#1 [00:00] <Sinnersaix> qeustion, is there a way to make a minecart starter wihtout obsidian?
#2 [00:01] <relsqui> I was just talking to someone about minecart starters
#3 [00:01] <relsqui> how do you make one WITH obsidian?
#4 [00:02] <Sinnersaix> connect it with redstone to a switch
#5 [00:02] <Sinnersaix> the problem is on the s-n freebuid is i cannot plaace obsi
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#7 [00:03] <DJCharlie> xales: Any other ideas?
#8 [00:03] <DevilBlade> Well my internet died
#9 [00:04] <xales> DJCharlie: Double check you have the correct driver installed I guess, but otherwise, I have no idea. The error itself is occuring within the driver.
#10 [00:05] <DJCharlie> xales: Ok, I'll try reinstalling again.
#11 [00:07] <DopeGhoti> (mmm, City of Heroes)
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#13 [00:08] <DevilBlade> Well my connection issues are still happening after factory reset router and updated it to new firm ware and redid all port forwarding
#14 [00:09] <xales> still "connection refused"?
#15 [00:09] <DevilBlade> ya
#16 [00:09] <Kealper> does Qt work on Android devices?
#17 [00:10] <xales> and you are sure no firewalls are running, including Windows Firewall, DevilBlade?
#18 [00:10] <DevilBlade> Ya Windows firewall is disabled
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#20 [00:10] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: http://qt.gitorious.org/~taipan/qt-mobility/android-qt-mobility
#21 [00:11] <DevilBlade> Do you think my modem might be the issue it has been having problems
#22 [00:11] <Kealper> danke sehr, dope
#23 [00:11] <DopeGhoti> Bitte schoen.
#24 [00:12] <xales> DevilBlade: Possibly
#25 [00:13] <DevilBlade> My isp wont let customers replace any of the equipment they provide so i have to wait for one of there techs to get out here to replace it
#26 [00:13] <DopeGhoti> Good lord. What ISP is this?
#27 [00:13] <Kealper> o.o
#28 [00:14] <DevilBlade> Cunningham
#29 [00:15] <DevilBlade> they also think my 300ms ping is normal
#30 [00:15] <Kealper> what type of internet is it? cable? dsl?
#31 [00:15] <Kealper> because even dsl should only be getting like 150ms pings :/
#32 [00:15] <DopeGhoti> Where are you; Belgistan?
#33 [00:15] <DevilBlade> Cable
#34 [00:15] <Kealper> xD
#35 [00:15] <Kealper> wow
#36 [00:15] <DevilBlade> no worse Kansas
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#38 [00:16] <Kealper> that isp is garbage.....i got 300ms pings back on aol -.-
#39 [00:16] <DopeGhoti> By Cable, do you mean twine suspended between tin cans?
#40 [00:16] <DopeGhoti> I got 250 mx pings on _dial-up_.
#41 [00:16] <DopeGhoti> You poor soul.
#42 [00:17] <xales> DopeGhoti: You missed all the fun in #minecraft :o
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#44 [00:18] <DJCharlie> xales: No joy, same result.
#45 [00:18] <DevilBlade> Well thank you for the help
#46 [00:18] <Kealper> some angry scriptkiddie was in there :/
#47 [00:18] <DopeGhoti> xales: There is such a thing?
#48 [00:18] <DopeGhoti> ah
#49 [00:18] <DopeGhoti> if it's entertaining enough, I enjoy logs (:
#50 [00:18] <statik> It was almost exciteing.
#51 [00:18] <xales> DopeGhoti: join/part spam, then DCC exploit, with akill evading
#52 [00:18] <Kealper> he was at his university, i was going to report it to his uni but i got bored of that just before opening Thunderbird
#53 [00:19] <DopeGhoti> People still use mail clients?
#54 [00:19] <statik> Not I, siad the fish
#55 [00:19] <Kealper> heck yeah, i like that more than just going to gmail lol
#56 [00:19] <statik> said*
#57 [00:20] <Kealper> i just have that running minimized, and i instantly know when i have an email :O
#58 [00:20] <DJCharlie> DopeGhoti: I do. 17 email accounts.
#59 [00:20] <xales> DJCharlie: No idea then, sorry =\
#60 [00:20] <Kealper> all my different email accounts just forward to my main one lol
#61 [00:20] <DJCharlie> xales: Should I request a refund then?
#62 [00:21] <xales> DJCharlie: It's up to you, but I think the game is worth it, and to keep it until you upgrade to a newer computer that it should work fine on
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#64 [00:21] <DevilBlade> refund for what?
#65 [00:22] <DJCharlie> DevilBlade: The game refuses to run on my system.
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#67 [00:22] <DJCharlie> xales: Highly unlikely I'll be upgrading anytime soon. And btw, that's not exactly friendly advice.
#68 [00:22] <DopeGhoti> Did you try asking nicely, and using the magic word?
#69 [00:22] <KillSpammer> :O
#70 [00:23] <KillSpammer> The magic word...
#71 [00:23] <KillSpammer> IS pickle
#72 [00:23] <DevilBlade> You running Windows?
#73 [00:23] <DJCharlie> DevilBlade: Here's full details - http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=170458
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#75 [00:25] <DevilBlade> DJ that crash report says your running Service pack 2 for windows try updating to the newest version of windows
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#77 [00:26] <DJCharlie> DevilBlade: I'm on XP. You're not suggesting moving to 7 are you?
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#79 [00:26] <DopeGhoti> DJCharlie: XP Service Pack 3 paerhaps?
#80 [00:26] <DopeGhoti> perhaps, even
#81 [00:27] <Kealper> pearhaps
#82 [00:27] <DopeGhoti> Also.. have you tried reinstalling the binaries? (Not the .exe)
#83 [00:27] <DevilBlade> no Windows xp current version is service pack 3 it has lots of updates between what your running Service pack 2
#84 [00:27] * GreyVulpine stabs DD-WRT in the face
#84 [00:27] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: can't get it working?
#85 [00:27] <lemon-rev> i think its hes video , im running xp with sp 3 and it runs bloody wonderfull
#86 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> That took longer than it should've
#87 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Finally got it working
#88 [00:27] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: Try tomato?
#89 [00:27] <DopeGhoti> say ah
#90 [00:27] <DJCharlie> DopeGhoti, DevilBlade, That's a much better solution. Thank you.
#91 [00:27] <DopeGhoti> s/say //
#92 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#93 [00:27] <Kealper> doooope....
#94 [00:27] <DopeGhoti> Keeealpe
#95 [00:28] <Kealper> have you been talking in your server console again?
#96 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> But I want to stab DD-WRT's interface for being stupid about stuff
#97 [00:28] <DopeGhoti> Maybe.
#98 [00:28] <Kealper> lol
#99 [00:28] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: Of _course_ the DDWRT interface is annoying. It's a clone of the Linksys interface
#100 [00:28] <DopeGhoti> that's why you SSH into it.
#101 [00:28] <DevilBlade> i <3 DD-WRT
#102 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> Bah, no, it's not a clone...
#103 [00:28] <Kealper> grey enable icmp echo responses on your router so i can ping you
#104 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> The "save" and "apply changes" mean two different things
#105 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> No
#106 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> Never
#107 [00:29] <DopeGhoti> A mutated, shambing clone, but a clone nonetheless
#108 [00:29] <Kealper> just for four echos? lol
#109 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, no!
#110 [00:29] * relsqui blinks
#110 [00:29] <relsqui> you just reminded me to play echo bazaar -_-
#111 [00:29] <Kealper> :<
#112 [00:29] * GreyVulpine stabs Kealper with 65535 byte ICMP packets
#112 [00:29] * KillSpammer stabs GreyVulpine with Kealper
#112 [00:30] * Kealper has been disconnected from the server [Reason: Connection reset by peer]
#112 [00:30] * DopeGhoti stabs a knife with GreyVulpine, Kealper, and KillSpammer.
#112 [00:30] <KillSpammer> You killed him
#113 [00:30] <Kealper> that poor knife
#114 [00:30] <KillSpammer> Lol DopeGhoti
#115 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Alrighty, my computer is now only doubly-NATed, instead of triply.
#116 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> So I guess that's a plus for DD-WRT
#117 [00:30] <DopeGhoti> ..yay?
#118 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> DD-WRT's repeater option is a mess
#119 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Can't make it work
#120 [00:30] <KillSpammer> You have confused me.
#121 [00:31] <Kealper> what is with all the multiple NATs that everyone has? lol
#122 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> My setup...
#123 [00:31] <KillSpammer> I"m so dumb, i suck with scientific caluclators
#124 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Modem -> Linksys router -> wireless to laptop -> Lan to second Linksys router -> my computer
#125 [00:31] <KillSpammer> I still don't know how to use the and or xnor and shit on it
#126 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> 3 NATs
#127 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> I've flattened it a bit to just Modem -> Linksys Router -> linksys router -> my computer
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#129 [00:32] <Kealper> i just have the modem which is just a modem, my wireless router, then a boatload of switches lol
#130 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#131 [00:32] <Llevel> How can I go about setting boundaries on where users can go on my server?
#132 [00:32] <Kealper> mods
#133 [00:32] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: you might be able to do single-NAT if you can put the second DDWRT into bridge mode.
#134 [00:32] <Llevel> Obviously, do you know of any?
#135 [00:32] <DopeGhoti> (or WAP mode)
#136 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - I tried
#137 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> It didn't want to work
#138 [00:33] <Kealper> used to be one called Borderlands, but i'm not sure if that works with Bukkit
#139 [00:33] <DopeGhoti> Tomato.
#140 [00:33] <KillSpammer> Llevel cuboid?
#141 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> I tried repeater bridge, and client bridge, neither of them worked.
#142 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> I had to just use "client"
#143 [00:33] <DopeGhoti> Damn you , Linksys and your s[bleep]tty firmware.
#144 [00:33] <Llevel> Is that a bukkit mod KillSpammer?
#145 [00:33] <KillSpammer> No idea
#146 [00:33] <KillSpammer> Havn't done muchw ith bukkit yet
#147 [00:34] <Diablothein> http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/392160/black-eyed-peas-vs-tron-a-super-bowl-contest-no-one-wins/
#148 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> It works now, and my internet won't shut off whenever my laptop decides to turn itself off at random
#149 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> So Blarg at DD-WRT for being overly complex and stupid, but it works.
#150 [00:34] <KillSpammer> My Lan adapter keeps failing everytime i use around 200kbps+
#151 [00:35] <Kealper> that's not much
#152 [00:35] <DevilBlade> DD-WRT is Linux its supposed to be overly complex
#153 [00:36] <Kealper> grey ssh/telnet in to your router and do a help...what commands do you have on yours?
#154 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> ?
#155 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> bah, I'll have to dig up my copy of putty here...
#156 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> or screw it
#157 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> +google
#158 [00:37] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine has activated the AdvancedGoogle script for #MineCraftHelp .
#159 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> !google putty
#160 [00:37] <GreyBot>  May 17, 2010 ... An open source telnet and SSH Client for the Windows and Unix platforms. Includes FAQ, documentation and contact information. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
#161 [00:37] <GreyBot>  May 17, 2010 ... LEGAL WARNING: Use of PuTTY, PSCP, PSFTP and Plink is ... http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
#162 [00:37] <GreyBot>  Download PuTTY - a free SSH and telnet client for Windows http://www.putty.org/
#163 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> -google
#164 [00:37] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine has deactivated the AdvancedGoogle script for #MineCraftHelp .
#165 [00:37] <Kealper> because i'm running the micro release of it because my router sucks...and i want to know if the normal one has any more commands, because mine is half useless :/
#166 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> I'm running micro as well
#167 [00:37] <Kealper> oh...poopy
#168 [00:37] <KillSpammer> Holy crap
#169 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> And it's not letting me SSH into it
#170 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> Is there a setting...
#171 [00:38] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: that was quicker than alt-tab,ctrl-L, ?PuTTY, enter ?
#172 [00:38] <Kealper> it has ssh disabled by default, use telnet
#173 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> Yes DopeGhoti
#174 [00:38] <Kealper> lol
#175 [00:38] <DopeGhoti> Wait, telnet enabled by default? Note to self: Never install DD-WRT.
#176 [00:39] <DopeGhoti> (I don't _care_ if it's LANside only)
#177 [00:39] <Kealper> it does not work outside lan
#178 [00:39] * DopeGhoti points up
#178 [00:39] <Kealper> yea i type slow lol
#179 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> Is there a default user/pass?
#180 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> Not letting me in
#181 [00:40] <Kealper> root and the pass is your router pass that you set
#182 [00:40] <Kealper> but it's half useless...you can't screw anything up with telnet :/
#183 [00:40] <Kealper> mostly just there for debugging stuff i think
#184 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> . : [ alias bg break cd chdir command continue eval exec exit
#185 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> export false fg getopts hash help jobs kill let local pwd read
#186 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> readonly return set shift source test times trap true type ulimit
#187 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> umask unalias unset wait
#188 [00:42] <Kealper> yeah mine is the same :/
#189 [00:43] <Kealper> it'd be awesome to be able to compile irssi and run it on my router lol
#190 [00:43] <statik> Install apt or yum to the router see if you can install something.:D
#191 [00:43] <Kealper> they don't really have enough space/ram to do that though lol
#192 [00:44] <statik> True, It would be cool to get IRC on the router though.
#193 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> I've got a WRT54G2, Ver1 router
#194 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> They have 16 megs of ram on it, and 2 of flash
#195 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> You're NOT going to be fitting anything else on it
#196 [00:44] <Kealper> 16? lucky
#197 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> I'm already taking up 13 out of that 16 with DD-WRT
#198 [00:45] <KillSpammer> Hrm...
#199 [00:45] <Kealper> i've got the one of two versions that is ultraborked with 8mb of ram
#200 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> Oh yikes
#201 [00:45] <KillSpammer> Should i setup some shit to connect too at school?
#202 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry...
#203 [00:45] <statik> Nite all.
#204 [00:46] <Kealper> i can't run the normal dd-wrt, it has to be the micro version, and i can't set my active ip table up to ultra-awesome or i run out of ram and crash it
#205 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#206 [00:46] <Elvang> Are caves normally big enough to easily get lost in?
#207 [00:46] <Kealper> usually
#208 [00:46] <xales> Kealper, just get a tinsy linux box with 2 NICs and use that as a router
#209 [00:46] <xales> an old computer or some such thing
#210 [00:47] <Kealper> i've got an old computer
#211 [00:47] <Kealper> just need another nic
#212 [00:47] <Elvang> Any tips on navigating caves?
#213 [00:47] <Kealper> a 1.3ghz gen 1 celeron...with 384mb of pc133 lol
#214 [00:47] <xales> Kealper: >.>
#215 [00:48] <xales> Elvang: Not really, develop a system of some sort (torches always on a certain side, is a possibility)
#216 [00:48] <Elvang> Geh, too late for that one
#217 [00:48] <Kealper> the video card i've got in it would make a better computer than the computer it serves XD
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#219 [00:51] <Kealper> hmm...what's a nix distro that would run good on that computer...
#220 [00:51] <xales> none of the above
#221 [00:51] <Kealper> Puppy might do fine
#222 [00:52] <Kealper> i had that on my laptop before...and it has a 700mhz P3 with 256mb of pc100
#223 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Woo! PC100!
#224 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Ultra-fast RAM, that is
#225 [00:54] <Kealper> oh yeah!
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#227 [00:55] <Elvang> Is there a server list that lets you sort by type?
#228 [00:55] <Kealper> the stick itself is 133, but the mobo only supports 100 so that's what it runs at
#229 [00:55] <Kealper> http://mcserverlist.net
#230 [00:55] <Elvang> Oooh, thanks
#231 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Bah, okay then, time to relieve some tension by killing a few hundred zombies...
#232 [00:57] <Kealper> what game? l4d2 or kf?
#233 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Having the threat of bricking my router, looking through several DD-WRT firmware revisions.
#234 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> KF
#235 [00:57] <Kealper> bah
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#237 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> I'd be happy to play L4D2, if I could ever find a good team
#238 [00:58] <xales> &
#239 [00:58] <xales> ^*
#240 [00:58] <Kealper> i could drag myself out of bed, but we would still be down 2 people lol
#241 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. and I have having L4D2 play the two bots
#242 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> Always die..
#243 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> s/have/hate
#244 [00:59] <Kealper> lol
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#246 [01:08] <ItsCriminal> well i think 10players and all have 10x 64TNT's will not help the clients and the server ^^
#247 [01:08] <ItsCriminal> it made boom and yeah you know the rest ^^
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#250 [01:23] <Kealper> rawr?
#251 [01:24] <Kealper> i love how aubot does that lol
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#259 [01:37] <Kealper> shit, it's still on apocalypse, it must have DCed before i saved the config :/
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#262 [01:38] <Kealper> !rehash
#263 [01:38] <xales> !boot
#264 [01:38] <xales> !boom*
#265 [01:38] <Kealper> lol
#266 [01:38] <xales> .boom
#267 [01:38] <xales> .deop Kealper
#268 [01:38] <xales> >.>
#269 [01:38] <Kealper> it'd be .auth Kealper 0
#270 [01:39] <xales> lol
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#272 [01:40] <xales> duh
#273 [01:40] <OODavo> Can AuBot kick now?
#274 [01:40] <Kealper> shit
#275 [01:40] <xales> also, fail
#276 [01:40] <Kealper> apocalypse is all sorts of fail right now
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#278 [01:41] <Kealper> oh well, it's on eldridge now
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#280 [01:41] <Mizuhana> Hello? I'm looking for some help for a friend.
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#282 [01:41] <DevilBlade> Help with what?
#283 [01:41] <Kealper> this'd be the place
#284 [01:42] <Kealper> !kick AuBot
#285 [01:42] <xales> Kealper, two?!?
#286 [01:42] <Mizuhana> Apparently OpenGL keeps crashing on his machine.
#287 [01:42] <Kealper> ghost has not timed out yet
#288 [01:42] <xales> oh
#289 [01:42] <Kealper> gotta love that
#290 [01:42] <Mizuhana> Is there any way to switch Minecraft's rendering?
#291 [01:42] <xales> Unfortuantely not - though we may be able to find why it is crashing
#292 [01:42] <Kealper> automatically changes it's nick back when the ghost DCes, then auto idents lol
#293 [01:43] <Mizuhana> Okay, I'm going to bring him over here.
#294 [01:43] <xales> Kealper, make it use GHOST
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#298 [01:44] <Kealper> the bot module can, but i have that commented out and i just let the core play the waiting game
#299 [01:44] <xales> >.>
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#301 [01:55] <dr_bibble> anyone there?
#302 [01:56] <xales> yes
#303 [01:57] <dr_bibble> ok i have a problem: i teleported to the nether for the first time. i forgot to bring flint, i don't have obsidian to make another portal, the portal i came out of got extinguished, i ran around, got lost, realized the portal could be reignited by a ghast but it doesn't matter because i'm lost
#304 [01:57] <dr_bibble> what are my options on getting out, if any?
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#306 [01:59] <xales> death
#307 [01:59] <dr_bibble> i'll respawn at the normal spawn point?
#308 [02:01] <dr_bibble> nvm i checked, thanks
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#315 [02:11] <ZigfriedWolf> so minecraft keeps freezing on me. no idea why. i tried to check my java to make sure i had the latest version, but when i tried, firefox froze. any suggestion?
#316 [02:11] <xales> What are the specs of your computer?
#317 [02:13] <ZigfriedWolf> win 7 i3-330 4gb ddr3 ram, no dedicated graphics card
#318 [02:13] <xales> any antivirus software running?
#319 [02:13] <ZigfriedWolf> avast
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#321 [02:13] <xales> strange...
#322 [02:14] <xales> try going to this
#323 [02:14] <xales> www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
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#325 [02:15] <ZigfriedWolf> well that froze firefox
#326 [02:15] <ZigfriedWolf> lol
#327 [02:18] <xales> Try reinstalling java
#328 [02:19] <ZigfriedWolf> tried, but when i get to the java site firefox freezes
#329 [02:20] <xales> is the computer new?
#330 [02:20] <ZigfriedWolf> bout a year old, however i ahve a registry cleaning program, and i just reformatted everything because i put a new hard drive in recently
#331 [02:25] <ItsCriminal> i cant start minecraft anymore -.
#332 [02:26] <ItsCriminal> i try it an other time again to tired 8:26am -.-
#333 [02:27] <xales> ZigfriedWolf: I'd try asking on a Java forum or some such thing, I have no idea why Java would do that :(
#334 [02:27] <ZigfriedWolf> yeah no idea either
#335 [02:28] <ZigfriedWolf> at the moment tho, minecraft is running in a state i can tolerate. im building a new computer in the next few days, so if the problem persists ill let you know
#336 [02:28] <xales> ok
#337 [02:31] <ZigfriedWolf> thanks for the help
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#342 [02:49] <grentew> is there a multi pplayer server that helps show others what to build water traps and the like or is that mainly you tube for that advice :P?
#343 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Youtube
#344 [02:51] <grentew> ok
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#346 [02:53] <the_late_man> o.o
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#349 [03:05] <the_late_man> night
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#352 [03:14] <Kealper> hmm...i need to trim some fat on my channel list
#353 [03:14] <Kealper> i'm at alt+q without any queries :/
#354 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Hah
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#360 [03:28] <KillSpammer> Heya.
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#366 [03:47] <darkpara> hi
#367 [03:47] <darkpara> i have just a question. i set up a minecraft beta server at home, on a i7 (1.9ghz) 8gb ram, i have a 20mb /2mb internet acces, now sometimes i have laggs (with about 4-5 player playing on the server) do you think the hardware/internet conection is to slow?, the lags are very crasy about 20seconds delay in chat
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#369 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, any background processes running at the same time? Antivirus? Defragmenter?
#370 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> Anything using your NIC as well?
#371 [03:50] <darkpara> nop
#372 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> Network congestion? What else is running on that network?
#373 [03:50] <darkpara> if i open the task manager, i see that the processes are all about at 60%
#374 [03:50] <darkpara> and i have inoff ramspace free
#375 [03:51] <darkpara> hm skype is running in the same
#376 [03:51] <GreyVulpine> Okay, so the server isn't overloaded in terms of CPU/RAM then?
#377 [03:51] <darkpara> i dont think so
#378 [03:51] <GreyVulpine> Are you running any other servers?
#379 [03:51] <darkpara> nop
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#381 [03:52] <darkpara> brb (telephone 5minuets )
#382 [03:52] <GreyVulpine> Are you playing minecraft on the same computer as the server?
#383 [03:53] <fogWraith> 0.5 * 5 players = more than 2mbit upload
#384 [03:53] <fogWraith> Most of the time, you won't get the full 2mbit either, so you may be under
#385 [03:53] <fogWraith> Which, may cause lag
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#388 [04:06] <Szernex> !server
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#390 [04:13] <darkpara> sorry re
#391 [04:13] <darkpara> im playing in the same LAN but with a other computer
#392 [04:15] <darkpara> hm k then i think its my internet, if per player i need 0.5
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#396 [04:24] <Kealper> this sucks....i accidentally typed !die earlier and ruined my bot's epic uptime :<
#397 [04:26] <darkpara> anyone know some good and cheap dedicated server hosters or minecraft server hosters? (if possible in europe)
#398 [04:26] <darkpara> its for a bout 5-7 players
#399 [04:30] <KillSpammer> I luv solid state drives.
#400 [04:30] <KillSpammer> !die
#401 [04:30] <Kealper> uhh....
#402 [04:30] <KillSpammer> !pleasedie
#403 [04:30] <KillSpammer> :(
#404 [04:30] <KillSpammer> This bot sucks!
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#406 [04:30] <Kealper> no, it's just made correctly :P
#407 [04:30] <KillSpammer> GreyBot sucks
#408 [04:30] <KillSpammer> :(
#409 [04:30] <KillSpammer> !evil
#410 [04:30] <GreyBot> If I ever became an evil overlord, number 34. I will not turn into a snake. It never helps.
