#1 [00:00] <xales> Minecraft isn't really threaded, so it has to execute on one core anyway
#2 [00:00] <randomuser> xales, i know a lot of people would put it on old hardware sitting around; my old hardware is a dual socket third generation opteron system
#3 [00:00] <xales> Why not just run it on the computer, not in a virtual machine?
#4 [00:01] <randomuser> why not run it as a Xen guest? do you think my issues are related?
#5 [00:02] <xales> Why would you?
#6 [00:02] <xales> Performance would be better if you didn't, and there is no real reason to do it
#7 [00:03] <randomuser> well, i can easily move it to another system, take snapshots of the OS, and most importantly, isolate my minecraft server from everything else going on on this system
#8 [00:05] <xales> If you are worried about security, running it on Windows, even in a VM, is a bad idea.
#9 [00:05] <xales> That being said, you could just run it as a non-priveledged user
#10 [00:05] <randomuser> Oh, does windows have a Xen kernel now?
#11 [00:06] <xales> Did I say it did?
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#13 [00:06] <randomuser> did I say I was using windows?
#14 [00:07] <xales> I thought you did...sorry
#15 [00:07] <xales> 1% of people in this channel don't use Windows, so it is safe to assume people don't
#16 [00:07] <xales> anyway...
#17 [00:07] <randomuser> no worries
#18 [00:08] <xales> running it in a VM isn't any more secure than running it as a user with no privs
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#20 [00:08] <xales> if you really were concerned, you could chroot it to its homedir
#21 [00:08] <randomuser> if someone manages to get root access to the VM, they will not get any access to the host
#22 [00:09] <xales> It isn't possible to escape a proper chroot jail
#23 [00:09] <xales> and you suffer no performance loss
#24 [00:10] <xales> it is highly unlikely someone could escalate their priveledges if they didn't have any to begin with
#25 [00:10] <randomuser> i dont think i need to worry about performance loss
#26 [00:11] <xales> I mean, if you want to use it, go ahead, but I can't really help with MineOS, as I haven't used it.
#27 [00:11] <randomuser> http://fpaste.org/o820
#28 [00:12] <xales> "Page Not Found: Sorry, the paste you are trying to view no longer exists or you have the URL wrong.
#29 [00:14] <randomuser> oops, try http://fpase.org/zasw
#30 [00:15] <xales> Only 1.2GHz per core?
#31 [00:16] <randomuser> yep
#32 [00:16] <xales> that...might be an issue
#33 [00:16] <xales> Minecraft will only use 1 core for 99% of processing
#34 [00:16] <randomuser> it'll go up to 2.2 if there's a load
#35 [00:16] <xales> is that inside the VM?
#36 [00:17] <randomuser> no, that's the host. the VM has cores #7 and #15, only
#37 [00:20] <relsqui> heh. didn't have time to build the skylight before dark, so now there's just a 4x4 hole in the ground that leads to bedrock
#38 [00:20] <relsqui> hope nothing falls in! :D
#39 [00:20] <relsqui> ^lie
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#41 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> Now I remember why I don't like idleRPG...
#42 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> freakin setting off highlights
#43 [00:39] <xales> ignore it?
#44 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, can't do that without /ignoring IdleRPG altogether
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#46 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> Meh, oh well
#47 [01:00] <xales> I just have a script that strips the HILIGHT message level from any messages in that channel
#48 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> mIRC doesn't have that capability
#49 [01:00] <xales> :<
#50 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> It's all or nothing for highlighting
#51 [01:00] <relsqui> >_< got surprised by a creeper while filling in the skylight on the hole-that-leads-to-bedrock
#52 [01:01] <relsqui> that didn't go as badly as it could have :P but it almost went very, very badly
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#55 [01:06] <randomuser> i've got creepers and skeletons hunting me in broad daylight
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#57 [01:12] <aetherian> skellies?
#58 [01:12] <relsqui> shade?
#59 [01:13] <relsqui> they've got to be in really unobstructed sunlight to burn; trees are enough to protect them
#60 [01:13] * aetherian leans back to read a nice long terms of use by his isp so he doesn't violate anything
#60 [01:14] <Arkose> but part of that TOS is that they can change the TOS at any time with little or no warning
#61 [01:15] <aetherian> yeah...after they see what people do.
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#63 [01:16] <Arkose> like my ISP whining after offering an "unlimited" plan and having people actually take them at their word.
#64 [01:16] <Arkose> so now they don't have that plan at all D:
#65 [01:18] <aetherian> o_O
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#67 [01:19] <aetherian> they maintain the right to cut, drill, or otherwise alter improvements on my property, apparently.
#68 [01:19] <aetherian> o.o
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#70 [01:19] <Arkose> so they don't have rednecks foolishly refusing having fibre laid or something
#71 [01:20] <randomuser> are you canadian?
#72 [01:20] <whidgle> I am having a issue that I can't install any mods in minecraft sp when I try it gets as far as the Updating done window the game freezes, and I have deleted Meta_inf file.
#73 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - Try deleting the .minecraft folder itself, save your /saves/ folder
#74 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Then relaunch minecraft, it'll redownload everything
#75 [01:21] <Arkose> if you're using a mod manager it will have a restore function to not have to do that
#76 [01:22] <whidgle> I did that, I ended up deleting the whole .minecraft folder and starting completely with a new install, same thing.
#77 [01:22] <Arkose> so this problem is with more than just the one mod then?
#78 [01:22] <Arkose> what about mods installed through a manager?
#79 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Okay, by "... the game freezes", what exactly do you mean?
#80 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Does the game stop at "Done Loading"? Does it close? Does it become unresponsive?
#81 [01:23] <whidgle> Yes any mod that I have to go in and place class files including mod loader freezes it
#82 [01:23] <whidgle> it stops at done loading then just sits there.
#83 [01:24] <xales> ...
#84 [01:24] <xales> there is the problem
#85 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Then the mod is interfering with minecraft, either because it's incompatible, or you didn't install/remove it correctly
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#87 [01:24] <RelaXDragon> Anyone here who has some knowledge on how to fix errors and problems?
#88 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> In #MineCraftHelp? Never.
#89 [01:25] <RelaXDragon> xD
#90 [01:25] <RelaXDragon> So thats a yes?
#91 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Yes, that is indeed an affirmative.
#92 [01:25] <whidgle> I used to be able to install mods I did wild grass a couple of weeks ago, but when I tried to install modloader it started having this issue
#93 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> That's an issue with modloader than. You might want to try #risucraft whidgle.
#94 [01:26] <whidgle> but it still does it even after a complete new install.
#95 [01:26] <whidgle> and a clean minecraft.jar
#96 [01:26] <xales> Then you are installing it incorrectly. In any case, we don't support mods, sorry.
#97 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> You're absolutely sure you've deleted .minecraft completely, and only used minecraft.exe/jar to launch it
#98 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> The one from minecraft.net
#99 [01:27] <RelaXDragon> Well I just downloaded the Misa 64x64 texture pack into my default minecraft texture map. But now everytime I start up MC crashes on the blue loading screen. And the map where I put the texture has dissapeared...
#100 [01:27] <aetherian> yaaayyyy
#101 [01:27] <aetherian> I killed the wicked witch :D
#102 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> RelaXDragon - You need to install the HD texture fix to be able to use that
#103 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, you'd only be able to use the default 16x16 textures
#104 [01:28] <RelaXDragon> Okay... how I do that xD
#105 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> It should've told you in the forum post where you got the texture pack
#106 [01:28] <RelaXDragon> ok
#107 [01:28] <RelaXDragon> ty
#108 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=73861
#109 [01:30] <relsqui> holy crap, that's pretty
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#112 [01:33] <aetherian> brb
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#114 [01:33] <DantheMan> hello
#115 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#116 [01:34] <HoboPickle> i don't suppose anyone has any recommended hosts for a dedi for a SMP server?
#117 [01:34] <GreyVulpine> All depends on where you want it hosted from, how much you're willing to pay.
#118 [01:34] <DantheMan> eh
#119 [01:34] <DantheMan> ive been trying to host
#120 [01:35] <HoboPickle> preferibly us/canada - best bang for my buck.
#121 [01:35] <DantheMan> but it isnt working
#122 [01:35] <DantheMan> and i tried port forwarding
#123 [01:35] <DantheMan> what should i put the range to be?
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#125 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> 25565-25565
#126 [01:38] <HoboPickle> right now i host it on a single core 1.8GHz behind me and it just can't keep up with tnt explosions.
#127 [01:38] <xales> 25565-25565
#128 [01:38] <DantheMan> i did
#129 [01:38] <DantheMan> but it isnt working
#130 [01:38] <xales> Define "isn't working"
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#133 [01:40] <DantheMan> it says connection times out for my friend
#134 [01:40] <DantheMan> and i did those exact port
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#136 [01:40] <xales> What IP did he try to use?
#137 [01:41] <DantheMan> my IvP4
#138 [01:41] <DantheMan> ip
#139 [01:41] <xales> which is?
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#141 [01:41] <DantheMan> 192.168.1.94
#142 [01:41] <xales> That is the wrong IP
#143 [01:41] <DantheMan> what is it
#144 [01:41] <xales> That is only if he is on the same network as you
#145 [01:41] <DantheMan> which do i give him
#146 [01:42] <xales> You need to give him the one from http://whatismyip.com/
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#148 [01:44] <DantheMan> how do i find the port #?
#149 [01:44] <Coll> oh boy
#150 [01:44] <DantheMan> lo
#151 [01:44] <DantheMan> lol
#152 [01:44] <Coll> someone didnt read the bots message
#153 [01:45] <DantheMan> is it the 25565?
#154 [01:45] <xales> you don't need a port number
#155 [01:45] <DantheMan> he still couldnt connect
#156 [01:46] <DantheMan> same error he says
#157 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> What error
#158 [01:46] <DantheMan> connection time out
#159 [01:47] <DantheMan> and i gave him my ip from that website
#160 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to connect to it locally?
#161 [01:47] <DantheMan> yea
#162 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Walk me through your port forwarding
#163 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> What did you do to start off?
#164 [01:48] <DantheMan> port forward
#165 [01:49] <DantheMan> then mc server.exe
#166 [01:49] <DantheMan> then i joined in
#167 [01:49] <xales> >.>
#168 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> How did you port forward?
#169 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> Tell me the exact steps you took
#170 [01:49] <DantheMan> add program
#171 [01:49] <DantheMan> minecraft added tcp port
#172 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> Via.. what console, what interface?
#173 [01:49] <DantheMan> ports*
#174 [01:49] <DantheMan> 2wire
#175 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Okay, so your computer is hooked up directly to your 2wire modem then.
#176 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Is that correct?
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#178 [01:51] <aetherian> jeez, that's a lot of registry errors
#179 [01:51] <DantheMan> no its just connect to an ethernet in the wall
#180 [01:51] * GreyVulpine blinks.
#180 [01:51] <HoboPickle> O_O
#181 [01:51] <DantheMan> not directly to modem
#182 [01:51] <aetherian> o.o
#183 [01:51] <HoboPickle> are you in an office building?
#184 [01:51] <AndrewPH> UAGSHFGHDAF 2wire
#185 [01:52] <DantheMan> no
#186 [01:52] <AndrewPH> fuck 2wire's routers
#187 [01:52] * HoboPickle has NEVER seen ahome with ethernet ports in the walls
#187 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> DantheMan - okay, let's start with this...
#188 [01:52] <DantheMan> yea haha
#189 [01:52] <aetherian> andre: yes. very yes.
#190 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> What Operating system are you on?
#191 [01:52] <DantheMan> w7
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#193 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Start -> type in search bar: cmd -> ipconfig at the command prompt
#194 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> what's your ipv4 address and default gateway?
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#196 [01:54] <DantheMan> want me to go to 2wire page?
#197 [01:54] <DantheMan> its 192.168.1.94
#198 [01:55] <DantheMan> is the ipv4
#199 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Okay, and how did you connect to your 2wire's setup page?
#200 [01:56] <DantheMan> def gateway ip
#201 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> Alright. You're confident you set up port forwarding on 2wire's page correctly, to go to 192.168.1.94?
#202 [01:57] <DantheMan> yea
#203 [01:57] <randomuser> i love 2wire
#204 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Mind getting a screenshot for us to double-check?
#205 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Upload it to imgur.com, give us the URL
#206 [01:58] <randomuser> the right neigboorhoods have dozens and dozens of WEP encrypted APs full of people facebooking
#207 [02:00] <DantheMan> ok
#208 [02:00] <DantheMan> now its saying it took too long
#209 [02:00] <DantheMan> took too long to log in
#210 [02:01] <xales> Does it say that for you, or your friend?
#211 [02:01] <DantheMan> friend
#212 [02:01] <xales> What is his username?
#213 [02:01] <DantheMan> southbaypunk?
#214 [02:02] <xales> Have him close Minecraft, re-open it and try again
#215 [02:02] <DantheMan> k
#216 [02:03] <HoboPickle> DantheMan
#217 [02:03] <HoboPickle> i managed to login to your server ?
#218 [02:03] <HoboPickle> took two tries, though. first was a timeout.
#219 [02:03] <DantheMan> hm
#220 [02:04] <DantheMan> reason why its unstable?
#221 [02:05] <Kealper> minecraft.net has been acting up all day
#222 [02:07] <aetherian> I swear, I simple can not wait until the server is mainly squared away.
#223 [02:09] <aetherian> :|
#224 [02:12] <HoboPickle> yeah, seems mines having connection issues as well.
#225 [02:13] <aetherian> brb, moving computer soas to not get caught
#226 [02:13] <xales> LOL
#227 [02:13] <aetherian> xales: ...
#228 [02:13] <xales> http://imgba.co/n/xales.png
#229 [02:14] <aetherian> dysgalt?
#230 [02:14] <HoboPickle> what's a decent processor (speed/cores) to run a smp with ~10 players?
#231 [02:14] <xales> HoboPickle: 2.5GHz, cores doesn't matter
#232 [02:14] <xales> If it is a desktop, cores does matter
#233 [02:14] <HoboPickle> it is a desktop.
#234 [02:15] <aetherian> and if he is running a dedicated server on his laptop?
#235 [02:15] <HoboPickle> though only used for torrents and an mirc bot with the server.
#236 [02:15] <aetherian> heh
#237 [02:15] <xales> Get more than one core then
#238 [02:15] <xales> quad if possible, but dual should be OK
#239 [02:17] <aetherian> quad core for the win
#240 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Pfft.
#241 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/111910-intel-1000-core-processor.html
#242 [02:20] * GreyVulpine nods sagely.
#242 [02:21] * xales points at GreyVulpine and claims hax!
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#244 [02:28] <aetherian> :O
#245 [02:28] <aetherian> lol
#246 [02:28] <Kealper> that quit message was some srs bns
#247 [02:28] <xales> indeed
#248 [02:29] <aetherian> uhhh
#249 [02:29] <aetherian> yeah
#250 [02:29] <brodicius> say, if one starts up mc client and it just turns black, what might cause this?
#251 [02:29] <Kealper> many things
#252 [02:29] <aetherian> finding ways to live one you're dead is... common
#253 [02:29] <aetherian> brodi, what java version you running?
#254 [02:29] <brodicius> good question
#255 [02:30] <Kealper> aetherian: dead people who think you gotta eat brains of the living to return from the dead are common
#256 [02:30] <aetherian> ohhh right
#257 [02:30] * aetherian has cast turn undead!
#257 [02:30] <brodicius> java6 update 23
#258 [02:30] <aetherian> now I'm invulnerable, mainly.
#259 [02:31] <xales> brodicius: When exactly does it go black?
#260 [02:31] * Kealper taps 6 mana to lay down Undo Magic, and discards his pawn card from the field
#260 [02:32] <brodicius> i log in, checks for a new version, bar finishes loading, then it's black
#261 [02:32] <xales> Do you have any mods installed?
#262 [02:32] <brodicius> not to my knowledge
#263 [02:32] <Kealper> ok, how old is the computer, is it a laptop, what xales said, and have you updated your graphics drivers?
#264 [02:32] <brodicius> computer's like 3 months old, desktop
#265 [02:32] <brodicius> graphics driver is new
#266 [02:32] <xales> Is this the first time it has done this?
#267 [02:32] <brodicius> yep
#268 [02:32] <Kealper> well that's strange if it's that new
#269 [02:33] <brodicius> indeed
#270 [02:33] <Kealper> is this the first time you have run minecraft? or has it worked before?
#271 [02:33] <brodicius> i've tried backup and deleting minecraft
#272 [02:33] <brodicius> downloaded it again and it still happened
#273 [02:33] <brodicius> been playing for months
#274 [02:33] <xales> did you just delete the .exe, or the .minecraft folder?
#275 [02:33] <Kealper> that's very strange.....was there any recent change, like a windows update?
#276 [02:33] <brodicius> .minecraft
#277 [02:33] <aetherian> kealper: game conversion hax :o
#278 [02:33] <brodicius> nah
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#280 [02:34] <Kealper> that's.....incredibly strange....
#281 [02:34] <brodicius> this certainly is a pickle
#282 [02:34] <aetherian> beforehand, it was a cucumber, then?
#283 [02:34] <xales> Are you sure graphics drivers are up to date?
#284 [02:34] <brodicius> i'll check it again
#285 [02:35] <brodicius> seems odd that a driver issue would start now
#286 [02:35] <brodicius> last time the driver had an update was about a month ago
#287 [02:35] <Kealper> xales: i REALLY need to make a program that downloads the jar and launches it and then captures the stdout
#288 [02:35] <xales> Kealper: I'll do it
#289 [02:35] <xales> so it can be 4kb
#290 [02:35] <xales> :>
#291 [02:35] <Kealper> and then uses pastebin's api to post it there
#292 [02:35] <Kealper> lol
#293 [02:35] <Kealper> make it pastebin the stuff!
#294 [02:35] <xales> ez
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#296 [02:37] <Kealper> oh lord that would be so easy to make something to post to pastebin using just raw tcp
#297 [02:37] <aetherian> oh?
#298 [02:37] <Kealper> xales: http://minecrafthelp.pastebin.com/api.php
#299 [02:37] <Kealper> use that url :O
#300 [02:37] <xales> seen it
#301 [02:37] <Kealper> but i mean on the minecrafthelp subdomain
#302 [02:38] <xales> yup
#303 [02:39] <daemonelson> that's quite strange
#304 [02:39] <daemonelson> is there some kind of issue with running itunes at the same time as mc?
#305 [02:39] <daemonelson> just closed it and now all is well
#306 [02:39] <Kealper> not that i know of, my friend does it all the time
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#312 [02:56] <aetherian> ugh, itunes, you use up too many resources
#313 [02:57] <daemonelson> i heartily agree
#314 [02:58] <aetherian> I swear, wmp is better than it >.>
#315 [02:58] * aetherian likes to buy cds not mp3s
#315 [02:58] <Kealper> <3 Winamp
#316 [02:58] <daemonelson> 'buy'?
#317 [02:59] <daemonelson> what is this 'buy'?
#318 [02:59] <daemonelson> but really, i wouldn't use itunes if i hadn't gotten an iphone
#319 [02:59] <Kealper> the process of exchanging something of common value to legally obtain items of interest
#320 [02:59] <daemonelson> what an odd concept...
#321 [02:59] <aetherian> daemon, it's kinda hard to pirate original cds
#322 [02:59] <aetherian> >.>
#323 [03:01] <aetherian> now, I would be using a record player and buying records but for the fact that I haven't gotten around to buying one, and recently spent (blew) all my money.
#324 [03:01] <aetherian> =\
#325 [03:02] <Kealper> i'd love to buy some new vinyls
#326 [03:02] <daemonelson> speaking of which i've been astounded by the quality of converting records to mp3s
#327 [03:03] <Kealper> like seriously....vinyls have amazing quality if they are treated properly
#328 [03:03] <aetherian> there're a bunch of records I would love to have a copy of
#329 [03:03] <Kade> <Kealper> the process of exchanging something of common value to legally obtain items of interest <---- well.... actually buy doesn't really require any legality does it :P
#330 [03:03] <daemonelson> ah, yes
#331 [03:03] <Kealper> Kade: in that context it does
#332 [03:03] <aetherian> buying illegal drugs... legally!
#333 [03:03] <daemonelson> one may buy things illegally
#334 [03:03] <daemonelson> or, indeed, illegal things
#335 [03:06] <aetherian> but really, buying the drugs is half the thrill!
#336 [03:06] <aetherian> the other half is commiting suicide after sinking into a deep depression
#337 [03:06] <daemonelson> good times, haven't done that since i was oh...maybe 9
#338 [03:07] <aetherian> :o
#339 [03:07] <aetherian> how long did it take to respawn?
#340 [03:08] <daemonelson> 3 days
#341 [03:08] <daemonelson> bloody lag
#342 [03:08] <aetherian> nihillism=life lost its hard drive
#343 [03:10] <aetherian> narcisism=darn people always logging in as root >.>
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#345 [03:11] <aetherian> antisocial people=no wireless capability
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#348 [03:15] <Taz|Sleep> yo
#349 [03:15] <aetherian> WAKE UP
#350 [03:15] <xales> ello
#351 [03:15] * aetherian uses an air horn
#351 [03:16] * GreyVulpine puts on noise-cancelling headphones.
#351 [03:16] <Taz|Sleep> ffs
#352 [03:16] <Kealper> so i guess raw tcp was harder than i thought.....it is just not wanting to accept this paste
#353 [03:16] <xales> I thought I said I was going to do it :<
#354 [03:16] <Kealper> i wasn't doing it lol
#355 [03:16] <xales> Who wants to download 500kb just to pastebin stuff
#356 [03:16] <xales> :<
#357 [03:17] <Kealper> i was just seeing if i could make a pastebin function
#358 [03:17] <xales> ah
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#361 [03:17] <Kealper> it's about 280kb if i upx the crap out of it :/
#362 [03:17] * Taz|Sleep is now away - Reason : fucking name change :@
#362 [03:17] <DopeGhoti> um..
#363 [03:17] * Taz|Sleep is no longer away : Gone for 2 seconds
#363 [03:17] <DopeGhoti> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13599 2010-05-18 09:44 /usr/bin/pastebinit
#364 [03:18] <Taz|Sleep> brb
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#366 [03:18] <aetherian> xales: me?
