#1 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
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#6 [00:10] * aetherian annoyingly asks the common question, "Any news on minecraft classic?"
#6 [00:11] <Lorethian> can someone do me a big favour, and try to join game hosted by 72.139.121.78 ?
#7 [00:11] <xales> !check 72.139.121.78
#8 [00:11] <xales> port is forwarded correctly
#9 [00:11] <xales> at least
#10 [00:11] <Lorethian> Huh o.o
#11 [00:12] <aetherian> oh, bots.
#12 [00:12] <aetherian> don'tcha love 'em
#13 [00:14] <aetherian> so uh
#14 [00:14] <aetherian> any news on classic?
#15 [00:14] <xales> yes
#16 [00:14] <xales> Notch said its fixed now
#17 [00:14] <xales> but only aetherian can't play
#18 [00:14] <LG_Legacy> wat
#19 [00:14] <aetherian> ;_;
#20 [00:14] <xales> :)
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#22 [00:14] * aetherian stabs xales
#22 [00:14] <aetherian> now you can't either
#23 [00:16] <Lorethian> So anyone know what this "Bad Login" jazz is about?
#24 [00:17] <xales> Do you only get it on that server?
#25 [00:17] <Lorethian> I get it on mine to
#26 [00:17] <xales> What is your username?
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#29 [00:21] <overflow> Hello im hosting a server and im having a problem and keep getting disconnect.overflow errors can anyone help?
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#32 [00:21] <xales> Sure
#33 [00:21] <xales> Are there any mods on the server?
#34 [00:21] <AG_Elias> overflow: Besides the irony of your name, could you pastebin your server log?
#35 [00:21] <Lorethian> got it working :D Thanks guys... at least, my friend does
#36 [00:22] <xales> Lorethian: No problem
#37 [00:22] <overflow> sure can give me a moment there are no mods running on it
#38 [00:23] <overflow> the server.txt file correct?
#39 [00:24] <AG_Elias> No, your server console log.
#40 [00:24] <AG_Elias> Which should be server.log
#41 [00:24] <Kaikz> Creepers gonna creep http://cl.ly/4KUI
#42 [00:27] <aetherian> lolmac
#43 [00:28] <overflow> it should be in the folder with the server correct. all i have is server.log.lck
#44 [00:32] <xales> overflow: Correct
#45 [00:34] <overflow> i opened it up in notepad and it is blank
#46 [00:34] <xales> Not the .lck file
#47 [00:34] <xales> anyway
#48 [00:35] <xales> what are the specs of the computer you are trying to run the server on?
#49 [00:36] <overflow> a Core 2 E6600 4gb of ram
#50 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> Running the latest server?
#51 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> Any mods?
#52 [00:42] <xales> GreyVulpine: Now you killed it.
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#54 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Bah
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#56 [00:44] <mib_o6dajr> hello, i was just here about the overflow problem, got d/c
#57 [00:45] <xales> 00:36:18 <@GreyVulpine> Running the latest server?
#58 [00:45] <xales> 00:36:21 <@GreyVulpine> Any mods?
#59 [00:45] <xales> ._.
#60 [00:45] <xales> fail
#61 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> Nice one xales.
#62 [00:45] <xales> Thanks!
#63 [00:45] <KillSpammer> Wtf
#64 [00:46] <KillSpammer> Why does he do that?
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#66 [00:47] <KillSpammer> Welcome back Dced again?
#67 [00:47] <KillSpammer> <GreyVulpine> Running the latest server?
#68 [00:47] <KillSpammer> <GreyVulpine> Any mods?
#69 [00:47] <KillSpammer> :P
#70 [00:47] <overflow> yea my irc client is giving me some issue, using mibbit
#71 [00:47] <xales> Mibbit is crap
#72 [00:47] <xales> don't use it
#73 [00:47] <xales> :)
#74 [00:47] <overflow> latest server, no mods
#75 [00:47] <KillSpammer> Why didn't i work for me xales
#76 [00:47] <xales> anyway..
#77 [00:47] <KillSpammer> Fuck you magicka now i lost my save
#78 [00:48] <xales> what OS on the server?
#79 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> Brand of NIC?
#80 [00:48] <overflow> wind7, marvell
#81 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin the server log where this error occurs?
#82 [00:49] <overflow> yea
#83 [00:50] <overflow> http://mibpaste.com/D5loLW
#84 [00:51] <overflow> hope that isnt too much of it
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#86 [00:53] <llama> account wont connect
#87 [00:53] <xales> llama: define 'wont connect'
#88 [00:53] <xales> ...
#89 [00:54] <xales> overflow: How are you launching the server?
#90 [00:54] <overflow> just opening the minecraf server.exe
#91 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> overflow - Is it only that one guy having the problem?
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#93 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> And can you confirm that you're running beta 1.2_01?
#94 [00:56] <overflow> no when one person starts having the issue everyone else starts lagging and it ends up happening to them too
#95 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Well, lagging, or actually geting the disconnect.overflow
#96 [00:57] <overflow> they lag and then most of the time they also get disconnect.overflow
#97 [00:58] <xales> Is there one person that always gets the lag first?
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#99 [00:58] <overflow> the server software is the one from minecraft.net, downloaded it just yesterday
#100 [00:58] <overflow> it doesn't seem to be the same person every time
#101 [00:59] <xales> Do you have any
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#103 [00:59] <xales> 'firewall' or 'security' software running?
#104 [00:59] <thatnimrod> talking to me?
#105 [01:00] <xales> nope
#106 [01:00] <overflow> no firewall software, i am running AVG Anti-virus free
#107 [01:00] <thatnimrod> *nod*
#108 [01:00] <Shadow386> xales are you running any pie or cheese software?
#109 [01:00] <xales> Shadow386: Just my cheese grater
#110 [01:00] <overflow> also Windows firewall is not on
#111 [01:00] <xales> overflow: What other applications do you have open?
#112 [01:00] <Shadow386> what company and version?
#113 [01:00] <thatnimrod> brb
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#115 [01:00] <Shadow386> I got the CheeseMaster version 2.3.1
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#117 [01:01] <xales> Shadow386: Quote from the Arch install CD, "If you are looking to install Arch on something more exotic, such as your kerosene-powered cheese grater, look at (URL)"
#118 [01:01] <thatnimrod> that's better
#119 [01:01] <Shadow386> hah
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#121 [01:01] <Shadow386> i remember that
#122 [01:01] <xales> Shadow386: :>
#123 [01:01] <aetherian> heh
#124 [01:01] <overflow> at the time of the errors, i had a google chrome window open and resource monitor open
#125 [01:01] <xales> Shadow386: Come hang out in #lobby with the cool people
#126 [01:02] <xales> overflow: Were any of them particularly high?
#127 [01:03] <overflow> no, i was watching CPU usage and nothing was maxed, also was only using 40% of my ram at the time
#128 [01:03] <xales> Are you on Wifi, by any chance?
#129 [01:03] <thatnimrod> ok, so, i have a question or two… some problems i'm running into. #1, i'm running my minecraft server on my mac, but i can't login to my own server? i can even see the console telling me it "lost the connection" to 127.0.0.1 and the client tells me i'm not premium. you mean to play on my own server i have to go premium?
#130 [01:03] <overflow> no wired directly into my dlink router
#131 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> thatnimrod - Yes
#132 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> thatnimrod - You need to pay to play beta
#133 [01:04] <thatnimrod> gotcha
#134 [01:04] <xales> overflow: Network speed? (particularly upstream)
#135 [01:04] <thatnimrod> problem #2, my client won't update. do i have to pay to get updates?
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#137 [01:05] <Checkzor> Ok
#138 [01:05] <xales> thatnimrod: You have to pay to play it at all
#139 [01:05] <Checkzor> moving on
#140 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> thatnimrod - Again, you need to pay to play
#141 [01:05] <xales> It isn't free
#142 [01:05] <Checkzor> how do i keep my server running when i exit putty
#143 [01:05] <thatnimrod> i've been playing offline for, like, a week
#144 [01:05] <xales> Checkzor: screen
#145 [01:05] <xales> thatnimrod: Then you are playing a pirated version - the game isn't free
#146 [01:05] <Checkzor> I have screen
#147 [01:05] <thatnimrod> i just wanted to make a cake!
#148 [01:05] <Checkzor> no idea what I'm doing though
#149 [01:05] <Checkzor> lol
#150 [01:05] <thatnimrod> i didnt pirate it, i dont even know how
#151 [01:05] <Checkzor> oh wait
#152 [01:05] <Checkzor> it worked
#153 [01:06] <Checkzor> i closed it when changed to the other session
#154 [01:06] <Checkzor> and it's still up
#155 [01:06] <Checkzor> Thanks xales!
#156 [01:06] <thatnimrod> wouldn't you have to fake a server authentication to "pirate" the game?
#157 [01:06] <xales> thatnimrod: Or just use an modified version.
#158 [01:06] <overflow> i think last time i ran a speed test i was getting, 13Mb down, 200Kb up
#159 [01:06] <Checkzor> wait a sec
#160 [01:06] <xales> Once again, the game isn't free and you can't just download and play it.
#161 [01:06] <thatnimrod> oh. *shrug* i didn't know that.
#162 [01:06] <Checkzor> xales you tricked me!
#163 [01:06] <overflow> ran that test about a week ago
#164 [01:06] <xales> ._.
#165 [01:06] <Checkzor> I did it myself!
#166 [01:06] <Checkzor> pshhh
#167 [01:07] <thatnimrod> xales, i thought that was the point? that anyone could pick it up and play it to try it and then you pay to play online?
#168 [01:07] <xales> thatnimrod: No
#169 [01:07] <thatnimrod> fuck me, i didnt know
#170 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#171 [01:07] <thatnimrod> i thought that's normal, sorry guys
#172 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> And I just checked again, there's no way you can get the offline SP files without actually paying for premium through the site
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#174 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> Somebody else had the same claim yesterday
#175 [01:08] <thatnimrod> offline sp?
#176 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> offline single player
#177 [01:08] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, you can download the actual files though.
#178 [01:08] <xales> thatnimrod: The game download on minecraft.net only includes a launcher program - it doesn't download the game until you log in with a premium account
#179 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> The server only lets you download the single player files if your account is marked as paid/premium
#180 [01:08] <KillSpammer> Just not login
#181 [01:08] <Checkzor> maybe some of these guys pirating it found a link to when it was free for a day??
#182 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> KillSpammer - Nope, I just checked
#183 [01:09] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, oh so they changed that now
#184 [01:09] <KillSpammer> Good
#185 [01:09] <xales> Checkzor: That only happened once, a very long time ago
#186 [01:09] <xales> well, not very long
#187 [01:09] <Checkzor> ahh
#188 [01:09] <xales> but a while ago
#189 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> At least several months
#190 [01:09] <KillSpammer> It was like 7 months ago
#191 [01:09] <KillSpammer> Ohshit i've had minecraft for 7 months
#192 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Noo...
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#194 [01:09] <overflow> xales: i think last time i ran a speed test i was getting, 13Mb down, 200Kb up
#195 [01:09] <thatnimrod> oh! oh, shit, i think i know how this happened! originally, when i was introduced to the game, my friend installed it and logged in as himself. later, i created my own account on the website and logged in—at which point it told me i could only play offline or try again. so i've been playing offline this whole time because he logged in first! i get it now!
#196 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Ah, that would do it
#197 [01:10] <overflow> xales: ran that about a week ago
#198 [01:10] <Checkzor> Look what I did there
#199 [01:10] <xales> overflow: sorry, I saw.
#200 [01:10] <xales> overflow: Try copying the server executable to a new folder maybe?
#201 [01:10] <thatnimrod> ok, so, one last question before i go buy the game
#202 [01:11] <Checkzor> anyone want to play with me on my new server ^^
#203 [01:11] <Checkzor> 205.185.125.67
#204 [01:11] <KillSpammer> thatnimrod, would you like to know how the beta licence?
#205 [01:11] <thatnimrod> can people connect to my server even if im not premium and not connected to it myself?
#206 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> thatnimrod - Yes
#207 [01:11] <KillSpammer> thatnimrod, yes they should be able to
#208 [01:11] <thatnimrod> cool
#209 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Running a server is free
#210 [01:11] <KillSpammer> !check 205.185.125.67
#211 [01:11] <thatnimrod> i'm gonna go buy this game now, thanks guys
#212 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Playing beta, either by yourself, or on server, costs money
#213 [01:11] <overflow> xales: already moved it to a brand new HD, one that doesn't get a lot of activity otherwise
#214 [01:11] <KillSpammer> Before i bother typing in my password :P
#215 [01:11] <Checkzor> ahaha
#216 [01:11] <Checkzor> btw 1gb line
#217 [01:12] <Checkzor> solid state drives
#218 [01:12] <Checkzor> 3gb of ram
#219 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> overflow - I mean, it could be anything from a corrupt player file, to a corrupt world, to too many things visible on a chunk...
#220 [01:12] <Checkzor> so you shouldn't lag :p
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#222 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Maybe your server can't handle the load, maybe a client can't handle the incoming stream of data
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#224 [01:13] <overflow> ok, any way to figure out what it might be?
#225 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> Maybe you have your antivirus running at the same time the players are experiencing lag.. I don't know
#226 [01:13] <overflow> the world has been moved a few times
#227 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> How old is this world?
#228 [01:14] <overflow> 4 days, but it has been moved 2 times off of other computers
#229 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> I'd try starting fresh, like xales suggested, and see if this happens again
#230 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Fresh server, fresh world, nothing migrated over
#231 [01:17] <overflow> would big holes in the world be a sign of corruption? they were there when the world was first generated and they disappear and move around?
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#233 [01:17] <xales> overflow: That is fairly normal..
#234 [01:17] <mib_a8r3n4> Hi, I am trying to place a sign and failing miserably .. can someone give me some help?
#235 [01:18] <xales> mib_a8r3n4: What part isn't working?
#236 [01:18] <mib_a8r3n4> Well i place the sign on a block .. and it sort of takes a shape of its on .. and than i break the sign .. and a lil mini sign is on the ground and i cant place an ytext
#237 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> When you place the sign, it should pop up the giant sign with a place to put in your text
#238 [01:19] <overflow> well thanks guys ill start it from scratch and see if that works
#239 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Wait
#240 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_a8r3n4 - Are you spawning signs with a /give or inventory editor?
#241 [01:19] <mib_a8r3n4> maybe -_- / give?
#242 [01:19] <mib_a8r3n4> why is that a problem doing it that way?
#243 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> /give if you're on SMP, or inventory editor on SP
#244 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> And yes, it does
#245 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> signs can't be "stacked" in inventory, so if you have more than one sign in a stack, the game treats it like a block
#246 [01:20] <mib_a8r3n4> ohhh ok
#247 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> and not an entity if you have just one sign in an inventory block
#248 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> So, give yourself the sign, that's fine, place it, destroy it, pick that sign back up
#249 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> then place it again
#250 [01:21] <overflow> GreyVulpine and xales thank you for your time
#251 [01:21] <overflow> and all your help
#252 [01:21] <Checkzor> anyone else want to mess around on my server
#253 [01:21] <Checkzor> you can do what ever you want
#254 [01:21] <Checkzor> I'll give you op
#255 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> overflow - Let us know if that starts doing that again
#256 [01:22] <Checkzor> will be making it public so till then it's do what ever you want
#257 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Checkzor - This isn't the channel to advertise for your server, try #smp
#258 [01:22] <mib_a8r3n4> That worked thanks alot Grey Vulpine you are awesome!
#259 [01:22] <Checkzor> ahh
#260 [01:22] <Checkzor> k
#261 [01:22] <Shadow386> GreyVulpine? awesome?
#262 [01:22] <Shadow386> you high?
#263 [01:22] <Shadow386> ;D
#264 [01:22] <overflow> GreyVulpine: will do
#265 [01:22] <Checkzor> was looking for people to more or less just stress test ect
#266 [01:22] <Shadow386> #smp
#267 [01:22] <Checkzor> not really making it all that public yet
#268 [01:23] <Shadow386> that reminds me, I wanna send xales over there since he likes to send people to my server
#269 [01:23] <Shadow386> :D
#270 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#271 [01:23] <xales> /whois xales
#272 [01:23] <xales> ._.
#273 [01:23] <Shadow386> idk some faggot
#274 [01:23] <xales> :(
#275 [01:23] <Shadow386> <3
#276 [01:23] <Shadow386> /give xales cake
#277 [01:24] <xales> Shadow go to #smp and advertise with no shame
#278 [01:24] <Shadow386> meh
#279 [01:24] <Shadow386> oh my
#280 [01:24] <Shadow386> xales ISNT op?
#281 [01:24] <Shadow386> :O
#282 [01:24] <xales> inorite
#283 [01:24] <Shadow386> that's like, improbable!
#284 [01:25] <xales> Ask Shirka
#285 [01:25] <xales> :>
#286 [01:25] <Shadow386> for?
#287 [01:25] <xales> Why
#288 [01:25] <xales> Shirka knows all
#289 [01:26] <Shadow386> you arent op?
#290 [01:26] <xales> or anything else
#291 [01:26] <xales> Shirka in omniscient
#292 [01:26] <xales> s/in/is/
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#295 [01:31] <Lucas> hello I am in urgent need of assisntance
#296 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> With
#297 [01:32] <Lucas> my minecraft has suddenly come up with java virtual machine launcher, could not create a java virtual machine
#298 [01:32] <Lucas> now I cannot use the .exe ,jar even a batch
#299 [01:33] <xales> What are the specs of your computer?
#300 [01:33] <Lucas> I have tried a new pc and reinstalling java but to no avail
#301 [01:33] <Lucas> both are windows 7 64bit
#302 [01:34] <Lucas> one intel core i& 4gb DDR3 RAM
#303 [01:34] <Lucas> i7*
#304 [01:34] <Lucas> Alienware
#305 [01:34] <xales> Any 'antivirus' or 'security' software?
#306 [01:34] <Lucas> yes bit defender
#307 [01:34] <Lucas> total security
#308 [01:34] <xales> Try completely disabling it and then running Minecraft again
#309 [01:34] <Lucas> okay will try
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#312 [01:36] <Lucas> didn't work :(
#313 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin the whole error that you get?
#314 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> including the command used to launch it?
#315 [01:37] <Lucas> its quite fustrating as i am a Java Developer and computer tech and I haven't been able to get a solution
#316 [01:38] <xales> What command are you using to launch it?
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#318 [01:40] <aetherian> heya
#319 [01:40] <xales> !seen Kealper
#320 [01:40] <crickets> I last saw Kealper (Kealper@190.120.238.65) 3hrs 39mins 48secs ago, talking in #MineCraftHelp. They were saying: i would not actually do that, i'm far too lazy to code that
#321 [01:40] <aetherian> waugh
#322 [01:42] <xales> hmm
#323 [01:42] <xales> he isn't away
#324 [01:42] <xales> so..screen is attached
#325 [01:42] <xales> =/
#326 [01:42] <aetherian> heh
#327 [01:42] <xales> O_o
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#329 [01:43] <aetherian> ?
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#331 [01:46] <Lucas> so if anyone could help I would greatly appreciate it :)
#332 [01:46] <xales> 01:38:04 <@xales> What command are you using to launch it?
#333 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> <@xales> What command are you using to launch it?
#334 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> dangit
#335 [01:47] <aetherian> fail
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#337 [01:49] <Checkzor> Gnight!
#338 [01:50] <Rait> Does anyone know what texture pack is being used in these photos? http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=159155
#339 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Looks like painterly
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#341 [01:51] <ferdinand> getting Java Virtual Machine error: Could not find the main class - Windows 7 64-bit, any suggestions?
#342 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> http://painterlypack.net/customizer.php
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#344 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - How, and where are you executing the command?
#345 [01:52] <ferdinand> just launching (doubleclicking) the minecraft.exe that i downloaded from the main site
#346 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> What's the full error?
#347 [01:52] <ferdinand> Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.MinecraftLauncher. Program will exit.
#348 [01:53] <xales> Try downloading the .exe again
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#350 [01:53] <Rait> Fix my error! D: "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to painterlypack.net"
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#352 [01:54] <ferdinand> There are two exe files to try, i tried both, and still no luck. I did this about a month ago also - same thing, i just gave up at that point.
#353 [01:55] <ferdinand> The only thing i could think to do is reinstall Java? Since its a Java Virtual Machine Launcher error.... but i really have no idea.
#354 [01:55] <xales> ferdinand: Do you have any antivirus or other 'security' type programs installed?
#355 [01:56] <ferdinand> avg & spybot s&d
#356 [01:56] <xales> which version of AVG? free?
#357 [01:56] <ferdinand> yes
#358 [01:56] <xales> what OS?
#359 [01:56] <ferdinand> win 7 64
#360 [01:57] <xales> hmm
#361 [01:57] <xales> can you put the full error on http://pastebin.com/
#362 [01:57] <ferdinand> sure
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#364 [01:59] <ferdinand> ty, im going to mess with uninstalling Java to see if that helps :)
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#367 [02:01] <xXR34C71V3Xx> hey guys its me again
#368 [02:02] <xXR34C71V3Xx> what do i type in the main lobby to register?
#369 [02:02] <xales> Did you look in the topic?
#370 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> /ns register password email
#371 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> or, if you already registered
#372 [02:02] <xales> but yes, what Grey says
#373 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> /ns identify password
#374 [02:02] <xXR34C71V3Xx> thanxs bunches
#375 [02:02] <KillSpammer> !seen GreyVulpine
#376 [02:02] <crickets> I last saw GreyVulpine (GV@c-68-43-58-28.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 34secs ago, talking in #MineCraftHelp. They were saying: /ns identify password
#377 [02:02] <KillSpammer> Lol
#378 [02:03] <Rait> Aye, Grey, is that painterly website usually really slow?
#379 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Um, usually not
#380 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> But, it is now.. hmm
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#382 [02:07] <SinZ> hey GreyVulpine, wassup
#383 [02:07] <SinZ> what smp server you play on?
#384 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> 127.0.0.1, the best one of them all
#385 [02:07] <SinZ> aye, not much people play on it tho
#386 [02:08] <feenyx> really?
#387 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> I don't know what you're talking about, tons of people are on it
#388 [02:08] <feenyx> Several people play on my 127.0.0.1
#389 [02:08] <SinZ> GreyVulpine, external ip plz
#390 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> 255.255.255.255
#391 [02:08] <SinZ> ...
#392 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Everybody plays on that
#393 [02:09] <SinZ> isn't the highest ip 255.255.255.254
#394 [02:09] <SinZ> !check 255.255.255.255
#395 [02:09] * GreyVulpine coughs
#395 [02:09] <SinZ> =(
#396 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> broadcast
#397 [02:09] <xales> !check 192.168.1.255
#398 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> lrn2TCPIP
#399 [02:09] <SinZ> yeh
#400 [02:09] <xales> !check ::1
#401 [02:10] <SinZ> 255.255.255.255 is an invalid ip =P
#402 [02:10] <xales> SinZ: No, ping it
#403 [02:10] <xales> lolol
#404 [02:10] <SinZ> do it in a browser
#405 [02:10] <SinZ> instant erro
#406 [02:10] <SinZ> error
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#408 [02:10] <SinZ> but 255.255.255.254 times out from no connection
#409 [02:10] <xales> TCCP = TCP
#410 [02:10] <xales> HTTP*
#411 [02:10] <xales> ping it
#412 [02:10] <xales> :>
#413 [02:11] <SinZ> syntax error
#414 [02:11] <SinZ> unexpected number
#415 [02:11] <SinZ> Javascript console ftl
#416 [02:12] * GreyVulpine sighs
#416 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_address
#417 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> "A special definition exists for the IP broadcast address 255.255.255.255. It is the broadcast address of the zero network (0.0.0.0/0), which in Internet Protocol standards stands for this network, i.e. the local network. Transmission to this address is limited by definition, in that it is never forwarded by the routers connecting the local network to the Internet."
#418 [02:13] <SinZ> GreyVulpine, do !check 127.0.0.1 for me
#419 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> !check 127.0.0.1
#420 [02:13] * GreyVulpine winks
#420 [02:13] <SinZ> do !check 192.168.1.255
#421 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> !check 192.168.1.255
#422 [02:14] <SinZ> wtf
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#424 [02:14] * GreyVulpine snickers
#424 [02:14] <SinZ> when xale did it, it said his external ip
#425 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> I'm special
#426 [02:14] <SinZ> !check 192.168.1.255
#427 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> !check 192.168.1.255
#428 [02:15] <SinZ> your a douch greyvulpine
#429 [02:15] <xales> !check localhost
#430 [02:15] * GreyVulpine winks
#430 [02:15] <xales> cheater
#431 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> !check localhost
#432 [02:15] <SinZ> GreyVulpine, don't mess with it
#433 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Totally not messing with it, you can clearly see what I'm giving AuBot
#434 [02:16] <SinZ> yet when we do it, it says external ip, for you however, it gives nothing
#435 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> AuBot loves me.
#436 [02:16] <SinZ> who would love you
#437 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> I just said... Aubot does.
#438 [02:17] <Rait> Muha, i'll sell Grey's Ip, atleast i believe i have it correct. >_>
#439 [02:17] <xales> 68-43-58-28
#440 [02:17] <xales> I win
#441 [02:17] <xales> also s/-/./g
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#443 [02:19] <SinZ> i swear javascript console hates me
#444 [02:19] <xales> lol javascript
#445 [02:19] <xales> and lol console
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#447 [02:25] <aetherian> is there a way to locally find ones external ip?
#448 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> whatismyip.com
#449 [02:27] <Rait> Oh, i noticed in a video you can change oneselfs crosshair in the game, and know me i fail at forum searchs and i've tried looking in the forums.
#450 [02:28] <SinZ> aetherian: !check localhost
#451 [02:28] <SinZ> !check localhost
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#453 [02:28] <SinZ> wait,
#454 [02:28] <SinZ> how did it get my external ip if I'm on a bouncer
#455 [02:28] <SinZ> owait, nvm
#456 [02:28] <SinZ> forgot it got dc'd
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#458 [02:30] <aetherian> no need to use !check 127.0.0.1 on IRC, I could just /whois aetherian
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#460 [02:34] <xales> !check rim.jobs
#461 [02:34] <SinZ> or visit whatismyip.org
#462 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> !check rim.jobs:80
#463 [02:36] <xales> !check about.museum:80
#464 [02:36] <xales> lol
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#466 [02:38] <Guest1390139302> wow
#467 [02:38] <Guest1390139302> -NickServ- Nickname SinZ isn't currently in use.
#468 [02:38] <Guest1390139302> * SinZ :Nickname is already in use.
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#477 [03:03] <Rait> Oh, Grey you here?
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#481 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#482 [03:12] <Rait> well 1, the painterly website is just fine, he/she must've been working on it
#483 [03:12] <Rait> 2. the whole cloud problem, could've been because of my texture pack i was using, cause now i have no clouds
#484 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Ah, neat
#485 [03:13] <Rait> also, do you know how to change the crosshair in game?
#486 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, aside from googling "Mod minecraft crosshair", I have no clue
#487 [03:14] <Rait> Alright
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#494 [03:23] <SinZ> I'm a noob at batch\
#495 [03:23] <aetherian> oh?
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#497 [03:23] <aetherian> my oh my
#498 [03:23] <aetherian> why would anyone want to leave such a happy channel as this
#499 [03:23] <aetherian> :o
#500 [03:24] * aetherian knows how to get the channel to be alive again, but would probably result in him being kicked and/or banned
#500 [03:24] <SinZ> ehh Crosshair, thats part of texturepack
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#502 [03:26] <aetherian> !ping
#503 [03:26] <crickets> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.651 Seconds.
#504 [03:26] <aetherian> ehh
#505 [03:26] <aetherian> not good enough
#506 [03:28] <aetherian> !ping
#507 [03:28] <crickets> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.631 Seconds.
#508 [03:28] <aetherian> better...
#509 [03:29] <aetherian> "Is someone straming something?" AEtherian asks incredulously.
#510 [03:29] <aetherian> *streaming
#511 [03:29] <aetherian> I blame the STUPID BOT
#512 [03:29] * crickets bonks aetherian, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#512 [03:29] <lemon-rev> why would you ask that cause its kinda silent here ?
#513 [03:30] <aetherian> what no
#514 [03:30] <lemon-rev> lol, at cricket which i was about to say crickets only come out when its quite lol
#515 [03:30] <aetherian> someone, such as my sister, amy be downloading or streaming something on their computer
#516 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> !grey off
#517 [03:30] <aetherian> heh
#518 [03:30] <aetherian> grey: I used the least harmful of commands (that I know of)
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#520 [03:31] <aetherian> and why is it called crickets?
#521 [03:31] <aetherian> hey ``
#522 [03:31] <aetherian> sup
#523 [03:32] <lemon-rev> i didnt called crickets, there little pests that normally are found in grass that rub there feet together and make a dammed racket the guy cricket said slap basicly and i just made a passing comment thats all :P
#524 [03:33] <aetherian> huh wha
#525 [03:33] <lemon-rev> hm what is it you dont know lol
#526 [03:33] <aetherian> English please.
#527 [03:33] <lemon-rev> whats did i use that wasnt lol
#528 [03:33] <aetherian> je ne pas parle engrish
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#530 [03:34] <aetherian> or french, much.
#531 [03:34] <aetherian> for that matter
#532 [03:35] <lemon-rev> i just think you cant read my words which is strange but anyways
#533 [03:35] <aetherian> ...something like that.
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#540 [03:47] <Szernex> Am I the only one having problems with my inventory being messed up after MC crashed?
#541 [03:47] <aetherian> yes.
#542 [03:47] <aetherian> no.
#543 [03:47] <aetherian> maybe.
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#549 [03:50] <Szernex> Great, all my pumpkins are gone too...
#550 [03:51] <aetherian> lolwin
#551 [03:56] * aetherian is away: ping if ya really need me... I'll be somewhere near.
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#552 [04:00] <SinZ> hmm
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#554 [04:00] <SinZ> howto do a proxy for minecraft to go around a ip block
#555 [04:02] <SinZ> who knows batch well?
#556 [04:06] <SinZ> i wanna do a legit login, but avoiding my school blocking minecraft.net
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#558 [04:16] <Rait> Would anyone know why when i transfer a SP world to a SMP world, everything that was built either way isn't there?
#559 [04:16] <SinZ> just copy paste
#560 [04:16] <SinZ> all paintings would die however
#561 [04:16] <aetherian> mm, pasta.'
