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#4 [00:07] <Miniminers512> Hia
#5 [00:07] <exp0> hi
#6 [00:08] <Miniminers512> I'm working on a minecraft nuke town from blackops
#7 [00:08] <exp0> nice
#8 [00:09] <Miniminers512> I have 2 mite houses all the yards and the road left
#9 [00:09] <Miniminers512> Lolz
#10 [00:09] <exp0> lots of work
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#12 [00:10] <Miniminers512> It's hard to make because it took me forevar to get a flat surface
#13 [00:10] <exp0> you can use a program to modify the world. The wiki has a page for map editors.
#14 [00:11] <Miniminers512> Yeah but I found that out after XD
#15 [00:11] <exp0> sucks a little
#16 [00:12] <Miniminers512> Il probaly put it online so I can have matches with people with gun mods and stuff
#17 [00:13] <Miniminers512> Il keep working tommorow I had to get off the computer because it's too late :(
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#21 [00:18] <Ripsaw> I've been having a problem with frequently disconnecting from online servers. I can successfully stay online for about 5-10 minutes max then it freezes and shuts down "unexpectedly". When it reboots 90% of the time it quickly shows an update screen followed by the main login. I then lay for awhile and it does the same thing over and over again. Anything you can help with?
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#23 [00:21] <Ripsaw> Any insight?
#24 [00:21] <Miniminers512> Hmm that is an odd thing
#25 [00:22] <Miniminers512> Dose anything pop up after it freezes
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#27 [00:23] <Ripsaw> no it just freezes and about 2 minutes later I get the error report saying it "quit unexpectedly" and I have to restart the game
#28 [00:24] <Miniminers512> Hmm have you been using mods or trying to instal them?
#29 [00:25] <Ripsaw> Nope nothing like that at all
#30 [00:25] <Ripsaw> the only thing I have is a skin and that wouldn't affect anything
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#33 [00:30] <Miniminers512> Hey I need to find put how i delete an HD texture pack I've releted it form my bin file but whenever I play inbrowser it says I need to update my video drive anyone able to help??
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#35 [00:32] <Miniminers512> Anyone
#36 [00:33] <Miniminers512> Please I'm a co owner of miniminers and I can't make vids
#37 [00:33] <Miniminers512> For my YouTube
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#39 [00:36] <Arkose> Miniminers512: you'd have to be a bit more specific. Are you having difficulty recording from Minecraft, or what?
#40 [00:38] <Miniminers512> No i'm trying to play minecraft but it says I need to update my videodrive GV told me how to do the rest but all I need to do Is find out how ti find my videodrve
#41 [00:40] <Miniminers512> Arkose can you help me?
#42 [00:41] <Arkose> do you know where you saved the video to?
#43 [00:41] <Miniminers512> You mead my video drive no. Don't know
#44 [00:42] <Miniminers512> Mean*
#45 [00:42] <Arkose> what did you make the video with?
#46 [00:42] <Miniminers512> It's not aboute uplaoding videos
#47 [00:43] <Arkose> oh, drivers. Sorry. I see now.
#48 [00:43] <Miniminers512> The help I need is to get on minecraft because an error pops up
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#50 [00:43] <Arkose> do you know what video card you have?
#51 [00:43] <Miniminers512> No that's why I'm here to find out
#52 [00:44] <Arkose> what's your OS?
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#54 [00:44] <Miniminers512> Os as in operating system if yes windows XP
#55 [00:45] <Arkose> OK. Open the start menu and click on Run (should be bottom right).
#56 [00:45] <Arkose> then type dxdiag and hit enter.
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#58 [00:46] <relsqui> >_< fell into a two-deep hole made of bedrock
#59 [00:46] <relsqui> smart me
#60 [00:46] <Arkose> on the window that appears, click the Display tab at the top and it will tell you waht video card you have.
#61 [00:46] <Miniminers512> Arkose ok and then what
#62 [00:47] <Miniminers512> How will I update it?
#63 [00:47] <relsqui> it drives me a little bit bonkers that I can't level out bedrock :P
#64 [00:47] <Arkose> for ATI: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx
#65 [00:47] <Arkose> for Nvidia: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
#66 [00:47] <Arkose> for Intel: http://www.intel.com/support/detect.htm?iid=dc_iduu
#67 [00:48] <Arkose> if this is a laptop, you should check the manufacturer's site first in case they have a special version for your particular model.
#68 [00:49] <Miniminers512> Ok thank you man now I can work on my giant frog:]
#69 [00:50] <relsqui> XD
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#72 [00:57] <bellows> My minecraft is extremely laggy
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#78 [01:15] <killking72> anybody care to help me build on to my city
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#85 [01:29] <mib_uz4lo7> LOOKING FOR A GOOD MINECRAFT SERVER
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#88 [01:29] <ACF> could someone link me to instructions on how to install the simplecraft texture pack?
