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#3 [00:05] <aetherian> heh, mirc
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#5 [00:05] <Draglems1> I can has some help? <_>
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#7 [00:05] <Wahrheit> Draglems1: don't ask to ask just ask
#8 [00:05] <Draglems1> Whats the best way to farm animals?
#9 [00:06] <Draglems1> I've tried building a house whith torches on the outside of it, no luck (Obviously, ditches to catch the animals..)
#10 [00:07] <cfdpipeman> did you put grass inside the house?
#11 [00:07] <Draglems1> The house is made of dirt.
#12 [00:08] <cfdpipeman> animals spawn on grass
#13 [00:08] <ItsCriminal> so if i would do a a fense arount a big area, they would spawn and stay forever there? or do i miss understud?
#14 [00:08] <Draglems1> No, I put the torches ON my house which has a huge ditch around it
#15 [00:09] <Draglems1> I want animals to kill
#16 [00:09] <Draglems1> Because I move island to island, exploring.
#17 [00:09] <cfdpipeman> The animals will not stay there forever inside a fence. They eventually get out.
#18 [00:10] <Draglems1> Its not supposed to be a fence
#19 [00:10] <cfdpipeman> But I know they will spawn on grass inside a house
#20 [00:10] <Draglems1> its a DITCH around the house
#21 [00:10] <cfdpipeman> put grass in the ditch
#22 [00:11] <Draglems1> where do i get grass?
#23 [00:11] <ItsCriminal> dirt on the ground
#24 [00:11] <ItsCriminal> and there it will grow
#25 [00:11] <ItsCriminal> it needs normaly some light
#26 [00:11] <ItsCriminal> but torches make enough light
#27 [00:12] <Draglems1> well considering the ground i'm building on is grass..
#28 [00:12] <ItsCriminal> well then its perfect
#29 [00:12] <Draglems1> then whats the problem with the ditch?
#30 [00:12] <ItsCriminal> nothing
#31 [00:13] <ItsCriminal> thats how i understud it, how cfdpipeman told it here
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#33 [00:15] <KillSpammer> Thats right, hide behind each other!
#34 [00:18] <Kealper> telnetting to an irc server ftw
#35 [00:21] <xales> indeed
#36 [00:21] <Kealper> putty is actually bearable as an irc client lol
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#38 [00:26] <xales> gah
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#40 [00:27] <Kealper> wut
#41 [00:27] <Kealper> !status
#42 [00:27] <Kealper> hmm
#43 [00:27] <xales> I got owned lol ._.
#44 [00:27] <Kealper> !load mod_bot
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#46 [00:28] <SinZ> ohai kealper
#47 [00:28] <Kealper> ello
#48 [00:28] <SinZ> You do know your Au_Bot thingy is off, right
#49 [00:29] <Kealper> AuBot? it's on
#50 [00:29] <SinZ> ehh no it isn;t
#51 [00:29] <SinZ> Oh fuck me, didn't see it as op
#52 [00:29] <SinZ> its normaly voice or normal
#53 [00:30] <Kealper> lol
#54 [00:30] <Kealper> it's op'd now because it has flood control stuff for the channel to kickban for 5 sec if someone spams
#55 [00:32] <Kealper> Pigman: stop sucking and changing your name...that is a massive penalty in IdleRPG >.>
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#58 [00:42] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: only if ey's logged in.
#59 [00:42] <Kealper> true, true
#60 [00:48] <DopeGhoti> Not minecraft related, but holy s[bleep]t- Jellyvision finally came out with a new YDKJ game, and it is awesome, and totally worth the price if you at all liked the older ones.
#61 [00:48] <Kealper> o.o
#62 [00:49] * xales bites Kealper again
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#63 [00:50] * Kealper rawrs loudly
#63 [00:51] <mib_03g7mn> I've been trying all day and looking everywhere for a solution on to how come when I download the minecraft installation and i go to run it i get an error that says "Could not create the Java Virtual Machine."
#64 [00:52] <Kealper> mib_03g7mn: computer specs?
#65 [00:53] <mib_03g7mn> Windows XP, 2GB Ram, 2.40 GHz, Intel(R) Core(TM)2CPU
#66 [00:54] <Kealper> hmm...try resinstalling java, http://java.com
#67 [00:54] <mib_03g7mn> Ill try again but it would be my 3rd time. AFK for 30 seconds
#68 [00:55] <Kealper> oh...very hmm...
#69 [00:55] <xales> probably just need to specify less start ram
#70 [00:55] <GV> get mib_03g7mn to use the .jar, and execute with decreased ram stuff
#71 [00:55] <GV> bah ninja-d
#72 [00:55] <xales> >:)
#73 [00:56] <Kealper> does it really yell like that randomly even if they have more than enough ram? lol
#74 [00:56] <Kealper> stupid java ._.
#75 [00:56] <mib_03g7mn> Where and how would I "specify less start ram"
#76 [00:56] <Kealper> !client
#77 [00:56] <Kealper> download that .jar file
#78 [00:56] <Kealper> then say in here when you downloaded it
#79 [00:57] <Kealper> and save it somewhere safe, where it won't get accidentally deleted
#80 [00:58] <mib_03g7mn> I downloaded it to my desktop but when I went to run it i got the Could not create Java virtual machine error.
#81 [00:58] <Kealper> right click on your desktop, go to New > text document
#82 [00:58] <mib_03g7mn> K, did that
#83 [00:59] <Kealper> open that up in notepad
#84 [00:59] <mib_03g7mn> Check
#85 [00:59] <Kealper> put in that file:
#86 [00:59] <Kealper> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
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#88 [00:59] <Kealper> save that as "Minecraft.bat"
#89 [00:59] <Portality> hello
#90 [00:59] <Kealper> don't forget to select "All Files" for the type to save as
#91 [01:00] <Kealper> it should have an icon that has a box with a gear in it
#92 [01:00] <Kealper> when you look at it on your desktop
#93 [01:00] <mib_03g7mn> I did
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#95 [01:00] <Kealper> run it, see if it still does it
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#97 [01:00] <Kealper> and hello Portality
#98 [01:01] <Kealper> and when i said run it, i mean double click that minecraft.bat file
#99 [01:02] <mib_03g7mn> I did, and for a short blink of an eye what seemed to be a command prompt pop up and down
#100 [01:02] <mib_03g7mn> Then I assume you wanted me to try to run the minecraft.exe?
#101 [01:02] <Kealper> no, that should have launched it, but i guess it does not like those params
#102 [01:02] <Kealper> right click that bat file and select Edit
#103 [01:03] <mib_03g7mn> K
#104 [01:03] <mib_03g7mn> PS: Thanks for the patience and help :)
#105 [01:03] <xales> Kealper
#106 [01:03] <xales> java not in path
#107 [01:03] <xales> that is why
#108 [01:04] <Kealper> damnit i keep forgetting that
#109 [01:04] <Kealper> gah....don't feel like explaining path
#110 [01:04] <Kealper> mib_03g7mn: for the sake of doing it, make a new line in that bat file and put pause
#111 [01:04] <Kealper> save, run it
#112 [01:04] <Kealper> check if the cmd window says could not create VM or could not find java
#113 [01:05] <mib_03g7mn> K, now the command prompt stayed open
#114 [01:05] <Kealper> and it says?
#115 [01:05] <aetherian> what do rabbits use when they need to dry their hair
#116 [01:06] <aetherian> a hare dryer
#117 [01:06] <Kealper> this is going to be stupid, i can feel it in my bones :/
#118 [01:06] <Kealper> ugh lol
#119 [01:06] <mib_03g7mn> The last line reads "Could not create the Java virtual machine."
#120 [01:06] <Kealper> aha! i was right!
#121 [01:06] <Kealper> ok, still got that notepad window open?
#122 [01:06] <mib_03g7mn> Do now
#123 [01:06] <Kealper> change -Xms512M to -Xms256M
#124 [01:07] <Kealper> and change -Xmx1024M to -Xmx512M
#125 [01:07] <Kealper> save, run again
#126 [01:08] <mib_03g7mn> The last line reads the same as before, but above it i noticed it says "Could not reserve enough space for objective heap"
#127 [01:08] <mib_03g7mn> And above that reads-
#128 [01:08] <mib_03g7mn> "Error occured during initialization of UM"
#129 [01:08] <Kealper> hmm...has it always said that could not reserve enough space for objective heap?
#130 [01:09] <mib_03g7mn> Wait I did not do the -Xmx1024M to -Xmx512M
#131 [01:10] <Kealper> wow...AES 256 is fast....lol
#132 [01:10] <Kealper> like...really fast
#133 [01:11] <Kealper> with a 16 char encryption key, and the string to be encrypted being 0-9, a-z, A-Z....the times are impressive
#134 [01:11] <Kealper> 0.192121496209529
#135 [01:11] <Kealper> 0.109504364251742
#136 [01:11] <Kealper> 0.0977717537961978
#137 [01:11] <Kealper> that number is in milliseconds
#138 [01:11] <mib_03g7mn> Hmm, now with the new code in it says "Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.launcherframe. program will exit."
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#140 [01:12] <mib_03g7mn> There is a bunch of stuff over that line though.
#141 [01:12] <Kealper> hmmm....paste the line in that batch file that starts with java
#142 [01:12] <Kealper> just the whole thing..paste it in here so i can see if it's right
#143 [01:12] <mib_03g7mn> Not this?
#144 [01:12] <mib_03g7mn> java -Xmx512M -Xms256M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame pause
#145 [01:13] <mib_03g7mn> The command prompt part, right?
#146 [01:13] <Kealper> pause is on it's own line right?
#147 [01:13] <mib_03g7mn> Pause is below correct
#148 [01:13] <Kealper> ok....hmm
#149 [01:13] <mib_03g7mn> It just did not past that way.
#150 [01:14] <Kealper> ok then...uhh..set both of those values down to 128M
#151 [01:14] <Kealper> go for broke to see if it even tries to start it :/
#152 [01:14] <xales> Kealper, could be like, Norton or something being a douche
#153 [01:14] <Kealper> might be, if this doesn't work i was going to jump to that section of crap
#154 [01:15] <mib_03g7mn> Oh, shit. Should I turn off my firewall + Avira antivir?
#155 [01:15] <xales> try lowering the numbers first
#156 [01:15] <Kealper> avira usually does not interfere, as i run it on mine, but yeah, if this fails turn off those for a few and try again
#157 [01:15] <mib_03g7mn> They are both set to 128
#158 [01:15] <Kealper> ok, save, run
#159 [01:16] <Kealper> has it ever worked for you before?
#160 [01:16] <mib_03g7mn> Nope, I bought the game 2 days ago and just played in browser. But now I am trying to get it on my PC to download texture packs
#161 [01:17] <xales> Did it work with the 128?
#162 [01:17] <Kealper> so it works in the browser just fine?
#163 [01:17] <mib_03g7mn> Yep, perfectly.
#164 [01:17] <Kealper> that's strange
#165 [01:17] <xales> antivirus.
#166 [01:17] <xales> possibly not avira
#167 [01:17] <xales> maybe something else is hiding in hidden icon area?
#168 [01:18] <xales> >.>
#169 [01:18] <Kealper> yeah i don't think it would be avira, it's quite a tame av...
#170 [01:18] <mib_03g7mn> I wouldnt know where els to look for another av.
#171 [01:18] <xales> what firewall is it? just Windows Firewall?
#172 [01:18] <mib_03g7mn> Correct
#173 [01:19] <Kealper> that wouldn't do it either :/
#174 [01:19] <xales> Kealper, are you familiar with hijackthis?
#175 [01:19] <Kealper> for the heck of it, just disable avira for a few and try running the .jar
#176 [01:19] <Kealper> not completely
#177 [01:19] <xales> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HijackThis
#178 [01:19] <Kealper> i know of it, and what it is, but i've never been on the support end of it
#179 [01:20] <mib_03g7mn> when i did Ctrl alt delete and went to processes I found a program runing called avguard.exe
#180 [01:20] <mib_03g7mn> Would that mean anything?
#181 [01:20] <Kealper> that's avira
#182 [01:20] <mib_03g7mn> KK
#183 [01:20] <aetherian> a viral what
#184 [01:20] <aetherian> :o
#185 [01:21] <mib_03g7mn> hijack this, what would it do for me exactly?
#186 [01:21] <aetherian> scan you
#187 [01:21] <aetherian> iirc
#188 [01:21] <Kealper> it lets people debug your computer remotely
#189 [01:22] <xales> well..it more just gives them information that they can then look at
#190 [01:22] <xales> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HijackThis.png
#191 [01:22] <mib_03g7mn> Oh- I was about to say IDK if I want people remotly controling my PC
#192 [01:22] <Kealper> no, it's not a remote control thing
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#194 [01:23] <mib_03g7mn> So lets say I downloaded this, what would you do then?
#195 [01:23] <Kealper> just gives a ton of info like computer specs, processes that are running, etc
#196 [01:23] <xales> you would click 'save log' and copy it to pastebin.com
#197 [01:23] <mib_03g7mn> Give me a minute then,
#198 [01:23] <aetherian> it allows us root acce- I mean, tells us a bit about your computer
#199 [01:23] <xales> !kick aetherian
#200 [01:23] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: Uh oh! Looks like someone should have read the rules! (Issued by xales with reason: None given.))
#201 [01:23] <xales> ._.
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#203 [01:23] <Kealper> lol
#204 [01:23] <aetherian> lul
#205 [01:24] <aetherian> pushy pushy
#206 [01:24] <mib_03g7mn> What would be a creditable website to get this from?
#207 [01:24] <mib_03g7mn> http://free.antivirus.com/hijackthis/
#208 [01:24] <xales> that, yes
#209 [01:24] <xales> it looks stupid, but it is the official site
#210 [01:24] <aetherian> yeah...
#211 [01:25] <Kealper> trend micro owns antivirus.com? sheesh that domain must cost a fortune per year lol
#212 [01:25] <Kealper> and yeah, avira's website for their personal edition sounds fake lol, freeav.com
#213 [01:25] <mib_03g7mn> I have it runing now, should I do a system scan?
#214 [01:26] <xales> yeah
#215 [01:26] <mib_03g7mn> Scan complete you want me to link this all to you?
#216 [01:27] <xales> Do "copy log" and paste it on http://pastebin.com/
#217 [01:27] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com check the "private post
#218 [01:27] <Kealper> dangit
#219 [01:27] <Kealper> check the private post checkbox though
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#221 [01:27] <xales> and yeah, make sure it's a private paste
#222 [01:27] <aetherian> yeah, don't copypasta it all here
#223 [01:27] <aetherian> although that would be fun
#224 [01:27] <xales> I doubt there would be anything bad in it, but it isn't something you want all over the internet either
#225 [01:27] <Kealper> aubot would have a digital nerdrage lol
#226 [01:27] <mollstam> I like your private paste :x
#227 [01:28] <Kealper> oh my
#228 [01:28] <Kealper> lol
#229 [01:28] <xales> :o
#230 [01:28] <aetherian> depends how old he is
#231 [01:28] <mib_03g7mn> Posted.
#232 [01:28] <Kealper> link for us? lol
#233 [01:28] <xales> mib_03g7mn: Need to paste the link it sent you to now
#234 [01:28] <aetherian> ugh, I can't figure out how to format the darn hard drive
#235 [01:28] <Kealper> .set mode mollstam +o
#236 [01:29] <aetherian> :o
#237 [01:29] * aetherian slaps mollstam
#237 [01:29] <xales> can I unset stuff? :o
#238 [01:29] <Portality> can someone possibly help a noob implement the dokus rpg texture pack?
#239 [01:29] <xales> .set kealperiscool no
#240 [01:29] <Kealper> uhh...depends what you set
#241 [01:29] <aetherian> mollstam: /mode #minecrafthelp +b *!*@*
#242 [01:29] <aetherian> do it
#243 [01:29] <xales> Portality: Is it a normal texturepack?
#244 [01:29] <xales> !kick aetherian nou
#245 [01:29] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by xales with reason: nou))
#246 [01:30] <Kealper> lol
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#248 [01:30] <aetherian> hurr hurr
#249 [01:30] <Portality> as far as i know. what constitutes 'normal' ?
#250 [01:30] <Kealper> uhm....is it a .zip?
#251 [01:30] <xales> Can you paste a link to where you found it?
#252 [01:30] <mib_03g7mn> =\ this?
#253 [01:30] <mib_03g7mn> http://pastebin.com/u6nQkQVc
#254 [01:30] <xales> yes
#255 [01:30] <mib_03g7mn> Lol kk
#256 [01:30] <xales> ahhaa found a problem
#257 [01:30] <xales> update Windows
#258 [01:30] <xales> a lot
#259 [01:31] <Portality> yes here http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=25676
#260 [01:31] <xales> you are very behind on Windows Update
#261 [01:31] <xales> lol
#262 [01:31] <aetherian> mib, can you just copypaste that all here?
#263 [01:31] <Kealper> brofist for using Firefox 4 nightly though
#264 [01:31] <mib_03g7mn> >.< This is so embarrassing... all this hard work for that result lol feel like fool.
#265 [01:32] <xales> Portality: Just put the .zip file in the folder that opens when you click the 'open texturepack folder' button in the menu
#266 [01:32] <mib_03g7mn> I dont have the program so I cant xD
#267 [01:32] <Portality> k i'll try
#268 [01:33] <mib_03g7mn> K ima update windows folks thanks alot :D
#269 [01:33] <xales> mib_03g7mn: What program?
#270 [01:33] <xales> oh
#271 [01:33] <xales> nevermind
#272 [01:33] <xales> yeah, update to service pack 3 and all the many many updates you are behind on ._.
#273 [01:33] <Kealper> well, mib_03g7mn stop by again to tell us how it goes once you are done with the crapton of updates lol
#274 [01:33] <xales> over 9000 updates.
#275 [01:33] <Kealper> lol
#276 [01:33] <mib_03g7mn> Lol, oh. My damn auto update thing is off no shit im behind.
#277 [01:34] <aetherian> it'll take at least one hundred years to install them all
#278 [01:34] <Kealper> xD
#279 [01:34] <aetherian> so i herd u liek updateing
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#281 [01:35] <mib_03g7mn> Great, now when i go to turn on my automatic updates it tells me this BS-
#282 [01:35] <nevercast> Hey xales.
#283 [01:35] <nevercast> fogWraith.
#284 [01:35] <Kealper> nevercast: whoever that person was who was trying to work with crap on my chat server...they're ip banned now...
#285 [01:36] <nevercast> Kealper, Meh that's fine :P
#286 [01:36] <Kealper> he found out how to make a send message function....and found the "a" key
#287 [01:36] <nevercast> Kealper, They'll bitch. I'll ignore.
#288 [01:36] <nevercast> Kealper, Uhh okay?
#289 [01:36] <Kealper> spamed the shit out of the chat
#290 [01:36] <nevercast> Oh.
#291 [01:36] <aetherian> epic win
#292 [01:36] <nevercast> Heh.. Noob.
#293 [01:37] <Kealper> just like 200 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa per message, and a ton of messages :/
#294 [01:37] <aetherian> ha
#295 [01:37] <aetherian> ha
#296 [01:37] <aetherian> ha
#297 [01:37] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
#298 [01:37] <Kealper> nub
#299 [01:37] <nevercast> ha!
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#301 [01:37] <aetherian> is what I have tot say to that
#302 [01:37] <nevercast> Kealper, Sounds like a nub dos attempt lol.
#303 [01:37] * xales kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Actually, you get one minute ban or that D:)
#304 [01:37] <nevercast> AHahaha
#305 [01:37] <Kealper> yeah, it was pretty weak, i've already tried taking out that server
#306 [01:38] <nevercast> *Shrugs*
#307 [01:38] <nevercast> Trolls will troll.
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#309 [01:38] <nevercast> AutoJoin?
#310 [01:38] <Kealper> indeed....assuming that was your aquaintance, i don't mind if he makes a chat client for it, but it is a bit annoying when his first attempt at it is a spambot -.-
#311 [01:39] <Kealper> and he was probably just pressing up+enter a ton until it let him in again
#312 [01:39] <nevercast> Yeah that's why I asked what aetherian used.. Because I use the up+enter method lol.
#313 [01:39] <nevercast> Kealper, I'll probably make a .NET library for your chat protocol like I said.
#314 [01:39] <nevercast> Just for the hell of it.
#315 [01:39] <Kealper> lol
#316 [01:39] <GV> Really.. don't spam in here. Kealper and xales won't hesitate to use an akill if they need it.
#317 [01:40] <GV> er, akick
#318 [01:40] <GV> damn my ircops mentality.
#319 [01:40] <nevercast> Lol
#320 [01:40] <nevercast> Z-Line TEH SPAMMAH
#321 [01:40] <Kealper> akick? that is not harsh enough...that lets them rejoin for half a sec
#322 [01:40] <GV> Pfft
#323 [01:41] <xales> nope
#324 [01:41] <xales> it doesn't
#325 [01:41] <xales> when you ENFORCE it adds a ban
#326 [01:41] * nevercast noms on a slice of ham while waiting for Virtual Box to start.
#326 [01:41] <Kealper> oh
#327 [01:41] <Kealper> i've never used an akick before, typing /kb and tabing the name is far quicker :/
#328 [01:41] * Sirrush [Sirrush@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#329 [01:42] <nevercast> ^ What Kealper said
#330 [01:42] <GV> alias for /cs akick add
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#332 [01:46] * nevercast loads up a library of Dubstep, Opens a can of Coke and begins programming.
#332 [01:46] <aetherian> kelly, yes, upenter ftw
#333 [01:46] <aetherian> slashmeawayforalittle
#334 [01:46] * Kealper plays the Wait For The Drop album
#334 [01:47] <Kealper> albums*
#335 [01:47] <nevercast> aetherian, Why do you call Kealper, Kelly.
#336 [01:47] <nevercast> Kealper, This is Dubstep Vol 2 and 3, Mt Eden Dubstep Album, MOS: The Sound of Dubstep
#337 [01:47] <nevercast> Kealper, Plus some mixes from Soundcloud
#338 [01:48] <Kealper> i might have Dubstep vol 2, and Mt Eden Dubstep, idk about the others though
#339 [01:48] <nevercast> I'd be impressed if you had Mt Eden.
#340 [01:48] <nevercast> I didn't know Jesse was International.
#341 [01:48] <Kealper> fairly positive i have it, lemme check my library
#342 [01:49] * GV yawns and launches Space Empires III, sets world to large, technological costs to high, low starting money.
#342 [01:49] <Kealper> oh, no, just one song from it :/
#343 [01:49] <GV> See you in a few years..
#344 [01:49] <nevercast> Kealper, Omen, Daniel, Leone?
#345 [01:49] <Kealper> Leone
#346 [01:49] <nevercast> Everyone has that track.
#347 [01:49] <Kealper> GV: ahh, the joys of RTS games
#348 [01:50] <Kealper> reminds me of Sins of a Solar Empire....lord even a small system could take HOURS on that game
#349 [01:50] <GV> SEIII is my fallback game, I could spend months on a game alone
#350 [01:50] <GV> I'll come back to it every few years
#351 [01:50] <Kealper> lol
#352 [01:51] <nevercast> Hmm
#353 [01:51] <xales> Kealper: You'll hate me for this, but you should make an AutoIt version of PyPy
#354 [01:51] <nevercast> Now to finish up my Tag Creator Form.
#355 [01:51] <GV> The crap is PyPy?
#356 [01:51] <nevercast> xales, Define: PypY
#357 [01:51] <GV> !wiki pypy
#358 [01:51] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PyPy
#359 [01:51] <xales> PyPy is a Python interpreter written in python
#360 [01:51] <GreyBot> PyPy is a self-hosting interpreter for the Python programming language.
#361 [01:51] <nevercast> syncronize(shiftKey)
#362 [01:51] <nevercast> LOL
#363 [01:51] * GV blinks
#363 [01:52] * nevercast slaps xales for bringing such thing into topic
#363 [01:52] * fogWork [fogWork@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#364 [01:52] <nevercast> Hey fogWork
#365 [01:52] <fogWork> Hai
#366 [01:52] <nevercast> FUCK
#367 [01:52] <fogWork> I forgot to start teamviewer before I left :|
#368 [01:52] * nevercast just dropped his dinner on him.
#368 [01:52] <Kealper> wait...what? PyPy? that's awesome lol
#369 [01:52] <nevercast> fogWork, I hate forgetting to fire up TV.
#370 [01:52] <fogWork> ;O
#371 [01:52] <GV> wait
#372 [01:53] * GV whistles innocently
#372 [01:53] <Kealper> LOL
#373 [01:53] <nevercast> Lol..
#374 [01:53] <Kealper> i didn't even notice that
#375 [01:53] * nevercast pretends he didn't see it
#375 [01:53] <Kealper> .set mode fogWork +v
#376 [01:53] <nevercast> He is voice.
#377 [01:53] <Kealper> that also sets autovoice
#378 [01:53] <GV> damn this old version of hydrairc
#379 [01:54] <GV> doesn't have channel tab-autocomplete
#380 [01:54] <nevercast> wow
#381 [01:54] <nevercast> Good luck with that on Freenode
#382 [01:54] <GV> Bleh, dec 2008..
#383 [01:54] * GV looks for a new version
#383 [01:54] <nevercast> [Tab] **Loads list of OVER 9000 channel names**
#384 [01:55] <GV> Pfft, no. I mean, "/mode #<tab>" doesn't work
#385 [01:55] <GV> Only a stupid IRC client would do your way
#386 [01:56] <nevercast> Lol ahh
#387 [01:57] <nevercast> I thought you meant like
#388 [01:57] <fogWork> Oh, I forgot to auth
#389 [01:57] * Wnxnexmilitis [Wnxnexmilitis@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#390 [01:57] <nevercast> /join #<tab>
#391 [01:57] <GV> No way.. this is the latest version of hydrairc... this is crap
#392 [01:57] <nevercast> XChat, GV?
#393 [01:57] <nevercast> /mode #MineCraftHelp
#394 [01:57] <nevercast> It works in xChat
#395 [01:57] * Sirrush [Sirrush@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#396 [01:57] <GV> I just want something simple that I can fire up on a laptop when I just need a simple IRC client, with no install
#397 [01:58] * fogWork [fogWork@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#398 [01:58] * fogWork shakes fist
#398 [01:58] * GV snerks
#398 [01:58] <nevercast> GV, Windows or Linux?
#399 [01:58] <GV> Windows
#400 [01:58] <nevercast> Problem one..
#401 [01:58] <nevercast> Okay one sec
#402 [01:59] <Kealper> GV: irssi
#403 [01:59] <nevercast> GV, http://www.messoo.com/xchat-wdk-portable-for-windows/
#404 [01:59] <GV> I mean, I can Teamviewer to my main IRC computer at home, but that just requires effort and resources I'd rather dedicate to other stuff
#405 [01:59] <Kealper> all you need is access to an ssh client and you're good to go
#406 [01:59] <GV> Hmm
#407 [01:59] <nevercast> Like PuTTY
#408 [01:59] <nevercast> But don't do that. Get http://www.messoo.com/xchat-wdk-portable-for-windows/
#409 [01:59] <Kealper> and i'm sure xales can set you up with an account on his server
#410 [01:59] <GV> Meh
#411 [02:00] <Kealper> i would do that on mine but it's not my server to lend :/
#412 [02:00] <GV> I'd rather not go through proxying through other servers if I don't have to
#413 [02:00] <Wnxnexmilitis> Hey guys, it seems that when i try to log in on the minecraft website my account dosent work, and also when i try to go to http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp and enter my account name or any of my emails it responds Couldn't find that user. i also bought premium. does anyone know how to fix this?
#414 [02:00] <nevercast> "The latest version XChat-WDK 1468 does not contain any adware or spyware"
#415 [02:00] <nevercast> Lol did it contain spyware earlier?
#416 [02:00] <relsqui> Wnxnexmilitis: can you find any of the emails you received when you bought the game?
#417 [02:00] <Wnxnexmilitis> yes
#418 [02:00] <relsqui> Wnxnexmilitis: that would tell you the username it thinks you have
#419 [02:00] <Wnxnexmilitis> i have my paypal one
#420 [02:00] <Wnxnexmilitis> not the minecraft one
#421 [02:00] <relsqui> oh, that won't.
#422 [02:01] <GV> nevercast - I'll try it out, thanks.
#423 [02:01] * Fuzzmz [Fuzzmz@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#424 [02:01] <xales> Wnxnexmilitis: Email daniel@mojang.com and include your paypal transaction ID as well as when you bought it
#425 [02:02] <Wnxnexmilitis> ok
#426 [02:03] <GV> Poor Daniel...
#427 [02:03] <Kealper> lol
#428 [02:03] <nevercast> GV, welcome.
#429 [02:04] <Wnxnexmilitis> thank you
#430 [02:04] * xales is going to bed. 2am aleady :(
#430 [02:04] <Kealper> :/
#431 [02:05] <Kealper> cya xales
#432 [02:05] <nevercast> Night xales
#433 [02:05] * fogWork [fogWork@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#434 [02:06] <fogWork> Ah
#435 [02:07] <GV> I sense a netsplit?
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#437 [02:07] * Sirrush [Sirrush@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#438 [02:07] <Kealper> hmm...is it one that you can feel in your bones?
#439 [02:07] <GV> Perhaps
#440 [02:08] <Kealper> crap....means it might be imminant
#441 [02:08] <fogWork> Feels good being on a real client
#442 [02:08] * GreyVulpine_ [GreyVulpine_@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#443 [02:08] <Kealper> lol
#444 [02:08] <Kealper> ugh
#445 [02:09] * GV shakes fist at clients demanding "#minecrafthelp" instead of just "minecraft"
#445 [02:09] <Kealper> .set mode fogWork +v
#446 [02:09] <Kealper> aubot?
#447 [02:09] <fogWork> \o/
#448 [02:09] <Kealper> woh laggy
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#450 [02:09] <fogWork> Feels laggy today on ze esper
#451 [02:09] * xales is not lagging \o/
#451 [02:09] <Kealper> yea :/
#452 [02:09] <Sqozza> AuBot hates me.
#453 [02:09] <nevercast> !ping
#454 [02:09] <GreyBot> nevercast Your Ping time was 0.56 Seconds.
#455 [02:09] <nevercast> :)
#456 [02:09] * Tonux [Tonux@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#457 [02:09] * Sqozza glares at #insertsecretchannelhere
#457 [02:10] <Kealper> what'd it do to you?
#458 [02:10] * nevercast hates AuBot
#458 [02:10] <nevercast> :D
#459 [02:10] <nevercast> Hater >.<
#460 [02:10] <Sqozza> Go have a look. :P
#461 [02:10] <Kealper> lol
#462 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> Hah, Aubot loves you
#463 [02:11] <nevercast> Hmm
#464 [02:11] <nevercast> Code needs rewrite and refractor
#465 [02:11] * nevercast goes into Virtual Machine Fullscreen mode.
#465 [02:11] <nevercast> brb
#466 [02:12] <fogWork> GV? O_o
#467 [02:12] <fogWork> On IRC from bathroom / bedroom today? I see two :P
#468 [02:12] * GV snerks
#468 [02:13] <Kealper> lol
#469 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#470 [02:14] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.351 Seconds.
#471 [02:14] <fogWork> !ping
#472 [02:14] <GreyBot> fogWork Your Ping time was 0.631 Seconds.
#473 [02:14] <fogWork> ;_;
#474 [02:14] <Kealper> screen + irssi ftw...i just have an ssh session open on my main and my server (sits in my room) and just reattach it to whatever i need lol
#475 [02:14] <GV> !ping
#476 [02:14] <GreyBot> GV Your Ping time was 0.481 Seconds.
#477 [02:14] <Kealper> !load mod_telnet
#478 [02:15] <SinZ> !check 50.16.203.217
#479 [02:15] <Kealper> how dare you not load mod telnet
#480 [02:15] <Kealper> !load mod_telnet
#481 [02:15] <Kealper> fine, be that way
#482 [02:15] <fogWork> ;P
#483 [02:16] <fogWork> Ah, good old Sweden... two of the biggest actors in the area of phoneplans and crap are looking at ways to prevent "free calls" through such apps as skype and viber
#484 [02:18] * GV [GV@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#485 [02:18] <Kealper> lol
#486 [02:18] * GV [GV@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#487 [02:18] * androidd [androidd@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#488 [02:19] <androidd> :D
#489 [02:20] <nevercast> Anyone here know a good solution for making my Virtual Machines location free?
#490 [02:20] <nevercast> So I can load them up on any computer?
#491 [02:20] <fogWork> Zip them up, download and run? ;)
#492 [02:20] <nevercast> fogWork, That's how it works at course too lol.
#493 [02:20] <nevercast> fogWork, Slow though.
#494 [02:20] <fogWork> Or use the PHP thing for Sun's VM
#495 [02:21] <nevercast> fogWork, Wait wa- ?
#496 [02:21] <fogWork> Access from anywheres with internets!
#497 [02:21] <nevercast> fogWork, I'm using Sun's VM.. It's actually Oracles now
#498 [02:21] * nipper [nipper@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#499 [02:21] <nevercast> fogWork, You has link for this 'php' thing?
#500 [02:21] <fogWork> http://code.google.com/p/phpvirtualbox/
#501 [02:21] <fogWork> Protect it though, through htaccess, or set up whitelisted IP's
#502 [02:23] <nevercast> fogWork, Or make it only mind to a local interface address and cause it to refuse connections outside my subnet :)
#503 [02:23] <nevercast> s/mind/bin/
#504 [02:23] <nevercast> grr. *bind
#505 [02:23] <fogWork> Whichever works ;)
#506 [02:23] <nevercast> derp
#507 [02:23] <nevercast> Lol.
#508 [02:23] <nevercast> Hmm it seems to have a Flash based RDP client
#509 [02:23] <nevercast> That's gross
#510 [02:23] <fogWork> Don't judge them too harshly :P
#511 [02:23] <nevercast> No no I mean it could have been a Java applet
#512 [02:23] <nevercast> Flash, Seriously? No one uses that anymore
#513 [02:24] <fogWork> ;P
#514 [02:25] <nevercast> With all the IT stuff in my room
#515 [02:25] <nevercast> I never know where to put my powerful magnets
#516 [02:25] <nevercast> I'm scared that no matter where I put them. I'll erase something on some device
#517 [02:25] <fogWork> Put them on harddrives
#518 [02:25] <fogWork> Win!
#519 [02:25] <nevercast> LOL
#520 [02:25] <nevercast> PROFIT
#521 [02:26] <fogWork> I opened one of the old 6Gb drives I have laying about
#522 [02:26] <nevercast> Virtual Windows 7 : Base Memory: 1024MB, Video Memory: 16MB
#523 [02:26] <nevercast> That's how I roll.
#524 [02:26] <fogWork> Fingered the arm of that electrical motor and had a look etc.
#525 [02:26] <fogWork> Put it back together, just worked... needing sealed dustfree rooms for that shit? Humbug!
#526 [02:26] <nevercast> Lol.
#527 [02:27] <nevercast> Yeah ae I've heard of people pulling them apart
#528 [02:27] <nevercast> blowing on them or moving shit around
#529 [02:27] <nevercast> reassemble
#530 [02:27] <nevercast> and it resumes working
#531 [02:27] <nevercast> This is in their dust garages or on the kitchen table lol.
#532 [02:27] <fogWork> Yeah ;P
#533 [02:28] <fogWork> I mean, the arm already has this tiny cleanerthing with a magnet for those ninjadiskstars ;)
#534 [02:29] <fogWork> Oh, and on another notice, don't upgrade nvidia drivers through yum - it does not recompile the required modules for the kernel, mismatch = fail X
#535 [02:29] <nevercast> Lol
#536 [02:30] <nevercast> You assume I own a computer that requires nvidia drivers
#537 [02:30] <nevercast> or that I would use linux on anything with an external gfx card
#538 [02:30] <fogWork> Yes? :P
#539 [02:30] <nevercast> *Shakes head*
#540 [02:30] <nevercast> Desktop runs XP Pro.
#541 [02:30] * fogWork feeds it BeOS
#541 [02:31] <fogWork> I purchased BeOS PRO back in the days :|
#542 [02:31] <Kealper> o.o
#543 [02:31] * nevercast cleans some OS that is stuck in windows' teeth
#543 [02:31] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#544 [02:31] <Kealper> that's still around?
#545 [02:31] <nevercast> lol.
#546 [02:31] <fogWork> It's being rewritten or something
#547 [02:31] <Kealper> throw windows 7 on your gaming rig, it runs so nice
#548 [02:31] <fogWork> Haiku
#549 [02:32] <fogWork> But yes, BeOS is still in use today, though mostly by business places that use the slimmed OS for mobile devices
#550 [02:32] <Kealper> oh lol
#551 [02:33] <nevercast> Yeah Windows 7 is the nicest
#552 [02:33] <nevercast> But my Desktop wont run it
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#554 [02:34] <fogWork> Win 7 is nice, but then again, I use linux for some reason
#555 [02:35] <nevercast> So do I
#556 [02:35] <Kealper> i think windows is really starting to get the whole security thing down with windows 7....there is still room for improvements, but it's far better than anything else
#557 [02:35] <nevercast> But not for gaming
#558 [02:35] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#559 [02:35] <Kealper> microsoft*
#560 [02:36] <nevercast> Laptop: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, 1.8ghz Dual Processor, 2GB Ram, Runs Windows 7 and Windows XP Virtually when required
#561 [02:37] * heazky [heazky@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#562 [02:37] <Kealper> like right now my windows server is set up very much like a nix server, with one admin account that has all the privs and a retarted strong password, and all other accounts are just standard users that only have write access to their home folders
#563 [02:37] <nevercast> Desktop: Windows XP Pro SP3, 2Ghz Celeron, 1GB Ram, NVidia 6600GT, IDE Drives ( 40gb Storage )
#564 [02:37] * fogWork points @ fogWraith
#564 [02:37] <fogWork> Fedora 14 x64, quad core 2.3ghz, 8gb ram
#565 [02:37] <Kealper> :o
#566 [02:37] <nevercast> :O
#567 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> That's.. um, wow
#568 [02:37] <nevercast> Say... Can you crack these for me?
#569 [02:37] <Kealper> and what might fogWork be running? lol
#570 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> This machine that hosts my IRC client has kinda the same stats, ish
#571 [02:37] * nevercast hands fogWork some SHA1 hashes
#571 [02:38] <fogWork> This machine? Lets see
#572 [02:38] <fogWork> I stole this one from some employee, not on the mac now... so
#573 [02:38] <Kealper> inb4 2.6ghz single core P4 with 256mb of ram
#574 [02:38] <fogWork> AMD Athlon II X2 215, 2.7Ghz, 2Gb RAM, XP
#575 [02:38] <nevercast> Would you believe that I can get my 2Ghz Celeron, With it's DDR 333mhz Ram and NVidia 6600 to play Crysis on Medium :D
#576 [02:39] <Kealper> oh, better than i thought lol
#577 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> I can believe that
#578 [02:39] <fogWork> Crysis eh? Heard of it :P
#579 [02:39] <nevercast> Heh.
#580 [02:39] <Kealper> i can see that, a 6600 is the min requ for crysis
#581 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor 3000+ with Currently 868 of 1024MB in use - Display System: 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT using a Plug and Play monitor at 1680x1050 32bit color 60Hz refresh
#582 [02:39] <Kealper> Hostname: jodi.businessadvances.com - OS: Linux 2.6.18-164.el5PAE/i686 - CPU: 2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ (2100.051 MHz) - Processes: 141 - Uptime: 408d 1h 38m - Load Average: 0.00 - Memory Usage: 311.98MB/1501.97MB (20.77%) - Disk Usage: 14.02GB/67.24GB (20.85%)
#583 [02:40] <aetherian> ahhh
#584 [02:40] <nevercast> Kealper, Yeah and it really is the Min. Medium graphics means Multiplayer only and don't expect 20fps or higher
#585 [02:40] * fogWork points at fogWraith
#585 [02:40] <fogWork> NVIDIA GeForce GT 240
#586 [02:40] <nevercast> LOL
#587 [02:40] <fogWork> Budget crap
#588 [02:40] <nevercast> Well it does what you need :P
#589 [02:40] <fogWork> It sure does
#590 [02:40] <fogWork> It plays Minecraft & Eve Online just fine :P
#591 [02:40] <nevercast> OMG
#592 [02:40] <nevercast> spam
#593 [02:40] <aetherian> lul
#594 [02:40] <nevercast> please tell me you guys didn't see that
#595 [02:41] <Kealper> my main is a 3.0ghz dual core athlon wiht 6 gigs of ddr2 1066, and a 512mb OCed radeon hd 3850
#596 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Total Storage: 1.59TB Total Used: 1.22TB Total Free: 382GB
#597 [02:41] <nevercast> Good lol.
#598 [02:41] <nevercast> I play Minecraft with my Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
#599 [02:41] <fogWork> GreyVulpine: I have the same CPU on my webserver, the 3000+ is super ;)
#600 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#601 [02:42] <Kealper> mah uptime is awesomerer than everyone else's!
#602 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> I'm surprised this thing is still running after all these years
#603 [02:42] <nevercast> 20:42:02 up 24 min, 1 user, load average: 0.82, 0.81, 0.61
#604 [02:42] <nevercast> lol.
#605 [02:42] <fogWork> So am I
#606 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> the 3000+ is definitely a good chip
#607 [02:42] <fogWork> Got it a month after it was introduced, still runs... stock cooler too
#608 [02:42] <nevercast> Kealper, That's unfair I JUST rebooted before because my Wireless card died
#609 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#610 [02:42] <Kealper> Uptime: 408d 1h 38m
#611 [02:43] <nevercast> wow
#612 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> Oh nice
#613 [02:43] <Kealper> with a load average of 0.00
#614 [02:43] <fogWork> :P
#615 [02:43] <nevercast> My load average is a nice 80% :)
#616 [02:43] <fogWork> fogWraith has a slightly higher load due to the beta testserver
#617 [02:43] <nevercast> Virtualisation ftw
#618 [02:43] <Kealper> that's how you run a linux box :O
#619 [02:44] * nevercast is not in the mood for working on MCEL
#619 [02:44] <fogWork> A load of 4 would be dangerous for little old poor me ;/
#620 [02:45] <nevercast> Kealper. Specs for your protocol please?
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#622 [02:45] <Kealper> big link, 1 sec
#623 [02:46] <Kealper> http://kchat.kealper.com/sourcecode/Simple%20Chat%20Protocol%20Documentation%20and%20Specification.txt
#624 [02:46] <nevercast> Thanks
#625 [02:46] * nevercast starts up Internet Explorer 7 and pastes
#625 [02:46] <Kealper> ick
#626 [02:46] * fogWork rageclicks for justice
#626 [02:46] <Kealper> lol
#627 [02:46] <fogWork> Piper? ;O
#628 [02:47] * nevercast closes error messages that IE has presented and tries to visit link
#628 [02:47] <Kealper> my name is super scottish lol
#629 [02:47] <fogWork> ;)
#630 [02:47] <nevercast> Ken?
#631 [02:47] <nevercast> Ken is not scottish..
#632 [02:47] <Kealper> Kenneth Piper
#633 [02:47] <nevercast> Ahh
#634 [02:47] <nevercast> ^_^
#635 [02:47] <Kealper> SUUUPER scotish
#636 [02:47] <nevercast> Scratch that
#637 [02:47] <nevercast> It's IE8
#638 [02:47] <nevercast> How do I know
#639 [02:47] <nevercast> Because I still can't visit the link because I have to close a WELCOME TO IE8 page.
#640 [02:47] <Kealper> lol
#641 [02:48] <nevercast> Which MSN Site are you looking for?
#642 [02:48] <nevercast> NONE OF THEM!! FUCK OFF
#643 [02:48] <Kealper> all that i ask is that you just don't go giving that link out to everyone and their brother :/
#644 [02:48] <nevercast> *nods in agreement*
#645 [02:48] <Kealper> i don't feel like having to deal with more scriptkiddies figuring out how to send spam to my live chat server :/
#646 [02:49] <fogWork> So, are you sending that shit in cleartext?
#647 [02:49] <Kealper> it's called Simple Chat Protocol for a reason
#648 [02:49] <fogWork> :|
#649 [02:49] <Kealper> it was made so noobs can learn sockets
#650 [02:49] <nevercast> But I already know sockets
#651 [02:49] <nevercast> Should I continue?
#652 [02:49] <Kealper> because i had a few people wanting to know how to do sockets, so i made this
#653 [02:49] <fogWork> So, I can get on, send a lolcode and the parser thinks it's the fun packets, ending in tears? :P
#654 [02:49] <Kealper> and i made it really epic so i decided to keep it and use it for my minecraft server chat lol
#655 [02:50] <nevercast> lol.
#656 [02:50] <Kealper> no, it's quite hardened lol
#657 [02:50] <fogWork> Are you sure? :P
#658 [02:50] <Kealper> it'll just ignore it if it's not a valid packet
#659 [02:50] <nevercast> It'll even kill the connection if you don't talk super fast when connecting
#660 [02:50] <fogWork> If I send valid "packets" in a string?
#661 [02:50] <Kealper> uhm, you are free test, as long as you don't point that beast of your internet at my door lol
#662 [02:50] <nevercast> You have to be like.. Connect: OHEY!!
#663 [02:51] <nevercast> I might write this in Mono.
#664 [02:51] <fogWork> Haha, my internets... forgot about that ;P
#665 [02:51] <nevercast> Saves Alt-Tabbing between Linux and Windows
#666 [02:51] <nevercast> fogWork, What's your upload?
#667 [02:51] <fogWork> 100mbit
#668 [02:51] <nevercast> :O
#669 [02:51] <Kealper> exactly lol
#670 [02:51] <nevercast> Jizz-Worthy Uploadz
#671 [02:52] <Kealper> his isp will be offering 1gbit download shortly :<
#672 [02:52] <fogWork> I thought so to when I got it, time passed and now it's just... meh :P
#673 [02:52] * nevercast quickly goes and rents a 100mbit vps so we can have an upload deathmatch
#673 [02:52] <fogWork> I would hate to downgrade though
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#675 [02:52] <fogWork> ;D
#676 [02:52] <Kealper> lol
#677 [02:52] <aetherian> omigoddammit
#678 [02:52] <nevercast> aetherian, ?