#562 [04:16] <SinZ> pretty soon, single player would just be a local server
#563 [04:17] <SinZ> that noone can join
#564 [04:17] <Rait> I know that, and i have, but i've been on my SMP for awhile with a few friend, but my computer is chopy with both the client and sever running, so i wanted to go to SP. So i copy and pasted the world into my save, but all the work in it is gone.
#565 [04:19] <SinZ> I'm guessing when the new map format gets intruduced, that would make all the server software work for singleplayer =P
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#569 [04:28] <KillSpammer> Ahh hey SinZ
#570 [04:28] <SinZ> hey spam
#571 [04:28] <SinZ> listening to the minecraft music files
#572 [04:29] <SinZ> calm4 is wtf
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#575 [04:29] <Raitoningu> o-o wtf? Can anyone kick people from here?
#576 [04:30] <SinZ> why
#577 [04:30] <Raitoningu> Nevermind.
#578 [04:30] <SinZ> and fyi
#579 [04:30] <KillSpammer> * #MineCraftHelp :You're not channel operator
#580 [04:30] <SinZ> kicking from 1 channel is useless to get name back
#581 [04:30] <KillSpammer> I tried to kick you
#582 [04:30] <SinZ> you do /ns ghost Rait password
#583 [04:30] <SinZ> it kills that person, and you can use the nick again
#584 [04:32] <Szernex> Hm, anyone know how to get the MinecraftStructurePlanner to work when it says "Could not find the main class: minecraft.planner.gui.StructurePlanner. Program will exit" when I run the .jar file?
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#590 [04:54] <aetherian> night
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#594 [05:00] <Mikauk> a
#595 [05:00] <Mikau> b
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#598 [05:12] <KillSpammer> c
#599 [05:14] <SinZ> KillSpammer, any ideas to avoid the block
#600 [05:15] <KillSpammer> :O
#601 [05:15] <SinZ> i don't mind ssh tunneling, but to ssh tunnel, you need a good server with the software for the proxy tunneling
#602 [05:15] <KillSpammer> What
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#604 [05:15] <SinZ> so i can play minecraft.net at school
#605 [05:16] <KillSpammer> Online?
#606 [05:16] <KillSpammer> If your trying something like that try hamachi to make it tunnel through your computer from school
#607 [05:16] <KillSpammer> Idk
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#609 [05:18] <SinZ> ehh
#610 [05:18] <SinZ> i don't think theres a hamachi portable
#611 [05:18] <SinZ> wow, iv been wrong
#612 [05:18] <KillSpammer> Heh...
#613 [05:18] <KillSpammer> Why wouldn't there be one
#614 [05:19] <SinZ> iunno
#615 [05:19] <SinZ> i wouldn't think it would be possible to be portable
#616 [05:19] <SinZ> for the way it works
#617 [05:20] <KillSpammer> I found that installers work most of the time at schools
#618 [05:20] <SinZ> I'm not going to install hamachi on every computer i use...
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#620 [05:21] <SinZ> wait
#621 [05:21] <SinZ> isn't the auth server https now
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#626 [05:39] <SupernovaSteven> Hi
#627 [05:39] <SupernovaSteven> I need some help
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#629 [05:40] <SupernovaSteven> Anyone?
#630 [05:40] <PandaBear> What with?
#631 [05:40] <SinZ> Mental, or minecraft?
#632 [05:40] <SupernovaSteven> Minecraft'
#633 [05:40] <SupernovaSteven> i just bought it but i can't join my friends server
#634 [05:40] <SinZ> Good
#635 [05:41] <SinZ> any errors?
#636 [05:41] <SupernovaSteven> Connection keeps timing out
#637 [05:41] <SinZ> did he port forward
#638 [05:41] <SupernovaSteven> I allowed minecraft in my firewall
#639 [05:41] <SupernovaSteven> I think he has
#640 [05:41] <SinZ> think...
#641 [05:41] <SupernovaSteven> I tried to port forward but i don't think its working
#642 [05:41] <SinZ> its the host that needs to portforward
#643 [05:42] <SupernovaSteven> he needs to port forward 25565?
#644 [05:42] <SupernovaSteven> or my IP
#645 [05:42] <SupernovaSteven> :S
#646 [05:42] <SinZ> 25565...
#647 [05:42] <SupernovaSteven> k
#648 [05:42] <SinZ> you don't portforward ips
#649 [05:42] <SupernovaSteven> asking him
#650 [05:42] <SupernovaSteven> yes he has
#651 [05:42] <SinZ> whats the ip
#652 [05:43] <SupernovaSteven> his ip i think
#653 [05:43] <SupernovaSteven> he sent me the same one he uses
#654 [05:43] <SinZ> and that is...
#655 [05:43] <SupernovaSteven> not allowed to be told incase of risking griefing
#656 [05:43] <SinZ> ...
#657 [05:43] <SinZ> pm then
#658 [05:44] <SinZ> ./msg SinZ [msg]
#659 [05:44] <SupernovaSteven> he says don't tell anyone the ip
#660 [05:44] <SupernovaSteven> just tell me what i need to do to join
#661 [05:45] <SinZ> its kinda hard if i get no info at all to see what the error is
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#663 [05:45] <SinZ> ok, is the ip 127.0.0.1
#664 [05:45] <SupernovaSteven> no
#665 [05:45] <SinZ> localhost?
#666 [05:45] <SupernovaSteven> the connection keeps timing out
#667 [05:45] <SupernovaSteven> its a local host
#668 [05:46] <SinZ> are you in the same network
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#670 [05:46] <SupernovaSteven> ?
#671 [05:46] <SupernovaSteven> I'm using my network at my house
#672 [05:46] <SinZ> and he is using....
#673 [05:47] <SinZ> is he using his own internet
#674 [05:47] <SupernovaSteven> yes
#675 [05:47] <SupernovaSteven> and i'm using mine
#676 [05:47] <SinZ> then a local ip is useless
#677 [05:48] <SinZ> get him to visit http://whatismyip.org
#678 [05:48] <SinZ> and use that ip
#679 [05:48] <SupernovaSteven> it works for others
#680 [05:48] <SinZ> hmmm
#681 [05:48] <SinZ> GreyVulpine, xales, any ideas
#682 [05:50] <fogwraith_> SupernovaSteven: try connecting to crafted.se:8888
#683 [05:50] <fogwraith_> See if that works
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#685 [05:51] <SupernovaSteven> what is that?
#686 [05:51] <fogwraith_> Minecraft server
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#688 [05:51] <SinZ> hmm good test
#689 [05:51] * fogwraith_ has his eyes on the console
#689 [05:52] <SupernovaSteven> it worked
#690 [05:52] <fogWraith> Yeah
#691 [05:52] <fogWraith> I see that
#692 [05:52] <fogWraith> So, his server is at fault
#693 [05:53] <SinZ> or the ip he has is rubbish
#694 [05:53] <fogWraith> That or he has a rubbish NIC with the brand of Atheros
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#696 [05:55] <SupernovaSteven> ok\
#697 [05:55] <fogWraith> Whats the first two or three numbers in the IP your friend gave you
#698 [05:55] <SupernovaSteven> 192
#699 [05:56] <fogWraith> Thats a LAN IP
#700 [05:56] <fogWraith> Are you within the same building?
#701 [05:57] <SupernovaSteven> no
#702 [05:57] <fogWraith> Tell him to get you the proper IP from www.whatsmyip.org
#703 [05:57] <SupernovaSteven> okay
#704 [05:57] <fogWraith> Then it will work
#705 [05:58] <fogWraith> Since it does work for others, as said earlier
#706 [05:59] <SupernovaSteven> k
#707 [06:01] <SupernovaSteven> well thats unexpected
#708 [06:01] <SupernovaSteven> he went on the site and it said
#709 [06:01] <SupernovaSteven> he cant forward his port because the address is illegal?
#710 [06:01] <fogWraith> Then he's doing it wrong
#711 [06:02] <SupernovaSteven> but others can and have joined
#712 [06:02] <SupernovaSteven> so why won't it work for me?
#713 [06:02] <fogWraith> When he visits the site, it should present him with his external IP, nothing else
#714 [06:02] <SupernovaSteven> hmm
#715 [06:02] <fogWraith> This is the IP he should give to you... what are the two or three first numbers in that one?
#716 [06:02] <SupernovaSteven> i'm asking him for a screencap
#717 [06:04] <SinZ> eh, its going to be 4-12 numbers, don't need a screenshot
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#719 [06:08] <fogWraith> Problem solved /o/
#720 [06:09] <fogWraith> SinZ: you may now bow down to me and pay the package fee for the hardware that arrives today ;P
#721 [06:09] <SinZ> nao
#722 [06:09] <fogWraith> But I don't want to ;/
#723 [06:10] <SinZ> then you SUFFAR
#724 [06:10] <fogWraith> I know :/
#725 [06:10] <fogWraith> $420 >_<
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#727 [06:10] <SinZ> Trololololololololol
#728 [06:10] <SinZ> KillSpammer, get a bouncer or something
#729 [06:10] <SinZ> your hostname is a lie
#730 [06:10] <KillSpammer> Wut?
#731 [06:11] <SinZ> noone "woo"s bigpond
#732 [06:11] <KillSpammer> :)
#733 [06:11] <KillSpammer> Heh uhh..
#734 [06:11] <KillSpammer> Sad part is thats really what it is.
#735 [06:11] <SinZ> i know, sad
#736 [06:11] <KillSpammer> I tried to get TPG
#737 [06:11] <SinZ> ogod
#738 [06:11] <KillSpammer> Its not avaliable where i am
#739 [06:11] <SinZ> mines worse
#740 [06:11] <SinZ> mines win.bigpond
#741 [06:12] <KillSpammer> Lol
#742 [06:12] <KillSpammer> Aww...
#743 [06:12] <SinZ> something tells me there trolling us
#744 [06:12] <KillSpammer> Win and Woo:?
#745 [06:12] <KillSpammer> Whats next..
#746 [06:12] <KillSpammer> Woot
#747 [06:12] <SinZ> boo
#748 [06:12] <KillSpammer> Whats your plan?
#749 [06:12] <SinZ> your melbourne I'm guessing?
#750 [06:13] <KillSpammer> No.
#751 [06:13] <KillSpammer> TPG would be avaliable there...
#752 [06:13] <SinZ> well, we are on the same bigpond server
#753 [06:13] <KillSpammer> Lol...
#754 [06:13] <SinZ> lnse3
#755 [06:14] <KillSpammer> My internets broke
#756 [06:14] <KillSpammer> Restartin
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#769 [07:16] <KillSpammer> !check 192.168.1.100:50500
#770 [07:17] <Diablothein> That bot is too smart for his own good...
#771 [07:17] <Diablothein> mv AuBot /dev/null
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#776 [08:06] <Wilco> hey, whats the craftbukkit support channel?
#777 [08:08] <mbentley> #bukkit ?
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#780 [08:13] <Fransico|2nd> hi dudes, i bought a gift-code via paypal (few days ago) - but i dont get a code til now - whats wrong?
#781 [08:14] <mbentley> Fransico: have you checked online at minecraft.net?
#782 [08:15] <mbentley> it may be listed at http://www.minecraft.net/skin/
#783 [08:15] <Fransico> i cant login, because i forgot password - and the "forgot-password?"-functino doestn work :(
#784 [08:15] <mbentley> really?
#785 [08:15] <mbentley> i thought they fixed that...
#786 [08:15] <Fransico> "Couldn't find that user."
#787 [08:17] <mbentley> works fine for me.
#788 [08:17] <mbentley> tried your email?
#789 [08:17] <Fransico> i tested it with 2 accounts and 2 different email.. in both cases "Couldn't find that user." - so i think forgot-password-function is broken
#790 [08:17] <mbentley> sure your username is correct?
#791 [08:17] <mbentley> i just did it and it worked fine for me
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#793 [08:17] <Fransico> also with only your email-adress?
#794 [08:18] <mbentley> ah, yeah, my email didn't work
#795 [08:18] <mbentley> but username did
#796 [08:18] <Fransico> yeah.. and username i also forgot >.<
#797 [08:18] <mbentley> still have your email you received for your original account?
#798 [08:19] <Fransico> i never received any email from minecraft... only the mail from paypal
#799 [08:20] <mbentley> hmm, hard to say...
#800 [08:21] <Fransico> hm.. should be send from minecraft a mail after registration?
#801 [08:21] <Fransico> (sorry for my broken english :p)
#802 [08:22] <mbentley> yeah, you might want to try that
#803 [08:23] <elmo> mbentley: i raged out from Linux :(
#804 [08:23] * elmo formated into Win7
#804 [08:23] <mbentley> heh
#805 [08:23] <mbentley> seems like you tried about everthing you could
#806 [08:23] <elmo> Imma dual boot Mint
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#808 [08:24] <elmo> And pray to the Minecraft Gods that their'll be a solution in the near future
#809 [08:24] <elmo> also, shove a pole up ATIs behinds
#810 [08:24] <mbentley> :)
#811 [08:24] <mbentley> at least linux doesn't take much room to install
#812 [08:24] <elmo> mbentley: idd
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#814 [08:25] <elmo> Windows 7 takes like ~20GB D:
#815 [08:25] <elmo> Mint more like 2.6GB :3
#816 [08:25] <mbentley> yeah, the default windows install takes up quite a bit of room
#817 [08:26] <elmo> And i have no frikin' clue why my 1TB disk is down to 931GB :E
#818 [08:26] <Fransico> hmm.. i think i have to cancel my paypal-transaction :/
#819 [08:26] <elmo> i remeber as it was ~960GB
#820 [08:27] <mbentley> elmo: it is because hdd manufacturers list hard drives space differently
#821 [08:27] <mbentley> they use base of 1000 instead of the actual 1024
#822 [08:27] <mbentley> and space used by the filesystem
#823 [08:28] <elmo> oh, yeah
#824 [08:28] <elmo> but tho' thought it was more like 960GB
#825 [08:28] <elmo> well well
#826 [08:28] <elmo> 400GB left of 931GB :E
#827 [08:28] <elmo> need a new one
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#829 [08:29] <snowey111> Grey you got time to send the update?
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#833 [08:52] <SinZ> update for what
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#842 [09:28] <vaicine> Hi, could someone possible tell me what's wrong with my server? ip vaicine.com, port 25565. When someone logs in, it returns Kicking /ipaddress: You need to log in!
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#844 [09:28] <vaicine> No mods, completely standard
#845 [09:28] <Tripple_U> Hello
#846 [09:29] <mbentley> one second vaicine, i will try to login
#847 [09:29] <Tripple_U> Can someone help me with a small problem?
#848 [09:30] <mbentley> depends on what it is
#849 [09:31] <Tripple_U> I'm digging through a mountain at the moment and I want to know how I can get rid of all the Cobblestone.
#850 [09:31] <Tripple_U> Can I just drop it?
#851 [09:31] <Zemedelphos> Throw it on the ground with Q
#852 [09:31] <Tripple_U> OK. And when will it disapeare?
#853 [09:32] <Zemedelphos> About 5 minutes.
#854 [09:32] <Tripple_U> thx. That was all.
#855 [09:32] <mbentley> hmm, my client is jacked up
#856 [09:32] <mbentley> telling me i don't have an opengl accelerated mode or something... stupid laptop lol
#857 [09:33] <mbentley> probably time to reboot this thing
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#862 [09:49] <xolotl> Tripple_U: Just create some chests somewhere and tuck it away. Someday you'll want it. :)
#863 [09:49] <xolotl> Tripple_U: Alternatively, grab a bucket of lava and make yourself a lava dispenser; I can never bear just leaving stuff on the ground.
#864 [09:50] <Tripple_U> I just downloaded the game today. I have no idea what a lava dispenser is
#865 [09:55] <Apan-> Tripple_U:
#866 [09:55] <Apan-> Make sure you save it
#867 [09:55] <Apan-> I can almost promise you that U'll want to build something at some point
#868 [09:55] <Apan-> And it is a pain not to have enough cobble
#869 [09:56] <Tripple_U> If you say so. At the moment I can't imagene it.
#870 [09:57] <Tripple_U> Thx for the advice.
#871 [09:57] <Tripple_U> Gotta go
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#876 [10:08] <alfred1188> hello
#877 [10:09] <alfred1188> can some one help me
#878 [10:12] <Sqozza> Don't ask to ask.
#879 [10:12] <Sqozza> Just ask your question off the bat.
#880 [10:13] <alfred1188> what to do when u start ur minecraft if the window is just black
#881 [10:13] <Sqozza> Someone else will have to answer that..
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#890 [11:12] <vaicine> Was nobody able to tell me why my minecraft server didn't work?
#891 [11:13] <vaicine> Seems like 2 people are able to go on it
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#893 [11:21] <xolotl> vaicine: Your server definitely does seem to act a bit oddly
#894 [11:22] <xolotl> vaicine: Try setting it to offline mode temporarily, see if that fixes it. I wonder if it's something to do with user verification.
#895 [11:24] <vaicine> How do i set it to offline mode?
#896 [11:24] <xolotl> vaicine: in server.properties
#897 [11:24] <xolotl> (will require a restart of the process)
#898 [11:25] <vaicine> Is there a way to send a message to the users currently in game, like broadcast or something
#899 [11:25] <xolotl> Actually, just to be sure: we're talking about a Beta server, yeah?
#900 [11:25] <xolotl> vaicine: You're not logged in yourself?
#901 [11:25] <vaicine> I downloaded from http://minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip
#902 [11:25] <vaicine> Nope i'm at work xolotl
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#904 [11:25] <xolotl> Do you have access to the console that the server's running under?
#905 [11:26] <vaicine> yep
#906 [11:26] <xolotl> (inside a screen or whatever)
#907 [11:26] <xolotl> say <message>
#908 [11:26] <xolotl> should work, on that console
#909 [11:26] <xolotl> Type "help" (sans quotes) for other commands you can type there
#910 [11:26] <xolotl> They're the same commands you can use ingame (but with a slash in front) if you're a server op
#911 [11:26] <vaicine> sweet
#912 [11:27] <xolotl> Oh
#913 [11:27] <xolotl> Okay, that server is a Classic/Creative server
#914 [11:27] <xolotl> Not Beta
#915 [11:28] <vaicine> Oh... which one do most people use?
#916 [11:28] <SinZ> almost everyone that has the game plays beta
#917 [11:28] <xolotl> Well, some people still play classic/creative, though as SinZ said, most people are on Beta now (which is not free)
#918 [11:28] <vaicine> Ah i see okay cool
#919 [11:28] <SinZ> i play both
#920 [11:28] <statik> is it common for mplayer to have issues with lag even on a lan?
#921 [11:28] <xolotl> Classic/Creative servers might be sort of broken still at the moment, btw
#922 [11:29] <vaicine> Where can i download the linux beta server files?
#923 [11:29] <xolotl> It's possible that it just Won't Work for you right now; may have to wait until Notch is back to fix things, perhaps.
#924 [11:29] <xolotl> vaicine: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#925 [11:29] <xolotl> vaicine: Again, though, Beta isn't free.
#926 [11:29] <vaicine> I have a license
#927 [11:29] <xolotl> (though the server itself will run anywhere)
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#929 [11:34] <vaicine> xolotl getting some errors when trying to set up the beta now: Could not reserve enough space for object heap Could not create the Java virtual machine.
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#932 [11:38] <vaicine> Ah i see
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#934 [11:40] <vaicine> Okay i'm up, can someone check it works? ip vaicine.com port 25565
#935 [11:40] <vaicine> Also what's the minimum recommended ram for a minecraft server?
#936 [11:40] <SinZ> recommended
#937 [11:40] <SinZ> 1gb dedicated to server
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#939 [11:43] <Kealper> 1.5gb-2gb for the machine itself is recommended, depending on the os the machine is running
#940 [11:43] <vaicine> How much recommended for headless linux box?
#941 [11:44] <Kealper> 1.5gb would be fine, would let you dedicate 1gb to the minecraft server process, and give you ample room for the os without running in to swap
#942 [11:45] <vaicine> I have a 1gb headless server to use, it's running a few things that take up about 400mb ram (web server)
#943 [11:45] <vaicine> Would that not be sufficient? And how many users is your 1.5gb estimate for?
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#945 [11:45] <Kealper> this sucks....i have to move my server so i can put it on a ups i bought....and i have to do it before a blizzard hits my area at around 7pm....and i'm sick -.-
#946 [11:45] <Stinkosar> Guys
#947 [11:45] <Stinkosar> I have two problems
#948 [11:46] <Kealper> vaicine: how many users did you want on your server?
#949 [11:46] <Stinkosar> First is that even though I have the right dimensions and file type
#950 [11:46] <Stinkosar> I can't change my skin
#951 [11:46] <Stinkosar> And when I try to use the game
#952 [11:46] <vaicine> Kealper my friend has 5 people he wants to go on the server
#953 [11:46] <Kealper> Stinkosar: is it just not applying the changes?
#954 [11:47] <Stinkosar> yeag
#955 [11:47] <Stinkosar> *yeah
#956 [11:47] <Kealper> vaicine: so it's just a little one for some friends that will all be around the same area?
#957 [11:47] <Stinkosar> And sometimes it'll not say there was an error
#958 [11:47] <Kealper> 512mb dedicated to the minecraft server process would probably work
#959 [11:47] <vaicine> Kealper: exactly
#960 [11:47] <Stinkosar> and just not do anything
#961 [11:47] <vaicine> Okay cool, i'll give it a go. Thanks for your help
#962 [11:47] <Stinkosar> and when I try to play the game It spits out some words where the worlds should go.
#963 [11:47] <Kealper> Stinkosar: your image is a png image with the dimentions 32x64?
#964 [11:48] <Stinkosar> Yes.
#965 [11:48] <Kealper> well...64x32 if you went widthxhight
#966 [11:48] <Stinkosar> Either way,it is correct.
#967 [11:48] <Kealper> hmm....idk, lemme try and change mine...the site might just be screwy
#968 [11:49] <Stinkosar> but is like minecraft down or something? because I can't even access my worlds,where they go its just a long string of words
#969 [11:50] <Kealper> could you screenshot that long string of words and upload the image to http://imgur.com?
#970 [11:50] <Stinkosar> Is photobucket ok?
#971 [11:50] <Kealper> any image site would work
#972 [11:50] <Stinkosar> I could actually probably just tell you the jist of it.
#973 [11:51] <Stinkosar> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 2/1/11 11:51 AM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.2_02 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java:
#974 [11:51] <Stinkosar> Or copypast
#975 [11:51] <Kealper> Bad video card drivers!
#976 [11:51] <Kealper> did you restart your computer recently, and has it worked before?
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#978 [11:51] <Stinkosar> No
#979 [11:51] <Stinkosar> I haven't restarted my computer in a while
#980 [11:51] <Kealper> no you did not restart it or no it has never worked before?
#981 [11:52] <Stinkosar> the former
#982 [11:52] <Girl15> http://www.Palandokenrentacar.Com
#983 [11:52] <Girl15> http://www.Palandokenrentacar.Com
#984 [11:52] <Girl15> http://www.Palandokenrentacar.Com
#985 [11:52] <Girl15> http://www.Palandokenrentacar.Com
#986 [11:52] <Girl15> http://www.Palandokenrentacar.Com
#987 [11:52] <Girl15> http://www.Palandokenrentacar.Com
#988 [11:52] <Girl15> http://www.Palandokenrentacar.Com
#989 [11:52] * Kealper kicked Girl15 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Girl15)
#990 [11:52] <Kealper> can i just be sick in peace? sheesh
#991 [11:52] <Cial> no
#992 [11:53] <Stinkosar> So....
#993 [11:53] <Stinkosar> Its working for everyone else?
#994 [11:53] <Stinkosar> aww...
#995 [11:53] <Kealper> seems like it...try restarting your computer
#996 [11:53] <Stinkosar> Mmmkay.
#997 [11:55] <Kealper> actually i should probably leave that banned
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#999 [11:56] <xolotl> vaicine: My server runs fine on a box that turned out to have 1GB RAM, btw
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#1001 [11:58] <Stinkosar> FAILURE
#1002 [11:58] <Kealper> O.o
#1003 [11:58] <vaicine> Cool xolotl :)
#1004 [11:59] <vaicine> ty for testing the server also xolotl
#1005 [11:59] <Kealper> Stinkosar: still doesn't work after a restart?
#1006 [11:59] <Stinkosar> Nope
#1007 [11:59] <Kealper> well that's probably not good
#1008 [11:59] <Kealper> has anything on your computer changed since it was working fine?
#1009 [11:59] <Stinkosar> Well..It never has worked fine.
#1010 [11:59] <Stinkosar> This was my first time trying actually
#1011 [11:59] <Kealper> oh....well then
#1012 [12:00] <Kealper> how old is your computer? and have you updated it's graphics drivers?
#1013 [12:00] <Stinkosar> God I have no Idea how old my computer is
#1014 [12:00] <Stinkosar> and no.
#1015 [12:01] <Kealper> do you know the model number of it? you can usually find it on the case somewhere
#1016 [12:01] <Stinkosar> Wait...lemme look
#1017 [12:02] <Stinkosar> I found everything but
#1018 [12:02] <Stinkosar> It's serial,order,and a bunch of other crap is what I found
#1019 [12:02] <Stinkosar> but no Model
#1020 [12:02] <Kealper> who makes it?
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#1022 [12:03] <Stinkosar> My computer is dell
#1023 [12:03] <Stinkosar> my internet is supplied by verizon
#1024 [12:03] <statik> barnicals
#1025 [12:03] <Kealper> ok...is it a laptop or a normal big computer?
#1026 [12:03] <Stinkosar> PC
#1027 [12:04] <Kealper> is it white/silver or is it black/grey>
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#1029 [12:04] <Stinkosar> Its white-ish
#1030 [12:05] <Stinkosar> it has a small yellow tint
#1031 [12:06] <Kealper> hmm...this would probably be easier to just have you open dxdiag....what os is it running? xp, vista, or 7?
#1032 [12:06] <Stinkosar> Windows cp.
#1033 [12:06] <Stinkosar> *xp
#1034 [12:07] <Kealper> ok then, go to the start menu and click Run
#1035 [12:07] <Stinkosar> clicked.
#1036 [12:07] <Kealper> when that Run window is up, type dxdiag and then press enter
#1037 [12:07] <Kealper> it will ask if you want to get WHQL blah blah, just click ok
#1038 [12:08] <Stinkosar> AHH BIG WINDOW
#1039 [12:08] <Kealper> after it is done searching stuff, click the Save All Information... button
#1040 [12:09] <Stinkosar> ok
#1041 [12:09] <Kealper> then when that is saved, open it in to notepad, select all of it, and paste it on to http://pastebin.com and put the link to it in here
#1042 [12:09] <Kealper> it's going to be a ton of stuff
#1043 [12:09] <Szernex_> Probably a question asked and answered frequently but yeah... I'll ask anyway: anyone know a "good"/nice server with a nice community? :|
#1044 [12:10] <ReddeH> ffs its down yet again?
#1045 [12:10] <Stinkosar> http://pastebin.com/YhsxBfh3
#1046 [12:10] <Kealper> Szernex_: you could try http://mcserverlist.com to find servers, but i can't say if they are good or not, i just play on my own :/
#1047 [12:11] <Szernex_> okay, thanks
#1048 [12:11] <Kealper> oh dear me
#1049 [12:11] <Kealper> that is far too old to play Minecraft :/
#1050 [12:11] <dopeghoti> 486 with a Trident video car?
#1051 [12:11] <dopeghoti> card?
#1052 [12:11] <dopeghoti> (also, g'morning)
#1053 [12:11] <Kealper> CLOSE
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#1055 [12:11] <Kealper> ello
#1056 [12:11] <pbc243> ohai
#1057 [12:12] <pbc243> so yah
#1058 [12:12] <Kealper> 600mhz P3 with 256mb of ram and an ati rage pro
#1059 [12:12] <pbc243> my minecraft keeps turning black and crashing
#1060 [12:12] <pbc243> why
#1061 [12:12] <dopeghoti> Sorry, pbctwofourthree, I don't speak Jive^WLolcat.
#1062 [12:12] <pbc243> its pissin me off
#1063 [12:12] <dopeghoti> Are you feeding it properly?
#1064 [12:12] <Szernex_> Kealper where exactly is a serverlist on this site?
#1065 [12:12] <pbc243> wtf u mean ami feeding it
#1066 [12:13] <Kealper> Szernex_: uhh...there should be a list...lemme check
#1067 [12:13] * pbc243 np: White Girl-Young Jeezy Ft. USDA [03:34m/192kbps/44kHz]
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#1068 [12:13] <Kealper> WHOOPS
#1069 [12:13] <Szernex_> :D
#1070 [12:13] <Kealper> Szernex_: http://mcserverlist.net sorry lol
#1071 [12:13] <Szernex_> Thanks
#1072 [12:13] <pbc243> so yah why the hell is minecraft keep crshng
#1073 [12:14] <Kealper> pbc243: has it ever worked before?
#1074 [12:14] <pbc243> not really
#1075 [12:14] <pbc243> it crashes after like 10min
#1076 [12:14] <pbc243> sceen turns black
#1077 [12:14] <pbc243> then freezes up
#1078 [12:14] <pbc243> :|
#1079 [12:14] <dopeghoti> What OS? What version of Java? What video card? How much RAM?
#1080 [12:14] <Kealper> pbc243: how old is your computer?
#1081 [12:14] <pbc243> 1 year
#1082 [12:14] <pbc243> windows 7 ultimate
#1083 [12:14] <pbc243> 6gig ram
#1084 [12:14] <pbc243> core i7 920
#1085 [12:15] <pbc243> gtx 270
#1086 [12:15] <dopeghoti> (apparently answers don't come in the order questions are received)
#1087 [12:15] <pbc243> my computer can handle it
#1088 [12:15] <dopeghoti> What version of Java?
#1089 [12:15] <pbc243> idk
#1090 [12:15] <dopeghoti> ...find out?
#1091 [12:15] <pbc243> lolhow
#1092 [12:15] <dopeghoti> It's kind of pertinent
#1093 [12:15] <izzd> upgrade ur pc tbh
#1094 [12:15] <dopeghoti> control panel -> Java?
#1095 [12:15] <pbc243> u gimme money
#1096 [12:15] <izzd> joking :D
#1097 [12:16] <pbc243> java 6
#1098 [12:16] <pbc243> idk
#1099 [12:16] <pbc243> lol
#1100 [12:16] * pbc243 np: Gorilla Zoe - Juice Box (Feat. Yung Joc) [04:23m/192kbps/44kHz]
#1100 [12:16] <dopeghoti> six point what?
