#1 [00:00] <Kealper> oh, not as bad then, but still bad
#2 [00:00] <GV> Let us never speak of MCadmin ever again
#3 [00:00] <Wahrheit> Kealper: I need ideas for stuff to put in my city. Shoot.
#4 [00:00] <nevercast> I think I've got it :D
#5 [00:00] <Kealper> Wahrheit: a house.
#6 [00:00] <Kealper> lol
#7 [00:00] <Wahrheit> Kealper: omg already done, castle even
#8 [00:00] <Kealper> a working mailbox
#9 [00:01] <GV> Wahrheit - A city wall, lined with alternating cactus/burning blocks of netherstone
#10 [00:01] <Kealper> lawd...i should make that into my mod
#11 [00:01] <GV> Also, moat of lava
#12 [00:01] <Wahrheit> Nether/Soul is reserved for capture the flag
#13 [00:01] <GV> Doubles as a mob trap, deposits drops into a bottom cellar room
#14 [00:02] <Kealper> grey wanna help me test this tcp server wrapper that i whipped up a while back in autoit?
#15 [00:02] <GV> Then um, labyrinth, filled with traps
#16 [00:02] <GV> Hmm?
#17 [00:02] <GV> Whatsitdo?
#18 [00:03] <Kealper> right now, it just acts as a local proxy, so it does not really do much to the packets
#19 [00:03] <Kealper> this is just to see if autoit is actually up to the packetspam called minecraft's protocol
#20 [00:03] <Kealper> and i'd like to test it with multiple users
#21 [00:03] <Kealper> after i throw some debug code to check the times it takes for doing certain functions and stuff first
#22 [00:04] <GV> What do you need me to do?
#23 [00:04] <Kealper> basically just log in to my server on port 25566 (when i say) and move around and stuff like you would normally
#24 [00:05] <GV> Hmm, I think I can do that..
#25 [00:05] <Kealper> others are welcome to join to help, as well, the more people...the better the test will be
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#27 [00:07] <lemon-rev> did we deal with ZigfriedWolf
#28 [00:07] <Kealper> ok, starting it up with it set to tell me every time it takes longer than 10ms to send all the data in it's buffers
#29 [00:07] <Kealper> iono :/
#30 [00:07] <lemon-rev> k
#31 [00:07] <lemon-rev> ZigfriedWolf
#32 [00:07] <lemon-rev> guess hes gone
#33 [00:08] <nevercast> Hey #minecrafthelp
#34 [00:08] <nevercast> Got a question
#35 [00:08] <Kealper> wow....that is slow with just me on it
#36 [00:08] <nevercast> How do you guys set up your mines so you know where you are?
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#38 [00:09] <nevercast> Do you only torch main paths?
#39 [00:09] <nevercast> Do you plant signs?
#40 [00:09] <Kealper> i don't
#41 [00:09] <Kealper> i've just always been good at remembering what way is out
#42 [00:09] <GV> torches for me
#43 [00:09] <lemon-rev> its tottally up to you i make arrows out of tourches
#44 [00:09] <nevercast> lemon-rev, That's rather awesome :P
#45 [00:09] <Kealper> and if all else fails, dig up :o
#46 [00:09] <lemon-rev> or mark main staircases with double touches
#47 [00:09] <nevercast> Kealper, Into sand and Ocean :P
#48 [00:09] <Kealper> that's part of the fun!
#49 [00:09] <nevercast> My main problem is when I reach a massive cave
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#51 [00:10] <nevercast> I just start exploring
#52 [00:10] <ZigfriedWolf> whoops
#53 [00:10] <nevercast> torching the place up so I can see
#54 [00:10] <nevercast> then I get super lost because everything has a torch
#55 [00:10] <ZigfriedWolf> lol closed out bye accident
#56 [00:10] <ZigfriedWolf> *by
#57 [00:13] <arensirb> Kealper: You say a dev HAS to release source code, what if he refuses?
#58 [00:13] <arensirb> I sure would
#59 [00:13] <lemon-rev> oh
#60 [00:13] <lemon-rev> ZigfriedWolf you back,
#61 [00:13] <relsqui> nevercast: re: setting up mines, I don't, I just get lost
#62 [00:14] <relsqui> nevercast: if I can't find my way out I make a new out :P
#63 [00:14] <lemon-rev> ZigfriedWolf did you get your firewall to add minecraft
#64 [00:14] <Kealper> ok....everyone who wants to be part of this quick test hop on the server mc.kealper.com:25566 and just do stuff like...walk around and such, break some dirt on the ground and put it back, etc
#65 [00:14] <Kealper> remember to connect on that port, too
#66 [00:14] <arensirb> End of stream
#67 [00:14] <arensirb> what does that mean?
#68 [00:14] <nevercast> relsqui, LOL fair enough
#69 [00:14] <nevercast> relsqui, I'd love to have my mine planned and structured
#70 [00:15] <Kealper> means my wrapper sucks, try again lol, lemonrev joined right when you did
#71 [00:15] <relsqui> yeah, I mean. it's easy to START structured
#72 [00:15] <nevercast> relsqui, If it looses structure.. reinstate it
#73 [00:15] <relsqui> I have some very nice corkscrew mineshafts
#74 [00:15] <relsqui> but .... then you hit something interesting
#75 [00:15] <nevercast> relsqui, Yeah me too.
#76 [00:15] <nevercast> relsqui, a cave full of ore for instance
#77 [00:15] <nevercast> relsqui, then you start mining everything
#78 [00:15] <nevercast> relsqui, structure gone
#79 [00:15] <nevercast> relsqui, You find yourself a lot deeper and have to jump-drop dirt to get back up
#80 [00:15] <relsqui> mhm
#81 [00:16] <nevercast> or cobblestone
#82 [00:16] <GV> Wee falling forever
#83 [00:16] <nevercast> LOL
#84 [00:16] <relsqui> well, I never leave myself *without* a way out
#85 [00:16] <relsqui> I don't dig myself into places I can't get out of
#86 [00:16] <relsqui> except in rare circumstances
#87 [00:16] <Benwin> Is there a way to turn headbob off in the new version of MC?
#88 [00:16] <GV> Oh god, it's much slower to load Kealper
#89 [00:16] <Benwin> headbob makes me ill.
#90 [00:16] <nevercast> relsqui, There rarely is a situation where you can't get out
#91 [00:16] <arensirb> dang thatlags Kealper
#92 [00:16] <Kealper> yeah, i can see the times that it's throwing
#93 [00:16] <nevercast> relsqui, I've dug myself through diamond with my bare hands before
#94 [00:16] <arensirb> Did you forget to move the
#95 [00:16] <relsqui> nevercast: right, but I mean I almost never have to jump-drop
#96 [00:16] <arensirb> spawnpoint btw?
#97 [00:16] <Kealper> and it's taking upwards of 4-5 seconds just to run the function that proxies the buffers :/
#98 [00:17] <nevercast> relsqui, I'm always jump dropping when I'm lower than I should be... by like 5 blocks
#99 [00:17] <nevercast> relsqui, Do you play much multi?
#100 [00:17] <Kealper> arensirb: it spawns at a random spot around the spawn point
#101 [00:17] <relsqui> I only play multi.
#102 [00:17] <nevercast> relsqui, Got a frequent server?
#103 [00:17] <relsqui> I've spent about 30s in single player ever XD
#104 [00:17] <relsqui> yeah
#105 [00:17] <Kealper> and it's still throwing 1 sec spikes :/
#106 [00:17] <relsqui> basically all my play time has been logged on my friend's server
#107 [00:17] <GV> geebus it's laggy
#108 [00:17] <relsqui> nevercast: why?
#109 [00:18] <arensirb> Kealper: aha, i fell like 300 blocks
#110 [00:18] <Kealper> killing wrapper, everyone will DC
#111 [00:18] <nevercast> relsqui, I'm thinking about going multi
#112 [00:18] <arensirb> atleast looked like it
#113 [00:18] * relsqui nods
#113 [00:18] <relsqui> I don't really understand the appeal of single player
#114 [00:18] <Benwin> Is that a no? :(
#115 [00:18] <nevercast> relsqui, But wish to join a server with some none griefing decent players
#116 [00:18] <relsqui> what's the point of building cool shit if no one can see it? :)
#117 [00:18] <Benwin> nevermind
#118 [00:18] <Benwin> *sigh*
#119 [00:18] <nevercast> relsqui, In single player, people don't destroy all your shit
#120 [00:18] <Benwin> My eyes
#121 [00:19] <arensirb> relsqui: The power of youtube
#122 [00:19] <nevercast> ^
#123 [00:19] <Kealper> yeah, looks like that just can't keep up with how much data minecraft sends :/
#124 [00:19] <relsqui> ah
#125 [00:19] <GV> Eep
#126 [00:19] <relsqui> yeah, I don't watch videos on the internet *g*
#127 [00:19] <arensirb> nevercast: Griefers should be banned
#128 [00:19] <relsqui> I rarely watch video off the internet, anyway
#129 [00:19] <nevercast> arensirb, I agree! but they are not always banned so quickly
#130 [00:19] <nevercast> arensirb, Do you play much on multi?
#131 [00:19] <relsqui> and even if they get banned they've still destroyed your stuff
#132 [00:19] <nevercast> arensirb, Suggest a friendly server?
#133 [00:19] <arensirb> Then the server needs more mods
#134 [00:19] <arensirb> nevercast: I just play on the norwegian community server
#135 [00:20] <arensirb> OH!
#136 [00:20] <arensirb> I found a bug
#137 [00:20] <nevercast> probably be huge lag to me
#138 [00:20] <nevercast> arensirb, bug?
#139 [00:20] <nevercast> AHH
#140 [00:20] <arensirb> In main window, it says "Let's danec!"
#141 [00:20] <nevercast> Don't press Q while holding your Diamond Pick as you stand over a very deep ledge :S
#142 [00:20] <arensirb> nevercast: Thats a good tip
#143 [00:20] <nevercast> arensirb, I literally dived for my pick
#144 [00:21] <lemon-rev> thought q was quit lol
#145 [00:21] <lemon-rev> :P
#146 [00:21] <arensirb> A better tip is: Dont jump after it
#147 [00:21] <nevercast> Why not?
#148 [00:21] <nevercast> I lived :D
#149 [00:21] <nevercast> now I can mine out
#150 [00:21] <relsqui> then it wasn't that deep :P
#151 [00:21] <arensirb> oh :P
#152 [00:21] <arensirb> what relsqui said
#153 [00:21] <nevercast> relsqui, It was deep but there are bits out the side
#154 [00:21] <relsqui> ah
#155 [00:21] <nevercast> I hit one
#156 [00:21] <nevercast> went EHHHH!!!!
#157 [00:21] <arensirb> The SW rule with rails, is that intentional?
#158 [00:21] <nevercast> and survived lol.
#159 [00:22] <relsqui> yeah friend of mine once saw what he thought was a chunk error
#160 [00:22] <relsqui> and jumped in just for shits and giggles
#161 [00:22] <relsqui> it was not a chunk error.
#162 [00:22] <arensirb> HAHA
#163 [00:22] <arensirb> owned
#164 [00:22] <relsqui> well, similarly, there were bits of overhang
#165 [00:22] <relsqui> so he did not actually die
#166 [00:22] <relsqui> but he did kind of freak out
#167 [00:23] <arensirb> 6am here now
#168 [00:25] <nevercast> BAHAHAHAHAHA
#169 [00:25] <nevercast> I got lost
#170 [00:25] <nevercast> Mined a stair case
#171 [00:25] <arensirb> and?
#172 [00:25] <nevercast> it poped out at the back of my sugarcane farm
#173 [00:25] <arensirb> is it big?
#174 [00:25] <nevercast> Now it's a secret entry/exit :P
#175 [00:25] <nevercast> No it's like 10 tiles
#176 [00:25] <arensirb> the farm i mean
#177 [00:25] <nevercast> but it's concealed
#178 [00:25] <relsqui> nevercast: I did that digging a tunnel
#179 [00:26] <relsqui> except very slightly more intentionally
#180 [00:26] <arensirb> I have a minimap in my client.. (yes, i know client side mod is bad)
#181 [00:26] <arensirb> http://bildr.no/view/821822
#182 [00:26] <arensirb> btw, do i break any agreement by doing that?
#183 [00:26] <relsqui> nevercast: set out to dig a tunnel from my friend's place to mine, went in what vaguely seemed like the right direction
#184 [00:26] <relsqui> didn't look up
#185 [00:26] <relsqui> didn't use compass, didn't use coords
#186 [00:26] <relsqui> came out in my storeroom
#187 [00:27] <nevercast> LOL!
#188 [00:27] <nevercast> Nice :P
#189 [00:28] <nevercast> arensirb, No you don't
#190 [00:28] <arensirb> good :D I like that mod
#191 [00:28] <arensirb> notch should implement it
#192 [00:28] <nevercast> arensirb, If you read the agreement.. Once you buy the game. It's yours.. Fuck around all you like
#193 [00:28] <Zemedelphos> Yeah
#194 [00:28] <nevercast> arensirb, Just don't distrubute client or credentials
#195 [00:28] <Zemedelphos> It's not like Mojang is Nexon or anything.
#196 [00:28] <nevercast> arensirb, nor sell it
#197 [00:28] <arensirb> nevercast: I wont :)
#198 [00:28] <Kealper> oh god, Nexon
#199 [00:28] <nevercast> arensirb, Then you break no rules :)
#200 [00:28] <Zemedelphos> Yep...
#201 [00:28] <arensirb> I might give my credentials to my mom though, so she can test it :P
#202 [00:28] <nevercast> I personally love notch
#203 [00:28] <nevercast> not only does he encourage modding
#204 [00:29] <nevercast> he's setting up an api
#205 [00:29] <arensirb> try to get her to start it
#206 [00:29] <Kealper> indeed
#207 [00:29] <nevercast> and in 50 years when no one plays the game anymore and he's made millions, he'll open sauce it
#208 [00:29] <arensirb> You dont think hes made millions already?
#209 [00:29] <Zemedelphos> You mean in 50 years when it's the only major game in the world?
#210 [00:29] <Zemedelphos> And he's made Quadrillions?
#211 [00:29] <arensirb> My math says he has
#212 [00:29] <arensirb> or they have
#213 [00:30] <Zemedelphos> Well
#214 [00:30] <arensirb> atleast in revenue for the company
#215 [00:30] <Zemedelphos> Over 1 million copies sold
#216 [00:30] <Zemedelphos> At a minimum of 9 euros
#217 [00:30] <arensirb> I think there were like 70 000 when I bought it
#218 [00:30] <Zemedelphos> Meaning well over 9 million euros
#219 [00:30] <arensirb> yep
#220 [00:30] <arensirb> lotsa money for just a game
#221 [00:30] <arensirb> A simple game like that
#222 [00:30] <Zemedelphos> It's not just a game.
#223 [00:30] <Zemedelphos> It's the FUTURE
#224 [00:31] <nevercast> Haha
#225 [00:31] <Zemedelphos> XD
#226 [00:31] <arensirb> True, calling it a game does seem a little far fetched
#227 [00:31] <nevercast> well the future seems rather pixelated
#228 [00:31] <nevercast> just sayin
#229 [00:31] <arensirb> block-pecking
#230 [00:31] <nevercast> lol.
#231 [00:31] <nevercast> Know what's worse
#232 [00:31] <nevercast> I'm sitting on the bus
#233 [00:31] <Zemedelphos> Funfact: The world you percieve is a lie. There's no such thing as "round"!
#234 [00:31] <nevercast> calculating how many blocks there are from one step to the next
#235 [00:31] <nevercast> ' Oh thats a hole block '
#236 [00:31] <nevercast> ' that's half '
#237 [00:31] <Zemedelphos> Everything is made of tiny, tiny pixels.
#238 [00:31] <nevercast> Sitting in my lounge and I look up
#239 [00:31] <nevercast> I wonder how many blocks of stone would fill this roof
#240 [00:31] <arensirb> Does notch have any ideas for new blocks?
#241 [00:31] <nevercast> Stand outside.. wonder if there is lava below me
#242 [00:32] <GV> Already a new block in the works
#243 [00:32] <arensirb> Is 1 block thought of as 1x1x1m?
#244 [00:32] <nevercast> GV, what is it?
#245 [00:32] <Zemedelphos> My ceiling appears to be about 3*3.5 blocks of wood :3
#246 [00:32] <nevercast> arensirb, yes
#247 [00:32] <Kealper> arensirb: my lips are sealed on anything more than the new redstone block already set out :P
#248 [00:32] <arensirb> Well
#249 [00:32] <GV> Um, dunno yet
#250 [00:32] <arensirb> I sure as hell want booster blocks that work
#251 [00:32] <arensirb> Not like minecart mania that doesnt
#252 [00:32] <aetherian> brb
#253 [00:32] <aetherian> when I'm back
#254 [00:32] <aetherian> I'll be on lix
#255 [00:32] <Zemedelphos> Kealper: Do you mean it's already in the files, or already finished?
#256 [00:32] <arensirb> Maybe electrical rails for powering an electrical cart
#257 [00:33] <Kealper> Zemedelphos: not released yet, Jeb is making it
#258 [00:33] <Zemedelphos> meaning ready to be put into our client.
#259 [00:33] <Zemedelphos> Right
#260 [00:33] <Kealper> last i heard it was almost done
#261 [00:33] <arensirb> but you cant say what it is?
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#263 [00:33] <Kealper> i have not asked Jeb if it was done yet though
#264 [00:33] <Zemedelphos> I wanna get one of those block heads :(
#265 [00:33] <Zemedelphos> arensirb: they said what it is in the dev diary
#266 [00:33] <Kealper> i can say what this one is, Jeb already tweeted some info about it
#267 [00:34] <arensirb> Will we like it?
#268 [00:34] <Kealper> it's a redstone block that will let you do stuff like timers, and delays
#269 [00:34] <nevercast> I wanna be friends with Notch and get the low down on everything
#270 [00:34] <arensirb> ooh
#271 [00:34] <nevercast> Like Rolf and I used to.
#272 [00:34] <Zemedelphos> lol
#273 [00:34] <arensirb> That sounds good
#274 [00:34] <nevercast> Well Rolf didn't have much choice, I was reverse engineering his client for WOEmu.. So he thought he befriend me and keep me on his side :P
#275 [00:34] <Kealper> it can also act as a repeater, meaning it will save lots of space on big redstone projects
#276 [00:35] <arensirb> How come redstone only can go 15?
#277 [00:35] <nevercast> Kealper, You mean like a hub?
#278 [00:35] <Zemedelphos> now all we need to do is be able to program 1-block flip-flops, latches, inverters, and logic gates! :D
#279 [00:35] <nevercast> arensirb, Because someone dun goofed
#280 [00:35] <arensirb> Isnt that just a number in Notch's code?
#281 [00:35] <arensirb> cant be that hard to change?
#282 [00:35] <Zemedelphos> it's because
#283 [00:35] <Kealper> nevercast: just like two NOT gates put together
#284 [00:35] <Zemedelphos> each block of redstone keeps a charge
#285 [00:35] <Zemedelphos> the farther it is from the source
#286 [00:35] <Zemedelphos> the less charge it has
#287 [00:36] <Zemedelphos> iirc, right next to the source is 15
#288 [00:36] <arensirb> Oh sorry, I forgot minecraft is real world
#289 [00:36] <Zemedelphos> 16 blocks away is 0
#290 [00:36] <nevercast> Kealper, You mean Identity gates
#291 [00:36] <arensirb> :3
#292 [00:36] <Zemedelphos> I didn't say it was.
#293 [00:36] <Zemedelphos> after all
#294 [00:36] <Kealper> NOT gate, charge reverser
#295 [00:36] <Zemedelphos> no redstone in real life.
#296 [00:37] <arensirb> when I die, I wanna be put into a MC server
#297 [00:37] <arensirb> virtual world
#298 [00:37] <arensirb> : p
#299 [00:37] <nevercast> LOL
#300 [00:37] <Zemedelphos> You'll be dead though.
#301 [00:37] <arensirb> damn
#302 [00:37] <arensirb> yeah, but they will transfer ME into a computer
#303 [00:37] <Zemedelphos> Also, your corpse would probably break the circuitry
#304 [00:37] <Kealper> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:NOT_Gate_New.jpg
#305 [00:37] <arensirb> Kealper: A repeater
#306 [00:37] <Zemedelphos> Dead is dead, dude.
#307 [00:38] <Kealper> arensirb: a repeater is two of those NOT gates put together
#308 [00:38] <Zemedelphos> Sorry to say. :(
#309 [00:38] <arensirb> why is it called NOT?`
#310 [00:38] <Kealper> one by itself can act as a repeater, but it reverses the current in the process
#311 [00:38] <arensirb> its an inmverter, aint it?
#312 [00:38] <arensirb> -m
#313 [00:38] <Zemedelphos> Same thing
#314 [00:38] <Zemedelphos> because the charge it holds is NOT the charge the input holds
#315 [00:38] <Kealper> it's called a NOT because when it recieves power, the line it was powering is NOT powered
#316 [00:39] <arensirb> Kealper: bad explaining
#317 [00:39] <Zemedelphos> AKA. If A is 1 then B is NOT 1
#318 [00:39] <arensirb> Zemedelphos: Good explaining
#319 [00:39] <nevercast> A repeater
#320 [00:39] <Zemedelphos> AKA 0
#321 [00:39] <Kealper> yeah, Zemedelphos did it better
#322 [00:39] <nevercast> is called an Identity
#323 [00:39] <nevercast> A = B
#324 [00:39] <nevercast> Identity gate
#325 [00:39] <arensirb> I find some of the redstonestuff a little advanced
#326 [00:39] <Kealper> oh i thought you were calling the single gate an identity gate
#327 [00:40] <nevercast> lol
#328 [00:40] <Zemedelphos> Redstone gets very advanced.
#329 [00:40] <Kealper> a single NOT gate, that is
#330 [00:40] <nevercast> no no
#331 [00:40] <Kealper> i was like wtfbbq
#332 [00:40] <nevercast> a NOT gate is a NOT gate
#333 [00:40] <arensirb> but im off.. gonna watch 3 episodes of human target
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#336 [00:41] <nevercast> Kealper, Is there AND and OR gates?
#337 [00:41] <Kealper> yes
#338 [00:41] <nevercast> Really.. I like that :D
#339 [00:41] <nevercast> XOR?
#340 [00:41] <Kealper> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_circuitry
#341 [00:41] <Kealper> probably XOR, too
#342 [00:41] <nevercast> I'm going to try make a flashing light
#343 [00:41] <Kealper> you can do TONS of stuff in here
#344 [00:42] <nevercast> Using a wooden pressure pad and a door with water behind it
#345 [00:42] <nevercast> .. wait does water go through when door is open?
#346 [00:42] <Kealper> even simple 1-bit RAM with an RS NOR latch
#347 [00:42] <nevercast> Kealper, Latched RAM? Holy shit!
#348 [00:42] <Kealper> no
#349 [00:42] <nevercast> Kealper, Do you think he's implimenting wiremod for gmod :P
#350 [00:42] <Kealper> nevercast: you do know that people make CPUs in minecraft, right?
#351 [00:42] <nevercast> There'll be vertical thrustors and locators before you know it
#352 [00:43] <Kealper> and no, i doubt he is
#353 [00:43] <nevercast> Kealper, CPU's ? ha! wait how?
#354 [00:43] <nevercast> Kealper, actually query me
#355 [00:43] <nevercast> I'm going afk for a bit
#356 [00:43] <Zemedelphos> Nevercast: one sec
#357 [00:43] <nevercast> but will enjoy a good read when I return in about 10 minutes
#358 [00:43] <nevercast> Zemedelphos, Okay..
#359 [00:43] <Kealper> just youtube minecraft cpu
#360 [00:43] <Zemedelphos> Well, you're going off
#361 [00:43] <Zemedelphos> but I was gonna link you to the video
#362 [00:43] <peru> youtube - 16 bit alu
#363 [00:43] <Zemedelphos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sNge0Ywz-M
#364 [00:44] <Kealper> the guy that made that 16 bit alu actually finished the full cpu
#365 [00:44] <Kealper> with cache and everything iirc
#366 [00:44] <GV> and registers
#367 [00:44] <Zemedelphos> It's complicated as hell
#368 [00:44] <Zemedelphos> Also, in his CPU map
#369 [00:45] <Zemedelphos> if you put a torch on the 6 bit (numbered 0-15 from right to left) it reverses the display behind you, even if you don't set it to compute mode.
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#371 [00:52] <aetherian> dammit
#372 [00:52] <Wahrheit> Anyone know how to use CraftBook on hmod 134? I installed it and put in the signs for a bridge, but right clicking them doesn't work.
#373 [00:52] <aetherian> quit ruining my hopes and dreams windows
#374 [00:54] <Zemedelphos> ?
#375 [00:54] <Zemedelphos> What's up aether
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#377 [00:59] <Kealper> is it bad that i actually sort of want to learn ASM?
#378 [00:59] <relsqui> I hope not 8)
#379 [00:59] <relsqui> we learned a bit of machine code in a class I took once. that was fun.
#380 [01:00] <aetherian> for what processor
#381 [01:00] <Kealper> it honestly does sound a bit fun....because it's just so different from all these high level languages
#382 [01:00] * relsqui nods
#382 [01:00] <Kealper> x86 instruction set, ofc
#383 [01:01] <Kealper> imma go find myself a tutorial lol
#384 [01:01] <relsqui> woot. added two working train lines tonight
#385 [01:01] <Kealper> :o
#386 [01:01] <relsqui> only two more segments waiting to be connected
#387 [01:01] <relsqui> and then I get to decide if I want to REALLY go all out and connect the two hubs
#388 [01:01] <relsqui> (you can get from one to the other right now but you have to make two connections)
#389 [01:01] <Kealper> hmmm... MASM32...i'll bite
#390 [01:02] <aetherian> kealper: do hello world in machine code
#391 [01:02] <GV> ASM is actually pretty fun
#392 [01:02] <aetherian> and pastebin it
#393 [01:02] <GV> I took a couple of classes in it back in college, loved it
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#395 [01:03] <GV> Course, it was in RISC architecture, on SPARC.. but still
#396 [01:03] <aetherian> lul
#397 [01:04] <aetherian> I may ass myself to learn assembly some day
#398 [01:04] <Kealper> RISC ASM would be pretty neat, too...being able to hack an mp3 player to do some basic processing would be cool :o
#399 [01:04] <aetherian> but... if one writes a program in assembly, what do they use to compile/run it?
#400 [01:04] <Kealper> and most cheap mp3 players use a Z80 RISC cpu
#401 [01:05] <aetherian> hack yer ipod
#402 [01:05] <Kealper> those won't cut it
#403 [01:05] <Kealper> and it'd SUCK if you bricked it
#404 [01:05] <Kealper> far too expensive :/
#405 [01:05] <aetherian> why won't they cut it
#406 [01:05] <aetherian> I get the sucking part
#407 [01:05] <GV> !ping
#408 [01:05] <GreyBot> GV Your Ping time was 0.17 Seconds.
#409 [01:06] <Kealper> mostly just the sucking if you bricked it part
#410 [01:06] <aetherian> !PING
#411 [01:06] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.481 Seconds.
#412 [01:06] <aetherian> meh
#413 [01:06] <Kealper> i need an echo command for aubot
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#415 [01:06] <Kealper> so i can just tell it to echo !ping
#416 [01:06] <aetherian> I blame the fact I'm downloading linux for the 9001th time
#417 [01:08] <aetherian> >:
#418 [01:09] <aetherian> ah, it finished
#419 [01:09] <aetherian> hey, I'm gonna tick off my sister
#420 [01:09] <aetherian> brb
#421 [01:10] <aetherian> darn
#422 [01:10] <aetherian> I can;t
#423 [01:10] <aetherian> she's not on the internet
#424 [01:10] <Kealper> woh, the installer for MASM32 is pretty small
#425 [01:10] <aetherian> kealper: stop voiding warranties
#426 [01:10] <GV> Hmm, you could probably still hit up some college class websites..
#427 [01:10] <GV> for some ASM/programming stuff
#428 [01:11] <Kealper> google shall be my guide lol
#429 [01:11] <aetherian> :O
#430 [01:11] <aetherian> you're following in the steps of many IT workmen
#431 [01:11] <aetherian> !ping
#432 [01:11] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.4 Seconds.
#433 [01:11] <Kealper> i have a basic knowledge of how ASM works, what some of the basics do, and such, so i should not have too much trouble :o
#434 [01:11] * GV pokes kealper with
#434 [01:11] <GV> http://www.cse.msu.edu/~cse320/Examples/example30
#435 [01:11] <aetherian> wait... is ASM assembly?
#436 [01:11] <Kealper> (that, and i actually know how to RTFM -.-)
#437 [01:11] <GV> Yes aetherian
#438 [01:11] <aetherian> pfft
#439 [01:12] <aetherian> sissu
#440 [01:12] <aetherian> sissy
#441 [01:12] <GV> That should be pretty simple for you to decode Kealper .
#442 [01:12] <aetherian> write in machine code
#443 [01:12] <GV> Um, yeah.. right
#444 [01:12] <aetherian> ;)
#445 [01:12] <Kealper> it's just one step up from machine code
#446 [01:12] <GV> ASM already takes forever to write a simple function
#447 [01:12] <aetherian> I challenge you to do a hello world in machine code
#448 [01:12] <aetherian> :O
#449 [01:12] <Kealper> this installer is pretty epic
#450 [01:13] <aetherian> what are you installing again?
#451 [01:13] <GV> http://www.cse.msu.edu/~cse320/Examples/example31
#452 [01:13] <GV> Ah, memories.
#453 [01:13] <aetherian> wtf is with those registers
#454 [01:13] <aetherian> so angry
#455 [01:13] <aetherian> all like
#456 [01:14] <aetherian> ffffffffffffffff
#457 [01:14] * GV snerks
#457 [01:14] <Kealper> registers are one reason why i want to learn this lol
#458 [01:14] <Kealper> registers and stack
#459 [01:14] <aetherian> XD, rtfm on wikipedia is lul
#460 [01:14] <aetherian> not too lul though
#461 [01:14] <Kealper> since it's just so alien to me...i'm used to high level languages
#462 [01:15] * aetherian doesn't even really know what they do
#462 [01:15] <GV> It really isn't that different
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#464 [01:15] <aetherian> I understood... oh... just about nothing of that asm
#465 [01:15] <GV> Different syntax, but if you know the format, and the commands, it's pretty easy
#466 [01:15] <GV> Just time consuming to do everything in ASM
#467 [01:16] <GV> Once you start developing your own high level compiler, and converting stuff to ASM, that's when it starts getting fun
#468 [01:16] <aetherian> how... how do you know what FFS and DAMNS to put?
#469 [01:16] <aetherian> err
#470 [01:16] <aetherian> you know
#471 [01:16] <GV> O.o
#472 [01:16] <aetherian> the registers
#473 [01:16] <relsqui> anybody know the skeleton archers' range offhand?
#474 [01:17] <aetherian> it's over 9.000
#475 [01:17] <aetherian> :O
#476 [01:18] <Kealper> woh...MASM can do C-style things
#477 [01:18] <aetherian> hmmph
#478 [01:18] <aetherian> lolcode is better ;p
#479 [01:19] <Kealper> this will help greatly in using this lol
#480 [01:19] <Zemedelphos> Arrow range is based on angle and height.
