#MinecraftHelp > 2011-02-08
#1 [00:00] <Kealper> rawr
#2 [00:00] <Kealper> -.-
#3 [00:00] <DopeGhoti> Good talk, Evan.
#4 [00:01] <DopeGhoti> Glad we had this discussion.
#5 [00:01] <DopeGhoti> <rant type="BillMahr">New rule: Anyone connecting from mibbit doesn't get server setup assistance.</rant>
#6 [00:02] <Arkose> <DopeGhoti> <rant type="BillMahr">New rule: Anyone connecting from mibbit doesn't get assistance.</rant>
#7 [00:02] <Arkose> fixed.
#8 [00:04] <xales> whoops
#9 [00:04] <xales> did I just do that? xD
#10 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> Hey now...
#11 [00:04] <xales> lol
#12 [00:06] <Kealper> i'm hungry :/
#13 [00:10] <nevercast> Hmm
#14 [00:10] <nevercast> OH!!
#15 [00:10] <nevercast> I'm not using Mibbit anymore
#16 [00:10] <nevercast> Lol I was worried for a sec
#17 [00:10] * AuBot kicked nevercast from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
#18 [00:10] <aetherian> waugh
#19 [00:10] <aetherian> wha
#20 [00:10] <aetherian> that was...
#21 [00:10] <aetherian> kinda harsh
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#23 [00:11] <aetherian> don't you think
#24 [00:11] * nevercast punches AuBot
#24 [00:11] * nevercast punches AuBot harder
#24 [00:11] <aetherian> lol
#25 [00:11] <nevercast> Yeah that's right!
#26 [00:11] <aetherian> does aubot autokick after 4 lines of one person?
#27 [00:11] <aetherian> let
#28 [00:11] <aetherian> me
#29 [00:11] <aetherian> try
#30 [00:11] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
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#32 [00:12] <aetherian> is
#33 [00:12] <nevercast> LOL
#34 [00:12] <aetherian> not anymore gone
#35 [00:12] <nevercast> shh!
#36 [00:12] <nevercast> It's back
#37 [00:12] <nevercast> ROFL
#38 [00:13] <aetherian> quick, ddos the server it's on and spam the channel once it disconnects!
#39 [00:13] <xales> no, no
#40 [00:13] <xales> you ping -f
#41 [00:13] <xales> not ddos
#42 [00:14] <aetherian> multiping~=ddos
#43 [00:14] <aetherian> if you get a lot of people to do it
#44 [00:14] <xales> don't need many
#45 [00:14] <xales> only 1 or 2
#46 [00:14] <xales> with good connection
#47 [00:14] <aetherian> besides, I don't want to reboot to get on my linux
#48 [00:14] <aetherian> I
#49 [00:14] <aetherian> would
#50 [00:14] <aetherian> rather be kicked
#51 [00:14] <aetherian> awww
#52 [00:14] <aetherian> no fun >.>
#53 [00:14] * ChanServ kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: KICK by DopeGhoti (As you wish.))
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#55 [00:15] <aetherian> jerk
#56 [00:15] <DopeGhoti> you asked.
#57 [00:15] <aetherian> no
#58 [00:15] <aetherian> I did not
#59 [00:16] <aetherian> I said that...
#60 [00:16] <aetherian> I would RATHER be kicked than reboot
#61 [00:16] <DopeGhoti> If that kick was not to your complete satisfaction, please present your other bottock to the dispensary for an exchange.
#62 [00:16] <aetherian> however
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#64 [00:16] <aetherian> there was a third option
#65 [00:16] <aetherian> and dopeghoti: quit asking for other guys glutes
#66 [00:16] <nevercast> Who does AuBot belong to?
#67 [00:16] <xales> Kealper
#68 [00:16] <nevercast> It's Kealper's isn't it
#69 [00:16] <DopeGhoti> Does that third option not entail pressing Enter when a comma would do?
#70 [00:16] <xales> also known as Kelly
#71 [00:16] <xales> :)
#72 [00:17] <Kealper> rawr
#73 [00:17] <Kealper> what about AuBot?
#74 [00:17] <DopeGhoti> speaking of bots
#75 [00:17] <aetherian> kealper: turn back on the kick function :D
#76 [00:17] <Kealper> ok, back on? lol
#77 [00:17] <Kealper> oh....
#78 [00:17] <aetherian> yay
#79 [00:17] <aetherian> that
#80 [00:17] <aetherian> is
#81 [00:17] <Kealper> GreyVulpine!!
#82 [00:17] <aetherian> awesome
#83 [00:17] <aetherian> dammit
#84 [00:17] <aetherian> kealper
#85 [00:17] <DopeGhoti> (be careful for what you wish, you may get it)
#86 [00:17] <xales> !kick aetherian D:
#87 [00:17] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: You are the weakest link, goodbye! (Issued by xales with reason: D:))
#88 [00:18] <Kealper> lol
#89 [00:18] <nevercast> Kealper, C:\xampp\htdocs\blog\
#90 [00:18] <nevercast> Kealper, I know where your blog ias
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#92 [00:18] <nevercast> *is
#93 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> ?
#94 [00:18] <Kealper> can you AOP aubot?
#95 [00:18] <Kealper> it's flood protection is useless if it can't kick -.-
#96 [00:18] <aetherian> kealper
#97 [00:18] <aetherian> as I was saying
#98 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Sure, one sec
#99 [00:18] <aetherian> make it so that it kicks after 6 consec posts
#100 [00:19] <aetherian> :)
#101 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> [12:19.14am] *ChanServ* Aubot moved to #MineCraftHelp AOP list.
#102 [00:19] <Kealper> nevercast: might i ask, where did you find that out? lol
#103 [00:19] <Kealper> danke sehr
#104 [00:19] <nevercast> Kealper, I got your IP
#105 [00:19] <nevercast> Kealper, I found your blog
#106 [00:19] <Kealper> NOWAI
#107 [00:19] <nevercast> Kealper, I found exloits
#108 [00:19] <aetherian> lol
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#110 [00:19] <nevercast> Kealper, I h4x yo shit
#111 [00:19] <xales> Kealper: slashme reminds you this is why we dont use windoze
#112 [00:19] <Kealper> did you really?
#113 [00:20] * aetherian runs a port scan on kealper.com
#113 [00:20] <nevercast> aetherian, LOL
#114 [00:20] <nevercast> Kealper, Yes
#115 [00:20] <aetherian> say, it's supposed to be a port 8080 attack, right?
#116 [00:20] <nevercast> aetherian, Port 80
#117 [00:20] <aetherian> I can check that
#118 [00:20] <aetherian> I have a couple scanners
#119 [00:20] <nevercast> I have one that scans for XSS and SQL Injection Vulnerablities
#120 [00:20] <nevercast> Very nice
#121 [00:20] <Kealper> shit, i guess that "CRITICAL SECURITY UPDATE" notice on my habari admin page was right o.o
#122 [00:21] <aetherian> kealper
#123 [00:21] <aetherian> out of five pings
#124 [00:21] <aetherian> only the first made it though
#125 [00:21] <aetherian> o.o
#126 [00:21] <Kealper> meh, if you can't fuck up files with whatever you did, i don't care
#127 [00:21] <Kealper> if you can, then i guess it's time i updated my blog software -.-
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#129 [00:22] <aetherian> kealper, all my pings are timing out
#130 [00:22] <nevercast> Kealper, Nah it's only a File path disclosure vuln
#131 [00:22] <nevercast> Can't break anything
#132 [00:22] <nevercast> http://blog.kealper.com/system/admin/comments_items.php
#133 [00:22] <aetherian> and aubot isn't responding to my pings
#134 [00:22] <Kealper> aubot doesn't respond to ctcp pings
#135 [00:22] <aetherian> awwww
#136 [00:22] <aetherian> no fun
#137 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Aww
#138 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#139 [00:22] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.4 Seconds.
#140 [00:22] <aetherian> !ping
#141 [00:22] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.371 Seconds.
#142 [00:23] <aetherian> pwn
#143 [00:23] <xales> !ping
#144 [00:23] <GreyBot> xales Your Ping time was 3.395 Seconds.
#145 [00:23] <Kealper> is that supposed to be broke? lol
#146 [00:23] * xales wins again!
#146 [00:23] <aetherian> heh
#147 [00:23] <Kealper> !ping
#148 [00:23] <GreyBot> Kealper Your Ping time was 2.804 Seconds.
#149 [00:23] <Kealper> how'd that screw up?
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#151 [00:23] <aetherian> kealper, why can't I ping kealper.com ;_;
#152 [00:23] <Kealper> irssi y u no wait for 3000ms?!
#153 [00:24] <aetherian> waiting for 1 sec it seems
#154 [00:24] <Kealper> idk, you should be able to
#155 [00:24] <aetherian> or you're laggin
#156 [00:24] <Kealper> eh?
#157 [00:24] <aetherian> I pinged you...
#158 [00:24] <xales> slashme pings it fine
#159 [00:24] <aetherian> and I got 1.41 seconds
#160 [00:24] <xales> 14 packets transmitted, 14 received, 0% packet loss, time 13035ms
#161 [00:24] <xales> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 53.388/55.704/59.489/1.652 ms
#162 [00:25] <aetherian> yeah, I can't load up kealper.com either
#163 [00:25] <aetherian> something's wrong...
#164 [00:25] <xales> like you = noob?
#165 [00:25] <xales> :P
#166 [00:25] <aetherian> and omigod
#167 [00:25] <Kealper> 4 packets transmitted, 3 received, 25% packet loss, time 2999ms
#168 [00:25] <Kealper> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 117.499/118.287/119.205/0.702 ms
#169 [00:25] <aetherian> the server won't load
#170 [00:25] <Kealper> works fine for me
#171 [00:25] <aetherian> fix your site
#172 [00:25] <aetherian> I can't take it down if it's broken
#173 [00:26] <Kealper> what page?
#174 [00:26] <xales> it works fine Kealper
#175 [00:26] * nevercast jumps on http://habariproject.org/dist/, Downloads Kealper's version of Habari and looks for exploits
#175 [00:26] <xales> aetherian is just internet fail
#176 [00:26] <aetherian> !ping
#177 [00:26] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.36 Seconds.
#178 [00:26] <aetherian> you're right...
#179 [00:26] <aetherian> granted
#180 [00:26] <aetherian> that's with mc on a server in the background
#181 [00:26] <nevercast> lol.
#182 [00:26] <aetherian> :o
#183 [00:26] <aetherian> and too many tabs on ie
#184 [00:27] <aetherian> =\
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#186 [00:27] <aetherian> oh well
#187 [00:27] <aetherian> ty roe
#188 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Ewww IE
#189 [00:27] <aetherian> nooooo
#190 [00:27] <aetherian> firefox
#191 [00:27] <xales> that has nothing to do with ping time
#192 [00:27] <aetherian> :D
#193 [00:27] <xales> your router responds to pings anyway
#194 [00:27] <xales> unless you forwarded ICMP
#195 [00:27] <aetherian> xales: music streaming does...
#196 [00:27] <aetherian> I though
#197 [00:27] <xales> which you did not.
#198 [00:27] <aetherian> how do you know?
#199 [00:27] <aetherian> :O
#200 [00:27] <xales> I can just tell.
#201 [00:27] <Kealper> because most routers won't let you?
#202 [00:28] * aetherian doesn't take care of his internet, although he did crack the password
#202 [00:29] <nevercast> My router will let me forward ICMP if I NAT a computer
#203 [00:29] <nevercast> Otherwise, Virtual Servers don't forward ICMP
#204 [00:29] <nevercast> My router has an SPI mode
#205 [00:29] <nevercast> Click it and the router ignores ALL inbound traffic lol.
#206 [00:29] <aetherian> aahhhh
#207 [00:29] <aetherian> acronyms
#208 [00:29] <aetherian> wait
#209 [00:29] <nevercast> It just drops off the face of the net
#210 [00:29] <aetherian> why didn't it kick you o.o
#211 [00:29] <nevercast> I'm loved Nigga
#212 [00:29] <nevercast> :P jks
#213 [00:29] <aetherian> kealper, how does the antiflood work?
#214 [00:30] <Kealper> uhh...for what?
#215 [00:30] <Kealper> aubot detecting spam? 3+ messages in 2000ms
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#217 [00:30] <aetherian> oh
#218 [00:30] <aetherian> now
#219 [00:30] <aetherian> I
#220 [00:30] <aetherian> see
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#222 [00:30] <aetherian> wait... that can't be right
#223 [00:30] <aetherian> it kicked me earlier for over 200ms
#224 [00:30] <nevercast> Boring webcam is boring : http://kealper.webhop.org/webcam.jpg
#225 [00:30] <aetherian> I though
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#227 [00:30] <aetherian> t
#228 [00:30] <Kealper> nevercast: doesn't update anymore
#229 [00:31] <nevercast> Kealper, Hence boring
#230 [00:31] <nevercast> :P
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#232 [00:31] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: can you also do it for 3 consecutive messages of less than 10 characters?
#233 [00:31] <Kealper> it used to, although it would be equally boring, since it's midnight here right now lol
#234 [00:31] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i could.....but...i don't want it to be millitaristic lol
#235 [00:32] <Kealper> comcast is HELLA fucking up right now
#236 [00:32] <aetherian> so
#237 [00:32] <aetherian> you don't like the military
#238 [00:32] <aetherian> hmm?
#239 [00:32] <Kealper> .set mode GreyVulpine +o
#240 [00:33] <nevercast> fail
#241 [00:33] <aetherian> hey geyfox
#242 [00:33] <aetherian> I mean
#243 [00:33] <Kealper> now it'll ninja chanserv super hard for you too >.>
#244 [00:33] <aetherian> waaaiiitttt
#245 [00:33] <aetherian> so now I can't copy some quote pasta?
#246 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#247 [00:33] <Kealper> you can try
#248 [00:34] * GreyVulpine sets mode +b aetherian*!*@*
#248 [00:34] <aetherian> <aetherian> .
#249 [00:34] <aetherian> <aetherian> .
#250 [00:34] <aetherian> <aetherian> .
#251 [00:34] <aetherian> <aetherian> .
#252 [00:34] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
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#254 [00:34] <aetherian> no more doing quotes, then
#255 [00:34] <xales> 00:34:05 < aetherian> <aetherian> .
#256 [00:34] <xales> 00:34:06 < aetherian> <aetherian> .
#257 [00:34] <xales> 00:34:06 < aetherian> <aetherian> .
#258 [00:34] <xales> 00:34:06 < aetherian> <aetherian> .
#259 [00:34] <xales> >:D
#260 [00:34] <aetherian> lolmod
#261 [00:34] <aetherian> I am glad you liked my quotes
#262 [00:34] <Kealper> he could deop and do that too
#263 [00:35] <aetherian> but he's on the moderation list...
#264 [00:35] <aetherian> even if not officially
#265 [00:35] <xales> wat
#266 [00:35] <Kealper> it's got an ignore list
#267 [00:35] <Kealper> so it always igores spam from those select people
#268 [00:35] <aetherian> kealper: for long copypasta, you should make it ban for longer the longer the spam
#269 [00:35] <aetherian> :D
#270 [00:36] <aetherian> if that's possible
#271 [00:36] <DopeGhoti> copypasta is always better with alfredo sauce.
#272 [00:36] <Kealper> it only cares if it was 3+ messages in 2 sec, it does not wait for the full spam
#273 [00:36] * nevercast downloads and installs zenmap via package manager and then starts attack on Kealper because he's bored
#273 [00:36] <aetherian> dopeghoti: or just with some butter and mizithra cheese
#274 [00:36] <Kealper> i'll rape you while you sleep if you make my internet drop out :/
#275 [00:37] <nevercast> LOL
#276 [00:37] <nevercast> I'd rather you rape me while I'm awake
#277 [00:37] <nevercast> but sure
#278 [00:37] <Kealper> the scary thing is that you'd want to be raped at all o.o
#279 [00:37] <aetherian> .o
#280 [00:37] <aetherian> argh
#281 [00:38] <aetherian> half my face is hiding
#282 [00:38] <aetherian> D:
#283 [00:38] <nevercast> Initiating SYN Stealth Scan at 18:37
#284 [00:38] <nevercast> Scanning c-67-177-131-104.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
#285 [00:38] <xales> Kealper
#286 [00:38] <xales> http://consumerist.com/2010/10/worst-company-in-america-trophy-mailed-to-comcast.html
#287 [00:38] * Kealper waits for the inevitable "LOLWHYUGOTALLTHESEPORTSOPEN????"
#287 [00:39] * aetherian is gonna port scan kealper
#287 [00:39] <aetherian> and then tomorrow
#288 [00:39] <aetherian> when it has scanned them all
#289 [00:39] <nipper> haha xales
#290 [00:39] <aetherian> they commeth
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#292 [00:40] <Kealper> just a brotip: you would not be able to exploit most of the programs that you will find on that portscan, they are ones i've made myself so they don't have any documentation/known bugs to exploit :P
#293 [00:40] <xales> you mean like unknown buffer overflows?
#294 [00:40] <xales> :P
#295 [00:40] <nevercast> Kealper, I'm just bruting into your MySQL Server at the moment
#296 [00:40] <nevercast> Lol Xales
#297 [00:40] <Kealper> oh....forgot i still had that
#298 [00:40] <nevercast> Yah
#299 [00:40] <xales> "forgot"
#300 [00:40] <xales> you just got a new server
#301 [00:40] <xales> ._.
#302 [00:41] <Kealper> and? lol
#303 [00:41] <xales> why did you even bother installing mysql if you don't use/need it? :P
#304 [00:41] <aetherian> lol
#305 [00:41] <Kealper> my blog uses it.....but i don't use my blog so....lol
#306 [00:41] <nevercast> LOL
#307 [00:42] <Kealper> crack it already? lol
#308 [00:42] <nevercast> Shh I'm working here :P
#309 [00:42] <aetherian> what the heck
#310 [00:42] <nevercast> Lol dude you can't crack sql without trying
#311 [00:42] <nevercast> and I'm not in the mood
#312 [00:42] <aetherian> that's a lot of open ports
#313 [00:42] <aetherian> o.o
#314 [00:42] <nevercast> Yes sir
#315 [00:42] <nevercast> I can tell you what they all are
#316 [00:42] <Kealper> not for most
#317 [00:42] <nevercast> Discovered open port 3389/tcp on 67.177.131.104
#318 [00:42] <nevercast> Discovered open port 443/tcp on 67.177.131.104
#319 [00:42] <nevercast> Discovered open port 3306/tcp on 67.177.131.104
#320 [00:42] <nevercast> Discovered open port 80/tcp on 67.177.131.104
#321 [00:42] <nevercast> Discovered open port 8080/tcp on 67.177.131.104
#322 [00:42] * AuBot kicked nevercast from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
#323 [00:42] <aetherian> lmao
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#325 [00:42] <Kealper> ok those, yes
#326 [00:43] <nevercast> Right, We have SSL HTTP, SQL, HTTP, Private HTTP and FTP
#327 [00:43] <aetherian> I got 13/16 for a quick scan
#328 [00:43] <aetherian> open
#329 [00:43] <Kealper> 8080 is alternate http no private http :/
#330 [00:43] <Kealper> not*
#331 [00:43] <nevercast> 3389.. Is remote desktop protocol
#332 [00:43] <Kealper> that's how i roll?
#333 [00:43] <Kealper> lol
#334 [00:43] <nevercast> LOL
#335 [00:43] <aetherian> ftp, ssh, domain, http, pop3, imap, https, submissi- need I go on?
#336 [00:44] <nevercast> He has mail servers?
#337 [00:44] <Kealper> a broken one
#338 [00:44] <nevercast> lol.
#339 [00:44] * aetherian is doing a bigger scan
#339 [00:44] <Kealper> which reminds me i need to turn that back off...
#340 [00:44] <nevercast> Lol
#341 [00:45] <nevercast> I imagine my router locked so tight it wouldn't be any fun at all
#342 [00:45] <aetherian> it's national let's all fu- up kealper's internet day
#343 [00:45] <aetherian> :DDD
#344 [00:45] * xales ping -f kealper.com
#344 [00:45] <Kealper> everything on this new server of mine is actually set up right so you can't get out of the jailed account all the server processes are running under anyways :/
#345 [00:46] <aetherian> xales: lux thing, right?
#346 [00:46] <xales> lux
#347 [00:46] <xales> ?
#348 [00:46] <Kealper> lunix
#349 [00:46] <Kealper> lol
#350 [00:46] <aetherian> no...
#351 [00:46] <aetherian> LinUX
#352 [00:46] <aetherian> it's shprter
#353 [00:46] <xales> um
#354 [00:46] <aetherian> shorter
#355 [00:46] <xales> nobody does that
#356 [00:46] <Kealper> the shorthand of linux is nix.....
#357 [00:46] <Kealper> well
#358 [00:46] <xales> -f Flood ping. For every ECHO_REQUEST sent a period ‘‘.’’ is printed, while for ever ECHO_REPLY received a backspace is printed. This pro‐
#359 [00:46] <Kealper> unix-based oses
#360 [00:46] <xales> vides a rapid display of how many packets are being dropped. If interval is not given, it sets interval to zero and outputs packets as
#361 [00:46] <xales> fast as they come back or one hundred times per second, whichever is more. Only the super-user may use this option with zero interval.
#362 [00:46] <xales> fail
#363 [00:47] <xales> >.>
#364 [00:47] <Kealper> xales: i'm totally going to do that from this server i'm on :o
#365 [00:47] <xales> lol
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#367 [00:47] * aetherian pulls out loic, for lack of better thing
#367 [00:47] <Jakob> #loic
#368 [00:47] <aetherian> loloic
#369 [00:47] <Kealper> DARN
#370 [00:47] <Kealper> ping: cannot flood; minimal interval, allowed for user, is 200ms
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#372 [00:48] <xales> do it as root
#373 [00:48] <Kealper> that would have been rather entertaining to dos myself from datacenter internet -.-
#374 [00:48] <Kealper> i should lol
#375 [00:49] <aetherian> kealper: what port should I pingzes you on?
#376 [00:49] <Kealper> port 100.....
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#378 [00:49] <aetherian> you sure?
#379 [00:49] <Criminal0> xales: sitll lag .. sigh
#380 [00:49] <aetherian> 190.120....
#381 [00:49] <Kealper> sure, why not
#382 [00:49] <aetherian> etc
#383 [00:49] <aetherian> what port was 100, again?
#384 [00:50] <Kealper> you nub that's the wrong ip
#385 [00:50] <Criminal0> would you mind trying it ? perhaps its jsut the mub on the other side testing it ?
#386 [00:50] <aetherian> kealper: wha?
#387 [00:50] <Kealper> anything you did to that ip would just be like trying to kill a cow with a flyswatter
#388 [00:50] <aetherian> proxy shit or something?
#389 [00:50] <Kealper> no, irssi running on a linux terminal on a server in a datacenter
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#392 [00:51] <Kealper> no, irssi running on a linux terminal on a server in a datacenter
#393 [00:51] <aetherian> someond DoSing me :O
#394 [00:51] <Kealper> peer was DoSing you
#395 [00:51] <aetherian> :OOO
#396 [00:51] <aetherian> damn that man
#397 [00:51] <aetherian> kealper, am I DoSing kealper.com?
#398 [00:51] <Kealper> if you want? it's not going to do much
#399 [00:52] <nevercast> Yes it is
#400 [00:52] <nevercast> It's going to ruin.. something
#401 [00:52] <nevercast> that I'm not saying
#402 [00:52] <aetherian> I thought I was pinging 190.120.238.65 ...
#403 [00:52] <nevercast> .. Just DON'T
#404 [00:52] <Kealper> well....actually the way that server process on port 100 is set up, it might
#405 [00:52] <nevercast> port 100?
#406 [00:52] <Jakob> 67.177.131.104
#407 [00:52] <nevercast> what's on port 100?
#408 [00:52] <Kealper> for me to know and you to find out :P
#409 [00:52] <Jakob> port 95 is better
#410 [00:52] <aetherian> type http?
#411 [00:52] <Kealper> aetherian: it's not a webserver
#412 [00:52] <aetherian> aww
#413 [00:53] <aetherian> tcp, then?
#414 [00:53] <Criminal0> would someone pls try my sever and see if the lag is real or not ?
#415 [00:53] <nevercast> It's a custom server of his own by the looks of it
#416 [00:53] <Kealper> yes, but just know that your internet sucks and you are on wireless, so it's not going to do anything to me, and your router will just be taking the brunt of the attack
#417 [00:53] <Kealper> Criminal0: address?
#418 [00:53] <aetherian> kealper: thank you, I was just about to be plugging my ethernet cord into my computer
#419 [00:53] <aetherian> brb
#420 [00:54] <Kealper> that doesn't help the fact that i can upload at 5x the speed you can download at -.-
#421 [00:54] <Criminal0> pmsg :)
#422 [00:54] <nevercast> Interesting ports on c-67-177-131-104.hsd1.mi.comcast.net (67.177.131.104):
#423 [00:54] <nevercast> PORT STATE SERVICE
#424 [00:54] <nevercast> 100/tcp open newacct
#425 [00:54] * AuBot kicked nevercast from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
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#427 [00:55] <nevercast> Dinner time
#428 [00:55] <nevercast> back to hackin when I return
#429 [00:55] * Kealper wonders when he will learn that lesson
#429 [00:55] <aetherian> details, kealper
#430 [00:55] <aetherian> nevercast
#431 [00:55] <aetherian> wait
#432 [00:55] <nevercast> yes?
#433 [00:55] <aetherian> set your program to be pinging him as you eat
#434 [00:55] <nevercast> Ping..
#435 [00:55] <nevercast> What good is that
#436 [00:55] <aetherian> whatever
#437 [00:55] <aetherian> send packets
#438 [00:55] <aetherian> nao
#439 [00:55] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
#440 [00:56] <nevercast> lol
#441 [00:56] <nevercast> When I get back
#442 [00:56] <nevercast> I'll fire up ze bot net
#443 [00:56] <nevercast> k
#444 [00:56] <nevercast> cool
#445 [00:56] * AuBot kicked nevercast from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
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#447 [00:56] <aetherian> >.>
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#449 [00:56] <aetherian> !ping
#450 [00:56] <nevercast> Seriously.. I'm going to put /join #minecrafthelp on a bind
#451 [00:56] <Kealper> Criminal0: for shits and grins....stop your server, rename your world folder to something else...and have it generate a new test map
#452 [00:56] <Criminal0> ok.
#453 [00:57] <Kealper> stop triggering aubot's spam protection and it will stop kickbanning you -.-
#454 [00:57] <aetherian> either greybot didn't work, or I am laggin
#455 [00:57] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 64.513 Seconds.
#456 [00:57] <aetherian> there we go
#457 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Holy crap
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#459 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> You win an internet for that ping time
#460 [00:58] <Kealper> wow
#461 [00:58] <Kealper> a whole minute of lag
#462 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#463 [00:58] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.281 Seconds.
#464 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, definitely not me that's lagging
#465 [00:58] <Criminal0> Kealper: done ,, retry pls ?
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#467 [00:59] <Kaikz> !ping
#468 [00:59] <GreyBot> Kaikz Your Ping time was 0.581 Seconds.
#469 [00:59] <Kaikz> derp.
#470 [01:00] <aetherian> that's what I get for attacking kealpers innernet page
#471 [01:00] <aetherian> !ping
#472 [01:00] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 9.013 Seconds.
#473 [01:00] <aetherian> lag
#474 [01:00] <Kealper> aetherian: is it really hurting you that bad?
#475 [01:01] <Kealper> i don't even notice anything -.-
#476 [01:01] <aetherian> all that text since when I said !ping the second time just flooded me
#477 [01:01] <aetherian> I turned it off
#478 [01:01] <Kealper> i didn't notice anything at all
#479 [01:01] <aetherian> I can't chat and use the ion cannon
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#481 [01:01] <aetherian> I need moar people
#482 [01:01] * GreyVulpine snerks.
#482 [01:01] <Kealper> wow
#483 [01:01] <Criminal0> Kealper: how long does it useualy take for a new user to d/l map info ?
#484 [01:01] <Kealper> fail lol
#485 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> G'luck with that aetherian
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#487 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Criminal0 - Idealy, seconds.
#488 [01:02] <Kealper> Criminal0: it should take only a few sec, but yours never seemed to give me the whole map
#489 [01:02] <Rawrmawr> Does anyone have a link on how to host a game?
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#491 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Rawrmawr - Download server software from:
#492 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> !server
#493 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Port forward, connect.
#494 [01:02] <aetherian> everybody! attack kealper.com:100 incessantly! hear ye!
#495 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Simple
#496 [01:02] <Criminal0> all users still seem to have mad lag
#497 [01:02] <Rawrmawr> Thank you kindly
#498 [01:02] <aetherian> me away
#499 [01:02] <aetherian> for a lil
#500 [01:03] <aetherian> let's try this again
#501 [01:03] <aetherian> maybe without 50000 threads
#502 [01:03] <aetherian> :)
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#504 [01:04] <aetherian> !ping
#505 [01:04] <Sqozza> If you're serious.
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#507 [01:04] <Sqozza> You're retarded.
#508 [01:04] <Sqozza> That is all.
#509 [01:04] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 11.928 Seconds.
#510 [01:04] <aetherian> who me?
#511 [01:04] <Sqozza> Kealper, can I LOIC back? :>
#512 [01:04] <Kealper> Criminal0: go to http://speedtest.net and run a test, give us the link result in here
#513 [01:04] <Arkose> I see I chose the perfect moment to come in :)
#514 [01:04] <nevercast> LOL LOIC
#515 [01:04] <Kealper> Sqozza: be my guest
#516 [01:05] <nevercast> DUDE.. LOIC, You serious?
#517 [01:05] <Sqozza> :3
#518 [01:05] <aetherian> squozza, I'm using that too...lol
#519 [01:05] <nevercast> I'm a developer of LOIC :P
#520 [01:05] <Sqozza> hecks
#521 [01:05] <nevercast> I have the SVN account and all
#522 [01:05] <akiwiguy> !ping
#523 [01:05] <GreyBot> akiwiguy Your Ping time was 0.541 Seconds.
#524 [01:05] <aetherian> well, nevercast, then help us take down the guys website
#525 [01:05] <nevercast> Lol.
#526 [01:05] <nevercast> Oh okay
#527 [01:05] <aetherian> ima charge my laser again with max threads
#528 [01:05] <akiwiguy> who's website?
#529 [01:05] <aetherian> kealper.com port 100 tcp
#530 [01:06] <Kealper> good thing it's a web site on that port, huh?
#531 [01:06] <aetherian> right...
#532 [01:06] <aetherian> somehow I think ye're lying about it
#533 [01:06] <akiwiguy> Arkose, woo someone from New Zealand!
#534 [01:06] <Kealper> generally it works better to know your target and attack with precision than to just run in guns-blazing
#535 [01:06] <aetherian> kk ima be laggin
#536 [01:06] <nevercast> Kealper, They are nubs shh
#537 [01:06] <aetherian> kealper: lolno
#538 [01:06] <Sqozza> Somehow I think he's retarded.
#539 [01:07] <nevercast> akiwiguy, You're from NZ obviously :P
#540 [01:07] * aetherian likes shotguns, he can never aim with snipers
#540 [01:07] <nevercast> Lol.
#541 [01:07] <akiwiguy> nevercast, ofcourse
#542 [01:07] <nevercast> I'm a pro-sniper
#543 [01:07] <nevercast> akiwiguy, South or North Island?
#544 [01:07] <akiwiguy> nevercast, North. i'm in auckland
#545 [01:07] <nevercast> I'm in Christchurch :)
#546 [01:07] <akiwiguy> nevercast, cool
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#548 [01:08] <Criminal0> k, im off to bed, ill try it again in the mrning .. thx all
#549 [01:09] <Arkose> only 7 PM here!
#550 [01:09] <Arkose> the future rocks!
#551 [01:09] <akiwiguy> :D
#552 [01:09] * akiwiguy is watching Campbell Live
#552 [01:09] <akiwiguy> something on about Scott Guy
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#554 [01:10] <nevercast> Kealper, You were kicked from the server!
#555 [01:10] <nevercast> :(
#556 [01:10] <Kealper> that was impressive
#557 [01:10] <nevercast> What was O.o
#558 [01:10] <nevercast> Lol.
#559 [01:10] <BadNetMan> kealper, have you sensed a couple milliseconds of difference?
#560 [01:10] <Kealper> BadNetMan: stop embarassing yourself :/
#561 [01:10] <AG_Elias> ^
#562 [01:11] <Kealper> nevercast: i actually would like to know how you did that, if you don't mind telling me in pm
#563 [01:11] <nevercast> Lol
#564 [01:12] <BadNetMan> lol
#565 [01:12] <BadNetMan> I'm moreso doing this to spite my sister
#566 [01:12] <BadNetMan> :)
#567 [01:12] <BadNetMan> who is on the same router
#568 [01:12] * AuBot kicked BadNetMan from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
#569 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Lag flood for the win
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#571 [01:13] <aetherian> nack
#572 [01:13] <aetherian> back
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#574 [01:18] <aetherian> :)
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#576 [01:19] <nevercast> LOL!!
#577 [01:19] <nevercast> I killed my ne
#578 [01:19] <nevercast> *net
#579 [01:19] <nevercast> I had to go from wlan to eth
#580 [01:19] <nevercast> because I crashed the wireless part of my router
#581 [01:19] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#581 [01:19] * Kealper facedesks
#581 [01:20] <Kealper> i remember telling aetherian the exact same thing before he started failing -.-
#582 [01:20] <Arkose> are you sure you didn't just bump the WiFi switch? ;)
#583 [01:20] <aetherian> lmao
#584 [01:20] <nevercast> Lol Nah I just forgot to change the interval correctly
#585 [01:20] <nevercast> Arkose, No no, I know what happened.
#586 [01:20] <aetherian> kealper: I wasn't failing
#587 [01:20] <Arkose> and knowing is half the battle.
#588 [01:20] <aetherian> I was doing exactly as I had planned
#589 [01:20] <nevercast> Kealper, I had it set to one nano second, instead of 1 second
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#593 [01:22] <nevercast_> -.-"
#594 [01:23] <nevercast_> I'm crafting my packets incorrectly
#595 [01:23] <nevercast_> knocking out my switch
#596 [01:24] <aetherian> see: fail
#597 [01:24] <aetherian> nevercast
#598 [01:24] <Sqozza> Says you
#599 [01:24] <aetherian> quit typing "import fail"
#600 [01:24] * Sqozza coughs
#600 [01:24] <aetherian> squozza: go take some medicine
#601 [01:25] <Sqozza> Go take a lesson in tabcomplete and/or typing.
#602 [01:25] <Kealper> fail lol
#603 [01:26] <nevercast_> Kealper, How's that port 100 service feeling?
#604 [01:26] <aetherian> oh whatever
#605 [01:26] <aetherian> lolnevercast
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#607 [01:28] <aetherian> ow ow ow
#608 [01:28] <aetherian> don't ping me
#609 [01:28] <nevercast_> aetherian, Kealper is lagging
#610 [01:28] <nevercast_> ping him
#611 [01:28] <aetherian> lolno
#612 [01:28] <aetherian> I'm trying to read a webcomic
#613 [01:29] <Arkose> you can't read here, this is Creeper country!
#614 [01:29] <aetherian> o.o
#615 [01:30] <nevercast_> Arkose, Can you visit 67.177.131.104 for me?
#616 [01:30] <nevercast_> Arkose, Is it working fine?
#617 [01:30] <nevercast_> aetherian, You too
#618 [01:30] <nevercast_> aetherian, 67.177.131.104 please
#619 [01:30] <Sqozza> Now THAT is a cool skin.
#620 [01:30] <Sqozza> http://dog.fpsbanana.com/ss/srends/39269.jpg
#621 [01:31] <aetherian> it is
#622 [01:31] <Arkose> authentication issues again D:
#623 [01:31] <aetherian> it's working quite fine
#624 [01:31] <nevercast_> aetherian, It's working?
#625 [01:31] <nevercast_> Really
#626 [01:31] <aetherian> ...yes
#627 [01:31] <nevercast_> that sucks!
#628 [01:31] <aetherian> lol
#629 [01:31] <aetherian> are you using loic?
#630 [01:31] <nevercast_> Fuck no
#631 [01:31] <nevercast_> hping3
#632 [01:31] <aetherian> phew
#633 [01:31] <nevercast_> LOIC is noob shit
#634 [01:31] <aetherian> well let me tell you
#635 [01:31] <Kealper> yes.....yes i am..but i can garuntee that is not from you aetherian
#636 [01:31] <AndrewPH> nevercast_, Heh, you're a complete moron.
#637 [01:32] <nevercast_> AndrewPH, What makes you say that?
#638 [01:32] <Sqozza> AndrewPH, welcome to #MineCraftHelp
#639 [01:32] <Sqozza> Come for the trolls.
#640 [01:32] <AndrewPH> nevercast_, Please, lern2dos
#641 [01:32] <Sqozza> Stay for the idiocy.
#642 [01:32] <aetherian> you're not flooding unless your irc is lagging :D
#643 [01:32] <nevercast_> AndrewPH, I am :)
#644 [01:32] <nevercast_> AndrewPH, I'm Syn Flooding actually
#645 [01:32] <AndrewPH> nevercast_, okay mr connection reset by peer
#646 [01:32] <nevercast_> Ha that was because I spammed my router
#647 [01:32] <AndrewPH> yeah i noticed
#648 [01:32] <nevercast_> When I was on wireless
#649 [01:32] <nevercast_> Been fine since Wlan
#650 [01:32] <nevercast_> Eh
#651 [01:32] <nevercast_> ethernet
#652 [01:32] <AndrewPH> you're just a baddie
#653 [01:33] <AndrewPH> its ok
#654 [01:33] <Sqozza> goddamn,
#655 [01:33] <AndrewPH> there's a reason meth exists
#656 [01:33] <Sqozza> barret m95 reskin for the AWP
#657 [01:33] <Sqozza> :D
#658 [01:33] <aetherian> I thought ethernet went through the router too...
#659 [01:33] <AndrewPH> to make baddies feel good
#660 [01:33] <nevercast_> lol.
#661 [01:33] <nevercast_> aetherian, It does. But I flooded out all the wifi bandwidth and the connection dropped out
#662 [01:33] <nevercast_> aetherian, Doesn't seem to happen with ethernet
#663 [01:33] <Sqozza> i need to download FO3.
#664 [01:33] <aetherian> it does with mine ;_;
#665 [01:34] <Sqozza> Anyone feel the urge to trade a normal CD key for it for a steam gift of it?
#666 [01:34] <nevercast_> Right. Going out for a bit
#667 [01:34] <nevercast_> Be back soon
#668 [01:34] <akiwiguy> Sqozza, i'll do it with Avatar - The Game
#669 [01:34] <nevercast_> Kealper, I've also concluded that my net has a smaller bandwidth than yours
#670 [01:34] <Arkose> Sqozza: so, you've lost your disc or something? IIRC you can play without the disc if you launch from the exe directly (not the launcher)
#671 [01:35] <nevercast_> Kealper, Making Dos impossible
#672 [01:35] <nevercast_> Kealper, My 0.7mbit upload doesn't compare to your ( insert large number here ) mbit download.
#673 [01:35] <Kealper> 30mbit
#674 [01:35] <nevercast_> Bigger than 0.3
#675 [01:35] <Sqozza> Arkose, I don't actually HAVE it installed.
#676 [01:35] <Sqozza> >.>
#677 [01:35] <nevercast_> Eh 0.7
#678 [01:35] <Kealper> which is why i've been saying fire away
#679 [01:35] <nevercast_> Ha
#680 [01:35] <nevercast_> Yeah
#681 [01:35] <nevercast_> ...
