#1 [00:02] <relsqui> kinda sad when it takes me so long to fold my laundry that it's time to do laundry again :|
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#7 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> esper having a heart attack?
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#10 [00:07] <xales> GreyVulpine: Seems like it hiccuped
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#13 [00:11] <Jackson413> hi all
#14 [00:12] <Jackson413> dopeghoti u here?
#15 [00:13] <Jackson413> I got it to work but I am wondering something
#16 [00:13] <Jackson413> what is the final output, a huge picture file or...?
#17 [00:13] <dopeghoti> I'm intermittently here. The output is a working Google Maps site.
#18 [00:14] <Jackson413> whoa
#19 [00:14] <Jackson413> that is fucking cool
#20 [00:14] <Jackson413> like it uploads it?
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#22 [00:22] <Jackson413> or does it end up on my hard drive somewhere?
#23 [00:26] <OODavo> !check
#24 [00:28] <OODavo> Excellent.
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#26 [00:29] <Jackson413> !check
#27 [00:29] <Jackson413> lol from an ipod
#28 [00:29] <OODavo> That !check thing is so helpful. :P)
#29 [00:29] <OODavo> :s/P//
#30 [00:29] <Jackson413> lol I'm on an ipod
#31 [00:30] <OODavo> Why aren't you running an MC server on it? :|
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#33 [00:32] <Jackson413> dopeghoti does it upload it somewhere or is it stored on your computer?
#34 [00:35] <dopeghoti> it's stored wherever you tell it to output to, but you can upload that wherever
#35 [00:36] <Jackson413> what is the file format?
#36 [00:36] <Jackson413> and can I like just FTP it somewhere?
#37 [00:42] <relsqui> "I’m also half-way through finishing my Advanced Diver course. Expect more underwater content in Minecraft." :D
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#43 [00:53] <OODavo> !cgeck
#44 [00:53] <OODavo> !check
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#46 [00:55] <xales> !check
#47 [00:55] <xales> :<
#48 [00:56] <OODavo> !check
#49 [00:56] <OODavo> Okay, that's weird.
#50 [00:56] <xales> lol
#51 [00:56] <xales> Feb 4 00:55:34 darksigns kernel: drop_packetIN=eth0 OUT= MAC=fe:fd:45:a4:d5:ca:88:43:e1:7c:75:3f:08:00 SRC=67.177.131.104 DST=69.164.213.202 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=114 ID=11024 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=54962 DPT=25565 WINDOW=8192 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
#52 [00:56] <OODavo> Because actual people are apparently failing to connect.
#53 [00:56] <xales> what IP?
#54 [00:56] <OODavo> 121.44.143.189
#55 [00:57] <xales> I connected fine
#56 [00:57] <xales> with telnet
#57 [00:57] <xales> lol
#58 [00:57] <OODavo> Wait, you can telnet into MC servers? :O
#59 [00:58] <xales> you can telnet anything that uses TCP
#60 [00:58] <jordonias> meow
#61 [00:58] <OODavo> Well, that's just crazy.
#62 [00:58] <xales> Try it. telnet google.com 80
#63 [00:58] <xales> lol
#64 [00:58] <OODavo> Could you check whether the TeamSpeak server's responding, too? Port 9987.
#65 [00:59] <xales> Teamspeak is UDP, IIRC
#66 [00:59] <xales> but I got a connection refused.
#67 [00:59] <OODavo> Oh, UDP?
#68 [00:59] <OODavo> Maybe I'm only forwarding TCP for it.
#69 [00:59] * OODavo checks.
#69 [00:59] <jordonias> any recommend a good MC server to play?
#70 [00:59] <xales> jordonias: http://minestatus.net
#71 [00:59] <the_late_man> :o
#72 [00:59] <jordonias> i know that
#73 [01:00] <jordonias> but id like a recommendation
#74 [01:00] <OODavo> Nope, both. Darn.
#75 [01:00] <xales> OODavo: It doesn't matter if it is being forwarded but not used
#76 [01:00] <OODavo> Yeah, but it doesn't seem to be working, so there is a problem.
#77 [01:01] <xales> restart it?
#78 [01:01] <OODavo> Huh. I can connect using the external IP.
#79 [01:01] <OODavo> So the server is working fine.
#80 [01:01] <OODavo> Hmm.
#81 [01:04] <xales> UDP looks open
#82 [01:04] <xales> ppp121-44-143-189.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net [121.44.143.189] 9987 (?) open
#83 [01:04] <OODavo> Yeah, it's weird.
#84 [01:04] * SinZ|Away is back (gone 01:37:08)
#84 [01:05] <OODavo> Would you mind trying to connect with the actual Minecraft client?
#85 [01:07] <xales> Can't run the minecraft client on my shittop, sorry ;(
#86 [01:07] <jordonias> ill try
#87 [01:07] <jordonias> whats the server ip
#88 [01:08] <OODavo> 121.44.143.189
#89 [01:08] <OODavo> Default port.
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#91 [01:08] <jordonias> its working
#92 [01:09] <OODavo> Indeed.
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#95 [01:16] <TheScorp> *yawns*
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#97 [01:16] <TheScorp> Crap
#98 [01:16] <TheScorp> Which channel is it that locks my nickname?
#99 [01:16] <khen> Hey all, I've got a question. Can I just shoot it in here?
#100 [01:17] <relsqui> khen: you can at least ask, worst thing that happens is no one answers
#101 [01:17] <TheScorp> Ask the question you want to ask instead ^^
#102 [01:17] <OODavo> TheScorp: Probably #minecraft.
#103 [01:17] <OODavo> Since it's +M.
#104 [01:17] <khen> So my Minecraft keeps crashing (Black Screen), which is an issue I need to fix... but when I relog back in, I'm dying.
#105 [01:17] <khen> Happened twice
#106 [01:17] <LordEddi> Indeed OODavo.
#107 [01:18] <OODavo> Done a reinstall yet?
#108 [01:18] <OODavo> !reinstal
#109 [01:18] <OODavo> !reinstall
#110 [01:18] <LordEddi> khen: Windows 7, 64 bit by any chance?
#111 [01:18] <LordEddi> Been having the same problem, and my temp fix was basicly setting the render distance to normal instead of far..
#112 [01:18] <LordEddi> Havent investigated more than that.
#113 [01:19] <khen> xp
#114 [01:20] <khen> This is ridiculous, can't even find app. data lol.
#115 [01:20] <LordEddi> Start -> Run > %appdata%
#116 [01:20] <khen> money.
#117 [01:20] <LordEddi> O.o
#118 [01:21] <khen> I'm about to try the 2nd download link, when it said "if this doesn't work try this one"
#119 [01:21] <khen> yall recommend it?
#120 [01:22] <LordEddi> Pretty much the same file, just that the forwarding to it is a bit different.
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#122 [01:22] <Solvius> hi all
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#124 [01:23] <LordEddi> Morning.
#125 [01:25] <khen> by far and away, this is the scariest freaking game ive ever played. ive jumped 10 time sin 10 minutes
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#127 [01:28] <OODavo> No wonder they couldn't connect.
#128 [01:28] <OODavo> The IP address had changed, and I hadn't told them the new one.
#129 [01:28] <OODavo> Duh.
#130 [01:28] <OODavo> :|
#131 [01:28] <aetherian> lol
#132 [01:28] <OODavo> I need to buy a domain already.
#133 [01:28] <aetherian> oh, this thing actually looks quite nice
#134 [01:29] <OODavo> Thing?
#135 [01:29] <aetherian> mmyes, very pretty
#136 [01:29] <LordEddi> hehe
#137 [01:29] <aetherian> what?
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#140 [01:32] <Lorax> khen: I can't look at patio stones the same way any more.
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#142 [01:32] <aetherian> o.o
#143 [01:33] <khen> Damn, another black screen... this really sucks.
#144 [01:33] <aetherian> heh
#145 [01:33] <aetherian> is javs updated?
#146 [01:33] <khen> javaw is 950k
#147 [01:34] <aetherian> ...
#148 [01:34] <khen> 6.0.22
#149 [01:34] <khen> i mean, it's 950k memory in task manager
#150 [01:35] <xales> Try turning down the view/render distance
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#152 [01:38] <aetherian> heh
#153 [01:38] <aetherian> I know someone who has to play on tiny (technically short works too, barely) and he better not press f, because minecraft will crash
#154 [01:39] <xales> Winner computer is winner
#155 [01:39] <aetherian> that's what he gets for playing minecraft on an old pile of nuts and bolts with 512MB of ram
#156 [01:39] <aetherian> lol
#157 [01:40] <aetherian> ubuntu looks and runs very smooth/ly
#158 [01:40] <xales> lol, Ubuntu looks
#159 [01:40] <xales> ugleh
#160 [01:42] <aetherian> but it was easeh
#161 [01:42] <aetherian> to temporarily install
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#165 [01:48] <xales> shinobo: !check (ip)
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#167 [01:51] <shinobo> Hey everyone. I was informed there was a bot in this channel that checks to make sure your server can be connected to from the net. Is its name Checkzor?
#168 [01:51] <xales> no
#169 [01:51] <xales> !check ip
#170 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> !check me
#171 [01:51] <shinobo> Oh, well there you go. Thanks again Xales.
#172 [01:52] <shinobo> !checkme
#173 [01:52] <shinobo> er
#174 [01:52] <shinobo> !check me
#175 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> Or just !check
#176 [01:52] <shinobo> Thanks guys
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#178 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> No, it's just !check
#179 [01:52] <shinobo> !check
#180 [01:52] <KillSpammer> !check
#181 [01:52] <KillSpammer> What?
#182 [01:52] <KillSpammer> It didn't?
#183 [01:52] <KillSpammer> Work...
#184 [01:53] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine, did you disable me from using the bot?
#185 [01:53] <xales> .kick KillSpammer lolololol
#186 [01:53] * AuBot kicked KillSpammer from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: lolololol)
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#188 [01:53] <xales> :P
#189 [01:53] <KillSpammer> Why was i kicked?
#190 [01:53] <xales> I was bored
#191 [01:53] <xales> it was a joke
#192 [01:53] <xales> :P
#193 [01:54] <KillSpammer> ...
#194 [01:54] <xales> lol
#195 [01:54] <KillSpammer> I want a make up for that.
#196 [01:54] <DJJeff> !check geeksonfraser.com
#197 [01:55] <DJJeff> !check geeksonfraser.com:9010
#198 [01:55] <DJJeff> there we go!
#199 [01:55] <shinobo> !check redcomet.homeserver.com:25565
#200 [01:55] <KillSpammer> xales - A perm +V would sufice.
#201 [01:55] <shinobo> Whew, things are OK it seems. Thanks for the help guys :D
#202 [01:55] <OODavo> Wait, AuBot can kick?
#203 [01:55] <xales> +V?
#204 [01:55] <xales> OODavo: Of course
#205 [01:56] <KillSpammer> Voice xales
#206 [01:56] <xales> voice is +v not +V
#207 [01:56] <xales> :P
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#209 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#210 [01:59] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.37 Seconds.
#211 [01:59] <xales> !pong
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#213 [02:02] <khen> thanks for the help gents
#214 [02:03] <khen> i think it's just my computer,
#215 [02:03] <khen> i only have 2 gb ram, so that's gotta be black screening it
#216 [02:03] <khen> nothing much we can do about it at this point, but kinda sad about being down 20 buck
#217 [02:03] <khen> s
#218 [02:04] <relsqui> I only have two gigs, it suits me okay. but the comparison isn't so simple :)
#219 [02:04] <xales> khen: wait..what is the issue?
#220 [02:05] <khen> i just keep getting blacked out after 15 minutes
#221 [02:05] <khen> have to control alt delete
#222 [02:05] <xales> have you tried it with the render distance turned down, and the graphics set to 'fast'?
#223 [02:11] <khen> i'll try it
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#226 [02:22] <feenyx> khen: it's likely it has more to do with for example your video card, than with your ram
#227 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> !k test
#228 [02:22] * GreyBot kicked Test from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: <Kicks:627>)
#229 [02:23] <xales> 600 kicks on the bot?
#230 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> mmhmm
#231 [02:23] <xales> where else do/have you used it?
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#233 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> My other regular network
#234 [02:23] <aetherian> ah, good old windows
#235 [02:23] <xales> ah
#236 [02:23] <xales> aetherian: :(
#237 [02:24] <aetherian> xales: I've tried with multiple distros and I simply cannot get linux to connect to my router wirelessly
#238 [02:24] <aetherian> >.>
#239 [02:24] <xales> that really isn't hard.
#240 [02:24] <xales> :(
#241 [02:24] <aetherian> oh? really?
#242 [02:25] <aetherian> wfunny, I didn't see it as that
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#244 [02:28] * aetherian is dreadfully annoyed at his computer
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#246 [02:30] <jordonias> aetherian: i had a lot of trouble with that too
#247 [02:30] <aetherian> oh?
#248 [02:30] <aetherian> what isp?
#249 [02:30] <xales> What does ISP have to do with wireless card configuration
#250 [02:31] <jordonias> aetherian: you need to use ndiswrapper for a lot of wireless cards
#251 [02:31] <jordonias> aetherian: thats how i got it working on a laptop one time
#252 [02:31] <aetherian> dunno, xales. however, I am currently at a total loss as to why it's not working, and my isp is easy to blame.
#253 [02:31] <xales> How could it possibly be your ISP
#254 [02:31] <jordonias> its the drivers for your wireless card
#255 [02:31] <xales> That doesn't even make sense
#256 [02:31] <jordonias> in no way is it your ISP
#257 [02:32] <jordonias> aetherian: look into ndiswrapper so you can use Windows drivers
#258 [02:32] <aetherian> xales: in the same way that it makes no sense that ever since we switched to this damn router every time I lag for half a bloody second it pulls up on my web browser that I need to restart the web browser
#259 [02:33] <aetherian> darn 2wire interrupting my browsing
#260 [02:33] <aetherian> oughta be a law
#261 [02:33] <xales> lol
#262 [02:33] <xales> Lesson 1: Don't ever let your ISP or network hardware manufacturer install anything on your computer.
#263 [02:33] <xales> EVER
#264 [02:34] * aetherian grumps
#264 [02:34] * GreyVulpine blinks
#264 [02:34] * GreyVulpine revokes aetherian's geek cred.
#264 [02:34] <jordonias> xales: just curious do you work with Minecraft or you just admin on here just to help?
#265 [02:34] * aetherian says, "that isn't why I was grumping"
#265 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> jordonias - None of us here, except for mollstam, is in anyway officially affiliated with Mojang
#266 [02:35] <xales> Nope, none of us are affiliated in any way with Mojang. We aren't technically official support, though we are officially recognized
#267 [02:35] <jordonias> GreyVulpine: OK,i see. Just curious
#268 [02:35] * aetherian also says, "you can't remove a geek cred from me, I never had it in the fisrt place. Never bothered to research all this stuff"
#268 [02:35] <xales> GreyVulpine: the ISP techs haven't asked to install stuff on my computer, after I got a case with lights on it :)
#269 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Pfft.
#270 [02:36] <xales> "lighty-computer i guess he knows wut hez doin lulz"
#271 [02:36] <aetherian> lol
#272 [02:37] * aetherian goes back into his meditation mode
#272 [02:39] <OODavo> xales: What stuff were they trying to install before? :/
#273 [02:40] <xales> OODavo: Internet explorer branding, shitty desktop utilities for 'help'
#274 [02:41] <OODavo> But, uh, aren't you running Linux?
#275 [02:41] <OODavo> Were they going to install IE in Wine or something?
#276 [02:41] <xales> I wasn't on my desktop, for a while
#277 [02:41] <OODavo> Ah.
#278 [02:41] <xales> and I could always tell them "No, I'm running Linux" instead of "Fuck no"
#279 [02:41] <aetherian> same thing?
#280 [02:42] <lukegb> 'Do you have FreeBSD driver support?' :)
#281 [02:43] <xales> What doesn't?
#282 [02:43] <lukegb> I mean, a FreeBSD version of the ISP's software? :D
#283 [02:44] <xales> oh
#284 [02:44] <xales> nope
#285 [02:44] <xales> of course
#286 [02:44] <xales> lo
#287 [02:44] <xales> l*
#288 [02:44] <Checkzor> xales
#289 [02:44] <Checkzor> we hit 37 people in the server
#290 [02:44] <Checkzor> no lag what so ever :)
#291 [02:44] <xales> :)
#292 [02:44] <lukegb> My router's Linux based buuuut impossible to get into the guts of (no telnet, no ssh, heavily restricted web interface) apart from using a USB-stick based rooting trick
#293 [02:45] <xales> lol
#294 [02:45] <jordonias> what server checkzor
#295 [02:45] <jordonias> can i come on it
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#297 [02:46] <aetherian> checkzor, you never told me ;_;
#298 [02:47] <Checkzor> oh right :P
#299 [02:47] <KillSpammer> Yarp Checkzor is right.
#300 [02:47] <Checkzor> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1025&t=166711
#301 [02:47] <Checkzor> now it's around 15ish
#302 [02:47] <Checkzor> btw they asked for it, does not count as advertising O_O
#303 [02:48] <aetherian> yeh
#304 [02:48] <aetherian> BAN HI-
#305 [02:48] <jordonias> i like the HUGE paypal button
#306 [02:48] <aetherian> ...
#307 [02:49] <aetherian> I was about to comment on that
#308 [02:49] <KillSpammer> jordonias, it was pretty much needed, he has no monies
#309 [02:49] <aetherian> a mite big, don't you think?
#310 [02:49] <jordonias> KillSpammer: oh i see, thats cute
#311 [02:49] <aetherian> ...
#312 [02:49] <aetherian> " $20 or more reserved spot for life, and a colored name of there choosing!
#313 [02:49] <aetherian> "
#314 [02:49] <aetherian> that shoudl be their
#315 [02:49] <aetherian> not there
#316 [02:50] <aetherian> *should
#317 [02:50] <Checkzor> :(
#318 [02:50] <Checkzor> was tired when I wrote that
#319 [02:50] <aetherian> ohhh, want me to point out more?
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#321 [02:52] <aetherian> use of the word essense, I found a "your" that should be you'r- oh what am I saying.
#322 [02:52] <feenyx> essence*
#323 [02:52] <aetherian> ...no duh
#324 [02:52] <aetherian> just one more correction
#325 [02:53] <aetherian> then I will close the tap
#326 [02:53] <aetherian> tab
#327 [02:53] <relsqui> oh, I liked "tap." I thought it was a metaphor--you turn the editorial tap on and off
#328 [02:53] <relsqui> like a faucet
#329 [02:53] <aetherian> "Cursing Is aloud"
#330 [02:53] <aetherian> that should be allowed
#331 [02:53] <Checkzor> alrighty
#332 [02:53] <relsqui> it might be both
#333 [02:53] <jordonias> nope
#334 [02:53] <Checkzor> Getting on that :P
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#336 [02:54] <aetherian> while you're on the job, care for me to be even more nitpickety?
#337 [02:54] <aetherian> ope
#338 [02:54] <Checkzor> go for it
#339 [02:54] <aetherian> I gotta go soon
#340 [02:55] <Checkzor> killspammer
#341 [02:55] <jordonias> Checkzor: this gonna be 24/7?
#342 [02:55] <aetherian> oi you
#343 [02:55] <Checkzor> yup
#344 [02:55] <Checkzor> on a dedicated machine
#345 [02:55] <aetherian> put me on the whitelist >.>
#346 [02:55] <Checkzor> 1gb line speed
#347 [02:55] <Checkzor> go in game
#348 [02:55] <Checkzor> and say the magic word
#349 [02:55] <jordonias> its pokemon
#350 [02:56] <aetherian> done
#351 [02:56] <relsqui> it's nice that the server I play MC on also runs an IRC bot. when it loses connection I can just keep an eye on channel to see when it comes back
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#353 [02:56] <OODavo> jordonias: No, it's Pokémon. :P
#354 [02:58] <relsqui> Checkzor: that looks like fun
#355 [02:58] <relsqui> what makes true survival true? or rather--as opposed to what?
#356 [02:58] <relsqui> (I'm not really familiar with the range of public servers)
#357 [02:59] <xales> Some of them make the /give command public
#358 [03:00] <relsqui> ah
#359 [03:01] <relsqui> yeah, that'd do it :)
#360 [03:01] <relsqui> I should probably go to bed instead of waiting for the server to come back up >_>
#361 [03:02] <relsqui> .... and the next time I looked at the main menu it said "Take frequent breaks!"
#362 [03:02] <relsqui> I do believe that is my cue
#363 [03:02] <jordonias> no
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#365 [03:02] <jordonias> that means play all night
#366 [03:02] <Laur3ns> hi, i got a prob
#367 [03:02] <jordonias> her laren, whast the prob
#368 [03:03] <Laur3ns> i cant start minecraft
#369 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you?
#370 [03:03] <jordonias> what's it do
#371 [03:03] <Laur3ns> i log in and thn it quits
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#373 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean "quits"?
#374 [03:04] <Laur3ns> the windows go's away
#375 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> Do you get a crash report, or an error log?
#376 [03:04] <Laur3ns> yep
#377 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> Could you please paste them at www.pastebin.com?
#378 [03:05] <Laur3ns> i text-document
#379 [03:05] <Laur3ns> a
#380 [03:05] <Laur3ns> i cant get it now
#381 [03:05] <Laur3ns> ...
#382 [03:05] <Laur3ns> im on a other pc
#383 [03:05] <Laur3ns> im at school :)
#384 [03:06] <Laur3ns> but if i did that, whats next
#385 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> Ah, it would help if you were on the computer that has the trouble
#386 [03:06] <Laur3ns> ok
#387 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> We would look at it, and tell you what the problem is
#388 [03:06] <Laur3ns> ok, thn i do that when im at home
#389 [03:06] <Laur3ns> thanks for hgelp
#390 [03:06] <Laur3ns> help
#391 [03:10] <relsqui> by the way--speaking of resolved problems--I eventually finished my skin :) I am pretty pleased with it
#392 [03:11] <jordonias> is it a cat person
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#395 [03:13] <relsqui> no?
#396 [03:13] <relsqui> it's vaguely me-ish. but square.
#397 [03:13] <jordonias> lame
#398 [03:13] <relsqui> it helps that I have a fairly distinctive head (mohawk)
#399 [03:13] <relsqui> after seeing a rocket avatar on minecraftskins.com I kind of want to make a ghost
#400 [03:14] <jordonias> i want a cat person
#401 [03:14] <relsqui> why not make one?
#402 [03:16] <jordonias> can it be furry
#403 [03:16] <relsqui> uh, it can be textured to look furry
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#409 [03:21] <XaoMoaX> Other than decoration, what is lapis useable for?
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#412 [03:24] <Zemedelphos> Dyes
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#414 [03:26] <XaoMoaX> oh...a shame
#415 [03:27] <XaoMoaX> I have a ton of it, but don't wanna dye anything
#416 [03:28] <relsqui> yeah, I was disappointed by that too
#417 [03:28] <relsqui> I'm looking forward to gems being more interesting
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#419 [03:28] <relsqui> but my wishlist basically consists of a lot of "let me make/mix more things!"
#420 [03:29] <relsqui> I want *all* the plants to be cultivatable, basically :)
#421 [03:30] <relsqui> and gem blocks, and and.
#422 [03:30] <relsqui> pumpkin pie XD
#423 [03:30] <relsqui> okay, I'm done.
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#425 [03:34] <relsqui> jordonias: there are totally cats on minecraftskins.com btw :)
#426 [03:34] <jordonias> omg no way
#427 [03:35] <relsqui> search for "cat " with the space after it
#428 [03:35] <relsqui> will keep you from getting uploader usernames with "cat" in them
#429 [03:35] <relsqui> most of them are mislabeled/weird but a few are really good
#430 [03:35] <relsqui> there's a pretty siamese
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#432 [03:47] <aetherian> night
#433 [03:47] <aetherian> guys
#434 [03:47] <aetherian> noew
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#439 [04:02] <GuluGulu> mroning
#440 [04:06] <jordonias> morning? wtf
#441 [04:08] <relsqui> jordonias: believe it or not, time zones exist
#442 [04:09] <LordEddi> Lies!
#443 [04:09] <LordEddi> Filthy lies!
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#446 [04:19] <Kruz> How do you use a gift code?
#447 [04:20] <Sqozza> www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#448 [04:20] <Sqozza> iirc
#449 [04:20] <Sqozza> LOLIMPATIENTASS
#450 [04:21] <relsqui> "you PM it to me and I'll set it up for you" >_>
#451 [04:21] * relsqui is another kind of ass than an impatient one
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#453 [05:02] <relsqui> oh man, you know what would be fun? minecraft seasons.
#454 [05:03] <relsqui> have deciduous trees change color and then drop leaves, snow fall, snow melt, new leaves, etc.
#455 [05:03] <relsqui> and the availability of certain ground-level resources vary (like flowers, pumpkins)
#456 [05:04] <relsqui> have each season be about a real-life day, or a bit more maybe
#457 [05:12] <KillSpammer> relsqui, suggested notch doesn't want it i think.
#458 [05:15] <Oerg866> god damnit
#459 [05:15] <Oerg866> why is the server software so imperformant
#460 [05:15] <Oerg866> (read: SLOW AS SHIT)
#461 [05:18] <Oerg866> does the software do multi-CPU usage?
#462 [05:18] <Oerg866> if so, then i'll stick something in the second socket
#463 [05:20] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't
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#467 [05:45] <jorjo> Hi. I started to play minecraft a few days ago. No i wondered who to get into some multiplayer action.
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#469 [05:47] <jorjo> Could anyone give me a link, where i can find some ip´s of multiplayer servers, where i´d be welcome?
#470 [05:47] <GuluGulu> hmm
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#472 [05:48] <GuluGulu> there is a thread in mc forums about smp
#473 [05:48] <GuluGulu> http://servers.minecraftforum.net/
#474 [05:48] <GuluGulu> not sure if it's that one
#475 [05:48] <GuluGulu> but there is one in forums
#476 [05:49] <jorjo> thx i´ll check that.
#477 [05:50] <GuluGulu> what type of server u looking for btw ?
#478 [06:00] <CornstarchPudding> Everyone switch off Apocalypse!
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#604 [06:15] <mib_3yqlz1> hello
#605 [06:16] <mib_3yqlz1> im planning to buy the game via credit card
#606 [06:16] <mib_3yqlz1> but doing so, it wants me to create a code 8-12 letters and numbers
#607 [06:16] <mib_3yqlz1> what ist this code for!?
#608 [06:18] <CornstarchPudding> You credit card code?
#609 [06:19] <mib_3yqlz1> no
#610 [06:19] <mib_3yqlz1> thats 3 letters
#611 [06:19] <mib_3yqlz1> im talking about that long code you have to create on your own
#612 [06:20] <mib_3yqlz1> 8-12 letters and #
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#614 [06:21] <Redskye> hey guys Right, I have a server which i want to install whitelisting to as to prevent griefers
#615 [06:21] <CornstarchPudding> Do credit cards only have three digits? That doesn't seem secure
#616 [06:21] <mib_3yqlz1> nooo
#617 [06:21] <mib_3yqlz1> thats the creditcardnumber you are talking about
#618 [06:21] <CornstarchPudding> Redskye: I'd say Bukkit
#619 [06:22] <Redskye> I have bukkit
#620 [06:22] <Redskye> Each time i google search how to download minecraft whitelist
#621 [06:22] <Redskye> it always bloody shows me servers that have whitelist
#622 [06:22] <CornstarchPudding> I'd think it'd be a option..
#623 [06:23] <Redskye> i can't see anything with it though
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#625 [06:26] <Ojeu> Greetings earthlings. I need some help finding 303's modloader, I've searched the web and so far only found a broken link..
#626 [06:27] <CornstarchPudding> 303's modloader is Risugami's now
#627 [06:27] <Redskye> its a bit out of date
#628 [06:27] <Redskye> wait
#629 [06:27] <Redskye> hang on
#630 [06:27] <Redskye> i got minecraft_mod133
#631 [06:27] <Ojeu> I see, I guess this mod is a bit out of date then (controllerbloc), since I tried it with Risugami's.
#632 [06:28] <CornstarchPudding> Redskye: I don't really know much about Bukkit, you might have better luck in #bukkit
#633 [06:28] <Redskye> ok
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#636 [06:48] <minecrafteer> Hey, what does it mean if I find a bunch of dirt deep underground?
#637 [06:48] <minecrafteer> Does it mean there's a dungeon nearby or something or is it just random?
#638 [06:48] <GuluGulu> i guess it's random , not sure tho..
#639 [06:48] <minecrafteer> Or does it mean I'm (somehow) near the surface?
#640 [06:49] <minecrafteer> Man, if I broke through the bottom of the ocean, that'd be pretty bad
#641 [06:49] <GuluGulu> the surface option sounds more posible
#642 [06:50] <minecrafteer> but
#643 [06:50] <minecrafteer> i'm about eight blocks off the lowest possible elevation
#644 [06:51] <minecrafteer> ?
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#646 [06:51] <Redskye> Computer crash O-o
#647 [06:52] <Redskye> right try connecting now
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#649 [06:52] <minecrafteer> so dirt doesn't mean anything when encountered underground?
#650 [06:53] <minecrafteer> or at least, it doesn't have to mean danger of some sort?
#651 [06:53] <minecrafteer> (surface = danger because creeper access)
#652 [06:53] <ConMan8> It means there could be more dirt adjacent to that dirt [/obvious]
#653 [06:57] <minecrafteer> :|
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#655 [06:59] <KillSpammer> minecrafteer, shouldn't you be a minecraftee
#656 [07:00] <minecrafteer> ?
#657 [07:00] <KillSpammer> dw
#658 [07:00] <Ojeu> So now I managed to install the modloader and the updated version of the mod, but when I flick levers off the game crashes. What to do?
#659 [07:00] <minecrafteer> dw?
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#664 [07:33] <Oerg866> anyone know what I can do to increase server performance?
#665 [07:40] <fogWraith> Assign more ram, not playing on the server you host from, put at the very least the world on a ramdrive
#666 [07:40] <Pie> drink Aprijuice
#667 [07:40] <fogWraith> ^
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#676 [08:14] <Caradhras> Hi all! I installed a minecraft server at home (with the official minecraft_server.jar from minecraft.net) and I would like to add a whitelist on it. How can i do that? Do I need another server or a wrapper to do this?
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#682 [08:31] <BarryCarlyon> Caradhras: that requires a mod such as bukkit. Whitelist is not part of the core Minecraft server.
#683 [08:31] <Caradhras> Ok! Thx!
#684 [08:31] <Caradhras> I'll watch that
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#687 [08:53] <S1GNaL> Why is my MINECRAFT WORLD GONE!:?
#688 [08:54] <BarryCarlyon> Caradhras: there are a couple of other options. Some people are using logmein hamanchi, and those on Linux based servers can configure IP Tables.
#689 [08:54] <BarryCarlyon> S1GNaL: can you elaborate?
#690 [08:54] <S1GNaL> What is that?
#691 [08:55] <BarryCarlyon> What do you mean why is your world gone?
#692 [08:55] <BarryCarlyon> What has happened.