#89 [01:30] <ACF> my google-fu is weak
#90 [01:30] <mib_uz4lo7> I NEED GOOD MINE SERVER
#91 [01:30] <Wahrheit> FAIR WARNING: The user obliviron is a GRIEFER and will DESTROY and FILL houses. Even of admins after being warned.
#92 [01:30] <retro> @Killking72 I'd be glad to help
#93 [01:30] <Wahrheit> Hope you have MCBan on your server.
#94 [01:30] <mib_uz4lo7> =\
#95 [01:30] <mib_uz4lo7> Just because you attacked me and i defended myself
#96 [01:31] <mib_uz4lo7> Doesn't make it a grief
#97 [01:31] <mib_uz4lo7> I wasn't a dick to go and report you here, so don't be a dick and lie
#98 [01:31] <mib_uz4lo7> Looking for a minecraft server!
#99 [01:32] <ACF> can anyone me?
#100 [01:32] <ACF> help me* ?
#101 [01:32] <mib_uz4lo7> With what?
#102 [01:32] <ACF> installing the simplecraft texture pack
#103 [01:32] <ACF> i unzipped it to /texturepacks but it won't show up in-game
#104 [01:32] <mib_uz4lo7> Ah, sorry, it should have a read-me though
#105 [01:32] <ACF> yeah, no read-me
#106 [01:32] <ACF> it's weird
#107 [01:32] <mib_uz4lo7> I never installed a texture pack before; sorry
#108 [01:33] <ACF> just a "made by" .txt file
#109 [01:33] <mib_uz4lo7> Looking for a good minecraft server!
#110 [01:33] <ACF> dude.. stop spamming that
#111 [01:33] <ACF> no offense
#112 [01:33] <relsqui> mib_uz4lo7: maybe you should go to a general minecraft channel then
#113 [01:33] <relsqui> and not spam there, either :p
#114 [01:33] <mib_uz4lo7> =(
#115 [01:33] <ACF> relsqui, you have any idea on how to install simplecraft skin mod?
#116 [01:33] <mib_uz4lo7> I see how it is.
#117 [01:33] <mib_uz4lo7> Ok lol
#118 [01:33] <relsqui> no? try the mod's help
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#120 [01:34] <Wahrheit> mib_uz4lo7: What the fuck are you talking about?
#121 [01:35] <Wahrheit> mib_uz4lo7: I was nice to you and gave you a tour of my house, then you went and griefed the shit out of it.
#122 [01:35] <Wahrheit> Don't let that idiot on your servers.
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#125 [01:44] <ACF> figured it out, nevermind
#126 [01:49] <Kaya> what the
#127 [01:49] <Kaya> im having trouble with the minecraft website
#128 [01:49] <Kaya> everytime i click home
#129 [01:49] <Kaya> they transfer me to some account
#130 [01:49] <Kaya> 'that isnt mine.
#131 [01:50] <lemon-rev> kaya did you manage to log in it sounds like it
#132 [01:50] <lemon-rev> ?
#133 [01:50] <Kaya> yes.
#134 [01:51] <Kaya> i went to log in
#135 [01:51] <Kaya> to my paid account
#136 [01:51] <Kaya> but everytime i click on the game
#137 [01:51] <Kaya> in browser
#138 [01:51] <Kaya> open
#139 [01:51] <Kaya> they send me to some account
#140 [01:51] <Kaya> called kagomemeowmeow
#141 [01:51] <lemon-rev> hm
#142 [01:51] <Kaya> i have no idea whose it is
#143 [01:51] <Kaya> but i cant play
#144 [01:52] <Kaya> which is
#145 [01:52] <Kaya> balls.
#146 [01:52] <Kaya> when i navigate the website
#147 [01:52] <Kaya> it says
#148 [01:52] <Kaya> im still in my normal account
#149 [01:52] <Kaya> *which i will not disclose*
#150 [01:52] <lemon-rev> ok so your only trying to play via the website can you try downloading the jar or the exe and like get it to run that way
#151 [01:52] <Kaya> thats the thing
#152 [01:52] <Kaya> last night
#153 [01:52] <Kaya> i came here
#154 [01:52] <Kaya> to get my exe one
#155 [01:52] <Kaya> fixed
#156 [01:52] <lemon-rev> kaya could you try and make your sentances not soo small please
#157 [01:53] <DopeGhoti> !paid kagomemeowmeow
#158 [01:53] <Kaya> okay sure yeah
#159 [01:53] <Kaya> yes i know kago has not
#160 [01:53] <DopeGhoti> Kaya: clear browser cookies perhaps
#161 [01:53] <lemon-rev> kaya whats your username
#162 [01:53] <Kaya> why should i say it 0,0
#163 [01:53] <Kaya> its private isnt it -,-
#164 [01:53] <lemon-rev> cause we can check if its paid
#165 [01:53] <Kaya> it is -,-
#166 [01:53] <lemon-rev> well up to you then
#167 [01:53] <Kaya> !oinkyzzz
#168 [01:53] <DopeGhoti> Kaya: log out, clear browser cookies, log back in
#169 [01:53] <Kaya> go for it.