#411 [04:30] <KillSpammer> !evil
#412 [04:30] <GreyBot> If I ever became an evil overlord, number 209. I will not, under any circumstances, marry a woman I know to be a faithless, conniving, back-stabbing witch simply because I am absolutely desperate to perpetuate my family line. Of course, we can still date.
#413 [04:31] <KillSpammer> I'm stopin now :P
#414 [04:31] <Kealper> eventually i've gotta get grey to aop that thing....
#415 [04:31] <KillSpammer> Trololol, lady on news said a word twice.
#416 [04:32] <KillSpammer> Well said 3 words twice...
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#422 [05:25] <lemon-rev> why at level 1 bed rock level i find lava at level 2
#423 [05:25] <lemon-rev> ?
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#432 [06:25] <BarryCarlyon> lemon-rev: its random :-P
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#434 [06:25] <Elvang> Anyone playing Minecraft with a gamepad?
#435 [06:26] <feenyx> not that I know of
#436 [06:26] <feenyx> can't really see how it'd be preferrable either :)
#437 [06:27] <Elvang> The menus would be a pain, but general gameplay would be fine
#438 [06:29] <feenyx> oh I'm sure it'd be okay, but I can't really see why you'd want to. A mouse is a much more accurate tool than an analog stick
#439 [06:30] <Elvang> That's why I think it'd be fine to use a gamepad, you don't really need to be accurate during gameplay here
#440 [06:30] <feenyx> in my opinion, that's like saying you don't need all ten toes because you're not doing ballet :p
#441 [06:31] <Elvang> :p
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#443 [06:32] <feenyx> you may not need the accuracy all the time, but I like having it there. Especially when building somewhere where falling down will kill me :)
#444 [06:33] <Elvang> The joystick can be set to move slower the less you're pushing on it :\
#445 [06:33] <BarryCarlyon> I was thinking of giving it a bash with the xbox conttroller. I posted a suggestion to the get satisfaction when I saw someone suggesting game pad.
#446 [06:33] <feenyx> the mouse moves as fast or slow as you want it, all the time :p
#447 [06:34] <feenyx> the problem with a gamepad in first person games, is you need both slow and quick movement for different parts of the gameplay
#448 [06:34] <feenyx> which is what makes the mouse superior
#449 [06:34] <feenyx> most games go for a compromise
#450 [06:35] <feenyx> which will be fine for most people, but not quite 100%
#451 [06:35] <BarryCarlyon> Indeed.
#452 [06:35] <BarryCarlyon> I like the xbox controller with the windows reciever, so I can sit back and play rather than sitting at the machine.
#453 [06:36] <BarryCarlyon> Imagine playing minecraft on your massive TV.....
#454 [06:36] <BarryCarlyon> Tho you can do it with long mouse cable
#455 [06:36] <feenyx> or a wireless mouse if you're in a bind :p
#456 [06:36] <Elvang> Does the pc detect the xbox controller as just another joystick?
#457 [06:36] <feenyx> why haven't I done this yet?
#458 [06:36] <feenyx> I need to play mc on my widescreen
#459 [06:37] <BarryCarlyon> Elvang: I believe so. I use it more on my mac tho.
#460 [06:37] <BarryCarlyon> Elvang: the newer drivers means I can use the xbox controlelr with headset as a skype headset too.
#461 [06:37] <feenyx> Elvang: haven't tried with an xbox controller. I have a usb->playstation adapter thingy though, and Win7 didn't need any drivers for that to work
#462 [06:37] <Elvang> Going to convert my dead frontier script over and try it out in minecraft
#463 [06:38] <Elvang> Is mousewheel +/- the only way to cycle through your items other than by number?
#464 [06:38] <feenyx> Elvang: number keys 1-8
#465 [06:38] <feenyx> oh, other than by number, yes
#466 [06:39] <Elvang> Hmm
#467 [06:39] <feenyx> there will probably be custom keybind support eventually though
#468 [06:39] <feenyx> but it's not really a core feature, so it's not a priority
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#470 [06:51] <oiseaux> Am I okay to ask where I can find a certain mod here?
#471 [06:52] <feenyx> well
#472 [06:52] <feenyx> you could just google it, which is what we'd do if you asked anyway
#473 [06:52] <feenyx> we don't really take it upon ourselves to support mods in any way, shape or form
#474 [06:52] <oiseaux> I'm looking for the name of the mod that improves the shadows / lighting
#475 [06:53] <feenyx> no clue about it :)
#476 [06:53] <oiseaux> Is all, Google proved fruitless
#477 [06:53] <feenyx> hm
#478 [06:53] <feenyx> this? http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-find-and-install-better-light-mod-for-your-minecraft-game-415932/
#479 [06:54] <oiseaux> cool, looks like the one. thanks!
#480 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=55700 ?
#481 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> bah
#482 [06:54] <Elvang> Hmm
#483 [06:55] <Elvang> I didn't see a difference in the lighting at the end of his video...
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#485 [06:56] <feenyx> Elvang: check out the link GreyVulpine posted
#486 [06:56] <Charles> sooo
#487 [06:56] <Charles> can any one help me with constant crashes?
#488 [06:56] * GreyVulpine hides behind feenyx.
#488 [06:57] <Charles> cause its hard to play when u crash every 30sec-2mins
#489 [06:57] <Elvang> Hmm
#490 [06:57] <Elvang> I like the grass, but my minecraft chugs along slowly already
#491 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> Charles - Got a crash/error report?
#492 [06:58] <feenyx> Charles: well, does it give an error, or just closes down?
#493 [06:58] <feenyx> also, tht
#494 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> If you do, could you paste it at pastebin.com and give us the URL
#495 [06:59] <Charles> well it sortof like times out
#496 [06:59] <Charles> som times it does
#497 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> "times out"?
#498 [06:59] <Charles> but white screen generally
#499 [06:59] <Elvang> So player movement and view, left/right click, menu, inventory, item cycling, and sneaking. Anything else that is used fairly often?
#500 [06:59] <Elvang> Oh, and jumping
#501 [06:59] <Charles> yeah not responding
#502 [06:59] <Charles> umm
#503 [07:00] <Arkose> Elvang: talking?
#504 [07:00] <Charles> yeah i do mainly mining and building my house atm
#505 [07:00] <Charles> yeh
#506 [07:00] <Elvang> Wouldn't really be useful on a gamepad, but I'll add the option
#507 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> Elvang - Don't forget some of the Function keys, f5 for third person, f3 for stats, f2 to take a screenshot and so on
#508 [07:02] <Elvang> 1:o
#509 [07:02] <Elvang> I didn't know about the rest, just f2
#510 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> f11 for full screen.
#511 [07:02] <Arkose> F1 hides the HUD and eye effect, and if used with F5 you can rotate around
#512 [07:04] <Elvang> Hmm, might have to make a 'function' menu for one of the buttons
#513 [07:04] <feenyx> I've blagged me a dual Opteron workstation off work. I bet it'll crunch away at MC like there's no tomorrow. Server move imminent :p
#514 [07:09] <Elvang> Huh... anyone actually use Shift+F2? Supposedly takes a 1gig screenshot :\
#515 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> Unfinished code, and no
#516 [07:10] <Charles> Description:
#517 [07:10] <Charles> A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.
#518 [07:10] <Charles> Problem signature:
#519 [07:10] <Charles> Problem Event Name: AppHangB1
#520 [07:10] <Charles> Application Name: javaw.exe
#521 [07:10] <Charles> Application Version: 6.0.230.5
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#529 [08:07] <Elvang> So I've got a ton of redstone, and no idea what to use it for. I'm aware of the various circuits one can make, but what would I use them to accomplish?
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#531 [08:08] <xmasta> what do you want to accomplish?
#532 [08:08] <Elvang> No idea. Nothing comes to mind that would be easier to do via redstone than manually :\
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#534 [08:09] <xmasta> make a compass and stack the rest then, til you have an idea
#535 [08:10] <Elvang> Is it possible to block/unblock a flow of water?
#536 [08:10] <Elvang> A door seems to prevent water from passing no matter its state
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#548 [09:14] <Szernex> !server
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#552 [09:48] <monkeyboy9988> how can i get a saddle
#553 [09:49] <xales> http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Saddle
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#557 [09:54] <Steeeveeeoo> hello
#558 [09:55] <Steeeveeeoo> Could someone give me help with my server
#559 [09:55] <Steeeveeeoo> My server was griefed while I was offline is there a way I can check who has been on my server in that time?
#560 [09:56] <Steeeveeeoo> anyone here?
#561 [09:56] <Zemedelphos> Oh, hi
#562 [09:56] <Zemedelphos> Look at your server's gui
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#564 [09:56] <Zemedelphos> it should say who all logged in while it was on.
#565 [09:57] <Steeeveeeoo> ok
#566 [09:57] <Zemedelphos> As a tip, either turn the server off, or make sure you have Ops when you're not on.
#567 [09:57] <Steeeveeeoo> how do I ban these people from my server?
#568 [09:57] <Zemedelphos> There are plugins and applications you can download to help you.
#569 [09:57] <Zemedelphos> I believe the command is
#570 [09:58] <Zemedelphos> /ban <username or IP?
#571 [09:58] <Zemedelphos> ignore the < and the ?
#572 [09:58] <Steeeveeeoo> ok
#573 [09:58] <Steeeveeeoo> does this just ban them from my server only
#574 [09:58] <Zemedelphos> Yes.
#575 [09:58] <Steeeveeeoo> or does it ban them from minecraft all together?
#576 [09:58] <Zemedelphos> You can't do that.
#577 [09:58] <Steeeveeeoo> ok
#578 [09:58] <Zemedelphos> It just bans them from your server.
#579 [09:58] <Steeeveeeoo> Is there a way to get them banned from minecraft
#580 [09:59] <Zemedelphos> Not that I know of.
#581 [09:59] <Steeeveeeoo> ugh
#582 [09:59] <Zemedelphos> They payed for the game.
#583 [09:59] <Zemedelphos> Just because they pissed you off, it's no reason to take away their rights to the game.
#584 [09:59] <Zemedelphos> Anyway, there are plugins you can get for griefing protection.
#585 [10:00] <Zemedelphos> And also for backing up your world
#586 [10:00] <Steeeveeeoo> what do the griefing protection ones do?
#587 [10:00] <Zemedelphos> Well, the one my friend had.
#588 [10:00] <Zemedelphos> Made it so you had to be a "citizen" of his "town" in order to build there.
#589 [10:00] <Zemedelphos> And you couldn't build in an area owned by someone else
#590 [10:00] <Zemedelphos> You couldn't remove blocks from there either.
#591 [10:00] <Steeeveeeoo> k :S
#592 [10:00] <Zemedelphos> But
#593 [10:01] <Zemedelphos> The simplest way is to backup the server every so often.
#594 [10:01] <Steeeveeeoo> okay I will look into it
#595 [10:01] <Steeeveeeoo> thanks
#596 [10:01] <Zemedelphos> That way, you can effectively just reset the server.
#597 [10:01] <Zemedelphos> K
#598 [10:01] <Steeeveeeoo> it should be pre installed those plug ins to stop griefing
#599 [10:02] <Zemedelphos> They aren't official minecraft applications
#600 [10:02] <Zemedelphos> They're mods.
#601 [10:03] <Steeeveeeoo> oh that explains it
#602 [10:03] <Steeeveeeoo> mods aren't bannable are they?
#603 [10:04] <feenyx> not yet they aren't
#604 [10:04] <Zemedelphos> Your servers are private.
#605 [10:04] <Zemedelphos> There'd be no rhyme or reason in banning for mods.
#606 [10:04] <feenyx> that depends what the mods do
#607 [10:05] <Steeeveeeoo> ok
#608 [10:05] <feenyx> but mods, in and of themselves, are allowed
#609 [10:06] <feenyx> we just don't support them, because supporting a game that's in Beta is hard enough
#610 [10:06] <Zemedelphos> Yeah
#611 [10:06] <feenyx> without adding alpha/beta mods to the mix
#612 [10:06] <Steeeveeeoo> ok
#613 [10:06] <Zemedelphos> I felt it was safe enough to discuss anti-griefing plugins.
#614 [10:06] <feenyx> by all means discuss them, just don't expect much help :)
#615 [10:06] <Zemedelphos> Right
#616 [10:07] <Zemedelphos> Though if you want the simple way, just download treasure chest, and take the server down every so often to make a backup.
#617 [10:07] <feenyx> most of us use them, but few are familiar with all the issues that may or may not arise from using certain mods
#618 [10:07] <Zemedelphos> Treasurechest is a standalone application that just reads, copies, and replaces data.
#619 [10:07] <Steeeveeeoo> what texture pack do you recommend?
#620 [10:07] <Zemedelphos> But the map must NOT be in use while it's running.
#621 [10:07] <feenyx> I only use a couple of admin tools like a whitelist, user groups and such
#622 [10:07] <Zemedelphos> Default :P
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#624 [10:08] <Zemedelphos> You could also get painterly if you want
#625 [10:08] <Zemedelphos> I switch between default and painterly every so often.
#626 [10:09] <Steeeveeeoo> ok
#627 [10:09] <Steeeveeeoo> well i'm off
#628 [10:09] <Zemedelphos> Hmm, did Dooku update the RPG texture pack yet?
#629 [10:09] <Steeeveeeoo> cya
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#642 [10:58] * Kealper eats an oatmeal bake
#642 [10:59] <BarryCarlyon> !check barrycarlyon.co.uk
#643 [10:59] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#644 [10:59] <Mikau> .
#645 [11:00] <Mikau> ok? just .
#646 [11:03] <LatHans> how can I set my player name when I'm playing offline?
#647 [11:03] <Kealper> you can't :/
#648 [11:04] <Mikau> !check me.out
#649 [11:04] <Kealper> wut
#650 [11:04] <Mikau> :(
#651 [11:04] <Mikau> AuBot thinks I look "grim" :(
#652 [11:04] <LatHans> so all players needs to be named "Player" when playing offline? :\
#653 [11:04] <Kealper> yea
#654 [11:04] <Kealper> offline mode is not really meant for multiplayer :/
#655 [11:04] <Mikau> !check out.kealper
#656 [11:05] <Mikau> Apparently you look grim too.
#657 [11:05] <LatHans> Kealper: yeah, know, but it's better than nothing when I'm having trouble connecting to minecraft.net :P
#658 [11:05] <Kealper> i got logged in on the 3rd try like 5 sec ago
#659 [11:06] <LatHans> mine fails instantly with can't connect to minecraft.net
#660 [11:06] <Kealper> BarryCarlyon: i am disappoint with your server.....i can't get on :(
#661 [11:06] <BarryCarlyon> Kealper: I can't login to the mc client.
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#663 [11:06] <BarryCarlyon> One of my users says he couldn't get on hence I used !check.
#664 [11:06] <LatHans> yay, I got in
#665 [11:06] <Kealper> uhh....is there supposed to be a remnant of a tree burning at spawn?
#666 [11:07] <BarryCarlyon> Since at work shouldn't really connect to stuff at work.
#667 [11:07] <BarryCarlyon> Kealper: probably
#668 [11:07] <Kealper> oh, that isn't a tree, nvm lol
#669 [11:07] <BarryCarlyon> I need to get on and tidy up some people made a mess.
#670 [11:07] <BarryCarlyon> Map for Kealper : http://barrycarlyon.co.uk/minecraft/map/
#671 [11:08] <BarryCarlyon> Occasionally the server decides to explode whilst no one is on it.
#672 [11:08] <BarryCarlyon> I think ubuntu java is not as good as freebsd java I had it on before moving it to the vps
#673 [11:08] <Kealper> that's a long tail your man has there lol
#674 [11:08] <LatHans> what kind of map thingy is this?
#675 [11:08] <Kealper> i think there are a few different mappers that do this
#676 [11:09] <LatHans> I use dynmap myself, but this one looks more fancy somehow
#677 [11:09] <BarryCarlyon> Minecraft overviewer.
#678 [11:09] <LatHans> neat
#679 [11:10] <BarryCarlyon> When I get the page fixed. I use c10t to generate a top down, and then minecraft overview (with the 4 states) to generate the google map style.
#680 [11:10] <LatHans> is it a bukkit plugin?
#681 [11:10] <BarryCarlyon> Nope
#682 [11:10] <BarryCarlyon> Every 10 mins server backups to my house. And once per day home box generats map and uploads it again
#683 [11:10] <LatHans> oh, so it isn't live
#684 [11:11] <BarryCarlyon> Map nope.
#685 [11:11] <BarryCarlyon> Current version is a about a day out
#686 [11:12] <LatHans> so it just reads the world directory and generates a map?
#687 [11:13] <LatHans> windows binary? ouch.. I'm only running linux
#688 [11:13] <BarryCarlyon> I use linux.
#689 [11:13] <BarryCarlyon> For both.
#690 [11:13] <BarryCarlyon> they jsut made a winblows binarys for the fools.
#691 [11:13] <BarryCarlyon> I usually run the latest build of both. Gotta love git.
#692 [11:14] <BarryCarlyon> I have a nice update script that pulls then both and builds if needed.
#693 [11:14] <LatHans> just pull the current git base?
#694 [11:14] <LatHans> yes please:)
#695 [11:15] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#696 [11:15] <BarryCarlyon> c10t needs building overviewer likes to be build for the alpha extension iirc
#697 [11:16] <BarryCarlyon> My overview needed a patch. But I think said patch should be in core by now. Need to check in. Work is too busy atm
#698 [11:16] <LatHans> ok:)
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#700 [11:16] <zotune> Hi guys, the Mac version is not working. I click the icon, but nothing happens. And on the Web-Browser version I get a crash message
#701 [11:17] <BarryCarlyon> Mac version of what?
#702 [11:17] <zotune> Minecraft Client
#703 [11:17] <BarryCarlyon> Got latest version of java?
#704 [11:17] <BarryCarlyon> What kind of mac?
#705 [11:17] <zotune> Macbook Pro 2010
#706 [11:17] <BarryCarlyon> Is everything up to date?
#707 [11:17] <zotune> Yes, everything is up to date on Software Update
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#709 [11:18] <BarryCarlyon> Mine just works so not sure what the problem could be....
#710 [11:18] <zotune> Noone else with the same problem?
#711 [11:18] <zotune> On browser version I get - Minecraft has crashed!
#712 [11:18] <zotune> ----------------------
#713 [11:19] <zotune> [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)]
#714 [11:20] <zotune> now I tried to run MinecraftLauncher.jar
#715 [11:20] <zotune> that might have worked
#716 [11:21] <Kealper> is that the full error report?
#717 [11:21] <zotune> no, Ill up it to pastebin
#718 [11:21] <zotune> http://pastebin.com/TJSWBGxD
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#721 [11:22] <zotune> the MinecraftLauncher.jar file works
#722 [11:22] <zotune> so its probly the Minecraft.app file is corrupt in some way
#723 [11:23] <zotune> I opened the contents of the package
#724 [11:23] <Kealper> hmm... .app...mac?
#725 [11:25] <zotune> mac applications usually come in a single file
#726 [11:25] <zotune> extracting that file, and running just the java application worked
#727 [11:25] <BarryCarlyon> Where did you run the app from? Which directory?
#728 [11:25] <Kealper> so the problem is fixed? or is there still a problem? i'm confuesed x.x
#729 [11:26] <zotune> I extracted the Zip file and copied the Minecraft.app file to Applications
#730 [11:26] <zotune> Ran the Minecraft.app file, nothing happend
#731 [11:26] <zotune> Tried Browser version, got Pastebin error
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#733 [11:26] <zotune> Right-clicked the Minecraft.app file, and click Show Package Contents
#734 [11:27] <zotune> Opened the MinecraftLauncher.jar inside Minecraft.app
#735 [11:27] <zotune> That appears to work
#736 [11:28] <Kealper> that diamond mine is massive o.o
#737 [11:28] <Elvang> ?
#738 [11:28] <relsqui> Kealper: that's what she said?
#739 [11:28] <Kealper> in barry's server lol
#740 [11:29] <BarryCarlyon> Under the pyramid?
#741 [11:29] <Kealper> yeah
#742 [11:30] <BarryCarlyon> The owner has been working on that for ages
#743 [11:30] <LatHans> BarryCarlyon: did you get the C extension to compile in minecraft overviewer?
#744 [11:30] <LatHans> I pulled the git version and it failed with _composite.c:26:21: error: Imaging.h: No such file or directory
#745 [11:30] <LatHans> dunno if I'm missing something?
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#747 [11:31] <BarryCarlyon> LatHans: yes.
#748 [11:31] <BarryCarlyon> LatHans: have you installed all the python deps?
#749 [11:31] <LatHans> yes, at least the one mentioned in the readme
#750 [11:31] <LatHans> the ones*
#751 [11:32] <BarryCarlyon> 'sec
#752 [11:32] <LatHans> maybe it doesn't look in the right spots
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#754 [11:32] <BarryCarlyon> one sec
#755 [11:33] <BarryCarlyon> Do you have python development libs or straight python installed?
#756 [11:33] <LatHans> I compiled python from source, so I guess that means I got both
#757 [11:33] <LatHans> (slackware)
#758 [11:33] <BarryCarlyon> If its imaging.h missing check you have Python dev and PIL.
#759 [11:34] <BarryCarlyon> If it doesn't do the extension it will still run fine :-D
#760 [11:34] <BarryCarlyon> Check compiling the c extension halfway down https://github.com/brownan/Minecraft-Overviewer
#761 [11:35] <LatHans> I'll try putting in the files manually
#762 [11:36] <LatHans> that's better
#763 [11:37] <LatHans> thanks:)
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#765 [11:39] <zotune> Theres no sound on the game though
#766 [11:40] <zotune> Is there any special java update I need to download?
#767 [11:42] <BarryCarlyon> LatHans: check out c10t also on github
#768 [11:42] <BarryCarlyon> \
#769 [11:44] <LatHans> I'll do that:)'
#770 [11:44] <LatHans> 2011-02-07 17:44:00,630 [INFO] 1000/5591 chunks rendered
#771 [11:44] <LatHans> yawn
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#773 [11:46] <Kealper> only 5591 chunks?
#774 [11:47] <Kealper> u.u
#775 [11:47] <Kealper> some person just asked me what program i use to make websites, so i said Notepad++......
#776 [11:48] <Kealper> and he did not understand how i could make a website without drawing it up in a wysiwyg editor -.-
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#778 [11:48] <BarryCarlyon> Small map is small
#779 [11:48] <BarryCarlyon> lol
#780 [11:48] <BarryCarlyon> I use textmate or nano on command line
#781 [11:49] <Kealper> <3 vi? lol
#782 [11:49] <BarryCarlyon> Vi a little, more nano.
#783 [11:49] <Kealper> lol
#784 [11:49] <BarryCarlyon> But these days its all textmate -> git -> deply
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#786 [11:49] <AeroAim> Hey people
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#789 [11:50] <AeroAim> Anyone good in tweaking the BiomeTerrainModifier settings?
#790 [11:52] <DopeGhoti> Well, that was a nice talk, AeroAim
#791 [11:52] <LatHans> Kealper: yeah, it's a new server;)
#792 [11:54] <xales> DopeGhoti: This one was even better ._.
#793 [11:54] <xales> 11:01:44 -!- shosher [Mibbit@82-169-253-49.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #help
#794 [11:54] <xales> 11:01:57 < shosher> hej
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#796 [11:58] <DopeGhoti> All of 17 seconds. Impressive.
#797 [11:58] <DopeGhoti> I suppose there is merit to usiing seconds on timestamps.
#798 [11:59] <xales> Best part: Topic says
#799 [11:59] <xales> Have an IRC question? Please ask nicely and give us some time to respond | Try our help pages @ http://www.esper.net/help.php
#800 [12:00] <zotune> Maybe the mac version will be fixed eventually?