#679 [02:53] <aetherian> my ocd can't let a partition be 49.99 gb... time to do that all over again
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#681 [02:53] <Kealper> lol
#682 [02:53] <fogWork> :|
#683 [02:54] <fogWork> I had to rename my drives and just not look at the sizes
#684 [02:54] * fogWork feels aetherian's pain
#684 [02:54] <aetherian> I see the size whenever I open up the explorer thing ;_;
#685 [02:55] <nevercast> Kealper, Does your middle name start with a?
#686 [02:55] <aetherian> but setting my data partition to shrink 51200 mb doesn't work...
#687 [02:55] <nevercast> Like Al or Alex?
#688 [02:55] <Kealper> yes, you stalker
#689 [02:55] <nevercast> :)
#690 [02:55] <Kealper> and it's not Al
#691 [02:55] <Kealper> close
#692 [02:55] <aetherian> ali?
#693 [02:55] <nevercast> LOl
#694 [02:55] <Kealper> ali is a chick's name
#695 [02:55] <nevercast> ... yeah?
#696 [02:55] <aetherian> not neccesarily...
#697 [02:55] <nevercast> Your point?
#698 [02:55] <nevercast> :P
#699 [02:55] <fogWork> aetherian: Nautilus just tells me "this one is this size and that one is that... because that's what you named them"
#700 [02:55] <aetherian> o.o
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#702 [02:56] <nevercast> Kealper, I wrote your name into my chat program under protocol credits
#703 [02:56] * aetherian is just gonna take advantage of the fact that the thing rounds, and set it to transfer a couple megs over.
#703 [02:56] <fogWork> Nautilus does however tell me how much space is left on each mount, but I can live with that
#704 [02:56] <Kealper> just something like 'Ken "Kealper" Piper' would do, no need for the niddle name and all lol
#705 [02:56] <nevercast> " Ken 'Kealper' Piper ", Then was like.. Ke-al-per... Ken Piper.. Hmm. What's the AL, Middle name?
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#707 [02:57] <Kealper> nevercast: clever one, arn't you?
#708 [02:57] <aetherian> KEllY
#709 [02:57] <Kealper> that's actually where my nick comes from :P
#710 [02:57] <nevercast> Yes lol.
#711 [02:57] <Kealper> middle name is Alan
#712 [02:57] <nevercast> I figured that :P
#713 [02:57] <nevercast> Why didn't I think of Alan
#714 [02:57] <nevercast> There we have it
#715 [02:57] <aetherian> lovely
#716 [02:57] <nevercast> But I'll keep it has Ken 'Kealper' Piper
#717 [02:57] <Kealper> please lol
#718 [02:57] <aetherian> ken alan piper
#719 [02:57] <nevercast> :)
#720 [02:57] <nevercast> Kenneith
#721 [02:57] <fogWork> Ken Aiur Piper
#722 [02:57] <aetherian> time to plug that into that one mit program
#723 [02:57] <Kealper> aiur?
#724 [02:58] <aetherian> :)
#725 [02:58] <fogWork> Yes
#726 [02:58] <fogWork> KNOW YOUR STARCRAFT
#727 [02:58] <nevercast> lol.
#728 [02:58] <Kealper> :o
#729 [02:58] <nevercast> Starcraft 2 I hope
#730 [02:58] * fogWork clears throat
#730 [02:58] <fogWork> I haven't finished SC2 yet, but it's damn good
#731 [02:58] <aetherian> crud
#732 [02:59] <nevercast> fogWork, I don't have the game at all. But it gets talked a lot about at course and I've seen it played at lans
#733 [02:59] <aetherian> I just turned the recovery partition things that came with this win7 computer but are hidden into primary partitions
#734 [02:59] <nevercast> We have massive lans of like just under 100 people every few weeks
#735 [02:59] <aetherian> and my OS install, and Data are just simple volumes
#736 [02:59] <fogWork> nevercast: I can't compete in those games tbh, I'm too old
#737 [03:00] <aetherian> >.>
#738 [03:00] <fogWork> You need to be a spastic 13 year old asian
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#741 [03:00] <nevercast> Haha
#742 [03:00] <nevercast> Yeah man when they get micro'ing
#743 [03:00] <nevercast> it scares me
#744 [03:01] <nevercast> Not only do they click like a spastic
#745 [03:01] <nevercast> they mashing out hotkeys like a freak
#746 [03:01] <fogWork> It's scary :|
#747 [03:01] <nevercast> very
#748 [03:01] <nevercast> Eugh..
#749 [03:01] <nevercast> Know what I hate about Programming?
#750 [03:01] <fogWork> Code?
#751 [03:01] <nevercast> For every program there must normally be an interface
#752 [03:01] <nevercast> No I love Code
#753 [03:01] <nevercast> I had Interfaces
#754 [03:01] <nevercast> *hate
#755 [03:02] <fogWork> Well derp, me too
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#757 [03:02] <nevercast> Tell me you want me to program you a game server
#758 [03:02] <nevercast> sure no problem
#759 [03:02] <nevercast> RCON, yeah I guess
#760 [03:02] <nevercast> You want a manager and client? Get fucked!
#761 [03:02] <nevercast> Leave the UI to someone that likes that shit.
#762 [03:03] <aetherian> anyone here good with win7 willing to help me fix my computer =\
#763 [03:03] <Draglems1> Wow, I still have this up?
#764 [03:03] <fogWork> Same with me and PHP, sure, would be nice with an INTERFACE for the administrative stuff, but the front is all I really bother with
#765 [03:03] <Draglems1> anyway, got a question C:
#766 [03:03] <Draglems1> Best way to farm cows? <_<
#767 [03:03] <Draglems1> to get alot of leather?
#768 [03:03] <Draglems1> cause I keep falling from ledges C:
#769 [03:03] <nevercast> ...
#770 [03:03] <nevercast> Lol
#771 [03:03] <nevercast> Hold Shift
#772 [03:03] <Kealper> rawr? dang you people talked a lot while i was looking away
#773 [03:03] <nevercast> You can't fall off when sneaking
#774 [03:03] <Kealper> holy shit it's 3am
#775 [03:03] <Draglems1> bur..
#776 [03:03] <Draglems1> But*
#777 [03:03] <Draglems1> I want to go onto another ledge underneath it
#778 [03:04] <nevercast> then walk forward
#779 [03:04] <nevercast> and stop
#780 [03:04] <Draglems1> but i sometimes hold W a little too long or something
#781 [03:04] <fogWork> Plant cowseeds, give them plenty of sun and water?
#782 [03:04] <fogWork> Don't know :(
#783 [03:04] <nevercast> LOL
#784 [03:04] <nevercast> then let go!
#785 [03:04] <aetherian> I gotta go, trying to fix the damn bits
#786 [03:04] <Draglems1> um
#787 [03:04] <nevercast> I don't think we can help you with your motor skills
#788 [03:04] <Draglems1> Iron ore = Ignot?
#789 [03:04] <nevercast> Iron ore + Furnace = Ignot
#790 [03:04] <Draglems1> THANK YOU
#791 [03:04] <GV> Ingot*
#792 [03:04] <nevercast> Welcome :)
#793 [03:04] <Draglems1> i was like..
#794 [03:04] <Draglems1> "...What?"
#795 [03:04] <nevercast> GV, What you said :)
#796 [03:04] <Draglems1> "..Taps foot.. Hmm.."
#797 [03:04] <fogWork> Haha
#798 [03:05] <fogWork> "ignot"... reminds me of Ultima Online
#799 [03:05] <nevercast> lol.
#800 [03:05] <nevercast> duznot!
#801 [03:05] <nevercast> ... bad puin
#802 [03:05] <fogWork> Everyone buying, selling, trading, creating ignots
#803 [03:05] <nevercast> ingots
#804 [03:05] <fogWork> iron ignots, bronze ignots
#805 [03:05] <Draglems1> o f-
#806 [03:05] <Draglems1> i'm in a underground tunnel X_X
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#808 [03:05] <nevercast> Congratulations Draglems1
#809 [03:05] <Draglems1> Eh?
#810 [03:06] <nevercast> SAY!!
#811 [03:06] <nevercast> How difficult is it to get my Single Player map in Multiplayer?
#812 [03:06] <nevercast> Oh my gosh, I just remembered, the last 3 nights I've been in this Irc
#813 [03:06] <fogWork> Correcting a player saying ignots instead of ingots would mean 1 of two things... be stalked and talked foul to because they're chickenshits... or be gangraped outside the safe borders
#814 [03:06] <nevercast> and I've not played Minecraft once in that time
#815 [03:06] <nevercast> MC time!!
#816 [03:06] <fogWork> ;O
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#818 [03:07] <nevercast> fogWork, Can I choose which one?
#819 [03:07] <fogWork> It's random :P
#820 [03:07] <fogWork> No picking!
#821 [03:07] <nevercast> srand(const)
#822 [03:07] <nevercast> Heh! no random now nub
#823 [03:07] <nevercast> Right..
#824 [03:07] <Kealper> what's srand do? generate a number or set the seed value for the next generation?
#825 [03:07] <fogWork> FFFFFFUUUUUU-
#826 [03:08] <nevercast> Kealper, Sets Seed
#827 [03:08] <nevercast> Kealper, rand returns random
#828 [03:08] <Kealper> lol, autoit's is SRandom()
#829 [03:08] <Kealper> and Random() for generating
#830 [03:08] <nevercast> Random randomGenerator = new Random(123213L);
#831 [03:08] <nevercast> randomGenerator.Next(Min, Max);
#832 [03:08] <fogWork> Please, no more random ;_;
#833 [03:09] <fogWork> Reminds me of VB6
#834 [03:09] <Kealper> moar random!
#835 [03:09] <fogWork> Where random WAS NOT RANDOM!
#836 [03:09] <nevercast> LOL
#837 [03:09] <nevercast> Dude
#838 [03:09] <nevercast> There is no real Random in computing
#839 [03:09] <nevercast> It's always pseudo
#840 [03:09] * fogWork covers eyes
#840 [03:09] <Kealper> SRandom(TimerInit()) ;Generate seed value from timestamp
#841 [03:09] <nevercast> !wiki pseduo
#842 [03:09] <nevercast> fail
#843 [03:09] <Kealper> Random(1, 100000, 1)
#844 [03:09] <nevercast> !wiki pseudo
#845 [03:09] <nevercast> FAIL AGAIN.. fml
#846 [03:09] <fogWork> I'm not seeing anything! Nope!
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#848 [03:09] <Kealper> it;s not in here
#849 [03:09] <Draglems1> Are buckets one use?
#850 [03:09] <nevercast> !wiki pseudo random
#851 [03:10] <nevercast> !wiki random
#852 [03:10] <Draglems1> or can you keep refilling?
#853 [03:10] <nevercast> ... It's searching minecraft wiki isn't it
#854 [03:10] <Kealper> Draglems1: depends, what are you using them for?
#855 [03:10] <Draglems1> water.
#856 [03:10] <nevercast> !wiki Dirt
#857 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> greybot died
#858 [03:10] <nevercast> Wait.. yeah lol.
#859 [03:10] <Kealper> if you are just dumping it aroud, it's infinate
#860 [03:10] <nevercast> I was like, Where's the bot
#861 [03:10] <Draglems1> but..?
#862 [03:10] <Draglems1> whats the but?
#863 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, greybot's having some difficulties right now
#864 [03:10] <nevercast> That's okay
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#866 [03:10] <nevercast> I forgive it
#867 [03:11] <aetherian> oh my god
#868 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> I blame 1.2 gigs of logs
#869 [03:11] <Kealper> o.o
#870 [03:11] <nevercast> Know what, I think I'm seriously A D D
#871 [03:11] <aetherian> I... I can't live with this.
#872 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> I've had greybot for a while
#873 [03:11] <nevercast> My Attention spam is useless
#874 [03:11] <fogWork> Greyboat isn't rotating?
#875 [03:11] <fogWork> Bot*
#876 [03:11] <Kealper> boat lol
#877 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> Greybot keeps EVERTHING
#878 [03:11] <aetherian> 50.0 GB free of 50.1 GB... argh
#879 [03:11] * fogWork needs more coffee
#879 [03:11] <aetherian> lolgreyboat
#880 [03:11] <nevercast> LOL
#881 [03:11] <fogWork> Shut your faces >_>
#882 [03:11] <AndrewPH> I love copying a multi-thousand-directory world file.
#883 [03:11] <Kealper> aubot only keeps this channel :/
#884 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> Better than my 6 gigs of an iRC network's status log
#885 [03:12] <AndrewPH> mollstam, you should make it create 4 additional files per directory.
#886 [03:12] <AndrewPH> It would be the bomb.
#887 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> I had +cF on
#888 [03:12] <aetherian> fogwork: it'll take you across the I-R-SEA
#889 [03:12] <nevercast> AndrewPH, Archive -> Copy -> Extract
#890 [03:12] <aetherian> :O
#891 [03:12] <Kealper> lol AndrewPH
#892 [03:12] <Draglems1> What is the diffrence between coal and charcoal?
#893 [03:12] <fogWork> Lol aetherian
#894 [03:12] <Kealper> Draglems1: nothing much
#895 [03:12] <Kealper> they work the same
#896 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> One is naturally found in rocks, one is produced from wood
#897 [03:12] <nevercast> Draglems1, All this is on the wiki
#898 [03:12] <nevercast> Draglems1, Seriously :)
#899 [03:12] <AndrewPH> One is manly and one is girly.
#900 [03:12] <Draglems1> i'd check the wiki but
#901 [03:12] <Draglems1> my internet laggs xD
#902 [03:12] <fogWork> GreyVulpine: I'll trade you your IRC logs for my Apache logs... three domains worth accumulated over a few years :P
#903 [03:12] <Draglems1> so i have to go TO the wiki
#904 [03:13] <nevercast> Draglems1, Then don't expect Minecraft Multiplayer
#905 [03:13] <fogWork> The other domains aren't worthy enough in size
#906 [03:13] <Draglems1> I don't play Multiiplayer
#907 [03:13] <Kealper> fogWork: what is your domain's apache log size?
#908 [03:13] <Kealper> approximately
#909 [03:13] * Kealper checks his
#909 [03:13] <fogWork> Lets see... spanning back to 2006 and earlier I believe
#910 [03:13] * fogWork looks
#910 [03:14] <Kealper> oh, mine goes back to 2008
#911 [03:14] <Kealper> and it's a whole 131mb lol
#912 [03:14] <nevercast> LOL
#913 [03:14] * nevercast is playing minecraft
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#914 [03:14] <aetherian> aarrghhhh
#915 [03:15] <fogWork> Well, a few gigs ;/
#916 [03:15] <Draglems1> Is ther anyway to make furnace burn/craft faster?
#917 [03:15] <aetherian> partitioning is breaking my heart
#918 [03:15] <Kealper> no Draglems1
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#920 [03:15] <Draglems1> fml
#921 [03:15] <aetherian> my D:\ drive is split into a big section, and two very small sections D:
#922 [03:15] <AndrewPH> lol apache
#923 [03:15] <Kaikz> ^
#924 [03:16] * fogWork installs IIS 6 on AndrewPH's & Kaikz's machines
#924 [03:16] <Kealper> i made a log parser for mine that separates it into folders by year/month and then puts each month into a day
#925 [03:16] <AndrewPH> lol iis
#926 [03:16] <AndrewPH> lighttpd master race
#927 [03:16] * GreyVulpine crosses fingers
#927 [03:16] <fogWork> Nginx owns lighty any day ;P
#928 [03:16] <Kealper> it parses at about (up to) 20k lines/sec :o
#929 [03:16] <AG_Clinton> Cherokee > *
#930 [03:16] <AndrewPH> fogWork, ask yourself which one works under openvz.
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#932 [03:17] <fogWork> Unfamiliar with openvz, so can't say
#933 [03:17] <fogWork> And no interest, don't enlighten me ;P
#934 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - I'm in charge of a network, with +cF mode on, so I see every services command echoed to my console
#935 [03:17] <Kaikz> fogWork: ):
#936 [03:17] <Kealper> oh gosh lol
#937 [03:17] <fogWork> Rargh! Coffeetime!
#938 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Along with being in a #services channel
#939 [03:17] <Kaikz> WINBLOWS
#940 [03:18] * Kaikz runs Ubuntu and lighttpd :/
#940 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> So, um, 6 gigs of logs, in about 8-10 years of connections
#941 [03:18] <Kealper> wow lol
#942 [03:18] <Kaikz> rm -rf Logs
#943 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, I like my logs, thanks.
#944 [03:18] <nevercast> Woo
#945 [03:18] <Kaikz> :D
#946 [03:18] <nevercast> I just overclocked my 2ghz celeron
#947 [03:18] <nevercast> to 2.8
#948 [03:19] <nevercast> I'm impressed with myself :)
#949 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> You're not running stock cooling, right?
#950 [03:19] <nevercast> My Desktop has one fan only
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#952 [03:19] <nevercast> it's a 80mm fan on top of a stock heatsink
#953 [03:19] * GreyVulpine blinks
#953 [03:19] * Kealper reparses his apache logs
#953 [03:20] <aetherian> I finally got a partition (somewhat) ready to install linux onto
#954 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> Would you...
#955 [03:20] <aetherian> :D
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#957 [03:20] * GreyVulpine stabs greybot
#957 [03:20] <aetherian> !ping
#958 [03:20] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.501 Seconds.
#959 [03:20] <aetherian> my computer needs more coffee
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#961 [03:20] <aetherian> bzzt
#962 [03:20] <Kaikz> !ping
#963 [03:20] <GreyBot> Kaikz Your Ping time was 0.711 Seconds.
#964 [03:20] * Kaikz downloads more RAM
#964 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Okay, hopefully just moving the logs out will fix this
#965 [03:21] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Do you think there will be any temp problems?
#966 [03:21] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, I over clocked my Ram too.. will do my graphics card in a sec :D
#967 [03:21] * aetherian hugs aubot
#967 [03:21] <aetherian> <3
#968 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> I honestly couldn't tell you, I don't know your setup, bt you're running a risk by depending on your stock cooling, for such a hop in CPU overclocking
#969 [03:22] <aetherian> but if it's over the clock, you can't see the time D:
#970 [03:22] <nevercast> ... lol that sounded like a bot thing to say, aetherian
#971 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#972 [03:22] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.45 Seconds.
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#974 [03:22] <aetherian> !ping
#975 [03:22] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.501 Seconds.
#976 [03:22] <lukegb> !ping
#977 [03:22] <aetherian> uh...
#978 [03:22] <GreyBot> lukegb Your Ping time was 1.111 Seconds.
#979 [03:23] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, I'll grab cpuz and let you know my temp.. If my cpu has a sensor
#980 [03:23] <aetherian> greybot must be slow
#981 [03:23] <lukegb> ;D
#982 [03:23] <aetherian> that's it
#983 [03:23] <Draglems1> !ping
#984 [03:23] <GreyBot> Draglems1 Your Ping time was 1.513 Seconds.
#985 [03:23] <Draglems1> .
#986 [03:23] <aetherian> !ping
#987 [03:23] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.5 Seconds.
#988 [03:23] <aetherian> ah, clean numbers
#989 [03:24] <aetherian> <333
#990 [03:24] <aetherian> ... stupid bot
#991 [03:24] <aetherian> awww
#992 [03:24] <aetherian> no fun
#993 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> I turned grey's responses off
#994 [03:24] <mollstam> !ping
#995 [03:24] * Sirrush [Sirrush@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#996 [03:24] <GreyBot> mollstam Your Ping time was 2.644 Seconds.
#997 [03:24] <mollstam> ;<
#998 [03:24] <lukegb> mollstam: o.O
#999 [03:25] <lukegb> Slow ping?
#1000 [03:25] <aetherian> I can make my ping really high
#1001 [03:25] <aetherian> I hit over a minute before
#1002 [03:25] * GV facepalms
#1002 [03:25] <aetherian> :D
#1003 [03:25] <mollstam> Too much porn torrents
#1004 [03:25] <nevercast> Wow my graphics card is only 128mb
#1005 [03:25] <aetherian> lul
#1006 [03:25] <nevercast> I thought it was at least twice that
#1007 [03:25] <aetherian> o.o
#1008 [03:25] <GV> aetherian knocked himself offline by DoSing somebody else..
#1009 [03:25] <GV> That's a feat in itsel
#1010 [03:25] <GV> f
#1011 [03:26] <aetherian> I was DoSing a person on my own network, simply using a powerful server as a place to land attacks, purposefully taking down my own internet
#1012 [03:26] <Draglems1> Whats Dosing?
#1013 [03:26] * aetherian has 1gb graphics card
#1013 [03:26] <Draglems1> DoSing*
#1014 [03:26] <nevercast> Draglems1, Google it
#1015 [03:26] <GV> !wiki denial of service
#1016 [03:26] * aetherian has a laptop
#1016 [03:26] <nevercast> Serious!
#1017 [03:26] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack
#1018 [03:26] <GreyBot> A denial-of-service attack (DoS attack) or distributed denial-of-service attack (DDoS attack) is an attempt to make a computer resource unavailable to its intended users. Although the means to carry out, motives for, and targets of a DoS attack may vary, it generally consists of the concerted efforts of a person or people to prevent an Internet site or service from functioning efficiently
#1019 [03:26] <GreyBot> or at
#1020 [03:26] <GreyBot> all, temporarily or indefinitely. Perpetrators of DoS attacks typically target sites or services hosted on high-profile web servers such as banks, credit card payment gateways, and even root nameservers. The term is generally used with regards to computer networks, but is not limited to this field; for example, it is also used in reference to CPU resource management.
#1021 [03:26] <aetherian> aaahhhhh
#1022 [03:26] <GV> holy crap
#1023 [03:26] <aetherian> !wiki internet
#1024 [03:26] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
#1025 [03:26] <GreyBot> The Internet is a global system of interconnected computer networks that use the standard Internet Protocol Suite (TCP/IP) to serve billions of users worldwide. It is a network of networks that consists of millions of private, public, academic, business, and government networks, of local to global scope, that are linked by a broad array of electronic, wireless and optical networking
#1026 [03:26] <GreyBot> technologies.
#1027 [03:26] <GreyBot> The Internet carries a vast range of information resources and services, such as the inter-linked hypertext documents of the World Wide Web (WWW) and the infrastructure to support electronic mail.
#1028 [03:26] <GV> Note to self, don't !wiki that
#1029 [03:27] <Kealper> lol
#1030 [03:27] * aetherian looks for longest wikipedia intro
#1030 [03:27] <aetherian> brb
#1031 [03:27] <Draglems1> !wiki pokemon
#1032 [03:27] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon
#1033 [03:27] <Draglems1> giggle
#1034 [03:27] <GreyBot> Pokémon (ポケモン, Pokemon?, English pronunciation: /ˈpoʊkeɪmɑːn/, POH-kay-mahn) is a media franchise published and owned by the video game company Nintendo and created by Satoshi Tajiri in 1996. Originally released as a pair of interlinkable Game Boy role-playing video games, Pokémon has since become the second most successful and lucrative video game-based media franchise
#1035 [03:27] <GreyBot> in
#1036 [03:27] <GreyBot> the world, behind only Nintendo's own Mario series. Pokémon properties have since been merchandised into anime, manga, trading cards, toys, books, and other media. The franchise celebrated its tenth anniversary in 2006, and as of 28 May 2010 (2010 -05-28)[update], cumulative sales of the video games (including home console versions, such as the "Pikachu" Nintendo 64) have reached more
#1037 [03:27] <GreyBot> than 200 million copies.
#1038 [03:27] <Draglems1> ..Snicker
#1039 [03:27] <Kealper> woohoo...that parser peaked at 15,547 lines/sec
#1040 [03:27] <aetherian> !wiki long-range Wi-Fi
#1041 [03:27] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-range_Wi-Fi
#1042 [03:27] <GreyBot> Long-range Wi-Fi is used for low-cost, unregulated point-to-point connections, as an alternative to cellular networks or satellite links.
#1043 [03:27] <aetherian> so looooong
#1044 [03:28] <GV> Only does the first paragraph
#1045 [03:28] <aetherian> kk, ima do one more
#1046 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> !part
#1047 [03:28] * GreyBot [GreyBot@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#1048 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1049 [03:28] <aetherian> (till I get banned)
#1050 [03:28] <aetherian> aww
#1051 [03:28] <aetherian> I was just going to do one
#1052 [03:28] <aetherian> more
#1053 [03:29] <aetherian> I shall do it once it comes back
#1054 [03:29] <lukegb> aetherian: I was going to make a user sandbox page containing lots of ! commands ;D
#1055 [03:29] <aetherian> I was going to !wiki religion
#1056 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> lukegb - You wouldn't be able to fit all of greybot's commands in it.
#1057 [03:30] <Draglems1> can buckets break?
#1058 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> Even I've forgotten most of greybot's commands.
#1059 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> Draglems1 - Only if you place them in a furnace
#1060 [03:30] <Draglems1> so using them to break blocks doesn't break them?
#1061 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> No
#1062 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> They do not have durability
#1063 [03:30] <lukegb> GreyVulpine: does it ignore itself?
#1064 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> Ignore itself?
#1065 [03:30] <aetherian> grey: permission to do one command when your bot comes back, not the wiki?
#1066 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> What command
#1067 [03:30] <Kealper> ok i think i got a good wiki one
#1068 [03:30] <aetherian> that's a secret
#1069 [03:30] <Kealper> !wiki Thermodynamics
#1070 [03:30] <lukegb> So the bot doesn't eat it's own commands. It shouldn't, should it...
#1071 [03:31] <aetherian> lmao kealper
#1072 [03:31] <Kealper> NOES
#1073 [03:31] <aetherian> he parted it
#1074 [03:31] <Kealper> i just loked up
#1075 [03:31] <Kealper> looked*
#1076 [03:31] * GreyBot [GreyBot@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1077 [03:31] <aetherian> grey: if I do this one command, don't stop it
#1078 [03:31] <aetherian> !uno
#1079 [03:31] <GreyBot> aetherian wants to play Uno! Type join in the channel to join the game. Game will start in 30 seconds
#1080 [03:31] <aetherian> join
#1081 [03:31] <GreyBot> aetherian has been added to the current game
#1082 [03:31] <lukegb> join
#1083 [03:31] <Kealper> that's cheating
#1084 [03:31] <GreyBot> lukegb has been added to the current game
#1085 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Really
#1086 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Really aetherian?
#1087 [03:31] <Kealper> join
#1088 [03:31] <GreyBot> Kealper has been added to the current game
#1089 [03:31] <Kealper> let's do this
#1090 [03:31] <aetherian> lol
#1091 [03:32] <GreyBot> Playing this round: aetherian lukegb Kealper
#1092 [03:32] <lukegb> ;D
#1093 [03:32] <Draglems1> the game.
#1094 [03:32] <aetherian> yes really, grey
#1095 [03:32] <Kealper> ok i'm bored of this already
#1096 [03:32] <Draglems1> !Wiki The_game
#1097 [03:32] * lukegb hurries greybot up
#1097 [03:32] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game
#1098 [03:32] <GreyBot> The Game may refer to:
#1099 [03:32] <aetherian> how do I play...
#1100 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> guess what
#1101 [03:32] <aetherian> 1
#1102 [03:32] <Draglems1> ...ff
#1103 [03:32] <aetherian> err
#1104 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> +c is on in the channel
#1105 [03:32] <aetherian> !uno off
#1106 [03:32] <GreyBot> An Uno game is already active! Type !unoend to end the game
#1107 [03:32] <aetherian> !unoend
#1108 [03:32] <lukegb> !unoend
#1109 [03:32] <GreyBot> The current game has been ENDED by aetherian 
#1110 [03:32] <aetherian> there it is guys
#1111 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> Uno.. kinda has colors
#1112 [03:32] <aetherian> abuse it well
#1113 [03:33] * fogWork gargles coffee
#1113 [03:33] * nidefawl [nidefawl@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1114 [03:33] <aetherian> o.o
#1115 [03:33] * lukegb gargles fogWork
#1115 [03:33] <fogWork> ...
#1116 [03:33] * aetherian still wants to !wiki religion
#1116 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> aetherian - greybot has more abusive scripts
#1117 [03:33] <aetherian> I am sure it does
#1118 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> Not that I'll tell you them
#1119 [03:33] <aetherian> but that's the worst I know
#1120 [03:33] <aetherian> quick, someone else, do !wikki religion
#1121 [03:33] <Kealper> oh man aubot could spam so hard, but i'm keeping that a seekrit
#1122 [03:33] * fogWork shakes fist @ lukegb
#1122 [03:34] <lukegb> !paid
#1123 [03:34] <Draglems1> my bucket just glitched?
#1124 [03:34] <fogWork> I got an image in my head from that emote, from a 70's porno
#1125 [03:34] <aetherian> !help
#1126 [03:34] <Draglems1> I just used water from the bucket and it refilled when I PUT water on the grass.
#1127 [03:34] <aetherian> !motd
#1128 [03:34] <Kealper> aetherian: that module can't spam
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#1130 [03:34] <aetherian> I know
#1131 [03:34] <Kealper> but that isn't the module that can do it
#1132 [03:34] <aetherian> dur
#1133 [03:35] <aetherian> kelly, what linux distro would you reccomend for someone who 'ardly knows about lix
#1134 [03:35] <Kealper> the one that can do it is the bot module, but i have disabled the help command on that to keep it away from prying eyes
#1135 [03:35] <Kealper> Ubuntu
#1136 [03:35] <aetherian> not something like Suse?
#1137 [03:35] <Kealper> Ubuntu
#1138 [03:35] <TheBix> hey guys
#1139 [03:35] <fogWork> Fedora?
#1140 [03:35] <GV> Hi Bix
#1141 [03:35] <Kealper> Linux Mint
#1142 [03:35] <TheBix> my friend is running a MC server and its mega mega laggy
#1143 [03:35] <Kealper> ello
#1144 [03:36] <aetherian> ima check if there's a KDE for ubuntu
#1145 [03:36] <Kealper> does his internet suck?
#1146 [03:36] <TheBix> any way to fix?
#1147 [03:36] <GV> Define "mega mega laggy"
#1148 [03:36] <fogWork> kubuntu = kde
#1149 [03:36] <Kealper> aetherian: Kubuntu
#1150 [03:36] <Kealper> damnit ninja'd
#1151 [03:36] <aetherian> lul
#1152 [03:36] * fogWork snickers
#1152 [03:36] <aetherian> kde>gnome
#1153 [03:36] <TheBix> no its not his internet, back in the day you could run a minecraft alpha server on a POS laptop on wireless. But then notch fucked up beta
#1154 [03:36] <aetherian> !joke
#1155 [03:36] <GreyBot> Q: What is a little dog's favorite drink? A: Pupsi-cola.
#1156 [03:36] <lukegb> !wiki user:lukegb/sandbox
#1157 [03:36] <fogWork> KDE is made of ass and poo, I pity the fools that use it
#1158 [03:36] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/
#1159 [03:36] <TheBix> so I guess its Notch's coding that sucks
#1160 [03:36] <lukegb> GreyBot found Wikipedia!
#1161 [03:36] <aetherian> fogwork: lolno
#1162 [03:36] <TheBix> anyway to fix?
#1163 [03:36] <GV> Yay!
#1164 [03:37] <lukegb> !wiki User:Lukegb/Sandbox
#1165 [03:37] <GreyBot> Wikipedia No Match
#1166 [03:37] <lukegb> ;;
#1167 [03:37] <lukegb> !wiki User:Lukegb
#1168 [03:37] <GreyBot> Wikipedia No Match
#1169 [03:37] <aetherian> !wiki
#1170 [03:37] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/
#1171 [03:37] <lukegb> Oh, damn, alternate namespace
#1172 [03:37] * aetherian slaps greybot
#1172 [03:37] <aetherian> stupid bot
#1173 [03:37] <Draglems1> do buckets break if you store lava?
#1174 [03:37] <Kealper> !wiki User:Kealper
#1175 [03:37] <GreyBot> Wikipedia No Match
#1176 [03:38] <Kealper> :<
#1177 [03:38] <GV> No Draglems1
#1178 [03:38] <fogWork> !wiki William Henry Gates
#1179 [03:38] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates
#1180 [03:38] <GreyBot> William Henry "Bill" Gates III, (born October 28, 1955) is an American business magnate, philanthropist, author and was chairman of Microsoft until 2008, the software company he founded with Paul Allen. He is consistently ranked among the world's wealthiest people and was the wealthiest overall from 1995 to 2009, excluding 2008, when he was ranked third. During his career at Microsoft,
#1181 [03:38] <Draglems1> That seems odd.
#1182 [03:38] <GreyBot> Gates
#1183 [03:38] <GreyBot> held the positions of CEO and chief software architect, and remains the largest individual shareholder with more than 8 percent of the common stock. He has also authored or co-authored several books.
#1184 [03:38] <Draglems1> !Wiki Troll
#1185 [03:38] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
#1186 [03:38] <GreyBot> In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. In addition to the offending poster, the noun troll can also refer to the
#1187 [03:38] <GreyBot> provocative message itself, as in "that was an excellent troll you posted". While the term troll and its associated action trolling are primarily associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels highly subjective, with trolling being used to describe intentionally provocative actions outside of an online context. For example, recent media accounts
#1188 [03:38] <GreyBot> have used the
#1189 [03:38] <GreyBot> term troll to describe "a person who defaces internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."
#1190 [03:38] <aetherian> aahhh
#1191 [03:38] <Kealper> OH GOD
#1192 [03:38] <aetherian> !wiki religion
#1193 [03:38] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion
#1194 [03:38] <GreyBot> Religion is a cultural system that creates powerful and long-lasting meaning, by establishing symbols that relate humanity to truths and values. Many religions have narratives, symbols, traditions and sacred histories that are intended to give meaning to life, to explain the origin of life or the universe. They tend to derive morality, ethics, religious laws or a preferred lifestyle from
#1195 [03:38] <GreyBot> their ideas about the cosmos and human nature.
#1196 [03:38] * GV kicked GreyBot from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: GreyBot)
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#1198 [03:38] <aetherian> lol
#1199 [03:38] <fogWork> Haha :P
#1200 [03:38] <GV> Gah, damn autojoin
#1201 [03:38] <aetherian> pwned
#1202 [03:38] <Kealper> Draglems1: wins that one by a long shot
#1203 [03:38] <TheBix> OMFG
#1204 [03:38] <Draglems1> !wiki Spam
#1205 [03:38] <TheBix> My friends server stopped lagging massively
#1206 [03:38] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam
#1207 [03:38] <GreyBot> Spam may refer to:
#1208 [03:39] <Draglems1> fghfgh
#1209 [03:39] <Kealper> noes!
#1210 [03:39] <aetherian> !wiki spam_(meat)
#1211 [03:39] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29
#1212 [03:39] <Draglems1> "That was dramatic"
#1213 [03:39] <GreyBot> Spam (officially trademarked as SPAM, a portmanteau of "Spiced Ham") is a canned precooked meat product made by the Hormel Foods Corporation. The labeled ingredients in the classic variety of Spam are chopped pork shoulder meat with ham meat added, salt, water, modified potato starch as a binder, and sodium nitrite as a preservative. Spam's gelatinous glaze, or aspic, forms from the
#1214 [03:39] <GreyBot> cooling of
#1215 [03:39] <GreyBot> meat stock. The product has become part of many jokes and urban legends about mystery meat, which has made it part of pop culture and folklore.
#1216 [03:39] <Draglems1> "THAT WAS PATHETIC!"
#1217 [03:39] <aetherian> stfu
#1218 [03:39] <Draglems1> !wiki Tomato
#1219 [03:39] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato
#1220 [03:39] <GreyBot> The tomato is a savory, typically red, edible fruit, as well as the plant (Solanum lycopersicum) which bears it. Originating in South America, the tomato was spread around the world following the Spanish colonization of the Americas, and its many varieties are now widely grown, often in greenhouses in cooler climates.
#1221 [03:39] <aetherian> !wiki tomahto
#1222 [03:39] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let's_Call_the_Whole_Thing_Off
#1223 [03:39] <GreyBot> "Let's Call the Whole Thing Off" is a song written by George Gershwin and Ira Gershwin for the 1937 film Shall We Dance where it was introduced by Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers as part of a celebrated dance duet on roller skates. The song is most famous for its “You like to-may-toes (/təˈmeɪtoʊz/) and I like to-mah-toes (/təˈmɑːtoʊz/)” and other verses comparing their
#1224 [03:39] <GreyBot> different regional dialects.
#1225 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> !part
#1226 [03:39] * GreyBot [GreyBot@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#1227 [03:39] <Kealper> next person to type !wiki gets to see if my knockout command works
#1228 [03:39] <aetherian> o.o
#1229 [03:39] <Draglems1> !wiki Tom_ato
#1230 [03:39] * Kealper kicked Draglems1 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Draglems1)
#1231 [03:39] <fogWork> Luls :P
#1232 [03:39] <aetherian> o.o.o
#1233 [03:39] <Kealper> works
#1234 [03:39] * Sirrush [Sirrush@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1235 [03:39] * Draglems1 [Draglems1@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1236 [03:40] <Draglems1> Reason: Draglems1
#1237 [03:40] <aetherian> !help
#1238 [03:40] <Draglems1> ?
#1239 [03:40] <aetherian> !paid
#1240 [03:40] <aetherian> !paid aetherian
#1241 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> <@Kealper> next person to type !wiki gets to see if my knockout command works
#1242 [03:40] <Kealper> next person to type anything starting with ! gets to see if aubot's command works
#1243 [03:40] <aetherian> !
#1244 [03:40] <Kealper> !kick aetherian
#1245 [03:40] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by Kealper with reason: None given.))
#1246 [03:40] <Draglems1> Exclamation mark
#1247 [03:40] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1248 [03:40] <aetherian> it didn't start with !, it was !
#1249 [03:40] * GreyBot [GreyBot@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1250 [03:40] <aetherian> !!
#1251 [03:40] <aetherian> !wik-
#1252 [03:40] <aetherian> err
#1253 [03:41] <aetherian> yeah
#1254 [03:41] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, CPU is at 55C
#1255 [03:41] <nevercast> which is good imo
#1256 [03:41] <nevercast> Time to start minecraft
#1257 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> That's not bad
#1258 [03:41] <aetherian> there needs to be a way to get the ubuntu torrent >.>
#1259 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> Now try some CPU-intensive programs
#1260 [03:41] <LatHans> cpuburn
#1261 [03:41] <fogWork> P4 HT 3Ghz runs at 65-70 when idle ;/
#1262 [03:41] <LatHans> p4 sucks at thermal
#1263 [03:42] <LatHans> :)
#1264 [03:42] <fogWork> Yeah
#1265 [03:42] <aetherian> grey: like minecraft?
#1266 [03:42] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, That's why I'm starting mc
#1267 [03:42] <LatHans> luckly for intel, they got a lot better from core 2 duo and later on:)
#1268 [03:42] <aetherian> oh god, now I want to wiki command minecraft
#1269 [03:42] <Kealper> wait
#1270 [03:42] <aetherian> k
#1271 [03:42] <Kealper> what? 70C?
#1272 [03:42] <Kealper> idle?
#1273 [03:43] <Kealper> holy crap
#1274 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> mhmm
#1275 [03:43] <LatHans> probably some bad install, tho
#1276 [03:43] <LatHans> my p4 was about 40 idle and 70-80 at max load:P
#1277 [03:43] <Kealper> mine is only like 43C after hours of prime95 :/
#1278 [03:43] <fogWork> O_o
#1279 [03:43] <Szernex> Mine too
#1280 [03:43] <aetherian> omigod
#1281 [03:43] <fogWork> First gen p4 with ht?
#1282 [03:43] <aetherian> I'm getting 2.3 kb/s
#1283 [03:43] <aetherian> my innernet rocks
#1284 [03:43] <Szernex> AMD + Scythe Shuriken <3
#1285 [03:43] <aetherian> for downloading
#1286 [03:44] <nevercast> Kealper, That's nothing
#1287 [03:44] <Kealper> mine is a 2.6ghz athlon x2 5000+ OCed to 3.0ghz
#1288 [03:44] <nevercast> My laptop normally idles around 90C
#1289 [03:44] <aetherian> pfft, kealper
#1290 [03:44] <Szernex> AMD x3 720BE
#1291 [03:44] <Kealper> mine idles at about 32C
#1292 [03:44] <aetherian> overclock it now
#1293 [03:44] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Turns out that isn't my CPU.. My Cpu doesn't have a thermal sensor. It's my GPU. Which is now at 60C btw
#1294 [03:44] <Kealper> aetherian: overclock what? mine?
#1295 [03:44] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1295 [03:44] * LatHans loves his intel core i7-950
#1295 [03:44] <aetherian> lul
#1296 [03:45] <fogWork> LatHans: lovely cpu ;)
#1297 [03:45] <LatHans> and my gtx 580
#1298 [03:45] <aetherian> greyvulpine: you have an odd twitch in your eye
#1299 [03:45] <nevercast> Uhh
#1300 [03:45] <Kealper> even 60C for a card is a bit steap :/
#1301 [03:45] <aetherian> go see a doc
#1302 [03:45] <nevercast> My computer isn't responding
#1303 [03:45] <LatHans> the most silent and powerfull video card I ever had:D
#1304 [03:45] <nevercast> By not responding I mean it's frozen.. hard!! everything
#1305 [03:45] <nevercast> Mouse
#1306 [03:45] <nevercast> everything
#1307 [03:45] <nevercast> dead
#1308 [03:45] <fogWork> ;O
#1309 [03:45] <nevercast> Yep, HDD light is dead
#1310 [03:46] <nevercast> and in about 30 seconds my graphics card will power off putting my monitor into standby
#1311 [03:46] <Kealper> i think my card idles at about 39C and it's overclocked too :/
#1312 [03:46] <nevercast> This is a full blown hardware freeze
#1313 [03:46] * nevercast kicks his desktop
#1313 [03:47] * aetherian wants to make linux look like a mac to show his staunch mac fan friend
#1313 [03:47] <aetherian> hum...
#1314 [03:47] <nevercast> aetherian, Easy
#1315 [03:47] <aetherian> I know
#1316 [03:47] <nevercast> aetherian, Firstly. Download Docky
#1317 [03:47] <nevercast> aetherian, I use it.. it's the sex
#1318 [03:47] <fogWork> aetherian: make it look like vista instead
#1319 [03:47] <nevercast> FUCK NO!
#1320 [03:47] <aetherian> NO
#1321 [03:47] <aetherian> HELL NO
#1322 [03:47] <fogWork> DO EEEEET
#1323 [03:47] <nevercast> fogWork, Do you want to go to the Nether for real?
#1324 [03:47] <aetherian> looooooooooool
#1325 [03:47] <Draglems1> !wiki Internet
#1326 [03:47] <fogWork> I've been there :P
#1327 [03:47] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
#1328 [03:47] <GreyBot> The Internet is a global system of interconnected computer networks that use the standard Internet Protocol Suite (TCP/IP) to serve billions of users worldwide. It is a network of networks that consists of millions of private, public, academic, business, and government networks, of local to global scope, that are linked by a broad array of electronic, wireless and optical networking
#1329 [03:47] <GreyBot> technologies.
#1330 [03:47] <GreyBot> The Internet carries a vast range of information resources and services, such as the inter-linked hypertext documents of the World Wide Web (WWW) and the infrastructure to support electronic mail.
#1331 [03:47] <fogWork> Not a whole lot to do
#1332 [03:47] <Kealper> damnit
#1333 [03:47] * Kealper kicked Draglems1 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Draglems1)
#1334 [03:48] <nevercast> LOL!
#1335 [03:48] <fogWork> Me and the ghasts, kicking it back, smoking pipe
#1336 [03:48] <nevercast> Thanks Kealper
#1337 [03:48] <aetherian> you're wrong by the way
#1338 [03:48] <nevercast> Fuckin' noob.
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#1340 [03:48] <aetherian> that's the the first thing
#1341 [03:48] <aetherian> the first thing is
#1342 [03:48] <Draglems1> What rule am i breaking again? <_>
#1343 [03:48] <aetherian> download linux
#1344 [03:48] <nevercast> Draglems1, Don't be a noob
#1345 [03:48] <aetherian> lul
#1346 [03:48] <Draglems1> Since when was i a rule?
#1347 [03:48] <Kealper> next person to use GreyBot gets a ban that lasts as long as i don't forget about it
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#1349 [03:48] <aetherian> and when you do forget about it
#1350 [03:49] <aetherian> the person is still banned
#1351 [03:49] <Kealper> and i'm going to bed so prospects don't look good if you earn yourself a ban
#1352 [03:49] <arensirb> Hello. I was wondering about pressure plates. On youtube I see that the cart is stopped by them, but this is not the case for me
#1353 [03:49] <aetherian> so greybot=overnightban?
#1354 [03:49] * aetherian falls back on aubot
#1354 [03:49] <Kealper> probably more.....if i go to bed i'll forget i banned someone
#1355 [03:49] <aetherian> o.o
#1356 [03:49] <nevercast> Lol.
#1357 [03:49] <nevercast> /banlist ?
#1358 [03:49] <aetherian> aubot loevs gramers
#1359 [03:50] <Kealper> like i actually check that >.>
#1360 [03:50] <nevercast> Haha who does *shrug*
#1361 [03:50] <aetherian> me?
#1362 [03:50] <fogWork> Tie a knot in your mustache, so that you don't forget, Kealper
#1363 [03:50] <arensirb> :(
#1364 [03:50] <nevercast> Okay.. CPU back at 2ghz.. Minecraft time!
#1365 [03:50] <Kealper> lol
#1366 [03:50] <Draglems1> O CRAP
#1367 [03:50] <nevercast> without hardware freeze please
#1368 [03:50] <Draglems1> I just used the /list command, waht is it mean't to be?
#1369 [03:50] <arensirb> nevercast: Haha
#1370 [03:50] <Draglems1> what*
#1371 [03:50] <aetherian> just type
#1372 [03:50] <aetherian> /ban
#1373 [03:50] <nevercast> Draglems1, Stop being a noob!
#1374 [03:50] <arensirb> But.. Anyone got any idea?
#1375 [03:50] <Draglems1> I own a horse nevercast.
#1376 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> /list lists all the channels on the network
#1377 [03:51] <Draglems1> Do you have a horse?
#1378 [03:51] <nevercast> Draglems1, What's your point?
#1379 [03:51] <Draglems1> My point is, I have a horse.
#1380 [03:51] <fogWork> What happens when you step on them, arensirb?
