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#4 [00:12] <fisken> hey, uh, how do i find make a server?
#5 [00:12] <Coyotebongwater> I cant connect now.
#6 [00:12] <fisken> ignore 'make'
#7 [00:12] <xales> Coyotebongwater: what IP are you trying to use?
#8 [00:12] <xales> fisken: for Beta, or Classic?
#9 [00:12] <Coyotebongwater> My own.
#10 [00:13] <xales> Coyotebongwater: Try using 127.0.0.1
#11 [00:13] <fisken> xales: beta
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#13 [00:15] <Coyotebongwater> Do I just have my friends use that if i want them to join?
#14 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> No
#15 [00:15] <fisken> xales: nevermind actually, that was easier than i thought
#16 [00:16] <xales> Coyotebongwater: You have to set up port-forwarding for that
#17 [00:16] <Coyotebongwater> How do I do that?
#18 [00:17] <fisken> i have another question, is there an easy way of revisiting major things i did on certain parts of a world?
#19 [00:17] <xales> What model of router do you have?
#20 [00:17] <xales> fisken: What do you mean?
#21 [00:17] <fisken> Coyotebongwater: open port 22 on your router
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#23 [00:17] <fisken> Coyotebongwater: and have your router send incoming requests to your private ip
#24 [00:18] <Coyotebongwater> How do I do that?
#25 [00:18] <fisken> xales: like, i have a saved world, and i have something significant on part of the map, but i can't find it anymore or something
#26 [00:18] <Coyotebongwater> And its wireless.
#27 [00:19] <xales> fisken: Use a map editor
#28 [00:19] <xales> GreyVulpine: Your turn
#29 [00:19] <Coyotebongwater> Isnt Vulpine a pokemon?
#30 [00:19] <xales> Coyotebongwater: one sec
#31 [00:19] <relsqui> no, vulpine is the real word
#32 [00:19] <relsqui> vulpix is the pokemon
#33 [00:19] <fisken> Coyotebongwater: well depending on your router, you'll type your routers default ip into your browser, most likely it will be 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 or something
#34 [00:20] <Coyotebongwater> K.
#35 [00:20] <xales> Vulpine means "resembling the characteristics of a fox"
#36 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#37 [00:20] <Coyotebongwater> Oh.
#38 [00:20] <xales> err...well, close enough
#39 [00:20] <Coyotebongwater> Im thinking of Vulpix.
#40 [00:20] <xales> GreyVulpine: Help Coyotebongwater do port-forwarding :)
#41 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez, okay
#42 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Can it wait just a few minutes, I'm in a game
#43 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Or actually, screw it, my team's winning
#44 [00:21] <relsqui> XD
#45 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Coyotebongwater - What operating system are you on?
#46 [00:21] <Coyotebongwater> Windows 7.
#47 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Start -> type in the search bar: cmd
#48 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> At the command prompt, type in: ipconfig
#49 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> let me know what your ipv4 address and default gateway address is
#50 [00:22] <fisken> xales: hey, so i was in a game connected to my server, and the dificulty was set to peaceful, but i was still getting killed by a skeleton. i don't understandddd
#51 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Setting your client to peaceful doesn't affect the server
#52 [00:22] <Coyotebongwater> 192.168.1.103
#53 [00:22] <xales> ninjas. surrounding me.
#54 [00:22] <xales> :<
#55 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> To turn off monsters in your server, you'll need to modify the server.properties
#56 [00:22] <fisken> GreyVulpine: can i change it on the server?
#57 [00:22] <fisken> ohh
#58 [00:22] <xales> fisken: Only if you run the server
#59 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> ^
#60 [00:22] * relsqui is a peaceful player in a normal world, hence doing things like fencing in outdoor cartrails
#60 [00:23] <fisken> alright, thanks guys
#61 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Coyotebongwater - 192.168.1.103 is the ipv4 address? And I assume 192.168.1.1 is the default gateway
#62 [00:23] <Coyotebongwater> Yes.
#63 [00:23] <xales> GreyVulpine: In other news, I'm a #help channel op now, one of only two who aren't opers :O
#64 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Alright, you can close that now, go to your browser and to this address, http://192.168.1.1
#65 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> xales - Neat.
#66 [00:24] <xales> Which is actually a bit strange, because #minecrafthelp has 10x more traffic
#67 [00:24] <relsqui> heh
#68 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> Had somebody earlier, come on to here, just to ask basic IRC questions.
#69 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> How to register channels, aop/vop lists...
#70 [00:25] <Coyotebongwater> Not working.
#71 [00:25] <relsqui> we get that in #xkcd sometimes for the same reason
#72 [00:25] <Coyotebongwater> Its just a blank page for me.
#73 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> Coyotebongwater - Blank.. page?
#74 [00:25] <Coyotebongwater> Yup.
#75 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> For http://192.168.1.1
#76 [00:26] <Coyotebongwater> yes.
#77 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> Are you connected via ethernet or wireless?
#78 [00:26] <Coyotebongwater> Wireless.
#79 [00:26] * GreyVulpine winces.
#79 [00:26] <Coyotebongwater> Gasp!
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#81 [00:27] <Coyotebongwater> Its not my fault!
#82 [00:27] <Coyotebongwater> Im poor!
#83 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Are there any computers on your network that are connected via wire to your router?
#84 [00:27] <Coyotebongwater> No.
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#86 [00:27] <Coyotebongwater> I have an ethernet cable in my room.
#87 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Or can you take an ethernet cable to your router..
#88 [00:27] <Coyotebongwater> Thats hooked up to the router.
#89 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> Can you attach the router directly to the computer via the ethernet cable?
#90 [00:28] <Coyotebongwater> Yeah.
#91 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> Can you do that now?
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#93 [00:29] <Coyotebongwater> I just did.
#94 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> Alright, can you try going back to http://192.168.1.1
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#96 [00:31] <Coyotebongwater> Still nothing.
#97 [00:31] <xales> Try disabling wireless as well
#98 [00:31] <Coyotebongwater> Already did.
#99 [00:32] <relsqui> may be able to google the model of the router and find its default IP or whether it intercepts DNS for a fictitious domain like myhomerouter.com (which I've seen one do and thought was pretty clever)
#100 [00:32] <Coyotebongwater> Lol! K.
#101 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> Coyotebongwater - What is your router's model
#102 [00:32] <Coyotebongwater> Lemme go see.
#103 [00:34] <Coyotebongwater> Linksys.
#104 [00:34] * GreyVulpine boggles
#104 [00:34] <Coyotebongwater> What?
#105 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> I've configured many a linksys router in my day, http://192.168.1.1 should work
#106 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> You're sure you're not connected via wireless?
#107 [00:35] <Coyotebongwater> Im sure. I disconnected.
#108 [00:35] * GreyVulpine ponders...
#108 [00:35] <relsqui> anything weird about the network layout? what's the flow from the wall to you?
#109 [00:35] <Coyotebongwater> Still a white blank page.... And a swelling rage.
#110 [00:35] <relsqui> (feel free to tell me to stfu if I'm getting in the way)
#111 [00:35] <Coyotebongwater> I dont know what that means.
#112 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> Coyotebongwater - What browser are you using?
#113 [00:36] <Coyotebongwater> Firefox.
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#115 [00:36] <xales> Coyotebongwater: Specificlly, what model of Linksys is it?
#116 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> Coyotebongwater - And a window prompt doesn't pop up at all when you go to http://192.168.1.1
#117 [00:36] <relsqui> (by flow I meant, if you trace cables from the wall, to you, passing probably a modem and a router on the way, what's the order and is it interrupted by anything else)
#118 [00:37] <xales> I could be a seriously damn old router that wants you to telnet in, I suppose
#119 [00:37] <Coyotebongwater> relsqui: Nope.
#120 [00:37] <xales> it*
#121 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> Linksys routers have pretty standard setup pages.
#122 [00:37] <Coyotebongwater> Lemme see..... Again.
#123 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> I've used them for quite a long time
#124 [00:38] <Coyotebongwater> Wireless G. 2.4 Ghz. If that helps.
#125 [00:39] <Coyotebongwater> 54mbps.
#126 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm... maybe you enabled https?
#127 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Try https://192.168.1.1
#128 [00:41] <Coyotebongwater> That seems to be doing something.
#129 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Doing.. something?
#130 [00:41] <Coyotebongwater> Now its saying the connection has timed out.
#131 [00:41] <Coyotebongwater> Yeah. Earlier, it wouldnt even try.
#132 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> maybe not then.
#133 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> The only other thing I can tell you to do, is to hard reset the linksys router, because without being able to log into the web interface, you won't be able to set it up
#134 [00:43] <Coyotebongwater> Hmm.
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#136 [00:44] <TruGaming> Hey
#137 [00:45] <TruGaming> Um how come the classic server software wont generate an externalurl.txt ?
#138 [00:46] <xales> TruGaming: Are you sure you are using the Classic server software?
#139 [00:46] <TruGaming> Yes
#140 [00:46] <TruGaming> I bought a VPS
#141 [00:46] <TruGaming> from minecraftvps.net
#142 [00:46] <TruGaming> They told me, there are issues with the server software, and its not generating the externalurl
#143 [00:47] <Coyotebongwater> Ill have to do that in the morning. My GrandPa would get mad at me.
#144 [00:48] <TruGaming> :@
#145 [00:48] <Coyotebongwater> Night Yall.
#146 [00:48] <xales> TruGaming: You should talk to them then
#147 [00:48] <TruGaming> Its not them
#148 [00:48] <DopeGhoti> A new record: 05:46:06 up 132 days, 39 min, 1 user, load average: 874.00, 631.01, 427.01
#149 [00:48] <TruGaming> I have the same issue on my PC, on my other VPS and on my friends PC
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#151 [00:50] <Hermitwise> Minecraft keeps crashing on me
#152 [00:50] <Hermitwise> after a while of playing
#153 [00:50] <TruGaming> Its shit
#154 [00:50] <Hermitwise> I can't seem to figure out why
#155 [00:51] <xales> Hermitwise: Is there a crash report?
#156 [00:51] <Hermitwise> no
#157 [00:51] <Hermitwise> I mean
#158 [00:51] <Hermitwise> I don't know about java
#159 [00:51] <xales> Define 'crash'
#160 [00:51] <Hermitwise> dunno how to check
#161 [00:51] <Hermitwise> ok so basically it blackscreens
#162 [00:51] <Hermitwise> after a while of playing
#163 [00:51] <xales> what are the specs on your computer?
#164 [00:51] <Hermitwise> and then when I log back in my save file is still there but it's partially f'ed up
#165 [00:51] <xales> TruGaming: Oh, that...is an issue with minecraft.net I believe, though it should be gone now
#166 [00:51] <Hermitwise> either the places I mined are reset or the things I just mined are gone
#167 [00:52] <Hermitwise> but never both
#168 [00:52] <Hermitwise> one sec I'll get my specs
#169 [00:53] <TruGaming> notch = fag
#170 [00:54] <Hermitwise> win 7 32bit/amd 64 dual core/ 3 gigs of memory, GTS 450 graphics
#171 [00:54] <Hermitwise> the GTS 450 is new
#172 [00:54] <Hermitwise> and I just did a clean install of windows
#173 [00:54] <relsqui> TruGaming: ... you're using fag as an insult? what are you, 12?
#174 [00:54] <relsqui> or just from the backwoods?
#175 [00:54] <TruGaming> He is a faggot.
#176 [00:54] <Hermitwise> I mean I'm playing with it set to Far
#177 [00:55] <Hermitwise> but I want to keep doing that
#178 [00:55] * xales kicked TruGaming from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: OK)
#179 [00:55] <relsqui> I wouldn't have minded railing at that guy some more but it's probably best not to >_>
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#181 [00:55] <TruGaming> ?
#182 [00:55] <xales> Don't come in here just to act like a 12 year old
#183 [00:56] <Hermitwise> I just don't really know how to test to see what it is
#184 [00:56] <TruGaming> I wasnot
#185 [00:56] <TruGaming> Wasnt*
#186 [00:56] <relsqui> TruGaming: wanna tell me to my face that gay people deserve to be used as insults? :)
#187 [00:56] <xales> 00:53:52 < TruGaming> notch = fag
#188 [00:56] <TruGaming> Fag can also be used as a term for Cigarette
#189 [00:57] <Hermitwise> it actually means a bundle of sticks
#190 [00:57] <Hermitwise> a faggot is a person who collects bundles of sticks
#191 [00:57] <Hermitwise> :D
#192 [00:57] <relsqui> TruGaming: yes, it can. I hope you don't think I'm so ignorant as to believe that's how you intended it.
#193 [00:57] <TruGaming> Definition of Fag: a cigarette, in common with British English. Due to American media influence this term can also refer to a homosexual man.
#194 [00:57] <xales> 00:54:50 < TruGaming> He is a faggot.
#195 [00:57] <Hermitwise> sooo
#196 [00:57] <xales> ok then
#197 [00:57] <xales> still wrong, still an ignorant 12 year old
#198 [00:57] <Hermitwise> u_u
#199 [00:58] <relsqui> TruGaming: that usage is degrading to gay people, and no amount of tittering rhetoric makes that not true
#200 [00:58] <TruGaming> I am from Australia, which descended from Brittan, therefore the conclusion can be drawn that Fag in GB English is a cigarette, I am 17. not 12
#201 [00:58] <relsqui> TruGaming: you can play idiot logic games or you can stfu and talk with some respect for other humans
#202 [00:59] <xales> ^
#203 [00:59] <TruGaming> Telling me to stfu is repectful is it?
#204 [00:59] <TruGaming> respectful*
#205 [00:59] <Hermitwise> sooo
#206 [00:59] <Hermitwise> can I get help ):
#207 [00:59] <relsqui> I'm being disrespectful to you, personally, by choice. you're being disrespectful to a huge class of people you don't know.
#208 [00:59] <xales> Implying you deserve any respect for your behavior
#209 [00:59] <xales> Hermitwise: Did you post your system specs? I may have missed it =/
#210 [00:59] <TruGaming> I was being disrespectful to Notch, as that is who my insult was directed toward
#211 [01:00] <Hermitwise> yeah I did
#212 [01:00] <relsqui> TruGaming: yes, and you chose an insult that's degrading and offensive to tons of other people
#213 [01:00] <TruGaming> Well I'm sorry you feel that way
#214 [01:00] <relsqui> TruGaming: if you want to insult one guy, call him a jackass, I'm not gonna give you shit for that
#215 [01:00] <Hermitwise> win 7 32bit/amd 64 dual core/ 3 gigs of memory, Nvidia GTS 450 graphics card
#216 [01:00] <relsqui> roll my eyes maybe, but whatever, it's your opinion
#217 [01:00] <xales> Hermitwise: Does it not crash if you aren't playin on Far?
#218 [01:00] <Hermitwise> it probably won't
#219 [01:00] <Hermitwise> but I don't get why it does when I put it on far
#220 [01:01] * xales kicked TruGaming from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: I am sorry you are ignorant. This is a help channel.)
#221 [01:01] <Hermitwise> or at least it won't crash as often
#222 [01:01] <xales> I think it is a bug, some people have crashes after playing on Far for a while
#223 [01:01] <Hermitwise> so it's nothing I can do
#224 [01:01] <Hermitwise> that's what I was wondering
#225 [01:02] <xales> nope, I have no idea what causes it
#226 [01:03] <Hermitwise> frick
#227 [01:03] <Hermitwise> I wish they would optimize Minecraft
#228 [01:04] <xales> It actually seems like a possible Java problem to me
#229 [01:04] <xales> because I've only heard people on Windows having the issue
#230 [01:05] <Hermitwise> I don't play in browser
#231 [01:05] <xales> It still is Java
#232 [01:07] * SinZ|Away is away: Đ³ « sıиz ıs ашаy
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#236 [01:35] <DopeGhoti> morning, mib_a3mxew.
#237 [01:35] <mib_a3mxew> and operators/mods on?
#238 [01:35] <xales> Yes
#239 [01:36] <DopeGhoti> Next question?
#240 [01:37] <xales> He is querying with me
#241 [01:37] <mib_a3mxew> thanks guys
#242 [01:37] <mib_a3mxew> night
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#244 [01:37] <xales> It amuses me to no end
#245 [01:37] <xales> the people in #minecraft
#246 [01:38] <xales> who join and get SYSNICKed
#247 [01:38] <xales> :>
#248 [01:38] <xales> SVS*
#249 [01:38] <xales> why do I write SYS
#250 [01:38] <xales> whatever
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#254 [01:44] <DopeGhoti> SVSNICKed?
#255 [01:44] <xales> SVSNICK = services changes your nick
#256 [01:44] <DopeGhoti> ah
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#259 [01:47] <yoshi> uhhhh
#260 [01:48] <yoshi> why is my name yoshi?
#261 [01:48] <xales> probably because Mibbit defaulted to that
#262 [01:48] <yoshi> oh
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#264 [01:48] <Arktis> Aha, here we go.
#265 [01:48] <yoshi> hey guys?
#266 [01:48] <xales> yoshi: ?
#267 [01:48] <yoshi> if u have the crack version with out the code you will get banned or something in minecraft?
#268 [01:49] <Arktis> I have an issue with connecting to others, if anyone's able to help.
#269 [01:49] <mcpower> yoshi, wait, you pirated minecraft?
#270 [01:49] * xales kicked yoshi from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: You don't use the cracked version, because it is illegal.)
#271 [01:49] <ItsCriminal> omg
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#273 [01:49] <yoshi> no i didnt
#274 [01:49] <yoshi> im only 10 yrs old
#275 [01:49] <ItsCriminal> is mine paied ? ^^
#276 [01:50] * xales kicked yoshi from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Don't ask for help playing a game illegally in the official help channel. That isn't very smart. Neither are you)
#277 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Give the kid a break.
#278 [01:50] <xales> I think its a troll, Grey
#279 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay, if you
#280 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> 're sure.
#281 [01:50] <mcpower> IMO he should just be banned for 1 hour
#282 [01:51] <relsqui> GreyVulpine: where I come from, we ban the trolls at least as much as we'd ban the people they're pretending to be :P
#283 [01:51] * Arktis waits patiently.
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#284 [01:51] <yoshi> ok fine im gonna buy it on my birthday may 20 2011 this year my dad said it
#285 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> I understand. but this is #MineCraftHelp, we strive to have a little more patience here.
#286 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> I don't tolerate trolls as much as the next person though.
#287 [01:52] <ItsCriminal> sorry gus
#288 [01:52] <ItsCriminal> *guys
#289 [01:53] <xales> Arktis: What is the issue?
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#291 [01:53] <Keaft> here's an odd question: What protocol does minecraft use when a client connects to a server?
#292 [01:53] <xales> TCP?
#293 [01:53] <mcpower> ok I think yoshi isn't a troll, A) his name seems like a 10 year old, and B) he wouldnt have said that last message.
#294 [01:53] <Keaft> this is going to be stupid but I mean like
#295 [01:53] <Keaft> http:// ftp://
#296 [01:53] <Keaft> but it's not one of those
#297 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> None of those
#298 [01:54] <xales> mcpower: yoshi is a default Mibbit name AFAIK
#299 [01:54] <Keaft> basically I'm trying to "proxy" redirect to a different url from my url using my server
#300 [01:54] <mcpower> oh.
#301 [01:54] <Keaft> and it is having a fit without a protocol
#302 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Keaft - Say what?
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#304 [01:55] <Keaft> what part would you like explained?
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#306 [01:55] <Mine5399> can somebody help me please?
#307 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> With?
#308 [01:56] <Mine5399> when ever i log into any multiplayer server i always get the error connection lost failed to login: bad login
#309 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> Keaft - I don't entirely understand what you're trying to do, set up a proxy for a url?
#310 [01:56] <Keaft> yes
#311 [01:56] <xales> Mine5399: What is your username?
#312 [01:56] <Keaft> I have a server on one url
#313 [01:56] <Keaft> at a remote location
#314 [01:56] <Mine5399> the same as this one
#315 [01:56] <Mine5399> mine5399
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#317 [01:56] <Keaft> I have my own server here at this location
#318 [01:56] <xales> Mine5399: You have to buy the game, to play it. It isn't free
#319 [01:56] <Keaft> I'm trying to make my server redirect to the minecraft server there
#320 [01:57] <Mine5399> i did, about 40 minutes ago through my visa card??
#321 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Keaft - Then it's an issue with setting up a record at your domain name provider to point to the IP of your choice.
#322 [01:57] <xales> Mine5399: Well, it hasn't gone through then
#323 [01:57] <xales> Mine5399: And even so, if you are using a pirated version, you will not be able to play normally without undoing the changes it made to your system
#324 [01:58] <Keaft> I need to keep this url at this location though
#325 [01:58] <Keaft> like
#326 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Do you own the domain name?
#327 [01:58] <Keaft> I host a web and irc server from this location. I just need it to redirect any incommings on port 25565 to a different location
#328 [01:58] <Keaft> yes
#329 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Does your provider let you create subdomains?
#330 [01:58] <Keaft> dyndns
#331 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> mc.domainname.com for example
#332 [01:58] <Keaft> possibly
#333 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Oh.
#334 [01:58] <Mine5399> i got hte client and everything though, is it because i have to portfoward, and this isnt pirated i told u i baught it about an hour ago.
#335 [01:58] <Mine5399> the*
#336 [01:59] <Keaft> I mean I "own" it
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#338 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. no, with dynamicDNS, you can't really do that
#339 [01:59] <xales> Mine5399: No. You can't get the client without having a premium account, and your account is not marked premium.
#340 [01:59] <Keaft> but I doubt I can get a subdomain with them
#341 [01:59] <Keaft> yeah
#342 [01:59] <xales> Therefor, you are or were using the pirated version of the game.
#343 [01:59] <Mine5399> something is wrong then.
#344 [01:59] <Keaft> so I figure I would just use my apache to say hey this is asking for 25565 send them here instead
#345 [02:00] * GreyVulpine shakes
#345 [02:00] <Keaft> like convulsions?
#346 [02:00] <Keaft> is it that bad?
#347 [02:00] <xales> Mine5399: Yes, the thing that is wrong is playing stolen copies of games. See for yourself. http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=mine5399
#348 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft uses port 25565 to communicate to the server, the server takes a random free open port to communicate back
#349 [02:01] * Arktis waits patiently.
#349 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> I mean, what's stopping you from registering a new dyndns account?
#350 [02:01] <xales> Arktis: Go ahead and ask
#351 [02:01] <Arktis> It's an old issue.
#352 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> I know there's only a limit of one free account per name, but you can use a different email address/name
#353 [02:01] <Keaft> user friendliness I guess
#354 [02:02] <Arktis> End of Stream issues. I can't connect to any SMP since I bought the game 3 or 4 months ago.
