#1 [00:00] <Sqozza> Which you place in the Multiplayer box.
#2 [00:00] <Sqozza> Which you can access from the main menu.
#3 [00:00] <Sqozza> I type really fast for some reason. >.>
#4 [00:00] <dirge> i already ticked it in
#5 [00:00] <Odium_xXx> Sqozza -> The IP should be either a local IP or LAN IP
#6 [00:00] <dirge> its failing to connect
#7 [00:00] <Odium_xXx> is what i'm getting at.
#8 [00:01] <Sqozza> Yeah.
#9 [00:01] <Sqozza> If you're hosting, it's a lan IP.
#10 [00:01] <Sqozza> If it's on your own computer, typing in localhost should work.
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#12 [00:01] <Odium_xXx> dirge - what Sqozza said
#13 [00:01] <Odium_xXx> :P
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#15 [00:03] <dirge> its not working (what emoticon shall bear my face, my heart, my breath?)
#16 [00:03] <Red_M> back sort of
#17 [00:03] <dirge> ill try local IP
#18 [00:03] <Red_M> for wat?
#19 [00:04] * Sqozza kicked Red_M from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: SPARTAAAAAAA)
#20 [00:04] <Sqozza> :3
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#22 [00:04] <Red_M> ????
#23 [00:04] <Sqozza> A wizard plainly did it.
#24 [00:04] <Red_M> wat was that for?
#25 [00:04] * xales kicked Red_M from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: I dunno wat that was for)
#26 [00:04] <xales> His ass must hurt from all this boot
#27 [00:04] <xales> :<
#28 [00:04] <dirge> okay, so a server is running, on my ip adress, on my choice of ports, all is well.
#29 [00:05] <dirge> but typing in my own ip and port doesnt work in the multi ip input
#30 [00:05] <xales> Did you port forward?
#31 [00:05] <dirge> i dont know what that is
#32 [00:05] <Odium_xXx> ohdear....
#33 [00:05] <Sqozza> http://portforward.com/
#34 [00:05] <xales> You need to do that
#35 [00:05] <Odium_xXx> http://portforward.com
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#37 [00:06] <esper_xufqap> am I the only one getting end of stream/bad login on every server I try to join?
#38 [00:06] <xales> Yes
#39 [00:06] <xales> what is your username?
#40 [00:07] <esper_xufqap> xaviergmail
#41 [00:07] <dirge> i bloody hate this.
#42 [00:07] <Odium_xXx> dirge - portforwading is a basic hosting requirement
#43 [00:07] <xales> why are you using that nick, xavier
#44 [00:07] <dirge> this should not be this complicated
#45 [00:07] <esper_xufqap> which nick?
#46 [00:07] <Odium_xXx> dirge -> it's not
#47 [00:07] <xales> dirge: Did you expect running a server to be click-a-button easy?
#48 [00:07] <dirge> just like i should be able to run my own website from a simple .exe
#49 [00:07] <Sqozza> xales, yes.
#50 [00:07] <xales> esper_xufqap: the random/default one
#51 [00:08] <Odium_xXx> lol dirge
#52 [00:08] <Odium_xXx> ohdear..
#53 [00:08] <esper_xufqap> im lazy
#54 [00:08] <dirge> i expected it to go up when i put it up
#55 [00:08] <AG_Elias> HAHAHAHAHAHA
#56 [00:08] * Sqozza sniggers
#56 [00:08] <dirge> or at least it to treat it essentaily as a lan of sorts
#57 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> I'm.. going to walk away now, before I say anything untowards...
#58 [00:08] <dirge> just a connection between buds
#59 [00:08] <dirge> which i KNOW is a possibility
#60 [00:08] <Sqozza> GreyVulpine: Kick me before I say something nasty.
#61 [00:08] <Odium_xXx> GreyVulpine - I might come too.
#62 [00:08] <AG_Elias> dirge, please read our rules and FAQ.
#63 [00:09] <xaviergmail> dirge use teamviewer to create a vpn or use hamachi
#64 [00:09] <xaviergmail> and why am I getting this bad login/end of stream thing?
#65 [00:09] <Sqozza> Ugh, last week of holidays.
#66 [00:09] <Sqozza> >.>
#67 [00:10] <xales> xaviergmail: reopen minecraft >.>
#68 [00:10] <xaviergmail> still the same thing
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#71 [00:11] <xales> do it again
#72 [00:11] <Hawkstah> so back again new issue this time (1 step back i think)
#73 [00:11] <AG_Elias> dirge, you can always purchase Minecraft hosting.
#74 [00:11] <xaviergmail> works now
#75 [00:12] <Hawkstah> anyone have any idea why when i launch the minecraft client i get a java error Could Not Create The Java Virtual Machine
#76 [00:12] <dirge> i couldnt purchase a new pair of jeans
#77 [00:12] <Hawkstah> i have uninstalled java completely and reinstalled it with the same issue
#78 [00:12] <xales> Hawkstah: What are the specs of the computer you are running it on?
#79 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> dirge - Suggestion, have one of us remote into your computer, and set it up for you?
#80 [00:13] <Hawkstah> Win 7 ultimate 64, 6gb ram, intel core 2 quad Q9300 @ 2.5GHZ
#81 [00:13] <dirge> i scare people... i dont get talking to them enough to know basic terminology about computers
#82 [00:13] <Hawkstah> Nvidia 9800 GT
#83 [00:13] <aetherian> heheheh
#84 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> If you let us dirge, one of us can take control of your computer remotely from the outside, and set up your server for you.
#85 [00:14] <aetherian> tyvm mchelp for giving me laughter
#86 [00:14] <xales> Hawkstah: www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
#87 [00:14] <Sqozza> We try.
#88 [00:14] <aetherian> just reading the log
#89 [00:14] <aetherian> redm
#90 [00:14] <aetherian> lol
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#92 [00:14] * aetherian away again
#92 [00:14] <Hawkstah> thx xales ill check there now and let u know brb
#93 [00:15] <dirge> and what i ask to a cruel and unloving world is why it is so that i cannot just set up my own sites and servers by the brim of my blinky brick... i have bandwidth, i shouldnt have to pay for more
#94 [00:15] * GreyVulpine sighs
#94 [00:15] * Odium_xXx cringes
#94 [00:15] <dirge> and i dont know how to do that
#95 [00:15] <aetherian> heh
#96 [00:15] * Sqozza facedesks
#96 [00:15] * Sqozza faceceilings
#96 [00:15] <Sqozza> Etc.
#97 [00:15] <Odium_xXx> dirge -> instead of whining about how the world sux because YOU dont possess the knowlege you want
#98 [00:15] <Hawkstah> Java SE 6 Update 23, Windows 7 6.1 x86, java is working up up to date according to that link
#99 [00:15] <Odium_xXx> twhy dont you go collect the knowlege you want
#100 [00:15] <aetherian> I think you can technically host a website from the computer locally...
#101 [00:16] <AG_Elias> dirge: You could perhaps spend the time needed to learn why.
#102 [00:16] <AG_Elias> aetherian, most ISP ToS's don't allow servers.
#103 [00:16] <aetherian> awe
#104 [00:16] <dirge> maybe i should just give up
#105 [00:16] <xales> Hawkstah: Do you have any kind of antivirus or firewall?
#106 [00:16] <aetherian> well, screw ToS's
#107 [00:16] <Odium_xXx> dirge -> if i want ot bake a cake, i dont just stand around cursing the world for not having a cake button.
#108 [00:16] <Odium_xXx> dirge -> i learn how to bake a cake
#109 [00:17] <Hawkstah> yes, i tried turning it off and running the client, same error
#110 [00:17] <Odium_xXx> dirge -> think about it
#111 [00:17] <dirge> and very similarily, i can make exlent hardtack, but i couldnt make dough rise
#112 [00:17] <Hawkstah> i can play using the browser just not the client
#113 [00:18] <xales> Hawkstah: Go to start->run->all programs->acessories->command prompt
#114 [00:18] <Hawkstah> k
#115 [00:18] <Hawkstah> ready whenever
#116 [00:18] <xales> now, what folder is Minecraft.exe in?
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#118 [00:18] <Shadow386> it is in my butt
#119 [00:18] <Hawkstah> desktop
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#121 [00:18] <xales> OK, run the command
#122 [00:19] <xales> Desktop\Minecraft.exe
#123 [00:19] <Red_M> wat cmd?
#124 [00:19] * xales kicked Red_M from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: /kick)
#125 [00:19] <aetherian> heh
#126 [00:19] <aetherian> he he he
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#128 [00:19] <aetherian> well, he has determination
#129 [00:19] <Red_M> wat the hell
#130 [00:19] * xales kicked Red_M from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: wat do u expect)
#131 [00:19] <Hawkstah> same error, Java Virtual Machine Launcher - Could not create the Java Virtual Machine
#132 [00:19] <Kealper> wut
#133 [00:20] <xales> Hawkstah: Do you see any output in the command prompt window?
#134 [00:20] <xales> Kealper: I've asked him repeatedly to type like a person, and not be a dumbshit
#135 [00:20] <xales> didn't listen
#136 [00:20] <Hawkstah> nothing, just awaiting the next command
#137 [00:20] <xales> so, kicky time
#138 [00:20] <xales> Hawkstah: one sec
#139 [00:20] <dirge> well, im sure ive annoyed the gosh-darn-heck of of everyone and their dog, so ill be borking for a while before i bug anyone again... i can put a object into space for ten grand, any maybe even get it to shoot down your least favorite satalite, but i cant host a webside on a brick ive been using since i was 6
#140 [00:20] <aetherian> aahhh
#141 [00:20] <Hawkstah> no worries, take ur time m8
#142 [00:20] <Kealper> but wat do u meen? typein liek ths is ossim
#143 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> xales - can you get Hawkstah to download the .jar and execute it with minimal ram?
#144 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> and kick in #minecraft
#145 [00:21] <xales> GreyVulpine: Can try that
#146 [00:21] <xales> GreyVulpine: but with 6GB of ram
#147 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Erm
#148 [00:21] <xales> does that do anything? =/
#149 [00:21] <Hawkstah> .jar downloaded
#150 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> I don't know...
#151 [00:21] <aetherian> kealper: add more question marks
#152 [00:21] <dirge> im sure linux has a port forwarding tool, but you have to be part of the community to know their stupid names
#153 [00:22] <Kealper> aetherian: see? i can't even suck that hard if i try lol
#154 [00:22] <Kealper> dirge: google is pretty sweet, i hear
#155 [00:22] <xales> Hawkstah: sorry
#156 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> xales, kick again
#157 [00:22] <aetherian> haha
#158 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Thanks
#159 [00:22] <Hawkstah> no worries xales, im in no rush
#160 [00:23] <xales> !server
#161 [00:23] <xales> eerrrr
#162 [00:23] <Kealper> xales: op me in #minecraft for a few, i'll take it away from myself when i'm done, you help the people here, i'll take care of the nubs in there
#163 [00:23] <xales> !client
#164 [00:23] <aetherian> lol
#165 [00:23] <aetherian> spamfail
#166 [00:23] <xales> Hawkstah: Click the 'for linux' link
#167 [00:23] * Diablothein is away: BANG!
#167 [00:24] <aetherian> aarrghh
#168 [00:24] <aetherian> he got me
#169 [00:24] <Hawkstah> k its downloaded
#170 [00:24] <xales> Hawkstah: Copy that file onto your desktop
#171 [00:24] <dirge> ill get onto it... i do know a thing about google though, if i can the clan name to the ancient Tomoe 'Gozen'... i dont even know how to compare that... its like making a space program from rocks
#172 [00:24] <Hawkstah> done
#173 [00:24] <xales> Hawkstah: Now, in the cmd window run this command
#174 [00:24] <xales> java -Xms256M -XmX256M -jar Desktop/Minecraft.jar
#175 [00:25] <Hawkstah> java is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file
#176 [00:26] <xales> ugh
#177 [00:26] <xales> Kealper: your turn!
#178 [00:26] <xales> how2javapath
#179 [00:26] <Kealper> windows?
#180 [00:26] <xales> yeah, for Hawkstah
#181 [00:26] <Kealper> vista or 7?
#182 [00:26] <Hawkstah> 7
#183 [00:26] <Kealper> right then
#184 [00:26] <Kealper> Hawkstah: press the start button
#185 [00:27] <Kealper> type env into the search bar in there
#186 [00:27] <Kealper> it should say edit envrioment variables blah blah
#187 [00:27] <Kealper> something to that effect
#188 [00:27] <Hawkstah> k
#189 [00:27] <Kealper> ok, click that, tell me when you have the Enviroment Variables thing open
#190 [00:28] <Hawkstah> its open
#191 [00:28] <Kealper> see the top box, where it says ser variables for [your name]
#192 [00:28] <Kealper> User variables*
#193 [00:28] <Hawkstah> User variables for Hawk, ya
#194 [00:28] <Kealper> dang i can't type
#195 [00:28] <Hawkstah> lol no worries
#196 [00:28] <Kealper> ok, is there one called PATH in there?
#197 [00:29] <Hawkstah> only 2 variables there, TMP and TEMP
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#199 [00:29] <ItsCriminal> hi all
#200 [00:29] <xales> hello
#201 [00:29] <Kealper> ok, press the New... button
#202 [00:29] <Hawkstah> j
#203 [00:29] <Hawkstah> *k
#204 [00:29] <Kealper> Hawkstah: make the variable named PATH (with caps)
#205 [00:29] <Hawkstah> done
#206 [00:29] <Kealper> now, is your computer 64 bit or 32 bit?
#207 [00:29] <ItsCriminal> i wanted to ask if someone could tell me where i can download the IRC script for the server, Linux
#208 [00:29] <Hawkstah> 64
#209 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> ItsCriminal - What do you mean? An IRC integration script for a server?
#210 [00:30] <Kealper> put in there C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin;
#211 [00:30] <Kealper> click ok twice, then open cmd
#212 [00:30] <Hawkstah> k ready
#213 [00:30] <xales> You will need to close it and reopen it, Hawkstah
#214 [00:31] <ItsCriminal> well i want to intigrate a bot on the minecraft server, who is sending the chat from the game to the channel and maybe back ^^
#215 [00:31] <xales> ItsCriminal: Look on the forum
#216 [00:31] <Hawkstah> k thx xales, ready
#217 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> ItsCriminal - For what type of server?
#218 [00:31] <xales> we don't directly supprt mods or third-party programs here
#219 [00:31] <ItsCriminal> SuseLinux
#220 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> classic or beta?
#221 [00:31] <ItsCriminal> beta
#222 [00:31] <xales> Hawkstah: run the same command now
#223 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> ItsCriminal - You'll need to look into modding the server, Bukkit is the only one available right now
#224 [00:31] <xales> java -Xms256M -Xmx256M -jar Desktop/Minecraft.jar
#225 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> ItsCriminal - Try #bukkit, the site for bukkit's easily google-able
#226 [00:32] <aetherian> ugh... a curse on mibbit for ever having been produced...
#227 [00:32] <ItsCriminal> thank you, i will check the forum then.
#228 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> ItsCriminal - the plugin you want is: http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admn-chat-craftirc-v1-68c-beta-minecraft-irc-harmony.253/
#229 [00:32] <ItsCriminal> thank you so much :D
#230 [00:32] <Hawkstah> back to the initial java error
#231 [00:33] <Hawkstah> Java Virtual Machine Launcher - Could not create the Java virtual machine
#232 [00:33] <xales> Hawkstah: Try it again, but change the 256 to 128
#233 [00:34] <Hawkstah> for both sets
#234 [00:34] <xales> yeah
#235 [00:34] <Hawkstah> same error
#236 [00:35] <xales> try 64 I guess
#237 [00:35] <Hawkstah> same
#238 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, if 128's not doing it, it's a problem with java?
#239 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> Reinstall java?
#240 [00:35] <dirge> oh yes, still no bothering anyone yet, but in 10 - 20 years we'll be hosting individualy, casualy
#241 [00:35] <xales> GreyVulpine: It worked in browser though
#242 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> hmm
#243 [00:35] * xales kicked dirge from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: K bro)
#244 [00:35] <Hawkstah> i tried that Grey, didnt work
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#246 [00:36] <xales> GreyVulpine: leads me to think that its an antivirus or something
#247 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> Not just updating, but completely uninstalling and reinstalling?
#248 [00:36] <Hawkstah> ill try again with no A/V on
#249 [00:36] <xales> Hawkstah: what AV is it?
#250 [00:36] <ConMan8> xales you've gone mad with power
#251 [00:36] <xales> some of them are...problematic
#252 [00:36] <Hawkstah> Panda
#253 [00:37] <Kealper> ConMan8: oh yes, he's totally mad with power lol
#254 [00:37] <Hawkstah> the game launched, logged in to multiplayer, checking if im going to get the inital error i had earlier when i was in here (java.net issue)
#255 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> Hawkstah - Did you install the 64-bit version of java?
#256 [00:38] <Hawkstah> not sure, i just installed whatever it asked for when i ran the game on the browser
#257 [00:38] <Hawkstah> it seems to be working now
#258 [00:39] <Hawkstah> and im also no longer getting the java.net error that was kicking me (which is why i reinstalled java)
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#260 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, nice call there xales.
#261 [00:40] <xales> thanky
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#263 [00:41] <Hawkstah> turning that command u gave me earlier into a .bat file should work to launch the game should it not?
#264 [00:41] <Hawkstah> if that error persists i mean
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#266 [00:41] <xales> Hawkstah: The error was your antivirus, it seems
#267 [00:41] <Red_M> xales enough
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#269 [00:42] <xales> Red_M: why?
#270 [00:42] <Red_M> i am sick of it
#271 [00:42] <xales> what are you going to do about it :P
#272 [00:42] <Red_M> i have my ways
#273 [00:42] <xales> behave, and I won't have to kick you
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#275 [00:42] <xales> mhmm
#276 [00:42] <Red_M> i was behaving
#277 [00:42] <xales> k
#278 [00:42] <xales> not really
#279 [00:42] <Sqozza> He's tired of your shenanigans.
#280 [00:42] <Red_M> and you still kick me
#281 [00:42] <Sqozza> I'll gladly kick him instead.
#282 [00:42] <Sqozza> :>
#283 [00:42] <Red_M> god dam it
#284 [00:42] <ConMan8> Pick me pick me!
#285 [00:42] <Red_M> oh i mean alha dam it
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#287 [00:43] <Sqozza> ConMan8, you can already kick him.
#288 [00:43] <ConMan8> Why is Red_M being kicked anyway?
#289 [00:43] <Sqozza> :>
#290 [00:43] <ConMan8> I caan?
#291 [00:43] <xales> ConMan8: Read up
#292 [00:43] <Sqozza> Yes.
#293 [00:43] <Red_M> lol jeff dunum
#294 [00:43] <Sqozza> You can chanserv kick.
#295 [00:43] * ChanServ kicked Red_M from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: KICK by ConMan8 (whee))
#296 [00:43] <Sqozza> Break a leg, broski.
#297 [00:43] <mib_n4b2zf> anyone know why minecraft is only loading a white screen?
#298 [00:43] <xales> mib_n4b2zf: Which version? Beta or Classic?
#299 [00:43] <mib_n4b2zf> beta
#300 [00:43] <xales> in-browser or downloaded?
#301 [00:43] <Sqozza> If it's beta, it's possible you have some borked mod installs.
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#303 [00:43] <mib_n4b2zf> in browser
#304 [00:43] <Aperson> hi
#305 [00:44] * xales kicked Aperson from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: You aren't good at hiding)
#306 [00:44] <Sqozza> Hello Red_M.
#307 [00:44] <Sqozza> Hello, slow typing.
#308 [00:44] <mib_n4b2zf> i cant run it downloaded cause i have bad video drivers
#309 [00:44] <xales> mib_n4b2zf: It won't work not-downloaded either, then
#310 [00:44] <mib_n4b2zf> but i have ran it in browser
#311 [00:44] <xales> you need to udpate the drivers
#312 [00:44] <mib_n4b2zf> how?
#313 [00:44] <xales> what model video card?
#314 [00:45] <mib_n4b2zf> g55 chip set its part of the intell graphics
#315 [00:45] <xales> is that the full name?
#316 [00:45] <ConMan8> oho
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#318 [00:46] * ConMan8 clearusers
#318 [00:46] <mib_n4b2zf> lol sorry its this http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/intelg45/sb/CS-029498.htm
#319 [00:47] <xales> mib_n4b2zf: http://www.intel.com/support/detect.htm
#320 [00:48] <mib_n4b2zf> it says its up to date
#321 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> laptop?
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#326 [00:49] <xales> From what I've read, it doesn't look like that will run it very well, and if drivers are up to date...
#327 [00:50] <mib_n4b2zf> ya a lobtop
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#329 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Check your manufacturer's website for updates
#330 [00:50] <mib_n4b2zf> ok
#331 [00:50] <Hawkstah> thx again for the help xales, Kealper & GreyVulpine , now got it running with A/V on and no more java.net error either
#332 [00:51] <Hawkstah> have a good night all, thx again
#333 [00:52] <mib_n4b2zf> ya ther are no upgrades either the onlt thing i did is upgrade java
#334 [00:52] <mib_n4b2zf> could the upgrade have done anything?
#335 [00:53] <AG_Elias> Possibly.
#336 [00:53] <mib_n4b2zf> any way to fix that?
#337 [00:54] <xales> Sqozza: are you going in his channels
#338 [00:54] <xales> lol
#339 [00:55] <Sqozza> xales, maybe..
#340 [00:55] <Sqozza> I stopped.
#341 [00:55] <Sqozza> :3
#342 [00:55] <xales> Sqozza: I was wondering if he was making shit up or not
#343 [00:55] <Sqozza> Nah, I was.
#344 [00:55] <Sqozza> But like I said, I stopped.
#345 [00:55] <Sqozza> :P
#346 [00:56] <xales> 00:54:59 <xales> he hasn't done it to any other channel
#347 [00:56] <xales> 00:55:03 <xales> and what do you want me to do about it?
#348 [00:56] <xales> 00:55:06 <Red_M> really?
#349 [00:56] <xales> 00:55:10 <Red_M> ban him
#350 [00:56] <xales> 00:55:13 <Red_M> his host name
#351 [00:56] <xales> 00:55:23 <Red_M> he spammed not one but two channels
#352 [00:56] <Kealper> lolwut
#353 [00:56] <xales> who do these people think I am an oper
#354 [00:56] <xales> FML
#355 [00:56] <Sqozza> I DID SO.
#356 [00:56] <Sqozza> I copypasted 5 lines of ASCII art.
#357 [00:57] <Sqozza> If thats genuine malicious spam, diligaff.
#358 [00:57] <Kealper> i'd sling a few lines of ascii in here, but it would be through aubot, and i would HATE people to know that command
#359 [00:57] <Sqozza> It was specifically a green and grey "AROUSED"
#360 [00:58] * Sqozza blames #tropers for everything.
#360 [00:58] <Kealper> lol
#361 [00:58] <Sqozza> First random quote I got.
#362 [00:58] <Sqozza> <+feepbot> Quote for Dextralus: <Dextralus> yay! penis!
#363 [00:59] <xales> lol
#364 [00:59] <xales> 00:57:21 <Red_M> i can type how ever i want
#365 [00:59] <xales> 00:57:39 <Red_M> that is not ur choice
#366 [00:59] <xales> 00:57:58 <xales> It is, in my channel
#367 [00:59] <xales> 00:58:14 <Red_M> its ur channel but not ur server
#368 [00:59] <xales> 00:58:19 <xales> so?
#369 [00:59] <ConMan8> ...
#370 [00:59] <ConMan8> Quote for GodotIsWaiting4U: <GodotIsWaiting4U> We are <GodotIsWaiting4U> INSIDE <GodotIsWaiting4U> YOUR <GodotIsWaiting4U> ASS <NamelessFragger> GodotIsWaiting4U: Typical of you...no wonder you get quoted so much.
#371 [00:59] <Kealper> fail
#372 [01:01] <Kealper> xales: what is that guy going on about?
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#374 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> Mad about being kicked
#375 [01:03] <AG_Elias> He was an idiot anyway.
#376 [01:03] <xales> I'll give you a log in a minute
#377 [01:03] <xales> very funny
#378 [01:03] <AG_Elias> xales: I need voice. I need protection from the idiots who wander in.
#379 [01:04] <AG_Elias> I am on the front lines here.
#380 [01:05] <xales> does anyone else mind AG_Elias having VOP?
#381 [01:05] <Kealper> uhh...
#382 [01:05] * Kealper is indifferent
#382 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> As long as AG_Elias knows it's not just for /kicking, yes.
#383 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> er, no
#384 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> whatever
#385 [01:05] <xales> lol
#386 [01:06] * AG_Elias sighs
#386 [01:06] <xales> there you go
#387 [01:06] <AG_Elias> It doesn't count that this literally is my job?
#388 [01:06] <xales> 01:06:09 -ChanServ(services@esper.net)- AG_Elias added to #MineCraftHelp VOP list.
#389 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> Really? We're just volunteers here.
#390 [01:06] <aetherian> waugh
#391 [01:06] <AG_Elias> Well, I am too.
#392 [01:06] <Mathuin> AG_Elias: you work for a Minecraft server vendor, right?
#393 [01:06] <AG_Elias> Yes.
#394 [01:07] <aetherian> we now have another vop?
#395 [01:07] <aetherian> ono
#396 [01:07] <Mathuin> Congrats on getting paid to do something fun. :-)
#397 [01:07] <AG_Elias> HAHAHAHAHAHA
#398 [01:07] <aetherian> this challah is really good
#399 [01:07] <AG_Elias> No.
#400 [01:07] <AG_Elias> Playing Minecraft is fun.
#401 [01:07] <xales> http://public:0000@darksigns.net/xales/red_m.01-30.log
#402 [01:07] <AG_Elias> Dealing with the people who try to run servers is not.
#403 [01:08] <Mathuin> Heheheheh.
#404 [01:08] <Kealper> AG_Elias: this channel sees that a lot too :/
#405 [01:08] <Sqozza> It only works in real clients, btw xales.
#406 [01:08] <Sqozza> Lemme screenshot what it should actually look like.
#407 [01:08] <Mathuin> Awesome! It's doing the right thing -- even though it takes wayyyy longer, I'm happier.
#408 [01:08] <AG_Elias> Kealper: The funniest thing is, I see people treat you guys worse than they treat us, and our customers *pay* us.
#409 [01:09] <xales> Sqozza: RFC says it should work
#410 [01:09] <Kealper> gotta love the general public
#411 [01:09] <xales> Chrome+Firefox should both honor it
#412 [01:09] <Kealper> don't forget Opera and Safari, too lol
#413 [01:09] <xales> so most everything but Exploder
#414 [01:10] <Kealper> only Trident-based browsers (Internet Explorer, Maxthon, etc) are not standards-compliant
#415 [01:10] <Sqozza> Exploder*
#416 [01:10] <aetherian> lolxales
#417 [01:10] <aetherian> hey
#418 [01:10] <aetherian> internet exploder isn't /that/ bad
#419 [01:10] <aetherian> I use it...
#420 [01:10] <xales> he still hasn't said anything back
#421 [01:10] <Kealper> xales: that guy is so friggin retarded
#422 [01:11] <aetherian> and I could open up the thing
#423 [01:11] <Kealper> aetherian: please tell me you are joking
#424 [01:11] <Sqozza> HURRY UP AND LOAD IMGUR.
#425 [01:11] <AG_Elias> xales: Wasn't that the guy who I was trying to explain that he couldn't clear out his "heartbeat cache"?
#426 [01:11] <aetherian> kealper: I've been wanting to get around to downloading chrome, but I keep forgetting
#427 [01:11] <Sqozza> Capped net is roughly as fun as shaving your balls with a chainsaw.
#428 [01:11] <aetherian> so I am not joking
#429 [01:11] <xales> AG_Elias: Yup
#430 [01:11] <AG_Elias> Hehe.
#431 [01:11] <Kealper> aetherian: please switch to something better asap, for your computer's sake
#432 [01:12] <aetherian> kealper: nay, not yet.
#433 [01:12] <Sqozza> Ding.
#434 [01:12] <Sqozza> http://i.imgur.com/jV5zi.png
#435 [01:12] <Sqozza> That's what it should look like. ^^
#436 [01:12] <xales> Kealper: He is pingspamming me now
#437 [01:12] <aetherian> lolwut
#438 [01:12] <aetherian> epictroll
#439 [01:12] <Sqozza> Like, CTCP pingspam?
#440 [01:12] <aetherian> win
#441 [01:12] <xales> Sqozza: 01:11:50 Red_M [Red_M@d122-104-165-9.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] requested CTCP PING from xales: 2290678729
#442 [01:12] <AG_Elias> xales: Report to the IRCops and get a gline.
#443 [01:12] <xales> 01:11:54 Red_M [Red_M@d122-104-165-9.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] requested CTCP PING from xales: 2290806737
#444 [01:12] <xales> AG_Elias: Already done
#445 [01:12] <Kealper> how cute
#446 [01:12] * Sqozza does a dance.
#446 [01:13] <Sqozza> Hm.
#447 [01:13] <Sqozza> IRCops here are pretty awesome.
#448 [01:13] <Sqozza> On quakenet, they're a bunch of dicks.
#449 [01:13] <AG_Elias> Indeed.
#450 [01:14] <xales> haven't responded yet, still waiting
#451 [01:14] <aetherian> lolquakenet
#452 [01:14] <Sqozza> I'm only on there for one channel.
#453 [01:14] <Sqozza> >.>
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#455 [01:15] <aetherian> heya bacon
#456 [01:15] <aetherian> (lol)
#457 [01:15] <Sqozza> Heya Conman8.
#458 [01:15] * bacon slaps Sqozza with itself
#458 [01:15] <AG_Elias> xales: Don't forget to ban him from #minecraft. He is attacking you.
#459 [01:15] <xales> Already did that
#460 [01:15] <xales> before he started
#461 [01:16] <Sqozza> LOL.
#462 [01:16] <bacon> If he's attacking you in query it's a matter for the opers
#463 [01:16] <Sqozza> xales, xales, xales...
#464 [01:16] <AG_Elias> bacon, already being handled.
#465 [01:16] <xales> Sqozza, Sqozza, Sqozza...
#466 [01:16] <Sqozza> I'm waiting to find out whatever it is.