#693 [08:55] <BarryCarlyon> Elaborate means "to expand"
#694 [08:55] <BarryCarlyon> Loosley
#695 [08:55] <S1GNaL> Dont know... Yester day i saved and i shutted down my computer then now my world is gone
#696 [08:56] <jamster> do most people use - Minecraft_Server.exe for windows? I have 3g's of ram and a dual xeon 2.5gh processors but the program runs crappy. Is there a non gui based one that would do the same thing?
#697 [08:56] <BarryCarlyon> Single or mutliplayer.
#698 [08:56] <BarryCarlyon> jamster: yes. 'sec
#699 [08:57] <S1GNaL> Single
#700 [08:57] <BarryCarlyon> S1GNaL: odd must of failed to save proerply.
#701 [08:57] <S1GNaL> Has this something to do with nether?
#702 [08:58] <BarryCarlyon> S1GNaL: I don't know.
#703 [08:58] <S1GNaL> :s
#704 [08:58] <BarryCarlyon> jamster: grab the server.jar and on command prompt navigate the the folder and use: java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui should do the job
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#706 [08:59] <BarryCarlyon> jamster: details are at hte bottom of http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp Can't garentee you will get better performance tho.
#707 [08:59] <jamster> alright thanks!
#708 [09:00] <S1GNaL> So you cant help me?
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#712 [09:05] <Caradhras> BarryCarlyon: Thx! It works perfectly with Bukkit and Whitelist 1.8
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#717 [09:28] <jamster> With my server when i connect i get booted when i connect and it says disconnect.overflow
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#719 [09:28] <xales> jamster: Any mods?
#720 [09:28] <jamster> nope
#721 [09:29] <xales> Has it always done this?
#722 [09:29] <jamster> this is the first time in setting up a server
#723 [09:29] <xales> Do you have an Atheros NIC, by any chance?
#724 [09:29] <jamster> no
#725 [09:30] <jamster> i mean it's not a powerhouse machine .. but it has a decent graphics card with 3gb's of ram and dual xeon 2.5ghz processors
#726 [09:30] <jamster> and i am the only one trying to connect
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#728 [09:31] <xales> What model of NIC is it?
#729 [09:31] <jamster> how can i find out?
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#731 [09:32] <xales> Running Windows, I assume?
#732 [09:32] <jamster> isn't atheros NIC a wireless card?
#733 [09:32] <jamster> yeah
#734 [09:32] <jamster> xp
#735 [09:32] <jamster> newest java
#736 [09:32] <xales> rightclick on My Computer -> Properties -> Hardware tab -> Device Manager -> Network Adapters
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#738 [09:33] <jamster> Intel(R) PRO/100 S Server Adapter
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#740 [09:36] <xales> jamster: Any firewall running?
#741 [09:37] <jamster> no
#742 [09:37] <jamster> i mean i can connect and run around for a bit before getting that message
#743 [09:37] <jamster> the level is building itself when i log-in
#744 [09:38] <jamster> a lot of endless pit around the small island i am in
#745 [09:38] <xales> How are you launching the server?
#746 [09:39] <jamster> through java using the command-line they use on the site - the gui hung up a lot so that's why i am not using the exe
#747 [09:40] <xales> What else is running on the server?
#748 [09:40] <jamster> nothing
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#751 [09:41] <jamster> only 16% of my cpu is being used and only 2gb's of memory
#752 [09:41] <xales> What was the issue with using the GUI?
#753 [09:41] <jamster> actually i have 4gb's of ram
#754 [09:42] <jamster> the GUI hung up through vnc - it wasn't refreshing the program screen and i couldn't type commands
#755 [09:42] <jamster> but doing it through cmd fixed all of that
#756 [09:42] <xales> that makes me think something else is wrong, because it shouldn't do that...
#757 [09:42] <xales> have you tried reinstalling Java?
#758 [09:43] <jamster> no but i can try that
#759 [09:43] <jamster> so you don't think i should just log-in and have the world build itself
#760 [09:44] <xales> That wouldn't create an overflow issue
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#762 [09:48] <Szernex> Anyone got a private server and is willing to let me play on it? :< I don't want one of these big servers where everything is full with big buildings -.-
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#770 [10:17] <mib_ezgei3> Minecraft always crashes on my laptop as soon as i start it, can it be fixed?
#771 [10:18] <xales> mib_ezgei3: Depends
#772 [10:18] <xales> Is there a crash report?
#773 [10:18] <mib_ezgei3> Yea ill get it.
#774 [10:18] <xales> Paste it on http://pastebin.com/ please
#775 [10:18] <Sqozza> Oh finally.
#776 [10:19] <Sqozza> Not "it broke fx pls"
#777 [10:19] <Sqozza> And pasting the log into chart
#778 [10:19] <Sqozza> chat*
#779 [10:19] <Sqozza> And closing after 30 seconds of no response.
#780 [10:19] <mib_ezgei3> Ok
#781 [10:19] <mib_ezgei3> Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.2_02 OS: Windows Vista (x86) version 6.0 Java: 1.6.0_22, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode, sharing), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family version 2.1.0 - Build 8.15.10.1808, Intel java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: input == null! at javax.image
#782 [10:19] <xales> I said, don't paste it in here
#783 [10:19] <xales> paste it on http://pastebin.com
#784 [10:19] <xolotl> Sqozza: You forgot saying "anyone???" after a few seconds, before the close
#785 [10:20] <Sqozza> REVERSE
#786 [10:21] <mib_ezgei3> How are they supposed to reply?
#787 [10:22] <xales> You would paste in here the link it sends you to
#788 [10:22] <xales> after you paste it
#789 [10:22] <mib_ezgei3> Uh I got no link.
#790 [10:22] <xales> Did you paste it and click 'submit'?
#791 [10:22] <mib_ezgei3> Yeah
#792 [10:23] <xales> The link is the one it sent you to.
#793 [10:23] <xales> Look in the URL bar
#794 [10:23] <xales> ._.
#795 [10:23] <mib_ezgei3> Oh type the link ok, sorry i was confused
#796 [10:23] <mib_ezgei3> http://pastebin.com/Uj8gmWak
#797 [10:24] <xales> !reinstall
#798 [10:24] <xales> Do that
#799 [10:24] <mib_ezgei3> ok
#800 [10:25] <xolotl> mib_ezgei3: What OS is this, btw?
#801 [10:25] <mib_ezgei3> What if you play on the browser.
#802 [10:25] <mib_ezgei3> Minecraft says its Vista, but its Windows 7
#803 [10:26] <xolotl> On my laptop, I always have to replace the LWJGL files with the 2.6 release from lwjgl.org in order to play, though I don't remember what the error is when it doesn't work
#804 [10:26] <xales> mib_ezgei3: Are you playing Classic or Beta?
#805 [10:26] <xolotl> That's Linux though (though it *is* on a very similar graphics chipset)
#806 [10:26] <mib_ezgei3> Beta
#807 [10:27] <xales> mib_ezgei3: Try downloading it
#808 [10:27] <xolotl> Anyway, if the reinstall stuff doesn't work, you *could* try replacing jinput.jar and lwjgl*.jar in %appdata%/.minecraft/bin with the files from lwjgl 2.6, and then the files in "natives" too
#809 [10:27] <mib_ezgei3> Xolotl: Does that work if u play online?
#810 [10:28] <xolotl> mib_ezgei3: You mean in the browser? I've actually never tried playing it in-browser
#811 [10:28] <xales> mib_ezgei3: Try playing the download version first. It is exactly the same as the one in the browser but it runs better
#812 [10:28] <mib_ezgei3> ok
#813 [10:28] <xales> xolotl: http://i.imgur.com/t8pDW.jpg
#814 [10:28] <xolotl> xales: heh, nice
#815 [10:29] <mib_ezgei3> lol
#816 [10:29] <mib_ezgei3> Ugh the website wont load
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#818 [10:33] <mib_ezgei3> The download wont load.
#819 [10:33] <xales> The site is down right now, just gotta wait
#820 [10:33] <mib_ezgei3> oh
#821 [10:35] <mib_8kdedn> hey, I didn't get my key yet... I sent an email to support, but they didn't answer!
#822 [10:36] <feenyx> they will
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#824 [10:36] <mib_8kdedn> ye but I'm waiting for the key for almost two weeks
#825 [10:37] <mib_ezgei3> I know, i've submitted to Mojang almost 2 months ago.
#826 [10:37] <xales> mib_8kdedn: Did you look in your profile?
#827 [10:38] <mib_8kdedn> yep, there is no key standing
#828 [10:38] <xales> Email daniel@mojang.com
#829 [10:38] <mib_ezgei3> The launcher wont even start.
#830 [10:38] <xales> mib_ezgei3: Is there an error?
#831 [10:39] <mib_ezgei3> No the launcher itself isnt starting
#832 [10:39] <xales> Define "isn't starting"
#833 [10:39] <xales> What happens when you try to start it
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#835 [10:39] <mib_ezgei3> there we go
#836 [10:40] <mib_ezgei3> Black screen
#837 [10:40] <feenyx> my profile on minecraft.net doesn't show any keys either. Do they show on younger accounts only?
#838 [10:40] <mib_ezgei3> It crashed
#839 [10:40] <mib_8kdedn> mib_ezgei3: so did you bought the game and didn't get the key, too??
#840 [10:40] <xales> mib_8kdedn: You only get a key if you bought a gift code.
#841 [10:40] <xolotl> mib_ezgei3, mib_8kdedn - you guys should change your nicks; really difficult to discern between you when you're both talking. :)
#842 [10:40] <mib_ezgei3> Yea, it works on my family computer, but not my laptop.
#843 [10:41] <xales> mib_ezgei3: How much RAM does your computer have?
#844 [10:41] <mib_ezgei3> lemme check
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#846 [10:41] <mib_ezgei3> 3GB
#847 [10:42] <xales> mib_ezgei3: Did you try the reinstall steps that I linked you to?
#848 [10:42] <mib_ezgei3> It didnt let me move to the delete thing
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#850 [10:43] <xales> Open the start menu. In the search box, type %appdata% and hit enter
#851 [10:43] <mib_ezgei3> I did
#852 [10:43] <mib_ezgei3> it doesnt let me delete it
#853 [10:43] <xales> Is there anything in the .minecraft folder?
#854 [10:43] <mib_ezgei3> ya
#855 [10:43] <xales> Do you have Minecraft open?
#856 [10:43] <mib_ezgei3> no but it thinks i do
#857 [10:44] <xales> What does it say
#858 [10:44] <mib_ezgei3> It says its running on another program, but i dont have minecraft running
#859 [10:44] <feenyx> a simple reboot ought to fix that
#860 [10:44] <mib_ezgei3> ok
#861 [10:45] <mib_ezgei3> brb
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#864 [10:49] <ezeigi> Hey im that eziegi guy
#865 [10:50] <ezeigi> I deleted the.minecraft folder, now do i just run minecraft again?
#866 [10:50] <ezeigi> anyone?
#867 [10:51] <xales> yes
#868 [10:51] <ezeigi> I deletd the .minecraft folder, but it still crashes.
#869 [10:53] <xales> Is it the same error?
#870 [10:53] <ezeigi> yup
#871 [10:53] <xales> Do you have any firewall or antivirus program running?
#872 [10:54] <ezeigi> i have an antivirus
#873 [10:54] <ezeigi> it takes me to the loading screen but thats it
#874 [10:54] <xales> Which antivirus?
#875 [10:54] <ezeigi> norton
#876 [10:54] <xales> Disable it completely
#877 [10:55] <ezeigi> ok
#878 [10:55] <xales> Norton causes lots of problems. It is a piece of shit.
#879 [10:55] <ezeigi> lol
#880 [10:56] <ezeigi> but i have norton on the family computer, and minecraft works fine
#881 [10:56] <xales> Disable it anyway
#882 [10:56] <ezeigi> ok i dont kno how though
#883 [10:56] <xales> Did you try?
#884 [10:57] <ezeigi> I dont know how you disable it
#885 [10:57] <xales> Double click it's icon in the lower right
#886 [10:57] <xales> and look for the disable option
#887 [10:57] <ezeigi> ok i did
#888 [10:57] <xales> Is it disabled?
#889 [10:57] <ezeigi> YA
#890 [10:58] <xales> Try running it again?
#891 [10:58] <ezeigi> ok
#892 [10:58] <ezeigi> same problem
#893 [10:58] <xales> Where does it get stuck?
#894 [10:58] <ezeigi> Right after the loading screen
#895 [10:59] <xales> Try updating your video card drivers
#896 [10:59] <ezeigi> how?
#897 [11:00] <feenyx> I'm thinking I need to make some faqs
#898 [11:00] <xales> feenyx: DopeGhoti is/said he would make an FAQbot
#899 [11:00] <xales> ezeigi: You go to the Intel website where you download drivers, and you put in your graphics card information, then it gives you a file to download
#900 [11:00] <ezeigi> ok
#901 [11:03] <ezeigi> Do u have a link, i think im messing something up
#902 [11:03] <xales> No, I don't know what model of graphics card you have.
#903 [11:03] <ezeigi> oh
#904 [11:03] <xales> Try this. http://www.intel.com/support/detect.htm?iid=dc_iduu
#905 [11:05] <ezeigi> it says its unknown
#906 [11:06] <xales> Open Control Panel
#907 [11:06] <ezeigi> ok
#908 [11:06] <xales> click System and Maintenance
#909 [11:06] <xales> then Device Manager
#910 [11:06] <ezeigi> ok
#911 [11:07] <xales> click on 'Video (something)'
#912 [11:07] <ezeigi> ok
#913 [11:07] <xales> what does it say under it?
#914 [11:07] <ezeigi> uh i dont see it
#915 [11:07] <xales> ok, try this instead.
#916 [11:08] <xales> click start, in the search box type dxdiag and hit enter
#917 [11:08] <xales> it will ask you about WHQL or something, just click Yes
#918 [11:08] <ezeigi> ok
#919 [11:08] <xales> Click the 'save to file' button
#920 [11:08] <xales> and save it on your desktop
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#922 [11:09] <Laur3ns> hi
#923 [11:09] <xales> hello
#924 [11:09] <ezeigi> did it
#925 [11:09] <Laur3ns> i got a prob with minecraft
#926 [11:09] <xales> ezeigi: Open the file now, and copy and paste the whole thing on http://pastebin.com/
#927 [11:09] <xales> Laur3ns: Would you like me to just magically fix it, or can you tell me what the problem is
#928 [11:09] <feenyx> Laur3ns: can you describe the problem, too please?
#929 [11:10] <Laur3ns> when i start minecraft the window close automatic
#930 [11:10] <Laur3ns> when i logged in
#931 [11:11] <Laur3ns> i get a error file
#932 [11:11] <ezeigi> k shuld i send u the link
#933 [11:11] <Laur3ns> with pastebin.com?
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#935 [11:12] <ezeigi> ya
#936 [11:12] <ezeigi> heres the link xales
#937 [11:12] <xales> Laur3ns: Paste the error file on http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link
#938 [11:12] <ezeigi> http://pastebin.com/Bc75UUkv
#939 [11:12] <Laur3ns> My link is http://pastebin.com/X20qSYx0
#940 [11:13] <Eysyss> http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://otokiralamaerzurum.com/&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAEoATAAOABAvdCi6gRIA1gAYgV0ci1VUw&cd=NBAX3YRKjZU&usg=AFQjCNG4GD81JX6FqDTOkdRX0GsqVhIfWg Sex Sex Sex
#941 [11:13] <Eysyss> http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://otokiralamaerzurum.com/&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAEoATAAOABAvdCi6gRIA1gAYgV0ci1VUw&cd=NBAX3YRKjZU&usg=AFQjCNG4GD81JX6FqDTOkdRX0GsqVhIfWg Sex Sex Sex
#942 [11:13] <Eysyss> http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://otokiralamaerzurum.com/&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAEoATAAOABAvdCi6gRIA1gAYgV0ci1VUw&cd=NBAX3YRKjZU&usg=AFQjCNG4GD81JX6FqDTOkdRX0GsqVhIfWg Sex Sex Sex
#943 [11:13] <Eysyss> http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://otokiralamaerzurum.com/&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAEoATAAOABAvdCi6gRIA1gAYgV0ci1VUw&cd=NBAX3YRKjZU&usg=AFQjCNG4GD81JX6FqDTOkdRX0GsqVhIfWg Sex Sex Sex
#944 [11:13] <feenyx> !k Eysyss out
#945 [11:13] <Eysyss> http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://otokiralamaerzurum.com/&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAEoATAAOABAvdCi6gRIA1gAYgV0ci1VUw&cd=NBAX3YRKjZU&usg=AFQjCNG4GD81JX6FqDTOkdRX0GsqVhIfWg Sex Sex Sex
#946 [11:13] <feenyx> !k Eysyss #minecrafthelp out
#947 [11:13] <feenyx> meh
#948 [11:13] <Eysyss> http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://otokiralamaerzurum.com/&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAEoATAAOABAvdCi6gRIA1gAYgV0ci1VUw&cd=NBAX3YRKjZU&usg=AFQjCNG4GD81JX6FqDTOkdRX0GsqVhIfWg Sex Sex Sex
#949 [11:13] <feenyx> silly aubot
#950 [11:13] <Eysyss> http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://otokiralamaerzurum.com/&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAEoATAAOABAvdCi6gRIA1gAYgV0ci1VUw&cd=NBAX3YRKjZU&usg=AFQjCNG4GD81JX6FqDTOkdRX0GsqVhIfWg Sex Sex Sex
#951 [11:13] <Eysyss> http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://otokiralamaerzurum.com/&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAEoATAAOABAvdCi6gRIA1gAYgV0ci1VUw&cd=NBAX3YRKjZU&usg=AFQjCNG4GD81JX6FqDTOkdRX0GsqVhIfWg Sex Sex Sex
#952 [11:13] <Eysyss> http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://otokiralamaerzurum.com/&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAEoATAAOABAvdCi6gRIA1gAYgV0ci1VUw&cd=NBAX3YRKjZU&usg=AFQjCNG4GD81JX6FqDTOkdRX0GsqVhIfWg Sex Sex Sex
#953 [11:13] <ezeigi> can somebody ban this guy?
#954 [11:13] * xales kicked Eysyss from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Eysyss)
#955 [11:13] <feenyx> ./ignore works though
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#957 [11:13] <ezeigi> thank you
#958 [11:13] <ezeigi> http://pastebin.com/Bc75UUkv
#959 [11:14] <mib_8kdedn> hm sorry what can I do, that I'll get my key finally
#960 [11:14] <xales> mib_8kdedn: Did you buy a key?
#961 [11:14] <xales> Key = gift code
#962 [11:14] <mib_8kdedn> Yes i did
#963 [11:14] <xales> or just the game itself
#964 [11:14] <mib_8kdedn> I bought the key
#965 [11:15] <mib_8kdedn> or "gift code"
#966 [11:15] <xales> What username did you use?
#967 [11:15] <Laur3ns> is any1 looking at my error file?
#968 [11:15] <xales> ezeigi: Do you have any other programs open?
#969 [11:15] <xales> Laur3ns: Did you give us a link to it?
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#971 [11:15] <Laur3ns> yes
#972 [11:15] <Laur3ns> http://pastebin.com/X20qSYx0
#973 [11:16] <xales> Laur3ns: You need to update your graphics card drivers
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#975 [11:16] <ezeigi> heres my dx diag thing http://pastebin.com/Bc75UUkv
#976 [11:16] <Laur3ns> and how can i do that?
#977 [11:16] <ezeigi> go to then intel page
#978 [11:17] <xales> ezeigi: You need to get the update from the people who made your computer
#979 [11:17] <xales> Go to their website, and look on the download section
#980 [11:17] <ezeigi> u mean windows or dell?
#981 [11:17] <Laur3ns> where is the intel page
#982 [11:17] <xales> Dell
#983 [11:17] <ezeigi> ok
#984 [11:18] <xales> Laur3ns: You have to go to the ATI website, because you have an ATI graphics card
#985 [11:18] <Laur3ns> online or on my pc?
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#987 [11:18] <Laur3ns> ok, i'ill see what i can do
#988 [11:18] <Laur3ns> thanks for now
#989 [11:18] <ezeigi> now what
#990 [11:19] <xales> ezeigi: You need to download the video driver for your computer model and install it
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#992 [11:19] <ezeigi> ok
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#995 [11:20] <ezeigi> it just has buy deals, nothing about video drivers
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#997 [11:22] <xales> ezeigi: You are on the wrong site.
#998 [11:22] <ezeigi> oh
#999 [11:22] <xales> You need to go to the 'support' section
#1000 [11:22] <ezeigi> ok
#1001 [11:25] <ezeigi> theres four kinds of updates but im not sure which one to choose
#1002 [11:25] <xales> What are they?
#1003 [11:26] <ezeigi> ill send u the link
#1004 [11:26] <ezeigi> http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?os=W764&catid=6&dateid=-1&impid=-1&osl=EN&typeid=-1&formatid=-1&servicetag=&SystemID=INSPIRON1545&hidos=W764&hidlang=en&TabIndex=&scanSupported=False&scanConsent=False
#1005 [11:26] <xales> 'Intel - Driver'
#1006 [11:27] <ezeigi> ok
#1007 [11:32] <ezeigi> it gives me an download manager thing
#1008 [11:32] <xales> tell it to not use the download manager
#1009 [11:32] <xales> there is an option to bypass the manager
#1010 [11:32] <ezeigi> too late
#1011 [11:32] <ezeigi> how?
#1012 [11:32] <xales> ._.
#1013 [11:32] <xales> if you already did it, then it doesn't matter
#1014 [11:33] <ezeigi> i clicked but now its too late
#1015 [11:33] <ezeigi> well one proble, the managher wont load
#1016 [11:33] <ezeigi> *problem
#1017 [11:34] <xales> You click "Download via internet browser" instead of "Download with download manager"
#1018 [11:34] <xales> Or just this. ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/video/R260552.exe
#1019 [11:34] <ezeigi> well now everytime i click download it heads immediatly to the download manager
#1020 [11:34] <ezeigi> thanks
#1021 [11:36] <Szernex> Anyone got any suggestions for a MC planning tool?
#1022 [11:36] <Szernex> Except paper and pen
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#1024 [11:37] <mbentley> mspaint
#1025 [11:38] <ezeigi> its messing with my resoulution
#1026 [11:38] <ezeigi> thanks ill comeback if it still doesnt work
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#1028 [11:43] <eziegi> hey xales
#1029 [11:43] <eziegi> it crashed
#1030 [11:43] <eziegi> again
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#1032 [11:43] <xales> eziegi: Is it the same error?
#1033 [11:44] <eziegi> yes
#1034 [11:45] <jimbolaya> Hi, I'm having trouble connecting to my server. I keep getting kicked with the following message:
#1035 [11:45] <jimbolaya> Kicking /<my_client_ip>: You need to log in!
#1036 [11:45] <jimbolaya> I sign in in my client. What do I need to do on my server?
#1037 [11:45] <xales> You are using the wrong server software
#1038 [11:45] <xales> That is for the Classic server
#1039 [11:45] <jimbolaya> Ah. Thank you.
#1040 [11:45] <xales> !server
#1041 [11:49] <jimbolaya> Is minecraft-server.jar the old "Classic" version?
#1042 [11:49] <xolotl> jimbolaya: no, that's Beta
#1043 [11:49] <xales> xolotl: Nope
#1044 [11:50] <xales> the -jar is beta
#1045 [11:50] <xales> err
#1046 [11:50] <xales> the _jar is beta
#1047 [11:50] <xales> -jar is classic
#1048 [11:50] <jimbolaya> Sweet. Thanks.
#1049 [11:50] <xolotl> Oh, I thought that the classic stuff was distributed as a .zip
#1050 [11:51] <xales> the -jar is in the .zip
#1051 [11:51] <xolotl> ah, I was thinking URLs, not files. :)
#1052 [11:52] <xolotl> Offtopic in Great News, DFA1979 is apparently getting back together
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#1054 [11:52] <Laur3ns> hi again
#1055 [11:53] <Laur3ns> ... you just say that i had to update mt trivers with ati
#1056 [11:53] <Laur3ns> but i use intel, and i got the last version
#1057 [11:53] <Laur3ns> and it still dont work
#1058 [11:53] <xales> You have an ATI graphics card
#1059 [11:54] <xales> you need to get the drivers from ATI
#1060 [11:54] <Laur3ns> but by ati he ask me to fill in my family thing
#1061 [11:54] <Laur3ns> and i have not one of thm
#1062 [11:54] <Laur3ns> Select the product family your product belongs to:
#1063 [11:55] <Laur3ns> thats wat he say
#1064 [11:55] <xales> Open the Start Menu, in the search box, put dxdiag and press enter
#1065 [11:55] <Laur3ns> ok...
#1066 [11:56] <xales> Click 'yes' to the question about WHQL
#1067 [11:56] <Laur3ns> whats next?
#1068 [11:56] <xales> when it is finished loading, click the Save to file
#1069 [11:56] <xales> and save it to your desktop
#1070 [11:56] <Laur3ns> ok
#1071 [11:56] <xales> open the file, and copy and paste it to http://pastebin.com/
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#1073 [11:57] <Laur3ns> http://pastebin.com/B07uByNv
#1074 [11:57] <calatalee> Having a hard time running the game in browser on Mac computer. Is there anything I need to do to fix that
#1075 [11:58] <xales> calatalee: define 'hard time'
#1076 [11:58] <xales> Laur3ns: Did you see if it runs now?
#1077 [11:59] <calatalee> When I click the in browser link, it takes me to the applet window where the screen is just white. Apparently the game is not loading
#1078 [11:59] <Laur3ns> no , gonna try now
#1079 [11:59] <SinZ> Night
#1080 [11:59] <Laur3ns> wont work
#1081 [11:59] <xales> Laur3ns: Can you put the error on http://pastebin.com/ again
#1082 [12:00] <Laur3ns> pl
#1083 [12:00] <Laur3ns> ok
#1084 [12:00] <Laur3ns> http://pastebin.com/D2gis8ZS
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#1087 [12:02] <Kealper> feenyx: !kick not !k :P
#1088 [12:02] <xales> Laur3ns: It looks like you have a wrong driver installed also
#1089 [12:03] <Laur3ns> but my pc is new and i think it have to has the right things
#1090 [12:03] <xales> It does
#1091 [12:03] <xales> You just need to un-install the incorrect driver
#1092 [12:03] <Laur3ns> but can you help me thn with the right one>
#1093 [12:03] <Laur3ns> ok, so thats intel?
#1094 [12:04] <xales> no
#1095 [12:04] <xales> that is ATI
#1096 [12:04] <xales> look in Control Panel for ATI driver
#1097 [12:04] <xales> in the Uninstall section
#1098 [12:05] <Laur3ns> i have ati install manager
#1099 [12:05] <Laur3ns> and ati control center
#1100 [12:07] <xales> uninstall both
#1101 [12:07] <xales> install manager first
#1102 [12:13] <Laur3ns> ok
#1103 [12:14] <Laur3ns> done
#1104 [12:14] <xales> Reboot the computer and try running Minecraft again
#1105 [12:14] <Laur3ns> ok
#1106 [12:15] <Laur3ns> dont i have to instal a other driver?
#1107 [12:15] <xales> no
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#1109 [12:16] <Laur3ns> where can i install that manager?
#1110 [12:17] <Laur3ns> where can i find the instal
#1111 [12:17] <xales> You don't install anything now
#1112 [12:18] <xales> just restart the computer, and try to play again.
#1113 [12:18] <Laur3ns> i didn't install the manager, forget to read :)
#1114 [12:18] <Laur3ns> but where can i download that
#1115 [12:19] <Laur3ns> because is cant see my task bar any more
#1116 [12:19] <xales> you just need to restart the computer
#1117 [12:19] <Laur3ns> ok, so i leave the chat
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#1122 [12:23] <Laur3ns> hi,
#1123 [12:23] <Laur3ns> it still dont work
#1124 [12:23] <xales> is it the same error?
#1125 [12:24] <Laur3ns> sec...
#1126 [12:24] <Laur3ns> yes
#1127 [12:25] <Laur3ns> http://pastebin.com/LGTqxwK9
#1128 [12:25] <Laur3ns> this it
#1129 [12:25] <xales> You should ask on http://minecraftforum.net/ to see if anyone else has the error
#1130 [12:25] <Laur3ns> i allready did
#1131 [12:25] <Laur3ns> but nobody responce
#1132 [12:25] <Laur3ns> response
#1133 [12:25] <xales> oh wait...
#1134 [12:25] <xales> Kealper
#1135 [12:26] <Kealper> yessir
#1136 [12:26] <xales> Could this run Minecraft/even support OpenGL? Intel(R) HD Graphics (Core i3)
#1137 [12:26] <xales> see: http://pastebin.com/B07uByNv
#1138 [12:26] <Kealper> i'd assume so, that looks like the graphics thing that is part of the i3 stuff?
#1139 [12:27] <xales> Thats like a step down from integrated, isn't it? :P
#1140 [12:28] <Kealper> hmm....let me see if i can find anything to compare it to
#1141 [12:28] <Laur3ns> so, you maybe find it?
#1142 [12:29] <Kealper> mabye
#1143 [12:29] <Kealper> maybe*
#1144 [12:29] <Laur3ns> ok
#1145 [12:30] <Kealper> it's a laptop, right?
#1146 [12:30] <Laur3ns> no
#1147 [12:30] <Laur3ns> sorry ;D
#1148 [12:30] <Laur3ns> i got the problem on a desktop
#1149 [12:31] <Kealper> that's even better, because it means that it's got more power lol
#1150 [12:31] <Laur3ns> i got a laptop to, and it works there
#1151 [12:31] <Laur3ns> :P
#1152 [12:31] <Kealper> ok
#1153 [12:31] <Kealper> from what i can tell....it's probably an Intel GMA HD 2000
#1154 [12:32] <Laur3ns> so...
#1155 [12:32] <AndrewPH> so stop trying wolololo
#1156 [12:32] <AndrewPH> i am priest
#1157 [12:32] <AndrewPH> wololo
#1158 [12:32] <Laur3ns> haha
#1159 [12:32] <Kealper> dangit....a creeper just blew up my spawn
#1160 [12:32] <Laur3ns> :P
#1161 [12:32] <Kealper> ok...back to searching
#1162 [12:33] <Laur3ns> ok
#1163 [12:33] <Kealper> gosh....that was helpful
#1164 [12:34] <Laur3ns> but what do i got to do now?
#1165 [12:34] <Kealper> from the dell site.....it says it's got an "Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator"
#1166 [12:34] <dopeghoti> "Integrated" and "Accelerator" should not be used in the same hardware label.
#1167 [12:35] <Kealper> that depends, what was xales trying to help you with? i was not looking lol
#1168 [12:35] <Laur3ns> i cant run minecraft, so he that it was my drives
#1169 [12:35] <Laur3ns> driver
#1170 [12:35] <Laur3ns> and i uninstalled my ATI
#1171 [12:36] <Kealper> ok then, give me a few
#1172 [12:36] <Laur3ns> ok
#1173 [12:37] <Kealper> can you get me your desktop's service tag number?