#355 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I see.
#356 [02:02] <Keaft> forum and irc are already on creativeminds.dyndns.org
#357 [02:02] <xales> Keaft: There isn't really any way to make it do that, unfortunately. Not the way you are looking to do it.
#358 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> ^
#359 [02:02] <xales> Arktis: Did you try reinstalling Minecraft?
#360 [02:02] <xales> !reinstall
#361 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> At this stage, I'd recommend looking at a more permanent DNS solution.
#362 [02:02] <Arktis> Reinstall?
#363 [02:03] <xales> Arktis: Correct
#364 [02:03] <Keaft> heh I'm a freeby kinda man
#365 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Domain name registration is fairly cheap nowadays keaft
#366 [02:03] <Arktis> Ffffffffff...can I save my maps, or do those get to be purged?
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#368 [02:03] <relsqui> heh, holler if someone needs a registrar recommendation; I love mine (and they don't offer any referral benefits that I know of)
#369 [02:03] <MrDodo> i cant connect to my own server
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#371 [02:03] <MrDodo> how
#372 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> 127.0.0.1
#373 [02:03] <xales> Arktis: If you follow the instructions carefully, your maps will be fine. If you are worried, copy the .minecraft folder onto your desktop first
#374 [02:04] <mcpower> What causes lag on my *netbook*? 1GB RAM + 4GB Paging file or a crappy graphics card?
#375 [02:04] <Arktis> Alright.
#376 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> mcpower - Both
#377 [02:04] <relsqui> XD
#378 [02:04] <mcpower> oh.
#379 [02:04] <Keaft> lol!
#380 [02:04] <xENO_> mostly the graphics card
#381 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> mcpower - The fact that it's a netbook, is a minus already
#382 [02:04] <Arktis> I'll be back in a moment.
#383 [02:04] <MrDodo> i have opened ports
#384 [02:04] <mcpower> LOL
#385 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Underpowered CPU, video card, insufficient ram..
#386 [02:04] <xENO_> Any shared memory graphics card perofrms worse than a non-shared one.
#387 [02:04] <xales> MrDodo: Define 'cant connect'
#388 [02:05] <xENO_> Shared memory w/ GeForce 9400 gets crushed by discrete Radeon 9600, for example.
#389 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> MrDodo - Can you connect via 127.0.0.1?
#390 [02:05] <Arktis> There. Let's try that.
#391 [02:05] <MrDodo> ja
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#393 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> MrDodo - Then you need to port forward via your router if you have one
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#395 [02:06] <Arktis> Nope, same issue.
#396 [02:06] <Arktis> Falling forever.
#397 [02:06] <Arktis> No terrain downloads.
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#399 [02:06] <MrDodo> what port
#400 [02:06] <xales> Arktis: Try connecting to smp.shadow-craft.net
#401 [02:06] <MrDodo> 25565?
#402 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes MrDodo
#403 [02:06] <Keaft> Arktis what are the specs on your computer?
#404 [02:06] <xales> see if that works, I know that it is a good server
#405 [02:07] <MrDodo> i did
#406 [02:07] <MrDodo> mm i could try it again i guess..
#407 [02:07] <Arktis> I can connect, and I see people talking.
#408 [02:07] <Arktis> Problem is...
#409 [02:08] <Arktis> I can't talk, I get no terrain downloaded, and I get an EoS error.
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#411 [02:08] <aetherian> heya
#412 [02:08] <Arktis> And yes, I just connected to shadow-craft.
#413 [02:08] <xales> Arktis: Can you play single-player without any issues?
#414 [02:08] <Arktis> Yes.
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#416 [02:08] <aetherian> lol
#417 [02:08] <aetherian> bacon can't speak
#418 [02:08] <Sanek> I'm having a problem with giant bottom-less holes appearing in the map in SMP. I think Notch said at one point that this might happen because of bad chunks or something, but he said that this should get fixed by the time you get there
#419 [02:08] <Arktis> That's where I spend most of my time, but it gets so...boring after so long.
#420 [02:09] <Sanek> anyone know if this can be fixed or just gotta wait for an update?
#421 [02:09] <Keaft> Heh Arktis this sounds like the time I got a waffle stuck in the circuitry of my computer
#422 [02:09] <aetherian> sanek: log in and out
#423 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Sanek - Happens more often than you think, just relog via your client
#424 [02:09] <bacon> Sanek: disconnect and rec-
#425 [02:09] <aetherian> lol
#426 [02:09] <Sanek> yeah I know that fixes it, but the problem is that I have a very long underwater tunnel with a railroad going through it and the holes mess everything up
#427 [02:09] * feenyx eats some bacon
#427 [02:09] * lemon-rev someone catch the beacon before it runs off with the rest of the cows :)
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#428 [02:10] <aetherian> Ba Co N
#429 [02:10] <Sanek> I have to get part way through the tunnel then stop, relogin then continue further every single time
#430 [02:10] <Keaft> one time I saw a creeper lay an egg
#431 [02:10] <aetherian> I saw that on youtube...
#432 [02:10] <Keaft> lol!
#433 [02:10] <Keaft> that's where I saw it
#434 [02:10] <relsqui> Sanek: in my experience the carts get through those holes pretty well, even when I couldn't walk through them; is that not true for you?
#435 [02:10] <bacon> ...creeggs?
#436 [02:10] <Keaft> SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSsssssssssssssSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSssssssssssss
#437 [02:11] <aetherian> nonono
#438 [02:11] <Sanek> to be honest, I was afraid the cart would glitch or something, so I always stopped before I get into one
#439 [02:11] <aetherian> like birdo, but they explode
#440 [02:11] <Sanek> let me see 1 sec
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#442 [02:11] <Sanek> ha, I guess not a problem then for me
#443 [02:11] <Sanek> thanks!
#444 [02:11] <Sanek> :)
#445 [02:12] <aetherian> darnit
#446 [02:13] <MrDodo> i opened port 25565 to all internal ips and nothing..
#447 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> MrDodo - Can you take a screenshot of the setup page?
#448 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Upload it to imgur.com
#449 [02:14] <Arktis> asdhgalsd;al
#450 [02:14] <Arktis> Okay, for the first time ever I managed to connect to an SMP server.
#451 [02:14] <MrDodo> setup?
#452 [02:14] <MrDodo> of
#453 [02:14] <Arktis> But I just got a java socket error.
#454 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> The page where you're trying to open the portt
#455 [02:14] <Keaft> port forwarding
#456 [02:14] <MrDodo> router?
#457 [02:14] <MrDodo> ok
#458 [02:15] <MrDodo> after dinner
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#461 [02:17] <Arktis> Damnit, still getting EoS errors..
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#463 [02:17] * Arktis sighs
#463 [02:17] <xales> Are you on Wifi?
#464 [02:18] <Arktis> Negative. Hard wired.
#465 [02:18] <xales> Do you have any other computers around you can test from?
#466 [02:18] <Arktis> My server, but that's currently RDP'd to.
#467 [02:19] <Arktis> Hang on one sec though, I'll try it.
#468 [02:19] <xales> Sorry - wasn't specific enough. Any other computers on the same internet connection?
#469 [02:19] <lahwran_> test
#470 [02:20] <Arktis> My server is hosted on the same network as I.
#471 [02:20] <Arktis> So yes.
#472 [02:20] <xales> Oh, I see
#473 [02:20] <Arktis> My home connection can support a 24 player TF2 server while running torrents, so...yeah.
#474 [02:20] <Arktis> It's downloading the .jar files right now
#475 [02:20] <Arktis> Crap, that won't work.
#476 [02:21] <Arktis> RDP won't allow it to use 3d accelleration.
#477 [02:21] <Arktis> I guess I have no other computer to test from.
#478 [02:22] <xales> Do you know what model of NIC is on the computer you are trying to play from?
#479 [02:23] <Arktis> One sec while I find out. Not usually something I keep off the top of my head.
#480 [02:24] <Arktis> Just a generic nVidia nForce driver.
#481 [02:24] <Arktis> Trying to find the actual model though
#482 [02:25] <xales> ok, thats fine
#483 [02:25] <xales> don't need an exact model
#484 [02:25] <Arktis> Good lord. driver last updated in 2005
#485 [02:26] <mcpower> Arktis: system information on windows wil help you out
#486 [02:26] <Arktis> How do you think I found out about the nForce driver?
#487 [02:27] <Arktis> My old system, I could tell you everything about...before the motherboard let a transistor go.
#488 [02:27] <Arktis> Had to replace that with another MoBo. A friend gave it to me. I know nothing of it.
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#491 [02:29] <Mentos> Er...
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#493 [02:30] <Arktis> There we go.
#494 [02:30] <Drule> Is there a way to generate a screenshot from a SMP level on a dedicated server?
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#496 [02:34] <Arktis> There.
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#499 [02:45] <DopeGhoti> Drule: like this? http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/map/
#500 [02:45] <Drule> yes DopeGhoti
#501 [02:45] <DopeGhoti> No, it's not possible.
#502 [02:45] <DopeGhoti> (yes, it is.)
#503 [02:45] <DopeGhoti> Google for "Minecraft Overviewer"
#504 [02:46] <Drule> When setting up pigmap, do you need your Google API to work for the IP your MC server is on, or the IP/URL of the site you're going to show the map on?
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#507 [02:55] <DopeGhoti> the IP of the site hosting the map.
#508 [02:58] <Arktis> Is it possible to build in single player, then transfer the map to SMP?
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#510 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes Arktis
#511 [03:02] <Arktis> Is it as simple as "copy the level.dat" file?
#512 [03:03] <Arktis> Also it appears that after updating my drivers to 2008, I'm no longer getting socket disconnects.
#513 [03:03] <Arktis> thus my SMP connection issues are now fixed.
#514 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> Yes Arktis, it's as simple as copying the world folder over
#515 [03:04] <Arktis> Oh.
#516 [03:04] <Arktis> Well dang.
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#521 [03:20] <DopeGhoti> that's definitely going into the FAQbot.
#522 [03:20] <DopeGhoti> So far I have five FAQs jotted down.
#523 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Which are
#524 [03:22] <DopeGhoti> "What block is #___ / What item ID is ____?"; "Can I use SSP saves in SMP (or vice versa)?"; "Port forwarding: How does it work?"; "Screen; how does it work?"; "Where can I download the {client,server} for {Windows,Linux,Mac}?"
#525 [03:23] <OODavo> How's this FAW-bot going to work? :/
#526 [03:23] <OODavo> s/W/Q/
#527 [03:24] <DopeGhoti> Similar to AuBot; triggers.
#528 [03:24] <DopeGhoti> I don't feel like making it regex everyone's PRIVMSGs to try to figure out what they're asking.
#529 [03:24] <OODavo> Yes, but which triggers?
#530 [03:24] <OODavo> And why is screen in the FAW?
#531 [03:24] <OODavo> %s/W/Q/g
#532 [03:25] * SinZ|Away is back (gone 02:17:25)
#532 [03:25] <DopeGhoti> probably something like '??keyword [> person-who-asked]'
#533 [03:25] <OODavo> Oh, that makes sense.
#534 [03:25] <OODavo> But why screen?
#535 [03:25] <DopeGhoti> it's been oft-discussed.
#536 [03:26] <OODavo> It has nothing to do with MC, as far as I can tell. :|
#537 [03:26] <DopeGhoti> enough that I've decided to write a primer. It has much to do with running an MC _server_.
#538 [03:26] <DopeGhoti> s/an MC //
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#540 [03:27] <OODavo> Is the entirety of the screen tutorial going to be "get tmux instead"?
#541 [03:27] <DopeGhoti> ..no, but if you want to write a primer of tmux for the uninitiated like myself, I'll happy include or link to it, depending upon how comprehensive it is.
#542 [03:28] <OODavo> Basic usage of tmux is essentially the same as screen.
#543 [03:28] <OODavo> Especially if one changes the prefix key to match screen. :P
#544 [03:28] <DopeGhoti> `diff tmux screen`
#545 [03:29] <OODavo> diff: tmux: No such file or directory
#546 [03:29] <OODavo> diff: screen: No such file or directory
#547 [03:29] <OODavo> Huh.
#548 [03:29] <OODavo> tmux is much easier to configure, for one thing.
#549 [03:29] <DopeGhoti> I was asking you; not /bin/bash.
#550 [03:29] <OODavo> And the splitting system is way, way better.
#551 [03:30] <OODavo> It also uses a client-server model that's better for multiuser sessions and the like.
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#553 [03:31] <OODavo> !reinstall
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#555 [03:31] <DopeGhoti> Ah, another FAQ: "Can someone test my server?"
#556 [03:31] <OODavo> Yes.
#557 [03:31] <OODavo> Make that the whole answer.
#558 [03:31] <OODavo> Just "Yes."
#559 [03:32] <OODavo> And have another one: "Will someone test my server?"
#560 [03:32] <DopeGhoti> I had planned on having every one in ten answers be the snarky version (:
#561 [03:32] <OODavo> And that one advises to go to #smp and stuff.
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#566 [03:38] <ThibSaiyen> Bonjour, il y a des français ?
#567 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> Non, desole.
#568 [03:40] <ThibSaiyen> -_-' ... j'arrive pas a jouer ... Le jeu charge mais a la fin j'ai un écran noir ... Tu pourrais m'aider ?
#569 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> Desole, mais, Je ne parle un peu français
#570 [03:41] <fogwraith> I can think of so many insults right here, but that would be so bad of me
#571 [03:41] <fogwraith> English for help
#572 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> Vous comprenez l'anglais?
#573 [03:42] <ThibSaiyen> yes
#574 [03:42] <DopeGhoti> Sprechst du Deutsch?
#575 [03:42] <ThibSaiyen> I can not play ... The game loads and I have a black screen ...
#576 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> ThibSaiyen - Have you been able to play before? Or never?
#577 [03:43] <ThibSaiyen> No, I just discovered the game
#578 [03:44] <DopeGhoti> ThibSaiyen: Try reinstalling the binaries:
#579 [03:44] <GreyVulpine> ThibSaiyen - What Operating system do you have?
#580 [03:44] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#581 [03:45] <ThibSaiyen> Windows XP ... But I would try the game on the internet before paying ...
#582 [03:46] <ThibSaiyen> And I have to reinstall Java ...
#583 [03:48] <ThibSaiyen> Where can I find help?
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#585 [03:50] <Solvius> hello
#586 [03:51] <ThibSaiyen> Hello
#587 [03:53] <ThibSaiyen> I get an error now ...
#588 [03:53] <aetherian> hello
#589 [03:53] <DopeGhoti> ThibSaiyen: what error?
#590 [03:54] <ThibSaiyen> fatal error occured (1) : unable to load logo and progressbarr images
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#592 [03:56] <ThibSaiyen> What should I do?
#593 [03:56] <DopeGhoti> ThibSaiyen: have you done this yet?
#594 [03:56] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#595 [03:56] <Solvius> yell at it :)
#596 [03:57] <ThibSaiyen> But I did not install because I play on the internet ...
#597 [03:58] <aetherian> night guys
#598 [03:58] <Solvius> sleep well
#599 [03:58] <aetherian> buh-huh
#600 [03:58] <aetherian> funnyman
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#602 [04:01] <Solvius> the link "The Minecraft Museum" on the support page is dead, a 404 message in the browser, maybe you guys know that
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#606 [04:18] <ThibSaiyen> I do all what is said on the page but I did not change ...
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#608 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> ThibSaiyen - Have you tried updating your java, your video card drivers?
#609 [04:20] <ThibSaiyen> Yes
#610 [04:21] <DopeGhoti> ThibSaiyen: what version of Java have you got installed?
#611 [04:21] <ThibSaiyen> 1.6.0_23-b05
#612 [04:22] <DopeGhoti> ThibSaiyen: Are you trying to play Classic or Beta?
#613 [04:22] <ThibSaiyen> Classic
#614 [04:22] <DopeGhoti> Ah, taht explains it
#615 [04:22] <DopeGhoti> Classic has been squirrely lately, unfortunately
#616 [04:23] <ThibSaiyen> So I am forced to buy it to play?
#617 [04:24] <DopeGhoti> ThibSaiyen: not forced as such, Mojang has mentioned expecting to have Classic working again soon.
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#619 [04:24] <ThibSaiyen> Ah disagree ... Well thank you ^ ^
#620 [04:24] <DopeGhoti> ThibSaiyen: They are working on moving their infrastructure yet again, and in their words, want to make sure that it's "Done properly; not just done quickly".
#621 [04:25] <DopeGhoti> ThibSaiyen: the problems with Classic seem to be intermittent, so you might get lucky if you keep trying it from time to time.
#622 [04:25] <ThibSaiyen> So I'll try later:) ... Thank you anyway;)
#623 [04:26] <DopeGhoti> You're welcome; sorry I did not have a more favorable answer for you
#624 [04:26] <ThibSaiyen> It's not your fault ...
#625 [04:27] <ThibSaiyen> Bye
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#631 [04:56] <GuluGulu> is there any chance u can run minecraft on a pc without internet by just transfering the client ?
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#637 [05:11] <SinZ> GuluGul if you tranfer the .minecraft folder, yeh
#638 [05:11] <SinZ> GuluGulu: ^
#639 [05:11] <GuluGulu> i did that but it didn't worked..
#640 [05:11] <SinZ> the %appdata%\.minecraft\ folder
#641 [05:12] <SinZ> into %appdata%\
#642 [05:12] <SinZ> it works, trust me
#643 [05:12] <GuluGulu> well i did it with bat file
#644 [05:12] <GuluGulu> %cd%
#645 [05:12] <SinZ> id do it normaly
#646 [05:12] <GuluGulu> kk ill try that..
#647 [05:16] <GuluGulu> hmm am i the only one who is not checking wiki for what can i make with mats
#648 [05:16] <GuluGulu> i wonder..
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#651 [05:22] <GuluGulu> is tehre a way tog et a screen shot on the window only than just print screen and crop it ?
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#661 [08:29] <Silent> hi
#662 [08:29] <Silent> can somebody tell me how to read the "blueprint"? http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=18733
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#667 [08:41] <mbentley> hmm interesting design...
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#673 [09:33] <CornstarchPudding> Silent, go for the tour option, download the world
#674 [09:34] <Silent> cannot download it :(
#675 [09:34] <Silent> thats the point :/
#676 [09:35] <nipper> Is mc login servers down? I can't seem to login.
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#681 [09:59] <mbentley> Silent: check the youtube video?
#682 [10:00] <Silent> i did ;)
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#685 [10:07] <game> hi, is there any way to change nick in game and email attached to my account once i've bought the gift code?
#686 [10:08] <CornstarchPudding> not yet
#687 [10:08] <game> but it will be?
#688 [10:08] <xales> It will eventually be possible to change email - there isn't a way to change your in-game name currentl
#689 [10:08] <CornstarchPudding> Possibly.
#690 [10:09] <game> maybe i could send mail to notch with that issue?
#691 [10:10] <xales> Not to Notch, no. He doesn't handle that stuff
#692 [10:10] <game> is there anybody who could help me?
#693 [10:10] <xales> You could email daniel@mojang.com but don't expect a response any time soon
#694 [10:10] <game> ok, thank you very much
#695 [10:10] <xales> they are currently flooded with emails, and customers with more urgent issues are a higher priority
#696 [10:10] <game> i'll that
#697 [10:11] <game> i understand
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#699 [10:11] <game> but i can always try
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#702 [10:15] <woobyet> hey guys... does someone knows a good mod that adds a npc partner for smp? like a human that follows you and chop trees/mine ores when he sees...
#703 [10:16] <xales> woobyet: Ask in #bukkit or look on the forum, this probably isn't the best place to ask
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#705 [10:16] <woobyet> xales: thanks
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#707 [10:22] <Shadow386> that's way too advanced for minecraft anyways
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#709 [10:26] <woobyet> too advanced? a npc that follows the player and when certain kinds of blocks are in a certain range he interacts? that minecolony is much more complex...
#710 [10:27] <Shadow386> well there is Herobrine in hMod and now crapbukkit
#711 [10:28] <woobyet> thank you. gonna take a look
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#720 [10:56] <vaultak101> hello?
#721 [10:56] <vaultak101> can someone help me?
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#723 [10:57] <vaultak101> anybody here?
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#727 [10:59] <xales> vaultak101: Hello
#728 [10:59] <xales> please wait more than 10 seconds before assuming nobody is here
#729 [10:59] <xales> anyway, did you need help?
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#737 [11:17] <Szernex> Why does MC keep crashing every now and then >.>
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#740 [11:23] <xales> Szernex: "crashing"?
#741 [11:23] <xales> is there a crash report?
#742 [11:24] <Szernex> nope
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#744 [11:24] <Szernex> The screen simply goes black, and I can only end it by killing the process
#745 [11:24] <xales> Try turning down the view distance
#746 [11:24] <xales> If it is on Far, put it on Normal.
#747 [11:25] <Szernex> kay, gonna try it, though I can't test it since it simply occurs randomly
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#749 [11:26] <LatHans> I have some minecraft servers running on linux. Can I protect certain areas, or require people to be whitelisted to be able to modify anything in the world?
#750 [11:26] <Szernex> But thanks
#751 [11:27] <xales> LatHans: Yes, using a mod. Ask in #bukkit
#752 [11:28] <LatHans> bukkit is the way to go, or are there any other alternatives I should take a look at?
#753 [11:29] <xales> I'm not sure, but if you want whitelisting certain areas, Bukkit is the way to go
#754 [11:29] <LatHans> thanks:)
#755 [11:30] <LatHans> any other server mods that might come in handy?
#756 [11:30] <LatHans> what do people usually use?
#757 [11:30] <xales> Bukkit is an API for mods
#758 [11:30] <xales> so everything would be installed as a Bukkit plugin
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#760 [11:33] <LatHans> I see
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#766 [11:51] <Sirhc> Any ideas on fixing java.lang.NullPointerException?
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#769 [11:53] <xales> Sirhc: You get it when you connect to your sever?
#770 [11:53] <xales> server*
#771 [11:53] <statik> !check
#772 [11:54] <Sirhc> It was crashing, and now after deleting my .minecraft folder (mine the saves) I get Internal exception: java.io.IOException: Bad packed id 237
#773 [11:54] <Sirhc> minus the*
#774 [11:55] <xales> Try re-downloading the server
#775 [11:55] <Sirhc> where does it save the files?
#776 [11:55] <xales> It doesn't save them anywhere - just the .jar or .exe
#777 [11:56] <Sirhc> I now get the same error but id 246
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#779 [11:57] <xales> Are you using any mods on the server?
