#1453 [13:17] <aetherian> OMIGOD IT BURNS
#1454 [13:17] <aetherian> gee thanks a lot
#1455 [13:17] <aetherian> I just lost all my diamonds
#1456 [13:17] <aetherian> irl
#1457 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> All zero of them?
#1458 [13:17] <Sami345> ...
#1459 [13:17] <aetherian> yeah. now I got to find zero all over again
#1460 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> Well, that was quick, now you've found thrice as many,
#1461 [13:18] <Sami345> 20:17 -!- #minecraft Cannot send to channel
#1462 [13:18] <Sami345> why is this?
#1463 [13:18] <aetherian> OMIGOD WTF BOOM
#1464 [13:18] <aetherian> dopeghoti
#1465 [13:18] <aetherian> you divided by zero
#1466 [13:18] <aetherian> :O
#1467 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> no, I multiplied by zero.
#1468 [13:18] <aetherian> in order to check your work, one must divide
#1469 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> Sami345: are you registered with nickerv?
#1470 [13:19] <Sami345> idk
#1471 [13:19] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: I'm confident in my arithmetic. And to check 0*3=0, you divide 0/3, which is 0.
#1472 [13:19] <Sami345> connected to too mnay servers :D
#1473 [13:19] <DopeGhoti> no divizion by zero; arithmetic fail, aetherian.
#1474 [13:19] <aetherian> I saw it as 3*0
#1475 [13:19] <aetherian> 3/0=[*---
#1476 [13:20] <DopeGhoti> thrice as many as zero would the zero, tripled, or 0 * 3.
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#1478 [13:20] <DopeGhoti> not three nullified, or 3 * 0
#1479 [13:20] <aetherian> whice given my twisted mine
#1480 [13:20] <aetherian> my mind automatically used whatever that property of multi is called
#1481 [13:20] <aetherian> and checked both sides
#1482 [13:20] <DopeGhoti> (of course, multiplaction is commutative, it's division that is not)
#1483 [13:21] <aetherian> precisely
#1484 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> Of course I'm precise; we're talking math here.
#1485 [13:22] <aetherian> dopefish: what are we arguing about again?
#1486 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> This is far to civil to be styled as an argument.
#1487 [13:23] * aetherian shoves a rusty jackhammer down dopeghoti's ear
#1487 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> That's more like it.
#1488 [13:23] * aetherian flicks the switch
#1488 [13:23] <aetherian> >:D
#1489 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> Sorry? I can't hear you over this noise!
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#1491 [13:24] * aetherian slaps dopeghoti upwards on the chin
#1491 [13:24] <aetherian> there, that got rid of the hammer
#1492 [13:25] <aetherian> and you still have one ear left
#1493 [13:25] <aetherian> :)
#1494 [13:26] <DopeGhoti> eye dee dee queue dee. And also, up up down down left right left right bee ay start.
#1495 [13:26] * DopeGhoti is now immortal, and has 30 1-ups just in case.
#1495 [13:26] * aetherian sets spawnkill=true
#1495 [13:27] <aetherian> ha
#1496 [13:28] <Burnskagen> back
#1497 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> Front.
#1498 [13:28] <Burnskagen> and it is still the same issue it seems :/ Now I am really annoyed
#1499 [13:29] <Burnskagen> Any sollution?
#1500 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: sounds like it's time to open a support ticket with your VPS vendor if you can no longer SSH into your VPS.
#1501 [13:29] <Burnskagen> But it worked earlier, what may have happened? :O
#1502 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> VPSs are squirrely, any number of things could have happened
#1503 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> that's why I prefer bare metal.
#1504 [13:33] <Burnskagen> I sent a ticket. Damn, how fast do they fix it you think? :(
#1505 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: depends. Some vendors answer within minutes; some take up to a day.
#1506 [13:39] <aetherian> hmm
#1507 [13:39] <aetherian> anyone know of a good python IDE?
#1508 [13:39] <aetherian> (free)
#1509 [13:40] <aetherian> (because this has everything to do with minecrafthelp)
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#1511 [13:42] <DopeGhoti> vim?
#1512 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> I take it IDLE isn't doing the trick?
#1513 [13:45] <LordEddi> Hm, wish there was a timestamp ability in the server GUI.
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#1515 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> LordEddi: the server doesn't timestamp the logs with the GUI enabled? Weird.
#1516 [13:55] <LordEddi> Hm. I wanted it directly in the GUI to be honest, didnt even think of looking in the log files >.>
#1517 [13:56] <LordEddi> But yeah, it does timestamp it in the .log file so I guess i can check that out from time to time.
#1518 [13:58] <LordEddi> hehe, bought minecraft for a few friends, and setup a server..
#1519 [13:58] <LordEddi> Now another one of my friends are whining at me, because apparantly I am killing his WoW guild xD
#1520 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> haha
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#1522 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> good riddance
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#1525 [14:03] <Burnskagen> Hi guys
#1526 [14:04] <Burnskagen> I got in again
#1527 [14:04] <Burnskagen> dunno if they fixed it or what
#1528 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> yay
#1529 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> so, wehre were we?
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#1531 [14:04] <Burnskagen> Not sure :)
#1532 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> right, are you logged in as yourself, or as root?
#1533 [14:04] <Burnskagen> myself
#1534 [14:04] <zampa> LordEddi: That's a smart idea.
#1535 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> `mkdir minecraft`, then `cd minecraft`.
#1536 [14:05] <zampa> LordEddi: I should do the same. :>
#1537 [14:05] <zampa> For my friends that is.
#1538 [14:05] <Burnskagen> ok
#1539 [14:05] <Burnskagen> done
#1540 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> `wget http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar`
#1541 [14:05] <ftw> I'm a fan of Quanta, aetherian, if you want something GUI-based
#1542 [14:05] <ftw> Other than that, pico all the way baby
#1543 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> pico? Ewwww
#1544 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> May as well use joe.
#1545 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> vim <3
#1546 [14:06] <Burnskagen> done
#1547 [14:06] <ftw> I've used that as well.
#1548 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: did it appear to have downloaded a file?
#1549 [14:07] <Burnskagen> yes. it says 'minecraft_server.jar' saved [xxx/xxx]
#1550 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> super
#1551 [14:07] <zampa> DopeGhoti: how much ram do you tihnk a server needs for like 2 players?
#1552 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> `screen -S mc-server`
#1553 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> zampa: 1GB, plus headroom for the OS
#1554 [14:07] <zampa> Oh drats.
#1555 [14:07] <Burnskagen> done
#1556 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: press ctrl-R, then type java; then press Enter
#1557 [14:08] <Burnskagen> long reply
#1558 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> No erros though?
#1559 [14:08] <Burnskagen> no
#1560 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> type 'help' - do you get a list of commands?
#1561 [14:09] <Burnskagen> I do
#1562 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> your server is now online
#1563 [14:09] <Burnskagen> yay :D can I close the console?
#1564 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> to detatch from the screen with the server still running, press Ctrl-A, then d
#1565 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> _then_ you can close the console
#1566 [14:09] <zampa> DopeGhoti: so 300 MB free ram wont get me anywhere? :/
#1567 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> to reattach to the server console, log back in, then type 'screen -x'
#1568 [14:10] <Burnskagen> ok
#1569 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> zampa: it'll get you about a quarter-way there
#1570 [14:10] <BarryCarlyon> I got away with running a 4 player server on 500mb on al iinux server.
#1571 [14:10] <BarryCarlyon> only problem was my upload bandwidth.
#1572 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> I bet it ran _great_, too
#1573 [14:11] <BarryCarlyon> It atually did to be honest.
#1574 [14:11] <Burnskagen> Hmm... I get "java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 72" :O
#1575 [14:11] <Burnskagen> In minecraft
#1576 [14:11] <zampa> DopeGhoti: i guess it all depends on haw far you explore...
#1577 [14:11] <zampa> Right?
#1578 [14:11] <BarryCarlyon> DopeGhoti: the machine is over a decade old and will happily manage 4-6 players.
#1579 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> zampa: the server allocates itself 1GiB on startup
#1580 [14:11] <zampa> Oh...
#1581 [14:11] <BarryCarlyon> When they are all off at different parts of hte map in can drab, but general does quite wel..
#1582 [14:12] <LordEddi> zampa: Works great.
#1583 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> if the machine has to dip into swap space for any reason, you server will lag terribly
#1584 [14:12] <LordEddi> I bought a license for two of them.
#1585 [14:12] <BarryCarlyon> The extra non ram space takes from swap.
#1586 [14:12] <LordEddi> Now we are basicly nine people playing.
#1587 [14:12] <LordEddi> Nine people from a casual raiding guild in WoW xD
#1588 [14:12] <BarryCarlyon> Anywho server is now on a VPS.
#1589 [14:12] <LordEddi> casual 10 man raiding guildinfact.
#1590 [14:12] <Burnskagen> I get "java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 72" :O in minecraft
#1591 [14:13] <Burnskagen> you know what that means? :sS
#1592 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> That means someone's client or server is either modded or out of date.
#1593 [14:14] <Burnskagen> So I should basically download minecraft again? =)
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#1595 [14:14] <LordEddi> Burnskagen: Depends really, it might be the server and not your client.
#1596 [14:15] <Burnskagen> But I downloaded the server about a minute ago
#1597 [14:15] <LordEddi> 1.2_01 ?
#1598 [14:15] <Burnskagen> dunno, it's on my VPS
#1599 [14:16] <LordEddi> It says when you start the server.
#1600 [14:16] <Burnskagen> I downloaded again. And I get another error
#1601 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> LordEddi: we just wgot the server jar a little bit ago
#1602 [14:16] <LordEddi> Ah, ok.
#1603 [14:16] <LordEddi> DopeGhoti: Do you know if /setspawn and /home still works by the way?
#1604 [14:16] <Burnskagen> Now I get connection refused
#1605 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> LordEddi: the first command was never part of Survival; the latter was replaced by /kill
#1606 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: did you terminate the server?
#1607 [14:17] <LordEddi> Ok.
#1608 [14:17] <Burnskagen> Terminate?
#1609 [14:17] <LordEddi> Meh, i want that in survival aswell :p
#1610 [14:17] <Burnskagen> like, close the window?
#1611 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: like, stop the server.
#1612 [14:17] <zampa> DopeGhoti: hmm ctrl-R thats reverse-i-search?
#1613 [14:17] <Burnskagen> At least not on purpose
#1614 [14:18] <Burnskagen> [burnskagen@mchost minecraft]$ screen -S mc-server
#1615 [14:18] <Burnskagen> [detached]
#1616 [14:18] <Burnskagen> [burnskagen@mchost minecraft]$
#1617 [14:18] <Burnskagen> my last lines
#1618 [14:18] <zampa> trying to get a server started myself. :>
#1619 [14:18] <LordEddi> i tried running on on my atom processor..
#1620 [14:19] <LordEddi> on linux. Didnt work to great.
#1621 [14:19] <Burnskagen> We didn't run the file if I remember correctly
#1622 [14:19] <Burnskagen> what was the command?
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#1624 [14:19] <Auxilium> Where can i send crash reports of Minecraft client?
#1625 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: `screen -x`
#1626 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> that'll reattach you to the server console
#1627 [14:21] <Burnskagen> I'm there
#1628 [14:21] <Burnskagen> done
#1629 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: pastebin the last few lines you see there.
#1630 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> hell, it's text, give us the last screenful
#1631 [14:22] <Burnskagen> There are no lines :/
#1632 [14:22] <Burnskagen> oh wait it is
#1633 [14:22] <Burnskagen> it was just scrolled down, I am stupid XD
#1634 [14:23] <Burnskagen> http://pastebin.com/fa5Q7Z4j
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#1636 [14:24] <zampa> lol i cant even istall java on the ubuntu server i fail in *nix. :>
#1637 [14:24] <LordEddi> hehe
#1638 [14:24] <zampa> what is th epackage called? :>
#1639 [14:25] <mbentley> sun-java6-jre\
#1640 [14:25] <mbentley> sun-java6-jre\
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#1642 [14:25] <mbentley> sun-java6-jre
#1643 [14:25] <mbentley> lol
#1644 [14:25] <mbentley> backspace key wasn't cooperating
#1645 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> you need the multiverse repo enabled though
#1646 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> if BkSp is broken, use ^H
#1647 [14:25] <zampa> E: Package 'sun-java6-jre' has no installation candidate
#1648 [14:25] <mbentley> usually found in the 'partner' repo in ubuntu
#1649 [14:25] <zampa> Hmm...
#1650 [14:26] <mbentley> do a 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
#1651 [14:26] <zampa> should be there tbh...
#1652 [14:26] <Burnskagen> Did that pastebin I gave you give you any clue of what I have done wrong? :)
#1653 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> hold a sec
#1654 [14:26] <mbentley> hit f3 and type in 'partner' then enter (that will search for the word partner)
#1655 [14:26] <LordEddi> Hm.
#1656 [14:26] <mbentley> it should find the partner repository listings
#1657 [14:26] <LordEddi> I didnt use the jre package..
#1658 [14:26] <LordEddi> Try the sun-java6-jdk instead?
#1659 [14:26] <mbentley> if it can't find the jre, jdk won't be there
#1660 [14:27] <mbentley> jre is a prereq for jdk
#1661 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: so when you typed 'screen -x' nothing happened? Try `screen -x mc-server`
#1662 [14:27] <LordEddi> mbentley: I believe you!
#1663 [14:27] <mbentley> once you find the partner repo entries, you need to uncomment them (aka - remove the # before the lines)
#1664 [14:27] <LordEddi> I just know that I didnt use it xD
#1665 [14:27] <zampa> Hmm, ill make sure i get it somehow. :>
#1666 [14:27] <Burnskagen> There are several suitable screens on:
#1667 [14:27] <Burnskagen> 8058.mc-server (Attached)
#1668 [14:27] <Burnskagen> 5832.mc-server (Attached)
#1669 [14:27] <Burnskagen> Type "screen [-d] -r [pid.]tty.host" to resume one of them.
#1670 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: okay, somehow we started two screens
#1671 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: `screen -x 5832`
#1672 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> what do you see there?
#1673 [14:28] <Burnskagen> Attaching from inside of screen?
#1674 [14:28] <Burnskagen> [burnskagen@mchost minecraft]$
#1675 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> `exit`
#1676 [14:29] <aetherian> lol
#1677 [14:29] <Burnskagen> ok
#1678 [14:29] <aetherian> my friend said he wanted to host a server on his compy
#1679 [14:29] <aetherian> he only has 512 mb I think
#1680 [14:29] <mbentley> sounds like a bad idea
#1681 [14:29] <aetherian> no kidding
#1682 [14:29] <zampa> im going to try on 300 ram lol. :> or well server has 500mb but 300 is free.
#1683 [14:29] <aetherian> o_O
#1684 [14:29] <LordEddi> Uhm, I wouldnt recommend that..
#1685 [14:30] <Burnskagen> What's next? :)
#1686 [14:30] <mbentley> that might idle ok...
#1687 [14:30] <aetherian> th-th-three hundred mb ram o_O
#1688 [14:30] <LordEddi> hehe
#1689 [14:30] <zampa> aetherian: its a virtual server. :>
#1690 [14:30] <aetherian> for minecraft, ah, lesee
#1691 [14:30] <aetherian> how many players could that hold...
#1692 [14:30] <aetherian> ah, yes
#1693 [14:30] <aetherian> the server. barely.
#1694 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: now `screen -x mc-server`
#1695 [14:30] <aetherian> maybe.
#1696 [14:30] <LordEddi> I forsee alot of "Can't keep up" messages xD
#1697 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> LordEddi: like that's anything new
#1698 [14:31] <Burnskagen> Attaching from inside of screen?
#1699 [14:31] <LordEddi> hehe
#1700 [14:31] <LordEddi> I get that, and I am running on a quad-core with 12 gigs of ram and minecraft on SSD drives.
#1701 [14:31] <Burnskagen> It gives Attaching from inside of screen?
#1702 [14:31] <mbentley> i haven't seen any can't keep up messages for a little while
#1703 [14:31] * mbentley knocks on wood
#1703 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: we attached to one, and it was not running the server, so we exited back out of it
#1704 [14:32] <Burnskagen> what should I type?
#1705 [14:32] <aetherian> lordeddi: then get hexacore
#1706 [14:32] <aetherian> or octacore
#1707 [14:33] <aetherian> ...or decacore
#1708 [14:33] <LordEddi> I am not going to be upgrading any of my computers due to minecraft..
#1709 [14:33] <LordEddi> :p
#1710 [14:33] <LordEddi> Screw. That.
#1711 [14:33] * Burnskagen pokes DopeGhoti :)
#1711 [14:33] <aetherian> :O
#1712 [14:33] <Burnskagen> what now?
#1713 [14:33] <aetherian> but...
#1714 [14:33] <aetherian> minecraft is the best reason to upgrad
#1715 [14:34] <LordEddi> hehe
#1716 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: what do you see?
#1717 [14:35] <Burnskagen> [burnskagen@mchost minecraft]$ screen -x mc-server
#1718 [14:35] <Burnskagen> Attaching from inside of screen?
#1719 [14:35] <Burnskagen> [burnskagen@mchost minecraft]$ Attaching from inside of screen?
#1720 [14:35] <Burnskagen> bash: Attaching: command not found
#1721 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> ...
#1722 [14:36] <Burnskagen> after a [screen is terminating]
#1723 [14:36] <Burnskagen> this was the return of the exit command
#1724 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> okay, `screen -ls` again
#1725 [14:36] <Burnskagen> There is a screen on:
#1726 [14:36] <Burnskagen> 8058.mc-server (Attached)
#1727 [14:36] <Burnskagen> 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-burnskagen.
#1728 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> okay, press Ctrl-A, then "
#1729 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> anything happen?
#1730 [14:37] <Burnskagen> nope :P
#1731 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> okay
#1732 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> screen -Dx mc-server
#1733 [14:38] <Burnskagen> Now suddenly I can't write anything
#1734 [14:38] <Burnskagen> ok now i can
#1735 [14:39] <Burnskagen> I did it
#1736 [14:40] <zgamer> uhm guys
#1737 [14:40] <zgamer> whwhat does 503 mean?