#367 [03:18] <DopeGhoti> 13k small enough, Kealper?
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#369 [03:18] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: eh?
#370 [03:18] <Taz|Sleep> fook it
#371 [03:18] <DopeGhoti> pastebinit. Handy tool for redirecting output to pastebin
#372 [03:18] <Kealper> leave #minecraft, change nick, join it again
#373 [03:19] <Kealper> oh
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#375 [03:19] <Kealper> but i didn't make it.....lol
#376 [03:19] <Kealper> i am just making this to see if i can
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#378 [03:19] <aetherian> lul
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#380 [03:19] <Taz605> :|
#381 [03:19] <Taz605> i just got up
#382 [03:19] <Taz605> ty
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#384 [03:21] <aetherian> is it just me, or does lojban sound right out of a HP lovecraft story?
#385 [03:21] <Kealper> guess it's time to packetsniff a pastebin post to see how firefox formats it
#386 [03:23] <DopeGhoti> or just consult the pastebin API?
#387 [03:23] <aetherian> dopehoti: less fun
#388 [03:23] <Kealper> their api is garbage for the low-levelness that i need
#389 [03:23] <Taz605> wing it
#390 [03:23] <Kealper> it just says "use a POST with this crap, or use cURL!"
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#392 [03:25] <aetherian> gotta go to bed, big day tomorrow
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#394 [03:26] <aetherian> night
#395 [03:26] <Taz605> night
#396 [03:26] <aetherian> well uh
#397 [03:26] <aetherian> actually
#398 [03:26] <aetherian> it's morning
#399 [03:26] <aetherian> kbai
#400 [03:26] <Taz605> ...
#401 [03:26] <Kealper> AHA!
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#403 [03:27] <Kealper> apparently i absolutely had to send the correct content-type header for it to work
#404 [03:27] <Taz605> what you aking?
#405 [03:27] <Taz605> making*
#406 [03:28] <Kealper> a function to post data to pastebin.com
#407 [03:28] <Taz605> ahhh
#408 [03:28] <Kealper> http://kealper.pastebin.com/MUUDQ1Ht :O
#409 [03:29] <Taz605> that worked
#410 [03:29] <Kealper> indeed, that was done from that function i was making lol
#411 [03:30] <Taz605> where you making it for?
#412 [03:30] <Taz605> i can see it being used on a forum
#413 [03:30] <Kealper> nowhere, just making it to see if i could
#414 [03:30] <Taz605> ohhh
#415 [03:30] <Taz605> what laugue you ues?
#416 [03:30] <Taz605> use*
#417 [03:30] <Kealper> and you can't really use this on a forum, it's done with autoit
#418 [03:31] <Taz605> autoit?
#419 [03:31] <Kealper> the best interpreted language for windows that you've never heard of
#420 [03:31] <Taz605> ahh
#421 [03:32] <Taz605> it was quite funny onn on forum i when on years ago you could only use c# to post
#422 [03:32] <Kealper> eh?
#423 [03:32] <Taz605> all posts had to be coded in c#
#424 [03:33] <Kealper> o.o
#425 [03:33] <xales> wat
#426 [03:33] <Taz605> it is funny
#427 [03:34] <Taz605> to do apost you must make the post using c# or woukldn't work
#428 [03:34] <Taz605> wouldn't
#429 [03:42] <Kealper> wow....i just made a test GDI+ thing that is a super retarded simulation of looking down a hallway....and it can stay at the 60fps cap i have it at to avoid page tearing
#430 [03:42] <Kealper> in pure autoit... i is impressed lol
#431 [03:43] <xales> what happened to pastebin?
#432 [03:43] <Kealper> meh, i finished that....i moved on
#433 [03:43] <Kealper> i guess i can pastebin this code though
#434 [03:43] <Kealper> with that function
#435 [03:47] <Kealper> that works pretty good
#436 [03:47] <Kealper> http://kealper.pastebin.com/WHQDGAT6
#437 [03:48] <Kealper> wait, no it doesn't...
#438 [03:48] <Kealper> it clipped the end off....
#439 [03:50] <Kealper> meh, it works good to an extent
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#443 [04:48] <MrCrashdummy> I neede somebody who can help me set up a serve
#444 [04:48] <MrCrashdummy> r
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#447 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Yes, ask question, leave 30 seconds later.
#448 [04:57] * GreyVulpine blehs
#448 [04:59] <sixxor> hello. pepole can not join my minecraft server. i have my cpu connected directly to the modem so that i do not have to open any ports. is there some comapbility issues with certain nic´s?
#449 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> Atheros is a brand that regularly has problems.
#450 [04:59] <sixxor> thats the one i have ofc
#451 [05:01] <sixxor> ive tried setting up the card but i cant go as far as reccomended on either it was send or recive buffers with this card. but i do not think that i am supposed to buy another nic becouse of this. is there anyone working to fix compability? i mean ive acually paid for this game :P
#452 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, right now, there's really no way to make it work other than trying a *nix distro, getting a new NIC, or waiting for a fix.
#453 [05:02] <sixxor> what is a nix dirstro?
#454 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> Linux
#455 [05:02] <sixxor> how is linux going to fix a hardware issue?
#456 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> People have reported Atheros NICs playing nice when they're not using a windows driver
#457 [05:04] <sixxor> cool. i could emulate or go with a boot linux i guess. but then i wont be able to play and do al other stuff with the cpu. hm
#458 [05:05] <sixxor> do you think it would work if i put in an old wireless nic and connected thrugh my router with forwarded ports offcourse
#459 [05:05] <sixxor> ?
#460 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> Possibly
#461 [05:05] <sixxor> Been searching this question for weeks now. and there seem to be a LOT of ppl with this issue
#462 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#463 [05:06] <sixxor> anyway. is there a good site with servers you can join in on and play for fun ?
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#465 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> List of sites can be found:
#466 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> http://mcserverlist.net/
#467 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#468 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> servers.minecraftforum.net/
#469 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers
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#472 [05:15] <zelda> Hey guys anybody an idea why my server doesn't work it says: connetion timed out: connect ????
#473 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> zelda - Can you connect to it locally?
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#475 [05:20] <SinZ|Host> !check sinz.uk.to
#476 [05:20] <SinZ|Host> 0.o lies
#477 [05:22] <SinZ|Host> !check
#478 [05:22] <SinZ|Host> AuBot you lier, give me real result
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#481 [05:46] <heyasd> i found the application support but when i try to load it messes up
#482 [05:46] <heyasd> 2:44
#483 [05:46] <heyasd> just keeps saying updating minecraft
#484 [05:46] <heyasd> hello?
#485 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#486 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem?
#487 [05:47] <heyasd> i want to have my map on two computers
#488 [05:47] <heyasd> laptop desktop
#489 [05:48] <heyasd> and when i do it the app wont load into the came
#490 [05:48] <heyasd> game
#491 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> What exactly did you try to do?
#492 [05:49] <heyasd> get the save folder from the aplication support folder
#493 [05:49] <heyasd> im on mac
#494 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> Right, continue.
#495 [05:50] <heyasd> thats all
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#497 [05:50] <heyasd> it worked but my buildings were gone
#498 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> You copied the /minecraft/save folder from your mac to the /save/ folder onto your destination PC
#499 [05:50] <heyasd> destination mac but yeah
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#501 [05:51] <iitz_cheeze> i need help everytime i load the game its just a black screen any tips or help?
#502 [05:51] <khen> hi everyone! i dug straight down in a cave, so no stairs to get up. my axe is broken, and i have no materials. how do i commit suicide?
#503 [05:51] <AG_Clinton> ./kill
#504 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> Won't work if he's on single player
#505 [05:52] <khen> oh god...
#506 [05:52] <khen> i'm in single player
#507 [05:52] <khen> do i have to make another world?
#508 [05:52] <khen> after all this work?
#509 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> khen - you can try a map editor, move your player..
#510 [05:52] <AG_Clinton> I have no idea with single player.
#511 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> heyasd - Was there already a saves folder in the destination mac?
#512 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> Did you overwrite the files?
#513 [05:53] <heyasd> yeah
#514 [05:54] <heyasd> i replaced them
#515 [05:54] <heyasd> then when it didnt work i deleted everything and re installed
#516 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you didn't, you merged worlds, if there was already a world in the destination pc
#517 [05:54] <heyasd> but then i deleted everythign
#518 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Okay..
#519 [05:54] <heyasd> thanks for your help btw
#520 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> You deleted the ~/library/application support/minecraft folder on the destination mac, correct
#521 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> ?
#522 [05:55] <heyasd> yea
#523 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> And tried to copy over the /saves folder again, and it still didn't work?
#524 [05:56] <heyasd> yep
#525 [05:56] * GreyVulpine hmms...
#525 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> There's no reason why that shouldn't have worked.
#526 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> You can load up the world on the source PC, and you're in the spot where you intented to be... but it doesn't load up on the destination PC?
#527 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> or, I mean, it loads up, but you're not in the right spot?
#528 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> I don't see anything that might cause that at all. If it's a straight copy, from a source PC, to a clean install of minecraft on the other, it should be exactly the same.
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#530 [06:04] <heyasd> GOT IT
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#532 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
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#535 [06:07] <iitz_cheeze> games wont load on browser or or when i download its allways black screen any tips?
#536 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> iitz_cheeze - Has it always done this, or just recently?
#537 [06:07] <iitz_cheeze> allways
#538 [06:10] <gulugulu> and then he crashed
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#541 [06:14] <gulugulu> grey
#542 [06:14] <gulugulu> have u ever used overviwer ?
#543 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope.
#544 [06:14] <gulugulu> or any silimar app
#545 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> I.. don't actually know what you're talking about here so...
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#547 [06:16] <gulugulu> oh kk then it's a map overviwer on minecraft
#548 [06:16] <gulugulu> via web
#549 [06:16] <gulugulu> (fyi)
#550 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#551 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> So, what about it?
#552 [06:17] <gulugulu> nothing just looking for someone who have used it
#553 [06:17] <gulugulu> to gimme some hints on settings
#554 [06:19] <SinZ> is there anyway to connect to a classic server with ip WITH still going through name verification?
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#556 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?ip=ipaddresshere&port=25565 ?
#557 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> I don't know if that still works
#558 [06:21] <SinZ|Host> that would always give name verification not correct
#559 [06:21] <SinZ|Host> unless itd on offline mode
#560 [06:21] <SinZ|Host> its*
#561 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> Ah, why can't he use the URL generated by the server?
#562 [06:22] <SinZ|Host> i need to use a internal ip to connect to my desktop
#563 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I see.
#564 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> Double-natted or something?
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#566 [06:24] <Tim> Im Having Trouble Connecting Online
#567 [06:24] <GreyVulpine> Describe the problem.
#568 [06:25] <Tim> Whenever i enter a IP Private or public. It always says Connection Denied Reason: Connect
#569 [06:25] <Tim> I have bought beta
#570 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Try greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#571 [06:26] <Tim> Kk Im new to minecraft. a newb
#572 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Using the client, go to multiplayer, in the field provided, type: greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#573 [06:28] <Tim> Just says connection lost and lots of letters
#574 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> "lots of letters"?
#575 [06:29] <Tim> Well
#576 [06:29] <Tim> A Link#
#577 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, what?
#578 [06:31] <Tim> http://(ip adress)/game/joinserver.jsp?user=djm1zw1z&session... it continues
#579 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> Are you typing this into your browser?
#580 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> What client is this? Where did you download it?
#581 [06:33] <Tim> Into the multiplayer then i tried internet
#582 [06:33] <SinZ|Host> GreyVulpine, that error means that minecraft.net is broken
#583 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Um, did you get the client from here - http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#584 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net works just fine here.
#585 [06:34] <SinZ|Host> its minecraft.net side error
#586 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#587 [06:34] <Tim> oops
#588 [06:34] <SinZ|Host> iv had it alot =P
#589 [06:34] <Tim> all i know is that i downloaded it and got a gift code
#590 [06:35] <Tim> mah os is win7
#591 [06:35] <SinZ|Host> its timing out on trying to see if its a bad login
#592 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> Tim, did you get the minecraft client from here - http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#593 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> SinZ - I've never had that error at all.
#594 [06:35] <Tim> Ye
#595 [06:35] <SinZ|Host> iv tried to play minecraft alot when minecraft.net is down =P
#596 [06:36] <Tim> But when i tried its the first time its actually said 'Logging in'
#597 [06:36] <SinZ|Host> that means succesful connection to the server your joining
#598 [06:36] <Tim> bout time
#599 [06:36] <Tim> anyway another question
#600 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> I see his client trying to connect, but getting "lost connection"
#601 [06:37] <Tim> my friend hacks OFFLINE minecraft. Is that ok
#602 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> No.
#603 [06:37] <Tim> kk
#604 [06:37] <Tim> he tells me that Offline hacking is ok and online isnt
#605 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> Did he give you that version?
#606 [06:37] <Tim> No
#607 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> He's wrong.
#608 [06:37] <SinZ|Host> Tim, hacking offline mode = Piracy
#609 [06:37] <Tim> He uses a inventory hack where he can get any block
#610 [06:38] <Tim> not hack
#611 [06:38] <Tim> more cheat
#612 [06:38] <SinZ|Host> inventoy hack in singleplayer is ok
#613 [06:38] <SinZ|Host> Howso tim
#614 [06:38] <Tim> thats what i said
#615 [06:38] <Tim> singleplayer offline
#616 [06:38] <SinZ|Host> messing with the game for it to play without logging in means he shouldn't have access to the game
#617 [06:38] <Tim> kk
#618 [06:39] <Tim> It just seems that many people do it
#619 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't make it right
#620 [06:39] <SinZ|Host> its hard to control piracy
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#622 [06:40] <Tim> Anyway can you talk via headset online
#623 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Tim - Try deleting your .minecraft folder.
#624 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> No, there's no VoIP option in minecraft
#625 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#626 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Look for a .minecraft folder. If there's any saves you want to save, move the "saves" folder out. Then delete the .minecraft folder
#627 [06:41] <Tim> #Where do i look for it
#628 [06:41] * GreyVulpine points up
#628 [06:41] <Tim> inside minecraft or in my pc files
#629 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#630 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Look for a .minecraft folder. If there's any saves you want to save, move the "saves" folder out. Then delete the .minecraft folder
#631 [06:41] <Tim> wait wats search bar
#632 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> You're on windows 7, correct?
#633 [06:42] <Tim> I have single multi options and texture packs
#634 [06:42] <Tim> YEa
#635 [06:42] <Tim> Oh right
#636 [06:42] <Tim> i thought u mean in MC
#637 [06:42] <Tim> found it
#638 [06:42] <Tim> Delete it all
#639 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Delete the minecraft.exe client as well
#640 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Then, redownload the client at http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#641 [06:43] <SinZ> Tim, you can just delete the bin founder
#642 [06:43] <SinZ> folder*
#643 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Sure, but you never know what else is in there. Better to just axe the whole thing
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#645 [06:44] <Tim_> sorry pc reset
#646 [06:45] <Tim_> ok im in %appdata%
#647 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> See the .minecraft folder?
#648 [06:45] <Tim_> Yes
#649 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Are there any worlds you want to save?
#650 [06:45] <ItsCriminal|AFK> I can'T connect to minecraft
#651 [06:45] <Tim_> 2 and 4
#652 [06:46] <Tim_> well 2
#653 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> Go inside the .minecraft folder, move the saves folder out
#654 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> Then delete the whole .minecraft folder
#655 [06:46] <ItsCriminal|AFK> ok works
#656 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> ItsCriminal|AFK - minecraft.net is up..
#657 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#658 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> or was
#659 [06:46] <crickets> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#660 [06:46] <Tim> where do i send it to
#661 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> Tim, just move it outside to a safe location of your choice.
#662 [06:46] <Tim> ok
#663 [06:47] <Tim> takes a while to move...
#664 [06:49] <Tim> Done
#665 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> Now delete the .minecraft folder
#666 [06:49] <Tim> Ok
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#668 [06:49] <Tim> Wow theres alot of items
#669 [06:49] <Tim> done
#670 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Alright, go to where you have minecraft.exe, delete it too
#671 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Redownload a new one from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#672 [06:51] <Tim> hope it works
#673 [06:52] <Tim> Why do i have to do all this btw
#674 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Just to make sure you got a known good set of files.
#675 [06:53] <Tim> User not premium?
#676 [06:53] <Tim> Hmm
#677 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Um, one sec
#678 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Website is up...
#679 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Authentication server looks up as well
#680 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Try again
#681 [06:54] <Tim> Same
#682 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> You sure you bought beta?
#683 [06:54] <Tim> Yes I Got A Gift Code
#684 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Did you redeem it?
#685 [06:55] <Tim> Yes
#686 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft username?
#687 [06:55] <Tim> DjM1zw1z
#688 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=DjM1zw1z
#689 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> Shows that account hasn't been marked as premium
#690 [06:56] <Tim> Hmm
#691 [06:56] <Tim> Ill Get the code again, Might have been a error
#692 [06:56] <gulugulu> just made my first
#693 [06:56] <gulugulu> skin if you got time vote it http://www.minecraftskins.com/ :D
#694 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Tim, you sure you logged in at minecraft.net, and redeemed your code at http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#695 [06:56] <gulugulu> it's Umpa Lumpa :P
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#697 [06:59] <Elvang> Once the sun comes up, do the hostile mobs disperse or hang around?
#698 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> skellies and zombies burn up, spiders and creepers stick around
#699 [06:59] <Elvang> Alright
#700 [06:59] <Tim> Spiders are harmless at day if you dont attack the,
#701 [07:00] <Tim> them*
#702 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, not for me... spiders hate my guts
#703 [07:00] <Tim> Creepers hate me
#704 [07:00] <Tim> they blew up my house again
#705 [07:00] <Elvang> They blew up my tree farm :(
#706 [07:00] <Tim> Its scary when there are 2 creepers in your house
#707 [07:02] <Tim> Anyway Creepers are useless agaisnt diamond
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#709 [07:05] <izzd> how do i find the screenshots folder?
#710 [07:06] <SinZ|Host> what os
#711 [07:06] <izzd> xp pro
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#713 [07:06] <SinZ|Host> %appdata%\.minecraft\
#714 [07:06] <izzd> thanks
#715 [07:07] <SinZ|Host> yw
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#717 [07:09] <izzd> i tried taking screens with the enlarged window mode but got fail messages?
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#719 [07:09] <Thomazze> hello`?
#720 [07:09] <Elvang> Hello
#721 [07:09] <Thomazze> are u admin?
#722 [07:10] <Elvang> No
#723 [07:10] <Thomazze> who is?
#724 [07:10] <Thomazze> -.-
#725 [07:11] <Ruggsy[]Umb[]> >.>
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#732 [07:55] <Tim> Grey
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#733 [08:15] <jamster> in my mindcraft game i got super lost! is there a map program for beta so i can find out where i am so i can get back
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#735 [08:17] <SinZ> catograph
#736 [08:18] <jamster> thanks
#737 [08:23] <jamster> SinZ: actually it is a server i need to map - and this only lets me map single player games i think
#738 [08:23] <jamster> sorry i should have said that
#739 [08:23] <jamster> i am running the server though
#740 [08:23] <jamster> so i have access to the files
#741 [08:23] <SinZ> what software
#742 [08:23] <SinZ> bukkit?
#743 [08:24] <SinZ> and singleplayer and multiplayer maps are identical
#744 [08:24] <SinZ> so it should work
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#746 [08:26] <Forest_HUN> hello there! I am new here, I saw it on minecraft.net. May I ask a question about a problem with my game here?
#747 [08:26] <SinZ> yes
#748 [08:26] <SinZ> what do you need
#749 [08:27] <Forest_HUN> so here is a problem: yesterday, I started a new world, and was playing on it all day, turned the computer off durring the day, logged out- did some other things too, but i logged in and found the game still at the game slots.
#750 [08:27] <Forest_HUN> today, it was all gone, all of my saves are gone
#751 [08:28] <Forest_HUN> and totally don't know what to do, can I get them back, or what should I do to prevent this happening in the future
#752 [08:28] <SinZ> did you exit normaly, or did you alt+f4 or something
#753 [08:28] <Ruggsy> you can save your games saves
#754 [08:28] <Ruggsy> you just go into your save folder
#755 [08:28] <Ruggsy> and make backups of the world1, world2 etc
#756 [08:28] <Ruggsy> or they are world_1 something like that
#757 [08:28] <Forest_HUN> hmm.. it is possible that I didn't exit normally
#758 [08:28] <Forest_HUN> where is this save game folder?
#759 [08:29] <Ruggsy> what OS do you use?
#760 [08:29] <Forest_HUN> win7 64bit
#761 [08:29] <SinZ> %appdata%\.minecraft\saves\
#762 [08:29] <Ruggsy> ^^
#763 [08:29] <Forest_HUN> ah I see
#764 [08:29] <Forest_HUN> yeah - my save games folder is empty :(
#765 [08:29] <SinZ> thats like the 17th time today iv typed that =P
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#767 [08:30] <Forest_HUN> bah
#768 [08:30] <Forest_HUN> yeah, now it works with new worlds, I think I should make these backup copies from those from now on
#769 [08:30] <SinZ> or close normaly
#770 [08:30] <SinZ> by clicking esc ingame
#771 [08:31] <SinZ> and exiting that way
#772 [08:31] <SinZ> when in main menu, thats when you can close it any way you want
#773 [08:31] <Forest_HUN> yeah :( I learnt a lesson here
#774 [08:31] <Forest_HUN> and how does the game store my world when I play in the browser?
#775 [08:31] <SinZ> same folder
#776 [08:31] <Forest_HUN> like for instance on a different pc, I cannot see the saves on the other pc?
#777 [08:31] <SinZ> nah
#778 [08:31] <SinZ> all local
#779 [08:32] <Forest_HUN> I see, thank you very much for the help!