#780 [11:57] <Sirhc> Nope just downloaded the .exe and ran it
#781 [11:57] <xales> Did you put it in the same folder it was in before?
#782 [11:58] <Sirhc> nope
#783 [11:58] <Sirhc> Either way I deleted all of the files it generated in the other folder
#784 [11:59] <xales> Did it just start doing that, or has it always done that?
#785 [11:59] <Sirhc> I have not ran a server locally before
#786 [12:00] <xales> Can you connect to other servers?
#787 [12:00] <Sirhc> got any I could try?
#788 [12:00] <Sirhc> I have not played multiplayer before
#789 [12:00] <xales> smp.shadow-craft.net
#790 [12:00] <xales> put that as the IP
#791 [12:01] <Sirhc> Logging in
#792 [12:02] <Sirhc> Connection timed out =\
#793 [12:02] <xales> oh, that server is down I think
#794 [12:02] <xales> try 'greyvulpine.dyndns.org'
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#796 [12:03] <Sirhc> xales, that works just fine...
#797 [12:03] <xales> Try downloading the server again, but use this link, and place it on your desktop
#798 [12:03] <xales> !server
#799 [12:03] <xales> err
#800 [12:03] <xales> ok, there we go
#801 [12:04] <Sirhc> xales, I have downloaded the Minecraft_Server.exe 8 times now =\
#802 [12:04] <statik> !ping
#803 [12:04] <crickets> statik Your Ping time was 0.401 Seconds.
#804 [12:04] <xales> Try that link
#805 [12:04] <Sirhc> !ping
#806 [12:04] <crickets> Sirhc Your Ping time was 0.651 Seconds.
#807 [12:04] <statik> !spam
#808 [12:04] <statik> :P
#809 [12:05] <CornstarchPudding> !dice 1d1
#810 [12:05] <Sirhc> nope... no luck
#811 [12:07] <Sirhc> xales, any other ideas?
#812 [12:08] <xales> Are you connecting to the right IP/port?
#813 [12:08] <Sirhc> 127.0.0.1....
#814 [12:08] <Sirhc> On the server status window I see [INFO] chr1831 [/127.0.0.1:61834] logged in with entity id 248
#815 [12:08] <Sirhc> [INFO] chr1831 lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#816 [12:08] <xales> Do you happen to know if the NIC on your computer is an Atheros?
#817 [12:09] <Sirhc> Lets find out :)
#818 [12:09] <Sirhc> Its a realtek
#819 [12:09] <xales> Are you running a firewall of any kind?
#820 [12:10] <Sirhc> Disabled them
#821 [12:10] <xales> What were they? Some don't actually turn off when you tell them to
#822 [12:11] <Sirhc> I use zonealarm (I killed the truevector service) and the windows firewall was already off
#823 [12:12] <xales> Did you shut it off using it's own controls before killing the service?
#824 [12:12] <Sirhc> Yeah
#825 [12:12] <Sirhc> I just checked and the service is still off
#826 [12:13] <xales> Try restarting it, let it restart the service, then make sure it is shut down in the control panel but with the service still running
#827 [12:14] <Sirhc> ok still no luck.. =\
#828 [12:16] <Sirhc> I'll be back later. This is pissing me off and before I end up kicking my computer I think i'll do some actual work :)
#829 [12:17] <xales> Ok
#830 [12:18] <statik> there is a big dent on the top of my case from that kind of thing :P
#831 [12:20] <Josef_> how much blocks space does a sapling need from starting one block above it?
#832 [12:21] <Josef_> fail
#833 [12:21] <Josef_> dam client
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#837 [12:26] <Sirhc> statik, I can understand how easy it is to beat the computer for a mc error :)
#838 [12:26] <Swompie> someone here? :D well, i know saplings need atleast 6 blocks to grow and light ect., but do the 6 blocks include the sapling? or is the sace above meant
#839 [12:27] <Swompie> space above*
#840 [12:27] <xales> Swompie: Try looking on http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Sapling but I would assume that the 6 blocks doesn't include it, just to be safe
#841 [12:28] <Swompie> it seems to include it :p thx
#842 [12:37] <LatHans> any public servers to recommend if I want to look at what fancy houses/towns etc people have made?:)
#843 [12:38] <xales> LatHans: Any of the large ones on http://minestatus.net/
#844 [12:38] <LatHans> thanks
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#847 [12:43] <Mythirion> Okay, I'm in need of some help
#848 [12:43] <Mythirion> About server administration
#849 [12:46] <Mythirion> But if you guys don't feel like helping, that's cool too
#850 [12:47] <xales> Sorry..
#851 [12:47] <xales> what do you need help with?
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#853 [12:49] <Mythirion> Okay, so I set up my server
#854 [12:49] <Mythirion> And I made myself an Op
#855 [12:49] <Mythirion> I'm using Windows 7 BTW
#856 [12:49] <Mythirion> And, when I log onto the server
#857 [12:50] <Mythirion> I can't do any commands like /help or /give or anythingf
#858 [12:50] <xales> Do they work in the server console?
#859 [12:50] <Mythirion> I don't know how to put commands into the console, it doesn't seem like there's a dialog box for me to type in
#860 [12:51] <xales> Are you using the official server?
#861 [12:51] <xales> no mods, or wrappers, or anything?
#862 [12:51] <Mythirion> Yeah, no mods or anything
#863 [12:51] <Mythirion> The dialog is working now, I rebooted the server
#864 [12:51] <xales> The commands work?
#865 [12:52] <Mythirion> Lemme try on the client
#866 [12:52] <Mythirion> That's funny, it works now
#867 [12:52] <Mythirion> Thanks!
#868 [12:52] <Mythirion> Haha
#869 [12:52] <xales> No problem
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#873 [13:16] <aetherian> hey
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#892 [14:47] <the_late_man> !ping
#893 [14:47] <aetherian> waugh
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#901 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> Wow, what a festival of ping timeouts #MineCraftHelp has become.
#902 [15:20] <SkiingPenguins> ?
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#905 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: /me points up
#906 [15:20] <SkiingPenguins> ah
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#916 [15:45] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> im getting "Connection lost: end of stream"
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#918 [15:47] <Da_Rhyno> Hi... I just purchased MineCraft today, and for some reason it's not coming up in my browsers at all. I also tried the downloadable wrapper, and it says "Cannot connect to minecraft.net"
#919 [15:48] <BurnZeZ> Make sure you have java.
#920 [15:48] <Peewee223> He asked the same question in #minecraft earlier
#921 [15:48] <Peewee223> they covered the basics
#922 [15:48] <BurnZeZ> Ah.
#923 [15:48] <BurnZeZ> Didn't scroll up enough.
#924 [15:48] <BurnZeZ> Da_Rhyno: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
#925 [15:49] <BurnZeZ> Just in case somebody missed that.
#926 [15:50] <Da_Rhyno> Java 6 Update 23
#927 [15:50] <Da_Rhyno> That was already covered. :)
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#929 [15:51] <Da_Rhyno> I tried uninstalling both Flash and Java (Minecraft acts like an unloaded flash video)
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#931 [15:52] <Da_Rhyno> And reinstalling... didn't help
#932 [15:52] <Peewee223> You're using win7, but is it 32 or 64 bit?
#933 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> For the record, Da_Rhyno, Minecraft is in no way connected to Flash.
#934 [15:54] <Da_Rhyno> 32 bit
#935 [15:54] <Da_Rhyno> Dope - I know... but all my browsers are treating it like a Flash Video
#936 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> Da_Rhyno: that's.. strange.
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#939 [15:58] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> oh ok i figured out my problem
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#941 [15:58] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> i picked up something i wasnt supposed to
#942 [15:58] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> and now i cant get back on
#943 [15:58] * Ruggsy[]Umb[] waits for the admin
#943 [15:59] <aetherian> damned isp
#944 [16:00] <aetherian> never had this problem with the old one >.>
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#946 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> Ruggsy[]Umb[]: er, wha? What did you pick up; herpes?
#947 [16:01] <aetherian> heya foggy wrath
#948 [16:01] <aetherian> lol
#949 [16:01] <aetherian> dope, I believe it's a mod.
#950 [16:01] <Da_Rhyno> Does anyone have a solution for this?
#951 [16:02] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> a parachute
#952 [16:02] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> :P
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#954 [16:03] <aetherian> what problem was it?
#955 [16:03] <aetherian> I was DCing
#956 [16:04] <Da_Rhyno> aetherian - I can't play the game in any webbrowser
#957 [16:05] <aetherian> what does it show
#958 [16:05] <Da_Rhyno> And I tried the download, it says "Can't connect to www.minecraft.net"
#959 [16:05] <Da_Rhyno> It shows a white box, and when I rightclick on it it says "Movie not loaded..." and "About Flash Player 10"
#960 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any firewalls that might be blocking java from making a connection?
#961 [16:05] <Da_Rhyno> not that I'm aware of...
#962 [16:06] <Da_Rhyno> I'm on my work network with my coworkers who are playing it
#963 [16:06] <Da_Rhyno> One in game, actually.
#964 [16:06] <aetherian> I swear, if there were no firewalls, this place would have 72.5 people on right now >.>
#965 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#966 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> There shouldn't be a flash association with java..
#967 [16:07] <Da_Rhyno> I know...
#968 [16:07] <Da_Rhyno> That's what's bothering me.
#969 [16:07] <aetherian> flash! ooohhh... he saved ever one of us!
#970 [16:07] <aetherian> *every
#971 [16:07] <aetherian> egad, now that ong's stuck in my head
#972 [16:07] <aetherian> *song, I'm failing a typing
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#974 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> Da_Rhyno: did you try the out-of-browser download rather than in-browser?
#975 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> Or is this classic?
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#979 [16:11] <DracoSilverscar> hey there... got an interesting problem i havn't seen before
#980 [16:11] <Checkzor> awwwwwwwwwwwwwww yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh
#981 [16:11] <aetherian> :o
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#983 [16:11] <Checkzor> Getting good with linux woot
#984 [16:11] <aetherian> recently install it?
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#986 [16:11] <Checkzor> on my vps
#987 [16:11] <aetherian> ah
#988 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> DracoSilverscar - with?
#989 [16:11] <aetherian> now get it on your pc
#990 [16:11] <Da_Rhyno> DopeGhoti - I tried the out of browser download...
#991 [16:11] <Checkzor> Grey knows all about it :P
#992 [16:12] <Da_Rhyno> It tells me "Cannot connect to www.minecraft.net"
#993 [16:12] <DracoSilverscar> minecraft won't start... whats that website that you paste a quote or whatever into so you can link it without flooding?
#994 [16:12] <Checkzor> This channel and a shit ton of googling basically taught me linux lol
#995 [16:12] <Checkzor> pastebin
#996 [16:12] <Checkzor> pastebin.com
#997 [16:12] <DracoSilverscar> thanks one moment
#998 [16:13] <aetherian> but dpn
#999 [16:13] <Mjiig> Checkzor:what distro?
#1000 [16:13] <aetherian> but don't we luurve floods?
#1001 [16:13] <aetherian> yeah, check?
#1002 [16:13] <DracoSilverscar> http://pastebin.com/Qq4Kez11
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#1004 [16:14] <DracoSilverscar> minecraft just exits out and makes a file with that error listed
#1005 [16:14] <aetherian> hello world in python is just too easy...
#1006 [16:14] <DracoSilverscar> tried everything else i can think of
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#1008 [16:14] <Checkzor> CentOS
#1009 [16:15] <Peewee223> JRE version: 6.0_22-b04
#1010 [16:15] <aetherian> check, never heard of it
#1011 [16:15] <Peewee223> Update your JRE to 23j
#1012 [16:15] <Checkzor> Wat
#1013 [16:15] <lemon-rev> has anyone tryed to optimize mc ? useing this mcregion ?
#1014 [16:15] <aetherian> oh, thank you for not posting that here
#1015 [16:15] <aetherian> that was huge
#1016 [16:15] <Checkzor> only the most widely used linux os for dedicated servers and vps's
#1017 [16:15] <aetherian> lemon-rev: I wouldn't reccomend it
#1018 [16:15] <Mjiig> *rack brains* isn't cent in the red hat family?
#1019 [16:15] <DracoSilverscar> ok... how am i gonna do that? never encountered JRE before
#1020 [16:15] <lemon-rev> thanks
#1021 [16:15] <aetherian> seeing as he's working on a better save system now
#1022 [16:15] <Da_Rhyno> Any ideas here people?
#1023 [16:15] <aetherian> so it may balete all yer stuff
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#1025 [16:16] <Peewee223> Da_Rhyno: Try waiting a day and see if you can connect then.
#1026 [16:16] <Checkzor> oh god
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#1028 [16:16] <Checkzor> there is a creeper
#1029 [16:16] <Checkzor> stuck
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#1031 [16:16] <Checkzor> ton my ladder
#1032 [16:16] <Checkzor> O_O
#1033 [16:16] <Checkzor> I'm trapped in my mine :(
#1034 [16:16] <Da_Rhyno> Okay...
#1035 [16:17] <Checkzor> If I go up ladder, I gets raped
#1036 [16:17] <Checkzor> fuuu
#1037 [16:17] <Mjiig> Checkzor: dig your way out?
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#1040 [16:18] <[JD]> just walk away
#1041 [16:18] <[JD]> come back later
#1042 [16:18] <Checkzor> yeah
#1043 [16:19] <[JD]> find a safe spot and go afk for like 2 minutes if you got nothin else to do
#1044 [16:19] <[JD]> check ur email or something =D
#1045 [16:19] <Checkzor> 2147483648 bytes (2.1 GB) copied, 6.50403 seconds, 330 MB/S
#1046 [16:19] <Checkzor> hmm
#1047 [16:19] <woobyet> hello guys. i want to know if there's a config or mod to change the size of the biomes in ssp. i've tried that biometerrain mod, but it generates maps too differently, and it also costs too much cpu. i just want to expand the default biomes. thanks
#1048 [16:19] <Checkzor> vps seems a tad slower
#1049 [16:19] <Checkzor> I was pushing 400 yesterday
#1050 [16:20] <Mjiig> Checkzor: just out of interest, who have you got a vps with?
#1051 [16:20] <[JD]> ask notch to make an option to make generated biomes bigger or smaller :P
#1052 [16:20] <Checkzor> frantech
#1053 [16:20] <Checkzor> I also wish bioms were bigger to
#1054 [16:21] <woobyet> [JD]: :(
#1055 [16:21] <Checkzor> i hate when you can see 3 biomes at once
#1056 [16:21] <Cial> im using the mcregion and the other one
#1057 [16:21] <Checkzor> hmm
#1058 [16:21] <Checkzor> anyone good with photoshop?
#1059 [16:21] <Cial> its not that bad but not that noticeable of a difference yet
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#1062 [16:23] <Mjiig> Checkzor: what do you want done?
#1063 [16:23] <Checkzor> Banner for my server
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#1065 [16:23] <Checkzor> It will be going public tonight
#1066 [16:24] <Checkzor> It a survival server with very few plugins, only a few anti griefing plugins, and the guestbook plugin
#1067 [16:24] <Checkzor> it's an 80 slot server
#1068 [16:24] <SkiingPenguins> why cant you make it yourself?
#1069 [16:24] <Checkzor> I'm bad
#1070 [16:24] <Checkzor> I can
#1071 [16:24] <SkiingPenguins> but it'd be a way to get better
#1072 [16:24] <Checkzor> Was justing asking if someone was bored
#1073 [16:24] <Checkzor> Honestly, me and any sort of design/art
#1074 [16:24] <Checkzor> no go
#1075 [16:25] <Cial> i never have anything that important not backed up
#1076 [16:26] <Checkzor> I can't even make a happy face look good :(
#1077 [16:26] <Checkzor> everything auot backs up every 3 hours?
#1078 [16:26] <Checkzor> my whole minecraft server folder is uploaded to my file server from my vps to my house
#1079 [16:26] <Checkzor> ?
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#1081 [16:27] <aetherian> oh vool, checkzor
#1082 [16:27] <aetherian> tell me what the ip is when it goes public
#1083 [16:27] <Checkzor> will do
#1084 [16:27] <Checkzor> so even if the datacenter blows up
#1085 [16:27] <Checkzor> I still have a backup
#1086 [16:28] <Checkzor> was a bitch getting it to do that
#1087 [16:28] <Checkzor> my buddy who is a linux guru got it done
#1088 [16:28] <Da_Rhyno> Is Minecraft's site down today?
#1089 [16:28] <Peewee223> Do you live in Egypt?
#1090 [16:28] <Da_Rhyno> Or right now, at least?
#1091 [16:28] <Da_Rhyno> No.
#1092 [16:28] <Peewee223> Then, no
#1093 [16:29] <Da_Rhyno> Then again, my boss just came in and said something's bogging down the network.
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#1095 [16:29] <Checkzor> haha
#1096 [16:29] <Peewee223> Your... You playing this at work? XD
#1097 [16:29] <Checkzor> I was about to say that
#1098 [16:29] <Da_Rhyno> Lol, yeah
#1099 [16:29] <Checkzor> What do you do for a living? :P
#1100 [16:29] <Da_Rhyno> Or attempting to, at least. O_o
#1101 [16:29] <Checkzor> haha
#1102 [16:29] <Da_Rhyno> Call center technician.
#1103 [16:29] <Checkzor> boss walks in
#1104 [16:29] <relsqui> that'd do it
#1105 [16:30] <Checkzor> WHAT WAS THAT
#1106 [16:30] <Checkzor> nuffffffing
#1107 [16:30] <Checkzor> was the report due tomorrow
#1108 [16:30] <Checkzor> >_>
#1109 [16:30] <Da_Rhyno> He don't care as long as we take calls and do tickets correctly.
#1110 [16:30] <Da_Rhyno> And not stream a hell of a lot of data.
#1111 [16:30] <Checkzor> do you work at a datacenter?
#1112 [16:30] <Da_Rhyno> Nah, but our phone system works off the T1 line.
#1113 [16:30] <Checkzor> or call center or customer support office type thing
#1114 [16:30] <Checkzor> ahh
#1115 [16:31] <Checkzor> neat
#1116 [16:31] <Da_Rhyno> Yeah
#1117 [16:31] <Checkzor> I lifegaurd :/
#1118 [16:31] <relsqui> Checkzor: not so good for net access
#1119 [16:31] <Checkzor> hard to play minecraft without a comp while sitting on a giant chair
#1120 [16:31] <Da_Rhyno> LOL
#1121 [16:31] <Da_Rhyno> Where are you from if it's not too personal?
#1122 [16:31] <Checkzor> Edmonton alberta Canada
#1123 [16:31] <Da_Rhyno> It must be a temperate area this time of year. =P
#1124 [16:31] <Da_Rhyno> O_o
#1125 [16:31] <relsqui> not so much XD
#1126 [16:31] <Checkzor> indoor pool
#1127 [16:31] <Da_Rhyno> hahaha
#1128 [16:31] <Checkzor> lmao
#1129 [16:31] <relsqui> ah
#1130 [16:31] <Da_Rhyno> Ahhhh I see.
#1131 [16:31] <Da_Rhyno> xD
#1132 [16:31] <Checkzor> 6 feet of snow?
#1133 [16:31] <Checkzor> -30 celcius
#1134 [16:32] <Da_Rhyno> Swimming through snow I guess.
#1135 [16:32] <Checkzor> -22 ferighnheight
#1136 [16:32] <Da_Rhyno> Damn hard nipples then.
#1137 [16:32] <Peewee223> You mean tropical? I live in a temperate zone and have 30 inches of snow on the ground
#1138 [16:32] <statik> !weather
#1139 [16:32] <Da_Rhyno> tropical area I mean.
#1140 [16:32] <relsqui> Checkzor is actually a lifeguard for a skating rink. that's what they call the pools in Edmonton this time of year :P
#1141 [16:32] <Checkzor> !weather
#1142 [16:32] <Checkzor> rofl
#1143 [16:32] <Da_Rhyno> hehe.
#1144 [16:32] <statik> !weather 79912
#1145 [16:32] <Peewee223> !weather
#1146 [16:32] <crickets> statik: From 11 NE, El Paso, Texas (2:20p Feb 03 11) temp(17.0 F / -8.3 C, feels like 9 F / -13 C) cond(Mostly Cloudy) wind(North at 5.0 mph / 8.0 km/h) hu(99%) dewpnt(17 F / -8 C) bp(30.45 in / 1031.0 hPa (Falling)) clouds(Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 4200 ft / 1280 m, Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 5000 ft / 1524 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(3 out of 16)
#1147 [16:32] <crickets> Today: Partly cloudy. Highs in the upper teens. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.
#1148 [16:32] <crickets> Alert: Wind Chill Advisory in effect until noon MST today...
#1149 [16:32] <Peewee223> :O
#1150 [16:32] <Checkzor> actually we had a really warm day today
#1151 [16:32] <Da_Rhyno> !weather
#1152 [16:32] <Checkzor> it hit zero
#1153 [16:32] <Da_Rhyno> !weather 21620
#1154 [16:32] <Checkzor> O_O
#1155 [16:33] <crickets> Da_Rhyno: From Genos Automotive Chestertown, Maryland (4:32p Feb 03 11) temp(33.8 F / 1.0 C, feels like 30 F / -1 C) cond(Scattered Clouds) wind(NNW at 4.0 mph / 6.4 km/h) hu(20%) dewpnt(-3 F / -19 C) bp(30.33 in / 1027.0 hPa (Rising)) clouds(Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 12000 ft / 3657 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(1 out of 16)
#1156 [16:33] <crickets> Tonight: Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 20s. West winds around 5 mph.
#1157 [16:33] <Checkzor> !weather t5w4w8
#1158 [16:33] <crickets> Checkzor: From Sunridge Ski Area, Edmonton, Alberta (2:32p Feb 03 11) temp(44.1 F / 6.7 C, feels like 44 F / 7 C) cond(Overcast) wind(SSW at 3.0 mph / 4.8 km/h) hu(63%) dewpnt(32 F / 0 C) bp(29.83 in / 1010.0 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 2900 ft / 883 m, Overcast (OVC) : 9600 ft / 2926 m) vis(9.0 miles / 14.5 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#1159 [16:33] <crickets> Thursday: Chance of Rain. High: 44 F.
#1160 [16:33] <Checkzor> aww
#1161 [16:33] <Checkzor> woot
#1162 [16:33] <Peewee223> !weather 49090
#1163 [16:33] <crickets> Peewee223: From South Haven, Michigan (4:29p Feb 03 11) temp(21.9 F / -5.6 C, feels like 10 F / -12 C) cond(Clear) wind(WSW at 13.0 mph / 20.9 km/h) hu(65%) dewpnt(12 F / -11 C) bp(30.33 in / 1027.0 hPa (Falling)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(7.0 miles / 11.3 kilometers) uv(1 out of 16)
#1164 [16:33] <crickets> Tonight: Mostly clear. Areas of blowing snow. Lows 5 to 10 above. Southwest winds around 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Wind chill readings as low as minus 11.
