#1 [00:00] <Kealper> can he run it in-browser?
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#3 [00:01] <joe> has server been down all day?
#4 [00:01] <joe> has the*
#5 [00:01] <Arkose> the sever is semi-up
#6 [00:01] <Arkose> if you keep trying you may be able to get on
#7 [00:01] <xales> Kealper: yeah
#8 [00:02] <joe> ah
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#10 [00:02] <exp0> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/minecraft.net
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#14 [00:05] <MagusSupreme> still no good
#15 [00:06] <xales> www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
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#17 [00:07] <MagusSupreme> that worked...
#18 [00:07] <killking72> where do i find my minecraft texture folder?
#19 [00:07] <MaxEric93> Type %APPDATA% in your start menu
#20 [00:07] <MaxEric93> Then enter
#21 [00:07] <killking72> i'm there
#22 [00:07] <MaxEric93> Then go to your minecraft folder
#23 [00:07] <Kealper> open .minecraft
#24 [00:07] <killking72> im in the .minecraft folder
#25 [00:07] <Kealper> texturepacks
#26 [00:07] <killking72> k
#27 [00:07] <MaxEric93> texturepacks
#28 [00:07] <Kealper> textures go in .zip form in that folder
#29 [00:08] <killking72> i mean where is the basic texture
#30 [00:08] <Kealper> oh
#31 [00:08] <Kealper> those are actually scattered about inside the jar file itself :/
#32 [00:08] <killking72> i need to edit the glass and that's it
#33 [00:08] <MaxEric93> If you haven't uninstalled it it's in the game
#34 [00:08] <killking72> ugh
#35 [00:08] <killking72> wait what?
#36 [00:08] <killking72> in the game
#37 [00:09] <Kealper> yeah he just lost me too....lol
#38 [00:09] <MaxEric93> Yeah in mods and texture packs
#39 [00:09] <Kealper> killking72: got winrar?
#40 [00:09] <killking72> yea
#41 [00:09] <exp0> 7zip > rest
#42 [00:09] <killking72> i have 7zip
#43 [00:09] <Kealper> .minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#44 [00:09] <MCHelpBot> Thank you
#45 [00:09] <Kealper> in that jar
#46 [00:09] <Kealper> ....
#47 [00:09] <Kealper> .minecraft
#48 [00:09] <MCHelpBot> Thank you
#49 [00:09] <Kealper> stupid bot -.-
#50 [00:10] <lukegb> ...
#51 [00:10] <lukegb> WTH
#52 [00:10] <lukegb> .minecraft
#53 [00:10] <xales> fail
#54 [00:10] <MCHelpBot> Thank you
#55 [00:10] <xales> .chanoff
#56 [00:10] <MCHelpBot> Channel commands disabled
#57 [00:10] <lukegb> xales: what's it supposed to do?
#58 [00:10] <xales> It is a sexret
#59 [00:10] <xales> typo intended
#60 [00:10] <xales> >:)
#61 [00:10] <lukegb> I meant, why does it say 'Thank you'...
#62 [00:10] <xales> It is a sexret
#63 [00:11] <Kealper> it's a voxret
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#65 [00:11] <lukegb> quadret
#66 [00:11] <lukegb> septret
#67 [00:11] <Kealper> lol....UnTrueFoxes...
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#69 [00:19] <killking72> and where do i move mods to?
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#71 [00:20] <MagusSupreme> still got nothin x,x this is so depressing
#72 [00:21] <joe> poop
#73 [00:21] * xales kicked joe from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: 4POOP)
#74 [00:22] <MaxEric93> poowned
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#76 [00:22] <Mandreas> :[
#77 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Hey.. magicka isn't half bad
#78 [00:23] <Kealper> that was a totally random thing
#79 [00:23] <AndrewPH> MAGICKA IS THE WORST GAME EVER
#80 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#81 [00:24] <Kealper> what style of game is it?
#82 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> RPG, diablo-like
#83 [00:24] <Kealper> oh, meh
#84 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> up to 4 player co-op
#85 [00:24] <Kealper> Nox......
#86 [00:24] * MagusSupreme likes RPG games, hasnt had a good JRPG in months
#86 [00:25] <Arkose> tried European RPGs? ;)
#87 [00:26] * exp0 cries in a conrer.
#87 [00:27] <MagusSupreme> dun thinkso
#88 [00:27] * exp0 and spells poorly/
#88 [00:27] <Kealper> conrers ftw
#89 [00:27] <Arkose> don't be emo
#90 [00:27] <Arkose> hug a creeper and be happy
#91 [00:27] <Arkose> ssssss.
#92 [00:27] <MagusSupreme> till they hiss and go booom
#93 [00:27] <exp0> creepers gonna creep
#94 [00:28] * Kealper still grumbles at his spawn hut
#94 [00:28] <exp0> edit it?
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#96 [00:28] <exp0> like a champ
#97 [00:28] <Kealper> i can't remember what i had on those rules signs.....and all but two were lost -.-
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#100 [00:29] <exp0> no griefing was on 1
#101 [00:29] <exp0> can't you rollback to a second temp server?
#102 [00:29] <exp0> thats what backups are for
#103 [00:30] <Kealper> i could...but i'm not too worried about it lol
#104 [00:30] <thewesley> this sucks. the one night i convinced my friend to play minecraft, the site goes down.
#105 [00:30] <Kealper> :/
#106 [00:30] <exp0> it is up for me
#107 [00:30] * xales wonders if grentew is going to ask his question
#107 [00:30] <thewesley> well not the classic mode
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#109 [00:30] <thewesley> multiplayer server list is down
#110 [00:30] <exp0> I can get on
#111 [00:30] <thewesley> maybe my computer doesn't want me to play
#112 [00:31] <thewesley> i keep getting 503
#113 [00:32] <thewesley> well since i just got on, why is it down?
#114 [00:32] <Kealper> site is just acting up :/
#115 [00:32] <thewesley> lame.
#116 [00:32] <thewesley> notch is on vacation
#117 [00:32] <xales> what does that have to do with anything?
#118 [00:33] <thewesley> idk. but he is.
#119 [00:33] <xales> ._.
#120 [00:34] <xales> Notch isn't even the one working on the servers tuff
#121 [00:34] <xales> server stuff*
#122 [00:34] <thewesley> sorry for not knowing his role in his own company
#123 [00:35] <Kealper> he's actually just a dev at Mojang
#124 [00:35] <xales> ragequit
#125 [00:35] <Kealper> lol
#126 [00:38] <Kealper> so it is bad that exp0 has been playing on my server for like a week now and i just realized that it was him...i thought it was just some random guy lol
#127 [00:38] <xales> not really
#128 [00:38] <xales> though I do have something bad to share with you
#129 [00:38] <xales> what is the webkchat thing again?
#130 [00:39] <Kealper> he was in my chat and i was like...you should come into irc some time, join #MineCraftHelp, and help me fight ignorance, one step at a time!
#131 [00:39] <xales> lol
#132 [00:39] <Kealper> then he was just like i..am in irc....and have been...then i was like damn i feel dumb
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#137 [00:48] <relsqui> XD
#138 [00:48] <MagusSupreme> anything else that could fix this virtual machine error?
#139 [00:50] <xales> MagusSupreme: I'm guessing its an issue with the hardware being old/only barely able to run MC properly
#140 [00:51] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/MAyVY.jpg :<
#141 [00:51] <MagusSupreme> mmf x,x
#142 [00:55] <MagusSupreme> hmmm, and a vidcard probly wouldnt help me would it?
#143 [00:59] <MaxEric93> Do you have a java error when you launch minecraft ?
#144 [01:00] <xales> MaxEric93: ?
#145 [01:00] <MaxEric93> I read "virtual machine error" up here and i had this error too, so i think i may be able to help ;)
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#148 [01:02] <MagusSupreme> yah
#149 [01:02] <MagusSupreme> virtual machine is unable to start
#150 [01:03] <MaxEric93> What OS are you running on ?
#151 [01:03] <MagusSupreme> win xp
#152 [01:03] <MaxEric93> 32 or 64 ?
#153 [01:03] <MagusSupreme> hmm, not sure
#154 [01:03] <MagusSupreme> might be 32
#155 [01:03] <je007> the topic has messed up capitalization: it shoud be Minecraft help channel, not MineCraft help channel.
#156 [01:04] <MaxEric93> Right click => Computer => Properties
#157 [01:04] <MaxEric93> It will be written on the window next to your OS name
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#159 [01:05] <MaxEric93> Got it ?
#160 [01:06] <MagusSupreme> hmm click on my computer? or system in control panel
#161 [01:06] <MaxEric93> System i think
#162 [01:06] <MaxEric93> (i don't really remember XP)
#163 [01:07] <je007> it should be under system.
#164 [01:07] <MagusSupreme> win xp, home edition, version 2002 service pack three, hp pc, pent 4 cpu 2.4 ghz,1.49 ram
#165 [01:08] <MaxEric93> This is your config, isn't there something like "System type : 32/64 bits" ?
#166 [01:08] <je007> you have 32 bit.
#167 [01:08] <MaxEric93> Then go there and download the last version of java
#168 [01:08] <MaxEric93> http://www.java.com/en/download/chrome.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com
#169 [01:08] <je007> if it is 64-bit, it'll say x64 edition
#170 [01:09] <MaxEric93> If that don't work I maybe have another solution but try this link first
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#172 [01:10] <Lampshade> !paid Lampshade
#173 [01:10] <Lampshade> What?
#174 [01:10] <Lampshade> !pais Iguana
#175 [01:10] <MagusSupreme> i already updated to java 6.23
#176 [01:10] <xales> is lampshade your minecraft username? ._.
#177 [01:10] <Lampshade> Oh
#178 [01:10] <Lampshade> That could be it
#179 [01:11] <Lampshade> !paid Twiizer
#180 [01:11] <Lampshade> Bahh
#181 [01:11] <MaxEric93> !paid Maxeric93
#182 [01:11] <MagusSupreme> !paid Eonmoon
#183 [01:11] <MaxEric93> lol ?
#184 [01:11] * MagusSupreme shrugs ^^
#184 [01:11] <Lampshade> !paid Twiizer
#185 [01:11] <MagusSupreme> i got a beta from a friend as a three month early birthday gift
#186 [01:11] <Lampshade> Yes I have, Don't yu deny me!
#187 [01:12] <MaxEric93> So Magus, did you installed last java version ?
#188 [01:12] <MagusSupreme> but i cant run it, and yes, i did update to the latest one three times now,
#189 [01:12] <Lampshade> New java update?
#190 [01:12] <MaxEric93> Nope but Virtual Machine Error for him
#191 [01:12] <MagusSupreme> version 23
#192 [01:12] <MaxEric93> Trying to fix it
#193 [01:13] <Lampshade> Oh, yeah I get that too sometimes
#194 [01:13] <MaxEric93> open your console and type java -version
#195 [01:13] <MaxEric93> (just to be sure)
#196 [01:14] <MaxEric93> When I updated my java from a 32 bit version to a 64 bit it fixed the problem, so maybe you need to do the same
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#198 [01:15] <Miniviper> blaaaarg D:
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#200 [01:15] <Miniviper> hey guises whats up
#201 [01:15] <Kealper> rawr?
#202 [01:15] <Lampshade> !paid Twiizer
#203 [01:15] <Miniviper> I dont love you!
#204 [01:15] <Miniviper> ;D
#205 [01:15] <Lampshade> Thank You
#206 [01:16] <MagusSupreme> java version 1.6.0_23, hava<tm> se runtime envirement < build 1.6.0_23-b05> , java hotspot<tm> client vm <build 19.0-b09, mixed mode, shairing>
#207 [01:16] <Kealper> uhh
#208 [01:16] <Lampshade> Say it again Bitch
#209 [01:16] <Lampshade> !paid
#210 [01:16] <Lampshade> !paid Twiizer
#211 [01:16] <Lampshade> Yes, I have
#212 [01:16] <Miniviper> !paid me
#213 [01:16] <Lampshade> Once more
#214 [01:16] <Miniviper> :D
#215 [01:16] <Kealper> !disable
#216 [01:16] <Lampshade> !paid me
#217 [01:16] <Lampshade> Aww
#218 [01:16] <Kealper> >.>
#219 [01:16] <MaxEric93> Well Magus
#220 [01:16] <Miniviper> aw not fair *poke*
#221 [01:16] <Lampshade> Twiizer has paid for Minecraft!
#222 [01:16] <Lampshade> <Lampshade> Yes, I have
#223 [01:16] <MaxEric93> Go to this page and download the 64 version
#224 [01:16] <MaxEric93> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#225 [01:16] <MaxEric93> Hope that works
#226 [01:17] <Lampshade> Lol
#227 [01:17] <Lampshade> That's all I needed
#228 [01:17] <Kealper> !enable
#229 [01:17] <MaxEric93> !paid maxeric93
#230 [01:17] <Miniviper> gawd guises first my computer sucks now I cant play minecraft online? My world is ending!!
#231 [01:17] <Arkose> DDoS Notch again.
#232 [01:17] <Arkose> that's sure to work.
#233 [01:18] <Kealper> why does everyone feel the need to check if they paid when they know they paid?
#234 [01:18] <MaxEric93> Just to feel secure :)
#235 [01:18] <Kealper> ._.
#236 [01:18] <xales> ^
#237 [01:18] <Miniviper> idk it makes me feel like I rule the world
#238 [01:18] <Miniviper> just kidding
#239 [01:18] <Arkose> if you can't get onto multiplayer, you haven't paid. Or authentication is down again. One of the two. ;)
#240 [01:18] * MagusSupreme pulls out a roll of duck tape
#240 [01:19] <MaxEric93> Workin' know Magus ?
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#242 [01:19] <Miniviper> My computer cant download minecraft lol so I play the online version... its down :(
#243 [01:19] <Arkose> ur doin ir rong lol
#244 [01:20] <MagusSupreme> which is 64 edition?
#245 [01:20] <Miniviper> how...
#246 [01:20] <MaxEric93> First one
#247 [01:20] <MaxEric93> Windows version :)
#248 [01:20] <MaxEric93> ~10MB
#249 [01:22] <Miniviper> so many mods online lol
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#251 [01:22] <MagusSupreme> friggen fly >.>
#252 [01:23] <Odyssey31> Any Tech support Please?
#253 [01:23] <Kealper> "Don't ask to ask, just ask!"
#254 [01:23] * MagusSupreme swings at it repeatedly
#254 [01:23] <Arkose> fire away :)
#255 [01:23] <Arkose> no drops from the fly. Real life sucks.
#256 [01:23] <Kealper> does aubot still say that? hmm...
#257 [01:24] <Kealper> indeed it does
#258 [01:24] <Odyssey31> I've tried mine craft, and it lags pretty bad. But it's weird because, sometimes for like a minute or two, it's completely smooth and great. but most of the time it's soo laggy.
#259 [01:24] <Miniviper> do you own it?
#260 [01:24] <Odyssey31> I've set Fancy, to Fast, and set the rendering to Tiny.
#261 [01:24] <Miniviper> !paid Odyssey31
#262 [01:24] <Odyssey31> Yes.
#263 [01:24] <Odyssey31> No*
#264 [01:24] <Miniviper> D:
#265 [01:24] <Miniviper> ummm yeah about that
#266 [01:24] <Odyssey31> Free version.
#267 [01:24] <Odyssey31> Or something.
#268 [01:25] <MaxEric93> The online version
#269 [01:25] <Odyssey31> idk sec.
#270 [01:25] <Odyssey31> Play Minecraft Classic (Outdated, but free): Single player | Multi player
#271 [01:25] <Odyssey31> ?
#272 [01:25] <MaxEric93> Yeah free version
#273 [01:25] <xales> Odyssey31: What are your computer's specs?
#274 [01:26] <Odyssey31> Windows 7 64-bit, AMD Anthlon(tm) Processor TF-20, ~1.6Hz Memory 2048mb
#275 [01:27] <xales> Graphics card?
#276 [01:27] <Odyssey31> ATI Randeon HD 3200 Graphics
#277 [01:27] <xales> Any antivirus running?
#278 [01:27] <Odyssey31> Avast.
#279 [01:27] <Odyssey31> So, Yea.
#280 [01:27] <xales> Sounds like the CPU bottlenecking to me =\
#281 [01:27] <Odyssey31> Bottle Necking..?
#282 [01:28] <Kealper> wow aubot's lastseen db is pretty big..i should set it to clear names out sooner :/
#283 [01:28] <xales> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bottlenecking
#284 [01:29] <Kealper> yea if that is a 1.6ghz single core it is definately the problem, and an hd3200 without dedicated vram is pretty bad, too
#285 [01:29] <Odyssey31> I've played other FPS games, like RS. and It's pretty smooth.
#286 [01:29] <Kealper> the gfx chipset can play mc on lowest, but idk about that cpu :/
#287 [01:30] <Kealper> RS does not have a totally changable enviroment, it's all static
#288 [01:30] <Kealper> and it's code is probably far more optimized than minecraft's :/
#289 [01:30] <Odyssey31> Is ther anything i can do to make it better?
#290 [01:30] <Odyssey31> there*
#291 [01:30] <MaxEric93> Magus how 'bout know ?
#292 [01:31] <Kealper> not really....if it lags on lowest, short of getting new hardware, there is nothing that can be done :/
#293 [01:31] <Odyssey31> It seems like i could do something, because for a minute or 2 it's 100% completely smooth.
#294 [01:32] <Odyssey31> and i'm on a laptop..
#295 [01:32] <Odyssey31> :(
#296 [01:33] <Kealper> yeah, not too much that can be done then :/
#297 [01:33] <Arkose> Odyssey31: reducing background processes could help. http://netsquirrel.com/msconfig/msconfig_win7.html
#298 [01:33] <Arkose> you'll need to restart to see the effects.
#299 [01:33] <Arkose> but that will only help so much.
#300 [01:33] <Odyssey31> And by doing that what effects will it have on my computer?
#301 [01:33] <Kealper> although....you said you were on windows 7....disabling effects like Aero and stuff might also help
#302 [01:33] <Odyssey31> not sure how i can do that.
#303 [01:33] <Kealper> msconfig is some bad juju to mess with if you don't know what you are doing
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#305 [01:34] <Kealper> Odyssey31: go to your search thing on the start meny
#306 [01:34] <Kealper> menu*
#307 [01:35] <Odyssey31> then?
#308 [01:35] <Kealper> type adjust the
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#310 [01:35] <Kealper> there should be a thing in there about adjusting the performance and appearance of windows
#311 [01:35] <Odyssey31> Yes, i clicked it.
#312 [01:35] <Kealper> select Adjust for best performance and press ok
#313 [01:36] <Odyssey31> It set it to like.. Windows 98 xdd
#314 [01:36] <Kealper> try playing it now
#315 [01:37] <Odyssey31> Okay.
#316 [01:37] <Kealper> if it still lags to crap then i guess you can set that back at what it was, no need to have it look like crap if it makes no difference :/
#317 [01:37] <Odyssey31> Yeaa :)
#318 [01:38] <Odyssey31> what aould happen if i set it to "Best apperence"?
#319 [01:38] <Kealper> then it would look great, but probably take a hit out of game performance on low-powered pcs like your laptop :/
#320 [01:39] <Arkose> DirectX-based games automatically disable Aero when running in fullscreen mode (which is almost every game). OpenGL-based games like Minecraft don't do this.
#321 [01:39] <Arkose> you can disable it on a per-application method from the program's Compatibility tab (right click, select Properites)
#322 [01:39] <Kealper> Odyssey31 said they also play RS, which is OpenGL
#323 [01:40] <Odyssey31> Thank you Kealper it's running a lot smoother!
#324 [01:41] <Kealper> Arkose: that would not work though, since it's classic, not beta....so you'd have to make it bork performance for whenever the browser was open :/
#325 [01:41] <Kealper> bork appearance*
#326 [01:41] <Arkose> ooooh, right
#327 [01:42] <Odyssey31> annd as soon as i say it's running smooth it's now laggy.
#328 [01:42] <Odyssey31> :p
#329 [01:42] <Kealper> :(
#330 [01:42] <Kealper> what kind of laggy, exactly?
#331 [01:42] <Odyssey31> Hm, if i updated my graphics card would it help.
#332 [01:42] <Kealper> like....everything is choppy? or everything is delayed? (placing blocks, breaking, etc)
#333 [01:43] <Kealper> can't update those (usually) on laptops :/
#334 [01:43] <Odyssey31> Like. if i move my finger acrost the finger pad it wont move untill like 6 - 7 seconds later. (sometimes less than that)
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#336 [01:43] <Odyssey31> choppy.
#337 [01:43] <Kealper> oh :/
#338 [01:43] <Odyssey31> Not a good Sign? ;/
#339 [01:44] <Kealper> means that laptop must just not be cut out to play minecraft well :/
#340 [01:45] <Kealper> minecraft tends to be quite resource-heavy, since it's got so many individual changable things on the screen at any given time
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#342 [01:45] <DopeGhoti> !isdown www.minecraft.net
#343 [01:45] <crickets> DopeGhoti: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#344 [01:45] <DopeGhoti> Hrm.
#345 [01:45] <Mikau> Minecraft is up and down right now.
#346 [01:45] <Arkose> that check is just for the website itself though, not services
#347 [01:46] <Mikau> It's back and forth
#348 [01:46] <DopeGhoti> shroedinger's site, eh?
#349 [01:46] <Arkose> heh, sort of
#350 [01:46] <Kealper> if mc is behind a load balencer, that would lie like a boss, too
#351 [01:46] <Odyssey31> thanks Kealper you're a lot of help. Do you run a mind craft server? :)
#352 [01:47] <Odyssey31> Minecraft*
#353 [01:47] <Kealper> not a classic one, i used to though lol
#354 [01:47] <Odyssey31> =p
#355 [01:47] <Guest11126> So the site is up, but you can't connect via the client?
#356 [01:47] <Odyssey31> Do you run a beta one? client.
#357 [01:47] <Mikau> Kealper is actually a minecraft server himself.
#358 [01:47] <Kealper> yeah, i run a beta server
#359 [01:47] * Mikau punches Kealper's leg and runs off with a knee block.
#359 [01:48] <Kealper> :O
#360 [01:48] <Guest11126> Yeah, I'm running beta client. I keep trying to log in and it says 'Can't connect to Minecraft.net'.
#361 [01:48] <Odyssey31> Could I try it if i bought the beta? ;D
#362 [01:48] <Kealper> you'd be welcome to, but the beta client is more resource-heavy than classic :/
#363 [01:49] <xales> much more
#364 [01:49] <xales> :(
#365 [01:49] <Odyssey31> I'll try it on my other computer. It's a Desktop, and it should run better.
#366 [01:50] <Kealper> advapi32.dll.....challenge accepted!
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#368 [01:51] <Kealper> oh cool...that library can do hashes, too....
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#372 [01:59] <MagusSupreme> x.x still gettin the virtual machine error
#373 [02:01] <MaxEric93> You rebooted your comp'?
#374 [02:02] <MagusSupreme> yes
#375 [02:02] <MaxEric93> Hmm
#376 [02:02] <MagusSupreme> will try another reboot
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#379 [02:04] <Ceil_1516> Hi! Anybody here experienced with repairing server world files? Had a BSOD.
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#381 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Open in MCedit, resave, load up again
#382 [02:05] <Ceil_1516> I will try that out and get back to ya.
#383 [02:06] <hexparrot> rdiff-backup + checkworld.py like a pro
#384 [02:06] <Kealper> if it's just the level.dat that is corrupt, then there is a backup level.dat that the server generates when it starts successfully
#385 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes doesn't work
#386 [02:06] <Ceil_1516> I have my server load information here -> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=169256
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#388 [02:07] <Kealper> yeah, that only fixes problems with level.dat, not corrupt chunks, you need MCEdit or similar for that :/
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#390 [02:07] <Ceil_1516> It is quite unfortunate that my server runs on a pc that BSOD's all the time :(
#391 [02:07] <blizzzardstorm> so i cant open the server file... what am i doing wrong other then failing
#392 [02:07] <hexparrot> failing
#393 [02:07] <Kealper> what server file?
#394 [02:08] <blizzzardstorm> of the webby
#395 [02:08] <blizzzardstorm> instead of the normal run save option i get a find save
#396 [02:08] <hexparrot> imo, dont use windows for mc hosting
#397 [02:08] <Kealper> the downloaded minecraft_server?
#398 [02:08] <blizzzardstorm> but i wanna
#399 [02:08] <aetherian> hey
#400 [02:08] <blizzzardstorm> ya the minecraft_server
#401 [02:09] <Kealper> uhh...so save it in the folder that you want to have all it's stuff in, and then run it from there
#402 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the minecraft_server.exe or .jar?
#403 [02:09] <Ceil_1516> About MCEdit, how exactly do I go about loading a server world? Should I copy the folder over to the default save directory as say.. World4 (unused slot) then load it with MCEdit?
#404 [02:09] <blizzzardstorm> .exe but i guess i need to learn to read and actually finish the paragraph
#405 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> No, there should be an option to browse to the directory where you have the server's world
#406 [02:09] <Kealper> Ceil_1516: there is an option to choose a custom world
#407 [02:11] <Ceil_1516> Found it, thanks Kealper.
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#409 [02:11] <Ceil_1516> So I have chunks missing in my world, when I save it the server will fix these missing chunks and create new biomes right?
#410 [02:12] <Kealper> it should make it so the server is able to generate clean versions of those corrupt chunks
#411 [02:12] <Ceil_1516> awesome.
