#1 [00:00] <xolotl> acrocycle: On the offchance that you didn't get the "joke", btw, don't run the command Gando suggested
#2 [00:00] <Gando> yeah
#3 [00:00] <Gando> don't
#4 [00:00] <acrocycle> http://pastebin.com/zQ062RwW
#5 [00:00] <acrocycle> xolotl: too late!! OH NO!
#6 [00:00] <acrocycle> ;-)
#7 [00:01] <acrocycle> No worries, I did that by accident when I first started using linux... not sure why I would have done it by accident but I did
#8 [00:01] <Gando> ha
#9 [00:01] <Gando> i have yet to do it
#10 [00:01] <Gando> which is why i'm installing ubuntu in a virtual machine now
#11 [00:01] <acrocycle> xolotl: that pastebin is what you requested: http://pastebin.com/zQ062RwW
#12 [00:01] <acrocycle> It was devistating.
#13 [00:01] <xolotl> acrocycle: Yeah, saw it. So it's probably a port-forwarding thing, as you'd already probably concluded
#14 [00:02] <acrocycle> Thats what I though xolotl but its so straight forward... I cannot figure out why it won't work
#15 [00:03] <xolotl> acrocycle: If you want to make sure to eliminate variables, you can keep this running on the SSH connection to the box, as you test:
#16 [00:03] <xolotl> sudo tcpdump port 25565
#17 [00:03] <acrocycle> Everything else I have forwarded works... ssh.. http, etc
#18 [00:03] <xolotl> May need to install tcpdump first if it's not already; that'll print out packets to that port as they come in
#19 [00:03] <acrocycle> I installed it yesterday :-)
#20 [00:03] <acrocycle> Just got this thing running yesterday :-)
#21 [00:04] <acrocycle> I better go... must pick up my wife
#22 [00:04] <acrocycle> thanks for the help xolotl
#23 [00:04] <acrocycle> much appreciated.
#24 [00:05] <acrocycle> have a good night (or day)!
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#26 [00:18] <DSi> guys?
#27 [00:18] <DSi> how do I change my nick?
#28 [00:18] <DSi> /nick doesn't work ><
#29 [00:20] <Kxania> :/
#30 [00:20] <Kxania123> ./nick works for me.
#31 [00:20] <DSi> not for me
#32 [00:20] <DSi> I do /nick DeathShot
#33 [00:20] <DSi> and it wont let me change to that
#34 [00:20] <Kxania> What does it say?
#35 [00:20] <DSi> nothing
#36 [00:20] <DSi> absolutly nothing
#37 [00:20] <Kxania> Try it, now.
#38 [00:21] <DSi> still nothing
#39 [00:21] <Kxania> :/
#40 [00:21] <Kxania> What are you using to talk in irc?
#41 [00:21] <DSi> xchat
#42 [00:21] <Kxania> Have you registered that username?
#43 [00:21] <netherian> heh
#44 [00:21] <DSi> how do I reguster it?
#45 [00:21] <DSi> I did not though
#46 [00:21] <netherian> lg_legacy is so fun(ny)
#47 [00:21] <DSi> nor id I register this one
#48 [00:22] <DSi> did*
#49 [00:22] <LG_Legacy> wat
#50 [00:22] <Kxania> So, you haven't been able to talk in #minecraft, either
#51 [00:22] <Kxania> ?
#52 [00:22] <DSi> nope
#53 [00:22] <Kxania> :/
#54 [00:22] <DSi> I've been using the gamesurge minecraft instead
#55 [00:22] <Kxania> That username could either be already registered, or you can't change it because it isn't registered. I'm not sure.
#56 [00:23] <Kxania> What does it say in EsperNet, or whatever it is.
#57 [00:23] <DSi> if its registered then I demand I get it back :P
#58 [00:23] <DSi> nothing
#59 [00:23] <DSi> is there a website I can resgiter on?
#60 [00:23] <DSi> like Esper.net or something?
#61 [00:23] <Kxania> No, you are supposed to use /msg nickserv help
#62 [00:23] <Kxania> in espernet
#63 [00:23] <DSi> I did
#64 [00:23] <Kxania> what happpened?
#65 [00:24] <DSi> it told me to register but I am afraid it will register DSi
#66 [00:24] <Kxania> It will.
#67 [00:24] <DSi> I don't want DSi
#68 [00:24] <Kxania> But you can just use /nick to change it.
#69 [00:24] <DSi> let me try something
#70 [00:24] <DSi> brb
#71 [00:24] <Kxania> :/
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#73 [00:24] <Kxania> lol.
#74 [00:24] <DeathShot> ok
#75 [00:24] <DeathShot> it lets me join with a name but not change it
#76 [00:25] <DSi> Why do you want to change it from Deathshot?
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#78 [00:25] <DeathShot> because that's my name
#79 [00:25] <DeathShot> well not my real name
#80 [00:25] <DeathShot> but my chosen nick name
#81 [00:25] <Kxania> no, why do you want to change it FROM deathshot to something else..
#82 [00:26] <DeathShot> I don't
#83 [00:26] <DeathShot> I was DSi :P
#84 [00:26] <Kxania> Well, then, you're fine.
#85 [00:26] <Kxania> :D
#86 [00:26] <xales> if you are in a +mM channel you cant change nick unless you are identified (in the case of +M)
#87 [00:26] <DeathShot> also open this in a new window (not tab) and let it run for hours, look at it once in a while http://megaswf.com/serve/102223/
#88 [00:27] <Kxania> No thankyou.
#89 [00:27] <DeathShot> its awesome
#90 [00:27] <Kxania> I believe not.
#91 [00:27] <DeathShot> Description: Genetic Algorithm used to build a car with the Box2D physics library. The colors show the crossover and mutation for each member of the population.
#92 [00:28] <Kxania> Awesome.
#93 [00:28] <Kxania> But no thanks.
#94 [00:28] <DeathShot> you're missing out
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#96 [00:28] <DeathShot> but w/e :P
#97 [00:28] <Kxania> Hmm.
#98 [00:28] <Kxania> Sorry, I was just suspicious.
#99 [00:28] <Kxania> Seems pretty cool.
#100 [00:28] <Kxania> haha
#101 [00:29] <DeathShot> what is there to be suspicious off?
#102 [00:29] <DeathShot> megaswf is a flash dumping ground :P
#103 [00:29] <Gando> ok
#104 [00:29] <Gando> opened it up
#105 [00:29] <Gando> what's it doing?
#106 [00:30] <DeathShot> its making cars
#107 [00:30] <Gando> LOL.
#108 [00:30] <DeathShot> everygeneration the car will copy the "genes" or majore charactaristics of the cars that got the farthest
#109 [00:30] <Gando> it made one that looked like a penis.
#110 [00:30] <DeathShot> and use that to make better ones
#111 [00:30] <Gando> and i know what genetic algorithms are ;p
#112 [00:30] <Kxania> aha
#113 [00:31] <DeathShot> wel the slider at the bottom allows you to go from 0% which means it learn really well but has 0 randomness and never really tries new things to 100% which means its always going to be random
#114 [00:31] <DeathShot> I find that 3 -8 works really well if you want to see your car progressavly get better
#115 [00:32] <DeathShot> the bar at the top adds a line every generation
#116 [00:32] <Gando> i'm doing 100 for lawls
#117 [00:32] <Gando> highscore is 94.8 units
#118 [00:32] <DeathShot> the red line is the farthest distance a car got in that generration black is the average they got total
#119 [00:32] <DeathShot> the "score" is really just the distance the car traveled
#120 [00:32] <DeathShot> the one in parenthatheses is that max distance it can
#121 [00:33] <Gando> well damn guys
#122 [00:33] <DeathShot> after that distance the car gets recycled and its genes will automatically be used for the next generation
#123 [00:33] <Gando> i'm going to bed
#124 [00:33] <DeathShot> put it at 3
#125 [00:33] <DeathShot> and leave it running overnight
#126 [00:33] <Gando> i am
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#130 [00:38] <DeathShot> guys how do I register
#131 [00:38] <DeathShot> I tried /REGISTER pass email
#132 [00:39] <Gando> it's /msg nickserv register pass email
#133 [00:39] <DeathShot> thx
#134 [00:45] <DeathShot> !info DeathShot
#135 [00:47] <DeathShot> can someone info me and tell me what you can see?
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#137 [00:48] <xales> what do you mean?
#138 [00:48] <Gando> !info DeathShot
#139 [00:49] <Gando> [DeathShot] (DeathShot@pool-72-74-218-168.bstnma.east.verizon.net): Michael
#140 [00:49] <Gando> * [DeathShot] #MineCraftHelp #minecraft
#141 [00:49] <Gando> * [DeathShot] canis.esper.net :EsperNet, Irvine, CA
#142 [00:49] <Gando> * [DeathShot] has identified for this nick
#143 [00:49] <DeathShot> cool
#144 [00:49] <xales> DeathShot: try /whois deathshot
#145 [00:49] <Gando> it's also /whois, btw
#146 [00:49] <netherian> haha
#147 [00:49] <netherian> xales you ninjs
#148 [00:50] * xales has a cooler host than you, netherian
#148 [00:50] <netherian> probably
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#150 [00:50] <netherian> I use some 2wire thing
#151 [00:50] <netherian> oh hey grey
#152 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> blarg\
#153 [00:51] <netherian> ewww
#154 [00:51] <Gando> blah
#155 [00:51] <Gando> i'm leaving again
#156 [00:51] <Gando> nighty night
#157 [00:52] <DeathShot> lol
#158 [00:52] <DeathShot> night
#159 [00:53] <xales> DeathShot: I could look up your location as well, but no copypaste on this crappy phone
#160 [00:53] <DeathShot> i don't need to know where I live
#161 [00:53] <DeathShot> I already know where I live
#162 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#163 [00:53] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
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#165 [00:56] <xales> ohmygod. how2pipe on droid
#166 [00:56] <xales> :'(
#167 [00:56] <netherian> grey: you need like a !greyhelp for yer bot.
#168 [00:56] <netherian> for list of commands
#169 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> No.. no I don't
#170 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Once I do, people abuse it.
#171 [00:56] <netherian> oh come now, we already know the worst
#172 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Heh, no you don't.
#173 [00:57] <netherian> okay, we know a bad one
#174 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#175 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> !uno
#176 [00:57] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine wants to play Uno! Type join in the channel to join the game. Game will start in 30 seconds
#177 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> !unoend
#178 [00:57] <GreyBot> The current game has been ENDED by GreyVulpine 
#179 [00:57] <netherian> join
#180 [00:57] <netherian> oh
#181 [00:57] <netherian> awe
#182 [00:57] <xales> LOL
#183 [00:57] <xales> :P
#184 [00:57] <netherian> !uno
#185 [00:57] <GreyBot> netherian wants to play Uno! Type join in the channel to join the game. Game will start in 30 seconds
#186 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> !unoend
#187 [00:57] <GreyBot> The current game has been ENDED by GreyVulpine 
#188 [00:57] <netherian> join
#189 [00:57] <netherian> come now
#190 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> How about, not in #MineCraftHelp
#191 [00:57] <netherian> I want to play
#192 [00:58] <netherian> send him over to #uno
#193 [00:58] <netherian> ehh nevermind
#194 [00:58] <netherian> but thank you for showing me that (as you add a whitelist to it)
#195 [00:59] * xales hunts for pipe character on phone. :(
#195 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> Meh, if people start to abuse some commands on greybot, I just won't have him here.
#196 [01:00] <DeathShot> lol you have a commend just like pops
#197 [01:00] <DeathShot> or MrGee
#198 [01:00] <DeathShot> lol none of you know him :P
#199 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#200 [01:01] <DeathShot> stupid triggers
#201 [01:01] <DeathShot> only difference between you and him is that you don't challange us to find them all
#202 [01:01] <DeathShot> and then abuse them
#203 [01:01] * netherian !wikis the crud out of the channel
#203 [01:02] * GreyVulpine !parts greybot
#203 [01:02] <DeathShot> :(
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#205 [01:02] * xales also kicks netherian
#205 [01:02] <netherian> haha
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#207 [01:04] <Kxania> How do you run bukkit in Hamachi?
#208 [01:04] * netherian works on his test
#208 [01:04] <Kxania> on/in
#209 [01:04] <SinZ> same way as normal
#210 [01:04] <SinZ> just enter hamachi ip
#211 [01:04] <Kxania> :/
#212 [01:04] <Kxania> it seems to be glitching out.
#213 [01:05] <SinZ> in server.properties in the ip option, enter your hamachi ip
#214 [01:05] <Kxania> but thats reasonable.
#215 [01:05] <Test> got damnit
#216 [01:05] <Kxania> yeh I know, sinz :D
#217 [01:05] <Test> I can't change my name back to DeathSHot
#218 [01:05] <Test> to "identefy"
#219 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> Test - /part #minecraft
#220 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> then /nick
#221 [01:05] <DeathShot> cool
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#223 [01:06] <xales> Hah, i don't have to do that! /opabuselol
#224 [01:06] <xales> :P
#225 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, looks like mollstam's going to be migrating minecraft servers again.
#226 [01:07] <Kxania> 2011-01-26 15:36:38 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.2_01
#227 [01:07] <Kxania> 2011-01-26 15:36:38 [INFO] Loading properties
#228 [01:07] <Kxania> 2011-01-26 15:36:38 [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on *:25565
#229 [01:07] <Kxania> 2011-01-26 15:36:38 [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#230 [01:07] <Kxania> 2011-01-26 15:36:38 [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Address
#231 [01:07] <Kxania> already in use: JVM_Bind
#232 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> This'll be fun
#233 [01:07] <Kxania> 2011-01-26 15:36:38 [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#234 [01:07] <Kxania> Sorry for multi posting :/
#235 [01:07] <Kxania> wait, hold on.
#236 [01:07] <xales> Aparrantly just paying to outsource, GreyVulpine
#237 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#238 [01:08] <xales> also, don't ever paste anything of that length. I'm on a cellphone
#239 [01:08] <Kxania> Sorry.
#240 [01:08] <netherian> haha
#241 [01:08] <netherian> that means no !wki for me
#242 [01:08] <netherian> SPAM
#243 [01:09] <netherian> !ping
#244 [01:09] <GreyBot> netherian Your Ping time was 0.711 Seconds.
#245 [01:09] <netherian> thank you
#246 [01:09] <netherian> afk for now
#247 [01:09] <Kxania> but what does that mean?
#248 [01:09] <netherian> gotta fix that
#249 [01:09] <Kxania> What I pasted earlier :/
#250 [01:09] <DeathShot> xales which version of android do you have and what phone are you using?
#251 [01:09] <DeathShot> android should have copy paste
#252 [01:10] <xales> Not in this client, not that works, and not that can be easily pasted in a browser, lol.
#253 [01:10] <xales> Connectbot doesn't use normal widgets/whateveritcallsthem, so no native copypaste
#254 [01:11] <xales> Anyway, its a moto droid with 2.2 cyanogenmod
#255 [01:21] <Kxania> Wait, with hamachi,
#256 [01:21] <Kxania> can you get a new IP from it?
#257 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#258 [01:21] <xales> I have no idea, Hamachi is just a bad idea. Don't use it if at all possible
#259 [01:21] <Kxania> It is impossible to go without it, for me.
#260 [01:23] <xales> Why?
#261 [01:23] <Kxania> Don't ask.
#262 [01:23] <Kxania> I don't know why, myself.
#263 [01:24] <xales> Are you at home?
#264 [01:24] <Kxania> Yes?
#265 [01:24] <Kxania> Why?
#266 [01:25] <xales> If you are at home, you should be able to run fine without Hamachi
#267 [01:26] <Kxania> ...
#268 [01:26] <Kxania> dw, dude.
#269 [01:26] <Kxania> I have tried EVERYTHING.
#270 [01:26] <Kxania> (to run a server, normally)
#271 [01:26] <xales> Are you behind double NAT? :P
#272 [01:26] <Kxania> Ughh.
#273 [01:26] <Kxania> No, I don't believe so.
#274 [01:27] <xales> Did you check?
#275 [01:28] <Kxania> How do I check?
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#277 [01:30] <GreyVulpine> Kxania - Do you have access to your router?
#278 [01:30] <xales> Oh sorry, I was busy looking at something ._.
#279 [01:31] <Kxania> yes I do, grey.
#280 [01:31] <xales> Kxania: Open up your router's "status" page
#281 [01:31] <Kxania> ok.
#282 [01:32] <xales> let me know once you have that open
#283 [01:32] <Kxania> its open..
#284 [01:33] <xales> ok, what IP(s) does it list?
#285 [01:33] <Kxania> yes...
#286 [01:33] <Kxania> oh
#287 [01:34] <Kxania> It lists my WAN, the default gateway and DNS address.
#288 [01:34] <Kxania> :/
#289 [01:34] <netherian> this ethernet cable is my new best friend <3
#290 [01:35] <xales> What are those, Kxania?
#291 [01:35] <Kxania> WAN IP 121.45.46.225 Security WPA/WPA2-Personal (PSK)
#292 [01:35] <Kxania> Subnet Mask 255.0.0.0 UPnP Enabled
#293 [01:35] <Kxania> Default Gateway 203.16.215.197 Remote Management Disabled
#294 [01:35] <Kxania> DNS Address 192.231.203.132
#295 [01:35] <Kxania> Whoops, sorry.
#296 [01:35] <xales> ._.
#297 [01:35] <xales> anyway
#298 [01:36] <xales> are you connected to the router via WiFi?
#299 [01:36] <Kxania> yep
#300 [01:36] <xales> try plugging it in
#301 [01:36] <xales> also, running a server on Wifi is a really bad idea
#302 [01:36] <Kxania> I know.
#303 [01:37] <Kxania> I am planning on changing to a different computer.
#304 [01:37] <Kxania> once I figure all this out.
#305 [01:37] <Kxania> (the computer will be connected via ethernet.)
#306 [01:37] <xales> Probably best to get it working on that computer first then
#307 [01:37] <Kxania> :/
#308 [01:37] <Kxania> true.
#309 [01:37] <Kxania> I am also planning on completely resetting that computer.. haha
#310 [01:38] <Kxania> But why is it bad to run it via wifi?
#311 [01:39] <Kxania> because of lag?
#312 [01:39] <xales> Yep
#313 [01:39] <xales> and overhead, as well as ping/'jitter'
#314 [01:39] <Kxania> yeh, true.
#315 [01:40] <xales> and wifi cards tend to be garbage
#316 [01:40] <Kxania> it's just a pain in the ass having ethernets running all through my house.
#317 [01:40] <xales> especially the USB kind
#318 [01:40] <Kxania> lol
#319 [01:40] <Kxania> This is a laptop, so it's built in :D
#320 [01:42] <netherian> :D
#321 [01:42] <netherian> laptops ftw
#322 [01:42] <Kxania> haha
#323 [01:42] <netherian> I have a thing plugged into me right now
#324 [01:42] <netherian> ethernet, that is
#325 [01:43] <xales> Kxania: Try plugging the laptop into ethernet, double-checking that firewalls are off, if you are using 7/vista, that it is a 'home' connection, and redo the port-forward
#326 [01:44] <Kxania> k.
#327 [01:45] <netherian> oh snap, I forgot to do that on my computer
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#329 [01:46] <Kxania> K.
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#331 [01:50] * xales pokes netherian
#331 [01:50] * xales slaps netherian around a bit with an unreasonably massive trout
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#332 [01:51] <netherian> what do you want?
#333 [01:52] <xales> Nothing
#334 [01:52] <xales> ...ping spam, very professional
#335 [01:52] * xales kicked netherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Don't do that)
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#339 [01:53] <netherian> and since when is poking proffesional
#340 [01:53] <Kxania> Ok.
#341 [01:53] <Kxania> Jeez.
#342 [01:53] <Kxania> Anyway.
#343 [01:53] <netherian> and I would hardle call three pings ping spam
#344 [01:53] <Kxania> the server is up now.
#345 [01:53] <Kxania> I had to use the port "25545"
#346 [01:53] <Kxania> but anyway.
#347 [01:53] <xales> Why not 25565?
#348 [01:53] <Kxania> it's alll set up, now what?
#349 [01:53] <xales> =\
#350 [01:54] <xales> Does it work?
#351 [01:54] <Kxania> I don't know.
#352 [01:54] <Kxania> hold on.
#353 [01:54] <Kxania> The thing is, every time i dc from the connection, or internet.
#354 [01:54] <netherian> use !check...
#355 [01:55] <Kxania> my ip changes.
#356 [01:55] <Kxania> !check 121.45.46.225:25545
#357 [01:55] <xales> that would be problematic to hosting a server
#358 [01:55] <xales> as in, it really won't work very well
#359 [01:55] <Kxania> Thats why I was going to get an IP subdomain :/
#360 [01:56] <xales> That won't work either
#361 [01:56] <Kxania> Why not?
#362 [01:57] <xales> the TTL probably isn't low enough for that kind of connection
#363 [01:57] <Kxania> TTL?