#1165 [16:33] <statik> :P
#1166 [16:33] <relsqui> Checkzor: here is why that's bizarre to me:
#1167 [16:33] <Peewee223> :(
#1168 [16:33] <Checkzor> damn such a nice day out today
#1169 [16:33] <relsqui> !weather 94709
#1170 [16:33] <Peewee223> Fuck more snow
#1171 [16:33] <crickets> relsqui: From Berkeley, Berkeley, California (1:31p Feb 03 11) temp(55.3 F / 12.9 C) cond(Scattered Clouds) wind(West at 6.2 mph / 10.0 km/h) hu(44%) dewpnt(34 F / 1 C) bp(30.39 in / 1029.0 hPa (Falling)) clouds(Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 20000 ft / 6096 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(3 out of 16)
#1172 [16:33] <crickets> Today: Sunny. Highs in the 50s to mid 60s. East winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming northwest in the afternoon.
#1173 [16:33] <Checkzor> I'm in freaking Canada and it's warmer than where you all are
#1174 [16:33] <Da_Rhyno> Lol, that's funny
#1175 [16:33] <Da_Rhyno> xD
#1176 [16:33] <Checkzor> lol
#1177 [16:33] <relsqui> not me! I'm a nothern california native who bitches and moans when it gets down to 50 F :)
#1178 [16:33] <Checkzor> one in a million :p
#1179 [16:34] <relsqui> <-- temperature wuss
#1180 [16:34] <statik> wind chill is 9 i win :P
#1181 [16:34] <Checkzor> d'awww
#1182 [16:34] <Checkzor> want to trade places?
#1183 [16:34] <relsqui> there are cherry blossoms blooming a couple blocks from here
#1184 [16:34] <relsqui> poor confused trees
#1185 [16:34] <Checkzor> trade me!
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#1187 [16:34] <relsqui> heck no :)
#1188 [16:34] <Peewee223> uv(1 out of 16)
#1189 [16:34] <Peewee223> No sun for me :(
#1190 [16:34] <Checkzor> PWWEEEZ?
#1191 [16:34] <relsqui> you can come share >_>
#1192 [16:35] <Checkzor> ooo rel
#1193 [16:35] <Checkzor> can you ping my server
#1194 [16:35] <Checkzor> since your in cali
#1195 [16:35] <statik> !ping
#1196 [16:35] <crickets> statik Your Ping time was 0.35 Seconds.
#1197 [16:35] <relsqui> haha. sure? where am I pinging?
#1198 [16:35] <Checkzor> 205.185.125.67
#1199 [16:35] <Checkzor> dat
#1200 [16:35] <statik> !ping IP
#1201 [16:35] <relsqui> oh, wait
#1202 [16:35] <relsqui> I should probably not ping from my terminal to a colo server
#1203 [16:35] <Checkzor> that goes off the ircs server :<
#1204 [16:35] <Checkzor> lol
#1205 [16:35] <Checkzor> ya
#1206 [16:35] <statik> ping 205.185.125.67
#1207 [16:35] <relsqui> I actually have no clue where this machine physically is
#1208 [16:36] <statik> !ping 205.185.125.67
#1209 [16:36] <Peewee223> Reply from 205.185.125.67: bytes=32 time=152ms TTL=49
#1210 [16:36] <Peewee223> Reply from 205.185.125.67: bytes=32 time=141ms TTL=49
#1211 [16:36] <Peewee223> Reply from 205.185.125.67: bytes=32 time=125ms TTL=49
#1212 [16:36] <Peewee223> Reply from 205.185.125.67: bytes=32 time=103ms TTL=49
#1213 [16:36] <relsqui> average 17ms
#1214 [16:36] <Checkzor> haha
#1215 [16:36] <Checkzor> well you wouldn't lag >_>
#1216 [16:36] <relsqui> \o/
#1217 [16:36] <Checkzor> I'm up in canada and I get 45ms
#1218 [16:36] <Checkzor> so still pretty bloody good
#1219 [16:36] <Checkzor> Good datacenter is good
#1220 [16:37] <statik> --- 205.185.125.67 ping statistics ---
#1221 [16:37] <statik> 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9009ms
#1222 [16:37] <statik> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 60.300/61.928/63.315/1.187 ms
#1223 [16:37] <relsqui> yeah, from the server I'm on is about 77
#1224 [16:37] <relsqui> I wonder if we could triangulate and figure out where it physically is
#1225 [16:37] <Checkzor> Lol
#1226 [16:37] <Checkzor> would be awesome
#1227 [16:37] <Peewee223> Triangulate? Just whois
#1228 [16:37] <Checkzor> Actually I'm tempted to get in moved onto the cloud
#1229 [16:37] <nipper> !ping mcdominion.net
#1230 [16:37] <Checkzor> yeah cloud server ftw
#1231 [16:38] <Checkzor> it's in california btw
#1232 [16:38] <Checkzor> hence why your ping is so low
#1233 [16:38] <relsqui> I'm reminded of this, which is awesome: http://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html
#1234 [16:38] <relsqui> Checkzor: figured that, yeah
#1235 [16:39] <Checkzor> still I'm in canada, and 45ms for me is amazing
#1236 [16:39] <Checkzor> aka zero lag
#1237 [16:39] <relsqui> yeah not too shabby
#1238 [16:39] <Checkzor> well latency lag
#1239 [16:39] <Checkzor> but zero ingame lag thanks to lots o ram and 400mb/s disk i/o
#1240 [16:39] <Checkzor> :)
#1241 [16:39] <Checkzor> fast loading chunks!
#1242 [16:40] <Peewee223> Jeeze, 14 hops to 205.185.125.67
#1243 [16:40] <Checkzor> lolwhat?
#1244 [16:40] <Peewee223> tracert 205.185.125.67
#1245 [16:40] <relsqui> have you heard my new band, the Fast Loading Chunks?
#1246 [16:41] <Checkzor> !trace 205.185.125.67
#1247 [16:41] <Checkzor> d'aww
#1248 [16:41] <Peewee223> Tracing route to 205.185.125.67 over a maximum of 30 hops
#1249 [16:41] <Peewee223> 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.66.1
#1250 [16:41] <Peewee223> 2 43 ms 20 ms 48 ms bu-10-ubr02.shaven.mi.michigan.comcast.net [73.33.252.1]
#1251 [16:41] <Peewee223> 3 100 ms 88 ms 92 ms ge-3-2-ur01.shaven.mi.michigan.comcast.net [68.86.141.129]
#1252 [16:41] <Peewee223> 4 53 ms 53 ms 11 ms te-8-1-ur01.holland.mi.michigan.comcast.net [68.87.191.249]
#1253 [16:41] <Peewee223> 5 26 ms 57 ms 77 ms te-0-7-0-3-ar01.pontiac.mi.michigan.comcast.net [68.87.191.245]
#1254 [16:41] <Peewee223> 6 124 ms 141 ms 112 ms pos-3-4-0-0-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.113]
#1255 [16:41] <Peewee223> 7 125 ms 152 ms 184 ms pos-1-5-0-0-pe01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.87.126]
#1256 [16:41] <Peewee223> 8 95 ms 115 ms 131 ms 208.178.58.73
#1257 [16:41] <Peewee223> 9 176 ms 143 ms 151 ms Hurrican-Electric-LLC.Port-channel100.ar3.SJC2.gblx.net [64.214.174.246]
#1258 [16:41] <Peewee223> 10 237 ms 234 ms 214 ms 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.fmt1.he.net [72.52.92.109]
#1259 [16:41] <Peewee223> 11 222 ms 165 ms 344 ms 64.71.129.70
#1260 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Please don't spam that here
#1261 [16:41] <Peewee223> 12 117 ms 100 ms 105 ms 64.71.165.146
#1262 [16:41] <Peewee223> 13 139 ms 109 ms 125 ms 205.185.112.125
#1263 [16:41] <Peewee223> 14 167 ms 131 ms 130 ms 205.185.125.67
#1264 [16:41] <Peewee223> Trace complete.
#1265 [16:41] * GreyVulpine kicked Peewee223 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: 4No Spamming!) ()
#1266 [16:41] <statik> oops
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#1268 [16:41] <Peewee223> Sowwwwy
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#1270 [16:41] <statik> spamtastic
#1271 [16:42] <Wahrheit> http://pastie.org/1526378
#1272 [16:42] <Checkzor> so what does that all mean exactly?
#1273 [16:42] <Wahrheit> What do?
#1274 [16:42] <Peewee223> Do you run windows?
#1275 [16:42] <Checkzor> me?
#1276 [16:42] <Checkzor> yes
#1277 [16:42] <Peewee223> open a command prompt and type in 'tracert 205.185.125.67'
#1278 [16:42] <Solvius> spamation :)
#1279 [16:42] <Wahrheit> mollstam: Spammer on network, PAMELAAAA
#1280 [16:43] <statik> spam-diddly-damn .. Ned Flanders style
#1281 [16:43] <Wahrheit> xales: http://pastie.org/1526378 still gettin' dis.
#1282 [16:43] <Checkzor> jeeez
#1283 [16:44] <Checkzor> lots of hops
#1284 [16:44] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> Wahrheit
#1285 [16:44] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> i have that too
#1286 [16:44] <Checkzor> is that a bad or good thing peewee?
#1287 [16:44] <xales> Wahrheit: It might be the world...
#1288 [16:44] <Peewee223> Bad if you want a non-laggy connection
#1289 [16:44] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> but it happend because i picked up something i wasnt supposed to
#1290 [16:44] <Checkzor> hmm
#1291 [16:44] <Wahrheit> xales: Nope, reverted to previous backups and no dice.
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#1293 [16:44] <Peewee223> but there's no way to improve it unless you control an ISP
#1294 [16:44] <Wahrheit> xales: Happens to new AND old users alike.
#1295 [16:44] <Checkzor> Hey it's XALES
#1296 [16:45] <Checkzor> Hi xales!
#1297 [16:45] <Wahrheit> I know for a fact my character is miles from spawn as well.
#1298 [16:45] <Wahrheit> Checkzor: Spam less please
#1299 [16:45] <xales> Hi Checkzor
#1300 [16:45] <Checkzor> :/
#1301 [16:45] <Wahrheit> xales: idears? :/
#1302 [16:45] <xales> Wahrheit: Does it happen if you run the server with the vanilla jar in a new folder?
#1303 [16:45] <Wahrheit> Ruggsy[]Umb[]: Do you use any modifications?
#1304 [16:46] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> SDK gun mod
#1305 [16:46] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> thats it
#1306 [16:46] <Wahrheit> xales: I don't immediately control the filestructure but I'll make a vanilla profile with clanforge
#1307 [16:46] <Wahrheit> give me a moment
#1308 [16:46] <Wahrheit> xales: same world or new?
#1309 [16:46] <xales> oh...see, if you get that
#1310 [16:46] <xales> talk to clanforge then
#1311 [16:47] <xales> gah
#1312 [16:47] <xales> chanserv has something against my channel
#1313 [16:48] <xales> 16:45:38 -!- Peewee223 was kicked from #xales by ChanServ [You are not permitted to be on this channel.]
#1314 [16:48] <xales> ._.
#1315 [16:48] <Wahrheit> xales: I use Multiplay, they provide clanforge for administration
#1316 [16:48] <Peewee223> .-.
#1317 [16:48] <statik> pick on poor peewee :(
#1318 [16:48] <Wahrheit> xales: So do what then? I already contacted MP and I'd like to do as much as I can without them because they are UK and I am US
#1319 [16:49] <xales> oh, thought clanforge was a company. Talk to their support then...there isn't really much you can do
#1320 [16:49] <xales> it is a problem with their system, possibly something with the way they are running the server
#1321 [16:49] <xales> there isn't likely that much you can do
#1322 [16:49] <Wahrheit> DSFARGEG
#1323 [16:49] <Wahrheit> Ruggsy[]Umb[]: Are you on Multiplay?
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#1325 [16:49] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> i dont know its not my server :/
#1326 [16:49] <Wahrheit> Ruggsy[]Umb[]: Ask your admin.
#1327 [16:49] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> im waiting for him to come on IRC
#1328 [16:49] <Wahrheit> Ruggsy[]Umb[]: What server are you trying to connect to?
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#1330 [16:50] <Wahrheit> Ruggsy[]Umb[]: I can probably just check if it's an MP one
#1331 [16:50] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> idk
#1332 [16:50] <xales> !ping 74.125.226.115
#1333 [16:50] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> i have it in MC which i dont have open
#1334 [16:50] <xales> good
#1335 [16:50] <Wahrheit> Then open it lol
#1336 [16:50] <Wahrheit> !ping minecraft.summaxr.com
#1337 [16:50] <Wahrheit> The server itself is online
#1338 [16:51] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> im busy
#1339 [16:51] <Wahrheit> Shows fine cpu, ram, etc
#1340 [16:51] <Wahrheit> but can't connect
#1341 [16:51] <Wahrheit> Checking the server logs doesn't help either
#1342 [16:51] <Wahrheit> I thought it might be an addon but there are no errors
#1343 [16:51] <statik> !check
#1344 [16:51] <xales> statik: Do you really need to do that randomly every so often?
#1345 [16:51] <Wahrheit> !check minecraft.summaxr.com
#1346 [16:52] <Wahrheit> D:
#1347 [16:52] <Wahrheit> !check summaxr.com
#1348 [16:52] <Wahrheit> Oh durp
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#1350 [16:52] <Wahrheit> !check minecraft.summaxr.com:27265
#1351 [16:52] <Wahrheit> hurpdurp
#1352 [16:52] <Wahrheit> >mfw forgot the port
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#1354 [16:53] <statik> i like to play with bots they are my only friends :)
#1355 [16:53] <xales> Please don't
#1356 [16:53] <Wahrheit> xales: The server seems to work fine in vanilla...
#1357 [16:54] <statik> okey dokey
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#1359 [16:54] <xales> Wahrheit: You could try rebuilding the server from scratch, reinstalling all the mods, etc.
#1360 [16:54] <xales> and see if that works
#1361 [16:54] <Wahrheit> xales: I'm duplicating my hmod profile and removing all the addons, seeing if that works
#1362 [16:55] <Wahrheit> if it does, add mods one at a time
#1363 [16:55] <Wahrheit> :p
#1364 [16:55] <Wahrheit> IS THERE AN OFFICER PROBLEM
#1365 [16:56] <Wahrheit> It's something recent they've changed
#1366 [16:56] <Wahrheit> not a plugin's fault
#1367 [16:56] <Wahrheit> I mean unless it is the world which I hope it is not
#1368 [16:56] <feenyx> I swear to drunk Office, I'm not god
#1369 [16:56] <feenyx> officer*
#1370 [16:57] <Wahrheit> oh for the love of fuck it was my motd.
#1371 [16:58] <statik> agreed
#1372 [16:58] <Wahrheit> No, literally
#1373 [16:58] <Wahrheit> My MOTD was causing an unhandled exception
#1374 [16:59] <Wahrheit> THAT'S JUST DISAPPOINTING.
#1375 [16:59] <Sirhc> Are there any alternative mc beta servers?
#1376 [16:59] <Wahrheit> Sirhc: Define alternative
#1377 [16:59] <Wahrheit> I use hmod 134
#1378 [16:59] <Sirhc> not in java :)
#1379 [16:59] <Wahrheit> Oh no idea
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#1382 [16:59] <Sirhc> Can I at least restrict cpu usage?
#1383 [17:00] <Wahrheit> Bad idea
#1384 [17:00] <Wahrheit> lol
#1385 [17:00] <onix> HEY CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO reinstall minecraft
#1386 [17:00] <Wahrheit> onix: why
#1387 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> !reinstall
#1388 [17:00] <Wahrheit> xales: Now I have working radio, minecraft, AND IRC OH YAY.
#1389 [17:00] <Peewee223> !help
#1390 [17:00] <Sirhc> Wahrheit, I never said it was a good idea...
#1391 [17:00] <Sirhc> !paid Sirhc
#1392 [17:00] <peru_> !motd
#1393 [17:00] <Peewee223> !paid Peewee223
#1394 [17:00] <onix> ya i seen that but i dont have C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming
#1395 [17:00] <Sirhc> !paid chr1831
#1396 [17:00] <onix> need the other path
#1397 [17:00] <peru_> !motd
#1398 [17:01] <Sirhc> :)
#1399 [17:01] <xales> !disable
#1400 [17:01] <Wahrheit> You need to be able to see hidden folders
#1401 [17:01] <Wahrheit> And brosef
#1402 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> onix - Go to your start menu, type in the search bar/run command - %appdata%
#1403 [17:01] <Wahrheit> you browse to your user's folder as well
#1404 [17:01] <Wahrheit> So mine would be
#1405 [17:01] <onix> OK TY
#1406 [17:01] <Wahrheit> C:\Users\Wahrheit\AppData\Roaming
#1407 [17:01] <xales> lol
#1408 [17:02] <Wahrheit> :)
#1409 [17:02] <MrDodo> alrighty can i have some help
#1410 [17:02] <Wahrheit> IF YOU TELL ME WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE FOLLOWING LINE, I'LL PLAY WHATEVER YOU WANT ON MY RADIO.
#1411 [17:02] <Wahrheit> Visit the forums at §4Summaxr.com §bfor updates, contests and more! §2@VIP §bbenefits are available for contributors, @contact an §cadministrator §bfor details! @Join the §7Steam §bgroup if you haven't yet! @Invite your friends for rewards and more fun! (disablepimu
#1412 [17:03] <xales> probably the non-ASCII characters.
#1413 [17:03] <xales> all of them.
#1414 [17:03] <xales> remove them all.
#1415 [17:03] <Wahrheit> Color coded for Hmod 134
#1416 [17:03] <xales> remove them anyway
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#1418 [17:03] <Peewee223> Kill the § Kill them!
#1419 [17:03] <MrDodo> did you want that screeny greyvulpine?
#1420 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1421 [17:04] <MrDodo> for the ports
#1422 [17:04] <pachuco> whats the 2nd path to find my minecrft folder in my harddrive
#1423 [17:04] <xales> 2nd path?
#1424 [17:04] <Peewee223> Start -> Run -> Type in %appdata% -> Enter
#1425 [17:04] <pachuco> yes the path on wiki dint work
#1426 [17:04] <pachuco> ty
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#1428 [17:05] <Peewee223> inb4 'cant find run'
#1429 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Sure MrDodo
#1430 [17:05] <MrDodo> what was the website?
#1431 [17:06] <MrDodo> the picture one
#1432 [17:06] <MrDodo> dw i got it
#1433 [17:07] <Wahrheit> Well the server is online now and you won't get pwned when you join, love to see you on sometime xales. :D
#1434 [17:07] <xales> Wahrheit: I wish I had more time to play ._. but I'll try to stop by when I have time
#1435 [17:08] <Wahrheit> xales: Do you have the IP? :p
#1436 [17:08] <Wahrheit> xales: And I'd be happy to just give you a tour, no need to stick around.
#1437 [17:08] <MrDodo> but it vill no vurk!
#1438 [17:08] <xales> Wahrheit: It's in my log, I can just grep it
#1439 [17:08] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> Minecraft world tours sounds fun
#1440 [17:09] <Wahrheit> xales: kewbeens
#1441 [17:09] <Wahrheit> Ruggsy[]Umb[]: Feel free to stop by any time. :)
#1442 [17:09] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> whats the ip?
#1443 [17:09] <Wahrheit> !check minecraft.summaxr.com:27265
#1444 [17:10] <Wahrheit> durp?
#1445 [17:10] <Wahrheit> !help
#1446 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> you.. broke aubot
#1447 [17:10] <Wahrheit> I didn't do anything to it
#1448 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Hope you're happy
#1449 [17:10] <Wahrheit> It was your fault
#1450 [17:10] <Wahrheit> or maybe it was statik
#1451 [17:10] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> lol
#1452 [17:10] <MrDodo> gah!
#1453 [17:10] <MrDodo> >GreyVulpine< http://i.imgur.com/Rwiqh.png
#1454 [17:10] <xales> !enable
#1455 [17:11] <MrDodo> oops.. :s
#1456 [17:11] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> !check minecraft.summaxr.com:27265
#1457 [17:11] <Wahrheit> :D
#1458 [17:12] <Wahrheit> So yeah that's the ip
#1459 [17:12] <Wahrheit> Don't forget the port obvs
#1460 [17:12] <Wahrheit> or it won't work
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#1463 [17:14] <MrDodo> when i try to connect the console registers it but i still fail to connect
#1464 [17:15] <MrDodo> [INFO] /192.168.1.254:59900 lost connection
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#1466 [17:16] <Phonetic> I'm trying to set mine up but whenever someone tries to connect it keeps saying "Kicked /*ip address : You have to log in!" and the fix i found on the forums isnt working :/
#1467 [17:16] <MrDodo> !paid fergoiz
#1468 [17:17] <MrDodo> !paid ziogref
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#1470 [17:17] <xales> Phonetic: Are you trying to run a Beta server?
#1471 [17:17] <xales> MrDodo: Do you have a firewall running?
#1472 [17:18] <MrDodo> no
#1473 [17:18] <MrDodo> i have firewall
#1474 [17:18] <Phonetic> xales: yes
#1475 [17:18] <MrDodo> hate*
#1476 [17:18] <xales> Phonetic: That is the wrong server software then
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#1478 [17:18] <Phonetic> thank you
#1479 [17:18] <Lampshade> !paid
#1480 [17:18] <xales> MrDodo: Can you connect with 127.0.0.1
#1481 [17:19] <Lampshade> !paid Lampshade
#1482 [17:19] <Lampshade> What?
#1483 [17:19] <Lampshade> I have paid
#1484 [17:19] <xales> !paid xales
#1485 [17:19] <Lampshade> I just bouth it
#1486 [17:19] <xales> if you just bot it, it won't immediately go through
#1487 [17:19] <Lampshade> Oh well
#1488 [17:19] <Lampshade> Might take a while to it to show up
#1489 [17:19] <Lampshade> Yeah
#1490 [17:19] <Lampshade> I only bought it to change skins Lol
#1491 [17:19] <xales> lol
#1492 [17:20] <Lampshade> Ok, I'm off
#1493 [17:20] <Phonetic> xales: where can i find the correct server software
#1494 [17:20] <xales> !server
#1495 [17:20] <Lampshade> I just wanted to see if it'd work
#1496 [17:20] <Phonetic> ooh thanks
#1497 [17:22] <MrDodo> xales: yes
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#1499 [17:23] <xales> MrDodo: Is there a firewall running on your router?
