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#3 [00:03] <xales> Raikuron: Really going to ban evade?
#4 [00:03] <Raikuron> What?
#5 [00:03] <Raikuron> I did not do it on purpose.
#6 [00:03] <Raikuron> I have a dynamic I.P.
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#8 [00:03] <xales> ...
#9 [00:03] <Raikuron> I was checking if it expired.
#10 [00:04] <xales> not an excuse
#11 [00:04] <xales> it hasn't
#12 [00:04] <Raikuron> ...
#13 [00:04] <Raikuron> Well, tell me how long to stay off, and I will.
#14 [00:04] <xales> If you feel you can actually listen to ops, you can stay now
#15 [00:04] <Raikuron> There's absolutely nothing I can do in this situation.
#16 [00:04] <xales> but if you get banned again, don't come back
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#18 [00:05] <Raikuron> Heh. Lighten up, man.
#19 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Raikuron - Why are you here?
#20 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Is it just to laugh at others, or do you actually need help?
#21 [00:05] <Raikuron> Dynamic I.P.
#22 [00:06] <Raikuron> And I'm actually here because I was checking if my ban expired.
#23 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't answer my question at all.
#24 [00:06] <Raikuron> It was neither, then.
#25 [00:07] <Raikuron> If you have any other questions I am willing to answer, I will answer them to the best of my ability.
#26 [00:07] <xales> I think he expects an answer to that question
#27 [00:08] <Raikuron> I already gave him one. Neither.
#28 [00:08] <xales> 00:05:45 <@GreyVulpine> Raikuron - Why are you here?
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#30 [00:08] <xales> Answer question.
#31 [00:08] <Raikuron> Oh. I am here to check if my ban expired.
#32 [00:08] <xales> That isn't what he means
#33 [00:08] <Raikuron> Well, then clarifu.
#34 [00:08] <Raikuron> Well, then clarify.
#35 [00:09] <xales> Why did you join the channel in the first place? What is the purpose of actually being in here.
#36 [00:09] <Raikuron> In the first place? ...I forgot...
#37 [00:09] <Raikuron> And that period should be a question mark.
#38 [00:09] <xales> What I mean is, why do you come here? And no, it actually wouldn't be
#39 [00:10] <xales> All you seem to do is make fun of people for not knowing things
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#41 [00:10] <xales> ...
#42 [00:11] <Raikuron> You may have a point there. But I have asked a few questions and answered one. Even though it was subsequently ignored.
#43 [00:11] <Raikuron> Dude, I have other windows open. Of course there are going to be delays.
#44 [00:11] <xXR34C71V3Xx> hello
#45 [00:11] <xales> hello
#46 [00:12] <Raikuron> Hello, random person! In this world of awesome, what assistance do you require?
#47 [00:12] <Berly> Anyone know of a good map editor for beta maps?
#48 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> MCedit
#49 [00:12] <xXR34C71V3Xx> i was in the main room and when i tried to registter to talk it said: /msg insufficient parameters.help please?
#50 [00:12] <Mathuin> I wish I could get my brain around mcedit.
#51 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#52 [00:12] <Mathuin> xXR34C71V3Xx: have you registered with nickserv ?
#53 [00:12] <Roy> hmm.... the chunk in question does have a modified timestamp of yesterday xales
#54 [00:13] <Roy> wait, doh
#55 [00:13] <xXR34C71V3Xx> yeah i said /msg nickserv
#56 [00:13] <Roy> I used the chunk xz, not world xz
#57 [00:13] <xales> xXR34C71V3Xx: The command you have to run is '/msg nickserv register password email'
#58 [00:13] <xales> not just '/msg nickserv'
#59 [00:14] <Raikuron> Beat me to it.
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#61 [00:14] <xXR34C71V3Xx> oh ok can i do that in this room?
#62 [00:14] <xales> Yes, it doesn't matter where you are
#63 [00:14] <Raikuron> You can do it anywhere in the server.
#64 [00:15] <Mathuin> The message will go to the bot, regardless of what channel you are in when you type the command.
#65 [00:15] <xXR34C71V3Xx> sorry if i seem stupid im kind of new to irc
#66 [00:15] <Mathuin> Everyone was new once. Don't worry.
#67 [00:17] <An0n> Ohai.
#68 [00:17] <An0n> I liek to make you waitz.
#69 [00:17] <An0n> Now, where were we?
#70 [00:17] <An0n> Ahh, yes.
#71 [00:18] <Raikuron> Waiting for him to say something?
#72 [00:18] <An0n> Can I put grass in my inventory then plant it underground?
#73 [00:18] <AG_Elias> Yes.
#74 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Not naturally
#75 [00:18] <Raikuron> No.
#76 [00:18] <xales> An0n: If you use an inventory editor
#77 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to give yourself the grass block
#78 [00:18] <Raikuron> Get dirt and a hoe. Put it there. Till it.
#79 [00:18] <Raikuron> Of course, it'll require light.
#80 [00:18] <An0n> How do I till again?
#81 [00:18] <An0n> I've never farmed.
#82 [00:18] <Raikuron> Will torch light suffice?
#83 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Tilling won't give grass
#84 [00:18] <xales> Right-click it with a hoe
#85 [00:18] <Raikuron> Craft a hoe. Right click.
#86 [00:18] <xales> but it won't give grass
#87 [00:18] <Raikuron> Oh, right.
#88 [00:18] <Mathuin> Doesn't grass come from dirt in sunlight?
#89 [00:18] <xales> grass still has to spread
#90 [00:18] <Mathuin> It's in the wiki.
#91 [00:18] <Raikuron> Yeah, forgot.
#92 [00:18] * GreyVulpine nods
#92 [00:19] <Mathuin> That's where I look for this stuff when I don't ask here. :-)
#93 [00:19] <xXR34C71V3Xx> yay im now registered!
#94 [00:19] <Raikuron> Good for you.
#95 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> You can give yourself grass with an inventory editor in SP, or with the /give command in SMP
#96 [00:19] <Roy> xales, the real chunk on disk has a modified timestamp equal to after changes have been made
#97 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> But there's no way to dig up grass into your inventory naturally
#98 [00:19] <xales> Roy: But it doesn't save anything that has changed in the chunk?
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#100 [00:20] <Roy> two separate tools disagree with the server on the chunk contents
#101 [00:21] <xales> Does the problem exist on a new world? Or just that one
#102 [00:21] <Roy> well, I know it's not server wide because other chunks are being updated
#103 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried just deleting the chunk altogether?
#104 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Either with the file, or through a map editor?
#105 [00:21] <xXR34C71V3Xx> whats the biggest things you guys have ever built in minecraft?
#106 [00:22] <Sqozza> A scale model of my dong.
#107 [00:22] <Roy> I havn't, because I tend to think of that as a last resort
#108 [00:22] <Sqozza> It went well with the phallus palace.
#109 [00:22] <xXR34C71V3Xx> hahaha
#110 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> I started building the first few measures of One Winged Angel in music blocks
#111 [00:22] <Sqozza> Happy now, xales?
#112 [00:22] <Sqozza> >.>
#113 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Then realized how crappy it sounded
#114 [00:22] <Raikuron> Xales is never happy.
#115 [00:22] <xales> Sqozza: ?
#116 [00:22] <Sqozza> I referenced the running gag.
#117 [00:22] <Sqozza> Which is your fault, more or less.
#118 [00:22] <Sqozza> >.>
#119 [00:22] <xales> Oh, I wasn't paying attention
#120 [00:23] <Roy> if that's what I need to do, it can be done
#121 [00:23] * Mathuin missed the running phalluseses.
#121 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> back up your save, delete the offending chunk, see if it saves afterwards?
#122 [00:23] <Roy> I'll just schedule some downtime for it
#123 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Might just be a really weird form of chunk corruption?
#124 [00:24] <Roy> yeah, that's what I was thinking
#125 [00:25] <xXR34C71V3Xx> yuppp
#126 [00:26] <xXR34C71V3Xx> whats the address 4 the main chabbel?
#127 [00:27] <xales> #minecraft
#128 [00:27] <xXR34C71V3Xx> thanks bye bye
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#131 [00:38] <newb9> is it possible to connect to your server on your own machine?
#132 [00:39] <Coll> yes
#133 [00:39] <Coll> localhost
#134 [00:39] <newb9> i tried my ip and login failed, any ideas?
#135 [00:39] <Sqozza> Coll has it right.
#136 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> What's the error you get?
#137 [00:39] <xales> What is your username?
#138 [00:39] <Sqozza> Just type in localhost
#139 [00:39] <xales> GreyVulpine: Login failed
#140 [00:39] <xales> :P
#141 [00:39] <newb9> brb
#142 [00:39] <xales> lol brb...
#143 [00:40] <newb9> "bad login"
#144 [00:40] <xales> What is your username?
#145 [00:40] <xales> for Minecraft
#146 [00:41] <newb9> is that my login?
#147 [00:41] <xales> No. What username do you log into Minecraft with
#148 [00:41] <newb9> "oxbloodboots"
#149 [00:41] <xales> Well, there is the problem
#150 [00:41] <xales> you are using a pirated version.
#151 [00:41] <xales> You need to buy the game to play it.
#152 [00:42] <newb9> ...oh
#153 [00:42] <xales> It isn't free
#154 [00:42] <newb9> i dl'd from the site. didn't mean to pirate. so muli requires full?
#155 [00:43] <xales> No, the game isn't free
#156 [00:43] <xales> you clearly didn't download it from Minecraft.net
#157 [00:43] <xales> You have to buy the game to play it at all.
#158 [00:43] <newb9> i thought in beta it was free
#159 [00:44] <xales> No, it isn't
#160 [00:44] <xales> And you have to intentionally download a pirated version to play it without buying it, so you clearly did
#161 [00:44] <xolotl> The only thing that's free is Classic, which I think might be kind of broken right now
#162 [00:44] <newb9> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#163 [00:45] <newb9> i feel a little insulted
#164 [00:45] <xales> You can download it, but you need a valid account to log in
#165 [00:45] <xales> you do not
#166 [00:45] <xales> pirated copies change your system like a virus, so that it doesn't verify your account
#167 [00:45] <newb9> http://www.minecraft.net/register.jsp
#168 [00:45] <xales> That creates an account, but it isn't a premium account
#169 [00:45] <newb9> dude, i honestly didn't pirate
#170 [00:46] <xales> you need a premium account to log in
#171 [00:46] <Sqozza> I had a pirated copy of indev of my laptop.
#172 [00:46] <xales> and you did.
#173 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> newb9 - are you able to play single player/
#174 [00:46] <Sqozza> But I'm allowed, cause I've paid for alpha/beta
#175 [00:46] <newb9> yes
#176 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> Then yes, you are using a pirated version
#177 [00:46] <newb9> am i not supposed to?
#178 [00:46] <xales> The game isn't free
#179 [00:46] <xales> so yes
#180 [00:46] <xales> you didn't buy it, you don't have a premium account, you shouldn't be playing it
#181 [00:46] <newb9> ok, my mistake
#182 [00:46] <xales> It isn't exactly hard to miss that
#183 [00:46] <AndrewPH> >mistake
#184 [00:47] <AndrewPH> I fail to see how following a guide to pirate it is an accident
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#186 [00:48] <newb9> i came hear looking for help, I dl'd through the legit site, opened(in my mind) a legit account and you guys keep shouting pirate. I will buy the full, but you guys need to cut some slack
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#188 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> newb9 - Two things wrong with that, even if you did download through the site, you didn't pay for a premium account, your client wouldn't have let you in without a valid premium status. And you wouldn't have gotten the single player files.
#189 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> I guess that's three.
#190 [00:49] <newb9> so the only options are that i am lying or have lost my mind then?
#191 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Unless you can prove otherwise.
#192 [00:50] <xales> I know!
#193 [00:50] <newb9> um, thanks for all the help. real nice community.
#194 [00:50] <xales> paste your hosts file on pastebin.com
#195 [00:51] <xales> lol
#196 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#197 [00:51] <on0bi> that guy was stupid
#198 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> We get all kinds
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#200 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Everybody from the pirate, to the wannabe *nix gurus, to the entitlement bastards....
#201 [00:52] <cyphase> lol, speaking of pirating.. i just started minecraft and the message is "Information wants to be free!"
#202 [00:53] <on0bi> lol
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#208 [01:05] <aetherian> lively chan
#209 [01:05] <aetherian> nel
#210 [01:13] * aetherian hums
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#216 [01:19] <MrDodo> 3aa9:687d::3aa9:687d PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :are skins gonna be up soon?
#217 [01:20] <KillSpammer> Ask mollstam if he gever get ons
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#219 [01:20] <on0bi> they are
#220 [01:21] <on0bi> i uploaded a skin yesterday
#221 [01:21] <xales> Skins should be working fine
#222 [01:21] <on0bi> it currently works, but you can't send a link to a friend to see it
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#228 [01:31] * GreyVulpine is thinking of adding an anti-flood script to greybot.. hmm.
#228 [01:31] <xales> might as well
#229 [01:31] <EmpiresBane> have we had any flooding recently?
#230 [01:31] <xales> yes
#231 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> people forgetting to use pastebin?
#232 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#233 [01:31] <xales> >forgetting
#234 [01:32] <EmpiresBane> =)
#235 [01:32] <xales> I liked that
#236 [01:32] <xales> newb9 guy
#237 [01:32] <xales> hehe
#238 [01:32] <EmpiresBane> Crowbar discography finished d/l
#239 [01:33] <xales> 00:46:24 <@GreyVulpine> Then yes, you are using a pirated version
#240 [01:33] <xales> 00:46:28 < newb9> am i not supposed to?
#241 [01:33] <xales> ._.
#242 [01:33] <cyphase> aah, how do the ghasts know where i am underground?
#243 [01:33] <cyphase> oops, wrong channel
#244 [01:33] <cyphase> lol
#245 [01:34] <netherian> lolxales
#246 [01:39] * netherian is away: FEAR... the
#246 [01:39] <EmpiresBane> fffffffff
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#248 [01:40] <EmpiresBane> 91% from finishing the Throwdown download and all the peers disappear...
#249 [01:40] <xales> ._.
#250 [01:41] <SwampyPlague> this just sux i got kicked
#251 [01:41] <SwampyPlague> by xales
#252 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> #MineCraftHelp cannot help you with that, unfortunately.
#253 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to sacrifice 20 pigs, and 55 ducks to appease xales
#254 [01:42] <xales> And a wall of creepers
#255 [01:42] <xales> Make a wall of interlaced creepers
#256 [01:42] <EmpiresBane> is a wall imperial or metric?
#257 [01:42] <xales> then destroy it :>
#258 [01:43] <SwampyPlague> idk what u guys are talking about creepers
#259 [01:43] <xales> EmpiresBane: It is in the measurement system that some people call 'xales'
#260 [01:43] <xales> :>
#261 [01:43] <EmpiresBane> grah!!!!
#262 [01:43] <EmpiresBane> so close!
#263 [01:43] <EmpiresBane> there's one peer
#264 [01:43] <EmpiresBane> and he has the entire thing
#265 [01:44] <EmpiresBane> but it won't download from him
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#267 [01:44] <xales> I hate when it does that ._.
#268 [01:45] <LanceATX> Hello! I come with an inquiry of assistance.
#269 [01:46] <EmpiresBane> well ask...
#270 [01:47] <EmpiresBane> -AuBot- Welcome to #MineCraftHelp! Don't ask to ask, just ask!
#271 [01:47] <MrDodo> 3aa9:687d::3aa9:687d PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Ask to ask to ask.
#272 [01:47] <LanceATX> Okay, so I'm attempting to start a Minecraft server and when I log into my own server (localhost), I get booted out and the log reads:
#273 [01:47] <LanceATX> [INFO] Earmouse [/127.0.0.1:54356] logged in with entity id 85
#274 [01:47] <LanceATX> [INFO] Earmouse lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#275 [01:47] <LanceATX> [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#276 [01:48] <LanceATX> I wager this is probably an easy fix but I don't know where to start. >_>
#277 [01:48] <xales> What error does the client see?
#278 [01:49] <LanceATX> One sec
#279 [01:50] <LanceATX> Internal exception: java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 2
#280 [01:51] <xales> Is the NIC in your computer an Atheros by any chance?
#281 [01:51] <MrDodo> 3aa9:687d::3aa9:687d PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :does the skin show up in beta?
#282 [01:51] <LanceATX> I don't know. How would I check?
#283 [01:51] <xales> LanceATX: Device Manager
#284 [01:52] <LanceATX> Nope. It's a Cisco
#285 [01:53] <xales> Cisco doesn't make NICs, AFAIK
#286 [01:53] <xales> Look in Device Manager, under Network Adapters
#287 [01:53] <LanceATX> Whoops. Wrong line. Realtek
#288 [01:54] <xales> Are you using an up-to-date version of the server?
#289 [01:54] <LanceATX> I think so. I downloaded the minecraft server exe from the website just yesterday. Unless it needs to further update, it should be good
#290 [01:55] <xales> Firewall?
#291 [01:55] <LanceATX> I'll disable it and try again
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#293 [01:58] <LanceATX> I get similar errors. This last time it said byte 19
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#295 [01:58] <Raitoningu> Is there a way to disable clouds in SP?
#296 [01:58] <LanceATX> The time before that it said byte 224
#297 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes, you can remove the cloud texture from minecraft.jar
#298 [01:58] <xales> LanceATX: I think that is likely an issue with the NIC then, but I'm not sure
#299 [01:58] * xales pokes GreyVulpine
#299 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#300 [01:59] <LanceATX> Hmm. Any ideas on where I should look into it more or would it be a matter of replacing the part entirely?
#301 [01:59] <xales> GreyVulpine: LanceATX is getting the malformed input stuff, RealTek NIC
#302 [01:59] <xales> LanceATX: Probably require replacing it/adding it (they are frequently built-in to motherboards)
#303 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> oh hmm
#304 [01:59] <xales> But that may not be the problem
#305 [01:59] <LanceATX> Nuts. Hmm
#306 [02:00] <Raitoningu> GreyVulpine: Where abouts in the jar file is the cloud texture?
#307 [02:00] <Raitoningu> never mind.
#308 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> LanceATX - Have you tried deleting and reinstalling your minecraft client?
#309 [02:03] <Raitoningu> Grey, would taking out the texture be the .png file?
#310 [02:03] <LanceATX> I didn't think of that. I can try that now
#311 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Yes Raitoningu
#312 [02:04] <Raitoningu> Hm i did that, but i got an error
#313 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> error?
#314 [02:04] <Raitoningu> yeah, one sec
#315 [02:05] <Raitoningu> Greyvulpine: http://pastebin.com/BzxZtPgS
#316 [02:07] <LanceATX> Alrighty, I tried reinstalling the client and I have the same error, GreyVulpine.
#317 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Raitoningu - input == null errors are usually caused by a ! in the windows username
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#319 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Unless I'm totally misreading that error log, which could be
#320 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft worked before this, right?
#321 [02:08] <Raitoningu> yeah, all i gotta do is put back in the .png file
#322 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Raitoningu - Got an image editor?
#323 [02:09] <Raitoningu> just paint. xD
#324 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Open up the .png and erase it.
#325 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Can't remember if it required transperency
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#327 [02:10] <KillSpammer> :O hey GreyVulpine haven't seen you in like... a day
#328 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Actually, yeah, open the clouds.png in paint, select all, delete.
#329 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> LanceATX - Then um.. what OS are you on?
#330 [02:11] <LanceATX> Windows 7!
#331 [02:12] <Raitoningu> ha, alright i did that, now it's like one giant transparent cloud across the entire sky.
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#333 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, I believe we've been getting reports of some windows 7 users getting that error, I don't know what, if any, the solution is
#334 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Well, blarg Raitoningu, I thought the clouds were easy to get rid of, at least they were back then
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#336 [02:13] <Raitoningu> yeah, on fast graphics there's nothing, but fancy it's just a giant cloud, xD ill figure something out
#337 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Raitoningu - Did you color it white, or erase it
#338 [02:13] <Raitoningu> Erase
#339 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> erasing should've done it..
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#342 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Bah, even minecraft forum posts agree with me
#343 [02:16] <MrDodo> o.O i cant connect?
#344 [02:16] <LanceATX> That's a bummer. :| Alrighty, thanks for looking into it, GreyVulpine & xales. :)
#345 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Sorry LanceATX.
#346 [02:18] <Mathuin> HAHAHAHA
#347 [02:18] <MrDodo> gah need help
#348 [02:18] <Mathuin> I just put a piece of birch in the woodstove, and all I could think was "I'm so glad I didn't have to punch this".
#349 [02:18] <xales> MrDodo: With?
#350 [02:19] <xales> GreyVulpine: http://www.superliminal.com/cube/applet.html
#351 [02:20] <xales> 4D rubiks cube
#352 [02:20] <MrDodo> my error
#353 [02:20] <MrDodo> Connection Lost
#354 [02:20] <MrDodo> Internal exception: java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 3
#355 [02:20] <xales> MrDodo: Is the server up to date?
#356 [02:20] <MrDodo> i dont want to be malformed D:
#357 [02:20] <MrDodo> server?
#358 [02:20] <xales> Is this with a server you are trying to run, or are you trying to connect to another server
#359 [02:20] <MrDodo> another
#360 [02:21] <xales> Try connecting to greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#361 [02:21] <MrDodo> i tried 3 already
#362 [02:21] <MrDodo> ok..
#363 [02:22] <MrDodo> hmm well that works..
#364 [02:22] <xales> The servers you are trying to connect to aren't up to date then
#365 [02:22] <MrDodo> dang..
#366 [02:23] <MrDodo> ok well thanks :D
#367 [02:23] <xales> No problem
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#369 [02:24] <Raitoningu> Approximatly how big are maps?
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#371 [02:24] <MrDodo> gah i cant join any.. :s
#372 [02:24] <xales> Raitoningu: In Classic, or bet?
#373 [02:24] <xales> beta*
#374 [02:24] <Raitoningu> Beta.
#375 [02:25] <MrDodo> does that mean that like 5 servers are not up to date?
#376 [02:25] <xales> Raitoningu: The size of the map increases as you explore the world
#377 [02:25] <xales> MrDodo: It means the specific server you are trying to play on is not up to date
#378 [02:25] <Raitoningu> So it pretty much never ends?
#379 [02:25] <MrDodo> peh..
#380 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Raitoningu - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Alpha_Level_Format
#381 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> "Terrain generated in infdev has the potential to be almost 235 petabytes, which is 240,640 terabytes, in size when stored in memory"
#382 [02:26] <xales> GreyVulpine: Looking back, I don't think he meant filesize, looking back
#383 [02:26] <xales> though I did the first time I read it
#384 [02:26] * GreyVulpine nods
#384 [02:26] <Raitoningu> Question answered and holy sh--.
#385 [02:29] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, I'm suprised notch doesn't mention you more.
#386 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> ?
#387 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Notch doesn't know me, nor should he.
#388 [02:33] <KillSpammer> I wonder how much profit you have gained him from helping people?
#389 [02:34] * GreyVulpine shrugs.
#389 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> That really doesn't concern me at all.
#390 [02:34] <KillSpammer> Why do you help here holy shit EmpiresBane is a op here?
#391 [02:34] <KillSpammer> New op?
#392 [02:34] <KillSpammer> Or somethin
#393 [02:34] <KillSpammer> Or changed name
#394 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> EmpiresBane's been here since before I joined
#395 [02:35] <EmpiresBane> what?
#396 [02:35] <EmpiresBane> oh yeah
#397 [02:35] <KillSpammer> That means - I have never talked nor seen him before today.
#398 [02:35] <EmpiresBane> i was the 3rd op
#399 [02:35] <EmpiresBane> i stopped using IRC for awhile
#400 [02:35] <KillSpammer> Oh...
#401 [02:35] <EmpiresBane> then my gf broke up with me
#402 [02:36] <KillSpammer> So you left when you got her?
#403 [02:36] <EmpiresBane> the reason i'm on the computer is because i have nothing better to do
#404 [02:37] <KillSpammer> You could be on steam gifting me games?
#405 [02:37] <EmpiresBane> hah
#406 [02:37] <EmpiresBane> i'm in debt
#407 [02:37] <EmpiresBane> i can't even get games for myself
#408 [02:38] <KillSpammer> So GreyVulpine why do you help peoples
#409 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> Meh, keep skills sharp, it's kinda what I did in my last job as well.
#410 [02:39] <KillSpammer> I halp people for uhh...
#411 [02:39] <KillSpammer> Bcuz your my master.
#412 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> This isn't all I do, I've got other screens pulled up to different things while I IRC.
#413 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> I also help manage another small IRC network on the side, have been doing so for a number of years... what's another couple of additional channels open
#414 [02:42] <KillSpammer> Hrmm...
#415 [02:42] <KillSpammer> Maybe i should stalk you
#416 [02:42] <KillSpammer> ...
#417 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> I'd rather you didn't.
#418 [02:42] <Raitoningu> Anyone good with Mcedit?
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#420 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help do you need with MCedit?
#421 [02:42] <KillSpammer> :(
#422 [02:42] <KillSpammer> Noone wants me to stalk them
#423 [02:43] <KillSpammer> Jeb and Notch have become boring stalkers
#424 [02:43] <Raitoningu> Alot? i have no clue, when i import my world, there's nothing.
#425 [02:43] <KillSpammer> Stalkees*
#426 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> "Nothing"?
#427 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> Did you already load the world in your client?
#428 [02:43] <KillSpammer> ^
#429 [02:43] <Raitoningu> I have to have my client running?
#430 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> MCedit doesn't generate terrain, it only lets you modify terrain that's already been generated
#431 [02:44] <KillSpammer> So what irc network do you manage?
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#433 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#434 [02:44] <KillSpammer> :P
#435 [02:44] <xales> GreyVulpine: What other network are you on?
#436 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> You too?
#437 [02:45] <xales> I'm just curious
#438 [02:45] <KillSpammer> Also me :P
#439 [02:45] <xales> I'm assuming its a specific-topic network
#440 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> starfusion.org
#441 [02:45] <KillSpammer> Heh uhh...
#442 [02:45] <KillSpammer> Why am i installing phpbb?
#443 [02:45] <xales> That goes to a phpBB install screen
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#445 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, neat, I think one of my server admins is having a bit of fun.
#446 [02:46] <KillSpammer> You think?
#447 [02:46] <KillSpammer> You own them :P
#448 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> No, actually, they own me.
#449 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> I'm the low man on the totem pole.
#450 [02:47] <KillSpammer> Oh...
#451 [02:47] <KillSpammer> Why not start your own It could be Fusionstar.org
#452 [02:47] <KillSpammer> I could be one of your admins
#453 [02:47] <KillSpammer> Defending the site at all costs!
#454 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> Nah, Greybot's my lonely companion in quiet times at starfusion.