#1738 [14:40] <Burnskagen> Overloaded server
#1739 [14:40] <Burnskagen> I think
#1740 [14:41] <zgamer> :(
#1741 [14:41] <zgamer> returned HTTP response code: 503 for URL: http://www.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.php?user=xxxx&sessionId=xxx
#1742 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: whatcha see now?
#1743 [14:43] <Burnskagen> It took me one line down
#1744 [14:43] <Burnskagen> And now it has froze again. (my computer is really weird today)
#1745 [14:44] <Burnskagen> Now I can type
#1746 [14:44] <Burnskagen> it said [detached]
#1747 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> zgamer: Looks liek there was a momentary outage; reportedly OK now.
#1748 [14:48] <Burnskagen> what now?
#1749 [14:48] <Burnskagen> :P
#1750 [14:48] <TheReddeH> boogie
#1751 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> Burnskagen: okay, once more, with feeling: `screen -Dx mc-server`
#1752 [14:49] <Auxilium> Minecraft authorisation server died? )
#1753 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> Auxilium: only momentarily; it's reportedly already back online
#1754 [14:50] <Auxilium> it's saying Error all the time
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#1756 [14:50] <Auxilium> aha, passed after few more tries
#1757 [14:52] <Burnskagen> DopeGhotie, pm for you
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#1759 [14:55] <Burnskagen> DopeGhotie, tell me when you get in
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#1764 [15:08] <zampa> how long is stuff there after you die?
#1765 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> zampa: ~3 minutes IIRC
#1766 [15:09] * xales pokes DopeGhoti, vhost >:D
#1766 [15:09] <zampa> damn
#1767 [15:09] <zampa> since im like
#1768 [15:09] <zampa> 123123 miles away rom where i died.
#1769 [15:09] <zampa> i can kiss all that goodbye... .>
#1770 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> I doubt you were quite that far.
#1771 [15:10] <zampa> ok not that far.
#1772 [15:10] <zampa> but not 3 minutes away
#1773 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> xales: come again?
#1774 [15:10] <Wesmagyar> they need to make a way to change your spawn point in game
#1775 [15:11] <Wesmagyar> cuz whats the point of having such a vast world if every time you die you get thrown back to the same exact spot...
#1776 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> Wesmagyar: if that was done, then the complaints would be "Oh, man; I died and now I can't get any of my stuff! And where's my castle?!"
#1777 [15:12] <Wesmagyar> or they could have multiple spawn points that you can switch between
#1778 [15:12] <Wesmagyar> that would solve both issues.. have like 5 slots that you can fill up as you see fit
#1779 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> Wesmagyar: that'd make for an interesting mod
#1780 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> once the API comes out, I might do that
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#1782 [15:13] <xales> DopeGhoti: I got IPv6 working, so I'm going to start abusing my 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 vhosts
#1783 [15:13] <xales> :P
#1784 [15:14] <Wesmagyar> yeah i started hosting my own server using the Mineos thing but i couldnt figure out how to use the Bukkit thing so im running a vanilla server
#1785 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> So am I
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#1787 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> I prefer not to use mods that aren't officially sanctioned
#1788 [15:14] <Wesmagyar> are there any officially sanctioned mods?
#1789 [15:14] <xales> Nope
#1790 [15:15] <Wesmagyar> didnt think so
#1791 [15:15] <Wesmagyar> the mineos thing is pretty cool though
#1792 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> There's the 'Wait for the Mod API' mod
#1793 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> I have that one installed already
#1794 [15:16] <Wesmagyar> tried hosting a server on my machine but it would max out cpu and lag like @$%@$% so i tried the mineos thing in a Virtualbox VM and now it works like a charm
#1795 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> xales: that might take some time to slog though. I should play with IPv6 at some point too probably
#1796 [15:16] <xales> A fine example of why Windows sucks for servers, lol
#1797 [15:17] <xales> DopeGhoti: It was fairly easy, after researching it a bit I ran 5 or 6 commands and was done (after setting up a tunnel. COME ON NATIVE IPv6 LINODE D:)
#1798 [15:17] <TheReddeH> thats not windows fault, thats crappy mc programming ;p
#1799 [15:17] <Wesmagyar> honestly if i could play all my games in linux reliably and use TS3 reliably i would switch over today
#1800 [15:17] <xales> TheReddeH: No, Windows does just suck for servers. lol
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#1802 [15:18] <TheReddeH> yeah wel.... its the best for cool wallpapers :\
#1803 [15:18] <Wesmagyar> i use Ubuntu on my netbook, tried running linux as my main OS for a few months but every time Eve Online would patch i couldnt play it for a few days and features like in game voice never worked
#1804 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> TheReddeH: really? If the Windoes port of a server runs worse natively than does running a virtual Linux machine running the Linux port, that really doesn't speak well for the Windows version of the server.
#1805 [15:18] <Wesmagyar> couldnt get TeamSpeak to run either
#1806 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> Wesmagyar: whaa? There's a native TeamSpeak Linux server/client
#1807 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> it works perfectly
#1808 [15:19] <Wesmagyar> didnt work for me
#1809 [15:19] <Wesmagyar> couldnt get the audio to work right
#1810 [15:19] <xales> TheReddeH: All Windows wallpapers work fine, if not better, on Linux
#1811 [15:19] <xales> you can do transparency and shit on Linux
#1812 [15:19] <xales> DopeGhoti: All I do to add a new address to listen on is ip -6 addr add address dev he-ipv6 :D
#1813 [15:19] <Wesmagyar> Compiz FTW
#1814 [15:19] <xales> Compiz FTL, resource hog
#1815 [15:20] <Wesmagyar> but it does some sexy shit and i have resources to spare
#1816 [15:20] <TheReddeH> u guys are such geeks, getting worked up over a windows vs linux thing ;p
#1817 [15:20] <TheReddeH> who cares ;p
#1818 [15:20] <SkiingPenguins> i use ubuntu on a flash drive just incase i bork windows ^.^
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#1820 [15:20] <xales> Anyway, I'm going home now. I'll be back in an hour and a half
#1821 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> ciao, xales
#1822 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> TheReddeH: Not getting worked up; just discussing
#1823 [15:21] <Wesmagyar> ah i love a good windows Vs Linux flame thread
#1824 [15:21] <TheReddeH> ;p
#1825 [15:21] <Wesmagyar> i can argue both sides :D
#1826 [15:21] <Auxilium> damn, minecraft crashes at mac os more often than at windows
#1827 [15:21] <Kealper> rawr
#1828 [15:21] <Auxilium> can i send crash reports somewgere?
#1829 [15:21] <TheReddeH> yeah mc sucks
#1830 [15:21] <TheReddeH> :)
#1831 [15:21] <Wesmagyar> thats cuz macs suck
#1832 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> Now, Wes.
#1833 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> Macs pre-OSX were pretty terrible
#1834 [15:22] <feenyx> I can argue all three sides if need be, but the point that nobody seems to get is that what is awesome to some people might not work for another.
#1835 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> but once they went POSIX they're pretty nice
#1836 [15:22] <feenyx> Features don't mean shit if the end user doesn't understand them or doesn't use them
#1837 [15:22] <TheReddeH> i just use windows because everything runs fine on it ;p
#1838 [15:22] <feenyx> all operating systems serve a purpose
#1839 [15:22] <Kealper> OS 9 - worse than windows for user experience, 10x more viruses
#1840 [15:22] <Wesmagyar> meh steve jobs is the devil
#1841 [15:23] <fogwraith> There is nothing wrong with OS 9 ;P
#1842 [15:23] <feenyx> they may be inferior to other systems in some ways, but they probably do what the end-user needs it to do, better than the alternatives
#1843 [15:23] <Jardyn> !check 68.112.63.226
#1844 [15:23] <Auxilium> i only asked where to send reports :P
#1845 [15:23] * Kealper nerdrages at OS 9
#1845 [15:23] <Wesmagyar> lol and he is taking the middle ground argument
#1846 [15:23] <Wesmagyar> fail
#1847 [15:23] <Kealper> oh OS 9, how i hate thee
#1848 [15:24] <Wesmagyar> heya kealper
#1849 [15:24] <fogwraith> Whats wrong with it, Kealper? :P
#1850 [15:24] <Wesmagyar> the mineos thing worked out great
#1851 [15:24] <Kealper> i had some bad experiences with it when i was but a lad
#1852 [15:24] <Kealper> and hi Wesmagyar
#1853 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> Auxilium: getsatisfaction.com/mojang <- post your crash logs here
#1854 [15:24] * SkiingPenguins never heard of "OS 9"
#1854 [15:24] <SkiingPenguins> google is enlightening
#1855 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> The first time I used a Mac, it was OS 3, back when it was called System 3
#1856 [15:25] <Kealper> oh gosh.....lol
#1857 [15:25] <fogwraith> System 7.6.1 <3
#1858 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> ProDOS/16 <3
#1859 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> or rather, GS/OS :D
#1860 [15:25] <Kealper> windows 98se <#?
#1861 [15:25] <Kealper> <3*
#1862 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: compared to Me? Sure.
#1863 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> What a clusterfork that was
#1864 [15:26] <Auxilium> Thanks DopeGhoti!
#1865 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> Auxilium: cheers
#1866 [15:26] <Kealper> idk, Me was not TERRIBLE....it just was not great...like..at all..lol
#1867 [15:26] <Kealper> it was "forgettable"
#1868 [15:27] <fogwraith> Kealper: http://exodus.physics.ucla.edu/appleseed/appleseed.html
#1869 [15:27] <Kealper> it was like windows 98....but with a new name lol
#1870 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I remember when it came out, and the folks on TechTV were going to do two live installs.. on like TV. One ended up in BSOD Hell, and the other ended up needing to get the hard drive re-repartitioned. Twice.
#1871 [15:27] <Kealper> xD
#1872 [15:27] <Wesmagyar> i refer to ME as Miserable Edition
#1873 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Kind of like how Win7 is actually Win6.1?
#1874 [15:28] <Wesmagyar> i worked as a microsoft Tech support guy then it was beyond Horrible
#1875 [15:28] <SkiingPenguins> my first OS i used was windows ME
#1876 [15:28] * Kealper points out that XP is actually 5.1, just an upgrade from 2000
#1876 [15:28] <mbentley> i don't speak of windows me
#1877 [15:28] <mbentley> IT BURNS!
#1878 [15:28] <Wesmagyar> wow my first OS was Commodoore C64
#1879 [15:28] <Kealper> my first one i used was windows 95...although i don't remember it much, as i was young lol
#1880 [15:29] <Wesmagyar> load"*",8,1 bitches
#1881 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> DOS 3.2 FTW. Not MS-DOS. Apple // DOS.
#1882 [15:29] <mbentley> i was too young to really remember c64 syntax
#1883 [15:29] <Kealper> "With this program we've achieved 6 GFlop/sec on a cluster of four G4s!" woohoo!
#1884 [15:30] <mbentley> but i do remember playing games on our apple iie
#1885 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> I can't stand using C64s now despite the huge nostalgia. I refuse to type @ when I mean ".
#1886 [15:30] <Wesmagyar> hehe
#1887 [15:30] <Wesmagyar> i loved my old C64 and i still used it up till about 2001 when i just decided it wanted to give up the magical black smoke
#1888 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> d'oh
#1889 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> once the magic smoke comes out, there's no helpf or ya
#1890 [15:31] <Kealper> one time i found my parents' old TRS-80.....i was diappoint when it didn't turn on though :(
#1891 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Ah, the Trash Eighty. Memories of Rogue :)
#1892 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> I do with I'd kept at learning 6502 assembly on the apple // though
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#1894 [15:33] <Kealper> man, they still had the original spec sheet on the thing...i could swear it said it had a 0.895mhz cpu....or something insanely slow like that
#1895 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> The Apple // line and the C64 all had 1 MHz.
#1896 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> The Apple //GS could get up to 2.8MHz.
#1897 [15:34] <Kealper> oh gosh, so that sheet probably was not lieing lol
#1898 [15:34] <feenyx> the SNES did about 2.8MHz too
#1899 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> Yep.
#1900 [15:34] <feenyx> iirc
#1901 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> The //GS also had a "Transwarp" card that would let it run PC software at 12 MHz, which was four times faster than PCs were at the time.
#1902 [15:35] <feenyx> nah, the SNES did 3.58MHz
#1903 [15:35] * DopeGhoti still remembers the ads: "Now Apple speaks IBM. Four times faster than IBM."
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#1904 [15:35] <Kealper> hmm...the wiki page on the trs-80 says it ran at 1.78mhz, but i could swear that sheet said .895mhz...
#1905 [15:35] <feenyx> Genesis did 7.6 D:
#1906 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> Remember the 'turbo' switches that PCs used to have :)
#1907 [15:36] <feenyx> or MegaDrive, depending on where you're from
#1908 [15:36] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: oh god, the turbo switch
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#1910 [15:36] <Kealper> did those actually do anything? i always kept it flipped on with my first computer
#1911 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> So many wasted hours at $PCSHOP fiddling with jumpers to make the speed 7seg displays actually match the speed(s) of the CPUs ind the systems
#1912 [15:37] <feenyx> Kealper: I think most manufacturers clocked it down when the Turbo button wasn't pressed :p
#1913 [15:37] <Kealper> oh, weak
#1914 [15:37] <feenyx> easy money
#1915 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> Back in the day, software couldn't handle running too fast, so the 'turbo' switch would turn off the CPU's clock multiplier
#1916 [15:37] <feenyx> there would still be a discernible difference
#1917 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> so that older games and such would be playable
#1918 [15:37] <feenyx> also that
#1919 [15:37] <Kealper> .o
#1920 [15:37] <Kealper> o.o*
#1921 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> However it got to the point that even nonmultiplied, it was "too fast", so it fell into disuse, but for a long time, cases still had the button, wired to nothing
#1922 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> On such cases, I'd wire the 7Seg displays to say "Hi" or "Lo", but otherwise have no effect.
#1923 [15:38] <feenyx> I'm gonna make a turbo button on my next case
#1924 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> customers would insist that it made a difference, even though it wasn't connected to the motherboard at all :)
#1925 [15:39] <feenyx> or maybe on one of my servers
#1926 [15:39] <Kealper> so...how could something be too fast? was the games' movement speeds locked to the frame rates?
#1927 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> feenyx: Psh. More fun to wire on a "Magic / More Magic" switch :)
#1928 [15:39] <feenyx> Kealper: early games would move as fast as clock speed would let you :p
#1929 [15:39] <Kealper> feenyx: yeah, that's what i meant lol
#1930 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: back then, games didn't ahve frame limiters
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#1932 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> the most common example is X-Com, which run outside of DosBox is unplayably fast.
#1933 [15:40] <feenyx> I recall playing F15 Strike Eagle on a 486 DX2
#1934 [15:40] <feenyx> shit was wicked fast
#1935 [15:40] <Kealper> lol
#1936 [15:40] <feenyx> waaay faster than my comp at the time
#1937 [15:40] <mbentley> i loved that game feenyx
#1938 [15:40] <mbentley> i always remember it looking better than it did
#1939 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> Heh, I had that for my //c
#1940 [15:40] <feenyx> both of them :D
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#1942 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> My PC flight sim of choice was F-19 or F-117
#1943 [15:40] <feenyx> so much fun though
#1944 [15:40] <Kealper> mbentley: that reminds me of a game called Legacy of Time 3
#1945 [15:40] <mbentley> i played f-19 as well
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#1947 [15:41] * DopeGhoti missses Microprose
#1947 [15:41] <Kealper> i remember it having the world's most badass graphics as a kid....
#1948 [15:41] <Kealper> i played it recently
#1949 [15:41] <mbentley> i remember having just a pc speaker and that game screeching like crazy lol
#1950 [15:41] <Kealper> highly compressed 256 color jpegs :/
#1951 [15:41] <lemon-rev> anyone heard of the cpc 464 ?
#1952 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: sounds awfully palindomic
#1953 [15:42] <Kealper> and i think i got that name wrong wit hthe game, it might have been just Legacy of Time...i know there was a 3 somewhere
#1954 [15:42] <lemon-rev> hm
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#1956 [15:42] <lemon-rev> why you say that,
#1957 [15:42] * Kealper googles or it'll bug him for the rest of the day
#1957 [15:42] <lemon-rev> good old machine, depends on the screen you had though
#1958 [15:42] <lemon-rev> lol
#1959 [15:43] <lemon-rev> kealper amstrad
#1960 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> If I had infinite time, I would acquire an old //c and force it onto the internet somehow
#1961 [15:43] <Kealper> aha! full name was The Journyman Project 3: Legacy of Time </random>
#1962 [15:43] <Kealper> lol dope
#1963 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> that rings a familiar gong
#1964 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> Trivia: did you know that a lot of John Romero's games were for the Apple //, and are effectively open-source?
#1965 [15:44] <Kealper> O.o
#1966 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> s/games/early games/
#1967 [15:44] <lemon-rev> i know you can get the emulator for the old apple but the games are rom form and rare as hell
#1968 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> um
#1969 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> if by ROM form, you mean disk image
#1970 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> and if by rare, you mean ridiculously easy to find, then yes.
#1971 [15:46] <lemon-rev> well yes
#1972 [15:46] <mbentley> <3 http://www.virtualapple.org/
#1973 [15:46] <mbentley> haha
#1974 [15:46] <lemon-rev> hm
#1975 [15:46] <lemon-rev> oh,
#1976 [15:46] <lemon-rev> dammit
#1977 [15:46] <lemon-rev> :)
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#1979 [15:49] <Kealper> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporal_Security_Agency
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#1981 [15:49] <Kealper> the one true TSA :O
#1982 [15:49] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Isn't the article at Memory Alpha more comprehensive?
#1983 [15:50] <Kealper> eh? can't say i've seen it
#1984 [15:50] <csd> Hi can someone tell me how much time does it takes for the billing support to respond ?
#1985 [15:50] <Kealper> that entire article is just about the fictional agency in The Journeyman Project lol
#1986 [15:50] <Kealper> csd: what email did you email?