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#1175 [12:37] <Laur3ns> yes, se
#1176 [12:37] <Laur3ns> sec
#1177 [12:37] <Laur3ns> 4CF6X4J
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#1180 [12:39] <mib_89wyyw> Hello!
#1181 [12:39] <mib_89wyyw> Anyone on?
#1182 [12:39] <_psyCtrl> hi there folks, does somebody have time to help me setting up a minecraft server..
#1183 [12:39] <mib_89wyyw> need some help actually....
#1184 [12:39] <Kealper> "Don't ask to asj, just ask!"
#1185 [12:39] <mib_89wyyw> Just.when i start up minecraft it closes..
#1186 [12:39] <Kealper> ask*
#1187 [12:39] <mib_89wyyw> i mean
#1188 [12:39] <mib_89wyyw> updates
#1189 [12:40] <mib_89wyyw> when it should get to main screen
#1190 [12:40] <mib_89wyyw> closes
#1191 [12:40] <mib_89wyyw> and minecraft classic
#1192 [12:40] <mib_89wyyw> all white,and laggy
#1193 [12:40] <mib_89wyyw> i mean
#1194 [12:40] <mib_89wyyw> cant move
#1195 [12:40] <mib_89wyyw> still,any JAVA application wont work
#1196 [12:40] <mib_89wyyw> *3d java
#1197 [12:40] <mib_89wyyw> Any help?
#1198 [12:40] <Kealper> Laur3ns: hopefully this link works http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&ServiceTag=4CF6X4J&SystemID=INSP_DSKTP_580&os=W764&osl=en&catid=&impid=
#1199 [12:40] <xales> _psyCtrl: What part of it do you need help with?
#1200 [12:40] <Laur3ns> ok
#1201 [12:41] <xales> mib_89wyyw: What are the specs of your computer?
#1202 [12:41] <Kealper> Laur3ns: down at the bottom drop-down list, called Video...drop that down and download the "Intel -Driver" one
#1203 [12:41] <mib_89wyyw> drivers work
#1204 [12:41] <mib_89wyyw> updated.
#1205 [12:41] <Laur3ns> ok
#1206 [12:41] <mib_89wyyw> Intel-driver?
#1207 [12:41] <mib_89wyyw> wait is it the "processor" driver?
#1208 [12:41] <xales> mib_89wyyw: Are you using Windows 7 or Vista?
#1209 [12:42] <mib_89wyyw> XP XD
#1210 [12:42] <xales> mib_89wyyw: That link was not for you.
#1211 [12:42] <mib_89wyyw> vista sucks
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#1213 [12:42] <mib_89wyyw> oh.
#1214 [12:42] <_psyCtrl> failed to start the server! java.net.socketexception: permission denied: sockets.
#1215 [12:42] <mib_89wyyw> soo about specs are..
#1216 [12:42] <mib_89wyyw> it worked before,xp,anything works but not 3D java
#1217 [12:42] <xales> mib_89wyyw: Start->run->dxdiag->click 'yes'->click save file, save to desktop->open file on desktop->paste all of it on http://pastebin.com/->give us the link it sends you to
#1218 [12:43] <mib_89wyyw> i re-istalled my sistem
#1219 [12:43] <Laur3ns> but there are many intel - drivers
#1220 [12:43] <xales> _psyCtrl: Do you have a firewall running?
#1221 [12:43] <mib_89wyyw> no no
#1222 [12:43] <mib_89wyyw> works too the DXdiag
#1223 [12:43] <Laur3ns> so i just pick the first one?
#1224 [12:43] <_psyCtrl> yea software and hardware
#1225 [12:43] <mib_89wyyw> I mean
#1226 [12:43] <xales> _psyCtrl: Disable both
#1227 [12:43] <mib_89wyyw> PC works perfectly
#1228 [12:43] <_psyCtrl> disable?
#1229 [12:43] <mib_89wyyw> java dosent work.
#1230 [12:43] <Kealper> Laur3ns: i guess it didn't work right then, i'll download it and give you the link to the file directly
#1231 [12:43] <xales> _psyCtrl: Disable.
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#1233 [12:43] <_psyCtrl> I'll try.. ._.
#1234 [12:43] <Laur3ns> ok
#1235 [12:43] <xales> mib_89wyyw: You need to run it so we can know your computer specs
#1236 [12:43] <mib_89wyyw> hmmm
#1237 [12:43] <mib_89wyyw> ok :|
#1238 [12:44] <xales> mib_89wyyw: You need to follow the steps for us to help
#1239 [12:44] <Laur3ns> but please hurry, i gonna eat in a couple minutes
#1240 [12:44] <Laur3ns> :P
#1241 [12:45] <Kealper> i sent you the link in pm
#1242 [12:45] <Laur3ns> ok
#1243 [12:45] <_psyCtrl> both now disabled, still the same error
#1244 [12:45] <mib_89wyyw> how i pm?
#1245 [12:46] <xales> _psyCtrl: What version of Windows, assuming Windows.
#1246 [12:46] <xales> mib_89wyyw: Don't PM anything.
#1247 [12:46] <xales> just paste the link here
#1248 [12:46] <_psyCtrl> win7
#1249 [12:46] <mib_89wyyw> just paste it here..
#1250 [12:46] <mib_89wyyw> http://pastebin.com/q1A5dvwG
#1251 [12:46] <mib_89wyyw> here.
#1252 [12:46] <_psyCtrl> x64
#1253 [12:47] <_psyCtrl> googled like #asdf but was unable to find a fix... :(
#1254 [12:47] <mib_89wyyw> i can give you
#1255 [12:47] <mib_89wyyw> the error that minecraft gives me
#1256 [12:47] <mib_89wyyw> interessed?
#1257 [12:47] <xales> mib_89wyyw: That would help
#1258 [12:47] <mib_89wyyw> kay.
#1259 [12:48] <xales> _psyCtrl: Are there any other 'security' programs running on your computer?
#1260 [12:48] <_psyCtrl> no
#1261 [12:48] <xales> are you logged in as an administrator/whatever
#1262 [12:49] <_psyCtrl> I guess yea, checking it
#1263 [12:49] <mib_89wyyw> http://pastebin.com/Yq0THGZ7
#1264 [12:49] <mib_89wyyw> here man.
#1265 [12:49] <xales> mib_89wyyw: When does it crash?
#1266 [12:50] <xales> _psyCtrl: Try running it as Administrator
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#1268 [12:50] <mib_89wyyw> told ya
#1269 [12:50] <mib_89wyyw> open game
#1270 [12:50] <Chasesan> Hello
#1271 [12:50] <mib_89wyyw> Enter the login info
#1272 [12:50] <_psyCtrl> running the server.bat as admin would help if I'm not admin?
#1273 [12:50] <mib_89wyyw> updates if needs to
#1274 [12:51] <mib_89wyyw> then before mojang thing
#1275 [12:51] <mib_89wyyw> Crash
#1276 [12:51] <xales> _psyCtrl: Do you want to run a Classic or Beta server?
#1277 [12:51] <mib_89wyyw> Still classic does a different thing
#1278 [12:51] <mib_89wyyw> lags
#1279 [12:51] <xales> mib_89wyyw: The error is with the sound driver, try updating the driver on that
#1280 [12:51] <xales> mib_89wyyw: It will lag, your graphics card is quite old.
#1281 [12:51] <Chasesan> which function would allow two switchs to alternatively open/close a set of doors (I already have the set combined to a single input)
#1282 [12:51] <_psyCtrl> eng is not my native lang btw
#1283 [12:51] <mib_89wyyw> no no
#1284 [12:51] <mib_89wyyw> it's java
#1285 [12:51] <mib_89wyyw> it worked before :)
#1286 [12:51] <mib_89wyyw> i re-istalled me os
#1287 [12:51] <xales> mib_89wyyw: Yes, Java is crashing, because Minecraft is in Java.
#1288 [12:52] <xales> The part that is crashing is the sound.
#1289 [12:52] <xales> You need to update the sound card drivr.
#1290 [12:52] <mib_89wyyw> yea lol.
#1291 [12:52] <mib_89wyyw> the sound card...
#1292 [12:52] <mib_89wyyw> I did but i mean
#1293 [12:52] <mib_89wyyw> what the hell white textures mean
#1294 [12:52] <_psyCtrl> how do I choose between classic and survival?
#1295 [12:52] <mib_89wyyw> when is the sound driver?
#1296 [12:52] <_psyCtrl> *beta
#1297 [12:52] <xales> _psyCtrl: It depends which server you downloaded. the one that came with server.bat is for Classic.
#1298 [12:53] <Chasesan> xor maybe?
#1299 [12:53] <mib_89wyyw> If you fix me this prob Xales
#1300 [12:53] <xales> Chasesan: No idea, sorry =/
#1301 [12:53] <mib_89wyyw> i love you O.o
#1302 [12:53] <xales> mib_89wyyw: As I said, you need to update sound card drivers
#1303 [12:53] <mib_89wyyw> anyway i re-istalled open AL
#1304 [12:53] <mib_89wyyw> i did yersterday
#1305 [12:53] <mib_89wyyw> i did both
#1306 [12:53] <xales> No, sound card driver
#1307 [12:53] <xales> anyway
#1308 [12:53] <mib_89wyyw> but it does appear is not that
#1309 [12:53] <xales> I have to go >.>
#1310 [12:53] <Chasesan> time to fire up eclipse and figure out a logic combination that does what I need
#1311 [12:53] <mib_89wyyw> ......
#1312 [12:53] <xales> Kealper, dopeghoti, be helpful
#1313 [12:53] <mib_89wyyw> but i told you BOTH me.
#1314 [12:54] <xales> just wait a minute
#1315 [12:54] <xales> and someone else will come help
#1316 [12:54] <Kealper> xales: i was helping in pm/fixing my spawn
#1317 [12:54] <Kealper> but rawr?
#1318 [12:54] <_psyCtrl> downloaded minecraft-server.zip, I guess it's the beta
#1319 [12:54] <mib_89wyyw> there is an old one
#1320 [12:54] <mib_89wyyw> and new one
#1321 [12:54] <mib_89wyyw> idk what's the right one
#1322 [12:54] <Kealper> _psyCtrl: that is the classic server, is that the one you wanted?
#1323 [12:54] <mib_89wyyw> Still Keahelper
#1324 [12:55] <mib_89wyyw> can you keahelp me?
#1325 [12:55] <_psyCtrl> I don't mind, I just want a server to work I guess
#1326 [12:55] <Kealper> if you stop talking like that, yes
#1327 [12:55] <lukegb> !myip
#1328 [12:55] <Kealper> _psyCtrl: well, classic is the free version, beta is paid-for
#1329 [12:55] <_psyCtrl> I bought it an hour ago
#1330 [12:56] <mib_89wyyw> What you mean?
#1331 [12:56] <_psyCtrl> so beta
#1332 [12:56] <Kealper> and mib_89wyyw you will have to tell me what the issue is :/
#1333 [12:56] <Kealper> !server
#1334 [12:56] <mib_89wyyw> i told Xales,i throught you listened
#1335 [12:56] <Kealper> _psyCtrl: get the one from there for your correct OS
#1336 [12:56] <mib_89wyyw> here kealper
#1337 [12:56] <Kealper> i was not watching this channel......let me get to a safe spot ingame and i'll scroll up :/
#1338 [12:56] <mib_89wyyw> http://pastebin.com/Yq0THGZ7
#1339 [12:56] <mib_89wyyw> and http://pastebin.com/q1A5dvwG
#1340 [12:57] <mib_89wyyw> when it should go to mojang industries screen
#1341 [12:57] <mib_89wyyw> it crashes
#1342 [12:57] <mib_89wyyw> Tried to delete app data
#1343 [12:57] <mib_89wyyw> and all drivers are just fine
#1344 [12:57] <mib_89wyyw> i re istalled my os
#1345 [12:57] <_psyCtrl> nothing happening when executing the exe (win7 x64)
#1346 [12:57] <Kealper> mib_89wyyw: reinstall your sound card drivers
#1347 [12:58] <mib_89wyyw> again?
#1348 [12:58] <mib_89wyyw> i did yestersay!
#1349 [12:58] <Kealper> you already did?
#1350 [12:58] <Kealper> hmm..
#1351 [12:58] <mib_89wyyw> yesterday
#1352 [12:58] <mib_89wyyw> oh and
#1353 [12:58] <mib_89wyyw> when i run classic
#1354 [12:58] <mib_89wyyw> --
#1355 [12:58] <mib_89wyyw> i host image in a place wait
#1356 [12:58] <Kealper> _psyCtrl: where did you run it from?
#1357 [12:59] <Chasesan> I guess I will try xor
#1358 [12:59] <_psyCtrl> dl directory
#1359 [12:59] <_psyCtrl> from my hdd
#1360 [12:59] <Chasesan> seems like it should work
#1361 [12:59] <Kealper> _psyCtrl: move it in to it's own directory, easiest place is just to put it in it's own folder on your desktop
#1362 [12:59] <_psyCtrl> kk
#1363 [13:00] <_psyCtrl> still nothing.. :l
#1364 [13:01] <Kealper> _psyCtrl: what os are you on?
#1365 [13:01] <mib_89wyyw> uploadin image
#1366 [13:01] <_psyCtrl> win7 x64
#1367 [13:01] <mib_89wyyw> wait a sec
#1368 [13:01] <mib_89wyyw> do minecraft
#1369 [13:01] <mib_89wyyw> use shockwave/flash player?
#1370 [13:02] <Kealper> _psyCtrl: try running it as administrator (right click > run as administrator)
#1371 [13:02] <mbentley> no
#1372 [13:02] <mib_89wyyw> oh,kay
#1373 [13:02] <Kealper> mib_89wyyw: it uses OpenGL
#1374 [13:02] <Kealper> and Java.....you did make sure you are running the latest Java, right?
#1375 [13:02] <_psyCtrl> already tried, nothing
#1376 [13:03] <mib_89wyyw> updated both
#1377 [13:03] <Kealper> _psyCtrl: open a cmd window and type java -version
#1378 [13:04] <Kealper> mib_89wyyw: i'm not sure why it's crashing then...it's related to audio, i know that much
#1379 [13:04] <mib_89wyyw> nope it is not
#1380 [13:04] <mib_89wyyw> look
#1381 [13:04] <mib_89wyyw> http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2501/nuovoimmaginebitmapmk.png
#1382 [13:04] <mib_89wyyw> this is what happens in classic
#1383 [13:05] <_psyCtrl> it gives me an error.. but I updated java runtime environmental
#1384 [13:05] <Kealper> that crash report you sent me was caused from OpenAL32.dll, which is OpenGL's audio controller
#1385 [13:05] <mib_89wyyw> updated open AL..sigh
#1386 [13:05] <Kealper> oh that's weird
#1387 [13:05] <peachy> OpenGL and OpenAL are relatively unrelated
#1388 [13:05] <mib_89wyyw> GL's are included whit drivers
#1389 [13:05] <peachy> the screen there, though, is just untextured
#1390 [13:05] <mib_89wyyw> im gettin mad
#1391 [13:05] <mib_89wyyw> oh and
#1392 [13:05] <mib_89wyyw> cant move or
#1393 [13:05] <Kealper> uhh...
#1394 [13:05] <mib_89wyyw> well
#1395 [13:05] <mib_89wyyw> lags.
#1396 [13:05] <dopeghoti> don't get mad, get new drivers.
#1397 [13:06] <mib_89wyyw> I updated three days ago
#1398 [13:06] <peachy> did it work before that?
#1399 [13:06] <mib_89wyyw> i re istalled my os
#1400 [13:06] <mib_89wyyw> and then
#1401 [13:06] <Kealper> well DopeGhoti...your turn...i don't know what it could be
#1402 [13:06] <mib_89wyyw> boph
#1403 [13:06] <mib_89wyyw> nothing works
#1404 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> wha? I just got here
#1405 [13:07] <mib_89wyyw> Well you need help i guess
#1406 [13:07] <mib_89wyyw> still i must change my nickname
#1407 [13:07] <peachy> are you using a texture pack?
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#1409 [13:07] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: primer: mib_89wyyw can't run minecraft, crashes from OpenAL32.dll, he updated all his drivers/java
#1410 [13:07] <peachy> OpenGL can be picky about textures, on occasion (depends on how they load)
#1411 [13:08] <mib_89wyyw> you forgot what happens in classic
#1412 [13:08] <mib_89wyyw> http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2501/nuovoimmaginebitmapmk.png
#1413 [13:08] <mib_89wyyw> this.
#1414 [13:08] <mib_89wyyw> and lags too
#1415 [13:08] <_psyCtrl> so what's the standard directory for java? I got it @ c:/programme (x86)/java/bin/java.exe
#1416 [13:08] <mib_89wyyw> ONLY
#1417 [13:08] <mib_89wyyw> thing i can tell u
#1418 [13:08] <mib_89wyyw> is that
#1419 [13:08] <Kealper> _psyCtrl: on a 64 bit windows, yes
#1420 [13:08] <_psyCtrl> kk
#1421 [13:08] <mib_89wyyw> in provisory mode in the other hard disk i runned minecraft accidentally
#1422 [13:08] <mib_89wyyw> but never started
#1423 [13:09] <mbentley> tried 64 bit java?
#1424 [13:09] <_psyCtrl> not really mbentley
#1425 [13:10] <mib_89wyyw> eh..expected that.-..
#1426 [13:10] <_psyCtrl> dl'ing
#1427 [13:10] <mib_89wyyw> still how my change my name?
#1428 [13:11] <mbentley> in minecraft? you can't
#1429 [13:11] <mbentley> in here? /nick <newname>
#1430 [13:11] <Stronglime> ahh
#1431 [13:11] <Stronglime> i feel much better
#1432 [13:11] <Stronglime> much much better
#1433 [13:11] <DopeGhoti> indeed, if you're on a 64-bit OS, uninstall the 32-bit Java and install the native 64-bit version
#1434 [13:11] <DopeGhoti> that may help
#1435 [13:12] <Stronglime> --psy or me?
#1436 [13:12] <Stronglime> psy i guess.
#1437 [13:12] <DopeGhoti> sorry, I thought that was you- are you running a 64-bit OS, Stronglime?
#1438 [13:12] <Stronglime> nope
#1439 [13:12] <Stronglime> i gave some specs before
#1440 [13:13] <Stronglime> heres what shows in error log in minecraft
#1441 [13:13] <Stronglime> http://pastebin.com/Yq0THGZ7
#1442 [13:13] <Stronglime> and heres my specs
#1443 [13:13] <Stronglime> http://pastebin.com/q1A5dvwG
#1444 [13:13] <DopeGhoti> ah
#1445 [13:13] <_psyCtrl> kk, I'll try that
#1446 [13:13] <DopeGhoti> you have an outdated version of Java. Install the latest version and see if that helps?
#1447 [13:14] <Stronglime> I did.
#1448 [13:14] <Stronglime> Yesteday
#1449 [13:14] <DopeGhoti> "# JRE version: 6.0_15-b03" is out-of-date.
#1450 [13:14] <Stronglime> ver--something like 24 or 14
#1451 [13:14] <Stronglime> forgot
#1452 [13:14] <Stronglime> Wtf
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#1454 [13:14] <Stronglime> but my control panel says up to date
#1455 [13:15] <Stronglime> and java says the same
#1456 [13:15] <Stronglime> i reistalled java at last 5 times
#1457 [13:15] <DopeGhoti> Check your add/remove programs (or whatever it's called this week) list- you may have several concurrent installs
#1458 [13:15] <Chasesan> yep a xor does it
#1459 [13:15] <Chasesan> :)
#1460 [13:15] <DopeGhoti> If this is the case, uninstall _all_ copies of Java, and install the latest.
#1461 [13:15] <Stronglime> i did
#1462 [13:15] <Stronglime> :\
#1463 [13:15] <Chasesan> I figured as much, it was taken
#1464 [13:15] <Stronglime> and i even tried to run something whitout it
#1465 [13:16] <Stronglime> it says i dont have
#1466 [13:16] <Stronglime> so..
#1467 [13:16] <Stronglime> im gettin mad
#1468 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> Well, then something has gone Terribly Wrong.
#1469 [13:16] <Stronglime> i usually fix all stuff alone
#1470 [13:16] <_psyCtrl> deinstalled 32-bit java, when I run the server.bat now it tells me "path not found"...
#1471 [13:16] <exp0> welcome to betas
#1472 [13:16] <Stronglime> oh
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#1474 [13:16] <Stronglime> i have update 23
#1475 [13:16] <Laur3ns> hi
#1476 [13:16] <Stronglime> it is okay?^
#1477 [13:16] <_psyCtrl> hi
#1478 [13:16] <Laur3ns> kealper
#1479 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> _psyCtrl: look at the server.bat file, and remove the " (x86)" part of the paths specified therein
#1480 [13:17] <Laur3ns> it wont work after the instal of the intel driver
#1481 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> Stronglime: IIRC update 23 is current.
#1482 [13:17] <Stronglime> So..?
#1483 [13:17] <exp0> you dont have the latest
#1484 [13:17] <Kealper> Laur3ns: O.o that is quite strange then....i'm not sure :/
#1485 [13:17] <exp0> go to the website and download the latest version.
#1486 [13:18] <Laur3ns> ...
#1487 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> Would you care to try something outlandish? It may be some program running on your user profile that's interfering with Minecraft. Create a new user account, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there.
#1488 [13:18] <Stronglime> Hmmmmmmmm
#1489 [13:18] <Stronglime> i try
#1490 [13:18] <Stronglime> Must disconnect for now.
#1491 [13:18] <Stronglime> a sec
#1492 [13:18] <Chasesan> I should build the circuit room walls from obsidian, incase of creepers and its near water
#1493 [13:19] <Stronglime> still minecraft is one of my fav games
#1494 [13:19] <_psyCtrl> ok, re-installed, corrected paths.. still a java socket error
#1495 [13:21] <_psyCtrl> frustrating..
#1496 [13:21] <mbentley> what error are you getting _psyCtrl
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#1498 [13:21] <_psyCtrl> uploading pic
#1499 [13:21] <_psyCtrl> sec
#1500 [13:21] <mbentley> k
#1501 [13:22] <_psyCtrl> http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4327/unbenanntdr.png
#1502 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> That's the first line of output? "Failed to start the server"? Usually there's more cruft preceding that.
#1503 [13:25] <ArmEagle> Are there any known issues? I can't connect to two different servers "Connection timed out: connect" Can login to minecraft.net just fine. And I was logged in to one of the two servers just a little while ago
#1504 [13:25] <_psyCtrl> that's all I get
#1505 [13:26] <_psyCtrl> txt's were created before if you mean that
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#1507 [13:27] <Stronglime> Sorry man
#1508 [13:27] <Stronglime> dosent work
#1509 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> Drat.
#1510 [13:27] <Stronglime> Same prob.
#1511 [13:28] <Stronglime> any ideas?
#1512 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> Did you try the alternate launcher? Have you already reinstalled the binaries?
#1513 [13:28] <_psyCtrl> why the f*** I can't run the beta server.exe?
#1514 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> _psyCtrl: I'm really not sure; that stack trace isn't very helpful to me.
#1515 [13:30] <Stronglime> Alternate launcher there is and binaries what are?
#1516 [13:30] <Mjiig> DopeGhoti: does the server need elevated permissions to run?
#1517 [13:30] <Stronglime> binaries are app data?
#1518 [13:30] <Stronglime> i re istalled minecraft from scratch
#1519 [13:30] <Mjiig> since that would explain the "permissions denied" or something message
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#1521 [13:31] <Stronglime> ?
#1522 [13:32] <mbentley> sounds like you need to run as administrator
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#1524 [13:33] <Stronglime> So,do you have any ideas dopeghoti?
#1525 [13:34] <_psyCtrl> do I have to free any ports for minecraft beta server?
#1526 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> Mjiig: No, it does not.
#1527 [13:36] <_psyCtrl> kk
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#1529 [13:36] <_psyCtrl> oh that wasn't for me ^^
#1530 [13:36] <Mjiig> DopeGhoti: fair enough, i wasn't sure so i asked
#1531 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> _psyCtrl: the server needs port 25565 open for listening
#1532 [13:36] <Stronglime> too bad
#1533 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> that's pretty much all
#1534 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> Stronglime: thinking
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#1536 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> (also, at work so deal with my slow response times (: )
#1537 [13:36] <Stronglime> I usually fix the things alone,as i said,but this time it just..argfh
#1538 [13:37] <Stronglime> argh
#1539 [13:37] <DopeGhoti> Stronglime: Yes, by binaries, I meant %AppData%\.minecraft\bin
#1540 [13:37] <_psyCtrl> google didn't helped me either.. :( stronglime
#1541 [13:37] <Stronglime> Binaries i deleted
#1542 [13:38] <Stronglime> PSY what's ur prob anyway?
#1543 [13:38] <Stronglime> cant host a server?
#1544 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> Huh. The 'alternate version' link on the site now points to the same file.
#1545 [13:39] <mbentley> so _psyCtrl, running as an adminsitrator doesn't solve your problem?
#1546 [13:39] <Stronglime> no man
#1547 [13:39] <Stronglime> classic dosent work either
#1548 [13:39] <Stronglime> it is a java prob
#1549 [13:39] <Stronglime> i posted my prob on forums
#1550 [13:39] <Stronglime> but those guys just deleted my post
#1551 [13:39] <Stronglime> IDK why
#1552 [13:40] <_psyCtrl> yea
#1553 [13:40] <_psyCtrl> java socket error
#1554 [13:40] <_psyCtrl> http://go.mibbit.com/thumb.php?x=32&y=32&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg233.imageshack.us%2Fimg233%2F4327%2Funbenanntdr.png
#1555 [13:40] <_psyCtrl> ummm... http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4327/unbenanntdr.png
#1556 [13:40] <_psyCtrl> no mbentlry
#1557 [13:40] <_psyCtrl> mbentley
#1558 [13:41] <fauxhawk> ^-- i'm getting that same error
#1559 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> Stronglime: "those guys"?
#1560 [13:41] <fauxhawk> on all servers
#1561 [13:41] <Stronglime> but but but
#1562 [13:41] <Stronglime> this isint old ver of server?
#1563 [13:41] <Stronglime> there was a new one
#1564 [13:41] <fauxhawk> just downloaed the .jar yesterday
#1565 [13:42] <_psyCtrl> classic server.bat will at least run and give me an error, beta server.exe just does nothing when I open it...
#1566 [13:43] <fauxhawk> it pretty clearly says "client error"
#1567 [13:43] <fauxhawk> i'm not sure the server is the issue. it hangs while trying to authenticate
#1568 [13:43] <Stronglime> -----
#1569 [13:43] <Stronglime> welll
#1570 [13:43] <Stronglime> im gonna cry right now
#1571 [13:43] <_psyCtrl> I'll join you
#1572 [13:43] <_psyCtrl> T_T
#1573 [13:44] <_psyCtrl> I hope I'll be able to set up a server someday
#1574 [13:44] <_psyCtrl> when mc is final
#1575 [13:45] <Stronglime> T_T
#1576 [13:45] <Stronglime> epic T_T
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#1579 [13:45] <Stronglime> http://neshtoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/emoticon4.jpg
#1580 [13:45] <Stronglime> Arr
#1581 [13:45] <_psyCtrl> well thanks for your help, I'll just go to bed and cry in my pillow untl I sleep..
#1582 [13:46] <_psyCtrl> watch out for creepers ;D
#1583 [13:46] <Stronglime> OHSHI
#1584 [13:46] <Stronglime> creepers!
#1585 [13:47] <_psyCtrl> bye
#1586 [13:47] <Stronglime> Bye man
#1587 [13:47] <Stronglime> still no clue on my problem man?
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#1591 [13:53] <mbentley> Stronglime: sorry, just looking at your problem... you've downloaded and installed these drivers >> http://www.nvidia.it/object/winxp-266.58-whql-driver-it.html
#1592 [13:54] <Taz605> yo
#1593 [13:56] <mbentley> howdy
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#1595 [13:58] <Cbog> It says I need to log on online before I can log on offiline-- I've registered my name and pass and I'm just trying to connect on the first prompt you get when you open minecraft.exe
#1596 [13:58] <Cbog> soooo what do I do
#1597 [13:58] <mbentley> Cbog: did you purchase beta?
#1598 [13:58] <Taz605> log on on the minecraft site me thinks
#1599 [13:59] <Cbog> oh, do you need to purchase it? I thought there was some free version
#1600 [13:59] <xolotl> Cbog: not for beta, no
#1601 [13:59] <mbentley> there is. classic is free
#1602 [13:59] <Taz605> beta you gotta pay
#1603 [13:59] <xolotl> Cbog: The ... what mbentley said.
#1604 [13:59] <mbentley> beta is not free
#1605 [13:59] <mbentley> lol xolotl
#1606 [13:59] <mbentley> classic is in browser only
#1607 [13:59] <Cbog> Ah, found it
#1608 [13:59] <mbentley> well, the classic client, that is
#1609 [13:59] <Cbog> What's the difference between classic and pay to play?
#1610 [14:00] <mbentley> classic is no longer updated
#1611 [14:00] <mbentley> Cbog: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Gameplay
#1612 [14:00] <xolotl> Cbog: The new stuff (Beta) is a very different game than Classic
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#1614 [14:03] <Stronglime> beta rules but
#1615 [14:03] <Stronglime> WHAT NOW !?
#1616 [14:03] <Cbog> hmm. Does classic not let you die when you land on lava or something
#1617 [14:03] <xolotl> Cbog: I don't think there's lava in Classic
#1618 [14:03] <mbentley> 'Most of the placeable blocks will be provided and players will have an infinite amount of them. Players cannot die here and there are no mobs around. The only objective of the game is to build. It is currently only playable in Classic version of Minecraft. '
#1619 [14:03] <xolotl> Cbog: Classic is *just* building, that's it.
#1620 [14:04] <xales> Stronglime: You have the OpenAL crash, right?
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#1622 [14:04] <mbentley> Stronglime: did you see my question about video drivers?
#1623 [14:05] <mbentley> 13:53 <+mbentley> Stronglime: sorry, just looking at your problem... you've downloaded and installed these drivers >> http://www.nvidia.it/object/winxp-266.58-whql-driver-it.html
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#1625 [14:05] <fauxhawk> is there a minecraft server help channel?
#1626 [14:05] <xales> Here
#1627 [14:05] <mbentley> fauxhawk: no, that is handled in here
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#1629 [14:06] <fauxhawk> is there a known issue with vanilla smp?
#1630 [14:06] <xales> Define 'known issue'
#1631 [14:06] <fauxhawk> i can't log into any server, even on localhost
#1632 [14:06] <xales> Do you get an error?
#1633 [14:06] <fauxhawk> ie, someone is working on it
#1634 [14:07] <fauxhawk> yes it was a "client error" now says "Took too long to log in"
#1635 [14:07] <Stronglime> back!
#1636 [14:07] <Stronglime> so
#1637 [14:07] <Taz605> try again
#1638 [14:07] <Stronglime> drivers and open al are okay
#1639 [14:07] <xales> What username are you using, fauxhawk
#1640 [14:07] <Stronglime> java
#1641 [14:07] <Stronglime> dosent work
#1642 [14:07] <Stronglime> andim ARU)$£%/$% you know?
#1643 [14:07] <mbentley> Stronglime: error?