#801 [12:00] <zotune> I tried updating Java, with no luck
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#803 [12:00] <DopeGhoti> zotune: the "Mac version" (also known as "the same .jar everyone else uses") works fine for me. Even on my MAc.
#804 [12:01] <zotune> Don't understand what I can be doing wrong then
#805 [12:02] <DopeGhoti> I just got here; have you got a quick synopsis of your problem handy?
#806 [12:02] <zotune> Ok… I run the Minecraft.app, and nothing happens
#807 [12:02] <zotune> The webbrowser version gives me an error
#808 [12:03] <DopeGhoti> Have you tried reinstalling the binaries?
#809 [12:03] <zotune> If I show package contents, and run the .jar app by itself, it somewhat works.. But I get no sound, and graphics problems
#810 [12:03] <xales> What model of Mac is it? Are you running Snow Leopard?
#811 [12:04] <zotune> Latest Macbook Pro, latest OS X
#812 [12:04] <DopeGhoti> (open /Users/$YOURNAME/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft/ and remove the bin directory)
#813 [12:04] <Teth0ruX> would it be good to run mcserver in a chroot?
#814 [12:04] <zotune> then run it?
#815 [12:04] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#816 [12:04] <zotune> no luck
#817 [12:05] <zotune> anything I should set in Java Preferences?
#818 [12:05] <DopeGhoti> Teth0ruX: It's be easiest/best to run it as a decicated user.
#819 [12:05] <zotune> There's a 64-bit version and a 32-bit version
#820 [12:05] <zotune> which one should be preferred?
#821 [12:05] <DopeGhoti> 64-bit
#822 [12:05] <DopeGhoti> also, have you the latest Java from System Update?
#823 [12:05] <zotune> yes, no more updates to be found in System Update
#824 [12:05] <Teth0ruX> DopeGhoti okay :) Thanks
#825 [12:07] <DopeGhoti> zotune: interesting. Care to try something outlandish?
#826 [12:07] <zotune> Sure
#827 [12:07] <DopeGhoti> zotune: Create a new user, see if it works under that account.
#828 [12:07] <zotune> On OS X?
#829 [12:09] <DopeGhoti> zotune: This is a trick I usually reserve for Windows, but a fresh user profile has its benefits in POSIX too.
#830 [12:09] <zotune> http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/off-topic/31/how-do-i-get-minecraft-to-work/461649/
#831 [12:09] <zotune> think the solution is here
#832 [12:09] <zotune> but need to find the right command
#833 [12:12] <DopeGhoti> did you try the chmod command? That look familiar
#834 [12:12] <xales> wait
#835 [12:12] <xales> whats the problem?
#836 [12:12] <zotune> chmod command fixed it
#837 [12:12] <DopeGhoti> \o/
#838 [12:13] <zotune> cheers for help :)
#839 [12:13] <DopeGhoti> Thanks for that link, I"ll be adding that to my FAQBot, currently in progress
#840 [12:13] <zotune> :) np
#841 [12:13] <zotune> sound works now too :)
#842 [12:13] <Teth0ruX> DopeGhoti You know a little bit about mc on linux?
#843 [12:14] <zotune> Any way to make Minecraft run 64bit?
#844 [12:14] <zotune> or no point?
#845 [12:14] <xales> Teth0ruX: I do
#846 [12:14] <DopeGhoti> Teth0ruX: I do, yes.
#847 [12:14] <xales> zotune: If you have a 64-bit Mac, it will be using 64-bit Java and Minecraft will be running 64-bit
#848 [12:15] <DopeGhoti> zotune: It should by default, but it doesn't hurt it as such to run 32-bit if it wants to for some reason
#849 [12:15] <Teth0ruX> xales , DopeGhoti , Nice :) I try to install teh Server with this Tutorial: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=628, in the .zip file isn't a server config or a admin.txt etc. , why?
#850 [12:15] <zotune> Should have 64-bit, but it does not run 64bit
#851 [12:15] <zotune> The game does not run too smoothly :p
#852 [12:16] <xales> zotune: Close other programs
#853 [12:16] <zotune> no more memory
#854 [12:16] <zotune> should probly close safarri
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#856 [12:16] <xales> Teth0ruX: It doesn't come with those - when you first run the server, the properties is generated if it isn't found, and admins.txt is created manually
#857 [12:16] <Teth0ruX> oh :) Okay.
#858 [12:16] <Teth0ruX> Thanks
#859 [12:16] <DopeGhoti> o.O there's an admins.txt in vanilla? I thought it was ops.txt
#860 [12:17] <Teth0ruX> :D dunno
#861 [12:17] <zotune> bbl, restart
#862 [12:17] <DopeGhoti> zotune: Yes, Minecraft uses heaps and gobs of RAM; it allocates 1GiB on startup
#863 [12:17] <DopeGhoti> zotune: You have an MBP; are you running with 4GiB or 8GiB of RAM?
#864 [12:17] <xales> DopeGhoti: That tutorial is for a Classic server
#865 [12:17] <DopeGhoti> xales: ah
#866 [12:17] <zotune> 4gb
#867 [12:17] <zotune> brb :)
#868 [12:17] <DopeGhoti> zotune: k
#869 [12:18] <DopeGhoti> xales: people should mention when they're running an old, no-longer-developed, not-really-supported version
#870 [12:18] <xales> Indeed they should
#871 [12:18] * DopeGhoti doesn't go into #WindowsHelp and ask for assistance with Windows 2.0.
#871 [12:18] * xales does :o
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#873 [12:22] <zotune> DopeGhoti: Not running too stable, but I'm not sure how much the mac version requires
#874 [12:23] <zotune> Heavy fps drops
#875 [12:23] <xales> Do you have any other programs open, at all?
#876 [12:23] <zotune> No, just restarted
#877 [12:23] <zotune> Just IRC
#878 [12:23] <DopeGhoti> zotune: it allocates 1GiB.
#879 [12:23] <zotune> Using 500mb memory now
#880 [12:23] <zotune> and 50% cpu
#881 [12:24] <DopeGhoti> Oh, it'll definitly give your CPU a workout. (:
#882 [12:24] <zotune> 100% now :P
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#884 [12:24] <zotune> but I've seen the cpu go to 250% etc
#885 [12:24] <]Phi[> Hi there! i need help with a minecraft problem
#886 [12:24] <xales> ]Phi[: What's the issue?
#887 [12:24] <DopeGhoti> I have not tried using MC fullscreen on my Mac; I generally use the default window size (or smaller, as my Mac is at work, heh).
#888 [12:24] <]Phi[> it seems, that i cant craft certain items
#889 [12:24] <]Phi[> (bought the game yesterday)
#890 [12:24] <DopeGhoti> which items?
#891 [12:25] <]Phi[> a torch
#892 [12:25] <]Phi[> a pickaxe with stone
#893 [12:25] <DopeGhoti> torch is coal atop one stick
#894 [12:25] <zotune> setting graphics too fast seemed to help a bit
#895 [12:25] <DopeGhoti> zotune: Is this a 13" MBP?
#896 [12:25] <]Phi[> i can create a wood-pickaxe, but it wont work with stone
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#898 [12:25] <]Phi[> i tried sticks and gravel
#899 [12:26] <DopeGhoti> ]Phi[: That's quite strange.
#900 [12:26] <DopeGhoti> Aaah
#901 [12:26] <DopeGhoti> not gravel; you have to use stone or cobblestone
#902 [12:26] <]Phi[> ah :)
#903 [12:26] <zotune> Is it running smoothly for you DopeGhoti?
#904 [12:26] <DopeGhoti> (That's why it's a stone pick and not a gravel pick (: )
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#906 [12:26] <]Phi[> this game is great.... friends played it and i wasnt interested, then my fav gamemag wrote a big article
#907 [12:26] <DopeGhoti> zotune: it is, but my Mac has the second dedicated GPU
#908 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> zotune: Is yours the 13" MBP?
#909 [12:27] <zotune> Mine too
#910 [12:27] <zotune> no the 15"
#911 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> ah, ok
#912 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#913 [12:27] <zotune> Should have two GPUs
#914 [12:27] <zotune> but not sure if it has activated the other one
#915 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> Yep, the 15" and larger do
#916 [12:27] <zotune> supposed to be automatic
#917 [12:27] <zotune> Vice City etc ran fine on 1080p
#918 [12:27] <]Phi[> ok :) i try it with stone :)
#919 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> You could try disabling the automation of GPU selection (which makes the better GPU always be active)
#920 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> but that'll hurt battery life
#921 [12:27] <]Phi[> thanks fpr the help Dope
#922 [12:28] <DopeGhoti> ]Phi[: cheers.
#923 [12:28] <zotune> ok, willdo
#924 [12:29] <zotune> hmm doesnt seem to do much
#925 [12:29] <zotune> runs more stable on Tiny distance and less fancy graphics
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#929 [12:30] <MaxEric93> Okay i need help setting up correctly a multiplayer server
#930 [12:31] <xales> What part do you need help with?
#931 [12:31] <MaxEric93> Setting up the port, and be able to have the world appear on the server
#932 [12:31] <MaxEric93> Cause the world does not appear at all
#933 [12:32] <xales> Define 'does not appear'
#934 [12:32] <MaxEric93> When I succeed connecting on my server there is nothing at all, so I fall until the game crashes
#935 [12:32] <MaxEric93> There's nothing
#936 [12:32] <MaxEric93> No blocks at all
#937 [12:32] <xales> What are the specs of your computer?
#938 [12:32] <MaxEric93> Windows 7 64bits, Intel Core 2 Quad 2.33GHz 4Go RAM
#939 [12:33] <MaxEric93> NVIDIA GeForce G100
#940 [12:33] <xales> Open Task Manager while you have the server and client open
#941 [12:33] <xales> how much RAM and CPU are you using
#942 [12:34] <MaxEric93> CPU 20/30% RAM 1.73Go
#943 [12:35] <xales> What address are you connecting with?
#944 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> zotune: Hm. Not sure what else I can suggest. I know "I'm not having that problem with inferior hardware" isn't much help to you
#945 [12:36] <MaxEric93> 192.168.0.2:25565
#946 [12:36] <xolotl> MaxEric93: A 192.168.x.x address is only available on your local internet; you'd need to advertise your actual public IP
#947 [12:36] <xolotl> MaxEric93: (and have port-forwarding set up)
#948 [12:36] <xales> xolotl: ._.
#949 [12:36] <xolotl> um, and by "local internet" I mean "local network"
#950 [12:36] <xolotl> LOCAL INTARBLAGS
#951 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> MaxEric93: to see what yoyr WAN IP is, go to www.ipchicken.com
#952 [12:36] <xales> trying to find out why he isn't getting chunks loading when he connects
#953 [12:37] <MaxEric93> Yeah i know that
#954 [12:37] <xales> MaxEric93: Try connecting with 127.0.0.1 to see if you get the same problem
#955 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> MaxEric93: but that, as mentioned, doesn't address the chunks not getting passed to the client.
#956 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> MaxEric93: You're not running ZoneAlarm, are you?
#957 [12:37] <MaxEric93> I am
#958 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> KILL IT KILL IT WITH FIRE
#959 [12:37] <aetherian> o.o
#960 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> (Seriously, ZoneAlarm is known now to cause issues with Minecraft, including but not limited to crashing servers)
#961 [12:38] <xales> (and everything else)
#962 [12:38] <MaxEric93> with 127.0.0.1 => connection refused
#963 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> (*snrk*)
#964 [12:38] <aetherian> shouldn't he kill it with electricity?
#965 [12:38] <xales> MaxEric93: Did you put anything on the server-ip= line in server.properties?
#966 [12:39] <MaxEric93> YAY SUCCED
#967 [12:39] <MaxEric93> Shuted down zonealarm
#968 [12:39] <MaxEric93> And the world generated !!!
#969 [12:39] * DopeGhoti bows with a flourish
#969 [12:39] <MaxEric93> Hurray thanks guys ;)
#970 [12:39] <DopeGhoti> That'll be $8.
#971 [12:39] * MaxEric93 offers gift to everyone who helped :D
#971 [12:39] <aetherian> is it just me, or does the server's world generator seem to work differently than the single player one?
#972 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: I'd have an answer for you, but I haven't played SSP since the Boo! update.
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#974 [12:40] <MaxEric93> Can anyone try to connect to my serv to check if it works for other people ?
#975 [12:40] <aetherian> which update wazzat?
#976 [12:40] <MaxEric93> 82.225.166.186:25565
#977 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: The one on Halloween?
#978 [12:40] <xales> MaxEric93: You can use the bot in this channel
#979 [12:40] <aetherian> ah
#980 [12:40] <xales> !check 82.225.166.186
#981 [12:40] <MaxEric93> !check 82.225.166.186:25565
#982 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> MaxEric93: your port forwarding may not be set up properly
#983 [12:41] <MaxEric93> Yeah i think that's the problem know
#984 [12:41] <MaxEric93> Anyway thanks for help guys ;)
#985 [12:42] <DopeGhoti> Cheers
#986 [12:43] <xales> DopeGhoti: How's the FAQBot? What are you writing that in, btw?
#987 [12:43] <DopeGhoti> xales: Still compiling FAQs. Debating whether to use an Eggdrop or expand the handbuilt Pyton-based one I use in another channel.
#988 [12:44] <]Phi[> hi there :) another `tactical´question: how do i best deal with the exploding zombies. one is stuck in my first and only homecave and i would be sad, if he explodes
#989 [12:44] <xolotl> ]Phi[: You mean creepers? The green things? Those aren't zombies. :)
#990 [12:44] <]Phi[> k, creepers :)
#991 [12:44] <xolotl> ]Phi[: If you walk far enough away from your base it'll disappear
#992 [12:44] <]Phi[> (started yesterday)
#993 [12:44] <xolotl> ]Phi[: Otherwise, the safest way to attack is with a bow+arrow
#994 [12:44] <]Phi[> ah :)
#995 [12:45] <]Phi[> i just got sticks now ;) but i work on the bow&arrow thing
#996 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> ]Phi[: Get yourself a bow, and make some arrows. Apply five arrows to creeper, collect sulphur.
#997 [12:45] <xolotl> It's certainly possible to kill one with a sword before it explodes, though it takes some finesse (and is nigh-impossible in SMP)
#998 [12:45] <xolotl> ]Phi[: Need string to make a bow, which will require killing a couple of spiders, btw.
#999 [12:45] <]Phi[> this game is a phenomenon :)
#1000 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> That it is.
#1001 [12:45] <]Phi[> i´ve got much to learn ^^
#1002 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> Let the Wiki be your guide.
#1003 [12:46] <]Phi[> a german game mag wrote a fantastic article about it so i bought it =)
#1004 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> Though I do with there was a way to find out new crafting recipes without just looking them up :p
#1005 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> That's really my main complaint about the game
#1006 [12:48] <]Phi[> maybe it will be adressed in the future
#1007 [12:48] <DopeGhoti> Probably.
#1008 [12:49] <xales> Dope, if you want to use Eggdrop for it, I've been thinking about bringing one into #minecraft because I can't be bothered to write stuff like timed bans into my bot, and it might be worthwhile to link them so both can ask in both channels, should you want to do that
#1009 [12:49] <xales> both can be used in*
#1010 [12:49] <xales> err
#1011 [12:49] <xales> English fail!
#1012 [12:50] <xales> you get my point though
#1013 [12:50] <DopeGhoti> xales: Sure, just so long as nothing on the BotNet is called SkyNet.
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#1015 [12:51] <xales> >:)
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#1017 [12:51] * xales mv eggdrop.conf skynet.conf
#1017 [12:51] <DopeGhoti> python bot it is.
#1018 [12:51] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1019 [12:51] <xales> ):
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#1021 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> (also.. you leave it as eggdrop.conf?)
#1022 [12:52] <Scorpioxx> Hello, Im wondering is it possible to change my nickname? And if it is possible how do I do it. I guess I have to send an email to support or something like it?
#1023 [12:52] <xales> Scorpioxx: Correct, you would have to email support
#1024 [12:52] <xales> DopeGhoti: I don't have Eggdrop built/installed atm
#1025 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> Scorpioxx: there is not currently a mechanism to change your minecraft username outside of having Mojang do it by hand.
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#1027 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> xales: ah.
#1028 [12:53] <xales> anyway
#1029 [12:53] * xales goes to afkland!
#1029 [12:53] <Scorpioxx> Okay thanks. Whats the email for this type of support?
#1030 [12:53] <DopeGhoti> xales: I really really wish someone would make an eggdrop clone in, well, any language other than TCL :p
#1031 [12:53] <DopeGhoti> Scorpioxx: support@mojang.com. Expect to wait.
#1032 [12:53] <malregima> /nick nickname
#1033 [12:54] <Scorpioxx> Yeah Im not in a hurry anyways.
#1034 [12:54] <Scorpioxx> THanks guys for good help and support! I appreciate it a lot.
#1035 [12:54] <DopeGhoti> Scorpioxx: cheers
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#1038 [13:08] <malregima> do i have to buy to play on mutiplayer?
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#1045 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> malregima: Yes. Yes you do.
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#1047 [13:47] <malregima> mmk
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#1050 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> scott: Not sure if you're in the market for one, but Woot has a 32GB Class 10 SDHC card for $30 today.
#1051 [13:52] <aetherian> o.o
#1052 [13:52] <aetherian> heh
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#1055 [13:59] <greken> hi is this the Minecraft help chat?
#1056 [14:02] <xolotl> greken: You, um, might want to take a look at either the topic, or the name of the channel itself.
#1057 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> go go gadget wrong channel.
#1058 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> but yeah, I guess some nerds in here might also be interested in that SD card. :p
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#1060 [14:12] <greken> well
#1061 [14:12] <greken> anyone know if Nether is possible in Multiplayer?
#1062 [14:12] <greken> i have my own server but cant get nether to work
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#1064 [14:14] <Zemedelphos> greken
#1065 [14:15] <Zemedelphos> You currently cannot go o the nether in multiplayer due to how it's handled
#1066 [14:15] <Zemedelphos> but you can change a key in server.properties to make it a "hellworld"
#1067 [14:15] <Zemedelphos> Basically, it just gives you a red sky with a nether-like lighting
#1068 [14:15] <Zemedelphos> I'm not sure if enemy spawns change, though.
#1069 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> Zemedelphos: Yes, there are ghasts. Also, when I tried that on my server, it didn't just make the world helly, it generated new terrain that was stored separately.
#1070 [14:17] <Zemedelphos> Oh, did it?
#1071 [14:17] <Zemedelphos> I've never really used it
#1072 [14:17] <Zemedelphos> Mostly because even when I connect to my own server, i lag.
#1073 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> Zemedelphos: ProTip: don't run the server and client at the same time on the same machine.
#1074 [14:24] <Zemedelphos> Protip: I have only 1 computer :p
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#1076 [14:25] <Zemedelphos> There are 2 others in the house, but mine's by far the fastest.
#1077 [14:25] <Zemedelphos> Plus I don't want to bother with getting their local IP addresses. Or whatnot.
#1078 [14:25] <Zemedelphos> Only reason I have this server is for a challenge someone gave me
#1079 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> Zemedelphos: Look at it this way: The server needs 1GiB. The Client needs 1 GiB also. The OS needs probably 2 GiB assuming Windows Vista or Seven. How much RAM has your computer got?
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#1081 [14:27] <Zemedelphos> Exactly 3 gigs
#1082 [14:27] <Zemedelphos> :P
#1083 [14:28] <Zemedelphos> TBQH though, I get less lag on my own server than I do connecting to my friend's
#1084 [14:28] <Zemedelphos> I get a 90 second lag on h is.
#1085 [14:28] <Zemedelphos> his*
#1086 [14:28] <Zemedelphos> I counted it
#1087 [14:31] * DopeGhoti blinks.
#1087 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> Nickspam much?
#1088 [14:32] <Zemedelphos> Sorry about that
#1089 [14:33] <Zemedelphos> Couldn't remember which nick I had linked
#1090 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> Zemedelphos: for future reference: /msg nickserv LISTLINKS
#1091 [14:36] <Zemedelphos> I wasn't even aware of the linking feature until last week
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#1093 [14:36] <Zemedelphos> :p
#1094 [14:36] <austin1879> hello
#1095 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> austin1879: Salutations
#1096 [14:36] <austin1879> wut?
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#1098 [14:37] <austin1879> Does any1 know the mobspawner class file name
#1099 [14:37] <austin1879> i need to edit it
#1100 [14:37] <Zemedelphos> Salutations. It's a greeting
#1101 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> ..there is no 'u' in 'what'.
#1102 [14:37] <austin1879> ...
#1103 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> Also, this is not a modding support channel.
#1104 [14:37] <austin1879> i was told to ask here
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#1106 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> Also also, there's a _reason_ the source is obfuscated, which is to prevent exactly what you're trying to do.
#1107 [14:37] <Yoshi> O.O
#1108 [14:38] <Yoshi> Another mc channel xD
#1109 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> Morning, Yoshi.
#1110 [14:38] <austin1879> wut
#1111 [14:38] <austin1879> what*
#1112 [14:38] <austin1879> my mob spawners are crashing me
#1113 [14:38] <Yoshi> Evening, Dope
#1114 [14:38] <Zemedelphos> O.o
#1115 [14:39] <Yoshi> Sooooo, why do my boats disappear in my water elevator? D=
#1116 [14:39] <Zemedelphos> Last time I remember mob spawners crashed people was when notch gave signs and spawners the same ID or whatnot
#1117 [14:39] <Yoshi> They keep going
#1118 [14:39] <Yoshi> and once I reload my world they are still there
#1119 [14:39] <Yoshi> And soon they are poof xD
#1120 [14:39] * Zemedelphos shrugs
#1120 [14:40] <Yoshi> D=
#1121 [14:40] <Yoshi> And my forest near my spawn burned down somehow xD
#1122 [14:41] <Yoshi> Never created a fire, but it's burned down :P
#1123 [14:41] <Yoshi> Somehow lava pit near it too :/
#1124 [14:42] <Zemedelphos> That's how it burned down
#1125 [14:42] <Zemedelphos> A lava pit was generated too close to a tree
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#1127 [14:44] <Yoshi> How can lava burn a forest down O.O
#1128 [14:44] <Yoshi> Trees inside lava? x]
#1129 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> Lava creates embers. Embers set one tree on fire. Flaming tree burns down forest. In the house that Jack built.
#1130 [14:45] <Yoshi> Sucks, as I'm finally getting on the right way, now wanting to restart
#1131 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> We'll never know why she swallowed the fly; I guess she'll die.
#1132 [14:45] <Yoshi> :\
#1133 [14:45] <Yoshi> Someone told me embers do nothing x]
#1134 [14:45] <Teth0ruX> German here, who can cerate a linux MC Server?
#1135 [14:45] <Yoshi> Earlier I tried to dodge embers :P
#1136 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> Someone lied to you.
#1137 [14:45] <Zemedelphos> Actually, the embers don't cause any flames
#1138 [14:45] <greken> so what you say about nether is that" portal make hellworld??
#1139 [14:45] <Zemedelphos> Or damage
#1140 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> Zemedelphos: You, sir, are incorrect.
#1141 [14:46] <greken> or will all be hellworld?
#1142 [14:46] <Yoshi> They don't damage right?
#1143 [14:46] <Zemedelphos> Just any easily flamable block within 3 blocks of lava will catch fire
#1144 [14:46] <Yoshi> Or do stuff to human
#1145 [14:46] <Zemedelphos> Dope. I've been near embers. They're jsut for effect.
#1146 [14:46] <Zemedelphos> just*
#1147 [14:46] <Yoshi> Great, now I've got an ugly forest
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#1149 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> Yoshi: Embers can set humans and other flammable objects afire.
#1150 [14:46] <Yoshi> Also human? O_O
#1151 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> Zemedelphos: You. Are. Wrong.