#1987 [15:51] <csd> kavkazcenter.com
#1988 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> csd: Orders should be getting caught up today; of not email payments@mojang.com with your payment confirmation informaiton
#1989 [15:51] <csd> arg
#1990 [15:51] <csd> bad copy paste
#1991 [15:51] <Kealper> lol
#1992 [15:51] <csd> payment@mojang.com
#1993 [15:52] <Kealper> yeah.....uhh.....that probably won't get a response any time soon
#1994 [15:52] <Kealper> what did you want to ask them about? we might be able to answer it here
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#1996 [15:54] <csd> well i bought a gift code for a friend through paypal but i've never receive it, not even a confirmation email or something like that
#1997 [15:54] <lemon-rev> csd log into paypal and check your payment, it could be still waiting process
#1998 [15:55] <Kealper> did paypal say the payment went through? because there have been problems with the emails not going through lately
#1999 [15:55] <Kealper> also, check your account page to see if you have the gift code on there
#2000 [15:56] <csd> yeap the payment is cone
#2001 [15:56] <csd> done*
#2002 [15:56] <Kealper> because the payment might have went through without a hitch, but the email might not have been sent corectly
#2003 [15:56] <csd> i just check it out
#2004 [15:57] <csd> yeah I understand that but I can't really do something about that
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#2006 [15:58] <csd> I guess i just should wait for them to answer ?
#2007 [15:58] <Kealper> well....how long ago did you send the email?
#2008 [15:59] <csd> 2 days ago
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#2010 [15:59] <Kealper> you're probably better off emailing daniel@mojang.com as he actually answers email lol
#2011 [16:00] <csd> lol
#2012 [16:00] <Kealper> you might not get a response right away though, since it's like 10pm where they are right now
#2013 [16:01] <csd> :(
#2014 [16:01] <csd> =)
#2015 [16:01] <csd> well
#2016 [16:01] <Kealper> but you have checked your account on minecraft.net and there is no gift codes on it?
#2017 [16:01] <csd> maybe i could cancel the transaction and directly active the account of my friend without any gift code
#2018 [16:02] <Diablothein> sweet, my 50 dollar gamestop giftcard came in the mail today.
#2019 [16:02] <Diablothein> Total price paid for it: $0
#2020 [16:02] <Kealper> pirate
#2021 [16:02] <Diablothein> Arr
#2022 [16:02] <csd> but gift are sent by email aren't they ?
#2023 [16:03] <csd> ( was not talking about you card diablothein )
#2024 [16:03] <Diablothein> I know
#2025 [16:03] <Kealper> csd: i actually am not totally sure how those work, i've never bought one...but i thought that it would give you a copy of the gift code on your profile thing on minecraft.net
#2026 [16:03] * Diablothein has been in here the whole time
#2026 [16:04] <Kealper> can anyone else get on minecraft.net right now?
#2027 [16:04] <csd> i'll check my profile as soon as the website is up =)
#2028 [16:05] <lemon-rev> i can access minecraft.net kealper
#2029 [16:05] <csd> i can't
#2030 [16:05] <Kealper> lemon-rev: press ctrl+F5
#2031 [16:05] <csd> 500 Servlet Exception
#2032 [16:05] <lemon-rev> ?
#2033 [16:05] <Kealper> force refresh the page, without displaying cached content
#2034 [16:05] <lemon-rev> nope it refreshed
#2035 [16:06] <Kealper> lucky >.>
#2036 [16:06] <lemon-rev> you sure lol
#2037 [16:06] <lemon-rev> :)
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#2040 [16:17] <GeliGeli> is the registration server down?
#2041 [16:17] <GeliGeli> when i log in it just says "Error"
#2042 [16:18] <NinjaKirby> When I log in, it says a message so not of this Earth that I must have ascended to a higher plane of existance
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#2045 [16:19] <GeliGeli> lol @NinjaKirby
#2046 [16:20] <NinjaKirby> More seriously, I just tried logging in and I get the same result.
#2047 [16:20] <Kealper> lol
#2048 [16:20] <NinjaKirby> So now I'm gonna have to toy with server.properties again, _great_
#2049 [16:20] <Kealper> i just tried like 10 min ago and it would let me log in O.o
#2050 [16:20] <Kealper> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty <-- cooking right now
#2051 [16:20] <GeliGeli> what does server.properties do?
#2052 [16:20] <Kealper> properties for the server :P
#2053 [16:21] <GeliGeli> but what kind of properties?
#2054 [16:21] <SkiingPenguins> read it backwards like apple pie -> pie w/apple
#2055 [16:21] <NinjaKirby> Disable Login verification
#2056 [16:21] <GeliGeli> ah it works again!
#2057 [16:21] <NinjaKirby> Getting in there! Yes! Good call Geli, thanks :P
#2058 [16:22] <GeliGeli> u can disable loginverification ?
#2059 [16:22] <GeliGeli> so you never have to log in again?
#2060 [16:22] <NinjaKirby> I don't think you can actively skip the login screen?
#2061 [16:22] <feenyx> no
#2062 [16:23] <feenyx> you cannot
#2063 [16:23] <feenyx> but you can make your server not verify accounts online
#2064 [16:23] <NinjaKirby> Wait a minute, if people who haven't paid use the Offline mode, then they can presumably play Offline Beta?
#2065 [16:23] <GeliGeli> hrhr
#2066 [16:23] <GeliGeli> what about multiplayer beta in lan?
#2067 [16:23] <xolotl> NinjaKirby: You've got to do some trickery to get it to run the first time
#2068 [16:24] <NinjaKirby> Ah, so there's some minor failsafes or something, good to hear I guess
#2069 [16:24] <xolotl> NinjaKirby: If you want to play beta without having a real account.
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#2071 [16:24] <NinjaKirby> xolotl: Wakata ^^
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#2073 [16:25] <xolotl> NinjaKirby: wakata?
#2074 [16:25] <NinjaKirby> xolotl: I'm stupid, I mean I understand
#2075 [16:25] <xolotl> Ah, k. :)
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#2077 [16:28] <xales> Kealper!
#2078 [16:28] <xales> you around?
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#2080 [16:30] <Kealper> rawr?
#2081 [16:30] <xales> hi
#2082 [16:30] <xales> I was bored, so I got IPv6 to work
#2083 [16:30] <Kealper> ipv6 what? irc connection? lol
#2084 [16:30] <xales> AKA; awesome vhost time
#2085 [16:31] <xales> IPv6 in general
#2086 [16:31] <Kealper> oh
#2087 [16:31] <Kealper> i can't get ipv6 stuff :/
#2088 [16:31] <xales> what about it?
#2089 [16:31] <Kealper> isp in my area doesn't support it
#2090 [16:31] <xales> (its harder on a home/NATed connection)
#2091 [16:31] <xales> Tunneling
#2092 [16:31] <xales> my VPS provider doesn't have support for it yet either
#2093 [16:31] <Kealper> yeah, i can do it with a tunnel, but i can't get it native
#2094 [16:32] <xales> this is a bit slower than it was before, but its not bad
#2095 [16:32] <clone1018> xales I forgot how annoying you are
#2096 [16:32] <clone1018> But I remember now
#2097 [16:32] <xales> ...
#2098 [16:32] <xales> I'm not even talking to you
#2099 [16:32] <xales> also
#2100 [16:32] * xales kicked clone1018 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Don't be rude to me for no reason)
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#2102 [16:33] <clone1018> Why did you kick me?
#2103 [16:33] <clone1018> I broke none of the rules
#2104 [16:33] <xales> I wasn't aware you needed to break one to be kicked
#2105 [16:33] <clone1018> Yup
#2106 [16:33] <Kealper> i was literally just typing /me looks at xales' @ and then back at what clone said
#2107 [16:33] <xales> Though, you were.
#2108 [16:33] <clone1018> Which one?
#2109 [16:33] <xales> Also, its more or less our channel anyway
#2110 [16:33] <clone1018> AH!
#2111 [16:33] <clone1018> Cool
#2112 [16:33] <clone1018> You own the channel now
#2113 [16:33] <clone1018> You've gotten pretty far in 3 months
#2114 [16:34] <NinjaKirby> Privilage to be here, not a Right, etc.
#2115 [16:34] <xales> Rule two and seven
#2116 [16:34] <xales> further debate is a ban. have fun!
#2117 [16:34] <Kealper> alright children, settle down
#2118 [16:34] <clone1018> Sucking op's cocks is your specialty isn't it, xales?
#2119 [16:34] * xales kicked clone1018 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Bye!)
#2120 [16:34] <Kealper> damnit
#2121 [16:34] <Kealper> ninja'd
#2122 [16:35] <Kealper> not quite sure if he realized that you ARE an op....lol
#2123 [16:36] <xales> he isn't terribly intelligent, ive found
#2124 [16:36] <xales> (running a hosting company in high school...good luck)
#2125 [16:36] <Kealper> lol
#2126 [16:36] <LordEddi> Must be really good with customers, from the looks of things.
#2127 [16:36] <Kealper> totally
#2128 [16:37] <xales> Nobody here pays us, we have no customers :)
#2129 [16:37] <Kealper> he FLIPPED out on me when i mentioned his website in here
#2130 [16:37] <LordEddi> Nono, not you xales. That guy.
#2131 [16:37] <xales> oh, lol. I get it
#2132 [16:37] <LordEddi> :)
#2133 [16:37] * xales is used to people complaining about us kicking spammers and that we were preventing them from getting official support from Mojang
#2133 [16:37] <Kealper> gotta love #minecraft lol
#2134 [16:38] <xales> what about it? i'm not even looking
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#2136 [16:38] <LordEddi> Heck, you give them more leaway than I would have, so xD
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#2138 [16:45] <LordEddi> zampa: I got six players on my server now by the way, and its basicly eating 500 MB of RAM.
#2139 [16:45] <LordEddi> Just thought you should know xD
#2140 [16:46] <ftw> I gave java 1GB to play with, LordEddi, and the server seems to use it all
#2141 [16:46] <LordEddi> hehe
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#2143 [16:46] <LordEddi> The memory use on the server itself is not more than 200ish mb
#2144 [16:47] <ftw> let me look
#2145 [16:47] <LordEddi> Thats according to the GUI.
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#2147 [16:47] <maddde> hey, is here somone who knows about the "socket write error" problem ?
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#2149 [16:48] <ftw> Mine's using 942MB of 1.5GB (I was wrong: i gave it 1.5GB to play with)
#2150 [16:48] <ftw> according to htop
#2151 [16:48] <LordEddi> Ah.
#2152 [16:48] <LordEddi> Mine is running on Windows right now, my linux machine couldnt handle more than two users xD
#2153 [16:48] <LordEddi> Stupid Atom processor, and like no ram. >.>
#2154 [16:48] <ftw> I have zero users on my server right now
#2155 [16:48] <LordEddi> what the..
#2156 [16:49] <LordEddi> and it uses 940MB?
#2157 [16:49] <LordEddi> SMP?
#2158 [16:49] <ftw> I had never looked before. Is that abnormal?
#2159 [16:49] <ftw> yes, latest SMP
#2160 [16:50] <ftw> I'm not complaining--it works fine, and memory unused is memory wasted
#2161 [16:50] <LordEddi> Yeah, by all means.
#2162 [16:50] <LordEddi> Just curious why its using that much more, compared to mine.
#2163 [16:51] <ftw> I leave it running for days/weeks on end
#2164 [16:51] <ftw> maybe memory leak?
#2165 [16:51] <LordEddi> that could be it.
#2166 [16:51] <LordEddi> I restart mine ever morning, when these addicts arent on :p
#2167 [16:51] <LordEddi> Well, close to every morning.
#2168 [16:51] <ftw> I loved minecraft so much I bought another computer just to run a server for me and my buddies
#2169 [16:51] <LordEddi> hehe
#2170 [16:51] <LordEddi> I am currently breaking up our wow guild.
#2171 [16:52] <LordEddi> Bought the game for a few buddies, and now its spreading..
#2172 [16:52] <ftw> "Look guys, another addiction!"
#2173 [16:52] <LordEddi> xD
#2174 [16:52] <feenyx> an innocent one, at that :p
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#2176 [16:52] <LordEddi> true, true.
#2177 [16:52] <ftw> SMP has come a long way recently
#2178 [16:53] <ftw> I remember, not too long ago, when mobs didn't work, when minecarts didn't work
#2179 [16:53] <ftw> So SMP was just basically a building game
#2180 [16:53] <ftw> Now, finally, the mobs work more-or-less properly, and you can get snuck up on by creepers with your friends
#2181 [16:53] <LordEddi> yeah..
#2182 [16:53] <feenyx> I made waterways instead of cart tracks
#2183 [16:54] <LordEddi> The buggers keeps blowing up my damn house.
#2184 [16:54] <feenyx> travelling by boat was still heaps faster than walking
#2185 [16:54] <ftw> Remember before the compass, when getting lost was a very real possibility
#2186 [16:55] <LordEddi> Heck, we just started playing last week.
#2187 [16:55] <aetherian> why oh why does the minecraft server have to cost so much to get a decent server/etc for it ;_;
#2188 [16:55] <feenyx> it doesn't really
#2189 [16:55] <ftw> I just bought a cheap motherboard and built my own server, aetherian
#2190 [16:55] <LordEddi> Free for me :p
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#2192 [16:55] <Intel_iX> Does the minecraft server run multi-core?
#2193 [16:55] <feenyx> you just need an dedicated box, an old P4 will do, aslong as you have 2GB or more of ram
#2194 [16:55] <ftw> No, it doesn't seem to , Intel_iX
#2195 [16:56] <aetherian> yes, but some of us have to rent a server in order to have good internets
#2196 [16:56] <Intel_iX> ._.
#2197 [16:56] <aetherian> >.>
#2198 [16:56] <ftw> I have 2MBps up with my network connection
#2199 [16:56] <ftw> can handle about 4 players max
#2200 [16:56] <feenyx> aetherian: then it's not really a question of the hardware :p
#2201 [16:56] <Intel_iX> Minecraft doesn't seem to handle bandwidth very well.
#2202 [16:56] <Intel_iX> at all
#2203 [16:56] <aetherian> feenyx: when did I ever say it was?
#2204 [16:56] <feenyx> Intel_iX: that's going to get tweaked at somep oint during beta
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#2206 [16:57] <SkiingPenguins> minecraft is definately one of the most bandwidth heavy things ive ever tried to host
#2207 [16:57] <feenyx> aetherian: you didn't specify bandwidth as a problem, I assumed you meant hardware wise
#2208 [16:57] <ftw> I just want the "invisible chunk" glitch to go away
#2209 [16:57] <ftw> If that goes away, it's perfect as it is, for me.
#2210 [16:57] <Intel_iX> invisible chunk + bandwidth
#2211 [16:58] <ftw> Well, multiplayer is a hard problem.
#2212 [16:58] <ftw> but agreed, improving bandwidth usage will be great too
#2213 [16:58] <mecael> Working zombies would be nice too
#2214 [16:58] <aetherian> feenyx: eh, the average joe wouldn't build their own server
#2215 [16:59] <ftw> We're geeks on IRC--we're not the average joe
#2216 [16:59] <Intel_iX> Can someone tell me why it uses so much bandwidth? Does it transfer the entire chunk when it's updated?
#2217 [16:59] <ftw> I do not know.
#2218 [16:59] <aetherian> well neither am I, but I don't have any funds at all, and less than ideal knowledge of computers
#2219 [17:00] <aetherian> besides
#2220 [17:00] <aetherian> the average joe can be on IRC
#2221 [17:00] <aetherian> see: mibbit
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#2223 [17:01] <ftw> True. Myself, I'm sshed into my home computer connected via screen to my pre-existing IRSSI session.
#2224 [17:01] <ftw> Sniff this, work bastards!
#2225 [17:01] <ftw> "gee, ftw sure has a lot of encrypted traffic these days."
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#2227 [17:02] <ftw> ttfn, going home
#2228 [17:02] <aetherian> haha
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#2230 [17:03] <Kealper> ok
#2231 [17:04] <tpw_lappy> hello. i set up a minecraft server just to play with and it kicks me when i try to connect to it and then crashes the client
#2232 [17:04] <Kealper> tpw_lappy: what is your server's address? i'll try connecting to it
#2233 [17:04] <tpw_lappy> it's not available outside my computer
#2234 [17:04] <aetherian> o_O
#2235 [17:04] <tpw_lappy> actually, gimme a sec
#2236 [17:04] <aetherian> wha...
#2237 [17:04] <Kealper> oh, well then....check your server folder, is there a file called externalurl.txt?
#2238 [17:05] <aetherian> you're localhosting by yourself?
#2239 [17:05] <tpw_lappy> yep
#2240 [17:05] <aetherian> what's the point then?
#2241 [17:05] <tpw_lappy> aetherian: yes, just want to fiddle around
#2242 [17:05] <Kealper> tpw_lappy: and you wanted to play the beta client?
#2243 [17:05] <tpw_lappy> Kealper: yes
#2244 [17:05] <Kealper> you downloaded the classic server, not the beta server
#2245 [17:05] <tpw_lappy> oh
#2246 [17:05] <tpw_lappy> where do i get beta server?
#2247 [17:05] <Kealper> !server
#2248 [17:05] <tpw_lappy> i got it from minecraft.net/server.jsp
#2249 [17:06] <aetherian> heh
#2250 [17:06] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper why is there two different places for getting the server? is what he has for classic?
#2251 [17:06] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: because the download for the beta server is onthe beta client download page, the download for the classic server is on the classic server download page
#2252 [17:07] <Kealper> tons of people get that confused
#2253 [17:07] <tpw_lappy> it's warning that i don't have enough ram...
#2254 [17:07] <SkiingPenguins> oh okay
#2255 [17:07] <Kealper> tpw_lappy: how much ram does your computer have? lol
#2256 [17:07] <tpw_lappy> 2GB
#2257 [17:07] <Kealper> meh....probably safe to ignore it
#2258 [17:07] <tpw_lappy> (i just double clicked on the minecraft_server.jar from ubuntu)
#2259 [17:07] <tpw_lappy> it uses horrendous amounts of memory though
#2260 [17:08] <Kealper> OH
#2261 [17:08] <Kealper> ubuntu
#2262 [17:08] <Kealper> yeah....still safe to ignore it....especially if it was just to try it out
#2263 [17:08] <Kealper> that will only be an issue if you had a few people on it running all over the place and stuff lol
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#2265 [17:09] <avirst3> Hello irc
#2266 [17:09] <tpw_lappy> also, in case i want to make this public, what does it mean by knowing about server administration?