#1381 [03:51] <aetherian> type /part to view recently kicked people
#1382 [03:51] <nevercast> Draglems1, I have 3 horses outside my house in the paddock.. seriously.
#1383 [03:51] <fogWork> You need a door infront of it, or redstone
#1384 [03:51] <arensirb> fogWork: They work if i step on it
#1385 [03:51] <arensirb> But I want it to stop the mine cart
#1386 [03:51] <fogWork> Ah, hmm
#1387 [03:51] * Draglems1 [Draglems1@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#1388 [03:51] <nevercast> Fuckin' noob
#1389 [03:51] <fogWork> A mod perhaps?
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#1391 [03:52] <aetherian> wutwut
#1392 [03:52] <Draglems1> HAHAA, Got me there
#1393 [03:52] <aetherian> loool
#1394 [03:52] <arensirb> So a pressure plate does not stop a cart?
#1395 [03:52] <fogWork> I don't really know, I have a mod for minecarts and pressure plates
#1396 [03:52] <nevercast> Draglems1, When I was your age. I got the shit flamed out of me. But I wasn't half as dense.. So I'm going to flame you 10 fold :)
#1397 [03:52] <Draglems1> ^Please do.
#1398 [03:52] <arensirb> ok, maybe I should get admin to install that mod :P
#1399 [03:52] <nevercast> Remember kids, 12345 is a bad password
#1400 [03:52] <Draglems1> Indeed.
#1401 [03:53] <nevercast> use 54321 instead
#1402 [03:53] <fogWork> arensirb: bukkit + minecartmania something :P
#1403 [03:53] <aetherian> /ping greybot would bring the same response as !ping , right?
#1404 [03:53] <fogWork> Plenty of fun stuff
#1405 [03:53] <Kealper> !reload mod_nospam
#1406 [03:53] <GreyVulpine> No
#1407 [03:53] <aetherian> no?
#1408 [03:53] <fogWork> no!
#1409 [03:53] <aetherian> oh wait
#1410 [03:53] <aetherian> right
#1411 [03:53] <fogWork> what?
#1412 [03:53] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1413 [03:53] * aetherian wants to make aubot kick him now
#1413 [03:53] <GreyBot> AuBot Your Ping time was 0.451 Seconds.
#1414 [03:54] <fogWork> Darn shift button is shifty on this keyboard
#1415 [03:54] <nevercast> Wait. Am I correct in believing that blocks in Minecraft have light values?
#1416 [03:54] <aetherian> yes
#1417 [03:54] <aetherian> no
#1418 [03:54] * Aro [Aro@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1419 [03:54] <nevercast> And that determines how lit they are?
#1420 [03:54] <aetherian> maybe
#1421 [03:54] <aetherian> so
#1422 [03:54] * aetherian hugs aubot
#1422 [03:54] <nevercast> And that is calculated by minecraft?
#1423 [03:54] <aetherian> aww
#1424 [03:54] <aetherian> even when controlled by kealper
#1425 [03:54] <aetherian> you're so sweet, kelly
#1426 [03:54] <Draglems1> Anyone give me any advice?
#1427 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> Draglems1 - With?
#1428 [03:55] <nevercast> Draglems1, Ask a question first
#1429 [03:55] <Draglems1> I just accidently created a bunch of whirlpools in the water.
#1430 [03:55] <nevercast> lolwat
#1431 [03:55] <Draglems1> Any idea how to get rid of em? :D
#1432 [03:55] <Draglems1> :D <- Lol.
#1433 [03:55] <nevercast> " I just accidently your minecraft "
#1434 [03:55] <Kealper> place dirt or something 1 level below the water that you want to fix
#1435 [03:55] <nevercast> FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU
#1436 [03:55] <fogWork> ./fixwater radius
#1437 [03:55] <Kealper> remove that dirt when it's fixed
#1438 [03:55] <fogWork> Woooh!
#1439 [03:55] * fogWork coughs
#1439 [03:55] <Draglems1> I don't get it @ nevercast.
#1440 [03:55] <nevercast> Draglems1, It's a Meme.
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#1442 [03:56] <Draglems1> Ahh
#1443 [03:56] * Fuzzmz [Fuzzmz@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1444 [03:56] <aetherian> lul
#1445 [03:56] <aetherian> RAGE
#1446 [03:56] <Kealper> "I just accidentally a whole bottle of Coke!"
#1447 [03:56] * aetherian accidently aubot
#1447 [03:56] <nevercast> Kealper, Actually I did before :P
#1448 [03:56] <Draglems1> I just accidently a autobot kicked!
#1449 [03:56] <Draglems1> Do i win?
#1450 [03:56] <nevercast> No
#1451 [03:56] <aetherian> no
#1452 [03:56] <nevercast> You will never win
#1453 [03:56] <Draglems1> no
#1454 [03:56] <nevercast> always fail
#1455 [03:56] <aetherian> you lost the game
#1456 [03:56] <Kealper> if you talk fast enough you can win
#1457 [03:56] <Draglems1> Whats the game?
#1458 [03:56] <nevercast> Fuck I just lost the game
#1459 [03:56] <nevercast> The Game.
#1460 [03:57] <Draglems1> What is The Game?
#1461 [03:57] <nevercast> The Game is a game you're always playing
#1462 [03:57] <Draglems1> Oh, Minecraft?
#1463 [03:57] * aetherian wants to /notice #minecrafthelp you all lost the game
#1463 [03:57] <nevercast> You cannot choose to play the game or not play the game
#1464 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> No
#1465 [03:57] <nevercast> you're always playing.
#1466 [03:57] <nevercast> Actually why am I humouring you
#1467 [03:57] <nevercast> Google it
#1468 [03:57] <Kealper> don't notice the whole channel, it will make everyone beep
#1469 [03:57] <aetherian> grey, I save chanwide spam for special occasions
#1470 [03:57] <aetherian> such as
#1471 [03:57] <Draglems1> Because I know what the game is and I think, I just trolled you, I don't know, imnotatroll
#1472 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1473 [03:57] * nevercast mutes his speakers
#1473 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> !wiki the game
#1474 [03:57] <aetherian> 12:00 christmass morning
#1475 [03:57] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_%28mind_game%29
#1476 [03:57] <nevercast> okay notice now :)
#1477 [03:57] <GreyBot> The Game is a mental game where the objective is to avoid thinking about The Game itself. Thinking about The Game constitutes a loss, which, according to the rules of The Game, must be announced each time it occurs. It is impossible to win The Game; players can only attempt to avoid losing for as long as they possibly can. The Game has been variously described as pointless and infuriating,
#1478 [03:57] <GreyBot> or as
#1479 [03:57] <GreyBot> challenging and fun to play. As of 2010, The Game is played by millions worldwide.
#1480 [03:58] <aetherian> kealper
#1481 [03:58] * Kealper ragebans grey
#1481 [03:58] <nevercast> Draglems1, Pathetic Troll is Pathetic :)
#1482 [03:58] * GreyVulpine points
#1482 [03:58] <aetherian> now you have to ban him
#1483 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> Uh-oh
#1484 [03:58] <Draglems1> I'm not a troll though.
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#1486 [03:58] * aetherian does !wiki trolll
#1486 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> I didn't do it!
#1487 [03:58] * GreyVulpine hides behind aetherian
#1487 [03:58] <Kealper> :o
#1488 [03:58] <aetherian> aahhhh
#1489 [03:58] <SinZ> nevercast, i dare you to do notice in #bukkit
#1490 [03:58] * aetherian takes brunt of blast
#1490 [03:58] <aetherian> oh
#1491 [03:58] <aetherian> the
#1492 [03:58] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
#1493 [03:58] <Kealper> LOL
#1494 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> O.o
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#1496 [03:58] <SinZ> owned
#1497 [03:58] <aetherian> you owe me one
#1498 [03:58] <Kealper> guess he actually did take the brunt of the blast
#1499 [03:59] <aetherian> thank god for five second respawn time
#1500 [03:59] <nevercast> SinZ, Negative.
#1501 [03:59] <SinZ> lolwhy
#1502 [04:00] <aetherian> lolcuz
#1503 [04:00] <nevercast> lolwat
#1504 [04:00] <nevercast> Know what I think about Minecraft
#1505 [04:00] <nevercast> It's method of Lighting..
#1506 [04:00] <nevercast> IS BLOODY RETARDED!
#1507 [04:00] <Kealper> yeah...
#1508 [04:00] <nevercast> Graphics card should be doing lighting
#1509 [04:00] <nevercast> not my CPU
#1510 [04:00] <Kealper> yeah....
#1511 [04:00] <nevercast> With it's stupid iterative light values
#1512 [04:01] * nevercast virtual slaps notch
#1512 [04:01] <aetherian> :O
#1513 [04:01] <Kealper> but using gpu to do lighting would mean shaders
#1514 [04:01] <Kealper> notch nerdrages at shaders
#1515 [04:01] <fogWork> Oh ho ho... coffee, is it possible to have too much? I think not
#1516 [04:01] * aetherian loves his gpu
#1516 [04:01] <nevercast> Lol.
#1517 [04:01] * GV pokes nevercast at
#1517 [04:01] <GV> paste fail
#1518 [04:01] <nevercast> O.o
#1519 [04:01] <feenyx> shaders need drivers to work
#1520 [04:01] <nevercast> at what
#1521 [04:01] <nevercast> lol.
#1522 [04:01] <GV> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=55700
#1523 [04:01] <aetherian> gv, what doth thy name abbreviate?
#1524 [04:01] <feenyx> and drivers aren't truly cross-platform
#1525 [04:01] <GV> Two clients
#1526 [04:01] <GV> Two different locations
#1527 [04:01] <fogWork> Betterlight is hot stuff
#1528 [04:02] <fogWork> Bathroom, GV?
#1529 [04:02] <aetherian> lol
#1530 [04:02] <GV> Yes, my house is so big, my bathroom is in a different zipcode
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#1532 [04:02] <fogWork> :P
#1533 [04:02] <aetherian> GoldVampire
#1534 [04:02] <nevercast> GV, What does BetterLight mod do?
#1535 [04:02] <nevercast> TL;DR TBH
#1536 [04:02] <GV> AO lighting
#1537 [04:02] <nevercast> AO lighting?
#1538 [04:02] <aetherian> type /part for mod info
#1539 [04:02] <nevercast> Adult Only :P
#1540 [04:02] <Kealper> Ambient Occlusion
#1541 [04:03] <nevercast> Ahh
#1542 [04:03] <nevercast> :)
#1543 [04:03] <lukegb> /part
#1544 [04:03] <Kealper> the only thing i hate about BetterLight is what it looks like outside
#1545 [04:03] <lukegb> Did I do that right?
#1546 [04:03] <aetherian> no
#1547 [04:03] <aetherian> not
#1548 [04:03] <fogWork> Also, http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=128043
#1549 [04:03] <Kealper> /quit
#1550 [04:03] <aetherian> /say /part
#1551 [04:03] <GV> /part
#1552 [04:03] <nevercast> /say //part ?
#1553 [04:03] <GV> /part and /quit are at a party, /quit leaves, who's left?
#1554 [04:03] <Kealper> /say //part is for noobs
#1555 [04:03] <nevercast> /part :D
#1556 [04:04] <aetherian> /quit (modname) for extensive detail
#1557 [04:04] <GV> Or, my favorite..
#1558 [04:04] * GV wonders if..
#1558 [04:04] <nevercast> Know what
#1559 [04:04] <nevercast> Who's up for re-writing MC client :D
#1560 [04:04] <nevercast> With real lighting -.-"
#1561 [04:04] <Kealper> have fun!
#1562 [04:04] <Kealper> lol
#1563 [04:04] <aetherian> /notice #minecrafthelp (modname) for help with mod
#1564 [04:04] <nevercast> Seriously the graphics in this game are so trivial, It shouldn't lag half as bad as it does
#1565 [04:04] <Kealper> /nerdrage
#1566 [04:05] <Kealper> nevercast: lots of on-cpu stuff
#1567 [04:05] * nevercast takes anger out on cow with pickaxe
#1567 [04:05] <aetherian> [nerdrage] dammit minecraft, I have a good computer, why do you gotta be such a memory hole? [/nerdrage]
#1568 [04:05] <Kealper> which could be made faster by on-gpu, but whatever, not my game and it runs fine on my computer
#1569 [04:05] * GV crosses fingers
#1569 [04:05] <GV> !trivia test
#1570 [04:05] * GV pokes
#1570 [04:05] * Draglems1 .
#1570 [04:05] <nevercast> Kealper, To be honest though.
#1571 [04:05] <GreyBot> Starting the trivia. Round of 10 questions. !strivia to stop. Total: 2
#1572 [04:05] <nevercast> Kealper, I've seen Notch's programming
#1573 [04:05] <GreyBot> 1. What's the command to quit from an IRC server?
#1574 [04:06] * Draglems1 /me
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#1575 [04:06] <nevercast> Kealper, It can be a bit unthoughtout sometimes
#1576 [04:06] <GV> !strivia
#1577 [04:06] <GreyBot> Stopping the trivia. !trivia <number> to restart.
#1578 [04:06] <aetherian> !trivia
#1579 [04:06] <GreyBot> Starting the trivia. Round of 10 questions. !strivia to stop. Total: 162609
#1580 [04:06] <GV> !strivia
#1581 [04:06] <Kealper> Notch himself even said he code looks like garbage
#1582 [04:06] <GreyBot> Stopping the trivia. !trivia <number> to restart.
#1583 [04:06] <aetherian> !trivia 4
#1584 [04:06] <Kealper> his code*
#1585 [04:06] <GreyBot> Starting the trivia. Round of 4 questions. !strivia to stop. Total: 162609
#1586 [04:06] <GV> !strivia
#1587 [04:06] <GreyBot> Stopping the trivia. !trivia <number> to restart.
#1588 [04:06] <aetherian> awww
#1589 [04:06] <Kealper> i'm off to bed now
#1590 [04:06] <aetherian> not kealper, what you said about banning is over
#1591 [04:06] <aetherian> so people can spam the page now
#1592 [04:06] <aetherian> yey
#1593 [04:06] * GV disables
#1593 [04:07] * aetherian !uno's
#1593 [04:07] <nevercast> Fuck my Pick just broke
#1594 [04:07] <GV> /bans
#1595 [04:07] <nevercast> Now it's breaking through Ore with my hands
#1596 [04:07] * aetherian banevades
#1596 [04:07] <nevercast> Punch you tank beast! PUNCH THAT ROCK
#1597 [04:07] <nevercast> Night Kealper
#1598 [04:07] <Draglems1> I hate it when your pickaxe breaks :/
#1599 [04:07] <Draglems1> when you're hunting for stuff.
#1600 [04:07] <nevercast> Draglems1, I normally carry 5 of them with me
#1601 [04:07] <nevercast> Draglems1, and a shit tonne of torches
#1602 [04:07] <Draglems1> i'd do the same
#1603 [04:07] <Draglems1> but..
#1604 [04:08] <Draglems1> My inventory is full, I dunno what to carry :/
#1605 [04:08] <nevercast> Lol
#1606 [04:08] <nevercast> Put all your shit
#1607 [04:08] <nevercast> in a chest
#1608 [04:08] <GV> InvEdit
#1609 [04:08] <Draglems1> I don't have a house though.
#1610 [04:08] <nevercast> You don't need a house for a chest
#1611 [04:08] <nevercast> put it outside
#1612 [04:08] <nevercast> idfc
#1613 [04:08] <Draglems1> I always iIsland to Island
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#1615 [04:09] <Draglems1> but if you're inventory is full to begin with, how are you going to pick it it all backup and then with the new drops?
#1616 [04:09] <nevercast> Why?
#1617 [04:09] <nevercast> What?
#1618 [04:09] <nevercast> Empty it to a Chest
#1619 [04:09] <nevercast> Or throw it away
#1620 [04:09] <aetherian> /notice #minecrafthelp the grand aetherian is going to bed. good night.
#1621 [04:09] <nevercast> Which reminds me, I need to find Lava
#1622 [04:09] <Draglems1> But you can't carry a chest.
#1623 [04:09] <nevercast> night aetherian
#1624 [04:09] <aetherian> night guys
#1625 [04:09] <Draglems1> with stuff in it.
#1626 [04:09] <GV> Laters
#1627 [04:09] <nevercast> Draglems1, So.
#1628 [04:09] <nevercast> Draglems1, Stop travelling, and build shit
#1629 [04:10] <nevercast> It's MineCRAFT
#1630 [04:10] <nevercast> Stop mining, get crafting
#1631 [04:10] <Draglems1> I've been on this island for ages.
#1632 [04:10] <Draglems1> I HAVE nothing to CRAFT with.
#1633 [04:10] <Draglems1> thats why I'M going ISLAND TO ISLAND to get ITEMS.
#1634 [04:10] <nevercast> You have Cobble Stone?
#1635 [04:10] <Draglems1> you can make houses out of cobblestone?
#1636 [04:10] <Draglems1> That works? :/
#1637 [04:10] <nevercast> ...
#1638 [04:10] <nevercast> WTF
#1639 [04:10] <Draglems1> thought it wouldn't be a good idea.
#1640 [04:10] <nevercast> Yes
#1641 [04:10] <nevercast> of course
#1642 [04:10] <nevercast> what
#1643 [04:10] <nevercast> why?
#1644 [04:11] <Draglems1> I remember someone saying that its used for other stuff >_<
#1645 [04:11] <GV> ...
#1646 [04:11] <nevercast> Dude, make a furnance with cobble stone, and some stairs, and some walls
#1647 [04:11] <Draglems1> Alright, thanks
#1648 [04:11] <Draglems1> but i should find.. a big big place to build..
#1649 [04:11] <GV> cobblestone's one the the most plentiful stones you get in the game
#1650 [04:11] <nevercast> Good, now use the dirt for landscaping
#1651 [04:11] <nevercast> No, Make a shovel
#1652 [04:11] <Draglems1> landscaping?
#1653 [04:11] <Draglems1> Shovel?
#1654 [04:11] <GV> Once you start digging, you can't get rid of the stuff fast enoguh
#1655 [04:11] <nevercast> Yes a shovel
#1656 [04:11] <nevercast> To dig with
#1657 [04:11] <Draglems1> Sorry, I'm kinda new to it and i'm REALLY tired.
#1658 [04:11] <Draglems1> Aye, okay.
#1659 [04:11] <nevercast> GV, So true
#1660 [04:11] <Draglems1> Two sticks, 3 cobbles tone?
#1661 [04:11] <Draglems1> *checks wiki*
#1662 [04:11] <GV> 1 cobblestone
#1663 [04:11] <nevercast> Gv, Soon as I made a Iron Shovel I was like. WEEE!!! NOM NOM NOM
#1664 [04:12] <GV> shovel
#1665 [04:12] <nevercast> [Stick][Stick][Cobble]
#1666 [04:12] <GV> Yeah, then you realize how rare iron is
#1667 [04:12] <nevercast> Just make it Vertical not Horizontal
#1668 [04:12] <nevercast> GV, So true!
#1669 [04:12] <GV> Then you have to conserve it
#1670 [04:12] * GV blargs!
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#1671 [04:12] <nevercast> I have like 1024 Dirt, 512 Cobble Stone, 11 Iron
#1672 [04:12] <nevercast> lol.
#1673 [04:12] <fogWork> nevercast: http://codeflow.org/entries/2010/dec/09/minecraft-like-rendering-experiments-in-opengl-4/
#1674 [04:13] <nevercast> fogWork, LIKE
#1675 [04:13] <fogWork> Source at bottom
#1676 [04:13] <nevercast> fogWork, I'll be looking into implementing that shit :D
#1677 [04:13] <nevercast> OMG JIZZ
#1678 [04:13] <fogWork> ;)
#1679 [04:13] <Draglems1> >_______<..
#1680 [04:13] <Draglems1> I hate night-time.
#1681 [04:14] * Draglems1 Puts out torches
#1681 [04:14] <nevercast> Draglems1, Keep them Mobs away :)
#1682 [04:14] <nevercast> Draglems1, Always light up your workspace
#1683 [04:14] <Draglems1> Um
#1684 [04:14] <nevercast> fogWork, It's python =/
#1685 [04:14] <Draglems1> Light = attracts mobs?
#1686 [04:14] <GV> Pfft, torches are for wimps.
#1687 [04:14] <nevercast> Incorrect
#1688 [04:14] <nevercast> Light == Scares Mobs
#1689 [04:14] <Draglems1> Someone said they did.
#1690 [04:14] <GV> Real men fight in the dark
#1691 [04:14] <Draglems1> I've been PUTTING TORCHES
#1692 [04:14] <nevercast> Lol GV
#1693 [04:14] <fogWork> Python is sexy
#1694 [04:15] <Draglems1> only to find my way :/
#1695 [04:15] <nevercast> Draglems1, Torches prevent Mobs spawning
#1696 [04:15] <Draglems1> i didn't know they prevent mobs.
#1697 [04:15] <GV> They do Draglems1
#1698 [04:15] <Draglems1> so they don't come to you?
#1699 [04:15] <nevercast> Incorrect
#1700 [04:15] <Draglems1> ...FFF..
#1701 [04:15] <nevercast> They will come to you if they see you
#1702 [04:15] <Draglems1> Wait, screw it
#1703 [04:15] <Draglems1> I'm staying on peaceful
#1704 [04:15] <nevercast> But if you make enough torches, they wont spawn close enough to see you
#1705 [04:15] <Draglems1> because creepers
#1706 [04:15] <nevercast> Creepers make me Rage
#1707 [04:15] <Draglems1> creepers make me cry.
#1708 [04:15] <nevercast> As does this FUCKIN' NIGHT TIME!!
#1709 [04:15] <nevercast> ARGH
#1710 [04:16] <Draglems1> i was left on 0.5/20 hp..
#1711 [04:16] <Draglems1> (1/ heart)
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#1714 [04:16] <Draglems1> is there a way to speed time up?
#1715 [04:17] <GV> With a mod, yes
#1716 [04:17] <Draglems1> Idk how to install mods xD
#1717 [04:17] <GV> Otherwise, stay inside, don't have an inventory window up, and alt-tab out for 7 minutes
#1718 [04:17] <nevercast> LOL
#1719 [04:17] <Draglems1> wait. wait.
#1720 [04:17] <Draglems1> Having the menu up
#1721 [04:17] <Draglems1> STILL allows time to flow?
#1722 [04:17] <GV> pauses the game
#1723 [04:17] <nevercast> Really?
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#1725 [04:17] <nevercast> Oh SHI-
#1726 [04:17] <nevercast> FUCK
#1727 [04:17] <Draglems1> SON OF A
#1728 [04:18] <nevercast> I built an Iron Pic..
#1729 [04:18] <Myx0x3> are there new settings for the new minecraft server?
#1730 [04:18] <nevercast> I needed a shovel
#1731 [04:18] <Draglems1> ^
#1732 [04:18] <GV> Myx0x3 - Hmm?
#1733 [04:18] <Draglems1> Make one.
#1734 [04:18] <nevercast> Derp I'm out of Iron
#1735 [04:18] <Myx0x3> GV: the last server version i played didnt have damage and player pvp
#1736 [04:18] <GV> Myx0x3 - There hasn't been a new server binary out in a couple of weeks
#1737 [04:18] <Draglems1> |
#1738 [04:18] <Draglems1> |
#1739 [04:18] <Draglems1> \_/
#1740 [04:18] * AuBot kicked Draglems1 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
#1741 [04:18] <GV> Ah, then yes
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#1743 [04:18] <Draglems1> Woops.
#1744 [04:18] <GV> There is a new server.properties file you'll generate then
#1745 [04:19] <Draglems1> Didn't think that'd happen.
#1746 [04:19] <Draglems1> thought it'd go in one message.
#1747 [04:19] <Myx0x3> GV: how do i gererate them?
#1748 [04:19] <GV> Delete your server.properties, have new server binary, run server binary
#1749 [04:19] <Myx0x3> GV: okay thanks brother! :D
#1750 [04:20] <Draglems1> wtf is fences purpose?
#1751 [04:20] <Draglems1> Is it to keep animals or something?
#1752 [04:20] <GV> blocks non-spider mobs
#1753 [04:20] <Draglems1> spiders are asses.
#1754 [04:21] <GV> Spiders are the friggin drop-bears of Minecraft
#1755 [04:21] <GV> Always ambush me from the roof of my house
#1756 [04:21] <Draglems1> its odd though
#1757 [04:21] <Draglems1> i had a stare contest with one once.
#1758 [04:21] <Draglems1> it was on my roof, i was like
#1759 [04:21] <Draglems1> "Hi." and it just stareed..~
#1760 [04:21] <GV> It wanted a hug..
#1761 [04:21] <Draglems1> deep into my eyes~~ a true romance started to begin~
#1762 [04:22] <GV> And for you to meet its creeper buddy, hiding up there with it
#1763 [04:22] <Draglems1> ^Funny
#1764 [04:22] <Draglems1> i actually met two creepers in a tree earlier
#1765 [04:22] <Draglems1> scared the hell out of me because I was trying to remove them.
#1766 [04:22] <Draglems1> but they exploded and i went flying.
#1767 [04:22] <Draglems1> "I fell for hours!"
#1768 [04:22] <nevercast> Lies
#1769 [04:23] <Draglems1> No.
#1770 [04:23] <Draglems1> I was lucky saved by a balloon.
#1771 [04:23] <nevercast> Fuck.. where are all the trees
#1772 [04:23] <Draglems1> Forest fire mabye?
#1773 [04:23] <nevercast> BAHAHAHA
#1774 [04:23] <nevercast> Funny story
#1775 [04:23] <GV> Uh-oh
#1776 [04:23] <nevercast> Was on a Multi-Server
#1777 [04:23] <Draglems1> lemme har it.
#1778 [04:23] <Draglems1> hear it*
#1779 [04:23] <nevercast> With a couple mates
#1780 [04:23] <nevercast> and we were all building bases
#1781 [04:24] <nevercast> One of my mates when into a deep forest, and started his base in the hole at the top of a hill
#1782 [04:24] <nevercast> Like this forest was huge
#1783 [04:24] <nevercast> Anyway, I mixed some flint and iron ingot
#1784 [04:24] <Draglems1> you DICK lmao
#1785 [04:24] <nevercast> Ignited a tree stump
#1786 [04:24] <nevercast> It took about 2 minutes
#1787 [04:24] <nevercast> for the entire forest
#1788 [04:24] <nevercast> to be GONE
#1789 [04:24] <Draglems1> HAHAHA
#1790 [04:24] <nevercast> I lol'd so hard
#1791 [04:24] <Draglems1> YOU WIN.
#1792 [04:24] <Draglems1> spiders scare me
#1793 [04:24] <Draglems1> because I didn't have a shelter.
#1794 [04:25] <Draglems1> and i was in the forest, with nothing but a wooden sword.
#1795 [04:25] <nevercast> Tree covered in snow
#1796 [04:25] <nevercast> derp
#1797 [04:25] <Draglems1> BAM, 2-3 spiders at once
#1798 [04:25] <Draglems1> and i think a creeper came.
#1799 [04:25] <Draglems1> (Sexual joke intended.)
#1800 [04:26] <nevercast> Lame joke was Lame.
#1801 [04:26] <Draglems1> :<
#1802 [04:26] <Draglems1> hmm
#1803 [04:26] <Draglems1> i got alot of stuff..
#1804 [04:27] <Draglems1> i'ma make a tnt block :D
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#1806 [04:27] <Draglems1> Nvm, not enough materials :<
#1807 [04:28] <nevercast> These pine ( redwood ) trees take forever
#1808 [04:28] <nevercast> they so damn tall
#1809 [04:28] <Draglems1> wtf?
#1810 [04:28] <Draglems1> how the?
#1811 [04:29] <GV> Hmm?
#1812 [04:29] <Draglems1> i jumped from ONE ledge and i got hit 3 times?
#1813 [04:29] <Draglems1> ....
#1814 [04:29] <Draglems1> either that or i'm blind (In the dark>)
#1815 [04:30] <nevercast> GV, Will a Hoe increase my chances of getting saplings?
#1816 [04:30] <GV> No?
#1817 [04:30] <Draglems1> *giggle*
#1818 [04:30] <Draglems1> Found that funny..
#1819 [04:30] <Draglems1> a hoe.. sapplings..
#1820 [04:30] <Draglems1> Ah forget it.
#1821 [04:30] <nevercast> ...
#1822 [04:30] <nevercast> -.-
#1823 [04:30] * GV facepalms
#1823 [04:30] <nevercast> GV, okay
#1824 [04:31] <nevercast> It's okay Draglems1, We get you just hit pubity and this is all new and funny to you
#1825 [04:31] <fogWork> Updated minecraft, got in world, noticed from my tall building that spiders could now climb
#1826 [04:31] * fogWork makes a creeperface
#1826 [04:31] <Draglems1> Yeah..
#1827 [04:31] <Draglems1> I have quite abit more time
#1828 [04:31] <Draglems1> untill I've hit puberty
#1829 [04:31] <nevercast> LOL
#1830 [04:31] <nevercast> How young are you?
#1831 [04:31] <Draglems1> FINALLY, I find snowy bricks.
#1832 [04:31] <fogWork> nevercast: how young are YOU? ;P
#1833 [04:31] <Draglems1> Tweleve.
#1834 [04:32] * GV blinks.
#1834 [04:32] <Draglems1> I'm turning 13 in two moonths~~
#1835 [04:32] <fogWork> Tweleven?
#1836 [04:32] <Draglems1> gdfg
#1837 [04:32] <Draglems1> Sorry.
#1838 [04:32] <Draglems1> Its 09:34, aint gone sleep.
#1839 [04:32] <Draglems1> TWELVE.
#1840 [04:32] <nevercast> fogWork, 18
#1841 [04:32] <fogWork> Darn youngsters
#1842 [04:32] <GV> Damn youngin's
#1843 [04:32] <Draglems1> Damn, I'm a wippersnapper.
#1844 [04:32] <mcpower> Draglems1: At least you know how to IRC.
#1845 [04:32] <Draglems1> Yall Oldies gon be hitting me, with yon walking sticks.
#1846 [04:32] <GV> Get off my lawn!
#1847 [04:32] <nevercast> ... Okay he really is Twelve
#1848 [04:32] * GV shakes fist
#1848 [04:33] <Draglems1> &
#1849 [04:33] <nevercast> fogWork, How old are you Mr. Piper?
#1850 [04:33] <Draglems1> Lol @ GV.
#1851 [04:33] <Draglems1> Reminded me of Garet from golden sun <_>
#1852 [04:33] <Draglems1> kept shaking his fist in anger.
#1853 [04:33] <nevercast> Fuck sake I got a damn farm at my front gate. Stupid pigs sheep and cows all over the place
#1854 [04:33] <fogWork> *coughtwencoughtycoughsecoughvcoughevecoughn*
#1855 [04:33] <nevercast> Do they gather at light?
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#1857 [04:33] <fogWork> That's how old
#1858 [04:33] <SemanticX> Hello?
#1859 [04:33] <nevercast> fogWork, You're only two years older than me
#1860 [04:33] <nevercast> fogWork, I'm 19 this year so probably less
#1861 [04:33] <Draglems1> Urgh..
#1862 [04:34] <Draglems1> Dunno where i should build.
#1863 [04:34] <fogWork> Did you parse that correctly, sir? ;P
#1864 [04:34] <Draglems1> I can't find a good spot to build at the moment.
#1865 [04:34] <nevercast> Draglems1, Get a shovel
#1866 [04:34] <nevercast> Draglems1, Make a good spot
#1867 [04:34] <SemanticX> okay.. you see i thought this was the support channel...
#1868 [04:34] <Draglems1> got one
#1869 [04:34] <nevercast> Draglems1, I used about 300 dirt and made a spot
#1870 [04:34] <Draglems1> Y-
#1871 [04:34] <nevercast> SemanticX, It is, Support comes higher than Off topic chatter
#1872 [04:34] <Draglems1> Do i have use for killing chickens?
#1873 [04:34] <nevercast> SemanticX, But no one is in need of support.. or are they?
#1874 [04:35] <Draglems1> ^
#1875 [04:35] <Draglems1> Support or no support.
#1876 [04:35] <fogWork> nevercast: go write a coughparser ;)
#1877 [04:35] <SemanticX> i am lol... i was just waiting to see if the babbling stopped :P
#1878 [04:35] <Draglems1> YESSS, A COW.
#1879 [04:35] <Draglems1> *gets out stone sword* D:
#1880 [04:35] <GV> SemanticX - Please feel free to interrupt us.
#1881 [04:35] * fogWork tries to imagine how a stone sword would actually look like, or work
#1881 [04:35] <GV> Support takes precendence over idle chatter
#1882 [04:35] <SemanticX> Basically, my minecraft was working
#1883 [04:35] <Draglems1> Yeseses,, 4 cows.. Yesss..
#1884 [04:35] <SemanticX> then it stopped
#1885 [04:35] <SemanticX> more specific
#1886 [04:35] <fogWork> Did it say hammertime?
#1887 [04:35] <nevercast> fogWork, LOL depends, Will you always use the same format?
#1888 [04:35] <mcpower> :---[D:]
#1889 [04:36] <SemanticX> java eror after it says done loading
#1890 [04:36] <fogWork> Of course, nevercast ;)
#1891 [04:36] <Draglems1> think this is a good spot to build.
#1892 [04:36] <SemanticX> thows out a jaava error log
#1893 [04:36] <Draglems1> I don't really know why i need a shovel though
#1894 [04:36] <nevercast> FUCKIN MOVE SHEEP!
#1895 [04:36] <Draglems1> Because..
#1896 [04:36] * nevercast rages at imaginary animals on a game
#1896 [04:36] <Draglems1> I build on a flat land..
#1897 [04:36] <Draglems1> ! Got it. i remember why i need a shovel now.
#1898 [04:37] <fogWork> SemanticX: pastebin the error
#1899 [04:37] <SemanticX> EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x690493d4, pid=30168, tid=33996
#1900 [04:37] <nevercast> Yeah see what happens when you get in my way? You get hit. and lose all your wool!
#1901 [04:37] <nevercast> Fuckin' sheep
#1902 [04:38] <fogWork> Java version, SemanticX?
#1903 [04:38] <GV> SemanticX, pastebin.com please
#1904 [04:38] <Draglems1> Sheep are cute ;-;
#1905 [04:38] <Draglems1> Chickens piss me off though.
#1906 [04:38] <nevercast> Least in my country sheeps stay the fuck out the way
#1907 [04:38] <SemanticX> http://pastebin.com/RTrL7vr7
#1908 [04:38] <Draglems1> ^Asoon as you said that, this black sheep just came up to me"
#1909 [04:38] <fogWork> Problematic frame:
#1910 [04:38] <fogWork> # C [atioglxx.dll+0x193d4]
#1911 [04:39] <Draglems1> *Kills it for never*
#1912 [04:39] <nevercast> Thanks Draglems1
#1913 [04:39] <nevercast> fogWork, Driver issue there
#1914 [04:39] <GV> SemanticX, Update your video drivers, ATI card
#1915 [04:39] <nevercast> or Graphics never the less
#1916 [04:39] <Draglems1> *kills the white sheep*
#1917 [04:39] <Draglems1> ALL SHEEP MUST DIE.
#1918 [04:39] <Draglems1> FINALLY, my inventory is full D:
#1919 [04:40] <SemanticX> funny story
#1920 [04:40] <mcpower> When I was your age Draglems1, I played Minecraft Alpha 1.2.2.
#1921 [04:40] <Draglems1> Sounds nice.
#1922 [04:40] <SemanticX> the latest ati drivers are broken
#1923 [04:40] <SemanticX> if i install them i cant edit video
#1924 [04:40] <Draglems1> ^
#1925 [04:40] <Draglems1> and I say.. OBJECTION!
#1926 [04:40] <SemanticX> or play any gsmes that run DirectX
#1927 [04:40] <Draglems1> Even though I have no argument to your statement.
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#1929 [04:40] <Draglems1> Chicken, would you please GTFO?
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#1931 [04:41] <Draglems1> I thought Iron ignot was silver?
#1932 [04:41] <SemanticX> right, i'll try updating my gfx drivers
#1933 [04:41] <Draglems1> diffrent texture back, idiot me
#1934 [04:41] <nevercast> GV, Is a fence, 6 sticks?
#1935 [04:41] <fogWork> You see, this is why I build wells that span all the way down to the bedrock of awesome... to push annoying livestock down
#1936 [04:41] <Draglems1> Fence = 6 sticks
#1937 [04:41] <nevercast> Thanks
#1938 [04:41] <SemanticX> fence is like a dooor on its side with sticks
#1939 [04:41] <Draglems1> (Stick stick stick)
#1940 [04:41] <Draglems1> (stick stick stick) i think.
#1941 [04:42] <mcpower> 2x3 stick.
#1942 [04:42] <fogWork> Why is the coffee gone?
#1943 [04:42] <SemanticX> right, updating drivers...
#1944 [04:43] <SemanticX> ah, thats why
#1945 [04:43] <Draglems1> Does cactus keep enemies away?(Spiders etc)
#1946 [04:43] <Draglems1> (meaning, Do they get hit by it)
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#1948 [04:43] <mcpower> yes
#1949 [04:43] <mcpower> but they can climb it
#1950 [04:43] <Draglems1> wtf?
#1951 [04:44] <Draglems1> i wanna make a window but.
#1952 [04:44] <Draglems1> Creeper will see me~
#1953 [04:44] <Draglems1> he sees me~ he sees me~ lurking in the night~ he sees me~
#1954 [04:45] <nevercast> Creeper, What's your point?
#1955 [04:45] <nevercast> They can't hurt you
#1956 [04:45] <nevercast> if you inside
#1957 [04:45] <Draglems1> they can blow up.
#1958 [04:45] <Draglems1> owait.
#1959 [04:45] <nevercast> and your windows and doors are placed correctly
#1960 [04:45] <Draglems1> does cobblestone get effected by it?
#1961 [04:45] <nevercast> yes
#1962 [04:45] <Draglems1> FML
#1963 [04:45] <nevercast> But they wont explode until they get in certain range afaik
#1964 [04:45] <Draglems1> o wait.
#1965 [04:45] <Draglems1> I can make like.
#1966 [04:46] <Draglems1> small ditch.. around my house..
#1967 [04:46] <Draglems1> enough to capture anything that comes near..
#1968 [04:46] <Draglems1> sound good?
#1969 [04:46] <Draglems1> (I know, spiders can climb up..)
#1970 [04:46] <mcpower> use something like this
#1971 [04:46] <mcpower> __
#1972 [04:46] <mcpower> |
#1973 [04:46] <nevercast> what is farm good for?
#1974 [04:47] <mcpower> to block spiders
#1975 [04:47] <Draglems1> ? @ mcpower
#1976 [04:47] <Draglems1> holy moly, a egg :D
#1977 [04:47] <Draglems1> 2nd egg :D
#1978 [04:47] <mcpower> a block hanging off a ledge to stop spiders
#1979 [04:47] <Draglems1> umm..
#1980 [04:47] <Draglems1> like..
#1981 [04:47] <Draglems1> I got no idea what you're saying?
#1982 [04:47] <Draglems1> Care to show me a picture? D:
#1983 [04:48] <mcpower> I'm on an iDevice
#1984 [04:48] <mcpower> so...
#1985 [04:48] <mcpower> basically an O is a block
#1986 [04:48] <mcpower> OO
#1987 [04:48] <mcpower> O
#1988 [04:48] <mcpower> O
#1989 [04:48] <Draglems1> ergh?
#1990 [04:48] <mcpower> when they climb the wall they bonk into the block
#1991 [04:48] <mcpower> and can't climb up
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#1993 [04:48] <Draglems1> OH
#1994 [04:48] <Draglems1> I know what you mean.
#1995 [04:49] <Draglems1> like, a 2 space ditch
#1996 [04:49] <Draglems1> with a bump at the end?
#1997 [04:49] <mcpower> I dunno what you are talking about, but at least you know what Im talking about
#1998 [04:50] <Draglems1> I think i know waht you're talking bout xD
#1999 [04:50] <mcpower> for your comfort, I'm 13.
#2000 [04:50] <Draglems1> i'll make the ditch 3 tiled.
#2001 [04:50] <Draglems1> Er.. I don't care how young you are?
#2002 [04:50] <mcpower> lol okay.
#2003 [04:51] <Draglems1> FML, shovel broke
#2004 [04:51] <Draglems1> *hopes i has sticks*
#2005 [04:51] <nevercast> I need more wood :(
#2006 [04:51] <Draglems1> kill a tree...
#2007 [04:51] <Draglems1> keel it
#2008 [04:51] <nevercast> Pick is dead
#2009 [04:51] <nevercast> and it's night
#2010 [04:51] <Draglems1> Also, does anyone else have a sound problem :/
#2011 [04:52] <mcpower> Draglems1: reinstall minecraft if you are desperate
#2012 [04:52] <Draglems1> like, The music plays one track, and thats it for a while
#2013 [04:52] <Draglems1> I've done that?
#2014 [04:52] <nevercast> Draglems1, Mine does the same
#2015 [04:52] <mcpower> oh.
#2016 [04:52] <nevercast> It's fail
#2017 [04:53] <Draglems1> Do lights scare creeper and spiders?
#2018 [04:53] <nevercast> no
#2019 [04:54] <Draglems1> fml, again.
#2020 [04:54] <mcpower> Just use a fire pit.
#2021 [04:54] <Draglems1> So basic-
#2022 [04:54] <Draglems1> where do i GET fire?
#2023 [04:54] <nevercast> fire pit does what now?
#2024 [04:54] <mcpower> Flint and steel.
#2025 [04:54] <Draglems1> where do i get steel? >_<
#2026 [04:54] <mcpower> or created by lava
#2027 [04:54] <mcpower> iron and flint
#2028 [04:54] <mcpower> basically
#2029 [04:54] <mcpower> diagonally
#2030 [04:54] <Draglems1> flint..flint..
#2031 [04:54] <mcpower> DIAGON ALLY
#2032 [04:55] <Draglems1> never heard of it.
#2033 [04:55] <nevercast> [Iron]\r\n[Space][Flint]
#2034 [04:55] <Draglems1> >_<
#2035 [04:55] <nevercast> Flint
#2036 [04:55] <nevercast> You get it from shovelling Gravel
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#2038 [04:55] <nevercast> wb Kealper
#2039 [04:55] <Draglems1> thanks~
#2040 [04:55] <Draglems1> because I've got some iron >_<
#2041 [04:56] <nevercast> I think I'm going to move my staircase over
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#2043 [04:57] <nevercast> Is it possible to put a torch on a fence?
#2044 [04:57] <Draglems1> probally not.
#2045 [04:58] <Draglems1> ./checks
#2046 [04:58] <Draglems1> Fence No
#2047 [05:00] <Draglems1> nother egg ^_^
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#2049 [05:02] <fogWork> You can make fancy lightposts though with some lightstone and fencepoles ;P
#2050 [05:03] <lemon-rev> hm
#2051 [05:03] <Draglems1> Wow
#2052 [05:03] <Draglems1> i never thought i'd run outta torches
#2053 [05:03] <lemon-rev> lol, burn wood and flank wood
#2054 [05:03] <lemon-rev> get charcoal
#2055 [05:03] <Draglems1> got more.
#2056 [05:04] <lemon-rev> never ending quest to keep touches running :)
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#2058 [05:06] <Draglems1> i want to leave my house
#2059 [05:06] <Draglems1> to get some supplys but these chickens will go flying.
#2060 [05:06] <Draglems1> any soluti-
#2061 [05:06] <Draglems1> ..*Builds a chimley*
#2062 [05:06] <lemon-rev> bah
#2063 [05:06] <lemon-rev> if you let a few out who cares, just get your supplies
#2064 [05:06] <lemon-rev> lol
#2065 [05:07] <Draglems1> Chicken are chickens.
#2066 [05:07] <lemon-rev> or make a new exit :)
#2067 [05:07] <Draglems1> Chickens are my friends.
#2068 [05:07] <lemon-rev> hahahha chickens are only good for one thing
#2069 [05:07] <Draglems1> ./Smokes a pipe
#2070 [05:07] <lemon-rev> thats feathers lol
#2071 [05:07] <Draglems1> OBJECTION!
#2072 [05:07] <Draglems1> ./As Epic music started to play, as I slammed my hands onto a desk/
#2073 [05:07] <Draglems1> Chickens ALSO produce eggs!~
#2074 [05:08] <Draglems1> "GACK!!"
#2075 [05:08] <lemon-rev> hm, well appart from eggs that hatch when next happens lol
#2076 [05:08] <Draglems1> eggs hatch?
#2077 [05:08] <Draglems1> ..'
#2078 [05:08] <Draglems1> i've been dumping them ;_;
#2079 [05:09] <Draglems1> Right, you can throw eggs and do damage?
#2080 [05:09] <lemon-rev> yes
#2081 [05:10] <Draglems1> . . .. .
#2082 [05:10] <Draglems1> ./farms chickens
#2083 [05:10] <lemon-rev> i would like to but every time i have tryed my self for that they disappar literally in front of me if i just sit there waiting for them to hatch eggs and drop eggs
#2084 [05:13] <Draglems1> eggs can hatch?
#2085 [05:14] <lemon-rev> of course they can
#2086 [05:14] <lemon-rev> just at random
#2087 [05:15] <Draglems1> how?
#2088 [05:15] <Draglems1> do you leave them uncollected?
#2089 [05:16] <lemon-rev> well yes basicly
#2090 [05:16] <Draglems1> So don't collect em?
#2091 [05:16] <lemon-rev> sometimes they will hatch if you throw them
#2092 [05:16] <lemon-rev> sometimes they will hach just out of the blue
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#2094 [05:17] <nevercast> I'm waiting for my saplings to 'hatch
#2095 [05:17] <Draglems1> Never, you'll be a good father.
#2096 [05:17] <Draglems1> Look after your baby trees.
#2097 [05:18] <nevercast> :)
#2098 [05:18] <nevercast> Dude.. I am a good father
#2099 [05:18] <nevercast> my kid loves me
#2100 [05:18] <Draglems1> any way i can g-
#2101 [05:18] <Draglems1> nvm.
#2102 [05:18] <Draglems1> figure it out C:
#2103 [05:18] <Draglems1> how to make chickens stay in one area.
#2104 [05:18] <nevercast> :)
#2105 [05:18] <nevercast> they can't jump fences
#2106 [05:19] <Draglems1> but how will they get IN the fence?