#170 [01:53] <DopeGhoti> !paid oinkyzzz
#171 [01:54] <lemon-rev> k
#172 [01:54] <lemon-rev> kaya do as dopeghoti said
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#174 [01:55] <Kaya> cool
#175 [01:55] <Kaya> worked
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#177 [01:56] <retro> Omg can't find a good free-build server -,-
#178 [02:02] <Wahrheit> I don't trust mibbit users
#179 [02:03] <Wahrheit> like, at all
#180 [02:03] <Wahrheit> in fact
#181 [02:03] * Wahrheit glines mibbit
#181 [02:03] <DopeGhoti> go for it, guy-without-magic-+
#182 [02:04] <Wahrheit> I have magic on my server. o_O
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#184 [02:18] <nevercast> Hey Kealper, fogWraith, DopeGhoti
#185 [02:20] <aetherian> I feel sorry for my hard drive
#186 [02:20] <aetherian> oh hey nevercast
#187 [02:21] <aetherian> dotdotdot wahrheit?
#188 [02:21] <nevercast> aetherian, Hey :)
#189 [02:21] <aetherian> "I don't trust mibbit users, like, at all" says the guy who set his "real name" to "anonymous"
#190 [02:21] <nevercast> aetherian, Just changed my texture pack.. looks nice.. but it didn't support the new trees so had to patch them in with GIMP lol.
#191 [02:21] <aetherian> haha
#192 [02:21] <aetherian> what pack
#193 [02:21] <nevercast> Herrr...
#194 [02:21] <nevercast> one sec
#195 [02:21] <aetherian> derp
#196 [02:21] <nevercast> Save and Quit...
#197 [02:22] <aetherian> "I installed a pack, but I dunno what it is"
#198 [02:22] <nevercast> browncraft
#199 [02:22] <nevercast> It's not amazing but things look smoother
#200 [02:22] <nevercast> nicer
#201 [02:22] <nevercast> more like sims lol.
#202 [02:23] <aetherian> anyone here use simplecraft?
#203 [02:24] <nevercast> ?
#204 [02:24] <nevercast> texture or mod?
#205 [02:24] <nevercast> crap
#206 [02:24] <nevercast> furnance needs patching lol.
#207 [02:24] <aetherian> texture
#208 [02:24] <nevercast> not used it no
#209 [02:24] <aetherian> it's 8 bit
#210 [02:24] <nevercast> LOL
#211 [02:25] <nevercast> 256 colors ftw
#212 [02:25] <aetherian> uhh
#213 [02:25] <aetherian> I'm looking for the /right/ simplecraft
#214 [02:27] <aetherian> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=104854
#215 [02:27] <aetherian> [/forumspam]
#216 [02:27] <aetherian> so detailed
#217 [02:27] <Wahrheit> aetherian: when you run an IRCnet and get ddosed or phished frequently come talk to me
#218 [02:27] <aetherian> <3
#219 [02:27] <aetherian> o.o
#220 [02:27] <Wahrheit> aetherian: at 17 it's nice not to have russians calling you during clas
#221 [02:27] <Wahrheit> *class
#222 [02:27] <aetherian> SECURITY!
#223 [02:27] <Wahrheit> And I can't be assed to change it when I go to other servers
#224 [02:28] <aetherian> quit going to irc.anonops.net >.>
#225 [02:28] <Wahrheit> artherian: I don't
#226 [02:28] <Wahrheit> *aeth
#227 [02:28] <Wahrheit> aetherian: irc.summaxr.com
#228 [02:28] <aetherian> oh whatever
#229 [02:28] <aetherian> they're all the same
#230 [02:28] <Wahrheit> that's -my- server
#231 [02:28] <Wahrheit> it's not the same at all
#232 [02:29] <aetherian> and -I- don't care
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#234 [02:29] <aetherian> so who likes the pack, nevercast?
#235 [02:29] <nevercast> aetherian, I've not used it
#236 [02:29] <nevercast> aetherian, One sec I'll follow link
#237 [02:29] <aetherian> but did you look at it?
#238 [02:29] <aetherian> oh
#239 [02:30] <aetherian> it's so bloody awesome
#240 [02:30] <Wahrheit> aetherian: just make informed statements and don't assume, that's all I'm asking. :/
#241 [02:30] <nevercast> Meh
#242 [02:30] <nevercast> Like my pack better
#243 [02:30] <aetherian> mine has better graphics
#244 [02:31] <aetherian> and war? stop hilighting mr.
#245 [02:31] <nevercast> FUCK
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#247 [02:31] <nevercast> I dun-goofed!