#412 [02:12] <Ceil_1516> One last big question.. is there a good solid backup utility for server worlds?
#413 [02:13] <xales> rsync
#414 [02:13] <xales> err
#415 [02:13] <xales> but not on Windows
#416 [02:13] <Kealper> depends on your OS
#417 [02:13] <xales> ^
#418 [02:13] <Kealper> Bvckup is ultra-awesome if you are on Windows
#419 [02:14] <hexparrot> rsync is excellent
#420 [02:14] <Kealper> man AES256 encryption is so incredibly fast
#421 [02:15] <lyude> I use a backup plugin for bukkit
#422 [02:15] <Kealper> it's encrypting stuff in about 0.1ms...
#423 [02:15] <xales> Kealper, by the way.
#424 [02:15] <xales> http://library.linode.com/linux-tools/utilities/screen
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#426 [02:16] <Kealper> what's this for? lol
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#428 [02:17] <Kealper> please don't say screen lol
#429 [02:17] <Ceil_1516> Is the linux server better than the windows server? Was thinking about using an old pc for a linux box to avoid these BSOD problems.
#430 [02:17] <Kealper> yea it's better
#431 [02:17] <Kealper> if you know linux, though
#432 [02:18] <Kealper> java runs faster under unix based OSes
#433 [02:18] <hexparrot> linux is allround better
#434 [02:18] <hexparrot> even if you get one of those desktop linuxes, probably is still better than desktop windows for servering
#435 [02:18] <Mikau> Badass Shark of Dooooooom
#436 [02:19] <xales> KDE4 is like the Vista of Linux D:
#437 [02:19] <DopeGhoti> hah
#438 [02:19] <hexparrot> so youre saying kde4 is the BESSSTTTT?
#439 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Hate to ask what the WinME of *nix is
#440 [02:19] <Mikau> Why doesn't Ubuntu come with pidgin now?
#441 [02:19] <Ceil_1516> Yeah.. I don't know linux. I may do it for the laugh though.
#442 [02:19] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: Mandrake.
#443 [02:19] * GreyVulpine snerks
#443 [02:19] <hexparrot> tinycore
#444 [02:20] <Ceil_1516> Last time I ran Linux on a computer it would never load properly after the second day. Scary thought.
#445 [02:20] <hexparrot> yeah, id recommend MinWin then
#446 [02:21] <hexparrot> jsut get yourself a version of windows that has like....80% of it stripped out
#447 [02:21] <Kealper> Ceil_1516: i'll probably be shamed out of the channel, but just throw Ubuntu on it then, it's pretty hard to bork stuff on that
#448 [02:21] <Mikau> Pidgin was a hi5 for Ubuntu
#449 [02:21] <Mikau> now it comes with like, something stupid.
#450 [02:21] <DopeGhoti> You can still install pidgin
#451 [02:21] <Mikau> That wants me to chat on twitter / facebook
#452 [02:21] <Mikau> I already did
#453 [02:21] <Mikau> I'm just sayin'
#454 [02:21] <DopeGhoti> Empathy is part of GNOME, which is why they made the switch.
#455 [02:22] <DopeGhoti> (Kealper: Ubuntu is a perfectly fine recommendation. Kubuntu, on the other hand (: )
#456 [02:22] <Mikau> Gwibber Social Client
#457 [02:22] <hexparrot> DSL is best
#458 [02:23] <Kealper> i actually used to like KDE back in the day
#459 [02:23] <Kealper> it's nasty now
#460 [02:23] <Kealper> i like Mint's modded Gnome though
#461 [02:24] <xales> Kubuntu >.>
#462 [02:24] <hexparrot> im on mint now. i kinda want to vomit
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#464 [02:25] <xales> Kealper, you haven't truely used Linux until you try a distro that isn't fluffy
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#466 [02:25] <Kealper> i like fluffy :<
#467 [02:25] <aetherian> heh
#468 [02:25] <xales> Try a distro that doesn't do everything for you
#469 [02:25] <xales> Only install what you use
#470 [02:25] <xales> It is much faster
#471 [02:26] <hexparrot> ^ hes talking about tinycore linux
#472 [02:26] <Kealper> why else would i be on win 7 right now? sheesh
#473 [02:26] <xales> My computer goes from GRUB stage 3 -> init level 5 in about 6 seconds
#474 [02:26] <Kealper> wow lol
#475 [02:26] <hexparrot> anybody here actually use splashtop?
#476 [02:26] <xales> another 4 seconds for X to fully load
#477 [02:27] <Ceil_1516> holy crap.. my server is fixed! Thanks Kealper!
#478 [02:27] <Kealper> grey suggested it first lol
#479 [02:27] <Mikau> If I was a girl, I'd throw my panties at Kealper.
#480 [02:27] <xales> Kealper: You have no idea how fast/lean Linux can get when compile out everything in your kernel
#481 [02:27] <xales> I don't need an initrd
#482 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> ?
#483 [02:27] <xales> etc
#484 [02:27] <Kealper> i'm not sure what to think of that, but i will assume it's a good thing
#485 [02:28] <hexparrot> initrds are for us pros
#486 [02:28] <Ceil_1516> HAHAHA.. now I have huge rectangular mountains everywhere.
#487 [02:28] <Kealper> xales: if i had a spare cd drive i'd totally dive in to some hardcore linux lol, i've got a spare shitbox not doing anything
#488 [02:28] <Kealper> o.o
#489 [02:28] <hexparrot> damn small linux ^
#490 [02:28] <xales> Kealper: Do it on your desktop? :(
#491 [02:29] <xales> Kealper, back-up Mint and replace with good Linux
#492 [02:29] <Kealper> i can't afford the space to add a partition for it on my main comp :/
#493 [02:29] <Kealper> only got a 250 gig hdd in this one, and it's always almost full
#494 [02:29] <xales> isn't Mint on the main computer?
#495 [02:29] <aetherian> kealps, you run mint?
#496 [02:29] <Mikau> I think we should treat everyday activities like rock concerts
#497 [02:30] <Kealper> it is, but it's not on a real partition, it's just on the mint4win thing
#498 [02:30] <Mikau> BREAKFAST YEAH!
#499 [02:30] <xales> :o
#500 [02:30] * Mikau throws his panties across the kitchen
#500 [02:30] <hexparrot> i dont get it
#501 [02:30] <Kealper> lol
#502 [02:30] <aetherian> wutwurt
#503 [02:30] <xales> Kealper, not even 10GB spare?
#504 [02:31] <Kealper> idk.....maybe....
#505 [02:31] * Kealper checks his disk usage
#505 [02:31] <Kealper> 18.0gb free u.u
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#507 [02:31] <hexparrot> thats enough for 6000 installations of microcorelinux
#508 [02:32] <aetherian> lol
#509 [02:32] <Kealper> lol
#510 [02:32] <aetherian> tiiiiiny
#511 [02:32] <xales> What do you have using all the space?
#512 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> pr0n
#513 [02:32] <Kealper> games, programs...etc
#514 [02:32] <xales> I deleted games I don't play and had 80GB more
#515 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> and pr0n
#516 [02:32] <Kealper> lol
#517 [02:33] <aetherian> *gay pr0n
#518 [02:33] <Kealper> i'd probably be able to free a ton if i ax'd all my games i don't play anymore
#519 [02:33] <Kealper> actually shit imma see what is taking all that space...
#520 [02:34] <aetherian> tinycore looks kinda annoying to use o.o
#521 [02:34] <hexparrot> how so
#522 [02:34] <aetherian> there is such a thing as too tiny.
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#524 [02:34] <hexparrot> tiny > micro
#525 [02:34] <xales> Kealper: Google "space monger combo" and get the old free version
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#527 [02:35] <Kealper> WinDirStat is what i use
#528 [02:35] <xales> ._.
#529 [02:35] <Kealper> it works quite nice
#530 [02:35] * xales is usig old fashioned stuff
#530 [02:35] <Elvang> /msg NickServ AUTH 685952756
#531 [02:35] <Ceil_1516> I constantly get huge holes (chunk errors?) when I load my server. What can prevent this?
#532 [02:35] <Elvang> Meh
#533 [02:35] <hexparrot> i use 'du /'
#534 [02:35] <Kealper> /msg nickserv identify hunter2
#535 [02:36] <hexparrot> and then i just do mental math
#536 [02:36] <Elvang> Really annoying having to re-register every 30 days of inactivity :\
#537 [02:36] <aetherian> is there any smaller than tinycore?
#538 [02:36] <xales> Ceil_1516: Depends on why you get them
#539 [02:36] <hexparrot> microcore is smaller
#540 [02:36] <xales> aetherian: Yes
#541 [02:36] <aetherian> name?
#542 [02:36] <xales> it isn't called anything
#543 [02:36] <Kealper> how big is microcore?
#544 [02:36] <aetherian> it is the linux that exists withing us a-\
#545 [02:36] <hexparrot> 6mb
#546 [02:36] <xales> you can just disable every goddamn kernel option
#547 [02:36] <xales> so that nothing actually works
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#549 [02:37] <xales> it still boots, but can't even run an init properly I'd imagine
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#551 [02:37] <xales> would be ~2mb ish
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#553 [02:37] <aetherian> fine
#554 [02:37] <aetherian> what's the smallest linux that works
#555 [02:37] <hexparrot> 6mb with udev + busybox is probably as good as it gets
#556 [02:37] <xales> works as far as...?
#557 [02:37] <aetherian> as far as a main do everything OS
#558 [02:37] <xales> um
#559 [02:37] <xales> LOL
#560 [02:38] <Kealper> O.o
#561 [02:38] <xales> small != do everything
#562 [02:38] <aetherian> nonono
#563 [02:38] <aetherian> everything NEEDED
#564 [02:38] <hexparrot> im pretty small IRL. im not that limited
#565 [02:38] <Ceil_1516> xales: What could the reasons be? I am running the server and the game on the same pc, but that is about all I can think of.
#566 [02:38] <xales> It already has everything needed, aetherian, and not much more
#567 [02:38] <xales> Ceil_1516: What are the specs of the computer?
#568 [02:38] <aetherian> everything NEEDED
#569 [02:38] <aetherian> ack
#570 [02:38] <aetherian> dammit
#571 [02:38] <aetherian> I hate that function
#572 [02:38] <aetherian> I meant to say, so nothing smaller?
#573 [02:39] <xales> lolno
#574 [02:40] <Kealper> i think my router firmware is under 2mb, but that only works on risc cpus lol
#575 [02:40] <Ceil_1516> xales: q6600 (not oc) with 4gb 800mhz, win7 64bit, hitachi 7200rpm 500gig
#576 [02:40] <xales> what is the clock speed on the CPU?
#577 [02:40] <Ceil_1516> 2.4
#578 [02:40] <xales> how many cores?
#579 [02:40] <Ceil_1516> 4
#580 [02:40] <xales> are you connecting using the local address?
#581 [02:40] <hexparrot> so whats the best linux you think i could put onto my new touchscreen strongARM
#582 [02:40] <Ceil_1516> yep
#583 [02:41] <hexparrot> its like...64mb of ram and 400mhz
#584 [02:41] <xales> how often do you get the missing chunks?
#585 [02:41] <Ceil_1516> once every 30min or more.
#586 [02:41] <Ceil_1516> sometimes immeidately
#587 [02:41] <Kealper> hexparrot: puppylinux....doo et!
#588 [02:41] <Kealper> wait, arm
#589 [02:41] <Kealper> no idea
#590 [02:42] <Ceil_1516> xales - I am not the only person getting them. Sometimes those who connect get them.
#591 [02:42] <Kealper> getting what?
#592 [02:43] <xales> oh
#593 [02:43] <xales> that is somewhat normal
#594 [02:43] <Ceil_1516> oh. Probably fragmentation due to so many files.
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#596 [02:45] <relsqui> yay. I just paid forward the gift of minecraft :)
#597 [02:45] <Arkose> :)
#598 [02:45] <hexparrot> i want one
#599 [02:45] <Kealper> :O
#600 [02:45] <hexparrot> anybody here ever try playing minecraft with a wiimote? then cut their wrists?
#601 [02:46] <Kealper> can't say i have? lol
#602 [02:46] <hexparrot> tried it today. to help get past the boredom
#603 [02:46] <Kealper> wow
#604 [02:46] <Arkose> heh
#605 [02:46] <hexparrot> jumping isnt easy
#606 [02:47] <Arkose> haha
#607 [02:47] <hexparrot> falling is though
#608 [02:47] <Kealper> i love how my windows folder is like 18.2gb....now THAT is a windows install lol
#609 [02:47] <relsqui> heh
#610 [02:47] <hexparrot> like 8gb of that is the windows ISO
#611 [02:47] <Kealper> eh?
#612 [02:47] <Arkose> also if you've got Vista/7 WinSxS misreports its size somewhat, IIRC
#613 [02:48] <Arkose> from Vista onwards all Windows files for all versions are included in the install
#614 [02:48] <hexparrot> from vista / on, you no longer ever need the DVD after, theyre stored on hd
#615 [02:48] <Arkose> whereas with XP and earlier installing new features needed the disc
#616 [02:48] <hexparrot> ..jynx
#617 [02:48] <Kealper> lol
#618 [02:48] <Kealper> that, i thought you meant a physical iso of it
#619 [02:49] <Arkose> theoretically speaking it could make one if they wanted to. It can already do so for recovery discs.
#620 [02:50] <hexparrot> i met somebody yesterday who used AOL dial up
#621 [02:50] <hexparrot> uses*
#622 [02:50] <xales> hexparrot: :o
#623 [02:50] <Arkose> dial-up users are common in New Zealand. :/
#624 [02:50] <xales> such people exist? :o
#625 [02:50] <hexparrot> but....aol dialup?
#626 [02:50] <xales> AOL dialup exists?
#627 [02:50] <Kealper> did they wear a tophat and ride in a horse-drawn buggy, too?
#628 [02:50] <Arkose> AOL exists? ;)
#629 [02:50] <hexparrot> double whammy of not respecting your life?
#630 [02:51] <hexparrot> new zealand?
#631 [02:51] <hexparrot> dont you guys have that toothbrush fence?
#632 [02:51] <hexparrot> like 60 toothbrushes long?
#633 [02:51] <Arkose> um, sort of yes
#634 [02:52] <Arkose> but it keeps the animals in so it's all good :)
#635 [02:54] <Kealper> 60.7gb free now
#636 [02:55] <xales> Kealper: \o/
#637 [02:55] <aetherian> ;o
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#639 [02:55] <Kealper> but now.....i really don't feel like making a partition and accidentally borking my windows :/
#640 [02:56] <hexparrot> vm4tw
#641 [02:56] <xales> Kealper, >.>
#642 [02:56] * Kealper sighs at vms
#642 [02:56] <DopeGhoti> VMs have their place, surely
#643 [02:56] <hexparrot> dont sigh at vms!
#644 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> but they are overrated for many many many contexts.
#645 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> (such as, say, game servers)
#646 [02:57] <hexparrot> if i didnt have VMs , i wouldnt have OSX on my win7 machine
#647 [02:57] <hexparrot> how dare you dope
#648 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> Oh, I dare.
#649 [02:57] <hexparrot> do you dare, though?
#650 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> I double-dog dare.
#651 [02:57] <Kealper> vms are garbage for testing out the user experience of an os :/
#652 [02:57] <aetherian> what do you dare, anyway?
#653 [02:58] <DopeGhoti> s/for testing out the user experience of an os// # FTFY (:
#654 [02:58] <hexparrot> well, if it werent for VMs I wouldnt know how crappy Chrome OS is
#655 [02:58] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: I dare to assert that VMs have their place, but are overrated for many contexts, such as game servers.
#656 [02:58] <hexparrot> cause i would NEVEr install that on a desktop
#657 [02:58] <Kealper> lol DopeGhoti that took a sec to register what you meant :P
#658 [02:58] <aetherian> lolchromeos
#659 [02:58] <DopeGhoti> hexparrot: ChromeOS isn't _meant_ for a desktop, so.. good?
#660 [02:58] <hexparrot> yeah, but i dont have tablets lying around
#661 [02:59] <hexparrot> i still want to see what things are like
#662 [02:59] <aetherian> seems more like tablet/netbooky
#663 [02:59] <DopeGhoti> ^this.
#664 [02:59] <Kealper> chromeos is mostly for use on slate pcs that have wifi/3g
#665 [02:59] <Kealper> it's like a heavy "cloud" version of android
#666 [03:00] <DopeGhoti> and for people that use web apps almost exclusively.
#667 [03:00] <Arkose> heh, Chrome OS
#668 [03:00] <DopeGhoti> it'd be great for my GF, who only uses the internet for Gmail and Facebook, for example.
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#670 [03:00] <hexparrot> i call bs on that
#671 [03:00] <hexparrot> you dont have a gf!
#672 [03:00] <DopeGhoti> ..right.
#673 [03:00] <hexparrot> well, thanks for handling that line in stride
#674 [03:01] <DopeGhoti> I do what I can.
#675 [03:01] <aetherian> o.o
#676 [03:01] <Kealper> this channel does not reflect the general internetizens, most of us have lives lol
#677 [03:01] <aetherian> we do?
#678 [03:01] <xales> "most" ._.
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#680 [03:01] <aetherian> long time no see, grey
#681 [03:02] <DopeGhoti> \msg chanserv kick #MineCraftHelp hexparrot har har oops that's the wrong slash which key is 'home'; that's theone above Shift, right?
#682 [03:02] <Kealper> a DC?! that's a p20 in #idle, sir!
#683 [03:02] <hexparrot> i feel like IRC never is populated by the general public..
#684 [03:02] <hexparrot> even the general internet public.
#685 [03:02] <DopeGhoti> wait, did I type that out loud?
#686 [03:02] <Arkose> the general public uses MSN or something ;)
#687 [03:02] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: speaking of IdleRPG, you probably play ProgressQuest too, no?
#688 [03:02] <Arkose> or, well, Twitter and Facebook and such now too
#689 [03:02] <xales> actually, the Mibbit population here
#690 [03:02] <xales> is the general public
#691 [03:02] <aetherian> most "regular people" don't know what irc is
#692 [03:02] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: niet
#693 [03:02] <xales> I get this shit every day D:
#694 [03:02] <Arkose> heh, Mibbit
#695 [03:03] <xales> err
#696 [03:03] <xales> sec opening logfile
#697 [03:03] <xales> closed that query :<
#698 [03:03] <aetherian> I swear, my friends no nothing about the internet
#699 [03:03] <xales> big paste but I don't care
#700 [03:03] <xales> 02:31:17<mindfreak> hello?
#701 [03:03] <xales> 02:31:22<xales> hello
#702 [03:03] <xales> 02:31:27<mindfreak> u can hear me
#703 [03:03] <xales> 02:31:30<xales> yes
#704 [03:03] <xales> 02:31:41<mindfreak> this is the onlyway i can speak
#705 [03:03] <xales> 02:31:55<xales> Did you read the topic in the channel? You need to register
#706 [03:03] <xales> 02:32:01<xales> /msg nickserv register password email
#707 [03:03] <xales> 02:32:03<mindfreak> why
#708 [03:03] <xales> 02:32:32<mindfreak> i didntneed toregister for anyotherchannel
#709 [03:03] <Kealper> AuBot is probably freaking the heck out right now lol
#710 [03:03] <aetherian> c-c-c-combobreaker
#711 [03:03] <xales> he then ragequits 5 minutes later
#712 [03:03] <aetherian> aww
#713 [03:03] <aetherian> you ruined my combobreaker, kealper
#714 [03:04] <aetherian> >:
#715 [03:04] <DopeGhoti> Boy, #MineCraft sure was missing out, sounds like.
#716 [03:04] <Kealper> lol
#717 [03:04] <xales> I want akill Mibbit@* :<
#718 [03:04] <Kealper> speaking of #minecraft.....think aubot could do some good in there if it was op'd with it's mod_nospam?
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#721 [03:05] <aetherian> /ban *!*@*, would work
#722 [03:05] <xales> I think it would be a bit overkill, Kealper
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#724 [03:05] <xales> aetherian: nobody uses /ban
#725 [03:05] <xales> noob
#726 [03:05] <Kealper> meh
#727 [03:05] <xales> :<
#728 [03:05] <aetherian> fine
#729 [03:05] <aetherian> /mode +b
#730 [03:05] <xales> also, akill != ban
#731 [03:05] <aetherian> I know
#732 [03:05] <Kealper> yeah, it's /b on REAL clients
#733 [03:05] <xales> Kealper: Why ban without kick
#734 [03:05] <xales> /kb
#735 [03:05] <aetherian> who needs kick
#736 [03:05] <aetherian> pshaw
#737 [03:06] <Kealper> /ko ftw
#738 [03:06] <xales> lololol
#739 [03:06] <Kealper> don't DC!
#740 [03:06] <xales> can't talk now!
#741 [03:06] <aetherian> nooo
#742 [03:06] * aetherian spams to make up for the period of not talking
#742 [03:07] <Kealper> aetherian: talk a lot in a few sec
#743 [03:07] <xales> like this
#744 [03:07] <xales> lol
#745 [03:07] <xales> lo
#746 [03:07] <Kealper> you get a cookie
#747 [03:07] <xales> lol
#748 [03:07] <xales> lol
#749 [03:07] <aetherian> that's not how I spam
#750 [03:07] <aetherian> I use greybot to spam
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#753 [03:07] <xales> lol
#754 [03:07] <aetherian> lol
#755 [03:07] <xales> What the fuck is up
#756 [03:07] <xales> with people in #help
#757 [03:07] <xales> changing nick every 5 minutes
#758 [03:08] <xales> 03:05:06 -!- Xingjio3 is now known as Xingjio4
#759 [03:08] <xales> 03:05:10 -!- Xingjio2 is now known as Xingjio3
#760 [03:08] <xales> 03:05:13 -!- Xingjio4 is now known as Xingjio2
#761 [03:08] <aetherian> 4-3-2-1-BOOm
#762 [03:08] <DopeGhoti> It's a form of spam
#763 [03:08] <Kealper> kick him and tell him to stop nickspamming :/
#764 [03:08] <xales> I'm disinclined to do anything about it
#765 [03:08] <xales> since nobody else there has
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#768 [03:09] <Kealper> fine, be that way!
#769 [03:09] <xales> all fucking day this guy is changing nicks
#770 [03:09] <xales> 01:59:14 -!- Blackthorne is now known as iuraciviumPlusOne
#771 [03:09] <xales> 02:01:35 -!- iuraciviumPlusOne is now known as XingjioSquared
#772 [03:09] <xales> 02:02:09 -!- XingjioSquared is now known as XingjioDividedByZero
#773 [03:09] <xales> 02:09:33 -!- XingjioDividedByZero is now known as Xingjio1
#774 [03:09] <netherian> sissy
#775 [03:09] <netherian> ow
#776 [03:09] <netherian> my eyes
#777 [03:10] <netherian> spam
#778 [03:10] <Kealper> ban him then, i would
#779 [03:10] <xales> go to #help
#780 [03:10] <Elvang> Maybe he has DID?
#781 [03:10] <xales> look at ban list
#782 [03:10] <xales> :<
#783 [03:10] <DopeGhoti> "/mode +b *!*@*.sbcglobal.net"
#784 [03:11] <DopeGhoti> they all have 2Wire modems anywho
#785 [03:11] <xales> lol
#786 [03:11] <netherian> lol
#787 [03:11] <netherian> jerk
#788 [03:14] <Kealper> i wonder if i can make my own compression format
#789 [03:14] <xales> Don't try
#790 [03:14] <xales> bad idea
#791 [03:14] <Kealper> are they really that annoying?
#792 [03:14] <Kealper> because it doesn't seem that hard to do
#793 [03:14] <xales> yes
#794 [03:14] <xales> good ones
#795 [03:14] <xales> hard
#796 [03:14] <xales> bad
#797 [03:14] <xales> etc
#798 [03:14] <Kealper> i never said it would be a good one lol
#799 [03:15] <netherian> lul
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#801 [03:16] <Kealper> heck, a lot of files are null-padded, so making something to compress just the nulls would reduce filesizes of stuff like exes
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#803 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, does espernet provide +N?
#804 [03:19] <xales> Nope, +N?
#805 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> prevents nick changes
#806 [03:19] <xales> oh, nope
#807 [03:19] <xales> /quote help cmode
#808 [03:19] <Kealper> 03:19:22 [EsperNet] -!- Unknown mode character N :(
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#810 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> bah
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#813 [03:25] <netherian> then I wouldn't be able to change nicks (one message) without leaving and joining (two messages)
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#815 [03:31] <Otto> hurro
#816 [03:31] <Otto> i have a lil problem for some time now if some has an open ear
#817 [03:31] <xales> What is the problem?
#818 [03:33] <Otto> if i log on to our clans server, i appear, but nothing will render cept a few creatures as i fall, it lasts for about 3 or 5 mins then i time out
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#820 [03:33] <Otto> its been like this for a few weeks now
#821 [03:33] <Otto> i seem to be the only person having this issue
#822 [03:33] <Otto> randomly, it will let me in if im lucky
#823 [03:33] <Taz605> Hello all
#824 [03:33] <xales> Does it do this with all servers, or just the one, Otto?
#825 [03:33] <Arkose> hello
#826 [03:34] <Otto> the only way to fix it right away is to have my char.png deleted
#827 [03:34] <Otto> then i log in instantly
#828 [03:35] <Otto> i have not tryed other severs, but the fact that delelting my char.png on his sever seems to hint at something
#829 [03:35] <Kealper> tried reinstalling minecraft?