#364 [01:57] <xales> Time to live
#365 [01:57] <Kxania> :/
#366 [01:57] <Kxania> Well, I'll just have to keep it from disconnecting from the internet. :/
#367 [01:58] <Kxania> It wont be a 24/7 server, probably, anyway.
#368 [01:58] <xales> Why do you want to run a server in the first place? =/
#369 [01:58] <Kxania> For my friends, and i.
#370 [01:59] <Kxania> just like, 3 or 4 people.
#371 [01:59] <xales> Why not just use an existing server?
#372 [01:59] <xales> much easier
#373 [01:59] <Kxania> ...
#374 [01:59] <xales> also, there is a 1.2:1 ratio of servers:players, which is depressing
#375 [01:59] <Kxania> :/
#376 [01:59] <xales> given how 80% of the people coming here need help running a server, some with absolutely no knowledge of anything beyond double-clicking minecraft and logging in
#377 [01:59] <xales> :'(
#378 [02:00] <Kxania> Hey, hey, I know more than that.
#379 [02:00] <xales> I'm not saying you don't
#380 [02:01] <xales> http://phonicuk.com/serverlist/#stats
#381 [02:01] <xales> ._.
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#384 [02:02] <Kxania1> What is that?
#385 [02:03] <xales> Server stats
#386 [02:03] <xales> it might take a minute to load
#387 [02:03] <Kxania1> wow, 1200.
#388 [02:03] <netherian> so like uh
#389 [02:04] <netherian> xales, if ever I have a problem like "how does I gets server to run hurrr hurr" I should ask you?
#390 [02:04] <xales> Kxania: Look at the last one ._.
#391 [02:04] <xales> netherian: No
#392 [02:04] <netherian> oh.
#393 [02:04] <netherian> well then.
#394 [02:04] <Kxania> :O
#395 [02:04] <Kxania> WTH!
#396 [02:05] <netherian> makes servers a mite lonely, eh?
#397 [02:05] <Kxania> yeh.
#398 [02:06] <xales> Kxania: Unless you have a specific need, I'd honestly suggest just finding a server you like and playing with your friends. Minecraft worlds are quite big...
#399 [02:06] <xales> and profesionally hosted servers tend to work much better
#400 [02:06] <Kxania> Yeah, But sometimes I just like the, privacy? I guess.
#401 [02:06] <Kxania> haha.
#402 [02:06] <xales> as they are on better connections and better computers, with professional and dedicated admins
#403 [02:07] <xales> also, just run off in one direction quite a ways. nobody will find you
#404 [02:07] <netherian> they might
#405 [02:07] <netherian> if there are mods
#406 [02:07] <Kxania> Mmm, yeh.
#407 [02:07] <xales> why would the mods care/who cares if they see it...
#408 [02:08] <netherian> ...
#409 [02:08] <netherian> modifications, not moderators
#410 [02:08] <xales> Kxania: Especially seeing as how it would be unlikely to run properly on your internet in the first place
#411 [02:08] <xales> netherian: What would a mod do to help them find you if you are far enough away
#412 [02:08] <netherian> /tp, /goto, /etc
#413 [02:08] <netherian> some do
#414 [02:09] <xales> generally those are reserved for admins
#415 [02:09] <Kxania> I'm not talking about privacy, privacy.
#416 [02:09] <xales> :P
#417 [02:09] <Kxania> I just want a server that only my friends are allowed to be on..
#418 [02:10] <Kxania> but meh, it seems you are deadset against it.
#419 [02:11] <xales> I'm not deadset against it, I'm just saying that there are better solutions that involve less work
#420 [02:11] <netherian> xales: you are deadset against it
#421 [02:11] <netherian> every single person who walks through yonder doors
#422 [02:11] <xales> if you really want to do it, then fine, but don't expect it to work out the way you want
#423 [02:11] <netherian> you just say
#424 [02:11] <netherian> "go on a public server"
#425 [02:11] <xales> I've said that twice now, thanky
#426 [02:12] <netherian> not just to this guy
#427 [02:12] <netherian> you even said it to me, at least twice.
#428 [02:12] <xales> um, no
#429 [02:12] <xales> lol
#430 [02:12] <xales> I've said it to two people
#431 [02:12] <xales> and never to you
#432 [02:13] <netherian> lies.
#433 [02:13] <netherian> shameless lies.
#434 [02:13] <netherian> ;o
#435 [02:13] <netherian> I'm probably just trippin'
#436 [02:16] <netherian> *_*
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#438 [02:16] <xales> ...
#439 [02:17] <Kxania> :/
#440 [02:18] <netherian> and back to crummy wireless
#441 [02:18] * xales laughs at netherian
#441 [02:19] <netherian> it's by my choice
#442 [02:19] <netherian> I want to be in my room
#443 [02:19] <xales> Kxania: If you are looking for a relatively unused server thats good speed, try smp.shadow-craft.net:25570
#444 [02:19] <netherian> and I don't have loooooooooong ethernets
#445 [02:20] <xales> I have a 95 foot cable
#446 [02:20] <xales> I don't use it
#447 [02:20] <xales> but i have it
#448 [02:20] <Kxania> :/ Nah. screw it.
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#451 [02:24] <Kxania> wow,, I screwed myself over, so bad.
#452 [02:24] <Kxania> -.-
#453 [02:24] <netherian> yeah
#454 [02:24] <netherian> you did
#455 [02:24] <netherian> you suck mate
#456 [02:25] <Kxania> oh, no.
#457 [02:25] <Kxania> wth
#458 [02:25] <netherian> what
#459 [02:25] <Kxania> not with the server crap.
#460 [02:25] <Kxania> hahaha.
#461 [02:25] <Kxania> I was messing with the router settings, and reset my connection, when I was downloading an MMO.
#462 [02:25] <Kxania> and it stopped the download, which meant I had to start it all over again.
#463 [02:25] <Kxania> grr.
#464 [02:26] <netherian> lol, what is it, IE?
#465 [02:26] <netherian> learntotorrent
#466 [02:26] <xales> lrn2http1.1
#467 [02:26] <Kxania> ...
#468 [02:26] <Kxania> It was an installer.
#469 [02:26] <Kxania> for the game.
#470 [02:26] <netherian> http1.1?
#471 [02:26] <Kxania> not a torrent or anything.
#472 [02:26] <Kxania> no.
#473 [02:26] <xales> installer needs to lrn2http1.1 then
#474 [02:27] <netherian> !google http1.1
#475 [02:27] <netherian> aww, no googler
#476 [02:27] <xales> do it yourself, nooblet
#477 [02:27] <netherian> nowai
#478 [02:27] <netherian> I'll let you google that for me
#479 [02:27] <xales> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.txt
#480 [02:27] <netherian> you know you want to lmgtfy it
#481 [02:27] <xales> not even googled
#482 [02:28] <Kxania> I have a question somewhat off-topic.
#483 [02:28] <netherian> omigodtext
#484 [02:28] <xales> Kxania: ?
#485 [02:28] <netherian> how about I just copypaste that all here?
#486 [02:28] <netherian> so we can all read it
#487 [02:28] * GreyVulpine sets mode +b ?
#487 [02:29] <Kxania> Why is it, that when I do a speedtest (speedtest.com) it says my DL is 3mbps, but when I'm downloading something, its only like, 300kbps.
#488 [02:29] <netherian> greyvilpine: calm down, jeez.
#489 [02:29] <Kxania> ??
#490 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#491 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> I am calm
#492 [02:29] <xales> Kxania: You are using some of the speed
#493 [02:29] <netherian> well, I'm ruddy well not
#494 [02:29] <xales> so less is available to the speedtest site
#495 [02:30] <Kxania> No.
#496 [02:30] <Kxania> I did the speedtest before I started to download.
#497 [02:33] <Kxania> Stupid download sites, shorting their bandwidth.
#498 [02:33] <Kxania> -.-
#499 [02:34] <xales> what?
#500 [02:34] <Kxania> dw.
#501 [02:35] <Kxania> Well, I'm going to quit out of evverything connected to the internet, apart from this download, so, goodbye.
#502 [02:36] <xales> Except for the fact that IRC uses actually no bandwidth ._.
#503 [02:40] <netherian> ftw
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#505 [02:48] <da_nub_losty> hi, my minecraft, that was formerly working on this computer, is now crashing upon load
#506 [02:48] <da_nub_losty> what should i do?
#507 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com an error report?
#508 [02:48] <xales> ninja'd, GreyVulpine
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#510 [02:48] <da_nub_losty> should i paste it here?
#511 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> No
#512 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> www.pastebin.com
#513 [02:49] <da_nub_losty> like this? http://pastebin.com/4Tr11dBW
#514 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> YEs
#515 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Were you trying to run any mods with minecraft?
#516 [02:50] <da_nub_losty> a texture package
#517 [02:50] <da_nub_losty> if thats considered a mod then yes
#518 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, just a zip file in the texturepacks folder?
#519 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Or a high def one?
#520 [02:51] <da_nub_losty> im pretty sure it was HD if i remember right
#521 [02:51] <xales> I may recognize that error
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#523 [02:51] <xales> Just try deleteing the bin folder
#524 [02:51] <xales> !reinstall
#525 [02:51] <xales> should fix that
#526 [02:51] <da_nub_losty> okay ill try that
#527 [02:51] <Solvius> goodday
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#529 [02:58] <da_nub_losty> thanks that fixed it =)
#530 [02:58] <da_nub_losty> bye now
#531 [02:59] <netherian> lolmibbit
#532 [02:59] <netherian> mibbit fails
#533 [02:59] <netherian> I have text proof of that
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#535 [03:00] <netherian> I'd paste it here, but I fear xales and grey are a bit trigger happy right now
#536 [03:01] <xales> pastebin?
#537 [03:01] <netherian> it's just a short clip of me and some guy. it also holds the back story within it.
#538 [03:02] <netherian> http://pastebin.com/LjbLA2BP
#539 [03:02] <xales> Not very amusing, and not particularly stupid
#540 [03:03] <netherian> was it ever said to be amusing
#541 [03:03] <netherian> and I disagree with the stupid part
#542 [03:04] <xales> http://public:0000.darksigns.net/xales/resinate.log
#543 [03:04] <xales> that is stupid
#544 [03:04] <xales> not what you linked.
#545 [03:04] <xales> err
#546 [03:04] <xales> bad link
#547 [03:05] <xales> http://public:0000@darksigns.net/xales/resinate.log
#548 [03:06] <netherian> can't find it
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#551 [03:07] <netherian> as in
#552 [03:07] <netherian> internet can't find the link
#553 [03:07] <xales> umm, did you try the second one?
#554 [03:07] <netherian> mmhmm
#555 [03:08] <xales> what browser are you using
#556 [03:08] <xales> because it fails hardcore
#557 [03:08] <xales> http://darksigns.net/xales/resinate.log
#558 [03:08] <netherian> internet exfailer
#559 [03:09] <xales> username: public
#560 [03:09] <xales> password: 0000
#561 [03:09] <xales> it keeps the mibspam out
#562 [03:09] <netherian> omigodbigwalloftext
#563 [03:10] <netherian> that hurts my eyes to read
#564 [03:10] <netherian> I'll be done in like an hour
#565 [03:11] <xales> you fail at computer
#566 [03:11] <xales> and you fail at internet
#567 [03:11] <xales> that is actually really easy to read
#568 [03:11] <netherian> let me pastebin what I am seeing
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#570 [03:12] <netherian> oh weird
#571 [03:12] <netherian> if I put it into pastebin
#572 [03:12] <netherian> in adds enter's
#573 [03:12] <netherian> in notepad
#574 [03:12] <netherian> it's one huge ecreen filling wall of text
#575 [03:13] <netherian> darn windows
#576 [03:13] <Solvius> minecraft.net doesnt work
#577 [03:14] <netherian> !isdown mineecraft.net
#578 [03:14] <GreyBot> netherian: It's not just you! http://mineecraft.net looks down from here.
#579 [03:14] <netherian> ono
#580 [03:15] <Solvius> 500 Servlet Exception
#581 [03:15] <Solvius> [show] java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections!
#582 [03:15] <Solvius> thats what I get
#583 [03:15] <Solvius> :)
#584 [03:15] <xales> Solvius: Clear DNS cache
#585 [03:15] <netherian> but xales: not the help one.
#586 [03:15] <netherian> ;p
#587 [03:15] <Solvius> how do I do that ?
#588 [03:15] <xales> Solvius: Are you using Windows?
#589 [03:15] <Solvius> yes firefox
#590 [03:15] <xales> Browser doesn't matter
#591 [03:15] <Solvius> ok
#592 [03:15] <xales> Windows 7 or vista?
#593 [03:16] <Solvius> win 7
#594 [03:16] <xales> start->all programs->accessories->command prompt(right click, run as administrator)
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#596 [03:16] <Blue_Star> hi , where is the minecraft.exe normaly ? i have placed the .exe otherwise and have problems now with a mod programm
#597 [03:17] <netherian> run as admin? what are you going to do, have him delete the windows32 virus o_O
#598 [03:17] <xales> Blue_Star: Do this
#599 [03:17] <xales> !reinstall
#600 [03:18] <feenyx> xales: my brain hurts from reading that log =/
#601 [03:18] <xales> feenyx: I get stuff like that all the time D:
#602 [03:18] <Solvius> ok, I am so far, and now ? I see a dos box menu
#603 [03:18] <feenyx> people that like need to be taken out behind the toolshed and be gently shot in the back of the head with a shotgun
#604 [03:18] <xales> Solvius: run 'ipconfig /flushdns'
#605 [03:18] <Solvius> ok
#606 [03:19] <Blue_Star> need only the position from the orginal file :) game runs great ...only for minecrafter i must place it back to the original place
#607 [03:19] <netherian> haha xales, nice log
#608 [03:19] <Solvius> ok he cleaned it
#609 [03:19] <Solvius> empty :0
#610 [03:19] <Solvius> 500 Servlet Exception
#611 [03:19] <Solvius> [show] java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections!
#612 [03:20] <Solvius> :)
#613 [03:20] <xales> Blue_Star: minecraft.exe goes whereever you want it, it doesn't go anywhere specific
#614 [03:20] <xales> Solvius: Just gotta wait then =/
#615 [03:20] * xales prods mollstam
#615 [03:20] <Solvius> ok
#616 [03:20] <Solvius> never had to that before, how come ?
#617 [03:21] <xales> Because of the server move
#618 [03:21] <Solvius> ahaa
#619 [03:21] <xales> It is being fixed soon
#620 [03:21] <Solvius> well now I need a cigaret, after good computing i need a cigaret :)
#621 [03:22] <Blue_Star> xalves ok thx
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#623 [03:22] <Blue_Star> then is my problem minecrafter ..strange
#624 [03:23] <netherian> I thought it was spelled cigarette...
#625 [03:24] <netherian> I gots to goes to beds
#626 [03:24] <Solvius> well I ya understand the message its ok :0
#627 [03:25] <Solvius> *f
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#629 [03:26] <Solvius> thnx xales so far :)
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#631 [03:43] <xales> GreyVulpine: you around? =/
#632 [03:44] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#633 [03:44] <xales> I can't remember the names of this kind of image/whatever, http://irssi.org/images/anybrowser.png
#634 [03:44] <xales> ._.
#635 [03:45] <GreyVulpine> um
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#638 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> I don't remember
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#640 [03:48] <feenyx> xales: a tag?
#641 [03:52] <xales> feenyx: Don't think so, its more specific than that
#642 [03:53] <feenyx> might be, but I think that's the only term I've ever heard or used myself
#643 [03:54] <feenyx> made me think of this one I used, like 8 years ago on the website I had then: http://web.archive.org/web/20041013112521/www.feenyx.net/_images/pbnp.jpg
#644 [03:55] <xales> derp, "rss button"
#645 [03:55] <xales> also, generator I used is http://kalsey.com/tools/buttonmaker/
#646 [03:55] <xales> :)
#647 [03:56] <feenyx> an rss button is only an accurate description if it's for an actual rss feed, imho :p
#648 [03:56] <feenyx> also, google images gives you heaps to choose from :p
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#650 [04:36] <pastst> hey
#651 [04:36] <pastst> is anyone online here?
#652 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#653 [04:36] <pastst> lol
#654 [04:36] <feenyx> nobody is online here
#655 [04:36] <pastst> can you guys help me
#656 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps
#657 [04:37] <pastst> good enough
#658 [04:37] <pastst> ok i was playing in the reddit server
#659 [04:37] <pastst> and i got banned for some reason
#660 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> We have no control over how server admins run their minecraft servers. You'll have to talk to the reddit admins
#661 [04:37] <pastst> where is that?
#662 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> http://www.redditpublic.com/wiki/Main_Page
#663 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> Somewhere in that wiki
#664 [04:38] <pastst> thanks alot
#665 [04:38] <pastst> appreciate it
#666 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> "You may appeal bans by messaging #mcpublic on reddit. "
#667 [04:39] <pastst> thanks grey XD
#668 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> mhmm
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#670 [05:02] <mollstam> xales: what's up with le prodding?
#671 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> I think xales wanted you to fix some website problem
#672 [05:03] <mollstam> this can't be!
#673 [05:03] <mollstam> free connections are overrated!
#674 [05:07] <mollstam> Solvius: found the instance with no free connection, giving it a jolt
#675 [05:09] <LordEddi> Speaking of jolts.. *goes to find his morningcoffee*
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#679 [05:23] <Solvius> mollstam ???
#680 [05:24] <Solvius> minecraft website is working now
#681 [05:28] <LG_Legacy> Solvius wat
#682 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> One of the instances of the cluster crashed, I blame Solvius.
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#699 [07:28] <shadoom> Hey, any News about the server which sends out gift codes? bought one 24 hours ago still didnt get one :\
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#701 [07:31] <GreyVulpine> How did you pay?
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#703 [07:37] <shadoom> paypal
#704 [07:39] <GreyVulpine> Did the payment already clear?
#705 [07:40] <shadoom> yep i got the mail with the transactioncode and which says "confirmation for the payment to mojang AB" (something like that)
#706 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, have you checked your profile page? See if the gift code shows up tehre
#707 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> there*
#708 [07:42] <shadoom> ah.....
#709 [07:42] <shadoom> its there... ^^
#710 [07:43] <shadoom> im sorry, the page which i got redirected to said "Please wait for the email it may take some hours"
#711 [07:43] <shadoom> so i waited and waited, i didnt know it would be there as well
#712 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> No worries
#713 [07:43] <shadoom> thx <3 interwebz love to you GreyVulpine ^^
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#719 [08:18] <mib_1neibz> hey mincraft is not working for me can anyone help
#720 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> Why isn't it working?
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#722 [08:19] <mib_1neibz> it askes for my info i put it in then it goes black
#723 [08:20] <xales> Do you have up to date graphics drivers?
#724 [08:20] <mib_1neibz> i redwonloaded it and it still wont work
#725 [08:21] <xales> ..
#726 [08:21] <mib_1neibz> i dont know it worked right after i bought it
#727 [08:21] <xales> Did you install any mods?
#728 [08:21] <mib_1neibz> noi
#729 [08:21] <mib_1neibz> im new at this game and yesterday was my first time playing
#730 [08:21] <xales> Update your graphics driver
#731 [08:22] <mib_1neibz> does it cost anything
#732 [08:22] <SinZ> mib_1neibz does it work in browser
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#734 [08:22] <xales> No
#735 [08:23] <mib_1neibz> one sec
#736 [08:23] <dakira> hi.. is anyone else experiencing high cpu usage (leading to loss of sound) when playing minecraft on linux?
#737 [08:23] <xales> dakira: How high?
#738 [08:23] <mib_1neibz> yeah its working on surver
#739 [08:24] <xales> What percent on what CPU
#740 [08:24] <xales> mib_1neibz: Is it working when you play on minecraft.net?
#741 [08:24] <mib_1neibz> yes
#742 [08:24] <dakira> xales: like 100%
#743 [08:25] <xales> dakira: What CPU?
#744 [08:25] <xales> mib_1neibz: But the download version doesn't work?
#745 [08:25] <mib_1neibz> correct
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#747 [08:26] <xales> mib_1neibz: What version of Windows are you runnin?
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#749 [08:26] <mib_1neibz> 7
#750 [08:26] <mib_1neibz> taek note im on a laptop
#751 [08:26] <SinZ> mib_1neibz: go to %appdata%\.minecraft\bin and delete the version file
#752 [08:26] <SinZ> then try again
#753 [08:27] <bacon> mib_1neibz: Is there anything wrong with just playing in-browser?
#754 [08:28] <mib_1neibz> no
#755 [08:28] <Robin> uhm... why does minecraft freeze my whole system after about 15 minutes of playing?
#756 [08:28] <xales> Robin: Specs of system?
#757 [08:28] <xales> How much RAM, etc
#758 [08:29] <Robin> CPU[-Dual core Intel Core2 T7200 (-MCP-) clocked at 1000.000 Mhz-] Kernel[-2.6.35-24-generic i686-] Up[-16 min-] Mem[-587.1/2011.1MB-] HDD[-160.0GB(59.0% used)-] Procs[-181-] Client[-X-Chat 2.8.8-] inxi[-1.4.12-]
#759 [08:29] <Robin> cpu is set to ondemand, i clocks to 2Ghz when needed
#760 [08:30] <xales> What about GPU?