#780 [08:32] <SinZ> your welcome
#781 [08:32] <SinZ> you're*
#782 [08:32] <Forest_HUN> have a nice day, now I gotta go back dig out a new monster trap and stuff :)
#783 [08:32] <Forest_HUN> bye :)
#784 [08:32] <SinZ> heh
#785 [08:32] <SinZ> what type
#786 [08:32] <SinZ> lava on ladder, or cacti drown
#787 [08:32] <Forest_HUN> 50*50*2 with water sinking
#788 [08:32] <SinZ> ah
#789 [08:33] <SinZ> drowning
#790 [08:33] <Forest_HUN> and lava kills
#791 [08:33] <Ruggsy> damn
#792 [08:33] <Ruggsy> i still cant get on this servet
#793 [08:33] <Ruggsy> and the admin is 23 hours idle on IRC
#794 [08:33] <Ruggsy> server*
#795 [08:34] <Forest_HUN> ok, so bye!
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#803 [09:12] <elmo> Login servers are down?
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#806 [09:17] <jamster> right before the site crashed i bought a copy of minecrat - but i never got a confirmation e-mail .. and it tells me i have to buy minecraft when i go to play within my browser - shoudl i just buy again? or wait?
#807 [09:19] <Ruggsy> you should wait untill the website is up
#808 [09:19] <jamster> it is
#809 [09:19] <jamster> or was a minute ago
#810 [09:19] <jamster> yeah it is
#811 [09:19] <Ruggsy> can you log in?
#812 [09:20] <jamster> yes
#813 [09:20] <Ruggsy> ohhhhh i see
#814 [09:20] <jamster> log-in to the site .. not to minecraft
#815 [09:20] <jamster> the game
#816 [09:20] <Ruggsy> yea
#817 [09:20] <Ruggsy> im not sure D:
#818 [09:20] <OODavo> :D
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#820 [09:21] <jamster> since this is the official help channel - is there someone i can speak with about accounts?
#821 [09:22] <Taz605> tell
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#823 [09:22] <jamster> to see if they don't have the record
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#827 [09:27] <Taz605> what?
#828 [09:27] <Ruggsy> Taz605
#829 [09:27] <Taz605> mhmm?
#830 [09:27] <Ruggsy> the site went down almost as he was buying it
#831 [09:27] <Ruggsy> and he hasnt gotten a conformation
#832 [09:27] <Taz605> ocwh
#833 [09:28] <jamster> yeah i got a confirmation page but not a confirmation e-mail
#834 [09:28] <Taz605> wait it out cheak your bank
#835 [09:28] <Taz605> if not eail them
#836 [09:28] <jamster> but that's 3 days :(
#837 [09:28] <OODavo> :)
#838 [09:28] <jamster> yeah
#839 [09:28] <jamster> i'll have to
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#841 [09:28] <Ruggsy> either you can wait and check
#842 [09:28] <Ruggsy> or go and buy it again
#843 [09:29] <jamster> true
#844 [09:32] <SkiingPenguins> what's your minecraft name?
#845 [09:32] <jamster> amyrhoo
#846 [09:32] <SkiingPenguins> !paid amyrhoo
#847 [09:32] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#848 [09:32] <jamster> oh wow!
#849 [09:32] <jamster> is that real?
#850 [09:32] <SkiingPenguins> !paid blahblahblah123
#851 [09:32] <SkiingPenguins> yea it is
#852 [09:33] <jamster> that's awesome
#853 [09:33] <SkiingPenguins> !paid SkiingPenguins
#854 [09:33] <Ruggsy> lol
#855 [09:33] <SkiingPenguins> see
#856 [09:33] <jamster> !paid mpchester
#857 [09:33] <SkiingPenguins> jamster you should be able to play :P
#858 [09:33] <jamster> awesome thanks a lot
#859 [09:33] <jamster> you helped a lot!
#860 [09:35] <SkiingPenguins> a lot of people come in here wondering if it worked, as they bought the game the same time you did
#861 [09:40] <jamster> ahh
#862 [09:48] <relsqui> !paid relsqui
#863 [09:48] <relsqui> relsqui was actually gifted Minecraft
#864 [09:48] <relsqui> but close enough :)
#865 [09:48] <OODavo> :(
#866 [09:52] <Ruggsy> he stoled it
#867 [09:52] <relsqui> nah, I just didn't have $20 to my name when my friend got me hooked, and he sprang for it so I could play it with him :P
#868 [09:53] <relsqui> but then I got paid so now I'm thinking of passing it on
#869 [09:56] <SkiingPenguins> the first thing i bought when i got a debit card was minecraft :P
#870 [09:57] <relsqui> haha
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#872 [10:01] <peru_> nice
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#874 [10:14] <SinZ> ima go to bed, going to a party tomorrow
#875 [10:15] <fogWraith> SinZ: lame :P
#876 [10:15] <fogWraith> Why go to bed now for a party in the morning?
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#883 [10:47] <jorjo> hi. i wanted to try how it works to change my skin and modified it just a bit and uploaded it. now if i use the link to see it , i csee my current skin or not...
#884 [10:48] <jorjo> so it dont show me my skin at all
#885 [10:51] <SkiingPenguins> jorjo: skin previews seem to be down at the moment.. sorry
#886 [10:51] <SkiingPenguins> try going in-game and look in your inventory
#887 [10:51] <jorjo> oh i see
#888 [10:51] <SkiingPenguins> they've been messed up for a while
#889 [10:52] <jorjo> i just did that and haha he got the orange glasses :D thx
#890 [10:52] <SkiingPenguins> :D
#891 [10:55] <Elvang> Geh, first encounter with magma
#892 [10:56] <Elvang> Cleared a stack of gravel and it came down after it :(
#893 [10:56] <Elvang> Does it spread infinitely so long as theres a path lower than the source?
#894 [10:57] <jorjo> i have seen there are some skin editors with 3d preview. is there something like that for mac as well?
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#897 [11:02] <SkiingPenguins> Elvang yes
#898 [11:02] <SkiingPenguins> i think so
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#900 [11:03] <mib_zsme0a> Hello, I m a french player and i need help to settle the game on my computer (sorry for my poor english)
#901 [11:03] <Elvang> Stopped the flow with some cobblestone, the rest disappeared after that
#902 [11:03] <Elvang> Safe to assume theres a larger pool of it above me since thats where it was leaking from?
#903 [11:04] <SkiingPenguins> mib_zsme0a what do you need help with?
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#907 [11:06] <SkiingPenguins> mib_zsme0a you there?
#908 [11:07] <mib_zsme0a> after i place the various programs in the good file, I try to launch the game but that does not work
#909 [11:07] <SkiingPenguins> what operating system are you using?
#910 [11:08] <mib_zsme0a> Windows xp
#911 [11:08] <SkiingPenguins> are you using the .exe or .jar?
#912 [11:08] <mib_zsme0a> the .exe
#913 [11:08] <SkiingPenguins> place it on your desktop and try to run it
#914 [11:10] <mib_zsme0a> I have already made it
#915 [11:10] <SkiingPenguins> what does it do?
#916 [11:10] <mib_zsme0a> nothing...
#917 [11:11] <SkiingPenguins> you try to run it and nothing appears on the screen?
#918 [11:11] <mib_zsme0a> yes
#919 [11:11] <SkiingPenguins> do you have java installed?
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#921 [11:12] <mib_zsme0a> I have it, but not the last version Because she does not want to settle
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#923 [11:13] <SkiingPenguins> do you know how to open the command line?
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#925 [11:13] <mib_zsme0a> of the game ?
#926 [11:13] <Jackson413> hi all
#927 [11:14] <mib_zsme0a> hi
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#929 [11:14] <SkiingPenguins> mib_zsme0a no, for windows me.
#930 [11:14] <SkiingPenguins> windows xp*
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#932 [11:14] <Jackson413> lol
#933 [11:14] <Denton> is there anyone who can help me change the email of my Minecraft acc?
#934 [11:15] <EntSmoker> #help
#935 [11:15] <mib_zsme0a> no, i don't know how open it
#936 [11:15] <SkiingPenguins> mib_zsme0a why does the newest java not work?
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#939 [11:16] <EntSmoker> Hi all !! I have some problem for make a server any can help me pls ???
#940 [11:17] <mib_zsme0a> when I settle it, to the end he can't finish
#941 [11:17] <SkiingPenguins> EntSmoker private message me
#942 [11:17] <qos> is there a way to change my email address?
#943 [11:17] <relsqui> SkiingPenguins: why do you want to help in PM instead of out here where other people can learn too?
#944 [11:17] <SkiingPenguins> im trying to help mib_zsme0a and im getting confused
#945 [11:18] <SkiingPenguins> i wish xales or GreyVulpine were here
#946 [11:18] <The_Chosen_One> any hears me?
#947 [11:18] <The_Chosen_One> plz
#948 [11:18] <SkiingPenguins> mib_zsme0a is there an error it says?
#949 [11:18] <The_Chosen_One> !!!!!
#950 [11:18] <SkiingPenguins> The_Chosen_One what?
#951 [11:18] <The_Chosen_One> i saw herobrine im still scared and my pc just auto rebooted and stuff awmg plz help!
#952 [11:19] <The_Chosen_One> plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#953 [11:19] <SkiingPenguins> do you need help with minecraft, The_Chosen_One ?
#954 [11:19] <The_Chosen_One> dude read what i sead plz!?
#955 [11:19] <The_Chosen_One> said
#956 [11:19] <mib_zsme0a> yes it says there an error
#957 [11:19] <SkiingPenguins> mib_zsme0a what error is it?
#958 [11:20] <The_Chosen_One> penguins plz help me he ruined all my freaking buildings!
#959 [11:20] <qos> is there a way to change my email address?
#960 [11:20] <SkiingPenguins> The_Chosen_One if you dont have a problem with minecraft, stfu please
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#962 [11:20] <spitty> HI
#963 [11:20] <SkiingPenguins> qos you could try emailing them
#964 [11:20] <spitty> can someone help me please :(
#965 [11:20] <spitty> i just bought the game
#966 [11:20] <SkiingPenguins> yea
#967 [11:20] <spitty> and it says log in fail :(
#968 [11:20] <spitty> plz
#969 [11:20] <relsqui> spitty: probably hasn't kicked in yet
#970 [11:20] <SkiingPenguins> what's your login name?
#971 [11:20] <spitty> tell me :(
#972 [11:20] <relsqui> give it a little while
#973 [11:20] <OODavo> :)
#974 [11:20] <spitty> spitty_90
#975 [11:21] <relsqui> spitty: if you *just* bought it they might not have updated your account yet
#976 [11:21] <spitty> PLZ TELL ME :(
#977 [11:21] <OODavo> :)
#978 [11:21] <relsqui> spitty: we are telling you.
#979 [11:21] <spitty> ok
#980 [11:21] <relsqui> spitty: why are you asking us to tell you what we are already telling you?
#981 [11:21] <spitty> how much should i wait
#982 [11:21] <SkiingPenguins> spitty what is your minecraft account name?
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#984 [11:21] <spitty> spitty_90
#985 [11:21] <mib_zsme0a> If you want to kow it exactly i have to retry to settle it
#986 [11:21] <SkiingPenguins> !paid spitty_90
#987 [11:21] <spitty> wat???
#988 [11:21] <spitty> i did
#989 [11:21] <SkiingPenguins> alright spitty just wait
#990 [11:21] <relsqui> spitty: it's just delayed
#991 [11:21] <SkiingPenguins> it can take some time, spitty
#992 [11:21] <spitty> ok
#993 [11:21] <relsqui> spitty: you can use that to see when it takes effect
#994 [11:21] <spitty> i payed i swear :(
#995 [11:21] <SkiingPenguins> it's okay
#996 [11:22] <spitty> ok ill wait
#997 [11:22] <relsqui> spitty: we believe you, it just hasn't kicked in yet :)
#998 [11:22] <spitty> i almost had a heart attack
#999 [11:22] <SkiingPenguins> mib_zsme0a retry installiing java
#1000 [11:22] <relsqui> heh
#1001 [11:22] <spitty> thanks guys
#1002 [11:22] <The_Chosen_One> why does no1 helps me aw my freaking gosh!
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#1004 [11:22] <relsqui> The_Chosen_One: you don't seem to be asking for any minecraft-related help
#1005 [11:22] <Ruggsy> because your being annoying
#1006 [11:23] <The_Chosen_One> i hate this awmg!
#1007 [11:23] <relsqui> lol
#1008 [11:23] <Ruggsy> nice
#1009 [11:23] <Ruggsy> :P
#1010 [11:23] <SkiingPenguins> jeez this is confusing
#1011 [11:23] <Elvang> So buckets can only take source tiles right?
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#1013 [11:24] <relsqui> Elvang: yeah, although if you use a few sources to make a big still area, you can pick up from anywhere in it
#1014 [11:24] <relsqui> Elvang: basically, you can pick up still (non-flowing) fluids
#1015 [11:24] <relsqui> if that makes sense.
#1016 [11:24] <Elvang> So I can create more sources of magma?
#1017 [11:24] <SkiingPenguins> you can only pick up a "full" block of water/lava
#1018 [11:24] <relsqui> I assume so, since you can do that with water
#1019 [11:25] <relsqui> I haven't done it with lava/magma myself
#1020 [11:25] <mib_5rj61b> ok i retry it and that said bin\awt.dll : old file not found
#1021 [11:25] <relsqui> Elvang: try making a 3x1 channel (dig out three adjacent blocks in the floor) and pour lava into the two on the ends
#1022 [11:25] <relsqui> you should then be able to pick up from the middle indefinitely
#1023 [11:25] <relsqui> (it'll just refill itself from the sides)
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#1025 [11:26] <relsqui> or if you make a 2x2 and pour into two opposite corners, you'll then be able to pick up from anywhere in it
#1026 [11:26] <relsqui> and it'll refill itself
#1027 [11:26] <Elvang> I've got a flow coming through the roof that isn't spilling to the sides that I've been taking from
#1028 [11:27] <relsqui> ah, yeah--if the hole it's falling into is small enough to be filled by it, that would work too
#1029 [11:27] <SkiingPenguins> mib_5rj61b i do not know how to fix that
#1030 [11:27] <Elvang> Is there always a lake/pool of magma that its coming from?
#1031 [11:27] <relsqui> Elvang: it comes from a source block
#1032 [11:27] <Elvang> Don't want to touch the other gravel piles if theres quite a bit more up there
#1033 [11:28] <relsqui> if you picked up that block with your bucket the whole flow would stop
#1034 [11:28] <SkiingPenguins> mib_5rj61b okay remove java using add/remove programs in control panel
#1035 [11:28] <relsqui> but yeah, hard to tell whether you're looking at the source block or if it's buried somewhere further
#1036 [11:28] <relsqui> it COULD be coming from a whole lake up there somewhere
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#1038 [11:30] <mib_5rj61b> SkiingPenguins > I am going to try and after I say to you if it work.
#1039 [11:30] <SkiingPenguins> okay
#1040 [11:30] <spitty> WTF
#1041 [11:30] <spitty> wat is this
#1042 [11:31] <spitty> guys :(
#1043 [11:31] <OODavo> :)
#1044 [11:31] <SkiingPenguins> spitty what's wrong?
#1045 [11:31] <spitty> i cant log in from the website
#1046 [11:31] <spitty> page
#1047 [11:31] <spitty> it says wrong password
#1048 [11:31] <spitty> :(
#1049 [11:31] <OODavo> :)
#1050 [11:31] <spitty> what the hell
#1051 [11:31] <relsqui> is there a password recovery thing?
#1052 [11:31] <spitty> yes
#1053 [11:31] <spitty> now its saying no such user
#1054 [11:31] <spitty> wtf
#1055 [11:31] <spitty> i just bought it
#1056 [11:31] <SkiingPenguins> !paid spitty_90
#1057 [11:31] <SkiingPenguins> gggrr
#1058 [11:32] <spitty> im cursed :(
#1059 [11:32] <OODavo> :)
#1060 [11:32] <relsqui> maybe spitty_90 was taken and you had to use spitty_91 and forgot about it?
#1061 [11:32] <spitty> no
#1062 [11:32] <spitty> i tried to reset with my email too
#1063 [11:32] <spitty> its still saying no such user
#1064 [11:33] <spitty> Hi spiity_90,
#1065 [11:33] <spitty>
#1066 [11:33] <spitty> Thank you for purchasing Minecraft!
#1067 [11:33] <spitty> To play the game, visit http://www.minecraft.net/ and either download the game, or play it directly in your web browser.
#1068 [11:33] <spitty>
#1069 [11:33] <spitty> Your user name is spiity_90
#1070 [11:33] <relsqui> !paid spiity_90
#1071 [11:33] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#1072 [11:33] <lukegb> !paid spiity_90
#1073 [11:33] <spitty> wtf
#1074 [11:33] <relsqui> there's your problem :P
#1075 [11:33] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#1076 [11:33] <Ruggsy> lololol
#1077 [11:33] <spitty> i hate myself
#1078 [11:33] <lukegb> there's your problem; too many toasters!
#1079 [11:33] <SkiingPenguins> spitty you're not cursed :D
#1080 [11:33] * spitty facepalms
#1080 [11:33] <SkiingPenguins> just dont suicide ;) no minecraft in hell
#1081 [11:33] <OODavo> ;(
#1082 [11:34] <spitty> loool
#1083 [11:34] <relsqui> don't feel bad. I faceplanted into lava with a packful of diamonds yesterday. we all make mistakes.
#1084 [11:34] <spitty> how did i write spiity :\
#1085 [11:34] <spitty> i guess i was too excited :D
#1086 [11:34] <spitty> thanks guys
#1087 [11:34] <spitty> im such an idiot x
#1088 [11:34] <spitty> xD
#1089 [11:34] * relsqui grins
#1089 [11:34] <relsqui> have fun!
#1090 [11:36] <spitty> thanks guys :)
#1091 [11:36] <Elvang> Eh, how do I put myself out?
#1092 [11:36] <Elvang> Slight magma mishap
#1093 [11:36] <spiity> xD
#1094 [11:36] <relsqui> water
#1095 [11:36] <relsqui> probably too late by now >_>
#1096 [11:37] <Elvang> Yea, I boxed myself in so my stuff wouldn'
#1097 [11:37] <Elvang> Geh, creeper spawn killed me
#1098 [11:37] <SkiingPenguins> i play in peaceful
#1099 [11:37] <Elvang> *boxed my stuff in so it wouldn't fly into magma
#1100 [11:37] <relsqui> ew, creeper spawn
#1101 [11:38] <relsqui> SkiingPenguins: I like being able to get stuff from monsters. plus the friends I play with like fighting them. but I'm a peaceful player at heart -_-
#1102 [11:38] <Ruggsy> yea i play peacefull too
#1103 [11:38] <SkiingPenguins> i get very scared of the monster
#1104 [11:39] <relsqui> yeah; I do too but I'm trying to get better about that
#1105 [11:39] <relsqui> reminding myself that my life and limb are not ACTUALLY at risk >_>
#1106 [11:39] <SkiingPenguins> i get too into the game and jump out of my seat when i hear the archer skellies
#1107 [11:39] <relsqui> a creeper almost gave me a heart attack yesterday
#1108 [11:39] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#1109 [11:39] <spiity> WTF
#1110 [11:39] <spiity> :|
#1111 [11:40] <spiity> shit u gonna hate me :\
#1112 [11:40] <spiity> when i log in its saying Cant connect
#1113 [11:40] <spiity> to minecraft.net
#1114 [11:40] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#1115 [11:40] <spiity> >:O
#1116 [11:40] <spiity> >:D
#1117 [11:40] <SkiingPenguins> reset your browser cache?
#1118 [11:40] <relsqui> that's normal >_>
#1119 [11:40] <SkiingPenguins> oh
#1120 [11:40] <relsqui> well, I mean
#1121 [11:40] <relsqui> not *normal*
#1122 [11:40] <SkiingPenguins> often?
#1123 [11:40] <relsqui> but minecraft.net is kinda sketchy
#1124 [11:40] <relsqui> keep trying
#1125 [11:40] <spiity> ok
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#1127 [11:41] <spiity> there
#1128 [11:41] <spiity> finally
#1129 [11:41] <spiity> worked
#1130 [11:41] <relsqui> woo
#1131 [11:41] <spiity> lol
#1132 [11:41] <spiity> another thing :|
#1133 [11:42] <froglegstew> That does not work.... ><
#1134 [11:42] <spiity> Internal client error: java.net.connectException: Connection timed out:connect
#1135 [11:43] <relsqui> yeah, it's just having trouble connecting
#1136 [11:43] <Elvang> Firewall/iplist?
#1137 [11:43] <relsqui> is this trying to connect to a multi server?
#1138 [11:43] <spiity> dunno what u talking about
#1139 [11:43] <relsqui> are you trying to connect to someone else's server or play singleplayer?
#1140 [11:43] <spiity> someones else server
#1141 [11:43] <spiity> multiplayer
#1142 [11:44] <relsqui> is the server confirmed up and working for other people?
#1143 [11:44] <SkiingPenguins> spiity what server is it?
#1144 [11:44] <spiity> oh it worked now
#1145 [11:44] <spiity> parkrrr.net
#1146 [11:44] <spiity> or 4 r's i think
#1147 [11:44] <relsqui> yeah. it was just having trouble connecting to minecraft.net probably
#1148 [11:44] <SkiingPenguins> !check parkrrrr.net
#1149 [11:44] <SkiingPenguins> !check parkrrr.net
#1150 [11:44] <SkiingPenguins> alright
#1151 [11:44] <relsqui> hehe
#1152 [11:44] <Elvang> Do fires clear out the wood too or just the leaves of the trees?
#1153 [11:45] <froglegstew> SkiingPenguins > that say the same thing when i try to settle it...
#1154 [11:45] <SkiingPenguins> Elvang for me, it leaves random wood laying around
#1155 [11:45] <relsqui> fires will burn the wood; I think the wood won't disappear unless you get three sides burning
#1156 [11:45] <SkiingPenguins> froglegstew did you try to uninstall it?
#1157 [11:45] <Elvang> I've got a huge forest right by my spawn, but I really don't want to climb the trees to get all the branches
#1158 [11:45] <spiity> SkiingPenguins: u made my day, thanks buddy
#1159 [11:45] <SkiingPenguins> :)
#1160 [11:46] <relsqui> baww
#1161 [11:46] <spiity> xD
#1162 [11:46] * relsqui grins
#1162 [11:47] <relsqui> okay it is time to make another chest just for cobblestone :|
#1163 [11:47] <froglegstew> ah... I don't have the same name now >< ( I'm the guys with java error settle )
#1164 [11:47] <SkiingPenguins> froglegstew open C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin and see if that awt.dll is in there?