#1152 [14:47] <KillSpammer> Wut DopeGhoti?
#1153 [14:47] <Zemedelphos> I've experienced them. They've done nothing at all.
#1154 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> KillSpammer: There is no 'u' in 'what'.
#1155 [14:47] <KillSpammer> Pigs can set things on fire?
#1156 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> KillSpammer: Whi said anything about pigs?
#1157 [14:47] <KillSpammer> I've never seen embers set things on fire though.
#1158 [14:47] <greken> About Nether in MP there is non but you can switch in server so that the world will be hellworld?? but netherworld will not be the hellworld??
#1159 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> KillSpammer: I have.
#1160 [14:47] <KillSpammer> greken switch to normal and remove your current world folder.
#1161 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> Repeatedly.
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#1163 [14:48] <Zemedelphos> Greken: You can make it so that you have a hellworld instead of a normal world. It won't be the nether, it'll be a hellish overworld
#1164 [14:48] <KillSpammer> Oh
#1165 [14:48] <Yoshi> Pff I hate lava lake xD
#1166 [14:48] <KillSpammer> Lol I thought he was asking how to fix it.
#1167 [14:48] <greken> yeah well i want my world as it is but i want to go and get stuff from hellworl/nether
#1168 [14:48] <Zemedelphos> You can't go to the nether
#1169 [14:48] <KillSpammer> Greken, it won't change the terrain
#1170 [14:48] <greken> i know
#1171 [14:48] <Yoshi> Any way to generate a map with a lot of snow, and where it's actually snowing?
#1172 [14:48] <Yoshi> Just without biomes
#1173 [14:48] <KillSpammer> Will only allow mobs and no water in your world
#1174 [14:48] <Yoshi> And with all updates/recources xD
#1175 [14:48] <Zemedelphos> If you really need netherrack, soulsand, or glowstone, just spawn it in the console
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#1177 [14:49] <KillSpammer> Yoshi moddified generator?
#1178 [14:49] <greken> y seems like that will be the case
#1179 [14:49] <Yoshi> Never heard of that :P
#1180 [14:49] <KillSpammer> Well of course you haven't.
#1181 [14:49] <Yoshi> :P
#1182 [14:49] <KillSpammer> I mean a mod that moddifys the map generator
#1183 [14:49] <KillSpammer> Forums :P
#1184 [14:50] <Yoshi> So it can also let the snowing system work again?
#1185 [14:50] <Strokemaster> Is minecraft woth the 15 euro´s? thinking about buying it.
#1186 [14:50] <Yoshi> I love that :P
#1187 [14:50] <Strokemaster> worth*
#1188 [14:50] <Yoshi> Depends what you like :P
#1189 [14:50] <Strokemaster> yeah i guess
#1190 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> Strokemaster: In the opinion of the majority of people in this channel, yes, probably. Next will you be going to #PriusChat and asking if hybrids are good card?
#1191 [14:51] <KillSpammer> Strokemaster No its not, you will get overly addicted too it thus playing it at work getting you fired than your wife kicks you out then you scab with your last dollars to get into an internet cafe to play it for your last 4 hours of life.
#1192 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> er, cars.
#1193 [14:51] <Yoshi> lol
#1194 [14:51] <Yoshi> Really, depends what you like
#1195 [14:51] <Strokemaster> yeah, kinda stupid question to ask here isn´t it haha,
#1196 [14:52] <Zemedelphos> Strokemaster Yes it is. It showed me the true meaning of life. I know now that the world we live in is fake. Have you noticed all the things that are round in the world?
#1197 [14:52] <Yoshi> I love to create advanced meganisms with cards, lava, water etc.
#1198 [14:52] <Zemedelphos> Totally fake!
#1199 [14:52] <Yoshi> Redstone <3
#1200 [14:52] <Yoshi> Railroads..
#1201 [14:52] <Yoshi> Coasters xD
#1202 [14:52] <Yoshi> And a stong base (A)
#1203 [14:52] <Yoshi> I love peacefull mode, then setting to normal once I made a 'fine' base
#1204 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> Yoshi: what's the challenge in that?
#1205 [14:53] <Zemedelphos> I play on hard the whole time :D
#1206 [14:53] <Yoshi> Not really into fighting
#1207 [14:53] <Zemedelphos> Only time I turn peaceful on is if I lose something far from my spawn point, or die more than twice
#1208 [14:53] <Yoshi> DopeGhoti: Indeed, you like fighting and going out
#1209 [14:53] <Yoshi> I don't
#1210 [14:53] <Yoshi> Everyone got it's own style of playing
#1211 [14:53] <Yoshi> and I like mine
#1212 [14:53] <Yoshi> Something wrong with that?
#1213 [14:54] <Zemedelphos> Yes. (trollface.jpg)
#1214 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: If you're going to kill monsters by pouring magma on them, don't do it if the building you're standing on is made of wood.
#1215 [14:54] <KillSpammer> Yeah DopeGhoti you playcist!
#1216 [14:54] <Yoshi> Epic of minecraft is that you can actually create your own playing style
#1217 [14:54] <Zemedelphos> Protip: If you're going to kill monsters by pouring magma on them, don't do it if the building you're standing on is made of wood. Unless someone else built it. Then go ahead and do it, you griefer! :D
#1218 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> Yoshi: I didn't say or mean to imply that anything is wrong with your preferred style of play. I just asked where the challenge was.
#1219 [14:55] <KillSpammer> His challenge is...
#1220 [14:55] <Yoshi> DopeGhoti: Indeed, defending my base greatly, having my systems work, monster traps working
#1221 [14:55] <Yoshi> That is my challenge
#1222 [14:55] <Yoshi> Getting advanced systems work :D
#1223 [14:56] <Yoshi> DopeGhoti: And make your base out of cloth, not wood, way better.
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#1226 [15:01] <Teth0ruX> When I start the Bukkit mod with Permission and Generad Plugin, i get SEVERE: Could not load plugins/Permissions.jar in plugins: null
#1227 [15:01] <Teth0ruX> Can someone help me?
#1228 [15:03] <Zemedelphos> This channel doesn't support mods.
#1229 [15:03] <Zemedelphos> The Official MineCraft help channel! For all your questions about the core-game made by Notch! <---MOTD
#1230 [15:04] <Teth0ruX> Oh okay... what is the server channel?
#1231 [15:04] <Zemedelphos> Server channel?
#1232 [15:04] <Zemedelphos> I do know you can try bukkit's channel
#1233 [15:05] <Teth0ruX> Okay...
#1234 [15:05] <Yoshi> #minecraftserverhelpservereloadserrors
#1235 [15:05] <Zemedelphos> Yoshi, please don't confuse him.
#1236 [15:05] <Teth0ruX> :P
#1237 [15:05] <Yoshi> Do I confuse? O_O
#1238 [15:05] <Zemedelphos> What? I'm confused.
#1239 [15:06] <Zemedelphos> :P
#1240 [15:06] <Yoshi> Indeed, I confused you, not teth
#1241 [15:06] <Yoshi> Wow that's confusing
#1242 [15:06] <Zemedelphos> Just saying. It was a bit uncalled for. And spelled wrong.
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#1244 [15:07] <Yoshi> indeed. Fix: #minecraftserverhelpsevereloaderrors
#1245 [15:07] <Yoshi> Sorry teth for the confusion, fixed it
#1246 [15:07] <Yoshi> :D
#1247 [15:07] <Zemedelphos> lol
#1248 [15:07] <Teth0ruX> Thanks :D
#1249 [15:07] <Yoshi> You're welcome :D
#1250 [15:08] <Zemedelphos> Aww, he didn't actually go there.
#1251 [15:08] <Zemedelphos> It'd have been funny.
#1252 [15:10] <Yoshi> xD
#1253 [15:10] <Yoshi> Let's not-confuse other players next.
#1254 [15:10] <Yoshi> To existing channels with meh :D
#1255 [15:11] <Yoshi> Now I'm confused due the dumb boats who want to disappear
#1256 [15:11] <Zemedelphos> Is this in single or multi?
#1257 [15:11] <Yoshi> Like this
#1258 [15:11] <Yoshi> http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2495/20110206204355.png
#1259 [15:11] <Yoshi> -.-
#1260 [15:11] <Yoshi> Single
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#1262 [15:12] <Zemedelphos> That's just a grey block...
#1263 [15:12] <Yoshi> Boat glitched into the roof with me..
#1264 [15:12] <Yoshi> So I died xD
#1265 [15:12] <Zemedelphos> Oh
#1266 [15:12] <Yoshi> see health
#1267 [15:12] <Yoshi> The droppings where inside the roof :S
#1268 [15:12] <Zemedelphos> I've never made a boat elevator
#1269 [15:12] <Zemedelphos> I find it easier to just use ladders
#1270 [15:12] <Yoshi> I made a trap-boat-elevator
#1271 [15:12] <Yoshi> Great for online
#1272 [15:13] <Yoshi> Me too
#1273 [15:13] <Yoshi> But I like complicated stuff :P
#1274 [15:13] <Yoshi> This is actually faster, if it works
#1275 [15:13] <Zemedelphos> I'm thinking of making a water ladder soon
#1276 [15:13] <Yoshi> but now I abandon the place where I just completed the elevator xD
#1277 [15:13] <Yoshi> Fully explored the caves there
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#1279 [15:14] <Zemedelphos> I'm currently mining the crap out of a hill
#1280 [15:14] <Zemedelphos> I 2*2 spiraled to bedrock
#1281 [15:14] <Zemedelphos> Went up 5 meters
#1282 [15:14] <Zemedelphos> and am currently branch mining it out
#1283 [15:14] <Yoshi> Yesterday..
#1284 [15:14] <Yoshi> I was happely mining around :D
#1285 [15:15] <Zemedelphos> the one where you make 2*x corridors as far a possible and branch off through the right wall
#1286 [15:15] <Yoshi> Then I broke some block open
#1287 [15:15] <Yoshi> And lava flew to me
#1288 [15:15] <Yoshi> Blocking my ladder -.-
#1289 [15:15] <Zemedelphos> Lol
#1290 [15:15] <Yoshi> I locked myself up with cobblestone
#1291 [15:15] <Zemedelphos> I always keep dirt or cobble on hand to block off lava
#1292 [15:15] <Yoshi> Inside a 2x2x3 hole
#1293 [15:15] <Yoshi> Locked.
#1294 [15:15] <Yoshi> Great
#1295 [15:15] <Yoshi> With a smexy torch
#1296 [15:15] <Yoshi> Then I opened another hole
#1297 [15:15] <Yoshi> More lava D=
#1298 [15:16] <Yoshi> Then I tried the way above me
#1299 [15:16] <Yoshi> Gravel -.0-
#1300 [15:16] <Yoshi> Once I removed the gravel..
#1301 [15:16] <Yoshi> Water :\
#1302 [15:16] <relsqui> hahaha
#1303 [15:16] <Yoshi> Anyway, swom up there
#1304 [15:16] <Yoshi> Came to an air-spot
#1305 [15:16] <Yoshi> Added a ladder piece there
#1306 [15:16] <Yoshi> Dug one block on
#1307 [15:16] <Yoshi> More gravel -.-
#1308 [15:16] <relsqui> you're getting all the love today
#1309 [15:17] <Zemedelphos> Lol
#1310 [15:17] <Yoshi> Then I dug a staircase upwards somewhere
#1311 [15:17] <Yoshi> Getting around 50 Y
#1312 [15:17] <Yoshi> Dug on
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#1314 [15:17] <Yoshi> Oehhh lava lake -.-
#1315 [15:17] <Yoshi> Cobble ftw
#1316 [15:17] <Yoshi> Then dug another way out
#1317 [15:17] <Yoshi> Then I landed in my burned down forest :D
#1318 [15:17] <Zemedelphos> Most of my...I think it's the southern branch...so western mines are all blocked off by lava at the end.
#1319 [15:17] <Yoshi> and happely going back home.
#1320 [15:18] <Yoshi> Along with 6 diamonds by the way xD
#1321 [15:18] <Zemedelphos> So my western corridor is going to be relatively short
#1322 [15:18] <Zemedelphos> as well as most of my western mines
#1323 [15:18] <Zemedelphos> Eh, I'll figure out direction later
#1324 [15:18] <Yoshi> I love situations where I'm blocked in xD
#1325 [15:18] <Yoshi> But sometimes it's getting a bit crazy
#1326 [15:18] <Yoshi> x]
#1327 [15:19] * Zemedelphos is watching yogscast
#1327 [15:20] <Yoshi> Time for a new world.
#1328 [15:20] <Zemedelphos> Why?
#1329 [15:20] <Yoshi> actually I don't want to start a new world
#1330 [15:20] <Zemedelphos> I regret deleting my 3rd world :(
#1331 [15:20] <Yoshi> but the one I've got now got a burned down forest near my base
#1332 [15:20] <Zemedelphos> And my second
#1333 [15:20] <Yoshi> Or still burning
#1334 [15:20] <Zemedelphos> Just cut it all down and replant
#1335 [15:20] <Yoshi> Nice idea :P
#1336 [15:20] <Yoshi> Do you help me?
#1337 [15:21] <Yoshi> x]
#1338 [15:21] <Zemedelphos> It's single player
#1339 [15:21] <Teth0ruX> Germans here?
#1340 [15:21] <Yoshi> http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6707/20110207183704.png Help the cow!
#1341 [15:21] <Yoshi> so what :P
#1342 [15:21] <Zemedelphos> What texture pack is that?
#1343 [15:21] <Yoshi> best texture pack ever
#1344 [15:21] <Yoshi> Clean design pack
#1345 [15:22] <Zemedelphos> I don't like it too much
#1346 [15:22] <Zemedelphos> It's colorful, but
#1347 [15:22] <Yoshi> I'm also searching for another one
#1348 [15:22] <Yoshi> It has to be clean
#1349 [15:22] <Yoshi> but not too clean
#1350 [15:22] <Yoshi> piepack or so is nice
#1351 [15:22] <Zemedelphos> Shoot, I played computer games with better graphics than that in 1995
#1352 [15:22] <Yoshi> But the stone is boring :\
#1353 [15:23] <Yoshi> What does fancy graphics actually do?
#1354 [15:23] <Yoshi> I see no anti alias
#1355 [15:23] <Zemedelphos> Lol
#1356 [15:23] <Zemedelphos> Fancy graphics gives 3d clouds
#1357 [15:23] <Zemedelphos> and leaves have alpha
#1358 [15:23] <Kealper> and see-through leaves
#1359 [15:23] <Kealper> and a few other tweeks
#1360 [15:24] <Yoshi> uhhh
#1361 [15:25] <Yoshi> Don't normal leaves got transparency too ? xD
#1362 [15:25] <Zemedelphos> fast graphic leaves get black instead of transparency
#1363 [15:26] <Zemedelphos> So you get [l][b][l][l][b][l]
#1364 [15:26] <Zemedelphos> or something like that
#1365 [15:26] <Yoshi> orrly?
#1366 [15:26] <Yoshi> let's try
#1367 [15:26] <Zemedelphos> Yarly
#1368 [15:27] <Yoshi> cool xD
#1369 [15:27] <Yoshi> and my boat is still there :P
#1370 [15:30] <relsqui> Yoshi: that texture pack is cute. it's cartoony, even for mc :)
#1371 [15:30] * Kealper likes his own texture pack
#1371 [15:30] <Yoshi> indeed, I like it, it's clean and not too clean
#1372 [15:30] <Yoshi> And 16x16 :D
#1373 [15:30] <Zemedelphos> I've been thinking about making a 16x16
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#1375 [15:31] <Squattle> D:
#1376 [15:31] <Zemedelphos> I want to use Doku's, but he doesn't work on it any more
#1377 [15:31] <Squattle> Heeeelp
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#1379 [15:31] <Kealper> o.o
#1380 [15:31] <Sivik> hello all
#1381 [15:31] <Kealper> ello
#1382 [15:31] <Zemedelphos> Hi Squattle
#1383 [15:31] <Yoshi> I need to make a furnace room
#1384 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> Squattle: Be more specific?
#1385 [15:31] <Yoshi> Got a lot of iron to smelt :D
#1386 [15:31] <Sivik> Can someone verify they can access a mincraft server via stronghall.dyndns.org please?
#1387 [15:31] <Squattle> You ever had a problem with placing and clicking objects? My right click doesn't seem to work :/
#1388 [15:31] <Zemedelphos> Also, there's 3 less "e"'s in help than you used.
#1389 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> !check stronghall.dyndns.org
#1390 [15:32] <Squattle> which is.. quite an issue :'
#1391 [15:32] <Zemedelphos> Well
#1392 [15:32] <Sivik> DopeGhoti, what was that for?
#1393 [15:32] <Zemedelphos> Sometimes, My rightclick starts spamming
#1394 [15:32] <Sivik> Did it do a test?
#1395 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Sivik: Yes.
#1396 [15:32] <Zemedelphos> But that's cause I have a wireless mouse
#1397 [15:32] <Sivik> DopeGhoti, so it connected fine?
#1398 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Sivik: Yes.
#1399 [15:32] <Sivik> DopeGhoti, awesome
#1400 [15:32] <Squattle> I'm also getting java errors.
#1401 [15:32] <Sivik> DopeGhoti, thx
#1402 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Sivik: Yes.
#1403 [15:32] <Squattle> when I quit the game
#1404 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Sivik: You're welcome.
#1405 [15:32] <Zemedelphos> I also connected fine
#1406 [15:32] <Squattle> I think the two may be linked.
#1407 [15:33] <Zemedelphos> You sure your mouse isn't bugged up?
#1408 [15:33] <Zemedelphos> or broken
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#1410 [15:33] <Squattle> well I mean I can use my right click outside of the game so yeah I think so
#1411 [15:33] <]Phi[> Hi! Another question:
#1412 [15:33] <]Phi[> is there a trick,tipp,option to find your cave/self build home, after u die?
#1413 [15:33] <Zemedelphos> Hi
#1414 [15:34] <Zemedelphos> Uh
#1415 [15:34] <]Phi[> set a new respawn or something?
#1416 [15:34] <Zemedelphos> Yeah.
#1417 [15:34] <Zemedelphos> No
#1418 [15:34] <Zemedelphos> Just build a sort of tower, and put a light source at top
#1419 [15:34] <Zemedelphos> Build it near your home
#1420 [15:34] <Zemedelphos> Also, keep markers on trails if you get lost easily
#1421 [15:34] <]Phi[> so its pretty .... uncool to build your home far away from the first spawn?
#1422 [15:35] <Zemedelphos> It's all right
#1423 [15:35] <Zemedelphos> Just make sure you have a way to get back if you die
#1424 [15:35] <Squattle> Right click works in the inventory screen, just not in the game screen
#1425 [15:35] <Zemedelphos> My current house is a little ways away
#1426 [15:35] <Zemedelphos> But I can easily find it due to remembering landmarks
#1427 [15:35] <]Phi[> and i will always start at the same spot?
#1428 [15:35] <Zemedelphos> I get lost in large caves, easily though.
#1429 [15:35] <Zemedelphos> You do
#1430 [15:35] <Zemedelphos> the spawn point is THE spawn point
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#1432 [15:35] <]Phi[> the can be only one ;)
#1433 [15:36] <]Phi[> there
#1434 [15:36] <]Phi[> ok
#1435 [15:36] <Zemedelphos> So yeah
#1436 [15:36] <Zemedelphos> Just try to build a tower or something somewhere
#1437 [15:36] <Zemedelphos> Put a light source at the top
#1438 [15:36] <Zemedelphos> Like a torch or a jack-o-lantern
#1439 [15:36] <]Phi[> i think i lost my home :( will not made that mistake again
#1440 [15:36] <Squattle> guess I'll just.. get a refund then -_-
#1441 [15:36] <Zemedelphos> Another thing you can do
#1442 [15:36] <Squattle> thanks for the help
#1443 [15:36] <Zemedelphos> is make it so you can climb the tower
#1444 [15:36] <Zemedelphos> squattle
#1445 [15:36] <Zemedelphos> dammit
#1446 [15:37] <Zemedelphos> I was gonna say, try updating java...
#1447 [15:37] <Zemedelphos> any way phi
#1448 [15:37] <Zemedelphos> Try building a staircase or ladder on the tower
#1449 [15:37] <Zemedelphos> so you can get a good veiw of everything near it
#1450 [15:37] <Zemedelphos> and put lighting on top of the caves and buildings
#1451 [15:37] <]Phi[> mhmmmm, i heard you can build tracks and a mining cart and so on
#1452 [15:37] <]Phi[> so i could just build tracks from spawn to home? :)
#1453 [15:38] <]Phi[> and hop in and RIDE home every time i die? :)
#1454 [15:38] <Zemedelphos> You could
#1455 [15:38] <Zemedelphos> build a track between
#1456 [15:38] <Zemedelphos> and put some cartboosters every so often to keep momentum
#1457 [15:38] <]Phi[> cartboosters?
#1458 [15:38] <Zemedelphos> There's currently a glitch
#1459 [15:38] <Yoshi> Yay
#1460 [15:38] <Zemedelphos> where if 2 cards run right next to each other
#1461 [15:38] <Zemedelphos> they both boost to maximum speed
#1462 [15:39] <Yoshi> My 'elevatordone' is done xD
#1463 [15:39] <Yoshi> kinda
#1464 [15:39] <Zemedelphos> So you just build a track alongside it that'll reset
#1465 [15:39] <Yoshi> Or at least it's roof
#1466 [15:39] <Zemedelphos> so when you pass it, you get a boost
#1467 [15:39] <Zemedelphos> you can even climb hills with boosters
#1468 [15:39] <Zemedelphos> look at the wiki for how to build them
#1469 [15:39] <]Phi[> ah, so i build two parallel tracks
#1470 [15:39] <]Phi[> and place a cart every 75m or so?
#1471 [15:40] <Zemedelphos> Yeah, you can test it to see how much momentum you can get out of one, then space it properyly
#1472 [15:40] <Zemedelphos> properly*
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#1474 [15:40] <Yoshi> dang
#1475 [15:41] <]Phi[> i will do :)
#1476 [15:41] <Yoshi> fell in a mine x]
#1477 [15:41] <]Phi[> damn, g2g to bed :/ but i will try it tomorrow :) thank you Zemedelphos
#1478 [15:41] <Zemedelphos> Yoshi: What a coincidence, I fell in a yours.
#1479 [15:41] <Zemedelphos> Good night
#1480 [15:41] <]Phi[> gn8
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#1482 [15:47] <Yoshi> Juhhh.....
#1483 [15:47] <Yoshi> Now, let's make fences xD
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#1489 [15:54] <Squattle> alright, it's not working, no one knows how to help. New question. Who do I send an email to for a refund? -_-
#1490 [15:55] <Zemedelphos> Hold on
#1491 [15:55] <Kealper> wait what
#1492 [15:55] <Kealper> what's going on?
#1493 [15:55] <Zemedelphos> Have you tried updating to the latest version of Java?
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#1495 [15:55] <Zemedelphos> Try that, and try to redownload the client.
#1496 [15:55] <Squattle> well no, but no one gave me that advice either.
#1497 [15:55] <Zemedelphos> You left right before I said it
#1498 [15:55] <Zemedelphos> Kealper: His right click won't work to use or place items.
#1499 [15:55] <Zemedelphos> It works in his inventory though
#1500 [15:56] <Squattle> You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 23).
#1501 [15:56] <Kealper> oh....that's....strange.....
#1502 [15:56] <Squattle> yeah it's infuriating
#1503 [15:56] <Zemedelphos> Try redownloading the client.
#1504 [15:57] <Squattle> :D!
#1505 [15:57] <Squattle> I LOVE YOU!
#1506 [15:58] <Zemedelphos> Did it work?
#1507 [15:58] <Squattle> now to just shut down the client and reopen to be suuurre.