#761 [08:30] <Robin> i dunno, NVidia Quadro NVS110 64MB
#762 [08:30] <Robin> but no lag though :p
#763 [08:30] <dakira> xales: what do you mean, what cpu? the computer has a dual core processor and the cpu running minecraft is at 100%.. shortly before it hits 100% I lose sound (but can still play). But the computer just runs too hot..
#764 [08:30] <Robin> GPU != CPU
#765 [08:30] <xales> dakira: What is the speed of the CPU
#766 [08:31] <xales> dakira: and what GPU as well
#767 [08:31] <xales> Robin: It is probably overloading the GPU, that doesn't sound like it would work too well
#768 [08:31] <Robin> lol
#769 [08:31] <xales> Linux can do some funky stuff to it to get it to run, just reaaaalllly hot, on some cards, without telling you
#770 [08:31] <Robin> i was able to run almost any game on this, don't think minecraft is such a heavy game?
#771 [08:31] <xales> It is pretty heavy, unfortunately
#772 [08:32] <Robin> isnt overheating, max temperature is 60°c :p
#773 [08:32] <xales> The graphics style is retro, but games like Crysis would be just as heavy if you pixelated the textures a bit
#774 [08:32] <Robin> (i logged it)
#775 [08:32] <xales> Robin: Doesn't need to be overheating, but if the motherboard detected a fault then it could hit a failsafe and abort
#776 [08:33] <Robin> also the tty's dont survive, ctrl+alt+backspace should kill everything and bring me back to the login screen no matter what. and even that doesnt work anymore
#777 [08:33] <xales> Try magic sysrq
#778 [08:33] <xales> if that doesn't work, then the kernel aborted
#779 [08:33] <Robin> magic sysrq?
#780 [08:33] <dakira> xales: I'm not sure.. it is a friends computer.. the GPU is a mobile nvidia 9200something.. the cpu should be a good core2duo. In fact the game itself runs WAY better on his computer, than on my old machine. But on his machine at some point java crashes and goes to 100% (this happens for all minecraft-playing linux users I know.. but very rarely)
#781 [08:33] <xales> which means a hardware or significant driver problem
#782 [08:33] <xales> Robin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
#783 [08:34] <mib_1neibz> hey its working
#784 [08:34] <Robin> dakira: inxi -G should give you more info about the graphics card
#785 [08:34] <mib_1neibz> thanks for the help
#786 [08:35] <xales> dakira: Using OpenJDK or Sun/Oracle?
#787 [08:36] <dakira> Robin: if you're using Ubuntu 10.10, magic sysreq has been disabled by default.. you have to enable it with echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
#788 [08:36] <dakira> xales: the latest snoracle
#789 [08:36] <Robin> using Mint 10, based on Ubuntu 10.10
#790 [08:36] <Robin> ...
#791 [08:36] <xales> dakira: You could try with OpenJDK, I've heard some people fix issues by switching from one to the other
#792 [08:36] <dakira> xales: I'll try that..
#793 [08:37] <dakira> xales: I've heard disabling pulseaudio (using pasuspender) and just using alsa, might also help..
#794 [08:37] <dakira> Robin: you can check with cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq .. that should return "1"
#795 [08:38] <Robin> thanx
#796 [08:38] <Robin> robin@LaptopVanRobin ~ $ cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
#797 [08:38] <Robin> 0
#798 [08:38] <Robin> :p
#799 [08:38] <xales> put a 1 in there
#800 [08:38] <Robin> ok what now? :p
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#802 [08:39] <Robin> wanted to check what key was use by sysrq
#803 [08:39] <Robin> robin@LaptopVanRobin ~ $ sudo cat /proc/sysrq-trigger
#804 [08:39] <Robin> cat: /proc/sysrq-trigger: Invoer-/uitvoerfout
#805 [08:39] <Robin> >.<
#806 [08:39] <Skylined> hey
#807 [08:39] <Robin> translation: input/output error
#808 [08:39] <dakira> Robin: actually.. add the above line (with tee) to the end of /etc/rc.local (before exit 0) to make sure magic sysrq stays enabled
#809 [08:40] <Robin> lol k
#810 [08:40] <Robin> ... why tee and not just nano? xD
#811 [08:40] <xales> Robin: The key it uses is the sysrq key
#812 [08:40] <Robin> hey just noticed :o i've got a sysrq key on my keyboard xD
#813 [08:40] <xales> It should be labeled or possibly combined with print screen
#814 [08:40] <xales> yeah :)
#815 [08:41] <dakira> Robin: On my keyboard the key says "Print/Sys-Rq".. on my German keyboard it says "Druck/S-Abf" if that helps.. it should be located close to pause and scroll
#816 [08:42] <Robin> yeah i see it
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#818 [08:42] <Robin> only.... how to test it?
#819 [08:42] <Robin> shouldnt i reboot first btw?
#820 [08:43] <mib_k9ucua> Can I run a previously single-created world in a server?
#821 [08:43] <xales> Why reboot?
#822 [08:43] <xales> mib_k9ucua: Yes
#823 [08:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes mib_k9ucua
#824 [08:43] <mib_k9ucua> Thanks.
#825 [08:43] <mib_k9ucua> I can't find the files, though
#826 [08:43] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on?
#827 [08:43] <mib_k9ucua> VIsta
#828 [08:43] <xales> Robin: The only time you ever need to reboot under Linux is if you want to switch to a different kernel, and even then, you don't always need to do taht
#829 [08:43] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, type in: %appdata%
#830 [08:43] <GreyVulpine> in the search bar
#831 [08:43] <GreyVulpine> Look for a .minecraft/saves folder
#832 [08:44] <Robin> <xales> Robin: The only time you ever need to reboot under Linux is if you want to switch to a different kernel, and even then, you don't always need to do taht << but this is a kernel optuioN? isnt it? :p
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#834 [08:44] <mib_k9ucua> Wow, so easy?
#835 [08:44] <mib_k9ucua> Thanks!
#836 [08:45] <xales> Robin: It is a kernel option, yes
#837 [08:45] <Robin> so.. than i shoulmd reboot?
#838 [08:45] <xales> but not one that persists, and you still don't need to reboot unless you switch kernel entirely
#839 [08:45] <xales> so no, in fact, specifically do not reboot
#840 [08:46] <Robin> lol ok :p
#841 [08:46] <Robin> than it doesnt work xD
#842 [08:46] <Robin> ctrl+alt+sysrq+, should output something to tty1..... and it doesnt :p
#843 [08:48] <xales> what?
#844 [08:49] <xales> it won't print anything if tty1 has X running on it
#845 [08:49] <xales> and , is not a valid key unless you are using DVORAK
#846 [08:49] <Robin> .... ctrl+alt+f7 is X isnt it? :p
#847 [08:49] <Robin> dvorak? xD
#848 [08:50] <Robin> on the page you gave me it said that , was "Output current memory information to the console" for an azerty keyboard
#849 [08:50] <xales> oh, you are on azerty
#850 [08:50] <xales> shut down X and try again
#851 [08:50] <Robin> huh nvm, first have to switch, then pres it xD
#852 [08:50] <Robin> thx :p
#853 [08:53] <Robin> olmg
#854 [08:53] <Robin> no matter what i press it always outputs the same
#855 [08:54] <xales> drop the control key
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#857 [08:58] <xales> Oh god
#858 [08:58] <xales> GreyVulpine, never resize an NTFS volume
#859 [08:58] <xales> :'(
#860 [08:58] <Coll> why not?
#861 [08:59] <xales> one moment
#862 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#863 [09:00] <xales> This
#864 [09:00] <xales> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7950795/IMG_20110126_085914.jpg
#865 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> The.. crap are you doign
#866 [09:01] <xales> Resizing an NTFS volume
#867 [09:01] <Coll> wut
#868 [09:01] <Coll> I dont understand the problem
#869 [09:01] <xales> moving it 128MB to the right
#870 [09:01] <Coll> except that it might take forever
#871 [09:01] <xales> Coll: SEVEN HOURS
#872 [09:01] <xales> ._.
#873 [09:01] <Coll> wel no fucking duh
#874 [09:01] <Coll> its a terrabyte for crying out loud
#875 [09:02] <SinZ> bit
#876 [09:02] <SinZ> terrabit
#877 [09:02] <xales> no, that is terabyte
#878 [09:02] <xales> uppercase B = byte, lowercase = bit
#879 [09:02] <SinZ> TiB is a terrabit
#880 [09:02] <SinZ> then wtf is the i
#881 [09:03] <Coll> lol
#882 [09:03] <xales> I'm not 100% sure on that, but the drive capacity is also 1.2 terabytes
#883 [09:03] <SinZ> there isn't even an i in terrabyte
#884 [09:03] <xales> so...whatever
#885 [09:03] <Coll> but in that name the i comes before the b
#886 [09:03] <bacon> no, that's the 1000 instead of 1024 version
#887 [09:03] <bacon> or maybe vice versa.
#888 [09:03] <Coll> so where do you get bit from
#889 [09:03] <SinZ> 1000 is bit
#890 [09:03] <bacon> <drupal> tebibytes?
#891 [09:03] <SinZ> 1024 is byte
#892 [09:04] <bacon> 1024*8=8192
#893 [09:04] <bacon> :/
#894 [09:04] <bacon> bits still go in 1024
#895 [09:04] <bacon> and bleh
#896 [09:05] <xales> Yeah, Ti is tebibyte
#897 [09:05] <xales> lol
#898 [09:05] <Coll> wtf is a tebi
#899 [09:05] <xales> 1024
#900 [09:05] <xales> tera = 1000, tebi = 1024
#901 [09:05] <xales> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte
#902 [09:05] <Coll> I see
#903 [09:06] <xales> It would probably be faster to hack my bios to read past that volume than to actually just move it
#904 [09:06] <xales> ._.
#905 [09:06] <Coll> I dont understand why theres a 124 one
#906 [09:06] <xales> Binary
#907 [09:06] <Coll> uh
#908 [09:06] <Coll> I dont understand much about that
#909 [09:07] <xales> 1024 is 10000000000
#910 [09:07] <xales> in binary
#911 [09:07] <Coll> I would asume people want 00s and 1s
#912 [09:07] <Coll> uh
#913 [09:07] <xales> whereas 1000 is 1111101000
#914 [09:07] <Coll> ok
#915 [09:07] <Coll> I guess
#916 [09:07] <xales> the first one is easier
#917 [09:07] <Coll> easier for the computer?
#918 [09:07] <xales> yes
#919 [09:07] <xales> and people, too
#920 [09:08] <Coll> I see
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#922 [09:08] <xales> well, if you are doing the math in binary anyway
#923 [09:08] <xales> its easier to look at a number with only one number and just count places than it is to do it for several
#924 [09:09] <xales> I just had a really bad thought
#925 [09:09] <xales> Where is it reading that tebibyte TOO exactly ._.
#926 [09:09] <xales> I don't have that much RAM
#927 [09:10] <Coll> well just wait 7 hours
#928 [09:10] <Coll> im sure you can find something else to do right?
#929 [09:10] <xales> I was planning on it taking a half hour
#930 [09:10] <xales> =/
#931 [09:10] <Coll> wow'
#932 [09:11] <Coll> Well not to be rude but I dont think anyone who owns a drive that large should be expecting things to go that fast
#933 [09:12] <xales> It went that fast when it was an ext4 partition
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#935 [09:12] <Kealper> tebibyte?.....someone has a tebibyte drive?
#936 [09:12] <kevinv> heey can i ask a question
#937 [09:12] <xales> Tebibyte is only marginally larger than terabyte, Kealper
#938 [09:12] <xales> kevinv: shoot
#939 [09:13] <xales> Kealper: FML http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7950795/IMG_20110126_085914.jpg
#940 [09:13] <kevinv> how do you connect to a server of a friend
#941 [09:13] <xales> you would type in their IP and click connect
#942 [09:13] <Robin> xales: maybe you can help someone else with this solution later. cause currently it runs fine. limit the maximum memory size (by using ulimit) to the actual ram size - 10%, start minecraft, set the priority to -1
#943 [09:13] <kevinv> that doesnt work for me
#944 [09:13] <Robin> that does it for me apparently
#945 [09:13] <xales> Robin: Cool, thanks. Glad you got it working
#946 [09:13] <mbentley> then your friend didn't set up the server properly :D
#947 [09:14] <Robin> :p
#948 [09:14] <xales> Or gave you the wrong IP
#949 [09:14] <Kealper> TiB is just a fucking stupid way of writing TB
#950 [09:14] <kevinv> how do you set up properly ?
#951 [09:14] <xales> Kealper: My only question, WHERE DOES IT READ TO
#952 [09:14] <Robin> /// Kealper no it isnt
#953 [09:14] <xales> kevinv: If it was as simple as a one-line answer, people wouldn't have issues with it
#954 [09:14] <Robin> You've got MB, Mb, and MiB
#955 [09:15] <xales> Kealper: I don't have that much RAM, of course, and no swapfile on this livecd, and no drive mounted
#956 [09:15] <Robin> just as you've got TB, Tb, and TiB
#957 [09:15] <Kealper> i stand corrected
#958 [09:15] <kevinv> can you explain
#959 [09:15] <mbentley> kevinv: there are many places your friend might have done something wrong
#960 [09:15] <xales> kevinv: He would download and configure the server, set up port forwarding, turn off firewalls, and give you the IP
#961 [09:15] <xales> all of those consist of several steps that could have been done wrong
#962 [09:16] <kevinv> how do you configure ?
#963 [09:16] <kevinv> because i cant find anything
#964 [09:16] <mbentley> you google and ready the topic
#965 [09:16] <mbentley> :)
#966 [09:16] <xales> And the messages sent to you when you joined
#967 [09:16] <xales> :)
#968 [09:16] <Coll> and the topic at the top of the irc channel
#969 [09:17] <Coll> :)
#970 [09:17] <xales> Especially the please read the following first part
#971 [09:17] <xales> :)
#972 [09:17] <kevinv> oke thx
#973 [09:17] <Coll> hahahaha
#974 [09:17] <mbentley> ready could also be known as read
#975 [09:17] <mbentley> fingers get all excited when i type
#976 [09:18] <Coll> watch him come back
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#978 [09:19] <xales> Topic colors :)
#979 [09:19] <Coll> yeah like thatll work
#980 [09:20] <Kealper> lol
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#982 [09:22] <xales> Maybe if I put it in flashing colors...
#983 [09:23] <xales> Oh wonderful, nearly 100GiB read, and its only been 20 minutes
#984 [09:24] <mbentley> i would move the 'We reserve the right to deny support to anyone, for any reason' to the end but that is just me :)
#985 [09:24] <Coll> oh boy
#986 [09:25] <xales> mbentley: It helps with the 'im entitled to support' people
#987 [09:25] <xales> since its there, none of em have said anything
#988 [09:25] <xales> :)
#989 [09:25] <mbentley> topic looks very... patriotic
#990 [09:25] <mbentley> at least on my client
#991 [09:26] <Kealper> lol
#992 [09:26] <mbentley> if you could make the topic cause people's computers to literally burst into flames, they probably still wouldn't see it
#993 [09:26] <xales> Looks the same on mine :)
#994 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, dark blue on black.
#995 [09:30] * GreyVulpine squints
#995 [09:30] * fogwraith squints back
#995 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> I take it you have a white background.
#996 [09:32] <xales> Nope
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#999 [09:34] <Kealper> only made worse by having a pink background with black text
#1000 [09:37] <xales> Shouldn't the 'please read the following first' go..first? oh whatever
#1001 [09:38] <SinZ> your missing a | at the end of the faq link
#1002 [09:38] * GreyVulpine grrs
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#1003 [09:39] <Twanaa> I AM BANNED FROM MY OWN SERVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1004 [09:39] <Kealper> i don't think that was enough topic changes...lol
#1005 [09:39] <Kealper> O.o
#1006 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Nope, I'm good for one more
#1007 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> How.. did you ban yourself?
#1008 [09:40] <Twanaa> i cant
#1009 [09:40] <Twanaa> i was admin
#1010 [09:40] <Twanaa> and i got banned by someone
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#1012 [09:40] <Twanaa> that logged in at an admin name
#1013 [09:41] <Twanaa> People with a hacked client can login at EVERYONES name and them be admin on someoneelse's server.
#1014 [09:41] <Twanaa> So, this is the second time.
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#1016 [09:42] <Twanaa> ISNT THERE ANYTHING
#1017 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> Well, that only works if you turned online-mode set to false...
#1018 [09:42] <xales> ^
#1019 [09:42] <Twanaa> Can't i put a pass on it?
#1020 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> Why aren't you setting online-mode to true in the first place?
#1021 [09:43] <Twanaa> Does it really help?
#1022 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes. It authenticates usernames to minecraft's server.
#1023 [09:43] <mbentley> no, they are just suggesting it for kicks ;)
#1024 [09:43] <mbentley> </sarcasm>
#1025 [09:43] <xales> Twanaa: There is really no reason not to use it, unless the server isn't connected to the internet
#1026 [09:44] <Twanaa> So i can't put a pass on my server.
#1027 [09:44] <xales> It doesn't work like that, no. May I ask why you want it in offline-mode?
#1028 [09:44] <SinZ> banhammer any intruders =P
#1029 [09:45] <NinjaKirby> I learned the server can use Whitelists last night, couldn't you use that?
#1030 [09:45] <SinZ> Twanaa, the serverlists are all optional, you gotta add your server to lists, so online-mode is a must unless you are planning to be doing Play in offline"
#1031 [09:45] <SinZ> "Play in offline mode" in client
#1032 [09:45] <Twanaa> uhu
#1033 [09:46] <Twanaa> ahaa
#1034 [09:46] <Twanaa> ók
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#1036 [09:50] <Twanaa> thanks, and goodbye
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#1038 [09:52] <xales> So..that thing about haing to move the massive NTFS partition..
#1039 [09:53] <xales> aparrantly this is only a simulation, so it will end up doing it again
#1040 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> Hah!
#1041 [09:53] <xales> :'(
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#1043 [10:01] <Coll> 14 hours
#1044 [10:01] <Coll> good job
#1045 [10:02] <xales> Well, maybe the actual move will actually just move the fucking blocks instead of reading the whole disk
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#1047 [10:09] <mbentley> the other day i was swapping hard drives in this pc and i went to copy the partition and it said it would take like 3 hours... then i got smart and just shrank the partition to the 7gb of used space and it took like 15 minutes instead :D
#1048 [10:10] <xales> ._.
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#1050 [10:10] <xales> A similar operation to what I'm doing now, done on an ext4 partition
#1051 [10:10] <xales> took about 15 minutes
#1052 [10:10] <xales> =\
#1053 [10:11] <NinjaKirby> Why are even Local Servers like this, I'm swinging my sword at this zombie, point blank range, and he's not being hit.
#1054 [10:12] <NinjaKirby> RIP Sword
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#1060 [10:35] <FuUzZiioNGaMer> Hallo. leute...
#1061 [10:35] <FuUzZiioNGaMer> Ist jemand hier?
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#1063 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWRS-lDBWrQ
#1064 [10:40] <xales> You should make things like that
#1065 [10:40] <xales> I would be greatly amused
#1066 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> That would require efforty
#1067 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> t
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#1069 [10:42] <Neskuaxa> hey
#1070 [10:42] <Neskuaxa> I have a problem
#1071 [10:43] <Neskuaxa> I start up minecraft.jar on ubuntu
#1072 [10:43] <Neskuaxa> I login
#1073 [10:44] <Neskuaxa> then it goes black after loading and the program closes
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#1075 [10:46] <xales> Using OpenJDK or Sun/Oracle?
#1076 [10:46] <Neskuaxa> JVE 6
#1077 [10:46] <Neskuaxa> I'm sorry JDK6
#1078 [10:47] <mbentley> what does java -version say?
#1079 [10:47] <Neskuaxa> 6
#1080 [10:47] <Neskuaxa> openJDK Java 6 runtime is what I am using to open it
#1081 [10:47] <Neskuaxa> I used it last night
#1082 [10:47] <Neskuaxa> and it worked fine
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#1084 [10:47] <mbentley> delete the ~/.minecraft/bin directory and start it again
#1085 [10:49] <Neskuaxa> which dir is it in/.
#1086 [10:49] <Neskuaxa> ?
#1087 [10:49] <mbentley> ~
#1088 [10:49] <mbentley> ~ = /home/<your username>
#1089 [10:50] <mbentley> if you are using the file browser, it might not show hidden files by default...
#1090 [10:50] <Neskuaxa> k I found it
#1091 [10:51] <Neskuaxa> didn't work.
#1092 [10:51] <Neskuaxa> :/
#1093 [10:52] <mbentley> can you open up a terminal and run minecraft.jar to see if there are any errors?
#1094 [10:53] <Neskuaxa> Exec format error
#1095 [10:53] <xales> How did you run it?