#248 [02:31] <nevercast> I accidently bumped the GIMP paint brush on the texture sheet
#249 [02:31] <aetherian> lmaooooo
#250 [02:31] <nevercast> Now I have a black circle on my grass
#251 [02:32] <aetherian> quit typing "import EpicFail
#252 [02:32] <aetherian> "
#253 [02:32] <nevercast> using EpicLib.Failure;
#254 [02:32] <nevercast> Know what fuck this
#255 [02:32] <nevercast> I'm making a tool that handles this shit
#256 [02:33] <aetherian> haha
#257 [02:33] <nevercast> grr
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#259 [02:38] <nevercast> aetherian, any idea why there is no water flowing animation?
#260 [02:38] <aetherian> in what?
#261 [02:38] <nevercast> aetherian, mine craft.
#262 [02:38] <aetherian> o.o
#263 [02:38] <aetherian> there... there is?
#264 [02:38] <nevercast> not for me
#265 [02:39] <aetherian> quit downloading texture packs then
#266 [02:39] <nevercast> why should that matter?
#267 [02:39] <nevercast> it has all the same textures as the default
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#269 [02:39] <Draglems1> Question: How come a squid damaged me when the wiki says they don't attack?
#270 [02:40] <aetherian> ...
#271 [02:40] <nevercast> Draglems1, Maybe you attacked it first
#272 [02:40] <aetherian> it wasn't from dorwning either?
#273 [02:40] <nevercast> Attack != Retaliate
#274 [02:40] <Draglems1> They attack when you hit them?
#275 [02:40] <Draglems1> Oh, Its just the wiki said they do't attack..
#276 [02:40] <nevercast> idk
#277 [02:40] <nevercast> but if you attacked me
#278 [02:40] <nevercast> I'd hit you back
#279 [02:41] <Draglems1> but I'd hit you with a arrow.
#280 [02:41] <Draglems1> from the top of my castle, as you ride on a spider.
#281 [02:41] <aetherian> o.o
#282 [02:42] * aetherian would be behind you as you fired upon nevercast and hit you off your castle with a diamond sword
#282 [02:43] <nevercast> haha
#283 [02:43] * Draglems1 DIAMOND ARMOUR took 2.5 damage! Draglems1's casts Grand Gaia!
#283 [02:43] <nevercast> Nice shot aetherian
#284 [02:43] <nevercast> Grand Gaia?
#285 [02:43] <nevercast> The fuck is that shit
#286 [02:43] <Draglems1> Gaia >> Mother Gaia >> Grand Gaia
#287 [02:43] * aetherian casts ice barrage
#287 [02:43] <Draglems1> I was using golden sun skills :D~
#288 [02:43] <aetherian> get him nevercast!
#289 [02:43] <Draglems1> ...''
#290 [02:43] <Draglems1> Question.
#291 [02:43] <aetherian> while he's immobilized!
#292 [02:43] <Draglems1> How exactly did you freeze me..
#293 [02:43] <Draglems1> when I casted a fire spell..?
#294 [02:43] * aetherian casted ice barrage
#294 [02:44] * Draglems1 The wild DRAGLEMS1 Was frozen!
#294 [02:44] <Wahrheit> dabu dabu dabu
#295 [02:44] * Draglems1 LVL 40, FRZ.
#295 [02:44] * aetherian surrounds draglems1 with barricades
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#296 [02:44] * Draglems1 broke free from the Ice!
#296 [02:44] * aetherian fires at draglems1 with his crossbow
#296 [02:44] * nevercast stares at Draglems1
#296 [02:44] * Draglems1 Fainted!
#296 [02:44] <aetherian> you're dead now
#297 [02:44] <nevercast> *sigh*..
#298 [02:44] * nevercast continues cutting wood
#298 [02:44] * Draglems1 Aetherian gained 5000exp!
#298 [02:45] <aetherian> level up!
#299 [02:45] * Draglems1 Oh? Whats this? AETHERIAN IS EVOVLING!
#299 [02:45] <nevercast> 1up
#300 [02:45] <aetherian> TOO MANY GAME REFERENCES
#301 [02:45] <nevercast> Pokemon and bad English.
#302 [02:45] * nevercast dislikes
#302 [02:45] <aetherian> a winner is me!
#303 [02:45] <nevercast> ^
#304 [02:46] <Draglems1> You're Luigi!
#305 [02:46] <Draglems1> Number one!
#306 [02:46] <aetherian> wait, I evolved into luigi?
#307 [02:46] <aetherian> what is this, the second law of thermodynamics?
#308 [02:47] <Draglems1> yes
#309 [02:47] <Draglems1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZ6zKuZFY0
#310 [02:47] <aetherian> DRAGLEMS1 has respawned!
#311 [02:47] <aetherian> ...
#312 [02:47] <Draglems1> DRAGLEMS1 went into a cave!
#313 [02:48] <Draglems1> DRAGLEMS1 got his SPIDER RIDER friends to come and help!
#314 [02:48] * aetherian covered the exit with TNT
#314 [02:48] <Draglems1> HOLY SHIIT
#315 [02:48] <Draglems1> DRAGLEMS1 has left the game!