#1508 [15:58] <Squattle> yes
#1509 [15:58] <Zemedelphos> Hahah
#1510 [15:58] <Kealper> what fixed it? reinstalling java? or the client?
#1511 [15:59] <Squattle> Yussssssssssssssssssssssssss.
#1512 [15:59] <Squattle> the client
#1513 [16:00] <Kealper> weird
#1514 [16:01] <Squattle> my computer does strange things.
#1515 [16:02] <ArmEagle> do the climbing spiders make a difference for mob traps (2 wide streams)?
#1516 [16:05] <Yoshi> lol
#1517 [16:05] <Yoshi> Minecraftwiki is copying and pasting quotes from Notch
#1518 [16:05] <Yoshi> So funny, that the wiki is a kinda stalker
#1519 [16:05] <Yoshi> xD
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#1521 [16:06] <Squattle> thanks for the fix <3
#1522 [16:07] <Lipsion> I have some problems on my server with latency. Anyone have som tips to get it to run smoother? :)
#1523 [16:07] <Zemedelphos> 1) Run it on a different machine from the one you play on.
#1524 [16:08] <Zemedelphos> 2) make sure it's the only thing running
#1525 [16:08] <Zemedelphos> 3) keep that machine defragged
#1526 [16:08] <Zemedelphos> That's all I got
#1527 [16:08] <Lipsion> ok thanks :P
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#1530 [16:14] <night98> how to i add commands to my server
#1531 [16:14] <Zemedelphos> Mods.
#1532 [16:14] <Zemedelphos> Which we don't support here
#1533 [16:14] <night98> ok
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#1535 [16:19] <Ami> Hello. I was curious if anyone could help me out with a small server question, I've been unable to find an answer in the forums and wanted to ask here before throwing up a post there.
#1536 [16:20] <Zemedelphos> Ask away
#1537 [16:22] <Ami> I've been able to run a server fine in most cases. Though I have a friend who can connect fine, but in game he's lagged to an almost unplayable point. Though he seems to be the only person who seems to be lagging. Currently I have myself and another person on the server and he's doing fine. We have the ports forwarded, we have a rather decent internet -
#1538 [16:22] <Ami> connection and we both have rather good PCs.
#1539 [16:22] <Kealper> what sort of lag? like everything he sees has already happened like 30 seconds ago or...?
#1540 [16:23] <Zemedelphos> Hmm.
#1541 [16:23] <Zemedelphos> I experience the same thing on my friend's server.
#1542 [16:23] <Zemedelphos> I'm the only one who gets this massive lag, that literally has delayed things as much as 90 seconds
#1543 [16:23] <Kealper> Ami: are you hosting off the same machine that you play on?
#1544 [16:24] <Ami> I know he mentioned a lot of rubber banding. The wiki says that there are some lag picking up items but they would take anywhere from a few seconds to a minute or two.
#1545 [16:25] <Ami> Normally. Though I experimented and he still has the same problems if I'm playing or not playing.
#1546 [16:25] <Kealper> hmm....just for craps and grins, try setting the server process to "Above normal" and have him join again
#1547 [16:26] <Ami> Would the server need to be restarted? Or no?
#1548 [16:26] <Kealper> no
#1549 [16:26] <Kealper> you know what i mean by that, right?
#1550 [16:26] <Kealper> setting the process priority through Task Manager
#1551 [16:26] <Ami> Yeah.
#1552 [16:27] <Ami> Going to jab him a few times to see if it works.
#1553 [16:29] <Kealper> hmm...also, has he tried any other servers?
#1554 [16:29] <Ami> Yep. A few and he runs fine. Just an issue with mine. He can connect but has the lag / rubber banding issues.
#1555 [16:30] <Ami> Have someone else on my server and he's doing perfectly fine.
#1556 [16:30] <Kealper> hmm....
#1557 [16:30] <Kealper> might be a connection between you and him that just sucks
#1558 [16:31] <Kealper> maybe a garbage note on one of the hops between you two :/
#1559 [16:31] <Kealper> node*
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#1561 [16:33] <Seiniyta> Hey
#1562 [16:33] <Ami> I have no clue what a garbage node is. o3o;
#1563 [16:33] <Seiniyta> my brother has the following issue, despite he has a valid account. he keeps getting "play online once to play offline" when he wants to log in
#1564 [16:33] <Seiniyta> anyone knows the solution?
#1565 [16:33] <Seiniyta> I tried to disable the firewall
#1566 [16:33] <Seiniyta> ddin't seem to help
#1567 [16:34] <Zemedelphos> Have someone log online real quick
#1568 [16:34] <Kealper> Ami: a node is a server that relays data between things, and a garbage one is one that is just.....not good...lol
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#1570 [16:36] <Seiniyta> *faccepalm, brother was thinking the way WoW log ins. (e-mail adress as user name) in minecraft it's just the user name
#1571 [16:37] <Kealper> xD
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#1573 [16:37] <feenyx> it's only a matter of time before we get account hackers, bots and gold sellers
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#1575 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> one out of three, feenyx, so far
#1576 [16:38] <feenyx> also, an expansion set in "space"
#1577 [16:38] <mib_uqwvr4> Hi, I am trying to run a minecraft server. I downloaded and ran the softwear for the server and it loaded and said it made the server. But where is the IP adress I use to log into?
#1578 [16:39] <Kealper> mib_uqwvr4: a classic server or beta server?
#1579 [16:39] <mib_uqwvr4> Beta.
#1580 [16:39] <feenyx> mib_uqwvr4: for yourself, you can just type "localhost"
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#1582 [16:39] <Kealper> for other people, you need to set up port forwarding, and give them your external ip
#1583 [16:40] <mib_uqwvr4> I should have mentioned. I am runing the server softwear on my laptop, but playing on my desktop PC
#1584 [16:41] <Kealper> mib_uqwvr4: then you use your laptop's lan ip
#1585 [16:41] <mib_uqwvr4> Oh thanks :D
#1586 [16:41] <feenyx> and turn off the windows firewall on the laptop
#1587 [16:41] <feenyx> just in case :)
#1588 [16:41] <mib_uqwvr4> Okay thank you for the tip, ill give that a try.
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#1591 [16:49] <Ami> Oh, would something like Tunngle be suggested to help get around that node? Or would it not help?
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#1594 [16:50] <relsqui> anyone know offhand why my custom avatar doesn't always load?
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#1598 [16:54] <the1mike1man> How do you register to the Official '#Minecraft IRC Channel?
#1599 [16:54] <the1mike1man> It's confusing :/
#1600 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> /ns register password email
#1601 [16:54] <the1mike1man> Cool, cheers.
#1602 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Then follow the instructions from there
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#1604 [16:55] <the1mike1man> Thanks
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#1614 [17:32] <Kealper> aubot ninjas chanserv so hard at auto op
#1615 [17:32] <FearItsSelf> can I get a little help
#1616 [17:32] <xales> FearItsSelf: What do you need help with?
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#1618 [17:33] <FearItsSelf> just trying to run a small minecraft server
#1619 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> What aspect of this do you require assistance with?
#1620 [17:34] <FearItsSelf> When I try to set the ip I just get java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind
#1621 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> (Also, it's "Fear Itself", not "Fear Its Self")
#1622 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> Sounds like there's already another MC server running on the same port.
#1623 [17:35] <relsqui> or something else
#1624 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> True.
#1625 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> Try setting a new port in the server.properties file, perhaps?
#1626 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> Or, see what might be running on port 25565.
#1627 [17:35] <xales> Or server-ip= is set wrong
#1628 [17:35] <FearItsSelf> Username argument aside... I already tried 2 ports but I'll try another
#1629 [17:35] <xales> (it should not be set at all)
#1630 [17:36] <xales> FearItsSelf: Did you put anything on the server-ip= line in server.properties?
#1631 [17:36] <FearItsSelf> I didn't at first but then we just got connection refused :/
#1632 [17:36] <FearItsSelf> using port 50500
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#1634 [17:37] <xales> The server-ip= line should be empty
#1635 [17:37] <xales> it should read only
#1636 [17:37] <xales> server-ip=
#1637 [17:37] <FearItsSelf> ya its empty
#1638 [17:38] <FearItsSelf> just get connection refused though
#1639 [17:38] <xales> What IP are you using to connect?
#1640 [17:38] <FearItsSelf> server goes up now without errors
#1641 [17:38] <FearItsSelf> public ip
#1642 [17:38] <xales> Did you port-forward?
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#1644 [17:38] <FearItsSelf> mhm
#1645 [17:38] <Ruggsy> what is a protocol error
#1646 [17:38] <xales> Do you have a firewall running?
#1647 [17:38] <Ruggsy> me?
#1648 [17:38] <FearItsSelf> duh
#1649 [17:38] <xales> Ruggsy: What error, specifically?
#1650 [17:38] <FearItsSelf> >.<
#1651 [17:38] <FearItsSelf> hold on lol
#1652 [17:38] <Ruggsy> nvm its fixed
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#1654 [17:39] <Oscuro> 123
#1655 [17:39] <Ruggsy> hes just messing with the server
#1656 [17:39] <xales> 456
#1657 [17:39] <Oscuro> hi
#1658 [17:39] <Oscuro> haha
#1659 [17:39] <Oscuro> ican't chat on the #minecraft channel :C
#1660 [17:39] <FearItsSelf> hmm ya still getting refused even with firewall switched off
#1661 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> /ns register password email
#1662 [17:39] <Oscuro> oooh I C
#1663 [17:40] <xales> FearItsSelf: Can you connect with your loopback address (127.0.0.1)?
#1664 [17:40] <Oscuro> you's watching mah ip?
#1665 [17:40] <xales> what?
#1666 [17:40] <FearItsSelf> nope
#1667 [17:40] <xales> FearItsSelf: The same error?
#1668 [17:40] <Oscuro> i'm trying to find the facebook minecraft's admin, someone knows where i can find him?
#1669 [17:41] <FearItsSelf> ya still connection refused
#1670 [17:41] <xales> FearItsSelf: Did you change the port?
#1671 [17:41] <FearItsSelf> ya the server isn't giving me an error anymore
#1672 [17:41] <FearItsSelf> just the game
#1673 [17:41] <xales> What port did you change it to?
#1674 [17:41] <FearItsSelf> 50500
#1675 [17:41] <xales> You need to connect using '127.0.0.1:50500'
#1676 [17:42] <Oscuro> hello?
#1677 [17:42] <FearItsSelf> thank you
#1678 [17:42] <FearItsSelf> tis working now
#1679 [17:42] <xales> Oscuro: I have no idea
#1680 [17:42] <Oscuro> :/ hmm the thing is
#1681 [17:42] <xales> FearItsSelf: If you don't want to have the :50500, change the port back to 25565 and restart the server
#1682 [17:42] <xales> then you can leave it off
#1683 [17:42] <Oscuro> I know the guy who produced fifa, might be interested
#1684 [17:43] <Oscuro> ...in producing minecraft...
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#1686 [17:43] <xales> I don't think contacting Mojang over Facebook would be the appropriate place to discuss that
#1687 [17:43] <xales> you should try email
#1688 [17:44] <Oscuro> :/ i need an informal chat at first hehe
#1689 [17:44] <xales> There isn't really an easy way to contact them, especially given the volume of people looking to contact them on places such as Facebook
#1690 [17:44] <xales> try emailing daniel@mojang.com
#1691 [17:44] <Oscuro> exactly
#1692 [17:44] <Oscuro> thanks!
#1693 [17:45] <xales> yup
#1694 [17:45] <Oscuro> :D i'm just a fan haha but i'm trying to get it to consoles using my connections : 3
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#1696 [17:45] <Oscuro> thx a bunch them i'm off to continue my quest
#1697 [17:45] <NYVGF> hey i need some help
#1698 [17:46] <xales> What do you need help with?
#1699 [17:46] <NYVGF> i just got my bank statement in the mail and i was charged twice for minecraft
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#1701 [17:46] <xales> Send an email to daniel@mojang.com (in the future: don't click the button so much - it doesn't just charge twice on it's own)
#1702 [17:47] <Oscuro> someon knows how much players are on minecraft's database?
#1703 [17:47] <Oscuro> just curiours
#1704 [17:47] <Oscuro> curious*
#1705 [17:47] <xales> Oscuro: http://minecraft.net/stats.jsp
#1706 [17:48] <Oscuro> :D hahaha i look like an annoying guy now
#1707 [17:49] <Oscuro> Hmmm i think this link alone might convince this guy
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#1716 [17:54] <pacu850> Hey, I've got a question.
#1717 [17:54] <Oscuro> "User not premium" what does that means?
#1718 [17:55] <pacu850> How do I change the e-mail my minecraft account is associated with?
#1719 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> pacu850 - You can't right now
#1720 [17:55] <pacu850> Really?
#1721 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Oscuro - Means your account hasn't been credited at the moment
#1722 [17:55] <pacu850> That's crap
#1723 [17:55] <pacu850> :l
#1724 [17:56] <NYVGF> xales: any idea how long it should take for him to get back to me?
#1725 [17:56] <Oscuro> credited
#1726 [17:56] <Oscuro> as in money
#1727 [17:56] <Oscuro> or awesomness?
#1728 [17:56] <pacu850> Both
#1729 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> As in, the payment hasn't been processed yet
#1730 [17:57] <Oscuro> :/ someday then when i get money hehe
#1731 [17:58] <xales> NYVGF: No idea, but it might take a few days
#1732 [17:58] <NYVGF> kk thanks
#1733 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> "when I get money" Weren't you just talking about "producing Minecraft" (whatever that's supposed to mean)?
#1734 [17:59] <Oscuro> i said i knew a guy who produces AAA games
#1735 [17:59] <Oscuro> who's not me
#1736 [18:00] <Oscuro> i'm just an average user with connections ;D
#1737 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> I.. see.
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#1739 [18:01] <Oscuro> yes, but that "stats" url will surely convince him it's profitable
#1740 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> I think that Notch is already aware of the profitability aspect of making popular games.
#1741 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> Just sayin'.
#1742 [18:02] <Oscuro> haha not notch
#1743 [18:02] <Oscuro> but he could expand the market
#1744 [18:02] <xales> The game isn't released yet, he isn't looking to maximize sales at the moment
#1745 [18:03] <Oscuro> ;D precisley
#1746 [18:03] <Oscuro> when the moment comes...
#1747 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> It just occurred to me to wonder how many sales MC will acheive once it's actually released.
#1748 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> (is anyone seriously waiting for the final release?)
#1749 [18:04] <Oscuro> just want to get to my xbox and play it
#1750 [18:04] <Kealper> what is this i don't even
#1751 [18:04] <xales> I can just say now, Minecraft can't be ported to xbox
#1752 [18:04] <xales> Java != work on xbox
#1753 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> ^this.
#1754 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> "Android, maybe." (:
#1755 [18:04] <Oscuro> producers = = ports
#1756 [18:04] <xales> Ports = rewrite = not going to happen
#1757 [18:05] <Oscuro> :/ i find your lack of faith disturbing
#1758 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> Producers == financiers. Developers == coders -> ports.
#1759 [18:06] <Kealper> and that would do what?
#1760 [18:06] <Kealper> or do you mean for noticing the channel?
#1761 [18:06] <Kealper> oh....that's cool...so in other words i look like i'm crazy right now
#1762 [18:06] <xales> yes
#1763 [18:06] <Kealper> ahh
#1764 [18:06] <Miclee> lol
#1765 [18:06] <Oscuro> put it simple, a nice big game company licences it, manages to increase de users, and that way gets enough resources to code it for consoles
#1766 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> Only to some.
#1767 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> You know what's nice about being an indie game developer? Not being beholden to Sony or Microsoft.
#1768 [18:07] <Oscuro> games == products
#1769 [18:08] <Miclee> Hrm.
#1770 [18:08] <Miclee> I'm bored.
#1771 [18:08] <Miclee> I should record my Let's Play soon.
#1772 [18:08] <xales> Play Minecraft
#1773 [18:08] <xales> :)
#1774 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> Miclee: how bad is the injury?
#1775 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> bore (v.): To peirce or drill a hole through.
#1776 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> s/ei/ie/
#1777 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> !def bore
#1778 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Oh, right, +c
#1779 [18:10] <Miclee> Stop all the notices.
#1780 [18:10] <Miclee> They keep making sound
#1781 [18:10] <xales> :P
#1782 [18:10] * DopeGhoti notices the complaint.
#1782 [18:11] <Miclee> I can't have notices going on if I'm recording a Let's Play.
#1783 [18:11] <xales> Miclee, just detach then :P
#1784 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> You can if you set yourself -v (:
#1785 [18:11] <xales> but we are done now
#1786 [18:11] <Kealper> owait! he can't!
#1787 [18:11] <xales> Kealper: chanserv
#1788 [18:11] * Miclee turns sound off for now.
#1788 [18:11] <Miclee> IRC sounds*
#1789 [18:11] <xales> chanserv devoice #minecrafthelp miclee
#1790 [18:11] <xales> :)
#1791 [18:11] <Kealper> oh, devoice...you said detach >.>
#1792 [18:11] <xales> can be done by vop
#1793 [18:11] <xales> detach
#1794 [18:12] <xales> he is using ZNC
#1795 [18:12] <mbentley> i was wondering where all of the terminal bells were coming from...
#1796 [18:12] <mbentley> lol
#1797 [18:12] <xales> lol
#1798 [18:12] <Kealper> oh, did he get sick of DCing? lol
#1799 [18:12] <xales> no, I gave it to him so he could use his domain
#1800 [18:12] <xales> (pigmenare.me)
#1801 [18:12] <Kealper> lol
#1802 [18:12] <xales> IPv6 \o/
#1803 [18:13] <Kealper> anywho....afk for an hour
#1804 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> ciao, Kealper
#1805 [18:13] <aetherian> lol
#1806 [18:13] <aetherian> yeah right
#1807 [18:16] <Lipsion> Need some tips on nice Admin tools, Im using Zicore's atm. Have anyone tried Hey0's server mod?
#1808 [18:17] <aetherian> er
#1809 [18:18] <xales> Hey0 isn't really being updated any more
#1810 [18:18] <Lipsion> ok
#1811 [18:18] <xales> I'd look at Bukkit, which works, but isn't released fully (yet)
#1812 [18:18] <Lipsion> ok will look it up thanks :)
#1813 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> Admin tools? I use ssh and screen.
#1814 [18:21] <xales> And cron
#1815 [18:22] <aetherian> heh
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#1818 [18:25] <aetherian> ugh, mccmp is down
#1819 [18:25] <aetherian> or at least the list is...
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#1821 [18:26] <OWN|Dids> Hi! I had some problems with my card, and got a friend to buy a gift code. But he didn't recieve the code yet, does it take long?
#1822 [18:27] <xales> It might take some time - have him check in his profile on minecraft.net, on the bottom of the page
#1823 [18:28] <OWN|Dids> Check in? I'm kind of lost
#1824 [18:30] <xales> Have your friend sign in on minecraft.net and go to his profile, and at the bottom of that page, the code will be listed there (if it isn't now, it will soon)
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#1826 [18:30] <OWN|Dids> Ok, thank you! :)
#1827 [18:31] <OWN|Dids> Just one more thing, he have tried to pay twice now, aproximatly 1 hour ago. Should he try again, or?
#1828 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1829 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Just have him wait a few horus
#1830 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> It'll be in his minecraft.net profile
#1831 [18:32] <OWN|Dids> Ok, thanks!
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#1833 [18:42] <Dragonaxe> Is there anyone who can tell me why i am getting an "Pixel format not accelerated" error when i try to play classic?
#1834 [18:42] <xales> Do you have the latest video card drivers installed?
#1835 [18:43] <Dragonaxe> yep first thing i tried
#1836 [18:43] <xales> What card is it?
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#1838 [18:43] <Rait> Ello.
#1839 [18:43] <xales> Hello
#1840 [18:43] <Dragonaxe> GeForce 9400 GT
#1841 [18:44] <Rait> Ha, what other programs are out there that i can connect to this, Mirc is almost over in a couple days
#1842 [18:44] <xales> Rait: You can continue to use mIRC after it 'expires' you just have to wait on the nagging screen for 60 seconds and click the 'continue' button
#1843 [18:44] <aetherian> no...
#1844 [18:44] <aetherian> yes, xal
#1845 [18:45] <xales> Dragonaxe: You sure you have the latest drivers from nvidia.com for that card?
#1846 [18:45] <Dragonaxe> double checking now jic
#1847 [18:47] <Rait> Xales: ha thanks
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#1850 [18:48] <Drezi> :/
#1851 [18:49] <xales> ?
#1852 [18:49] <aetherian> is it just me, or is the minecraft.net/servers.jsp awful up and down today
#1853 [18:49] <Dragonaxe> redownloading and reinstalling the latest driver, just to be sure
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#1855 [18:51] <Dragonaxe> doing a clean install right now hope thats all it was i did an quick instal last time
#1856 [18:51] <statik> Gamestop called, my copy of TDU2 will be there in the AM. w00t
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#1858 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> TDU?
#1859 [18:52] <SkiingPenguins> O_o there's more test drive games?
#1860 [18:52] <LatHans> hm.. WorldEdit/WorldGuard 3.2.2 seems to load before the Permissions v2.0 is loaded, so I need to reload the server to make worldedit/worldguard find the permission plugin
#1861 [18:53] <LatHans> funny
#1862 [18:53] <LatHans> hm.. this isn't the bukkit channel
#1863 [18:53] <LatHans> sorry:P
#1864 [18:53] * GreyVulpine snerks
#1864 [18:53] * LatHans hides
#1864 [18:56] * aetherian finds lathans
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#1866 [18:56] <bletch> Hey
#1867 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#1868 [18:57] <bletch> Anyone here that can help me?
#1869 [18:57] <SkiingPenguins> probably
#1870 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> In #MineCraftHelp? Nah.
#1871 [18:57] <bletch> I mean, sometimes people take over things like this and turn them into just regular chat rooms somtimes
#1872 [18:57] <bletch> Anyways
#1873 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> We don't do that here... help takes precedence over idle chatter.
#1874 [18:58] <bletch> I just bought a premium account and I downloaded Minecraft
#1875 [18:58] * Joblev [Joblev@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1876 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Okay, and it still doesn't say you're a premium account?
#1877 [18:58] <bletch> When I try logging in, it goes to a black screen, then tells me that my Drivers are bad
#1878 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Pixel format not accelerated?
#1879 [18:59] <bletch> I hear it's something to do with accelerators
#1880 [18:59] <Joblev> That's happened to me before
#1881 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to update your video drivers.
#1882 [18:59] <Joblev> Waaait no that was a completely different problem
#1883 [18:59] <bletch> In Device Manager, right?
#1884 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> No
#1885 [18:59] <Joblev> I accidentally deleted something in the minecraft.jar archive
#1886 [18:59] <bletch> I have nvidia geforce 6150se
#1887 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> If you've got a laptop, look at your laptop manufacturer
#1888 [18:59] <bletch> I have a PC
#1889 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> If you've got anything else, look at nvidia's site
#1890 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> for that
#1891 [19:00] <bletch> They give updates?
#1892 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Um, sure.
#1893 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> nvidia.com, download driver
#1894 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> s
#1895 [19:00] <bletch> Right now I'm trying to update from the Device Manager
#1896 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Don't do that
#1897 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Horrible way to update drivers
#1898 [19:00] <Joblev> Hey ummm
#1899 [19:00] <bletch> If it doesn't work, I'll take your advice
#1900 [19:01] <xales> Joblev: Delete the entire jarfile
#1901 [19:01] <xales> it will redownload
#1902 [19:01] <Joblev> Oh, I know
#1903 [19:01] <Joblev> I was actually playing on the alpha game
#1904 [19:01] <xales> Alpha? do you mean Classic?
#1905 [19:01] <Joblev> I'll tell you something xD
#1906 [19:01] <Joblev> NO I mean alpha
#1907 [19:01] <Joblev> This comes with a story!