#1096 [10:53] <xales> It should be java -jar minecraft.jat
#1097 [10:53] <xales> .jar*
#1098 [10:53] <xales> not ./minecraft.jar
#1099 [10:53] <Neskuaxa> ooooh
#1100 [10:55] <Neskuaxa> not working
#1101 [10:55] <mbentley> error?
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#1103 [10:55] <Neskuaxa> Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
#1104 [10:55] <mbentley> then you must not be in the same directory as it...
#1105 [10:55] <mbentley> it has to be in the present working directory
#1106 [10:56] <Neskuaxa> okay
#1107 [10:56] <Neskuaxa> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x007415a0, pid=16003, tid=2079419248
#1108 [10:57] <Neskuaxa> # JRE version: 6.0_20-b20 # Java VM: OpenJDK Server VM (19.0-b09 mixed mode linux-x86 ) # Derivative: IcedTea6 1.9.2
#1109 [10:57] <Neskuaxa> thats the error I got in the terminal after I ran the game thru it
#1110 [10:57] <mbentley> hmm ok
#1111 [10:58] <xales> Try using the Sun JVM
#1112 [10:58] <mbentley> ^+1
#1113 [10:59] <Neskuaxa> I'm in the synaptic package manager I can't find it
#1114 [10:59] <mbentley> you will need to enable the 'partner' repository
#1115 [11:00] <mbentley> i really need to get an ubuntu vm...
#1116 [11:00] <mbentley> which ubuntu are you running?
#1117 [11:01] <Neskuaxa> 10.10
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#1119 [11:02] <mbentley> not sure if this is accurate or not... http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/sun-java-finally-uploaded-to-ubuntu.html
#1120 [11:02] <mbentley> To install (Sun) Java in Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat you'll have to enable the Partner repository: open Ubuntu Software Center and go to Edit > Software Sources, then on the "Other Software" enable the Partner repository (it should be the first on the list; it looks like this: "http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner".).
#1121 [11:02] <xales> Its called 'multiverse' now
#1122 [11:03] <Neskuaxa> I've done that
#1123 [11:03] <Neskuaxa> nothing.
#1124 [11:03] <Neskuaxa> I'm going to try this command in the terminal
#1125 [11:03] <Neskuaxa> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sun-java-community-team/sun-java6 sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install sun-java6
#1126 [11:04] <xales> uhh, did you update?
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#1128 [11:05] <xales> also, just do sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
#1129 [11:05] <Neskuaxa> okay
#1130 [11:05] <xales> oh wait, do apt-get update first
#1131 [11:05] <Neskuaxa> doing that right now
#1132 [11:07] <Neskuaxa> OT: Sour patch kids are really good
#1133 [11:08] <Neskuaxa> okay sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre seems to be working its doing its terminal thing
#1134 [11:09] <mbentley> that is a good sign
#1135 [11:09] <Neskuaxa> :D
#1136 [11:10] <Neskuaxa> okay its done
#1137 [11:10] <mbentley> check java -version to make sure it is showing the sun jre
#1138 [11:10] <Neskuaxa> will I be able to just open the minecraft.jar with sun java?
#1139 [11:10] <Neskuaxa> kk
#1140 [11:11] <Neskuaxa> java version "1.6.0_20" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.2) (6b20-1.9.2-0ubuntu2) OpenJDK Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode)
#1141 [11:11] <mbentley> Neskuaxa: do a 'sudo update-alternatives --config java'
#1142 [11:11] <Neskuaxa> keep java sun correct?
#1143 [11:11] <mbentley> you need to select the correct java... it should have 'java-6-sun' in it's path
#1144 [11:12] <Neskuaxa> yep its there
#1145 [11:12] <mbentley> choose that number so it sets it as the default
#1146 [11:12] <Neskuaxa> its default now
#1147 [11:12] <mbentley> verify with 'java -version' and then you should be ok to try again
#1148 [11:13] <Neskuaxa> java version "1.6.0_22" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04) Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode)\
#1149 [11:13] <mbentley> cool
#1150 [11:13] <Neskuaxa> okay
#1151 [11:14] <mbentley> i would run it from the terminal again
#1152 [11:14] <Neskuaxa> okay
#1153 [11:15] <Neskuaxa> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x7edbf5a0, pid=17749, tid=2132388720
#1154 [11:15] <Neskuaxa> # JRE version: 6.0_22-b04 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (17.1-b03 mixed mode linux-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [libGL.so.1+0x6d5a0] XF86DRIQueryExtension+0x8e
#1155 [11:16] <mbentley> sounds like a driver issue
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#1157 [11:16] <Neskuaxa> that is probably it
#1158 [11:16] <Neskuaxa> hang on
#1159 [11:17] <mbentley> i'd make sure you have the restricted drivers installed for your video card if they are available.
#1160 [11:17] <mbentley> restricted/proprietary
#1161 [11:17] <Neskuaxa> they were working
#1162 [11:17] <mbentley> i forget what they call em
#1163 [11:17] <Neskuaxa> I made a stupid move and installed the wrong drivers
#1164 [11:17] <Neskuaxa> so no games work at all now
#1165 [11:17] <mbentley> ah
#1166 [11:18] <mbentley> might be a good idea to disable then reenable them
#1167 [11:18] <Neskuaxa> yep
#1168 [11:19] <Neskuaxa> I had ATI drivers installed when I have an intel video card
#1169 [11:19] <Neskuaxa> :P
#1170 [11:20] <Neskuaxa> its working now
#1171 [11:20] <Neskuaxa> stupid me
#1172 [11:20] <Neskuaxa> thanks for all the help
#1173 [11:21] <mbentley> yay
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#1175 [11:22] <mbentley> at least he was able to help himself a bit there :D
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#1180 [11:45] <TheReddeH> lo
#1181 [11:47] <TheReddeH> If people were meant to pop out of bed, we'd all sleep in toasters. < i laughed :>
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#1188 [12:05] <xserf> Hello, is there a demo of Minecraft I can play to see if works ok on my system/ if its fun
#1189 [12:05] <lemon-rev> get minecraft classic
#1190 [12:05] <mbentley> there is the minecraft classic on minecraft.net. not really sure how similar performance wise they are though as i have never played classic myself
#1191 [12:06] <lemon-rev> mbentley dont you sleep ?
#1192 [12:06] <mbentley> sleep?
#1193 [12:06] * mbentley googles this 'sleep' thing
#1193 [12:06] <lemon-rev> [04:07] <+mbentley> sleep? < am
#1194 [12:07] <lemon-rev> lol
#1195 [12:07] <mbentley> 12:06 <+mbentley> sleep?
#1196 [12:07] <lemon-rev> hm
#1197 [12:07] <lemon-rev> that am or pm
#1198 [12:07] <mbentley> PM
#1199 [12:07] <lemon-rev> i see
#1200 [12:07] * mbentley is in the US
#1200 [12:07] <lemon-rev> so its afternoon there
#1201 [12:07] <lemon-rev> ok
#1202 [12:07] <mbentley> indeed
#1203 [12:07] <lemon-rev> nice suff
#1204 [12:07] <lemon-rev> stuff*
#1205 [12:07] * mbentley wonders why you are awake at 4 am... lol
#1205 [12:07] <lemon-rev> cant sleep too hot and too bothered to sleep got 6 hours in
#1206 [12:08] <lemon-rev> its 20 c + here, thats like almost what yu call 70 f over there
#1207 [12:08] <mbentley> Temperature: 28.0 F (-2.2 C)
#1208 [12:09] <mbentley> heat wave :)
#1209 [12:09] <lemon-rev> hm, no , cause you go by farenhight
#1210 [12:09] <lemon-rev> or someshit
#1211 [12:09] <lemon-rev> i know
#1212 [12:09] <lemon-rev> its 70 f your way in temp wise
#1213 [12:09] <lemon-rev> compared to our 20 c
#1214 [12:09] <lemon-rev> !weather canberra
#1215 [12:09] <GreyBot> lemon-rev: From Canberra, Capital Territory (4:00a Jan 27 11) temp(70 F / 21 C) cond(Overcast) wind(NE at 4 mph / 6 km/h) hu(100%) dewpnt(70 F / 21 C) bp(29.98 in / 1015 hPa (Falling)) clouds(Overcast (OVC) : 2700 ft / 822 m) vis(6.2 miles / 10.0 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#1216 [12:09] <GreyBot> Wednesday: Unknown. High: 98 F.
#1217 [12:10] <mbentley> lol @ 'unknown'
#1218 [12:10] <lemon-rev> u get that :)
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#1220 [12:11] <netherian> mornin' guys
#1221 [12:11] <lemon-rev> morn netherian
#1222 [12:11] <lemon-rev> oh
#1223 [12:11] <lemon-rev> lol
#1224 [12:11] <aetherian> haha
#1225 [12:11] <lemon-rev> sorry aetherian
#1226 [12:11] <aetherian> netherian's my night name
#1227 [12:12] <TheReddeH> why
#1228 [12:12] <lemon-rev> dont have a night name since lemons normally dont sleep :P, but this one does lol
#1229 [12:12] <mbentley> i just always keep the same name... it would sorta hurt me in idlerpg if i kept changing my nickname :)
#1230 [12:13] <aetherian> hehehe
#1231 [12:14] <aetherian> lh, I change my name occasionally as the occasion calls for it
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#1235 [12:16] <Karl> Hey all. Quick question. Quite new to Minecraft. When we get an update, does it update all of our current maps? Ie, will I find Lapis Lazuli or do I need to start a new world for that?
#1236 [12:16] <aetherian> new world, or
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#1238 [12:16] <aetherian> go into places you have not been, or
#1239 [12:16] <aetherian> download a mod I saw on the forums
#1240 [12:16] <aetherian> that adds the ores to the ground
#1241 [12:17] <aetherian> hey uh, anyone know where esper.net server is located?
#1242 [12:17] <Karl> Yeah. I found new trees etc on a new chunk earlier. I'm getting mobs in my current chunk, just not world objects. I thought it was. Just wanted that confirmation. Ta :)
#1243 [12:20] <lemon-rev> does the new trees say generate if i go further in my map and find a new chunk on an old map or would i have to toally start again like i have done to show friends the game from scratch ?
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#1245 [12:22] <aetherian> just go really far
#1246 [12:22] <lemon-rev> i see
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#1248 [12:25] <TheReddeH> and if that doesnt work, go really really far
#1249 [12:25] <lemon-rev> troule with this map i have gone really really deep and like gone into too many tunnels and im trying to figure out what to do with how to find ways back to get out lol
#1250 [12:26] <aetherian> tip: just run really really far
#1251 [12:26] <aetherian> whilst laying minetracks the whole way
#1252 [12:26] <aetherian> when you get to the end
#1253 [12:26] <aetherian> set up a circle booster
#1254 [12:26] <aetherian> and you can get back
#1255 [12:26] <lemon-rev> lol, tip : how to run in a game that allows one to two walking paces and one is okish and the other is like a moving tutle
#1256 [12:27] <lemon-rev> hum, well first off i need an end to call an end , i have far too many and far too many up's and downs in this one huge cave system
#1257 [12:28] <lemon-rev> i could make a rail system around it, but i think it would be one hella ride to get from one end to the other and you get too dizzy by the end of it lol
#1258 [12:28] <aetherian> who here still plays classic
#1259 [12:35] <xserf> has minecraft classic been pulled from the main site?
#1260 [12:36] <Karl> Kev. The map is split into sectors called Chunks. They are generated as you enter them, so in my case, the new content, new trees, ores etc, will only spawn on newly generated chunks. Same with you. Shame we cannot move our spawn points. I have an sweet base, and it's dangerous to go too far looking for the new features. :(
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#1263 [12:38] <xolotl> Karl: You can use various map editors to change your spawn, btw
#1264 [12:39] <xolotl> It'd be nice if there was something in the terrain generator to try and automatically "stitch" together old terrain and new terrain, when generating
#1265 [12:40] <xolotl> I'd love to crop my world down to just the area that I've built on and have new terrain all around it, but the algorithms don't usually produce output that's at all similar
#1266 [12:40] <xolotl> So you've usually got sheer cliff faces at the boundary between the two
#1267 [12:42] <NinjaKirby> Does that result from two Nether Gate regions connecting together as well? You move say 50 Nether blocks away, so the new Normal World generation isn't connected with your original point.
#1268 [12:42] <NinjaKirby> I have wondered how well it meshes the gap together
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#1270 [12:46] <Karl> Hey all. Is anyone else getting portals to The Nether spawning randomly on their maps? Is there a reason for this? Is it safe to get the free Obsidian without destroying my main portal?
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#1272 [12:47] <aetherian> o_O
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#1274 [12:49] <lemon-rev> the spawning of the portal you need to read up on that, yuo can find it, all over the place
#1275 [12:49] <[JD]> oblivion portals!
#1276 [12:49] <lemon-rev> however mineing obsidian you can mine at free will
#1277 [12:49] <lemon-rev> hm
#1278 [12:49] <lemon-rev> jb, no
#1279 [12:49] <lemon-rev> there to hell yes but not to oblivaian lol
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#1281 [12:55] <aetherian> why does MC classic keep breaking?
#1282 [12:55] <feenyx> because it's no longer supported, and not being fixed. Forever Alpha
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#1288 [13:06] <HELP> OK so i made an account to play the free trail...but i cant log in...what do i do?
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#1290 [13:07] <helpme> OK so i made an account to play the free trail...but i cant log in...what do i do?
#1291 [13:07] <some1> hi. when it'll be able to upload skins?
#1292 [13:08] <helpme> OK so i made an account to play the free trail...but i cant log in...what do i do?
#1293 [13:08] <feenyx> some1: whenever Mojang announces that the server systems for it are fixed
#1294 [13:08] <feenyx> helpme: are you logged in to minecraft.net ?
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#1300 [13:47] <bacon> stupid bot
#1301 [13:47] * GreyBot bonks bacon, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#1301 [13:47] * bacon attacks GreyBot
#1301 [13:48] * bacon slaps GreyBot with itself
#1301 [13:48] * GreyBot growls and goes kung-fu on bacon.
#1301 [13:48] <bacon> Bad GreyBot!
#1302 [13:48] * GreyBot whimpers.
#1302 [13:48] <bacon> xD
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#1304 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> !greyoff
#1305 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> >.>
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#1307 [13:53] <Frolige> Hello
#1308 [13:53] <Frolige> Can anyone try to connect to my server and check if its working
#1309 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#1310 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> 77.248.121.227?
#1311 [13:54] <Frolige> yep
#1312 [13:54] <bacon> GreyVulpine: Is that like an insult? Grey off man
#1313 [13:54] <Frolige> Howd you get my ip lol
#1314 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> This IRCd doesn't support hostmasks
#1315 [13:54] <bacon> there's a zero at the start!
#1316 [13:55] <Frolige> lol
#1317 [13:55] <Frolige> K so can you try to connect? Port: 25565
#1318 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> One sec
#1319 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> !check 77.248.121.227
#1320 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, neither aubot, nor myself can connect
#1321 [13:56] <Frolige> ..
#1322 [13:56] <Frolige> So he can't like find me?
#1323 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarded?
#1324 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Checked firewall?
#1325 [13:56] <Frolige> yup
#1326 [13:56] <Frolige> yup
#1327 [13:56] <Frolige> off
#1328 [13:56] <Frolige> Although windows 7 is acting a bit weird
#1329 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Define weird
#1330 [13:57] <Frolige> I put off all three of them, like the public and private ones aswell, but after every restart they're back on.
#1331 [13:57] <Frolige> But I allowed any inboudn / outbound connections
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#1333 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1334 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Okay..
#1335 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Local IP?
#1336 [13:58] <Frolige> What do you mean?
#1337 [13:58] <Frolige> The 192 one?
#1338 [13:58] <IceGuest_77_> So I downloaded minecraft.exe, I run it, and It just says I'm not premium and gives me the 'try again' option... Is minecraft pay only now?
#1339 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1340 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> IceGuest_77 - Alpha/beta has always been pay only
#1341 [13:58] <IceGuest_77_> Is there a non pay version to try the game out on?
#1342 [13:58] <Frolige> 192.168.1.57
#1343 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> There's classic mode, which doesn't have survival/crafting
#1344 [13:59] <IceGuest_77_> IC
#1345 [13:59] <IceGuest_77_> Thanks
#1346 [13:59] <TheReddeH> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/2680-Minecraft
#1347 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Frolige - And you've port forwarded from your router to that IP correctly?
#1348 [13:59] <Frolige> Yes
#1349 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Port 25565/TCP
#1350 [13:59] <Frolige> Only tcp?
#1351 [13:59] <Frolige> Cuz i got it tcp/udp
#1352 [14:00] <Frolige> Maybe my router is fking it up and putting it to tcp fixes it?
#1353 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't matter, right now, minecraft only uses TCP
#1354 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> no
#1355 [14:00] <Frolige> no whaT?
#1356 [14:00] <Frolige> Minecraftt 25565 25565 192.168.1.57 <<-- copy from router port
#1357 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to change it to TCP only
#1358 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your router's status page, make sure the public IP is the same as what you get from www.whatismyip.com ?
#1359 [14:01] <Frolige> 77.248.121.227
#1360 [14:01] <Frolige> So yep
#1361 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then it's the computer...
#1362 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Any other security software on it?
#1363 [14:01] <Frolige> avg
#1364 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> the antivirus only?
#1365 [14:02] <Frolige> microsoft security essentials
#1366 [14:02] <Frolige> yeah the free version of avg, so not plus with the firewall
#1367 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Okay, can you go to your start menu, type in "firewall.cpl" at the search/run box
#1368 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Make sure windows firewall is down
#1369 [14:03] <Frolige> so yeah like the home or work (priavte networks) is on, same for public networks but when i go to advanced, it says at domain profile hat windows firewall is off
#1370 [14:04] <Frolige> but putting private and public off doesn't make any sense because they put theirselves on again
#1371 [14:04] * GreyVulpine headtilts
#1371 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Um...
#1372 [14:05] <Frolige> oh and for the information
#1373 [14:05] <Frolige> hamachi does work..
#1374 [14:06] <[ssen]> Did someone say my name in this channel?
#1375 [14:06] * GreyVulpine nods
#1375 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1376 [14:06] <Frolige> but pinging when that person is not ingame is like around 70 ms, but when he is ingame it makes jumps to 300 and 400 ms
#1377 [14:06] <Frolige> and it's really laggy
#1378 [14:06] <[ssen]> Or wait, it was prolly that nate guy again.
#1379 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Frolige - It most likely is windows firewall then, I don't know why that's like that
#1380 [14:07] <Frolige> ..
#1381 [14:07] <Frolige> ok well i put all of them completely down again
#1382 [14:07] <Frolige> you can try to connect again
#1383 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Nothing here.
#1384 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> !check 77.248.121.227
#1385 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1386 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Want to try a different method?
#1387 [14:08] <Frolige> Like what?
#1388 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> In your search/run box, type in: services.msc
#1389 [14:08] <MK> what does AuBot do?
#1390 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> A few things, !check is just to see if a TCP connection can be made to that IP
#1391 [14:08] <MK> Ah cool
#1392 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> IE, seeing if a minecraft server is reachable
#1393 [14:09] <Frolige> k im there
#1394 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Look for Windows Firewall
#1395 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> When you see it, right click, stop
#1396 [14:09] <Frolige> uhu
#1397 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Has the service stopped?
#1398 [14:10] <Frolige> yes
#1399 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> !check 77.248.121.227
#1400 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#1401 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you don't have any other third party security software that also have a firewall component?
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#1403 [14:11] <Frolige> well i have microsoft essentials but i dont think that it has a firewall
#1404 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> I don't know.'
#1405 [14:12] <Frolige> I can also see that punkbuster is running(lol) Might that block it?
#1406 [14:12] <Frolige> well i stopped the service so you can try again
#1407 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Can't connect
#1408 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> And punkbuster doesn't do that.
#1409 [14:13] <mbentley> MSE doesn't include a firewall because windows has a firewall itself
#1410 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> What else could be blocking an incoming connection on that PC..
#1411 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> If you've got port forwarding set up correctly, it's gotta be the PC.
#1412 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> What windows are you running?
#1413 [14:14] <Frolige> 7 ultimate
#1414 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
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#1417 [14:15] <SPINIZO> Hello?
#1418 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> if you right click on your network icon in the task bar, go to your network center...
#1419 [14:15] <Frolige> but then, using hamachi wouldnt be a problem.. but when playing the game the ping just goes skyhigh and the lag is almost implayabe ( for them not for me ofcourse) so do you have any experience with that?
#1420 [14:15] <SPINIZO> Does someone knows about FPS problems? PM me.
#1421 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> What is the domain set to? private? public?
#1422 [14:15] <feenyx> GreyVulpine: or just go Run -> ncpa.cpl
#1423 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Ah, thanks.
#1424 [14:15] <Frolige> home network
#1425 [14:17] <Frolige> i still think there might be a firewall on my router but i couldnt find it before lol
#1426 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Brand/model of router?
#1427 [14:18] <Frolige> netgear wnd3700
#1428 [14:18] <SPINIZO> I have a huge FPS problem in Minecraft! :(
#1429 [14:18] <SPINIZO> My computer is not the best but its fine for me.