#1165 [11:47] <SkiingPenguins> its okay i recognized you
#1166 [11:50] <froglegstew> Now I have no more version of Java and that does not work, what I do ?
#1167 [11:50] <SkiingPenguins> froglegstew do you mean java is not on your computer?
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#1171 [11:52] <relsqui> Elvang: yeah, that's kind of annoying
#1172 [11:52] <relsqui> Elvang: I tend to just stand on a pile of earth to do it
#1173 [11:53] <Elvang> The leaves won't start disappearing on their own so long as they are touching wood, even if its not connected to the ground right?
#1174 [11:53] <relsqui> right
#1175 [11:53] <froglegstew> I do not know how to explain it SkiingPenguins... sorry
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#1177 [11:53] <SkiingPenguins> froglegstew download the new java and install it
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#1179 [11:54] <damionFoster> >.> anyone else getting the 503 error?
#1180 [11:55] <froglegstew> that say the same message
#1181 [11:56] <SkiingPenguins> froglegstew is the C:\program files\java folder empty?
#1182 [11:58] <froglegstew> It's not empty, they have the j2re1.4.0_03 and the jre6 inside
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#1184 [11:59] <SkiingPenguins> froglegstew i do not know how to help you any more
#1185 [12:00] <froglegstew> okay, thanks you
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#1188 [12:06] <ArmEagle> i guess notch hasn't switched the logins to Amazon S3 yet?
#1189 [12:08] <alderin> Might be a DNS propagation problem.
#1190 [12:08] <ArmEagle> why would DNS suddenly fail if it worked just fine before?
#1191 [12:09] <ArmEagle> ok i know: computers
#1192 [12:09] <alderin> lol
#1193 [12:09] <ArmEagle> but i guess the server is messed up again
#1194 [12:09] <alderin> Honestly, it was just a guess.
#1195 [12:09] <alderin> But if there is server switching going on, I thought it could be a possibility.
#1196 [12:10] <ArmEagle> oh yeah, but i don't think notch is back yet
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#1198 [12:10] <ArmEagle> was just wondering whether the login had already moved yet
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#1200 [12:10] <alderin> Ah, I can't say.
#1201 [12:11] <alderin> I wish there were some sort of backup auth system, maybe a multiplayer-server distributed auth...
#1202 [12:12] <ArmEagle> oh there's a tweet.. looks like issues with the cloud (wrong name before, it's EC3)
#1203 [12:12] <ArmEagle> *EC2
#1204 [12:12] <alderin> Or at least a cache on the multiplayer server so you wouldn't have to re-auth with the mincraft.net server to play on your usual multiplayer server.
#1205 [12:13] <xales> The current issue is that the load balancers on the Amazon cloud can't actually handle the loa
#1206 [12:13] <ArmEagle> heh
#1207 [12:13] <xales> and so they go down, and need to be manually replaced
#1208 [12:14] <ArmEagle> I wish Mojang would have an official 'channel' for such info.
#1209 [12:14] <xales> They do
#1210 [12:14] <xales> http://twitter.com/mollstam
#1211 [12:14] <xales> :P
#1212 [12:15] <ArmEagle> well yes, but nowhere he actually says "oh hey, something is messed up meaning you cannot login right now. Will keep you posted"
#1213 [12:15] <mbentley> they really could use an official mojang blog or sorts. i remember seeeing something about it at some point
#1214 [12:16] <mbentley> *of sorts
#1215 [12:16] <ArmEagle> And it's that I understand the mumbo jumbo mollstam said in that tweet. But many people wouldn't have a clue
#1216 [12:18] <alderin> I agree there, I get it enough to know that there are no available connections, but people like my son would just tilt their head and say, "huh?"
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#1218 [12:20] * alderin notes these problems for his own eventual multiplayer game.
#1218 [12:24] <Marswipp> I cannot play Minecraft outside of a web browser. Error message: "Java Virtual Machine Launcher: Could not crate the Java virtual machine."
#1219 [12:26] <xales> Do you have any antivirus software running?
#1220 [12:27] <Taz605> wow that wasa lot of digging
#1221 [12:28] <Marswipp> I have the avast! AV, and I can whitelist the executable for Microsoft Security Essentials.
#1222 [12:28] <ArmEagle> ah there's mollstam's actual update
#1223 [12:28] <xales> Marswipp: How much RAM does the computer have?
#1224 [12:29] <Marswipp> Three gigs.
#1225 [12:29] <xales> Do you have any other programs open, when you try to launch Minecraft?
#1226 [12:30] <Marswipp> Mostly chat clients, and required system processes.
#1227 [12:31] <xales> Try it again, but immediately after rebooting with everything you can close, close
#1228 [12:31] <xales> d
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#1232 [12:34] <Sirgeneral94> server down?
#1233 [12:34] <mbentley> yes
#1234 [12:35] <Sirgeneral94> when rdy again?
#1235 [12:35] <mbentley> there is never an answer to that question
#1236 [12:35] <Sirgeneral94> know y?
#1237 [12:35] <mbentley> the load balancers are not able to handle the traffic
#1238 [12:35] <Sirgeneral94> hm
#1239 [12:36] <Sirgeneral94> loging is aviable, but connect to server isn't
#1240 [12:36] <Marswipp> xales, I closed two of my chat clients, and Minecraft.exe started working.
#1241 [12:36] <xales> Marswipp: \o/
#1242 [12:36] <Sirgeneral94> loging is not the prob, but connecting to server
#1243 [12:36] <mbentley> right
#1244 [12:37] <Sirgeneral94> 1 time it worked, but had spawn bug....
#1245 [12:37] <Sirgeneral94> crap
#1246 [12:41] <Sirgeneral94> -.-*
#1247 [12:46] <Sirgeneral94> just connected.......
#1248 [12:46] <Sirgeneral94> ......but had spawnbug again
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#1250 [12:47] <fatalpop> is the 30 day refund policy still there?
#1251 [12:47] <xales> There was a 30 day refund policy?
#1252 [12:48] <xales> I'm fairly sure it is 1 week, and only if the game doesn't work
#1253 [12:48] <randomuser> interesting, lava will not flow through a half block gap above a stone slab
#1254 [12:48] <fatalpop> I google searched it and found a post on the forums saying it was 30 days
#1255 [12:49] <xales> Was the post by a Mojang employee?
#1256 [12:49] <fatalpop> no but it did confirm that the refund was real
#1257 [12:49] <Elvang> randomuser: You mean like this? http://i56.tinypic.com/2d7ddfs.png
#1258 [12:50] <xales> There is nothing mentioning a 30-day refund policy.
#1259 [12:50] <fatalpop> Q: How do I request a refund?
#1260 [12:50] <fatalpop> A: You can request a refund for any reason within one month of buying the game by sending an email to payment@mojang.com. Please put "refund" in the subject line so I can find it. Make sure to include the original transaction id from the receipt email you got from paypal, and what username you're using.
#1261 [12:51] <xales> Is that from minecraft.net?
#1262 [12:51] <xales> Last I saw it, it said 7 day
#1263 [12:51] <fatalpop> minecraftforum.net
#1264 [12:51] <spiity> why would anyone a refund
#1265 [12:51] <spiity> want*
#1266 [12:51] <fatalpop> regardless I did request a refund the day after i got the game
#1267 [12:52] <fatalpop> and never got anything back
#1268 [12:52] <xales> minecraft.net says "If you can't get the game to run, you can request a refund within one week of purchasing the game. "
#1269 [12:52] <xales> that is all that is officially said about refunds
#1270 [12:52] <randomuser> Elvang, no, i have a column of glass blocks holding in a body of lava, broke out the bottom block and replaced it with a half-height stone floor tile
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#1274 [13:03] <Taz605> my internet died :(
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#1279 [13:13] <statik> My linux client is locking up when trying to join the server, reinstall?
#1280 [13:13] <xales> What distro?
#1281 [13:13] <statik> ubuntu
#1282 [13:13] <statik> it just started
#1283 [13:13] <xales> uhh, reinstall then
#1284 [13:13] <statik> yeah
#1285 [13:13] <statik> grrr
#1286 [13:14] <statik> I has been fine all day then it started to lock up on me when i disconnected and rejoined.
#1287 [13:16] <ArmEagle> euh, why try a reinstall if minecraft.net is known to have issues and might only just be recovering?
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#1289 [13:19] <Watcher> are the servers down ?
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#1291 [13:19] <xales> Intermittantly
#1292 [13:19] <Watcher> cant seem to log in to my account ?
#1293 [13:19] <ConMan8> There used to be only one server but people still said it plural
#1294 [13:20] <ZawyeR> Hi! Got some problem with being able to build/destroy something on a friends server. Anyone who can help?:) Will give more detailed information in a personal chat window :)
#1295 [13:20] <xales> ZawyeR: Move away from the spawn
#1296 [13:20] <Watcher> hehe
#1297 [13:21] <ZawyeR> well, lets say: player 1 is the admin, and can do whatever he wants (obviously), player 2 just joined as I did and can both build and remove blocks. While I cant do neither :\
#1298 [13:22] <xales> Is the server running any plugins?
#1299 [13:22] <ZawyeR> nope
#1300 [13:22] <xales> Have you tried moving a good distance away from the spawn?
#1301 [13:22] <ZawyeR> can try
#1302 [13:22] <ZawyeR> LOL
#1303 [13:22] <ZawyeR> works
#1304 [13:22] <ZawyeR> :P
#1305 [13:23] <ZawyeR> thanks ^^,
#1306 [13:23] <xales> No problem
#1307 [13:23] <Watcher> is any one else having trouble login in to the minecraft.net site?
#1308 [13:23] <xales> The site is having some issues
#1309 [13:24] <xales> Just wait
#1310 [13:24] <Watcher> ok guess ill have to wait
#1311 [13:24] <Watcher> ty
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#1317 [13:32] <Ikikay> Hello, I have got a problem, My friend have got same problem, we can't conect to minecraft.net our to conecting in game, have you got a solution?
#1318 [13:33] <izzd> try another game
#1319 [13:33] <xales> Minecraft.net isn't working
#1320 [13:33] <xales> Keep trying, or wait a short while and try again
#1321 [13:33] <Ikikay> Ok, so have just to wait ?
#1322 [13:33] <xales> Yes
#1323 [13:33] <Ikikay> is not just us? it's everybody ?
#1324 [13:34] <izzd> whens this going to settle down and work more often?
#1325 [13:34] <LordEddi> When its out of beta.
#1326 [13:34] <xales> Yes, it is everybody
#1327 [13:34] <xales> izzd: When they move to a better cloud provider (Rackspace)
#1328 [13:34] <qable> seems to be down
#1329 [13:34] <izzd> they just moved didn't they?
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#1331 [13:35] <Ikikay> they are crash or something ?
#1332 [13:35] <xales> The current setup can't handle the number of people trying to log in
#1333 [13:35] <xales> so they have to move to a different cloud solution that will allow them to handle the number of people at once
#1334 [13:36] <Ikikay> ok... with 1.2 million buy, can't buy a good servers for the game ... o_o?
#1335 [13:36] <xales> One server couldn't handle the number of people
#1336 [13:36] <Sinnersaix> so thats why i cant loggin atm?
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#1338 [13:36] <Ikikay> But it's ok, if it's just a problem to minecraft and not my computer :)
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#1340 [13:37] <xales> They are using many servers, but the load balancer is not able to keep up, and they can only use one with the current cloud provider
#1341 [13:38] <Oerg866> uh
#1342 [13:38] <Oerg866> i cannot join my server anymore what
#1343 [13:39] <xales> ._.
#1344 [13:39] <xales> minecraft.net is down
#1345 [13:39] <xales> just wait
#1346 [13:39] <Oerg866> why do I need minecraft.net to join a server thats in my LAN anyway
#1347 [13:39] <Ikikay> 'caus you need
#1348 [13:39] <Ikikay> to login
#1349 [13:39] <Ikikay> before login your server
#1350 [13:39] <Oerg866> that's fucking bullshit eeeeeeeeeeh.
#1351 [13:39] <Oerg866> i am logged in all the time
#1352 [13:39] <xales> Not to minecraft
#1353 [13:39] <Ikikay> Just keep waiting like us :)
#1354 [13:39] <Oerg866> i didnt close the executable since I last played on my server
#1355 [13:40] <xales> Doesn't matter
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#1357 [13:40] <Oerg866> but why would notch program it that way
#1358 [13:40] <xales> That is how all games work
#1359 [13:40] <Oerg866> that's just... bullshite
#1360 [13:40] <Ikikay> minecraft must look if you have buy the game,
#1361 [13:40] <ConMan8> If you set offline-mode to false in the server properties you don't need to auth
#1362 [13:40] <Watcher> for control
#1363 [13:40] <ConMan8> *true
#1364 [13:40] <Ikikay> so you must come to minecraft.net but minecraft.net is down
#1365 [13:40] <Oerg866> xales: LOL no I can disconnect my internet in any other game and connect to my LAN still
#1366 [13:40] <Ikikay> so you can't go in your server's to ;)
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#1368 [13:40] <Winner5740> I keep getting an internal client error. Is that a problem with my system and version of the game, or is this something out of my control?
#1369 [13:41] <xales> Winner5740: What error?
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#1371 [13:41] <xales> Oerg866: He needs to do it so he actually...you know, makes money
#1372 [13:41] <Oerg866> of course but I was already logged in
#1373 [13:41] <Oerg866> it already verified
#1374 [13:41] <ConMan8> Winner5740: put it on pastebin.com
#1375 [13:41] <LordEddi> You dont stay logged in.
#1376 [13:41] <xales> The server doesn't think so
#1377 [13:41] <LordEddi> Even if you dont shut down your client.
#1378 [13:41] <Oerg866> thats stupid then
#1379 [13:41] <LordEddi> Like everything, it has a sessiontimeout.
#1380 [13:42] <LordEddi> No. Its like that EVERYWHERE.
#1381 [13:42] <xales> No, it isn't
#1382 [13:42] <Oerg866> but I was playing all the time
#1383 [13:42] <ConMan8> It doesn't even have a session
#1384 [13:42] <Winner5740> Internal client error: java.net.ConnectException: connection timed out: connect
#1385 [13:42] <Oerg866> disconnected because i wanted to reboot the server
#1386 [13:42] <Oerg866> bam: failed
#1387 [13:42] <xales> if it wasn't, anyone could just connect to your server with any name they wanted, without owning the game
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#1389 [13:42] <xales> Winner5740: When do you get that?
#1390 [13:42] <ConMan8> Just sends some authentication to check updates and retrieves the skin when it needs
#1391 [13:42] <Oerg866> xales: No, I mean it should check that when you START the game, not when you connect a server
#1392 [13:42] <Winner5740> sometimes it gives me something with my user id and server id.
#1393 [13:43] <AsathorSey> Hello guys, is there any known problem with the minecraft login?
#1394 [13:43] <xales> AsathorSey: Yes, minecraft.net is down right now, just have to wait =/
#1395 [13:43] <xales> Oerg866: Correct. That would create the same exact problem.
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#1397 [13:43] <Ikikay> so have to go
#1398 [13:43] <Ikikay> thanks for answere
#1399 [13:43] <AsathorSey> oh, thanks
#1400 [13:43] <Ikikay> bye:)
#1401 [13:44] <statik> What is "Too many failed logins"?
#1402 [13:44] <Winner5740> it waits at the logging on screen, then either gives me a timed out error, or stops responding.
#1403 [13:45] <statik> !check
#1404 [13:45] <AsathorSey> ah cool, errormessage changed from "too many failed logins" to "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#1405 [13:45] <statik> yeah the server is up and down
#1406 [13:45] <xales> Winner5740: Logging in to a server, or to the client?
#1407 [13:45] <Winner5740> server.
#1408 [13:46] <AsathorSey> client
#1409 [13:46] <xales> The server is probably down, then, Winner5740
#1410 [13:46] <AsathorSey> first login screen
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#1412 [13:46] <Winner5740> argh.
#1413 [13:46] <statik> I got a local login now trying to get into the server
#1414 [13:46] <fisken> is minecraft.net down?
#1415 [13:46] <statik> .. took to long
#1416 [13:47] <AsathorSey> yep, fisken
#1417 [13:47] <fisken> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
#1418 [13:47] <AsathorSey> ^^"
#1419 [13:47] <Winner5740> is the connection to the server and minecraft.net two different entities, or is it that if minecraft.net is down, the servers can't work?
#1420 [13:47] <statik> This is so silly the server is on the same desk as the client and i can't login to it.
#1421 [13:47] <xales> Winner5740: If you get "timed out" when connecting to a server, then the server (not minecraft.net, but the one you are trying to connect to) is own
#1422 [13:47] <xales> down*
#1423 [13:48] <LordEddi> When you login to a server, it checks your account up against minecraft.net.
#1424 [13:48] <Winner5740> ok. Thanks.
#1425 [13:48] <Winner5740> ah, that would make sense LordEddi
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#1427 [13:49] <AsathorSey> login works :-D
#1428 [13:49] <AsathorSey> cya
#1429 [13:49] <statik> I hope they make a lan option that allows you to connect to the same subnet with just a local login.
#1430 [13:49] <LordEddi> statik: You can.
#1431 [13:49] <LordEddi> Change online-mode=true to online-mode=false in your server properties file.
#1432 [13:50] <statik> Nice I will give that a go thank you.
#1433 [13:50] <AsathorSey> i think he means, that you dont need to login online in the client
#1434 [13:50] <LordEddi> Well, with that set, you dont even have to login to the client. You can basicly just select Play Offline.
#1435 [13:50] <AsathorSey> or... i wish to have such an option ^^
#1436 [13:50] <LordEddi> And still get onto the server.
#1437 [13:50] <AsathorSey> hm
#1438 [13:51] <AsathorSey> never tryed, my pc is online everytime ^^" so, but now i go build something :-D cya
#1439 [13:51] <statik> I play on the lan with my son, the server is open but no one has ever joined
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#1441 [13:52] <Oerg866> wait a sec
#1442 [13:52] <Oerg866> minecraft.net isnt down
#1443 [13:52] <LordEddi> Its up and down.
#1444 [13:52] <Oerg866> but i still cannot connect to my server
#1445 [13:52] <Oerg866> ._.
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#1447 [13:53] <Oerg866> 2011-02-05 19:52:46 [INFO] /192.168.178.50:3112 lost connection
#1448 [13:53] <Oerg866> FUUUUUUUUUUUU
#1449 [13:53] <statik> right
#1450 [13:53] <statik> I have the same issue
#1451 [13:54] <Oerg866> Dear Mojang
#1452 [13:54] <xales> Restart server
#1453 [13:54] <statik> It's just timing out.
#1454 [13:54] <Oerg866> GET A DECENT HOST YOU MORON
#1455 [13:54] <LordEddi> ...
#1456 [13:54] <LordEddi> Go take some chillpills.
#1457 [13:54] <Oerg866> well no it just pisses me off that I cannot play a game I should be able to play but due to faggotry of the developers can not
#1458 [13:54] <LordEddi> And go take a look at the definition of a beta.
#1459 [13:54] <statik> It's BETA for a reason
#1460 [13:54] <Oerg866> a beta = unfinished but functional and playable with bugs
#1461 [13:55] <Oerg866> and right now it's neitehr
#1462 [13:55] * xales kicked Oerg866 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: It is called a 4BETA. This isn't the rage channel.)
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#1464 [13:55] <statik> W00T
#1465 [13:55] <Oerg866> xales is a moron confirmed
#1466 [13:55] * xales kicked Oerg866 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Have a nice life!)
#1467 [13:55] <fogWraith> xales <3
#1468 [13:55] <statik> I smell a ban coming on.
#1469 [13:55] <xales> Smart people are smart
#1470 [13:56] <xales> statik: I just banned him
#1471 [13:56] <Ruggsy> lmao
#1472 [13:56] <statik> Good
#1473 [13:56] <LordEddi> Thank god, you saved me from going on a nerdrage there xales.
#1474 [13:56] <LordEddi> >.>
#1475 [13:56] <Winner5740> what's this error mean? (It's really long)
#1476 [13:56] <LordEddi> And that usually isnt all that pretty.
#1477 [13:56] <xales> Winner5740: Use pastebin.com
#1478 [13:56] <xales> don't paste it here
#1479 [13:56] <xales> I recall him being banned here before, actually =/
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#1482 [13:58] <Ruggsy> oh yea i cant go on
#1483 [13:58] <Ruggsy> i was going to post the error i was getting
#1484 [13:58] <statik> I guess we will see if he goes through the effort of changing his mac again then
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#1486 [13:59] <[IC]X-Fighter> hey there, can anyone tell me how to make the 5-clock 3times faster?
#1487 [13:59] <Ruggsy> time machine
#1488 [13:59] <xales> There isn't a way
#1489 [14:00] <[IC]X-Fighter> hmm
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#1491 [14:00] <Ruggsy> im sure there is some kind of drug that could make it seem faster
#1492 [14:01] <[IC]X-Fighter> i wanna make a song with the noteboxes, and in many yt videos there are songs faster then the clock
#1493 [14:01] <xales> They wouldn't be using just one clock then
#1494 [14:02] <Winner5740> this is the other type of error I"m getting
#1495 [14:02] <Winner5740> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Qg4KTxi8
#1496 [14:02] <xales> That basically means the same thing
#1497 [14:02] <[IC]X-Fighter> yeah thought the same first, but when i build 2 clocks there is no connection between them
#1498 [14:02] <Winner5740> so, the server's screwed up and I can't do a thing about it?
#1499 [14:02] <xales> Ohter than wait, nope
#1500 [14:03] <ssen> I thought Notch's server migration would have handled this issue already...perhaps he is doing some server modification?
#1501 [14:04] <ssen> Fingers crossed that he's adding something cool.
#1502 [14:04] <ConMan8> [IC]X-Fighter: You can make a rapid pulsar if you want speed
#1503 [14:04] <LordEddi> Notch is on vacation.