#1500 [17:23] <Wahrheit> xales: The next time someone gets my error
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#1502 [17:25] <MrDodo> xales: just wait a sec coz i gotta figure out my router first
#1503 [17:26] <MrDodo> xales: i believe everything is allowed through
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#1507 [17:36] <MrDodo> all i wanna do is host a game for me and my friend.. :s
#1508 [17:36] <Dominus> MrDodo: Just gotta say, can be a hard thing to do.
#1509 [17:38] <aetherian> am I the only one who thought starting a working server was toooo easy?
#1510 [17:38] <aetherian> brb
#1511 [17:38] <GuluGulu> well is not hard for somone who knows a bit of computing
#1512 [17:38] <GuluGulu> mrdodo waht prob u got
#1513 [17:38] <GuluGulu> u start the server and your friend's can't connect ?
#1514 [17:39] <MrDodo> ive started the server
#1515 [17:39] <MrDodo> got the whole ip thing happenin
#1516 [17:39] <MrDodo> forwarded my ports
#1517 [17:39] <MrDodo> no firewalls
#1518 [17:39] <MrDodo> and nada
#1519 [17:39] <GuluGulu> are u sure that you forward your correct port
#1520 [17:39] <Phonetic> now I got my server running, but there seems to be a delay, only when picking up items though. If its just a freak thing on my end I'll deal but if its a known issue it'd be cool to fix
#1521 [17:39] <MrDodo> yep
#1522 [17:39] <GuluGulu> actualy allow connections in right port
#1523 [17:39] <GuluGulu> 25562
#1524 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> 2556..2?
#1525 [17:40] <MrDodo> why2?
#1526 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> 62?
#1527 [17:40] <Dominus> Isn't it 25565
#1528 [17:40] <MrDodo> thats what i thought
#1529 [17:40] <GuluGulu> soz 5 i mnea
#1530 [17:40] <Dominus> The standard port
#1531 [17:40] <Dominus> ^__^
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#1533 [17:40] <MrDodo> yea
#1534 [17:40] <GuluGulu> yeah my bad*
#1535 [17:40] <MrDodo> i did 25565
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#1537 [17:40] <Dominus> aetherian!
#1538 [17:40] <Dominus> *hugs*
#1539 [17:41] <GuluGulu> waht's your ip?
#1540 [17:41] <aetherian> <3
#1541 [17:42] <MrDodo> lol unless its a bull ip..
#1542 [17:42] <MrDodo> and its not internal
#1543 [17:42] <MrDodo> 220.253.96.70
#1544 [17:42] <Dominus> Nice sharing of your personal IP. js
#1545 [17:43] <MrDodo> yea i can change it so....
#1546 [17:43] <GuluGulu> yeah like he can't change it with a reset..
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#1548 [17:43] <Wahrheit> xales: As I was TRYING TO say
#1549 [17:43] <Wahrheit> xales: Don't include a color code before a linebreak or it will crash everyone
#1550 [17:43] <Wahrheit> xales: Please tell that to anyone with my error :p
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#1552 [17:44] <MrDodo> well it said an ip just lost connection, im guessing you gulu
#1553 [17:44] <MrDodo> ?
#1554 [17:46] <GuluGulu> oh u saw the connectyion ?
#1555 [17:46] <MrDodo> jaja
#1556 [17:46] <MrDodo> it always shows the connecton, just doesnt work
#1557 [17:47] <MrDodo> yea again
#1558 [17:47] <GuluGulu> what os are u using ?
#1559 [17:47] <MrDodo> 7
#1560 [17:47] <Phonetic> anyone have any ideas why my server has a delay on picking up items, and blocks sometimes respawn half a second after theyre destroyed?
#1561 [17:47] <GuluGulu> sure u have totaly disabled firewall ?
#1562 [17:47] <MrDodo> yepers
#1563 [17:47] <Dominus> Phonetic: Could be the internet connection..
#1564 [17:47] <Dominus> Phonetic: Where's your server hosted?
#1565 [17:47] <MrDodo> ages ago and i checked it to be sure
#1566 [17:48] <MrDodo> i hate firewall
#1567 [17:48] <Phonetic> hosted on another pc in my house
#1568 [17:48] <Dominus> Firewall is a good thing..
#1569 [17:48] <GuluGulu> have you try to delete the server and it's files and try run it again?
#1570 [17:48] <MrDodo> yea..
#1571 [17:48] <MrDodo> ill do that again...
#1572 [17:49] <GuluGulu> any chance you have any antivirues like norton antivirus mcaffy etc ?
#1573 [17:49] <MrDodo> avira
#1574 [17:49] <Dominus> Phonetic: My best guess would be either your internet connection, or the host computer not being able to run the server smoothly.
#1575 [17:49] <GuluGulu> try close it
#1576 [17:49] <GuluGulu> close navira and then start a new server
#1577 [17:50] <MrDodo> lol i dont even know how to close that.. :P
#1578 [17:51] <GuluGulu> try from task manager
#1579 [17:52] <MrDodo> yea just wait
#1580 [17:52] <MrDodo> 1 sec
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#1582 [17:53] <MrDodo> alrighty i did that and im tryin
#1583 [17:53] <MrDodo> to create
#1584 [17:53] <MrDodo> preparing spawn
#1585 [17:54] <MrDodo> nup still dont work
#1586 [17:54] <GuluGulu> what does it says on server side when somone connects ?
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#1588 [17:55] <MrDodo> well i fyou try i can show what it said for you
#1589 [17:55] <MrDodo> or
#1590 [17:55] <MrDodo> [INFO] /192.168.1.254:60737 lost connection
#1591 [17:55] <MrDodo> for me
#1592 [17:55] <MrDodo> coz local
#1593 [17:55] <GuluGulu> kk
#1594 [17:55] <GuluGulu> nothing special then
#1595 [17:56] <MrDodo> hm
#1596 [17:56] <GuluGulu> is it a fresh copy of server ?
#1597 [17:56] <GuluGulu> from minecraft offical site ?
#1598 [17:56] <GuluGulu> !check 220.253.96.70
#1599 [17:56] <MrDodo> yep
#1600 [17:57] <GuluGulu> hmmmm strange
#1601 [17:57] <MrDodo> i tried hamachi as well and that has the same message
#1602 [17:57] <GuluGulu> do you have full access with the windows account you are loged in now ?
#1603 [17:57] <MrDodo> but with its ip
#1604 [17:57] <MrDodo> yea its my pc
#1605 [17:58] <MrDodo> so yes
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#1610 [18:07] <aetherian> brb, fbi
#1611 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> "Minecraft.net Monthly Report (Jan 2011): 91.49% uptime • 44h 19m downtime • 1536 ms avg response time "
#1612 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Ouch
#1613 [18:09] <Dominus> Wut
#1614 [18:09] <Dominus> That's quite an avarage response time
#1615 [18:09] <Phonetic> ooph, 1536ms
#1616 [18:10] <Dominus> Wait. That just came out wrong. That's a hell of an avarage response time..
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#1618 [18:12] <simonmcc> hello!
#1619 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> Hi!
#1620 [18:12] <Dominus> Hello simonmcc
#1621 [18:12] <Dominus> And bye. Good night everyone
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#1623 [18:12] <simonmcc> question, i have been having tons of issues getting my server to work
#1624 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Night Dominus
#1625 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> simonmcc - Shoot.
#1626 [18:12] <simonmcc> well, i got the server running, that was easy
#1627 [18:13] <simonmcc> opened the port on my router as well as my firewall, but people still can not connect
#1628 [18:13] <simonmcc> i just recently, today, tried a different port and dont know if it works yet
#1629 [18:13] <simonmcc> 5.223.17.233:50500 if anyone would mind trying it
#1630 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> simonmcc: did you not just open the port, but.. wait, 5.?
#1631 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> Are you using hamachi?
#1632 [18:14] <simonmcc> i just started using it
#1633 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> Terrible idea
#1634 [18:14] <simonmcc> yeah?
#1635 [18:14] <MrDodo> i tried hamachi
#1636 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> the 5. address space was just allocated by ICANN, so you'll collide with actual IPs now
#1637 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> IANA rather, not ICANN
#1638 [18:14] <simonmcc> not sure what that means :/
#1639 [18:15] <zucchini> I need some help also. I downloaded minecraft from a gift pass. I had saved it on my external hard drive and wiped my computer do to registry errors. Now i want to download minecraft again from the website and i cant seem to find the place to download it at. I am playing it trough the saved program and it works but i just want to make sure i have all the file
#1640 [18:15] <zucchini> files i need.
#1641 [18:16] <simonmcc> minecraft.net/download or /downloads
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#1643 [18:16] <zucchini> it is saying 404 error
#1644 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> simonmcc: basically, the hamachi system "squats" on a previously unallocated network space; this is no longer the case.
#1645 [18:17] <Dominus> zucchini: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1646 [18:17] <zucchini> Thank you Dominus
#1647 [18:17] <Dominus> zucchini: You're most welcome :)
#1648 [18:19] <simonmcc> I re-routed my minecraft to look at my computer without Hamachi, would someone mind trying to log into my server: 65.30.24.41:50500
#1649 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> !check 65.30.24.41:50500
#1650 [18:20] <simonmcc> ive never had anyone able to connect
#1651 [18:20] <simonmcc> nothin, just said you lost connection
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#1653 [18:21] <simonmcc> i cant log into it unless i use my local ip address to get in
#1654 [18:22] <simonmcc> this is what i get: [INFO] simonmcconico [/65.30.24.41:56696] logged in with entity id 33
#1655 [18:22] <simonmcc> and that is all
#1656 [18:22] <simonmcc> just kinda stalls
#1657 [18:23] <simonmcc> then i get this: [INFO] simonmcconico lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#1658 [18:23] <simonmcc> any ideas Dope?
#1659 [18:25] <simonmcc> [INFO] DopeGhoti [/68.14.228.19:24168] logged in with entity id 36
#1660 [18:25] <simonmcc> [INFO] DopeGhoti lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#1661 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> say Hrm. What flavor of router are you using?
#1662 [18:25] <simonmcc> Netgear
#1663 [18:25] <simonmcc> WGT624-3
#1664 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> argh I have to stop chatting on the MC console. Soon I'll start actually saying "say" to people when I talk at them in meatspace.
#1665 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1666 [18:25] <simonmcc> yo
#1667 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> simonmcc - Security software?
#1668 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> Any particular reason you're using a nonstandart port?
#1669 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> hah @ MC title screen: "12345 is a bad password!"
#1670 [18:26] <simonmcc> I have AVG, but that is it
#1671 [18:26] <xales> DopeGhoti: You already did that :P
#1672 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> AVG, the free version?
#1673 [18:26] <simonmcc> I tried the normal port and couldnt get that to work
#1674 [18:26] <simonmcc> yeah, the free version
#1675 [18:27] <simonmcc> I used the port checker and could never get 25655 (or whatever the normal port is) to be open
#1676 [18:27] <simonmcc> with 50500 the port is open, but still cant connect
#1677 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> Wacky question, but have you rebooted the router lately?
#1678 [18:28] <simonmcc> hmm... like unplugged, plug in, if so, then yes
#1679 [18:28] <simonmcc> well
#1680 [18:28] <simonmcc> maybe not
#1681 [18:28] <simonmcc> i could try that
#1682 [18:29] <simonmcc> ill be back soon... gonna do that
#1683 [18:29] <SkiingPenguins> unplug it for 30 seconds then plug it in
#1684 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> gl
#1685 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> (quick, everyone- move to a new channel before simonmcc gets back! (: )
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#1688 [18:32] <simonmcc> still no dice
#1689 [18:33] <simonmcc> still getting the genericReason disconnect message
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#1691 [18:35] <simonmcc> do you think that it could be the router?
#1692 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> The strange thing is that the port is clearly open and the server and client are conversing
#1693 [18:35] <simonmcc> yeah
#1694 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> it _might_ be.. try connecting the server directly to the internet?
#1695 [18:36] <simonmcc> i can see people trying to log in
#1696 [18:36] <simonmcc> brb
#1697 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Also, NIC brand?
#1698 [18:36] <simonmcc> once sec
#1699 [18:37] <simonmcc> The NIC is on the mother board - Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR114
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#1701 [18:37] <simonmcc> gonna connect to the box directly... brb
#1702 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Yikes, almost betting it won't do you any good.
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#1704 [18:39] <simonmcc168> back
#1705 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> simonmcc168 - I'm betting it's your NIC
#1706 [18:40] <simonmcc168> now im getting a failed to bind to port when i tried to restart the server
#1707 [18:40] <simonmcc168> yeah? could be
#1708 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft/java/windows/atheros have a hate-hate-Hate-HATE relationship
#1709 [18:40] <simonmcc168> ha
#1710 [18:40] <simonmcc168> hmm
#1711 [18:40] <simonmcc168> what kind of card would you recomend?
#1712 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> If you have a spare NIC, or if there's any way you can host on a different machine..
#1713 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Anything that's not atheros.
#1714 [18:41] <simonmcc168> ah
#1715 [18:41] <simonmcc168> i have a box in my basement, but it is set up odd, its a freenas box so i dont know that i can run minecraft on that
#1716 [18:42] <simonmcc168> but it might have a nic card on it... might just be the mother board though
#1717 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> If it's got a NIC on it, you might be able to salvage it.
#1718 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> (Also, small pet peeve, NIC card is redundant.)
#1719 [18:44] <simonmcc168> gonna check out box in the basement to see if there is a card or not
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#1724 [18:48] <simonmcc> yeah, the box has no card, the mother board has the card
#1725 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Dang.
#1726 [18:49] <simonmcc> eyah
#1727 [18:49] <simonmcc> yeah :/
#1728 [18:49] <simonmcc> if it wasnt freenas it would work great
#1729 [18:49] <aetherian> this is creepy
#1730 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Usually the symptom of a atheros card is to give end of stream or that.. other error I can't think of right now
#1731 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Has to do with transmit/receive buffers.
#1732 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Very recently, you see atheros NICs not even accepting connections, with the genericReason disconnect
#1733 [18:50] <simonmcc> yeah, i get that all the time
#1734 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> No clue why, I just chalk it up to atheros being crappy
#1735 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, that really doesn't help you any. Atheros and minecraft haven't gotten along since the beginning.
#1736 [18:51] <simonmcc> yeah
#1737 [18:51] <simonmcc> guess ill just try to get a new card. Not the biggest deal in the world
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#1739 [18:54] <simonmcc> hmm... looking at a forum from Mojang and says that Hamachi should work
#1740 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Doubtful.. and setting up hamachi's a bit of a pain, especially since everybody who wants to connect to your server, needs to have hamachi as well
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#1742 [18:54] <simonmcc> really?
#1743 [18:55] * GreyVulpine nods
#1743 [18:55] <simonmcc> that is annoying
#1744 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> As that's how hamachi works, as a VPN
#1745 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> Not only that, but Hamachi is no longer using unallocated space, so you may collide with actual IP addresses now
#1746 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Oh really...
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#1748 [18:55] <simonmcc> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/cannot_host_smp_with_a_spesific_os_component_combination
#1749 [18:55] <simonmcc> yeah
#1750 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> 5/8's allocated now?
#1751 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> yep
#1752 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Man..
#1753 [18:56] <simonmcc> any recomendations on a card to get?
#1754 [18:56] <simonmcc> will probably pick one up tonight
#1755 [18:56] <MrDodo> a good one
#1756 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> simonmcc: 3Com?
#1757 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> Cisco (not Linksys)?
#1758 [18:57] <simonmcc> hmm... I could host it on my laptop though
#1759 [18:58] <simonmcc> if that works then it is for sure the card
#1760 [18:58] <xales> GreyVulpine: \o/
#1761 [18:58] <xales> Downfall of Hamachi incoming
#1762 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> About freakin time.
#1763 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> no kidding
#1764 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> logmein is great, but hamachi needs to die a thousand deaths. But only after MSSQL server does first.
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#1767 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> What is it with all the ping timeouts. Do no IRC clients know how to terminate an INET socket anymore?
#1768 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Blame esper
#1769 [19:02] * DopeGhoti blankes ester. And also Canada.
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#1770 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> erm, blames.
#1771 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> Greetings, Count Nameless of some unspecified county! How can #MineCraftHelp help you today?
#1772 [19:03] <Mikauk> If you don't type in a port when connecting to a Minecraft server, does it automatically try to connect through port 25565?
#1773 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> yes.
#1774 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> (that's sort of the idea of a default port)
#1775 [19:04] <Mikauk> :(
#1776 [19:04] <Mikauk> 25565 is a terrible default port though
#1777 [19:04] <xales> Nothing is assigned to 25565
#1778 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> ..why? It's no better or worse than 25564 or 25567
#1779 [19:04] <xales> so it is an excellent default
#1780 [19:04] <Mikauk> Because I said so!
#1781 [19:05] <xales> :<
#1782 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> Well, I say otherwise, and I have a magic +. So nyah.
#1783 [19:05] <xales> Not any more!
#1784 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1785 [19:05] <xales> :<
#1786 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#1787 [19:05] <aetherian> O_O
#1788 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> My magic +; it blinks! (:
#1789 [19:06] <xales> hax
#1790 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> gesundheit.
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#1792 [19:09] <Mikauk> In the server.properties is auto-heal a minecraft thing, or an hMod thing
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#1794 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> If you turn off all monster spawns, it turns the server to peaceful mode... and turns on healing
#1795 [19:11] <simonmcc> question, I got the FAILED TO BIND TO PORT - how do I fix that? get that every now and again
#1796 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> simonmcc: that usually means something else on your computer is using the port you're trying to assign the Minecraft server.
#1797 [19:12] <simonmcc> hmm
#1798 [19:12] <simonmcc> k
#1799 [19:13] <Wahrheit> xales: everything is perfect
#1800 [19:13] <Wahrheit> xales: you a bro
#1801 [19:13] <xales> :) no problem
#1802 [19:16] <MrDodo> bahaha
#1803 [19:16] <MrDodo> hah
#1804 [19:16] <MrDodo> eh...
#1805 [19:16] <xales> ?
#1806 [19:16] <simonmcc> tried to set up the server on my laptop, got everything set up, firewall and port forwarding set up and cant connect
#1807 [19:16] <MrDodo> apparently my issue is only real to the people who have it
#1808 [19:16] <xales> simonmcc: What error do you get?
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#1810 [19:16] <Jackson413> hi dudes
#1811 [19:16] <xales> ello
#1812 [19:17] <MrDodo> and to everyone else its 'forward your ports' or 'disable your firewall'
#1813 [19:17] <Jackson413> can anyone walk me through using minecraft overviewer?
#1814 [19:18] <xales> Jackson413: Not really, we don't support third party programs or mods. Also, I don't think anyone here uses it. Sorry :(
#1815 [19:18] <Jackson413> damnut
#1816 [19:18] <Jackson413> damnit
#1817 [19:18] <Mikauk> damoot
#1818 [19:18] <Jackson413> any idears on where i can find someone that does?
#1819 [19:18] <MrDodo> dang..
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#1821 [19:18] <MrDodo> lawled
#1822 [19:18] <Mikauk> dag nabbig
#1823 [19:18] <Mikauk> dag nabbit
#1824 [19:19] <MrDodo> rig boggit
#1825 [19:19] <MrDodo> dunno..
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#1831 [19:25] <chesser45> my server is pissing me off ...... no one can connect...... help?????
#1832 [19:26] <MrDodo> what os
#1833 [19:26] <MrDodo> chesser45: what os are you using
#1834 [19:26] <chesser45> vista
#1835 [19:28] <Wahrheit> lol
#1836 [19:28] <chesser45> ikr
#1837 [19:28] <Wahrheit> chesser45: port forwarded?
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#1840 [19:35] <Jackson413> hey kealper
#1841 [19:35] <Jackson413> you here?
#1842 [19:36] <xales> chesser45: you there?
#1843 [19:36] <xales> Jackson413: why do you need Kealper?
#1844 [19:37] <Jackson413> i think he could help me with overviewer
#1845 [19:37] <xales> I don't think he has used it
#1846 [19:37] <xales> anyway, i'll brb in a sec
#1847 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> I use Overviewer; what are you having problems with?
#1848 [19:40] <Jackson413> i want to set it up
#1849 [19:40] <Jackson413> and i have no idea how to
#1850 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> right, so.. download and extract.. there's nothing to _install_
#1851 [19:40] <MrDodo> doh!
#1852 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> it's a program; you run it.
#1853 [19:41] <Jackson413> i thot you had to screw around in the command prompt
#1854 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> if by 'screw around', you mean 'run the program', then yes.
#1855 [19:41] <GuluGulu> need to work on that viewer mysel
#1856 [19:41] <GuluGulu> f
#1857 [19:41] <Jackson413> hold on then
#1858 [19:41] <Jackson413> do i need anything to run it?
#1859 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> Python.
#1860 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> (why are you asking me this; it should be made pretty clear wherever you're getting it from)
#1861 [19:43] <Jackson413> lol
#1862 [19:43] <Jackson413> idk
#1863 [19:44] <Jackson413> anything about this
#1864 [19:44] <Jackson413> and yet i wanna use it
#1865 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> Please stop using the Enter key as a comma. If you want to use the program, and you're not sure about certain things the program needs, you should learn about these things first, then.
#1866 [19:44] <chesser45> sorry
#1867 [19:45] <chesser45> got it
#1868 [19:45] <chesser45> stupid ip kept changigng
#1869 [19:48] <Jackson413> ok i did it
#1870 [19:48] <Jackson413> but i clicked the exe there was a command prompt and it went away
#1871 [19:48] <xales> Did you follow the instructions from where you downloaded it?
#1872 [19:49] <xales> Specifically the one about installing Python
#1873 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> my guess: "No". Or, "instructions?"
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#1875 [19:49] <Jackson413> yes and yes
#1876 [19:49] <Jackson413> i did
#1877 [19:49] <xales> Did you follow all of the instructions?
#1878 [19:50] <statik> xales: i moved my server to a new computer may i hit the bot once?
#1879 [19:50] <Jackson413> yes i think i did
#1880 [19:50] <Jackson413> i installed all the stuff i needed
#1881 [19:50] <xales> statik: If you actually need it, and aren't just using it for the sake of using it, feel free to use it.
#1882 [19:50] <statik> !check
#1883 [19:50] <statik> k good
#1884 [19:51] <Jackson413> wait no
#1885 [19:51] <Jackson413> i dont think so now
#1886 [19:51] <statik> moved the server to a lap i have here with a broken screen
#1887 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> I am DopeGhoti's complete lack of surprise.