#316 [02:48] <aetherian> INVEDIT MOTHERF-
#317 [02:48] <Draglems1> DRAGLEMS1 has joined the game!
#318 [02:48] <nevercast> Damn it
#319 [02:48] <Draglems1> *Changed to good side*
#320 [02:48] * aetherian has teamkilled draglems1!
#320 [02:49] <nevercast> Draglems1.. SHUT UP!
#321 [02:49] <Draglems1> ..Sniff
#322 [02:49] <nevercast> Thanks :)
#323 [02:49] * aetherian has cast SILENCE on nevercast!
#323 [02:49] <nevercast> O.o
#324 [02:49] <nevercast> Yeah.. right :P
#325 [02:50] * Draglems1 Casts Sing on NEVERCAST!
#325 [02:50] <Draglems1> *Jigglypuff music*
#326 [02:50] <aetherian> *spell backfires and hits aubot
#327 [02:50] * Cial has no clue what is going on
#327 [02:50] * aetherian sings to aubot
#327 [02:50] <aetherian> cial: it's complicated.
#328 [02:50] <Draglems1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjyL2Wooh9Q
#329 [02:50] <Cial> im not sure i want to know
#330 [02:51] <aetherian> scroll up :D
#331 [02:51] <Cial> just remeber to use protection kiddies
#332 [02:51] * Draglems1 Used FREEZE on AuBot !
#332 [02:51] * aetherian has gone up a level in defence!
#332 [02:52] * aetherian can now use cowhide armour!
#332 [02:52] <aetherian> wait... wtf?
#333 [02:52] <Draglems1> ?
#334 [02:53] <aetherian> I went up a level so now I can use c'hide armour o.o
#335 [02:53] <aetherian> this game is messed up
#336 [02:53] * GreyBot [GreyBot@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#337 [02:53] <nevercast> LOL
#338 [02:53] <nevercast> Cial, Children -.-"
#339 [02:53] <aetherian> !ping
#340 [02:53] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.41 Seconds.
#341 [02:53] <nevercast> !ping
#342 [02:53] <GreyBot> nevercast Your Ping time was 0.541 Seconds.
#343 [02:54] <nevercast> woo
#344 [02:54] * aetherian has learned skill: stupid bot !
#344 [02:54] <aetherian> stupid bot :D
#345 [02:54] * GreyBot bonks aetherian, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#345 [02:54] <Draglems1> !ping
#346 [02:54] <GreyBot> Draglems1 Your Ping time was 0.271 Seconds.
#347 [02:54] <nevercast> stupid bot?
#348 [02:54] * GreyBot bonks nevercast, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#348 [02:54] <Draglems1> ..Are they really bots?
#349 [02:54] <nevercast> lame
#350 [02:54] <Draglems1> stupid bot
#351 [02:54] <Draglems1> ...'
#352 [02:54] <nevercast> Draglems1, NO! They people -.-"
#353 [02:54] <nevercast> stupid Draglems1 lol.
#354 [02:54] <aetherian> draglems1: stupid bot s have rights too
#355 [02:54] * Draglems1 bonks nevercast, "Be nice to your father."
#355 [02:54] <nevercast> ^_^
#356 [02:54] <nevercast> Wait what
#357 [02:55] * aetherian bonka nevercast, "I just wanted to do that"
#357 [02:55] <Draglems1> Yes, I am your father, and son
#358 [02:55] <Draglems1> I'm quite disapoint.
#359 [02:55] <aetherian> lol
#360 [02:55] * aetherian accidentally nevercast
#360 [02:56] <aetherian> what happen?
#361 [02:58] <aetherian> psst, you were supposed to answer
#362 [02:59] <Draglems1> Err
#363 [02:59] <Draglems1> How do mob spawners work? Can't figure it out
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#365 [03:00] <Draglems1> wtf? theres been a cave right next to my house all this time?
#366 [03:00] <Draglems1> holy crap, lava.
#367 [03:02] <aetherian> lul
#368 [03:02] <Draglems1> ...I just heard wind
#369 [03:02] <Draglems1> what does that sound effect mean?
#370 [03:04] <Draglems1> OMG, That was so fucking close.
#371 [03:04] <Draglems1> i was a CM away from falling into lava.
#372 [03:04] <Draglems1> Cool redstone..
#373 [03:07] <mcpower> CM = 100th of a block.
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#375 [03:08] <Draglems1> ?
#376 [03:09] <Draglems1> DIAMONDS :D
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#378 [03:10] <aetherian> draglems1
#379 [03:10] <aetherian> darn you
#380 [03:10] <mcpower> ?
#381 [03:11] <aetherian> I turn back on my firefox that had saved tabs, in order to look something up on wikipedia, and there it was, that jigglypuff song
#382 [03:11] <aetherian> needless to say, I can't remember what I was going to look up
#383 [03:11] <aetherian> >.>
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#385 [03:12] <aetherian> ohhh, now I remember
#386 [03:12] <aetherian> !wik-
#387 [03:12] <aetherian> err
#388 [03:12] <aetherian> yeah
#389 [03:13] <Draglems1> Wow, what a fucktard I am.