#2107 [05:19] <nevercast> no idea
#2108 [05:19] * nevercast looks at his castle grounds roaming with animals
#2108 [05:19] <nevercast> When you work it out. Let me know.
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#2110 [05:20] <lemon-rev> no enemys and everything including you i think appart mayhap from spiders could climb out of it, or fences per say
#2111 [05:20] <Draglems1> fuck sake
#2112 [05:20] <Draglems1> I just killed a chicken.
#2113 [05:20] <Draglems1> how can i round up chickens i wonder.
#2114 [05:20] <lemon-rev> hahaha
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#2116 [05:20] <lemon-rev> collect eggs
#2117 [05:20] <Draglems1> good idea.
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#2119 [05:21] <Draglems1> WOOT, another chicken!
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#2121 [05:28] <Draglems1> you can furnace cobble? >_<
#2122 [05:28] <Draglems1> for a STONE?
#2123 [05:28] <Draglems1> ..ow
#2124 [05:28] <nevercast> really?
#2125 [05:28] <Draglems1> Yea
#2126 [05:28] <nevercast> what kinda stone?
#2127 [05:28] <lemon-rev> yes
#2128 [05:28] <Draglems1> STONE.
#2129 [05:29] <lemon-rev> cobble=smelted = stone
#2130 [05:29] <lemon-rev> but im like unless you really wanted that look i would say its a waste of time
#2131 [05:32] <Draglems1> Another egg, another chicken.
#2132 [05:33] <nevercast> Dude
#2133 [05:33] <nevercast> I HAVE wanted that look
#2134 [05:33] <nevercast> Damn it man
#2135 [05:33] <nevercast> I wish I knew about this
#2136 [05:33] <lemon-rev> what look ?
#2137 [05:33] <Draglems1> I want to turn peaceful off.
#2138 [05:33] <Draglems1> but.. I just can't defend my self out there :/
#2139 [05:33] <lemon-rev> lol
#2140 [05:34] <lemon-rev> get arrows
#2141 [05:34] <Draglems1> Like when i was pretty much cornered.
#2142 [05:34] <lemon-rev> and get a bow
#2143 [05:34] <Draglems1> 2 skeletons , 1 creeper.
#2144 [05:34] <lemon-rev> lol
#2145 [05:34] <Draglems1> ;_;
#2146 [05:34] <lemon-rev> so use creaper to blwo the crap out of the skeletons
#2147 [05:34] <Draglems1> or was it 1 skeleton 1 creper.
#2148 [05:34] <Draglems1> creeper*
#2149 [05:34] <Draglems1> not when its right behind you?
#2150 [05:34] <lemon-rev> bow and arrows best
#2151 [05:34] <lemon-rev> lol, jump away from it lol
#2152 [05:35] <lemon-rev> learn how to make armor
#2153 [05:35] <lemon-rev> and stop being a pussy
#2154 [05:35] <nevercast> You can make armor?
#2155 [05:35] <lemon-rev> yes
#2156 [05:35] <Draglems1> I can make it.
#2157 [05:35] <Draglems1> but...
#2158 [05:35] <nevercast> HOLY CRAP
#2159 [05:35] <Draglems1> I'm short on materials.
#2160 [05:35] <Draglems1> I can't find enough cows for leather.
#2161 [05:35] <nevercast> And hear I am going Hand-To-Exploding Creeper, Combat!
#2162 [05:36] <nevercast> And I could have armor
#2163 [05:36] <lemon-rev> hm
#2164 [05:36] <nevercast> *here
#2165 [05:36] <lemon-rev> theres other things you can use
#2166 [05:36] <lemon-rev> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting < nevercast
#2167 [05:36] <nevercast> Draglems1, Find a flat area, Cover it in lighting
#2168 [05:36] <nevercast> Draglems1, It will attract cows, pigs, chickens, sheep
#2169 [05:36] <lemon-rev> if its green and big enough area yes
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#2171 [05:36] <nevercast> yes
#2172 [05:37] <nevercast> And I do a lot of landscaping
#2173 [05:37] <nevercast> Then wait for the grass
#2174 [05:37] <nevercast> then plant like 20 trees
#2175 [05:37] <lemon-rev> how new are you to this game ?
#2176 [05:37] <nevercast> Me?
#2177 [05:37] <lemon-rev> yes
#2178 [05:37] <Draglems1> What creates a pickaxe again?
#2179 [05:37] <nevercast> I bought it like last weekend or maybe weekend before
#2180 [05:37] <nevercast> So about a week
#2181 [05:37] <lemon-rev> wow
#2182 [05:37] <lemon-rev> ok
#2183 [05:37] <lemon-rev> sweet
#2184 [05:38] <lemon-rev> well look at that link
#2185 [05:39] <Draglems1> FUCK
#2186 [05:39] <Draglems1> Accidently made wooden pickaxe.
#2187 [05:39] <Draglems1> wasn't thinking.
#2188 [05:39] <lemon-rev> hahahah thats funny, oh well now jus use it
#2189 [05:40] <nevercast> OMG
#2190 [05:40] <nevercast> There are axes
#2191 [05:40] <nevercast> I thought cutting trees with a pick was stupid
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#2193 [05:40] <Draglems1> OH HOW FUCKING GREAT
#2194 [05:40] <lemon-rev> it is
#2195 [05:40] <Draglems1> I accidently thrown a EGG at a CHICKEN
#2196 [05:40] <nevercast> lol.
#2197 [05:40] <Draglems1> and the chicken went KAZOOMB and DISSAPEARED.
#2198 [05:41] <lemon-rev> nevercast you use an axe to cut wood fast
#2199 [05:41] <nevercast> lemon-rev, as a spade to dig dirt and sand
#2200 [05:41] <lemon-rev> hahahahha
#2201 [05:41] <nevercast> lemon-rev, Yeah I just didn't know the recipe for it
#2202 [05:41] <lemon-rev> yes
#2203 [05:41] <lemon-rev> well thats why i just gave you a crap load of info on that wiki site
#2204 [05:42] <Draglems1> don't you get string
#2205 [05:42] <Draglems1> from spiders only?
#2206 [05:42] <nevercast> Holy crap
#2207 [05:42] <nevercast> 100 blocks of Track would take forever to get all that iron
#2208 [05:43] <lemon-rev> yup
#2209 [05:43] <lemon-rev> well dont use track, then
#2210 [05:43] <lemon-rev> and theres shitloads of iron near bedrock
#2211 [05:44] <Draglems1> ^THANK YOU
#2212 [05:44] <Draglems1> I'VE BEEN SEARCHING HOURS OF MY TIME FOR IRON.
#2213 [05:44] <Draglems1> *gets prepared and goes to bedrock*
#2214 [05:44] <Draglems1> ..owait..
#2215 [05:44] <Draglems1> I might hit lava :/ any suggestions?
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#2217 [05:44] <Elvang> Go to the 12th floor
#2218 [05:44] <lemon-rev> dragiems1 you find lava near top middle and lower rounds of mc
#2219 [05:44] <Draglems1> ^mc?"
#2220 [05:45] <lemon-rev> and also minerals appear more down near b edrock but it doesnt mean you might spend some time hunting for it
#2221 [05:45] <lemon-rev> mc = minecraft
#2222 [05:45] <Elvang> I've yet to mine into lava while at 12z, tons of it at 11 and lower though Draglems1
#2223 [05:45] <Draglems1> i met lava once :/
#2224 [05:45] <Draglems1> it pretty mch was so scary >_<
#2225 [05:45] <Draglems1> i was like.. Don't go too close.. just gonna keep on digging..
#2226 [05:45] <lemon-rev> well just make sure you have plenty of space to run backwards lol
#2227 [05:46] <lemon-rev> also feathers you can get from zombies
#2228 [05:46] <Elvang> First time I met lava I treated it like some super rare thing and collected it all in buckets for later use x(
#2229 [05:46] <Draglems1> ^loser
#2230 [05:46] <Draglems1> Oh, I'm joking
#2231 [05:46] <Draglems1> I would've done the same thing C:
#2232 [05:46] <Elvang> :p
#2233 [05:46] <lemon-rev> lol, well you dont have to but theres crap loads of it, everywhere you just have to come across it
#2234 [05:46] <Draglems1> okay so
#2235 [05:46] <Draglems1> i need to dig 12 floors down?
#2236 [05:47] <lemon-rev> hm
#2237 [05:47] <lemon-rev> maybe more
#2238 [05:47] <lemon-rev> but digging is good
#2239 [05:47] <lemon-rev> i have a hole thats like 25 spaces or more down
#2240 [05:47] <nevercast> Elvang, I did the same thing when I found lava
#2241 [05:47] <nevercast> Elvang, I also played with it for hours by changing spawns and making channels with cobblestone
#2242 [05:47] <Draglems1> I don't get it
#2243 [05:48] <Draglems1> how come World of warcraft is on the community part of MC?
#2244 [05:48] <Elvang> Mostly so I could later make obsidian structures, but said screw it cause anything bigger than a portal was going to take too long. Even then, I cheated on the corners of the portal too ;).
#2245 [05:48] <Draglems1> when WOM hosts hacks?
#2246 [05:48] <Draglems1> hit gold :/
#2247 [05:49] <Draglems1> WTF?
#2248 [05:49] <Draglems1> WHY DID A PIG JUST COME FLYING DOWN?
#2249 [05:49] <Draglems1> on fire?
#2250 [05:49] <lemon-rev> lol wtf
#2251 [05:49] <Draglems1> i was digging and digging
#2252 [05:49] <Draglems1> and looked up and a fire ball just came down
#2253 [05:49] <Draglems1> it was a PIG on fire.
#2254 [05:50] <lemon-rev> hahahahha
#2255 [05:50] <lemon-rev> well must have gotten the hots :P
#2256 [05:50] <Elvang> xD
#2257 [05:50] <Draglems1> XD
#2258 [05:51] <Draglems1> confused
#2259 [05:51] <lemon-rev> ?
#2260 [05:51] <Draglems1> >_<
#2261 [05:51] <Draglems1> i kept digging
#2262 [05:51] <Draglems1> and i hit the bottom
#2263 [05:51] <Draglems1> every where i dig now is bedrock
#2264 [05:51] <lemon-rev> hm
#2265 [05:52] <lemon-rev> ok, so you got as low as you can, does that mean tehres like at least 3 layers of bedrock ?
#2266 [05:52] <Draglems1> I don't know.
#2267 [05:52] <Elvang> Hold F3 to see your coordinates. Use that instead of bedrock to find your z-level :)
#2268 [05:52] <lemon-rev> take bedrock level and move mine 1 block above bedrock, but even at bedrock you can come across some strange crap, i have a lava pit at bedrock level
#2269 [05:53] <Draglems1> Wtf?
#2270 [05:53] <Draglems1> a chicken is in bedrock?
#2271 [05:53] <lemon-rev> lol
#2272 [05:53] <nevercast> Night guys
#2273 [05:53] <lemon-rev> could be glitch,
#2274 [05:53] <Elvang> http://i55.tinypic.com/259vdxk.png <- Thats how I stored my magma after finding out that dropping a bucket of magma onto another source of magma destroys it >_>
#2275 [05:53] <lemon-rev> night
#2276 [05:54] <Elvang> Cya
#2277 [05:54] <Draglems1> nice place you got there Elvang.
#2278 [05:54] <lemon-rev> interesting
#2279 [05:54] <Draglems1> my place is only a small dirt house.
#2280 [05:55] <Elvang> Everytime I come up to get more picks and drop of loot I drop 6 more buckets worth of magma :)
#2281 [05:55] <Elvang> So I can count how many stone picks I've gone through by how many magma squares I have done ;)
#2282 [05:55] <Draglems1> i suppose lava is very handul to have as a secruity.
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#2284 [05:56] <lemon-rev> hm
#2285 [05:56] <Theta> hey all =)
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#2287 [05:56] <lemon-rev> i suppose but it can also be used as a pit of unlimted cobblestone
#2288 [05:56] <lemon-rev> theta hey
#2289 [05:56] <Theta> just bought minecraft, colours are all stuffed up, any ideas?
#2290 [05:57] <lemon-rev> what exactly do you mean all messed up
#2291 [05:57] <lemon-rev> ?
#2292 [05:57] <lemon-rev> and you make a pic and upload to say tinypic
#2293 [05:57] <lemon-rev> please
#2294 [05:57] <Draglems1> update java.
#2295 [05:57] <lemon-rev> and maybe update java + video drivers theta
#2296 [05:58] <Elvang> Try a texture pack, maybe the texture image file just got corrupted
#2297 [05:58] <Theta> ah sorted, was something to do with 3rd graphics :D
#2298 [05:58] <Draglems1> The :D smiley
#2299 [05:58] <Draglems1> is so gay.
#2300 [05:58] <Theta> bah
#2301 [05:59] <Elvang> lol
#2302 [06:02] <Draglems1> that was a waste of my time.
#2303 [06:02] <Draglems1> everywhere I dag was bedrock.
#2304 [06:03] <Draglems1> WTF?
#2305 [06:03] <Draglems1> MY CHICKENS, ESCAPED?!
#2306 [06:03] <lemon-rev> hm
#2307 [06:03] <lemon-rev> wtf drag bedrock doesnt cover walls lol
#2308 [06:03] <Draglems1> wait
#2309 [06:03] <lemon-rev> but it does cover the ground lol
#2310 [06:03] <Draglems1> bedrock is that thing
#2311 [06:03] <Draglems1> that you can't break right?
#2312 [06:03] <lemon-rev> correct
#2313 [06:03] <Draglems1> look tohugh
#2314 [06:03] <lemon-rev> theres obsidian thats verry dark
#2315 [06:03] <Draglems1> ./uploads pic
#2316 [06:05] <Draglems1> http://i56.tinypic.com/157nqs9.jpg ?
#2317 [06:05] <lemon-rev> ok thats bedrock
#2318 [06:06] <lemon-rev> and it can be 3 layers thick
#2319 [06:06] <lemon-rev> so like 3 sqares down
#2320 [06:06] <lemon-rev> but 3rd layer is flat
#2321 [06:06] <Draglems1> but
#2322 [06:06] <Draglems1> i couldn't go down any more
#2323 [06:06] <lemon-rev> correct
#2324 [06:06] <lemon-rev> looks like your standing on 3rd layer
#2325 [06:06] <lemon-rev> you cant go futher down
#2326 [06:06] <lemon-rev> only up
#2327 [06:07] <Draglems1> DOH
#2328 [06:07] <Draglems1> WOOHOO
#2329 [06:07] <Draglems1> A BUNCH OF SUGAR CANES
#2330 [06:08] <Elvang> In your mine?...
#2331 [06:08] <Draglems1> no
#2332 [06:08] <Draglems1> I left :/
#2333 [06:08] <Draglems1> Do animals eat sugar canes?
#2334 [06:08] <Elvang> Not that I know of
#2335 [06:08] <lemon-rev> no
#2336 [06:08] <Draglems1> Thanks.
#2337 [06:09] <Draglems1> i need a hoe, right?
#2338 [06:09] <Draglems1> *snicker* Hoe..
#2339 [06:09] <Draglems1> Hahahha
#2340 [06:10] <Draglems1> Disconnected.
#2341 [06:10] <Draglems1> >_M
#2342 [06:10] <lemon-rev> lol
#2343 [06:10] <Draglems1> i need a hoe, right?
#2344 [06:10] <Draglems1> to plant?
#2345 [06:10] <lemon-rev> a hoe eats at grass and can make
#2346 [06:11] <lemon-rev> dirt but you can get cane from grass
#2347 [06:11] <Draglems1> I don't need a hoe to grow sugar?
#2348 [06:11] <lemon-rev> hm,
#2349 [06:11] <lemon-rev> sugar cane i belive comes from vine
#2350 [06:11] <lemon-rev> doesnt it
#2351 [06:11] <lemon-rev> or am i getting confused
#2352 [06:12] <Draglems1> dude
#2353 [06:12] <Draglems1> how did my chickens gtfo?
#2354 [06:12] <Draglems1> of the cage?
#2355 [06:12] <Draglems1> it was 3 ditches down
#2356 [06:12] <Draglems1> they can't fly out..
#2357 [06:13] <Draglems1> Err
#2358 [06:13] <Draglems1> i can't grow sugar cane?
#2359 [06:13] <Elvang> If you leave the area, minecraft stops keeping track of mobs.
#2360 [06:13] <Draglems1> just got seeds :o
#2361 [06:13] <Draglems1> wonder what type.
#2362 [06:15] <lemon-rev> from where grass ?
#2363 [06:15] <Draglems1> Yes
#2364 [06:16] <lemon-rev> ok that should be cane and you grow it on dirt, just make sure grass doesnt over grow it lol
#2365 [06:16] <Draglems1> does it need
#2366 [06:16] <Draglems1> to have water
#2367 [06:16] <Draglems1> ?
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#2370 [06:16] <Draglems1> urgh, i did it again XDD.
#2371 [06:17] <lemon-rev> i dont belive so
#2372 [06:22] <Draglems1> whats the easiest way to get iron?
#2373 [06:22] <Draglems1> ;/ I CAN'T FIND ANYY
#2374 [06:23] <lemon-rev> hm
#2375 [06:23] <lemon-rev> best way is keep digging, use plenty of cobblestone
#2376 [06:23] <lemon-rev> iron try not to waste till you got almost 64 lol i have atm 59 on my new area in an old map
#2377 [06:24] <lemon-rev> but i got craploads of it, maybe about 300 iron so far
#2378 [06:24] <lemon-rev> i could send you this world or even upload it i suppose you could check it out massive world lol
#2379 [06:26] <Draglems1> do you has rails? :-;
#2380 [06:27] <lemon-rev> nope
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#2382 [06:28] <Draglems1> Odd..
#2383 [06:29] <Draglems1> my canes didn't grow..
#2384 [06:29] <lemon-rev> they grow really slowly
#2385 [06:29] <Draglems1> No, the seeds dissapared.
#2386 [06:29] <lemon-rev> and i told you to keep grass away from em
#2387 [06:29] <lemon-rev> hm
#2388 [06:29] <lemon-rev> odd
#2389 [06:33] <Elvang> Canes need to be next to water don't they?
#2390 [06:33] <Draglems1> they where
#2391 [06:34] <lemon-rev> well at least kinda level with it
#2392 [06:34] <lemon-rev> yes
#2393 [06:34] <Draglems1> Dear Minecraft Journal: I encountered 3 cows, I slaughtered them and I hope they all drop 2 leather each.
#2394 [06:34] <lemon-rev> and you found that they didnt lol
#2395 [06:35] <Draglems1> Yeah :/
#2396 [06:35] <Draglems1> They didn't :/
#2397 [06:36] <Draglems1> 4 COWS!
#2398 [06:37] <lemon-rev> 4 cows i bet you got 3 hides, or was that 2
#2399 [06:37] <Draglems1> ?
#2400 [06:37] <Draglems1> holy crap
#2401 [06:37] <Draglems1> so amny cows
#2402 [06:37] <lemon-rev> hide ie what you get from cow
#2403 [06:37] <lemon-rev> slaughter assult lol
#2404 [06:38] <Draglems1> 6/8 of the mdropped leather
#2405 [06:38] <Draglems1> 4 of them was 2 leather in one kill
#2406 [06:38] <lemon-rev> nice
#2407 [06:38] <lemon-rev> what you useing a iron sword ?
#2408 [06:39] <Draglems1> Right then i was using m y fists
#2409 [06:39] <Draglems1> cause my stone sword just broke.
#2410 [06:39] <Draglems1> + i've only got 4 iron left.
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#2412 [06:40] <lemon-rev> hm, well stop useing iron to mine lol
#2413 [06:40] <Draglems1> i'm not..
#2414 [06:40] <Draglems1> i'm using stone
#2415 [06:40] <lemon-rev> ...
#2416 [06:40] <Draglems1> stne pickaxe, stone hoe.
#2417 [06:40] <lemon-rev> stone everything but swords lol :P
#2418 [06:41] <Draglems1> cooking som porkc chops
#2419 [06:41] <Draglems1> i'm gonna try and attempt
#2420 [06:41] <Draglems1> to stay alive.
#2421 [06:41] <Draglems1> the night.
#2422 [06:41] <lemon-rev> im uploading my world and like going to share it but i made it world 2
#2423 [06:41] <lemon-rev> hum, i wont advise you to try to survive a night , but good luck , and have fun, cause theres plenty of distuction to be had
#2424 [06:41] <lemon-rev> lol
#2425 [06:42] <Draglems1> obviously, block the doors
#2426 [06:42] <Draglems1> i just want to see if i can survive a night.
#2427 [06:42] <lemon-rev> yup
#2428 [06:42] <Draglems1> i just hope creper don't come
#2429 [06:42] <Draglems1> if they do, I just press esc and change to easy C:
#2430 [06:42] <Draglems1> peaceful*
#2431 [06:42] <lemon-rev> naa they come and you just learn how to like move so they dont blow up when you attack
#2432 [06:43] <Draglems1> OH YEAH
#2433 [06:43] <lemon-rev> oh btw best if your on higher ground when creepers are near
#2434 [06:43] <Draglems1> when you hit creepers
#2435 [06:43] <Draglems1> they fly back abit.
#2436 [06:43] <Draglems1> i should be save ^_^
#2437 [06:43] <lemon-rev> yup
#2438 [06:43] <Draglems1> safe*
#2439 [06:43] <Draglems1> just the damn spiders.
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#2441 [06:43] <lemon-rev> hahahaha
#2442 [06:43] <Draglems1> I hope they don't fall in love with me.
#2443 [06:43] <Draglems1> cause they look at me, with there strong, cute red eyes.
#2444 [06:43] <Draglems1> They drool, look so superfly.
#2445 [06:43] <lemon-rev> lol
#2446 [06:44] <lemon-rev> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9CALYSY2
#2447 [06:44] <lemon-rev> oh doh lol
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#2449 [06:45] <lemon-rev> wen i uploaded this i had fine , ok thats kewl, then it asked me to send and i thought wat wtf, anyway, put 'a' in box so now it says world 2, discripton is a
#2450 [06:45] <lemon-rev> lol
#2451 [06:45] <mib_ipadid> HI @ all
#2452 [06:45] <Draglems1> i'd download it but
#2453 [06:45] <Draglems1> idk how :/
#2454 [06:45] <Draglems1> to install and stuff
#2455 [06:45] <lemon-rev> oh easy
#2456 [06:45] <lemon-rev> what os you running
#2457 [06:46] <Draglems1> Windows
#2458 [06:46] <lemon-rev> bah
#2459 [06:46] <lemon-rev> what version
#2460 [06:46] <lemon-rev> win 7
#2461 [06:46] <Draglems1> XP
#2462 [06:46] <lemon-rev> vista
#2463 [06:46] <lemon-rev> xp
#2464 [06:46] <lemon-rev> oh
#2465 [06:46] <lemon-rev> C:\Documents and Settings\crystal\Application Data\.minecraft\saves
#2466 [06:46] <lemon-rev> but change the cristal
#2467 [06:46] <Draglems1> crystal? <_>
#2468 [06:46] <lemon-rev> to your
#2469 [06:46] <lemon-rev> computer name
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#2471 [06:46] <lemon-rev> im runing a version called crystal xp
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#2473 [06:47] <lemon-rev> do you have winrar
#2474 [06:47] <Draglems1> what am i supposed to do with that?
#2475 [06:47] <Draglems1> and yes, I have it
#2476 [06:47] <mib_ipadid> is anyone able to help me?
#2477 [06:47] <Draglems1> ^Ask away.
#2478 [06:47] <lemon-rev> well did you find your save's
#2479 [06:47] <Draglems1> no
#2480 [06:48] <lemon-rev> mib whats the trouble
#2481 [06:48] <mib_ipadid> i want the normal Texture Pack
#2482 [06:48] <Draglems1> I don't know what to do with that.
#2483 [06:48] <Draglems1> C:\Documents and Settings\crystal\Application Data\.minecraft\saves.
#2484 [06:48] <lemon-rev> i said
#2485 [06:48] <mib_ipadid> i used a texture Mod, but now i want the normal back...
#2486 [06:48] <lemon-rev> change the crystal
#2487 [06:48] <Draglems1> I DID
#2488 [06:48] <Draglems1> but it says something like
#2489 [06:48] <Draglems1> its already on the computer
#2490 [06:48] <Draglems1> or something, cant' remember
#2491 [06:48] <Draglems1> it just pops up with a error
#2492 [06:48] <Draglems1> idk what to do with it, do i search it? run it?
#2493 [06:48] <lemon-rev> well then delete the texture pack thingi in your directory and hopeminecraft redownloadsit
#2494 [06:49] <lemon-rev> or just kill the /bin directory
#2495 [06:49] <mib_ipadid> it replaced the original...
#2496 [06:49] <lemon-rev> drag goto my documents
#2497 [06:49] <Draglems1> shit, spiders..
#2498 [06:49] <lemon-rev> hm
#2499 [06:49] <lemon-rev> prehapse mib not sure, dont work with mods here, really but,
#2500 [06:49] <mib_ipadid> and i have a very good save i want to play still on...
#2501 [06:49] <mib_ipadid> i know, but with the original, not?
#2502 [06:50] <lemon-rev> try and delete the texturepacks directory
#2503 [06:50] <lemon-rev> and see what happens
#2504 [06:50] <mib_ipadid> ok.....
#2505 [06:51] <mib_ipadid> a black screen...
#2506 [06:51] <lemon-rev> hm
#2507 [06:51] <lemon-rev> ok
#2508 [06:51] <lemon-rev> delete everything but the saves directory
#2509 [06:52] <mib_ipadid> ah, now it resettet to the mod texture pack...
#2510 [06:52] <lemon-rev> and get minecraft to redownload the files
#2511 [06:52] <mib_ipadid> ok...
#2512 [06:52] <Draglems1> how can i tell what time of day it is?
#2513 [06:52] <Draglems1> i have music playing so idk >_<
#2514 [06:52] <lemon-rev> ok
#2515 [06:52] <Draglems1> can't open the roof because theres PROBALLY spiders up there or a creeper
#2516 [06:52] <lemon-rev> drag when music plays its eiter almost day or almost night
#2517 [06:52] <Draglems1> its like
#2518 [06:52] <Draglems1> happy music
#2519 [06:52] <lemon-rev> drag get a sword and bear the grunt of the game
#2520 [06:52] <lemon-rev> yes
#2521 [06:53] <Draglems1> Okay
#2522 [06:53] <Draglems1> wish me luck.
#2523 [06:53] <Draglems1> HRAAAAAA
#2524 [06:53] <lemon-rev> no
#2525 [06:53] <lemon-rev> lol
#2526 [06:53] <Draglems1> something out there.
#2527 [06:53] <Draglems1> its whiteish
#2528 [06:53] <mib_ipadid> ok, thanks, i think it works...
#2529 [06:53] <Draglems1> Sheep.
#2530 [06:53] <lemon-rev> what you mean mib
#2531 [06:53] <Draglems1> i'ma open my roof k?
#2532 [06:53] <lemon-rev> drag mayhap sheep come in colors now lol
#2533 [06:53] <Draglems1> cause i can defend my self i think
#2534 [06:54] <lemon-rev> np
#2535 [06:54] <Draglems1> if a spider or something falls throuh
#2536 [06:54] <lemon-rev> mib
#2537 [06:54] <Draglems1> can creeper climb up walls..?
#2538 [06:54] <lemon-rev> no
#2539 [06:54] <lemon-rev> only spiders
#2540 [06:54] <Draglems1> nothing there..
#2541 [06:54] <Draglems1> i wonder what this noise is hten
#2542 [06:54] <Draglems1> it sounds like a creepe
#2543 [06:54] <lemon-rev> np then drag
#2544 [06:54] <Draglems1> but its also going "shhh"
#2545 [06:54] <Draglems1> "Sllsh"
#2546 [06:54] <lemon-rev> thats spider unless its sssssss
#2547 [06:54] <lemon-rev> lol
#2548 [06:55] <Draglems1> spider then :/
#2549 [06:55] <Draglems1> god i'm scared.
#2550 [06:55] <Draglems1> can you break mob spawner, btw
#2551 [06:55] <lemon-rev> yes
#2552 [06:55] <lemon-rev> either pick axe or
#2553 [06:55] <Draglems1> what does it look like
#2554 [06:55] <lemon-rev> put touches right around it
#2555 [06:55] <lemon-rev> hm, small box like a cage
#2556 [06:55] <lemon-rev> you will know it when you see it
#2557 [06:56] <lemon-rev> so drag did you still want to test that world
#2558 [06:56] <lemon-rev> ?
#2559 [06:56] <Draglems1> i would but..
#2560 [06:56] <Draglems1> um.. i can't
#2561 [06:56] <lemon-rev> why not
#2562 [06:56] <Draglems1> i don't want to explain.
#2563 [06:56] <lemon-rev> i can tell you how
#2564 [06:56] <lemon-rev> hahahaha
#2565 [06:56] <lemon-rev> ok
#2566 [06:56] <lemon-rev> then
#2567 [06:56] <lemon-rev> well im going to bed then lol its 11 pm
#2568 [06:57] <lemon-rev> at niht
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#2571 [06:58] <fogWork> Hooleeh shit, one of the ladies at work burned one off, and god... it reeks
#2572 [07:00] <fogWork> Door wont keep it out D;
#2573 [07:00] <fogWork> Silent, deadly, creeping
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#2582 [07:30] <fogWork> Well, thats odd... a player on my server dares me to teleport to him, I teleport to him and... boom, I'm dropping from the clouds to the ground
#2583 [07:31] <Elvang> heh
#2584 [07:31] <fogWork> Methinks this particular player has hax
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#2586 [07:36] <feenyx> or just a dirt pillar?
#2587 [07:38] <fogWork> Waaaay above the clouds and the limits for blocks, nothing under him either
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#2589 [07:43] <fogWork> Ah well, I'll check the logs later
#2590 [07:50] <Iguana> good thing you had a parachute
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#2596 [08:01] <SFX_Acidic> woot <3 MChelpbot for answering my question lol
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#2598 [08:04] <feenyx> it should have a return trigger for !yes or !no depending on whether or not the automatically generated messages were helpful
#2599 [08:04] <feenyx> and then a script to output "XX Served!" whenever it gets a !yes
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#2603 [08:52] <Gem62> Hi Plz somebody can help me to run Minecraft ? i have a error text " Could not create the java virtual machine" i tried to find a forum but it doesn't work (i have crate a .bat but don't work)
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#2606 [08:55] <Gem62> Hi Plz somebody can help me to run Minecraft ? i have a error text " Could not create the java virtual machine" i tried to find a forum but nothing work (i have create a .bat but don't work)
#2607 [08:58] <Gem62> Hi Plz somebody can help me to run Minecraft ? i have a error text " Could not create the java virtual machine" i tried to find a forum but nothing work (i have create a .bat but don't work)
#2608 [09:00] <elmo> Gem62: spam doesn't make the progress faster
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#2611 [09:08] <SFX_Acidic> Question: My friend doesn't want his IP out in the open. Can he use dyndns.com for people to connect to?
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#2613 [09:12] <SFX_Acidic> ?
#2614 [09:13] <Gem62> don't worried nobody answer me ^^'
#2615 [09:15] <SFX_Acidic> lol
#2616 [09:15] <SFX_Acidic> Are you trying to make a server?
#2617 [09:16] <Gem62> nop minecraft doesn't work for me
#2618 [09:17] <Gem62> i have tried lot of thing but nothin ( i don't speak english very well)
#2619 [09:17] <SFX_Acidic> go to www.java.com
#2620 [09:17] <SFX_Acidic> What's the latest version you have
#2621 [09:17] <elmo> SFX_Acidic: dyndns just makes a "shortcut" to the IP
#2622 [09:17] <elmo> if you ping the dyndns-adress you'll get his IP
#2623 [09:18] <Gem62> i havei have up my version last hour ^^
#2624 [09:18] <SFX_Acidic> So that's a yes elmo my friend can use dyndns so his real IP isn't out
#2625 [09:18] <elmo> SFX_Acidic: DynDNS don't mask the IP
#2626 [09:18] <elmo> makes no sense, just easier to remember the adress
#2627 [09:18] <SFX_Acidic> Ah
#2628 [09:18] <elmo> 123.43.53.124 or myip.dyndns.org ?
#2629 [09:19] <elmo> which it the easiest to remeber? :P
#2630 [09:19] <SFX_Acidic> Well he doesn't want his IP in the public. He wants to have a spoof one that connects to his server
#2631 [09:20] <SFX_Acidic> Also he just asked "how much incoming badwidth and outgoing is this goin to use?"
#2632 [09:21] <elmo> SFX_Acidic: 1. He can use a proxy/VPN. But that's kinda slowing down the connection
#2633 [09:21] <elmo> 2. Depends on how many people that'll pay
#2634 [09:21] <elmo> play*
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#2636 [09:21] <SFX_Acidic> 10 tops
#2637 [09:22] <elmo> i have a friend that runs a server with ~10 people, can he's using a 3mbit uplink
#2638 [09:22] <elmo> Ofcourse, more bandwidth isn't bad ;p
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#2640 [09:22] <elmo> 300kbit/s*
#2641 [09:23] <SFX_Acidic> well my friend is like 30 down 15 up
#2642 [09:23] <elmo> 15mbit?
#2643 [09:24] <elmo> or 1.5mbit?
#2644 [09:24] <SFX_Acidic> 15MB
#2645 [09:24] <elmo> 150mbit?
#2646 [09:24] <elmo> 15MB == 150mbit ;p
#2647 [09:24] <SFX_Acidic> 15 megabytes lol
#2648 [09:24] <SFX_Acidic> ahhh
#2649 [09:24] <elmo> 15mbit i guess
#2650 [09:24] <SFX_Acidic> hold on I'll grab his speedtest on his connection
#2651 [09:25] <elmo> and that is enough for 10 players, if you count the bandwidth
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#2653 [09:25] <elmo> Ofcourse CPU and RAM is more important, imo.
#2654 [09:25] <SFX_Acidic> http://www.enigmavision.com/kona/speedtestandquestions.png
#2655 [09:25] <SFX_Acidic> seems i thought it was more lol
#2656 [09:26] <elmo> well, that's enought for 10 people, imo.
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#2658 [09:26] <elmo> What's the setup of the server that you going to use for hosting?
#2659 [09:27] <SFX_Acidic> He has a AMD Phenom II x4 3.4 Black Edition - Overclocked to 3.7 Coolermaster V8 cpu cooler, dual 1TB Drives in RAID 0, ATI Radeon HD 5770, 8 GB Partiot G series memory
#2660 [09:27] <Morkai> Is it possible to change his name?
#2661 [09:28] <Morkai> (Login ID)
#2662 [09:28] <elmo> SFX_Acidic: that's well enough :>
#2663 [09:28] <SFX_Acidic> His computer will just be host and we connect to IP
#2664 [09:29] <Swompie`> hey, I'm playing around with the textures.png, but can't get minecraft to load it :S All it does is loading the default texture: compress it to .zip -> put it into texturepacks folder -> load it in minecraft, i'm on a mac if that helps
#2665 [09:30] <Swompie`> when downloading some 16x16 texture it works
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#2668 [09:35] <Morkai> Is it possible to change his LoginID on minecraft.net?
#2669 [09:35] <elmo> Morkai: try to mail minecraft
#2670 [09:35] <elmo> and ask
#2671 [09:35] <elmo> Kealper might know more
#2672 [09:36] <Morkai> mail adress?
#2673 [09:37] <elmo> Morkai: have you checked the homepage?
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#2675 [09:37] <SemanticX> Still having minecraft issues :(
#2676 [09:38] <elmo> SemanticX: what issues?
#2677 [09:38] <SemanticX> crashes after logon but before mojang screen
#2678 [09:38] <elmo> SemanticX: OS?
#2679 [09:38] <SemanticX> using vanilla minecraft exe from the site
#2680 [09:38] <SemanticX> os is windows 7 x64
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#2682 [09:38] <elmo> vanilla == the alpha?
#2683 [09:38] <SemanticX> vanilla = unmodded
#2684 [09:38] <SemanticX> but i'm using the latest beta
#2685 [09:38] <elmo> have you tried to update java/your graphic card drivers?
#2686 [09:39] <SemanticX> yup
#2687 [09:39] <SemanticX> it was working on this set up before
#2688 [09:39] <elmo> When did the problem came?
#2689 [09:39] <SemanticX> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=172834 <topic
#2690 [09:40] <SemanticX> http://pastebin.com/tSCgxnPc <report
#2691 [09:40] <SemanticX> since i reinstalled my computer
#2692 [09:40] <SemanticX> i had to format and reinstall
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#2694 [09:41] <SemanticX> its not asthough its an issue with my PC being too low spec... if i was running a busted ass laptop or old pc i'd understand
#2695 [09:41] <SemanticX> but i'm using fairly high spec hardware
#2696 [09:42] <elmo> Sorry, but i can't help you anymore
#2697 [09:42] <elmo> :(
#2698 [09:42] <elmo> Hopefully an OP will come soon and help you
#2699 [09:43] <SemanticX> i have a Lets Play to record >.<
#2700 [09:43] <SemanticX> i reinstalled cause of issues with my video editting software
#2701 [09:43] <SemanticX> which works now
#2702 [09:43] <SemanticX> but now MC is borkked
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#2705 [09:50] <E_mE> can anyone here help me with a frozen Creeper mob and the fact it freezes my character when i go into the same X coord near him
#2706 [09:50] <E_mE> doesn't need to be the same Y (z ingame) coord,
#2707 [09:50] <E_mE> only way i can unfreeze is to use NBTEdit to move me or kill me
#2708 [09:51] <SemanticX> swap to peaceful so he dissapears?
#2709 [09:51] <SemanticX> then swap back/
#2710 [09:52] <SFX_Acidic> !commands
#2711 [09:53] <SemanticX> Re-Installed x64 java and still no fix
#2712 [09:54] <SFX_Acidic> what's the command to ping an IP in here
#2713 [09:54] <SemanticX> _/ping_
#2714 [09:57] <SemanticX> *sigh* there is no hope for me being able to play EVER again
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#2717 [10:01] <SFX_Acidic> !ping [9:11 AM] KONA: 99.177.176.99
#2718 [10:02] <SFX_Acidic> !ping 99.177.176.99
#2719 [10:02] <ItsCriminal> one tiny questtion my Server is breaking down, when 2 players are on it, (the server never stays up more then 20min) if they not on ir but like 10other players the server stay up for 1day
#2720 [10:04] <SFX_Acidic> !ping back 192.168.1.83
#2721 [10:04] <SFX_Acidic> .commands
#2722 [10:07] <SFX_Acidic> !check 192.168.1.83
#2723 [10:07] <SFX_Acidic> !check 99.177.176.99
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#2725 [10:08] <SFX_Acidic> !check 204.111.183.170
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#2728 [10:21] <SFX_Acidic> !check 99.177.176.99
#2729 [10:21] <SFX_Acidic> !check 1.2.3.4
#2730 [10:21] <SFX_Acidic> lol
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#2732 [10:23] <Taz605> hey how do i reset my server?
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#2734 [10:25] <zenon> Thanks, MCHelpBot. That solves my question, I think.
#2735 [10:28] <zenon> But it does connect..
#2736 [10:28] <zenon> I just get a gray screen after it connects.
#2737 [10:28] <zenon> After the servers welcome message.
#2738 [10:29] <Taz605> i can't find server_level.dat
#2739 [10:29] <zenon> And sometimes a black screen after it says 'switching applets'
#2740 [10:32] <Taz605> never mind googled it XD
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#2742 [10:38] <c0ngs> Hello (:
#2743 [10:38] <c0ngs> any1 here?
#2744 [10:41] <E_mE> anyone here who can help with my character freezing when i enter a particular X cord?
#2745 [10:43] <CruelNoise> x cord?
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#2747 [10:43] <sdasdas> hi
#2748 [10:43] <E_mE> coordinate i mean
#2749 [10:43] <sdasdas> can you gyz help me?
#2750 [10:43] <E_mE> if i go into x:-879 within the range of Y:100-113 (At least), my character freezes
#2751 [10:43] <CruelNoise> lolololol
#2752 [10:44] <CruelNoise> what do you mean by freeze?
#2753 [10:44] <E_mE> just shakes, i can move my head, but can't move anywhere
#2754 [10:44] <E_mE> can dig things, but nothing more
#2755 [10:44] <E_mE> can move backwards or forwards
#2756 [10:44] <E_mE> s/can/can't
#2757 [10:45] <E_mE> ive deleted the .dat files which are associated to the area, but still the same problem.
#2758 [10:45] <E_mE> only way of getting out is to manually edit level.dat
#2759 [10:45] <CruelNoise> so this happens after you restart the applet ec?
#2760 [10:45] <E_mE> ja, exit game, and go back in, still stuck
#2761 [10:47] <CruelNoise> I don't know what would be causing it... Perhaps you should ask on GetSatisfaction?
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#2763 [10:53] <penguinmessiah> i cant get that dant mc mod loader to work
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#2767 [11:03] <Mipje> ask!
#2768 [11:03] <Mipje> ^^
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#2771 [11:05] <Mipje> uhm
#2772 [11:05] <Mipje> i can ask ?
#2773 [11:06] <Mipje> ....
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#2775 [11:07] <Mipje> heloo i got an error message trying
#2776 [11:07] <Mipje> to run beta
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#2778 [11:09] <Mipje> can some1 help me then ?
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#2780 [11:11] <SemanticX> i can
#2781 [11:11] <SemanticX> sorry was afk and just came back to IRC lol
#2782 [11:11] <Mipje> ok np
#2783 [11:11] <Mipje> uhm yes'
#2784 [11:11] <Mipje> i start beta an wanna join a server
#2785 [11:11] <Mipje> but then
#2786 [11:11] <SemanticX> ok
#2787 [11:11] <Mipje> i join and beta chrashes
#2788 [11:12] <Mipje> all the time
#2789 [11:12] <SemanticX> did you pay for MC?
#2790 [11:12] <Mipje> yes
#2791 [11:12] <Mipje> gift
#2792 [11:12] <SemanticX> are you set to play offline?
#2793 [11:12] <OWN|Dids> Hi guys! I was in here about 2 days ago, my friend bought me a gift code because I'v been having problems with my card. Still haven't got the code. What to do?
#2794 [11:12] <Mipje> yes
#2795 [11:12] <Mipje> i can play offline and classic
#2796 [11:12] <SemanticX> thts why then... the MC server is up and donw alot today
#2797 [11:12] <SemanticX> thats possibly the reason
#2798 [11:12] <Mipje> kk
#2799 [11:13] <Mipje> classic servers arent right cuz mine is running whitout problems
#2800 [11:13] <SemanticX> Dids: the gift code will go to them and appear in there account
#2801 [11:13] <OWN|Dids> on the homepage?
#2802 [11:13] <SemanticX> ya
#2803 [11:14] <OWN|Dids> ok, I will check it out. ty
#2804 [11:14] <Mipje> semanticx so
#2805 [11:15] <Mipje> it isent me but mc
#2806 [11:15] <SemanticX> yup
#2807 [11:15] <Mipje> ok
#2808 [11:16] <Mipje> is it just hard 2 join or inpossible ?
#2809 [11:16] <SemanticX> if the site is up and down i reccomend trying later
#2810 [11:16] <SemanticX> or reboot and try a different server
#2811 [11:16] <Mipje> ok thnx
#2812 [11:16] <Mipje> how can i reboot beta :S
#2813 [11:17] <OWN|Dids> He still didn't get it
#2814 [11:17] <SemanticX> just wait or post in support forum
#2815 [11:17] <SemanticX> and rebboot your pc
#2816 [11:17] <SemanticX> h and detelte the bin from you.minecraft folder
#2817 [11:17] <Mipje> ah okay
#2818 [11:18] <Mipje> thnx
#2819 [11:18] <Mipje> later
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#2821 [11:20] <ItsCriminal> how i get the custom texures to work
#2822 [11:21] <SemanticX> instal them using mcPatcher 1.11
#2823 [11:21] <ItsCriminal> ok thank you
#2824 [11:21] <SemanticX> oh, PC check out my YouTube Channel
#2825 [11:21] <SemanticX> http://www.youtube.com/user/SemanticX
#2826 [11:24] <Cial> you only need the patcher for HD packs
#2827 [11:25] <SemanticX> yer, but i use it all the time because it's a cleaner way to install them
#2828 [11:26] <Kealper> what is up my loyal denizens.
#2829 [11:26] <SemanticX> My MC refuses to work!
#2830 [11:26] <Kealper> :o
#2831 [11:26] <SemanticX> so i'm helping other people until i resolve my own issues!
#2832 [11:26] <Kealper> what seems to be your issue?
#2833 [11:27] <SemanticX> black screen and crash after login before mojang screen
#2834 [11:27] <Kealper> has it ever worked before?
#2835 [11:27] <SemanticX> yer
#2836 [11:27] <SemanticX> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=172834
#2837 [11:28] <SFX_Acidic> !check 99.177.176.99
#2838 [11:28] <SFX_Acidic> seems servers are still down
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#2840 [11:29] <Kealper> SemanticX: for shits and giggles try turning off crossfire and giving it a go, or did it work like that before?
#2841 [11:29] <Kealper> also, any antivirus software installed?
#2842 [11:29] <SemanticX> worked like this before, tried with an dwithout cross fire
#2843 [11:29] <Kealper> because that error is being caused by graphics drivers
#2844 [11:30] <SemanticX> yup
#2845 [11:30] <SemanticX> even though they are latest working ATI drivers
#2846 [11:30] <Kealper> doesn't work in the browser, either?
#2847 [11:31] <SemanticX> nope crashes nrowser
#2848 [11:31] <Kealper> o.o
#2849 [11:31] <Kealper> so no antivirus software installed?
#2850 [11:32] <Kealper> and i assume you've tried reinstalling minecraft? (deleting the bin folder in .minecraft)
#2851 [11:32] <SemanticX> yup
#2852 [11:32] <SemanticX> and tried with and without avast
#2853 [11:33] <Kealper> hmm....this seems to be a strange case, indeed :/
#2854 [11:33] <SemanticX> may just re install windows again ans see what happens
#2855 [11:33] <Kealper> that might work, who knows :/
#2856 [11:34] <Kealper> you are using the latest drivers from amd's website, and not windows update right?