#682 [01:35] <Arkose> and probably nigh-unlimited bandwidth caps
#683 [01:36] <AndrewPH> nevercast_, you're just realizing that a number less than one is smaller than a number larger than 20
#684 [01:36] <AndrewPH> .-.
#685 [01:36] <Sqozza> ^ lol'd
#686 [01:36] <aetherian> lol
#687 [01:36] <akiwiguy> Sqozza, what game did you lose?
#688 [01:36] <Sqozza> FO3 GOTY
#689 [01:36] <AndrewPH> how did it take you that long to figure that out .-.
#690 [01:37] <nevercast_> AndrewPH, You're sarcasm is entertaining
#691 [01:37] <nevercast_> I give you that.
#692 [01:37] <nevercast_> -.-"
#693 [01:37] <nevercast_> *Your
#694 [01:37] <nevercast_> and my english is failing
#695 [01:37] <AndrewPH> It's not sarcasm
#696 [01:37] <nevercast_> Yes it is. It's the very definition of sarcasm
#697 [01:37] <AndrewPH> I'm being completely serious sir
#698 [01:38] <nevercast_> Good for you :)
#699 [01:38] <AndrewPH> What's really sarcastic is the kick message you're about to see...
#700 [01:38] <akiwiguy> Sqozza, fo3 kinda sucks
#701 [01:38] <Sqozza> I liked it
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#703 [01:39] <aetherian> you guys can rejoice
#704 [01:39] <akiwiguy> Portal is better
#705 [01:39] <aetherian> I'm leaving for a little
#706 [01:39] <akiwiguy> and I want Avatar The Game on Steam
#707 [01:39] <akiwiguy> i have a retail CD + key
#708 [01:39] <nevercast_> Portal is epic.
#709 [01:39] <akiwiguy> but I WANT IT ON STEAM!
#710 [01:40] <AndrewPH> ITC: nevercast is stupid
#711 [01:40] <akiwiguy> Portal is MORE EPIC THAN EVERYTHING
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#714 [01:42] <DopeGhoti> ??FO3
#715 [01:42] <nevercast> Hey DopeGhoti
#716 [01:42] <DopeGhoti> morning, kids
#717 [01:43] * AndrewPH kicked nevercast from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Dont be humble. Youre not that great.)
#718 [01:43] <AndrewPH> ~~~~~
#719 [01:43] <AndrewPH> that's just how i roll
#720 [01:43] <AndrewPH> :coolface:
#721 [01:43] <Kealper> whoops! i accidentally typed that mode in just long enough for AndrewPH to do some real damage! my mistake!
#722 [01:43] * GreyVulpine blinks
#722 [01:43] <AndrewPH> I accidentally all the useful people in the channel
#723 [01:43] <AndrewPH> whoops
#724 [01:43] <Kealper> 01:43:10 <nevercast> AndrewPH is a faggot -.-"
#725 [01:44] <AndrewPH> rofl
#726 [01:44] <Arkose> fun times
#727 [01:44] <AndrewPH> ~staying banned~
#728 [01:44] <DopeGhoti> I don't see now randomly banning someone reflects upon AndrewPH's sexual preference
#729 [01:44] <DopeGhoti> but what merited the ban, exactly?
#730 [01:45] <AndrewPH> Being a complete and utter moron, and attempting to threaten Kealper
#731 [01:45] <Kealper> andrew wanted to
#732 [01:45] <Kealper> although it was not really threatening, as i knew he would do nothing
#733 [01:45] <DopeGhoti> If 'being a moron' is a bannable offense, this channel will get very quiet very fast.
#734 [01:45] <AndrewPH> (along with an unsuccessful attempt at following through with the threat, ending up with a self-induced 'connection reset by peer' )
#735 [01:45] <Kealper> xD
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#737 [01:45] <DopeGhoti> In other words, he was harmless.
#738 [01:46] <AndrewPH> a troll, even.
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#740 [01:46] <Kealper> i want that mib's internet
#741 [01:46] <AndrewPH> Regardless, fun is fun.
#742 [01:46] <Kealper> he has fios :<
#743 [01:46] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: No you don't. It's _New Jersey_ FIOS.
#744 [01:46] <Luke|cDS> Anyone tell me if I am required to have a paypal account to buy MC?
#745 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> No.
#746 [01:46] <Kealper> oh, damn, means it smells like shit even though it's fast
#747 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> You can pay through paypal, without having an account, or you can pay through minecraft.net's credit card app
#748 [01:47] <DopeGhoti> (but not with most prepaid 'credit' cards.)
#749 [01:47] <Luke|cDS> Thanks I have done that
#750 [01:50] <DopeGhoti> Hope y'all enjoyed that. That was today's "enter, ask, listen, and leave" customer.
#751 [01:50] <lemon-rev> we need more of them lol
#752 [01:51] <DopeGhoti> Most of the people cogent enough to do that don't need our assistance, sadly, so we are left to deal with the dreck of presumed humanity.
#753 [01:51] * akiwiguy is bored and can't play Minecraft
#753 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Meh, it was better several months ago, when I first started out here..
#754 [01:51] <lemon-rev> well thats true enough but why lol
#755 [01:51] <feenyx> !check mancyclopedia.org
#756 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Actual, intelligent people, asking questions.
#757 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> Now, it's just *facepalm* after *facepalm*
#758 [01:52] <akiwiguy> bah minecraft.net is down
#759 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#760 [01:52] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#761 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#762 [01:52] <Arkose> 'tis a daily routine
#763 [01:52] <fogWraith> It's very down ;P
#764 [01:52] <feenyx> I'm still amazed at how many people think setting up a server should be a three-click process
#765 [01:53] <fogWraith> Mornin' Grey
#766 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Three click process?
#767 [01:53] <feenyx> one-click then
#768 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> There was somebody on #bukkit, yelling why it wasn't a one button press.
#769 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Couple weeks back
#770 [01:53] <Arkose> Minecraft's login screen needs to support F5 XD
#771 [01:53] <feenyx> Arkose: or you can just edit the file it uses for the text, remove what you don't like :p
#772 [01:54] <Arkose> ...what?
#773 [01:54] <fogWraith> It's possible to make a downloadable and complete package that's one click, but GOD FORBID IT HAS TEXT TO READ!
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#775 [01:54] <Arkose> commercial server hosts make it a three-click process. Not counting typing in your credit card details. ;)
#776 [01:54] <Steeeveeeoo> hey
#777 [01:55] <Arkose> hello :)
#778 [01:55] <Steeeveeeoo> Minecraft down?
#779 [01:55] <fogWraith> Yes
#780 [01:55] <Steeeveeeoo> it won't let me lof in
#781 [01:55] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: look on the bright side. We're still in the facepalm phase. Wait 'till it's *headdesk* after *headdesk*.
#782 [01:55] <DopeGhoti> !isdown www.minecraft.net
#783 [01:55] <GreyBot> DopeGhoti: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#784 [01:55] <Steeeveeeoo> k
#785 [01:55] <Arkose> but it was working like five minutes ago
#786 [01:55] <Steeeveeeoo> Maintanence?
#787 [01:56] <DopeGhoti> Or just morning in Euroland.
#788 [01:56] <Arkose> it comes and goes.
#789 [01:56] <Steeeveeeoo> k
#790 [01:56] <Arkose> sometimes it enters Schrödinger's server mode, partly working but partly not.
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#792 [01:57] <feenyx> You don't know if the server's working until you log on, and then you might kill it
#793 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Ah, here's the relevant chat. Excuse the spam
#794 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> [08:50.01am] <madsl2000> FUUUU PORTS
#795 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> [08:54.48am] <madsl2000> I OFFICALY HATE THE FUCKING PORTS
#796 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> [08:55.26am] <Kutagh> well it is a core component of PC's...
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#798 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> 08:56.00am] <madsl2000> I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT CORE COMPONENT
#799 [01:57] <Steeeveeeoo> lol
#800 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> [08:56.18am] <madsl2000> THEY SHOULD MAKE IT HIT A FUCKING BUTTON AND BOM YOU CAN RUN THE MOTHERFN SERVER
#801 [01:57] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#802 [01:57] <feenyx> allow me to provide the lulz for this occasion: http://i.imgur.com/mUxiJ.jpg
#803 [01:58] <Steeeveeeoo> wtf
#804 [01:58] <Steeeveeeoo> i'm off
#805 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Laters
#806 [01:59] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: made doubly funny by the nick implying he's on Ma's DSL.
#807 [01:59] <DopeGhoti> (or is that a one?)
#808 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> That's an l
#809 [02:00] <DopeGhoti> "It should be as easy to set up, run, and administer a game server as it was to torrent the clien.. hey, why are you looking at me like that? Put down those pitchforks! Maaaaa!"
#810 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> Bleh. The first time I diagnosed a pirated client with a bad host file in here, felt like an accomplisment.. now it's just sad.
#811 [02:01] <akiwiguy> feenyx, whaa?
#812 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> s/accomplisment/accomplishment
#813 [02:02] <feenyx> akiwiguy: also known as a facepalm?
#814 [02:02] <akiwiguy> feenyx, ohhhhh
#815 [02:02] <feenyx> if it weren't obvious
#816 [02:02] <feenyx> ^^
#817 [02:02] <akiwiguy> lols
#818 [02:02] <DopeGhoti> How very punny.
#819 [02:02] <feenyx> DopeGhoti: I see what you did there!
#820 [02:02] <DopeGhoti> you should; IRC is a visual medium.
#821 [02:02] <DopeGhoti> (unless you're using TTS)
#822 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Bah. I used to know somebody who used TTS to play on a MUD with me. Long.. long ago.
#823 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> He used to broadcast how it sounded to him, freaking had the speed turned up all the way so everything sounded chipmunky.
#824 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Was hilarious to listen.
#825 [02:05] <DopeGhoti> I know what you mean
#826 [02:05] <DopeGhoti> it's amazing how fast they can parse TTS. Even when I know what it's saying, at the speeds blind people use, it's unintelligible to those of us not hyper-attuned to hearing.
#827 [02:06] * GreyVulpine nods
#827 [02:06] <Arkose> practise by watching stuff from your DVR at 2x speed ;)
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#829 [02:06] * DopeGhoti noted with interest that the only blind people he's had to help have actually had technical issues, never PEBCAK errors.
#829 [02:07] <Arkose> haha
#830 [02:07] <Arkose> now who's disabled???
#831 [02:07] <DopeGhoti> erm, what?
#832 [02:07] <feenyx> well I take it they have a higher threshold for admitting defeat
#833 [02:07] <feenyx> aswell
#834 [02:08] <DopeGhoti> I'd imagine, in most cases, so.
#835 [02:08] * akiwiguy needs a new computer
#835 [02:08] <Arkose> build your own if you're up to the challenge :)
#836 [02:08] <Arkose> http://www.ascent.co.nz
#837 [02:08] <Arkose> the NewEgg of New Zealand. Sort of.
#838 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, building a computer is not a challenge..
#839 [02:08] <DopeGhoti> It'd be interesting to see how well a skilled blind person could play pro-level professional poker; relying on strictly auditory cues to try to determing peoples' tells
#840 [02:09] <akiwiguy> Arkose, http://pricespy.co.nz/
#841 [02:09] <DopeGhoti> Building a new computer used to be a challenge back when you had to chart all your device's IRQs, I/O addresses, and DMA values for potential conflicts.
#842 [02:09] <akiwiguy> and I'm 14, and i'm broke
#843 [02:09] <Arkose> PriceSpy is cheaper yes :P
#844 [02:09] <DopeGhoti> akiwiguy: get a job?
#845 [02:09] <Arkose> in THIS economy?
#846 [02:09] <DopeGhoti> No, in that other one.
#847 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, yeah... I remember when my sound card's IRQ interfered with an ATA port..
#848 [02:10] <DopeGhoti> (I have no idea how good or bad the NZ economy is compared to those in the States)
#849 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> That was fun to diagnose
#850 [02:11] <Arkose> so many hardware-related sources of pain are gone now
#851 [02:11] <Arkose> IRQ, IDE, floppies...
#852 [02:11] <DopeGhoti> Fun was the CD-ROM controller (pre-IDE CD-ROM days) conflicting with the 16-bit IRQ on my sound card, but in a way that only showed up when wavetable MIDI was being played.
#853 [02:11] <akiwiguy> DopeGhoti, I can't.
#854 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> Oooo
#855 [02:12] <DopeGhoti> The game that caused this? The 7th Guest (:
#856 [02:12] <akiwiguy> DopeGhoti, i'm too young to get a decent job.
#857 [02:12] <akiwiguy> I do a paper round - $9 a week
#858 [02:13] <akiwiguy> but that is nowhere near enough money to get a new computer
#859 [02:13] <feenyx> DopeGhoti: I played 7th Guest on a PowerMac 6100
#860 [02:13] <fogWraith> 11th Hour!
#861 [02:13] <DopeGhoti> I never got to play 11th Hour
#862 [02:13] <fogWraith> ;O
#863 [02:13] <fogWraith> I still own the box, though can't rely on the CD quality now ;/
#864 [02:13] <fogWraith> Good game
#865 [02:13] <akiwiguy> feenyx, I had a PowerMac 6100/60 with fuckall ram
#866 [02:13] <akiwiguy> and running OS 9
#867 [02:14] <feenyx> my mates dad was a graphic artist/painter/sculptor back then, so apparently they needed a Mac :p
#868 [02:14] <akiwiguy> can you say "LAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG"?
#869 [02:14] <DopeGhoti> Gah. Love to nostalgize more, but I need to sleep. Court in the morning. (I get to convince the City of $Hometown that they should not, in fact, charge me $260 for turning right at a red light)
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#871 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> G'luck DopeGhoti.
#872 [02:15] <feenyx> meh, I supposed I should maybe do some work
#873 [02:15] <fogWraith> Ghoti, the rebel
#874 [02:15] <feenyx> you know, seeing as I'm at work
#875 [02:15] <fogWraith> feenyx: I'm at work too ;P
#876 [02:16] <fogWraith> Teamviewer <3
#877 [02:16] <DopeGhoti> feenyx: where do you think I do most of my IRCing from? :) Anywho; ciao
#878 [02:17] <akiwiguy> anyone feel like giving me some money>
#879 [02:17] <akiwiguy> ?
#880 [02:17] <fogWraith> I can give you A THOUSAND silver on my server? :P
#881 [02:17] * GreyVulpine gives akiwiguy one internet tubes.
#881 [02:17] <fogWraith> That's "money"
#882 [02:18] <akiwiguy> REAL money.
#883 [02:18] <akiwiguy> fogWraith, whats the ip of your server?
#884 [02:18] <fogWraith> Do a whois on me, then add port 8888 ;P
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#886 [02:19] <akiwiguy> im not typing in fh244n1-oes-d4.ias.bredband.telia.com:8888
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#888 [02:19] <fogWraith> Aw, resolve the hostname to an ip then ;)
#889 [02:19] <akiwiguy> thats what whois gives me
#890 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Non-authoritative answer:
#891 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Name: fh244n1-oes-d4.ias.bredband.telia.com
#892 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Address: 217.211.17.244
#893 [02:20] <nevercast> akiwiguy, nslookup fh244n1-oes-d4.ias.bredband.telia.com
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#895 [02:20] <akiwiguy> 217.211.17.244
#896 [02:20] <fogWraith> \o/
#897 [02:20] <akiwiguy> baaaah
#898 [02:20] <akiwiguy> !isdown minecraft.net
#899 [02:20] <GreyBot> akiwiguy: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#900 [02:20] <akiwiguy> pfft
#901 [02:21] <fogWraith> Mojang wins
#902 [02:21] <nevercast> Heh
#903 [02:21] <nevercast> fogWraith, LOL! 217.211.17.244 redirects to www.217.211.17.244
#904 [02:21] <nevercast> Then of course, fails.
#905 [02:21] <fogWraith> It does?
#906 [02:22] <akiwiguy> 503 for minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp
#907 [02:22] <nevercast> ye'
#908 [02:22] <fogWraith> Must be the apache config if you're going via the browser
#909 [02:22] <akiwiguy> :/
#910 [02:22] <nevercast> yah
#911 [02:22] <fogWraith> No catchall
#912 [02:22] <nevercast> well.. no
#913 [02:22] <nevercast> It redirects after the page loads
#914 [02:22] <nevercast> I think it's PHP or Javascript
#915 [02:22] <fogWraith> Oh
#916 [02:22] <fogWraith> The htaccess of one of the domains thats first in the vhost conf
#917 [02:23] <fogWraith> Never bothered with fixing apache conf since it works when you want to go to a specifik domain ;P
#918 [02:23] <nevercast> haha yeah fair enough
#919 [02:24] <fogWraith> I'll add an entry for the IP alone later though, if it will set your mind at ease ))
#920 [02:24] <fogWraith> ;)*
#921 [02:24] <nevercast> Haha I probably wont visit the site again so it doesn't bother me too much :)
#922 [02:24] <nevercast> fogWraith, Are you much of a programmer? Do any at all?
#923 [02:24] <Kealper> nevercast: took fucking ages, but i figured out how you did that, turns out i suck and a recent update to my chat server broke the check for usernames that are already in use
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#925 [02:25] <Kealper> so...that was 100% a fail on my part
#926 [02:25] <fogWraith> I've been doing my fair share of programming, yeah ;P
#927 [02:25] <nevercast> Kealper, Yeah hence why I said. What's there to explain :)
#928 [02:25] <akiwiguy> i cant do multiplayer now
#929 [02:25] <nevercast> akiwiguy, Why not :)
#930 [02:25] <Arkose> the system is down.
#931 [02:25] <nevercast> So..
#932 [02:25] <akiwiguy> minecraft.net is down
#933 [02:25] <Kealper> and yes, that web chat client sucks nuts, it was just to see if i could make my own http server
#934 [02:25] <nevercast> Launch Minecraft client without the launcher and it doesn't check..
#935 [02:26] <nevercast> Thought it does need the join and check scripts from the server...
#936 [02:26] <akiwiguy> thats where it fails
#937 [02:26] <akiwiguy> 503 for minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp
#938 [02:26] <akiwiguy> after i type in the IP and hit connect
#939 [02:26] <nevercast> That's where we write our own webservers and use our hosts files / constantpool editing. To redirect minecraft to our own servers :)
#940 [02:26] <Kealper> so set your server in offline mode
#941 [02:26] <nevercast> ... or that
#942 [02:26] <nevercast> LOL
#943 [02:26] <fogWraith> Le gasp!
#944 [02:27] <nevercast> fogWraith, What languages?
#945 [02:27] <Kealper> and nevercast been there, done that with your suggestion, it's quite easy
#946 [02:27] <akiwiguy> can someone set up a public server that i can just stick in my hosts file?
#947 [02:27] <akiwiguy> i cant install apache
#948 [02:27] <akiwiguy> and i dont know what to do
#949 [02:27] <akiwiguy> fuck windows
#950 [02:27] <Kealper> akiwiguy: rawr
#951 [02:27] <nevercast> Kealper, Which method. The own server?
#952 [02:27] <nevercast> I'll do it lol..
#953 [02:27] <Kealper> open your server.properties on your server and set online-mode to false
#954 [02:27] <Kealper> restart it, it will let you in
#955 [02:28] <nevercast> hmm.. Is it his server though
#956 [02:28] <fogWraith> nevercast: QB -> VB -> C++ -> (freebasic) -> C#
#957 [02:28] <nevercast> Wow..
#958 [02:28] <fogWraith> I've tried Java and other languages though
#959 [02:28] <akiwiguy> fogWraith, edit your server.properties, set online-mode to false, restart server
#960 [02:28] <fogWraith> How about... no? :P
#961 [02:28] <nevercast> fogwraith, Qbasic 4.5 -> Visual Basic3 -> Visual Basic .NET -> C++ -> C -> ASM -> C#
#962 [02:28] <nevercast> In there was Java and Python at some points
#963 [02:28] <Kealper> and nevercast i made an http passthrough that would let the server check other things without problem, but would already return a yes when it wanted to check if a user paid
#964 [02:29] <fogWraith> I tried ASM, the learning curve was too much while I was working with other stuff though ;/
#965 [02:29] <nevercast> Kealper, Pretty cool :)
#966 [02:29] <akiwiguy> fogWraith, why not?
#967 [02:29] <Kealper> mmm Visual Basic....the herpes of programming languages
#968 [02:29] <fogWraith> ^ AutoIT
#969 [02:29] <nevercast> Kealper, I personally hate the language
#970 [02:29] <nevercast> It's gross.
#971 [02:29] <Kealper> fogWraith: don't hate lol
#972 [02:29] <fogWraith> Lol
#973 [02:29] <nevercast> fogWraith, I was doing Java programming when I was writing scripts for ARGA... Back in the Runescape Botting Days :P
#974 [02:29] <Kealper> atleast it's better than VB >.>
#975 [02:30] <nevercast> fogWraith, Then Java again when coding on the WOEmu server back when it was around.
#976 [02:30] <fogWraith> I personally hated Java
#977 [02:30] <fogWraith> Still do, in fact
#978 [02:30] <nevercast> I dislike it, but I'll use it if I have to
#979 [02:30] <nevercast> That said, I'll avoid it as much as possible
#980 [02:31] <nevercast> C# runs on all platforms in most cases. So Java can stick it
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#982 [02:31] <fogWraith> Apart from the few leaks Mono has, C# is nice
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#984 [02:31] <nevercast> O'Hey Mibbit user :)
#985 [02:32] <Watcher> is something wrong with the servers?
#986 [02:32] <fogWraith> Funny how most are introduced to BASIC at young ages though
#987 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#988 [02:33] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#989 [02:33] <Watcher> ya cant even log in
#990 [02:34] <nevercast> fogWraith, Yeah I was around 11 / 12 when I started my QBasic journey
#991 [02:34] <Kealper> fogWraith: what's wrong with BASIC? lol
#992 [02:34] <fogWraith> Oh, nothing, but the fact that some stick with them for life :P
#993 [02:34] <fogWraith> VB for instance
#994 [02:34] <Watcher> guess they have the servers off line?
#995 [02:34] <fogWraith> Do you even realize how many VB6 apps are still being pumped out on a daily basis? It makes my soul hurt ;/
#996 [02:35] <Kealper> i've been trying to move off AutoIt but i just can't bring myself to do it...it's just too powerful for how easy it is to throw something together :/
#997 [02:35] <nevercast> Hmm
#998 [02:36] <nevercast> I don't even know what AutoIT is
#999 [02:36] <nevercast> It's always C# for me
#1000 [02:36] <Kealper> AutoIt*
#1001 [02:36] <nevercast> C# or Shell Scripts
#1002 [02:36] <nevercast> Kealper, Held shift for too long. My mistake.
#1003 [02:36] <Kealper> oh, some call it AutoIT because they suck, like fog lol
#1004 [02:36] <nevercast> Lol.
#1005 [02:36] <fogWraith> Shush you, Kealper :P
#1006 [02:36] <Kealper> :P
#1007 [02:37] <fogWraith> Don't make me visit you at night again, with kerosine :P
#1008 [02:37] <Kealper> :o
#1009 [02:37] <akiwiguy> fogWraith, PLEASE change your server.properties
#1010 [02:37] <fogWraith> Fine, gimme a sec
#1011 [02:37] <Kealper> lol i take it he plays on your server?
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#1013 [02:37] <Watcher> did the minecraft servers crash and npo one has reset them?
#1014 [02:38] <fogWraith> Not to my knowledge ;P
#1015 [02:38] <fogWraith> It's back up akiwiguy
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#1017 [02:39] <Kealper> michigan is dieing again
#1018 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> Heh
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#1020 [02:39] <Watcher> im in florida and cant get in
#1021 [02:39] <Arkose> the system is down. It hates you no matter where you live.
#1022 [02:40] <Watcher> hehe
#1023 [02:40] <fogWraith> :P
#1024 [02:40] <Kealper> well this sucks
#1025 [02:40] <fogWraith> Oh yeah, akiwiguy, If you want to try something fun, try /goto nether
#1026 [02:41] <fogWraith> Pray they don't find you down there
#1027 [02:41] <akiwiguy> hmmm
#1028 [02:41] <Kealper> my chat server i made has trouble with keeping server to server links open for an extended time...it messes up the check for online names :/
#1029 [02:41] <Kealper> and my minecraft to kchat chat bridge uses a server to server link to work u.u
#1030 [02:42] <fogWraith> O_o
#1031 [02:42] * Kealper restarts his chat server in debug mode
#1031 [02:43] <Watcher> Minecraft is broken and cant startm hehe
#1032 [02:43] <ItsCriminal> is minecraft down?
#1033 [02:43] <fogWraith> FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
#1034 [02:43] <aetherian> BACK
#1035 [02:43] * fogWraith spills coffee on ze legs
#1035 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> Owie
#1036 [02:43] <Watcher> ya i cant get past the login screen
#1037 [02:44] <fogWraith> Owie indeed ;/
#1038 [02:44] <ItsCriminal> damn -.-
#1039 [02:44] <fogWraith> Bonus though, ima smell of delicious coffee all day
#1040 [02:44] <nevercast> Ya know what...
#1041 [02:44] <nevercast> We need a status update
#1042 [02:45] <nevercast> YES MINECRAFT IS DOWN!!
#1043 [02:45] <nevercast> s/status/topic/
#1044 [02:45] <Arkose> but during the Schrödinger's moments it would change constantly :P
#1045 [02:45] <fogWraith> Haharrr ;)
#1046 [02:46] <aetherian> whaa
#1047 [02:46] <aetherian> minecraft is down ;_;
#1048 [02:46] <Arkose> indeed.
#1049 [02:47] <Watcher> if you were in the game you will stay in the game but if you log out you cant get back in
#1050 [02:47] * aetherian logs out
#1050 [02:47] <aetherian> fuuu
#1051 [02:47] <Watcher> oh its up now cool
#1052 [02:48] <ItsCriminal> i better log in an stay logged in ^^
#1053 [02:48] <aetherian> the wooorld is saaaved
#1054 [02:49] <ItsCriminal> :P
#1055 [02:53] <nevercast> fogWraith, My NBTTreeViewerControl for .NET is coming along nicely :)
#1056 [02:53] <nevercast> fogWraith, Just going to add the Context Menus for right clicking :D
#1057 [02:53] <akiwiguy> fogWraith, most things are locked, because im not logged in
#1058 [02:54] <akiwiguy> because minecraft.net is down
#1059 [02:54] <akiwiguy> so, chests, dispensers, etc are locked
#1060 [02:54] <fogWraith> nevercast: oho? ;)
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#1063 [02:54] <fogwraith> Nice, xchat crash
#1064 [02:54] <nevercast> Heh
#1065 [02:55] <fogwraith> akiwiguy: the reason things area locked is because players own them ;P
#1066 [02:55] <fogwraith> are*
#1067 [02:55] <nevercast> Fedora 14, 64bit. Kernel 2.6.35
#1068 [02:55] <fogwraith> Fedora <3
#1069 [02:55] <nevercast> fogwraith, Why such an old version of xChat?
#1070 [02:55] <fogwraith> "stable"
#1071 [02:56] <fogwraith> But I'm sure theres a newer in the test cat.
#1072 [02:56] <nevercast> -fogwraith- VERSION xchat 0.26.1
#1073 [02:56] <nevercast> -nevercast- VERSION xchat 2.8.6
#1074 [02:56] <fogwraith> Ima have a look
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#1077 [02:58] <fogwraith> Nice, plenty of test updates, like new nvidia drivers and such, I'll look at those when I get home though ;P
#1078 [02:58] <fogwraith> Usually just mess things up
#1079 [03:00] <akiwiguy> fogwraith, i mean in some place where its supposed to be free stuff
#1080 [03:01] <fogwraith> I see
#1081 [03:01] <akiwiguy> everything was locked
#1082 [03:01] <fogwraith> Might be offline mode then
#1083 [03:01] <akiwiguy> it had signs
#1084 [03:01] <akiwiguy> saying FREE STUFF!
#1085 [03:01] <nevercast> lol.
#1086 [03:03] <fogwraith> Some player might of have locked them, don't know ;P
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#1088 [03:04] <Kealper> ircing from a mail server.....that's pretty hard core
#1089 [03:04] <nevercast> fogwraith, Woo!! Dynamic Context Menus ftw
#1090 [03:05] <nevercast> fogwraith, This thing is starting to look like an actual application
#1091 [03:05] <fogwraith> ;D
#1092 [03:05] <Kealper> wut
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#1094 [03:07] <fogWraith> How about that version then ;P
#1095 [03:08] <Kealper> better lol
#1096 [03:08] <Kealper> my ex-chat version is still the bestest though!
#1097 [03:09] <fogWraith> Lies ;)
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#1099 [03:10] <Kealper> i should run irssi on my windows server....just because
#1100 [03:10] <nevercast> Kealper, fogWraith, This is what I'm babbling about: http://i55.tinypic.com/xmiow8.png
#1101 [03:11] <Kealper> wait a tick
#1102 [03:11] <Kealper> derp
#1103 [03:11] <Kealper> you were in here earier with a different nick iirc lol
#1104 [03:11] <nevercast> Lol you derp'd
#1105 [03:11] <nevercast> No I wasn't
#1106 [03:11] <Kealper> oh, do i just suck that much then?
#1107 [03:11] <nevercast> I was on Mibbit, But I was still nevercast.
#1108 [03:11] * Kealper scrolls up
#1108 [03:12] <nevercast> lol.
#1109 [03:12] <fogWraith> nevercast, om nom nom ;O
#1110 [03:12] <netherian> heh
#1111 [03:12] <nevercast> fogWraith, I stole Visual Studios icons :P
#1112 [03:12] <nevercast> fogWraith, Makes me feel more comfortable :P
#1113 [03:12] <fogWraith> Aren't they default? been so long since I used VS
#1114 [03:13] <nevercast> They are default inside Visual Studio sure
#1115 [03:13] <nevercast> but not in the Applications you create
#1116 [03:13] <fogWraith> Ah
#1117 [03:13] <Kealper> wow....i did derp hard
#1118 [03:13] <nevercast> That Tree view isn't any auto-magic VS thing. It's a shit load of iteration :P
#1119 [03:13] <nevercast> Kealper, Case throw you off?
#1120 [03:14] <NeverCast> Kealper, Better?
#1121 [03:14] <Kealper> wasn't even different case
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#1123 [03:14] <nevercast> lol.
#1124 [03:14] <Kealper> i just sucked at remembering who you were from eaier
#1125 [03:14] <Kealper> earlier*
#1126 [03:14] <nevercast> Ahh well.
#1127 [03:14] <nevercast> Shit happens.
#1128 [03:14] <Kealper> meh
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#1130 [03:14] <Kealper> brb, getting some nachos
#1131 [03:15] <nevercast> yum
#1132 [03:15] <netherian> ;_;
#1133 [03:15] <netherian> I wish I had nachos
#1134 [03:15] <nevercast> Hmm.. how to handle changes..
#1135 [03:15] <nevercast> I think if I make a change to a node
#1136 [03:15] <nevercast> I'll just delete that node and rebuild entirely
#1137 [03:16] <nevercast> Going to be a bitch if that node has lots of children lol.
#1138 [03:16] <fogWraith> ;P
#1139 [03:16] <nevercast> Well if anyone ever used the Halo map editors
#1140 [03:16] <nevercast> Those things went Not Responding after each change.. so my program isn't so bad
#1141 [03:16] <SinZ> huh
#1142 [03:16] <SinZ> oh
#1143 [03:16] <SinZ> nvm
#1144 [03:16] <nevercast> O.o
#1145 [03:16] <nevercast> lol.
#1146 [03:16] <fogWraith> Oh lord, this laptop isn't very nice ;/
#1147 [03:17] <nevercast> O.o
#1148 [03:17] <fogWraith> HP Compaq NX9105
#1149 [03:17] <Kealper> O.o
#1150 [03:17] * fogWraith reinstalls XP on it
#1150 [03:17] <Kealper> install windows vista on it...it'll grow wings and fly!
#1151 [03:18] <fogWraith> Right now, it takes 20-30 minutes for the HDD to stop churning after booting into Win
#1152 [03:18] <Kealper> lol
#1153 [03:18] <fogWraith> Killing it isn't an option, Kealper ;P
#1154 [03:18] <Kealper> what's it got right now?
#1155 [03:19] <fogWraith> Hardware or softwarewise?
#1156 [03:19] <Kealper> both, since i didn't look at it's specs lol
#1157 [03:19] <fogWraith> Random AthlonXP, shit for ram, windows XP, porn background image, tons of p2p apps
#1158 [03:20] <Kealper> LOL
#1159 [03:20] <fogWraith> It belongs to my boss's son
#1160 [03:20] <Kealper> sounds like a computer i recently fixed for someone :/
#1161 [03:21] <Kealper> install 2k sp4 on it lol
#1162 [03:21] <nevercast> ...
#1163 [03:21] <nevercast> My laptop runs Linux
#1164 [03:21] <nevercast> Just saying
#1165 [03:21] <Kealper> my router runs linux
#1166 [03:21] <nevercast> So does all 3 of mine
#1167 [03:21] <nevercast> DSL 5##T Series.. BusyBox.
#1168 [03:21] <fogWraith> :P
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#1170 [03:21] <fogWraith> 2k sp4 would be nice on this, yeah
#1171 [03:22] <nevercast> Although to be honest I have Windows 7 in Virtual Box for Visual Studio.
#1172 [03:22] <nevercast> fogWraith, Windows 2k sp4 would be nice and stable I reckon.
#1173 [03:22] <fogWraith> I used to have a P4 with pfsense for routing
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#1175 [03:24] <Elvang> Lets say I box some sheep into a room, sheer them, and go back to mining on bedrock a mile away. When I come back will those sheep still be boxed into the room I made?
#1176 [03:24] * Kealper eats home made nachos with really expensive Chef's Mate cheese
#1176 [03:24] <Kealper> Elvang: probably not
#1177 [03:24] <Elvang> :(
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#1179 [03:25] <Kealper> i have heard talk of eventually making animal farms possible though
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#1181 [03:26] <Elvang> I really want to get a stash of eggs going, but the wiki says they only get a chance of being laid every 5 minutes, and I don't want to spend all my time stalking a chicken :\
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#1183 [03:27] <Kealper> :/
#1184 [03:28] <TheBix> if only redsone went forever
#1185 [03:28] <Kealper> if only...
#1186 [03:28] <Kealper> lol
#1187 [03:28] <TheBix> and didn't burn out.
#1188 [03:28] <fogWraith> Kealper, I found a splendid router
#1189 [03:28] <Kealper> :o
#1190 [03:28] <TheBix> then I could make a ROM music machine that doesn't suck
#1191 [03:28] <fogWraith> netgear wndr3700
#1192 [03:28] <TheBix> hey I also desperately need a new router
#1193 [03:29] <TheBix> is that one good?
#1194 [03:29] <fogWraith> It's bitchingly good
#1195 [03:29] <Kealper> lol
#1196 [03:29] <fogWraith> It hasn't died yet, and I push 100/100mbit
#1197 [03:29] <TheBix> my current one has heaps of problems
#1198 [03:29] <Kealper> wow
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#1200 [03:29] <Kealper> that's decent lol
#1201 [03:29] <Kealper> is it gigabit or just 100mbit?
#1202 [03:29] <TheBix> but you can't use that in the internets can you?
#1203 [03:29] <fogWraith> Gigabit by cable
#1204 [03:29] <Kealper> nice
#1205 [03:30] <Kealper> TheBix: he actually has 100/100 mbit/sec internet lol
#1206 [03:30] <fogWraith> So I have gigabit locally, 100mbit wan
#1207 [03:30] <Kealper> did you just get this? lol
#1208 [03:30] <TheBix> lol so his ISP lets him use that much?
#1209 [03:30] <TheBix> omfg
#1210 [03:30] <fogWraith> The router? Yes
#1211 [03:30] <TheBix> I only get 20 mbit most :(
#1212 [03:30] <fogWraith> I got a cisco switch too, goddamn good stuff
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#1214 [03:30] <TheBix> fogWraith: that router is wireless right?
#1215 [03:30] <Kealper> do a speed test again, i think the one you did a while back was 90/70 or something
#1216 [03:30] <fogWraith> It is
#1217 [03:31] <TheBix> coolbeans
#1218 [03:31] * fogWraith looks
#1218 [03:31] <Elvang> Water ladders work in this version right?
#1219 [03:31] <fogWraith> Ragemuffins on flash content through teamviewer
#1220 [03:32] <TheBix> fogWraith: how much is it
#1221 [03:32] <TheBix> better not be like 200 dollars or something lol
#1222 [03:32] <Kealper> cheaper
#1223 [03:32] <Kealper> like $110 or something
#1224 [03:32] <fogWraith> I spent 420 dollars all in all, that included cables and new NIC's
#1225 [03:32] <Kealper> OH the router
#1226 [03:32] <Kealper> ignore me then
#1227 [03:32] <fogWraith> What? :P
#1228 [03:33] <TheBix> my one is so shit. We had this awesome one, and then when we changed isps and the indians who did it told us we could keep our current router
#1229 [03:33] <Kealper> my speed test sucked just now :/
#1230 [03:33] <fogWraith> O_o
#1231 [03:33] <TheBix> but when they actually came they threw out our old one because they lied and it wasn't compatible
#1232 [03:33] <Kealper> peaked at like 29mbit/s down but dropped down to half that just before the test ended -.-
#1233 [03:34] <fogWraith> Trying to find a server that isn't overloaded
#1234 [03:34] <Kealper> do a test on the Chicago, IL, USA server lol
#1235 [03:34] <fogWraith> Chicago? ;O
#1236 [03:34] <fogWraith> Okay
#1237 [03:34] <TheBix> now we got this $20 one. DNS breaks every now and then and it screws up connections to the internets
#1238 [03:35] <Kealper> there is only one swedish speedtest.net server?
#1239 [03:35] <fogWraith> There are two I think
#1240 [03:35] <fogWraith> Both suck
#1241 [03:35] <Kealper> lol
#1242 [03:35] <Kealper> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1147858218.png
#1243 [03:36] <fogWraith> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1147858314.png
#1244 [03:36] <fogWraith> Chicago
#1245 [03:36] <Kealper> wow that upload speed is comparibly bad to Chicago lol
#1246 [03:37] <fogWraith> It is :P
#1247 [03:37] <fogWraith> Damn atlantic
#1248 [03:38] <Kealper> that upload speed was almost the same as mine lol
#1249 [03:38] <fogWraith> :P
#1250 [03:38] <fogWraith> Lemme see, how to printscreen through teamviewer ;P
#1251 [03:39] <Kealper> wow....what the heck is up with that speedtest.net server that is right by me....
#1252 [03:39] <Kealper> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1147861005.png decent download speed, horrid ping, and "meh" upload :/
#1253 [03:39] <fogWraith> Its on crack?
#1254 [03:40] <nevercast> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1147861767.png
#1255 [03:40] <nevercast> Yay for New Zealand internet
#1256 [03:40] <Kealper> your isp is called ihug....how does that make you feel?
#1257 [03:40] <nevercast> That's what $120/mo gets you people.
#1258 [03:40] <Arkose> yay for New Zealand bandwidth caps
#1259 [03:40] <fogWraith> ;O
#1260 [03:40] <Arkose> they iHug your wallet, that's for sure
#1261 [03:40] <Kealper> mine is $60
#1262 [03:40] <nevercast> Kealper, Actually my isp is called Vodafone. They bought out ihug about 3 years ago lol.
#1263 [03:41] <Kealper> fog's is like....cheap
#1264 [03:41] <TheBix> ??