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#831 [03:39] <Taz605> if format my p.c what folders do i need to need to keep my saves?
#832 [03:39] <Otto> i have
#833 [03:39] <xales> Otto: Did you delete the .minecraft/bin folder?
#834 [03:39] <Otto> i have
#835 [03:39] <Otto> like i said, i havent had any others to test it on
#836 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> Taz605 - If you're running windows, it's in your: %appdata%/.minecraft/saves
#837 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> Press your windows+R key to bring up the run command, and type in: %appdata%
#838 [03:40] <Arkose> if you back up the whole .minecraft folder (not just its saves folder) your settings and mods and such will also carry over
#839 [03:41] <Taz605> opk thanks
#840 [03:44] <Taz605> `on mutli player can you set more than one home?
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#842 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> No
#843 [03:46] <Taz605> damn
#844 [03:46] <Taz605> the mines a long walk :(
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#846 [04:01] <xaviergmail> is there any way to downlaod the alpha client?
#847 [04:01] <xaviergmail> i mean
#848 [04:01] <xaviergmail> classic
#849 [04:01] <xaviergmail> O_o
#850 [04:01] <Ceil_1516> taz: I made an underground powered cart. Handy for long distances.
#851 [04:03] <Taz605> Ceil_1516: i might do that soonins
#852 [04:03] <Ceil_1516> Or you can make some sort of cannon.. lol.
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#854 [04:04] <Taz605> we use bosters but i do really like em
#855 [04:04] <Arkose> xaviergmail: not officially, and my limited testing wasn't successful. Beta has basically all the features and more, as well as being officially downloadable. If you're willing to pay for it (or have already done so) you're all set.
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#857 [04:09] <netherian> good night
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#859 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> Man, what is with my 'net lately..
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#861 [04:16] <Kealper> ok....i made a simple compression function, but then realized that my method of doing it is not good enough
#862 [04:16] * xales told you so
#862 [04:16] <Kealper> it'd need far more pattern recognition than i care implement
#863 [04:17] <Kealper> hmm....i'll try it with an exe
#864 [04:18] <Kealper> yeah....not that great...from 634kb to 605kb :<
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#866 [04:22] <Kealper> well, this failed experiment did tell me one thing...real compression algorithms are almost all pattern-matching, and not much else :/
#867 [04:22] <xales> indeed
#868 [04:23] <Kealper> oh man, rar raped the pants of this thing i made lol
#869 [04:24] <Kealper> mine takes about 9 sec for that 634kb file, rar took about 1 sec.....mine ended up at 605kb, rar ended up at 283kb lol
#870 [04:26] <Kealper> hmm....but i might be able to tweek mine to get super awesome compression on bmp files....
#871 [04:28] <Kealper> oh yeah, that one tweek made a MASSIVE difference on a bmp file
#872 [04:29] <Kealper> took a 750,054 byte bmp down to 34,737 bytes
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#874 [04:30] <Kealper> also did it in 2 sec this time
#875 [04:31] <Kealper> and rar got it down to 1/100th of it's original size -.-
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#879 [04:44] <mib_57rv1p> sheesh
#880 [04:45] <checkzor> hmm
#881 [04:45] <checkzor> need someone smart to answer this
#882 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> Answer's 42
#883 [04:45] <Kealper> XD
#884 [04:45] <checkzor> Does a server with a higher disk i/o generally require less ram to run stable?
#885 [04:46] <xales> The two aren't connected in any way
#886 [04:46] <checkzor> Or am I interpreting this wrong :/
#887 [04:46] <checkzor> Doesn't world data have to sit in ram while waiting to be moved to the hard drive?
#888 [04:46] <checkzor> and vice versa?
#889 [04:47] <xales> Thats swapping
#890 [04:47] <xales> if you are swapping, no matter how fast the drive is
#891 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is flushed to HDD on command constantly. That's part of minecraft's code
#892 [04:47] <xales> you will get massive lag
#893 [04:47] <checkzor> hmm
#894 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> As for chunks that are loaded at the time, that sits in RAM to be used.
#895 [04:47] <checkzor> yeah
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#897 [04:48] <checkzor> when chunks save, if they are able to be offloaded quicker, wouldn't that mean ther server runs faster?
#898 [04:48] <checkzor> because a chunk does not have to wait as long?
#899 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> No.
#900 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> You're not running minecraft from the HDD...
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#902 [04:50] <checkzor> hmm
#903 [04:50] <checkzor> tempted to try out running the server from ramdisk
#904 [04:51] <Kealper> maybe this is just because it's 5am and my brain is on standby, but faster disk read/write would make chunk loading/unloading faster
#905 [04:51] <checkzor> Thats what I thought
#906 [04:51] <checkzor> But apparently I'm wrong lol
#907 [04:51] <xales> Kealper, not really
#908 [04:51] * GreyVulpine shakes
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#909 [04:52] <checkzor> anyone have an experience running the server from ramdisk?
#910 [04:52] <Kealper> well yea, it would not be noticably faster unless you were comparing a ramdrive with a 5400rpm pos hdd
#911 [04:52] <Kealper> but it would make a small difference....i think
#912 [04:52] <checkzor> ahh
#913 [04:52] <xales> With Java?
#914 [04:52] <xales> hell no
#915 [04:52] <Kealper> or is having my brain on standby failing me?
#916 [04:52] <Kealper> hmm....ignore me then
#917 [04:52] <xales> failing me as well, but..java
#918 [04:52] <checkzor> notch needs to higher a c== programmer and port the server to c++
#919 [04:52] <xales> java
#920 [04:52] <checkzor> err that first was c++
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#922 [04:53] <xales> checkzor: Porting between two very different languages in such a way would take an extremely long time.
#923 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> There's already a fan-made python minecraft server
#924 [04:53] <Kealper> checkzor: then mc would have to be recompiled for all platforms it supports
#925 [04:53] <checkzor> I know
#926 [04:53] <checkzor> server wise I think it would be worth it
#927 [04:53] <checkzor> leave the client as is
#928 [04:53] <Kealper> but a C server would be epic
#929 [04:53] <Kealper> an ASM server..... :O
#930 [04:53] <checkzor> would be much more efficient
#931 [04:54] <checkzor> holy crap 1 eyelid is stuck shut
#932 [04:54] <checkzor> time to go to bed?
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#934 [04:54] <Kealper> i'm thinking the same...i burned my brain out trying to make a compression program
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#936 [04:55] <checkzor> my head
#937 [04:55] <morton> hey quick question about game play. me and my brother downloaded the survival island map because we saw it on Bluexephos youtube cast on minecraft. how do we do all of the storyline stuff they did on there?
#938 [04:55] <Kealper> highest ratio i've been able to get with it is about 17% the original filesize of a raw bmp image....so...this gets thrown in the trash for being garbage code
#939 [04:55] <checkzor> no idea
#940 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> Probably need to run some server mods of some sort
#941 [04:56] <morton> ok because they did all kinds of stuff with old peculior and stuff
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#943 [04:57] <morton> we have been doing the survival island for a few days now and its been really frustrating and we havnt been picked up by the airship yet
#944 [04:58] <morton> what does the normal thing onsist of in multiplayer?
#945 [05:04] <morton> without any custom maps downloaded what is the game normally like (wondering if it has a storyline or what not)
#946 [05:05] <xales> Custom maps only change the terrain
#947 [05:05] <xales> they don't change the game in anywa y
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#949 [05:05] <xales> Multiplayer is just like singleplayer with other people
#950 [05:06] <morton> ok becauseim basicly trying to do what Bluexephos did on their youtube channle
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#952 [05:07] <xales> I don't know what they did
#953 [05:07] <xales> If you want to do it, ask them how
#954 [05:08] <morton> ok then thx
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#967 [06:56] <mncrft> Hey, I was wondering if you could help me?
#968 [06:56] <mncrft> My minecraft survival server map is is really small and you can fall off the edge.
#969 [06:57] <mncrft> How do I make my surival mutiplayer map like single player map size?
#970 [06:58] <MaxEric93> I can't help for this sorry :( maybe others
#971 [06:58] <mncrft> Its alright, its just I want to be able to play exactly single player but with me and friend#
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#974 [07:07] <Stronglime> Kealper or Xales,are one of you online?
#975 [07:07] <Stronglime> Or anyone else that can help me
#976 [07:07] <mib_pi1514> Hello I have a problem when I run the game it asks me to open my account it is that I then download a green bar appears I expect it hangs at the beginning and not moving help me if Please.
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#979 [07:08] <Stronglime> looks like
#980 [07:08] <Stronglime> no one is...
#981 [07:08] <Stronglime> Here around
#982 [07:08] <Stronglime> willing to help us
#983 [07:08] <MaxEric93> @mib_pi1514 => try deleting all your files and install again minecraft
#984 [07:08] <MaxEric93> @Stronglime => Tell me your story ;)
#985 [07:08] <Stronglime> wrong i was
#986 [07:08] <Stronglime> So that's
#987 [07:09] <Stronglime> My open gl wont work
#988 [07:09] <Stronglime> all drivers are ok
#989 [07:09] <Stronglime> ALL of them
#990 [07:09] <Reaver4D54> Hi all, I use MCLawl for a classic server and I want to let a train drive onto op_air. It works one time, then the "shadow" turns the air to glass and nothing works, what can I do?
#991 [07:09] <Stronglime> re istalled,istalled older
#992 [07:09] <Stronglime> just open gl wont work
#993 [07:09] <Reaver4D54> Google didn't tell me what to do :)
#994 [07:09] <mib_pi1514> ok thank you I'll try
#995 [07:09] <MaxEric93> @Stronglime => Does the game launch ?
#996 [07:10] <Stronglime> Not exactly
#997 [07:10] <Stronglime> it opens
#998 [07:10] <Stronglime> i log in
#999 [07:10] <Stronglime> when it should start "mojang" thing it crashes istead
#1000 [07:10] <Stronglime> also in classic
#1001 [07:10] <Stronglime> all textures white
#1002 [07:10] <Stronglime> and lag
#1003 [07:10] <Stronglime> all the games whit open GL wont work
#1004 [07:10] <MaxEric93> @Reaver4D54 => Can't do a thing for you, never used MCLawl :(
#1005 [07:10] <Stronglime> but i dont know why
#1006 [07:11] <Stronglime> I made some tests,90% of stuff of open GL wont work or lag,and i dont know what to do
#1007 [07:11] <MaxEric93> @Stronglime => Did you have same thing when playing on minecraft.net ?
#1008 [07:11] <Reaver4D54> oh, okay, anyone else? It looks much better, if I could use op_air instead of the red blocks...
#1009 [07:11] <Stronglime> what you mean?
#1010 [07:11] <Stronglime> oh i told you that all games whit open gl wont work
#1011 [07:12] <Stronglime> but i dont know how to fix it
#1012 [07:12] <Stronglime> i re istalled my OS,and then open gl dont work anymore
#1013 [07:12] <MaxEric93> @Stronglime => I mean playing the game directly on the website, not by downloading the exe and run it on your computer
#1014 [07:12] <Stronglime> Aehm
#1015 [07:12] <Stronglime> i didint tested
#1016 [07:12] <MaxEric93> Try it ;)
#1017 [07:12] <Stronglime> but im sure 100% dosent work
#1018 [07:13] <Stronglime> CAUSE open gl is problem
#1019 [07:13] <Stronglime> anything about it
#1020 [07:13] <Stronglime> wont work
#1021 [07:13] <Reaver4D54> OpenGL problems are sometimes, when you don't have latest driver for your graphic card, or your graphic card doesn't support openGL
#1022 [07:13] <Stronglime> As i said
#1023 [07:13] <Stronglime> lastest drivers
#1024 [07:13] <Reaver4D54> OS?
#1025 [07:13] <mib_pi1514> needs to download approximately how long?
#1026 [07:13] <Stronglime> the problem started when i reistalled my os cause of other problems,OS windows XP
#1027 [07:14] <MaxEric93> @mib => the exe is pretty light so a few seconds ;)
#1028 [07:14] <MaxEric93> @Strong => All of your drivers up to date ?
#1029 [07:14] <Stronglime> OFC
#1030 [07:14] <Stronglime> i even tried whit older
#1031 [07:15] <Stronglime> Kealper and Xales knows
#1032 [07:15] <mib_pi1514> ok so its still not working
#1033 [07:15] <Stronglime> But i discovered now it is open gl
#1034 [07:15] <MaxEric93> Which video card do you have ?
#1035 [07:16] <Stronglime> Nvidia Gefore 7025,about
#1036 [07:16] <Stronglime> sec
#1037 [07:16] <Stronglime> forgot
#1038 [07:16] <Stronglime> Nvidia Geforce 7025/Nvidia nforce 630a
#1039 [07:17] <Stronglime> So,any ideas?
#1040 [07:17] <MaxEric93> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-266.58-whql-driver.html
#1041 [07:18] <MaxEric93> Last idea for me
#1042 [07:18] <Stronglime> YES i did donwload
#1043 [07:18] <mib_pi1514> its course the game with a Windows XP?
#1044 [07:18] <MaxEric93> @Strong => Can't do anything more so :(
#1045 [07:18] <Stronglime> Im run open gl
#1046 [07:18] <Stronglime> and dont know WHY
#1047 [07:19] <MaxEric93> @mib => ???
#1048 [07:19] <Stronglime> WTF
#1049 [07:19] <Stronglime> what did i write ?!
#1050 [07:19] <Stronglime> my brain is odd,so i was thinking "Cant run open gl,and dont know WHY"
#1051 [07:20] <Taz605> strong what os you using?
#1052 [07:20] <Stronglime> Windows XP sir.
#1053 [07:20] <Taz605> ok nvm
#1054 [07:21] <Taz605> sorry
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#1056 [07:21] <Taz605> what happing?
#1057 [07:21] <mib_pi1514> the game you it works on Windows XP?
#1058 [07:21] <MaxEric93> Yes it works on XP
#1059 [07:21] <MaxEric93> I'm running it on 7, but XP has no trouble running it ;)
#1060 [07:22] <MaxEric93> @Strong => http://www.worldofminecraft.com/OpenGLError
#1061 [07:22] <MaxEric93> May help
#1062 [07:22] <Reaver4D54> I really hope anyone could help me, with the train on op_air-problem ;)
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#1064 [07:22] <mib_pi1514> damage still not working
#1065 [07:23] <Reaver4D54> Did you mean me?
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#1067 [07:25] <MaxEric93> @mib => windows + R
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#1069 [07:25] <MaxEric93> @mib => Type %APPDATA%
#1070 [07:25] <MaxEric93> @mib => execute
#1071 [07:25] <MaxEric93> @mib => Go to .minecraft folder
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#1073 [07:26] <MaxEric93> @mib => Copy then paste the saves folder to your desktop
#1074 [07:26] <MaxEric93> @mib => Then delete completly your .minecraft folder and run again the minecraft.exe
#1075 [07:26] <permajetlag> mm... minecraft seems to be up and running on my linode server, but i can't seem to connect.
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#1077 [07:27] <Stronglime> Sorry guys crashed!
#1078 [07:27] <Stronglime> So found anything that could help me?
#1079 [07:28] <Taz605> [12:22] <MaxEric93> @Strong => http://www.worldofminecraft.com/OpenG LError
#1080 [07:28] <Taz605> [12:22] <MaxEric93> May help
#1081 [07:28] <MaxEric93> http://www.worldofminecraft.com/OpenGLError
#1082 [07:28] <Oerg866> haha
#1083 [07:28] <Oerg866> speaking of openGL Errors
#1084 [07:28] <Oerg866> funnily enough, the in-browser version works fine, while the exe wrapper thing complains about open-GL on my laptop
#1085 [07:29] <Oerg866> stupid intel GMA shit
#1086 [07:29] <Stronglime> Nope.Avi
#1087 [07:29] <Stronglime> i'ts not that the prob
#1088 [07:29] <Stronglime> *it's
#1089 [07:29] <Stronglime> the problem is just..cant use open gl in any way
#1090 [07:29] <Stronglime> Only really few stuff of open gl works
#1091 [07:29] <Oerg866> what graphics card do you use
#1092 [07:29] <Oerg866> ?
#1093 [07:29] <Stronglime> but less than 2% of it
#1094 [07:29] <Stronglime> Told already
#1095 [07:30] <Oerg866> Stronglime: yeah maybe but I wasnt here at that time
#1096 [07:30] <Stronglime> Nvidia Geforse 7025/Nvidia nforce something
#1097 [07:30] <Oerg866> oh yeah these suck but should work
#1098 [07:30] <Oerg866> what you could try is to use a OpenGL to Direct3D wrapper
#1099 [07:30] <Stronglime> Nvidia nforce 630 A
#1100 [07:31] <Stronglime> Sorry?
#1101 [07:31] <Stronglime> Dont get it
#1102 [07:31] <mib_pi1514> where is the save folder?
#1103 [07:31] <Stronglime> open a random folder
#1104 [07:32] <Stronglime> type %appdata% on the address thing
#1105 [07:32] <Stronglime> Open .minecraft
#1106 [07:32] <Stronglime> Saves should be around there
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#1108 [07:32] <Oerg866> stronglime: http://majorgeeks.com/GLDirect_d381.html
#1109 [07:32] <Stronglime> Made a backup of them more than one time
#1110 [07:32] <Oerg866> try this
#1111 [07:33] <Oerg866> stronglime:
#1112 [07:33] <Oerg866> "The SciTech GLDirect product has been discontinued. If you would like to continue to use the latest 5.0.2 release on
#1113 [07:33] <Oerg866> your computer, please use the following free registration code to unlock the product:
#1114 [07:33] <Oerg866> Name: Free Code
#1115 [07:33] <Oerg866> Code: 1C10-0485-A489-E2
#1116 [07:33] <Oerg866> "
#1117 [07:34] <Stronglime> ..?
#1118 [07:34] <Oerg866> stronglime: the link from above
#1119 [07:34] <Oerg866> the majorgeeks one
#1120 [07:34] <Oerg866> install that
#1121 [07:34] <Reaver4D54> Ah, Gldirect is very nice, you should use it. I tried it some time ago for a card which doesn't really support OpenGL and it works more than fine!
#1122 [07:34] <Oerg866> that will make all openGL stuff run through D3D
#1123 [07:34] <Stronglime> WOW! want it
#1124 [07:34] <Oerg866> Stronglime: http://majorgeeks.com/GLDirect_d381.html
#1125 [07:35] * Oerg866 bbl, showering
#1125 [07:35] <Stronglime> Dling already
#1126 [07:35] <Stronglime> but
#1127 [07:35] <Stronglime> it should go slower?
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#1129 [07:36] <Stronglime> hey man
#1130 [07:36] <Stronglime> i just discovered i have this already
#1131 [07:36] <Stronglime> this is an OOOOOLD hard disk
#1132 [07:36] <Stronglime> that may be the prob
#1133 [07:36] <permajetlag> hm. i know that this doesn't necessarily go here. but can someone give me a list of common problems/solutions when setting up a minecraft server? i have a feeling i missed a small step, but i cant find it. im going through the tutorial again
#1134 [07:36] <Stronglime> i check.
#1135 [07:36] <mib_pi1514> I'm lost
#1136 [07:36] <Oerg866> <permajetlag> hm. i know that this doesn't necessarily go here. but can someone give me a list of common problems/solutions when setting up a minecraft server? i have a feeling i missed a small step, but i cant find it. im going through the tutorial again
#1137 [07:36] <Oerg866> install server
#1138 [07:36] <Oerg866> install bukkit-alpha
#1139 [07:36] <Oerg866> install essentials
#1140 [07:36] <Oerg866> op yourself
#1141 [07:36] <Oerg866> the end
#1142 [07:37] <Stronglime> THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSsss
#1143 [07:37] <Stronglime> CANT EVEN IMAGINE
#1144 [07:37] <Stronglime> Still the problem was just that
#1145 [07:37] <Stronglime> old istallation forgot totally about it
#1146 [07:37] <Stronglime> Omg
#1147 [07:38] <Stronglime> thanks i love you
#1148 [07:38] <permajetlag> it seems to be up and running, but I can't connect. (i havent attempted any addons like bukkit or hMod yet... would that make life easier?)
#1149 [07:38] <MaxEric93> @mib => Where are you lost ?
#1150 [07:38] <Stronglime> At last say something :P
#1151 [07:39] <Oerg866> <permajetlag> it seems to be up and running, but I can't connect. (i havent attempted any addons like bukkit or hMod yet... would that make life easier?)
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#1153 [07:39] <mib_pi1514> I rest my question that I re-explained here I minecraft launches and green download bar appears and hangs her I can wait it nothing happens.
#1154 [07:39] <Oerg866> @Permajetlag
#1155 [07:39] <Oerg866> -MCHelpBot- If you are experiencing problems connecting to a multiplayer server, please be patient! Minecraft.net is currently down
#1156 [07:39] <MaxEric93> I told you what to do sooner, did you tried it ?
#1157 [07:39] <Stronglime> Well bye all of you
#1158 [07:39] <permajetlag> minecraft.net is not down atm.
#1159 [07:40] <Stronglime> Saved my life I_I
#1160 [07:40] <Oerg866> it is for the game
#1161 [07:40] <MaxEric93> @Strong => See ya ;)
#1162 [07:40] <Oerg866> it's down and not down at the same time
#1163 [07:40] <Stronglime> even more..thanks!
#1164 [07:40] <permajetlag> that status hasn't been updated in a while. i can connect to other multiplayer servers...
#1165 [07:40] <permajetlag> o_o
#1166 [07:40] <Oerg866> stronglime: bye :)
#1167 [07:40] <Oerg866> permajetlag: wrong port?
#1168 [07:40] <permajetlag> defaults. 25565 is open client-side
#1169 [07:41] <Reaver4D54> So, anyone could say me, how to use op_air with train on MCLawl? op_air always turns to glass, if train drives about op_air (i think because of the "shadow" but cant say it definitly)
#1170 [07:41] <permajetlag> reading up on server-side seems to indicate that ubuntu doesn't close its ports. though it could be a problem with minecraft / java not listening to the port. but im in over my head a little at this point.
#1171 [07:43] <mib_pi1514> someone can help me?
#1172 [07:48] <permajetlag> mm. don't want to waste your time Oerg866 - i'll resolve this problem at another time. thanks for your help
#1173 [07:52] <mib_pi1514> anyone can help me?
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#1190 [09:35] <Amaru> Hi, can someone explain me why Minecraft lags on a PC with 2 x 2.8 Ghz? I run it on Windows 7 and I can barely move
#1191 [09:40] <Amaru> Someone here to help on a technical issue with minecraft?
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#1196 [09:50] <peru_> no mind-readers here, Amaru
#1197 [09:50] <Amaru> Well, I posted my problem and no one replied
#1198 [09:50] <peru_> oh you described it above.. fail on my part
#1199 [09:52] <Constantine_> how can I connect to one of the servers @ www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp through my windows client?
#1200 [09:52] <Constantine_> and not play through the browser?
#1201 [09:53] <peru_> have you bought the game
#1202 [09:53] <peru_> use !paid username to check
#1203 [09:54] <peru_> !paid perunio
#1204 [09:54] <feenyx> .vprotect
#1205 [09:54] <feenyx> .vprotect
#1206 [09:54] <feenyx> oh really
#1207 [09:54] * feenyx smacks AuBot
#1207 [09:55] <peru_> dont smack him, he does good job
#1208 [09:55] <Constantine_> I've bought the game yes
#1209 [09:55] <feenyx> except when he goes all mute :p
#1210 [09:55] <Constantine_> !paid ConstantineX
#1211 [09:56] <Constantine_> to be honest I just want to play on a reliable lagfree server with over 30 ppl at a time, any suggestions?
#1212 [09:56] <Constantine_> but I want to play through the windows client >_<
#1213 [09:57] <Amaru> It is amazing even the mousepointer and the bricks falling to form the Minecraft Logo at the start are lagging
#1214 [09:57] <Amaru> sure that game is compatible with Windows 7?
#1215 [09:57] <peru_> just log in , click multiplayer and ctrl-paste ip adress of server you want to join
#1216 [09:59] <Constantine_> ok, for example I want to play on the top server @ http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp, which is Team9000 Public (team9000.net)
#1217 [09:59] <Constantine_> how do I find out the IP in order to play through the client?
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#1220 [10:02] <Constantine_> ?
#1221 [10:02] <peru_> oh those are classic servers you only build there
#1222 [10:04] <peru_> i dont know how to join through windows client
#1223 [10:04] <Constantine_> classic? is it different than the client version?
#1224 [10:04] <Constantine_> you dont get to roleplay on those servers just build?
#1225 [10:05] <peru_> yep
#1226 [10:05] <peru_> no monsters, no crafting...
#1227 [10:05] <Constantine_> fair enough
#1228 [10:05] <Constantine_> so how do I choose a reliable lagfree multiplayer client server? :S
#1229 [10:06] <peru_> i think you need to ask in #smp
#1230 [10:08] <Amaru> So, can someone help me or will some help me now?
#1231 [10:09] <LatHans> how many blocks away must flammable blocks be from lava if I don't want them to watch fire?