#1101 [12:16] <dopeghoti> And turn the music spammer off, please.
#1102 [12:16] <Kealper> pbc243: turn off the music script
#1103 [12:16] <pbc243> update 23
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#1105 [12:16] <pbc243> i dont know how
#1106 [12:16] <Kealper> use mibbit then
#1107 [12:16] <pbc243> no
#1108 [12:16] <pbc243> i like mirc
#1109 [12:16] <dopeghoti> you knew how to install it; uninstall it.
#1110 [12:17] <Kealper> if it spams again i'm kicking you from the channel
#1111 [12:17] <pbc243> it wont spam
#1112 [12:17] <aetherian> heh, mIRC.
#1113 [12:17] <aetherian> heh.
#1114 [12:17] <pbc243> just take a chill pill
#1115 [12:17] <dopeghoti> ANYhow, try reinstalling the binaries?
#1116 [12:17] <dopeghoti> !reinstall
#1117 [12:17] <lukegb> pbc243: what are you listening to?
#1118 [12:17] <dopeghoti> ^how-to here.
#1119 [12:17] <pbc243> yea i deletd my .minecraft
#1120 [12:17] <pbc243> still does it
#1121 [12:17] <dopeghoti> did you try the alternate launcher?
#1122 [12:17] <pbc243> wut?
#1123 [12:17] <pbc243> ;o
#1124 [12:18] <dopeghoti> Did. You. Try. The. Alternate. Launcher?
#1125 [12:18] <pbc243> where the hell is that
#1126 [12:18] <Kealper> and stop swearing so much, this is not a ship at sea, it's a help channel
#1127 [12:18] <pbc243> kealper go to a kids channel
#1128 [12:18] * Kealper kicked pbc243 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: why don't you?)
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#1130 [12:18] <aetherian> ono
#1131 [12:18] * xales kicked pbc243 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Let me show you the way)
#1132 [12:18] <dopeghoti> On on the downloads page, where it says "If that version doesn't work for some reason, try this:"
#1133 [12:18] <lukegb> Kealper: kick time? :P
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#1135 [12:18] <pbc243> hell isnt a cuss word
#1136 [12:18] <Kealper> oh is that so?
#1137 [12:18] <lukegb> LOL
#1138 [12:18] <pbc243> yes it is so
#1139 [12:19] * Kealper kicked pbc243 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: pbc243)
#1140 [12:19] <Kealper> yes, yes it is so
#1141 [12:19] <lukegb> :)
#1142 [12:19] <xales> wait
#1143 [12:19] <xales> i want more fun
#1144 [12:19] <Kealper> oh fine :/
#1145 [12:19] <lukegb> He'll probably try and take esper down now.
#1146 [12:19] <lukegb> Sheesh, thanks guys :P
#1147 [12:19] <Kealper> ohnoes
#1148 [12:19] <xales> /kickban pbc243 Rage in the kiddie pool, but not here.
#1149 [12:19] <dopeghoti> As of now, I require people who claim to speak English, to do so in order to get assistance from me.
#1150 [12:19] <xales> :)
#1151 [12:19] <lukegb> With hiz awsum netbot
#1152 [12:19] <Kealper> lol
#1153 [12:19] <lukegb> Wait, I mean botnet
#1154 [12:19] <dopeghoti> I suggest we all do the same.
#1155 [12:19] <lukegb> Onu
#1156 [12:19] <Kealper> netbot lol
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#1158 [12:20] <bootyreap> i need help
#1159 [12:20] <aetherian> dopeghoti: but i thot it wuz ossim 2 tok liek tis
#1160 [12:20] <Kealper> well atleast he is using mibbit this time
#1161 [12:20] <aetherian> yes, booty?
#1162 [12:20] <bootyreap> un ban me
#1163 [12:20] <Kealper> you are
#1164 [12:20] <aetherian> lol
#1165 [12:20] <dopeghoti> 243@dsl-216-227-66-111.pmtnet.net] has joined #MineCraftHelp
#1166 [12:20] <aetherian> 5 second ban
#1167 [12:20] <Kealper> but do NOT come back in with that mirc
#1168 [12:20] * ChanServ kicked bootyreap from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: AKICK by xales (Rage in the kiddie pool but not here))
#1169 [12:21] <Kealper> lul
#1170 [12:21] <xales> I win
#1171 [12:21] <aetherian> lul
#1172 [12:21] <lukegb> ...
#1173 [12:21] <aetherian> tell him to download a good client.
#1174 [12:21] <aetherian> ie not mIRC
#1175 [12:21] <xales> inb4 ban evade
#1176 [12:21] <lukegb> mIRC? What's that?
#1177 [12:21] <dopeghoti> aetherian: mIRC is arguably better than Mibbit.
#1178 [12:21] <Kealper> mirc is fine, scripted mirc is not
#1179 [12:21] <aetherian> but not better than like many others.
#1180 [12:21] <dopeghoti> it's no irssi though
#1181 [12:22] <Kealper> tru.dat
#1182 [12:22] <aetherian> ask him to use irssi if he's on windows, he'd be like "wut"
#1183 [12:22] <Kealper> lol
#1184 [12:22] <aetherian> irssi is my backup client when my main one crashes =\
#1185 [12:22] <xales> lolwut
#1186 [12:22] <Kealper> xhcat is my backup client for when my irssi crashes
#1187 [12:22] <Kealper> i.e: never
#1188 [12:22] <xales> I have two irssis open
#1189 [12:23] <xales> one just isn't connected
#1190 [12:23] <xales> :>
#1191 [12:23] <aetherian> irssi on cmd is ugly. darn windows.
#1192 [12:23] <Kealper> a backup irssi for when irssi goes down? lol
#1193 [12:23] <xales> yup
#1194 [12:23] <Kealper> i don't use irssi on windows
#1195 [12:23] <xales> I automatically /layout save and /save every 15 minutes
#1196 [12:23] <aetherian> me neither, but when I have to
#1197 [12:23] <izzd> my chat client is better than yours na na
#1198 [12:23] <xales> and the other one /rehashes every 15 minutes
#1199 [12:23] <aetherian> izzd: is it now?
#1200 [12:23] <Kealper> xales: lol
#1201 [12:23] <dopeghoti> When I'm in Windows, I have PuTTY open to my screen session in which I run.. irssi.
#1202 [12:23] <Kealper> dopeghoti: same
#1203 [12:23] <izzd> :D
#1204 [12:24] <aetherian> lolizzdmirc
#1205 [12:24] <lukegb> dopeghoti: run irssi inside an irssimulator!
#1206 [12:24] <dopeghoti> lukegb: Only after I finish compiling irssi on my 80386 that I built out of Redstone.
#1207 [12:24] <izzd> i been using mirs for yeeears
#1208 [12:24] <xales> lukegb: The IRS is here to increase your income tax because you used their simulator
#1209 [12:24] <aetherian> izzd, xchat is better than that.
#1210 [12:24] <lukegb> I should make a bot that autobans anyone using any IRC client that makes more than one version response, or doesn't make a version response.
#1211 [12:24] <xales> lol
#1212 [12:24] <lukegb> xales: si?
#1213 [12:24] <lukegb> ;P
#1214 [12:25] <aetherian> lukegb: then my backup backup client won't work :O
#1215 [12:25] <dopeghoti> lukegb: what if a vewer version comes out? :O
#1216 [12:25] <aetherian> haha
#1217 [12:25] <lukegb> dopeghoti: newer version of what?
#1218 [12:25] <izzd> mirc works for me and i like the colour option thing alot
#1219 [12:25] <dopeghoti> the client.. the CTCP VERSION reply would change, and your bot would ban it.
#1220 [12:25] <aetherian> izzd, xchat is better.
#1221 [12:25] <lukegb> You just need to make sure you only make one VERSION response.
#1222 [12:25] <izzd> ok
#1223 [12:25] <dopeghoti> er, do
#1224 [12:25] <lukegb> As in, you can make whatever response
#1225 [12:26] <lukegb> As long as you make exactly one
#1226 [12:26] <dopeghoti> .. izzd: irssi can do colour, just not here
#1227 [12:26] <xales> 4COLOR
#1228 [12:26] <aetherian> lol
#1229 [12:26] <aetherian> I dan't think that's what he meant
#1230 [12:26] <lukegb> xales: my client doesn't have proper colour support
#1231 [12:26] <lukegb> And colours leak onto the next line
#1232 [12:26] <izzd> no the custom colours for text background etc
#1233 [12:26] <Kealper> :/
#1234 [12:27] <xales> haha, phone IRC?
#1235 [12:27] <aetherian> haha
#1236 [12:27] <dopeghoti> "Wireless IRC"?
#1237 [12:27] <lukegb> Yeah
#1238 [12:27] <aetherian> lol
#1239 [12:27] <lukegb> :P
#1240 [12:27] <Kealper> xD
#1241 [12:27] <lukegb> Symbian ftl
#1242 [12:27] <aetherian> he got hit by lotsa pings lol
#1243 [12:27] <dopeghoti> I have irssi on my phone :p
#1244 [12:27] <aetherian> ctcpftw
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#1246 [12:27] <xales> also
#1247 [12:27] <lukegb> dopeghoti: I could, but it sux
#1248 [12:27] <lukegb> xales: also, was that an mIRC colour code?
#1249 [12:27] <xales> 1,4background
#1250 [12:27] <xales> err, I fucked taht up. whatever
#1251 [12:27] <lukegb> xales: if it was, die. Use Terminal ones :P
#1252 [12:27] <dopeghoti> Morning, gerzel! Can you help is bet back on topic?
#1253 [12:27] <dopeghoti> How can we help you?
#1254 [12:27] <lukegb> s/Terminal/whatever the hell it is... Ascii?/
#1255 [12:28] <xales> lukegb: ANSI codes dun work
#1256 [12:28] <lukegb> xales: :/
#1257 [12:28] <lukegb> Dun work on whut
#1258 [12:28] <dopeghoti> gerzel: (see what I mean?)
#1259 [12:28] <xales> anything but like, ircii probably
#1260 [12:28] <xales> if that
#1261 [12:28] <lukegb> Any client on which ansi colours don't work sux
#1262 [12:28] <lukegb> xales: they work on KVIrc! :P
#1263 [12:28] <dopeghoti> lukegb: if you need colour in IRC, you're _doing it wrong*.
#1264 [12:28] <dopeghoti> s/_/*/
#1265 [12:29] <xales> lukegb: the client interprets them, doesn't 'truly' support then
#1266 [12:29] <lukegb> Doing it wrong (TM)
#1267 [12:29] <lukegb> xales: which? KVIrc?
#1268 [12:29] <xales> the ones that support it now
#1269 [12:29] <lukegb> Heh. Wait, what do you mean by 'truly' support
#1270 [12:29] <xales> typo
#1271 [12:29] <xales> truely
#1272 [12:29] <xales> :P
#1273 [12:29] <dopeghoti> as opposed to falsy support?
#1274 [12:29] <xales> dopeghoti: of course
#1275 [12:30] <aetherian> I have to say, PChat is a good free windows client.
#1276 [12:30] <xales> I have to say, PChat is XChat
#1277 [12:30] <aetherian> why do you have to say that?
#1278 [12:30] <xales> There is a criminal with a gun to my head who told me to say that
#1279 [12:30] <aetherian> (and either way it looks and feels like xchat)
#1280 [12:31] <aetherian> then you did not have to say it
#1281 [12:31] <aetherian> you wanted to say it, because you did not want to die.
#1282 [12:31] <aetherian> :o
#1283 [12:31] <xales> I had to say it in the interest of preserving the universe
#1284 [12:32] <xales> you see, I am so important, that if I were to die, so would the whole universe
#1285 [12:32] <aetherian> then you did not have to say it
#1286 [12:32] <aetherian> you could have figured
#1287 [12:32] <aetherian> "screw everything"
#1288 [12:32] <xales> Forces beyond your control require me to say it
#1289 [12:32] <Kealper> wow...Tokyo, JP can cost up to $1100 per square foot of house.....
#1290 [12:32] <xales> control or understanding*
#1291 [12:33] <xales> Kealper: Why are you looking at housing prices in Tokyo?
#1292 [12:33] <xales> thinking of moving?
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#1294 [12:33] <aetherian> they were beyond your control too
#1295 [12:33] <aetherian> if they made you do something
#1296 [12:33] <Kealper> HGTV is on in the kitchen and i heard that on it lol
#1297 [12:33] <xales> aetherian: Naturally, but of course, I understand them
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#1299 [12:33] <xales> Kealper: oic
#1300 [12:33] <aetherian> understanding.
#1301 [12:33] <aetherian> lol.
#1302 [12:34] <Kealper> anyways...after looking and seeing that irssi literally uses just like 100 bytes/sec for bandwidth....i just leave it running all the time
#1303 [12:34] <aetherian> haha
#1304 [12:34] <aetherian> too much bandwidth...
#1305 [12:36] <xales> Kealper: http://xkcd.com/
#1306 [12:36] <Kealper> and by irssi i meant putty
#1307 [12:37] <Kealper> lol xales
#1308 [12:37] <aetherian> silly putty... now that was something I loved when I was very young.
#1309 [12:38] <Kealper> being sick sucks
#1310 [12:38] <xales> your sick?
#1311 [12:38] <xales> or just 'sick' because you can't be assed to shovel snow
#1312 [12:38] <xales> :)
#1313 [12:38] <Kealper> well, that is definately a plus to this lol
#1314 [12:38] <xales> lol
#1315 [12:38] <Kealper> but yeah, some shit that has my nose both stuffed and running like a garden hose
#1316 [12:39] <xales> that is a nice picture, thanks
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#1318 [12:39] <aetherian> eugh
#1319 [12:39] <Kealper> np
#1320 [12:39] <aetherian> go garden then, help everyone out.
#1321 [12:39] <aetherian> weeding+watering plants.
#1322 [12:40] <statik> 75.63.5.254:25565 anyone care to test?
#1323 [12:40] <Kealper> but then the plants would get sick :/
#1324 [12:40] <Kealper> !check 75.63.5.254
#1325 [12:40] <Kealper> aubot did
#1326 [12:40] <xales> !check rim.jobs
#1327 [12:40] <xales> :>
#1328 [12:41] <Kealper> lol
#1329 [12:41] <aetherian> for ,?
#1330 [12:41] <xales> Kealper's fail string concatenation
#1331 [12:42] <aetherian> heh
#1332 [12:42] <Kealper> didn't resolve to a real ip, so the function just returned null
#1333 [12:42] <Kealper> and there is no checking to see if any errors happened with resolving
#1334 [12:42] <xales> if(gethostaddr(whatever) == null)msg(#minecrafthelp, Couldnt resolve ip blah blah) && return;
#1335 [12:43] <xales> I did it for you!
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#1337 [12:43] <xales> aetherian: Your peer resetted you
#1338 [12:43] <xales> he is mean!
#1339 [12:43] <aetherian> I know really
#1340 [12:43] <aetherian> peer pressure
#1341 [12:43] <Kealper> If Not $tName Then $sResponse = "Could not resolve that hostname, are you sure you typed it right?"
#1342 [12:44] <xales> Does AutoIt use semicolons at the end of lines?
#1343 [12:44] <Kealper> no
#1344 [12:44] <xales> :0
#1345 [12:44] <Kealper> it uses a BASIC-esque syntax
#1346 [12:44] <xales> ._.
#1347 [12:44] <Kealper> which is not that bad if done correctly
#1348 [12:45] <xales> :` :o :O :0 :() :0 :O :o :.
#1349 [12:45] <Kealper> autoit is probably the only basic-like language that i can actually stand to use lol
#1350 [12:45] <aetherian> heh
#1351 [12:45] <aetherian> why not code it in some other language then
#1352 [12:45] <aetherian> is autoit easy?
#1353 [12:45] <Kealper> it's not too hard
#1354 [12:45] <aetherian> (relatively)
#1355 [12:46] <xales> Programming is logic
#1356 [12:46] <xales> logic is the same in any language
#1357 [12:46] <xales> :P
#1358 [12:46] <Kealper> but i like it because you can make stuff quite fast with it
#1359 [12:46] <aetherian> ...xales, program a program in assembly then.
#1360 [12:46] <xales> I could, but I'm not
#1361 [12:47] <xales> It really isn't as hard as you think
#1362 [12:47] <aetherian> fine then, machine language.
#1363 [12:47] <aetherian> :)
#1364 [12:47] <xales> it just takes fucking forever
#1365 [12:47] <xales> and no
#1366 [12:47] <xales> :>
#1367 [12:47] <aetherian> >:
#1368 [12:47] <Kealper> by default it hides all the evil, time-wasting, scary-to-beginners stuff so things can be made quickly, but it still provides access to those things if you so choose
#1369 [12:47] <Kealper> and lol @ asm
#1370 [12:47] <aetherian> asm?
#1371 [12:47] <xales> Kealper: What things does it hide?
#1372 [12:47] <xales> like COM and OLE?
#1373 [12:47] <aetherian> cha cha ole
#1374 [12:48] <Kealper> basically anything dealing with allocating memory, switching var types from say int to string, etc
#1375 [12:48] <xales> you can do that?
#1376 [12:48] <xales> O_o
#1377 [12:48] <xales> o_O
#1378 [12:48] <Kealper> autoit is REATARDED powerful if you know what you are doing
#1379 [12:48] <Kealper> and it can also be very easy, too
#1380 [12:49] <Kealper> and i can't spell
#1381 [12:49] <xales> well, at least it is better than C#
#1382 [12:49] <xales> hehe
#1383 [12:49] <xales> and it goes without saying that it is far superior to Visual Basic, because nothing isn't
#1384 [12:50] <Kealper> there is some example floating around that is an opengl starfield screensaver that actually uses autoit for the main stuff, c for the dirty stuff, and makes use of a bit of asm for the actual opengl rendering stuff
#1385 [12:51] <Kealper> quite impressive on just how low-level you can get with autoit
#1386 [12:52] * xales goes back to awayland now
#1386 [12:53] <dopeghoti> I want to make a new popular programming / scripting language, and call it D Flat, to compete with C Sharp.
#1387 [12:53] <Kealper> XD
#1388 [12:53] <Kealper> Db ftw lol
#1389 [12:53] <Kealper> wait, or is that D minor?
#1390 [12:53] <Kealper> meh
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#1393 [12:55] * Kealper goes and downloads putty on his ghetto media pc
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#1394 [12:56] <Kealper> which means.....detaching screen for a few so afk
#1395 [13:01] <Szernex_> Is it normal to see these grid-lines? http://yfrog.com/gy76280745p
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#1398 [13:04] <Kealper> Szernex_: no....but it might just be that texture pack
#1399 [13:04] <Szernex_> I got it everytime
#1400 [13:05] <Szernex_> Even with the standard textures
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#1402 [13:05] <Kealper> O.o
#1403 [13:05] <Kealper> without any mods or anything?
#1404 [13:05] <Szernex_> Yes
#1405 [13:05] <Kealper> might be ghetto video card drivers then :/
#1406 [13:05] <Szernex_> Latest drivers
#1407 [13:06] <Kealper> ghetto video card?
#1408 [13:06] <Szernex_> GeForce GTX 275
#1409 [13:06] <Kealper> hmm...
#1410 [13:06] <Kealper> idk then
#1411 [13:07] <Kealper> but what i do know....is i've got to get my server moved before this blizzard hits :/
#1412 [13:09] <aetherian> heh
#1413 [13:10] <aetherian> wonder if mc will hit 2m+ purchases
#1414 [13:10] <Kealper> maybe
#1415 [13:10] <aetherian> I could see that happening before it goes open source
#1416 [13:11] <Kealper> quite possibly
#1417 [13:11] <statik> anyone have a sec for a quick test connect on my server?
#1418 [13:11] <Kealper> aubot wants to
#1419 [13:11] <aetherian> I do have to wonder, what exactly will the post-release updates be...
#1420 [13:11] <Kealper> just type !check
#1421 [13:11] <statik> !check
#1422 [13:12] <statik> !check please
#1423 [13:12] <Kealper> having parameters on it will make it try to check the address that those params point to
#1424 [13:12] <aetherian> haha
#1425 [13:12] <aetherian> !check 127.0.0.1
#1426 [13:12] <aetherian> heh
#1427 [13:12] <aetherian> heh heh
#1428 [13:13] <statik> check .. really
#1429 [13:13] <Kealper> :P
#1430 [13:13] <aetherian> at least it has that :3
#1431 [13:13] <statik> says it looks ok from here
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#1433 [13:13] <Kealper> statik: if you look in your server's console, you should see that someone (aubot) connected and then disconnected really fast
#1434 [13:13] <aetherian> ping localhost -t -l 65000
#1435 [13:13] <aetherian> hmm
#1436 [13:14] <aetherian> fast pings
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#1438 [13:14] <statik> hah i thought you were jacking with me .. cool
#1439 [13:14] <Kealper> no, it actually does check lol
#1440 [13:15] <aetherian> it's not like one can say !check and it automatically says it's good... that'd be a stupid bot.
#1441 [13:15] <statik> thank you Kealper
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#1443 [13:15] <aetherian> aww, I was hoping to troll crickets >.>
#1444 [13:15] <Kealper> due to the way irc works, it can get your ip from the message when you said !check lol
#1445 [13:16] <aetherian> rawr
#1446 [13:16] <aetherian> my internets is failing...
#1447 [13:16] <Kealper> O.o
#1448 [13:17] <aetherian> either that or my technological c4 is failing
#1449 [13:17] * aetherian goes to chrome
#1449 [13:17] <statik> internets stuck in a snow storm?
#1450 [13:17] <aetherian> no...
#1451 [13:17] <aetherian> I think it was internet exploder
#1452 [13:18] <aetherian> I say as chrome does the same thing
#1453 [13:18] <Kealper> try the latest nightly of Firefox :/
#1454 [13:18] * aetherian goes to firefox
#1454 [13:18] <aetherian> waugh
#1455 [13:18] <aetherian> I thought I had DLed that
#1456 [13:18] <aetherian> ohh, it's not on my end
#1457 [13:19] <aetherian> !isdown minecraft.net
#1458 [13:19] <crickets> aetherian: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1459 [13:19] <aetherian> thought so
#1460 [13:19] <Kealper> psh
#1461 [13:19] <Kealper> !check minecraft.net:80
#1462 [13:19] <Kealper> hmm
#1463 [13:19] <Kealper> servers are working fine but the webserver is failing then :/
#1464 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Fail
#1465 [13:19] <aetherian> !check
#1466 [13:19] <Kealper> i wonder how downforeveryoneorjustme works then
#1467 [13:20] <aetherian> !check
#1468 [13:20] <Kealper> it might actually look for http response headers after making a connection
#1469 [13:20] <Kealper> wut
#1470 [13:20] <aetherian> what?
#1471 [13:20] <Kealper> stop confuesing my bot! lol
#1472 [13:20] <aetherian> !check
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#1474 [13:20] <aetherian> !check
#1475 [13:21] <lukegb> !check 127.0.0.2
#1476 [13:21] <aetherian> !check
#1477 [13:21] <aetherian> dernit
#1478 [13:21] <lukegb> Kealper: I broke it
#1479 [13:21] <aetherian> lol
#1480 [13:21] <lukegb> !check
#1481 [13:21] <statik> !chekers
#1482 [13:21] <lukegb> Kealper: makethebotipv6compatible
#1483 [13:21] <aetherian> no checkers, I don't think.
#1484 [13:21] <aetherian> !checkers
#1485 [13:21] <Kealper> hmm...i did just [CENSORED] that copy of windows....so lots of crap is not running right now
#1486 [13:22] <statik> !checkzor
#1487 [13:22] <lukegb> !checkmate
#1488 [13:22] <statik> hah
#1489 [13:22] <Kealper> lukegb: that's probably why....i'm not ipv6 enabled at my house
#1490 [13:22] <aetherian> lolwut
#1491 [13:22] <lukegb> Kealper: lawl
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#1494 [13:22] <lukegb> Kealper: get IPv6ernet!
#1495 [13:22] <aetherian> sixernet?
#1496 [13:22] <aetherian> :o
#1497 [13:22] <statik> !checkerdanetzor
#1498 [13:23] * aetherian resists the urge to exploit crickets
#1498 [13:23] <aetherian> oh my, crickets has so many spammy commands.
#1499 [13:24] <Kealper> my spambot sense is going crazy right now
#1500 [13:24] <aetherian> why, it would only take but 4 symbols.
#1501 [13:24] <aetherian> :3
#1502 [13:25] <aetherian> grey probably knows which command I speak of.
#1503 [13:25] <aetherian> why is my mclassicmp stuck on the connecting screen all da time >.>
#1504 [13:27] <Szernex_> Kealper http://yfrog.com/h43wyp this is what it looks like without any modifications
#1505 [13:28] <Kealper> Szernex_: are you on a mac, by any chance?
#1506 [13:28] <Szernex_> Nope
#1507 [13:28] <Szernex_> Win7
#1508 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> !part
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#1510 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1511 [13:28] <Kealper> that is very weird, indeed
#1512 [13:28] <statik> no trees?
#1513 [13:29] <aetherian> grey, took you a while
#1514 [13:29] <aetherian> I wasn't going to do it >.>
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#1516 [13:29] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: your bot is very abusable :/
#1517 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> You don't know the half of it
#1518 [13:29] <aetherian> that one?
#1519 [13:30] <Kealper> especially that wiki command.....
#1520 [13:30] <aetherian> kealper: that one is not exploitable
#1521 [13:30] <aetherian> much
#1522 [13:30] <statik> mooo
#1523 [13:30] <aetherian> mm, steak!
#1524 [13:30] <Kealper> i never said exploitable....but it can flood the channel with random useless crap
#1525 [13:30] <aetherian> heh
#1526 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> You're welcome to kick my bot if somebody does that
#1527 [13:31] * aetherian says !.wiki internet
#1527 [13:31] * GreyVulpine says set mode +b aetherian!*@*
#1527 [13:31] * aetherian says !un- I mean...
#1527 [13:32] <Kealper> i won't kick your bot, but i will kickban anyone who floods the channel with your bot without warning :/
#1528 [13:32] <aetherian> okay
#1529 [13:32] <aetherian> I'll remember to warn you first
#1530 [13:32] <aetherian> and then flood it
#1531 [13:32] <Kealper> omg lol
#1532 [13:32] <statik> ill get my wading boots on
#1533 [13:33] <aetherian> hehehe
#1534 [13:33] <aetherian> at least it doesn't have a script that when you say something like stupid bot it doesn't make a small puddle... oh wait...
#1535 [13:33] <Kealper> oh you mean like....
#1536 [13:33] <Kealper> stupid bot
#1537 [13:34] <Kealper> woot!
#1538 [13:34] <aetherian> kealper: it's not in the channel >.>
#1539 [13:34] <statik> !stupid bot
#1540 [13:34] <statik> :D
#1541 [13:34] <Kealper> yes it is
#1542 [13:34] <Kealper> he rejoined it
#1543 [13:34] <aetherian> it is?
#1544 [13:34] <aetherian> huh
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#1546 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#1547 [13:34] <crickets> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.41 Seconds.
#1548 [13:34] <statik> no +v
#1549 [13:34] <aetherian> !ping
#1550 [13:34] <crickets> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.341 Seconds.
#1551 [13:34] <aetherian> pwn
#1552 [13:34] <statik> !ping
#1553 [13:34] <crickets> statik Your Ping time was 0.371 Seconds.
#1554 [13:34] <aetherian> and so it begins
#1555 [13:35] <statik> eh eh eh
#1556 [13:35] <aetherian> see, it's like a DDoS attack, one doesn't do much, but when you get everyone to do it, it floods the system.
#1557 [13:35] <Kealper> lol
#1558 [13:35] <statik> !ping
#1559 [13:36] <crickets> statik Your Ping time was 0.37 Seconds.
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#1561 [13:36] <Lampshade> I need actual help mow guys.
#1562 [13:36] <Kealper> all your pings are weak....watch how blazingly fast mine is
#1563 [13:36] <Kealper> !ping
#1564 [13:36] <crickets> Kealper Your Ping time was 2.764 Seconds.
#1565 [13:36] <Kealper> O.o
#1566 [13:36] <statik> u owned us
#1567 [13:36] <Lampshade> !ping
#1568 [13:36] <crickets> Lampshade Your Ping time was 0.47 Seconds.
#1569 [13:36] <statik> man that is fast
#1570 [13:36] <Kealper> how dare you, irssi, you did not wait long enough!
#1571 [13:37] <aetherian> !ping
#1572 [13:37] <crickets> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.33 Seconds.
#1573 [13:37] <aetherian> pwn
#1574 [13:37] <Lampshade> Anyone use wom client?
#1575 [13:37] <Kealper> nope
#1576 [13:37] <Kealper> !ping
#1577 [13:37] <statik> !ping
#1578 [13:37] <crickets> statik Your Ping time was 0.37 Seconds.
#1579 [13:37] <crickets> Kealper Your Ping time was 3.144 Seconds.
#1580 [13:37] <mbentley> !pong
#1581 [13:37] <statik> :(
#1582 [13:37] <aetherian> !ping pong
#1583 [13:37] <aetherian> !chess
#1584 [13:37] <aetherian> !help
#1585 [13:37] <statik> !ding dong
#1586 [13:37] <Kealper> guess it's timestamp was retarded when it pinged under 3 sec
#1587 [13:38] <aetherian> what th-
#1588 [13:38] <aetherian> oh right
#1589 [13:38] <Kealper> anyways....irssi will wait like 3 sec or so before responding to stuff like ctcp pings or versions
#1590 [13:38] <Lampshade> Ping
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#1592 [13:38] <statik> ahh
#1593 [13:38] <Kealper> so technically, i won...as if my client did not wait, it would have been 0.14 sec lol
#1594 [13:39] <statik> im on xchat
#1595 [13:39] <Lampshade> Can anyone help me?
#1596 [13:39] <aetherian> no
#1597 [13:39] <statik> !ping
#1598 [13:39] <crickets> statik Your Ping time was 0.37 Seconds.
#1599 [13:39] <aetherian> what is
#1600 [13:39] <aetherian> !motd
#1601 [13:39] <aetherian> nothing...
#1602 [13:39] <lukegb> !ping
#1603 [13:39] <crickets> lukegb Your Ping time was 0.891 Seconds.
#1604 [13:39] <aetherian> !ping
#1605 [13:39] <crickets> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.331 Seconds.
#1606 [13:39] <aetherian> pwn
#1607 [13:39] <lukegb> Wow. My 3G connection's slow.