#1908 [19:01] <xales> Alpha = doesn't exist any more
#1909 [19:02] <Joblev> I know
#1910 [19:02] <Joblev> I said "story" <.<
#1911 [19:02] <SkiingPenguins> that or you're crazy person
#1912 [19:02] <Joblev> We recently got a new computer, and as we did we were putting the old one in my room
#1913 [19:02] <Joblev> we got the internet hooked up AFTER they sent the bug out to make Alpha not work anymore
#1914 [19:03] <Joblev> so it still worked
#1915 [19:03] <Joblev> :P
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#1917 [19:03] <Joblev> Of course, I accidentally deleted it
#1918 [19:03] <Joblev> :c
#1919 [19:03] <xales> ._.
#1920 [19:03] <xales> buy it then
#1921 [19:03] <Joblev> But no harm since I'm buying it in some hours
#1922 [19:03] <Joblev> I've got money set and everything :D
#1923 [19:03] <xales> anyway
#1924 [19:03] * xales afk food
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#1925 [19:04] <Joblev> joblev afk food
#1926 [19:04] <Joblev> ..... how does he do that
#1927 [19:05] <aetherian> lol
#1928 [19:05] * aetherian wonders
#1928 [19:05] <Joblev> How does he do that?!
#1929 [19:05] <Joblev> ?!?!?!?!?! :O
#1930 [19:05] * aetherian doesn't know
#1930 [19:05] <Joblev> i hate those smileys
#1931 [19:05] <Joblev> -.-
#1932 [19:05] * SkiingPenguins loves -.- smilies
#1932 [19:05] <aetherian> say...
#1933 [19:06] <aetherian> you could probably change your nick to that
#1934 [19:06] <Joblev> Ok now you're just showin off
#1935 [19:06] <aetherian> maybe
#1936 [19:06] * aetherian isn't showing off
#1936 [19:06] * SkiingPenguins isnt either
#1936 [19:06] <Joblev> CMON
#1937 [19:06] <Joblev> >:O
#1938 [19:06] <Joblev> DANGIT SMILEYS
#1939 [19:06] * SkiingPenguins thinks you should chill out
#1939 [19:06] * aetherian does too
#1939 [19:06] <Joblev> Sorreh
#1940 [19:06] <Joblev> :L
#1941 [19:06] * SkiingPenguins is listening to Rob Zombie :)
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#1942 [19:07] * aetherian isn't listening to anything
#1942 [19:07] <Joblev> Seriously how can I do that <:c
#1943 [19:07] * aetherian shrugs
#1943 [19:07] <SkiingPenguins> google it
#1944 [19:07] <Joblev> Ugggh I don't wanna >_<
#1945 [19:07] * SkiingPenguins thinks you'll find it if you google it
#1945 [19:07] <Joblev> Joblev thinks he won't
#1946 [19:07] * Joblev i like pie
#1946 [19:07] <Joblev> Did that work?
#1947 [19:08] * Joblev Is it working?
#1947 [19:08] <Joblev> ....
#1948 [19:08] <Joblev> it isn't
#1949 [19:08] * aetherian says, "no, it isn't"
#1949 [19:09] <SkiingPenguins> you said Joblev
#1950 [19:09] <Joblev> I know...
#1951 [19:09] <Joblev> What should I google?
#1952 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> Joblev: not to pick a scab, but how does who do what exactly?
#1953 [19:09] <Joblev> I can't think of any good terms
#1954 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> Typing emoticons isn't exactly rocket surgery.
#1955 [19:09] <aetherian> aww
#1956 [19:09] <aetherian> it can't send to channel
#1957 [19:09] <Joblev> I know emoticons, durh
#1958 [19:09] <aetherian> darn +c
#1959 [19:09] <Miclee> You all bow before my hostmask.
#1960 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> there's no 'r' in 'duh'.
#1961 [19:10] <aetherian> wdf's with nonamescripts, anyway
#1962 [19:10] <Joblev> I know
#1963 [19:10] <Joblev> It's my word
#1964 [19:10] * SkiingPenguins uses nettalk
#1964 [19:10] <Joblev> "Dur-h"
#1965 [19:10] <Joblev> Skiing
#1966 [19:10] <Joblev> Please tell me
#1967 [19:11] <Joblev> Mibbit is new grounds for me
#1968 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> "Pronounced like 'drama' would be in you were punched in the gut just after you start speaking"?
#1969 [19:11] <Joblev> >_<
#1970 [19:11] <aetherian> .................
#1971 [19:11] <aetherian> mibbit...
#1972 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> gesubdheit.
#1973 [19:12] <Joblev> ..... gesubdheit?
#1974 [19:12] <Joblev> Spelling fail :P
#1975 [19:12] <aetherian> no
#1976 [19:12] <Joblev> DARN THE SMILEYS
#1977 [19:12] <Rait> Hey GreyVulpine, do you know anything about blocking a MAC address from a router?
#1978 [19:12] <Joblev> >_<
#1979 [19:12] <aetherian> he has hay feffer
#1980 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Rait, that depends on the router
#1981 [19:12] <aetherian> :) :) :) :) :)
#1982 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Look for mac address filtering
#1983 [19:12] <Rait> Lemme get on my router page, one sec.
#1984 [19:12] <Joblev> Aeth
#1985 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> Joblev: I hab a cod.e
#1986 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> er, code.
#1987 [19:13] <Joblev> How do you do the "I did this" thing?!
#1988 [19:13] * aetherian doesn't know
#1988 [19:13] <Joblev> <:C
#1989 [19:13] <aetherian> type /part
#1990 [19:13] <aetherian> then the message
#1991 [19:14] * Joblev [Joblev@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#1992 [19:14] * DopeGhoti thinks you should look into the basics of IRC.
#1992 [19:14] <aetherian> lol
#1993 [19:14] <SkiingPenguins> >.<
#1994 [19:14] * hatman [hatman@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1995 [19:14] * aetherian lulz
#1995 [19:14] * Joblev [Joblev@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1996 [19:14] <aetherian> that was just too good...
#1997 [19:14] <Rait> Greyvulpine: From what i can see i don't see anything about the mac address filtering.
#1998 [19:14] <Joblev> DARN YOU
#1999 [19:14] <aetherian> <3
#2000 [19:14] <Joblev> E>
#2001 [19:14] <Joblev> >=L
#2002 [19:14] * DopeGhoti thinks you should look into the basics of IRC, Joblev.
#2002 [19:14] <hatman> ok so is anyone else having issues with their mulitiplayer server?
#2003 [19:14] <aetherian> nonono
#2004 [19:15] <aetherian> joblev
#2005 [19:15] <aetherian> you use mirc?
#2006 [19:15] <Joblev> mirc?
#2007 [19:15] <aetherian> I mean mibbit
#2008 [19:15] <aetherian> darnit
#2009 [19:15] <Joblev> Yarsh
#2010 [19:15] <aetherian> on a mirc page >.>
#2011 [19:15] <aetherian> anyway
#2012 [19:15] * NeverCast [NeverCast@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2013 [19:15] <aetherian> to get a list of commands
#2014 [19:15] * DopeGhoti wonders what hatman's problem is.
#2014 [19:15] <hatman> so no one is having issues with their servers?
#2015 [19:15] <hatman> haha
#2016 [19:15] <aetherian> hold down the alt button, and press the f4 button
#2017 [19:15] <Joblev> Shut up
#2018 [19:15] <Joblev> -_-
#2019 [19:15] <hatman> stfu aeth
#2020 [19:15] <NeverCast> ^
#2021 [19:15] * aetherian laughs
#2021 [19:16] <Joblev> Stop that
#2022 [19:16] <Joblev> .....
#2023 [19:16] <hatman> sorry
#2024 [19:16] <NeverCast> aetherian is right. Alt+F4 fixes a lot of problems.
#2025 [19:16] * aetherian says, "yes, yes it does.
#2025 [19:16] <hatman> java.lang.NullPointerException is my problem
#2026 [19:16] <NeverCast> hatman, got a stack trace?
#2027 [19:16] <Joblev> Never, seriously, i didn't learn about the internet 7 minutes ago...
#2028 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> hatman: classic or Beta?
#2029 [19:16] <hatman> beta
#2030 [19:16] <Joblev> Alpha
#2031 [19:16] <Joblev> :P
#2032 [19:16] <Joblev> ....
#2033 [19:16] <Joblev> No seriously I played alpha yesterday
#2034 [19:16] <NeverCast> Joblev, I'm being serious. Sometimes a program just needs a restart :P
#2035 [19:17] <hatman> 1.2_02
#2036 [19:17] <aetherian> joblev, type ctrl+w to get it to work
#2037 [19:17] <Joblev> No
#2038 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> Joblev: on some clients, ctrl-W will put you into emote mode.
#2039 [19:17] <aetherian> yes
#2040 [19:17] <Joblev> I haz no trust
#2041 [19:17] <aetherian> on some clients
#2042 [19:17] <NeverCast> hatman, Do you have the whole stack trace?
#2043 [19:17] <aetherian> you got it from a voiced
#2044 [19:17] <aetherian> what more do you want
#2045 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> hatman: what is your minecraft username, please?
#2046 [19:17] <hatman> says i am missing some source files
#2047 [19:18] <hatman> tried redownloading minecraft but that didnt fix it
#2048 [19:18] <NeverCast> Source files? Since when was MC sourced? O.o
#2049 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> hatman: what is your minecraft account name, please?
#2050 [19:18] <hatman> haha idk
#2051 [19:18] <NeverCast> ^
#2052 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> You should know; you picked it.
#2053 [19:19] * Joblev knew he had it right the first time!!
#2053 [19:19] * aetherian doesn't see it
#2053 [19:19] * Joblev is angreh now!
#2053 [19:19] <NeverCast> Joblev is lying :P
#2054 [19:19] * aetherian still doesn't see it
#2054 [19:19] * DopeGhoti wonders what aetherian doesn't see.
#2054 [19:20] <NeverCast> aetherian: You seem like a wise character. Am I correct?
#2055 [19:20] * Joblev then why did you comment on it? If you can't see it why'd you comment on it?
#2055 [19:20] * aetherian doesn't see anything special about joblev's things
#2055 [19:20] <NeverCast> ^
#2056 [19:20] <NeverCast> lol.
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#2058 [19:20] <aetherian> nevercast: oh sure, I'm quite the wiseguy
#2059 [19:20] <Joblev> Well bye, might be back soon so I can buy minecraft :P
#2060 [19:20] * DopeGhoti wonders why aetherian is inspecting Joblev's "things" and why isn't not happening in #unfunfunf
#2060 [19:20] <NeverCast> Fuck it I'll just ask. Is notch still using the NBT format?
#2061 [19:20] <Joblev> bye
#2062 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> NeverCast: for now, yes.
#2063 [19:21] <NeverCast> DopeGhoti: He plans to change?
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#2065 [19:21] <hatman> [SEVERE] Unexpected exception java.lang.NullPointerException at gc.b(SourceFile:83)
#2066 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> There are plands for a less shotgun-styled approach to savefiles, yes
#2067 [19:21] <NeverCast> DopeGhoti: I'm working on a MC Toolkit so I was hoping on getting in the loop of formats that are currently in use.
#2068 [19:21] * DopeGhoti wonders if hatman will ever answer his query.
#2068 [19:21] <NeverCast> hatman, Do you have the stack trace? Any lines under that?
#2069 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> NeverCast: Watch notch's blog; I'm sure info will be posted there.
#2070 [19:21] <hatman> alot of them
#2071 [19:21] * NeverCast thinks that DopeGhoti is wasting his time getting a name out of hatman.
#2071 [19:22] <hatman> did notch do an update recently?
#2072 [19:22] <NeverCast> I also need to pull Notch up on an Instant Messenger session some time.. have a decent discussion.
#2073 [19:22] <NeverCast> hatman, I don't think so.. one sec
#2074 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> NeverCast: I'm sure you'll get a prompt reply.
#2075 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> There have been no updates for a while, not since the server transition.
#2076 [19:23] <NeverCast> I'm very interested in the path Minecraft is taking. I mean an API? That's brilliant
#2077 [19:23] <aetherian> is the server fully moved?
#2078 [19:23] <NeverCast> Best way to keep out hackers is give them something to mess with
#2079 [19:24] <NeverCast> Make them on your side so to speak.
#2080 [19:24] <aetherian> because... minecraft classic servers have been screwy
#2081 [19:24] <SkiingPenguins> give them enough freedom to sooth the addiction
#2082 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> 'course, the API doesn't exist, yet.
#2083 [19:24] <NeverCast> Not yet I know.
#2084 [19:24] <NeverCast> But the concept is there never the less
#2085 [19:24] <NeverCast> I mean the fact that he supports a modding community straight out of first dev release
#2086 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> indeed. And I have some neat mod ideas.
#2087 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> At least, I think they're neat.
#2088 [19:25] <aetherian> heh
#2089 [19:25] <NeverCast> Haha well I'm sure other people will like them also.
#2090 [19:25] <aetherian> lolno
#2091 [19:25] <NeverCast> :P
#2092 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> I still need to go learn Java so taht I can actually implement them :p
#2093 [19:25] <aetherian> see also: buggy games
#2094 [19:25] <NeverCast> Haha.
#2095 [19:25] <NeverCast> Yeah I know both Java and C# fluently
#2096 [19:26] <aetherian> not python?
#2097 [19:26] <NeverCast> I think the reason I like the API idea most is because I wont have to reverse engineer the client ha
#2098 [19:26] <NeverCast> aetherian: I know enough to use it occasionally. But it's over-rated.
#2099 [19:27] <aetherian> so you like complete custimization ability?
#2100 [19:27] <xales> wat
#2101 [19:27] <xales> complete customization != API
#2102 [19:27] <NeverCast> ^
#2103 [19:27] <NeverCast> Agreed.
#2104 [19:27] <aetherian> xales: sshhhh
#2105 [19:27] <hatman> well NeverCast thanks for helping
#2106 [19:27] <NeverCast> Lol, hatman I didn't help shit
#2107 [19:27] <NeverCast> hatman: You wouldn't answer my question
#2108 [19:27] <aetherian> nevercast: learn some machine language, that's totally not oeverrated
#2109 [19:28] <hatman> you were more helpful than the others
#2110 [19:28] <hatman> i tried PMing you but you never answered
#2111 [19:28] <NeverCast> aetherian: Well would you like me to use Intel ASM or AT&T asm?
#2112 [19:28] <aetherian> intel
#2113 [19:28] <aetherian> definitely
#2114 [19:28] <xales> ASM != machine code
#2115 [19:28] <NeverCast> Oh good, I hate the AT&T Architecture
#2116 [19:28] <aetherian> xales: it's a start
#2117 [19:28] <NeverCast> ASM is mnemonic for machine code
#2118 [19:28] <xales> ^
#2119 [19:28] <NeverCast> It's as close as you get without being a fuck tard.
#2120 [19:28] <aetherian> assembly...
#2121 [19:29] <NeverCast> Yes.
#2122 [19:29] <xales> Aetherian
#2123 [19:29] <xales> is a fuck tard
#2124 [19:29] <xales> :)
#2125 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> NeverCast: you should use APL.
#2126 [19:29] <aetherian> <3
#2127 [19:29] <NeverCast> ^ LOL
#2128 [19:29] <NeverCast> DopeGhoti: APL?
#2129 [19:29] <aetherian> well, firefox is officially breaking up
#2130 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> APL.
#2131 [19:29] <NeverCast> aetherian: Use chrome.
#2132 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: with whom?
#2133 [19:29] <NeverCast> LOL
#2134 [19:30] <aetherian> with the computer
#2135 [19:30] <NeverCast> Ha.
#2136 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> NeverCast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APL_(programming_language)
#2137 [19:30] <aetherian> they had such a good thing going on
#2138 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> literally called "A Programming Language"
#2139 [19:30] <aetherian> :o
#2140 [19:30] <aetherian> nonono
#2141 [19:30] <aetherian> use lolcode :p
#2142 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> lolcode is just a poorly disguised wrapper for GCC, as are most such novelty languages.
#2143 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: so, uh.. [citation needed].
#2144 [19:31] <NeverCast> lolcode is about as bad as brainfuck
#2145 [19:31] <aetherian> nevercast: it's worse
#2146 [19:31] <NeverCast> ^
#2147 [19:31] <SkiingPenguins> i only know cubescript and a little AHK >.<
#2148 [19:31] <NeverCast> Also! APL looks weak!
#2149 [19:32] <NeverCast> Don't people learn real languages anymore =./
#2150 [19:32] <SkiingPenguins> i dont
#2151 [19:32] <NeverCast> Ha.
#2152 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> "Pascal"?
#2153 [19:32] <NeverCast> Pascal counts as much as Ruby and Perl does.
#2154 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> "C++?! What happened to D?"
#2155 [19:32] <SkiingPenguins> im bad at learning syntax things
#2156 [19:32] <NeverCast> LOL
#2157 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> Pascal is the Esperanto of programming languages.
#2158 [19:32] <NeverCast> C, C+, D, D+
#2159 [19:32] <NeverCast> Nice
#2160 [19:32] <NeverCast> I see what you did there.
#2161 [19:32] <aetherian> nevercast, quit typing lol in all caps
#2162 [19:32] <aetherian> it's raping my eyes
#2163 [19:33] <SkiingPenguins> its distracting me from halo
#2164 [19:33] <NeverCast> aetherian: My shift key doesn't work at course... I'm currently abusing it at home
#2165 [19:33] <NeverCast> making the most of it
#2166 [19:33] <aetherian> ...
#2167 [19:33] <aetherian> THEN SPEAK IN ALL CAPS
#2168 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: What manner of creature are you that your eyes can autonomously refuse consent for intercourse?
#2169 [19:33] <NeverCast> Don't do that again.
#2170 [19:33] <SkiingPenguins> how am i supposed to fail at halo when you're distracting me?
#2171 [19:33] <NeverCast> Ha.
#2172 [19:33] <NeverCast> SkiingPenguins: Sounds like a route to being very successful at failing
#2173 [19:34] <NeverCast> Hey! If your goal is to fail, Isn't it impossible to fail?
#2174 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> Also, still waiting on a citation for that assertion that "[F]irefox is breaking up[.]".
#2175 [19:34] <NeverCast> Because in failing you achieve your goal, Hence winning.. at failing
#2176 [19:34] <aetherian> you fail at failing
#2177 [19:34] <aetherian> I rock at failing
#2178 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> This sentence is false.
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#2180 [19:34] <aetherian> it's opposite day
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#2182 [19:34] <NeverCast> Today = !Today;
#2183 [19:34] <xales> DopeGhoti is telling the truth!
#2184 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: This is #MineCraftHelp, not #YouCan'tDoThatOnIRC
#2185 [19:35] <xales> That sentence is a lie
#2186 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> xales speaks cake!
#2187 [19:35] <NeverCast> Lol.
#2188 [19:35] <NeverCast> Cake is a lie
#2189 [19:35] * DopeGhoti eats xales' words
#2189 [19:35] <aetherian> glados knows that
#2190 [19:35] <NeverCast> *sigh* Memes...
#2191 [19:35] <NeverCast> Anyway.. I'm workin on a toolkit for Minecraft
#2192 [19:36] <NeverCast> Just looking for some NBT examples
#2193 [19:36] <NeverCast> all the ones linked from a document on minecraft.com I found
#2194 [19:36] <NeverCast> are 404
#2195 [19:36] <NeverCast> Not Found-z0r
#2196 [19:38] <NeverCast> DopeGhoti: http://pastebin.com/a1FhtEgi
#2197 [19:38] <NeverCast> See how yummy code that is.. I don't want it to be wasted :P
#2198 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> so save it in ~/lib/mono for when it's pertinent?
#2199 [19:41] <NeverCast> Lol.
#2200 [19:41] <NeverCast> DopeGhoti: Linux or OSX user?
#2201 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> NeverCast: Yes.
#2202 [19:43] <NeverCast> Damn it!
#2203 [19:43] <NeverCast> DopeGhoti: Are you a Linux user?
#2204 [19:43] <Zemedelphos> what was the url to check if someone's a paid account or not?
#2205 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> NeverCast: Among other kernels, yes.
#2206 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> Zemedelphos: .../haspaid.jsp IIRC
#2207 [19:44] <Zemedelphos> thanks
#2208 [19:44] <aetherian> what distro?
#2209 [19:44] <aetherian> dopefish
#2210 [19:45] <Zemedelphos> Uh, where would you put the name?
#2211 [19:45] <Zemedelphos> Like minecraft.net.../haspaid.jsp
#2212 [19:45] <NeverCast> ?username=<name>
#2213 [19:45] <NeverCast> perhaps
#2214 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> Let's see. Gentoo, Debian (and descendants), Red Hat (and descendants, when I have to or am paid to) primarily.
#2215 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> Also, Darwin and other BSDs.
#2216 [19:46] <aetherian> not microcore :p
#2217 [19:46] * DopeGhoti is not familiar with this microcore of which you speak^Wtype.
#2217 [19:47] <NeverCast> Debian and decendants such as Ubuntu and their family
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#2219 [19:47] <NeverCast> Red Hat and Fedora I'm assuming?
#2220 [19:47] <NeverCast> Possibly Cent OS also?
#2221 [19:47] <aetherian> dopeghoti, it's some small linux download
#2222 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> Mostly CentOS and RHEL
#2223 [19:47] <aetherian> 8 megs
#2224 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> I loathe RPM and all its progent.
#2225 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> er, progeny
#2226 [19:49] <NeverCast> Haha.
#2227 [19:49] <NeverCast> Fair enough./
#2228 [19:49] <NeverCast> !!!
#2229 [19:49] <NeverCast> I was like, why am I getting an EOS error
#2230 [19:49] <NeverCast> Turns out I forgot to seek to the start of my buffer after writing to it
#2231 [19:49] <NeverCast> FAIL
#2232 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> "Because it's the Erroneousn Operationg System"?
#2233 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> s/n //
#2234 [19:50] <NeverCast> Haha, Vim user also, DopeGhoti ?
#2235 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> Indeed. Also sed and awk.
#2236 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> I suppose one day I should learn how to use escape-meta-alt-control-shift^WEight Mega And Currently Swapping^W^W^W^W^Wemacs, but.. effort.
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#2238 [19:54] <NeverCast> Sounds easy^M^M^M^Mdifficult to me.
#2239 [19:54] <NeverCast> First test run of my NBTLib.. Seems the code is running rather well so far
#2240 [19:55] <NeverCast> Only one error and that was a Reference vs Value problem.
#2241 [19:56] <NeverCast> Error reading list tag. Unsupported type: TAG_Compound
#2242 [19:56] <NeverCast> Ha! I didn't know Compounds existed in Lists
#2243 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> I once knew a good egg metaphor for keeping References and Values straight, but I go it all muddled when I started applying Pointers to References and flipping Value into Reference, before getting scalded and dropping the Compiler, sending superheated bits of Reference and Value to all corners of the kitchen.
#2244 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> this is why I don't cook much.
#2245 [19:58] <NeverCast> Ahaha!
#2246 [19:59] <NeverCast> Know what
#2247 [19:59] <NeverCast> Lists have gone and screwed up all my program flow
#2248 [19:59] <NeverCast> Notch! Bad format
#2249 [19:59] <NeverCast> BAD
#2250 [19:59] <NeverCast> Or at least bad documentation on it
#2251 [19:59] <NeverCast> I'm going to have to make another method and move some shit around
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#2253 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> Protip: it's all Base64.
#2254 [20:02] <NeverCast> DopeGhoti: It actually isn't
#2255 [20:02] <NeverCast> DopeGhoti: It's all binary data
#2256 [20:02] <NeverCast> Hence Named BINARY Tag
#2257 [20:02] <NeverCast> :P
#2258 [20:03] <NeverCast> DopeGhoti: I like the fact that you sir, are not an idiot. Because IRC channels are typically filled with them.