#1265 [03:41] <Arkose> most of the early players have been bought out
#1266 [03:41] <fogWraith> I used to have a phone plan through vodafone :P
#1267 [03:41] <Arkose> not always for the better
#1268 [03:41] <Arkose> come on PacificFibre D:
#1269 [03:41] <fogWraith> Mine? Cheap? ;O
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#1271 [03:41] <nevercast> fogWraith, So did I. Then I moved to XT
#1272 [03:41] <nevercast> That's like Telecom
#1273 [03:41] <Kealper> brb, putting nacho cheese back
#1274 [03:41] <nevercast> or Telstra
#1275 [03:41] <nevercast> depending on where you are
#1276 [03:41] <Kealper> fogWraith: well, figuring on what speeds you get and how much that would cost in the usa, yes lol
#1277 [03:42] <TheBix> ok guys I'm testing
#1278 [03:42] <Arkose> the future of NZ broadband is being funded by the Valar. We really ARE Middle Earth.
#1279 [03:42] <Arkose> seriously. http://twitter.com/PacificFibre/statuses/25307789488295936
#1280 [03:42] <fogWraith> Ah, then yes :P
#1281 [03:42] <TheBix> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1147864042.png
#1282 [03:42] <TheBix> YEH LAD
#1283 [03:43] <TheBix> 2.8/5
#1284 [03:43] <TheBix> I bet a lot of that is my shitty router
#1285 [03:43] <Arkose> I've got more than enough speed for my purposes. It's the data cap I want more of. :/
#1286 [03:43] <nevercast> Arkose... Do you live in New Zealand?
#1287 [03:43] <Arkose> yes
#1288 [03:43] <nevercast> Arkose, Are you J_Hutch?
#1289 [03:43] <Arkose> nope
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#1291 [03:43] <nevercast> okay.
#1292 [03:43] <TheBix> Arkose: I got 75 gb on and off peak. I only ever use 50% of it per month
#1293 [03:43] <nevercast> I know a J_Hutch lol.
#1294 [03:43] <TheBix> lol
#1295 [03:43] <Arkose> I'm Arkose in game as well, if that's what your'e asking about
#1296 [03:44] <fogWraith> Kealper, I did a test now that uses "swedens official broadband test" :P
#1297 [03:44] <nevercast> J_Hutch was on the twitter link
#1298 [03:44] <TheBix> hey guys is my speed good
#1299 [03:44] <Arkose> back when this broadband plan was unlimited I could do 75GB a week if I wanted to.
#1300 [03:44] <TheBix> or crap
#1301 [03:44] <Arkose> YouTube videos in HD? Why not?
#1302 [03:44] <Arkose> om nom nom
#1303 [03:44] <Arkose> but then Telecom went all emo because people like me took them at their word that unlimited meant unlimited.
#1304 [03:44] <Arkose> om nom nom
#1305 [03:45] <TheBix> 612.5 KBS maaaaaaaateeeeeeeee!
#1306 [03:45] <TheBix> upload that is
#1307 [03:45] <Kealper> ok back.... fogWraith what was the result?
#1308 [03:45] <nevercast> Yeah.. I got in trouble with Telecom over Non-Stop txt
#1309 [03:45] <TheBix> oh wait. I actually only have 61.25 KBS
#1310 [03:45] <Arkose> heh
#1311 [03:45] <TheBix> lame
#1312 [03:45] <nevercast> They gave me two warnings, one of them being a 'FINAL WARNING'
#1313 [03:45] <nevercast> Telling me to stop my excessive usage.
#1314 [03:45] <Arkose> NON-STOP EXCEPT WHEN WE SAY STOP
#1315 [03:46] <nevercast> Hey the plan is non-stop.. So I didn't stop
#1316 [03:46] <nevercast> I reach 11,000 txts a month
#1317 [03:46] <Arkose> your plans of using SMS instead of Twitter, ruined forever!
#1318 [03:46] <nevercast> and bang they like HOLY CRAP STOP
#1319 [03:46] <nevercast> I know right!
#1320 [03:46] <TheBix> lol thats fucked
#1321 [03:46] <fogWraith> Kealper, http://www.crafted.se/screensex.png
#1322 [03:46] <TheBix> screensex.png eh?
#1323 [03:46] <nevercast> Although I think that's the problem. I have 3223 ( Facebook ) and 8987 ( Twitter ) subscribed on my phone :P
#1324 [03:46] <TheBix> I totes wanna click that
#1325 [03:46] <Arkose> it seems like they come up with these ideas as a marketing gimmick expecting nobody to actually use as much as is advertised.
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#1327 [03:47] <Arkose> and they then find out that unlimited is an awfully large volume...
#1328 [03:47] <nevercast> Haha!
#1329 [03:47] <Kealper> meh lol
#1330 [03:47] <nevercast> Yeah.. almost limit-less
#1331 [03:47] <nevercast> funny that
#1332 [03:47] <nevercast> Right.. I have written my handlers.. now to put some code inside them -.-"
#1333 [03:47] <nevercast> I hate this big
#1334 [03:47] <nevercast> *bit
#1335 [03:47] <fogWraith> ;P
#1336 [03:48] <nevercast> fogWraith, I send you sauce you write code k?
#1337 [03:48] <fogWraith> ;O
#1338 [03:48] <Kealper> lol
#1339 [03:48] <fogWraith> As if I didn't have enough on my table :P
#1340 [03:48] <nevercast> well push it onto the floor
#1341 [03:48] <fogWraith> Kealper, I would probably get better upload if I close the webserver down ;P
#1342 [03:48] <Kealper> xD
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#1344 [03:49] <Kealper> better upload....it's already like over twice my download speed :/
#1345 [03:49] <fogWraith> ;)
#1346 [03:49] * Kealper wants to live in sweden
#1346 [03:49] <Arkose> so much for NZ being in the future.
#1347 [03:50] <fogWraith> I still have a spare room to place you in ;P
#1348 [03:50] <Kealper> lol
#1349 [03:51] <Kealper> isn't sweden like..full of those "flats" for housing though?
#1350 [03:51] <fogWraith> Well, yeah
#1351 [03:51] <fogWraith> Unless you can afford an actual house
#1352 [03:52] <Kealper> meh....you can't blast music really loud in those :/
#1353 [03:52] <relsqui> this is why my friend zigdon bought a house
#1354 [03:52] <fogWraith> As long as it's before 10PM during weekdays
#1355 [03:52] <relsqui> not the *only* reason but part of it
#1356 [03:52] <fogWraith> Weekends are usually free game, unless you start to get close to 5AM
#1357 [03:52] <relsqui> play rock band as loud as we want
#1358 [03:52] <fogWraith> That pisses some off
#1359 [03:52] <Kealper> lol
#1360 [03:52] <relsqui> yeah, that's the tradeoff. if you're free to, so are your neighbors
#1361 [03:53] <relsqui> and their taste might not be as good as yours!
#1362 [03:53] <fogWraith> Their sound usually sucks in comparison to mine, so unless they want to bounce around to Metal, I suggest they keep their pop crap at a lower level
#1363 [03:53] <Kealper> yeah, a flat would not be good for me....i play too much guitar/sing/listen to rock/metal too loud :/
#1364 [03:54] <Kealper> lol fog
#1365 [03:54] <fogWraith> I tried watching a movie yesterday to my sound system at high volume, was almost licked to the wall ;/
#1366 [03:54] <Kealper> xD
#1367 [03:54] <fogWraith> TV in ze bedroom ftw
#1368 [03:55] <fogWraith> Btw, 300... awesome movie
#1369 [03:55] <Kealper> want me to say something shocking?
#1370 [03:55] <fogWraith> You shaved your mustache?
#1371 [03:55] <Kealper> i've never actually watched it all
#1372 [03:56] <fogWraith> Oh ;P
#1373 [03:56] <Kealper> PSH.....i'd never do such a thing like that
#1374 [03:56] <fogWraith> I had to trim mine ;/
#1375 [03:56] <Kealper> :O
#1376 [03:56] <Arkose> 300 is a bit less awesome if you know the historical version. ;)
#1377 [03:56] <fogWraith> The original 300 was better, but still :P
#1378 [03:57] <Arkose> I just don't understand what's up with them not being armoured...
#1379 [03:57] <fogWraith> Easier to move in your undies
#1380 [03:57] <Kealper> lol
#1381 [03:57] <fogWraith> The capes must have been a bitch though, but keeps on warm
#1382 [03:57] <fogWraith> one*
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#1384 [04:01] <fogWraith> Oh btw, Kealper Cisco SG 100D-08, sexy switch
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#1387 [04:03] <Kealper> shitty michigan internet
#1388 [04:03] <fogWraith> But it's palmsized!
#1389 [04:03] <fogWraith> ;P
#1390 [04:03] <Kealper> indeed it is, they are tiny lol
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#1392 [04:03] <Kealper> wire them up, stick them on the wall with two-face tape and they are good to go lol
#1393 [04:04] <Kealper> they also start really fast, i can unplug one and plug it back in and not DC from stuff before it starts doing it's job again, too lol
#1394 [04:05] <fogWraith> Nice ;)
#1395 [04:05] <Kealper> but....they are only 100mbit -.-
#1396 [04:05] <fogWraith> The cisco one has fancy lights, hypnotic shit ;P
#1397 [04:05] <Kealper> lol
#1398 [04:05] <fogWraith> I admit to opening the cabinet and looking at it sometimes :(
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#1400 [04:08] <fogWraith> Oooh, TinyXP has this weird AutoIt compiled app for drivers or something
#1401 [04:09] <fogWraith> What platform is AuBot running on? ;P
#1402 [04:09] <Kealper> windows, but is isn't the platform that is the problem
#1403 [04:09] <fogWraith> I know :P
#1404 [04:10] <Kealper> the entire state has been netsplitting (for lack of a better term) all night :/
#1405 [04:10] <fogWraith> Want to put it in Sweden? ;)
#1406 [04:10] <Kealper> lol
#1407 [04:11] <Kealper> i would run it under wine on this machine i'm ircing on, but i change stuff too much to do that lol
#1408 [04:11] <fogWraith> Ah ;)
#1409 [04:12] <Kealper> i find it weird how long i can be without internet without losing connection to ssh :/
#1410 [04:12] <Kealper> it's almost like it's a stateless connection....but how o.o
#1411 [04:13] <fogWraith> Magic!
#1412 [04:13] <Kealper> what is this tcp trickery!?
#1413 [04:14] <fogWraith> You must be stealing them from Mojang!
#1414 [04:14] <Kealper> :o
#1415 [04:14] <nevercast> Node renaming implemented
#1416 [04:14] <Kealper> me want: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122128
#1417 [04:15] <fogWraith> Buy it
#1418 [04:15] <Kealper> no spare monies right now :/
#1419 [04:15] <Kealper> someone's computer needs to bite the big one so i can get paid to fix it...and then get one of those lol
#1420 [04:15] <fogWraith> ;P
#1421 [04:16] <fogWraith> Then buy some http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106121
#1422 [04:16] <fogWraith> After
#1423 [04:16] <Arkose> not built into the motherboards eh?
#1424 [04:16] <fogWraith> Built in NIC's are the devil
#1425 [04:16] <Arkose> heh
#1426 [04:16] <Kealper> both my server and main computer have built in gigabit
#1427 [04:16] <Kealper> but yes, the onboard one on my server is garbage
#1428 [04:17] <Kealper> the one on my main is nice though :/
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#1430 [04:17] <fogWraith> Was garbage on all mine, since they were Atheros chippysets
#1431 [04:17] <Kealper> ouch
#1432 [04:18] <Kealper> mine are realtek 81xx ones
#1433 [04:18] <fogWraith> Fancypants :P
#1434 [04:18] <Kealper> <3 realtek adapters
#1435 [04:18] <Kealper> unless it's the cheap one on my server -.-
#1436 [04:18] <fogWraith> ;)
#1437 [04:19] <Kealper> i wish NICs would advertise the number of tx/rx buffer crap they have
#1438 [04:19] <Arkose> and ruin all your fun?
#1439 [04:19] <fogWraith> Haha
#1440 [04:20] <Arkose> they would find some way to make it look better
#1441 [04:20] <Arkose> see hard drive sizes... <_<
#1442 [04:20] <Kealper> yeah, the fun of getting it only to find out that it's not enough for Minecraft's packetspam, and then the driver buffer overflow crashes begin lol
#1443 [04:20] <Kealper> xD
#1444 [04:20] <fogWraith> ))
#1445 [04:20] <fogWraith> ;)*
#1446 [04:20] <fogWraith> Damn teamviewer
#1447 [04:20] <Kealper> so you ARE at work!
#1448 [04:20] <fogWraith> Yes :P
#1449 [04:21] <Kealper> lol
#1450 [04:21] <Kealper> :OOOOOOOOOO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106029
#1451 [04:22] <Kealper> can not make enough O-faces at that
#1452 [04:22] <fogWraith> Server NIC? :P
#1453 [04:22] <Arkose> Kealper: unless it was a double slot...
#1454 [04:22] <Arkose> (hey, it worked for GPUs...)
#1455 [04:22] <Kealper> lol
#1456 [04:23] <fogWraith> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122326
#1457 [04:23] <fogWraith> Nom nom
#1458 [04:23] <Kealper> wow http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106057
#1459 [04:23] <Kealper> dual 10gbps
#1460 [04:23] <fogWraith> Haha ;P
#1461 [04:24] <fogWraith> Btw, ISP is upgrading March 2nd here
#1462 [04:24] <fogWraith> 1000/100
#1463 [04:24] <Kealper> you will be getting that? or they will start offering it?
#1464 [04:24] <Arkose> D:
#1465 [04:24] <fogWraith> Offering
#1466 [04:24] <fogWraith> Not worth it to me
#1467 [04:24] <Kealper> oh...lol
#1468 [04:24] <fogWraith> 155 USD/mo
#1469 [04:24] <Kealper> if you were getting upgraded to that i'd have to take you up on that offer with the spare room :P
#1470 [04:25] <fogWraith> Haha ))
#1471 [04:25] <fogWraith> ;)*
#1472 [04:25] <Arkose> Sweden D:
#1473 [04:25] <Arkose> Middle Earth still stuck in the Dark Ages...
#1474 [04:25] <Kealper> sweden is just awesome like that :/
#1475 [04:25] <fogWraith> :P
#1476 [04:26] <Kealper> they also take a very "free" view of the internet....and i like that :/
#1477 [04:26] <fogWraith> They certainly do
#1478 [04:26] <Kealper> (free as in freedom not free beer)
#1479 [04:26] <fogWraith> Oh, and no limits on bandwidth use
#1480 [04:27] <Arkose> you just want to make me cry don't you? XD
#1481 [04:27] <Kealper> all the corperate BS in america is really screwing the pooch for internet here....and the draconian copyright laws....ugh..
#1482 [04:27] <Arkose> don't copy that floppy!
#1483 [04:27] <Kealper> exactly lol
#1484 [04:27] <Arkose> you wouldn't steal a baby!
#1485 [04:27] <nevercast> WOO
#1486 [04:27] <nevercast> I can now delete tags :)
#1487 [04:28] <Kealper> "You wouldn't steal a car..." "I would if I could, damnit!"
#1488 [04:29] <Kealper> *DISCLAIMER* Kealper is not held responsible for condoning the theft of anything, especially cars.
#1489 [04:29] <nevercast> Lol!
#1490 [04:29] <nevercast> That's going on my Facebook status.
#1491 [04:29] <fogWraith> I would definately download a car
#1492 [04:30] <Kealper> and if you use a real irc client.... *this will be bold >.>*
#1493 [04:30] <fogWraith> Bah ;P
#1494 [04:30] <fogWraith> What should I use then? =P
#1495 [04:30] <Kealper> _irssi+
#1496 [04:30] <Kealper> shit
#1497 [04:30] <Kealper> _irssi_
#1498 [04:30] <GLaDOS> bitches dont know about my boldtext
#1499 [04:30] <Kealper> :o
#1500 [04:30] <fogWraith> Lulz, hey GLaDOS
#1501 [04:30] <nevercast> HOLY SHIT
#1502 [04:30] <GLaDOS> or my underline text
#1503 [04:30] <Kealper> NOWAI
#1504 [04:31] <GLaDOS> YAWAI
#1505 [04:31] <nevercast> NO WAI
#1506 [04:31] <nevercast> Damn it
#1507 [04:31] <Arkose> you kids and your mIRCs
#1508 [04:31] <GLaDOS> ORLY
#1509 [04:31] <nevercast> You said it before I did :(
#1510 [04:31] <Kealper> OR THIS
#1511 [04:31] <nevercast> YARLY!!
#1512 [04:31] <GLaDOS> actually, xchat 2.8 here
#1513 [04:31] <Kealper> irssi 0.8.15 here :P
#1514 [04:31] <nevercast> OR THAT <
#1515 [04:31] <nevercast> xchat 2.8
#1516 [04:31] <GLaDOS> problem?
#1517 [04:31] <nevercast> CTCP version ftw
#1518 [04:31] <GLaDOS> good luck ctcpversionin meh
#1519 [04:31] <Kealper> i wonder if i can version myself
#1520 [04:32] <fogWraith> Nothing wrong with xchat ;P
#1521 [04:32] <nevercast> -GLaDOS- VERSION ApertureIRC on GLaDOS 4.13 [Intel/AMD/212.29GHz]
#1522 [04:32] <Kealper> i can :o
#1523 [04:32] <nevercast> 212Ghz my ass
#1524 [04:32] <Arkose> fogWraith: except the fact that they cost money? :P
#1525 [04:32] <nevercast> What?
#1526 [04:32] <fogWraith> Compile = free
#1527 [04:32] <fogWraith> Binary = cost
#1528 [04:32] <nevercast> LOL
#1529 [04:32] <fogWraith> Thats what I thought it was
#1530 [04:32] <nevercast> Wrong!
#1531 [04:32] <nevercast> XChat binary for Linux == Free
#1532 [04:32] <Arkose> compile? Do I look like a Linux user to you? ;)
#1533 [04:32] <GLaDOS> Arkose: lrn2toreent then patch
#1534 [04:32] <nevercast> YChat ( XChat2) Binary for Windows == Free
#1535 [04:32] <Arkose> or that yes
#1536 [04:32] <fogWraith> Rawr
#1537 [04:33] <nevercast> Learn to Google
#1538 [04:33] <Arkose> learn2useanotherclient
#1539 [04:33] <GLaDOS> xchat is open sauce shaerware, thus patching is legal
#1540 [04:33] <Kealper> from my understanding they only charge for the windows binaries because "it's a hastle to compile on windows"
#1541 [04:33] <GLaDOS> hm, i wonder why the education department hasnt contacted me yet about not attenting remote schooling :l
#1542 [04:34] <Kealper> paraphrased from their reason
#1543 [04:34] <Arkose> a hassle to compile on the most popular OS with the widest choice of IDEs eh?
#1544 [04:34] <GLaDOS> Kealper: then give the compiling to a bawss, like me
#1545 [04:34] <fogWraith> ;P
#1546 [04:34] <Kealper> lol
#1547 [04:34] <Arkose> and then he compiles it
#1548 [04:34] <Arkose> like a boss
#1549 [04:34] <Arkose> and drinks their coffee
#1550 [04:34] <Arkose> like a boss
#1551 [04:34] <GLaDOS> LIKE A BOSS
#1552 [04:34] <fogWraith> Oh shit! my coffee is still in the kitchen somewhere
#1553 [04:35] <GLaDOS> !google The lonely island - like a boss
#1554 [04:35] <GLaDOS> erm
#1555 [04:35] <Kealper> bonus points for reading that in The Lonely Island's song voice
#1556 [04:35] <Kealper> +google
#1557 [04:35] <GreyBot> Kealper has activated the AdvancedGoogle script for #MineCraftHelp .
#1558 [04:35] <Kealper> -google
#1559 [04:35] <GreyBot> Kealper has deactivated the AdvancedGoogle script for #MineCraftHelp .
#1560 [04:35] <Kealper> right then
#1561 [04:35] <Kealper> someone else try that?
#1562 [04:35] <GLaDOS> +google
#1563 [04:35] <GreyBot> GLaDOS has activated the AdvancedGoogle script for #MineCraftHelp .
#1564 [04:35] <GLaDOS> !google The lonely island - like a boss
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#1566 [04:41] <fogWraith> Fancy, does it create (a) fancy DLL file(s)?
#1567 [04:41] <fogWraith> Fancy, such a fancy word
#1568 [04:41] <nevercast> Haha indeed it is
#1569 [04:41] <nevercast> and yes it creates (a) DLL File(s)
#1570 [04:42] <fogWraith> ;)
#1571 [04:42] <Kealper> hmm...esper needs a chicago leaf...
#1572 [04:42] <nevercast> Best thing about Linux / Gnome
#1573 [04:42] <nevercast> is the workspaces
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#1575 [04:45] <Arkose> one more reason to not bother visiting...
#1576 [04:45] <Kealper> like seriously....is eldridge.esper just sucking or what?
#1577 [04:45] <fogWraith> irssi waits? ;P
#1578 [04:46] <Kealper> sadly....it's nice with those version request spambots though lol
#1579 [04:49] <nevercast> !ping
#1580 [04:49] <GreyBot> nevercast Your Ping time was 0.5 Seconds.
#1581 [04:49] <nevercast> WOO
#1582 [04:49] <nevercast> 0.5... EXACTLYH
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#1584 [04:49] <fogwrait1> !ping
#1585 [04:49] <GreyBot> fogwrait1 Your Ping time was 5.357 Seconds.
#1586 [04:49] <nevercast> LOL
#1587 [04:49] <fogWraith> It's true!
#1588 [04:49] <nevercast> ^ Haha
#1589 [04:49] <fogWraith> Kealper, you suck for using irssi :P
#1590 [04:49] <nevercast> Hey man I used irssi for ages
#1591 [04:50] <fogWraith> I forgive you ;)
#1592 [04:50] <fogWraith> But Kealper!
#1593 [04:50] <nevercast> VPS + screen + irssi == God, right Kealper ?
#1594 [04:50] <Kealper> oh yes, totally
#1595 [04:50] <fogWraith> I don't know, I really have never had any use for a VPS
#1596 [04:51] <Kealper> vps? i rock a dedi >.>
#1597 [04:51] <fogWraith> Really haven't had any use for those either
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#1599 [04:51] <Kealper> that's because your internet is awesome lol
#1600 [04:51] <fogWraith> I know :P
#1601 [04:51] <Kealper> if i had that sort of internet i wouldn't need anything else either lol
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#1605 [04:54] <fogWraith> Kealper, buy me a new computer ;P
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#1608 [04:59] <Kealper> i've got this stylish, blazing-fast 1.3ghz single core celeron, with a massive 384 megabytes of PC-133mhz RAM, and a 120 gigabyte hard disk drive
#1609 [05:00] <Kealper> AUBOT.....STOP FUCKING SUCKING SO MUCH DICK -.-
#1610 [05:00] <Kealper> ._.
#1611 [05:00] <fogWraith> Haha
#1612 [05:00] <fogWraith> I have celeron CPU's laying about, thought about making keyrings out of them
#1613 [05:00] <Kealper> lol
#1614 [05:01] <nevercast> ...
#1615 [05:01] <nevercast> fogWraith, My Gaming Rig
#1616 [05:01] <nevercast> Is a Celeron
#1617 [05:01] <Kealper> ehh
#1618 [05:01] <fogWraith> :|
#1619 [05:01] <nevercast> yeah that's right
#1620 [05:01] <nevercast> 2ghz Celeron
#1621 [05:01] <nevercast> I can push it to 2.8 if I wind up the Multiplier
#1622 [05:01] * fogWraith schedules the 2.66Ghz celeron for keyring making
#1622 [05:01] <nevercast> But my Ram becomes unstable around the 400mhz mark
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#1624 [05:04] <Kealper> not aubot, i mean differnet irc server to connect to lol
#1625 [05:05] <Kealper> it and eldridge are not playing nice together
#1626 [05:05] <fogWraith> I could uh... write a socket server in bash that you can sit on? ;P
#1627 [05:05] <Kealper> lol
#1628 [05:05] <Kealper> bash irc proxy....that almost sounds as bad as autoit irc proxy lol
#1629 [05:05] <fogWraith> Meh ;)
#1630 [05:05] <Kealper> worst part
#1631 [05:06] <Kealper> i've made an irc proxy >.>
#1632 [05:06] <Kealper> a ghetto bnc of sorts...in autoit
#1633 [05:06] <Kealper> didn't work too well....and i didn't feel like rewriting it :/
#1634 [05:10] <nevercast> I figured out how to save me some work
#1635 [05:10] <nevercast> and a lot of time.
#1636 [05:10] <nevercast> MessageBox.Show("Byte arrays cannot be created or edited.", "Unsupported error", MessageBoxButtons.OK, MessageBoxIcon.Information);
#1637 [05:10] * nevercast nods in agreement with self
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#1638 [05:10] <fogWraith> :P
#1639 [05:10] <fogWraith> Cheap ;)
#1640 [05:10] <nevercast> Haha
#1641 [05:10] <Kealper> aperture.esper.net y u no respond to pings?
#1642 [05:10] <red0rdead> hey could I have some help with minecraft lagg?
#1643 [05:10] <nevercast> Hey I've written a good couple thousand lines of code today
#1644 [05:10] <nevercast> I think I've done enough :P
#1645 [05:10] <nevercast> red0rdead, Idk, Can you? :P
#1646 [05:10] <Kealper> wait a tick...MessageBox.Show....is that VB >.>
#1647 [05:10] <nevercast> Kealper, C#
#1648 [05:10] <Kealper> oh... .NET stuff...
#1649 [05:10] <nevercast> Yeah.
#1650 [05:10] <Kealper> carry on then
#1651 [05:10] <nevercast> Same API
#1652 [05:10] <nevercast> Thank you.
#1653 [05:10] <red0rdead> Is it my driver I have a NVIDIA GeForce GT 420M Graphics card
#1654 [05:10] * AuBot kicked nevercast from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
#1655 [05:10] <Kealper> fucking aubot
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#1657 [05:10] <nevercast> That wasn't nice
#1658 [05:10] <nevercast> Fix your bot!
#1659 [05:10] <Kealper> !unload mod_nospam
#1660 [05:11] <Kealper> getting it off that leaf right now, it's lagging too hard on that
#1661 [05:11] <nevercast> Ha
#1662 [05:12] <red0rdead> How do I check my system specifications?
#1663 [05:12] <fogWraith> Windows? CPU-Z!
#1664 [05:12] <red0rdead> on windows 7
#1665 [05:12] <Kealper> !rehash
#1666 [05:12] <nevercast> Or just [Windows Key] + PauseBreak
#1667 [05:13] <fogWraith> Windows lies
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#1669 [05:14] <Kealper> anywho
#1670 [05:14] <red0rdead> So my processor is a intel core i5-460M processor.
#1671 [05:15] <Kealper> next time it DCes it will get on canis, so...hopefully that won't be too long
#1672 [05:15] <Kealper> !load mod_nospam
#1673 [05:15] <Kealper> red0rdead: what kind of lag?
#1674 [05:15] <red0rdead> and NVIDIA GeForce GT 420M graphics card.
#1675 [05:15] <red0rdead> heavy lagg ingame.
#1676 [05:15] <Kealper> like...everything is delayed or everything runs super choppy?
#1677 [05:15] <red0rdead> I can hardly look around.
#1678 [05:16] <Kealper> go in to the game settings and set view distance to Tiny and graphics to Fast
#1679 [05:16] <nevercast> ..
#1680 [05:16] <Kealper> even though that laptop should have no problems with minecraft :/
#1681 [05:16] <nevercast> LOL
#1682 [05:16] <nevercast> Yeah
#1683 [05:16] <nevercast> That's why I lol'd
#1684 [05:16] <nevercast> My laptop is a lot less powerful than that
#1685 [05:16] <nevercast> Toshiba A200
#1686 [05:16] <nevercast> Get specs!
#1687 [05:17] <Kealper> a phrase comes to mind on how much i want to open a browser and look right now..but....ehh
#1688 [05:17] <nevercast> Yet I'm running Minecraft, IRC, Docky and Visual Composite Effects, 3D Workspaces, Ubuntu and Windows 7 concurrently ( Via Virtualization ). And I'm sweet.
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#1690 [05:20] <Kealper> !rehash
#1691 [05:20] <red0rdead> and how do i do that never?
#1692 [05:21] <fogWraith> Update Java, use official gfx drivers (NON-Microshit), other than that... well, yeah
#1693 [05:21] <Kealper> ^
#1694 [05:21] <Kealper> http://java.com and http://nvidia.com
#1695 [05:21] <Kealper> and brb
#1696 [05:24] <nevercast> red0rdead, Regarding setting high priority.. I'm going to have to ask you to google it
#1697 [05:24] <nevercast> red0rdead, It's rather easy to do. It would be more difficult for me to explain than for you to look at some tutorial with images.
#1698 [05:25] <Kealper> i think i'm off to bed now...
#1699 [05:25] <nevercast> Kealper, Yeah I've gotta get up in like 5 hours
#1700 [05:26] <red0rdead> found it on my own and it didnt change much
#1701 [05:28] <Kealper> red0rdead: since i lied and i'm not gone yet, go to http://nvidia.com and download the latest drivers and install those, your computer might be doing software rendering for opengl instead of hardware
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#1703 [05:29] <nevercast> Kealper, I got errors :(
#1704 [05:29] <Kealper> :o
#1705 [05:29] * fogWraith waves the magic fixingwand of corruption +10
#1705 [05:29] <fogWraith> Oh... sorry
#1706 [05:29] <Kealper> lol
#1707 [05:30] <nevercast> Dude
#1708 [05:30] <nevercast> It worked
#1709 [05:30] <nevercast> Code is fixed :D
#1710 [05:30] <Kealper> o.o
#1711 [05:30] <fogWraith> ;D
#1712 [05:30] <nevercast> I had SelectionText instead of SelectionItem
#1713 [05:30] <nevercast> all fixeded :D
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#1715 [05:31] <fogWraith> Ohshi-
#1716 [05:31] <fogWraith> Everyone hide!
#1717 [05:31] <KillSpammer> Yeah you better fucking hide.
#1718 [05:31] <KillSpammer> I"m here bitches.
#1719 [05:31] * Kealper hides behind AuBot
#1719 [05:31] <KillSpammer> A big...
#1720 [05:31] <nevercast> *I'm
#1721 [05:31] <KillSpammer> Package just arived
#1722 [05:33] * fogWraith rolls it back in and zips his pants up
#1722 [05:33] <fogWraith> Yeah, sorry KillSpammer
#1723 [05:33] <nevercast> lol.
#1724 [05:33] <Kealper> LOL
#1725 [05:33] <KillSpammer> LOL
#1726 [05:33] <KillSpammer> Anyway...
#1727 [05:34] * KillSpammer hides behind AuBot
#1727 [05:35] * Kealper kicks AuBot
#1727 [05:35] <fogWraith> No wonder this slaptop is slow, it has the 256mb of ramlyness
#1728 [05:35] * KillSpammer slaps AuBot
#1728 [05:35] * KillSpammer say hi to AuBot
#1728 [05:35] <nevercast> lol.
#1729 [05:35] * KillSpammer dfghdfgudfhgodfgdfioghdfoghdfhog to AuBot
#1729 [05:35] <nevercast> hmm
#1730 [05:35] <Kealper> lol
#1731 [05:35] <KillSpammer> Lol wut?
#1732 [05:35] * nevercast \n AuBot
#1732 [05:36] <nevercast> hmmm
#1733 [05:36] * KillSpammer if i say this Kealper sucks aubot
#1733 [05:36] * nevercast 0x1A AuBot
#1733 [05:36] * KillSpammer if i say this Kealper sucks to AuBot
#1733 [05:36] <nevercast> COME ON! :P
#1734 [05:36] <KillSpammer> :*(
#1735 [05:36] <Kealper> you can't get it to inject code lol
#1736 [05:36] <Kealper> it's not that dumb :P
#1737 [05:36] <nevercast> YES I CAN!lol.
#1738 [05:36] * KillSpammer casts silence at AuBot
#1738 [05:36] <nevercast> lol.
#1739 [05:37] * KillSpammer cast cout << "OHAI!" to AuBot
#1739 [05:37] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1740 [05:37] <KillSpammer> Failed at code thar?
#1741 [05:37] <Kealper> nub, it's cout << "some text!" << endl;
#1742 [05:37] <KillSpammer> I KNOW!
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#1744 [05:38] <Kealper> but that's only if you have using namespace std; at the top
#1745 [05:38] <Kealper> if you don't...then it's std::cout >.>
#1746 [05:38] <MrHabbits> Do you know a good place to find servers?
#1747 [05:38] <Kealper> MrHabbits: http://mcserverlist.net
#1748 [05:39] <MrHabbits> Do you know if their is any good place to find small servers?
#1749 [05:39] <KillSpammer> #include namespace std;
#1750 [05:39] <KillSpammer> Erm...
#1751 [05:39] <KillSpammer> #Include doesn't have people in it?
#1752 [05:40] <Kealper> using namespace std; !!!
#1753 [05:40] <Kealper> import stdio
#1754 [05:40] <Kealper> am i doin it rite?
#1755 [05:40] <KillSpammer> Idk?
#1756 [05:41] <Kealper> or autoit...
#1757 [05:41] <fogWraith> Noooooo
#1758 [05:41] <KillSpammer> I don't do C++
#1759 [05:41] <Kealper> #include <stdio.au3>
#1760 [05:41] <nevercast> ..
#1761 [05:41] <nevercast> au3
#1762 [05:41] <nevercast> wtf is this shit
#1763 [05:41] <nevercast> Everyone knows it's
#1764 [05:41] <nevercast> namespace MyNameSpace
#1765 [05:41] <Kealper> autoit3 files
#1766 [05:41] <nevercast> and everyone knows
#1767 [05:41] <nevercast> it's 'using System.Text;'
#1768 [05:41] <nevercast> stdio
#1769 [05:41] <nevercast> fuck you all
#1770 [05:42] <Kealper> lol
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#1772 [05:42] <fogWraith> lol
#1773 [05:43] <Kealper> ok i'm seriously going afk now
#1774 [05:44] <KillSpammer> K Kealper
#1775 [05:44] <nevercast> Fuck this code yo
#1776 [05:44] <nevercast> It's Reflection time
#1777 [05:44] <nevercast> It can code its self for all I care
#1778 [05:44] <KillSpammer> BYE Kealper
#1779 [05:44] <nevercast> Night Kealper
#1780 [05:44] <nevercast> :)
#1781 [05:44] <KillSpammer> Someone make minecrafts code support multi threading + server software that supports multithreading
#1782 [05:44] <KillSpammer> NOW!
#1783 [05:47] <fogWraith> No!
#1784 [05:48] <ItsCriminal> hi all
#1785 [05:48] <ItsCriminal> i get sometimes bad errors and my server shut down
#1786 [05:50] <ItsCriminal> i show you soon what i get
#1787 [05:54] <ItsCriminal> www.sapphira.org/error.txt
#1788 [05:54] <fogWraith> Massive chunk errors?
#1789 [05:54] <fogWraith> Running any mods?
#1790 [05:55] <ItsCriminal> i let you know what i runn
#1791 [05:55] <fogWraith> Or wait, I'll not skim and actually look ;P
#1792 [05:55] <ItsCriminal> bukkit. Essentials, HeroricDeath, Permission SpawnControl Canish Elevators, Sortal
#1793 [05:56] <ItsCriminal> but it run now the whole night without problems
#1794 [05:56] <fogWraith> With nether?
#1795 [05:56] <ItsCriminal> without
#1796 [05:56] <fogWraith> Try vanilla, does it do the same?
#1797 [05:56] <ItsCriminal> i dont even know how to get the nether run :D
#1798 [05:56] <ItsCriminal> whait i unplug all
#1799 [05:57] <ItsCriminal> ok just vanilla is running
#1800 [05:57] <ItsCriminal> for the moment no problem
#1801 [05:58] <fogWraith> Disable your plugins one by one, see which one causes the errors
#1802 [05:58] <ItsCriminal> ok i do that then :D
#1803 [05:58] <ItsCriminal> moment
#1804 [06:00] <ItsCriminal> wierd
#1805 [06:00] <ItsCriminal> now i dont get errors
#1806 [06:00] <ItsCriminal> but i will wait
#1807 [06:00] <ItsCriminal> is there any plugin who restarts the server when crash?
#1808 [06:01] <fogWraith> Yeah
#1809 [06:01] <ItsCriminal> i think i need that :D
#1810 [06:01] <fogWraith> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admn-remotetoolkit-restarts-advanced-backup-preview-full-remote-console-access-r10-v5-35a.674/
#1811 [06:02] <ItsCriminal> wow thank you :D
#1812 [06:02] <ItsCriminal> just wanted to ask for it :D
#1813 [06:04] <ItsCriminal> so i downloaded the file, how i understand is that i open the bin folder and put the files like they are there in into my minecraft folder?
#1814 [06:05] <fogWraith> Read the documentation, it's very important
#1815 [06:05] <ItsCriminal> for sure i do :D
#1816 [06:06] <ItsCriminal> i always read, just i want to be sure :D
#1817 [06:06] <fogWraith> Okay
#1818 [06:06] <fogWraith> The docs will tell you where to put what
#1819 [06:06] <ItsCriminal> yeah that all is done allready
#1820 [06:06] <ItsCriminal> :D
#1821 [06:07] <ItsCriminal> and an other question i run the server with 2GB is this enough for 10people?
#1822 [06:07] <fogWraith> Should work
#1823 [06:08] <ItsCriminal> we are never 10at the same time mostly 6
#1824 [06:08] <fogWraith> As long as you don't do anything else but run the operating system and server on that machine, it should be ok
#1825 [06:09] <ItsCriminal> teamspeak is running over that too
#1826 [06:10] <fogWraith> Don't know about the resources that use
#1827 [06:10] <ItsCriminal> i can check :D
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#1829 [06:11] <ItsCriminal> 6GB i have 4GB>Minecraft 200MB>Teamspeak
#1830 [06:12] <fogWraith> Ah
#1831 [06:12] <ItsCriminal> i mean max 4GB minecraft but it is on 2GB for the moment
#1832 [06:13] <nevercast> fogWraith, It seems I've kinda recreated NBTEdit
#1833 [06:13] <nevercast> fogWraith, I'll have to make it better :P
#1834 [06:14] <ItsCriminal> can i put that or is it then crashing?
#1835 [06:14] <ItsCriminal> initial-heap-size=2048M
#1836 [06:14] <ItsCriminal> maximum-heap-size=4096M
#1837 [06:14] * AuBot kicked ItsCriminal from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
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#1839 [06:14] <ItsCriminal> sorry
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#1842 [06:19] <fogWraith> Make it much better, nevercast
#1843 [06:20] <nevercast> fogWraith, I'll get mine up to his.. Although he's spent over a year on his
#1844 [06:20] <nevercast> I
#1845 [06:20] <nevercast> fogWraith, I've spent 2 days
#1846 [06:20] <nevercast> lol.
#1847 [06:20] <Elvang> So if I build an insanely long straight track that reversed direction at the end, and send a mine cart on its way down this track, would Minecraft keep track of the cart the whole time or would I find it stopped at some spot?
#1848 [06:23] <nevercast> Night people :)
#1849 [06:23] * nevercast waves salutations to fogWraith
#1849 [06:25] <ItsCriminal> ok server is running over java -jar Minecraft_RKit.jar with my informations, so now when the server crashes he restarts automaticly?
#1850 [06:26] <fogWraith> There are two files, a new .sh and a .bat - look at those
#1851 [06:26] <BarryCarlyon> Elvang: the cart would keep going till it hit a unloaded chunk
#1852 [06:26] <BarryCarlyon> and then stop
#1853 [06:27] <Elvang> Ah, that was what I was wondering
#1854 [06:27] <BarryCarlyon> I need to adjust my subway engines so they don't cross chunk boundaries.
#1855 [06:27] <Elvang> How big is a chunk? And they are only loaded if I recently visited them right?
#1856 [06:27] <BarryCarlyon> 64x64xmap height (128?)