#481 [01:20] <aetherian> kelly, what will you program first?
#482 [01:21] <Kealper> a hello world, in console output, ofc
#483 [01:22] <aetherian> nice
#484 [01:22] <aetherian> do it nao
#485 [01:22] * aetherian can do it quickly
#485 [01:22] <aetherian> (in a different language)
#486 [01:23] <aetherian> you ready?
#487 [01:23] <aetherian> I shall take that as a yes
#488 [01:23] <Kealper> yeah, want to see that in autoit?
#489 [01:23] <aetherian> print("Hello World")
#490 [01:23] <aetherian> and sure, kels
#491 [01:23] <Kealper> ConsoleWrite("Hello, World!" & @CRLF)
#492 [01:23] <Kealper> and you forgot your \r\n
#493 [01:24] <aetherian> \r\n?
#494 [01:24] <Kealper> newline characters?
#495 [01:24] <Kealper> .-.
#496 [01:24] <aetherian> I don't need a newline
#497 [01:24] <aetherian> pass the salt
#498 [01:25] <relsqui> does the protected zone around spawn continue vertically indefinitely?
#499 [01:25] <DopeGhoti> probably
#500 [01:25] <aetherian> aw snap g2g
#501 [01:25] <relsqui> hmmm :|
#502 [01:25] <relsqui> I'm trying to figure out how to have spawn be somewhere *useful*
#503 [01:30] * SinZ is away: Đ³ « sıиz ıs ашаy
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#504 [01:42] <nevercast> I have returned
#505 [01:43] <nevercast> and I'm AMAZED
#506 [01:43] <nevercast> at the CPU's
#507 [01:43] <nevercast> ... I wanna make one ^_^
#508 [01:43] <nevercast> think first thing I'll do is make a giant digital counter :D
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#510 [01:45] <aetherian> it is finally time
#511 [01:46] <aetherian> 10:45 pm thursday evening
#512 [01:46] <aetherian> it is time to start on that writing assignment I was given last week on wednesday
#513 [01:46] <aetherian> that is due in a couple days
#514 [01:46] * aetherian is away: don't ask
#514 [01:47] * aetherian probably interrupted a conversation or two
#514 [01:48] <nevercast> lol none
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#516 [01:48] <nevercast> it's so damn quiet
#517 [01:48] <nevercast> Hey DJJeff
#518 [01:48] <aetherian> ohhh
#519 [01:48] <aetherian> well then
#520 [01:48] <aetherian> I'll blather more
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#522 [01:48] <DJJeff> my minecraft screen goes black after a few seconds then says not responding
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#524 [01:49] <nevercast> DJJeff, When you're playing in game
#525 [01:49] <nevercast> or at the menu?
#526 [01:49] <DJJeff> in game
#527 [01:49] <DJJeff> it didnt use todo this
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#529 [01:49] <nevercast> What's the CPU and Memory usage?
#530 [01:49] <DJJeff> CPU @ 10%
#531 [01:49] <nevercast> Memory?
#532 [01:49] <aetherian> hey, has kells finished his SIMPLE program yet?
#533 [01:49] <DJJeff> Memory @ 3 GB out of 8 GB
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#535 [01:50] <nevercast> What's Minecraft using out of that?
#536 [01:51] <DJJeff> the server uses about 500 MB
#537 [01:51] <DJJeff> the client uses about 1 GB
#538 [01:51] <DJJeff> im deleteing everything in
#539 [01:51] <nevercast> WOW
#540 [01:51] <DJJeff> C:\Users\Jeffery Wilkins\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft
#541 [01:51] <nevercast> Okay good idea
#542 [01:51] <nevercast> also make sure
#543 [01:51] <nevercast> Java is up to date
#544 [01:51] <nevercast> and that your graphics drivers are up to date also
#545 [01:52] <aetherian> well we all know his name now
#546 [01:52] <nevercast> aetherian, I lol'd :P
#547 [01:52] <DJJeff> yes you do
#548 [01:52] <DJJeff> lol
#549 [01:52] <nevercast> aetherian, Do you have a server?
#550 [01:52] * aetherian haxxors djjeff
#550 [01:53] <nevercast> aetherian, and also, are you really doing some essay thing? or are you available?
#551 [01:53] <aetherian> nevercast: with the click of a button, I could turn it on
#552 [01:53] <aetherian> scratch that, the click of a couple buttons, it's saved in a different user
#553 [01:53] <DJJeff> I think deleteing the files in .minecraft fixed it
#554 [01:53] * aetherian SHOULD be doing the essay
#554 [01:53] <nevercast> DJJeff, Usually does.
#555 [01:53] <nevercast> DJJeff, Let it run for 5 minutes
#556 [01:53] <aetherian> but feth that
#557 [01:53] <nevercast> let us know in that time if it's fixed
#558 [01:53] <DJJeff> and about my name.... I have a website that has my name in the domain so
#559 [01:53] <DJJeff> ya
#560 [01:54] <nevercast> I was just going to Facebook stalk you Jeff
#561 [01:54] <aetherian> jefferryyyy
#562 [01:54] <nevercast> Then find your mum
#563 [01:54] <nevercast> mothers are foolish
#564 [01:54] <nevercast> find out where you live
#565 [01:54] <nevercast> then send you cookies with arsinic :)
#566 [01:54] <DJJeff> I live in Vancouver BC
#567 [01:54] * aetherian sends him N2O
#567 [01:54] <DJJeff> CANADA
#568 [01:54] <nevercast> Postal Code, and Address please?
#569 [01:54] <DJJeff> V5V 4C1
#570 [01:54] <nevercast> Street name and suburb?
#571 [01:54] <aetherian> laugh it up mate
#572 [01:54] <DJJeff> GL sending me Fail Mail
#573 [01:55] * aetherian just made a joke
#573 [01:55] <DJJeff> cause I dont have a mailbox
#574 [01:55] <nevercast> lol.
#575 [01:55] * aetherian invites people to laugh
#575 [01:55] <nevercast> aetherian, Can you fire up your server than inv edit me some redstone
#576 [01:55] <nevercast> aetherian, I want to try my luck and a giant digital clock
#577 [01:55] <nevercast> *at a
#578 [01:55] <aetherian> nevercast: I'm not sure you want to do that, but sure.
#579 [01:55] <nevercast> aetherian, why not?
#580 [01:55] <aetherian> we'll see
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#582 [01:56] <fogWraith> Good morrow!
#583 [01:56] <DJJeff> can anyone from the west coast (pst) try and connect to my server please?
#584 [01:56] <DJJeff> IP: jefferywilkins.com:9010
#585 [01:56] <aetherian> hang on a sec
#586 [01:56] <aetherian> I gotta copy all this over to my user
#587 [01:56] <aetherian> and the world file is the huge
#588 [01:56] <aetherian> *teh huge
#589 [01:57] <aetherian> ;)
#590 [01:57] <aetherian> arrgh
#591 [01:57] <aetherian> hang on
#592 [01:57] * aetherian is so on top of things
#592 [01:58] * SinZ is back (gone 00:27:24)
#592 [01:58] <fogWraith> DJJeff, I tried, for fun, it worked :P
#593 [01:59] <aetherian> loading a world
#594 [01:59] <aetherian> new world
#595 [01:59] <fogWraith> Nice trees
#596 [01:59] <DJJeff> I have too many trees
#597 [01:59] <DJJeff> I need to turn my graphics from "fancy" to "fast"
#598 [01:59] <fogWraith> ;O
#599 [01:59] <DJJeff> I kinda want a map generator that can make me a really really flat map
#600 [02:00] <aetherian> nevercast
#601 [02:00] <aetherian> you want it in the nether, amirite?
#602 [02:00] <aetherian> nevercast
#603 [02:00] <aetherian> join
#604 [02:00] <aetherian> there're animals, no monsters
#605 [02:01] <nevercast> one sec
#606 [02:01] * aetherian waits
#606 [02:01] <aetherian> grumble grumble
#607 [02:01] <aetherian> hurry up
#608 [02:01] <nevercast> dude
#609 [02:01] <nevercast> i had to answer the phone
#610 [02:01] <nevercast> right
#611 [02:01] <nevercast> ip?
#612 [02:01] * AuBot kicked nevercast from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
#613 [02:02] <aetherian> lmao
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#615 [02:02] <aetherian> lul
#616 [02:02] <nevercast> ..
#617 [02:02] * nevercast hits AuBot with a large cock
#617 [02:02] <nevercast> Right.. IP?
#618 [02:02] * aetherian congratulates aubot
#618 [02:02] <aetherian> nevercast: you can figure that out on yer own
#619 [02:02] <nevercast> aetherian, He didn't retort to me because he was comatose
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#621 [02:03] <nevercast> hrr de hrr
#622 [02:04] <DJJeff> I love my i7 CPU X_X
#623 [02:04] <DJJeff> just sucks that it cant handle fancy minecraft gfx
#624 [02:04] <DJJeff> with this many trees
#625 [02:04] <fogWraith> Worked fine here
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#627 [02:04] <fogWraith> I have much less power on this particular machine ;P
#628 [02:05] <DJJeff> my gfx card is a DDR2 1GB PCI-E
#629 [02:05] <DJJeff> GeForce GT220
#630 [02:05] <DJJeff> thats probley what sucks
#631 [02:05] <frogaincia> i cant seem to run the free portion of minecraft? is my computer missing something?
#632 [02:06] <frogaincia> hello?
#633 [02:06] <fogWraith> <- GF 9100
#634 [02:06] <fogWraith> What happens when you try it, frogaincia ?
#635 [02:07] <frogaincia> i get a black box and a window pops up
#636 [02:07] <frogaincia> let me read what it says so I can tell you
#637 [02:07] <GV> Can you pastebin.comit?
#638 [02:07] <frogaincia> it says that the application failed to run
#639 [02:07] <DJJeff> here is my ummmm
#640 [02:07] <DJJeff> task manager
#641 [02:07] <DJJeff> http://screencast.com/t/X4MSYuhQUX
#642 [02:08] <frogaincia> is that a java problem?
#643 [02:08] <GV> frogaincia - Can you give us a screenshot or something of the error?
#644 [02:08] <frogaincia> ill see what i can do
#645 [02:10] <frogaincia> it gave me this as the error
#646 [02:10] <frogaincia> Exception: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initialize class javax.crypto.SunJCE_b
#647 [02:10] <frogaincia> should i download java again?
#648 [02:10] <GV> How are you starting minecraft?
#649 [02:11] <frogaincia> i wanted to try it before i bought it so im clicking on the minecraft classic single player link
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#651 [02:12] <frogaincia> i dont wanna have problems when i buy it
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#655 [02:13] <aetherian> kgo, nevercast
#656 [02:13] <GV> Hmm, yeah, try updating java
#657 [02:13] <nevercast> aetherian, roger
#658 [02:13] <aetherian> try bob
#659 [02:13] <aetherian> not roger
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#661 [02:13] <frogaincia> ok, thanks for the help =)
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#664 [02:26] <aetherian> shet
#665 [02:26] <aetherian> how do I get rid of adminium/bedrock
#666 [02:27] <nevercast> because he gone spawned some on my clock :P
#667 [02:28] * aetherian fails it
#667 [02:28] <aetherian> k go on
#668 [02:28] <aetherian> it should be fix'd
#669 [02:28] <aetherian> ...somewhat
#670 [02:30] <nevercast> you mean you reset the map
#671 [02:30] <nevercast> lolol
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#676 [02:35] <killking72> anybody care to help me build some stuff in my city?
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#679 [02:57] <aetherian> !ping
#680 [02:57] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.16 Seconds.
#681 [02:57] <aetherian> pwned
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#683 [03:03] <Kaikz> !ping
#684 [03:03] <GreyBot> Kaikz Your Ping time was 0.701 Seconds.
#685 [03:03] <Kaikz> yay for bad internet.
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#688 [03:05] <Sqozza> !ping
#689 [03:05] <GreyBot> Sqozza Your Ping time was 0.58 Seconds.
#690 [03:05] <Sqozza> :<
#691 [03:05] <Sqozza> !ping
#692 [03:05] <GreyBot> Sqozza Your Ping time was 0.581 Seconds.
#693 [03:05] <Sqozza> Goddamnit.
#694 [03:05] <nevercast> aetherian, The fucker killed me
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#698 [03:07] <Ashibayai> How do i solve the binary whatever problem with java?
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#700 [03:09] <GV> Ashibayai - ?
#701 [03:10] <fogWraith> !ping
#702 [03:10] <GreyBot> fogWraith Your Ping time was 0.22 Seconds.
#703 [03:10] <fogWraith> :|
#704 [03:11] <GV> Pfft, that's pretty good, considering I just started up some torrents on that box
#705 [03:11] <fogWraith> So that's why! ;)
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#708 [03:12] <GV> !weather dc
#709 [03:12] <GreyBot> GV: From Eckington Pl, NE, Washington, District of Columbia (3:12a Feb 11 11) temp(27.0 F / -2.8 C, feels like 27 F / -3 C) cond(Clear) wind(South at 3.0 mph / 4.8 km/h) hu(53%) dewpnt(12 F / -11 C) bp(30.18 in / 1021.9 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#710 [03:12] <GreyBot> Rest of the Overnight: Clear. Lows around 17. Southwest winds around 5 mph.
#711 [03:13] <fogWraith> So, enlighten me... are you on vacation or something? Still haven't figured out the multiple Vulpines, or did you make like a cell and split? :P
#712 [03:13] <GV> vacation
#713 [03:13] <fogWraith> Nice stuff
#714 [03:13] <GV> Bleh
#715 [03:13] <GV> I wish I was home instead.
#716 [03:13] <fogWraith> But then, vacation and hanging out in here
#717 [03:14] <GV> It's the "Vacation", but really, visiting family, and trying not to 'splode
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#719 [03:15] <fogWraith> Ah, I have my family a few blocks away from me, how it turned out like that I do not know
#720 [03:15] <GV> Heh, that must drive you bonkers.
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#722 [03:16] <fogWraith> Mm, yeah, especially since my father is somewhat of a janitor with keys to pretty much all the buildings in a radius of holyshit
#723 [03:16] <GV> O.o
#724 [03:16] <GV> Oh joy..
#725 [03:18] <fogWraith> Joy? :P
#726 [03:19] <GV> Um, "jumping out yon" window?
#727 [03:19] <fogWraith> Sounds delightful, but it's about -20C outside
#728 [03:20] <GV> Pfft
#729 [03:20] <fogWraith> I wouldn't want to end up immobilized when it's that cold outside
#730 [03:20] <GV> Builds character
#731 [03:20] <fogWraith> I did some "character building" like that when I was younger
#732 [03:20] <fogWraith> Cracked the bones in my right foot, -37C outside
#733 [03:21] <GV> Heh! Ouch.
#734 [03:21] <fogWraith> Well, it was either jump out the window or let the thugs get me :P
#735 [03:21] <fogWraith> Damn bullies
#736 [03:21] <GV> Pah on them
#737 [03:22] <fogWraith> Indeed!
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#739 [03:23] <fogWraith> They felt bad afterwards though, and as any child back then doing something horrendously stupid like jumping out a window, I was considered to be awesome (for a few weeks)
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#742 [03:24] <GV> Hah, I guess that counts for something
#743 [03:25] <fogWraith> Mm, yes, the crutches weren't as fun though :|
#744 [03:26] <GV> Usually never are.
#745 [03:26] <OODavo> !check gigahard.mine.nu
#746 [03:26] <fogWraith> O_o
#747 [03:26] <OODavo> Yay. Thanks, AuBot. :)
#748 [03:27] <Sqozza> Fucking thanks, AuBot
#749 [03:27] <Sqozza> AuBot fucking
#750 [03:27] <Sqozza> :3
#751 [03:27] <OODavo> AuBot is awesome.
#752 [03:27] <Sqozza> AuBot is odd.
#753 [03:28] <Sqozza> AuBot: Cumquat
#754 [03:28] <Sqozza> :D
#755 [03:29] <OODavo> Sqozza: They're called "kumquats", no?
#756 [03:30] <Sqozza> OODavo, yes.
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#758 [03:35] <nevercast> aetherian, Just after you said OH CRAP.. my computer froze
#759 [03:35] <nevercast> aetherian, What'd you do?
#760 [03:35] <aetherian> uhh
#761 [03:35] <aetherian> nothing
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#763 [03:39] <starwiz> Hm, so, I'm on linux, and when I run Minecraft it crashes. I run it via the command line and get the following Java error: http://pastebin.com/tQKtKSkr
#764 [03:39] <starwiz> Any ideas?
#765 [03:40] <starwiz> Also Java is fully updated, and I've tried reinstalling.
#766 [03:40] <nevercast> aetherian, joining soon
#767 [03:40] <aetherian> kk
#768 [03:40] <starwiz> I also had it working before, but I reinstalled my OS and it doesn't work now.
#769 [03:40] <fogWraith> starwiz, update or reinstall Java
#770 [03:40] <starwiz> fogWraith, I've done that many times.
#771 [03:41] <nevercast> starwiz, You're using OpenJDK.. I've not had problems with it but are you using 64bit?? try using Oracle ( Sun ) java instead
#772 [03:41] <starwiz> Yeah I am using 64 bit and I tried it to, didn't work.
#773 [03:42] <fogWraith> Sun-java6-jre is most likely the one you want
#774 [03:42] <fogWraith> Might need to enable some weird repository if not already in there
#775 [03:44] <starwiz> Yeah I downladed that one too.
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#777 [03:44] <starwiz> Still no luck
#778 [03:44] <Warwolt> Hi.
#779 [03:45] <fogWraith> It doesn't seem to use Sun's JRE, did you switch them per chance?
#780 [03:45] <Warwolt> If I run into the Open GL problem, but only when I run the client and not when I run the browser. What could be the problem?
#781 [03:45] <starwiz> Well I switched them, then reinstalled it, then switched back to openjdk
#782 [03:45] <fogWraith> alternatives --config java
#783 [03:45] <fogWraith> Select Sun's JRE
#784 [03:46] <fogWraith> Profit
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#786 [03:47] <arensirb> Does anyone know why it bugs when i change from fullscreen to windowed?
#787 [03:47] <arensirb> it wont let me click anymore
#788 [03:47] <arensirb> in inventory etc
#789 [03:47] <fogWraith> Switch back to fullscreen
#790 [03:47] <arensirb> Doesnt help afaik
#791 [03:47] <fogWraith> It's a general notchcode bug
#792 [03:48] <arensirb> Can test after sleep
#793 [03:48] <arensirb> *yawn*
#794 [03:48] <arensirb> 10 am.. damn
#795 [03:48] <Warwolt> If I run into the Open GL problem, but only when I run the client and not when I run the browser. What could be the problem?
#796 [03:49] <fogWraith> Update video drivers? Update Java?
#797 [03:49] <fogWraith> Assign more RAM to the client?
#798 [03:49] <Warwolt> But I can run it in the browser so the video drivers obviosly work?
#799 [03:49] <fogWraith> Got onboard graphics, btw?
#800 [03:49] <Warwolt> yes
#801 [03:49] <fogWraith> Ah
#802 [03:50] <Warwolt> laptop
#803 [03:50] <fogWraith> Well, launching it with the RAM parameters might help
#804 [03:50] <fogWraith> Did for me, but, yeah
#805 [03:51] <nevercast> aetherian, Give me some lava lol.. I'll remove water and burn him
#806 [03:51] <starwiz> Yeah, so again, sun java didn't work
#807 [03:51] <starwiz> It crashes while generating a map
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#809 [03:54] <Warwolt> how do I launch it with RAM parameters?
#810 [03:55] <Warwolt> If you can't bother wiriting it up, maybe you know what to google for?
#811 [03:56] <fogWraith> Ah, when you download the client, there are some parameters on the page you get the client from
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#813 [03:56] <fogWraith> You can put those in a .bat or .cmd file and launch it that way
#814 [03:59] <Warwolt> hm, do you mean the download page or some page on my drive?
#815 [04:00] <starwiz> THe download page
#816 [04:04] <Warwolt> hm, I can only see links to download!
#817 [04:04] <Warwolt> do you mean the linux part?
#818 [04:05] <GV> Yes
#819 [04:05] <GV> If you download the .jar under the linux heading, you can use the example command line there to modify it using whatever RAM allocation your computer is compatible with
#820 [04:08] <Warwolt> thanks, I'll try i <3
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#822 [04:12] <Warwolt> how do I add the command line?
#823 [04:18] <OODavo> !check gigahard.mine.nu
#824 [04:18] <OODavo> Still working. Good. Thanks, AuBot.
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#827 [04:22] <nevercast> ROFL
#828 [04:22] <nevercast> Just as I disconnect aetherian
#829 [04:22] <nevercast> The flashing yellow slogan says "Bringing home the bacon"
#830 [04:22] <nevercast> I lol'd
#831 [04:22] <aetherian> lmao
#832 [04:22] <aetherian> connect
#833 [04:22] <aetherian> no wait
#834 [04:22] <aetherian> don't
#835 [04:23] <aetherian> log on now
#836 [04:24] <TheReddeH> i cant connect :(
#837 [04:24] <aetherian> what
#838 [04:24] <aetherian> not talking to you
#839 [04:25] <TheReddeH> still.. i cnt connect ;p
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#841 [04:27] <nevercast> nigh aetherian
#842 [04:27] <aetherian> no fun nevercast
#843 [04:27] <aetherian> you disconnected
#844 [04:27] <aetherian> I was gonna kick you
#845 [04:27] <nevercast> You said disconnect :P
#846 [04:27] <nevercast> I disconnnected
#847 [04:27] <nevercast> My computer sucks at playing the game
#848 [04:27] <nevercast> but one thing it can do quickly
#849 [04:27] <nevercast> is DC
#850 [04:27] <aetherian> I was gonna kick you
#851 [04:27] <nevercast> ( Sometimes does it without asking )
#852 [04:27] <nevercast> lol.
#853 [04:27] <aetherian> ...
#854 [04:27] <aetherian> nuf said
#855 [04:27] <aetherian> night guys
#856 [04:27] <nevercast> night mate.
#857 [04:28] * aetherian is procrastinator extraordinaire
#857 [04:28] <aetherian> kealper, I may ask you to ban me tomorrow for a day so I can actually get work done
#858 [04:28] <aetherian> I'll get back to you on that
#859 [04:28] * aetherian says good bye to aubot
#859 [04:29] * aetherian hugs aubot
#859 [04:29] * aetherians scratches aubot
#859 [04:29] <aetherians> lovely
#860 [04:29] <aetherians> I like it
#861 [04:29] <aetherians> backscratcher
#862 [04:30] <aetherians> and remember, if it can fly, it's probably not a toilet.
#863 [04:30] <aetherians> k
#864 [04:30] <aetherians> thx
#865 [04:30] <aetherians> bye
#866 [04:30] * AuBot kicked aetherians from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please do not spam the channel. Your ban will be lifted in about 5 seconds.)
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#872 [04:49] <Draglems1> Hi, Does adding objects to a world increase its size?
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#874 [04:53] <nevercast> Draglems1, Yes
#875 [04:53] <Draglems1> Then how come http://i56.tinypic.com/51o5n6.jpg is still only 1mb?
#876 [04:53] <Draglems1> >_<
#877 [04:54] <nevercast> Draglems1, Because those objects probably use next to no memory
#878 [04:54] <nevercast> Draglems1, They are just torches
#879 [04:55] <nevercast> Probably like 20 bytes each
#880 [04:55] <Draglems1> Ah
#881 [04:55] <Draglems1> xD.
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#883 [05:03] <Roenie> money sucks
#884 [05:04] <Roenie> i'd burn it all if i could, not give it away, for it is poison
#885 [05:04] <Roenie> i have dreams that are more real than pieces paper with a $ sign on t
#886 [05:05] <Roenie> my shit is worth more than 1000 euro
#887 [05:05] <Roenie> it can firtilize land, whereas a coin cannot
#888 [05:06] <Draglems1> ^?
#889 [05:06] <Roenie> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
#890 [05:07] <Roenie> don't believe everything though
#891 [05:07] <Roenie> but the core message is real
#892 [05:08] <Draglems1> I'm a idiot.
#893 [05:08] <Draglems1> I put torches everywhere in my house.
#894 [05:08] <Draglems1> = attract mobs.
#895 [05:08] <Draglems1> = Me doomed...
#896 [05:08] <Roenie> how else would you stop them from spawning in the dark?
#897 [05:09] <Roenie> dig a moat around your house, add flowing water leading to a lava trap
#898 [05:09] <Draglems1> ?..
#899 [05:09] <Draglems1> How exactly..?
#900 [05:09] <Roenie> youtube is your friend
#901 [05:09] <Draglems1> Not when you can't watch youtube C:.
#902 [05:10] <Roenie> your colleague is your enemy
#903 [05:10] <Draglems1> ?
#904 [05:10] <Roenie> when you can't watch youtube, you fix it
#905 [05:10] <Draglems1> I could watch it.
#906 [05:10] <Draglems1> but I have to save my internet, its limited C:.
#907 [05:11] <Roenie> what are you in china?
#908 [05:11] <Roenie> :P
#909 [05:11] <Draglems1> No, England.
#910 [05:11] <Draglems1> I don't have land-line.
#911 [05:11] <TheReddeH> thats so 1985
#912 [05:11] <Draglems1> or anything, Its wireless pay as you go type thing.
#913 [05:11] <Roenie> Devon huh
#914 [05:11] <Draglems1> No. Cornwall/Bodmin
#915 [05:11] <Roenie> whatever!
#916 [05:11] <Roenie> :-)
#917 [05:11] <Draglems1> Whatever! My pokemon are weak!
#918 [05:12] <Roenie> youtube is a necessity for life, if you play mc
#919 [05:12] <Draglems1> okay, okay i'll watch the video >_<
#920 [05:12] <Draglems1> ..Just dunno what to search
#921 [05:12] <TheReddeH> search for how to buy a landline
#922 [05:13] <Draglems1> Please, Would you be more rude somewhere else?
#923 [05:13] <Roenie> why don't you get satellite internet?
#924 [05:13] <Roenie> search "mob trap +lava" or something
#925 [05:13] <TheReddeH> i am more rude somewhere else
#926 [05:13] <Draglems1> Because I don't REALLY want to be on a contract having to keep paying every few months for amount of internet, I'm quite happy with what I've got, 7GB for �25 a month, I'm happy with it, I don't want any other internet.
#927 [05:14] <TheReddeH> =\
#928 [05:14] <Roenie> wow that's a lot of money for a few GB
#929 [05:14] <TheReddeH> thats like 1,5 hours worth of internet every month :x
#930 [05:14] <Roenie> that is a rip off
#931 [05:14] <TheReddeH> ;p
#932 [05:14] <Draglems1> No its not
#933 [05:15] <Draglems1> It lasts around 20+ days.
#934 [05:15] <Draglems1> C:
#935 [05:15] <TheReddeH> it will take you 2 months and 50 pounds to dlownload 1 hd movie?!@
#936 [05:15] <Roenie> i pay that and it's unlimited
#937 [05:15] <Draglems1> Er..
#938 [05:15] <Roenie> ok slightly more
#939 [05:15] <TheReddeH> yeah me too =\
#940 [05:15] <Draglems1> I don't want to download a movie.
#941 [05:15] <Roenie> you're still paying for movies
#942 [05:16] <Draglems1> So?
#943 [05:16] <Roenie> i mean, you are overpaying
#944 [05:16] <Draglems1> I'd rather buy it for �10+ other than 25+
#945 [05:16] <TheReddeH> england is more primitieve that i thought ;p
#946 [05:16] <Draglems1> Look, I'm just 12 years old, I don't fully understand my internet, So I could be making a mistake >_<..
#947 [05:16] <Draglems1> I don't think age has to do with it >_<, Please call me a Pipsqueek.
#948 [05:16] <Roenie> yes you are
#949 [05:16] <TheReddeH> pipsqueek!
#950 [05:17] <Roenie> no land line-->go satellite
#951 [05:17] <Draglems1> Wait.
#952 [05:18] <Draglems1> Is three.co.uk boardband land line? >_<
#953 [05:18] <Draglems1> its wireless >_<
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#955 [05:18] <GV> Easy guys, if Draglems1 wants to go with a prepaid 'net plan, then that's his decision
#956 [05:18] <GV> Also, satellite sucks.
#957 [05:18] <Draglems1> Thanks.
#958 [05:19] <Draglems1> I don't remember alot of my internet, I can't remember what it is or whatever its mean't to be
#959 [05:19] <Draglems1> All i know is its wireless moderm.
#960 [05:20] <GV> What is the company name?
#961 [05:20] <TheReddeH> sorry GV it just boggles the mind some1 pays that much for so little -=\
#962 [05:20] <GV> Really, it's not something you have to worry about.
#963 [05:20] <GV> If you think that's bad, try australia
#964 [05:20] <Roenie> <GV> Also, satellite sucks. <-- sucks less than ISDN which is what you'll be using without a land line as an alternative
#965 [05:20] <Draglems1> Three
#966 [05:21] <Draglems1> or "3"
#967 [05:21] <GV> ISDN also requires a land line, two actually
#968 [05:21] <Draglems1> Three.co.uk/
#969 [05:21] <Roenie> err yes
#970 [05:21] <Draglems1> 7gb is alot.
#971 [05:21] <Draglems1> You just need to know how to use it
#972 [05:21] <Draglems1> To you, it would be little.
#973 [05:21] <Roenie> i was expecting he means cable
#974 [05:21] <Roenie> everyone in the UK has a phone line right
#975 [05:21] <Draglems1> No.
#976 [05:21] <Draglems1> Most.
#977 [05:21] <GV> Look, there's ISPs in australia still, that have a monthly cap of 20-25 gigs
#978 [05:21] <Draglems1> I don't.
#979 [05:21] <Roenie> wow
#980 [05:22] <GV> And that's NOT prepaid
#981 [05:22] <TheReddeH> crap i was thinking about moving there :(
#982 [05:22] <GV> Yeah, good luck with that
#983 [05:22] <Roenie> lekker rustig TheReddeH
#984 [05:22] <Draglems1> + My internet isn't god.
#985 [05:22] <Draglems1> Its nice to HAVE internet.
#986 [05:22] <Roenie> xD
#987 [05:23] <GV> Not to mention, the nice gaming censorship there
#988 [05:23] <Roenie> afk
#989 [05:23] <Draglems1> sure, it takes around 1-2 minutes for a 5min+ video to load..
#990 [05:23] <Draglems1> but thats fine for me.
#991 [05:24] * GV nods
#991 [05:24] <TheReddeH> i guess you have more of a life than we do ;p
#992 [05:24] <Draglems1> ...Actually..
#993 [05:24] <Draglems1> You're wrong..
#994 [05:24] <Draglems1> ..Lets say.. I sleep all day..
#995 [05:25] <Draglems1> Its 10:24AM now, I'm going sleep in a few hours or soon.
#996 [05:25] <Draglems1> i won't wake up till 10PM+.
#997 [05:25] <TheReddeH> =\
#998 [05:25] <TheReddeH> at least your video will be loaded
#999 [05:26] <GV> Ah, 3.co.uk is mobile broadband, meaning it goes over cellular.
#1000 [05:26] <TheReddeH> like 4g?
#1001 [05:26] <TheReddeH> or 3g
#1002 [05:26] <GV> 3g in this case
#1003 [05:27] <Draglems1> ?
#1004 [05:27] <GV> Cell network Draglems1.