#1608 [13:39] <Kealper> Lampshade: WoM client is a heavily modded 3rd party client, therefore....we don't support it, and you should check out WoM for any issues with it
#1609 [13:39] <Kealper> dangit
#1610 [13:39] <lukegb> It's not HSDPA sooo :P
#1611 [13:40] <aetherian> come now, someone can beat my !ping
#1612 [13:40] <Kealper> lukegb: remember, that is not your actual ping...that's going through the irc network so it will be far slower
#1613 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#1614 [13:40] <statik> !ping
#1615 [13:40] <crickets> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.411 Seconds.
#1616 [13:40] <crickets> statik Your Ping time was 0.38 Seconds.
#1617 [13:40] <statik> heh
#1618 [13:40] <aetherian> heh
#1619 [13:40] <lukegb> Kealper: my actual ping is slower than that :P
#1620 [13:40] <Kealper> O.o
#1621 [13:40] <lukegb> Kealper: I blame my IPv6 tunnel :P
#1622 [13:40] <aetherian> O.O
#1623 [13:40] <statik> looks like .37/8 is it
#1624 [13:40] <aetherian> !pingpong
#1625 [13:41] <statik> where is crickets?
#1626 [13:41] <aetherian> !tictactoe
#1627 [13:41] <statik> uk?
#1628 [13:41] <Kealper> i wish i could disable that 3 second wait
#1629 [13:41] <aetherian> you can
#1630 [13:41] <Kealper> statik: eastern usa
#1631 [13:41] <lukegb> Esper <-tunnelbroker-> ZNC <-tunnelbroker again-> me
#1632 [13:41] <aetherian> get a different client :o
#1633 [13:41] <Kealper> aetherian: i can't use a different client unless i use my home internet for irc lol
#1634 [13:41] <statik> im in austin .3 isnt bad
#1635 [13:42] <Kealper> and that would just be cheating because i'd probably have like a 20ms ping to grey if i did lol
#1636 [13:42] <aetherian> kealper: code yer own client then
#1637 [13:42] <Kealper> i have....it sucked
#1638 [13:42] <aetherian> lolfail
#1639 [13:42] <statik> !ping
#1640 [13:42] <Kealper> the userlist stuff is rather annoying to get right
#1641 [13:42] <crickets> statik Your Ping time was 0.381 Seconds.
#1642 [13:42] <aetherian> !ping
#1643 [13:42] <crickets> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.341 Seconds.
#1644 [13:42] <aetherian> pwn
#1645 [13:43] <statik> yeah yeah
#1646 [13:43] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: you use dd-wrt on your router, don't you
#1647 [13:43] <aetherian> I'm better whilst wired in
#1648 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Bwah
#1649 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> ?
#1650 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Actually, no I don't
#1651 [13:44] <Kealper> is it a custom firmware at all?
#1652 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1653 [13:44] <Kealper> weird....because it blocks icmp pings
#1654 [13:44] <Kealper> and dd-wrt does that by default
#1655 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> linksys routers can do that
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#1657 [13:45] <Kealper> !ping AuBot
#1658 [13:45] <statik> lol
#1659 [13:45] <Kealper> wait...that wouldn't work
#1660 [13:45] <Kealper> i really hope crickets does not wait indefinately for a ping reponse
#1661 [13:45] <aetherian> !joke
#1662 [13:45] <crickets> What's the definition of mixed emotions? -When you see your mother-in-law backing off a cliff in your new car.
#1663 [13:45] <Kealper> XD
#1664 [13:46] <statik> !ping 192.168.0.1
#1665 [13:46] <Kealper> wrong kind of ping
#1666 [13:46] <aetherian> /ping 192.168.0.1
#1667 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Actually, it only accepts !ping, not !ping*
#1668 [13:46] <Kealper> aww
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#1670 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> I was smart.. back then
#1671 [13:46] <aetherian> /ban *!*@*
#1672 [13:47] <aetherian> :D
#1673 [13:47] <Kealper> lemme make the bot module response to ctcp pings then i'll see what my house ping to you is lol
#1674 [13:49] <aetherian> g2g
#1675 [13:49] <aetherian> !ping
#1676 [13:49] <statik> 64 bytes from 190.120.238.65: icmp_req=1 ttl=47 time=119 ms
#1677 [13:49] <crickets> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.34 Seconds.
#1678 [13:49] <Kealper> that is not my home
#1679 [13:50] <statik> proxy?
#1680 [13:50] <Kealper> although....that's a linux ping
#1681 [13:50] <Kealper> dedi in a datacenter that i run irssi on lol
#1682 [13:51] <statik> nice
#1683 [13:51] <Kealper> datacenter...in...Panama -.-
#1684 [13:51] <Kealper> the country not the city lol
#1685 [13:51] <statik> ohh thats a ways away
#1686 [13:51] <statik> enplanes the 119
#1687 [13:52] <statik> explained the 119 even
#1688 [13:52] <Kealper> yea lol
#1689 [13:52] <statik> i dont have access to a data center lol
#1690 [13:53] <Kealper> although if you wanted to actually ping my house, you could ping kealper.com
#1691 [13:53] <statik> only my nabors wifi ;)
#1692 [13:53] <dopeghoti> "nabors" /o\
#1693 [13:54] <statik> 64 bytes from c-67-177-131-104.hsd1.mi.comcast.net (67.177.131.104): icmp_req=7 ttl=48 time=76.0 ms
#1694 [13:54] <statik> yes
#1695 [13:54] <Kealper> meh... lol
#1696 [13:54] <statik> yes/o\
#1697 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9207242/Update_Intel_says_Sandy_Bridge_chipset_design_flawed
#1698 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Oh boy
#1699 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> "http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9207242/Update_Intel_says_Sandy_Bridge_chipset_design_flawed"
#1700 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> er
#1701 [13:55] <Kealper> yes! more reasons to be an amd fanboy!
#1702 [13:55] * Kealper reads
#1702 [13:55] <statik> yeah i had read about that
#1703 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Shipments of latest Core processors halted; Intel estimates move will cut first quarter revenue by $300M
#1704 [13:55] <statik> an sata flaw
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#1706 [13:55] <Kealper> wow
#1707 [13:55] <dopeghoti> Kealper: I like AMD's CPUs, but I won't approach FanBoydom until they get their Linux GPU driver act together.
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#1709 [13:56] <Kealper> dopeghoti: +1000000000000000000000000 on the driver thing for gpus
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#1711 [13:57] <Burnskagen> What is the best mod for server administration and where is their IRC chat?
#1712 [13:57] <statik> didnt they open source there gpu drivers?
#1713 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> #bukkit
#1714 [13:57] <dopeghoti> statik: "their". And no.
#1715 [13:57] <Kealper> do they themselves make fglrx? or is that a community thing?
#1716 [13:57] <dopeghoti> Nor has NVIDIA though
#1717 [13:57] <dopeghoti> But they have good releases.
#1718 [13:58] <statik> damn grammar nazi
#1719 [13:58] <Kealper> he happens
#1720 [13:58] <Burnskagen> What is the best mod for server administration and where is their IRC chat?
#1721 [13:58] <Kealper> #bukkit
#1722 [13:58] <lukegb> :D
#1723 [13:58] <Kealper> /join #bukkit
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#1725 [13:58] <Burnskagen> Bukkit is that a mod?
#1726 [13:58] <lukegb> No. CraftBukkit is.
#1727 [13:58] <dopeghoti> statik: 'Nazi' is a proper noun. Also, Gotwin.
#1728 [13:58] <dopeghoti> er, Godwin.
#1729 [13:58] <lukegb> But #bukkit is our channel.
#1730 [13:58] <lukegb> Join us! ;P
#1731 [13:59] <Kealper> i should probably idle in there
#1732 [13:59] <statik> what the hell is a Godwin?
#1733 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> !wiki godwin's law
#1734 [13:59] <crickets> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
#1735 [13:59] <crickets> Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies) is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1989 which has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." In other words, Godwin put forth the hyperbolic observation that, given enough
#1736 [13:59] <crickets> time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope— someone inevitably criticizes some point made in the discussion by comparing it to beliefs held by Hitler and the Nazis.
#1737 [13:59] <lukegb> For the record, Burnskagen, don't just part immediately.
#1738 [13:59] <Kealper> XD
#1739 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> And that's why I have !wiki on greybot
#1740 [14:00] <dopeghoti> Anyone that proves Godwin right automatically loses any argument.
#1741 [14:01] <statik> maybe because there is always a damn grammar nazi in the chat room?
#1742 [14:01] <dopeghoti> also, ['cooked fish']
#1743 [14:01] <dopeghoti> erm
#1744 [14:01] <lukegb> dopeghoti: you're such a Nazi!
#1745 [14:01] <dopeghoti> I mean http://xkcd.com/261/
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#1748 [14:02] <dopeghoti> statik: serioulsy, stop the ad hominem attacks.
#1749 [14:02] <dopeghoti> they serve no purpose.
#1750 [14:02] <Kealper> hominem? lol
#1751 [14:03] <statik> seriously, stop the trolling it severs no purpose
#1752 [14:03] <dopeghoti> statik: and anyone who thinks that 'nabors' is a word referring to the folks that live next door _needs_ to have their grammar looked into.
#1753 [14:03] <lukegb> Sever! :D
#1754 [14:03] <Kealper> ok children, settle down
#1755 [14:03] <statik> yawn .. yeah probably
#1756 [14:03] <dopeghoti> Kealper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
#1757 [14:03] <lukegb> .wiki Ad hominem
#1758 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> !wiki Ad_hominem
#1759 [14:04] <crickets> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
#1760 [14:04] <crickets> An ad hominem (Latin: "to the man"), also known as argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to link the validity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of the person advocating the premise. The ad hominem is a classic logical fallacy, but it is not always fallacious; in some instances, questions of personal conduct, character, motives, etc., are legitimate and relevant to the issue. See Ara Karamian
#1761 [14:04] <lukegb> I fail.
#1762 [14:04] <dopeghoti> *sigh* I was trying not go spam the channel, but okay.
#1763 [14:04] <Kealper> ahh...i see what you did there
#1764 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> No worries
#1765 [14:04] <Kealper> i was like lolwut? is that even spelled right?
#1766 [14:04] <lukegb> dopeghoti: it was all of two lines :P
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#1768 [14:05] <Kealper> two lines? are you using like a 4096x2048 screen or something? lol
#1769 [14:05] <dopeghoti> heh, no kidding.
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#1772 [14:07] <statik> wow, isn't this better?
#1773 [14:07] <Kealper> ?
#1774 [14:08] <ArmEagle> is there any place where all the numbers shown with F3 are explained (in detail)?
#1775 [14:08] <dopeghoti> Much.
#1776 [14:08] <dopeghoti> ArmEagle: I sometimes wonder the same thing; let me know if you find an answer (:
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#1778 [14:09] <statik> heh fps 0/1
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#1781 [14:11] * dopeghoti quietly watches random people play with the revolving door.
#1781 [14:11] <Kealper> lol
#1782 [14:13] <statik> take your super grammar skill and write a book about morons on irc that cant spell if your board
#1783 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> "bored".
#1784 [14:13] <statik> yeah that to
#1785 [14:13] <Kealper> lol
#1786 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> "you're".
#1787 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> "grammar".
#1788 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> "Mormons" oops, wait.
#1789 [14:14] <Kealper> lol
#1790 [14:14] <ArmEagle> DopeGhoti ah.. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Debug_Information
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#1792 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> ArmEagle: sweet, thanks!
#1793 [14:14] * statik wonders why the room is quiet
#1793 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> statik: because you're sucking all the smart out of it by osmosis?
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#1795 [14:15] <statik> because your an asshat troll jumping on every word anyone says?
#1796 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> No, on nonwords and misued homophones.
#1797 [14:16] <ArmEagle> shows that the game doesn't do any occlusion culling. Cause both numbers are 0
#1798 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> And I'm a human, not a troll; trolls are mythical creatures that do not actually exist.
#1799 [14:17] <statik> gj
#1800 [14:17] <ArmEagle> anyone else playing on a server hosted by multiplay?
#1801 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> I will also ask you a final time, statik, to keep things civil.
#1802 [14:17] <ArmEagle> shared boxes ftl it seems. But it's so much cheaper I guess :)
#1803 [14:17] * Shadow386 is on a dedicated server
#1803 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> ArmEagle: you get what you pay for :/
#1804 [14:18] <ArmEagle> yeah but then they shouldn't even sell a product that doesn't deliver. Even if you pay peanuts for it
#1805 [14:18] <ArmEagle> I'm not the one paying/adminning this box though. But man what a lag. Could of course still be our own gameserver/plugins
#1806 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> ArmEagle: Many less-than-ethical vendors oversell their virtualization hardware because they figure that not all clients will be using all of their allocation all of the time.
#1807 [14:19] <ArmEagle> but this is a game server hoster.. they cannot afford to deliver crap. it's not like it's running websites that can sometimes load slowly
#1808 [14:19] <Kealper> and that is reason #157 why i do not advise using a vps for hosting a minecraft server
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#1810 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> VPSs are great for email, SQL, and web servers, among other things, but for a game server, go dedicated all the way. It's worth the extra money.
#1811 [14:20] <ArmEagle> heh yeah..
#1812 [14:20] <ArmEagle> it's not like we're playing with dozens of people on it, like some servers.
#1813 [14:20] <ArmEagle> Usually there's only a few on. Sometimes around 10
#1814 [14:21] * Shadow386 cough cough
#1814 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> You know a VPS vendor isn't all it's cracked up to be when one of their "features" is "fast reinstalls". "Your service breaks so often we make a point of allowing you to revocer quickly rather than.. not breaking?"
#1815 [14:21] <ArmEagle> hehe
#1816 [14:21] <Kealper> lol
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#1819 [14:28] <statik> have fun
#1820 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Noooooo... we looove-d you aubot!
#1821 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> A UPS? AuBot will run on pure electricity now rather than AutoIt code?
#1822 [14:29] <Kealper> it'll be on for a sec....not quite done with my server just yet lol
#1823 [14:30] <Kealper> lol dope
#1824 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> oh, 'it' is the server, not the bot.
#1825 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> Lousy English, not differentiating accusative and dative forms of 'it'.
#1826 [14:32] <statik> What collage did you attend Dope?
#1827 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> collage = collection
#1828 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> college = higher education
#1829 [14:32] <xales> GreyVulpine: No wai!
#1830 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> The University of Annoy statik.
#1831 [14:33] * GreyVulpine pffts
#1831 [14:33] <statik> GJ FTW
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#1835 [15:16] <exp0> guess I get no mods
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#1837 [15:16] <marten01> hello
#1838 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1839 [15:17] <marten01> i need help
#1840 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Well, you've come to the right place
#1841 [15:17] <marten01> my minecraft is fucked up i kant log in it stays locked on done loading:(!!!
#1842 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#1843 [15:18] <marten01> windos xp
#1844 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, go to Run, type in: %appdata%
#1845 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Look for the .minecraft folder
#1846 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Delete everything since it except for the saves folder
#1847 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> er, delete everything inside it except...
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#1849 [15:20] <marten01> ok done what now??
#1850 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch minecraft
#1851 [15:23] <marten01> thx for the help
#1852 [15:23] <marten01> btw
#1853 [15:23] <marten01> is modding allowed??
#1854 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#1855 [15:23] <marten01> ok thx
#1856 [15:24] <marten01> i found a cool modd:P
#1857 [15:27] <marten01> wtf
#1858 [15:27] <marten01> how do i use mod??
#1859 [15:28] <marten01> GreyVulpine
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#1861 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> That depends on what mod it is
#1862 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> There's hundreds of them out there
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#1864 [15:29] <marten01> ok i kan give link
#1865 [15:29] <Shadow386> its a tarp
#1866 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> marten01: "can", not "kan".
#1867 [15:29] <marten01> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=92206#Download
#1868 [15:29] <marten01> here
#1869 [15:29] <marten01> is the link
#1870 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> The instructions are right there in the post
#1871 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> "Installation"
#1872 [15:32] <marten01> yea but i dont understand
#1873 [15:32] <marten01> i dont have minecraft.jar
#1874 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Sure you do
#1875 [15:32] <marten01> no where
#1876 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Remember when you went to %appdata% via your start menu?
#1877 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Go there again
#1878 [15:32] <marten01> ok
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#1880 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Look for the .minecraft folder, in there will be the /bin folder
#1881 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Inside the bin folder is minecraft.jar
#1882 [15:33] <marten01> no only minecraft
#1883 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Then you don't have extensions set to "show"
#1884 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Go up to tools, folder options.
#1885 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Under view, do you see the checkbox for "Show file extensions"?
#1886 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Or, hide extensions for known file types
#1887 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Uncheck that, go back to that folder
#1888 [15:35] <marten01> ok
#1889 [15:35] <marten01> i kant see it
#1890 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> can't or can?
#1891 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> marten01: is your 'c' key broken?
#1892 [15:35] <marten01> can't
#1893 [15:36] <marten01> it's bugged
#1894 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> You don't see "hide extensions for known file types"?
#1895 [15:36] <marten01> no i dont
#1896 [15:36] <marten01> is this twiter?
#1897 [15:36] <SkiingPenguins> you crazy person
#1898 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> No, this is IRC.
#1899 [15:36] <marten01> i wanna tell notch a thing
#1900 [15:37] <marten01> is notch on??
#1901 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> No
#1902 [15:37] <marten01> i wanna ask him a thing
#1903 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> He's not here
#1904 [15:37] <marten01> damn
#1905 [15:38] <marten01> well do you got him on twiter??
#1906 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> He's on twitter, @notch
#1907 [15:38] <marten01> i dont got twiter
#1908 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> It's free to sign up. twitter.com
#1909 [15:38] <marten01> ok
#1910 [15:39] <statik> And you thought i was bad :)
#1911 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> You still are
#1912 [15:39] <statik> korse i am :P
#1913 [15:40] <marten01> but kan you tell him marten01 says me like him:P
#1914 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I'll tell Notch that
#1915 [15:40] <marten01> ok
#1916 [15:41] <marten01> and i whant him to join a good server
#1917 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> He's busy right now, but I'll be sure to pass that along.
#1918 [15:41] <marten01> ok
#1919 [15:41] <marten01> whant ip
#1920 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Nah, that's alright.
#1921 [15:42] <marten01> ok
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#1923 [15:42] <marten01> IRC is so damn fun:P:P
#1924 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1925 [15:42] <marten01> i kant stop chatting:P:)
#1926 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> I can see that.
#1927 [15:43] <marten01> yea
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#1929 [15:43] <statik> eh eh eh
#1930 [15:43] <marten01> im so anoying:P
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#1932 [15:44] <marten01> im from sweden:P
#1933 [15:44] <marten01> brb im gonna log in:P
#1934 [15:45] <statik> Keep typing marten01 I find your conversation stimulating.
#1935 [15:45] <marten01> haha
#1936 [15:45] <marten01> what
#1937 [15:45] <marten01> ???
#1938 [15:46] <marten01> ok fun for you
#1939 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> If you require no further assistance, you can find general minecraft chatter at #minecraft
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#1941 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> /join #minecraft
#1942 [15:46] <marten01> ok
#1943 [15:46] <marten01> kant get in
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#1945 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Need to register before you can talk
#1946 [15:47] <Teth0ruX> Does someone know how much RAm a MC Server need?
#1947 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> /ns register password email
#1948 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Teth0ruX - Depends on your requirements
#1949 [15:47] <marten01> i got a acc
#1950 [15:47] <marten01> here
#1951 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> marten01 - No you don't
#1952 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> *NickServ* Nickname marten01 isn't registered.
#1953 [15:48] <marten01> Cannot send to channel: #minecraft
#1954 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> IRC and minecraft.net are unrelated
#1955 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> /ns register password email
#1956 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Need to register before you can talk
#1957 [15:48] <marten01> im loged in
#1958 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> You're not, not in IRC
#1959 [15:48] <marten01> yes i am
#1960 [15:48] <marten01> i just made a acc
#1961 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Then check your email for a confirmation code
#1962 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to type that code in here
#1963 [15:49] <Teth0ruX> GreyVulpine i have 2 GM Ram (max 4)
#1964 [15:49] <marten01> i got hmm
#1965 [15:49] <marten01> 99999999
#1966 [15:49] <marten01> no jk
#1967 [15:49] <marten01> 1/2
#1968 [15:50] <marten01> hmh
#1969 [15:50] <marten01> kant my mom is asleep
#1970 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Teth0ruX - The primary factors in determining a server's viability as a minecraft host are connection speed, RAM, HDD space/seek time, and whether or not other proceeses are running on it
#1971 [15:51] <marten01> i whant help:(
#1972 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> marten01 - You'll need to check your mail
#1973 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> email*
#1974 [15:51] <marten01> whit modding:P
#1975 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> The modding instructions are on that page you links
#1976 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> linked*
#1977 [15:51] <marten01> yea
#1978 [15:51] <marten01> i dont got minecraft.jar
#1979 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes you do
#1980 [15:52] <marten01> then tell me where
#1981 [15:52] <marten01> im on this instuction
#1982 [15:52] <marten01> Delete the META-INF folder in minecraft.jar (in %appdata%\.minecraft\bin)
#1983 [15:53] <marten01> wtf is META-INF???????
#1984 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> It's a folder in minecraft.jar
#1985 [15:53] <marten01> i dont got it!!!!!!!!!
#1986 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Okay, open up %appdata%/.minecraft
#1987 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Up at the top, do you see the view button?
#1988 [15:54] <marten01> yes i think
#1989 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Click on folder options
#1990 [15:54] <marten01> yes
#1991 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Do you then see a view tab at the top?
#1992 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> hello?
#1993 [15:55] <Roenie`> i could really use an explanation on what the possibilities are for controlling minecrat track directions with redstone
#1994 [15:55] <marten01> i kant get in minecraft.jar:(((((
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#1996 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> Roenie`: there are many possiblities. Did you have a specific question, or did you need the nickel tour?
#1997 [15:56] <marten01> i found it but no get in:(:(:(:(
#1998 [15:56] <Roenie`> is there a good youtube tutorial?
#1999 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> Roenie`: there are tons
#2000 [15:56] <Roenie`> " good"
#2001 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean, "no get in"?
#2002 [15:56] <marten01> yes
#2003 [15:56] <marten01> i kant get in it
#2004 [15:56] <mib_cei105> my minecraft graphics are messed up and i need to udate my frivers to play i have a radeon x300 series and radeon x300 series secondary
#2005 [15:57] <marten01> EROR
#2006 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Can you give me a screenshot of this
#2007 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> marten01?
#2008 [15:57] <marten01> what
#2009 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Can you give me a screenshot of what you see?
#2010 [15:58] <mib_cei105> me?
#2011 [15:58] <marten01> how to take
#2012 [15:58] * GreyVulpine sighs
#2012 [15:58] <Roenie`> DopeGhoti, got any youtube URLs to recommend?
#2013 [15:58] <Teth0ruX> GreyVulpine 2GB Ram (Max 4) 2,93 GHZ CPU, 100GB HDD, Other sercives: Webserver with a minecraft forum , mailserver
#2014 [15:59] <mib_cei105> anyone want to help me?
#2015 [15:59] <marten01> how to take sreenshot????
#2016 [15:59] <Teth0ruX> Press Druck
#2017 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> marten01 - the print screen button on your keyboard
#2018 [15:59] <Teth0ruX> or Print
#2019 [15:59] <marten01> druck??
#2020 [15:59] <Teth0ruX> druck was german sorry :D i mean print
#2021 [15:59] <Kealper> XD
#2022 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_cei105 - Did you go to ati.com and download drivers there?
#2023 [15:59] <marten01> print??
#2024 [16:00] <mib_cei105> i need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *******
#2025 [16:00] <mib_cei105> and i need a link
#2026 [16:00] <marten01> so do i!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*******
#2027 [16:00] <mib_cei105> everything i go to screws up somehow
#2028 [16:00] <mib_cei105> wanna help me please?
#2029 [16:00] <Kealper> back anyhow... looks like things got a bit hectic while i was on a different computer
#2030 [16:00] * GreyVulpine twitches
#2030 [16:01] <mib_cei105> ...
#2031 [16:01] * Diablothein whacks GreyVulpine with a large trout.
#2031 [16:01] <Kealper> alright so...
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#2033 [16:01] * LG_Legacy clears his throat
#2033 [16:01] <LG_Legacy> Problem?
#2034 [16:01] <LG_Legacy> Just remember to use more than one question mark/exclamation mark
#2035 [16:02] <Kealper> mib_cei105: you know the graphics card you have...go to google and throw in "download driver radeon x300"
#2036 [16:02] <mib_cei105> i need a link to a site to updat my radeon x300 series drivers
#2037 [16:02] <LG_Legacy> Ever consider typing "Radeon x300 Series Drivers" in google?
#2038 [16:02] <LG_Legacy> Usually it should link you to ati.com
#2039 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> or amd.com
#2040 [16:03] <mib_cei105> i tried but i cant find it! D:
#2041 [16:03] <mib_cei105> but ill try again brb
#2042 [16:03] <Kealper> marten01: what are you trying to do>
#2043 [16:03] <Kealper> ?*
#2044 [16:04] <marten01> how to send screenshoT???????
#2045 [16:04] <marten01> moding
#2046 [16:04] <marten01> modding
#2047 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> marten01: one '?' is enough, thanks.
#2048 [16:04] <marten01> ok
#2049 [16:04] <Kealper> we don't provide modding support in here
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#2051 [16:04] <marten01> yes we do
#2052 [16:05] <marten01> all questions
#2053 [16:05] <Kealper> no we don't, and if you want to say different you are free to leave
#2054 [16:05] <marten01> no thx
#2055 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> marten01: you're free to ask, but don't expect answers unless folks like GreyVulpine are feeling overly charitable (:
#2056 [16:06] <marten01> Greay
#2057 [16:06] <Kealper> well...have fun grey
#2058 [16:06] <marten01> may you anser my question
#2059 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> marten01: "answer".
#2060 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> I already told you, the "print screen" button takes screenshots
#2061 [16:06] <marten01> i kant talk englich
#2062 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> marten01: what is your native tongue?
#2063 [16:06] <marten01> how to send it??
#2064 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> marten01: better, but again, _one_ '?' is enough.
#2065 [16:07] <marten01> ok fine!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#2067 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> !kick marten01 I can be cheeky, too.
#2068 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> oh, wait, no AuBot.
#2069 [16:07] <Szernex> xD
#2070 [16:07] <marten01> no thx
#2071 [16:08] * DopeGhoti shakes a tiny fist in impotent fury.
#2071 [16:08] <Kealper> there is an aubot, it's just not oped
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#2073 [16:08] <marten01> no thx no need
#2074 [16:08] <Kealper> go through chanserv to kick
#2075 [16:08] <Kealper> VOPs can do that now
#2076 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> marten01 - Go into programs -> accessories -> open up paint
#2077 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Ctrl+V to paste the image in, save it
#2078 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Go to imgur.com to upload the picture, give us the URL
#2079 [16:09] <marten01> oh shit on you
#2080 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry?
#2081 [16:09] <marten01> Copy everything inside the minecraft folder (in the zip file) into minecraft.jar (in %appdata%\.minecraft\bin) here help me!!????
#2082 [16:10] <Kealper> wow...really...
#2083 [16:10] <marten01> yea
#2084 [16:10] <Kealper> i think it's time for marten01 to leave...he treats even those who try to help him like crap..
#2085 [16:10] <Teth0ruX2> GreyVulpine Any ideas?
#2086 [16:10] <marten01> im modding!!!!!!????????ok??
#2087 [16:11] * Kealper kicked marten01 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: no, that's not ok)
#2088 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Teth0ruX2 - I'm sorry, what?
#2089 [16:11] <Teth0ruX2> GreyVulpine A MC Server... I have 2GB Ram (Max 4) 2,93 GHZ CPU, 100GB HDD, Other sercives: Webserver with a minecraft forum , mailserver
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#2091 [16:11] <LG_Legacy> :l
#2092 [16:11] <marten01> haha
#2093 [16:11] * Kealper sighs
#2093 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> That, should be fine to host a server Teth0ruX2. How many people do you think you'll get?
#2094 [16:12] <marten01> im in
#2095 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Also, how much RAM can you reserve for the minecraft server itself?
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#2097 [16:12] <LG_Legacy> Please stop using so many question marks and exclamation marks. It's considered spam and highly unnecessary.
#2098 [16:12] <marten01> pwned
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#2100 [16:12] * Kealper kicked marten01 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: marten01)
#2101 [16:12] <that> the outdated drivers guy is back
#2102 [16:12] <Kealper> i'm not removing that
#2103 [16:12] <Teth0ruX2> GreyVulpine I dont know.. I started a MC Forum and now i want to start a mc server too, to get more member
#2104 [16:12] <that> ...
#2105 [16:12] <Kealper> that
#2106 [16:12] <Teth0ruX2> GreyVulpine what would be a good number of players?
#2107 [16:13] <Kealper> what a strange name
#2108 [16:13] <that> so...
#2109 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> If you can reserve 2 gigs for minecraft server itself, I see no reason why you can't get 10-15 players on it
#2110 [16:13] <that> anyone want to send me a link to a website where i can update these godforsaken drivers
#2111 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> that - For?
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#2113 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> video drivers?
#2114 [16:14] <Teth0ruX2> GreyVulpine okay that sounds good. I will try it :D Thank you yoo much
#2115 [16:14] <GuluGulu> alo
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#2117 [16:15] <that> i have 2 radeon x300 drivers
#2118 [16:15] <that> i need them updated to play minecraft
#2119 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#2120 [16:15] <General> Is this the right place for in game help?
#2121 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> General - Sure.
#2122 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> that - Is this a desktop or laptop?
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#2124 [16:16] <that> desktop
#2125 [16:16] <statik> Wow, was that guy for real?
#2126 [16:16] <General> laptop
#2127 [16:17] <General> I allrready run tiny on my look distance and it is still slow
#2128 [16:17] <that> i need a link to a website that will update my drivers
#2129 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> General - There's really nothing we can do about hardware that can't run minecraft well.
#2130 [16:19] <that> please help me
#2131 [16:19] <MineCraft> has anyone had experience with a blinking cursor box in game?
#2132 [16:19] <that> i have
#2133 [16:19] <that> update your drivers
#2134 [16:19] <GuluGulu> intresting livestream application crash my minecraft client !!!
#2135 [16:19] <that> unfortunately, no one here is competent enuff to help u sorry
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#2137 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> that - what OS are you on?