#2267 [17:10] <Kealper> uhh.....just that you actually have a slight grasp on what it means to host a public server
#2268 [17:10] <Kealper> and hi avirst3
#2269 [17:10] <tpw_lappy> k, that's what i yhought
#2270 [17:11] <Kealper> it's just to scare off the people that come in here asking stuff like "hey why can't i have 40 people on my DSL internet and my 512mb of ram computer?"
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#2272 [17:12] <aetherian> hey uh erm ah
#2273 [17:13] <aetherian> well
#2274 [17:13] <Kealper> .join #mcchatter
#2275 [17:13] <aetherian> how many players (with good internets) could play on a server with one gigabyte of RAM dedicated to the server
#2276 [17:13] <aetherian> like, the server having good inet
#2277 [17:14] <aetherian> and like, 1gig to the server program
#2278 [17:14] <Kealper> idk, could be quite a lot if the people did not spread out too much
#2279 [17:15] <tpw_lappy> ok, how do i turn off mobs?
#2280 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> tpw_lappy: the lines to change in server.properties should be self-evident.
#2281 [17:16] <Kealper> stop the server and open server.properties up in a text editor
#2282 [17:16] <aetherian> like 10+?
#2283 [17:17] <Kealper> aetherian: could be even more if they did not spread out in all directions
#2284 [17:17] <avirst3> so, can i ask about how to set up a whitelist here?
#2285 [17:17] <Kealper> 1gb of ram allocated is usually sufficient for a decent server
#2286 [17:17] <aetherian> but if they did spread more or less
#2287 [17:17] <Kealper> avirst3: that needs to be done through a mod or server wrapper, it can't be done with the vanilla client :/
#2288 [17:17] <aetherian> allowing for full freedom
#2289 [17:17] <Kealper> vanilla server*
#2290 [17:18] <avirst3> ah
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#2292 [17:18] <Kealper> aetherian: yeah it should do 10 people just fine
#2293 [17:18] <aetherian> I'm thinking of going together with some friends where we all chip in to rent a server
#2294 [17:18] <aetherian> :)
#2295 [17:18] <avirst3> Could you point me in a direction that I could search on my own so to not waist irc valuable time?
#2296 [17:18] <tpw_lappy> um, i don't see anything pertaining to mobs
#2297 [17:18] <Stimpson> I just created an account and I can't mine block or open a chest. any ideas?
#2298 [17:18] <Kealper> i would like to test my server, but i can't find enough people to join it all at once :/
#2299 [17:18] <Stimpson> If i log onto my account it works fine i made my account yesterday. But if i log onto my friends acount that i made today it doesnt work
#2300 [17:18] <Kealper> Stimpson: multiplayer?
#2301 [17:18] <Stimpson> yes
#2302 [17:19] <Kealper> are you running the server?
#2303 [17:19] <Stimpson> yes
#2304 [17:19] <aetherian> kealper: how much ram is dedicated to the thing?
#2305 [17:19] <Kealper> your friend is not set as a server op, and is digging too clos eto spawn
#2306 [17:19] <Kealper> close to*
#2307 [17:19] <Stimpson> thank you!!!
#2308 [17:19] <Kealper> spawn has a radius of about 16 blocks that can not be modified by non-ops
#2309 [17:19] <Kealper> aetherian: what thing?
#2310 [17:20] <aetherian> I wonder how many people have come here because of that... any way, I meant to the mcserver
#2311 [17:20] <aetherian> 4gig?
#2312 [17:20] <Kealper> tons, and my mc server?
#2313 [17:20] <Stimpson> is that why he cant open a door or a box as well?
#2314 [17:20] <aetherian> oh nevermind >.>
#2315 [17:20] <aetherian> stimpson: make him op
#2316 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> Stimpson: yes; no blocks can be modified by non-ops in the protection zone
#2317 [17:21] <Kealper> mine is just 1gb allocated, but the machine has 6 gigs of ram so i could dedicate a ton if i wanted
#2318 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> opening a door counds as modifying a block
#2319 [17:21] <Kealper> ^
#2320 [17:21] <aetherian> can't you right click, or is that a mod thing?
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#2322 [17:21] <oranges> can someone help meh?
#2323 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> sure: There is no 'h' in 'me'.
#2324 [17:22] <aetherian> dopeghoti: don't flamebait >.>
#2325 [17:22] <oranges> when i start minecraft it tells me that thers bad video card drivers
#2326 [17:22] * aetherian eats the fish
#2326 [17:22] <aetherian> I know what your problem is
#2327 [17:22] <oranges> im on a computer at my fathers work...
#2328 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> what? I'm helping with spelling, not seeing anything else I could help with.
#2329 [17:22] <tpw_lappy> oh eew it's creating it in my home directory
#2330 [17:22] <aetherian> apples are better than oranges
#2331 [17:22] <oranges> its running windows xP
#2332 [17:22] <Kealper> oranges: so that means it has bad video card drivers :P
#2333 [17:22] <oranges> can i fix that?
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#2335 [17:23] <Kealper> if it tells you that, and it's a work computer, there is probably no hope for it, it is probably just crappy
#2336 [17:23] <oranges> i see... it is a dell
#2337 [17:23] <Kealper> work computers are usually cheap computers that have garbage for their video cards
#2338 [17:24] <oranges> its a dell xp profesinoal
#2339 [17:24] <oranges> on the sticker on the side
#2340 [17:24] <Kealper> that doesn't help at all with what it can run
#2341 [17:24] <oranges> =p
#2342 [17:24] <Kealper> is there a sticker on it that says what cpu and graphics it has? or how much ram it has? lol
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#2344 [17:24] <oranges> ill check
#2345 [17:24] <Kealper> heck, what's it's model number
#2346 [17:25] <oranges> ok no sticke
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#2348 [17:25] <oranges> service tak work?
#2349 [17:25] <Kealper> and i think i just failed at spelling...i'm pretty sure that was supposed to be what's its
#2350 [17:26] <oranges> will the survace tag work*?
#2351 [17:26] <wakx> hi
#2352 [17:26] <Kealper> probably not.....it should say a model number on the front
#2353 [17:26] <Kealper> hi wakx
#2354 [17:26] <wakx> can someone help me?
#2355 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: successful as spelling, bad at grammar, goot at subsequent correction :
#2356 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> :)
#2357 [17:26] <oranges> ok its 6GDDW41
#2358 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> wakx: with?
#2359 [17:26] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper dell lets you type in the service tag to their website
#2360 [17:26] <wakx> i just bought and account
#2361 [17:26] <wakx> and it say i'm not a premium member i can't log in
#2362 [17:26] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: oh, i don't have a dell so that's news to me lol
#2363 [17:27] <avirst3> Um, I have found a server wrapper, and Have the files open but don't know what to do with the files, I have the link I got it from should I post that here so I can recieve additional help?
#2364 [17:27] <mecael> Is Buckit useable yet?
#2365 [17:27] <xolotl> (I realize that this is vaguely offtopic, but) I assume that email notifications from minecraftforum.net were disabled On Purpose, and it's not just me who doesn't get them?
#2366 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> xolotl: I too am no longer getting them :/
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#2368 [17:27] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: kk, I figured it was probably causing some issues for the folks hosting it
#2369 [17:28] <xolotl> But figured it may not hurt to doublecheck. :)
#2370 [17:28] <tpw_lappy> it's refusing to destroy blocks now
#2371 [17:28] <wakx> :/
#2372 [17:28] <Kealper> tpw_lappy: move away from spawn
#2373 [17:28] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper, oranges computer is a Dimension 4600
#2374 [17:28] <Kealper> oh gosh
#2375 [17:28] <oranges> is that terrable
#2376 [17:28] <oranges> ??
#2377 [17:28] <tpw_lappy> but i found a nice cave right near it
#2378 [17:28] <Kealper> that's icky
#2379 [17:28] <wakx> how long does it take after i bought an account to get it premium ? should i receive an e mail or something?
#2380 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> wakx: should take less then a day. How long has it been?
#2381 [17:29] <oranges> akx it only took me about 15 min
#2382 [17:29] <wakx> hm 5 min
#2383 [17:29] <oranges> lol
#2384 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> wakx: give it a couple hours.
#2385 [17:29] <wakx> but thing is
#2386 [17:29] <oranges> just wait a little
#2387 [17:29] <wakx> i haven't got a mail or something
#2388 [17:29] <wakx> saying i bought it
#2389 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> wakx: did you buy via PayPal or some other means?
#2390 [17:29] <oranges> the order is probablu still proccessing
#2391 [17:29] <wakx> other
#2392 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> Give it a couple hours.
#2393 [17:30] <aetherian> what's a good place to rent a server (fit for a small number of people for MC)
#2394 [17:30] <Kealper> oranges: that computer can't play minecraft unless it has been upgraded :/
#2395 [17:30] <wakx> so tomorrow i should be able to log in right?
#2396 [17:30] <oranges> ok ty for the help
#2397 [17:30] <oranges> there is another computer
#2398 [17:30] <oranges> i can use it
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#2400 [17:31] <oranges> so ill check the numbah on that?
#2401 [17:31] <Kealper> if it's newer than that dell then it might work
#2402 [17:31] <oranges> oke
#2403 [17:31] <Slixshot> hello, is anyone able to help me set up a server so my 4 friends and I can play together?
#2404 [17:31] <Slixshot> or is that not even possible?
#2405 [17:31] <Kealper> the main issue with that dell that you are on is that it does not have enough ram
#2406 [17:31] <aetherian> it may be possible
#2407 [17:31] <Kealper> and it's onboard graphics are garbage
#2408 [17:31] <SkiingPenguins> Slixshot you can download a server program
#2409 [17:31] <aetherian> slixshot: get a 12+ gigabyte hexacore server
#2410 [17:31] <Kealper> !server
#2411 [17:31] <aetherian> then we can talk
#2412 [17:32] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper so is the dell 1525's Intel mobile graphics
#2413 [17:32] <Stimpson> is there a command to change the spawn location?
#2414 [17:32] <SkiingPenguins> no
#2415 [17:32] <Slixshot> o.o sounds complicated.
#2416 [17:32] <SkiingPenguins> it can be pretty intense
#2417 [17:33] <aetherian> slixshot: what OS
#2418 [17:33] <Slixshot> Windows 7 64 bit
#2419 [17:33] <Slixshot> pro
#2420 [17:33] <aetherian> download the exe
#2421 [17:33] <aetherian> run it once, and type in stop
#2422 [17:33] <aetherian> once it loads
#2423 [17:34] <avirst3> Um, I found a server wrapper with the compatibility for the current server files, but I don't know where to place them, here is the link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1023&t=23127 , any Idea where to place the files?
#2424 [17:34] <aetherian> slixshot: done yet?
#2425 [17:34] <Slixshot> nope
#2426 [17:35] <aetherian> doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
#2427 [17:35] <Slixshot> what did that do? it just exited the program?
#2428 [17:35] <aetherian> yeah
#2429 [17:35] <aetherian> now go the the folder it was in
#2430 [17:36] <aetherian> to the properties file
#2431 [17:36] <aetherian> open it with notepad/wtv
#2432 [17:36] <Kealper> avirst3: this channel does not provide support for third party software, so unless you can find someone who knows about that wrapper, you probably won't find someone here that can help
#2433 [17:36] <avirst3> ok thanks
#2434 [17:36] <aetherian> slixshot: there yet?
#2435 [17:36] <SkiingPenguins> avirst3 if you dont know how to read those instructions, you shouldnt use it.
#2436 [17:36] <Slixshot> I'm going to have to stop you right there... I actually must go, ty for the help
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#2438 [17:37] <avirst3> no no, I did till the point of where to place the files
#2439 [17:37] <SkiingPenguins> that's step 1.
#2440 [17:37] <Kealper> lol
#2441 [17:37] <aetherian> ....................
#2442 [17:37] <aetherian> dammit slix
#2443 [17:38] <avirst3> lol
#2444 [17:38] <SkiingPenguins> oh well he'll be back
#2445 [17:38] <oranges> they allways come bak
#2446 [17:38] <aetherian> I was actually going to help him too
#2447 [17:39] <aetherian> unlike most people on the channel
#2448 [17:39] <aetherian> when
#2449 [17:39] <aetherian> confronted with home server setup
#2450 [17:39] <oranges> anyone know a good rpg texture pak?
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#2452 [17:39] <aetherian> howabout...
#2453 [17:39] <aetherian> the rpg texture pack?
#2454 [17:40] <oranges> lol
#2455 [17:40] <oranges> thers suck a ding?
#2456 [17:40] <oranges> thers such a thing*?
#2457 [17:40] <oranges> should i just google it/>
#2458 [17:40] <oranges> ????
#2459 [17:40] <aetherian> http://tinyurl.com/6gcf2n6
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#2461 [17:40] <aetherian> right there
#2462 [17:40] <FFFFF\> PLEASE FUCKING HELP.
#2463 [17:40] <FFFFF\> FF
#2464 [17:40] <FFFFF\> okay, so i'm probably just retarded
#2465 [17:41] <FFFFF\> but
#2466 [17:41] <aetherian> probably
#2467 [17:41] <FFFFF\> minecraft keeps giving error (2): null
#2468 [17:41] <FFFFF\> when i login
#2469 [17:41] <FFFFF\> wat do.
#2470 [17:41] <aetherian> oranges: did you follow my link?
#2471 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> FFFFF\: Client or server?
#2472 [17:42] <FFFFF\> client
#2473 [17:42] <aetherian> dopeghoti: I thought it would be F:\ not F\:
#2474 [17:42] <aetherian> :P
#2475 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> FFFFF\: I saw a mention a little bit ago of the auth servers being a little squirrely, but retrying once or thrice usually does the trick.
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#2477 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: no, it'd be /dev/hdd1
#2478 [17:43] <aetherian> windows ftl
#2479 [17:44] <FFFFF\> NOT WORKING.
#2480 [17:44] <FFFFF\> FF
#2481 [17:44] <FFFFF\> FFF
#2482 [17:45] <Kealper> woot....my pasty is done cooking
#2483 [17:45] <aetherian> o_O pasty
#2484 [17:45] <oranges> pasty?
#2485 [17:45] <aetherian> you mean pastry?
#2486 [17:45] <oranges> pastery?
#2487 [17:45] <oranges> lolol
#2488 [17:45] <Kealper> pasty
#2489 [17:46] <Kealper> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty
#2490 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> you cook your nippleshields?
#2491 [17:46] <aetherian> !wiki pasty
#2492 [17:46] <aetherian> awe
#2493 [17:46] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty
#2494 [17:46] <GreyBot> A pasty (pronounced /ˈpæsti/ Cornish: Hogen; Pasti), known in (West) Cornish dialect as tiddy/teddy oggy/oggin, and sometimes as pastie in the United States, is a filled pastry case, commonly associated with Cornwall, a Royal Duchy in South West England in the United Kingdom. It differs from a pie as it is made by placing the filling on a flat pastry shape, usually a circle, and
#2495 [17:46] <GreyBot> folding it to wrap the filling, crimping the edge to form a seal. The result is a raised semicircular package. The traditional Cornish pasty is filled with beef, sliced potato, turnip or swede (also known as a rutabaga) and onion, and baked. Pasties with many different fillings are made; some shops specialise in selling all sorts of pasties. In a proper pasty, the filling ingredients must never
#2496 [17:46] <GreyBot> be cooked before they are wrapped in the pastry casing; that is the main difference between a pasty and an empanada.
#2497 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> FFFFF\: a> stop shouting; b> be patient and try again in a couple minutes.
#2498 [17:46] <aetherian> oh yay
#2499 [17:46] <Kealper> oh gosh
#2500 [17:46] <aetherian> lol
#2501 [17:46] <oranges> yummm
#2502 [17:46] <oranges> wana send one to me?
#2503 [17:46] <oranges> xDD
#2504 [17:47] <Kealper> mine! all mine!
#2505 [17:47] <oranges> ahhh
#2506 [17:47] <aetherian> I like !wiki to stuff
#2507 [17:47] <aetherian> useful
#2508 [17:47] <oranges> !check
#2509 [17:47] <aetherian> !check
#2510 [17:47] <oranges> i dont have a server up
#2511 [17:47] <oranges> lol
#2512 [17:47] <Kealper> !wiki spam
#2513 [17:47] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam
#2514 [17:47] <GreyBot> Spam may refer to:
#2515 [17:47] <aetherian> !check
#2516 [17:47] <aetherian> fail, kealper
#2517 [17:47] <aetherian> !wiki chatbot
#2518 [17:47] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatterbot
#2519 [17:47] <GreyBot> A chatbot (or chatterbot, or chat bot) is a computer program designed to simulate an intelligent conversation with one or more human users via auditory or textual methods. Traditionally, the aim of such simulation has been to fool the user into thinking that the program's output has been produced by a human (the Turing test). Programs playing this role are sometimes referred to as Artificial
#2520 [17:47] <GreyBot> Conversational Entities, talk bots or chatterboxes. More recently, however, chatbot-like methods have been used for practical purposes such as online help, personalised service, or information acquisition, in which case the program is functioning as a type of conversational agent. What distinguishes a chatbot from more sophisticated natural language processing systems is the simplicity of the
#2521 [17:47] <GreyBot> algorithms used. Although many chatbots do appear to interpret human input intelligently when generating their responses, many simply scan for keywords within the input and pull a reply with the most matching keywords, or the most similar wording pattern, from a textual database.