#1888 [19:51] <Jackson413> well no i installed everything
#1889 [19:52] <Jackson413> except this
#1890 [19:52] <Jackson413> i downloaded it and i dont know to intall it
#1891 [19:52] <xales> Do you expect us to magically know how to install it, given our knowledge of exactly what it is, and where you downloaded it from?
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#1893 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> The place from which you downloaded it will have these neat things called "Instructions" which you will "read", and, once having done so, you will "know" how to install it.
#1894 [19:53] <Jackson413> well
#1895 [19:53] <Jackson413> no it doesnt
#1896 [19:53] <Jackson413> it has files you need to download
#1897 [19:53] <xales> Did you look or try googling "(name) install"?
#1898 [19:53] <Jackson413> which i did
#1899 [19:53] <xales> ._.
#1900 [19:53] <Jackson413> yes
#1901 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> is one of the files, by any chance named "README"?
#1902 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> specifically, 'README.rst'?
#1903 [19:54] <Jackson413> yes
#1904 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> follow the directions on the tin, and READ it.
#1905 [19:54] <Jackson413> how do i do this?
#1906 [19:54] <Jackson413> To generate a set of Google Map tiles, use the gmap.py script like this::
#1907 [19:55] <Jackson413> python gmap.py [OPTIONS] <World Number / Path to World> <Output Directory>
#1908 [19:55] <Jackson413> The output directory will be created if it doesn't exist. This will generate a
#1909 [19:55] <Jackson413> set of image tiles for your world in the directory you choose. When it's done,
#1910 [19:55] <Jackson413> you will find an index.html file in the same directory that you can use to view
#1911 [19:55] <Jackson413> it.
#1912 [19:55] <Jackson413> well that didnt work out
#1913 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> !kick Jackson413 don't spam
#1914 [19:55] <xales> DopeGhoti: Gotta use chanserv now
#1915 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> xales: oh? *sigh*.
#1916 [19:55] <Jackson413> i thot it would post it as one
#1917 [19:55] <xales> /msg chanserv kick #minecrafthelp Jackson413 Don't spam
#1918 [19:55] <xales> :P
#1919 [19:55] <xales> Jackson413: You thot wrong
#1920 [19:55] <Jackson413> i did
#1921 [19:55] <Jackson413> most certainly
#1922 [19:56] <xales> Now, do you expect us to help give you the magic solution for all problems, or are you going to tell us why it doesn't work
#1923 [19:56] <Jackson413> http://pastebin.com/rseks9KW
#1924 [19:56] <Jackson413> and im not sure why it doesnt work
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#1927 [19:57] <xales> ...Can you try explaining what it does that it isn't supposed to?
#1928 [19:57] <Jackson413> there is something called python imaging library that i need to install
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#1930 [19:57] <Jackson413> i have it downloaded
#1931 [19:57] <Lampshade> Guys?
#1932 [19:57] <xales> Lampshade: ?
#1933 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> hi, Lampshade!
#1934 [19:57] <Jackson413> but i do not know how to implement it
#1935 [19:57] <Lampshade> Who missed me?
#1936 [19:58] <xales> Jackson413: There is also this thing called 'Instructions' and 'Google'
#1937 [19:58] <relsqui> Jackson413: by implement do you mean run?
#1938 [19:58] <Lampshade> Do I know you Dope?
#1939 [19:58] <Jackson413> yes
#1940 [19:58] <Jackson413> yes
#1941 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: learn how to install Py libraries on your own computer. this is outside the scope of #MineCraftHelp.
#1942 [19:58] <relsqui> Jackson413: it seems like the thing you pasted just now answers that question
#1943 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> Lampshade: I don't know; do you?
#1944 [19:58] <Jackson413> oh
#1945 [19:58] <Lampshade> You shouldn't
#1946 [19:58] <Jackson413> well brb till i get this
#1947 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> Lampshade: does that mean I'm not allowd to offer salutations when you /join #MineCraftHelp?
#1948 [19:59] <Lampshade> Oh, no
#1949 [19:59] <Lampshade> It was sarcasm
#1950 [19:59] <Lampshade> Actually, I need some help
#1951 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> Well, you've come to the right place.
#1952 [19:59] <Lampshade> My favorite server is temporarily down
#1953 [19:59] <Lampshade> I need a new server to go to
#1954 [20:00] <xales> http://mcserverlist.net/
#1955 [20:00] <Lampshade> Any suggestions?
#1956 [20:00] * DopeGhoti points up two lines.
#1956 [20:00] <Lampshade> Bahh, I see that
#1957 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> I've heard good things about chaos.nerd.ru
#1958 [20:01] * xales points down 11,982 lines where DopeGhoti will be helping soemebody
#1958 [20:01] <Lampshade> Hmm, weird
#1959 [20:02] <Lampshade> I can't exaclty see the "Theese are Good server" Menu
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#1961 [20:02] <xales> Such a thing exists?
#1962 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> xales: Mark this point in your log. If I'm helping soneone in 11,975 lines or so, I want a pony.
#1963 [20:02] <Lampshade> I do hope
#1964 [20:02] <xales> DopeGhoti: No problem!
#1965 [20:03] <xales> DopeGhoti: Here is a picture of your pony | |===o
#1966 [20:03] <xales> it doesn't look very good, but its a shitty camera!
#1967 [20:03] <statik> I need to kill X on the server but then how do i access it via remote desktop?
#1968 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> that looks more like a broken redstone torch.
#1969 [20:03] <xales> statik: You don't run X Windows on a server.
#1970 [20:03] <relsqui> heh
#1971 [20:03] <xales> statik: That is how.
#1972 [20:04] <xales> DopeGhoti: It is obviously a pony in a stable :<
#1973 [20:04] <relsqui> I haven't played on a server not run by someone I know. what kind of social norms do you tend to see, or is there a lot of variety between servers? (things like attacking/messing with other players, competing for resources, group organization, etc.)
#1974 [20:04] <xales> statik: You also don't use "Remote Desktop" to access a server
#1975 [20:04] <statik> Right, but this in on a lap with a broken screen i just need to have remote access to the terminal.
#1976 [20:05] <xales> relsqui: It depends on the server, but you generally see some organization
#1977 [20:05] <xales> statik: That is called SSH. You should not use anything but SSH to access a server in any circumstance.
#1978 [20:05] <relsqui> (hello from an ssh session!)
#1979 [20:05] <xales> (ssh buddy!)
#1980 [20:05] <Jackson413> ok i think i did everything and it still wont work
#1981 [20:06] <statik> xales: Thanks thats what i needed to hear i'll get on the google product and see how to do that.
#1982 [20:06] <Jackson413> i even installed the python library
#1983 [20:06] <xales> Jackson413: Well, here is this magic fix for that problem
#1984 [20:06] <Jackson413> wait im not done yet
#1985 [20:07] <Jackson413> the error it is giving me is "could not find the file fire.png. Is minecraft installed? If s, I couldnt find the minecraft.jar file
#1986 [20:07] <xales> Anyway, I was going to take a shower. I am going to do this now. I have little experience with Python on Windows, and DopeGhoti is capable of helping.
#1987 [20:07] <xales> Also, that sounds like you failed to follow the instructions. Anyhow, I'm off
#1988 [20:08] <Jackson413> i followed them
#1989 [20:08] <Jackson413> im pretty certain
#1990 [20:09] <statik> Wow, going from a 3.2ghz with out X to a 2.0ghz with X is pretty rude. :P
#1991 [20:11] <Jackson413> oh wait i downloaded a wrong file for the pil i think
#1992 [20:13] <Jackson413> no that didnt solve anything either
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#1994 [20:15] <nipper> http://i.imgur.com/Cbpes.jpg
#1995 [20:16] <relsqui> nipper: awesome.
#1996 [20:16] <Jackson413> dang
#1997 [20:16] <nipper> haha
#1998 [20:16] <nipper> Did not know thye knew math.
#1999 [20:16] <Jackson413> hey can anyone tell if they can download this file
#2000 [20:16] <Jackson413> i just wanna know if this is me or not
#2001 [20:16] <Jackson413> https://github.com/brownan/Minecraft-Overviewer/zipball/master
#2002 [20:16] <Jackson413> dont download it
#2003 [20:17] <Jackson413> just tell me if it asks you to give it permission to download it
#2004 [20:18] <relsqui> slowding
#2005 [20:18] <relsqui> what is the thing you're trying to install, anyway? I came in late
#2006 [20:18] * relsqui reads about it
#2006 [20:19] <Jackson413> lol
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#2008 [20:19] <jordonias> hello
#2009 [20:19] <Jackson413> anyone that can help me is amazing
#2010 [20:19] <Jackson413> and hi
#2011 [20:19] <jordonias> how do i register my nick on the main Minecraft irc?
#2012 [20:19] <Jackson413> ./ns help
#2013 [20:19] <jordonias> it wont let me talk
#2014 [20:19] <jordonias> it didnt work
#2015 [20:20] <Jackson413> ./ns register
#2016 [20:20] <jordonias> didnt work
#2017 [20:20] <Jackson413> pm me
#2018 [20:20] <relsqui> /msg nickserv help register
#2019 [20:20] <relsqui> not all clients support /ns
#2020 [20:20] <jordonias> that didnt work either
#2021 [20:20] <relsqui> when you say "that didn't work," what *happened*?
#2022 [20:20] <jordonias> nothing
#2023 [20:20] <jordonias> dindt say a thing
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#2025 [20:20] <jordonias> was just blank
#2026 [20:20] <Jackson413> ill help him
#2027 [20:20] <relsqui> kay
#2028 [20:20] <Jackson413> cause i can do this
#2029 [20:20] <jordonias> i use irssi
#2030 [20:21] <Jackson413> pm me
#2031 [20:21] <relsqui> fwiw, it worked for me in irssi on this server just now
#2032 [20:21] <Jackson413> lol
#2033 [20:21] <relsqui> thanks for reminding me to register my nick :P
#2034 [20:21] <Jackson413> chatzilla is clearly superior to all your pathetic clients
#2035 [20:21] <Jackson413> lol
#2036 [20:21] <Jackson413> jordonias are you still in need of help?
#2037 [20:22] <relsqui> Jackson413: I got a timeout trying ot load your link earlier
#2038 [20:22] <Jackson413> yeah same here
#2039 [20:22] <Jackson413> i guess it isnt me
#2040 [20:22] <Jackson413> which im kind of glad kind of sad
#2041 [20:22] <relsqui> also it seemed interesting so I shot the link to my friend who runs the server I use
#2042 [20:22] <Jackson413> yeah same here
#2043 [20:23] <Jackson413> i saw it being implemented here
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#2045 [20:23] <Jackson413> http://www.godslam.net/map
#2046 [20:23] <Jackson413> it is cool
#2047 [20:23] <jordonias> sry who was trying to help me
#2048 [20:23] <relsqui> jordonias: just do it in open channel
#2049 [20:23] <Jackson413> lol
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#2051 [20:23] <Jackson413> what happened
#2052 [20:23] <relsqui> jordonias: can you get any response from nickserv at all on this network?
#2053 [20:23] <Criminal0> which is the best chatroom for server help ?
#2054 [20:23] <Jackson413> here
#2055 [20:23] <jordonias> no i cant relsqui
#2056 [20:23] <Jackson413> ill help you if i can
#2057 [20:23] <Criminal0> my server is lagged to all users and commands and users are getting "disconnect.overflow" ... thoughts ?
#2058 [20:24] <Jackson413> do a speedtest
#2059 [20:24] <relsqui> jordonias: and you're not misspelling it or anything? odd
#2060 [20:24] <Jackson413> http://www.speedtest.net
#2061 [20:24] <jordonias> not mispelling
#2062 [20:24] <Jackson413> jordonias try a diff client to register
#2063 [20:24] <relsqui> this might be a job for the network's help channel
#2064 [20:24] <Criminal0> my connection is fine, my computer is a beast, its hardly using any cpu
#2065 [20:25] <jordonias> it wont let me pm either btw
#2066 [20:25] <relsqui> er, well, that'd be the same problem then
#2067 [20:25] <Jackson413> hmm
#2068 [20:25] <Jackson413> what server mod are you running
#2069 [20:25] <relsqui> when you say "won't let me," again, what exactly are you trying and what happens?
#2070 [20:25] <jordonias> it does nothing
#2071 [20:25] <Jackson413> pm me criminal
#2072 [20:25] <relsqui> Jackson413: why are you trying to help people in PM?
#2073 [20:25] <Criminal0> casue he is hacking me ;)
#2074 [20:25] <relsqui> Jackson413: it's more useful to do it in open channel so that if someone else comes in with the same problem later other people will have already seen a discussion about it
#2075 [20:26] <Jackson413> cause it clogs the chat here
#2076 [20:26] <Jackson413> ok
#2077 [20:26] <relsqui> help is what the chat is *for*
#2078 [20:26] <Jackson413> well i chat in a way that makes it spamm
#2079 [20:26] <relsqui> Jackson413: you could try not doing that
#2080 [20:26] <relsqui> jordonias: please be specific. what exactly do you type when you want to pm someone?
#2081 [20:26] <relsqui> jordonias: it is impossible for anyone else to judge what might be wrong without you telling us that :p
#2082 [20:27] <jordonias> i type /pm Jackson413 hello
#2083 [20:27] <Jackson413> lol
#2084 [20:27] <relsqui> there's your problem.
#2085 [20:27] <Jackson413> you use /msg
#2086 [20:27] <Jackson413> right?
#2087 [20:27] <relsqui> /pm is not an irssi command.
#2088 [20:27] <relsqui> /msg and /query are
#2089 [20:27] <relsqui> the one you want in this case is /msg
#2090 [20:27] <Jackson413> i never thot pm was any client
#2091 [20:27] <relsqui> *all* commands you type into your client are interpreted by the client
#2092 [20:28] <relsqui> unless you're using telnet for irc
#2093 [20:28] <relsqui> nothing is inherent to the protocol
#2094 [20:28] <relsqui> this is why I said to type /msg nickserv help register
#2095 [20:28] <relsqui> which you said you did, and it didn't work
#2096 [20:28] <Criminal0> Jackson413: i am 2m up , 50m down, the server is useing nothing for resources
#2097 [20:28] <relsqui> would you like to revise that statement?
#2098 [20:28] <Jackson413> criminal have you run a server before?
#2099 [20:29] <Jackson413> and also how much ram are you starting your server with?
#2100 [20:29] <Criminal0> Jackson413: no, my firend zipped his, and asked me to host it. it was running error free on at his house
#2101 [20:29] <Jackson413> well
#2102 [20:30] <Jackson413> can you give me your upload speed?
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#2104 [20:30] <Criminal0> i am running it simply by double clicking the program (gui)
#2105 [20:30] <Jackson413> http://speedtest.net
#2106 [20:30] <jordonias> i figured it out
#2107 [20:30] <Jackson413> and that may be part of your problem
#2108 [20:30] <cobraphantom> anyway to serverside mod tnt expostion radius?
#2109 [20:30] <cobraphantom> explosion*
#2110 [20:30] <Jackson413> tnt ftw
#2111 [20:30] <Jackson413> lol
#2112 [20:30] <Criminal0> Jackson413: i am 2m upload, and bout 50 down. my connection is fine.
#2113 [20:31] <Jackson413> hmmm
#2114 [20:31] <Criminal0> i wonder if its a windows 7 thing?
#2115 [20:31] <Jackson413> criminal i dont think you are running your server with enough ram
#2116 [20:31] <Jackson413> i dont think so
#2117 [20:31] <Jackson413> cause i have run it on win7
#2118 [20:31] <Criminal0> Jackson413: perhaps i should mod the command line ?
#2119 [20:31] <Jackson413> but then i came to my senses and redownloaded xp cause it uses less resources lol
#2120 [20:31] <Jackson413> make a batch file
#2121 [20:32] <Jackson413> you know how to?
#2122 [20:32] <cobraphantom> can anyone help with a modding question?
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#2124 [20:32] <Jackson413> possibly
#2125 [20:32] <Criminal0> Jackson413: version Beta 1.2_01 is the newest .. rite ?
#2126 [20:32] <Jackson413> criminal?
#2127 [20:32] <Jackson413> uh not sure
#2128 [20:32] <Jackson413> dnt keep track
#2129 [20:32] <Jackson413> hold on
#2130 [20:32] <xales> It is
#2131 [20:33] <Jackson413> 1.2_02
#2132 [20:33] <Jackson413> is the newest
#2133 [20:33] <xales> No, that is the newest client
#2134 [20:33] <Jackson413> criminal how much ram do you have
#2135 [20:33] <Jackson413> oh yeah
#2136 [20:33] <xales> the newest server is _01
#2137 [20:33] <Criminal0> is there a way i can force the server update?
#2138 [20:33] <Jackson413> ok
#2139 [20:33] <Criminal0> cool
#2140 [20:33] <jordonias> Jackson413: thx btw
#2141 [20:34] <Jackson413> just redownload the server?
#2142 [20:34] <xales> Criminal0: All server updates are done manually, by the way
#2143 [20:34] <xales> Anyway, you are using the latest version.
#2144 [20:34] <Jackson413> yeah
#2145 [20:34] <Criminal0> xales: coolio
#2146 [20:34] <jordonias> any of u have servers running?
#2147 [20:34] <Jackson413> do me a favour and do flagbutton+pausebreak
#2148 [20:34] <xales> cobraphantom: Go to #bukkit for that
#2149 [20:34] <Jackson413> tell me how much ram you have
#2150 [20:34] <xales> jordonias: Why?
#2151 [20:34] <Jackson413> criminal
#2152 [20:35] <jordonias> xales: i want to play
#2153 [20:35] <Criminal0> ohh ballsack .. wife aggro
#2154 [20:35] <Jackson413> ??
#2155 [20:35] <xales> jordonias: http://minestatus.net/
#2156 [20:35] <Criminal0> \ill have to come back later
#2157 [20:35] <Jackson413> agrro?
#2158 [20:35] <Criminal0> \
#2159 [20:35] <Criminal0> she be mad ..
#2160 [20:35] <Criminal0> thx all ..
#2161 [20:35] <Criminal0> :)
#2162 [20:35] <jordonias> xales: i appled for some but they take for ages
#2163 [20:35] <xales> jordonias: Then play on one that isn't whitelisted.
#2164 [20:36] <jordonias> xalse : they are all bad, i found a few and they are all 12 year old kids
#2165 [20:36] <Jackson413> jordonias you may play on mine as long as you do not grief
#2166 [20:36] <jordonias> oops* mispelt your name
#2167 [20:36] <relsqui> heh.
#2168 [20:36] <xales> jordonias: The tab key. Learn it.
#2169 [20:36] <xales> x-a-<TAB>
#2170 [20:36] <jordonias> Jackson413: nah i just wanna build some stuff, ive only really played on my server, starting to try out other servers now
#2171 [20:36] <relsqui> heh
#2172 [20:36] <relsqui> we were all new once. :)
#2173 [20:37] <jordonias> i dont get it
#2174 [20:37] <Jackson413> jordonias yeah dude
#2175 [20:37] <Jackson413> try it
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#2177 [20:37] <Jackson413> ill pm it to you in respect for not advertising my server here
#2178 [20:37] <CoyoteBongwater> Vulpine: Im Back with new problems!
#2179 [20:37] <jordonias> what does the tab do
#2180 [20:37] <CoyoteBongwater> Xales!
#2181 [20:37] <xales> ?
#2182 [20:37] <xales> jordonias: Tab completion.
#2183 [20:37] <relsqui> jordonias: on a new input line in irssi, type xa and then tab
#2184 [20:38] <jordonias> oh cute
#2185 [20:38] <Jackson413> well what do you know i just learnt sumthin lol
#2186 [20:38] <jordonias> i like that
#2187 [20:38] <relsqui> also. it's official: my minecraft house is big enough/laid out weirdly enough that I can actually get lost in it
#2188 [20:38] <jordonias> Jackson413: noice
#2189 [20:38] <Jackson413> -1 np
#2190 [20:38] <relsqui> jordonias: yeah, that's how everyone else types each others' nicks so fast without fucking up ;)
#2191 [20:38] <Jackson413> np=noob point
#2192 [20:38] <Jackson413> lol sweet
#2193 [20:39] <CoyoteBongwater> Xales! I need help!
#2194 [20:39] <xales> With?
#2195 [20:40] <relsqui> okay. if I've done this properly, I should be able to ride this ground-level exterior cart rail at night safely
#2196 [20:40] <relsqui> say it with me now: bahahahaha
#2197 [20:40] * relsqui goes to test
#2197 [20:40] <CoyoteBongwater> Having people connect to my mp game.
#2198 [20:41] <jordonias> what does mp mean
#2199 [20:41] <xales> Multiplayer, I would assume
#2200 [20:41] <CoyoteBongwater> Multiplayer?
#2201 [20:41] <xales> CoyoteBongwater: Beta, or Classic?
#2202 [20:41] <jordonias> oh ok i see
#2203 [20:41] <CoyoteBongwater> Beta.
#2204 [20:41] <xales> CoyoteBongwater: What is the problem?
#2205 [20:41] <relsqui> ... hey, that worked.
#2206 [20:41] <CoyoteBongwater> When my friend trys to join. It will say connection timed out.
#2207 [20:42] <xales> CoyoteBongwater: What IP is typing in the box to connect?
#2208 [20:42] <relsqui> .... ah. there is a hole. a cow got in. :P
#2209 [20:43] <relsqui> oh shit so did a zombie. how did you get here?
#2210 [20:43] <CoyoteBongwater> Mine own.
#2211 [20:44] <xales> CoyoteBongwater: Which is?
#2212 [20:45] <CoyoteBongwater> 192.168.1.103
#2213 [20:45] <xales> That is your internal IP address
#2214 [20:45] <xales> It only works if he is on the same network with you
#2215 [20:45] <xales> You need to give him the IP from http://whatismyip.com/
#2216 [20:45] <CoyoteBongwater> Ok.
#2217 [20:46] <xales> You also need to port forward - did you do that?
#2218 [20:47] <SinZ> xales, when i start my server it works fine, but when anyone joins, it decides to turn off
#2219 [20:47] <SinZ> (including me)
#2220 [20:47] <xales> SinZ: Any mods?
#2221 [20:47] <SinZ> bukkit
#2222 [20:47] <xales> is there any error/crash?
#2223 [20:48] <SinZ> nup,
#2224 [20:48] <SinZ> it just does "stop"
#2225 [20:48] <SinZ> so Stopping server, Saving chunks
#2226 [20:48] <xales> Sounds like Bukkit doing it to me
#2227 [20:48] <SinZ> hmm
#2228 [20:48] <SinZ> ima try a dif map
#2229 [20:48] <xales> or a Bukkit plugin
#2230 [20:49] <SinZ> it was doing it when i had no plugins
#2231 [20:49] <xales> Could be the map I suppose, or just Bukkit itself being stupid
#2232 [20:49] <AndrewPH> does it do it when you disable bukkit?