#2857 [11:35] <SemanticX> yer
#2858 [11:36] <Kealper> i don't know what could be wrong then :/
#2859 [11:36] <Kealper> well, rephrasing that, i know what's wrong, i just don't know why it's wrong
#2860 [11:36] <SemanticX> same
#2861 [11:37] <SemanticX> ah well
#2862 [11:37] <SemanticX> i'll give it a re install later
#2863 [11:37] <SemanticX> for now.. Black Ops
#2864 [11:37] <Kealper> lol
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#2866 [11:49] <SFX_Acidic> Any idea when people can finally connect to MP servers again?
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#2868 [11:50] <SFX_Acidic> !check 173.17.32.240
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#2872 [11:59] <aetherian> heya guys
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#2881 [12:17] <SiX> any solution for stuck keys in linux?
#2882 [12:17] <grio-work> unplug the keyboard? =P
#2883 [12:20] <aetherian> heh
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#2886 [12:24] * aetherian thinks this place needs more action
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#2887 [12:24] <jotroptop> hello
#2888 [12:24] <jotroptop> What is the version of minecraft?
#2889 [12:24] <jotroptop> please
#2890 [12:24] <aetherian> 1.2_02, I thought
#2891 [12:24] <aetherian> maybe _01
#2892 [12:24] <aetherian> just a sec
#2893 [12:25] <aetherian> yeah
#2894 [12:25] <aetherian> 1.2_02
#2895 [12:25] <aetherian> why?
#2896 [12:25] <jotroptop> Jai found a mod pour to add animals
#2897 [12:26] <jotroptop> I found a mod for add animals
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#2900 [12:26] <aetherian> mo' creatures?
#2901 [12:26] <jotroptop> Human wolf
#2902 [12:26] <jotroptop> http://minecraft.fr/mod-ajout-danimaux/
#2903 [12:26] <jotroptop> and fox
#2904 [12:27] <aetherian> hmm
#2905 [12:27] <aetherian> have fun then.
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#2907 [12:29] <grio--> apologies for the multiple login/out. IRC client keeps crashing.
#2908 [12:29] <aetherian> darn, this is taking a long time to verify
#2909 [12:29] <aetherian> and who cares, grio
#2910 [12:30] <grio--> no worries then. Sometimes people complain; was curtailing it if I could.
#2911 [12:31] <aetherian> finally, it burned.
#2912 [12:31] <aetherian> now I can install it.
#2913 [12:31] <grio--> Was curious about setting up a caching service for the minecraft.net login failures. I'm sure it's been thought of, just curious if it has been implemented successfully anywhere?
#2914 [12:31] <aetherian> uhhhh
#2915 [12:32] <xales> The problem with the site is with load balancing - even an absurd cache wouldn't solve the issue
#2916 [12:33] <grio--> Well, I'm more thinking locally on my mc server. If there is a key or something generated from the client that would allow users who have successfully logged in with verification previously to access my server.
#2917 [12:33] * aetherian thinks that at this rate, the servers were better off before
#2917 [12:34] <aetherian> ;_;
#2918 [12:35] <grio--> Essentially a key that has, say, a week expiration before failing. Once keys are exhanged at the local server level, those users can get back in. Reassign keys weekly/bi-weekly, etc.
#2919 [12:35] <grio--> I'm just tossing ideas.
#2920 [12:36] <grio--> To anyone listening who is responsible for development, let me just say "Thanks." Really enjoy it.
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#2922 [12:39] <SFX_Acidic> xales any idea when people can join MP servers again?
#2923 [12:39] <SFX_Acidic> !check 99.177.176.99
#2924 [12:39] <xales> When minecraft.net is more stable
#2925 [12:39] <xales> I think its working nw though
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#2927 [12:42] <SFX_Acidic> well when I do check in here it tells me no
#2928 [12:42] <SFX_Acidic> 99.177.176.99 is the ip
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#2930 [12:42] <SFX_Acidic> I even to my IP and I get the same status in here
#2931 [12:43] <xales> that isn't related to minecraft.net then
#2932 [12:43] <xales> make sure you port forwarded correctly
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#2934 [12:43] <Syyceron> Hallo
#2935 [12:43] <Syyceron> a
#2936 [12:43] <xales> Hello
#2937 [12:43] <SFX_Acidic> it has been port fwd correctly
#2938 [12:44] <Syyceron> Wie gehts
#2939 [12:44] <xales> SFX_Acidic: Your local IP can change, double check that it is
#2940 [12:44] <SFX_Acidic> it's his IP
#2941 [12:44] <xales> SFX_Acidic: well, make sure he port forwarded correctly then
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#2943 [12:44] <SFX_Acidic> I have his server IP in the prop. file his IP v4
#2944 [12:45] <SFX_Acidic> His main IP from whatismyip.com is 99.177.176.99
#2945 [12:45] <xales> what?
#2946 [12:45] <xales> is he running the server?
#2947 [12:45] <SFX_Acidic> Yes
#2948 [12:45] <SFX_Acidic> He is a few states away
#2949 [12:45] <SFX_Acidic> His computer can hadle being a server
#2950 [12:45] <xales> if he is hosting the server from home, and he has the IP in the properties file
#2951 [12:45] <xales> it will not work
#2952 [12:45] <SFX_Acidic> He did a logmein session to let me setup the server
#2953 [12:45] <xales> the ip line must be blank
#2954 [12:46] <xales> server-ip= <-- must be just like that
#2955 [12:46] <SFX_Acidic> oh so in the prop files have no ip
#2956 [12:46] <xales> correct
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#2958 [12:46] <Syyceron> bOOM
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#2961 [12:54] <Callidus> hello minecraft help
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#2964 [12:57] <SFX_Acidic> xales I had him delete this IP
#2965 [12:57] <SFX_Acidic> and restart the server
#2966 [12:57] <SFX_Acidic> I still can't connect
#2967 [12:57] <SFX_Acidic> that*
#2968 [12:58] <Callidus> yay my server works ^^
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#2970 [13:01] <SFX_Acidic> I keep getting failed to connect to the server, connectino timed out: connect
#2971 [13:02] <SFX_Acidic> !check 99.177.176.99
#2972 [13:02] <SFX_Acidic> !check 127.0.0.1
#2973 [13:02] <SFX_Acidic> !check 204.111.183.170
#2974 [13:02] <bobingabout> doh
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#2977 [13:04] <Hopalongtom> hey... Just recently I've been getting an odd error claming that the Java virtual machine cannot be created! "http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4046/javaerror.png "
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#2980 [13:13] <ItsCriminal> is it possible to make a mushroom farm? so i place one and after some days i get 10?
#2981 [13:14] <bobingabout> I don't think so currently, i'd like to do a similar thing with flowers
#2982 [13:14] <ItsCriminal> mhm crap :D
#2983 [13:14] <bobingabout> but yeah, i want more red dye
#2984 [13:14] <ItsCriminal> i want more soupe :D
#2985 [13:15] <nipper> Hopalongtom it needs more ram.
#2986 [13:16] <bobingabout> how would you tell it to use more RAM then? i already know that tom is just using minecraft.exe, and its not been a problem before.
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#2989 [13:20] <Jack> .
#2990 [13:24] <bobingabout> you know what else i'd like?
#2991 [13:25] <bobingabout> a way to grow a pine forest
#2992 [13:25] <Elvang> Isn't there a mod that gives different saplings?
#2993 [13:25] <bobingabout> they're tall and always grow stright up, perfect for a wood farm
#2994 [13:25] <bobingabout> and i don't know i there is a mod for it or not, but i think it should be official
#2995 [13:27] <Hopalongtom> nipper its got 4GIG of ram
#2996 [13:29] <nipper> Hopalongtom try restarting.
#2997 [13:29] <nipper> If that seems to not work reinstall java and try again.
#2998 [13:29] <bobingabout> Done both those things
#2999 [13:29] <Hopalongtom> yeah
#3000 [13:29] <nipper> You on windows?
#3001 [13:29] <Hopalongtom> windows 7 yeah
#3002 [13:30] <FpsJack> ,
#3003 [13:30] <Hopalongtom> it was working last time I used my laptop
#3004 [13:30] <nipper> open cmd and type java -version see if it starts.
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#3006 [13:30] <Salem> Hi all, scuse me if I am not on the right channel. I am triyng to have my own minecraft server on my computer. The server works with my 2 PC's in LAN. Could you please try to connect to my server in WAN ? IP : 109.213.10.157:25565.
#3007 [13:31] <Elvang> !check 109.213.10.157:25565
#3008 [13:31] <nipper> lol beat me to it el
#3009 [13:31] <Elvang> :)
#3010 [13:31] <Hopalongtom> cmd claims its not a command or openable as a program... O_O
#3011 [13:31] <bobingabout> thats what mine said too
#3012 [13:31] <bobingabout> but yet it works for me
#3013 [13:32] <bobingabout> minecraft that is
#3014 [13:32] <Salem> You can connect to my server ?
#3015 [13:32] <ItsCriminal> fatar error my minecraft server totaly crashed :D
#3016 [13:32] <Elvang> It doesn't recognize it because the java.exe isn't in your path somewhere
#3017 [13:32] <nipper> you should get a reply something like this
#3018 [13:32] <nipper> C:\Users\nipper>java -version; java version "1.6.0_23"; Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_23-b05)
#3019 [13:33] <nipper> If not like I said hit up java.com and reinstall java.
#3020 [13:33] <Salem> my java version is : jdk1.6.0_23
#3021 [13:33] <nipper> There is a harder way of doing it but I rather not take you throw it
#3022 [13:33] <nipper> solem it was not for you.
#3023 [13:33] <Salem> oh ok
#3024 [13:33] <nipper> You server seems fine the ports are open to the outside.
#3025 [13:33] <nipper> your
#3026 [13:33] <bobingabout> he already said that he already re-installed Java, its what i told him to do first when he mentioned it to me
#3027 [13:33] <Salem> you can connect to it ?
#3028 [13:34] <Elvang> Use the !check command Salem, it'll try connecting to your server for you.
#3029 [13:34] <nipper> bobingabout must not have. If java shows as not being a command in cmd he missed something.
#3030 [13:34] <Hopalongtom> I've managed to install java again yes, it was the first thing I tried
#3031 [13:34] <Salem> !check 109.213.10.157:25565
#3032 [13:34] <nipper> Well then where is it installed then?
#3033 [13:34] <bobingabout> well... it doesn't show as a command to me either, yet minecraft runs fine
#3034 [13:35] <nipper> Well where is it installed?
#3035 [13:35] <bobingabout> default location?
#3036 [13:35] <Hopalongtom> it doesn't affer you to install anywhere else
#3037 [13:35] <nipper> 64bit and 32bit tend not to be the same depending on which is installed.
#3038 [13:36] <bobingabout> 64bit, both of us
#3039 [13:36] <Hopalongtom> well its 64bit but again, java won't give me any other installer
#3040 [13:36] <nipper> C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe is my default.
#3041 [13:36] <nipper> try C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe -version in cmd and see its reply.
#3042 [13:36] <bobingabout> most likely program files (x64)
#3043 [13:36] <bobingabout> x84*
#3044 [13:36] <LatHans> x86*
#3045 [13:36] <bobingabout> yes
#3046 [13:36] <bobingabout> x86
#3047 [13:36] <LatHans> :)
#3048 [13:37] <nipper> if he is running x86 on a 64 get the 64bit
#3049 [13:37] <bobingabout> oh right X3
#3050 [13:37] <Hopalongtom> the 64 bit link to java on the site leads you to the download of the regular version
#3051 [13:38] <nipper> type this in cmd
#3052 [13:38] <Hopalongtom> C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin
#3053 [13:38] <nipper> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" - version
#3054 [13:38] <Hopalongtom> yeah its there
#3055 [13:38] <nipper> opps no space at -version
#3056 [13:38] <bobingabout> tom, try get the 64bit version of java, things should run A LOT better on your computer
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#3058 [13:39] <nipper> That seems to be what the issue is. It's calling for the 64bit when the 32bit is installed.
#3059 [13:39] <bobingabout> or just re-install windows, then sort it out later
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#3061 [13:39] <Hopalongtom> unrecognised option could not create the java virtual machine
#3062 [13:39] <nipper> It would run the same though. You would need to change the paths to it via system settings though.
#3063 [13:40] <[GtbA]WesSite> Good evening, I have a question. What is the configuration for a server Minecraft (ram, cpu, ...) Thanks in advance.
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#3065 [13:40] <nipper> Hopalongtom try this then "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -version
#3066 [13:40] <Hopalongtom> thats what I typed
#3067 [13:40] <bobingabout> You mean what is the recomended server configuration?
#3068 [13:41] <nipper> Then it's like I said bad install of java.
#3069 [13:41] <[GtbA]WesSite> yes
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#3071 [13:41] <nipper> Hopalongtom http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=45824
#3072 [13:42] <Hopalongtom> downloading
#3073 [13:42] <bobingabout> basicly, anything that'll run it. I'd opt more for faster cores than more cores though
#3074 [13:42] <nipper> Hopalongtom Also uninstall java via add and remove programs.
#3075 [13:42] <bobingabout> EG, if i had to choose between a 3GHz duelcore or a 2GHz quadcore, i'd go for the 3GHz dual
#3076 [13:42] <nipper> then install that one I gave you.
#3077 [13:43] <[GtbA]WesSite> ok and for the memory ?
#3078 [13:43] <Hopalongtom> that'd remove my ability to chat on here X3 since it requires java
#3079 [13:43] <Hopalongtom> so gonna log off here once its downloaded
#3080 [13:44] <bobingabout> How many minecraft servers are you planning to run on the server computer? just 1 or more than 1?
#3081 [13:44] <bobingabout> if only one, i'd probably say 2GB should be more than enough
#3082 [13:45] <[GtbA]WesSite> just one server
#3083 [13:45] <[GtbA]WesSite> on a VPS
#3084 [13:45] <bobingabout> so the only thing running on the machine is the minecraft server?
#3085 [13:46] <[GtbA]WesSite> yes globaly
#3086 [13:46] <nipper> ekk [GtbA]WesSite Just hope you have good hard drive speeds. The VPS I used to be with made my server laggy as hell.
#3087 [13:46] <bobingabout> buying it new?
#3088 [13:47] <bobingabout> oh yeah, you'll want a decent hard drive in it X3 i'd get a Western Digital drive, though doesn't have to be very large if its just for minecraft
#3089 [13:47] <bobingabout> so a 120GB drive should be fine
#3090 [13:49] <[GtbA]WesSite> i'v the choice between 100Go for HDD, 512Mo for Ram, and CPU intel xeon qouad
#3091 [13:50] <bobingabout> how old is the system?
#3092 [13:50] <nipper> Well the issue with a vps is shared resrouces like hdd and cpu.
#3093 [13:50] <[GtbA]WesSite> Or 150Go HDD 1Go Ram and CPU intel xeon quad but it is more expensive
#3094 [13:50] <bobingabout> and you'll likely need more RAM
#3095 [13:50] <nipper> well 2gig ram can run about 15 people or so.
#3096 [13:51] <bobingabout> Java is basicly like Emulation, its an interperator, so it is VERY memory hungry
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#3098 [13:51] <bobingabout> and processor hungry too
#3099 [13:51] <crafn> hello!
#3100 [13:52] <bobingabout> and... you don't need a quad, Java usually only runs a single core, 2 if you're lucky, so if you have a quadcore, you'll find that it will look like its not running very hard, yet actually be getting choked through lack of CPU power
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#3104 [13:52] <[GtbA]WesSite> is the host after which it proposes
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#3106 [13:53] <[GtbA]WesSite> http://hebergement-a-1euro.com/serveurs.html
#3107 [13:53] <[GtbA]WesSite> I'm french
#3108 [13:53] <Hopalongtom> just installed that version you linked me, after uninstalling my last java instilation, and same problem
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#3110 [13:53] <zone> hi
#3111 [13:54] <Hopalongtom> and Java IS working since this IRC client uses it
#3112 [13:54] <lysandergray> Hello. I tried making a server status checker using PHP and fsockopen, it works sorta, but it's leaving traces in my minecraft_server console. Anyone know of another way to do it?
#3113 [13:54] <nipper> Well its all about where it is installed.
#3114 [13:54] <nipper> go to cmd type java -version
#3115 [13:55] <zone> I am trying to setup a dedicated server for mine craft. Turns out I need a little help
#3116 [13:55] <nipper> or java -Xms50M -Xmx50M -version
#3117 [13:55] <nipper> zone what seems to be the issue?
#3118 [13:55] <bobingabout> to choose between those... i'd get the 512M version, it will be a bit restrictive, but then it is obviously not designed to run something like minecraft
#3119 [13:55] <zone> Well I start up the server and my friend can't connect to it over the Internet despite not having any firewalls present or routers
#3120 [13:56] <nipper> minecraft server default tell you to use atlest 1gig ram.
#3121 [13:56] <zone> if I try to connect to it locally. It logs me in in the server but kicks me out a few minutes later
#3122 [13:56] <nipper> Zone can you connect to your self locally?
#3123 [13:56] <[GtbA]WesSite> ok thanks
#3124 [13:56] <nipper> It should not kick you.
#3125 [13:56] <bobingabout> Yeah, thats what i'm thinking of, but he'd be paying all that extra for the 1G version that he doesn't need
#3126 [13:56] <nipper> What is the kick message?
#3127 [13:56] <zone> well not necessarily take it just a moment let me get the exact logs
#3128 [13:56] <nipper> well 1gig can run about 7 to 10 people
#3129 [13:57] <nipper> 2gig 15 to 20
#3130 [13:57] <nipper> but then again with a vps they add alot of other stuff like apache thigns like that.
#3131 [13:57] <nipper> So he would need extra for that as well.
#3132 [13:57] <[GtbA]WesSite> so 1gig = 7 to 10 ?
#3133 [13:57] <nipper> about that.
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#3135 [13:57] <bobingabout> like i said, not really designed for minecraft
#3136 [13:57] <nipper> I run a 30man with 3gig and save 1gig for web stuff.
#3137 [13:58] <[GtbA]WesSite> ok
#3138 [13:58] <[GtbA]WesSite> tanks for info
#3139 [13:58] <nipper> people hardly lag. Only time there is lag is if i draw maps. or mc.net is screwing up.
#3140 [13:58] <bobingabout> my minecraft server is a computer under my stairs. only issue i have is that my internet connection isn't really good enough
#3141 [13:58] <nipper> lol
#3142 [13:58] <nipper> I run mine on a dedi
#3143 [13:59] <zone> It's giving me different message now. [INFO] Disconnecting ZzZone [/127.0.0.1:51462]: Took too long to log in
#3144 [13:59] <bobingabout> its one of these new Intel Atom D510 systems
#3145 [13:59] <nipper> People donate so they pay for the server. I just keep software uptodate and anti grief.
#3146 [13:59] <nipper> zone thats MC.net auth servers.
#3147 [13:59] <nipper> there auth servers are laggy or screwing up.
#3148 [13:59] <nipper> zone just keep trying they or you will get it.
#3149 [13:59] <bobingabout> they've been screwing up a lot lately
#3150 [14:00] <nipper> You could always put it in offline mode as well but I would not do that if the server is public.
#3151 [14:00] <nipper> That they have.
#3152 [14:00] <zone> I thought I was hosting my own server...
#3153 [14:00] <bobingabout> what does offline mode do for you anyway?
#3154 [14:00] <nipper> It basicly wont check minecraft.net if the person connecting is using a legit account.
#3155 [14:00] <bobingabout> oh, you do host your own server, BUT, they still need to authenticate through minecraft.net to make sure they actually have their own accounts
#3156 [14:01] <zone> I see
#3157 [14:02] <nipper> But since oh amonth or so minecraft.net has had real issues with auth/login/skin servers they said they picked up newones but these newones seem to have the same issue with lag or die for no reason.
#3158 [14:02] <nipper> sometimes there good but atlest 1 to 3hrs per day they are crap.
#3159 [14:02] <bobingabout> Yeah, no offence, but notch needs to care more
#3160 [14:02] <lukegb> nipper: does 'intense strain' not count?
#3161 [14:03] <lukegb> He does need to care more
#3162 [14:03] <nipper> lukegb yeah but the new servers were spose to be able to handle it. Atlest thats what they said.
#3163 [14:03] <lukegb> Buuut
#3164 [14:03] <crafn> i'm wondering if anyone else has had this odd issue of levers not changing state graphically. Only when lever is on, pressing it will change its state back to off, although current is changing on every punch :(
#3165 [14:03] <nipper> But they said they are looking in to the problem just bare with it. I will be fixed asap.
#3166 [14:03] <bobingabout> on a server crafn?
#3167 [14:03] <nipper> crafn I have.
#3168 [14:03] <crafn> bobingabout, yes
#3169 [14:03] <nipper> You running bukkit?
#3170 [14:03] <crafn> after update to 1.2_01
#3171 [14:03] <bobingabout> Yeah, i have those issues all the time
#3172 [14:04] <crafn> no mods or anything
#3173 [14:04] <nipper> craft what you could do is put redstone by it where you can see it.
#3174 [14:04] <zone> I logged in and now I'm just Falling through nothing
#3175 [14:04] <bobingabout> give it a moment to load chunks
#3176 [14:04] <nipper> That's what I have to do for mine.
#3177 [14:05] <nipper> zone your computer is slow. It will load but take the time to load.
#3178 [14:05] <crafn> so there's no solution?
#3179 [14:05] <bobingabout> tell notch to care more, there's your solution
#3180 [14:05] <bobingabout> x3
#3181 [14:05] <crafn> :D
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#3183 [14:06] <drezi> test
#3184 [14:06] <drezi> :D
#3185 [14:06] <nipper> crafn Like I said put restone where you can see it to see what state the lever is in.
#3186 [14:06] <nipper> Till then we have to wait for a patch which shoul be soon. But you never know with them.
#3187 [14:06] <zone> Internal exception Java.io.EOFException.. server-side and it says[INFO] ZzZone lost connection: disconnect.overflow [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#3188 [14:06] <drezi> i want to connect to my server so bad :/
#3189 [14:06] <crafn> nipper, thanks for advice :3
#3190 [14:06] <bobingabout> i also have the annoying problem that i'll stand on my pad, and the iron doors don't open
#3191 [14:07] <bobingabout> after fighting that for a while, i just knocked them down and used wooden doors
#3192 [14:07] <nipper> zone your computer is to slow to run the server maybe. Just a guess what are your system specs?
#3193 [14:07] <nipper> bobingabout that might be due to lag.
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#3195 [14:08] <bobingabout> even when i'm stood on it for a good 5 mins and nothing happens?
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#3197 [14:08] <zone> amd 4400 running at 2.4 GHz with four gigs ram and an 8800gtx
#3198 [14:08] <nipper> step off then back on and see.
#3199 [14:08] <bobingabout> i don't think the 8800gtx is going to make any difference to a server X3
#3200 [14:08] <nipper> zone what does your system idle at and how fast is the hdd speeds?
#3201 [14:08] <nipper> no video card wont.
#3202 [14:08] <bobingabout> and yeah, this is a recuring thing
#3203 [14:08] <crafn> one more thing, is it normal that lag becames huge only when 3 people join to my server? i have 24/1 connection
#3204 [14:09] <nipper> but his cpu whats it run at idle?
#3205 [14:09] <nipper> crafn If its a new server maybe. Due to new chunks being made.
#3206 [14:10] <zone> I have two 320 GB 7200 RPM hard drives in raid zero
#3207 [14:10] <bobingabout> oh yeah, mine really lags when its making new chunks
#3208 [14:11] <crafn> nipper, chunks are made but can slow clients make lag for whole server? delay is sometimes over a minute
#3209 [14:11] <drezi> i have a doughnut
#3210 [14:11] <drezi> :D
#3211 [14:11] <nipper> Not for sure. Can't say to much about it then.
#3212 [14:11] <nipper> I would asume its your net.
#3213 [14:11] <crafn> :S
#3214 [14:12] <drezi> :/
#3215 [14:12] <drezi> =P
#3216 [14:13] <zone> I have two 320 GB 7200 RPM hard drives in raid zero
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#3218 [14:13] <aetherian> my internet is lagging
#3219 [14:13] <aetherian> I blame the download I'm doing
#3220 [14:14] <crafn> it's a bit odd since i've run acounter-strike where over 10 people were able to play without lag
#3221 [14:14] <panitaliemom> I just bought the game and don't know how to connect to a multilayer game with my friend. Can anyone help me??
#3222 [14:14] <crafn> counter-strike server*
#3223 [14:14] <zone> The server also said [INFO] ZzZone lost connection: disconnect.overflow
#3224 [14:14] <aetherian> minecraft uses up lotsa resources
#3225 [14:14] <aetherian> panit, what server they on?
#3226 [14:14] <zone> four gigs worth?
#3227 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> HLDS/SDS is vastly different from a Minecraft server. Terrain is client-side, for example, not serverside, which is a huge difference.
#3228 [14:15] <aetherian> zone: there are more resources than just ram
#3229 [14:15] <zone> Well obviously like CPU and hard drive speed
#3230 [14:15] <panitaliemom> Does anyone know how to connect to a server?
#3231 [14:15] <zone> both of which should be adequate
#3232 [14:15] <crafn> I know, but still, when 3 players are just standing the delay can be over a minute
#3233 [14:16] <bobingabout> unfortunately, minecraft is once yet again badly programmed for multiplayer, it is quite the bandwidth hog too
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#3235 [14:16] <aetherian> zone: more than that
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#3237 [14:16] <zone> and what would that be
#3238 [14:16] <aetherian> think: internet speed
#3239 [14:16] <zone> well right
#3240 [14:16] <aetherian> a valuable resource
#3241 [14:16] <panitaliemom> yeah i bet so... So, do you know how to connect?
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#3243 [14:16] <zone> but I'm trying to log in locally so doesn't matter
#3244 [14:16] <bobingabout> and minecraft uses a lot more than it should need to
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#3246 [14:17] <panitaliemom> That's not the problem. We just don't know how to connect
#3247 [14:17] <the_late_man> server=x, click multiplayer, type in x
#3248 [14:17] <the_late_man> click connect
#3249 [14:17] <the_late_man> done :)
#3250 [14:17] <the_late_man> panit
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#3252 [14:18] <bobingabout> where X is typically a number like this
#3253 [14:18] <aetherian> 127.0.0.1
#3254 [14:18] <aetherian> :D
#3255 [14:18] <bobingabout> 64.36.236.23:25565
#3256 [14:18] <aetherian> nono
#3257 [14:18] <aetherian> if the port is 25565, you don't need to enter it
#3258 [14:18] <panitaliemom> right, so do i enter my ip address followed by 25565 (the port addr)?
#3259 [14:18] <aetherian> >.>
#3260 [14:18] <panitaliemom> what ip address do i enter?
#3261 [14:18] <aetherian> you enter the ip of the server
#3262 [14:18] <bobingabout> only really need the last part IF you're not using the default port
#3263 [14:18] <zone> well here's my problem [INFO] ZzZone lost connection: disconnect.overflow [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#3264 [14:18] <aetherian> ip/domain name
#3265 [14:19] <panitaliemom> how do i find the ip of the server?
#3266 [14:19] <aetherian> who is hosting it
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#3268 [14:19] <bobingabout> for example, the one i connect to i need to add :25566 because there's more than 1 server running on the computer
#3269 [14:19] <panitaliemom> i am trying to host it.
#3270 [14:19] <aetherian> are you running the server?
#3271 [14:19] <panitaliemom> yes
#3272 [14:19] <aetherian> great
#3273 [14:19] <bobingabout> same computer that you're playing minecraft on?
#3274 [14:19] <panitaliemom> yep
#3275 [14:20] <aetherian> 205.143.217.127 is what your firend should input
#3276 [14:20] <bobingabout> 127.0.0.1 should work for YOU only
#3277 [14:20] <aetherian> and you should input 127.0.0.1 , or "localhost"\
#3278 [14:20] <bobingabout> Yeah
#3279 [14:20] <aetherian> ninja'd
#3280 [14:20] <fogWraith> aetherian? at this hour? :P
#3281 [14:21] <bobingabout> and if you're doing more than one person from the same household, it will likely be an address like 192.168.0.5
#3282 [14:21] <aetherian> it's only 8:15 where you are, what do you mean this hour?
#3283 [14:21] <bobingabout> or 10.10.1.87, depending on router manufacturer
#3284 [14:21] <aetherian> !check 205.143.217.127
#3285 [14:21] <fogWraith> How should I know? Stop whining ;)
#3286 [14:22] <aetherian> the server isn't running
#3287 [14:22] <panitaliemom> yeah 205.143.217.127 doesn't work
#3288 [14:22] <aetherian> sorry
#3289 [14:22] <bobingabout> maybe you need to open the port to the outside world?
#3290 [14:22] <aetherian> portforward!
#3291 [14:22] <aetherian> augh
#3292 [14:22] <bobingabout> Yeah, port forward it
#3293 [14:22] <fogWraith> This is a job for... SuperVulpine!
#3294 [14:22] <aetherian> (or me)
#3295 [14:22] <aetherian> forwarding was easy
#3296 [14:22] <aetherian> what OS ya on
#3297 [14:22] <aetherian> windows?
#3298 [14:22] <fogWraith> FreeDOS :(
#3299 [14:22] <panitaliemom> So how do i have a friend connect to my game? Yes windows xp
#3300 [14:22] <drezi> !check 76.74.156.71:26065
#3301 [14:22] <bobingabout> i had to do forwarding on my Router itself
#3302 [14:23] <drezi> :)
#3303 [14:23] <aetherian> panit: goto "run" and type in cmd
#3304 [14:23] <aetherian> press enter
#3305 [14:23] <aetherian> g2g
#3306 [14:23] <drezi> like always, minecraft is down :o
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#3308 [14:23] <AwaX> hi !
#3309 [14:24] <drezi> what a shocker
#3310 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> !isdown minecraft.net:80
#3311 [14:24] <GreyBot> DopeGhoti: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net%3A80 looks down from here.
#3312 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> ..
#3313 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> !isdown minecraft.net
#3314 [14:24] <GreyBot> DopeGhoti: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#3315 [14:24] <drezi> i mean
#3316 [14:25] <panitaliemom> anybody know how to connect to a friends server?
#3317 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> "ProTip: net:80 is not a top-level domain"
#3318 [14:25] <drezi> i cant connect to servers
#3319 [14:25] <drezi> the server connection isnt working
#3320 [14:25] <panitaliemom> hmm
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#3323 [14:27] * fogWraith shakes the mojang servers as he would an infant
#3323 [14:27] <fogWraith> I mean... hrr
#3324 [14:27] <AwaX> i need someone who has already created a server, because i try to create mine but i don't know how it works, i created it with the package given by the website, i started it and it apparently works but i don't know how to play with it
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#3326 [14:28] <bobingabout> !check bobingabout.dyndns-home.com
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#3328 [14:29] <bobingabout> i wish i could have a shorter address for a Dynamic IP X3
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#3330 [14:30] <fogWraith> noip.com ?
#3331 [14:30] <TF> i get software caused connection abort: recv failed on my laptop, but it runs just fine on my workstation. any ide?
#3332 [14:30] <bobingabout> i got the address from dyndns.com X3
#3333 [14:31] <aetherian> so sorry about that, I'm back
#3334 [14:32] <aetherian> anyone here try the chrome os?
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#3336 [14:33] <SuperAlekZ> oh, so this is the official one
#3337 [14:33] <SuperAlekZ> does anyone know how to setup "pigmap"? :/
#3338 [14:33] <aetherian> o.o
#3339 [14:33] <aetherian> no 3rd party mod support here
#3340 [14:34] <Elvang> Well this is odd
#3341 [14:34] <Elvang> My guy no longer seems to take fall damage.
#3342 [14:34] <aetherian> lucky
#3343 [14:34] <aetherian> I gotta find out how to install linux on a partition without my windows
#3344 [14:35] <aetherian> *ruining my windows
#3345 [14:35] <aetherian> so brb
#3346 [14:35] <bobingabout> it isn't really all that hard to do actually
#3347 [14:35] * aetherian is scared he may inadvertently balete his c:\
#3347 [14:35] <Elvang> Er actually, it appears I do take fall damage but I regenerate half a heart every second :\
#3348 [14:35] <fogWraith> LiveCD's ftw
#3349 [14:35] <fogWraith> Load that shit from CD/DVD & RAM
#3350 [14:36] <bobingabout> the hardest part i found about installing linux on my minecraft server is that it wouldn't let me choose not to use the LVDS port as the default screen, which is really a problem since i don't have an LVDS screen
#3351 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: that's called "peaceful"
#3352 [14:36] <aetherian> yeah...
#3353 [14:36] <Elvang> :O
#3354 [14:36] <fogWraith> Linux on minecraft server?
#3355 [14:36] <fogWraith> Not the other way around?
#3356 [14:36] <Elvang> I had it on hard though :o
#3357 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> what fogWraith said.
#3358 [14:36] <aetherian> check that
#3359 [14:36] <aetherian> elvang
#3360 [14:36] <bobingabout> when i said minecraft server, i mean the machine i'm using for it
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#3363 [14:36] <Elvang> hmm
#3364 [14:36] <aetherian> wtf
#3365 [14:36] <Essentials2413> Hello?
#3366 [14:36] <nevercast> Morning.
#3367 [14:37] <bobingabout> its an odd computer with an LVDS port for laptop screen... on a PC motherboard
#3368 [14:37] <nevercast> aetherian, DopeGhoti, hey.
#3369 [14:37] <aetherian> omgitzcav3man has offered Crypted_iStealer.ese (397863 bytes)
#3370 [14:37] <aetherian> what the hell
#3371 [14:37] <aetherian> no thank you
#3372 [14:37] <bobingabout> so, Linux assumes its a laptop, and defaults the LVDS as the default screen
#3373 [14:37] <nevercast> bobingabout: i imagine that can be set in the bios
#3374 [14:37] <bobingabout> which means once the initial setup is complete, i can't see anything
#3375 [14:38] <Essentials2413> I was wondering is there a way to dis-able the homes in the Essentials v167:Basics plugin?
#3376 [14:38] <bobingabout> nope, you can't turn it off in the BIOS
#3377 [14:38] <nevercast> bobingabout: otherwise you might need to reconfigure X
#3378 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> "LVDS"?
#3379 [14:38] <fogWraith> Essentials2413, #essentials
#3380 [14:38] <Essentials2413> ?
#3381 [14:38] <bobingabout> LVDS in terms of computers is a Laptop screen data socket, for the newer LED backlit screens
#3382 [14:39] <nevercast> hey fogWraith
#3383 [14:39] <Essentials2413> I was wondering is there a way to dis-able the homes in the Essentials v167:Basics plugin?
#3384 [14:39] <fogWraith> Hi nevercast
#3385 [14:39] <fogWraith> Essentials2413, #essentials
#3386 [14:39] <aetherian> heya nevercast
#3387 [14:39] <aetherian> not banned yet ;p
#3388 [14:39] <Essentials2413> Yes or No??
#3389 [14:39] <nevercast> aetherian: I walk on the line.
#3390 [14:39] <nevercast> aetherian: Like always
#3391 [14:39] <lukegb> Essentials2413: #essentials
#3392 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> Essentials2413: Here? No.
#3393 [14:39] <xales> Essentials2413: Ask in #essentials as you have been told ._.
#3394 [14:40] <aetherian> lmao
#3395 [14:40] <Essentials2413> Ohhhhh diffrent channel im new here
#3396 [14:40] <lukegb> Derp, don't have /kick in here :/
#3397 [14:40] <aetherian> hilight spam
#3398 [14:40] <nevercast> aetherian: i don't actually ever break rules, and i'm helpful. lol.
#3399 [14:40] <SuperAlekZ> aetherian, pigmap is no 3rd party mod. it's a map-file (.png) creator for minecraft-servers.
#3400 [14:40] <aetherian> dotdotdot
#3401 [14:40] <aetherian> wait what
#3402 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> SuperAlekZ: so, it's a third-party utility; not a mod.
#3403 [14:41] <nevercast> wait what.
#3404 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> SuperAlekZ: still, it's third-party.
#3405 [14:41] <nevercast> map-file (png)
#3406 [14:41] <nevercast> wtf.
#3407 [14:41] <aetherian> so lesee... in order to run this program... delete partition c:\... that sounds right...
#3408 [14:41] <SuperAlekZ> yea, probably. still I can ask for help here.
#3409 [14:41] <lukegb> nevercast: hmm?
#3410 [14:41] <SuperAlekZ> nevercast, http://minecraft.superlevel.de/pigmap/
#3411 [14:41] <SuperAlekZ> like that
#3412 [14:41] <lukegb> nevercast: don't see the problem there.
#3413 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: most maps are images. .png files are images. Not rocket surgery (:
#3414 [14:41] <nevercast> lukegb: since when are maps png?
#3415 [14:41] <aetherian> ...
#3416 [14:41] <fogWraith> Rocket... surgery?
#3417 [14:41] <nevercast> lol.
#3418 [14:41] <SuperAlekZ> nevercast, just look at this lol http://minecraft.superlevel.de/pigmap/
#3419 [14:42] <aetherian> lul
#3420 [14:42] <SuperAlekZ> then you'll know
#3421 [14:42] * fogWraith smacks DopeGhoti
#3421 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> fogWraith: as opposed to brain science?
#3422 [14:42] <lukegb> nevercast: it generates a *map* of your world
#3423 [14:42] <lukegb> As in
#3424 [14:42] <fogWraith> :|
#3425 [14:42] <lukegb> A graphical representation thereof
#3426 [14:42] <nevercast> oh!
#3427 [14:42] <nevercast> it doesn't generate a map
#3428 [14:42] <nevercast> it renders your world
#3429 [14:42] <nevercast> a map you can use for directions
#3430 [14:42] <nevercast> good luck
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#3432 [14:42] <Dravenable> hi
#3433 [14:43] <nevercast> Hi
#3434 [14:43] <SuperAlekZ> lol..
#3435 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> Welcome, Dravenable.
#3436 [14:43] <Dravenable> Can somebody explain me how to fix the Protocol Error???
#3437 [14:43] <lukegb> nevercast: this is why I separate 'world' from 'map' - it spares confusion :P
#3438 [14:43] <lukegb> s/spares/avoids/
#3439 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> Dravenable: Could you be more specific?
#3440 [14:43] <nevercast> lukegb: exactly!
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#3442 [14:43] <Dravenable> ok
#3443 [14:43] <Dravenable> i got added to somebodys whitelist on minecrafyt
#3444 [14:43] <Dravenable> minecraft*
#3445 [14:43] <nevercast> lukegb: and 'map' from 'render' imho
#3446 [14:43] <Dravenable> and i opened minecraft, multiplayer, filled in IP, joined
#3447 [14:43] <nevercast> whitelist? mod?
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#3449 [14:44] <Dravenable> and it said (not mod)
#3450 [14:44] <Dravenable> Disconnected from server (underneath that) Protocol error
#3451 [14:44] <xales> Dravenable: Try connecting to 'smp.shadow-craft.net' as the IP
#3452 [14:44] <zippity> Hi everyone!
#3453 [14:44] <xales> zippity: Hello
#3454 [14:44] <zippity> can you help me? I can't play with the free version
#3455 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> do-dah, zippity!
#3456 [14:44] <Dravenable> that works :O
#3457 [14:44] <Dravenable> so its the server ._>
#3458 [14:45] <xales> Dravenable: Correct
#3459 [14:45] <nevercast> Dravenable: then it's probably the server, correct
#3460 [14:45] <xales> zippity: Define "can't play"
#3461 [14:45] <Dravenable> great ._. xD
#3462 [14:45] <Dravenable> then i have 1 last question
#3463 [14:45] <nevercast> yes?
#3464 [14:45] <Dravenable> is there any server that DOES work and without whitelist? AND survival!!!
#3465 [14:45] <zippity> hem, there is message "org.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated"
#3466 [14:46] <xales> zippity: You need to update your graphics card drivers
#3467 [14:46] <nevercast> Dravenable: i thought all beta servers were Survival?
#3468 [14:46] <xales> Dravenable: The one I just gave you does.
#3469 [14:46] <Dravenable> i know but i has to ask for whitelist
#3470 [14:46] <zippity> and how can I do that? O_o
#3471 [14:46] <nevercast> zippity, what's your graphics card?
#3472 [14:46] <Dravenable> and i just tryd to join
#3473 [14:46] <nevercast> zippity, if you don't know. What OS are you running?
#3474 [14:47] <Dravenable> SilverCraft and he said i got accepted... then i got that error xd and now i joined that shadow server and everything is alright so i exually need a good survival serv ._.
#3475 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: Technically, yes, but some servers choose to play differently. "Creative beta servers" for example, might have monsters turned off, and wrappers for /give commands so folks can build uninhibited.
#3476 [14:47] <zippity> I don't know, wait a minute, I'll try to find the information ;)
#3477 [14:47] <xales> Dravenable: The shadowcraft server is a good survival server
#3478 [14:47] <Dravenable> is it survival???
#3479 [14:48] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, okay makes sense.. I think if I ever write a mod, it will be to keep mobs turned on. but they don't attack new players for 72 hours
#3480 [14:48] <xales> All beta servers are 'survival'
#3481 [14:48] <nevercast> ^
#3482 [14:49] <TF> any idea why the recv error keeps showing on my laptop? it works fine on lan servers
#3483 [14:49] <Dravenable> alright ill take a look in Shadow serv :D ill be back if i need more information
#3484 [14:49] <Dravenable> thanks for all guys!!
#3485 [14:49] <nevercast> welcome
#3486 [14:49] <xales> TF: What exactly is the error?
#3487 [14:49] <nevercast> TF, and is your laptop using wireless or ethernet/
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#3489 [14:49] <TF> nevercast: wireless
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#3491 [14:49] <TF> xales: Software caused connection abort: recv failed
#3492 [14:50] <zippity> I think I've found it. Graphics card: Mobile Intel (R) 945GM Express Chipset Family
#3493 [14:50] <xales> TF: When do you get that?
#3494 [14:50] <nevercast> zippity: gotta love shitty mobile intel graphiocs
#3495 [14:50] <nevercast> *graphics
#3496 [14:50] <TF> xales: just seconds after i join my server, my workstation who also are running on wireless on the same network is working though
#3497 [14:50] <nevercast> zippity: Fortuanately Minecraft hardly uses the GPU. go to intel site, find your laptop, go to display drivers, download latest.
#3498 [14:51] <xales> zippity: wow, that card is pretty horrific bad. I wouldn't expect it to work very well. Look on the intel support site for drivers
#3499 [14:51] <xales> If it lags though, thats to be expected
#3500 [14:51] <nevercast> xales, i'm using a similar card in my laptop it runs fine.
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#3503 [14:51] <nevercast> xales, you'll find most the lag is caused by cpu specs
#3504 [14:51] <xales> nevercast: I've had someone with a 950GM that couldn't even get it to load openGL
#3505 [14:51] <nevercast> xales, haha! fail.
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#3507 [14:52] <xales> TF: Can you try plugging the laptop in to ethernet, see if that works?
#3508 [14:52] <AjayKay> Hi
#3509 [14:52] <xales> Hello
#3510 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: "hardly uses" the GPU?
#3511 [14:52] <TF> i'll try that
#3512 [14:52] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: Correct.
#3513 [14:52] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: My Graphics card runs cold on Minecraft and my CPU does about 40/50%
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#3515 [14:52] <AjayKay> I wanted to download a texture pack. But it tells me to put everything in the Minecraft.jar archive in the bin folder
#3516 [14:52] <zippity> ok, thank you very much! I'll try to find sth better ;)
#3517 [14:52] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: Spikes to like, 70% each time it has to raytrace.. which is a GPU thing typically
#3518 [14:53] <zippity> See you!
#3519 [14:53] <AjayKay> I don't have one though.. And I just did a fresh reinstall of minecraft.
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#3521 [14:53] <nevercast> AjayKay: what operating system?
#3522 [14:53] <AjayKay> Vista
#3523 [14:53] <nevercast> AjayKay: What's your user name on the computer?
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#3525 [14:53] <AjayKay> Shay
#3526 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> AjayKay: any texture packs that ask you to extract the .jar are old and should not be used
#3527 [14:53] <mib_3rhz4v> I have a problem when I join multiplayer on my friend server I can't dig
#3528 [14:53] <nevercast> AjayKay: C:\Users\Shay\AppData\.minecraft\bin\
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#3530 [14:53] <FpsJack> Does using glass on water still cause mobs to sink down to the bottom?
#3531 [14:53] <AjayKay> Oh, ok.
#3532 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> AjayKay: they should ask you to just place the .zip file into a textures directory to be activated in-game
#3533 [14:54] <xales> mib_3rhz4v: Move away from the spawn
#3534 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> AjayKay: (you'll notice the menu has a "mods and textures" option or somesuch)
#3535 [14:54] <nevercast> ^
#3536 [14:54] <AjayKay> Okay thanks, but the thread for the pack says updated on the 30th
#3537 [14:54] <AjayKay> Of Jan
#3538 [14:55] <AjayKay> And there hasnt been an update since then has there?
#3539 [14:55] <nevercast> perhaps the textures are updated
#3540 [14:55] <nevercast> but it's still an oldschool method
#3541 [14:55] <AjayKay> okay thank you anyway :)
#3542 [14:55] <nevercast> :)
#3543 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> AjayKay: the correct mode of texture packs has been around for a long time; the texpack author is lazy and not adjusting to doing it properly.
#3544 [14:55] <nevercast> ... I've never liked the idea of mods. I reckon someone could jack your user/pass with so much ease
#3545 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: that's one reason I'm waiting for the API.
#3546 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: See also the MCAdmin debacle.
#3547 [14:56] <AjayKay> Thank you alot anyway :) So what must I do with updated ones then?
#3548 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> (and that wasn't even for a mod, but a glorified wrapper IIRC)
#3549 [14:56] <AjayKay> Just extract all files into that folder?
#3550 [14:56] <nevercast> AjayKay: Put them in the texture folder thingy boob that DopeGhoti said :D
#3551 [14:56] <AjayKay> ty
#3552 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> AjayKay: not even that; just put the .zip file into the textures folder and they'll show up on the menu
#3553 [14:57] <AjayKay> Oh and also
#3554 [14:57] <AjayKay> Where is the launcher for minecraft?