#2522 [17:47] <oranges> nice
#2523 [17:48] <aetherian> ...wrong kind of chatbot
#2524 [17:48] <oranges> !wiki chat bot
#2525 [17:48] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatterbot
#2526 [17:48] <GreyBot> A chatbot (or chatterbot, or chat bot) is a computer program designed to simulate an intelligent conversation with one or more human users via auditory or textual methods. Traditionally, the aim of such simulation has been to fool the user into thinking that the program's output has been produced by a human (the Turing test). Programs playing this role are sometimes referred to as Artificial
#2527 [17:48] <GreyBot> Conversational Entities, talk bots or chatterboxes. More recently, however, chatbot-like methods have been used for practical purposes such as online help, personalised service, or information acquisition, in which case the program is functioning as a type of conversational agent. What distinguishes a chatbot from more sophisticated natural language processing systems is the simplicity of the
#2528 [17:48] <GreyBot> algorithms used
#2529 [17:48] <oranges> !wiki chat bot
#2530 [17:48] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatterbot
#2531 [17:48] <GreyBot> A chatbot (or chatterbot, or chat bot) is a computer program designed to simulate an intelligent conversation with one or more human users via auditory or textual methods. Traditionally, the aim of such simulation has been to fool the user into thinking that the program's output has been produced by a human (the Turing test). Programs playing this role are sometimes referred to as Artificial
#2532 [17:48] <GreyBot> Conversational Entities, talk bots or chatterboxes. More recently, however, chatbot-like methods have been used for practical purposes such as online help, personalised service, or information acquisition, in which case the program is functioning as a type of conversational agent. What distinguishes a chatbot from more sophisticated natural language processing systems is the simplicity of the
#2533 [17:48] <GreyBot> algorithms used. Although many chatbots do appear to interpret human input intelligently when generating their responses, many simply scan for keywords within the input and pull a reply with the most matching keywords, or the most similar wording pattern, from a textual database.
#2534 [17:48] <oranges> loolol
#2535 [17:48] <oranges> im done now
#2536 [17:48] <Kealper> >.>
#2537 [17:48] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: your bot spams too much
#2538 [17:48] <oranges> hello/
#2539 [17:48] <oranges> oke
#2540 [17:48] <oranges> im sorry
#2541 [17:49] <oranges> jw but what is inside your pastie?
#2542 [17:49] <Kealper> http://mchelp.darksigns.net/rules.html
#2543 [17:49] <Kealper> traditional beef pasty >.>
#2544 [17:49] <oranges> oke
#2545 [17:49] <aetherian> kealper: we did not spam, greybot did.
#2546 [17:49] <aetherian> :D
#2547 [17:49] <oranges> i will no longer spam
#2548 [17:49] <aetherian> but kk I won't use it (for a minute or two)
#2549 [17:49] <oranges> or spam
#2550 [17:49] <oranges> or spam
#2551 [17:49] <Kealper> - Do not abuse the helper bot (AuBot). Repeat offenders will be kicked from the channel.
#2552 [17:49] <oranges> or spaz
#2553 [17:50] <Kealper> helper bot also includes GreyBot
#2554 [17:50] <aetherian> greybot is not aubot
#2555 [17:50] <aetherian> awe
#2556 [17:50] <oranges> !wiki oranges
#2557 [17:50] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_%28fruit%29
#2558 [17:50] <GreyBot> An orange—specifically, the sweet orange—is the citrus Citrus × ​sinensis (Citrus Sinensis (L.) Osbeck) and its fruit. The orange is a hybrid of ancient cultivated origin, possibly between pomelo (Citrus maxima) and mandarin (Citrus reticulata). It is an evergreen flowering tree generally growing to 9-10 m in height (although very old speciments have reached 15 m). The leaves are
#2559 [17:50] <GreyBot> arranged alternately, are ovate in shape with crenulate margins and are 4–10 cm long. The orange fruit is a hesperidium, a type of berry.
#2560 [17:50] <oranges> im sorry
#2561 [17:50] <Kealper> ..............
#2562 [17:50] <oranges> i just wanted to try it
#2563 [17:50] <oranges> it just tempted me
#2564 [17:50] <aetherian> Keep other discussion to a minimum. lol.
#2565 [17:51] <oranges> i had to know how i was made
#2566 [17:51] <oranges> so about them creepers
#2567 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: You might want to look into making your bot /notice !wiki replies to the supplicant
#2568 [17:51] <aetherian> http://tinyurl.com/46gub67 , oranges.
#2569 [17:51] <aetherian> hmm
#2570 [17:52] <aetherian> but that would defeat the point of doing something like "what is ip?" "!wiki IP"
#2571 [17:52] <oranges> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=I+know+lol
#2572 [17:52] <aetherian> oranges: it's not as good if you don't hide it
#2573 [17:53] <aetherian> kealper/greyvulpine: you need a !google command that brings up a tinyurl for an lmgtfy =\
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#2575 [17:53] <aetherian> because
#2576 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> s/google/stfw/
#2577 [17:53] <Kealper> aetherian: i was literally thinking of doing that like 2 days ago
#2578 [17:53] <aetherian> that would /never/ be abused
#2579 [17:53] <aetherian> kealper: great minds think alike.
#2580 [17:53] <aetherian> so uh
#2581 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> You know what's never abused in here? The Enter key.
#2582 [17:53] <aetherian> how did you think of that
#2583 [17:53] <aetherian> seeing as...
#2584 [17:54] <aetherian> uh...
#2585 [17:54] <aetherian> dopeghoti: do your part
#2586 [17:54] <SkiingPenguins> its against the rules
#2587 [17:54] <aetherian> what is?
#2588 [17:55] <aetherian> the !wiki command?
#2589 [17:55] <Kealper> that reminds me
#2590 [17:55] <Kealper> !info
#2591 [17:55] <aetherian> ...fail
#2592 [17:55] <Kealper> !time
#2593 [17:55] <GreyBot> GreyBot's time is: Tue Jan 25 17:55:49 2011.
#2594 [17:55] <aetherian> !help
#2595 [17:56] <aetherian> there we go
#2596 [17:56] <Kealper> i'm not looking for those bots
#2597 [17:56] <aetherian> !kick aetherian
#2598 [17:56] <aetherian> awe
#2599 [17:56] <Kealper> !seen asdf
#2600 [17:56] <GreyBot> I last saw asdf (Mibbit@174-26-166-107.phnx.qwest.net) 2days 1hr 20mins 39secs ago, quitting from IRC, saying: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client
#2601 [17:56] <aetherian> reinstate that asap
#2602 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> !kick aetherian this is how it's done.
#2603 [17:56] <aetherian> fail...
#2604 [17:56] <Kealper> carry on
#2605 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I think I'm not as whitelisted on AuBot as you implied that I am.
#2606 [17:56] <aetherian> !kick aetherian
#2607 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> ah
#2608 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2609 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> !kick aetherian this is how it's done.
#2610 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
#2611 [17:57] <Kealper> aubot stop sucking
#2612 [17:57] <Kealper> dope type !disable
#2613 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> !disable
#2614 [17:57] <Kealper> hmm...guess i must have forgot to save that after adding you
#2615 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> that'd do it.
#2616 [17:58] <Kealper> oh
#2617 [17:58] <Kealper> no....i just sucked at spelling your name lol
#2618 [17:58] <Kealper> msg AuBot !reload mod_mchelp
#2619 [17:58] <Kealper> fail
#2620 [17:58] <Kealper> nailed that one
#2621 [17:58] <Kealper> carry on....again...lol
#2622 [17:58] <aetherian> !kick aetherian
#2623 [17:59] <aetherian> awe
#2624 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> !kick aetherian this is how it's done.
#2625 [17:59] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: I love you too! <3 (Issued by DopeGhoti with reason: this is how it's done.))
#2626 [17:59] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2627 [17:59] <aetherian> that's not a kick
#2628 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> Tsk tsk, autorejoin?
#2629 [17:59] <aetherian> it's a ban
#2630 [17:59] <aetherian> and I did not use auto
#2631 [17:59] <Kealper> it does a 5 sec ban, to prevent autojoin
#2632 [17:59] <aetherian> haha
#2633 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> you came in awfully immediately after the ban expired.
#2634 [18:00] <aetherian> dopeghoti: there is nothing more I can say than no, I did not use auto
#2635 [18:00] * DopeGhoti shrugs
#2635 [18:00] <SkiingPenguins> auto with your clicker
#2636 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> well timed, then.
#2637 [18:00] <aetherian> sadly, I can't kick myself
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#2639 [18:01] <aetherian> kealper: add something that people can kick themselves
#2640 [18:01] <aetherian> :D
#2641 [18:01] <Kealper> they can....if they can use the command...lol
#2642 [18:01] <Kealper> !kick AuBot
#2643 [18:01] <aetherian> when's aubot v2.0 coming out?
#2644 [18:01] <Kealper> (that was suposed to fail)
#2645 [18:01] <aetherian> and I meant that anyone can kick themselves...
#2646 [18:01] <Kealper> it is aubot v2
#2647 [18:01] <aetherian> oh it is?
#2648 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> CTCP VERSION reply from AuBot: AuBot v2 revision: 72. AuBot v2 � 2011 :: Ken Piper.
#2649 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> apparently it's v2.72
#2650 [18:02] <aetherian> Ken Piper...
#2651 [18:02] <aetherian> like a fairy tale
#2652 [18:02] <aetherian> the purple piper
#2653 [18:02] <aetherian> that's your new nick
#2654 [18:02] <Kealper> purple piper?
#2655 [18:03] <aetherian> purple piper, I got it from a song
#2656 [18:03] <aetherian> a ruddy good song
#2657 [18:03] <aetherian> in the court of the crimson king
#2658 [18:03] <Kealper> right....
#2659 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> Why do I feel like I'm missing a Dark Tower reference or something?
#2660 [18:03] <aetherian> you aren'ty
#2661 [18:03] <aetherian> it's by king crimson
#2662 [18:03] <aetherian> last song on their debut album
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#2664 [18:04] <Kealper> nipper's internet connection sucks right now
#2665 [18:04] * aetherian pulls out cmd and auto pings nip
#2665 [18:04] <aetherian> oh er uh I mean
#2666 [18:05] <Kealper> cmd ping is slow :/
#2667 [18:05] * aetherian pulls out LOIC and autopings nip
#2667 [18:05] <aetherian> >:D
#2668 [18:05] <Kealper> there ya go
#2669 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> hping3 is more fun.
#2670 [18:05] <aetherian> I actually have that, too...
#2671 [18:05] <aetherian> I think I may have hping3, not sure.
#2672 [18:05] <aetherian> wait
#2673 [18:05] <aetherian> how can anything be more fun than
#2674 [18:06] <aetherian> something with various memes put into it
#2675 [18:06] <aetherian> :o
#2676 [18:06] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: what sort of attack is it? just icmp ping flood?
#2677 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: you can use it to craft any sort of packets you want.
#2678 [18:07] <Kealper> ahh
#2679 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> "Here, have some out-of-order fragmented TCP SYNs"
#2680 [18:07] <aetherian> ow ow ow
#2681 [18:07] <Kealper> xD
#2682 [18:07] <aetherian> quit trying to DoS people with frag 'nades
#2683 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> It's not a _D_oS if the attack originate from one point.
#2684 [18:08] * DopeGhoti retracts that.
#2684 [18:08] <aetherian> haha
#2685 [18:08] <aetherian> DDoS is multi
#2686 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> it's not a _D_DoS in that cast.
#2687 [18:08] <aetherian> DoS is single
#2688 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> er, case.
#2689 [18:08] <aetherian> body cast...
#2690 [18:09] <aetherian> or, in your case, a nutcase
#2691 [18:10] <SkiingPenguins> are there actual cases for pecans?
#2692 [18:10] <aetherian> YES
#2693 [18:10] <aetherian> VERY YES
#2694 [18:10] <Kealper> huh?
#2695 [18:10] <feenyx> http://www.google.com/images?q=pecan+case&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=925
#2696 [18:10] <feenyx> pecan case
#2697 [18:11] <aetherian> http://bit.ly/hXaaFz
#2698 [18:11] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: you should use that program and hit kealper.com:8080 with an http GET
#2699 [18:11] <aetherian> for a good one
#2700 [18:11] <aetherian> http get?
#2701 [18:12] <aetherian> meh. LOIC is easy to use for us people annoying friends.
#2702 [18:12] <Kealper> http://tinyurl.com/5t93vhz
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#2704 [18:13] <aetherian> keaper: it's not working...
#2705 [18:13] <aetherian> oh there it goes
#2706 [18:13] <aetherian> oh I bloody well somewhat know what HTTP is
#2707 [18:13] <aetherian> I was asking what the get was
#2708 [18:13] * SkiingPenguins uses HFS
#2708 [18:13] <aetherian> brb, someone door
#2709 [18:14] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i was serious about that url to attack, it's my pure autoit http server lol
#2710 [18:14] <Kealper> address*
#2711 [18:15] <SkiingPenguins> there is one of those for AHK xD
#2712 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> DoS-proof, and I didn't even use hping
#2713 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> Benchmarking kealper.com (be patient)
#2714 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> Test aborted after 10 failures
#2715 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> apr_socket_connect(): Connection refused (61)
#2716 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> Total of 287 requests completed
#2717 [18:15] <Kealper> DoS-proof? as in could not connect? or did not fail? lol
#2718 [18:16] <Kealper> shit, i might have forgot to start it lol
#2719 [18:17] <Kealper> nope..started...what port were you using?
#2720 [18:22] <Kealper> LOL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICMP_tunnel
#2721 [18:22] <aetherian> kealper.com:8080 you say?
#2722 [18:22] <Kealper> that's brilliant
#2723 [18:22] <Kealper> yes?
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#2725 [18:23] <Kealper> tell me when you start the attack so i can monitor system stats
#2726 [18:23] <Jackson413> hi all
#2727 [18:24] <Jackson413> i got an update on my slow upload speed
#2728 [18:24] <aetherian> attack it via http?
#2729 [18:24] <Kealper> yes aetherian
#2730 [18:24] <Jackson413> my old man says it should be 5mbs upload
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#2732 [18:24] <Jackson413> can anyone help me figure out why it is still slow?
#2733 [18:24] <aetherian> ready for me to start?
#2734 [18:24] <epic_the_wiggins> is there an eta to when the servers will be done migrating
#2735 [18:24] <aetherian> note, I have bad inets here
#2736 [18:25] <Kealper> aetherian: do your worst :O
#2737 [18:25] <aetherian> kealper: ima start in 3...2...1...go!
#2738 [18:25] <aetherian> flooding
#2739 [18:25] <aetherian> but I am far away from router, expect it to fail soon
#2740 [18:25] <Jackson413> what are you guys doing?
#2741 [18:25] <aetherian> jackson: DoSing kealper's website
#2742 [18:25] <Jackson413> what is that?
#2743 [18:26] <aetherian> yeah kealper, my internet is bugging out
#2744 [18:26] <Jackson413> dosing?
#2745 [18:26] <Kealper> wait
#2746 [18:26] <aetherian> it's like bouncing off of you and hitting me
#2747 [18:26] <Kealper> you did that on wireless?
#2748 [18:26] <aetherian> yes
#2749 [18:26] <aetherian> wireless
#2750 [18:26] <aetherian> did it do something?
#2751 [18:26] <Kealper> the only thing you'd be DoSing would be your router lol
#2752 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> heh
#2753 [18:26] <aetherian> ohhhhhh
#2754 [18:26] <Kealper> yeah, there was a spike
#2755 [18:26] <aetherian> no wonder
#2756 [18:26] <Jackson413> what is DoSing?
#2757 [18:26] <aetherian> rofl
#2758 [18:26] * DopeGhoti is wired though
#2758 [18:26] <Jackson413> yo dope
#2759 [18:26] <aetherian> meh
#2760 [18:26] <aetherian> I'll wire it later
#2761 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: it's naughty and I shouldn't be doing it.
#2762 [18:26] <aetherian> if I can find the cord
#2763 [18:26] <Jackson413> i have an update on my slow ass thing
#2764 [18:26] <epic_the_wiggins> any one have a geuss when the servers will be done migrating
#2765 [18:26] <aetherian> that darn ethernet always getting lost
#2766 [18:27] <aetherian> so wait...
#2767 [18:27] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: oh, did you start doing that?
#2768 [18:27] <aetherian> if I DoS via wireless and DoS the router...
#2769 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> start? It's still doing.
#2770 [18:27] <aetherian> then...
#2771 [18:27] <Jackson413> my old man says the upload speed is 5mbs
#2772 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> not very aggressively, but still
#2773 [18:27] <aetherian> it would effectively DoS everyone using the router?
#2774 [18:27] <Jackson413> so why am i at .64 mbs?
#2775 [18:27] <aetherian> I see potential lulz when my sister is streaming vids
#2776 [18:27] <aetherian> :D
#2777 [18:28] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: needs moar aggression
#2778 [18:28] <aetherian> I'm so mean :3
#2779 [18:28] <aetherian> dopeghoti: what prog you usin'?
#2780 [18:28] <Jackson413> keal can i use a loic?
#2781 [18:28] <aetherian> yeh
#2782 [18:28] <aetherian> LOIC
#2783 [18:28] <Kealper> my autoit server is yawning at this weak spam
#2784 [18:29] <aetherian> it's detected by two virus scanners on my computer
#2785 [18:29] <Jackson413> can i use a LOIC?
#2786 [18:29] <Kealper> kealper.com on port 8080 (NOT port 80)
#2787 [18:29] * DopeGhoti starts compiling hping3
#2787 [18:29] <aetherian> I gotta disable one, and ignore the other
#2788 [18:29] <aetherian> >.>
#2789 [18:29] <Jackson413> what is DoSing?
#2790 [18:29] <aetherian> I gotta uninstall MSE
#2791 [18:29] <Jackson413> im still not getting it
#2792 [18:29] <aetherian> !wiki DoS
#2793 [18:29] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS
#2794 [18:29] <GreyBot> DOS, short for "Disk Operating System", is an acronym for several closely related operating systems that dominated the IBM PC compatible market between 1981 and 1995, or until about 2000 if one includes the partially DOS-based Microsoft Windows versions 95, 98, and Millennium Edition.
#2795 [18:29] <aetherian> *()^*(^)
#2796 [18:29] <aetherian> dammit
#2797 [18:29] <Kealper> !wiki denial of service
#2798 [18:29] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack
#2799 [18:29] <GreyBot> A denial-of-service attack (DoS attack) or distributed denial-of-service attack (DDoS attack) is an attempt to make a computer resource unavailable to its intended users. Although the means to carry out, motives for, and targets of a DoS attack may vary, it generally consists of the concerted efforts of a person or people to prevent an Internet site or service from functioning efficiently or at
#2800 [18:29] <GreyBot> all, temporarily or indefinitely. Perpetrators of DoS attacks typically target sites or services hosted on high-profile web servers such as banks, credit card payment gateways, and even root nameservers. The term is generally used with regards to computer networks, but is not limited to this field, for example, it is also used in reference to CPU resource management.