#1005 [05:27] <Draglems1> You can have diffrent amounts of internet.
#1006 [05:27] <TheReddeH> heh id like 5 internets pelase!
#1007 [05:27] <Draglems1> 1gb, 3gb, 5gb and 7gb if i recall : o
#1008 [05:27] <GV> O.o
#1009 [05:27] <GV> No, no, 4g = 4th generation
#1010 [05:27] <Draglems1> Now, if you say 7gb isn't alot for �25..
#1011 [05:27] <Draglems1> Say that to 1gb :D
#1012 [05:27] <GV> 3g, 3rd generation
#1013 [05:27] <Draglems1> 1gb = �10!
#1014 [05:28] <TheReddeH> i have unlimited 3g on my phone for 10 euros a month =\
#1015 [05:28] <Draglems1> ^
#1016 [05:28] <GV> unlimited, or "unlimited"?
#1017 [05:28] <Draglems1> Can we change the topic?
#1018 [05:29] <Draglems1> To.. Pokemon : D
#1019 [05:29] <TheReddeH> yeah lets talk about tomatoes
#1020 [05:29] * GV disappears
#1020 [05:29] * TheReddeH vanishes
#1020 [05:29] <Draglems1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T79FCbnygb8
#1021 [05:30] <Draglems1> Do fences keep mobs out?
#1022 [05:30] <TheReddeH> yes but not arrows ;p
#1023 [05:31] <Draglems1> ?
#1024 [05:31] <Draglems1> Oh right
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#1026 [05:31] <Draglems1> arrows are no problem
#1027 [05:31] <Draglems1> I'll fight arrow with arro- wait what about spiders.
#1028 [05:32] <TheReddeH> dont know now they can climb walls
#1029 [05:33] <Draglems1> FFS WHY IS MC SO LAGG
#1030 [05:33] <Draglems1> Y
#1031 [05:33] <TheReddeH> do you really want me to answer that :>
#1032 [05:33] <Draglems1> JAVA.
#1033 [05:33] <GV> I once had to deal with people connecting from australia in a business setting, with ADSL2+, max cap of 20gig a month, which dropped down to dial up speeds after that, and got packet shaped.
#1034 [05:33] <GV> http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc/isp-311-3/infinite-networks-adsl2.htm
#1035 [05:33] <GV> That's just one plan.
#1036 [05:33] <TheReddeH> lagg usually means slow internetconnection ;)
#1037 [05:34] <TheReddeH> gv ur from australia?
#1038 [05:34] <GV> No, one of my previous jobs, I used to contract for a CDN.
#1039 [05:35] <TheReddeH> holy cwap what kind of prices are those o_O
#1040 [05:35] <GV> Distributing content, looking at speeds of people connecting from around the world
#1041 [05:35] <GV> I felt sorry for the people from australia
#1042 [05:35] <TheReddeH> i do too now ;p
#1043 [05:35] <Draglems1> do Mobs only come
#1044 [05:35] <Draglems1> the next night?
#1045 [05:35] <GV> Hostile mobs only spawn in darkness
#1046 [05:35] <Draglems1> turn easy on when its night..do they still come out?
#1047 [05:35] <TheReddeH> no they spawn in any dark areas at any time
#1048 [05:36] <TheReddeH> on peacefull they dont spawn
#1049 [05:36] <Draglems1> i turned it off.
#1050 [05:36] <Draglems1> Just waiting for the motherfuckers..
#1051 [05:36] <Draglems1> I swear to god, if i die, I'ma be REALLY pisse-
#1052 [05:36] <Draglems1> brb.
#1053 [05:36] <Draglems1> good time to think about McEdit now.
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#1055 [05:37] <TheReddeH> http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc/isp-787-9/broadband-solutions-ethernet.htm
#1056 [05:37] <TheReddeH> lol
#1057 [05:37] <TheReddeH> those prices are literally 20 times hoigher than over here
#1058 [05:37] * GV whistles
#1058 [05:38] <TheReddeH> wtf $90 for every gb access
#1059 [05:38] <Draglems1> I got such a shitty castle T-T.
#1060 [05:38] <TheReddeH> excess*
#1061 [05:39] <Draglems1> think i see a creeper
#1062 [05:40] <Draglems1> but it might just be a leaf..
#1063 [05:41] <Draglems1> i see a spider! :D
#1064 [05:42] <Draglems1> BAM, it couldn't take it! Its down!
#1065 [05:43] <TheReddeH> ..
#1066 [05:43] <Draglems1> Hardly any mobs.. Must be in my house.
#1067 [05:44] <Draglems1> How do you get flaming arrows?
#1068 [05:45] <GV> fire through lava
#1069 [05:45] <TheReddeH> use flint on the arrows
#1070 [05:45] <Draglems1> ?
#1071 [05:45] <Draglems1> How do you use flint on them?
#1072 [05:45] <TheReddeH> just like using milk on the cookies
#1073 [05:46] <Draglems1> ?
#1074 [05:46] <Draglems1> You dunk them in a cup of milk?
#1075 [05:46] <TheReddeH> no a bucket
#1076 [05:46] <Draglems1> I've never used a bucket on a cow.
#1077 [05:47] <Draglems1> How the fuck did a sheep get on the top of my castle?
#1078 [05:48] <TheReddeH> bbl have a lunch appointment
#1079 [05:51] <Draglems1> Hooray, i survived my first night.
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#1084 [06:03] <Draglems1> wtf?
#1085 [06:03] <Draglems1> Armour is USELESS..
#1086 [06:03] <Draglems1> Didn't help me at all.
#1087 [06:03] <Draglems1> spider came, hit me and it did 2-3 hearts.
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#1090 [06:26] <nevercast> Making a clock in Minecraft isn't easy
#1091 [06:27] <Elvang> You mean via redstone circuits?
#1092 [06:28] <Elvang> .minecraft
#1093 [06:28] <MCHelpBot> Thank you
#1094 [06:29] <nevercast> Elvang, Yeah
#1095 [06:29] <nevercast> Just making the 7 segment display is a bitch
#1096 [06:29] <Elvang> lol, I bet
#1097 [06:29] <Elvang> No mods?
#1098 [06:29] <nevercast> none
#1099 [06:30] <Elvang> What are you going to use for the display?
#1100 [06:31] <Elvang> AFAIK, there isn't really a way to create something that changes like that... maybe via a water flow updating?
#1101 [06:32] <nevercast> Elvang, What you mean?
#1102 [06:32] <Elvang> The water flow updating bit?
#1103 [06:32] <nevercast> Elvang, Using torches for display.. It's crap.
#1104 [06:32] <Elvang> Ah
#1105 [06:32] <nevercast> Idk how to do water flow updating
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#1107 [06:33] <Elvang> You make a water source at the end of a trench, and it drains to the other side of the trench. If you then dig a different path for it, it will take it if you cause it to update
#1108 [06:34] <Elvang> Bad explanation, there's info on it somewhere in the wiki :\
#1109 [06:35] <nevercast> How do you get it to dig via red stone?
#1110 [06:35] <nevercast> you can't can you?
#1111 [06:36] <Elvang> I meant using a changing water source for each segment, the paths for the water would already be dug
#1112 [06:36] <BarryCarlyon> Does that mean people have figured out a way to control water that is reusable easily?
#1113 [06:38] <Elvang> Just going off what I've seen on the wiki, haven't tried it out personally
#1114 [06:38] <BarryCarlyon> got the link?
#1115 [06:38] <Elvang> Looking for it
#1116 [06:38] <Elvang> Can't remember what I was researching when I came across it :\
#1117 [06:38] <BarryCarlyon> Thanks :-D
#1118 [06:38] <BarryCarlyon> There was a page descirbed some ways, but they were all non resuable
#1119 [06:39] <BarryCarlyon> Its a shame water can't flow thru a open door, (tho you can get boats thru doubles doors).
#1120 [06:39] <Szernex> where does the minecraft server store the map file on linux-systems?
#1121 [06:39] <BarryCarlyon> I have a nice water lock system on my server with actual up down setps.
#1122 [06:39] <BarryCarlyon> Szernex: same directory as the server laucnher
#1123 [06:39] <Szernex> Strange
#1124 [06:40] <BarryCarlyon> in world or whatever you called the folder in server.properties
#1125 [06:40] <Szernex> I completely erased the server-folder, "reinstalled" it and I still get the same map before the erasing
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#1127 [06:40] <BarryCarlyon> !
#1128 [06:41] <Elvang> The fluid pages says what will cause an update, but its not the page with the screenshots of a design...
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#1132 [06:52] <Draglems1> Pretty sure this is glitched 0.o
#1133 [06:52] <Draglems1> I put cobblestone on arrows?
#1134 [06:54] <nevercast> Night guys
#1135 [06:55] <Draglems1> Peac.w
#1136 [07:06] <BarryCarlyon> Draglems1: thats a case of arrow in ground does not exist as an object.
#1137 [07:06] <BarryCarlyon> Of is block floating a block in the air?
#1138 [07:06] <Draglems1> It was on a wall
#1139 [07:06] <Draglems1> and it went inside the cobblestone.
#1140 [07:07] <BarryCarlyon> Case of arrow not object :-P Or a object artifact. Client has it shown even tho its not actually there.
#1141 [07:09] <BarryCarlyon> But if both at in the same block square, its just a graphic artifact. Since the arrow is not tracked as a object anymore.
#1142 [07:09] <Draglems1> Does seeds need water?
#1143 [07:35] <SinZ> Night
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#1146 [07:43] <Miniminers512> Herro
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#1160 [08:07] <Awesomeness> Why hellows there.
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#1163 [08:19] <Pimpy> hi
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#1172 [09:18] <braaaa> hi there
#1173 [09:19] <braaaa> if minecraft is down can i at least play singleplayer?
#1174 [09:20] <jamster> i believe as long as you have logged on once you can
#1175 [09:21] <braaaa> because my game closes after login
#1176 [09:21] <braaaa> i wont come to the menu
#1177 [09:21] <ItsCriminal> how can i ban someone forever, cos nick and ip ban is easy to get arround it
#1178 [09:22] <braaaa> so is it about the downtime of minecraft or has it to do with my game/pc?
#1179 [09:24] <ItsCriminal> i can login
#1180 [09:24] <ItsCriminal> withou any problem
#1181 [09:25] <braaaa> after login there is the picture of mojang specifications andd then my game closes
#1182 [09:25] <braaaa> no error message or sound, nothin
#1183 [09:26] <ItsCriminal> did you played allready once?
#1184 [09:27] <braaaa> yeah
#1185 [09:27] <braaaa> today already and the whole last week
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#1190 [09:41] <zonelouise> Excuse me?
#1191 [09:42] <ItsCriminal> yes
#1192 [09:42] <zonelouise> Can You Put Mutiple Mods At The Same Time?
#1193 [09:42] <xales> Yes - if you use something like Modloader, however, this is not the place to get support for mods
#1194 [09:42] <zonelouise> Because If I Put Mutiple Mods It Will Get A Black Screen or A Black Screen
#1195 [09:43] <zonelouise> woops
#1196 [09:43] <zonelouise> Or An Error
#1197 [09:43] <xales> Try looking on the forum (http://minecraftforum.net) - we don't provide support for mods
#1198 [09:44] <zonelouise> Ok Thanks Sorry For Botherring
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#1206 [10:04] <DaCheat2468> I'm still having problems with my gift code for minecraft
#1207 [10:04] <DaCheat2468> Where can i contact a member that works on Minecraft
#1208 [10:04] <xales> what is the problem?
#1209 [10:05] <DaCheat2468> it keeps complaining The gift code is incorrect, or has already been used.
#1210 [10:05] <xales> are you typing it correctly?
#1211 [10:05] <DaCheat2468> ........ yes
#1212 [10:05] <xales> you need to include the -s
#1213 [10:06] <DaCheat2468> the wha?
#1214 [10:06] <xales> 1234-5678-9101
#1215 [10:06] <xales> ^it should look like that
#1216 [10:06] <DaCheat2468> hold on...but my friend sent to me a sentence
#1217 [10:07] <DaCheat2468> and there was no number thing like that
#1218 [10:08] <xales> was the gift code purchased from minecraft.net and not some third party retailer?
#1219 [10:08] <DaCheat2468> from minecraft.net
#1220 [10:08] <DaCheat2468> *taps his foot on the floor*
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#1222 [10:08] <xales> the person who purchased the code would have the code on their profile page on minecraft.net on the bottom - that is what you need to enter on the redeem page
#1223 [10:09] <DaCheat2468> where do i find his profile page?
#1224 [10:09] <DaCheat2468> idk his name thing :(
#1225 [10:09] <xales> he needs to log in on minecraft.net and click the "profile" button
#1226 [10:09] <xales> and scroll down to the bottom of that page, which is where gift codes are listed
#1227 [10:10] <DaCheat2468> so if he's online. i ask him to go to his profile and look for the gift code
#1228 [10:10] <DaCheat2468> right?
#1229 [10:10] <DaCheat2468> ok..if this doesn't work........I want a phone number or e-mail of someone to talk to cause i feel like i'm being robbed
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#1245 [11:26] <ItsCriminal> can i get the reinstall link pleae?
#1246 [11:26] <ItsCriminal> *please
#1247 [11:27] <ItsCriminal> !reinstall
#1248 [11:28] <Shadow386> !potato
#1249 [11:28] <Shadow386> SO
#1250 [11:28] <Shadow386> whats up people
#1251 [11:29] <oxE1> preparing popcorn, waiting for steam
#1252 [11:31] <Shadow386> meh
#1253 [11:31] <Shadow386> what things on steam?
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#1256 [11:40] <exp0> malware can get annoying
#1257 [11:40] <exp0> thank god for malwarebyte
#1258 [11:41] <Kealper> you has malware O.o
#1259 [11:41] <exp0> had
#1260 [11:42] <exp0> was torrenting legal stuff and a rogue anti-spyware trojan was on my computer
#1261 [11:42] <exp0> it didnt do anything, was just wanting to
#1262 [11:42] <Kealper> gg
#1263 [11:42] <exp0> zonealarm and spybot S&D kept it from doing anything besides asking for permission to do stuff
#1264 [11:43] <Kealper> ZA...eew
#1265 [11:43] <exp0> I've used Comodo and hated it.
#1266 [11:44] <Kealper> comodo is nasty too
#1267 [11:44] * Kealper uses Avira
#1267 [11:45] <exp0> If I wanted to buy one, I would go for a real firewall
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#1269 [11:46] <Pimpy> hi
#1270 [11:46] <Kealper> hi
#1271 [11:46] <Pimpy> just comming back from the nether :D
#1272 [11:46] <Kealper> and software firewalls are crappy imo :/
#1273 [11:46] <Pimpy> i was lucky the portal was in a cave in the nether
#1274 [11:47] <Kealper> portals won't spawn you anywhere dangerous in the nether :/
#1275 [11:47] <exp0> I'd buy a hardware firewall if it was necessary, but it isnt yet
#1276 [11:48] <Pimpy> really ? I saw videos of guys spamming in the middle of the nether with a lot of ghasts
#1277 [11:48] <Kealper> OH....yeah, that's a possibility lol
#1278 [11:48] <exp0> ghasts are creatures, portals wont spawn you in lava
#1279 [11:49] <Pimpy> yeah i know but i was lucky because i was in a cave so they were no monsters
#1280 [11:49] <exp0> Kealper, any links to good MC docs on wrappers and the API?
#1281 [11:50] <Kealper> there is no api atm :/
#1282 [11:50] <exp0> any places with docs on making mods that arent just giving you their mods?
#1283 [11:50] <Postoffice> ehm, i'm getting "error.java" like every 10mins.. any clues? :P and yeahm, thats the error i get
#1284 [11:51] <Kealper> no idea lol, you could ask in #risucraft
#1285 [11:51] <exp0> I dont want to be handed mods, I really would rather learn the basics of it cause I know basic Java already
#1286 [11:51] <Kealper> i gotta run for a few hours :/
#1287 [11:51] <exp0> kk
#1288 [11:51] <Kealper> and #risucraft might be able to point you in the right direction for that stuff
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#1292 [12:02] <Pimpy> what does the zombipigs drop ?
#1293 [12:05] <xales> http://lmmcwtfy.com/?q=zombie+pigman
#1294 [12:06] <Pimpy> thanks
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#1296 [12:12] <Pimpy> ghats are easy to kill u_u
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#1298 [12:17] <exp0> and fun to watch. FIREBALL
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#1301 [12:21] <Ngame989> Is anyone there?
#1302 [12:22] <DopeGhoti> there's a 'lmmcwtfy.com'?! <3!
#1303 [12:22] <DopeGhoti> Also, hi, Ngame989
#1304 [12:22] <Ngame989> Hi
#1305 [12:22] <Ngame989> If you take a screenshot in Minecraft, where is it saved?
#1306 [12:22] <DopeGhoti> Windows I presume?
#1307 [12:22] <Ngame989> Alright I'll go check.
#1308 [12:22] <DopeGhoti> %AppData%/.minecraft/screenshots IIRC
#1309 [12:22] <Ngame989> Alright thanks!
#1310 [12:22] <DopeGhoti> cheers!
#1311 [12:23] <Ngame989> Cya!
#1312 [12:23] <DopeGhoti> Well, that hopefully will set the tone for the day.
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#1314 [12:24] <H2O_Acidic> !check 99.177.176.99
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#1316 [12:24] <H2O_Acidic> Kealper mind helping me out?
#1317 [12:25] <H2O_Acidic> I'm trying to connect to my friends server yet it says connection timed out
#1318 [12:25] <H2O_Acidic> I helped him setup the server on his computer
#1319 [12:25] <H2O_Acidic> Not sure why it's not letting me in
#1320 [12:26] <exp0> ports forwarded?
#1321 [12:26] <H2O_Acidic> yes
#1322 [12:27] <H2O_Acidic> His server is up and running right now
#1323 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> IP?
#1324 [12:27] <H2O_Acidic> 99.177.176.99
#1325 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> !check 99.177.176.99
#1326 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> Either the server is not running, or the port is in fact not forwarded.
#1327 [12:28] <H2O_Acidic> I told him go to his router and make sure its forward
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#1331 [12:30] <exp0> make sure it forwards to the proper internal IP. His internal IP is likely dynamic which would cause issues
#1332 [12:30] <DopeGhoti> exp0: any luck with the issues you were having, sir or ma'am?
#1333 [12:31] <exp0> havent gotten to it, had to clean up some malware that did nothing but cause my software to ask me to allow it
#1334 [12:32] <H2O_Acidic> so his ip v4?
#1335 [12:32] <exp0> yeah
#1336 [12:33] <exp0> best idea is to make it a static IP that is higher than the DHCP range
#1337 [12:33] <DopeGhoti> Or assign it statically via DHCP MAC address correlation
#1338 [12:33] <H2O_Acidic> timed out
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#1340 [12:34] <Altazimuth> Erm. I have a problem (obviously). When running Minecraft in browser the sounds works perfectly. But when running the exe, it is completely silent. Any ideas why and how I can fix this?
#1341 [12:34] <exp0> do you have music or sound on?
#1342 [12:34] <Altazimuth> Yes
#1343 [12:34] <Altazimuth> 100%
#1344 [12:34] <DopeGhoti> Altazimuth: this is Windows?
#1345 [12:35] <exp0> if you are using vista or Win7, make sure whaen the software is on that sound is being sent to the audio mixer
#1346 [12:35] <Altazimuth> Yes, win Vista. How do I do that exp0?
#1347 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> Altazimuth: what exp0 said. Also, check said mixer and ensure the app's audio stream is not muted.
#1348 [12:35] <exp0> right click on your speaker control and open volume mixer
#1349 [12:35] <exp0> Vista and 7 have a better way to control each application's overall volume level
#1350 [12:36] <Altazimuth> Oh, what. Curse you Vistaaaa?
#1351 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> actaully, it's one of the few good things Vista introduced, IMO
#1352 [12:36] <Altazimuth> It worked. Thanks for the help.
#1353 [12:36] <exp0> I like vista's taskbar
#1354 [12:36] <ItsCriminal> how can i ban someone forever, caus ip nick ban you can get around it
#1355 [12:36] <Altazimuth> I think it's awesome, just how did it get set to 0 I wonder...
#1356 [12:36] <exp0> cant
#1357 [12:36] <H2O_Acidic> !check 92.168.1.83
#1358 [12:36] <H2O_Acidic> !check 192.168.1.83
#1359 [12:36] <exp0> you can blacklist the username
#1360 [12:36] <ItsCriminal> :P
#1361 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: from an MC server, or from IRC?
#1362 [12:37] <H2O_Acidic> !check 192.168.1.83
#1363 [12:37] <exp0> Altazimuth: blacklist the username and that should keep the user out
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#1365 [12:37] * Altazimuth has no other users on the pc
#1365 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: from an MC server, on the console "ban <playername>"; or as an op logged into the server, "/ban <playername>"
#1366 [12:38] <exp0> nonono, for the server
#1367 [12:38] <Altazimuth> I said nothing about servers...
#1368 [12:38] <exp0> oh, sorry, I was thinking you said that
#1369 [12:38] <exp0> did you find the volume mixer?
#1370 [12:38] <Altazimuth> Yeah
#1371 [12:38] <Altazimuth> Thanks for the help!
#1372 [12:39] <DopeGhoti> it's what we do here in #MineCraftHelp.
#1373 [12:39] <exp0> did it work?
#1374 [12:39] <Altazimuth> Honestly, this is fastest and best help i've ever got!
#1375 [12:39] <Altazimuth> Yeah it worked perfectly
#1376 [12:40] <exp0> sometimes, the more people you have, the more collective knowledge you have at your disposal. Everyone has their own knack. Glad you got the help you needed
#1377 [12:40] <Altazimuth> I guess I'll stay here to help people that need it!
#1378 [12:40] <exp0> DopeGhoti, what is the minimal amount of RAM win7 needs to run without a whole lot of lag
#1379 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> Excellent. Another drone has joined us.
#1380 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> exp0: I'd say 1.5 GiB if you also want to run any applications of note.
#1381 [12:41] <exp0> ok
#1382 [12:41] <exp0> time to reboot and install win7
#1383 [12:42] <Altazimuth> 4GB of RAM FTM
#1384 [12:43] <Altazimuth> FTM meaning For The Mediocrity
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#1386 [12:45] <Pimpy> hi
#1387 [12:45] <Altazimuth> 'Sup
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#1389 [12:45] <Pimpy> does somebody know were i have to put the classes i created for mc ?
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#1391 [12:50] <xales> Pimpy: Our stance on modding, unfortunately, is "if you need to ask, you shouldn't be doing it." You may wish to ask in a modding channel, such as #risucraft
#1392 [12:51] <Pimpy> ok i didn't know it was existing
#1393 [12:52] <Altazimuth> Is it normal for framerate to go down anddown in newworld?
#1394 [12:56] <relsqui> I asked this earlier but in case someone's around now who knows: does the protected area around spawn extend indefinitely vertically?
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#1397 [12:58] <Noodles> how do i change my username in mp?
#1398 [13:00] <Altazimuth> You cannot as far as I recall
#1399 [13:00] <Noodles_> aw really? cause mine is my first 2 initials and my last name
#1400 [13:02] <Shadow386> you cant yet
#1401 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: I believe so.
#1402 [13:02] <Shadow386> they hinted at possibilities in the future
#1403 [13:02] <Noodles_> well that sucks
#1404 [13:03] <relsqui> DopeGhoti: dagnabbit. I want to make a safe area for people to spawn into that's close to useful things (e.g. train stations)
#1405 [13:03] <relsqui> but it can't be too close, or the useful things won't work!
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#1408 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: just put the useful things in a perimeter about 33 blocks away from the spawn point
#1409 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> the protection zone is 33x33 around the center of the 22x22 spawn zone
#1410 [13:09] <relsqui> yeah, I know
#1411 [13:09] <relsqui> 33x33 around 20x20 iirc
#1412 [13:09] <relsqui> the useful stuff is already there; we're still deciding where to put the spawn :)
#1413 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> "on the far side of a tunnel, with a sign saying "this way to cool stuff."
#1414 [13:10] <oxE1> http://www.youtube.com/machinimarealm#p/l/ - if someone forget )
#1415 [13:10] <relsqui> XD yeah that's basically the plan
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#1417 [13:11] <DaCheat2468> i'm back. apparently my friend is offline and i can't get the help i need from him!
#1418 [13:11] <DaCheat2468> the one that bought me minecraft. but the code doesn't work!
#1419 [13:12] <DopeGhoti> DaCheat2468: when you enter the code, are you typing in the hyphens?
#1420 [13:12] <DaCheat2468> um....hyphens? which were those?
#1421 [13:12] <DaCheat2468> "
#1422 [13:12] <DaCheat2468> no not that
#1423 [13:12] <DaCheat2468> um... < and > ?
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#1425 [13:12] <DopeGhoti> '-'.
#1426 [13:12] <DaCheat2468> i'm a nub >.< hold on
#1427 [13:13] <DopeGhoti> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphen
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#1429 [13:13] <exp0> hey
#1430 [13:13] <DopeGhoti> straw.
#1431 [13:13] <DaCheat2468> but the gift code isn't a number code. it's a sentence
#1432 [13:13] <DopeGhoti> Uh. That's not a Minecraft gife code, then.
#1433 [13:14] <DaCheat2468> o.o
#1434 [13:14] <DaCheat2468> hold on plz
#1435 [13:14] <exp0> defraging a partition to shrink is boring
#1436 [13:14] <relsqui> XD
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#1438 [13:16] <ikea2000> Hello :)
#1439 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> It's Ikea.. from the past!
#1440 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> welcome, chrononaut!
#1441 [13:17] <ikea2000> Thank you, i make furniture in minecraft ^^
#1442 [13:17] <DaCheat2468> is there a person i can find that works with Minecraft to check if my code is legit?
#1443 [13:17] <ikea2000> Mainly out of dirt
#1444 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> Au contraire; you make furniture *kits*
#1445 [13:17] <ikea2000> Oui!
#1446 [13:18] <ikea2000> You'll have to build it yourself, i just deliver mats, in a flat package.
#1447 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> DaCheat2468: www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp will tell you if your code is legitimate.
#1448 [13:19] <DaCheat2468> it wont work!!!
#1449 [13:19] <DaCheat2468> I'm going to kill my friend!
#1450 [13:19] <DopeGhoti> Then it's not a legitimate code. This is thrice now we've been over this.
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#1452 [13:19] <DopeGhoti> Rather than resorting to homicide, perhaps start with a conversation.
#1453 [13:19] <DaCheat2468> let me think
#1454 [13:19] <DaCheat2468> he got me the game
#1455 [13:20] <DaCheat2468> then he sent me a sentence which should be the code
#1456 [13:20] <feenyx> a hyphen is a -
#1457 [13:20] <relsqui> he may have made a mistake?
#1458 [13:20] <ikea2000> I want to set up a server, and would like help to choose server software.
#1459 [13:20] <DaCheat2468> i know that now...
#1460 [13:20] <relsqui> it should be a sequence of numbers and letters separated by hyphens
#1461 [13:20] <DopeGhoti> No. Codes. Are. Sentences.
#1462 [13:20] <feenyx> you all seemed confused :p
#1463 [13:20] <DopeGhoti> What about this do you not understand?
#1464 [13:20] <relsqui> but if he has actually generated a gift code he can still get at it from his profile
#1465 [13:20] <relsqui> and send you the correct one
#1466 [13:20] <DaCheat2468> i want to check but he's not online
#1467 [13:20] <DopeGhoti> So.. wait for when he _is_ online?
#1468 [13:21] <DaCheat2468> well duu
#1469 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> It's not the frelling cure for Ebola, it's a game activation code. Read a book or something to occupy yourself.
#1470 [13:21] <DaCheat2468> so when he gets on. ask him to go to his profile and check right?
#1471 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#1472 [13:21] <DaCheat2468> kk
#1473 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> Why did this need explaining again?
#1474 [13:23] <ikea2000> I want to run a server. 1. I want to be able to shut it down every night and continue in the morning. 2. I want to choose how long night and days is/ choose when it's only going to be day. 3. I wish i could release falling lava/ or a zombiehorde. Anyone got some tips?
#1475 [13:23] <ikea2000> What server and addons i can get?
#1476 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> 1> Not a problem. 2> Can't be done without unsupported mods. 3a> Buckets. 3b> See <2>
#1477 [13:24] <ikea2000> ok, good :)
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#1479 [13:25] <ikea2000> Now, there seems to be many different servers, or are these servers with included addons? ( http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Custom_server_list )
#1480 [13:25] <ikea2000> Should i choose one of these or just go with the standard + some unsupported mods?
#1481 [13:26] <DopeGhoti> If you want support in here, go with the standard server and no mods.
#1482 [13:26] <ikea2000> ok ^^
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#1484 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> Morning, Mikafifty-six.
#1485 [13:28] <ikea2000> I read this: Falling Lava A form of roleplay, falling lava servers usually use a small map with a single block of lava or a lava "timer" (a long channel through which lava flows, delaying its spread) at the top of it.
#1486 [13:29] <GV> That's.. rather stupid
#1487 [13:29] <ikea2000> Which seemed nice, but it would be nice if you simply just had an addon that released lava at the push of a button.
#1488 [13:29] <GV> Oh look, the admin just flooded the world in BURNING.... there goes hours of my time as everything burns up.
#1489 [13:29] <Mika56> Hi, I'm trying to run a server, but the official server won't work. I'm on windows, and both .exe and .jar displays an empty word, I juste have animals, and I, falling to the "vacuum" (to nothing)
#1490 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> ikea2000: well, you can wire a button to recalculate fluid flows to cause magma to flow down a channel..
#1491 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> Mika56: Are you running both the server and client on the same machine? Are you running ZoneAlarm? Do you have less than 3GiB of RAM?
#1492 [13:30] <ikea2000> DopeGhoti: With redston circuits you mean?
#1493 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> ikea2000: yes, sort of
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#1495 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> Mika56: I assume s/word/world/
#1496 [13:31] <Mika56> DopeGhoti tunning on two separate computers. The server has got 2Gib of RAM, but the servers uses for about 300Mib. Importing my "solo" world from my computer changes nothing...
#1497 [13:31] <ikea2000> DopeGhoti: Is it possible to make some form of gate?
#1498 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> ikea2000: a sluice? Not yet, as such.
#1499 [13:31] <GV> Mika56 - Brand of NIC on the computer running the server?
#1500 [13:31] <Mika56> yes, world, sorry
#1501 [13:31] <ikea2000> DopeGhoti: Awww
#1502 [13:32] <Mika56> GV : Sorry, i didn't understood what you asked, i'm not english :)
#1503 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> Mika56: Are either the server or client running ZoneAlarm?
#1504 [13:32] <Mika56> No Firewall at all
#1505 [13:32] <GV> Mika56 - What is the brand of the network card that is installed on the server?
#1506 [13:32] <Mika56> I can connect to the server, but the world is empty :(
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#1508 [13:33] <Mika56> I'm using the internal NIC, a SIS one (the motherboard is an ASUS if i remember well)
#1509 [13:33] <jamster> how long do things stay on the ground after you die?
#1510 [13:33] <Mika56> There's no ground
#1511 [13:34] <Mika56> I fall to the "nothing", and, sometime, i get back to the "top", and falls again
#1512 [13:34] <GV> jamster - 5 minutes
#1513 [13:34] <jamster> oh sorry, mine is a question to #minecrathelp .. i can't help you i don't know enough
#1514 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> Mika56: have you tried reinstalling the client's binaries?