#2259 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> I do what little I can.
#2260 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> (and by 'it', I meant the naming convention of the files and directories, it not having yet occurred to me that you were parsing the files themsleves)
#2261 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> (also, thanks (: )
#2262 [20:05] <NeverCast> DopeGhoti: Oh Base64 for the files.. Thanks :D I hadn't noticed that :)
#2263 [20:06] <NeverCast> I thought it was meaningless crap
#2264 [20:06] <NeverCast> Okay I've reimplemented all the tag reader methods
#2265 [20:06] <NeverCast> List should work now
#2266 [20:06] <NeverCast> Stupid one tag causing mass-rewrite
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#2268 [20:10] <NeverCast> WOOOOOOOO!
#2269 [20:10] <NeverCast> It worked
#2270 [20:10] <NeverCast> I have a NodeTree based NBT file in memory
#2271 [20:10] <NeverCast> Now to create a GUI
#2272 [20:10] <NeverCast> ... oh and a NBTWriter
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#2274 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> Tch. Details.
#2275 [20:14] * NeverCast looks at DopeGhoti with a puzzled face.
#2275 [20:14] <NeverCast> What do you mean>?
#2276 [20:14] <NeverCast> s/>//
#2277 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> Diminutizing the forthcoming hard work is a common coping mechanism 'round these parts.
#2278 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> "Oh, we also need to port the DAO generator from jQuery to PHP." "Pff, details."
#2279 [20:17] <NeverCast> Ha are okay :)
#2280 [20:17] <NeverCast> *ah okay
#2281 [20:17] <NeverCast> I'll get to it then :)
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#2283 [20:18] <Joblev> Wow most everyone left :^o
#2284 [20:19] <xales> Everyone is still here
#2285 [20:19] * DopeGhoti thinks that 'everyone' may be overstating things.
#2285 [20:19] <Joblev> Oh..... most everyone wasn't chatting
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#2287 [20:19] <xales> Mibbit doesn't know who was talking when you aren't in the channe
#2288 [20:19] <xales> l
#2289 [20:19] * Joblev said most
#2289 [20:19] <xales> that is why no real clients use that
#2290 [20:19] <xales> Mibbit = piece of shit
#2291 [20:19] <xales> literally.
#2292 [20:19] <Joblev> :P
#2293 [20:20] <Joblev> ....
#2294 [20:20] <Joblev> :^P
#2295 [20:20] <Joblev> That's better :D
#2296 [20:20] <xales> >.>
#2297 [20:20] <Joblev> All of my faces now need noses
#2298 [20:20] <Joblev> :^D
#2299 [20:20] <xales> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pchat
#2300 [20:20] <xales> ^do that
#2301 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> mibbit is not a literal piece of excrement, though it has similar aesthetics.
#2302 [20:20] <xales> DopeGhoti: it is close enough.
#2303 [20:20] <xales> :)
#2304 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> not enough to justifiably use the word 'literally'.
#2305 [20:20] <Joblev> Meh, i use it for I won't use it much anyways
#2306 [20:20] <xales> I think it is, Dope.
#2307 [20:20] <xales> Have you used it lately?
#2308 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> you would then be using the word for the exact opposite of its intended purpose.
#2309 [20:21] <xales> No, I am using it correctly.
#2310 [20:21] <NeverCast> I'm using Mibbit right now.
#2311 [20:21] <xales> :_(
#2312 [20:21] <Joblev> CORRECTEDACTUALLY :D
#2313 [20:21] <Joblev> :^D
#2314 [20:21] <NeverCast> Only because I'm running on a Virtual Machine and can't be assed installing XChat
#2315 [20:21] <xales> That's a bit more reasonable
#2316 [20:21] <Joblev> ~~~~~~~~~~~
#2317 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> On the contrary; I defy you to find an actual piece of excrement which any compiler, parser, or interpreter will present as an AJAX IRC client.
#2318 [20:22] <xales> raeg
#2319 [20:22] * xales points DopeGhoti to chat.mibbit.com
#2319 [20:22] <NeverCast> Lol.
#2320 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> If this were goontown, we'd be awfully close to a Toxx Clause here.
#2321 [20:22] <NeverCast> That's not a compiler, parser or interpreter
#2322 [20:22] <xales> But it is a piece of extrement
#2323 [20:22] <xales> excrement*
#2324 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Not a literal one.
#2325 [20:23] <NeverCast> WHY!! Have I defined a local variable in the class scope
#2326 [20:24] * xales isn't going to continue this game. :(
#2326 [20:24] <NeverCast> Tired Coder is Tired.
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#2328 [20:26] <Flamester> I need some help here
#2329 [20:27] <Flamester> When I die in lava with a lot of stuff ive been gathering for the past few hours, how do I stop from rage quitting?
#2330 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> Flamester: by clicking 'respawn', and going off in search of replacements for your ill-gotten gains, all the wiser for your experience?
#2331 [20:29] * DopeGhoti has managed, somehow, to only die once in Minecraft, and when it happend, someone happened by my stuff and put it all in a chest for me to pick back up (:
#2331 [20:29] <Flamester> lucky...
#2332 [20:30] <xales> DopeGhoti: Noob. Stop using CheatEngine :(
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#2334 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> xales: wh.. huh?
#2335 [20:31] <xales> Everyone knows that only cheaters survive.
#2336 [20:31] <NeverCast> I always toss my shit in a Chest when looking for Lava.
#2337 [20:31] <xales> Minecraft is a very difficult game.
#2338 [20:31] <NeverCast> xales: He didn't survive, He said he died.
#2339 [20:31] <NeverCast> Rookie.
#2340 [20:31] <xales> only once. Because he forgot to turn his cheats on
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#2342 [20:31] <Flamester> cheat engine works with minecraft?
#2343 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> I will happily attest to my newbishness, having only been playing since Septamber.
#2344 [20:31] <Rob> Hello, is anyone available to help?
#2345 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> But I do not cheat, sir.
#2346 [20:32] <xales> Rob: Sure, what do you need help with?
#2347 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> Rob: That depends upon with what.
#2348 [20:32] <Flamester> No, were all talking about cheaters now
#2349 [20:32] * DopeGhoti hands Flamester an "'".
#2349 [20:32] <Flamester> Leave a message and we may get back to you.
#2350 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> you dropped that.
#2351 [20:32] <Guest1390139602> When I try to connect to my own server, I get an error message: 'java.net.NoRouteToHostException: No route to host'
#2352 [20:32] <xales> What IP are you using to connect?
#2353 [20:32] <Guest1390139602> 192.168.1.1
#2354 [20:32] <xales> That is the wrong IP
#2355 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> Guest1390139602: well.. that's a non-routable IP
#2356 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> that may be related.
#2357 [20:33] <Guest1390139602> What should I use instead?
#2358 [20:33] <Guest1390139602> My host ip?
#2359 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> You're not.. trying to run the server and client on the same machine at the smae time, are you?
#2360 [20:33] <Ruggsy> i honestly dont get how the servers work
#2361 [20:33] <Flamester> ???.0.0.1
#2362 [20:33] <xales> Either your loopback address (127.0.0.1), your local/LAN ip(192.168.1.x) or your external IP(xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)
#2363 [20:33] <xales> Ruggsy: Google is your friend.
#2364 [20:34] <Guest1390139602> Yes, I am running both.
#2365 [20:34] <Ruggsy> yea
#2366 [20:34] <Ruggsy> i know
#2367 [20:34] <Ruggsy> i still dont really know
#2368 [20:34] <xales> Google it.
#2369 [20:34] <Ruggsy> i am
#2370 [20:34] <Guest1390139602> Even when I use my IP address it gives me the same message.
#2371 [20:34] <Ruggsy> this doesnt help though
#2372 [20:34] <xales> Use 127.0.0.1
#2373 [20:34] <Ruggsy> how do you put it on a website type of delio
#2374 [20:34] <NeverCast> LOL
#2375 [20:34] * Cial [Cial@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2376 [20:34] <Ruggsy> not a website
#2377 [20:34] <NeverCast> Putting your Gateway as your server
#2378 [20:34] <NeverCast> lolz
#2379 [20:35] <Guest1390139602> Oh ok
#2380 [20:35] <Guest1390139602> thanks xales that worked.
#2381 [20:35] <xales> Ruggsy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_(computing)
#2382 [20:35] <NeverCast> Lol.
#2383 [20:35] <Guest1390139602> Will other people be able to connect, though?
#2384 [20:35] <xales> Not with that IP
#2385 [20:35] <Ruggsy> nevermind >.>
#2386 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> Ruggsy: the same way all servers work. They open a listen socket and wait for a SYN packet to hit the assigned port
#2387 [20:35] <NeverCast> Guest1390139602: The other people, are they in your network?
#2388 [20:35] <Flamester> go to, whatismyip and look at that
#2389 [20:35] <Flamester> thats your external IP
#2390 [20:36] <Flamester> they should be able to connect with that
#2391 [20:36] <NeverCast> Flamester: He'll probably need to do port forwarding
#2392 [20:36] <xales> ^
#2393 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> when they receive it, they send a SYNACK packet, upon which the client sends back an ACK packet, and the connection is firmly established
#2394 [20:36] <NeverCast> Flamester: Most of the world uses NAT
#2395 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> Ruggsy: shall I go on?
#2396 [20:36] <Flamester> Bah, I hate port forwarding
#2397 [20:36] <NeverCast> DopeGhoti: Then an ACK packet
#2398 [20:36] <NeverCast> or RST
#2399 [20:36] <Guest1390139602> NeverCast, what do you mean?
#2400 [20:36] <Ruggsy> no im fine
#2401 [20:36] <NeverCast> SYN-SYNACK-ACK
#2402 [20:36] <NeverCast> 3 way TCP handshake
#2403 [20:36] <xales> Guest1390139602: Are the other people you want to play with in the same building as you?
#2404 [20:36] <Guest1390139602> No
#2405 [20:37] <xales> Did you port forward?
#2406 [20:37] <Guest1390139602> Yes.
#2407 [20:37] <NeverCast> Guest1390139602: What type of internet connection do you have?
#2408 [20:37] <Guest1390139602> Define type?
#2409 [20:37] <NeverCast> -.-"
#2410 [20:37] <xales> Cable, DSL...
#2411 [20:37] <Guest1390139602> You mean like wireless?
#2412 [20:37] <NeverCast> Dial-up, ADSL, Cable
#2413 [20:37] <Guest1390139602> Cable
#2414 [20:37] <NeverCast> I mean like the modem to the world
#2415 [20:37] <NeverCast> okay
#2416 [20:37] <NeverCast> .. Wait I don't know anything about Cable modems
#2417 [20:37] <NeverCast> Are they NAT?
#2418 [20:37] <Cial> who said dialup?
#2419 [20:38] <xales> Yes, NeverCast
#2420 [20:38] <NeverCast> Cial: This guy
#2421 [20:38] <xales> Guest1390139602: Can you connect using 107.5.14.204
#2422 [20:38] <NeverCast> Cial: He might have lived in India or something, gotta take all possibilities
#2423 [20:38] <Cial> blarg words that ping me
#2424 [20:38] <Guest1390139602> No, I'll try it now.
#2425 [20:38] <Guest1390139602> That gives me the error message, too.
#2426 [20:38] <Cial> im on dialup and im in the USA
#2427 [20:39] <NeverCast> xales: I wonder.. if he was trying to connect to himself with 192.168.1.1... Then what did he port fowar to?
#2428 [20:39] <NeverCast> *forward
#2429 [20:39] <xales> Guest1390139602: What error?
#2430 [20:39] <Guest1390139602> I port forward 25565
#2431 [20:39] <NeverCast> Cial: yay for dial up
#2432 [20:39] <NeverCast> Guest1390139602: Connection refused?
#2433 [20:39] <Guest1390139602> The error is: 'java.net.NoRouteToHostException: No route to host'
#2434 [20:39] <NeverCast> Ha.
#2435 [20:39] <Cial> its gets you online
#2436 [20:39] <NeverCast> Guest1390139602: What IP did you forward port 25565 to?
#2437 [20:39] <NeverCast> Cial: Indeed.
#2438 [20:40] <Cial> makes me half tempted to connect to the irc via telnet on a dos based system though
#2439 [20:40] <Guest1390139602> 192.168.1.1
#2440 [20:40] <xales> Cial: or use ircii
#2441 [20:40] <NeverCast> Cial: Haha yeah I wish I still had a dial up modem
#2442 [20:40] <NeverCast> Guest1390139602: Fail
#2443 [20:40] <NeverCast> Guest1390139602: That's your gateway
#2444 [20:40] <Guest1390139602> What should I change it to?
#2445 [20:40] <NeverCast> Guest1390139602: Not the server computer/ you computer
#2446 [20:40] <Cial> xales, yea but it hates windows
#2447 [20:40] <NeverCast> Guest1390139602: I'm going to assume you're using windows... just a hunch
#2448 [20:40] <Guest1390139602> Linux guy, here.
#2449 [20:40] <NeverCast> Really?
#2450 [20:41] <NeverCast> New guy?
#2451 [20:41] <NeverCast> What distro?
#2452 [20:41] <Guest1390139602> Ubuntu to be specific.
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#2454 [20:41] <NeverCast> Okay thanks
#2455 [20:41] <NeverCast> In that case
#2456 [20:41] <NeverCast> Hold Ctrl and Alt
#2457 [20:41] <NeverCast> and Press T
#2458 [20:41] <NeverCast> that brings up a terminal
#2459 [20:41] <Guest1390139602> Not a complete noob. :P
#2460 [20:41] <NeverCast> Guest1390139602: The computer you're on
#2461 [20:41] <NeverCast> Is it Wired or Wireless?
#2462 [20:41] <Guest1390139602> Wireless.
#2463 [20:41] <fisken> hey, how do you customize commands for your own server?
#2464 [20:42] <NeverCast> Guest1390139602: type ifconfig
#2465 [20:42] <NeverCast> into your console
#2466 [20:42] <NeverCast> Guest1390139602: Look for an entry block either similar to wlan0
#2467 [20:42] <NeverCast> or ath0
#2468 [20:42] <NeverCast> or wifi0
#2469 [20:42] <Guest1390139602> Yeah, there's a wlan0.
#2470 [20:42] <NeverCast> ( Depends on your Wireless Card and Drivers )
#2471 [20:42] <NeverCast> Okay Wlan0 is good
#2472 [20:42] <NeverCast> Second line of that block
#2473 [20:43] <NeverCast> contains a inet addr property
#2474 [20:43] <NeverCast> what's the address?
#2475 [20:43] <Guest1390139602> 192.168.1.106
#2476 [20:43] <NeverCast> That's the server
#2477 [20:43] <Guest1390139602> Is that the one I port forward to?
#2478 [20:43] <NeverCast> That is your computer
#2479 [20:43] <NeverCast> not 192.168.1.1
#2480 [20:43] <NeverCast> So forward to 192.168.1.106
#2481 [20:43] <Guest1390139602> Ok, thanks.
#2482 [20:43] <NeverCast> You can also use that address instead of 127.0.0.1 to check
#2483 [20:43] <Guest1390139602> I'm not too familiar with servers.
#2484 [20:43] <Guest1390139602> How ironic, huh?
#2485 [20:43] <NeverCast> This is more like Networking Fundimentals
#2486 [20:44] <NeverCast> But 'servers' will do.
#2487 [20:45] <Guest1390139602> That worked perfectly.
#2488 [20:45] <Guest1390139602> Thank you very much.
#2489 [20:46] <fisken> Is there anyone here that can help me with a server question?
#2490 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> fisken: depends on the question.
#2491 [20:47] <fisken> i want to know how people customize commands for their servers
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#2493 [20:47] <Hybris95> Hi everyone
#2494 [20:48] <Hybris95> Does anyone know if there is a Minecraft official French channel ?
#2495 [20:48] <xales> Hello
#2496 [20:48] <aetherian> hi
#2497 [20:48] <NeverCast> Hey :D
#2498 [20:48] <xales> There is not, to my knowledge.
#2499 [20:48] <NeverCast> Hybris95: As far as I know, There is #minecraft, and #minecrafthelp
#2500 [20:48] <Hybris95> Ty very much, another question :P How do i get the right to write in the #minecraft channel ?
#2501 [20:48] <NeverCast> that is all.
#2502 [20:48] <NeverCast> Hybris95: Register
#2503 [20:49] * aetherian cries
#2503 [20:49] <NeverCast> Hybris95: /msg nickserv help register
#2504 [20:49] <fisken> DopeGhoti: i want to know how people customize commands for their servers
#2505 [20:49] <aetherian> read. the. topic. people.
#2506 [20:49] <Hybris95> Thank you NeverCast
#2507 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> fisken: with unsupported mods.
#2508 [20:49] <NeverCast> aetherian: People are noob
#2509 [20:49] <fisken> DopeGhoti: so it's just different server software?
#2510 [20:49] <NeverCast> fisken: Learn to Codes :)
#2511 [20:49] <NeverCast> fisken: It's the same but with modes
#2512 [20:49] <NeverCast> *mods
#2513 [20:49] <NeverCast> fisken: Like hacks :P
#2514 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> fisken: it's modified server software, yes.
#2515 [20:49] <NeverCast> EVIL H4X!
#2516 [20:50] <fisken> what is minecraft written in
#2517 [20:50] <Cial> fisken,look on the forums there are plenty of cusom server software
#2518 [20:50] <Cial> *custom
#2519 [20:50] <fisken> Cial: will do
#2520 [20:50] <Hybris95> Java i guess
#2521 [20:50] <Cial> java
#2522 [20:50] <Cial> lots and lots of java
#2523 [20:50] <NeverCast> I thought that was obvious
#2524 [20:50] <NeverCast> to be honest
#2525 [20:50] <fisken> ah right, that would make sense
#2526 [20:50] <fisken> stupid question..
#2527 [20:50] <NeverCast> Yah!
#2528 [20:52] <fisken> This isn't entirely minecraft related, but is gpu usually soldered to motherboards? or can you replace gpu without replacing the entire motherboard
#2529 [20:52] <Hybris95> depends of the gpu
#2530 [20:52] <Hybris95> but most of recent ones yeah
#2531 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> say generally an onboard GPU is an intrinsic part of the board.
#2532 [20:53] <xales> Integrated (bad) ones are
#2533 [20:53] <xales> Good ones are not
#2534 [20:53] <NeverCast> Eugh!
#2535 [20:53] <xales> generally
#2536 [20:53] <NeverCast> Haha
#2537 [20:53] <Hybris95> well depends of the kind of gpu card
#2538 [20:53] <NeverCast> xales: External graphics cards are not always good
#2539 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> s/say/I'd 7/
#2540 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> s/7/&/#sigh
#2541 [20:53] <NeverCast> My mums laptops' onboard is better than my Gt6600
#2542 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> on that note, I go home now.
#2543 [20:53] <NeverCast> DopeGhoti: You going online when you get home?
#2544 [20:54] <NeverCast> fisken: The Gpu question could have been answered with a simple Google Query
#2545 [20:54] <NeverCast> fisken: Please think to use Google in future
#2546 [20:54] <fisken> my brother and i just bought the game, and now found out that our gpu stinks for gaming, and the lag is unbearable. idk what to do.
#2547 [20:54] <NeverCast> fisken: Get a better computer
#2548 [20:54] <fisken> NeverCast: i did google it. i guess my google fu is lacking today
#2549 [20:54] <fisken> NeverCast: not exactly made out of money
#2550 [20:54] <NeverCast> fisken: Although no lag is unberable. I play Minecraft on my Laptop with my Mobile Intel Graphics and it's 64mb VRam.. no problems.
#2551 [20:54] <fisken> NeverCast: but yea, i guess that is the only solution
#2552 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> probably.
#2553 [20:55] <NeverCast> fisken: My Desktop has an NVidia 6600GT.. It's very out dated
#2554 [20:55] <NeverCast> Get lots of lag, but if the game is worth playing
#2555 [20:55] <NeverCast> You'll play it regardless of lag
#2556 [20:55] <NeverCast> I play COD at 30fps and I play Crysis at 13FPS
#2557 [20:55] <NeverCast> Still play them :P
#2558 [20:55] <fisken> NeverCast: well i would agree, but i get so much lag, i can barely move
#2559 [20:56] <NeverCast> fisken: Single player?
#2560 [20:56] <fisken> NeverCast: no multiplayer, single player isn't that bad
#2561 [20:56] <NeverCast> fisken: You hosting on the same server you playing on?
#2562 [20:56] <NeverCast> IE, Host and Play on the same computer?
#2563 [20:57] <fisken> NeverCast: yes, but that's not when i get the most lag, it's when i go into a server like c.nerd.nu
#2564 [20:57] <NeverCast> fisken: Then it's not graphics problems
#2565 [20:57] <NeverCast> fisken: It's internet likely
#2566 [20:57] <NeverCast> If you can't move when playing on WAN, but LAN is fine
#2567 [20:57] <NeverCast> It's networking
#2568 [20:57] <NeverCast> not graphics
#2569 [20:57] <fisken> NeverCast: but when i press F3, i get giant red bars that start taking up the screen
#2570 [20:57] <NeverCast> fisken: Yeah I get those too lol. But I...
#2571 [20:57] <xales> Firewall.
#2572 [20:57] <xales> turn off.
#2573 [20:58] <NeverCast> xales, How would that affect it
#2574 [20:58] <xales> Firewall = must process all packets
#2575 [20:58] <NeverCast> xales, It's not like he has inbound connections
#2576 [20:58] <xales> Minecraft = send lots of packets
#2577 [20:58] <Hybris95> if the firewall was blocking, he just couldnt login
#2578 [20:58] <NeverCast> In that case, Firewall.. Add Exception
#2579 [20:58] <xales> It doesn't matter if it is an exception or blocking it
#2580 [20:58] <NeverCast> Hybris95: He's saying his firewall is causing lag
#2581 [20:58] <xales> It would still examine each packet.
#2582 [20:58] <xales> That is how firewalls work.
#2583 [20:58] <Hybris95> Nope it's not
#2584 [20:58] <xales> It is.
#2585 [20:59] <NeverCast> Hybris95 is correct
#2586 [20:59] <NeverCast> it isn't
#2587 [20:59] <Hybris95> Well you should go learn a bit more about firewalls :D
#2588 [20:59] <xales> Actually, it is.
#2589 [20:59] <NeverCast> If you add an exception, Firewalls don't touch that packet
#2590 [20:59] <NeverCast> they don't examine it
#2591 [20:59] <NeverCast> it passes through
#2592 [20:59] <xales> How do they know it has an exception?
#2593 [20:59] <xales> They have to determine the source and destination of the packet.
#2594 [20:59] <NeverCast> It's in the Ethernet Frame Header
#2595 [20:59] <Hybris95> depending on the process or port
#2596 [20:59] <xales> Still has to be examined.
#2597 [20:59] <xales> Still can cause lag.
#2598 [20:59] <NeverCast> Ha
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#2600 [21:00] <NeverCast> Dude if it lags from reading a header ( which it shouldn't )
#2601 [21:00] <Hybris95> Well so few to make that kind of graphic bug
#2602 [21:00] <NeverCast> He's not going to be able to play Minecraft, firewall on or off
#2603 [21:00] <xales> Look at how many packets Minecraft sends.
#2604 [21:00] <xales> Seriously.
#2605 [21:00] <Hybris95> Not so much
#2606 [21:00] <xales> Gogo wireshark.
#2607 [21:00] <Hybris95> i did yesterday ;)
#2608 [21:00] <NeverCast> *Sigh*
#2609 [21:00] <NeverCast> Just to Humour you
#2610 [21:00] <NeverCast> I'll start up Wireshark
#2611 [21:02] <Hybris95> well anyway, a simple firewall cannot make that kind of bugs just because it analyses the flow of informations sent by minecraft
#2612 [21:02] <Hybris95> especially a graphic bug
#2613 [21:03] <xales> It isn't a graphics bug
#2614 [21:03] <Hybris95> Ok whatever bug it is
#2615 [21:04] <fisken> well, do you think the problem with the red bars correlates with the lag i get?