#390 [03:13] <Draglems1> I just put out all the lava i was using for light..
#391 [03:14] <aetherian> grey would ban me if I did that command on his bot
#392 [03:14] <aetherian> haha
#393 [03:15] <Draglems1> hahahahaha
#394 [03:15] <Draglems1> !wik-
#395 [03:16] <aetherian> it ends with an i, you type !wik i and then the thing you want it to wiki. I reccomend "troll"
#396 [03:16] <aetherian> DO IT
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#398 [03:16] <JakeBro> Guys i really need help with my Server.
#399 [03:16] <JakeBro> Im trying to host it and then Log in on my laptop.
#400 [03:17] <JakeBro> But i always get a error.
#401 [03:17] <aetherian> what error...
#402 [03:17] <JakeBro> It says
#403 [03:17] <JakeBro> "Connection timed out: Connect"
#404 [03:17] <JakeBro> Or
#405 [03:17] <JakeBro> Connection refused"
#406 [03:17] <aetherian> is the port forwarded?
#407 [03:17] <JakeBro> Yes..
#408 [03:17] <aetherian> is the server actually running?
#409 [03:18] <JakeBro> Yes..
#410 [03:18] <aetherian> is it running offa wifi?
#411 [03:18] <JakeBro> Yeah
#412 [03:18] <aetherian> do you have the latest java?
#413 [03:18] <JakeBro> Yes..
#414 [03:18] <aetherian> do you have the latest drivers?
#415 [03:18] <JakeBro> No.
#416 [03:18] <JakeBro> I can run the server.
#417 [03:18] <aetherian> do you have the latest operating system updates?
#418 [03:18] <JakeBro> But.
#419 [03:18] <JakeBro> Cant connect to it
#420 [03:18] <JakeBro> Via my laptop.
#421 [03:18] * aetherian is just asking random question, lol
#421 [03:19] <aetherian> what's the ip
#422 [03:19] <JakeBro> 124.187.139.177
#423 [03:19] <aetherian> default port?
#424 [03:19] <Draglems1> no
#425 [03:19] <Draglems1> I did "troll" before
#426 [03:19] <Draglems1> and it was long.
#427 [03:19] <JakeBro> 25565
#428 [03:20] <aetherian> no it wasn't, draglems1
#429 [03:20] <aetherian> the longer the better
#430 [03:20] <JakeBro> Ae, have you got msn
#431 [03:20] <aetherian> uhh
#432 [03:20] <aetherian> no? maybe?
#433 [03:20] <JakeBro> Teamviewer?
#434 [03:20] <aetherian> whoa
#435 [03:20] <aetherian> your computer
#436 [03:20] <JakeBro> I need help man..
#437 [03:21] <aetherian> whilst pinging with windows cmd
#438 [03:21] <aetherian> shows for all of them
#439 [03:21] <aetherian> PING: transmit failed. General failure.
#440 [03:21] <aetherian> hey greyvulpine
#441 [03:21] <JakeBro> I get a new error
#442 [03:21] <JakeBro> In my
#443 [03:21] <JakeBro> Server Gui.
#444 [03:21] <JakeBro> It says its already in use
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#446 [03:21] <JakeBro> although it isnt?
#447 [03:21] <aetherian> something's running on that port then
#448 [03:22] <JakeBro> Nothing is.
#449 [03:22] <aetherian> are you sure
#450 [03:22] <nevercast> http://i.imgur.com/hD0Gb.jpg
#451 [03:22] <JakeBro> 100%.
#452 [03:22] <aetherian> restart your computer
#453 [03:22] <aetherian> and get back to me
#454 [03:22] <JakeBro> Mk.
#455 [03:22] <JakeBro> brb than
#456 [03:22] <Draglems1> Hello son.
#457 [03:22] <JakeBro> Cya
#458 [03:22] <Draglems1> *Pats Nevercasts head*.
#459 [03:22] <aetherian> who hasn't seen that, nevercast
#460 [03:22] <nevercast> Draglems1, Dont' start.
#461 [03:22] <nevercast> aetherian, I hadn't until now
#462 [03:22] <Draglems1> Sorry.
#463 [03:23] * aetherian bonks nevercast on the head, "I just wanted to do that."
#463 [03:23] <aetherian> it'd be cool if actual minecraft was like that...
#464 [03:23] <aetherian> fair impossible in java though
#465 [03:23] <aetherian> brb
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#467 [03:24] <aetherian> back
#468 [03:24] <Draglems1> nothing really intesting in this dungeon.
#469 [03:24] <aetherian> thanks for holding the conversation
#470 [03:24] <Draglems1> McEdit time.