#455 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> And we haven't had another oper since I joined, back in early 2000-ish
#456 [02:49] <KillSpammer> Whats the network details
#457 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> irc.starfusion.org
#458 [02:49] <Raitoningu> Greyvulpine: when i load world 1 it works fine, but when i try to load the world i want to edit which is 5, it's just empty space, and i only see my charaters head
#459 [02:49] <xales> KillSpammer: or terra.starfusion.org if you want Grey to kill you for lulz
#460 [02:49] <KillSpammer> Whats the port?
#461 [02:49] <xales> Hmm, maybe 6667?
#462 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Actually, I have global oper across all of starfusion
#463 [02:49] <xales> :P
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#465 [02:50] <xales> GreyVulpine: The MOTD wasn't very specific on that
#466 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> all.. 3-4 servers of it, but whatever
#467 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Didn't need to be
#468 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Who dares /whois me?
#469 [02:51] <xales> On starfusion?
#470 [02:51] * GreyVulpine nods
#470 [02:51] <xales> I'm not connected
#471 [02:51] <xales> too lazeee
#472 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> -terra.starfusion.org- *** Notice -- /WHOIS command used on you by: KillSpammer
#473 [02:51] <KillSpammer> Ohai
#474 [02:52] <KillSpammer> :P
#475 [02:52] <KillSpammer> How do you get those messages?
#476 [02:52] <KillSpammer> I just joined all your channels :P
#477 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> again, IRCop.
#478 [02:52] <xales> GreyVulpine: Doesn't it only show those if they are on the same server as you
#479 [02:52] <xales> but I guess it is
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#484 [02:59] <Raitoningu> Greyvulpine: when i load world 1 it works fine, but when i try to load the world i want to edit which is 5, it's just empty space, and i only see my charaters head.
#485 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Raitoningu - Did you play on world 5 yet?
#486 [03:00] <Raitoningu> yeah, im on it right now
#487 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Okay...
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#489 [03:00] <KillSpammer> You broke mcedit
#490 [03:00] <KillSpammer> :P
#491 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> When you open the world up, use wasd to move around, hold down right click and move the mouse to pan/tilt around
#492 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> or was the the middle mouse button
#493 [03:01] <Raitoningu> it's right click.
#494 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's the middle mouse button to pan/tilt
#495 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> isn't it?
#496 [03:02] <Raitoningu> Im in it now, and all i see is my characters face.
#497 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> Move around a bit
#498 [03:03] <Raitoningu> Ha, i found my spawn point. o_o
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#500 [03:05] <Raitoningu> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=120160 Could that have anything to do with it, cause i use it, and world one hasn't been used since i got it, since i didn't start that world, it was a friend quite awhile ago
#501 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> I don't know...
#502 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> haven't used that mod
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#504 [03:06] <Raitoningu> I'll try starting another new world and testing it
#505 [03:08] <KillSpammer> Pfft GreyVulpine hasn't even played minecraft nor used and mod nor even access irc. He was born with the knowledge
#506 [03:08] <KillSpammer> Plus he has a computer inside his head with Wifi
#507 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#508 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> I only wish..
#509 [03:08] <Raitoningu> Rofl wtf, well i think it is the mod.
#510 [03:09] <EmpiresBane> my dad recently told me i had wi-fi in my butt
#511 [03:09] <Mathuin> Your kink is not okay.
#512 [03:09] <EmpiresBane> would definately have been useful knowledge earlier in life
#513 [03:09] <KillSpammer> So did you ask your gf to check and thats when you broke up?
#514 [03:09] <KillSpammer> :P
#515 [03:10] <EmpiresBane> lol
#516 [03:10] <KillSpammer> Ultra Delayed Lol ftw?
#517 [03:11] <EmpiresBane> i'm having 3 convo's and burning cd's at the same time
#518 [03:11] <EmpiresBane> gimme a break
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#520 [03:12] <KillSpammer> Where are the other convos?
#521 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> In his head
#522 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> See? He doesn't deny it, it must be true.
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#524 [03:16] <EmpiresBane> facebook
#525 [03:16] <EmpiresBane> and another channel
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#533 [03:31] <EmpiresBane> i only have 1 day, 2 hours, and 24 minutes of music on my computer
#534 [03:31] <EmpiresBane> NEED MOAR MUSIC!!
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#536 [03:33] <Raitoningu> ._. Mcedit is lame, But that's only cause i don't know how to use it
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#539 [03:37] <Solvius> hello to ya all :)
#540 [03:37] <Sqozza> EmpiresBane, my dad had two weekes before a HDD Failure.
#541 [03:37] <Sqozza> And a GPU failure.
#542 [03:37] <Sqozza> And a CPU failure.
#543 [03:38] <Sqozza> Yaypowersurge.
#544 [03:38] <EmpiresBane> wow...
#545 [03:39] <Sqozza> Fried the 9600GT in it.
#546 [03:39] <Sqozza> Scorch marks and all, baby.
#547 [03:40] <Apan-> I'd call that an epic failure
#548 [03:43] <Sqozza> I'd call that a power surge, actually.
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#550 [03:49] <Coll> someone doesnt have a surge protector
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#560 [04:58] <Girl15> http://www.google.com.tr/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=1&oq=paland%c3%b6ken+r&hl=tr&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLS_trTR403TR403&q=paland%c3%b6ken+rent+a+car
#561 [04:58] <Girl15> http://www.google.com.tr/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=1&oq=paland%c3%b6ken+r&hl=tr&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLS_trTR403TR403&q=paland%c3%b6ken+rent+a+car
#562 [04:58] <Girl15> http://www.google.com.tr/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=1&oq=paland%c3%b6ken+r&hl=tr&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLS_trTR403TR403&q=paland%c3%b6ken+rent+a+car
#563 [04:58] <Girl15> http://www.google.com.tr/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=1&oq=paland%c3%b6ken+r&hl=tr&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLS_trTR403TR403&q=paland%c3%b6ken+rent+a+car
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#565 [04:59] <Sqozza> lolwut
#566 [05:01] <Zyn> >.com.tr
#567 [05:01] <Zyn> nope nope
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#576 [06:33] <KillSpammer> Haha ConMan8
#577 [06:33] <ConMan8> >_>
#578 [06:33] <ConMan8> <_<
#579 [06:33] <KillSpammer> Wahh Minecraft random low fps
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#584 [06:50] <DryUrTears> I just did the free premium account surveys and i got the email that says: "Thank you for your interest in a Minecraft Account. You will be receiving your account if you meet the qualifications. Regards, Staff" but what will happen now? Do i wait? or is this some kind of weird thing that doesn't work? or?
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#586 [06:55] <DryUrTears> Does anyone have experience with this?
#587 [06:59] <KillSpammer> DryUrTears, there are no free premium survays that are official
#588 [06:59] <KillSpammer> They are 3rd party survays
#589 [07:02] <DryUrTears> oh ok well thank you :)
#590 [07:02] <LordEddi> In general, if things sound to good to be true...they usually are ^^
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#595 [07:27] <DryUrTears> well then i want to pay for the game but i have no idea on how to work with pay pal :S can i get some help here?
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#598 [07:39] <LordEddi> DryUrTears: Do you have a PayPal account?
#599 [07:39] <DryUrTears> yes i do
#600 [07:39] <Mikau> More importantly...
#601 [07:39] <Mikau> Are you an Oscar Meyer Weiner?
#602 [07:40] <DryUrTears> a what?
#603 [07:40] <LordEddi> DryUrTears: Have you registered an account on minecraft.net?
#604 [07:40] <Mikau> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNddW2xmZp8
#605 [07:41] <DryUrTears> yes i did i got a minecraft.net account
#606 [07:41] <LordEddi> Good.
#607 [07:41] <LordEddi> Go to minecraft.net, and login.
#608 [07:41] <LordEddi> Then click on the big Buy Now! button.
#609 [07:41] <DryUrTears> i am :)
#610 [07:41] <LordEddi> Click on "I have read the user agreements" and then select Paypal.
#611 [07:42] <LordEddi> That will forward you to paypal.com
#612 [07:42] <LordEddi> Now, login with your paypal account
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#614 [07:42] <DryUrTears> ok
#615 [07:42] <LordEddi> Check that everything looks ok on the Review your Payment page, and click "Pay now"
#616 [07:43] <LordEddi> (buttom right I believe)
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#618 [07:43] <LordEddi> After that you get an option to return to minecraft.net I believe.
#619 [07:43] <LordEddi> Do that, and you should pretty much be set.
#620 [07:44] <LordEddi> When you return to minecraft.net after that, and press "Home", you should have "Play Minecraft Beta:" on the right hand side, and you can choose In Browser or Download.
#621 [07:44] <LordEddi> Chose your poison, and enjoy :)
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#623 [07:46] <DryUrTears> hmm i need to link a card :S
#624 [07:46] <LordEddi> Yeah...but you can unlink it again afterwards.
#625 [07:46] <LordEddi> You can also do a normal banktransfer to your paypal account tho.
#626 [07:46] <DryUrTears> but i don't have a visa or master or amex card
#627 [07:46] <LordEddi> If you dont feel like linking your card.
#628 [07:47] <LordEddi> That takes some time tho.
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#630 [07:47] <LordEddi> If you want to do it like that, go to paypal.com, log in and select "Top Up" in the top left corner.
#631 [07:48] <LordEddi> That will give you the bank transfer information you need to initiate a transfer from your bank.
#632 [07:49] <DryUrTears> how long will the discount be up?
#633 [07:49] <DryUrTears> because i need to know howmutch to deposit :)
#634 [07:50] <DryUrTears> and can i transfer the money with online banking?
#635 [07:50] <LordEddi> You can transfer it with online banking, yeah.
#636 [07:51] <LordEddi> And I doubt the current discount will be gone anytime soon.
#637 [07:51] <LordEddi> And a banktransfer usually takes like 2-4 days i believe.
#638 [07:51] <DryUrTears> and euh how can i choose my nickname?
#639 [07:51] <DryUrTears> that will be shown in multiplayer?
#640 [07:52] <LordEddi> You did that when you created your minecraft.net account.
#641 [07:53] <DryUrTears> oh and what if i don't want that name?
#642 [07:53] <LordEddi> Create a new minecraft.net account.
#643 [07:53] <DryUrTears> can it be done with the same e-mail address?
#644 [07:55] <LordEddi> Dont know.
#645 [07:56] <DryUrTears> hmm ok
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#647 [08:01] <Szernex> is there any type of block spiders won't crawl on? glass or so?
#648 [08:05] <peru__> i built 7 blocks high glass wall
#649 [08:05] <feenyx> Szernex: lava seems to be the trick
#650 [08:05] <peru__> spider somehow moved upwards on it
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#652 [08:06] <Szernex> ah well, I just solved it placing 2 cactus in the corner
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#654 [08:11] <DryUrTears> :S transfering doesn't work
#655 [08:11] <DryUrTears> seems like i can't buy the game -_-
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#657 [08:14] <DryUrTears> is there any other way to get money onto pay pal?
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#659 [08:18] <LordEddi> DryUrTears: Ofcourse transffering works.
#660 [08:18] <LordEddi> Well, unless you live in Iran or something..
#661 [08:19] <LordEddi> If you cant get it to work through online banking, you are pretty much fucked.
#662 [08:19] <LordEddi> Atleast if you dont have a VISA/Mastercard.
#663 [08:19] <DryUrTears> i guess i am :S
#664 [08:19] <DryUrTears> and no i don't
#665 [08:19] <LordEddi> But bank transfer works, you must be doing something wrong.
#666 [08:21] <BaconMan8> !server
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#668 [08:25] <DryUrTears> but can i play online then?
#669 [08:27] <DryUrTears> i can transfer to other bank accounts
#670 [08:28] <DryUrTears> so if i got a gift code i could transfer to the person who gave me the gift code
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#672 [08:29] <Szernex> Yay, seems like I got a more or less working monster farm
#673 [08:30] <DryUrTears> monster farms are easy :) just find a mob spawner and build a teap there :)
#674 [08:30] <Szernex> Meh, that's too easy :D
#675 [08:30] <Szernex> I made a 50x55x3 dark room
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#677 [08:31] <Szernex> couple of water trenches and a lava trap at the end
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#679 [08:42] <Szernex> holy cow there spawn a lot of skeletons...
#680 [08:49] <peru__> find a mob spawner and build a teap there <- inefficient
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#683 [08:59] <Szernex> what's the difference between normal and hard mode? are there more monsters spawning in hard mode or do they just have more hp?
#684 [09:03] <DryUrTears> i think that they just have more hp
#685 [09:03] <DryUrTears> correct me if i'm wrong
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#687 [09:05] <GuluGulu> alo
#688 [09:06] <Szernex> ohai
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#691 [09:12] <GuluGulu> hmmm time to install new ubuntu
#692 [09:13] <DryUrTears> hmmm can the game be purchased with a wallie card?
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#694 [09:19] <mbentley> wallie card?
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#696 [09:22] <DryUrTears> yea a card you buy in a shop with a code on it
#697 [09:22] <DryUrTears> and then you pay with the code
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#701 [09:34] <xolotl> Szernex: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Difficulty
#702 [09:35] <Szernex> Ah okay, thanks
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#705 [09:44] <GuluGulu> back and ubuntu installation at 50%
#706 [09:45] <SinZ> gratz
#707 [09:47] <GuluGulu> i never though minecraft will "make" me install linux after so many years :P
#708 [09:50] <DryUrTears> is there seriously no other way to pay for minecraft then paypal or visa or mastercard?
#709 [09:50] <GuluGulu> seems like not...
#710 [09:50] <GuluGulu> imo tey should have paysafe on that kind of game !
#711 [09:50] <xales> What other way would you need?
#712 [09:51] <xales> Very few people use PaySafe compared to major credit cards, and the fees are greater, so they make very very little profit doing that.
#713 [09:51] <GuluGulu> still more options = more money
#714 [09:53] <xales> Actually, no
#715 [09:53] <xales> It costs them money to accept PaySafe, and they have to have a minimum number of people buy it using PaySafe to avoid losing money
#716 [09:54] <GuluGulu> or they can have a higher price to cover the loss
#717 [09:54] <DryUrTears> wallie cards?
#718 [09:55] <xales> Does it really make sense to make the game more expensive, just to allow the few people who only have PaySafe to buy it?
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#720 [09:58] <DryUrTears> if i could just get someone to buy me a gift card :S i would even pay it back (normal international bank transfer)
#721 [10:02] <GuluGulu> seting up an ftp server like old days seems better than try to find settings in ubuntu :P (GUI sux)
#722 [10:05] <GuluGulu> any package that needs to be installed for minecraft server and is not installed at start ?
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#724 [10:10] <DryUrTears> if someone buys you a gift code and you use it can the buyer of the gift code get a refund so you can't use the game anymore?
#725 [10:11] <dx> hi, is there a way to know the ping/lag to a server?
#726 [10:12] <xales> dx: You could ping it outside of Minecraft
#727 [10:12] <dx> xales: i don't get replies, it's probably blocked by the firewall (but the host is up, of course)
#728 [10:12] <lukegb> dx: say something in chat. The time between you pressing 'enter' and it appearing on screen should be the rtt ish :P
#729 [10:13] <dx> heh
#730 [10:13] <dx> that's what i've been doing
#731 [10:13] <dx> either that or opening chests
#732 [10:13] <dx> (and my lag is horrible)
#733 [10:14] <dx> oh i have an idea! are there minecraft chat bots?
#734 [10:14] <xales> what do you mean?
#735 [10:15] <dx> something that connects to a minecraft server but only for the chat, and acts like an irc bot in there
#736 [10:15] <xolotl> Yes, such things exist
#737 [10:15] <dx> great :D
#738 [10:15] <xolotl> The one I've seen was both ways; it'd send IRC chatter to MC and the other way around
#739 [10:16] <dx> ah, i heard about craftirc but it only works with hMod which is dead
#740 [10:16] <xales> xolotl: People bring them in here regularly
#741 [10:16] <xales> and #minecraft
#742 [10:16] <xolotl> Ah, hadn't noticed
#743 [10:16] <xales> well, not regularly
#744 [10:16] <xolotl> The one I knew about was in a "private" chan
#745 [10:16] <xales> but fairly often
#746 [10:16] <xales> mostly #minecraft
#747 [10:17] <xales> they always use the default name 'CraftIRCTest' lulz
#748 [10:17] <xolotl> dx: I'd guess that somebody'll be maintaining one for Bukkit
#749 [10:17] <xales> bot configuration failfailfail
#750 [10:17] <xolotl> xales: heh, totally
#751 [10:17] <xales> At least it isn't as bad as the noobie eggdrops
#752 [10:17] <xales> :>
#753 [10:17] * xales joines #botcentral lulz
#753 [10:18] <xales> s/e//1
#754 [10:18] <GuluGulu> question: just installed ubuntu and java packages to run server when i run the server i go the message
#755 [10:18] <GuluGulu> starting minecraft server ....
#756 [10:19] <GuluGulu> loading properies
#757 [10:19] <GuluGulu> starting minecraft server *:port
#758 [10:19] <GuluGulu> stopping server
#759 [10:19] <GuluGulu> any idea ?
#760 [10:19] <xales> Classic server?
#761 [10:19] <GuluGulu> yes the one on tghe site
#762 [10:19] <GuluGulu> just dl it
#763 [10:20] <xales> What command are you using to run it
#764 [10:20] <GuluGulu> the one on the site
#765 [10:20] <xales> Paste it in here please
#766 [10:20] <GuluGulu> java -Xmx1024M Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#767 [10:21] <xales> Do you want a Classic or Beta server
#768 [10:21] <GuluGulu> beta
#769 [10:21] <xales> ok
#770 [10:21] <xales> What folder is that in?
#771 [10:22] <GuluGulu> in downloads @ users home dir
#772 [10:22] <xales> try running it again
#773 [10:23] <DryUrTears> if someone buys you a gift code and you use it can the buyer of the gift code get a refund so you can't use the game anymore?
#774 [10:23] <GuluGulu> still the same
#775 [10:23] <xales> probably can
#776 [10:23] <xales> GuluGulu: is there a file in the same folder as the server .jar called 'server.properties'
#777 [10:23] <SinZ> i would assume so for people trying to crack into gift codes
#778 [10:23] <GuluGulu> yes
#779 [10:23] <GuluGulu> i even try to edit it
#780 [10:23] <GuluGulu> placing my network card ip
#781 [10:24] <GuluGulu> even my lo still nothing
#782 [10:24] <SinZ> GuluGulu, try giving it its on folder
#783 [10:24] <GuluGulu> kk
#784 [10:24] <xales> yeah, put it in its own folder
#785 [10:24] <xales> and don't put any IP in there
#786 [10:24] <GuluGulu> well i tryed :P
#787 [10:24] <xales> on a home computer, anyway
#788 [10:24] <GuluGulu> anyway gonna move it now
#789 [10:24] <SinZ> the IP option is for Servers with multiple ips
#790 [10:24] <DryUrTears> so if someone gets me a giftcode he can get his money back after i paid him?
#791 [10:25] <SinZ> DryUrTears, buy it yourself then
#792 [10:25] <SinZ> and yes dryurtears
#793 [10:25] <DryUrTears> i can't buy it :S
#794 [10:25] <xales> why?
#795 [10:25] <DryUrTears> the bank doesn't let me transfer money to pay pal
#796 [10:26] <xales> use a debit card or buy a prepaid card?
#797 [10:26] <GuluGulu> still nothing i mved it at my ~/MCS dir and go the same msg
#798 [10:26] <DryUrTears> is that possible?
#799 [10:26] <xales> yes
#800 [10:26] <xales> debit cards work fine
#801 [10:26] <xales> some prepaid cards do, not all
#802 [10:26] <DryUrTears> and where can i get a card?
#803 [10:26] <DryUrTears> is that like a wallie card?
#804 [10:26] <xales> from your bank
#805 [10:26] <xales> no, it isn't
#806 [10:26] <SinZ> from america =P
#807 [10:27] <DryUrTears> wel i'm not in america :S
#808 [10:27] <GuluGulu> well i not in america eather and got it with debit card
#809 [10:27] <xales> SinZ: Banks in other countries also have debit cards :P
#810 [10:27] <GuluGulu> go to your bank and ask for debit card or prepaid card and they will tell you
#811 [10:27] <SinZ> but don't have the walmart-like cards
#812 [10:27] <GuluGulu> still nothing i mved it at my ~/MCS dir and go the same msg ****
#813 [10:27] <xales> GuluGulu: try deleting the server.properties file
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#815 [10:27] <xales> and using the default one it generates
#816 [10:27] <DryUrTears> hmm ok thanks i'll try
#817 [10:28] <DryUrTears> and do i use the debit card to place money on paypal or to pay directly
#818 [10:28] <SinZ> direct
#819 [10:28] <GuluGulu> still nothing makes new and stops
#820 [10:28] <GuluGulu> hmm i got a though
#821 [10:28] <DryUrTears> ok hmm ok
#822 [10:29] <DryUrTears> thx
#823 [10:29] <SinZ> Your Welcome
#824 [10:30] <xales> GuluGulu: Which java did you install?
#825 [10:31] <GuluGulu> gcj-4.4-jre-headless
#826 [10:31] <DryUrTears> and how is a debit card called in dutch? :p
#827 [10:31] <xales> GuluGulu: I think you need sun-jre6-bin
#828 [10:32] <SinZ> ehh googletranslate is your friend DryUrTears
#829 [10:32] <GuluGulu> xales: is tht he exact name of the packet ?
#830 [10:32] <xales> Yes
#831 [10:33] <SinZ> when i installed java onto my vpd
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#833 [10:33] <SinZ> vps
#834 [10:33] <SinZ> the packet name was just java
#835 [10:33] <mbentley> gcj won't work
#836 [10:33] <GuluGulu> nah cant find that packge
#837 [10:33] <GuluGulu> mbe
#838 [10:34] <GuluGulu> will the openjdk will work ?
#839 [10:34] <mbentley> maybe
#840 [10:34] <mbentley> what os is this?
#841 [10:34] <GuluGulu> ububtu 10.10
#842 [10:34] <GuluGulu> well i start dling the openjdk
#843 [10:34] <mbentley> you need to enable the correct repository
#844 [10:34] <SinZ> apt-get install -f java
#845 [10:35] <xales> GuluGulu: You need to enable the 'Multiverse' repository
#846 [10:35] <GuluGulu> kk gonna check that ferer i finsih ith jdk dl
#847 [10:35] <GuluGulu> hope it will not been need it
#848 [10:37] <GuluGulu> weeee
#849 [10:37] <GuluGulu> openjdk is working :
#850 [10:37] <GuluGulu> :
#851 [10:37] <GuluGulu> can somone try to connect to my server plz to check NATP
#852 [10:37] <xales> you can use the bot
#853 [10:37] <xales> !check
#854 [10:37] <xales> err,
#855 [10:37] <xales> !help
#856 [10:38] <GuluGulu> lovely
#857 [10:38] <SinZ> !client
#858 [10:38] <SinZ> ahh
#859 [10:38] <xales> GuluGulu: just !check (ip)
#860 [10:38] <GuluGulu> !check 87.202.21.182
#861 [10:38] <GuluGulu> nice linux redirection works :)
#862 [10:38] <SinZ> !check mca.uk.to
#863 [10:39] <SinZ> !check mca.uk.to:80
#864 [10:39] <GuluGulu> now the migration part
#865 [10:39] <SinZ> !check mca.uk.to:13337
#866 [10:39] <xales> !check google.com:80
#867 [10:39] <SinZ> =P
#868 [10:39] <xales> !check google.com:80
#869 [10:39] <xales> ooh, I knoe
#870 [10:39] <xales> know*
#871 [10:39] <xales> !check ipv6.google.com:80
#872 [10:39] <xales> hehe
#873 [10:39] <xales> FAIL
#874 [10:39] <xales> :>
#875 [10:39] <SinZ> whos bot is it
#876 [10:39] <xales> Kealper
#877 [10:40] <GuluGulu> darksigns ?
#878 [10:40] <xales> ?
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#880 [10:40] <SinZ> !tutorial
#881 [10:40] <GuluGulu> is what you onw or spoof ?
#882 [10:40] <xales> I own that
#883 [10:40] <xales> its a FCrDNS
#884 [10:40] <GuluGulu> ifc
#885 [10:41] <SinZ> doesn't everyone
#886 [10:41] <xales> You can set rDNS to anything you want
#887 [10:41] <xales> even if you don't own it
#888 [10:41] <xales> though that will piss off quite a few things
#889 [10:41] <xales> (IRC not always included)
#890 [10:41] <SinZ> xales: howto do it
#891 [10:42] <GuluGulu> !check 87.202.21.182
#892 [10:42] <xales> SinZ: For a home connection?
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#894 [10:42] <SinZ> for my irc
#895 [10:42] <xales> Are you running it from home?
#896 [10:42] <SinZ> yes
#897 [10:42] <xales> oh, but a BNC, right?
#898 [10:42] <SinZ> well, atm I'm using a bouncer, but its about to expire
#899 [10:42] <GuluGulu> ok which files do i need to move from my windows server to unix server so i got the same server ?
#900 [10:42] <SinZ> all files
#901 [10:42] <SinZ> its crossplatform
#902 [10:43] <xales> SinZ: If you aren't using a bouncer, it won't work
#903 [10:43] <GuluGulu> indeed java
#904 [10:43] <xales> you can't set rDNS on a home connection
#905 [10:43] <xales> you have to own the IP
#906 [10:43] <SinZ> xales, what bouncer service you using?
#907 [10:43] <xales> I'm not
#908 [10:43] <xales> I'm running irssi on my server
#909 [10:43] <SinZ> ahh
#910 [10:43] <SinZ> what kind of server
#911 [10:43] <SinZ> what distro
#912 [10:44] <xales> Debian
#913 [10:44] <GuluGulu> sinz: all files in world fold or even above it ?
#914 [10:44] <SinZ> yes
#915 [10:44] <xales> All files
#916 [10:44] <SinZ> xales, does debian use apt-get
#917 [10:44] <mbentley> yay debian
#918 [10:44] <mbentley> SinZ: yes
#919 [10:44] <xales> SinZ: The package manager is aptitude, yes
#920 [10:44] <xales> aptitude > apt-get
#921 [10:44] <mbentley> true story
#922 [10:44] <xales> aptitude is just a different utility
#923 [10:44] <SinZ> xales: install a bouncer pl0x =P
#924 [10:44] <xales> they are both aptitude though
#925 [10:45] <xales> SinZ: Too close to my connection limit
#926 [10:45] <SinZ> ah
#927 [10:45] <SinZ> how big
#928 [10:45] <xales> only 5 for Esper
#929 [10:45] <xales> but thats more or less normal
#930 [10:45] <SinZ> ooh yeh, forgot about that
#931 [10:45] <SinZ> synirc is 4
#932 [10:46] <SinZ> so how do you spoof the hostname?