#467 [01:16] * bacon bacon bacon
#467 [01:16] <Sqozza> :P
#468 [01:16] <aetherian> bacon: nice barium carbon oxygen nitrogen
#469 [01:16] * Sqozza eats all three bacons.
#469 [01:16] * AG_Elias nom nom's bacon
#469 [01:16] <aetherian> BaCON
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#471 [01:17] <bacon> o
#472 [01:17] <bacon> idea
#473 [01:18] <aetherian> *sniff*
#474 [01:18] <aetherian> I thought my life was good... until I realized, one can't see into localhost, simply be it.
#475 [01:18] <xales> I swear, I must visit the party-channel once a week now
#476 [01:18] <xales> :(
#477 [01:18] <aetherian> party-channel?
#478 [01:19] <Kealper> party? i want in on this
#479 [01:19] <xales> I'm not going to say the name, because Mibbits like to click it
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#481 [01:19] <aetherian> nonono
#482 [01:19] <Sqozza> lol
#483 [01:19] <BaconMan8> whois me
#484 [01:19] <aetherian> it's BaCON2Ma8
#485 [01:19] <BaconMan8> * pride salted in pig shame meat
#486 [01:19] <AG_Elias> Hahaha
#487 [01:20] <AG_Elias> You have so many channels I want to enter, Bacon.
#488 [01:20] <AG_Elias> interesting*
#489 [01:20] <AG_Elias> Of course, I have over 700 IRC channels open on my bouncer.
#490 [01:20] <aetherian> oh well
#491 [01:20] <aetherian> one can always whois you, xales
#492 [01:20] <BaconMan8> oh, I totally forgot..
#493 [01:20] <xales> I'm too lazy to get a better vhost
#494 [01:20] * BaconMan8 adds #opers to his favourites
#494 [01:21] <xales> xales.darksigns.net will be replaced with a much more epic host...next time I disconnect
#495 [01:21] <xales> which will probably be several years
#496 [01:22] <xales> I maintained a connection to an Undernet server for 2.5-ish years
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#498 [01:22] <AG_Elias> My record was a Coldfront server for 1.5 years.
#499 [01:22] <AG_Elias> Netsplits don't count.
#500 [01:24] <Mathuin> I use a CMC called Lily (it's generations ahead of IRC but limited to a group of folks I hung out with in college). The longest time that server was up was 1233 days, and it died because of the UPS battery biting the shed.
#501 [01:24] <xales> You are still connected to the net when it splits
#502 [01:24] <xales> just not all of it
#503 [01:24] <xales> :)
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#509 [01:35] <Checkzor> hi
#510 [01:35] <Checkzor> I'm looking to pay someone to help me setup a server on a vps running centOS
#511 [01:36] <xales> what part of it do you need help with?
#512 [01:37] <Checkzor> Eh I have very little unix/linux experience
#513 [01:37] <xales> How much RAM does the VPS have?
#514 [01:37] <Checkzor> I'm looking to possibly have someone talk to me on skype and sort of walk me through setting it up, as well as do stuff for me
#515 [01:37] <Checkzor> 3gb
#516 [01:37] <Checkzor> Should be enough for 20 or so people
#517 [01:37] <xales> Yeah..that should be fine
#518 [01:38] <xales> as far as Skype/doing stuff for you, I don't really have time myself, and I can't use Skype
#519 [01:38] <Checkzor> ahh
#520 [01:38] <xales> though maybe Kealper or GreyVulpine would do it
#521 [01:38] <xales> I could help you in here though!
#522 [01:38] <Checkzor> lol
#523 [01:38] <Checkzor> I'm not used to the whole command structure of linux
#524 [01:38] <xales> Give this a read
#525 [01:39] <xales> http://linuxcommand.org/
#526 [01:39] <Checkzor> will do
#527 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Basically, ensure java is installed, if not, install it. download server, run it, connect, profit
#528 [01:39] <Checkzor> The biggest problem I'm having is installing the dependancies
#529 [01:39] <Checkzor> Java
#530 [01:39] <Checkzor> and a few other things
#531 [01:39] <Sqozza> I'm considering going on a lrn2linux thing.
#532 [01:39] <Mathuin> Yay optimizations.
#533 [01:39] <Checkzor> I also would like to use mcmyadmin with it
#534 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#535 [01:40] <Sqozza> Don't you have to set up a repo then aptget java?
#536 [01:40] <Sqozza> Or something liek that. >.>
#537 [01:40] <Checkzor> Yeah
#538 [01:40] <Checkzor> hence why I'm trying to find someone to pay to do it for me
#539 [01:40] <xales> Sqozza: On Debian
#540 [01:40] <Checkzor> or atleast walk me through and help me problem solve
#541 [01:40] <Sqozza> SME is apparently a debian variant, then.
#542 [01:40] <Sqozza> :>
#543 [01:41] <xales> Checkzor: You can get that for free, in here
#544 [01:41] <Mathuin> Does MyMcAdmin really work? I read it was broken a while ago.
#545 [01:41] <Checkzor> I would like to use it, but If I'm correct it does not properly support bukkit yet.
#546 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> it doesn't
#547 [01:42] <Checkzor> Alright I'm looking to set up a server running bukkit, that backs itself up every 3 hours
#548 [01:42] <Checkzor> and restarts once per day
#549 [01:42] <Checkzor> to, you know keep everything running alright
#550 [01:42] <xales> You probably want to find a wrapper to do that
#551 [01:42] <Mathuin> ... are daily reboots required with busy servers?
#552 [01:42] <Checkzor> now I have not the slightest clue as to how to create a script for that to work in linux
#553 [01:42] <xales> Mathuin: They shouldn't be, depends on the system though
#554 [01:42] <Checkzor> Not sure, but I guess they couldn't hurt
#555 [01:42] <Mathuin> That screams fraught-with-peril to me.
#556 [01:43] <xales> Checkzor: If you have the server set up and need a script, just ask around
#557 [01:43] <xales> however, ideally, you would use a wrapper to do those
#558 [01:43] <Checkzor> a what
#559 [01:43] <Checkzor> Ha, the lingo I'm not familiar with heh.
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#561 [01:44] <xales> A wrapper is a program that loads the server application, rather than you loading it directly, so it can feed commands to it
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#563 [01:44] <Checkzor> ahh
#564 [01:44] <Checkzor> so when I ran my server on my laptop using visual admin
#565 [01:44] <Checkzor> if you know what that is
#566 [01:44] <Checkzor> it was a wrapper
#567 [01:44] <xales> no idea what visual admin is, sorry
#568 [01:44] <Sinvarien> I have a semi noob question, how can I recover my password?
#569 [01:44] <Checkzor> eh makes no difference
#570 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> Sinvarien- For minecraft?
#571 [01:45] <Sinvarien> yeah
#572 [01:45] <Checkzor> Xales do you have a wrapper in mind for my server?
#573 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> Sinvarien - http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#574 [01:45] <Sinvarien> TY much
#575 [01:45] <xales> Checkzor: Nope, the only one that pops into mind other than MCMA is SimpleServer, but I don't think that supports Bukkit either
#576 [01:46] <xales> there should be a way to have Bukkit do backups and restart the server
#577 [01:46] <Checkzor> :(
#578 [01:46] <xales> ask in #bukkit
#579 [01:46] <xales> if there is a way to have it restart the server and backup the world automatically
#580 [01:46] <Checkzor> Then how do all these giant 50 slot server have daily backups + bukkit + bukkit plugins working so well
#581 [01:46] * ChanServ kicked Sqozza from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: KICK by BaconMan8 (damniit))
#582 [01:46] <xales> ...
#583 [01:46] <Odium_xXx> O.o
#584 [01:47] <lahwran> wut
#585 [01:47] <Checkzor> umm
#586 [01:47] * Odium_xXx Sqozza has been invited to #MineCraftHelp
#586 [01:47] * Odium_xXx nods
#586 [01:47] <xales> lolwut, I thought only ops could invite people to channels
#587 [01:48] <xales> whatever
#588 [01:48] <BaconMan8> that's only if it's +p or something
#589 [01:48] <[JD]> :x
#590 [01:48] <xales> right
#591 [01:48] <Checkzor> everyone is bukkit is afk
#592 [01:48] <xales> give them a minute
#593 [01:49] <xales> You could also look on the Bukkit forum
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#595 [01:50] <Checkzor> oo
#596 [01:50] <Checkzor> google
#597 [01:50] <Checkzor> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admn-backupplugin-v0-8-5-backups-maps.895/
#598 [01:50] <Checkzor> I think I found what I need.
#599 [01:52] <Checkzor> Alright, so back to the whole installing the proper dependencies on centOS
#600 [01:52] <xales> it should just be something along the lines of
#601 [01:52] <xales> yum install sun-jre6-bin
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#603 [01:53] <cantuse> heolp
#604 [01:53] <Checkzor> Hmm, what exactly does that mean? just so I have an idea of why it needs to be done lol
#605 [01:53] <cantuse> i cant use minecraft at all
#606 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> cantuse - Why can't you?
#607 [01:53] <cantuse> it crashes
#608 [01:54] <cantuse> donno why
#609 [01:54] <xales> Checkzor: One sec
#610 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Okay, can you give us a pastebin of the crash report?
#611 [01:54] <cantuse> no it crahses
#612 [01:54] <cantuse> just closes on tislefs
#613 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Can you elaborate?
#614 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> When does it crash?
#615 [01:54] <cantuse> if u can gide me
#616 [01:54] <Checkzor> kk
#617 [01:55] <cantuse> idk i thin its a scam >.>
#618 [01:55] <xales> Checkzor: Is it 32bit of 64bit
#619 [01:55] <xales> or*
#620 [01:55] <cantuse> 32
#621 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> scam?
#622 [01:55] <cantuse> it used to work now it dont at all
#623 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> What changed?
#624 [01:56] <Checkzor> umm
#625 [01:56] <cantuse> dnno
#626 [01:56] <Checkzor> let me check
#627 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> You don't know?
#628 [01:56] <cantuse> no i payed for it it owuld work then now it dont
#629 [01:56] <Checkzor> 32bit
#630 [01:57] <xales> Checkzor: OK, run these commands
#631 [01:57] <xales> sudo su
#632 [01:57] <cantuse> yeah
#633 [01:57] <xales> cd /opt/
#634 [01:57] <xales> wget http://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en_US/-/USD/VerifyItem-Start/jre-6u23-linux-i586.bin?BundledLineItemUUID=EOCJ_hCvL3AAAAEt5BYpG9W1&OrderID=XHGJ_hCvGh0AAAEt0RYpG9W1&ProductID=IDWJ_hCw_XAAAAEsU8wcKluy&FileName=/jre-6u23-linux-i586.bin
#635 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> You're going to need to give me more information then "it crashes" and "it used to work"
#636 [01:57] <Checkzor> k
#637 [01:57] <TheBix> hey
#638 [01:57] <xales> let me know once that is done, Checkzor
#639 [01:57] <TheBix> my java crashes when I get into a multiplayer gamea
#640 [01:58] <TheBix> I get: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005)
#641 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Bix, pastebin.com the entire report
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#643 [01:59] <Sqozza> lol, didn't notice a certain ConMan8 kicked me.
#644 [01:59] <Sqozza> :3
#645 [01:59] <TheBix> ok
#646 [01:59] <cantuse> i dont get it it used to work but now it dont work at all
#647 [01:59] <xales> cantuse: Why does it not work
#648 [01:59] <TheBix> http://pastebin.com/GBtpfEG8
#649 [02:00] <cantuse> it goes to the magjong screen then colses
#650 [02:00] <TheBix> can you take a look at that please
#651 [02:00] <xales> Is there an error report?
#652 [02:00] <cantuse> no
#653 [02:00] <cantuse> no error
#654 [02:00] <xales> Did you look?
#655 [02:00] <cantuse> just closes and no wrror
#656 [02:00] <xales> TheBix: Firewall?
#657 [02:00] <TheBix> uhhh no?
#658 [02:00] <cantuse> nop error
#659 [02:00] <xales> cantuse: Error reports show up as .txt files in the folder with minecraft.exe in it
#660 [02:01] <TheBix> oh I know what happened
#661 [02:01] <TheBix> some how it jumped to an invalid address
#662 [02:01] <TheBix> but why?
#663 [02:01] <cantuse> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x7c910ef4, pid=4272, tid=684 # # JRE version: 6.0_23-b05 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (19.0-b09 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [ntdll.dll+0x10ef4] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: #
#664 [02:01] <xales> cantuse: Don't paste it in here
#665 [02:01] <xales> use http://pastebin.com/
#666 [02:01] <TheBix> anyway I need to go for a few hours :( i'll be back
#667 [02:02] <TheBix> hope you can help
#668 [02:02] <Checkzor> hmm, give me a few minutes @xales girlfriend just came over unexpectedly.
#669 [02:02] <Checkzor> I do very much appreciate your help.
#670 [02:03] <xales> mhmm
#671 [02:04] <cantuse> pastebin.com #1 paste tool since 2002 * new * archive * help * API Recent Posts Anonymous ASM (NASM) | 2 sec ago Anonymous None | 6 sec ago Anonymous None | 51 sec ago Anonymous None | 56 sec ago Anonymous None | 1 min ago Anonymous None | 1 min ago Anonymous None | 1 min ago Anonymous None | 2 min ago Pastebin Mobile You can now share data
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#674 [02:08] <xales> um...ok
#675 [02:08] <xales> that guy was...
#676 [02:08] <xales> ._.
#677 [02:09] * xales stabs Kealper
#677 [02:09] <Kealper> rawr
#678 [02:09] <xales> look up a tiny bit
#679 [02:09] <Kealper> lolwut
#680 [02:10] <Kealper> not sure what to say to that lol
#681 [02:10] <xales> "how dumb does one get"?
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#684 [02:10] <xales> lol
#685 [02:10] <lemon-rev> u really dont wanta know
#686 [02:10] <Kealper> owned
#687 [02:10] <xales> inb4 ban evade
#688 [02:11] <Kealper> what is up with all the stupid tonight
#689 [02:11] <xales> no idea
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#691 [02:13] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com/AEBezJUs again with the stupid, from query with red lol
#692 [02:14] <Kealper> he really seems like a 14 year old who likes to have the last word
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#695 [02:18] <xales> lol
#696 [02:18] <xales> 02:17:42 <Red_M> go away
#697 [02:18] <xales> 02:17:57 <xales> I'm not in a channel with you
#698 [02:18] <xales> 02:17:58 <Red_M> and NEVER EVER TALK TO ME AGAIN
#699 [02:18] <xales> 02:18:02 <xales> why not
#700 [02:18] <Kealper> lol
#701 [02:18] <Sqozza> LOL
#702 [02:19] <AnthonyANI> Hello. My classic Minecraft server (MCLawl) is not receiving a heartbeat from Minecraft.net. Minecraft.net classic multiplayer seems to have just returned online today with a very small list. Is there anything I can do about this?
#703 [02:19] <xales> AnthonyANI: I believe you would need to wait for MCLawl to be updated
#704 [02:19] <xales> ROFL
#705 [02:19] <xales> 02:19:18 DCC CHAT from Red_M [122.104.165.9 port 4990]
#706 [02:19] <AnthonyANI> Dang...hah
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#708 [02:20] <AnthonyANI> Who knows where the dev went O.o
#709 [02:20] <Mikau> Devin? He's at the store buying ice cream.
#710 [02:20] <Mikau> I call him "The Devster" personally.
#711 [02:20] <xales> lololol
#712 [02:20] <xales> 02:18:49 <Red_M> I SAID
#713 [02:20] <xales> 02:19:10 <xales> what did you say?
#714 [02:20] <xales> 02:19:39 <Red_M> I SAID FUCK OFF
#715 [02:20] <xales> 02:19:49 <Red_M> AND LEAVE ME ALONE
#716 [02:20] <xales> 02:20:03 <xales> do you really think I would DCC with you
#717 [02:20] <xales> 02:20:37 <Red_M> GO AWAY FOR THE 500TH TIME
#718 [02:21] <xales> 02:20:46 <xales> you didn't say "GO AWAY" 500 times
#719 [02:21] <AnthonyANI> No..haha the developer for MCLawl: MCZall or Lawlcat..
#720 [02:21] <AnthonyANI> Or any of their helpers
#721 [02:22] <Kealper> *coughcough*
#722 [02:22] <AnthonyANI> Can I verify that the method of heartbeats or ports for Minecraft classic have changed?
#723 [02:22] <xales> They have
#724 [02:22] <xales> 02:21:49 <xales> anyway, even if I wanted to DCC with you, I couldn't. Your whole IP range is in my firewall now!
#725 [02:22] <xales> 02:22:00 <Red_M> FUCK OFF
#726 [02:22] <AnthonyANI> Hmm..would it be a port or something I couldnt do about..
#727 [02:23] <xales> AnthonyANI: I believe the URL changed
#728 [02:23] <xales> you could edit mclawl yourself, but thats about it I think
#729 [02:23] <AnthonyANI> Ah ok, Ill check into that. Thanks for the help.
#730 [02:23] <xales> trolololol
#731 [02:24] <xales> trying to join other Minecraft channels
#732 [02:25] * xales pokes Kealper
#732 [02:26] <Kealper> rawr?
#733 [02:26] <xales> look at mcchatter
#734 [02:26] <xales> lulz
#735 [02:26] <xales> and he tried to join #minecraft too
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#737 [02:31] <Squida> hello
#738 [02:31] <xales> hello
#739 [02:31] <Squida> :D
#740 [02:31] <Squida> i have minecraft!
#741 [02:32] * Squida wants to know what server he can play on o_o
#741 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#742 [02:32] <Squida> danke
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#744 [02:34] <cant> anyon here?
#745 [02:34] <xales> nope
#746 [02:34] <cant> i cant get into minecrafr i boiugh it as awell
#747 [02:35] <lemon-rev> whats it not doing
#748 [02:35] <cant> iot gotos the monjang productions then it crashes
#749 [02:35] <lemon-rev> does it quit out of it and go back to windows or does it give you an error and what operating system are you on
#750 [02:36] <cant> no justs quit and goto windows
#751 [02:36] <cant> im running XP
#752 [02:36] <lemon-rev> ok
#753 [02:36] <lemon-rev> goto java.com and update java just to make sure its uptodate
#754 [02:37] <cant> ok sec
#755 [02:38] <Squida> i can play multi on beta 1.2_01 right?
#756 [02:38] <cant> its the most up to date version
#757 [02:38] <lemon-rev> ok cant
#758 [02:38] <lemon-rev> squida if you have brought it and you have loged in to the game yes
#759 [02:39] <Squida> ok sweet
#760 [02:39] <lemon-rev> cant, when you ran minecraft did it download any files ?
#761 [02:39] <cant> yeah i dod the %thing% befor ehand and still it crashes
#762 [02:40] <lemon-rev> hm
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#764 [02:40] <lemon-rev> can you goto my documents / computer name / appdata / .minecraft and tell us if its got folders in there at all ?
#765 [02:41] <cant> it has the minecraft ones but i tried deleting-repointenign it it still crashes\
#766 [02:41] <lemon-rev> hm
#767 [02:41] <lemon-rev> what you mean its got minecraft ones
#768 [02:41] <lemon-rev> does it have a bin directory ?
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#770 [02:42] <cant> where doi look/
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#772 [02:44] <lemon-rev> where i told you in my documents
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#774 [02:44] <cant> ok what do i do therer
#775 [02:45] <lemon-rev> my documents / computer name / appdata / .minecraft <
#776 [02:45] <lemon-rev> can you see the directory and inside .minecraft < is there a bin directory
#777 [02:46] <cant> nope to nin ther eimm ruining XP
#778 [02:46] <lemon-rev> ? wtf, im asking you to look is the .minecraft directory there ?
#779 [02:47] <cant> theres nothing there lol
#780 [02:47] <lemon-rev> ok thats what i needed
#781 [02:47] <cant> lol
#782 [02:47] <cant> my bd
#783 [02:47] <cant> bad
#784 [02:47] <lemon-rev> hm, when did you dwonload minecraft the game ?
#785 [02:48] <cant> when i bought it
#786 [02:48] <xales> wait, my documents? no, no
#787 [02:48] <xales> cant: open start->run
#788 [02:48] <xales> type in %appdata%
#789 [02:48] <xales> and click run
#790 [02:48] <lemon-rev> hm,
#791 [02:48] <lemon-rev> xales hes running xp not win 7
#792 [02:49] <cant> i did that and deleted minecraft but it thsill crahses
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#794 [02:49] <xales> lemon-rev: that works on XP too
#795 [02:49] <lemon-rev> k
#796 [02:49] <xales> cant: Is there a crash report?
#797 [02:50] <cant> umm
#798 [02:50] <cant> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6ce26324, pid=2400, tid=332 # # JRE version: 6.0_23-b05 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (19.0-b09 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [DINPUT8.dll+0x16324] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: #
#799 [02:51] <cant> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x7c910ef4, pid=3952, tid=3488 # # JRE version: 6.0_23-b05 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (19.0-b09 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [ntdll.dll+0x10ef4] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: #
#800 [02:51] <xales> Don't paste it in here
#801 [02:51] <xales> put it on pastebin.com
#802 [02:51] <cant> MY b
#803 [02:52] <cant> I JUST DONT GET IT LOL
#804 [02:52] <cant> sorry for caps
#805 [02:53] <lemon-rev> xales could be older minecraft exe could be trouble ?
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#807 [02:54] <TheBix> ok guys
#808 [02:54] <TheBix> I'm back!
#809 [02:54] * Kealper hides
#809 [02:54] <TheBix> heres my problem
#810 [02:54] <xales> lemon-rev: Doubt it
#811 [02:54] <xales> cant: you need to paste it in the box on pastebin.com
#812 [02:54] <TheBix> I'm hooking some native functions called by the jvm
#813 [02:54] <lemon-rev> k
#814 [02:55] <xales> click 'submit'
#815 [02:55] <cant> i dont get it tit used to work but now it juct closes/crashes
#816 [02:55] <xales> and paste the link it sent you to in here
#817 [02:55] <TheBix> if I don't have my hook "active" it works fine
#818 [02:55] <xales> cant: You need to put the error report on pastebin.com
#819 [02:55] <Checkzor> Alright Xales, I'm back girlfriend just left, we had a good time :P. However I'm now tired I'll probably be on tomorrow night asking for help. Thanks again.
#820 [02:55] <TheBix> if it is "active" my minecraft crashes
#821 [02:55] <TheBix> why?
#822 [02:55] <TheBix> well actually I know why it crashes, but how do I stop it.
#823 [02:56] <xales> Checkzor: No problem
#824 [02:56] <TheBix> heres my error: http://pastebin.com/GBtpfEG8
#825 [02:57] <xales> any mods, TheBix?
#826 [02:57] <TheBix> nup
#827 [02:57] <xales> lol, that guy...how do you fail to pastebin something ._.
#828 [02:57] <xales> anyway
#829 [02:57] <TheBix> what?
#830 [02:57] <xales> Try reinstalling I guess
#831 [02:57] <TheBix> nah its something to do with my hook
#832 [02:57] <xales> TheBix: There was a guy in here just now who failed to use pastebin ._.
#833 [02:58] <TheBix> I'm hooking native functions that the JVM calls
#834 [02:58] <xales> oh
#835 [02:58] <xales> that is probably then
#836 [02:58] <TheBix> if I have my hook "installed" it crashes, but if not it doesn't
#837 [02:58] <TheBix> it runs fine for a few calls
#838 [02:58] <TheBix> but when I join a server and the number of calls per unit of time increases, it eventually just exits
#839 [02:59] <xales> How are you hooking it?
#840 [02:59] <TheBix> changing the code at the start of the function I'm hooking
#841 [02:59] <TheBix> I have no idea why that screws stuff up because I'm not changing part of the JVM
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#844 [03:01] <TheBix> it seems to me that somehow java gets an invalid function pointer, since it appears to be trying to execute memory that isn't marked as executable.
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#846 [03:03] <xales> are you sure you are hooking it properly?
#847 [03:04] <TheBix> yes. it works fine when I'm not in a server
#848 [03:04] <xales> no idea then =\
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#850 [03:07] <TheBix> l have thought of a bunch of possible work arounds
#851 [03:07] <TheBix> but they all take a while to make
#852 [03:09] <TheBix> BTW other people seem to be having the same problem with 100% clean versions of minecraft, so maybe someone here has a solution
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#858 [03:29] <aetherian> oh, that was a funny movie
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#861 [03:36] <TheBix> xales: I appear to have fixed my problem
#862 [03:36] <TheBix> but thanks for trying ;)
#863 [03:37] <xales> No problem
#864 [03:49] <aetherian> night
#865 [03:49] <xales> bye aetherian
#866 [03:49] <aetherian> won't be back for a while tomorrow
#867 [03:49] <aetherian> going to visit my aunt with the family >.>
#868 [03:49] <aetherian> uncle isn't even going to be there...
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#871 [04:03] <Misan> i need help with php and all these php channels cant help me v_v
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#873 [04:04] <xales> anything specific?
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#875 [04:10] <TheBix> windows is annoying :(
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#884 [05:13] <Lexshu> why does the minecart not work proberly on a priv serv? it eats the coal really fast..
#885 [05:14] <Roenie> blocks i place in a certain area are automatically removed, but it is far from the spawn
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#887 [05:14] <Roenie> its also not a missing chunk, how is that possible?
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#889 [05:15] <JuroMan> hi there... i need help setting up my server. it says: Failed to assemble heartbeat. and tries to get contents of http://50.16.200.224/heartbeat.jsp. is it down atm?
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#891 [05:19] <Joeybanes> Hello! So I recently purchased Minecraft, and after downloading the .exe upon attempting to log in it does not let me do so with an error "user not premium". Trying the web browser version just asks me to buy the game. Did I miss something here?
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#894 [05:20] <Roenie> Joeybanes, are you trying to log on to a mc game server with a whitelist?
#895 [05:21] <Roenie> where does it fail, at first login prompt (user/pass), or when joining server?
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#897 [05:21] <Joeybanes> Roenie first log in prompt
#898 [05:21] <Roenie> try !paid username
#899 [05:22] <Roenie> !paid Roenie82
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#901 [05:22] <Joeybanes> !paid joeybanes
#902 [05:22] <JuroMan> !paid JuroMan
#903 [05:22] <JuroMan> :)
#904 [05:22] <SinZ> !paid SinZ
#905 [05:22] <SinZ> !paid S1NZ
#906 [05:23] <SinZ> did i freeze the bot?
#907 [05:23] <SinZ> !paid S1NZ
#908 [05:23] <SinZ> or not
#909 [05:23] <Joeybanes> well the billing went through on my CC far as I can tell, is there a delay on the actual transaction?
#910 [05:23] <SinZ> =P
#911 [05:23] <SinZ> how does AuBot check
#912 [05:23] <Roenie> define " recently"
#913 [05:23] <Joeybanes> about 40 minutes ago
#914 [05:23] <Roenie> ...
#915 [05:23] <Roenie> try again tomorrow
#916 [05:24] <lukegb> SinZ: I think it hits the paid.jsp uri
#917 [05:25] <SinZ> i remember in the beta update
#918 [05:25] <SinZ> notch made a mistake and had some debug files in the resource
#919 [05:25] <Joeybanes> So somehow I did miss something regarding when i am able to actually log in? I am not trying to be daft here, hence why i did mention/ask if I had missed something
#920 [05:25] <SinZ> and it revealed the location of how it makes accounts premium
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#923 [05:34] <AmonT> I'm having so much trouble starting up Minecraft. I've tried to follow the guidelines in the links, yet...
#924 [05:34] <AmonT> Vista and 1,6Ghz 2GB RAM
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#926 [05:35] <AmonT> my OS in Norwegian
#927 [05:36] <JuroMan> okay... i got my server running now. could s.o. please remove the old files from here: http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp (i got there using google)
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#931 [05:47] <Anarchy> sooooo just a idea, notch should suck a dick and worship the god of indie gaming terry cavenaugh
#932 [05:48] <Anarchy> Notch is such a arrogant wannabe indie devloper
#933 [05:48] <Anarchy> i made game where you dig and shit
#934 [05:48] <Anarchy> awesome
#935 [05:48] <Anarchy> you guys take notchs dick hard?
#936 [05:48] <Anarchy> faggots
#937 [05:48] <Anarchy> why
#938 [05:49] <Anarchy> do
#939 [05:49] <Anarchy> you
#940 [05:49] <Anarchy> people
#941 [05:49] <Anarchy> not
#942 [05:49] <Anarchy> fucking
#943 [05:49] <Anarchy> talk
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#945 [05:49] <Anarchy> oh i know why you guys dont, you guys have notchs dick in your mouth
#946 [05:50] <cookie> i love notch
#947 [05:50] <Solvius> huh ?
#948 [05:50] <Anarchy> all you guys do, even though he sucks dick as a dev
#949 [05:51] <cookie> danm sexy man
#950 [05:51] <Anarchy> Minecraft is just virtual fucking legos
#951 [05:51] <cookie> you want join us
#952 [05:51] <AmonT> MY mc won't launch. java will exit right away
#953 [05:51] <Anarchy> already tried it, worst indie game of the year
#954 [05:52] <Anarchy> see his scripting sucks balls
#955 [05:52] <cookie> suck his too
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#957 [05:53] <Solvius> calling names helps?
#958 [05:54] <Anarchy> he does when he deserves it
#959 [05:54] <Anarchy> it*
#960 [05:54] <Anarchy> fucking horrible dev
#961 [05:54] <Solvius> what, did you ask him to do it ?
#962 [05:55] <Anarchy> wait what?
#963 [05:55] <Solvius> switching topics now, what succesfull game did you make, i want to play it
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#966 [05:56] <Anarchy> I myself, Im not too big on deving, but i know a good one when i see it like i said terry cavenaugh is a good dev, notch is not
#967 [05:56] <Anarchy> VVVVVV awesome game, awesome music. Minecraft lame ass legos with some zombies
#968 [05:56] <Solvius> so you made nothing and even admitt you cant, so... that leaves us with... what ?
#969 [05:57] <Anarchy> with knowledge of a good dev
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#971 [05:57] <Solvius> well, notch is famous, yur ehmm, nothing ?
#972 [05:57] <Anarchy> Notch famous?