#1430 [14:18] <SPINIZO> HD 5750
#1431 [14:18] <SPINIZO> 2(?) 2.13 gz
#1432 [14:18] <SPINIZO> 2 GB ram
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#1436 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> I don't see any other security features in your netgear router that you would need to set up, just port forwarding should be fine
#1437 [14:21] <Frolige> yez..
#1438 [14:21] <Frolige> i really dont konw what else could be blocking
#1439 [14:22] <Frolige> ive been trying to get it for work with days
#1440 [14:22] <Frolige> but what about hamachi, do you have any experience on why it lags a lot when playing minecraft?
#1441 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> it's hamachi
#1442 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> It's to be expected with a VPN program
#1443 [14:23] <Frolige> hm
#1444 [14:23] <Frolige> do you maybe know a faster alternative vpn
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#1446 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope
#1447 [14:25] <nipper> omg this is funny http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/2680-Minecraft
#1448 [14:26] <Frolige> `but then.. do you have any idea on how to fix it?
#1449 [14:26] <Frolige> I mean.. is reinstalling my pc so i don't have any 3rd party apps anymore, a possible solution?
#1450 [14:27] <Frolige> I will do that if you are 100% sure it isn't my router and thus it can only be my pc
#1451 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> I can't be 100% sure without looking..
#1452 [14:30] <Frolige> looking?
#1453 [14:31] <Frolige> can you !check me again
#1454 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> !check 77.248.121.227
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#1457 [14:32] <KillSpammer> :O
#1458 [14:32] <KillSpammer> NEW RULE?
#1459 [14:32] <KillSpammer> We reserve the right to deny support to anyone, for any reason <-- YAY!
#1460 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> That's always been there
#1461 [14:32] <Intel_iX> Is there a channel for modding support?
#1462 [14:33] <Frolige> ok one more time k?
#1463 [14:33] <KillSpammer> :O
#1464 [14:33] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#1465 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Intel_iX - #Risucraft
#1466 [14:33] <KillSpammer> Guess i changed my colours and it stood out more
#1467 [14:33] <KillSpammer> Dammit i could of used that in peoples face so more
#1468 [14:33] <KillSpammer> Anyway
#1469 [14:33] <Frolige> check me please
#1470 [14:33] <KillSpammer> My net refreshed
#1471 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> !check 77.248.121.227
#1472 [14:33] <KillSpammer> So more bleach anime :)
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#1474 [14:34] <gaRt3n> hey is the server to auth offline?
#1475 [14:34] * KillSpammer GreyBot dammit /msg won't work :(
#1475 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, nope
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#1477 [14:35] <gaRt3n> its seems that im not able to change my passwort
#1478 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> oh?
#1479 [14:35] <KillSpammer> Hmm...
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#1481 [14:35] <gaRt3n> 500 Servlet Exception
#1482 [14:35] <gaRt3n> [show] com.mysql.jdbc.exceptions.jdbc4.MySQLSyntaxErrorException: You have an
#1483 [14:35] <gaRt3n> error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL
#1484 [14:35] <gaRt3n> server version for the right syntax to use near 'currentserver=nullWHERE
#1485 [14:35] <gaRt3n> name='Saskia1989'' at line 1
#1486 [14:35] <KillSpammer> Hey Miclee
#1487 [14:35] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#1488 [14:35] <KillSpammer> Pastebin.com
#1489 [14:36] <gaRt3n> ya sry
#1490 [14:36] * GreyVulpine pokes mollstam
#1490 [14:36] <KillSpammer> I could proberly get jeb
#1491 [14:36] <dopeghoti> lools like a missing space.
#1492 [14:36] <dopeghoti> s/lW/l W/
#1493 [14:36] <KillSpammer> :O dopeghoti
#1494 [14:37] <gaRt3n> there is no space
#1495 [14:37] <gaRt3n> i tried it twice
#1496 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> No, not on your end gaRt3n
#1497 [14:37] * dopeghoti means in the SQL query.
#1497 [14:37] <gaRt3n> ah okay ;)
#1498 [14:38] <dopeghoti> also, currentserver=NULL could be an issue, not sure about the full context.
#1499 [14:38] <gaRt3n> and im not able to login because the login does not apear
#1500 [14:38] <KillSpammer> gart3n download the minecraft.exe or whatever again
#1501 [14:39] <gaRt3n> tried both ^^
#1502 [14:39] <gaRt3n> here the full sql error
#1503 [14:39] <gaRt3n> http://nopaste.info/23d88f7742.html
#1504 [14:42] * dopeghoti reads some of @jeb_'s feed, and REALLY hopes that the new save format is SQL
#1504 [14:42] <dopeghoti> MySQL, SQLite, PostreSQL, just, please, not MSSQL, hhe
#1505 [14:44] <gaRt3n> xD
#1506 [14:44] <dopeghoti> "Huh, griefing arsonists? UPDATE block SET block.type_id = ( SELECT id from type WHERE type.description='Air' ) WHERE block.type_id = ( SELECT id from type where type.description='Fire' );"
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#1508 [14:47] <Altitudes> Hey guys.
#1509 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> 'allo
#1510 [14:47] <Altitudes> I have a question.
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#1512 [14:47] <dopeghoti> We have answers and are often willing to trade.
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#1514 [14:48] <Altitudes> I tried creating my own spawner trap, by making a dark room without a spawner. My idea was to have just darkness so I could get creepers, zombies, and spiders all in one. How large does the space need to be? It isn't working. And yes, I've googled to my heart's content.
#1515 [14:49] <NinjaKirby> I would ask the same question, my fairly large Stone building, complete darkness within with running water to channel them completely failed as well XD
#1516 [14:50] <Altitudes> Grrr, I was so excited for this. I've had zombies spawn in structures before...
#1517 [14:50] <NinjaKirby> I think mine failed in room height per floor, about 5 squares I left per floor
#1518 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> Altitudes: what is the floor of the structure?
#1519 [14:50] <Altitudes> stone
#1520 [14:50] <Altitudes> and dirt
#1521 [14:50] <NinjaKirby> Cobblestone I guess, as opposed to stone
#1522 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> And it's not entirely covered in running water?
#1523 [14:50] <Altitudes> no, just one side is.
#1524 [14:51] <Altitudes> how much room does it need for them to spawn?
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#1526 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> I'd say a 16x16 area would be plenty big. Also, mobs will never spawn within 24 blocks of you, so if you're standing next to it, nothing will ever spawn inside.
#1527 [14:52] <Altitudes> how much vertical room?
#1528 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> in theory as little as three blocks' height.
#1529 [14:52] <bacon> BACON IS BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH
#1530 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> potentially two.
#1531 [14:52] <Altitudes> ok
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#1533 [14:52] <Altitudes> I'll make it 16x16
#1534 [14:52] <Altitudes> thanks
#1535 [14:52] <NinjaKirby> Nice info, now I know why mine doesn't work
#1536 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> g'luck
#1537 [14:52] <Altitudes> ;D TY
#1538 [14:53] <NinjaKirby> Aye, thanks Dope :3
#1539 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> that'll be $8. Each.
#1540 [14:53] <xaviergmail> im at school and when i run minecraft it says it cant find the main class what can I do
#1541 [14:53] * NinjaKirby starts Paypaling
#1541 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> \o/
#1542 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> xaviergmail: try running it in the right classroom? (:
#1543 [14:53] <NinjaKirby> lawl
#1544 [14:54] <xaviergmail> these bitches blocked everything D:
#1545 [14:54] <xaviergmail> i used to be able to use netuser to change admin`s pass
#1546 [14:54] <xaviergmail> and play
#1547 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> Try the computers in the CAD lab, at least there you could potentially claim that Minecraft is a drafting aid.
#1548 [14:54] <xaviergmail> but doesent work now
#1549 [14:54] <KillSpammer> My school claims that minecraftclassic is educational
#1550 [14:55] <KillSpammer> But minecraft beta not?
#1551 [14:55] <xaviergmail> lol
#1552 [14:55] <KillSpammer> Most of them can't tell them apart
#1553 [14:55] * DopeGhoti , for one, will not aid you in getting around what is clearly your school's computer policy.
#1553 [14:55] <xaviergmail> fail
#1554 [14:55] <KillSpammer> So i can just play it anyway
#1555 [14:55] <xaviergmail> ..
#1556 [14:56] <NinjaKirby> Leave it running at home, Remote Desktop, or something
#1557 [14:57] <xaviergmail> im on teamviewer
#1558 [14:57] <xaviergmail> i get like 5 fps
#1559 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft via RDP? *snrk* yeah, that'd run well
#1560 [14:57] <xaviergmail> and i cant even mopve
#1561 [14:57] <NinjaKirby> I've never used remote desktop in my live
#1562 [14:57] <xaviergmail> :/
#1563 [14:57] <NinjaKirby> .. Life, so I dunno what performance would be like
#1564 [14:57] <NinjaKirby> Purchase laptop, do whatever you want. That's my last and most expensive solution.
#1565 [14:58] <NinjaKirby> Then 3G Dongle it
#1566 [14:58] <NinjaKirby> I guess he didn't like that suggestion
#1567 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> "gee, what a shame."
#1568 [15:00] <NinjaKirby> Not a good idea anyway, I spent so many College hours playing NEStron is wasn't productive
#1569 [15:00] <NinjaKirby> I was pretty good at speedrunning Super Mario in the end, beating it through on Game Mode A and B XD
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#1571 [15:01] <KillSpammer> Mojang talk count: Carl: 3 Kapp: 2 Jnkboy: 0 C148: 2 Notch: 2 JahKob: 3 Mollstam: 2
#1572 [15:01] <KillSpammer> :)
#1573 [15:01] <NinjaKirby> "Talk count"?
#1574 [15:01] <KillSpammer> How many times i've talked to them
#1575 [15:01] <KillSpammer> I forgot jeb lol
#1576 [15:01] <KillSpammer> Twitter talking count basically
#1577 [15:01] <KillSpammer> Jeb is about 4 ish
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#1579 [15:02] <KillSpammer> But i've talk to him heaps on a secret channel
#1580 [15:02] <KillSpammer> Notch a few times but meh...
#1581 [15:04] <KillSpammer> gaRt3n, I'm asking mollstam well Kapp to foward to mollstam the password problem you had :)
#1582 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> How many times _@you_ have tweeted @them, how how many time _@they_ have tweeted @you?
#1583 [15:05] <KillSpammer> Thats how many time theyve replied i guess
#1584 [15:05] <KillSpammer> Never actually directly tweeted lol
#1585 [15:05] <KillSpammer> I've tweeted them ima say 100-200 times
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#1587 [15:14] <KillSpammer> gaRt3n, Your problem has been fixed: @Killspammer @kappische Fixed! Deploying in about 5 min. from mollstam
#1588 [15:15] <mollstam> Better believe it.
#1589 [15:15] <mollstam> : )
#1590 [15:15] <KillSpammer> OH CRAP TIS MOLLSTAMZ
#1591 [15:16] <KillSpammer> Well hai anyway.
#1592 [15:17] <mollstam> EHEHEHE
#1593 [15:17] <mollstam> What's up? :)
#1594 [15:17] <KillSpammer> Sir.
#1595 [15:17] <KillSpammer> Not much hrm...
#1596 [15:17] <KillSpammer> I've been talking to myself for a while
#1597 [15:17] <KillSpammer> Since noone cares about me :(
#1598 [15:18] <mollstam> Well I guess you get that a lot
#1599 [15:18] <KillSpammer> What do you mean by that :(
#1600 [15:18] <mollstam> >__>
#1601 [15:18] <KillSpammer> I just stalk the mojang team...
#1602 [15:19] <KillSpammer> And acidently send killspammer.net links to people and pretend it was an acident
#1603 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> mollstam: Greetings, and thanks for all your hard work the past week or two; I'm sure it's been a series of trials.
#1604 [15:20] <mollstam> Yo
#1605 [15:20] <mollstam> Thanks. : )
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#1607 [15:20] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#1608 [15:20] <mollstam> Mostly it's triage, holding off features to prioritize others :v
#1609 [15:20] <finefin> hi there
#1610 [15:20] <mollstam> But I look forward to actual development :)
#1611 [15:20] <mollstam> hey finefin
#1612 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> I can imagine :) I can't wait to see what's coming down the pike, and I don't even know what it is (:
#1613 [15:21] <KillSpammer> So mollstam, considering adding bios of the mojang team to the website?
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#1615 [15:21] <finefin> a friend of mine showed me minecraft today but it was... a pirated copy -_-
#1616 [15:21] <KillSpammer> I would write them for you except theres virtually no information on the interwebz
#1617 [15:21] <KillSpammer> finefin, meh we can't do anything about it...
#1618 [15:21] <KillSpammer> Except...
#1619 [15:22] <KillSpammer> Mollstam grab his ip and ban ban ban ba ban
#1620 [15:22] <finefin> I really want to buy the game now, but I dont have a paypal account nor a credit card
#1621 [15:22] <finefin> and my friend wants to buy it too
#1622 [15:22] <finefin> but same problem
#1623 [15:22] <finefin> any suggestions?
#1624 [15:22] <KillSpammer> Move to sweden
#1625 [15:22] <KillSpammer> go to there office
#1626 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> finefin: Take some cash to a bank, open an account?
#1627 [15:23] <KillSpammer> And pay them there :)
#1628 [15:23] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1629 [15:23] <KillSpammer> Or that
#1630 [15:23] <finefin> okay. i do have an bank account that is capable of moving money
#1631 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> finefin: good- link it to PayPal and you're good to go!
#1632 [15:23] <mollstam> we'll probably support bank accounts in the near future
#1633 [15:24] <finefin> where do I send the money?
#1634 [15:24] <mollstam> don't you have like a parent who can buy you gift codes?
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#1636 [15:24] <finefin> i do not want to use paypal
#1637 [15:24] <finefin> i AM a parent ;)
#1638 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> finefin: Ah. Can your bank issue a debit card? That should work as an alternative.
#1639 [15:24] <finefin> it an ideological thing... paypal... credit cards...
#1640 [15:25] <mollstam> :D
#1641 [15:25] <mollstam> I see
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#1643 [15:25] <mollstam> Do you always pay stuff in cash? :o
#1644 [15:25] <Sciencefish> Hi, I am having some trouble with running Minecraft on my Ubuntu 10.10 system. Anyone in here run Linux that might be able to help?
#1645 [15:26] <finefin> debit card...? hmm...
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#1647 [15:27] <finefin> yeah most of the stuff i buy are non virtual goods
#1648 [15:27] <SkiingPenguins> like food!
#1649 [15:27] <finefin> exactly
#1650 [15:28] <KillSpammer> And penguins!
#1651 [15:28] <Misan> penguins for minecraftß
#1652 [15:28] <Misan> good idea.
#1653 [15:29] <KillSpammer> Hrm...
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#1655 [15:30] <Roenie> what version should i go for?
#1656 [15:30] <KillSpammer> The latest?
#1657 [15:30] <Roenie> of craftbukkit that is
#1658 [15:30] <finefin> i can move money by cable...
#1659 [15:30] <KillSpammer> THe latest?
#1660 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> Roenie: no mod support here.
#1661 [15:30] <Roenie> sry wrong chan
#1662 [15:31] <KillSpammer> DopeGhoti, we can still support people with it
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#1665 [15:34] <DraGonKniGht20> So I'm getting this odd..targeting issue, is how I could best describe it
#1666 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> Could you elaborate?
#1667 [15:35] <DraGonKniGht20> Like If I look right at a block, I dont target it, instead I interact with the block behind it.
#1668 [15:35] <DraGonKniGht20> Then if I sidestep and look at the block next to it, but at an angle where if block 2 was not present, I end up targeting block 1
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#1670 [15:36] <KillSpammer> Mollstam left :(
#1671 [15:36] <DraGonKniGht20> like I'm targeting through block 2 to block 1
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#1673 [15:37] <DraGonKniGht20> Kind of get what I'm saying?
#1674 [15:37] <KillSpammer> I think
#1675 [15:37] <KillSpammer> Its scary :S
#1676 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> DraGonKniGht20: so it's as though the blocks closest do you do not exist?
#1677 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> I've not seen that before; not sure what to day.
#1678 [15:37] <DraGonKniGht20> Yea
#1679 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> or say.
#1680 [15:37] <KillSpammer> Reinstall :S
#1681 [15:38] <KillSpammer> That uhh bug is scary
#1682 [15:38] <KillSpammer> *runs*
#1683 [15:38] <DraGonKniGht20> and I've even backed off to my range limit and it still doesnt target
#1684 [15:38] <DraGonKniGht20> it doesnt do it with every single block, just random ones or small groups of 3-4
#1685 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> Ihave seen a similar issue where there will be blocks that I cannot see.. reconnecting usually solves it.
#1686 [15:39] <DraGonKniGht20> Not for me
#1687 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> It hasn't happened for a while though.. That's really strange.
#1688 [15:39] <DraGonKniGht20> even restarted the client and all
#1689 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> this on- or offline?
#1690 [15:40] <DraGonKniGht20> online on a friends server
#1691 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> Any mods on the server or your client?
#1692 [15:40] <DraGonKniGht20> no and would a painterly gfx pack count?
#1693 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> not if it's just dropped into the textures directory
#1694 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#1695 [15:41] <DraGonKniGht20> then no
#1696 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> Even so, I'd try reinstalling the client
#1697 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> ~reinstall
#1698 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#1699 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> ^ Do this; that will re-issue you the binaries
#1700 [15:41] <DraGonKniGht20> alright
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#1702 [15:50] <DraGonKniGht20> o.o
#1703 [15:51] <DraGonKniGht20> It still is happening
#1704 [15:54] <LordEddi> Can you activate hellworld in an exsisting world?
#1705 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1706 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Just turns everything into the nether
#1707 [15:55] <LordEddi> aight, thanks :)
#1708 [15:55] <KillSpammer> I don't advise having maps with ghasts and such
#1709 [15:55] <KillSpammer> Giant forest fires :S
#1710 [15:59] <Kealper> i legitly lold hard at this week's Zero Punctuation
#1711 [16:00] <KillSpammer> Ahh Kealper you missed mollstam.
#1712 [16:00] <LordEddi> yeah xD
#1713 [16:00] <Kealper> did he do something stupid?
#1714 [16:00] <KillSpammer> Wel...
#1715 [16:00] <KillSpammer> Via twitter i got him to fix a password reset problem
#1716 [16:00] <TheReddeH> when did he ever not do anyhting stupid
#1717 [16:01] <KillSpammer> So he fixed his stupid problem
#1718 [16:01] <Kealper> oh...you made it sound like he did something that i should have been there for >.>
#1719 [16:01] <Gando> i'm just now watching the zero punctuation
#1720 [16:01] <Gando> first one i''ve ever seen
#1721 [16:01] <TheReddeH> :)
#1722 [16:02] <Gando> 6-button wireless mouse with tits
#1723 [16:02] <TheReddeH> id buy that
#1724 [16:02] <TheReddeH> and im not even a geek
#1725 [16:02] <TheReddeH> =]\
#1726 [16:02] <KillSpammer> Anyone seen those cusion boob mouse thingys
#1727 [16:03] <KillSpammer> mouse pads
#1728 [16:03] <NinjaKirby> I'm using one, quite comfortable, just like a regular Wrist Rest I'm sure
#1729 [16:03] <Gando> oh god
#1730 [16:03] <Gando> "WHY ARE MY INTESTINES OVER THERE NOW?
#1731 [16:03] <Gando> "
#1732 [16:04] <Gando> gah, I hate leaving off the second "
#1733 [16:04] <NinjaKirby> I hate it when people Open brackets and never close them, the way my mind reads it, it tails odd and it's like WTF
#1734 [16:04] * KillSpammer relocates Gando's intestines to a fire.
#1734 [16:04] <NinjaKirby> *Tails off
#1735 [16:05] <KillSpammer> NinjaKirby, eventually they will close
#1736 [16:05] <KillSpammer> Over years and yyears
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#1738 [16:05] <Gando> "enough coal to black up the entire ku-klux-klan"
#1739 [16:05] <Gando> lawdy
#1740 [16:06] <Gando> kamikaze shrubs
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#1742 [16:08] <NinjaKirby> Why is it some Mob Spawners produce creatures that instantly desire to kill you, and others don't know you're there and just die in your installed Farming system.
#1743 [16:09] <Gando> just to piss you off
#1744 [16:09] <KillSpammer> ^
#1745 [16:09] <KillSpammer> Its true
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#1747 [16:10] <NinjaKirby> Notch has a twisted sense of Humour to programme that in
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#1762 [17:10] <Armalitex> can anyone assist me with a block laying problem?
#1763 [17:11] <Armalitex> it started happening today, MC was running a bit slower than usual and every time i click once it will lay down 2-3 blocks
#1764 [17:11] <SkiingPenguins> that happens to me
#1765 [17:12] <SkiingPenguins> all the time
#1766 [17:12] <Armalitex> so its common
#1767 [17:12] <Armalitex> ?