#1232 [10:10] <peru_> go for 5
#1233 [10:10] <Reaver4D54> I am able to cuboid messageblocks in the classic version? /z mb text doesn't work... :)
#1234 [10:10] <peru_> you can never be too careful
#1235 [10:11] <LatHans> hm
#1236 [10:11] <Amaru> Alright, apparently no one has a solution for the problem I encounter
#1237 [10:12] <peru_> how much RAM do you have
#1238 [10:12] <Amaru> 2 GB
#1239 [10:12] <peru_> should be ok
#1240 [10:14] <Amaru> Thise computer is basically almost uptodate, besides the ram amount and yet I am lagging even when the bricks fall down in the menue
#1241 [10:14] <Reaver4D54> OpenGL, latest driver? For ATI: applying/installing Catalyst Center may help
#1242 [10:14] <Amaru> I updatet it for deadspace 2
#1243 [10:14] <Amaru> about yesterday, date 18 January
#1244 [10:18] <Reaver4D54> which graphiccard do you have? Thinking of this morning I would say try GLDirect, which wraps all OpenGL-Functions to DirectX. But before, there is another idea, update Java for the latest version may also help
#1245 [10:19] <Amaru> I do know what's it called now. It has been Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTX
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#1247 [10:19] <Amaru> I had to download Java for it anyway since I had reinstalled my computer lately
#1248 [10:20] <Reaver4D54> Well, I have no idea. Try GLDirect, but disable it before starting other games than minecraft...
#1249 [10:20] <Reaver4D54> so, now anyone can help me? I want to cuboid messageblocks, is that possible?
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#1252 [10:35] <Constantine_> http://servers.minecraftforum.net/ doesnt work, is this temporary or has it been like that for a while?
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#1254 [10:37] <Swompie> This application is undergoing maintenance right now. Please check back later.
#1255 [10:37] <Swompie> that's what it says
#1256 [10:37] <Swompie> so i'd say temporary
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#1260 [10:43] <Erlpil> hi
#1261 [10:43] <Reaver4D54> hi
#1262 [10:43] <Erlpil> i need some help :(
#1263 [10:44] <Erlpil> my minecraft wont work :(
#1264 [10:44] <Reaver4D54> Well, if nobody could say me, how I can use /cuboid mb text, could anyone tell me how to use /air_message? Because there stood "no message was stored" How to store a message?
#1265 [10:44] <Erlpil> when I start it nothing happens :(
#1266 [10:44] <Reaver4D54> What are you using?
#1267 [10:45] <Erlpil> what do you mean?
#1268 [10:45] <Erlpil> windows 7?
#1269 [10:45] <Reaver4D54> minecraft.exe from original site? or wom-client?
#1270 [10:45] <Erlpil> yes
#1271 [10:45] <Erlpil> original
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#1273 [10:46] <Erlpil> nothing works :(
#1274 [10:46] <Reaver4D54> So, type WIN+R and %appdata% {ENTER] , place .minecraft on your desktop and delete it out from appdata-directory and try restart the *.exe
#1275 [10:47] <Reaver4D54> the folder ".minecraft"
#1276 [10:47] <Reaver4D54> So many people are online, nobody could tell me hot to use /air_message or to store the message for air_message?
#1277 [10:48] <Erlpil> thanks
#1278 [10:49] <Reaver4D54> Does it work?
#1279 [10:50] <Erlpil> 2 sec
#1280 [10:50] <Erlpil> no....
#1281 [10:51] <Mikau> Hello ladies.
#1282 [10:51] <Erlpil> i hate this :(
#1283 [10:52] <Erlpil> Mikau can you help me?
#1284 [10:52] <Mikau> I just woke up, give me a moment to scroll up.
#1285 [10:52] <Erlpil> (Y) thanks :)
#1286 [10:52] <Mikau> What do you mean when you start it nothing happens?
#1287 [10:52] <Mikau> Does the window appear, or just nothing?
#1288 [10:53] <Erlpil> its run or abort
#1289 [10:53] <Erlpil> i press run and then nothing happens :(
#1290 [10:54] <Erlpil> i have always done that but one day nothing worked :(
#1291 [10:54] <Mikau> Go into the task manager (ctrl+alt+delete), click "Processes", sort by "Image Name" and look for javaw.exe
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#1294 [10:55] <Erlpil> cant see it
#1295 [10:56] <Erlpil> nope its not there..
#1296 [10:56] <Reaver4D54> Maybe "Show processes of all user"?
#1297 [10:57] <Erlpil> still nothing
#1298 [10:57] <Erlpil> :(
#1299 [10:57] <Mikau> Alright, have you tried going to the minecraft folder and deleting your bin folder?
#1300 [10:58] <Mikau> (click start and type in %appdata%)
#1301 [10:58] <Erlpil> don`t work :(
#1302 [10:59] <Mikau> %appdata% didn't work?
#1303 [10:59] <Erlpil> hmm...
#1304 [10:59] <Erlpil> nope :(
#1305 [11:00] <Reaver4D54> Update Java may help
#1306 [11:00] <Reaver4D54> I think it is a problem with Java?!
#1307 [11:00] <Mikau> Go on the C: and go there manually.
#1308 [11:00] <Erlpil> tried a lot whit java... removed and so on
#1309 [11:00] <Erlpil> its a java porblem
#1310 [11:01] <Mikau> Click the bar at the top so you can type and go to: C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft
#1311 [11:01] <Erlpil> problem*
#1312 [11:01] <Erlpil> before i got the error can not create java virtual machine...
#1313 [11:02] <Erlpil> i fixed it and i worked for 30-40 days but now nothing happens :(
#1314 [11:03] <Erlpil> it happend the same day i bought ta game...
#1315 [11:03] <Erlpil> (yesterday)
#1316 [11:03] <Reaver4D54> Well, I don't know java well, so I cant help you, sorry
#1317 [11:03] <Erlpil> np thanks for that you tried :)
#1318 [11:04] <Mikau> Did you find the minecraft folder?
#1319 [11:04] <Erlpil> yes :)
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#1321 [11:05] <Jackson413> hey guys
#1322 [11:05] <Jackson413> i have a bit of a problem
#1323 [11:05] <Erlpil> hi
#1324 [11:05] <Jackson413> last night someone put down a LOT of tnt
#1325 [11:05] <Jackson413> via a world edit //fill
#1326 [11:06] <Jackson413> and it is still going off and crashing the server constantly
#1327 [11:06] <Jackson413> how can i remove it
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#1329 [11:06] <jjkoletar> Can I ask a redstone question?
#1330 [11:06] <Erlpil> dont think you can...
#1331 [11:06] <Erlpil> yes :)
#1332 [11:06] <jjkoletar> :P
#1333 [11:06] <Mikau> okay, did you delete the bin folder, Erlpil?
#1334 [11:06] <Erlpil> mhm i did
#1335 [11:07] <Mikau> Right click the minecraft.exe and "run as administrator"
#1336 [11:07] <jjkoletar> Well, what I was hoping to do is have it so that a dispenser is only triggered after 2 pressure plates are stepped on in seqence
#1337 [11:07] <Erlpil> tried
#1338 [11:07] <jjkoletar> if that's possible
#1339 [11:07] <Mikau> nothing?
#1340 [11:07] <Erlpil> do you know what
#1341 [11:07] <Erlpil> i think i will remove java and try again...
#1342 [11:07] <Mikau> Yes, remove java completely.
#1343 [11:08] <Jackson413> anyone offer some input on my problem?
#1344 [11:08] <Mikau> Make sure there's no extra versions, Java likes to duplicate itself sometimes.
#1345 [11:08] <Mikau> Jackson, there's not much you can do aside from looking up a mod to edit the TNT off the server.
#1346 [11:09] <Jackson413> mcedit>
#1347 [11:09] <Jackson413> ?
#1348 [11:10] <Jackson413> yeah im doing that right now but i dont see any tnt
#1349 [11:10] <Mikau> I couldn't really tell you, I avoid mods for the most part.
#1350 [11:10] <Jackson413> oh god
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#1353 [11:11] <dafour> got a q
#1354 [11:11] <xales> go ahead and ask
#1355 [11:11] <dafour> is it still possible to get drops from mobs who died from a mobfarm?
#1356 [11:12] <dafour> i'm plating smp
#1357 [11:12] <dafour> playing*
#1358 [11:13] <Mikau> Yes, dafour. Make the drops come out a funnel via water, and stand in front of it.
#1359 [11:13] <dafour> i tried with about 50 cows and got 4-6 drops
#1360 [11:13] <dafour> is that normal?
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#1364 [11:18] <mib_e6ruow> Hi @ all
#1365 [11:19] <xales> hello
#1366 [11:19] <Taz605> sup?
#1367 [11:19] <mib_e6ruow> i look for help with the minimap-mod...
#1368 [11:19] <Mikau> Go to the forum where you found the mod.
#1369 [11:19] <Mikau> We don't help with mods here.
#1370 [11:20] <mib_e6ruow> ok....
#1371 [11:20] <xales> .vprotect
#1372 [11:20] <MCHelpBot> Disabling voice protection
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#1377 [11:27] <Kiyo> Morning
#1378 [11:28] <xales> hello
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#1380 [11:28] <Kiyo> so im running a minecraft server now and its working great, but i want to dl it to my home pc and edit the crap out of it and reulpoad it.
#1381 [11:29] <Kiyo> when i go to dl the whole folder i waited over 30min and its still not done dling
#1382 [11:29] <xales> yeah...the save file format is a bit stupid
#1383 [11:29] <Kiyo> i wanted to know if there is a faster way?
#1384 [11:29] <xales> compress it on the server
#1385 [11:30] <Kiyo> okay i am going to duplicate it and then compres and try..
#1386 [11:31] <Kiyo> yeah i heard a rumor there was a mod to make it one file
#1387 [11:31] <xales> the save files? I haven't heard of such a thing
#1388 [11:32] <Kiyo> Command 'cp -p -r -f "world" "/home/kiyo/Minecraft/world"'
#1389 [11:32] <Kiyo> failed with return code 1 and error message
#1390 [11:32] <Kiyo> cp: cannot copy a directory, `world', into itself, `/home/kiyo/Minecraft/world/world'.
#1391 [11:32] <Kiyo> darn.
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#1393 [11:33] <xales> Kiyo: just tar -cvzf /home/kiyo/Minecraft/xfer.tar.gz /home/kiyo/Minecraft/world
#1394 [11:33] <Hackshine> Hey everyone.
#1395 [11:34] <Kiyo> okay i am. but every time i do that i get host is not communicating for more than 15seconds
#1396 [11:34] <xales> Kiyo: that is...bad
#1397 [11:34] <xales> Hackshine: hello
#1398 [11:34] <xales> Kiyo: is it a VPS?
#1399 [11:34] <Kiyo> yes
#1400 [11:34] <Hackshine> One question and I shall attempt to be brief.
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#1403 [11:35] <Eqvaliser> someone able to logon my mc serv. to check if i have forwarded the port in my router correctly ?
#1404 [11:35] <Hackshine> Since their isn't a cure for my old laptops Accelerated Open GL error. I was wondering if I could run Minecraft on my PS3 with a partition of Arch Linux.
#1405 [11:35] <xales> Eqvaliser: You can use the bot here
#1406 [11:35] <xales> !check (myip)
#1407 [11:36] <Eqvaliser> ok cool.. so i enter the ip:port ?
#1408 [11:36] <xales> Hackshine: You could...try, but I highly doubt it would work
#1409 [11:36] <xales> Eqvaliser: yes
#1410 [11:36] <Eqvaliser> ty
#1411 [11:37] <Kiyo> i just noticed when i tried to copy the map the server was still running maybe that is why
#1412 [11:37] <xales> possibly, depends on the load of the host node
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#1414 [11:38] <Kiyo> my world is 19,372kib
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#1416 [11:39] <Dessos> Hello
#1417 [11:39] <Eqvaliser> !check 93.162.167.171:25565
#1418 [11:39] <Eqvaliser> nice
#1419 [11:40] <SkiingPenguins> hi Dessos :)
#1420 [11:40] <Kiyo> also just a note but it seems to me that each person on my server takes up about 236mb of ram, is that a bit much i heard it was more around 100-150mb
#1421 [11:41] <SkiingPenguins> kiyo it depends partly on how far apart they are and if the server can let them "share" some chunks in the ram, atleast thats what i heard
#1422 [11:41] <Kiyo> normally we are in sight of each other.
#1423 [11:42] <Kiyo> ohh well no lag so far
#1424 [11:42] <statik> Is there anything that can be done with these rendering holes in the terrain that pop up once in a while?
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#1426 [11:43] <TheReddeH> im building a chunk error in mc.. every1 is going to be so confuzzled
#1427 [11:43] <Kiyo> lol explorer.exe just crashed....
#1428 [11:44] <statik> Got to love Windows.
#1429 [11:44] <Dessos> :(
#1430 [11:44] <Kiyo> starting to wish i was back on xandros
#1431 [11:44] <TheReddeH> just explore by yourself
#1432 [11:45] <Dessos> !check 79.242.111.42:25565
#1433 [11:45] <Dessos> why :( *cry*
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#1435 [11:48] <Dessos> can someone say my, what i do wrong?
#1436 [11:48] <TheReddeH> life!
#1437 [11:50] <SkiingPenguins> !check 79.242.111.42
#1438 [11:50] <SkiingPenguins> i guess port doesnt matter if its default
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#1453 [12:41] <Wahrheit> Does anyone know of a good mod for rules or the ability to export set text on use of a set command?
#1454 [12:41] <Wahrheit> (for hmod)
#1455 [12:42] <Wahrheit> e.g. I could set it so /validate would display entered text for validating instructions that I set
#1456 [12:43] <SkiingPenguins> as in you create a command line alias that echos the text you want it to display?
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#1458 [12:44] <Wahrheit> OR reads a text file
#1459 [12:44] <Wahrheit> I found a link to a topic that Shade made that supposedly did it but I get an error message on access
#1460 [12:44] <SkiingPenguins> thats a good idea, but i dont about any of the mods for minecraft
#1461 [12:44] <Wahrheit> http://forum.hey0.net/viewtopic.php?pid=7485
#1462 [12:44] <Wahrheit> malformed link
#1463 [12:45] <SkiingPenguins> hmm
#1464 [12:45] <Wahrheit> Got it :D
#1465 [12:45] <Wahrheit> http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=581
#1466 [12:45] <Wahrheit> PERFECTTTT
#1467 [12:48] <Wahrheit> It's even on clanforge already. :D
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#1469 [12:54] <derHirte> Kennt sich jemand mit dem Erstelleb/Aufsetzten eines Minecraft-Servers aus?
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#1473 [12:56] <derHirte> hallo?
#1474 [12:58] <Taz605> yo
#1475 [12:58] <derHirte> hi there
#1476 [12:58] <derHirte> can u help my, setting up a Server?
#1477 [12:59] <Taz605> who so
#1478 [12:59] <Taz605> i'll see what i ca do
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#1480 [13:01] <Anthro> so i cant find my .minecraft folder
#1481 [13:01] <Anthro> nor minecraft.jar
#1482 [13:01] <Taz605> windows?
#1483 [13:02] <Anthro> vista home premium
#1484 [13:02] <Taz605> %ADDDATA%
#1485 [13:02] <Taz605> %APPDATA%
#1486 [13:02] <xales> go to start menu, type %appdata% in the search bar, hit enter
#1487 [13:02] <Anthro> ok one sec
#1488 [13:02] <Anthro> actualy keep going lol
#1489 [13:03] <Anthro> all that came up was roaming
#1490 [13:03] <xales> ehh
#1491 [13:03] <xales> open that
#1492 [13:03] <Anthro> ok
#1493 [13:05] <Anthro> then?
#1494 [13:06] <xales> the .minecraft folder should be in that
#1495 [13:06] <Anthro> found it
#1496 [13:06] <Anthro> so where would my minecraft.jar file be?
#1497 [13:07] <Anthro> nvm
#1498 [13:07] <Anthro> -huggles and licks- thanks xales
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#1501 [13:11] <blink> Qui pour play on est 2
#1502 [13:11] <mib_sa5fo5> can somebody help me with an error im having with minecraft?
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#1505 [13:12] <blink> Qui pour play on est deux (+18)
#1506 [13:13] <Taz605> !check 82.32.177.116
#1507 [13:13] <Taz605> !check 82.32.177.116:25565
#1508 [13:13] <Taz605> shit
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#1511 [13:15] <blink> Qui pour play on est deux (+18)
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#1513 [13:16] <blink> Qui pour play on est deux (+18)
#1514 [13:17] <blink> Qui pour play on est deux (+18)
#1515 [13:17] <Dessos> !check 79.242.111.93:25565
#1516 [13:17] * xales kicked blink from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: ...spam)
#1517 [13:17] <Dessos> why it dont work? o.O
#1518 [13:18] <Taz605> yea... i'm going to ned help setting up a server...
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#1520 [13:24] <Dessos> !check 79.242.111.93:25565
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#1524 [13:28] <Dessos> !check 79.242.111.93
#1525 [13:29] <Dessos> mmh..
#1526 [13:29] <Dessos> why i can youn with 192.168.2.104:25565?
#1527 [13:29] <avirst3> hey i having some server redstone problems, the pulse circuit i se up(it's the basic one) burns out after like 3 seconds and can't start up again anyone know why?
#1528 [13:30] <Dessos> i have the same problem^^ x
#1529 [13:30] <avirst3> doah
#1530 [13:31] <avirst3> !check 70.238.132.133
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#1533 [13:31] <Wahrheit> xales: Any idea how to use this plugin? http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=581
#1534 [13:32] <Wahrheit> xales: It's exactly what I need but when I use /new after adding new.txt and /reloadplugin Reader nothing happens unknown command etc
#1535 [13:32] <xales> No idea, sorry =\
#1536 [13:32] <avirst3> anyone know the problem with redstone circuits burning out on smp servers?
#1537 [13:33] <xales> avirst3: how fast is it?
#1538 [13:34] <xales> they burn out if they are too fast
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#1540 [13:34] <melchior12> Minecraft doesnt work
#1541 [13:35] <avirst3> xales: it's the rapid pulser from the wiki http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:StandardLogicGates.png
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#1544 [13:36] <Taz605> can you guys help me port forward
#1545 [13:36] <mib_l0i5xt> Hello! My internet connections is crashing when having a timeout on a MC server...
#1546 [13:36] <mib_l0i5xt> is this a known bug?
#1547 [13:36] <xales> yeah
#1548 [13:36] <Taz605> thanks
#1549 [13:36] <xales> mib_l0i5xt: yes, some NICs don't cooperate
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#1551 [13:36] <mib_l0i5xt> What shall i do?
#1552 [13:37] <Taz605> mum by a route atm so i can't find what one is yet
#1553 [13:37] <mib_l0i5xt> Is there any way to fix that connection-bug?!?!
#1554 [13:37] <xales> ok
#1555 [13:38] <xales> mib_l0i5xt: Is your computer a laptop?
#1556 [13:38] <mib_l0i5xt> Nope, its a PC with Win7
#1557 [13:39] <xales> I have no idea, one sec
#1558 [13:39] <xales> Kealper
#1559 [13:39] <Kealper> rawr
#1560 [13:39] * xales points at 13:36:22 < mib_l0i5xt> Hello! My internet connections is crashing when having a timeout on a MC server...
#1560 [13:40] <Kealper> that window flash on hilight is amazing at grabbing attention lol
#1561 [13:40] <Kealper> ugh
#1562 [13:40] <Kealper> mib_l0i5xt: do you know how to get to something called Device Manager?
#1563 [13:41] <mib_l0i5xt> yes i know
#1564 [13:41] <mib_l0i5xt> sry
#1565 [13:41] <mib_l0i5xt> Yes.
#1566 [13:42] <Kealper> ok, go there, tell me when you are at there
#1567 [13:42] <mib_l0i5xt> Ohkay wait a moment
#1568 [13:42] <mib_l0i5xt> i have to restart first
#1569 [13:42] <mib_l0i5xt> (it almost crashed the whole pc...)
#1570 [13:42] <Kealper> right then...
#1571 [13:43] <mib_l0i5xt> okay got it
#1572 [13:43] <mib_l0i5xt> Im in
#1573 [13:43] <Kealper> open the drop-down called Network adapters
#1574 [13:44] <Kealper> look for your adapter that you use for the internet
#1575 [13:44] <mib_l0i5xt> jup
#1576 [13:44] <Kealper> double click on it to open it's properties
#1577 [13:44] <mib_l0i5xt> yup
#1578 [13:44] <Kealper> and go to the Advanced tab of that window
#1579 [13:44] <mib_l0i5xt> okay
#1580 [13:44] <Kealper> see the part where it says "Property:" with a bunch of stuff in it?
#1581 [13:45] <Kealper> is there ones in there called Recieve Buffers and Transmit Buffers?
#1582 [13:45] <mib_l0i5xt> "Number of Recieve Buffers" and the other one is there.
#1583 [13:45] <mib_l0i5xt> its 256
#1584 [13:45] <mib_l0i5xt> both
#1585 [13:45] <Kealper> can you raise then any higher?
#1586 [13:45] <mib_l0i5xt> Yes i can
#1587 [13:45] <Kealper> set them both to 512
#1588 [13:46] <mib_l0i5xt> okay
#1589 [13:46] <Kealper> press ok twice, try minecraft again
#1590 [13:46] <mib_l0i5xt> what have i just done?
#1591 [13:46] <Dessos> !check 79.242.111.93
#1592 [13:46] <Dessos> o.O
#1593 [13:47] <Kealper> increased the ammount of data that your NIC will hold temporarity
#1594 [13:47] <Kealper> temporarily*
#1595 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> For not saying 'NIC Card', Kealper gets a gold star!
#1596 [13:47] <mib_l0i5xt> and this will make MC run better/longer?
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#1598 [13:47] <Kealper> why would i say NIC card....that'd be Network Interface Card card......lol
#1599 [13:47] <acocobar> so, where should i go to find texture packs?
#1600 [13:48] <xales> acocobar: Forum
#1601 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: This I know. This many others do not. Hence the gold star.
#1602 [13:48] <acocobar> mhmm where?
#1603 [13:48] <acocobar> on the forum that is
#1604 [13:48] <Kealper> mib_l0i5xt: if should, but if it still does that, then there is nothing that can be done to fix it :/
#1605 [13:48] <Elvang> acocobar: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1021
#1606 [13:48] * Kealper puts his gold star on his monitor
#1606 [13:48] <acocobar> thanks
#1607 [13:50] <Kealper> my typing is horrid when i'm on my server instead of my main pc lol
#1608 [13:54] <Taz605> !check 76.167.164.252.:25565
#1609 [13:54] <Taz605> !check 76.167.164.252:25565
#1610 [13:55] <Taz605> !check ultimateminecraft.net:25565
#1611 [13:58] <Shadow386> !check smp.shadow-craft.net
#1612 [13:58] <xales> !check shadow.is.a.noobie
#1613 [13:58] <xales> >:D
#1614 [13:58] <Shadow386> wait wut
#1615 [13:58] <Dessos> !check dessos.dyndns.org:25565
#1616 [14:00] <Dessos> what i do wrong?
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#1618 [14:01] <Dessos> I have download the jar file, set the ports...
#1619 [14:01] <Shadow386> can you log IN to the server?
#1620 [14:01] <Dessos> yes,
#1621 [14:01] <Shadow386> then no clue
#1622 [14:02] <Shadow386> try typing the IP
#1623 [14:02] <Shadow386> !check smp.shadow-craft.net:25565
#1624 [14:02] <Shadow386> !check smp.shadow-craft.net:25570
#1625 [14:02] <Shadow386> gotta wait >.>
#1626 [14:02] <Shadow386> !check smp.shadow-craft.net:25570
#1627 [14:02] <Shadow386> there we go
#1628 [14:02] <Shadow386> both mine are fine
#1629 [14:03] <Dessos> *cry*
#1630 [14:03] <Dessos> i am typing the ip... but it doesnt work
#1631 [14:04] <Shadow386> the IP not the url
#1632 [14:04] <Dessos> you mean the !check?
#1633 [14:04] <Shadow386> /facepalm
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#1635 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: Domain Name; not URL.
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#1637 [14:06] <Dessos> ^(^.^)^
#1638 [14:07] <Shadow386> hm
#1639 [14:07] <Shadow386> I cant see client chat colors anymore since I am on another pc now
#1640 [14:07] <Shadow386> wat
#1641 [14:08] <mib_l0i5xt> has anyone a server which has almost no lag in europe / germany and which is survivial without build rights?
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#1643 [14:08] <mib_l0i5xt> cuz i cant find one :(
#1644 [14:09] <fogWraith> Without build rights?
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#1646 [14:09] <Shadow386> uh mine is global and I have people in aus, germany, sweden, and once in japan with no lag
#1647 [14:09] <mib_l0i5xt> ... so thta you dont have to ask the admin to give you rights to build
#1648 [14:09] <mib_l0i5xt> shadown can i have ip?
#1649 [14:09] <derHirte> jemand da der sich mit servern auskennt?
#1650 [14:09] <Shadow386> you'll need to register on the website TO be able to build though. just a precaution and mods dont need to add you
#1651 [14:10] <Shadow386> http://shadow-craft.net for that and ip is smp.shadow-craft.net
#1652 [14:10] <mib_l0i5xt> is it survivial?
#1653 [14:10] <Shadow386> yes
#1654 [14:10] <derHirte> someone online who knows how to deal with servers?
#1655 [14:10] <Shadow386> maybe :D
#1656 [14:10] <fogWraith> ^
#1657 [14:10] <derHirte> may i give you a pm?