#1644 [14:07] <Stronglime> i showed you if i remember
#1645 [14:07] <xales> mbentley: The error occurs in openal32.dll
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#1647 [14:08] <xales> as I said, it is a sound problem, Stronglime
#1648 [14:08] <Stronglime> but why does
#1649 [14:08] <Stronglime> the minecraft classic
#1650 [14:08] <Stronglime> well
#1651 [14:08] <Stronglime> does that.
#1652 [14:08] <Stronglime> and all my java is havin probs
#1653 [14:08] <mbentley> ok, then when you say drivers are 'okay', did you download and install the drivers i linked to from nvidia.com?
#1654 [14:08] * xales pokes fauxhawk
#1654 [14:08] <mbentley> fauxhawk: i get the same when trying to login to my server
#1655 [14:08] <fauxhawk> http://pastebin.com/qzt2RM8T
#1656 [14:09] <Stronglime> Yea.
#1657 [14:09] <fauxhawk> i'm fauxawk
#1658 [14:09] <Stronglime> i say are okay because
#1659 [14:09] <xales> oh, minecraft.net might be down again
#1660 [14:09] <fauxhawk> it just started in the last hour
#1661 [14:09] <Stronglime> ah the same
#1662 [14:09] <Thirrael> same here
#1663 [14:09] <fauxhawk> so if there was an update recently, then that may be the cause
#1664 [14:09] <mbentley> minecraft.net seems to be up but logins don't seem to be processing
#1665 [14:09] <Taz605> xales it's not
#1666 [14:09] <mbentley> no updates
#1667 [14:10] <Taz605> and i logged in fine
#1668 [14:10] <Stronglime> Well guys
#1669 [14:10] <Stronglime> i think im fucked
#1670 [14:10] <xales> Stronglime: I'd suggest getting a more modern computer...that would certainly resolve the issue.
#1671 [14:10] <mbentley> yeah, i can login fine to minecraft.net, the initial client login
#1672 [14:10] <Taz605> what happened?
#1673 [14:10] <Stronglime> Xales
#1674 [14:10] <mbentley> but when connecting to my server, it doesn't work
#1675 [14:10] <Stronglime> it worked perfectly
#1676 [14:11] <Stronglime> before re istalling os
#1677 [14:11] <Stronglime> my pc is good
#1678 [14:11] <fauxhawk> mbentley: i just got into my sever, looks to be a auth server issue?
#1679 [14:11] <Stronglime> i gave you specs
#1680 [14:11] <mbentley> most likely
#1681 [14:11] <Stronglime> can run HL2 and stuff like that quite fine
#1682 [14:11] <xales> Stronglime: Then it is probably a driver issue
#1683 [14:11] <mbentley> ^+1
#1684 [14:11] <Taz605> Stronglime redownload java
#1685 [14:12] <Stronglime> done....
#1686 [14:12] <Stronglime> i must try one thing
#1687 [14:12] <Stronglime> oh no
#1688 [14:12] <Stronglime> i already tried
#1689 [14:12] <Stronglime> so
#1690 [14:12] <Stronglime> dont have any clue right now
#1691 [14:12] <Stronglime> and minecraft is one of my fav games
#1692 [14:13] <Taz605> restart your pc?
#1693 [14:13] <Thirrael> does not work
#1694 [14:13] <Stronglime> ....................................................................................
#1695 [14:13] <fauxhawk> format
#1696 [14:13] <fauxhawk> reboot 3 times
#1697 [14:13] <Thirrael> must be clientside
#1698 [14:13] <Stronglime> i just
#1699 [14:13] <Stronglime> i just FORMATTED and istalled new os
#1700 [14:13] <Stronglime> SO
#1701 [14:13] <Stronglime> that's.
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#1703 [14:14] <Taz605> i got on the server i use so try agian
#1704 [14:14] <xales> Stronglime: Try installing the sound card driver provided by the computer manufacturer
#1705 [14:14] <pontusedberg> im still confused why i got banned at #minecraft :/
#1706 [14:14] <mbentley> are you sure that all of the drivers are actually installed?
#1707 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> pontusedberg - Banned?
#1708 [14:14] <pontusedberg> yupp
#1709 [14:14] <mbentley> chipset drivers, etc
#1710 [14:14] <pontusedberg> got no reason ether
#1711 [14:14] <Stronglime> Hhhmm
#1712 [14:14] <Stronglime> i try sound driver
#1713 [14:14] <Stronglime> because is the only one that my bro provided me
#1714 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> ..isn't that what we advised two hours ago?
#1715 [14:14] <mbentley> might look in device manager
#1716 [14:14] <Stronglime> (he's a programmer anyway)
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#1718 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> [12:37.17pm] AndrewPH sets mode: +b *!*@c83-253-236-6.bredband.comhem.se
#1719 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> [12:37.23pm] * pontusedberg was kicked by AndrewPH (bye)
#1720 [14:16] <mbentley> basically i would download drivers from the manufacturer's websites for everything
#1721 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> That's who you need to talk to.
#1722 [14:16] <Stronglime> no no
#1723 [14:16] <Stronglime> he did donwload it
#1724 [14:16] <Stronglime> not created it.
#1725 [14:16] <Stronglime> dont worry
#1726 [14:16] <mbentley> well yeah
#1727 [14:17] <pontusedberg> GreyVulpine i talked to andrew, he called me a tard and ignored me :\
#1728 [14:17] <mbentley> but download drivers for everything... chipset, video, audio
#1729 [14:18] <Stronglime> Only thing i did not re istall
#1730 [14:18] <Stronglime> is audio
#1731 [14:18] <Stronglime> so i try that
#1732 [14:18] <Stronglime> or--
#1733 [14:18] <Stronglime> even better
#1734 [14:18] <Stronglime> i disable audio
#1735 [14:18] <xales> Did I not tell you repeatedly
#1736 [14:18] <xales> that the issue is with sound?
#1737 [14:19] <Stronglime> It is not sound cause of classic having the prob i showed you
#1738 [14:19] <xales> Sound is disabled by default in Classic
#1739 [14:19] <mbentley> i can only suggest solutions...
#1740 [14:20] <Stronglime> Sigh
#1741 [14:20] <Stronglime> i have no clue
#1742 [14:20] <xales> 14:18:23 < Stronglime> Only thing i did not re istall
#1743 [14:20] <xales> 14:18:25 < Stronglime> is audio
#1744 [14:20] <xales> 14:18:28 < Stronglime> so i try that
#1745 [14:20] <Stronglime> i try re istalling audio
#1746 [14:20] <xales> ^ do that
#1747 [14:20] <Stronglime> BRB
#1748 [14:20] <xales> ._.
#1749 [14:20] <Taz605> lol
#1750 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> *headdesk*
#1751 [14:21] <Stronglime> Still thanks for wast---aehm using your time whit me!
#1752 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> Two hours ago, we pointed out that was OpenAL and asked you to update your sound drivers.
#1753 [14:21] <Stronglime> i try now.
#1754 [14:21] <Stronglime> but im sure will not work
#1755 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> "Our suggestions will be followed, in the order they're received"?
#1756 [14:21] <mbentley> i don't understand why people come in for help but do not follow any suggestions
#1757 [14:22] <Stronglime> im doing it :P
#1758 [14:22] <Stronglime> dont be so rude
#1759 [14:22] <Stronglime> rebooting
#1760 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> Not so much rude, as baffled and frustrated.
#1761 [14:23] <pontusedberg> Xales.. could you talk to andrewph for me, i think he is mad about me for some reason i dont understand
#1762 [14:23] <AndrewPH> lol
#1763 [14:23] <Taz605> there talk :\
#1764 [14:24] <pontusedberg> alright then, andrewPH why was i banned on #minecraft?
#1765 [14:24] <AndrewPH> Because.
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#1767 [14:24] <AndrewPH> That's why.
#1768 [14:24] <pontusedberg> dint i follow the rules, did i spam, did i insult or what?
#1769 [14:24] <ks> Hmmm... What is the fastest block to break by hand?
#1770 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> AndrewPH - ?
#1771 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> ks: sand or gravel
#1772 [14:25] <Zemedelphos> KS: leaves
#1773 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> oh.. air!
#1774 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> Air is fast.
#1775 [14:25] <ks> darn you conflicting opinions xD
#1776 [14:25] <Zemedelphos> Lol
#1777 [14:25] <Zemedelphos> Can't break air.
#1778 [14:25] <pontusedberg> i think cloth
#1779 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> You break air _constantly_
#1780 [14:25] <Zemedelphos> Well, leaves break fairly instantly, ya?
#1781 [14:25] <relsqui> sheep
#1782 [14:25] * Zemedelphos breaks wind
#1782 [14:25] <ks> yeah, problem with leaves is I cant place em permanently :p
#1783 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> hmm, glass might break rather quick too; never tried it bare-handed. (Feature request: breaking glass bare-handed wounds the player)
#1784 [14:26] <ks> xD
#1785 [14:26] <Taz605> where does minecraft save ss's?
#1786 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> Taz605: %AppData%\.minecraft\screenshots
#1787 [14:26] <pontusedberg> GreyVulpine what are the names of the other ops in #minecraft ?
#1788 [14:26] <relsqui> DopeGhoti: I was just thinking that
#1789 [14:26] <Taz605> ok thanks
#1790 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> Taz605: cheers
#1791 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> pontusedberg - The problem you have is with AndrewPH. He's the one that set the ban, and if he doesn't want to talk to you, I can't force him to.
#1792 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> I don't know the situation.
#1793 [14:28] <Taz605> DopeGhoti: cheers?? why?
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#1795 [14:28] <nico> hi
#1796 [14:28] <Taz605> yo
#1797 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1798 [14:28] <pontusedberg> well i would like to talk to the other ops on that channel
#1799 [14:28] <pontusedberg> and hear their opinion
#1800 [14:28] <AndrewPH> pontusedberg, I'm absolutely positive they don't want to talk to you.
#1801 [14:28] <Zemedelphos> Just tested.
#1802 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> Taz605: as in, "you're welcome; glad to have helped"?
#1803 [14:28] <Zemedelphos> Leaves break the fastes barehanded.
#1804 [14:28] <Taz605> ohh
#1805 [14:28] <Zemedelphos> fastest*
#1806 [14:29] <pontusedberg> and why could that be AndrewPH?
#1807 [14:29] <AndrewPH> pontusedberg, Now I would consider not talking about it in here if I were you.
#1808 [14:29] <AndrewPH> pontusedberg, Or dire consequences may come about.
#1809 [14:29] <nico> Hi I'm trying to buy minecraft with my blue card from france and it doesn't work! does someone had similar problem?
#1810 [14:29] <pontusedberg> I just want the public to hear and see what you are saying :/
#1811 [14:29] <pontusedberg> its weird and nuts
#1812 [14:29] <pontusedberg> You just cant ban people without a reason
#1813 [14:29] <xales> nico: I'm not sure if you can use a blue card.
#1814 [14:29] <AndrewPH> ...Actually you can.
#1815 [14:30] <xales> pontusedberg: There was a reason. it may not be aparrant to you.
#1816 [14:30] <xales> This is not the place to discuss it. Please do not continue to discuss it here.
#1817 [14:30] <pontusedberg> But what is the reason xales, so i wont do it again!
#1818 [14:30] <pontusedberg> dammt!
#1819 [14:30] <Taz605> take it to pm's
#1820 [14:30] <xales> ^
#1821 [14:30] <xales> last warning
#1822 [14:30] <pontusedberg> he wont talk in pm's
#1823 [14:30] <nico> Xales: Apparently on the mine craft web site, master card are accepted
#1824 [14:30] <AndrewPH> Lying won't help you pontused
#1825 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> pontusedberg: This is IRC. IRC is not a democracy; it is a communal autocracy. Anyone with a magic @ has absolute rule, and may ban with any, or with no, reason. Deal with it.
#1826 [14:31] <xales> DopeGhoti: I like the /help kill in irssi
#1827 [14:31] <xales> "It works similarly to KICK, except that a reason must be given (even if it is meaningless or flat-out wrong).
#1828 [14:31] <Taz605> /help kill?
#1829 [14:31] <Taz605> ohh
#1830 [14:31] <Taz605> the best reson is fire
#1831 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> xales: I meddle not in the affairs of IRCOps.
#1832 [14:32] <AndrewPH> the best reason is derpherp
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#1834 [14:32] <Stronglime> nope.avi
#1835 [14:32] <Stronglime> didint work
#1836 [14:32] <Stronglime> :\
#1837 [14:32] <nico> xales: I think it's a problem from my bank
#1838 [14:32] <Taz605> i belive it's fier :
#1839 [14:32] <AndrewPH> darn.mp4
#1840 [14:32] <nico> :(
#1841 [14:32] <Taz605> fire*
#1842 [14:32] <mbentley> Stronglime: where did you get these drivers from?
#1843 [14:32] <Stronglime> uhm
#1844 [14:32] <Stronglime> idk
#1845 [14:32] <Taz605> nico: if it your bank we can't do any think about it
#1846 [14:33] <nico> yes
#1847 [14:33] <Stronglime> but i know are the right ones
#1848 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> you.. don't know where you _just_ got the drivers from. Interesting.
#1849 [14:33] <mbentley> Stronglime: they might be causing the problem
#1850 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> How about going to the OEM's site and downlading them?
#1851 [14:33] <nico> Thank anyway
#1852 [14:33] <mbentley> so it would be good to download drivers from the manufacturer
#1853 [14:33] <Stronglime> Nah
#1854 [14:33] <Stronglime> i know they are fine
#1855 [14:33] <xales> download them from the manufacturer
#1856 [14:33] <Taz605> how so?
#1857 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> yeah, well, I know they're not. Now what?
#1858 [14:33] <xales> there is nothing else we can help with.
#1859 [14:33] <Stronglime> i think i donwloaded them from official website
#1860 [14:33] <Stronglime> still
#1861 [14:33] <Stronglime> Well.
#1862 [14:33] <Stronglime> Thanks for the help
#1863 [14:34] <nico> manufaxturer?
#1864 [14:34] <mbentley> wow
#1865 [14:34] <Stronglime> but i think this will not be fixed!
#1866 [14:34] <Stronglime> Well right now i go
#1867 [14:34] <Stronglime> eatin
#1868 [14:34] <Stronglime> Later!
#1869 [14:34] <Stronglime> Just--think
#1870 [14:34] <mbentley> just--download different audio drivers
#1871 [14:34] <xales> You came to us for help.
#1872 [14:35] <xales> If you aren't willing to try what we say, stop complaining
#1873 [14:35] <Stronglime> they are fine,im sure
#1874 [14:35] <Stronglime> but
#1875 [14:35] <Stronglime> i'll try later
#1876 [14:35] <Stronglime> okay?
#1877 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> More importantly, stop using 'Enter' as a goddamn comma!
#1878 [14:35] <xales> They clearly are not fine
#1879 [14:39] <Chasesan> is there a way to make the minecraft window larger?
#1880 [14:39] <mbentley> yes
#1881 [14:39] <TicTac1337> press f11 in browser.
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#1883 [14:40] <Taz605> who you would any window bigger
#1884 [14:40] <Taz605> how*
#1885 [14:40] <Chasesan> non full screen
#1886 [14:40] <Chasesan> oh
#1887 [14:40] <Taz605> yea drag the coner
#1888 [14:41] <Chasesan> I thought it was locked to certain resolutions (like all other games)
#1889 [14:41] <Chasesan> so I didn't even try that
#1890 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> Chasesan: Only those your monitor is cabable of rendering a window within.
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#1893 [14:42] <popomat> so who wants to help with some server issues?
#1894 [14:42] <xales> what is the issue?
#1895 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> That depends on the issue(s).
#1896 [14:42] <popomat> my server was running fine, but now 4 hours later no one can connect
#1897 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> what happens when they try?
#1898 [14:42] <Taz605> restart the server
#1899 [14:42] <popomat> java.net.connectexception on client no errors on server
#1900 [14:43] <xales> popomat: Your IP probably changed.
#1901 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> popomat: do you see any connection messages at all serverside?
#1902 [14:43] <popomat> ive tried running diffrent worlds, restarts, i even reset my server
#1903 [14:43] <popomat> no serevr side errors
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#1905 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> popomat: do you see *any connection messages at all* serverside?
#1906 [14:43] <xales> popomat: Check that your local and external IPs are the same.
#1907 [14:44] <popomat> im using dns forwarding, but even using my exact ip wont work
#1908 [14:44] <popomat> only way i can connect is through my routes 192.168.1.* ip
#1909 [14:44] <popomat> routers*
#1910 [14:44] <popomat> no one else can either
#1911 [14:44] <xales> "dns forwarding"?
#1912 [14:44] <xales> do you mean DynDNS?
#1913 [14:44] <popomat> i use no-ip
#1914 [14:44] <xales> same thing more or less
#1915 [14:45] <xales> !check pe-69-207-105-206.rochester.res.rr.com
#1916 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> Ahem.
#1917 [14:45] <popomat> this sint the server
#1918 [14:45] <popomat> isnt*
#1919 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> popomat: do you see any connection messages at all serverside?
#1920 [14:46] <popomat> "Disconnecting IP took to long"
#1921 [14:46] <mbentley> like 2011-02-04 14:43:41 [INFO] Disconnecting mbentley [/206.246.148.32:51184]: Took too long to log in
#1922 [14:46] <mbentley> ?
#1923 [14:46] <popomat> yeah
#1924 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> that is the exact opposite of 12:44 < popomat> no serevr side errors
#1925 [14:46] <mbentley> that would be a server side message
#1926 [14:46] <Stronglime> too much ping i guess.back anyway
#1927 [14:46] <mbentley> i'm seeing the same things...
#1928 [14:47] <xales> Stronglime: You need to install the manufacturer's driver for your sound card. There is no futher help we can provide.
#1929 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> That'll happen when minecraft.net is squirrely, and it has been flow for me today.
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#1931 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> er, slow.
#1932 [14:47] <Stronglime> yea im doing that
#1933 [14:47] <popomat> so its minecraft.net not me?
#1934 [14:47] <Stronglime> :)
#1935 [14:47] <xales> popomat: Correct
#1936 [14:47] <mbentley> that would be correct.
#1937 [14:47] <Stronglime> it's the server i guess/you
#1938 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> popomat: probably.
#1939 [14:47] <popomat> thanks for the help guys
#1940 [14:47] <mbentley> i was just finally able to login after trying like 5 times
#1941 [14:48] <xales> why do random Mibbits join channels and leave 10 seconds later
#1942 [14:48] <xales> seriously...
#1943 [14:48] <popomat> lol
#1944 [14:48] <xales> "i can't decide if i want 2 chat rite nao"
#1945 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> xales: "Oh, I have to type if I want to chat? f[bleep]k this."
#1946 [14:49] <xales> indeed
#1947 [14:49] <relsqui> "what does this button do? OMG THERE'S PEOPLE IN HERE"
#1948 [14:49] <Taz605> skype is so much easyer
#1949 [14:49] <xales> DopeGhoti: Have you seen http://darksigns.net/xales/rr.log
#1950 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> "I thought this was camroullete or something."
#1951 [14:49] <Taz605> chatroullete
#1952 [14:51] <mbentley> lol xales
#1953 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> xales: I have now. I think someone was drunk-dialing on Mibbit again.
#1954 [14:52] <mbentley> everyone knows that real ircops use mibbit
#1955 [14:52] <xales> totally
#1956 [14:52] <popomat> lol
#1957 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> "No, real IRCops use mIRC with NoNameScript."
#1958 [14:53] <Taz605> icechat xD
#1959 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> and spend all of their time developing "now playing" IRC hooks for WinAmp and Windows Media Player, and obnoxious away/back scripts that spam all channels with "/me is away: pooping"
#1960 [14:54] <Taz605> noob queation
#1961 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> Things I _loathe_ about mIRC, partial list: /ame and /asay
#1962 [14:54] <Stronglime> Arr i cant find it in manfucter site
#1963 [14:54] <Stronglime> odd
#1964 [14:54] <Taz605> what virson is minecraft?
#1965 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> 1.2_02 beta IIRC
#1966 [14:54] <mbentley> Taz605: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page
#1967 [14:54] <mbentley> under 'play it!'
#1968 [14:54] <Taz605> i.2ok thanks
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#1970 [14:57] <popomat> whew back up
#1971 [14:58] <Stronglime> cant find drivers.not at all
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#1973 [15:00] <mbentley> Stronglime: what is the make & model of your pc?
#1974 [15:01] <Stronglime> custom.
#1975 [15:01] <Stronglime> But maybe--
#1976 [15:01] <Stronglime> wait what?
#1977 [15:01] <mbentley> what motherboard?
#1978 [15:01] <popomat> ibm thinkpad. come at me bro
#1979 [15:02] <Stronglime> im looking for motherboad drivers CD right now
#1980 [15:02] <Stronglime> so i'll tell uwhen i find
#1981 [15:02] <Stronglime> maybe i found
#1982 [15:02] <Stronglime> nope.
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#1984 [15:05] <popomat> so what server mods do you guys use if you host servers?
#1985 [15:05] <Stronglime> got it!
#1986 [15:05] <mbentley> i run plain vanilla
#1987 [15:06] <Stronglime> good news are
#1988 [15:06] <Stronglime> that drivers i had was 2.0 older
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#1990 [15:06] <Stronglime> bad news are i dont know if it will work
#1991 [15:06] <mbentley> Stronglime: just install some different drivers. i wouldn't really care if they are older or newer
#1992 [15:07] <mbentley> just as long as they aren't the same
#1993 [15:07] <Stronglime> well,newer are better.
#1994 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> not always.
#1995 [15:07] <Stronglime> --you are right
#1996 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> I get that a lot.
#1997 [15:07] <Stronglime> expecially whit tricky ati.
#1998 [15:11] <rob4784> hi gyus, i just bought the game and i'd like to multiplayer, but no lunck. i get this error from client. "Internal exeption java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 0" anyone knows what's wrong. thanks
#1999 [15:11] <exp0> is the client and server up to date?
#2000 [15:11] <Taz605> you got a server ip?
#2001 [15:11] <xales> Try connecting to smp.shadow-craft.net as the IP
#2002 [15:11] <rob4784> yah, it is
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#2004 [15:11] <rob4784> and port is nessesery ?
#2005 [15:11] <xales> nope
#2006 [15:11] <xales> just put 'smp.shadow-craft.net' in the box
#2007 [15:12] <rob4784> yah it works
#2008 [15:12] <rob4784> why is that ?
#2009 [15:12] <xales> The problem is with the server you were trying to connect to, then
#2010 [15:12] <xales> There is nothing you can do about that.
#2011 [15:12] <rob4784> hmm i tryed lots
#2012 [15:13] <Taz605> what with that server xales?
#2013 [15:13] <xales> Taz605: ?
#2014 [15:13] <rob4784> anyway thank you
#2015 [15:13] <exp0> this is still in beta, so it will have lots of odd issues
#2016 [15:13] <Taz605> the smp.shadow-craft.net
#2017 [15:13] <Taz605> don't you ned an ip for the server?
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#2019 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> That resolves to an IP
#2020 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> It's like going to google.com, and not having to remember google's IP
#2021 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> The miracles of DNS.
#2022 [15:14] <Taz605> ahhh right
#2023 [15:15] <Taz605> finally lets mr log on
#2024 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Then the servers you hit up, weren't updated
#2025 [15:16] <Taz605> yea most likey
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#2030 [15:19] <aetherian> sup
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#2034 [15:20] <Stronglime> Nope guys!
#2035 [15:20] <Stronglime> didint work
#2036 [15:20] <Stronglime> so--i guess you did all you could do?
#2037 [15:21] <Kealper> hmm?
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#2039 [15:22] <Stronglime> well just.
#2040 [15:22] <Stronglime> did not work
#2041 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> What didn't work?
#2042 [15:22] <Stronglime> any ideas?
#2043 [15:22] <Stronglime> Re-istalling audio drivers! still i think you just joined a sec ago?
#2044 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, sorry, I just got in.
#2045 [15:24] <relsqui> just got the title screen message "I miss ADOM!" did something happen to ADOM?
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#2047 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: It's not really being developed anymore?
#2048 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> (that I've heard of )
#2049 [15:33] <relsqui> ah. wouldn't know, I (obviously) don't follow it
#2050 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> I haven't in a while.
#2051 [15:34] <relsqui> but, y'know, if it's a roguelike I consider it a friend
#2052 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> I know what you mean.
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#2054 [15:34] <relsqui> :)
#2055 [15:34] <danny_> Anyone know how to fix the black screen issue?
#2056 [15:34] <danny_> I'm on a mac
#2057 [15:34] <relsqui> have you tried a straight reinstall?
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#2059 [15:35] <aetherian> heh
#2060 [15:35] <aetherian> mac
#2061 [15:35] <AG_Elias> danny_, currently, a "black screen issue" can be one of any number of things.
#2062 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> danny_: Have you tried reinstalling the binaries?
#2063 [15:35] <AG_Elias> I would recommend a reinstall, and to restart when it happens.
#2064 [15:35] <relsqui> heh, I score myself one point in the "try to remember what someone who's been here longer said to the last person with this issue" game
#2065 [15:35] <danny_> Just found something...
#2066 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> danny_: in /Users/YOUR_NAME/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft, delete the bin folder.
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#2069 [15:37] <danny_> fixed it
#2070 [15:37] <mbentley> yay easy fixes
#2071 [15:38] * relsqui swaps laundry while waiting for some time to pass in minecraft
#2071 [15:38] <relsqui> (I'm taking a half-night train ride to someplace that isn't monster-protected at all)
#2072 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> danny_: cheers :)
#2073 [15:41] <danny_> Is there a Mod help channel?
#2074 [15:42] <danny_> I have no sound and I think its' the fault of AudioMod
#2075 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> Depends on the mod; each has its own channel generally
#2076 [15:42] <aetherian> #risucraft ?
#2077 [15:42] * aetherian is not sure
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#2078 [15:50] <danny_> Thanks aetherian.
#2079 [15:50] <aetherian> jus' doing my job.
#2080 [15:50] <danny_> Turns out all I had to do was kill the Meta_INF inside the .jar
#2081 [15:50] <danny_> I had forgotten it's location.
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#2083 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> "its", for the record.
#2084 [15:52] <aetherian> I was going to say that ..>
#2085 [15:52] <aetherian> brb
#2086 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> You still can, if you like.
#2087 [15:55] <aetherian> hey danny
#2088 [15:55] <aetherian> it's its for the record
#2089 [15:56] <danny_> lol.... My apologies.
#2090 [15:56] <danny_> Now audiomod has killed my sound... I just can't win today
#2091 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> Kein Problem.
#2092 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> well, killing sound is one way to modify the audio. Not my cup of tea, though.
#2093 [15:57] <Zemedelphos> And with that, I lost the game. :(
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#2095 [15:57] <CryptokidFH> hello
#2096 [15:57] <aetherian> heh
#2097 [15:57] <aetherian> hello
#2098 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> Zemedelphos: http://xkcd.com/391/
#2099 [15:57] <aetherian> o_O
#2100 [15:57] <CryptokidFH> i cant seem to connect to any servers as of this afternoon
#2101 [15:57] <CryptokidFH> anyone else having this problem?
#2102 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> CryptokidFH: minecraft.net is a little squirrely, this will impact connecting to SMP servers. Just keep trying; you'll eventually get in.
#2103 [15:58] <CryptokidFH> okay, still having trouble from the server move then?
#2104 [15:58] <CryptokidFH> its just odd becuase i can't even connect to my own server using localhost
#2105 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> CryptokidFH: Yes, this is why they're going to be transitioning again to Rackspace.
#2106 [15:59] <CryptokidFH> ya i have been having tons of server log in errors lately
#2107 [15:59] <CryptokidFH> a lot of end of stream and bad login stuff
#2108 [16:00] <CryptokidFH> never used to get them
#2109 [16:00] <aetherian> I am quite surprised nobody has made a program for easy texture pack creation, like the skin editor thing.
#2110 [16:03] <CryptokidFH> I just give who ev i want to join my server my external ip right?
#2111 [16:04] <mbentley> CryptokidFH: yup
#2112 [16:04] <aetherian> mmhmm
#2113 [16:04] <CryptokidFH> k
#2114 [16:04] <CryptokidFH> well i can't join my own server atm so i doubt they can lol
#2115 [16:04] <Stronglime> Still no clue on my problem,still
#2116 [16:04] <Stronglime> minecraft is one of my fav games :|
#2117 [16:05] <CryptokidFH> whats your problem?
#2118 [16:05] <Stronglime> when minecraft should start
#2119 [16:05] <Stronglime> at majong industries screen
#2120 [16:05] <Stronglime> before it could open
#2121 [16:05] <Stronglime> crash
#2122 [16:05] <Stronglime> in classic just
#2123 [16:05] <Stronglime> sec
#2124 [16:06] <CryptokidFH> have you tried restoring you .jar?
#2125 [16:06] <CryptokidFH> that happened to me once
#2126 [16:06] <CryptokidFH> right when it would get to mojang, it would crash
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#2128 [16:06] <Stronglime> sorry crashed
#2129 [16:06] <Stronglime> so
#2130 [16:06] <Stronglime> was saying
#2131 [16:06] <Stronglime> i reistalled app data lol
#2132 [16:07] <Stronglime> reistalled all the possible drivers in the world
#2133 [16:07] <Stronglime> then reistalled exe
#2134 [16:07] <Stronglime> java
#2135 [16:07] <Stronglime> and even firefox.
#2136 [16:07] <CryptokidFH> having you tried restoreing your .jar?
#2137 [16:07] <Stronglime> I told you
#2138 [16:07] <Stronglime> i deleted app data folder
#2139 [16:07] <CryptokidFH> oh
#2140 [16:07] <Stronglime> i reistalled exe
#2141 [16:07] <Stronglime> so yea
#2142 [16:07] <Stronglime> XD
#2143 [16:07] <CryptokidFH> that fixed it for me
#2144 [16:07] <Stronglime> i asked 3 more users
#2145 [16:07] <CryptokidFH> hmmm
#2146 [16:08] <Stronglime> and they cant fix the prob
#2147 [16:08] <CryptokidFH> does it not run in the browser either then?
#2148 [16:08] <Stronglime> nope
#2149 [16:08] <Stronglime> any java 3d game
#2150 [16:08] <Stronglime> wont work
#2151 [16:08] <Stronglime> so one thing
#2152 [16:08] <Stronglime> http://img687.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img687/3907/nuovoimmaginebitmapxn.png&via=mupload
#2153 [16:08] <Stronglime> this
#2154 [16:08] <Stronglime> is classic
#2155 [16:08] <Stronglime> http://img687.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img687/3907/nuovoimmaginebitmapxn.png
#2156 [16:08] <Stronglime> arr--
#2157 [16:09] <Stronglime> wont work
#2158 [16:09] <Stronglime> the link
#2159 [16:09] <Stronglime> sec
#2160 [16:09] <CryptokidFH> lol
#2161 [16:09] <Kealper> wait.... Stronglime what was the issue you were having?