#1857 [06:27] <Elvang> Hmm
#1858 [06:27] <BarryCarlyon> loaded chunks are the ones you are stood on and the ones as far as you can see
#1859 [06:27] <Elvang> :o
#1860 [06:27] <BarryCarlyon> + everyone else on the server
#1861 [06:28] <Elvang> When you say see, you mean render distance or what I can actually see?
#1862 [06:28] <BarryCarlyon> Well it needs to be loaded in order to see it
#1863 [06:28] <BarryCarlyon> Render distance yes
#1864 [06:28] <Elvang> Ok
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#1866 [06:29] <BarryCarlyon> My subway should never send an empty cart so I avoid the chunk unload problem
#1867 [06:29] * BarryCarlyon wanders off again
#1867 [06:29] <Elvang> I was going to build an automatic subway that pauses at each station and would cycle throughout any areas of interest
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#1869 [06:45] <ItsCriminal> i get sometimes the message Server can'T keep up, is this a big problem ?
#1870 [06:48] <fogWraith> Not really
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#1872 [06:58] <ItsCriminal> ok thank you
#1873 [06:58] <ItsCriminal> i just want to learn all that i know all damn tiny things
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#1875 [07:02] <Joblev> :D
#1876 [07:02] <Joblev> D:
#1877 [07:02] <Joblev> Hi
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#1889 [08:02] <iYoko> Hello!
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#1900 [08:35] <McHums> hayho
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#1903 [08:41] <Elvang> Greetings
#1904 [08:43] <Elvang> So while perusing the mod forum, I noticed a mod for fully flammable trees. Aren't leaves+wood already flammable?
#1905 [08:48] <DopeGhoti> Yes, but sometimes wood blocks, if it from above, don't burn out entirely
#1906 [08:49] <Elvang> Oh
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#1909 [08:54] <mib_dw2bez> i need help:
#1910 [08:54] <mib_dw2bez> The problem is
#1911 [08:54] <mib_dw2bez> Could not create the java virual machine.
#1912 [08:55] <mib_dw2bez> i test all. i make a "bat" file and i deinstall and reinstall java and minecaft beta
#1913 [08:57] <peru> what do you have in bat file
#1914 [08:58] <mib_dw2bez> the part.
#1915 [08:58] <mib_dw2bez> i have minecraft in the desktop
#1916 [09:01] <mib_dw2bez> when i open this bat file it says the same :Could not create the java virual machine.
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#1919 [09:02] <mib_dw2bez> thats getting on my nervs no one knoes an answer
#1920 [09:03] <peru> open bat file in notepad
#1921 [09:03] <peru> and paste content here
#1922 [09:03] <mib_dw2bez> ok
#1923 [09:03] <GLaDOS> im pretty sure its called minecraft.exe
#1924 [09:04] <mib_dw2bez> java -Xms650m -jar"C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\user\Desktop"
#1925 [09:05] <peru> change 650 to 500 and give it a try
#1926 [09:06] <mib_dw2bez> ok thx
#1927 [09:06] <peru> i have this in my bat file
#1928 [09:06] <peru> java -Xmx850M -Xms500M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1929 [09:06] <mib_dw2bez> ok
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#1932 [09:08] <mib_dw2bez> noop
#1933 [09:08] <fogWraith> Try using proper numbers
#1934 [09:08] <mib_dw2bez> same problem
#1935 [09:08] <mib_dw2bez> ????
#1936 [09:08] <fogWraith> Set both on 512 or 768 or 1024
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#1938 [09:08] <mib_dw2bez> what are propernumbers
#1939 [09:08] <mib_dw2bez> ok
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#1941 [09:09] <fogWraith> Are you launching cilent or server? What operating system?
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#1943 [09:09] <mib_dw2bez> ???
#1944 [09:09] <fogWraith> Are you launching cilent or server? What operating system?
#1945 [09:10] <mib_dw2bez> windows xp 32bit
#1946 [09:10] <fogWraith> Why are you not using the provided executable?
#1947 [09:10] <fogWraith> Minecraft.exe
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#1949 [09:10] <peru> i doesnt work for all
#1950 [09:11] <peru> apparently neither for him
#1951 [09:12] <mib_dw2bez> dont work same problem
#1952 [09:13] <fogWraith> java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -jar minecraft.exe
#1953 [09:13] <fogWraith> or .jar if it's the jar
#1954 [09:14] <fogWraith> For shits and giggles
#1955 [09:14] <mib_dw2bez> ok
#1956 [09:16] <mib_dw2bez> same problem
#1957 [09:18] <mib_dw2bez> dont work shit:s
#1958 [09:18] <fogWraith> java -version
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#1960 [09:20] <mib_dw2bez> newest
#1961 [09:20] <mib_dw2bez> update 23
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#1963 [09:20] <mib_6oksbz> excuse me, how can i change my email adress in the minecraft account?
#1964 [09:21] <Elvang> There isn't an automated system to do it, you'll probably have to email someone in charge.
#1965 [09:22] <mib_6oksbz> yeah but i don't find any email adress...
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#1967 [09:23] <mib_dw2bez> please i wont to play minecraft today with my friend
#1968 [09:23] <Elvang> You can try http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang mib_6oksbz
#1969 [09:24] <mib_6oksbz> isn't that for payment?
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#1971 [09:24] <Elvang> payment, bugs, ideas/suggestions, etc
#1972 [09:24] <mib_g4ij4t> ...
#1973 [09:24] <mib_6oksbz> ok thank i gonna try
#1974 [09:25] <Elvang> Atleast, thats what it looks like everyone is using it for.
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#1977 [09:28] <mib_6oksbz> problem nearly solved thanx Elvang
#1978 [09:28] <Elvang> Np
#1979 [09:31] <mib_g4ij4t> ...
#1980 [09:31] <mib_g4ij4t> So can anybody help me?
#1981 [09:32] <mib_g4ij4t> Sry I am under time pressure
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#1984 [09:44] <FierceBunny> hello
#1985 [09:44] <Elvang> Hello
#1986 [09:45] <FierceBunny> if I am using an old savegame (taken from the alpha version) and use it on the beta, will this old world have the new resources like lapis lazuli?
#1987 [09:46] <Elvang> If it did, it'd only be in chunks that haven't been generated yet
#1988 [09:47] <FierceBunny> yea, I was assuming this, as I am branch mining like crazy and I havent found a single bit of lapis
#1989 [09:47] <Elvang> I find them about as often as diamonds :\
#1990 [09:48] <FierceBunny> yes, I noticed it is very rare
#1991 [09:48] <FierceBunny> redstone is everywhere
#1992 [09:48] <FierceBunny> but lapis....
#1993 [09:49] <FierceBunny> not that I planned to do a lot with it by now; I was just being curious
#1994 [09:49] <FierceBunny> thx for your opinion
#1995 [09:49] <FierceBunny> back to mining
#1996 [09:49] <FierceBunny> bb
#1997 [09:49] <Elvang> Np
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#2000 [09:58] <penk> hi folks - i'm having some performance problems on a hosted server. I'm running with memory options 1024 and 1024 memory options, and it's on a dual opteron host w/8 gig. Granted, older CPUs, but I'm still getting 2011-02-08 09:47:46 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#2001 [09:58] <penk> i recently ran an ntpdate sync so my system clock is correct.
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#2003 [09:58] <Elvang> I get those all the time just running a server with no one connected :\
#2004 [09:59] <penk> yah, that seems to be the consensus on the forums - but i'm not sure if it's actually a problem or not.
#2005 [09:59] <ain> Does Lava destroy iron doors?
#2006 [10:02] <Elvang> Considering that doors displace water, I'm assuming it does the same for lava; so no.
#2007 [10:03] <ain> so I can use iron doors to direct lava flow?
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#2009 [10:03] <Elvang> I don't think it'll change the flow, it just removes any liquid in the same square.
#2010 [10:04] <ain> but the lava will still flow through when the door is opened right?
#2011 [10:05] <Elvang> No
#2012 [10:05] <Elvang> Try placing the door in water and watch what happens, same thing.
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#2014 [10:06] <ain> ugh
#2015 [10:06] <ain> so is there any way to 'toggle' a current like that?
#2016 [10:07] <Elvang> Theres a one time use method, or you could try a mod like ControllerBlocks
#2017 [10:07] <ain> hmmm
#2018 [10:07] <ain> is there a reason doors block water/lava?
#2019 [10:07] <Elvang> No idea
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#2022 [10:11] <mensaap> hi
#2023 [10:11] <mensaap> I need help with something
#2024 [10:11] <mensaap> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1071169/minecraft%20bug.png
#2025 [10:12] <mensaap> can anyone explain that?
#2026 [10:12] <Elvang> Lag?
#2027 [10:13] <mensaap> can't play
#2028 [10:13] <mensaap> I start minecraft
#2029 [10:13] <mensaap> and that's what happens
#2030 [10:13] <mensaap> updated java, drivers, etc
#2031 [10:13] <ain> did it work fine before?
#2032 [10:13] <mensaap> on my computer
#2033 [10:13] <mensaap> currently on my laptop
#2034 [10:13] <mensaap> dell XPS
#2035 [10:13] <mensaap> i5
#2036 [10:13] <mensaap> nvidia 420m
#2037 [10:14] <mensaap> it runs bad company 2 just fine
#2038 [10:14] <mensaap> first time that I run the program on my laptop
#2039 [10:14] <xales> How much RAM does the laptop have?
#2040 [10:14] <mensaap> 4
#2041 [10:15] <xales> 4..?
#2042 [10:15] <mensaap> 4 gig's offcourse
#2043 [10:15] <feenyx> 4 RAM
#2044 [10:15] <feenyx> no other designation
#2045 [10:17] <mensaap> 4 gig DDR3
#2046 [10:17] <xales> Open Task Manager while Minecraft is running and look at resource utilization
#2047 [10:17] <xales> see what, if anything, is high
#2048 [10:18] <mensaap> firefox 170 mB, but that shouldn't be it
#2049 [10:18] <mensaap> minecraft is constantly rising
#2050 [10:19] <mensaap> went from 390 tot 450 mB
#2051 [10:19] <mensaap> kB*
#2052 [10:19] <mensaap> fuck mB xD
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#2054 [10:19] <mensaap> 470 mB
#2055 [10:19] <mensaap> atm
#2056 [10:19] <mensaap> keeps rising
#2057 [10:19] <mensaap> it's on pauze (menu)
#2058 [10:20] <ain> mmm
#2059 [10:20] <mensaap> 490
#2060 [10:20] <mensaap> etc
#2061 [10:20] <ain> so regarding doors: they always occupy the same two blocks right?
#2062 [10:21] <Elvang> They only occupy 1 block
#2063 [10:21] <mensaap> 540 mB alrdy
#2064 [10:22] <xales> mensaap: Close every other program when you try to run it
#2065 [10:23] <mensaap> everything except firefox and minecraft itzelf is closed, and it's still rising
#2066 [10:25] <Elvang> A mod with a memory issue?
#2067 [10:25] <mensaap> clean install
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#2069 [10:26] <xales> It's fairly normal for it to use that much RAM
#2070 [10:26] <mensaap> yes but it shouldn't be on the rise
#2071 [10:27] <mensaap> especially not when I'm not moving
#2072 [10:27] <mensaap> and in the menu
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#2074 [10:28] <Elvang> Mine rises 1mb every second for about a minute before dropping ~60mb and repeating the whole thing over again
#2075 [10:28] <xales> Try turning down all of the graphics settings (fast, and smallest view distance)
#2076 [10:28] <xales> and see if that fixes it
#2077 [10:30] <mensaap> it's not on the rise any more no
#2078 [10:30] <mensaap> but still higher then average usage level, and lot's of huge spikes
#2079 [10:30] <mensaap> (roomate has a worse laptop and doesn't have those)
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#2081 [10:31] <mensaap> if I move my fps drops too 14 fps though
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#2083 [10:31] <Elvang> Try optimine/mcregion?
#2084 [10:31] <xales> ^
#2085 [10:32] <mensaap> tried that alrdy but I'll give it another go
#2086 [10:33] <mensaap> optimize didn't help at all
#2087 [10:34] <mensaap> and when I try mcregion, the worlds won't load
#2088 [10:34] <mensaap> minecraft error
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#2090 [10:35] <mensaap> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1071169/minecraft%20bug2.png
#2091 [10:36] <mensaap> that's a screen of when I run it with optimize, fastest and short distance
#2092 [10:36] <xolotl> mensaap: Java will use whatever memory you tell it to use
#2093 [10:37] <Elvang> Still spikes, but its lower on average compared to https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1071169/minecraft%20bug.png
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#2095 [10:37] <xolotl> If you've set -Xmx1024M then it'll eventually use all of it; if you want to tweak that value, go right ahead
#2096 [10:37] <xolotl> (though note that you have to launch via the .jar to change the memory values; the EXE has them hardcoded)
#2097 [10:37] <mensaap> how exactly do I set that value?
#2098 [10:37] <mensaap> I have the jar file, should I create a shortcut or?
#2099 [10:38] <xolotl> I guess; I don't use Windows so I won't be much help there
#2100 [10:38] <xolotl> I kind of doubt that memory is the problem though
#2101 [10:39] <Elvang> mensaap: People launch it with a bat IIRC. Something like java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -jar minecraft.exe
#2102 [10:40] <Oerg866> anyone know how to make minecraft run with 512MB of RAM? it runs horrible on my laptop D:
#2103 [10:41] <xolotl> Oerg866: How much physical RAM does your laptop have?
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#2105 [10:41] <Oerg866> Pentium M 1.76GHZ, 512MB RAM, Intel 82855 (Extreme II) graphics...
#2106 [10:41] <xolotl> Ah
#2107 [10:41] <xolotl> Well, see the advice we just gave Elvang.
#2108 [10:41] <Oerg866> It works, but only if it doesnt have to load new chunks
#2109 [10:41] <Oerg866> ah i'll see about that, thanks
#2110 [10:42] <MrBaff> hello
#2111 [10:42] <MrBaff> i am here bcus of a problem when it comes to connecting
#2112 [10:43] <MrBaff> my friend creates a server and gives me ip and when i try to join i get the following message
#2113 [10:43] <MrBaff> internal exception: java.netSocketException: Connection reset
#2114 [10:43] <MrBaff> but when i create a server he can join to myne with no problems(but we have lag bcus my pc cant handle server and game at the same time)
#2115 [10:43] <MrBaff> any suggestions?
#2116 [10:45] <MrBaff> anyone? pls :(
#2117 [10:45] <Oerg866> <MrBaff> my friend creates a server and gives me ip and when i try to join i get the following message
#2118 [10:45] <Oerg866> ports not forwarded
#2119 [10:45] <Oerg866> or firewall blocks it
#2120 [10:45] <Oerg866> or both heh
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#2122 [10:47] <Oerg866> trying optimine and mcregion now
#2123 [10:50] * xales kicked Oerg866 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: You aren't unbanned. Don't come back D:)
#2124 [10:51] <mensaap> ok
#2125 [10:51] <mensaap> I tried the command thingy
#2126 [10:51] <MrBaff> can someone try to connect on this server pls
#2127 [10:52] <MrBaff> 89.172.9.11:25565
#2128 [10:52] <mensaap> with no succes
#2129 [10:52] <mensaap> it still runs horrible
#2130 [10:52] <MrBaff> please someone just try to connect to it 89.172.9.11:25565
#2131 [10:52] <xales> !check 89.172.9.11
#2132 [10:52] <mensaap> trying
#2133 [10:52] <mensaap> connection timedout
#2134 [10:54] <MrBaff> hmm
#2135 [10:54] <MrBaff> he port forwarded 25565,turned off his antivirus and firewall and still the same :O
#2136 [10:54] <xales> He didn't port forward correctly or has a firewall running
#2137 [10:55] <mensaap> xales got any more hints or tips for me, because this is truly annoying :/
#2138 [10:55] <xales> 64-bit Windows?
#2139 [10:55] <mensaap> yes
#2140 [10:55] <xales> Did you install the 64-bit Java?
#2141 [10:56] <mensaap> yes I did
#2142 [10:57] <xales> Try playing it in the browser - does it do the same thing?
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#2144 [10:57] <gunther> Hello
#2145 [10:57] <xales> Hello
#2146 [10:58] <gunther> I'm MrBaffs friend
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#2148 [10:58] <gunther> So apparently I have done everything right as far as i know
#2149 [10:58] <gunther> however it's still not working
#2150 [10:59] <gunther> Do you think it might be possible to run it from a tunneling thing? Like Hamachi or similar?
#2151 [10:59] <xales> Yeah, you could do that
#2152 [10:59] <mensaap> xales minecraft doesn't work in the browser
#2153 [10:59] <xales> doesn't work, or does the same thing?
#2154 [11:00] <mensaap> xales doesn't work, just a blank screen, java loads, minecraft loads, but no menu, just a blank screen
#2155 [11:00] <gunther> Well i can get on the server with "localhost" as the ip
#2156 [11:00] <gunther> but my friend can't get on the server
#2157 [11:00] <mensaap> xales when I tried it yesterday it did work though, still lagging offcourse
#2158 [11:00] <mensaap> you could try hamachi or tunggle, remember to use those ip's though
#2159 [11:00] <gunther> We'll try hamachi, thanks for your help
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#2166 [11:22] <jamster> I'm setting up a minecraft server and was wondering if having the server reset every few hours was beneficial? or should i just leave it running until i have to restart the computer?
#2167 [11:22] <xolotl> jamster: There's no reason to reset it, generally.
#2168 [11:23] <jamster> alright thanks
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#2171 [11:29] <aetherian> hello
#2172 [11:29] <Elvang> Hello
#2173 [11:31] <pifon> Hi! How to clone materials on MC multi server. I'm admin.
#2174 [11:32] <Elvang> /give?
#2175 [11:32] <pifon> i need some plugins?
#2176 [11:32] <xales> no
#2177 [11:32] <xales> just /give
#2178 [11:32] <pifon> becouse i need many iron
#2179 [11:33] <pifon> so waht should i do?
#2180 [11:33] <xales> use /give
#2181 [11:33] <pifon> Thank You
#2182 [11:33] <pifon> !
#2183 [11:33] <Elvang> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_commands and http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values if you need more info on it.
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#2186 [11:46] <DopeGhoti> Phoenix annoys me.
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#2188 [11:51] <DopeGhoti> TIL that the city can change your hearing date without notice.
#2189 [11:52] <aetherian> o.o
#2190 [11:53] <aetherian> bye, kaito. have many fun adventures elsewhere.
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#2198 [12:27] <xales> !server
#2199 [12:28] <Roenie2> is flow control the nic setting to stop mc from killing my interface?
#2200 [12:28] <xales> possibly
#2201 [12:28] <xales> also send/recieve buffer
#2202 [12:28] <Roenie2> they are maxed as per default
#2203 [12:29] <xales> what are they at?
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#2206 [12:34] <DopeGhoti> Skyrider's here! What're our plans for the bird?
#2207 [12:41] <xales> Dope, how goes SkyNet's FAQ section?
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#2209 [12:43] <Crafter> guys... sorry to interrupt, but just a quick question: what is the latest version of minecraft
#2210 [12:43] <Elvang> 1.2_02
#2211 [12:43] <Roenie2> <xales> what are they at?
#2212 [12:43] <Crafter> thx ^-^
#2213 [12:44] <Roenie2> Rx 512
#2214 [12:44] <Roenie2> Tx 128
#2215 [12:45] <Crafter> does the Beta 1.2_02 have a minimap?
#2216 [12:45] <xales> Not without mods
#2217 [12:45] <xales> Roenie2: the Tx is a bit low...
#2218 [12:46] <Crafter> : / ok, cuz I have the alpha 1.2.6 and I don't know if I should update or not
#2219 [12:47] <xales> uh...it updates automatically
#2220 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> also, alpha also doesn't have a minimap
#2221 [12:47] <Roenie2> xales, realtek gbit onboard
#2222 [12:47] <Crafter> I have a mod ^-^
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#2224 [12:48] <xales> just open Minecraft normally and let it autoupdate like everyone else
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#2227 [12:48] <feenyx> Crafter: when using the client, the version you're running will be shown in the top left corner of the main menu
#2228 [12:48] <feenyx> same with in-browser, really
#2229 [12:48] <Crafter> : / will it stay in alpha, or will it go into the beta version
#2230 [12:49] <xales> It updates to Beta automatically when you launch it
#2231 [12:49] <xales> unless you are playing a pirated copy
#2232 [12:49] <Crafter> ^-^ thx...
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#2235 [12:55] <SFX_Acidic> I have a question if anyone is near
#2236 [12:57] <feenyx> and if we're far?
#2237 [12:57] * mbentley is far :(
#2237 [12:57] <SFX_Acidic> lol
#2238 [12:57] <SFX_Acidic> Nice one!
#2239 [12:57] <SFX_Acidic> Well I have a MC account but my friend doesn't.
#2240 [12:57] <SFX_Acidic> His computer is pretty bad ass and could host a MP server
#2241 [12:57] <SFX_Acidic> Can his computer host a server even if he doesn't have an account?
#2242 [12:57] <feenyx> yes
#2243 [12:58] <feenyx> accounts are only needed to play MP
#2244 [12:58] <feenyx> not to host
#2245 [12:58] <SFX_Acidic> So simply give him the files needed, create world, turn on server
#2246 [12:58] <SFX_Acidic> BINGO!
#2247 [12:58] <mbentley> pretty much
#2248 [12:58] <Roenie2> what was the intel counterpart of the nforce4 for AMD (athlon64 X2)?
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#2250 [12:58] <Roenie2> (was there one?)
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#2255 [13:06] <minecrafteer> Hey, minecrafthelp, I was wondering something about portals
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#2257 [13:06] <minecrafteer> If I build a portal into a wall so I can't walk through it, is it still usable?
#2258 [13:07] <minecrafteer> Actually, nevermine
#2259 [13:07] <minecrafteer> Get it?
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#2262 [13:08] <feenyx> Roenie2: what exactly are you trying to find out? :)
#2263 [13:08] <feenyx> was it just the question itself, or was it related to something?
#2264 [13:11] <Roenie2> related to killing myself perhaps, see what happens
#2265 [13:11] <Roenie2> well
#2266 [13:12] <Roenie2> coming from linux native software raid 5, 2.1TB array, i had to upgrade the OS
#2267 [13:12] <Roenie2> the automatic linux upgrade using apt failed so I had to revert to a backup i made b4
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#2269 [13:12] <Roenie2> decided to go back to windows, so i backed up the data
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#2271 [13:13] <Roenie2> killed the array, went into the machine's (my file server) raid bios, it has an nforce 4 mobo
#2272 [13:14] <feenyx> but it's not recognized by windows?
#2273 [13:14] <Roenie2> added 3 drives in raid 0, to form a 2.1TB array on the nforce sata raid controller
#2274 [13:14] <Roenie2> which then displayed the total array size as 47GB
#2275 [13:14] <Roenie2> so i figured something must be off with the drives not being clean/linux partitions/raid superblock
#2276 [13:15] <Roenie2> so i launched my debian live cd, which turned out to not have mdadm (so i could do mdadm --zer-superblock)
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#2278 [13:15] <Roenie2> and no apt repository, it was too old, same as my linux install was
#2279 [13:15] <feenyx> that's a bit shit
#2280 [13:15] <Roenie2> so, i downlaoded a knoppix live cd, and tried again
#2281 [13:15] <fogWraith> Woooh, recompiling the kernel ftw
#2282 [13:16] <Roenie2> failed, because it saw the nvraid array and so mdadm refused to write to the individual drives
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#2285 [13:16] <Roenie2> i managed to get that array down and zero the superblocks, no change in the raid bios though
#2286 [13:16] <feenyx> I'd say axe the array, make sure all the disks are working individually, then attempt a rebuild
#2287 [13:17] <feenyx> ah
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#2289 [13:17] <Roenie2> googling told me that the nforce 4 chipset has a 2TB raid limit
#2290 [13:17] * Roenie2 jumps off nearest cliff
#2290 [13:17] <Roenie2> it's 2.1 goddammit
#2291 [13:17] <Roenie2> 2.1
#2292 [13:17] <Roenie2> at least let me leave out the .1
#2293 [13:17] <Roenie2> lol
#2294 [13:17] <feenyx> lol
#2295 [13:18] <feenyx> or, you know, just go out and buy two 2tb drives and run a mirror
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#2297 [13:18] <feenyx> they don't exactly cost a fortune anymore
#2298 [13:18] <Roenie2> i need raid 0 for the speed >:-)
#2299 [13:19] <Roenie2> but i have six 750GB drives here
#2300 [13:19] <Roenie2> so i was thinking, two raid 0 arrays of three each (2.1TB) on both of my machines
#2301 [13:19] <Roenie2> i ran a raid 5 of 4 drives, also 2.1TB so size wise that would be the same
#2302 [13:19] <Roenie2> but then i can max my gigabit lan
#2303 [13:19] <feenyx> yeah, but software raid
#2304 [13:20] <feenyx> so obviously different limitations apply
#2305 [13:20] <Roenie2> yes... i know that now
#2306 [13:20] <Roenie2> lol
#2307 [13:20] <feenyx> ahaha
#2308 [13:20] <feenyx> well
#2309 [13:20] <DopeGhoti> RAID 10 in hardware's not bad if you don't mind losing half if your capacity to mirroring.
#2310 [13:20] <feenyx> http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=18158
#2311 [13:20] <feenyx> Roenie2: that one's for you
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#2313 [13:21] <Roenie2> yep feenyx found that one
#2314 [13:21] <Roenie2> key line: " The 2TB limit is an nForce Limit."
#2315 [13:21] <feenyx> I found the similarities amusing
#2316 [13:21] <Teth0ruX> What shoudl I backup to save the map and the buildings?
#2317 [13:21] <feenyx> TehZomB: the world folder
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#2319 [13:22] <Teth0ruX> feenyx Okay, and when will the server save the map?
#2320 [13:22] <Roenie2> so..... i have to take the promise fakeraid card approach again eh
#2321 [13:22] <feenyx> Roenie2: or another software raid :p
#2322 [13:23] <Roenie2> i'm not installing linux again tho
#2323 [13:23] <Roenie2> so, no
#2324 [13:24] <feenyx> Teth0ruX: it's saved quite often. But that doesn't really help if the world folder gets corrupted. I'd recommend an xcopy batch job every three hours or so
#2325 [13:24] <Roenie2> after 500 hours of trying to get things to work, i'm over linux
#2326 [13:24] <feenyx> depends how many people you have playing, and if you're using whitelists
#2327 [13:24] <Teth0ruX> feenyx I dont know.. i will start a server.. I think with whitelist...
#2328 [13:25] <feenyx> in that case, an xcopy batch job every 6-12 hours will probably do. Less risk of griefing with a whitelist in place :)
#2329 [13:26] <Teth0ruX> Hm is a whitelist server not soo good?
#2330 [13:26] <feenyx> it is
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#2332 [13:26] <feenyx> well, I think it is
#2333 [13:26] <aetherian> depends
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#2335 [13:26] <feenyx> nobody gets to play on my smp without me adding them to the list
#2336 [13:26] <Teth0ruX> how much player do you have?
#2337 [13:26] <feenyx> so I can sleep well at night knowing that everything will still be there in the morning :p
#2338 [13:27] <feenyx> there's probably about 8 people on that whitelist, but rarely more than 2-3 on at the same time
#2339 [13:27] <Teth0ruX> okay.. but when i add someone to the whitelist, the user can join whenever he wants
#2340 [13:27] <feenyx> yes
#2341 [13:27] <Teth0ruX> nice
#2342 [13:28] <Teth0ruX> DO you user specia mods?
#2343 [13:28] <Teth0ruX> special
#2344 [13:28] <feenyx> nope, just some very generic admin tools
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#2346 [13:28] <feenyx> that way, they don't get broken every time the game updates
#2347 [13:31] <Teth0ruX> okay
#2348 [13:31] <Teth0ruX> which tools? :D
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#2351 [13:36] <_BUG_> d-_-b ... Silent
#2352 [13:36] <Dum_dum> How did you make the inverted b
#2353 [13:36] <Dum_dum> o wait
#2354 [13:36] <Roenie2> Eep.
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#2356 [13:36] * Roenie2 swats _BUG_
#2356 [13:36] <_BUG_> lol!!
#2357 [13:37] * _BUG_ g2g
#2357 [13:40] <aetherian> good
#2358 [13:40] <aetherian> bye
#2359 [13:40] <aetherian> now
#2360 [13:40] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
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#2362 [13:41] * xolotl applauds AuBot
#2362 [13:41] <xolotl> !
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#2364 [13:42] * Roenie2 licks AuBot
#2364 [13:42] <Roenie2> that's just wrong
#2365 [13:42] <xolotl> Hey, you started it
#2366 [13:42] <xolotl> :)
#2367 [13:43] <Roenie2> let's see how smart it is
#2368 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> I just realized that working with CVS makes for the creation of new smilies
#2369 [13:43] * Roenie2 wees on AuBot
#2369 [13:43] <Roenie2> fail
#2370 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> common command line in my work CVS terminal: `^n^`
#2371 [13:45] <Roenie2> man so many fakeraid cards
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#2373 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> eh?
#2374 [13:49] <Roenie2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
#2375 [13:49] <Roenie2> see Firmware/driver-based RAID
#2376 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> ah.
#2377 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: raid, Raid, RAID
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#2380 [13:54] <fenster> !check 79.242.121.115
#2381 [13:54] <newtonseple> !check?
#2382 [13:54] <newtonseple> oh
#2383 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> Accidentally invoking bot commands. Like a boss?
#2384 [13:55] <fenster> !check 79.242.111.93
#2385 [13:55] <fenster> o.O
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#2387 [13:56] <fenster> !check dessos.dan.dns.org
#2388 [13:56] <fenster> dyn o.O
#2389 [13:56] <newtonseple> !check 193.37.152.48
#2390 [13:56] <fenster> !check dessos.dyn.dns.org
#2391 [13:56] <fenster> i dont like you newtonseple
#2392 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> ttants: dyn.dns, dyndns
#2393 [13:57] <feenyx> !check mancyclopedia.org
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#2395 [14:00] <Elvang> !check?
#2396 [14:00] <Elvang> !check 70.190.173.60
#2397 [14:01] <xales> !myip
#2398 [14:01] <xales> !check 69.164.213.202:80
#2399 [14:01] <xales> :)
#2400 [14:01] <Elvang> No !check myip command?
#2401 [14:01] <xales> !check
#2402 [14:01] <Elvang> Ah
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#2404 [14:02] <Elvang> Geh, I setup a rail system to my base from spawn, only to die with the cart at the base
#2405 [14:03] <Elvang> Long walk back :(
#2406 [14:03] <xales> lol
#2407 [14:03] <feenyx> always keep boats/carts at both ends of a travel route :p
#2408 [14:04] * aetherian hugs aubot
#2408 [14:04] <aetherian> \<3
#2409 [14:04] <xales> in the case of boats, keep several
#2410 [14:04] <aetherian> *<3
#2411 [14:04] <xales> :)
#2412 [14:04] <feenyx> I have a double chest with a sign that says "Boat Rentals!" everywhere
#2413 [14:04] <Elvang> Yea, learned my lesson. Sticking a chest with extra supplies at the end of my rails now
#2414 [14:04] <larkhorn> baaah, buuugs
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#2416 [14:05] <Elvang> How do you guys get your carts started? I've been using ControllerBlocks to start it with boosters...
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#2420 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: no mods; just boosters with a stone plate to queue the launcher
#2421 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> also, protip: make your boostercarts storage carts, and put spare carts in the storage
#2422 [14:09] <Elvang> Why storage carts? Also, do you have to reload your launcher?
#2423 [14:09] <fofogogo23> Hey guys, could anybody help me, when people connect to my MC server I see this in the console http://pastebin.com/Di8qnUUv
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#2425 [14:11] <fofogogo23> Nobody? http://pastebin.com/Di8qnUUv
#2426 [14:11] <xales> fofogogo23: What IP are they using to connect?
#2427 [14:11] <fofogogo23> The usual IP which is
#2428 [14:11] <fofogogo23> One sec
#2429 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: my boosters are all self-resetting. And why storage carts? a> to store carts. b> to prevent people from getting into them.
#2430 [14:12] <fofogogo23> 178.79.142.117:25565
#2431 [14:12] <Elvang> Ah, smart.
#2432 [14:13] <xales> fofogogo23: Has it always done that?
#2433 [14:13] <fofogogo23> No never
#2434 [14:13] <fofogogo23> First time
#2435 [14:13] <xales> Where do you see that error?
#2436 [14:13] <fofogogo23> In my console
#2437 [14:14] <fofogogo23> Btw rofl, Im using Bukkit, but the bukkit people told me to go here :D
#2438 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> fofogogo23: HTTP timeout exceptions point to issues with Minecraft going down
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#2440 [14:14] <fofogogo23> Ohhh so is it minecrafts problem?
#2441 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> and kindly tell the "Bukkit people" that we don't support mods or modded servers and the first troubleshooting step would be "remove your mods"
#2442 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> !isdown www.minecraft.net
#2443 [14:14] <GreyBot> DopeGhoti: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2444 [14:14] <Twipply> Need some port forwarding help.
#2445 [14:15] <Twipply> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DSL-G604T/Minecraft_Server.htm
#2446 [14:15] <fofogogo23> Ok, sorry :)
#2447 [14:15] <Twipply> I followed that exactly and it's definitely the right router
#2448 [14:15] <Twipply> but apparently the port is still closed
#2449 [14:15] <Twipply> Advice?
#2450 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> fofogogo23: no worries, but please pass the word (:
#2451 [14:15] <fofogogo23> Thanks guys, bye :D
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#2453 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#2454 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> Twipply: Does the router claim that the port is forwarded?
#2455 [14:16] <Twipply> I wouldn't know where to find a list of open/closed ports
#2456 [14:16] <Twipply> I just did what they told me to
#2457 [14:16] <Twipply> and apparently it didn't work according to some website that scanned me
#2458 [14:16] <xales> Those websites are garbage
#2459 [14:16] <xales> usually
#2460 [14:16] <xales> you have to make sure that the server was actually running when you did that
#2461 [14:16] <xales> (scanned it)
#2462 [14:16] <Twipply> Oh really.
#2463 [14:16] <xales> and that any firewall you might have is completely disabled
#2464 [14:17] <Twipply> I have no installed Firewall of my own, but I was wondering if MS Security Essentials was screwing around
#2465 [14:17] <xales> It is possible, but I doubt it
#2466 [14:17] <Twipply> Though I can't see anything firewall related in it
#2467 [14:17] <xales> try running the server, and use AuBot to check it
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#2469 [14:17] <xales> !check (ip)
#2470 [14:18] <Elvang> !ping
#2471 [14:18] <GreyBot> Elvang Your Ping time was 0.431 Seconds.
#2472 [14:18] <Twipply> o_O
#2473 [14:18] <Twipply> I can just put my ip in !check (ip) and it'll tell me if the port is open?
#2474 [14:18] <Elvang> Yea
#2475 [14:18] <Twipply> Isn't that fancy.
#2476 [14:18] <xales> Twipply: It won't tell you if the port is open, but it will tell you if the server can be reached
#2477 [14:18] <xales> you have to have the server running
#2478 [14:18] <Twipply> Well yes
#2479 [14:18] <Twipply> hard to reacht he server if it isn't running
#2480 [14:18] <Twipply> reach the*
#2481 [14:18] <xales> yep
#2482 [14:19] <Elvang> !check
#2483 [14:19] <Twipply> !check
#2484 [14:19] <Twipply> Fine what
#2485 [14:19] <Twipply> >_>
#2486 [14:19] <xales> it works, then
#2487 [14:19] <Twipply> I don't know what it just checked, haha.
#2488 [14:19] <xales> try !myip
#2489 [14:19] <Twipply> !myip
#2490 [14:19] <xales> ^it checked that
#2491 [14:19] <xales> and it works
#2492 [14:20] <Twipply> Oh.
#2493 [14:20] <Twipply> So if the sever is reachable
#2494 [14:20] <Twipply> the port is open?
#2495 [14:20] <xales> yes
#2496 [14:21] <Twipply> Is my problem something stupid like I can't connect to the IP running my server?
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#2498 [14:21] <Twipply> 'cause I can't connect to my ip
#2499 [14:21] <xales> it might not work for you, just use '127.0.0.1'
#2500 [14:22] <Twipply> It works via localhost
#2501 [14:22] <Twipply> Already tried that
#2502 [14:22] <xales> but other people can use the IP above
#2503 [14:22] <Twipply> I guess I need someone else to try the IP then
#2504 [14:22] <Flamester> I get a "Cant find accelerated openGL" how do i fix it?
#2505 [14:22] <feenyx> Flamester: by updating your graphics card drivers
#2506 [14:23] * xales goes to class now D:
#2506 [14:23] <Elvang> Twipply: Disconnected by server: Too long to login.
#2507 [14:23] <Twipply> Yeah
#2508 [14:23] <Twipply> The server told me
#2509 [14:23] <Twipply> I wonder why that is.
#2510 [14:24] <Elvang> Eh, Internal client error: java.net.Connect.Exception: Connection timed out: connect, this time
#2511 [14:24] <Flamester> stupid old parents computer
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#2514 [14:29] <Twipply> Willing to try again, Elvang?
#2515 [14:29] <Elvang> Yup
#2516 [14:29] <Twipply> I tried to add the MC server to an allowed list in the horrors of windows firewall
#2517 [14:29] <Twipply> Not that it's likely to work or anything silly like that
#2518 [14:30] <Elvang> Timed out :\
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#2520 [14:30] <Elvang> !check 88.110.213.173
#2521 [14:30] <Twipply> Oh happy day.
#2522 [14:30] <Twipply> !check
#2523 [14:30] <Twipply> Interesting.
#2524 [14:30] <Twipply> So the bot told me it was fine
#2525 [14:30] <Twipply> and now told us it isn't
#2526 [14:31] <Elvang> No errors in console?
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#2528 [14:31] <Teth0ruX> Know someone a hoster , which would sponsor a german community?
#2529 [14:31] <Twipply> It didn't mention you at all.
#2530 [14:31] <Elvang> Undo whatever you did to windows firewall :P
#2531 [14:31] <Elvang> You hath angered it
#2532 [14:32] <Twipply> I added Minecraft_Server to the 'Allowed programs and features' list in Windows Firewall
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#2534 [14:33] <Twipply> I undid my clearly stupid idea.
#2535 [14:33] <Twipply> What was I thinking
#2536 [14:33] <xales> Twipply: Just shut it offf
#2537 [14:33] <Elvang> Now you're thinking with Windows
#2538 [14:33] <xales> windows firewall = bad, useless
#2539 [14:33] <Twipply> I'm sure it's not actually useless
#2540 [14:33] <Twipply> but we can try with it off
#2541 [14:34] <Twipply> Like now
#2542 [14:34] <rockstartyler> is this the correct spot to ask support based questions?
#2543 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> rockstartyler: for certain things, tes.
#2544 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> er, yes.
#2545 [14:34] <xales> Twipply: Actually, if you had to port forward (you are behind a router), Windows Firewall actually does nothing.
#2546 [14:34] <xales> nothing useful
#2547 [14:34] <Blackskyliner> windows firewall sometimes is - read some tests - better than other extra programs :)
#2548 [14:34] <rockstartyler> how about server connections, i dont want to be the noob thats postign in the worng spot
#2549 [14:35] <xales> rockstartyler: Nope, this is the correct place for that
#2550 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> rockstartyler: still sounds like you're within our balliwick
#2551 [14:36] <rockstartyler> ok well i know for sure that i have the port on my server forwarded, i have a static ip dmz'd and canyouseeme.org says my port is open, but nobody can connect to my server
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#2554 [14:37] <rockstartyler> i have had my server working in the past, but no dice lately
#2555 [14:37] <Bjerre> hello guys
#2556 [14:38] <Twipply> Microsoft: Let's spend time, money, and effort on Windows Firewall that doesnt' do anything
#2557 [14:39] <Twipply> Microsoft: Let's update it for 10 years while it still doesn't do anything
#2558 [14:39] <Bjerre> I have a question. I need a classic serverapplication. I have tried many and most of them seems to not working properly when joining. I get java error etc. Is there any good serverapps right now?