#1658 [14:10] <Shadow386> I run two actually and plan to open a classic for run
#1659 [14:10] <Shadow386> sure
#1660 [14:11] <nic> i'm trying to buy minecraft and every time i try to buy it, i get an error saying "verification denied" the fuck...
#1661 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> nic: using one of those prepaid credit cards?
#1662 [14:12] <nic> yea
#1663 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> those rarely work for international transactions
#1664 [14:12] <nic> oh
#1665 [14:13] <nic> i guess i'll use a regular card then, thanks
#1666 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#1667 [14:15] <Taz605> xales k i',reday
#1668 [14:15] <xales> What model of router is it?
#1669 [14:16] <Taz605> belken
#1670 [14:16] <xales> is there a number?
#1671 [14:16] <Taz605> wirelessG plus
#1672 [14:17] <xales> are there numbers like "F5D8232-4"?
#1673 [14:17] <Taz605> 2 ses
#1674 [14:17] <Taz605> :|
#1675 [14:19] <Taz605> F5D7231-4
#1676 [14:20] <xales> are you using windows vista or 7?
#1677 [14:20] <Taz605> vista :(
#1678 [14:20] <xales> open start menu, in the search bar type cmd and press enter
#1679 [14:21] <xales> in the window that comes up, type ipconfig and hit enter
#1680 [14:21] <Taz605> done
#1681 [14:21] <xales> what is the IPv4 address?
#1682 [14:21] <Taz605> 192.168.2.7
#1683 [14:22] <xales> OK, go to this page, at the top, it gives you a place to fill in that address
#1684 [14:22] <xales> you just need to put the 7 in the box
#1685 [14:22] <xales> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Belkin/F5D7231-4/Minecraft_Server.htm
#1686 [14:22] <xales> and it gives you instructions
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#1689 [14:24] <Miniviper> Hey guys whats up
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#1691 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> Miniviper: The vector opposing the dominant gravity well.
#1692 [14:25] <Taz605> would the router password be the same we use to connect to the internet?
#1693 [14:26] <Taz605> nvm
#1694 [14:26] <Miniviper> That sounds fun
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#1696 [14:26] <Shadow386> xales
#1697 [14:26] <xales> ?
#1698 [14:26] <Shadow386> you have colored chat in your server, right?
#1699 [14:26] <Shadow386> er in any server*
#1700 [14:27] <xales> what
#1701 [14:27] <Shadow386> my client is being derptarded and not letting me see colored chat
#1702 [14:27] <Shadow386> its all white >_>
#1703 [14:27] <Taz605> xales skype has added teo parts could i use them?
#1704 [14:27] <Taz605> two ports*
#1705 [14:27] <xales> Taz605: I reccomend not doing that, and just adding the one for Minecraft
#1706 [14:28] <Taz605> ok use the same number that skype set?
#1707 [14:28] <Taz605> or defult?
#1708 [14:29] <Shadow386> use 25565
#1709 [14:29] <Shadow386> default minecraft
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#1711 [14:29] <Taz605> TCP or UCP
#1712 [14:29] <Shadow386> i forget
#1713 [14:30] <xales> TCP,
#1714 [14:30] <Taz605> ok
#1715 [14:30] <xales> or Both, if it is an option
#1716 [14:30] <xales> the portforward.com site should show you the way it should look
#1717 [14:31] <Taz605> tyvm
#1718 [14:31] <NinjaKirby> Can Spider submerge themself in water?
#1719 [14:31] <NinjaKirby> Plural, Spiders, or a Spider, either way
#1720 [14:33] <NinjaKirby> Never mind, culrpit identified, the tentacles of the Squid things are JUST like Spiders when glitching through corners
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#1722 [14:33] <NinjaKirby> They even make the walking sound when brushing against the dirt
#1723 [14:33] <Miniviper> I am back :D
#1724 [14:35] <Taz605> !check 82.32.177.116:25565
#1725 [14:35] <Taz605> yes
#1726 [14:38] <Taz605> Connection timed out:connect#
#1727 [14:38] <Taz605> this my side?
#1728 [14:38] <xales> Try using 127.0.0.1
#1729 [14:38] <Taz605> would my friend be able to connect to that ip?
#1730 [14:38] <Taz605> not 127.0.0.1
#1731 [14:40] <Taz605> that 127.0.0.1 worked
#1732 [14:40] <xales> He should be able to
#1733 [14:41] <Taz605> he got on
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#1739 [14:50] <Taz605> how can i have the server tell me as admin
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#1741 [14:52] <aetherian> mmmhelo
#1742 [14:52] <Kealper> by making a wrapper like i did
#1743 [14:54] <Taz605> what?
#1744 [14:54] <Elvang> How long will items hang around on the ground before disappearing?
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#1747 [14:55] <Taz605> 5 mins
#1748 [14:55] <Elvang> Alright
#1749 [14:56] <Elvang> Also, since I spawned in the middle of the ocean... how would I go about building an underwater structure and clearing it of water?
#1750 [14:57] <aetherian> just build walls
#1751 [14:57] <aetherian> then build a roof
#1752 [14:57] <Elvang> The water will disperse on its own?
#1753 [14:57] <aetherian> then place block, dig block, repeat (if necessary)
#1754 [14:57] <Elvang> :o
#1755 [14:57] * aetherian spelled that word wrong, he knows it
#1755 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> build permenant walls, fill with sand, dig out sand, done.
#1756 [14:57] <Elvang> Nope, spell check says its right :p
#1757 [14:58] <aetherian> oh...
#1758 [14:58] <aetherian> the one word I can never get >.>
#1759 [14:59] <Elvang> Don't suppose theres a way to make a clean copy of a world? (e.g. like it was just generated)
#1760 [14:59] <aetherian> there is
#1761 [14:59] <aetherian> I think
#1762 [15:00] <xales> I don't think so
#1763 [15:00] <aetherian> delete all files but for one... lemme look
#1764 [15:00] <aetherian> back up before trying
#1765 [15:01] <aetherian> don't you just keep level.dat and it works?
#1766 [15:01] <xales> I doubt it
#1767 [15:01] <Elvang> wouldn't it be level.dat_old?
#1768 [15:02] <aetherian> try moving that to a new folder
#1769 [15:02] <aetherian> and naming it...whatever the next world is
#1770 [15:02] <aetherian> copy it, don't move it
#1771 [15:02] <aetherian> then try that
#1772 [15:02] <aetherian> if it doesn't work, no damage done
#1773 [15:02] <Elvang> tried with level.dat
#1774 [15:02] <aetherian> no good?
#1775 [15:02] <Elvang> It generated a world, but my guy appeared in pitch black and is taking damage :\
#1776 [15:03] <xales> toldya, aetherian
#1777 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> you probably saved with your character underground
#1778 [15:03] <aetherian> lol
#1779 [15:03] <aetherian> fail
#1780 [15:03] <aetherian> xales: it's not over yet
#1781 [15:04] <Elvang> huh
#1782 [15:04] * xales hits aetherian with a cluebat
#1782 [15:04] <Elvang> level.dat_old worked
#1783 [15:04] <aetherian> :OOOOOOOO
#1784 [15:04] <Elvang> It stuck me in a tree, and gave me the items I had last time
#1785 [15:04] <Elvang> but the world is brand new
#1786 [15:04] <Elvang> same world, terrain is like new*
#1787 [15:04] * aetherian blows a raspberry at xales
#1787 [15:05] <Elvang> So the world gen info is stored together with the inventory and player position
#1788 [15:05] <Elvang> I wonder if this messes with the spawn point :\
#1789 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> spawn location is also in level.dat
#1790 [15:06] <Elvang> Ah, cool
#1791 [15:06] <aetherian> well, throw away your stuff
#1792 [15:06] <aetherian> and brand new world here I come
#1793 [15:06] <Elvang> I figured level.dat_old would be a clean copy whereas level.dat would be the modified one :\
#1794 [15:06] <aetherian> heh
#1795 [15:11] <Kiyo> hey guys me again, so i modded my map and compressed it and put it back to the server but i cant extract it i am getting errors.
#1796 [15:12] <xales> what errors?
#1797 [15:12] <Kiyo> Command 'tar -xz --directory="/home/kiyo/Minecraft/." -f "world.tgz"'
#1798 [15:12] <Kiyo> failed with return code 2 and error message
#1799 [15:12] <Kiyo> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
#1800 [15:12] <Kiyo> tar: Child returned status 1
#1801 [15:12] <Kiyo> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors.
#1802 [15:13] <Kealper> good thing your client limits sending of multiline messages :O
#1803 [15:13] <Mikau> Some guy keeps yelling at him: "I AM ERROR"
#1804 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> try tar zxvf world.tgz /home/kiyo/Minecraft/
#1805 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> Mikau: Play a better Zelda game.
#1806 [15:14] <Kealper> xD
#1807 [15:14] <Kiyo> i am going threw winscp
#1808 [15:14] <Kiyo> so i am not using commands i am just right clicking and hitting un compress
#1809 [15:15] <Kealper> commands ftw
#1810 [15:15] <xales> that is why
#1811 [15:15] <Kiyo> ?
#1812 [15:15] <xales> GUI = don't use
#1813 [15:15] <Kiyo> it was able to compress said file
#1814 [15:15] <xales> ._.
#1815 [15:16] <Kiyo> hmm can winrar make a .tgz file?
#1816 [15:16] <Kiyo> i used winrar to recompress it
#1817 [15:16] <Kealper> no, it can only read them
#1818 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> winrar = MY GOD RUN AWAY
#1819 [15:16] <Kealper> although i think it can modify tar.gz, just not create them
#1820 [15:16] <Kiyo> so link to a software that can?
#1821 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> if you MUST use a GUI archive manager, use 7zip
#1822 [15:18] <Kealper> Kiyo: literally the easiest way to do what you want is to download a program called PuTTY, connect to your server with SSH, and type in the commands :/
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#1826 [15:18] <Kiyo> okay well i have putty and am using it i use both in tandem.
#1827 [15:18] <xales> putty is all you need
#1828 [15:18] <xales> it has a sftp client
#1829 [15:19] <xales> or, comes with
#1830 [15:19] <Kiyo> so can putty make a .tgz file because i have the folder on the desk top
#1831 [15:19] <xales> no
#1832 [15:19] <SergeWolf> Can anyone help me understand how to host a Server for minecraft?
#1833 [15:19] <Kealper> it can't, but it can connect to the thing that can
#1834 [15:19] <xales> SergeWolf: What part don't you get?
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#1836 [15:19] <SergeWolf> I'm not sure where to find the host ip address for others to join my server
#1837 [15:19] <xales> http://whatismyip.com
#1838 [15:19] <Kealper> SergeWolf: you need your own ip?
#1839 [15:20] <Kealper> just type !myip
#1840 [15:20] <SergeWolf> in the command prompt of the server exe?
#1841 [15:20] <xales> no, here
#1842 [15:20] <Kealper> !myip
#1843 [15:20] <Kiyo> okay so how do i make the .tgz file for the folder on my home machine?
#1844 [15:20] <SergeWolf> !myip
#1845 [15:20] <xales> Kiyo: 15:16:54 <+DopeGhoti> if you MUST use a GUI archive manager, use 7zip
#1846 [15:21] <Kiyo> is tar the format i want?
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#1849 [15:29] <SkiingPenguins> Kiyo tar does not compress the files, but if you gzip or bzip the .tar file, then it is compressed.
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#1851 [15:30] <Kiyo> so after i make it into .tar with 7zip then i use it again and turn it into gzip?
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#1854 [15:31] <Taz605> right so i started my own server it's up and all but not got me as admin
#1855 [15:31] <FlyingWhales13> I downloaded the driver and it still crashes and another error report appears.
#1856 [15:32] <Taz605> how do i made mt self admin
#1857 [15:32] <SkiingPenguins> Kiyo: yes
#1858 [15:32] <SkiingPenguins> Taz605 edit the op.txt file
#1859 [15:33] <Taz605> yea it's got my name on in
#1860 [15:33] <xales> then you are an admin
#1861 [15:33] <Taz605> but i can't change it to day or what on
#1862 [15:33] <SkiingPenguins> you cant normally change the time...
#1863 [15:34] <feenyx> that requires addons
#1864 [15:34] <Taz605> ahh
#1865 [15:34] <feenyx> which you'd best ask about help for in #bukkit
#1866 [15:34] <Kiyo> http://java.net/projects/essentials/pages/Commands
#1867 [15:34] <Kiyo> i use bukkit and this mod is great
#1868 [15:34] <Kiyo> does that look like what you want?
#1869 [15:35] <Kiyo> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/gen-essentials-v153-basics-kits-homes-mail-permissions-support.1262/
#1870 [15:36] <Kiyo> so is it hard to make a new block? like if i wanted to make a stone block that looked like stone but was phantom (walk threw) so it would look like a wall but you could walk threw it
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#1872 [15:36] <Wahrheit> Anyone have experience with Minetographer or Tectonicus?
#1873 [15:37] <Wahrheit> My signs and players will show up offline but not online
#1874 [15:37] <FlyingWhales13> What do I do to fix it?
#1875 [15:38] <xales> What error?
#1876 [15:38] <xales> http://pastebin.com/ it
#1877 [15:38] <Wahrheit> xales: check it :p
#1878 [15:38] <Wahrheit> http://www.summaxr.com/minecraft/map.html
#1879 [15:38] <FlyingWhales13> http://pastebin.com/hfrBK2fS
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#1881 [15:40] <Kiyo> god this things upspeed is crap 12kb...
#1882 [15:41] <xales> FlyingWhales13: What graphics card is it
#1883 [15:41] <FlyingWhales13> ATI Radeon x3000 Dell Inspiron 6000
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#1885 [15:41] <FlyingWhales13> I have the driver installed that you linked me to.
#1886 [15:42] <shadoom> Hey, uhm what does "save-on" on the server actually do ? when save-on is toggled do i still need to save-all before stopping ?
#1887 [15:42] <xales> yes
#1888 [15:42] <shadoom> aw :(
#1889 [15:43] <xales> FlyingWhales13: It looks like a problem with the card...it may not be able to run Minecraft, it is pretty old
#1890 [15:43] <shadoom> is there any documentation what "save-on" actually does? more than just "renables terrain saving" ?
#1891 [15:44] <Kealper> just what it says
#1892 [15:44] <Kealper> if you do save-off, it will make it so the server will not write data to the hdd
#1893 [15:44] <xales> Kealper
#1894 [15:44] <xales> look at stack trace
#1895 [15:44] <xales> http://pastebin.com/hfrBK2fS
#1896 [15:44] <Kealper> so programs that do automatic backups of the map can do save-off, backup the stuff, then do save-on
#1897 [15:44] <shadoom> ah alright :) thanks
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#1899 [15:45] <FlyingWhales13> Alright. I have another computer to try it on, and it has a ATI Radeon x1300. Is that good enough for the game?
#1900 [15:45] <Kealper> xales: ati driver fail?
#1901 [15:45] <xales> looks like it
#1902 [15:45] <Kealper> who's error am i looking at? lol
#1903 [15:46] <FlyingWhales13> That's mine.
#1904 [15:46] <Kealper> iirc someone else was having issues with a radeon x1300 a while back
#1905 [15:46] <Kealper> which is quite a dated card now
#1906 [15:47] <Kealper> but it might work
#1907 [15:47] <Kealper> one way to find out :O
#1908 [15:47] <aetherian> :o
#1909 [15:47] <FlyingWhales13> Alright I will try it and see what happens. Be back in a bit.
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#1913 [15:55] <FlyingWhales14> http://pastebin.com/gxn9Hp3j on the x1300
#1914 [15:55] <FlyingWhales13> That was my desktop.
#1915 [15:56] <Kealper> ati driver fail :(
#1916 [15:56] <Kealper> try updating your graphics drivers....
#1917 [15:56] <Kealper> or have you?
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#1919 [15:57] <FlyingWhales13> Not yet.
#1920 [15:57] <FlyingWhales13> I don't know if it will work.
#1921 [15:57] <Arkose> for reference you can get the latest ATI drivers from this page: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx
#1922 [15:57] <Kiyo> okay i need to ask about a stupid question, whats the cmd to start a bukkit server
#1923 [15:57] <xales> ask #bukkit
#1924 [15:57] <Kiyo> just thought someone here might know it
#1925 [15:57] <Kiyo> thanks for all your help
#1926 [15:58] <Kiyo> oh nmv just reembered it
#1927 [16:00] <FlyingWhales13> Now I must try it on another comp. It has a NVidia GeForce FX Go5200. New enough?
#1928 [16:01] <Artitsa> Hello, I've read the FAQ and my issue is not addressed there, Would you mind if I asked?
#1929 [16:01] <xales> That isn't new at all >.>
#1930 [16:01] <xales> Artitsa: Go ahead
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#1932 [16:01] <FlyingWhales13> I know it isnt new. That's kind of obvious. I just mean will it work?
#1933 [16:02] <xales> No idea
#1934 [16:02] <Artitsa> I've played MC on my laptop, and its run perfectly well. I've installed it on my home PC and I recieve the following error: Can't connect to minecraft.net play online once to enable offline play
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#1936 [16:02] <Artitsa> I have deleted minecraft from appdata and reinstalled
#1937 [16:02] <relsqui> Artitsa: probably just a brief server outage
#1938 [16:02] <relsqui> wait a few minutes and try again
#1939 [16:02] <relsqui> (or a few seconds, whatever)
#1940 [16:02] <Artitsa> I wish that was the case
#1941 [16:02] <relsqui> the server is pretty sketchy, it happens a lot
#1942 [16:02] <Artitsa> However, everytime I come home - everytime - I recieve this error message.
#1943 [16:03] <Artitsa> Which would suggest the server is down 85% of the time?
#1944 [16:03] <relsqui> well
#1945 [16:03] <relsqui> it's rarely down *long* but it is down *frequently*
#1946 [16:03] <xales> Artitsa: Using windows 7 or vista?
#1947 [16:03] <Artitsa> 7
#1948 [16:03] <xales> open start menu, in search bar, type 'cmd' and hit enter
#1949 [16:04] <Artitsa> okie dokes
#1950 [16:04] <xales> in the box that comes up, type 'ping minecraft.net' and hit enter
#1951 [16:04] <Artitsa> request timed out
#1952 [16:04] <xales> on the first line
#1953 [16:04] <xales> something like
#1954 [16:04] <xales> Pinging minecraft.net [50.16.203.217] with 32 bytes of data:
#1955 [16:04] <xales> what are the numbers after minecraft.net
#1956 [16:05] <Artitsa> the exact same IP address
#1957 [16:05] <Artitsa> 4 packets sent, 0 recieved
#1958 [16:05] <xales> try, 'tracert minecraft'net
#1959 [16:05] <xales> errerr
#1960 [16:05] <xales> try, 'tracert minecraft.net'
#1961 [16:05] <xales> lol
#1962 [16:05] <xales> paste the first 3 lines of output it gives you
#1963 [16:06] <NinjaKirby> Bracing for impact
#1964 [16:07] <Artitsa> 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.2.1
#1965 [16:07] <Artitsa> 2 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms bas1-markham24_lo0_SYMP.net.bell.ca [64.230.200.
#1966 [16:07] <Artitsa> 154]
#1967 [16:07] <Artitsa> 3 6 ms 6 ms 5 ms agg1-toronto47_8-2-0_100.net.bell.ca [64.230.56.
#1968 [16:07] <Artitsa> 98]
#1969 [16:07] <Artitsa> 4 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms bx2-ashburn_so1-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.185.141]
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#1971 [16:07] <Kealper> need to get grey to aop that
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#1973 [16:08] <xales> Artitsa: hmm
#1974 [16:08] <xales> can you pastebin the whole thing?
#1975 [16:08] <xales> http://pastebin.com/
#1976 [16:09] <xales> Kealper, help Artitsa, I gotta go for a bit
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#1980 [16:10] <Kealper> Artitsa: can i get a crash-course on your issue? lol
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#1983 [16:10] <Artitsa> sure thing
#1984 [16:11] <Artitsa> I've played MC on my laptop, and its run perfectly well. I've installed it on my home PC and I recieve the following error: Can't connect to minecraft.net play online once to enable offline play
#1985 [16:11] <Artitsa> I have attempted to connect several times at several different periods on several different days over the course of several weeks
#1986 [16:11] <Artitsa> http://pastebin.com/5DWmAyvB
#1987 [16:11] <Kealper> alright, can you get on minecraft.net from a browser on it?
#1988 [16:12] <Artitsa> sure can
#1989 [16:12] <Artitsa> I'm logged in as well
#1990 [16:12] <Kealper> what browser do you use?
#1991 [16:12] <Artitsa> lol...
#1992 [16:12] <Artitsa> its IE on this comp
#1993 [16:12] * NinjaKirby conceals his reaction
#1993 [16:12] <feenyx> ooh, things are going south
#1994 [16:12] <Kealper> and IE can access the site just fine? hmm
#1995 [16:12] <Artitsa> not my comp guys, lol
#1996 [16:13] <feenyx> http://feenyx.net/images/topography.png
#1997 [16:13] <NinjaKirby> It's a miracle in itself...
#1998 [16:13] <NinjaKirby> :P
#1999 [16:14] <Kealper> Artitsa: and cmd can ping minecraft.net?
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#2001 [16:14] <Kealper> do you have any antivirus software or firewall software installed/
#2002 [16:14] <Artitsa> hmm
#2003 [16:15] <Artitsa> doesn't seem like it
#2004 [16:15] <Kealper> windows firewall?
#2005 [16:15] <Artitsa> more than likely enabled. I doubt my mother has touched it since first booting it. Also, could not ping minecraft.net
#2006 [16:16] <Kealper> that's weird
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#2008 [16:16] <Kealper> no, no that is not, i can't ping it either
#2009 [16:17] <Sir> Hey, everytime I put a flatmap into my smp server everytime I connect to it it gives me a java error and kicks me out, I can walk around for a few seconds but nothing I do applies to the world any insights on that?
#2010 [16:17] <Kealper> Sir: the map is probably corrupt
#2011 [16:17] <Kealper> Artitsa: hmm....give me a few sec to do a bit of testing
#2012 [16:17] <Artitsa> okie dokes
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#2014 [16:18] <Kealper> ok, looks like they just have one server for the site right now....open cmd and type nslookup minecraft.net
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#2016 [16:19] <Kealper> does the non-authorative answer give 50.16.203.217 as the ip?
#2017 [16:19] <Artitsa> yes
#2018 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> What's up Kealper?
#2019 [16:21] <Kealper> ok then, uhh.... go to your start menu search bar and type Internet Options
#2020 [16:22] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: his client can't access minecraft.net, his browser can, everything checks out, no av/firewalls being screwy
#2021 [16:22] <Artitsa> okay
#2022 [16:22] <Kealper> go to Connections
#2023 [16:22] <Kealper> click LAN settings
#2024 [16:23] <Kealper> Automatically detect settings should be checked
#2025 [16:23] <Artitsa> sure is
#2026 [16:23] <Kealper> hmm
#2027 [16:23] <Kealper> cloes out of that, it isn't the problem then
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#2030 [16:23] <Kealper> just for craps and grins, try disabling windows firewall completely
#2031 [16:24] <Kealper> my neighbor is carrying a 42" LCD tv box out of his car :O
#2032 [16:24] <Artitsa> 1) firewall is off
#2033 [16:24] <Artitsa> 2) rob him
#2034 [16:24] <Artitsa> looks like firewall was off the whole time
#2035 [16:24] <Kealper> damn
#2036 [16:25] <Kealper> short of reinstalling minecraft/java....i'm out of ideas
#2037 [16:25] <Kealper> and i already got one of those for the second one :P
#2038 [16:25] <Artitsa> oh right.. I've already deleted minecraft from appdata and reinstalled
#2039 [16:25] <Artitsa> :\
#2040 [16:25] <Kealper> crap
#2041 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Try manually adding minecraft's ip to HOSTS?
#2042 [16:25] <Kealper> ok grey, you're turn, i'm spent
#2043 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> or a different DNS solution?
#2044 [16:26] <Kealper> resolves fine :/
#2045 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Um.
#2046 [16:26] <Kealper> nslookup gives the same address as me, and minecraft.net no longer responds to icmp pings -.-
#2047 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, cuts down on the kiddie script attacks.
#2048 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Um.
#2049 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Artitsa - You've got no security software running on that machine at all?
#2050 [16:29] <Artitsa> Doesn't look like it
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#2052 [16:29] <Artitsa> processes doesn't indicate any
#2053 [16:29] <Artitsa> I'll have to mention that to the owner of the computer
#2054 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Describe this computer. How is it hooked up to the internet?
#2055 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Laptop? Desktop? Store-bought? Self-built?
#2056 [16:31] <Artitsa> dell desktop
#2057 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Brand/model?
#2058 [16:31] <Artitsa> Not a clue
#2059 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Should be on the tower itself.
#2060 [16:32] <Artitsa> I would be so fortunate
#2061 [16:32] <Artitsa> but I am not.
#2062 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, okay.
#2063 [16:32] <Artitsa> its relatively new
#2064 [16:32] <Artitsa> within the past year
#2065 [16:33] <Artitsa> connected through ethernet cable to a wireless router
#2066 [16:33] <Artitsa> bell highspeed
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#2068 [16:33] <Bitenbois> hi people
#2069 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2070 [16:34] <Bitenbois> does someone have Minecraft on a mac?
#2071 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Artitsa - Is it hooked up directly to the modem itself, or passing through a router?
#2072 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Bitenbois - Many people have
#2073 [16:35] <Bitenbois> come ooon :D
#2074 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Bitenbois - What do you need?