#2162 [16:09] <mbentley> http://pastebin.com/Yq0THGZ7
#2163 [16:09] <Stronglime> Told ya
#2164 [16:10] <mbentley> http://pastebin.com/q1A5dvwG
#2165 [16:10] <CryptokidFH> mc crashes when it gets to the mojang part
#2166 [16:10] <mbentley> those are Stronglime's pastbin posts
#2167 [16:10] <Stronglime> Still operating on it?
#2168 [16:10] <Kealper> oh.....that one
#2169 [16:10] <mbentley> just reposting them because 'it crashed' doesn't tell ya much
#2170 [16:10] <Stronglime> Wll that
#2171 [16:11] <Stronglime> anyway
#2172 [16:11] <Stronglime> http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2501/nuovoimmaginebitmapmk.png
#2173 [16:11] <Stronglime> this is what happens on Alpha
#2174 [16:11] <Kealper> well...
#2175 [16:11] <Stronglime> ehmnm
#2176 [16:11] <Stronglime> classic
#2177 [16:11] <Stronglime> ANY java 3d gmae
#2178 [16:11] <Stronglime> game wont work
#2179 [16:11] <LatHans> I'm having trouble logging into my own server... "Took too long to log in"
#2180 [16:11] <LatHans> is it my fault or are there any problems with the servers?
#2181 [16:11] <Stronglime> Also re istalled all possible thinks
#2182 [16:11] <Stronglime> im disperate.
#2183 [16:11] <Kealper> reinstall windows
#2184 [16:11] <xales> LatHans: minecraft.net is having some issues
#2185 [16:11] <Stronglime> man
#2186 [16:11] <Stronglime> that's the problem
#2187 [16:12] <Stronglime> i re istalled windows
#2188 [16:12] <LatHans> xales: will it work if I try a lot of times? :P
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#2190 [16:12] <Stronglime> and the prob started
#2191 [16:12] <LatHans> or do I need to wait?
#2192 [16:12] <xales> LatHans: try a lot may work
#2193 [16:12] <LatHans> or are there any working IP address I can put into my hosts file to get around the problem?
#2194 [16:12] <Kealper> Stronglime: then something was not installed correctly....where are you installing your video drivers and audio drivers from? windows update?
#2195 [16:12] <Stronglime> no lol
#2196 [16:12] <Stronglime> im not so stupid
#2197 [16:13] <Stronglime> audio drivers from cd provided from motherboard
#2198 [16:13] <LatHans> is it possible to disable the login check on the server, but still let the users log on with their usernames and have their inventory available etc?
#2199 [16:13] <Stronglime> and they worked whit other pc and before
#2200 [16:13] <Kealper> get the latest versions from the maker's website
#2201 [16:13] <Stronglime> and drivers from official site
#2202 [16:13] <Stronglime> nope.avi
#2203 [16:13] <mbentley> Stronglime: did you ever find out the make/model of your motherboard?
#2204 [16:13] <LatHans> yay, I got in
#2205 [16:13] <Stronglime> Just is not hardware problem or driver problem
#2206 [16:13] <Stronglime> cause it worked before
#2207 [16:13] <Stronglime> whit same drivers
#2208 [16:13] <Stronglime> i re istalled os
#2209 [16:14] <Stronglime> and now is *BEEEEEP* not workin
#2210 [16:14] <mbentley> less enter, more space bar
#2211 [16:14] <Stronglime> That.
#2212 [16:14] <CryptokidFH> I still cant log in to any servers :/
#2213 [16:14] <Stronglime> Oh yea i guess you are right man.
#2214 [16:14] <mbentley> did you ever find out the make/model of your motherboard?
#2215 [16:15] <Stronglime> i can check it
#2216 [16:15] <Stronglime> but it would be unusefull
#2217 [16:15] <mbentley> no, it would be more than useful
#2218 [16:15] <Stronglime> Why you say so?
#2219 [16:15] <mbentley> if you downloaded the latest drivers from the manufacturer's website, you would know the make & model of your motherboard
#2220 [16:15] <Stronglime> Yes but i forgot the name
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#2223 [16:16] <Stronglime> it was an nvidia gforce somethin
#2224 [16:16] <Stronglime> Sec
#2225 [16:16] <hellofthedevil> heyy people
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#2227 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#2228 [16:16] <Stronglime> Nvidia ANX68SEV
#2229 [16:16] <Stronglime> or they are drivers
#2230 [16:16] <Stronglime> idk
#2231 [16:16] <Kealper> your graphics drivers are from mid-2009, as are your audi odrivers
#2232 [16:16] <Stronglime> What?
#2233 [16:16] <Stronglime> Graphics are new.
#2234 [16:17] <Stronglime> sure of it
#2235 [16:17] <Stronglime> Audio,i updated after report
#2236 [16:17] <Stronglime> so something cool happened
#2237 [16:17] <Kealper> Driver Date/Size: 7/8/2009 09:07:00, 5918976 bytes
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#2239 [16:17] <Kealper> and audio drivers: Date and Size: 5/8/2009 11:22:28, 1358720 bytes
#2240 [16:18] <Stronglime> *Sigh*
#2241 [16:18] <Stronglime> the drivers
#2242 [16:18] <Stronglime> are not a problem
#2243 [16:18] <Stronglime> im sure at 100%
#2244 [16:18] <Stronglime> i even updated processor drivers
#2245 [16:18] <Stronglime> aehm re istalled
#2246 [16:18] <Stronglime> Video are up to date
#2247 [16:18] <Stronglime> audio are a bit old
#2248 [16:18] <Stronglime> but JAVA
#2249 [16:19] <Stronglime> is not working,sorry if i speak too much anyway,im like this.
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#2251 [16:19] <Kealper> and you totally uninstalled java and reinstalled it?
#2252 [16:19] <hellofthedevil> does anyone know what"could not create java virtual machine" means
#2253 [16:19] <Kealper> hellofthedevil: how much ram does your computer have?
#2254 [16:20] <hellofthedevil> 3gig
#2255 [16:20] <mbentley> not able to find 'ANX68SEV' on asrock's site
#2256 [16:20] <Stronglime> yes i did
#2257 [16:20] <Stronglime> well that was not motherboard
#2258 [16:20] <Stronglime> my fault
#2259 [16:20] <hellofthedevil> but i got my extra screen now though
#2260 [16:20] <Stronglime> was only audio drivers
#2261 [16:20] <mbentley> sounds like audio, yeah
#2262 [16:20] <Stronglime> So uhm
#2263 [16:20] <Kealper> hellofthedevil: try going to http://java.com and reinstalling java
#2264 [16:21] <Stronglime> i dl heverest sec
#2265 [16:21] <hellofthedevil> nah not doing that cause itll fuck up again
#2266 [16:22] <mbentley> <.<
#2267 [16:22] <mbentley> >.>
#2268 [16:22] <Kealper> well it already doesn't work, right?
#2269 [16:22] <Kealper> so....what harm could reinstalling it do?
#2270 [16:22] <Stronglime> ....java?
#2271 [16:22] <Kealper> that was at hellofthedevil
#2272 [16:23] <Stronglime> oh sorry
#2273 [16:23] <Stronglime> gettin confused a bit
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#2275 [16:23] <Kealper> although i still think that if you installed the latest proper drivers for your stuff, it would fix your problem..but that's just me
#2276 [16:24] <Stronglime> Im sorry for you Kea but im sure my drivers are up to date/working :P
#2277 [16:24] <hellofthedevil> it works sometimes
#2278 [16:24] <hellofthedevil> if i reboot it works
#2279 [16:24] <Stronglime> Argh again
#2280 [16:24] <Stronglime> damnit
#2281 [16:24] <Kealper> hellofthedevil: open task manager, how much ram are you using?
#2282 [16:24] <hellofthedevil> then crashes 30 mins l8r
#2283 [16:24] <Stronglime> you where talking to hell
#2284 [16:25] <mbentley> actually, i think that was to you...
#2285 [16:25] <Kealper> Stronglime: that last one, the one you responded to was directed at you
#2286 [16:25] <Kealper> because last time i checked, having drivers from 2009 was not counted as having the latest drivers
#2287 [16:25] <Stronglime> Kea i just told you that i istalled same drivers
#2288 [16:25] <hellofthedevil> 38%r.a.m which is normal for ma comp
#2289 [16:25] <Stronglime> same OS
#2290 [16:26] <Stronglime> and it worked before
#2291 [16:26] <Stronglime> now reistalled same OS
#2292 [16:26] <Stronglime> but it dosent work
#2293 [16:26] <Stronglime> drivers are the same/better
#2294 [16:26] <mbentley> how are you sure of that?
#2295 [16:28] <Stronglime> ..uhm i am?
#2296 [16:28] <Stronglime> i could try to--
#2297 [16:28] <aetherian> how did you find out what your drivers were?
#2298 [16:28] <Stronglime> what you mean Aetherian?
#2299 [16:29] <Stronglime> i think i just broke my cd....
#2300 [16:29] <Stronglime> Shit.
#2301 [16:29] <Stronglime> drivers cd.
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#2303 [16:29] <aetherian> ...
#2304 [16:29] <aetherian> I mean
#2305 [16:29] <aetherian> you say you know they are the latest
#2306 [16:29] <CoyoteBongwater> Need help!
#2307 [16:29] <aetherian> where did you look
#2308 [16:30] <aetherian> yes, coyot?
#2309 [16:30] <Stronglime> i donwloaded yesterday
#2310 [16:30] <CoyoteBongwater> How do I add my mods?
#2311 [16:30] <Kealper> CoyoteBongwater: you would have to check the mod's help file, or ask the person who made the mods
#2312 [16:31] <CoyoteBongwater> it doesnt have one and i cant get ahold of him.
#2313 [16:31] <CoyoteBongwater> Its just a Minimap.
#2314 [16:31] <Stronglime> so that's the problem:java
#2315 [16:32] <Stronglime> all other stuff works
#2316 [16:32] <Kealper> CoyoteBongwater: we don't officially provide support for mods in this channel, this is for unmodded game help only :/
#2317 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> wait, what? How did you break your drivers' CD?
#2318 [16:32] <Stronglime> nah
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#2320 [16:32] <CoyoteBongwater> Hmm. Where would the mods one be?
#2321 [16:32] <Stronglime> nearly
#2322 [16:32] <Stronglime> i mean
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#2324 [16:33] <Stronglime> it got stuck in the cd reader oddly,
#2325 [16:33] <Kealper> CoyoteBongwater: depends on the mod, really
#2326 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> (and for the love of all that you hold dear, stop using the Enter key as a comma!)
#2327 [16:33] <Stronglime> But works.
#2328 [16:33] <Kealper> CoyoteBongwater: usually the maker of the mod will say where you can get support for it
#2329 [16:33] <aetherian> dopeghoti:
#2330 [16:33] <aetherian> haha
#2331 [16:33] <aetherian> very funny
#2332 [16:34] <Stronglime> MY fault,people always say that but i just cant,i mean in real life you talk whit single words
#2333 [16:34] <aetherian> it's okay
#2334 [16:34] <aetherian> I do it too
#2335 [16:34] <aetherian> ignore him
#2336 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> Good idea.
#2337 [16:34] * GreyVulpine stabs aetherian
#2337 [16:34] * DopeGhoti /ignores Stronglime
#2337 [16:34] <Kealper> just remember....he can kick you from the channel if he wants :/
#2338 [16:34] <aetherian> kealper: and I really care...
#2339 [16:35] <aetherian> when I get kicked, ima reboot, so all with good planning.
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#2341 [16:35] * Kealper kicks AuBot
#2341 [16:35] <aetherian> dope: kick me, will ya?
#2342 [16:35] * ChanServ kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: KICK by DopeGhoti (Well, you asked.))
#2343 [16:35] <Kealper> lol
#2344 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> I try to keep our customers happy.
#2345 [16:36] <Stronglime> You are really ignoring me?
#2346 [16:36] <Stronglime> mean,odd
#2347 [16:36] <Stronglime> why?
#2348 [16:37] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#2349 [16:37] * Kealper coughs
#2349 [16:37] <Kealper> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-266.58-whql-driver.html
#2350 [16:37] <Stronglime> Some people i cant understand,really.
#2351 [16:38] <Stronglime> *heavyly chougs*
#2352 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> I didn't, Stronglime, but I'm going to if you don't start using more then 15 columns of text on my terminal
#2353 [16:38] <Stronglime> Donwloaded them 2 days ago
#2354 [16:38] <Stronglime> Still i dont know what Columns means,but it is quite cool as word
#2355 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> Huh. I didn't know Nvidia made sound cards.
#2356 [16:39] <SkiingPenguins> are you 12?!
#2357 [16:39] <Stronglime> Nope.why?
#2358 [16:39] <Kealper> that isn't sound card drivers
#2359 [16:39] <SkiingPenguins> you dont know what columns are
#2360 [16:39] <Stronglime> Maybe i dont know the english word.
#2361 [16:39] <SkiingPenguins> then thats different
#2362 [16:39] <mbentley> not everyone speaks english as their first language here
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#2364 [16:39] <aetherian> back
#2365 [16:40] <aetherian> reboot complete
#2366 [16:40] <Stronglime> oh that's,but makes no sense like that.
#2367 [16:40] <mbentley> but anyway, good luck. time for the weekend! whoo
#2368 [16:40] <Kealper> oh yeah...it's friday isn't it
#2369 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> All day.
#2370 [16:41] <Kealper> hmm....VIA makes onboard sound cards?
#2371 [16:41] <aetherian> :o
#2372 [16:41] <Stronglime> Crap.I mean one of my fav games dosent work
#2373 [16:41] <Kealper> that probably sounds wonderful! /s
#2374 [16:41] <Stronglime> i dont even know what VIA is
#2375 [16:42] <Stronglime> exept of sound drivers ofc
#2376 [16:42] <Kealper> VIA is a computer chip maker
#2377 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> it's a chipset manufacturer/designer
#2378 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> Similar to AMD, but more specialized.
#2379 [16:42] <Stronglime> Nvidia is my favorite,still Nvidia+Ati would be wonderfull
#2380 [16:42] <Stronglime> as AMD+Pentium
#2381 [16:43] * Kealper is confuesed
#2381 [16:43] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: You're not the only one.
#2382 [16:43] <Kealper> right then
#2383 [16:43] <Stronglime> Dont worry if you dont understand a word of what im saying! it is normal
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#2385 [16:44] <Stronglime> ---Still why you are both confused?
#2386 [16:44] * DopeGhoti isn't worried, so much as increasingly baffled.
#2386 [16:45] <Kealper> because you just said nvidia + ati is good, but those are both graphics chipset makers, and you also said that amd + pentium is good, but amd is a cpu chipset maker, and pentium is a chipset model by the cpu chipset maker Intel
#2387 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> Though, yes, all of them are good.
#2388 [16:46] <Stronglime> I meant they could uhm
#2389 [16:46] <Stronglime> put---togheter
#2390 [16:46] <Kealper> is anyone else having issues with their server not letting people log in? or is my server just being stupid?
#2391 [16:46] <Stronglime> what's the word in english?
#2392 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> (speaking of good; someone talk me out of buying a color Nook please?)
#2393 [16:46] <Kealper> color Nook?
#2394 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: mc.net is being squirrely
#2395 [16:46] <Kealper> oh, then in offline mode my server stays!
#2396 [16:47] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: hmm....although that has color, i'd probably still want a Kindle more, it's screen is just amazing for reading ebooks
#2397 [16:48] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: So is the screen on the original Nook, which I have but it has been co-opted by K.
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#2400 [16:49] <Stronglime> An out of contest question:Any of you know Akinator?
#2401 [16:49] <Kealper> hmm....although that new Nook has the wifis, and a web browser...it seems like more of a mobile internet device that is good at reading ebooks...idk, the more i read about it, the more i kind of like that color Nook
#2402 [16:49] <DopeGhoti> Damn, there goes $250 from my laptop fund.
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#2404 [16:50] <Stronglime> So so guys..my java is going hell,what should i do?
#2405 [16:50] <Kealper> beat it with a stick and then reinstall it
#2406 [16:50] <aetherian> define: hell
#2407 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> Hell (n, proper): A small city in Michigan, US.
#2408 [16:51] <Kealper> lol
#2409 [16:52] <Kealper> i want that Nook now :(
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#2411 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> Dammit. I asked you to talk me _out_ of it.
#2412 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> (it's also easily rootable, and this a fully-functioning Android tablet, too)
#2413 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> er, thus.
#2414 [16:55] <Kealper> OH GOSH....i really want one now.....what sort of specs does it have?
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#2416 [16:55] * Kealper hit sthe googles
#2416 [16:55] <Kealper> hits the* ffs
#2417 [16:56] <j4mie> quick question, how do i generate screenshots of the world on my server?
#2418 [16:56] * mib_fba20h [mib_fba20h@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2419 [16:56] <Taz605> f2
#2420 [16:56] <mib_fba20h> everytime i try logging in i get a connection lost timed out error
#2421 [16:57] <j4mie> i mean, serverside
#2422 [16:57] <mib_fba20h> can someone tell me whats wrong?
#2423 [16:57] <j4mie> as in a topdown/oblique angle
#2424 [16:57] <Taz605> j4mie f2 use a srceenshot
#2425 [16:57] <Kealper> mib_fba20h: minecraft.net is having a few problems with logging in right now
#2426 [16:57] <Kealper> j4mie: check out programs like c10t or Cartograph
#2427 [16:58] <j4mie> ty, i've heard of cartograph, will give it a lookie
#2428 [16:58] <Kealper> i perfer Cartograph for my server, but others like c10t for some of it's features
#2429 [17:00] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: sorry for saying don't get one, but heck, i'm probably going to snag one myself as soon as i get the spare cash xD
#2430 [17:00] <Kealper> for not saying don't get one*
#2431 [17:00] <AG_Elias> pigmap rocks.
#2432 [17:00] <AG_Elias> Hands down for speed and the handling of big maps.
#2433 [17:00] <Kealper> pigmap?
#2434 [17:00] <AG_Elias> Pigmap.
#2435 [17:00] * Kealper googles
#2435 [17:01] <AG_Elias> Written in C++, very fast. Did CraftHub's map (1gb) in 30 minutes.
#2436 [17:01] <Kealper> 1gb map? that's pretty intense lol
#2437 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> I'm guessing, c10t/mcmap type program?
#2438 [17:01] <AG_Elias> Takes some server knowledge to setup. AllGamer has a guide for it, if you are interested.
#2439 [17:02] <AG_Elias> http://wiki.allgamer.net/Setting_up_pigmap
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#2441 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> Wow, that's pretty nice.
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#2443 [17:04] <Checkzor> so why is the whole login thing for minecraft.ent beins so slow
#2444 [17:04] <Kealper> either server load, or they are currently messing with it
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#2446 [17:05] <DopeGhoti> Probably both.
#2447 [17:05] <Checkzor> because even joining other peoples server it works like 1 out of every 10 tries
#2448 [17:05] <DopeGhoti> well, actually probably just the former as it's 2300 on Stockholm.
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#2450 [17:09] <Kealper> so anyways....i did a rewrite on my server wrapper last night
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#2452 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> Oh?
#2453 [17:10] <Kealper> it now has tiered permission levels (instead of just full power and no power) and stuff....and it has colors in it's messages lol
#2454 [17:11] <Kealper> and i've got a rather well-integrated chat bridge between my server and my chat program i made
#2455 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> That sounds a lot more featureful than the sockets-based wrapper I use
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#2457 [17:12] <j4mie> Kealper thanks for the cartograph link, that thing's exactly what i was looking for :D!
#2458 [17:13] <Kealper> my wrapper is just stdio, so it also needs no updating after server updates, and even has a command that can be issued from a remote console to download the latest server jar, stop the server, update it, and start it back up
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#2460 [17:13] <AG_Elias> Kealper: I have a website we need to help people who need more RAM to run their servers. http://www.downloadmoreram.com/
#2461 [17:14] <Kealper> LOL
#2462 [17:14] <j4mie> I have one more question tho :P
#2463 [17:15] <Kealper> yes?
#2464 [17:15] <j4mie> Some guys have decided to stretch the map out, i'm pretty sure there's a plugin or something where I can cutoff these peices that I don't need.
#2465 [17:15] <j4mie> *pieces
#2466 [17:15] <Kealper> maybe MCEdit, but i have not actually tried removing whole chunks with it
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#2468 [17:16] <j4mie> kay, thanks!
#2469 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> Actually, I have a script that will trip maps for you
#2470 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> er, trim
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#2472 [17:17] <Kealper> trip maps? sounds pretty trippy
#2473 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> I need to contact the other author to see if I can share it though.
#2474 [17:17] <Kealper> what does it do?
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#2476 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> It asks for X and Z min/max coordinates, and deletes chunks not inside those boundaries
#2477 [17:18] <Kealper> oh
#2478 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> which sounds kinda exactly what j4mie is looking for
#2479 [17:20] <j4mie> oh ok, cool
#2480 [17:20] <j4mie> that would be awesome
#2481 [17:20] <j4mie> can you share it?
#2482 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> checking now
#2483 [17:21] <Taz605> what laugue you make it in?
#2484 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> Python
#2485 [17:22] <Taz605> i love gtirch holes
#2486 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> My server community has a system for 'chunkmining'.
#2487 [17:23] <Taz605> chunkmining?
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#2489 [17:23] <Xanlis> hello
#2490 [17:23] <Taz605> yo
#2491 [17:23] <Xanlis> i have prob with my game :(
#2492 [17:23] <Taz605> what?
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#2494 [17:24] <Xanlis> "loadlibrary failed with error 998: l'accès à cet emplacement de la mémoire n'est pas valide" > Invalid access memory location
#2495 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> Taz605: "Stand there. No, there. One more step. Good. Now, dig nineteen blocks, then go four blocks North for Iron."
#2496 [17:24] <Kealper> that's cheatin'!
#2497 [17:24] <Xanlis> my GC drivers are good :(
#2498 [17:24] <Taz605> ohh using the holes to find stuff
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#2500 [17:26] <Xanlis> and actually , game work on my laptop with old geforce 9700m GT , but not on my desktop with my HD 5870
#2501 [17:26] <relsqui> XD
#2502 [17:26] <Xanlis> ..
#2503 [17:27] <Xanlis> not funny :S
#2504 [17:27] <Taz605> don't ask me i camehere to chat :\
#2505 [17:27] <relsqui> I was giggling at DopeGhoti actually
#2506 [17:27] <AndrewPH> gamecube
#2507 [17:28] <SkiingPenguins> my cat likes meow mix
#2508 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> AndrewPH: N64?
#2509 [17:28] <AndrewPH> nintendo whii
#2510 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> SNES uber alles.
#2511 [17:28] <Taz605> sega
#2512 [17:28] <Taz605> end off
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#2514 [17:29] <Minty> hey guys the free website version and my paid version both have a black screen after the loading screen ??
#2515 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#2516 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> ^ try that, Minty .
#2517 [17:29] <Minty> already have reinstalled.
#2518 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> including specifically remofing the binary directory?
#2519 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> removing, rather?
#2520 [17:30] <Minty> O.O
#2521 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> (is that a 'no'?)
#2522 [17:30] <Minty> thats a "What in the heck did u just say"
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#2524 [17:31] <SkiingPenguins> so that's a no
#2525 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> If you don't understand what I said, you probably did not reinstall the binaries, so..
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#2527 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#2528 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> ^ Click. Read. Do.
#2529 [17:31] <Xanlis> no idea for my prob? coz i reinstall 3 time.. same
#2530 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> Xanlis: what version of java are you running?
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#2532 [17:32] <Xanlis> 6 update 23
#2533 [17:33] <maffin> hey
#2534 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> Xanlis: how much RAM have you?
#2535 [17:33] <Xanlis> 4gb
#2536 [17:33] <Taz605> used?
#2537 [17:34] <Minty> where in that link does it say anything about binaries
#2538 [17:34] <izzd> holy diamonds i just found around 20 in 1 group :)
#2539 [17:34] <maffin> maybe you can help me
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#2541 [17:34] <Xanlis> used?
#2542 [17:34] <Xanlis> ( sorry iam french & my english sucks. )
#2543 [17:34] <Taz605> how much ram are you using?
#2544 [17:35] <maffin> i have just hosted a server , opened the ports but i cant join the server
#2545 [17:35] <Xanlis> less than 1gb
#2546 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> j4mie: I got permission to share. You still around?
#2547 [17:35] <Minty> aish, just forget it
#2548 [17:35] <Xanlis> 1.32 now with ff irc & league of legend
#2549 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> Minty: you're running Windows I presume?
#2550 [17:35] <Minty> yes win 7
#2551 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> Minty: Start -> Run -> "%AppData%"
#2552 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> Minty: in there, open .minecraft
#2553 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> Minty: in *there*, delete the 'bin' directory
#2554 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> Fine, be that way, Minty.
#2555 [17:38] <Kealper> lol
#2556 [17:39] <qable> I don't know if you've had this issue before, but I can't seem to play Minecraft without having a glass of Coke, and I don't have that... halp! :(
#2557 [17:39] <Taz605> ...
#2558 [17:39] <qable> :(
#2559 [17:39] <Kealper> ok, this is a pretty simple fix
#2560 [17:40] <Kealper> first, click on Store
#2561 [17:40] <Taz605> don't drink coke
#2562 [17:40] <qable> rofl
#2563 [17:40] <Kealper> once you do that, you type "walk forward" about 10 times, and then you click "Purchash Coke"
#2564 [17:40] <j4mie> DopeGhoti
#2565 [17:40] <j4mie> o/
#2566 [17:40] <Kealper> problem solved :P
#2567 [17:41] <qable> thanks Kealper for clearing things up!
#2568 [17:41] <Kealper> alright i have a legit issue here
#2569 [17:41] <j4mie> half your age, plus seven
#2570 [17:41] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#2571 [17:41] <Kealper> Cartograph is crashing when i go to generate it! DopeGhoti! HALP!
#2572 [17:42] <Xanlis> i have error log if u want;..
#2573 [17:42] <j4mie> you typing in the map name correctly?
#2574 [17:43] <Kealper> in all seriousness though, anyone here tried the latest cartograph on windows 7 x64?
#2575 [17:43] <j4mie> yes
#2576 [17:43] <Kealper> seems to hate my computer
#2577 [17:43] <j4mie> just a few minutes ago
#2578 [17:43] <Kealper> hmm..where'd you download yours from?
#2579 [17:43] <SkiingPenguins> gimme download link ill try it on win7
#2580 [17:44] <nudel> is there anythink wrong with mc atm?
#2581 [17:45] <Kealper> hmm....crap...it was the custom texture.png i was trying....
#2582 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> j4mie: tag, you're it
#2583 [17:47] <j4mie> derp
#2584 [17:47] <j4mie> qable: tag, you're it
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#2586 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> j4mie: http://pastebin.com/T68SZsnC
#2587 [17:49] <nudel> i just started 3 days ago with mc and everything worked finde but now neither me or my friends can connect to my server properly. is this because of an update?
#2588 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Nope, recheck your port forwarding
#2589 [17:50] <Kealper> logging in for the server is a but hit-or-miss for me right now
#2590 [17:50] <Kealper> something is probably up with the website :/
#2591 [17:50] <j4mie> thanks dope :D
#2592 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> j4mie: no problem; just remember- back up your world first!
#2593 [17:50] <j4mie> yarp, way ahead of ya
#2594 [17:50] <j4mie> will try it out later tonight
#2595 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I actually haven't used c10t since I started using mcmap (:
#2596 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> (mcmap runs a lot faster anyhow)
#2597 [17:51] <Kealper> i didn't mean c10t, i mean Cartograph
#2598 [17:51] <Kealper> i think it's windows-only
#2599 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> j4mie: LMK how it works out for you. You'll need the bounding X and Z coordinates of the area you want to preserve
#2600 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: ah
#2601 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> c10t is/was a cross-platform rebuild of Cartograph
#2602 [17:52] <Kealper> oh
#2603 [17:52] <Kealper> TIL then lol
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#2605 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> I'm still learning how to speak Reddit.. TIL ?= "today I learned"
#2606 [17:53] <Kealper> i love how the resulting oblique-angled image of my smp map is 20mb
#2607 [17:53] <Kealper> yes dope
#2608 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> hah, my iso render is 67MiB
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#2610 [17:54] <Taz605> night ya'll
#2611 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> ciao
#2612 [17:54] <Kealper> well my map is only about 50mb, too lol
#2613 [17:54] <Taz605> mines 4,76mb :(
#2614 [17:55] <Kealper> multiplayer maps tend to grow quite quickly lol
#2615 [17:55] <Taz605> that single
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#2617 [17:58] <[ND]RayeS> Guys, to activate my purchase via paypal for minecraft do I need to fill in the Gift Code on the redeem page?
#2618 [17:59] <Kealper> uhh...did you just buy the game itself off paypal or did you buy a gift code off paypal?
#2619 [17:59] <[ND]RayeS> uhm.. good one :/
#2620 [17:59] <[ND]RayeS> lol
#2621 [17:59] <[ND]RayeS> ye think I bought a gift code
#2622 [17:59] <[ND]RayeS> instead of game :/
#2623 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> [ND]RayeS: well, you can redeem the gift code for yourself I imagine
#2624 [18:00] <Kealper> oh, it'll work either way, log in to minecraft.net and click on the Profile link
#2625 [18:00] <Kealper> there should be one gift code on on the bottom of that page
#2626 [18:00] <[ND]RayeS> ye
#2627 [18:00] <[ND]RayeS> then redeem page and redeem it?
#2628 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> yeppers
#2629 [18:00] <Kealper> copy that and go to http://minecraft.net/redeem.jsp and paste it into there
#2630 [18:00] <[ND]RayeS> You have successfully redeemed a gift coupon! You now have access to the full game!
#2631 [18:01] <[ND]RayeS> sweet
#2632 [18:01] <[ND]RayeS> thx guys :>
#2633 [18:01] <Kealper> np lol
#2634 [18:01] <[ND]RayeS> thats was the fail of the day I imagine :p
#2635 [18:01] <[ND]RayeS> dont use me as an fail example :<
#2636 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> Does anyone know whether the code Notch tweeted last night was Alpha or Beta? Just wondering (:
#2637 [18:01] <mbentley> oh you would be surprised...
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#2639 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> [ND]RayeS: no, you were actually quite succinct and a pleasant customer.
#2640 [18:02] * DopeGhoti gives [ND]RayeS a gold star
#2640 [18:02] <cobraphantom> are servers doign weird shit?
#2641 [18:02] <Kealper> ish
#2642 [18:02] <[ND]RayeS> xD cheers
#2643 [18:02] <cobraphantom> i run my own, and im having trouble connecting all day
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#2645 [18:02] <cobraphantom> "took too logn to connect" and "java time out"
#2646 [18:02] <Kealper> yeah, mine has been touch and go today, too....minecraft.net seems to be nerdraging
#2647 [18:02] <nudel> same for me...
#2648 [18:02] <mbentley> same here cobraphantom, it happens
#2649 [18:03] <cobraphantom> at least it aint me
#2650 [18:03] <Kealper> easiest fix is just to restart it with online-mode set to false in the server.properties
#2651 [18:03] <cobraphantom> will do
#2652 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> cobraphantom: note that the players have to have successfully logged into their clients or they will show up as "Player" on your server and not themselves
#2653 [18:04] <Kealper> i should ban the username "Player" on my server for times like these
#2654 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> I wonder..