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#472 [03:24] <aetherian> o.o
#473 [03:25] <nevercast> aetherian, It's not impossible
#474 [03:25] <nevercast> aetherian, Just slow
#475 [03:25] * nidefawl [nidefawl@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#476 [03:25] <nevercast> aetherian, That image has BumpMapping
#477 [03:25] <aetherian> it requires intense three dimensional graphics
#478 [03:25] <nevercast> aetherian, He'd have to start using C/++
#479 [03:25] <aetherian> besides
#480 [03:25] <aetherian> I said "fair impossible" not impossible
#481 [03:26] <aetherian> nevercast: or ASM
#482 [03:26] <aetherian> :DDD
#483 [03:27] <nevercast> aetherian, Not ASM
#484 [03:27] <aetherian> technically
#485 [03:28] <aetherian> but know what'd be better?
#486 [03:28] <nevercast> what?
#487 [03:28] <aetherian> he should just rewrite it in machine code for all different processors.
#488 [03:28] <aetherian> take but a trifling amount of time
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#490 [03:28] <nevercast> lame
#491 [03:28] <JakeBro> Back
#492 [03:28] <aetherian> lol
#493 [03:28] <JakeBro> Aetherian.
#494 [03:29] <aetherian> hello?
#495 [03:29] <JakeBro> Should i run the server now?
#496 [03:29] <JakeBro> And see if it works
#497 [03:29] <aetherian> sure
#498 [03:29] <JakeBro> Nope
#499 [03:29] <JakeBro> Maybe my Ip is in use? O.o?
#500 [03:29] <JakeBro> lol
#501 [03:29] <JakeBro> Wait
#502 [03:29] <JakeBro> I think i know
#503 [03:29] <JakeBro> brb
#504 [03:29] <nevercast> Dude
#505 [03:29] <nevercast> Too much whitespace
#506 [03:30] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, You available?
#507 [03:30] <aetherian> sadly, kealper went to bed (whuzzat? bed)
#508 [03:30] <nevercast> I've got a problem in Minecraft
#509 [03:30] <nevercast> My fences are not showing up
#510 [03:30] <aetherian> quit using texture packs
#511 [03:30] <nevercast> I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter with this pack
#512 [03:31] <JakeBro> Aetherian, Would i be able to use a "No-Ip" as my ip?
#513 [03:31] <aetherian> ...
#514 [03:31] <aetherian> go to your properties file
#515 [03:31] <aetherian> and find the line that says something like "server-ip"
#516 [03:31] <JakeBro> Yea.
#517 [03:32] <aetherian> and delete anything that comes after it
#518 [03:32] <aetherian> leave it blank
#519 [03:32] <JakeBro> IOh
#520 [03:32] <JakeBro> Oh*
#521 [03:32] <aetherian> ...
#522 [03:32] <aetherian> fix'd
#523 [03:32] <nevercast> JakeBro, No-IP isn't an IP.. so no.. but yes do what aetherian said lol.
#524 [03:32] <JakeBro> So now if i went on to my laptop. (same internet) What ip would i use to connect to my Server?
#525 [03:33] <aetherian> your desktops external ip
#526 [03:33] <JakeBro> Alright
#527 [03:33] <aetherian> 124.187.139.177 you said it was?
#528 [03:33] <JakeBro> Yeah
#529 [03:33] <aetherian> you sure?
#530 [03:33] <JakeBro> Yeah
#531 [03:34] <aetherian> is the server running?
#532 [03:34] <JakeBro> Yes.
#533 [03:35] * The-Fall^AMARIA [The-Fall^AMARIA@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#534 [03:35] <The-Fall^AMARIA> Hello everyone
#535 [03:35] <nevercast> Hey TehZomB
#536 [03:35] <aetherian> hello
#537 [03:35] <nevercast> eugh
#538 [03:35] <nevercast> The-Fall^AMARIA,
#539 [03:35] <aetherian> fail
#540 [03:35] <The-Fall^AMARIA> lol
#541 [03:35] <nevercast> shh
#542 [03:35] <aetherian> FAILURE
#543 [03:36] <aetherian> ...!
#544 [03:38] <nevercast> aetherian
#545 [03:38] <JakeBro> Who made minecraft? O.o
#546 [03:38] <nevercast> Notch
#547 [03:38] <aetherian> yes?
#548 [03:38] <JakeBro> Hmm,
#549 [03:38] <nevercast> youtube.com/watch?v=y_RhVyc-0e4
#550 [03:38] <nevercast> http://youtube.com/watch?v=y_RhVyc-0e4
#551 [03:38] <aetherian> spamzoz
#552 [03:39] <JakeBro> who has a Good server?
#553 [03:39] <JakeBro> That is online?
#554 [03:39] <JakeBro> Ill see if i can connect
#555 [03:39] <nevercast> JakeBro, Check the server list.
#556 [03:39] <nevercast> aetherian, What's the address for server list :P
#557 [03:39] <JakeBro> Which is where?