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#1505 [14:04] <ConMan8> For a relative's birthday
#1506 [14:04] <xales> ssen: The Amazon Cloud can't support the type of setup they are using, and the load it requires
#1507 [14:04] <[IC]X-Fighter> i saw that, but arent they a bit to fast for bethovens 5.?
#1508 [14:04] <xales> they have to move to another provider
#1509 [14:04] <[IC]X-Fighter> ^^
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#1511 [14:04] <ssen> but the whole point of the cloud...
#1512 [14:05] <ConMan8> lol, nothing can support Minecraft
#1513 [14:05] <ssen> is to give a relatively unlimited amount of resources to a growing load
#1514 [14:05] <xales> The load balancers aren't part of the cloud
#1515 [14:05] <xales> which is the issue
#1516 [14:05] <ssen> I see.
#1517 [14:05] <xales> They are moving to a different provider which does allow for load balancers to be "cloud" balancers
#1518 [14:06] <LordEddi> I find it weird that amazon didnt do that :(
#1519 [14:07] <ssen> ^
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#1522 [14:10] <fisken> can anyone here help me to figure out why minecraft lags so much for me?
#1523 [14:11] <xales> In singleplayer?
#1524 [14:11] <fisken> no, basically just in other peoples servers
#1525 [14:12] <xales> That is either lag on their server, or network lag
#1526 [14:12] <Diablothein> ...
#1527 [14:12] <Diablothein> sonofabitch.
#1528 [14:12] <Diablothein> Power outage, world deleted.
#1529 [14:12] <fisken> well no one else in the server seems to lag
#1530 [14:12] <fisken> and when i mean lag, i mean, almost unable to move
#1531 [14:12] <xales> fisken: http://speedtest.net/
#1532 [14:12] <xales> Diablothein: Open with MCEdit, re-save it
#1533 [14:13] <Diablothein> <-- Linux.
#1534 [14:13] <ConMan8> If it doesn't lag in singleplayer it's connection-based for sure
#1535 [14:13] <Diablothein> Also, completely deleted, I went to check in the minecraft directory, it's not there.
#1536 [14:13] <Diablothein> ...
#1537 [14:13] <Diablothein> I quit.
#1538 [14:13] <ConMan8> or at least the server
#1539 [14:13] <ConMan8> Diablothein: That's why people like SMP
#1540 [14:13] <xales> :o
#1541 [14:13] <Diablothein> ConMan8, Well, I don't.
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#1543 [14:14] <xales> were you using rsync to load it into a ramdisk or something?
#1544 [14:14] <Diablothein> Every server I joined, it's way too built up for me to do anything.
#1545 [14:14] <ConMan8> Whenever I start a world I generate it and quit, then go back into it
#1546 [14:14] <Diablothein> xales, too late, I quit.
#1547 [14:15] <fisken> xales: 17mb/s down, 0.42mb/s up
#1548 [14:16] <xales> Do you have anything else open with Minecraft?
#1549 [14:16] <fisken> no
#1550 [14:17] <fisken> i'm using ubuntu, is that significant at all?
#1551 [14:17] <xales> probably not
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#1553 [14:21] <fisken> xales: is my connection bad?
#1554 [14:21] <xales> It should be fine, as long as nobody else is using the internet at the time
#1555 [14:22] <xales> Try holding down F3 while it is laggy, and look a the FPS
#1556 [14:22] <fisken> xales: oh yea, that reminds me, when i hold down F3, two weird red bars start filling up the screen so i can't even see what it says
#1557 [14:23] <xales> ah, then that is a client issue
#1558 [14:23] <xales> single-player isn't laggy though?
#1559 [14:23] <fisken> it's not amazing, but it's certainly playable
#1560 [14:24] <fisken> what does it mean that it's a client issue?
#1561 [14:24] <xales> The problem is with your computer
#1562 [14:24] <Ojeu> How difficult would it be for a regular Joe to change/add a new lever (bookcase/torch lever) to the game?
#1563 [14:25] <fisken> is there anything i can do about it?
#1564 [14:25] <genshou> Ojeu, you'd be better off asking in #Risucraft or on the modding subsection of the forums
#1565 [14:25] <xales> Ojeu: Very
#1566 [14:25] <Ojeu> Will do. :)
#1567 [14:25] <xales> fisken: Look at resource usage while it is running
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#1569 [14:25] <Ojeu> xales: Swell! I guess not then. :)
#1570 [14:26] <xales> Ojeu: If you don't know any programming, it wouldn't really be possible =/
#1571 [14:26] <Ojeu> I know my basic php, but've never worked with java.
#1572 [14:27] <xales> I'd suggest asking #risucraft then
#1573 [14:27] <xales> if you know even a minimal amount, it should be possible for them to at least help you do it
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#1576 [14:33] <digit01> Hello
#1577 [14:33] <xales> hello
#1578 [14:34] <digit01> Using latest MC client on Linux. Was working fine, but when i log on I got an error "too many log on attempts" and now I just get a login failed. What can be causing this?
#1579 [14:34] <xales> Minecraft.net is down, just gotta wait or keep trying
#1580 [14:35] <digit01> Oh ok.
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#1582 [14:36] <Pixou> Hello
#1583 [14:36] <Kealper> ello
#1584 [14:37] <Kealper> and awesome....i invented the wheel a few hours ago on irpg
#1585 [14:37] <xales> lol
#1586 [14:37] <Kealper> and it leveled me lol
#1587 [14:37] <Kealper> 27 now :O
#1588 [14:37] <fisken> xales: i think it might be my gpu
#1589 [14:37] <xales> fisken: If it is, I think it would lag on singleplayer as well...what model is it?
#1590 [14:38] <Pixou> I have a little question : Why is it hard to survive in Minecraft ? Does the monsters attack your home the night ?
#1591 [14:38] <xales> !tutorial
#1592 [14:38] <xales> watch video
#1593 [14:38] <fisken> i don't know anything about gpu, but i believe it's a intel corporation n10 family integrated graphics controller?? no idea
#1594 [14:38] <LordEddi> Hm, one of my players keep struggling with lag. Tried reinstalling MC, reinstalling java, changed server location with no difference. Any of you have any tips?
#1595 [14:39] <xales> fisken: Yeah..that would be the issue
#1596 [14:39] <xales> LordEddi: Is it just on your server? Or others/singleplayer as well?
#1597 [14:39] <LordEddi> No lag in singleplayer, but lag in general on multiplayer.
#1598 [14:39] <xales> That would be his connection speed, most likely
#1599 [14:40] <LordEddi> But when we do a speedtest when the lag is on, it basicly shows that he is getting his fullwhack.
#1600 [14:40] <fisken> xales: is there anything i can do? what exactly is the issue? sorry if i'm being a pain
#1601 [14:40] <LordEddi> You shouldnt need to forward any ports for playing, no?
#1602 [14:40] <xales> fisken: one sec
#1603 [14:40] <fisken> k
#1604 [14:40] <xales> LordEddi: Nope, that wouldn't create lag
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#1606 [14:40] <xales> The issue is networking, for sure
#1607 [14:40] <LordEddi> Hm.
#1608 [14:41] <xales> What is his ping time to your server?
#1609 [14:41] <xales> fisken: I think it is just too old/not even designed for gaming
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#1611 [14:42] <fisken> well fuck
#1612 [14:42] <LordEddi> 45 ms to the server I host on my own computer (norway), 60 ms according to F3 in his client when on the multiplay server (london)
#1613 [14:43] <LordEddi> He lives in the UK.
#1614 [14:43] <LordEddi> And about 50-60 on the server in amsterdam
#1615 [14:43] <xales> Is he on wifi?
#1616 [14:43] <LordEddi> No.
#1617 [14:43] <LordEddi> Thats the first thing I asked aswell ^^
#1618 [14:44] <xales> what is his connection speed?
#1619 [14:44] <LordEddi> 3,5mbit/0.5 mbit up
#1620 [14:44] <LordEddi> We have another UK player with even lower than that.
#1621 [14:44] <LordEddi> (which I keep laughing at I might add xD)
#1622 [14:44] <LordEddi> And it works fine for him
#1623 [14:45] <xales> Does he have anyone else using the internet where he is, or any other programs running at all?
#1624 [14:45] <LordEddi> Teamspeak is running, noone else using the internet.
#1625 [14:45] <xales> Teamspeak...
#1626 [14:45] <xales> close it
#1627 [14:46] <xales> try again
#1628 [14:46] <LordEddi> Tried that aswell, no difference.
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#1630 [14:47] <xales> Is his framerate low (under 40) when playing multiplayer?
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#1632 [14:47] <Morty> Hey guys.
#1633 [14:47] <LordEddi> 110 FPS with frame rate locked
#1634 [14:47] <Dominus> Bonjour
#1635 [14:47] <xales> hello
#1636 [14:47] <LordEddi> 500+ with frame rate lock off.
#1637 [14:48] <Morty> My keyboard won't work when I try to enter a server name. Anyone had this problem feel like helping me? :)
#1638 [14:48] <xales> LordEddi: Have him try reinstalling Minecraft (deleting the .minecraft/bin folder). Other than that, it is a networking issue
#1639 [14:48] <xales> Morty: On Windows?
#1640 [14:48] <Morty> It works in game, and I can backspace server names, but not type in new ones.
#1641 [14:48] <Morty> yeah, on Windows.
#1642 [14:48] <Morty> XP.
#1643 [14:48] <Morty> If that makes a difference.
#1644 [14:48] <Pixou> I watched the video, but it did explain if the monsters attack your home at night
#1645 [14:49] <LordEddi> Yeah, done that before aswell. But Ill give it another go.
#1646 [14:49] <LordEddi> next up, a reinstall of his whole system.
#1647 [14:49] <xales> Pixou: If you are in a proper home, you are safe. But if you leave at night, you will get attacked
#1648 [14:49] <Pixou> Ok
#1649 [14:49] <xales> Morty: Do you have all updates for Windows installed, as well as Java?
#1650 [14:49] <Morty> Im not notified of any updates for either.
#1651 [14:49] <Morty> I'll check. Hold on.
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#1653 [14:50] <Pixou> So why it's hard ? If I make a single hole and close it, i'm safe
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#1655 [14:50] <xales> The game isn't just about surviving the nights
#1656 [14:51] <ayak> Hello, i have a problem, in mincraft, i can't drop a cobblestone and other ore :/
#1657 [14:51] <xales> its also about exploring caves, gathering mateials, etc
#1658 [14:51] <xales> ayak: In Multipalyer?
#1659 [14:51] <xales> player*
#1660 [14:51] <ayak> solo
#1661 [14:51] <ayak> i don't try multiplayer
#1662 [14:51] <xales> What do you mean 'drop'?
#1663 [14:51] <Pixou> Ok, it's more a construction game than a survival one
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#1665 [14:51] <xales> Pixou: It is a bit of both.
#1666 [14:52] <Pixou> thank you
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#1668 [14:52] <Andersdk> hey... I got at problem with my minecraft... Every time i'm trying to start playing it is closing down after 10 - 30 sec... What can i do? I have tryed reinstall minecraft and java..
#1669 [14:52] <ayak> I can't receive when i break a block
#1670 [14:52] <xales> Andersdk: Is there a crash report?
#1671 [14:52] <xales> ayak: Are you using the correct tool for the block?
#1672 [14:53] <ayak> hum, not ^^'
#1673 [14:53] <Andersdk> java has stoped working
#1674 [14:53] <ayak> i try this, sry :/
#1675 [14:54] <xales> Andersdk: Specs of computer?
#1676 [14:54] <ayak> Tank you xales
#1677 [14:55] <Pixou> does the free multiplayer version work ?
#1678 [14:55] <Pixou> Because, when I click, a white page appearse
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#1680 [14:56] <Andersdk> ??
#1681 [14:56] <Ruggsy> xales
#1682 [14:56] <Ruggsy> http://pastebin.com/xE10uJMs
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#1684 [14:56] <Ruggsy> :(
#1685 [14:56] <starkyy> The servers are down or something? i cant connect on my own server today
#1686 [14:56] <Ruggsy> ive been getting this for like 2 days
#1687 [14:57] <Morty> OK, just checked, my computer doesnt need any updates, and my java doesnt either. I have no prompts for either.
#1688 [14:57] <darkpara> i'm new in minecraft, just are the problems with the servers like this weekend, all weekends or is this a exeption?
#1689 [14:57] <xales> starkyy: yup
#1690 [14:57] <Morty> Checking Java twiceover.
#1691 [14:57] <xales> darkpara: there have been some issues with the servers lately, but they are getting fixed
#1692 [14:58] <xales> Ruggsy: one sec
#1693 [14:58] <Andersdk> Xales. I dont know what you meen about what spec my computer is.
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#1695 [14:58] <Ruggsy> np
#1696 [14:58] <greken> hi
#1697 [14:58] <Pixou> Ok thanks for the answer :)
#1698 [14:58] <greken> is this the MC help place?
#1699 [14:58] <xales> Ruggsy: It is a problem with the mods you have loaed
#1700 [14:58] <xales> greken: Yes
#1701 [14:58] <Ruggsy> oh ok
#1702 [14:58] <greken> okey in have a question.
#1703 [14:58] <xales> ask the question
#1704 [14:58] <greken> my mate just bought the game and now he cant log in
#1705 [14:58] <xales> Andersdk: Are you using XP or 7?
#1706 [14:58] <greken> how long will it take for validation
#1707 [14:58] <Andersdk> 7
#1708 [14:58] <xales> greken: The server is down, it will take a short while before he can log in
#1709 [14:59] <greken> since he saw the money got draged from his account
#1710 [14:59] <Ruggsy> I think the problem is that i picked up something i wasnt supposed to
#1711 [14:59] <greken> well i can log in.
#1712 [14:59] <Ruggsy> if i unload the mod and join and then reload it will that fix it?
#1713 [15:00] <xales> Andersdk: Start->in search box type 'dxdiag' and hit enter->click yes to the WHQL thing if it asks->click 'save to file'->save on desktop->open file->copy contents of file, paste on pastebin.com->paste link that pastebin.com sends you to
#1714 [15:00] <xales> greken: It is only not working for some people He must wait
#1715 [15:00] <greken> okey
#1716 [15:00] <xales> Ruggsy: Possibly? I don't know
#1717 [15:00] <Ruggsy> lol
#1718 [15:00] <Ruggsy> ok :D
#1719 [15:00] <Ruggsy> ill try it
#1720 [15:00] <greken> but he should be able to log in right after he bought it or?
#1721 [15:00] <SkiingPenguins> xales that dxddiag really should be in aubot
#1722 [15:00] <xales> greken: Depends on how he bought it and when
#1723 [15:01] <greken> when he is logging in it says not premium etc
#1724 [15:01] <greken> visa card he used
#1725 [15:01] <xales> he just needs to wait
#1726 [15:01] <Kealper> rawr
#1727 [15:01] <greken> okey =)
#1728 [15:01] <Kealper> wow....busy day
#1729 [15:01] <Taz605> i'm glad i got my friend to but this
#1730 [15:02] <Taz605> i now need to find a server :\
#1731 [15:02] <xales> Kealper, did that oerg666 guy get banned before?
#1732 [15:02] <xales> I seem to recall him being banned previously
#1733 [15:02] <Kealper> i do remember that name, yes
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#1735 [15:03] <Kealper> and i do remember something bad about it, so he was probably banned for something
#1736 [15:03] <xales> well, he is permab& now
#1737 [15:03] <Kealper> what'd he do?
#1738 [15:03] <xales> sec
#1739 [15:03] <Andersdk> Xales: here it is http://pastebin.com/8p7cymEg
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#1741 [15:04] <Morty> OK yeah, no problems with Java or Windows...
#1742 [15:04] <xales> Kealper: http://xales.pastebin.com/jNeguyh6
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#1745 [15:04] <mib_4kz77x> are servers down or something
#1746 [15:04] <Kealper> brb.....my dog wants something -.-
#1747 [15:04] <Ruggsy> i think i might have fixed it because now im just getting 503
#1748 [15:04] <Ruggsy> brb
#1749 [15:05] <Watcher> hope they hurry up i need my minecraft fix
#1750 [15:05] <xales> mib_4kz77x: yes
#1751 [15:05] <Auly> Hello all
#1752 [15:05] <mib_4kz77x> till when?
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#1754 [15:05] <Taz605> till it gets fixed
#1755 [15:06] <xales> mib_4kz77x: Until they get fixed
#1756 [15:06] <xales> Andersdk: The crash is immediately after logging in?
#1757 [15:06] <Andersdk> 10 - 30 sec after.
#1758 [15:07] <Kealper> ok back and wow....my sister just got two diamond earrings (one for each ear)...and they eat have a 1kt diamond on them lol
#1759 [15:07] <Andersdk> lucky her
#1760 [15:07] <xales> Andersdk: try this
#1761 [15:07] <xales> !reinstall
#1762 [15:07] <Andersdk> i have allready done that Xales
#1763 [15:08] <Taz605> that AuBot is cool :P
#1764 [15:08] <xales> Andersdk: Are you sure there isn't a crash report?
#1765 [15:09] <Kealper> xales: did you get around to making that program that would run the jar with it's stdout hooked and then either safe it to a file or pastebin it?
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#1767 [15:09] <xales> Kealper: Not yet
#1768 [15:09] <greken> it keeps say "user not premium"
#1769 [15:09] <greken> when he tries to log in
#1770 [15:09] <Kealper> and wow....that oerg866 guy is a penis....
#1771 [15:09] <Auly> hey I've got a LAN server running that my roommates setup and for some reason I can't so anything once I connect to it can anyone help me please?
#1772 [15:09] <xales> greken: As I said, he needs to wait
#1773 [15:10] <xales> Auly: Move away from spawn
#1774 [15:10] <Kealper> greken: it could take up to a day to process the payment and mark him as paid :/
#1775 [15:10] <Auly> I have and I can move all over just can't dig, build, close doors..
#1776 [15:11] <Kealper> they are working on implementing Paypal's instant processing thing, so eventually that should not be a problem :/
#1777 [15:11] <Auly> interact with anything built.
#1778 [15:11] <Taz605> yae your too near the spaen auly
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#1780 [15:11] <xales> Auly: Talk to your roomate then
#1781 [15:11] <Postoffice> i have setup a server but, i cant log in, like i just fuckings logged in, and then i accedently closed it, and no i'm getting "internat client error"...
#1782 [15:11] <xales> he is probably using a mod that prevents you from doing that
#1783 [15:11] <xales> Postoffice: What specifically is the error
#1784 [15:12] <Auly> xales: I asked and was told there isn't any mods on the server.
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#1786 [15:12] <Postoffice> it's not saying anything else.. thats whats bugging me..
#1787 [15:12] <xales> Auly: Are you sure you have moved far away from the spawn?
#1788 [15:12] <Kealper> Auly: ypu are 100% positive you are more than 16 blocks away from the spawn?
#1789 [15:12] <Auly> yes
#1790 [15:12] <Kealper> ninja'd -.-
#1791 [15:12] <xales> Auly: How far?
#1792 [15:12] <greken> so what u say is that he could pay today and his money is removed from account but his validation would take more than a day?
#1793 [15:12] <Auly> I've moved 100's of blocks away
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#1795 [15:12] <greken> if thats the case i understand..
#1796 [15:12] <xales> greken: Yes
#1797 [15:13] <greken> allright
#1798 [15:13] <Jedcat> Hello и здрасте!
#1799 [15:13] <xales> Jedcat: hello
#1800 [15:13] <Auly> I've checked my framerates, ping to the server, and all
#1801 [15:13] <xales> Auly: Have him op you on the server
#1802 [15:13] <Jedcat> Do you know, how to make a minecart booster without mods? Thank you for the answer.
#1803 [15:13] <Kealper> i need to find a way to switch the character set for my putty to the ascii irc-hybrid one
#1804 [15:14] <xales> Jedcat: You don't need mods to make a booster. http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecart_Booster
#1805 [15:14] <Auly> the only thing I can see is that the chunk updates that display when holding F3 just everntually drop to 0 from 300ish.
#1806 [15:14] <Postoffice> now i'm getting "took to long to long to log in"
#1807 [15:14] <Auly> xales: tried that no go
#1808 [15:14] <xales> Postoffice: That is because minecraft.net is having some issues, just gotta wait
#1809 [15:14] <Jedcat> oh, forgive me for not reading wiki carefully.
#1810 [15:14] <xales> Auly: Are you the only one who can't interact with things?
#1811 [15:14] <Jedcat> Thank you!
#1812 [15:15] <Postoffice> ah, that migth explain it xD
#1813 [15:15] <Auly> xales: yes
#1814 [15:15] <Jedcat> There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, or search the related logs.
#1815 [15:15] <Jedcat> o_O
#1816 [15:15] <Jedcat> omg?
#1817 [15:15] <xales> Jedcat: I may have linked to the wrong page
#1818 [15:15] <xales> just search for "booster"
#1819 [15:15] <spiity> serverworks
#1820 [15:15] <Auly> we had several people on it last night and was disappointed I couldn't join.
#1821 [15:15] <Jedcat> thanks!
#1822 [15:16] <xales> Auly: Do you have any mods on your client installed?
#1823 [15:16] <xales> and is he using the official server from minecraft.net?
#1824 [15:16] <Jedcat> I was googling throw the russian wiki)
#1825 [15:16] <Auly> xales: no matter a fact I even copied just the exe to a new folder and tried it again from there.
#1826 [15:16] <Kealper> Jedcat: if you want i can show you how to make a booster on my smp server
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#1828 [15:17] <xales> Auly: Copying the exe doesn't do anything on the client, try this.
#1829 [15:17] <Jedcat> <Kealper> I do, but i am not at my computer now)
#1830 [15:17] <xales> !reinstall
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#1832 [15:17] <Csmos> Grrrr all of a sudden, can't connect to localhost
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#1834 [15:17] <Kealper> Jedcat: oh lol
#1835 [15:17] <Dessos> Hello
#1836 [15:17] <xales> hello
#1837 [15:17] <Kealper> hello
#1838 [15:17] <Jedcat> hello
#1839 [15:17] <Csmos> c-c-c-combo breaker
#1840 [15:17] <Kealper> :O
#1841 [15:18] <Dessos> Can someone help me? With my Minecraft-Server?