#2616 [21:04] <xales> Red bars = framerate
#2617 [21:04] <xales> high bars = low framerate
#2618 [21:04] <xales> low framerate = lag
#2619 [21:04] <xales> so yes
#2620 [21:04] <xales> try turning firewall off :)
#2621 [21:04] <fisken> xales: i will give that a try
#2622 [21:04] <Hybris95> I'm pretty sure it won't change anything but he still can do it while i intrude his computer :P
#2623 [21:05] <xales> NAT
#2624 [21:05] <xales> make firewall not do shit
#2625 [21:05] <xales> for inbound
#2626 [21:05] <NeverCast> I'm with xales on that
#2627 [21:05] <NeverCast> NAT is pretty safe
#2628 [21:05] <NeverCast> More so if your router has SPI
#2629 [21:05] <NeverCast> Dude
#2630 [21:05] <NeverCast> WTF is all this 2 byte and 1 byte shit
#2631 [21:05] <NeverCast> Notch.. I'm going to slap him
#2632 [21:06] <NeverCast> The amount of over head is like 20 times larger than the packet data
#2633 [21:06] <NeverCast> This is horrible
#2634 [21:06] <xales> mhmm
#2635 [21:06] <Hybris95> xD
#2636 [21:06] <NeverCast> I thought Wurm was bad
#2637 [21:06] <NeverCast> With it's, every 100ms, Have I moved? No: Send ping, Yes: Yes Movement data
#2638 [21:06] <NeverCast> If you're moving, or not moving
#2639 [21:06] <NeverCast> It's still flooding your net
#2640 [21:09] <Hybris95> that's a bit why it's still beta i think ;)
#2641 [21:09] <Hybris95> Optimisation is not made yet
#2642 [21:11] <NeverCast> Yeah I guess that is why Wurm is still beta
#2643 [21:11] <NeverCast> It still sucks also
#2644 [21:12] <Hybris95> That's sure ;)
#2645 [21:13] <fisken> xales: well i disabled my firewall, and nothing is different
#2646 [21:13] <Hybris95> =°
#2647 [21:14] <fisken> i really long to explore c.nerd.nu, but it's impossible with a max of 1 fps
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#2649 [21:18] <fisken> NeverCast: you don't know what's causing the red bars right?
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#2651 [21:20] <NeverCast> fisken: I'm not sure what they are.. however the F3 screen gives more info
#2652 [21:20] * NeverCast connecting to server, please wait
#2652 [21:23] <NeverCast> fisken: I'm not sure mate.. I've got a lot of red bars but still 20ish frames per second
#2653 [21:23] <fisken> NeverCast: the most i ever get, is like 5
#2654 [21:26] <NeverCast> fisken, I'm not sure sorry.
#2655 [21:26] <NeverCast> fisken: More players, more updates, more traffic, more lag?
#2656 [21:27] <fisken> NeverCast: idk i guess
#2657 [21:27] <fisken> NeverCast: just bothers me that i payed for this game, and i love it, but it's torture to play
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#2659 [21:29] <iwatchyo_> hello?
#2660 [21:29] <iwatchyo_> anybody here?
#2661 [21:30] <NeverCast> iwatchyo_: Hey
#2662 [21:31] <iwatchyo_> hi
#2663 [21:31] <iwatchyo_> I just bought the game but I cant log in.
#2664 [21:31] <iwatchyo_> Any help with that?
#2665 [21:32] <NeverCast> What's the error?
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#2667 [21:33] <iwatchyo_> It says i need to log in online first to activate offline. I do that and Its telling me to buy it again.
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#2670 [21:37] <iwatchyo_> Nevercast. you still there?
#2671 [21:38] <iwatchyo_> hello?
#2672 [21:38] <iwatchyo_> anybody here?
#2673 [21:39] <jkoby> yo.
#2674 [21:39] <iwatchyo_> can yo help
#2675 [21:39] <iwatchyo_> you*
#2676 [21:39] <jkoby> Trying to figure out how to get minecraft to run on my thinkpad t60 - it used to run fine, but it started crashing saying there's no pixel acceleration.
#2677 [21:39] <jkoby> with what?
#2678 [21:40] <aetherian> uh
#2679 [21:40] <iwatchyo_> o nevermind.
#2680 [21:40] <iwatchyo_> the transaction just went thought.
#2681 [21:40] <iwatchyo_> i got the email.
#2682 [21:41] <iwatchyo_> longest 20 min of my life.
#2683 [21:41] <jkoby> :P
#2684 [21:41] <iwatchyo_> peace.
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#2687 [21:46] <tylersgame0399> what is the latest version number for the beta server?
#2688 [21:47] <tylersgame0399> server version Beta 1.2_01?
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#2690 [21:53] <nevercast> Stupid laptop died -.-"
#2691 [21:53] <nevercast> Warning: Your computer has 3 minutes remaining ( 30% battery ) and will hibernate!
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#2693 [21:58] <tylersgame0399> what is the latest version number for the beta server?
#2694 [22:01] <nevercast> tylersgame0399, 12 I think
#2695 [22:01] <nevercast> lol.
#2696 [22:04] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, You online?
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#2699 [22:11] <mib_mrn6e2> Hey, I have all my 5 world slots all full. How do i start a new world without deleting my previous worlds?
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#2703 [22:26] <Jackson413> is anyone else's minecraft being weird?
#2704 [22:28] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: I am now.
#2705 [22:28] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Hey :)
#2706 [22:28] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti: is ur mc being weird>?
#2707 [22:28] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, My reader and writer for NBT files work now :)
#2708 [22:28] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Making UserControls :D
#2709 [22:29] <Jackson413> what are nbt files?
#2710 [22:31] <nevercast> Jackson413, Named Binary Tag
#2711 [22:32] <Jackson413> that sounds cool
#2712 [22:32] <nevercast> Jackson413, Format Notch uses.. I believe he created it actually
#2713 [22:32] <Jackson413> ohhhh
#2714 [22:32] <Jackson413> thats kinda cool
#2715 [22:32] <nevercast> Jackson413, It's about as annoying has every other format he created.. So I guess it's his
#2716 [22:32] <Jackson413> lol
#2717 [22:32] <Jackson413> ok my game just crashes everytime i try to get in my server
#2718 [22:33] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: what error?
#2719 [22:33] <Jackson413> hold on lemme replicate it
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#2721 [22:34] <Jackson413> http://pastebin.com/sLiDyx6s
#2722 [22:36] <Jackson413> god what is wrong with my printer it is printing blank sheets like crazy
#2723 [22:36] <Jackson413> and i havent told it to print all day
#2724 [22:37] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: you're not running ZoneAlarm are you?
#2725 [22:38] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, I just realised.. UI is so much more difficult than Terminal applications.. I hate designing interfaces -.-"
#2726 [22:38] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, I can code, just can't design to save myself :P
#2727 [22:38] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti: nope
#2728 [22:38] <Jackson413> brb
#2729 [22:39] <nevercast> Hmm
#2730 [22:39] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Minecraft have properties/options/settings files?
#2731 [22:39] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Perhaps the format has changed and it has thrown the parser?
#2732 [22:39] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: yes.
#2733 [22:39] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, He could always try clearing his user data and giving it a go again
#2734 [22:40] <DopeGhoti> but theformat has not changed that I am aware of. Chucking local files was going to be my next step
#2735 [22:40] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, This is why I hate Obfuscated code!
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#2737 [22:41] <nevercast> ( That and because I've spent a lot of my life Deobfuscating it :P )
#2738 [22:41] <Jackson413> back
#2739 [22:41] <nevercast> Jackson413, wb
#2740 [22:41] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: have you tried clearing out .minecraft/bin yet?
#2741 [22:41] <Jackson413> eh no
#2742 [22:41] <Jackson413> it's not me I don't thinl
#2743 [22:41] <Jackson413> my other users are unable to connect
#2744 [22:41] <nevercast> Imho, I'd clear your entire .minecraft folder except for your world saves
#2745 [22:41] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#2746 [22:42] <DopeGhoti> ^ Jackson413, do that.
#2747 [22:42] <Jackson413> it's not me
#2748 [22:42] <nevercast> Jackson413, O.o
#2749 [22:42] <DopeGhoti> well, who are you then?
#2750 [22:42] <Jackson413> other people are having the same issue
#2751 [22:42] <nevercast> Hmm
#2752 [22:42] <nevercast> I should check to see if i'm having the issue!
#2753 [22:42] <Jackson413> that's why I'm puzzle
#2754 [22:42] <nevercast> *puzzled
#2755 [22:42] <Jackson413> connect to my server and speak
#2756 [22:42] <nevercast> Speak?
#2757 [22:43] <nevercast> And it throws that error?
#2758 [22:43] <Jackson413> 24.210.28.18
#2759 [22:43] <nevercast> Sounds like someone has been messing with command mods
#2760 [22:43] <Jackson413> yes it crashes when I say anything
#2761 [22:43] <Jackson413> no
#2762 [22:43] <nevercast> server has mods?
#2763 [22:43] <Jackson413> I'm running hey0 unofficial alpha 14
#2764 [22:43] <DopeGhoti> well
#2765 [22:43] <DopeGhoti> there's your problem right there
#2766 [22:43] <nevercast> unofficial + alpha == bugs
#2767 [22:43] <DopeGhoti> we don't support modt 'round these parts
#2768 [22:44] <DopeGhoti> er, mods.
#2769 [22:44] <Jackson413> but here's the weird part
#2770 [22:44] <Jackson413> it has been running 3 days straight without a hitch
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#2772 [22:44] <nevercast> And then the mod downloaded a VIRUS!
#2773 [22:44] <nevercast> and it broke your server
#2774 [22:44] <nevercast> and ate your cookies and stole your money!
#2775 [22:44] <Jackson413> lol
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#2777 [22:45] <checkzor> :3
#2778 [22:45] <Jackson413> I don't get how that coulda happened all of the sudden though
#2779 [22:45] <Jackson413> hmmm brb
#2780 [22:45] <nevercast> Know what Jackson
#2781 [22:45] <nevercast> I want to dig
#2782 [22:45] <nevercast> I'm done reading all these RULES
#2783 [22:45] <Jackson413> ?
#2784 [22:45] <checkzor> not gloating or anything but
#2785 [22:45] <checkzor> [root@208297 minecraft]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/output.img bs=8k count=256k 262144+0 records in 262144+0 records out 2147483648 bytes (2.1 GB) copied, 3.33107 seconds, 645 MB/s
#2786 [22:45] <Jackson413> you're in my server?
#2787 [22:46] <nevercast> yes sir
#2788 [22:46] <Jackson413> the rules are there cause someone has violated it
#2789 [22:46] <checkzor> fine nobody cares that my i/o is orgasmic
#2790 [22:46] <Jackson413> if something causes a problem, it becomes a rule lol
#2791 [22:46] <checkzor> >_>
#2792 [22:47] <Jackson413> checkzor I'm faking my orgasm
#2793 [22:47] <checkzor> Oh hey checkzor, what beautiful I/O you have
#2794 [22:47] <checkzor> Aww thanks checkzor
#2795 [22:47] <checkzor> I wish I had Your i/o
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#2797 [22:47] <checkzor> I bet you do checkzor
#2798 [22:47] <checkzor> bam
#2799 [22:47] <checkzor> see he likes it
#2800 [22:47] <Jackson413> I'm faking my orgasm
#2801 [22:47] <DopeGhoti> writing from /dev/zero onto a RAM drive is fast. Film at eleven.
#2802 [22:47] <nevercast> lol.
#2803 [22:47] <checkzor> yeah this is non ramdrive >_>
#2804 [22:47] <nevercast> /dev/rand
#2805 [22:47] <checkzor> shh
#2806 [22:47] <nevercast> wtf
#2807 [22:48] <Jackson413> ssd?
#2808 [22:48] <nevercast> or is it /proc/rand
#2809 [22:48] <nevercast> i can never remember
#2810 [22:48] <checkzor> mhmm is raid
#2811 [22:48] <checkzor> in*
#2812 [22:48] <DopeGhoti> /dev/urandom. and SSDs are fast-read, slow-as-death write.
#2813 [22:48] <Jackson413> nevercast try speaking
#2814 [22:48] <Jackson413> dope it's worth it lol
#2815 [22:48] <nevercast> I win
#2816 [22:48] <Jackson413> better than my shit
#2817 [22:48] <checkzor> I think my server is having some latency issues atm
#2818 [22:48] <Jackson413> did it crash?
#2819 [22:48] <checkzor> 160 ping
#2820 [22:48] <checkzor> wtf
#2821 [22:48] <nevercast> Lol.
#2822 [22:48] <checkzor> was 40 yesterday
#2823 [22:48] <nevercast> No crash
#2824 [22:49] <Jackson413> nice ping
#2825 [22:49] <checkzor> anyone know the cause of this?
#2826 [22:49] <Jackson413> nevercast: did it crash for you too?
#2827 [22:50] <Jackson413> ?
#2828 [22:50] <nevercast> na
#2829 [22:50] <Jackson413> ru kidding???
#2830 [22:52] <lemon-rev> checkzor contact isp do a cmd and do a tracert on the thing your trying to ping and send your isp the tracert log
#2831 [22:52] <nevercast> It doesn't crash for me cause I'm not a H4X0R :D
#2832 [22:52] <checkzor> isp
#2833 [22:52] <checkzor> you mean the host
#2834 [22:52] <lemon-rev> yes
#2835 [22:52] <lemon-rev> hm
#2836 [22:52] * Kealper cracks open AuBot's source for some tweakin'
#2836 [22:52] <checkzor> because multiple people are getting this ping throughout NA
#2837 [22:52] <checkzor> so yeah
#2838 [22:52] <lemon-rev> well wheres the host then
#2839 [22:53] <checkzor> cali
#2840 [22:53] <checkzor> and I'm in alberta canada
#2841 [22:53] <checkzor> I know I'm far
#2842 [22:53] <checkzor> however yesterday under 60 ping all day
#2843 [22:54] <lemon-rev> well it could be host like downloading or doing something stupid like torrenting
#2844 [22:54] <relsqui> I remember seeing in the wiki a monster that makes a short pssst noise, like a creeper but without the boom
#2845 [22:54] <checkzor> The host is a datacenter :(
#2846 [22:54] <relsqui> but I forget what it was and now I can't find it
#2847 [22:54] <lemon-rev> hm
#2848 [22:54] <relsqui> anyone remember offhand?
#2849 [22:54] <lemon-rev> wtf,
#2850 [22:54] <checkzor> with 100mbit upload/download
#2851 [22:54] <lemon-rev> relsqui i havent seen one
#2852 [22:55] <lemon-rev> well it could be datacentre then it can happen
#2853 [22:56] <lemon-rev> but mostly they are or should be 200% working over time but shit can happen chekczor
#2854 [23:01] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: spider perhaps?
#2855 [23:01] <DopeGhoti> they hiss.
#2856 [23:01] <nevercast> lol.
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#2859 [23:11] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2860 [23:11] * Kealper tests AuBot
#2860 [23:12] <Kealper> hmm...
#2861 [23:12] * Kealper asdf aubot
#2861 [23:12] <Kealper> mah parsing is a bit off
#2862 [23:17] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2863 [23:17] * Kealper pokes AuBot
#2863 [23:17] * Kealper pokes AuBot
#2863 [23:17] <Kealper> close..but no cigar, and i know what's wrong
#2864 [23:18] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2865 [23:18] * Kealper pokes AuBot
#2865 [23:19] * Kealper asdfs AuBot
#2865 [23:19] <Kealper> hmm....i should have it say "back" at the end....
#2866 [23:22] <nevercast> Anyone got any idea what the NBT ByteArray Tag is used for ?
#2867 [23:22] * Kealper slaps AuBot
#2867 [23:22] <nevercast> What does it store?
#2868 [23:23] * nevercast sucks AuBot
#2868 [23:23] <nevercast> :D
#2869 [23:23] <DopeGhoti> probably stores an array of bytes
#2870 [23:23] <Kealper> uhh....if i had to take a shot in the dark, i'd say it stores either bytes, or it stores an array
#2871 [23:23] <nevercast> ...
#2872 [23:23] <nevercast> I wasn't clear lol.
#2873 [23:23] <nevercast> I know for a fact it stores a byte array
#2874 [23:23] <nevercast> I'm just wondering what minecraft would put in that array
#2875 [23:24] <nevercast> I'm making an editor.. Should I display the byte array in hex or ascii?
#2876 [23:24] <Kealper> not sure, but if i had to guess, i'd say probably hex
#2877 [23:24] <Kealper> that might be what stuff like block states are stored in and such
#2878 [23:24] * xales slaps AuBot around a bit with an unreasonably massive trout
#2878 [23:24] <xales> :(
#2879 [23:25] <Kealper> it's not that smart >.>
#2880 [23:25] * xales qqqq AuBot
#2880 [23:25] <Kealper> it just looks for simple things directed at it
#2881 [23:25] <xales> :(
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#2883 [23:29] <mr_fribble> .......
#2884 [23:29] <Kealper> ??????????
#2885 [23:29] <mr_fribble> i has no ideas what im doing
#2886 [23:29] <mr_fribble> so by
#2887 [23:30] <Kealper> what was that...i don't even...
#2888 [23:30] <xales> Noobs, kealper
#2889 [23:30] <Kealper> and he used the wrong bye -.-
#2890 [23:30] <xales> ALL AROUND US
#2891 [23:30] <Kealper> OHGOD
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#2893 [23:31] <Criminal0> 4g, AMD Athlon™ II X4 Quad-Core Processor ; i have tryied making the process 'high prioraty' i ahve also tried setting afinity to only one core,disabled virus scanners, removed my router; still users are lagged
#2894 [23:31] <Criminal0> i can run a 10 slot cs:s server on my connection without issues, so its NOT my connection either :(
#2895 [23:32] <Kealper> when you say 4g, you mean 4g wireless connection?
#2896 [23:32] <Criminal0> 4g ram. no wifi - lol
#2897 [23:32] <Kealper> oh lol
#2898 [23:32] <Kealper> hmm....are you playing on the same box you host from? (i'm assuming so)
#2899 [23:32] <Criminal0> i dont play .
#2900 [23:33] <nevercast> Who wants to see the first test of my NBT User control :D
#2901 [23:33] <Criminal0> if i type /give whatever .. into the server, it can be litterall 1 full min before the ser gets the item
#2902 [23:33] <Criminal0> user*
#2903 [23:34] <Kealper> hmm...just to check, can you go to http://speedtest.net and do a test with the server that it recommends, then post the link that it gives you at the end of the test?
#2904 [23:34] <Kealper> nevercast: i'll bite, link?
#2905 [23:34] <Criminal0> if thye to OP commands it can take the same 1min before it works
#2906 [23:34] <nevercast> http://i51.tinypic.com/2ecp3k9.png
#2907 [23:35] <Criminal0> i can run cs:s server of my connection , its lots fast for 2 minecraft users . one would think
#2908 [23:35] <nevercast> I raped Visual Studio of it's Images lol.
#2909 [23:35] <nevercast> Screenshots of IntelliSense ftw
#2910 [23:35] <nevercast> Criminal0, You are forgetting that CS:S is well coded. MC is not :P
#2911 [23:36] <Kealper> hmmm....well, the super high amount of lag means that the server is being borked for cpu time...usually
#2912 [23:36] <Criminal0> agreed, but my issues seem unexplained
#2913 [23:36] <Criminal0> damn .. anything else i can do`
#2914 [23:36] <xales> What is the clock speed
#2915 [23:36] <Kealper> what else are you doing on your computer when they lag?
#2916 [23:36] <xales> of the processor
#2917 [23:36] * Kealper guesses 2.8Ghz
#2917 [23:37] <Kealper> let's see how close i was
#2918 [23:37] <Criminal0> cha, quad core
#2919 [23:37] <Kealper> did i really get that spot on?
#2920 [23:37] <Criminal0> yes
#2921 [23:37] * Kealper does a victory pose
#2921 [23:37] <nevercast> Kealper, All I need for that Treeview is to drag and drop the UserControl onto my form and use this
#2922 [23:37] <nevercast> http://pastebin.ca/2044431
#2923 [23:37] <nevercast> Boom then you have this: http://i51.tinypic.com/2ecp3k9.png
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#2925 [23:38] <Kealper> anyways
#2926 [23:38] <Kealper> what are you doing on your computer when they get the lag?
#2927 [23:38] <Criminal0> nothing at all , its idle
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#2929 [23:39] <Criminal0> i disabled virus scanners .. tryed everything
#2930 [23:39] <Kealper> how much cpu % does the server process use?
#2931 [23:39] <Kealper> and have you tried reinstalling java/redownloading the minecraft server
#2932 [23:40] <Criminal0> it says 03 .. i assume that means %
#2933 [23:40] <Criminal0> yeppers
#2934 [23:40] <Kealper> ok so it's not using anything at all....
#2935 [23:40] <Criminal0> both
#2936 [23:40] <Criminal0> seems not
#2937 [23:40] <Kealper> how much ram usage?
#2938 [23:40] <Kealper> and are you running the exe or the jar?
#2939 [23:40] <Criminal0> says 235,161k
#2940 [23:41] <Criminal0> i have tired both jar and exe
#2941 [23:41] <Criminal0> exe rite no thou .. with the gui
#2942 [23:42] <Kealper> and you have atleast 1gb of ram free for the minecraft server?
#2943 [23:42] * Kealper is stumped
#2943 [23:42] <Criminal0> i got 4gig ram, so, i assume
#2944 [23:43] <Criminal0> yeah .. i am only using 1.43g now .. as eper windows
#2945 [23:43] <xales> wwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiittttttttt
#2946 [23:43] <xales> is this Windows 7?
#2947 [23:43] <Criminal0> yes
#2948 [23:43] <xales> is UAC on?
#2949 [23:43] <Kealper> probably.....
#2950 [23:44] * Kealper wonders where xales is going with this
#2950 [23:44] <Criminal0> no, only one user
#2951 [23:44] <Criminal0> oh shit .. wait
#2952 [23:44] <Criminal0> i do enter a psswdwhen i login
#2953 [23:44] <Criminal0> buti am the only user
#2954 [23:44] <Kealper> that is not UAC
#2955 [23:44] <Criminal0> i am somewhat of a windows nub, pls explain
#2956 [23:44] <Kealper> have you ever seen that little popup that asks you if you want to continue or not whe something tries messing with system files?
#2957 [23:45] <Criminal0> never
#2958 [23:45] <xales> do this
#2959 [23:45] <xales> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/12/30/how-to-disable-and-turn-off-uac-in-windows-7/
#2960 [23:47] <Criminal0> yeppers, its off
#2961 [23:48] <xales> are you using 64-bit Windows?
#2962 [23:49] <Criminal0> yes, win7 x64
#2963 [23:49] <xales> do you have the 64-bit Java installed?
#2964 [23:50] <Criminal0> damned if i know, iused the installed off their page. i think
#2965 [23:50] <Criminal0> ill go look
#2966 [23:51] <Criminal0> fuck me .. no im not
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#2968 [23:52] <Criminal0> im gonna reboot before i try that .. jsut in case .. thx all :)
#2969 [23:52] <Criminal0> ill let you know either way
#2970 [23:56] <Arkose> turning off UAC D:
#2971 [23:57] <xales> ?
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#2973 [23:58] <Evan> Hi
#2974 [23:58] <xales> Hello
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#2976 [23:58] <Evan> Anyone here know anything about setting up servers on Minecraft?
#2977 [23:59] <xales> fail
#2978 [23:59] <xales> ._.