#933 [10:46] <mbentley> i always hit the limit on synirc....
#934 [10:46] <statik> is it a bad idea to run a GUI on the server?
#935 [10:46] <xales> statik: Very
#936 [10:46] <xales> SinZ: You just set the rDNS for the IP you are connecting from
#937 [10:46] <SinZ> xales: i want a step by step tutorial with irc
#938 [10:47] <SinZ> with ssh*
#939 [10:47] <xales> SinZ: You don't do it through the server itself
#940 [10:47] <SinZ> how then
#941 [10:47] <xales> you do it with the asignee of the IP
#942 [10:47] <xales> who has control of it
#943 [10:47] <xales> usually through a control panel
#944 [10:47] <SinZ> so... a free shell wont do it
#945 [10:47] <xales> no
#946 [10:47] <SinZ> daymn
#947 [10:48] <xales> free shells won't work too well for IRC
#948 [10:48] <xales> (if at all)
#949 [10:48] <SinZ> i cant afford a vps, and i love bouncers
#950 [10:48] <SinZ> (is on one right now)
#951 [10:49] <xales> why don't you just ask dysgalt to let you keep the current one
#952 [10:49] <SinZ> its a vps...
#953 [10:49] <statik> i have fluxbox running ... why is a GUI so bad? ram or cpu cycles?
#954 [10:49] <SinZ> and i cant afford it
#955 [10:49] <mbentley> a gui really isn't needed
#956 [10:49] <SinZ> i got a 1month trial
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#958 [10:50] <xales> statik: you don't need it, and it is a large waste of resources
#959 [10:50] <xales> even fluxbox is excessive, because X still has to run
#960 [10:50] <xales> SinZ: Oh
#961 [10:50] <xales> When I get native IPv6, i'll give people bouncers or whatever
#962 [10:51] <SinZ> can i be on a reserve list =D
#963 [10:52] <xales> well, I can only provide...
#964 [10:52] <xales> 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 bouncers
#965 [10:52] <xales> so I'll keep you in mind
#966 [10:52] <xales> :>
#967 [10:53] <xales> (IPv6 for win)
#968 [10:53] <SinZ> ehh wtf
#969 [10:53] <SinZ> how can you support that many
#970 [10:53] <xales> Well, I couldn't run that many
#971 [10:53] <statik> guess when i run the server ill go to irssi and centericq
#972 [10:54] <xales> but I have a /48 block
#973 [10:54] <statik> thx
#974 [10:54] <SinZ> xales, with that rDNS setup thingy for mca.uk.to =P
#975 [10:54] <xales> and thats how many individual addresses are in the block
#976 [10:54] <mbentley> i must say i suck when it comes to ipv6
#977 [10:54] <xales> SinZ: Most of my IPv6 reverses are spoofs
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#979 [10:54] <xales> mbentley: I didn't get it for a while
#980 [10:54] <xales> suddenly, i did
#981 [10:55] <xales> =/
#982 [10:55] <GuluGulu> nice all are working :) ty
#983 [10:55] <mbentley> mostly because when i was in school, they were like 'oh, you will never need to know ipv6...'
#984 [10:55] <xales> mbentley: ._.
#985 [10:55] <mbentley> lol
#986 [10:55] <xales> its virtually the same as IPv4
#987 [10:55] <xales> just bigger
#988 [10:55] <mbentley> yeah
#989 [10:55] <xales> much bigger
#990 [10:56] <mbentley> it is pretty much a matter of not really caring that much :D
#991 [10:56] <xales> Two years from now
#992 [10:56] <SinZ> it'll be a must
#993 [10:56] <xales> is my guess for when IPv6 is in use by most ISPs
#994 [10:56] <xales> worldwid
#995 [10:56] <xales> e
#996 [10:56] <SinZ> I'm ipv4 and ipv6
#997 [10:56] <SinZ> xales: exept egypt
#998 [10:57] <xales> ._.
#999 [10:57] <SinZ> there government doesn't like internet
#1000 [10:57] <mbentley> yeah, you will pretty much be able to translate ipv6 <-> ipv4 for a long time
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#1002 [10:58] <mbentley> that is about all i know :)
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#1004 [11:01] <LordEddi> |
#1005 [11:01] <SinZ> so xales, why you buying a subnet of ipv6 addresses
#1006 [11:02] <xales> not buying
#1007 [11:02] <xales> free
#1008 [11:02] <xales> they are assigning /48s for free :>
#1009 [11:02] <SinZ> your getting a free subnet, how
#1010 [11:02] <SinZ> i got a friend that might like that offer
#1011 [11:03] <xales> any IPv6 tunnelbroker should do it fine
#1012 [11:03] <SinZ> (is starting to go into the hosting buisness)
#1013 [11:03] <xales> it isn't native IPv6, so it will be slower
#1014 [11:03] <xales> SinZ: That won't do then
#1015 [11:03] <xales> native IPv6 is what he wants
#1016 [11:03] <SinZ> whats the dif?
#1017 [11:03] <xales> and you get assigned that by your network provider, you don't just acquire it
#1018 [11:03] <xales> Tunneled IPv6 is basically just a proxy
#1019 [11:03] <xales> to a computer that does have native IPv6
#1020 [11:04] <xales> he has to wait for his network provider to get IPv6, and then give him a block (they probably will give out /48s or /64s)
#1021 [11:05] <mbentley> one reason i don't really need to learn about ipv6 right at the moment is because it won't really bother me here at work for a long while
#1022 [11:05] <mbentley> that whole having a class 'a' subnet thing...
#1023 [11:06] <mbentley> yay for being part of the problem!
#1024 [11:06] <xales> lol, how long ago did you get that
#1025 [11:06] <mbentley> quite a while ago
#1026 [11:06] <xales> you would have had to
#1027 [11:07] <mbentley> 6/1994
#1028 [11:08] <xales> which one is it?
#1029 [11:08] <mbentley> 40.x.x.x
#1030 [11:08] * mbentley waits to see how long it takes xales to figure out which company i am working with
#1030 [11:08] <lukegb> xales: some dcs/hosting companies do do ipv6, but you have to request it
#1031 [11:08] <lukegb> mbentley: IBM! :P
#1032 [11:09] <mbentley> lol nope
#1033 [11:09] <xales> lukegb: Thats what I mean, he would probably know if he had it available
#1034 [11:09] <lukegb> IBM have a heck of a lot, don't they?
#1035 [11:09] <xales> "Eli Lilly and Company (ELILIL) "
#1036 [11:09] <lukegb> I have a heck of a lot of IPv6 (tunneled) addresses
#1037 [11:09] <mbentley> tada
#1038 [11:09] <xales> I have my unused /48
#1039 [11:09] <xales> :)
#1040 [11:09] <mbentley> xales = winrar
#1041 [11:10] <mbentley> ibm has a /8
#1042 [11:10] <mbentley> 9.x.x.x
#1043 [11:10] * xales looks up technical contact info and calls, asks for mbentley
#1043 [11:10] <mbentley> haha
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#1045 [11:10] <mbentley> it would take them forever to route you to me :D
#1046 [11:11] <SinZ> what section you in
#1047 [11:11] * mbentley googles 'how to subnet ipv6'
#1047 [11:11] * mbentley is in web hosting
#1047 [11:11] * SinZ calls that section and asks for mbentley
#1047 [11:11] <SinZ> hmm mbentley
#1048 [11:11] <SinZ> free or paid
#1049 [11:12] <mbentley> web hosting @ lilly
#1050 [11:12] <SinZ> link
#1051 [11:12] <mbentley> paid
#1052 [11:12] <mbentley> we host major sites
#1053 [11:12] <SinZ> damn
#1054 [11:12] <SinZ> arn't i a cheapskate =P
#1055 [11:12] <Szernex_> http://yfrog.com/gz78sylj project first actual monster farm finished.
#1056 [11:12] <mbentley> lol
#1057 [11:12] <mbentley> nothing wrong with wanting free stuff :D
#1058 [11:13] <SinZ> id go paid, but I'm 14
#1059 [11:13] <SinZ> so i cant pay on the internet
#1060 [11:13] <mbentley> lol ah, that would be a problem then :D
#1061 [11:13] <SinZ> i had to be gifted for minecraft
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#1063 [11:13] <xales> SinZ: Get a job and a debit card
#1064 [11:13] <xales> :)
#1065 [11:13] <SinZ> xales, need to be 18 for debit card
#1066 [11:13] <xales> wrong
#1067 [11:14] <SinZ> need the bank accounts signiture
#1068 [11:14] <xales> you can get a joint card with a parent
#1069 [11:14] <SinZ> lol that aint happoning
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#1071 [11:15] <lukegb> SinZ: get a Visa gift card :P
#1072 [11:15] <xales> ^
#1073 [11:15] <SinZ> lol that aint happoning eather
#1074 [11:15] <lukegb> ...
#1075 [11:15] * lukegb headdesks
#1075 [11:16] <Postoffice> get paypal
#1076 [11:16] <xales> you don't need any permission to get one of those
#1077 [11:16] * xales headstratospheres
#1077 [11:18] <SinZ> xales, what good is a visa card if i cant get money onto it
#1078 [11:18] <SinZ> Postoffice, and how do i get money onto the paypal
#1079 [11:18] <SinZ> my parents are paranoid of the internet =(
#1080 [11:19] <xales> SinZ: No, prepaid cards are
#1081 [11:19] <xales> you pay $50 for a card with $50 on it
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#1083 [11:22] <Postoffice> SinZ - u can go into our bank, and put it inn.
#1084 [11:22] <mbentley> whoo debian squeeze is going stable this weekened!
#1085 [11:22] <Postoffice> just write down the info you get from paypal
#1086 [11:22] <mbentley> *weekend
#1087 [11:22] <Postoffice> and take it to the bank
#1088 [11:23] * Kealper has returned
#1088 [11:23] <xales> mbentley: :O
#1089 [11:23] <Kealper> :O
#1090 [11:23] <mbentley> http://wiki.debian.org/ReleasePartySqueeze
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#1092 [11:24] <SinZ> Postoffice, i know how to, its the permission issue
#1093 [11:24] <Postoffice> then get ur uncle to do it? or something
#1094 [11:25] <Postoffice> i turned 18 yesterday, and i know how frusrated u are:P
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#1096 [11:27] <blaphmat> hey, I bought minecraft ago one week, but I didn't get a key yet....
#1097 [11:27] <Kealper> key.....did you buy a gift code?
#1098 [11:28] <xales> Unless you bought a gift code, there are no keys involved
#1099 [11:29] <blaphmat> how do you mean? I bought a gift code just for me
#1100 [11:29] <Kealper> O.o
#1101 [11:29] <Kealper> check http://www.minecraft.net/skin/ after logging in to your account
#1102 [11:29] <Kealper> there is a list at the bottom that says Gift codes, it should be under there
#1103 [11:31] <blaphmat> ye there it is
#1104 [11:32] <blaphmat> but there is no code standing or something like that
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#1106 [11:33] <xales> blaphmat: what do you mean
#1107 [11:34] <blaphmat> I should have gotten a key when I bought the game, but I didn't get
#1108 [11:35] <xales> Are you sure you bought a gift code?
#1109 [11:35] <blaphmat> I'm totally sure
#1110 [11:35] <blaphmat> I know what I did :D
#1111 [11:35] <xales> Just to check, what is your username
#1112 [11:35] <blaphmat> are you admin!?
#1113 [11:36] <xales> no, anyone can check
#1114 [11:36] <xales> !paid xales
#1115 [11:36] <lukegb> !paid blaphmat
#1116 [11:36] <lukegb> !paid lukegb
#1117 [11:36] <xales> !paid lolantispamdelay
#1118 [11:36] <lukegb> !paid lukegb
#1119 [11:36] <lukegb> :D
#1120 [11:38] <blaphmat> !? I can send a screenshot of my bank transfer to support
#1121 [11:38] <blaphmat> it this possible?
#1122 [11:39] <xales> Wait..bank transfer?
#1123 [11:39] <xales> did you use Paypal and transfer money from a bank?
#1124 [11:39] <blaphmat> well I did with paypal
#1125 [11:39] <xales> Did you use a bank account or a credit/debit card
#1126 [11:39] <blaphmat> bank account
#1127 [11:40] <xales> are you sure the payment actually went through, and not just to paypal
#1128 [11:40] <Szernex_> !paid szernex
#1129 [11:40] <blaphmat> I don't know that, but I got an email from paypal that they sent the money
#1130 [11:41] <xales> Log into paypal
#1131 [11:41] <xales> and look in the transaction list
#1132 [11:41] <xales> there should be two seperate ones, one that added it to your paypal account, and then one that sent it
#1133 [11:42] <blaphmat> it was just a customer account
#1134 [11:43] <xales> what?
#1135 [11:43] <xales> 'customer account'?
#1136 [11:43] <blaphmat> a paypal customer account
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#1138 [11:45] <blaphmat> it means that you key in your tranfer information only one time
#1139 [11:45] <nipper> http://www.dump.com/2011/01/30/you-may-have-missed-this-scene-from-stargate-sg-1-video/
#1140 [11:45] <xales> blaphmat: I don't think there are such things
#1141 [11:45] <xales> I'm fairly certain you can just log in to Paypal
#1142 [11:46] <xales> using the email and password you gave them
#1143 [11:46] <blaphmat> ok I'm trying
#1144 [11:48] <mbentley> hmm, sun-java6-jre isn't in multiverse on ubuntu 10.10
#1145 [11:48] <mbentley> it is in the partner repo
#1146 [11:48] <xales> the wiki lied to meh DDDDD:
#1147 [11:49] * xales finds it amusing to type like that on occasion
#1147 [11:49] <mbentley> just did a fresh install to write some quick steps so i don't have to guess
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#1150 [11:53] <blaphmat> ok there is no account and there was the option to pay without announcement on paypal, seriously
#1151 [11:55] <xales> blaphmat: I think that is why it didn't work then
#1152 [11:55] <xales> you need to email them
#1153 [11:55] <xales> email daniel@mojang.com
#1154 [11:55] <blaphmat> you mean paypal?
#1155 [11:56] <xales> no, Mojang
#1156 [11:57] <blaphmat> ok I sent one to support@mojang.com, but didn't get an answer
#1157 [11:57] <xales> that is the wrong address
#1158 [11:57] <xales> daniel@mojang.com
#1159 [11:57] <blaphmat> ok I will take this email adress
#1160 [11:57] <SinZ> don't you love it when you tell someone to do this, and they do something else and ask why it didn't work
#1161 [11:58] <lukegb> xales: well, it's sort of the right address, but noone cares about it.
#1162 [11:58] <xales> lukegb: Not for payments
#1163 [11:58] <xales> payment@mojang.com is for payment stuff
#1164 [11:58] <SinZ> eh
#1165 [11:58] <SinZ> what about -
#1166 [11:58] <SinZ> ninjad
#1167 [11:58] <xales> but daniel@mojang.com is checked more often
#1168 [11:59] <blaphmat> ok thanks, I have also the document number of transfer and so on, if they need it
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#1170 [11:59] <SinZ> transaction id, that'll help
#1171 [11:59] <Roenie> breakable items that are in the vanilla survival world that cannot be *placed* by the player?
#1172 [11:59] <SinZ> 0.o
#1173 [12:00] <Roenie> ores?
#1174 [12:00] <Roenie> anything else?
#1175 [12:00] <xales> Just ores
#1176 [12:00] <SinZ> ores can be placed in vannila
#1177 [12:00] <blaphmat> Thanks to Xales for help!!!
#1178 [12:00] <SinZ> you just spawn them, then place
#1179 [12:00] <xales> SinZ: not all of them
#1180 [12:00] <xales> vanilla = without spaning
#1181 [12:00] <xales> spawning*
#1182 [12:00] <SinZ> well, yeh
#1183 [12:01] <Roenie> ty
#1184 [12:01] <SinZ> but every block can be placed with spawning
#1185 [12:01] <xales> Leaves though, is about it
#1186 [12:01] <xales> and those can be placed by planting a sapling and waiting
#1187 [12:01] <xales> but who wants to use leaves for anything, lol
#1188 [12:01] <SinZ> treehouse
#1189 [12:01] <SinZ> hedges
#1190 [12:03] <Roenie> weed farm
#1191 [12:03] <SinZ> Roenie: sponge
#1192 [12:06] <Shadow386> xales
#1193 [12:07] <xales> Shadow386
#1194 [12:07] <xales> hows the maintenance?
#1195 [12:07] <Shadow386> well we just started and everyone is getting on Freebuild :P
#1196 [12:08] <xales> I'd come on if this computer could run Minecraft at a FPS greater than 1
#1197 [12:08] <lukegb> Zomg
#1198 [12:08] <lukegb> Shadow386!!11!!!!
#1199 [12:08] <Shadow386> ello lukegb
#1200 [12:08] <lukegb> :P
#1201 [12:08] <Shadow386> xales lol
#1202 [12:08] <Shadow386> lukegb hows crapbukkit?
#1203 [12:08] <lukegb> Cruppy? Idk
#1204 [12:09] <lukegb> You running hMod or something?
#1205 [12:09] <Shadow386> yup
#1206 [12:09] <xales> Shadow386: y u no want fukkit
#1207 [12:09] <Shadow386> I love how their staff couldnt update hMod yet only ONE guy didit by himself
#1208 [12:09] <Shadow386> xales cause the devs suck :3
#1209 [12:09] <lukegb> Shadow386: because we want to concentrate on bukkit?...
#1210 [12:10] <xales> lukegb: #fukkit
#1211 [12:10] <xales> lololol
#1212 [12:10] <Shadow386> but lukegb, only one guy did better in a week when the bukkit staff only took not even an hour before they gave up.
#1213 [12:10] <lukegb> Huh?
#1214 [12:10] <Shadow386> they basically screwed over HALF the community
#1215 [12:10] <Shadow386> when they didnt want to work on hMod
#1216 [12:10] <lukegb> ^
#1217 [12:11] <lukegb> It's an obfuscated pile of dog poo
#1218 [12:11] <lukegb> :P
#1219 [12:11] <Shadow386> bukkit or hMod?
#1220 [12:11] <xales> both!
#1221 [12:11] <lukegb> hMod
#1222 [12:11] <Shadow386> cause Maeglin did a damn good job making it work
#1223 [12:11] <lukegb> xales: bukkit isn't obfuscated :P
#1224 [12:11] <xales> lukegb: checkout latest version. it is now >:D
#1225 [12:11] <lukegb> And... He can't even spell Meaglin's name correctly.
#1226 [12:11] <Shadow386> bukkit is also probably never going to be fully released
#1227 [12:11] <Shadow386> lukegb I just woke up >_>
#1228 [12:11] * xales is in your source control, obfuscating your code!
#1228 [12:12] <lukegb> xales: checkout? Ohgodssvn
#1229 [12:12] * xales goes to bathroom! awaaaaay
#1229 [12:12] <lukegb> Shadow386: but hey0 said he would update hMod whilst Bukkit was being prepared
#1230 [12:12] <lukegb> So you can blame him for that :P
#1231 [12:13] <Shadow386> again, they know how hey0 works so they shouldve expected he wouldnt try
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#1234 [12:13] <Kitra13> hi
#1235 [12:13] <Heineken> Hello
#1236 [12:13] <Shadow386> ._.
#1237 [12:13] <Heineken> I have a big problem here.
#1238 [12:13] <lukegb> Shadow386: And Meaglin also said he would do it, so...
#1239 [12:13] <Kitra13> can someone answer me a lil quetion about minecraft?
#1240 [12:13] <Heineken> When I connect to a multiplayer server, I fall trough the sky then it disconnects me.
#1241 [12:14] <Shadow386> but still, they shouldve asked notch and the staff BEFORE starting or else more then 50% of the community that USES hMod wouldnt be screwed over as they wait for a working mod
#1242 [12:14] <Shadow386> Heineken sounds like an issue with the serer
#1243 [12:14] <Shadow386> server*
#1244 [12:14] <Shadow386> where's it hosted?
#1245 [12:14] <lukegb> Also Craftbukkit is in a usable state
#1246 [12:14] <Heineken> Shadow, other people can connect
#1247 [12:15] <Shadow386> its also not legally able to distribute :P
#1248 [12:15] <Shadow386> Heineken is your internet slow?
#1249 [12:15] <Heineken> No
#1250 [12:15] <Heineken> 15 MBITS Down, 2 up
#1251 [12:15] <Shadow386> hm
#1252 [12:15] <Shadow386> where's the server hosted?
#1253 [12:15] <Heineken> London
#1254 [12:15] <Shadow386> and where are you hosted?
#1255 [12:16] <Heineken> Holland
#1256 [12:16] <Shadow386> hm
#1257 [12:16] <Shadow386> are you the server owner?
#1258 [12:16] <Heineken> Yes
#1259 [12:16] <Shadow386> alright
#1260 [12:16] <Shadow386> if you can get access to the server for a moment
#1261 [12:16] <Heineken> Internal exception: java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 7
#1262 [12:16] <Heineken> yea
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#1264 [12:17] <Shadow386> try going into the world folder, then the players
#1265 [12:17] <Heineken> yes
#1266 [12:17] <Shadow386> find your minecraft name.dat
#1267 [12:17] <Shadow386> and rename it
#1268 [12:17] <Shadow386> try logging in again and tell results
#1269 [12:17] <Heineken> alright
#1270 [12:17] <Heineken> brb
#1271 [12:17] <Shadow386> also if you are using any mods, it may interfere
#1272 [12:17] <Heineken> Nope
#1273 [12:17] <xales> Kitra13: What is the question?
#1274 [12:17] <Heineken> Alright I got in
#1275 [12:17] <Heineken> But then
#1276 [12:18] <Heineken> Internal exception: java.io.IOException: Bad compressed data format <-
#1277 [12:18] <lukegb> Shadow386: neither's hmod
#1278 [12:18] <Shadow386> Heineken that's weird.
#1279 [12:18] <Kitra13> can someone help me ?
#1280 [12:18] <Shadow386> lukegb how so? it works fine over here.
#1281 [12:18] <xales> Heineken: Are you using a Minecraft hosting company service?
#1282 [12:18] <Heineken> Nope
#1283 [12:18] <xales> Kitra13: I asked you what your question is already.
#1284 [12:18] <Heineken> I have a dedicated box
#1285 [12:18] <xales> Heineken: How are you launching the server?
#1286 [12:19] <Heineken> Running a .exe
#1287 [12:19] <Shadow386> what OS?
#1288 [12:19] <Heineken> Windows webserver 2008
#1289 [12:19] <Heineken> McMyAdmin.exe
#1290 [12:19] <Shadow386> ew
#1291 [12:19] <Shadow386> i mean
#1292 [12:19] <Shadow386> hm
#1293 [12:19] <xales> Windows ._.
#1294 [12:19] <Shadow386> idk I use linux so I'm stumped :3
#1295 [12:20] <Kitra13> well can you tell me, if i register myself on the minecraft HP, do is use that acc to login into minecraft ?
#1296 [12:20] <xales> Heineken: Do you have the free version?
#1297 [12:20] <Shadow386> Kitra13 yes
#1298 [12:20] <xales> Kitra13: You can use that to log into Classic, not Beta
#1299 [12:20] <Shadow386> only if you bought minecraft will it work in survival
#1300 [12:20] <xales> you have to pay to log into Beta
#1301 [12:20] <Shadow386> >.>
#1302 [12:20] <Heineken> Xales, I have a original bought account
#1303 [12:20] <Shadow386> xales hivemind brofist
#1304 [12:20] <Kitra13> and if i join a server in multiplayer, i there a option to change my name or is it the same name of my acc?
#1305 [12:21] <xales> Heineken: for McMyAdmin?
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#1307 [12:21] <xales> Kitra13: It is the name of your account
#1308 [12:21] <Shadow386> you cant change yet
#1309 [12:21] <Heineken> Xales ?
#1310 [12:21] <Shadow386> i wish we could :<
#1311 [12:21] <SFX_Acidic> Im in need of help of creating a server
#1312 [12:21] <Heineken> First it worked
#1313 [12:21] <SFX_Acidic> I keep getting " failed to load main-class manifest attribute "
#1314 [12:21] <Kitra13> ah ok so i should think about my acc name carfully when i creat one
#1315 [12:21] <Heineken> Atm my friend is connected and playing
#1316 [12:21] <Shadow386> SFX_Acidic query and I can help
#1317 [12:21] <Shadow386> Kitra13 yup
#1318 [12:21] <Heineken> I am now joining another random server
#1319 [12:22] <Kitra13> ah great thx, i think about buying minecraft, but how many servers are out there?
#1320 [12:22] <Shadow386> thousands
#1321 [12:22] <Shadow386> I own two :3
#1322 [12:22] <xales> There is no exact number, but many thousands
#1323 [12:22] <xales> Shadow386: The ratio of MCMA servers to players it 0.8:1
#1324 [12:23] <xales> err, 0.8 players per server
#1325 [12:23] <xales> ._____.
#1326 [12:23] <Shadow386> wut?
#1327 [12:23] <Heineken> Eh
#1328 [12:23] <Heineken> When connecting to other servers
#1329 [12:23] <Heineken> It gived a Bad packed id error
#1330 [12:23] <Kitra13> ^^ i see many vids with big struktures on flat grounds unlike the custom generated surface fo the world, is there a way to avoid these flatskinworlds?
#1331 [12:23] <Shadow386> Heineken are you using a hack or something? O.o
#1332 [12:23] <Heineken> No
#1333 [12:24] <Shadow386> Kitra13 that sounds like classic mode. just find a server that isn't like that by joining random ones
#1334 [12:24] <Shadow386> Heineken try redownloading the minecraft files
#1335 [12:24] <Kitra13> are your servers classic ? =)
#1336 [12:24] <xales> Heineken: Try connecting to smp.shadow-craft.net:25570
#1337 [12:25] <Shadow386> if you're on windows, rename %appdata%/.minecraft/bin to bin2 and run minecraft.exe
#1338 [12:25] <Shadow386> Kitra13 nope, they are survival
#1339 [12:25] <Shadow386> I MIGHT open a classic again but who knows
#1340 [12:25] <Shadow386> we were a popular classic one. always ended up with 50 people on simultaneously
#1341 [12:25] <Shadow386> once*
#1342 [12:26] <Kitra13> ok i think i dont understand that now, classic and survival ? mean classis are flat and survival custom generated with monster eh ?
#1343 [12:26] <Shadow386> classic CAN be flat if they use a mod
#1344 [12:27] <Shadow386> survival is also known as Beta
#1345 [12:27] <Shadow386> classic is only building, no monsters and is on a small map unless someone is using a mod
#1346 [12:27] <Heineken> Shadow
#1347 [12:27] <Heineken> I removed the .minecraft folder
#1348 [12:27] <Shadow386> survival/beta can be almost limitless, monsters, up-to-date blocks, and fun
#1349 [12:28] <Shadow386> wait, did you delete it?