#1842 [15:18] <Jedcat> :0
#1843 [15:18] <Kealper> Dessos: sure, what's the issue?
#1844 [15:18] <xales> Dessos: What is the problem?
#1845 [15:18] <Auly> ok I'll give it a go give me a couple minutes to try
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#1848 [15:18] <Csmos> Why do I keep getting "Connection Timed out" to my localhost server
#1849 [15:18] <xales> Csmos: Is the server running?
#1850 [15:18] <Csmos> Yes >.> lol
#1851 [15:18] <Kealper> Csmos: set online-mode to false in server.properties and restart your server
#1852 [15:19] <Kealper> oh
#1853 [15:19] <Kealper> also....
#1854 [15:19] <Dessos> i can join with local host
#1855 [15:19] <Kealper> make sure server-ip is blank in that config
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#1857 [15:19] <Csmos> Kealper: Worked, but odd.. I had it set to true before and was able to connect
#1858 [15:20] <Kealper> o.o
#1859 [15:20] <Andersdk> Xales: Sry i didnt answer, but my computer did almost freeze. There isent any crack report. It is saying java has stopped working and then my computer freeze for a time.
#1860 [15:20] <Jedcat> How to make minecart stack in the wall?
#1861 [15:20] <xales> Andersdk: Do you have any other programs running?
#1862 [15:20] <Jedcat> *in the block
#1863 [15:20] <Kealper> minecart stack?
#1864 [15:20] <Jedcat> ye, like in pictures
#1865 [15:20] <Kealper> not sure about that :/
#1866 [15:20] <Tanjoodo> Photoshop?
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#1868 [15:21] <Andersdk> steam and skype
#1869 [15:21] <Dessos> so
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#1871 [15:21] <xales> Andersdk: Close both, as well as any antivirus programs (disable them completely)
#1872 [15:21] <Dessos> My friends can not join on it
#1873 [15:21] <xales> Dessos: What IP does he try to use?
#1874 [15:22] <Dessos> Also,http://www.wieistmeineip.de/, and cmd/ipconfig
#1875 [15:23] <xales> What IP does he type in to try to join?
#1876 [15:23] <Postoffice> xales - i found the problem... i forgot to start the server....
#1877 [15:23] <Auly> Xales: did it no real change I lasted a little longer but still after 1-2 minutes still not able to do anything.
#1878 [15:23] <Kealper> XD
#1879 [15:23] <Dessos> either
#1880 [15:23] <Jedcat> so, another question
#1881 [15:23] <Dessos> But they get a message
#1882 [15:23] <Ruggsy> does Internal Client error: java.net.connectexception: connection timed out: connect
#1883 [15:23] <Kealper> Dessos: you did the correct port forwarding?
#1884 [15:23] <xales> Auly: Can other people see you moving around when you aren't able to do anything?
#1885 [15:23] <Ruggsy> have to do with the servers being down?
#1886 [15:23] <Ruggsy> or is that another problem
#1887 [15:24] <Auly> xales: no
#1888 [15:24] <Dessos> Failed to connect to the server Connection timed out: connect
#1889 [15:24] <Dessos> yes, Tcp and Udp port:25565
#1890 [15:24] <xales> Ruggsy: Connection timed out doesn't sound like a minecraft.net issue
#1891 [15:24] <xales> Dessos: What IP does he try to use
#1892 [15:24] <Ruggsy> ok
#1893 [15:24] <Jedcat> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Two-way_manual-reset_booster.png <= if i do like that, and the main cart's road is cicled, will it boost alltime?
#1894 [15:24] <Auly> xales: to them my character appears to stutter and jump to places but that doesn't happen very often maybe 1-20 minutes.
#1895 [15:25] <Dessos> My cmd/ipconfig ip and my ip what the Http say
#1896 [15:25] <Kealper> Dessos: open server.properties, and set online-mode to false, save, restart the server.....i have seen that error message before on mine when it could not auth people
#1897 [15:25] <xales> Auly: The problem is with your connection to the server then, it is dropping packets from you
#1898 [15:25] <Kealper> if that doens't fix it, set it back to true
#1899 [15:25] <Dessos> but nothing works
#1900 [15:25] <xales> Auly: You should talk to your roommate about it
#1901 [15:25] <Auly> Xales: wierd it's gigabit eathernet from me to a switch then to the server.
#1902 [15:26] <xales> Auly: It could be any number of things, a bug, other programs, a firewall...
#1903 [15:26] <Kealper> what was Auly's problem?
#1904 [15:26] <Auly> checked system firewall, even shut it down and no change.
#1905 [15:26] <Kealper> just can't connect?
#1906 [15:26] <xales> Kealper: Can't do anything after a small amount of time
#1907 [15:27] <Kealper> that's weird
#1908 [15:27] <xales> which is aparrantly because of massive lag (other clients can't see him moving)
#1909 [15:27] <Auly> I connect just fine between 1-2 minutes later I can't interact with anything.
#1910 [15:27] <Kealper> Auly: do you eventually DC?
#1911 [15:27] <Auly> no
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#1913 [15:27] <XryanXcoreX> Hey guys when i host my server for my friends (This is just recent like this morning) It wont log me in or anyone it gets stuck at logging. Then i fixed by changing ips for sec and it worked but now it wont work again
#1914 [15:27] <XryanXcoreX> ?
#1915 [15:27] <Kealper> you stay connected, but you just can't do anything afterwards?
#1916 [15:27] <Auly> yes
#1917 [15:27] <XryanXcoreX> Oh soz
#1918 [15:27] <xales> XryanXcoreX: Minecraft.net is down, just need to wait
#1919 [15:27] <XryanXcoreX> O.o soz i didnt know ;p
#1920 [15:27] <XryanXcoreX> But ty
#1921 [15:28] <Auly> I've actually jumped around and down holes checking for dungeon areas and such for my friends because I can move just fine just can't interact with anything so no fall damage, no monster's come after me and such.
#1922 [15:28] <Dessos> can someone Try to join my server?
#1923 [15:29] <Dessos> 79.242.111.42
#1924 [15:29] <Auly> I can see them moving and doing things just fine as well
#1925 [15:29] <xales> Auly: The server seems to be ignoring packets from you then...which is very strange
#1926 [15:29] <xales> Auly: Do you get the same issue on other servers?
#1927 [15:29] <Elvang> Dessos: connection timed out
#1928 [15:29] <Dessos> :/
#1929 [15:30] <Auly> haven't tried any yet we just got this thursday night, friday morning.
#1930 [15:30] <Taz605> ai same
#1931 [15:30] <Kealper> Auly: try connecting to my server and see if it does that on there, too.... address is mc.kealper.com
#1932 [15:30] <xales> Dessos: Did you port forward correctly?
#1933 [15:30] <Auly> brt
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#1935 [15:30] <Dessos> 25565?
#1936 [15:30] <xales> .vprotect
#1937 [15:30] <MCHelpBot> Enabling voice protection
#1938 [15:30] <Taz605> why you got two bots here?
#1939 [15:31] <lukegb> 2 are better than 1
#1940 [15:31] <xales> Dessos: Can you take a screenshot of the port forward and upload it to imgur.com?
#1941 [15:31] <Csmos> I really wish betterlight worked with xray =/
#1942 [15:31] <xales> Taz605: Makes the notices stand out more
#1943 [15:31] <Taz605> ah
#1944 [15:31] <Taz605> ic
#1945 [15:31] <Dessos> i have a W503V Typ C ;)
#1946 [15:31] <xales> Dessos: Can you take a screenshot of where you made the port forward and upload it for us?
#1947 [15:32] <Dessos> yes, but its german
#1948 [15:32] <Taz605> and i'm guessing vprotect makes it that only +v upwards can use it
#1949 [15:32] <xales> Ok, do it anyway
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#1951 [15:32] <xales> Taz605: Nope, I'm too lazy to add another notice thing, so i just changed what it messages you
#1952 [15:32] <Taz605> lol
#1953 [15:32] <xales> vprotect requires people to message it something when they join to get voiced
#1954 [15:33] <xales> otherwise they can't talk
#1955 [15:33] <xales> I just removed the actual voicing and kept the noticing
#1956 [15:33] <Taz605> right
#1957 [15:34] <Kealper> Auly: getting the same issue?
#1958 [15:34] <Auly> yes
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#1960 [15:35] <xales> Auly: Do you have any firewall running on your computer?
#1961 [15:35] <Kealper> you were moving, but very laggily, are you connected to your friend's server over your internet connection too? or is that local?
#1962 [15:35] <Auly> my friends is local it's in the next room.
#1963 [15:36] <xales> what IP are you using to connect to it, Auly?
#1964 [15:36] <Auly> it's the local 192 IP
#1965 [15:36] <xales> That sounds like an issue with your computer or the routing then
#1966 [15:36] <Dessos> I do not know if it helps you further
#1967 [15:36] <Taz605> localhost auly?
#1968 [15:36] <Dessos> http://i56.tinypic.com/vo1nno.png
#1969 [15:36] <Auly> I assigned IP's to the computers for our home nettwork.
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#1971 [15:37] <Kealper> so you are using a 192.168 address to connect to it?
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#1973 [15:37] <xales> Auly: It sounds like a problem with your computer :(
#1974 [15:37] <OODavo> :)
#1975 [15:38] <Auly> for firewall I have CA's internet security suite and I made sure that minecraft was on the white list.
#1976 [15:38] <xales> Auly: Try completely shutting it off
#1977 [15:38] <Auly> and yes Kealper
#1978 [15:38] <Dessos> yes, and a other Ip to try
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#1980 [15:38] <xales> Dessos: Try waiting a day, see if it still happens.
#1981 [15:39] <Auly> Xales: tried disabling it can try to turn it off completely prefer not as it's my anti-virus too.
#1982 [15:39] <xales> Just do it for a minute, to check
#1983 [15:39] <xales> OODavo: Turn the fucking Eliza off >:(
#1984 [15:40] <Csmos> Anyone know how people get maps to have biomes in rings with like snow on the outer ring?
#1985 [15:40] <Dessos> I have make the server Yesterday, one of my friend was on the server... but now no one can join
#1986 [15:40] <xales> Dessos: You should wait because minecraft.net is down
#1987 [15:40] <Dessos> xD
#1988 [15:40] <Dessos> again?
#1989 [15:41] <Dessos> xD
#1990 [15:41] <xales> yes :(
#1991 [15:41] <Dessos> I like Minecraft :P
#1992 [15:41] <Auly> Xales: testing now.
#1993 [15:42] <Taz605> question
#1994 [15:42] <xales> ?
#1995 [15:43] <Taz605> if i make a server using wired do i need to prot forward?
#1996 [15:43] <Taz605> port*
#1997 [15:43] <xales> If you are behind a router, yes
#1998 [15:43] <Taz605> ok thanks
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#2001 [15:44] <Dessos> I use a website called http://www.wieistmeineip.de/ (What is my IP) is that IP correct?
#2002 [15:45] <xales> Dessos: The problem is likely minecraft.net
#2003 [15:45] <Taz605> check it with a an diffent ip fiinding site
#2004 [15:45] <xales> you should just wait 1 day to see if it is still there
#2005 [15:45] <Auly> xales: completely shutdown the processes for it and no change.
#2006 [15:46] <xales> Auly: Do you have any other programs open?
#2007 [15:46] <Dessos> :/
#2008 [15:46] <Auly> Chrome, vent
#2009 [15:46] <xales> Try closing both as well, and then try running it again
#2010 [15:46] <Auly> I will lose my connection here. so brb.
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#2013 [15:48] <Dessos> so i can join on my server
#2014 [15:49] <Elvang> How the heck do people get enough iron to make enough rails that minecarts are useful?
#2015 [15:49] <Csmos> Why can't I talk in #minecraft
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#2017 [15:50] <Ruggsy> your name isnt registered i guess
#2018 [15:50] <Elvang> Have to be registered IIRC
#2019 [15:50] <Csmos> oh
#2020 [15:50] <lemon-rev> elvang you can just use wood planks
#2021 [15:50] <Csmos> well anyways, I just got the worst spawn ever http://i.imgur.com/T71f7.png
#2022 [15:50] <Cambreaker> Does anyone know how long a server down typically lasts?
#2023 [15:50] <Dessos> xDDDDDDD
#2024 [15:50] <Elvang> Your graphics remind me of 007 :\
#2025 [15:50] <xales> hahaha
#2026 [15:50] <xales> nice spawn
#2027 [15:51] <Csmos> lol and its on smp so I cant even break these blocks
#2028 [15:51] <xales> Just op yourself
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#2030 [15:51] <Csmos> How do I do that?
#2031 [15:51] <Auly> Xales: no change.
#2032 [15:51] <izzd> remove dirt from above and jump over, easy
#2033 [15:51] <xales> Csmos: In the server console, "op (yourname)"
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#2035 [15:51] <xales> or add your name to ops.txt
#2036 [15:52] <Dessos> are the information correct? http://i51.tinypic.com/b3wv43.jpg
#2037 [15:52] <Csmos> Holy shit.. ok so I dig out, and as soon as I emerge, creeper waiting and blows up.. wtf worldgen
#2038 [15:52] <xales> Auly: It is a networking problem, for sure...is there a different place you can plug the computer in?
#2039 [15:52] <xales> Dessos: The problem is minecraft.net, you just need to wait
#2040 [15:53] <Dessos> oki
#2041 [15:53] <Auly> Xales: I could maybe switch ports, or change from the switch to the router.
#2042 [15:54] <xales> Try changing from the switch to the router
#2043 [15:54] <Auly> As it is the network is <Modem>--<Router> --- [switch]
#2044 [15:55] <Auly> with <router>--(printer and file server) & (Minecraft server)
#2045 [15:55] <Auly> [switch] -- All other desktops
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#2048 [15:56] <Auly> but I can try it
#2049 [15:56] <Auly> let's see if a port is open first.
#2050 [15:56] <Maxite> Yey. My question is answered.
#2051 [15:57] <Elvang> What do you guys usually use your diamonds on when you find them?
#2052 [15:58] <Maxite> Picks, shovels, and axes.
#2053 [15:58] <Maxite> And then armor.
#2054 [15:58] <Dessos> when I know that my server go?? I have no evidence for minecraft.net
#2055 [15:59] <Kealper> i usually try to get a diamond pickaxe as soon as i can, then i get a diamond sword
#2056 [15:59] <Taz605> ^
#2057 [15:59] <Kealper> what Dessos?
#2058 [15:59] <Dessos> xD
#2059 [15:59] <Dessos> whan i know that minecraft.net go?
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#2061 [16:00] <Kealper> uhm....only way to know is just to try and go to it or try to log in to your server every now and then
#2062 [16:00] <ArmEagle> sigh.. light intensity should benefit from diagonals..
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#2065 [16:01] <ArmEagle> you just get too much a penalty from putting up torches at 1 or 2 blocks away from the floor
#2066 [16:01] <lukenhaz> hey
#2067 [16:01] <lukenhaz> i need a help
#2068 [16:01] <xales> what do you need help with?
#2069 [16:02] <lukenhaz> I just bought 6 gift codes and I didnt receive it
#2070 [16:02] <Kealper> 6 O.o
#2071 [16:02] <lukenhaz> I bought by International Credit Card
#2072 [16:02] <Kealper> lukenhaz: when did you buy them?
#2073 [16:02] <lukenhaz> today
#2074 [16:02] <lukenhaz> 1 hour ago
#2075 [16:02] <Kealper> it could take a few hours for credit card payments to go through
#2076 [16:02] <lukenhaz> well i dont think so,http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=154094
#2077 [16:03] <lukenhaz> ppl are waiting for gift codes they paid for weeks for nothing comes
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#2079 [16:03] <Taz605> my friend had this
#2080 [16:03] <Taz605> just e-mail em
#2081 [16:03] <lukenhaz> i did
#2082 [16:03] <Taz605> give it abit to let them get back to you
#2083 [16:03] <Kealper> well, on average with credit cards, it will take a bit to process....so you should only start to worry if it has been over one day without getting them
#2084 [16:04] <Kealper> and you have checked on your profile page to see if they were there?
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#2086 [16:04] <lukenhaz> yep
#2087 [16:05] <lukenhaz> Change Your Skin You need to buy the game to be able to change your skin. To show this skin to someone, use this link. Change password Click here to change your password Gift codes Gift codes can be used to give the game away to other people. To give the game to another player, give them one of the unused codes and ask them to visit http://www.minecraft.net
#2088 [16:05] <lukenhaz> thats my "Profile"
#2089 [16:05] <lukenhaz> no "unused gift codes"
#2090 [16:05] <Kealper> hmm
#2091 [16:05] <Kealper> i'd just say wait a few more hours then, because the minecraft site was having issues earlier today
#2092 [16:06] <lukenhaz> hm
#2093 [16:06] <lukenhaz> I sent a e-mail to payment@mojang.com
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#2095 [16:06] <Kealper> that probably won't get a response back :/
#2096 [16:06] <lukenhaz> why ?
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#2098 [16:06] <lukenhaz> who should I e-mail to ?
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#2100 [16:07] <Kealper> well....if you are still having issues with that in a few hours, send an email to daniel@mojang.com
#2101 [16:07] <lukenhaz> okie
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#2103 [16:07] <Kealper> but as i said before, sometimes payment with credit card can take a few hours to process, especially after the website has been messing up like it was earlier
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#2105 [16:08] <Gregounech> Hey all
#2106 [16:08] <Gregounech> I have an issue in multiplayer servers
#2107 [16:08] <Kealper> ello
#2108 [16:08] <Kealper> can't log in? saying "Took too long to log in"?
#2109 [16:08] <Gregounech> I have a huge lag on a server
#2110 [16:08] <Gregounech> nope
#2111 [16:08] <Gregounech> I can log in
#2112 [16:08] <Kealper> oh....have you been able to play it fine before?
#2113 [16:09] <Gregounech> yep
#2114 [16:09] <Gregounech> nope in fact
#2115 [16:09] <Gregounech> I just started playing multiplayer
#2116 [16:09] <Gregounech> and this happens on every server I've tried
#2117 [16:09] <Gregounech> so I for instance when I enter a message
#2118 [16:09] <Gregounech> everybody sees it
#2119 [16:09] <Gregounech> but I don't
#2120 [16:09] <Kealper> go to http://speedtest.net and do a test, it will give you a link to the result, post that link here
#2121 [16:09] <Gregounech> for around 30seconds
#2122 [16:10] <xolotl> Gregounech: What do you get when you try a few "speed tests"?
#2123 [16:10] <Gregounech> Did that previously
#2124 [16:10] <Gregounech> usual results for my connection
#2125 [16:10] <Gregounech> 69ms ping
#2126 [16:10] * xolotl shakes a fist
#2126 [16:10] <Auly> xales/kealper: I rewired my system directly to the router and no change.
#2127 [16:10] <Gregounech> 2.05Mb/s dl
#2128 [16:10] <Gregounech> 0.4Mb/s upload
#2129 [16:10] <Kealper> you are just joining someone else's server, right? not trying to host your own?
#2130 [16:10] <Gregounech> yep
#2131 [16:11] <Gregounech> someone else server
#2132 [16:11] <Gregounech> a friend's one we have a private server for friends
#2133 [16:11] <Kealper> just for the heck of it, try to get on the server mc.kealper.com
#2134 [16:11] <Gregounech> ok
#2135 [16:11] <xales> Auly: No idea then, sorry =\
#2136 [16:11] <Gregounech> Im' in
#2137 [16:12] <Gregounech> stuck on barrier
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#2142 [16:13] <Auly> xales: thanks for helping honestly I do computer support for a living and have been trying for a couple of days now and I have gotten a few things worked out but not enough to actually get this working.
#2143 [16:13] <xales> Auly: No problem - I wish I could help further, good luck trying to get it to work.
#2144 [16:13] <Auly> Xales: even stream lined things enough that I can easily do 300+ fps in single player
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#2146 [16:16] <Auly> Xales: anyway things again only a couple things left to try and for that I got work cut out for me.
#2147 [16:18] <xales> Auly: No problem, and again, good luck. If you can't get it to work, you could try coming on later, some of the people who aren't around now might now
#2148 [16:18] <xales> know*
#2149 [16:18] <xales> :(
#2150 [16:18] <Runbunny> Hai everyone. I'm having trouble updating my minecraft server, I tried downloading the newest server.exe from minecraft.net though it appear only to be 1.2_01 while my minecraft client is running 1.2_02, so my question is "how do you update your minecraft server?"
#2151 [16:19] <Taz605> mine server vison is 1,2_01
#2152 [16:19] <Taz605> atm
#2153 [16:19] <xales> You update it by download it, like you did, but the latest server is 1.2_01
#2154 [16:19] <xales> 1.2_02 was just a client fix
#2155 [16:19] <Runbunny> So my 1.2_02 will be able to join my server?
#2156 [16:19] <xales> yes
#2157 [16:19] <Auly> Kealper: also thanks for your help as well
#2158 [16:20] <Runbunny> I see, I'll test it out thanks :)
#2159 [16:20] <Kealper> unless something major was changed for a certain update, the clients do not have to be the same version as the server
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#2161 [16:21] <Kealper> usually for the _01 and _02 style versions, nothing major was changed, so those will almost always still work
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#2163 [16:23] <Runbunny> I see, I just saw the different versions and figured that the square wooden brink did not fit in the triangular hole
#2164 [16:34] <Dessos> can someone try? 79.242.111.42
#2165 [16:34] <Kealper> !check 79.242.111.42
#2166 [16:34] <Dessos> :/
#2167 [16:35] <Kealper> Dessos: if that is your home ip, you can have AuBot check it yourself by typing !check
#2168 [16:35] <Dessos> 196.168.2.104?
#2169 [16:35] <Kealper> that is your internal address
#2170 [16:35] <Kealper> the first one you gave was your external
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#2172 [16:35] <Kealper> i think.... type !myip
#2173 [16:35] <Dessos> !myip?
#2174 [16:36] <Dessos> Dessos: Your IP address is 79.242.111.42
#2175 [16:36] <Kealper> ok, yea that was your external
#2176 [16:37] <Dessos> so, what ip is must use?