#2559 [14:39] <Twipply> That = throw logic in the bin
#2560 [14:39] <rockstartyler> twipply by a MAC :D
#2561 [14:39] <Blackskyliner> Mhm... Microsoft... developer developers developers?
#2562 [14:39] <Twipply> I'd rather buy something that 'just worked'.
#2563 [14:39] <ItsCriminal> hey, what is this i get it often -> www.sapphira.org/error.txt
#2564 [14:39] <Twipply> It wasn't a gripe at MS either
#2565 [14:39] <Twipply> It was me saying that Windows Firewall being useless makes no sense.
#2566 [14:40] <rockstartyler> yeah, windows firewall is one on the most useless thing i have seen
#2567 [14:40] <Bjerre> is anyone of you hosting a classic minecraftserver? if so, let me know what application you use
#2568 [14:40] <rockstartyler> anyone willing to test the connection of my server???
#2569 [14:40] <Blackskyliner> well in fact you - in most cases - have an HW firewall - like your router - so why bother with SW firewalls at all? :)
#2570 [14:40] <Elvang> Do !check rockstartyler
#2571 [14:41] <rockstartyler> ???
#2572 [14:41] <Blackskyliner> just type it: !check rockstartyler
#2573 [14:41] <rockstartyler> yeah, both of my routers have firewalls, and most modems do. why do you really need software?
#2574 [14:41] <Elvang> Just the !check bit
#2575 [14:41] <Bjerre> I need a freakin serverapplication. I know how to set it up but all seem to be outdated.
#2576 [14:43] <rockstartyler> im trying to see if anyone can connect to my server, i have had trouble the past few days
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#2578 [14:43] <Blackskyliner> Classic Servers are not that outdated at all look at the minecraftwiki there are listet many of them, especially for classic, another thing is Beta...
#2579 [14:43] <Clapper> Hey I'm a newbie modder
#2580 [14:44] <Clapper> Can someone tell me how to add models?
#2581 [14:44] <rockstartyler> why classic?
#2582 [14:44] <Blackskyliner> Well, thats his descision rockstartyler
#2583 [14:44] <Bjerre> well I want a classic server for the beta software
#2584 [14:44] <Bjerre> is it possible?
#2585 [14:44] <Bjerre> I dont want zombies etc
#2586 [14:44] <xales> Clapper: This isn't a modding help channel, sorry. try #risucraft
#2587 [14:44] <xales> Bjerre: It is not
#2588 [14:44] <Bjerre> I just want to build in a freeroaming world
#2589 [14:44] <xales> Look at Bukkit
#2590 [14:44] <ItsCriminal> switch of the zombies
#2591 [14:44] <xales> turn off mob spawns
#2592 [14:44] <Clapper> oh sorry i thought this was for general minecraft help
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#2594 [14:45] <Bjerre> well I need !sethome etc
#2595 [14:45] <Bjerre> as well
#2596 [14:45] <rockstartyler> turn mosters ro equal false,
#2597 [14:45] <Blackskyliner> Yea then bukkit is a good thing for you Bjerre
#2598 [14:45] <rockstartyler> to
#2599 [14:45] <xales> Bjerre: Look at Bukkit then
#2600 [14:45] <ItsCriminal> #bukkit
#2601 [14:45] <rockstartyler> you will have friendly mobs, but no creepers, zombues ect
#2602 [14:45] <Bjerre> ok never heard of
#2603 [14:45] <Bjerre> gonna google
#2604 [14:45] <rockstartyler> its amazing better than hm0d
#2605 [14:45] <rockstartyler> bukkit.org
#2606 [14:46] <Blackskyliner> And its a mod based on the original server of minecraft, or am I wrong?
#2607 [14:46] <xales> It is based on the official Beta server
#2608 [14:46] <rockstartyler> i would consider it a wrapper
#2609 [14:46] <xales> it isn't a wrapper, it directly modifies the code
#2610 [14:46] <rockstartyler> my mistake
#2611 [14:47] <Blackskyliner> A wrapper would "wrap" the console of mincraft to modyfy things via parsing, etc.
#2612 [14:47] <rockstartyler> ok, i get it.
#2613 [14:47] <Blackskyliner> Therefore no additional content would be possible
#2614 [14:47] <Bjerre> I cant find any dl link
#2615 [14:47] <Blackskyliner> ;)
#2616 [14:47] <Bjerre> only bukkit.org
#2617 [14:47] <Bjerre> which has no download
#2618 [14:47] <rockstartyler> yeha, you have to hunt for it
#2619 [14:48] <rockstartyler> and it updates alot, since its still being developed so you have to update it regularly
#2620 [14:48] <xales> Bjerre: ask in #bukkit
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#2622 [14:49] <rockstartyler> question, i know for sure that i have the port on my server forwarded, i have a static ip dmz'd and canyouseeme.org says my port is open, but nobody can connect to my server? any advice???
#2623 [14:49] <xales> what happens when they try?
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#2625 [14:49] <Blackskyliner> nah canyouseeme checks for port 80 not 655whatever
#2626 [14:49] <rockstartyler> varries, some says timeout, others say cant connect
#2627 [14:50] <rockstartyler> i had it check my specific 50500 port
#2628 [14:50] <rockstartyler> and the default 25565 port
#2629 [14:50] <xales> do you see anything when there is a connection attempt in the server console?
#2630 [14:50] <rockstartyler> both where clear
#2631 [14:50] <rockstartyler> no
#2632 [14:50] <Blackskyliner> ok, okay didnt know that nowaday you can also check specific ports with this service...
#2633 [14:51] <Blackskyliner> is you routing for the port also forwarding to your machine running the server, also mapping to the right port?
#2634 [14:51] <rockstartyler> but when i used canyouseeme i had their ip pop up on my terminal
#2635 [14:51] <rockstartyler> on my mac, firewall is off and router is open
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#2638 [14:52] <rockstartyler> i get nat 2 on ps3 so i knwo ports are open
#2639 [14:52] <xales> you aren't behind two routers, are you?
#2640 [14:52] <pichu> hi
#2641 [14:52] <rockstartyler> sorta
#2642 [14:52] <Blackskyliner> mhm.. when you say specific port, do you mean you have the server on an non-default port running? so your users should also add this port to their connection string, can you connect yourself to your server via your static ip?
#2643 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> erm, Blackskyliner, you can check any port you want with canyouseeme
#2644 [14:52] <pichu> do you guys know if it is possible to buy minecraft with a visa gift card?
#2645 [14:52] <rockstartyler> on my server im using 50500 instead of 25565
#2646 [14:52] <xales> it isn't
#2647 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> pichu: generally not with prepaid cards.
#2648 [14:52] <rockstartyler> but i changed that in the properties text
#2649 [14:52] <pichu> like what if i transfer the funds to paypal
#2650 [14:52] <xales> prepaid cards don't work with international transactions
#2651 [14:52] <Blackskyliner> DopeGhoti, yea it was new for me, cuz I always just usedit for checking port 80 xD
#2652 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> pichu: well, once the funds are in PayPal, you're all set, sure
#2653 [14:53] <xales> pichu: can't do that from a credit card, only a bank account, though
#2654 [14:53] <Blackskyliner> yea and you ppl's should also connect to this port: ipaddress:portnumber
#2655 [14:53] <rockstartyler> xales, why would two routers make a difference?
#2656 [14:53] <xales> rockstartyler: did they put the correct port in when they tried to connect? (ip:port)
#2657 [14:53] <xales> rockstartyler: if you are behind 2 routers, you need to port forward twice
#2658 [14:53] <rockstartyler> yeah anyone want to try my server?
#2659 [14:53] <pichu> i have a bank account set to pay pal, but when i try to buy minecraft it says its only allowed to accept instant payments :(
#2660 [14:54] <xales> pichu: transfer the money from the account first
#2661 [14:54] <xales> don't just immediately buy
#2662 [14:54] <Blackskyliner> I cant atm, cuz im @Linux with my bitchy ATI card... so MC wont start :(
#2663 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> pichu: so transfer the money fi.. ninjas. Damn you, ninjas.
#2664 [14:54] <rockstartyler> my first router is dmz'd to my second and my laptop is dmz'd to my second router
#2665 [14:54] <pichu> how do i do that?
#2666 [14:54] <xales> pichu: there would be a menu option
#2667 [14:54] <xales> on the paypal site
#2668 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> pichu: erm, log into PayPal
#2669 [14:54] <rockstartyler> its as open as it can be
#2670 [14:54] <xales> look for it
#2671 [14:54] <pichu> okay thanks :)
#2672 [14:54] <Blackskyliner> btw. why do an DMZ for just opening 1 port?
#2673 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> Click Add Funds
#2674 [14:54] <xales> ^
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#2676 [14:54] <rockstartyler> i use dmz for my ps3 also
#2677 [14:55] <Blackskyliner> a simple forwarding would have done it also, and much more secure xD
#2678 [14:55] <rockstartyler> #blackops
#2679 [14:55] <xales> you can't DMZ more than one thing
#2680 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> ^this.
#2681 [14:55] <Blackskyliner> if you have 2 routers you can
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#2683 [14:55] <rockstartyler> ik i change it for my server or ps3, i never do them both at once
#2684 [14:55] <pichu> how much does minecraft cost in dollars?
#2685 [14:55] <rockstartyler> 15$
#2686 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> it's EU14.95..
#2687 [14:55] <rockstartyler> +/- exchange rate
#2688 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> I'd say US$21 should cover it
#2689 [14:56] <pichu> okay thanks dope
#2690 [14:56] <pichu> thanks guys :), i guess i just have to wait 3-5 days now
#2691 [14:57] <rockstartyler> i tried single port forwarding, to clearify the issue, but i never could get to port open, but with a dmz it works.... idk
#2692 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> clearly then you were not forwarding the port correctly.
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#2694 [14:57] <Blackskyliner> hillarious :)
#2695 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> All a DMZ effectively is, is forwarding all notspecified ports
#2696 [14:57] <rockstartyler> using no dmz, and a single prt forward, it would not open, with dmz its open
#2697 [14:58] <Striky> hey guys. got 1 problem: iw anna run a local server. all works fine.s erver starts etc.
#2698 [14:58] <ItsCriminal> my server shutdown without any information
#2699 [14:58] <rockstartyler> yeah ik what dmz is, i only use it on my ps3 so im not real worried about being hacked
#2700 [14:58] <ItsCriminal> its like hes frezzed :(
#2701 [14:58] <Striky> but if i join the server i get "logging in"
#2702 [14:58] <Blackskyliner> ItsCriminal, no log entry, or while running in console no jre error?
#2703 [14:58] <Striky> and then i get an error
#2704 [14:59] <ItsCriminal> nothing no
#2705 [14:59] <Blackskyliner> Striky: what error
#2706 [14:59] <xales> Striky: What is your username?
#2707 [14:59] <Striky> the server says: logged in with id blabla
#2708 [14:59] <Striky> tghen: disconnect.generic reason
#2709 [14:59] <ItsCriminal> just frezze and an unlimited login in message :D
#2710 [14:59] <ItsCriminal> its wierd never was like that
#2711 [14:59] <Blackskyliner> ItsCriminal: original server, which mod, or an alternate server?
#2712 [14:59] <Striky> the error message in client ist: java.net.socketexpection: connection reset
#2713 [14:59] <xales> Striky: What username do you log in with?
#2714 [15:00] <ItsCriminal> i show you what i get
#2715 [15:00] <Striky> wanna play offline
#2716 [15:00] <Striky> also if i join "localhost"
#2717 [15:00] <Striky> i can enter the server
#2718 [15:00] <Striky> but the world won´t save
#2719 [15:00] <Blackskyliner> Striky: then the server dont lets you connect till you have authed yourself with the minecraft server
#2720 [15:00] <rockstartyler> for local just enter your computers ip and the port
#2721 [15:00] <xales> Striky: If you want to play offline, why are you running a server?
#2722 [15:00] <ItsCriminal> www.sapphira.org/error.txt
#2723 [15:00] <Striky> i switched server setting to offlien/insecure mode
#2724 [15:00] <ItsCriminal> and i runn bukkit 278
#2725 [15:01] <xales> Striky: Why?
#2726 [15:01] <Striky> i wanna play on lan with my romemate
#2727 [15:01] <xales> Do you both own the game?
#2728 [15:01] <ItsCriminal> me yes
#2729 [15:01] <xales> not you, ItsCriminal, Striky and his roommate
#2730 [15:01] <Blackskyliner> ItsCriminal: he meant Striky
#2731 [15:01] <Shadow386> ew bukkit?
#2732 [15:01] <rockstartyler> you have to log in to MC sever to play MP even if its lanm
#2733 [15:01] <rockstartyler> lan
#2734 [15:02] <Striky> yes. but his inet won´t work for unknown reason. tahts why we wanted to play in offline mode
#2735 [15:02] <Blackskyliner> ItsCriminal: could be a bukkit problem.. try a newer or oder version, or try without... mhm... don't know if that would broke the world...
#2736 [15:02] <xales> Striky: Do you mind giving me your username so I can make sure?
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#2738 [15:02] <Shadow386> !paid shadow386
#2739 [15:02] <Shadow386> <3
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#2741 [15:04] <Striky> why is my login name important?
#2742 [15:05] <ItsCriminal> ^^
#2743 [15:05] <xales> I need to check you own the game to help you
#2744 [15:05] <xales> Your hesitation to give it to me makes me think you don't own it
#2745 [15:06] <ItsCriminal> i love how he is not saying anything anymore :D
#2746 [15:06] <Blackskyliner> hehehe
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#2748 [15:07] <rockstartyler> lol its so worth the money, dont be a pirate
#2749 [15:07] <ItsCriminal> tell that him :D
#2750 [15:07] <Blackskyliner> I dont understand ppl's who share it anyway, after playing it and understand the principle why it is so cheap... Indie games always needs userhelp to grow :)
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#2752 [15:07] <ItsCriminal> for sure
#2753 [15:08] <palfi> trying to set up a server. Enable to connect with local ip, but cant connect over the internet. Says connection refused: connect. Have forwarded ports. any ideas?
#2754 [15:08] <ItsCriminal> cmon i paied 15€ and its all worth it
#2755 [15:08] <xales> palfi: Do you have a firewall running?
#2756 [15:08] <rockstartyler> im having to say issue as palfi
#2757 [15:09] <xales> ^lol!
#2758 [15:09] <xales> durr
#2759 [15:09] <Blackskyliner> durr?
#2760 [15:10] <xales> yes.
#2761 [15:10] <Blackskyliner> what does it stands for? xD
#2762 [15:11] <palfi> no firewall :s
#2763 [15:12] <Blackskyliner> So you hav eno Windows firewall activated, no other program which could block from SW side, you also have forwarded the port... also from the right source port to the right destination port? and also to you computeradress?
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#2766 [15:13] <Blackskyliner> running on default port? if thats not the case, forgot the port after ip address in the connectionstring?
#2767 [15:13] <drezi> can anyone else log on a server?
#2768 [15:13] <drezi> :/
#2769 [15:14] <rockstartyler> drezi what do you mean?
#2770 [15:14] <Blackskyliner> drezi: to a server or your server? or a special server? which server? xD
#2771 [15:14] <drezi> i can't log any server atm
#2772 [15:14] <drezi> a server
#2773 [15:14] <Blackskyliner> drezi: same problem with a freshly installed client? using online or offline mode?
#2774 [15:15] <drezi> i tried both
#2775 [15:15] <rockstartyler> i just tried a public server i used to play on, it works.
#2776 [15:15] <drezi> hmm
#2777 [15:15] <Blackskyliner> try a fresh client after wiping the old ones... maybe some mod incompabilities - dont know if thats possible...
#2778 [15:16] <Kealper> rawr
#2779 [15:16] * Blackskyliner crawls Kealper
#2779 [15:16] <Kealper> :o
#2780 [15:16] <palfi> can I run a client and a server on the same computer?
#2781 [15:16] <drezi> yea
#2782 [15:16] <drezi> :P
#2783 [15:16] <xales> Kealper
#2784 [15:16] <xales> tiem for you to help!
#2785 [15:17] <rockstartyler> is there a way to test if an outside connection will come through on a server? all my friends are still at school and i ahve no way to trouble shoot
#2786 [15:17] * xales is buuuusssyy :(
#2786 [15:17] <xales> rockstartyler: use the !check thing
#2787 [15:17] <drezi> hmm
#2788 [15:17] <drezi> its working
#2789 [15:17] <drezi> :D
#2790 [15:17] <Blackskyliner> palfi: ys you can
#2791 [15:17] <Kealper> wut
#2792 [15:17] <xales> Kealper
#2793 [15:17] <xales> help people
#2794 [15:17] <rockstartyler> what does that mean????
#2795 [15:17] <xales> rockstartyler: !check (yourip)
#2796 [15:17] <Elvang> !check
#2797 [15:17] <Kealper> ugh....i just got back lol
#2798 [15:17] <rockstartyler> ive nvr heard of that?
#2799 [15:17] <Kealper> free help! get it while it's hot!
#2800 [15:17] <rockstartyler> i type that in my server box?
#2801 [15:18] <rockstartyler> the !check thing?
#2802 [15:18] <Blackskyliner> no just type it in here, in the irc chat
#2803 [15:18] <Blackskyliner> so AuBot will try to check if the server is running
#2804 [15:18] <Blackskyliner> !check sexygaming.de
#2805 [15:18] <rockstartyler> !check 98.95.234.211:50500
#2806 [15:19] <rockstartyler> !check 98.95.234.211
#2807 [15:21] <rockstartyler> !check 98.95.234.211
#2808 [15:21] <palfi> !check 193.71.117.13
#2809 [15:21] <Blackskyliner> mhm.. dies AuBot knows how to decode the additional port destination?
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#2811 [15:22] <Shadow386> !check smp.shadow-craft.net
#2812 [15:22] <palfi> !check 193.71.117.13
#2813 [15:22] <Shadow386> !check smp.shadow-craft.net:25570
#2814 [15:22] <Shadow386> i want AuBot.
#2815 [15:22] <Shadow386> Who owns it so I can get a copy in my channel?
#2816 [15:23] <Blackskyliner> you could code it urself xD
#2817 [15:23] <palfi> auBot lies :p
#2818 [15:23] <Blackskyliner> its just a simple pythonbot which checks via a tcp connection if the adress/port is responding
#2819 [15:24] <Kealper> uhh....
#2820 [15:24] <Shadow386> I dont feel like coding python at the moment though :<
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#2822 [15:24] <Kealper> if you were serious i could put it in your channel...but i'd have to rewrite that module that has all the support stuff for this channel
#2823 [15:25] <Shadow386> well perhaps you could just toss me the source and I could rewrite it? :D
#2824 [15:25] <Kealper> windows only, and it's autoit
#2825 [15:26] <mib_tph0g7> Hi! Can you help me? I've got a problem, I can't run the game. So I didn't pay for it, I just want to try the free version, but there is now window to play on the website :S
#2826 [15:26] <Shadow386> windows only?
#2827 [15:27] <Shadow386> mib_tph0g7 install java?
#2828 [15:27] <mib_tph0g7> yes
#2829 [15:27] <Blackskyliner> Uh, Oh Autoit :) wasnt there an project to also port it to other OS'es?
#2830 [15:27] <rockstartyler> !check 98.95.234.211
#2831 [15:27] <Kealper> idk, it'd be nice if there was, it's quite a powerful language once you get past it's history as an automation language :/
#2832 [15:28] <Blackskyliner> Hehe, I'm the one who just codes everything, even little servers in PHP cuz its also fitted for that ;)
#2833 [15:28] <Kealper> lol
#2834 [15:28] <drezi> my server isnt working for me
#2835 [15:28] <Blackskyliner> so there also needs to be an autoit fraction which does the same ;)
#2836 [15:28] <drezi> can anyone test my server
#2837 [15:28] <drezi> 4 me
#2838 [15:28] <drezi> 76.74.156.71:26065
#2839 [15:29] <Kealper> !check 76.74.156.71:26065
#2840 [15:29] <Blackskyliner> xD
#2841 [15:29] <Kealper> checked :o
#2842 [15:29] <Blackskyliner> faster than me
#2843 [15:29] <drezi> can u log in?
#2844 [15:29] <Kealper> oh, tha...1 sec
#2845 [15:29] <Kealper> that*
#2846 [15:29] <drezi> it says bad login
#2847 [15:29] <drezi> i can connect to other servers tho
#2848 [15:29] <drezi> :/
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#2850 [15:30] <rockstartyler> drezi im in it :D
#2851 [15:30] <drezi> hmm
#2852 [15:30] <Kealper> there is a forest fire at your spawn :/
#2853 [15:30] <drezi> lol
#2854 [15:30] <drezi> i know
#2855 [15:30] <drezi> xD
#2856 [15:30] <drezi> its a pretty new server
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#2858 [15:30] <Kealper> what ip are you using to try and connect?
#2859 [15:30] <drezi> :P
#2860 [15:30] <drezi> the one i gave you
#2861 [15:30] <Kealper> is it running on the same computer that you play it on?
#2862 [15:31] <drezi> no
#2863 [15:31] <drezi> i rent it from multiplay
#2864 [15:32] <Kealper> that's...weird...
#2865 [15:32] <Kealper> 1 sec, lemme test something
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#2867 [15:33] <Drez> dam
#2868 [15:33] <Kealper> open cmd and type ping 76.74.156.71
#2869 [15:33] <Drez> my firefox crashed
#2870 [15:33] <Drez> :/
#2871 [15:33] <Kealper> :/
#2872 [15:33] <Drez> and...
#2873 [15:33] <rockstartyler> !check 98.95.234.221
#2874 [15:33] <Drez> what do i look for
#2875 [15:34] <Drez> i get a reply
#2876 [15:34] <Kealper> hmm....so you can ping it fine?
#2877 [15:34] <Drez> yea
#2878 [15:34] <Kealper> that's....weird....and you can connect to other people's servers just fine?
#2879 [15:37] <rockstartyler> !check 98.95.234.221
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#2881 [15:37] <Awesome123> hey guys
#2882 [15:37] <Kealper> ello
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#2885 [15:37] <drezi> ok
#2886 [15:37] <drezi> this is awfull
#2887 [15:37] <drezi> :/
#2888 [15:37] <drezi> whenever i try to connect through online
#2889 [15:37] <drezi> my firefox crashes
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#2891 [15:38] <Awesome123> i have a question, can i change the e-mail from my minecraft acc?
#2892 [15:38] <Kealper> drezi: try using the downloaded client
#2893 [15:38] <Kealper> !client
#2894 [15:38] <Kealper> Awesome123: no, you can not change the email right now as far as i am aware
#2895 [15:38] <drezi> it says login failed now -,-
#2896 [15:39] <Awesome123> asking the support to change my email is not possible?
#2897 [15:39] <Kealper> hmm....minecraft.net might be screwing up again ._.
#2898 [15:39] <drezi> :P
#2899 [15:39] <rockstartyler> i think i finally got it :D
#2900 [15:39] <drezi> when will mc get a better dedicated server
#2901 [15:39] <drezi> :P
#2902 [15:39] <rockstartyler> yeah!!!
#2903 [15:39] <Shadow386> kealper what language?
#2904 [15:39] <Kealper> Awesome123: no, i don't think they will do email changes at all right now
#2905 [15:40] <Kealper> Shadow386: for aubot?
#2906 [15:40] <Shadow386> yes
#2907 [15:40] <Kealper> AutoIt
#2908 [15:40] <Kealper> but you did remind me that i have to rewrite the mchelp module...so....
#2909 [15:40] <Shadow386> needs to be running 24/7 on windows for it to be showing on the channe;?
#2910 [15:40] * Kealper cracks open code
#2910 [15:40] <Kealper> indeed
#2911 [15:40] <Shadow386> hm
#2912 [15:40] <Shadow386> I can try to see if I can port it over to linux then
#2913 [15:41] <Shadow386> brb checking
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#2915 [15:41] <Kealper> and the way it works is not for the faint of heart, as it needs to run separate instances of it's module process to have modules loaded :/
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#2917 [15:41] <sivik> Why does minecraft stop responding over the network after about 2 days of uptime?
#2918 [15:41] <Kealper> otherwise if one module crashed, it would crash all of them :/
#2919 [15:42] <Shadow386> I'm sure i could optimize it well enough
#2920 [15:42] <drezi> imma reset my password
#2921 [15:42] <Awesome123> and changing the name isn't possible too, right?
#2922 [15:42] <Kealper> sivik: sounds like a NIC issue on your computer :/
#2923 [15:42] <Shadow386> i plan to only add a few small things anyways
#2924 [15:42] <sivik> Kealper, we have tried with both wireless and wired
#2925 [15:42] <Shadow386> maybe your internet has a bandwidth issue?
#2926 [15:42] <drezi> i changed my password so i can log in
#2927 [15:42] <sivik> Shadow386, its a local network with 100 mbps connection
#2928 [15:42] <drezi> but i still cant connect to the server
#2929 [15:42] <Blackskyliner> Shadow386: Autoit can be runned @Linux via wine
#2930 [15:42] <sivik> And remote users can access it
#2931 [15:43] <Shadow386> eww
#2932 [15:43] <Shadow386> wine :<
#2933 [15:43] <Blackskyliner> But you would need X11 suport to run AutoIt i think...
#2934 [15:43] <Kealper> Shadow386: unless you planned on rewriting it in a new language, it's already about as good as it's going to get, and i doubt it runs right under wine :/
#2935 [15:43] <Blackskyliner> So after all its not good for any server enviorment
#2936 [15:43] <Kealper> and if you were going to rewrite it, then it would probably just be easier to make your own bot lol
#2937 [15:43] <Shadow386> I'll just use it on my desktop or a similar desktop that i can run 24/7
#2938 [15:43] <Shadow386> maybe I'll just build a small computer just for the bot and run it
#2939 [15:44] <Blackskyliner> And here comes the Bill for electricity
#2940 [15:44] <Blackskyliner> :)
#2941 [15:45] <Shadow386> power bill isnt an issue
#2942 [15:45] <Shadow386> plus like I said, tiny computer ;P
#2943 [15:45] <Blackskyliner> little windows VHosts don't costs this muhc, it would be about an equivilent choice...
#2944 [15:45] <Shadow386> my mom runs more things in this house then I do, so if anything I could blame her if she asks >_>
#2945 [15:45] <Shadow386> find me a good cheap one then
#2946 [15:45] <Shadow386> :P
#2947 [15:45] <drezi> whats with all the voids on my server? is there any way to fix that :/
#2948 [15:45] <Kealper> http://vpsland.com
#2949 [15:45] <sivik> Kealper, remote users can connect, just not locally inside the network.
#2950 [15:46] <Kealper> drezi: define voids?
#2951 [15:46] <drezi> giant holes leading to the bottom
#2952 [15:46] <Kealper> sivik: sounds like a router issue, then....what ip are you using to connect to it locally when it fails?
#2953 [15:46] <Kealper> drezi: those are a client bug, relog to fix it
#2954 [15:46] <Shadow386> Kealper is that what you use for AuBot?
#2955 [15:46] <Blackskyliner> Shadow386: European or USA?
#2956 [15:46] <drezi> mk
#2957 [15:46] <Shadow386> I'm in the US
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#2959 [15:46] <drezi> they are cool though
#2960 [15:46] <drezi> :D
#2961 [15:46] <Shadow386> but it doesnt matter, my internet can handle
#2962 [15:46] <drezi> i mine around em and find the iron
#2963 [15:47] <drezi> :D
#2964 [15:47] <drezi> and other stuff
#2965 [15:47] <Shadow386> just relog
#2966 [15:47] <Shadow386> its a chunk error
#2967 [15:47] <Kealper> Shadow386: no, i've got my own windows server at home...which works out better since i can update it as i see fit without having to mess with other servers and stuff
#2968 [15:47] <Blackskyliner> Then his site would be a good choice.
#2969 [15:47] <lice> Personne est français svp? :x
#2970 [15:47] <Blackskyliner> Or you ask Kealper to host one 4ya
#2971 [15:47] <Blackskyliner> :)
#2972 [15:47] <drezi> now i cant log in again
#2973 [15:47] <Shadow386> well i plan to only host it to check my servers :P
#2974 [15:47] <drezi> i keep having to change my password
#2975 [15:47] <Kealper> but i still say it would be easier to just have aubot sit in your channel, since it's already running 24/7 lol
#2976 [15:47] <drezi> to log in
#2977 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> lice: #MineCraftHelp ne parlez pas francais.
#2978 [15:48] <newtonseple> anybody else having trouble to log into servers?
#2979 [15:48] <Shadow386> if you wouldnt mind :P
#2980 [15:48] <Shadow386> name can stay, just need it to check all my servers and a few other things. possibility to allow me to get access to just the info files?
#2981 [15:48] <Kealper> what did you want access to? the stuff like !check, !myip, and other stuff?
#2982 [15:48] <Blackskyliner> !commands
#2983 [15:49] <Blackskyliner> !help
#2984 [15:49] <Shadow386> pretty much
#2985 [15:49] <Shadow386> if you wouldnt mind :D
#2986 [15:49] <newtonseple> !myip
#2987 [15:49] <Kealper> oh, yeah gimme a few, i just have to batch-replace something in that module and reload it
#2988 [15:49] <sivik> Kealper, 192.168.1.6
#2989 [15:49] <Shadow386> alright thanks
#2990 [15:49] <Shadow386> sivik we cant connect to that lol
#2991 [15:49] <Kealper> sivik: try using your external ip then :/
#2992 [15:50] <sivik> stronghall.dyndns.org
#2993 [15:50] <drezi> omg
#2994 [15:50] <drezi> this is hopeless
#2995 [15:50] <Blackskyliner> !check stronghall.dyndns.org
#2996 [15:50] <drezi> i can't log on at all
#2997 [15:50] <drezi> without changing my password again
#2998 [15:50] <sivik> Blackskyliner, it works remotly, just not locally
#2999 [15:50] <sivik> I get connection time out
#3000 [15:50] <Blackskyliner> sam computer or dedicated machine, other than your client?
#3001 [15:51] <sivik> Blackskyliner, its a server hosted on the same network
#3002 [15:51] <Blackskyliner> mhm and it wont work with even the stronghall.dyndns.org and the local internal address?
#3003 [15:51] <sivik> It worked that time.
#3004 [15:51] <sivik> Blackskyliner, its working onw
#3005 [15:52] <sivik> I was getting timeout a few minutes ago
#3006 [15:52] <sivik> super weird
#3007 [15:52] <Blackskyliner> good to hear :)
#3008 [15:52] <Blackskyliner> Well maybe some server issues or some typo failure
#3009 [15:52] <sivik> I typed the Ip many times
#3010 [15:52] <sivik> It was giving me a protocol issue but now its working
#3011 [15:52] <sivik> super weird
#3012 [15:53] <Blackskyliner> odd, but if it works now :)
#3013 [15:56] <Kealper> Shadow386: what's the channel(s) you want it in?
#3014 [15:56] <Shadow386> #scraft or #shadow-craft
#3015 [15:57] <Kealper> so..both? lol
#3016 [15:57] <Shadow386> yeah why not lol
#3017 [15:57] <Kealper> .auth Shadow386 1
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#3020 [15:58] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#3021 [15:58] <Kealper> !myip
#3022 [15:58] <Kealper> hmm...doesn't like that change....
#3023 [15:59] <Kealper> oh, nvm
#3024 [15:59] <Kealper> !myip
#3025 [15:59] <Blackskyliner> hehehe
#3026 [15:59] <Blackskyliner> decent pice of software? :)
#3027 [15:59] <Kealper> nope, guess doing a replace-all on that was not the best ide alol
#3028 [15:59] <Kealper> idea lol*
#3029 [15:59] <Blackskyliner> hillarious :D
#3030 [15:59] <Kealper> *sigh*....tried to do it the easy way
#3031 [15:59] <Blackskyliner> and now its even harder :>
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#3033 [16:00] <Kealper> DOH
#3034 [16:00] <Kealper> i had an Or where and And was supposed to be :/
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#3036 [16:01] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#3037 [16:01] <Kealper> !myip
#3038 [16:01] <Kealper> ok, works
#3039 [16:01] <Kealper> and it responds to commands done in query now, too
#3040 [16:01] <Kealper> .join #scraft
#3041 [16:02] <Kealper> .join #shadow-craft
#3042 [16:02] <Shadow386> its in both
#3043 [16:02] <Kealper> did you want it to announce an motd on join for those channels?
#3044 [16:03] <Shadow386> how would I go about doing that?
#3045 [16:03] <Kealper> just type .set motd your motd here, which supports all normal irc formatting stuff
#3046 [16:03] <Kealper> not in here though
#3047 [16:03] <Kealper> in the channels that you wanted it set for lol
#3048 [16:03] <Kealper> if you don't want an motd, just type .set motd [disable]
#3049 [16:03] <Shadow386> hm. !commands isnt working
#3050 [16:04] <Kealper> because it's not !commands lol
#3051 [16:04] <Kealper> !help
#3052 [16:04] <Shadow386> oh there it goes
#3053 [16:04] <Shadow386> lol
#3054 [16:04] <Shadow386> ty very much ^^
#3055 [16:04] <Shadow386> once I get a windows computer set up 24/7 for the bot, I'll be sure to let you know
#3056 [16:07] <Kealper> also if you wanted, you can op it and it'll auto kick anyone who sends 3+ messages in 2 sec lol
#3057 [16:07] <Shadow386> might be a bad thing for my server bot xD
#3058 [16:07] <Shadow386> #scraft is for server-IRC chatter while #shadow-craft is duscussion
#3059 [16:08] <Kealper> lol
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#3061 [16:08] <Shadow386> the !motd isnt working
#3062 [16:08] <Joblev> :L
#3063 [16:09] <Shadow386> !motd
#3064 [16:09] <Kaervan> Hey guys, I've been searching the forums for a solution to this exception in main thread error, but I'm not having any luck. I found one thread that suggests removing java and reinstalling. I tried this and am still getting the error. Trying this on windows using the jar. The binary works fine though.
#3065 [16:09] <Joblev> I was so happy cuz I was going to buy minecraft today :L
#3066 [16:09] <Joblev> And now I found that this card is only valid in the US
#3067 [16:09] <Shadow386> check paths?
#3068 [16:09] <Joblev> >_<
#3069 [16:09] <Kealper> yeah, that !motd command is not working right now, since i switched the motd handling to a different module, but gimme a few sec and i'll get it working again
#3070 [16:09] <Shadow386> Joblev send it to me and I'll help :D
#3071 [16:09] <Shadow386> alright Kealper
#3072 [16:09] <Joblev> -.-
#3073 [16:10] <Joblev> Well bye >=^[
#3074 [16:10] <Kaervan> Shadow386: was that for me? path is good
#3075 [16:11] <Shadow386> paths in environment variables?
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#3077 [16:11] <Shadow386> also, try just making a .bat with java -jar minecraft_server.jar
#3078 [16:11] <Shadow386> sometimes it does that :<
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#3081 [16:12] <Kiyo> Hello, is any one else having troubles connecting to some of the online worlds?
#3082 [16:13] <Kaervan> yeah, path in env var is good, i can call java without full path. When I try to run with -jar, it says invalid or corrupt jarfile, even if I specify the full path to the file
#3083 [16:13] <Kealper> Kiyo: what sort of troubles are you getting when trying to connect?
#3084 [16:13] <Kealper> Kaervan: did you redownload the jar? lol
#3085 [16:13] <Kaervan> Kealper: multiple times :(
#3086 [16:13] <Kealper> hmm....
#3087 [16:14] <Kiyo> i dont know i went to bed and my server was fine now i keep getting took to long or some other error. my friend got in just a min ago but i keep getting the error.
#3088 [16:14] <Kaervan> could you tell me a sha1 or md5?
#3089 [16:14] <Kealper> maybe....lol
#3090 [16:15] <Shadow386> where is the .bat file located compared to the jar file?\
#3091 [16:15] <Kealper> Kiyo: stop your server, open server.properties, set online-mode to false, restart server
#3092 [16:15] <Kiyo> i got in, man this seems to happen every day between 3 and 6 pm est and it seems to be other servers as well.
#3093 [16:15] <Shadow386> kiddies are getting off school
#3094 [16:15] <Kaervan> minecraft is popular :)
#3095 [16:16] <Shadow386> they bomb the minecraft.net with their kiddieness
#3096 [16:16] <Shadow386> crashes servers.
#3097 [16:16] <Kiyo> online mode to false? this is not a local server wont that not let me log in?
#3098 [16:16] <Shadow386> er minecraft.net
#3099 [16:16] <Shadow386> it will let you log in
#3100 [16:16] <Shadow386> but you will show up as player
#3101 [16:16] <Kaervan> blah, md5 won't do any good. my jar has the chunk mod
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#3103 [16:16] <Shadow386> Kaervan where is the .bat and .jar located
#3104 [16:17] <Shadow386> usually it's best to have them in the same folder
#3105 [16:17] <Kealper> chunk mod is probably what is doing it
#3106 [16:17] <Kealper> rename that, and download a fresh copy to see if it works :/
#3107 [16:17] <Kiyo> i take it that will also turn off your skin as its bypassing the minecraft servers?
#3108 [16:17] <Shadow386> yes
#3109 [16:17] <Kaervan> Shadow386: both in the same dir. c:\MC
#3110 [16:17] <Kealper> skins still work on offline mode\
#3111 [16:17] <Shadow386> then do what Kealper said
#3112 [16:18] <Kealper> assuming minecraft.net is accessable, skins will work fine
#3113 [16:18] <Shadow386> oh wait, I was thinking of something else
#3114 [16:18] <Shadow386> nvm >.>
#3115 [16:18] <Shadow386> just do what he said Kaervan and it should work then
#3116 [16:18] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#3117 [16:18] <Kiyo> great good to know next time if it gets to bad ill just set it to that.
#3118 [16:18] <Kealper> !motd
#3119 [16:18] <Kealper> woohoo!
#3120 [16:19] <Shadow386> working in the channels as well
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#3122 [16:20] <Kaervan> dang. guess that was it
#3123 [16:20] <Kealper> that's why this channel does not provide support for mods :P
#3124 [16:20] <Shadow386> lol
#3125 [16:20] <Kealper> they have a tendency to break stuff pretty bad when they do fail
#3126 [16:20] <Kaervan> works for me
#3127 [16:20] <Kaervan> I was just getting complaints that the server was slow
#3128 [16:20] <Kaervan> and it was using like 950/1024M
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#3132 [16:24] <Kaervan> thanks for your help. I wouldnt' have continued to persue using the chunk mod, but I thought I started it once with the mod. I just changed the reserved memory to a gig and a half. I'll just remember to use different instances of the process for testing junk instead of angering users :)
#3133 [16:25] <Blackskyliner> gn8, ppls. :)
#3134 [16:26] <YeTr2> Is there a minecraft server that supports a survival mode with support for portals to hellworld?
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#3136 [16:26] <nevercast> hey kealper
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#3139 [16:27] <Rob> Hello?
#3140 [16:28] <Rob> Anyone here?
#3141 [16:28] <nevercast> hey Rob
#3142 [16:28] <Rob> Hello.
#3143 [16:28] <Rob> Got another problem now.
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#3145 [16:28] <nevercast> whats the problem, Rob?
#3146 [16:28] <Guest1390139637> When somebody tries to connect to my server it says 'Took too long to connect'.
#3147 [16:28] <BarryCarlyon> YeTr2: no
#3148 [16:29] <BarryCarlyon> YeTr2: its not possible with out making the whole world nether for all users.