#2138 [16:19] <General> is it because i have a integrated video card? (w/o separate ram)
#2139 [16:20] <Tobleronee> Can some 1 help me
#2140 [16:20] <that> im on XP
#2141 [16:20] <MineCraft> just got an update from last month for geforce gts 250 and java 6 update 23
#2142 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> General - That can be a cause, yes.
#2143 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> that - http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#2144 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> get the "Full Software Suite
#2145 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> "
#2146 [16:21] <Tobleronee> i have a problem changing skins,, any pros out there??
#2147 [16:21] <General> i have a i5 processor so that can't be the problem
#2148 [16:21] <elmo> :E
#2149 [16:21] <that> thank god!
#2150 [16:21] <that> brb
#2151 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Tobleronee - With what?
#2152 [16:21] <elmo> God damn, now MC won't work on my Windows machine :@
#2153 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> What problem do you have with changing skins Tobleronee?
#2154 [16:21] <elmo> I can't get it connected with a friends server
#2155 [16:21] <Tobleronee> i get an error when i press, Yes, change skin,,,,
#2156 [16:21] <elmo> Just "Unknown host 'IP'"
#2157 [16:21] <General> thx 4 the help Grey
#2158 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Tobleronee - You're using minecraftskins.com to change it?
#2159 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> elmo: don't type 'IP', type the actual IP address.
#2160 [16:22] <Tobleronee> yes
#2161 [16:22] <Tobleronee> the massege goes like this "Failed to save skin: org.jets3t.service.S3ServiceException: Request Error. PUT '/MinecraftSkins/Tobleronee.png' on Host 's3.amazonaws.com' @ 'Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:15:14 GMT' -- ResponseCode: 400, ResponseStatus: Bad Request"
#2162 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Don't use it, download the skin directly and upload it at your profile page at minecraft.net
#2163 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> I know
#2164 [16:22] <elmo> DopeGhoti: ofcourse it's my friends public IP
#2165 [16:22] <elmo> but i don't want to spoil it here
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#2167 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> The person maintaining minecraftskins.com hasn't updated their server to work with minecraft's new servers
#2168 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> use the icon on the far right, with the arrow pointing down to download that skin
#2169 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Log into minecraft.net, go to your profile page, and use that to upload your skin there.
#2170 [16:23] <Tobleronee> not upload
#2171 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Not upload.
#2172 [16:23] <elmo> GreyVulpine: you know what problem it can be?
#2173 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> elmo - Can you connect to greyvulpine.dyndns.org ?
#2174 [16:24] <Coll> so 2 weeks of no updates
#2175 [16:24] <Coll> I sad face
#2176 [16:24] <Kealper> Coll: beta brings more time between updates, but more/better content with updates
#2177 [16:24] * checkzor [checkzor@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2178 [16:24] <Kealper> instead of just pushing small changes as they are added
#2179 [16:24] <checkzor> halp!
#2180 [16:24] <checkzor> lol
#2181 [16:24] <Coll> I dont think cake and dyes it better content
#2182 [16:24] <checkzor> how di extract a tar.gz on linux
#2183 [16:24] <Coll> XD
#2184 [16:24] <elmo> GreyVulpine: yes
#2185 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> elmo: if you're getting 'unknown host', you're not typing in a proper IP address.
#2186 [16:24] <checkzor> do I*
#2187 [16:25] <mbentley> tar zvxf <file>.tar.gz
#2188 [16:25] <elmo> DopeGhoti: it's the right IP :E
#2189 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> elmo: not if you're getting 'unknown host'.
#2190 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> It obviously isn't.
#2191 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> elmo: if you are getting that error, _you are not typing in a proper IP address_.
#2192 [16:25] <checkzor> thanks
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#2195 [16:26] <elmo> FML
#2196 [16:26] <elmo> T___T
#2197 [16:26] <elmo> it was 228. not 288
#2198 [16:26] <elmo> Q_____Q
#2199 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> elmo: see?
#2200 [16:27] <Tobleronee> it does not work to download skins:(
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#2202 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Tobleronee - Sure it does.
#2203 [16:27] <checkzor> bently
#2204 [16:27] <Tobleronee> nop
#2205 [16:27] <checkzor> that command is great
#2206 [16:27] <checkzor> except i have to hit Y then enter
#2207 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Tobleronee - Tell me exactly what you're doing
#2208 [16:27] <checkzor> like a trillion times
#2209 [16:27] <Tobleronee> ok
#2210 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Start from going to minecraftskins.com
#2211 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> checkzor: sounds like you're trying to clobber read-only files with the contents of the tarball.
#2212 [16:28] <checkzor> hmm
#2213 [16:28] <checkzor> still hitting y then enter
#2214 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> checkzor: What are you hitting 'y' in response to?
#2215 [16:28] <Tobleronee> i used http://www.minecraftskins.com/ from the start
#2216 [16:28] <checkzor> extract so and so
#2217 [16:29] <checkzor> then ?
#2218 [16:29] <checkzor> so i hit Y and the enter
#2219 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> Tobleronee: it was just explained to you that that site is not yet updated to work with the new infrastructure.
#2220 [16:29] <Tobleronee> ooo
#2221 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - It can work, if you download the skin directly
#2222 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> And not use minecraftskin's uploader there
#2223 [16:29] <Tobleronee> i tried that too
#2224 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Please continue Tobleronee
#2225 [16:30] <checkzor> wait a sec
#2226 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> From minecraftskins.com....
#2227 [16:30] <checkzor> i don't have to hit Y
#2228 [16:30] <checkzor> facepalm
#2229 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> checkzor: did you use w instead of v in the command?
#2230 [16:30] <checkzor> don't think so
#2231 [16:30] <Tobleronee> i downloaded one and tried to put it in to mt profile
#2232 [16:30] <Tobleronee> nothing happend
#2233 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Right, it doesn't show a confirmation page, but it worked
#2234 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Check in-game
#2235 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Press f5 to switch to third-person view
#2236 [16:30] <checkzor> alright
#2237 [16:30] <checkzor> how do i run a .sh script
#2238 [16:31] <checkzor> lol
#2239 [16:31] <Tobleronee> how do i know it working??
#2240 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Do what I just said.
#2241 [16:31] <Tobleronee> kk
#2242 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> checkzor: /path/to/the/script.sh
#2243 [16:31] <checkzor> i''ve cd'd the to folder that the sh script is in
#2244 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> checkzor: in that case, ./script.shj
#2245 [16:32] <Tobleronee> omg
#2246 [16:32] <checkzor> ahh
#2247 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> erm, ./script.sh
#2248 [16:32] <Tobleronee> it worked
#2249 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Indeed Tobleronee.
#2250 [16:32] <Tobleronee> Thx you alot!!:)
#2251 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> No problem.
#2252 [16:32] <checkzor> could not locate binary file
#2253 [16:32] <checkzor> :(
#2254 [16:32] <Tobleronee> byebye:)
#2255 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> checkzor: chmod u+x ./script.sh ; ./script.sh
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#2258 [16:33] <checkzor> chmod: cannot access `.ts3server_startscript.sh': No such file or directory Could not locate binary file, aborting [teamspeakserver@unassigned teamspeak3-server_linux-x86]$ chmod: cannot access `.ts3server_startscript.sh': No such file or directory
#2259 [16:34] <checkzor> ima pm you dope
#2260 [16:34] <Kealper> ts3 o.o
#2261 [16:34] * GreyVulpine stabs TS3 in the face.
#2261 [16:34] <Kealper> <3 vent
#2262 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> http://mcserverlist.net/
#2263 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> .bah, wrong channel
#2264 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> I"ve been hearing good things about "mumble"
#2265 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#2266 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> I've heard mixed reviews
#2267 [16:36] <checkzor> we use vent currently
#2268 [16:36] <checkzor> just ts3 is pretty good
#2269 [16:36] <Kealper> i tried it, server seems easy enough to run, but the client is meh
#2270 [16:36] <checkzor> WAY better than ts2
#2271 [16:36] <GuluGulu> has anyone tried broadcasting ?
#2272 [16:36] <checkzor> vent is better than ts2 no doubt
#2273 [16:36] <Kealper> GuluGulu: broadcasting what?
#2274 [16:36] <GuluGulu> minecraft
#2275 [16:37] <GuluGulu> via ustream on livestream
#2276 [16:37] <GuluGulu> or*
#2277 [16:37] <Kealper> people do that all the time
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#2279 [16:37] * DopeGhoti goes to the bank, and lunch
#2279 [16:37] <SimonJ> y0
#2280 [16:38] <Kealper> "hello" or "hi" would have been better, but hi, none-the-less
#2281 [16:38] <SimonJ> Is this the right place to ask about non0functioning servers and custom clients?
#2282 [16:38] <dopeghoti> servers yes, modded clients, no
#2283 [16:38] <Kealper> custom clients, no, broken servers, yes
#2284 [16:38] <Kealper> sigh
#2285 [16:38] <SimonJ> what about not-default server?
#2286 [16:38] <Kealper> then no
#2287 [16:39] <dopeghoti> modded servers, also no.
#2288 [16:39] <SimonJ> balls
#2289 [16:39] <SimonJ> better wait on an upgrade on the server software then?
#2290 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> SimonJ - For modded server talk, I can recommend #bukkit, or for modded clients, #risucraft.
#2291 [16:39] <dopeghoti> Or just not run illicit mods other than the excellent "Wait for the mod API" mod.
#2292 [16:39] <SimonJ> lol bukkit
#2293 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> We officially can provide support for neither here
#2294 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> I can't be arsed to install and update bukkit every day till its release.
#2295 [16:40] <Kealper> same :/
#2296 [16:40] <SimonJ> what is bukkit?
#2297 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> server mod.
#2298 [16:40] <SimonJ> ah
#2299 [16:40] <Kealper> an unofficial mod api of sorts
#2300 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2301 [16:41] <SimonJ> any danger of me even mentioning the mod I use?
#2302 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Nah
#2303 [16:41] <Kealper> no, modding is not forbidden, we just don't support them in here because it's too much of a hastle
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#2305 [16:41] <SimonJ> I use MCZall/MCLawl, just wondering if I could of gotten any asistance here
#2306 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, we can't provide support for that here.
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#2309 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Been a month or so since I've helped somebody with that custom server, and I can't remember anything about it past looking it up on a wiki again
#2310 [16:42] <SimonJ> since all the servers went down, I havn't had an url "thrown-back".
#2311 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> brb
#2312 [16:42] <Moyer> is there a reason why the minecraft_server.jar file hasnt been updated to the new version?
#2313 [16:43] <xales> Moyer: 1.2_01 is the latest server version
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#2315 [16:43] <Moyer> yeah i know that, but why is it not 1.2_02?
#2316 [16:43] <darkid> I can't run the mac OSX compiled version of the game, but I can run the linux .jar version. Anyone want to help?
#2317 [16:43] <xales> 1.2_02 didn't change anything on the server - it was just a client-side fix
#2318 [16:43] <xales> darkid: Define 'can't run'
#2319 [16:43] <darkid> insta-quit
#2320 [16:43] <Kealper> Moyer: the client update for 02 was just to fix something with the client for downloading skins
#2321 [16:44] <xales> darkid: Is the application in the 'Applications' folder?
#2322 [16:44] <SimonJ> is it me, or is the preview for skins now showing up anymore?
#2323 [16:44] <darkid> No.
#2324 [16:44] <darkid> Moving...
#2325 [16:44] <SimonJ> *not showing
#2326 [16:44] <Moyer> ok, well now i am having a problem with other people connecting to my server since the update, it doesnt allow them to connect it just times them out. I can connect but they cant is there a way to fix that?
#2327 [16:45] <xales> Moyer: Your IP probably changed
#2328 [16:45] <xales> re-do port forwarding
#2329 [16:45] <Moyer> ok thanks
#2330 [16:45] <SimonJ> once a port is forwarded, it's forwarded, right?
#2331 [16:45] <xales> SimonJ: Nope
#2332 [16:45] <xales> local IPs can change
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#2334 [16:45] <darkid> Same issue after move
#2335 [16:45] <SimonJ> using the router to give youself a static/reserved IP is also good
#2336 [16:45] <xales> darkid: Open Terminal and run the command
#2337 [16:46] <xales> open /Applications/Minecraft.app
#2338 [16:46] <darkid> that does the same thing. Really. Exit code 1 was what I got last time
#2339 [16:46] <darkid> oh sorry erro −10810
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#2341 [16:46] <SimonJ> any news on the skin preview?
#2342 [16:46] <xales> Is that all it says in the console?
#2343 [16:46] <xales> SimonJ: It isn't working, probably won't be for a while, sorry
#2344 [16:46] <darkid> LSOpenURLsWithRole() failed with error -10810 for the file /Applications/Minecraft/Minecraft.app
#2345 [16:47] * Kealper smells permission issues
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#2346 [16:47] <xales> Yeah..try running
#2347 [16:47] <darkid> What, should I run it from an admin acct?
#2348 [16:47] <aetherian> heya
#2349 [16:47] <xales> sudo chmod -R 777 /Applications/Minecraft/Minecraft.app
#2350 [16:47] <darkid> no need for sudo there
#2351 [16:47] <darkid> but ok
#2352 [16:48] <Moyer> thanks the ip had changed and it is running now
#2353 [16:48] <SimonJ> nice
#2354 [16:48] <darkid> same issue
#2355 [16:48] <xales> darkid: ok, try running
#2356 [16:49] <SimonJ> too bad moyer left, I was going to ask if they reserved an IP.
#2357 [16:49] <xales> /Applications/Minecraft/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2358 [16:49] <darkid> Changed that to 777
#2359 [16:49] <darkid> already
#2360 [16:49] <darkid> from the console error
#2361 [16:49] <xales> no, just run it
#2362 [16:49] <darkid> oh
#2363 [16:50] <darkid> worked
#2364 [16:51] <darkid> main application works. Thank you for your help
#2365 [16:51] <Roenie`> anyone use CodeRedEconomy?
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#2367 [16:51] <SimonJ> no?
#2368 [16:51] <SimonJ> whats it do?
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#2370 [16:51] <Roenie`> oh wrong chan, #bukkit
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#2372 [16:53] <checkzor> how do you forward ports in centos
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#2374 [16:53] <xales> checkzor: Using CentOS as a router?
#2375 [16:53] <xales> or forward ports to a CentOS server
#2376 [16:54] <checkzor> na my vps runs centos
#2377 [16:54] <checkzor> I need for forward port 2008 for my ts3 server
#2378 [16:54] <xales> if it is a VPS, you don't need to port forward
#2379 [16:54] <checkzor> then what the hell
#2380 [16:55] <checkzor> the error I'm getting, I googled it and it said I didn't have port 2008 forwarded
#2381 [16:55] <checkzor> blah
#2382 [16:55] <xales> you may have to disable it in a firewall or something
#2383 [16:55] <checkzor> how?
#2384 [16:55] <checkzor> :P
#2385 [16:55] <Kealper> is there a firewall running on your server? you might not have port 2008 open
#2386 [16:55] <xales> and those 'port checker' tools don't necessarily tell you the truth
#2387 [16:55] <Kealper> ugh
#2388 [16:55] <checkzor> didn't use a port checker tool
#2389 [16:55] <checkzor> just says thats the reason for my error :/
#2390 [16:55] <xales> ah
#2391 [16:56] <xales> well, your VPS provider may have a firewall control panel or something
#2392 [16:56] <aetherian> that's why you need to upgrade your port to 2011
#2393 [16:56] * Kealper facedesks
#2393 [16:57] * checkzor facetouchpads
#2393 [16:57] * SkiingPenguins facewirelessmouses
#2393 [16:57] <checkzor> anyway
#2394 [16:57] <aetherian> whoo
#2395 [16:57] <checkzor> alright
#2396 [16:57] <checkzor> xales my linux savy buddy
#2397 [16:57] <checkzor> how do I check if port 2008 is open
#2398 [16:58] <Kealper> with AuBot
#2399 [16:58] <checkzor> ok XALES
#2400 [16:58] <checkzor> :p
#2401 [16:58] <checkzor> kidding
#2402 [16:58] <checkzor> whats aubot?
#2403 [16:58] <Kealper> a bot that is in here
#2404 [16:58] <Kealper> what's your server's ip?
#2405 [16:58] <checkzor> command?
#2406 [16:58] <elmo> !check 2012
#2407 [16:58] <checkzor> 205.185.125.67
#2408 [16:59] <Kealper> !check 205.185.125.67:2008
#2409 [16:59] <elmo> !check hakkerman.nu:1337
#2410 [16:59] <Kealper> not open :/
#2411 [16:59] <checkzor> WTF
#2412 [17:00] <Kealper> as xales said, your VPS provider probably has a page that lets you open/close ports on your server's firewall
#2413 [17:01] <xolotl> checkzor: CentOS has a firewall by default which usually blocks unknown incoming traffic (by default, anyway)
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#2415 [17:01] <xolotl> checkzor: use a pastebin to show the output of "iptables -L -v -n"
#2416 [17:01] <mib_wxobc7> so close!
#2417 [17:01] <xales> ?
#2418 [17:01] <mib_wxobc7> i updated my drivers
#2419 [17:01] <mib_wxobc7> and the game's graphics are still giving me problems
#2420 [17:02] <xales> 'problems'?
#2421 [17:02] <mib_wxobc7> yeah
#2422 [17:02] <mib_wxobc7> i would show you a screenshot but i dont know how :(
#2423 [17:02] <xales> can you describe the issue?
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#2425 [17:03] <mib_wxobc7> when i start the game up,some of the textures appear as smudges across the geometry
#2426 [17:03] <mib_wxobc7> and there are many lines in the blocks
#2427 [17:03] <mib_wxobc7> the colours are a ll green and blue
#2428 [17:03] <SimonJ> mib_wxobc7: Press F2
#2429 [17:03] <mib_wxobc7> but the blox in the players hand is fine :(
#2430 [17:03] <SkiingPenguins> SimonJ you beat me to it
#2431 [17:04] <xolotl> checkzor: Okay, so a firewall on the box itself isn't the issue. run a "netstat -tln" and pastebin that
#2432 [17:04] <mib_wxobc7> kk ill take a screen
#2433 [17:04] <checkzor> http://pastebin.com/rYmdTi1r
#2434 [17:04] <smurfman> So I was playing on a MP server last night when the power went out. I stopped playing for the night and when I come back to it this morning the server won't load, says that it had a severe exception....
#2435 [17:05] <xolotl> checkzor: Okay, so port 2008 is actually not open at all on that box
#2436 [17:05] <SimonJ> I was about to say "I wish screenshots where like those in WoM" but then I rememebered holding F1
#2437 [17:05] <xolotl> checkzor: (you'd see a line like ":::2008" in there)
#2438 [17:05] <Kealper> smurfman: the map is probably corrupt then :/
#2439 [17:05] <smurfman> is there no way to save it?
#2440 [17:05] <smurfman> i was working on a project with some friends and i don't want to have to redo all that I have already done
#2441 [17:05] <checkzor> hmmm
#2442 [17:05] <checkzor> ok
#2443 [17:05] <checkzor> so now I bitch at vps provider to fix :)
#2444 [17:05] <SimonJ> What is that graph in the debug UI?
#2445 [17:06] <Kealper> smurfman: there is one way that might help....
#2446 [17:06] <mib_wxobc7> nope no screenshot thingy came up...
#2447 [17:06] <xolotl> checkzor: At least, if it's something TCP. If it's UDP then it might not show up in there
#2448 [17:06] <Kealper> smurfman:
#2449 [17:06] <mib_wxobc7> can anyone tell me how to take a screenshot
#2450 [17:06] <xolotl> checkzor: Well, the issue is more likely that the process that's supposed to be listening on the port isn't actually running
#2451 [17:06] <Kealper> go in to your server's world folder
#2452 [17:06] <SimonJ> mib_wxobc7: press F2 or press PRNT SCRN
#2453 [17:06] <smurfman> check
#2454 [17:06] <mib_wxobc7> ok
#2455 [17:06] <statik> !check
#2456 [17:06] <mib_wxobc7> ill do that
#2457 [17:06] <Kealper> smurfman: do you see a file called level.dat.old?
#2458 [17:06] <SimonJ> mib_wxobc7: Use search for the name of the screenshot
#2459 [17:06] <smurfman> yes
#2460 [17:07] <Kealper> ok, are the filesizes of that and level.dat different?
#2461 [17:07] <mib_wxobc7> what would it be called?
#2462 [17:07] <SimonJ> when you press F2, it'll give you a message
#2463 [17:07] <smurfman> sec....
#2464 [17:07] <xales> mib_wxobc7: did you use printscreen or f2?
#2465 [17:07] <smurfman> yes by 1 KB
#2466 [17:08] <Kealper> smurfman: rename level.dat to something random and then rename level.dat.old to level.dat
#2467 [17:08] <Kealper> try starting the server again
#2468 [17:08] <mib_wxobc7> yeah i did nothing happened
#2469 [17:09] <smurfman> didn't work
#2470 [17:09] <SkiingPenguins> mib_wxobc7 do you know how to take a screenshot of your screen?
#2471 [17:09] <mib_wxobc7> nope :/
#2472 [17:09] <xales> mib_wxobc7: did you press printscreen?
#2473 [17:09] <SimonJ> Would skype be a valid optoin got more hands-on appoach to toubleshooting?
#2474 [17:09] <Kealper> smurfman: could you pastebin what the severe error is?
#2475 [17:09] <SkiingPenguins> SimonJ how about teamviewer
#2476 [17:09] <smurfman> is that allowed in the channel?
#2477 [17:10] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com
#2478 [17:10] <SimonJ> SkiingPenguins: Never personally used teamviewer, sounds good
#2479 [17:10] <smurfman> ohhhhhh
#2480 [17:10] <Kealper> lol
#2481 [17:10] <checkzor> so xolotl how would i go about fixing the situation I'm in
#2482 [17:11] <smurfman> http://pastebin.com/eMuwuq8k
#2483 [17:11] <smurfman> I can give you the log file too if you want
#2484 [17:11] <SkiingPenguins> give us everything
#2485 [17:12] <GuluGulu> anyone wonna join my survival server ?:)
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#2487 [17:12] * Kealper has his own server :/
#2487 [17:12] <xales> GuluGulu: Once again, please don't advertise in here. #smp for that
#2488 [17:12] <GuluGulu> soz xales
#2489 [17:12] <PatSter21> http://goput.it/fqz.png
#2490 [17:12] <Kealper> "once again" :O
#2491 [17:12] <PatSter21> What does this mean?
#2492 [17:12] <PatSter21> I can't take a screenshot using F2
#2493 [17:12] <PatSter21> Everything else is fine
#2494 [17:12] <PatSter21> :/
#2495 [17:13] <Kealper> O.o
#2496 [17:13] <xales> PatSter21: Possibly a permission problem
#2497 [17:13] <SimonJ> PatSter21: odd
#2498 [17:14] <SimonJ> PatSter21: Is that your own skin?
#2499 [17:14] <PatSter21> no it's a texture pack
#2500 [17:14] <PatSter21> Not mine though
#2501 [17:15] <SimonJ> whats it called? it looks less over-the-top than the one i'm using
#2502 [17:15] <PatSter21> pantherpack
#2503 [17:15] <PatSter21> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=95053
#2504 [17:15] <SimonJ> I'm going to make the most basic texture pack, By turning the grass and tree colour triangles to the one before biomes
#2505 [17:16] <SimonJ> or has that allready been done?
#2506 [17:16] <Kealper> lots of packs make static textures for biomes
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#2509 [17:17] <SimonJ> Kealper: I was on about the default, like back in alpha. My problem is the exact shade of green
#2510 [17:17] <Kealper> oh
#2511 [17:18] <Kealper> i'd assume you could get it by just looking at the grass side texture, as that does not change with the biomes yet
#2512 [17:18] <SimonJ> IDD
#2513 [17:18] * GreyVulpine shakes
#2513 [17:18] <SimonJ> BRB gents
#2514 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> All the biome-specific stuff has been colored out. It's all grey in the texture pngs.
#2515 [17:19] <SimonJ> GreyVulpine: yup
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#2517 [17:20] <SimonJ> GreyVulpine: I stupidly tried just changing it with textures from the classic .jar, boy was I wrong
#2518 [17:20] <Kealper> but the side textures for grass have not been changed, and remain how they used to before the biome update
#2519 [17:20] <Kealper> lol
#2520 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I don't believe so Kealper.
#2521 [17:20] <SimonJ> I wonder if/when they'll fix the side textures
#2522 [17:20] <Kealper> you can check it out, side textures for grass are not affected by biomes
#2523 [17:21] <SimonJ> theres a folder in the minecraft.jar called "paulscode"
#2524 [17:21] <Kealper> yes there is
#2525 [17:22] <SimonJ> also, anyone have a copy of calm4 from the jar itself? I used stereo mix and youtube and would like a better copy.
#2526 [17:23] <Kealper> uhh....those are not stored in the jar itself
#2527 [17:23] <Kealper> check %appdata%/.minecraft/resources
#2528 [17:24] <Kealper> ogg files though
#2529 [17:24] <SimonJ> Man, do I feel like a bellend
#2530 [17:25] <Kealper> lol
#2531 [17:25] <SimonJ> oh hey, it's there
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#2533 [17:25] <Cloudkicker> Im having trouble getting on to multiplayer. It says "Failed To Login: Bad Login" What does this mean :S? Can anyone lend a hand?
#2534 [17:25] <xales> Cloudkicker: What username?
#2535 [17:26] <Cloudkicker> LeeGraylish
#2536 [17:26] <xales> What version of windows?
#2537 [17:26] <Cloudkicker> Vista
#2538 [17:26] * SimonJ about to laugh at someone for using their own name as username
#2538 [17:26] * SimonJ looks at own
#2538 [17:26] <xales> ok, open Computer->C:->Windows->System32->drivers->etc
#2539 [17:27] <xales> then open the 'hosts' file in Notepad, and copy the contents of this to http://pastebin.com/
#2540 [17:28] <SimonJ> any idea what those two grey things in particles.png is?
#2541 [17:28] <Kealper> SimonJ: uhh...lemme check what you're talking about
#2542 [17:28] <xales> Cloudkicker: Once you finish that, paste the URL it sends you to in here
#2543 [17:28] <SimonJ> one looks like a snorkel and the other a musical note
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#2545 [17:29] <SimonJ> wait, leather armour's textures are called cloth1/2.png
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#2547 [17:30] <Cloudkicker> Now what?
#2548 [17:31] <SimonJ> post the link pastebin gives you here?
#2549 [17:31] <Kealper> SimonJ: the snorkle-looking thing is the fishing hook
#2550 [17:31] <Cloudkicker> Alreadt pasted it to xales.
#2551 [17:31] <xales> Cloudkicker: This is utility that is normally used with getting servers to run
#2552 [17:31] <xales> but we are only interested in the last number it gives
#2553 [17:31] <xales> http://darksigns.net/xales/mchelper.exe
#2554 [17:31] <SimonJ> Kealper: I guess the other particle is for the music box or something?
#2555 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> xales - Did you get the PM from Cloudkicker?
#2556 [17:32] <Kealper> SimonJ: yea
#2557 [17:32] <xales> GreyVulpine: Yes
#2558 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> And?
#2559 [17:32] <xales> It has the adobe registration stuff, but nothing else
#2560 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2561 [17:32] <SimonJ> even with cheats, I never gotten the music box, and I don't know why not.
#2562 [17:32] <Kealper> they are easy to make lol
#2563 [17:33] <Cloudkicker> Does it mean I cannae go on multiplayer?
#2564 [17:33] <xales> Cloudkicker: Does what mean you can't go on multiplayer?
#2565 [17:33] <SimonJ> Kealper: the records seem a bit difficult but I seen a trap that helps.
#2566 [17:33] <Cloudkicker> I thought you meant it was missing something?
#2567 [17:33] <xales> Cloudkicker: Run that program I linked, and paste the last set of numbers it gives you
#2568 [17:33] <Kealper> SimonJ: oh, those...that music note particle is for a "Note Block" not the record player
#2569 [17:34] <SimonJ> Kealper: I so want the music blocks, i havn't seen a recepie yet
#2570 [17:34] <SimonJ> Chucking a minecart past them to get them to play.
#2571 [17:34] <Kealper> the note blocks are just like you are making a chest, but slap a redstone in the middle
#2572 [17:35] <SimonJ> I will investigate this further
#2573 [17:35] <SimonJ> after I half-assedly make a texture pack
#2574 [17:35] <Cloudkicker> 50.16.189.166 ?
#2575 [17:35] <SimonJ> thats your ip?
#2576 [17:36] <Cloudkicker> Thats the last set of numbers on the link I ran from xales...
#2577 [17:36] <xales> Cloudkicker: Ok, thanks..one sec
#2578 [17:36] <Cloudkicker> After that is says Press any key to exit
#2579 [17:36] <xales> Kealper: can you guide Cloudkicker through deleting the bin folder?
#2580 [17:36] <xales> I'm not sure how to do it on Vista
#2581 [17:36] <SimonJ> find bin, hold shift and press delete.
#2582 [17:36] <Kealper> Cloudkicker: open the start menu
#2583 [17:37] <Cloudkicker> Aye..
#2584 [17:37] <Kealper> in the start menu search, put %appdata%/.minecraft
#2585 [17:37] <Kealper> press enter
#2586 [17:37] <SimonJ> xales: same as 7, go to my computer, but %appdata% into the directory bar
#2587 [17:37] <xales> SimonJ: I don't use 7 either
#2588 [17:37] <Kealper> SimonJ: the address bar can be removed
#2589 [17:37] <xales> and I do know how to do it, just not in an easy way that I can walk someone through over the internet
#2590 [17:37] <xales> :)
#2591 [17:37] <checkzor> HOLY CRp
#2592 [17:37] <checkzor> just did dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/output.img bs=8k count=256k
#2593 [17:37] <SimonJ> Kealper: I honestly didn;t know, I keep it for navigation purposes
#2594 [17:37] <checkzor> 498 mb/s
#2595 [17:38] <checkzor> ooooOooooOOoo
#2596 [17:38] <checkzor> fast write/read speed is fast
#2597 [17:38] <Kealper> SimonJ: same, but there have been quite a few times when that is disabled
#2598 [17:38] <SimonJ> whats that? I don't speak bin/bash
#2599 [17:38] <checkzor> means my server has good solid state drives :)
#2600 [17:38] <Cloudkicker> Do I just delete everything thats in Bin?