#973 [05:57] <Anarchy> LOL
#974 [05:57] <joeybanes> Personally I have asked a sincere 2 part question and got a smug answer even after I re-stated that I had asked 2 things
#975 [05:57] <Anarchy> Nay bro
#976 [05:58] <Anarchy> nay
#977 [05:58] <Solvius> I forget about you the minute you get kicked :)
#978 [05:58] <Anarchy> nay bro
#979 [05:58] <Anarchy> nay
#980 [05:58] <Solvius> good day to you sir, i have better things to do
#981 [05:58] <Anarchy> well looks like all the ops are too busy jerking off notch to kick me
#982 [05:58] <Anarchy> what
#983 [05:58] <Anarchy> sit on minecraft all day playing with dirt piles
#984 [05:58] <Anarchy> awesome day
#985 [05:58] <cookie> :(
#986 [05:59] <Anarchy> Minecraft is the only inide game i regret getting
#987 [05:59] <cookie> feeling left out Anarchy/
#988 [05:59] <AmonT> take ana with a grain of humour. xD
#989 [05:59] <Anarchy> cookie you must be retarded
#990 [05:59] <Anarchy> like trig palin retarded
#991 [06:00] <cookie> :p
#992 [06:00] <cookie> g
#993 [06:00] <cookie> r
#994 [06:00] <Solvius> this is fun as long as it takes :)
#995 [06:00] <Anarchy> i have said a few times i own the retarded game and its fucking horrible
#996 [06:00] <AmonT> how did you make it work?
#997 [06:00] <Anarchy> Notch is a little douche who thinks he made one game that took off so he must be amazing
#998 [06:00] <Solvius> do you yell at your computer when you own it ?
#999 [06:01] <Anarchy> their advice would be to tell you to wait
#1000 [06:01] <Anarchy> notch charges you and you dont get your proudect
#1001 [06:01] <Solvius> ok, while waiting do you then yell at your pc ?
#1002 [06:01] <Anarchy> product*
#1003 [06:01] <cookie> grim jk
#1004 [06:01] <Anarchy> fucking scammer
#1005 [06:01] <cookie> lmao
#1006 [06:02] <Solvius> een troll in minecraft help, lachen dit
#1007 [06:02] <Solvius> oops wrong room
#1008 [06:02] <Anarchy> ban me mother fuckers
#1009 [06:02] <AmonT> At least you got your game running on your PC. I can't make that happen on my
#1010 [06:02] <Anarchy> take notchs dick out of your mouths and ban me
#1011 [06:03] <AmonT> Got hooked on my godson's client
#1012 [06:03] <Solvius> AmonT they will help you when they are back
#1013 [06:03] <AmonT> Ok. :)
#1014 [06:03] <Anarchy> shitty customer service
#1015 [06:03] <joeybanes> And when will I get help?
#1016 [06:03] <Anarchy> and their advice will be wait
#1017 [06:03] <Anarchy> faggots
#1018 [06:03] <AmonT> I'm gonna light a fag in about thirty minutes or so
#1019 [06:04] <Solvius> as soon as someone is back that can help, I am only here to learn. got the game just two weeks or so
#1020 [06:04] <dack_x> I'll give you your money back if you'll be quiet.
#1021 [06:04] <AmonT> Cool, Solvius
#1022 [06:04] <Anarchy> whats to learn
#1023 [06:04] <AmonT> Where did you hear about Minecraft?
#1024 [06:04] <Anarchy> you dig and stack blocks
#1025 [06:04] <joeybanes> that was actually the advice I got to wait, but if there was an ACTUAL reason STATED as to why I need to wait, I would be fine with that
#1026 [06:04] <Anarchy> fucking fun
#1027 [06:04] <Solvius> from a friend
#1028 [06:05] <AmonT> I heard it from a blog. Sean Maelstrom. Great author
#1029 [06:05] <Anarchy> thats where everyone heard about it or from retarded notch fanboys
#1030 [06:05] <Anarchy> this is gonna be the only game he makes in a year no one will care
#1031 [06:05] <joeybanes> well someone tried to help but somehow decided to read my question to his/her liking and avoided a point in my question
#1032 [06:05] <Solvius> dont know him, I'm from holland
#1033 [06:05] <Anarchy> Amnesia: The Dark Descent there is a fucking good indie game
#1034 [06:06] <Anarchy> makes minecraft look like fucking childs play
#1035 [06:06] <AmonT> Hehe, off course. He writes about 'The Industry', Nintendo and in the beginning 'The Blue Ocean Strategy' and made a name for himself mocking 'hardcore' gamers
#1036 [06:07] <Anarchy> fuck casuals
#1037 [06:07] <Solvius> mocking hardcore gamers ? that can be fun :)
#1038 [06:07] <Anarchy> casuals ruin the game market
#1039 [06:07] <AmonT> casuals = normal people. :P
#1040 [06:07] <Anarchy> yeah not a gamer
#1041 [06:07] <Anarchy> go out and play a true hardcore indie game
#1042 [06:08] <joeybanes> Ok well I will sit here and wait for these people who can help and let the company enjoy my money while I enjoy not getting an answer, cool.
#1043 [06:08] <Anarchy> see he is the coolest
#1044 [06:08] <Anarchy> he faps with money then never gives people what they paid for
#1045 [06:08] <Solvius> Demise, rise of the kutan, then you will be busy for a couple of years Anarchy
#1046 [06:09] <Anarchy> on a serious note why the fuck arent these people getting help
#1047 [06:09] <Anarchy> they spent money on this shit game
#1048 [06:09] <joeybanes> indie?
#1049 [06:09] <Anarchy> so shouldnt they get some help
#1050 [06:09] <Solvius> this is not official, need official help, send a email to the official support :)
#1051 [06:10] <joeybanes> solvius
#1052 [06:10] <AmonT> It's probably because the helpers are in US and/or in a different timezone
#1053 [06:10] <joeybanes> maybe you can help me
#1054 [06:10] <Solvius> maybe :)
#1055 [06:10] <Anarchy> this will be worth a laugh or two
#1056 [06:11] <Anarchy> answer just wait a day
#1057 [06:11] <Anarchy> or so
#1058 [06:11] <joeybanes> earlier I stated that I had bought the game not to long ago, at this point about an hour ago, but when I try to log in I am told am I not a premium user....PRIOR to that I also asked if there may have been some information I missed
#1059 [06:11] <Anarchy> wait a month
#1060 [06:11] <Solvius> well... at leats one of us has fun then anarchy
#1061 [06:11] <Solvius> an hour ago ?
#1062 [06:11] <Anarchy> nah fuck it you dont get the game you paid for
#1063 [06:11] <joeybanes> so when someone tried to help me his reply was "how long did you wait??" to which i said "40 mins" he says 'try tomorrow"
#1064 [06:11] <joeybanes> I WOULD BE FINE with that
#1065 [06:11] <joeybanes> if he said why?
#1066 [06:11] <Anarchy> thats bullshit
#1067 [06:12] <Anarchy> you paid money get your game
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#1069 [06:12] <Solvius> then its not proccesed yet joeybanes
#1070 [06:12] <joeybanes> ok
#1071 [06:12] <Anarchy> god notch is a faggot
#1072 [06:12] <joeybanes> fair enough
#1073 [06:12] <joeybanes> is there a reason for an hour delay?
#1074 [06:12] <joeybanes> or more?
#1075 [06:12] <Anarchy> so notch can hack your bank account
#1076 [06:12] <Solvius> I think they manually check everything, but further I have no iade
#1077 [06:12] <Miner12345> hi all
#1078 [06:12] <Solvius> hi miner
#1079 [06:13] <Miner12345> Hi Solvius
#1080 [06:13] <Anarchy> fuck your ops suck massive dick for not banning me yet
#1081 [06:13] <joeybanes> ty solvius that was a much better answer than some elite "..... try tomorrow" tripe
#1082 [06:13] <joeybanes> sincerely thank you
#1083 [06:13] <Solvius> yw :)
#1084 [06:13] <Miner12345> just having a lot of issues w/ framerate... :(
#1085 [06:14] <Anarchy> game sucks thats why
#1086 [06:14] <Solvius> I have no ideas about framerates
#1087 [06:14] <Anarchy> and if your fps sucks in minecraft your comp is terrible
#1088 [06:14] <Anarchy> no offense
#1089 [06:14] <joeybanes> oh btw Solvius what is the usual wait time before one can play?
#1090 [06:14] <Solvius> can be an day, as I recall
#1091 [06:15] <Anarchy> cuntshitmotherfuckingcunt
#1092 [06:15] <joeybanes> wow, that is a bit much but what can I do
#1093 [06:15] <Anarchy> am i banned yet?
#1094 [06:15] <joeybanes> thank you again Solvius
#1095 [06:15] <Miner12345> ah, there's an ignore in this, thank notch! :)
#1096 [06:15] <Anarchy> why are all your ops idlers
#1097 [06:15] <Anarchy> notch didnt make irc
#1098 [06:15] <Solvius> I have no idea joe, normal procedure is to send an email to support
#1099 [06:16] <Miner12345> so yeah, no idea on framerates? just about the 1st major update after beta, after that i can start the game and get about 120+fps settings on high
#1100 [06:16] <Miner12345> and then all the sudden i'm getting 3-5 fps
#1101 [06:16] <Miner12345> once i just sit there, not even walking around
#1102 [06:17] <Anarchy> soooo im bored so notch is a faggot and a cunt and terrible devloper and shit so pass it on kthxbai
#1103 [06:17] <Solvius> I have no idea, I am not here to help, that do others, and they are not here at the moment sorry
#1104 [06:17] <Miner12345> ok np, i'll check back later
#1105 [06:17] <Miner12345> thansk!
#1106 [06:17] <Solvius> ok, yw
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#1108 [06:22] <TheReddeH> lo my fluffles
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#1110 [06:26] <DracoUK> hey
#1111 [06:27] <DracoUK> can anyone help?
#1112 [06:27] <DracoUK> pleaseee
#1113 [06:27] <TheReddeH> im always trying but never can :(
#1114 [06:27] <DracoUK> lol
#1115 [06:27] <DracoUK> i cant register to minecraft :/
#1116 [06:27] <TheReddeH> one day there will be a question i can answer :(
#1117 [06:28] <AmonT> How do I run Java in Virtual Memory?
#1118 [06:29] <AmonT> Everytime I log in, the game quits and makes txt file
#1119 [06:29] <AmonT> with some random numbers and letters
#1120 [06:29] <TheReddeH> you so need ops or voiced people for those questions ;p
#1121 [06:30] <TheReddeH> but if u need to know how to make a workbench in mc im ur guy!
#1122 [06:30] <DracoUK> I just wanna buy the game and play it
#1123 [06:30] <DracoUK> ...it wont let me
#1124 [06:31] <AmonT> hs_err_pid and some random numbers
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#1126 [06:32] <TheReddeH> while waiting for some1 to wake up and answer, why not enjoy a fun minecraft vid: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/2680-Minecraft
#1127 [06:33] <Solvius> AmonT did you have the latest updat of java ?
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#1129 [06:35] <Solvius> furthermore, I am in the same situation as TheReddeH, need a workbench, I am also your guy :)
#1130 [06:38] <DracoUK> has anyone got a spare free acount i can use atleast?
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#1132 [06:42] <DracoUK> i'll do it
#1133 [06:42] <DracoUK> fucking help me you shit cunts
#1134 [06:42] <DracoUK> fucking help me you shit cunts
#1135 [06:42] <DracoUK> fucking help me you shit cunts
#1136 [06:42] <DracoUK> fucking help me you shit cunts
#1137 [06:42] <DracoUK> fucking help me you shit cunts
#1138 [06:42] <DracoUK> fucking help me you shit cunts
#1139 [06:42] <DracoUK> fucking help me you shit cunts
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#1141 [06:42] <AmonT> yes latest java
#1142 [06:42] <DracoUK> o0
#1143 [06:43] <TheReddeH> hah like anyones going to help that kid now :>
#1144 [06:43] <Mas3212> lol
#1145 [06:43] <TheReddeH> what an idiot
#1146 [06:44] <DracoUK> ..
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#1148 [06:44] <DracoUK> the room is full of people
#1149 [06:44] <DracoUK> yet only 4 talk
#1150 [06:45] <Swordsworn> so nobody need help ;>
#1151 [06:46] <AmonT> Some are likely just logging and look after true questions asked and patience. Besides, unofficial chat-support. Should be underlined on the website
#1152 [06:46] <TheReddeH> too late ;p
#1153 [06:47] <AmonT> T_T
#1154 [06:47] <TheReddeH> i bet when he finally gets minecraft hell build a world that revolves around him
#1155 [06:48] <AmonT> i'm gonna build undercity
#1156 [06:48] <TheReddeH> whuzzat
#1157 [06:49] <AmonT> cave city
#1158 [06:49] <TheReddeH> cool
#1159 [06:49] <AmonT> and post vid
#1160 [06:50] <Swordsworn> btw does anyone knows when the serverclient gets the update?
#1161 [06:51] <TheReddeH> i bet notch does
#1162 [06:52] <Swordsworn> i hope so ^^
#1163 [06:53] <AmonT> Well, I just need to play some WoW now. Anyone wanna join me?
#1164 [06:54] <TheReddeH> i dont have wow :(
#1165 [06:54] <TheReddeH> never even pld it
#1166 [06:54] <AmonT> Stay away from it, if you are like me
#1167 [06:54] <TheReddeH> done ;p
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#1169 [06:55] <TheReddeH> is it worse than x3?
#1170 [06:55] <AmonT> x3?
#1171 [06:55] <TheReddeH> x3: tc ;p
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#1173 [06:56] <TheReddeH> guess u have not played it ;p
#1174 [06:56] * Roenie slaps you-know-who
#1174 [06:57] <AmonT> No. I don't play MMO's in general
#1175 [06:57] <TheReddeH> its not an MMO ;p
#1176 [06:58] <AmonT> And I'm thinking about quitting WoW if I get Minecraft to work on my old computer
#1177 [06:58] <Roenie> quitting WoW should really be a no brainer
#1178 [06:58] <Roenie> ;x
#1179 [06:59] <AmonT> I just need help from Minecraft to get WoW out of my mind
#1180 [06:59] <Roenie> TheReddeH, i build a water ladder and cart track in my mine
#1181 [06:59] <Roenie> built*
#1182 [06:59] <Roenie> station is next
#1183 [06:59] <Roenie> small one
#1184 [06:59] <Roenie> question:
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#1186 [06:59] <TheReddeH> 42
#1187 [07:00] <Roenie> what happens if 2 players in a minecart are on the same track on collision course?
#1188 [07:00] <AmonT> Man, I wish my godson didn't introduce me to Minecraft
#1189 [07:00] <TheReddeH> godfather? is that really you?!
#1190 [07:01] <TheReddeH> *kisses ring*
#1191 [07:01] <AmonT> Hehe, yes. But, I'm not married yet. Hoho
#1192 [07:01] <Roenie> TheReddeH, i think we need 2 tracks between each station/point, one for each direction
#1193 [07:01] <TheReddeH> santa is that really you?
#1194 [07:01] <TheReddeH> *asks for pwesents*
#1195 [07:01] <EchoDH> Got a slight problem, when i try to connect to a server my java CPU usage jumps up to 50% and system idle to 50% as well, crashing firefox. Only way to stop it is to ctrl+alt+del and close java.exe, then system idle jumps to 100% cpu usage (but doesnt acually use anymore than normal) i can still play beta fine and the single player creative.
#1196 [07:02] <AmonT> Only if you help me getting Minecraft to work
#1197 [07:02] <TheReddeH> Roenie: no shit sherlock :>
#1198 [07:02] <Roenie> unless...there is only 1 cart per track trajectory
#1199 [07:02] <EchoDH> any ideas around this? i was on minecraft about 10 mins ago with no issues
#1200 [07:02] <Roenie> hm no that would suck
#1201 [07:03] <EchoDH> ive tried restarting my pc, reinstalling java, removing any extra java versions. still no luck
#1202 [07:04] <AmonT> Oh. Restart. Why didn't that occur to me. Thanks Echo (I hope it'll work out the cinchs)
#1203 [07:04] <Roenie> <- mc
#1204 [07:05] <EchoDH> whats up with yours AmonT?
#1205 [07:05] <EchoDH> lol
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#1207 [07:14] <EchoDH> i did then i found one on the keybaord
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#1217 [08:07] <Lexshu> a mate of mine tryed to use bukkit on his server but when he does that he cannot connect to the server, timedout
#1218 [08:08] <EchoDH> What is he putting in the ip box?
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#1220 [08:10] <Lexshu> we played on his server yesterday and the day before where he used his internal ip, after the bukkit he cant connect to same ip
#1221 [08:11] <Lexshu> any idea what we are doing wrong?
#1222 [08:11] <EchoDH> hmmm
#1223 [08:12] <EchoDH> well, sounds like a bukkit problem, i dont run bukkit so i wouldnt know, ask on their forums. Id suggest trying to use his external ip
#1224 [08:12] <EchoDH> can anyone else connect?
#1225 [08:13] <jal0kin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZBiJgmNdyM
#1226 [08:13] <jal0kin> I used this guide.
#1227 [08:13] <jal0kin> And when I run Server_start.bat it wont let me connect.
#1228 [08:14] <EchoDH> What are you putting int he IP box?
#1229 [08:14] <jal0kin> My internal ip
#1230 [08:14] <EchoDH> Try internalIP, external and "localhost"
#1231 [08:14] <jal0kin> Which is the right one.
#1232 [08:14] <EchoDH> all 3 *should* work
#1233 [08:15] <EchoDH> if none works, i suggest finding another guide or asking on the bukkit forums. sadly since i dont run bukkit i cant help there
#1234 [08:15] <lukegb> Try #bukkit
#1235 [08:15] <EchoDH> (remeber to take quotation marks off localhost when you use that one)
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#1237 [08:17] <EchoDH> http://pastebin.com/9d3svdj8
#1238 [08:17] <EchoDH> if anyone wants to take a crack at that problem itd be appreciated
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#1240 [08:26] <Lexshu> EchoDH is it possible to have nether world on a priv serv?
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#1242 [08:29] <EchoDH> yes
#1243 [08:29] <EchoDH> set hellworld true
#1244 [08:29] <EchoDH> also define private server?
#1245 [08:29] <jal0kin> it just spawns us in a hell world.
#1246 [08:30] <Lexshu> well he putt it on as tru but the nwe spawned down there
#1247 [08:30] <jal0kin> what he means with private server is a dedicated server (im hosting it form my own computer)
#1248 [08:30] <EchoDH> thats the only way to get to nether now
#1249 [08:30] <jal0kin> Thats gay..
#1250 [08:30] <EchoDH> portals will not work till notch gets to fixing them
#1251 [08:30] <Lexshu> k but whats with the gate u can build?
#1252 [08:30] <jal0kin> We wont be able to get back to out house or nething then, right?
#1253 [08:30] <EchoDH> you build the gate for single player
#1254 [08:30] <Lexshu> k
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#1256 [08:30] <EchoDH> no
#1257 [08:31] <EchoDH> nether worlds are generated seperate to normal
#1258 [08:31] <EchoDH> so if you generate a nether world for online theres no way to get to a normal world
#1259 [08:31] <EchoDH> Portals work in single player still
#1260 [08:31] <Lexshu> k but it will be fixed?
#1261 [08:31] <Lexshu> for dedicated server
#1262 [08:31] <EchoDH> eventually
#1263 [08:32] <Lexshu> k
#1264 [08:32] <EchoDH> at the rate of fixes currently your looking at a few months
#1265 [08:32] <Lexshu> k
#1266 [08:32] <ConMan8> Notch doesn't seem to want to 'fix' portals in SMP
#1267 [08:32] <EchoDH> Notch doesnt seam to want to do much right now
#1268 [08:32] <jal0kin> Must be gay.
#1269 [08:33] <Lexshu> we cant seem to get mods to work with bukkit
#1270 [08:33] <ConMan8> Well, he IS on vacation
#1271 [08:33] <EchoDH> Portals are a difficult one from what i can see
#1272 [08:33] * ConMan8 looks at the SMP multiworld exploit
#1272 [08:33] <ConMan8> Yeah. Difficult.
#1273 [08:33] <EchoDH> Essentially youd need to run two maps side by side
#1274 [08:33] <ConMan8> And that can be done..
#1275 [08:33] <EchoDH> diffuclt for notch
#1276 [08:34] <EchoDH> since he always does things in a roundabout way
#1277 [08:34] <EchoDH> multiworld has been out for ages in creative, im not suprised modders can do it in smp.
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#1279 [08:35] <EchoDH> Lexshu ask on #bukkit
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#1281 [08:37] <Lexshu> k
#1282 [08:38] <Lexshu> irc channel bukkit
#1283 [08:38] <Lexshu> or u mean the hp?
#1284 [08:38] <EchoDH> irc channel, and forums. both.
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#1286 [08:38] <EchoDH> i dont use bukkit so i cant help you there.
#1287 [08:39] <BaconMan8> /join #bukkit
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#1290 [08:41] <EchoDH> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=160526 Anyone able to help my problem?
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#1296 [08:59] <EchoDH> aight im off
#1297 [08:59] <EchoDH> hopefully someone'll get to that thread
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#1301 [09:05] <Matthias> hello
#1302 [09:05] <CnapKu> Heya all
#1303 [09:05] <CnapKu> what's going on with the servers?
#1304 [09:06] <Matthias> i have a small question
#1305 [09:06] <Matthias> where can i find a custom server which can be run on a linux debian mashine?
#1306 [09:06] <Matthias> or where can i find a server.properties configuration list?
#1307 [09:07] <Matthias> does anyone know?
#1308 [09:11] <CnapKu> hey admins, what's going on with the servers?
#1309 [09:11] <BaconMan8> !server
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#1311 [09:13] <BaconMan8> Matthias
#1312 [09:13] <Matthias> yeah
#1313 [09:14] <BaconMan8> CnapKu: If you're talking about Classic, they aren't really working right now.. but mollstam is on the job for most of his waking hours
#1314 [09:15] <Matthias> baconman8: i allready have a server running from minecraft.net server software
#1315 [09:15] <Matthias> but i saw some servers with custom things on it
#1316 [09:16] <Matthias> and i just wonders which settings i can add in the default server.properties
#1317 [09:16] <BaconMan8> Well it seems to current 'awesome custom server mod' thing right now is Bukkit
#1318 [09:16] <BaconMan8> You can set PvP, monsters, farm-animals, nether mode
#1319 [09:17] <Matthias> okay cool
#1320 [09:17] <BaconMan8> and the file itself already has everything in it
#1321 [09:17] <Matthias> and what is the smp stand for?
#1322 [09:17] <BaconMan8> Survival MultiPlayer
#1323 [09:17] <Matthias> okay cool
#1324 [09:17] <Matthias> and what is the minecraft.net server mode?
#1325 [09:18] <BaconMan8> Server mode?
#1326 [09:19] <Matthias> yeah. which mode have the default server from minecraft.net if i just run it without something
#1327 [09:19] <Matthias> sorry im new to miencraft and interesst a lot in it :)
#1328 [09:20] <BaconMan8> err.. well, the only communication between your server and minecraft.net is authentication for clients trying to connect to your server, which you can even disable by setting offline-mode to true
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#1330 [09:23] <Matthias> okay so i will read a bit more about minecraft
#1331 [09:23] <Matthias> and thanks baconman8
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#1333 [09:29] <CnapKu> Baconman thanks about the info :)
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#1341 [09:46] <NukeACitrus> Hey guys
#1342 [09:46] <NukeACitrus> Does anyone have experience with the biomesterrain mod? Want to get it working on my SMP server. No luck so far
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#1349 [09:58] <robolegoman4295> Anyone here...?
#1350 [09:58] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#1351 [09:58] <robolegoman4295> Needing some help
#1352 [09:58] <SkiingPenguins> with what?
#1353 [09:58] <robolegoman4295> Setting up a classic minecraft server
#1354 [09:58] <robolegoman4295> I set environmental variables
#1355 [09:58] <robolegoman4295> java/jre and all that
#1356 [09:58] <robolegoman4295> And now it can't load the "heartbeat"
#1357 [09:58] <SkiingPenguins> i know nothing about classic servers, sorry.
#1358 [09:58] <mollstam> :o
#1359 [09:59] <robolegoman4295> Anyone help with it?
#1360 [09:59] <mollstam> actually, do you get any specific error from the hb?
#1361 [09:59] <mollstam> like an exception or w/e
#1362 [09:59] <robolegoman4295> well
#1363 [09:59] <robolegoman4295> How 'bout I pastebin it for you
#1364 [09:59] <mollstam> rock'n'roll
#1365 [10:00] <robolegoman4295> http://mibpaste.com/iaHmYU
#1366 [10:00] <Zw> what is this error? http://pastebin.com/dPUtprXx
#1367 [10:00] <robolegoman4295> so yeah, there is my error
#1368 [10:01] <mollstam> robolegoman4295: humm, that's didn't give much
#1369 [10:01] <robolegoman4295> My network is locked
#1370 [10:01] <robolegoman4295> is that a problem?
#1371 [10:01] <mollstam> although I'm currently uploading (and soon deploying) an update to the site that logs heartbeat exceptions
#1372 [10:01] <mollstam> in an attempt to become a wee bit wiser
#1373 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> Zw, that's an unusual error, is that from a modded server?
#1374 [10:02] <robolegoman4295> Hey Grey
#1375 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> Yo
#1376 [10:02] <robolegoman4295> Same error
#1377 [10:02] <robolegoman4295> heartbeat error for me
#1378 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> mollstam here will fix it for you in good time
#1379 [10:02] <Zw> what is this error? http://pastebin.com/dPUtprXx
#1380 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> He's Da Man for this stuff
#1381 [10:02] <mollstam> waddap
#1382 [10:02] <robolegoman4295> So...
#1383 [10:03] <robolegoman4295> how do I fix heartbeat error?
#1384 [10:03] <robolegoman4295> http://mibpaste.com/0XjgEq
#1385 [10:03] <mollstam> well it raises 500 if some of the request parameters are null/empty
#1386 [10:03] <mollstam> question is, which one?
#1387 [10:03] <mollstam> robolegoman4295: I fix
#1388 [10:03] <mollstam> buckle up Dorothy
#1389 [10:03] <robolegoman4295> Ok
#1390 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> Zw - I asked you if that was from a modded server or not?
#1391 [10:05] <robolegoman4295> Moll - what do you have to do to fix?
#1392 [10:06] <mollstam> find out what the problem is
#1393 [10:06] <mollstam> you're not the only one having trouble with hb atm
#1394 [10:07] <robolegoman4295> Do I have to add it to my router as a wireless server?
#1395 [10:07] <robolegoman4295> I saw someone on youtube do that
#1396 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1397 [10:07] <robolegoman4295> hmm k
#1398 [10:07] <mollstam> wireless server? :S
#1399 [10:08] <Zw> Grey, im running bukkit
#1400 [10:08] <Zw> no plugins tho
#1401 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, are you running the latest snapshot? How did you install it? Did you follow the guide?
#1402 [10:09] <Zw> yes, and did a clean install
#1403 [10:09] <Zw> it happens after 10 min + of running the server
#1404 [10:10] <robolegoman4295> Hey moll, how much time for a fix?
#1405 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> Zw - Looks like... a bug with bukkit's chunk generation
#1406 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> You'll get a clearer answer from #bukkit, but that's the risk you run with an incomplete server mod.
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#1408 [10:12] <robolegoman4295> Hey, moll, I'm going to try and reinstall java
#1409 [10:12] <robolegoman4295> would that fix maybe..?
#1410 [10:12] <mollstam> no
#1411 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> robolegoman4295 - No, just be patient? mollstam will fix it for you in due time.
#1412 [10:14] <mollstam> robolegoman4295: pm
#1413 [10:16] <mollstam> well I can see the problem now
#1414 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#1415 [10:17] <mollstam> servers aren't sending any parameters, at all
#1416 [10:17] <mollstam> but why ;v
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#1418 [10:26] <IpS|SexyBeaF> hey i have a prob with uploading a skin, i just looked for some videos on youtube, how to change it, and it's kinda confusing since the menue on minecraft.net looks a bit different than the others
#1419 [10:26] <IpS|SexyBeaF> and if i go to profile i have no preview of my current skin
#1420 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> Skin preview has been disabled
#1421 [10:26] <IpS|SexyBeaF> upload doesn't work even
#1422 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> What problems are you having trying to upload?
#1423 [10:27] <IpS|SexyBeaF> i upload , he says nothing, goes imo just to fast, then nothing
#1424 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, works for me.
#1425 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Right, that means it worked
#1426 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Look in-game now
#1427 [10:27] <IpS|SexyBeaF> w8
#1428 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> hold down, um, f5 for third person view
#1429 [10:28] <IpS|SexyBeaF> uh
#1430 [10:28] <IpS|SexyBeaF> it works
#1431 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1432 [10:28] <IpS|SexyBeaF> thanks, im just to silly :D
#1433 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> No worries.
#1434 [10:28] <SkiingPenguins> did the skins get deleted? my custom skin isnt being downloaded anymore
#1435 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so SkiingPenguins
#1436 [10:29] <IpS|SexyBeaF> its just confusing if you get no message if it worked
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#1438 [10:29] <bellbell> hiya
#1439 [10:29] <bellbell> anyone on?
#1440 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> IpS|SexyBeaF - I know, mollstam's still working on it
#1441 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> Nope, nobody's on
#1442 [10:29] <IpS|SexyBeaF> well bye then ;)
#1443 [10:29] <bellbell> chat ghosts? :p
#1444 [10:30] <bellbell> anyone whos good with crops wana give me pointers?
#1445 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> How can I help you bellbell?
#1446 [10:30] <robolegoman4295> highlight my words to see :D
#1447 [10:30] <bellbell> trying to make an autoharvester for sugar cane
#1448 [10:30] <bellbell> im using the cactus set up(im a noob so not sure if thatll work)
#1449 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> I'm not aware of that setup
#1450 [10:31] <bellbell> well thats why i came to ask :P is there a way to make it automatticly cut itself?
#1451 [10:31] <bellbell> or i just have to grow it out and collect it?
#1452 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> The only way I'm familiar with is the water method.
#1453 [10:32] <bellbell> well i got the water bit set up
#1454 [10:32] <bellbell> but its not making
#1455 [10:32] <bellbell> you put the block over it right?