#2177 [16:38] <Kealper> well, to connect to your own server, or to have you friends connect to your server?
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#2180 [16:42] <runbunny> So apparently, I lose connection to the net when I'm trying to connect to my server
#2181 [16:42] <Taz605> !myip
#2182 [16:42] <Taz605> k that good to know
#2183 [16:43] <runbunny> Is the because of what the MChelpBot is saying or is it my end?
#2184 [16:44] <Gregor> So, does anyone know about the yellow startup text?
#2185 [16:44] <Gregor> It's like always diffrent
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#2187 [16:44] <xales> What about it?
#2188 [16:45] <Gregor> Are they just all stuff Notch made up?
#2189 [16:47] <xales> Yep
#2190 [16:47] <Kealper> yea, those are made up by Notch, in a huge list inside a text file in the jar
#2191 [16:48] <Gregor> Ahh, cool.
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#2193 [16:49] <Csmos> There is no way to increase the max height of maps is there?
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#2197 [16:51] <xales> Nope
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#2200 [16:54] <jorjo> hi. i just tried to run mc on a tripple monitor array. i really looks nice, but i got a problem using the inevtory. i cant move stuff around to the right side of it. someone heard of this problem?
#2201 [16:55] <Csmos> After 24 hours of messing with terrain generation settings I've finally found the right map! Sucess!
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#2212 [17:13] <FlyingWhales13> Everytime I run Minecraft, after around 2 seconds to 20 minutes it will crash, and a .txt will appear, stating that a fatal error in Java has ocurred.
#2213 [17:14] <FlyingWhales13> How can I fix this?
#2214 [17:14] <xales> Paste the txt on http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link
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#2216 [17:15] <FlyingWhales13> Here you go http://pastebin.com/GAJVF2Aq
#2217 [17:16] <xales> Update graphics card drivers
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#2219 [17:16] <FlyingWhales13> .__. Seariously
#2220 [17:17] <FlyingWhales13> OK how do I do that?
#2221 [17:17] <xales> Do you know what graphics card you have?
#2222 [17:17] <FlyingWhales13> No.
#2223 [17:18] <lemon-rev> flyingwhales on your desktop rightclick / goto properties / settings tab
#2224 [17:18] <xales> ^
#2225 [17:19] <lemon-rev> whats under the window showing your desktop and it says display:
#2226 [17:19] <FlyingWhales13> ATI Mobility Radeon x3000
#2227 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> What brand of laptop is this?
#2228 [17:19] <FlyingWhales13> Its a Dell from '05
#2229 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Model?
#2230 [17:19] <FlyingWhales13> Inspiron 6000
#2231 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Running what OS?
#2232 [17:20] <FlyingWhales13> Windows XP SP3 I believe
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#2234 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&os=WW1&osl=en&SystemID=INS_PNT_6000&catid=-1&impid=-1
#2235 [17:22] <FlyingWhales13> What do I do from there?
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#2237 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> see the Video heading at the bottom?
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#2239 [17:23] <xales> FlyingWhales13: Download this. ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/video/R106547.EXE
#2240 [17:23] <User> im looking for help making a server?
#2241 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> User - What kind of help do you need?
#2242 [17:24] <User> well i downloaded and ran the server exe but i dont know where to go from here
#2243 [17:24] <FlyingWhales13> I download the one for my card? alright I got it. Thanks guys
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#2245 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> user - On your client, try connecting with 127.0.0.1
#2246 [17:25] <User> my client?
#2247 [17:26] <Kealper> the game
#2248 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes, the beta client that you use to play the game with?
#2249 [17:26] <User> ok, 1 sec
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#2252 [17:26] <mib_fx1kjp> hi :)
#2253 [17:26] <OODavo> :(
#2254 [17:26] <Kealper> ello mib_fx1kjp
#2255 [17:26] <mib_fx1kjp> i need som help :S
#2256 [17:27] <Kealper> what sort of help?
#2257 [17:27] <mib_fx1kjp> my minecraft wont start :(
#2258 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> And why is that?
#2259 [17:27] <mib_fx1kjp> i clik the icon and nothing happens :(
#2260 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> What does it do?
#2261 [17:27] <xales> Are you on a Mac?
#2262 [17:27] <mib_fx1kjp> fatal java error :(
#2263 [17:27] <mib_fx1kjp> nope pc
#2264 [17:27] <Kealper> mib_fx1kjp: try reinstalling java
#2265 [17:27] <mib_fx1kjp> tryed
#2266 [17:27] <mib_fx1kjp> nothing works :(
#2267 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Does it give you an error log?
#2268 [17:28] <mib_fx1kjp> yes
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#2270 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Could you please copy and paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL
#2271 [17:28] <Ruggsy> i keep getting SE java binary errors
#2272 [17:28] <FlyingWhales13> Sorry to interrupt but the Driver Download Manager says there are no downloads.
#2273 [17:28] <xales> FlyingWhales13: Use the link I gave you
#2274 [17:28] <Kealper> Ruggsy: what errors, specifically?
#2275 [17:28] <xales> FlyingWhales13: ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/video/R106547.EXE
#2276 [17:28] <mib_fx1kjp> kay
#2277 [17:28] <Ruggsy> uhh
#2278 [17:29] <Ruggsy> it closes
#2279 [17:29] <FlyingWhales13> Cant connect to the server
#2280 [17:29] <Ruggsy> ill see when it comes up again :P
#2281 [17:29] <Kealper> Ruggsy: when it happens again, put the error text on http://pastebin.com and give us the url
#2282 [17:29] <Ruggsy> yea
#2283 [17:29] <Ruggsy> its only like a line of text
#2284 [17:29] <Kealper> oh, then just paste it in here lol
#2285 [17:29] <Ruggsy> like windows is telling me
#2286 [17:30] <Dessos> !check 79.242.111.42
#2287 [17:30] <Dessos> :/
#2288 [17:30] <Dessos> !check 192.168.2.104
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#2290 [17:30] <Dessos> xD
#2291 [17:30] <Dessos> no
#2292 [17:31] <mib_fx1kjp> http://pastebin.com/zhR8KXbY
#2293 [17:32] <xales> FlyingWhales13: are you on some kind of weird interent connection?
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#2295 [17:32] <mib_fx1kjp> no
#2296 [17:32] <FlyingWhales13> Possibly, it is a small mobile hotspot.
#2297 [17:32] <xales> FlyingWhales13: That is probably the issue
#2298 [17:32] <Csmos> wtf can't eat apple..
#2299 [17:33] <xales> mib_fx1kjp: uhh, that is a very bad error. What kind of computer do you have
#2300 [17:33] <mib_fx1kjp> acer
#2301 [17:33] <mib_fx1kjp> windows 7
#2302 [17:33] <xales> is it a laptop, desktop..?
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#2304 [17:33] <mib_fx1kjp> laptop
#2305 [17:33] <mib_7de8f6> hello
#2306 [17:33] <xales> how old is it?
#2307 [17:33] <xales> mib_7de8f6: Hello
#2308 [17:33] <mib_fx1kjp> 1 year
#2309 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> xales, something doesn't look right in his environment variables at the bottom of the error log
#2310 [17:33] <mib_fx1kjp> works great
#2311 [17:34] <mib_7de8f6> can some on tell me how to play online
#2312 [17:34] <mib_fx1kjp> buy it ;)
#2313 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_7de8f6 - Yes, you can find a list of working servers...
#2314 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> http://mcserverlist.net/
#2315 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#2316 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> servers.minecraftforum.net/
#2317 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers
#2318 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> In one of those locations
#2319 [17:34] <mib_fx1kjp> what do i do now :S
#2320 [17:35] <mib_fx1kjp> i buoght the game today :/
#2321 [17:35] <mib_fx1kjp> *
#2322 [17:35] <xales> mib_fx1kjp: You type the IP it gives you into the 'IP' box and click connect
#2323 [17:35] <mib_fx1kjp> ?
#2324 [17:35] <mib_7de8f6> im looking for ips
#2325 [17:35] <xales> oh
#2326 [17:35] <xales> sorry
#2327 [17:35] <xales> wrong mib_
#2328 [17:35] <xales> change your names >.>
#2329 [17:35] <xales> anyway
#2330 [17:35] <Kealper> lol
#2331 [17:36] <mib_fx1kjp> hehehehe
#2332 [17:36] <mib_7de8f6> lol
#2333 [17:36] <xales> mib_7de8f6: the IPs are on the sites that GreyVulpine listed
#2334 [17:36] <Kealper> type /nick nickname
#2335 [17:36] <xales> mib_fx1kjp: Err, ask GreyVulpine, he might know why its doing that
#2336 [17:36] <Kealper> where nickname is the nickname you want
#2337 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> xales - tell me if I'm wrong, but QT is quicktime, right?
#2338 [17:36] <mib_fx1kjp> think so...
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#2340 [17:37] <xales> GreyVulpine: nope, QT is http://qt.nokia.com/ i think
#2341 [17:37] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: depends on the context
#2342 [17:37] <mib_7de8f6> one more thing what is a sever port
#2343 [17:37] <Kealper> Qt is what xales said, but dumb people might also call Quicktime Qt
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#2345 [17:37] <mib_fx1kjp> (A)
#2346 [17:37] <mib_2m2cza> Does anyone know of a tutorial on how to make a mod that integrates redstone circuitry into a single block? is that even possible? or how to read redstone inputs and write output?
#2347 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_2m2cza - Not possible at the moment
#2348 [17:38] <mib_2m2cza> oh darn :(
#2349 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#2350 [17:38] <xales> GreyVulpine: the QT is normal
#2351 [17:38] <xales> in classpath
#2352 [17:38] <xales> anyway, the problem is with...addition
#2353 [17:39] <xales> which is..bad
#2354 [17:39] <mib_fx1kjp> :S
#2355 [17:39] <mib_fx1kjp> but what can I do? :(
#2356 [17:39] <xales> mib_fx1kjp: Turn off any antivirus programs you have
#2357 [17:39] <mib_fx1kjp> aa!
#2358 [17:39] <mib_fx1kjp> might be panda..
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#2360 [17:40] <mib_fx1kjp> ill try ;)
#2361 [17:40] <Dessos> !check 79.242.111.42
#2362 [17:40] <mib_fx1kjp> thanks for help ;)
#2363 [17:40] <Dessos> :/
#2364 [17:41] <mib_fx1kjp> cya :)
#2365 [17:41] <Dessos> I am desperate.
#2366 [17:41] <mib_fx1kjp> hehe :)
#2367 [17:41] <Taz605> !check 85.236.100.250:30465
#2368 [17:42] <Dessos> !check 79.242.111.42:25565
#2369 [17:42] <Dessos> ... döm döm döm
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#2372 [17:43] <horatio> so, i've been running a server for over a week, and we've got about 6 people connecting with no problems.
#2373 [17:44] <horatio> out of the blue, the past two days have been hell trying to connect: timeouts, client errors, exceptions...
#2374 [17:44] <horatio> anyone have any ideas? :(
#2375 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Eep
#2376 [17:45] <xales> minecraft.net has been having intermittent issues
#2377 [17:45] <xales> so its probably that
#2378 [17:45] <horatio> ah. i checked minecraft.net, and it was up, so I figured I'd discount that as an issue.
#2379 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Try a new map, see if it comes back?
#2380 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> If it does, it's either the map has an error, or one of the player profiles is bugged
#2381 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> er, doesn't
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#2383 [17:47] <minecrafteer> So, as someone who recently decided to put three iron ingots towards a bucket, I've wondered...
#2384 [17:47] <minecrafteer> ...How do I find a "spring block"?
#2385 [17:47] <xales> Any water that isn't "flowing"
#2386 [17:47] <xales> or the source of flowing water
#2387 [17:47] <horatio> well, you can harvest water from standing water
#2388 [17:47] <minecrafteer> So, basically, standing water or lava?
#2389 [17:47] <horatio> or you can trace the flowing water back to the block from which it originates
#2390 [17:47] <horatio> same with lava
#2391 [17:48] <minecrafteer> So that means no waterfalls or moving streams, but aside from that, anything goes?
#2392 [17:48] <xales> yes
#2393 [17:48] <minecrafteer> Man, I thought there was one "special lava block" I'd have to find
#2394 [17:48] <mib_2m2cza> is there any tutorials on creating runes like in runecraft but in singleplayer mode? I really wanna do some modding but none of the tutorials are the kinds of things i want to mod
#2395 [17:48] <minecrafteer> hence me travelling extremely far into a lava lake and almost dying looking for it
#2396 [17:48] <mib_2m2cza> yeh i spent a lot of time looking for the "spring" block too
#2397 [17:48] <minecrafteer> Eh, I found a huge deposit of diamonds though, so it wasn't a total waste :\
#2398 [17:49] <mib_2m2cza> before i figured out standing water worked fine
#2399 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Or you can spawn it yourself. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values - Blocks 8 and 10 for water and lava source blocks
#2400 [17:49] <minecrafteer> Thanks again minecrafthelp, you guys are tops.
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#2402 [17:49] <xales> mib_2m2cza: If you are looking on creating a mod yourself, and you are looking for a 'tutorial' on how to do it, you really should look at learning how to program first.
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#2404 [17:54] <mib_2m2cza> thanks xales....
#2405 [17:54] <mib_2m2cza> what makes you think i dont know how?
#2406 [17:54] <xales> The way you were asking
#2407 [17:54] <mib_2m2cza> Im proficient in actionscript/php/c++/python
#2408 [17:55] <mib_2m2cza> its more api tutorials im looking for
#2409 [17:55] <mib_2m2cza> i guess
#2410 [17:55] <mib_2m2cza> than specific item tutorials
#2411 [17:55] <xales> There isn't an API
#2412 [17:55] <Kealper> no real API atm, just Java plugins for stuff like Bukkit
#2413 [17:56] <Kealper> so no Java, no mods :/
#2414 [17:57] <mib_2m2cza> Java isnt too bad ive done some programs in it... its pretty similar to c++
#2415 [17:57] <mib_2m2cza> its stuff like this.bh
#2416 [17:57] <mib_2m2cza> wtf is bh
#2417 [17:57] <mib_2m2cza> and that function names are all a(args...) or b(args...) with no real naming conventions
#2418 [17:57] <xales> that is called obfuscation.
#2419 [17:57] <xales> ._.
#2420 [17:58] <xales> also, we don
#2421 [17:58] <xales> don't really provide any support for modding. Sorry
#2422 [17:58] <mib_2m2cza> yeh i know i was just hoping there wwas better documentation of what was what somewhere than what i was finding
#2423 [17:58] <mib_2m2cza> yeah ill go back to trial and error
#2424 [17:58] <xales> Minecraft isn't open source
#2425 [17:58] <xales> so don't expect to find anything
#2426 [17:58] <mib_2m2cza> I know ...but it has a modding community just not much resources
#2427 [17:59] <mib_2m2cza> so i thought this might be the place to find that stuff out ... so i thought id check , I now know thats not the case so we good ... I'll just do trial and error stuff
#2428 [17:59] <mib_2m2cza> and follow the few tutorials there are out there
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#2433 [18:15] <User> ok, so i've made a server, how do i invite people to it?
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#2436 [18:15] <xales> You give them the IP for it, User
#2437 [18:16] <User> how do i find the ip?
#2438 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> whatismyip.com
#2439 [18:16] <User> yeah, i tried that, didn't work
#2440 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Right, did you port forward?
#2441 [18:16] <User> not that i know of
#2442 [18:17] <User> im playing on 127.0.0.1 atm
#2443 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to port forward from your router to your server, for others to access it from the outside
#2444 [18:19] <User> hmm, not sure how to do that, but im only trying to make a local connection with a housemate
#2445 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Oh, then if it's on the local lan...
#2446 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#2447 [18:20] <User> vista and wndows 7
#2448 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Press your windows+R key, type in "cmd" at the server's run command
#2449 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> At the command prompt, type in: ipconfig
#2450 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> give your housemate the ipv4 address
#2451 [18:21] <User> k, thanks will try now
#2452 [18:27] <User> hmm, i think its worked but we seem to be in different worlds
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#2454 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> User - Are you an op on your own server?
#2455 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Okay then..
#2456 [18:38] <relsqui> heh
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#2464 [19:11] <Dessos> Hello?
#2465 [19:13] <Cial> hello
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#2468 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#2469 [19:32] <crickets> GreyVulpine: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (7:30p Feb 05 11) temp(23.5 F / -4.7 C, feels like 24 F / -5 C) cond(Mostly Cloudy) wind(WSW at 1.0 mph / 1.6 km/h) hu(86%) dewpnt(20 F / -7 C) bp(29.75 in / 1007.3 hPa (Rising)) clouds(Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 7000 ft / 2133 m, Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 12000 ft / 3657 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#2470 [19:32] <crickets> Tonight: Cloudy. Lows 14 to 18. West winds 5 to 10 mph.
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#2474 [19:41] <jearbear> sup all
#2475 [19:41] <jearbear> so can anyone and i do mean anyone help me with a minecraft problem
#2476 [19:42] <jearbear> my son wants the game full version but i cant log in or buy it anyone???
#2477 [19:42] <relsqui> why can't you log in?
#2478 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#2479 [19:42] <crickets> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2480 [19:42] <jearbear> dont know when i registered it took my scren name and password
#2481 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> The website's up
#2482 [19:43] <relsqui> jearbear: what error do you get?
#2483 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Is there a "Register" or "Log out" button in the upper right of the website?
#2484 [19:43] <jearbear> but when i try to log in it goes back to log in page like it worked there are no error messages either
#2485 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Enabled cookies on your browser?
#2486 [19:44] <jearbear> no just the login/register
#2487 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> I mean, are cookies enabled on your browser?
#2488 [19:44] <jearbear> yes i even tried different brosers
#2489 [19:44] <jearbear> well i am guessing they are on the foxfire i just downloaded it today
#2490 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> And you still only get "Login | Register" after logging in?
#2491 [19:45] <DESU_LSUJD> *firefox
#2492 [19:45] <jearbear> yes, should i get a confirmation e-mail that i have joined?
#2493 [19:45] <jearbear> sorry yes firefox
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#2495 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes yes, email has been known to be intermittent.
#2496 [19:46] <ArmEagle> I wonder whether there are mods that lower the light intensity where monsters can still spawn. I find I need just a little bit too many torches.
#2497 [19:46] <relsqui> ArmEagle: yeah, I know that one
#2498 [19:46] <jearbear> does anyone know if each browser has its own cokkies?
#2499 [19:46] <DESU_LSUJD> also i've got a quick question: any particular reason my skin will work in singleplayer but not in multiplayer?
#2500 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> But even if you don't get the email, you should still be able to log into the website
#2501 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> DESU_LSUJD - You paid for beta?
#2502 [19:47] <DESU_LSUJD> yeah
#2503 [19:47] <ArmEagle> jearbear yeah they each have their own
#2504 [19:47] <jearbear> i see, i saw a message that the server was being attacked is that true and could that be it?
#2505 [19:47] <DESU_LSUJD> well it was gifted if that counts
#2506 [19:47] <relsqui> o_O where'd you see that?
#2507 [19:47] <jearbear> how can i check firefox?
#2508 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> jearbear - A while ago, it was
#2509 [19:47] <DESU_LSUJD> but it's a legitimate version
#2510 [19:47] <jearbear> on one of the other forums
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#2512 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> jearbear - Tools -> options -> privacy
#2513 [19:50] <jearbear> ok it wasnt on i will try again n let u know what happens thanks
#2514 [19:51] <DESU_LSUJD> strange, reconnecting to the server the skin is working now
#2515 [19:51] <DESU_LSUJD> oh well
#2516 [19:51] <DESU_LSUJD> it's working
#2517 [19:51] <DESU_LSUJD> later
#2518 [19:51] <jearbear> ok im logged in now time to try and buy it
#2519 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Laters
#2520 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Good to hear jearbear
#2521 [19:52] <jearbear> how long should i set the cokkies to be kept? just until i close the browser or untill i want to delete them
#2522 [19:52] <jearbear> thanks to all who helped me as well
#2523 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> jearbear - As long as you want it to
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#2525 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> There's nothing inherintly wrong with just having cookies enabled on the system
#2526 [19:53] <jearbear> ok my son is 10 yrs is this game safe in youre opinion?
#2527 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Totally
#2528 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> If he doesn't like creepy monsters, you can set it to peaceful mode, and all it is, is just building
#2529 [19:53] <jearbear> ok, gonna try to buy now, if i buy with paypal how soon can he play?
#2530 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> It can be immediate, or it could take up to a day or two
#2531 [19:54] <jearbear> thats good to know, i will tell him but i think he will be ok
#2532 [19:54] <jearbear> ok grey thanks
#2533 [19:54] <jearbear> will trt now
#2534 [19:54] <jearbear> try i mean
#2535 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Sure, g'luck.
#2536 [19:58] <jearbear> ok so far now to try and play
#2537 [20:00] <jearbear> ok im back and i hate to b a bother but now i have to download it but what do i click on after the download button
#2538 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> Oh god, something happened to my... ARGH
#2539 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> Never mind, false alarm
#2540 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> jearbear - Hmm
#2541 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> ?
#2542 [20:02] <jearbear> ok im on i think
#2543 [20:02] <jearbear> had to log on to a server that sound right?
#2544 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> jearbear - Did you download the minecraft.exe from the website?
#2545 [20:03] <jearbear> just did and selected single player and then empty world its loading so i should be ok, right?
#2546 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#2547 [20:05] <jearbear> thansk so much, he found someone on youtube that he wants to download his map can he? and how
#2548 [20:05] <jearbear> thanks i mean,lol
#2549 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the map, but generally yes
#2550 [20:06] <jearbear> ok do i search for the map name or his name?
#2551 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Does he provide a download link for his map?
#2552 [20:07] <jearbear> looking now
#2553 [20:09] <ArmEagle> arrrgh. minecart dispenser was working just fine, many times and bwooop. there it failed suddenly again..
#2554 [20:09] <ArmEagle> Can't wait till bukkit is ready :)
#2555 [20:10] <jearbear> well dont see one but owell atleast he can play thanks to you, talk to you all later and thanks again
#2556 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Have fun.
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#2558 [20:16] <Postoffice> whats the satus of minecraft.net?