#3149 [16:29] <nevercast> Guest1390139637: Timeout obviously... what internet connection do you have?
#3150 [16:29] <BarryCarlyon> Guest1390139637: that would indicate that minecraft.net is having fun again. IE not verifying users.
#3151 [16:29] <Guest1390139637> I have a wireless connection.
#3152 [16:30] <nevercast> BarryCarlyon: is it minecraft or something along the lines of direct connection/
#3153 [16:30] <BarryCarlyon> Client talks to server, server failts to talk to minecraft.
#3154 [16:30] <BarryCarlyon> Too long to connect occurs
#3155 [16:30] <BarryCarlyon> Generally
#3156 [16:31] <YeTr2> disabling online mode disables auth which will allow you to log in, but it will allow anyone else to log in as well.
#3157 [16:31] <BarryCarlyon> And everyone is the same person and wont get their inventory.
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#3160 [16:33] <YeTr2> so, what would be entailed for getting multiworld active? anyone attempting any solutions?
#3161 [16:34] <BarryCarlyon> YeTr2: get server admin to change hellworld to 1 in server.properties.
#3162 [16:34] <BarryCarlyon> But still no working portals.
#3163 [16:35] <nevercast> kealper is in trouble ;p
#3164 [16:35] <YeTr2> BarryCarlyon: I would want working portals so I can go between normal & hell
#3165 [16:35] <YeTr2> I guess tha'ts still a ways off
#3166 [16:35] <Guest1390139637> So what should I tell my friend?
#3167 [16:35] <nevercast> kealper has trademark infringement :P
#3168 [16:35] <BarryCarlyon> Guest1390139637: nothing just try try again
#3169 [16:35] <nevercast> ^
#3170 [16:35] <BarryCarlyon> nevercast: why/how?
#3171 [16:35] <Guest1390139637> So keep trying until it works?
#3172 [16:35] <BarryCarlyon> YeTr2: yip
#3173 [16:35] <Guest1390139637> If you say so.
#3174 [16:35] <Guest1390139637> Thanks for the help.
#3175 [16:35] <BarryCarlyon> Guest1390139637: if it doesn't work try again later.
#3176 [16:36] <nevercast> BarryCarlyon: his website.. he breaks trademark agreements on part of kde.
#3177 [16:37] <BarryCarlyon> o
#3178 [16:37] <BarryCarlyon> lol
#3179 [16:37] <BarryCarlyon> Url?
#3180 [16:38] <Shadow386> I think I'll just make a pircbot
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#3182 [16:41] <nevercast> BarryCarlyon: kealper.com
#3183 [16:41] <nevercast> BarryCarlyon: The terms kchat and scp i believe are trademarked...
#3184 [16:41] <nevercast> BarryCarlyon: I'm not sure entirely what the infringement is. but a member of the kde project is examining his site right now :P
#3185 [16:42] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: hey
#3186 [16:42] <drezi> ...
#3187 [16:43] <drezi> is there an admin that can help me/
#3188 [16:43] <drezi> :/
#3189 [16:43] <ssen> I'm an admin of my own making.
#3190 [16:43] <drezi> i cant log in
#3191 [16:43] <ssen> Admin of nothing else though.
#3192 [16:44] <Kealper> wut
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#3194 [16:44] <drezi> i can't log on
#3195 [16:44] <drezi> it says bad login
#3196 [16:44] <drezi> and i changed my pass b4
#3197 [16:44] <drezi> and i got in
#3198 [16:44] <nevercast> hey kealper
#3199 [16:44] <drezi> after i logged off aai
#3200 [16:44] <drezi> again*
#3201 [16:44] <drezi> i can't get back in
#3202 [16:44] <nevercast> welcome back
#3203 [16:45] <Kealper> kde can suck my left nut
#3204 [16:45] <nevercast> kealper, lol.
#3205 [16:45] <nevercast> kealper, i worked out what port 100 is :)
#3206 [16:45] <drezi> i get "An email was recently sent to that user!" when i try to change the pass aswell
#3207 [16:45] <Kealper> oh?
#3208 [16:45] <nevercast> kealper, actually.. i didn't.. someone else did for me.
#3209 [16:45] <Kealper> cheater lol
#3210 [16:45] <nevercast> kealper, it's not what you know. it's who you kow
#3211 [16:45] <nevercast> *know
#3212 [16:46] <Kealper> still cheating
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#3214 [16:47] <Steve_> Good evening to all.
#3215 [16:47] <Steve_> If anyone can lend a hand, I'm having a problem with portals on my server
#3216 [16:48] <Steve_> When I create a portal using /portal water multi then place the portal and exit point
#3217 [16:48] <Steve_> I have an error, 'Portal has no exit'
#3218 [16:48] <Kealper> so....what am i breaking with my domain about kde's legal bullshit that i'm just going to ignore?
#3219 [16:48] <nevercast> kealper, going for a smoke. will discuss port 100 on my return :D
#3220 [16:49] <Kealper> because my chat program starts with a k? which i'm allowed to do as my first name is ken, and it's short for ken's chat?
#3221 [16:49] <Kealper> or the protocol that i made for it, called SCP, which is sort for Simple Chat Protocol?
#3222 [16:50] <Kealper> Steve_: that's for a mod...you will have to contact the maker of the mod for support with it
#3223 [16:50] <Steve_> Ok, how can I find that
#3224 [16:50] <Steve_> I own the server with a friend of mine
#3225 [16:50] <Kealper> but if i had to guess, i'd say whatever that portal is linking to is not there
#3226 [16:50] <Steve_> We can't figure out why it won't work
#3227 [16:51] <Kealper> i would not know where to direct you for that, since i'm not sure what mod you are running to get that feature
#3228 [16:51] <Steve_> does McLawl make sense?
#3229 [16:51] <Steve_> is McLawl the mod?
#3230 [16:51] <Kealper> oh, that
#3231 [16:51] <Steve_> He set it up, I'm just the script runner
#3232 [16:52] <Kealper> that would be it, but i'm not sure if this network has a support channel for it :/
#3233 [16:52] <Steve_> ok
#3234 [16:52] <Kealper> i stopped messing with Classic a long time ago, so i'm quite out of touch with resources for it :/
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#3236 [16:52] <Steve_> i'll take a peek and see what i can find.
#3237 [16:52] <Steve_> Thanks for your help mate.
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#3243 [17:00] <nevercast> back
#3244 [17:00] <Kealper> Bradford, UK?
#3245 [17:00] <Kealper> what is this i don't even >.>
#3246 [17:01] <nevercast> kealper...
#3247 [17:01] <nevercast> what is your chat server written in/
#3248 [17:01] <Kealper> AutoIt? why
#3249 [17:02] <nevercast> how do you read input
#3250 [17:02] <nevercast> is it like
#3251 [17:02] <nevercast> readline?
#3252 [17:02] <aetherian> heh
#3253 [17:02] <aetherian> autoit
#3254 [17:02] <nevercast> kealper, do you read byte array
#3255 [17:02] <nevercast> or readline?
#3256 [17:02] <Kealper> for what?
#3257 [17:03] <nevercast> reading from a network stream/
#3258 [17:03] <Kealper> TCPRecv, supply the socket ID, and the ammount of bytes you want to read from the buffer and it returns it...no dirty stuff needed
#3259 [17:04] <nevercast> that's pretty cool
#3260 [17:04] <nevercast> how would you read to a new line then/
#3261 [17:04] <Kealper> for messages?
#3262 [17:04] <Kealper> to determine who sends what?
#3263 [17:04] <nevercast> yeah
#3264 [17:04] <nevercast> well i mean like
#3265 [17:04] <nevercast> if i have a \n terminated message
#3266 [17:04] <aetherian> kealper, is your bot a male or female?
#3267 [17:04] <nevercast> and i wanna receive that with auto it
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#3269 [17:05] <mensaap> hello
#3270 [17:05] <aetherian> hello
#3271 [17:05] <Kealper> all packets are closed with a CR and LF, so i can just split the buffer into an array by CRLFs, and i get each individual packet in it's own subvar
#3272 [17:05] <mensaap> I need help with this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=171816
#3273 [17:05] <nevercast> kealper, oh okay awesome ;0
#3274 [17:05] <Kealper> so for c# it's probably \r\n
#3275 [17:05] <mensaap> has anybody encountered this before?
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#3277 [17:06] <nevercast> okay
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#3280 [17:06] <Kealper> you do realize that i wrote a ghetto spec-sheet on the protocol, right? lol
#3281 [17:07] <nevercast> kealper, yes I know. I've sent that to sweden
#3282 [17:07] <Kealper> eh?
#3283 [17:07] <nevercast> i sent the spec-sheet to sweden
#3284 [17:08] <Kealper> is it wrong of me to kickban someone for not liking them?
#3285 [17:08] <nevercast> depends.. do you like me/
#3286 [17:08] <Kealper> no....not really
#3287 [17:08] <nevercast> hmm.
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#3289 [17:08] <aetherian> kealper, answer mah question
#3290 [17:08] <Kealper> jesus what
#3291 [17:08] <mensaap> so nobody can help me :(?
#3292 [17:09] <aetherian> is your bot male or female
#3293 [17:09] <Kealper> mensaap: i recognize that from yesterday, and i already didn't have any idea :/
#3294 [17:09] <Kealper> aetherian: whatever you want it to be, let your imagination run wild
#3295 [17:09] <aetherian> that doesn't work
#3296 [17:09] <aetherian> >.>
#3297 [17:09] <BarryCarlyon> What did I miss?
#3298 [17:09] <aetherian> nothing
#3299 [17:10] <BarryCarlyon> Woot!
#3300 [17:10] <mensaap> k
#3301 [17:10] <aetherian> kealps, your bot is so sweet
#3302 [17:10] * aetherian hugs aubot
#3302 [17:10] <Kealper> BarryCarlyon: i have a question for you...is it wrong of me to kick/perma ban someone from this channel just because i don't like them?
#3303 [17:10] <aetherian> yes, yes it is.
#3304 [17:11] <aetherian> I think you should only do that in a more personal channel
#3305 [17:11] <aetherian> out of curiosity, who is it you're kickbanning?
#3306 [17:11] <BarryCarlyon> Kealper: generally it is frowned upon.
#3307 [17:11] <Kealper> that's what i figured, too
#3308 [17:11] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#3309 [17:11] <Kealper> seems like nevercast is here to stay until he breaks a rule then
#3310 [17:12] <BarryCarlyon> Just add it to the channel rules and profit.
#3311 [17:12] <mensaap> warning: found unknown windows version: windows 7 <=== does this cause problems?
#3312 [17:12] <aetherian> ohhh him
#3313 [17:12] <nevercast> yeah me apparently.
#3314 [17:12] <BarryCarlyon> Windows 7 was my idea.
#3315 [17:12] <Kealper> i can't be assed to dig up the ftp info for that rule list
#3316 [17:12] <nevercast> kealper doesn't like me ^_^ idk why
#3317 [17:12] <aetherian> what did you do this time, nevercast
#3318 [17:12] <nevercast> aetherian: no idea lol.
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#3320 [17:12] <aetherian> what did you do this time, nevercast
#3321 [17:12] <aetherian> ack
#3322 [17:12] <BarryCarlyon> He didn't cast friendship.
#3323 [17:12] <aetherian> dammit
#3324 [17:13] <aetherian> sorry for the extra hilight, I gotta turn off that function
#3325 [17:13] <redhat> hello all
#3326 [17:13] <Kealper> probably something about being a hardass about a protocol i made
#3327 [17:13] <aetherian> hey communist hat
#3328 [17:13] <nevercast> Kealper, hardass? I like the protocol.
#3329 [17:13] <BarryCarlyon> lol
#3330 [17:13] <Kealper> redhat is a linux distro, not some russian headgear
#3331 [17:13] <ItsCriminal> my minecraft client wont work anymore
#3332 [17:13] <ItsCriminal> it says something about mainclass
#3333 [17:13] <ItsCriminal> not found
#3334 [17:13] <nevercast> ItsCriminal: remove mods
#3335 [17:13] <Kealper> ItsCriminal: do you use any mods?
#3336 [17:14] <ItsCriminal> on my client no
#3337 [17:14] <redhat> I seem to have an issue. I bought minecraft awhile ago, haven't played it in a couple monts, and I go to play it now, it lets me download the client, but then when I try to play it says "user not premium". Any idea why?
#3338 [17:14] <ItsCriminal> nothing is modded on my client
#3339 [17:14] <Kealper> redhat: one of two possible explanations
#3340 [17:14] <nevercast> redhat, i heard about that bug too.... you'll need to contact notch probably
#3341 [17:14] * DopeGhoti looks around. Someone pinged him.
#3341 [17:14] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: was i
#3342 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> what's up?
#3343 [17:15] <redhat> what's the best way to contact notch nevercast?
#3344 [17:15] <nevercast> Kealper, is AutoIt difficult to learn or is it rather an easy learning curve/
#3345 [17:15] <nevercast> redhat, between his holidays and large amount of offline time.. idk, forums? twitter?
#3346 [17:15] <redhat> now I really wanna play and I can't
#3347 [17:15] <redhat> :<
#3348 [17:15] <Shadow386> Kealper so i decided to try pircbot
#3349 [17:15] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: Not much.
#3350 [17:15] <Kealper> redhat: either your payment for your game was charged back, or you are using the wrong account
#3351 [17:16] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: just chillin' on irc at course.
#3352 [17:16] <aetherian> back
#3353 [17:16] <redhat> Kealper: it wasn't charged back (I checked) and I only have one account, which is saved in my password manager
#3354 [17:16] <Kealper> if chillin' is defined as saying you've reported something that a channel op made to some place, then yes, chillin' is what you've been doing
#3355 [17:17] <nevercast> Kealper, I didn't report anything
#3356 [17:17] <nevercast> Kealper, you miss-understood me.
#3357 [17:17] <Kealper> and you don't need to learn autoit to use that protocol
#3358 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: swanky.
#3359 [17:17] <nevercast> Kealper: no I know.. I'm not planning on using the protocol.
#3360 [17:17] <Kealper> apparently....care to elabourate before i rageban you?
#3361 [17:17] <nevercast> Kealper: it seems you mention a lot of things about AutoIt. was curious if it was worth learning.
#3362 [17:17] <aetherian> kealper: why do you hate him?
#3363 [17:18] * aetherian is curious
#3363 [17:18] <nevercast> Kealper: I sent it to a mate in sweden to mock up a client for it as i can't do it right now.
#3364 [17:18] <ItsCriminal> mhm nobody know why i get that main class not found?
#3365 [17:18] <Kealper> i mention autoit a lot beause i am an admitted fanboy of it
#3366 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: not enough electives?
#3367 [17:18] <ItsCriminal> electives?
#3368 [17:18] <nevercast> Kealper, is it worth learning? what does it have going for it?
#3369 [17:18] <ItsCriminal> wait i let google translate it :D
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#3371 [17:19] <wakx> hi
#3372 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: nevermind. what do you do to generate this error, precisely?
#3373 [17:19] <Kealper> things can be thrown together quite easily, (as with other languages like Python) but it offers methods to get very low-level if you need it
#3374 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> wakx: Salutaiton.s
#3375 [17:19] <ItsCriminal> i just run my exe
#3376 [17:19] <ItsCriminal> and it popsup and exits
#3377 [17:19] <wakx> i need some help
#3378 [17:19] <xales> wakx: With?
#3379 [17:19] <wakx> i have a bug
#3380 [17:19] <nevercast> kealper, It's an interpretted language right?
#3381 [17:19] <Kealper> yes
#3382 [17:19] <wakx> after i plogged in on minecraft and played for like 2min my wifi get off
#3383 [17:19] <ItsCriminal> java is up to date cos it worked befor totaly fine
#3384 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: have you tried reinstalling the binaries?
#3385 [17:19] <nevercast> Kealper, I'll look into it when I get home. sounds like it could replace my scripts in future
#3386 [17:19] <Kealper> but i've found it to be quite fast for an interpreted language
#3387 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#3388 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: ^ this
#3389 [17:20] <ItsCriminal> i try
#3390 [17:20] <xales> wakx: you are playing multiplayer?
#3391 [17:20] <wakx> yea
#3392 [17:20] <Kealper> nevercast: is that your friend that has been trying to connect? from the UK?
#3393 [17:20] <wakx> but
#3394 [17:20] <xales> can you try plugging in the computer in instead of using wifi?
#3395 [17:20] <wakx> if i play without wifi it work
#3396 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> your wifi gets off after only two minutes? Maybe it needs to work on stamina before skipping the foreplay.
#3397 [17:20] <nevercast> kealper, he's not in the uk.. he's in sweden.. why/
#3398 [17:20] <wakx> and this happen only for this game
#3399 [17:21] <xales> Kealper
#3400 [17:21] <wakx> i can keep online with wifi for days without problem
#3401 [17:21] <Kealper> then i'm banning that IP...got some connection attempts from what looks to be a homebrew client from it
#3402 [17:21] <xales> help wakx with rx/tx buffer :)
#3403 [17:21] <sivik> how do you re-load an old backup of mc server? When I restarted, it re-built and removed some of the stuff which was already there.
#3404 [17:21] <Kealper> ugh
#3405 [17:21] <wakx> but on minecraft after 2min my connection is lost
#3406 [17:21] <Kealper> wakx: os?
#3407 [17:21] <wakx> vista
#3408 [17:21] <ItsCriminal> woopwopp it works again :D
#3409 [17:21] <ItsCriminal> thank you all so much
#3410 [17:21] <nevercast> kealper, lol okay. yeah he's probably dun-goofed.
#3411 [17:22] <wakx> rx/tx ?
#3412 [17:22] <Kealper> wakx: go to your start menu search thing
#3413 [17:22] <Kealper> type Device Manager
#3414 [17:22] <wakx> well
#3415 [17:22] <Kealper> tell me when you are in that
#3416 [17:22] <Kealper> ?
#3417 [17:22] <wakx> my computer is in french
#3418 [17:22] <Kealper> right then
#3419 [17:23] <Kealper> it might still be called device manager.....not sure
#3420 [17:23] <Kealper> if not, then there is another way to get to it
#3421 [17:23] <wakx> got it
#3422 [17:23] <nevercast> Kealper, sorry for aggravating you earlier. misunderstanding + me sounding like an asshole?
#3423 [17:24] <wakx> Gestionnaire des périphériques in french :p
#3424 [17:24] <Kealper> nevercast: quite, sounded like you reported it to some random place.....i was nerdraging pretty hard
#3425 [17:24] <Kealper> wakx: O.o....lol
#3426 [17:24] <Kealper> well then
#3427 [17:24] <nevercast> Kealper, It would be a little hypocritical of me to report anyone. Trust me.
#3428 [17:24] <Kealper> find the equivilant of network adapters
#3429 [17:25] <wakx> yea
#3430 [17:25] <wakx> 800.11g
#3431 [17:25] <Kealper> and then look for your network adapter in that list
#3432 [17:25] <wakx> 802.11g*
#3433 [17:25] <nevercast> Kealper, Not to mention, who could I report to? What was wrong and who would care?.. not that it matters. It wasn't like that at all.
#3434 [17:25] <wakx> wireless adapter
#3435 [17:25] <Kealper> nevercast: that's why i was mad when i thought you reported it....i was like "who in their left or right minds would actually report something like that?!"
#3436 [17:26] <nevercast> Kealper, No one I would hope.
#3437 [17:26] <Kealper> wakx: did you find it in the network adapters dropdown list?
#3438 [17:26] <wakx> yea
#3439 [17:26] <Kealper> double click that
#3440 [17:26] <wakx> yea
#3441 [17:26] <Kealper> there will be a tab on the top called Advanced (or whatever it is for french)
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#3443 [17:26] <wakx> yea got it
#3444 [17:26] <Kealper> click that, it should be the second tab over
#3445 [17:26] <wakx> yea
#3446 [17:27] <Kealper> do you see anything like "Recieve Buffers" or "Transmit Buffers" in the list?
#3447 [17:27] <mensaap> java.security.AccessControlException: access denied (java.util.PropertyPermission user.home read)
#3448 [17:27] <mensaap> anybody know how to fix that error?
#3449 [17:27] <Kealper> mensaap: os?
#3450 [17:27] <nevercast> Kealper, Does your chat server support 'channels' /
#3451 [17:27] <wakx> i got HWProbe and NetwordAddress
#3452 [17:27] <xales> mensaap: Are you running Windows?
#3453 [17:27] <nevercast> sounds like someone isn't administrator
#3454 [17:27] <mensaap> xales I am
#3455 [17:27] <mensaap> xales windows 7 64 bit
#3456 [17:27] <Kealper> nevercast: no, it could but i wanted to keep it as simple as possible for people just learning about sockets/string parsing
#3457 [17:27] <xales> mensaap: Run it as administrator
#3458 [17:28] <mensaap> xales I am
#3459 [17:28] <nevercast> mensaap, try running as...
#3460 [17:28] <mensaap> xales UAC disabled
#3461 [17:28] <xales> also disable antivirus if you have any sort of that
#3462 [17:28] <Kealper> wakx: that isn't it, if you don't find those buffers stuff, then your adapter does not support changing them :/
#3463 [17:28] <nevercast> did you right click and press Run as Administrator, mensaap
#3464 [17:28] <mensaap> it's in the browser btw
#3465 [17:28] <xales> internet explorer?
#3466 [17:28] <mensaap> minecraft in the browser
#3467 [17:28] <mensaap> haha no
#3468 [17:28] <nevercast> mensaap: download the client.
#3469 [17:28] <mensaap> chrome
#3470 [17:28] <mensaap> and firefox
#3471 [17:28] <mensaap> and if you remember the client doesn't work
#3472 [17:28] <mensaap> huge lag
#3473 [17:29] <Hawk14> Hiho. I'm using win7 64 and every 5-10 minutes I get a blackscreen in minecraft and a "minecraft doesn't respond" message. anybody knows a solution for this?
#3474 [17:29] <xales> right click chrome's icon and run ad administrator
#3475 [17:29] <xales> Hawk14: Turn down view distance
#3476 [17:29] <nevercast> mensaap: playing in a browser wont change that
#3477 [17:29] <wakx> but
#3478 [17:29] <mensaap> trying to get the browser version to work, because someone mentioned in the forums that his version worked on the browser but not in the client
#3479 [17:29] <Hawk14> hmm k i'll try
#3480 [17:29] <Kealper> Hawk14: what are your system specs?
#3481 [17:29] <wakx> my adapter work good
#3482 [17:29] <Kealper> or that
#3483 [17:29] <nevercast> mensaap: he probably had other issues.
#3484 [17:29] <mensaap> yeah
#3485 [17:29] <mensaap> know
#3486 [17:29] <mensaap> still what little hope I have
#3487 [17:29] <mensaap> :P
#3488 [17:29] <nevercast> mensaap: try downloading the client. gives you more control
#3489 [17:29] <Hawk14> i7 950, 12 GB RAM, GF 295 GTX
#3490 [17:29] <nevercast> mensaap: Download the exe if anything
#3491 [17:29] <mensaap> next step is installing ubuntu again
#3492 [17:30] <xales> the download version is actually significantly faster
#3493 [17:30] <Kealper> wakx: what was the issue you were having? i was just told to tell you how to change the buffers if possible :/
#3494 [17:30] <xales> not massively, but it is significant
#3495 [17:30] <mensaap> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=171816&p=2482377
#3496 [17:30] <nevercast> mensaap: I've not had a single problem with Minecraft+Ubuntu.. it's always an option
#3497 [17:30] <mensaap> that's my client problem
#3498 [17:30] <wakx> my problem is only on wifi my internet connection is lost after 2min on minecraft
#3499 [17:31] <nevercast> mensaap: grab the minecraft exe
#3500 [17:31] <drezi> kealper
#3501 [17:31] <nevercast> mensaap: Also navigate to C:\users\[yourusername]\AppData\.minecraft\bin
#3502 [17:31] <nevercast> mensaap: and delete everything
#3503 [17:31] <drezi> my minecraft pass keeps changing
#3504 [17:31] <mensaap> k
#3505 [17:31] <Kealper> wakx: your wifi adapter might not be able to keep up with how much data minecraft sends :/
#3506 [17:31] <Kealper> drezi: changing without you doing anything O.o
#3507 [17:32] <wakx> i've played many game
#3508 [17:32] <wakx> and never had this
#3509 [17:32] <drezi> yes
#3510 [17:32] <nevercast> wakx, consider using a lan cable.
#3511 [17:32] <drezi> no emails
#3512 [17:32] <drezi> or anything
#3513 [17:32] <xales> wakx: Other games aren't Minecraft
#3514 [17:32] <drezi> i cant log in
#3515 [17:32] <wakx> with a cable it work well
#3516 [17:32] <Kealper> drezi: that's.....not good....
#3517 [17:32] <drezi> unless i change the pass
#3518 [17:32] <mensaap> hmm deleting everything got the browser version to work atleast
#3519 [17:32] <nevercast> wakx: minecraft networking is less than proper.. minecraft is horrible spam
#3520 [17:32] <drezi> when i change the password. i can play
#3521 [17:32] <drezi> but once i relog
#3522 [17:32] <nevercast> mensaap: yeah it clears out the binaries causing a 'reinstall' if anything broke
#3523 [17:32] <drezi> its changes
#3524 [17:32] <drezi> it says "Failed to log in. Wrong username and/or password."
#3525 [17:33] <mensaap> nevercast ok, currently redownloading
#3526 [17:33] <nevercast> mensaap: cool :)
#3527 [17:33] <Hawk14> Kealper: my system specs: i7 950, 12 GB RAM, GF 295 GTX.... but I think that's not the problem
#3528 [17:33] <nevercast> mensaap: let me know if it works
#3529 [17:33] <wakx> ok i will just use a cable when i play minecraft thx everyone for help :)
#3530 [17:33] <xales> drezi: Download this and do a full scan http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam-download.php
#3531 [17:33] <nevercast> Hawk14: That isn't your problem ;)
#3532 [17:33] <nevercast> wakx, welcome.. and let us know if it fixed it okay? :)
#3533 [17:34] <wakx> of course cya
#3534 [17:34] <mensaap> nevercast nope, still major lag
#3535 [17:34] <nevercast> mensaap: what kind of lag is it, cpu lag or network lag?
#3536 [17:34] <nevercast> mensaap: what server are you connecting to?
#3537 [17:34] <mensaap> nevercast cpu, singleplayer
#3538 [17:34] <drezi> kealper is there anything i can do? cuz im sure nobody is just changing it after. I'm guessing it's the login server
#3539 [17:35] <nevercast> mensaap: Set render distance to Tiny, make sure Fog is off and set detail to Fast
#3540 [17:35] <Kealper> drezi: i've never heard of that happening :/
#3541 [17:35] <nevercast> drezi: You might be right. minecraft.net has been having issues recently.
#3542 [17:35] <Kealper> what he said^
#3543 [17:35] <nevercast> It's an odd and isolated issue.. but possible
#3544 [17:35] <mensaap> nevercast that makes it better, but doesn't fix it, still a bit laggy shaky
#3545 [17:35] <drezi> plus i have to wait awhile b4 resetting the pass again
#3546 [17:35] <drezi> -,-
#3547 [17:35] <nevercast> mensaap: open up task manager, how much cpu is it using?
#3548 [17:36] <xales> drezi: Try running a full virus scan with the software I linked you to
#3549 [17:36] <mensaap> 23 %
#3550 [17:36] <mensaap> nevercast 23%
#3551 [17:36] <drezi> linked to me?
#3552 [17:36] <nevercast> mensaap: it's not much.. right click on the process, set priority, high.
#3553 [17:36] <xales> 17:33:30 <@xales> drezi: Download this and do a full scan http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam-download.php
#3554 [17:36] <drezi> mk
#3555 [17:36] <nevercast> drezi: http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam-download.php
#3556 [17:36] <nevercast> eh xales is faster copy-pasta
#3557 [17:36] <Kealper> lol
#3558 [17:37] <xales> hilight->shift->insert :D
#3559 [17:37] <nevercast> I'm using mibbit in a virtual machine...
#3560 [17:37] <nevercast> speed is not an option
#3561 [17:37] <xales> lol
#3562 [17:37] <aetherian> lol
#3563 [17:37] * xales is sorry for you
#3563 [17:37] * nevercast is sorry for me too
#3563 [17:37] <aetherian> I have a vm running, and I want to run a vm inside my vm ;_;
#3564 [17:37] <nevercast> aetherian: well java is a vm :P
#3565 [17:38] <Kealper> lol
#3566 [17:38] <aetherian> lol
#3567 [17:38] <aetherian> not... exactly what I meant
#3568 [17:38] <nevercast> aetherian: how about you run Android Virtual machine? that's VM - > QEMU -> JVM
#3569 [17:38] <nevercast> bang vm vm vm
#3570 [17:38] <aetherian> :O
#3571 [17:38] <aetherian> vroom vroom vroom
#3572 [17:38] <xales> nevercast: I've seen someone running Java in a Xen VPS running in another Xen node >.>
#3573 [17:38] <nevercast> quite the opposite
#3574 [17:38] <mensaap> nevercast minecraft stays at 23% but the memory rises and rises and rises
#3575 [17:39] <nevercast> xales, I've run VMWare in virtual box :d
#3576 [17:39] <xales> lol
#3577 [17:39] <nevercast> mensaap: love to memory leak :P
#3578 [17:39] <nevercast> mensaap: game is still in beta and is full of fail at times.
#3579 [17:39] <mensaap> nevercast yeah thought about that, but don't know alot about memory leaks
#3580 [17:39] <Kealper> mensaap: want me to suggest a very extreme solution that will probably fix it?
#3581 [17:39] <mensaap> format?
#3582 [17:39] <mensaap> :P
#3583 [17:39] <nevercast> ha
#3584 [17:40] <Kealper> indeed, reinstall windows lol
#3585 [17:40] <nevercast> ^
#3586 [17:40] <Kealper> ALTERNATIVELY
#3587 [17:40] <aetherian> *install linux
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#3589 [17:40] <mensaap> I'm currently in spain so
#3590 [17:40] <aetherian> he meant to say
#3591 [17:40] <nevercast> what aetherian said
#3592 [17:40] <mensaap> not rly an option
#3593 [17:40] <Kealper> download Ubuntu or Linux Mint and install it along-side windows
#3594 [17:40] <nevercast> installing linux is always an option
#3595 [17:40] <aetherian> or any distro, kealper
#3596 [17:40] <nevercast> mensaap: I suggest Ubuntu with Wine
#3597 [17:40] <aetherian> quit whining
#3598 [17:40] <mensaap> yeah the problem is
#3599 [17:41] <Kealper> i said Ubuntu or Mint because those support an option to install inside windows without it being a VM
#3600 [17:41] <mensaap> I'm in a eum not a hotel, but a youth hotel thingy
#3601 [17:41] <nevercast> mensaap: it'll install Ubuntu in a dual boot and Ubuntu appears in your windows program list.
#3602 [17:41] <mensaap> and the internet is 50 kB/s max
#3603 [17:41] <mensaap> so 700 mB/s takes me way too long
#3604 [17:41] <Kealper> ouch
#3605 [17:41] <aetherian> what, just use wubi or something?
#3606 [17:41] <nevercast> Kealper: that's why I suggested Wine. It makes that process easy
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#3608 [17:41] <mensaap> and I'm not new to dual booting :P
#3609 [17:41] <nevercast> CRAP
#3610 [17:41] <nevercast> s/wine/wubi/
#3611 [17:41] <nevercast> my mistake.
#3612 [17:41] <Kealper> yeah...i was like wtf?
#3613 [17:41] <aetherian> wutwut
#3614 [17:42] <mensaap> ow by chance, my friend has vmware and fedora with him
#3615 [17:42] <nevercast> yeah now that I read over my comments I'm like.. lolwat
#3616 [17:42] <Kealper> Windows Ubuntu Installer aetherian
#3617 [17:42] <mensaap> could give that a try
#3618 [17:42] <aetherian> I know, kealper
#3619 [17:42] <Kealper> oh
#3620 [17:42] <aetherian> I already said that
#3621 [17:42] <aetherian> scrolllll uppp
#3622 [17:42] <Kealper> OH....derp...
#3623 [17:42] <aetherian> herp
#3624 [17:42] <Kealper> shh >.>
#3625 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> Cheese and crackers, this channel is fast-paced today.
#3626 [17:42] <nevercast> Indeed.
#3627 [17:42] <aetherian> flah
#3628 [17:42] <Kealper> it is, i hate it
#3629 [17:42] <aetherian> ohhhh
#3630 [17:43] <nevercast> And it's not just chatter.. it's like, fixing problems.
#3631 [17:43] <aetherian> kealper, then say you're "getting nachos"\
#3632 [17:43] <Kealper> that sounds like a good idea
#3633 [17:43] <aetherian> lol
#3634 [17:43] <Kealper> brb getting nachos again
#3635 [17:43] <aetherian> kbai
#3636 [17:43] <nevercast> lol
#3637 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> mmm, nachos
#3638 [17:43] * aetherian eats aubot
#3638 [17:43] <nevercast> I don't think he's really getting nachos
#3639 [17:43] <aetherian> omnomnom
#3640 [17:44] <nevercast> I think i'm outies.
#3641 [17:44] <aetherian> bye
#3642 [17:45] <nevercast> When i finally get home I might write a C# library for kealper's chat server.
#3643 [17:45] <nevercast> Then with his permission, implement it into my MCEL.
#3644 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> ??MCEL
#3645 [17:46] <nevercast> Minecraft editing library
#3646 [17:46] <nevercast> it's a toolkit
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#3648 [17:46] <Kealper> chat for what?
#3649 [17:46] <aetherian> kealper: did you remember the jalapenos?
#3650 [17:46] <Kealper> seems a bit out of scope for an editor
#3651 [17:46] <nevercast> Kealper, idk yet.. Conversation between modders?
#3652 [17:47] <nevercast> Kealper, some editors go past text highlighting. I've seen some with MSN built in :P
#3653 [17:47] <nevercast> and MP3 players
#3654 [17:47] <Kealper> aetherian: actually i went out there, open the fridge for some cheese, and seen some carmel ice cream topping, so i grabbed that and some ice cream instead
#3655 [17:47] <aetherian> lmao
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#3657 [17:48] <Kealper> meh, seems a bit bloaty, but hey, it's your program lol
#3658 [17:48] <nevercast> Haha, it's not written in Java or VB Kealper.. Bloat isn't going to happen.
#3659 [17:48] * xales points nevercast at query
#3659 [17:48] <aetherian> how good a processor is reccomended for 4-5 player server
#3660 [17:49] <Kealper> i didn't mean making it slow kind of bloat, i just mean it seems like it's out-of-scope for an editor lol
#3661 [17:49] <Kealper> aetherian: what one are you planning on using?
#3662 [17:49] <aetherian> what one?
#3663 [17:49] <nevercast> Kealper, haha well maybe it is.. maybe it will keep me busy and look awesome when it's on everyones computers and everyone is using my program :D
#3664 [17:49] <Kealper> true lol
#3665 [17:50] <Kealper> aetherian: what cpu is in the machine you want to serve on?
#3666 [17:50] <aetherian> uhh...
#3667 [17:50] <nevercast> aetherian: I'd recommend Dual-Core, At least 1.5ghz
#3668 [17:50] <Kealper> this caramel topping sucks, it's getting in my mustache :<
#3669 [17:50] <nevercast> aetherian: or 2.8Ghz single core
#3670 [17:50] <Kealper> or a 2.9ghz dual core
#3671 [17:50] <nevercast> aetherian: that said if you're using a stripped down linux distro
#3672 [17:50] <aetherian> intel core i7-720QM processor, it's quadcore, I'd have to check the gigahertz
#3673 [17:50] <Kealper> a 2.9ghz dual core works nice
#3674 [17:50] <nevercast> aetherian: You could probably get away with a little less.
#3675 [17:51] * xales pokes nevercast
#3675 [17:51] <Kealper> aetherian: that'd be fine
#3676 [17:51] <aetherian> it's 1.6 ghz
#3677 [17:51] <nevercast> Kealper: I can run Minecraft on my laptop ( dual 1.773ghz ) and it doesn't go about 20% cpu and 40% ram
#3678 [17:51] <aetherian> so quad 1.6ghz is fine
#3679 [17:51] <nevercast> s/about/above/
#3680 [17:51] <Kealper> nevercast: i was only saying that because that's what my minecraft server has lol
#3681 [17:51] <nevercast> kealper, haha fair enough.. but yours will handle a little more than 5 players
#3682 [17:51] <nevercast> xales, yes?
#3683 [17:52] * xales points at query window
#3683 [17:52] <Kealper> with 6 gigs of ram and a 2.9ghz dual core i'd hope it could :/
#3684 [17:52] <aetherian> lol2.9ghz
#3685 [17:52] <aetherian> upgrade my man
#3686 [17:52] <aetherian> get 8 gigs of ram
#3687 [17:52] <Kealper> that shit is expensive
#3688 [17:52] <aetherian> cheap bastards
#3689 [17:52] <aetherian> I mean
#3690 [17:52] <aetherian> yeah
#3691 [17:52] <aetherian> it is
#3692 [17:53] <aetherian> :)
#3693 [17:53] <Kealper> and it would be useless, since i could not allocate that to the jvm anyways
#3694 [17:53] <aetherian> wait... why not? (I know nothing about this)
#3695 [17:54] <Kealper> hard limits for how much ram you can allocate to it
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#3697 [17:54] <Kealper> openjdk is something like 4 gigs and sun jvm is something like 1.5
#3698 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> RAM is only expensive if you obtain it from OEMs.
#3699 [17:55] <Kealper> if i try allocating more than about 1600mb of ram it will fail and say could not create the virtual machine :<
#3700 [17:55] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: anything over $20 is expensive for me right now lol
#3701 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: OpenJDK is a DK; the JVM is just the.. VM. Why does this need explaining?
#3702 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> For apples to apples, compare Oracle JDK to OPenJDK
#3703 [17:56] <Kealper> i meant the vm that comes with the openjdk install
#3704 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> what.
#3705 [17:56] <Kealper> shit....idk...stop confuesing me!
#3706 [17:56] * Kealper hides
#3706 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> $ ls -lha /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java
#3707 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 38K 2011-01-28 01:19 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java
#3708 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> 38K < 4GiB
#3709 [17:57] <Kealper> i was talking about hard limits for ram allocation to the vm
#3710 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> Suuure, keep moving the goalposts.
#3711 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> And no, the Sun^WOracle JVM is not limited to 1.5GiB; that's what the -X switches are for
#3712 [17:59] * xales goes afk for dinner
#3712 [17:59] <Kealper> then it must be limited on winblows
#3713 [18:00] * aetherian back
#3713 [18:00] <Kealper> because with 5 gigs of unused ram, it will fail to create the jvm if 2gb is allocated but it works fine on 1.5gb, this same exact limit (something like 1589mb) is on my friend's computer, too :/
#3714 [18:01] <Kealper> just for shits and giggles i'll go try it again
#3715 [18:01] <aetherian> fun
#3716 [18:02] <Kealper> or not....people on the server atm :/
#3717 [18:03] <aetherian> heh
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#3719 [18:05] <Kealper> i love how this ip ( 92.30.112.59 ) was just fucking around in my chat program and made a spammer to bomb the chat with a fuckton of As
#3720 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> that's random.
#3721 [18:08] <Kealper> it was even more random watching that spam of As fly by on my screen
#3722 [18:08] <Kealper> and i get the feeling that nevercast is somehow related to this
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#3727 [18:10] <Jack_> hey
#3728 [18:10] <drezi> i ran malwarebytes
#3729 [18:10] <drezi> and minecraft still wont work
#3730 [18:10] <drezi> with the password
#3731 [18:11] <Kealper> oh, sweet revenge! 02-08 18:10:58 Kealper[Server] IP banned AFFIX (92.30.112.59) from the server.