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#1457 [10:34] <bellbell> gime a sec and ill have a screeny up and you can check my setup
#1458 [10:35] <robolegoman4295> so
#1459 [10:35] <robolegoman4295> Grey - where did moll go...
#1460 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> He's working on it
#1461 [10:36] <robolegoman4295> Hey - it's working!
#1462 [10:36] <robolegoman4295> :D
#1463 [10:36] <mollstam> i do not go
#1464 [10:37] <robolegoman4295> Moll - it's working
#1465 [10:37] <robolegoman4295> But the minecraft site won't load
#1466 [10:37] <robolegoman4295> oh wait
#1467 [10:37] <robolegoman4295> now it's failed
#1468 [10:37] <robolegoman4295> D:
#1469 [10:37] <bellbell> http://i56.tinypic.com/2ymgfuc.jpg
#1470 [10:37] <mollstam> it shouldn' work :v
#1471 [10:37] <mollstam> or I didn't change anything drastically
#1472 [10:38] <robolegoman4295> aww
#1473 [10:38] <robolegoman4295> But it worked for about 30-40 seconds
#1474 [10:38] <robolegoman4295> And then it failed
#1475 [10:38] <robolegoman4295> >_<
#1476 [10:38] <bellbell> does that look like i did anything wrong greyvulpine?
#1477 [10:39] <robolegoman4295> I tried running again
#1478 [10:39] <robolegoman4295> It's running right now.
#1479 [10:39] <mollstam> so does anyone know how to get a server to send heartbeats in the first place : D
#1480 [10:40] <robolegoman4295> After the level saves again, it fails.
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#1482 [10:40] <robolegoman4295> Hey moll
#1483 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> bellbell - This is the method I"m familiar with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQrqJQrwazw
#1484 [10:40] <robolegoman4295> I'm going to go play some PS3
#1485 [10:41] <robolegoman4295> I'll be back on chat later today
#1486 [10:41] <robolegoman4295> see ya guys
#1487 [10:42] <bellbell> thats awsome
#1488 [10:42] <bellbell> not so good for wheat since no seeds
#1489 [10:42] <bellbell> but perfect for sugar, thanks ^.^
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#1491 [10:48] <d3v10us> hello
#1492 [10:49] <xales> hello
#1493 [10:50] <d3v10us> hey i have a quick question. I just swtiched from ubunto headless to a win 2003 server. (Dont Ask) My issue is as follows: I can host both Breach and a killing floor dedicated with no issue. But when i start the minecraft server it starts but as soon as i connect via mc client the network adapter freezes on the server
#1494 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> What NIC is it?
#1495 [10:50] <d3v10us> i am then forced to reboot
#1496 [10:50] <xales> Is it an Atheros NIC?
#1497 [10:51] <d3v10us> realtek rtl8169
#1498 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> The SMP server d/cing a computer from the network isn't entirely an atheros thing...
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#1500 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> And there's at least two reports of it on getsatisfaction..
#1501 [10:51] <d3v10us> i cant even restart the adapter it freezes
#1502 [10:51] <xales> GreyVulpine: Oh, right, the Atheros cards have the other issue
#1503 [10:51] <d3v10us> but only for mc
#1504 [10:51] <d3v10us> weird
#1505 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internet_crashes_after_about_5_minutes_connected_to_a_smp_server
#1506 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/smp_server_destabilizes_internet_connection
#1507 [10:52] <d3v10us> and it will not happen untill that first connect is made. i see on the console that i connected but
#1508 [10:53] <d3v10us> am never able to join,
#1509 [10:54] <xales> hmm
#1510 [10:54] <xales> Are there any firewalls or antivirus/'security' programs running on the server?
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#1512 [10:54] <d3v10us> no
#1513 [10:55] <Rait> Is GreyVulpine here?
#1514 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1515 [10:55] <d3v10us> i am pretty sure its not setup as ive hosted both kf and breach at the same time last night and both filled to max
#1516 [10:55] <Rait> Hey, can you gimme a pm/chat thing, want to ask you something
#1517 [10:56] <Rait> Unless you're busy helping someone already.
#1518 [10:56] <xales> d3v10us: When the adapter goes down, does it just stop showing up as an active device?
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#1520 [10:59] <Lampshade> Guys?
#1521 [10:59] <xales> ?
#1522 [10:59] <d3v10us> no error
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#1524 [10:59] <Lampshade> What's taking so long to Restart the Heartbeat?
#1525 [10:59] <d3v10us> the console sits idle like it normaly is.. i see my connection attempt then my disconnection then connection dies
#1526 [11:00] <Lampshade> No new servers are online yet.
#1527 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> Lampshade - mollstam is working on it
#1528 [11:00] <Lampshade> Just the same ones as last night.
#1529 [11:00] <Lampshade> Ok, Thanks
#1530 [11:00] <d3v10us> i switched back to using dhcp and when i click repair it fails at obtaining ip
#1531 [11:00] <Lampshade> What's the problem? And who is Mollstam?
#1532 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tobias
#1533 [11:01] <Lampshade> Minecraft.net is down now. -_-
#1534 [11:01] <feenyx> d3v10us: if you use dhcp, the portforward would be wrongfully configured once you obtain an IP other than what is set up
#1535 [11:01] <Lampshade> Is there an ETA?
#1536 [11:01] <d3v10us> i am aware of the issue arround dhcp but i did it for troubleshooting and my ip is still the same as when static
#1537 [11:02] <xales> d3v10us: Try pinging a website, to see what error that gives
#1538 [11:02] <Lampshade> Because, I think Mollstoms is fixing it since Minecraft.net is down
#1539 [11:02] <d3v10us> cannot find host
#1540 [11:02] <Lampshade> Or, I might be lying to myself again.
#1541 [11:03] <Lampshade> Request Timed out
#1542 [11:03] <Lampshade> When I pinged Minecraft.net
#1543 [11:04] <Lampshade> Bahh! The server list is down again
#1544 [11:04] <Lampshade> But minecraft.net is back up!
#1545 [11:04] <Lampshade> The irony!
#1546 [11:05] <d3v10us> ok also a little history, i literaly just installed win 2003 serv over ubunto and was using the exact same hardware. so ive hosted this mc server with that card for months
#1547 [11:05] <d3v10us> the drivers are to blame 100%
#1548 [11:06] <d3v10us> however ive tried many diffrent ones to no avail
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#1550 [11:07] <Lampshade> !ping
#1551 [11:07] <crickets> Lampshade Your Ping time was 0.681 Seconds.
#1552 [11:07] <Lampshade> Is that a good Ping?
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#1554 [11:08] <Lampshade> So, What's the ETA for the fix?
#1555 [11:08] <Lampshade> None yet?
#1556 [11:09] <xales> There is still no ETC
#1557 [11:09] <xales> ETA*
#1558 [11:09] <Lampshade> How about now?
#1559 [11:09] <mollstam> quite unsure why mc.net shouldn't respond to you
#1560 [11:10] <Lampshade> Wait
#1561 [11:10] <Lampshade> Your Mollstam?
#1562 [11:10] <mollstam> derp
#1563 [11:10] <Lampshade> Or someone who feels like getting my hopes up?
#1564 [11:10] <mollstam> Can't I be both?
#1565 [11:11] <Lampshade> For a fee
#1566 [11:11] <mollstam> name it
#1567 [11:11] <Lampshade> 1.99$ For a limited time
#1568 [11:11] <mollstam> sold!
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#1570 [11:11] <Lampshade> So, what is up with minecraft.net?
#1571 [11:12] <mollstam> well server list is a wee bit borked
#1572 [11:12] <mollstam> but the site should respond
#1573 [11:12] <Lampshade> I can tell, The site is up, Server list is not
#1574 [11:12] <Lampshade> It's the Heartbeat right?
#1575 [11:13] <mollstam> well technically the server list is working, just not the server heartbeat that puts servers on that list
#1576 [11:13] <mollstam> y
#1577 [11:13] <mollstam> but as have been said before: it works on my computer
#1578 [11:13] <Lampshade> Yes, and thta's why only like 20 servers showed up?
#1579 [11:13] <mollstam> just got to find out where it stops working
#1580 [11:13] <mollstam> mmhm, which is weird to begin with
#1581 [11:13] <mollstam> I don't like when it works " a bit"
#1582 [11:14] <Lampshade> Yeah, you'd think they'd either all be there or not
#1583 [11:14] <Lampshade> Or when the cache clears, Which never happened
#1584 [11:15] <Lampshade> Minecraft.net Down again? Is that you?
#1585 [11:15] <d3v10us> fuck it im going to server 2008 and will take the increased resource loss.... thx for trying guys
#1586 [11:15] <Lampshade> Alright
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#1588 [11:16] <Lampshade> Back up
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#1590 [11:17] <mollstam> Lampshade: I rebooted one of the instances, with an update
#1591 [11:18] <Lampshade> Ok? I'm not that big into Website development
#1592 [11:18] <Lampshade> So an instance?
#1593 [11:19] <Lampshade> Ahh, The thing it points to?
#1594 [11:19] <Lampshade> I just googled the word instance so my definition of it may be off.
#1595 [11:19] <Lampshade> Derp, Down again.
#1596 [11:19] <mollstam> shouldnt be :o
#1597 [11:20] <mollstam> lemme check
#1598 [11:20] <Lampshade> Ok, it is
#1599 [11:20] <Lampshade> Want a screenshot?
#1600 [11:20] <mollstam> i take your word
#1601 [11:20] <Lampshade> http://awesomescreenshot.com/07f6p0b02
#1602 [11:20] <Lampshade> Oj
#1603 [11:20] <Lampshade> Oh*
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#1605 [11:21] <Lampshade> Nevermind, Up again
#1606 [11:21] <Lampshade> Can't say the same for the server list
#1607 [11:21] <Lampshade> Actually, why was the Heartbeat changed?
#1608 [11:22] <Lampshade> Or why is this going on? Is this because of the Migration.
#1609 [11:22] <Zw> Do permissions work with the new bukkit mod?
#1610 [11:22] <mollstam> kind of
#1611 [11:22] <mollstam> Lampshade: ^
#1612 [11:22] <Lampshade> Yes?
#1613 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> Zw - bukkit stuff belongs in #bukkit
#1614 [11:23] <Lampshade> Weird.
#1615 [11:23] <Lampshade> Site's Loading just insanely slow
#1616 [11:23] <mollstam> Lampshade: changes have to be made to accomodate running the application on a clustered envirnment rather than on a single machine
#1617 [11:23] <Lampshade> Ahh, Ok
#1618 [11:23] <izzd> can i find a history of servers i have joined?
#1619 [11:23] <Lampshade> Is this for the better? Running it on a clustered enviroment?
#1620 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> Not with beta izzd
#1621 [11:24] <Lampshade> Animals.jpg?
#1622 [11:24] <izzd> :/
#1623 [11:24] <Lampshade> Is it normal for My computer to not be able to run beta singleplayer
#1624 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, no?
#1625 [11:25] <SkiingPenguins> no
#1626 [11:25] <Lampshade> But run it perfectly on Multiplayer
#1627 [11:25] <Lampshade> You'd think it'd be the other way around
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#1629 [11:30] <killerz> So for some reason minecraft every 2 mins or so will drop the
#1630 [11:30] <Lampshade> The what?
#1631 [11:30] <Lampshade> It is being worked on, Give it time
#1632 [11:31] <killerz> FPS to 0 and my cpu will spike for about 1 minute. The cycle will continue over and over making the game unplayable.
#1633 [11:31] <xales> killerz: What are the specs of your computer
#1634 [11:31] <Lampshade> Might be your computer
#1635 [11:31] <killerz> 1 min
#1636 [11:31] <killerz> better than some I have seen posted from people who run it fine
#1637 [11:32] <killerz> running on a laptop c2d 2.67ghz geforce 9600m gs
#1638 [11:32] <killerz> 8gb ram and the game runs fine when it works but then the spikes happen and I can't play
#1639 [11:32] <Lampshade> Woah
#1640 [11:33] <xales> 8gb on a laptop?
#1641 [11:33] <killerz> yep
#1642 [11:33] <Lampshade> Makes my 512 Mb of ram
#1643 [11:33] <xales> thats a bit..more than usual
#1644 [11:33] <xales> anyway
#1645 [11:33] <Lampshade> Seem pittifull.
#1646 [11:33] <xales> that sounds like a harddisk issue
#1647 [11:33] <Lampshade> Is your Drives filled?
#1648 [11:33] <killerz> not even close to full
#1649 [11:34] <xales> Not full, but read/write speed
#1650 [11:34] <killerz> if it was a hard disk issue why does the cpu spike?
#1651 [11:34] <Lampshade> Or perhaps, Too many background programs
#1652 [11:34] <killerz> no cpu is being used besides the game
#1653 [11:34] <xales> killerz: Because it is blocking on a write
#1654 [11:34] <killerz> let me test my disk speed
#1655 [11:34] <killerz> 1 min
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#1657 [11:38] <Lampshade> Omg
#1658 [11:38] <Lampshade> Server's are back up!
#1659 [11:40] <Lampshade> Mollstam?
#1660 [11:40] <mollstam> Aren't they? :o
#1661 [11:41] <Lampshade> They are
#1662 [11:41] <Lampshade> Thank's so much
#1663 [11:42] <Lampshade> What did you do?
#1664 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> mollstam waved his magic wand.
#1665 [11:42] <Lampshade> Is there a chance they might go back down?
#1666 [11:43] <mollstam> Always
#1667 [11:43] <Lampshade> Well, do you think they will anytime soon?
#1668 [11:43] <Lampshade> Like, is it unstable right now?
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#1670 [11:46] <killerz> ok so it look slike my HD xfers at 70MB/s
#1671 [11:46] <killerz> is that good or bad?
#1672 [11:47] <xales> thats pretty good
#1673 [11:47] <xales> but is that an average speed?
#1674 [11:47] <killerz> yes avg speed
#1675 [11:47] <xales> look at a graph, see if it makes large dips
#1676 [11:47] <xales> in the speed
#1677 [11:47] <killerz> but while the test was going it didn't dip low at any point
#1678 [11:48] <xales> hmm
#1679 [11:48] <xales> do you have any mods installed?
#1680 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> killerz - How much swap are you using/do you have set aside?
#1681 [11:48] <killerz> it problem happend with vanilla no mods
#1682 [11:49] <killerz> swap set for windows?
#1683 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> Yes, "virtual memory" for windows
#1684 [11:50] <killerz> system managed
#1685 [11:50] <killerz> currently set at 8 gigs
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#1688 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> killerz - Have you tried completely reinstalling java, looking at drivers?
#1689 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> damnit
#1690 [11:57] <xales> Codename_Zero needs to quit more >.>
#1691 [11:57] <xales> I've seen every quit message that exists from him just recently
#1692 [11:57] <xales> :(
#1693 [12:00] <Kealper> rawr
#1694 [12:01] * Kealper sips Dr. Pepper
#1694 [12:02] * GreyVulpine steals
#1694 [12:02] <xales> hi Kealpy
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#1700 [12:13] <Phenex> Hey all!
#1701 [12:13] <Phenex> I've got a quick question
#1702 [12:13] <Phenex> How do I use the /give command when I want to give myself a hex value?
#1703 [12:14] <Phenex> I'm specifically talking about the colored wool.
#1704 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Can't
#1705 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Not without using a server mod
#1706 [12:15] <Phenex> So how can I give myself the wool?
#1707 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> You can give yourself, 35 is it?
#1708 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> for regular woll
#1709 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> wool*
#1710 [12:16] <Phenex> Yep
#1711 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, 35.
#1712 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> But there's no way, in vanilla, to give yourself a subset of that wool, in different colors
#1713 [12:17] <Phenex> that sucks
#1714 [12:17] <Phenex> i really need those colors for doing pixel art :P
#1715 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> You can mod the server, or wait for Notch to add that functionality later
#1716 [12:18] <Phenex> What would I mod it with?
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#1718 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit, with the general plugin
#1719 [12:19] <Phenex> You wouldn't happen to have a link to bukkit along with an install tutorial, would you?
#1720 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/faq-2-how-do-i-run-a-craftbukkit-server.462/
#1721 [12:20] <Phenex> Thanks!
#1722 [12:20] <miaou> I have a question
#1723 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Shoot
#1724 [12:21] <miaou> has all the server faffery lately caused any issues with passwords, or is an unsolicited password reset email someone trying to steal me?
#1725 [12:22] <xales> No, they wouldn't send fake recovery emails
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#1727 [12:22] <miaou> do people try usernames at random trying to get into accounts?
#1728 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> That does, and has happened.
#1729 [12:23] <TheReddeH> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG9SPywEGm4
#1730 [12:23] <TheReddeH> omgggg
#1731 [12:23] <miaou> good thing I changed my passes
#1732 [12:23] <miaou> thanks all
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#1738 [12:43] <Phenex> so is bukkit a mod that just standardizes other mods?
#1739 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> bukkit is a modding api, with support for expansion through plugins
#1740 [12:44] <Phenex> so what plugin would i need in order to give hex items?
#1741 [12:45] <xales> ask in #bukkit
#1742 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> I believe "General" is the one you want, but ask in #bukkit
#1743 [12:45] <Zw> GreyVulpine, i have tried everything, but got this error all the time: http://pastebin.com/JH3PMGi4
#1744 [12:46] <Zw> corrupting map etc
#1745 [12:46] <Zw> 18 times has it crashed since yesterday
#1746 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Zw - Ask in bukkit, it's a bukkit issue
#1747 [12:46] <xales> O_o
#1748 [12:46] <xales> when is EAX ever 0
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#1753 [13:11] * fogwraith_ just finished the demo of Amnesia
#1753 [13:11] <fogwraith_> Impressive stuff, considering a purchase
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#1759 [13:23] <Cawkii> hello?/
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#1761 [13:23] <xales> hello
#1762 [13:24] <Cawkii> urm can someone help me? I need a refund on minecraft, and the @payment is NOT replying
#1763 [13:24] <xales> A: why do you need a refund, and B: how long ago did you email them
#1764 [13:25] <Cawkii> A: I didn't like the product, simples B: I've been trying to contact them for two weeks
#1765 [13:25] <Cawkii> I tried @payment and someone suggested @daniel, he replied to me asking what was wrong, and he has not replied
#1766 [13:25] <xales> Email Daniel again
#1767 [13:25] <Cawkii> right now?
#1768 [13:26] <xales> when else?
#1769 [13:27] <Cawkii> done...
#1770 [13:27] <xales> wait for him to reply, then
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#1772 [13:33] <mib_alntkr> Hey all, I keep getting a "Timed out" error message.
#1773 [13:33] <xales> When do you get it
#1774 [13:34] <mib_alntkr> When attempting to connect to a server.
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#1776 [13:34] <mib_alntkr> The server was working until early this morning.
#1777 [13:34] <kingdanone> Hello
#1778 [13:34] <kingdanone> Can you help me
#1779 [13:34] <xales> kingdanone: With?
#1780 [13:34] <xales> mib_alntkr: The server is likely down, then
#1781 [13:34] <kingdanone> can we chat in a room
#1782 [13:34] <mib_alntkr> Oh. :(
#1783 [13:34] <xales> kingdanone: You mean this one?
#1784 [13:35] <kingdanone> Can i change my Email because i have forgotten my password of my email and i have my id and my password but not my email
#1785 [13:35] <xales> Did you look on the website?
#1786 [13:35] <kingdanone> I can change there only my password.
#1787 [13:36] <xales> kingdanone: are you sure?
#1788 [13:36] <kingdanone> Can you change my email for me?
#1789 [13:36] <kingdanone> Please
#1790 [13:36] <xales> No, I can't
#1791 [13:36] <xales> Why do you think I could do that
#1792 [13:37] <kingdanone> You are an Admin.
#1793 [13:37] <mib_alntkr> lmao
#1794 [13:37] <Cawkii> L0L
#1795 [13:37] <kingdanone> How can i change my email :/
#1796 [13:37] <xales> I am a channel operator
#1797 [13:37] <xales> I am not affiliated with Mojang in any way
#1798 [13:37] <kingdanone> Hm.
#1799 [13:38] <kingdanone> Thats bad.
#1800 [13:38] <kingdanone> How can i concact mojang
#1801 [13:38] <kingdanone> contact'
#1802 [13:38] <Cawkii> this should be the place...
#1803 [13:38] <xales> Did you look on the contact page?
#1804 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Right now, email addresses can't be changed.
#1805 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> That function has been disabled
#1806 [13:39] <kingdanone> Why
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#1808 [13:39] <kingdanone> Thats too bad.
#1809 [13:39] <INTROSP3CTIVE> i need help! can someone on ubuntu/linux PM me?
#1810 [13:39] <kingdanone> INTRO?
#1811 [13:39] <INTROSP3CTIVE> yeah?
#1812 [13:39] <xales> INTROSP3CTIVE: No, you can ask for help in the channel
#1813 [13:39] <xales> Unless it is something that requires privacy, please ask in the channel
#1814 [13:40] <INTROSP3CTIVE> k that's fine
#1815 [13:40] <kingdanone> xales i havent twitter or facebook
#1816 [13:40] <xales> kingdanone: EMAIL them
#1817 [13:40] <INTROSP3CTIVE> i just started using ubuntu a few days ago so i'm not an expert yet
#1818 [13:40] <kingdanone> Can you give me the email
#1819 [13:40] <INTROSP3CTIVE> how the heck to i play minecraft?
#1820 [13:40] <INTROSP3CTIVE> i know you are supposed to open it with java or something along those lines
#1821 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> INTROSP3CTIVE - Did you get the minecraft.jar file off the website
#1822 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> The instructions on how to launch it are on the page
#1823 [13:41] <INTROSP3CTIVE> yeah im looking at it
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#1825 [13:41] <xales> kingdanone: payment@mojang.com
#1826 [13:41] <INTROSP3CTIVE> well grey it's working about as well as the server you tried to connect to worked
#1827 [13:41] <kingdanone> But they not answer
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#1829 [13:42] <INTROSP3CTIVE> i guess i just need someone to walk me through the process because it is not working for me
#1830 [13:42] <Arinomi> I'm having an issue with a server. I start the server, I create a world, I log in. All fine, then I log off to go afk. Then I can't log back in.
#1831 [13:43] <xales> Arinomi: 'can't log back in'?
#1832 [13:43] <xales> INTROSP3CTIVE: What part doesn't work
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#1834 [13:43] <Arinomi> xales: Yes. I can't log back into my server.
#1835 [13:43] <INTROSP3CTIVE> the part where i go to open a .jar file and it doesn't open
#1836 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> INTROSP3CTIVE - How are you launching the .jar file?
#1837 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> In your terminal?
#1838 [13:44] <INTROSP3CTIVE> no. dont know how yet
#1839 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> What *nix distro are you running?
#1840 [13:44] <Arinomi> I get various errors. Bad login, taking too long etc
#1841 [13:44] <INTROSP3CTIVE> ubuntu 10.10
#1842 [13:44] <xales> Arinomi: What is your username?
#1843 [13:44] <Arinomi> Arinomi
#1844 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> INTROSP3CTIVE - Where did you download the minecraft.jar file to?
#1845 [13:45] <xales> Arinomi: It sounds like an issue with Minecraft.net
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#1847 [13:45] <INTROSP3CTIVE> it's in my tmp folder.
#1848 [13:45] <xales> try restarting the client and server, see if it works
#1849 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> where is your tmp folder?
#1850 [13:45] <mib_tzijlo> some1 time?
#1851 [13:45] <INTROSP3CTIVE> imma move it to desktop to make it easier
#1852 [13:45] <mib_tzijlo> some1 kann support me?
#1853 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_tzijlo - With what?
#1854 [13:45] <mib_tzijlo> fix minecraft =)
#1855 [13:45] <Arinomi> xales: I've been having issues with minecraft.net but I can access the site, ping the url and all that.
#1856 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us any more info?
#1857 [13:46] <INTROSP3CTIVE> nvm figured it out greyvulpine
#1858 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Heh, okay then
#1859 [13:46] <mib_tzijlo> last time, a friend of mine fixed minecraft, because it pings a wrong ip.
#1860 [13:46] <INTROSP3CTIVE> had to set it to run as an executable and open with JRE6
#1861 [13:46] <INTROSP3CTIVE> boooyah
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#1863 [13:46] <Lampshade> Bahh
#1864 [13:46] <mib_tzijlo> now it ping again wrong ip
#1865 [13:46] <INTROSP3CTIVE> all i need is to get to that point where im really pissed and asked for help from other people
#1866 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_tzijlo - What IP does minecraft.net ping to?
#1867 [13:46] <INTROSP3CTIVE> then i figure it out on my own
#1868 [13:46] <Lampshade> What's happening now?
#1869 [13:46] <mib_tzijlo> jo
#1870 [13:46] <mib_tzijlo> he changed some internetoptions
#1871 [13:46] <mib_tzijlo> where the ip were wrong
#1872 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_tzijlo - Can you connect to minecraft.net?
#1873 [13:47] <mib_tzijlo> no
#1874 [13:47] <mib_tzijlo> thats the error
#1875 [13:47] <Lampshade> I can't
#1876 [13:47] <Roenie> anyone recommend a plugin that will reduce the time spent gathering resources, without making it *all* available unlimited?
#1877 [13:47] <Cawkii> Dan hasn't replied ;(
#1878 [13:47] <mib_tzijlo> "Cant connect to minecraft.net"
#1879 [13:47] <xales> mib_tzijlo: Download and run this. http://public:0000@darksigns.net/xales/mchelper.exe
#1880 [13:47] <xales> It will tell you the IP of minecraft.net
#1881 [13:47] <mib_tzijlo> ok
#1882 [13:48] <Lampshade> Hey xales-What happened to the server list?
#1883 [13:48] <mib_tzijlo> all OK
#1884 [13:48] <xales> Lampshade: No idea
#1885 [13:49] <xales> mib_tzijlo: No, what does it say for the minecraft.net IP
#1886 [13:49] <xales> at the very end
#1887 [13:49] <Lampshade> xales- Man, I was so excited thinking it was working
#1888 [13:49] <mib_tzijlo> 109.169.40.163
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#1890 [13:49] <xales> mib_tzijlo: What is your username?
#1891 [13:50] <fuogo> are the classiic minecraft servers down again?
#1892 [13:50] <xales> to log into Minecraft
#1893 [13:50] <Lampshade> Yes
#1894 [13:50] <mib_tzijlo> Stendaard
#1895 [13:50] <Lampshade> Fuogo-Yes
#1896 [13:50] <fuogo> FML
#1897 [13:50] <fuogo> lol
#1898 [13:50] <Lampshade> I know
#1899 [13:50] <Lampshade> Only online for an hour
#1900 [13:50] <fuogo> i was building something and took a break and this is what happens...
#1901 [13:50] <Lampshade> Then back off
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#1903 [13:50] <Lampshade> I know, I took a break too
#1904 [13:51] <Lampshade> As soon as I logged back in it shut off
#1905 [13:51] <fuogo> yea
#1906 [13:51] <xales> mib_tzijlo: The IP is wrong
#1907 [13:51] <mib_tzijlo> i changed some internet options last tiem
#1908 [13:51] <SkiingPenguins> xales your tool says 184.73.231.237 for minecraft.net
#1909 [13:51] <mib_tzijlo> i dont know anymore how
#1910 [13:51] <mib_tzijlo> how to change?
#1911 [13:51] <xales> SkiingPenguins: It checks what you are caching it as
#1912 [13:51] <SkiingPenguins> ah
#1913 [13:51] <xales> mib_tzijlo: Are you playing a pirated copy of the game
#1914 [13:51] <fuogo> well guess it's to go play beta
#1915 [13:52] <mib_tzijlo> no
#1916 [13:52] <mib_tzijlo> !paid stendaard
#1917 [13:52] <Cawkii> Dan Kaplan anyone?
#1918 [13:52] <xales> mib_tzijlo: You did pay for it, but the IP of minecraft.net for you wouldn't be that unless you played a pirated version
#1919 [13:52] <mib_tzijlo> wtf
#1920 [13:53] <mib_tzijlo> !paid Stendaard
#1921 [13:53] <xales> mib_tzijlo: It doesn't matter if you have paid for it now
#1922 [13:53] <xales> the problem is, you used a pirated version in the past
#1923 [13:53] <mib_tzijlo> last time i changed some ordner
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#1925 [13:53] <mib_tzijlo> and then i had the right ip
#1926 [13:53] <Twiizer> Hey\
#1927 [13:53] <fuogo> hey twiizer
#1928 [13:53] <fuogo> 's mclovinit;
#1929 [13:53] <xales> mib_tzijlo: To make it work with your pirated copy, most likely
#1930 [13:54] <fuogo> mclovin*
#1931 [13:54] <Arinomi> Strange. When I ping minecraft.net, it tells me the IP is 50.16.203.217. But when I use Xales's tool, it says 184.72.219.248
#1932 [13:54] <xales> Arinomi: They may resolve differently
#1933 [13:54] <SkiingPenguins> me too Arinomi
#1934 [13:54] <xales> Mine uses gethostaddr()
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#1936 [13:55] <Twiizer> Mclovin?
#1937 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_tzijlo - Still there?
#1938 [13:56] <SkiingPenguins> i used a pirated copy before i bought minecraft, yet i dont have these issues
#1939 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> mib_tzijlo - ?
#1940 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> SkiingPenguins - You're lucky thing, most of the issues that I've come across personally that involved pirating, had a modified HOSTS file
#1941 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> thing = then
#1942 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/eS9Gpdt6
#1943 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Here's an example
#1944 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Notice the IP
#1945 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> <mib_tzijlo> 109.169.40.163
#1946 [13:57] <Cawkii> that's how you get Photoshop for free ;)
#1947 [13:57] <mib_tzijlo> chat clear
#1948 [13:57] <mib_tzijlo> wtf
#1949 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_tzijlo - You're back
#1950 [13:57] <mib_tzijlo> sry
#1951 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Would you like to know how to fix it?
#1952 [13:57] <mib_tzijlo> i fix it for friend
#1953 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Your.. friend.
#1954 [13:58] <mib_tzijlo> i know there is some data were is to change
#1955 [13:58] <mib_tzijlo> but i dont know where.
#1956 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> Did your friend happen to pay for minecraft?
#1957 [13:58] <mib_tzijlo> yes, he buyed yesterday
#1958 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> I see.