#1515 [13:34] <jamster> GV: thank you! :)
#1516 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> !reinastall
#1517 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#1518 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> ^ this
#1519 [13:34] <Mika56> DopeGhoti, the client can connect successifully to others servers
#1520 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> jamster: about 5 minutes, IIRC
#1521 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> Mika56: are you running any mods on the server or client?
#1522 [13:35] <Mika56> Both server and client are official (actualy, the server is running thanks to McMyAdmin, but running withtout any tools results to the same thing)
#1523 [13:35] <jamster> DopeGhoti: thanks
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#1525 [13:38] <Mika56> No more ideas ?
#1526 [13:38] <ikea2000> DopeGhoti: About Mika56, what if he checks the generated world with a mapviewer. If the world generates correctly the server just won't load any chunks, which maybe would be a Windows ownership related problem?
#1527 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> Thinking. And also at work.
#1528 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> ikea2000: it sounds like a client issue, because if the server weren't able to load the chunks, the server would be presenting java errors when trying to read the files.
#1529 [13:39] <Mika56> Gonna try with a map viewer. I don't thin there is any problem to access the file as the minecraft server is running as administrator
#1530 [13:40] <GV> Mika56 - Could you possibly give me the exact model of the network card on the computer?
#1531 [13:40] <ikea2000> DopeGhoti: ok, just a guess
#1532 [13:40] <Mika56> GV : Windows says SiS191
#1533 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> ikea2000: not a bad one (:
#1534 [13:41] <ikea2000> DopeGhoti: I know nothing about java so :)
#1535 [13:41] <GV> Hmm, Mika56, could you see if there's any updates for that network driver?
#1536 [13:41] <Mika56> Trying to test the map in a map viewer and will see
#1537 [13:42] <DopeGhoti> Mika56: while endlessly falling through the void, can you chat on the server and see it appear on the server console?
#1538 [13:43] <Mika56> Map opens fine in a map viewer
#1539 [13:44] <Mika56> Chatting appears in both McMyAdmin console and "cmd" console
#1540 [13:45] <DopeGhoti> so communication between the server and client is mostly working
#1541 [13:45] <DopeGhoti> would you mind setting up a vanilla, non-modded server up in another directory and running that?
#1542 [13:45] <DopeGhoti> (no mods, no McMyAdmin; just the Minecraft server itself)
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#1544 [13:46] <Mika56> I had already created 5 vanilla servers, with the same results (differents locations)
#1545 [13:46] <Mowlwurf78> test
#1546 [13:46] <GV> Mika56 - Could you try updating your network card's drivers?
#1547 [13:46] * DopeGhoti takes the rag out of Mowlwurf's mouth so that we can hear his name properly.
#1547 [13:46] <Mika56> Looking for drivers ;)
#1548 [13:47] <Mowlwurf78> can i aks some questions?
#1549 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> You just did, so apparently yes.
#1550 [13:48] <Mowlwurf78> ahh ok.. next.. sorry for my bad english iam from Germany
#1551 [13:48] <Mowlwurf78> ähmm a friend bought the game for me and send me the Gift code he received in email
#1552 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> Kein Problem.
#1553 [13:49] <Mowlwurf78> but he doesent works
#1554 [13:49] <Mowlwurf78> hmpf sag das doch
#1555 [13:49] <Mowlwurf78> :)
#1556 [13:49] <Mowlwurf78> Also nen Kumpel hat mir vor ein paar tagen das spiel gekauft
#1557 [13:49] <Mika56> There's an update. I'm not sure that's related, but i'm installing it
#1558 [13:50] <Mowlwurf78> und hat mir den Gift Code geschickt
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#1560 [13:50] <Mowlwurf78> Dummerweise funktioniert der nicht
#1561 [13:50] <DopeGhoti> Mowlwurf78: Wovon is das Spiel gekauft? Von minecraft.net oder anders?
#1562 [13:50] <Mowlwurf78> minecraft.net
#1563 [13:51] <Mowlwurf78> der code steht in einem profil auch als ungenutzt da
#1564 [13:51] <Mowlwurf78> *seinem
#1565 [13:51] <Prins> wut
#1566 [13:51] <xales> hi Prins
#1567 [13:51] <Prins> Hello :)
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#1569 [13:52] <GV> Is Mowlwurf78 redeeming the code at http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp ?
#1570 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> Sind Sie mit der Eingabe die Bindestriche bei der Eingabe der Code?
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#1572 [13:52] <Mika56> Network drivers updated but no chang
#1573 [13:52] <Mowlwurf78> jepp
#1574 [13:52] <Mika56> conge*
#1575 [13:52] <Mika56> change**
#1576 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> Dar Code sagt wie "xxxx-xxxx-xxxx", ja?
#1577 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> Der*
#1578 [13:53] <xales> Mika56: Do you have any firewall running? Also, you may need to restart after the update
#1579 [13:53] <Mowlwurf78> jepp
#1580 [13:53] <Mowlwurf78> The gift code is incorrect, or has already been used.
#1581 [13:53] <Mika56> Windows's Firewall is turned off, I've got no other Firewall, and the av is desactivated
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#1583 [13:54] <OmbreNoir> hey guys... I have a problem, my server when is autosave (at 3h-4h) my server crash due to hight save.. I can change the autosave time ?
#1584 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> Sein freund hast den Code zu ansers nicht gegeben?
#1585 [13:54] <Mowlwurf78> nein
#1586 [13:54] <Mowlwurf78> wie gesagt
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#1588 [13:54] <xales> OmbreNoir: Depends on what you are using to autosave
#1589 [13:54] <Mowlwurf78> in seinem profil steht der code als noch nicht genutzt da
#1590 [13:54] <xales> Mika56: Can you try connecting from the server (playing on the server, connecting to localhost)
#1591 [13:55] <OmbreNoir> xales is bukkit
#1592 [13:55] <xales> OmbreNoir: It depends on the plugin you are using - ask #bukkit
#1593 [13:55] <Mika56> The server doesn't have a graphic card, so I can try throught RDP, but I'm not sure that performances are gonna be nice...
#1594 [13:55] <xales> Mika56: Is it a VPS?
#1595 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> Das ist gut. Sie sind nicht verändert alle Großbuchstaben zu Kleinbuchstaben, oder?
#1596 [13:56] <Mika56> No, it's a dedicated computer at home
#1597 [13:56] <Mowlwurf78> ja.
#1598 [13:56] <Mowlwurf78> so wie in der email
#1599 [13:56] <xales> Mika56: What version of Windows is it running?
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#1601 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> Mit kein Anführungszeichen und so weiter?
#1602 [13:57] <Mowlwurf78> nein
#1603 [13:57] <Mika56> xales : Windows Home server (= Windows Server 2003)
#1604 [13:58] <xales> Mika56: Do you know how to open Device Manager?
#1605 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> ..Tut mir Leid, ich habe kein Ideen mehr. Sein Freund sollte daniel@mojang.com um Hulfe ein Email seden.
#1606 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> sended.
#1607 [13:59] <Mika56> All the devices are installed and working corerctly
#1608 [13:59] <Mowlwurf78> in deutsch oder englisch?
#1609 [13:59] <GV> englisch
#1610 [13:59] <xales> Mika56: Wasn't the question...open it, find the network card (NIC), right click on it, and select Properties
#1611 [14:00] <Mika56> Then...?
#1612 [14:00] <xales> On the Advanced tab I believe, find the dropdown for send/recieve buffers, or something similar (not sure what it's called)
#1613 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> Sowie GV hat gesagt; auf englisch.
#1614 [14:00] <Mowlwurf78> Ok vielen dank
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#1616 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> Mowlwurf78: Bitte schoen.
#1617 [14:01] <Mika56> Nothing contains "buffer"
#1618 [14:02] <Mowlwurf78> Tschüss
#1619 [14:02] <Mowlwurf78> or Bye bye
#1620 [14:02] <xales> Mika56: What other tabs are there, just so I can make sure it's the right place
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#1622 [14:03] <Mika56> G�n�ral / Avanc� / Pilote / Ressources / Gestion de l'alimentation :p (General / Advanced / Driver / Ressources / Alimentation gestion ?)
#1623 [14:03] <Mika56> Can't try from localhost, no OpenGL driver available (it's a server, not a gaming computer !)
#1624 [14:04] <xales> Mika56: What are the specs of the server?
#1625 [14:04] <xales> Also, are you on a LAN with it?
#1626 [14:04] <Mika56> Intel processor, dual core, 2Ghz, and 2Go of RAM
#1627 [14:04] <Mika56> Yes, through a 100mbps connection
#1628 [14:05] <Mika56> (Running in 32bits)
#1629 [14:05] <xales> Do you have anything else running on the server?
#1630 [14:06] <Mika56> a lot, lol
#1631 [14:06] <xales> What?
#1632 [14:07] <Mika56> IIS, backup service, pyLoad, Teamviewer, ...
#1633 [14:07] <xales> Close everything you don't absolutely need
#1634 [14:07] <Mika56> Mmmh... Running an OpenVPN server, may be the problem
#1635 [14:09] <Mika56> The server is now saying "Failed to login: Bad login" 0_o
#1636 [14:09] <xales> Can you connect to other servers?
#1637 [14:10] <Mika56> Let me a minute, looking for an ip
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#1639 [14:12] <ikea2000> Mika56: What is the adress i type in Firefox to access the WebUI for McMyAdmin? (on the host machine)
#1640 [14:13] <Mika56> ok, i was able to connect to an other server.
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#1642 [14:13] <Mika56> ikea2000, on localhost, running McMyAdmin, default is http://127.0.0.1:8080
#1643 [14:14] <Mika56> Server is now accepting me... But still faling to void
#1644 [14:14] <exp0> that was a failure, win7 refused to install drivers
#1645 [14:14] <ikea2000> Mika56: Strange, i get "invalid request" :S
#1646 [14:14] <xales> Mika56: Try closing and re-launching the Minecraft server
#1647 [14:16] <Mika56> ikea2000 when launching the server, the console should say something like "[Notice] Web server started at http://+:8080/"
#1648 [14:17] <Mika56> Relaunched.... I falled again, and then I apparated on a block ! :o
#1649 [14:17] <Mika56> The wold seems to be generating...
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#1651 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> wait, what?
#1652 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> MC doesn't host a web server
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#1654 [14:21] <Mika56> McMyAdmin do
#1655 [14:21] <Mika56> java.io.EOFException...
#1656 [14:21] <xales> Mika56: If the world is generating that slowly, I don't think the server is really fit for a Minecraft server
#1657 [14:21] <xales> that, or the NIC is the issue
#1658 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> "So that's what IP over Carrier Pigeon plays like"
#1659 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> (See also: Glas' server)
#1660 [14:23] <Mika56> The server was running Mcserver without problem, but it doesn't supports monsters
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#1662 [14:24] <exp0> Mika56, doesn't MCServer say it is an alpha server?
#1663 [14:24] <MJD> hi, jemand deutsches hier, der mir mit nem technischen problem helfen kann?
#1664 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> Ich kann ein bischien.
#1665 [14:24] <MJD> ein bisschen helfen oder deutsch?
#1666 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> Ich kann ein bischien _deutschsprache_. (:
#1667 [14:25] <MJD> xD ok ill ask in english
#1668 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> As you prefer.
#1669 [14:25] <Mika56> Didn't understood exp0
#1670 [14:25] <xales> Mika56: can you connect to 'smp.shadow-craft.net'?
#1671 [14:26] <exp0> read the console when it starts up, thought the top said it was an alpha server
#1672 [14:26] <Mika56> yes
#1673 [14:26] <MJD> my problem is: every time i run the game, it load normally to the login, then i login, and when its done with loading i got blackscreen in offline and withescreen on browser game
#1674 [14:26] <Mika56> (xales yes*
#1675 [14:26] <MJD> i just bought the game
#1676 [14:27] <MJD> i updated java and my graphic engine stuff
#1677 [14:27] <xales> MJD: What graphics card does your computer have?
#1678 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> MJD: You may need to reinstall the local files. Is your computer running Windows?
#1679 [14:27] <MJD> nvidea 9800 gt i think
#1680 [14:27] <MJD> yes
#1681 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#1682 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> MJD: ^ Follow the re-install directions at that site.
#1683 [14:28] <MJD> !reinstall
#1684 [14:28] <Mika56> Server crashed.... Definitly a problem of performances, I think
#1685 [14:29] <MJD> i try
#1686 [14:29] <MJD> thanks
#1687 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> MJD: You are welcome; good luck!
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#1689 [14:33] <MJD> mh there is no folder which is called "Appdata" or something simmilar in german which contains a folder with the name roaming
#1690 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> MJD: try %AppData%
#1691 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> MJD: In there, you should see ".minecraft".
#1692 [14:34] <MJD> no appdata
#1693 [14:34] <MJD> or wait
#1694 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> MJD: With the percent symbols (%)
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#1696 [14:36] <MJD> blackscreen again, did everything the tutorial say to me
#1697 [14:37] <MJD> thats crap, i just payed 15 euro for blackscreen
#1698 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> Hold on, we'll get this working.
#1699 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> MJD: So, to confirm: you did delete the 'bin' directory, correct?
#1700 [14:39] <MJD> i deleted the whole .minecraft and started the exe
#1701 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> MJD: I see. And when you did this, the client re-downloaded its updates, and it's still giving you a blank screen?
#1702 [14:40] <MJD> yes
#1703 [14:40] <xales> Java version, double check drivers
#1704 [14:40] <xales> Dope
#1705 [14:41] <MJD> i did
#1706 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> MJD: What version of Java have you got installed?
#1707 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> xales: drivers already covered (:
#1708 [14:41] <MJD> version 6 update 3
#1709 [14:41] <MJD> 23
#1710 [14:41] <MJD> i meant xD
#1711 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> I was gonna say.. (:
#1712 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> MJD: would you mind trying something somewhat outlandish that I have seen help others disgnose this problem?
#1713 [14:42] <MJD> mh i think its ok xD
#1714 [14:42] <MJD> so you know the problem?
#1715 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> it's working now?
#1716 [14:42] <MJD> no
#1717 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> Well, I have a theory: Sometimes there is something running in your user profile that somehow interferes with Minecraft.
#1718 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> What I would like you to try, is creating a new Windows user profile, and running Minecraft as that user
#1719 [14:43] <MJD> for example?
#1720 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> If the problem goes away, then it is a problem with something running under your regular user
#1721 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> If the problem stays, it's a problem with something system-wide.
#1722 [14:43] <MJD> you know what that could be?
#1723 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> Eitehr way, we know where next to look.
#1724 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> I have seen, for example, Adobe Air causing issues, as well as other concurrently-running utilities that use Java
#1725 [14:44] <jamster> what is the radias of a torch so that monsters wont spawn? like a 7 x 7 area?
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#1727 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> jamster: Torches cast light level 14, decrementing for every block distant from the torch. Monsters can spawn in light level 7 or lower.
#1728 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> jamster: so to monsterspawnproof an area, plant torches 7 blocks apart.
#1729 [14:46] <jamster> alright thank you!
#1730 [14:46] <MJD> mh so im trying whith creating a new user, thanks
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#1732 [14:49] <xales> so DopeGhot, how goes FAQBot?
#1733 [14:50] <xales> also 14:49:53 -NickServ(services@esper.net)- Nickname FAQBot isn't registered.
#1734 [14:50] <xales> :)
#1735 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> xales: I already have a name.
#1736 [14:51] <xales> :(
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#1739 [14:54] <MJD> re
#1740 [14:54] <MJD> it failed
#1741 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> MJD: well, the "good" news is you know it's something systemic
#1742 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> what I would do now is completely uninstall Java, and reinstall it.
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#1744 [14:57] <MJD> ill try :S
#1745 [14:59] <MJD> Oo im deinstalling
#1746 [14:59] <MJD> isnt this an java irc? xD
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#1748 [15:00] <MJD> test
#1749 [15:00] <MJD> lol
#1750 [15:04] <MJD> still blackscreen
#1751 [15:05] <MJD> dope?
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#1756 [15:08] <xales> MJD: Do you have any antivirus running?
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#1758 [15:09] <MJD> why?
#1759 [15:14] <MJD> xales=
#1760 [15:14] <MJD> ?
#1761 [15:14] <xales> oh, sorry
#1762 [15:14] <xales> sometimes they interfere with Java
#1763 [15:14] <xales> try shutting it off, if you have one
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#1767 [15:21] <MJD> nothing worked
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#1769 [15:27] <NinjaKirby> Is there anyway to control the frequency of the Music playback? Right now I feel I'd like to listen to it rather then my own Playlists, but in the past I've found there are periods of extended silence between tracks.
#1770 [15:28] <MJD> xales?
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#1773 [15:32] <Miniminers512> Hey Is minecraft not working for you guys
#1774 [15:33] <NinjaKirby> Working beautifully over here
#1775 [15:33] <Miniminers512> Hmm
#1776 [15:33] <oxE1> Does mc server have some king of packets compression?
#1777 [15:33] <NinjaKirby> I'm not playing on an Online Server though, heh
#1778 [15:34] <Miniminers512> Same
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#1780 [15:38] <MJD> xales hello?
#1781 [15:40] <SkiingPenguins> ?
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#1783 [15:47] <Vadakattu> i have accidentally changed the controls while playing in browser, i have set esc as the inventory key
#1784 [15:48] <Vadakattu> icant get the in game menu
#1785 [15:48] <Vadakattu> hello?
#1786 [15:49] <GV> What OS are you on?
#1787 [15:51] <Vadakattu> mac
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#1790 [15:53] <Ellsi> I was hoping someone could help me with a troubleshooting issue?
#1791 [15:53] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#1792 [15:54] <Ellsi> I just downloaded the game and I'm trying to play it in offline mode but after I log in and it updates the screen inside the window goes black and it crashes my entire computer
#1793 [15:54] <Ellsi> i can't even crtl+alt+delete out of it
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#1795 [15:56] <Vadakattu> just reposting i have accidentally changed the controls while playing in browser, i have set esc as the inventory key
#1796 [15:56] <SkiingPenguins> delete the game settings
#1797 [15:56] <Vadakattu> now i cant access the in game menu
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#1799 [15:56] <GV> Vadakattu - What OS are you on?
#1800 [15:56] <Ellsi> windows vista
#1801 [15:56] <Vadakattu> snow leopard
#1802 [15:57] <GV> Go to your ~/library/application support/minecraft folder
#1803 [15:57] <GV> delete settings.txt
#1804 [15:57] <GV> er, options.txt
#1805 [15:57] <GV> sorry.
#1806 [15:57] <Vadakattu> ok, just about to try
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#1808 [15:57] <Vadakattu> no it not there, i am using the browser version
#1809 [15:58] <GV> Should be in the same place
#1810 [15:58] <Vadakattu> no :(
#1811 [15:58] <GV> You're playing beta?
#1812 [15:58] <Vadakattu> to clarify, i have been playing classic
#1813 [15:58] <GV> Oh. um.
#1814 [15:59] <Vadakattu> i have tried to search my mac, i cant find any trace of mc on it
#1815 [15:59] <GV> clear your browser's cache
#1816 [15:59] <Vadakattu> i have tried reseting safari and clearing its cache
#1817 [16:00] <Vadakattu> aswell as java
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#1819 [16:00] <GV> Hmm
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#1821 [16:02] <GV> I don't actually know where classic saves its files..
#1822 [16:02] <Vadakattu> does it save any?
#1823 [16:02] <Vadakattu> i have tried playing with logging in and same problem
#1824 [16:02] <Vadakattu> so im guessing, it has to be my end
#1825 [16:03] <Vadakattu> *without logging on
#1826 [16:05] <GV> Vadakattu - Can you clear the files via java's control panel?
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#1828 [16:06] <Shadow386> classic....I think it just temps them then deletes them since they are tiny files
#1829 [16:06] <GV> I don't know..
#1830 [16:06] <GV> https://wiki.csuchico.edu/confluence/display/help/Delete+Java+Cache+in+Windows+XP+and+Mac+OS+X
#1831 [16:06] <Vadakattu> yes, but actually there werent any mine craft ones, there were some other prefs
#1832 [16:06] <GV> Follow the steps for the mac down the page
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#1834 [16:06] <Darran> Hello
#1835 [16:06] <GV> 'lo
#1836 [16:06] <Vadakattu> i actually used that exact site :")
#1837 [16:07] <GV> drats
#1838 [16:07] <Vadakattu> there werent any mc prefs there to get deleted
#1839 [16:07] <Darran> How i can teleport player to player on server if he has space on hes name? Like teleport "evil murr"
#1840 [16:07] <Darran> it says error
#1841 [16:07] <Vadakattu> just some from this other program
#1842 [16:08] <Darran> Anyone know?
#1843 [16:08] <GV> Darran - You can't. Enable online-mode, so people can't use invalid names
#1844 [16:09] <Darran> ok
#1845 [16:09] <Darran> We are playing with friends and i should teleport me to my friend and hes name is Evil Banana
#1846 [16:09] <Darran> but i cant teleport :/
#1847 [16:10] <GV> Darran - Right, because you're playing with either verify-names or online-mode set to false, so anybody can log in with any name
#1848 [16:10] <SkiingPenguins> and using spaces in a username is just bad idea anyways
#1849 [16:11] <GV> Officially, minecraft accounts can't have a space in their name, and the server software doesn't support it
#1850 [16:11] <Darran> ok
#1851 [16:11] <Darran> we are playing on lan
#1852 [16:11] <Darran> my friend got it work somehow
#1853 [16:11] <GV> Because the server doesn't check the username against minecraft's database.
#1854 [16:11] <GV> So anybody can log in with any name
#1855 [16:11] <Darran> ok
#1856 [16:12] <Darran> Thats all i needed to ask :)
#1857 [16:12] <Darran> thanks
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#1859 [16:12] * GV labels that group pirates.
#1859 [16:12] <Vadakattu> any more thoughts?
#1860 [16:12] <GV> Vadakattu - Do a search for temp files that have minecraft.net or www.minecraft.net?
#1861 [16:13] <Vadakattu> do i just put that in spotlight?
#1862 [16:13] <GV> That's where Windows puts its files, I don't know about macosx though
#1863 [16:13] <GV> Sure
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#1865 [16:13] <SkiingPenguins> Vadakattu it should be wherever the mac equivalent of appdata for windows is
#1866 [16:13] <Vadakattu> i have tried to find minecraft in spotlight several times to no avail
#1867 [16:13] <MJD> dope, xales, somebody here?
#1868 [16:13] <SkiingPenguins> your user folder or whatever
#1869 [16:13] <Vadakattu> ok
#1870 [16:13] <GV> SkiingPenguins - Nope, not for classic
#1871 [16:13] <SkiingPenguins> oh
#1872 [16:14] <GV> If it was beta, it'd be simple
#1873 [16:14] <SkiingPenguins> dont go changing settings then :P
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#1875 [16:14] <MJD> hey dudes i got some questions with minecraft /techical problems)
#1876 [16:14] <GV> Shoot
#1877 [16:14] <Vadakattu> i did it by accident :"(
#1878 [16:15] <MJD> i just bought minecraft (beta) and if i login ingame i get blackscreen
#1879 [16:15] <MJD> i updated java, my drivers are correct
#1880 [16:15] <GV> MJD - Did you follow the reinstall instructions?
#1881 [16:15] <Vadakattu> mr GV, i have a feeling i may have cracked it...
#1882 [16:15] <MJD> everything already checked, but it still doesnt work
#1883 [16:15] <GV> !reinstall
#1884 [16:15] <MJD> i did
#1885 [16:15] <GV> Vadakattu - ?
#1886 [16:16] <MJD> allready reinstall
#1887 [16:16] <MJD> im using windows
#1888 [16:16] <GV> MJD - What version of windows?
#1889 [16:16] <MJD> win7
#1890 [16:16] <Vadakattu> yes, i guessed what app data would be (im a recent mac convert)
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#1892 [16:16] <GV> Vadakattu - Please do tell.
#1893 [16:16] <GV> MJD - I don't suppose you're running Aero on win7
#1894 [16:17] <Vadakattu> and despite repeatedly searching mc earlier, i have found some folder in app support>minecraft
#1895 [16:17] <GV> Huh, okay.
#1896 [16:17] <MJD> aero? i dont think t
#1897 [16:17] <MJD> *so xD
#1898 [16:17] <Vadakattu> i think i found the place you suggested earlier
#1899 [16:17] <GV> MJD - Can you check? It's a theme for your display settings
#1900 [16:18] <Miniminers512> Hey I need help this is really bad
#1901 [16:18] <Vadakattu> YESS!! i have checked, it works now, THANKYOU soooooooo much GV
#1902 [16:18] <MJD> i use my own design
#1903 [16:18] <GV> Heh, alright then Vadakattu.
#1904 [16:18] <Miniminers512> Can someone help me
#1905 [16:18] <Vadakattu> =D
#1906 [16:19] <GV> Miniminers512 - If you tell us your problem, we might be able to
#1907 [16:19] <GV> MJD - .. own design?
#1908 [16:19] <MJD> my own theme
#1909 [16:19] <MJD> there is an aero theme but i dont use it
#1910 [16:19] <Miniminers512> Ok well I downloaded a texture pack
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#1912 [16:20] <GV> MJD - Could you switch it to basic, and try running minecraft, just to check?
#1913 [16:20] <Miniminers512> But after I ran the texture pack minecraft stopped working
#1914 [16:20] <GV> Miniminers512 - What do you mean you "ran" the texture pack?
#1915 [16:20] <MJD> no change
#1916 [16:21] <GV> Did you install a texture pack in minecraft's texture packs folder? Or did you use a third party program?
#1917 [16:21] <Miniminers512> No sorry I pressed mods and texture packs
#1918 [16:21] <GV> Miniminers512 - Okay... and what texture pack did you try to install?
#1919 [16:22] <Miniminers512> Wait I froget the name brb
#1920 [16:23] <GV> MJD - Have you tried compatibility modes on minecraft? Are you administrator on Windows?
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#1922 [16:23] <Miniminers512> It's called minecraft HD
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#1924 [16:23] <k[L]m> Bonsoir un francais pourrait m'aider svp ?
#1925 [16:23] <MJD> im administrator and tried to run it as an administrator
#1926 [16:23] <GV> That would do it. You need to install that texture pack using a third party program
#1927 [16:23] <MJD> what do you mean with compatibility modes?
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#1929 [16:24] <Miniminers512> What is a third party program?
#1930 [16:24] <MJD> im german, i just dont exactly know what you mean
#1931 [16:24] <k[L]m> Bonsoir un francais pourrait m'aider svp ?
#1932 [16:24] <GV> k[L]m - Desole, Nous parlons anglais ici
#1933 [16:24] <Cam> My classic single player (in browser) wont work.
#1934 [16:25] <Arkose> Cam: have you installed the latest version of Java?
#1935 [16:25] <GV> Miniminers512 - Minecraft doesn't support HD texture packs by default. If you check the forum post or whereever you got the texture pack, it should tell you how to use a program to load it
#1936 [16:25] <Cam> uh lemme check
#1937 [16:25] <Miniminers512> No it did not
#1938 [16:25] <GV> It should be using an HD texture fix, or something to load the HD texture pack
#1939 [16:25] <k[L]m> ok I tried to talk english*
#1940 [16:26] <Miniminers512> So if I got the third party program will I need to redowload it??
#1941 [16:26] <k[L]m> I play on a server where I am admin and we ask friends how to bring up the colors
#1942 [16:26] <Miniminers512> Like redownload the texture pack
#1943 [16:27] <GV> No Miniminers512, you need to remove the texture pack from the texture pack folder first off
#1944 [16:27] <Miniminers512> Is that in run?
#1945 [16:28] <GV> Miniminers512 - Go to run, then type in: %appdata%
#1946 [16:28] <GV> Find your .minecraft folder, go inside, find the texture pack folder.
#1947 [16:28] <GV> Delete the texture pack you put in from there
#1948 [16:28] <Miniminers512> Because this may sound noobish but I can't find run on my pc I'm using XP
#1949 [16:28] <GV> then, you need to go here:
#1950 [16:28] <GV> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=46173
#1951 [16:28] <GV> Press your windows+R key
#1952 [16:29] <Miniminers512> Ok my friend told me that but I could not find it
#1953 [16:29] <GV> MJD - if you right click on minecraft.exe, there should be an option to go to properties, then a compatibility tab
#1954 [16:30] <GV> Miniminers512 - ?
#1955 [16:30] <k[L]m> GV plz help me
#1956 [16:30] <Miniminers512> Sorry it's just loading
#1957 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> k[L]m: With colours?
#1958 [16:30] <GV> k[L]m - Desole, Je ne comprends pas
#1959 [16:31] <jamster> oh dang - that hd minecraft texture pack is sweet ... can you do that server-side? or is it only a client-side thing?
#1960 [16:31] <GV> Client only for now
#1961 [16:31] <jamster> cool either way!
#1962 [16:31] <GV> Gotta run, back in a bit
#1963 [16:31] <jamster> alright cya!
#1964 [16:31] <Miniminers512> GV I got that all
#1965 [16:32] <k[L]m> what is the command to bring up the colors
#1966 [16:32] <Miniminers512> But is wondows key beside alt
#1967 [16:32] <Cam> I have the newest java and my classic singleplayer wont work
#1968 [16:32] <Miniminers512> Windows*
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#1970 [16:33] <Miniminers512> Yay it works thank god gv!!!
#1971 [16:33] <Miniminers512> Bai
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#1973 [16:33] <MJD> i runed the compatibility tab but it didnt helped / found the problem and solved it
#1974 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> k[L]m: Colored text requires server or client mods.
#1975 [16:34] <Cam> Any idea how to fix my single player classic?
#1976 [16:34] <k[L]m> Dopeghoti : I am a server admin
#1977 [16:36] <MJD> dopeghoti could you go on solving my problem? :D
#1978 [16:36] <Arkose> Cam: do the other modes work in the browser?
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#1980 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> MJD: I'm still trying to think of something else we can try that GV hasn't already walked you through
#1981 [16:37] <MJD> i think its a problem with windows
#1982 [16:37] <MJD> i downloaded minecraft on my labtop now, it runs perfectly
#1983 [16:37] <DopeGhoti> MJD: I suspect so as well, but reinstalling Windows is something of a pain.
#1984 [16:37] <DopeGhoti> well, that's good at least (:
#1985 [16:37] <DopeGhoti> k[L]m: even as an admin, coloured text requires modifies software, which is not supported here.
#1986 [16:38] <MJD> but its laggy and the labtop is for my whole family, i can actually just play it on my pc :S
#1987 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> MJD: Would you be willing to boot a Linux LiveCD to test Minecraft there?
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#1989 [16:38] <Quemada> hI.
#1990 [16:38] <Quemada> Any one can help me with a server-lag problem?
#1991 [16:38] <Cam> No
#1992 [16:38] <Quemada> Oh...
#1993 [16:39] <Quemada> Is this channel just for MineCraft help and not for the server one ?
#1994 [16:39] <Quemada> Or why?
#1995 [16:39] <MJD> i think cam says crap
#1996 [16:39] <Cam> no i wasnt talking to you
#1997 [16:39] <Arkose> Cam: go to http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp . You should either see a fancy Java thingie or a message that "something is wrong". Which do you get?