#3732 [18:12] <Kealper> (i will make no attempt to hide that ip, if he wants to be a script kiddie and do that, he deserves it)
#3733 [18:13] <Jack_> You got a server Kaelper?
#3734 [18:13] <Kealper> that ban log was not for a minecraft server, but yes i have one lol
#3735 [18:13] <Kealper> drezi: i've got no idea why your password keeps changing then :/
#3736 [18:14] <Jack_> :P sorry no idea what minecraft server logs look like :/
#3737 [18:14] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper what was said script kiddie doing? o_O
#3738 [18:14] <Dextl> So I have been having a problem all the way since the Halloween update - Minecraft crashes. It happens regardless of any mods or texture packs, but will happen quicker as the render distance is turned up. I have narrowed it down to my video card - a GTX 285. I have the most current drivers. I've been trying to solve this problem for four months now.
#3739 [18:15] <Kealper> well at first he was appearing to be working on a chat client for my chat server...i'm ok with that...but then it looks as if he thought he would be a wise guy and have it connect, send a ton of As as spam, and then disconnect
#3740 [18:15] <Kealper> greatest thing about that chat server....i have not programmed an unban command yet :o
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#3743 [18:16] <quiggle> Hello.
#3744 [18:16] <exp0> lol
#3745 [18:16] <quiggle> How come the browser-version doesn't load for me?
#3746 [18:16] <quiggle> Or more like; start.
#3747 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> quiggle: what precisely happens?
#3748 [18:17] <quiggle> Nothing happens.
#3749 [18:17] <quiggle> I see a gray box.
#3750 [18:17] <quiggle> Applet is loaded
#3751 [18:17] <Kealper> hmm....weird..have you tried reinstalling Java?
#3752 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> Have you tried reinstalling the binaries?
#3753 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#3754 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> ^ this
#3755 [18:17] <quiggle> It's the browser game, do I need to reinstall?
#3756 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> quiggle: it saves local files.
#3757 [18:18] <SkiingPenguins> :o
#3758 [18:18] <Kealper> dang, dope...ninja'ing me like a boss right now lol
#3759 [18:18] * SkiingPenguins wishes he could play mc portably
#3759 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> Wachow! Kyai!
#3760 [18:19] <quiggle> Where do the biniaries reside?
#3761 [18:19] <SkiingPenguins> depends on the OS
#3762 [18:19] <Elvang> %appdata%/.minecraft/bin for windows
#3763 [18:19] <quiggle> Linux? ;-)
#3764 [18:20] <SkiingPenguins> Elvang: %appdata%/roaming/.minecraft/bin
#3765 [18:20] <Kealper> quiggle: ~/.minecraft/bin
#3766 [18:20] <Elvang> oh yea, for browser
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#3768 [18:20] <Potatosiris> Quick question!
#3769 [18:20] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#3770 [18:20] <Kealper> better than a slow question
#3771 [18:21] <SkiingPenguins> or slow connection ;)
#3772 [18:21] <Potatosiris> Ok, I'm trying to play Minecraft on my Macbook. Was playing fine yesterday, but now it's not working. Checked to make sure Java was enabled and up to date and it was. Trying to do the classic one on the browser.
#3773 [18:21] <quiggle> Still gray. :-(
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#3775 [18:22] <Sir_Deagle> Hello
#3776 [18:22] <quiggle> Get this, it downloads the binaries and then it's all gray. SkiingPenguins Elvang
#3777 [18:23] <Potatosiris> Like, I'm not even getting the "Allow this application to run thing"
#3778 [18:23] <quiggle> Kealper: to
#3779 [18:23] <Elvang> Servers lagging?
#3780 [18:23] <Potatosiris> Possible
#3781 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> Potatosiris: last I heard, Classic was twitcht in general.
#3782 [18:23] <Elvang> Its around the time people start getting out of school...
#3783 [18:23] <Potatosiris> I've never had a problem with it.
#3784 [18:23] <Potatosiris> On any OS or browser.
#3785 [18:23] <Kealper> quiggle: and you have tried reinstalling java?
#3786 [18:24] <SkiingPenguins> Elvang not on the east coast, usa. i get out in june :o
#3787 [18:24] <Potatosiris> I have tried to reinstall java.
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#3789 [18:25] <Potatosiris> Hmm, started working on Safari, but not Firefox. Oh well.
#3790 [18:25] <Potatosiris> Thanks any ways guys. Appreciate it =)
#3791 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#3792 [18:26] <Potatosiris> You too mate.
#3793 [18:26] <quiggle> Interesting, I'll try chrome instead
#3794 [18:26] <SkiingPenguins> i prefer chrome
#3795 [18:27] <Elvang> If all your going to do is play minecraft, you can try Prism.
#3796 [18:27] <quiggle> Ok... interesting enough, the screen is in-fact not gray
#3797 [18:28] <quiggle> it's black
#3798 [18:28] <Kealper> u.u
#3799 [18:28] <quiggle> but becomes gray when I switch between my desktops.
#3800 [18:28] <quiggle> :D
#3801 [18:28] <Kealper> has it ever worked for you before?
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#3804 [18:31] <quiggle> I just bought it.
#3805 [18:31] <quiggle> :D
#3806 [18:32] <Kealper> hmm...what are your computer's specs?
#3807 [18:32] <quiggle> Kinda funny... I couldn't decide if I were to buy it or not, so I let fate decide. I punched in what I thought was my creditcard# and it worked.
#3808 [18:32] <quiggle> I've never actually managed to remember the digits.
#3809 [18:32] <quiggle> :D
#3810 [18:32] <Kealper> :o
#3811 [18:32] <quiggle> A great win for me!
#3812 [18:33] <Kealper> lol
#3813 [18:33] <quiggle> My computer is a Sony Vaio FW31J
#3814 [18:33] <Kealper> wow....decent laptop
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#3816 [18:33] <quiggle> Should be able to run Minecraft?
#3817 [18:33] <Kealper> uhm...what nix distro are you on? safe to assume Ubuntu 10.10?
#3818 [18:34] <Kealper> yes, it should :/
#3819 [18:34] <Sir_Deagle> 1 question about paying. I lurked around forums and found that people have managed to pay the game using Visa-Electron, but then again others say that it doesnt work, so which one is it? :s
#3820 [18:34] <Kealper> Sir_Deagle: depends, any card that supports international payments will work, if you live outside of Sweden
#3821 [18:34] <quiggle> Kealper: Actually I'm running Arch linux.
#3822 [18:35] <quiggle> I think it might be my JVM doing what it likes best.
#3823 [18:35] <quiggle> Not too sure if I'm running the OpenJVM (or whatever it's called), or the Sun.
#3824 [18:35] <Kealper> quiggle: ahh, well then...most users who come here and say they use linux are people who just switched to Ubuntu and don't know what sudo is :/
#3825 [18:36] <Kealper> it should tell you if you crank open a terminal and type java -version
#3826 [18:36] <quiggle> sudo? Who's sudo
#3827 [18:36] <quiggle> ?*
#3828 [18:36] <quiggle> :D
#3829 [18:36] <Kealper> u.u
#3830 [18:36] <quiggle> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=172250&sid=16addccdd8ffd0ebbe9467a0c2084e5c
#3831 [18:36] <SkiingPenguins> my linux friend
#3832 [18:36] <quiggle> seemed a bit relevant
#3833 [18:37] <Pheak> Hello. I'm trying to start up a server: when I connect, either I get a "java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect" error or I get in, but there's no world. I simply fall, then get transported to the top and start to fall again.
#3834 [18:37] <quiggle> (I perrsonally don't use sudo, didn't manage to set it up as I wanted heh)
#3835 [18:37] <quiggle> Shoot, I'm using OpenJDK
#3836 [18:37] <quiggle> Probably because Netbeans needed that.
#3837 [18:37] <Kealper> what version?
#3838 [18:38] <quiggle> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.5) (ArchLinux-6.b20_1.9.5-1-i686) OpenJDK Server VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode)
#3839 [18:38] <quiggle> should be pretty *recent*
#3840 [18:39] <Kealper> hmm....try installing Sun's and see if that makes a difference
#3841 [18:39] <Kealper> ALTERNATIVELY
#3842 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> Pheak: get rid of ZoneAlarm
#3843 [18:39] <Pheak> I don't use ZoneAlarm x:
#3844 [18:39] <Kealper> download the client, and run it through a terminal window
#3845 [18:39] <Kealper> !client
#3846 [18:39] <quiggle> I tried that one
#3847 [18:39] <exp0> ZoneAlarm is nice for finding out whats up.
#3848 [18:40] <quiggle> Oh lol I didn't Kealper
#3849 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> exp0: ZoneAlarm is only nice for fscking up otherwise decent computers.
#3850 [18:40] <quiggle> I forgot that it resided in the Downloads-folder, and not in ~
#3851 [18:40] <quiggle> :D
#3852 [18:40] <quiggle> I'll try it out via cli
#3853 [18:40] <exp0> DopeGhoti: I have used it for while without any issues
#3854 [18:40] <Kealper> it should throw debug stuff into the console if it screws up, that can be used to locate said issue
#3855 [18:42] <quiggle> Kealper: CLI works
#3856 [18:43] <quiggle> Failed to open device (/dev/input/event0): Failed to open device /dev/input/event0 (13) <--- although I'm getting that Kealper
#3857 [18:43] <quiggle> Don't really know what that means though
#3858 [18:43] <Pheak> So regardless of the use of ZoneAlarm, does anyone have an idea what is wrong? I seem to get past the java.net connection time out error, but the world still doesn't generate.
#3859 [18:44] <quiggle> God I love the way my char looks.
#3860 [18:44] <quiggle> Thanks for the help Kealper
#3861 [18:44] <quiggle> :D
#3862 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> Pheak: Does this happen on all servers, or just one?
#3863 [18:46] <Pheak> It happens on those I try to host
#3864 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> Pheak: Are you.. running both the client and the server on the same physical machine?
#3865 [18:47] <Pheak> Yes.
#3866 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> How much RAM has this machine got?
#3867 [18:48] <Pheak> 4GB
#3868 [18:48] <Pheak> DDR2
#3869 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> And what flavor of CPU?
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#3872 [18:52] <Pheak> Intel Core2 Quad CPU, 2.67GHz
#3873 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> hmm, that should be able to handle client/server at the same time
#3874 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> all the same, can you try connecting from another machine?
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#3876 [18:54] <Drawed> Hi
#3877 [18:55] <Drawed> Question, how do I get mods on my server?
#3878 [18:55] <Drawed> I can't figure it out for the life of me
#3879 [18:55] <Drawed> Hello?
#3880 [18:55] <Elvang> The mods should have instructions in their threads if they are server capable
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#3882 [18:55] <Drawed> With hMod, it says to add plugins to server.properties and I can't find that
#3883 [18:56] <Pheak> A mate is connecting to the server now. Would this suffice?
#3884 [18:57] <Drawed> Huh?
#3885 [18:57] <xales> Drawed: I'd reccomend not using hmod, it is no longer being developed
#3886 [18:57] <xales> Look at Bukkit as an alternative
#3887 [18:57] <Drawed> Ok
#3888 [18:58] <Ruggsy> xales
#3889 [18:58] <Ruggsy> if i made a map now on Single player
#3890 [18:58] <xales> ?
#3891 [18:58] <Ruggsy> can i then put that as my server map?
#3892 [18:58] <zhasha> Every 5-10 seconds or so Minecraft will brutally violate my Athlon 64 X2 (3GHz) CPU causing about 5-10 seconds of excruciating agony of 1 or 2 FPS. Basically it puts both cores under full load every so often
#3893 [18:58] <xales> yes
#3894 [18:58] <Ruggsy> cool
#3895 [18:58] <xales> zhasha: Any mods?
#3896 [18:58] <zhasha> vanilla
#3897 [18:58] <Elvang> Try optimine/mcregion?
#3898 [18:59] <Elvang> Render distance to tiny, fast draw?
#3899 [18:59] <zhasha> doesn't make a difference
#3900 [18:59] <xales> no..I have a more or identical CPU, and it works fine
#3901 [18:59] <Kealper> graphics card?
#3902 [18:59] <zhasha> nVIDIA GTX260
#3903 [18:59] <xales> I have an inferior card, so >.>
#3904 [18:59] <Kealper> hmm...
#3905 [18:59] <zhasha> the game runs beautifully on all settings, it just tries to off my CPU every 5-10 seconds
#3906 [18:59] <xales> oh, actually...
#3907 [18:59] <xales> 2 things
#3908 [19:00] <zhasha> there's no abnormal chunk loading, or increased temps
#3909 [19:00] <xales> A: antivirus. disable any and all.
#3910 [19:00] <xales> B: hard disk benchmark test. make sure its working fine
#3911 [19:00] <zhasha> machine currently runs vanilla Ubuntu 10.10
#3912 [19:00] <zhasha> and there's no disk IO while this happens
#3913 [19:00] <xales> using the sun JVM?
#3914 [19:00] <xales> or openjdk?
#3915 [19:00] <zhasha> on Windows I did
#3916 [19:00] <zhasha> IcedTea6 on Ubuntu
#3917 [19:00] <zhasha> same problem persists
#3918 [19:00] <xales> use sun
#3919 [19:01] <zhasha> it didn't make a difference last time
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#3921 [19:02] <esper_xseuac> Is minecraft.net etc down?
#3922 [19:02] <esper_xseuac> i havent been able to connect to any of the minecraft sites or the game for days
#3923 [19:02] <xales> works fine for me
#3924 [19:02] <zhasha> yeah, it always Works For Me™
#3925 [19:03] <esper_xseuac> what the fuck... how do I fix this?
#3926 [19:03] <xales> Windows?
#3927 [19:03] <esper_xseuac> windows 7 64bit
#3928 [19:03] <xales> Open the start menu, in the search bar type cmd and hit enter
#3929 [19:03] <esper_xseuac> i cant connect to the game, or any of the minecraft sites
#3930 [19:04] <xales> in the box that comes up, type ping minecraft.net
#3931 [19:04] <xales> and hit enter
#3932 [19:04] <zhasha> xales: is there any equivalent to iotop on Windows?
#3933 [19:04] <esper_xseuac> request timed out
#3934 [19:04] <xales> zhasha: just 'top'
#3935 [19:04] <xales> should be enough
#3936 [19:04] <xales> esper_xseuac: the first line, should look something like 'Pinging minecraft.net [50.16.203.217] with 32 bytes of data:'
#3937 [19:04] <xales> what are the numbers it has?
#3938 [19:05] <xales> (like 50.16.203.217)
#3939 [19:05] <zhasha> xales: iotop shows per-process disk io
#3940 [19:05] <esper_xseuac> 99.198.121.104
#3941 [19:05] <xales> zhasha: use 'vmstat'
#3942 [19:06] <zhasha> xales: I asked about Windows...
#3943 [19:06] <xales> oh
#3944 [19:06] <xales> I thought you said...nevermind
#3945 [19:06] <xales> esper_xseuac: You've been trying to play a pirated/illegal copy of Minecraft, correct?
#3946 [19:06] <xales> zhasha: Process Explorer
#3947 [19:06] <esper_xseuac> fuck no, I payed my $15 for this game lefit
#3948 [19:06] <esper_xseuac> legit*
#3949 [19:07] <xales> esper_xseuac: mind telling me your username then?
#3950 [19:07] <esper_xseuac> fatalpop
#3951 [19:07] <xales> gah..the fucking website is down so I can't even check
#3952 [19:07] <xales> anyway
#3953 [19:08] <xales> go to Computer -> C: -> Windows -> System32 -> drivers -> etc
#3954 [19:08] <xales> in that folder is a file called 'hosts'
#3955 [19:08] <xales> open that
#3956 [19:08] <xales> with Notepad
#3957 [19:08] <xales> copy the contents of it, and paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click submit. Then, paste here the link it sends you to
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#3959 [19:09] <esper_xseuac> http://pastebin.com/C1eeM3Xm
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#3961 [19:10] <xales> esper_xseuac: That kinda tells me that you have at some point played a pirated version
#3962 [19:10] <esper_xseuac> I never have bro
#3963 [19:10] <xales> aparrantly you did
#3964 [19:11] <esper_xseuac> I got the game like 2 weeks ago and could play it fine
#3965 [19:11] <xales> the file doesn't tell lies
#3966 [19:11] <esper_xseuac> ive used hacks and thats it
#3967 [19:11] <esper_xseuac> ive never used a pirated version
#3968 [19:11] <Shadow386> hacks count as pirated
#3969 [19:11] <Elvang> What?
#3970 [19:11] <Shadow386> well
#3971 [19:11] <xales> hacks = pirated
#3972 [19:11] <esper_xseuac> how are hacks a pirated version? i bought the game? i used a real account
#3973 [19:11] <Shadow386> yeah
#3974 [19:12] <Shadow386> what hacks?
#3975 [19:12] <esper_xseuac> probably the one everybodys heard about
#3976 [19:12] <esper_xseuac> MCCheat
#3977 [19:12] <Shadow386> gay
#3978 [19:12] <esper_xseuac> not to grief though
#3979 [19:12] <esper_xseuac> but how do i fix the connection problem
#3980 [19:12] <Shadow386> xales what file?
#3981 [19:13] <esper_xseuac> http://pastebin.com/C1eeM3Xm
#3982 [19:13] <xales> Shadow386: Look at his hosts file.
#3983 [19:13] <xales> http://pastebin.com/C1eeM3Xm
#3984 [19:13] <esper_xseuac> Idk how I can prove that I never used the pirated version of the game
#3985 [19:14] <xales> one sec
#3986 [19:14] <Shadow386> er
#3987 [19:14] <Shadow386> dude
#3988 [19:14] <Shadow386> why do you have that IP set?
#3989 [19:15] <esper_xseuac> idk, i didn't do anything
#3990 [19:15] <xales> you did, actually
#3991 [19:15] <xales> the 'hacks' violate the game ToS and wouldn't be usable if they didn't function in the same way as a pirated copy
#3992 [19:15] <zhasha> esper_xseuac: all those entries starting with 99.198.121.104 are local DNS overrides, so when you try to look up say "minecraft.net", Windows will resolve it to 99.198.121.104 instead of 50.16.203.217, as the entire network of DNS servers out there would resolve it to
#3993 [19:16] <Shadow386> okay, if you didnt do anything and the hosts file is liek that, it is the hack that WILL steal your password if you log into minecraft.net or anything similar to that
#3994 [19:16] <esper_xseuac> oh
#3995 [19:16] <Shadow386> remove those lines that redirect to that IP and you will be fine, but that proves you've used a hack and someone is duplicating minecraft's database of users
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#3998 [19:17] <esper_xseuac> I could give you the link to the youtube video download
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#4000 [19:17] <esper_xseuac> I delete from the first 99.198.121.104 minecraft.net all the way down?
#4001 [19:17] <Shadow386> link us to the video
#4002 [19:17] <Shadow386> yes
#4003 [19:17] <esper_xseuac> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vd9tX7Qivk
#4004 [19:17] <Shadow386> save the file to your desktop and copy into that folder
#4005 [19:18] <zhasha> oh, and all the lines ending in .adobe.com also tell a story about either Photoshop or the entire CS suite
#4006 [19:18] <zhasha> might want to keep that to yourself from now on
#4007 [19:19] <Shadow386> zhasha i would admit I've downloaded the entire CS5 suite before :P
#4008 [19:19] <Shadow386> but MCCheat is dead and cannot be restored.
#4009 [19:19] <Shadow386> What you used is a hacking tool that MAY work, but will also steal passwords
#4010 [19:19] <zhasha> I have a feeling that even with Windows XP firmly planted on my PC, I wouldn't be able to run that resource hog of a suite
#4011 [19:19] <Shadow386> especially since it forwards everything to that IP
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#4013 [19:20] <zhasha> 1GB of RAM doesn't get you far with "modern" software
#4014 [19:20] <esper_xseuac> I deleted that stuff from the hosts file
#4015 [19:20] <Shadow386> yeahh
#4016 [19:20] <esper_xseuac> and minecraft.net gives me a white screen now
#4017 [19:20] <Shadow386> alright
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#4019 [19:20] <xales> esper_xseuac: minecraft.net is actually having issues
#4020 [19:20] <xales> just gotta wait :P
#4021 [19:20] <zhasha> close your browser and reopen. chromium at least keeps a local cache which is really god damn annoying sometimes
#4022 [19:21] <Shadow386> it can be, but helpful at other times
#4023 [19:21] <esper_xseuac> ok its working now, thanks
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#4025 [19:23] <Shadow386> ill be taking the Jar and looking through the code to double check the host changing
#4026 [19:24] <Shadow386> no wait, it's an exe
#4027 [19:24] <zhasha> Shadow386: just extract the strings and see if something looks suspicious
#4028 [19:24] <Shadow386> looking now for my tool
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#4030 [19:24] <zhasha> or if it's .NET, decompile it
#4031 [19:25] <Dortan> any issue with minecraft.net right now ?
#4032 [19:25] <Shadow386> I need to find a .net decompiler :s
#4033 [19:26] <zhasha> http://www.red-gate.com/products/dotnet-development/reflector/
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#4035 [19:31] <Shadow386> do do de dooo
#4036 [19:32] <zhasha> Shadow386: decompiling .NET?
#4037 [19:32] <Shadow386> actually looking through the files now
#4038 [19:33] <Shadow386> I need to get some new socks.
#4039 [19:35] <Shadow386> I cant find anything at the moment
#4040 [19:35] <Shadow386> lemme try a few things
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#4042 [19:37] <Shadow386> I've confirmed that the IP is owned by SingleHop btw
#4043 [19:37] <aetherian> hmmmmm
#4044 [19:38] <aetherian> if that's that, and that's that, then that's that.
#4045 [19:38] <aetherian> it all come together now
#4046 [19:41] <zhasha> Shadow386: congrats, nslookup or whois could have told you that :P
#4047 [19:41] <Shadow386> thats what I did xD
#4048 [19:42] <zhasha> I can also tell you that the IP currently points to nowhere
#4049 [19:42] <Shadow386> damn. cant remember the name of the tool i used to tear about exes to find strings before :x
#4050 [19:43] <zhasha> ndisasm can't do it?
#4051 [19:43] <Shadow386> ndisasm?
#4052 [19:43] <zhasha> or whatever the disassembler part of nasm is called
#4053 [19:43] <Shadow386> oh it disassembled, but its not showing strings
#4054 [19:44] <zhasha> http://www.heaventools.com/overview.htm I bet this can do it
#4055 [19:45] <zhasha> but I don't think .NET executables are like conventional PE files
#4056 [19:45] <Shadow386> yeah, no
#4057 [19:45] <Shadow386> $129.99? brb torrenting.
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#4059 [19:51] <Shadow386> hah
#4060 [19:51] <Shadow386> i just tried starting it up instead
#4061 [19:51] <Shadow386> used user: notch pass: lololol
#4062 [19:51] <Shadow386> error popped up
#4063 [19:51] <Shadow386> System.UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the path 'C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts' is denied.
#4064 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: what the frell are you doing and why is it relevant to #MineCraftHelp?
#4065 [19:53] <Shadow386> someone is spreading out MCCheat, a fake, that steals Minecraft.net users passwords, and changes the hosts file to allow minecraft.net to forward to an external IP, to STEAL usernames and IPs
#4066 [19:53] <Shadow386> pretty sure the safety of minecraft users is relavent to #MinecraftHelp :3
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#4068 [19:54] <xales> DopeGhoti: If you see this, http://pastebin.com/C1eeM3Xm, it's an indication of that
#4069 [19:54] <Shadow386> the youtube video has already been flagged
#4070 [19:54] * xales is only intermittently here >.> if your bugging Dope though, Shadow, take it to query or a different channel
#4070 [19:55] <Elvang> You guys forgot to tell esper_xseuac to change his password :)
#4071 [19:55] <Shadow386> good idea
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#4075 [19:57] <Elvang> So if I setup a huge booster, and use it to send a minecart of a ramp, will it react as you'd expect or just fall right away?
#4076 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: sorry, I've only had intermittent time to read a couple screensful at a time, and it was looking like you were talkinga bout _making_ such a program.
#4077 [19:57] <aetherian> xale: you're, not your
#4078 [19:57] <Shadow386> oh hell nawh
#4079 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: a minecart falling off of a track loses all momentum
#4080 [19:57] <Elvang> Aw :(
#4081 [19:57] <Shadow386> I'm not that type of person. seriously. people like that pisses me off. =/
#4082 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: straight down it goes; no epic jumps, sadly
#4083 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: me too, hence my stern tone.
#4084 [19:58] <aetherian> too bad, too.
#4085 [19:58] <morton> anyone else having problems with authentication?
#4086 [19:58] <aetherian> although it is useful for long safe drops
#4087 [19:58] <Elvang> I suppose jumps could be made by making the cart push a boat thats floating on a parallel river...
#4088 [19:58] <Shadow386> uh, DopeGhoti, should I show you this video someone did to shoot animals and players out of inside minecarts? xD
#4089 [19:58] <Kealper> o.o
#4090 [19:58] <relsqui> Elvang: thanks for asking that, I've been meaning to try it myself XD
#4091 [19:59] <relsqui> you could still put a *drop* in a minecart track, though, couldn't you?
#4092 [19:59] <relsqui> have it run off a cliff, as long as it landed on a sloped track so it could gain momentum to continue?
#4093 [19:59] <aetherian> yeah...
#4094 [19:59] <morton> I'm getting 503 errors on the joinserver.jsp page
#4095 [19:59] <aetherian> yes
#4096 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: yes, and have another sloped trach catch it
#4097 [19:59] <Elvang> Yea, I think one of the booster designs makes use of a drop
#4098 [19:59] <relsqui> that would be fun for a ride
#4099 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: I do this, in fact, in one of my minecart terminals
#4100 [19:59] <relsqui> cool :)
#4101 [19:59] <Shadow386> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1ASj4D1zWU
#4102 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: on my server, we call them "Indy Drops"
#4103 [19:59] <relsqui> haha. I'll bite. why?
#4104 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: CY;AW
#4105 [19:59] <Shadow386> ?
#4106 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: as in Indiana Jones?
#4107 [20:00] <relsqui> gotcha
#4108 [20:00] <Elvang> lmao
#4109 [20:00] <Elvang> Nice video
#4110 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: Can't Youtube; At Work
#4111 [20:00] <Shadow386> ahh
#4112 [20:00] <Shadow386> ok
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#4114 [20:00] <Shadow386> lol
#4115 [20:00] * AuBot kicked Shadow386 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
#4116 [20:00] * relsqui snerks
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#4117 [20:00] <Shadow386> wat
#4118 [20:00] <relsqui> message rate
#4119 [20:00] <Shadow386> ohhh. oops :x
#4120 [20:01] <aetherian> lol
#4121 [20:01] <aetherian> win
#4122 [20:01] <aetherian> it happens
#4123 [20:02] <aetherian> (to me a lot, but mainly on purpose)
#4124 [20:02] <Elvang> Damn, I need to try out that animal launcher. See if I can't survive one of those launches xD
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#4126 [20:04] <aetherian> bloody wire
#4127 [20:04] <aetherian> gotta buy a new one
#4128 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> just crimp your own. Cheaper.
#4129 [20:05] <aetherian> how much do the heads cost
#4130 [20:06] <Shadow386> So uh, contacted the SingleHop staff about the abuse of their server. Hope they do something about it.
#4131 [20:07] <Shadow386> anywho, to serious business
#4132 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: um, about US$5 for a bag of 50?
#4133 [20:07] <Ronjoe> wow, AuBot's spam banning is rather... strict...
#4134 [20:07] <aetherian> dopeghoti: that's... a lot of heads
#4135 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Ronjoe: and yet people seem to be getting trained.
#4136 [20:08] <aetherian> and no it isn't
#4137 [20:08] <aetherian> it's 3+ messages in 2000 ms
#4138 [20:08] <aetherian> and 5 second kickban4u
#4139 [20:08] <aetherian> for
#4140 [20:09] <aetherian> ack
#4141 [20:09] <aetherian> for example, something I like to do is
#4142 [20:09] <aetherian> good
#4143 [20:09] <aetherian> bye
#4144 [20:09] <aetherian> now
#4145 [20:09] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
#4146 [20:09] <Shadow386> lol
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#4148 [20:09] <aetherian> and yet, I can still say
#4149 [20:09] <aetherian> good
#4150 [20:09] <aetherian> bye
#4151 [20:09] <aetherian> now
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#4153 [20:09] <aetherian> I say it needs to be stricter
#4154 [20:09] <Primis> yo
#4155 [20:10] <Shadow386> oy
#4156 [20:10] <aetherian> 10
#4157 [20:10] <Shadow386> ho
#4158 [20:10] <aetherian> oh?
#4159 [20:10] <Primis> i cant tell if its the server I'm connecting to, my client or mc, but is anyone else having loggin in timeouts when connecting?
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#4161 [20:12] <Shadow386> yes, minecraft.net is having issues
#4162 [20:12] <aetherian> !isdown minecraft.net
#4163 [20:12] <Shadow386> !check minecraft.net
#4164 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> 'twas a-he, Mario!
#4165 [20:12] <aetherian> that's not the right command, then...
#4166 [20:13] <aetherian> !isdown
#4167 [20:13] <aetherian> !help
#4168 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> !check www.minecraft.net:80
#4169 [20:13] <aetherian> !kick aetherian
#4170 [20:13] <aetherian> ;p
#4171 [20:13] <Shadow386> like this?
#4172 [20:13] <Shadow386> !kick shadow386
#4173 [20:13] * AuBot kicked Shadow386 from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you stay here. (Issued by Shadow386 with reason: None given.))
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#4175 [20:13] <Shadow386> lololol
#4176 [20:13] <aetherian> lool
#4177 [20:14] <aetherian> I can make him ban me, if I wanted
#4178 [20:14] <aetherian> well
#4179 [20:14] <aetherian> tempban
#4180 [20:14] <Shadow386> for 5 seconds
#4181 [20:14] <aetherian> 5 seconds
#4182 [20:14] <Jakob> !kick Jakob
#4183 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> "laugh out loud out loud out loud"? You in an echo chamber, Shadow386?
#4184 [20:14] <Jakob> lol
#4185 [20:14] <Shadow386> I can prob have him ban you, but Im not trying
#4186 [20:14] <Jakob> lol
#4187 [20:14] <Jakob> wtf
#4188 [20:14] <Shadow386> DopeGhoti only in my mind.
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#4192 [20:16] <Shadow386> what happened that time?
#4193 [20:17] * xales points to ChanServ
#4193 [20:17] <Shadow386> oh chanserv you
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#4195 [20:18] <xales> Shadow386: You should come see #help
#4196 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, aaronify
#4197 [20:19] <aaronify> yo
#4198 [20:19] <aaronify> is there an issue with minecraft right now? I haven't been able to connect to my server all day
#4199 [20:20] <Shadow386> xales, add to the topic http://isminecraftdown.net
#4200 [20:20] <Shadow386> :D
#4201 [20:20] <Shadow386> oh nvm, it always shows
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#4203 [20:20] <aaronify> already checked that and it seems to always say it's fine even when there are issues
#4204 [20:20] <xales> .vprotect
#4205 [20:20] <MCHelpBot> Enabling voice protection
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#4208 [20:20] <xales> .help
#4209 [20:20] <xales> .mode xales +o
#4210 [20:20] <xales> >.>
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#4214 [20:21] <aetherian> fake miclee?
#4215 [20:21] <aaronify> nobody else is having issues?
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#4217 [20:21] <aetherian> g2g
#4218 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> ciao
#4219 [20:22] <Gregor> On what aaronify?
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#4221 [20:22] <aaronify> I'm only able to connect to my server sporatically
#4222 [20:23] <aaronify> and keep getting "cannot connect to minecraft" but not all the time
#4223 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> aaronify: I hear tell that minecraft.net has indeed gone squirrely again
#4224 [20:23] <aaronify> oh ok. I wish that isminecraftdown.net would reflect that once in a while =/
#4225 [20:23] <relsqui> heh
#4226 [20:24] <Kealper> it lies now that minecraft.net set up differently :/
#4227 [20:24] <relsqui> is this a "try again in a few minutes" error or a "keep trying until it works" sort of error?
#4228 [20:24] <relsqui> the second one apparently
#4229 [20:24] <Shadow386> how has it been changed?
#4230 [20:24] <aaronify> oh! ok... that makes a lot of sense
#4231 [20:24] * relsqui just got in
#4231 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> the thing is, minecraft.net isn't simply up or down. It's more of a Schroedinger's Site kind of deal
#4232 [20:24] <Shadow386> !check minecraft.net
#4233 [20:24] <aaronify> lol
#4234 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> you won't know whether it's up or down until you try
#4235 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: there is no minecraft server at minecraft.net.
#4236 [20:24] <aaronify> boo amazon
#4237 [20:25] <Shadow386> forgot about that >_>;;
#4238 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: the !check utility is used for checking MC servers; not sites.
#4239 [20:25] <Shadow386> it checks port 25565 automatically?
#4240 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#4241 [20:25] <Shadow386> ah ok
#4242 [20:28] <relsqui> do flowers spawn on a chunk at any time after that chunk is generated?
#4243 [20:28] <xales> !check minecraft.net:80
#4244 [20:28] <xales> :)
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#4246 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: Presently, there is no way to cultivate flowers. Hopefully with time, that will change and MC will become even _more_ like Animal Crossing (:
#4247 [20:29] <relsqui> XD
#4248 [20:29] <relsqui> <3 animal crossing
#4249 [20:30] <relsqui> I know there's no way to cultivate them; but I wasn't sure what "spawn" means in this context
#4250 [20:30] <relsqui> animals "spawn" periodically
#4251 [20:30] <relsqui> but terrain only spawns once
#4252 [20:30] <relsqui> so I don't know if flowers appear sometimes or just are created with the world and only diminish as they are destroyed
#4253 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> Flowers are terrain, not mobs or items, so I don't think they will self-generate.
#4254 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> I could be wrong
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#4261 [20:41] <Jackson413> hey all
#4262 [20:41] <xales> hello
#4263 [20:41] <Jackson413> has anyone used the plugin CraftIRC can they pm me
#4264 [20:42] <Jackson413> since this channel isnt for plugins and all
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#4266 [20:42] <xales> Shadow, l2/nick
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#4268 [20:42] <xales> also /nickserv link shadow386_
#4269 [20:42] <xales> :P
#4270 [20:42] <SFX_Acidic> hey all
#4271 [20:42] <xales> hello
#4272 [20:42] <sivik> is minecraft down?
#4273 [20:42] <sivik> ping minecraft.net fails
#4274 [20:42] <xales> it always fails
#4275 [20:42] <SFX_Acidic> My friend is running a server on his computer
#4276 [20:42] <Shadow386> xales
#4277 [20:42] <xales> but yes, it is
#4278 [20:42] <Shadow386> an op in #minecraft got smart
#4279 [20:43] <Kealper> nowai
#4280 [20:43] <Shadow386> no wait, you did it
#4281 [20:43] <Shadow386> do it here too
#4282 [20:43] <xales> what?
#4283 [20:43] <SFX_Acidic> I'm setting the server up. When I connect to his IP it's giving me connection timed out: connect or something like that
#4284 [20:43] <Shadow386> Yes, minecraft.net is currently unstable and may be down
#4285 [20:43] <SFX_Acidic> How do I fix that
#4286 [20:43] <xales> SFX_Acidic: Did he port-forward?
#4287 [20:43] <SFX_Acidic> I'm doing that myself
#4288 [20:43] <SFX_Acidic> so yes
#4289 [20:43] <Jackson413> sfx have you forwarded the ports?
#4290 [20:43] <Jackson413> well that is your problem
#4291 [20:43] <Jackson413> because he has to do it
#4292 [20:43] <xales> He has to port-forward
#4293 [20:43] <xales> not you
#4294 [20:43] <Jackson413> wherever the server is
#4295 [20:43] <Jackson413> and also
#4296 [20:43] <Shadow386> and xales, I did /nick but sometimes it doesnt work for me :<
#4297 [20:43] <Jackson413> what is the ip
#4298 [20:43] <SFX_Acidic> No I'm doing that forhim through his router
#4299 [20:44] <xales> Shadow386: you have to be identified or otherwise not in #minecraft
#4300 [20:44] <Jackson413> ok
#4301 [20:44] <SFX_Acidic> I have the computer smarts he doesn't lol
#4302 [20:44] <Jackson413> what is the ip
#4303 [20:44] <SFX_Acidic> 192.168.1.18
#4304 [20:44] <Jackson413> that is your problem
#4305 [20:44] <Shadow386> i do it in the server window
#4306 [20:44] <Shadow386> >_>
#4307 [20:44] <Jackson413> that is the routers ip
#4308 [20:44] <xales> doesn't matter, Shadow
#4309 [20:44] <Jackson413> for the comp
#4310 [20:44] <xales> you have to be identified
#4311 [20:44] <xales> or you can't change nick
#4312 [20:44] <Shadow386> xales I will rape your face D:<
#4313 [20:44] <xales> while in #minecraft
#4314 [20:44] <SFX_Acidic> lol
#4315 [20:44] <Jackson413> http://www.whatismyip.com
#4316 [20:44] <Shadow386> that's quite gay honestly.
#4317 [20:44] <xales> not really
#4318 [20:44] <Jackson413> you need to determine his
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#4320 [20:44] <sivik> Would there be any reason why people can connect remotely to my mc server but I cannot on the local network?
#4321 [20:44] <Kealper> keeps the nubs on their toes
#4322 [20:44] <xales> because then the noobtards would talk by changing name
#4323 [20:44] <Jackson413> and if you get that you will not fail
#4324 [20:44] <Jackson413> ok?
#4325 [20:44] <Shadow386> SFX_Acidic tell him to go to whatismyip.com
#4326 [20:45] <xales> sivik: Just use the loopback IP (127.0.0.1)
#4327 [20:45] <Shadow386> oh wiat, i didnt see that
#4328 [20:45] <Jackson413> dammit shadow i just sed tht
#4329 [20:45] <sivik> Its not the same server xales
#4330 [20:45] <Jackson413> :D
#4331 [20:45] <sivik> Its on a different computer on my local computer
#4332 [20:45] <sivik> local network not local computer
#4333 [20:45] <xales> Shadow386: if you link your other nick, you can use identify to your main name while your nick is the other one
#4334 [20:45] <SFX_Acidic> 173.17.32.240
#4335 [20:45] <xales> sivik: use the local address then
#4336 [20:45] <Shadow386> yeah yeah :P
#4337 [20:45] <Shadow386> forgot
#4338 [20:45] <Jackson413> no no
#4339 [20:45] <sivik> I do but it times out
#4340 [20:45] <SFX_Acidic> That's what his IP pings on whatismyip.com
#4341 [20:45] <sivik> But it works fine from the remote locations.
#4342 [20:45] <Shadow386> !check 173.17.32.240
#4343 [20:45] <Jackson413> sfk he need to tell you HIS result
#4344 [20:45] <sivik> !check stronghall.dyndns.og
#4345 [20:46] <Jackson413> !check youporn.com
#4346 [20:46] <xales> !disable
#4347 [20:46] <xales> ._.
#4348 [20:46] <xales> don't play with it
#4349 [20:46] <Jackson413> lmfao
#4350 [20:46] <xales> last warning
#4351 [20:46] <xales> again = ban
#4352 [20:46] <SFX_Acidic> When I type 173.17.32.240 into multiplayer I get error 50
#4353 [20:46] <SFX_Acidic> 503*
#4354 [20:46] <Shadow386> I was using it to check that :<
#4355 [20:46] <xales> that's because minecraft is down
#4356 [20:46] <xales> Shadow386: ask Kealper to add you as an 'owner' for that module
#4357 [20:46] <SFX_Acidic> oh
#4358 [20:46] <Shadow386> 503 is internal server error which means amazon is messing with minecraft.net
#4359 [20:46] <Shadow386> I think I am, one sec
#4360 [20:46] <Shadow386> !check 173.17.32.240
#4361 [20:46] <Shadow386> yep
#4362 [20:47] <xales> Kealper
#4363 [20:47] <SFX_Acidic> Oh so all MP servers = down
#4364 [20:47] <xales> how 2 change user mode
#4365 [20:47] <Shadow386> since AuBot is in two of my channels
#4366 [20:47] <Kealper> user mode of?