#1959 [13:58] <Cawkii> friend = actually me, but I don't want him to know this.
#1960 [13:58] <mib_tzijlo> !paid Manelchen
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#1962 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> Well, alright. I take it he's using windows?
#1963 [13:58] <mib_tzijlo> yes
#1964 [13:59] <Twiizer> !paid Twiizer
#1965 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Go to his C: drive, windows folder, then system32/drivers/etc
#1966 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> In there, you'll see a HOSTS file
#1967 [13:59] <Twiizer> Woo HOO!
#1968 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Could you open it up in notepad, copy it, and paste it at www.pastebin.com ?
#1969 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Give me the link when you've done that
#1970 [14:00] <mib_tzijlo> done
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#1972 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> ... and the link?
#1973 [14:00] <Kealper> why is aubot so slow right now....
#1974 [14:01] <Kealper> because the site is slow -.-
#1975 [14:01] <mib_tzijlo> ok i know
#1976 [14:01] <mib_tzijlo> hosts.old
#1977 [14:01] <mib_tzijlo> and then start
#1978 [14:01] <Kealper> ?
#1979 [14:01] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#1980 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I gotta run.
#1981 [14:02] <Kealper> that's unfortunate because i'm off to the store in a few
#1982 [14:02] <Kealper> alright then.... mib_tzijlo quick rundown of your issue? hopefully we can iron this out before i gotta go too
#1983 [14:06] <Kealper> or not.....afk now
#1984 [14:06] <mib_tzijlo> works
#1985 [14:07] <mib_tzijlo> ty
#1986 [14:07] <Pirate-Jake> is mc down?
#1987 [14:07] <Pirate-Jake> nevermind
#1988 [14:07] <Pirate-Jake> :3
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#1991 [14:19] <TheEnchanter> hello, I want to play this game with a friend but he won't buy it unless he tries it before. How can we play together 100% free? thanks
#1992 [14:19] <xales> You can't
#1993 [14:19] <xales> The game isn't free
#1994 [14:20] <TheEnchanter> I played for free some months ago
#1995 [14:20] <KillSpammer> That was the 1 and only free weekend.
#1996 [14:20] <TheEnchanter> awww I guess we will have to find other game
#1997 [14:20] <KillSpammer> Mmk TheEnchanter I don't think notch cares much
#1998 [14:20] <KillSpammer> He already has 1 million buyers :)
#1999 [14:22] <KillSpammer> TheEnchanter, you can always pirate it but you know... its illegal :)
#2000 [14:22] <SkiingPenguins> and if you do end up buying it after that, it might not work
#2001 [14:22] <KillSpammer> As the penguin police will track you down and Ski into your house.
#2002 [14:23] <SkiingPenguins> nah, you'll just get owned remotely by Notch
#2003 [14:24] <KillSpammer> Via him launcing skiingrocketpenguins squad 3
#2004 [14:24] <TheEnchanter> KillSpammer i don't know who is notch and even if i did, i wouldn't care about what he cares
#2005 [14:24] <SkiingPenguins> lol he made minecraft
#2006 [14:25] <SkiingPenguins> im saving that for my irc funlog
#2007 [14:25] <mbentley> you could let your friend play on your computer to see what it is like
#2008 [14:25] <mbentley> or get a new friend
#2009 [14:26] <KillSpammer> Well TheEnchanter basically minecraft is one of those games where you have a 3/10 chance of talking to him in your life, he is a multimillionaire and doesn't care if you want to have a free trial or something, lend your account to your friend and let him try it. Notch already has enough money it won't affect him if he loses one sale.
#2010 [14:26] <KillSpammer> Like...
#2011 [14:26] <TheEnchanter> SkiingPenguins so it's indispensable to know Notch, im saving that for my irc funlog too
#2012 [14:26] <SkiingRocketPenguin> :(
#2013 [14:26] <TheEnchanter> like if he was God or something like that
#2014 [14:26] <TheEnchanter> goood job
#2015 [14:26] <SkiingPenguins> TheEnchanter i dont know notch personally, but i do know that he made minecraft ^.^
#2016 [14:27] <SkiingRocketPenguin> Oh...
#2017 [14:27] <SkiingRocketPenguin> I see
#2018 [14:27] <TheEnchanter> do u know who Von Neuman is?
#2019 [14:27] <SkiingPenguins> is he russian? sounds russian
#2020 [14:27] <TheEnchanter> wrong
#2021 [14:27] <TheEnchanter> hungarian
#2022 [14:27] <SkiingPenguins> im american, i dont have to care
#2023 [14:27] <TheEnchanter> yes you do
#2024 [14:27] <SkiingPenguins> is he on star trek?
#2025 [14:27] <TheEnchanter> thanks to him you're chatting now
#2026 [14:28] <SkiingRocketPenguin> TheEnchanter, the point is minecraft is an indie game and in an indie game everyone usually talks about the creator in the game thus meaning most players would know him.
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#2028 [14:28] <SkiingPenguins> would know of him*
#2029 [14:28] <SkiingRocketPenguin> Yeah yeah...
#2030 [14:28] <SkiingRocketPenguin> Brb
#2031 [14:28] <TheEnchanter> SkiingPenguins it's ok if you feel better with yourselves talking about him, some kind of a built emotional connection
#2032 [14:28] <SkiingRocketPenguin> My Xchat fucked up
#2033 [14:29] <TheEnchanter> but i don't think that's relevant
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#2035 [14:29] <SkiingPenguins> i really dont feel any emotional difference when talking about him
#2036 [14:29] <SkiingPenguins> KillSpammer your xchat didnt like you using my name
#2037 [14:29] <KillSpammer> I know
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#2039 [14:29] <SkiingRocketPenguin> WOOH
#2040 [14:29] <SkiingRocketPenguin> This is linked now
#2041 [14:30] <SkiingRocketPenguin> I have to link everything i switch or i have to restart
#2042 [14:30] <xales> SkiingRocketPenguin: Or just part #minecraft so you can change back
#2043 [14:30] <xales> :P
#2044 [14:30] <TheEnchanter> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_von_Neumann
#2045 [14:30] <Pirate-Jake> So.
#2046 [14:30] <Pirate-Jake> Whats the difference between alpha and beta accoutns?
#2047 [14:30] <mbentley> alpha = free forever
#2048 [14:30] <SkiingRocketPenguin> Alpha - All future updates and everything
#2049 [14:31] <TheEnchanter> mbentley how can I play alpha?
#2050 [14:31] <SkiingRocketPenguin> Beta - All bugfixes and updates up to full releases
#2051 [14:31] <SkiingRocketPenguin> Then bug fixes forever after that on beta
#2052 [14:31] <Pirate-Jake> :\
#2053 [14:31] <SkiingRocketPenguin> TheEnchanter, your can't really.
#2054 [14:31] <mbentley> it's not free... future updates are
#2055 [14:31] * SkiingPenguins does not understand why this idiot is trying to educate him on a hungarian guy
#2055 [14:32] <xales> TheEnchanter: If you bought the game during the Alpha stage, you get all future updates
#2056 [14:32] <xales> if not, you get all updates up to and including the final release
#2057 [14:32] <xales> but no further content is guaranteed
#2058 [14:32] <SkiingPenguins> aw
#2059 [14:32] <xales> with Alpha, it is
#2060 [14:32] * SkiingPenguins wishes he could have gotten his debit card earlier than beta ._.
#2060 [14:33] <xales> SkiingPenguins: You probably won't notice any difference for quite a while
#2061 [14:33] * SkiingRocketPenguin laughs
#2061 [14:33] <SkiingRocketPenguin> Then you will get hit in the face when some epic expantion comes out.
#2062 [14:34] <SkiingPenguins> xales do you know how to delete C:\$Recycle.Bin ?
#2063 [14:34] <xales> You shouldn't do that
#2064 [14:34] <SkiingPenguins> how about what's inside?
#2065 [14:34] <xales> Empty recycle bin
#2066 [14:34] <SkiingPenguins> doesnt work
#2067 [14:34] <SkiingPenguins> it's empty
#2068 [14:34] <SkiingRocketPenguin> HAHAHA
#2069 [14:34] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <TheEnchanter> how can i pirate it
#2070 [14:34] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <SkiingRocketPenguin> Why the fuck would i tell you.
#2071 [14:34] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <SkiingRocketPenguin> Your just trying to troll #Minecrafthelp
#2072 [14:34] <SkiingRocketPenguin>
#2073 [14:34] <SkiingRocketPenguin> * Loaded log from Mon Jan 31 05:26:45 2011
#2074 [14:34] <SkiingRocketPenguin>
#2075 [14:34] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <TheEnchanter> no i'm not
#2076 [14:34] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <TheEnchanter> i just want to play the game with my friend
#2077 [14:34] <TheEnchanter> hahahaha
#2078 [14:34] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <SkiingRocketPenguin> Then buy it for him or gtfo
#2079 [14:35] <TheEnchanter> u mad, kid?
#2080 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <SkiingRocketPenguin> Or get him to buy it, or get a new friend.
#2081 [14:35] <Arinomi> I keep getting 'connection refused: connect' when I try to play on my server.
#2082 [14:35] <SkiingPenguins> u jelly?
#2083 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <SkiingRocketPenguin> Or lend him your account to ry.
#2084 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <TheEnchanter> i don't have money even to buy it for myself
#2085 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <SkiingRocketPenguin> try*
#2086 [14:35] <TheEnchanter> he's obviously mad
#2087 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <TheEnchanter> do you understand
#2088 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <TheEnchanter> 15 euros is too much
#2089 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <SkiingRocketPenguin> I can't get the game for you.
#2090 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <TheEnchanter> didn't u say something about a pirate version?
#2091 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <TheEnchanter> i'm not a spy, you can tell me
#2092 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <TheEnchanter> lol
#2093 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <SkiingRocketPenguin> Yes you can get a pirated version
#2094 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <SkiingRocketPenguin> But i'm not searching or finding one for you.
#2095 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <SkiingRocketPenguin> Now stop talking to me.
#2096 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <TheEnchanter> rofl
#2097 [14:35] <SkiingPenguins> please stop talking now
#2098 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <TheEnchanter> make me
#2099 [14:35] <TheEnchanter> he ran out of arguements and decided to spam the channel
#2100 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <SkiingRocketPenguin> mmk, I'll go contact espers admins and get you banned from the network.
#2101 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <SkiingRocketPenguin> :)
#2102 [14:35] <xales> Arinomi: What IP address are you trying to use?
#2103 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <SkiingRocketPenguin> Well it will proberly be a kick or a temp ban but anyway...
#2104 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <TheEnchanter> rofl, do u think I care? ill be out of irc before that happens
#2105 [14:35] <TheEnchanter> pretty sad
#2106 [14:35] <dopeghoti> Hey, let's play "Don't flood #MineCraftHelp! I'll go first!
#2107 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> * [TheEnchanter] (sonic@112.Red-83-51-90.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net): sonic
#2108 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> * [TheEnchanter] #MineCraftHelp
#2109 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> * [TheEnchanter] aperture.esper.net :There really was a cake.
#2110 [14:35] <SkiingRocketPenguin> * [TheEnchanter] idle 00:00:10, signon: Mon Jan 31 05:18:34
#2111 [14:36] <SkiingRocketPenguin> * [TheEnchanter] End of WHOIS list.
#2112 [14:36] <SkiingRocketPenguin> <TheEnchanter> i'm not a nerd like u that spends his whole life here
#2113 [14:36] <SkiingRocketPenguin> :(
#2114 [14:36] <SkiingRocketPenguin> I know man
#2115 [14:36] <SkiingRocketPenguin> I'm raging right now.
#2116 [14:36] <TheEnchanter> <SkiingRocketPenguin> I don't see why you are trying to troll me :)
#2117 [14:36] <SkiingRocketPenguin> Ok dopeghoti !
#2118 [14:36] <Arinomi> xales: Both the external and internal IPs get the same error.
#2119 [14:36] <TheEnchanter> you flooded this channel with a private log
#2120 [14:36] <TheEnchanter> and i'm the troll?
#2121 [14:36] <TheEnchanter> gtfo.
#2122 [14:36] <xales> Arinomi: DO you have a firewall?
#2123 [14:36] <xales> TheEnchanter: Good idea
#2124 [14:36] <SkiingRocketPenguin> No thank you.
#2125 [14:36] * xales kicked TheEnchanter from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: GTFO)
#2126 [14:36] <Arinomi> No.
#2127 [14:36] <SkiingPenguins> xales can you do something about these idiots
#2128 [14:36] <SkiingPenguins> oh.
#2129 [14:36] <SkiingRocketPenguin> Hey xales that was my first personal troll :)
#2130 [14:37] <xales> lol
#2131 [14:37] <Arinomi> Well. The linux distro does.. I'll have to check that.
#2132 [14:37] <xales> Arinomi: Can you connect using 127.0.0.1?
#2133 [14:37] <Arinomi> No, because it's on a virtual machine.
#2134 [14:37] <xales> Oh...that would be the problem
#2135 [14:37] <SkiingRocketPenguin> Xales.
#2136 [14:37] <xales> there are a whole host of issues with getting it to forward to the VM
#2137 [14:37] <SkiingRocketPenguin> /ignore confuses me
#2138 [14:38] <xales> SkiingRocketPenguin: why?
#2139 [14:38] <xales> Also, if he is bothering you
#2140 [14:38] <xales> go to #dragonweyr
#2141 [14:38] <xales> report him for pirating
#2142 [14:38] <SkiingRocketPenguin> I know.
#2143 [14:38] <xales> etc
#2144 [14:38] <SkiingRocketPenguin> I was gonna go do that
#2145 [14:38] <SkiingRocketPenguin> He is offline now.
#2146 [14:38] <SkiingRocketPenguin> If he comes back :)
#2147 [14:38] <xales> ok
#2148 [14:39] <Arinomi> If I weren't able to play at all, I'd know what to do. But here's the thing: If I create a brand new server, I manage to log in and play. But if I log out from it, I can't log back in.
#2149 [14:39] <xales> Arinomi: What error, specifically?
#2150 [14:40] <Arinomi> Connection refused: connect
#2151 [14:40] <KillSpammer> The server was like *facepalm* in your face.
#2152 [14:41] <xales> Arinomi: I'm guessing its a problem with running in a VM
#2153 [14:41] <xales> why exactly are you doing that? >.>
#2154 [14:41] <Arinomi> Because I wanted to try MineOS :P
#2155 [14:41] <xales> Oh
#2156 [14:42] <xales> You have to set up the VM software
#2157 [14:42] <xales> to port-forward from your computer to the VM >.>
#2158 [14:42] <Arinomi> Well. When I made the VM, I bridged it
#2159 [14:42] <xales> or give the VM it's own IP
#2160 [14:42] <xales> I don't think a bridge will do it
#2161 [14:42] <xales> does it have its own IP?
#2162 [14:42] <xales> or is it subnetting
#2163 [14:42] <Arinomi> On the internal network, yes.
#2164 [14:43] <xales> Is the IP on the same subnet as the host?
#2165 [14:43] <xales> IE, host is 192.168.1.3, VM is 192.168.1.4
#2166 [14:43] <Arinomi> The host is 192.168.1.101, VM is 192.168.1.103.
#2167 [14:44] <xales> can you ping the VM?
#2168 [14:45] <Arinomi> Weird. It times out.
#2169 [14:45] <xales> Try restarting it?
#2170 [14:47] <Arinomi> Restarted... trying again...
#2171 [14:47] <Arinomi> No.
#2172 [14:48] <Arinomi> Still can't connect. Yet I can connect to the webserver :P
#2173 [14:48] <Arinomi> I'm administrating the server with no problems. Just not playing on it.
#2174 [14:48] <xales> Can you ping it?
#2175 [14:49] <Arinomi> I can, but it times out.
#2176 [14:49] <xales> What error does Minecraft give you?
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#2178 [14:50] <Arinomi> connection refused: connect
#2179 [14:50] <Mathuin> Where's the wiki page that shows at what depth stuff like coal and gold show up?
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#2181 [14:50] <Mathuin> And is that absolute depth, or relative depth?
#2182 [14:50] <Dante107> Hello everyone
#2183 [14:50] <xales> Arinomi: Is the server running properly, normal port, no server-ip set, etc
#2184 [14:50] <xales> Dante107: Hello
#2185 [14:50] <Dante107> i have a question
#2186 [14:50] <xales> Shoot
#2187 [14:51] <Dante107> i join a server and it says malformed input around byte 2
#2188 [14:51] <xales> The server needs to be updated
#2189 [14:51] <Dante107> alriiight thaaanx
#2190 [14:52] <Arinomi> I restarted the server software, and now I was able to log in :P No idea why, I just restarted the VM like 10 minutes ago.
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#2192 [14:53] <Mathuin> Ah, it's the "ore" page, but nobody links to it. -P
#2193 [14:53] <Mathuin> BTW, if anyone cares, I think I've solved my interpolation problem.
#2194 [14:53] <Mathuin> The world looks way less blocky.
#2195 [14:54] <Dante107> uhm do you guys have a good page for the serverlist of minecraft im currently looking on mcserverlist.net but the most a them are full our outdated
#2196 [14:54] <Dante107> or*
#2197 [14:55] <xales> Dante107: Try this server
#2198 [14:55] <xales> smp.shadow-craft.net
#2199 [14:56] <Dante107> oh thanks it worked :)
#2200 [14:56] <Mathuin> Dante107: the topic for #smp has a list.
#2201 [14:56] <Dante107> thank you :-)
#2202 [14:56] <mbentley> so those of us on the +v chanserv list have kick ability via chanserv, eh?
#2203 [14:57] <xales> mbentley: Yup
#2204 [14:57] <mbentley> fun stuff
#2205 [14:57] <xales> AuBot was only until we could get ChanServ to do it
#2206 [14:58] <Mathuin> I love the fact that I can now answer some questions.
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#2209 [15:01] <Mathuin> Will AuBot go away now, or will it be used for autoresponses to questions and the like?
#2210 [15:01] <xales> It willl still be here
#2211 [15:01] <xales> I was only talking about the kick thing
#2212 [15:04] <Mathuin> Okay.
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#2214 [15:07] <Dante107> so how are you guys everythings fine?
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#2216 [15:09] <Mathuin> I am excited. I may have something pretty to share.
#2217 [15:09] <Mathuin> And then ice cream!
#2218 [15:09] <Mathuin> No ice cream for you though. :-P
#2219 [15:10] <Dante107> :D
#2220 [15:10] <Dante107> why not :(
#2221 [15:10] <Mathuin> Because I'm running late and will barely have time to pick up my own. :-(
#2222 [15:11] <Dante107> Oh thats sad i hope you can atleast enjoy youres :)
#2223 [15:11] <Mathuin> IT WORKED IT WORKED I AM TEH AWESOMEST
#2224 [15:11] <SkiingPenguins> no i am
#2225 [15:11] <Dante107> you both are
#2226 [15:11] <Dante107> BAM
#2227 [15:11] <Dante107> :D
#2228 [15:11] <SkiingPenguins> no not really, only he is
#2229 [15:11] <Dante107> :(
#2230 [15:12] <SkiingPenguins> but i did make script to make script to compress things
#2231 [15:12] <Dante107> thats pretty cool
#2232 [15:13] <Mathuin> Uploading screenshot.
#2233 [15:13] <Dante107> ay
#2234 [15:13] <Mathuin> http://i.imgur.com/8iWEa.png
#2235 [15:13] <Mathuin> Look upon it. Seeeeeee how awesomely not-blocky it is.
#2236 [15:14] <Dante107> yeah it looks flwless
#2237 [15:14] <Dante107> flawless
#2238 [15:14] <SkiingPenguins> neat now zoom in on a few trees
#2239 [15:14] <Mathuin> It looks even better when you zoom in on the coastline.
#2240 [15:15] <Dante107> looks a bit like italy
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#2242 [15:15] <Mathuin> It's Block Island, RI.
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#2244 [15:16] <Cawkii> helloooo?
#2245 [15:16] <Dante107> hi
#2246 [15:16] <Dante107> :P
#2247 [15:16] <Cawkii> couldn't help me out, could you bud?
#2248 [15:16] <Mathuin> I have a zoomed-in pic showing the script-generated two-story building complete with torches, and a view of the coastline so you can see how naturally irregular it is.
#2249 [15:16] <Mathuin> http://i.imgur.com/YPpSS.png
#2250 [15:17] <Dante107> rooofl^^
#2251 [15:17] <Mathuin> http://i.imgur.com/YPpS5.png -- sorry, typo
#2252 [15:17] <Dante107> :d
#2253 [15:17] <Cawkii> @xales I am still waiting on Dan to reply to me :/
#2254 [15:17] <Dante107> looks funny
#2255 [15:17] <xales> Cawkii: It will take more than an hour or two
#2256 [15:18] <Dante107> like a box somewhere on a lonley island
#2257 [15:18] <xales> it is also 9pm in Sweden
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#2259 [15:18] <Dante107> noway?
#2260 [15:18] <Dante107> :D
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#2262 [15:18] <Cawkii> xales: you sure? It's just I don't want him saying "oh well it's now been a month, so we don't have to refund you"
#2263 [15:18] <esper_mdeqib> can someone do me a favor?
#2264 [15:18] <Cawkii> xales: that's all..
#2265 [15:18] <Dante107> sure
#2266 [15:18] <xales> xaviergmail: lolmibbit
#2267 [15:18] <xaviergmail> yes
#2268 [15:18] <xales> Cawkii: I'm sure
#2269 [15:19] <xaviergmail> xchat ran out
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#2271 [15:19] <xaviergmail> im gonna get cracked mirc soon lol
#2272 [15:19] <xales> xaviergmail: xchat is free
#2273 [15:19] <xales> and mIRC is free too
#2274 [15:19] <xaviergmail> ?
#2275 [15:19] <xales> lol
#2276 [15:19] <xaviergmail> trials
#2277 [15:19] <xaviergmail> thing
#2278 [15:19] <xales> http://silverex.org/news/
#2279 [15:19] <xales> free
#2280 [15:19] <xales> xchat
#2281 [15:19] <xaviergmail> :O
#2282 [15:19] <xales> and mIRC, just ignore the nagging screen
#2283 [15:19] <xaviergmail> XD
#2284 [15:19] <xales> wait a minute on the 'buy now' thing for the continue button to activate
#2285 [15:19] <saftinger> will my beta work remain on the release verion?
#2286 [15:19] <xales> saftinger: Unknown, but it is very likely it will
#2287 [15:19] <xaviergmail> 1 minute ius long
#2288 [15:20] <xales> Release isn't for quite a while
#2289 [15:20] <xales> xaviergmail: Then use xchat
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#2291 [15:20] <xaviergmail> can someone connect to townserver.no-ip.biz, I need to see if this cuboid protection works
#2292 [15:20] <xales> Nope
#2293 [15:20] <SkiingPenguins> nah sorry
#2294 [15:20] <Dante107> yeah
#2295 [15:20] <Dante107> +il do that
#2296 [15:20] <Mathuin> OKAY. I have updated my Forum page on my epicness. Now I must share with Facebook.
#2297 [15:20] <xaviergmail> :D
#2298 [15:24] <Mathuin> Shoes on because it's ice cream time.
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#2300 [15:25] <Dante107> dont hurry eating ice cream you could get into real trouble witht eh ice cream police department
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#2302 [15:25] <SkiingPenguins> they freeze your brain.. it's their version of the taser
#2303 [15:25] <ciaron> is the compass broken in multi?
#2304 [15:26] <ciaron> i just made one and it ain't got a needle
#2305 [15:26] <mbentley> mine works fine
#2306 [15:26] <SkiingPenguins> O_O
#2307 [15:26] <xales> no...I think they work fine
#2308 [15:26] <Dante107> :(
#2309 [15:26] <ciaron> damn
#2310 [15:26] <mbentley> have any client mods?
#2311 [15:26] <ciaron> texture pack yer
#2312 [15:26] <mbentley> tried to go back to the default?
#2313 [15:27] <ciaron> yer it's the pack
#2314 [15:27] <ciaron> k mystery solved
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#2316 [15:28] <Dante107> are you guys gonna buy Dead Space 2?
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#2319 [15:32] <citizenkane> has anyone else seen/experienced with networking completely dieing when playing mc and the only way to fix it is to reboot? (my pc: win7pro x64, 4gb ram, duo core 8600, 9400 gt)
#2320 [15:32] <xales> citizenkane: Yes, a small number of people seem to have that problem
#2321 [15:33] <xales> What NIC do you have?
#2322 [15:33] <citizenkane> It's one that is built into the motherboard, an SiS191
#2323 [15:34] <citizenkane> hmm, let me try upgrading the nic drivers
#2324 [15:34] <citizenkane> It's using the default windows one at the moment
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#2326 [15:38] <citizenkane> drivers appear to be latest and up to date
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#2333 [16:06] <pepito> If I buy this game in beta do I have to repurchase it later on?
#2334 [16:06] <xales> No
#2335 [16:06] <pepito> Thanks, all i needed to know
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#2338 [16:14] <woder> is creative down again?
#2339 [16:14] <xales> yes
#2340 [16:15] <cooey> :D
#2341 [16:15] <cooey> wait, no.. not that one
#2342 [16:15] <cooey> D:
#2343 [16:15] <cooey> there it is.
#2344 [16:17] <woder> what is this : http://50.16.200.224/servers.jsp?
#2345 [16:18] <woder> i mean http://50.16.200.224/servers.jsp ?
#2346 [16:19] <cooey> hm
#2347 [16:24] <woder> what is it
#2348 [16:25] <woder> a copy of MC.netÉ
#2349 [16:25] <woder> lol
#2350 [16:25] <woder> *?
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#2352 [16:25] <GuluGulu> oi
#2353 [16:26] <xales> hello
#2354 [16:27] <lukegb> xales: you know how you want to /mode #minecrafthelp -o xales?
#2355 [16:28] <xales> ?
#2356 [16:28] <lukegb> oh damn, this isn't efnet :P
#2357 [16:28] <xales> lol
#2358 [16:28] <lukegb> xales: remembered your question yet?
#2359 [16:28] <xales> nope ._.
#2360 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> And I'm back
#2361 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Looks like I missed some fun.
#2362 [16:36] <xales> ?
#2363 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> * TheEnchanter was kicked by xales (GTFO)
#2364 [16:38] <xales> oh
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#2366 [16:42] <fradazzle> My friend and I are having problems with our server - The exact same problems as this person: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=125014
#2367 [16:43] <fradazzle> Anyone have any solutions?
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#2369 [16:43] <xales> one sec, reading
#2370 [16:43] <Zap> yo
#2371 [16:43] <Zap> Multiplayer down?
#2372 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> for.. classic or beta?
#2373 [16:43] <Zap> beta
#2374 [16:43] <fradazzle> Btea
#2375 [16:43] <xales> Zap: Classic is down, pretty sure Beta works fine
#2376 [16:43] <fradazzle> *Beta
#2377 [16:43] <xales> fradazzle: You port forwarded, correct?
#2378 [16:43] <Zap> the hell?
#2379 [16:43] <fradazzle> Correct
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#2381 [16:44] <xales> fradazzle: Firewall or 'security' software?
#2382 [16:44] <Lampshade> Guys?
#2383 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> What are you connecting with?
#2384 [16:44] <Zap> not their 192 IP address, the server one.
#2385 [16:44] <Lampshade> Minecraft=Down again lol
#2386 [16:44] <fradazzle> I'm using symantic endpoint protection
#2387 [16:44] <xales> fradazzle: That is very likely the issue
#2388 [16:44] <xales> disable it. Completely
#2389 [16:45] <fradazzle> Ok, I will try
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#2392 [16:45] <xales> Zap: What error do you get
#2393 [16:46] <fradazzle> It doesn't work.
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#2395 [16:46] <fradazzle> Connection: timed out
#2396 [16:46] <Lampshade> Moll?
#2397 [16:46] <xales> fradazzle: Are you sure you port-forwarded correctly?
#2398 [16:46] <fradazzle> My friend and I can connect when we're on the same router
#2399 [16:46] <xales> Lampshade: mollstam is sleeping
#2400 [16:46] <xales> fradazzle: Then you probably didn't port-forward correctly
#2401 [16:46] <fradazzle> I'm not 100% sure but I don't see what I've done wrong
#2402 [16:46] <Lampshade> Alright
#2403 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> fradazzle - Can you take a screenshot of your port forward settings?
#2404 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> upload it to imgur.com or something
#2405 [16:47] <Lampshade> Because, Minecraft is down
#2406 [16:47] <xales> Lampshade: and I'm sure he knows its down, when it goes down
#2407 [16:47] <Lampshade> Nevermind
#2408 [16:47] <Lampshade> But servers are
#2409 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> You don't have to tell us every time the servers go down/up
#2410 [16:47] <Lampshade> I know
#2411 [16:48] <Lampshade> But, it's just fun for me
#2412 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> The servers are in a state of flux, they're unstable at best. We all know this. mollstam is working very hard to remedy this problem
#2413 [16:48] <Lampshade> I know he works very hard, I feel bad for him
#2414 [16:48] <Lampshade> I'm just bored, And I just beat Earthbound again
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#2416 [16:49] <Zap> would that affect multiplayer stuff, grey?
#2417 [16:49] <Lampshade> !ping
#2418 [16:49] <feenyx> Lampshade: go play Chrono Trigger, and achieve atleast three different endings, then come back :)
#2419 [16:50] <crickets> Lampshade Your Ping time was 0.822 Seconds.
#2420 [16:50] <Zap> Also, hey comatose, working on it.
#2421 [16:50] <Lampshade> Bahh, I think Mother 3 is better
#2422 [16:50] <xales> Zap: What error do you get
#2423 [16:50] <feenyx> How about Xenosaga?
#2424 [16:50] <feenyx> or for that matter, Terranigma <3
#2425 [16:50] <Zap> Gotta ask comatosegamer, the server is in his room. Eric, you there?
#2426 [16:50] <Lampshade> Xenosaga?
#2427 [16:51] <Zap> ERIC I WILL FIND MIKE'S CAT AND SO HELP ME LORD
#2428 [16:51] <comatosegamer> What are you asking me?
#2429 [16:51] <Zap> oh, there we go.