#1998 [16:39] <MJD> xD
#1999 [16:40] <MJD> ok dope... mhh so
#2000 [16:40] <MJD> what do i need to do then?
#2001 [16:40] <Cam> Fancy java thingie
#2002 [16:40] <Arkose> hmmmm
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#2004 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> MJD: Do you know how to burn a .ISO file to CD?
#2005 [16:41] <Arkose> Cam: so do you get any sort of error message or anything, or is it just a blank space where the game should be?
#2006 [16:41] <k[L]m> thank you for your reply
#2007 [16:41] <MJD> mh... not if it is different to mp3s or someting
#2008 [16:41] <Cam> black screen and i've waited a long time
#2009 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> MJD: okay, I'll take this out-of-channel as it can be a little involved (:
#2010 [16:41] <MJD> okey ;)
#2011 [16:42] <Quemada> Ah, i see.
#2012 [16:43] <Quemada> So, i have TERRIBLE lag, but just when moobs are enabled, i mean with 15 players without moobs it's OK, with 2 players and moobs it's impoosible to play.
#2013 [16:43] <Quemada> Any idea?
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#2015 [16:44] <Cam> Arkose: just a black screen
#2016 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> Quemada: don't use dial-up internet? (:
#2017 [16:44] <GV> Quemada - It could be the server that's unable to support mobs?
#2018 [16:44] <Miniminers512> Hey the problem is back
#2019 [16:45] <GV> Miniminers512 - ?
#2020 [16:45] <Quemada> GV And how can I fix that?
#2021 [16:45] <GV> Miniminers512 - Are you trying to install the HD texture pack again?
#2022 [16:45] <Miniminers512> No
#2023 [16:45] <Quemada> DopeGhoti i have 2.1mbps upstream
#2024 [16:45] <GV> Miniminers512 - Then what's the problem?
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#2027 [16:45] <Miniminers512> I'm trying to open in browser
#2028 [16:45] <GV> Quemada - Could you give us stats on the server?
#2029 [16:45] <mib_mzb5k6> hello mindcraft
#2030 [16:46] <GV> mindcraft is that way... this is minecraft
#2031 [16:46] <Cam> Im trying to open singleplayer classic and it wont work
#2032 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> hello, mib_mzb5k6
#2033 [16:46] <GV> Miniminers512 - And?
#2034 [16:47] <Quemada> Gv which stats do you mean?
#2035 [16:47] <Miniminers512> And it says unable to start because it failed to find an exelerated open gl mode
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#2037 [16:47] <GV> Miniminers512 - Um, what video card do you have?
#2038 [16:47] <GV> And are the video drivers up to date?
#2039 [16:48] <GV> Quemada - What CPU it has, how much RAM, what OS....
#2040 [16:48] <GV> How is it connected, hosted locally or off-site?
#2041 [16:48] <Quemada> 8Gb DDR3, intel i7, win7 x64
#2042 [16:48] <Quemada> hosted locally 20mbps/3mbps
#2043 [16:48] <Miniminers512> No it hasent been updated
#2044 [16:48] <Miniminers512> How can I?
#2045 [16:48] <GV> Miniminers512 - Depends on what video card you have
#2046 [16:49] <GV> Quemada - And how much RAM are you allocating to the minecraft server?
#2047 [16:49] <GV> Are you hosting anything else on the server at the same time?
#2048 [16:49] <Miniminers512> I'm not shure how do I find out?
#2049 [16:49] <GV> Miniminers512 - Press your windows+R key to bring up the run command, type in: dxdiag
#2050 [16:50] <GV> At the dxdiag window, press the "Save all information" button in the lower right
#2051 [16:50] <Quemada> GV 4B
#2052 [16:50] <Quemada> GV 4GB ***
#2053 [16:50] <Quemada> Nothing else, just the server.
#2054 [16:50] <GV> Save it as a text file in a location where you can get to it. Open it back up in notepad, copy everything there. Paste it at pastebin.com
#2055 [16:50] <GV> Give us the URL for it
#2056 [16:50] <Quemada> Without moobs, all right. With moobs. Disaster
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#2059 [16:51] <GV> Quemada - Could you pull up the server's stats when you have mobs enabled through window's task manager and look at its CPU/RAM usage?
#2060 [16:51] <Miniminers512> Gv sorry I'm kinda on my mobile and il have to wait a bit till my bro gets off
#2061 [16:51] <GV> See if there's anything there that seems off.
#2062 [16:51] <Quemada> Okay, let's see
#2063 [16:52] <GV> Miniminers512 - Ah, alright
#2064 [16:52] <GV> Quemada - You're running a vanilla version of the server, correct?
#2065 [16:53] <GV> No added special mob functionality, or other plugins?
#2066 [16:53] <Quemada> vanilla version?
#2067 [16:53] <Quemada> What is that?
#2068 [16:53] <GV> The original server by itself, downloaded from minecraft.net
#2069 [16:53] <Quemada> I just download minecraft_server.exe from minecraft
#2070 [16:53] <Quemada> yeah
#2071 [16:53] <GV> Not modded in any way
#2072 [16:53] <Quemada> not modded
#2073 [16:53] <Quemada> it sais
#2074 [16:54] <Quemada> "Memory use: 55mb (98% free(
#2075 [16:54] <Quemada> Threads: 0 + 0
#2076 [16:54] <GV> Yeah, that's from the server's console, that's normal
#2077 [16:54] <GV> How about from window's task manager, when you experience the problem?
#2078 [16:55] <Quemada> JAVA.EXE
#2079 [16:55] <Quemada> 6 % CPU USE
#2080 [16:55] <Quemada> 275.000 KB
#2081 [16:56] <mindcraftnoob> how do I ask for help here?
#2082 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> mindcraftnoob: you just did.
#2083 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> mindcraftnoob: simply ask (:
#2084 [16:56] <mindcraftnoob> lol ok
#2085 [16:57] <mindcraftnoob> mindcraft won't play today : I don't know why, after loading up mindcraft to one of the levels, the window just closes and shuts down.
#2086 [16:57] <GV> Quemada - How about javaw.exe, since you're running minecraft_server.exe
#2087 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> mindcraftnoob: you don't see any errors or anything?
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#2089 [16:57] <Quemada> JAVAW.EXE
#2090 [16:57] <Quemada> 10% CPU use
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#2092 [16:57] <Quemada> 650.000KB
#2093 [16:57] <Wahrheit> xales: http://summaxr.com/Forum/topic/8835-pvp-its-coming/
#2094 [16:57] <mindcraftnoob> no sir no errors just shut down
#2095 [16:57] <Quemada> is there anyway to spawn less zombies?
#2096 [16:57] <Wahrheit> xales: am I missing anything?
#2097 [16:57] <GV> Quemada - Hmm, no. Not with the original server file
#2098 [16:58] <Quemada> java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: socket write error
#2099 [16:58] <Quemada> at java.net.SocketOutputStream.socketWrite0(Native Method)
#2100 [16:58] <Quemada> at java.net.SocketOutputStream.socketWrite(Unknown Source)
#2101 [16:58] <Quemada> at java.net.SocketOutputStream.write(Unknown Source)
#2102 [16:58] <Quemada> at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeInt(Unknown Source)
#2103 [16:58] <Quemada> at kl.a(SourceFile:55)
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#2106 [16:58] <Quemada> IS THAT NORMAL
#2107 [16:58] <Quemada> ?
#2108 [16:58] <nastjuid> so these .mclevels are only useable for single player?
#2109 [16:58] <Quemada> sorry
#2110 [16:58] <Quemada> is that normal?
#2111 [16:58] <Wahrheit> Quemada: pastie.org
#2112 [16:58] <Wahrheit> Quemada: pastebin.com
#2113 [16:58] <GV> Quemada - What brand of network card do you have?
#2114 [16:58] <Quemada> Okey, sorry.
#2115 [16:59] <Quemada> brand?
#2116 [16:59] <GV> Yes
#2117 [16:59] <Quemada> what's that?
#2118 [16:59] <Quemada> sorry about my englihs :S im form spain
#2119 [16:59] <GV> The name of the manufacturer that produced your network card
#2120 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> mindcraftnoob: what OS and version of Java are you running?
#2121 [16:59] <Quemada> RaLink
#2122 [16:59] <Quemada> i think
#2123 [17:00] <Quemada> but i think network card is not the problem
#2124 [17:00] <GV> That's from your device manager in windows?
#2125 [17:00] <GV> I think it is
#2126 [17:00] <mindcraftnoob> java update 6 12 i think
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#2128 [17:00] <Quemada> Why without moobs it works properly, then?
#2129 [17:00] <Quemada> :S
#2130 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> mindcraftnoob: try getting the latest; update 23
#2131 [17:00] <Lunalux> hi
#2132 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> Lunalux: Salutations.
#2133 [17:00] <Lunalux> can someone help me? i have a problem with making my pc to a little beta server
#2134 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> Lunalux: we can try. Could you elaborate on your problems a little?
#2135 [17:00] <GV> Quemada - Mobs do increase server-side lag significantly, pushing some network cards over the edge
#2136 [17:01] <GV> Could you check the manufacturer of your NIC from Windows' device manager?
#2137 [17:01] <Lunalux> everytime i start my server and conect it works. but when my friend joined the server i got internet disconnect
#2138 [17:02] <GV> Lunalux - Did you port forward?
#2139 [17:02] <Lunalux> yes
#2140 [17:02] <nastjuid> the error was just internet disconnect?
#2141 [17:02] <GV> Oh wait, your internet gets disconnected?
#2142 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> Lunalux: so when your friends connects to your server, your entire Internet connection dies?
#2143 [17:02] <Wahrheit> Quemada: Que paso?
#2144 [17:02] <Lunalux> yes
#2145 [17:02] <Lunalux> he can make a server.. but his pc is too bad
#2146 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> That's.. wow.
#2147 [17:02] <Lunalux> and when i try the same..
#2148 [17:02] <Lunalux> bam.. internet disco..
#2149 [17:02] <GV> Common problem Lunalux
#2150 [17:02] <GV> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internet_crashes_after_about_5_minutes_connected_to_a_smp_server
#2151 [17:03] <Wahrheit> Quemada: Que es tu problema?
#2152 [17:03] <GV> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/smp_server_destabilizes_internet_connection
#2153 [17:03] <Quemada> Wahrheit tu sabes mas o menos dep roblemas con servers?
#2154 [17:03] <GV> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internet_crashes_when_anyone_joins_my_smp_server
#2155 [17:03] <Quemada> Wahrheit cuando activo los zombies el server me va MUY lagaado
#2156 [17:03] <Wahrheit> Quemada: Claro. :)
#2157 [17:03] <Wahrheit> Quemada: Si, lo necesario el mejor CPU
#2158 [17:03] <Lunalux> :(
#2159 [17:03] <Lunalux> if i go to a other server i dont have this problem
#2160 [17:04] <Lunalux> only if i host..
#2161 [17:04] <Lunalux> :(
#2162 [17:04] <Wahrheit> Lunalux: Don't host and play at the same time
#2163 [17:04] <Quemada> no es la CPU
#2164 [17:04] <Quemada> tengo un i7
#2165 [17:04] <GV> Lunalux - Right, there's something about a certain configuration, or a way a person hosts and plays at the same time..
#2166 [17:04] <Quemada> y no me llega ni al 15%
#2167 [17:04] <GV> That causes this problem
#2168 [17:04] <Wahrheit> Quemada: Es server, no client
#2169 [17:04] <Wahrheit> Quemada: Yo tengo i7 975x :)
#2170 [17:05] <Lunalux> so i cant do anything.. right? Oo
#2171 [17:05] <Quemada> y porque no pone mi pc al maximo?
#2172 [17:05] <Wahrheit> Quemada: Porque tienes un conexion no est'a tan fuerte...
#2173 [17:05] <GV> Lunalux - Try hosting on one computer, and playing off another?
#2174 [17:06] <Lunalux> hmm.. and when i try to make my pc host.. and play on the laptop maybe this would work?
#2175 [17:06] <Lunalux> xD
#2176 [17:06] <Wahrheit> Quemada: Es mas bueno si usas un "dedi".
#2177 [17:06] <Wahrheit> Entiendes?
#2178 [17:06] <nastjuid> is it possible to run and run and run and actually get away from the snow?
#2179 [17:06] <GV> Yes nastjuid
#2180 [17:06] <Quemada> Si, entiendo
#2181 [17:06] <Wahrheit> Quemada: tengo un server con "Multiplay"
#2182 [17:06] <Wahrheit> MUY buen organizacion
#2183 [17:07] <Wahrheit> Hablas mucho ingles, o por lo menos un poco?
#2184 [17:07] <Quemada> Si, hablo bastante
#2185 [17:07] <Quemada> oe
#2186 [17:07] <Quemada> oye
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#2188 [17:07] <Kealper> he types fast
#2189 [17:07] <GV> Need to get Kealper to increase the number of lines that kick/bans on
#2190 [17:07] <Wahrheit> He does :p
#2191 [17:08] * GV pokes Kealper
#2191 [17:08] <Wahrheit> Kealper make it less often to ban
#2192 [17:08] <nastjuid> GV: does it matter which direction?
#2193 [17:08] <Wahrheit> Spanish is a fast language
#2194 [17:08] <GV> nastjuid - Nope
#2195 [17:08] <nastjuid> if only I could pick up my structure and move it :| thanks!
#2196 [17:08] <GV> You could... with a map editor
#2197 [17:08] <GV> MCedit provides "schematic" import/export capabilities
#2198 [17:09] <nastjuid> actually, I think I want to build something new now that I know what not to do for a building. Though I'm going to miss my gkylined glass floored pool
#2199 [17:09] <GV> Kealper - Think it might be a good idea to increase it to 5 lines before a kick?
#2200 [17:10] <Wahrheit> It should be 5 lines and it shouldn't be a kick, maybe just a mute?
#2201 [17:10] <Wahrheit> or something
#2202 [17:10] <GV> Mute wouldn't work..
#2203 [17:10] <Kealper> i could just make it ban without a kick
#2204 [17:10] <Kealper> that'd make it so they could not talk while the ban was on
#2205 [17:10] <GV> Hmm, that'd work.
#2206 [17:11] <Kealper> i'll just set it to tell them that they can't talk for like 10 sec or something after a spam
#2207 [17:11] <Wahrheit> That's a good idea :p
#2208 [17:11] <Kealper> want me to set the time needed to trigger it down? (make it trigger less-often)
#2209 [17:12] * GV nods
#2209 [17:12] <Kealper> i could set it to 3 messages in 1.5 sec
#2210 [17:12] <Wahrheit> yes pls
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#2213 [17:14] <Kealper> !reload mod_nospam
#2214 [17:14] <Wahrheit> Kealper: You should +v me for Spanish techsupport
#2215 [17:14] <Wahrheit> Because I am relatively knowledgable and I speak spanish
#2216 [17:14] <Wahrheit> :DDD
#2217 [17:14] <Kealper> +v is given, not requested :P
#2218 [17:14] <GV> omgspamtest
#2219 [17:14] <Kealper> aubot wtf
#2220 [17:14] <GV> omgspamtest
#2221 [17:14] <GV> omgspamtest
#2222 [17:14] <GV> omgspamtest
#2223 [17:14] <Wahrheit> Lol
#2224 [17:15] <MJD> fail?
#2225 [17:15] <Wahrheit> Kealper: And yet the fallacy exists that sometimes if you don't ask you will never receive. Just know I'm here. :p
#2226 [17:15] <GV> Guess it works, though, can you change nicks while +b is set?
#2227 [17:15] <relsqui> do redstone circuits have to be level, or can they move up and down?
#2228 [17:15] <GV> they can move
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#2230 [17:15] <Kealper> idk, want me to ban you and have you try to nickchange?
#2231 [17:15] <mindcraftnoob> am using 6.22-1 sun-java-jre : is there a way to clear all and reset my mindcraft files?
#2232 [17:16] <Kealper> mindcraftnoob: yes, follow the instructions inthe link below
#2233 [17:16] <Kealper> !reinstall
#2234 [17:16] <Wahrheit> >mindcraft
#2235 [17:16] <relsqui> GV: do I just lay it like track?
#2236 [17:16] <Wahrheit> >MFW
#2237 [17:16] <Wahrheit> >MFW SO HARD
#2238 [17:16] <GV> relsqui - Basically, yes
#2239 [17:16] <relsqui> okay
#2240 [17:16] <relsqui> thanks
#2241 [17:16] <GV> bah, what's chanserv's mode command.
#2242 [17:16] <Cam> I need help..
#2243 [17:17] <relsqui> (I realized I've put cart tracks across where I'd otherwise need the circuit to be
#2244 [17:17] <nastjuid> Cam: with?
#2245 [17:17] <Kealper> isn't it just op #channel?
#2246 [17:17] <Cam> my single player classic wont work
#2247 [17:17] <GV> Oh bah, I can't use chanserv to set +b?
#2248 [17:18] <Kealper> wut?
#2249 [17:18] <nastjuid> I'm not knowledgeable about that. Someone here can probably help you if you can describe how far you get and which part isn't working.
#2250 [17:18] <Kealper> you are not set to +b anymore
#2251 [17:18] <nastjuid> You'd need op to set +b I'd think
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#2253 [17:18] <GV> No, I mean, other networks have modes available to chanserv, other than op/voicing
#2254 [17:18] <Cam> well pretty much everything i start it up all i get is a black screen
#2255 [17:18] <GV> except for this one
#2256 [17:19] <Lunalux> erf.. doesnt work with 2 pcs.. xD same problem as before
#2257 [17:19] <Kealper> oh...yeah these services really suck, they are very basic :/
#2258 [17:19] <GV> I can unban with chanserv...
#2259 [17:19] <GV> But I can't set a ban
#2260 [17:19] * GV kicks this IRCd
#2260 [17:19] <Kealper> did you just want me to set mode +b on you for testing? lol
#2261 [17:20] <Kealper> heck, you could have just typed .set mode GV +b
#2262 [17:20] <Kealper> :/
#2263 [17:20] <lemon-rev> does anyone know what machinima realm is useing for there live steam
#2264 [17:20] <nastjuid> Cam: which version of java are you using?
#2265 [17:20] <lemon-rev> like
#2266 [17:20] <wellthen> So yeah
#2267 [17:20] <lemon-rev> hm, ip or crap for there minecraft thing
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#2269 [17:21] <GV> Might want to do it by hostmask instead of just nick
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#2271 [17:21] <Kealper> probably, gimme a few to parse out to give an ip ban instead of nick ban
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#2273 [17:28] <mindcraftnoob> darn clearing my tmp files didn't work, am going to try a reboot and see if that will help
#2274 [17:29] <Kealper> !reload mod_nospam
#2275 [17:29] <Kealper> ok, GV spam to see if i got that parsing right lol
#2276 [17:29] <Kealper> well, anyone spam
#2277 [17:30] <Elvang> 1
#2278 [17:30] <Elvang> 2
#2279 [17:30] <Elvang> 3
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#2281 [17:30] <Elvang> No more kicking?
#2282 [17:30] <Kealper> no, banning will make them unable to talk
#2283 [17:31] <Kealper> and it also waits 10 sec before unbanning instead of 5
#2284 [17:31] <Elvang> Whats it triggering on now?
#2285 [17:31] <Elvang> Just for future reference ;)
#2286 [17:31] <Kealper> 3 messages in 1.5 sec
#2287 [17:32] <Kealper> so it gives fast typers a bit more leaway before shutting them up
#2288 [17:32] <Kealper> but usually the only people it gets false positives on are using the enter key as a space bar, but whatever :/
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#2291 [17:34] <Itty> Hello
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#2293 [17:35] <Itty> Is this a good channel to get some MC help?
#2294 [17:35] <oxE1> Depends on question
#2295 [17:35] <Itty> Well I've setup a MC server, I think, but no one can connect.
#2296 [17:36] <lemon-rev> whats the ip your trying to connect to
#2297 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: that's not a false positive (:
#2298 [17:36] <oxE1> Do you use .jar version or .exe?
#2299 [17:36] <Itty> .jar
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#2301 [17:36] <oxE1> I had problems with .jar, try .exe
#2302 [17:36] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: that's why i JUST now "fixed" it :P
#2303 [17:37] <aetherian> heya
#2304 [17:37] <aetherian> hey kealps, finish that prog?
#2305 [17:37] <oxE1> with .jar i always had "not logged in" or something like that, and it was looks like old for me oO
#2306 [17:37] <Itty> that's what I'm getting
#2307 [17:37] <Itty> the login seems to go ok but never actually response to the clients
#2308 [17:37] <oxE1> In that casse try .exe, it solved my problem
#2309 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> !check www.minecraft.net:80
#2310 [17:38] <Itty> Will bukkit work on the .exe?
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#2312 [17:39] <oxE1> Well, as for bukkit with exe, i really don't know, sorry
#2313 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> Itty: If you want help with Bukkit, /join #bukkit and ask there.
#2314 [17:39] <Itty> Is there a way to do the whitelist without bukkit?
#2315 [17:40] <aetherian> no
#2316 [17:40] <aetherian> just do a blacklist
#2317 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> Or don't invite jerks to your server (:
#2318 [17:41] <Itty> ok cool, thanks
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#2320 [17:42] <aetherian> has kealps finished that program?
#2321 [17:43] <oxE1> btw, i was able to connect to .jar server from minecraft site, but it was liiks like a alpha server, without inventory and with instant block destroy oO
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#2323 [17:43] <aetherian> o.o
#2324 [17:43] <aetherian> mod probs
#2325 [17:43] <aetherian> orrr
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#2327 [17:43] <aetherian> maybe it was classic
#2328 [17:44] <bengee> hello
#2329 [17:44] <oxE1> there was no mods, and jar was downloaded from minecraft site 30 minutes before i tried exe )
#2330 [17:44] <aetherian> hello
#2331 [17:44] <bengee> I'm having trouble accessing my account
#2332 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> bengee: define 'trouble'
#2333 [17:44] <bengee> I can login to minecraft.net, but it says that I need to purchase the game to play
#2334 [17:44] <bengee> I purchased the game on 9/28/2010
#2335 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> bengee: What is your minecraft username?
#2336 [17:44] <bengee> bengee
#2337 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> !paid bengee
#2338 [17:45] <bengee> Yes, yes I have.
#2339 [17:45] <bengee> This is the trouble.
#2340 [17:45] <oxE1> !paid oxe1
#2341 [17:45] <SkiingPenguins> !paid SkiingPenguins
#2342 [17:45] <aetherian> :O
#2343 [17:45] <oxE1> !paid 0xe1
#2344 [17:45] <aetherian> !paid aetherian
#2345 [17:45] <aetherian> :D
#2346 [17:45] <SkiingPenguins> meow..?
#2347 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> bengee: email daniel@mojang.com with your payment confirmation information
#2348 [17:45] <aetherian> no response >.>
#2349 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: flood lockout
#2350 [17:45] <bengee> thanks. I sent it to support@mojang.com this morning, but didn't hear anything back
#2351 [17:45] <aetherian> did grey set up an ignore just for me?
#2352 [17:45] <aetherian> oh
#2353 [17:45] <oxE1> good point )
#2354 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> bengee: support@ probably gets roughly 5.2 gigaEmails daily
#2355 [17:46] <aetherian> heh
#2356 [17:46] <GV> bengee, suppport has over 30k emails in backlog last we heard
#2357 [17:46] <bengee> Approximately how many does daniel receive?
#2358 [17:46] <GV> Poor daniel, probably has something close to that
#2359 [17:47] <bengee> I kid. thanks for your help
#2360 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> now that dan's email address is "known", it's probably in pretty poor shape too
#2361 [17:47] <GV> Yeah
#2362 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> he's a trooper, that one.
#2363 [17:47] <GV> Poor bastard
#2364 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> I'd happily volunteer some of my time slogging through their mailbag, trying to help people out and weed out FAQs and SEPs.
#2365 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> but clearly, that's not going to happen
#2366 [17:50] <bengee> thanks again, DopeGhoti
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#2368 [17:50] <bengee> I appreciate your assistance
#2369 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> bengee: cheers!
#2370 [17:51] <bengee> Does this sort of thing happen often?
#2371 [17:51] <bengee> just curious
#2372 [17:51] <oxE1> i wounder if i'll try rewrite server to c#, will it have same perfomance
#2373 [17:51] <oxE1> or maybe obj-c, but it will be really complicated xD
#2374 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> oxE1: but then it would be less portable.
#2375 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> oxE1: Java may be a retarded red-headed stepchild, but at least it's cross-platform.
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#2377 [17:54] <Spotco> Hi
#2378 [17:54] <Spotco> Can someone give me the link to modloader?
#2379 [17:54] <oxE1> As for Portability, true, mono is not a good in perfomance in some cases =\
#2380 [17:54] <Spotco> And instructions on how to install
#2381 [17:56] <oxE1> Spotco: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=80246
#2382 [18:02] <Spotco> Installation Windows: 1) Open up %appdata%, if you don't know how to do this, start>run, then type in %appdata% 2) Browse to .minecraft/bin 3) Open up minecraft.jar with WinRAR or 7zip. 4) Drag and drop the necessary files into the jar. 5) Delete the META-INF folder in the jar. 6) Run Minecraft, enjoy!
#2383 [18:02] <Spotco> I get black screen
#2384 [18:02] <oxE1> black screen or black window?
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#2386 [18:03] <Adi> hi all
#2387 [18:03] <Spotco> Game window
#2388 [18:03] <oxE1> greetings
#2389 [18:03] <Spotco> Ok i changed it to java
#2390 [18:03] <Spotco> works
#2391 [18:03] <Spotco> Thanks
#2392 [18:03] <Spotco> But how do i use it?
#2393 [18:03] <Adi> i have a small question^^ Why does it not work, to load custom skins? sry 4 my bad english
#2394 [18:04] <oxE1> Well, actually it does work, load it and try to look yourself in-game
#2395 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> Adi: Skins should be working now, or so I thought.
#2396 [18:04] <oxE1> it just does not show your skin on site
#2397 [18:04] <Adi> ah ok. i just test it
#2398 [18:05] <Spotco> Im trying to install zan's minimap mod
#2399 [18:05] <Spotco> But it gives me a whole bunch of png files
#2400 [18:05] <Spotco> What do i do with them?
#2401 [18:05] <Spotco> theres 2 .class files and like 8 .png
#2402 [18:05] <Adi> lol wtf now it works :D:D thanx a lot
#2403 [18:07] <Adi> ah btw a other question. I have turned off all animals and monsters in the server properties. but there are sometimes monsters. but no animals. What am i doing wrong?
#2404 [18:07] <oxE1> Spotco, i really don't know, i never tried to install any mods )
#2405 [18:07] <Spotco> o ok
#2406 [18:07] <oxE1> Adi, they might spawn if server mod is different from peaceful as i know
#2407 [18:08] <Adi> ah thx. how can i disable that?
#2408 [18:08] <lemon-rev> oxe1 and adi no help from here , this channel doesnt or shound not deal with mods
#2409 [18:08] <lemon-rev> it helps but not mods
#2410 [18:09] <oxE1> as for last Adi question, not related too?
#2411 [18:09] <lemon-rev> what disable a mod
#2412 [18:09] <lemon-rev> you cant i dont think,
#2413 [18:10] <Adi> hm.. then i ask in a other way. how to set the server up to peaceful?
#2414 [18:10] <lemon-rev> unless you i think its like select texture mod in minecraft but theres no reverting back, unless you do a fresh instal
#2415 [18:10] <lemon-rev> you need to make a text file
#2416 [18:10] <lemon-rev> but i dont know what you end up calling things like that
#2417 [18:11] <oxE1> Adi, your server have any mods or it's plain server?
#2418 [18:11] <GV> Adi - If you disable mob spawning and pvp mode, it switches the server to peacful
#2419 [18:11] <Adi> thx GV !!! :D
#2420 [18:11] <oxE1> thx GV, i was looking for that too )
#2421 [18:12] <Adi> so i know everything what i want^^ u are all my heroes :D i go sleep now. gn8
#2422 [18:12] <GV> Laters
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#2424 [18:13] <esper_Keytsu> Hi
#2425 [18:13] <GV> 'lo
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#2427 [18:14] <esper_Keytsu> i can't go on the site why ?
#2428 [18:14] <GV> ?
#2429 [18:14] <GV> !isdown minecraft.net
#2430 [18:14] <GreyBot> GV: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2431 [18:14] <pole> hi akk
#2432 [18:14] <GV> Site's up
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#2434 [18:14] <pole> i want know a ip for good Server PVP please
#2435 [18:15] <oxE1> pole, that's a wrong channel to ask i think
#2436 [18:15] <pole> i'm french , there are many chanel
#2437 [18:15] <pole> i can't try another
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#2439 [18:16] <esper_Keytsu> yep but its down for me
#2440 [18:16] <oxE1> Is access to player skin restricted? I'm getting AccessDenied error when trying to view my skin via browser =\
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#2443 [18:17] <esper_Keytsu> Someone can help me ?
#2444 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> esper_Keytsu: with?
#2445 [18:19] <oxE1> esper, not really much can help here, from our side the server is accessible, except icmp
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#2447 [18:19] <Itty> Hello
#2448 [18:20] <Itty> I was in before about an issue with my MC server
#2449 [18:20] <esper_Keytsu> okey thx
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#2451 [18:20] <Itty> You guys told me that I wasn't able to accept connections because I was using the .jar instead of the .exe
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#2453 [18:20] <oxE1> Well, that was one of versions, that helped me
#2454 [18:21] <AndrewPH|AFK> oxE1, if you get an access denied message, it means you have to reupload the skin.
#2455 [18:21] <Itty> I just tried the .exe and it gives the same error
#2456 [18:21] <Itty> At this point I'm fairly convinced that it's my system that I'm running it on but I can't figure out what exactly is causing it
#2457 [18:22] <GV> what error Itty ?
#2458 [18:22] <Itty> Give me one sec and I'll reproduce it
#2459 [18:23] <oxE1> AndrewPH, strange, the skin itself is ok from in-game, as for site as i understand it doesn't show current skin, i have tried that link: http://www.minecraft.net/skin/0xe1.png
#2460 [18:23] <AndrewPH|AFK> http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/0xE1.png
#2461 [18:23] <AndrewPH|AFK> case snsitive
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#2463 [18:24] <oxE1> oh, goood point, i forgot about that, thank you
#2464 [18:24] <Itty> Actually I have a forum post with the details
#2465 [18:24] <Itty> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=174251
#2466 [18:25] <Itty> But so far no one on the forum has been able to help.
#2467 [18:27] <Itty> If anyone has any ideas I'd be happy to hear them.
#2468 [18:27] <xales> Itty: Do you have any firewall or antivirus running on the server itself?
#2469 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> Itty: in particular, ZoneAlarm?
#2470 [18:28] <Wisp> Is it possible for snow tiles to respawn spread like grass?
#2471 [18:28] <xales> Wisp: Not currently, no
#2472 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> Wisp: not presently.
#2473 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> it used to be, on snowy servers.
#2474 [18:30] <Itty> My only firewall is on my DD WRT router which is forwarding port 25565
#2475 [18:30] <Itty> The Windows 7 Firewall had an exception added, then I turned it off, then I killed the service
#2476 [18:30] <Itty> And my AV is Microsoft Security Essentials
#2477 [18:31] <oxE1> with same firewall and anti-virus i had no issues..
#2478 [18:31] <oxE1> what Java version you have?