#2233 [20:49] <SinZ> aww, map was corrupted
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#2235 [20:51] <vaultak101> hello
#2236 [20:51] <vaultak101> #butt
#2237 [20:52] <vaultak101> will someone give access to #bukkit?
#2238 [20:52] <xales> vaultak101: Do you need help with something?
#2239 [20:52] <xales> You aren't "given access"
#2240 [20:52] <vaultak101> ok
#2241 [20:52] <SinZ> ?
#2242 [20:52] <AndrewPH> I am interested in butt
#2243 [20:52] <vaultak101> ...
#2244 [20:52] <vaultak101> does anyone know good hosting server provider?
#2245 [20:53] <SinZ> x10vps =D
#2246 [20:53] <vaultak101> i'm using Xenonserver now, and it's really bad
#2247 [20:53] <xales> you have to register your name to talk
#2248 [20:53] <xales> actually, no
#2249 [20:53] <xales> you don't even need to do that
#2250 [20:53] <xales> you just join the channel...
#2251 [20:53] <vaultak101> I think I registred
#2252 [20:53] <vaultak101> in this morning
#2253 [20:53] <xales> it doesn't even matter. all you have to do is join the channel.
#2254 [20:53] <xales> /join #bukkit
#2255 [20:54] <vaultak101> does anyone know good hosting site?
#2256 [20:54] <vaultak101> Xenonserver sucks..
#2257 [20:54] <vaultak101> won't even let me join my own server..
#2258 [20:55] <vaultak101> keep redirecting to somewehre else..
#2259 [20:55] <Jackson413> bluehost
#2260 [20:55] <Jackson413> oh you mean minecraft servers?
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#2262 [20:55] <vaultak101> yeah
#2263 [20:55] <jordonias> eww not bluehost
#2264 [20:55] <Jackson413> multiplay
#2265 [20:55] <Jackson413> bluehost is cool
#2266 [20:55] <jordonias> go with gigenet cloud hosting
#2267 [20:55] <Jackson413> i use ipage
#2268 [20:55] <Jackson413> im too poor for a rich person solution
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#2270 [20:56] <Jackson413> $30 for a year
#2271 [20:56] <vaultak101> that's sweet
#2272 [20:56] <jordonias> for webhosting?
#2273 [20:56] <Jackson413> multiplay is a good mc host
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#2275 [20:56] <Jackson413> ipage.com is a nice cheap webhost
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#2277 [20:56] <mbentley> i just pay for fast internet & run my own server
#2278 [20:56] <Jackson413> lol
#2279 [20:57] <vaultak101> well, i'm in dorm, so yeah.
#2280 [20:57] <jordonias> yeah thats my problem too
#2281 [20:57] <Jackson413> i wanna host it in my school
#2282 [20:57] <mbentley> then you should have fast internet :D
#2283 [20:57] <Jackson413> they have 150 download
#2284 [20:57] <vaultak101> i have fast internet
#2285 [20:57] <jordonias> school wont let you host servers
#2286 [20:57] <Jackson413> and 50 upload
#2287 [20:57] <mbentley> or do you not get public ip addresses?
#2288 [20:57] <vaultak101> but i just can't set up the server
#2289 [20:57] <vaultak101> massive router...
#2290 [20:57] <Jackson413> yea but id love to be able to
#2291 [20:57] <vaultak101> won't let me do port forwarding
#2292 [20:57] <jordonias> mbentley: no u dont
#2293 [20:58] <mbentley> ah, when i was at purdue, we got our own public ip addresses
#2294 [20:58] <Kealper> wow
#2295 [20:58] <Jackson413> lol
#2296 [20:58] <Kealper> i take it it costs a pretty penny to go there? lol
#2297 [20:58] <Jackson413> that is sweet
#2298 [20:58] <Jackson413> lol
#2299 [20:58] <Jackson413> hey kealper
#2300 [20:58] <mbentley> Kealper: not really
#2301 [20:58] <Jackson413> you gonna be on for a while?
#2302 [20:58] <Kealper> now yea
#2303 [20:58] <mbentley> state school (if you live in indiana)
#2304 [20:59] <Jackson413> osu has an AMAZING connect
#2305 [20:59] <Jackson413> connection
#2306 [20:59] <mbentley> used to be able to upload around 800 KB/s
#2307 [20:59] <Kealper> lol
#2308 [20:59] <mbentley> loved that
#2309 [20:59] <Jackson413> i knew someone there that had a comp sci course there and he had a download of 500mbs
#2310 [21:00] <Jackson413> and an upload of like 100mbs
#2311 [21:00] <Jackson413> id kill someone for that
#2312 [21:00] <mbentley> i wish i could have stashed a server somewhere at my last job
#2313 [21:00] <mbentley> was at a university
#2314 [21:00] <Jackson413> lol
#2315 [21:00] <Jackson413> that would have been funny if they found it
#2316 [21:01] <relsqui> lol, pig in a minecart booster
#2317 [21:01] <mbentley> we found a pc in the ceiling
#2318 [21:01] <Jackson413> im out dudes
#2319 [21:01] <Jackson413> later
#2320 [21:01] <relsqui> poor confused pig
#2321 [21:01] <relsqui> I should have saddled it. that would have been a weird view.
#2322 [21:01] <aetherian> heya
#2323 [21:03] <vaultak101> ok, server is back
#2324 [21:03] <vaultak101> but "craftbukkit" isn't seem to work?
#2325 [21:03] <vaultak101> nvm wrong place lol
#2326 [21:09] <aetherian> heh
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#2328 [21:12] <aetherian> hey skiingpenguins
#2329 [21:12] <SkiingPenguins> hi
#2330 [21:13] <aetherian> sup
#2331 [21:13] <SkiingPenguins> played some halo but got killed by both teams
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#2333 [21:16] <minecrafteer> Hey, I have a question.
#2334 [21:16] <minecrafteer> What could it mean if I encounter gravel deep underground?
#2335 [21:16] <aetherian> nothing
#2336 [21:16] <SkiingPenguins> dont let it cave in on your head
#2337 [21:16] <minecrafteer> As in, near the lowest possible depth.
#2338 [21:16] <aetherian> it means nothing
#2339 [21:16] <minecrafteer> Nothing?
#2340 [21:16] <minecrafteer> Man
#2341 [21:17] <minecrafteer> I always thought it meant I was getting close to water, or a dungeon, or something
#2342 [21:17] <minecrafteer> and would avoid it
#2343 [21:17] <aetherian> and definitely not the presence of a dungeon within 64 blocks
#2344 [21:17] <aetherian> nuh-uh
#2345 [21:17] <minecrafteer> ?
#2346 [21:17] <SkiingPenguins> o_O what do you mean
#2347 [21:17] <aetherian> no sir, no dungeons there.
#2348 [21:17] <aetherian> nothing at all.
#2349 [21:18] <minecrafteer> I ask because I have had gravel appear on the sides of dungeons, which I then accidentally tunnel into and get into a problem
#2350 [21:18] <minecrafteer> okay, really, are there dungeons there?
#2351 [21:18] <SkiingPenguins> dungeons are neat cause of the mossy rock they give you
#2352 [21:19] <minecrafteer> Dungeons are also not neat because of the monsters they give you :(
#2353 [21:19] <aetherian> no sir
#2354 [21:19] <aetherian> no dungeons
#2355 [21:19] <aetherian> not at all
#2356 [21:19] <aetherian> nowhere close
#2357 [21:19] <aetherian> near gravel
#2358 [21:20] <aetherian> nuh-uh
#2359 [21:20] <minecrafteer> that sounds suspicious
#2360 [21:20] <minecrafteer> but it
#2361 [21:20] <minecrafteer> seems to be intended to be suspicious?
#2362 [21:20] <xales> Gravel just spawns randomly
#2363 [21:20] <minecrafteer> augh
#2364 [21:20] <xales> just like iron, coal, etc
#2365 [21:20] <minecrafteer> oh, okay
#2366 [21:20] <minecrafteer> thank goodness
#2367 [21:20] * aetherian is just messing with minecrafteer
#2367 [21:20] <minecrafteer> thanks again minecrafthelp, you guys are great
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#2369 [21:20] <aetherian> of course we a- oh blimey.
#2370 [21:25] <aetherian> hey, what's a good linux irc client?
#2371 [21:26] <aetherian> thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into it right away.
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#2374 [21:28] <sektor1952> Evening
#2375 [21:28] <Kealper> ello
#2376 [21:29] <sektor1952> I have a server running on linux, but when my nephew tries to connect it kicks him out saying he needs to login even though he's already logged in? Did I miss something?
#2377 [21:30] <xales> sektor1952: You are running the wrong server then
#2378 [21:30] <xales> That would be the Classic server software
#2379 [21:30] <sektor1952> oh
#2380 [21:30] <sektor1952> I downloaded the minecraftserver that was available on the site
#2381 [21:31] <sektor1952> was I suppose to download a different one?
#2382 [21:31] <xales> The one for Beta is on the same page where you download the client
#2383 [21:31] <xales> !server
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#2385 [21:35] <aetherian> <3 aubot
#2386 [21:36] <sektor1952> is there a doc or a howto I can reference? the one I downloaded was an alpha copy and it came with a readme
#2387 [21:37] <Kealper> downloaded?
#2388 [21:37] <Kealper> readme?
#2389 [21:37] <Kealper> if you downloaded it from anywhere other than http://minecraft.net then it is not correct :/
#2390 [21:38] <sektor1952> it was minecraft.net
#2391 [21:38] <sektor1952> 1 sec
#2392 [21:38] <Kealper> oh....server, not game
#2393 [21:38] <Kealper> right then
#2394 [21:38] <sektor1952> http://www.minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip
#2395 [21:38] <Kealper> the one you want is the one that AuBot linked to, get the one appropriate to your OS
#2396 [21:39] <xales> That is the wrong server, sektor1952
#2397 [21:39] <Kealper> that is the classic server, is that what you wanted?
#2398 [21:39] <xales> as I said, it is for Classic
#2399 [21:39] <sektor1952> ok
#2400 [21:39] <sektor1952> I downloaded the correct one
#2401 [21:40] <sektor1952> I downloaded the one you gave me a link for
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#2403 [21:41] <Cyberstorm> Ack...what normally happens after a server crash?
#2404 [21:41] * TheMacpau [TheMacpau@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2405 [21:42] <Cyberstorm> Getting errors that I assume result from not being able to open a mapchunk, a GZIP error (Are they compressed?)
#2406 [21:42] <TheMacpau> is anyone any good with servers here?
#2407 [21:42] <xales> Cyberstorm: Think so
#2408 [21:42] <xales> TheMacpau: What do you need help with/
#2409 [21:42] <xales> ?*
#2410 [21:42] <TheMacpau> my freinds setting up a server so I can see their world
#2411 [21:42] <xales> Cyberstorm: It might be corrupted map ._.
#2412 [21:43] <TheMacpau> my one for them worked but I can't connect the other way
#2413 [21:43] <TheMacpau> I get connection timeout
#2414 [21:43] <xales> What IP are you trying to connect to?
#2415 [21:43] <Cyberstorm> Well, switched out level.dat_old
#2416 [21:43] <TheMacpau> theirs
#2417 [21:43] <xales> Which is?
#2418 [21:43] <Cyberstorm> and it rebuilt it...looking for holes now, cause last time, there were chunk-sized holes
#2419 [21:43] <TheMacpau> one sec
#2420 [21:44] <TheMacpau> 94.3.231.10
#2421 [21:44] <xales> Did they port-forward?
#2422 [21:44] <TheMacpau> it should be set to the standard 2556 whatever it is
#2423 [21:44] <Cyberstorm> Ohh, holes got filled int with newly generated terrain, sometimes out of place
#2424 [21:45] <xales> TheMacpau: He needs to set up forwarding on his router, for you to be able to connect
#2425 [21:45] <xales> It sounds to me like he didn't do that
#2426 [21:45] <TheMacpau> ah ok
#2427 [21:45] <TheMacpau> how does one go about doing that
#2428 [21:46] <TheMacpau> mine just worked
#2429 [21:46] <TheMacpau> lol
#2430 [21:46] <xales> Depends on the router - look at http://portforward.com/
#2431 [21:46] <xales> ignore the advertisements asking you to buy something
#2432 [21:46] <TheMacpau> ok
#2433 [21:46] <TheMacpau> thanks I'll have a look at that
#2434 [21:47] <jordonias> hi
#2435 [21:47] <xales> hello
#2436 [21:48] <jordonias> whats up
#2437 [21:48] <xales> nothing much
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#2439 [21:50] <relsqui> it makes me happy that that site exists
#2440 [21:50] <hellofthedevil> hey peeps
#2441 [21:50] <relsqui> someone said "okay, look, this is ridiculous, let's just put it all in one place" and then *did* it
#2442 [21:51] <xales> relsqui: With pictures!
#2443 [21:51] <relsqui> yeah!
#2444 [21:51] <hellofthedevil> hey peeps
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#2446 [21:51] <aetherian> heyo
#2447 [21:51] <hellofthedevil> hows everyone
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#2449 [21:52] <relsqui> grumpy
#2450 [21:52] <hellofthedevil> y
#2451 [21:52] <relsqui> chilly, full, in mild main left over from a recent medical procedure
#2452 [21:52] <relsqui> it is within spec for me to still be in mild pain but it's no fun
#2453 [21:53] <hellofthedevil> lol what med procedure
#2454 [21:53] <relsqui> IUD insertion
#2455 [21:54] <hellofthedevil> not got a clue?????
#2456 [21:54] <hellofthedevil> lol
#2457 [21:54] <relsqui> what?
#2458 [21:54] <SkiingPenguins> hahaha
#2459 [21:54] <hellofthedevil> dunno what that is lol
#2460 [21:54] <relsqui> I just gave you the answer; if you can't read and don't know how to use wikipedia, that's not my problem :)
#2461 [21:54] <hellofthedevil> ok then
#2462 [21:55] <hellofthedevil> well im in a very happy mood
#2463 [21:55] <relsqui> short summary: I got stabbed in the cervix! in a very safe and careful way. but stabbed nonetheless.
#2464 [21:55] <hellofthedevil> ouch
#2465 [21:55] <relsqui> exactly.
#2466 [21:55] <hellofthedevil> well i got my appendix out 3 weeks ago and that hurt
#2467 [21:55] <relsqui> yeah I bet
#2468 [21:56] <relsqui> do they do that laparoscopically these days?
#2469 [21:56] * relsqui wonders idly if that was spelled right
#2469 [21:56] <hellofthedevil> but morphine always helps
#2470 [21:56] <relsqui> that is what that's for.
#2471 [21:57] <relsqui> I took some hydrocodone for this a couple of days ago
#2472 [21:57] <relsqui> mostly it hasn't been that bad but I'm glad I have tomorrow off
#2473 [21:57] <hellofthedevil> morphine is one of the strongest pain releifs in the world
#2474 [21:58] <hellofthedevil> u feel like u r drunk extremly
#2475 [21:58] <relsqui> well, it has different effects on different people
#2476 [21:58] <relsqui> the first time I took vicodin, after a surgery in high school, I was really loopy
#2477 [21:58] <relsqui> it was silly
#2478 [21:59] <hellofthedevil> uh-huh think of that but 10 x stronger
#2479 [21:59] <relsqui> .... if I happen to be wired exactly the same way you aer
#2480 [21:59] <relsqui> they're not the same for everyone.
#2481 [21:59] <Kealper> mmm...wiring
#2482 [21:59] <hellofthedevil> correct
#2483 [22:00] <xales> restone wiring!
#2484 [22:00] <xales> red*
#2485 [22:00] <hellofthedevil> orite kealper
#2486 [22:00] <relsqui> xales: yeah, that's how brains work like?
#2487 [22:00] <relsqui> er
#2488 [22:00] <hellofthedevil> xales u play way to much mc
#2489 [22:00] <relsqui> s/like/right/
#2490 [22:00] <relsqui> also, dammit, chicken on the tracks
#2491 [22:01] <hellofthedevil> lol
#2492 [22:01] <xales> hellofthedevil: Funny, you jump to the conclusion that I have time to play Minecraft, because I mentioned something in it..
#2493 [22:01] <xales> ._.
#2494 [22:01] <relsqui> and now a sheep!
#2495 [22:01] <relsqui> how did you guys get in here!
#2496 [22:01] <relsqui> I should probably not tab out at midnight outside
#2497 [22:01] <Kealper> o.o
#2498 [22:01] <hellofthedevil> calm down it was only a joke
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#2500 [22:02] <hellofthedevil> still never fixed mc beta on ma lappy
#2501 [22:02] <hellofthedevil> but i think its to do with java
#2502 [22:02] <xales> sorry, I'm just a bit annoyed because I don't actually have time to play much these days :<
#2503 [22:02] <relsqui> xales: that sucks, sorry to hear it
#2504 [22:03] <hellofthedevil> i keep getting java errors
#2505 [22:03] <hellofthedevil> so another reinstall on saturday
#2506 [22:03] <relsqui> argh, boosters keep not working for me
#2507 [22:04] <hellofthedevil> dont use boosters
#2508 [22:04] <relsqui> got a better idea?
#2509 [22:04] <hellofthedevil> depends u do u need the booster
#2510 [22:05] <hellofthedevil> y#
#2511 [22:05] <relsqui> .... to make the cart go faster ....
#2512 [22:05] <hellofthedevil> ah that kinda booster
#2513 [22:05] <relsqui> what did you think I meant?
#2514 [22:05] <hellofthedevil> a game booster
#2515 [22:05] <relsqui> a what?
#2516 [22:05] <Kealper> a cheat....
#2517 [22:05] <xales> Kealper: Nope
#2518 [22:06] <hellofthedevil> eh what kind of booster are u using
#2519 [22:06] <xales> "Game boosters" are these ripoff things for Windows that just close stuff that shouldn't be closed
#2520 [22:06] <relsqui> oh, that, heh
#2521 [22:06] <xales> on the off-chance that turning some core stuff in Windows off doesn't totally fuck you up
#2522 [22:06] <Kealper> oh....wow....
#2523 [22:06] <relsqui> these are a U-shaped (vertically) lengths of track parallel to the actual cart track, with a cart settled in the middle
#2524 [22:06] <xales> worst part: you can do it yourself, and they all cost money for something that isn't hard to do on your own
#2525 [22:06] <relsqui> so when the main cart passes, both of them speed up
#2526 [22:06] <xales> :<
#2527 [22:06] <Kealper> yeah.....uhh....i would NOT trust a program to just start killing stuff to get a whole 1 more fps
#2528 [22:06] <hellofthedevil> got it in one xales
#2529 [22:07] <xales> Kealper: it stops windows update, firewall, connection sharing, security center, etc etc
#2530 [22:07] <xales> or, the one I'm thinking of
#2531 [22:07] <xales> called literally "game booster"
#2532 [22:07] <Kealper> sounds stupid
#2533 [22:07] <xales> yup
#2534 [22:07] <Kealper> especially if it costs money :/
#2535 [22:07] <xales> yup
#2536 [22:07] <relsqui> man having a good rail system on this server makes me soooo lazy about walking
#2537 [22:08] <relsqui> I left my stuff in a chest ALL THE WAY IN THE OTHER ROOM
#2538 [22:08] <hellofthedevil> lol
#2539 [22:08] <Kealper> relsqui: tell me about it....lol i have a HUGE track linking my two towns on my server
#2540 [22:08] <hellofthedevil> how far is the other room
#2541 [22:08] <Kealper> it uses so many boosters i don't even want to count em
#2542 [22:08] <relsqui> like, 20 blocks, tops
#2543 [22:08] <hellofthedevil> lol
#2544 [22:09] <relsqui> Kealper: yeah; we got a centralized system last week that runs trains between a central depot and various other locations
#2545 [22:09] <relsqui> some of which have other lines going elsewhere
#2546 [22:09] <hellofthedevil> is it a beta server
#2547 [22:09] <relsqui> it's really sweet and now I'm *spoiled*
#2548 [22:09] <Kealper> yeah, that's what i set up on my server
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#2550 [22:09] <relsqui> my project today has been securing one of the exterior lines
#2551 [22:09] <relsqui> particularly because it runs to a station inside my house
#2552 [22:09] <hellofthedevil> anyone got classic servers
#2553 [22:09] <relsqui> and if that line isn't secure, I get *creepers inside my house*
#2554 [22:10] <relsqui> which happened yesterday
#2555 [22:10] <Kealper> i am actually curious to know how long my longest track is....
#2556 [22:10] <relsqui> apparently the guy who runs the server added a new line today which takes half of a minecraft day to traverse
#2557 [22:10] <relsqui> I haven't seen it yet
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#2559 [22:10] <peachykeen> anyone know how to set up a server on ubuntu in a virtualbox vm?
#2560 [22:10] <xales> Why in a VM?
#2561 [22:10] <relsqui> why in a--yeah, that
#2562 [22:11] <peachykeen> to get xp sp3 out of the way entirely, because rumor says it can break things
#2563 [22:11] <xales> Running it in a VM just needlessly complicates and slows stuff down
#2564 [22:11] <peachykeen> and the firewall on here is a bother
#2565 [22:11] <xales> Running it in a VM won't really fix that
#2566 [22:11] <xales> and the firewall would still be an issue
#2567 [22:11] <xales> =/
#2568 [22:11] <xales> probably easier to just run it on Windows
#2569 [22:11] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> wrecked
#2570 [22:12] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> once again windows prevails
#2571 [22:12] <xales> Ruggsy[]Umb[]: I'd rather use Windows than Linux in a VM on Windows
#2572 [22:12] <relsqui> was it a fight?
#2573 [22:12] <peachykeen> running in a VM with a bridged connection seems to avoid the host box's firewall
#2574 [22:12] <peachykeen> plus, I don't believe in serving anything from windows :p
#2575 [22:12] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> yea im jk i just like to the nerd rage when i say that
#2576 [22:12] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> ;P
#2577 [22:12] <xales> peachykeen: It would still inherit the same issues, as it is just running on 'hardware' being virtualized by Windows
#2578 [22:13] <xales> anyhow, if you really want to do it, all you really need to do is run the server jar
#2579 [22:13] <peachykeen> a few threads I saw in the official forum mentioned that end-of-stream errors and such could result from using xp sp3
#2580 [22:13] <peachykeen> but, I can connect on the internal IP (192.168.0.17 here), but not from my external (times out)
#2581 [22:13] <xales> Did you port forward to it?