#2075 [16:35] <Bitenbois> i've just bought it few minutes ago and I can't launch the .app :/
#2076 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Bitenbois - What does it say?
#2077 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Artitsa - Still there?
#2078 [16:36] <Bitenbois> nothing just double click or cmd+o and nothing happens
#2079 [16:37] <Artitsa> hooked up directly
#2080 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Bitenbois - Can you open up terminal, drag the .app over, and see if it gives you anything back
#2081 [16:37] <Bitenbois> 'kay I try now
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#2083 [16:38] <Ph3n3x> Hey all
#2084 [16:38] <Arkose> hi
#2085 [16:38] <Ph3n3x> I've got a problem that's absolutely driving me crazy
#2086 [16:38] <Arkose> ask away :)
#2087 [16:38] <Ph3n3x> Minecraft crashes on me after about 3 minutes of gameplay
#2088 [16:38] <Ph3n3x> black screen
#2089 [16:39] <Ph3n3x> and i notice that all my resources are being used when it crashes
#2090 [16:39] <Ph3n3x> i have 2 gigs of ram and a dual core processor
#2091 [16:39] <Ph3n3x> windows 7
#2092 [16:40] <Bitenbois> GreyVulpine - After droping it it just gives me, I pressed enter and say "-bash: /Applications/Minecraft.app: is a directory"
#2093 [16:40] <xales> Ph3n3x: Turn graphics settings down
#2094 [16:40] <Ph3n3x> they're on tiny draw distance
#2095 [16:40] <Ph3n3x> and fast graphics
#2096 [16:41] <Ph3n3x> doesn't help at all
#2097 [16:41] <xales> Do you have any other programs open?
#2098 [16:41] <Ph3n3x> none
#2099 [16:41] <xales> Antivirus...etc?
#2100 [16:42] <Ph3n3x> nothing :P
#2101 [16:42] <xales> totally absolutely nothing else?
#2102 [16:42] <Bitenbois> Ph3n3x - try to reduce fog with the f key also
#2103 [16:43] <Ph3n3x> i have fog off as well
#2104 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Bitenbois - try a: chmod +x , then drag the minecraft.app over
#2105 [16:43] <Ph3n3x> nothing more than the resources widget
#2106 [16:44] <xales> GreyVulpine: .app is just a directory
#2107 [16:44] <xales> prefix with open to launch it
#2108 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> doah
#2109 [16:44] <xales> open watever.app
#2110 [16:44] * GreyVulpine pokes Bitenbois with that
#2110 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> xales - Do you have any idea why Artitsa's downloaded client gives "unable to access minecraft.net" but they can play it in-browser?
#2111 [16:45] <xales> Firewall?
#2112 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> No firewall.
#2113 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> No security software.
#2114 [16:45] <xales> No idea >.>
#2115 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> no going through a proxy, kealper looked.
#2116 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> DNS brings back the right IP
#2117 [16:46] <xales> trace?
#2118 [16:47] <Kealper> his browser can connect to the site normally, login and everything
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#2120 [16:47] <xales> bad launcher?
#2121 [16:47] <Kealper> he got a fresh copy of that, reinstalled java, etc
#2122 [16:47] <Kealper> my mind = blown on this one
#2123 [16:47] <xales> what exactly is the error?
#2124 [16:48] <Bitenbois> GreyVulpine - I've changed the rights and always the same
#2125 [16:48] <Kealper> can't connect to minecraft.net in the launcher when he tries to login
#2126 [16:48] <Kealper> same thing it'd say if mc.net was down
#2127 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Bitenbois - Use the open command, in your terminal, type open then drag the minecraft.app over
#2128 [16:48] <nipper> Could be something is blocking the connection.
#2129 [16:48] <nipper> I do that alot via router on my little brothers computer to piss him off.
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#2131 [16:49] <nipper> See if they can even go to minecraft.net if its block then thats why.
#2132 [16:49] <Kealper> nipper: website works in a browser
#2133 [16:49] <nipper> Hmm, Maybe a ports are block that mc users for logins then.
#2134 [16:50] <Kealper> mc uses standard http GET for login
#2135 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> that port is 80.
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#2137 [16:50] <nipper> or some type of av/virii/firewall is blocking java from connecting.
#2138 [16:51] <Kealper> no av/firewall, possibly virii, but he seemed fairly intelligent, so unless it was an epic rootkit who's sole purpose was to hate on java, it probably was not that
#2139 [16:51] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#2140 [16:51] <nipper> True.
#2141 [16:51] <nipper> But you never know in this world.
#2142 [16:52] <statikz> Can't we all just get along?
#2143 [16:52] <nipper> If they can test another computer on the network it would tell you if it's the computer or not.
#2144 [16:52] <SkiingPenguins> or even test on a computer outside of the network
#2145 [16:52] <Kealper> statikz: eh?
#2146 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Artitsa - What kind of operating system is it?
#2147 [16:53] <statikz> The java haters need to get along.
#2148 [16:53] <the_late_man> heh
#2149 [16:53] <nipper> lol
#2150 [16:53] <nipper> I like java but hate it for mc.
#2151 [16:53] <nipper> Only reason why is it's a resource hog.
#2152 [16:54] <Artitsa> Hey sorry!
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#2154 [16:55] <Bitenbois> GreyVulpine - with the option command I get this "LSOpenURLsWithRole() failed with error -10810 for the file /Applications/Minecraft.app."
#2155 [16:55] <Bitenbois> I mean open command
#2156 [16:55] <Artitsa> OS is Windows 7
#2157 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Bitenbois - Use this command:
#2158 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2159 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Then, use open Minecraft.app again
#2160 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Artitsa - under the network.. connections? What group does the network appear under? public? private/home..
#2161 [16:57] <Artitsa> hold on Im trying something else
#2162 [16:58] <Bitenbois> GreyVulpine - You're the best :) thank you!
#2163 [16:58] <tisverycool> Hello. Trying to find a working server. Any ideas, please?
#2164 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> http://mcserverlist.net/
#2165 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#2166 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> servers.minecraftforum.net/
#2167 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers
#2168 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> http://phonicuk.com/serverlist/
#2169 [16:58] * GreyVulpine coughs
#2169 [16:58] <Bitenbois> GreyVulpine - I turn like a charm now
#2170 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> gesundheit
#2171 [16:59] <aetherian> good health
#2172 [16:59] <statik> oops, Did not mean to smurf.
#2173 [17:00] <tisverycool> Thanks. Was trying to find out whether there was one spec
#2174 [17:00] <tisverycool> Specific working one. Will search those sites.
#2175 [17:01] <Artitsa> okay I can play offline now through client..
#2176 [17:02] <Artitsa> java.net.NoRouteToHostException: No Route to Host: connect
#2177 [17:03] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2177 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Where'd you get that error?
#2178 [17:03] <aetherian> o.o -.- o.o
#2179 [17:03] <aetherian> better way to say /me blinks
#2180 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> yes, because 11 characters is shorter than ten.
#2181 [17:04] <tisverycool> Does anyone use 109.108.140.14? It seems to be down...
#2182 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> !check 109.108.140.14
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#2184 [17:05] <aetherian> dope: you lazy bum, it's not about characters
#2185 [17:06] <tisverycool> Aha! Down then.
#2186 [17:07] <tisverycool> This is Hostingvortex, which I actually donated cash to. More fool me.
#2187 [17:08] <aetherian> they took your money, and now see what happens.
#2188 [17:08] <tisverycool> A tough lesson.
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#2190 [17:10] <aetherian> what fun
#2191 [17:12] <Artitsa> I got that error when I tried to connect to a multiplayer server
#2192 [17:14] <Lipsion> Hello, does anyone know how to get you're server to run more smoother? Have some latency issues
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#2194 [17:14] <Matty_Mc> hello
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#2196 [17:14] <the_whovian> hi there?
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#2198 [17:14] <Matty_Mc> ive just bought minecraft and my computer wont play it :/
#2199 [17:15] <Auly> Hello all
#2200 [17:15] <the_whovian> i've got a bit of a problem with my MC...
#2201 [17:15] <the_whovian> constant crashing
#2202 [17:15] <Matty_Mc> any ideas who i can speak to about getting the problem sorted or a refund
#2203 [17:15] <SkiingPenguins> Matty_Mc why cant it play it?
#2204 [17:16] <aetherian> how much ram ya got?
#2205 [17:16] <Matty_Mc> 3gig
#2206 [17:16] <Matty_Mc> inecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#2207 [17:17] <nipper> matty update video drivers and update java.
#2208 [17:17] <nipper> also directx as well.
#2209 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> no directx
#2210 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Just video drivers
#2211 [17:18] <Bitenbois> Minecraft uses a lot of ram
#2212 [17:18] <nipper> Doesnt dx install newest opengl drivers.
#2213 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> No'
#2214 [17:18] <Bitenbois> my CPU is @78 o_O
#2215 [17:18] <Bitenbois> degrees
#2216 [17:18] <the_whovian> to anyone who may be able to help me: I'm on Mac OS 10.6.6, java is up to date, i reinstalled MC, tried playing from the browser, it still freezes my computer for about 15 seconds, and then crashes MC (or browser if it's in browser)
#2217 [17:18] <Matty_Mc> yeh.. how do i update the driver
#2218 [17:18] * Auly sighs and still trying to get connected to a server and be able to actually do anything.
#2218 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Matty_Mc - Could you tell us what video card you have?
#2219 [17:18] <Matty_Mc> not a clue
#2220 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Matty_Mc - Okay, then, start with telling us what operating system you have
#2221 [17:19] <Matty_Mc> widnows 7
#2222 [17:19] <Matty_Mc> windows 7
#2223 [17:19] <nipper> Ati/Nvidia or intel?
#2224 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, type this in the search bar: dxdiag
#2225 [17:19] <Matty_Mc> intel
#2226 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Press enter
#2227 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Dxdiag pops up, correct?
#2228 [17:20] <Matty_Mc> yeh
#2229 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Press the "save all information" button in the lower right, save it as a text file in a location you can get to
#2230 [17:20] * the_whovian waits patiently
#2230 [17:20] <Bitenbois> the_whovian - as you 're on mac os X try the tips that GreyVulpine gave me upper
#2231 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Once you have that, open up the text file, copy everything in there, and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#2232 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL
#2233 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> the_whovian: why wait? Just hop in the TARDIS and go to the point in time just before you get your answer.
#2234 [17:21] <the_whovian> :p
#2235 [17:21] <the_whovian> touche
#2236 [17:21] <the_whovian> Bitenbois: i don't see them?
#2237 [17:22] <Matty_Mc> id rather not
#2238 [17:22] <the_whovian> wow...
#2239 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> You rather not?
#2240 [17:22] <Matty_Mc> cant u just tell me what im looking for
#2241 [17:22] <nipper> Matty_Mc its just infomations about what hardware you have onyour computer.
#2242 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Video card manufacturer, name, driver details
#2243 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Whether it's a laptop or desktop
#2244 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> What date the video driver is from
#2245 [17:23] <Bitenbois> the_whovian: why don't you use the desktop version?
#2246 [17:23] <the_whovian> I am
#2247 [17:23] <the_whovian> that's what i normally play in
#2248 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> There is absolutely nothing on there that tells me your username or password, or any login info
#2249 [17:23] <the_whovian> but it crashes so frequently, i figured i'd try in browser
#2250 [17:24] <the_whovian> it did the same on there
#2251 [17:24] <nipper> os: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate - (6.1.7600) up: 1wk 4days 15hrs 38mins 52secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.50GHz (x64) at 2498MHz (13% Load) gfx: RealVNC res: 1680x1050 32bit 59Hz ram: 3760/8190.2MB (45.9%) [|||||-----]
#2252 [17:24] <nipper> opps
#2253 [17:24] <nipper> worng command.
#2254 [17:24] <xales> the_whovian: Computer specs?
#2255 [17:24] <xales> how much RAM, graphics card
#2256 [17:24] <Bitenbois> I'm not sure that it would be better on a browser
#2257 [17:24] <xales> It would infact, be worse
#2258 [17:25] <the_whovian> RAM: 4GB
#2259 [17:25] <the_whovian> Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M
#2260 [17:25] <the_whovian> i wasn't having an issue till the 1.2 update
#2261 [17:25] <nipper> laptop
#2262 [17:25] <the_whovian> MacBook Pro
#2263 [17:25] <xales> the_whovian: Turn fog down
#2264 [17:25] <the_whovian> it' off
#2265 [17:25] <the_whovian> it's*
#2266 [17:25] <xales> no, I mean
#2267 [17:25] <xales> view distance
#2268 [17:25] <xales> in options
#2269 [17:26] <Matty_Mc> is there anyway i could just get a refund?
#2270 [17:26] <Matty_Mc> its a brand new laptop it should be able 2 play a 8 bit game
#2271 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft works just fine on Macbook Pros
#2272 [17:26] <Bitenbois> me too the 13" w/ 4gig C2D NVidia 320M
#2273 [17:26] <the_whovian> well what confuses me is, my friends have pretty much the same computer as I do, same settings, and have no issues
#2274 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> and it's not an 8'bit game
#2275 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Matty_Mc - If you don't give us the information we're looking for, to try to help you, you can get a refund at payment@mojang.com
#2276 [17:27] <Bitenbois> really high temperature but no crash
#2277 [17:27] <Matty_Mc> i dont feel comfortable sharing info on mirc sorry
#2278 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> That's fine.
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#2280 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Payment@mojang.com is what you're looking for then
#2281 [17:27] <relsqui> heh
#2282 [17:27] <the_whovian> yea, high temp :p
#2283 [17:27] <relsqui> it's not an 8-bit game in the slightest
#2284 [17:28] <relsqui> it just uses low-res textures
#2285 [17:28] <relsqui> t:P
#2286 [17:28] <relsqui> .... I'm using t before I talk in irc now
#2287 [17:28] <relsqui> tawesome
#2288 [17:28] <relsqui> ....
#2289 [17:28] <Bitenbois> 82°C for example :p
#2290 [17:28] <relsqui> I'm not doing that on purpose :|
#2291 [17:28] <the_whovian> lmao i do it too XD
#2292 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: you think that's bad- I type a lot on the MC console, so I prefix 'say ' to a lot of what I type in IRC now :p
#2293 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#2294 [17:28] * relsqui grins
#2294 [17:28] <the_whovian> lol
#2295 [17:29] <relsqui> I got that habit from MUDs except with '
#2296 [17:29] <relsqui> 'like this.
#2297 [17:29] <Bitenbois> for the high t° you can try to use smcFanControl
#2298 [17:29] <the_whovian> i've got SMC :p
#2299 [17:29] <the_whovian> i also have a program called FanControl, i prefer it and SMC together
#2300 [17:30] <the_whovian> FanControl changes the speed based on the temp, and i can monitor it with SMC
#2301 [17:30] <the_whovian> so, if i turn down rendering distance down, and it still crashes then, then what do i do?
#2302 [17:30] <Bitenbois> not a bad idea
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#2304 [17:32] <Bitenbois> all I see is that macusers have the same behaviors
#2305 [17:34] <ItsCriminal|AFK> hi is there any really god map editor out there?
#2306 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> mcedit
#2307 [17:34] <xales> ^
#2308 [17:34] <ItsCriminal|AFK> i dont like MC-Edit
#2309 [17:34] <ItsCriminal|AFK> ^^
#2310 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Too bad
#2311 [17:34] <ItsCriminal|AFK> well not liking it is bad explained
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#2313 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> bad explained?
#2314 [17:34] <ItsCriminal|AFK> im not getting into it :D
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#2316 [17:35] <ItsCriminal|AFK> i know its totaly easy but that makes it hard for me
#2317 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Alright then, well, you have our opinion.
#2318 [17:35] <ItsCriminal|AFK> i try to get used to it :D
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#2320 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> That's one paranoid person..
#2321 [17:44] <ItsCriminal|AFK> me?
#2322 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> No, matty.
#2323 [17:44] <ItsCriminal|AFK> oh ok :D
#2324 [17:45] <Elvang> Is the music supposed to be playing constantly, or is it triggered by events?
#2325 [17:45] <ItsCriminal|AFK> damn i cant change my nickname -.-
#2326 [17:45] <xales> ItsCriminal|AFK: Leave #minecraft
#2327 [17:46] <xales> in the future, link your |AFK name to your normal one so you don't need to do that
#2328 [17:46] <xales> /msg nickserv link itscriminal|afk
#2329 [17:46] <ItsCriminal> yeah first i need to register :D
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#2331 [17:46] <xales> yes...that
#2332 [17:46] <ItsCriminal> so good did the first step :D
#2333 [17:47] <ItsCriminal> now authing :D
#2334 [17:47] <xales> finally someone who can figure stuff out on their own ._.
#2335 [17:47] <mib_cpwyq5> I don't suppose anyone knows anything about setting up a private classic server, would they?
#2336 [17:47] <xales> what part do you need help with, mib_cpwyq5
#2337 [17:47] <ItsCriminal> well it is easy :D
#2338 [17:48] <mib_cpwyq5> I've downloaded the appropriate files, edited the server.properties
#2339 [17:48] <mib_cpwyq5> ran the server.bat file
#2340 [17:48] <xales> ItsCriminal: You wouldn't believe how many people ask me about y cant i talk!!!!1!1111omgraeg and need step-by-step instructions on how to do it
#2341 [17:48] <mib_cpwyq5> But now I'm not sure how to verify that my server is actually working. Nor do I know the URL to get to it
#2342 [17:48] <xales> Is there an externalurl.txt file in the folder where start.bat is?
#2343 [17:48] <mib_cpwyq5> no
#2344 [17:48] <ItsCriminal> omg xales :D
#2345 [17:49] <xales> GreyVulpine: pokee
#2346 [17:49] <xales> mib_cpwyq5: one sec
#2347 [17:49] <ItsCriminal> so link worked out
#2348 [17:49] <xales> indeed it did
#2349 [17:50] <ItsCriminal> well i have to say im a IRC server owner too but we dont use AUTH cos we have not that many people
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#2351 [17:51] <xales> Kealper poke
#2352 [17:51] <mtc> hi - I am having some trouble playing on ubuntu - I finally got the sun-java thing worked out, but then the .jar said to Play online one to enable offline , so I got the sun-java plugin working in firefox, but I cannot seem to get the .jar to recognize that I played online once ... any suggestions?
#2353 [17:51] <ItsCriminal> but i like it here :D
#2354 [17:52] <Arkose> mtc: you need to log onto Minecraft from the .jar--not in your browser.
#2355 [17:52] <mib_cpwyq5> ...
#2356 [17:52] <mtc> Arkose: I am confused how to do that - I tried to login from the .jar and got that error about Play online one time to enable offline
#2357 [17:52] <xales> mib_cpwyq5: I don't have much experience with Classic servers, just wait a few minutes until someone who does is around
#2358 [17:53] <mib_cpwyq5> all right, thanks for the attempt regardless then
#2359 [17:53] <xales> mtc: Is that all it says? Nothing about "can't connect to minecraft.net" as well as that?
#2360 [17:53] <mtc> xales: no, nothing like that... "User not premium Play online once to enable offline [Try again] "
#2361 [17:53] <xales> You bought beta, right?
#2362 [17:54] <mtc> no, just trying it out for the first time now
#2363 [17:54] <xales> The download is Beta - you can only play Classic in the browser
#2364 [17:54] <ItsCriminal> o.O
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#2366 [17:54] <xales> Classic = free
#2367 [17:54] <dickface> hey question here
#2368 [17:54] <ItsCriminal> oh i think i missed that ^^
#2369 [17:54] <xales> go ahead and ask
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#2371 [17:54] <mtc> xales: oh, the .jar only works after you pay? hmm, the browser window is awful small
#2372 [17:55] <dickface> how can i get name tags to be viewed at longer distance
#2373 [17:55] <mtc> Arkose xales : well, thanks for your responses
#2374 [17:55] <xales> yeah, the downloadable one is Beta, and is a very different game
#2375 [17:55] <xales> dickface: With a mod, possibly.
#2376 [17:55] <Arkose> tons more features. If you like Classic you'll loooove beta. :)
#2377 [17:55] <dickface> any idea what mod?
#2378 [17:55] <mtc> seems expensive for a beta
#2379 [17:55] <xales> No idea ,sorry
#2380 [17:55] <dickface> thanks
#2381 [17:56] <xales> mtc: It includes all future versions of the game up to and including the release
#2382 [17:56] <mtc> well, we'll see how the browser window goes, thanks
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#2385 [17:58] <outpox> hello
#2386 [17:58] <xales> hello
#2387 [17:58] <NinjaKirby> hello
#2388 [17:59] <SkiingPenguins> hi
#2389 [17:59] <outpox> I posted a topic about Mod with minecraft on linux
#2390 [17:59] <outpox> But it doesn't seem to interest many people :X
#2391 [17:59] <outpox> That why I'd like some feedback, am I doing something wrong ?
#2392 [18:00] <outpox> Here's the link : http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=166328&p=2449051#p2449051
#2393 [18:00] <xales> What do you mean?
#2394 [18:00] <outpox> No one answered
#2395 [18:00] <outpox> I'd like to know if i've done something bafd
#2396 [18:00] <outpox> bad*
#2397 [18:00] <outpox> Or not
#2398 [18:00] <Arkose> modding methods aren't all that different on Linux.
#2399 [18:00] <outpox> Maybe some wrong translation etc...
#2400 [18:00] <Arkose> which would be part of the reason.
#2401 [18:01] <outpox> Yeah I know, but when I tried for the 1st time it wasn't so easy
#2402 [18:01] <xales> Nope, nothing wrong outpox, though you only posted it recently, so don't expect much attention to it that fast
#2403 [18:03] <outpox> Ok thank you for your answered ! You know English isn't my native language, that's why I was asking me if I've had done a mistake
#2404 [18:04] <outpox> Well I have to sleep
#2405 [18:04] <outpox> Good night and thanks for your help
#2406 [18:08] <Elvang> Anyone use magma in their tree farm?
#2407 [18:09] <Arkose> as a light source, or to clear away leaves etc. when done?
#2408 [18:09] <Elvang> I was thinking to clear away leaves before hand, and flush with water to save the trunks
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#2410 [18:12] <Retro> Guys I need help
#2411 [18:13] <Retro> I just downloaded the game and none of the download links work
#2412 [18:13] <Retro> I get an error msg when I try to run the game
#2413 [18:13] <SkiingPenguins> what's it say?
#2414 [18:13] <Retro> one sec
#2415 [18:13] <xales> What error?
#2416 [18:14] <Retro> "Could not find main class: net.minecraft.MinecraftLauncher.Program will exit"
#2417 [18:15] <Arkose> Elvang: you can grow trees in "tubes" with little or no leaves produced. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=2345364#p2345364
#2418 [18:15] <Arkose> the height of the tube determines how much wood is produced, but for best results you'd want it to a height you can reach from ground level
#2419 [18:16] <xales> Retro: What OS are you using?
#2420 [18:16] <Elvang> So could I make trees as tall as I want with that method?
#2421 [18:16] <Retro> Windows
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#2423 [18:17] <xales> Retro: What version?
#2424 [18:17] <Retro> Vista
#2425 [18:17] <Arkose> Elvang: trees will grow to random heights within the space you've allowed. If you have the tube start a block or two higher than demonstrated in that post you'll get a few leaf blocks sufficient for getting enough saplings to keep things going.
#2426 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Retro - How are you launching the game?
#2427 [18:18] <xales> Retro: Can you play in the browser?
#2428 [18:18] <Retro> The browser version doesn't load
#2429 [18:18] <Retro> I'm launching it directly from the menu titled "downloads"
#2430 [18:18] <xales> Define "doesn't load"
#2431 [18:18] <xales> what specifically happens when you try
#2432 [18:19] <Retro> When I double click, then click "run" I automatically get the error msg
#2433 [18:20] <xales> No, in the browser
#2434 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> You got the minecraft.exe from the website?
#2435 [18:22] <Retro> I did
#2436 [18:22] <Retro> And in the browser the java icon in the loading gauge just won't budge.
#2437 [18:22] <Retro> It doesn't move.
#2438 [18:23] <xales> Do you have any antivirus software running?
#2439 [18:24] <Retro> Yes
#2440 [18:24] <xales> Disable it completely and try again
#2441 [18:25] <Retro> I've never disabled it...I don't know how
#2442 [18:25] <xales> What is it?
#2443 [18:25] <Retro> AVG
#2444 [18:25] <Retro> Edition before the latest update
#2445 [18:25] <xales> is it the free edition?
#2446 [18:25] <Retro> Yes
#2447 [18:25] <xales> Do you have the latest Java installed?
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#2450 [18:26] <Retro> I'm not quite sure. If I don't, could that be the reason behind the offline version not working?
#2451 [18:26] <kati> hello
#2452 [18:26] <xales> hello
#2453 [18:26] <Retro> Java has been requesting an update for a long time now.
#2454 [18:26] <kati> anyone speak german here?
#2455 [18:26] <Retro> hi! :)
#2456 [18:27] <xales> Retro: Yes - you should update it then
#2457 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti does
#2458 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> If he's here
#2459 [18:27] <Retro> Okay. I'm going to exit this browser now. How do I come back to this one specifically?
#2460 [18:27] * GreyVulpine pokes DopeGhoti
#2460 [18:28] <xales> Retro: http://esper.net/ click "chat now" in the top right
#2461 [18:28] <kati> not so bad, when he is not, but my english is not the best ^^
#2462 [18:28] <xales> type #minecrafthelp in the box
#2463 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> kati - what's the problem?