#1350 [12:28] <Heineken> ya
#1351 [12:28] <Shadow386> ._.
#1352 [12:28] <Shadow386> tell me you didnt have any singleplayer worlds
#1353 [12:28] <xales> Heineken: The whole .minecraft folder, or just bin
#1354 [12:28] <Heineken> .minecraft folder
#1355 [12:28] <xales> That wasn't what he said to do ._.
#1356 [12:28] <Heineken> Xales
#1357 [12:28] <Shadow386> if you had any single player worlds, they are deleted now. restore then before its too late D:
#1358 [12:28] <Kitra13> so classix < survival ? =)
#1359 [12:28] <Heineken> I'm connected to smp.shadow-craft.net:25570
#1360 [12:29] <xales> Kitra13: Yes
#1361 [12:29] <Shadow386> Kitra13 pretty much
#1362 [12:29] <xales> Heineken: Try connecting to your server now then
#1363 [12:29] <Shadow386> Heineken I see no issues in my console
#1364 [12:29] <Kitra13> k i think i buy it ^^
#1365 [12:29] <Shadow386> Kitra13 good call
#1366 [12:29] <Shadow386> since I cannot advertise my server, i'll let xales do it :P
#1367 [12:30] <Heineken> I'll try it
#1368 [12:30] <xales> Shadow386: you can have $10 if you press the following keys. alt-tab, s+t+o+p+enter
#1369 [12:30] <xales> also, you can advertise it if it is for checking purposes or if someone asks
#1370 [12:30] <Heineken> nope
#1371 [12:30] <Shadow386> xales u so funny
#1372 [12:30] <xales> Shadow386: I try
#1373 [12:30] <Heineken> Xales Can you try to connect to 109.70.148.30
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#1375 [12:31] <xales> !check 109.70.148.30
#1376 [12:31] <xales> I can't do anything more than that
#1377 [12:31] <Shadow386> ill check
#1378 [12:31] <Kitra13> ok now i need to fugure out how to change my name in this nettalk client i use
#1379 [12:31] <Heineken> !check 109.70.148.30
#1380 [12:31] <Shadow386> /nick <nickname>
#1381 [12:31] <xales> Kitra13: /nick (newname)
#1382 [12:31] <xales> Shadow386: \o/ ninja \o/
#1383 [12:31] <Sinnersaix> ah looks like it works
#1384 [12:31] <Shadow386> Heineken looks like its working
#1385 [12:31] <Sinnersaix> thx shadow
#1386 [12:32] <xales> Shadow386: scale of 1-100, how ugly does this look on your client
#1387 [12:33] <lukegb> Shadow386: hMod is currently illegal to distribute, thanks to Meaglin
#1388 [12:33] <xales> and then how about this
#1389 [12:33] <Shadow386> just looks as if it's highlighted
#1390 [12:33] <lukegb> In exactly the same way, actually ;)
#1391 [12:33] <Shadow386> lukegb how so?
#1392 [12:33] <lukegb> Meaglin decided to rename and redistribute all the minecraft classes
#1393 [12:33] <lukegb> and didn't attribute jarjar, breaking the GPL
#1394 [12:33] <lukegb> when asked, he said he 'didn't care'
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#1396 [12:35] <NeedSomeHelp> hello,a questiion:when someone change the systemtime he cant run faster can i fix it with a plugin?
#1397 [12:35] <Shadow386> meh at least it still works better than bukkit
#1398 [12:35] <NeedSomeHelp> or something
#1399 [12:35] <Shadow386> NeedSomeHelp wut?
#1400 [12:36] <NeedSomeHelp> "wut" ? whats that?
#1401 [12:36] <xales> Can you ask your question again
#1402 [12:37] * SFX_Acidic waits
#1402 [12:37] <NeedSomeHelp> when a player change the system time on his pc he can run faster
#1403 [12:37] <Heineken> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
#1404 [12:37] <xales> SFX_Acidic: Aren't you PMing with Shadow?
#1405 [12:37] <Heineken> Minecraft is starting to piss me off
#1406 [12:37] <SFX_Acidic> No
#1407 [12:37] <Heineken> I am having a
#1408 [12:37] <SFX_Acidic> No one has talked to me yet
#1409 [12:38] <xales> He asked you to PM him
#1410 [12:38] <SFX_Acidic> lol
#1411 [12:38] <Heineken> Bad compressed data format error
#1412 [12:38] <xales> ._.
#1413 [12:38] <SFX_Acidic> ih
#1414 [12:38] <SFX_Acidic> oh*
#1415 [12:38] <NeedSomeHelp> how can i fix it?
#1416 [12:38] <xales> Heineken: Talk to the server host
#1417 [12:38] <xales> NeedSomeHelp: What do you mean 'fix it'?
#1418 [12:38] <xales> Do you mean make it not work?
#1419 [12:38] <Heineken> Xales
#1420 [12:38] <Heineken> I am the host
#1421 [12:38] <xales> oh, right. ._.
#1422 [12:38] <NeedSomeHelp> i dont what that anybody can run faster, i will change it? how?
#1423 [12:39] <SFX_Acidic> I haven't dm'd someone in mirc in ages
#1424 [12:39] <SFX_Acidic> lol
#1425 [12:39] <SFX_Acidic> I'm usually on xchat
#1426 [12:39] <xales> NeedSomeHelp: You can't make it so people can't run fast
#1427 [12:39] <xales> They are free to do whatever they want on their computer
#1428 [12:39] <xales> it doesn't work on Multiplayer, as far as i know
#1429 [12:39] <NeedSomeHelp> it works on hmod, on my server and with cheat engenie
#1430 [12:40] <NeedSomeHelp> and i dont want
#1431 [12:40] <xales> There is nothing you can do about that
#1432 [12:40] <NeedSomeHelp> does not exist a bot that kicks poeple do that?
#1433 [12:40] <xales> No
#1434 [12:40] <NeedSomeHelp> -.-
#1435 [12:41] <Sinnersaix> yeah now im a minecrafter XD
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#1438 [12:42] <BurnZeZ> !paid ChauffeR
#1439 [12:43] <Shadow386> !paid Shadow
#1440 [12:43] <Shadow386> !paid Shadow386
#1441 [12:43] <Shadow386> :3
#1442 [12:43] <xales> !paid Shadowcraftsucks
#1443 [12:43] <Shadow386> :<
#1444 [12:43] <xales> :0
#1445 [12:43] <Shadow386> oh please you like my server :3
#1446 [12:43] <Sinnersaix> do i ?
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#1448 [12:44] <xales> Guess your haters are cheap, Shadow386
#1449 [12:44] <mypasswordis12345> !paid
#1450 [12:44] <mypasswordis12345> !paid AuBot
#1451 [12:44] <mypasswordis12345> !paid sparkler
#1452 [12:44] <Shadow386> HAH
#1453 [12:44] <xales> !disable
#1454 [12:44] <xales> I win
#1455 [12:44] <Shadow386> xales did you make that bot?
#1456 [12:44] <xales> Nope
#1457 [12:44] <mypasswordis12345> !enable
#1458 [12:44] <Sinnersaix> hm can you see that i pay for mc ?
#1459 [12:44] <mypasswordis12345> bastard
#1460 [12:44] <Shadow386> whoever did was smart with the response
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#1462 [12:45] <xales> Sinnersaix: What username did you use?
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#1464 [12:45] <Sinnersaix> same i use here
#1465 [12:45] <xales> Shadow386: I made my bot :)
#1466 [12:45] <xales> .haspaid Sinnersaix
#1467 [12:45] <VoteSlave> Sinnersaix has paid for Minecraft!
#1468 [12:45] <Shadow386> :P
#1469 [12:45] <Shadow386> brb
#1470 [12:45] <xales> .part #minecrafthelp
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#1473 [12:45] <lukegb> .haspaid lukegb
#1474 [12:45] <lukegb> sadface
#1475 [12:45] <xales> Kealper: You bot lets me part him
#1476 [12:46] <xales> your*
#1477 [12:46] <Sinnersaix> wohooo
#1478 [12:46] <xales> !enable
#1479 [12:46] <Sinnersaix> i paid for mc ^^
#1480 [12:46] <xales> !reload mod_mchelp
#1481 [12:46] <xales> :O
#1482 [12:46] <xales> .motd
#1483 [12:47] <lukegb> .part #minecrafthelp
#1484 [12:47] <lukegb> [17:48:15] *AuBot* AuBot Internal Error [Code 0x02] | User not found in Autorized Users section of the database.
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#1486 [12:47] <xales> .chanoff
#1487 [12:47] <VoteSlave> Channel commands disabled
#1488 [12:47] <lukegb> loving the failspelling there
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#1492 [12:49] <xales> .bap lukegb
#1493 [12:49] * VoteSlave baps lukegb violently
#1493 [12:49] <lukegb> .bap xales
#1494 [12:49] <lukegb> D:
#1495 [12:50] <xales> lol
#1496 [12:50] <xales> .whoami
#1497 [12:50] <VoteSlave> You are "xales" with flags +zo
#1498 [12:50] <xales> :)
#1499 [12:50] <lukegb> .whoareyou
#1500 [12:50] <lukegb> :P
#1501 [12:50] <lukegb> also
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#1503 [12:50] <lukegb> xales: "Channel commands disabled"? I THINK NOT :P
#1504 [12:51] <xales> :P
#1505 [12:51] <xales> I turned em back on
#1506 [12:51] <xales> 12:49:38 <xales> chanon
#1507 [12:51] <xales> 12:49:39 <VoteSlave> Channel commands enabled
#1508 [12:51] <xales> anyway
#1509 [12:52] <Captain_Caracho> hey miners! I tried to run my own Server with "MCServer" but apparently it had problems running the server-jar. Which Server-GUI would you guys recommend?
#1510 [12:52] * xales goes afk
#1510 [12:52] * xales pokes Shadow386 to help Captain_Caracho
#1510 [12:52] <xales> Captain_Caracho: None of them. They are all bad, except for Mcmyadmin, pretty much
#1511 [12:53] <xales> anyway
#1512 [12:53] * xales goes afk
#1512 [12:53] <Shadow386> wuts happening?
#1513 [12:53] <Captain_Caracho> additional info: I do not run Linux. Just want some basic options like giving a player some items on click or ingame command. Any idea?
#1514 [12:54] <Captain_Caracho> hmmm ok i'll try that one.
#1515 [12:54] <Captain_Caracho> thanks
#1516 [12:54] <Captain_Caracho> and sorry again xales :<
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#1518 [12:55] <mbentley> yay finally took the time to write out the steps to install sun-java6-jre on ubuntu using command line only
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#1520 [12:55] <bob_marley> hey
#1521 [12:55] <bob_marley> i cant conect to mc.net ??
#1522 [12:55] <mbentley> tired of having to keep guessing on some steps...
#1523 [12:55] <bob_marley> always error of stupid cprogram ?
#1524 [12:56] <SirDinosaur> Is there any way to have more than one world on an SMP server? Like one for the public, one for select people etc.? I'm sure I've been on a server before which had a '/world' command.
#1525 [12:56] <bob_marley> #nlminecraft
#1526 [12:56] <bob_marley> thts a serv :p
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#1529 [12:56] <Sinnersaix> is there a list of command in the game ?
#1530 [12:57] <mbentley> /help
#1531 [12:57] <Frostie> Hi, does anyone maybe know why Minecraft fails to connect to my friend's server (for him too) while it was working perfectly fine yesterday? We've port-forwarded everything and haven't changed anything on the server ._.
#1532 [12:57] <Sinnersaix> ok and how so i open the chat console? enter?
#1533 [12:57] <mbentley> Frostie: get any errors?
#1534 [12:57] <Sinnersaix> frsotei= automated ip adress for your pc's maybe? =)
#1535 [12:58] <Kade> I'm guessing its a server on a network at your friend's place Frostie ?
#1536 [12:58] <Frostie> Kade: I believe so
#1537 [12:59] <Kade> then yeah, check whether what Sinnersaix has changed at his end
#1538 [12:59] <Frostie> +mbentley: "Connection timed out: connect" is what I get, not sure what my friend gets ima just ask him when he's back
#1539 [12:59] <mbentley> yeah, could be his 'server' uses DHCP and the local IP may have changed...
#1540 [12:59] <Captain_Caracho> agree
#1541 [12:59] <Kade> that does seem the most likely answer
#1542 [13:00] <mbentley> would be my first guess if everything was working fine before
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#1544 [13:00] <Sinnersaix> ok how can i find server ips ?
#1545 [13:00] <Captain_Caracho> --> /ipconfig and enter the new ip.
#1546 [13:00] <Captain_Caracho> press WINDOWS+R and type cmd
#1547 [13:00] <Captain_Caracho> --> ENTER
#1548 [13:01] <Captain_Caracho> and then ipconfig
#1549 [13:01] <Captain_Caracho> if you can read, you will find the IP for sure. ;) But do this on the server running PC :D
#1550 [13:02] <Frostie> According to my friend the local IP hasn't changed >.<
#1551 [13:03] <Captain_Caracho> do you use some special software to run the server?
#1552 [13:03] <Captain_Caracho> or just the server.jar ?
#1553 [13:03] <Frostie> Only the one provided
#1554 [13:03] <Captain_Caracho> have you entered a server ip in the properties file?
#1555 [13:04] <Frostie> nö
#1556 [13:04] <Frostie> *no
#1557 [13:04] <Captain_Caracho> hm...
#1558 [13:06] <Captain_Caracho> Sorry that was all I could do. Dont have any knowledge about that. I also came to ask about running a server ^^
#1559 [13:06] <Captain_Caracho> Hope someone solves this. :\
#1560 [13:06] <Frostie> thanks anyhow ^^
#1561 [13:07] <mbentley> your friend sure the server is running? :D
#1562 [13:07] <mbentley> wan ip change?
#1563 [13:07] <mbentley> have them check at http://www.whatismyip.org
#1564 [13:08] <Frostie> it should be running, because it loads up to the "For help lardi lardi la..."
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#1566 [13:12] <dopeghoti>  From the server, go to www.canyouseeme.org, and punch in '25565' into the port field, and check the result
#1567 [13:14] <Frostie> didn't work, said connection timed out
#1568 [13:14] <dopeghoti> Then the problam is either with a firewall or improper port forwarding.
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#1574 [13:27] <elmo> :@
#1575 [13:27] * elmo is pissed
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#1576 [13:27] <elmo> Minecraft don't work in neither Linux or Wine
#1577 [13:29] <ponakka> but for mac it purrrfect
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#1579 [13:33] <mbentley> elmo: why do you say that?
#1580 [13:33] <mbentley> 1.) lol @ wine
#1581 [13:34] <mbentley> minecraft runs fine for me under linux
#1582 [13:34] <mbentley> you shouldn't have to run anything java based under wine unless the developer won't release a jar
#1583 [13:35] <SFX_Acidic> Question
#1584 [13:35] <SFX_Acidic> How do I connect to my server
#1585 [13:35] <SFX_Acidic> I have everything working and setup
#1586 [13:35] <mbentley> server and client on same machine?
#1587 [13:35] <mbentley> use 'localhost' or '127.0.0.1
#1588 [13:35] <SFX_Acidic> I type my IP and it tells me refused: connect
#1589 [13:35] <SFX_Acidic> yes btw
#1590 [13:36] <mbentley> for everyone else, make sure you have port forwarding set up properly and give them your public ip address
#1591 [13:36] <SFX_Acidic> * crosses fingers *
#1592 [13:40] <SFX_Acidic> thx
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#1594 [13:43] <elmo> mbentley: want GFX do you use?
#1595 [13:43] <mbentley> nvidia 8800gts
#1596 [13:43] <elmo> what*
#1597 [13:43] <elmo> Yeah
#1598 [13:43] <elmo> Minecraft runs fine under Nvidia
#1599 [13:43] <elmo> not under ATI
#1600 [13:43] <mbentley> why i will never buy ati cards...
#1601 [13:43] <mbentley> ati + linux = failtrain
#1602 [13:43] <elmo> that's why i thought the Wine-solution would go
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#1604 [13:44] <mbentley> it is probably a opengl issue
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#1606 [13:44] <elmo> mbentley: it wasn't suppose that i was using Linux on the computer
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#1608 [13:45] <mbentley> elmo: have the ati drivers installed from their site?
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#1610 [13:45] <mbentley> you will definitely need the proprietary drivers
#1611 [13:46] <elmo> mbentley: i use the recommended drives that my software maneger recommended
#1612 [13:46] <elmo> mbentley: and i'm not the only people with this problem
#1613 [13:46] <mbentley> well what error are you getting?
#1614 [13:46] <elmo> i've checked several forums with same problem
#1615 [13:46] <elmo> mbentley: don't remember it in my head
#1616 [13:47] <elmo> however, it's because of the ATI-card and driver
#1617 [13:48] <mbentley> i'll just have to take your word for it then :)
#1618 [13:48] <elmo> Kinda sad :(
#1619 [13:48] <elmo> Bought the game couple of days ago
#1620 [13:48] <elmo> worked fine on my Windows machine
#1621 [13:49] <mbentley> blame ati (amd) for having poor linux support
#1622 [13:49] <mbentley> i hear it is better but not where it needs to be
#1623 [13:49] <elmo> mbentley: yeah, that to!
#1624 [13:49] <mbentley> if i had an error, i might be able to assist or at least try
#1625 [13:49] <elmo> mbentley: let me fire it up
#1626 [13:49] <elmo> like i use to say, it can't get worse ;p
#1627 [13:49] <mbentley> you might try to remove the drivers from ubuntu and then try to use the drivers from their website...
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#1629 [13:51] <elmo> mbentley: i'm using Linux Mint
#1630 [13:51] <mbentley> ah gotcha
#1631 [13:51] <elmo> mbentley: http://pastebin.com/E5T174Xf
#1632 [13:52] <elmo> there u got the dum
#1633 [13:52] <elmo> p
#1634 [13:52] <mbentley> sounds like the module isn't cooperating
#1635 [13:53] <elmo> i got the same answer yesterday
#1636 [13:54] <mbentley> only thing i can suggest would be the drivers from amd.com
#1637 [13:55] <elmo> mbentley: i'll try it!
#1638 [13:56] <mbentley> but yeah, just make sure to remove the drivers installed by mint before installing them
#1639 [13:56] <mbentley> otherwise they will probably interfere with each other
#1640 [13:56] <elmo> mbentley: doing it atm ;)
#1641 [13:57] <elmo> Just went on Additional Drivers, marked the graphic driver and choose Remove
#1642 [13:57] <elmo> that'll do it?
#1643 [13:58] <mbentley> yes
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#1645 [13:59] <froglegstew> hello
#1646 [13:59] <mbentley> hello
#1647 [13:59] <froglegstew> i've got a problem
#1648 [13:59] <mbentley> ok
#1649 [14:00] <froglegstew> a friend bought me an gift code but it says it's incorect or already been used
#1650 [14:00] <mbentley> have your friend check their profile @ minecraft.net
#1651 [14:01] <froglegstew> how do you mean ? do you speak ger =
#1652 [14:01] <froglegstew> ?
#1653 [14:01] <mbentley> sorry, english only
#1654 [14:01] <froglegstew> ok
#1655 [14:01] <mbentley> i think someone else speaks german here...
#1656 [14:02] <dopeghoti> Ich kann ein bischien Deutschsrpache.
#1657 [14:02] <froglegstew> when he bought the code it says that the servers are overloaded
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#1659 [14:03] <elmo> mbentley: let's try it again!
#1660 [14:03] <elmo> rebooted the system
#1661 [14:03] <froglegstew> ??
#1662 [14:04] <froglegstew> what should i do ?
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#1664 [14:05] <Ghoulunatic> quick question about an SMP server..
#1665 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Shoot.
#1666 [14:05] <Ghoulunatic> is there any way to implement a minimap in a beta server?
#1667 [14:05] <Ghoulunatic> any known mods or anything/
#1668 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I'm not aware of any..
#1669 [14:05] <Shadow386> not in the server itself
#1670 [14:05] <Shadow386> in clients yes
#1671 [14:05] <Shadow386> but no mod talk from what I know here :3
#1672 [14:05] <Ghoulunatic> hmm...ok
#1673 [14:06] <Ghoulunatic> so the minimap mod would work client side?
#1674 [14:06] <froglegstew> Hello again, a friend bought me a gift cod but it says that it's incorrect or already been used
#1675 [14:06] <Shadow386> mhm
#1676 [14:06] <Ghoulunatic> i thought i read that client mods wouldn't work on a server, maybe i misunderstood it
#1677 [14:06] <Shadow386> SOME dont
#1678 [14:06] <Ghoulunatic> ah, ok
#1679 [14:06] <Shadow386> like blocks and other hacks. some do such as GUI related stuff
#1680 [14:06] <Shadow386> or lighting
#1681 [14:06] <Ghoulunatic> gotcha
#1682 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Ghoulunatic - Looks like there is one for bukkit: http://www.minecraftam.com/MM.aspx
#1683 [14:07] <froglegstew> pls help me
#1684 [14:07] <elmo> mbentley: ain't working
#1685 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> froglegstew - mbentley told you that your friend might have it on his profile page
#1686 [14:07] <mbentley> you sure you installed the drivers from amd.com properly?
#1687 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Have him check his profile page at minecraft.net froglegstew
#1688 [14:07] <elmo> mbentley: yes
#1689 [14:07] <elmo> 110% sure
#1690 [14:07] <mbentley> darn
#1691 [14:08] <Ghoulunatic> ok.
#1692 [14:08] <mbentley> sorry about your luck with ati/amd :(
#1693 [14:08] <mbentley> their lack of progress is disappointing to me
#1694 [14:08] <Ghoulunatic> will bukkit work with beta servers?
#1695 [14:08] <elmo> mbentley: i don't know if it's the same crash report
#1696 [14:08] <elmo> wanna check it?
#1697 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> bukkit is in development for beta servers. It's by the same devs that previously made hmod
#1698 [14:08] <Ghoulunatic> i see
#1699 [14:09] <Ghoulunatic> oh! another question
#1700 [14:09] <elmo> mbentley: http://pastebin.com/NWTqP7e0
#1701 [14:09] <elmo> if you want
#1702 [14:09] <Ghoulunatic> when you're playing a multiplayer server, does the game save the world locally?
#1703 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1704 [14:09] <Ghoulunatic> ok
#1705 [14:09] <Ghoulunatic> i'm running an SMP server on an old computer of mine, and copying the world to a flash drive is slow as balls
#1706 [14:10] <elmo> GreyVulpine: Remember me from yesterday? I had trouble with Minecraft working in Linux?
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#1708 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that stinkin ATI driver on linux
#1709 [14:10] <Ghoulunatic> i copy it so i can run Cartograph from time to time, just to see what a map would look like
#1710 [14:10] <elmo> GreyVulpine: i tried to install AMD's driver from their homepage
#1711 [14:10] <elmo> still not working :(
#1712 [14:10] <mbentley> sucks
#1713 [14:10] * GreyVulpine nods
#1713 [14:10] <elmo> nor with Minecraft working in Wine
#1714 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Ghoulunatic - Why are you copying it onto a flash drive?
#1715 [14:11] <mbentley> if it won't work natively in linux, it won't work in wine
#1716 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Can't you use cartographer with the files already on your hard drive?
#1717 [14:11] <Ghoulunatic> GreyVulpine: well, yes, but I guarantee that the computer i'm running my server on wouldn't run Cartograph :P
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#1719 [14:13] <elmo> mbentley: so it's basiclly hopeless to get it working?
#1720 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Ghoulunatic - Then compare it to zipping up the world folder, copying one file to your flash drive, and unzipping it on the computer you have cartograph on
#1721 [14:13] <mbentley> to the best of my knowledge, it's looking that way.
#1722 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> With no compression, of course.
#1723 [14:13] <elmo> GreyVulpine: what do you think?
#1724 [14:13] <Ghoulunatic> right, hmm
#1725 [14:13] <mbentley> looking for solutions online though elmo
#1726 [14:14] <elmo> mbentley: tryin' the same
#1727 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> elmo - I'm sorry, I don't really know. We've had a number of ATI/*nix users come through here with that problem, and I can't say I've found a solution since then.
#1728 [14:14] <elmo> >:|
#1729 [14:14] <elmo> :(
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#1731 [14:16] <ferminter> Hi
#1732 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1733 [14:17] <ferminter> all future updates also included in the beta? or only in alpha?
#1734 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Both
#1735 [14:17] <ferminter> kk ty;)
#1736 [14:17] <elmo> mbentley: looks dark, huh?
#1737 [14:18] <mbentley> indeed
#1738 [14:18] <elmo> :@@@@
#1739 [14:18] <SirDinosaur> Any way to make /warps private?
#1740 [14:18] <elmo> Have bought a game for 140SEK and without givin' a shit :'<
#1741 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> You'd have to ask that in the appropriate modding channel SirDinosaur, #bukkit ?
#1742 [14:19] <SirDinosaur> Oh, ok, sorry. And no, it's hMod.
#1743 [14:19] <SirDinosaur> :P
#1744 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> Ah, sorry, hmod development has been discontinued.
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#1747 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> I don't really know who you can go to for that, #hey0's pretty much a ghost town righ tnow
#1748 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Can't you edit groups.txt to change permissions for /warp ?
#1749 [14:21] <KillSpammer> I haven't heard anyone talk about hey0 for ages
#1750 [14:21] <elmo> mbentley: tho' shouldn't the webclient work?
#1751 [14:21] <feenyx> hey0 threw in the towel
#1752 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> I haven't touched hey0 since bukkit's concept and inception
#1753 [14:21] <feenyx> it's not developed anymore
#1754 [14:21] <mbentley> elmo: doubtful
#1755 [14:22] <mbentley> uses the same files basically
#1756 [14:22] <elmo> T____T
#1757 [14:22] <elmo> won't get back to Windows, srsly
#1758 [14:22] <mbentley> if it was me, i would sell the ati card
#1759 [14:22] <SirDinosaur> Yeah, I'm just going to disable access to /warp for certain people
#1760 [14:23] <elmo> mbentley: won't do that cause of a game lol
#1761 [14:23] <mbentley> i would do it because it's ati/amd and their drivers suck
#1762 [14:23] <elmo> if it works good in general, i don't see why to sell it
#1763 [14:24] <elmo> mbentley: won't an Open Source driver fix it then?
#1764 [14:24] <mbentley> well afaik there really isn't an open source driver for the latest ati stuff
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#1766 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Oh wait.. didn't I link you a page to an open source driver yesterday?
#1767 [14:24] <mbentley> but i don't follow ati driver development closely or anything
#1768 [14:24] <elmo> GreyVulpine: you didn't find the download
#1769 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> That's right...
#1770 [14:25] <elmo> I guess it was only a review
#1771 [14:25] <elmo> or something like it
#1772 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
#1773 [14:25] * GreyVulpine pokes?