#2655 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> !paid Player
#2656 [18:05] <Kealper> 2011-02-04 18:04:59 [INFO] CONSOLE: Banning Player
#2657 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> I should sign up under another email address as Player, and redeem my aplha code (:
#2658 [18:05] <Stronglime> uhm.still,any ideas about mah problem?
#2659 [18:06] <Kealper> lol dope
#2660 [18:06] <Stronglime> im just away
#2661 [18:06] <xales> Stronglime: People don't just magically come up with solutions.
#2662 [18:06] <xales> If you are so resistant to try the advice we give you, why should we even bother to look for a solution anyway?
#2663 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> Stronglime: Boot a Linux liveCD, see if it works there. If it does, instlal that OS and use it rather than Windows.
#2664 [18:07] <Kealper> XD
#2665 [18:07] <mbentley> then ask DopeGhoti all of your questions about linux
#2666 [18:07] <mbentley> :D
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#2669 [18:11] <Stronglime> odd thing is
#2670 [18:12] <Stronglime> all the ideas for me to fix the pc come out from nowhere while doing something else.odd
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#2673 [18:13] <Rait> Where's the minecraft_server.jar file?
#2674 [18:13] <xales> !server
#2675 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> !server
#2676 [18:13] <xales> >:)
#2677 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> that's not a ninja emoticon. You meant " "
#2678 [18:14] <Kealper> lol
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#2681 [18:14] <hellofthedevil> hey guys
#2682 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> Hey guy
#2683 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#2684 [18:14] <hellofthedevil> lol
#2685 [18:14] <Rait> oh hey yea, that was for me, i use windows, so would me usig the jar file still work good?
#2686 [18:15] <hellofthedevil> hows things
#2687 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> Rait: it should, yes
#2688 [18:15] <Rait> alright, thanks.
#2689 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> Rait: all the .exe is, is a wrapper for the same .jar (:
#2690 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> Good talk there, hellofthedevil.
#2691 [18:16] <xales> ._.
#2692 [18:16] <Rait> lul, it says i don't have enough ram when i use the jar. Does that matter or not?
#2693 [18:16] <SkiingPenguins> probably
#2694 [18:16] <AG_Elias> Yes.
#2695 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> How are you executing the .jar?
#2696 [18:17] <AG_Elias> How much RAM are you giving java when you execute the .jar?
#2697 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> Rait:you need to use the proper arguments for invoking the .jar
#2698 [18:17] <Rait> Idk?
#2699 [18:17] <AG_Elias> Wait, is this the client?
#2700 [18:17] <Rait> GreyVulpine: I just double click it.
#2701 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> server
#2702 [18:17] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#2702 [18:17] <AG_Elias> Ah
#2703 [18:17] <AG_Elias> You, sir, need parameters.
#2704 [18:17] <AG_Elias> Because 200mb is not enough.
#2705 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> You need to use the command line to execute it rait
#2706 [18:18] <Rait> Which is just doing it from the CMD, correct?
#2707 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Right
#2708 [18:18] <xales> Grey
#2709 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> (or a batch file, same diff)
#2710 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
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#2712 [18:18] <xales> I'm going to add a thing to my helper program to optionally download the latest jar into its own, new, folder
#2713 [18:18] <xales> and create a bat file to launch it
#2714 [18:19] <xales> as well as add java to the user's path
#2715 [18:19] <xales> :)
#2716 [18:19] <SkiingPenguins> ooohhh
#2717 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Neat.
#2718 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> Crazy talk, xales.
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#2720 [18:20] <Solvius> that thing is called red stuff ?
#2721 [18:20] <Rait> what might be the command to start it? or is it just java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#2722 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> That's it Rait
#2723 [18:20] <Rait> Said it wasn't able to access the jar file.
#2724 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Need to be in the directory where you have the .jar file
#2725 [18:21] <Rait> yeah, i have no clue what you mean.
#2726 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Where did you download the .jar file to?
#2727 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> What folder?
#2728 [18:21] <Rait> Desktop>Minecraft>MCserverjar
#2729 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> so, type in cd desktop/minecraft/mcserverjar
#2730 [18:21] * DopeGhoti 's eye twitches
#2730 [18:22] * SkiingPenguins watches on
#2730 [18:22] * xales puts a fork in DopeGhoti's twitching eye
#2730 [18:22] <xales> His peer must dislike him
#2731 [18:22] <SkiingPenguins> but that's us
#2732 [18:22] <Kealper> dislike him greatly
#2733 [18:22] <fogWraith> Who is this peer, and why is he reseting their connections!
#2734 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> D'aaaaahIfYouDon'tKnowWhatDirectoryMeansWhyTheHellAreYouTryingToRunASerer
#2735 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> ahem.
#2736 [18:22] <SkiingPenguins> ^.^
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#2738 [18:23] <fogWraith> Comcast \o/
#2739 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> God damn innernets...
#2740 [18:23] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: what did you do to Peer? he seems pretty angry and you
#2741 [18:23] <Kealper> at you*
#2742 [18:23] <Rait> Hey now, i'm just confused.
#2743 [18:23] * GreyVulpine blames comcast
#2743 [18:23] <SkiingPenguins> Rait if you dont know how to use the console you probably shouldnt be running a server with it
#2744 [18:23] <SkiingPenguins> that's basically what DopeGhoti said
#2745 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> Sorry, Rait, pay no mind to me.
#2746 [18:24] <Rait> Lul, i realize that dope.
#2747 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> I get snarky when there's a fork in my eye.
#2748 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Rait, in your command prompt right now, what's the path you see?
#2749 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> C:>.......
#2750 [18:24] <Rait> Yeah i know, but i'm trying something with the jar file so i can edit the files within it, cause i'm not able to transfer worlds from singleplayer to my SMP
#2751 [18:24] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#2752 [18:24] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2752 [18:24] <Rait> When i do, there's nothing there that i built on SP
#2753 [18:24] <jimbolaya> I got my server running earlier today. I can connect to it fine, but when I try to dig anything, I don't get any pieces. I have a feeling this is a simple fix, but I don't even know how to start looking as it's so general.
#2754 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> jimbolaya - Spawn protection. Move further away
#2755 [18:25] <jimbolaya> Huh, OK.
#2756 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Or make yourself op/admin on your server
#2757 [18:25] <Rait> just says C:/Users/Dono
#2758 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> okay. type in: cd desktop
#2759 [18:25] <Rait> mkay.
#2760 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> do you see it change to c:/users/Dono/desktop?
#2761 [18:25] <Rait> yeah
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#2764 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> now, cd minecraft/mcserverjar
#2765 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Then, type in: dir
#2766 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Do you see minecraft_server.jar listed?
#2767 [18:27] <Rait> yes sir.
#2768 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> This is where you'll type in the java line
#2769 [18:27] <Rait> Ahh, alright
#2770 [18:27] <feenyx> crap, auth servers are down again
#2771 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#2772 [18:28] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#2773 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2774 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#2775 [18:28] <feenyx> !check
#2776 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I hate you too Greybot
#2777 [18:28] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#2778 [18:28] <feenyx> !paid
#2779 [18:28] <feenyx> !paid feenyx
#2780 [18:29] <feenyx> myeah
#2781 [18:29] <SkiingPenguins> AuBot go RAWR in YO FACE!
#2782 [18:29] <Kealper> stupid minecraft.net
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#2784 [18:29] <Kealper> it'll respond eventually
#2785 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#2786 [18:29] <crickets> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2787 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Lies
#2788 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> s/minecraft.net/Amazon EC2/ # FTFY
#2789 [18:29] <jimbolaya> Thanks.
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#2791 [18:29] <Kealper> oh, wait, feenyx you typed that too fast, it ignored it
#2792 [18:30] <feenyx> !paid feenyx
#2793 [18:30] <Rait> is there an easier way to type in the cmd? oh do i just gotta type it in every time?
#2794 [18:30] <feenyx> lol
#2795 [18:30] <Rait> or do i*
#2796 [18:30] <feenyx> Kealper: flood limiting? :p
#2797 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Rait, no, you can write up a batch file to do the same thing
#2798 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> Rait: Look into mysterious incancations known as "Batch Files"
#2799 [18:30] <Kealper> feenyx: indeed
#2800 [18:31] <feenyx> anyone else have a server I can try connecting to?
#2801 [18:31] <Rait> DopeGhoti: alright sir, i shall.
#2802 [18:31] <Kealper> feenyx: mine will work, i've got it in offline mode atm
#2803 [18:31] <feenyx> offline is fine if you're already whitelisting I guess
#2804 [18:32] <Kealper> mine isn't whitelisted, but it's not advertised so it works out lol
#2805 [18:32] <SkiingPenguins> ^.^
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#2808 [18:37] <Rait> GreyVulpine: When i use the command line, it starts up the server then at the end it stops it right away?
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#2810 [18:38] <mib_l48rbn> hi
#2811 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> Rait: what does it say when it stops?
#2812 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> mib_l48rbn: Salutations.
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#2814 [18:38] <Rait> Preparing start region
#2815 [18:38] <Rait> then it goes right from that to
#2816 [18:38] <mib_l48rbn> was wondering, how do you find out the IP to try the beta multiplayer?
#2817 [18:38] <Rait> Stopping server
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#2820 [18:40] <Jackson413> yo dopeghoti
#2821 [18:40] <Jackson413> i got it working and the whole thing is almost done
#2822 [18:40] <Jackson413> the minecraft overviewer
#2823 [18:41] <Rait> Dopeghoti: Even if i try to start the jar by double clicking it, it's just opens and closes really quickly
#2824 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> mib_l48rbn: look on the forums, there are posts there for servers to which you can connect.
#2825 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> Rait: it doesn't say anything about why it might be stopping?
#2826 [18:41] <Rait> Not at all.
#2827 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> Rait: Strange. Usually if it's shutting down the server, it will tell you why.
#2828 [18:42] <Jackson413> rait check your java
#2829 [18:43] <Jackson413> make sure its current
#2830 [18:43] <Jackson413> jeez the map is still uploading
#2831 [18:43] <Rait> It is, everything else works.
#2832 [18:43] <Jackson413> i have nothing else then
#2833 [18:43] <Jackson413> wait what are your specs?
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#2835 [18:44] <Rait> amd turion x2 dual core mobile, rm-70 2.00 GHz
#2836 [18:44] <Rait> 3gb ram.
#2837 [18:44] <Rait> But i can run the .exe server file just fine.
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#2839 [18:44] <Jackson413> just curious can you run the java file via the batch file?
#2840 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> Rait: how presisely are you invoking the server from the command line?
#2841 [18:45] <Jackson413> i smell fire
#2842 [18:45] <Jackson413> OH SHIT
#2843 [18:45] <jordonias> no dont
#2844 [18:45] <Rait> Dopeghoti: like what command am i using to start it, or whatever?
#2845 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> yes.
#2846 [18:46] <Rait> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#2847 [18:47] <Checkzor> so is minecraft.net going slow today?
#2848 [18:47] <Checkzor> people take forever connecting to my server
#2849 [18:47] <Checkzor> is it just mine?
#2850 [18:47] <Jackson413> damn my dinner is burnt
#2851 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> Rait: you're awfully close. try: "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui"
#2852 [18:48] <Rait> still says stopping server
#2853 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> Would you mine pastebinning the entire output?
#2854 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> mind, even?
#2855 [18:49] <Jackson413> when did you install/update java
#2856 [18:49] <Jackson413> perhaps you need to reboot?
#2857 [18:49] <Jackson413> and what is your os?
#2858 [18:49] <Rait> not even a week ago. But im gonna try reinstalling the server
#2859 [18:49] <Rait> Vista 32
#2860 [18:51] <Rait> reintalled, and now it works.
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#2862 [18:53] <Rait> http://pastebin.com/xEqeRAFe Does this mean anything?
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#2864 [18:55] <feenyx> Kealper: hey presto, mine worked
#2865 [18:55] <feenyx> without changing anything
#2866 [18:59] <Kealper> feenyx: it was jealous that you were on mine and not it, so it started working for you :P
#2867 [19:01] <Rait> Does using the minecraft_server.jar work more effeciently then the .exe?
#2868 [19:01] <xales> No
#2869 [19:02] <xales> Again, all the .exe does is run the .jar for you
#2870 [19:02] <Rait> Ah.
#2871 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> well.. running the .jar means you don't have th eoverhead of the GUI, so arguably it would run better thanks to that.
#2872 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> only if you run it with nogui
#2873 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, it's the same
#2874 [19:04] <Rait> Oh, yeah, cause i perfer the nogui mode, less white on my screen.
#2875 [19:05] <xales> Actually, I have an idea
#2876 [19:05] <xales> what do you think about a server wrapper that just managed updating, configuring, and running the server, instead of modifying it?
#2877 [19:05] <xales> (eventually to have UPnP support)
#2878 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> "Hey, guys; I've flown on Southwest before, and now I just got this kit. Someone help me build this ultralight aircraft, please? Oh, and I need flying lessons."
#2879 [19:06] <feenyx> Kealper: must've been :p
#2880 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> "I put a third wing on my ultralight, and now it's flying all weird! What's wrong with this kit?"
#2881 [19:07] <Kealper> a server wrapper that just updates/configs the server...brilliant
#2882 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> I have such a wrapper.. it's called `wget -N` and `bash`. (:
#2883 [19:08] <Kealper> mine is called Server Hook.au3 :/
#2884 [19:08] <xales> Quick! `kill -9 $(ps ax | grep -i dopeghoti)`
#2885 [19:09] * DopeGhoti has left #MineCraftHelp (Connection reset by xales)
#2885 [19:09] <SkiingPenguins> i didnt know this was roleplay
#2886 [19:10] <Kealper> YES
#2887 [19:10] <Kealper> <+IdleRPG> Girnham [46/168] has challenged Kealper [61/164] in combat and lost! 0 days, 00:13:37 is added to Girnham's clock.
#2888 [19:10] <xales> lol
#2889 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> ..?
#2890 [19:10] <Kealper> won my first duel
#2891 [19:10] <xales> a winrar is you
#2892 [19:10] <SkiingPenguins> ew
#2893 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> Ah, IdleRPG. For when The Quiet Game needs rules.
#2894 [19:10] <Kealper> anywho
#2895 [19:11] <SkiingPenguins> notepad++ failed to open 400KB xml file -.-
#2896 [19:11] <Kealper> O.o
#2897 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: vim could handle it.
#2898 [19:11] <xales> I've vimmed my old #minecraft.log
#2899 [19:11] <xales> which was 8+MB
#2900 [19:11] <Kealper> i've had a few hundred mb file open in np++ before
#2901 [19:11] <SkiingPenguins> and that's the weird part
#2902 [19:12] <SkiingPenguins> opens with notepad in less than a second -_-
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#2904 [19:13] <Kealper> wait.....i just noticed something weird....
#2905 [19:13] <Kealper> http://kealper.pastebin.com/D6tAi0FG look at the timestamps
#2906 [19:14] <SkiingPenguins> lol fail
#2907 [19:14] <Kealper> and that's how it is in my irssi too lol
#2908 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> ...
#2909 [19:15] <SkiingPenguins> http://skiingpenguins.pastebin.com/bgZkCMS0 <-
#2910 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> !join #idle
#2911 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> Y'all also idle in #TARDIS?
#2912 [19:15] <Etherict> Anybody know where I might be able to go for help with the Bravo server?
#2913 [19:15] <SkiingPenguins> i thought tardis was the evil people from dr. who
#2914 [19:15] <Kealper> what's #TARDIS?
#2915 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> What about it Etherict?
#2916 [19:15] <Kealper> sorry, what is in it*
#2917 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> er, "Bravo server"?
#2918 [19:16] <Etherict> Commands, how to op, ban, and soft reset
#2919 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: http://lmgtfy.com?q=TARDIS
#2920 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> op person's name
#2921 [19:16] <SkiingPenguins> oh that
#2922 [19:16] <SkiingPenguins> i knew it was dr. who, DopeGhoti :P
#2923 [19:17] <Kealper> dope i meant to say what is in that channel? lol
#2924 [19:17] <xales> GreyVulpine: Gotta register with the bot :P
#2925 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Won't let me
#2926 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> /msg idleRPG register?
#2927 [19:18] <xales> yes, then look at the reply for full syntax
#2928 [19:18] <Kealper> register username password class
#2929 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Didn't send me anything
#2930 [19:18] <xales> it takes a second
#2931 [19:18] <SkiingPenguins> maybe you're time warping
#2932 [19:18] <xales> bit slow
#2933 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#2934 [19:18] <statik> xales: How would I disconnect form an SSH session with the server still running then later reconnect?
#2935 [19:18] <Kealper> username can be whatever, but i have mine as the same so it hilights me, password can be whatever, and class can be whatever
#2936 [19:18] <xales> statik: screen.
#2937 [19:19] <xales> Kealper: 15:35:53 -IdleRPG(idle@cecil.rpgamer.com)- You found a level 32 pair of gloves! Your current pair of gloves is only level 19, so it seems Luck is with you!
#2938 [19:19] <Kealper> gg
#2939 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> I have the outline of that screen primer written already )
#2940 [19:19] <xales> \o/
#2941 [19:19] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#2942 [19:19] <xales> DopeGhoti: Want us to read it over?
#2943 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> sure, sec..
#2944 [19:19] * Kealper puts on his reading glasses and scoots closer to the screen
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#2945 [19:20] * xales reaches out of Kealper's screen and breaks his glasses. Don't sit so close! Mommy warned you!
#2945 [19:20] <Kealper> :O
#2946 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> http://kealper.pastebin.com/jkjZctaQ (because for some reason I didn't notice I was on a subpastebin)
#2947 [19:21] <Kealper> gg
#2948 [19:23] <Kealper> now it just needs content lol
#2949 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> Like I said- outline.
#2950 [19:23] * mib_xjyv3f [mib_xjyv3f@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2951 [19:23] <mbentley> pesky content...
#2952 [19:23] <mib_xjyv3f> helloo?
#2953 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#2954 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> Salutations.
#2955 [19:23] <mib_xjyv3f> :)
#2956 [19:23] <mbentley> pip pip cheerio
#2957 [19:23] <mib_xjyv3f> my minecraft crashes :O
#2958 [19:24] <mib_xjyv3f> when i just start it up
#2959 [19:24] <mbentley> sounds devastating
#2960 [19:24] <Stronglime> hey mans
#2961 [19:24] <mib_xjyv3f> indeed
#2962 [19:24] <Stronglime> you are here 24/7?
#2963 [19:24] <mbentley> what sort of error you getting?
#2964 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_xjyv3f - Do you get a crash or error log?
#2965 [19:24] <mib_xjyv3f> yeah
#2966 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Could you paste it at www.pastebin.com?
#2967 [19:24] <xales> Yes, Stronglime, we never eat, sleep, work, or go to the bathroom.
#2968 [19:24] <mib_xjyv3f> i'll try that
#2969 [19:24] <mbentley> i wear diapers like that crazy astronaut lady
#2970 [19:24] <Stronglime> Yessss bots!
#2971 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> We're all here 24/7 to help you
#2972 [19:25] <Stronglime> i suggest you crips and pizza
#2973 [19:25] <Stronglime> for surviving
#2974 [19:25] <Stronglime> in front of pc
#2975 [19:25] <mbentley> just rocked takeout chinese
#2976 [19:25] <mbentley> SO GOOD
#2977 [19:25] <mbentley> general tso
#2978 [19:25] <Stronglime> Agree
#2979 [19:25] <mib_xjyv3f> what's pastebin for?
#2980 [19:25] <mbentley> that man sure knew his chicken
#2981 [19:25] <SkiingPenguins> atfirst i thought you said takeout cheese
#2982 [19:25] <mbentley> mib_xjyv3f: paste the text of the error
#2983 [19:25] <mbentley> assuming you got one
#2984 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_xjyv3f - So you don't spam the contents of the error log here
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#2986 [19:26] <mib_xjyv3f> and then what
#2987 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> You paste it at www.pastebin.com, then give us the URL
#2988 [19:26] <mib_xjyv3f> will happen
#2989 [19:26] <mbentley> because pasting in here is really annoying, hard to read and makes me club baby seals
#2990 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> We'l then take a look at it
#2991 [19:27] <mib_xjyv3f> http://pastebin.com/LaePuGwP
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#2993 [19:27] <fenster> hi
#2994 [19:27] <SkiingPenguins> hello
#2995 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> mib_xjyv3f - Did you try modding your minecraft in any way?
#2996 [19:27] <fenster> is this for minecraft
#2997 [19:27] <mib_xjyv3f> yup :P
#2998 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> That would do it mib_xjyv3f, try this:
#2999 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> !reinstall
#3000 [19:28] <SkiingPenguins> lol you mod your minecraft then come as for help
#3001 [19:28] <mib_xjyv3f> :D
#3002 [19:28] <mib_xjyv3f> very well
#3003 [19:28] <mib_xjyv3f> toodles
#3004 [19:28] <xales> fenster: No, #minecrafthelp is actually for cooking advice.
#3005 [19:28] <fenster> how do i log in because went i log in it wont work
#3006 [19:28] <SkiingPenguins> damn kids
#3007 [19:28] <xales> What does 'wont work' mean?
#3008 [19:29] <fenster> i have a account but it wont let me log in only the hamepage of the web site
#3009 [19:29] <fenster> not the game
#3010 [19:29] <xales> Did you buy the game?
#3011 [19:29] <fenster> no
#3012 [19:29] <jordonias> minecraft.net is having issues, u gotta keep trying to log in
#3013 [19:29] * Kealper facedesks
#3013 [19:29] <xales> The download game isn't free
#3014 [19:30] <mbentley> well he said the homepage
#3015 [19:30] <xales> you have to have a premium account to log into it
#3016 [19:30] <xales> mbentley: He said only the homepage, not the game
#3017 [19:30] <fenster> so i need to buy the game in order to log in
#3018 [19:30] <xales> fenster: You need to buy the game to play the not-free version.
#3019 [19:30] * mib_73pfef [mib_73pfef@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3020 [19:30] <mib_73pfef> errr
#3021 [19:30] <mib_73pfef> hey i'm back
#3022 [19:30] <mib_73pfef> :D
#3023 [19:30] <fenster> wicth is
#3024 [19:30] <xales> You can play the free version by going to http://minecraft.net/play.jsp
#3025 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3026 [19:30] <mbentley> um, xales you have to login to play classic
#3027 [19:30] <xales> mbentley: He said he could log in on the site.
#3028 [19:31] <xales> and only for classic multiplayer
#3029 [19:31] <mib_73pfef> i can't move it to the recycle bin, it's saying it's open in another program or smt
#3030 [19:31] <xales> mib_73pfef: Reboot computer, then try
#3031 [19:31] <SkiingPenguins> xales ninja'd me
#3032 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_73pfef - You need to close down minecraft
#3033 [19:31] <mib_73pfef> i did
#3034 [19:31] <mbentley> oh sorry, the wording was jacked up
#3035 [19:31] <SkiingPenguins> and all java processs, mib_73pfef
#3036 [19:31] <xales> mbentley: It always is, :(
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#3038 [19:31] <mbentley> lol
#3039 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_73pfef - Then pull up your task manager, end all javaw.exe processes
#3040 [19:31] <mbentley> true story
#3041 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> and try again
#3042 [19:31] <mib_73pfef> ok
#3043 [19:32] <mib_73pfef> thanks
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#3045 [19:32] <blinky> what the site for the free virson
#3046 [19:33] <blinky> anyone
#3047 [19:33] <Kealper> minecraft classic?
#3048 [19:33] <xales> blinky: Uh, Minecraft.net?
#3049 [19:33] <SkiingPenguins> minecraft.net...?
#3050 [19:33] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/play.jsp that?
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#3052 [19:35] <operation47> I'm having some trouble running minecraft. Loading it in the browser updates it and then a white screen of death. Using the program, I play for a few minutes and it freezes (black screen of death) and nothing gets saved. nay help?
#3053 [19:35] <xales> operation47: What are the specs of your computer?
#3054 [19:37] <operation47> uhhh windows vista, your gonna have to tell me how to find info out, Im not very computer savy
#3055 [19:37] <xales> Open the start menu, in the search box, type 'dxdiag' and press enter
#3056 [19:37] <xales> Answer yes if it asks you about WHQL logo or something
#3057 [19:37] <xales> Once it has loaded, click 'Save file' and save it on your desktop
#3058 [19:37] <statik> xales: screen -r 1 .. Check and thanks
#3059 [19:38] <xales> let me know once you got that, operation47
#3060 [19:38] <operation47> I clicked save all information onto my desktop
#3061 [19:40] <xales> ok, open that file up, and copy everything in it, then go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it into the box, and click Submit
#3062 [19:40] <xales> then, copy the URL it sends you to, and paste that in here
#3063 [19:41] <operation47> http://pastebin.com/U6kxjSE5
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#3065 [19:42] <xales> ok, that looks good...
#3066 [19:42] <xales> open the Start Menu again, and in the search bar, type '%appdata%'
#3067 [19:42] <xales> then, go into the .minecraft folder
#3068 [19:42] <xales> and delete everything in it, except the 'saves' folder
#3069 [19:42] <blinky> i may get the game today
#3070 [19:42] <blinky> ?
#3071 [19:42] <blinky> d
#3072 [19:42] <blinky> d
#3073 [19:42] <blinky> d
#3074 [19:42] <blinky> dd
#3075 [19:42] <blinky> d
#3076 [19:42] <blinky> d
#3077 [19:42] <blinky> d
#3078 [19:42] <blinky> d
#3079 [19:42] <blinky> d
#3080 [19:42] * Kealper kicked blinky from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: blinky)
#3081 [19:43] <xales> ...
#3082 [19:43] <xales> ninja
#3083 [19:43] <mbentley> lol
#3084 [19:43] <Kealper> i'm quite glad that actually tabbed to his name, i just typed /kb b then tabbed once and hit enter lol
#3085 [19:43] <operation47> k, did that
#3086 [19:44] <xales> Try re-running Minecraft now
#3087 [19:44] <Kealper> after i tweek my texture pack a bit i'm going to work on making aubot kick if someone sends 3+ messages in 2 seconds
#3088 [19:45] <operation47> woot! that fixed it in browser, hopefully it works for the downloaded version of it too
#3089 [19:45] <operation47> thanks =D
#3090 [19:46] <xales> no problem
#3091 [19:46] <xales> Kealper: People like blinky are why #minecraft being +M is the best thing to ever happen
#3092 [19:47] <Kealper> yeah, but i'm reluctant to have this channel +M
#3093 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> I'd still lobby for a take-a-number system in here and making it +m.
#3094 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> But then we'd need #MineCraftHelpHelp
#3095 [19:47] <xales> I actually had thought of that
#3096 [19:48] <Kealper> i was thinking about that, +m and just having everyone on voice, if someone is retarded but not enough to kick, devoice
#3097 [19:48] <xales> but seems a bit impractical given the level of intelligence of people in here
#3098 [19:48] <xales> Kealper: Auto-voice anything that isn't a webirc
#3099 [19:48] <Kealper> yeah, that
#3100 [19:48] <Kealper> lol
#3101 [19:48] <Sirhc> How come when I break stuff on my server nothing breakes?
#3102 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> Sirhc: Walk away from spawn.
#3103 [19:48] <Kealper> ninja'd
#3104 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> doubly ninja'd
#3105 [19:49] <xales> ninja'd my ninja'd
#3106 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> Wachow!
#3107 [19:49] <Kealper> lol
#3108 [19:50] * DopeGhoti busts out the nunchuks and flails a bit, bonking himself upside the head, and loses his grip on the handle, sending them flying into AuBot.
#3108 [19:50] <Sirhc> Thanks DopeGhoti >.<
#3109 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> Sirhc: Pleasure.
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#3111 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> Maybe have the channel +m, not autovoice anyone, and have a bot /notice anyone who joins saying "Send me a message to get voiced". Anyone failing this literacy test doesn't get to ask questions.
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#3113 [19:55] <feenyx> I wasn't aware the vops in here were prone to illiteracy
#3114 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> feenyx: no, just the hozillions of people whom we ask whether they have tried reinstalling Minecraft, who reply "Well, I tried importing it into my sausage grinder, but it turned into cheese."
#3115 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> (I exaggerate slightly)
#3116 [19:56] <feenyx> ymmv, I guess
#3117 [19:56] <feenyx> :p
#3118 [19:57] <feenyx> I'm in agreement though
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#3120 [20:03] <Kealper> oh joy....my texture pack looks awesome now....i jacked Painterly's epic clouds lol
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#3122 [20:06] <Kealper> lol at ks's quit message
#3123 [20:06] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#3124 [20:06] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper do you know much about xboxes?
#3125 [20:07] <Kealper> uhh....depends, why?
#3126 [20:07] <SkiingPenguins> it only turns on when i switch my tv from cable to hdmi
#3127 [20:07] <SkiingPenguins> example: i cannot turn my xbox on with my controller if i am watching discovery channel..
#3128 [20:07] <lemon-rev> wtf you dont need coal anymore if you only use wood you can still make touches i didnt know that at all :(
#3129 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: welcome to 1.2_022.
#3130 [20:08] <Kealper> that........i have no idea lol
#3131 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> s/22/2/
#3132 [20:08] <SkiingPenguins> alright
#3133 [20:08] <lemon-rev> no its well i didnt know about the new thing with charcol lol
#3134 [20:08] <lemon-rev> watching younoob now lol im like wtf
#3135 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Welcome to the future.
#3136 [20:08] <Kealper> lol
#3137 [20:08] <lemon-rev> lol
#3138 [20:09] <SkiingPenguins> my interwebs are so slow i open tabs of youtube videos and wait for them to load
#3139 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Pretty soon, we'll get oil.. and glowy uranium ore..
#3140 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> And then the Hidden Fun Stuff will kill us all
#3141 [20:09] <lemon-rev> well that glowy stuff could be good for poising zombies lol
#3142 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Oh god, Hidden Fun Stuff.
#3143 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> <3 DF.
#3144 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Haven't touched that game in a couple years.
#3145 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> Nor I
#3146 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> I was about to get back into it, and then Minecraft happened to me
#3147 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Same
#3148 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> I actually recall seeing some posts on the DF fora about a 3D terrain generator which, now that I think about it, look a lot like an ancestor of Minecraft
#3149 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> Oh, sure.
#3150 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> I wonder if that was Notch, or some parallel project
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#3152 [20:13] <Kealper> i'd laugh if it was Notch
#3153 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> I'd be really hard-pressed to find those posts now. Meh.
#3154 [20:16] <Kealper> ugh....should i make the anti-spam module the right way or the fast way.......
#3155 [20:16] <Kealper> <+IdleRPG> crickets [9/10] has challenged Kealper [125/164] in combat and lost! 0 days, 00:01:16 is added to crickets's clock.
#3156 [20:16] <Kealper> :P
#3157 [20:17] <SkiingPenguins> wow..
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#3159 [20:17] <Kealper> ugh......i'll make it the right way i guess....it'd be useless if i just threw it together quickly and it crapped out
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#3161 [20:20] <Sirhc> Why do I have a red cape?
#3162 [20:20] <mbentley> ooh, there is an idlerpg on this server... sweet
#3163 [20:20] <Kealper> a red cape on what?