#4367 [20:47] <SFX_Acidic> Including what I'm trying to get working
#4368 [20:47] <xales> Kealper: aubot user
#4369 [20:47] <Kealper> oh, for that module?
#4370 [20:47] <xales> bot
#4371 [20:47] <xales> I think
#4372 [20:47] <Kealper> you can't, that is all hard coded
#4373 [20:47] <Shadow386> pretty much SFX_Acidic
#4374 [20:47] <xales> the one that auto-op/voice
#4375 [20:47] <Kealper> oh
#4376 [20:47] <Kealper> that
#4377 [20:47] <Kealper> .set mode user +/-mode
#4378 [20:47] <Shadow386> Im using Pircbot to do the bot from my dedicated server at the moment
#4379 [20:47] <Jackson413> hey guys
#4380 [20:47] <xales> .set mode Shadow386 +v
#4381 [20:47] <xales> ?
#4382 [20:48] <Kealper> that
#4383 [20:48] <xales> .set mode xales +o
#4384 [20:48] <xales> it wasn't autoopping me here
#4385 [20:48] <Jackson413> is anyone familiar with craftirc?
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#4388 [20:48] <xales> :)
#4389 [20:48] <Jackson413> is anyone familiar with craftirc?
#4390 [20:48] <xales> anyway
#4391 [20:48] <Shadow386> Jackson413 no mod talk here :P
#4392 [20:48] <Shadow386> but I use it on my server.
#4393 [20:48] <Shadow386> er
#4394 [20:48] <xales> Jackson413: Please don't keep asking, you've been told several times
#4395 [20:48] <Jackson413> pm mwah
#4396 [20:48] <Jackson413> plz
#4397 [20:48] <Shadow386> nope
#4398 [20:48] <Shadow386> :D
#4399 [20:48] <Jakob> .motd
#4400 [20:48] <Jakob> !motd
#4401 [20:48] <xales> !enable
#4402 [20:49] <Jakob> http://mchelp.darksigns.net/rules.html
#4403 [20:49] <xales> anyway
#4404 [20:49] * xales back to afk!
#4404 [20:49] <Jakob> - Modding is not supported - it is too difficult to diagnose the many issues with mods. You can ask to be forwarded to a place for support with mods.
#4405 [20:50] <Kealper> so...on that mote
#4406 [20:50] <Kealper> note
#4407 [20:50] <Kealper> #bukkit
#4408 [20:50] <Jakob> exactly
#4409 [20:50] <Jakob> Also
#4410 [20:50] <Jakob> on that note.. I am banned from #bukkit >:|
#4411 [20:50] <Jakob> for no reason
#4412 [20:50] <Jakob> this is the second time
#4413 [20:50] <Kealper> lol
#4414 [20:50] <Jakob> lol
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#4416 [20:51] <relsqui> I'm sure it's for no reason at all >_>
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#4418 [20:51] <Kealper> what is #obsidian? lol
#4419 [20:51] <Jakob> what?
#4420 [20:51] <sivik> what would cause the mc server to not connect locally on the network but fine outside
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#4422 [20:52] <Jakob> it's a channel owned by SDX
#4423 [20:52] <Kealper> wait a tick...i might know this one!
#4424 [20:52] <Kealper> sivik: you are using the computer's lan ip to connect, right?
#4425 [20:52] <sivik> Kealper, not the same computer
#4426 [20:52] <sivik> Yes, i'm using the local network IP
#4427 [20:52] <sivik> As its not working from the remote IP either.
#4428 [20:52] <Kealper> is server-ip blank in the config?
#4429 [20:53] <Kealper> oh....hmm...that's weird
#4430 [20:53] <Kealper> nvm, i don't know this one
#4431 [20:53] <DevilBlade> some times firewalls will block local traffic on ports
#4432 [20:53] <Jakob> sivik what isp are you with?
#4433 [20:53] <sivik> Verizon.
#4434 [20:53] <Jakob> verizon
#4435 [20:53] <Jakob> okay
#4436 [20:53] <sivik> It works fine remotely
#4437 [20:53] <sivik> Thats not the issue
#4438 [20:53] <sivik> Just not locally all the time
#4439 [20:53] <sivik> Sometimes it works, sometimes it times out
#4440 [20:53] <Jakob> you might be a router, behind a router.
#4441 [20:53] <Jakob> oh nevermind.
#4442 [20:54] <Kealper> could your router just be retarded?
#4443 [20:54] <DevilBlade> are you using a laptop as the computer connecting to the server
#4444 [20:54] <sivik> DevilBlade, no, its all wired
#4445 [20:54] <sivik> Two pcs and a small serverish box which MC is installed on.
#4446 [20:55] <sivik> 192.168.1.6 is the local IP for the MC server
#4447 [20:55] <sivik> 192.168.1.2 is my box.
#4448 [20:55] <sivik> Sometimes it works but then it will not the next time and then if I wait an hour or something it will once again work
#4449 [20:55] <sivik> Very confusing
#4450 [20:56] <Kealper> sounds like something is up with either your computer or your router :/
#4451 [20:56] <DevilBlade> when its not letting you connect to the server on the computer is the internet working?
#4452 [20:56] <sivik> DevilBlade, yes.
#4453 [20:56] <Kealper> and i'm more leaning towards the router
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#4456 [21:05] <Shadow386> firewalls perhaps?
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#4458 [21:06] <relsqui> this is off-topic but I am kind of pleased with my pictorial representation of my server's train network >_> http://img.chiliahedron.com/spazzymap.png
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#4460 [21:07] <relsqui> I think the symbols are pretty good summaries, enough to jog your memory if you've seen the real places
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#4465 [21:11] <mr_sticky> its up
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#4468 [21:13] <ArmEagle> blegh.. finally finished this design of a 50x50x3 mob factory.. and now in the last bits before the lava knife the mobs walk on water.. :)
#4469 [21:14] <ArmEagle> forgot to remove 2 more blocks i guess :)
#4470 [21:14] <Jackson413> that sounds amazing lol
#4471 [21:14] <Jackson413> craftbook?
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#4473 [21:15] <Jackson413> hey guys im looking for a console command to restart the server
#4474 [21:15] <Jackson413> is there such a thing
#4475 [21:17] <ArmEagle> no, just plain stuff.
#4476 [21:18] <ArmEagle> but the climbing spiders mess it up
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#4486 [21:31] <rhoward999> i just started playing minecraft and just bought it when i go to play online in a free build it says my rank isnt high enough, so how do i gain rank?
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#4489 [21:34] <BIGBOSS> Hi I need help with my minecraft account can somebody give me a hand?
#4490 [21:35] <Owner> hey, i just bought minecraft beta, and i have an account. I downlaoded the game, and i can open it, but whenever i click one of the buttons in the menu (single play, multiplayer, options, etc) it kicks me out and gives me a note-pad note on a java error... i just downloaded the newet version of java and it still wont work.
#4491 [21:35] <Owner> can someone help me?
#4492 [21:35] <BIGBOSS> I need help too T_T
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#4494 [21:36] <V2> Cannot send to channel: #minecraft pops up when I try to say anything in #minecraft.
#4495 [21:36] <V2> Do they mute mibbit?
#4496 [21:36] <Owner> #helps
#4497 [21:36] <Owner> #help
#4498 [21:37] <BIGBOSS> #help
#4499 [21:37] <aetherian> register
#4500 [21:37] <V2> Thanks.
#4501 [21:37] <Owner> i did, i have an account
#4502 [21:38] <V2> #help told me to come here, Byt the way.
#4503 [21:38] <aetherian> dotdotdot
#4504 [21:38] <aetherian> v2, register your nick
#4505 [21:38] <xales> you need to register with NickServ
#4506 [21:38] <xales> /msg nickserv register password email
#4507 [21:38] <V2> I have, How does I login again?
#4508 [21:39] <xales> /msg nickserv identify password
#4509 [21:39] <V2> AHA! I forgot identify
#4510 [21:39] * aetherian sighs
#4510 [21:39] <aetherian> xales, put something like that in the topic or something
#4511 [21:39] <aetherian> =\
#4512 [21:39] <BIGBOSS> I try changing my password cuz I dont remember and when I put my email on the websites it says 'could not find this account' I change the password one time before, Dont know what is the problem, I bought the game before it went beta and before the new design of the website
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#4514 [21:40] <xales> BIGBOSS: Wrong email then
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#4516 [21:40] <xales> try doing it by account username
#4517 [21:40] <BIGBOSS> is the right email
#4518 [21:41] <BIGBOSS> is the last I used in the last password change
#4519 [21:41] <xales> Try doing it using the username
#4520 [21:41] <BIGBOSS> thats the thing I dont remember LOL I havent play in a while and a rencetly format my HD
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#4522 [21:43] <xales> Look at payment history then
#4523 [21:43] <xales> email, or paypal account
#4524 [21:43] <BIGBOSS> the paypal invoice doesnt say the username of the game
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#4526 [21:44] <mib_esmccl> Everytime I try to download the beta (I have bought it and can play it in the server window) I get the icon to install on my desktop but when I click to run it I get the error: "Could not create Java virtual machine." I have reinstalled Java but their website recomends the same version for me every time and it seems to not work.
#4527 [21:45] <mib_esmccl> .
#4528 [21:45] <xales> How much RAM does your computer have?
#4529 [21:47] <mib_esmccl> I dont exactly remember, but I can run other games on high settings fine. If that is even relevant.
#4530 [21:48] <xales> Can you check?
#4531 [21:48] <ItsCriminal> click start and then rightclick on computer make then the last Proprieties or something like that (vista, win7)
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#4533 [21:49] * aetherian welcomes aubot
#4533 [21:49] <ItsCriminal> damn sorry im not that good in english :D
#4534 [21:49] <aetherian> nonono
#4535 [21:49] <aetherian> I was talking about aubot
#4536 [21:49] <mib_esmccl> Haha, I can relate.
#4537 [21:49] <BIGBOSS> could it be that we the new website design they lost my email on their Database?
#4538 [21:49] <xales> !die
#4539 [21:49] <ItsCriminal> everest home
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#4541 [21:49] <BIGBOSS> *with
#4542 [21:49] <ItsCriminal> that program tells you how much ram you have too
#4543 [21:50] <xales> BIGBOSS: Not likely
#4544 [21:50] <aetherian> what do you mean, welcomes me back, I've been here for a while
#4545 [21:50] <aetherian> get your bot some AI, kealps
#4546 [21:50] <mbentley> BIGBOSS: doubtful as i imagine the backend has remained the same
#4547 [21:50] <BIGBOSS> I dont get it I changed the password once using the email on the old website
#4548 [21:50] <mbentley> the email password reset hasn't worked for a while if i remember correctly
#4549 [21:51] <xales> The password wasn't something like '12345' or 'password' or remarkably short, was it?
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#4551 [21:51] <mbentley> i have the same combination on my luggage!
#4552 [21:51] <BIGBOSS> no
#4553 [21:51] <xales> Did you ever type it into a website other than minecraft.net (this includes the forum or wiki)
#4554 [21:52] <BIGBOSS> no
#4555 [21:52] <xales> are you certain?
#4556 [21:52] <BIGBOSS> yes
#4557 [21:52] <xales> what
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#4559 [21:52] * xales kicked AuBot from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: ._.)
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#4561 [21:52] <Kealper> whoops
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#4563 [21:52] <xales> anyway
#4564 [21:53] <xales> BIGBOSS: Email daniel@mojang.com with any information you have on the account (transaction ID if possible)
#4565 [21:53] <Kealper> i don't even want to imagine how many channels that just spammed
#4566 [21:53] <BIGBOSS> Thanks for the tip
#4567 [21:53] <hermit> hey I keep getting crashes with this error report
#4568 [21:53] <hermit> oh
#4569 [21:53] <hermit> dangit
#4570 [21:53] <BIGBOSS> I emailed Mojang support but there is no reply yet
#4571 [21:54] <hermit> it didn't copy ):
#4572 [21:54] <xales> Don't paste the error in here
#4573 [21:54] <xales> use http://pastebin.com/
#4574 [21:54] <xales> BIGBOSS: Did you email daniel? also, it may take some time for a reply
#4575 [21:55] <mib_esmccl> Ahhh I only have 2gb of ram
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#4577 [21:55] <relsqui> that's all I've got either
#4578 [21:55] <relsqui> serves me fine
#4579 [21:56] <mib_esmccl> Then it is quite strange that I cant run the game =\
#4580 [21:56] <mib_esmccl> Do you think it might be the kind of Java I have on my PC?
#4581 [21:56] <relsqui> it's a good idea to have the latest and only the latest version installed regardless
#4582 [21:56] <ItsCriminal> 2gb should be fine
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#4584 [21:57] <mib_esmccl> When I go on the website and it dose the system scan it turns out I have the version recommended for my PC though,
#4585 [21:57] <xales> "the website"?
#4586 [21:57] <mib_esmccl> Java website
#4587 [21:57] <ItsCriminal> java website check
#4588 [21:57] <mib_esmccl> ^
#4589 [21:57] <relsqui> mib_esmccl: does it say you also have any others installed?
#4590 [21:58] <xales> mib_esmccl: Do you have any antivirus programs running?
#4591 [21:58] <mib_esmccl> Could it be my firewall?
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#4593 [22:00] <xales> Yes, it could be
#4594 [22:00] <xales> if you have any 'firewall' or 'antivirus' programs running, turn them off
#4595 [22:00] <BIGBOSS> no I didnt emailed daniel, the email was to mojangsupport
#4596 [22:00] <xales> BIGBOSS: Email daniel.
#4597 [22:00] <BIGBOSS> to be precisely it was support@mojang.com
#4598 [22:00] <mib_esmccl> Ill give that a try thank you.
#4599 [22:01] <mib_esmccl> Enjoy the night
#4600 [22:01] <xales> Email daniel as well, you will get a much faster response
#4601 [22:01] <BIGBOSS> I did, thanks\
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#4604 [22:08] <ItsCriminal> hey i want to know if a friend of mine payed the game is it possible you could check that ?
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#4606 [22:09] <checkzor> Alrighty!
#4607 [22:10] <checkzor> How is everyone today
#4608 [22:10] <checkzor> Xales it's time to upgrade
#4609 [22:10] <ItsCriminal> good you `
#4610 [22:10] <xales> checkzor: ?
#4611 [22:10] <checkzor> I'm freaking excellent
#4612 [22:10] <checkzor> a guy donated $500 to the server
#4613 [22:10] <xales> :o
#4614 [22:10] <ItsCriminal> woah :)
#4615 [22:10] <checkzor> yeah it's been up 4 days..
#4616 [22:10] <checkzor> I almost shat
#4617 [22:10] <checkzor> I'm a poor college student, thats a ton of money
#4618 [22:10] <aetherian> join #lw
#4619 [22:11] <aetherian> ack
#4620 [22:11] <aetherian> dammit
#4621 [22:11] * aetherian goes and hides in a hole
#4621 [22:11] <checkzor> so anyway,s upgrade time
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#4623 [22:11] <checkzor> looking for a dedicated
#4624 [22:11] <checkzor> something badass
#4625 [22:11] <checkzor> around 200 a month
#4626 [22:11] <xales> ehh, dedicated is a big expensive
#4627 [22:11] <xales> oh
#4628 [22:11] <xales> thats fine then
#4629 [22:11] <xales> look at softlayer
#4630 [22:11] <checkzor> he said he planed to donate again next month >_>
#4631 [22:11] <xales> http://softlayer.com/
#4632 [22:11] <checkzor> the $500 guy
#4633 [22:11] <checkzor> so yeah...
#4634 [22:12] <xales> obviously, dedicated, from softlayer = good
#4635 [22:12] <xales> get a Xeon one
#4636 [22:12] <xales> single processor is fine
#4637 [22:12] <xales> you can add more RAM after clicking the plan
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#4639 [22:12] <checkzor> ahh
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#4641 [22:13] <checkzor> hmm
#4642 [22:13] <checkzor> maybe I should up my budget to 350
#4643 [22:13] <checkzor> and get 8 gigs
#4644 [22:13] <checkzor> I mean he said hes planning on donating next month >_>
#4645 [22:14] <xales> You'd be fine with 4 probably
#4646 [22:14] <xales> but..up to you
#4647 [22:14] <checkzor> 6 it is
#4648 [22:14] <checkzor> man I can't believe he donated that much
#4649 [22:14] <checkzor> I mean, hosting a server became profitable..
#4650 [22:14] <checkzor> what the hell
#4651 [22:15] <checkzor> asked him if he typed another zero by accident, he said no..
#4652 [22:16] <xales> lol
#4653 [22:16] <ItsCriminal> :P
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#4655 [22:17] <checkzor> wonder what he does for a living
#4656 [22:18] <ItsCriminal> google his name :D
#4657 [22:18] <checkzor> lol
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#4660 [22:23] <euronymous> i paid for minecraft in september '10 and for some reason my account isn't recognized as premium
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#4662 [22:23] <euronymous> now that i've logged back into it at least
#4663 [22:23] <euronymous> any suggestions
#4664 [22:24] <xales> what is the username?
#4665 [22:24] <euronymous> <---
#4666 [22:24] <euronymous> is it possible for 2 accounts to be attached to the same email i guess
#4667 [22:24] <euronymous> it's possible i have a seperate account
#4668 [22:24] <xales> I doubt it
#4669 [22:24] <euronymous> i have the paypal receipt and everything
#4670 [22:25] <xales> email daniel I guess, include the transaction ID from the receipt (daniel@mojang.com)
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#4672 [22:26] <Wahrheit> Notch is aware of the issue where sometimes players become invisible?
#4673 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> That still happens?
#4674 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Thought that was fixed
#4675 [22:28] <euronymous> okay, email sent
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#4677 [22:29] <Wahrheit> GreyVulpine: It might be specific to hmod 134 but I have it happen daily
#4678 [22:29] <Wahrheit> I have to tell users to hop or I'll kick them
#4679 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> Oh, you're still using an old version of the server?
#4680 [22:31] <Wahrheit> GreyVulpine: Eh?
#4681 [22:31] <Wahrheit> GreyVulpine: To my knowledge 134 A15 is up to date
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#4683 [22:32] <Wahrheit> Oh wow
#4684 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> The player invisibility bug is a known problem, that was fixed in later revisions of the vanilla software. Hmod, to my knowledge, is discontinued.
#4685 [22:32] <Wahrheit> My website is hit 6 for hmod 134 on google :p
#4686 [22:32] <Wahrheit> GreyVulpine: nope.jpg
#4687 [22:32] <Wahrheit> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1023&t=147182
#4688 [22:35] <Kealper> !ping
#4689 [22:35] <xales> !pong
#4690 [22:35] <Kealper> crickets y u no ping
#4691 [22:35] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: just /ctcp chanserv ping.
#4692 [22:36] <Wahrheit> So, invisible players?
#4693 [22:36] <Kealper> doesn't know it
#4694 [22:36] <Kealper> Wahrheit: did you die?
#4695 [22:36] <Kealper> if yes: relog
#4696 [22:36] <Kealper> if no: relog
#4697 [22:38] <GV> hmod is still only unofficially supported from this point on.
#4698 [22:38] <GV> The invisible players bug was fixed
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#4700 [22:41] <xales> There are two of you! :o
#4701 [22:42] <DopeGhoti> even citing 'unofficial support' for a mod that was never officially anything is tenuous at best.
#4702 [22:42] <GV> Lies
#4703 [22:42] <GV> All lies
#4704 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Damn you greybot, did you have to break on the day after I leave
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#4706 [22:49] <GV> !ping
#4707 [22:49] <GreyBot> GV Your Ping time was 0.32 Seconds.
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#4709 [22:49] <aetherian> !ping
#4710 [22:49] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.381 Seconds.
#4711 [22:50] <xales> !pong
#4712 [22:50] <aetherian> I can make that lower
#4713 [22:50] <aetherian> !ping
#4714 [22:50] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.391 Seconds.
#4715 [22:50] <aetherian> skillzyeah
#4716 [22:50] * GreyVulpine snerks
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#4717 [22:51] <aetherian> so sue me, I need to download this file
#4718 [22:51] <GV> Ah, there we go
#4719 [22:51] <aetherian> !ping
#4720 [22:51] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.4 Seconds.
#4721 [22:51] * xales thought GV was gone for several days?
#4721 [22:51] <aetherian> woooo
#4722 [22:51] <GV> I am, VPNing into my machine
#4723 [22:51] <aetherian> hey GV
#4724 [22:51] <GV> /whois me
#4725 [22:51] <xales> ah
#4726 [22:51] <aetherian> wait... does GV==grey?
#4727 [22:51] <GV> Pfft
#4728 [22:52] <xales> ._.
#4729 [22:52] <aetherian> guess not
#4730 [22:52] <aetherian> k
#4731 [22:52] <aetherian> :#
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#4733 [22:53] <GV> O.o
#4734 [22:55] <aetherian> o.o
#4735 [22:55] <xales> ._.
#4736 [22:56] <aetherian> pass the salt
#4737 [22:56] <GV> !isdown minecraft.net
#4738 [22:56] <GreyBot> GV: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#4739 [22:57] <GV> website still going up and down as of late?
#4740 [22:57] <xales> yeah
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#4742 [22:57] <aetherian> !isdown google.com
#4743 [22:57] <GreyBot> aetherian: It's just you. http://google.com is up.
#4744 [22:57] <aetherian> hehehe
#4745 [22:57] <aetherian> !isdown 127.0.0.1
#4746 [22:57] <aetherian> aww
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#4748 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow, ctcp attack a couple hours ago?
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#4750 [23:01] <xales> what? when
#4751 [23:01] <xales> where
#4752 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> [09:08.51pm] [rfe3889:#smp VERSION]
#4753 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> [09:07.26pm] [b3673:#bukkit VERSION]
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#4755 [23:02] <xales> was there more than one ctcp in those channels?
#4756 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Tons
#4757 [23:02] <xales> oh, I see now
#4758 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> I can understand #bukkit.. but #smp?
#4759 [23:03] <xales> Noob attack I suppose.
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#4761 [23:04] <Wahrheit> Kealper: Death isn't the issue, being able to see what people are doing and where they are is, especially if we go pvp
#4762 [23:07] <Kealper> yaaay! bot core updates!
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#4764 [23:08] <Wahrheit> !paid Wahrheit
#4765 [23:08] <Wahrheit> durp
#4766 [23:08] <Wahrheit> !help
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#4768 [23:09] <Wahrheit> D:
#4769 [23:09] <Wahrheit> !server
#4770 [23:09] <Wahrheit> !client
#4771 [23:09] <xales> !status
#4772 [23:10] <Kealper> i should really disable "logoff" for that user account
#4773 [23:10] <xales> lol
#4774 [23:11] <Kealper> i really hope that did not corrupt anything on my mc map....i'd hate that a lot :/
#4775 [23:11] <Wahrheit> Kealper: Every time user "V.2" teleports they become invisible
#4776 [23:11] <Wahrheit> wat do
#4777 [23:11] <Kealper> oh that's weird
#4778 [23:11] <Kealper> any mods?
#4779 [23:11] <Wahrheit> many
#4780 [23:11] <Kealper> hmm
#4781 [23:11] <Wahrheit> But this happens to no other users
#4782 [23:11] <Kealper> O.o
#4783 [23:12] <xales> does he have any client mods?
#4784 [23:12] <Kealper> does he have anything important on his person right now?
#4785 [23:12] <Wahrheit> Lemme ask
#4786 [23:12] <Kealper> if no, kick him and delete his player.dat from your world/players folder before he reconnects lol
#4787 [23:13] <Wahrheit> I don't have direct access to that :/
#4788 [23:13] <Wahrheit> It fixes when he dc/rc's
#4789 [23:13] <Kealper> oh :/
#4790 [23:13] <Kealper> weird
#4791 [23:15] <Wahrheit> how do submit to notch
#4792 [23:15] <Wahrheit> I mean other than twitter
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#4794 [23:16] <GV> This isn't a minecraft bug, it's an hmod bug
#4795 [23:16] <GV> It was fixed in minecraft already
#4796 [23:16] <Kealper> :o
#4797 [23:16] <Wahrheit> Oh really?
#4798 [23:16] <Wahrheit> What was the cause so I can forward it to meaglin?
#4799 [23:17] <GV> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/if_armor_is_worn_and_you_die_it_causes_player_corruption
#4800 [23:17] <GV> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/invisible_and_cant_do_crap
#4801 [23:17] <Kealper> that's...interesting
#4802 [23:17] <GV> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/invisible_to_most_and_cant_pick_up_items
#4803 [23:18] <GV> Can I stop now?
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#4805 [23:18] <Wahrheit> GV: cheers
#4806 [23:19] <Wahrheit> Nvm, I meant on code level
#4807 [23:19] <xales> Kealper
#4808 [23:19] <GV> I don't know what meaglin has done with hmod since its official, unoffical stop
#4809 [23:19] <xales> scroll up in #help
#4810 [23:19] <Wahrheit> And he's only LITERALLY invisible, not unable to do anything
#4811 [23:19] <xales> >.>
#4812 [23:20] <Wahrheit> xales: In #help? I'm not in that channel
#4813 [23:20] <Wahrheit> oh
#4814 [23:20] <Wahrheit> ha ha ha
#4815 [23:20] <xales> ?
#4816 [23:20] <GV> Hmm, then that's definitely not a minecraft bug, haven't heard of that happening in vanilla at all
#4817 [23:20] <xales> Wahrheit: what?
#4818 [23:21] <GV> player dies, becomes invisible, running hmod
#4819 [23:21] <GV> relog fixes
#4820 [23:21] <Kealper> xales: i think i lost a few IQ points reading that
#4821 [23:22] <Wahrheit> GV: Not death
#4822 [23:22] <Wahrheit> xales: I'm not in #help, pastebin whatever happened?
#4823 [23:22] <GV> not death? Just tp?
#4824 [23:22] <Kealper> basically some nub came in...asking if #help was a help channel...amidst a ton of him changing his nick
#4825 [23:23] <Wahrheit> GV: Just tp, relog fixes
#4826 [23:24] <GV> I don't know then, still seems like an hmod issue to me
#4827 [23:25] <GV> Are you running any sort of special tp plugin for hmod?
#4828 [23:25] <GV> If so, I'd blame it on the plugin
#4829 [23:27] <GV> !weather dc
#4830 [23:27] <GreyBot> GV: From Eckington Pl, NE, Washington, District of Columbia (11:26p Feb 08 11) temp(26.1 F / -3.3 C, feels like 17 F / -8 C) cond(Scattered Clouds) wind(NNW at 9.0 mph / 14.5 km/h) hu(41%) dewpnt(6 F / -15 C) bp(30.29 in / 1025.6 hPa (Rising)) clouds((FEW) : 7500 ft / 2286 m, Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 25000 ft / 7620 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#4831 [23:27] <GreyBot> Rest of Tonight: Partly cloudy. Cooler with lows around 17. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.
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#4835 [23:29] <Wahrheit> xales: I definitely almost pissed myself reading that out of sheer lack of brainpower
#4836 [23:30] <Shadow386> !weather
#4837 [23:31] <xales> lol
#4838 [23:31] <xales> :irc.summaxr.com 312 xales Wahrheit irc.summaxr.com :SummaXR-IRCNet
#4839 [23:31] <xales> :irc.summaxr.com 313 xales Wahrheit :is a Network Administrator
#4840 [23:31] <xales> ^telnet whois
#4841 [23:33] * xales wonders why no talking :o
#4841 [23:33] <Wahrheit> xales: wut?
#4842 [23:33] <Wahrheit> xales: so?
#4843 [23:33] <xales> lol
#4844 [23:33] * xales found your ircd
#4844 [23:33] <Wahrheit> I CAN WHOIS YOU TOO
#4845 [23:33] <xales> do it with telnet
#4846 [23:33] * Wahrheit is glad and would love to have you join us
#4846 [23:33] <xales> :)
#4847 [23:33] <nipper> !weather 85929
#4848 [23:34] <GreyBot> nipper: From Starwood Estates, Pinetop, Arizona (9:33p Feb 08 11) temp(25.2 F / -3.8 C, feels like 25 F / -4 C) cond(Overcast) wind(NE at 2.0 mph / 3.2 km/h) hu(85%) dewpnt(21 F / -6 C) bp(29.99 in / 1015.5 hPa (Steady)) clouds((FEW) : 2700 ft / 822 m, Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 3600 ft / 1097 m, Overcast (OVC) : 4400 ft / 1341 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#4849 [23:34] <GreyBot> Tonight: Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow showers. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Lows 8 to 14 above 7000 feet...12 to 18 below 7000 feet. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 35 mph shifting to the northeast in the late evening and overnight.
#4850 [23:34] <Wahrheit> xales: the fuck is telnet
#4851 [23:34] <xales> lol
#4852 [23:34] <nipper> 50% ha its 100% it is snowing.
#4853 [23:34] <GV> !wiki telnet
#4854 [23:34] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnet
#4855 [23:34] <GreyBot> Telnet is a network protocol used on the Internet or local area networks to provide a bidirectional interactive text-oriented communications facility using a virtual terminal connection. User data is interspersed in-band with Telnet control information in an 8-bit byte oriented data connection over the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP).
#4856 [23:34] <Miclee> I wonder...
#4857 [23:34] <Miclee> !weather Canada
#4858 [23:34] <GreyBot> Miclee: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#4859 [23:34] <xales> kill wahrheit :rofl
#4860 [23:34] <xales> :irc.summaxr.com 481 xales :Permission Denied- You do not have the correct IRC operator privileges
#4861 [23:34] <Miclee> Damn.
#4862 [23:34] <Wahrheit> xales: no
#4863 [23:34] <Miclee> !weather Barrie, Ontario, Canada
#4864 [23:34] <GV> really... weather for ALL of canada
#4865 [23:34] <xales> Wahrheit: :P
#4866 [23:34] <GreyBot> Miclee: From Barrie, Barrie, Ontario (11:30p Feb 08 11) temp(10.2 F / -12.1 C, feels like 0 F / -18 C) cond(Partly Cloudy) wind(SW at 6.4 mph / 10.3 km/h) hu(81%) dewpnt(6 F / -15 C) bp(29.94 in / 1013.8 hPa (Steady)) clouds((FEW) : 3000 ft / 914 m) vis(9.0 miles / 14.5 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#4867 [23:34] <GreyBot> Tuesday: Snow. High: 17 F.
#4868 [23:35] <Shadow386> !weather Largo, Florida
#4869 [23:35] <Shadow386> oh well
#4870 [23:35] <GV> flood protect
#4871 [23:35] <Shadow386> ah
#4872 [23:35] <Shadow386> I tried to make my own bot, but not doing too well :D
#4873 [23:35] <GV> Greybot's an OLD bot. Been with me for years
#4874 [23:35] <Shadow386> pircbot since I mainly know java >_>
#4875 [23:35] <xales> Wahrheit: so mean :(
#4876 [23:35] <Wahrheit> xales: You can rejoin, just making a point
#4877 [23:36] <Wahrheit> xales: I have an IRCnet omg so speshul
#4878 [23:36] <Shadow386> !weather Largo, Florida, USA
#4879 [23:36] <GreyBot> Shadow386: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#4880 [23:36] <xales> I'm just bored >.>
#4881 [23:36] <GV> try zip
#4882 [23:36] <Wahrheit> xales: Come join the server then!
#4883 [23:36] <xales> I won't rejoin with telnet, lol
#4884 [23:36] <Shadow386> !weather Largo, Florida, US
#4885 [23:36] <GreyBot> Shadow386: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#4886 [23:36] <Wahrheit> xales: Or the ircnet, try #radio or #minecraft or both
#4887 [23:36] <Shadow386> zip?
#4888 [23:36] <GV> zip code
#4889 [23:36] <Wahrheit> !weather 97225
#4890 [23:36] <GreyBot> Wahrheit: From 217, Beaverton, Oregon (8:35p Feb 08 11) temp(39.7 F / 4.3 C, feels like 40 F / 4 C) cond(Clear) wind(North at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(82%) dewpnt(35 F / 1 C) bp(30.56 in / 1034.8 hPa (Rising)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#4891 [23:36] <GreyBot> Tonight: Partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 30 to 35. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.
#4892 [23:36] <Wahrheit> that is not beaverton
#4893 [23:36] <Shadow386> !weather 33771
#4894 [23:36] <Wahrheit> that is portland
#4895 [23:36] <Wahrheit> learn to FUCKING weather, weatherbot
#4896 [23:37] <Shadow386> !weather 33771
#4897 [23:37] <Shadow386> bleh
#4898 [23:37] <xales> why is wallops a default mode?
#4899 [23:37] <Shadow386> flood is so longggg
#4900 [23:37] <Wahrheit> Huh?
#4901 [23:37] <GV> Again, flood protect
#4902 [23:37] <GV> Hah
#4903 [23:37] <Wahrheit> xales: I have no idea what that is
#4904 [23:37] <xales> :irc.summaxr.com 422 xales :MOTD File is missing
#4905 [23:37] <xales> :xales MODE xales :+iwx
#4906 [23:37] <Wahrheit> xales: durrr
#4907 [23:37] <Shadow386> !weather 33771
#4908 [23:37] <xales> also, wallops >.>
#4909 [23:37] <Shadow386> good god how long is the flood? xD
#4910 [23:37] <xales> /help wallops
#4911 [23:37] <Wahrheit> xales: "I have yet to write the MOTD because minecraft is killing my free time with all the configs"
#4912 [23:37] <GV> 90 seconds I believe
#4913 [23:37] <Shadow386> !weather 33771
#4914 [23:37] <GreyBot> Shadow386: From Largo FL, Largo, Florida (11:37p Feb 08 11) temp(45.5 F / 7.5 C, feels like 46 F / 8 C) cond(Clear) wind(North at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(87%) dewpnt(42 F / 6 C) bp(30.19 in / 1022.2 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0.0 out of 16)
#4915 [23:37] <GreyBot> Rest of Tonight: Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 40s near the coast and in the mid 30s inland. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.
#4916 [23:38] <Shadow386> and my feet are cold in this?
#4917 [23:38] <Shadow386> god damn
#4918 [23:42] <Miclee> 8C?
#4919 [23:42] <Miclee> Damn that's warm.
#4920 [23:43] <ItsCriminal> when is an update coming for minecraft? like a BIG one :D
#4921 [23:44] <Kealper> when it comes
#4922 [23:46] <Kealper> !w 48060
#4923 [23:46] <xales> Wahrheit: People here can't figure out how to register with NickServ using real clients.
#4924 [23:46] <xales> I just did it with telnet, pwned!
#4925 [23:46] <xales> :NickServ!NickServ@services.summaxr.com NOTICE xales :xales is now registered to xales@darksigns.net, with the password lolznet.
#4926 [23:46] <ItsCriminal> i got it :D
#4927 [23:47] * xales pokes Wahrheit
#4927 [23:47] <ItsCriminal> i just was wondering, im totaly new on here, that you can see on my purchasing date :D
#4928 [23:47] <xales> nope
#4929 [23:47] <ItsCriminal> ok damn :P
#4930 [23:48] * Kealper2 [Kealper2@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4931 [23:48] <Kealper2> ohgod spam...telnet ftl
#4932 [23:49] <xales> you telnetted on here?
#4933 [23:49] <Kealper2> yes? lol
#4934 [23:49] <xales> does that even work? I thought esper had like 1 second ping timemout?
#4935 [23:49] <Wahrheit> xales: nice pass
#4936 [23:49] <xales> for new connections anyway
#4937 [23:49] <Kealper2> gotta be quick lol
#4938 [23:49] <xales> Wahrheit: lolz was too simple, so net for internet
#4939 [23:50] <Kealper2> it's longer than 1 sec for that beginning ping
#4940 [23:50] * Kealper2 gets ready for the next ping to respond to
#4940 [23:51] <xales> ah
#4941 [23:51] <xales> Wahrheit's server has't pinged me lol
#4942 [23:51] <xales> not since the initial
#4943 [23:51] <Kealper2> i'm on eldridge, and yea, no ping to me either and it's been ages
#4944 [23:52] <xales> maybe it doesn't ping if you have sent a command recently
#4945 [23:52] <Kealper2> that'd be cool
#4946 [23:52] <xales> grr
#4947 [23:52] <xales> whatever services he is using won't let me ghost myself
#4948 [23:53] <Kealper2> what server are you on? and are you telnetting to it or actually using a client? lol
#4949 [23:53] <Wahrheit> xales: atheme
#4950 [23:53] <Wahrheit> xales: I can't figure out how to +q with it
#4951 [23:53] <xales> +q?
#4952 [23:54] <Wahrheit> ~
#4953 [23:54] <Wahrheit> (~Wahrheit)
#4954 [23:54] <xales> oh
#4955 [23:54] <xales> thats a stupid unrealircd thing
#4956 [23:54] <xales> get a services that supports unreal's shit
#4957 [23:54] <Wahrheit> I just need op?
#4958 [23:54] <xales> or don't use unreal
#4959 [23:54] <xales> use charybdis like a bro
#4960 [23:54] <Shadow386> what instead?
#4961 [23:54] <Shadow386> O.o
#4962 [23:54] <xales> unreal = bloat, not-rfc
#4963 [23:54] <Kealper2> get Anope for unrealircd
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#4965 [23:55] <Wahrheit> They put atheme on it though, said it was better
#4966 [23:56] <Wahrheit> dsfargeg
#4967 [23:56] <xales> "they"
#4968 [23:56] <Wahrheit> Support
#4969 [23:56] <xales> ircd hosting = lol ._.
#4970 [23:56] <GV> ew, unreal
#4971 [23:56] <Wahrheit> Whatever, the guy is nice
#4972 [23:56] * GV blehs
#4972 [23:56] <Wahrheit> he gave me his cell #
#4973 [23:56] <Kealper> tell em to go rot in a ditch and put Anope on it if you insist on using unreal
#4974 [23:56] <Wahrheit> Alright
#4975 [23:56] <xales> lol
#4976 [23:57] <Kealper> leave out the rot in a ditch part though
#4977 [23:57] <xales> server says "join #summaxr if you have further questions"
#4978 [23:57] <xales> join #summaxr
#4979 [23:57] <xales> :irc.summaxr.com NOTICE xales :*** Can not join #summaxr: type: /list for allowed channels
#4980 [23:57] <xales> >.>
#4981 [23:57] <Wahrheit> #caht
#4982 [23:57] <Kealper> lol
#4983 [23:57] <Wahrheit> *#chat
#4984 [23:57] <xales> Kealper
#4985 [23:57] <xales> come be irc buddeh with me
#4986 [23:57] <xales> on there
#4987 [23:58] <Kealper> telnet?
#4988 [23:58] <xales> Wahrheit: you should fix the help thing then
#4989 [23:58] <Wahrheit> xales: maybe
#4990 [23:58] <xales> Kealper: telnet irc.summaxr.net 6667
#4991 [23:58] <xales> :irc.summaxr.com 292 xales : ***** Go to #summaxr if you have any further questions *****
#4992 [23:58] <Wahrheit> xales: I will soon
#4993 [23:58] <Wahrheit> xales: where does it say that?
#4994 [23:58] * Freddy [Freddy@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4995 [23:58] <Wahrheit> I didn't set it up
#4996 [23:58] <xales> Wahrheit: in the /help thing
#4997 [23:59] <Wahrheit> ...I'm using mIRC
#4998 [23:59] <xales> try /quote help asdf