#1768 [17:12] <SkiingPenguins> i dont know
#1769 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> sounds like MouseButtonUp events aren't getting caught by the client
#1770 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> similar to KeyUp events missing (aka the 'stuck key' issue)
#1771 [17:19] <Gando> WOOO
#1772 [17:19] <Armalitex> any clue when skins will be avaliable again?
#1773 [17:22] <bacon> Armalitex: They are available as of a few hours ago
#1774 [17:22] <Armalitex> =D why thank you
#1775 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> Why thank bacon? Becuse bacon answered your question, perhaps? (:
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#1777 [17:35] <mib_qnpix4> hello?
#1778 [17:35] <xales> hello
#1779 [17:35] <mib_qnpix4> ...
#1780 [17:35] <mib_qnpix4> r the servers down?
#1781 [17:36] <mib_qnpix4> it says 500 Servlet Exception when i click multiplayer
#1782 [17:36] <xales> no, they work fine
#1783 [17:36] <mib_qnpix4> what does that mean tho?
#1784 [17:36] <xales> what is the exception?
#1785 [17:36] <mib_qnpix4> this is what it says: java.sql.SQLException: Parameter index out of range (2 > number of parameters, which is 1).
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#1787 [17:37] <xales> and is this on the download client or in the browser?
#1788 [17:37] <mib_qnpix4> browser, its the free multiplayer versio
#1789 [17:37] <xales> Oh, that. Yes, that is being fixed right now
#1790 [17:38] <mib_qnpix4> ok thanks. and any idea as to when the server will be back up?
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#1792 [17:38] <xales> No idea, sorry. It isn't a priority though, because Classic is very outdated and not really supported
#1793 [17:38] <mib_qnpix4> i see. thanks
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#1795 [17:45] <aetherian> egad
#1796 [17:45] <xales> nou
#1797 [17:45] <aetherian> utoo
#1798 [17:46] <AndrewPH> nome
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#1800 [17:48] <aetherian> gnome?
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#1802 [17:52] <Kermi2> Hey
#1803 [17:52] <Kermi2> ok...
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#1806 [17:52] <aetherian> heya
#1807 [17:52] <aetherian> wassup
#1808 [17:53] <Kermi2> cannot get on minecraft =(
#1809 [17:53] <DeathShot> yo
#1810 [17:53] <DeathShot> !isdown minecraft.net
#1811 [17:53] <GreyBot> DeathShot: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1812 [17:53] <xales> Kermi2: Is there an error? What are you trying to play?
#1813 [17:53] <xales> Classic? Beta? In-browser? Download version?
#1814 [17:53] <Kermi2> i can get on classic singleplayer
#1815 [17:54] <Kermi2> on browser beta i get a java error
#1816 [17:54] <xales> What error?
#1817 [17:54] <Kermi2> and from download i just get a black screen
#1818 [17:54] <aetherian> then download :)
#1819 [17:54] <aetherian> oh
#1820 [17:54] <Kermi2> 500 serverlet ...
#1821 [17:54] <aetherian> do ya have the latest java
#1822 [17:54] <xales> aetherian: That wouldn't cause that problem
#1823 [17:54] <DeathShot> also upgrade your graphics card drivers
#1824 [17:54] <Kermi2> 500 Servlet Exception
#1825 [17:54] <xales> Kermi2: Upgrade graphics card drivers
#1826 [17:54] <Kermi2> yes
#1827 [17:55] <DeathShot> minecraft slips if it doesn't get propers openGL support
#1828 [17:55] <DeathShot> flips*
#1829 [17:55] <xales> Kermi2: Does it say anything other than Servlet Exception? anything after that?
#1830 [17:55] <Kermi2> java.lang.NullPointerException
#1831 [17:55] <Kermi2> and alot longer msg
#1832 [17:55] <aetherian> pastebin it
#1833 [17:55] <DeathShot> I think you have a currapte4d save file
#1834 [17:55] <xales> DeathShot: Servlet exceptions aren't local
#1835 [17:56] <brokenshovel> chris-d let me figure this out
#1836 [17:56] <xales> Kermi2: Please put the whole thing on pastebin.com
#1837 [17:56] <DeathShot> but that error is what I got when I had a currapted file
#1838 [17:56] <aetherian> a currapted file?
#1839 [17:56] <DeathShot> "java.lang.NullPointerException"
#1840 [17:56] <xales> DeathShot: But it could mean anything, especially when it isn't even your computer generating it
#1841 [17:56] <DeathShot> true
#1842 [17:56] <DeathShot> well no
#1843 [17:56] <DeathShot> thats not true
#1844 [17:56] <DeathShot> minecraft files are stored locally, even in the inn broswer one
#1845 [17:57] <DeathShot> its just that its rendered in brwwser
#1846 [17:57] <DeathShot> and doesn't have the stand alone client
#1847 [17:57] <Kermi2> doing it now
#1848 [17:57] <DeathShot> you still get the .minecraft under user data roaming
#1849 [17:57] <DeathShot> in*
#1850 [17:57] <xales> DeathShot: A servlet exception is still server-side
#1851 [17:57] <xales> Because servlets aren't run locally...
#1852 [17:57] <xales> :P
#1853 [17:57] <DeathShot> no I know that
#1854 [17:57] <DeathShot> but they problem could be caused by a currapted file not reciving or transmiting properly
#1855 [17:58] <xales> Not true
#1856 [17:58] <aetherian> *corrupted
#1857 [17:58] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, the minecraft site pages are not stored locally
#1858 [17:58] <DeathShot> minecraft site is made in java
#1859 [17:58] <Kermi2> done
#1860 [17:58] <DeathShot> because whoever designed it has a funny mind
#1861 [17:59] <xales> Kermi2: Need the link it sends you to when you pastebin it
#1862 [17:59] <DeathShot> java files are stored locally
#1863 [17:59] <xales> DeathShot: Wrong, the java is executed on the server
#1864 [17:59] <DeathShot> on the temp roaming folder
#1865 [17:59] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, No, just no.
#1866 [17:59] <Kermi2> http://pastebin.com/aGg0Zm0U
#1867 [17:59] <xales> DeathShot: That is the game client, not the web server
#1868 [17:59] <DeathShot> the java is EXECUTED on the server
#1869 [18:00] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, The .jsp files are not sent to you, the output of them being run is.
#1870 [18:00] <xales> Kermi2: You are sure you are trying to play Beta, not Classic?
#1871 [18:00] <Kermi2> im trying to play both
#1872 [18:00] <Kermi2> if i play the beta i get to the loading bar and it says loading done
#1873 [18:00] <Kermi2> and does nothing
#1874 [18:00] <xales> Kermi2: Classic multiplayer doesn't work right now
#1875 [18:00] <xales> As for beta, try this
#1876 [18:01] <xales> !reinstall
#1877 [18:01] <Kermi2> in the downloaded client i just get black screen after logging in
#1878 [18:01] <xales> Kermi2: Is this the first time you have tried, or has it only just started doing that?
#1879 [18:01] <DeathShot> AndrewPH if that is true them its a really REALLY innaficient way to running a web site because its slow and puts a heavy load on ur machines
#1880 [18:01] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, What
#1881 [18:01] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, ALl
#1882 [18:01] <Kermi2> its been doing it for some hours now
#1883 [18:01] <xales> DeathShot: That is how all websites are run, lol.
#1884 [18:01] <AndrewPH> ALL serverside languages are run like that
#1885 [18:01] <AndrewPH> php, python, perl, jsp, etc
#1886 [18:02] <Kermi2> i was playing on a classic server
#1887 [18:02] <DeathShot> php isn't visual
#1888 [18:02] <Kermi2> and it crashed my firefox
#1889 [18:02] <Kermi2> i tried to get back on
#1890 [18:02] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, None of those languages are
#1891 [18:02] <Kermi2> and that when this error started
#1892 [18:02] <xales> DeathShot: Programming isn't visual, lol.
#1893 [18:02] <DeathShot> I know what [programing is
#1894 [18:02] <DeathShot> but java lets you make guis
#1895 [18:02] <aetherian> back
#1896 [18:02] <DeathShot> PHP does not
#1897 [18:02] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, ...
#1898 [18:02] <xales> ...
#1899 [18:02] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, Java can also be used for desktop applications
#1900 [18:02] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, the SITE does not use java's gui crap
#1901 [18:02] <DeathShot> when u make a java web aplet you embed it in
#1902 [18:02] <xales> One could make a GUI with PHP, not that you want to
#1903 [18:03] <Kermi2> so~?
#1904 [18:03] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, jsp is not an applet by what you're saying
#1905 [18:03] <xales> DeathShot: Applets don't run server-side, but JSPs do. A servlet exception is on a JSP
#1906 [18:03] <AndrewPH> it is not embedded in a web site
#1907 [18:03] <xales> Kermi2: Try the reinstall instructions
#1908 [18:03] <Kermi2> it does the same for the broswer version of beta
#1909 [18:03] <Kermi2> so dont think its client
#1910 [18:03] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, Don't even bother arguing, we know what we're talking about :P
#1911 [18:03] <DeathShot> I'll admit I don't know java
#1912 [18:03] <DeathShot> I do know PHP though
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#1914 [18:04] <xales> Kermi2: Just try the reinstall thing
#1915 [18:04] <DeathShot> and C, C#, and C++
#1916 [18:04] <Kermi2> ok
#1917 [18:04] <xales> DeathShot: Aparrantly not
#1918 [18:04] <DeathShot> I code in PHP all the time
#1919 [18:04] <DeathShot> and funny enough it works
#1920 [18:04] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, According to your previous statements you don't know any of those languages.
#1921 [18:04] <DeathShot> my only problem is in my photoshopping skillz
#1922 [18:04] <xales> What does PHP have to do with photoshop? lol
#1923 [18:04] <DeathShot> site design
#1924 [18:04] <DeathShot> I suck at making site graphics
#1925 [18:04] <DeathShot> so they are all white background with black text and blue links
#1926 [18:04] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, PHP isn't used for site design
#1927 [18:05] <DeathShot> I know its not
#1928 [18:05] <AndrewPH> and it doesn't define what color your stuff is .-.
#1929 [18:05] <DeathShot> its used for the server side data processing
#1930 [18:05] <DeathShot> stores in SQL databases
#1931 [18:05] <AndrewPH> SQL is not directly related to php
#1932 [18:05] <DeathShot> those colors are the default clors
#1933 [18:05] <DeathShot> I know
#1934 [18:05] <DeathShot> but PHP is almost always used togethier with SQL
#1935 [18:05] <xales> DeathShot, just stop. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about
#1936 [18:05] <DeathShot> and I use it with SQL
#1937 [18:05] <DeathShot> fuck now I need to go find my code
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#1939 [18:06] <AndrewPH> real men make it on demand
#1940 [18:06] <xales> ...
#1941 [18:06] <AndrewPH> real coders*
#1942 [18:06] <AndrewPH> real men aren't coders .-.
#1943 [18:06] <DeathShot> ok
#1944 [18:06] <aetherian> haha
#1945 [18:06] <DeathShot> so you want me to code you a page right now?
#1946 [18:06] <Kermi2> re downloading the .jar files now
#1947 [18:06] <Gando> REAL MEN CODE IN MACHINE CODE
#1948 [18:06] <AndrewPH> >php
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#1950 [18:06] <AndrewPH> >page
#1951 [18:06] <AndrewPH> ok
#1952 [18:06] <Kermi2> nope still doesnt work
#1953 [18:06] <AndrewPH> fibbinachi sequence go
#1954 [18:06] <Gando> 1 1 2 3 5 8 13
#1955 [18:07] <Thols> fibonacci
#1956 [18:07] <aetherian> yey fibbo
#1957 [18:07] <Thols> o/
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#1959 [18:07] <DeathShot> well AndrewPH
#1960 [18:07] <mib_bgudg3> hello?
#1961 [18:07] <xales> Kermi2: You are playing a legit version, right?
#1962 [18:07] <DeathShot> how do you want me to show you a working php script?
#1963 [18:07] <Kermi2> yes
#1964 [18:07] <xales> mib_bgudg3: hello
#1965 [18:07] <aetherian> someone made that computer that could do fibbo in MC
#1966 [18:07] <mib_bgudg3> i need help...
#1967 [18:07] <aetherian> that was awesome
#1968 [18:07] <DeathShot> with no front end interaction?
#1969 [18:07] <xales> mib_bgudg3: with...?
#1970 [18:07] <aetherian> yes, mib
#1971 [18:07] <aetherian> ?
#1972 [18:07] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, .-.
#1973 [18:07] <mib_bgudg3> i bought the game and i didnt register when i bought it..
#1974 [18:07] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, php5-cli
#1975 [18:07] <xales> DeathShot: You can have a PHP script with no interaction
#1976 [18:08] <DeathShot> yes
#1977 [18:08] <AndrewPH> or you know pastebin
#1978 [18:08] <xales> mib_bgudg3: How did you buy it, and how long ago?
#1979 [18:08] <mib_bgudg3> everyime i go online it says im not premium
#1980 [18:08] <DeathShot> but its pointless with no interaction
#1981 [18:08] <Kermi2> anyone know how long till classic is working again ?
#1982 [18:08] <mib_bgudg3> like 1month
#1983 [18:08] <xales> DeathShot: Wrong
#1984 [18:08] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, Did we say it wasn't?
#1985 [18:08] <DeathShot> ok
#1986 [18:08] <xales> Kermi2: No idea, sorry
#1987 [18:08] <Kermi2> =/
#1988 [18:08] <DeathShot> you want me to just give you a script
#1989 [18:08] <DeathShot> ok
#1990 [18:08] <DeathShot> fine
#1991 [18:08] <xales> mib_bgudg3: Then the payment didn't go through
#1992 [18:08] <mib_bgudg3> with
#1993 [18:08] <mib_bgudg3> credit card
#1994 [18:08] <mib_bgudg3> it did..
#1995 [18:08] <DeathShot> let me help my friend with his stupid CSS problems and I'll code you a login script or something
#1996 [18:08] <mib_bgudg3> it said it did
#1997 [18:08] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, I asked for fibo sequence
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#1999 [18:08] <mib_bgudg3> and my mom got bill...
#2000 [18:09] <DeathShot> oh you asked for something
#2001 [18:09] <xales> mib_bgudg3: Well, it didn't, or it got charged back
#2002 [18:09] <mib_bgudg3> i wasnt registerd
#2003 [18:09] <DeathShot> are you logged in lol :P
#2004 [18:09] <mib_bgudg3> when i bought it
#2005 [18:09] <Gando> AndrewPH, 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89
#2006 [18:09] <DeathShot> how did you buy it without being registered?
#2007 [18:09] <mib_bgudg3> would the username be sent to the billers email?
#2008 [18:09] <xales> mib_bgudg3: You can't buy it without being registered...or shouldn't be able to
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#2010 [18:10] <xales> so...yes, no way to play if you bought it but weren't registered somehow
#2011 [18:10] <xales> you basically just gave them free money
#2012 [18:10] <mib_bgudg3> i play
#2013 [18:10] <mib_bgudg3> not online though....
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#2015 [18:10] <xales> ...so your playing a pirated copy then?
#2016 [18:10] <mib_bgudg3> no
#2017 [18:10] <mib_bgudg3> i bought it
#2018 [18:10] <mib_bgudg3> then i dled it
#2019 [18:10] <mib_bgudg3> i put in name
#2020 [18:11] <mib_bgudg3> says not premium
#2021 [18:11] <mib_bgudg3> i press play offline
#2022 [18:11] <mib_bgudg3> ive done nothing wrong
#2023 [18:11] <aetherian> o_O
#2024 [18:11] <xales> Play offline doesn't work unless you have logged in once with a premium account
#2025 [18:11] <LostMiner> Hello Folks. I wanted to try playing Minecraft Classic for Free, yet for some reason when I click the Singleplayer option, nothing happens. I've deleted and reinstalled Java, and currently i'm running windows Vista. Anything glaringly obvious I am doing wrong/
#2026 [18:11] <aetherian> forgotten password?
#2027 [18:11] <mib_bgudg3> well i guess i did...
#2028 [18:11] <xales> anyway, if you werent registered when you bought it, then you don't own it
#2029 [18:11] <xales> LostMiner: When you say "nothing happens", what do you mean?
#2030 [18:11] <mib_bgudg3> I BOUGHT IT OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2031 [18:12] <LostMiner> Well I get to the webpage, and it gives the quick run down of the keys.
#2032 [18:12] <xales> mib_bgudg3: But you weren't signed in when you did, so you may have given them money, but you didn't actually get a premium account
#2033 [18:12] <aetherian> OMGIOD EXTRA !!'S MAKE IT SOUND MORE IMPORTANT
#2034 [18:12] <LostMiner> that's it except for a reminder that I need java, then press escape and B!
#2035 [18:12] <xales> LostMiner: Are you using Internet Explorer?
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#2037 [18:12] <LostMiner> yup.
#2038 [18:13] <mib_bgudg3> xales
#2039 [18:13] <xales> That may be the issue...internet explorer seriously sucks
#2040 [18:13] <xales> Try a different browser
#2041 [18:13] <mib_bgudg3> any way i could relocate premium acc?
#2042 [18:13] <AndrewPH> internet exploder
#2043 [18:13] <xales> mib_bgudg3: No, you would have to buy it again
#2044 [18:13] <aetherian> haha
#2045 [18:13] <mib_bgudg3> like if i used name 1s?
#2046 [18:13] <LostMiner> I'll give that a shot :)
#2047 [18:13] <aetherian> mib: just buy it like fifty more times
#2048 [18:14] <Stimpson> I logged in and registered and it said Mib had paid for me an account. Thanks!
#2049 [18:14] <Kermi2> thanks for the help im off now
#2050 [18:14] <Kermi2> go play somat else till minecraft classic is back up
#2051 [18:15] <Kermi2> so i can finish my rubix cube =D
#2052 [18:15] <Kermi2> cya have fun
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#2054 [18:15] <aetherian> hey mib
#2055 [18:16] <aetherian> what's your ingame name
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#2057 [18:17] <aetherian> mib_bgudg3: what is the name you used to buy the game
#2058 [18:17] <LostMiner> Thanks Xales! That cleared it right up.
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#2060 [18:18] <xales> LostMiner: You are welcome
#2061 [18:18] <Gando> I think you'll find that Internet Explorer sux.
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#2063 [18:19] <xales> asdrasf: Please, reopen your client more
#2064 [18:19] <aetherian> internet failer
#2065 [18:19] <xales> ._.
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#2067 [18:19] <aetherian> pass the salt
#2068 [18:19] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, I got tired of waiting and went on codepad and made a 5 second fib sequence generator. gj you took too long lol
#2069 [18:20] <DeathShot> you said my name?
#2070 [18:20] <xales> ConMan8: You aren't seriously ban evading, are you? :P
#2071 [18:20] <DeathShot> it messes up full screen morrowind when xchat pops up its speach bubb;es
#2072 [18:20] <Gando> morrowind
#2073 [18:20] <ConMan8> no
#2074 [18:20] <Gando> .....
#2075 [18:21] <ConMan8> If I was you'd have no idea it was me
#2076 [18:21] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, Were you not going to make what I requested in order to prove that you knew what you were talking about? :p
#2077 [18:21] <xales> ConMan8: Aren't you bacon? :P
#2078 [18:21] <ConMan8> Yeah
#2079 [18:21] <xales> I was talking about #mcchatter
#2080 [18:21] <aetherian> heh
#2081 [18:21] <aetherian> uh oh
#2082 [18:22] <DeathShot> I am not 8, I don't feel the need to prove my self to anyone, especially not people I only met on the internet today. I admit I am new to computer science and still have much to learn
#2083 [18:22] <ConMan8> I might've accidentally joined that
#2084 [18:22] <DeathShot> but I know that I can code in php
#2085 [18:22] <AndrewPH> You said yo would prove it sir :p
#2086 [18:22] <xales> DeathShot: Computer science != actually programming
#2087 [18:22] <Gando> cool story, bro
#2088 [18:22] <AndrewPH> And that
#2089 [18:22] <DeathShot> and quite francly I would like to resume my morrowind lets plays and check out brorrowind
#2090 [18:22] <DeathShot> programing is based off off computer science
#2091 [18:22] <AndrewPH> lol
#2092 [18:22] <xales> Wrong
#2093 [18:22] <xales> lol
#2094 [18:22] <AndrewPH> you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
#2095 [18:23] <AndrewPH> as we suspected :p
#2096 [18:23] <DeathShot> good luck finding a computer science class that don't require you to know how to program
#2097 [18:23] <xales> indeed
#2098 [18:23] <Gando> bleh
#2099 [18:23] <AndrewPH> Oh you mean all of them, DeathShot?
#2100 [18:23] <DeathShot> none that I took
#2101 [18:23] <aetherian> ohhhh
#2102 [18:23] <aetherian> so you took them all?
#2103 [18:23] <xales> So, none
#2104 [18:23] <AndrewPH> Sounds like you didn't take it then?