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#2480 [18:33] <aetherian> is nevercast on?
#2481 [18:33] * aetherian looks
#2481 [18:33] <aetherian> aww
#2482 [18:33] <aetherian> kabi
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#2486 [18:42] <Itty> JRE 6 Update 23
#2487 [18:42] <Itty> latest
#2488 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> Gesundheit.
#2489 [18:43] <oxE1> o_O
#2490 [18:43] <Benwin> I have a ridiculous question for you guys...
#2491 [18:43] <Benwin> Are any of you nurses/doctors?
#2492 [18:43] <oxE1> only if in cae of computers and hardware..
#2493 [18:44] <oxE1> you should probably call emergancy if something have happened
#2494 [18:44] <aetherian> lol
#2495 [18:44] <Benwin> haha
#2496 [18:44] <Benwin> Nothing's really happened.
#2497 [18:44] <aetherian> benwin, is your computer in that bad a shape?
#2498 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: Coming to IRC for medical advice: Bad Idea.
#2499 [18:44] <Benwin> I've just been getting wicked dizzy spells the past week or so.
#2500 [18:44] <aetherian> well, who here's played some medical game
#2501 [18:44] <aetherian> and didn't take pleasure in hacking people up with scalpels
#2502 [18:45] <Benwin> <--
#2503 [18:45] <aetherian> *not me
#2504 [18:45] <aetherian> physician, heal thyself
#2505 [18:45] <Itty> If you're getting dizzy it may be blood pressure
#2506 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> Benwin: any particular pattern?
#2507 [18:45] <Itty> Do you know your normal numbers?
#2508 [18:46] <xales> DopeGhoti: Someone came to #help asking if it was safe to take some medication designed for cows because it was cheaper than the medication he had been prescribed
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#2510 [18:46] <arensirb> Is there a problem with the website and skin update thingie?
#2511 [18:46] <Benwin> Mainly when I sit/stand up quickly, or if I turn my head really quickly.
#2512 [18:46] <aetherian> benwin, try taking some N2O
#2513 [18:46] <xales> arensirb: Not to my knowledge
#2514 [18:46] <Benwin> I know sitting/standing quickly can cause dizziness, but this is severe...
#2515 [18:46] <aetherian> it makes you happier
#2516 [18:46] <aetherian> and
#2517 [18:46] <oxE1> arensirb: the only problem ith that you cannot see your current skin, but you can upload
#2518 [18:46] <aetherian> I think it's an anasthetic
#2519 [18:47] <aetherian> (it's laughing gas)
#2520 [18:47] <arensirb> Aha
#2521 [18:47] <Benwin> It's so bad that it causes tunnel vision, and I nearly pass out.
#2522 [18:47] <arensirb> oxE1: So it probably is uploaded?
#2523 [18:47] <aetherian> benwin: quit staying up till 5 and waking up at 6
#2524 [18:47] <aetherian> ...am
#2525 [18:47] <Itty> If you start getting tunnel vision you need to start taking shallow fast breaths to recover and take your blood pressure
#2526 [18:48] <Itty> if it's high or low you need to see a real doctor
#2527 [18:48] <aetherian> get some sleep
#2528 [18:48] <oxE1> arensirb, yeah, check in few minutes in-game
#2529 [18:48] <Benwin> I can hear my heart beat if I lay my head on my left arm, it's normal-ish sounding, but the beats are a little faster than I remember them ever being.
#2530 [18:49] <GV> Benwin - Taking any medication currently?
#2531 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> Benwin: this sounds like low blood pressure, which I also have. If this is not normal for you, I would seriously advice you to call your physician.
#2532 [18:49] <GV> ^
#2533 [18:49] <aetherian> *get some rest btw
#2534 [18:49] * GV also gets that as well, but is normal for me
#2534 [18:49] <aetherian> do you have a headache with your dizziness?
#2535 [18:49] <oxE1> I see better when drunk, but i know the reason ))
#2536 [18:50] <aetherian> lul
#2537 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> (have you eaten today? It could also be low blood sugar)
#2538 [18:50] <aetherian> eat? who eats nowadays?
#2539 [18:50] <Benwin> It's been going on for about a week.
#2540 [18:50] <aetherian> I deleted that skill to make room for minecraft
#2541 [18:50] <Benwin> I haven't changed diet, either.
#2542 [18:50] <Benwin> And I'm not getting any more/less exercise/physical activity than ever.
#2543 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> Benwin: I am being very very serious: Call your physician. This could be a symptom of any number of potentially fatal things.
#2544 [18:51] <aetherian> like inspontaneous combustion :O
#2545 [18:51] * GV baps aetherian
#2545 [18:51] <Benwin> :|
#2546 [18:51] <aetherian> well, obviosuly it's not spontaneous
#2547 [18:51] <aetherian> or he'd be gone
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#2549 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> It could also just be a cold, but if it's been going on for a week, it's doctor time.
#2550 [18:52] * GV agrees with Dope
#2550 [18:52] <Itty> Hmm, another forum poster with the same problem I'm seeing, and no one has been able to help him either.
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#2552 [18:53] <retro> Guys, I need help
#2553 [18:53] <Benwin> It's not a cold. My immune system is rock-solid considering the fact that my spleen is gone.
#2554 [18:53] <xales> retro: With?
#2555 [18:53] <retro> Minecraft keeps deleting my constructions
#2556 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> you may have come to the right place, retro.
#2557 [18:54] <retro> :(
#2558 [18:54] <xales> retro: "Deleting"?
#2559 [18:54] <GV> Itty, manufacturer of your NIC?
#2560 [18:54] <retro> Yea
#2561 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> online or single-palyer?
#2562 [18:54] <xales> ^
#2563 [18:54] <retro> Single player. I build, log out, and when I log back in its all gone.
#2564 [18:54] <GV> classic or beta?
#2565 [18:54] <Benwin> I'll go to the hospital if it gets any worse/doesn't get better. Thanks, DopeGhoti.
#2566 [18:54] <Itty> how do you log out retro?
#2567 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> Benwin: no need for the hospital yet, just make an appointment with your regular physician.
#2568 [18:55] <retro> its driving me nuts. I click log out on the browser
#2569 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> (unless you start passing out or something)
#2570 [18:55] <Itty> browser?
#2571 [18:55] <Itty> you're playing online only?
#2572 [18:55] <xales> retro: Are you playing Classic?
#2573 [18:55] <GV> Itty, manufacturer of your NIC?
#2574 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> retro: This is Classic mode?
#2575 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> (aka 'Creative'?)
#2576 [18:55] <Benwin> GV: I take 30-90mg of Oxycodone in a typical day because of severe nerve damage in my lower back/spine (T4/5 and T5/S1 radiculopathy)
#2577 [18:56] <Benwin> But I haven't needed it more than a couple days this week.
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#2579 [18:56] <Itty> GV: Atheros (onboard to my ASUS MoBo), and VirtualBox Virtual NIC
#2580 [18:56] <Kaya> Bad video card drivers!
#2581 [18:56] <Kaya> -----------------------
#2582 [18:56] <Kaya> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#2583 [18:56] <Kaya> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#2584 [18:56] <GV> Itty, that would do it
#2585 [18:56] <retro> Um
#2586 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> Kaya: don't do that please.
#2587 [18:56] <retro> I'm not quite sure
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#2589 [18:56] <Kaya> sorry
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#2591 [18:56] <Itty> GV: What would?
#2592 [18:56] <Benwin> and I take 300mg of Lyrica for nerve damage in my lower spine and left thigh
#2593 [18:56] <retro> I think its survivAL
#2594 [18:56] <Itty> the virtual box?
#2595 [18:56] <Kaya> i accidentally pressed it
#2596 [18:56] <xales> Kaya: Did you update your video card drivers? ._.
#2597 [18:56] <oxE1> Kaya, use pastebin
#2598 [18:56] <Kaya> erm
#2599 [18:56] <xales> retro: Did you buy Minecraft?
#2600 [18:56] <Kaya> what does that mean?
#2601 [18:56] <GV> Itty - It's your NIC, atheros is renowned for having issues with minecraft
#2602 [18:56] <retro> Mhm.
#2603 [18:56] <Kaya> whats pastebin?
#2604 [18:56] <GV> causing socket write errors
#2605 [18:56] * DopeGhoti adds "What is Pastebin" to the FAQ list.
#2605 [18:56] <Itty> serious ?
#2606 [18:56] <xales> retro: What URL are you playing at?
#2607 [18:57] <Kaya> k
#2608 [18:57] <xales> Kaya: http://pastebin.com/
#2609 [18:57] <GV> Itty- Yes. I'm serious
#2610 [18:57] <GV> Google "Minecraft + atheros"
#2611 [18:57] <Itty> GV: How can we confirm it?
#2612 [18:57] <SkiingPenguins> yes
#2613 [18:57] <retro> at http://www.minecraft.net/game/
#2614 [18:57] <GV> Confirm it? You just did
#2615 [18:57] <Kaya> so...
#2616 [18:57] <SkiingPenguins> quite a few people have come in here with atheros problems, Itty
#2617 [18:57] <xales> retro: Use the download client
#2618 [18:57] <Kaya> what do i do
#2619 [18:57] <Kaya> to like
#2620 [18:57] <Kaya> update my video card ><
#2621 [18:57] <GV> You're experiencing socket write errors, and running an atheros nic
#2622 [18:57] <xales> Kaya: What kind of compuer do you have
#2623 [18:57] <Kaya> im a compu idiot
#2624 [18:57] <Kaya> erm
#2625 [18:57] <Kaya> a laptop
#2626 [18:57] <Kaya> lg
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#2628 [18:58] <Itty> yup
#2629 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> LG makes laptops now?
#2630 [18:58] <Kaya> lol
#2631 [18:58] <xales> Kaya: Windows 7 or Vista?
#2632 [18:58] <Kaya> yep =P
#2633 [18:58] <SkiingPenguins> they do?
#2634 [18:58] <Kaya> erm
#2635 [18:58] <Kaya> neither
#2636 [18:58] <Kaya> XP.
#2637 [18:58] <DrDash> hey everybody
#2638 [18:58] <GV> Itty - That's the confirmation you need. Either switch to *nix, get a new NIC, or wait for a fix.
#2639 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> does it have an 'ATI' or 'NVIDIA' sticker on it?
#2640 [18:58] <Kaya> wait
#2641 [18:59] <xales> Kaya: Click Start->run->type "dxdiag" in the box and hit enter->click Yes->click "Save Log"->save on your desktop->open the file you saved->copy the contents, and paste it on http://pastebin.com/ ->click submit->give us the URL it sends you to
#2642 [18:59] <xales> hello DrDash
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#2644 [18:59] <retro> @Xales, the donwload content messes up big time. I constantly get black screens of death and it resests my constructions
#2645 [18:59] <DrDash> mincraft is so awesome:P
#2646 [18:59] <GV> Indeed it is DrDash
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#2648 [19:00] <DrDash> heheh
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#2650 [19:00] <xales> retro: How much RAM does your computer have?
#2651 [19:00] <mib_0zhzcd> Hello guys i'm on about buying minecraft but i get a few questions, can some one help me?
#2652 [19:00] <xales> mib_0zhzcd: Depends on the questions
#2653 [19:00] <GV> Concerning what mib_0zhzcd ?
#2654 [19:00] <xales> go ahead and ask
#2655 [19:00] <DrDash> sure, i can
#2656 [19:00] <mib_0zhzcd> ok
#2657 [19:01] <mib_0zhzcd> umm 1) if i buy it do i have full access to all updates and features?
#2658 [19:01] <GV> Yes
#2659 [19:01] <SkiingPenguins> xales: people dont see AuBot's "dont ask to ask" do they?
#2660 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> Yes, notwithstanding "expansion packs".
#2661 [19:01] <xales> SkiingPenguins: They don't see the topic either
#2662 [19:01] <mib_0zhzcd> 2) if i buy it, do i have to use the user i payed with to play?
#2663 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#2664 [19:01] <DrDash> yup
#2665 [19:01] <mib_0zhzcd> okie dokie
#2666 [19:01] <mib_0zhzcd> thats covered it
#2667 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: they're just being obsequious, which honestly isn't a Bad Thing (:
#2668 [19:01] <mib_0zhzcd> :D
#2669 [19:02] <mib_0zhzcd> thank you
#2670 [19:02] <GV> With a purchase of "premium" status, you get all bug fixes, updates, and the full release. You do not get free expansion packs down the line, if there will be any
#2671 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> glad to help; that'll be $8 please.
#2672 [19:02] <retro> @Xales my computer has 2.00 GB
#2673 [19:02] <mib_0zhzcd> ahh
#2674 [19:02] <mib_0zhzcd> D:
#2675 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> (I kid)
#2676 [19:02] <Kaya> ok
#2677 [19:02] <mib_0zhzcd> :)
#2678 [19:02] <mib_0zhzcd> thank you guys
#2679 [19:02] <Kaya> so i just paste the link here?
#2680 [19:02] <Kaya> http://pastebin.com/Zf5FawT6
#2681 [19:02] <xales> retro: Do you have any other programs running, including a firewall or antivirus?
#2682 [19:02] <retro> I do but they're off
#2683 [19:02] <retro> Honestly, I can't enjoy my game...
#2684 [19:02] <Kaya> 0,0
#2685 [19:02] <Kaya> what?
#2686 [19:02] <Kaya> theres a premium status?
#2687 [19:03] <mib_0zhzcd> oh yes and also
#2688 [19:03] <xales> Kaya: premium = have bought the game
#2689 [19:03] <Kaya> okay...
#2690 [19:03] <mib_0zhzcd> how come it lags on my pc which is like top of the market?
#2691 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> Kaya: there's Premium aka "I bought it", and Nonpremium aka "Is still planning to buy it".
#2692 [19:03] <SkiingPenguins> mib_0zhzcd what computer do you have?
#2693 [19:03] <Kaya> hahaha
#2694 [19:03] <Kaya> lol btw ghoti
#2695 [19:03] <retro> @xales ?
#2696 [19:03] <mib_0zhzcd> umm sec
#2697 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> (:
#2698 [19:03] <Kaya> why are you always here 0,0
#2699 [19:04] <Kaya> you were here last week when i was non premium
#2700 [19:04] <mib_0zhzcd> ok
#2701 [19:04] <mib_0zhzcd> i gots me a
#2702 [19:04] <Kaya> and youre here this week when im premium
#2703 [19:04] <mib_0zhzcd> dell xps stupid XPS L701X
#2704 [19:04] <mib_0zhzcd> studio*
#2705 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> I came with a question, and it was answered. I thought I'd stick around and return the favor, as I like helping peoplefolk.
#2706 [19:04] <mib_0zhzcd> not stupid
#2707 [19:04] <mib_0zhzcd> :\
#2708 [19:04] <Kaya> =O
#2709 [19:04] <mib_0zhzcd> 4 gigs ram i7
#2710 [19:04] <Kaya> okok
#2711 [19:04] <Kaya> back to my problem
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#2713 [19:04] <mib_0zhzcd> 3gb gpu
#2714 [19:04] <Kaya> so what do i do guys?
#2715 [19:04] <Kaya> http://pastebin.com/Zf5FawT6
#2716 [19:04] <GV> Give us a second to look up the driver you need to download
#2717 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> 3GB of RAM for the *GPU*? Wow.
#2718 [19:05] <xales> Kaya: I've seen other people not be able to get it to run with that GPU
#2719 [19:05] <mib_0zhzcd> yes
#2720 [19:05] <xales> I don't think it will work with that, but go ahead and try
#2721 [19:05] <mib_0zhzcd> oh
#2722 [19:05] <Kaya> oh really?
#2723 [19:05] <Kaya> lollolol
#2724 [19:05] <mib_0zhzcd> well with my other pc
#2725 [19:05] <mib_0zhzcd> 512 mb
#2726 [19:05] <mib_0zhzcd> lags
#2727 [19:05] <mib_0zhzcd> 4 gb ram
#2728 [19:05] <Kaya> why is minecraft so intense -,-
#2729 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> It's the Creepers. Or maybe the Zombies.
#2730 [19:05] <xales> Kaya: It isn't - the card in that computer is dated and not designed for any sort of gaming
#2731 [19:05] <mib_0zhzcd> LOL
#2732 [19:05] <retro> @Xales umm...
#2733 [19:05] <xales> it just needs a somewhat modern card
#2734 [19:05] <GV> Hmm
#2735 [19:05] <Kaya> blocky game yet requires so much -,-
#2736 [19:05] <xales> retro: ?
#2737 [19:05] <Kaya> in mine?
#2738 [19:05] <GV> Kaya... try
#2739 [19:05] <GV> http://www.notebook-driver.com/lg/lg-xnote-e500eb500ed500-notebook-drivers-for-windows-xp/
#2740 [19:05] <xales> Kaya: yes
#2741 [19:05] <Kaya> but mine is capable of playing warcraft
#2742 [19:05] <Kaya> why not minecraft?
#2743 [19:05] <retro> @Xales I said that I had no other programs running
#2744 [19:05] <xales> Warcraft is a quite old game
#2745 [19:06] <GV> [Video] LG Notebook intel GMA Driver Ver 6.14.10.4820
#2746 [19:06] <SkiingPenguins> Kaya it's because of all the verticies. the blocks are very..well.. verticies-ish
#2747 [19:06] <xales> retro: Are you totally sure?
#2748 [19:06] <GV> You're running 6.14.0010.4516
#2749 [19:06] <Kaya> whats a
#2750 [19:06] <retro> I have moxila running
#2751 [19:06] <Kaya> verticies ><
#2752 [19:06] <retro> That's
#2753 [19:06] <xales> retro: Close that too, and see if it works any better
#2754 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> vertices (n, pl): plural form of vertex
#2755 [19:06] * GV points to link above for Kaya
#2755 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> vertex (n): The intersection of two line segments.
#2756 [19:07] <xales> anyway, I have to go, but the rest of the people here can help
#2757 [19:07] <xales> sorry guys =/ :P
#2758 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> xales you slacker :)
#2759 [19:07] * GV stabs xales with a spork
#2759 [19:07] <retro> Okay... :/
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#2761 [19:07] <Stool> How do I buy this game with a Visa Gift Card?
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#2763 [19:07] <GV> Can't...
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#2766 [19:08] <Kaya> zzzz -,-
#2767 [19:08] <Kaya> i cant download it
#2768 [19:08] <Kaya> hotfile tells me im currently downloading something
#2769 [19:08] <Kaya> when im obviously not.
#2770 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> Stool: Take the Visa card to an ATM, cash it out, take the cash to a bank. At the bank, use the cash to open an account. Link the account to PayPal, and use PayPal to purchase the game.
#2771 [19:09] <GV> Did you wait the 15 seconds before getting it?
#2772 [19:09] * DopeGhoti adds the Gift Card Samba to the FAQ list.
#2772 [19:09] <Kaya> yes -,-
#2773 [19:11] <Stool> Ghoti, I am looking to purchase minecraft; I don't go outside
#2774 [19:11] <Kaya> LOL.
#2775 [19:11] <Kaya> thats insulting bro
#2776 [19:11] <Kaya> i got freaking laughed at by my friends for buying minecraft
#2777 [19:11] <Kaya> *haha you paid 26 bucks for that game&
#2778 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> Kaya: some friends they are.
#2779 [19:11] <Kaya> oh god -,-
#2780 [19:12] <GV> Stool, then try calling the card's customer support
#2781 [19:12] <Kaya> well
#2782 [19:12] <Kaya> they helped me
#2783 [19:12] <Kaya> lent me their credit card
#2784 [19:12] <Kaya> but they tease
#2785 [19:12] <Stool> noty
#2786 [19:12] <GV> Explain to them the situation, see if they're willing to unlock the card for you to make international purchases
#2787 [19:12] <Stool> I will just send the money in the card
#2788 [19:12] <Stool> to a friend
#2789 [19:12] <GV> Alright then
#2790 [19:12] <Stool> and he will send it back, but I will need to eat the fees
#2791 [19:12] <Kaya> *nom nom nom fees*
#2792 [19:13] <Kaya> i can actually play minecraft fine on the webbie
#2793 [19:13] <Kaya> but
#2794 [19:14] <Kaya> i have problems
#2795 [19:14] <Kaya> with the downloadable
#2796 [19:14] <Kaya> -,-
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#2798 [19:16] <GV> Could you be more specific?
#2799 [19:17] <GV> Kaya?
#2800 [19:17] * mr_evil [mr_evil@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2801 [19:17] <mr_evil> HEY GUYS I CANT CONNECT TO ANY SERVERS
#2802 [19:17] <mr_evil> HELP PLS
#2803 [19:17] <elmo> mr_evil: any errors?
#2804 [19:17] <GV> Easy on the caps buddy.
#2805 [19:18] <mr_evil> timed out to connect
#2806 [19:18] <GV> Then those servers are likely down
#2807 [19:18] <mr_evil> i tried like 50 servers
#2808 [19:18] <mr_evil> they have packet exceptions
#2809 [19:18] <mr_evil> time out
#2810 [19:18] <mr_evil> or some other error
#2811 [19:18] <mr_evil> some even crash
#2812 [19:18] <mr_evil> does anyone have a working server?
#2813 [19:18] <GV> Hmm
#2814 [19:18] <mr_evil> ??? PLS help
#2815 [19:19] * GV pokes xales
#2815 [19:19] <Kaya> ?
#2816 [19:19] <Kaya> oh sorry
#2817 [19:19] <Kaya> specific?
#2818 [19:19] <Kaya> the video card thing
#2819 [19:19] <Kaya> thats all -,-
#2820 [19:20] <mr_evil> PLEASE HELP ME GAIZ
#2821 [19:20] <elmo> for frikin' sake
#2822 [19:20] <mr_evil> does anyone have a working server?does anyone have a working server??
#2823 [19:20] <elmo> take a chill pill
#2824 [19:20] <mr_evil> does anyone have a working server?does anyone have a working server?does anyone have a working server?does anyone have a working server?does anyone have a working server?does anyone have a working server?does anyone have a working server?does anyone have a working server?does anyone have a working server?does anyone have a working server?does anyone have a wo
#2825 [19:20] <mr_evil> sorry for spam
#2826 [19:20] <GV> mr_evil - try smp.shadow-craft.net
#2827 [19:20] <mr_evil> idk if you can see text
#2828 [19:20] <mr_evil> ok
#2829 [19:20] <GV> We can
#2830 [19:20] <mr_evil> :?
#2831 [19:20] <GV> Please don't spam like that again
#2832 [19:20] <mr_evil> smp.shadow-craft.net:?
#2833 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> mr_evil: don't be sorry, be not-doing-that-ever-again.
#2834 [19:20] <GV> Just that: smp.shadow-craft.net
#2835 [19:20] <mr_evil> ok, i am not-doing-that-ever-again
#2836 [19:21] <mr_evil> YAYA
#2837 [19:21] <mr_evil> THANK YOUUUU
#2838 [19:21] <mr_evil> but..
#2839 [19:21] <mr_evil> random person will troll my house
#2840 [19:21] <mr_evil> what do i do?
#2841 [19:21] * GV shrugs
#2841 [19:21] <elmo> mr_evil: use the grenade launcher
#2842 [19:21] <aetherian> back
#2843 [19:21] <GV> I've never been on public servers.
#2844 [19:21] <mr_evil> HOW DO I BECOME NOT VISITOR
#2845 [19:22] <elmo> mr_evil: you do the rm -rf /
#2846 [19:22] <aetherian> mr_evil: lul
#2847 [19:22] <mr_evil> WHAT?
#2848 [19:22] <mr_evil> WHERE DO I TYPE IT?
#2849 [19:22] <elmo> mr_evil: Command Prompt -> write shutdown -s -t 1
#2850 [19:22] <GV> mr_evil - Easy on the caps
#2851 [19:22] <GV> http://shadow-craft.net/?page_id=8
#2852 [19:22] <aetherian> *giggle*
#2853 [19:22] * GV baps elmo
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#2854 [19:22] <aetherian> lul
#2855 [19:22] <elmo> :(
#2856 [19:22] <GV> We don't do that here.
#2857 [19:23] <elmo> sawrri
#2858 [19:23] <aetherian> type /part for channel commands on how to not be a visitor
#2859 [19:23] <aetherian> in mc
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#2861 [19:23] <aetherian> like, type it here
#2862 [19:23] <GV> No. Not here
#2863 [19:23] <GV> And I will seriously kick you
#2864 [19:23] <aetherian> heh
#2865 [19:23] <Itty> Thanks GV! I stuck a Linksys USB NIC for now and it works great !
#2866 [19:24] <aetherian> it'll be worth it
#2867 [19:24] <GV> Great!
#2868 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> Itty: Glad to hear it!
#2869 [19:24] <GV> Also
#2870 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> !kbb aetherian
#2871 [19:24] <aetherian> kbb?
#2872 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#2873 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#2874 [19:25] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.37 Seconds.
#2875 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> !grey on
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#2877 [19:25] <aetherian> stupid bot
#2878 [19:25] * GreyBot bonks aetherian, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#2878 [19:25] <aetherian> lol
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#2880 [19:25] <linux2> anyone know anything about this error on linux? I've been trying to read up about it but haven't found anything with a relevant fix: ########## GL ERROR ##########
#2881 [19:25] <linux2> @ Pre startup
#2882 [19:25] <linux2> 1281: Invalid value
#2883 [19:25] <Benwin> Wouldn't it be faster to just type //ban aetherian 3 | /kick #MineCraftHelp aetherian
#2884 [19:25] <aetherian> lol
#2885 [19:25] <Benwin> ??
#2886 [19:26] * GreyVulpine baps aetherian
#2886 [19:26] <aetherian> vulpine, I have no remorse
#2887 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> !kbb aetherian
#2888 [19:26] * GreyBot kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: <Kicks:629>)
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#2890 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> famous last words?
#2891 [19:27] <aetherian> no
#2892 [19:27] <aetherian> famous last words I'm saving for later
#2893 [19:27] <aetherian> !ping
#2894 [19:27] <linux2> any ideas? or is no one else using linux here?
#2895 [19:27] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 1.983 Seconds.
#2896 [19:27] <GV> linux2 - Please use pastebin.com
#2897 [19:27] <aetherian> o.o
#2898 [19:27] * aetherian fixes
#2898 [19:27] <GV> We only saw 3 lines before you were muted for flooding
#2899 [19:27] <linux2> http://pastebin.com/7cg49MFc
#2900 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> linux2: most of your delicious flood of error message was suppressed, but it sounds like you need new vedeo drivers.
#2901 [19:27] <linux2> it was only 3 lines
#2902 [19:28] <aetherian> yeah, gv
#2903 [19:28] <aetherian> if we copypaste we can past as many lines as we like
#2904 [19:28] <linux2> I didn't figure that would be considered a "flood", but I've been wrong before ;)
#2905 [19:28] <aetherian> I've stated this repeatedly
#2906 [19:29] <GV> linux2 - Sorry, it's automatic after 3 lines in a short amount of time
#2907 [19:29] <GV> How and when are you getting this error?
#2908 [19:29] <linux2> ahh, we'll I'll keep this in mind
#2909 [19:29] <linux2> I get it right after logging into the game and it loads up
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#2911 [19:29] <GV> Via what client, how are you logging in?
#2912 [19:30] <linux2> it shows up right after this other error: Linux plugin claims to have found 0 controllers
#2913 [19:30] <linux2> I'm logging in using the minecraft,jar file downloaded earlier today from the minecraft site
#2914 [19:30] <GV> Ahh... I think I know that error, could you give me any more information?
#2915 [19:30] <GV> Maybe a more verbose error message when you launch it via the command line?
#2916 [19:31] <linux2> well I'm running on debian testing with kernel 2.6.32-5-686 using an Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset
#2917 [19:31] * GV nods
#2917 [19:31] <linux2> I can provide you with the full command line output
#2918 [19:32] <GV> Please, that'd help
#2919 [19:32] <linux2> although the top part didn't seem to be related to the error, but perhaps it may give you a little insight
#2920 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> (via pastebin please (: )
#2921 [19:32] <GV> ^
#2922 [19:32] <aetherian> heh
#2923 [19:32] <aetherian> it'd all show here technically
#2924 [19:33] <linux2> http://pastebin.com/qeAZ4Tr3
#2925 [19:33] <elmo> linux2: is Minecraft keeps crashing on your linuxbox?
#2926 [19:33] <linux2> well, more like it doesn't run at all
#2927 [19:33] <elmo> Might be the "famous" ATI-card failure
#2928 [19:33] <linux2> well it is an Intel card
#2929 [19:33] <elmo> if you have an ATI-cars
#2930 [19:34] <elmo> aha, okey
#2931 [19:34] <GV> Nope
#2932 [19:34] <GV> sudo chmod go=u /dev/input/event*
#2933 [19:34] <GV> Try that
#2934 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> linux2: what version of Java are you running?
#2935 [19:35] <linux2> GV, ok, that fixed the input problem completely, but still the GL error
#2936 [19:36] <linux2> DopeGhoti, java version "1.5.0"
#2937 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> ah
#2938 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> you have a _very_ out of date java
#2939 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> what version of Linux are you running?
#2940 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> you want:
#2941 [19:37] <Wahrheit> AHHHH I JUST FOUND THE REDEEMCODES HMOD VERSION
#2942 [19:37] <Wahrheit> SO HAPPY
#2943 [19:37] * GV twitches at caps
#2943 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> java version "1.6.0_22"
#2944 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)
#2945 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode, sharing)
#2946 [19:37] <aetherian> lol
#2947 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> hey, exec, I said | head -n1, dammit
#2948 [19:37] <Wahrheit> GV: necessary
#2949 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> (apologies)
#2950 [19:38] <Wahrheit> GV: This plugin makes me able to do giveaways via the radio
#2951 [19:38] <linux2> DopeGhoti, I'm running debian testing. just updated too
#2952 [19:38] <Wahrheit> GV: Which means I can FORCE MY USERS TO BE ACTIVE! WOO!
#2953 [19:38] <GV> O.o
#2954 [19:38] <aetherian> o.o.o
#2955 [19:38] <Wahrheit> GV: http://summaxr.com/radio
#2956 [19:38] <linux2> let me see if I can get a later version of the JVM. I though that I was using a more recent version to be honest
#2957 [19:38] <GV> Gimme the jest of it
#2958 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> linux2: `sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre`
#2959 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> (even though it should be s/sun/oracle/
#2960 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> )
#2961 [19:39] * GV stabs sunoracle
#2961 [19:39] <linux2> DopeGhoti, weird. It says it is installed
#2962 [19:39] <GV> uninstall previous versions then?
#2963 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> sudo update-alternatives --config java
#2964 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> (that may be an Ubuntism, if so I apologize)
#2965 [19:40] <xENO_> That works on anything with alternatives installe.d
#2966 [19:41] * xENO_ doesn't remember which systems that consists of.
#2966 [19:41] <linux2> DopeGhoti, haha, that's ok. I can manage. Now that I have it using the correct version of java. to figure all this time I was using the wrong thing... figures. I just don't use java all too much
#2967 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> xENO_: The RedHat descended version of that is different syntactically though
#2968 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> linux2: no problem; hope it works now!
#2969 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> !grey off
#2970 [19:43] <linux2> yay! it works
#2971 [19:43] <linux2> thanks
#2972 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> cheers!
#2973 [19:44] <linux2> time to get addicted to this....