#2430 [16:51] <feenyx> my mind mixed up. Xenosaga was playstation. There was a xeno-something for SNES though
#2431 [16:51] <comatosegamer> oh cool
#2432 [16:51] <comatosegamer> so fix it
#2433 [16:51] <Lampshade> Mother 3 Is on gamebot
#2434 [16:51] <Lampshade> Gameboy
#2435 [16:51] <Zap> What does Mike say the issue is?
#2436 [16:52] <Zap> Cut out the lying bits.
#2437 [16:52] <comatosegamer> server crashed
#2438 [16:52] <Zap> More specifically?
#2439 [16:52] <comatosegamer> it's... not working?
#2440 [16:52] <xales> Zap: What error do you get when trying to connect
#2441 [16:52] <Zap> It worked before, then suddenly stopped working. What could cause that?
#2442 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> "My car makes this funny noise, fix it"
#2443 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Is what I think of when you say that
#2444 [16:53] <comatosegamer> the server got corrupted
#2445 [16:53] <comatosegamer> it crashed while saving.
#2446 [16:53] <Zap> ^
#2447 [16:53] <comatosegamer> did you fix that guy's car?
#2448 [16:53] <fradazzle> ok, heres the screenshot: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=rtozt5&s=7
#2449 [16:54] <Zap> the car? what?
#2450 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Hah, one, I'm not a mechanic, two, I'd laugh that guy out and send him on his merry way if I did
#2451 [16:54] <comatosegamer> That poor
#2452 [16:54] <comatosegamer> man
#2453 [16:54] <Zap> Ok, so it said the server was corrupt, right?
#2454 [16:54] <comatosegamer> if only he'd gone to House
#2455 [16:54] <Zap> What else did Mike say.
#2456 [16:55] <comatosegamer> no no wait
#2457 [16:55] <comatosegamer> off topic
#2458 [16:55] <comatosegamer> fix the server
#2459 [16:55] <comatosegamer> please
#2460 [16:55] <Zap> EXPLAIN WHAT THE PROBLEM IS
#2461 [16:55] <comatosegamer> I can't!
#2462 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Then we can't help you
#2463 [16:55] <Zap> Then put Mike on!
#2464 [16:55] <comatosegamer> Mike's the one who know about servers
#2465 [16:55] <comatosegamer> and he's busy fixing it
#2466 [16:55] <fradazzle> Is there anything that is wrong with this: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=rtozt5&s=7 ????
#2467 [16:55] <Zap> Oh, yeah, clearly.
#2468 [16:55] <xales> fradazzle: Are you sure 192.168.1.8 is the correct IP?
#2469 [16:55] <comatosegamer> hey
#2470 [16:56] <Zap> Put him on chat, let him ask whatever issue he has about.
#2471 [16:56] <comatosegamer> this is mike sup?
#2472 [16:56] <Zap> ok mike, this is the minecraft server help thing, this is Kyle
#2473 [16:56] <comatosegamer> cool
#2474 [16:56] <Zap> These people are smart and know things.
#2475 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> How can we help you Mike?
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#2477 [16:56] <comatosegamer> haha I think I'm ok, just didn't make backup of the sever
#2478 [16:56] <comatosegamer> so map got corrupted
#2479 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#2480 [16:57] <fradazzle> I'll check and try some other ones that it could be - .12 and .1
#2481 [16:57] <Zap> Wait, are you trying to restore our previous game, or just fixing the server?
#2482 [16:57] <Zap> We can deal with a reset.
#2483 [16:57] <comatosegamer> yeah I'll just generate a new map
#2484 [16:57] <xales> fradazzle: Why don't you just look up what it is
#2485 [16:57] <Zap> oh for F....lol
#2486 [16:57] <Zap> Alright, tell Eric to text me the number or put in on AIM when you know it.
#2487 [16:58] <fradazzle> It's 192.168.2.12
#2488 [16:58] <Zap> And, thank you smart people of minecrafthelp, as always.
#2489 [16:58] <comatosegamer> i set the new sever box to point to the same address and port
#2490 [16:58] <Zap> ok, maybe not putting it here lol
#2491 [16:58] <fradazzle> And that doesn't work
#2492 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> We didn't do anything...
#2493 [16:58] <Zap> alright
#2494 [16:59] <xales> fradazzle: Do you have anything on the server-ip line in server.properties?
#2495 [16:59] <Zap> although, still doesnt work mike
#2496 [16:59] <fradazzle> No, there's nothing.
#2497 [16:59] <comatosegamer> yeah he's gone
#2498 [16:59] <xales> You are sure that 192.168.2.12 is the correct address?
#2499 [17:00] <fradazzle> I'm sure
#2500 [17:00] <fradazzle> I'll double check
#2501 [17:02] <fradazzle> Hold up, It's changed
#2502 [17:02] <fradazzle> Thank you very much, it's working now.
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#2511 [17:12] <chesser45> please help me get my public ip going
#2512 [17:12] <chesser45> so i can have a server
#2513 [17:12] <xales> What do you mean?
#2514 [17:12] <xales> Do you mean port-forward?
#2515 [17:13] <chesser45> sorry yea
#2516 [17:13] <chesser45> I followed port forward.com
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#2518 [17:13] <xales> Do you have a firewall or other 'security' program?
#2519 [17:13] <chesser45> but their meathod skips steps or my router is a different.com
#2520 [17:13] <chesser45> yea
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#2522 [17:13] <chesser45> basic router firewall
#2523 [17:14] <xales> Turn it off
#2524 [17:14] <chesser45> ok
#2525 [17:14] <xales> Also, what model of router is it
#2526 [17:15] <chesser45> dva-g3810BNATLA
#2527 [17:15] <chesser45> na/tL*
#2528 [17:16] <chesser45> sorry my typing sucks today
#2529 [17:17] <chesser45> what else do I need to do?
#2530 [17:17] <xales> Can you take a screenshot of your port-forward rule
#2531 [17:18] <xales> also, ensure that the security option on the router is set to 'Minimal security' or 'Off'
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#2533 [17:19] <chesser45> its set to minimal
#2534 [17:19] <chesser45> no off
#2535 [17:19] <xales> ok, screenshot of the port-forward rule would help
#2536 [17:20] <chesser45> sec
#2537 [17:23] <chesser45> how do u want it linked to the irc?
#2538 [17:24] <xales> upload it somewhere, like imgur
#2539 [17:24] <xales> and paste a link
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#2541 [17:24] <Wilco> Hello
#2542 [17:24] <xales> hello
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#2544 [17:25] <chesser45> ok
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#2546 [17:25] <Wilco> was minecraft updated within the last 3 days? im suddenly getting errors with a mod (MinecartMania)
#2547 [17:25] <xales> No, no updates
#2548 [17:25] <elmo> I need some help regarding Minecraft in Linux. For somehow it crashes when i fire it up. This problem becomes when I fire it up in SP or MP. Any conclusions?
#2549 [17:26] <xales> elmo: Is there a crash report?
#2550 [17:26] <elmo> xales: yeah, let me get it
#2551 [17:26] <xales> put it on http://pastebin.com/
#2552 [17:26] <chesser45> http://bradkeller.imgur.com/minecraft#DldFS
#2553 [17:27] <Wilco> any thoughts on the best way to use mods? i've found an old version of something called 'hmod' but surely there must be something more up to date
#2554 [17:27] <xales> Wilco: hmod is for servers, and unfortunately, we don't support modding in here
#2555 [17:28] <elmo> xales: http://pastebin.com/wpVhiMzv
#2556 [17:28] <xales> chesser45: Can you take a screenshot of the list of rules, rather than the page to add one
#2557 [17:29] <chesser45> define that please
#2558 [17:29] <xales> chesser45: Define what?
#2559 [17:29] <elmo> chesser45: i guess he want an overview of all open ports on the router
#2560 [17:29] <xales> chesser45: This http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DVA-G3810BN-TL/DVA-G3810BN-TL4.jpg
#2561 [17:30] <xales> elmo: Try moving/renaming the ~/.minecraft folder
#2562 [17:30] <elmo> xales: ain't helping
#2563 [17:30] <elmo> tried that twice
#2564 [17:30] <Wilco> any suggestions on support for server-side Minecraft and/or mods?
#2565 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> #bukkit
#2566 [17:31] <xales> elmo: When do you get the error?
#2567 [17:31] <elmo> As i said above.
#2568 [17:31] <elmo> When i try to enter SP and MP
#2569 [17:32] <elmo> or any of those menu-buttons
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#2571 [17:32] <xales> Try re-downloading the launcher?
#2572 [17:33] <elmo> xales: tried four times
#2573 [17:33] <xales> What distribution, and what version of Linux?
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#2575 [17:35] <elmo> xales: Linux Mint
#2576 [17:35] <elmo> Linux Mint 10
#2577 [17:35] <elmo> Based on Ubuntu and Debian
#2578 [17:35] <xales> What version of Linux?
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#2581 [17:35] <Mario8236> Hey
#2582 [17:36] <elmo> xales: Linux gudrun 2.6.35-22-generic-pae #35-Ubuntu SMP
#2583 [17:36] <Mario8236> =/
#2584 [17:36] <Mario8236> I have a question about one of my servers.
#2585 [17:36] <xales> elmo: Are you using the 'proprietary' drivers?
#2586 [17:36] <xales> Mario8236: Shoot
#2587 [17:36] <Mario8236> Wut?
#2588 [17:37] <elmo> xales: yes
#2589 [17:37] <elmo> I am
#2590 [17:37] <xales> Mario8236: Ask the question
#2591 [17:37] <xales> elmo: One sec
#2592 [17:37] <xales> Kealper
#2593 [17:37] <Mario8236> ok
#2594 [17:37] <xales> come be helpful!
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#2596 [17:38] <Kealper> rawr
#2597 [17:38] <elmo> xales: is this a common problem with MC?
#2598 [17:38] <Mario8236> When you chat, how do you make a "[Admin]" thing before your name?
#2599 [17:38] <xales> elmo: Don't think so
#2600 [17:38] <elmo> hmm
#2601 [17:38] <xales> Mario8236: You use a mod
#2602 [17:38] <Kealper> i smell Mint
#2603 [17:38] <xales> Kealper: http://pastebin.com/wpVhiMzv on Mint
#2604 [17:38] <elmo> I tried to get some help in #minecraft @Qnet
#2605 [17:38] <Mario8236> But how do I configure the Bukkit mod
#2606 [17:38] <Mario8236> ?
#2607 [17:38] <elmo> But we didn't find any solution
#2608 [17:38] <xales> that isn't an official channel, I doubt they would be very helpful
#2609 [17:38] <xales> Mario8236: #bukkit
#2610 [17:38] <xales> this isn't a channel for mod support
#2611 [17:39] <Mario8236> oh
#2612 [17:39] <Mario8236> ok
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#2614 [17:39] <Kealper> uhh....what all do you have plugged in to your computer? (usb stuff)
#2615 [17:40] <Kealper> elmo: what devices are plugged in to your computer's usb ports? any strange things like a Wacom pad or something?
#2616 [17:41] <feenyx> Kealper: keyboard, mouse, usb->microusb for dslr, one logitech usb headset with mic, one random made-in-china usb->playstsation controller adapter, and one usb->microusb for my phone
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#2618 [17:41] <elmo> Kealper: keyboard and mouse
#2619 [17:41] <elmo> nothing else
#2620 [17:41] <Kealper> lol feenyx
#2621 [17:41] <elmo> headphones (tho not in USB)
#2622 [17:41] <Kealper> elmo: hmm...just for craps and grins run minecraft as root to see if that works
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#2624 [17:42] <elmo> Kealper: didn't work :(
#2625 [17:42] <elmo> same error
#2626 [17:42] <chesser45> sorrry
#2627 [17:42] <Kealper> hmmmmm....
#2628 [17:42] <chesser45> so what do I do
#2629 [17:43] <Kealper> i really do not know then, i've never seen that error before, but it seems to be something with java trying to init some input devices and failing to do so
#2630 [17:44] <Kealper> have you tried reinstalling java?
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#2632 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - what error?
#2633 [17:44] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com/wpVhiMzv
#2634 [17:44] <elmo> Kealper: three times
#2635 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#2636 [17:44] <rad> i am connected!
#2637 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> I know the problem
#2638 [17:44] <elmo> WOOHOO
#2639 [17:44] <Kealper> :O
#2640 [17:44] <elmo> not rm -rf /
#2641 [17:44] <elmo> dats a lie
#2642 [17:44] <Kealper> xD
#2643 [17:45] <rad> someone help me decompile modloader!
#2644 [17:45] <Kealper> rad: no
#2645 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> sudo chmod go=u /dev/input/*
#2646 [17:45] <rad> :(
#2647 [17:45] * GreyVulpine nods sagely
#2647 [17:45] <Kealper> rad: read the channel rules
#2648 [17:45] <Kealper> OH.....i see what you did there
#2649 [17:46] <Kealper> yeah i guess that would make it screw up too :/
#2650 [17:46] <chesser45> ok here is my open ports picture http://i.imgur.com/W1xUA.jpg
#2651 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> I had somebody with the same problem the other day
#2652 [17:46] <rad> "Modding is not supported"
#2653 [17:46] * Kealper takes note
#2653 [17:46] <chesser45> sorry for the wait
#2654 [17:46] <rad> lolk
#2655 [17:46] <rad> minecraft help seems rather useless than
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#2657 [17:46] <elmo> GreyVulpine: sorry
#2658 [17:46] <elmo> you failed
#2659 [17:46] <Kealper> what a 14 year old
#2660 [17:46] <elmo> :(
#2661 [17:46] <elmo> ain't worked
#2662 [17:46] <Kealper> O.o
#2663 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> It.. didn't?
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#2665 [17:46] <elmo> maybe i shall replace minecraft.jar ?
#2666 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> wait a sec..
#2667 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> pastebin /home/elmo/hs_err_pid18616.log
#2668 [17:47] <ciaron> hmm after restarting a server, it doesn't resume the map - just generates a new one, is that expected?
#2669 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> I didn't look at the full error log
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#2671 [17:47] <elmo> GreyVulpine: you want the log?
#2672 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> at "/home/elmo/hs_err_pid18616.log", yes
#2673 [17:48] <Kealper> ciaron: no, that's not normal...what os is your server running on?
#2674 [17:48] <Kealper> also ciaron, how did your server shut down last? did it just crash or did you properly shut it down?
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#2676 [17:49] <ciaron> is on mac
#2677 [17:49] <ciaron> and yeah it was a proper shutdown
#2678 [17:49] <Luke1020> Can someone help me get mIRC connected to my zMod server?
#2679 [17:49] <Kealper> ciaron: does minecraft_server.jar have write permissions in it's directory?
#2680 [17:49] <chesser45> @xales
#2681 [17:50] <Kealper> Luke1020: what's a zMod server?
#2682 [17:50] <chesser45> damn how do u poke som1
#2683 [17:50] <Luke1020> It's a server wrapper.
#2684 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> unofficial update to hmod
#2685 [17:50] <Kealper> oh
#2686 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> Trying to make it compatible with the latest beta
#2687 [17:50] <Luke1020> that has IRC functions, but i'm not sure how to connect it to mIRC
#2688 [17:50] <Kealper> then i guess it would be a full-blown mod, not a wrapper
#2689 [17:50] <Luke1020> and it is NOT an hMod update, its a brand new one
#2690 [17:50] <Kealper> Luke1020: check the settings?
#2691 [17:51] <Luke1020> this is in the settings text file. maybe you guys can translate?
#2692 [17:51] <Luke1020> Network:irc.esper.net
#2693 [17:51] <Luke1020> Nickname:Luke1020
#2694 [17:51] <Luke1020> NickservPassword:
#2695 [17:51] <Luke1020> OpChannel:#LukeMCop
#2696 [17:51] <Luke1020> PublicChannel:#LukeMCPub
#2697 [17:51] <Kealper> i would assume that it has something somewhere saying what server address/port and channel that it should connect to
#2698 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> It's a rewrite, at best
#2699 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> But it's based off of hmod
#2700 [17:52] <Kealper> Luke1020: you can't have it use the same name as you
#2701 [17:52] <Kealper> it houls use a different nickname
#2702 [17:52] <ciaron> Kealper: well it has write perms to .minecraft
#2703 [17:52] <Kealper> should* lol
#2704 [17:52] <elmo> GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/rjDmmpyN
#2705 [17:52] <ciaron> Kealper: or does it write files elsewhere?
#2706 [17:52] <Kealper> ciaron: minecraft_server.jar saves all it's files (including the world) to the same directory it is run from
#2707 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> hmmm
#2708 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> [fglrx_dri.so+0x167e8a3]
#2709 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> Why does that ring a bell again
#2710 [17:53] <Kealper> ati drivers for linux
#2711 [17:53] <Luke1020> how do I get OP powerers within mIRC? It people can't see what i say in mIRC but I can read things happening in my server?
#2712 [17:53] <Kealper> Luke1020: i really don't know, i've never even used an irc plugin for *mod
#2713 [17:53] <Luke1020> ok. i'll mess with it for a bit. thanks
#2714 [17:54] <Mas3212> At Luk1020 what i would sugest you do is change the "Nickname:Luke1020" to someting lie "Nickname:ServerBot"
#2715 [17:54] <Kealper> i wish TkTech still had his wiki page up with minecraft's protocol docs
#2716 [17:55] <elmo> GreyVulpine: do you find anything intresting?
#2717 [17:55] <chesser45> can someone please help me with port forwarding for my server
#2718 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> I'm trying to look up why [fglrx_dri.so]...
#2719 [17:55] <chesser45> my ports are here http://i.imgur.com/W1xUA.jpg
#2720 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Been a while, I know kealper said they were ati drivers, I can't remember what the issue was with them
#2721 [17:56] <elmo> chesser45: have you forwarded MC server port?
#2722 [17:56] <elmo> make a new rule with the local IP-adress to the server and point the port?
#2723 [17:57] <chesser45> I tried but Im pretty lost
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#2725 [17:57] <elmo> chesser45: Add new rule -> Enter server ip -> Enter MC server port -> Choose TCP/UDP -> Save
#2726 [17:57] <chesser45> ok
#2727 [17:57] <chesser45> ill try it
#2728 [17:58] <ciaron> Kealper: sorry my mistake it's not a mac, was windows
#2729 [17:58] <Kealper> o.o
#2730 [17:58] <Lampshade> Hmm
#2731 [17:58] <Lampshade> Is minecraft classic servrs back up?
#2732 [17:59] <CelesteA> I'm sure you guys get this alot, but what exatly has been going on with the multi play servers on classic?
#2733 [17:59] <Kealper> ciaron: where is your minecraft server at on your computer?
#2734 [17:59] <CelesteA> kik
#2735 [17:59] <CelesteA> *lol
#2736 [17:59] <Lampshade> Celeste-Update-Migration
#2737 [17:59] <Kealper> CelesteA: minecraft.net has been moving around a lot lately, that messes up the classic servers' "pings" back to minecraft.net
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#2739 [18:00] <chesser45> ok does this look right?
#2740 [18:00] <chesser45> 192.168.1.50
#2741 [18:00] <chesser45> 192.168.1.50 Application - TCP Any -> 50500 Active
#2742 [18:01] <CelesteA> Oh, ok. He he.
#2743 [18:01] <Kealper> chesser45: does your minecraft server use port 50500 in it's config?
#2744 [18:01] <chesser45> yea
#2745 [18:01] <Kealper> then yes
#2746 [18:01] <chesser45> ok
#2747 [18:02] <ciaron> Kealper: just under a random directory on c: - should have write perms
#2748 [18:02] <chesser45> but would they connect to the ip listed above or my public ip?
#2749 [18:02] <elmo> chesser45: to your public IP
#2750 [18:02] <elmo> The IP above is your local
#2751 [18:02] <Kealper> ciaron: it's not in Program Files, is it?
#2752 [18:02] <ciaron> Kealper: nah
#2753 [18:03] <elmo> Nobody except the people in your network have the premission to connect via the local ip
#2754 [18:03] <elmo> GreyVulpine: any succes jet? :3
#2755 [18:03] <Kealper> weird....only thing i can think of then is the world's level.dat got corrupt
#2756 [18:03] <Kealper> ciaron: did it do that just the one time, or does it do it all the time?
#2757 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Elmo, the only thing I can suggest is, try an open source driver for your ATI card?
#2758 [18:04] <elmo> GreyVulpine: do you got any good providers?
#2759 [18:04] <ciaron> Kealper: first time i've tried it tbh, let me try again
#2760 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Ah, here's the getsatisfaction report
#2761 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/ubuntu_sun_java_ati_hd5850_fglrx_drivers_crash
#2762 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> open source drivers, umm
#2763 [18:08] <elmo> GreyVulpine: i guess the simplest way is an workaround done by MCs coders?
#2764 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_r500_expanded&num=1
#2765 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> There's where they talk about it, but I can't find a download link
#2766 [18:09] <elmo> GreyVulpine: is it 100% sure that the ATI driver is lost?
#2767 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Check out the getsatisfaction report, you're not the only one to experience this
#2768 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> And it's been around for a while
#2769 [18:11] <chesser45> can someone try to connect to my server to seee if it is set up properly 173.180.39.63:50500
#2770 [18:11] <Kealper> !check 173.180.39.63:50500
#2771 [18:11] <chesser45> that was me...
#2772 [18:11] <Kealper> yes, yes it was
#2773 [18:12] <Kealper> anyways...that means it didn't work
#2774 [18:12] <elmo> GreyVulpine: wat report? D:
#2775 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/ubuntu_sun_java_ati_hd5850_fglrx_drivers_crash
#2776 [18:14] <chesser45> ok
#2777 [18:14] <chesser45> damn
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#2779 [18:15] <elmo> GreyVulpine: i read it
#2780 [18:15] <elmo> seems like Wine is the only working solution :(
#2781 [18:15] <chesser45> how do I test it myself?
#2782 [18:15] <chesser45> with the check! thing
#2783 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> elmo - Try the open source version of the ati drivers
#2784 [18:15] <elmo> chesser45: type !check *your-public-ip*
#2785 [18:16] <elmo> GreyVulpine: what i understood, that didn't help
#2786 [18:16] <elmo> and, according to the posts, the open source drivers slacks the system
#2787 [18:17] <ciaron> Kealper: looks like each time it's generating a new map
#2788 [18:17] <chesser45> !check *173.180.39.63*
#2789 [18:18] <AndrewPH> !haspaid DerpHerp
#2790 [18:18] <ciaron> Kealper: did you say it's current dir for map files under windows too - or was that just for mac?
#2791 [18:18] <AndrewPH> lolololibotu
#2792 [18:18] <Kealper> ciaron: for all
#2793 [18:18] <Kealper> ciaron: try throwing it all on your desktop
#2794 [18:18] <chesser45> !check *173.180.39.63:1012
#2795 [18:18] <Kealper> and running it from there
#2796 [18:18] <Kealper> chesser45: no *
#2797 [18:18] <ciaron> Kealper: even if running from the exe?
#2798 [18:19] <Kealper> ciaron: indeed
#2799 [18:19] <chesser45> !check *173.180.39.63:50500*
#2800 [18:19] <Kealper> ....................
#2801 [18:19] <chesser45> fudge
#2802 [18:19] <Kealper> !check 173.180.39.63:50500
#2803 [18:19] <Kealper> that
#2804 [18:20] <chesser45> ok im totally lost......
#2805 [18:20] <Kealper> your server is running, correct?
#2806 [18:20] <Kealper> and you can connect to the server ip 192.168.1.50:50500
#2807 [18:22] <chesser45> I could orginally connect with my laptop from: 5.139.97.37:50500
#2808 [18:22] <Kealper> that is a Hamachi ip
#2809 [18:22] <chesser45> I used hamchi
#2810 [18:22] <chesser45> yea
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#2812 [18:23] <NiceManWithNoBeardSorryBoutTha> hey
#2813 [18:23] <chesser45> But even when I meshed with friends they couldnt connect
#2814 [18:23] <Kealper> try connecting with the ip that you set in the forward
#2815 [18:23] <Kealper> NiceMan: your nick is a bit long, dont ya think?
#2816 [18:23] <NiceManWithNoBeardSorryBoutTha> does anybody know of a freebuild server that is currently on?
#2817 [18:23] <chesser45> thats my public ip
#2818 [18:23] <chesser45> 173.180.39.63
#2819 [18:23] <Kealper> chesser45: i mean the local ip, the one you put in the forward
#2820 [18:24] <Kealper> NiceMan try joining #smp
#2821 [18:24] <chesser45> ok
#2822 [18:24] <chesser45> sec
#2823 [18:26] <chesser45> kk
#2824 [18:26] <chesser45> 192.168.1.50
#2825 [18:26] <chesser45> 192.168.1.50:50500 worked
#2826 [18:26] <chesser45> for me
#2827 [18:26] <Kealper> hmm....
#2828 [18:26] <Kealper> !check 173.180.39.63:50500
#2829 [18:26] <chesser45> but I cant figure out how to port forward it to my public ip
#2830 [18:27] <chesser45> ( thats my local ip)
#2831 [18:27] <Kealper> chesser45: yes, i know the 192.168 one is your local ip
#2832 [18:27] <chesser45> just making sure
#2833 [18:27] <Kealper> are you sure the forward is set up right in your router? (screenshot of it, if possible?)
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#2835 [18:29] <chesser45> http://bradkeller.imgur.com/
#2836 [18:30] <chesser45> if you need another tell me
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#2843 [18:33] <chesser45> Kealper: do they show what u want?
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#2847 [18:38] <Silent> hi
#2848 [18:38] <Silent> =)
#2849 [18:39] <Silent> is there any possibility to play MineCraft with 2GB of Ram?
#2850 [18:39] <Silent> i cant play it on my MacBook Air more than a few minutes till it runs out of ram Oo
#2851 [18:41] <feenyx> AuBot: set an additional dns on your nic :p
#2852 [18:42] <chesser45> defs man
#2853 [18:42] <chesser45> I play on vista wth 2gigs
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#2857 [18:44] <mib_t1ervo> i need help with a sytem error i have when trying to lauch outdated minecraft
#2858 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> What error?
#2859 [18:45] <mib_t1ervo> well, when the game launches, the colours go screwy, and textures appear as sickening smudges
#2860 [18:45] <mib_t1ervo> the inventory messes up too
#2861 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean, "Goes screwy"?
#2862 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on? Computer specs?
#2863 [18:45] <mib_t1ervo> any ideas on what to do?
#2864 [18:46] <mib_t1ervo> should i re-install java
#2865 [18:46] <mib_t1ervo> do i need a direct-x program?
#2866 [18:46] <mib_t1ervo> i know i need a new program...
#2867 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft doesn't use Directx
#2868 [18:46] <mib_t1ervo> i just dont know which one :(
#2869 [18:46] <Silent> hm
#2870 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Again, what kind of computer is it?
#2871 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Can you give me any specs at all?
#2872 [18:46] <Silent> 2 mins and im out of ram ...
#2873 [18:47] <Silent> can i play on smaller levels in the beta?
#2874 [18:47] <Silent> or are they all huge? Oo
#2875 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Silent - You can get the .jar and execute it with smaller limitations
#2876 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> -Xms is the starting allocation
#2877 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> -XmX is the max
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#2880 [18:49] <shadoom> oh okay ^^
#2881 [18:49] <Raikuron> Sand has been acting very weird. It mysteriously terraformed before my eyes before and it seems to only obey gravity when it feels like it.
#2882 [18:49] <shadoom> so clients which make you "fly" are also legal ? oO
#2883 [18:49] <mib_t1ervo> kk ill go update java and brb
#2884 [18:49] <mib_t1ervo> thnx :D
#2885 [18:49] <Raikuron> By transformed, I mean it got destroyed or something. A ton of it, with no reason/
#2886 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> shadoom - Third party clients are also not supported
#2887 [18:50] <chesser45> !check *173.180.39.63:50500
#2888 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> You use mods at your own risk
#2889 [18:50] <AndrewPH> chesser45, are you dumb
#2890 [18:50] <chesser45> very
#2891 [18:50] <chesser45> actualy
#2892 [18:50] <AndrewPH> Raikuron, yeah it's really cool when that happens to a whole desert (it all collapses underneath you)
#2893 [18:50] <Silent> ok i will try it
#2894 [18:50] <shadoom> yeah i know im not asking for support just asking if using them would be legal/illegal
#2895 [18:50] <chesser45> im not good at this stuff :(
#2896 [18:50] <Raikuron> AndrewPH: But why?
#2897 [18:51] <AndrewPH> Raikuron, when a chunk is generated, sometimes physics is ignored for sand and gravel
#2898 [18:51] <Raikuron> Shadoom, even if it was illegal, you're not gonna get arrested.
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#2900 [18:51] <AndrewPH> and when they're activated, their physics go all like 'OH GOD IM IN THE AIR OH GOD'
#2901 [18:51] <shadoom> ah okay i just bought a new police secure lock for my door ... XD
#2902 [18:51] <AndrewPH> and then they fall, activating the nearby sand blocks
#2903 [18:51] <Raikuron> AndrewPH: Notch really should do something about that.
#2904 [18:51] <Silent> how do i start it with smaller limitations? via terminal?
#2905 [18:52] <AndrewPH> Raikuron, nah, I like it, it's pretty cool seeing a whole desert change violently before your eyes
#2906 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes Silent
#2907 [18:52] <Silent> kk ill try
#2908 [18:52] <Raikuron> AndrewPH: Have it optional, then? I'm building a glass house with a sand floor, since you can't put pressure plates on glass, and I thought it was good, then BOOM! the floor collapses.
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#2910 [18:52] <AndrewPH> Raikuron, and this is why you check beforehand :p
#2911 [18:53] <AndrewPH> anyways...
#2912 [18:53] <AndrewPH> I'm off to my birthday dinrar! Seey'all
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#2916 [18:54] <Raikuron_> I'm too lazy to do it myself, so someone please kick my clone.
#2917 [18:54] <Silent> is it possible to save that?
#2918 [18:54] <Silent> the settings?
#2919 [18:55] <Raikuron_> STOP ITCHING, SCROTUM!
#2920 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> O.o
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#2922 [18:55] <Raikuron_> Nothing to freak out about. It's only bad because society says it's bad.
#2923 [18:55] <mib_nugtr6> that fixed nothing T_T
#2924 [18:56] <mib_nugtr6> oh im srry...
#2925 [18:56] <mib_nugtr6> im the guy from ealier
#2926 [18:56] <Raikuron_> Er, I'd rather not. I'm not a masochist.