#1773 [14:26] <ferminter> does someone know how long beta lasts?
#1774 [14:26] <mbentley> would have something to do with the kernel version that mint is running too
#1775 [14:26] <elmo> GreyVulpine: hmmm
#1776 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> ferminter - We have no date on when beta ends
#1777 [14:26] <mbentley> ati drivers + new kernel = not working ?
#1778 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_r500_expanded&num=1
#1779 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> There was the article on open source ATI drivers
#1780 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> I couldn't find a driver download link
#1781 [14:27] <elmo> mbentley: so you think i need to start mixing up the kernel?
#1782 [14:27] <mbentley> maybe. not really sure though as i don't have any ati cards anymore
#1783 [14:27] <mbentley> purely guessing
#1784 [14:28] <mbentley> but it could be that amd just hasn't updated drivers to work properly with the latest kernel
#1785 [14:28] <mbentley> small changes in the kernel can definitely break 3rd party drivers like that
#1786 [14:28] <elmo> hmm
#1787 [14:28] <elmo> GreyVulpine: what do you think about mbentleys conclusion?
#1788 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> He knows more about *nix than I do.
#1789 [14:29] <elmo> darn
#1790 [14:29] <mbentley> you can always install an older kernel and it would just add it to the boot menu upon startup
#1791 [14:29] <mbentley> but like i said, i would have thought that someone would have figured that out if it was that easy
#1792 [14:29] <lukegb> wait, what
#1793 [14:30] <mbentley> well, i guess i never said that before, but that is my assumption
#1794 [14:30] <mbentley> :D
#1795 [14:30] <lukegb> ATI drivers work with 2.6.37-5
#1796 [14:30] <mbentley> apparently not working for everyone in minecraft
#1797 [14:30] <lukegb> How do I know this? Because I use Arch Linux *puts on cool shades*
#1798 [14:30] <elmo> lukegb: i run 2.6.35-22
#1799 [14:30] <elmo> lukegb: and u can play minecraft? D:
#1800 [14:30] <lukegb> Yup.
#1801 [14:30] <elmo> the fuck?!
#1802 [14:31] <lukegb> elmo: pastebin the output of uname -a && lsmod -v && cat /var/log/X*/X*.log
#1803 [14:31] <elmo> mbentley: he's using a newer kernel
#1804 [14:31] <mbentley> i am just throwing out guesses here
#1805 [14:31] <mbentley> i really can only help so much without having the same hardware
#1806 [14:31] <lukegb> mbentley: tbh, ATI linux driver support's pretty decent#
#1807 [14:32] <elmo> lukegb: where do i find the log ? :E
#1808 [14:32] <mbentley> from what i hear it is decent but compared to nvidia...
#1809 [14:32] <elmo> under /var/log/X*/X*.log?
#1810 [14:32] <lukegb> elmo: literally, just run that entire line
#1811 [14:32] <lukegb> as root
#1812 [14:32] * mbentley pokes his vps running 2.6.9
#1812 [14:32] <lukegb> mbentley: really? nvidia seems to suck :P
#1813 [14:32] <lukegb> when I tried it I couldn't get the damn thing to work
#1814 [14:32] <lukegb> whereas ATI was just a simple package install and the whole thing fell together
#1815 [14:33] <mbentley> i will have to take your word on that...
#1816 [14:33] <mbentley> i have never had a major problem i wasn't able to resolve when installing the nvidia drivers
#1817 [14:33] <lukegb> I have. X would make my kernel panic.
#1818 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> lukegb - I gotta go with mbentley on this one. #MineCraftHelp has seen a lot more ATI and *nix interaction than nvidia
#1819 [14:33] <elmo> lukegb: i don't get anything from it? :s
#1820 [14:33] <elmo> Linux gudrun 2.6.35-22-generic-pae #35-Ubuntu SMP Sat Oct 16 22:16:51 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
#1821 [14:33] <elmo> Usage: lsmod
#1822 [14:33] <elmo> that's all
#1823 [14:33] <lukegb> doh
#1824 [14:33] <lukegb> :P
#1825 [14:34] <lukegb> elmo: pastebin the output of uname -a && lsmod && cat /var/log/X*/X*.log
#1826 [14:34] <elmo> lukegb: i don't get any output?!
#1827 [14:34] <lukegb> That's better. Result of me changing my mind about what commands to run :P
#1828 [14:34] <lukegb> I changed a bit
#1829 [14:34] <elmo> sorry for my stupidity :(
#1830 [14:35] <elmo> lukegb: http://pastebin.com/9SJtt1y2
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#1832 [14:35] <mbentley> fglrx
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#1834 [14:35] <mbentley> that stands out to me...
#1835 [14:36] <lukegb> mbentley: that's the ATI kernel driver
#1836 [14:36] <lukegb> >_>
#1837 [14:36] <mbentley> yeah
#1838 [14:36] <lukegb> elmo: it's an AGP card?
#1839 [14:36] <elmo> lukegb: HD5770
#1840 [14:38] <lukegb> elmo: so what's actually wrong, what's minecraft reporting?
#1841 [14:38] <lukegb> It's a loooong scrollback :P
#1842 [14:38] <elmo> lukegb: you want the crash report?
#1843 [14:38] <mbentley> http://pastebin.com/NWTqP7e0
#1844 [14:38] <elmo> mbentley: thanks <3
#1845 [14:38] <mbentley> np
#1846 [14:39] <lukegb> oh look, syscall fail
#1847 [14:40] <elmo> lukegb: and by that you can say... ?
#1848 [14:40] <elmo> :D
#1849 [14:40] <lukegb> elmo: /var/log/Xorg.0.log? :)
#1850 [14:42] <elmo> http://pastebin.com/8KzDBMs8
#1851 [14:42] <elmo> lukegb: ^
#1852 [14:43] <elmo> If you'll get this to work, i'll personally search you up and give you a kiss straight on the mouth /gaylove/
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#1854 [14:44] <Portality> Hello
#1855 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1856 [14:45] <Ghoulunatic> i thought of something else GreyVulpine :P
#1857 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1858 [14:45] <Ghoulunatic> whenever i had my fog at the lowest setting, i sometimes have a blackscreen crash
#1859 [14:45] <Ghoulunatic> is there any way to combat that without taking the fog up a notch?
#1860 [14:46] <mbentley> i don't see anything that sticks out in that log elmo
#1861 [14:46] <mbentley> seems like the modules are loading ok at least
#1862 [14:46] <lukegb> neither do I
#1863 [14:46] <elmo> :(
#1864 [14:47] <elmo> lukegb: any other conclusions?
#1865 [14:47] <elmo> it's funny how you can run it, and i don't
#1866 [14:47] <lukegb> heh
#1867 [14:47] <lukegb> it's 'cos I'm awesome like that
#1868 [14:47] <mbentley> difference in cards
#1869 [14:47] <mbentley> other utils
#1870 [14:47] <mbentley> so many variables
#1871 [14:47] <elmo> lukegb: give awesomeness
#1872 [14:47] <lukegb> ^
#1873 [14:48] <elmo> lukegb: what card do you use then?
#1874 [14:48] <lukegb> elmo: do you have an Xorg.conf?
#1875 [14:48] <elmo> lukegb: i should have
#1876 [14:48] <lukegb> go check
#1877 [14:48] <lukegb> And I have an HD4600 :P
#1878 [14:48] <elmo> lukegb: where could it be located?
#1879 [14:48] <lukegb> /etc/X11/
#1880 [14:48] <lukegb> probably
#1881 [14:49] <elmo> http://pastebin.com/6ETgrbX8
#1882 [14:49] <lukegb> I'm made somewhat suspicious by the 8.81.5
#1883 [14:49] <elmo> there u go
#1884 [14:50] <lukegb> Since the latest version of fglrx SORRY CATALYST is 11.1
#1885 [14:50] <elmo> wat?
#1886 [14:50] <elmo> D:
#1887 [14:50] <mbentley> elmo: did you install these >> http://tinyurl.com/yheqjqq
#1888 [14:51] <elmo> mbentley: i installed the x86
#1889 [14:51] <elmo> not the x86_64
#1890 [14:51] <mbentley> same download...
#1891 [14:51] <elmo> that's the problem?
#1892 [14:51] <elmo> oh
#1893 [14:51] <elmo> :3
#1894 [14:51] <lukegb> elmo: ah, let's see, my module is older: 8.80.5
#1895 [14:51] <elmo> and we can't change the module? :(
#1896 [14:52] <lukegb> lol: [ 32.356] (--) Creative Technology Creative USB Headset: Found 8 mouse buttons
#1897 [14:53] <elmo> in my log?!
#1898 [14:53] <elmo> o_O
#1899 [14:53] <lukegb> in mine :P
#1900 [14:53] <elmo> *pew*
#1901 [14:53] <lukegb> also
#1902 [14:53] <elmo> thought "WTF did Creative came from?!"
#1903 [14:53] <lukegb> elmo: you're running X.Org X Server 1.9.0, I'm running X.Org X Server 1.9.3.901 (1.9.4 RC 1)
#1904 [14:53] <elmo> lukegb: shall i try to update it?
#1905 [14:53] <lukegb> ...no
#1906 [14:54] <lukegb> mine also says This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation.
#1907 [14:54] <lukegb> It is not supported in any way.
#1908 [14:54] <elmo> So i'm doomed?
#1909 [14:54] <mbentley> it's that whole different apps, etc
#1910 [14:54] <lukegb> ^
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#1912 [14:54] <lukegb> elmo: tried updating lwjgl?
#1913 [14:54] <elmo> in short words: doomed
#1914 [14:55] <elmo> lukegb: nope D:
#1915 [14:55] <lukegb> cd ~/.minecraft/natives
#1916 [14:55] <elmo> tho' i reinstalled Java few times
#1917 [14:55] <lukegb> are you a 64-bitter?
#1918 [14:55] <mbentley> elmo: x86
#1919 [14:55] <elmo> and rm -rf ~/.minecraft a few times
#1920 [14:55] <mbentley> i saw i686 in the uname output
#1921 [14:56] <lukegb> also I fail
#1922 [14:56] <lukegb> cd ~/.minecraft/bin/natives/
#1923 [14:56] <elmo> lukegb: next step?
#1924 [14:56] <lukegb> rm *.so
#1925 [14:57] <elmo> and start up minecraft again?
#1926 [14:57] <lukegb> no
#1927 [14:57] <elmo> apt-get install lwjgl* ?
#1928 [14:57] <lukegb> no...
#1929 [14:57] <lukegb> gimme a sec
#1930 [14:57] <lukegb> I'm typing :P
#1931 [14:57] <elmo> soz for interuptin'
#1932 [14:59] <lukegb> wget --no-check-certificate http://s.lukegb.com/lwjgl-i686-latest && wget --no-check-certificate http://s.lukegb.com/openal-i686-latest && wget --no-check-certificate http://s.lukegb.com/jinput-i686-latest
#1933 [14:59] <lukegb> oops
#1934 [14:59] <lukegb> don't do that, wget will muck it up
#1935 [15:00] <elmo> lukegb: in that moment a 'Do'h' would be in it's place ;p
#1936 [15:00] <lukegb> wget --no-check-certificate -O liblwjgl.so http://s.lukegb.com/lwjgl-i686-latest && wget --no-check-certificate -O libopenal.so http://s.lukegb.com/openal-i686-latest && wget --no-check-certificate -O libjinput-linux.so http://s.lukegb.com/jinput-i686-latest
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#1938 [15:01] <elmo> like that
#1939 [15:01] <elmo> and now, i'll start minecraft?
#1940 [15:01] <elmo> :D
#1941 [15:02] <lukegb> no.
#1942 [15:02] <lukegb> now gimme a minute
#1943 [15:03] <elmo> ofcourse!
#1944 [15:03] <lukegb> this probably won't work
#1945 [15:03] <lukegb> just to avoid raising your hopes :P
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#1947 [15:04] <elmo> lukegb: always worth a try!
#1948 [15:04] <lukegb> elmo: oh, can you pastebin the output of ls -la please?
#1949 [15:04] <elmo> sure
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#1951 [15:05] <elmo> lukegb: http://pastebin.com/cHX0tRZi
#1952 [15:05] <lukegb> ...did you close the terminal window you entered wget into?
#1953 [15:05] <lukegb> ls -la ~/.minecraft/bin/ ~/.minecraft/bin/natives/
#1954 [15:06] <elmo> lukegb: no? D:
#1955 [15:06] <lukegb> pastebin this then :P ls -la ~/.minecraft/bin/ ~/.minecraft/bin/natives/
#1956 [15:07] <elmo> http://pastebin.com/nP7n5f2T
#1957 [15:07] <elmo> sorry!
#1958 [15:07] <elmo> forget the bin :E
#1959 [15:07] <lukegb> gah, don't worry
#1960 [15:08] <elmo> lukegb: http://pastebin.com/uaV1FTQ0
#1961 [15:08] <elmo> full
#1962 [15:08] <lukegb> rm ~/.minecraft/bin/jinput.jar ~/.minecraft/bin/lwjgl*.jar
#1963 [15:08] <lukegb> and then...
#1964 [15:09] <lukegb> cd ~/.minecraft/bin && wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/402958/ForINTERWEBS/lwjgl/jinput.jar && wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/402958/ForINTERWEBS/lwjgl/lwjgl.jar && wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/402958/ForINTERWEBS/lwjgl/lwjgl_util.jar && echo ALLDONE
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#1967 [15:10] <elmo> lukegb: done
#1968 [15:10] <lukegb> okay, now rerun ls -la ~/.minecraft/bin/ ~/.minecraft/bin/natives/ and repastebin :)
#1969 [15:11] <elmo> lukegb: http://pastebin.com/2REyvNBj
#1970 [15:11] <lukegb> NOW rerun minecraft :P
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#1972 [15:12] <elmo> lukegb: :(
#1973 [15:13] <lukegb> fail
#1974 [15:13] <elmo> lukegb: darn
#1975 [15:13] <lukegb> how are you running minecraft?
#1976 [15:13] <elmo> lukegb: via terminal
#1977 [15:13] <elmo> java -jar minecraft.jar
#1978 [15:14] <lukegb> what happens if you: java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -cp "~/.minecraft/bin/*" -Djava.library.path="~/.minecraft/bin/natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft
#1979 [15:15] <elmo> lukegb: http://pastebin.com/wJ7NGmn4
#1980 [15:15] <lukegb> brap.
#1981 [15:16] <lukegb> what happens if you: java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -cp ~/.minecraft/bin/lwjgl.jar:~/.minecraft/bin/lwjgl_util.jar:~/.minecraft/bin/jinput.jar:~/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar -Djava.library.path="~/.minecraft/bin/natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft
#1982 [15:16] <lukegb> :P
#1983 [15:17] <elmo> lukegb: same error D:
#1984 [15:17] <lukegb> ffuuuu :P
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#1986 [15:17] <elmo> Does it have anything to do with my Java?
#1987 [15:18] <lukegb> Nope, it's me
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#1989 [15:18] <elmo> lukegb: i see
#1990 [15:23] <elmo> lukegb: feeling like it's kinda doomed atm. :(
#1991 [15:23] <lukegb> I'd say try the OSS driver :P
#1992 [15:23] <elmo> OSS?
#1993 [15:23] <elmo> :E
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#1995 [15:28] <elmo> lukegb: you got any spare time left?
#1996 [15:28] <lukegb> elmo: a bit.
#1997 [15:28] <elmo> isn't OSS something with the sound? :E
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#1999 [15:36] <emery> what is the typical memory usage for minecraft?
#2000 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Give or take a gig
#2001 [15:39] <emery> ok, thats what I've been getting
#2002 [15:39] <elmo> GreyVulpine: seems like a dead end
#2003 [15:39] <elmo> fuck i'm sad
#2004 [15:40] <elmo> :'<
#2005 [15:40] * elmo turn on some sad songs on Spotify
#2005 [15:40] <feenyx> man, I need to recruit some more friends to mc
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#2007 [15:43] <emery> man I hate java
#2008 [15:45] <elmo> emery: you are not the only one!
#2009 [15:46] <elmo> I've been tryin' to get MC workin' with my ATI card and Linux Mint since yesterday
#2010 [15:46] <elmo> and i have no frikin' idea what the problem is
#2011 [15:46] <elmo> :(
#2012 [15:46] <emery> I'm running it with ATI on gentoo
#2013 [15:46] <elmo> emery: HOW?!
#2014 [15:46] <mbentley> i know what the problem is
#2015 [15:46] <elmo> :(
#2016 [15:46] <mbentley> the ati card
#2017 [15:46] <mbentley> :D
#2018 [15:46] <elmo> mbentley: damn u! :(
#2019 [15:46] <elmo> :D
#2020 [15:46] <emery> elmo: what is it doing
#2021 [15:46] <elmo> emery: what card do you use?
#2022 [15:47] <emery> I don't know I friend gave it to me
#2023 [15:47] <elmo> emery: MC is keep crashing
#2024 [15:47] <elmo> can't even fire it up
#2025 [15:47] <elmo> before it crashes
#2026 [15:47] <emery> it won't render anything?
#2027 [15:48] <elmo> emery: it render the "start screen"
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#2029 [15:48] <elmo> but when i'll try to fire SP or MP up it crashes
#2030 [15:48] <emery> did you try running it in a terminal
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#2033 [15:49] <elmo> emery: ofcourse ;p
#2034 [15:49] <elmo> java -jar minecraft.jar
#2035 [15:49] <elmo> ain't working
#2036 [15:49] <emery> did it give you exceptions
#2037 [15:49] <elmo> neither with exeptions
#2038 [15:50] <emery> wierd
#2039 [15:50] <elmo> xms1024 wtc
#2040 [15:50] <elmo> etc*
#2041 [15:50] <elmo> i assum you mean
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#2043 [15:50] <elmo> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/2680-Minecraft <3
#2044 [15:50] <Wilco> whats the channel for craftbukkit help?
#2045 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> #bukkit
#2046 [15:51] <Wilco> thank you
#2047 [15:52] <emery> elmo: I downloaded it on to an ubuntu machine and it worked out of the box. With gentoo you can install from the package manager and that worked for me
#2048 [15:53] <elmo> emery: so it works with your ubuntu machine? D:
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#2050 [15:53] <emery> It worked better on ubuntu than gentoo, but it wasn't my ubuntu machine
#2051 [15:54] <elmo> aha
#2052 [15:54] <elmo> And you said you could get Minecraft from the package manager? D:
#2053 [15:54] <Vortex_v> hmm.. it seems minecraft is rebooting my machine when a server in smp isn't responding :/
#2054 [15:55] <emery> elmo: yeah, gentoo runs mc in some sort of special environment, I'm tring to figure out what it is right now
#2055 [15:56] <elmo> o_O
#2056 [15:56] <elmo> maybe you got some kind of epic-source-of-gaming-source?
#2057 [15:56] <elmo> :D
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#2060 [16:00] <emery> I think MC downloads some libraries when you first run it, gentoo installs its prefered versions of those libraries and tricks MC into using those
#2061 [16:02] <emery> elmo: those libraries being jinput and lwjgl
#2062 [16:04] <elmo> emery: me and lukegb tried that
#2063 [16:04] <elmo> didn't work
#2064 [16:05] <lukegb> Well, I tried updating it
#2065 [16:05] <elmo> oh, okey!
#2066 [16:07] <elmo> emery: but what to do with those libs?
#2067 [16:07] <elmo> D:
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#2069 [16:08] <emery> elmo: MC seems to download libs to ~/.minecraft/bin/natives
#2070 [16:08] <matbee> Is it possible to get an account transferred to a new email?
#2071 [16:09] <elmo> emery: yarr
#2072 [16:09] <elmo> so... what to do D:
#2073 [16:09] <elmo> i'm kinda lost tbh.
#2074 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> I'm not sure you can, but try sending an email to daniel@mojang.com for that matbee
#2075 [16:10] <xolotl> (fwiw, btw, Gentoo itself does not have a Minecraft ebuild and will thus not do anything special with it.)
#2076 [16:10] <xolotl> (if you're using some overlay which *does* include a Minecraft ebuild, then maybe they're doing some library trickery, yeah. :)
#2077 [16:10] <emery> xolotl: it's in the java-overlay
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#2079 [16:11] <elmo> argh, i'm sad
#2080 [16:11] <elmo> i wanna play :(
#2081 [16:11] * elmo spanks Linux kernel
#2081 [16:11] <emery> I don't think it's your kernels fault
#2082 [16:13] <elmo> emery: what do you think?
#2083 [16:13] <emery> elmo: give me a sec
#2084 [16:13] <elmo> Lots of thoughts is always a way to solution
#2085 [16:13] <xolotl> oh god @ that hack in src_prepare() in the ebuild in java-overlay
#2086 [16:13] * xolotl retches a bit
#2086 [16:13] * xolotl makes a mental note never to enable the java overlay, if they're willing to do stuff like that
#2086 [16:13] <Vortex_v> hmm
#2087 [16:13] <xolotl> (apologies if it's someone here who made it, but *gag*)
#2088 [16:14] <Vortex_v> so no word on why minecraft would cause a system reboot?
#2089 [16:14] <Vortex_v> I've googled for it.
#2090 [16:14] <Vortex_v> but it dosn't quite fit what happens :/
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#2092 [16:16] <emery> elmo: I don't know what to say. I have it running and it's pretty choppy, but the fanciest machine I have is a P4
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#2095 [16:17] <elmo> emery: i use a Intel i5 with ATI Radeon HD5750
#2096 [16:18] <elmo> would spin pretty good from here
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#2098 [16:18] <emery> I don't know what that is, my laptop is a p3
#2099 [16:18] <elmo> D:
#2100 [16:18] <elmo> Pentium 3 <3<3<3
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#2102 [16:18] <elmo> I have one in my wardrobe
#2103 [16:18] <Stimpson> emery: You need a hga
#2104 [16:18] <elmo> Just collects dust atm
#2105 [16:19] <Stimpson> emery: You need a hug
#2106 [16:19] <elmo> Stimpson: if someone needs a hugs it's me
#2107 [16:19] <elmo> :(
#2108 [16:19] <elmo> darn MC + ATI ain't workin'
#2109 [16:19] <emery> I don't need no fluff
#2110 [16:20] <emery> I'm also not willing to spend more than $30
#2111 [16:20] <elmo> emery, lukegb, GreyVulpine: do you think it's because of Mint?
#2112 [16:20] <emery> probably in some way
#2113 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> I can't say....
#2114 [16:20] <elmo> :<
#2115 [16:20] <elmo> well..
#2116 [16:21] <elmo> I guess an Ubuntu install is the best way
#2117 [16:22] <emery> i had it work on one ubuntu but not another, so don't take my word for it
#2118 [16:22] <elmo> emery: ofcourse
#2119 [16:22] <elmo> but it's still worth a try
#2120 [16:22] <elmo> it can't get worse ;)
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#2122 [16:23] <elmo> Let's see if i can mange to make my USB bootable in Mint
#2123 [16:24] <SkiingPenguins> its very easy in windows ^.^ i dont see why you woudlnt have trouble
#2124 [16:25] <emery> elmo: wait a few years and we'll probably get a clone in c++
#2125 [16:25] <cubs197> I'm useing Windows 7 now, but I can't find the file that has things like my saved games. I want to copy my Worlds from my XP to 7 but I don't know where the folder is.
#2126 [16:26] <SkiingPenguins> it's in C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft for windows 7
#2127 [16:26] <SkiingPenguins> should be similar in XP
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#2129 [16:27] <cubs197> I don't see AppData
#2130 [16:27] <SkiingPenguins> it's hidden by default
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#2132 [16:27] <cubs197> ah
#2133 [16:28] <cubs197> How do I unhide it?
#2134 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Explorer window -> tools -> folder options -> advanced
#2135 [16:30] <cubs197> explorer window?
#2136 [16:31] <Arinomi> The window you view your files in.
#2137 [16:32] <cubs197> the only options are: Organize, Include in library, share with, burn, and new folder
#2138 [16:32] <cubs197> I mean do I right click the folder?
#2139 [16:33] <cubs197> I know how to unhide hidden folders on XP, but 7 is throwiing me off
#2140 [16:34] <cubs197> oh, i got it
#2141 [16:34] <cubs197> thanks
#2142 [16:37] <SkiingPenguins> hrmph
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#2151 [17:06] <Blue_Star> hi , has somebody the plugin myhome on his server ?
#2152 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope.
#2153 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> If you're talking about a bukkit plugin, try #bukkit for help
#2154 [17:07] <Blue_Star> ah thx
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#2157 [17:09] <andResin> hey
#2158 [17:10] <andResin> somebody can help me? :)
#2159 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> In #MineCraftHelp? Never!
#2160 [17:10] <andResin> haha
#2161 [17:10] <andResin> so funny
#2162 [17:10] <andResin> hey, how can I see the Chunk updates and FPS in my minecraft?
#2163 [17:10] <andResin> like fraps
#2164 [17:10] <Arinomi> Good one, GreyVulpine ^^
#2165 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> F3?
#2166 [17:11] <andResin> but with F3 It show me a lot of things
#2167 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Shows you FPS at least
#2168 [17:11] <andResin> like that http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad70/Fire7548/indevmod/SS2.png
#2169 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Yup, 109 FPS, 0 chunk updates
#2170 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> That's f3
#2171 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's an old indev screenshot.
#2172 [17:12] <andResin> but F3 show me a graphic
#2173 [17:12] <andResin> I just want that
#2174 [17:12] <andResin> every time
#2175 [17:12] <andResin> like fraps
#2176 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> indev is an old version of minecraft, it had less info with its F3.
#2177 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> F3 will still give you all that info, and more, in beta
#2178 [17:14] <andResin> aww, kk
#2179 [17:14] <andResin> thanks for the help
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#2185 [17:19] <Szernex_> What's that graph you see when pressing f3?
#2186 [17:19] <Skoshuke> Graph of awesome?
#2187 [17:19] <Skoshuke> But because it's minecraft, it's on an astronomical scale/
#2188 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Um, network traffic I believe
#2189 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Or performance.
#2190 [17:20] <Szernex_> Why would there be a network traffic graph when playing offline? :D
#2191 [17:20] <Szernex_> Hm
#2192 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Well, it shows network traffic on online mode
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#2195 [17:24] <mib_sex47f> my minecraft wont start
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#2200 [17:28] <lilybet> can i get some help
#2201 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> With?
#2202 [17:28] <lilybet> my mine craft wont work
#2203 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific?
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#2205 [17:29] <lilybet> it goes black when i login
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#2207 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> And what have you tried to fix it?
#2208 [17:30] <lilybet> i tried downloading another one but that didnt work either
#2209 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried deleting the .minecraft folder?
#2210 [17:30] <lilybet> nope
#2211 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#2212 [17:31] <lilybet> windows 7
#2213 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type: %appdata%
#2214 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder
#2215 [17:32] <lilybet> ok
#2216 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any save games you want to keep?