#2601 [17:38] <xales> Cloudkicker: delete the entire bin folder
#2602 [17:38] <Kealper> or some nice 15k rpm ones
#2603 [17:39] <xales> also, SSDs = shit for minecraft ._.
#2604 [17:39] <SimonJ> I thought it was supposed to be 3Gb/s transfer rates.
#2605 [17:39] <SimonJ> currently, I'd avoid SSD's untill their lifespan has been improved GREATLY
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#2607 [17:39] <Cloudkicker> Closing minecraft first might help -_- lol
#2608 [17:39] <Kealper> SimonJ: that's just the transfer speed of SATA 3.0
#2609 [17:39] <xales> That is how fast the bus can support, not the actual speed
#2610 [17:39] <checkzor> the news ones are fine simon
#2611 [17:39] <Cloudkicker> Ok I deleted "bin"
#2612 [17:39] <checkzor> + i only rent the server
#2613 [17:40] <checkzor> if they go, well then I ask for a replacement
#2614 [17:40] <checkzor> :)
#2615 [17:40] <xales> Cloudkicker: Try re-running Minecraft now
#2616 [17:40] <checkzor> meanwhile i will have sex with my ssd's and the world will be good
#2617 [17:40] <SimonJ> checkzor: Just hope they have backups in the inevitable time they stop.
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#2619 [17:40] <checkzor> it backed up every 3 hours
#2620 [17:40] <Csmos> So do texture packs not change the colors based on bioms? Is that broken or something?
#2621 [17:40] <checkzor> and once a day
#2622 [17:40] <SimonJ> fair enough
#2623 [17:40] <checkzor> uploads a backup to my home machine
#2624 [17:40] <xales> Csmos: Depends on the texture pack, I think..not sure though
#2625 [17:40] <checkzor> so every 3 hours a backup is made that is strored
#2626 [17:40] <Kealper> Csmos: depends if the texture pack actually utilizes biomes
#2627 [17:41] <checkzor> then the last backup of the day is sent to my machine
#2628 [17:41] <checkzor> so all is good
#2629 [17:41] <Csmos> How do you tell if it uses biomes? What files am I looking for
#2630 [17:41] <xales> checkzor: The problem is both that the drives will die quickly, and the way that Minecraft saves files will lag a bit
#2631 [17:41] <Cloudkicker> Seem to be fine... At the main menu... Should I try getting on multiplayer?
#2632 [17:41] <checkzor> if they die, i ask for new ones
#2633 [17:41] <xales> Cloudkicker: Go ahead
#2634 [17:41] <checkzor> meh
#2635 [17:41] <xales> checkzor: Once again, that isn't the only issue
#2636 [17:41] <checkzor> maybe one day notch will actual optimize the server
#2637 [17:41] <xales> they can't perform very many IO operations at once
#2638 [17:41] <curmet> does anyone know where i can talk to someone who handles mincraft billing?
#2639 [17:41] <Kealper> Csmos: if it doesn't change, then it does not support biomes :P
#2640 [17:42] <checkzor> they are in raid?
#2641 [17:42] <xales> curmet: What is the issue?
#2642 [17:42] <checkzor> xales if they are in raid it shouldn't be to bad
#2643 [17:42] <Cloudkicker> Different message "Disconnected By Server" Kicked by admin. So it works :)
#2644 [17:42] <xales> checkzor: RAID is redundancy, not speed
#2645 [17:42] <checkzor> oh
#2646 [17:42] <Cloudkicker> Thank you kindly!
#2647 [17:42] <checkzor> everything seems to work well in game
#2648 [17:42] <Csmos> Kealper: Arg.. Im trying to use the Painterly pack and get it to work with biomes =[
#2649 [17:42] <checkzor> to bad I didn't have 8 gigs of ram
#2650 [17:43] <SimonJ> I like the RAID examples with a water cooler
#2651 [17:43] <checkzor> I would put the world on ramdisk
#2652 [17:43] <Kealper> Csmos: yeah, painterly does not support it unless you choose the customize your own one and select to use biome compliant grass
#2653 [17:43] <curmet> uhh i cant use either of my credit cards to pay either through paypal or the other method do you know why this might be?
#2654 [17:43] <Csmos> Hmm
#2655 [17:43] <SimonJ> what type of card is it?
#2656 [17:43] <xales> curmet: That isn't a problem Mojang could resolve, that is something to take up with your bank
#2657 [17:44] <xales> Are they prepaid or gift cards, by any chance?
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#2659 [17:44] <SimonJ> y0
#2660 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Sup Emp.
#2661 [17:44] <EmpiresBane> hello
#2662 [17:44] <Cloudkicker> Also (sorry for the trouble) I've downloaded a texture pack and I've put all the files into the "texturepacks" folder. but when I try to install it, the files don't show up? and I can't select the new texture
#2663 [17:44] <SimonJ> whats vignette.png for?
#2664 [17:44] <curmet> no but see the problem is i need to donate directly like straight through your email in paypal
#2665 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Cloudkicker - What texture pack?
#2666 [17:44] <xales> Cloudkicker: You have the put the .zip file in the texturepacks folder
#2667 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Is it in .zip format?
#2668 [17:44] <Kealper> SimonJ: i'd have to check, 1 sec
#2669 [17:45] <curmet> it wont let me by clicking the button
#2670 [17:45] <SimonJ> Kealper: thanks man
#2671 [17:45] <xales> curmet: Define 'it wont let me'
#2672 [17:45] <Cloudkicker> Oh I see thank you
#2673 [17:45] <xales> Are you trying to use a prepaid card or a gift card?
#2674 [17:45] <Csmos> Kealper: Is there any special install I need to do with the biome compliant pack?
#2675 [17:45] <curmet> like literally my credit card wont send money that way only if im sending directly to email
#2676 [17:46] <curmet> i cant use donate buttons
#2677 [17:46] <xales> curmet: Once again, is it a prepaid card or gift card?
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#2679 [17:46] <Kealper> Csmos: just choose the option to build your own custom painterly pack on the pack's website
#2680 [17:46] <curmet> nope
#2681 [17:46] <Kealper> SimonJ: where did you find it?
#2682 [17:46] <xales> curmet: You would probably have better luck talking to your bank
#2683 [17:46] <Csmos> Yeah I've done that and picked the compliant textures, but I read somewhere that the in game texture pack thing doesnt apply biome things
#2684 [17:47] <SimonJ> Kealper: Textures\misc\vigenette.png
#2685 [17:47] <curmet> lol but that wont help im saying if you could give me the email i could send that way its the same isnt it?>
#2686 [17:47] <SimonJ> *Vignette
#2687 [17:47] <xales> curmet: No, it isn't. The email they use for PayPal transactions is not known to me, and it could take a very long time to get you account activated that way
#2688 [17:48] <curmet> lol are there any other ways i can pay?
#2689 [17:48] <xales> curmet: If you can't use the card for a certain type of transaction, you should talk to your bank about allowing it
#2690 [17:48] <checkzor> I want xolotl to come back :(
#2691 [17:48] <checkzor> he knew why port 2008 wasn't working :(
#2692 [17:48] <xales> checkzor: Nothing was trying to use port 2008
#2693 [17:48] <checkzor> it was
#2694 [17:48] <xales> Nope
#2695 [17:48] <checkzor> teamspeak 3 was trying
#2696 [17:48] <xales> What error did you get?
#2697 [17:49] <checkzor> it wasn't at the moment when i did those commands
#2698 [17:49] <checkzor> cannot use port 2008
#2699 [17:49] <curmet> well can i buy a "gift code" directly off someone?
#2700 [17:49] <Kealper> SimonJ: looks like the texture that darkens the edges of the screen when not holding F1 ingame
#2701 [17:49] <checkzor> then we checked my firewall
#2702 [17:49] <checkzor> and it was open
#2703 [17:49] <xales> checkzor: That is a different error completely
#2704 [17:49] <SimonJ> Kealper: Thanks
#2705 [17:49] <xales> it isn't a firewall problem
#2706 [17:49] <checkzor> we figured that out :s
#2707 [17:49] <SimonJ> Router?
#2708 [17:49] <xales> did you configure TeamSpeak to use port 2008?
#2709 [17:49] <xales> I don't think it is the default
#2710 [17:50] <checkzor> it is
#2711 [17:50] <checkzor> didn't touch any configuration
#2712 [17:50] <xales> Is that exactly what it says? Nothing else?
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#2714 [17:51] <SimonJ> I wish they added the Beta colour blocks alongside the old colour blocks in creative.
#2715 [17:51] <xales> Shadow386: Does you use centos
#2716 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> SimonJ - creative development has stopped a long time ago
#2717 [17:52] <SimonJ> GreyVulpine: sadly ;_;
#2718 [17:52] <checkzor> let me try executing it again
#2719 [17:53] <SimonJ> I'd love to know java so I can add somethings to the classic game.
#2720 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> There's quite a few custom clients/servers out for classic
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#2722 [17:53] <SimonJ> GreyVulpine: Adding blocks?
#2723 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> I don't know
#2724 [17:54] <SimonJ> Adding doors, ladders and adding the new colours would make it perfect, IMO
#2725 [17:54] <xolotl> checkzor: Yeah, I'm around
#2726 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, if you wanted to play beta, you'd buy it.
#2727 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> And not have to depend on an outdated form of minecraft
#2728 [17:55] <SimonJ> GreyVulpine: Allready bought it, if thats what you mean
#2729 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Ah, sorry.
#2730 [17:55] <SimonJ> It just would be nice to add the extras for pixel art servers, ladders for RPG servers, and doors instead of having re-appearing blocks.
#2731 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Notch has said that "Creative" mode is a step in the line to Final Release of minecraft
#2732 [17:56] <SimonJ> I know that, I would like it to be more of a branch.
#2733 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> And minecraft is constantly evolving, everything you see right now isn't all that's going to be in minecraft
#2734 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> For.. classic?
#2735 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> I don't get what you're trying to say.
#2736 [17:57] <xales> Interesting...the mouse on my laptop just stopped working
#2737 [17:57] <SimonJ> yea, a branch of minecraft, purely for the way classic playes, have the pay for version for al the new modes still
#2738 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Classic is done. Finished. there is no more development planned for classic.
#2739 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> You start to pull Notch away from beta development, and you'll catch flak from minecraft players whining that Notch doesn't devote enough time
#2740 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> And I wouldn't want to stand in that firing line.
#2741 [17:59] <SimonJ> seeing as they have the code and it's all been "tried and tested" It should be that large of a deviation.
#2742 [17:59] <SimonJ> *Shouldn't
#2743 [17:59] <EmpiresBane> xales, batteries?
#2744 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> It's an entirely new engine.
#2745 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> Rewritten
#2746 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> There is no "porting" over beta to classic
#2747 [18:00] <xales> Trackpad
#2748 [18:00] <dopeghoti> xales: some trackpad have batteries. Like the "magic" one.
#2749 [18:00] * xolotl isn't sure what the functional difference is, as a user, between a "creative" branch, and an option in the GUI that lets you move a slider over to "creative"
#2749 [18:01] <dopeghoti> or indeed in the client only allowing selecting 'survival' if the client has logged in.
#2750 [18:01] <xales> dopeghoti: works now, but this trackpad doesn't have batteries
#2751 [18:01] <SimonJ> xolotl: that would probably be an easier option
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#2753 [18:02] <xolotl> SimonJ: That's something that Notch mentioned in his Twitter
#2754 [18:02] * xales goes to afkland
#2754 [18:02] <xolotl> He's always said that there'll eventually be some kind of "creative" mode again, AFAIK.
#2755 [18:02] * GreyVulpine nods
#2755 [18:03] <xolotl> (though to be fair, personally I'd rather have a bunch of checkboxes than a slider, but whatever. :)
#2756 [18:03] <SimonJ> A slider for difficulties would be nice
#2757 [18:03] <dopeghoti> I'd be inclined to also prefer a series of toggles and sliders rather than just one slider.
#2758 [18:04] <SimonJ> like advanced options?
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#2760 [18:04] <SimonJ> being on peaceful and telling the animals to dissapear
#2761 [18:04] <SimonJ> makeing it truely "peiceful"
#2762 [18:04] <SimonJ> and I spelled that wrong.
#2763 [18:04] <dopeghoti> or keeping monsters but turning off the day/night cycle, say
#2764 [18:05] <SimonJ> hmm
#2765 [18:05] <dopeghoti> or keeping everything but turning off falling damage
#2766 [18:05] <SimonJ> brilliant
#2767 [18:05] <dopeghoti> or all the other permutations of 'difficulty'
#2768 [18:05] <SimonJ> or cheating in caves, turn of the new light rendering.
#2769 [18:05] <EmpiresBane> paradise used to keep monsters, but have no day/night cycle
#2770 [18:05] <EmpiresBane> i liked that
#2771 [18:06] <dopeghoti> Interesting mod idea for when the API is out: set time of day based on player location
#2772 [18:06] <SimonJ> If I had the skill, I would honestly approach Notch and ask if I could use Classic has a base for improvements, so HE can keep upgrading what it is now, I could branch
#2773 [18:06] <dopeghoti> "Farther to the West, darkness falls, and monsters are known to walk the earth- but there also lie vast mineral riches!
#2774 [18:07] <SimonJ> dopeghoti: weaklings stay at noon
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#2776 [18:08] <SimonJ> dopeghoti: I had an idea for having the world loop on itself to somewhat simulate going around a small planetoid of sorts
#2777 [18:08] <SimonJ> then someone asked me "What about bedrock" then I facepalmed
#2778 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Missiles. Minecraft needs nukes.
#2779 [18:09] <SimonJ> brb, crafting china
#2780 [18:09] <SimonJ> For the red army
#2781 [18:10] <SimonJ> then have a sumulated war between cuberica and cube-china
#2782 [18:11] <SimonJ> what are those textures below the lapus lazuli textures?
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#2784 [18:14] <SimonJ> y0
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#2786 [18:15] <mib_cif7fc> hello i need some help. I have bought minecraft on the 19. January over paypal and my accont is still not prem ... how come ??? even the support didn't reakt after i send an email over paypal!
#2787 [18:15] <SimonJ> whats trap.png for?
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#2789 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_cif7fc - Send an email to daniel@mojang.com with your paypal transaction ID, your minecraft username, and a short description of your problem
#2790 [18:17] <mib_cif7fc> thanhs
#2791 [18:17] <mib_cif7fc> thanks
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#2794 [18:22] <Sunamiwater> Does anyone know where to find the server number for new servers? You know, the one that you put in the multiplayer bar thing to go into the server?
#2795 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Sunamiwater - http://mcserverlist.net/
#2796 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Also http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#2797 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> or servers.minecraftforum.net/
#2798 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> or http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers
#2799 [18:23] <Csmos> Grrr why the hell does minecraft always blackscreen >.<
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#2802 [18:26] <Sunamiwater> No, I mean one that you as a player find of your own.
#2803 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#2804 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> It's all there
#2805 [18:28] <SimonJ> Csmos: Any details on when it happens?
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#2813 [18:41] <Csmos> SimonJ: Uhm not really, i dont know how to get crash reports
#2814 [18:42] <EmpiresBane> is there always a particular thing happening?
#2815 [18:42] <Csmos> It seems to happen randomly, Im just exploring walking around and it black screens
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#2817 [18:44] <Csmos> Im using Battle Towers, creatures, crystal clear water, guiAPI,nyctophobia,telecompass, tree drops, zanminimap, DOF, BL-BG, biome terrain
#2818 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Gah
#2819 [18:45] <SimonJ> Csmos: Whats nyctophobia do?
#2820 [18:45] <Csmos> speeds up night or day
#2821 [18:45] <SimonJ> and battle towers
#2822 [18:45] <Csmos> random huge towers with mobs increasing in difficulty per level
#2823 [18:45] <SimonJ> AWESOME
#2824 [18:46] <SimonJ> BL-BG?
#2825 [18:46] <Csmos> better lighting and better grass
#2826 [18:46] <xales> Csmos: Try running without any mods
#2827 [18:46] <SimonJ> sweet
#2828 [18:46] <xales> I'm guessing that is part of the problem
#2829 [18:46] <xales> is* the problem
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#2831 [18:47] <Csmos> xales: I have a hunch that minecraft is running out of memory or something
#2832 [18:47] <xales> Csmos: How much RAM does your computer have?
#2833 [18:47] <Csmos> 6gb
#2834 [18:47] <xales> That likely isn't the issue then
#2835 [18:47] <xales> I could almost guarantee it's one of the mods
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#2837 [18:49] <Csmos> I think it might be better lighting better grass but nobody else has issues with it =/
#2838 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Can't be certain of that
#2839 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Everybody's setup is different.
#2840 [18:50] <xales> And mods can tend to have issues with each other
#2841 [18:51] <Diablothein> Any linux users in here?
#2842 [18:51] <xales> Diablothein: Nope
#2843 [18:51] <xales> whatcha need?
#2844 [18:52] <Diablothein> Someone who is logged onto a linux machine.
#2845 [18:52] * xales is
#2845 [18:52] <mbentley> yay linux
#2846 [18:52] * mbentley is
#2846 [18:52] <Diablothein> open up terminal, type in apt-get moo
#2847 [18:52] <mbentley> super cow powers, etc
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#2849 [18:53] <xales> ololol
#2850 [18:53] <xales> [rangernox@darksigns:2011/espernet]$ aptitude moo (02-01 17:40)
#2851 [18:53] <xales> There are no Easter Eggs in this program.
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#2854 [18:55] <mbentley> lol @ https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/56125
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#2857 [18:58] <xales> lol
#2858 [18:59] <dopeghoti> I always thought https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 was funny
#2859 [18:59] <dopeghoti> "Confirmed/Critical"
#2860 [19:00] <mbentley> lol dopeghoti
#2861 [19:00] <mbentley> that's awesome
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#2863 [19:03] <dopeghoti> Ah, look who's warped into the sector.
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#2866 [19:06] <Csmos> Ok so the game still crashes with no mods, black screen and freeze
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#2868 [19:10] <SimonJ> Csmos: Only things I can think of are: backup the game files and download again, reinstall java, reinstall/upgrade graphics drivers or even try a different graphics card.
#2869 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> Csmos: mind trying something outlandish?
#2870 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> (this is Windows, right?)
#2871 [19:10] <Csmos> I did a complete reinstall of minecraft and i have the latest graphics drivers
#2872 [19:11] <Csmos> yeah windows
#2873 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> Csmos: Create a new user profile, log in as that user, and see if the problem persists there.
#2874 [19:11] <Csmos> What is the reason for that
#2875 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> If it does, there's something wrong with Windows itself, or your drivers. If it does not, the problem is something running under your normal user profile.
#2876 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> In the latter case, you at least know what to start eliminating next.
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#2878 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> You'd be surprised how often this works.
#2879 [19:12] <Csmos> this windows install is only a few days old =/
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#2881 [19:13] <SimonJ> Might I ask, what graphics card/chip are you using?
#2882 [19:13] <Csmos> gtx 295
#2883 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> Csmos: even so, it's worth a try.
#2884 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> worst case: it still doesn't work there; best case: you know where to look next for a fix, and you can at least play.
#2885 [19:25] <checkzor> god damn
#2886 [19:25] <checkzor> arghhh
#2887 [19:25] <checkzor> piece of crap screen linux program
#2888 [19:25] <checkzor> :(
#2889 [19:25] <checkzor> one of the screen socket sessions froze
#2890 [19:25] <checkzor> and when i attach to said session
#2891 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> kill it
#2892 [19:25] <checkzor> it hangs
#2893 [19:25] <checkzor> and I cannot kill it
#2894 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> kill -9 it
#2895 [19:25] <checkzor> I'm doing something very wrong
#2896 [19:27] <checkzor> grey I pmed you
#2897 [19:28] <checkzor> I want to punch linux in the face atm :/
#2898 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> checkzor - list of ps -a
#2899 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> checkzor?
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#2901 [19:34] <xMopx> Hey, does anyone know of a good into to making minceaft mods? I'm decent at java but don't know where to start with this.
#2902 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> Try #risucraft
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#2904 [19:36] <aetherian> heh
#2905 [19:37] <checkzor> woop sorry back grey
#2906 [19:38] <aetherian> whoa check, you still have problems?
#2907 [19:39] * xales pokes GreyVulpine
#2907 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> bwah, what?
#2908 [19:39] <xales> checkzor is back
#2909 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#2910 [19:39] <checkzor> ya
#2911 [19:39] <checkzor> gonna kill something
#2912 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Yo, could i get the output of ps -a?
#2913 [19:39] <checkzor> sure
#2914 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Should be simple to just kill -9 that pid
#2915 [19:40] <xales> Is screen itself frozen?
#2916 [19:40] <xales> or just a window
#2917 [19:40] <xales> (c-a k
#2918 [19:40] <xales> to kill a window in screen
#2919 [19:40] <checkzor> http://pastebin.com/PZjKUKMY
#2920 [19:40] <checkzor> I want to end all sessions
#2921 [19:40] <xales> c-a d
#2922 [19:41] <xales> err
#2923 [19:41] <xales> c-a k
#2924 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Well, you know what you can do..
#2925 [19:41] <xales> over and over
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#2927 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> kill -9 5467
#2928 [19:41] <xales> or that
#2929 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> kill -9 7476
#2930 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> kill -9 21905
#2931 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> kill -9 25713
#2932 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> That's all your screen processes
#2933 [19:42] <jedahan> 'pkill -9 screen' would probably work too
#2934 [19:42] <jedahan> but thats partial matching, so beware
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#2936 [19:42] <ArmEagle> sigh.. monsters should not spawn in trees :)
#2937 [19:42] <checkzor> agreed
#2938 [19:42] <mbentley> you can also put multiple pids on a single line
#2939 [19:43] <checkzor> alright now how do I start screen
#2940 [19:43] <checkzor> err
#2941 [19:43] <checkzor> nvm
#2942 [19:43] <checkzor> now my screen -ls command does not work :(
#2943 [19:43] <xales> use screen -raAD
#2944 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: howabout killall screen :[
#2945 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> That too
#2946 [19:43] <xales> DopeGhoti: Not on Solaris!
#2947 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> xales: pgrep screen | xargs kill -9
#2948 [19:44] <xales> :<
#2949 [19:44] <checkzor> xales
#2950 [19:44] <checkzor> command not work :(
#2951 [19:44] <checkzor> screen -raAD
#2952 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Look, never said I was a *nix guru. Last time I touched *nix was several years ago
#2953 [19:44] <xales> checkzor: define 'not work'
#2954 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: well, now you know (:
#2955 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> My skills have faded considerably.
#2956 [19:44] <checkzor> bash: s: command not found
#2957 [19:44] <xales> you typed it wrong then
#2958 [19:45] <checkzor> ARRGH
#2959 [19:45] <checkzor> ALL THE SESSIONS ARE STILL THERE
#2960 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Wait, what..
#2961 [19:45] <checkzor> I want them gone for good
#2962 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> checkzor: you sure they're not listed as 'dead'?
#2963 [19:45] <xales> 'reboot'
#2964 [19:45] <xales> :>
#2965 [19:45] <checkzor> oh hey they are
#2966 [19:45] * GreyVulpine snerks
#2966 [19:45] <checkzor> I can resume them
#2967 [19:45] <checkzor> I want to get rid of them forever
#2968 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> in which case you can clear the list with `screen -wipe`
#2969 [19:45] <checkzor> oh
#2970 [19:46] <xales> lol, this is why I use tmux
#2971 [19:46] <checkzor> finally no sockets
#2972 [19:46] <checkzor> oh thanks good ness
#2973 [19:46] <checkzor> and what is tmux
#2974 [19:47] <xales> \o/
#2975 [19:47] <xales> http://darksigns.net/screenshots/SS-2011-01-30_12.18.49.png
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#2977 [19:47] <checkzor> O_o
#2978 [19:47] <checkzor> what does that do
#2979 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> tmux looks comparable to screen in many ways
#2980 [19:48] <checkzor> trying to comprehend
#2981 [19:48] <xales> it is very similar to screen
#2982 [19:48] <xales> but it just makes more sense
#2983 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> sudo -u xales diff screen tmux
#2984 [19:48] <xales> the config format isn't retarded
#2985 [19:48] <checkzor> that sounds good
#2986 [19:48] <xales> so fun story
#2987 [19:49] <xales> ctrl-s breaks tmux
#2988 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> that sounds bad.
#2989 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> does ^q fix it?
#2990 [19:49] <xales> or...I don't know how to undo it anyway
#2991 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> Try ^q
#2992 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> ^s is XOFF; ^q is XON
#2993 [19:50] <xales> :O
#2994 [19:50] <xales> tyvm
#2995 [19:50] <mbentley> i just use screen because it is what i know well and have used for a while
#2996 [19:50] <mbentley> same reason i still use alpine for my email :D
#2997 [19:50] <xales> DopeGhoti: Where did you find this
#2998 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> xales: knowledge of terminal flow control?
#2999 [19:51] <xales> unbind-key C-q
#3000 [19:51] <xales> DopeGhoti: :P
#3001 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> xales: don't you want to unbind ^s; not ^q?
#3002 [19:52] <xales> probably
#3003 [19:54] <checkzor> argh I hit ctrl-a-k and it won't kill my window!!!!
#3004 [19:54] <checkzor> fuuuuuuuuuuu
#3005 [19:54] <checkzor> this screen program
#3006 [19:54] <checkzor> i swear
#3007 [19:54] <Szernex_> I know that's not MC related, but anyone got any experience with video encoding?
#3008 [19:55] <xales> checkzor: Its control-a
#3009 [19:55] <xales> then k
#3010 [19:55] <xales> not one sequence
#3011 [19:55] <checkzor> still didn't work
#3012 [19:55] <checkzor> oh hey
#3013 [19:55] <checkzor> shit k
#3014 [19:55] <checkzor> for capital k
#3015 [19:56] <xales> why are you trying to kill it anyway?
#3016 [19:56] <checkzor> wanted to end it
#3017 [19:56] <checkzor> to be organized
#3018 [19:56] <checkzor> and such
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#3020 [19:58] <checkzor> what the hell
#3021 [19:58] <checkzor> I close then reopen putty
#3022 [19:58] <checkzor> go in
#3023 [19:58] <checkzor> 7 sockets open in screen
#3024 [19:58] <checkzor> the same 7 which I closed before
#3025 [19:59] <checkzor> tell me what the hell is going on
#3026 [20:01] <checkzor> i swear this screen bs will be the end of me
#3027 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> If you're trying to be organized, why are you opening seven screen sessions rather than seven terminals in one screen?
#3028 [20:03] <checkzor> i had no idea what I was doing
#3029 [20:03] <checkzor> now I want to end all of these bloody sockets
#3030 [20:03] <checkzor> :/
#3031 [20:03] <xales> screen -killall
#3032 [20:03] <xales> probably
#3033 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> `screen -ls`; pick a pid. `screen -x $pid`; end whatever you're doing in that screen, and it will terminate itself
#3034 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> or, if they're sitting at bash shells, killall bash
#3035 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> (and then re-login)
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#3037 [20:06] <checkzor> wow
#3038 [20:06] <checkzor> things frozen
#3039 [20:07] <checkzor> i type screen -ls and hit enter
#3040 [20:07] <checkzor> it moves down a line :/
#3041 [20:07] <checkzor> what the hell
#3042 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> checkzor: pastebin the output of `pstree -p`
#3043 [20:08] <checkzor> I can't use any commands
#3044 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> and make it snappy; I'm about to go home (:
#3045 [20:08] <checkzor> it just keep moving down a line
#3046 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> press ctrl-\
#3047 [20:08] <checkzor> in the terminal :/
#3048 [20:09] <checkzor> http://pastebin.com/E0e4MRbu
#3049 [20:11] <checkzor> well?
#3050 [20:11] <xales> you have too many screen session open
#3051 [20:11] <xales> killall -9 screen
#3052 [20:11] <checkzor> thanks -_-
#3053 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> `for pid in {407{5,6},1383{0,1},14818,15753,15755,216{59,60},22129,22131,32025,32026,32336,32350,32605,22363,22364,15974,15975,17775,17783}; do kill $pid; done`
#3054 [20:12] <xales> ..or that
#3055 [20:12] <xales> how long did that take to type, dope? lol
#3056 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> xales: that'd just kill screen, but the shells would stay up and the PTYs would still exist.
#3057 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> xales: about 30 seconds?
#3058 [20:12] <xales> it should kill subprocesses?
#3059 [20:12] <xales> err, child
#3060 [20:12] <checkzor> so I just paste what you typed?
#3061 [20:12] <xales> yes
#3062 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> xales: if you kill screen, it kills the screen session, but not the virtual terminal. This is by design.
#3063 [20:12] <Shadow386> xales you pinged me?
#3064 [20:13] <xales> Shadow386: Aparrantly. I forgot why
#3065 [20:13] <Shadow386> centos
#3066 [20:13] <Shadow386> I use it
#3067 [20:13] <Shadow386> ctrl+a d terminates screen session, but not the screen itself. so server can still run
#3068 [20:13] <checkzor> damn
#3069 [20:13] <checkzor> I can't copy paste that
#3070 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> so retype it.
#3071 [20:14] <checkzor> lol yay
#3072 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> why can you suddenly not copy or paste text?
#3073 [20:14] <xales> Shadow386: teach checkzor to screen
#3074 [20:14] <xales> :P
#3075 [20:14] <Shadow386> screen -rd returns most recently disconnected screen
#3076 [20:14] <Shadow386> screen opens a new one
#3077 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> and this tears it- over the next week, I am writing a 'how to use screen' guide, with a side order of 'to run Minecraft servers'
#3078 [20:14] <Shadow386> to exit screen without ending the process is ctrl+a then press d
#3079 [20:15] <Shadow386> screen -ls lists active screens
#3080 [20:15] <xales> DopeGhoti: Do it
#3081 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: we've covered this. Captain Neophyte here has about a baker's dozen screens running.
#3082 [20:15] <Shadow386> screen -r <screenname> opens that screen
#3083 [20:15] <Shadow386> all I know
#3084 [20:15] <Shadow386> oh my
#3085 [20:15] <xales> Shadow386: http://pastebin.com/E0e4MRbu
#3086 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> also, screen -S. learn it. Live it. Love it.
#3087 [20:15] <Shadow386> DopeGhoti I believe if they dont know HOW to run a server, they honestly shouldn't unless they are old enough and have the responsibility and time
#3088 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> who heeds PIDs when you can just name them?
#3089 [20:16] <Shadow386> good point dope
#3090 [20:16] <xales> also %
#3091 [20:16] <Shadow386> never attempted it
#3092 [20:16] <xales> jobs
#3093 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: I'm inclined to agree.