#2927 [18:56] <mib_nugtr6> the "screwy graphics" guy
#2928 [18:56] <mib_nugtr6> updating java did not help
#2929 [18:57] <Raikuron_> And...I've got some sort of liquid on the top of my penis which could be one of two things. In any case, I'll shut up 'till this guy's thing is solved or he gives up.
#2930 [18:57] <mib_nugtr6> so...
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#2932 [18:58] <Raikuron_> >_> I break the hell out of the rules anywhere, whether I want to or not.
#2933 [18:59] <mib_nugtr6> theres still that.. problem i have...
#2934 [18:59] <Raikuron_> Yes. Yes you are.
#2935 [18:59] <Raikuron_> But I am not aquainted with what a "privlage" is.
#2936 [19:00] <mib_nugtr6> ...
#2937 [19:00] <mib_nugtr6> please stop fighting
#2938 [19:00] <Silent> hm still does not work
#2939 [19:00] <mib_nugtr6> i want to PLAY MINECRAFT!!!!!
#2940 [19:00] <mib_nugtr6> NO FIGHTING!
#2941 [19:00] <Silent> even if i take 600mb as maximum
#2942 [19:00] <mib_nugtr6> ...
#2943 [19:00] <Silent> it uses more than 1 gb
#2944 [19:00] <chesser45> who doesnt
#2945 [19:00] <mib_nugtr6> ?
#2946 [19:00] <mib_nugtr6> what does that mean?
#2947 [19:00] <mib_nugtr6> im a computer noob btw
#2948 [19:01] <Raikuron_> It means it uses more than 1 GB.
#2949 [19:01] <chesser45> of ram........
#2950 [19:01] <Raikuron_> It means it uses more than one GB of RAM, then.
#2951 [19:01] <chesser45> the stuff that lets u run apllication on ur computer
#2952 [19:01] <Raikuron_> Random Access Memory.
#2953 [19:02] <Raikuron_> Stores data that needs to be quickly retrieved and such.
#2954 [19:02] <Raikuron_> Application data is put there.
#2955 [19:02] <Raikuron_> Portions of your hard drive can also be dedicated to Virtual RAM, which is essentially using HDD space as RAM.
#2956 [19:02] <mib_nugtr6> i got a gig of ram i think...
#2957 [19:03] <mib_nugtr6> ...
#2958 [19:03] <Kealper> ok....got my computer to stop acting up
#2959 [19:03] <chesser45> aubot: can u teamviewer my computer to help me setup my server?
#2960 [19:03] <Raikuron_> >_> What is this, 1998?
#2961 [19:03] <Kealper> chesser45: that was me talking through aubot lol
#2962 [19:03] <mib_nugtr6> i really need to find out how to retrieve computer specs :/
#2963 [19:03] <Silent> jeah 9mb free
#2964 [19:03] <Silent> ...
#2965 [19:03] <chesser45> uhh bud
#2966 [19:03] <chesser45> are u on a windows computer?
#2967 [19:03] <Raikuron_> Use Speccy.
#2968 [19:03] <chesser45> mib..
#2969 [19:03] <mib_nugtr6> anyone want to tell me how to do that?
#2970 [19:04] <Raikuron_> Use Speccy.
#2971 [19:04] <mib_nugtr6> and yes im on windows XP
#2972 [19:04] <chesser45> ok
#2973 [19:04] <chesser45> go to computer
#2974 [19:04] <chesser45> and right click and select properties from the menu
#2975 [19:04] <chesser45> of option you get
#2976 [19:04] <Raikuron_> Eh, Speccy wiill give you more detailed information, but whatever.
#2977 [19:04] <chesser45> options
#2978 [19:04] <chesser45> dude hes a noob
#2979 [19:05] <chesser45> easiest way possible
#2980 [19:05] <Raikuron_> So?
#2981 [19:05] <mib_nugtr6> ok brb
#2982 [19:05] <Raikuron_> >_> Not really. If he can't install a program, run it, and copy paste what it says, then he's gone below noob. He's gone into the Dumbass Levels.
#2983 [19:05] <mib_nugtr6> dude not cool
#2984 [19:06] <Kealper> ok now that i'm actually back
#2985 [19:06] <mib_nugtr6> ive installed a load of programs all by myself :D
#2986 [19:06] <Kealper> Raikuron_: stop insulting people
#2987 [19:06] <Raikuron_> That wasn't an insult.
#2988 [19:06] <Raikuron_> I said IF.
#2989 [19:06] <Kealper> mib_nugtr6: what is your issue?
#2990 [19:06] <mib_nugtr6> so where do i right-click (failblog moment)
#2991 [19:06] <mib_nugtr6> chesser?
#2992 [19:06] <mib_nugtr6> T_T
#2993 [19:07] <chesser45> lol anywhere
#2994 [19:07] <mib_nugtr6> im trying to find my specs on a windows XP
#2995 [19:07] <chesser45> asin white space
#2996 [19:07] <mib_nugtr6> it doesnt work on the desktop
#2997 [19:07] <mib_nugtr6> ...
#2998 [19:07] <Kealper> mib_nugtr6: hold the windows key and press the pause/break key
#2999 [19:07] <Kealper> release both
#3000 [19:07] <chesser45> go into the aplication
#3001 [19:07] <Kealper> a System Information window should open
#3002 [19:07] <chesser45> "y ccomputer"
#3003 [19:07] <chesser45> my
#3004 [19:08] <Kealper> or what chesser45 is saying
#3005 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Raikuron_ - This is a help channel, not everybody can be as l33t0 hax0rs as you. Please be open-minded about people's computer skills.
#3006 [19:08] <chesser45> or that :)
#3007 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Keep those comments to yourself.
#3008 [19:08] <mib_nugtr6> kk ill go with chesser's plan! :D
#3009 [19:08] <mib_nugtr6> brb
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#3011 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - Teamviewer?
#3012 [19:09] <mib_nugtr6> i ended up on a big properties page with several tabs
#3013 [19:09] <EchoDH> You would expect atlest for someone to have a moderate computer knowledge to even be looking into running a MC server though. Im all happy to help but when someone doesnt know where "my computer" is then to say its a little tedious is an understatement.
#3014 [19:09] <Raikuron_> I never said I was one of those. Once again, I said IF. He wanted to know his specs. I suggested an app for it, one of these guys said it would be simpler to go to My Computer and Properties, and I said it wasn't.
#3015 [19:09] <chesser45> yea
#3016 [19:09] <chesser45> please Im losing my mind
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#3018 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> EchoDH - We've had everything from people not knowing how to run minecraft, to people who don't know linux, buying a VPS and asking for basic linux command help
#3019 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> We help all kinds
#3020 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - Please PM me the info
#3021 [19:10] <Raikuron_> Must...Resist...Urges...To...Get...Him...To...Delete...System32...
#3022 [19:10] <EchoDH> lol
#3023 [19:10] <chesser45> ok
#3024 [19:10] <Kealper> Raikuron_...
#3025 [19:10] <chesser45> uhh I dont use irc
#3026 [19:10] <killking72> can somebody try and connect to my SMP server?
#3027 [19:10] <chesser45> how do u do that
#3028 [19:10] <EchoDH> IP?
#3029 [19:10] <mib_nugtr6> everyone shut up... please! IM TRYING TO GET HELP! ARGUE ON A DIFFERENT CHAT SITE, PLEASE!
#3030 [19:10] <Kealper> killking72: type !check
#3031 [19:10] <chesser45> sure
#3032 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> /msg GreyVulpine stuff
#3033 [19:10] <Raikuron_> Chesser45, if you don't use IRC, where are you know?
#3034 [19:10] <Raikuron_> *now
#3035 [19:10] <mib_nugtr6> anyway, large page, several tabs, now what?
#3036 [19:10] <chesser45> mib u use any im chats?
#3037 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Easy Raikuron_
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#3040 [19:10] <Raikuron_> CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
#3041 [19:11] <chesser45> I dont usually
#3042 [19:11] <Kealper> !kick Raikuron_
#3043 [19:11] <Kealper> stupid bot
#3044 [19:11] * crickets bonks Kealper, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#3044 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Raikuron_ - Are you here for help?
#3045 [19:11] * Kealper kicked Raikuron_ from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Raikuron_)
#3046 [19:11] <mib_nugtr6> no i am! :(
#3047 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Eh, that works too
#3048 [19:11] <killking72> hey mibnugtr
#3049 [19:11] <Silent> hm
#3050 [19:11] <killking72> umadbro?
#3051 [19:11] <mib_nugtr6> chesser?
#3052 [19:11] <Silent> 1 mb of ram left
#3053 [19:11] <mib_nugtr6> slightly
#3054 [19:11] <Silent> thats odd -.-
#3055 [19:11] <chesser45> yes?
#3056 [19:11] <chesser45> mib
#3057 [19:11] <mib_nugtr6> large page with several tabs, what do i go too?
#3058 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Silent - How much RAM free do you have on that mahine?
#3059 [19:11] <mib_nugtr6> to*
#3060 [19:11] <chesser45> go to control panel
#3061 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> machine*
#3062 [19:11] <Silent> 2GB
#3063 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> That's total
#3064 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> what else are you running on it
#3065 [19:12] <killking72> hey echo
#3066 [19:12] <mib_nugtr6> ok
#3067 [19:12] <mib_nugtr6> next...
#3068 [19:12] <killking72> did you try and connect?
#3069 [19:12] <chesser45> and select computer
#3070 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Something's eating up RAM, and it's not just minecraft
#3071 [19:12] <Silent> System Information: Model: MacBook Air • CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo L9400 (2 Cores) @ 1.86 GHz • L2: 6.29 MB • Memory: 2.00 GB • Load: 1.00 1.25 1.08 • Uptime: 53mins 24secs • Disk Space: Total: 250.66 GB; Free: 230.43 GB • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 320M • OS: Mac OS X 10.6.6 (Build 10J567) • Textual: 2.0.3 (Build #8560) (Running for 34mins 12secs)
#3072 [19:12] <mib_nugtr6> brb
#3073 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Memory: 2.00 GB
#3074 [19:12] <Silent> mom
#3075 [19:12] <chesser45> sorry select system*****
#3076 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't say how much RAM is free
#3077 [19:12] <mib_nugtr6> there's no "computer" selection...
#3078 [19:12] <mib_nugtr6> oh nvm
#3079 [19:12] <mib_nugtr6> brb
#3080 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - teamviewer info?
#3081 [19:12] <killking72> ok somebody try and connect to my server
#3082 [19:12] <Silent> 1,3 GB are free
#3083 [19:12] <killking72> 70.232.50.0
#3084 [19:12] <Silent> when minecraft is not running
#3085 [19:13] <chesser45> grey how do we pm?
#3086 [19:13] <killking72> 70.232.50.0:25565
#3087 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> /msg greyvulpine stuff here
#3088 [19:13] <mib_nugtr6> there is no system selection :(
#3089 [19:13] <Silent> Textual is currently using 26.12 MB of memory. — Information about memory use: http://is.gd/j0a9s
#3090 [19:13] <Silent> oh
#3091 [19:13] <mib_nugtr6> ...
#3092 [19:13] <chesser45> just like this/msg greyvlpine stuff here
#3093 [19:13] <mib_nugtr6> (sigh)
#3094 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> No, start with /
#3095 [19:14] <mib_nugtr6> (SIGH!!!!)
#3096 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> /msg greyvulpine Say what you need to say here
#3097 [19:14] <xales> mib_nugtr6: ?
#3098 [19:14] <chesser45> mib do u use any sort of live chat?
#3099 [19:14] <mib_nugtr6> chesser stopped helping
#3100 [19:14] <Kealper> ok back
#3101 [19:14] <chesser45> private chat man
#3102 [19:14] <xales> mib_nugtr6: What is the issue?
#3103 [19:14] <mib_nugtr6> im just tryin to find my comp specs so i can get MINECRAFT working
#3104 [19:14] <mib_nugtr6> im just tryin to find my comp specs so i can get MINECRAFT working
#3105 [19:14] <xales> What is the issue?
#3106 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> xales - graphical troubel
#3107 [19:15] <xales> oh
#3108 [19:15] <chesser45> needs to find the system info
#3109 [19:15] <chesser45> mib does
#3110 [19:15] <chesser45> that too
#3111 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> <mib_t1ervo> well, when the game launches, the colours go screwy, and textures appear as sickening smudges
#3112 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> [06:45.33pm] <mib
#3113 [19:15] <mib_nugtr6> so im on the control panel....
#3114 [19:15] <xales> mib_nugtr6: What version of Windows is it?
#3115 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_nugtr6 - Did you update your video drivers like I told you to?
#3116 [19:15] <chesser45> try and find a icon that say system
#3117 [19:15] <Kealper> xales: XP
#3118 [19:16] <mib_nugtr6> dont know how to update drivers :O
#3119 [19:16] <mib_nugtr6> and its an XP
#3120 [19:16] <chesser45> mib do u have a video card?
#3121 [19:16] <killking72> *whisper* integrated
#3122 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - I'm still waiting on your Teamviewer info
#3123 [19:17] <chesser45> greyvulpine: can u pm me
#3124 [19:17] <xales> mib_nugtr6: In Control Panel
#3125 [19:17] <xales> click 'classic view' I believe
#3126 [19:18] <mib_nugtr6> kk brb
#3127 [19:18] <mib_nugtr6> classic view [ACTIVATED]
#3128 [19:18] <killking72> anybody wana join my server and help me make a strip club?
#3129 [19:18] <xales> mib_nugtr6: Right-click on the 'System' icon
#3130 [19:18] <xales> and select 'Properties'
#3131 [19:19] <mib_nugtr6> i was on this god-forsaken page the same time chesser stopped helping!
#3132 [19:20] <xales> OK
#3133 [19:20] <mib_nugtr6> but... go on
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#3135 [19:20] <xales> Click the Hardware tab
#3136 [19:20] <xales> and click Device Manager
#3137 [19:20] <mib_nugtr6> already there, due to inferencing
#3138 [19:20] <mib_nugtr6> go on
#3139 [19:21] <mib_nugtr6> there are a lot of trees here...
#3140 [19:21] <mib_nugtr6> hello?
#3141 [19:22] <xales> oh, sorry
#3142 [19:22] <xales> click on 'Video Adapters'
#3143 [19:22] <xales> or something like that
#3144 [19:22] <xales> and let me know what the entries under it are
#3145 [19:24] <mib_nugtr6> ok brb
#3146 [19:24] <mib_nugtr6> radeon x3000 series and radeon x3000 series secondary
#3147 [19:25] <xales> one second
#3148 [19:26] <xales> I'm not sure if that will run Minecraft too well, unfortunately, but we can give it a try
#3149 [19:26] <mib_nugtr6> ...
#3150 [19:26] <mib_nugtr6> i tried it...
#3151 [19:26] <mib_nugtr6> several times
#3152 [19:26] <mib_nugtr6> it does not werk :P
#3153 [19:26] <xales> No, I mean update the drivers
#3154 [19:26] <xales> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/10-2_legacy_xp32-64_dd_ccc.exe
#3155 [19:26] <xales> ^download that
#3156 [19:27] <xales> install it, etc
#3157 [19:27] <xales> if it doesn't work, it probably won't
#3158 [19:28] <mib_nugtr6> ...
#3159 [19:28] <mib_nugtr6> will there be any evidence of the download?
#3160 [19:28] <mib_nugtr6> this is not my comp
#3161 [19:28] <xales> what do you mean?
#3162 [19:28] <xales> oh
#3163 [19:28] <xales> not really
#3164 [19:28] <mib_nugtr6> not really?
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#3166 [19:29] <xales> I mean, if someone was really looking hard for it, it would be possible to find
#3167 [19:29] <xales> but it doesn't change anything, and is a system update
#3168 [19:29] <mib_nugtr6> well the owners of the comp dont :P
#3169 [19:29] <mib_nugtr6> ok then ill go to the link
#3170 [19:29] <mib_nugtr6> brb
#3171 [19:31] <mib_nugtr6> xales go to the link, i want to show you something
#3172 [19:31] <xales> ?
#3173 [19:32] <xales> Oh, sorry
#3174 [19:32] <xales> I gave you a bad link
#3175 [19:32] <xales> Go here
#3176 [19:32] <xales> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
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#3178 [19:32] <xales> For the first box, put "Desktop Graphics"
#3179 [19:32] <Lampshade> Guys?
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#3181 [19:32] <xales> in the second, Radeon X series
#3182 [19:33] <EchoDH> yeah lamp?
#3183 [19:33] <xales> In the third, you want Radeon X3xx series
#3184 [19:33] <Lampshade> Anyone know what's up with the servers?
#3185 [19:33] <xales> and in the last, you want "Windows XP - 32 bit"
#3186 [19:33] <xales> Lampshade: You don't need to come in here every time the servers aren't responding for you
#3187 [19:33] <Lampshade> Bahh,
#3188 [19:33] <xales> There is absolutely nothing that can be done about it
#3189 [19:33] <Lampshade> I know
#3190 [19:34] <Lampshade> I just like to know if someone else know what's happeining
#3191 [19:34] <Lampshade> Helps my sanity
#3192 [19:34] <mib_nugtr6> ok brb
#3193 [19:34] <xales> I'm sure at least one of the other 1.1 million people who have bought the game know
#3194 [19:34] <Lampshade> Like if someone can tell me what's happening
#3195 [19:35] <mib_nugtr6> now what?
#3196 [19:35] <Lampshade> Anyways, I do have a leginimate question this time
#3197 [19:35] <mbentley> the servers are on fire and the mojang staff are toasting marshmallows around said fire
#3198 [19:35] <xales> mib_nugtr6: Did you install it?
#3199 [19:35] <Roenie> is there any economy/currency mod that allows you to buy and sell blocks without having to type commands for it?
#3200 [19:35] <mbentley> (just a guess)
#3201 [19:36] <Lampshade> I can't see my skin on my profile
#3202 [19:36] <xales> Lampshade: We don't actually know, none of us are in any was affiliated with Mojang or have any more information than you do
#3203 [19:36] <xales> Lampshade: That is normal, that functionality is currently broken/disabled
#3204 [19:36] <mbentley> follow people on twitter, read blogs, etc
#3205 [19:36] <Lampshade> Ahh, ok
#3206 [19:36] <Lampshade> So when the server fully migrates, It'll be back?
#3207 [19:37] <xales> Yes
#3208 [19:37] <mbentley> Lampshade: if you want any info, follow the mojang staff on twitter. that is where i see most info
#3209 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> And I'm back
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#3211 [19:37] <xales> wb
#3212 [19:37] <xales> Hi Dial
#3213 [19:37] <Lampshade> Can you send me a link?
#3214 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - Was wrong port forward port, and server-ip filled out in server.properties
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#3216 [19:37] <xales> Lampshade: http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mojang
#3217 [19:38] <xales> list of them there
#3218 [19:38] <Lampshade> Thanks
#3219 [19:38] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: i was going to ask him about wrong stuff in server-ip but then my internet went screwy
#3220 [19:38] <Cial> hm?
#3221 [19:38] <Kealper> but yeah he said he wanted his server on port 50500 or something
#3222 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> His computer's ip was 1.50, he was port forwarding to 1.150, he was also using 50500 in server.properties, but port forwarding 25565
#3223 [19:39] <Kealper> u.u
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#3225 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Small tweaks, nothing major
#3226 [19:39] <zippity> Hello everyone
#3227 [19:39] <mbentley> hai
#3228 [19:39] <zippity> Got this one question about having thier own server running
#3229 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Shoot
#3230 [19:39] <zippity> A survival one
#3231 [19:40] <zippity> I wanna make mine so my bro and me can play
#3232 [19:40] <zippity> but just cant get him conencted
#3233 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> How is he connecting to you
#3234 [19:40] <Cial> what is the AB after Mojang?
#3235 [19:40] <zippity> on his computer... ?
#3236 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> zippity - Yes, with what IP?
#3237 [19:41] <mbentley> awesome, bitches
#3238 [19:41] <zippity> I guess the problem is with my router
#3239 [19:41] <zippity> not sure bout his ip
#3240 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> zippity - Is he in the same house?
#3241 [19:41] <zippity> nop
#3242 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
#3243 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to port forward
#3244 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how?
#3245 [19:41] <zippity> No sadly thats why I hoped to get someone kind enough to help me out here :P
#3246 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Well, we can either try to talk you through it, or you can let one of us remote in.
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#3249 [19:42] <zippity> what ever is easier for you seriously
#3250 [19:42] <zippity> I uninstalled everything
#3251 [19:42] <peoy> Hello. I cant seems to connect to my mincraft server at: 85.164.15.17:25565 can you other guys try to login ?
#3252 [19:42] <zippity> so i gotta re download everything tho
#3253 [19:42] <peoy> since I get java.net.socketexception connection reset
#3254 [19:43] <xales> !check 85.164.15.17
#3255 [19:43] <xales> peoy: It looks like its forwarded correctly
#3256 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> zippity - PM
#3257 [19:43] <mbentley> peoy: if you are running the server and client on the same machine, try to use 127.0.0.1
#3258 [19:43] <zelda> Hi, my game opens fine but on occasion it lags something aweful. Any suggestions?
#3259 [19:43] <peoy> yeah but I get java.net.socketexception connection reset
#3260 [19:43] <xales> zelda: Any mods?
#3261 [19:43] <zelda> Nope
#3262 [19:43] <peoy> mbentley: it is running on my firends computer.. and I cant seems to login
#3263 [19:44] <mbentley> use the local ip?
#3264 [19:44] <peoy> so I tought you other guys could try to connect
#3265 [19:44] <mbentley> ah
#3266 [19:44] <peoy> at 85.164.15.17:25565
#3267 [19:44] <xales> zelda: Off-hand, it is most likely that your computer just can't keep up, so steps to resolve this are
#3268 [19:44] <xales> disabling any antivirus/firewall applications, and closing all other applications when playing Minecraft
#3269 [19:44] <zelda> I bought the computer on Wednesday...
#3270 [19:45] <Cial> zelda,turn the graphical settings to fast in minecraft?
#3271 [19:45] <zelda> Is that in the options?
#3272 [19:45] <mbentley> peoy: i am not able to actually connect to his server
#3273 [19:45] <peoy> mbentley, can se you on the screen but standing there
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#3275 [19:46] <mbentley> stuck at 'logging in...'
#3276 [19:46] <Silver> hi, how do i make a dedicated server faster?
#3277 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Silver - Faster?
#3278 [19:46] <mbentley> put it on better hardware
#3279 [19:46] <xales> ^
#3280 [19:46] <peoy> yeah me too and then I get: java.net.socketexception connection reset
#3281 [19:46] <xales> There is no magic button to make it fast
#3282 [19:46] <mbentley> me too peoy
#3283 [19:46] <xales> peoy: It sounds like a problem on his end. Have him disable any firewall
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#3285 [19:46] <Silver> i have an i7 @ 2.6ghz and 6GB ram and 5 players
#3286 [19:47] <Silver> constantly lagging
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#3288 [19:47] <mbentley> could be your hard drive
#3289 [19:47] <r3FLeX> Some one wanna buy UNUSED Minecraft Gift Code for 13euro?
#3290 [19:47] <xales> Silver: Did you launch it using the EXE?
#3291 [19:47] <mbentley> or maybe your internet connection
#3292 [19:47] <Guest1390139254> yes
#3293 [19:47] * xales kicked r3FLeX from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: r3FLeX)
#3294 [19:47] <EchoDH> reflex alpha or beta?
#3295 [19:47] <peoy> xales: yeah he have disabled everything
#3296 [19:47] <xales> peoy: Would probably be more helpful if your friend came in then
#3297 [19:48] <xales> Guest1390139254: I assume this is on your personal computer?
#3298 [19:48] <Guest1390139254> it is on a raid 5 with 6 500gb sata hds
#3299 [19:48] <Guest1390139254> fake raid that is
#3300 [19:48] <xales> Is it on your personal computer/workstation computer?
#3301 [19:48] <peoy> hmm, this is a hard nut:p it must be the network card
#3302 [19:48] <mbentley> running the server and client on different machines tends to help
#3303 [19:49] <Guest1390139254> we are on a gigabit lan
#3304 [19:49] <xales> peoy: Is it an Atheros card, by any chance?
#3305 [19:49] <mbentley> if it is linux, put the world files on ramdisk
#3306 [19:49] <peoy> xales. gonna check
#3307 [19:49] <Guest1390139254> how do i change my name on the irc?
#3308 [19:49] <xales> /nick (newname)
#3309 [19:49] <EchoDH> "/nick blah
#3310 [19:49] <mbentley> /nick
#3311 [19:49] <mbentley> damn, i am slow
#3312 [19:49] <mbentley> lol
#3313 [19:49] <peoy> xales. jepp
#3314 [19:49] <silverhawk184> ok, thanks
#3315 [19:49] <xales> peoy: That is the issue then
#3316 [19:49] <xales> Atheros cards don't cooperate with Windows
#3317 [19:49] <peoy> xales, oh.. what can he do then?
#3318 [19:50] <peoy> oooh
#3319 [19:50] <xales> peoy: Run Linux or get a new network card
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#3321 [19:50] <peoy> hehehe =p
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#3323 [19:51] <peoy> xales: does it help to update the driver on that card ?
#3324 [19:51] <xales> peoy: I doubt it, but you might as well try
#3325 [19:51] <peoy> xales: oh, do you recommend anywhere we could buy a dedicated minecraft server in europa, close norway `?
#3326 [19:52] <peoy> any pages we can try to buy a server
#3327 [19:52] <xales> peoy: Unfortunately, no. Look at Multiplay maybe?
#3328 [19:52] <EchoDH> peoy you mean smp server?
#3329 [19:52] <peoy> smp ?
#3330 [19:53] <xales> Beta Multiplayer = SMP
#3331 [19:53] <peoy> is everything setup for you ?
#3332 [19:53] <peoy> so I dont need to do it manually
#3333 [19:53] <xales> Yes
#3334 [19:53] <peoy> oh
#3335 [19:53] <peoy> cool
#3336 [19:53] <peoy> where ?
#3337 [19:53] <EchoDH> You can look on the redstonewire server list by country
#3338 [19:53] <xales> There are a few things you can customize (mods and stuff) but that is it
#3339 [19:53] <peoy> kk thanks
#3340 [19:53] <xales> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=multiplay
#3341 [19:55] <silverhawk184> to reiterate, beta server 1.2.02 (latest), gigabit lan, 6 drives in fakeraid 5, i7 @ 2.6ghz, 6GB ddr3, win 7 pro x64, 6 users, all have render: tiny .... why does it run VERY slow?
#3342 [19:55] <xales> silverhawk184: Is it client lag, or server lag?
#3343 [19:55] <peoy> gonna check multiplayer thanks :p
#3344 [19:56] <silverhawk184> the clients can do stuff and then randomly teleport to a past event, i think server?
#3345 [19:56] <mbentley> silverhawk184: do you play the client on the same box?
#3346 [19:56] <silverhawk184> no
#3347 [19:56] <silverhawk184> and i have the latest jre installed
#3348 [19:57] <xales> what OS is the server running
#3349 [19:57] <silverhawk184> win 7 x64
#3350 [19:57] <xales> How did you launch the server? Using the .EXE?
#3351 [19:57] <silverhawk184> yes. minecraft_server.exe
#3352 [19:58] <xales> Open Task Manager, how much RAM is in use, and how much CPU is in use
#3353 [19:58] <xales> while the server is running
#3354 [19:58] <silverhawk184> 2gb used and 25% cpu
#3355 [19:58] <silverhawk184> with 5 clients running
#3356 [19:58] <xales> I'm fairly certain it is network lag then
#3357 [19:59] <xales> Or harddisk IO speed
#3358 [20:00] <silverhawk184> i am only using about 640kbps on the drive
#3359 [20:00] <mbentley> what sort of internet speeds ydo you have?
#3360 [20:01] <silverhawk184> it is a gigabit lan with <1ms ping to the server
#3361 [20:01] <mbentley> so these people are on the lan?
#3362 [20:01] <silverhawk184> yes
#3363 [20:01] <mbentley> interesting
#3364 [20:01] <xales> Can you benchmark the hard disk
#3365 [20:01] <xales> or try disabling RAID
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#3367 [20:09] <Lorax> Failed to save skin: org.jets3t.service.S3ServiceException: Request Error. PUT '/MinecraftSkins/Agrivane.png' on Host 's3.amazonaws.com' @ 'Mon, 31 Jan 2011 01:09:24 GMT' -- ResponseCode: 400, ResponseStatus: Bad Request
#3368 [20:09] <silverhawk184> 44.4 seq read; 20.5 sec write; 6.1 random
#3369 [20:12] <silverhawk184> and os hd is 53.4 seq read; 40.1 seq write; 3.9 random rw
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#3371 [20:16] <silverhawk184> anyone have any ideas?
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#3376 [20:24] <aetherian> heya
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#3379 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Lorax - You there?
#3380 [20:27] <zippity> ?
#3381 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> <Lorax> Failed to save skin: org.jets3t.service.S3ServiceException: Request Error. PUT '/MinecraftSkins/Agrivane.png' on Host 's3.amazonaws.com' @ 'Mon, 31 Jan 2011 01:09:24 GMT' -- ResponseCode: 400, ResponseStatus: Bad Request
#3382 [20:28] <aetherian> waugh
#3383 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Comes from using minecraftskins.com to upload directly
#3384 [20:28] <silverhawk184> hello?
#3385 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> You need to download the skin, and use minecraft.net's profile page to upload the skin.
#3386 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Hi
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#3388 [20:29] <aetherian> heh, that rule is either new, or isn't enforced
#3389 [20:29] <aetherian> just reading the aubot message
#3390 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> Which one?
#3391 [20:29] <aetherian> the "talk about piracy=instaban"
#3392 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Kealper and xales are usually good about that
#3393 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Faster than I am on the banhammer button
#3394 [20:30] <Kealper> having the alias /kb user ftw
#3395 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> I still have yet to dig through my old client scripts and migrate them over
#3396 [20:31] <Kealper> so me nad him just have to typ /kb then the first two letters, then tab, then enter lol
#3397 [20:31] <Kealper> killed that spekking...cold ftl
#3398 [20:31] <aetherian> spekking?