#3164 [20:20] <Sirhc> my back
#3165 [20:20] <Kealper> mbentley: #idle :P
#3166 [20:20] <Kealper> Sirhc: screenshot?
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#3169 [20:23] <Hsdude> Hey, can anyone help me with a problem?
#3170 [20:23] <Kealper> we can try
#3171 [20:24] <Hsdude> Well, when I start the game, everything works smoothly... I go to single player, load and game, and when I enter the game, it all of a sudden just lags
#3172 [20:24] <xales> System specs?
#3173 [20:25] <Hsdude> I don't know them :/
#3174 [20:25] <Hsdude> They're decent enough to be able to run most current software
#3175 [20:26] <mbentley> whoo ready to idle :)
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#3177 [20:27] <Hsdude> Any suggestions?
#3178 [20:27] <Kealper> current software or current games?
#3179 [20:27] <Kealper> huge difference between the two
#3180 [20:27] <Sirhc> Kealper, http://i.imgur.com/YYUv4.png
#3181 [20:28] <Hsdude> most software, and quite a few games
#3182 [20:28] <Kealper> Sirhc: fake
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#3184 [20:28] <Sirhc> Kealper, huh? Its not fake...
#3185 [20:28] <Kealper> Sirhc: that is the guy's skin texture, trying to look like Notch
#3186 [20:28] <Sirhc> Kealper, Its me.. and I don't remember changing my skin =\
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#3188 [20:29] <Kealper> well, it's part of that skin, a real cape is detached, and can move around in ghetto minecraft-esque physics
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#3190 [20:30] <Sirhc> Ahh.. I dunno what happened.... Happen to know where I can find a nice new skin?
#3191 [20:30] <Kealper> loads of em at http://minecraftskins.com
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#3194 [20:31] <Hsdude> sooo.... am I just down on luck with my issue?
#3195 [20:31] <chesser45> ! check 75.154.230.244
#3196 [20:31] <Kealper> Hsdude: we can't do much unless we know what sort of computer you're using
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#3198 [20:31] <Kealper> chesser45: close, but no cigar, you've got a space between ! and check
#3199 [20:31] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> !check 72.21.11.210
#3200 [20:32] <chesser45> !check 75.154.230.244
#3201 [20:32] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> damn >.>
#3202 [20:32] <Hsdude> It's a Gateway Netbook
#3203 [20:32] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> n on luck with my issue?
#3204 [20:32] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> 20:31 chesser45 • !
#3205 [20:32] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> oops
#3206 [20:32] <Kealper> chesser45: once more, you sent your message right after AuBot responded to Ruggsy[]Umb[] lol
#3207 [20:32] <Kealper> alternatively
#3208 [20:32] <chesser45> lol
#3209 [20:32] <chesser45> damn'
#3210 [20:33] <Kealper> just typing !check without any address will make it check your ip that you are on irc with
#3211 [20:33] <feenyx> !check 75.154.230.244
#3212 [20:33] <xales> Hsdude: That would be the issue
#3213 [20:33] <chesser45> !check
#3214 [20:33] <xales> netbooks aren't powerful enough to run games very well
#3215 [20:33] <Hsdude> weird... I've been able to run other games just fine on it
#3216 [20:34] <Hsdude> oh well...
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#3218 [20:34] <chesser45> check! 173.180.44.129
#3219 [20:34] <Kealper> minecraft is quite hard on computers, since the entire enviroment is changable, most games have static enviroments, making them easier to run
#3220 [20:34] <Kealper> what's that do?
#3221 [20:34] <chesser45> omg
#3222 [20:34] <chesser45> fail
#3223 [20:34] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> lol
#3224 [20:35] <xales> Kealper: I'm going to test something :o
#3225 [20:35] <xales> but not for a while
#3226 [20:35] <chesser45> !check 173.180.44.129
#3227 [20:35] <Hsdude> Ah, ok... so there's no way to change the type of enviroment?
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#3230 [20:35] <Kealper> nope :/
#3231 [20:35] <chesser45> damn .....
#3232 [20:35] <Hsdude> :/
#3233 [20:35] <Hsdude> Well, thanks anyways for the help :)
#3234 [20:35] <Sirhc> Should 1tb be enough bw for a 5 person smp server?
#3235 [20:35] <chesser45> damn .....
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#3237 [20:35] <chesser45> now my server crashed and it doesnt like my ip
#3238 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> 1TB of...
#3239 [20:35] <xales> Sirhc: Definately
#3240 [20:36] <xales> if you mean bandwidth
#3241 [20:36] <Sirhc> I do mean bandwidth
#3242 [20:36] <AppLeNaToR> whats the upload speed a client needs to be able to properly play on a server?
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#3245 [20:37] <mib_zahwm9> can any one help me my email was hacked and i need to switch my email for minecraft if i can i would like to give a diffrent email if you can
#3246 [20:37] <feenyx> you'd need to contact support@mojang.com for that
#3247 [20:37] <feenyx> we have no way of interfering with accounts I'm afraid
#3248 [20:37] <Kirisuto> New here, just wanted to say hi to everyone.
#3249 [20:38] <Kealper> ello
#3250 [20:38] <mib_zahwm9> ok that helps
#3251 [20:38] <xales> AppLeNaToR: Not much
#3252 [20:38] <xales> .reload
#3253 [20:38] <MCHelpBot> Reloaded scripts
#3254 [20:38] <xales> .minecraft
#3255 [20:38] <SkiingPenguins> o.o
#3256 [20:38] <xales> ._.
#3257 [20:38] <Kealper> oh my
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#3260 [20:39] <xales> .minecraft
#3261 [20:39] <MCHelpBot> Thank you
#3262 [20:39] <xales> err
#3263 [20:39] <xales> .minecraft
#3264 [20:39] <MCHelpBot> Thank you
#3265 [20:39] <xales> there we go
#3266 [20:39] <xales> .chanoff
#3267 [20:39] <MCHelpBot> Channel commands disabled
#3268 [20:39] <AppLeNaToR> so 190Kbit upload should be enough q xales?
#3269 [20:39] <SkiingPenguins> xales is there protection so i cant go screw with it?
#3270 [20:40] <xales> AppLeNaToR: Yes
#3271 [20:40] <xales> AppLeNaToR: Most likely
#3272 [20:40] <xales> SkiingPenguins: Correct
#3273 [20:40] <SkiingPenguins> good :D
#3274 [20:40] <xales> .whoami
#3275 [20:40] <MCHelpBot> You are "xales" with flags +zo
#3276 [20:40] <SkiingPenguins> .whoami
#3277 [20:40] <Kealper> .whoami
#3278 [20:40] <SkiingPenguins> neat
#3279 [20:40] * Kealper cries
#3279 [20:41] <AppLeNaToR> hmm ok is there a bug then when the upload is going pretty high for my client (not server) its using all 190kbit which is lagging like crazy
#3280 [20:41] <xales> AppLeNaToR: Might not be enough then...
#3281 [20:41] <xales> wait, KBit or Kbyte
#3282 [20:41] <xales> err, that is..yeah
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#3284 [20:42] <AppLeNaToR> 2Mbit down 190Kbit up
#3285 [20:42] <xales> I don't think that would be enough =/
#3286 [20:42] <AppLeNaToR> for a client? :( why does the client need to send so much :(
#3287 [20:42] <xales> That really isn't that much...
#3288 [20:42] <AppLeNaToR> compared to other online games it is :)
#3289 [20:42] <xales> not really
#3290 [20:43] <SkiingPenguins> i have 80kB/s down, 50kB/s up, and i have issues with running a server
#3291 [20:43] <AppLeNaToR> well server is a different sorry Skiing
#3292 [20:43] <xales> .adminadd Kealper Kealper!Kealper@190.120.238.65 zo
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#3294 [20:43] <xales> .adminadd Kealper Kealper!Kealper@190.120.238.65 zo
#3295 [20:43] <xales> lol
#3296 [20:43] <Kealper> it hates me lol
#3297 [20:43] <xales> .addadmin Kealper Kealper!Kealper@190.120.238.65 zo
#3298 [20:43] <MCHelpBot> Adding admin Kealper
#3299 [20:43] <chesser45> !check 207.216.24.145
#3300 [20:43] <chesser45> wtf
#3301 [20:44] <xales> Kealper, .whoami
#3302 [20:44] <chesser45> i need to get a static ip.........
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#3304 [20:44] <Kealper> .whoami
#3305 [20:44] <MCHelpBot> You are "Kealper" with flags +zo
#3306 [20:44] <xales> chesser45: That isn't really feasible, in most circumstances. Try DynDNS instead
#3307 [20:44] <Kirisuto> Actually, do you mean a static internal IP chesser?
#3308 [20:44] <SkiingPenguins> i use no-ip and it works good
#3309 [20:45] <xales> .addadmin GreyVulpine GreyVulpine!GV@c-68-43-58-28.hsd1.mi.comcast.net zo
#3310 [20:45] <MCHelpBot> Adding admin GreyVulpine
#3311 [20:45] <Sirhc> Why does the server say 2011-02-04 18:44:05 [INFO] blah tried command: op blah? I am on the server op list...
#3312 [20:45] <SkiingPenguins> xales what language did you use for MCHelpBot ?
#3313 [20:45] <xales> SkiingPenguins: C
#3314 [20:45] <Sirhc> xales, What irc lib did you use?
#3315 [20:45] <chesser45> i mean external static
#3316 [20:45] <xales> None
#3317 [20:45] <AppLeNaToR> xales, ive not seen a game which needed more than 90 kBit/s upload (client only)
#3318 [20:45] <xales> though I'm using a heavily modified libircclient for this build
#3319 [20:46] <chesser45> so my compiter ip doesnt change hrly
#3320 [20:46] <Kirisuto> Oh yeah, then that's different. I'd go with Xales and use DynDNS
#3321 [20:46] <xales> chesser45: You can't get a static external at home, without paying 2x as much
#3322 [20:46] <xales> if not more
#3323 [20:46] <Kirisuto> External IP has to be bought from your ISP.
#3324 [20:46] <SkiingPenguins> mine is not static but it changes every only every few months
#3325 [20:47] <Sirhc> If I use deop nick does it remove them from the op list?
#3326 [20:48] <Kealper> yes
#3327 [20:48] <Kealper> it instantly takes effect
#3328 [20:48] <Sirhc> Ohhh.. I just figured it removed my admin rights for this connection
#3329 [20:48] <xales> It does
#3330 [20:48] <xales> only on the connection I believe
#3331 [20:48] <xales> .reload
#3332 [20:48] <MCHelpBot> Reloaded scripts
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#3335 [20:49] <xales> :<
#3336 [20:49] <Kealper> that op'd fast lol
#3337 [20:49] <xales> yup
#3338 [20:49] <Kealper> that ninja'd chanserv so hard it's not even funny :O
#3339 [20:49] <xales> this is why we use C, Kealper :>
#3340 [20:50] <Kealper> let's see how big, ugly and slow my mod_bot is
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#3342 [20:50] <Kealper> .set mode Kealper +o
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#3345 [20:50] <Kealper> >.> lol
#3346 [20:50] <xales> .reload
#3347 [20:50] <MCHelpBot> Reloaded scripts
#3348 [20:50] <xales> lol
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#3351 [20:50] <Jackson413> can i do that too?
#3352 [20:50] <Jackson413> .reload
#3353 [20:50] <xales> do what?
#3354 [20:50] <xales> lol, nope
#3355 [20:50] <chesser45> greyvulpine will you please team viewer my computer again to see if you can see why server is messed?
#3356 [20:51] <Jackson413> darn i guess not lol
#3357 [20:51] <Jackson413> lolooolol
#3358 [20:51] <Kealper> is it going to op me if i cycle? i want to see if aubot's mod_bot can ninja chanserv
#3359 [20:51] <Jackson413> i just had like 3 energy drinks in 20 mineutes
#3360 [20:51] <xales> I'll turn it off
#3361 [20:51] <Jackson413> and i sm jhuhuhuhper
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#3363 [20:51] <xales> ok, gogo Kealper
#3364 [20:51] <Kealper> and yours will automatically be way faster than mine since yours is on a nice fat connection
#3365 [20:52] <Jackson413> hyhyhyhyper
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#3368 [20:52] <Kealper> aubot?
#3369 [20:52] <xales> PWNED
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#3372 [20:52] <Kealper> !status
#3373 [20:52] <Jackson413> lmao
#3374 [20:52] <Jackson413> nice
#3375 [20:52] <Jackson413> ur racing each other?
#3376 [20:52] <xales> derp
#3377 [20:52] <Kealper> stupid module was not even loaded -.-
#3378 [20:52] <xales> time to use my bot
#3379 [20:52] <Kealper> !load mod_bot
#3380 [20:52] <xales> Jackson413: /msg mchelpbot minecraft
#3381 [20:52] <xales> :P
#3382 [20:53] <Kealper> OH that's what you're testing, nice
#3383 [20:53] <xales> derp
#3384 [20:53] <Jackson413> eh?
#3385 [20:53] <xales> Now do it, Jackson413 :P
#3386 [20:53] <endertux> So, my friend is running on server on a scarcity concept, having generated a 22x22 obsidian box around our spawn. I built an animal farm with collector but no animals are spawning. http://imagebin.org/136197 any ideas?
#3387 [20:53] <Jackson413> lololol
#3388 [20:53] <xales> gah
#3389 [20:53] <xales> blbardsfa
#3390 [20:53] <Kealper> lol
#3391 [20:53] <xales> everyone
#3392 [20:53] <xales> /msg mchelpbot minecraft
#3393 [20:54] <Jackson413> sed thank you
#3394 [20:54] <xales> do that
#3395 [20:54] <Jackson413> lolololol
#3396 [20:54] <Jackson413> did
#3397 [20:54] <Jackson413> did
#3398 [20:54] <SkiingPenguins> worked
#3399 [20:54] <xales> endertux: you too
#3400 [20:54] <Jackson413> lololololololol
#3401 [20:54] <Jackson413> idk what we are doing
#3402 [20:54] <Jackson413> but i LIKE it
#3403 [20:54] <Jackson413> hahahahahjajajaja
#3404 [20:54] <xales> endertux: There might be too many torches
#3405 [20:54] <Jackson413> so very hyper
#3406 [20:54] <xales> Jackson413: Go to #hyper
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#3408 [20:55] <Jackson413> seh
#3409 [20:55] <Jackson413> not a good channel
#3410 [20:55] <Jackson413> lololololol
#3411 [20:55] <Jackson413> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
#3412 [20:55] <Jackson413> imma go milk a cow bye now
#3413 [20:55] * xales kicked Jackson413 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: wheeee)
#3414 [20:56] <xales> so, Kealper, GreyVulpine
#3415 [20:56] <xales> do we want to try that out for abit?
#3416 [20:56] <Kealper> iono
#3417 [20:57] <Kealper> we'll have tons of people being retarded about it
#3418 [20:57] <Kealper> because they don't read the MOTD or anything sent to them :/
#3419 [20:57] <xales> then too bad for them
#3420 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> I dunno xales, seems more hassle than it's worth
#3421 [20:59] <xales> probably
#3422 [21:00] <xales> .reload
#3423 [21:00] <MCHelpBot> Reloaded scripts
#3424 [21:00] <AppLeNaToR> anybody here playing multiplayer with a rather slow internet connection?
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#3427 [21:00] <xales> there we go
#3428 [21:00] <xales> now it is togglable
#3429 [21:00] <xales> use .vprotect to toggle it, if you ever think we should use it
#3430 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Can't say I know of anybody like that here AppLeNaToR
#3431 [21:01] <xales> .reload
#3432 [21:01] <MCHelpBot> Reloaded scripts
#3433 [21:01] <xales> .vprotect
#3434 [21:01] <MCHelpBot> Enabling voice protection
#3435 [21:01] <xales> .vprotect
#3436 [21:01] <MCHelpBot> Disabling voice protection
#3437 [21:01] <AppLeNaToR> hmm because iam really wondering why 190kBit might not be enough for just a client to run. On a server i would of course understand, but what does the client need to send?
#3438 [21:02] <xales> AppLeNaToR: State, movement, chunk requests
#3439 [21:02] <xales> 190kBit is around 30 or 35 kbyte
#3440 [21:02] <xales> which is...not much
#3441 [21:02] <xales> :(
#3442 [21:02] <xales> no, not even that
#3443 [21:03] <xales> 20-25ish
#3444 [21:03] <AppLeNaToR> but that can really sum up to be more than ~20kByte / second?
#3445 [21:03] <xales> aparrantly
#3446 [21:03] <AppLeNaToR> dude there is no single game out which needs more yet
#3447 [21:03] <xales> there are plenty
#3448 [21:03] <AppLeNaToR> tell me one .)
#3449 [21:03] <xales> most FPSes
#3450 [21:03] <AppLeNaToR> nop
#3451 [21:03] <xales> MMos
#3452 [21:03] <relsqui> I just dropped a bunch of diamond and gold and redstone and eq into lava :(
#3453 [21:03] <AppLeNaToR> thats an absolute negative
#3454 [21:03] <relsqui> with me still attached :(
#3455 [21:04] <AppLeNaToR> iam playing fps without any problems. they do not need more than 5kByte/sec
#3456 [21:04] <AppLeNaToR> upload
#3457 [21:04] <AppLeNaToR> mmo's no provlem either
#3458 [21:05] <xales> burst bandwidth.
#3459 [21:05] <xales> they will certainly use that much.
#3460 [21:05] <AppLeNaToR> 64 player BF2- no problem, StarTrek Online, no prob, guildwars, no prob, COD'series, no problems either
#3461 [21:05] <xales> they don't always do that
#3462 [21:06] <AppLeNaToR> most fps games do not even burst over 5kb they stay on that rate the whole time.
#3463 [21:06] * GreyVulpine laugh
#3463 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> s
#3464 [21:07] <xales> wrong
#3465 [21:07] <xales> from the team fortress wiki, "Internet Connection; minimum 128kbps p/ sec with low latency."
#3466 [21:07] <feenyx> "for a lag-free experience"
#3467 [21:07] <feenyx> so 24KB/s
#3468 [21:07] <Kealper> alright......i'm going to load this nospam module....this could end up bad if it goes wrong....
#3469 [21:08] <Kealper> !load mod_nospam
#3470 [21:08] <Kealper> asdf
#3471 [21:08] <Kealper> !sizedebug
#3472 [21:08] <AppLeNaToR> would be 15KB/s then ;)
#3473 [21:08] <Kealper> !sizedebug
#3474 [21:08] <AppLeNaToR> and yea, tf2 runs fine here too
#3475 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Try playing Supreme commander, an RTS from 2007, with anything less than broadband
#3476 [21:08] <Kealper> someone spam some messages, see if it kicks you
#3477 [21:08] <AppLeNaToR> they recommend more bandwith as *having exactly the ammount the game needs* would be rather bad
#3478 [21:09] <AppLeNaToR> GreyVulpine, iam running on 2Mbit down, 190Kbit up and i can play any game on the marked
#3479 [21:09] <AppLeNaToR> *t
#3480 [21:09] <xales> aparrantly not Minecraft
#3481 [21:09] <SkiingPenguins> blah
#3482 [21:09] <SkiingPenguins> blah
#3483 [21:09] <SkiingPenguins> blah
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#3485 [21:09] <Kealper> minecraft is different
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#3487 [21:09] <SkiingPenguins> blah
#3488 [21:09] <SkiingPenguins> cool
#3489 [21:10] <xales> regardless of whether it runs other games for you, AppLeNaToR, it seems to not work well with Minecraft.
#3490 [21:10] <Kealper> *gasp* at autojoin though
#3491 [21:10] <SkiingPenguins> what about rejoin?
#3492 [21:10] <Kealper> !sizedebug
#3493 [21:10] <Kealper> ...
#3494 [21:10] <Kealper> !sizedebug
#3495 [21:10] <AppLeNaToR> which is kinda well bad. but okay. its still in beta.
#3496 [21:11] <AppLeNaToR> not everybody gets access to 16mbit+ connections
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#3498 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, most FPSs are coded in C/C++, they only need to send x-y-z coordinates in position and facing, as well as certain player states.
#3499 [21:12] <SkiingPenguins> i know i dont
#3500 [21:12] <Kealper> !reload mod_nospam
#3501 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> That, and their netcode is optimized for that server/client environment
#3502 [21:12] <xales> GreyVulpine: And, most FPSes don't need to constantly inform the client about environment changes, as the environment is static.
#3503 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Right
#3504 [21:12] <Kealper> 100% that
#3505 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> !calc 16*16*128
#3506 [21:12] <crickets> Answer: 32768
#3507 [21:13] <Kealper> :O
#3508 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> A chunk, in minecraft, has 32 thousand blocks
#3509 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Each with its own state and unique characteristics
#3510 [21:13] <Kealper> and if your view distance is on "far"
#3511 [21:13] <SkiingPenguins> can chunk loading from server limit fps?
#3512 [21:13] <Kealper> !calc 32768 * 5400
#3513 [21:13] <crickets> Answer: 176947200
#3514 [21:13] <Kealper> you have a ton of individual blocks being updated
#3515 [21:14] <xales> all at once
#3516 [21:14] <AppLeNaToR> well the loading FROm the server okay. i understand if it gets more to load all the stuff arround you. but does my client need to send all that data back?
#3517 [21:14] <Kealper> the client has to send changes back to the server
#3518 [21:14] <AppLeNaToR> but i can change 1 box /0.5 seconds
#3519 [21:14] <xales> Doesn't matter
#3520 [21:15] <xales> It still sends changes, even if you haven't changed anything
#3521 [21:15] <Kealper> i recently made a proxy that showed me the data going between the two....the ammount of map update data that the two send eachother is amazing o.o
#3522 [21:15] <AppLeNaToR> well that sounds pretty bad q xales
#3523 [21:15] <AppLeNaToR> sending stuff even if nothing is changed. for what?
#3524 [21:15] <xales> Would you prefer it didn't work at all?
#3525 [21:15] <Kealper> lighting updates and stuff
#3526 [21:15] <AppLeNaToR> would be no difference for me :D
#3527 [21:15] <xales> That is the way it has to be
#3528 [21:16] <xales> Or it wouldn't function properly
#3529 [21:16] <AppLeNaToR> why?
#3530 [21:16] <xales> This is how all games work
#3531 [21:16] <xales> they just don't have massive dynamic worlds
#3532 [21:16] <AppLeNaToR> *player did not change box1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ?
#3533 [21:16] <xales> if you really want to know why, I suggest picking up a book on network programming.
#3534 [21:16] <Kealper> <crickets> Answer: 176947200
#3535 [21:17] * Kealper can't stress that massive number enough
#3535 [21:17] <xales> Assume each block has 4 bytes representing items on it, mobs on it, and state. Another 4 bytes representing lighting
#3536 [21:17] <xales> !calc 176947200 * 8
#3537 [21:17] <crickets> Answer: 1415577600
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#3539 [21:17] <xales> that is a very large number
#3540 [21:17] <Kealper> it does have 4 bytes of storage per block, iirc lol
#3541 [21:18] <AppLeNaToR> well if that is going to be optimized fine. but if it would stay like this it would be a shame
#3542 [21:18] <xales> It can't be optimized any further
#3543 [21:18] <xales> That is how it has to work
#3544 [21:18] <xales> without significantly changing the way the game functions
#3545 [21:18] <SkiingPenguins> guess i wont be playing online then
#3546 [21:19] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: you could test it out on my server if you wanted to see if you can play it alright lol
#3547 [21:19] <AppLeNaToR> i still dont get why my client has to send the information about the light to the server
#3548 [21:19] <SkiingPenguins> i already tested it
#3549 [21:19] <AppLeNaToR> why doesnt the server knows it and sends the information to the client?
#3550 [21:19] <SkiingPenguins> my client has to sit in one spot and not move and then the fps get better after it
#3551 [21:19] <SkiingPenguins> "loads"
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#3553 [21:20] <Kealper> AppLeNaToR: the client doesn't send lighting data to the server, but it's the way TCP works that makes it send data back to the server for server to client updates
#3554 [21:20] <Kealper> every time the server sends you a packet of data, your client has to respond with a "yeah, i got that packet and it's correct!"
#3555 [21:21] <AppLeNaToR> but why is the receiving speed arround 0.6 times smaller than transmitting?
#3556 [21:21] <Kealper> eh?
#3557 [21:21] <AppLeNaToR> yep...
#3558 [21:21] <AppLeNaToR> outgoing 15KB/s
#3559 [21:21] * Kealper didn't understand the question
#3559 [21:21] <AppLeNaToR> incoming 8KB/s
#3560 [21:22] <Kealper> torrenting?
#3561 [21:22] <AppLeNaToR> nop
#3562 [21:22] <AppLeNaToR> nothing
#3563 [21:22] <AppLeNaToR> except for irc
#3564 [21:22] <Kealper> although, what are those stats coming from?
#3565 [21:22] <Kealper> !sizedebug
#3566 [21:22] <AppLeNaToR> networkmeter
#3567 [21:22] <Kealper> !sizedebug
#3568 [21:23] <xales> !boom
#3569 [21:23] <Kealper> awesome, it appears to be working and keeping it's garbage down
#3570 [21:23] <Kealper> !sizedebug
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#3572 [21:23] <Jackson413> lol
#3573 [21:23] <Kealper> Jackson413: spam crap really fast
#3574 [21:24] <SkiingPenguins> can i?
#3575 [21:24] <crickets> Kealper sucks
#3576 [21:24] <crickets> Kealper sucks
#3577 [21:24] <crickets> Kealper sucks
#3578 [21:24] * AuBot kicked crickets from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel.)
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#3580 [21:24] <crickets> Kealper sucks
#3581 [21:24] * AuBot kicked crickets from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel.)
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#3583 [21:24] <Kealper> lol
#3584 [21:24] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#3585 [21:24] <Jackson413> i got booted while milking my cow. i have a couple new bruises thanks to `ol bessie.
#3586 [21:25] <Kealper> impressive spam/kick/spam/kick/join time though
#3587 [21:25] <Jackson413> can i?
#3588 [21:25] <SkiingPenguins> Jackson413 i didnt know your cow wore boots
#3589 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> May want to add a +b on a 2nd or 3rd join
#3590 [21:25] <Jackson413> lolololololol
#3591 [21:25] <Jackson413> +b?
#3592 [21:25] <Jackson413> what?
#3593 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> ban
#3594 [21:25] <AppLeNaToR> ok now it changed to night, upload went up to 150KB/s for 5 seconds. now its back to 16KB/s TX, 8KB/s RX. i just don't get it
#3595 [21:25] <Kealper> yeah, i'll add that
#3596 [21:26] <xales> AppLeNaToR: Once again. It is called "Using more depending on how much is needed"
#3597 [21:26] <Jackson413> how to get unbanned from a channel?
#3598 [21:26] <xales> if you don't understand, go buy a book on TCP and network programming, and read them in their entirety
#3599 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - /msg a channel's op
#3600 [21:26] <Jackson413> ah ok
#3601 [21:26] <AppLeNaToR> again. why does it need to send more data then its even receiving
#3602 [21:27] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> someones getting touchy
#3603 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> AppLeNaToR - It's called TCP overhead, as well as giving constant position updates, even when you're not moving
#3604 [21:27] <Kealper> he just wants to QQ and we're bored enough to respond
#3605 [21:27] <xales> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol
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#3607 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Just love it when people come on, "Game A/B works fine, but this doesn't! My Computer is R uber."
#3608 [21:29] <AppLeNaToR> yep kaelper. thanks for that...
#3609 [21:29] <miniKealper> woot woot
#3610 [21:29] <miniKealper> im jackson
#3611 [21:29] <miniKealper> but better
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#3613 [21:29] <Kealper> are you one-eighth the size of me?
#3614 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Kealper's mini-me?
#3615 [21:29] <miniKealper> .99 acutally
#3616 [21:30] <miniKealper> lol YeaH!
#3617 [21:30] <AppLeNaToR> grey, i did not say a single time
#3618 [21:30] <kiyoukan> might any one here be able to help me with a java installation problem?
#3619 [21:30] <miniKealper> woot woot
#3620 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> kiyoukan - What about it?
#3621 [21:31] <miniKealper> am i lagging?
#3622 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#3623 [21:31] <crickets> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.24 Seconds.
#3624 [21:31] <miniKealper> nope
#3625 [21:31] <miniKealper> hmm
#3626 [21:31] <miniKealper> i tried to change my nick but it wouldnt let med
#3627 [21:31] <miniKealper> me
#3628 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Try /part ing #minecraft
#3629 [21:31] <kiyoukan> grey pm
#3630 [21:31] <miniKealper> what does that mean?
#3631 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> /part #minecraft
#3632 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. you're not there.
#3633 [21:32] <miniKealper> what does that do?
#3634 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Leave any channels with +M in them
#3635 [21:32] <Jacklper> ah here we go
#3636 [21:32] <Jacklper> lol
#3637 [21:32] <Kealper> Jacklper lol
#3638 [21:32] <Jacklper> i know you love me
#3639 [21:32] <Jacklper> lol
#3640 [21:32] <kiyoukan> GreyVulpine you in the pm?
#3641 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. kiyoukan, you can paste the stuff in here. No need to PM
#3642 [21:32] <kiyoukan> okay.
#3643 [21:33] <kiyoukan> root@kiyoukan:~# sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following i
#3644 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> There's people that understand *nix and java better than I do
#3645 [21:33] <Jacklper> i feel spammy
#3646 [21:33] <Jacklper> brb
#3647 [21:33] * GreyVulpine pokes xales
#3647 [21:33] <xales> ?
#3648 [21:33] * GreyVulpine points
#3648 [21:33] <Jacklper> need to go spam i quake channel
#3649 [21:33] <xales> ugg
#3650 [21:33] <xales> uhh*
#3651 [21:33] <xales> try sudo apt-get aptitude
#3652 [21:33] <xales> then replace apt-get in that command with aptitude
#3653 [21:33] <xales> err, apt-get install aptitude
#3654 [21:34] <xales> "sudo apt-get install aptitude"
#3655 [21:34] <Jacklper> ok i got some people pissed back
#3656 [21:34] <Jacklper> what does that mean?
#3657 [21:34] <xales> "sudo aptitude install (whatever)"
#3658 [21:34] <Jacklper> is that a command?
#3659 [21:34] <kiyoukan> root@kiyoukan:~# sudo apt-get install aptitude Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Package aptitude is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package aptitude has no installation candidate
#3660 [21:35] <Jacklper> english?
#3661 [21:35] <Jacklper> well grind me a billy goat and call me fred
#3662 [21:35] <SkiingPenguins> sudo apt-get update ?
#3663 [21:35] <xales> kiyoukan: err...try "sudo apt-get update"
#3664 [21:35] <Jacklper> what does that mean?~?~?~?
#3665 [21:35] <xales> but uhh
#3666 [21:35] <xales> what is that running on, how did you get Debian/Ubuntu on there...describe the host to me
#3667 [21:35] <Jacklper> ./sudo isnt a command
#3668 [21:36] <xales> ...