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#2976 [19:45] <Clapper> hi
#2977 [19:45] <Radiant> Hey there.
#2978 [19:46] <Radiant> Don't mind me, I was just checking something.
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#2980 [19:46] * GV blinks
#2980 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> "yep. /part still works."
#2981 [19:46] <Clapper> I came here a while ago asking for help with modding. I won't disturb you again, but if there happens to be any good modders here please query me :)
#2982 [19:47] <GV> Try #risucraft
#2983 [19:47] <Clapper> I did
#2984 [19:47] <Clapper> they couldn't/wouldn't help
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#2986 [19:47] <GV> Hmm, okay.
#2987 [19:47] <ambivalent> Hey, is there any way to change the biome of an area with a command or anything?
#2988 [19:47] <GV> No ambivalent.
#2989 [19:48] <ambivalent> Alas, thank you
#2990 [19:48] <Clapper> not without hax.
#2991 [19:48] <Clapper> but
#2992 [19:48] <ambivalent> What manner of hax?
#2993 [19:48] <Clapper> you could mine a bunch of grass or w/e and replace sand with it
#2994 [19:48] <Clapper> Idk really but i read that on MC wiki
#2995 [19:48] <GV> Won't change the "biome" setting of the chunks though
#2996 [19:48] <aetherian> I think I broke my minecraft
#2997 [19:49] <ambivalent> Well, I'd want to change this one to Rainforest, yeah, and sand isn't really gonna do it, hah
#2998 [19:49] <ambivalent> Thanks though
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#3000 [19:49] <oxE1> The terrain generetion is weird sometimes, sand and grass blocks like in a chess board -_-
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#3003 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> oxE1: that happens IRL, if not quite so orthoninally-alligned
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#3005 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> orthoginally, rather
#3006 [19:53] <Wahrheit> xales: DopeGhoti: GV: Kealper: GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/1FUhQ0WK
#3007 [19:53] <Wahrheit> you're welcome
#3008 [19:53] <Wahrheit> just laugh
#3009 [19:54] <GV> Bwah?
#3010 [19:54] <Kealper> i dun get it
#3011 [19:55] * aetherian looks
#3011 [19:55] <Wahrheit> Worst
#3012 [19:55] <Wahrheit> Groups.txt
#3013 [19:55] <Wahrheit> EVER
#3014 [19:55] <aetherian> bwah
#3015 [19:55] <Wahrheit> First of all why so comment lines
#3016 [19:55] <Wahrheit> second of all why so many groups
#3017 [19:55] <Wahrheit> third of all why so multicolored prefixes no wonder your game is fucked
#3018 [19:56] <GV> elitest server, most likely
#3019 [19:56] <Wahrheit> third of all "/money give" is not proper syntax
#3020 [19:56] * GV shrugs
#3020 [19:56] <Wahrheit> GV: obviously a better taste server than we will ever be able to comprehend
#3021 [19:56] <GV> I dunno, don't really care about crappy pub servers
#3022 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> "oh hey look a complex config file hawhawhawhawhaw". *sigh*
#3023 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> some people really do have too much free time
#3024 [19:57] * GV goes back to SEIII
#3024 [19:57] <Wahrheit> No, DopeGhoti you dun get it
#3025 [19:57] <xales> GV, waaait
#3026 [19:57] <Wahrheit> Spot all the errors if you can
#3027 [19:57] <aetherian> hey kealper, ever finsih that program?
#3028 [19:57] <GV> ?
#3029 [19:57] <Kealper> aetherian: no
#3030 [19:58] <aetherian> it's just hello world
#3031 [19:58] <Wahrheit> I'm talking to the Multiplay Support guy who is taking care of this guy (the guy ahead of me)
#3032 [19:58] <xales> GV: I don't suppose you would mind "backing up" that game into an inadvertantly-public Dropbox folder, and then accidentally querying me to link? :D
#3033 [19:58] <Wahrheit> The poor guy talking to support is just a moderator who's trying to get rid of the cpu overuse his admin created
#3034 [19:58] <Kealper> i went to bed, i didn't even start on anything, i was just reading stuff on it
#3035 [19:58] <Wahrheit> And the support guy is showing me all the files
#3036 [19:58] <aetherian> lol
#3037 [19:58] <GV> O.O
#3038 [19:58] <aetherian> "bed"
#3039 [19:58] <Wahrheit> And I'm just like
#3040 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> Wahrheit: wait, a support guy is sharing out one client's config files with another client?
#3041 [19:58] <xales> GV: /me is bored
#3042 [19:58] <GV> You can get SEIII or IV from any public torrent site
#3043 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> What company is this so that I can never ever give them anything.
#3044 [19:58] <Wahrheit> DopeGhoti: The user gave permission
#3045 [19:58] <GV> Really not hard to find
#3046 [19:58] <xales> GV: ._. fine, my lazyness loses again
#3047 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> that the company asked permussion is problem enough.
#3048 [19:59] * GV stabs xales
#3048 [19:59] <Wahrheit> DopeGhoti: No, I asked
#3049 [19:59] <Wahrheit> They have their channel muted
#3050 [19:59] <aetherian> xales: get a job
#3051 [19:59] <Wahrheit> I queried and the guy asked the support guy to give them to me
#3052 [19:59] <xales> aetherian: you.
#3053 [19:59] <aetherian> xales: not old enough
#3054 [19:59] <xales> GV: is III better than IV?
#3055 [19:59] <aetherian> where I live
#3056 [19:59] <Wahrheit> I was just trying to help speed up the process so I could go next and LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
#3057 [20:00] <GV> I personally like III better, but there's a following for IV
#3058 [20:00] <aetherian> what's the default max usage of RAM by vanilla beta server?
#3059 [20:00] <xales> is the game quite different between III and IV?
#3060 [20:00] <GV> There's even a HUGE GiTP thread for IV
#3061 [20:00] <GV> Pretty different, yeah
#3062 [20:00] <GV> More ship types and weapons and crap for IV
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#3064 [20:01] <GV> This is a grid-based space combat 4x game, from back in the mid 90s
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#3066 [20:01] <xales> Yeah, I've played some of the newer ones and they weren't that great. I haven't played any of the older ones though
#3067 [20:02] <GV> I played III for years on end, but IV's only recently started to grow on me.
#3068 [20:02] <Wahrheit> <Wahrheit> Your groups.txt makes me sad for humanity
#3069 [20:02] <Wahrheit> <Wahrheit> how old is the owner?
#3070 [20:02] <Wahrheit> <_Legacy> 22
#3071 [20:02] <Wahrheit> <Wahrheit> wat
#3072 [20:02] * GV stabs Wahrheit
#3072 [20:02] <Wahrheit> four lines is not that much
#3073 [20:02] <Elvang> Its 3 lines in 1.5 seconds for the new script
#3074 [20:03] <Wahrheit> I understand
#3075 [20:03] <Wahrheit> And I waited for my mute to finish like a good little user
#3076 [20:03] * GV goes back to SEIII
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#3078 [20:05] <Clapper> wow
#3079 [20:09] <aetherian> wha
#3080 [20:09] <aetherian> I thought it was 3 lines in 2 seconds
#3081 [20:10] <aetherian> and why doesn't it kick anymore
#3082 [20:19] <Kealper> because banning without kicking will mute them
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#3084 [20:20] <aetherian> so?
#3085 [20:20] <aetherian> kick 'em
#3086 [20:21] <aetherian> that way I can do my
#3087 [20:21] <aetherian> good [enter] bye [enter] now
#3088 [20:21] <aetherian> and be kicked
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#3091 [20:22] <Kealper> you probably can't tigger it with that now unless you copied/pasted it
#3092 [20:22] <xales> Kealper, game to play? Not Minecraft
#3093 [20:23] <xales> preferably free or available in a 'free' manner
#3094 [20:23] <iTechman> How do u connect to the chatrooms on the mine craft games
#3095 [20:23] <xales> iTechman: Do you mean link IRC to Minecraft?
#3096 [20:23] <iTechman> Yes
#3097 [20:23] <Kealper> xales: what game types?
#3098 [20:23] <iTechman> Mostly
#3099 [20:23] <xales> Kealper, non-FPS really
#3100 [20:24] <iTechman> Is that possible
#3101 [20:24] <xales> iTechman: You'd need to use a mod, look on the Minecraft forum. I don't know of any off the top of my head
#3102 [20:24] <Kealper> yes iTechman
#3103 [20:24] <Kealper> what xales said
#3104 [20:24] <iTechman> Ok
#3105 [20:24] <iTechman> What do u mean mod
#3106 [20:24] <Kealper> xales: Audiosurf, but i'm not sure you would like that :/
#3107 [20:24] <iTechman> Like moderator
#3108 [20:25] <xales> Mod = modification
#3109 [20:25] <Kealper> iTechman: modification
#3110 [20:25] <Kealper> dangit
#3111 [20:25] <iTechman> Ok
#3112 [20:25] <xales> I assume you are running a server?
#3113 [20:25] <iTechman> Brb
#3114 [20:25] <ionoff> theres an bukkit plugin for irc and mc
#3115 [20:25] <ionoff> one sec
#3116 [20:26] <ionoff> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admn-chat-craftirc-v1-70b-beta-minecraft-irc-harmony.253/
#3117 [20:26] <ionoff> there
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#3120 [20:29] <xales> iTechman: http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admn-chat-craftirc-v1-70b-beta-minecraft-irc-harmony.253/
#3121 [20:29] <iTechman> What is that for
#3122 [20:29] <iTechman> Lol
#3123 [20:30] <iTechman> That is the irc client for it right
#3124 [20:30] <xales> that's what you wanted
#3125 [20:30] <iTechman> Yeah
#3126 [20:30] <iTechman> I guess lol
#3127 [20:31] <xales> a mod for Minecraft that links it to IRC
#3128 [20:31] <xales> Kealper, any other suggestions? :o
#3129 [20:31] <iTechman> Is there a way I can connect to the minecraft games irc that people talk in during the games
#3130 [20:32] <ionoff> that plugin does it
#3131 [20:32] <xales> iTechman: Yes, if that is installed on the server
#3132 [20:32] <ionoff> can be configured to relay all
#3133 [20:32] <iTechman> Ok
#3134 [20:32] <iTechman> Cool
#3135 [20:32] <ionoff> or only if people use a trigger
#3136 [20:32] <iTechman> Yeah
#3137 [20:32] <iTechman> Ok
#3138 [20:32] <ionoff> I don't think it uses /msg cmd though
#3139 [20:32] <iTechman> Yeah
#3140 [20:32] <ionoff> to private messages are off limits
#3141 [20:32] <iTechman> Yeah
#3142 [20:32] <iTechman> Ok
#3143 [20:32] <iTechman> Hold on
#3144 [20:33] <ionoff> also dynmap, now has chat bubbles that can show up on your realtime google map
#3145 [20:33] <iTechman> I'll brb
#3146 [20:33] <xales> why does he keep doing that :o
#3147 [20:33] <ionoff> idk
#3148 [20:33] <xales> and why did I just randomly hear a ping...oh, whatever =/
#3149 [20:35] <xales> oh, thats why. :P
#3150 [20:35] <xales> no wait, nm
#3151 [20:35] <xales> ._.
#3152 [20:35] <ionoff> i did mine after you mentioned it
#3153 [20:35] <aetherian> salt
#3154 [20:35] <ionoff> brine
#3155 [20:35] <xales> irssi is set to beep whenever there is a public NOTICE, a HILIGHT-level message, or anything is said to be in query, as well as some other obscure things =/
#3156 [20:36] <xales> s/be/me
#3157 [20:37] <ionoff> :)
#3158 [20:37] <xales> what is a CTCP NOTICE? :P
#3159 [20:37] <ionoff> an obsecure query type
#3160 [20:37] <xales> CTCP NOTICE = doesn't exist
#3161 [20:38] <oxE1> notice is a /notice
#3162 [20:39] <ionoff> the rfc says you can define N ctcp commands
#3163 [20:39] <xales> NOTICE is not a CTCP command defined by any client
#3164 [20:39] <xales> that i've ever seen, and I've seen quite a few
#3165 [20:42] <xales> ionoff: I am winrar. 20:42:31 Ignoring CTCPS from ionoff
#3166 [20:43] <ambivalent> Is it possible to delete chunks from a server?
#3167 [20:43] <ambivalent> Like if someone ran off in one direction really really really far and spawned a billion chunks
#3168 [20:43] <ambivalent> *cough*
#3169 [20:43] <xales> ambivalent: Yes, you can delete them
#3170 [20:43] <ambivalent> what would be needed to do that?
#3171 [20:43] <xales> the only thing they hurt is disk space, so they shouldn't be a problem
#3172 [20:44] <ionoff> rm -rf world
#3173 [20:44] <xales> but if you really want to
#3174 [20:44] <ionoff> replace world with chunks
#3175 [20:44] <xales> just do some math to find what directories to delete, or use a world editor like mcedit
#3176 [20:44] <ambivalent> it isn't my server but a friend's, and another friend of ours decided to travel in one direction as far as he could haha
#3177 [20:45] <xales> ok
#3178 [20:45] <ambivalent> Thanks, I'll mention it, but I'll also mention the disk space thing.
#3179 [20:45] <ambivalent> Also, do you know if forest fires would adversely effect server performance?
#3180 [20:45] <xales> yes, they would
#3181 [20:45] <xales> possibly significantly
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#3183 [20:46] <ambivalent> We had a three cases of a surface lava pool being generated in a chunk next to a forest
#3184 [20:47] <ambivalent> and setting huge forest fires, big irritant
#3185 [20:47] <ionoff> worldguard / disable lava fire
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#3187 [20:47] <ambivalent> What is worldguard?
#3188 [20:47] <xales> Bukkit plugin AFAIK
#3189 [20:47] <ionoff> /\
#3190 [20:48] <ionoff> i take it we are not supposed to talk about bukkit here
#3191 [20:48] <ionoff> since it says core-game
#3192 [20:48] <Elvang> #bukkit for bukkit :)
#3193 [20:49] <ionoff> i know
#3194 [20:49] <ionoff> but when people mention something that isn't covered by core
#3195 [20:49] <ionoff> are we allowed to mention it
#3196 [20:49] <ionoff> or should I pm about it
#3197 [20:49] <Elvang> From what I've seen, they are immediately redirected to #bukkit or #risucraft
#3198 [20:50] <xales> ionoff: Officially, the channel doesn't support it. People are welcome to talk about it, but we aren't going to sit here figuring out problems with software we haven't used ourselves
#3199 [20:50] <xales> Anyone is welcome to do that, however.
#3200 [20:50] <ionoff> ah ok
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#3202 [20:50] <ionoff> I just want to make sure I am not violating any channel isolations
#3203 [20:51] <feenyx> absolutely not
#3204 [20:52] <feenyx> it's just that supporting alpha/beta addons for an in beta game can get quirky real fast. If the game itself isn't working without mods, we're more than happy to help.
#3205 [20:53] <ionoff> ah
#3206 [20:53] <ionoff> NSFW : http://i.imgur.com/gKDWC.png
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#3208 [20:53] <feenyx> hahaha'
#3209 [20:53] <iTechman> Ok
#3210 [20:54] <iTechman> What was the link again l
#3211 [20:54] <iTechman> Ol
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#3213 [20:54] <xales> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admn-chat-craftirc-v1-70b-beta-minecraft-irc-harmony.253/
#3214 [20:54] <iTechman> Ok
#3215 [20:54] <ionoff> but note: to use it
#3216 [20:54] <xales> write it down; I'm not going to give it to you a 4th time
#3217 [20:54] <ionoff> you have to use an 3rd party server api wrapper
#3218 [20:54] <ionoff> called bukkit
#3219 [20:55] <iTechman> Ok
#3220 [20:55] <ionoff> or more specifically craftbukkit
#3221 [20:55] <feenyx> http://bukkit.org/
#3222 [20:55] <feenyx> also, the #bukkit irc channel
#3223 [20:55] <iTechman> Yeah what is on that channel
#3224 [20:56] <ionoff> people talking about and supporting bukkit and its issues
#3225 [20:56] <iTechman> Ok
#3226 [20:56] <ionoff> lots of active dev chat also
#3227 [20:56] <ionoff> during times
#3228 [20:56] <iTechman> Im going to install it then thanks
#3229 [20:56] <iTechman> Brb later
#3230 [20:56] <Elvang> Portal locations in the nether correspond with their locations in the world right?
#3231 [20:57] <ionoff> 1:8 ration I belive
#3232 [20:57] <ionoff> but yeah
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#3234 [20:57] <Elvang> So what happens if I open a portal at bedrock, and then a second at the highest point I can get?
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#3236 [20:58] <Elvang> Does the nether just stick both of them where ever there is ground at the general x,y?
#3237 [20:58] <ionoff> I don't believe elevation is in the equation
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#3240 [20:58] <ionoff> and if there is not a respectable position it finds a nearby
#3241 [20:58] <Daedelous> anyone in the channel know who can change account emails right now?
#3242 [20:58] <Elvang> Ok
#3243 [20:59] <ionoff> I don't believe you can
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#3245 [20:59] <xales> Daedelous: Nope, sorry. send an email to daniel@mojang.com - this is strictly community-powered support
#3246 [20:59] <Elvang> Supposedly emailing somebody about it will get it changed in 3-4 weeks.
#3247 [20:59] <Daedelous> ah, thanks
#3248 [20:59] <Wahrheit> RedeemCodes is an awesome frakkin plugin
#3249 [20:59] <TBird713> I got a question about how the game loads maps/blocks
#3250 [21:00] <xales> TBird713: Go ahead and ask, you don't need to state that you have a question =/
#3251 [21:00] <Wahrheit> xales: add that to motd plox
#3252 [21:00] <Wahrheit> *topic
#3253 [21:00] <xales> it is, and it's NOTICEd to you when you join
#3254 [21:00] <xales> people don't read either =/
#3255 [21:00] <Wahrheit> >what the hell, man
#3256 [21:01] <TBird713> k. I have some problems with my beta server. i made a brand new server which has one layer of bedrock an one layer of dirt....but yet its the laggiest map ive ever seen
#3257 [21:01] <Wahrheit> Tbird: too close to bedrock etc
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#3259 [21:01] <xales> TBird713: Generally lag is caused by the computer you are running it on not being capable of running a server
#3260 [21:01] <Wahrheit> that too
#3261 [21:02] <xales> you can't fix that by making a smaller map
#3262 [21:02] <TBird713> but its only in area where its down low. i have another hue server which runs great
#3263 [21:02] <xales> are you running any mods on the server?
#3264 [21:02] <TBird713> except for the part i dug out down to the second layer so i can build big. but its lags harder than ever. to the point i have to reset my characters position just to log in
#3265 [21:03] <TBird713> none at all
#3266 [21:03] <xales> Is it client lag, or server lag?
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#3269 [21:04] <Mahony> Hello
#3270 [21:04] <TBird713> server
#3271 [21:04] <TBird713> it says the usual warning about time change or overload
#3272 [21:04] <TBird713> but everyone else lags
#3273 [21:04] <xales> Hello Mahony
#3274 [21:05] <ionoff> does it lag on server generated worlds?
#3275 [21:05] <Wahrheit> TBird: Do you have a host, or is this run locally?
#3276 [21:05] <TBird713> on wha?
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#3278 [21:05] <TBird713> its running off my pc
#3279 [21:05] <Wahrheit> I would suggest getting an actual host
#3280 [21:05] <Wahrheit> It could be your internet, it could be your computer
#3281 [21:05] <TBird713> and i even have the server running off of different core than my game client
#3282 [21:06] <Wahrheit> It could be a plethora of things, but having an actual host makes life easier especially if they're set up for minecraft
#3283 [21:06] <Mahony> I got some problems setting up a MC Server on a Debian 5 machine... as i start the minecraft_server jar the server starts... and then just stops without any errors. does anyone have an idea ?
#3284 [21:06] <TBird713> but i want to be able to edit my map in mcedit when needed
#3285 [21:06] <Wahrheit> So download it and reupload it
#3286 [21:06] <Wahrheit> It's essentially the same thing
#3287 [21:06] <Wahrheit> OR
#3288 [21:06] <Wahrheit> Save your mcedit .schematic and then upload it with worldedit
#3289 [21:06] <Wahrheit> easy peasy
#3290 [21:07] <xales> Mahony: Are you using the plain .jar from Minecraft.net, no mods?
#3291 [21:07] <Mahony> yes... just the plain jar from minecraft.net
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#3293 [21:08] <TBird713> you think running mc off a seperate pc with nothing else would help?
#3294 [21:08] <TBird713> cuz i may use my old pc as a server
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#3296 [21:09] <TBird713> :O thnx for help though gotta run
#3297 [21:09] <xales> TBird713: "old PC"'s don't usually make good servers for game servers
#3298 [21:09] <TBird713> well by old i mean most recent
#3299 [21:09] <TBird713> its barely a year old
#3300 [21:09] <TBird713> but thnx all
#3301 [21:09] <ionoff> especially for mc which disk io, cpu, and mem are hogged
#3302 [21:09] <xales> lol
#3303 [21:09] <ionoff> but if you have a beast of a machine installing XCP
#3304 [21:09] <ionoff> and partitioning it
#3305 [21:09] <ionoff> will give good results
#3306 [21:09] <ionoff> for having multiple servers
#3307 [21:10] <ionoff> kinda contains each rogue mc server
#3308 [21:10] <arensirb> I have a question concerining MC server.
#3309 [21:10] <ionoff> XCP is an community Xen Hypervisor, btw
#3310 [21:10] <arensirb> Is it correct that the chunks will only be loaded when needed?
#3311 [21:10] <Mahony> 2011-02-12 02:55:17 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.2_01
#3312 [21:10] <Mahony> 2011-02-12 02:55:17 [INFO] Loading properties
#3313 [21:10] <Mahony> 2011-02-12 02:55:22 [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on 62.75.147.34:25565
#3314 [21:10] <Mahony> 2011-02-12 02:55:22 [INFO] Stopping server
#3315 [21:10] <ionoff> arensirb, yes
#3316 [21:10] <Mahony> oops sorry
#3317 [21:10] <xales> Mahony: Don't paste stuff in here ._.
#3318 [21:10] <Kealper> yachzee
#3319 [21:10] <arensirb> So a not that powerfull server can have a REALLY big world, but still do allright?
#3320 [21:10] <ionoff> wh
#3321 [21:11] <ionoff> eh
#3322 [21:11] <arensirb> Is that correct?
#3323 [21:11] <ionoff> people could go anywhere
#3324 [21:11] <xales> arensirb: World size doesn't matter as long as all players stick close to each other
#3325 [21:11] <ionoff> and your really big world can become problemsome on slower servers
#3326 [21:11] <xales> very close
#3327 [21:11] <arensirb> xales: But If one player is at one end at the map
#3328 [21:11] <arensirb> say 1000,1000,1000
#3329 [21:11] <arensirb> 1000,1000,50*
#3330 [21:12] <arensirb> and the other at -1000,-1000,50
#3331 [21:12] <xales> that's not how it works - only chunks near players are loaded. if they are near any player, they will be loaded.
#3332 [21:12] <arensirb> Yeah
#3333 [21:12] <xales> if players are in the same spot, a minimal number of chunks will be loaded
#3334 [21:12] <arensirb> But all the chunks between the players
#3335 [21:12] <arensirb> are not loaded
#3336 [21:12] <xales> if they are spread out, more chunks must be loaded
#3337 [21:12] <arensirb> hmm
#3338 [21:13] <arensirb> So basicly bigger world = stronger server?
#3339 [21:13] <ionoff> he is asking about the chunks between players
#3340 [21:13] <arensirb> unless all players stay together
#3341 [21:13] <ionoff> and the answer if they are further from threshold
#3342 [21:13] <ionoff> the area between is not loaded
#3343 [21:13] <arensirb> Ok.
#3344 [21:13] <ionoff> but note, having lots of people in different areas
#3345 [21:14] <ionoff> and if they are walking betwen chunks
#3346 [21:14] <ionoff> can very easily lag a server
#3347 [21:14] <arensirb> oh
#3348 [21:14] <xales> if you are worried about resource utilization to that degree, you might want to reconsider hosting a server
#3349 [21:14] <arensirb> What do you define as "lots" ?
#3350 [21:14] <xales> you should have at least 1.5GB for a larger MC server
#3351 [21:14] <ionoff> even 3 at same time
#3352 [21:14] <xales> just for the server
#3353 [21:14] <arensirb> xales: you mean GB of RAM
#3354 [21:14] <xales> yes
#3355 [21:15] <arensirb> I think the server in question has 6 GB
#3356 [21:15] <xales> that number does not make sense as any other value, as far as system specs
#3357 [21:15] <arensirb> and its a dual core xeon I believe
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#3359 [21:15] <xales> if it has 6GB, and you aren't running other stuff on it
#3360 [21:15] <xales> you don't need to be that concerned about resource use
#3361 [21:15] <ionoff> other than disk io
#3362 [21:15] <xales> ugh
#3363 [21:15] <xales> speaking of servers
#3364 [21:15] <xales> I still need to upgrade to Squeeze =/
#3365 [21:16] <aetherian> back
#3366 [21:16] <arensirb> Ok, I kinda know the admin, they set limit to 1000 blocks each direction... I said thats TOO little
#3367 [21:16] <arensirb> but they are afraid that server will lag
#3368 [21:16] <aetherian> lol
#3369 [21:16] <xales> if they are concerned about that...they aren't doing it right
#3370 [21:16] <arensirb> 1 chunk is 16x16?
#3371 [21:16] <xales> yes
#3372 [21:17] <Mahony> could someone check my server.properties... because after loading the properties the mc stops ?
#3373 [21:17] <arensirb> Whats the biggest worldfile you heard of? (in MB)
#3374 [21:17] <xales> Mahony: copy it to http://pastebin.com/
#3375 [21:17] <xales> arensirb: It would be unrealistic for it to ever be greater than 1GB
#3376 [21:17] <xales> I've never had a (singleplayer) world go over 15MB
#3377 [21:17] <aetherian> never?
#3378 [21:17] <aetherian> o.o
#3379 [21:17] <arensirb> Ive seen a worldfile over 15 :P
#3380 [21:18] <Elvang> Mines at 9 just from 30 minutes of walking around :\
#3381 [21:18] <ionoff> my servers have not gotten bigger than 430mb
#3382 [21:18] <ionoff> current is 257mb and 130mb
#3383 [21:18] <arensirb> I think its currently at about 60
#3384 [21:18] <aetherian> probably some server out there at many gigs
#3385 [21:18] <arensirb> Last time I heard with the admin
#3386 [21:18] <Kealper> my smp one is about 60, too
#3387 [21:18] <Kealper> aetherian: quite a few
#3388 [21:18] <ionoff> but if you don't have any mods
#3389 [21:18] <arensirb> Kealper: Do you have any restrictions on how far one can walk?
#3390 [21:19] <Mahony> here it is http://pastebin.com/tjdVCa6v :)
#3391 [21:19] <aetherian> 60 gig o.o
#3392 [21:19] <ionoff> like warp or compass
#3393 [21:19] <ionoff> you will probably not expand much
#3394 [21:19] <Kealper> arensirb: not really
#3395 [21:19] <arensirb> aetherian: MB
#3396 [21:19] <aetherian> kealper: yes you do
#3397 [21:19] <aetherian> :O
#3398 [21:19] <aetherian> like, a few thousand terrabytes is the max, right?
#3399 [21:19] <ionoff> eh
#3400 [21:19] <Kealper> there is a limit, but you are probably going to run out of disk space before the server starts to make rounding errors on the map
#3401 [21:19] <ionoff> depends on filesystem
#3402 [21:20] <arensirb> Kealper: hehe
#3403 [21:20] <arensirb> Do MC perform alot of IO operations?
#3404 [21:20] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#3405 [21:20] <DopeGhoti> Each chunk has its own file on the hard drive
#3406 [21:20] <ionoff> yeah
#3407 [21:21] <xales> Mahony: I found part of the problem...
#3408 [21:21] <Mahony> what is it ?
#3409 [21:21] <ionoff> as far as the limit of size a world can potentially grow is really based off of number of free inodes allocated
#3410 [21:21] <ionoff> if on win
#3411 [21:21] <arensirb> so a good HD setup is crucial
#3412 [21:21] <xales> first of all, why is online-mode=false?
#3413 [21:21] <Mahony> i copied that from a guide
#3414 [21:21] <xales> uh, what guide?
#3415 [21:21] <ionoff> probably to prevent issues with people while auth is down
#3416 [21:21] <ionoff> or a pirate guide
#3417 [21:22] <ionoff> or serverport guide
#3418 [21:22] <arensirb> he
#3419 [21:22] <Kealper> latter?
#3420 [21:22] <arensirb> h
#3421 [21:22] <ionoff> using a proxy server
#3422 [21:22] <Mahony> i just googled for some guides
#3423 [21:22] <xales> can you link the guide to us?
#3424 [21:22] <Mahony> let me take a look at my history
#3425 [21:22] <DopeGhoti> arensirb: my current world is 56944 files, for example.
#3426 [21:23] <arensirb> DopeGhoti: Alot of users?
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#3428 [21:23] <DopeGhoti> irrelevant; it's based on map size
#3429 [21:23] <arensirb> Ah
#3430 [21:23] <arensirb> hmm
#3431 [21:23] <DopeGhoti> my map: http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/map/
#3432 [21:23] <DopeGhoti> (so you can get a sense of scale)
#3433 [21:23] <arensirb> Thats alot of chunks
#3434 [21:23] <arensirb> :P
#3435 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> Yes. Yes it is.
#3436 [21:24] <arensirb> what is max/min y?
#3437 [21:24] <arensirb> how would a 1000 to -1000 server look in comparison to yours
#3438 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> I think it's roughly +/- 1500 in both directions
#3439 [21:24] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: what mapper did that?
#3440 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> both axes, I should say.
#3441 [21:24] <arensirb> oh, not more
#3442 [21:24] <ionoff> 62134 for one of my bigger worlds
#3443 [21:25] <arensirb> DopeGhoti: What program made that map?
#3444 [21:25] <DopeGhoti> arensirb: minecraft-overviewer
#3445 [21:25] <arensirb> o.O no install docu
#3446 [21:27] <ionoff> brb as my other player name
#3447 [21:27] <Mahony> i cant find the link to the guide anymore...
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#3449 [21:28] <braincreation> ah back
#3450 [21:29] <Mahony> but the server also stopps if i set onlinemode to true
#3451 [21:29] <Kealper> Mahony: what error are you getting? i might be able to help you out
#3452 [21:30] <Mahony> the server stopps after loading the parameters without any error message
#3453 [21:30] <Kealper> so it just....opens, then closes before even loading the map?
#3454 [21:31] <braincreation> are you running latest java?
#3455 [21:31] <Mahony> i just installed java6 to my debian machine
#3456 [21:31] <braincreation> oh first what os, and are you doing nogui
#3457 [21:31] <Kealper> debian, i'd assume lol
#3458 [21:32] <braincreation> update-alternatives --config java
#3459 [21:32] <braincreation> make sure you have right java setup
#3460 [21:32] <braincreation> and by no-gui I mean are you putting that in your cmd line
#3461 [21:32] <Kealper> Mahony: ok, first thing actually, where did you download your minecraft server file?
#3462 [21:33] <Mahony> from minecraft.net
#3463 [21:33] <Mahony> the java package i used was sun-java6-jre
#3464 [21:33] <Kealper> Mahony: does the machine have a desktop enviroment installed or is it just command line?