#2801 [18:29] <aetherian> there
#2802 [18:29] <Jackson413> EPIC FAIL!
#2803 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> Stop it iwth the wikispam
#2804 [18:30] <aetherian> kealper did the big one not me
#2805 [18:30] <Toh> wiki!
#2806 [18:30] <Kealper> that last one was me
#2807 [18:30] <Toh> spam!
#2808 [18:30] <Jackson413> so basically it is a user powered loic?
#2809 [18:30] <aetherian> ....
#2810 [18:30] <Toh> ..
#2811 [18:30] <aetherian> LOIC DoSes people
#2812 [18:30] <aetherian> roflmao
#2813 [18:30] <aetherian> augh, I lost it
#2814 [18:30] <Jackson413> well i certainly look like a noob now dont i
#2815 [18:30] <aetherian> I laughed it clean off
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#2817 [18:31] <Jackson413> dope
#2818 [18:31] <aetherian> yes, yes you do.
#2819 [18:31] <aetherian> herp derp de diddly erp
#2820 [18:31] <Jackson413> lol
#2821 [18:32] <aetherian> dope: launch it yet?
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#2823 [18:33] <aetherian> +
#2824 [18:33] <aetherian> ack
#2825 [18:33] <aetherian> note to self
#2826 [18:33] <aetherian> don't furiously scrub the keyboard whilst in IRC
#2827 [18:34] <aetherian> dopeghoti: launch it?
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#2830 [18:36] <NinjaKirby> Mmm yeah, launch it
#2831 [18:37] <Jackson413> so wait do you still want me to use the loic?
#2832 [18:37] <Kealper> if you really wanted to lol
#2833 [18:38] <aetherian> jackson: are you using wireless?
#2834 [18:39] <Jackson413> no
#2835 [18:39] <aetherian> then definitely use loic, put it for max.
#2836 [18:39] <Jackson413> kealper.com
#2837 [18:39] <Kealper> PORT 8080
#2838 [18:39] <Kealper> make sure you do port 8080
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#2840 [18:39] <aetherian> via HTTP
#2841 [18:39] <aetherian> not TCP
#2842 [18:39] <NinjaKirby> Fact: Elsewise his PC will explode
#2843 [18:39] <zippity> I can't play on any of the servers and it looks like other people are playing on just about every one of them. The first time I click I get a "Failed to connect" msg and all other times I get a black screen.
#2844 [18:39] <Jackson413> how do i put the port?
#2845 [18:39] <Jackson413> im a noob with this
#2846 [18:40] <aetherian> in the section marked port...
#2847 [18:40] <aetherian> below the IP
#2848 [18:40] <Jackson413> tcp?
#2849 [18:40] <aetherian> HTTP
#2850 [18:40] <aetherian> I think
#2851 [18:40] <Jackson413> threads?
#2852 [18:40] <aetherian> dunno
#2853 [18:40] <aetherian> kealper?
#2854 [18:40] <Kealper> how ever many you want
#2855 [18:40] <Jackson413> well time to do my worst
#2856 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> 65535 threads should work.
#2857 [18:40] <Jackson413> 1000?
#2858 [18:40] <aetherian> set it to 1000
#2859 [18:41] <aetherian> or 65535
#2860 [18:41] <Jackson413> LOAD
#2861 [18:41] <aetherian> IMMA CHARGIN MAH LAZORZ
#2862 [18:41] <Jackson413> AIM
#2863 [18:41] <Jackson413> FIRE
#2864 [18:41] <aetherian> IMA FI- you get it.
#2865 [18:41] <zippity> can any1 help me?
#2866 [18:41] <zippity> I can't play on any of the servers and it looks like other people are playing on just about every one of them. The first time I click I get a "Failed to connect" msg and all other times I get a black screen.
#2867 [18:41] <aetherian> no, zippity
#2868 [18:41] <aetherian> we cannot help you
#2869 [18:41] <zippity> ah!!!!!!!! >:(
#2870 [18:41] <Jackson413> lol
#2871 [18:41] <Jackson413> i crashed the program
#2872 [18:41] <zippity> >>::((
#2873 [18:42] <zippity> WHY CANT I TYPE ANGRY FACE?!?
#2874 [18:42] <zippity> :|
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#2876 [18:42] <aetherian> lol jackson
#2877 [18:42] <Jackson413> gona go eat diner im attacking now with some
#2878 [18:42] <aetherian> :OOO
#2879 [18:42] <aetherian> wait
#2880 [18:42] <aetherian> you're going to eat a dine :O
#2881 [18:42] <aetherian> diner
#2882 [18:43] <aetherian> augh I fail
#2883 [18:43] <aetherian> !kick aetherian
#2884 [18:43] <aetherian> oh right...
#2885 [18:43] <zippity> can i get help now? please?
#2886 [18:43] * NinjaKirby pats Aetherian's back
#2886 [18:44] <aetherian> no, zippity
#2887 [18:44] <aetherian> I already answered
#2888 [18:44] <zippity> !!!!!!!
#2889 [18:44] <zippity> when?
#2890 [18:44] <aetherian> we;re too busy DDoSing kealper
#2891 [18:44] <aetherian> zippity: I already said we cannot help
#2892 [18:44] <aetherian> >:O
#2893 [18:44] <zippity> 
#2894 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> zippity: seriously, though
#2895 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> have you tried reinstalling the client binaries?
#2896 [18:44] <zippity> the wha?
#2897 [18:45] <aetherian> you think he knows what that means :O
#2898 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#2899 [18:45] <aetherian> delete the bin folder
#2900 [18:45] <aetherian> and run the thing again
#2901 [18:45] <aetherian> !PING
#2902 [18:45] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.51 Seconds.
#2903 [18:45] <zippity> what folder?
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#2905 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> "the thing" way to be specific, aetherian .
#2906 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> zippity: again
#2907 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#2908 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> ^this
#2909 [18:45] <NinjaKirby> lol, pwned
#2910 [18:45] <aetherian> dopeghoti: the thing=minecraft.jar/exe/wtv
#2911 [18:45] <zippity> there is no folder there is only minecratf
#2912 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: _I_ know this.
#2913 [18:46] <aetherian> OS, zippity?
#2914 [18:46] <zippity> yeah
#2915 [18:46] <aetherian> ...
#2916 [18:46] <aetherian> wait what?
#2917 [18:46] <aetherian> whois drakerla
#2918 [18:46] <aetherian> ack
#2919 [18:46] <aetherian> dammit
#2920 [18:46] <aetherian> you fail aetherian
#2921 [18:46] <exp0> any legal links to the 1.2_01 client since I cant downpatch
#2922 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> !client
#2923 [18:47] <NinjaKirby> You are the definition of confusion
#2924 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> ^ the only valid links.
#2925 [18:47] <exp0> That is the 1.2_02 client which doesn't help at all.
#2926 [18:47] <aetherian> ...
#2927 [18:47] <aetherian> heh
#2928 [18:47] <aetherian> lul
#2929 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> exp0: All clients explicitly say "Do not distribute", so getting them elsewhence is a violation of the Minecraft TOS.
#2930 [18:47] <Kealper> who lives in Columbus?
#2931 [18:48] <zippity> i think we ar off topic... is ther any1 here who actually gives a crap?
#2932 [18:48] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#2933 [18:48] <SkiingPenguins> ive never heard of your problem so thus i say nothing
#2934 [18:48] <zippity> I can't play on any of the servers and it looks like other people are playing on just about every one of them. The first time I click I get a "Failed to connect" msg and all other times I get a black screen.
#2935 [18:48] <exp0> which is a huge reason why they need not update the client w/o updating the server. Paid $20 to get screwed into single player only
#2936 [18:48] <zippity> I can't play on any of the servers and it looks like other people are playing on just about every one of them. The first time I click I get a "Failed to connect" msg and all other times I get a black screen.
#2937 [18:48] <zippity> I can't play on any of the servers and it looks like other people are playing on just about every one of them. The first time I click I get a "Failed to connect" msg and all other times I get a black screen.
#2938 [18:48] <aetherian> kealper: you?
#2939 [18:48] <SkiingPenguins> stop spamming
#2940 [18:48] <aetherian> aaahhh copying pasta ftl
#2941 [18:48] <zippity> srry double post
#2942 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> zippity: Have you tried reinstalling your client binaries rather than just spamming the channel?
#2943 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#2944 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> ^ do that ^
#2945 [18:48] <aetherian> zippity.
#2946 [18:48] <SkiingPenguins> or reinstall java if you wanna be sure
#2947 [18:49] <aetherian> what. OS.
#2948 [18:49] <zippity> X
#2949 [18:49] <NinjaKirby> lol
#2950 [18:49] <SkiingPenguins> yes im on using ZXR
#2951 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: perhaps using complete sentences would be more helpful.
#2952 [18:49] <aetherian> dopeghoti: I was simulating gritted teeth.
#2953 [18:49] <exp0> DopeGhoti I did everything short of reinstalling my OS
#2954 [18:49] <aetherian> then do that
#2955 [18:49] <NinjaKirby> lol! I love this channel
#2956 [18:49] <aetherian> !slap ninjakirby
#2957 [18:49] <aetherian> dernit
#2958 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> zippity: open Library/Application Support/minecraft
#2959 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> delete the bin folder
#2960 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> then re-run the client.
#2961 [18:50] <zippity> k... brb
#2962 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> zippity: that'll be the Library in your /Users/$YOU/ directory, not the System's library in /.
#2963 [18:51] <Kealper> Jackson413 is doing the most connections, but my autoit webserver is handing both attackers like a champ
#2964 [18:51] <zippity> what does 'rerun the client" mean?
#2965 [18:51] <exp0> means close it and open it
#2966 [18:51] <aetherian> lolmac
#2967 [18:51] <zippity> :P
#2968 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: meh. I'm only running one ab.
#2969 [18:52] <Kealper> lol
#2970 [18:52] <aetherian> p_o
#2971 [18:52] <aetherian> that is
#2972 [18:52] <Kealper> all it's doing is just filling up the ip table on my router
#2973 [18:52] <aetherian> a guy with those monoglasses
#2974 [18:52] <aetherian> things
#2975 [18:52] <aetherian> amajiggers
#2976 [18:52] <Jackson413> how is ur website holding up?
#2977 [18:53] <Kealper> the server is sitting at about 1% cpu usage, 13mb of ram....and has not slowed down at all
#2978 [18:53] <Jackson413> damn
#2979 [18:53] <zippity> connection still times out
#2980 [18:53] <Kealper> i guess you two can stop the attack now, and i should probably get back to helping in here again
#2981 [18:54] <zippity> ey my connection still times out what do I do?
#2982 [18:54] <Kealper> zippity: beta client?
#2983 [18:54] <zippity> yes
#2984 [18:54] <lemon-rev> how does one apply bone to plants so they grow stright away ?
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#2986 [18:55] <krebbit> hello
#2987 [18:55] <Kealper> zippity: try connecting to mc.kealper.com, to see if you can
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#2989 [18:55] <zippity> lemon-rev: you put bonemeal on the planted seeds
#2990 [18:55] <lemon-rev> oh you have to tansform the bone
#2991 [18:55] <lemon-rev> ?
#2992 [18:55] <lemon-rev> i see
#2993 [18:55] <krebbit> i recently bought a minecraft account but it says not premium. do i have to wait a week until the actual account works?
#2994 [18:55] <zippity> yeah
#2995 [18:56] <krebbit> oh
#2996 [18:56] <Kealper> not a week, but it could take up to a day for the payment to process
#2997 [18:56] <krebbit> alright thank you
#2998 [18:56] <lemon-rev> ihahahahhaha made the tree go balistic
#2999 [18:56] <lemon-rev> lol
#3000 [18:56] <zippity> lol
#3001 [18:56] <Kealper> zippity: did you try connecting?
#3002 [18:56] <krebbit> yes
#3003 [18:56] <zippity> ey are the Monecraft servers still migrating??
#3004 [18:57] <zippity> minecraft*
#3005 [18:57] <Kealper> sort of
#3006 [18:57] <zippity> but i see that there are people on ALL the time.
#3007 [18:57] <Kealper> the main website is back up on the new servers, but there ar still some things to be implemented
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#3009 [18:57] <zippity> but none of them connect and then I get a black screen
#3010 [18:58] <epic_the_wiggins> yeah the servers must still be migratign i cant change my skin yet
#3011 [18:58] <Kealper> Jackson413: you can stop LOIC now, it's painfully obvious that it is not even denting my webserver
#3012 [18:58] <zippity> does any1 know when they will stop migrating?
#3013 [18:58] <Jackson413> oh sorry i forgot to turn it off
#3014 [18:58] <Kealper> lol
#3015 [18:58] <Chris64> LOIC?
#3016 [18:58] <Kealper> if you have to ask, you don't need to know
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#3019 [18:59] <exp0> kealper your spawn point is messed up, it causes people to spaz out
#3020 [18:59] <zippity> ugh i wanna play online...
#3021 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: maybe you'd have better luck asking 4chan to DDoS you.
#3022 [19:01] <Kealper> yeah i'd fear for my internet's survival
#3023 [19:01] <exp0> 4chan is just a bunch of script kiddies and a few knowledgeable programmers.
#3024 [19:02] <Kealper> hi internet geeks :) <3 the neighbor girl :) Stephh
#3025 [19:03] <Kealper> that was NOT me.....lol
#3026 [19:03] <Kealper> keyboard got hijacked -.-
#3027 [19:03] <Kealper> anywho
#3028 [19:03] <Kealper> Jackson413: it's still going....you failed at stopping it lol
#3029 [19:04] <Jackson413> oh sorry forgot again
#3030 [19:04] <Jackson413> ok
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#3032 [19:04] <Jackson413> lol
#3033 [19:04] <Jackson413> so what does raising the threads do?
#3034 [19:05] <Jackson413> ?
#3035 [19:05] <Kealper> make more connections at once at the expense of raping your own computer a bit more
#3036 [19:05] <Jackson413> is 100 threads almost nothing?
#3037 [19:05] <Kealper> not really
#3038 [19:06] <Jackson413> oh....
#3039 [19:06] <Kealper> just means 100 open connections at once
#3040 [19:06] <Jackson413> can i give it another go?
#3041 [19:06] <Jackson413> only more connections?
#3042 [19:06] <Jackson413> like 10000ish?
#3043 [19:06] <Kealper> if you really want...but it won't take down my autoit webserver lol
#3044 [19:06] <Jackson413> hmmm
#3045 [19:06] <Jackson413> ill try
#3046 [19:06] <Kealper> doing 10k is going to fill up your router's active ip connection table though
#3047 [19:06] <Jackson413> i may have crashed the program
#3048 [19:07] <Kealper> at 500 connections so far
#3049 [19:07] <Jackson413> year it crashed
#3050 [19:07] <Kealper> dropping
#3051 [19:07] <Jackson413> ill try 1000
#3052 [19:08] <Jackson413> flooding
#3053 [19:08] <Jackson413> hows it going down there?
#3054 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> I ramped up ab 'till my kernel started complaining about running out of file handles, which was enough for me :)
#3055 [19:08] * DopeGhoti has been done with this cruft for a while now.
#3055 [19:08] <Jackson413> oh i think the program just crashed again
#3056 [19:09] <Jackson413> nm
#3057 [19:09] <Jackson413> hows it going kealper?
#3058 [19:09] <Kealper> 3% cpu usage, 12mb of ram
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#3060 [19:10] <Jackson413> this thing is being weird
#3061 [19:12] <Jackson413> hows it going now?
#3062 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> could we maybe move this to #DoS-Newbies?
#3063 [19:13] <Jackson413> screw it i give up lol
#3064 [19:14] <Jackson413> dope
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#3066 [19:14] <Jackson413> can u offer me some opinion?
#3067 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> I was just starting to assist there, for some reason my LOIC cancelled out to repeated failure after a short while
#3068 [19:15] <x2robbie2x> are all the servers on the server list on the website classic servers?
#3069 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> Robbie, I think they are a mix? Depending on how people have designed their servers, I imagine there are hybrids and all sorts
#3070 [19:17] <NinjaKirby> All I've ended up on are Classic-esque servers, but I haven't tried more then 5 from the list
#3071 [19:17] <x2robbie2x> I'm looking for a SMP server and I can't find one :(
#3072 [19:18] <NinjaKirby> For some reason I'm thinking there's an IRC channel for this stuff, I could be mistaken though
#3073 [19:19] <NinjaKirby> But I can't find anything with /list :/
#3074 [19:19] <NinjaKirby> Why's it suddenly died in here XD
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#3077 [19:21] <aetherian> back'
#3078 [19:21] <x2robbie2x> Also, is there a way to find the IP of a server on the browser? Whenever I try to open up the game in the browser I get a white screen, but whenever I do it in the client it works fine
#3079 [19:21] <aetherian> it's because I left
#3080 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> lol, aye Aetherian XD
#3081 [19:21] <aetherian> wait wrong chan
#3082 [19:21] <aetherian> works here though
#3083 [19:21] <aetherian> disregard that
#3084 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> It still seems... yeah, applicable :P
#3085 [19:21] <aetherian> I said it here
#3086 [19:22] <aetherian> kealper, we need a website that monitors this channel, like
#3087 [19:22] <aetherian> ah
#3088 [19:22] <aetherian> common emoticons, people talking to themselves, most frequent chatter, etc
#3089 [19:22] <aetherian> *chatters
#3090 [19:23] <aetherian> make it nao.
#3091 [19:23] <aetherian> so how did the attack go?
#3092 [19:23] <exp0> I think I found the malformed input
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#3094 [19:24] <exp0> Kealper in 1.2_02 whenever I connect to my local server, it says player is null then player is now null
#3095 [19:25] <exp0> or not
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#3101 [19:31] <Thetyler95> Hello I need some help
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#3103 [19:31] <Thetyler95> Everytime I try to login It gives me a servlet error
#3104 [19:32] <Thetyler95> and something about no free connections
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#3106 [19:32] <Thetyler95> does anyone know how to fix this?