#2464 [18:28] <Retro> Okay
#2465 [18:28] <Retro> Thx so much, I'll be back :]
#2466 [18:28] <kati> i have just a question, i dont have paypal (lost secret answer and password) and no credit card, are they other ways to pay?
#2467 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, not really..
#2468 [18:30] <kati> thats bad =(
#2469 [18:31] <kati> i dont know nobody with credit card or paypal, i running hours through the free version, building giant houses and get really depressed that i cant save...
#2470 [18:32] <kati> seems, i must look at a gift code at ebay -.-
#2471 [18:35] <kati> but thanks for the help, guys =)
#2472 [18:35] <kati> have a good night
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#2480 [18:45] <Elvang> Just curious, how do you guys store stuff?
#2481 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> chests
#2482 [18:45] <ArmEagle> heh, this could be anything.. but this one server (running hey0 and a bunch of mods) keeps dropping this one red stone torch, failing one of the double doors
#2483 [18:45] <Elvang> Currently building a storage room with separate chests for different categories
#2484 [18:50] <beef> does anyone know anything about creating classic servers?
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#2486 [18:52] <statik> Ugh every time i wander around the world i get huge gaping holes in the terrain or the game just crashes all together.
#2487 [18:54] <statik> Heh, must be kickoff time.
#2488 [18:55] <aetherian> heh\
#2489 [18:55] <aetherian> I think you missed it?
#2490 [19:01] <ArmEagle> ah, found the problem.. red stone torch is placed on a block that's in the next chunk
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#2493 [19:09] <creeperGeneticist> So, I don't know if this is really Minecraft help in particular, but...
#2494 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> It is
#2495 [19:10] <creeperGeneticist> When I entered the Nether on the downloaded client, there was no sound and the client crashed shortly thereafter
#2496 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Does it give you an error/crash log?
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#2499 [19:12] <Ashibayai> Im new to minecraft just bought today
#2500 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2501 [19:12] <Ashibayai> So I a couple questions
#2502 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Shoot
#2503 [19:12] <SkiingPenguins> ask them :D
#2504 [19:12] <Ashibayai> have a^
#2505 [19:12] <Ashibayai> What is bukkit?
#2506 [19:12] <SkiingPenguins> a server mod
#2507 [19:12] <Ashibayai> Ok
#2508 [19:13] <creeperGeneticist> And now I find that neither the client on the website nor the downloaded one have any sound. And it didn't display a crash log, so unless there's a file that I'm unaware of, no.
#2509 [19:13] <Ashibayai> And I need help finding a server for multiplay
#2510 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> http://mcserverlist.net/
#2511 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#2512 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> servers.minecraftforum.net/
#2513 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers
#2514 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> http://phonicuk.com/serverlist/
#2515 [19:13] <Ashibayai> Ive been looking for a long while i used a couple of those pages
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#2517 [19:13] <SkiingPenguins> GreyVulpine you should make servers.minecraftforum.net clickable
#2518 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#2519 [19:14] <SkiingPenguins> or perhaps that is my ocd
#2520 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Fine
#2521 [19:14] <creeperGeneticist> The fact that both are affected makes me think something in Java borked on me, which is considerably disconcerting...
#2522 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Fixed
#2523 [19:14] <creeperGeneticist> It's persisted after restarting the computer, too.
#2524 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> creeperGeneticist - There's no log in the directory where you have minecraft.exe/jar?\\
#2525 [19:17] <creeperGeneticist> It doesn't look like there is...
#2526 [19:18] <Ashibayai> thanx for the help vulpine, i just need to find a smp server T_T
#2527 [19:19] <SkiingPenguins> there are plenty, i doubt you'll find that task difficult
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#2529 [19:23] <mib_0ipkaw> Hi
#2530 [19:23] <Ashibayai> there are plenty yes, but i want a active one, and whats the difference between the pvp and regular? Pvp means no monsters and homicidal human players?
#2531 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2532 [19:23] <mib_0ipkaw> This for minecraft?
#2533 [19:23] <Ashibayai> yep
#2534 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> PvP means the server is geared towards player vs player battles
#2535 [19:24] <mib_0ipkaw> So I just bought the game. But it did not register that my acount has it, dose it send you an email or something?
#2536 [19:24] <Ashibayai> wel yea i knew that, but other than that what changes between that and vanilla
#2537 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_0ipkaw - It can take a few hours for the transaction to process
#2538 [19:24] <Lipsion> I need some tips on how to get a server to run smoother, have some latency issues
#2539 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Ashibayai - Usually, it's just switching on a flag in vanilla "pvp=true"
#2540 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> enables player vs player damage
#2541 [19:24] <mib_0ipkaw> Okay thank you, I will try back if it has not worked in that long. And by it may take a few hours you mean hours to get a email or to verify my acount automaticly
#2542 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> verify automatically
#2543 [19:25] <mib_0ipkaw> Okay, thank you.
#2544 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> creeperGeneticist - Does it do this on the browser version as well?
#2545 [19:27] <creeperGeneticist> Yes
#2546 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> creeperGeneticist - How exactly does it crash? Does it just shut down without warning?
#2547 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> Does windows pop up anything?
#2548 [19:28] <aetherian> blimey this soda is sour
#2549 [19:29] <creeperGeneticist> It hasn't crashed again yet, there's just no sound whatsoever
#2550 [19:29] <creeperGeneticist> Coming from Minecraft, that is
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#2552 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> someone ping me?
#2553 [19:30] <SkiingPenguins> yea a guy wondered who talked german
#2554 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, don't worry about it
#2555 [19:31] <mib_uznpqm> When I download the Mincecraft.exe and dubble click it it says "Could not create the java virtual machine"
#2556 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Reinstall java
#2557 [19:31] <mib_uznpqm> Okay
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#2560 [19:34] <Retro> The game randomly stops responding and I have to reboot. What can I do?
#2561 [19:34] <Elvang> The entire system is locking up?
#2562 [19:35] <Retro> Just the offline game
#2563 [19:35] <Retro> desktop version
#2564 [19:37] <LatHans> what are the recommended values for java -Xms and -Xmx for a minecraft server on linux? I've got 12 GB of ram, and I'm running a minecraftserver with about 5 users and not too large of a map, but I use craftbuckit with a few plugins like permissions, essentials, worldedit, worldguard and dynmap...
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#2567 [19:38] <Treilah2> Hey, could you tell me how to update my server files?
#2568 [19:39] <Treilah2> My server runs at 1.2.01 but the game runs at 1.2.02
#2569 [19:39] <Treilah2> I tried downloading the newest version, but it still runs .01
#2570 [19:39] <Treilah2> Is there something special I need to do to get this working?
#2571 [19:39] <SkiingPenguins> delete the old binary and install the new one i would think
#2572 [19:39] <Treilah2> I tried that. Still is .01
#2573 [19:40] <SkiingPenguins> try putting the new binary in a different folder
#2574 [19:40] <Treilah2> Oh? Would that help?
#2575 [19:40] <SkiingPenguins> then edit your properties/add the world files
#2576 [19:40] <SkiingPenguins> i dont know
#2577 [19:42] <xales> .01
#2578 [19:42] <xales> is the latest server version
#2579 [19:42] <SkiingPenguins> >.< i guess i should have known that before i tried to help him
#2580 [19:42] <Treilah2> Correct, Xales
#2581 [19:42] <Treilah2> And none of my players can join my server [neither can I]
#2582 [19:47] <creeperGeneticist> GreyVulpine, were the directions to reinstall java aimed at me?
#2583 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> creeperGeneticist - Oh, no. Um.
#2584 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> creeperGeneticist - Have you deleted your .minecraft folder yet?
#2585 [19:52] <creeperGeneticist> I've deleted my minecraft.jar
#2586 [19:52] <Diablothein> holy blueballs.
#2587 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on creeperGeneticist?
#2588 [19:52] <Diablothein> I spawned on top of a mob spawner! o.o
#2589 [19:53] <creeperGeneticist> 64 bit Windows 7
#2590 [19:53] <Elvang> Nice diablothein
#2591 [19:53] <Diablothein> by on top, me, sand, spawner.
#2592 [19:53] <Diablothein> I spawn, bam, sand drops in on top of a spawner.
#2593 [19:54] <Diablothein> Spiders
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#2596 [19:59] <just1beber> hello
#2597 [19:59] <Elvang> Hello
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#2599 [20:00] <just1beber> Could somebody help me about Permission ?
#2600 [20:00] <xales> #bukkit is what you are looking for
#2601 [20:00] <just1beber> thanks
#2602 [20:00] <Diablothein> ...
#2603 [20:01] <Diablothein> Did anyone else notice that on the building in the intro of Vampires Suck, the SS symbol is repeated on the wall there?
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#2607 [20:22] <ArmEagle> I wonder how much Notch paid for those square heads on stage
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#2610 [20:30] <SkiingPenguins> haha ArmEagle
#2611 [20:32] <Arkose> $599 US DOLLARS
#2612 [20:32] <Gregor> Huh?
#2613 [20:32] <Arkose> oh, sorry, that joke has expired.
#2614 [20:32] <ArmEagle> < ArmEagle> I wonder how much Notch paid for those square heads on stage
#2615 [20:33] <Arkose> I feel so old.
#2616 [20:33] <Diablothein> Worst Halftime Show Ever.
#2617 [20:33] <Diablothein> Black Eyed Peas.
#2618 [20:33] <Gregor> What?
#2619 [20:33] <Gregor> OH, superbowl
#2620 [20:34] <Gregor> I think it should be filled with chips :/
#2621 [20:34] <Arkose> that thing that means so much in America but is barely known outside it
#2622 [20:34] <Gregor> Ya, I don't know anything about it
#2623 [20:34] <Gregor> And I'm in America
#2624 [20:34] <Diablothein> Ark, I don't even know who is playing, and I live in the States.
#2625 [20:34] <Arkose> haha
#2626 [20:34] * Gregor high-fives Diablothein
#2626 [20:37] <Diablothein> But I can tell you that my favourite Basketball team is playing Kalev Tallinn on the 9th.
#2627 [20:37] <Diablothein> Euroleague > NBA
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#2629 [20:38] <Gregor> Ahh, I just don't do sports :/
#2630 [20:39] <Gregor> I play accasional basket ball, and frisbee, but I don't watch anything
#2631 [20:39] <Diablothein> Basketball is a religion to my nationality.
#2632 [20:39] <Gregor> Which?
#2633 [20:39] <Diablothein> Lithuanian
#2634 [20:39] <Gregor> Coolio
#2635 [20:44] <Elvang> ...
#2636 [20:44] <Elvang> So apparently trees can spawn where you're currently standing
#2637 [20:44] <Kealper> oh....oh my
#2638 [20:45] <Kealper> did it kill you? lol
#2639 [20:45] <Elvang> Almost
#2640 [20:45] <Kealper> XD
#2641 [20:45] <Elvang> Was getting pizza when I heard my guy taking damage
#2642 [20:45] <Arkose> this happens all the time when I'm using bonemeal to insta-grow trees >_>
#2643 [20:45] <Kealper> lol
#2644 [20:46] <Arkose> the trees suffocate you. The Day of the Triffids was right!
#2645 [20:46] <ArmEagle> hehe
#2646 [20:46] <ArmEagle> loved that book
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#2648 [20:46] <ArmEagle> the only one of the English books I had to read
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#2651 [20:50] <Elvang> Eh, these tube trees are taking a long time to grow :\
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#2653 [20:50] <Arkose> use the Bonemeal, Luke.
#2654 [20:51] <Elvang> Out of the 6 I planted 1 1/2 hour ago, only one grew
#2655 [20:51] <Arkose> trees never grow when you want them to
#2656 [20:51] <Elvang> But that one grew the full 13 spaces I gave, and then branched into my hallway, completely blocking it off
#2657 [20:52] <Arkose> heh
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#2659 [20:52] <Elvang> They are nice and easy to chop down though, just hop on top of it and work my way to the ground
#2660 [20:55] <Elvang> Everynow and then the game will play this sound effect that sounds like wind going through a cave
#2661 [20:55] <Elvang> Does this mean theres something behind one of my walls?
#2662 [20:55] <ArmEagle> probably a dungeon yes
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#2664 [20:56] <Arkose> not a dungeon
#2665 [20:56] <Arkose> just random noises caused by dark areas (typically caves but can be user-created)
#2666 [20:56] <Arkose> see http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Ambience
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#2668 [20:56] <Elvang> Hmm
#2669 [20:57] <Elvang> So it means theres atleast a 3x3 open space somewhere nearby that is unlit
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#2671 [20:57] <ArmEagle> hmm, any chance that doesn't play when you have music turned off? I haven't heard that in ages on this SMP server
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#2674 [21:02] <creeperGeneticist> Well, that's weird as hell. The noise is back now despite my not really having done anything as far as I can tell
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#2676 [21:03] <aetherian> wha...
#2677 [21:03] <aetherian> since when is hell weird?
#2678 [21:03] <Diablothein> FINALLY! A map I like!
#2679 [21:03] <Retro> Guys I need help...
#2680 [21:04] <Arkose> ask away :)
#2681 [21:04] <creeperGeneticist> Since Bosch, at the least
#2682 [21:04] <Retro> Basically, I just got the game for the first time. How do I use a workbench?
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#2684 [21:04] <Retro> I right-click it but it acts like I'm just trying to drag the item
#2685 [21:04] <Diablothein> You have to place it
#2686 [21:05] <Retro> where?
#2687 [21:05] <Elvang> Anywhere will do
#2688 [21:05] <Diablothein> Anywhere.
#2689 [21:05] <Retro> But how do I place it?
#2690 [21:05] <Diablothein> Have it in hand, right click on the ground that you're not standing on, it'll be placed.
#2691 [21:05] <Retro> Ohh thanks
#2692 [21:05] <Retro> Where do I find material for a torch?
#2693 [21:06] <Diablothein> Coal and stick
#2694 [21:06] <Diablothein> stick is crafted, coal is mined
#2695 [21:06] <Arkose> coal looks like this: a
#2696 [21:06] <Arkose> oops: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Coal_%28Ore%29
#2697 [21:06] <Elvang> Wood->Planks(2)->Stick
#2698 [21:06] <Elvang> You can get coal by burning wood too
#2699 [21:06] <Retro> Where do I find coal? And where do I get the iron for a pickaxe?
#2700 [21:06] <Ressolute> Yeah I cant find any iron either
#2701 [21:06] <Arkose> you can make a pickaxe out of all sorts of material. Any material will work for mining coal.
#2702 [21:07] <aetherian> retro, need a tutorial?
#2703 [21:07] <Arkose> you can find coal in caverns, or sometimes spot it exposed on cliffs and such
#2704 [21:07] <creeperGeneticist> You have to go down a pretty good ways to find iron, I think
#2705 [21:07] <aetherian> no, creeper
#2706 [21:08] <Ressolute> How far is a good ways?
#2707 [21:08] <Retro> Thanks so much
#2708 [21:08] <aetherian> you do not have to go down for iron
#2709 [21:08] <Retro> @Aetherian, I could use one yes
#2710 [21:08] <aetherian> !TUTORIAL
#2711 [21:08] <aetherian> ayway!
#2712 [21:08] <aetherian> what the
#2713 [21:09] <Retro> o-o ...
#2714 [21:09] <creeperGeneticist> Oh
#2715 [21:09] <Retro> Ideal rickroll moment... >.>
#2716 [21:09] <aetherian> lmao
#2717 [21:09] <aetherian> the bot's opped
#2718 [21:09] <aetherian> pretty trustworthy
#2719 [21:09] <Elvang> I swear coal veins are magically appearing in my main corridor
#2720 [21:09] <Arkose> heh
#2721 [21:10] <Retro> FFFFFFUUUUU Minecraft keeps crashing on me
#2722 [21:10] <Elvang> Walking down the path I've been using for the past few days and suddenly I spot a new coal vein :\
#2723 [21:10] <Retro> D_:
#2724 [21:10] <Retro> And I like this game </3
#2725 [21:10] <Ressolute> Whats a good way to mine deep?
#2726 [21:10] <Arkose> Retro: does it give you an error message?
#2727 [21:10] <Retro> This black type screen comes up and it says that something failed
#2728 [21:10] <Retro> then the screen goes black
#2729 [21:10] <Elvang> You can do a spiral down, or a 2 wide shaft down and use ladders
#2730 [21:10] <Retro> and it stops responding </33
#2731 [21:11] <aetherian> retro, it's not a problem of memory, is it?
#2732 [21:11] <Retro> Lemme check
#2733 [21:11] <Arkose> a diagonal also works well
#2734 [21:11] <Retro> Next time it does it I'll say something
#2735 [21:11] <Elvang> I like using ladders cause I can just jump onto it and slide to bedrock
#2736 [21:11] <Retro> Cuz I believe its a memory thing
#2737 [21:11] <Retro> Which is funny concidering the fact that I made a bunch of room for this game
#2738 [21:11] <aetherian> retro, how much RAM ya got
#2739 [21:11] <Arkose> if you put deep enough water at the bottom you can jump down to bedrock level and survive. :)
#2740 [21:11] <aetherian> wha-
#2741 [21:11] <aetherian> whozzat
#2742 [21:12] <Elvang> Yea
#2743 [21:12] <xales> aetherian
#2744 [21:12] <xales> you need to be in #minecraft more
#2745 [21:12] <aetherian> yes?
#2746 [21:12] <aetherian> no, no I do not
#2747 [21:12] <aetherian> I do not go in that channel.
#2748 [21:12] <Arkose> that's where the bannination fun is taking place
#2749 [21:12] <Retro> How do I check my RAM?
#2750 [21:13] <aetherian> uhhhh
#2751 [21:13] <aetherian> I don't know how to actually "check" it.
#2752 [21:13] <Retro> ._.
#2753 [21:13] <aetherian> look, I just memorized my ram, okay?
#2754 [21:14] <Elvang> What's your OS Retro?
#2755 [21:14] <Retro> Kay
#2756 [21:14] <Retro> Windows
#2757 [21:14] <Arkose> if you're on Windows, you can see how much RAM you have by opening the start menu, right clicking on Computer (My Computer on XP), an choosing Properties.
#2758 [21:14] <Retro> I JUST GOT THE MESSAGE
#2759 [21:14] <Retro> Memory64
#2760 [21:14] <Retro> failed
#2761 [21:14] <aetherian> how much ram do you have...
#2762 [21:14] <aetherian> herp
#2763 [21:14] <Retro> Idk >_<
#2764 [21:15] <Retro> My computer just fkn derpd on me
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#2766 [21:15] <aetherian> what os are you running
#2767 [21:15] <aetherian> windows?
#2768 [21:15] <Elvang> lol...
#2769 [21:15] <Retro> Vista
#2770 [21:16] <Retro> I have 2.00 GB of RAM
#2771 [21:16] <aetherian> mmk
#2772 [21:16] <aetherian> vista==virus, but apart from that, it's not that.
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#2774 [21:16] <Retro> >_>
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#2776 [21:17] <aetherian> it's true!
#2777 [21:17] <Retro> ANYways, besides PC and its shitty immunity
#2778 [21:17] <Arkose> so when you say it stops responding you mean just Minecraft, right, not the whole computer?
#2779 [21:18] <Retro> Just minecraft
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#2781 [21:19] <aetherian> does it BWOD?
#2782 [21:19] <Retro> If it...what?
#2783 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> black window of death
#2784 [21:19] <aetherian> ^^
#2785 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> Common minecraft problem
#2786 [21:20] <Retro> YERP
#2787 [21:20] <Retro> It does
#2788 [21:20] <aetherian> no error log, then
#2789 [21:20] <Retro> LIKE RIGHT NOW
#2790 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Easy on the caps
#2791 [21:20] <Retro> k
#2792 [21:20] <Retro> I'm sorry, this is just very frustrating.
#2793 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried updating java/your video drivers?
#2794 [21:21] <Retro> I did that to get the game to work
#2795 [21:21] <Retro> It wouldn't work for me in the begining
#2796 [21:21] <aetherian> wtf
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#2803 [21:22] <aetherian> holeee shet
#2804 [21:22] <Elvang> Eh
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#2806 [21:22] <Retro> Um...
#2807 [21:22] <aetherian> the hell's happening?
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#2812 [21:22] <aetherian> o.o.o.o.o
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#2817 [21:22] <aetherian> STAY IN HERE
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#2819 [21:23] <aetherian> i'm not losing you guys again ;_;
#2820 [21:23] <NinjaKirby> cam down, cam down
#2821 [21:23] <aetherian> the cricket died.
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#2823 [21:23] <aetherian> :'|
#2824 [21:23] <Retro> e_e
#2825 [21:24] <aetherian> anyone know what the hell just happened?
#2826 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> DCC exploit
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#2828 [21:24] <Retro> A wave
#2829 [21:24] * aetherian googles dcc exploit
#2829 [21:24] <Retro> So I get to enjoy minecraft for a good couple of minutes
#2830 [21:24] <aetherian> or should I use the wiki command ;p
#2831 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> No
#2832 [21:25] <aetherian> oh come off it, mate.
#2833 [21:25] <SkiingPenguins> umm
#2834 [21:25] <aetherian> so this is an mirc thing?
#2835 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2836 [21:25] <aetherian> figured not
#2837 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Some Routers and clients are vulnerable to it
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#2839 [21:25] <SkiingPenguins> like which?
#2840 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> I couldn't give you a complete list
#2841 [21:26] <SkiingPenguins> linksys?
#2842 [21:26] <relsqui> it's specific models, not brands
#2843 [21:26] <relsqui> you can probably google a list
#2844 [21:26] <Arkose> disabling DCC support in your IRC client should be sufficient regardless.
#2845 [21:26] <aetherian> that was kinda creepy...
#2846 [21:26] <SkiingPenguins> is dcc the same as ctcp?
#2847 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> No
#2848 [21:27] <SkiingPenguins> oh okay. my irc client is very simple
#2849 [21:27] <aetherian> what client?
#2850 [21:27] <Retro> Can you guys help me get rid of the black screen problem?
#2851 [21:27] <SkiingPenguins> aetherian nettalk
#2852 [21:27] <aetherian> hmm
#2853 [21:28] <Elvang> Geh, figured out the spot that was triggering the ambiance. Dug up from the spot I kept hearing it, and forgot I was right under the ocean. It was triggering everytime night fell :\
#2854 [21:29] <xales> \o/
#2855 [21:29] <xales> 21:29:04 Ignoring DCC from *
#2856 [21:29] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#2857 [21:29] <SkiingPenguins> * meaning wildcard?
#2858 [21:29] <xales> yes
#2859 [21:29] <SkiingPenguins> how can a wildcard send a dcc?
#2860 [21:29] <Retro> >_<
#2861 [21:30] <SkiingPenguins> Retro i have no idea how to fix it sorry
#2862 [21:30] <relsqui> wildcard in this case maening "anyone"
#2863 [21:30] <Retro> Ugh
#2864 [21:30] <SkiingPenguins> oh, thanks relsqui
#2865 [21:30] <aetherian> kinda like
#2866 [21:30] <aetherian> /mode +b *!*@*
#2867 [21:30] <aetherian> means everyone
#2868 [21:30] <Retro> I'm emailing notch. This is bullshit. I mean, I got this with my own money I wanna be able to enjoy it.
#2869 [21:30] <aetherian> fun with asterisks
#2870 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Be prepared to wait a few months for a reply
#2871 [21:30] <SkiingPenguins> heh
#2872 [21:31] * relsqui reads scrollback
#2872 [21:31] <Elvang> All your drivers are updated Retro?
#2873 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Retro - Have you tried deleting your .minecraft folder?
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#2875 [21:31] <Retro> No.
#2876 [21:31] <Retro> What will that do?
#2877 [21:31] <Arkose> it will reset the game to default settings and redownload everything
#2878 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Gets rid of all the local files needed to launch minecraft, if you delete it, and relaunch minecraft, it'll redownload everything
#2879 [21:32] <Arkose> which eliminates that as the possible cause of your problem
#2880 [21:32] <Elvang> Make sure you keep any worlds you want to save
#2881 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> If you're on windows, press your windows+R key, then in the run command, type in: %appdata%
#2882 [21:32] <aetherian> just deleting the bin would probably do it...
#2883 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Go find your .minecraft folder
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#2885 [21:32] <aetherian> brb
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#2887 [21:33] <Retro> Deleting nao..
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#2890 [21:34] <Retro> Now it just doesn't respond
#2891 [21:34] <Elvang> Are mine carts useful? From what I've read, it seems like they are only useful if you use boosters, and that those aren't even that effective in the latest version.
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#2899 [21:35] <BurningTHC> Hey me and my friends are running a server but how do you get /setwarp,/warp working
#2900 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> That's a mod command
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#2902 [21:35] <DopeGhoti> BurningTHC: by installing unsupported mods
#2903 [21:35] <BurningTHC> which ones?
#2904 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Try #bukkit for more info
#2905 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> and google "bukkit minecraft"
#2906 [21:35] <BurningTHC> I am using bukkit
#2907 [21:36] <DopeGhoti> Ask in the right place, then
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#2909 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, we don't provide support for bukkit here, try #bukkit
#2910 [21:36] <BurningTHC> Thanks for you help
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#2917 [21:40] <Arkose> Retro: where are you running Minecraft from?
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#2919 [21:41] <Arkose> i.e. what folder is it in?