#3094 [20:16] <xales> kill %1
#3095 [20:16] <xales> etc
#3096 [20:16] * Shadow386 kill pid xales
#3096 [20:16] <Shadow386> well cant be pid
#3097 [20:16] <Shadow386> needs numbers
#3098 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: pretty easy .. `screen -dmS title /path/to/foo.sh` will start a screen called 'title' running foo.sh
#3099 [20:16] <xales> kill -SIGXALES 1
#3100 [20:16] <xales> :>
#3101 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> to reattach, screen -x title
#3102 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> (or screen -r)
#3103 [20:17] <Shadow386> gotta try that next time
#3104 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> I always use -x because I work with a lot of multiuser screens.
#3105 [20:17] <Shadow386> i run two minecraft servers plus a test server to test new mods and features
#3106 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> (and -x is otherwise identical to -r)
#3107 [20:17] <Shadow386> so its good to know what screens you have
#3108 [20:17] <xales> just use one screen
#3109 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: you should run them all in one screen
#3110 [20:17] <xales> with lots of windows that have titles
#3111 [20:17] <checkzor> NOOOOO
#3112 [20:17] <xales> :P
#3113 [20:17] <Shadow386> how so?
#3114 [20:17] <checkzor> after all that tying
#3115 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> ^a^c opens a new terminal within the same screen session.
#3116 [20:17] <checkzor> fuuuuuuuuuuuu
#3117 [20:18] <checkzor> gah
#3118 [20:18] <checkzor> what the hell
#3119 [20:18] <Shadow386> I cant run nogui three times in one screen
#3120 [20:18] <xales> checkzor: the up-arrow key
#3121 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> sure you can
#3122 [20:18] <Shadow386> meh its easier with this
#3123 [20:18] <Shadow386> :D
#3124 [20:18] <Shadow386> for me anywho
#3125 [20:18] <xales> Shadow386: control-a c
#3126 [20:18] <xales> make new window
#3127 [20:18] <xales> control-a (number)
#3128 [20:18] <xales> go to wndow number
#3129 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> you're misconflating screen with terminal session
#3130 [20:18] <xales> control-a a
#3131 [20:18] <Shadow386> and I've grown acustom to it
#3132 [20:18] <xales> switch between screen windows
#3133 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> I'd done one-terminal-per-screen for years, but as soon as I started _really_ using screen, producivity skyrocketed.
#3134 [20:19] <checkzor> -bash: kill: {40717783: arguments must be process or job IDs
#3135 [20:19] <checkzor> i got like a trillion of those
#3136 [20:19] <checkzor> for each id
#3137 [20:19] <checkzor> :(
#3138 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> checkzor: then you mistyped. copy and paste next time
#3139 [20:19] <checkzor> it won't copy and paste :/
#3140 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> and now, I go home and start hashing out the outline of 'how to screen'
#3141 [20:19] <checkzor> it glitches up
#3142 [20:19] <Shadow386> to copy and paste in terminal/putty
#3143 [20:19] <xales> hint: you right-click to paste in PuTTY
#3144 [20:19] <checkzor> it pasts like 1/3rd
#3145 [20:19] <Shadow386> highlight to copy
#3146 [20:19] <checkzor> I know :/
#3147 [20:19] <checkzor> I KNOW
#3148 [20:19] <checkzor> it won't properly paste in putty
#3149 [20:20] <Shadow386> then you're doin it wrong
#3150 [20:20] <Shadow386> what are you copy/pasting?
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#3152 [20:20] <xales> `for pid in {407{5,6},1383{0,1},14818,15753,15755,216{59,60},22129,22131,32025,32026,32336,32350,32605,22363,22364,15974,15975,17775,17783}; do kill $pid; done`
#3153 [20:20] <checkzor> ok that time it pasted enough that I could complete
#3154 [20:20] <checkzor> but he made a typo :/
#3155 [20:20] <checkzor> not me
#3156 [20:21] <checkzor> so to figure out which is the typo :(
#3157 [20:21] <xales> I don't see any typos
#3158 [20:21] <checkzor> an ID is wrong
#3159 [20:21] <checkzor> 1 ID is wrong
#3160 [20:21] <dopeghoti> even if I fat-fingered one ID, the rest will still get killed.
#3161 [20:21] <dopeghoti> anyhow, off to home! \o/
#3162 [20:21] <dopeghoti> *bamf*
#3163 [20:21] <checkzor> whats the command to see if they are dead?
#3164 [20:22] <checkzor> ââscreen(7477)âââbash(7478)
#3165 [20:22] <checkzor> is still alive
#3166 [20:25] <checkzor> alright killed it
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#3168 [20:28] <checkzor> Ok so how is my teamspeak 3 server still running if it's in a screen session
#3169 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> different process
#3170 [20:28] <checkzor> which are apparently all dead says pstree -p
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#3172 [20:29] <checkzor> ugh linux is getting to me, I just right clicked to paste into paste bin
#3173 [20:29] <checkzor> instead of ctrl v
#3174 [20:29] <checkzor> http://pastebin.com/h8tgiPGC
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#3177 [20:31] <checkzor> wooot connection lost on ts3
#3178 [20:31] <checkzor> I DID IT
#3179 [20:31] <checkzor> i killed all sessions and screen bullshit
#3180 [20:31] <checkzor> finally
#3181 [20:31] <mib_yu42gf> it wont open because it says registry refers to a non exsitent java runtime environment installation
#3182 [20:32] <mib_yu42gf> what should i do
#3183 [20:33] <checkzor> how go I upload a file to my vps from my main computer
#3184 [20:33] <checkzor> normally I use wget then download link
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#3186 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_yu42gf - Say what?
#3187 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> What won't open?
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#3189 [20:34] <Cryptokid> hallo
#3190 [20:34] <mib_yu42gf> minecraft
#3191 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_yu42gf - And how were you launching it?
#3192 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> And minecraft doesn't do registry. What's the exact error you get?
#3193 [20:35] <Cryptokid> I am in need of server setup help, but it appears ur busy, ill wait a sec
#3194 [20:35] <mib_yu42gf> i just downloaded it and im trying to open it from my desktop bc i moved it there
#3195 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Cryptokid - Please just ask, another person will help you
#3196 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_yu42gf - With what OS?
#3197 [20:36] <mib_yu42gf> launch4j
#3198 [20:36] <Cryptokid> its k I can probably help with this guy first
#3199 [20:36] <mib_yu42gf> windows 7
#3200 [20:36] <Cryptokid> whats his problem
#3201 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> mib_yu42gf - And what's the exact error you get?
#3202 [20:37] <mib_yu42gf> the registry refers to a nonexistent java runtime environment installation or the runtime is corrupted the sistem cannot find the file specified
#3203 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Might need to reinstall your java then, Go uninstall java from your control panel, then install java from java.com
#3204 [20:38] <Cryptokid> while he does that
#3205 [20:38] <mib_yu42gf> ok
#3206 [20:38] <Cryptokid> I am trying to get a minecraft server running
#3207 [20:38] <Cryptokid> but am having trouble
#3208 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem?
#3209 [20:39] <Cryptokid> I have a couple
#3210 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Shoot.
#3211 [20:39] <Cryptokid> firstly, mcafee is terrible lol
#3212 [20:39] * GreyVulpine agrees
#3212 [20:39] <Cryptokid> lol
#3213 [20:40] <Cryptokid> it does a good job at keeping things secure, but it blocks tons of stuff with no good faq anywhere on how do get by it
#3214 [20:40] <Cryptokid> anyway
#3215 [20:40] <Cryptokid> i think ill just start wit ha fresh mc server
#3216 [20:40] <Cryptokid> i was gonna do hmod
#3217 [20:40] <Cryptokid> and it worked yesterday
#3218 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> hmod is no longer compatible with the latest server binary
#3219 [20:41] <Cryptokid> it was updated by some guy recently
#3220 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Nobody's really developing it any further, you might get unofficial updates from a person...
#3221 [20:41] <Cryptokid> i know
#3222 [20:41] <Cryptokid> bukkit is being devoloped I only ran hmod because it was a test for another community
#3223 [20:42] * GreyVulpine nods
#3223 [20:42] <Cryptokid> do you know anything about bukkit server setup? i havent tried it yet
#3224 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Not a whole lot, you'll want #bukkit for that
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#3226 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> <+Bukkingham> craftbukkit-snapshot is http://artifacts.lukegb.com/artifactory/plugins-snapshot-local/org/bukkit/craftbukkit/0.0.1-SNAPSHOT/craftbukkit-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar
#3227 [20:43] <Cryptokid> thx, ill come back if i cant do anything there
#3228 [20:43] <ArmEagle> argh.. and I was so looking forward to minecartmania.. have dispenser probs.. And Multiplay doesn't have the last version (yet) that fixes some problems
#3229 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> That's the file you'll want to get for bukkit
#3230 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> And..
#3231 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/faq-2-how-do-i-run-a-craftbukkit-server.462/
#3232 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> That's the how to
#3233 [20:44] <Cryptokid> thx, ill get to work on that
#3234 [20:47] <mib_yu42gf> wow im running off pda net and this is gonna take like 30 min to download and by then i will have a formation
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#3237 [20:49] <AmonT> do i need opengl to run mc?
#3238 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3239 [20:49] <Cryptokid> for the server ip should i use my internal ip or external (in server properties)
#3240 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> leave it blank Cryptokid
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#3242 [20:50] <Cryptokid> why?
#3243 [20:50] <AmonT> ati xpress 1300. does it support opengl?
#3244 [20:50] <xales> The server-ip line is for servers with more than one IP
#3245 [20:50] <xales> AmonT: You do need OpenGL
#3246 [20:50] <Cryptokid> ah
#3247 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Cryptokid - It's for people with multliple NICs, if you put in your external IP, it will either not start, or will only accept outside connections
#3248 [20:52] <isuperior> Can anyone help me? I'm having issues playing offline but I can play on the site fine
#3249 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> isuperior - What issues?
#3250 [20:52] <SkiingPenguins> what kind of issues?
#3251 [20:52] <Cryptokid> i would use localhost to connect then right?
#3252 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Cryptokid - If you haven't port forwarded, yes.
#3253 [20:53] <Cryptokid> it should be, unless mcafee continues its stupidy
#3254 [20:53] <isuperior> I can download the Minecraft.exe client but when I click on it to run Minecraft I get the box to ask if it's okay to run it and then I hear the Windows *DUM* error sound
#3255 [20:53] <isuperior> I've tried both download links
#3256 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> isuperior - How much RAM do you have on the system?
#3257 [20:53] <Cryptokid> that was an ironic spelling of stupidity lol
#3258 [20:53] <AmonT> what versions of opengl support mc?
#3259 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> 1.3+
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#3261 [20:54] <mib_ib60cz> when i have the minecraft premium account how to i get on a server to play like survival mode with a friend?
#3262 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_ib60cz - You either find a server that's free, or you have your friend, or yourself, make a server
#3263 [20:55] <isuperior> I'm not sure how much RAM I have, how can I find out?
#3264 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> isuperior - Depends on what operating system you have
#3265 [20:56] <isuperior> Oh, found it 896 MB of RAM
#3266 [20:56] <xales> ._.
#3267 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> That.. would be why
#3268 [20:56] <SkiingPenguins> oh snap
#3269 [20:56] <AmonT> http://www.topshareware.com/opengl-1.3-drivers/downloads/1.htm which one do i dl?
#3270 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> AmonT - You don't download OpenGL by itself. OpenGL should be included in your video driver's package
#3271 [20:57] <Cryptokid> seems to be running for me, now i need to test if someone else can join
#3272 [20:57] <xales> If it isn't included, then it isn't supported, AmonT
#3273 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Cryptokid - Run a !check
#3274 [20:57] <AmonT> :(
#3275 [20:57] <AmonT> thanks anyway
#3276 [20:58] <Cryptokid> i would give them this info right [external ip]:25565
#3277 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Just the external ip
#3278 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> You only need the port if it's non-default
#3279 [20:58] <xales> !check 24.57.161.161
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#3281 [20:58] <xales> ._.
#3282 [20:58] <SkiingPenguins> GreyVulpine everytime i go to type something you type it faster than me O_o
#3283 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> I have been trained well in the art of Ninja'd™
#3284 [20:58] <Cryptokid> when did u get my ip? lol
#3285 [20:58] <SkiingPenguins> lol
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#3287 [20:59] <SkiingPenguins> this is the internet.. people can do that
#3288 [20:59] <xales> Cryptokid: Welcome to IRC
#3289 [20:59] <Cryptokid> i know
#3290 [20:59] <Cryptokid> but that was fast lol
#3291 [20:59] <Cryptokid> anyway
#3292 [20:59] <xales> /whois
#3293 [20:59] <xales> :)
#3294 [20:59] <xolotl> Cryptokid: IPs are very transparent in IRC; many clients will display it automatically as soon as somebody joins a channel
#3295 [20:59] <Cryptokid> let me turn off crapafee
#3296 [21:00] <xales> xolotl: And anywhere else, the server knows your IP when you connect to anything :)
#3297 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Also, if you're on it, windows firewall
#3298 [21:00] <XaoMoaX> Hi. I built a small cart system. It has the fuel cart, then the storage, then the travel one for me. The problem is, once I had it race up the tracks, it hit the wall and well, the carts vanished. Other than one. Is there any way to build a proper stop point that won't send them through the wall? Also, what's a good way to send them back down properly?
#3299 [21:00] <isuperior> wait, I think I found the right number this time, 1,024 MB of RAM so basically 1.02 GB which isn't much better...
#3300 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> That's still not better
#3301 [21:00] <xales> 1024 = 1GB
#3302 [21:00] <Cryptokid> lol
#3303 [21:00] <xales> err GiB
#3304 [21:00] <xales> anyway
#3305 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> You'll probably need to download the .jar, execute it with decreased RAM arguments
#3306 [21:00] * xales goes afk
#3306 [21:00] <mib_ib60cz> ok can i get a little help with creatingthe server? im not exactly sure where to gt the stuff to do it
#3307 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> mib_ib60cz - For creative or beta?
#3308 [21:01] <checkzor> I DID IT
#3309 [21:01] <checkzor> i got screen down
#3310 [21:01] <mib_ib60cz> um. beta i think cuz i have premium account
#3311 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> You think?
#3312 [21:01] <checkzor> made a sigle session, opened 2 windows
#3313 [21:01] <checkzor> 1 runs teamspeak 1 runs minecraft
#3314 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> mib_ib60cz - What's your minecraft username?
#3315 [21:01] <Cryptokid> my bukkit cmd said i didn't have enough ram, but i have like 6 gigs and it ran fine anyway
#3316 [21:01] <Cryptokid> andway
#3317 [21:01] <mib_ib60cz> Opakh is my username
#3318 [21:01] <Gregor> Does anybody know the code for blue dye?
#3319 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> !paid
#3320 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> !paid Opakh
#3321 [21:01] <Cryptokid> try connecting again xales?
#3322 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Gregor - You can't spawn colored blocks in vanilla minecraft server
#3323 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> It's a subvalue that can't be currently accessed in vanilla
#3324 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> !paid Opakh
#3325 [21:02] <Gregor> GreyVulpine What about just the dye? Or the Lazure ore?
#3326 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you've definitely paid.
#3327 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Gregor - Then http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#3328 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Decimal values
#3329 [21:03] <mib_ib60cz> ok then so for beta where to i go to download the stuff for a server?
#3330 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_ib60cz - You'll want to grab the server download from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3331 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
#3332 [21:03] <checkzor> am I paid :P
#3333 [21:03] <Gregor> GreyVulpine: thnx, and sorry for being a noob
#3334 [21:03] <mib_ib60cz> thxa bunch grey
#3335 [21:03] <checkzor> !paid Opakh
#3336 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> No need to apologize, this is the help channel
#3337 [21:04] <checkzor> !paid checkzor
#3338 [21:04] <checkzor> oh type chadface
#3339 [21:04] <checkzor> thats my minecraft account lol
#3340 [21:04] <checkzor> !paid chadface
#3341 [21:04] <checkzor> good
#3342 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> isuperior - Do you know how to launch the .jar file?
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#3344 [21:04] <checkzor> java -Xmx2560M -Xms2560M -jar craftbukkit-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar nogui
#3345 [21:04] <checkzor> oh wait thats for bukkit
#3346 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#3347 [21:05] <Noctusxx> Does anyone have any suggestions for blackscreen crashes during gameplay?
#3348 [21:05] <checkzor> My dream is that notch rewrites the server in c++ and makes map saving more efficient :(
#3349 [21:06] <checkzor> everyone tells me it takes a crap on solid state drives
#3350 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> checkzor - One, Notch doesn't know C++, two, try pulling notch away from beta development.. you'll get everybody up in arms
#3351 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> "Notch doesn't spend enough time developing! He's too busy goofing off!"
#3352 [21:06] <xolotl> The map file format *will* be changing though.
#3353 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> That it will
#3354 [21:06] <checkzor> YAY
#3355 [21:06] <SkiingPenguins> im glad
#3356 [21:06] <isuperior> GreyVulpine I tried, my Java was outdated so I'm updating it
#3357 [21:07] <checkzor> i'm sure he could afford to hire a c++ coder to port it
#3358 [21:07] <SkiingPenguins> but then you'd have java and c++
#3359 [21:07] <mib_ib60cz> ok now i have downloaded the server and everythinghow do i log into it in game?
#3360 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_ib60cz - Launch the server, connect with the client via 127.0.0.1
#3361 [21:07] <checkzor> skiingpenguins thats no problem
#3362 [21:08] <checkzor> server and client don't have to be written in the same language
#3363 [21:08] <mib_ib60cz> it said it was a bad login when i tried connecting
#3364 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_ib60cz - Did you use the correct login?
#3365 [21:08] <Gregor> GreyVulpine: I'm sorry for being a noob again, but how do I spawn dye? It apears to be decimal 4, but I'm not really sure what that means
#3366 [21:08] <mib_ib60cz> yes
#3367 [21:09] <mib_ib60cz> thatIP address you gave me
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#3369 [21:09] <checkzor> ./give gregor 04 64
#3370 [21:09] <help> ug my minecraft isn't working
#3371 [21:09] <checkzor> or if your doing it from the command line
#3372 [21:09] <checkzor> give gregor 0464
#3373 [21:09] <checkzor> err give gregor 04 64
#3374 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> ID 4 isn't dye
#3375 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> it's stone
#3376 [21:10] <SkiingPenguins> o_o
#3377 [21:10] <checkzor> oh well he said it was 4 lol
#3378 [21:10] <potatoes> can some one help me with my minecraft?
#3379 [21:10] <Gregor> That's cobblestone
#3380 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_ib60cz - I mean, did you log into minecraft correctly?
#3381 [21:11] <potatoes> when i log in it says loaded ,but there is a space still left in the bar then it freezes
#3382 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> potatoes - What operating system are you on?
#3383 [21:11] <potatoes> lava
#3384 [21:11] <potatoes> *java
#3385 [21:11] <mib_ib60cz> definatly
#3386 [21:11] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3386 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Java is not an operating system.
#3387 [21:11] <potatoes> oops
#3388 [21:11] <Kaito> potatoes: Windows, Mac, or Linux
#3389 [21:11] <Kaito> :P
#3390 [21:11] <potatoes> windows
#3391 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Gregor - You can spawn the blocks needed to make dye, and craft it yourself
#3392 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> potatoes - Please go to your start menu, go to either the search bar or the run command, type in: %appdata%
#3393 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Go find the .minecraft folder, go inside it, delete everything but your saves folder
#3394 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch minecraft
#3395 [21:12] <Gregor> GrayVulpine: Okay, I'll try that
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#3397 [21:13] <SkiingPenguins> so is there a bukkit irc?
#3398 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes, #bukkit
#3399 [21:13] <mib_ib60cz> AH HA!! i got it! had to restart client >.>
#3400 [21:13] <checkzor> wow teamspeak 3 server takes up only 10 mb of ram
#3401 [21:13] <checkzor> nice!
#3402 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Have I missed anyone, there's quite a few of you needing help right now
#3403 [21:14] <checkzor> nope
#3404 [21:14] <XaoMoaX> Yup
#3405 [21:14] <checkzor> yup
#3406 [21:14] <checkzor> lol
#3407 [21:14] <XaoMoaX> Me with my minecart situation
#3408 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> XaoMoaX - What about it?
#3409 [21:14] <checkzor> you need tracks :p
#3410 [21:14] <checkzor> I kid
#3411 [21:14] <mib_ib60cz> ok so now that my server is set up and im logged into it how do i set up such modes as survival mode and how do i get my friend to log onto it
#3412 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_ib60cz - It's already in survival mode, and you'll need to port forward in order for your friend to connect
#3413 [21:15] <XaoMoaX> I have tracks
#3414 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> XaoMoaX - What is the problem with your minecarts?
#3415 [21:16] <XaoMoaX> I have 3 minecarts, one powered, in front of that I have a storage, than mine to carry me
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#3418 [21:16] <XaoMoaX> it zooms down the tracks alright, but at the end, crashes into the wall and boom, the carts vanish
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#3420 [21:16] <XaoMoaX> How do I make it not smash into the wall?
#3421 [21:16] <Kaito> have a block without track on it before the wall?
#3422 [21:16] <checkzor> a slight upwards ramp going up
#3423 [21:17] <potatoes> ty
#3424 [21:17] <Kaito> upwards ramp going up?
#3425 [21:17] <Kaito> :P
#3426 [21:17] <checkzor> oh you mean they fall off the tracks>
#3427 [21:17] <checkzor> shhh
#3428 [21:17] <SkiingPenguins> stop setting the tracks before you get to the wall
#3429 [21:17] <checkzor> I'm tired
#3430 [21:17] <isuperior> GreyVulpine I updated my Java, now how do I run the .jar with decreased RAM like you said?
#3431 [21:17] <SkiingPenguins> INCREASED ram i believe
#3432 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> isuperior - go to http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3433 [21:17] <mib_ib60cz> oh ok then. seems like an awefully big island for survival mode
#3434 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> SkiingPenguin - Decreased
#3435 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> He's only got a gig of ram on the system
#3436 [21:17] <SkiingPenguins> d'oh
#3437 [21:17] <checkzor> java -Xmx2560M -Xms2560M -jar craftbukkit-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar nogui change the 2560 to like 512 and the craftbukkit think to minecraft server
#3438 [21:17] <mib_ib60cz> and exactly how do i port forward to enable my friend to play
#3439 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft.exe alone, launches with at least 512M in the argument
#3440 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> If you don't have that much free ram, minecraft doesn't launch
#3441 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_ib60cz - All depends on your setup, what router you have, what operating system you have
#3442 [21:18] <isuperior> I downloaded the .jar, but it still isn't running
#3443 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> isuperior - http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp - there, you'll find the .jar
#3444 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to launch it via a batch file, or command line
#3445 [21:19] <mib_ib60cz> windows linksys router
#3446 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> The example is also beneath the .jar, you'll want to run it with -Xms256M -Xmx256M
#3447 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_ib60cz - Let's take this to PM
#3448 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> That okay?
#3449 [21:19] <mib_ib60cz> absolutely
#3450 [21:20] <XaoMoaX> I've set it up to stop before it gets to a wall
#3451 [21:21] <SkiingPenguins> good
#3452 [21:21] <XaoMoaX> They seem to still fall off track
#3453 [21:21] <XaoMoaX> they go uphill quite a ways until they hit level ground
#3454 [21:22] <SkiingPenguins> this is what i do: _______ | _ being track and | being wall
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#3456 [21:27] <XaoMoaX> So make a loong section w/out track, then a wall?
#3457 [21:29] <XaoMoaX> It took me a moment to realize I don't open the power cart, I just use coal on it
#3458 [21:29] <XaoMoaX> I almost missed my ride lol
#3459 [21:29] <XaoMoaX> Nothing like chasing down the cart you should be riding in
#3460 [21:31] <SkiingPenguins> i know how that feels
#3461 [21:32] <ArmEagle> ehe yeah
#3462 [21:37] <XaoMoaX> ...I have no shame, I admit my fail readily
#3463 [21:38] <XaoMoaX> Second question
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#3465 [21:38] <XaoMoaX> best way to get them back down the track?
#3466 [21:39] <XaoMoaX> just shoving?
#3467 [21:39] <XaoMoaX> Or is there another?
#3468 [21:41] <keret> is there way to get back a world that
#3469 [21:41] <keret> randomly dissapeared?
#3470 [21:42] <XaoMoaX> I lost a cart, and you lost a whole world?
#3471 [21:42] <XaoMoaX> I think I've been topped gentlemen
#3472 [21:42] <keret> lol
#3473 [21:43] <SkiingPenguins> keret is it no longer in your world list?
#3474 [21:43] <keret> it looks like i deleated it, but i didn't
#3475 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> keret - What do you mean "randomly disappeared"?
#3476 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Did the computer shut off in the middle of having the world loaded/
#3477 [21:44] <keret> my computer shut off while i was playing
#3478 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> That would do it
#3479 [21:44] <keret> is it gone forever?
#3480 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> No.
#3481 [21:44] <keret> is there a way to recover it?
#3482 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> One sec
#3483 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Do you know where your .minecraft/saves folder is?
#3484 [21:45] <keret> no, im not good with computers
#3485 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Okay um.
#3486 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#3487 [21:45] <keret> pc
#3488 [21:45] <Zemedelphos> Windows location is
#3489 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Windows? Mac? Linux?
#3490 [21:46] <keret> windows
#3491 [21:46] <Zemedelphos> c:\users\(name)\appdata\roaming
#3492 [21:46] <Zemedelphos> appdata is a hidden folder
#3493 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Which version of windows?
#3494 [21:46] <Zemedelphos> so you need to manually type that part in.
#3495 [21:46] <keret> the latest
#3496 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> 7?
#3497 [21:46] <keret> yea
#3498 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Okay. Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#3499 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> From there, look for the .minecraft folder, might be inside the roaming folder
#3500 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Go into the saves folder.
#3501 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Which world is it?
#3502 [21:47] <keret> 2, so click on the world 2 folder?
#3503 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3504 [21:47] <keret> done
#3505 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> In there, do you see level.dat and level.dat_old?
#3506 [21:48] <keret> yes
#3507 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> rename level.dat to level.bak, then level.dat_old back to level.dat
#3508 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch minecraft, see if that makes it appear, if not, we'll have to move onto something else
#3509 [21:50] <keret> ok one sec
#3510 [21:51] <keret> no, didn't work
#3511 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Okay, go back to your %appdata%/.minecraft/saves folder, change the names back
#3512 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> level.dat to level.dat_old, level.bak to level.dat
#3513 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Then you're going to need to download MCedit. Link is here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
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#3515 [21:55] <keret> ok
#3516 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Have you installed it?
#3517 [21:56] <keret> the first one?
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#3519 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> MCedit
#3520 [21:59] <keret> eya
#3521 [21:59] <keret> yea*
#3522 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Launch MCedit, open up the world that doesn't work
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#3524 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Press Ctrl+S to save it, alt-f4 to close down MCedit
#3525 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Then relaunch minecraft
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#3528 [22:04] <zenon> Hey this is keret my comp. is gonig funky
#3529 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Heh, okay..
#3530 [22:04] <ItsCriminal> morning all
#3531 [22:04] <zenon> ill figure out myself
#3532 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> G'morning gov'na
#3533 [22:05] <zenon> but thank you for the help
#3534 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> zenon - Did the world work?
#3535 [22:05] <zenon> my computer froze while searching the program for viruses.....
#3536 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Oh.. okay.
#3537 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Well, opening the world in MCedit, then resaving it should work.
#3538 [22:06] <zenon> ok ill try later
#3539 [22:06] <zenon> thanks for the help
#3540 [22:06] <ItsCriminal> if i use the command "save-all" and restart the server cos of some server problems, is it normal that i loose some items and have otheronce back in my inventar?
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#3544 [22:21] <isuperior> GreyVulpine I have the .jar file but I don't know how to add the lines it tells me to
#3545 [22:21] <XaoMoaX> oh! one last question, how do I get squids in my own manmade pool/lake?
#3546 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> isuperior - Do you know how to use the command prompt?
#3547 [22:22] <isuperior> I know basics, but I can't figure out how to run the .jar file in it
#3548 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Can you go into the command prompt, navigate to the folder where you have the .jar
#3549 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Then use:
#3550 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#3551 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> to launch it
#3552 [22:23] <isuperior> oh, thanks, it launched!
#3553 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Great
#3554 [22:24] <checkzor> Man my Linux-fu is nearly a black belt
#3555 [22:25] <checkzor> ok now really...
#3556 [22:25] <checkzor> not*
#3557 [22:25] <checkzor> but still
#3558 [22:25] <checkzor> I'm getting better
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#3560 [22:33] <XaoMoaX> Squids? Is it possible to have them in a local manmade pond or well?
#3561 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> XaoMoaX - Can't tell you... um, check the wiki?
#3562 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Squid
#3563 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Squid are found in water of any depth in any location, and drop ink sacs when killed
#3564 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft doesn't really make a distinction between natural and man-made ponds
#3565 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> You can fish in a pool of water you made for a fountain, for example.
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#3567 [22:36] <XaoMoaX> I've dug a small little pool, an unending water one, I just see no squid in it
#3568 [22:37] <XaoMoaX> So I wondered
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#3570 [22:38] <MediocreDan> Ahoy, helpers and helpees! I have a problem that I think... I may have just fixed... darn...
#3571 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Heh, congrats
#3572 [22:41] <MediocreDan> Thanks... I have two computers, one that has internet connectivity; the other does... the dilemma is that my internet-connected computer plays the game badly, and my non-connected computer plays it Perfectly. x.x;
#3573 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Interesting....
#3574 [22:41] <MediocreDan> and the computer that can't connect is a desktop, so Ican't directly connect it to the router...
#3575 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> So, what is your internet-connected computer? another desktop?
#3576 [22:43] <MediocreDan> it's a laptop, and I have a flashdrive to transfer files..
#3577 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> And why can't you connect your desktop to the router? Too far?
#3578 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Also, how are you connecting the laptop to the router, wireless?/
#3579 [22:44] <MediocreDan> Laptop's wireless, desktop doesn't have a working wireless card.
#3580 [22:44] <MediocreDan> darn Netgear and their cheap antennas... lol
#3581 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> I see, I might have a solution for you then. Laptop gets internet wirelessly, your laptop still has an ethernet port, correct?