#2582 [22:14] <peachykeen> port is forwarded to the proper ip, yep
#2583 [22:14] <peachykeen> 25565 on TCP and UDP
#2584 [22:14] <xales> Do you have anything on the server-ip= line in server.properties?
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#2586 [22:14] <peachykeen> no, I do not
#2587 [22:14] <relsqui> I wish we could cultivate flowers
#2588 [22:15] <peachykeen> should that be my external IP?
#2589 [22:15] <relsqui> some day, I'm sure
#2590 [22:15] <xales> peachykeen: Nope, it should be blank
#2591 [22:16] <xales> Timed-out sounds like the portforward wasn't correct, because if it was a firewall or the packets were rejected by the VM, it would be a 'connection refused'
#2592 [22:16] <peachykeen> hm, alright. canyouseeme.org reports 25565 being open.
#2593 [22:16] <xales> !check c-69-140-214-60.hsd1.md.comcast.net
#2594 [22:16] <xales> port looks open to AuBot
#2595 [22:17] * xales pokes peachykeen
#2595 [22:17] <peachykeen> Odd. It's very clearly timing out here, but that could be a NAT issue.
#2596 [22:17] <xales> yeah...thats what I'm thinking
#2597 [22:17] <peachykeen> Lemme get someone else to test.
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#2599 [22:21] <peachykeen> huh, looks like that was it. Have 3 people logged in now, one is timing out but the other two are fine.
#2600 [22:21] <peachykeen> I can't get in by external IP, but they can fine, so... thanks. :D
#2601 [22:22] <xales> no problem
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#2603 [22:22] <xales> not really sure what I did other than check it :/
#2604 [22:23] <xales> but if you need any more help, you know where to look
#2605 [22:23] <relsqui> oh man, that was *pretty*. lag hole under ice showing faded images of lava caves
#2606 [22:23] <peachykeen> hey, this is windows and linux and minecraft and java and a d-link router all in one.
#2607 [22:23] <peachykeen> I don't care what happened, but I'm not touching anything.
#2608 [22:23] <relsqui> XD
#2609 [22:23] <peachykeen> It works now. :p
#2610 [22:23] <relsqui> atsa spirit
#2611 [22:23] <xales> not sure why that wasn't in there
#2612 [22:24] <relsqui> peachykeen: that was me when I got the skin editor working
#2613 [22:24] <aetherian> ...
#2614 [22:24] <aetherian> the deny support part?
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#2618 [22:24] <aetherian> ?
#2619 [22:24] <xales> nope
#2620 [22:24] <xales> the part about #help
#2621 [22:24] <xales> too much people ask for IRC help in here
#2622 [22:24] <xales> Kealper obtw
#2623 [22:24] <xales> .part
#2624 [22:24] <xales> .part #minecrafthelp
#2625 [22:24] <xales> ..or not?
#2626 [22:24] <xales> :(
#2627 [22:25] <aetherian> ohh
#2628 [22:25] <relsqui> oops. I keep forgettin there's a buried redstone circuit on the other side of this wall
#2629 [22:25] * aetherian doesn't read topic much, only after pdates
#2629 [22:25] * relsqui gingerly replaces the cut stone
#2629 [22:25] <xales> It always annoys me when I do that :(
#2630 [22:26] <relsqui> I don't think I broke anything. but I'll give the owner a heads up.
#2631 [22:26] <relsqui> this is also probably going to be my last major dig around this room and then I'll be low enough not to run into it
#2632 [22:26] <aetherian> at least you didn't unleash water into it
#2633 [22:26] <relsqui> heh yes
#2634 [22:26] <relsqui> true
#2635 [22:27] <xales> :O
#2636 [22:27] <xales> I just noticed
#2637 [22:27] <xales> that this terminal emulator has more colors than PuTTY
#2638 [22:27] <xales> which is why it looks different
#2639 [22:27] <xales> :>
#2640 [22:27] <relsqui> which emulator?
#2641 [22:27] <xales> gnome-terminal
#2642 [22:27] * relsqui nods
#2642 [22:27] <relsqui> ha! sweet.
#2643 [22:27] <relsqui> I dug about four rocks before hitting iron
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#2645 [22:27] <relsqui> which is what I was looking for
#2646 [22:28] <relsqui> (I'm mining with a stone pick right now, this is ridiculous)
#2647 [22:28] <xales> I was using rxvt-unicode but the desync with paste buffers is terrible :'(
#2648 [22:28] <pole> hi , i need help fort Minecraft , is her ???please
#2649 [22:28] <relsqui> hoo boy
#2650 [22:28] <xales> pole: What do you need help with
#2651 [22:29] <pole> ok , i'm french , i need your help for created a new server public for me and my friend and other
#2652 [22:29] <xales> ok, what part doesn't work?
#2653 [22:29] <relsqui> times like these are why I want to learn every language
#2654 [22:30] <pole> i have probleme fort connecting my friend i thinx ...have you got a easy tutorial for me because many tuto doesn't good
#2655 [22:30] <peachykeen> relsqui: google translate actually works wonders, if you can copy-paste lightning fast
#2656 [22:30] <xales> pole: Did you do port-forwarding?
#2657 [22:30] <relsqui> yeah, true. but actually being able to speak in another language would be even better :)
#2658 [22:30] <relsqui> also, would help with giving directions to lost foreign tourists
#2659 [22:30] <relsqui> without a computer handy
#2660 [22:31] <pole> my port 25565 is open
#2661 [22:31] <xales> are you running the server?
#2662 [22:31] <peachykeen> relsqui: but google is everywhere :p
#2663 [22:31] <relsqui> for those with a smartphone budget, yes :P
#2664 [22:31] <AndrewPH> except egypt :p
#2665 [22:31] <pole> i have run "minecraft_server"
#2666 [22:32] <Kealper> AndrewPH: a friend of mine in Cairo has internet again
#2667 [22:32] <peachykeen> you can call Google to leave tweets from inside Egypt
#2668 [22:32] <relsqui> nice!
#2669 [22:33] <pole> no more for help a noob ? :)
#2670 [22:33] <xales> pole: Sorry...
#2671 [22:33] <xales> pole: one sec
#2672 [22:33] <pole> ok :)
#2673 [22:34] <pole> wisp me when you are finish your occupation
#2674 [22:34] <xales> What IP does your friend use to connect to you?
#2675 [22:34] <pole> my normaly ip 93.21.73.162:25565
#2676 [22:35] <xales> !check 93.21.73.162
#2677 [22:35] <xales> pole: What error does he see when he tries to play?
#2678 [22:35] <pole> me too i can't , i go on my server with "localhost " or "hostlocal" i don t remember
#2679 [22:35] <pole> one second he try for see
#2680 [22:36] <pole> "filed to login , bad login"
#2681 [22:36] <TheMacpau> hi xales, i'm back, the port is open but it still doesn't work
#2682 [22:36] <xales> TheMacpau: Still getting 'timed out'?
#2683 [22:36] <TheMacpau> yup
#2684 [22:37] <xales> TheMacpau: When you say 'the port is open' does that mean he checked it with one of the port-checking things?
#2685 [22:38] <TheMacpau> folowed all the instructions on hte site and the port is now open
#2686 [22:38] <pole> :'(
#2687 [22:38] <xales> pole: What is your Minecraft username?
#2688 [22:38] <pole> sexygob
#2689 [22:38] <dopeghoti> Humble.
#2690 [22:38] <pole> for what?
#2691 [22:39] <xales> pole: You can connect?
#2692 [22:39] <Kealper> lol dope
#2693 [22:40] <pole> on my server ? no , only with " hostlocal" , i want my server , but i can play on public server but not in my server
#2694 [22:40] <xales> TheMacpau: Can you have him take a screenshot of where he added the port-forward (it should be a list of them, possibly with just the one - get the screenshot of that), and upload it.
#2695 [22:40] <pole> i want play with my friend but i have this probleme :(
#2696 [22:40] <xales> pole: Your friend gets 'bad login'?
#2697 [22:40] <pole> yes
#2698 [22:40] <xales> What is his username?
#2699 [22:40] <pole> klm02
#2700 [22:41] <xales> does he get 'bad login' on all servers?
#2701 [22:41] <pole> he can play alone and public server , but can't to log in my server
#2702 [22:41] <TheMacpau> xales:you mean router window?
#2703 [22:41] <xales> TheMacpau: Correct
#2704 [22:41] <pole> Xales you can"t try to connect my server for test?
#2705 [22:42] <xales> pole: I can't, sorry. My current computer can't play Minecraft
#2706 [22:43] <xales> pole: Does only he get 'bad login'?
#2707 [22:43] <pole> ok lol ...i don't understund my probleme...my port is open , i firewall is off
#2708 [22:43] <relsqui> I can try connecting
#2709 [22:43] <xales> relsqui: 93.21.73.162
#2710 [22:44] <relsqui> I get unknown host
#2711 [22:44] <xales> o_O
#2712 [22:44] <xales> sure you typed it right
#2713 [22:44] <relsqui> no, I'm not :P
#2714 [22:44] <xales> or copied, I guess
#2715 [22:44] <relsqui> connected!
#2716 [22:44] <pole> you are on my server?
#2717 [22:44] <relsqui> yup
#2718 [22:44] <relsqui> you try connecting just to make sure I'm in the right place
#2719 [22:45] <pole> i can see on my "server"
#2720 [22:45] <relsqui> wait, something's fishy
#2721 [22:45] <relsqui> I try to dig up sand and it just pops back
#2722 [22:45] <relsqui> also I can't /list
#2723 [22:45] <xales> relsqui: Probably lag
#2724 [22:45] <relsqui> I see a little lava pool with some pigs around it
#2725 [22:45] <relsqui> the pigs are falling in
#2726 [22:45] <relsqui> it smells *amazing*
#2727 [22:46] <pole> (olaaa don't understund i go translate on google ^^)
#2728 [22:46] <relsqui> haha most of that was not important
#2729 [22:46] <relsqui> wait, that's a diving board, isn't it
#2730 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> pole - Quel est le probleme?
#2731 [22:46] <relsqui> is this a lava swimming pool? this is a lava swimming pool
#2732 [22:47] <relsqui> I am amused.
#2733 [22:47] <pole> un Fran�ais?
#2734 [22:47] <pole> mon sauveur?
#2735 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Un peu
#2736 [22:47] <pole> En faite je n'arrivais a rejoindre mon server
#2737 [22:47] * relsqui watches the sun come up on the server
#2737 [22:47] <relsqui> pole: I have successfully connected to what appears to be your server
#2738 [22:48] <pole> yes you can but me....i con't...
#2739 [22:48] <pole> can't
#2740 [22:48] <peachykeen> are you using your external IP or an internal one?
#2741 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> pole, Puis-he obtenir le fichier nomme server.properties?
#2742 [22:49] <relsqui> peachykeen: iirc he said it worked with localhost but not the external ip
#2743 [22:49] <peachykeen> I *just* had a similar problem. Others can use my external fine, but it times out for me (internal, loopback or localhost work though)
#2744 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Pole - Utilisez "pastebin.com"
#2745 [22:50] <peachykeen> That wouldn't explain his friend's problem with the "bad login", but could explain his issue.
#2746 [22:51] <pole> Greyvulpine can you speak in private please?
#2747 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> If he's port forwarded correctly, and set up his server correctly, there's no reason why he can't use either external or internal ips
#2748 [22:51] <relsqui> me puts up a little sign that says "relsqui etait la" and logs out
#2749 [22:52] <peachykeen> GreyVulpine: so you'd think. I'm not an expert on networking, but I do know I had a similar issue a few minutes ago.
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#2752 [22:53] <relsqui> I fill up chests with cobblestone, he empties them
#2753 [22:55] <pole> Thx Xales for your help
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#2755 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Okay, I'm really rusty at my french
#2756 [22:58] <xales> Better than I am, at least
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#2758 [22:59] <Rivitingone> Anyone here an official / simi official helper?
#2759 [22:59] <xales> What do you need help with?
#2760 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Nope, none.
#2761 [22:59] <xales> We aren't official, but we can help with most things
#2762 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> We all have @s for the heck of it
#2763 [22:59] <relsqui> Rivitingone: not I, but I'm curious why you care whether one is official
#2764 [23:00] <AndrewPH> herp
#2765 [23:00] <Rivitingone> Nothing needing help with but I had a question the other day that nobody could figure out and I figured it out so I wanted to relay the answer.
#2766 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Shoot.
#2767 [23:00] * xales shoots GreyVulpine
#2767 [23:00] * GreyVulpine matrix-dodges.
#2767 [23:00] <Rivitingone> My server was having serious lag issues every time anyone would log in or die and respawn.
#2768 [23:01] <xales> :' ' ' '(
#2769 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay...
#2770 [23:01] <Rivitingone> It would take upwards of a minute for the world to load on the clients screen
#2771 [23:01] <relsqui> huh, we were getting that the other day
#2772 [23:01] * relsqui listens
#2772 [23:01] <AndrewPH> matrix dodge -> still get scraped
#2773 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, better than dying.
#2774 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Plus it looks cool.
#2775 [23:01] <Rivitingone> The problme was that I had built something directly on the spawn point so that it was incased in blocks,
#2776 [23:02] <Rivitingone> The game was having to recalculate a new spawn location on the fly every time one was needed
#2777 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I see...
#2778 [23:02] <Rivitingone> So I just wanted to pass that along in case someone complaines of the same issues,
#2779 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> That's good to know, thanks. Normally it should've just spawned on top of the blocks on the spawn point
#2780 [23:03] <TheMacpau> xales: thanks for the help so far I'm calling time on the problem and will come back to it later with a fresh mind
#2781 [23:03] <Rivitingone> I used MCedit and moved the spawn point up one block above the cobblestone and the problem was solved
#2782 [23:03] * TheMacpau gives xales one internet for helping
#2782 [23:05] <relsqui> I just noticed I am breaking the first and third rules of mining
#2783 [23:05] * relsqui stops
#2783 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Don't dig straight down/up?
#2784 [23:05] <relsqui> don't dig straight down. up is second.
#2785 [23:05] <relsqui> but down bore repeating
#2786 [23:05] <relsqui> so it got to be third
#2787 [23:05] <relsqui> as well as first
#2788 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Ah. *nods*
#2789 [23:07] <relsqui> it's tricky to avoid when I'm not bothering to build stairs, I'm just making a shaft for a ladder
#2790 [23:07] <relsqui> I guess I can do some of the digging out before I finish the shaft
#2791 [23:08] <relsqui> much better.
#2792 [23:10] * relsqui just discovered ladders and is a fan
#2792 [23:10] <relsqui> (I've only been playing for a few weeks)
#2793 [23:13] <Rivitingone> What is the regular minecraft channel?
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#2795 [23:14] <xales> Rivitingone: #minecraft
#2796 [23:15] <relsqui> is it any good? I glanced in there before I came here but it didn't seem as interesting nor friendly
#2797 [23:16] <xales> It is amusing, I guess
#2798 [23:16] <xales> sometimes interesting
#2799 [23:16] <Rivitingone> #minecraft responds with: "Cannon send to channel" when I try to type anything
#2800 [23:16] <xales> Rivitingone: read the topic
#2801 [23:16] <relsqui> COOL
#2802 [23:16] <Rivitingone> cannot*
#2803 [23:16] * relsqui thinks of the 1812 overture
#2803 [23:16] <relsqui> Rivitingone: the other way was better
#2804 [23:16] <relsqui> (sorry, I'm five)
#2805 [23:16] <xales> Rivitingone: gotta register and identify with nickserv
#2806 [23:17] <relsqui> ... I'm having a bit of the "I keep digging but I haven't hit anything interesting yet" blues
#2807 [23:17] <relsqui> ... and then struck iron
#2808 [23:17] <relsqui> right after saying that
#2809 [23:18] <xales> ;)
#2810 [23:18] * relsqui sacrifices a pig to the mine gods
#2810 [23:18] <relsqui> good timing, too. I keep finding iron right after I run out of iron picks
#2811 [23:19] <aetherian> then what do you truly gain
#2812 [23:19] <relsqui> depth.
#2813 [23:19] <xales> satisfaction.
#2814 [23:20] <relsqui> and "do you wanna date my avatar" stuck in my head for some reason
#2815 [23:20] <relsqui> oh, probably because I have a spiffy new avatar
#2816 [23:20] <aetherian> who here's beaten minecraft :D
#2817 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Sure, dozens of times
#2818 [23:21] <relsqui> XD
#2819 [23:22] <xales> GreyVulpine: Did you cheat? :)
#2820 [23:23] <Rivitingone> :( I fail at IRC... How do I register? I tried doing it the same way listed in the help but it says "You are not in a channel"
#2821 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> /ns register password email
#2822 [23:24] <Rivitingone> hmm ok. The /ns part isn't listed in the syntax they give.
#2823 [23:24] <xales> it is implied
#2824 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv or /ns is the same command
#2825 [23:24] <aetherian> not on all clients...
#2826 [23:24] <Rivitingone> pfft implied.
#2827 [23:24] <relsqui> iirc /msg nickserv is more widely supported
#2828 [23:24] <relsqui> yeah, that
#2829 [23:25] <aetherian> I think that windows cygwin irssi doesn't support
#2830 [23:25] <Rivitingone> Do I have to type that in the #minecraft window?
#2831 [23:25] <aetherian> and I know a different thing that doesn't, as far as I can remember
#2832 [23:25] <aetherian> no
#2833 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Any window Rivitingone
#2834 [23:25] <aetherian> you do not
#2835 [23:27] <relsqui> do you guys use coal or charcoal for torches?
#2836 [23:27] <xales> coal
#2837 [23:27] <xales> charcoal is more effort
#2838 [23:27] * SinZ|Away is away: Đ³ « sıиz ıs ашаy
#2838 [23:27] <xales> later on, anyway
#2839 [23:29] <aetherian> I have yet to use charcoal
#2840 [23:29] * relsqui nods
#2840 [23:29] <relsqui> I started using it because I didn't have a coal source early on
#2841 [23:29] <relsqui> and now I'm pretty flush with coal but still kinda stingy
#2842 [23:29] <aetherian> ...
#2843 [23:30] <aetherian> I'm not even sure how to make charred coal;
#2844 [23:30] <relsqui> wood (not planks, wood) in furnace
#2845 [23:30] <aetherian> and what do you put below, more wood?
#2846 [23:30] <relsqui> plank
#2847 [23:30] <aetherian> well, that settles it.
#2848 [23:30] <aetherian> never using charcoal.
#2849 [23:31] <aetherian> evar
#2850 [23:31] <relsqui> lol
#2851 [23:31] <relsqui> yeah it's for your first day in game when you don't have coal yet but monsters are coming soon
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#2853 [23:31] <aetherian> lol
#2854 [23:31] <aetherian> ie, you travel
#2855 [23:32] <aetherian> or find a lava pool
#2856 [23:32] <relsqui> I'm talking about when you're building your first shelter
#2857 [23:32] <relsqui> but, whatev :)
#2858 [23:32] <aetherian> or build a dirt ht
#2859 [23:32] <aetherian> hut
#2860 [23:32] <relsqui> aand fell down a hole again
#2861 [23:32] <aetherian> heh
#2862 [23:33] <relsqui> luckily I had a couple of ladder pieces on me
#2863 [23:33] * relsqui goes to make more
#2863 [23:33] <aetherian> orrrr you dig out
#2864 [23:33] <aetherian> theoritically
#2865 [23:33] <relsqui> well, I was going to put a ladder there anyway
#2866 [23:33] <relsqui> that's what the hole was for
#2867 [23:33] <relsqui> I just didn't intend to fall into it yet
#2868 [23:37] <aetherian> lol
#2869 [23:40] <relsqui> heh. maybe when I'm done with this stack of rooms I'll build skylights in the ceiling/floor of all of them
#2870 [23:40] <relsqui> and shine sunlight on bedrock
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#2872 [23:42] <aetherian> make a room on bedrock the top down 2d size being the size of a chunk, and going up until 1-few blocks below the surface
#2873 [23:42] <aetherian> :D
#2874 [23:43] <aetherian> if you get my complispeak
#2875 [23:43] <relsqui> haha
#2876 [23:43] <relsqui> "doot doo I wonder what's here AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
#2877 [23:43] <aetherian> FUUU
#2878 [23:43] <relsqui> XD
#2879 [23:43] <aetherian> OMIGOD CREEPER
#2880 [23:43] <aetherian> OMIGOD FALLING
#2881 [23:43] <relsqui> lmao
#2882 [23:43] <relsqui> that would be great
#2883 [23:44] <aetherian> brb
#2884 [23:44] <relsqui> the real joke is I'm going to dig one layer deeper and find out one of my friends has already done that to me
#2885 [23:46] <relsqui> aw, my pattern failed. out of picks, no iron on this level
#2886 [23:46] <relsqui> yet
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#2888 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Why use iron picks normally in the first place?
#2889 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Stone does just as well.. and you get a lot more of them
#2890 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Reserve iron for the special blocks
#2891 [23:53] <relsqui> slower, isn't it?
#2892 [23:53] <relsqui> fair enough
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#2895 [23:54] <relsqui> woo, here's my home server: http://spazzy.ath.cx/minecraft/map/
#2896 [23:54] <jamster> I have a server that i just set-up with the port forwarded correctly ... but can't connect to my own server .. can someone else try connecting and see if it works?
#2897 [23:54] <relsqui> jamster: sure
#2898 [23:54] <jamster> 71.234.118.158
#2899 [23:55] <jamster> thanks :)
#2900 [23:56] <jamster> it kicked you and said you need to login? :(
#2901 [23:56] <relsqui> client crashed
#2902 [23:56] <relsqui> I can't remember the last time I had a client crash XD
#2903 [23:56] <jamster> hehe
#2904 [23:56] <jamster> sorry
#2905 [23:57] <relsqui> no worries :P let me see if that's repeatable
#2906 [23:57] <jamster> ok thanks
#2907 [23:57] <xales> jamster: If it is kicking and saying you need to log in, you have the wrong server
#2908 [23:57] <xales> you need to use this
#2909 [23:57] <xales> !server
#2910 [23:57] <xales> the one you downloaded is for Classic
#2911 [23:57] <jamster> ohhhhhh
#2912 [23:58] <jamster> i read some HOW TO SETUP A MINECRAFT SERVER tutorial and it gave me a different link
#2913 [23:58] <relsqui> yes, the crash is repeatable ;)
#2914 [23:58] <jamster> thanks
#2915 [23:58] <jamster> i'll do that, thank you gusy for your help
#2916 [23:59] <relsqui> good luck!
#2917 [23:59] <jamster> thank you