#3107 [19:33] <Thetyler95> Everytime I try to login It gives me a servlet error and something about no free connections?
#3108 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> Thetyler95: I know there are some intermittent issues with authenticating, but usually reattempting the connection one or thrice seems to resolve it.
#3109 [19:34] <Thetyler95> Ive tried atleast 5 times
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#3111 [19:37] <aetherian> try moar
#3112 [19:37] <aetherian> note: moar is pronounced mower, like lawn mower.
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#3119 [19:44] <fut> hi i am french
#3120 [19:44] <Kealper> i am Kealper :P
#3121 [19:45] <NinjaKirby> Bonsoir up in dis
#3122 [19:45] <fut> do you speak french please
#3123 [19:46] <Kealper> i do not :(
#3124 [19:46] <NinjaKirby> Neither I T_T
#3125 [19:46] <fut> I can not register on minecraft
#3126 [19:46] <fut> help me please
#3127 [19:46] <Kealper> what error does it say?
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#3129 [19:47] <fut> 502
#3130 [19:47] <Kealper> clear your browser cache
#3131 [19:47] <fut> 500 Servlet Exception
#3132 [19:47] <fut> excuse me
#3133 [19:48] <fut> ok kealper thanks you
#3134 [19:49] <aetherian> je ne pas compris
#3135 [19:49] <aetherian> I probs got that wrong anyway
#3136 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> Clear cache de votre navigateur de fichiers temporaires?
#3137 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> Jay Nay Par Less Paws Frank Ace.
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#3139 [19:50] <Kealper> 19:48:27 -!- fut [Mibbit@93.21.16.81] has quit [Quit: Client Exited]
#3140 [19:51] <aetherian> har har
#3141 [19:51] <aetherian> je n'ais pas parle francais
#3142 [19:51] <aetherian> I thought
#3143 [19:51] <aetherian> or
#3144 [19:51] <aetherian> je ne pas
#3145 [19:51] <aetherian> or j'ai ne pas
#3146 [19:51] <aetherian> dunno
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#3148 [19:52] <Intel_iX> I have a strange problem.
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#3150 [19:52] <Intel_iX> I turned invincible, and I'm not using any mods.
#3151 [19:53] <Intel_iX> I can even walk around in lava.
#3152 [19:53] <aetherian> irl?
#3153 [19:53] <Intel_iX> Anyone know how to fix it?
#3154 [19:56] <LordEddi> Intel_iX: Relog.
#3155 [19:56] <LordEddi> and aetherian; xD
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#3157 [19:57] <x2robbie2x> Where can I find an ip of a smp server I could play?
#3158 [19:57] <LordEddi> www.google.com
#3159 [19:57] <Gando> x2robbie2x, http://servers.minecraftforum.net/
#3160 [19:58] <LordEddi> Hm, should see if I find some mods my players will like.
#3161 [19:58] <LordEddi> But too lazy. :(
#3162 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: je n'cest pas, since you were wondering.
#3163 [20:02] <aetherian> that's not it
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#3167 [20:07] <epic_the_wiggins> are the servers still i nmigration
#3168 [20:08] <aetherian> ack
#3169 [20:08] <aetherian> big name is big
#3170 [20:08] <epic_the_wiggins> :D
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#3172 [20:21] <aetherian> it's like, everytime you talk, you spam
#3173 [20:21] <aetherian> oh
#3174 [20:21] <aetherian> ya left
#3175 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Pot, kettle, black?
#3176 [20:25] <aetherian> ya know how sometimes chunks will fail and it will be water... CLIFF FACE
#3177 [20:25] <aetherian> well uh
#3178 [20:25] <aetherian> that'd be awesome if there was an ocean type thing like that in a mountain
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#3181 [20:32] <cubs197> Hello?
#3182 [20:33] <NinjaKirby> derp
#3183 [20:33] <cubs197> xales: I got my mindcraft to work in the browser.
#3184 [20:34] <cubs197> oh, nevermind
#3185 [20:34] <NinjaKirby> Neurological Crafting
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#3187 [20:35] <aetherian> derpcraft: the game all creepers are playing
#3188 [20:35] <cubs197> I got a question for multiplayer. What do you do to join in a multiplayer match? It wants some kind of IP?
#3189 [20:35] <aetherian> yeah
#3190 [20:35] <aetherian> give it the ip
#3191 [20:35] <cubs197> My IP?
#3192 [20:35] <aetherian> no
#3193 [20:35] <aetherian> the ip of the server
#3194 [20:35] <cubs197> I no no IP other than my own.
#3195 [20:36] <aetherian> omigod
#3196 [20:36] <aetherian> even I can't help you
#3197 [20:36] <cubs197> I'm sorry
#3198 [20:36] <cubs197> Wow, nice people u got here
#3199 [20:36] <NinjaKirby> Apparently you can just use a Domain Name, if you know that and the port number
#3200 [20:36] <Coll> cubs
#3201 [20:36] <Coll> it is called google
#3202 [20:36] <Coll> ip of miencraft servers
#3203 [20:36] <Coll> done
#3204 [20:38] <cubs197> Which would I choose. I mean, there are hundreds.
#3205 [20:38] <Coll> w/e
#3206 [20:38] <aetherian> go to #smp
#3207 [20:38] <Coll> it doesnt really matter
#3208 [20:38] <aetherian> and look at topic
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#3210 [20:39] <cubs197> yeah, I already got the list
#3211 [20:39] <cubs197> Well, ok thanks
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#3214 [20:42] <cubs197> I just tried to join a server and it said "Not on whitelist". What's that mean?
#3215 [20:43] <Kealper> LOL
#3216 [20:43] <Kealper> i was like "man this rpg game is awesome!" out loud
#3217 [20:44] <cubs197> Kealper: can u help me?
#3218 [20:44] <NinjaKirby> Whitelist is apparently a list of users defined by the Server Admin, who are allowed to connect
#3219 [20:44] <Kealper> and my dad just yelled from the other end of the house "Did they bring out another Half-Life yet?!"
#3220 [20:44] <NinjaKirby> So it's a private server, you'd need to be manually added, or something of the sort
#3221 [20:44] <NinjaKirby> So ya, the reverse of a blacklist, heh
#3222 [20:45] <cubs197> heh, yeah
#3223 [20:45] <cubs197> kk
#3224 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: which RPG?
#3225 [20:45] <Kealper> this new one that's in closed beta called RIFT
#3226 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> Also, Ep 3 is the new Duke Nukem Whenever
#3227 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> ah
#3228 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> more of an MMO, no?
#3229 [20:45] <Kealper> it's a WoW clone, but it does it in a good way
#3230 [20:45] <Kealper> yeah, mmorpg
#3231 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> Ugh, I just got sucked back into MMOland
#3232 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> Damn the Minecraft servers for going down and letting me hear about CoV again
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#3236 [20:57] <Rohypnol> Anyone having server issues tonight?
#3237 [20:58] <cubs197> yeah, I can't find one to join
#3238 [20:58] <cubs197> :P
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#3246 [21:07] <aetherian> but where
#3247 [21:07] <aetherian> where do they make balloooonss...
#3248 [21:07] <ACsiD> ballons ?
#3249 [21:08] <aetherian> it's a song from an album I used to listen to as a kid
#3250 [21:08] <aetherian> a young kid, that is.
#3251 [21:08] <aetherian> err, a young/er/ kid, that is.
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#3253 [21:08] <aetherian> by they might be giants
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#3255 [21:22] <aetherian> !help
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#3257 [21:22] <NinjaKirby> I thought he did Ping as well, I guess the list isn't exhaustive?
#3258 [21:22] <NinjaKirby> *He, being It, I suppose
#3259 [21:23] <NinjaKirby> Whatever, bed time for me
#3260 [21:24] <aetherian> that's grey
#3261 [21:24] <aetherian> look
#3262 [21:24] <aetherian> !ping
#3263 [21:24] <aetherian> damn he's not on
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#3265 [21:25] <Frinkeldoodle> Hi everyone
#3266 [21:25] <aetherian> bye
#3267 [21:25] <aetherian> now.
#3268 [21:26] <Frinkeldoodle> ...
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#3270 [21:29] <aetherian> it worked!
#3271 [21:30] <aetherian> I'm just waiting for someone to do a minecraft rendition of an entire state/country/city
#3272 [21:30] <aetherian> like, for city, down to the building
#3273 [21:35] <aetherian> oh my
#3274 [21:35] <aetherian> wouldn't it be amazing
#3275 [21:35] <aetherian> to live in an exact replica of your town
#3276 [21:35] <aetherian> in minecraft
#3277 [21:35] <Gando> i'd totally set my college on fire
#3278 [21:37] <aetherian> haha
#3279 [21:38] <genshou> I don't think some modern buildings would scale well :s
#3280 [21:38] <aetherian> genshou: then make everything huge
#3281 [21:38] <aetherian> but just think in theory
#3282 [21:38] <aetherian> that'd be bloody awesome
#3283 [21:38] <genshou> sort of
#3284 [21:39] <aetherian> I'd kill the next door neighbours dog
#3285 [21:39] <genshou> I would rather see awesome castles and such
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#3287 [21:39] <aetherian> oooh
#3288 [21:39] <aetherian> I want a minecraft switzerland >:O
#3289 [21:39] <genshou> too much variable terrain.
#3290 [21:39] <aetherian> what do you mena?
#3291 [21:39] <genshou> Switzerland tends to go pretty high above sea level :P
#3292 [21:39] <aetherian> *mena
#3293 [21:39] <aetherian> *mean
#3294 [21:40] <aetherian> so?
#3295 [21:40] <aetherian> start at right above bedrock :O
#3296 [21:40] <aetherian> and besides
#3297 [21:40] <genshou> It goes a lot higher than 128m xD
#3298 [21:40] <genshou> you would have to scale mountains down
#3299 [21:40] <aetherian> I'm talking in theory, it's not as if anyone could actually do anything like this
#3300 [21:40] <aetherian> >.>
#3301 [21:40] <Gando> hm
#3302 [21:40] <genshou> in theory I'd like to do a lot of things in MC :3
#3303 [21:40] <aetherian> "Minecraft!" "That's technically impossible in the real world"
#3304 [21:40] <aetherian> that's what this conversation has been
#3305 [21:41] <aetherian> me first then you
#3306 [21:41] <aetherian> !wiki pessimist
#3307 [21:41] <aetherian> aww
#3308 [21:41] <Gando> you seen that Reddit post of the grandmother who built a pretty good replica of Pittsburgh, I think
#3309 [21:41] <aetherian> no
#3310 [21:41] <aetherian> I have not
#3311 [21:41] <Gando> hold on, lemme see if I can find it
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#3313 [21:42] <acrocycle> Just purchased minecraft!
#3314 [21:42] <aetherian> yay :D
#3315 [21:42] <xolotl> aetherian: enjoy!
#3316 [21:42] <acrocycle> ye!!!
#3317 [21:43] <aetherian> what, xolotl?
#3318 [21:43] <aetherian> lolfail?
#3319 [21:43] <acrocycle> I will... I just started a server to play around on. What port does the server work on?
#3320 [21:43] <xolotl> um
#3321 [21:43] <xolotl> aetherian: Yeah, er, disregard that
#3322 [21:43] <xolotl> :)
#3323 [21:43] <xolotl> acrocycle: TCP 25565
#3324 [21:43] <acrocycle> gracias
#3325 [21:43] <xales> So...Windows people
#3326 [21:43] <xolotl> acrocycle: (or whatever port you specify)
#3327 [21:43] <aetherian> epicke faile
#3328 [21:43] <Gando> hey, aetherian, http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/f7jzq/im_a_grandma_and_i_love_reddit_and_minecraft/
#3329 [21:43] <aetherian> yes, xales?
#3330 [21:43] <xales> how2driveletternochangewhenpartitionmove
#3331 [21:44] <acrocycle> How do I specify a port?
#3332 [21:44] <Gando> how2spacebar
#3333 [21:44] <Gando> I believe that you open server.properties and change the port option
#3334 [21:44] <xolotl> acrocycle: If you're running a server, it's in server.properties
#3335 [21:44] <xolotl> acrocycle: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
#3336 [21:45] <acrocycle> ah cool... didn't know there was a wiki. How convenient.
#3337 [21:45] <acrocycle> thank you xolotl
#3338 [21:45] <xolotl> acrocycle: Or, if you're trying to connect to someone else whose server is on a nonstandard port, you'd use "<ip-or-hostname>:<port>"
#3339 [21:45] <xales> In English, on HDD 1 (as in, second) I have 4 partitions, which are {big ntfs partition}, {ext2 boot}, {linux swap}, {ext3 root}
#3340 [21:45] <xolotl> acrocycle: Yes, the wiki is Much Good.
#3341 [21:45] * aetherian is away: may be back
#3341 [21:45] <xales> GRUB doesn't like boot being that far into the drive...
#3342 [21:45] <Gando> hm.
#3343 [21:45] <xales> so I need to shrink the NTFS volume
#3344 [21:45] <xales> but aparrantly that may make the drive letter that Windows sees change
#3345 [21:46] <xales> anyone know a solution?
#3346 [21:46] <Gando> shrink the NTFS partition
#3347 [21:46] <Gando> uh
#3348 [21:46] <Gando> I believe that there's a solution in the Administrative Tools section of the control panel
#3349 [21:47] <Gando> hold on, what version of windows are you using?
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#3351 [21:47] <xales> I hope so, problem is, I don't want to A: format said volume, B: if at all possible, do it without booting Windows
#3352 [21:47] <acrocycle> great... I get this: java.net.SocketException: Network is unreachable
#3353 [21:47] <xales> as some startup stuff loads from that partition
#3354 [21:47] <xales> Windows XP
#3355 [21:47] <Gando> gparted?
#3356 [21:47] <xales> yeah
#3357 [21:47] <Gando> i've heard that it's pretty good
#3358 [21:47] <xales> acrocycle: Is this on your client?
#3359 [21:48] <xales> Gando: It doesn't matter how good it is, its still moving the partition, which windows doesn't like :(
#3360 [21:48] <Gando> hmmmm
#3361 [21:48] <acrocycle> No, I just started the server and that is what I get.
#3362 [21:48] <acrocycle> *** 20:47:43 Failed to assemble heartbeat: java.net.SocketException: Network is unreachable
#3363 [21:48] <acrocycle> It is a Debian Server with sun-jdk installed.
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#3365 [21:49] <xales> acrocycle: This is a VPS?
#3366 [21:49] <acrocycle> Nope, a server running in my home.
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#3368 [21:50] <acrocycle> It is DMZ
#3369 [21:50] <acrocycle> on my network
#3370 [21:50] <Gando> what linux distro are you using, xales?
#3371 [21:51] <xales> acrocycle: Can you reach minecraft.net from other computers on your network?
#3372 [21:51] <acrocycle> Maybe I should read the wiki.
#3373 [21:52] <xales> Gando: Arch
#3374 [21:52] <acrocycle> xales: let me check
#3375 [21:53] <acrocycle> Yes, I just used the browser to get to it.
#3376 [21:54] <Gando> arch... i'm kinda' unexperienced with that, my only real experience w/ linux is ubuntu, fedora, and backtrack4.
#3377 [21:55] <xales> Gando: The problem isn't as much with anything distro-related, just getting Windows to not suck with everything
#3378 [21:55] <Gando> >windows
#3379 [21:55] <Gando> >not suck
#3380 [21:55] <Gando> Pick one, mate.
#3381 [21:55] <xales> I know :(
#3382 [21:56] <Gando> Only reason I use the damn thing is because it's the only OS that runs Source engine games reliably.
#3383 [21:57] <xales> Same for me, I only use it on my desktop
#3384 [21:57] <xales> and I've gotten a bit tired of the Steam games i've been playing, and everything else runs just fine/better under *nix
#3385 [21:58] <Gando> what Steam games do you do?
#3386 [21:58] <SkiingPenguins> garrys mod is kinda fun
#3387 [21:58] <Gando> yes.
#3388 [21:58] <xolotl> Gando: Source engine games tend to work great in Crossover Games btw, though that does cost $
#3389 [21:58] <Gando> gmod. all the way.
#3390 [21:58] <xales> Mostly Team Fortress 2, and some steam-published non-valve games occasionally
#3391 [21:59] <Gando> TF2, eh. I never really got into that.
#3392 [21:59] <Gando> ANYWAYS, back to the problem at hand. Shrinking a partition in Arch, right?
#3393 [22:00] <xales> Nope, shrinking using gparted (I can't get arch to boot, GRUB refuses to install)
#3394 [22:00] <xales> gparted on livecd
#3395 [22:00] <Gando> Alrighty then.
#3396 [22:01] <xales> only issue is trying to prevent the assigned drive letter from changing, and there is a way to change it back that I found, but I'm afraid Windows won't boot in the first place if it does change
#3397 [22:01] <Gando> do you have a bootable CD/DVD of Windows?
#3398 [22:01] <xales> not one with recovery stuff on it
#3399 [22:02] <Gando> do you have a nearby 8+gb USB drive?
#3400 [22:03] <xolotl> xales: I bet Ultimate Boot CD would have something to change the drive letter *back* once it gets changed; perhaps that would alleviate the problem
#3401 [22:03] <xales> yes
#3402 [22:03] <xales> xolotl: Drive letters are stored in some ninja magic registry key
#3403 [22:03] <xales> if it can mount registry hives, I know how to manually edit it
#3404 [22:03] <xolotl> xales: Still, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was something on there that could do it
#3405 [22:03] <Gando> dammit, I can't seem to find any guides on the interbutts that don't involve formatting
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#3407 [22:05] <xales> Gando: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307844 and http://gparted.org/faq.php#faq-18 =/
#3408 [22:05] <xales> GOTTA LOVE THEM MIBBIT PEOPLE D:
#3409 [22:05] * xales writes script to count mibbits
#3409 [22:05] <acrocycle> ..
#3410 [22:05] * Gando would rather not know how many lost souls are using mibbit
#3410 [22:06] <acrocycle> hmm. for some reason I can load minecraft.net but ping does not ping it!