#2105 [18:23] <aetherian> oh wait
#2106 [18:23] <aetherian> you took none
#2107 [18:23] <DeathShot> the ones I took required me to learn lisp
#2108 [18:23] <xolotl> *Actual* computer science classes aren't about programming. :)
#2109 [18:23] <ConMan8> I wonder what would happen if Miclee joined #notachannel
#2110 [18:23] <DeathShot> AP computer science
#2111 [18:23] <DeathShot> (I am still in HS)
#2112 [18:24] <AndrewPH> lol
#2113 [18:24] <AndrewPH> >high school
#2114 [18:24] <AndrewPH> >programming
#2115 [18:24] <xales> So clearly not a real computer science class then
#2116 [18:24] <AndrewPH> >teachers no nothing about anything
#2117 [18:24] <xales> Or real programming
#2118 [18:24] <AndrewPH> know rather
#2119 [18:24] <xales> ^
#2120 [18:24] <DeathShot> it is called AP computer science
#2121 [18:24] <xales> AndrewPH: it teaches how to use Microsoft Word
#2122 [18:24] <Stimpson> 10 print "name"
#2123 [18:24] <aetherian> omigod
#2124 [18:24] <Stimpson> 20 goto 10
#2125 [18:24] <AndrewPH> It's called real programmers know that teaching is terrible pay, and get better jobs
#2126 [18:24] <aetherian> he takes computer science III
#2127 [18:24] <aetherian> he's a leet hacker
#2128 [18:24] <xales> DeathShot: Point is? They could call it cheesy chicken, and it could be about ancient cultures
#2129 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> "AP Computer Science" at one school I went to was entry-level C. the Non-AP class was _exactly the same_, only it was Pascal.
#2130 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> Schools are idiots.
#2131 [18:26] <DeathShot> we did Lisp
#2132 [18:26] <AndrewPH> lol
#2133 [18:26] <DeathShot> and C++
#2134 [18:26] <AndrewPH> LOL
#2135 [18:26] <AndrewPH> C++ hello world amirite
#2136 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> "You mean Lithp?"
#2137 [18:26] <xales> entry-level c = lol stdio.h printf and scanf and if statement
#2138 [18:26] <DeathShot> so lisp
#2139 [18:26] <DeathShot> or scheme
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#2141 [18:26] <DeathShot> no*
#2142 [18:27] <Gando> std::cout >> "DeathShot is no fun!";
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#2144 [18:27] <AndrewPH> I know entry level lolcode
#2145 [18:27] <AndrewPH> http://res.public-craft.com/lolcode.lol
#2146 [18:28] <DeathShot> u mean 1337 speech?
#2147 [18:28] <DeathShot> anyways karate time :D
#2148 [18:28] <aetherian> haha lolcode
#2149 [18:28] <aetherian> I can haz integer
#2150 [18:28] <DeathShot> I'll continue this debate when i get back
#2151 [18:28] <AndrewPH> DeathShot, No I mean lolcode
#2152 [18:28] <aetherian> ima bye bye now
#2153 [18:29] <AndrewPH> http://pastebin.com/XRTTqZWT
#2154 [18:30] <aetherian> wincode
#2155 [18:30] <aetherian> and I do have to go
#2156 [18:30] <aetherian> sadly
#2157 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> LOLcode is just a ridiculously bad wrapper for C
#2158 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> much like allmost all novelty languages
#2159 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> Gando: isn't it std::cout << "output goes here"; // It's been a while, so..
#2160 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> It's just cout
#2161 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> isn't it?
#2162 [18:32] <Gando> I think it is <<, DopeGhoti
#2163 [18:32] <AndrewPH> >playing morrowind
#2164 [18:32] <AndrewPH> >'i want to get back to it'
#2165 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> IIRC cout << "The visual mnemonic is that your're putting things _into_ it"
#2166 [18:32] <AndrewPH> >'i need to go to karate'
#2167 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> If you're "using namespace std", then it's cout
#2168 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> whereas cin >> foo; // again, visual mnemonic
#2169 [18:33] <DS|Karate> enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7BWYd4PgF8
#2170 [18:33] <mib_bgudg3> grey
#2171 [18:33] <DS|Karate> now I'm off for real
#2172 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#2173 [18:33] <mib_bgudg3> look at pm..
#2174 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> I was referring mainly to '<<' v. '>>' in '16:28 < Gando> std::cout >> "DeathShot is no fun!";''
#2175 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> You don't have to PM me to ask a question
#2176 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Just ask it here
#2177 [18:34] <Gando> I know ;p
#2178 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> "You can ask questions in the morning, too."
#2179 [18:34] <Gando> I completely forgot it :\
#2180 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> Gando: no worries :)
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#2183 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> cout is so much nicer to deal with than printf(), no? :)
#2184 [18:35] <AndrewPH> DS|Karate, >december 25
#2185 [18:35] <mib_bgudg3> k
#2186 [18:35] <mib_bgudg3> well
#2187 [18:35] <mib_bgudg3> i bought this game like a while ago
#2188 [18:35] <mib_bgudg3> like 1month?
#2189 [18:35] <mib_bgudg3> and umm
#2190 [18:35] <mib_bgudg3> it always says user not premium
#2191 [18:35] <mib_bgudg3> and i can only play offline...
#2192 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> And MUCH nicer than typing System.out.println
#2193 [18:35] <mib_bgudg3> grey?
#2194 [18:35] <Gando> indeed
#2195 [18:35] <Gando> python: print "hello world, umad?"
#2196 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> mib_bgudg3 - Email daniel@mojang.com and payment@mojang.com with your payment details?
#2197 [18:36] <shadoom> is there any way to protect a minecraft server from raw packet hacking?
#2198 [18:36] <mib_bgudg3> like what is payment details?
#2199 [18:36] <AndrewPH> like your payment details
#2200 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> What you used to pay for minecraft
#2201 [18:36] <mib_bgudg3> ohhh
#2202 [18:37] <AndrewPH> like when and what your name was and what you used and stuff that goes along with that
#2203 [18:39] * AndrewPH thinks he was lying
#2203 [18:40] <DS|Karate> karate has been canceled because of the fucking snow storm
#2204 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> "I bought it with BitTorrent; that's where you get things, right?"
#2205 [18:40] <DS|Karate> anyways
#2206 [18:40] <DS|Karate> http://pastebin.com/ndtV8Nru
#2207 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> DS|Karate: Just kick the strom's ass.
#2208 [18:41] <DS|Karate> gonna go play morrowind
#2209 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> Apropos of nothing: Arby's sure makes a tasty sandwich.
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#2215 [18:58] <mib_nf0ocu> I cannot get the game to start up
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#2217 [19:00] <mib_nf0ocu> After clicking login, the screen either freezes on the load up, or finishes that and the screen goes black...Any suggestions?
#2218 [19:00] <gaRt3n> me same here
#2219 [19:01] <gaRt3n> C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Temp\WER4AD5.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
#2220 [19:01] <gaRt3n> C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Temp\WER6459.tmp.appcompat.txt
#2221 [19:01] <gaRt3n> C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Temp\WER68A0.tmp.mdmp
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#2224 [19:08] <gaRt3n> none idea? ^^
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#2233 [19:38] <froglegstew> my server is not saving correctly. when a player logs off then on their inventory is lost and they are moved to where they started the last time they played. this has never happened before and I haven't been doing anything differently
#2234 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> froglegstew: it sounds like the $player.dat files aren't being updated- check the timestamps on those files and see if they're current.
#2235 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> they're in world/players/
#2236 [19:40] <froglegstew> checking now...
#2237 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> Is your server running otherwise stably? Are there any mods installed?
#2238 [19:40] <froglegstew> yes, and no
#2239 [19:41] <froglegstew> the timestamps are not up-to-date btw, any ideas on how to fix that?
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#2241 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> froglegstew: issue a save-all command on the server.. is anyone on the server right now?
#2242 [19:51] <froglegstew> yes
#2243 [19:51] <froglegstew> but i don't think they'll mind, it's only 2 ppl and one of them is right next to me
#2244 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> Ask them to stash their stuff, re-run save-all, and restart the server
#2245 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> see if the players' .datfiles have newer timestamps
#2246 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> After the server's restarted, see if the problem persists.
#2247 [19:55] <froglegstew> i tried it but the files aren't updating
#2248 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> This Windows or Linux?
#2249 [19:55] <froglegstew> linux
#2250 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> try and 'touch' a file in that directory
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#2253 [20:00] <froglegstew> ok, i did. what exactly was that supposed to do?
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#2255 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> froglegstew: was testing whether your filesystem had remounted itslef read-only
#2256 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> which it apparently has not.
#2257 [20:06] <froglegstew> ahh, well i was able to 'touch' it
#2258 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> Did you run any mapping programs or the Biome extractor or anything on your world files?
#2259 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> (while the server was running)
#2260 [20:07] <froglegstew> no
#2261 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> upi
#2262 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> erm
#2263 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> you're not out of hard drive space, are you? `df -h`
#2264 [20:08] <froglegstew> no, i got lotss of space
#2265 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> I'm.. running out of ideas here
#2266 [20:08] <froglegstew> alright, np. i gtg anyways, thanks
#2267 [20:16] <NinjaKirby> Is there really some people in the world that don't think for themselves?
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#2269 [20:19] <NinjaKirby> I find it hard to fathom, how can you NOT remotely analyse a subject matter for yourself, to conclude it's pro's and con's based on your own values.
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#2271 [20:19] <iFizzE> Hey guys why cant i change my password
#2272 [20:20] <NinjaKirby> iFizzE, don't ever be a sheep, for the sake of humanity
#2273 [20:20] <iFizzE> ?
#2274 [20:20] <iFizzE> what?
#2275 [20:20] <NinjaKirby> Hang about, someone will have an answer for Password changing
#2276 [20:20] <iFizzE> ok
#2277 [20:24] <NinjaKirby> Giant bunch of Banana's
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#2279 [20:25] <iFizzE> so when will someone answer my question?
#2280 [20:29] <iFizzE> When can i change my password?
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#2282 [20:31] <NinjaKirby> A Family of Orangutans, feast on the Banana Bunch
#2283 [20:31] <iFizzE> When can i change my pass word?
#2284 [20:34] <Cial> iFizzE, for minecraft?
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#2286 [20:36] <Cial> iFizzE, if so http://www.minecraft.net/changepass.jsp
#2287 [20:37] <iFizzE> yes but
#2288 [20:37] <iFizzE> someone hacked my minecraft account
#2289 [20:37] <iFizzE> and im trying to change the pass
#2290 [20:37] <iFizzE> i have the URL for the pass change
#2291 [20:38] <iFizzE> but once i change it i get an error that says com.mysql.jdbc.exceptions.jdbc4.MySQLSyntaxErrorException: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'currentserver=null WHERE name='iFizzE'' at line 1
#2292 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> iFizzE: that was fixed earlier in the day
#2293 [20:40] <iFizzE> i am trying now, yet it wont work?
#2294 [20:44] <iFizzE> it still doesnt work
#2295 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> Hrm
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#2306 [21:09] <iFizzE> How can i change my password because when i try i get this error com.mysql.jdbc.exceptions.jdbc4.MySQLSyntaxErrorException: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'currentserver=null WHERE name='iFizzE'' at line 1
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#2309 [21:14] <xales> iFizzE: It is a problem with the server, just have to wait until it is fixed
#2310 [21:14] <Raikuron> Is anyone here or is it Idletown?
#2311 [21:14] <xales> I'm here
#2312 [21:14] <Raikuron> Well, that was a quick answer.
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#2314 [21:14] <Raikuron> Anyway, whenever I connect to a server, I get severe lag. Is it my internet or is something up with the server software?
#2315 [21:14] <Mathuin> Is 41475 chunks considered a "big" world?
#2316 [21:16] <xales> Raikuron: Is this with just one server?
#2317 [21:16] <xales> Mathuin: No idea
#2318 [21:17] <iFizzE> any idea when the error will be fixed?
#2319 [21:17] <xales> Soon
#2320 [21:17] <xales> Probably in a few hours
#2321 [21:17] <xales> Its very early morning in Sweden right now
#2322 [21:17] <iFizzE> its been going for me for about 4 hours
#2323 [21:17] <Mathuin> xales: me neither, but that's what I generated. Took *two hours* for JCraft to build from what took Python *two minutes* to calculate.
#2324 [21:17] <xales> Nobody is awake to fix it yet, you will have to wait a bit
#2325 [21:17] <Mathuin> I reallllly need to figure out how to generate new worlds in Python.
#2326 [21:18] <iFizzE> is notch the only one that can fix this?
#2327 [21:18] <xales> I don't think there is an easy way to do that =\
#2328 [21:18] <xales> iFizzE: No, Notch doesn't even work on the server stuff
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#2330 [21:18] <xales> but it is 3am
#2331 [21:18] <iFizzE> who does?
#2332 [21:18] <xales> so you have to wait for them to actually get to the office
#2333 [21:18] <iFizzE> its 6 pm where i live
#2334 [21:18] <Raikuron> Erm, did you answer my question while I was gone?
#2335 [21:18] <xales> yup
#2336 [21:19] <Raikuron> Quit lawyering, iFizzE.
#2337 [21:19] <xales> 21:16:44 <@xales> Raikuron: Is this with just one server?
#2338 [21:19] <Raikuron> No.
#2339 [21:19] <xales> iFizzE: Timezones
#2340 [21:19] <xales> Raikuron: http://speedtest.net/
#2341 [21:19] <Raikuron> You'd, erm, kind of have to be an idiot to not know about timezones.
#2342 [21:19] <Mathuin> The world, she is round.
#2343 [21:20] <Mathuin> As for Python and world domination^Wgeneration, looks like codewarrior has a bit of code.
#2344 [21:20] <Mathuin> While I'm wishing, I wish that Techtonicus or whatever was multithreaded.
#2345 [21:21] <xales> Mathuin: For Minecraft though?
#2346 [21:21] <Mathuin> Yes, for Minecraft.
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#2348 [21:21] <Mathuin> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1012&t=38715 <-- a thread where codewarrior talks about mce, the CLI for his code.
#2349 [21:22] <xales> MCE edits worlds, not generates them
#2350 [21:22] <Jam> Bad vide?o card drivers! can someone help me ou
#2351 [21:23] <iFizzE> what timezone do ppl who work on minecraft live in?
#2352 [21:23] <xales> Jam: Update your video card?
#2353 [21:23] <xales> iFizzE: They live in Stockholm, Sweden. It is currently 3:23AM
#2354 [21:23] <iFizzE> oh
#2355 [21:23] <Mathuin> xales: the only difference between editing a world and generating one is building the original structure. The rest is just populating bits.
#2356 [21:24] <iFizzE> Well if u see them can u address my problem to them?
#2357 [21:24] <Jam> Dell Inspiron 1300 Laptop with a Mobile Intel 915GM/GMS, 910GML Express graphics card
#2358 [21:24] <xales> iFizzE: They know about it, believe me
#2359 [21:24] <Jam> works perfectly on linux
#2360 [21:24] <Jam> im running vista
#2361 [21:24] <xales> Jam: You need to update the drivers for the video card
#2362 [21:24] <Jam> intel doesn't support it anymore
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#2364 [21:25] <mib_b8j43n> hello
#2365 [21:25] <Raikuron> Oh, god, a guy with a default name.
#2366 [21:26] <xales> Jam: Then it won't work
#2367 [21:26] <Mathuin> Raikuron: or someone using the web site who didn't see the dingle for changing your name.
#2368 [21:26] <Mathuin> Jam: yeah, take the hint and get a new one or go back to Linux?
#2369 [21:26] <Raikuron> ...I got banned from a server for supposedly being outside of the U.S. And I'm in Tucson...
#2370 [21:26] <Jam> ubuntu
#2371 [21:26] <Mathuin> Raikuron: and here I thought Arizona was the state that was all about 'papers please'. ;-)
#2372 [21:26] <mib_b8j43n> im so mad....
#2373 [21:26] <Raikuron> >_>
#2374 [21:26] <Mathuin> Jam: I'm using it, works fine here,b ut I've a Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT.
#2375 [21:26] <Raikuron> I was born here.
#2376 [21:27] <Mathuin> Alas, I was not born here in Oregon.
#2377 [21:27] <mib_b8j43n> xales this is just ubsurd....
#2378 [21:27] <xales> ...what?
#2379 [21:27] <mib_b8j43n> i 4got my acc and it wont let me recover..
#2380 [21:27] <mib_b8j43n> not premium now LMFAO
#2381 [21:28] <Raikuron> You also 4got how to type.
#2382 [21:28] <mib_b8j43n> only offline..
#2383 [21:28] <mib_b8j43n> I DIDNT 4get how to typ go h8 somwere el3 k nub?
#2384 [21:28] <Raikuron> ...What?
#2385 [21:28] <mib_b8j43n> seriously i can type how ever i would like to ok?
#2386 [21:28] <mib_b8j43n> please go be a duesh somwhere else
#2387 [21:28] <mib_b8j43n> somewhere
#2388 [21:29] <Raikuron> You, unfortunately, can, no matter how stupid it makes you look.
#2389 [21:29] <Mathuin> "douche"
#2390 [21:29] <Raikuron> A...Wow. I thought people this stupid couldn't even use Mibbit.
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#2392 [21:29] <mib_b8j43n> that made no sence
#2393 [21:29] * xales kicked mib_b8j43n from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: You go be a duesh somewhere else, and please try to make sence)
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#2395 [21:29] <Mathuin> That's the problem with keyword-based banning: bad spellers.
#2396 [21:30] <Cial> pwnt
#2397 [21:30] <xales> lol
#2398 [21:31] <Raikuron> Gaah. What are some ways, other than the obvious downward slope, to make a minecart move?
#2399 [21:31] <mib_b8j43n> DOUCHE,MOTHERFUCKER,FAGGET,DICK,PUSSY,FUCKER,ASSHOLE RAIKURON---i hamm ann eeendian basssssstard madafaka
#2400 [21:32] <Raikuron> 'Kay.
#2401 [21:32] <Mathuin> "faggot".
#2402 [21:32] <mib_b8j43n> FAGGET KAY?
#2403 [21:32] <Mathuin> Raikuron: You can push it, or you can launch it with one of those launchers.
#2404 [21:32] <mib_b8j43n> F A G G E T FUCKING ASS GAY GORRILA ERECTION TITTY
#2405 [21:33] * xales kicked mib_b8j43n from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Don't be a stupid fucker, have a nice day)
#2406 [21:33] <Raikuron> A launcher? Would you mind linking me to the simplest available schematics? I want to make an underground roller coaster.
#2407 [21:33] <Mathuin> Raikuron: when I looked at this last, Youtube was very helpful.
#2408 [21:34] <xales> Looking back, that kick reason could have been more epic
#2409 [21:34] <Kealper> whoops, i accidentally pressed a few keys on accident
#2410 [21:34] <xales> Now they will all whine on the forums about being banned from minecraft >.>
#2411 [21:34] <xales> or banned from all of IRC
#2412 [21:34] <xales> I'd rather kick them, allows the funny kick reasons
#2413 [21:35] <xales> :)
#2414 [21:35] <Mathuin> Perhaps they will report you to the Internet Authority for abusing your operator privileges.
#2415 [21:35] * Kealper sighs
#2415 [21:35] <xales> Mathuin: Oh dear
#2416 [21:35] <xales> the internet police
#2417 [21:35] <xales> :(
#2418 [21:35] <Kealper> oh no! lol
#2419 [21:35] * Kealper goes back to building a minecart booster
#2419 [21:35] <xales> also /unban -last :)
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#2421 [21:35] <Kealper> orly?
#2422 [21:35] <xales> yup, works
#2423 [21:35] <xales> and /unban (number from banlist)
#2424 [21:36] <xales> and /unban -first
#2425 [21:36] <xales> etc
#2426 [21:36] <Kealper> yeah, i knew about the ban number
#2427 [21:36] <Kealper> irssi is awesome lol
#2428 [21:36] <xales> also inb4 that guy goes to #minecraft
#2429 [21:36] <Raikuron> While we're off the rooms intended purpose, want to hear about how I sent a bot into an endless loop?
#2430 [21:36] <Jam> nope
#2431 [21:37] <Kealper> Raikuron: simple, whoever made the bot sucked
#2432 [21:37] <Raikuron> True. true.
#2433 [21:37] * xales hands channel go Kealper, going back to afkland
#2433 [21:37] <xales> s/go/to/
#2434 [21:37] * Kealper sighs
#2434 [21:37] <Mathuin> The best bot story is the one where the Christian channel's Bible-verse-quoting bot got kicked for swearing when someone had it quote a Bible verse with the word 'ass' in it.
#2435 [21:37] <Kealper> guess i should keep irssi open on my second monitor then
#2436 [21:38] <Raikuron> But anyway, it had a !spawn command which allowed you to spawn un-attended users or something, which did nothing, and I typed in !spawn Aineko.
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#2438 [21:38] <Raikuron> It went down due to a nick collision, came back, and repeated it over and over.
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#2440 [21:38] <Raikuron> Hi, there.
#2441 [21:38] <Raikuron> Done PMSing?
#2442 [21:38] <mib_5851o0> Me?
#2443 [21:38] <Jam> so this is free mode?
#2444 [21:38] <xales> Raikuron: Not the same peson, I hope
#2445 [21:38] <Kealper> Raikuron: probably not thesame guy
#2446 [21:38] <Raikuron> Oh, I thought you were someone else. I apologise.