#2217 [17:32] <lilybet> yes
#2218 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Okay, go inside the .minecraft folder, delete everything but the saves folder
#2219 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch minecraft, it'll redownload everything
#2220 [17:33] <lilybet> okay
#2221 [17:35] <lilybet> there we go
#2222 [17:35] <lilybet> thank you
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#2224 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> No problem.
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#2232 [18:02] <Lorethian> Hey guys, I was wondering if I could harass someone for some help?
#2233 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Harass? No. Ask? Sure?
#2234 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> er, Sure!
#2235 [18:02] <Lorethian> well, it's with regards to hosting one's own server
#2236 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Ask away.
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#2238 [18:03] <Lorethian> I've never done anything with servers before, so I'm ridiculously newbish at it. I've downloaded the client from the official website, and it's opened a window with three panels, one is spamming "Generating new properites file"
#2239 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Right, that should be the minecraft_server.exe/jar file.
#2240 [18:04] <Lorethian> That particular one is .exe
#2241 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> It generates new files in the same directory where you just launched it
#2242 [18:04] <Lorethian> I also have a .jar one, is that for MAC or something?
#2243 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> It's for any OS, for finer tuning of launch arguments. The .exe is a wrapped .jar with arguments already set
#2244 [18:06] <Lorethian> Alrighty, is there something else I'm missing? I hop into a minecraft.exe application to run the game as normal, and punch in my IP in the box for multiplayer, and get nothing
#2245 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> But you're not here for the differences between those two, what's your question?
#2246 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Define "nothing"
#2247 [18:06] <Szernex_> can you grow pumpkins like sugar cane and co?
#2248 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Szernex_ - Currently, no
#2249 [18:06] <Szernex_> kay, ty
#2250 [18:07] <Lorethian> "Failed to connect to the server. Connection refused: connect"
#2251 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Lorethian - What IP did you use to connect with?
#2252 [18:07] <Lorethian> 142.162.166.147
#2253 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Try 127.0.0.1
#2254 [18:07] <Lorethian> Oooh
#2255 [18:07] <Lorethian> Still same thing :s
#2256 [18:07] <aetherian> or localhost?
#2257 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> localhost
#2258 [18:08] <Lorethian> Tried that
#2259 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#2260 [18:08] <Lorethian> I'm on windows, yes. Vista
#2261 [18:08] <aetherian> ono
#2262 [18:08] <aetherian> vista
#2263 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Turn off firewall
#2264 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> "firewall.cpl" in the start menu
#2265 [18:08] <Lorethian> Ack, I ususally DO have it off
#2266 [18:08] <Lorethian> I woulda checked that first D:
#2267 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Can you check again?
#2268 [18:09] <Lorethian> Yeah, just did... I coulda sworn I had it off
#2269 [18:09] <Lorethian> Lessee if that works..
#2270 [18:09] <Lorethian> Would I have to reset the server client?
#2271 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> No
#2272 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Try 127.0.0.1 again
#2273 [18:10] <Lorethian> Same >.<
#2274 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Lorethian - Did you mess with server.properties at all?
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#2276 [18:10] <Lorethian> And localhost doesn't work either
#2277 [18:10] <Lorethian> I haven't
#2278 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Any other security software running on that machine?
#2279 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Anything that might act as a firewall
#2280 [18:11] <Lorethian> nope, though would I have to open ports for minecraft.exe?
#2281 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Eventually, yes.
#2282 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> If you want people to connect from the outside, you will
#2283 [18:11] <Lorethian> but I shouldn't be having these issues
#2284 [18:11] <Lorethian> ?
#2285 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> I'm a little confused as to why you can't connect locally right now, usually it's because of windows firewall, or a security suite running on the machine that's blocking local connections
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#2287 [18:12] <cal> Hello there, can anyone help me? I'm having an issue with minecraft on ubuntu 10.10
#2288 [18:13] <aetherian> what with
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#2290 [18:13] <cal> right after I log in all the files download
#2291 [18:13] <cal> and then the game just goes away
#2292 [18:13] <cal> no error code
#2293 [18:13] <cal> nothing
#2294 [18:13] <aetherian> O.O
#2295 [18:14] <Lorethian> o.O; My server window just closed
#2296 [18:14] <Lorethian> Without provocation
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#2298 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Lorethian - That's.. interesting.
#2299 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> cal - Check the folder where you have minecraft.exe, do you have any error logs in there?
#2300 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Lorethian - Check server.log, does it mention anything at the end?
#2301 [18:15] <cal> there is no minecraft.exe
#2302 [18:15] <cal> its on linux, just the .jar file
#2303 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> er, minecraft.jar
#2304 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Sorry.
#2305 [18:16] <Lorethian> Sorry Vulpine, where would I find that?
#2306 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Lorethian - Same folder where you launched minecraft_server.ede
#2307 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> exe*
#2308 [18:16] <Wilco> im having some trouble with minecarts, i've made several boosters (the ones listed on MC Wiki) along the way of a large straight track but the minecart comes to a sudden and complete stop at random places along the way, even right after a booster section. Any suggestions on this?
#2309 [18:16] <cal> theres nothing in the folder that the .jar is in and nothing changed in the .jar itself
#2310 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> cal - How are you launching the .jar, with what arguments?
#2311 [18:17] <cal> wait
#2312 [18:17] <cal> nevermind
#2313 [18:17] <cal> I think I have it
#2314 [18:17] <Lorethian> This is bizarre, I just launched the server.exe again, and it's doing something very different, and promising; "Preparing spawn area"
#2315 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Lorethian - It does that.
#2316 [18:17] <Lorethian> And now it's not spamming "Creating new properties" or whatever it was
#2317 [18:17] <aetherian> ...
#2318 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> It only generates new properties on first launch
#2319 [18:18] <aetherian> I know what happened
#2320 [18:18] <Lorethian> This looks much better, lessee
#2321 [18:18] <aetherian> don't you have to restart the server in order to use it?
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#2323 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Usually no.
#2324 [18:18] <Lorethian> Wonderful! Got it!
#2325 [18:18] <statik> java -jar /home/userdir/minecraftdir/minecraft.jar
#2326 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Lorethian - It worked? You can connect locally?
#2327 [18:19] <Lorethian> Though, lol, should blocks be regenerating as soon as I pop them?
#2328 [18:19] <aetherian> I knew it
#2329 [18:19] <Lorethian> Yeah
#2330 [18:19] <aetherian> lorr: yes
#2331 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes, you're in the spawn point.
#2332 [18:19] <aetherian> walk away from spawn
#2333 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> A certain radius of spawn is protected
#2334 [18:19] <aetherian> ...or op yerself
#2335 [18:19] <Wilco> Any thouhts on the minecart issue?
#2336 [18:19] <Lorethian> ahhh, I see!
#2337 [18:19] <aetherian> wilco: need more info
#2338 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Wilco - Is this on SP or SMP?
#2339 [18:20] <Wilco> both actually, i've started the map in SP but i've also copied it to SMP
#2340 [18:21] <Wilco> game feels more solid in SP so when nobody is there to play along i copy it back there
#2341 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Weird, there's been some issues with boosters in SMP, but they should still be fine in SP
#2342 [18:22] <Wilco> i've heard some ranting about it being related to chunk-loading in a forum but i havent got a clue what they were on about
#2343 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> For minecart booster tutorials, try "Bob's minecart tutorials" on youtube
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#2347 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Basically, only chunks that are near you are loaded readily into memory. Anything further is unloaded. Minecarts and chunks have yet to be fully ironed out (minecarts hitting the edge of a loaded chunk used to be buggy)
#2348 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> I don't know how it is now.
#2349 [18:24] <Wilco> i've had no trouble building the boosters, they are solid, atleast they worked fine until about christmas. i just build a small looping track, about 30 blocks in total with a booster.. the cart does 18-ish laps and then just stops
#2350 [18:24] <Wilco> not even a gradual slow stop but a dead stop
#2351 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, like it just loses momentum at random, was a known issue in SMP
#2352 [18:25] <elmo> ARgh
#2353 [18:25] <Wilco> was?
#2354 [18:25] <SkiingPenguins> oh noes there goes my momentum! *peers into the sky*
#2355 [18:25] <elmo> fucking give me a break
#2356 [18:25] <elmo> Won't work in Ubuntu 10.10 neither
#2357 [18:25] <elmo> FML
#2358 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> I don't know what the booster's current status is in SMP
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#2360 [18:26] <Wilco> ah well, atleast its a common problem and not somesort of savegame related issue
#2361 [18:27] <Wilco> it'll be fixed (hopefully) soon enough (even more hopefullness)
#2362 [18:27] <elmo> GreyVulpine: is there any diffrent by minecraft.jar and Minecraft.jar ?
#2363 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Um, from the website?
#2364 [18:27] <elmo> GreyVulpine: there is only one .jar from the website
#2365 [18:27] <elmo> and that's minecraft.jar
#2366 [18:27] <elmo> D:
#2367 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's minecraft.jar
#2368 [18:28] <elmo> Somebody said it was a Minecraft.jar
#2369 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> used to be Minecraft.jar before the server migration
#2370 [18:28] <elmo> oh
#2371 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> (blame the caps-sensitive webserver)
#2372 [18:28] <elmo> and that doesn't work with the new one?
#2373 [18:28] <dopeghoti> Wilco: You don't want to have a cart keep boosting in the same direction on a loop
#2374 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> But really, there's no difference at all
#2375 [18:28] <SkiingPenguins> web server dum dum >:O
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#2377 [18:28] <dopeghoti> Wilco: you'll basically overflow the momentum counter
#2378 [18:28] <Seldion> Hello....
#2379 [18:28] <dopeghoti> Wilco: you want rather to have one that boosts itself one way, stops, and resets itself.
#2380 [18:28] <Seldion> I gots a question about Redstone wire, the wood plates and the dispenser
#2381 [18:28] <dopeghoti> Seldion: Greetings.
#2382 [18:29] <SkiingPenguins> Seldion ask away
#2383 [18:29] <dopeghoti> Seldion: you've found the right place- ask away!
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#2385 [18:29] <Seldion> I know i can use the redstone wire to set up a trap with the dispenser but my problem is its to far away from the presure plate
#2386 [18:29] <Seldion> i
#2387 [18:30] <Seldion> I'm trying to find a way to get it to work from where it is :(
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#2389 [18:30] <dopeghoti> Seldion: Yes, RS 'signal' can only carry over 15 segments of wire. Use a repeater not-gate to extend the signal past 15 blocks
#2390 [18:30] <dopeghoti> diagram: _________[]/_______
#2391 [18:30] <dopeghoti> (_ == wire, [] = block with wire, / = RS torch
#2392 [18:30] <dopeghoti> )
#2393 [18:31] <Seldion> I see....
#2394 [18:31] <dopeghoti> Seldion: If you need to double-invert, you can do this: ____[]/_[]/___
#2395 [18:31] <Seldion> but won't that keep the wire active?
#2396 [18:31] <SkiingPenguins> there has to be a page about this on the wiki w/ screenshots
#2397 [18:32] <Seldion> Yes it does but its very confuseing as there is not much text explaining it
#2398 [18:32] <dopeghoti> There is, but I can't post screenshots here, and for this purpose, ASCII art suffices.
#2399 [18:32] <dopeghoti> plus, I can get away with IRC at work, but the MC Wiki might drawi re.
#2400 [18:32] <dopeghoti> draw ire, rather.
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#2403 [18:33] <Wilco> dopeghoti: The idea behind this is this: 2 main bases at a distance of about 900 blocks apart, a 2-way '0'-shaped track in between with minecarts/chest-carts running in between, you want a certain cart, you flip a redstone circuit and isolate a cart from the track to a holding area. But even though there are enough boosters along the way, the cart will just freeze in place occationally, even...
#2404 [18:33] <Wilco> ...before making it half-way a single part of the track
#2405 [18:34] <Lorethian> So is there a different client one needs to DL to change from SMP to just MP? Or is it something that settings determines?
#2406 [18:34] <dopeghoti> Lorethian: no, the same client is for both SP and MP
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#2408 [18:34] <elmo> I still need halp with Minecraft + Linux + ATI :((((
#2409 [18:35] * GreyVulpine hides behind dopeghoti
#2409 [18:35] <dopeghoti> Wilco: 900 blocks' distance might be too far to keep the far side loaded, and carts that drift into unloaded space lose their momentum when the chunk is reloaded.
#2410 [18:35] <Lorethian> Sorry, I mean isn't there a multiplayer that is survival, and another is just creation?
#2411 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, classic is the free creative one
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#2413 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> You have all the blocks, no survival, no monsters, no crafting
#2414 [18:36] <Lorethian> Ahhhh, but the one with monsters is the one I've paid for?
#2415 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2416 [18:36] <Lorethian> Sweet :)
#2417 [18:36] <Seldion> Hmmm
#2418 [18:36] <Wilco> odd that you dont know what exactly you've paid for :p
#2419 [18:36] <Lorethian> I just wanted to support the game :3
#2420 [18:37] <Lorethian> It's awesome and deserves it
#2421 [18:37] <Lorethian> I bought it before I DLed any client or anything
#2422 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Hey, better than the people who just pirate and come here demanding help.
#2423 [18:38] * GreyVulpine thanks Lorethian for buying minecraft
#2423 [18:38] <Seldion> Okay does the wire have to be flat or can it be going on a block thingy...
#2424 [18:38] <Seldion> lolz it was Lorethian that did xD
#2425 [18:38] <Lorethian> <3
#2426 [18:39] <Lorethian> So, how would I find out what the IP someone would need to use to connect? I tried my IP address, but it won't work, or is that because I'm hosting it?
#2427 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> No, you need to port forward before you can do that
#2428 [18:39] <Wilco> i like X's Adventures youtube video's about minecraft
#2429 [18:39] <Wilco> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bh4EexJO4I
#2430 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft server uses port 25565/TCP
#2431 [18:41] <elmo> lukegb: still here?
#2432 [18:41] <elmo> mbentley: still here?
#2433 [18:41] <elmo> I think i have something D:
#2434 [18:42] <mbentley> maybe
#2435 [18:42] <mbentley> whatcha find?
#2436 [18:42] <elmo> mbentley: well
#2437 [18:43] <Lorethian> Any suggestions on tutorials for port forwarding? Everything i'm seeing on google is either sketchy-looking, or trying to sell me a program to do it <_< It's been a very long time since I've done this lol
#2438 [18:43] <elmo> i formated (again) to Ubuntu 10.10
#2439 [18:43] <elmo> Fire up MC with the Java client
#2440 [18:43] <elmo> crashes
#2441 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Lorethian - happen to have Teamviewer?
#2442 [18:43] <elmo> So I thought that i could try it in Wine
#2443 [18:43] <elmo> And it, suprisely, works D:
#2444 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Or I can walk you through it here.
#2445 [18:43] <mbentley> interesting
#2446 [18:43] <Seldion> Darn i guess i can't use the bridge i build to run the redstone
#2447 [18:43] <Lorethian> What's teamviewer? Some remote access thing?
#2448 [18:43] * GreyVulpine nods
#2448 [18:44] <elmo> In Mint neither .jar nor .exe via wine worked
#2449 [18:44] <Lorethian> I do not, but lemme see if I can wrap my miniscule brain around it first
#2450 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> No worries, here.
#2451 [18:44] <Lorethian> Port forwarding, thati s
#2452 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, type in: cmd
#2453 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> at the command prompt, type in: ipconfig
#2454 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Copy and paste the ipv4 address, and default gateway here
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#2456 [18:45] <Lorethian> Thanks :S *sheepish*
#2457 [18:45] <Lorethian> IPV4: 192.168.0.103
#2458 [18:45] <Lorethian> Default: 192.168.0.1
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#2460 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Okay, you can close that window now, go to your browser, type in http://192.168.0.1
#2461 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Log in, if you need to.
#2462 [18:46] <elmo> mbentley: so, what i think, we can put away that the graphic card is messing around
#2463 [18:46] <elmo> right?
#2464 [18:46] <Lorethian> Not connecting to that page o.o
#2465 [18:46] <Lorethian> I use a d link router, if that helps
#2466 [18:46] <SkiingPenguins> that helps a lot
#2467 [18:46] <mbentley> well i still think it is the graphics card
#2468 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> You're sure that's the right address you put in?
#2469 [18:47] <mbentley> well, the graphics drivers
#2470 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.0.1 ?
#2471 [18:47] <Lorethian> Yup, I tried with and without the http
#2472 [18:47] <mbentley> must be in combination of something else as well
#2473 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Oh wait, are you connecting wirelessly by chance?
#2474 [18:47] <Lorethian> Nope
#2475 [18:47] <Lorethian> Though
#2476 [18:47] <Lorethian> My ISP has a modem that's doubled as a router
#2477 [18:47] <mbentley> aah double nat!
#2478 [18:47] <Lorethian> So it's Modem/router -> Router -> My compy
#2479 [18:47] <SkiingPenguins> aw i hate those
#2480 [18:47] * GreyVulpine twitches
#2480 [18:47] <elmo> mbentley: mbentley what if i try to remove the Sun Java and replace it with OpenJDK?
#2481 [18:47] <elmo> or what it's called
#2482 [18:48] <mbentley> sure, elmo
#2483 [18:48] <xales> GreyVulpine, I'm currently working on a possible solution to those :)
#2484 [18:48] <mbentley> you can install openjdk along side the sun java jre
#2485 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Please xales, that would be great
#2486 [18:48] <Lorethian> Sorry for the headache D:
#2487 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> No problem, we get double-natted people in here wanting to run servers all the time
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#2489 [18:49] <chesser45> I got my server going thks to greyvulpine
#2490 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Now um. why doesn't http://192.168.0.1 work...
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#2492 [18:49] <chesser45> but I want to know how to give players on my server items
#2493 [18:49] <elmo> mbentley: don't it screw it up?
#2494 [18:49] <chesser45> using the give command
#2495 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> /give player id num
#2496 [18:50] <mbentley> elmo: right
#2497 [18:50] <chesser45> tried that
#2498 [18:50] <mbentley> just install 'openjdk-6-jre'
#2499 [18:50] <chesser45> says item doesnt exist
#2500 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Use http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#2501 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> the dec values
#2502 [18:50] <chesser45> I did
#2503 [18:50] <mbentley> aptitude install openjdk-6-jre
#2504 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> say I wanted to give myself 64 torches, it would be /give greyvulpine 50 64
#2505 [18:50] <mbentley> then do a 'sudo update-alternatives --config java'
#2506 [18:51] <chesser45> what if their name has 2 parts
#2507 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Erm
#2508 [18:51] <chesser45> like " cheese monkey
#2509 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> You sure it's two words?
#2510 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> There's no underscore between them?
#2511 [18:51] <chesser45> with a space yea
#2512 [18:51] <chesser45> idont think so
#2513 [18:51] <chesser45> d3ath c1utch: Save complete.
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#2515 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - I don't think minecraft allows two word names, do they?
#2516 [18:52] <Seldion> yays i got my trap go!
#2517 [18:52] <chesser45> ok
#2518 [18:52] <chesser45> thx jw
#2519 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Lorethian - You might have better luck asking one of us here to try a remote session, get you working.
#2520 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> I need to run off though.
#2521 [18:53] <Lorethian> Okay, I appreciate all the help, Grey
#2522 [18:54] <chesser45> so the player have to be valid minecraft users?
#2523 [18:54] <mbentley> elmo: so when you do the update-alternatives, choose the entry with openjdk
#2524 [18:54] <chesser45> do*
#2525 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - That would be the idea, yeah
#2526 [18:54] <chesser45> im valid
#2527 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Or at least turn on online-mode, so people can't log in with just any old name
#2528 [18:54] <chesser45> but one of my friends wants to use hacked so is that why it wont work?
#2529 [18:54] <elmo> mbentley: what do you mean? :E
#2530 [18:54] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#2530 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that would be the reason chesser45
#2531 [18:55] <mbentley> elmo: look above
#2532 [18:55] <chesser45> ok
#2533 [18:55] <elmo> feeling that my head is slowly starting to mess up :(
#2534 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Beat them over the head, and force them to buy it
#2535 [18:55] <chesser45> yea ikr
#2536 [18:55] <chesser45> i can gift it to actual owners though ?
#2537 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#2538 [18:55] <chesser45> in offline mode
#2539 [18:55] <elmo> mbentley: well... according to java -version it's running openjdk
#2540 [18:55] <mbentley> ok
#2541 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> As long as it's one word names
#2542 [18:55] <chesser45> ok thx
#2543 [18:55] <chesser45> is this like ur job by the way?
#2544 [18:56] <chesser45> jw
#2545 [18:56] <aetherian> heh
#2546 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Pfft. Job?
#2547 [18:56] <aetherian> he doesn't know the meaning of the word
#2548 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> I'm in no way affiliated with Mojang.
#2549 [18:56] <chesser45> lol ur on here like 24/7
#2550 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> I do this for fun.
#2551 [18:56] <aetherian> (or any company, I'd bet)
#2552 [18:56] <chesser45> lol
#2553 [18:56] <aetherian> bum.
#2554 [18:56] <chesser45> u could make money
#2555 [18:56] <aetherian> oh I mean
#2556 [18:56] <chesser45> as a consultant
#2557 [18:57] <Lorethian> then it wouldn't be help, it'd be serving :3
#2558 [18:57] <elmo> mbentley: darn :(
#2559 [18:57] <elmo> well...
#2560 [18:57] <elmo> that didn't work
#2561 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I've done consultant work, I'm taking a break from that now
#2562 [18:57] <aetherian> chesser45: he doesn't like having a job
#2563 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Actually, I'm still looking for work, just not been having any luck.
#2564 [18:58] * aetherian has an urge to be a wiseass
#2564 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, feel free.
#2565 [18:58] <Seldion> yays i am so proud of me self i made a despinser trap that is quite effective....
#2566 [18:58] <aetherian> hey greyvulpine, can you help me with something real quick?
#2567 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> With?
#2568 [18:59] <aetherian> someone I'm chatting with says they are entitled to pass out versions of MC in the USA
#2569 [18:59] <aetherian> I say no
#2570 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> Most likely not.
#2571 [18:59] <aetherian> do you know where the legal thing is?
#2572 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> legal thing?
#2573 [18:59] <aetherian> where it says you can't redistribute
#2574 [18:59] <Lorethian> Whenever you log in :P
#2575 [18:59] <Lorethian> The main screen
#2576 [18:59] <xales> aetherian: minecraft.net
#2577 [18:59] <xales> :P
#2578 [19:00] <aetherian> it's in #smp if ya want to see the conv
#2579 [19:00] * aetherian goes to google
#2579 [19:01] <aetherian> this guy is funny
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#2582 [19:10] <chesser45> ok I turned on line mode for my server and the give command wont work
#2583 [19:10] <chesser45> even on lgal players
#2584 [19:11] <Deadmau> Hey all, I'm building a chicken coop/egg farmer, I am having trouble spawning more than 4 chickens in one area, is there a limit?
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#2587 [19:11] <Brad00> i honestly dont even know how to play the game. i just bought it, redeemed the code but now what?
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#2589 [19:11] <chesser45> @brad download the game
#2590 [19:12] <chesser45> form minecraft.net
#2591 [19:12] <Brad00> where do i tipe tht?
#2592 [19:12] <chesser45> web browser
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#2594 [19:13] <Brad00> ok 1 min
#2595 [19:13] <Brad00> ok now what?
#2596 [19:13] <chesser45> greyvulpine my server give command and tp commands still dont work
#2597 [19:14] <chesser45> brad , click the download bbutoon on the right of the screen
#2598 [19:14] <chesser45> button
#2599 [19:14] <chesser45> under the buy now add
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#2601 [19:15] <Brad00> but isnt that just a beta?
#2602 [19:15] <chesser45> yea man
#2603 [19:15] <Brad00> i already bought it tho.
#2604 [19:15] <chesser45> we are in the beta stage now
#2605 [19:16] <chesser45> to bought the game
#2606 [19:16] <xales> The game is in 'beta' right now
#2607 [19:16] <chesser45> you bought the game which is in beta
#2608 [19:16] <xales> you bought the 'beta' which also includes the final version when is is completed
#2609 [19:16] <Brad00> ohhh ok i understand now.
#2610 [19:16] <xales> for a lower price
#2611 [19:16] <chesser45> so u get to play the beta game
#2612 [19:17] <Brad00> now i feel rlly stupid! XD
#2613 [19:17] <chesser45> any ideas for why my server commands wouldnt work?
#2614 [19:17] <chesser45> just the give and tp
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#2616 [19:17] <Deadmau> Hey all, I'm building a chicken coop/egg farmer, I am having trouble spawning more than 4 chickens in one area, is there a limit?
#2617 [19:18] <Brad00> thanks everyone
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#2619 [19:19] <chesser45> dude have fun
#2620 [19:19] <Sqozza> Deadmau, you could throw some eggs in there.
#2621 [19:19] <aetherian> !ping
#2622 [19:19] <Sqozza> To start off.
#2623 [19:19] <Deadmau> I did
#2624 [19:20] <Deadmau> I can't seem to get more than 4 chickens in one "level" of my egg farm
#2625 [19:20] <Deadmau> I have 3 levels of 4 chickens though
#2626 [19:20] <crickets> aetherian Your Ping time was 56.972 Seconds.
#2627 [19:20] <aetherian> lol
#2628 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Holy
#2629 [19:21] <aetherian> thought something was wrong
#2630 [19:21] <aetherian> that's why I used the command
#2631 [19:21] <aetherian> lol
#2632 [19:21] <chesser45> greyvulpine any other suggestions of why my server give commands wont work
#2633 [19:22] <chesser45> cuz I found out my friend is actually legal
#2634 [19:22] <chesser45> hidden uderscore
#2635 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Um
#2636 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> you opped yourself?
#2637 [19:23] <chesser45> yes
#2638 [19:23] <chesser45> im using ther server command line
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#2640 [19:25] <chesser45> do i need to be in game ?
#2641 [19:26] <chesser45> or am i fine using the server line
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#2643 [19:26] <gerzel> Is there a faster way to mine obsidian than a diamond pick?
#2644 [19:26] <aetherian> g2g
#2645 [19:26] <aetherian> and no
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#2648 [19:30] <catkingdom> Anyone around?
#2649 [19:30] <mbentley> maybe
#2650 [19:30] <gerzel> can dynamite destroy magma
#2651 [19:31] <catkingdom> oh wow, there is someone here.
#2652 [19:31] <catkingdom> Every other time i've come here it's been deserted!
#2653 [19:31] <chesser45> ther is but the admins are busy i think.......
#2654 [19:32] <catkingdom> WELLL then, I have a Server issue. On my Beta SMP Server, non-op'd players cannot do... anything. at all. they can't even open doors or chests. Is this normal?