#3555 [14:57] <AjayKay> Since the reinstall I dont seem to have one
#3556 [14:57] <mib_3rhz4v> No matter how far away a move I can dig nor can I place blocks like dirt
#3557 [14:57] <AjayKay> Shortcut thingy
#3558 [14:57] <mib_3rhz4v> I cannot*
#3559 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> !client
#3560 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> AjayKay: ^
#3561 [14:58] <nevercast> AjayKay: I think it's like, http://minecraft.com/download/mi
#3562 [14:58] <nevercast> eh
#3563 [14:58] <nevercast> yeah what aubot said
#3564 [14:58] <xales> mib_3rhz4v: Does he have any mods on his server?
#3565 [14:58] <TF> xales: same error message on ethernet :s
#3566 [14:58] <AjayKay> thanks :D
#3567 [14:58] <mib_3rhz4v> no
#3568 [14:58] <nevercast> TF, Operating system was?
#3569 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> AjayKay: cheers (:
#3570 [14:59] <xales> DopeGhoti, nevercast, if anyone has minecraft.net resolving to this IP (99.198.121.104) or it is in their hosts file, they were using MCcheat and probably have the account pwned even if you fix it for them...just so you know
#3571 [14:59] <TF> nevercast: windows 7 x64 on both machines
#3572 [14:59] <nevercast> xales, my hosts file is read-only and locked to administrator
#3573 [14:59] <nevercast> xales, thats on windows. as for linux.. all that shit needs root
#3574 [14:59] <jkoby> has anyone else had issues running the client on a machine with an intel gma 945?
#3575 [14:59] <TF> but the only difference is that the game works on my workstation
#3576 [14:59] <xales> nevercast, indeed.
#3577 [15:00] <nevercast> jkoby: everyone probably1
#3578 [15:00] <xales> jkoby: Update drivers, if it still doesn't work, probably won't
#3579 [15:00] <nevercast> jkoby: intel mobile sucks
#3580 [15:00] <xales> TF: Make sure you disabled wireless after plugging it in to ethernet
#3581 [15:00] <jkoby> nevercast + xales: i had it working on this machine before, i just can't find the same driver again >.<
#3582 [15:00] <AjayKay> Okay and now Ive extracted the files to the Texture pack folder but I can't choose it when I launch minecraft.
#3583 [15:00] <AjayKay> C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\texturepacks
#3584 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> UAC: Training people to blindly click "OK" to system changes since 2005.
#3585 [15:00] <TF> xales: i disconnected the wireless network before i connected the ethernet-cable
#3586 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> AjayKay: again, don't excract the zip file; just _put_ it there.
#3587 [15:01] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: LOL
#3588 [15:01] <AjayKay> oh didnt see that. thanks
#3589 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> AjayKay: np :)
#3590 [15:01] <xales> TF: Any firewall running on it?
#3591 [15:01] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: AppData\Roaming.. is this correct?
#3592 [15:01] <xales> nevercast: It is
#3593 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> %AppData%\.minecraft\textures IIRC
#3594 [15:02] * nevercast does a find and replace for minecraft data directory in regards to Widnows Vista and 7.
#3594 [15:02] * DopeGhoti plays so vanilla, he doesn't even use texture packs, despite not being able to unsee the "compass" in cobblestone.
#3594 [15:02] * nevercast has reprogrammed his mental EEPROM successfully
#3594 [15:02] <TF> xales: im running kaspersky which i tried to disable earlier, but i run the exact same antivirus on my workstation
#3595 [15:02] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: there's a compass in cobblestone?
#3596 [15:02] <xales> lukegb: ._.
#3597 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: "%AppData%" should work in all Windows versions descented from NT.
#3598 [15:02] * lukegb goes to google
#3598 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> Lipsion: Look for the L.
#3599 [15:03] * xales pokes Kealper
#3599 [15:03] * xales pokes Kealper
#3599 [15:03] * xales pokes Kealper
#3599 [15:03] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: eugh love to Environ
#3600 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> er, lukegb not Lipsion, sorry.
#3601 [15:03] <xales> TF: When Kealper is on, ask him about how to get the network card's buffers to a reasonable level, that is possibly why it is doing that
#3602 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: If, looking at the Cobblestone floor, you see a black L, you're facing North.
#3603 [15:03] <xales> .vprotect
#3604 [15:03] <MCHelpBot> Disabling voice protection
#3605 [15:03] <nevercast> xales, eventually notch will rewrite the protocol hopefully!
#3606 [15:04] <xales> hopefully, maybe...
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#3608 [15:04] <xales> about as likely as that guy who wanted to get an xbox port >.>
#3609 [15:04] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: i guess that's a mod?
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#3611 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: no, that's the standard Cobblestone texture
#3612 [15:04] <TF> xales: could you do that on a wireless nic? anyways some of my classmates can connect with their laptops which are the same as mine except that theyre running windows xp which the school installed
#3613 [15:04] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: interesting
#3614 [15:05] <nevercast> TF, stop other networking programs? ie torrents?
#3615 [15:05] <xales> TF: yeah, that is likely the issue. Kealper knows how to do it, I only know how to do it on XP >.>
#3616 [15:05] <nevercast> TF, Minecraft requires a rediculous amount of bandwidth
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#3619 [15:06] <MaxEric93> !test 82.225.166.186:25565
#3620 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aPpowMHoko
#3621 [15:06] <TF> nevercast: still no luck :/
#3622 [15:06] <xales> it's !check, and you don't need the port number if it is 25565
#3623 [15:06] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: i'm at course... can't watch youtube
#3624 [15:06] <MaxEric93> Thx ;)
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#3626 [15:06] <MaxEric93> !check 82.225.166.186
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#3628 [15:06] <FpsJack> Anyone playing online?
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#3631 [15:06] <TF> xales: isnt it kinda similar on win7?
#3632 [15:06] <oddlander> how do you find your multiplyer pin
#3633 [15:06] <xales> FpsJack: If you are looking for a server, try http://minestatus.net/
#3634 [15:06] <nevercast> xales, does AuBot just connect. Or does it connect, log in and then confirm?
#3635 [15:07] <xales> oddlander: "multiplayer pin"?
#3636 [15:07] <nevercast> oddlander: lol what?
#3637 [15:07] <FpsJack> Cheers
#3638 [15:07] <xales> nevercast: it just checks the TCP connection
#3639 [15:07] <xales> TF: No idea, I don't use windows 7/vista
#3640 [15:07] <oddlander> like how do you join someone
#3641 [15:07] <nevercast> xales, okay.
#3642 [15:07] <xales> oddlander: Look on a website like http://minestatus.net/
#3643 [15:07] <nevercast> ^
#3644 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> oddlander: both decide to play on the same server..
#3645 [15:07] <nevercast> xales, networking fundimentals should be taught in primary school!
#3646 [15:07] * DopeGhoti needs to book another Rocket Surgery theatre..
#3646 [15:08] <NEED_HELP> guys i need your help every time i play minecraft on my pc my internet gets lost but when i play on my laptop it dosent, do i need to update java or something?
#3647 [15:08] <nevercast> lol.
#3648 [15:08] <xales> nevercast: common sense should be.
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#3650 [15:08] <xales> NEED_HELP: how old is the PC? is it wireless, or plugged in to internet?
#3651 [15:08] <nevercast> NEED_HELP: I LOVE YOUR CAPS..... Internet gets lost? You mean it drops out?
#3652 [15:09] <NEED_HELP> my pc is about 1year old and my laptop is 4years old...
#3653 [15:09] <nevercast> ...
#3654 [15:09] <nevercast> NEED_HELP: os?
#3655 [15:10] <nevercast> NEED_HELP: ethernet or wireless?
#3656 [15:10] <NEED_HELP> ethernet
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#3658 [15:10] <NEED_HELP> and the laptop is wireless..
#3659 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: Atheros network chipset I presume?
#3660 [15:10] <NEED_HELP> hmmm let me just check
#3661 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> NEED_HELP: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=22637
#3662 [15:10] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: Likely
#3663 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: mistab :)
#3664 [15:11] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: my laptop uses Atheros... doesn't drop out unless I try to DOS someone :D
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#3666 [15:11] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: love to tabfail ;)
#3667 [15:11] <xales> I have an Atheros on my laptop too
#3668 [15:11] <nevercast> 6
#3669 [15:11] <nevercast> ^
#3670 [15:11] <nevercast> doesn't everyone
#3671 [15:11] <xales> but it's a Macbook, and I haven't bothered to replace it with a decent OS
#3672 [15:11] <nevercast> linux ;)
#3673 [15:12] <xales> too lazy :(
#3674 [15:12] <nevercast> heh
#3675 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> What's wrong with NetBSD (or is it FreeBSD)?
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#3677 [15:12] <nevercast> How hard is it?
#3678 [15:12] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: Stick your bsD :P
#3679 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: it's quite easy.
#3680 [15:12] * nevercast has keyboard with shit Shift key.
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#3681 [15:13] <nevercast> I have to go now peeps
#3682 [15:13] <nevercast> hope you fix all your problems
#3683 [15:13] <nevercast> or I hope DopeGhoti and xales can :P
#3684 [15:13] <nevercast> pz.
#3685 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> Seriously though, once you ditch Terminal in favor of iTerm2 and install macports, OS X is a nice place to be.
#3686 [15:14] <xales> DopeGhoti: I learned about iterm2 a while ago, not really sure what I'd need to install with macports (I have an ancient version installed, haven't really used it)
#3687 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> xales: I only needed it for a specific build of elinks that I wanted.
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#3689 [15:15] <xales> LOL!
#3690 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> the one real complaint I have about OS X as opposed to other POSIXes is the inability to define a Compose key.
#3691 [15:15] <xales> I like these people
#3692 [15:15] <xales> 14:19:45 -!- Nichlasm1[OP] [Mibbit@0x573b36b7.jynqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #help
#3693 [15:15] <xales> 14:20:05 < Nichlasm1[OP]> Hey what can i do as an OP in a channel
#3694 [15:15] <xales> 14:20:35 -!- Nichlasm1[OP] [Mibbit@0x573b36b7.jynqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has left #help []
#3695 [15:15] <jkoby> lol
#3696 [15:15] <xales> "I'm an op in some small insignificant channel so I'll put [OP] in my name"
#3697 [15:15] <Kealper> lol
#3698 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> xales: you need to macro an answer "You grow an attention span?"
#3699 [15:15] <xales> lol
#3700 [15:16] <Kealper[OP]> SHIT
#3701 [15:16] <xales> the Admin_Dragon guy was better
#3702 [15:16] <Kealper[OP]> -IdleRPG(idle@cecil.rpgamer.com)- Penalty of 0 days, 00:33:06 added to your timer for nick change.
#3703 [15:16] <Kealper[OP]> forgot about that
#3704 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> Tsk tsk, Kealper[OP].
#3705 [15:16] <xales> he went in #lobby and was like "can i be an op plz"
#3706 [15:16] <jkoby[OP]> even better.
#3707 [15:16] * DopeGhoti is now known as DopeGhoti[VOICE]
#3707 [15:16] <xales> obviously, said no, "but im an admin!!1111"
#3708 [15:16] <Kealper[OP]> people are probably so confused right now lol
#3709 [15:16] <xales> (to a bunch of opers)
#3710 [15:16] <xales> >.>
#3711 [15:16] <Kealper[OP]> well, here comes another 33 min!
#3712 [15:17] <xales> :P
#3713 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> Yay!
#3714 [15:17] * xales is now known as xales[SUPEROP:D]
#3714 [15:17] <jkoby[HALFOP]> (for the truly leet)
#3715 [15:18] <Kealper[OP]> is my nick just failing or something?
#3716 [15:18] <jkoby[HALFOP]> are you in #minecraft, too?
#3717 [15:18] <xales> he parted
#3718 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> jkoby[HALFOP]: not really. there's no such thing as a halfop outside of odd bot conventions.
#3719 [15:18] * Kealper[OP] checks modes on all channels
#3719 [15:18] <xales> oh, #idle
#3720 [15:18] <xales> LOLOLOLOL
#3721 [15:18] <xales> part = very big penalty
#3722 [15:18] <jkoby[HALFOP]> DopeGhoti: ahh, i've seen different ircds do halfops differently.
#3723 [15:18] <Kealper[OP]> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
#3724 [15:18] <Kealper[OP]> #idle is +M
#3725 [15:18] <Kealper[OP]> and a part is a p200
#3726 [15:19] <Kealper[OP]> fuck this i'm killing irssi
#3727 [15:19] <xales> might as well disconnect then
#3728 [15:19] <xales> just /reconnect
#3729 [15:19] <xales> :)
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#3731 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> wait.. It's +M but you were able to change your nick once already..
#3732 [15:19] <xales> LOL
#3733 [15:19] * Kealper[OP] rages
#3733 [15:19] <xales> DopeGhoti: He was +r then, and could change it, as he could have spoken
#3734 [15:19] <xales> but he lost the +r
#3735 [15:19] <xales> Kealper[OP]: /reconnect -nick Kealper
#3736 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#3737 [15:19] <xales> maybe
#3738 [15:19] <Kealper[OP]> yeah, noticed
#3739 [15:19] <xales> nah, just /disconnect
#3740 [15:20] <xales> then /connect -nick Kealper esper
#3741 [15:20] <xales> or whatever you called it
#3742 [15:20] <Kealper[OP]> ugh
#3743 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> hah
#3744 [15:20] * xales goes home now
#3744 [15:20] * xales is afktime
#3744 [15:21] <jkoby> afk - time for a reboot
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#3746 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> You could have /parted, set your nick, and re/joined as you hadn't signed on to idleRPG yet. Also, which are you better at, ProgressQuest, or idleRPG?
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#3748 [15:22] <NEED_HELP> guys how do i install Atheros drivers (im a newbie x) )
#3749 [15:22] <fogWraith> Get a new network card
#3750 [15:22] <fogWraith> Sorry
#3751 [15:22] * ChanServ kicked Shadow386 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: KICK by Shadow386 (derp))
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#3753 [15:23] <Shadow386> o.o
#3754 [15:23] <NEED_HELP> hum=?
#3755 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> NEED_HELP: directions are in the forum post I directed you to earlier.
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#3757 [15:24] <Kealper`> asdf?
#3758 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> jkl;.
#3759 [15:24] <fogWraith> Most likely, the tweaks - fixes - drivers for Atheros NIC's won't get you very far at all (if you want to run a server), might even fail you with the client
#3760 [15:24] <Kealper`> man this is annoying
#3761 [15:25] <Kealper`> apparently i have issues staying on apocalypse and optical
#3762 [15:25] <NEED_HELP> i know but it dos not say any thing about how to installl the drivers..
#3763 [15:25] <Kealper`> and i gotta change my nick....
#3764 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> You realize that /quitting and /parting are the same exact penalty, right?
#3765 [15:26] <Kealper`> quitting is a p20, parting is a p200
#3766 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> that's a strange choice.
#3767 [15:26] <Kealper`> parting means it was purposeful, quitting could be caused from a split
#3768 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> it also encourages gaming the system much like you are now
#3769 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> which is why I thought they (and logging out) were the same penalty
#3770 [15:27] <Kealper`> ikr?
#3771 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> logout and quit are indeed the same
#3772 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> so log out, and you can /part without the 200
#3773 [15:28] <Kealper`> damnit, that will still be another 33 minutes
#3774 [15:28] <Kealper`> i've got it!
#3775 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> that or just absorb the backtick
#3776 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> or DDoS the bot.
#3777 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> Also, uhh, why does it matter?
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#3779 [15:30] <Kealper`> :NickServ!services@esper.net NOTICE Kealper :Password accepted -- you are now recognized.
#3780 [15:30] <aetherian> ugh
#3781 [15:30] <aetherian> this is getting annoying
#3782 [15:31] <AjayKay> Hey again
#3783 [15:31] <aetherian> hey
#3784 [15:31] <aetherian> sup
#3785 [15:31] <AjayKay> I downloaded another texture pack which needed the HD texture fix
#3786 [15:31] <aetherian> oh no
#3787 [15:31] <AjayKay> But now when I run Minecraft I just get a black screen and it stops responding
#3788 [15:32] <AjayKay> ;o
#3789 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> "stop doing that."
#3790 [15:32] <AjayKay> ah how come?
#3791 [15:32] <Kealper`> these services are useless....screw it i'll take the penalty
#3792 [15:32] <aetherian> what services o.o
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#3794 [15:32] <Kealper`> irc services
#3795 [15:32] <aetherian> lol
#3796 [15:32] <aetherian> why the `
#3797 [15:33] <Kealper`> can't change my nick
#3798 [15:33] <Kealper`> #idle has +M
#3799 [15:33] <aetherian> o.o
#3800 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> well, he _Can_
#3801 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> he choses not to.
#3802 [15:33] <AjayKay> Whats up with the HD texture fix thing guys?
#3803 [15:33] <aetherian> then leave #idle for a bit
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#3805 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> AjayKay: it's an unsupported mod.
#3806 [15:33] <AjayKay> i see
#3807 [15:33] <AjayKay> So what shall I do?
#3808 [15:33] <aetherian> delete the texture pack
#3809 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> Not use textures that need that fix?
#3810 [15:33] <aetherian> from your texture pack foldeer
#3811 [15:33] <aetherian> orr
#3812 [15:34] <AjayKay> I mean now to fix this
#3813 [15:34] <aetherian> manually change it back
#3814 [15:34] <Kealper> hmm....that only added 22 minutes for logging out
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#3817 [15:35] <AjayKay> Manually changed it back how? ^o)
#3818 [15:35] <aetherian> go to appdata
#3819 [15:35] <aetherian> roaming
#3820 [15:35] <aetherian> .minecraft
#3821 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#3822 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> ^ that
#3823 [15:35] <aetherian> and editt options.txt
#3824 [15:35] <aetherian> no, dopeghoti
#3825 [15:35] <AjayKay> oh.
#3826 [15:35] <aetherian> open options.txt
#3827 [15:35] <AjayKay> ok, opened.
#3828 [15:35] <aetherian> and it should have a line it about texture pakcs
#3829 [15:35] <aetherian> packs
#3830 [15:36] <Elvang> What do you guys use obsidian for other than portals?
#3831 [15:36] <AjayKay> yep. delete or just remove name of pack?
#3832 [15:36] <aetherian> remove the name
#3833 [15:36] <aetherian> I believe
#3834 [15:36] <aetherian> then save
#3835 [15:36] <AjayKay> thanks :D
#3836 [15:36] <aetherian> and try to open minecraft.jar/exe/(lolmac)
#3837 [15:37] <AjayKay> And Elvang, I use it to make structures pretty because I think it looks nice
#3838 [15:37] <aetherian> I use it for bomb shelters
#3839 [15:37] <aetherian> and to make cannons that I don't know will work
#3840 [15:37] <aetherian> ;o
#3841 [15:37] <Elvang> Heh. Too much effort to use it for anything other than portals for me x)
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#3843 [15:37] <aetherian> what do you mean, mining obsidian is the funnest part of the game imo =\
#3844 [15:37] <Elvang> :o
#3845 [15:38] <Elvang> Must be my lack of diamonds that has prevented me from experiencing this...
#3846 [15:38] <aetherian> go jump in a cave
#3847 [15:38] <Elvang> I have a stack of 5 laying around somewhere near where I last got creeperd
#3848 [15:39] <Elvang> Just gotta find my way back to that part of this ridiculously mazelike cave
#3849 [15:39] <aetherian> !check
#3850 [15:39] <aetherian> :D
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#3852 [15:40] <aetherian> w ell, I think having a one letter name makes it too easy to get hilighted often
#3853 [15:40] <aetherian> :O
#3854 [15:40] <FpsJack> I like obsidian purely for it's explosion resistance
#3855 [15:40] <FpsJack> I have bad luck with creepers around my home
#3856 [15:40] <aetherian> quit building glass houses
#3857 [15:41] <aetherian> :|
#3858 [15:41] <aetherian> is it just me, or does (:| look like a monkey
#3859 [15:42] <FpsJack> Just you.
#3860 [15:42] <aetherian> really though
#3861 [15:42] <aetherian> the ( is the top of the head
#3862 [15:42] <aetherian> like... like... a sock monkey
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#3864 [15:44] <aetherian> w hy, hello there.
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#3866 [15:50] <aetherian> oh this is awesome
#3867 [15:51] <aetherian> having linux run in a 64kram vm
#3868 [15:51] <Callidus> woo. I made a self resetting minecart system
#3869 [15:51] <aetherian> onice
#3870 [15:51] <aetherian> I call mine
#3871 [15:51] <aetherian> big hills\
#3872 [15:51] <Callidus> anyone want to see?
#3873 [15:51] <Callidus> its on my server
#3874 [15:51] <FpsJack> yes
#3875 [15:52] <FpsJack> I'll come look :p
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#3877 [15:52] <FpsJack> Whats the i[?
#3878 [15:52] <aetherian> pm him it
#3879 [15:52] <FpsJack> ip?
#3880 [15:52] <Callidus> one sec lemme back it up
#3881 [15:53] <Elvang> Do fluids set off pressure plates?
#3882 [15:53] <aetherian> no
#3883 [15:53] <aetherian> they destroy them
#3884 [15:53] <Elvang> Hmm
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#3887 [15:57] <Coll> sssssssalutations mincraft
#3888 [15:58] <exp0> jesus, kill the creeper
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#3892 [16:00] <sindarus> hi?
#3893 [16:00] <biggerfisch> How do servers get added onto the public server list?
#3894 [16:00] <Elvang> hello
#3895 [16:01] <sindarus> i have no idea.... sorry
#3896 [16:01] <sindarus> hi :)
#3897 [16:01] <sindarus> i'd like to know: is there any bloc that spiders can't climb? can they climd glass?
#3898 [16:01] <sindarus> i understood that they could'nt climb ladders, is that right?
#3899 [16:02] <biggerfisch> I have a friend trying to run a private server, but some people we don't know somehow accessed it, even though it was set to offline mode
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#3901 [16:02] <Elvang> Doesn't offline mode just mean it doesn't authenticate or something?
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#3903 [16:03] <biggerfisch> I'm not sure, I thought it made no outgoing connections at all, but I might be wrong
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#3906 [16:05] <jkoby> great... driver updates don't help, neither the latest intel or the hacked one on the forums.
#3907 [16:05] <jkoby> i don't get it, i had this working before i reinstalled windows...
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#3909 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> sindarus: they can't climb one-block horizontal overhangs
#3910 [16:09] <TF> xales: are he online?
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#3913 [16:14] <Wahrheit> Xales: Kealper: So I got them to open 8080
#3914 [16:15] <TF> anyone else knows how to increase the nic buffer in win7?
#3915 [16:15] <Wahrheit> But it didn't work, timed out
#3916 [16:15] <Wahrheit> Also when I tried to SSH tunnel port 22 it gave me connection refused so I think I did something wrong
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#3918 [16:18] <sindarus> ok, thanks :)
#3919 [16:20] <jkoby> ...and lenovo's gma drivers don't work either.
#3920 [16:20] <jkoby> dubya tee eff?
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#3926 [16:28] <drezi> anyone here rent a server from multiplay, who knows how to run it
#3927 [16:28] <drezi> :/
#3928 [16:28] <drezi> i have a server
#3929 [16:28] <drezi> i just have many questions :P
#3930 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> I run my own, sorry.
#3931 [16:30] <jkoby> no, i rent mine from knowinservers.
#3932 [16:30] <jkoby> but i managae it myself.
#3933 [16:30] <jkoby> manage*
#3934 [16:31] <drezi> a vps?
#3935 [16:32] <sindarus> did you look on the wiki?
#3936 [16:32] <drezi> ?
#3937 [16:32] <drezi> well
#3938 [16:32] <Shadow386> DopeGhoti I can has your firstborn?
#3939 [16:32] <sindarus> crap, i got to go... bye! :) see you later!
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#3941 [16:32] <drezi> i dont think the wiki would help
#3942 [16:32] <drezi> :P
#3943 [16:33] <drezi> for my questions
#3944 [16:33] <Shadow386> well what are your questions?
#3945 [16:33] <drezi> installing mods
#3946 [16:33] <drezi> and profiles
#3947 [16:33] <drezi> and how to activate the profiles
#3948 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: uh, no.
#3949 [16:33] <Shadow386> google is your best friend
#3950 [16:33] <Shadow386> lrn2google
#3951 [16:33] <drezi> :P
#3952 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> wait. sure.
#3953 [16:33] <Shadow386> DopeGhoti please? I'll give you 3 shiny pennies!
#3954 [16:33] * DopeGhoti fork()s.
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#3955 [16:33] <Shadow386> OH SHI-!
#3956 [16:34] <Shadow386> FORK BABBIES
#3957 [16:34] * DopeGhoti hands Shadow386 the child process.
#3957 [16:34] <Shadow386> oh ym
#3958 [16:34] <Shadow386> my*
#3959 [16:34] <Shadow386> not what I was expecting
#3960 [16:34] <drezi> :P
#3961 [16:34] <relsqui> I wish I could put clocks on the wall like signs
#3962 [16:34] <drezi> that would be cool
#3963 [16:35] <SkiingPenguins> ya
#3964 [16:35] <Shadow386> *cough cough* mods for that *cough cough*
#3965 [16:35] <relsqui> *g*
#3966 [16:35] <drezi> lol
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#3968 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: you can, but the despawn after ~5 minutes or so
#3969 [16:35] <relsqui> I don't feel strongly enough to but the server admin about it
#3970 [16:35] <Shadow386> my cat perched themself on my mountain dew box
#3971 [16:35] <relsqui> DopeGhoti: on *walls*?
#3972 [16:35] <Shadow386> DopeGhoti explain what you are speaking of
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#3974 [16:36] <relsqui> I might also just borrow mats for a clock from my friend (whose house I'm in) and replace them later
#3975 [16:36] <exo> sup guys
#3976 [16:36] <exo> i have a quick question
#3977 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> select clock in inventory, face wall, press q. Granded, it'll be a touch below eye-level, and not actually track time..
#3978 [16:36] <exo> heres the problem
#3979 [16:36] <Shadow386> hah
#3980 [16:36] <Shadow386> I see what you did
#3981 [16:36] <exo> i installed a new skin pack yesterday
#3982 [16:36] <exo> it works and all
#3983 [16:36] <Shadow386> but agreed, notch should actually do that...
#3984 [16:37] <exo> but i can't somehow collect cobblestone
#3985 [16:37] <exo> anyone knows why?
#3986 [16:37] <exo> the brick breaks
#3987 [16:37] <DopeGhoti> "watch + stick + iron + plank(2) -> Grandfather clock" would be pretty epic.
#3988 [16:37] <exo> and disappears
#3989 [16:37] <exo> and i cant pick it up
#3990 [16:37] <DopeGhoti> exo: are you using a pick?
#3991 [16:37] <relsqui> DopeGhoti: ha
#3992 [16:37] <exo> because theres nothing to pick up
#3993 [16:37] <exo> i tried doing it with hand, then with wooden axe
#3994 [16:37] <DopeGhoti> exo: try with a pick.
#3995 [16:38] <exo> okay, thanks
#3996 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> axes are for chipping wood; picks are for mining.
#3997 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> cheers, exo
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#3999 [16:39] <exo> thanks DopeGhoti
#4000 [16:39] <exo> that worked
#4001 [16:40] <exo> how could i forget that >_<
#4002 [16:40] <exo> i just thought, i could pick it up with hand anyway
#4003 [16:40] <exo> like i needed just 3 blocks or so
#4004 [16:41] <Elvang> You need clay to make bricks right? Where do you get it from?
#4005 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: clay naturally occurs on some sand beaches.
#4006 [16:41] <Arkose> clay is a blueish colour. It's easy enough to spot.
#4007 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: it's a grey block that looks much like stone at a distance
#4008 [16:42] <Elvang> Alright, thanks.
#4009 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> Arkose: Elvang: it's very _slightly_ bluish.
#4010 [16:42] <Arkose> I was thinking greyish-blue but yes
#4011 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> it's less blue than is obsidian pruple.
#4012 [16:42] <Elvang> So any sandy area next to water, or does it have to be a fairly sizeable body of water?
#4013 [16:42] <Arkose> too early in the morning apparently :D
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#4015 [16:43] <Arkose> any non-pool area, as such, but statistically speaking you're more likely to find it around oceans than smaller areas
#4016 [16:43] <MaxEric93> !check 82.225.166.186
#4017 [16:45] <Kealper> if only self-help could be that easy all the time
#4018 [16:45] <Kealper> well, help in general
#4019 [16:45] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: the thing is, those who can self-help generally don't end up washing up on #MineCraftHelp's shores.
#4020 [16:46] <Kealper> touche
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#4022 [16:48] <DopeGhoti> that was an interesting book.
#4023 [16:49] <relsqui> anybody ever had a person on their server unable to open a specific chest? that is, it's only that person, and only a couple of chests. he can open other chests. other people can open those chests.
#4024 [16:49] <relsqui> totally vanilla server.
#4025 [16:49] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: They're Doing It Wrong, maybe?
#4026 [16:50] <Kealper> he is not server op and the chests are too close to spawn
#4027 [16:50] <relsqui> .....
#4028 [16:50] <relsqui> I didn't know ops were exempt from that. you're right, that's totally it
#4029 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: non-ops can't even open doors near spawn.
#4030 [16:50] <relsqui> right. and he can't open the doors near there either
#4031 [16:51] <relsqui> oy, why didn't I think of that. thank you.
#4032 [16:51] <relsqui> how close is too close?
#4033 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> they cannot modify any blocks in any way
#4034 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> I think it's the 32x32 block in which spawn lies?
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#4036 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> Annoying thing: creepers are, apparently, ops.
#4037 [16:52] <relsqui> eeeenteresting
#4038 [16:52] <relsqui> thanks!
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#4041 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> happy to help,relsqui
#4042 [16:54] <mib_ir6fpx> Is the auth server down?
#4043 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> !isdown www.minecraft.net
#4044 [16:54] <GreyBot> DopeGhoti: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#4045 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> mib_ir6fpx: My sources say 'no'.
#4046 [16:55] <mib_ir6fpx> Hmm me and my friend cant connect
#4047 [16:55] <mib_ir6fpx> two different ISP's
#4048 [16:55] * DopeGhoti is know known as Eight-Ball-Magic-One-Of
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#4049 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> Hi, Dr. Nick! (Why did you not say 'Hi, everybode!'?)
#4050 [16:55] <Jackson413> lol
#4051 [16:55] <dr_nick_uk> gets old
#4052 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> s/de/dy/
#4053 [16:56] <Kealper> .join #minecraft
#4054 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> When it gets old, that's the time you find a new pseudonym.
#4055 [16:56] <Jackson413> lol
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#4058 [16:57] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i wanted aubot to join it, not me lol
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#4061 [17:00] <Kealper> alrighty
#4062 [17:00] <Kealper> gotta remember that so i don't own my bot again
#4063 [17:01] <Elvang> So I can move my spawn up but not down?
#4064 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> To whom will you then bestow ownership?
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#4066 [17:01] <Arkose> Elvang: spawn will be placed on the highest vertical block on that spot. Take out some blocks, the spot will drop lower.
#4067 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: mods notwithstanding, your spawn location is semirandom now.
#4068 [17:01] <Wahrheit> Kealper: how do baleet school proxy
#4069 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> Wahrheit: SSH tunnel?
#4070 [17:02] <Wahrheit> DopeGhoti: Tried it today, it refused connection on port 22
#4071 [17:02] <Wahrheit> what I did was
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#4073 [17:02] <Elvang> Built a mine on my spawn, and purposely left it clear all the way to the sky so that I'd spawn down there, spawned me about 10 blocks west instead :\
#4074 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> Wahrheit: with an SSH server on, say, port 80
#4075 [17:02] <Wahrheit> DopeGhoti: Using Putty, walk me through it
#4076 [17:02] <Wahrheit> I have access to a student account on a windows xp computer, and the proxy requires a login
#4077 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: indeed, spawning is now semirandom centered around the former spawn location
#4078 [17:03] <Arkose> semirandom? Really? <_<
#4079 [17:03] <Elvang> I figured a giant 7x7 hole down to 12z would cover any variations :(
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#4081 [17:06] <Elvang> A booster will send a storage cart farther than an empty one right? occupied > storage > empty?
#4082 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> In my experiments, yes, but only slightly
#4083 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> man, idling in #idle is annoying when new folks start playing, it light up far too frequently
#4084 [17:10] <Elvang> :)
#4085 [17:10] <SkiingPenguins> is that channel a game?
#4086 [17:10] <Elvang> Yea
#4087 [17:12] <Kealper> it's a game where you literally idle
#4088 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: yes; comparable to ProgressQuest
#4089 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> only in IRC
#4090 [17:12] <SkiingPenguins> how do i play it?
#4091 [17:12] <Kealper> just don't talk
#4092 [17:12] <Kealper> or part
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#4094 [17:12] <Kealper> or quit, or change nicks
#4095 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> join channel, follow directions
#4096 [17:12] <SkiingPenguins> hm i quit a lot
#4097 [17:12] <Kealper> be completely idle
#4098 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> Quitting is for quitters.
#4099 [17:13] <Kealper> lol
#4100 [17:13] <SkiingPenguins> i want all the bandwidth i can get for xbox
#4101 [17:13] <Kealper> lol @ what grey called his bot in there
#4102 [17:13] <Kealper> crickets, the Supreme Chirpiness of Chirps
#4103 [17:14] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: if you have to worry about irc saving you bandwidth, you got more than just irc to worry about for internet speed
#4104 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: If you are worried about IRC impacting your games online, you have more serious problems.
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#4106 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> heh
#4107 [17:14] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: jinx
#4108 [17:14] <Kealper> lol
#4109 [17:15] <relsqui> botting idlerpg seems kind of ....
#4110 [17:15] <relsqui> ...
#4111 [17:15] <Kealper> botting?
#4112 [17:15] <relsqui> I was going to say pointless, but we're talking about idlerpg
#4113 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#4114 [17:15] <relsqui> I mean, it's multiplayer progress quest :)
#4115 [17:15] <Kealper> how would one even bot a game like idlerpg...lol
#4116 [17:15] <relsqui> write a bot that connects to a channel and identifies
#4117 [17:15] <relsqui> >_>
#4118 [17:15] <Kealper> i stand corrected
#4119 [17:16] <Kealper> one can bot a game like idlerpg
#4120 [17:16] <Kealper> woohoo! leveled
#4121 [17:16] <relsqui> I'd be lying if I said the thought hadn't crossed my mind though
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#4124 [17:17] <Kealper> just get behind a bnc or something, no need to bot it then lol
#4125 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> if I ran an IRC node, I'd totally have ChanServ sign up
#4126 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> (sxcept ChanServ doesn't actually /join channels on this network)
#4127 [17:17] <xales> DopeGhoti: It does, it just hides
#4128 [17:17] <Kealper> it does
#4129 [17:18] <Kealper> damnit ninja'd
#4130 [17:18] <xales> >:)
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#4132 [17:18] <Kealper> and that would be CHEATING so bad lol
#4133 [17:18] <Wahrheit> Anyone know anything about IPB and parsing avatars? :p
#4134 [17:18] <Kealper> IPB?
#4135 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> really?
#4136 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> !down
#4137 [17:18] <Wahrheit> Invision Power Board
#4138 [17:18] <Kealper> OH
#4139 [17:18] <Kealper> derp
#4140 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> must be a different flavor.
#4141 [17:18] <Kealper> yeah, these services suck :/
#4142 [17:18] <Kealper> can't even gidentify or stuff
#4143 [17:19] * DopeGhoti got spoiles by GamesNet^H^H^HSurge
#4143 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> s/es/ed/
#4144 [17:19] <Kealper> xales: aubot learned about channel 0 :<
#4145 [17:19] <xales> lolwhat
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#4147 [17:19] <Kealper> really..really...
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#4149 [17:20] <xales> LOL
#4150 [17:20] <Wahrheit> goddamnit xales/kealper
#4151 [17:20] <Wahrheit> goddamnit
#4152 [17:20] <Kealper> i didn't mean actually join it lol
#4153 [17:20] <Wahrheit> dsfargeg
#4154 [17:20] <Wahrheit> By the way
#4155 [17:20] * DopeGhoti hands Wahrheit some vowels
#4155 [17:20] <Wahrheit> My server is listening on 8080 but it's timing out
#4156 [17:20] <Wahrheit> FGSFDS
#4157 [17:20] <Kealper> Wahrheit: are you at school right now?
#4158 [17:20] <xales> Outgoing 8080 is probably blocked then
#4159 [17:20] <Wahrheit> Kealper: Nah
#4160 [17:20] <Wahrheit> I'm home now :D
#4161 [17:20] <Kealper> Wahrheit: STOP TALKING FINNISH!!!!
#4162 [17:20] <Kealper> lol
#4163 [17:20] <xales> 443 is the safest
#4164 [17:20] <Wahrheit> Kealper: the game
#4165 [17:21] <Wahrheit> xales: linux won't bind except root
#4166 [17:21] <Wahrheit> so yeah
#4167 [17:21] <Elvang> Is the switch triggered booster on the wiki the only way to start a cart via switch?
#4168 [17:21] <Kealper> your pooch seems screwed on this one
#4169 [17:21] <xales> ^
#4170 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: there are several.
#4171 [17:21] <Wahrheit> Kealper: Then we proceed to steal an admin password and do fuck-all, how do?
#4172 [17:21] <Kealper> Elvang: basically
#4173 [17:21] <Kealper> oh
#4174 [17:21] <Kealper> or not?
#4175 [17:22] <Kealper> well, i guess you could do it with an RS NOR latch and a button
#4176 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: but they all invove sending a cart to boost the one you ride in.
#4177 [17:22] <Elvang> DopeGhoti: Is there a more compact version? Was hoping for something that wouldn't be so tall.
#4178 [17:22] <Kealper> or just punching the button like a madman until you get it
#4179 [17:22] <Kealper> Elvang: there are super compact boosters
#4180 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: I bould one that's about.. three or four vertical blocks
#4181 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> three, I think.
#4182 [17:23] <Kealper> Elvang: are you building this in a smp server?
#4183 [17:23] <Elvang> Nah, ssp
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#4185 [17:23] <ItsCriminal> is it possible to make a double door opening with redstone?
#4186 [17:23] <Elvang> Need something to kickstart my cart at the bottom of my mine shaft
#4187 [17:23] <Boometh> Help! I'm getting an error when I try to join SMP. It says "Internal client error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect"
#4188 [17:23] <Kealper> oh, well.... want to hop on my server for a sec? i'll show you one that could work
#4189 [17:23] <Elvang> Sure
#4190 [17:23] <Wahrheit> elvang: just keep it on a continuous loop and hop in when necessary
#4191 [17:23] <Kealper> Elvang: mc.kealper.com
#4192 [17:23] <Wahrheit> elvang: I could show you my version of that :p
#4193 [17:23] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: yes.
#4194 [17:24] <Kealper> this booster i'll show you is a passive one
#4195 [17:24] <Elvang> Wahrheit: I was going to do that, but the track is eventually going to cross chunk boundaries.
#4196 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> Wahrheit: continuous loops are Bad.
#4197 [17:24] <ItsCriminal> how is this working i try it but nothing or just one door opens
#4198 [17:24] <Boometh> Never mind, I got a new error. It says "Took too long to log in". What happened?
#4199 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: you need to have the one input signal both doors, and invert one of the signals.
#4200 [17:25] <ItsCriminal> yould you make me a tiny picture or a text based tut
#4201 [17:25] <ItsCriminal> i dont know what you mean im to nooby
#4202 [17:25] <ItsCriminal> ^^
#4203 [17:28] <Boometh> I'm getting an error that says ""Internal client error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect"". What's that?
#4204 [17:29] <Jackson413> is it me or is it hard to connect to servers?
#4205 [17:32] <Wahrheit> DopeGhoti: Why?
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#4207 [17:32] <Wahrheit> Elvang: shit son long track
#4208 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> wha?
#4209 [17:32] <Jackson413> dope i need some more help
#4210 [17:32] <Jackson413> turns out my client isnt screwed up
#4211 [17:32] <Wahrheit> Boometh: it means mcnet is down or bad
#4212 [17:33] <Jackson413> cause i can use my bros account
#4213 [17:33] <Wahrheit> Boometh: or your server is dcing
#4214 [17:33] <Elvang> Wahrheit: Not too long, a chunk is only 64x64x128 right?
#4215 [17:33] <Jackson413> any ideas?
#4216 [17:33] <r3nh03k> Hey all. Why would a server kick a properly authenticated browser client with the message "You need to log in!"
#4217 [17:33] <Wahrheit> Elvang: No idea lol.
#4218 [17:33] <Wahrheit> r3nh03k: AuthCraft?
#4219 [17:34] <r3nh03k> Nope, official server downloaded today.
#4220 [17:34] <Wahrheit> r3nh03k: whitelisting?
#4221 [17:34] <ItsCriminal> i made two signals and place on inverter into it but just the door with the inverter opens the other one not
#4222 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: one input, two outouts. One output is inverted and goes to the 'reversed' door.
#4223 [17:35] <r3nh03k> Wahrheit: Not that I know of. I deleted everything but the jar file and let the server regen all it's config files.
#4224 [17:35] <ItsCriminal> i try
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#4226 [17:35] <Jackson413> dope
#4227 [17:35] <Wahrheit> r3nh03k: did you config them...?
#4228 [17:35] <Jackson413> remember when my client was screwed up
#4229 [17:36] <Jackson413> dope?
#4230 [17:36] <Diablothein> Gamestop hath fail'd me
#4231 [17:36] <r3nh03k> Wahrheit: I didn't change the config. Didn't think I needed to.
#4232 [17:36] <Wahrheit> r3nh03k: you kind of need to set it up.
#4233 [17:38] <ItsCriminal> well everything i try is not working for me :D to dumm :D
#4234 [17:39] <Wahrheit> DopeGhoti: Why are infinites bad?
#4235 [17:39] <Wahrheit> ItsCriminal: What are you trying to do?
#4236 [17:39] <ItsCriminal> inverter -> switch|vlock|torch ?
#4237 [17:39] <ItsCriminal> i want two metaldoors open with one switch
#4238 [17:39] <r3nh03k> Wahrheit: How much more setup do I need beyond adding my UID to admin.txt?
#4239 [17:41] <Wahrheit> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server
#4240 [17:41] <Wahrheit> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
#4241 [17:42] <ItsCriminal> we got now both doors opening but the bad is we dont want that it is inside and ouside redstone we want just that the redstone circuit is in the house
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#4243 [17:43] <shmup> okay i've gotta know if this is me or not
#4244 [17:44] <shmup> the only reason i'm wondering is a few days ago everyone was experiencing problems
#4245 [17:44] <r3nh03k> Wahrheit: Java installed, check. Server downloaded, check. Server started, check. Modify server.properties, nothing needs modified. Add username to admin.txt, check. Configure router, no router to configure. Check open port, check.
#4246 [17:44] <shmup> running a server on my vps. still "taking too long to log in" at times
#4247 [17:44] <shmup> my friend just got on.. and i can if i keep trying
#4248 [17:44] <r3nh03k> Wahrheit: Not sure what else to do...
#4249 [17:44] <shmup> is this ME?
#4250 [17:44] <shmup> or something on notch's end
#4251 [17:44] <shmup> with authentification
#4252 [17:44] <ItsCriminal> is your VPN your own computer=
#4253 [17:45] <shmup> my friend hooked me up with the vps. nothing is bogged on it.
#4254 [17:45] <shmup> nothing is wrong with it at all, actually
#4255 [17:45] <shmup> i do other things on it fine. i'm on irssi with it atm, running LAMP as well
#4256 [17:45] <ItsCriminal> well if it is your own computer, try connecting to localhost
#4257 [17:45] <r3nh03k> shmup: your VPS doesn't happen to be Linode, is it?
#4258 [17:45] <shmup> well no it's not
#4259 [17:45] <shmup> no no, it's my friends.. he runs it out of his house
#4260 [17:45] <shmup> bought 5 IPs
#4261 [17:46] <ItsCriminal> ok well try his ip and port
#4262 [17:46] <Elvang> Do boats take damage from being pushed by a cart?
#4263 [17:46] <r3nh03k> shmup: I'm seeing the same thing on a Linode VPS
#4264 [17:46] <shmup> i dont know what you're even asing me to do, ItsCriminal
#4265 [17:46] <shmup> you want me to try connecting to minecraft via his IP and port ..
#4266 [17:46] <shmup> that doesn't make any sense to me :P
#4267 [17:47] <ItsCriminal> the internet ip of him with the minecraft port
#4268 [17:47] <shmup> well i have a domain set up with an adjusted a-record
#4269 [17:47] <shmup> pointing to the IP
#4270 [17:47] <shmup> so i'm doing just that, really
#4271 [17:47] <shmup> like i said, i do connect at times
#4272 [17:47] <ItsCriminal> ok wierd tell me the ip o try it once
#4273 [17:48] <shmup> sure, let me PM you
#4274 [17:48] <shmup> http://pastie.org/1546921
#4275 [17:50] <r3nh03k> Additional information: The client eventually dies with a java.lang.NullPointerException. This is both with the browser client and the downloaded stand-alone client.
#4276 [17:52] <Elvang> Geh, crashed.
#4277 [17:53] <xales> shmup: The "took too long to login" is somewhat normal, there are some issues with minecraft.net recently
#4278 [17:53] <shmup> that is what i was thinking
#4279 [17:53] <shmup> i knew it was THAT specific problem a week ago
#4280 [17:53] <shmup> didn't know if it was still ongoing
#4281 [17:53] <xales> Unfortunately, it is. They are still waiting to move to another cloud provider
#4282 [17:53] <xales> They don't want to just screw it up more by moving until they are sure everythign will work
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#4284 [17:54] <Elvang> Is there an upper limit to cart momentum?
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#4286 [17:54] <SkiingPenguins> momentum as in max speed?
#4287 [17:55] <Elvang> No, how much energy is has left to keep moving
#4288 [17:55] <Elvang> it*
#4289 [17:55] <SkiingPenguins> oh, i have no idea
#4290 [17:55] <Elvang> Was wondering if its better to have just one long boost in the beginning or several scattered along the path
#4291 [17:56] <r3nh03k> Even trying a local server with a local client using localhost fails to connect (Took too long)
#4292 [17:56] <xales> r3nh03k: Minecraft.net might just be having issues again, wait a little while and see if it works
#4293 [17:56] <SkiingPenguins> Elvang ive heard it's best to have several, but i dont know how credible that is
#4294 [17:57] <Elvang> I'm using several just because of size constraints in me design, but I'd rather just one so I didn't need 8 carts.