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#2923 [21:43] <Retro> Well, so far I'm all right
#2924 [21:43] <Retro> Thx so much :D
#2925 [21:43] <Arkose> oh, it's working now? Cool.
#2926 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Good to hear
#2927 [21:43] <Retro> I'd really like to get started building houses and all
#2928 [21:43] <Retro> How do I make iron for a pickaxe?.
#2929 [21:44] <Elvang> You have iron ore?
#2930 [21:44] <Arkose> you don't need iron for starting purposes
#2931 [21:44] <Retro> Nope..
#2932 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to dig for iron ore, smelt it in your furnace to get iron ingots, then use that to craft
#2933 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting
#2934 [21:44] <Elvang> You can use wood and rock too
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#2942 [21:45] <Arkose> iron tools last longer and are required for mining some special block types, but otherwise stone tools will do the same job.
#2943 [21:45] <Arkose> I use stone most of the time to save the iron for other stuff.
#2944 [21:45] <Retro> Stone is just those gray blocks?
#2945 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Definitely
#2946 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#2950 [21:49] <Retro> They never seem to give me anything...
#2951 [21:49] <xales> You have to use a tool on them to get a resource from them
#2952 [21:49] <xales> !tutorial
#2953 [21:49] <Elmus> When I play on the downloaded minecraft every few minutes or so it freezes and the only thing saved is my inventory, can this be fixed?
#2954 [21:50] <xales> Elmus: Try turning down the view distance in Options
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#2957 [21:50] <Elmus> k, I'll try
#2958 [21:50] <Retro> What tool?
#2959 [21:51] <Retro> Those zombie noises are creepy...
#2960 [21:51] <Elvang> Use a pickaxe on stone, doesn't matter what quality pickaxe
#2961 [21:51] <relsqui> btw, if like me you dislike watching video for instruction, there's a good text beginner intro on the wiki
#2962 [21:52] <Arkose> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Beginner%27s_guide
#2963 [21:52] <relsqui> at's the one :)
#2964 [21:52] <relsqui> fun things to hear from a friend exploring elsewhere on the server: "I assumed that was a render error so I jumped in. it wasn't."
#2965 [21:52] <Arkose> haha
#2966 [21:52] <Retro> What is a render error?
#2967 [21:53] <DopeGhoti> Missing chunk?
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#2969 [21:53] <NashBridges> any one know of anygood smp servers, that are realy hard, with pvp?
#2970 [21:53] <Retro> Hey does black screen of death happen to any of you guys?
#2971 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Never.
#2972 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> But it's quite a frequent issue that comes up
#2973 [21:54] <Retro> xP
#2974 [21:54] <ArmEagle> Retro just the game or the whole system?
#2975 [21:54] <Retro> The game
#2976 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> BWoD is just the game
#2977 [21:54] <ArmEagle> oh yeah happens all the time
#2978 [21:54] <ArmEagle> well, i mean, regularly :)
#2979 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#2980 [21:55] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2981 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#2982 [21:55] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.581 Seconds.
#2983 [21:55] <Retro> Anyone got a good server IP?
#2984 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> http://mcserverlist.net/
#2985 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#2986 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> http://servers.minecraftforum.net/
#2987 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers
#2988 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> http://phonicuk.com/serverlist/
#2989 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Pick one :)
#2990 [21:55] <Retro> o.o
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#2993 [21:56] <Elmus> I changed my render distance from far to normal and it still happened, will lowering it even more stop this from happening?
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#2995 [21:57] <Elvang> How deep does the water need to be if I plan on dropping from 30+ z-levels?
#2996 [21:58] <Retro> Any tips on water breathing? Can I even do it?
#2997 [21:58] <Retro> Also, how do I type on multi...?
#2998 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> "T"
#2999 [21:58] <Arkose> press t
#3000 [21:58] <Arkose> then type and hit enter
#3001 [21:58] <Arkose> like IRC but more oldschool :)
#3002 [21:58] <ArmEagle> Elvang afaik 2 deep
#3003 [21:59] <Elvang> I'll test that out :)
#3004 [21:59] <ArmEagle> afaik 2 deep is always enough, 1 is quickly too little
#3005 [21:59] <Arkose> Retro: your breath is normally limited to the displayed bubbles, but certain things create air pockets underwater (ladders, doors, signs, etc.)
#3006 [22:00] <Elvang> I seem to have misplaced all my iron :\
#3007 [22:00] <Arkose> so you can slap one of those down to magically make some breathable air at the bottom of the ocean :)
#3008 [22:00] <Arkose> as soon as you touch air--however you get it--your bubbles refill totally
#3009 [22:01] <Auly> Hello all
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#3011 [22:01] <Arkose> hello :)
#3012 [22:01] <creeperGeneticist> Isn't it ironic when you lose your iron? *Bricked*
#3013 [22:01] <Arkose> haha
#3014 [22:02] <Arkose> I always save up iron for when I might need it for some future project. But then I end up having stacks and stacks of the stuff and still haven't used it. :P
#3015 [22:03] <Arkose> but I do the same sort of thing in any RPG or whatever where you can hoard items...
#3016 [22:03] <Auly> I'm looking for new ideas to eliminate packet loss/no block updates when connecting to a multiplayer server, Current test server is on a local network(other games have worked before to the same server).
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#3018 [22:04] <Elvang> :o
#3019 [22:04] <Elvang> Does minecraft autopause to save everynow and then?
#3020 [22:05] <creeperGeneticist> I think it pauses if you go to a different window automatically
#3021 [22:05] <Arkose> it saves any time the menu is opened, whether through Esc or window-switching
#3022 [22:05] <Elvang> Yea, it pauses then. Just open inventory/crafting/furnace to prevent it
#3023 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Nope, only if you had inventory pulled up before you switched a different window
#3024 [22:05] <aetherian> press "i" to- darn, elvang
#3025 [22:06] <Elvang> It paused on me and didn't let me go back to the game until autosaving was done
#3026 [22:06] <Auly> Things already tried= checked cabling, verified network connection, checked drivers, checked permissions, checked java versions, checked minecraft versions, does work in single player amongst many many other things.
#3027 [22:07] <Auly> I ask because currently I can't play at all with my roommates and friends.
#3028 [22:07] <Elvang> Checked firewall/antivirus/blocklists?
#3029 [22:08] <xales> Auly, the issue is with all servers, right?
#3030 [22:08] <Auly> yes
#3031 [22:08] <Auly> Hey Xales it's the same thing as before.
#3032 [22:08] <xales> Kealper
#3033 [22:08] <Kealper> rawr?
#3034 [22:08] <Elmus> When I play on the downloaded minecraft every few minutes or so it freezes and the only thing saved is my inventory (sorry to ask again) I have tried playing on short render distance, but it still happens
#3035 [22:08] <xales> Help Auly change NIC buffers
#3036 [22:08] <Auly> I tried compatibility settings.
#3037 [22:08] <Kealper> that name seems familiar
#3038 [22:08] <relsqui> quick question on someone else's behalf--are there known issues with the MC client on Windows 7 64?
#3039 [22:08] <Kealper> Auly: windows version?
#3040 [22:09] <Auly> Hello Kealper
#3041 [22:09] <Auly> windows 7 x64
#3042 [22:09] <Kealper> ello
#3043 [22:09] <xales> Elmus: What are the specs of your computer? RAM, GPU, CPU?
#3044 [22:09] <xales> relsqui: Nope
#3045 [22:09] <relsqui> heh what a coincidence
#3046 [22:09] <Auly> and you nd Xales helped me yesterday some since I've tried a few other things.
#3047 [22:09] <Kealper> Auly: give me about 30 sec, and i'll help
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#3049 [22:10] <Auly> ok
#3050 [22:11] <ItsCriminal> hi, is it normal that i see in the consol what people use to build something?
#3051 [22:11] <xales> you mean what they /give themselves?
#3052 [22:11] <Kealper> ok back, now.... Auly do you know how to open Device Manager?
#3053 [22:11] <Auly> yes
#3054 [22:11] <Kealper> open that, and go to Network adapters in the list
#3055 [22:11] <ItsCriminal> nio not that, if they use a Cobblestone i see that
#3056 [22:12] <Elmus> http://pastebin.com/U6kxjSE5
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#3058 [22:12] <Kealper> Auly: when you have that Network adapters drop-down open, double click your NIC you use to get on the internet and then tell me when it's open
#3059 [22:12] <Auly> ok I'm pretty good with computers Kealper just once in a while .. :(
#3060 [22:12] <Auly> done
#3061 [22:13] <Kealper> go to the Advanced tab on that properties window
#3062 [22:13] <Auly> .
#3063 [22:13] <Kealper> (it should have opened a properties window for the adapter when you double clicked it)
#3064 [22:13] <ItsCriminal> xales, i see just the Item name, and i saw just that a user, builded a wall with that cobblestone so my console got spammed full with that cobblestone :D
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#3066 [22:14] <Auly> (already there takes me less time then typing a reply. )
#3067 [22:14] <Kealper> oh lol, well then... in the Property: spot, do you see something called Recieve Buffers and something called Transmit Buffers?
#3068 [22:14] <Elmus> Did that work xales?
#3069 [22:14] * GreyVulpine hmms... and goes to flashing his linksys router to DD-WRT.
#3069 [22:14] <Auly> y
#3070 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Brb
#3071 [22:14] <Auly> er yes
#3072 [22:15] <Kealper> what are their values?
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#3074 [22:15] <Auly> R/T 512/128
#3075 [22:15] <xales> ItsCriminal: Are you using any mods?
#3076 [22:15] <ItsCriminal> i have bukkit on it
#3077 [22:15] <Kealper> Auly: can you set your tx one higher than 128?
#3078 [22:16] <Auly> doesn't want to let me
#3079 [22:16] <xales> Elmus: How often do you get the crashes?
#3080 [22:16] <Kealper> oh, 128 is it's max then, you can't change it higher :/
#3081 [22:16] <Elmus> it's random but at least every 2-5 minutes
#3082 [22:16] <Auly> True
#3083 [22:16] <xales> Any antivirus running, Elmus?
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#3085 [22:17] <ItsCriminal> should i ask in #bukkit, that would helo me more :D
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#3087 [22:17] <xales> ItsCriminal: yes
#3088 [22:17] <beef> does anyone have any experience setting up a classic minecraft server?
#3089 [22:17] <Elmus> I have Microsoft security essentials
#3090 [22:18] <xales> beef: Some do, yes
#3091 [22:18] <xales> Elmus: have you tried reinstalling java?
#3092 [22:18] <Elmus> I have
#3093 [22:18] <Auly> PS: If you want I've tried to post updates here as I worked. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=167554
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#3095 [22:19] <beef> I'm having trouble launching the server. When I run start sever.bat, it doesn't generate externalurl.txt
#3096 [22:19] * xales pokes Kealper
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#3097 [22:19] <Kealper> rawr?
#3098 [22:19] * xales points to what beef said
#3098 [22:20] <Kealper> uhh.....beef what is the .jar called?
#3099 [22:20] <beef> minecraft-server.jar
#3100 [22:20] <Kealper> O.o
#3101 [22:21] <Kealper> does it create all the other files?
#3102 [22:21] <beef> yes
#3103 [22:21] <Kealper> that's weird
#3104 [22:21] <beef> I've been scratching my head over it for the past few hours
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#3107 [22:22] <Kealper> i've got no idea......i've never had a classic server not generate that file O.o
#3108 [22:22] <Kealper> maybe it could not register with mc.net?
#3109 [22:22] <xales> firewall?
#3110 [22:22] <beef> I've tried it with the firewall disabled. Same problem
#3111 [22:22] <xales> can you otherwise connect to minecraft.net?
#3112 [22:22] <beef> yes.
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#3116 [22:26] <ItsCriminal> i really dont have a clue what that could,be ^^
#3117 [22:26] <beef> hmm. Okay. Thanks anyway though.
#3118 [22:28] <Elmus> any other suggestions for my issue xales?
#3119 [22:29] <izzd> is minecraft.net ok atm?
#3120 [22:29] <xales> Elmus: you tried reinstalling?
#3121 [22:29] <Elmus> both minecraft and java, yes
#3122 [22:30] <Auly> OS Elmus? ((sorry if you mentioned before))
#3123 [22:30] <Elmus> Vista
#3124 [22:30] <xales> Is Windows fully up to date?
#3125 [22:31] <Elmus> hmmmm, how would I check?
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#3127 [22:31] <xales> Control Panel -> Windows Updates
#3128 [22:31] <Auly> check the primary permissions to the folder containing the executable and make sure your not running it in any compatibility modes.
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#3130 [22:32] <Elmus> 6 optional updates, should i try that?
#3131 [22:32] <xales> yeah
#3132 [22:32] <tylersgame0399> I keep getting the "internal exception java.io.EOFexception" running a Beta Server on my own computer.. Anything obvious I am doing wrong?
#3133 [22:33] <xales> Is the server up to date?
#3134 [22:33] <tylersgame0399> It is the latest off of the minecraft site
#3135 [22:33] <xales> What IP are you using to connect to it?
#3136 [22:33] <Auly> Elmus check the optionals
#3137 [22:34] <tylersgame0399> Version beta 1.2_01
#3138 [22:34] <Auly> read the descriptions and make sure they aren't something you are not using and such. Like the latest version of silverlight or somesuch.
#3139 [22:34] <xales> Any mods on your client, or on the server?
#3140 [22:34] <Elmus> yeah, I'm downloading the optionals and then I'll check to see if its working
#3141 [22:34] <tylersgame0399> I am using my local lan ip of 192.168.1.3 which I have set to static xales
#3142 [22:35] <Auly> Tylersgame0399 verify you have the latest java version
#3143 [22:35] <Auly> Tylersgame0399 also might try a reinstall of java as that's what's generating that error code.
#3144 [22:35] <tylersgame0399> I did through java -version and have the latest
#3145 [22:36] <tylersgame0399> Ok. I might try to re-install java
#3146 [22:36] <tylersgame0399> I am running win7 64-bit if that is a general problem
#3147 [22:41] <Auly> I dunno honestly.
#3148 [22:42] <Auly> I recognize the java error as I've seen it before in other programs
#3149 [22:42] <Auly> there is a bunch of posts on it on the forums
#3150 [22:43] <Auly> so you can try searching http://www.minecraftforum.net/search.php?fid[]=17 with just"java.io.EOFexception" for minecraft or check one of the java forums.
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#3152 [22:50] <ItsCriminal> xales i found out what spammed my console full with all rightclick commands/items
#3153 [22:50] <ItsCriminal> it was the Plugin [TP] Sortal v3 - Sign base teleports and functionality [135]
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#3155 [22:54] <relsqui> I wish the domestic animals could be kept in permanent herds so I could just have a bunch of blue sheep
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#3157 [22:54] <tylersgame0399> I have since uninstalled java and reinstalled and it seems up for now..
#3158 [22:55] <tylersgame0399> whenever I log in and start the server do I need to op myself every time? or is there a way to auto-op myself
#3159 [22:55] <xales> Put your name in the ops.txt file
#3160 [22:56] <tylersgame0399> ok great thanks
#3161 [22:57] <tylersgame0399> Damn, just gave me the same error again..
#3162 [22:57] <tylersgame0399> I'll have to read some posts I guess
#3163 [22:57] <Auly> you can set that in one of the text files within the server folder
#3164 [22:58] <Auly> sorry I couldn't help more
#3165 [22:58] <tylersgame0399> no problem, I appreciate the responses from all
#3166 [23:04] <Elmus1> So I downloaded my 6 updates and theres still a problem
#3167 [23:06] <Kealper> Shadow of CruelNoise
#3168 [23:08] <Elmus1> any other suggestions?
#3169 [23:08] * xales pokes Kealper
#3169 [23:08] <xales> Kealper
#3170 [23:08] <xales> any ides about Elmus1's problem?
#3171 [23:09] <Kealper> uhh....what's the low-down?
#3172 [23:10] <Elmus1> random 2-5 minutes crashes with the dl version of minecraft.
#3173 [23:10] <Elmus1> tried reinstalling minecraft and java
#3174 [23:10] <Elmus1> updated my windows
#3175 [23:10] <Kealper> works fine in browser?
#3176 [23:10] <Kealper> what does it crash with?
#3177 [23:10] <Elmus1> yeah, but I don;t always have internet acess
#3178 [23:11] <Elmus1> what does it crash with?
#3179 [23:11] <Kealper> what error comes up when it crashes, sorry lol
#3180 [23:12] <Elmus1> there isn;t any, it just freezes and becomes unresponsive, so I have to open up the task manager an close it
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#3182 [23:12] <Kealper> O.o that's weird
#3183 [23:12] <Kealper> what are your computer's specs?
#3184 [23:12] <Elmus1> http://pastebin.com/U6kxjSE5
#3185 [23:12] <xales> Kealper, they are all fine
#3186 [23:12] <xales> oooooh, I might have an idea actually
#3187 [23:13] <xales> check hard disk health
#3188 [23:13] <Kealper> yeah, that might be it, becuase those specs are decent lol
#3189 [23:13] <Elmus1> how do i do that?
#3190 [23:13] <xales> err, Kealper
#3191 [23:13] <Kealper> uhh...
#3192 [23:13] <xales> the thing I use is massively out of date
#3193 [23:14] <xales> you know of any good ones?
#3194 [23:14] <Kealper> http://www.hdtune.com/download.html
#3195 [23:14] <Kealper> lets you view the disk's SMART stuff
#3196 [23:14] <xales> look at SMART stuff and benchmark
#3197 [23:14] <xales> and that was what I was talking about Kealper :(
#3198 [23:14] <Kealper> http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe <-- that one
#3199 [23:16] <Elmus1> k, so it's running, what am I looking for?
#3200 [23:16] <xales> click SMART status
#3201 [23:16] <xales> or just SMART
#3202 [23:16] <xales> and take a screenshot of that, if possible
#3203 [23:16] <xales> (make it fullscreen first)
#3204 [23:19] <Elmus1> So i see smart under the supported features but nowhere else
#3205 [23:19] <xales> go to benchmark then
#3206 [23:19] <xales> and run a benchmark
#3207 [23:20] <Elmus1> ah ok, I did that, but It won't let me fullscreen it
#3208 [23:21] <xales> oh, don't worry, and don't bother screenshotting that
#3209 [23:22] <xales> what is the average I/O rate, and are there any big drops in the graph?
#3210 [23:24] <Elmus1> I don't see anything I/O but there is a couple of big drops going from 30 to 15 ms
#3211 [23:25] <DevilBlade> Could some one help me with some connection issues?
#3212 [23:26] <xales> DevilBlade: sure
#3213 [23:26] <xales> Elmus1: oh wow...
#3214 [23:26] <xales> Elmus1: how old is the computer?
#3215 [23:27] <Elmus1> the computer like 4 years old, but the hard drive isn't even a half a year old
#3216 [23:27] <xales> is it an IDE drive?
#3217 [23:27] <Elmus1> no Idea, how can I find out
#3218 [23:28] * xales hits Kealper with a cattleprod
#3218 [23:28] <DevilBlade> Ok im running a Server on one of my desktop i have been tell recently no one but me on the loop back address has been able to connect im sure that i have all the ports forwarded it has worked up until a week ago
#3219 [23:28] <Elvang> Did you install the harddrive yourself?
#3220 [23:28] <Elmus1> no
#3221 [23:28] <xales> DevilBlade: Re-do the port forward, your IP may have changed
#3222 [23:28] <Kealper> RAWR!?
#3223 [23:28] <Kealper> that burned :<
#3224 [23:28] <xales> Kealper: 23:24:13 < Elmus1> I don't see anything I/O but there is a couple of big drops going from 30 to 15 ms
#3225 [23:29] <DevilBlade> it is set to my Mac address
#3226 [23:29] <Kealper> uhh...if that's on what i think it is, lower is better
#3227 [23:29] <xales> DevilBlade: Did your external address change?
#3228 [23:29] <Kealper> DevilBlade: your MAC address is not used for serving stuff?
#3229 [23:29] <xales> Kealper: m/s = mb/s IIRC
#3230 [23:30] <Kealper> oh, i thought that was talking about hdd access time
#3231 [23:30] <xales> Elmus1: actually, can you get a screenshot of the graph window?
#3232 [23:30] <DevilBlade> my external ip address hasn't changed i checked it
#3233 [23:31] <Elmus1> how can i send it over?
#3234 [23:31] <xales> What error o people get when they connect?
#3235 [23:31] <xales> Elmus1: Use http://imgur.com/
#3236 [23:31] <DevilBlade> connection refused
#3237 [23:32] <xales> do you have a firewall running?
#3238 [23:32] <DevilBlade> No they are turned off atm
#3239 [23:33] <xales> Do you have anything on the server-ip= line in server.properties?
#3240 [23:33] <DevilBlade> No
#3241 [23:33] <Elmus1> <img src="http://i.imgur.com/uSjzN.jpg" alt="" title="Hosted by imgur.com" />
#3242 [23:33] <Elmus1> ah, sec
#3243 [23:34] <Kealper> that
#3244 [23:34] <Kealper> that'll work
#3245 [23:34] <xales> Can you remove the port-forward, and re-add it for me, just to check, DevilBlade?
#3246 [23:34] <DevilBlade> ok
#3247 [23:34] <Elmus1> oh, ok
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#3249 [23:34] <Kealper> that looks fairly normal :/
#3250 [23:34] <xales> Elmus1: Can you go to the 'health' tab and screenshot that too?
#3251 [23:34] <Elmus1> k
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#3254 [23:36] <DJCharlie> Evening all. Anyone have a solution for the "EXCEPTION_STACK_OVERFLOW" error yet?
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#3256 [23:37] <xales> DJCharlie: Can you pastebin the full error?
#3257 [23:37] <xales> http://pastebin.com/
#3258 [23:37] <lemon-rev> djcharlie when are you getting it, and is it muliplayer ?
#3259 [23:38] <Elmus1> http://i.imgur.com/uIYgu.jpg
#3260 [23:38] <DJCharlie> http://pastebin.com/mDtJn3jg
#3261 [23:38] <Kealper> Elmus1: hdd is fine :/
#3262 [23:38] <DJCharlie> lemon-rev: Soon as I launch. Not even a chance to choose single or multiplayer.
#3263 [23:38] <Kealper> reinstall windows! that fixes everything!
#3264 [23:38] <Kealper> (jk)
#3265 [23:39] <DJCharlie> In fact... http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=170458
#3266 [23:39] <DJCharlie> Kealper: Actually, this is a fresh install.
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#3268 [23:39] <Kealper> that was directed at Elmus1 but it was more of a joke so it could go to either of you lol
#3269 [23:39] <lemon-rev> what os
#3270 [23:39] <xales> DJCharlie: Did you update your graphics card drivers?
#3271 [23:39] <DJCharlie> I've noticed quite a few people get that error, but there's never an answer on how to fix it.
#3272 [23:40] <DJCharlie> xales: Yes. Fully up to date on that and Java.
#3273 [23:40] <DJCharlie> lemon-rev: XP
#3274 [23:40] <xales> What graphics card is it?
#3275 [23:40] <DJCharlie> GeForce 6150SE
#3276 [23:40] <Kealper> DJCharlie: reinstall your graphics drivers from http://nvidia.com
#3277 [23:40] <Kealper> oh god that thing
#3278 [23:40] <DJCharlie> Kealper: scroll up. I've done that.
#3279 [23:41] <Kealper> oh
#3280 [23:41] <Kealper> has it ever worked for you? because a 6150SE is an onboard peice of crap
#3281 [23:41] <DJCharlie> Kealper: Never.
#3282 [23:41] <DJCharlie> Even the browser version doesn't work.
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#3284 [23:42] <Kealper> my parents' computer has one of those 6150SEs and it would hardly run anything :/
#3285 [23:42] <DJCharlie> Tried it on my second system with a 7950GT. Same result.
#3286 [23:42] <Kealper> ok that is weird then :/
#3287 [23:42] <xales> is it the same exact error, DJCharlie?
#3288 [23:42] <Kealper> you've reinstalled minecraft?
#3289 [23:43] <DJCharlie> xales: Yes, identical.
#3290 [23:43] <DJCharlie> Kealper: Several times.
#3291 [23:43] <xales> DJCharlie: Can you pastebin the error from the other computer as well?
#3292 [23:43] <Kealper> hmmmm.....
#3293 [23:43] <xales> I want to see if the offsets are all the same
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#3295 [23:44] <DJCharlie> xales: Just a sec.
#3296 [23:45] <Auly> eh.. I'm headin to bed.
#3297 [23:45] <Auly> night all
#3298 [23:45] <Auly> will try more things to get my system working tomorrow.
#3299 [23:45] <Auly> including I think building a new local server.
#3300 [23:49] <DJCharlie> xales: http://pastebin.com/WW8PXLhF
#3301 [23:50] <Elmus1> well thanks for trying guys, I just have to suck it up i guess
#3302 [23:50] <DJCharlie> Also, just tried it on my wife's system, and it runs, saying "OpenGL 1.1"
#3303 [23:51] <xales> DJCharlie: Try reinstalling the driver
#3304 [23:51] <xales> but get it from the computer manufacturer
#3305 [23:51] <xales> (dell, etc)
#3306 [23:53] <DJCharlie> xales: Which driver? And it's a custom built system.
#3307 [23:53] <xales> huh
#3308 [23:53] <xales> do other 3D applications work with it?
#3309 [23:54] <DJCharlie> xales: City of Heroes works perfectly. Even Ultra Mode.
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