#2655 [19:32] <catkingdom> I don't think it is; especially as the exact same server didn't have said issue before I loaded a new world into it
#2656 [19:33] <chesser45> i had that problem
#2657 [19:33] <chesser45> so i oped everyone and the problem went away
#2658 [19:33] <chesser45> but dont take my work for it
#2659 [19:34] <chesser45> wait for an admin
#2660 [19:34] <catkingdom> Yes, but I don't really want to op everyone :P
#2661 [19:34] <catkingdom> what I don't understand is why it would exhibit this behaviour now when it didn't before
#2662 [19:34] <mbentley> catkingdom: did you build in the spawn zone?
#2663 [19:34] <catkingdom> Yes
#2664 [19:35] <catkingdom> Was that bad?
#2665 [19:35] <mbentley> normal users can't do anything in the spawn zone, that is why
#2666 [19:35] <catkingdom> oh?
#2667 [19:35] <mbentley> outside of the spawn, they can mine, operate doors, etc
#2668 [19:35] <catkingdom> so... if I get them to move away from the spawn zone, it'll work fine?
#2669 [19:35] <mbentley> yes
#2670 [19:36] <catkingdom> Oh. Thanks. Any particular reason why that is the case?
#2671 [19:36] <mbentley> only ops and admins can do things in the spawn.
#2672 [19:36] <elmo> God damn i hope this is just some minor problems T__t
#2673 [19:36] <mbentley> it's just how it is
#2674 [19:36] <chesser45> mbently
#2675 [19:36] <elmo> Now Minecraft won't work in Wine
#2676 [19:36] <elmo> lol
#2677 [19:36] <mbentley> *cough* ati sucks on linux *cough*
#2678 [19:36] <chesser45> any suggestions of why server commands wont work?
#2679 [19:36] <xales> chesser45: probably something to do with offline-mode
#2680 [19:36] <catkingdom> your server crassed. Reboot it :P
#2681 [19:37] <mbentley> won't work from where?
#2682 [19:37] <chesser45> Im entering them from the server window
#2683 [19:38] <mbentley> from the server command line? as a user in the game?
#2684 [19:38] <chesser45> server command line
#2685 [19:38] <chesser45> said the b4 and none answered
#2686 [19:38] <xales> what command are you trying to use
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#2688 [19:39] <mbentley> are you putting slashes in front of the commands? (you shouldn't)
#2689 [19:39] <chesser45> nope
#2690 [19:39] <chesser45> im say ing/give <player> <item? [number]
#2691 [19:40] <chesser45> with out the slash
#2692 [19:40] <mbentley> can you do anything like 'list' ?
#2693 [19:40] <chesser45> give <player> <item> [number]
#2694 [19:40] <chesser45> yes
#2695 [19:40] <xales> what exactly are you typing
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#2697 [19:40] <chesser45> everything except the give, tp, and whisper
#2698 [19:41] <mbentley> example: give mbentley 46 64
#2699 [19:41] <chesser45> give badboy19919 <57> [12]
#2700 [19:41] <mbentley> don't put the <> and []
#2701 [19:41] <chesser45> ooo lol
#2702 [19:41] <mbentley> tada
#2703 [19:41] <mbentley> :)
#2704 [19:41] <chesser45> is that why?
#2705 [19:41] <mbentley> yes
#2706 [19:42] * Kealper rawrs
#2706 [19:42] <Kealper> that was a long friggin store-run
#2707 [19:42] <mbentley> oh yeah, you're up in michigan... how is the weather up there?
#2708 [19:43] <mbentley> getting freezing rain here now
#2709 [19:43] <xales> Kealper: again?
#2710 [19:43] <Kealper> uhh....sitting a lovely 11 F right now
#2711 [19:43] <xales> didn't you just...do that yesterday
#2712 [19:43] <chesser45> thanks
#2713 [19:43] <mbentley> np
#2714 [19:43] <Kealper> xales: my sister wanted to go to the hobby shop to pimp a chair she found...i had to tag along for the measurment stuff
#2715 [19:44] <Kealper> but naturally.....we had to stop at Sears and look at clothes for hours
#2716 [19:44] <Kealper> never...again...
#2717 [19:45] <xales> fun
#2718 [19:45] <Kealper> i know right? today i learned that there are women's boots that are strictly indoor-only
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#2720 [19:46] <Kealper> also i lol at how Raikuron left a few seconds after i said something
#2721 [19:47] <Kealper> i kickbanned him yesterday for being a douche :/
#2722 [19:47] <mbentley> haha
#2723 [19:47] <xales> he avoided the ban to "check if his ban expired"
#2724 [19:47] <xales> ._.
#2725 [19:47] <Kealper> lolwut
#2726 [19:48] <xales> I don't remember what ended up happening
#2727 [19:48] <xales> but he isn't banned now, but if he is a douche again
#2728 [19:48] <Kealper> Deadmau........
#2729 [19:48] <xales> ban his whole isp
#2730 [19:48] <xales> psx*.evdo.whatever
#2731 [19:48] <Kealper> i only kickbanned him because i went to kick him and he had an autojoin
#2732 [19:48] <xales> indeed
#2733 [19:48] <Kealper> which reminds me
#2734 [19:49] <mbentley> well evdo would be a mobile wireless provider
#2735 [19:49] <xales> True fixed chanserv
#2736 [19:49] <xales> so they can kick thru it now
#2737 [19:50] <Kealper> although truth-be-told, i really do not like chanserv's akick
#2738 [19:50] <Kealper> someone could douche it up if they get akicked and just joinspam
#2739 [19:50] <mbentley> so it is /msg chanserv kick <channel> <nick> , right?
#2740 [19:51] <xales> yeah
#2741 [19:51] <Kealper> iono....try it on aubot
#2742 [19:51] <xales> also, akick sets a ban, kealpy
#2743 [19:51] <Kealper> yeah but how long does that ban last?
#2744 [19:51] <mbentley> PROVE IT
#2745 [19:51] <mbentley> :)
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#2748 [19:52] <Kealper> meh
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#2750 [19:52] <xales> Kealper
#2751 [19:52] <xales> tell me
#2752 [19:52] <xales> what the fuck is going on in #minecraft
#2753 [19:52] <Sqozza> Holy dicks in a jar.
#2754 [19:53] <Kealper> what the hell
#2755 [19:53] <mbentley> i tend to not look in #minecraft...
#2756 [19:53] <Kealper> #minecraft is retarded right now
#2757 [19:53] <xales> indeed
#2758 [19:53] <Kealper> <RavingRev> if you were a girl i'd be turned on
#2759 [19:53] <Kealper> >.>
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#2762 [19:56] <ArmEagle> is it just a myth, or is there some basis to it, that a very busy minecraft.net can cause gameserver lag (noone leaving or joining)?
#2763 [19:56] <mbentley> i've personally never seen anything like that
#2764 [19:57] <Rait> response code: 503 for URL: http://www.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Raitoningu ----- Can't see anymore of this but i keep getting it while trying to join my server im hosting on the same computer. Anyone know something? :l
#2765 [19:57] <ArmEagle> yeah .net seems to have issues
#2766 [19:58] <Rait> But there's other people in my server. Only i'm getting the error
#2767 [19:58] <mbentley> hmm, yeah seems that minecraft.net isn't responding for me either
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#2769 [20:04] <Kealper> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/some-weekend-work-that-will-hopefully.html
#2770 [20:04] <Kealper> Google....is so awesome
#2771 [20:05] <elmo> argh /fustraded/
#2772 [20:05] <Kealper> O.o with what?
#2773 [20:05] <elmo> Kealper: Shitty ATI + Java + Minecraft == No good combo ay :(
#2774 [20:06] <mbentley> elmo: you mean ati + linux
#2775 [20:06] <Kealper> want me to say something that will probably offend you, and will make you want to punch me in the face across the internet ?
#2776 [20:06] <mbentley> maybe + java
#2777 [20:06] <elmo> mbentley: yarr
#2778 [20:06] <mbentley> lol
#2779 [20:06] <elmo> Kealper: "ATI BLOW YO BALLS"
#2780 [20:06] <elmo> i know
#2781 [20:06] <elmo> :(
#2782 [20:07] <Kealper> i'm a 100% ati/amd fanboy myself
#2783 [20:07] <Kealper> what i was going to say
#2784 [20:07] <elmo> *pew*
#2785 [20:07] <mbentley> WHAT
#2786 [20:07] <mbentley> kill Kealper with fire!
#2787 [20:07] <elmo> mbentley: See! You are the only Nvidia-boy around here
#2788 [20:07] <elmo> :3
#2789 [20:07] <Kealper> dual boot with a copy of xp, run minecraft on that
#2790 [20:07] <elmo> Kealper: Noooo :(
#2791 [20:07] <mbentley> ask most avid linux users...
#2792 [20:07] <mbentley> nvidia > ati
#2793 [20:07] <mbentley> :)
#2794 [20:08] <Kealper> mbentley: that's only because fglrx is a joke lol
#2795 [20:08] <mbentley> it's true
#2796 [20:08] <Kealper> ati cards have loads of raw power, but it means jack all if the drivers don't even work :/
#2797 [20:08] <elmo> Kealper: srsly, is thier no other soloution?
#2798 [20:08] <elmo> A workaround etc etc?
#2799 [20:09] <elmo> Can't dev-team do something about it? :(
#2800 [20:09] <mbentley> i know a workaround
#2801 [20:09] <elmo> like epic-magic-powahz
#2802 [20:09] <mbentley> or two
#2803 [20:09] <elmo> mbentley: no frikin nvidia! :(
#2804 [20:09] <Kealper> elmo: i never said it was the only solution....but it's certainly one i would do, since it would just let me stop beating around the bush and play minecraft the fastest
#2805 [20:09] <mbentley> 1.) don't buy ati
#2806 [20:09] <mbentley> 2.) install windows
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#2808 [20:09] <Lorethian> Erp
#2809 [20:09] <elmo> Kealper: so, do you have another solution?
#2810 [20:09] <elmo> :D
#2811 [20:09] <mbentley> while i am a huge linux fan, i still run windows 7
#2812 [20:10] <mbentley> and many server 2008 VMs
#2813 [20:10] <Kealper> sure, you may hate windows, but you'd be a fool not to agreee when i say it will probably play just fine if you did it on a copy of xp
#2814 [20:10] <elmo> mbentley: basiclly why i formated to linux, since i don't play anything
#2815 [20:10] <elmo> or do anything on Win
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#2817 [20:10] <elmo> And since it said that Minecraft would work with Java + Linux
#2818 [20:11] <elmo> i thought "Awesomsauce! Lets hit it!"
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#2820 [20:11] <mbentley> the need an *
#2821 [20:11] <mbentley> :D
#2822 [20:11] <mbentley> like others mentioned, other distros may work just fine
#2823 [20:11] <elmo> mbentley: well
#2824 [20:11] <elmo> I tried Mint
#2825 [20:11] <elmo> Now Ubuntu
#2826 [20:12] <mbentley> well mint is based on ubuntu
#2827 [20:12] <elmo> oh, yeah
#2828 [20:13] <elmo> tho' i don't have any experience from both gentoo nor arch
#2829 [20:13] <Kealper> try Debian? lol
#2830 [20:13] <mbentley> gentoo is a bit off the deep end
#2831 [20:13] <mbentley> debian might be an ok try
#2832 [20:13] <mbentley> try debian squeeze (testing)
#2833 [20:13] <elmo> Kealper: debian == based on Ubuntu?
#2834 [20:13] <elmo> or wise verse
#2835 [20:13] <mbentley> no
#2836 [20:14] <Kealper> although ubuntu claims to be based off debian, it lies...they have changed it so much that they are basically about as based off eachother as osx is to bsd
#2837 [20:14] <mbentley> ubuntu is based on debian
#2838 [20:14] <elmo> Hmm
#2839 [20:14] <mbentley> debian is the godfather of apt based distros
#2840 [20:14] <elmo> well..
#2841 [20:14] <mbentley> squeeze will be stable this weekend
#2842 [20:14] <elmo> I thought of setting up VNC on my server
#2843 [20:14] <elmo> tho' not the same hardware
#2844 [20:14] <elmo> T__T
#2845 [20:15] <elmo> mbentley: but hey...
#2846 [20:15] <elmo> What if i setup Debian in a virtual enviorment?
#2847 [20:15] <elmo> wouldn't that work?
#2848 [20:15] <Kealper> it will run like butt
#2849 [20:15] <elmo> Kealper: well...
#2850 [20:15] <Kealper> well, minecraft will
#2851 [20:15] <mbentley> virtualization + minecraft...
#2852 [20:15] <elmo> i was just thinkin of testing it
#2853 [20:15] <mbentley> BARF
#2854 [20:15] <elmo> if it works
#2855 [20:15] <elmo> i'll format
#2856 [20:15] <elmo> and if not, i don't need to reformat \o\
#2857 [20:16] <Kealper> can i throw some windows fanboyism in here right quick?
#2858 [20:16] <mbentley> windows - it just works
#2859 [20:16] <elmo> Kealper: ofcourse!
#2860 [20:16] <elmo> Win <3
#2861 [20:16] <mbentley> dual boot
#2862 [20:16] <mbentley> WHOO
#2863 [20:16] <mbentley> i solved all of your problems
#2864 [20:16] <mbentley> :D
#2865 [20:16] <elmo> no paqing dual boot!
#2866 [20:16] <elmo> :(
#2867 [20:16] <Kealper> i've been rockin windows 7 since it came out last year....never. looked. back.
#2868 [20:16] <xales> Kealper, are you running Firefox 4 nightly or just beta RC
#2869 [20:16] <mbentley> i dual boot win7 and debian sid
#2870 [20:16] <elmo> Kealper: indeed Win7 is a great OS!
#2871 [20:17] <Kealper> xales: nightly
#2872 [20:17] <xales> I'm having some serious leak issues with 3.6 atm
#2873 [20:17] <Kealper> 3.6 is total garbage compared to 4
#2874 [20:17] <xales> I just had to kill it because it was using 1.4GB
#2875 [20:17] <xales> >.>
#2876 [20:17] <Kealper> i absolutely can not go back to 3.6
#2877 [20:17] <xales> Is it worth it to get nightly, or just the RC
#2878 [20:18] <Kealper> the rc would do, but the nightly you actually get to see new features and test them out beforehand
#2879 [20:18] <Kealper> although the nightly usually has like one update a day, so....lol
#2880 [20:18] <Kealper> but Firefox updates blazingly fast, so it's not annoying to do the daily updates
#2881 [20:19] <xales> I did the 3 beta
#2882 [20:19] <xales> and I had to go through hell it get 3 release to install
#2883 [20:19] <Kealper> RC will have more addon support, but Adblock Plus supports the latest nightlies
#2884 [20:19] <Kealper> and that's all i use, is just vanilla firefox with abp
#2885 [20:19] <xales> does the beta install over 3, or alongside?
#2886 [20:20] <Kealper> alongside, as it's called Minefield instead of Firefox lol
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#2889 [20:20] <Kealper> although, if you went with the RC, it would probably install over your current one
#2890 [20:21] <xales> lol Minefield
#2891 [20:22] <Kealper> the icon is the firefox world one, but instead of having a fox on it, it has a lit wick lol
#2892 [20:22] <xales> yeah, installed it
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#2894 [20:22] <Kealper> it's so fast though lol
#2895 [20:22] <xales> so, summarize
#2896 [20:22] <xales> major changes
#2897 [20:22] <xales> 3.6->current nightly
#2898 [20:22] <xales> :)
#2899 [20:23] <Kealper> literally the only similarity is that they are both Gecko based lol
#2900 [20:23] <xales> lol
#2901 [20:23] <xales> it looks like chrome a bit
#2902 [20:23] <Kealper> the nightlies are a whole new beast...fast, resposive....clean...
#2903 [20:23] <Kealper> all browsers are starting to make switches to look like this
#2904 [20:23] <Kealper> Opera looks similar, too
#2905 [20:24] <xales> lolbug
#2906 [20:24] <Kealper> up at the top right, where the button is that is just to the left of the minimize button...push that
#2907 [20:24] <xales> I just installed extensions over-top of my already installed same versions of the same extensions
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#2909 [20:25] <Kealper> that was just because it detected a version change, it'll do it again in 3.6 if you open that up
#2910 [20:25] <xales> lol
#2911 [20:25] <Kealper> so it's rather annoying to use both at the same time
#2912 [20:25] <xales> no, I mean I did it manually
#2913 [20:25] <Kealper> oh lol
#2914 [20:25] <Kealper> gg
#2915 [20:26] <Kyndwyn> can someone help me connect to a particular server? i have an account set up and am using the java client
#2916 [20:26] <Shadow386> use the ip
#2917 [20:26] <Kyndwyn> but i can't find an option to enter the IP
#2918 [20:26] <Kyndwyn> only a list of running servers
#2919 [20:26] <Shadow386> then you are choosing classic
#2920 [20:26] <Kyndwyn> ah
#2921 [20:27] <Kyndwyn> i have to buy the game then?
#2922 [20:28] <Shadow386> to play survival, yeah
#2923 [20:28] <Shadow386> survival/beta same thing
#2924 [20:28] <Shadow386> classic is free
#2925 [20:28] <Kyndwyn> okay...hey thanks man
#2926 [20:28] <Kyndwyn> i appreciate the help
#2927 [20:31] <xales> Kealper
#2928 [20:31] <xales> do tab groups work
#2929 [20:31] <xales> i tried to put a tab in a group and it just closed
#2930 [20:31] <xales> nevermind
#2931 [20:32] <xales> the button to list the tabs or whatever doesn't show up
#2932 [20:34] <Diablothein> Dudes, and possible dudettes, Justine Bieber is finally hitting puberty.
#2933 [20:34] <Sqozza> I must say.
#2934 [20:34] <Sqozza> Shit not given
#2935 [20:34] <Cial> oh did his voice crack?
#2936 [20:34] <ArmEagle> hmm shame.. spawn protection also means non-mods+ can't open/close doors
#2937 [20:34] <Sqozza> Now for something more interesting.
#2938 [20:34] <Sqozza> I have a carrot.
#2939 [20:35] <Cial> \o/ thank you jesus now he cant sing and will fade into obscurity
#2940 [20:36] <Sqozza> >implying jesus is real
#2941 [20:36] <Diablothein> Cial, her voice has gotten lower.
#2942 [20:36] <Sqozza> HEh
#2943 [20:36] <Sqozza> I can imagine justin bieber singing with a Dani Filth voice.
#2944 [20:36] <Sqozza> lolol
#2945 [20:36] <Diablothein> Missing an e.
#2946 [20:36] <Cial> Sqozza, what ever the fuck you pray to, that blot on musical history is almost gone
#2947 [20:36] <Diablothein> It's Justine, not Justin.
#2948 [20:37] <Sqozza> I pray to Khorne.
#2949 [20:37] <Sqozza> etc
#2950 [20:37] <Diablothein> Cial, worship the late God of Music: Ronnie James Dio.
#2951 [20:37] <Cial> yea it was a shame that Dio bit it
#2952 [20:38] <Diablothein> Yeah, and it's moreso a shame that the idiots from Westboro Baptist Church wanted to protest at his funeral.
#2953 [20:38] <Sqozza> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09vVF-Hvykg&feature=related
#2954 [20:38] <Sqozza> :D
#2955 [20:38] <Diablothein> To which if they would've gone through with their plans, there would've been a mass violent retaliation from a group of some 20 people.
#2956 [20:38] <Diablothein> Who were there locked and loaded.
#2957 [20:38] <Cial> Diablothein, that is one church i want to get shot up
#2958 [20:39] <Diablothein> hate group*
#2959 [20:39] <Cial> one of these days they will act like dumb asses and someones gonna kill a truck load of em
#2960 [20:40] <Diablothein> One guy I know was planning on getting a T-72 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-72 ) and sitting in that for the whole funeral.
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#2962 [20:41] <Sqozza> Diablothein, misfire!
#2963 [20:41] <Sqozza> Suddenly, coffin rocket.
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#2965 [20:41] <Diablothein> Sqozza, Do you really think he'd need to fire it? just drive it over the idiots.
#2966 [20:42] <Sqozza> +1 for roadkill bonus
#2967 [20:42] <Cial> heh
#2968 [20:42] <Cial> technically its legal to own a tank
#2969 [20:42] <Diablothein> As long as the turret is disabled.
#2970 [20:42] <Cial> sadly they must demilitarize it
#2971 [20:42] <Cial> thats what i said
#2972 [20:42] <Diablothein> Cial, I know where I could buy a fully operational T-72 :D
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#2974 [20:43] <Diablothein> -_- my uncle owns one, and is thinking of selling it for some 30 thousand.
#2975 [20:44] <Lorax> those things must be hell on the petrol bill
#2976 [20:44] <Diablothein> You've no idea.
#2977 [20:44] <Cial> :/ JUST BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE SOUTH!!
#2978 [20:44] <Cial> I really dont
#2979 [20:44] <Cial> maybe somewhere over seas
#2980 [20:45] <Sqozza> I LOVE this song.
#2981 [20:45] <Sqozza> "The Mundane and the Magic" - Dark Tranquillity
#2982 [20:45] <Cial> but getting it "here" would be a trick
#2983 [20:45] <Diablothein> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQHRNeY9zUU
#2984 [20:45] <Diablothein> Jay Leno's Tank Car should put it in perspective.
#2985 [20:45] <Diablothein> uses an M47 tank engine
#2986 [20:45] <elmo> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/2680-Minecraft
#2987 [20:46] <elmo> this made my night hahahha <3
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#2989 [20:52] <Lorax> Diablothein: that's excessive. :)
#2990 [20:52] <Diablothein> Lol, that's outdated.
#2991 [20:53] <Diablothein> He put turbos on it.
#2992 [20:53] <Diablothein> actually increased the gas mileage
#2993 [20:53] <Diablothein> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAG0O5d0wHY
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#2995 [20:55] <Diablothein> I'd take it, I really would.
#2996 [20:56] <Diablothein> 'cause that engine just sounds... *drool*
#2997 [20:59] <Lorax> I hate the 503 errors when attempting to get back on a server you have already connected to before
#2998 [20:59] <Lorax> if the node 503s, cull it from the group
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#3001 [21:11] <Roenie> is a 1-block overhang enough to stop a spider?
#3002 [21:11] <elmo> is it worth to format from Ubuntu -> Debian, just to test if Minecraft is working fine? :E
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#3004 [21:11] <Roenie> it's worth installing windows instead
#3005 [21:12] <Roenie> i'm going to convert my linux server to windows this week
#3006 [21:12] <elmo> Roenie: i just went from Windows to Linux
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#3008 [21:12] <Roenie> i use linux only for its native softraid
#3009 [21:12] <elmo> i don't have any use for Win
#3010 [21:12] <SniperXPX> is minecraft down?
#3011 [21:12] <elmo> so why should i run it?
#3012 [21:13] <Roenie> 2.1TB array
#3013 [21:13] <Kealper> !check minecraft.net:80
#3014 [21:13] <Kealper> seems like it
#3015 [21:13] <xales> Kealper
#3016 [21:13] <Roenie> array is stable and fast.. but everything else just is a pain
#3017 [21:13] <elmo> !check hakkerman.nu:443
#3018 [21:13] <xales> the button for the pretty list of tabs on ff4 is not there
#3019 [21:13] <SniperXPX> i can login and stuff but when i join a server, java throws an error
#3020 [21:13] <xales> SniperXPX: What error
#3021 [21:13] <elmo> Kealper: is it worth format AGAIN
#3022 [21:13] <elmo> ?
#3023 [21:13] <SniperXPX> holdon
#3024 [21:14] <elmo> :(
#3025 [21:14] <elmo> tho' it's 3.15AM here :E
#3026 [21:14] <SniperXPX> Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: COnnection reset
#3027 [21:14] <Kealper> xales: if the window is not fullscreened, it will be just below the close button in the top right
#3028 [21:14] <Kealper> elmo: format to what?
#3029 [21:14] <xales> Kealper: it wasn't there - I had to manually put it there
#3030 [21:14] <xales> just thought of that
#3031 [21:14] <elmo> Kealper: Ubuntu -> Debian
#3032 [21:14] <xales> SniperXPX: Try connecting to 'smp.shadow-craft.net'
#3033 [21:15] <elmo> just to test if Minecraft will work
#3034 [21:15] <xales> though I think the auth server is down
#3035 [21:15] <Kealper> elmo: probably not, but ultimately, that is up to you lol
#3036 [21:15] <SniperXPX> End of Stream and the 503 error for minecraft.net
#3037 [21:15] <elmo> argh
#3038 [21:15] <elmo> i guess i need to get back to Win...
#3039 [21:15] <xales> SniperXPX: Probably just related to minecraft.net being down
#3040 [21:15] <nipper> Auth servers are dead agian.
#3041 [21:15] <elmo> shitty
#3042 [21:15] <SniperXPX> thats what im thinking
#3043 [21:15] <SniperXPX> sucks that everything is so reliant on it
#3044 [21:16] <SniperXPX> i got in the server
#3045 [21:16] <SniperXPX> took like 20 tries
#3046 [21:16] <nipper> This issues was spose to be fixed like week+ agao.
#3047 [21:16] <xales> Not really, it prevents piracy, and there haven't been many issues with it before now
#3048 [21:17] <elmo> Kealper: so, last time. Will there ever be some kind of an bypass from MC?
#3049 [21:17] <elmo> that fixes this problem?
#3050 [21:17] <Kealper> elmo: it's a problem with ati drivers on linux, not minecraft :/
#3051 [21:18] <elmo> Kealper: I wonder it ATI will reply if i mail 'em about the problem
#3052 [21:18] <elmo> D:
#3053 [21:18] <Kealper> probably not :/
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#3056 [21:29] <statik> anyone have min specs for a linux server?
#3057 [21:34] <xales> statik: For how many players
#3058 [21:35] <statik> no more then 5
#3059 [21:35] <xales> Probably want 768MB minimum for the Minecraft server software
#3060 [21:36] <statik> i have a 1.4ghz lap with 2gigs ram running ubuntu i thought that would do for a small server
#3061 [21:36] <xales> and the system needs some as well, so 1GB RAM as long as nothing else is running
#3062 [21:36] <statik> nice
#3063 [21:36] <xales> That should be fine, except for the processor...
#3064 [21:36] <xales> not sure, but I don't think it will run that well
#3065 [21:36] <xales> you could always try it
#3066 [21:36] <statik> yeah ill give it a go
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#3068 [21:37] <statik> i have been playing on my duo 3.2 4gig so im kind of spoiled
#3069 [21:37] <statik> just thought if i could dedicate a lesser computer to the task it would be better
#3070 [21:37] <elmo> Kealper: mailed ATI dev team
#3071 [21:38] <elmo> If I don't get an answer by the next few days, I'll shove the latest kernel up thier... something
#3072 [21:40] <Kealper> lol
#3073 [21:40] <mbentley> prepare for shoving...