#3411 [22:06] <xales> acrocycle: They are blocking pings now, I can't ping it either
#3412 [22:06] * xales pokes mollstam
#3412 [22:06] <acrocycle> ah ic
#3413 [22:06] * xales strongly dislikes timezones
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#3414 [22:08] <Gando> heh, it's 4 AM in sweden
#3415 [22:10] <acrocycle> so any ideas on what to do about this message?
#3416 [22:10] <acrocycle> *** 21:09:06 Failed to assemble heartbeat: java.net.SocketException: Network is unreachable
#3417 [22:10] <Gando> no idea
#3418 [22:10] <xales> acrocycle: Do a trace to minecraft.net on the server
#3419 [22:11] <acrocycle> giving it a shot....
#3420 [22:11] <Gando> huh, right as i was running a tracert to minecraft.net
#3421 [22:11] <SkiingPenguins> and use pastebin if there is a bunch of stuff :D
#3422 [22:12] <Gando> damn, timed out on the 16th hop
#3423 [22:12] <xales> yeah, it does that for me as well, times out when it reaches AWS
#3424 [22:13] <Gando> hold on
#3425 [22:13] <acrocycle> a lot of servers to get through
#3426 [22:13] <Gando> 16th, 17th, 18th hops time out on me
#3427 [22:13] <Gando> then 19-22 work
#3428 [22:14] <acrocycle> weird... on 13-30 I get ***
#3429 [22:14] <acrocycle> does that mean a timeout?
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#3431 [22:14] <Gando> i believe so
#3432 [22:14] <acrocycle> k
#3433 [22:15] <xales> acrocycle: What is the hop before it times out?
#3434 [22:16] <acrocycle> 30
#3435 [22:16] <acrocycle> wait... that is max hops
#3436 [22:16] <acrocycle> sorry
#3437 [22:16] <acrocycle> 12 was the last good one...
#3438 [22:16] <acrocycle> 72.21.222.155
#3439 [22:16] <acrocycle> that's the ip
#3440 [22:17] <acrocycle> an amazon server according to whois
#3441 [22:17] <Gando> amazon's load balancer, probably
#3442 [22:17] <acrocycle> ic
#3443 [22:18] <acrocycle> let me login to a remote server to try tracing
#3444 [22:18] <acrocycle> I just tried one of those crappy sites with network tools and it timed out on 8
#3445 [22:19] <acrocycle> on the remote server, it times out at 10
#3446 [22:20] <acrocycle> server = xe-0-1-0.was14.ip4.tinet.net
#3447 [22:20] <xales> it times out there on the server?
#3448 [22:21] <acrocycle> Nope made it to 11 so far
#3449 [22:21] <acrocycle> now 12... slow though
#3450 [22:21] <acrocycle> 13 times out
#3451 [22:21] <xales> what is 12?
#3452 [22:21] <acrocycle> all the way to 30 again
#3453 [22:22] <acrocycle> 72.21.222.155 again
#3454 [22:22] <Diablothein> Cigar, but no close.
#3455 [22:22] <Gando> Mentlegen.
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#3458 [22:24] <Fantleas> Hey
#3459 [22:25] <Fantleas> Is the problem with Creative servers fixed? :o
#3460 [22:25] <xales> there was a problem?
#3461 [22:25] <Fantleas> Well, I could not connect to my server.
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#3463 [22:26] <Fantleas> It gives me no errors but a URL.
#3464 [22:26] <Fantleas> I go there and it just starts a SP game.
#3465 [22:26] <xales> That may be a problem with your server, I don't think anyone else has the issue
#3466 [22:26] <Fantleas> Do you have any ideas of what the problem could be?
#3467 [22:27] <Fantleas> Beta Server works just fine.
#3468 [22:27] <Fantleas> It's running right now actually.
#3469 [22:27] <xales> Were you trying to run classic and beta at the same time?
#3470 [22:27] <Fantleas> Not at first.
#3471 [22:27] <acrocycle> Does it make a difference that I do not have a GUI on the server I am using to run my minecraft server?
#3472 [22:27] <Fantleas> doesn't work either way
#3473 [22:28] <xales> acrocycle: Nope, you shouldn't ever have a GUI on a server
#3474 [22:28] <xales> EVER
#3475 [22:28] <xales> try changing DNS settings and flushing the resolver cache
#3476 [22:29] <Fantleas> Me?
#3477 [22:29] <acrocycle> xales: wasn't sure if the minecraft server was expecting a GUI to be installed. Thanks
#3478 [22:30] <xales> Fantleas: nope
#3479 [22:30] <xales> Fantleas: Try changing the port the classic server is using
#3480 [22:30] <acrocycle> be back going to flush dns
#3481 [22:30] <Fantleas> Okay.
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#3483 [22:32] <tommytrauma> i have a question about smp, i have the game payed and down loaded and i play one player survival but when i go to multiplayer it asks me for the IP adress but in the forums no one seems to tlk about an ip but they do talk about smp. where can iget an IP
#3484 [22:33] <xales> tommytrauma: http://minestatus.net/ or http://mcserverlist.net/
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#3486 [22:33] <tommytrauma> thank you very much xales
#3487 [22:40] <acrocycle> xales: I changed my DNS from openDNS servers to my normal ISP servers and still get themessage
#3488 [22:40] <acrocycle> I have set my server to private. Not sure if that makes a difference.
#3489 [22:40] <acrocycle> Public=false
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#3491 [22:41] <acrocycle> Still timing out on 13 and 12 is the same IP
#3492 [22:42] <onix> Is there anyway to buy minecraft with a visa gift card?
#3493 [22:42] <acrocycle> Use it as a normal credit card
#3494 [22:43] <onix> Don't have one sadly. =(
#3495 [22:43] <acrocycle> You don't have a visa gift card?
#3496 [22:44] <acrocycle> A visa giftcard is a vis (or a credit card)
#3497 [22:44] <onix> I do but when I put in the card numbers it saids This card is ineligible for 3-D Secure payments.
#3498 [22:45] <acrocycle> If you called customer service at Minecraft (thought I saw the mention of customer service in the checkout process) they may be able to run it manually.
#3499 [22:46] <onix> It tells me ID: 109257797 What do I do from there?
#3500 [22:48] <acrocycle> I would email payment@mojang.com I cannot find a phone number.
#3501 [22:48] <acrocycle> Include that ID, probably.
#3502 [22:48] <onix> Where do I go to send the email?
#3503 [22:48] <acrocycle> Goto your email account.
#3504 [22:48] <acrocycle> or email client
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#3506 [22:49] <acrocycle> just copy and paste that email into the address... you probably won't be able to open it through the link in this window
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#3508 [22:51] <aetherian> loevely
#3509 [22:51] <aetherian> connected by ethernet now
#3510 [22:52] <aetherian> *lovely
#3511 [22:53] <onix> So I send an email to payment@ mojang right? Tell them about my problem and put the Id number?
#3512 [22:54] <acrocycle> Yes... the email address is payment@mojang.com
#3513 [22:56] <onix> Okay thanks =) How long does it take to get a reply?
#3514 [22:56] <acrocycle> Not sure, I just purchased the game today.
#3515 [22:56] <aetherian> attack launched
#3516 [22:57] <acrocycle> Anyone else having trouble with their server starting up?
#3517 [22:57] <aetherian> no?
#3518 [22:57] <onix> Okay hopefully they let me get it with a giftcard. The game is so beast.
#3519 [22:57] <acrocycle> Dang!
#3520 [22:58] <acrocycle> This is making me mad!
#3521 [22:58] <acrocycle> it so simple but wont' work
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#3523 [23:00] <aetherian> I just figured out how to make other people in the house lose internet :D
#3524 [23:00] <aetherian> ftw :D
#3525 [23:00] <Gando> quite simple, i believe
#3526 [23:00] <acrocycle> unplug the router?
#3527 [23:00] <aetherian> nonono
#3528 [23:00] <aetherian> then I'd get in trouble
#3529 [23:00] <Gando> lol.
#3530 [23:01] <aetherian> quite very much so trouble
#3531 [23:01] <aetherian> just ping the router repeatedly with... something... and my dad lost connection
#3532 [23:01] <aetherian> like, ping something whilst plugged into the router like with ethernet or summat
#3533 [23:01] <Gando> LOIC -> 192.168.0.1
#3534 [23:02] <aetherian> not what I had planned on...
#3535 [23:02] <aetherian> oh well
#3536 [23:02] <aetherian> basically, I think when I ping a website, it pings my router, even with ethernet (yes yes, I know, I'm clueless as to how these things work)
#3537 [23:03] <aetherian> darn, I wanted to... eh...
#3538 [23:03] <aetherian> yeah
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#3540 [23:03] <aetherian> omigodmyears
#3541 [23:03] <aetherian> itburns
#3542 [23:03] <aetherian> somuchimagoplayagamenow
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#3544 [23:03] <aetherian> havefunaddinginspacestotheprevioustwosentencesguys
#3545 [23:05] <Gando> damnit!
#3546 [23:05] <acrocycle> aetherian: yeah, I used to do that to guys who were playig rainbow six online. If they made me mad I would ping the heck out of them with huge packets... then you'd see the room of payers leave the game.
#3547 [23:05] <acrocycle> hehe
#3548 [23:06] <acrocycle> Well I cannot get minecraft to work
#3549 [23:06] <acrocycle> I need to try on my new computer.
#3550 [23:06] <acrocycle> The server should start though... what the heck
#3551 [23:07] <Gando> try harder
#3552 [23:08] <acrocycle> still trying
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#3557 [23:16] <aetherian> ah, LOIC, what would trolling be like without you...
#3558 [23:16] <aetherian> after all
#3559 [23:16] <aetherian> trolling starts at home
#3560 [23:17] <aetherian> or was that charity...
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#3562 [23:17] <Gando> ha
#3563 [23:18] <Gando> i'm so bored
#3564 [23:18] <mib_l30rni> ?
#3565 [23:18] <Gando> nothing to do
#3566 [23:18] <Gando> no one to mess with on Steam
#3567 [23:18] <mib_l30rni> lol
#3568 [23:18] <mib_l30rni> ?
#3569 [23:18] <mib_l30rni> whats steam?
#3570 [23:18] <aetherian> lol?
#3571 [23:18] <aetherian> that a joke?
#3572 [23:18] <AG_Elias> It's a gas.
#3573 [23:18] <AG_Elias> aetherian: Troll alert. Warning. Warning.
#3574 [23:18] <mib_l30rni> -.- duh
#3575 [23:19] <aetherian> oh my bad
#3576 [23:19] <Gando> i'm not so sure 'bout that, AG_Elias
#3577 [23:19] <Gando> it's a mibbit user
#3578 [23:19] <aetherian> forgot about the people with...youknow...
#3579 [23:19] <aetherian> heads full of hot air
#3580 [23:19] <Gando> pssssssssssss
#3581 [23:19] <Gando> aetherian, do you have a Steam acct?
#3582 [23:19] <AG_Elias> mib_l30rni, http://bit.ly/aCWbpB
#3583 [23:20] <aetherian> gando: actually I only made one today... been meaning to for a while :3
#3584 [23:20] <aetherian> haven't had a need to really
#3585 [23:20] <Gando> ;o
#3586 [23:20] * aetherian is the epic hypocrite
#3586 [23:20] <aetherian> just booted up steam
#3587 [23:21] <AG_Elias> aetherian, add me. :3
#3588 [23:22] <Gando> dayum
#3589 [23:22] <Gando> at max volume, these headphones sound like speakers
#3590 [23:22] <netherian> ag: not now.
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#3593 [23:26] <Neskuaxa> Hello
#3594 [23:26] <Neskuaxa> Does anybody know how to get Minecraft working in Ubuntu?
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#3596 [23:27] <Kxania> hi
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#3598 [23:28] <Kxania> Hi.
#3599 [23:28] <Gando> Well, first of all, Neskuaxa, you have to set the value of magnets to 9001.
#3600 [23:28] <acrocycle> Got the server going... I just deleted everything and did wget again.
#3601 [23:28] <Mentalslug> Hey, can anyone please tell me how much time it takes from you you buy the game till you can actually play?
#3602 [23:28] <acrocycle> Now for connecting with my client!
#3603 [23:28] <Gando> @ Mentalslug, about 15~ minutes, I believe.
#3604 [23:28] <Mentalslug> mmk thanks
#3605 [23:29] <Neskuaxa> Over 9000?
#3606 [23:30] <netherian> :O
#3607 [23:30] <Neskuaxa> :O
#3608 [23:30] <Gando> Indeed.
#3609 [23:30] <Neskuaxa> Cant tell if I'm being trolled or not >.<
#3610 [23:30] <Gando> also, sudo apt-get install miracles magnets how-they-work
#3611 [23:31] <Neskuaxa> got it working
#3612 [23:31] <Neskuaxa> went to synaptic package manage and installed JRE
#3613 [23:32] <Gando> I'll be damned.
#3614 [23:35] <Kxania> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to set up a server, but no one is able to connect, and I believe I have done everything correctly, as you can see here:
#3615 [23:35] <Kxania> http://img715.imageshack.us/i/networkqh.jpg/
#3616 [23:36] <acrocycle> Did you setup port triggering?
#3617 [23:36] <acrocycle> or forward ports?
#3618 [23:36] <Kxania> Look at the image.
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#3620 [23:36] <Gando> tl;dr
#3621 [23:36] <Gando> I kid.
#3622 [23:37] <bletch> whats the deal with the server migration
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#3624 [23:37] <acrocycle> I am having problems connecting to a server in my own home on the same network
#3625 [23:39] <Gando> hm.
#3626 [23:39] <bletch> any idea when the server is gona be done migrating?
#3627 [23:40] <acrocycle> Kxania: do you have TCP and UDP forwarded? I would give that a try
#3628 [23:40] <Kxania> I set it as tcp&upd, and it automatically changes back to TCP.
#3629 [23:40] <Kxania> Plus i heard, that mc server(s) only run on tcp
#3630 [23:42] <acrocycle> odd
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#3632 [23:42] <Neskuaxa> Kxania Try using Hamachi and having your freinds that want to join use that
#3633 [23:42] <acrocycle> I just started using minecraft today so I am pretty new at this
#3634 [23:42] <Neskuaxa> welcome then
#3635 [23:44] <Kxania1> Hamachi?
#3636 [23:45] <Kxania> what is Hamachi?
#3637 [23:46] <Kxania> Well,
#3638 [23:46] <Kxania> What does it do?
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#3641 [23:50] <Kxania> Neskuaxa
#3642 [23:50] <acrocycle> Do I need to run the server as root? Doesn't seem like a good idea but... who knows
#3643 [23:51] <loft> acrocycle its never recommend to run applications as root. I would create a user and chown it to that
#3644 [23:51] <acrocycle> Not sure why the ports arn't working.
#3645 [23:51] <acrocycle> cannot figure this out... it's probably some stupid networking problem.
#3646 [23:52] <loft> what are you running it on ?
#3647 [23:52] <loft> home pc , vps , dedicated?
#3648 [23:52] <acrocycle> Debian
#3649 [23:52] <acrocycle> dedicated server in my home
#3650 [23:52] <Gando> ask on /g/
#3651 [23:52] <xolotl> acrocycle: On the box running the server, do a "netstat -tln | grep 25565", that'll let you know if it's actually bound
#3652 [23:53] <xolotl> May have to run that command as root (but yeah, there's no reason to run the minecraft server itself as root)
#3653 [23:53] <acrocycle> nope
#3654 [23:53] <acrocycle> let me try as sudo
#3655 [23:54] <acrocycle> no go
#3656 [23:54] <xolotl> How so
#3657 [23:54] <acrocycle> It wasn't listed
#3658 [23:54] <Neskuaxa> sorry was playing Minecraft
#3659 [23:54] <xolotl> Be descriptive when describing problems on Linux; stuff like "doesn't work" is rarely useful. :) So by "not listed" you mean that there was no output, yeah?
#3660 [23:54] <Neskuaxa> here it basically emulates a LAN in the internet
#3661 [23:54] <acrocycle> The port was not listed
#3662 [23:54] <xolotl> Does the server say that it's running?
#3663 [23:54] <acrocycle> not in use
#3664 [23:54] <Kxania> oh, k.
#3665 [23:55] <Kxania> So what do I do with it?
#3666 [23:55] <acrocycle> The server is running
#3667 [23:55] <Gando> install gentoo
#3668 [23:55] <acrocycle> wrong screen though... too many screens
#3669 [23:55] <xolotl> acrocycle: In the startup messages you should see something like "2011-01-23 09:12:14 [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on *:25565" - do you have that line? If it's different, what does it say?
#3670 [23:56] <acrocycle> here is the output
#3671 [23:56] <acrocycle> tcp6 0 0 :::25565 :::* LISTEN
#3672 [23:56] <xolotl> Oh
#3673 [23:56] <xolotl> So yeah, it's listening on that port
#3674 [23:56] <xolotl> What made you say it wasn't listed?
#3675 [23:56] <acrocycle> like I said above... too many screens open... i was running netstat on the wrong machine
#3676 [23:57] <xolotl> oh, okay
#3677 [23:57] <acrocycle> closed it now... forgot I had it open
#3678 [23:57] <xolotl> No worries; so *can* you connect locally?
#3679 [23:58] <acrocycle> yes, I am remotely connected to the machine on my own network
#3680 [23:58] <acrocycle> but not through the game client
#3681 [23:58] <xolotl> I meant with Minecraft. :)
#3682 [23:58] <xolotl> k
#3683 [23:58] <xolotl> Out of curiosity, use a pastebin to show us the contents of "iptables -L -v -n" on the box running minecraft
#3684 [23:58] <acrocycle> I get "connection refused
#3685 [23:58] <xolotl> Probably will need a 'sudo' with that if you're not logged in as root
#3686 [23:59] <Gando> sudo rm -rf /
#3687 [23:59] <xolotl> Gando: don't
#3688 [23:59] <acrocycle> thanks Gando it works!
#3689 [23:59] <Gando> 100% file compression guaranteed
#3690 [23:59] <Gando> hold on, i feel like actually doing that now
#3691 [23:59] <Gando> installing a vm now