#3669 [21:36] <kiyoukan> root@kiyoukan:~# sudo apt-get update Hit http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release.gpg Hit http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security Release.gpg Get:1 http://packages.medibuntu.org lucid Release.gpg [197B] Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-proposed Release.gpg Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates Release.gpg Hit http://archive.canonical.com l
#3670 [21:36] <kiyoukan> hmm it cut me off brb going to paste bin
#3671 [21:36] <xales> don't bother
#3672 [21:36] <xales> just try the other command now
#3673 [21:36] <Jacklper> i need to go milk my cow
#3674 [21:36] <Jacklper> brb
#3675 [21:37] <kiyoukan> http://pastebin.com/rBEhLSEU
#3676 [21:37] <Jacklper> no pun intended
#3677 [21:37] <Jackson413> woot
#3678 [21:37] <kiyoukan> also i am running Ubuntu 9.10 64-BIT
#3679 [21:38] <kiyoukan> is the 64bit the problem?
#3680 [21:38] <xales> is this on a VPS?
#3681 [21:38] <kiyoukan> yes
#3682 [21:38] <Jackson413> beep beep i am a virus destoryer beep beep
#3683 [21:38] <kiyoukan> 123ss
#3684 [21:38] <Jackson413> brb
#3685 [21:38] <xales> Try upgrading to ubuntu 10
#3686 [21:38] <kiyoukan> ... how?
#3687 [21:38] * xales kicked Jackson413 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: This is a help channel, if you don't need help, I don't need to read the extra lines)
#3688 [21:38] <xales> Via your VPS provider
#3689 [21:38] <xales> they probably have a control panel
#3690 [21:38] <xales> to reinstall or something
#3691 [21:39] <kiyoukan> so i have to submit a ticket for reinstalling to 10
#3692 [21:39] <xales> ._.
#3693 [21:39] <xales> that is pretty bad customer support
#3694 [21:39] <xales> all the ones I've used do it in 10 minutes automatically
#3695 [21:39] <kiyoukan> you ever used 123systems solutions?
#3696 [21:39] <xales> guess not
#3697 [21:40] <kiyoukan> i heard they were decent and only 10$ a month for 1gig
#3698 [21:40] <kiyoukan> so i am trying it out
#3699 [21:40] <kiyoukan> do i want 32 or 64?
#3700 [21:40] <kiyoukan> for minecraft?
#3701 [21:41] <xales> how much ram does the VPS have
#3702 [21:41] <kiyoukan> 1gig
#3703 [21:41] <xales> then 32
#3704 [21:41] <kiyoukan> but do i want 32 or 64 bit?
#3705 [21:42] <kiyoukan> it a small server for me and my 4 friends
#3706 [21:42] <kiyoukan> so i think 1 gig should be enough
#3707 [21:42] <kiyoukan> k thanks
#3708 [21:42] <xales> if you only have 1gb ram, 64bit just adds unneeded overhead
#3709 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> 1 gig.. of monthly bandwidth?
#3710 [21:43] <kiyoukan> 350gig monthly
#3711 [21:44] <SkiingPenguins> i dont even use that for my whole house
#3712 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> You haven't run a minecraft server..
#3713 [21:44] <kiyoukan> and burst up to 2 gig ram not sure how long a burst is...
#3714 [21:44] <kiyoukan> now i will wait for an email from the ticket to hopefully have it set to the new os
#3715 [21:45] <kiyoukan> also this is the guide i am using to setup my server http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=136431&p=2403420
#3716 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> What...? Why?
#3717 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> er
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#3719 [21:46] <kiyoukan> is it a bad guide?
#3720 [21:46] <kiyoukan> or is there a better one?
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#3723 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> I guess that guide's okay...
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#3725 [21:48] * GreyVulpine winces at chmod 777 minecraft_server.jar
#3725 [21:48] <kiyoukan> this one better? http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=23122
#3726 [21:48] <xales> It really isn't that hard
#3727 [21:48] <xales> just java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#3728 [21:48] <xales> is really all you need to do
#3729 [21:49] <kiyoukan> well my problems so far have been just getting java to run
#3730 [21:49] <kiyoukan> i dont doubt that minecraft will be any problem. it will be interesting trying to install my mods tho...
#3731 [21:50] <xales> That part isn't Minecraft specific
#3732 [21:50] <xales> you can find much better guides on the Ubuntu Wiki
#3733 [21:50] <kiyoukan> yeah. just the whole map file being 10s of folders is going to be interesting
#3734 [21:50] <kiyoukan> 100s
#3735 [21:50] <xales> thousands
#3736 [21:50] <xolotl> do I hear MILLIONS?
#3737 [21:51] <kiyoukan> yeah i have been running my server on my home machine and i think for 10$ a month this will be better and faster
#3738 [21:53] <kiyoukan> this is where skype would be great. is there a minecraft skype group?
#3739 [21:55] <Kealper> not that i'm aware of
#3740 [21:55] <kiyoukan> there should be
#3741 [21:55] <kiyoukan> my room mate is going to die, this is the 11 time hes played electro gypsy...
#3742 [21:55] <Kealper> O.o
#3743 [21:55] <kiyoukan> they are slow on their tickets...
#3744 [21:56] <Kealper> ok, i'll be surprized if this module even compiles....
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#3746 [21:56] <kiyoukan> new mod?
#3747 [21:56] <Kealper> amazing
#3748 [21:56] <lemon-rev> wtf, minecraft i was playing it just fine in singleplayer the next black screen wtf
#3749 [21:56] <Kealper> kiyoukan: module for my bot
#3750 [21:57] <Kealper> !reload mod_nospam
#3751 [21:57] <Kealper> ok....
#3752 [21:57] <kiyoukan> ah
#3753 [21:57] <Kealper> someone spam...if you're not unbanned in 5 sec then damnit, and i'll clear it :P
#3754 [21:57] <crickets> Kealper sucks
#3755 [21:57] <crickets> Kealper sucks
#3756 [21:57] <crickets> Kealper sucks
#3757 [21:57] * AuBot kicked crickets from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel.)
#3758 [21:58] <Kealper> good enough
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#3761 [21:59] <kiyoukan> god they are slow what am i going to wait a week for my support tickts?
#3762 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Yikes
#3763 [22:00] <Kealper> !sizedebug
#3764 [22:00] <MCHelpBot> kealper and crickets suck
#3765 [22:00] <MCHelpBot> kealper and crickets suck
#3766 [22:00] <MCHelpBot> kealper and crickets suck
#3767 [22:00] <MCHelpBot> kealper and crickets suck
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#3770 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. 2TB seagate drive on sale at newegg for 85 bucks
#3771 [22:01] <Kealper> O.o
#3772 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> There's a review on there.. "Survived a washing machine and dryer"
#3773 [22:01] <Kealper> dang, if only i had cash lol
#3774 [22:01] <Kealper> wow lol
#3775 [22:01] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3775 [22:01] <xales> oh, by the way
#3776 [22:01] <xales> how 2 suicide: put block of gravel above you
#3777 [22:01] <Iguana> no
#3778 [22:01] <xales> then do it again
#3779 [22:01] <xales> and don't move
#3780 [22:01] <xales> for the people who ask how to kill selves in ssp
#3781 [22:02] <Kealper> is that the voice of experience that i hear?
#3782 [22:03] <xales> mebbe
#3783 [22:03] <relsqui> welp, I started a farm and built a mineshaft under my house that leads to bedrock. now what.
#3784 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Automated house, wired in redstone, complete with doorbell
#3785 [22:04] <Kealper> mine the crap out of the mineshaft
#3786 [22:04] <relsqui> oh yeah, I haven't played with redstone very much yet
#3787 [22:05] <relsqui> I forget, do buttons work in SMP?
#3788 [22:05] <xales> Everything works
#3789 [22:05] <xales> related to redstone
#3790 [22:06] <relsqui> I thought levers don't?
#3791 [22:06] <xales> they don't animate properly, but they work
#3792 [22:06] <relsqui> oh, interesting
#3793 [22:06] <kiyoukan> it sucks tnhat sponge no work..
#3794 [22:07] <mbentley> made a script that checks whether i am online or not in idlerpg :D this one was a bit of a pain compared to the other idlerpg i am in
#3795 [22:07] <Arkose> if you're lucky maybe they will come back like dyes :)
#3796 [22:08] <kiyoukan> i hope they killed my dreams of a water world not made via map editor
#3797 [22:08] <xales> you can do it without a map editor
#3798 [22:08] <xales> use wood
#3799 [22:09] <xales> surround wood in glass
#3800 [22:09] <xales> burn wood
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#3802 [22:09] <xales> profit
#3803 [22:09] <Arkose> cry when hundreds of isolated logs burn forever
#3804 [22:09] <relsqui> heh
#3805 [22:09] <Kealper> lol
#3806 [22:09] <relsqui> okay, I keep hearing that spiders aren't aggressive in daylight
#3807 [22:09] <Trapdoor> sup, is there a server query port for minecraft? i'd like to query my server for players that are on a server
#3808 [22:09] <Arkose> these aboveground lava pools keep causing fires on my worlds D:
#3809 [22:09] <relsqui> but every time I step out of my house I get jumped by one
#3810 [22:09] <kiyoukan> yeah i have a forest like that.
#3811 [22:10] <Arkose> relsqui: if they are aggroed during the night they will stay aggroed.
#3812 [22:10] <Arkose> unless you die or whatever
#3813 [22:10] <Arkose> also if they are in sufficient darkness that counts as nighttime even if it's outside :P
#3814 [22:11] <relsqui> no darkness
#3815 [22:11] <relsqui> and they weren't aggroed by any player, I'm the only one on and I was inside all night
#3816 [22:11] <Kealper> xales: how long did aubot wait before lifting the bans according to your timestamps?
#3817 [22:12] <relsqui> can grass grow under a fence, if the fence is placed on bare earth?
#3818 [22:12] <Arkose> IIRC spiders can now sort of see you through walls or something to aid their new climbing ability
#3819 [22:12] <xales> Kealper: 6 seconds
#3820 [22:12] <Trapdoor> fuck the spiders' climbing ability
#3821 [22:13] <Kealper> ok, thanks, just making sure it was correct according to other people's time too
#3822 [22:14] <Kealper> !reload mod_nospam
#3823 [22:15] <Kealper> ok, that module is done, and it tells the person that their ban will be lifted in however many seconds it is set to wait before unbanning
#3824 [22:15] <Kealper> in the kick reason, that is
#3825 [22:15] <SkiingPenguins> so if i spam it kicks me?
#3826 [22:15] <Arkose> that's the idea yes
#3827 [22:16] <Kealper> right now if you send more than 3 messages in 2 sec
#3828 [22:16] <SkiingPenguins> a
#3829 [22:16] <SkiingPenguins> b
#3830 [22:16] <SkiingPenguins> c
#3831 [22:16] * AuBot kicked SkiingPenguins from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
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#3833 [22:16] <SkiingPenguins> alright cool :D
#3834 [22:18] <relsqui> oh, I remember what I was gonna do. take a little boat and go visit the island I can see over there
#3835 [22:18] <Kealper> my only worry is if the network lags....lol
#3836 [22:19] <Arkose> and if it does? A fitting punishment. ;)
#3837 [22:19] <AndrewPH> j
#3838 [22:19] <AndrewPH> j
#3839 [22:19] <AndrewPH> j
#3840 [22:19] * AuBot kicked AndrewPH from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
#3841 [22:19] <Kealper> >.>
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#3843 [22:19] <AndrewPH> did I do it right?
#3844 [22:19] <Arkose> everyone wants to see if it's working, apparently
#3845 [22:19] <Kealper> lol
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#3847 [22:19] <Sqozza> It is indeed working.
#3848 [22:19] <Sqozza> Seriously.
#3849 [22:19] <Sqozza> If it kicks me for this
#3850 [22:19] <Sqozza> I will rage
#3851 [22:19] <Sqozza> Oh, it doesn't
#3852 [22:19] <Sqozza> Cool
#3853 [22:19] * Sqozza hugs AuBot
#3853 [22:20] <Kealper> lol
#3854 [22:21] <relsqui> I guess I could also finish mining out the cavern we found
#3855 [22:21] <relsqui> I'm still kind of depressed about that
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#3857 [22:21] <relsqui> one of the richest caverns I've ever seen--at least three diamond deposits, a few gold, tons of redstone, some lapis--
#3858 [22:21] <relsqui> and I fell into lava after picking up most of it :(
#3859 [22:21] <Sqozza> Mine wins.
#3860 [22:21] <Sqozza> 16 diamonds.
#3861 [22:21] <Sqozza> 9 blocks worth of lapis.
#3862 [22:21] <relsqui> we might've had that many
#3863 [22:22] <relsqui> by "deposits" I mean groups of blocks
#3864 [22:22] <relsqui> I didn't see how many I was carrying when I fell, but it was a good handful
#3865 [22:22] <Akulath> Heya... I've setup a server on my computer... I can't destroy any blocks?
#3866 [22:22] <Sqozza> Move away from spawbn
#3867 [22:22] <Sqozza> spawn*
#3868 [22:22] <Akulath> Thats it?
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#3870 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3871 [22:23] <bradk> @greyvulpine can u please team viewer me again?
#3872 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3873 [22:23] <bradk> sorry im on my laptop its chesser45
#3874 [22:23] <bradk> lol
#3875 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Now?
#3876 [22:23] <bradk> if ur no doing things
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#3878 [22:24] <bradk> not
#3879 [22:24] <xales> Kealper
#3880 [22:24] <xales> I beat AuBot
#3881 [22:24] <xales> j
#3882 [22:24] <xales> j
#3883 [22:24] <xales> j
#3884 [22:24] <xales> j
#3885 [22:24] * AuBot kicked xales from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
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#3887 [22:24] <xales> fail
#3888 [22:24] <Kealper> lol
#3889 [22:25] <Kealper> was that with a script or just you?
#3890 [22:25] <xales> j
#3891 [22:25] <xales> j
#3892 [22:25] <xales> j
#3893 [22:25] <xales> j
#3894 [22:25] * AuBot kicked xales from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
#3895 [22:25] <crickets> Kealper Sucks; /me Kealper Sucks
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#3897 [22:25] <xales> wow
#3898 [22:25] <xales> I can't even get the autorejoin thing to work
#3899 [22:25] <xales> lol!
#3900 [22:26] <bradk> ??
#3901 [22:26] <Kealper> huh?
#3902 [22:26] <Kealper> what autorejoin thing? lol
#3903 [22:26] <xales> I turned on an autorejoin script
#3904 [22:26] <xales> that doesn't work
#3905 [22:26] <xales> lolwat
#3906 [22:26] <Kealper> because it bans for 5 sec? lol
#3907 [22:26] <xales> I banexempted myself
#3908 [22:26] <Kealper> oh lol
#3909 [22:27] <xales> so, I'm connected to aperture
#3910 [22:27] <xales> but apocalypse noticed me when I couldn't send to channel
#3911 [22:27] <xales> desynch for the win
#3912 [22:27] <Kealper> xD
#3913 [22:27] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> what
#3914 [22:27] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> isnt that just +e
#3915 [22:27] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> oh
#3916 [22:27] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> espernet sucks D:
#3917 [22:27] <xales> ?
#3918 [22:27] <xales> 22:27:46 -!- #MineCraftHelp: ban exception *!*@darksigns.net [by xales!xales@darksigns.net, 495 secs ago]
#3919 [22:28] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> no on coldront you just do +e hotmask.blah
#3920 [22:28] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> and its a ban exemption
#3921 [22:28] <xales> that is what I did
#3922 [22:28] <xales> :P
#3923 [22:28] <xales> +e is in RFC20whatever
#3924 [22:28] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> yea
#3925 [22:28] <xales> it would be criminal for an ircd to not honor it
#3926 [22:28] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> oh ok there it is
#3927 [22:28] <Kealper> is there a chanserv option to add people to an autoexempt thing?
#3928 [22:28] <xales> nope
#3929 [22:29] <Kealper> hmm
#3930 [22:29] <xales> oh, look at aubot's log
#3931 [22:29] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> is @ the highest thing on esper?
#3932 [22:29] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> that also sucks
#3933 [22:29] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> D:
#3934 [22:29] <xales> from the day that services went down
#3935 [22:29] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> and there are no hops?
#3936 [22:29] <xales> do you half trust someone?
#3937 [22:29] <Kealper> uhh.....depends?
#3938 [22:29] <Kealper> why?
#3939 [22:29] <xales> esphyb supports hops, but esper intentionally doesn't use it
#3940 [22:29] <xales> it is in the documentation, but it doesn't work
#3941 [22:29] <Kealper> xales: what day?
#3942 [22:30] <xales> uhh, yesterday I think
#3943 [22:30] <SinZ> xales: why doesn't it use admins or hop
#3944 [22:30] <xales> aubot tried to join #xales like 999999999999 times
#3945 [22:30] <xales> and chanserv kept kicking
#3946 [22:30] <xales> but didn't ban for some reason
#3947 [22:30] <xales> until services was fully restored
#3948 [22:30] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> yea coldfront goes regular,+,%,@,&,~
#3949 [22:30] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> which is nice
#3950 [22:30] <xales> SinZ: There is really no need for it
#3951 [22:30] <SinZ> its perrty the dif colours =D
#3952 [22:30] <xales> The distinction between level is made on ChanServ
#3953 [22:30] <Kealper> why is aubot in #xales? lol
#3954 [22:30] * crickets Kealper Sucks
#3954 [22:30] <xales> Kealper: you set it to go in there, not sure why
#3955 [22:30] * crickets Kealper Sucks
#3955 [22:30] * crickets Kealper Sucks
#3955 [22:30] * crickets Kealper Sucks
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#3956 [22:31] <xales> fail
#3957 [22:31] <Kealper> oh....
#3958 [22:31] <Kealper> .part #xales
#3959 [22:31] <xales> LOL
#3960 [22:31] <xales> ERROR 442: apocalypse.esper.net: MCHelpBot #xales You're not on that channel
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#3962 [22:31] <Kealper> lol
#3963 [22:32] <xales> also SinZ, you got owned
#3964 [22:32] <Kealper> two bots with the same commands ftw?!
#3965 [22:32] <SinZ> xales, are you an ircop?
#3966 [22:32] <xales> Ask yourself. Am I in #dragonweyr, or opered?
#3967 [22:32] <xales> No
#3968 [22:32] <xales> therefor
#3969 [22:32] <xales> No
#3970 [22:32] * AuBot kicked xales from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
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#3972 [22:32] * GreyVulpine snerks
#3972 [22:32] <SinZ> lol
#3973 [22:32] <xales> Bot must not do that to people with op
#3974 [22:32] <xales> :<
#3975 [22:33] * xales kicked AuBot from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Douche)
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#3977 [22:33] <SinZ> xales, your autorejoin worked =D
#3978 [22:33] <xales> SinZ: That was manual
#3979 [22:33] <Kealper> uhh.....i can add a whitelist option to it
#3980 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> bradk - /msg me your TV info
#3981 [22:34] <xales> SinZ: Why did you ask? :P
#3982 [22:34] <SinZ> <xales> ERROR 442: apocalypse.esper.net: MCHelpBot #xales You're not on that channel
#3983 [22:34] <xales> what about that?
#3984 [22:35] <SinZ> ehh nvm =S
#3985 [22:35] <xales> :P
#3986 [22:35] <xales> I bet I have more umodes than you though
#3987 [22:35] <xales> @xales[+irwz]
#3988 [22:35] <xales> flea has like, all of them set
#3989 [22:35] <xales> :P
#3990 [22:35] <SinZ> howto check
#3991 [22:35] <xales> your user mode?
#3992 [22:35] <SinZ> yeh
#3993 [22:35] <xales> uhh, depends on client
#3994 [22:36] <xales> but you are probably just +ir
#3995 [22:36] <Kealper> i'm just +ir lol
#3996 [22:36] <relsqui> oh! no, I know what I should do
#3997 [22:36] <xales> Kealper: /mode kealper +w
#3998 [22:36] <xales> :P
#3999 [22:36] <relsqui> dig the rest of the way up from this shaft
#4000 [22:36] <Kealper> bah
#4001 [22:36] <relsqui> and shine sunlight on bedrock ^_^
#4002 [22:36] * GreyVulpine has +icfgkmnoswCGWcF on another network
#4002 [22:36] <Kealper> ok, me, you, and grey are on it's exempt list
#4003 [22:36] <SinZ> aww, i cant have +z on myself
#4004 [22:36] <xales> you could
#4005 [22:37] <xales> if you were cool enough
#4006 [22:37] <xales> :)
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#4008 [22:37] <SinZ> howto get it =D
#4009 [22:37] <xales> +z = ssl
#4010 [22:37] <SinZ> ooh right
#4011 [22:37] <SinZ> il play with my bouncer settings later
#4012 [22:37] <Caleo> soo, black screen crashes
#4013 [22:37] <xales> Caleo: when?
#4014 [22:37] <SinZ> try browser client
#4015 [22:37] <Caleo> keep getting them in the standalone version
#4016 [22:37] <Kealper> xales: any others who should be exempt from the kicks?
#4017 [22:38] <Caleo> xales: randomly pretty much, sometimes I'll be ok for an hour
#4018 [22:38] <Caleo> sometimes I'll crash like 3 times in 2 minutes
#4019 [22:38] <xales> Kealper: All of our vops?
#4020 [22:38] <SinZ> and aops
#4021 [22:38] <xales> Caleo: Specs of computer?
#4022 [22:38] <xales> Kealper: Probably EmpiresBane too
#4023 [22:38] <Caleo> i5 750 @ 3.5ghz, 8GB of ram an a GTX460
#4024 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Just, if (nick isop or isvoiced), ignore?
#4025 [22:39] <xales> Try turning view distance down, Caleo
#4026 [22:39] <Kealper> can't do that
#4027 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#4028 [22:39] <Kealper> that's msl, mirc is keeping track of the user modes
#4029 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> I know
#4030 [22:39] <Caleo> xales: Yeah, I read about that... haven't played much with view distance turned down yet but I crashed right after I turned it down not long ago
#4031 [22:40] <Kealper> i don't feel like making something parse the userlist and keep track of mode changes :/
#4032 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, lame
#4033 [22:40] <Kealper> the names packets for irc are weird to parse
#4034 [22:42] <relsqui> I wonder if the water I can hear in this cave is the same as the water I've already found
#4035 [22:43] * relsqui climbs up on some gravel and listens
#4035 [22:43] <relsqui> ...
#4036 [22:44] <relsqui> it would probably be pretty stupid to dig up and see, wouldn't it
#4037 [22:44] <Kealper> ok, that was a lot of names to add
#4038 [22:44] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#4039 [22:45] <Kealper> i just realized that i reloaded the wrong module....lol
#4040 [22:46] <Kealper> !reload mod_nospam
#4041 [22:46] <Kealper> memory typing :/
#4042 [22:46] <xales> !reload mod_kealper
#4043 [22:46] <relsqui> wherever this water is, there's a lot of it
#4044 [22:46] <relsqui> sorry, I don't *actually* have to narrate my current dig :)
#4045 [22:47] <xales> !reload mod_core
#4046 [22:47] <xales> :(
#4047 [22:47] <relsqui> found it!
#4048 [22:47] <Kealper> it's not THAT modular lol
#4049 [22:48] <Kealper> although it is pretty useless if all modules are unloaded
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#4054 [23:31] <chesser45> fun stuff today ........any ideas why my servers chunks have messed up on parts of the map?
#4055 [23:31] <xales> "messed up
#4056 [23:31] <xales> "?
#4057 [23:31] <chesser45> like in some spots there are mountains like were my house was
#4058 [23:31] <relsqui> o_O
#4059 [23:32] <chesser45> and others there is holes to the otherside
#4060 [23:32] <xales> that is...bad?
#4061 [23:32] <xales> it sounds like the map got corrupted or another map merged into it some how
#4062 [23:32] <chesser45> how would i fix that?
#4063 [23:32] <chesser45> if its just merged
#4064 [23:32] <xales> Try restarting the server
#4065 [23:32] <xales> but there is really no fix but to restore a backup
#4066 [23:32] <chesser45> well that doesnt work
#4067 [23:32] <chesser45> sorry
#4068 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Did you intentionally merge two maps?
#4069 [23:33] <chesser45> nope
#4070 [23:33] <chesser45> id be insane to do that
#4071 [23:33] <xales> any mods?
#4072 [23:33] <chesser45> nope
#4073 [23:33] <xales> running Windows?
#4074 [23:33] <chesser45> yea
#4075 [23:33] <chesser45> vista
#4076 [23:33] <chesser45> 32bit
#4077 [23:33] <xales> Windows has...serious issues with running servers...especially Vista
#4078 [23:34] <chesser45> 2g 2.8
#4079 [23:34] <xales> but I don't see it doing that
#4080 [23:34] <xales> ...at least not often
#4081 [23:34] <chesser45> how do i load a map from an level_old .dat
#4082 [23:34] <chesser45> then
#4083 [23:34] <chesser45> would that work
#4084 [23:35] <xales> probably not, but you could try it
#4085 [23:35] <chesser45> ok
#4086 [23:35] <xales> just rename the level.dat to something else, and the level_old.dat to level.dat
#4087 [23:35] <chesser45> if i was to do a dedicated server in my house what specs should i have
#4088 [23:35] <chesser45> dfor like a 20 person server
#4089 [23:36] <chesser45> max
#4090 [23:36] <xales> uhh
#4091 [23:36] <xales> you don't want to do it in your house, if you are going to go to that trouble
#4092 [23:36] <xales> hosting anything at home = almost always a bad idea
#4093 [23:37] <chesser45> why exactly?
#4094 [23:37] <chesser45> besides ip changes
#4095 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Not big enough of a pipe for networking, not a dedicated server, uptime, backups, dedicated support staff..
#4096 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Should I go on?
#4097 [23:38] <xales> also, many ISPs forbit it outright
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#4099 [23:39] <xales> if you use enough traffic, they will shut down your connection
#4100 [23:39] <xales> generate*
#4101 [23:39] <chesser45> what they dont notice wont hurt them?
#4102 [23:39] <xales> the problem is, when they do notice
#4103 [23:39] <xales> they can fine you, disconnect your service..
#4104 [23:39] <randomuser> I'm attempting to set up a MineOS VM; the client quickly stopped changing the environment (blocks reappear, cant place from inventory but can discard) and the server console complains about being overloaded, though it clearly is not
#4105 [23:39] <chesser45> then what is the cheapest server i could do for this
#4106 [23:39] <xales> randomuser: How often does it complain?
#4107 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> randomuser - Did you move away from spawn?
#4108 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> And the overloaded server message is normal
#4109 [23:40] <xales> Normal as long as it isn't every second
#4110 [23:40] <randomuser> i gathered that about the message. I moved not far from the spawn, within drawing distance, anyway
#4111 [23:41] <randomuser> and it doesnt complain often
#4112 [23:41] <xales> Hold F3 in the client - is your FPS low?
#4113 [23:41] <xales> low = under 30
#4114 [23:41] <randomuser> no
#4115 [23:41] <randomuser> it fluctuates; but mostly over 150
#4116 [23:42] <randomuser> i appreciate the attention, but you'll have to excuse me while i make us dinner
#4117 [23:42] <xales> try moving further from spawn?
#4118 [23:42] <xales> ok
#4119 [23:42] <randomuser> brb
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#4121 [23:42] <Maxite> Hello.
#4122 [23:42] <xales> Hi
#4123 [23:42] <chesser45> waht would be the cheapest possible option for a server for a small gropu of pl
#4124 [23:43] <chesser45> group of people
#4125 [23:43] <xales> chesser45: http://allgamer.net/ probably
#4126 [23:43] <xales> how many people?
#4127 [23:43] <xales> err
#4128 [23:43] <Maxite> What's the support e-mail for Minecraft if there's a problem with billing?
#4129 [23:43] <xales> that might be .com
#4130 [23:43] <chesser45> max maybe 15
#4131 [23:43] <xales> Maxite: try payment@mojang.com AND daniel@mojang.com
#4132 [23:43] <chesser45> its just me and my buddies
#4133 [23:43] <xales> chesser45: Uh, 15 at once?
#4134 [23:44] <chesser45> probably only 7 max
#4135 [23:44] <chesser45> at once
#4136 [23:44] <xales> servers..aren't cheap
#4137 [23:44] <xales> like $30/month probably
#4138 [23:44] <xales> for that
#4139 [23:44] <xales> yeah
#4140 [23:45] <xales> like $27/month from AG
#4141 [23:45] <xales> https://allgamer.net/clients/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=0
#4142 [23:46] <chesser45> damn lol
#4143 [23:47] <chesser45> im in grade 10 so im not ecactly mde of money
#4144 [23:47] <chesser45> uhh say if i did in in my house what should the specs be per # of ppl?
#4145 [23:48] <SinZ> yay for my http connection to go retarted
#4146 [23:49] <xales> chesser45: At least 1GB of RAM for the server
#4147 [23:49] <chesser45> ok
#4148 [23:49] <xales> if you are running Windows, the computer should have at least 2GB
#4149 [23:49] <chesser45> proceesor speed?
#4150 [23:50] <xales> Linux, 1.5GB
#4151 [23:50] <xales> also, renting a server would be cheaper than buying one
#4152 [23:50] <chesser45> im thinking linux or a windows server
#4153 [23:50] <xales> what other choices are there..?
#4154 [23:50] <chesser45> mac:P
#4155 [23:50] <chesser45> lol
#4156 [23:51] <SinZ> lolno chesser
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#4158 [23:51] <chesser45> i have parts around so i could probably get one going
#4159 [23:51] <SinZ> everyone knows linux is best for hosting
#4160 [23:51] <chesser45> i was jk
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#4162 [23:53] <relsqui> I hate it when I can hear the zombies but not see the zombies >_<
#4163 [23:53] * relsqui is a huge wuss
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#4164 [23:53] <xales> find the zombies. zombie hunt!
#4165 [23:53] <SinZ> lol
#4166 [23:53] <SinZ> i hate it when i hear fire, but cant see the fire
#4167 [23:53] <randomuser> are connect timeouts expected?
#4168 [23:54] <xales> randomuser: no
#4169 [23:55] <randomuser> hmm
#4170 [23:55] <randomuser> i can log in every third try
#4171 [23:56] <xales> I think your system may be underpowered to run a VM?
#4172 [23:56] <xales> or something
#4173 [23:56] <xales> :/
#4174 [23:56] <randomuser> and it appears i can affect blocks that are sufficiently far away from the spawn
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#4176 [23:56] <Arkose> is hardware-assisted virtualisation enabled in both the VM and the BIOS?
#4177 [23:56] <Arkose> if it isn't or yours doesn't support it you'll get a second-rate experience
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#4179 [23:57] <xales> second-rate = laggy as hell
#4180 [23:57] <randomuser> i have hardware assisted virtualization. I gave the VM 2 cores and 2 GB RAM, it seems that should be sufficient
#4181 [23:58] <Arkose> give the VM one core.
#4182 [23:58] <Arkose> virtual machines handle multiple cores by virtualising them all on the same core
#4183 [23:58] <Arkose> (or something along those lines)
#4184 [23:59] <xales> Why are you using a VM in the first place? =/
#4185 [23:59] <randomuser> one? is there no SMP support, or does it just not need it?
#4186 [23:59] <Arkose> one core because it will most likely perform faster that way