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#3466 [21:34] <Mahony> command line only -_-
#3467 [21:34] <Kealper> ok, type java -version and say what version it says, it should be 1.6.0_23
#3468 [21:34] <DopeGhoti> Mahony: that's be the right package.
#3469 [21:35] <braincreation> yeah, it may be correct package, but does not mean that is the default java vm that runs
#3470 [21:35] <DopeGhoti> braincreation: this I know. I walked someone through update-alternatives earlier.
#3471 [21:35] <Mahony> oh... java -version says 1.5.0
#3472 [21:35] <DopeGhoti> I was just confirming that that was in fact the correct package.
#3473 [21:35] <Kealper> oh my
#3474 [21:35] <DopeGhoti> Mahony: `sudo update-alternatives --config java`
#3475 [21:35] <Kealper> that's really old :/
#3476 [21:35] <braincreation> ahhhhh
#3477 [21:35] <Mahony> but i just installed sun-java6-jre
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#3479 [21:36] <DopeGhoti> Mahony: look up
#3480 [21:36] <Mahony> ok
#3481 [21:36] <DopeGhoti> Mahony: `sudo update-alternatives --config java` <-- do this.
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#3483 [21:37] <Mahony> its getting even worse... "Error occurred during initialization of VM - Could not reserve enough space for object heap" :(
#3484 [21:37] <braincreation> woah
#3485 [21:37] <DopeGhoti> Mahony: how are you invoking the minecraft jar?
#3486 [21:37] <braincreation> is this a VPS
#3487 [21:38] <Mahony> yes its running on virtuozzo
#3488 [21:38] <Mahony> i did java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3489 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> Mahony: your command like should resemble `java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui`
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#3491 [21:38] <braincreation> their probably overselling ur resources, lower ur mem
#3492 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft needs 1GiB.
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#3495 [21:40] <SniperVolcom> Excuse me fellow chatters, I need help
#3496 [21:40] <Mahony> i think i need to ask google about that ;)
#3497 [21:41] <SniperVolcom> XD
#3498 [21:42] <DopeGhoti> SniperVolcom: could you be more specific?
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#3500 [21:42] <SniperVolcom> Alright, when I log it to Minecraft, it gets to 'Done Loading', then the screen blacks and stay that way
#3501 [21:43] <iTechman> I tried to download it
#3502 [21:43] <braincreation> what os and what device
#3503 [21:43] <iTechman> But I'm not messing with it tonight
#3504 [21:43] <iTechman> I'll mess with ittommrow
#3505 [21:43] <SniperVolcom> And after I X out of Minecraft, a notepad pad pops up with a thread error
#3506 [21:43] <braincreation> do you have opengl installed
#3507 [21:44] <iTechman> But there is no server to connect to the irc on the games
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#3509 [21:44] <SniperVolcom> I have window xp and its a laptop
#3510 [21:45] <iTechman> Is there a server the games irc channels are on
#3511 [21:46] <SniperVolcom> Any one know a fix for the "black screen of death"?
#3512 [21:46] <iTechman> Does anyone know what the server is for the irc in the games
#3513 [21:47] <iTechman> Anyone plz
#3514 [21:47] <iTechman> I need to know
#3515 [21:47] <Kealper> what?
#3516 [21:47] <Kealper> minecraft ingame chat does not use irc for it's chat
#3517 [21:47] <iTechman> Like in the minecraft games u can chat
#3518 [21:47] <iTechman> What it should
#3519 [21:48] <Kealper> you need to get a server mod that makes a "bridge" to an irc server
#3520 [21:48] <iTechman> Ok
#3521 [21:48] <iTechman> Brb
#3522 [21:48] <SniperVolcom> Kealper
#3523 [21:48] <Kealper> just google "craftirc minecraft"
#3524 [21:48] <Kealper> damnit
#3525 [21:48] <Kealper> yes SniperVolcom?
#3526 [21:49] <braincreation> server is whatever irc you want it to be with that plugin
#3527 [21:49] <braincreation> u could use espernet or linknet
#3528 [21:49] <braincreation> or whatnot
#3529 [21:49] <Kealper> he's not in this irc anymore
#3530 [21:49] <braincreation> i know
#3531 [21:49] <SniperVolcom> Ok, when i log into minecraft, it loads then after "Done Loading", it black screens -.-
#3532 [21:49] <Kealper> he left randomly....again :/
#3533 [21:49] <braincreation> but I do things in burst
#3534 [21:49] <SniperVolcom> know any fixes?
#3535 [21:50] <braincreation> and don't read quit msgs
#3536 [21:50] <Kealper> SniperVolcom: computer specs?
#3537 [21:50] * braincreation showing stubbornness
#3537 [21:50] <braincreation> he has a laptop running xp
#3538 [21:50] <braincreation> do you have video drivers for your laptop installed
#3539 [21:50] <braincreation> and are they higher than intel i700
#3540 [21:51] <braincreation> it sounds like opengl is not fully supported by current driver
#3541 [21:51] <braincreation> your running
#3542 [21:51] <SniperVolcom> I'm not any good with computers.... How do I find my specs?
#3543 [21:52] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I built such a wrapper. (not a mod because the server is not changed in any way (: )
#3544 [21:52] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: yeah, my server runs an STDIO wrapper with a bridge to my chat program, but it could easily work for irc, too
#3545 [21:53] <Kealper> nice thing about an stdio wrapper is that it won't stop working on an update :/
#3546 [21:53] <Kealper> bad thing about my specific wrapper....i made it in autoit so it's windows-only lol
#3547 [21:53] <SniperVolcom> anyone? :o
#3548 [21:53] <Kealper> SniperVolcom: what is your computer's model number?
#3549 [21:53] <aetherian> heh
#3550 [21:53] <aetherian> autoit
#3551 [21:53] <aetherian> I'm back
#3552 [21:54] <Kealper> aetherian: when you learn a language more complex than HTML, i'll start actually looking at your insults to AutoIt -.-
#3553 [21:54] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: mine's python (:
#3554 [21:54] <braincreation> i do my stdio wrappers in python
#3555 [21:54] * aetherian doesn't actually consider HTML a language...
#3555 [21:54] <braincreation> and cross compatiable
#3556 [21:54] <Kealper> that was my point aetherian
#3557 [21:54] <braincreation> although on windows curses support sucks
#3558 [21:54] <DopeGhoti> mine's not stdio; it uses sockets, for MC and IRC
#3559 [21:54] <Kealper> i don't either
#3560 [21:54] <aetherian> nor do I know much a'tall
#3561 [21:55] <aetherian> since when did I know html =\
#3562 [21:55] <DopeGhoti> HTML is a language.
#3563 [21:55] * DopeGhoti points at the L.
#3563 [21:55] <aetherian> lol
#3564 [21:55] <Kealper> that L lies
#3565 [21:55] <aetherian> different kind
#3566 [21:55] <DopeGhoti> it's just not a _programming_ language
#3567 [21:55] <braincreation> the L is a courtesy
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#3569 [21:55] <braincreation> its a Markup Language
#3570 [21:55] <DopeGhoti> It's exactly what it says on the tin: a ma.. that.
#3571 [21:55] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: yours wraps all the tcp connections of the players?
#3572 [21:55] <braincreation> really its a weak xml
#3573 [21:55] <Kealper> xml is actually newer than html and is based off html :/
#3574 [21:55] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: no, it has one socket to the server-wrapper, and another to IRC
#3575 [21:55] <braincreation> Kaervan_, he wraps the mc server console
#3576 [21:56] <braincreation> I know
#3577 [21:56] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: oh....i could say the same for mine then -.-
#3578 [21:56] <Kealper> my actual wrapper does not do much, but it allows "modules" to be connected to it via tcp to add functionality, and it just sends a copy of the server's stdout to each loaded module
#3579 [21:57] <Kealper> likewise, sends data that modules send back into the server's stdin
#3580 [21:57] <Kealper> and due to the way that i made my chat, i can have the chat bridge link to my chat server as a server to server connection, so it has full integration into my chat
#3581 [21:58] <SniperVolcom> Well... you guys are no help
#3582 [21:58] <Kealper> SniperVolcom: what is your computer's model number?
#3583 [21:58] <Kealper> motherfuckit
#3584 [21:58] <aetherian> o.o
#3585 [21:59] <aetherian> now now
#3586 [21:59] <aetherian> !ping
#3587 [21:59] <aetherian> awww
#3588 [21:59] <Kealper> like seriously....i even asked him that same exact question like 10 min ago and he didn't answer
#3589 [22:00] <Kealper> noobs make me nerdrage
#3590 [22:00] <aetherian> have a cookie.
#3591 [22:00] <aetherian> it helps.
#3592 [22:00] <Kealper> >.>
#3593 [22:00] <aetherian> actually, know what? I want this cookie.
#3594 [22:00] <aetherian> no cookie for you.
#3595 [22:00] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: so's mine, it's jsut the IRC module is the only one I've needed so far
#3596 [22:01] <ambivalent> is there a way to autorun?
#3597 [22:01] <ambivalent> I know I've done it on accident sometimes
#3598 [22:02] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: yeah, mine just has a remote console module that i run on a few computers in my house, a remote console that has extra commands/permission system, and then that chat bridge
#3599 [22:02] <DopeGhoti> ambivalent: use a nickel to wedge down the W key?
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#3601 [22:05] <PeanutCarl> Hi
#3602 [22:05] <DopeGhoti> g'morning!
#3603 [22:05] <PeanutCarl> I have a problem in my system in launching minecraft beta
#3604 [22:06] <PeanutCarl> can you help me?
#3605 [22:06] <DopeGhoti> PeanutCarl: could you describe the problem more closely?
#3606 [22:06] <PeanutCarl> sure
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#3608 [22:07] <PeanutCarl> When I start MineCraft Beta in browser or in downloadable version it just makes a black screen and a crash error about Java
#3609 [22:08] <PeanutCarl> i have Windows 7
#3610 [22:08] <Mahony> i just checked my debian machine... memory is limited to 512MB but it has additional "FlexRam" but i dont know how to get some of it :(... would it be enough to run MC with about 500MB RAM for a maximum of 5 users ?
#3611 [22:08] <iTechman> How do I find someone on the minecraft server
#3612 [22:08] <iTechman> Do I do a Whois
#3613 [22:09] <Kealper> for what? in irc? or in minecraft?
#3614 [22:09] <iTechman> In irf
#3615 [22:09] <iTechman> Irc
#3616 [22:09] <iTechman> For the minecraft
#3617 [22:09] <DopeGhoti> iTechman: IRC and Minecraft are not connected to each other. What exactly are you asking for?
#3618 [22:10] <Kealper> uhm, usually everyone will talk through one bot that is in the channel you specify
#3619 [22:10] <DopeGhoti> PeanutCarl: try the directions in the following message from AuBot :
#3620 [22:10] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#3621 [22:10] <PeanutCarl> kk
#3622 [22:10] <Kealper> so the bot would just be like "RandomUser: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet"
#3623 [22:10] <iTechman> I'm wanting to try to find my bro in a game
#3624 [22:11] <iTechman> On minecraft
#3625 [22:11] <iTechman> Somehow
#3626 [22:11] <Arkose> iTechman: there is no such function, unfortunately. You'll have to manually ask him what server he's on.
#3627 [22:12] <iTechman> Ok
#3628 [22:14] <DopeGhoti> iTechman: There's this amazing thing that some people can do- they push air throgh their neck, and flex some muscles, and flap their jaws, lips, and tongues, and intelligible speech comes out. I hear it's called "talking".
#3629 [22:14] <iTechman> Lol I know
#3630 [22:14] <Kealper> what is this "talking" you speak of?
#3631 [22:15] <Kealper> i know of no such thing
#3632 [22:16] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I'm not entirely sure. It certainly sounds less useful and more error-prone than sending characters through a data stream.
#3633 [22:16] <Kealper> totally
#3634 [22:16] <Arkose> if I can't Ctrl+V it into Twitter for the lulz what good is it?!
#3635 [22:17] <Kealper> !tweet I wish twitter did not change their API, I am too lazy to make OAuth work...
#3636 [22:18] <Kealper> that'd work better if that module was actually loaded
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#3638 [22:18] <Kealper> but it'd still fail....stupid twitter
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#3641 [22:20] <Wahrheit> Anyone know of an hmod door locking plugin?
#3642 [22:22] * Kealper dropped hMod like a bad habbit right after Christmas
#3642 [22:22] <DopeGhoti> Wahrheit: Not here. This is not a place for mod support, as has been repeatedly explained to you.
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#3645 [22:24] <Mahony> do you guys have an idea what the maximum number of players is if i run minecraft with 400MB RAM ?
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#3647 [22:24] <aetherian> kealper: you mean slowly?
#3648 [22:24] <Kealper> Mahony: not many....i'd say 5 people would be pushing it
#3649 [22:25] <Wahrheit> DopeGhoti: I understand that. I'm asking for an identification, not support.
#3650 [22:25] <Kealper> aetherian: no, i literally uninstalled it and ran with my own wrapper right after the 20th
#3651 [22:25] <Wahrheit> DopeGhoti: You can simply say "no".
#3652 [22:25] <aetherian> then that wasn't like a bad habit
#3653 [22:25] <aetherian> bad habits take time to get rid of
#3654 [22:25] <aetherian> and mahony? lay off the tnt if ya do that.
#3655 [22:25] <Kealper> i never said it was an addictive habbit >.>
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#3658 [22:26] <mib_uz4lo7> looking for a good registerable server
#3659 [22:26] <aetherian> #smp
#3660 [22:26] <Mahony> why... would tnt blow up the server ? :)
#3661 [22:26] <Wahrheit> mib_uz4lo7: minecraft.summaxr.com:27265
#3662 [22:26] <aetherian> yes mahony
#3663 [22:26] <Kealper> http://mcserverlist.net
#3664 [22:26] <mib_uz4lo7> no
#3665 [22:26] <aetherian> hey, how do you run minecraft_server.jar on windows with higher ram?
#3666 [22:26] <mib_uz4lo7> half of them doesnt work
#3667 [22:26] <mib_uz4lo7> ill try the summaxr tho
#3668 [22:27] <Wahrheit> :)
#3669 [22:27] <aetherian> D:
#3670 [22:27] <Wahrheit> don't forget the port mib_uz4lo7
#3671 [22:27] <aetherian> and next time, change yer name...
#3672 [22:27] <Mahony> i think i should upgrade to a bigger machine soon :/
#3673 [22:27] <aetherian> yes, mahony
#3674 [22:27] <aetherian> upgrade
#3675 [22:27] <aetherian> now
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#3677 [22:27] <aetherian> you can get a nice laptop for around a thousand dollars, what more do you need
#3678 [22:28] <Mahony> my home pc is fine for playing minecraft :D... i was talking about my debian host
#3679 [22:28] <aetherian> ohhh
#3680 [22:28] <iTechman> Ok
#3681 [22:28] <aetherian> just buy your own server :D
#3682 [22:29] <Wahrheit> I suggest Multiplay!
#3683 [22:29] <aetherian> only cost but a trifling sum
#3684 [22:29] <Mahony> that stupid virtual host has 512MB guaranteed RAM and up to 1GB FlexRam... but i bet thats just a marketing bubble
#3685 [22:30] <Mahony> i dont know how to get some of the FlexRAM
#3686 [22:30] <Kealper> uhm
#3687 [22:30] <DopeGhoti> FlexRAM is also known as "swap space", or "memory that will slow everything down to a crawl, so don't use it".
#3688 [22:30] <Arkose> they name it that way so you think "wow, flex == flexible!"
#3689 [22:31] <Kealper> 512 total ram is not enough to run an mc server on, the operating system will need some of that 512mb too
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#3691 [22:31] <Kealper> and minecraft servers require a ton of ram
#3692 [22:31] <aetherian> pfft
#3693 [22:31] <aetherian> kealper: just run a really small OS
#3694 [22:31] <Arkose> although with the fancier RAM allocation in 2008 R2 SP1 I wonder how soon some hosts will start offering genuinely dynamic RAM allocation...
#3695 [22:31] <aetherian> like tinycore or summat
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#3697 [22:32] <Kealper> aetherian: that still doesn't help the fact that a minecraft server is garbage when it's got less than like a gig allocated
#3698 [22:32] <DopeGhoti> Arkose: you talking about HyperV?
#3699 [22:32] <aetherian> Kealper: ssshhhhh
#3700 [22:32] <aetherian> Kealper: that's a secret
#3701 [22:32] <DopeGhoti> that was interesting until I found that _it still uses a GUI for the interface_ which is f[bleep]king ridiculous
#3702 [22:32] <Mahony> hm... i think i gonna play MC with hamachi then
#3703 [22:32] <Arkose> well, there's always a downside
#3704 [22:32] <Arkose> maybe SP2 eh? ;)
#3705 [22:33] <DopeGhoti> Mahony: oh god no, never use hamaciu
#3706 [22:33] <aetherian> lol
#3707 [22:33] <Arkose> although at this rate they'll save that sort of innovation for Windows 8's server edition
#3708 [22:33] <DopeGhoti> at least until they stop using IPs that have been allocated
#3709 [22:33] <aetherian> well brb guys, gotta get my history done
#3710 [22:33] <Mahony> dyndns would also be an alternative
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#3712 [22:35] <starwiz> Minecraft.net isn't down.
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#3714 [22:35] <DopeGhoti> thanks for letting us know, starwiz
#3715 [22:36] <starwiz> Lol, also, I'm having a problem =P I'll elaborate in a sec.
#3716 [22:36] <aetherian> back, that was too easy
#3717 [22:37] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: it's almost like history writes itself.
#3718 [22:38] <aetherian> .
#3719 [22:38] <aetherian> .
#3720 [22:38] <aetherian> .
#3721 [22:39] <starwiz> So I'm on linux (ubuntu), and have Java Sun installed and being used, but I also have OpenJDK, neither work. When I run it I can load the game, but when I try and generate a map my game just crashes. Normally it gives no error and just crashes, except for when I run in via command line. When I do that; http://pastebin.com/rrPXttPn
#3722 [22:39] <aetherian> !check
#3723 [22:39] <DopeGhoti> starwiz: `sudo update-alternatives --config java`, and set up Sun's java as your preferred java
#3724 [22:41] <starwiz> 2 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java 63 manual mode
#3725 [22:41] <starwiz> That would be the one, correct?
#3726 [22:41] <DopeGhoti> yes
#3727 [22:42] <starwiz> It doesn't work, one sec pastebining the error
#3728 [22:42] <Mahony> thanks for ur help and patience... i am off to bed now :)
#3729 [22:42] <DopeGhoti> starwiz: while you're at it, install pastebinit; you can pipe output to it (:
#3730 [22:43] <starwiz> Alright, I'll do that.
#3731 [22:43] <DopeGhoti> starwiz: once it's installed, "command | pastebinit" will give you a URL for a pastebin containing the output of `command` (:
#3732 [22:44] <starwiz> http://pastebin.com/c4651PpK
#3733 [22:44] <starwiz> That's from the hs_err file
#3734 [22:46] <DopeGhoti> Wow, that's a pretty low-level crash
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#3736 [22:47] <DopeGhoti> starwiz: and you're running `java -jar /path/to/Minecraft.jar`, yes?
#3737 [22:48] <starwiz> yeah
#3738 [22:48] <DopeGhoti> what video drivers are you using?
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#3740 [22:49] <starwiz> ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
#3741 [22:49] <DopeGhoti> ah. Anyone versed with Linux ATI drivers awake at the moment?
#3742 [22:50] <Kealper> i've tried fglrx, but without exciting results :/
#3743 [22:51] <starwiz> I had it working before though. Then I had to reinstall due to another issue, and I don't remember what I did to fix it.
#3744 [22:51] <Kealper> ati and linux goes together about as well as a mouse and a snake
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#3746 [22:54] <starwiz> Hm, so any ideas or do I just have to reboot into windows to play minecraft. (Don't like this option)
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#3748 [22:55] <aetherian> kealper: so pretty good, huh?
#3749 [22:55] <Kealper> eh?
#3750 [22:55] <starwiz> Lol.
#3751 [22:56] <iTechman> So could I make my own channel on this server
#3752 [22:56] <DopeGhoti> iTechman: sure. /join #yourswankychannel.
#3753 [22:56] <iTechman> Ok
#3754 [22:56] <iTechman> Lol
#3755 [22:57] <aetherian> oh snap
#3756 [22:57] <aetherian> that place is awesome
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#3758 [22:57] <aetherian> it has the coolest guy for a mod
#3759 [22:58] <aetherian> but he left
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#3761 [23:00] <aetherian> so... anyone wanna play minecraft?
#3762 [23:01] <Kealper> i was going to go to bed
#3763 [23:01] <Kealper> i has a headache :<
#3764 [23:02] <aetherian> lolwas
#3765 [23:02] <aetherian> wait
#3766 [23:02] <aetherian> today's friday
#3767 [23:02] <iTechman> Are there any bots on the botserv
#3768 [23:02] <aetherian> one doesn't simply sleep on saturday
#3769 [23:02] <aetherian> botserv?
#3770 [23:02] <iTechman> Or is that not on this server
#3771 [23:02] <Kealper> fridays are not as good when it feel like a nail is being pounded into your skull
#3772 [23:03] <aetherian> pfft
#3773 [23:03] <Kealper> iTechman: i don't even think this network has BotServ
#3774 [23:03] <iTechman> Ok
#3775 [23:03] <Kealper> it's got really plain-jane services :/
#3776 [23:04] <iTechman> Yeah
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#3778 [23:06] <Mahony> hi again...
#3779 [23:06] <Kealper> ugh.... 720p documentary on a 1024x768 monitor ftl
#3780 [23:06] <Mahony> i got some more questions :)
#3781 [23:06] * Kealper has a headache, and is going away for the night
#3781 [23:06] <aetherian> kealper: why so many documentaries
#3782 [23:07] <aetherian> getting a masters degree in watching docs?
#3783 [23:07] <Mahony> do all players have the same spawn location in MC Multiplayer ?
#3784 [23:07] <aetherian> roughyl
#3785 [23:07] <Kealper> it's hard to explain....so let's just simplify it by saying i like to watch them
#3786 [23:07] <aetherian> I have time
#3787 [23:07] <aetherian> explain.
#3788 [23:07] <aetherian> :D
#3789 [23:07] <aetherian> it'll hurt your head even more :D\
#3790 [23:08] <Kealper> well....if you insist.....i love to learn stuff, it does not matter what it is really, but i am most comfortable when i'm learning
#3791 [23:08] <DopeGhoti> I like documentaries too
#3792 [23:08] <DopeGhoti> I like proper aspect ratios more :)
#3793 [23:08] <aetherian> you like learning. go delve into a textbook then ;)
#3794 [23:08] <Kealper> it's why i got into computers, why i got into programming, why i'm good at mechanical stuff, electrical stuff...etc
#3795 [23:09] <relsqui> Mahony: unless the server is modified yes
#3796 [23:09] <Mahony> thx
#3797 [23:09] <DopeGhoti> The first book I read was 'Flatland'. That pretty much set the tone for me.
#3798 [23:09] <relsqui> :D Flatland
#3799 [23:09] <aetherian> first book evar?
#3800 [23:09] <aetherian> o.o
#3801 [23:09] <iTechman> Hey guys
#3802 [23:09] <Kealper> i actually do that, i've read just about all the history books you'd find in the school distric's history classes
#3803 [23:09] <DopeGhoti> The second book I read was a primer on Applesoft BASIC.
#3804 [23:09] <aetherian> lolhistory
#3805 [23:09] <iTechman> Who here is also on another irc network
#3806 [23:09] * DopeGhoti is.
#3806 [23:09] <relsqui> <--
#3807 [23:09] <aetherian> dopeghoti: I call bs
#3808 [23:09] * Kealper is
#3808 [23:09] <aetherian> and I am
#3809 [23:10] <relsqui> aetherian: maybe he means the first two books he finished ;)
#3810 [23:10] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: what are you calling em?
#3811 [23:10] <aetherian> lies
#3812 [23:10] <DopeGhoti> no, those are literally the first two books I read.
#3813 [23:10] <iTechman> I am on 4
#3814 [23:10] <iTechman> Networks
#3815 [23:10] <Mahony> and what happens to any items that were dropped of the inventory if i restart the server... will they disappear ?
#3816 [23:10] <relsqui> iTechman: what about them?
#3817 [23:10] <Kealper> iTechman: grats?
#3818 [23:10] <aetherian> first book I read was more along the lines of "sam is running"
#3819 [23:10] <aetherian> etc
#3820 [23:10] <iTechman> Just saying
#3821 [23:10] <iTechman> Lol
#3822 [23:10] <relsqui> haha he thinks that makes his epeen longer
#3823 [23:11] * DopeGhoti could /connect to about fifteen networks right now if he wanted to.
#3823 [23:11] * DopeGhoti can't be bothered.
#3823 [23:11] <iTechman> Lol
#3824 [23:11] <Kealper> one time i went to /connect, but i /server'd....that was annoying
#3825 [23:11] * DopeGhoti will now stop referring to himself in the third person, because it's pretentious.
#3825 [23:11] <iTechman> Lol
#3826 [23:11] <Kealper> i just closed irssi and restarted it -.-
#3827 [23:11] <aetherian> why oh why does everything have to be referred in sizes of penises
#3828 [23:11] <aetherian> I mean really
#3829 [23:12] <iTechman> LOL
#3830 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: I blame the Christian church and its quashing of matriarchical societies.
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#3832 [23:12] <aetherian> dopeghoti: O.O
#3833 [23:12] <aetherian> what... wait what
#3834 [23:12] <relsqui> aetherian: because using something so obviously unrelated helps make it sound ridiculous
#3835 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> Hey, you asked.
#3836 [23:12] <relsqui> which is the goal
#3837 [23:12] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i wholeheartedly agree
#3838 [23:13] * aetherian doesn't see basis
#3838 [23:13] <iTechman> Can we talk about other network
#3839 [23:13] <Kealper> but religion is a whole different can of worms
#3840 [23:13] <aetherian> let's not go into it
#3841 [23:13] <iTechman> Networks
#3842 [23:13] <aetherian> I'm just talking about everything is "oh it's because his genitals" "oh he has small genitals"
#3843 [23:13] <Kealper> iTechman: as long as someone does not ask you to stop talking about them
#3844 [23:13] <aetherian> etc
#3845 [23:13] <WoM-Guest> I have been searching for servers to connect to but always come back to the same one. is there a list that someone knows about that i should go to to find a server where i can build
#3846 [23:14] <aetherian> it's ridiculous
#3847 [23:14] <DopeGhoti> One of the things the Christian church has been doing since around 300 CE was coopting other sects and faiths, by usurping their festivals and holy days. They also wanted to consolidate power away from women, with whom it had historically lay, into the hands of men, who were power-hungry.
#3848 [23:14] <iTechman> Ok
#3849 [23:14] <DopeGhoti> (things I did not expect to be discussing in #MineCraftHelp, partial list..)
#3850 [23:14] <aetherian> heh
#3851 [23:15] <aetherian> well, everyone has their views. just like how I have a view that if I keep deleting files on an old hard drive eventually somehow it will clear up enough space
#3852 [23:15] <iTechman> Brb later
#3853 [23:15] <aetherian> IT WILL DAMMIT
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#3855 [23:16] <aetherian> so... anyone wanna play minecraft smp?
#3856 [23:16] <relsqui> yes, but my server is down >_>
#3857 [23:17] <aetherian> I think I was implying that people can join mine
#3858 [23:17] <aetherian> dotdotdot
#3859 [23:17] <aetherian> care to?
#3860 [23:18] <relsqui> maybe :) I might take advantage of the lull to get some homework done
#3861 [23:18] <relsqui> I'm also very reluctant to dip my toes into several places
#3862 [23:18] <relsqui> I get attached easily
#3863 [23:18] <aetherian> heh
#3864 [23:18] <aetherian> drop by man
#3865 [23:18] <aetherian> 75.30.114.218
#3866 [23:19] <Kealper> i'm 60% sure relsqui is not a man
#3867 [23:19] <Kealper> but only 60%
#3868 [23:19] <aetherian> relsqui: are you?
#3869 [23:19] <relsqui> haha. kealper has been paying attention
#3870 [23:19] <Kealper> :P
#3871 [23:19] <relsqui> (I think I've only used pronouns in here once or twice)
#3872 [23:19] <aetherian> I haven't...
#3873 [23:19] <aetherian> been paying attention...
#3874 [23:20] <relsqui> aetherian: can I invite my bored servermates along?
#3875 [23:20] <aetherian> well drop by (wo)man
#3876 [23:20] <aetherian> sure
#3877 [23:20] <Kealper> most of the time i'm just silently watching over the channel lol
#3878 [23:20] * relsqui grins
#3878 [23:20] <aetherian> kealper: you spend too much time on smp
#3879 [23:20] <aetherian> *irc
#3880 [23:20] <aetherian> dammit
#3881 [23:20] <relsqui> hahaah
#3882 [23:20] <aetherian> not that I'm one to judge
#3883 [23:20] <aetherian> as I'm on here a good amount
#3884 [23:20] <Kealper> anyone remember Psyduck?
#3885 [23:21] <Kealper> that's what i look/feel like right now
#3886 [23:21] <relsqui> XD
#3887 [23:21] <aetherian> o
#3888 [23:21] <aetherian> .
#3889 [23:21] <aetherian> ^cyclops
#3890 [23:22] <DopeGhoti> IRC is an interesting form of survival multiplayer (:
#3891 [23:22] <relsqui> survival multiplayer notepad
#3892 [23:23] <DopeGhoti> just so.
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#3894 [23:29] <arensirb> DopeGhoti: Haha
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#3898 [23:31] <retro> Hey guys, how do I log off correctly so that it saves my progress on the game? (browser version)
#3899 [23:32] <Kealper> retro: minecraft beta single player?
#3900 [23:32] <retro> Newest version
#3901 [23:32] <Shadow386> press esc
#3902 [23:32] <Shadow386> :D
#3903 [23:32] <retro> I'm sorry, I'm not really up to speed regarding versions, I'm kinda- no- REALLY new to this
#3904 [23:32] <retro> Oh tysm!
#3905 [23:32] <retro> <3
#3906 [23:32] <Kealper> yeah, when you bring up the game's menu, if you look at the bottom left, it will say saving
#3907 [23:33] <retro> ahhh finally I can get off of the game knowing my shiz won't be deleted
#3908 [23:33] <Kealper> lol
#3909 [23:33] <retro> I was about to give up on minecraft tbh
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#3911 [23:33] <Kealper> :o
#3912 [23:33] <retro> =]
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#3914 [23:33] <Kealper> well anyways.....afk now....headache is not going away so i'll sleep it off
#3915 [23:33] <Strace> Is there anyone here available to troubleshoot payment?
#3916 [23:34] <relsqui> Kealper: feel better
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#3918 [23:34] <Kealper> relsqui: thanks lol, yeah, this sucker hurts :<
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#3921 [23:42] <mib_uz4lo7> Looking for a minecraft server
#3922 [23:46] <exp0> Google
#3923 [23:50] <exp0> Kealper: I just ran MCServer r171 again and I can get into the world.
#3924 [23:50] <exp0> I check ed the top, it says it is an MC Alpha server, but obviously it isn't.
#3925 [23:50] <exp0> So we can rule out my OS install being the trouble
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