#2447 [21:39] <xales> Though in the future, if you don't want people to associate you with others (who tend to be stupid), don't use the default random name
#2448 [21:39] <xales> :)
#2449 [21:39] <mib_5851o0> Okay
#2450 [21:39] <mib_5851o0> So i'm having problems with buying minecraft right now...
#2451 [21:39] <xales> What is the problem?
#2452 [21:40] <mib_5851o0> I just bought a $25 visa giftcard from target earlier
#2453 [21:40] <xales> Prepaid cards don't work for international purchases
#2454 [21:40] <mib_5851o0> And paypal won't accept it..
#2455 [21:40] <Raikuron> Launder it for a Paypal one.
#2456 [21:41] <Jam> sell it to someone
#2457 [21:41] <xales> Look at the small print on the back, 'Valid in the U.S. only'
#2458 [21:41] <mib_5851o0> Can on of you guys buy it for me and then I give you the money?
#2459 [21:41] <Raikuron> No.
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#2461 [21:41] <Jackson413> hey all
#2462 [21:41] <mib_5851o0> Is anyone willing?
#2463 [21:41] <Raikuron> You think we'd trust you, a random internet guy?\
#2464 [21:41] <Jam> what can u get from target?
#2465 [21:42] <mib_5851o0> I'll pay you first then?
#2466 [21:42] <Jackson413> does anyone still have hey0 that they have not deleted
#2467 [21:42] <mib_5851o0> I mean I equally wouldn't trust you guys, but I want it.
#2468 [21:42] <xales> Jackson413: Nope, unfortunately, we also don't support 3rd party programs/mods
#2469 [21:42] <xales> mib_5851o0: Why not use a real credit card?
#2470 [21:43] <mib_5851o0> Don't have one
#2471 [21:43] <Raikuron> Dude, we're all underageb&s.
#2472 [21:43] <mib_5851o0> yeah.
#2473 [21:43] <Mathuin> I'm underage ... for the AARP.
#2474 [21:43] <Jackson413> @xales actually im looking for a file
#2475 [21:43] <mib_5851o0> So....is anyone willing?
#2476 [21:43] <xales> mib_5851o0: Ask your parents to get it for you?
#2477 [21:43] <Raikuron> Jackson413: Google works incredibly well.
#2478 [21:43] <mib_5851o0> That would be my last choice really.
#2479 [21:43] <Jackson413> no no not quite that
#2480 [21:43] <xales> mib_5851o0: Should have been your first
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#2482 [21:44] <Raikuron> Then Minecraft Wiki.
#2483 [21:44] <xales> Jackson413: Even so.
#2484 [21:44] <Jackson413> i am looking for someone that has configured an hMod group permissions file
#2485 [21:44] <Jackson413> and i cant find it
#2486 [21:44] <mib_5851o0> So....I take it as a no then.
#2487 [21:44] <Coll> mib_5851o0
#2488 [21:44] <Mathuin> Jackson413: ask in #smp ?
#2489 [21:44] <Coll> what are you trying to do?
#2490 [21:44] <Jam> do these Op know notch?
#2491 [21:44] <Jackson413> ill try that mathuin
#2492 [21:44] <mib_5851o0> My prepaid won't work to purchase the game.
#2493 [21:45] <mib_5851o0> So I was asking if people were willing to buy it for me and I pay em back with it.
#2494 [21:45] <Jam> try to make money online man
#2495 [21:45] <xales> Jam: We don't personally know Notch, but we have direct-ish contact with Mojang
#2496 [21:45] <xales> mib_5851o0: Just ask your parents
#2497 [21:45] <Coll> cant you just pay the person full price and have them use that money to get minecraft for you?
#2498 [21:45] <mib_5851o0> That's what I said...
#2499 [21:45] <mib_5851o0> Or along those lines.
#2500 [21:46] <Jam> is this thing hosted on a Vps?
#2501 [21:46] <Raikuron> facepalm.jpg
#2502 [21:46] <Coll> well if you do that I would be glad to help I suppose
#2503 [21:46] <Jam> or your place
#2504 [21:46] <xales> Jam: What 'thing'?
#2505 [21:46] <Jam> irc chat
#2506 [21:47] <xales> lol, no
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#2508 [21:47] <xales> It is run on several servers, worldwide, and isn't affiliated in any way with Mojang or Notch
#2509 [21:47] <xales> IRC networks are made up of several servers, not just one
#2510 [21:47] <xales> there are at least 5 leaf servers on this network
#2511 [21:48] <xales> not counting hubs and services, which may be on their own server
#2512 [21:48] <Raikuron> Don't forget the tubes.
#2513 [21:49] <Raikuron> ...And my joke falls like...a...person with a death wish...on the Golden Gate Bridge...
#2514 [21:49] <Raikuron> Dammit, I can't even come up with good similes anymore.
#2515 [21:49] <Kealper> lol
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#2517 [21:52] <Raikuron> Eeek! A penis!
#2518 [21:52] <Kealper> wut
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#2520 [21:52] <sneakysmith12> Hi everyone, I've got a technical issue that would be best directed at an employee, any of those around?
#2521 [21:53] <xales> sneakysmith12: What is the issue?
#2522 [21:53] <Jam> this place isn't like a chat place its for help?
#2523 [21:53] <Raikuron> Just lay it down, bitch.
#2524 [21:53] <Kealper> depends what the technical issue is
#2525 [21:53] <sneakysmith12> I got double charged on my CC
#2526 [21:53] <xales> sneakysmith12: Email payments@mojang.com
#2527 [21:53] <Raikuron> Sucks to be you.
#2528 [21:53] <sneakysmith12> I did
#2529 [21:53] <xales> How long ago?
#2530 [21:53] <Raikuron> No, you didn't.
#2531 [21:53] <sneakysmith12> a week
#2532 [21:53] <Raikuron> Just tell us the damned problem.
#2533 [21:53] <Raikuron> Oh...
#2534 [21:53] <xales> They get quite a few emails, as I'm sure you can imagine
#2535 [21:53] <Raikuron> *headdesk*
#2536 [21:54] <sneakysmith12> I know, that's why I've waited this long :)
#2537 [21:54] <xales> Send an email to daniel@mojang.com as well
#2538 [21:54] <sneakysmith12> ok, thanks
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#2540 [21:54] <Jam> and yo might get a reply in 2 months
#2541 [21:54] <xales> Jam: If nobody needs help, people are free to talk
#2542 [21:54] <Kealper> daniel actually answers his email
#2543 [21:55] <Raikuron> Gaah. Bored.
#2544 [21:55] <Jam> ehh.. just got jokes
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#2546 [21:55] <Jam> i actually do need help
#2547 [21:55] <Jam> with ddrivers
#2548 [21:55] <xales> If the driver doesn't exist, you can't install it
#2549 [21:55] <xales> ._.
#2550 [21:56] <Jam> its the Bad video card drivers!
#2551 [21:56] <Mathuin> Oh dear, ram is at 97%^ and we're hitting swap.
#2552 [21:56] <xales> Jam: The problem, as I have said, is that your video card, as you said, is not supported by Intel, and so it will not work
#2553 [21:57] <xales> There is nothing you can do. You said it worked with Ubuntu, so use that.
#2554 [21:57] <sneakysmith12> Ok, I emailed daniel. Thanks for the help
#2555 [21:58] <xales> sneakysmith12: No problem
#2556 [21:58] * xales has to go back to being AFK, busy ._.
#2556 [21:58] * xales pokes Kealper
#2556 [21:58] <Jam> what if i get a new video card?
#2557 [21:58] <Raikuron> So, would anyone mind telling me a multiplayer survival server's I.P. that actually works and will allow me in?
#2558 [21:59] <Kealper> Mojang needs to go with that idea of hiring a dedicated support person.....
#2559 [21:59] <Kealper> who gets paid like $20/hr to just read email all day
#2560 [21:59] <Kealper> and idle in #?@%?%(! and this channel
#2561 [22:00] <Jam> lol
#2562 [22:00] <Raikuron> The fuck?
#2563 [22:00] <Jam> i can do that
#2564 [22:00] <Jam> read email
#2565 [22:00] <Kealper> you would hate the job of reading Mojang's email
#2566 [22:01] <Kealper> support@mojang.com probably gets like 2-3k emails per day
#2567 [22:01] <Jam> thats why i said 2 months
#2568 [22:01] <Jam> what happens when someone spams it?
#2569 [22:01] <Raikuron> *if
#2570 [22:02] <Kealper> i'm sure they have something like SpamAssasin or something on their mail server lol
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#2572 [22:03] <Jam> what if there using legit emails?
#2573 [22:03] <Kealper> then i guess that email gets spammed?
#2574 [22:04] <Kealper> as for the question about servers....i have one that a few people go on....
#2575 [22:05] <Jam> so there must be gamers here
#2576 [22:05] <Kealper> define gamers?
#2577 [22:05] <Jam> pc gamers
#2578 [22:05] <Gando> define gamer
#2579 [22:06] <Jam> video games
#2580 [22:06] <Kealper> i would assume there are 137 pc gamers in here..
#2581 [22:06] <Gando> well herpaderp, Jam
#2582 [22:06] <Jam> lol
#2583 [22:06] <Gando> i mean, what level of gaming dedication do you describe as a "gamer"
#2584 [22:07] <Jam> not just Pc games but console
#2585 [22:07] * Kealper hates consoles
#2585 [22:07] <Gando> I have an xbox, I use it to fuck around.
#2586 [22:08] <Kealper> newest console i have is an N64
#2587 [22:09] <Kealper> which is probably older than many people in this channel -.-
#2588 [22:09] <Jam> the your Pc?
#2589 [22:09] <Kealper> eh?
#2590 [22:10] <Jam> whats your setup?
#2591 [22:10] <Kealper> it's a bit old, but it's a 3.0ghz dual core athlon, 6 gigs of ddr2 1066, and an OCed radeon hd3850
#2592 [22:11] <Gando> "a bit old"
#2593 [22:11] <Gando> my laptop is 2.0ghz dual core pentium, 4 gigs ram, and ATI radeon <something or other>
#2594 [22:11] <Kealper> hey, it plays BC2, it's still alive and kickin'
#2595 [22:11] <Jam> better then mine
#2596 [22:11] <Gando> as does mine
#2597 [22:11] <Jackson413> kealper
#2598 [22:11] <Kealper> BC2 on high quality*
#2599 [22:12] <Kealper> Jackson413
#2600 [22:12] <Jackson413> kealper what mod is ur server running right now?
#2601 [22:12] <Kealper> i usually build a fresh computer when it stops playing the latest games
#2602 [22:12] <Jam> costs to much
#2603 [22:12] <Kealper> my server only has the wrapper that i made
#2604 [22:13] <Jackson413> have you ever used hey0?
#2605 [22:13] <Kealper> yes.....and i doubt i have the files from it
#2606 [22:13] <Jackson413> damn
#2607 [22:13] <Kealper> and if i did, they would not work with the latest server anyways
#2608 [22:13] <Jackson413> i need one file
#2609 [22:13] <Jackson413> groups.txt
#2610 [22:14] <Kealper> i've modified mine
#2611 [22:14] <Jackson413> preconfigured with popular mods
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#2613 [22:14] <Jackson413> i need to study it
#2614 [22:14] <Jackson413> because i am clueless
#2615 [22:14] <Kealper> it's not hard to understand
#2616 [22:14] <Jackson413> well ive added /mc to my mods
#2617 [22:14] <Kealper> http://wiki.hey0.net/index.php/Flatfile_Configuration#groups.txt
#2618 [22:14] <Jackson413> and they cannot ues it
#2619 [22:14] <Kealper> oh, the power of google
#2620 [22:14] <Jackson413> ill try that
#2621 [22:15] <Jam> Google isn't perfect.
#2622 [22:16] <Kealper> google was that time
#2623 [22:16] <Kealper> it's great if you know how to use it
#2624 [22:16] <Jam> i didn't think it was that hard..
#2625 [22:18] <Jam> you can abuse google
#2626 [22:19] <Jam> actually no but like AdSense
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#2629 [22:28] <Aarinfel> I'm trying to build the 5 torch redstone timer, the very simple one, but my torches never change state. they just stay the same....
#2630 [22:28] <Aarinfel> is there a trick I'm missing?
#2631 [22:28] <ShaRose> wow
#2632 [22:28] <Kealper> Aarinfel: single or multi?
#2633 [22:29] <Aarinfel> single
#2634 [22:29] <Kealper> oh, yes, you are probably missing something lol
#2635 [22:29] <Kealper> if you wanted, you could hop in to my server and i could make one for you, so you could see it
#2636 [22:29] <Aarinfel> i have 5 blocks with a torch mounted on the side, and then wired in sequence....
#2637 [22:30] <Aarinfel> nah. I dont have much time. Was just hoping for a quick idea, I'll tinker some more later with it. I gotta get to bed soon. Work comes too early.
#2638 [22:30] <Aarinfel> but thanks for the offer. maybe tommorow if I have no luck.
#2639 [22:30] <Kealper> ahh, well there is a good example of stuff on the minecraft wiki
#2640 [22:31] <Kealper> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_circuits
#2641 [22:31] <Aarinfel> yea. and I've been on YouTube all week too.
#2642 [22:32] <Aarinfel> kk. I'll read that. Thanks.
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#2644 [22:33] <Jam> what are you trying to make?
#2645 [22:33] <Kealper> a timing circuit is what he said
#2646 [22:34] <Jam> for what purpose?
#2647 [22:34] <Kealper> didn't say...but timers have lots of purposes
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#2651 [22:42] <mib_3nj0oi> how do you run minecraft on the computer if you have an intel video card
#2652 [22:42] <Kealper> depends on the intel video card
#2653 [22:42] <Kealper> FFFFFUUUUUUUUUU!
#2654 [22:46] <Gando> lol, intel
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#2656 [22:50] <JustSarah> How do I make Minecraft run faster on my labtop?
#2657 [22:50] <JustSarah> Just bought it today, its a bit laggy.
#2658 [22:50] <Kealper> go into options
#2659 [22:50] <Kealper> and set graphics from Fancy to Fast, and then set the render distance to your liking
#2660 [22:51] <JustSarah> Awesome.:D
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#2663 [23:09] <lAnime> o.o..
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#2665 [23:10] <lAnime> o.o
#2666 [23:10] <JustSarah> So don't limit frame rate?
#2667 [23:11] <lAnime> Sigh, my account dun workk..
#2668 [23:11] <Mathuin> Sucky!
#2669 [23:11] <lAnime> well atleast people are chatting now..
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#2674 [23:24] <iFizzE> any idea when they will fix the issue of changing passwords?
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#2677 [23:29] <ingram> so someone directed me here from fsirc
#2678 [23:29] <ingram> anyond know who or what room they are in :/
#2679 [23:29] <lemon-rev> no but why wher ou here
#2680 [23:30] <ingram> what?
#2681 [23:30] <ingram> why was i there?
#2682 [23:30] <ingram> its an irc i'm on
#2683 [23:31] <lemon-rev> hm
#2684 [23:31] <ingram> oh well
#2685 [23:31] <lemon-rev> your useing irc, so what are you wanting
#2686 [23:31] <lemon-rev> really
#2687 [23:31] <lemon-rev> can you do a /list
#2688 [23:31] <ingram> i did
#2689 [23:31] <ingram> none were shown
#2690 [23:31] <ingram> oh god
#2691 [23:31] <ingram> 1440 channels
#2692 [23:31] <lemon-rev> try again
#2693 [23:32] <lemon-rev> lol
#2694 [23:33] <ingram> sigh
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#2696 [23:33] <lemon-rev> now can you see what you where looking for
#2697 [23:33] <lemon-rev> and why that channel
#2698 [23:33] <lemon-rev> lol
#2699 [23:33] <lemon-rev> this is minecraft help
#2700 [23:33] <lemon-rev> you wanting answers on mc
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#2702 [23:37] <SinZ> he quit
#2703 [23:38] <cpt_snacks> Firefox can't connect to minecraft.net and whenever I try to connect to SMP I either get "Connection refused" or "End of stream" errors :/
#2704 [23:39] <lemon-rev> hahahha, didnt see it
#2705 [23:39] <xales> cpt_snacks: What username are you trying to connect with?
#2706 [23:39] <lemon-rev> got that crap turned off
#2707 [23:39] <cpt_snacks> cpt_snacks
#2708 [23:40] <xales> well, there is the problem
#2709 [23:40] <xales> using a pirated version isn't a good idea
#2710 [23:40] <xales> things tend to not work
#2711 [23:40] <cpt_snacks> I bought the game.
#2712 [23:40] <xales> I just checked, that username is not premium
#2713 [23:40] <xales> sorry, but you haven't
#2714 [23:40] <cpt_snacks> That's absurd I paid for the game
#2715 [23:40] <xales> huh, never mind
#2716 [23:41] <xales> ._.
#2717 [23:41] <cpt_snacks> I purchased an alpha account back around late September
#2718 [23:41] <xales> aparrantly my crappy script doesn't work, I apologize
#2719 [23:41] <xales> I double checked
#2720 [23:41] <Diablothein> xales fail'd
#2721 [23:41] <xales> anyway
#2722 [23:41] <cpt_snacks> I was getting ready to go up to Mojang HQ and kick some ass
#2723 [23:41] <Diablothein> And wow is this firmware update HUGE
#2724 [23:41] <xales> I assume you are using Windows, cpt_snacks?
#2725 [23:42] <cpt_snacks> Mac OS X
#2726 [23:42] <xales> Open Terminal
#2727 [23:42] <xales> and when that is open, run the command
#2728 [23:42] <xales> cat /etc/hosts
#2729 [23:42] <xales> and copy the output of that, and paste it on http://pastebin.com
#2730 [23:44] <cpt_snacks> http://pastebin.com/JGsP0UWZ
#2731 [23:45] <xales> that is the whole file?
#2732 [23:45] <cpt_snacks> That's it.
#2733 [23:45] <xales> ok, try
#2734 [23:45] <xales> ping -c3 www.minecraft.net
#2735 [23:45] <xales> and just paste in here the first line
#2736 [23:46] <cpt_snacks> PING mc-main-1819944940.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com (184.73.251.97): 56 data bytes
#2737 [23:46] <xales> huh, and you can't browse to minecraft.net in firefox?
#2738 [23:46] <cpt_snacks> It's also telling me three packets were sent but none were receieved
#2739 [23:46] <xales> Yeah, thats normal. They block pings
#2740 [23:47] <xales> Does Firefox just give you the normal "server not found"?
#2741 [23:47] <cpt_snacks> Yes
#2742 [23:48] <xales> Are you behind any sort of proxy?
#2743 [23:49] <cpt_snacks> No, I'm not.
#2744 [23:49] <xales> Can you connect with a different browser?
#2745 [23:49] <cpt_snacks> Give me a second and I'll try
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#2747 [23:50] <xales> (Also, the errors you are experiencing when trying to play SMP seem to be server-related, possibly a version mismatch for the second one, not not always_
#2748 [23:51] <cpt_snacks> I can get on Minecraft.net with Safari
#2749 [23:51] <xales> Have you tried clearing Firefox's cache and other saved information?
#2750 [23:51] <cpt_snacks> Not yet, but that would be a good place to start, wouldn't it.
#2751 [23:52] <xales> Generally is, but I don't think it would be related. Never hurts to try
#2752 [23:52] <Diablothein> go to minecraftwiki.net
#2753 [23:52] <cpt_snacks> Wiki and forums work fine
#2754 [23:52] <Diablothein> click the link Play it Now!
#2755 [23:52] <Diablothein> Try if directing it from elsewhere would work.
#2756 [23:53] <cpt_snacks> Still doesn't work.
#2757 [23:54] <xales> cpt_snacks: Do you have any kind of 'security' software on the computer?
#2758 [23:54] <cpt_snacks> Not that's active. Also, regarding the server, my friends could connect without any problems, I was the only person who couldn't get on it.
#2759 [23:55] <xales> That leads me to believe there is a more sinister problem ._.
#2760 [23:55] <xales> what error did you get?
#2761 [23:56] <cpt_snacks> Either "End of stream" or "Connection refused"
#2762 [23:56] <xales> Try connecting to 'smp.shadow-craft.net'
#2763 [23:56] <cpt_snacks> I'm going to try a different server and see what happens
#2764 [23:56] <xales> I know that server works..
#2765 [23:57] <cpt_snacks> Connection refused.
#2766 [23:57] <Mathuin> I imagine that whatever lets you connect to the internet is screwing with you.
#2767 [23:57] <xales> cpt_snacks: To smp.shadow-craft.net?
#2768 [23:57] <cpt_snacks> Yes
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#2770 [23:58] <xales> The problem is one of, A: your computer is behind a firewall (hardware or software) that is preventing it from using the internet properly, B: your computer someone got severly misconfigured, or C: has some sort of virus
#2771 [23:59] <xales> somehow*
#2772 [23:59] <cpt_snacks> That would seem to be my luck
#2773 [23:59] <cpt_snacks> I'm going to try something and report back