#4295 [17:57] <Elvang> my*
#4296 [17:57] <GV> !ping
#4297 [17:57] <GreyBot> GV Your Ping time was 0.21 Seconds.
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#4299 [18:02] <Wahrheit> How can I disable the flying mod in the Zombe modpack?
#4300 [18:02] <Wahrheit> on my server
#4301 [18:02] <Wahrheit> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=96815
#4302 [18:03] <xales> I don't think you can..?
#4303 [18:03] <Wahrheit> But flying makes you invisible :(
#4304 [18:05] <Elvang> Gagh!
#4305 [18:06] <Elvang> I just figured out how I could've made a single cart work for 8+ boosters on a spiral :\
#4306 [18:07] <Elvang> Would've been omnidirectional too x(
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#4308 [18:08] <Muvaria> hi, thinking of trying multiplayer. anyone know any good servers?
#4309 [18:08] <Muvaria> I have no skills
#4310 [18:09] <xales> http://minestatus.net/
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#4312 [18:10] <Muvaria> thank you so much!
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#4318 [18:31] <dracoxero> hey everyone
#4319 [18:31] <dracoxero> is anyone available for some quick help?
#4320 [18:32] <dracoxero> anyone?
#4321 [18:35] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#4322 [18:35] <Cial> what do you need
#4323 [18:36] <dracoxero> sorry
#4324 [18:36] <dracoxero> i was wondering
#4325 [18:36] <ItsCriminal> does the snow come back if you took it for snowballs?
#4326 [18:36] <dracoxero> im currently hosting a server for myself and 2 friends
#4327 [18:36] <Cial> not a problem
#4328 [18:36] <Cial> ItsCriminal, nope
#4329 [18:36] <dracoxero> and i wanted to change rights
#4330 [18:36] <ItsCriminal> ahh damn :D
#4331 [18:36] <dracoxero> so that only people i give rights to can edit the map
#4332 [18:37] <dracoxero> because as of right now anyone that joins can do anything
#4333 [18:37] <Cial> dracoxero, you would need a custom server for that
#4334 [18:37] * Froboy101 [Froboy101@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4335 [18:37] <Froboy101> Hello!
#4336 [18:37] <Cial> i dont know which one but yea
#4337 [18:37] <Froboy101> I need help
#4338 [18:37] <Cial> with what?
#4339 [18:37] <SkiingPenguins> dracoxero try #bukkit there is a way to do it with that server mod
#4340 [18:37] <Froboy101> I got a texture pack and now whenever i open minecraft it just says error has accored
#4341 [18:37] <Froboy101> AND I LOVE MINECRAFT
#4342 [18:37] <SkiingPenguins> pastebin the error
#4343 [18:38] <Froboy101> ???
#4344 [18:38] <SkiingPenguins> go to pastebin.com and paste it there then give us the link
#4345 [18:38] <Froboy101> ummm ok hold on
#4346 [18:38] <SkiingPenguins> >.< seems like some people never used the internet before
#4347 [18:38] <Froboy101> lol
#4348 [18:39] <Cial> SkiingPenguins, some people are new try to bear with them
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#4350 [18:40] <Froboy101> I have no idea what to do there but heres a link to the place
#4351 [18:40] <Froboy101> http://pastebin.com/L9gkvPcE
#4352 [18:41] <SkiingPenguins> thats exactly what you're supposed to do :)
#4353 [18:41] <Froboy101> Yayz
#4354 [18:41] <SkiingPenguins> how much RAM does your computer have?
#4355 [18:41] <Froboy101> No idea, its a lap top but this happened with my other computer as well so I NEED HELP and my other computer its flippin huge
#4356 [18:42] <dracoxero> hey cial
#4357 [18:42] <Cial> hm?
#4358 [18:42] <dracoxero> sorry to bother you again
#4359 [18:42] <Cial> not a problem
#4360 [18:42] <dracoxero> just got a few more questions
#4361 [18:42] <Cial> ask away
#4362 [18:42] <SkiingPenguins> GreyVulpine or xales can either of you help Froboy101 ?
#4363 [18:42] <Cial> thats why i lurk here
#4364 [18:42] <xales> SkiingPenguins: what's the issue?
#4365 [18:42] <SkiingPenguins> he pasted it
#4366 [18:42] <SkiingPenguins> ^ look up
#4367 [18:43] <Cial> ew java errors
#4368 [18:43] <xales> !reinstall
#4369 [18:43] <xales> ^that
#4370 [18:43] <SkiingPenguins> i have no idea what's going on and im very bad at customer service
#4371 [18:43] <dracoxero> umm you gave me that link but it redirected me to an irc
#4372 [18:43] <Froboy101> Lemme re-install
#4373 [18:43] <Cial> dracoxero, it was supposed to
#4374 [18:44] <dracoxero> i was googling around and found that before but wasnt sure if that was the only way
#4375 [18:44] <Cial> thats an irc channel for the bukket server software
#4376 [18:44] <dracoxero> ahh alright, thought it was for download, anyways my other question was is there a way to spawn darkwood on my server?
#4377 [18:44] <SkiingPenguins> darkwood?
#4378 [18:44] <dracoxero> redwood
#4379 [18:45] <Cial> it would be the /give command and what ever the ID is for darkwood
#4380 [18:45] <SkiingPenguins> ive never heard of that
#4381 [18:45] <dracoxero> the id says its 17:1 but it doesnt seem to work
#4382 [18:45] <Cial> it would look like /give <name> <block ID> <number>
#4383 [18:45] <Cial> wrong ID
#4384 [18:45] <dracoxero> yea i can only get wood
#4385 [18:45] <dracoxero> same thing with colored wool
#4386 [18:46] <dracoxero> also is there a way to change spawn points?
#4387 [18:47] <Cial> custom server i think for that
#4388 [18:47] <xales> a mod, not custom servr
#4389 [18:47] <xales> or map editor
#4390 [18:47] <Cial> im trying to hunt the proper block ID for you xales he is asking for a server -_-
#4391 [18:47] <dracoxero> thank you
#4392 [18:48] <xales> Cial, I think that you can't spawn specific wood
#4393 [18:48] <xales> not sure though
#4394 [18:48] <Cial> not sure
#4395 [18:48] <Cial> but i shall check
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#4397 [18:49] <Cial> also dracoxero even if you cant this might be useful to you http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:DataValuesV110.png
#4398 [18:49] <Cial> blasted slow connection taking forever to load
#4399 [18:49] <Froboy101> :( i cant get to my appdata folder its not in my jusers
#4400 [18:49] <Froboy101> users
#4401 [18:49] <Cial> i know you can spawn the odd looking wood
#4402 [18:50] <xales> Froboy101: Open the start menu, in the search bar, type %appdata% and hit enter
#4403 [18:50] <Froboy101> YAY thank god
#4404 [18:50] <xales> Delete everything in the .minecraft folder except for the saves folder
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#4406 [18:51] <Froboy101> Thank you soooo much
#4407 [18:51] <Cial> yay hidden files and folders
#4408 [18:51] <dracoxero> just to recap, i wish to edit spawn points, and have players that join, not have the ability to edit the map without rights, so what would be my best option
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#4410 [18:52] <GV> dracoxero, look into custom modded server software.
#4411 [18:52] <GV> #bukkit is a good start
#4412 [18:52] <Cial> custom server dracoxero bukket might help ask in their IRC if you can do that with it
#4413 [18:52] <dracoxero> alright, any luck at the ID cial?
#4414 [18:53] <Froboy101> YES THANK YOU PEOPLE OF DA GODS
#4415 [18:53] <dracoxero> OH one last question, v.v sorry. is there anyway to edit the texture on a multiplayer map? if im the server host?
#4416 [18:54] <xales> dracoxero: No, the textures are client-side
#4417 [18:54] <GV> dracoxero, No. You can't make the clients have a specific texture
#4418 [18:54] <xales> there is not a way to force textures on the client
#4419 [18:54] <GV> Maybe down the line
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#4421 [18:54] <dracoxero> ok what about just for myself?
#4422 [18:54] <xales> just install a texturepack
#4423 [18:55] <Cial> dracoxero, i sent you a link to the pic with all the block IDs
#4424 [18:55] <Cial> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:DataValuesV110.png <--
#4425 [18:55] <GV> That's up to you, having a specific texture pack on your client
#4426 [18:55] <dracoxero> oh i didnt think it worked online
#4427 [18:55] <GV> It does
#4428 [18:55] <dracoxero> ahh ok ty
#4429 [18:55] <Cial> i hate dialup
#4430 [18:56] <Cial> ah damn xales was right dracoxero you cant spawn the diffrent wood types
#4431 [18:56] <xales> :P
#4432 [18:56] <dracoxero> and yea i have that but it doesnt have redwood
#4433 [18:56] <dracoxero> lol yup
#4434 [18:56] <dracoxero> thought so
#4435 [18:56] <dracoxero> sorry for the trouble
#4436 [18:56] <Cial> oh byte me xales lol
#4437 [18:56] <dracoxero> umm ok last question
#4438 [18:56] <Cial> dracoxero, no trouble thats why this channel is here
#4439 [18:56] <Cial> ask away
#4440 [18:56] <dracoxero> then ill get out of you hair
#4441 [18:57] <dracoxero> i have invEdit
#4442 [18:57] <Cial> too late i ripped that out around noon today
#4443 [18:57] <dracoxero> is there a benifit to having nbt edit?
#4444 [18:57] <dracoxero> i butchered the spelling sorry v.v
#4445 [18:57] <xales> invedit > nbtedit iirc
#4446 [18:57] <Cial> i think it can edit maps a little
#4447 [18:57] <Cial> but invedit is nicer
#4448 [18:57] <xales> use mcedit for maps
#4449 [18:57] <dracoxero> ahh okay so i should just got for bukket
#4450 [18:58] <Cial> oh whoops
#4451 [18:58] <Cial> most likely
#4452 [18:58] <dracoxero> mcedit does maps?
#4453 [18:58] <GV> Yes
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#4455 [18:58] <dracoxero> linky please?
#4456 [18:58] <Cial> i cant remember if it does or not
#4457 [18:58] <GV> !google mcedit
#4458 [18:58] <xales> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mcedit
#4459 [18:58] <GV> Bah
#4460 [18:58] <Cial> i think they wanted to though
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#4462 [18:59] <Postoffice> i have a issue with joining a server, getting took to long to log inn, but other people are joining without problemes :(
#4463 [18:59] <xales> Postoffice: Is it on every server, or just the one?
#4464 [18:59] <Postoffice> just the one
#4465 [18:59] <Cial> hm
#4466 [18:59] <dracoxero> lol i ment to download it but thanks
#4467 [18:59] <xales> Postoffice: see if you can connect to 'smp.shadow-craft.net'
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#4469 [19:00] <Shadow386> he logged in
#4470 [19:00] <Postoffice> yeah, i can join that one
#4471 [19:00] <Shadow386> saw in my channel
#4472 [19:00] <dracoxero> do i have to sign up to download mcedit?
#4473 [19:00] <xales> Postoffice: It sounds like an issue on that one server's end then
#4474 [19:00] <xales> dracoxero: I don't think so
#4475 [19:00] <dracoxero> that or im doing it wrong >.<
#4476 [19:00] <dracoxero> ok wrong site
#4477 [19:00] <dracoxero> thx
#4478 [19:00] <Postoffice> hm, so what to doo then? :P
#4479 [19:01] <Postoffice> the server is running properly.....
#4480 [19:02] <Postoffice> ill try to reinstall java
#4481 [19:03] <xales> wait, are you running the server?
#4482 [19:03] <Postoffice> no
#4483 [19:03] <xales> the problem isn't on your end
#4484 [19:03] <xales> you can't fix it
#4485 [19:03] <Postoffice> multicom something something
#4486 [19:03] <xales> the person who is running the server has to fix it
#4487 [19:04] <Postoffice> hm, but i'm the only one with the problem <.<
#4488 [19:05] <xales> wait 24 hours to make sure it isn't a caching problem, then contact them.
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#4490 [19:05] <Postoffice> kk ,thx for the help :)
#4491 [19:05] <xales> if you can log into other servers, then it isn't a problem you would be able to fix
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#4493 [19:07] <mib_4jivgo> hello
#4494 [19:09] <mib_4jivgo> umm, when I am digging in the downloaded version of minecraft beta for linux, it will, the minecraft game screen wil close
#4495 [19:09] <mib_4jivgo> any ideas?
#4496 [19:11] <xales> what are the specs of the computer?
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#4498 [19:12] <mib_4jivgo> it is a 60 GB laptop with java version 6u20, this started happening after the new updates
#4499 [19:12] <BadWolf> Hey, is it normal that the chunk you spawn on is unwritable for a server?
#4500 [19:12] <xales> BadWolf: "unwritable"?
#4501 [19:12] <Shadow386> BadWolf sounds like permission issues if anything
#4502 [19:13] <xales> mib_4jivgo: how much RAM, what CPU?
#4503 [19:13] <xales> Shadow386: He probably means spawn protection :P
#4504 [19:13] <Shadow386> ah
#4505 [19:13] <Cial> BadWolf, you have to be an admin/opperator to build on it
#4506 [19:13] <BadWolf> Yeah, you can't destroy or create blocks on it.
#4507 [19:13] <BadWolf> Oh, is that it?
#4508 [19:13] <Shadow386> yep
#4509 [19:13] <BadWolf> Just that one chunk, Cial?
#4510 [19:13] <Cial> yep
#4511 [19:13] <Cial> indeed
#4512 [19:13] <mib_4jivgo> Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.13GHz
#4513 [19:13] <BadWolf> Because there's some clay there....
#4514 [19:13] <Shadow386> Indeed good sir
#4515 [19:13] <BadWolf> Thanks.
#4516 [19:13] <Cial> set yourself to be an admin and you can do it
#4517 [19:13] <Cial> if it is your server
#4518 [19:13] <BadWolf> It is, and I guess I just never tried it after opping myself.
#4519 [19:14] <mib_4jivgo> 1000 MIB total memory, SYSinfo wont specify ram
#4520 [19:14] <BadWolf> Thanks a bunch.
#4521 [19:14] <BadWolf> Peace.
#4522 [19:14] <Cial> yea there will be something like admins.txt in the folder where the server is BadWolf
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#4524 [19:14] <Cial> hope he saw that
#4525 [19:14] <xales> mib_4jivgo: open a terminal, and run `free -m`
#4526 [19:15] <xales> the first number will be how many mb of ram you have
#4527 [19:15] <mib_4jivgo> 1000
#4528 [19:15] <xales> that is..really it?
#4529 [19:16] <xales> that laptop is seriously underpowered to run Minecraft =\
#4530 [19:16] <xales> I really doubt it could work
#4531 [19:16] <mib_4jivgo> it worked before
#4532 [19:16] <mib_4jivgo> the updates
#4533 [19:17] <mib_4jivgo> and my dell mini doesnt have this problem
#4534 [19:17] <xales> even so - that computer doesn't come close to meeting the requirements to run it
#4535 [19:17] <mib_4jivgo> oh
#4536 [19:17] <xales> Minecraft, by default, uses 1GB just for itself
#4537 [19:17] <xales> your computer doesn't even have 1GB of ram
#4538 [19:17] <xales> let alone CPU and GPU
#4539 [19:17] <mib_4jivgo> ok, that sucks
#4540 [19:17] <mib_4jivgo> huh?
#4541 [19:18] <mib_4jivgo> i keep getting hand me downs
#4542 [19:18] <mib_4jivgo> i hate it
#4543 [19:19] <mib_4jivgo> I also hate it when my family gets crap technology
#4544 [19:19] <dracoxero> ok back tried mcedit its cool but i would rather edit in game i think
#4545 [19:19] <xales> yeah...Minecraft doesn't need a top-of-the-line computer, but it does need something relatively modern
#4546 [19:19] <dracoxero> hey cial can i have that link one more time please?
#4547 [19:19] <xales> dracoxero: editing in the game is the same thing as playing the game
#4548 [19:19] <xales> >.>
#4549 [19:20] <Cial> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:DataValuesV110.png dracoxero
#4550 [19:20] <dracoxero> yea thats what i ment
#4551 [19:20] <dracoxero> yes im a nub cake sorry
#4552 [19:20] <dracoxero> just started playing with all this stuff
#4553 [19:21] <dracoxero> thanks cial
#4554 [19:21] <Cial> no problem
#4555 [19:21] <Cial> if you need me give a shout
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#4559 [19:27] <dracoxero> hmm the irc for #bukkit is empty...?
#4560 [19:27] <xales> no, it isn't
#4561 [19:27] <xales> /join #bukkit
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#4566 [19:33] <Rivitingone> Is there a current wide spread problem that would be causing me to be unable to connect to my server?
#4567 [19:33] <xales> Yes
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#4569 [19:34] <Rivitingone> Ok well at least I don't feel bad for not being able to fix it then :) What's up?
#4570 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> more aptly, what's down?
#4571 [19:34] <xales> minecraft.net is having issues again, as always
#4572 [19:34] <xales> some people are having trouble, some are not
#4573 [19:34] * DopeGhoti blames Canad, er, Amazon.
#4573 [19:35] <Rivitingone> They really need to sort that out...
#4574 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> They are; they're moving to Rackspace
#4575 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> in Mojang's words, they're getting it done properly, not quickly.
#4576 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> "Fast, cheap, good: select two."
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#4578 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> earlier, with Amazon, they went for fast and cheap.
#4579 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> result: not good.
#4580 [19:36] <Rivitingone> Whats with Amazon that they couldn't get things working? Seems like a company like that would know how to run a server.
#4581 [19:36] <mib_stu95a> Hi, I have a question. I keep trying to play MineCraft but it lags too much to play, eventually freezing. I updated java and my graphics drivers are up to date. any suggestions?
#4582 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> Amazon is a sales and distribution comapany. Apparently they are not a great hosting company.
#4583 [19:37] <xales> mib_stu95a: What are the specs of the computer?
#4584 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> mib_stu95a: Are you talking single- or multi-player?
#4585 [19:37] <mib_stu95a> single
#4586 [19:37] <xales> mib_stu95a: How much RAM, and what is the graphics card?
#4587 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> mib_stu95a: also, what OS?
#4588 [19:38] <mib_stu95a> 3.8Gb RAM, IntelR HD graphics card, and windows 7
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#4590 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> 64- or 32-bit? (same question regarding both OS and Java itslef)
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#4592 [19:40] <mib_stu95a> um the OS is 64, java is 32
#4593 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> try uninstalling the 32-bit java and installing the 64-bit version.
#4594 [19:41] <mib_stu95a> thanks, i'll get on that
#4595 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> Cool. I'll stay on this.
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#4601 [19:49] <Tazrunner> looking for a bit of help with a server
#4602 [19:50] <Tazrunner> we have a single player causing server lag
#4603 [19:50] <Tazrunner> that persists even after they log untill the server is reset
#4604 [19:51] <xales> do they have any client mods installed?
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#4607 [19:53] <nevercast> Kealper, Xales, Hey.
#4608 [19:53] <xales> ello
#4609 [19:54] <nevercast> How are you, xales?
#4610 [19:54] <nevercast> Hey fogWraith.
#4611 [19:54] <xales> I'm fine I guess
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#4613 [19:54] <nevercast> xales, that's good :)
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#4615 [19:55] <nevercast> xales, What you up to?
#4616 [19:55] <nevercast> GV, Where is Minecraft heading in the future and are there any tools that are going to be useful?
#4617 [19:56] <nevercast> GV, I've written an API for editing NBT files. But i've heard they might not even be in use in future.
#4618 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> ProTop: I don't think that the Grey One is Notch.
#4619 [19:56] <nevercast> Hey DopeGhoti.
#4620 [19:57] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, I don't think he's Notch either but he seemed to know a lot about MC last night.
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#4625 [19:58] <nevercast> grio-work, You're failing
#4626 [19:59] <GV> O.o
#4627 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> no, ey's playing with the revolving door.
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#4629 [19:59] <GV> I am not Notch. I don't claim to be Notch... but I'd be willing to accept Notch's paypal account.
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#4631 [19:59] <Joblev> Hey zales & dope
#4632 [19:59] <Joblev> *xales
#4633 [19:59] <xales> ello
#4634 [20:00] <GV> Just, if his credentials ever fell into my lap..
#4635 [20:00] <Joblev> I WAS going to get minecraft, but I got one of those reloadable cards, and it was US only -.-
#4636 [20:00] <GV> Ouch
#4637 [20:00] <Joblev> Ikr
#4638 [20:00] <GV> See if you can't call the customer service number on the back
#4639 [20:01] <Joblev> Nah, I don't mind
#4640 [20:01] <Joblev> I'm probably just gonna wait.
#4641 [20:01] <GV> You sure? It's just a simple phone call, they might be willing to help
#4642 [20:01] <Joblev> I hear it's going to snow over here tonight/tomorrow.... well that's what a lot of people guess
#4643 [20:02] <Joblev> Well....
#4644 [20:02] <Joblev> Idk
#4645 [20:02] <Joblev> I'll just wait :P
#4646 [20:02] <Joblev> DARN THE SMILEYS
#4647 [20:02] <GV> Give em a shot.
#4648 [20:02] <GV> It's 2 minutes of your life...
#4649 [20:02] <GV> for hours of enjoyment.
#4650 [20:02] <Joblev> True.............
#4651 [20:02] <Joblev> I'll see
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#4653 [20:03] <Joblev> |:P
#4654 [20:03] <Joblev> -.-
#4655 [20:03] <Joblev> :^P
#4656 [20:03] <Joblev> That's better
#4657 [20:03] <Joblev> brb
#4658 [20:04] <d3m0t3x> does anyone know why i keep getting connection timed out on every server i connect to?
#4659 [20:04] <GV> Server's probably down
#4660 [20:04] <xales> Try 'smp.shadow-craft.net'
#4661 [20:04] <xales> see if that one works
#4662 [20:04] <d3m0t3x> kk
#4663 [20:04] <nevercast> xales, is that your server :P
#4664 [20:04] <xales> nope
#4665 [20:04] <nevercast> Lol okay.
#4666 [20:04] <GV> Shadow386's
#4667 [20:04] <nevercast> you seem to suggest that one a lot.
#4668 [20:04] * GV points to userlist
#4668 [20:04] <Shadow386> <3
#4669 [20:05] <nevercast> O'Hey Shadow386 :)
#4670 [20:05] <d3m0t3x> got in
#4671 [20:05] <Joblev> Well gtg
#4672 [20:05] <Shadow386> I see
#4673 [20:05] <xales> d3m0t3x: Problem is with the servers you were connecting to them
#4674 [20:05] <d3m0t3x> im trying to connect to the server im running
#4675 [20:05] <d3m0t3x> on a vps, with debian
#4676 [20:05] <d3m0t3x> it has been working fine untill today
#4677 [20:07] <d3m0t3x> and does anyone know about some botnet that is gonna take down all minecraft servers tomorrow 9.30 gmt+2?
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#4679 [20:07] <Shadow386> link to that
#4680 [20:07] <d3m0t3x> no link
#4681 [20:08] <d3m0t3x> some guy came in our server
#4682 [20:08] <d3m0t3x> told us about it
#4683 [20:08] <nevercast> d3m0t3x, Really?
#4684 [20:08] <xales> tis called trolling
#4685 [20:08] <Shadow386> lol
#4686 [20:08] <d3m0t3x> we were like; "Lol, wtf, this guy is a lunatic"
#4687 [20:08] <nevercast> ...
#4688 [20:08] <nevercast> Yeah... 'lunatic'..
#4689 [20:08] <d3m0t3x> then he say: "Follow me, and ill show you"
#4690 [20:08] <Cial> sounds like crap
#4691 [20:08] * nevercast shifty eyes
#4691 [20:08] <Cial> ive heard nothing about it
#4692 [20:08] <d3m0t3x> he made a 20 x 20 hole to bedrock
#4693 [20:08] <d3m0t3x> with a wooden sword
#4694 [20:08] <d3m0t3x> in about 30 seconds
#4695 [20:08] <nevercast> LOL.
#4696 [20:09] <nevercast> Crazy Mofo
#4697 [20:09] <d3m0t3x> yup, and he said "i only got a part of the script they got"
#4698 [20:09] <xales> Fortunately
#4699 [20:09] <d3m0t3x> 2 sec, ill find his username in the logs
#4700 [20:09] <xales> minecraft hacks have nothing to do with botnets (aka DDoS)
#4701 [20:10] <nevercast> I know of someone that was planning an attack on all of minecraft..
#4702 [20:10] <d3m0t3x> "Ralphie"
#4703 [20:10] <d3m0t3x> he said he was going around to servers to warn them
#4704 [20:10] <nevercast> They got me to do some research for them but I stopped talking to them ages ago and I'm pretty sure the subject died.
#4705 [20:10] <Elvang> !ispaid
#4706 [20:11] <xales> d3m0t3x, if you were going to attack Minecraft servers with the intent of causing harm
#4707 [20:11] <xales> why would you warn them
#4708 [20:11] <xales> ._.
#4709 [20:11] <Elvang> For credit?
#4710 [20:11] <d3m0t3x> he got kicked out of the programming group
#4711 [20:11] <nevercast> He was probably a noob -.-
#4712 [20:11] <xales> Elvang, groups always take credit after
#4713 [20:11] <d3m0t3x> and he said in needed login messages, and with this as a login message to all player
#4714 [20:11] <d3m0t3x> "/bot -t 100 off command c:/no-KILL"
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#4716 [20:11] <xales> nevercast: bad trolls say things like that >.>
#4717 [20:11] <nevercast> Elvang, xales is correct.
#4718 [20:12] <kaboom> #risucraft
#4719 [20:12] <nevercast> xales, who says what nao?
#4720 [20:12] <xales> nevercast, "imma hax j00"
#4721 [20:12] <nevercast> LOL
#4722 [20:12] <xales> d3m0t3x: if he said something like "/bot whatever"
#4723 [20:12] <xales> he was trolling
#4724 [20:12] <d3m0t3x> he could make spheres and shit, with a click
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#4726 [20:12] <nevercast> xales, Yeah I've had my fair share of skiddie noobs.
#4727 [20:12] <xales> d3m0t3x, thats a known client-side mod
#4728 [20:12] <d3m0t3x> he didnt even have building rights on our server
#4729 [20:12] <nevercast> little trolls that are like, I ddoz Your SHIT!
#4730 [20:13] <GV> Yeah, client side mod that also works in SMP
#4731 [20:13] <Chasesan> what can displace lava but still allow fall through... I know ladders can, can anything else?
#4732 [20:13] <GV> No hacks.
#4733 [20:13] <d3m0t3x> wtf, seriously?
#4734 [20:13] <GV> Yes, seriously
#4735 [20:13] <d3m0t3x> what mod is that?
#4736 [20:13] <GV> Um, it's in my logs somewhere, xales'll probably pull it up faster
#4737 [20:13] <d3m0t3x> and dont say world edit :P
#4738 [20:13] <GV> It's not that
#4739 [20:13] <xales> I don't have anything to search by
#4740 [20:14] <xales> so I won't be able to easily find it
#4741 [20:14] <xales> just look on the forum
#4742 [20:14] <GV> Miclee said it in the other channel
#4743 [20:14] <GV> wanted puyodead to ban the thread
#4744 [20:14] <GV> or something
#4745 [20:14] <nevercast> d3m0t3x, Anyway. We appreciate your warning. We'll take it into consideration ( Probably do nothing ) and if something happens, the threat will be delt with ( in a lazy fashion ) and things should be back to normally shortly after ( but not before the forums are spammed by ragers )
#4746 [20:14] <GV> Didn't AG_Scott send a message to the guy that made it.
#4747 [20:14] <d3m0t3x> haha, true xD
#4748 [20:15] <GV> Said something about having to pay to get put on the mod's blacklist, so the server wasn't vulnerable to it?
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#4750 [20:15] <Draglems1> ohai.. :<
#4751 [20:15] <xales> hello
#4752 [20:15] <Draglems1> Whats up? :<
#4753 [20:15] <nevercast> nm, u :<
#4754 [20:15] <Draglems1> ..Sniff..
#4755 [20:15] <GV> Bah, you're going to make me RDP into my other computer to run a search on it, aren't you.
#4756 [20:16] <nevercast> What's wrong kip?
#4757 [20:16] <Draglems1> ..Cries on Nevercasts shoulder..
#4758 [20:16] <Draglems1> ..Sniffle
#4759 [20:16] * nevercast hugs Draglems1
#4759 [20:16] <nevercast> What's up?
#4760 [20:16] <Draglems1> I was digging right..
#4761 [20:16] <Draglems1> and then..then..I got a bunch of Iron ignots.. and then..
#4762 [20:16] <Draglems1> I kept digging.. and I landed in lava..
#4763 [20:16] <nevercast> xales, can you look after Draglems1. I've gotta go fix some computers.
#4764 [20:16] <xales> GV, I have no idea what I would search for
#4765 [20:16] <Draglems1> and Couldn't find water..
#4766 [20:16] <nevercast> Draglems1, You died?
#4767 [20:16] <Draglems1> ..Sniffle..Sniffle..Waaah..
#4768 [20:16] * nevercast gives Draglems1 a cookie
#4768 [20:16] <nevercast> I gotta go but be back shortly :)
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#4770 [20:17] <Draglems1> T-T~ I was *noms on cookie* Hunting for ignot for buckets.. ..Cry
#4771 [20:17] <nevercast> Draglems1, It's happened to me too
#4772 [20:17] <Draglems1> *Cry* :<
#4773 [20:18] <Draglems1> I'm staying on peaceful mode :/
#4774 [20:18] <Draglems1> I thought i could atleast last one night..
#4775 [20:19] <Draglems1> Wish i could find a dungeon.
#4776 [20:20] <xales> Draglems1: Please don't come in here just to whine, this is a help channel. If you need help with something, just ask. Otherwise, please don't keep sending useless messages here
#4777 [20:20] <Arkose> dungeons are everywhere, but statistically speaking they are usually deeper down
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#4779 [20:20] <Sniperdog> hi, does this channel give tech support help?
#4780 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> Yes it does
#4781 [20:21] <Draglems1> xales: You're allowed to go off topic, Please do not interupt when I was off-topic earlier.
#4782 [20:21] <Draglems1> >_<.
#4783 [20:21] <Sniperdog> sweet
#4784 [20:21] <Draglems1> Not trying to sound rude.
#4785 [20:21] * GV pokes xales
#4785 [20:21] <GV> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=152051
#4786 [20:21] <GV> That was it
#4787 [20:21] <GV> and uh, who was asking..
#4788 [20:21] <xales> yeah, I saw in the other channel
#4789 [20:21] <Draglems1> THIS is the channel.
#4790 [20:21] <xales> Draglems1: Off topic is one thing, pointless chat is another
#4791 [20:21] <GV> d3m0t3x - http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=152051
#4792 [20:22] <Sniperdog> Ok I'm trying to help my roomate with an issue he has consistantly
#4793 [20:22] <Draglems1> It isn't pointless.
#4794 [20:22] <Draglems1> Pointless would be putting non-understanding messages.
#4795 [20:22] <Draglems1> or etc.
#4796 [20:22] <xales> You aren't talking to anyone in specific, just sending messages for the sake of talking. Don't argue with me about it.
#4797 [20:22] <Draglems1> Don't tell me not to talk like that then.
#4798 [20:22] <Draglems1> JS.
#4799 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Draglems1: Arguing with people wearing a magic @ is unwise.
#4800 [20:23] <d3m0t3x> GV - Thanks alot!
#4801 [20:23] <Draglems1> What is a magic @?
#4802 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> something that, among others, xales has.
#4803 [20:24] <Draglems1> Er?
#4804 [20:24] <Cial> operator powa
#4805 [20:24] <GV> xales is a channel operator, means he has a @. Officially, he's a moderator in this channel.
#4806 [20:24] <Draglems1> THANK you?
#4807 [20:24] <Draglems1> And I don't think we're arguing.
#4808 [20:24] <Draglems1> We're discussing.
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#4810 [20:25] <Draglems1> To plant sapplings: Do you need to use a hoe?
#4811 [20:26] <Elvang> No
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#4813 [20:26] <xales> Grey
#4814 [20:26] <xales> moar clones
#4815 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Gah!
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#4817 [20:27] <Draglems1> Could anyone send me ta save file they have? a good one?
#4818 [20:27] <Draglems1> With buckets? ..Giggle
#4819 [20:27] <Elvang> I've got six buckets, but I'm using the ControllerBlocks mod
#4820 [20:28] <Elvang> Also, slight magma oops.
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#4822 [20:28] <Draglems1> God, i swear to god..If Minecraft does that again, I'ma cry.
#4823 [20:28] <Draglems1> It keeps closing for no reason.
#4824 [20:28] <Gry> Bleh, I hate verizon's DSL
#4825 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> s/'s DSL// # FTFY
#4826 [20:29] <Arkose> Draglems1: reinstall Java or something maybe?
#4827 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> stop crying over your computer maybe? I imagine the saltwater's not that good for the circuitry.
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#4830 [20:31] <Draglems1> No, I crash and then it closes. Rare ,but first time i lost my 10mb save xD.
#4831 [20:31] <Sniperdog> My roomate is playing minecraft on a macbook pro with vista on it. Whenever he plays he can connect and play online just fine but after 5 - 15 minutes the minecraft window goes straight black all of a sudden and he has to close and reconnect. Anyone know how to fix this issue?
#4832 [20:31] <Draglems1> What in the world?
#4833 [20:31] <Draglems1> Pumpkins?!
#4834 [20:31] <Draglems1> Woohoo!!
#4835 [20:31] <Elvang> Is this ever going to go away? I removed the sole source block after it ballooned like that 3 ingame days ago :\ http://i53.tinypic.com/2rrwd2d.png
#4836 [20:31] <Arkose> Draglems1: #MineCraftHelp != Twitter
#4837 [20:31] <Draglems1> Now what do i do with pumpkins.. Do i leave them or do i collect..
#4838 [20:32] <xales> Try turning down the graphics settings, but I'd imagine its a problem with Vista not working properly with the Macbook hardware, Sniperdog
#4839 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> Sniperdog: Does he have the same problem in McOS?
#4840 [20:32] <Arkose> Elvang: as such no, lava is a bit messed up. You'll need to fill it in or douse it with water or something.
#4841 [20:32] <Elvang> x(
#4842 [20:33] <Necrid> I bought the game and downloaded the minecraft.exe on the site then i open it and get to the minecraft launcher. I enter my nickname/password and then it close. someone can help me?
#4843 [20:34] <Draglems1> Do i collect the pumpkins?
#4844 [20:34] <Draglems1> or are they something you just leave there?
#4845 [20:34] <xales> Necrid: Using Windows, I assume?
#4846 [20:34] <Necrid> yes
#4847 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> Draglems1: that's up to you, isn't it?
#4848 [20:34] <Draglems1> Dunno there use though
#4849 [20:34] <xales> Necrid: Vista/7 or XP?
#4850 [20:34] <Necrid> XP
#4851 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> Deoration, lighting, or masks.
#4852 [20:34] <Draglems1> Thanks
#4853 [20:34] <Draglems1> *collect, collect, collect*
#4854 [20:34] <Draglems1> Scrub.
#4855 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> Draglems1: seriously, #MineCraftHelp does not need a play-by-play of your game.
#4856 [20:35] <Draglems1> Cool.
#4857 [20:35] <xales> Necrid: Open start -> run -> type 'dxdiag' -> run -> Yes to the 'WHQL' stuff -> wait -> click 'Save log' when it is available -> save to desktop -> open file on desktop -> copy contents to http://pastebin.com/ -> click submit -> paste here the link it sends you to
#4858 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> xales: you should make those directions a permapastebin and just send people there (:
#4859 [20:36] <Necrid> ok ill go try that tx :)
#4860 [20:36] <xales> Or you should finish your FAQbot
#4861 [20:36] <xales> silly fish
#4862 [20:36] <xales> :)
#4863 [20:36] <Elvang> DopeGhoti: You can use pumpkins as masks? Does this mean my guy would emit light?
#4864 [20:36] <Sniperdog> DopeGhoti: I'm not sure, he says he hasn't tried it through the macOS.
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#4866 [20:36] <Draglems1> FTW! Coal :D.
#4867 [20:37] <Arkose> Elvang: no, once a pumpkin has been turned into a jack-o-lantern you can't wear it
#4868 [20:37] <Arkose> you can't convert them back
#4869 [20:37] <Elvang> Aw :(
#4870 [20:37] <Arkose> so no movable light source for you D:
#4871 [20:37] <xales> Draglems1: You've already been asked once, please do not continue. This is a help channel
#4872 [20:37] <Draglems1> I was on the same discussion yesterday though C:.
#4873 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> xales: I am!
#4874 [20:38] <xales> DopeGhoti: :)
#4875 [20:38] <xales> Draglems1: Irrelevant. Read the rules in the topic if you need any further clarification of this.
#4876 [20:38] <GV> Pfft, work faster!
#4877 [20:38] <xales> ^
#4878 [20:38] * GV gets out the whip
#4878 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> But.. New YDKJ!
#4879 [20:39] <Draglems1> Cool
#4880 [20:39] <xales> Draglems1: Also, that attitude will not be tolerated by any of us.
#4881 [20:39] <Draglems1> I'm just saying cool. C:
#4882 [20:39] <xales> ._.
#4883 [20:39] <Draglems1> Sorry If i sound rude.
#4884 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> Don't be sorry; be compliant.
#4885 [20:40] <Necrid> http://pastebin.com/EX86rSme
#4886 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> :)
#4887 [20:40] <xales> Necrid: Well, I see the problem
#4888 [20:40] <xales> That computer doesn't come anywhere close enough to the specs needed to run Minecraft =/
#4889 [20:40] <Necrid> i tought so >.>
#4890 [20:40] <Necrid> damn
#4891 [20:40] <Draglems1> Do chickens normally get 1hited?
#4892 [20:41] <Arkose> depending on the weapon, yes
#4893 [20:41] <Draglems1> because I just hit it with a stone pick-axe, I didn't know that they could be hit by a pickaxe.
#4894 [20:41] <Necrid> well anyway when ill get to vhance to get a new PC ill still be able to play?
#4895 [20:41] <Arkose> any tool can hurt a mob, but only sword-type ones work properly
#4896 [20:41] <GV> Yes Necrid
#4897 [20:42] <Arkose> also using the wrong sort of tool for a job does double damage to its durability.
#4898 [20:42] <Draglems1> Woohoo, iron ores :)
#4899 [20:42] <Necrid> okay well ty all for the help :P
#4900 [20:42] * ChanServ kicked Draglems1 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: KICK by DopeGhoti (Seriously, knock it off.))
#4901 [20:42] <Necrid> c ya
#4902 [20:42] <Arkose> byes :)
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#4904 [20:42] <Arkose> a courteous Mibbit user? I say...
#4905 [20:42] <Draglems1> Its a shame because I was just about to ask a question about them. C:
#4906 [20:43] <Draglems1> Do they have a rare rating? C:.
#4907 [20:43] <Arkose> ...rating? Like, like in an MMO or something?
#4908 [20:43] <Draglems1> No, are they rare and do they have a rating? on there rareness? or does that not matter?
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#4910 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> Iron is iron is iron.
#4911 [20:44] <Arkose> all iron ore blocks are identical, if that's what you're meaning
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#4913 [20:44] <Draglems1> Yeah, sorry. I mean't iron ore.
#4914 [20:44] <Sniperdog> Anyone else got insight on the blackscreen crash issue?
#4915 [20:44] <Sniperdog> it seems a lot of people have it but I can't find a solution
#4916 [20:44] <xales> Sniperdog: Does he get the same crash under OS X?
#4917 [20:44] <lemon-rev> video drivers / java sniperdog
#4918 [20:44] <xales> And has he tried turning down view distance and the graphics to 'fast'?
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#4922 [20:45] <Sniperdog> bear in mind he can play for a bit, but the game goes black after 5 minutes or so
#4923 [20:45] <Draglems1> Mhm. found alot of Iron ore, Can you often find them in groups?
#4924 [20:45] <xales> Sniperdog: Did he try those things?
#4925 [20:45] <Sniperdog> but I'll have him try drivers and updating java
#4926 [20:46] <Sniperdog> he says he did try turning down the graphics
#4927 [20:46] <mib_o4ezpx> Hello, When ever me or any of my friends host a minecraft server we are able to connect to our own but for some reason no one els is able to. What do you think that could be, also only one of our friends is able to have people connect to it?
#4928 [20:46] <Sniperdog> no luck
#4929 [20:46] <xales> Draglems1: Please don't ask questions you can use the wiki to answer, it's just a waste of our time so you can be lazy
#4930 [20:46] <xales> mib_o4ezpx: Did you port forward?
#4931 [20:46] <Sniperdog> no
#4932 [20:46] <Sniperdog> oh sorry
#4933 [20:46] <lemon-rev> mib what ip address you trying to use
#4934 [20:47] <lemon-rev> mib portforwarding
#4935 [20:47] <mib_o4ezpx> I just use my IP Adress. IDK what portforwarding is exactly.
#4936 [20:47] <Draglems1> Does using a Pumpkin as a mask have any effect on mobs? Oh, but its a help channel, is it not?
#4937 [20:48] <Arkose> pumpkin masks are purely for looks. No game purpose as yet.
#4938 [20:48] <Draglems1> Ah.
#4939 [20:48] <GV> Unless you reskin it
#4940 [20:48] <lemon-rev> why would wareing a mask have an effect on an enemy lol
#4941 [20:48] <Draglems1> ^Confuse it?
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#4943 [20:48] <Draglems1> Think its one of them? due to its scariness? stun them? I don't know.
#4944 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: if notch implements the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Trall, that would be pertinent. (:
#4945 [20:48] <lemon-rev> you would have hoped lol, i havent tryed it but i dont belive it would
#4946 [20:49] <relsqui> Draglems1: it's a help channel with limited resources and staffed by people donating their time; that's why it's polite to check the wiki first
#4947 [20:49] <mib_o4ezpx> What is port forwarding
#4948 [20:49] <lemon-rev> hm
#4949 [20:49] <relsqui> it shows respect for people who are giving away help for free
#4950 [20:49] <relsqui> and consideration
#4951 [20:49] <Draglems1> You don't have to give away help though.
#4952 [20:49] <lemon-rev> dopeghoti whats this beast of trall
#4953 [20:49] <GV> Then why are we here?
#4954 [20:49] <xales> mib_o4ezpx: You need to do that - http://portforward.com/ has a guide - just ignore their ads
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#4956 [20:50] <Draglems1> I didn't say you shouldn't or STOP giving help, I simply said you don't have to.
#4957 [20:50] <mib_o4ezpx> Thank you, PS you guys are the best. Helped me out last night really well.
#4958 [20:50] <Draglems1> because You have a choice, no?
#4959 [20:50] <GV> I was helped here, I'm simply giving back, as a sign of respect
#4960 [20:50] <relsqui> Draglems1: right, and they're suggesting they might stop helping you if you don't start also helping yourself :P
#4961 [20:50] <xales> Draglems1: I warned you. Bye!
#4962 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: it's a beast that's terrifyingly hostile, yet thankfully dumb. It thinks that if you can't see it, it can't see you, and that's One More Reason to always have your towel handy.
#4963 [20:50] * ChanServ kicked Draglems1 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: AKICK by xales (Given your earlier behavior, and your current attitude, you are now banned. Enjoy))
#4964 [20:51] <relsqui> heh
#4965 [20:51] <relsqui> what was the earlier behavior?
#4966 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: look up
#4967 [20:51] <lemon-rev> hahahhahahahaha
#4968 [20:51] <relsqui> heh speaking of lazy questions <_<
#4969 [20:51] <xales> He got autokicked for flooding at least twice
#4970 [20:51] <relsqui> oh :P
#4971 [20:51] <GV> Man, xales, you realize you've got the most bans set in here compared to the others.
#4972 [20:52] <xales> I'm just the fastest on the /kb button ._.
#4973 [20:52] <GV> Pfft
#4974 [20:52] <relsqui> hehe
#4975 [20:52] <lemon-rev> dopeghoti ok i understand your silly point but has notch done such an insane act or is it just that if you where to ware a pumkin as a mask it would simply do nothing for your enemys since they see you as a enemy anyways
#4976 [20:52] <GV> We gotta clean up that banlist someday
#4977 [20:52] <GV> Some of those are OLD
#4978 [20:52] <xales> It'll probably poof when Esper does that thing
#4979 [20:52] * DopeGhoti removes all bans and replaces with *!*@*. FTFY
#4979 [20:52] * xales o/ DopeGhoti
#4979 [20:53] <BR> Hello relsqui
#4980 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> \o
#4981 [20:53] <GV> *!*@*axxim* ?
#4982 [20:53] <relsqui> hullo!
#4983 [20:53] * BR thinks he knows you from elsewhere
#4983 [20:53] <BR> :)
#4984 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> anywho, time t'go home (:
#4985 [20:53] <GV> Laters Dope
#4986 [20:54] <GV> xales, you mind clearing the bans I have set in here? couple of them were just bot spams.
#4987 [20:54] <relsqui> I just had a very confusing five minutes in which I could not log into or even find the account info for my main domain o_O
#4988 [20:55] * relsqui is better now
#4988 [20:55] <BR> hmm.. where would I ask about mods? hMod server mod especially. #hey0 is idle, wondering if theres a general mod help channel
#4989 [20:55] <GV> For hmod, there's really not a place....
#4990 [20:55] <GV> Try the forum post where you got it
#4991 [20:55] <BR> alright
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#4995 [21:01] <Elvang> Bedrock can rise up to 2z-levels above the solid bedrock bottom right?
#4996 [21:01] <GV> mmhmm
#4997 [21:02] <lemon-rev> elvang as far as i know bedrock 3 main layers first two are random and the third one is solid bedrock
#4998 [21:03] <GV> As far as I know, there isn't a "solid" bedrock level
#4999 [21:03] <Elvang> Alright
#5000 [21:03] <Arkose> you can sometimes find holes through to nothingness :)
#5001 [21:03] <GV> It's still swiss cheese
#5002 [21:03] <lemon-rev> hm
#5003 [21:03] <Arkose> unfortunately it's not possible to build a secret base in the nothingness :D
#5004 [21:03] <lemon-rev> ok arkose i havent come across any but np
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#5008 [21:17] <noobO> wasup?