#3399 [20:31] <aetherian> /brb
#3400 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> I need to set up crickets with vop and !kick
#3401 [20:31] * Kealper goes to warm up his fingers
#3401 [20:32] <Kealper> aubot has a !kick command to all users on the mchelp whitelist
#3402 [20:32] <Kealper> it bans, kicks, waits 5 sec, then unbans
#3403 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Is AuBot vopped?
#3404 [20:32] <Kealper> uhh....normally it's just opped
#3405 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> er, drats
#3406 [20:32] <silverhawk184> is there an all users on the console?
#3407 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> all users?
#3408 [20:32] <Kealper> silverhawk184: type /list
#3409 [20:32] <Kealper> or
#3410 [20:32] <Kealper> if you are in the server console, just list
#3411 [20:33] <silverhawk184> like give *all 1 10
#3412 [20:33] <Kealper> oh
#3413 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Oh, no
#3414 [20:33] <Kealper> OH
#3415 [20:33] <Roenie> when a server is called "creative" , what does that really mean in terms of what's running on it?
#3416 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Roenie - They mean they're running the free classic version of minecraft
#3417 [20:33] <silverhawk184> ok, it would help. especially for "tp all user"
#3418 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Has all the blocks, no monsters, set level size that doesn't grow
#3419 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> No crafting.
#3420 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Only accessible through the browser client
#3421 [20:34] <Roenie> how do players obtain blocks in that?
#3422 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> They already have all the blocks available to them
#3423 [20:35] <Roenie> avaialble, where/how?
#3424 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> By uh, pressing B in the client
#3425 [20:35] <Roenie> i see
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#3427 [20:35] <Dave123413421> Hello?
#3428 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#3429 [20:36] <Dave123413421> Are you a help guru?
#3430 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps
#3431 [20:36] <Dave123413421> ^^
#3432 [20:36] <Dave123413421> Had an acc for a bit, on a new laptop, tried downloading it here but it refuses to connect so I can't get in
#3433 [20:36] <Roenie> ty GreyVulpine, looking to change my survival mode server to be a bit more creative like without removing all the challenge
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#3435 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Roenie - There's currently no way to change a beta survival server into a pure classic creative one.
#3436 [20:37] <Dave123413421> if anyone has any words of wisdom
#3437 [20:37] <Roenie> i know...
#3438 [20:37] <Roenie> that's not what i want anywho
#3439 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Roenie - You may want to look into modding the server.
#3440 [20:38] <Roenie> having everything available is overkill
#3441 [20:38] <Roenie> ye i already run a few
#3442 [20:38] <silverhawk184> if you are going to reply to me, wait, i am going to reset the routers
#3443 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> It'll provide you with more options. I know back then, hmod had /kits you can set up and give out to players.
#3444 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> but hmod is now replaced by #bukkit, and is uncomplete.
#3445 [20:38] <Roenie> bukkit is what i run
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#3447 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Try looking at essentials, and the /kit command
#3448 [20:39] <Roenie> have both ty
#3449 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Can set it up so players can /kit tools, and recieve all the tools..
#3450 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> or /kit blocks, and have whatever blocks you set them up to receive
#3451 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Dave123413421 - What error do you get?
#3452 [20:40] <Dave123413421> "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#3453 [20:40] <Dave123413421> something along those lines
#3454 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#3455 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Can you open up a command prompt, and ping minecraft.net for me?
#3456 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Let me know what IP it resolves to for you
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#3458 [20:41] <silverhawk184_> ok, im back,
#3459 [20:41] <Dave123413421> the request timed out
#3460 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> But what IP does it give you Dave123413421?
#3461 [20:42] <silverhawk184_> greyvampire, do you have any suggestions to my server issue?
#3462 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> silverhawk184 - Sorry, I haven't read up on your problem yet.
#3463 [20:42] <Dave123413421> 50.16.203.217
#3464 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that seems right...
#3465 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Dave123413421 - Can you connect to minecraft.net via your browser?
#3466 [20:42] <Dave123413421> I'm able to connect to the website fine, the launcher just doesn't seem to be able to
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#3468 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Hm
#3469 [20:43] <Dave123413421> I've tried it on both windows downloads with the same result
#3470 [20:43] <silverhawk184> do you want me to re-condense my problem?
#3471 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> silverhawk184 - Give me a few minutes here..
#3472 [20:44] <silverhawk184> ok, thanks
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#3474 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Dave123413421 - Are you able to play via the browser?
#3475 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Using the in-browser client
#3476 [20:45] <Dave123413421> I tried that a few minutes ago and it didn't load
#3477 [20:45] <Dave123413421> I'll check again quickly
#3478 [20:45] <Dave123413421> Nope, I'm not able to
#3479 [20:45] <Dave123413421> Java Plug-in 1.6.0_20
#3480 [20:45] <Dave123413421> Using JRE version 1.6.0_20-b02 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
#3481 [20:45] <Dave123413421> User home directory = C:\Users\Dave
#3482 [20:45] <Dave123413421> ----------------------------------------------------
#3483 [20:45] <Dave123413421> c: clear console window
#3484 [20:46] <Dave123413421> f: finalize objects on finalization queue
#3485 [20:46] <Dave123413421> g: garbage collect
#3486 [20:46] <Dave123413421> h: display this help message
#3487 [20:46] <Dave123413421> l: dump classloader list
#3488 [20:46] <Dave123413421> m: print memory usage
#3489 [20:46] <Dave123413421> o: trigger logging
#3490 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Gah
#3491 [20:46] <Dave123413421> q: hide console
#3492 [20:46] <Dave123413421> r: reload policy configuration
#3493 [20:46] <Dave123413421> s: dump system and deployment properties
#3494 [20:46] <Dave123413421> t: dump thread list
#3495 [20:46] <Kealper> oh gosh
#3496 [20:46] <Dave123413421> at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)
#3497 [20:46] <Dave123413421> at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.access$000(Unknown Source)
#3498 [20:46] <Dave123413421> at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
#3499 [20:46] <Dave123413421> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
#3500 [20:46] <Kealper> like seriously....
#3501 [20:46] <Kealper> tempted to kick you for that
#3502 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Dave123413421 - If you want to paste something like that, please use pastebin.com
#3503 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> It really floods the chat
#3504 [20:47] <Dave123413421> Yeah sorry - didn't realize it was such a large block of text
#3505 [20:48] <Lorax> GreyVulpine: cool, thanks.
#3506 [20:49] <pipeman> how do you change your skin back to default?
#3507 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> pipeman - Download the reference skin from the profile page, re-upload it
#3508 [20:50] <pipeman> ok, thanks
#3509 [20:50] <Lorax> although I can't seem to upload it with chrome
#3510 [20:50] <Lorax> crome
#3511 [20:50] <Lorax> whatever this is called
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#3513 [20:51] <aetherian> heh
#3514 [20:51] <Dave123413421> Don't suppose the block of text helped at all?
#3515 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> We muted the channel, didn't get it all
#3516 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Please paste it at pastebin.com and give us the URL
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#3518 [20:52] <Dave123413421> It was just the error message from the in browser version - do you need it?
#3519 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#3520 [20:53] <Dave123413421> http://pastebin.com/fqesdNt7
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#3522 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#3523 [20:55] <xales> GreyVulpine: Check minecraft.net IP maybe
#3524 [20:56] <xales> might be a bad instance or something
#3525 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> <Dave123413421> 50.16.203.217
#3526 [20:56] <xales> oh
#3527 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> resolves fine for me, and he can get it via the browser
#3528 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Just his client seems to have a problem
#3529 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> pastebin shows the same thing
#3530 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Caused by: java.io.IOException: open HTTP connection failed:http://www.minecraft.net/game/net/minecraft/Launcher.class
#3531 [20:57] <xales> Firewall?
#3532 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Something blocking java from connecting?
#3533 [20:57] <xales> Proxy maybe
#3534 [20:57] * GreyVulpine pokes Dave123413421
#3534 [20:58] <Dave123413421> I'll check the firewall
#3535 [20:58] <xales> Don't check, completely disable it first
#3536 [21:00] <Dave123413421> Tried with the firewall off - same result
#3537 [21:00] <xales> Just curious, it wasn't one of: Norton, Zonealarm, Comodo?
#3538 [21:00] <Dave123413421> Nope
#3539 [21:00] <xales> those tend to have some issues with being shut off
#3540 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> as well as mcafee
#3541 [21:01] <SkiingPenguins> yea so does Microsoft Security Essentials.. it doesnt like being shutdown and will turn back on
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#3543 [21:03] <xales> oh yeah, forgot about mcafee
#3544 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> silverhawk184 - You still there?
#3545 [21:05] <Dave123413421> Is there any chance of a solution being found for my problem?
#3546 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Dave123413421 - You're not using a proxy, correct?
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#3548 [21:06] <Dave123413421> Not as far as I'm aware
#3549 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Dave123413421 - windows?
#3550 [21:06] <Dave123413421> Yes
#3551 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Dave123413421 - Control panel -> internet options, under um
#3552 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Connections tab, "Lan Settings" button
#3553 [21:07] <Dave123413421> I'm set to automatically detect settings
#3554 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> proxy server is not checked, right?
#3555 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Okay
#3556 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Well, something is blocking java from making a connection to minecraft.net
#3557 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> I'd take a look around your security settings, maybe java's in the control panel
#3558 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> security software..?
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#3561 [21:08] <Dave123413421> symantec endpoint protection
#3562 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> I'm not familiar with that one Dave123413421.
#3563 [21:09] <PurpleKiwi> Anyone know how to make mods compatible with ModLoader?
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#3565 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> PurpleKiwi - This isn't the channel for that, try #risucraft
#3566 [21:09] <mib_ulybr5> Hey I need some help
#3567 [21:09] <PurpleKiwi> I tried that
#3568 [21:09] <PurpleKiwi> Kept kicking me out or something
#3569 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> brb in a few, grabbing foods.
#3570 [21:09] <PurpleKiwi> Owait
#3571 [21:09] <Dave123413421> Alright, thanks for trying
#3572 [21:09] <PurpleKiwi> Now it's working
#3573 [21:10] <mib_ulybr5> I'm attemping to grow trees and I don't know why they wont grow
#3574 [21:10] <Dave123413421> :D
#3575 [21:10] <mib_ulybr5> Can someone help me or not?
#3576 [21:11] <Dave123413421> I'm not part of the staff or anything, but I'm assuming you're in the wrong place
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#3578 [21:11] <xales> Miclee: With?
#3579 [21:11] <xales> err
#3580 [21:11] <xales> the mibbit left, sorry about the ping miccy
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#3582 [21:12] <Miclee> Waht?
#3583 [21:12] <Miclee> lol
#3584 [21:12] <xales> I meant to ping a mibbit
#3585 [21:12] <xales> but it pinged you instead
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#3587 [21:12] <xales> because mr Mibbitdefaultname left
#3588 [21:13] <Lorax> I can't seem to upload a skin directly from the minecraft profile page
#3589 [21:13] <xales> Do you get an error?
#3590 [21:13] <Lorax> no, it just blanks the field when I hit upload
#3591 [21:14] <xales> What browser are you using?
#3592 [21:14] <Lorax> firefox
#3593 [21:14] <xales> strange...
#3594 [21:14] <Lorax> didn't get the field at all in chrome
#3595 [21:14] <xales> what is your username?
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#3597 [21:14] <Lorax> Agrivane
#3598 [21:15] <xales> hmm, thats odd
#3599 [21:15] <xales> log out, log back in
#3600 [21:15] <Lorax> didn't change anything
#3601 [21:15] <Lorax> fresh browser too
#3602 [21:15] <xales> where are you trying to upload from?
#3603 [21:16] <xales> what folder on your computer
#3604 [21:16] <Lorax> it's a short path, no weird characters, f:/minecraft/mcskin.png
#3605 [21:17] <xales> maybe try ignoring the blankness of it and submitting anyway?
#3606 [21:17] <Lorax> yeah it doesn't help, the path is there after I browse, then when I click upload image it blanks it out
#3607 [21:18] <xales> Did you check if it worked? It may just not say anything
#3608 [21:18] <Lorax> yes
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#3612 [21:28] <mib_l52na0> hello
#3613 [21:28] <mib_l52na0> hello?
#3614 [21:28] <mib_l52na0> anhone here?
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#3616 [21:28] <Kealper> hmm?
#3617 [21:28] <mib_l52na0> yes
#3618 [21:28] <mib_l52na0> I need to find someone who can code in asp.
#3619 [21:28] <Kealper> this is not the channel for that
#3620 [21:29] <Kealper> you might have more luck asking in #minecraft or #mcchatter
#3621 [21:30] <Sqozza> Or #coders, even
#3622 [21:30] <mib_l52na0> oohh!
#3623 [21:30] <mib_l52na0> thankyou sir.
#3624 [21:30] <mib_l52na0> *salute*
#3625 [21:34] <aetherian> why do so many people come in leaving the name is mib >..
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#3627 [21:35] <Kealper> ask them
#3628 [21:35] <Kealper> it's spelled Tsunami :/
#3629 [21:36] <SinZ> Lorax: what OS
#3630 [21:36] <EchoDH> mib_blah is the default nick for mibbit
#3631 [21:37] <SinZ> EchoDH: it asks them for there nick
#3632 [21:37] <EchoDH> yep
#3633 [21:37] <SinZ> so its there stupidness that keeps the mibbit name
#3634 [21:37] <EchoDH> i cant put a nice spin on that :/
#3635 [21:37] <EchoDH> but yes
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#3639 [21:44] <Feronen> I'm trying to fix my new server to an IP, but when I change the IP value in the server.properties file, the server wigs out and says that the IP is already taken. How do I bind the server to my computer's IP?
#3640 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Leave server-ip blank
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#3642 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Connect as normal
#3643 [21:45] <Feronen> But how do I know what the server ID is?
#3644 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> www.whatismyip.com
#3645 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Or if you're connecting on the same computer, 127.0.0.1
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#3647 [21:50] <Feronen> Okay, so I'm connected to my own server, but WIMI's IP for me isn't working for my friend.
#3648 [21:51] <Feronen> It keeps saying that the connection timed out.
#3649 [21:51] <aetherian> it's probably not getting sent over the internet or something annoying like that.
#3650 [21:52] <aetherian> ports are forwarded and such, aye?
#3651 [21:52] <Feronen> 25565, right?
#3652 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Feronen - Then you didn't port forward, or a security program is blocking the connection
#3653 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> 25565/TCP, yes
#3654 [21:53] <Feronen> Well, it's allowed on my end.
#3655 [21:53] <aetherian> oh?
#3656 [21:54] <Feronen> Yeah, nothing's blocking it.
#3657 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> WIMI?
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#3662 [22:08] <SashaNeko> hello
#3663 [22:08] <AG_Elias> Hello!
#3664 [22:08] <SashaNeko> for some reason when im trying to log into minecraft right after entering my username and password and after the done loading all i get is a black screen
#3665 [22:08] <SashaNeko> happens when i play in browser or stand alone
#3666 [22:08] <SashaNeko> ideas?
#3667 [22:09] <SashaNeko> just started happenign
#3668 [22:09] <EchoDH> hunh...
#3669 [22:10] <SashaNeko> kind of sucks
#3670 [22:10] <SashaNeko> i really want to play
#3671 [22:10] <SashaNeko> had a really neat idea
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#3673 [22:12] <SashaNeko> is there an issue with minecraft.net
#3674 [22:12] <SashaNeko> i mean with the authintication
#3675 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3676 [22:12] <Cial> not for beta
#3677 [22:12] <Cial> that i am aware of
#3678 [22:12] <SashaNeko> yeah im playing beta
#3679 [22:12] <SashaNeko> and all i see is black after the done loading
#3680 [22:12] <Cial> do you have any game mods
#3681 [22:12] <SashaNeko> nope
#3682 [22:13] <SashaNeko> should i try deleting my .minecraft folder to see if that fixes it?
#3683 [22:13] <SashaNeko> i dont really play single player so it wouldnt be a huge loss
#3684 [22:13] <Cial> possibly
#3685 [22:14] <SashaNeko> nope still doesnt work
#3686 [22:14] <xales> What graphics card do you have?
#3687 [22:14] <xales> And, have you tried updating the drivers for it?
#3688 [22:14] <SashaNeko> it was working five minutes ago
#3689 [22:14] <SashaNeko> and has been working for weeks
#3690 [22:15] <xales> Double check the driver, it can't hurt
#3691 [22:16] <SashaNeko> nope no updates
#3692 [22:16] <xales> What model is the card?
#3693 [22:17] <SashaNeko> i highly doubt its a graphics card issue since it was working no less then five minutes ago
#3694 [22:17] <xales> No mods or anything, and you deleted the .minecraft directory?
#3695 [22:17] <SashaNeko> correct
#3696 [22:18] <xales> Did it redownload properly?
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#3698 [22:19] <SashaNeko> yes
#3699 [22:19] <xales> When does it go to the black sceen?
#3700 [22:20] <SashaNeko> after the done loading
#3701 [22:20] <SashaNeko> right after logging in
#3702 [22:20] <xales> Before the 'Mojang Specifications' screen?
#3703 [22:20] <xales> or after
#3704 [22:20] <SashaNeko> before
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#3706 [22:20] <xales> hmm
#3707 [22:20] <xales> ok
#3708 [22:20] <xales> download the 'for Linux' file
#3709 [22:20] <xales> !client
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#3711 [22:21] <xales> and save that on your desktop
#3712 [22:21] <xales> let me know once thats done
#3713 [22:21] <SashaNeko> done
#3714 [22:21] <xales> OK, open a command prompt(start->run->cmd)
#3715 [22:21] <SashaNeko> hmm
#3716 [22:22] <SashaNeko> do you realize im on linux
#3717 [22:22] <xales> oh, no, I just assumed you were on Windows
#3718 [22:22] <xales> heh, that will make it easier
#3719 [22:22] <xales> ok
#3720 [22:22] <SashaNeko> oh
#3721 [22:22] <SashaNeko> sorry thought i told you
#3722 [22:22] <xales> open Terminal/whatever
#3723 [22:22] <SashaNeko> okay
#3724 [22:22] <xales> and run 'java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -jar Desktop/minecraft.jar'
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#3728 [22:23] <SashaNeko> and it doesnt load
#3729 [22:24] <xales> any errors in the terminal window?
#3730 [22:24] <SashaNeko> yep
#3731 [22:24] <xales> http://pastebin.com/ it
#3732 [22:24] <horatio> ok, so... if i have a server running on my PC, and i close the server, the world is gone, isn't it? :(
#3733 [22:24] <SashaNeko> http://pastebin.com/Sacfz28f
#3734 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> horatio - No, unless you manually deleted the world folder
#3735 [22:25] <horatio> oh, awesome. thank you.
#3736 [22:26] <horatio> where is the world folder saved?
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#3738 [22:26] <xales> SashaNeko: What distro of Linux is it?
#3739 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> horatio - Same folder where you have the server
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#3741 [22:26] <Mathuin> Same folder where you first *ran* the server. :-P
#3742 [22:27] <Mathuin> Very important difference. :-)
#3743 [22:27] <Mathuin> Which bit me on the butt.
#3744 [22:27] <Mathuin> Not like I'm bitter.
#3745 [22:27] * xales wonders what is with all the people joining this channel and leaving 10 seconds later
#3745 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#3746 [22:27] <SashaNeko> xales: ubuntu
#3747 [22:27] <SashaNeko> and like i said it was working 10 minutes ago
#3748 [22:28] <SashaNeko> and has been working for week
#3749 [22:28] <AG_Elias> xales: We aren't helping them fast enough.
#3750 [22:28] <SashaNeko> weeks
#3751 [22:28] <AG_Elias> HELP FASTER!
#3752 [22:28] <xales> AG_Elias: Indeed!
#3753 [22:28] <Mathuin> I do wish you could scare up BagelMann or codewarrior.
#3754 [22:28] <xales> SashaNeko: It looks like it can't find GTK
#3755 [22:28] <Mathuin> Boy do I have questions for them both. :-P
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#3757 [22:28] <xales> SashaNeko: Which is...strange. Are you using 10.10?
#3758 [22:28] <xales> or 10.04?
#3759 [22:28] <SashaNeko> yes
#3760 [22:29] <SashaNeko> i always have been launching it by right clicking on the .jar file
#3761 [22:29] <xales> Netbook edition, by any chance?
#3762 [22:29] <xales> GreyVulpine: Any ideas why? Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: libgtkpeer: libgtkpeer.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#3763 [22:30] <xales> SashaNeko: Run these commands in Terminal
#3764 [22:30] <xales> sudo apt-get update
#3765 [22:30] <xales> sudo apt-get install libgcj7-awt
#3766 [22:31] <SashaNeko> i think i fixed it actually
#3767 [22:31] <SashaNeko> i did
#3768 [22:31] <SashaNeko> found it
#3769 [22:31] <SashaNeko> http://timashley.me/node/596
#3770 [22:31] <SashaNeko> the instructions here fixed it
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#3772 [22:32] <SashaNeko> java is the bane of my existance
#3773 [22:32] <shmup[vps]> http://gyazo.com/25ec3ecb212a413482077057c42c89d9.png
#3774 [22:33] <shmup[vps]> i have the newest ati drivers for this sapphire x1950
#3775 [22:33] <shmup[vps]> i see another guy crying about the same exact problem (same card), posted yesterday. no responses.
#3776 [22:33] <shmup[vps]> hoping to get one in here.
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#3778 [22:33] <xales> one sec
#3779 [22:34] <xales> what OS are you running?
#3780 [22:34] <shmup[vps]> win 7 64 bit
#3781 [22:34] <shmup[vps]> i dropped the newest 32bit java
#3782 [22:34] <shmup[vps]> to try out 64bit
#3783 [22:34] <shmup[vps]> same result
#3784 [22:35] <SashaNeko> so yeah all my stuff works now
#3785 [22:35] <SashaNeko> thanks for the help xales
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#3787 [22:35] <xales> SashaNeko: No problem, glad you got it working
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#3790 [22:36] <shmup[vps]> also, the screen tells you the version of java and operating system. just had to look. ^^
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#3792 [22:37] <xales> Oh, I didn't even think to look >.>
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#3794 [22:38] <xales> well, I know the issue
#3795 [22:38] <shmup[vps]> no worries. this isn't even for me. it's my gf's desktop. i'm puzzles that i can't figure it out.
#3796 [22:38] <shmup[vps]> btu the issue seems apparent
#3797 [22:38] <xales> that card isn't supported under Windows 7
#3798 [22:38] <shmup[vps]> from a bit of googling
#3799 [22:38] <cookw24> Is anyone having problems with force closes on snow leopard?
#3800 [22:38] <shmup[vps]> yet to find a [SOLUTION] problemnamehere thread
#3801 [22:38] <xales> cookw24: Don't think so
#3802 [22:39] <xales> shmup[vps]: There is no solution, it seems. The driver for the card isn't supported on Windows 7
#3803 [22:39] <cookw24> I can't get it to run any longer than about first sundown, after that, it closes "unexpectedly"
#3804 [22:40] <xales> cookw24: Does it give you an option to 'report it to Apple'?
#3805 [22:40] <xales> or any error report?
#3806 [22:40] <cookw24> Yepp, this time
#3807 [22:40] <xales> http://pastebin.com/ it
#3808 [22:41] <cookw24> alright, let me run it again
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#3811 [22:45] <cookw24> http://pastebin.com/8tJ6bpxM
#3812 [22:47] <xales> one sec
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#3814 [22:50] <xales> cookw24: only thing I can think of
#3815 [22:51] <cookw24> yeah?
#3816 [22:51] <xales> is that other applications are using up too much RAM, or possibly a hardware issue...
#3817 [22:51] <xales> maybe try deleting the bin folder
#3818 [22:51] <xales> open up Terminal
#3819 [22:51] <xales> run the command
#3820 [22:51] <xales> rm -rf ~/Library/Application\ Data/.minecraft/bin
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#3822 [22:52] <cookw24> done
#3823 [22:52] <xales> ok, try running Minecraft now
#3824 [22:52] <xales> it should re-download everything
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#3826 [22:56] <cookw24> so far so good
#3827 [23:01] <horatio> is there a way to make this fullscreen?
#3828 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> f111?
#3829 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> er
#3830 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> f11?
#3831 [23:02] <cookw24> okay, I think that did the trick, thanks xales!
#3832 [23:02] <Sqozza> f11
#3833 [23:02] <Sqozza> iirc
#3834 [23:02] <xales> 'this' = IRC?
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#3837 [23:13] <nnn> which is better, a green or gold disc??
#3838 [23:13] <nnn> or rather, which is rarer?
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#3840 [23:17] <Roy> ok, question it appears that my smp server both is and is not saving some chunks
#3841 [23:17] <Roy> I can login and logout, even have someone walk there and look on their machines and changes show up
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#3843 [23:18] <xales> What do you mean?
#3844 [23:18] <bouff> Sup guys, anyone know of a decent way to reset/modify my biomes from a pre-1.2 world?
#3845 [23:18] <Roy> but if I open the savefile with either minecraft overviewer or minecraft x-ray viewer, they are both missing the latest changes
#3846 [23:18] <Roy> by latest, I mean a day old backup
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#3848 [23:19] <xales> bouff: You mean a biome/terrain mod?
#3849 [23:19] <xales> Roy: Are you sure the server is actually saving?
#3850 [23:19] <Roy> I've tried explicitly calling the save-all command, but it didn't help
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#3852 [23:19] <Roy> the server restarts every night currently, so if it wern't saving I wouldn't see the changes the next day
#3853 [23:21] <xales> what OS?
#3854 [23:21] <Roy> linux
#3855 [23:21] <Roy> I'm invoking the actual server stop command from the console, so I believe it's shutting down cleanly
#3856 [23:22] <xales> re-set the permissions on the server folders
#3857 [23:22] <xales> (including world and whatever)
#3858 [23:22] <xales> make sure the user running the server has full read/write access to everything
#3859 [23:24] <Roy> spot checking, it all looks good but I'll give it a try
#3860 [23:31] <bouff> xales: Minecraft crashed one day and it spawned me in a new point in my existing world, and my biome grass shifted, so my forest now has plains grass, etc
#3861 [23:31] <bouff> this was during alpha
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#3863 [23:34] <xales> oh, I doubt there is any way to fix that
#3864 [23:34] <Anon> Hello. :3
#3865 [23:34] <xales> you could try to edit it manually or (possibly) automatically with MCedit
#3866 [23:34] <xales> Anon: hello
#3867 [23:34] <Anon> Could anyone help me to build a farm?
#3868 [23:34] <Anon> Preferably an animal farm.
#3869 [23:34] <xales> What do you mean?
#3870 [23:35] <Anon> To trap chickens and cows and sheep and whatever.
#3871 [23:35] <Guest1390139260> /usr An0n
#3872 [23:35] <xales> Oh...look on youtube, there are plenty of good examples
#3873 [23:35] <xales> also, its /nick
#3874 [23:35] <xales> /nick (newname)
#3875 [23:36] <An0n> Oh, rite.
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#3877 [23:36] <An0n> I've tried using a river to trap animals at one end, and using torches to attract them.
#3878 [23:36] <An0n> And to avoid mob spawning.
#3879 [23:36] <An0n> But the animals seem to disappear overnight.
#3880 [23:36] <An0n> Any solutions?
#3881 [23:36] <An0n> Or is it despawn?
#3882 [23:36] <xales> Yeah, they tend to despawn, nothing to do except be near to them
#3883 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> Any chunks that aren't near you, aren't laded
#3884 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> loaded even
#3885 [23:38] <An0n> So should I kill the animals and grab their feathers and things before the night comes, and then hide in my shelter during the night?
#3886 [23:38] <An0n> And then throw eggs again in the morning?
#3887 [23:38] <xales> Yes
#3888 [23:38] <xales> You could make something that kills them automatically, but you still need to be near it for it to operate
#3889 [23:38] <An0n> Also, I've heard that you can get animals to spawn underground by planting grass underground, and placing torches for light?
#3890 [23:39] <xales> Yup
#3891 [23:39] <xales> They spawn on any grass that is lighted up enough
#3892 [23:39] <An0n> How exactly do I get grass?
#3893 [23:39] <An0n> Dig it up with a pickaxe?
#3894 [23:39] <An0n> I seem to only get dirt.
#3895 [23:39] <xales> You have to connect dirt to another block with grass on it
#3896 [23:39] <xales> Grass spreads to any dirt block touching it
#3897 [23:39] <An0n> So how would I get grass underground?
#3898 [23:40] <xales> You would have to make a line of dirt from the surface to the place underground
#3899 [23:40] <xales> but not straight up and down, more like a staircase
#3900 [23:40] <xolotl> And then? You wait. Oh god, the waiting.
#3901 [23:41] <Roy> thank you for the advice xales
#3902 [23:47] <Roy> oh, and I checked xales
#3903 [23:47] <Roy> every file was already owned by the user running the server
#3904 [23:47] <Roy> sudo find . -not -user minecraft
#3905 [23:48] <xales> are you running any mods/wrapper?
#3906 [23:48] <Roy> nope, vanilla server
#3907 [23:48] <Roy> latest version
#3908 [23:49] <Roy> I can see that the modified timestamps on some of the folders are from today
#3909 [23:49] <xales> are any not recent?
#3910 [23:49] <Roy> but I don't know how to resolve a world XYZ to a specific chunk on disk
#3911 [23:50] <xales> I'm not sure if there is an easy way to do that =\
#3912 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> There is, but it requires base 32? math
#3913 [23:50] <Roy> there are plenty of files that don't have the same timestamp
#3914 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, base 36 math
#3915 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Alpha_Level_Format
#3916 [23:51] <xales> GreyVulpine: Does the server save all chunks when it saves, or only loaded ones?
#3917 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Um, I don't know
#3918 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Haven't played with save-off
#3919 [23:53] <Roy> Our server has saving turned on
#3920 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Then it saves automatically
#3921 [23:55] <Roy> yes, I do a save-all from the console just before issuing the stop command to be safe (maybe useless, but I sleep better)
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#3923 [23:57] <xales> Roy: But some chunks aren't saving?
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#3925 [23:58] <Roy> I'm working through the math to find the file on disk to check the timestamp
#3926 [23:58] <Roy> atm
#3927 [23:58] <xales> ok
#3928 [23:58] <Roy> I've had two different applications indicate that chunks wern't saving
#3929 [23:58] <Roy> but the server and clients seem to be fine
#3930 [23:59] <Roy> it's rather odd