#3074 [21:43] * xales shoves mbentley into a locker
#3074 [21:43] <EmpiresBane> wow... i just spent 8 minutes cooking some potstickers
#3075 [21:43] * xales \o/s as mbentley was not prepared!
#3075 [21:43] <EmpiresBane> only to realize that i never turned the pan on and they weren't cooking
#3076 [21:43] <xales> Good work!
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#3078 [21:44] <EmpiresBane> what makes me feel like an idiot is that i sat in the kitchen and never realized the water wasn't boiling until after the 8 minutes
#3079 [21:44] <SkiingPenguins> did you stare at it?
#3080 [21:44] <EmpiresBane> for awhile, yes
#3081 [21:45] <EmpiresBane> better go check again to make sure i actually turned it on this time
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#3084 [21:47] <statik> ehh thats alright i changed the rear end on my truck today and forgot to tighten the lugs
#3085 [21:47] <statik> the back tire fell off and passed the truck
#3086 [21:47] <statik> dug a nice rut into the road also
#3087 [21:47] <EmpiresBane> that happened to my uncle
#3088 [21:47] <EmpiresBane> except he had taken it into a shop
#3089 [21:48] <statik> i felt sooo stupid in the middle of the street looking for my break drum
#3090 [21:48] <statik> lo
#3091 [21:48] <statik> l
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#3093 [21:49] <XaoMoaX> Quick question on carts for someone? If I build a track, and make a cart to move ore back someplace, do I need to make a circuit or something to control it?
#3094 [21:50] <statik> oh well good news is its all fixed up now
#3095 [21:50] <statik> dont think so
#3096 [21:50] <XaoMoaX> sweet. I just place it and the end, load it up, and it goes on it's own?
#3097 [21:50] <statik> what do you mean "control it?
#3098 [21:51] <XaoMoaX> make it go along the track
#3099 [21:51] <statik> you need to make a self powered cart
#3100 [21:51] <Kealper> i really like the idea about using a bot to voice people who are actively talking in here....
#3101 [21:51] <XaoMoaX> ah. I need one with fuel
#3102 [21:52] <XaoMoaX> It's my first time pondering a proper mining cart circuit/station on the outside, so I was wondering
#3103 [21:52] <XaoMoaX> So first, I need a powered one, to control the others that just hold things
#3104 [21:52] <statik> right you need a cart that you feed coal to then run it from one end to the other
#3105 [21:53] <mbentley> but Kealper, how do you determine who is actively talking AND being helpful?
#3106 [21:53] <statik> just knock the power car off and put it at the end when you want it to go the other way
#3107 [21:53] <Kealper> that's the issue i guess :/
#3108 [21:53] <XaoMoaX> so if I run it up a path to the exit, how do I determine it returning to me?
#3109 [21:53] <Kealper> although if you are on the VOP list you automatically have more power (through chanserv) than someone who was just voiced from someone else
#3110 [21:53] <statik> you would have to return it yourself
#3111 [21:54] <statik> i think
#3112 [21:54] <XaoMoaX> So far, I've got one hell of a tunnel dug down into the ground. My plan was to build track going up, to a little station outside the mine. It's very narrow in some spots due to bedrock down there
#3113 [21:54] <Kealper> mbentley: try messaging chanserv with the message kick #MineCraftHelp aubot
#3114 [21:55] <statik> right i have a setup like that also
#3115 [21:55] <statik> fill up a storage cart then send it up to deal with later
#3116 [21:55] <EmpiresBane> what's the point of voicing people here?
#3117 [21:56] <XaoMoaX> Yup, that's what I wanted to know how to do.
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#3119 [21:56] <Kealper> users on the VOP list have been shown to be helpful to others, and active
#3120 [21:56] <XaoMoaX> So I need a storage, then put a fuel one behind it, pop in fuel, and let it zoom up
#3121 [21:56] <statik> yep
#3122 [21:56] <statik> thats the one
#3123 [21:56] <Guest1390139293> what?
#3124 [21:56] <Guest1390139293> my names in use
#3125 [21:56] <XaoMoaX> A shame there's nothing to make it autounload
#3126 [21:56] <XaoMoaX> at a point
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#3129 [21:57] <mbentley> WHOO
#3130 [21:57] <Guest1390139293> lies
#3131 [21:57] <EmpiresBane> why can't we do that manuelly?
#3132 [21:57] <mbentley> IN YOUR FACE AUBOT
#3133 [21:57] <statik> as far as i know there is no such thing
#3134 [21:57] <Kealper> EmpiresBane: VOP through chanserv gives them higher permissions than standard voiced users, they can kick people
#3135 [21:57] <XaoMoaX> Statik, I appreciate the rail help though man. I'm kind of excited to make my first one
#3136 [21:57] <ItsCriminal> hi
#3137 [21:57] <XaoMoaX> I plan to use this as my main station for mining down into the earth in my single player
#3138 [21:57] <Kealper> so they'd be like channel moderators lol
#3139 [21:57] <statik> its also fun to hop in a cart and ride it to the bottom
#3140 [21:57] <ItsCriminal> what is exactly the programm MCSharp?
#3141 [21:58] <XaoMoaX> hehe
#3142 [21:58] <statik> :)
#3143 [21:58] <EmpiresBane> i think we have enough ops right now
#3144 [21:58] <XaoMoaX> Two more quick Q's if you don't mind?
#3145 [21:58] <statik> shoot .. if i cant help someone else will
#3146 [21:58] <XaoMoaX> One, is slime ever returning? I bought beta after it'd been removed, and I honestly think it looks cool, and fits the mood of the game, from what I've seen in video's
#3147 [21:58] <Kealper> EmpiresBane: that's why they arn't ops, they can't ban, change channel topic, or anything else, just kick
#3148 [21:58] <EmpiresBane> MCSharp is a custom server, correct?
#3149 [21:59] <Kealper> and if they are on the VOP list, then they have shown us that they can be mature and responsible
#3150 [21:59] <statik> that i have no idea on
#3151 [21:59] <SinZ> XaoMoaX: its because notch made a mistake
#3152 [21:59] <SinZ> EmpiresBane: for creative, yes
#3153 [21:59] <EmpiresBane> but why would we need the bot to doit?
#3154 [21:59] <ItsCriminal> so i stay better on the original mincraft file
#3155 [21:59] <XaoMoaX> Oh...on slimes? A shame. I think they were awesome
#3156 [21:59] <XaoMoaX> anyways, last one, honest
#3157 [21:59] <Kealper> EmpiresBane: bot to do what?
#3158 [21:59] <EmpiresBane> auto voice people
#3159 [21:59] <SinZ> XaoMoaX: he mixed up the y and z
#3160 [22:00] <Kealper> for the idea i said?
#3161 [22:00] <XaoMoaX> I have a circuit setup in the home, going to a switch to open my steel door. On the outside, I'd like to makesomething open it too. But I can't seem to lead a circuit to it.
#3162 [22:00] <SinZ> ehh
#3163 [22:00] <EmpiresBane> ItsCriminal, MCSharp has way more features
#3164 [22:00] <Kealper> that was just a random thing to have it show all active (actually talking within the last like half hour or so) people
#3165 [22:00] <Kealper> i would not actually do that, i'm far too lazy to code that
#3166 [22:00] <ItsCriminal> well if i use it do i lose my craft level then?
#3167 [22:01] <SinZ> XaoMoaX: what is your circuit doing
#3168 [22:01] <EmpiresBane> craft level?
#3169 [22:01] <ItsCriminal> the world
#3170 [22:01] <XaoMoaX> When I put a switch and lead it to the iron door on the outside, it glows, but doesn't open the door or close it.
#3171 [22:01] <XaoMoaX> It seems to not go right up to it, if that makes sense?
#3172 [22:01] <SinZ> is the wire facing the block the doors on?
#3173 [22:02] <EmpiresBane> oh... i'm not sure what format MCSharp uses, but there should be a converter
#3174 [22:02] <xales> XaoMoaX: Connect it to the block the door is touching, not the door itself
#3175 [22:02] <XaoMoaX> I try, it won't let me
#3176 [22:02] <XaoMoaX> since it's connected to it inside
#3177 [22:02] <SinZ> XaoMoaX: singleplayer or multiplayer
#3178 [22:02] <XaoMoaX> single
#3179 [22:02] <SinZ> mmk
#3180 [22:02] <XaoMoaX> I know, I suck
#3181 [22:02] <ItsCriminal> ok i think i will try it an other day
#3182 [22:02] <XaoMoaX> But, Ima tryin
#3183 [22:02] <ItsCriminal> thank you anyway :D
#3184 [22:02] <SinZ> who has a smp server i can use to show him
#3185 [22:03] <XaoMoaX> hmmm...let me go toy with it more first
#3186 [22:03] <xales> SinZ: smp.shadow-craft.net:25570
#3187 [22:03] <SinZ> ty
#3188 [22:03] <xales> the give command is public
#3189 [22:03] <SinZ> so its a build server
#3190 [22:03] <xales> yup
#3191 [22:03] <SinZ> =D
#3192 [22:03] <SinZ> mobs?
#3193 [22:04] <xales> yeah
#3194 [22:04] <XaoMoaX> Tell you what, let me make sure it's not user error on my part
#3195 [22:04] <SinZ> iv had 3 dif errors trying to join it
#3196 [22:04] <XaoMoaX> play with it a little more
#3197 [22:04] <XaoMoaX> and I'll return if I still can't get it
#3198 [22:05] <xales> SinZ: Tis probably related to minecraft.net not working again
#3199 [22:05] <XaoMoaX> The minecart thing was my main issue
#3200 [22:05] <XaoMoaX> But, thank all of you for the quick help as always
#3201 [22:05] <SinZ> End of Steam, Protocol Error, and the 503 error showing the url servers use to authenticate for smp
#3202 [22:05] <XaoMoaX> Wish me luck :)
#3203 [22:05] <XaoMoaX> I did at least make water traps outside to wash away the zombies
#3204 [22:05] <xales> SinZ: re-open your client and try again
#3205 [22:06] <xales> but minecraft.net is down, so not much else to try
#3206 [22:06] <Lorethian> Alrighty, back
#3207 [22:06] <SinZ> cant conne-
#3208 [22:07] <Lorethian> Anyone who might be able to help with my router/double-nat issues?
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#3212 [22:09] <Rivitingone> Anyone haveing problems connecting to minecraft.net
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#3214 [22:09] <xales> Yes
#3215 [22:09] <Pirate-Jake> -insert rage here-
#3216 [22:09] <Rivitingone> Any workaround?
#3217 [22:10] <Pirate-Jake> wait nevermind
#3218 [22:10] <xales> Nope, just gotta wait a bit for it to come back up, or play offline
#3219 [22:10] <Pirate-Jake> its up
#3220 [22:10] <Rivitingone> Still nothing here
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#3222 [22:11] <SinZ> did minecraft.net go back down
#3223 [22:11] <Pirate-Jake> apparently
#3224 [22:11] <Rivitingone> Apparently
#3225 [22:11] <SinZ> it went up for a tiny bit, then went back down
#3226 [22:11] <SinZ> joy
#3227 [22:12] <Rivitingone> Any idea what's up?
#3228 [22:12] <Pirate-Jake> blame jeb
#3229 [22:12] <xales> They are having more issues with it
#3230 [22:12] <Armalite> minecraft everything is down
#3231 [22:12] <xales> still waiting on moving it to a new providers
#3232 [22:12] <mbentley> the system is down, yo
#3233 [22:12] <Pirate-Jake> !up
#3234 [22:12] <xales> s/s//
#3235 [22:12] <mbentley> swiss cake roll in the disk drive again
#3236 [22:12] <mbentley> :(
#3237 [22:13] <izzd> the master server downgrade went well then?
#3238 [22:13] <SinZ> i got in =D
#3239 [22:14] <Rivitingone> While I'm here does anyone ever have the issue where after death or when first loading to a server you just fall for like 60 sec?
#3240 [22:14] <xales> Rivitingone: Nope
#3241 [22:14] <xales> that sounds like lag
#3242 [22:14] <Armalite> back up
#3243 [22:15] <Rivitingone> It is my server. I've tried running the client on both the same computer and another connected via lan
#3244 [22:15] <Rivitingone> and a friend has the same issue
#3245 [22:16] <Rivitingone> Its like the server won't load chunks for like a minute
#3246 [22:16] <xales> What are the specs of the computer its running on?
#3247 [22:17] <Rivitingone> 2.8 quad core amd, 4 gigs of ram
#3248 [22:17] <Rivitingone> Not running anything else
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#3250 [22:18] <Rivitingone> my internet connection is 25MBs down 250K up
#3251 [22:18] <SinZ> eh xales
#3252 [22:18] <SinZ> why am i a loner on the server
#3253 [22:18] <SinZ> and i cant build
#3254 [22:18] <Rivitingone> I still can';t get in
#3255 [22:18] <xales> SinZ: The survival not-freebuild one is more popular
#3256 [22:18] <xales> Rivitingone: That upstream is possibly the issue
#3257 [22:18] <SinZ> this one is still survival tho
#3258 [22:19] <SinZ> the mobs are raping me
#3259 [22:19] <Rivitingone> but I get the same issue when running it on a lan or even on the same server using 127.0.0.1
#3260 [22:20] <xales> Rivitingone: How are you launching it? The .exe?
#3261 [22:20] <xolotl> Rivitingone: I have the appearing-to-fall-for-awhile thing happen quite often, though rarely for as long as 60sec
#3262 [22:20] <Rivitingone> Another question. Do you guys respawn in the same spot every time?
#3263 [22:20] <xales> Yes, Rivitingone
#3264 [22:20] <Rivitingone> I'll respawn anyware randomly within a seeming 30X30 area
#3265 [22:21] <xolotl> I'm pretty sure you respawn anywhere within the "home" chunk
#3266 [22:21] <xales> Any mods?
#3267 [22:21] <xales> xolotl: I always respawn in one area
#3268 [22:21] <xales> one place*
#3269 [22:21] <xolotl> (which would be 16x16)
#3270 [22:21] <xolotl> Hm
#3271 [22:21] <xolotl> Pretty sure I've seen variability, I could be wrong
#3272 [22:21] <xolotl> Been awhile since I've had to respawn. :)
#3273 [22:22] <xales> I'm 99% sure its the same
#3274 [22:22] <xolotl> You're probably right then.
#3275 [22:22] <Rivitingone> I'm currently running runecraft but its been the same with no mods
#3276 [22:22] <xales> Are you using the .EXE or .jar?
#3277 [22:22] <Rivitingone> Sometimes I'll spawn on a platform I have build above the spawn area at the top of the world
#3278 [22:22] <Rivitingone> .jar atm
#3279 [22:23] <Rivitingone> tbut again had the same issues with both .jar and .exe
#3280 [22:23] <xales> Tried a different world?
#3281 [22:23] <Rivitingone> It seems to be fine at the start
#3282 [22:23] <Rivitingone> but then as time goes on it gets bad
#3283 [22:24] <xales> That is very weird...
#3284 [22:24] <Rivitingone> the server shows it using somewhere around 220 MB
#3285 [22:24] <Rivitingone> ram
#3286 [22:24] <Rivitingone> twhen I load or when someone dies
#3287 [22:24] <SinZ> xales: it varies
#3288 [22:25] <xales> SinZ: Not on any server I've played on
#3289 [22:25] <Rivitingone> but that is 95% free still
#3290 [22:25] <SinZ> what software does it use xales
#3291 [22:25] <xales> Vanilla
#3292 [22:25] <xales> :P
#3293 [22:25] <SinZ> 0.o
#3294 [22:25] <SinZ> it is not vannila
#3295 [22:25] <SinZ> vannila only has op commands
#3296 [22:26] <Rivitingone> at idle the server is using 30MB with nobody connected
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#3298 [22:26] <xales> SinZ: That or any other server
#3299 [22:26] <xales> most servers I play on are vanilla
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#3301 [22:28] <SinZ> xales, howcome everyone has built in spawn area
#3302 [22:28] <xales> ?
#3303 [22:28] * xales pokes Shadow386
#3303 [22:28] <Rivitingone> ok just loaded in. Took 18 seconds before anything loaded except for mobs that I fell past. The server showed 246 MB of ram being used durring those 16 seconds.
#3304 [22:28] <Rivitingone> t18
#3305 [22:30] <SinZ> xales: I'm stuck in a area i cant build in
#3306 [22:31] <xales> SinZ: Spawn protection is built-in and its to keep someone from say
#3307 [22:31] <xales> putting lava all around the spawn
#3308 [22:31] <xales> :P
#3309 [22:31] <SinZ> xales, yet everyone has built in spawn
#3310 [22:31] <SinZ> like it didn't exist
#3311 [22:32] <xales> what?
#3312 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Then ops did it
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#3315 [22:35] <Noctusxx> is this a place for some support help with minecraft?
#3316 [22:35] <xolotl> Noctusxx: yep
#3317 [22:37] <Noctusxx> my game is crashing every so often. it jsut goes to a blank screen within the game window, and then gives a program not responding error. I have updated Java and my vid card drivers. is this a common beta bug?
#3318 [22:37] <xales> Nope
#3319 [22:37] <Noctusxx> its kinda sucking cause when i go back in often my inventory is missing itesm, or block work that i have done is gone.
#3320 [22:37] <xales> What are the specs of your computer?
#3321 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#3322 [22:38] <crickets> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3323 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#3324 [22:39] <Noctusxx> intel dual 3.ghz 8 gig ram, win 7 pro, dual geforce gtx 260s runnign SLI and an onboard sound card
#3325 [22:40] <xales> Do you have any 'antivirus' or 'security' program running?
#3326 [22:40] <Noctusxx> AVG
#3327 [22:41] <xales> Try disabling the 'GuardianShield' part of it ( I think that is the name ) and running it again
#3328 [22:41] <xales> (Running Minecraft again)
#3329 [22:41] <Noctusxx> ok, will do, tks
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#3331 [22:48] <Lorethian> Grey, are you available atm?
#3332 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> With?
#3333 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> For/
#3334 [22:48] <xales> GreyVulpine: I may know the issue
#3335 [22:48] <Lorethian> I'm trying to guide a friend through the port forwarding process, he's not set up in an annoying way like me
#3336 [22:48] <xales> look at his hostmask
#3337 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> ?
#3338 [22:49] <xales> it could be an overeager ISP filtering
#3339 [22:49] <xales> PPPoE
#3340 [22:50] <xales> Lorethian: It would probably be more helpful if the friend came on, but either way, Grey or I can help
#3341 [22:50] <xales> I just realized
#3342 [22:51] <xales> Minecraft account trading hasn't started yet
#3343 [22:51] <xales> but we can look forward to it at some point, I'd imagine
#3344 [22:51] <xales> >.>
#3345 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> ....
#3346 [22:51] <xales> ?
#3347 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Nice work, you killed the channel xales.
#3348 [22:54] <xales> I'm a murderer
#3349 [22:54] <xales> I'll surrender now
#3350 [22:55] <lemon-rev> dont do that, i just got in, any more compaints ill have to tell em to melt in the sun down here lol
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#3352 [23:04] <xales> Grey
#3353 [23:04] <xales> did you ever bother to learn how traceroute works?
#3354 [23:04] <xales> It is quite bothersome
#3355 [23:04] <xales> :(
#3356 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Meh
#3357 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I just got back from an intense match
#3358 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Got 6 kills
#3359 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Sherman tank + 105mm howitzer = dead tanks
#3360 [23:05] <xales> lol
#3361 [23:05] <xales> Its an ICMP packet sent
#3362 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Was just me and another dude, versus 4-5 other tanks
#3363 [23:05] <xales> with increasing TTL, starting at one
#3364 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> mmhmm
#3365 [23:06] <xales> bitch to write a custom one
#3366 [23:06] <xales> :(
#3367 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#3368 [23:07] <xales> I know!
#3369 [23:07] <xales> Why don't you do it
#3370 [23:07] <xales> :>
#3371 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> Pay me 50 bucks and I might
#3372 [23:09] <xales> Sure, here is how this is going to work
#3373 [23:09] <xales> You give me 50 dollars
#3374 [23:09] <xales> and I'll pay it back to you
#3375 [23:09] <xales> >:)
#3376 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, no
#3377 [23:10] <Lorethian> Dang, no luck with my friend either... he's clueless with the ins and outs of computers XD
#3378 [23:10] <Lorethian> Grey, what was that program you were talking about?
#3379 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Teamviewer
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#3381 [23:11] <Lorethian> Is now a convenient time? Or are you still otherwised engaged? :3
#3382 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Is he willing to let another person remote in and take control of his computer?
#3383 [23:12] <Lorethian> I was thinking me ^.^; Or is the double-nat thing too much of a headache>?
#3384 [23:13] <xales> Is he on double-NAT as well?
#3385 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> Ah, well, we can try it with either of you
#3386 [23:14] <Lorethian> not from what I can tell, though he might be misunderstanding how it's set up
#3387 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> xales, you want a crack at this?
#3388 [23:14] <xales> On my craptop
#3389 [23:14] <xales> :(
#3390 [23:14] <xales> Can't teamview from this
#3391 [23:14] <Lorethian> Just lemme close all my... incriminating windows~
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#3393 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#3394 [23:15] <Lorethian> Again, if this is a hassle, don't worry about it
#3395 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> No hassle at all
#3396 [23:15] <Lorethian> I appreciate all the help done up to here anyway
#3397 [23:17] <Lorethian> So how does this work? Do we trade IDs?
#3398 [23:18] <xales> You should query (PM) him your ID and password (that it gives you)
#3399 [23:18] <SinZ> ./msg
#3400 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> /msg greyvulpine works better
#3401 [23:19] <SinZ> or /notice greyvulpine this works even better
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#3403 [23:19] <DV3k> So I understand this channel is for help with official Minecraft help... Where might one go for Mod related questions?
#3404 [23:19] <SinZ> what mod
#3405 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft for SP, or #bukkit
#3406 [23:20] <DV3k> Mod Manager is telling me that Mo Creatures and FarmCraft are incompatibile... Curious if there is a way around that.
#3407 [23:20] <SinZ> well, it uses same files
#3408 [23:20] <SinZ> so they need to settle with eachother
#3409 [23:20] <SinZ> to have a version using the other mod in it and vice versa
#3410 [23:21] <xales> DV3k: #risucraft
#3411 [23:21] <DV3k> Thx xales
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#3413 [23:22] <xales> :0
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#3415 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#3416 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#3417 [23:24] <Derek> So I just bought it. And I'm -still- not a premium after a few hours. Any idea what's going on? :(
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#3419 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Now, the default gateway/router is listed at 192.168.0.1, and is a dlink. why doesn't http://192.168.0.1 work
#3420 [23:25] <Gomer3261> Hello
#3421 [23:25] <BrentD> Is this normal behavior for water, or am I mistaken? http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8876/20110131220602.png
#3422 [23:25] <xales> Thats normal
#3423 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> That's pretty normal BrentD
#3424 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Derek - I'd wait a bit longer
#3425 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Seems minecraft's website is having issues right now
#3426 [23:26] <Gomer3261> I'm trying to connect to a server running in my local area network. The server works fine over the internet and from the computer running it, but I can't seem to join over lan. Is there a known issue or is it something to do with the minecraft.net issues?
#3427 [23:26] <BrentD> Any idea how to get normal water back? I can't pour buckets of water in there
#3428 [23:26] <Derek> Ok then. I just hope I don't lose anything in financial limbo. :P
#3429 [23:26] <Derek> Thanks for the reply
#3430 [23:27] <xales> Derek: It is extremely unlikely that payment info just got lost, so it just may take a bit
#3431 [23:27] <xales> BrentD: Fill it up so there is only one tile of water going downwards, then fill it up with buckets
#3432 [23:28] <xales> fill it up wth dirt or something
#3433 [23:28] <xales> so its only one deep
#3434 [23:28] <xales> then place water so its still
#3435 [23:28] <xales> then dig the filler out
#3436 [23:28] <BrentD> Ah, thanks
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#3439 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Weird. dlink router wouldn't even pull up the config page via browser
#3440 [23:37] <xales> O_o
#3441 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Told Lorethian to hard reset the router
#3442 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> See if that'll help
#3443 [23:39] <Lorethian> I shouldn't still be seeing you guys.. o.o;
#3444 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> That was quick.
#3445 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Might not have pinged out yet
#3446 [23:39] <Lorethian> It never happened, I should have been DCed, right?
#3447 [23:40] <Lorethian> And I'm trying that 192.168.0.1, and it's still not happening
#3448 [23:40] <BrentD> What about 192.168.1.1?
#3449 [23:40] <xales> GreyVulpine: Client would have made a new connection though
#3450 [23:40] <BrentD> That's for my router
#3451 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#3452 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> And Lorethian's router is 192.168.0.1
#3453 [23:40] <BrentD> Ah
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#3455 [23:40] <Lorethian> brb
#3456 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> You sure you hard reset your router correctly?
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#3458 [23:45] <Lorethian> Yeah, I poked into the little hole until I felt a soft but unmistakeable button-press
#3459 [23:45] <xales> Lorethian: You might have to hold it down for a few seconds
#3460 [23:45] <Lorethian> I counted to 15 :(
#3461 [23:46] <xales> O_o
#3462 [23:46] <BrentD> You could also unplug it and keep it away from electricity for 5 minutes or so
#3463 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't work
#3464 [23:46] <BrentD> Funny, it does for my router
#3465 [23:46] <BrentD> Then again, I have a Netgear
#3466 [23:49] <Lorethian> My friend went conspicuously offline... I hope he didn't muck up his internet connection following that video I linked him XD
#3467 [23:50] <xolotl> Probably was following along and got to the bit in the video when it said "now unplug this" and is waiting for the video to finish buffering to continue. :)
#3468 [23:50] <xales> xolotl: ._.
#3469 [23:50] <Lorethian> lol, naw, it was port forwarding
#3470 [23:53] <Lorethian> So, in this video I was looking at, the guy doing it was saying that you can customize your IP address... it doesn't seem to make sense, though, because the address was preset for 192.168.0.___
#3471 [23:53] <Lorethian> And only the last 3 were customizable
#3472 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> That's right
#3473 [23:54] <Lorethian> So I assume that's not what people would type in to connect to your game, right?
#3474 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> No
#3475 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> That's just your internal IP
#3476 [23:54] <Lorethian> That's just where the data is going in your router?
#3477 [23:54] <Lorethian> Right, okay
#3478 [23:55] <Lorethian> Is port forwarding a requisite step? Or is it something that's only needed often?
#3479 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#3480 [23:56] <Lorethian> Like, if he hosts a server, do we NEED to get him to set up port forwarding
#3481 [23:56] <Lorethian> ?
#3482 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3483 [23:56] <Lorethian> Alrighty
#3484 [23:57] <Lorethian> This ain't good either... just trying to fiddle around with my local host, now when I try to log in to "localhost", it says "Failed to login: Bad Login"
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