#5009 [21:18] <relsqui> oh man. can it--can it be? I think I don't have anything urgent to do before tomorrow afternoon
#5010 [21:18] * relsqui cracks open the minecrafts
#5010 [21:19] <xales> GV sure, I'll do it in a minute
#5011 [21:20] <xales> GV, all of them? >.>
#5012 [21:22] <meiskam> so i've got 2 problems .. when I close minecraft, the JRE crashes, with "Problematic frame: OpenAL32.dll"
#5013 [21:22] <meiskam> also, about 15 seconds after joining any smp server, i get an "end of stream"
#5014 [21:22] <meiskam> during which time i can walk around, but not talk
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#5016 [21:23] <xales> meiskam, the second is a known issue, there is a fix, but its a bit of effort
#5017 [21:23] <meiskam> i've just recently installed winxp sp3, and haven't gotten it to work since
#5018 [21:23] <xales> err, the first one is, the one about openal
#5019 [21:23] <relsqui> I have 99 problems but the JRE ain't one
#5020 [21:24] <xales> as far as the end of stream stuff..Kealper might have an idea about that
#5021 [21:24] <meiskam> xales, i lowered the hardware audio acceleration 1 notch, and it hasn't crashed since
#5022 [21:24] <GV> yeah xales
#5023 [21:24] <xales> :o
#5024 [21:24] <meiskam> but that might not be the correct fix :P
#5025 [21:24] <GV> just mine
#5026 [21:24] <Arkose> if it works it works. :)
#5027 [21:24] <xales> the fix we usually had people do is update the openal that minecraft was loading
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#5029 [21:25] <Kealper> end of stream is usually server suck-nuttage
#5030 [21:26] <meiskam> i've tried 3 different servers, and a localhost server
#5031 [21:26] <Kealper> all get end of stream?
#5032 [21:26] <meiskam> yep
#5033 [21:26] <meiskam> after i join, i can't talk, and then get an end of stream
#5034 [21:26] <Kealper> that's weird....randomly? or what?
#5035 [21:26] <meiskam> under 20 seconds
#5036 [21:26] <Kealper> O.o who were those? lol
#5037 [21:27] <Kealper> hmm...can you do anything before you get that end of stream?
#5038 [21:27] <xales> Kealper, GV asked me to
#5039 [21:27] <Kealper> oh, must have been randoms that got banned like a month ago and were forgot about or something then lol
#5040 [21:27] <meiskam> sometimes i can walk around .. most of the time i just fall into the void
#5041 [21:28] <Kealper> hmm...craps and grins, try connecting to mc.kealper.com
#5042 [21:29] <meiskam> i'm currently falling into void
#5043 [21:29] <meiskam> and can't talk
#5044 [21:29] <meiskam> end of stream
#5045 [21:29] <Kealper> hmm.....
#5046 [21:29] <Kealper> what network adapter are you using?
#5047 [21:29] * xales whispers, "bufffeerrrsss"
#5047 [21:30] <meiskam> it's built into my mobo
#5048 [21:30] <Kealper> yeah yeah i know xales, i was getting to that lol
#5049 [21:30] <Kealper> ok then
#5050 [21:30] <Kealper> what os?
#5051 [21:30] <meiskam> winxp sp3
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#5053 [21:30] <meiskam> i was using win7 a few days ago, and didnt' have this problem
#5054 [21:30] <Kealper> hold down the windows key and press the Pause key
#5055 [21:30] <meiskam> (on the same hardware)
#5056 [21:31] <Kealper> yeah, probably driver's buffers are retarded
#5057 [21:31] <meiskam> ok, system properties
#5058 [21:31] <Kealper> got that system properties window open?
#5059 [21:31] <Kealper> ok, i'm literally just guessing on this one since i have not used xp in a while so...
#5060 [21:32] <Kealper> is there an Advanced tab?
#5061 [21:32] <meiskam> yep
#5062 [21:32] <Kealper> click that, there should be a button called Device Manager
#5063 [21:32] <Kealper> if yes, click it
#5064 [21:32] <meiskam> want me to just open the device manager?
#5065 [21:32] <meiskam> it's not on this window
#5066 [21:32] <Kealper> if you know how, yes lol
#5067 [21:33] <Kealper> i really gotta go make an xp VM or something lol
#5068 [21:33] <meiskam> ok it's open
#5069 [21:33] <Kealper> right then, look for Network adapters and drop that down
#5070 [21:33] <Kealper> do you see your network adapter in that list?
#5071 [21:33] <meiskam> NVIDIA nForce Network Controller
#5072 [21:33] <Kealper> that's probably it
#5073 [21:34] <Kealper> double click it
#5074 [21:34] <Kealper> it should open it's properties
#5075 [21:34] <meiskam> yup
#5076 [21:34] <Kealper> click the Advanced tab, and look in the "Property:" list for something called Recieve Buffers and Transmit Buffers
#5077 [21:34] <Kealper> see anything like that in there?
#5078 [21:35] <meiskam> i'm at the property list, but dont see anything about buffers
#5079 [21:35] <meiskam> "Flow Control"?
#5080 [21:35] <Kealper> darn....
#5081 [21:35] <Kealper> flow control is probably not it, that is probably something that is either enabled or disabled
#5082 [21:35] <meiskam> yep
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#5084 [21:36] <Kealper> ok then, was there any other things in that Network adapters drop-down?
#5085 [21:36] <meiskam> yes, many, but this is the correct one :P
#5086 [21:36] <Kealper> everything else was stuff like microsoft loopback adapter and such? (nothing saying realtek or anything like that)
#5087 [21:37] <meiskam> 2 bluetooth, 2 for vmware, and 2 "1394 network adapters"
#5088 [21:37] <Kealper> looks like the xp driver for that NIC does not support changing the buffer sizes then :<
#5089 [21:38] <Kealper> do you have the latest nvidia drivers? that comes with the nforce stuff iirc
#5090 [21:39] <meiskam> yes, it's from 2006, but it's the latest
#5091 [21:40] <Arkose> did you have the same problem on earlier drivers, e.g. the generic compatibility one?
#5092 [21:40] <Kealper> might have to switch back to 7 then :/
#5093 [21:41] <meiskam> the generic one didn't automatically load
#5094 [21:41] <Arkose> ah :/
#5095 [21:41] <meiskam> i had to install the nforce drivers to get internet
#5096 [21:41] <meiskam> want me to put in a wireless card, and try that?
#5097 [21:42] <Kealper> that might work, the drivers for that might not have borked buffer sizes
#5098 [21:42] <Arkose> a wired ethernet card is also an option
#5099 [21:43] <Kealper> well, probably easier if he already has a wireless card laying around lol
#5100 [21:43] <Arkose> well, just saying that being wireless doesn't matter, it's the brand change that is going to help. :)
#5101 [21:45] <meiskam> ok -- restarting to put this in (i did find a wired card sitting about)
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#5105 [21:49] <mib_5oore7> hi i am having lag problems, i have updated java, my graphic drivers, i am running windows 7 and have 4GB of RAM, and this link is my pingtest: [URL=http://www.pingtest.net][IMG]http://www.pingtest.net/result/34263787.png[/IMG][/URL]
#5106 [21:50] <mib_5oore7> opps wrong link, but can anyone help?
#5107 [21:50] <mib_5oore7> http://www.pingtest.net/result/34263787.png
#5108 [21:50] <lemon-rev> mib this is on your own server correct
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#5110 [21:50] <mib_5oore7> yeah, im just trying to play single player
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#5112 [21:50] <Kealper> single player? why would ping matter o.o
#5113 [21:51] <mib_5oore7> no clue, im just trying to give info.
#5114 [21:51] <lemon-rev> mib when do you get lag as soon as you start the game
#5115 [21:51] <lemon-rev> lol
#5116 [21:51] <lemon-rev> ?
#5117 [21:51] <mib_5oore7> another thing is my preformance graph in the debug screen is going off the charts
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#5119 [21:51] <mib_5oore7> yeah i lag immmeadiatly
#5120 [21:52] <lemon-rev> thats cause the world is still trying to build it self
#5121 [21:52] <xales> mib_5oore7: What are the specs of your computer? CPU, RAM, graphics card?
#5122 [21:52] <mib_5oore7> yeah and even after that though it continues at about 8 to 10 frames
#5123 [21:52] <xENO_> Ok, what's an illegal stance error?
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#5125 [21:53] <nevercast> Hey sexies
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#5127 [21:53] * nevercast licks AuBot
#5127 [21:53] <nevercast> :D
#5128 [21:53] <nevercast> Did you mean: Grey
#5129 [21:53] <mib_5oore7> graphics card is a intelR hd, ram is 4gb, intel i3
#5130 [21:53] <Gry> "grey" IS TAKEN
#5131 [21:53] <mib_5oore7> and no i do not
#5132 [21:53] <xales> xENO_: When do you see it?
#5133 [21:54] <lemon-rev> mib not sure dude but if your running java latest and whatnot then check the ram useage when you run the game
#5134 [21:54] <NevermoreDCE> anyone know why I can connect no problem to my local server, but another server on the local network is timing out?
#5135 [21:54] <xales> mib_5oore7: Specifically, what card? Does it just say "intel hd"?
#5136 [21:54] <xENO_> Well, _I_ don't, but when certain people connect to my server, they get it and the server dies.
#5137 [21:54] <nevercast> mib_5oore7, Sounds like a decent computer. What's your issue?
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#5139 [21:54] <xENO_> It doens't happen right away, it just happens at random.
#5140 [21:54] <lemon-rev> mib whats an intelr hd is that like got 0 meg gpu ?
#5141 [21:54] <xales> xENO_: Have them try connecting with a vanilla client :P
#5142 [21:54] <nevercast> !vanilla
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#5144 [21:54] <xENO_> mib_5oore7: The intel HD on an I3 is going to be slow. I have that on my laptop, it works.
#5145 [21:55] <nevercast> worth a try.
#5146 [21:55] <xENO_> As far as I know, they are using a vanilla client.
#5147 [21:55] <Flamester> Query: If I have a block of glass bettween wood and lava will the wood still burn?
#5148 [21:55] <mib_5oore7> Intel(R) HD Graphics
#5149 [21:55] <nevercast> Flamester, no
#5150 [21:55] <nevercast> Flamester, as far as I know
#5151 [21:55] <lemon-rev> hm
#5152 [21:55] <xales> Flamester: it's possible, but less likely
#5153 [21:55] <lemon-rev> looking it up
#5154 [21:55] <nevercast> Flamester, Fire jumps but Lava doesn't
#5155 [21:55] <xales> mib_5oore7: That's the i3 integrated then, which doesn't really work that well (not enough/any dedicated vram)
#5156 [21:55] <nevercast> Flamester, If a block of wood ignites near the glass and wood, the wood might ignite
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#5158 [21:56] <GreyVulpine__> dubya tee eff
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#5160 [21:56] <nevercast> GreyVulpine__, I think you dun goofed
#5161 [21:56] <meiskam> lol, "SocketException: Connection reset"
#5162 [21:56] <meiskam> at least it's a different error
#5163 [21:57] <GV> I swear this verizon DSL is craptacular... or xchat is messing with me
#5164 [21:57] <nevercast> Connection Reset == Often means Physical connection break
#5165 [21:57] <Kealper> connection reset just means the connection between you and me sucked
#5166 [21:57] <lemon-rev> mib
#5167 [21:57] <mib_5oore7> so I'm pretty much having to live with the 10fps
#5168 [21:57] <nevercast> GV, More likely verizon
#5169 [21:57] <Kealper> damnit ninja'd
#5170 [21:57] <mib_5oore7> ?
#5171 [21:57] <nevercast> mib_5oore7, You get 10fps?
#5172 [21:57] <nevercast> You lucky bastard
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#5174 [21:57] <mib_5oore7> lucky? my friends all have over 40fps
#5175 [21:57] <xales> mib_5oore7: Pretty much =/
#5176 [21:57] <lemon-rev> im trying to find something good about your card and it shows all the latest stuff but doent shwo anything about like gpu ram onboard the video card im like wtf if it doesnt have one and what other specs does it have
#5177 [21:58] <nevercast> mib_5oore7, Your friends don't use a laptop?
#5178 [21:58] <lemon-rev> do you have a page for that card
#5179 [21:58] <ItsCriminal> i have mostly 60-80
#5180 [21:58] * xales has 300+ >.>
#5180 [21:58] <ItsCriminal> :)
#5181 [21:58] <nevercast> lol.
#5182 [21:58] <nevercast> Wow
#5183 [21:58] <nevercast> Okay one sec
#5184 [21:58] <nevercast> starting minecraft
#5185 [21:58] <mib_5oore7> they do
#5186 [21:58] <nevercast> I get an Average of 8fps
#5187 [21:58] <xales> lol
#5188 [21:59] <xENO_> xales: That doesn't answer my question as to what's causing it.
#5189 [21:59] <Kealper> xales 300 at max settings?
#5190 [21:59] <nevercast> Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
#5191 [21:59] <xales> I get better than that on my 3+ year old macbook
#5192 [21:59] <xales> Kealper, yup
#5193 [21:59] <Kealper> MEH
#5194 [21:59] <Kealper> lol
#5195 [21:59] <Kealper> i only get about 100 :/
#5196 [21:59] <xales> Arch Linux FTW! :D
#5197 [21:59] <Shadow386> or get a new computer all together
#5198 [21:59] <xENO_> It's kind of like saying "update your video driver" or "make sure you have the game installed properly"
#5199 [21:59] <xales> I literally have nothing else running on the entire computer
#5200 [21:59] <Shadow386> since you cant upgrade macs
#5201 [21:59] <Nadnerb> okay, is there anyone in here who has modded the client and can say exactly what causes the client to display that error message.
#5202 [21:59] <Shadow386> get linux or Windows
#5203 [21:59] <Kealper> oh, yeah that is probably a lot of it, the VM probably blazes under arch
#5204 [21:59] <xales> about 100MB RAM in use without Minecraft open
#5205 [21:59] <ItsCriminal> woah
#5206 [21:59] <Kealper> windoze -.-
#5207 [21:59] <Nadnerb> as in, what the client has to do wrong, technically speaking, to trigger that error
#5208 [21:59] <GV> Nadnerb - What error?
#5209 [21:59] <xales> Kealper, get Arch :o
#5210 [21:59] <Nadnerb> "Illegal Stance"
#5211 [22:00] <Kealper> xales: i is too nub to install it on my main :/
#5212 [22:00] <mib_5oore7> thanks guys, i'll take the ten then
#5213 [22:00] <xales> Kealper, /me can help
#5214 [22:00] <nevercast> I get 4-6fps on Fancy with Far rendering
#5215 [22:00] <Kealper> /me wonders if xales can help without borking my main windows install
#5216 [22:00] <nevercast> But I'm content with that, I can play Call Of Duty at that detail
#5217 [22:00] <nevercast> *FPS
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#5219 [22:00] <xales> The only thing that could break is easily fixed
#5220 [22:00] <xales> either manually, or automatically with a win7 install disk (repair mode or whatever)
#5221 [22:00] <Kealper> mbr? lol
#5222 [22:01] <nevercast> I love to mbr
#5223 [22:01] * xales has had to manually reinstall XP's bootloader to MBR
#5223 [22:01] <Kealper> oh yea, forgot about win 7's epic repair mode on it's iso
#5224 [22:01] <meiskam> hah, it worked for a little while
#5225 [22:01] <nevercast> xales, Install grub loader :)
#5226 [22:01] <xales> nevercast: Grub refused to boot windows
#5227 [22:01] <nevercast> xales, really?
#5228 [22:01] <xales> had to reinstall the XP one
#5229 [22:01] <xales> yeah
#5230 [22:01] <nevercast> xales, My Windows 7 boots from Grub..
#5231 [22:01] <nevercast> I'm sure it doesn't mind XP either
#5232 [22:01] <xales> I got XP to boot from Grub, I just fucked up the install somehow
#5233 [22:02] <xales> that specific one
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#5235 [22:02] <nevercast> ahh okay
#5236 [22:02] <nevercast> Anyway I gtg
#5237 [22:02] <nevercast> Will stay idle
#5238 [22:02] <nevercast> pz
#5239 [22:02] <meiskam> that's interesting, i got a "connection reset", then all network connections stopped
#5240 [22:02] <Kealper> oh joy
#5241 [22:02] <meiskam> i did ipconfig /release .. /renew, and i'm back
#5242 [22:02] <Kealper> want to know what that means?
#5243 [22:02] <meiskam> trying again :P
#5244 [22:03] <Kealper> crack open device manager again, go into the settings for that card, check if you can raise the buffers :/
#5245 [22:03] <Nadnerb> Illegal stance sounds like some value related to the .. animation state of an avatar, I suppose
#5246 [22:03] <Nadnerb> an illegal one
#5247 [22:03] <xales> Nadnerb: it sounds like a mod doing something stupid to me
#5248 [22:03] <CruelNoise> mmhmm
#5249 [22:04] <meiskam> "Recieve Buffer Count"? = 40
#5250 [22:04] <xales> xENO_: Have them delete the bin folder, reinstall from minecraft
#5251 [22:04] <Nadnerb> additionally, the fact that it prints out a floating point number along with this error suggests that it is the illegal value
#5252 [22:04] <Kealper> 40?
#5253 [22:04] <meiskam> what is a good value to change it to
#5254 [22:04] <Nadnerb> xales > I'm gonna say.... no
#5255 [22:04] <Kealper> can it go higher than 40?
#5256 [22:04] <xales> Nadnerb: ?
#5257 [22:04] <meiskam> 128 is the highest
#5258 [22:04] <xales> Put it at 128
#5259 [22:04] <Nadnerb> well, given that no one in the group of 3 people that connect to the server has any form of client mod
#5260 [22:05] <xales> Nadnerb: Does only one person get it?
#5261 [22:05] <Kealper> 128 is still low, but it should work as long as you are not downloading the internet while playing
#5262 [22:05] <Nadnerb> yep
#5263 [22:05] <Nadnerb> and deleting their player data file allows them to log in again without triggering the error
#5264 [22:05] <Nadnerb> so the illegal value is also apparently stored in the player data
#5265 [22:05] <meiskam> ok, set it to 128, and all connections reset again
#5266 [22:05] <meiskam> about to connect to the server again
#5267 [22:05] <Kealper> delete the person's player.dat then
#5268 [22:05] <xales> ^
#5269 [22:05] <Nadnerb> already done.
#5270 [22:06] <Nadnerb> more interested in what causes the error
#5271 [22:06] <Kealper> meiskam: yes, the drivers have to restart to apply buffer stuff
#5272 [22:06] <Nadnerb> so it can be prevented, and/or fixed witout deleting inventory
#5273 [22:06] <xales> Nadnerb: no idea, possibly just a bad save or bad/interrupted data recieved from the client
#5274 [22:07] <Kealper> hmm....apparently it does not like loading the map and being summoned to a whole different part of the map
#5275 [22:07] <Kealper> transmit maybe....
#5276 [22:08] <Kealper> meiskam: was there an option to set transmit buffer?
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#5278 [22:11] * Kealper eats cake that was made in a microwave
#5278 [22:11] <xales> :o
#5279 [22:11] * xales has eaten cookies made in a microwave
#5279 [22:11] * xales but not cake
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#5280 [22:12] <Kealper> it's not too bad lol
#5281 [22:12] <Kealper> it's a bit too moist though
#5282 [22:12] <meiskam> ok i'm back again
#5283 [22:12] <meiskam> and no there was no transmit buffer
#5284 [22:12] <Kealper> and the cake shrunk away from the edges of the pan
#5285 [22:12] <Kealper> hmm...crap
#5286 [22:12] <meiskam> now the entire computer is freezing for about 10 seconds, then i get 5 seconds of use, then it repeats with 10 seconds completely frozen
#5287 [22:13] <Kealper> O.o
#5288 [22:13] <xales> how old is the computer?
#5289 [22:13] <meiskam> after setting java.exe (minecraft) to "low" priority, i got no freezing
#5290 [22:13] <Flamester_> question, how long does lava last when used to fuel a furnace?
#5291 [22:13] <Kealper> 100 "burns"
#5292 [22:13] <xales> Flamester_: for 1000 items cooked
#5293 [22:13] <Kealper> or smelts
#5294 [22:13] <xales> kealper, 1000
#5295 [22:13] <xales> IIRC
#5296 [22:13] <Flamester_> wow,
#5297 [22:13] <Kealper> 1000?
#5298 [22:13] <Kealper> i thought it was only 100
#5299 [22:13] <meiskam> it was 100, last time i checked
#5300 [22:13] <Arkose> 1000 seconds, 100 operations.
#5301 [22:13] <xales> ^
#5302 [22:13] <Arkose> according to the wiki.
#5303 [22:13] <Arkose> but note that the bucket will be destroyed.
#5304 [22:14] <Flamester_> yea,
#5305 [22:14] <Flamester_> i didnt know that before hand
#5306 [22:14] <Flamester_> I miss my bucket
#5307 [22:14] <xales> so, Kealper
#5308 [22:14] <Arkose> heh
#5309 [22:14] <meiskam> xales a few years :P .. cpu is 2 ghz
#5310 [22:14] <Arkose> I stick to charcoal. I'm being eco-friendly. ;)
#5311 [22:14] <Kealper> yeah, so only use it if you want to do some hardcore stuff lol
#5312 [22:14] <Kealper> so, xales
#5313 [22:14] <xales> I am sad about stuff taking so long to work when written in C/++, but higher level languages being shitty, slow, and not being able to touch low-level stuff
#5314 [22:15] * xales might look at AutoIt :o
#5314 [22:15] <Kealper> :o
#5315 [22:15] <Kealper> you will be like OMFG<33333333 if you start using it
#5316 [22:15] <meiskam> :o autoit is not any faster than other high level languages
#5317 [22:15] <Kealper> oh yes it is
#5318 [22:15] <xales> Python has GUI lag under windows. GUI LAG
#5319 [22:15] <Kealper> it runs cirles around quite a few others
#5320 [22:16] <Flamester_> I started out near a patch of lava on the ground
#5321 [22:16] <Flamester_> Im making a glass flored house,
#5322 [22:16] <Flamester_> who needs torches anyway.
#5323 [22:16] <Kealper> and not only is it fast at it's native autoit code, if you need something done faster or more low-level than it can do (directed at xales) you can make a DLL in whatever language you want and call it from autoit
#5324 [22:16] <meiskam> put lava directly under your glass, and you dont need torches :P
#5325 [22:16] <Kealper> to let the DLL do all the hard work that autoit would otherwise be too slow at
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#5327 [22:17] <Flamester_> When I find a diamond im going to replace the stone with obsidon
#5328 [22:17] <Jackson413> guys i need help bad
#5329 [22:17] <Kealper> and if you need even more integration with a C/C++ DLL, you can load it as a plugin and call it's functions just like it was native autoit code
#5330 [22:17] <Jackson413> my client is screwed up
#5331 [22:17] <Jackson413> whenever i talk i crash
#5332 [22:17] <Kealper> o.o
#5333 [22:17] <Kealper> !reinstall
#5334 [22:17] <xales> ^
#5335 [22:17] <Jackson413> and my bro can use the client
#5336 [22:18] <Kealper> it's just your account?
#5337 [22:18] <Jackson413> and yes ive reinstalled it
#5338 [22:18] <Jackson413> YES
#5339 [22:18] <Jackson413> caps sry
#5340 [22:18] <Kealper> Jackson413: go on the server mc.kealper.com
#5341 [22:18] <Jackson413> ok
#5342 [22:19] <Jackson413> works on there
#5343 [22:19] <Jackson413> i can speak
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#5345 [22:20] <Flamester_> one more querestion, why do aminals insist on jumping into my pit of lava?
#5346 [22:20] <relsqui> they're attracted to light
#5347 [22:20] <Flamester_> suicadal moth brains then
#5348 [22:21] <Arkose> you can take advantage of that to make a trap that kills them and collects their items.
#5349 [22:22] * DopeGhoti has arrived home.
#5349 [22:22] * xales gives DopeGhoti an AuBot cookie
#5349 [22:23] <xales> so Kealper
#5350 [22:23] <xales> how 2 learn AutoIt
#5351 [22:23] <Kealper> by coding into #coders and giving me a few sec :P
#5352 [22:23] <xales> coding into?
#5353 [22:23] <Kealper> hmm?
#5354 [22:23] <xales> wow what
#5355 [22:23] <Arkose> coming, not coding :D
#5356 [22:24] <xales> I was on the autoit site like a month ago
#5357 [22:24] <xales> it looks very different now
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#5359 [22:28] <Kealper> wow that is really weird
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#5366 [22:48] <Glas> Hello
#5367 [22:48] <Kealper> hello
#5368 [22:48] <Glas> i just finished a server for Chile :)
#5369 [22:49] <Glas> and finsihed my first roallercoaster
#5370 [22:49] <Kealper> :o
#5371 [22:49] <Glas> wanna check? :D
#5372 [22:50] <Kealper> i guess i could for a few lol
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#5374 [22:50] <Glas> btw
#5375 [22:50] * GV sighs
#5375 [22:50] <Glas> is this fine for a xeon 2,11 ghz 2gb ram server?
#5376 [22:50] <Glas> -Xmx2048M -Xms1024M -XX:MaxPermSize=30m
#5377 [22:51] <GV> Usually, with servers, you'll want to set a static RAM allocation.
#5378 [22:51] <Glas> Should i? :S im new
#5379 [22:51] <Glas> -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -XX:MaxPermSize=1024m like that?
#5380 [22:51] <GV> Otherwise, you run the risk of fragmenting the heap for the server, adding needless hard drive latency to the equation
#5381 [22:52] <Glas> oh
#5382 [22:52] <GV> What's with the -XX: argument?
#5383 [22:52] <GV> Don't think I've seen that.
#5384 [22:53] <Glas> permanent generation heap
#5385 [22:53] <Glas> http://wiki.caucho.com/-XX:MaxPermSize
#5386 [22:54] * GV reads
#5386 [22:55] <GV> Hmm, heap generation for classes, I see..
#5387 [22:55] <GV> You really don't have to set that argument for a minecraft server..
#5388 [22:56] <Glas> oh
#5389 [22:56] <Glas> then i will remove it
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#5391 [22:56] <GV> By default, java removes allocation set aside for classes that it doesn't use. It's part of java's active garbage collection.
#5392 [22:57] <Glas> I didn't know that
#5393 [22:57] <GV> Setting aside a gig of RAM for java is alright to start with. Could I ask how many people you plan to host at one time?
#5394 [22:57] <Glas> not more than 8
#5395 [22:57] <Glas> 8-10
#5396 [22:57] <Glas> i will increase when more people arrives
#5397 [22:57] <GV> Anything else running on that server?
#5398 [22:57] <Glas> wserver 2003
#5399 [22:57] <Glas> nothing else
#5400 [22:58] <GV> How much free ram do you have on the server? If you don't have any other processes eating up ram, try to set it as close to 2 gigs as possible. Nothing wrong with that
#5401 [22:59] <Glas> other processes eats 20mb :P
#5402 [22:59] <Glas> @echo off java -Xmx1082M -Xms1082M ?
#5403 [22:59] <GV> Say, a gig and a half?
#5404 [22:59] <Glas> oops
#5405 [23:00] <GV> -Xmx1536M -Xms1536M?
#5406 [23:00] <Glas> i mean 1800
#5407 [23:00] <GV> Sure
#5408 [23:00] <Glas> yeah that will be fine
#5409 [23:01] <Glas> wow
#5410 [23:01] <Glas> works faster
#5411 [23:01] <Glas> lol
#5412 [23:01] * AuBot kicked Glas from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
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#5414 [23:01] <GV> Meep
#5415 [23:01] <Glas> uugh, O_O
#5416 [23:01] <Glas> server's up, wanna try the rollercoaster? :D
#5417 [23:02] <GV> Yeah, I can't really run minecraft on this laptop too well... got too many other things going on at the moment
#5418 [23:02] <Glas> oh
#5419 [23:02] * GV pokes the other vops/aops
#5419 [23:02] <Cial> ?
#5420 [23:02] * GV points Cial to Glas
#5420 [23:02] <Cial> what?
#5421 [23:02] * Glas nods
#5421 [23:03] <Cial> elaborate
#5422 [23:03] <GV> See if you can connect to Glas, see if there's any noticable server problems
#5423 [23:03] <Cial> lol i cant connect to shit
#5424 [23:03] <GV> Bleh!
#5425 [23:03] <Cial> im on a dialup connection
#5426 [23:03] * GV snerks
#5426 [23:03] <Glas> it's fine
#5427 [23:03] <Cial> neeeext
#5428 [23:03] <Glas> i guess it will work fine :P
#5429 [23:03] <GV> Hah, okay.
#5430 [23:03] <Glas> just by curiosity
#5431 [23:03] <Glas> is there any command to wipe items from floor?
#5432 [23:04] <GV> Travel far enough away from that chunk, it'll unload, deleting all the items on the floor with it
#5433 [23:04] <GV> Or wait 5 minutes
#5434 [23:04] <Glas> cuz at least there are no plugins from bukkit
#5435 [23:04] <Kealper> rawr?
#5436 [23:04] <Glas> oh
#5437 [23:05] <Glas> didn't know that
#5438 [23:05] <DopeGhoti> Someone need a client test? I have a few minutes.
#5439 [23:06] <Glas> ?
#5440 [23:06] <Glas> minecraftchile.no-ip.org:5001 :P
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#5442 [23:09] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: is it heavily lagging for you, too?
#5443 [23:09] <Kealper> i've got like....insane lag
#5444 [23:10] <Kealper> not just "oh, it's in a different country" kind of lag, i mean like... 5 minutes of lag kind of lag
#5445 [23:10] <Glas> lolwhat
#5446 [23:10] <Glas> but runs fine from my pc
#5447 [23:10] <Glas> and im like 300km far from server
#5448 [23:10] <Kealper> remember ages ago when you said open the chest to ge ta minecrat?
#5449 [23:11] <Kealper> minecart*
#5450 [23:11] <Kealper> i JUST opened for me
#5451 [23:11] <Glas> lol that was like 5 minutes ago
#5452 [23:11] <Kealper> yeah
#5453 [23:11] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: yes, it's very bad.
#5454 [23:11] <Glas> what about making a ping to the server?
#5455 [23:11] <Kealper> it's not distance lag, go to http://speedtest.net and run a speed test on the server that is closest to you
#5456 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 11430ms
#5457 [23:12] <Glas> wow
#5458 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> yes, eleven seconds.
#5459 [23:12] <Kealper> woh
#5460 [23:12] <Kealper> on a ping? that is insane
#5461 [23:12] <Glas> let's see speedtest P:
#5462 [23:12] <Kealper> let me ping you from this server that i'm IRCing on, it's in a datacenter in Panama
#5463 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> compare with this result from google's DNS:
#5464 [23:12] <Kealper> so...not too far from you
#5465 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms
#5466 [23:13] <Glas> im pinging to santiago, closest server
#5467 [23:13] <Glas> ping 3ms
#5468 [23:13] <Glas> 10mb dl and 4 upload
#5469 [23:13] <Kealper> weird
#5470 [23:14] <DopeGhoti> Might be a QoS issue. Why the nonstandard port?
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#5472 [23:14] <Kealper> my server in Panama gets a constant 145ms ping to him
#5473 [23:14] <DopeGhoti> well, here's the weird thing
#5474 [23:15] <DopeGhoti> even though the packets took three seconds each to come back
#5475 [23:15] <Glas> washintong dc gets constant 128ms lol
#5476 [23:15] <DopeGhoti> PING minecraftchile.no-ip.org (200.27.162.19) 56(84) bytes of data.
#5477 [23:15] <DopeGhoti> 64 bytes from 200.27.162.19: icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=338 ms
#5478 [23:15] <Kealper> Glas: ping kealper.com
#5479 [23:15] <DopeGhoti> Clearly something is getting throttled somewhere
#5480 [23:15] <Kealper> i don't think it's network throttle
#5481 [23:16] <Kealper> i think it's system bottleneck
#5482 [23:16] <DopeGhoti> It's not throughput, it has to be latency of some sort
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#5484 [23:16] <Glas> @_@
#5485 [23:16] <Kealper> what was your ping to kealper.com?
#5486 [23:17] <Glas> loltimedout
#5487 [23:17] <Kealper> O.o
#5488 [23:17] <Glas> but website loads instantly
#5489 [23:17] <Kealper> that's....weird...
#5490 [23:17] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: can you ping kealper.com?
#5491 [23:17] <Glas> i think network firewall blocked ping request
#5492 [23:17] <xales> PING kealper.com (67.177.131.104) 56(84) bytes of data.
#5493 [23:17] <xales> 64 bytes from c-67-177-131-104.hsd1.mi.comcast.net (67.177.131.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=52.8 ms
#5494 [23:18] <Kealper> yeah, it's reachable from my big server too
#5495 [23:18] <Kealper> hmmm >.>
#5496 [23:18] <Glas> hm i will restart the server just in case weeks since last one
#5497 [23:18] <xales> what's the issue?
#5498 [23:18] <xales> too lazeh to scroll up
#5499 [23:18] <Kealper> Glas: you run the server from the same machine you play the game on, right?
#5500 [23:18] <Glas> no
#5501 [23:18] <Kealper> xales: MASSIVE lag on his server
#5502 [23:18] <Glas> the xeon is a dedicated machine
#5503 [23:18] <Kealper> really? hmm
#5504 [23:18] <Glas> i don't run from my notebook lol
#5505 [23:19] <NevermoreDCE> any know why I wouldn't be able to connect to a server on the local network?
#5506 [23:19] <Kealper> look at the server's cpu usage when you are on it, then when i log on, see if it punches through the roof
#5507 [23:19] <Glas> wait, i restarted the machine Kealper
#5508 [23:19] <xales> NevermoreDCE: What IP are you using to connect to it?
#5509 [23:19] <Glas> NevermoreDCE: maybe you put localhost in the config file instead of 127.0.0.1?
#5510 [23:20] <Kealper> Glas: alright, tell me when to connect
#5511 [23:20] <Glas> oh disregard waht i've said
#5512 [23:20] <xales> There shouldn't be any IP in the config file
#5513 [23:20] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: sure
#5514 [23:20] <NevermoreDCE> 192.168.2.8 or the external ip, port 25565 is forwarded to that server in the router (confirmed from canyouseeme.org), no IP in the file
#5515 [23:20] <DopeGhoti> 64 bytes from c-67-177-131-104.hsd1.mi.comcast.net (67.177.131.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=144 ms
#5516 [23:20] <NevermoreDCE> it's on the local network, not on the local machine though
#5517 [23:20] <xales> NevermoreDCE: Firewall?
#5518 [23:21] <NevermoreDCE> turned off windows firewall for private network
#5519 [23:21] <Glas> k kealper
#5520 [23:21] <Glas> done
#5521 [23:21] <Glas> it'sup
#5522 [23:21] * AuBot kicked Glas from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
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#5524 [23:21] <Kealper> lol
#5525 [23:22] <NevermoreDCE> server is a 2008r2 box, local is win7
#5526 [23:22] <Kealper> spoke too fast, aubot thought it was a spam attempt
#5527 [23:22] <Glas> cpu 5% ram transaction process 3gb aprox java.exe using 400mb
#5528 [23:22] <Kealper> Glas: you are on it right now?
#5529 [23:22] <xales> Glas: How are you launching the server?
#5530 [23:22] <Glas> nope im not
#5531 [23:22] <Kealper> ok, log on to it
#5532 [23:22] <xales> NevermoreDCE: What error do you get when you try to connect?
#5533 [23:22] <Kealper> check the cpu usage with you on it
#5534 [23:22] <Glas> @echo off java -Xmx1536M -Xms1536M
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#5536 [23:23] <Glas> jumped to 40% cpu
#5537 [23:23] <Kealper> ok, still about average for normal players on
#5538 [23:23] <Glas> nows back into 4%
#5539 [23:23] <xales> If the server is 64-bit, make sure 64-bit Java is installed
#5540 [23:23] <NevermoreDCE> timeout, although on the server I show a connect, and then an immediate "NevermoreDCE lost connection: disconnected.GenericReason"
#5541 [23:23] <Glas> using x64
#5542 [23:23] <nanotron> is there a way to "rename" or set the name of the "Player" account that is used when connecting to a local Minecraft server?
#5543 [23:23] <Kealper> Glas: is it pegged at 100%?
#5544 [23:23] <nanotron> I'm using "online-mode=false"
#5545 [23:23] <Glas> kealperl ogged in 5%
#5546 [23:23] <xales> nanotron: Turn off offline-mode
#5547 [23:23] <xales> :P
#5548 [23:24] <Glas> 3% ram transaction still 3gb java.exe 40x ram
#5549 [23:24] <Glas> no changes
#5550 [23:24] <xales> NevermoreDCE: Make sure the server can contact minecraft.net outgoing
#5551 [23:24] <Kealper> hmm....i have no idea then
#5552 [23:24] <Glas> it's fine
#5553 [23:24] <Glas> no problem
#5554 [23:24] <Kealper> it's not a system bottleneck :/
#5555 [23:24] <Glas> :) i am sure local people will be able to enter
#5556 [23:24] <Kealper> must be networking issues then :/
#5557 [23:24] <Glas> :P at least, how's my roller coaster?
#5558 [23:24] <Kealper> Glas: one could assume
#5559 [23:24] <Kealper> i can't try it, too much lag
#5560 [23:24] <nanotron> I'm running the server so my two kids can play... I take it I'll therefore need to buy them their own minecraft accounts then? (versus using the freely registered one's from minecraft.net)
#5561 [23:25] <Glas> nevermind Kealper
#5562 [23:25] <Glas> you helped me a lot
#5563 [23:25] <Glas> i owe you a beer
#5564 [23:25] <xales> nanotron: No, they would be able to play on yours for the time being
#5565 [23:25] <xales> assuming you own it
#5566 [23:25] <Kealper> moving to a different terminal, brb
#5567 [23:26] <DopeGhoti> xales: one at a time, though
#5568 [23:26] <nanotron> right, I'm playing my Premium account on the same machine as the server... Account #2 worked fine as "Player" until account #3 conflicted with it using the same name, "Player"
#5569 [23:26] <DopeGhoti> xales: connecting a second session from the same account drops the older sessions
#5570 [23:26] <xales> DopeGhoti: No, you can have multiple accounts on the same server AFAIK
#5571 [23:26] <brasslaser> I don't suppose it's possible to revert to an older save is it? :(
#5572 [23:26] <DopeGhoti> xales: I tested this on my server yesterday, in fact
#5573 [23:26] <xales> brasslaser: Only if you have a copy of the old save
#5574 [23:26] <DopeGhoti> (well, $USER did)
#5575 [23:26] <brasslaser> damn
#5576 [23:26] <Arkose> brasslaser: what's your OS?
#5577 [23:27] <brasslaser> windows XP
#5578 [23:27] <Glas> thanks for all guys
#5579 [23:27] <Glas> but 1:26 am here
#5580 [23:27] <Glas> and gotta work
#5581 [23:27] <Arkose> ah, well, you're out of luck then yes
#5582 [23:27] <Glas> later Kealper
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#5584 [23:27] <Kealper> FUUUU.....was typing a message to him
#5585 [23:27] <brasslaser> had a weird save issue, it saved a chunk as it was before I put part of my house and stuff on it :(
#5586 [23:28] <xales> nanotron: No idea, ask Dope about it, I haven't messed around with that stuff as much
#5587 [23:28] <xales> also, Kealper, I set a pretty specific ban (just the {dynamic} IP) on Draglems1 [Link62@94.196.132.149.threembb.co.uk]
#5588 [23:28] <xales> so if you see him..he is banned here now
#5589 [23:29] <Kealper> ok, did he be a noob after i went to bed last night?
#5590 [23:29] <xales> pretty much
#5591 [23:29] <DopeGhoti> what'd I do?
#5592 [23:29] <Kealper> :/
#5593 [23:29] <Kealper> lol dope
#5594 [23:29] <nanotron> well, thank for the info guys. I'll just pay for the extra accounts if I have to. My 5 and 7 year old are learning a lot from minecraft.
#5595 [23:29] <Kealper> :o
#5596 [23:29] <DopeGhoti> nanotron: it's worth it IMO, especially if you want to teach themabout logic gates.
#5597 [23:30] <xales> actually, nevermind, Kealper
#5598 [23:30] <xales> 23:30:01 -ChanServ(services@esper.net)- *!*Link62*@*.threembb.co.uk added to #minecrafthelp autokick list.
#5599 [23:30] <Kealper> redstone in mc = perfect for budding nerds
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#5601 [23:30] <nanotron> DopeGhoti: Heh, yeah... I just started playing and will do so (as soon as I get enough Redstone)... ;-)
#5602 [23:31] <Kealper> oh, that reminds me....i think i have that weird issue with the nospam module unbanning people on the exception list (even though they were never banned in the first place) fixed
#5603 [23:32] <xales> yeah, I saw that
#5604 [23:32] <Kealper> so if you see it happen again, tell me...so i can pack that module full of debug code and see wtf is going on
#5605 [23:32] <DopeGhoti> If Robot Odyssey or Rocky's Boots are at all famliiar to you, RS will make you squee with joy
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#5607 [23:34] <jamster> I have tried my minecraft server on 3 machines and 3 different OS's. Currently it is running on a dual p4 xeon w hyperthreading and 4gb's of ram .. on a clean ubuntu install .. but i still randomly get big gaping holes if i travel a lot. My processor / ram is never maxed out when this happens and if i disconnect and reconnect it fixes the hole infront of me. How do i fix this?
#5608 [23:35] <xales> The random holes are a known bug they happen to everyone
#5609 [23:35] <xales> just reconnect and they will go away
#5610 [23:35] <jamster> oh ok, so it isn't the way my computer is setup?
#5611 [23:35] <jamster> that's good
#5612 [23:35] <jamster> thanks xales!
#5613 [23:35] <xales> no problem
#5614 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> jamster: indeed, it's a clientside bug
#5615 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> jamster: the client isn't properly requesting terrain data from the server
#5616 [23:37] <NevermoreDCE> xales, is there a particular port of minecraft.net it should be accessing?
#5617 [23:37] <xales> 80
#5618 [23:38] <NevermoreDCE> well, server can reach www.minecraft.net in a browser no problem
#5619 [23:38] <jamster> DopeGhoti: oh okay, becuase if i travel on a minecart it lets me go through the hole as long as i only look forward .. just like when you drive in a bad part of town .. don't look anywhere but forward
#5620 [23:38] <xales> NevermoreDCE: You sure there isn't any firewall running?
#5621 [23:38] <DopeGhoti> jamster: doubly odd; I can look anywhere I wish when riding through those chunks
#5622 [23:38] <xales> also, how are you running the server?
#5623 [23:38] <jamster> haha weird
#5624 [23:38] <NevermoreDCE> internally no, externally windows firewall is enabled
#5625 [23:41] <xales> are you launching the server from the EXE?
#5626 [23:47] <NevermoreDCE> launching it from the exe yes
#5627 [23:48] <xales> Kealper, aubot randomly banned you :P
#5628 [23:48] <xales> NevermoreDCE: It isn't an Atheros NIC in the server by any chance, is it?
#5629 [23:49] <Kealper> wut
#5630 [23:49] <Kealper> methinks the channel exemption stuff might not work.....
#5631 [23:49] <Kealper> why is aubot oped in here anyways?
#5632 [23:49] <Kealper> hell, why am i oped in here
#5633 [23:49] <NevermoreDCE> um, yes, is that a known issue?
#5634 [23:50] <xales> Kealper
#5635 [23:50] <xales> #minecrafthelp ._.
#5636 [23:50] <xales> NevermoreDCE: Indeed it is, sadly
#5637 [23:50] <xales> they don't cooperate with Windows
#5638 [23:50] <NevermoreDCE> dangit, brand new hardware too... alas, off to buy a cheap nic, lol
#5639 [23:50] <GV> Sorry NevermoreDCE.
#5640 [23:50] <Kealper> DERP
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#5642 [23:51] * GV stabs Kealper's AuBot with a shiv
#5642 [23:51] <kaboom> #risucraft
#5643 [23:51] <NevermoreDCE> hey, i'm happy to finally know what it is
#5644 [23:51] <Kealper> thought i was looking at #minecraft....was going like wtf why is aubot in here....i thought i parted it...why is it oped? why am I OPED?!
#5645 [23:51] <xales> lol
#5646 [23:53] <Kealper> just....say #risucraft and click on the text....it's a mibbit link and you will automatically join it ._.
#5647 [23:53] <GV> That can be remedied..
#5648 [23:53] <xales> Kealper, helps to ping them or something
#5649 [23:53] <xales> ._.
#5650 [23:53] <Kealper> NevermoreDCE: ping!
#5651 [23:54] <NevermoreDCE> Kealper, pong!
#5652 [23:54] <Kealper> look up at my last message
#5653 [23:54] * xales is confused
#5653 [23:55] * xales was talking about "kaboom" kealper ._.
#5653 [23:55] <Kealper> damnit....specify
#5654 [23:55] <xales> Kealper: Nevermore isn't even using Mibbit :P
#5655 [23:56] <Kealper> like i was even paying attention to this channel -.-
#5656 [23:56] <Kealper> wait....now that i look up
#5657 [23:56] <Kealper> i see what you were talking about
#5658 [23:56] <Kealper> what a noob -.-
#5659 [23:56] <Kealper> (both me for sucking hardcore, and him for just sucking at irc)
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#5661 [23:57] <Elvang> Saw a video where a minecart went over a pressure plate and continued on the rail after it, is this still possible?
#5662 [23:58] <xales> I don't think it ever was
#5663 [23:58] <Kealper> depends, if it's being pushed by a booster cart, it will ride right over it
#5664 [23:58] <Elvang> Nope, was just boosted
#5665 [23:58] <Kealper> then the person had MinecartMania on
#5666 [23:58] <Elvang> :o
#5667 [23:59] <SunSparc> On a multiplayer server, I traveled far away from the spawn point, did some really cool building and then died. Is there any way to find where I was?
#5668 [23:59] <Kealper> nope :/
#5669 [23:59] <SunSparc> Lol
#5670 [23:59] <Kealper> well
#5671 [23:59] <xales> SunSparc: Ask the server admin, and in the future, you can see the coordinates you are at by holding F3
#5672 [23:59] <Elvang> If it generates a map, you can try looking at it
#5673 [23:59] <xales> just write down where you build stuff
#5674 [23:59] <xales> and you can always find your way back, using those coordinates
#5675 [23:59] <SunSparc> xales: Hmm... good call. I will try that.