#3582 [22:44] <MediocreDan> Yes.
#3583 [22:45] <MediocreDan> ... o_o I see where you're going with this and I like it...
#3584 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Connect your laptop to your desktop, set up internet connection sharing.
#3585 [22:45] <MediocreDan> why... didn't I think of this? you're a genius.
#3586 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Boom, instant "router" for your computer
#3587 [22:45] <AndrewPH> oh god i must do this now
#3588 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> (also, it's what I do)
#3589 [22:45] <MediocreDan> I'm going to try. O_o;
#3590 [22:45] <MediocreDan> Be right back.
#3591 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> let me know if there's anything I can help you with concerning that.
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#3593 [22:47] <haexil> hello?
#3594 [22:47] <xales> hello
#3595 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Okay.. more of an Access point than a router..
#3596 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3597 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Dang network terminology
#3598 [22:48] <MediocreDan> can't find my Ethernet cord.. x_x; lol
#3599 [22:48] <haexil> Minecraft will not load anything but a black screen...what can i do?
#3600 [22:48] * GreyVulpine laughs
#3600 [22:48] <MediocreDan> eh, router, access point, same diff.
#3601 [22:48] <xales> haexil: Has it always done this?
#3602 [22:49] <haexil> yes
#3603 [22:49] <haexil> i have never been able to play
#3604 [22:49] <xales> You are trying to play Beta, correct?
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#3606 [22:49] <haexil> both beta and clasic
#3607 [22:49] <guest332> do i have to buy minecraft to play it?
#3608 [22:49] <xales> guest332: You have to buy Beta to play Beta/Survival
#3609 [22:50] <xales> Classic is available on minecraft.net, and is free
#3610 [22:50] <xales> haexil: What are the specs of your computer?
#3611 [22:50] <guest332> i downloaded it but it has a login, and when i created a account it said i'm not premium. so i downloaded the wrong one?
#3612 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> guest332 - Did you pay for an account?
#3613 [22:50] <haexil> win7 pro, 4gb ram, intel core2 duo t5750
#3614 [22:51] <guest332> no
#3615 [22:51] <xales> guest332: The download version is Beta, which is not free
#3616 [22:51] <xales> haexil: Graphics card?
#3617 [22:51] <guest332> ok, where is the classic version that you mentioned was free
#3618 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> guest332 - It's on the website, minecraft.net
#3619 [22:51] <haexil> mobile intel 965 express chipset
#3620 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> guest332 - Where it says:
#3621 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Play Minecraft Classic (Outdated, but free):
#3622 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Single player | Multi player
#3623 [22:52] <xales> haexil: Download the latest video drivers for it, from Intel
#3624 [22:52] <haexil> could it be the 2 "base system devices" i cant find drivers for?
#3625 [22:52] <guest332> oh i see, so the free one is only a java applet?
#3626 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes guest332, there's no downloadable client for classic
#3627 [22:53] <xales> haexil: Possible, but unlikely. What point do you get the black screen - before, or after, logging in?
#3628 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> And minecraft is coded in java, everything's a java app for minecraft.
#3629 [22:53] <XaoMoaX> but honestly buying the beta is very worth it.
#3630 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is XaoMoaX.
#3631 [22:53] <MediocreDan> Buying the beta is AMAZING. 20.71USD. Good buy.
#3632 [22:54] <XaoMoaX> I've owned it for about 2 weeks now, and it's awesome
#3633 [22:54] <haexil> after, in browser it goes black after "switching applet" and in download beta it goes black after completing update
#3634 [22:54] <xales> haexil: That sounds like a problem with graphics, then
#3635 [22:54] <guest332> i'll check it out, thanks
#3636 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> haexil - shot in the dark, you're not running aero, right?
#3637 [22:55] <haexil> aero?
#3638 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> It's a windows 7 theme.
#3639 [22:56] <haexil> ummm.... how would i check?
#3640 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Gah, I don't know, don't run 7 myself.
#3641 [22:56] <xales> GreyVulpine: Look at the borders of the windows
#3642 [22:56] <xales> if they are transparent
#3643 [22:56] <xales> :>
#3644 [22:57] <haexil> no, i think i am using a modified win7 basic theme
#3645 [22:57] <xales> GreyVulpine: Where were you going with that?
#3646 [22:57] <haexil> yeah modified windows 7 basic
#3647 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Okay, never mind then. I've had one person on here, a long time ago, who solved his black screen problem by turning off aero in 7
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#3649 [22:58] <xales> haexil: Try updating the drivers is really all I can think of
#3650 [22:58] <Digitalicious> Hello?
#3651 [22:58] <xales> the Intel GMAs are pretty bad
#3652 [22:58] <xales> Digitalicious: Hello
#3653 [22:58] <Digitalicious> Hello Xales. And how is everyone this fine evening (probably shitty if you're in the Midwest).
#3654 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> bleh.
#3655 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> So windy and blowing snow right now in the midwest
#3656 [22:59] <Kealper> i've just been staring out my window watching the snow pile up
#3657 [22:59] <Digitalicious> NWOhio is literally being shat on... =/
#3658 [22:59] <xales> Pretty calm weather-wise right now, but its supposed to be very icy tomorrow :<
#3659 [22:59] <xales> Kealper: just wait for the power to go out >:D
#3660 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> I hope lake-effect isn't going to cake michigan in more snow.
#3661 [22:59] <Kealper> xales: i'm prepared for that lol
#3662 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> At least it's not blowing over the lakes
#3663 [22:59] <xales> Kealper: A UPS won't save your internet connection
#3664 [22:59] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: yeah, that would suck so hard, but i don't think it will
#3665 [23:00] <Digitalicious> Lake-effect: The Michigan style fuck-you.
#3666 [23:00] <Kealper> xales: yeah, but it will save the data on my crap from corruping
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#3668 [23:00] <Digitalicious> So, I've got a pretty open-ended question for anyone and everyone...
#3669 [23:00] <Kealper> it's supposed to be like 15 inches of snow without lake effect....if this system was coming off lake huron i'd be screwed
#3670 [23:01] <Digitalicious> Concerning MC...
#3671 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Digitalicious - Shoot.
#3672 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> I'm supposed to get something like 8-12 inches on my side of the state.
#3673 [23:01] <Digitalicious> So, y' know... I went out and bought server space with an MC Server host, and what-not. Web space. Built the website, forum. All on a whim with no outside influence or collaborators... =/
#3674 [23:01] <aetherian> slashback
#3675 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Alright...
#3676 [23:02] <DopeGhoti> sounds more like a narrative than a question so far
#3677 [23:02] <Digitalicious> And I've gotten in completely over my head. I have no idea how to run a server, install plugins... Uh... Do anything really...
#3678 [23:02] <xales> Digitalicious: If it is just webspace, you won't be able to run a server
#3679 [23:02] <Digitalicious> Oh no, it's the whole kitten-kabootle... Or whatever... Everything.
#3680 [23:02] <Digitalicious> http://minelime.com
#3681 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Heh, that's a nice way of putting it
#3682 [23:03] <DopeGhoti> "kit and caboodle", for the record.
#3683 [23:03] <xales> Digitalicious: They should have a control-panel or something.
#3684 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Basically, do you want to run the server by itself? or do you want to run a modded server?
#3685 [23:03] <Digitalicious> I'd like some mods. Just a basic protection and permissions mods to ensure everything runs smoothly.
#3686 [23:04] <Digitalicious> Found the plugins I need. No idea how to install them, configure them...
#3687 [23:04] <Digitalicious> * is very much so an idiot.
#3688 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Right now, the only server mod that's close to finishing is bukkit, and they update constantly.
#3689 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> They're also not done.
#3690 [23:04] <DopeGhoti> or supported.
#3691 [23:04] <xales> The way you install/run mods depends on the server host
#3692 [23:04] <Digitalicious> Bukkit is installed and configured on my host... They did it for me...
#3693 [23:04] <xales> Usually, they have some sort of control-panel or similar software
#3694 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Oh, it is?
#3695 [23:04] <Digitalicious> Oh, they do. With limited options...
#3696 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> What else have they installed on your server? Just plain bukkit?
#3697 [23:05] <Digitalicious> Yep. Haven't touched anything. Made an attempt to install the protection mod. Precious Stones...
#3698 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Do you have Essentials?
#3699 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/gen-essentials-v132-basics-kits-homes-mail-permissions-support.1262/page-23
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#3701 [23:06] <Digitalicious> But... My idiocy can't get it working. My hope was to build a solid brand that might attract some decent talent that could help... But garnering interest in a Minecraft Server is a game of Roulette... =/
#3702 [23:07] <Digitalicious> Even if went and downloaded that... I wouldn't know how to install it. So that brings me, full circle, to the question. Anyone wanna'... Sit down with me and help out?
#3703 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Yeah... the big three plugins for bukkit right now are.. essentials for the basic commands like /give,/tp, and such
#3704 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> permissions.. http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admn-info-permissions-v2-0-revolutionizing-the-group-system.1403/
#3705 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> for the basic permissions, set up so you can restrict certain commands.
#3706 [23:07] <Digitalicious> I also have no idea how to work with YML. =/
#3707 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> And WorldGuard/WorldEdit
#3708 [23:08] <Digitalicious> XML, I can do...
#3709 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, all of these plugins, we can't really provide support for, I don't think many of us know how to set up a bukkit server at the moment.
#3710 [23:08] <Digitalicious> Shite. =/
#3711 [23:08] <Digitalicious> Well... Did you like the website at least?
#3712 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to join #bukkit if you require assistance in setting up bukkit, or for more advanced help
#3713 [23:09] <Digitalicious> Help is putting it lightly... I need a tutor. =/
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#3715 [23:09] <Digitalicious> But thank you. I will try harassing the folks over at #bukkit.
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#3717 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing.
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#3719 [23:10] * Cyberstorm waves to GreyVulpine
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#3720 [23:10] <Digitalicious> Did you uh.... Look at the website. :)
#3721 [23:10] * GreyVulpine waves
#3721 [23:10] <Digitalicious> ?
#3722 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Digitalicious - What website?
#3723 [23:10] <Digitalicious> =/ minelime.com
#3724 [23:10] * Cyberstorm is (so far) successfully running and server and wonders if he's of any help
#3724 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> Oh hey, Cyberstorm knows how to set up a bukkit server, right?
#3725 [23:11] <Cyberstorm> Yes, using one currently.
#3726 [23:11] <Digitalicious> It's the server site I set up. Community. Logo. Brand... That all... Very easy.
#3727 [23:11] <Digitalicious> MC Server... Not so much
#3728 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> Would you be willing to help Digitalicious start from scratch?
#3729 [23:11] <Digitalicious> Also putting it lightly. Would you be willing to help Digitalicious not be such a moron, would be a better way to put it.
#3730 [23:12] <haexil> hmmm, updated vid drivers... but now it just crashes after upload
#3731 [23:12] <Digitalicious> I don't want to put anyone at odds. If someone had the time, it'd be great.
#3732 [23:13] <haexil> gmt is 4:13
#3733 [23:14] <Digitalicious> Thank you?
#3734 [23:14] <MediocreDan> Alright, got my cord... now to ... figure out how to do this >>;
#3735 [23:14] <haexil> lol
#3736 [23:14] <haexil> but yeah, any ideas now?
#3737 [23:15] <Digitalicious> Am I missing things in the IRC here?
#3738 [23:15] <haexil> updated video drivers cause minecraft.exe to crash
#3739 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3740 [23:15] <Digitalicious> It seemed like Mibbit was giving me odd fragments of conversation.
#3741 [23:16] <haexil> from MediocreDan?
#3742 [23:16] <Digitalicious> Eh, nevermind. Must just be quiet.
#3743 [23:16] <haexil> he was looking for an ethernet cord earlier
#3744 [23:16] <MediocreDan> wait wha? Yeah, I got my ethernet cord.. it's awesome
#3745 [23:17] <xales> haexil: It crashes?
#3746 [23:17] <MediocreDan> I should probably go google how to set it up, but uh..<<; before I do that, GreyVulpine, I seem to remember you saying that you connect this way. o-o would you be willing to explain how?
#3747 [23:17] <haexil> yes
#3748 [23:17] <Digitalicious> It's what you get for going ATI
#3749 [23:17] <xales> haexil: Is there a crash report?
#3750 [23:17] <Cyberstorm> Erf, sorry,w as AFK a sec
#3751 [23:17] <haexil> how would i check?
#3752 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - Sure. Could you tell me what OSes you're running?
#3753 [23:17] <xales> haexil: In the folder with minecraft.exe, there should be text files
#3754 [23:17] <MediocreDan> Both Vista (I know. x_x; Fail. lol)
#3755 [23:17] <Cyberstorm> Also using Win7 now
#3756 [23:17] <xales> possibly on the desktop
#3757 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> No problem
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#3759 [23:18] <Digitalicious> Cyberstorm, did you get GreyVulpine's question earlier?
#3760 [23:18] <Cyberstorm> How to set up a bukkit/minecraft server from scratch?
#3761 [23:18] <Digitalicious> No, actually. My host did that for me. I just need to get the damn plugins working. =/
#3762 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - On the laptop, can you go to your control panel -> network connections.
#3763 [23:18] <Cyberstorm> Do you have bukkit on it yet, firstof all?
#3764 [23:19] <Digitalicious> Bukkit. Check.
#3765 [23:19] <Digitalicious> Yes
#3766 [23:19] <haexil> i cant find a crash report
#3767 [23:19] <Digitalicious> Uh
#3768 [23:19] <Digitalicious> Maybe
#3769 [23:19] <Cyberstorm> CraftBukkit?
#3770 [23:19] <Digitalicious> I believe so.
#3771 [23:19] <MediocreDan> working on it.
#3772 [23:19] <xales> haexil: When you say 'crashed', what specifically do you mean?
#3773 [23:19] <Cyberstorm> Hmm...never noticed if there was a way to test/confirm that
#3774 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - From there, go to "Manage network connections", right click on your wireless connection, go to properties, then sharing. Check the "Allow other users..."
#3775 [23:19] <haexil> it updates, then flashes black and force closes
#3776 [23:20] <Digitalicious> I don't know. Is there a switch that bukkit turns on?
#3777 [23:20] <Digitalicious> Turns bukkit on?
#3778 [23:20] <Digitalicious> A /bukkit on command, of some sort.
#3779 [23:20] <haexil> okay, i found error reports
#3780 [23:20] <Cyberstorm> Well, in the console...do you see it, or is it a remote server?
#3781 [23:20] * Cyberstorm is ON the server.
#3781 [23:21] <Digitalicious> Console. =/
#3782 [23:21] <Digitalicious> Yeah...
#3783 [23:21] <Digitalicious> I can connect to the server. If that's what you mean
#3784 [23:21] <haexil> what do you need to from the error report>
#3785 [23:21] <xales> haexil: The whole thing - put it on http://pastebin.com/
#3786 [23:22] <haexil> want all 4?
#3787 [23:22] <Cyberstorm> Does it say anything in the console that might indicate problems?
#3788 [23:22] <haexil> or just one?
#3789 [23:22] <MediocreDan> alright, so Sharing, then check "Allow other users to connect ... etc", leave Allow other network users to control or disable the shared internet connection," or does that matter?
#3790 [23:22] <xales> just one is fine
#3791 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - Up to you on that second option. Doesn't matter
#3792 [23:23] <Digitalicious> I uh... Console? What console?
#3793 [23:23] <MediocreDan> oh. Alright. Then OK, and my desktop should connect just fine? Or are we not done?
#3794 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - Not done yet, go back to the network connections screen. Right click on your laptop's local area connection, properties
#3795 [23:23] <haexil> xales: alright, posted
#3796 [23:24] <xales> haexil: Need the link it sends you to
#3797 [23:24] <haexil> http://pastebin.com/60Rz7vzJ
#3798 [23:24] <MediocreDan> @GreyVulpine ok
#3799 [23:24] <MediocreDan> lol that didn't work the way I thought it would.. >>;;ahaha
#3800 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - Then, highlight the "Internet protocol Version 4", go to properties.
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#3802 [23:26] <xales> haexil: The crash is in the driver
#3803 [23:26] <xales> haexil: so...I have no idea =\
#3804 [23:26] <MediocreDan> Alright, finally found it... I fell dumb >> lol
#3805 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - Hmm?
#3806 [23:26] <haexil> hmmm.... so the driver caused the crash?
#3807 [23:26] <MediocreDan> ...feel*... ahahaha... Got to IP V4 Properties.
#3808 [23:27] <xales> haexil: Not as much caused, as it occured within it
#3809 [23:27] <haexil> okay
#3810 [23:27] <xales> All I can think to do is post on the Minecraft forum, and see if anyone else has the issue
#3811 [23:27] <xales> it could very well be the card
#3812 [23:27] <haexil> that is a posibility
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#3814 [23:27] <Nolan> Help?
#3815 [23:28] <xales> Nolan: With?
#3816 [23:28] <haexil> thanks for the help
#3817 [23:28] <Nolan> Server
#3818 [23:28] <xales> Nolan: Anything...more specific?
#3819 [23:28] <Nolan> I made a server and did all I think I needed too, then I go to whats my IP.com and I try and use it to connect and it wont work
#3820 [23:29] <xales> Nolan: Did you port forward?
#3821 [23:29] <Nolan> I think so
#3822 [23:29] <Nolan> I used port map
#3823 [23:29] <xales> Do you have a firewall running?
#3824 [23:29] <Nolan> I went to my router and enterted what I thought was right
#3825 [23:30] <xales> What did you enter?
#3826 [23:30] <Nolan> Can I send a link to a screen shot?
#3827 [23:30] <xales> Sure
#3828 [23:30] <MediocreDan> I'm at IP V4 properties.. o.o; What do, GreyVulpine? @_@;
#3829 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - Set up an ip address there, 192.168.0.1, subnet mask of 255.255.255.0
#3830 [23:31] <Nolan> http://cl.ly/0u3g3t2D1l2m1E05320G
#3831 [23:31] <MediocreDan> Alright, got it
#3832 [23:31] <xales> Nolan: That looks right - can you confirm that 192.168.5.6 is your IP?
#3833 [23:31] <xales> *local IP
#3834 [23:31] * aetherian is away: fear... it's
#3834 [23:32] <Nolan> Then this is the other window, http://cl.ly/2O1U0k2W3e1n0O1e1e1m
#3835 [23:32] <Cyberstorm> Erf, sorry Digitalicious, what OS are you hosting from?
#3836 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - Give me a couple minutes here, I gotta look up how I did this..
#3837 [23:32] <MediocreDan> No problem, without you I'd be looking it up >>;; lol
#3838 [23:32] <Digitalicious> CentOS
#3839 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> There was a way to enable the laptop to hand out DHCP addresses to the ethernet adapter, but I can't find that prompt at the moment.
#3840 [23:33] * GreyVulpine hates vista
#3840 [23:33] <Nolan> xales does that window look right as well?
#3841 [23:33] <MediocreDan> I don't blame you XD
#3842 [23:33] <xales> Nolan: Yeah - that should be fine...
#3843 [23:33] <xales> are you running any sort of firewall?
#3844 [23:33] <Nolan> Dont think so, Im on a mac
#3845 [23:33] <MediocreDan> Let's see if my previous wireless adaptor program has an automatic AD-HOC Detector...
#3846 [23:34] <xales> Nolan: I have a hunch as to what the issue is, then
#3847 [23:34] <Nolan> I can connect to my own server via localhost but What IP do I give everyone to connect too
#3848 [23:34] <Nolan> ok
#3849 [23:34] <xales> Nolan: On your router's status page, what IP does it say (for the router)
#3850 [23:35] <Nolan> 192.168.5.1
#3851 [23:36] <xales> There should be another one, not the internal one, but the IP of the router itself
#3852 [23:36] <xales> it wouldn't start with 192.168.5
#3853 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - I think that might be it for setup, connect your laptop to your desktop and see if you can't grab an IP address through the desktop
#3854 [23:36] <Nolan> Oh like if I go to Whatsmyip.com?
#3855 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> "cmd" in the search bar, then "ipconfig /renew"
#3856 [23:36] <Zemedelphos> Nolan: an easy way to find your external IP address would be to use whatsmyip.com
#3857 [23:36] <Zemedelphos> oh, ninja'd
#3858 [23:36] <xales> Nolan: No - specifically on the router
#3859 [23:37] <xales> Zemedelphos: I'm afraid of double NAT because of how high the 192.168.5 is
#3860 [23:37] <Zemedelphos> Is that IP address not the routers?
#3861 [23:37] <MediocreDan> Hmm. Go into "connect to a network", would it show up there?
#3862 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - I don't know. Try going to a command prompt on the desktop, then doing "ipconfig /renew"
#3863 [23:37] <Nolan> OH would I then add to the end of that :25565?
#3864 [23:38] <MediocreDan> hmm... nothing there...
#3865 [23:38] <DopeGhoti> xales: my LAN is 192.168.420/24 and I only have one layer of NAT :p
#3866 [23:39] <xales> .420?
#3867 [23:39] <xales> also, defaults
#3868 [23:39] <xales> :P
#3869 [23:39] <MediocreDan> I'm trying to set up an Ad Hoc.. let's see.. >.>
#3870 [23:39] <xales> Nolan: No
#3871 [23:39] <Nolan> hmm
#3872 [23:39] <xales> Nolan: Try with just the IP address from whatismyip.com
#3873 [23:39] <DopeGhoti> 42.
#3874 [23:39] <MediocreDan> maybe I have to set the AD-HOC up via my laptop...
#3875 [23:39] <xales> DopeGhoti: Aren't you speshul
#3876 [23:40] <MediocreDan> no, that wouldn't make sense; then I'd be disconnecting from the internet I'm using now x.x
#3877 [23:40] <MediocreDan> FFFFF---
#3878 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, one sec MediocreDan
#3879 [23:40] <Zemedelphos> Nolan: Well, if forwarding your port isn't working, you could try using hamachi?
#3880 [23:40] <MediocreDan> alright, still trying to work it out, here.. haha
#3881 [23:40] <Zemedelphos> It's what my friend chooses to use, since he's too lazy to do port forwarding.
#3882 [23:40] <Nolan> hang on
#3883 [23:41] <Nolan> Xales: when I use that IP with the 67. etc it says failed to connect, connection refused
#3884 [23:41] <xales> Nolan: Sounds like double NAT to me ._.
#3885 [23:42] <Nolan> O_O
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#3887 [23:42] <Nolan> huh?
#3888 [23:42] <Nolan> lol
#3889 [23:42] <xales> you could try getting that to work, but Hamachi is easier if it fits what you are hoping to use the server for
#3890 [23:42] <xales> If you are only looking to play with some friends, Hamachi should be a good solution, but if you want it to be a totally public server
#3891 [23:42] <Nolan> What do you mean use the server for?
#3892 [23:42] <xales> then it won't work as well
#3893 [23:42] <Zemedelphos> Private or public hosting.
#3894 [23:43] <Nolan> oh
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#3896 [23:43] <Zemedelphos> Private, being just for a select few
#3897 [23:43] <Zemedelphos> public, being openly public
#3898 [23:43] <Zemedelphos> Hamachi is great for private hosting
#3899 [23:43] <Nolan> Well how many being a few?
#3900 [23:43] <Zemedelphos> Basically, however many friends you have that play.
#3901 [23:43] <Zemedelphos> As opposed to everyone who plays who is looking for an SMP server
#3902 [23:43] <xales> Private meaning you have to specifically grant them access
#3903 [23:43] <xales> If you want to play with 10 people, and grant them all access, then those 10 can play
#3904 [23:43] <Nolan> how would I grant access
#3905 [23:44] <xales> You would have to have them install Hamachi and join your network
#3906 [23:44] <Nolan> oh dear
#3907 [23:44] <Nolan> I just wanna know hwat Im doing wrong
#3908 [23:44] <xales> It isn't anything wrong - it is just the way your network is set up that makes it more difficult
#3909 [23:44] <Nolan> Can we fix it
#3910 [23:44] <Nolan> ?
#3911 [23:45] <xales> It is possible, but not guaranteed to work
#3912 [23:45] <Nolan> ok lets try
#3913 [23:45] <xales> sometimes the reason that it is set up in such a way is also because hosting a server would not be feasible
#3914 [23:45] <xales> but that is rarely the case
#3915 [23:45] <Nolan> I really like the world that was generated lol
#3916 [23:45] <Nolan> on my server
#3917 [23:45] <xales> anyway, to start, what kind of connection are you on? is it your own home network?
#3918 [23:46] <Nolan> Yes
#3919 [23:46] <xales> What kind of connection is it?
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#3921 [23:47] <xales> Is it cable, satellite, dsl, 4g/whatever, etc.
#3922 [23:47] <Nolan> DSL
#3923 [23:48] <xales> Ok, and I assume you are on a wireless connection, correct?
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#3925 [23:48] <Nolan> yes
#3926 [23:48] <MediocreDan> Hmmm... still trying to figure this out... XD might be onto something
#3927 [23:49] <GV> Bah, note to self, even looking at ad hoc disconnects you from network on laptop
#3928 [23:49] <xales> Nolan: Do you know where the wireless router is?
#3929 [23:49] * GV stabs vista
#3929 [23:49] <xales> GV: lolvista
#3930 [23:49] <Nolan> yes
#3931 [23:49] <xales> Nolan: Is that plugged into another router?
#3932 [23:50] <MediocreDan> yeah, vista r suck
#3933 [23:50] <MediocreDan> to the extreme >>
#3934 [23:50] <Nolan> No
#3935 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - Alright, can you try this on the desktop
#3936 [23:50] <xales> Nolan: What is it plugged in to?
#3937 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Go to the network properties for the ethernet/LAN adapter on the desktiop
#3938 [23:50] <Nolan> modem
#3939 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Go to the ip v4 properties
#3940 [23:51] * Shadow386 watches as they deal with un-logicated people
#3940 [23:51] <MediocreDan> looking for it..
#3941 [23:51] <MediocreDan> oh, there.. yeah... hang on XD
#3942 [23:51] <xales> Nolan: Ok, open up Terminal (Applications->Utilities)
#3943 [23:51] <Nolan> kk
#3944 [23:51] <MediocreDan> Alright, i'm in the IP V4 properties.
#3945 [23:51] <xales> Nolan: type in 'tracert google.com'
#3946 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Now, MediocreDan, put in a.. 192.168.0.x address for the desktop, where x isn't 1. Put in 255.255.255.0 for the subnet mask, then 192.168.0.1 for the default gateway
#3947 [23:51] <xales> without the quotes, and then hit enter
#3948 [23:52] <xales> then, copy and paste the first three lines it gives you (and only the first 3), and paste them here
#3949 [23:52] <Nolan> Said tracert tnot found
#3950 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - Press okay, then, launch a browser on the desktop, see if you can't pull any webpages up
#3951 [23:52] <xales> err sorry, its 'traceroute'
#3952 [23:52] <xales> 'traceroute google.com'
#3953 [23:53] <MediocreDan> Unable to connect. xD dangit
#3954 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> You set 192.168.0.1 for the laptop's LAN adapter?
#3955 [23:53] <Nolan> traceroute: Warning: google.com has multiple addresses; using 74.125.155.104
#3956 [23:53] <Nolan> traceroute to google.com (74.125.155.104), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
#3957 [23:53] <Nolan> 1 * * *
#3958 [23:53] <Nolan> 2 192.168.2.1 (192.168.2.1) 2.469 ms 2.409 ms 2.955 ms
#3959 [23:53] <Nolan> 3 or-67-76-150-1.dyn.embarqhsd.net (67.76.150.1) 32.955 ms 33.613 ms 33.304 ms
#3960 [23:54] <xales> ok, yeah, double NAT
#3961 [23:54] <MediocreDan> Yes, I'll recheck it, GreyVulpine
#3962 [23:54] <Nolan> What does that mean?
#3963 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> You have a router in front of a router
#3964 [23:54] <xales> Nolan: Basically, that you have to do two port forwards
#3965 [23:54] <Nolan> ok
#3966 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> The 192.168.2.1 router is forwarding to your 192.168.5.1 router
#3967 [23:54] <xales> You have to forward it from outside to the first router, to the second router, to your computer
#3968 [23:54] <Nolan> o
#3969 [23:54] <Nolan> k
#3970 [23:54] <Nolan> how?
#3971 [23:55] <MediocreDan> woah, that sounds even more confusing than my issue x_x;
#3972 [23:55] <xales> so, you have to find the IP of the first router (the 192.168.5.1 router)
#3973 [23:55] <xales> it should be on the status page
#3974 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - It's actuallt more common than you think
#3975 [23:55] <xales> and should be 192.168.2.x
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#3977 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - We get that issue all the time here.
#3978 [23:55] <MediocreDan> Huh.. almost seems like a Networking help chat instead of a MC help chat, right now.. lol
#3979 [23:55] <Nolan> ok on my router page I have 192.168.5.1
#3980 [23:56] <xales> Nolan: Is there any other address listed?
#3981 [23:56] <xales> it should be on the status page
#3982 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - About that laptop?
#3983 [23:56] <Nolan> http://cl.ly/0t1n3e21441a2X0C0V0j
#3984 [23:56] <xales> Nolan: click "more info"
#3985 [23:56] <xales> under IP Address
#3986 [23:57] <xales> see if the 192.168.2.x number is there
#3987 [23:57] <MediocreDan> Alright, laptop shows IPv4 192.168.0.1, desktop shows IPv4 192.168.0.2, Desktop Default Gateway shows 192.168.0.1
#3988 [23:57] <Nolan> thsi is all it gives me: http://cl.ly/1h3U3I1r3t1s3c0f1Z2F
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#3990 [23:58] <Cyberstorm> Trying to set IP on a Mac?
#3991 [23:58] <xales> Nolan: Can you take a screenshot of the whole page it gives you? (from the top of it)
#3992 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> MediocreDan - By any chance, is windows firewall down on the laptop?
#3993 [23:58] <xales> Cyberstorm: Nope, double NAT
#3994 [23:59] <MediocreDan> No, should I turn it off?
#3995 [23:59] <Nolan> of that popout?
#3996 [23:59] <Cyberstorm> Ouch, that would be extra annoying.
#3997 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Please do MediocreDan
#3998 [23:59] <Cyberstorm> I'm behind one NAT
#3999 [23:59] <xales> Nolan: No - of the page where you clicked 'More Info'
#4000 [23:59] <MediocreDan> heh.. windows firewall ruins games alot >> hang on
#4001 [23:59] <Nolan> http://cl.ly/3j1c0O3u1C2d170N3v3h