#2559 [20:17] <Postoffice> still buggy?
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#2561 [20:22] <jearbear> my screen just went black what happend?
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#2564 [20:30] <ArmEagle> jearbear sometimes the game locks up
#2565 [20:30] <ArmEagle> just closed it (alt+f4) or the X button and wait for windows to give a popup/close..
#2566 [20:30] <ArmEagle> then restart
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#2569 [20:31] <jearbear> just closed it how do i get back new sorry :P
#2570 [20:36] <ArmEagle> jearbear just start the game like you did before
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#2574 [20:37] <Joblev> :/
#2575 [20:37] <Joblev> Hiya
#2576 [20:37] <Joblev> anyone?
#2577 [20:38] <lukegb> Nope
#2578 [20:38] <lukegb> No one's here
#2579 [20:38] <Joblev> at all?
#2580 [20:38] <Joblev> :P
#2581 [20:38] <Joblev> : P
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#2583 [20:41] <Charem> hiya anybody.
#2584 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2585 [20:44] <fogWraith> Why hellooooooo there
#2586 [20:44] <Charem> it's funny how whenever I decide to purchase an online game, it immediately has some sort of server issue. xP
#2587 [20:44] <relsqui> it's not so much coincidence as consistency
#2588 [20:44] <relsqui> (I'm a new enough player that as far as I know, minecraft.net has ALWAYS been sketchy)
#2589 [20:44] <fogWraith> Funny how it's been like this for quite a long... long... long time
#2590 [20:44] <Charem> I suppose so. beta is beta after all.
#2591 [20:44] <fogWraith> We're just used to it ;P
#2592 [20:44] <Charem> so how long do the downtimes usually take?
#2593 [20:45] <fogWraith> Minutes, hours, days
#2594 [20:45] <fogWraith> It depends really
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#2596 [20:45] <Charem> in other words...it's hard to say.
#2597 [20:45] <fogWraith> Yeah
#2598 [20:45] <Charem> xP ah well.
#2599 [20:45] <Charem> friend bought me the game. he really wanted me to play it with 'im.
#2600 [20:46] <Charem> only reason I care so much about the online-side right now.
#2601 [20:46] <fogWraith> Purchases can take anywhere from instantly to an hour, unlucky if longer
#2602 [20:46] <Charem> oh, it bought pretty much instantly - I have the beta.
#2603 [20:46] <fogWraith> Ah
#2604 [20:47] <fogWraith> Well, just the login issues now then
#2605 [20:47] <fogWraith> Keep trying and it lets you in ;)
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#2607 [20:47] <KillSpammer> fogWraith minecraft.net is having problems also so that may delay the purchase.
#2608 [20:47] <Charem> okay. =3
#2609 [20:47] <fogWraith> Yeah I noticed earlier, bastards with their "WE MOVE TO TEH CLOUDS!11"
#2610 [20:47] <Charem> the single player is of course a blast. though I've only played the beta single player for about 10 minutes.
#2611 [20:48] <Charem> even so...top notch.
#2612 [20:48] <KillSpammer> :P
#2613 [20:48] <Charem> I wonder when the team will secure them online servers though.
#2614 [20:48] <KillSpammer> Charem look up redstone, i'm sure you will enjoy it.
#2615 [20:48] <Charem> redstone? sure, might as well~
#2616 [20:49] <KillSpammer> Charem they have a budget plus taxes are over 50 percent in sweden
#2617 [20:49] <KillSpammer> Plus having around 50thousand+ people trying to connect at once isn't helping :P
#2618 [20:49] <Charem> ahah, point taken.
#2619 [21:00] <Sirhc> is minecraft.net down? I am only getting a white screen....
#2620 [21:01] <KillSpammer> Sirhc yes minecraft.net is havin problems
#2621 [21:02] <Sirhc> Damn... I want to change my skin... :(
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#2625 [21:09] <aetherian> hey
#2626 [21:09] <KillSpammer> OHAI AETH!
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#2631 [21:18] <grentew> hi all what is the name of the channel that deals with mine craft mods?
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#2633 [21:19] <fogWraith> grentew: #bukkit or #hmod
#2634 [21:22] <grentew> did i get this right for a mob trap that i make a channel two high by two wide for 8 blocks then place two three deep by two wide?
#2635 [21:23] <grentew> i modify the game to permit monsters and the like and they are handing me my but :P so was thinking of some how making a fort to harvest some of their drops by drowning the buggars.. :P
#2636 [21:24] <lemon-rev> you have to work out best way to do it, look for examples say youtube
#2637 [21:24] <grentew> i saw on you tube a auto factory all id like is to make the fort safe yet pass via water the drops
#2638 [21:24] <grentew> yeah just water always flows north in the game ?
#2639 [21:24] <grentew> to figure how best to get the water flowing?
#2640 [21:25] <lemon-rev> hm, place it on ledge will always leade away or down the slope
#2641 [21:25] <lemon-rev> not nessacerly to head north lol
#2642 [21:26] <grentew> thanks when i put the monster mobs starting out they collect all over my fort and hand me my butt so figure help them out by drowning near the fort
#2643 [21:26] <grentew> i havent seen ore past coal or iron as of yet and just got the game two days ago.. I love this game
#2644 [21:26] <lemon-rev> lol
#2645 [21:26] <grentew> it even knocked out my desire to play wow
#2646 [21:26] <lemon-rev> well futher down you dig the more of everything you find
#2647 [21:27] <lemon-rev> lol, now thats kick ass lol
#2648 [21:27] <grentew> so now im trying and breaking alot my mine craft trying to get the mods to work with ..
#2649 [21:27] <lemon-rev> something to kick out a wow addiction lol thats funny
#2650 [21:27] <SkiingPenguins> grentew minecraft is very addicting for me
#2651 [21:27] <grentew> moerrecipies and monsters ect bt more for more things to do rather than unbalanceing mods
#2652 [21:28] <grentew> my biggest dillema is how to archive the working unbroken minecraft stuff so that what i already got to work is archived and i can restore it then incremental add other mods to break it lol
#2653 [21:28] <SkiingPenguins> use 7-zip and make a backup-tar
#2654 [21:28] <grentew> this game i think would be the independent game of the decade.
#2655 [21:29] <grentew> im in windows 7 unfortunately i een useing rar
#2656 [21:30] <grentew> but havent figured out how to archive what mods by their build ect in a text file so i can see between them what was working and what broke it
#2657 [21:30] <grentew> im not sure where notch is regarding mods.. I think they are a interesting option if
#2658 [21:31] <grentew> its mainly to customise and make the game more diversified.. assuming all mods are meant to just enhance rather than imbalance the game.
#2659 [21:31] <grentew> is there a risu channel regarding mods? i figure they arent topic here
#2660 [21:32] <lemon-rev> that correct try #minecraft general chat
#2661 [21:32] <lemon-rev> but im not sure if they can even help you
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#2667 [21:44] <Dortan> is their any details about what is happening ?
#2668 [21:45] <xales> in regard to?
#2669 [21:45] <Dortan> Minecraft.net and Multiplayer ?
#2670 [21:45] <Ruggsy> Notch shut down minecraft
#2671 [21:45] <Ruggsy> he stole your money
#2672 [21:45] <Ruggsy> and ran to venezuela
#2673 [21:45] <Ruggsy> to make a real life minecraft paradise
#2674 [21:46] <Ruggsy> is what is going on
#2675 [21:46] <xales> ...
#2676 [21:46] <xales> Dortan: There are issues with the current host, they are looking to move to a new one, but they don't want to do it before they know it works
#2677 [21:46] <Ruggsy> that or the minecraft servers are down
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#2679 [21:46] <Mandreas> Hi
#2680 [21:47] <Mandreas> Can someone help me with something?
#2681 [21:47] <Dortan> alright thankx.
#2682 [21:47] <xales> Mandreas: What with?
#2683 [21:47] <Mandreas> I bought minecraft, but it still says "
#2684 [21:47] <Mandreas> Buy now!" when i click play in browser
#2685 [21:47] <xales> How long ago did you buy it?
#2686 [21:47] <Mandreas> 15 minutes ago or so
#2687 [21:48] <Mandreas> Am I supposed to receive an e-mail?
#2688 [21:48] <xales> Not sure. You will probably need to wait longer than that
#2689 [21:48] <xales> the servers are having some issues right now
#2690 [21:48] <xales> but they should be fixed soon
#2691 [21:48] <Mandreas> Thought so
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#2694 [21:51] <Rothbard> Hello there fellow miners
#2695 [21:51] <xales> hello
#2696 [21:52] <Rothbard> I got the game a few days ago, and I think my video card is acting up. The lower quarter of the game window keeps flashing
#2697 [21:52] <Rothbard> I love it, btw, it is pretty incredible
#2698 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that doesn't sound like a software problem
#2699 [21:53] <Rothbard> yeah. I'm having similar troubles with other 2d/java games
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#2701 [21:53] <xales> Tried updating the drivers for it?
#2702 [21:53] <Rothbard> I put a thread up on the official forums, but I figured I'd check here and see if anyone would have any ideas. I've updated windows, java, and my video card driver
#2703 [21:54] <Rothbard> Right now I'm running scans to see if there's anything weird on the system
#2704 [21:55] <xales> What card is it?
#2705 [21:55] <Rothbard> P4 2.4g
#2706 [21:55] <Rothbard> 1.7gig sdram
#2707 [21:55] <Rothbard> Geforce 8400 gs pci
#2708 [21:55] <Rothbard> Windows xp sp2
#2709 [21:55] <Rothbard> ack, sorry about the spammage
#2710 [21:56] <xales> err
#2711 [21:56] <Rothbard> modern stuff works fine with it. Oblivion, etc. DOSBox has problems, though, as well as older 2d games
#2712 [21:56] <xales> maybe try updating Window?
#2713 [21:56] <Rothbard> yeah, I tried that... I might try service pack 3, that might help...
#2714 [21:57] <Rothbard> though I thought that went with the autoupdate stuff... It might already be sp3
#2715 [21:57] <xales> That is what updating windows means =/
#2716 [21:57] <Rothbard> bah : I
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#2718 [21:58] <Rothbard> The issue is really more of an annoyance... I can still play, it's just weird
#2719 [21:58] <Arkose> upgrade to Service Pack 3.
#2720 [21:59] <Arkose> you can determine your current Service Pack version by right-clicking My Computer and choosing Properties. The window will then display all sorts of information including your Service Pack.
#2721 [21:59] <Rothbard> well, let me check that then
#2722 [22:00] <Arkose> although note that if you happen to have the 64-bit version of XP there is no Service Pack 3 for that.
#2723 [22:01] <Rothbard> okay, it is definitely sp2
#2724 [22:02] <Rothbard> and it's for sure the 32 bit version
#2725 [22:02] <Rothbard> I've had my system since like 2003
#2726 [22:03] <Rothbard> I'll try doing that, though. I really appreciate the help
#2727 [22:03] <Arkose> :)
#2728 [22:03] <Rothbard> Minecraft is way too fun for its own good, btw
#2729 [22:04] <Rothbard> It's the most interactive game I've played since probably Ultima 7
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#2733 [22:13] <LatHans> will the minecraft servers ever become stable?
#2734 [22:13] <LatHans> login/auth servers that is
#2735 [22:14] <Arkose> when Mojang purchase more servers or something, sure
#2736 [22:15] <LatHans> I'm tired of seeing "can't connect to minecraft.net" and "took too long to log in"
#2737 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> They're currently planning another server migration
#2738 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Don't want to do it so soon after this last one, and Notch is still on vacation
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#2740 [22:19] <Rizowski> why am i getting response code error 503 when trying to login?
#2741 [22:20] <LatHans> Rizowski: because your client failed to sign in to the minecraft servers. You need to restart the client
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#2745 [22:26] <relsqui> I just learned the hard way that lava doesn't follow the same flow rules as water
#2746 [22:27] <Elvang> :)
#2747 [22:28] <relsqui> I wonder how far it got into my dig 8)
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#2749 [22:28] <Dortan> is Notch Team Currently working on the Login Issue or we need to wait for Notch itself to returne from vacation before they plan anything ?
#2750 [22:28] <xales> Dortan: No, they are working on it
#2751 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Both
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#2753 [22:29] <Dortan> So basically...right now at this very moment, If I continue over and over to try and connect to my server, is their any chances it's gonna work or not ?
#2754 [22:29] <xales> Possibly
#2755 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Should work
#2756 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Works for me
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#2767 [22:46] <relsqui> what is a diamond shovel even for, besides digging a LOT of gravel before it breaks?
#2768 [22:47] <Mandreas> Hey can anyone help me?
#2769 [22:47] <Mandreas> ?
#2770 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> What's up Mandreas
#2771 [22:49] <Mandreas> I bought the game like an hour ago
#2772 [22:49] <Mandreas> and its not letting me play :\
#2773 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> It can take some time for the purchase to go through
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#2775 [22:49] <Mandreas> Should I have gotten an email telling me I bought it?
#2776 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes it sends one, sometimes the mojang email server is overloaded
#2777 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> ie, their account through gmail hit the limit again
#2778 [22:51] <Mandreas> I wannnaa play D;
#2779 [22:51] <Mandreas> its sooo funn
#2780 [22:52] <relsqui> yeah :)
#2781 [22:52] <Mandreas> Is something wrong with the site?
#2782 [22:52] <Mandreas> I keep getting a white screen
#2783 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> relsqui - There's no reason to construct a diamond shovel, unless you've got diamond to spare.
#2784 [22:52] <relsqui> yeah, didn't think so
#2785 [22:52] <relsqui> and I didn't; someone gave me one :)
#2786 [22:53] <Arkose> I almost use more diamonds on jukeboxes than tools :D
#2787 [22:53] <Mandreas> Whats the deal with the scary music when ur just minding your own business in a cave??? lol
#2788 [22:53] <relsqui> XD
#2789 [22:53] <Arkose> because it's a caaaaave!
#2790 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Just that, ambience
#2791 [22:53] <relsqui> caves are scary
#2792 [22:54] <relsqui> also I'm gonna be less dumb this time and bring some freaking water
#2793 [22:54] <Arkose> also you're most likely hearing sounds initiated by nearby unexplored caves
#2794 [22:54] <relsqui> as I go to dig some stairs into a lava pool
#2795 [22:54] <Mandreas> And whats the deal with that creepy guy who appears out of no where?
#2796 [22:54] <Arkose> he just wants a hug :(
#2797 [22:54] <Mandreas> he looks kind of like the default skin
#2798 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Myth
#2799 [22:54] <Mandreas> but bigger eyes
#2800 [22:54] <Mandreas> ns
#2801 [22:54] <Mandreas> and*
#2802 [22:54] <Mandreas> just wondering
#2803 [22:55] <Mandreas> has anyone heard of "The Jester"?
#2804 [22:59] <relsqui> hmm. now I have a nice little lava pool in my wooden hut. I would like to have a lava source too, but ... um ... lava.
#2805 [22:59] <relsqui> wooden hut.
#2806 [22:59] <relsqui> etc.
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#2808 [23:04] <Mandreas> Anyone else having trouble getting on the sire?
#2809 [23:04] <Mandreas> Site*
#2810 [23:04] <xales> ._.
#2811 [23:05] <xales> look at the message sent when you joined
#2812 [23:05] <xales> messages
#2813 [23:05] <Mandreas> oh
#2814 [23:05] <Mandreas> :[
#2815 [23:06] <Maxite> Yea, site is down now for me.
#2816 [23:06] <Arkose> I basically never visit the site itself :)
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#2822 [23:21] <Elvang> Does broadcasting minecraft over xfire work?
#2823 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Don't know, never tried
#2824 [23:22] <BurnZeZ> Doubt it.
#2825 [23:22] <BurnZeZ> All these stream devices use Directx
#2826 [23:22] <Arkose> no Direct3D renderer in Minecraft yet :(
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#2829 [23:27] <Kealper> xfire has an opengl hook too
#2830 [23:28] <Kealper> but it doesn't support minecraft, so no, it won't work unless you seriously jerry-rig it to think you are playing a different opengl game
#2831 [23:38] <feenyx> oh, servers still offline
#2832 [23:39] <xales> oh, feenyx
#2833 [23:39] <feenyx> oh?
#2834 [23:39] <xales> I have a toggle thing on my bot for the +v/+m and need to query the bot
#2835 [23:39] <xales> so...if we ever need it, it is there
#2836 [23:39] <feenyx> like !mute ?
#2837 [23:39] <xales> .vprotect
#2838 [23:39] <MCHelpBot> Disabling voice protection
#2839 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Ticket system
#2840 [23:39] <xales> .vprotect
#2841 [23:39] <MCHelpBot> Enabling voice protection
#2842 [23:39] <feenyx> aha
#2843 [23:40] <xales> except right now it is changed
#2844 [23:40] <xales> because I am lazy
#2845 [23:40] <xales> the .vprotect just toggles noticing the person that the servers are down
#2846 [23:40] <xales> when they join
#2847 [23:40] <xales> :)
#2848 [23:40] <feenyx> The lazy shall inherit the earth
#2849 [23:40] <Cial> maybe later
#2850 [23:41] <Elvang> Hmm
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#2853 [23:41] <xales> 23:41:18 -MCHelpBot(MCHelpBot@darksigns.net)- If you are experiencing problems connecting to a multiplayer server, please be patient! Minecraft.net is currently down
#2854 [23:41] <Elvang> XIG works with http://www.xfire.com/forums/182627/topic/2336576/
#2855 [23:41] <Elvang> Just don't try using it on the main menu or it crashes
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#2860 [23:43] <nipper> lol Elvang
#2861 [23:44] <relex> could anyone direct me to where I could get help with Ambient Occlusion? and more specifically, MrMPatcher.jar that's included with it
#2862 [23:44] <Deathnz> can someone help me with a minecraft installer problem?
#2863 [23:44] <MagusSupreme> same here
#2864 [23:44] <xales> Deathnz: There isn't a Minecraft installer
#2865 [23:44] <Deathnz> get a java runtime error
#2866 [23:44] <Deathnz> well the exer
#2867 [23:44] <Deathnz> exe
#2868 [23:44] <Deathnz> when i download it
#2869 [23:44] <relex> is java up to date?
#2870 [23:44] <xales> Paste the error on http://pastebin.com/
#2871 [23:44] <xales> and give us the link
#2872 [23:45] <Deathnz> java is up to date im pretty sure
#2873 [23:45] <MagusSupreme> downloaded and reinstalled java three times, get the unable to create virtual machine error every time with all the installers
#2874 [23:45] <MagusSupreme> and i was playing the alpha before i was given a beta key
#2875 [23:46] <xales> MagusSupreme: Alpha? Do you mean Classic?
#2876 [23:46] <xales> also, how much RAM does your computer have?
#2877 [23:46] <relex> make absolutely sure Deathnz
#2878 [23:46] <Deathnz> okay my error just says "could not create the java virtual machine"
#2879 [23:46] <MagusSupreme> 1.5 gig ram ,pent 4 2.4 gig,
#2880 [23:46] <Deathnz> yeh ill try upodate now
#2881 [23:47] <xales> MagusSupreme: Windows XP?
#2882 [23:47] <relex> also, if anyone can help me, that'd be great :)
#2883 [23:47] <Deathnz> it works in browser though
#2884 [23:47] <MagusSupreme> i got a built in 32 meg vid card that was runnin it fine, and yes, xp install
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#2886 [23:47] <MagusSupreme> same here, browser works somewhat
#2887 [23:47] <relex> Deathnz: go to www.pastebin.com and paste your error in there
#2888 [23:47] <xales> relex: Unfortunately, we don't and can't really offer support for mods. You should ask in #risucraft or contact the creator
#2889 [23:47] <relex> and give us the link
#2890 [23:48] <xales> MagusSupreme, Deathnz: both of you do this
#2891 [23:48] <relex> xales: I know, I was just wondering if you could help me find someone who could help (and you did!^-^) I did read the rules :P thanks!
#2892 [23:48] <xales> Click the 'for linux' link and save it to your desktop
#2893 [23:48] <xales> !client
#2894 [23:48] <xales> Then, open start->run, type 'cmd' and click Run
#2895 [23:48] <xales> in the box that comes up, type
#2896 [23:49] <xales> java -Xms128M -Xmx128M -jar Desktop/minecraft.jar
#2897 [23:49] <xales> and hit enter
#2898 [23:49] <lahwran> xales: UGH
#2899 [23:49] <lahwran> xales: don't do that!
#2900 [23:49] <xales> lahwran: what?
#2901 [23:49] <lahwran> risucraft is not a support channel
#2902 [23:49] <xales> it now >:)
#2903 [23:49] <xales> is*
#2904 [23:49] <relex> -_-
#2905 [23:50] * GreyVulpine snickesr
#2905 [23:50] <Arkose> xales: as an aside, that launching method also works with the .exe.
#2906 [23:51] <xales> Arkose: Less likely an antivirus bitches about a jar than an exe...sometimes
#2907 [23:51] <Arkose> ah right
#2908 [23:52] <MagusSupreme> does that work for the minecraft.exe too?
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#2910 [23:53] <xales> The .exe is more or less the same as the jar
#2911 [23:54] <xales> anyway, if that worked, let me know
#2912 [23:54] <MagusSupreme> well yes, but the java command, will that work for the exe file?
#2913 [23:54] <Arkose> yes, but xales wants to rule out antivirus interference as a possible issue
#2914 [23:55] <xales> Possibly, but easier to use the jar
#2915 [23:56] <MagusSupreme> hmm, i get the error still
#2916 [23:56] <xales> Try it again, but make the numbers both 64
#2917 [23:56] <Kealper> uhh.....
#2918 [23:56] <xales> Kealper: ?
#2919 [23:57] <MagusSupreme> same
#2920 [23:57] <Kealper> i've tried before, it will fail to start at 128m max or less
#2921 [23:57] <xales> do you have any antivirus running?
#2922 [23:57] <MagusSupreme> not right now im not
#2923 [23:57] <MagusSupreme> shut it down
#2924 [23:57] <xales> what other programs do you have open?
#2925 [23:58] <MagusSupreme> mirc and firefox and command window
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#2928 [23:59] <xales> close Firefox
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#2930 [23:59] <xales> then try again