#558 [03:40] <aetherian> uhhh
#559 [03:40] <aetherian> go to 127.0.0.1 , there should be some there
#560 [03:40] <nevercast> LOL
#561 [03:41] <JakeBro> ..
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#563 [03:42] <nevercast> ROFL
#564 [03:42] <aetherian> I'd say to type /part because it shows the special channel instructions, but for some reason, greyvulpine doesn't want me doing this, and would ban me
#565 [03:42] <aetherian> :)
#566 [03:42] <nevercast> Can I do it?
#567 [03:42] <aetherian> yeh
#568 [03:42] <nevercast> woot
#569 [03:42] <aetherian> it shows instructions
#570 [03:42] <aetherian> on mc
#571 [03:42] <aetherian> cool script
#572 [03:42] <nevercast> Nah I've been banned twice in 2 days ( first two days I was here ).. I'm not gonna risk it again :P
#573 [03:43] <aetherian> you wouldn't be banned
#574 [03:43] <aetherian> trust me
#575 [03:43] <aetherian> it's not a public thing
#576 [03:43] <aetherian> private thing
#577 [03:43] <nevercast> GR
#578 [03:43] <nevercast> I need help with this bug
#579 [03:43] * aetherian gets a flyswatter
#579 [03:43] <nevercast> lol
#580 [03:43] * aetherian swats nevercast upside the head
#580 [03:43] <aetherian> one bug down, one to go
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#582 [03:44] <aetherian> lul
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#584 [03:44] <nevercast> lol
#585 [03:44] <nevercast> aetherian, You hosting?
#586 [03:44] <aetherian> not right now, sadly, trying to get too much setup
#587 [03:45] <aetherian> running multiple OSs is hard for my compy
#588 [03:45] <nevercast> lol
#589 [03:45] <aetherian> (vm)
#590 [03:45] <nevercast> my laptop runs lots of OSs at once
#591 [03:45] <aetherian> oh man, I want this game
#592 [03:45] <nevercast> O.o
#593 [03:45] <aetherian> best graphics ever
#594 [03:45] <aetherian> http://bit.ly/dEeUce
#595 [03:45] <aetherian> heh
#596 [03:46] <aetherian> deuce
#597 [03:46] <aetherian> isn't that awesome?
#598 [03:47] <aetherian> ...
#599 [03:47] <aetherian> well, I think it is ;_;
#600 [03:47] <nevercast> It is :)
#601 [03:48] <nevercast> I need a server to play on
#602 [03:48] <aetherian> better than xboc, that's for sure
#603 [03:48] <nevercast> playing with myself has gotten boring ^_^
#604 [03:48] <aetherian> haha
#605 [03:48] <aetherian> make a server
#606 [03:48] <nevercast> will you join?
#607 [03:49] <aetherian> someone will
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#610 [03:52] <aetherian> I know what I wish I had
#611 [03:53] <aetherian> a small game of life thing, with like led lights or something
#612 [03:53] <dsample> I'm trying to get Tectonicus running on my server, but it doesn't start because it can't seem to find textures
#613 [03:53] <aetherian> well, quit hiding them
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#615 [03:58] <dsample> http://pastebin.com/pxamwGCZ Any ideas what the problem might be?
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#618 [04:17] <aetherian> no
#619 [04:17] <aetherian> no ideas over here
#620 [04:18] * SagartBare [SagartBare@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#621 [04:19] <SagartBare> Hey guys, just wondering if there's any way to check if you have an alpha or beta account
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#623 [04:21] <relsqui> are there different account types? I thought there were just different game versions
#624 [04:21] <relsqui> you can check if you have a paid account or not
#625 [04:21] <SagartBare> I know i purchased
#626 [04:22] <relsqui> I'm not aware of there being any other distinction
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#628 [04:28] <SagartBare> Looks like i've a beta, looking at my purchase date
#629 [04:28] <SagartBare> so "all future updates will be provided free of charge" doesnt apply to me
#630 [04:28] <SagartBare> which is why i was wondering
#631 [04:29] <aetherian> ah, what a lovely song
#632 [04:32] <aetherian> !help
#633 [04:33] <aetherian> !paid onetwo
#634 [04:33] <aetherian> :O
#635 [04:33] <SagartBare> !paid weaslor
#636 [04:33] <SagartBare> cool
#637 [04:33] <aetherian> why do we need a !myip >.>
#638 [04:33] <aetherian> /whois is better
#639 [04:33] <aetherian> !myip
#640 [04:33] <aetherian> :D
#641 [04:34] <aetherian> !ping
#642 [04:34] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.451 Seconds.
#643 [04:34] <SagartBare> !ping
#644 [04:34] <GreyBot> SagartBare Your Ping time was 0.481 Seconds.
#645 [04:34] <relsqui> SagartBare: wait. isn't beta what's current?
#646 [04:34] <lemon-rev> yes
#647 [04:34] <aetherian> this song is so gonna be stuck in my head like all tomorrow
#648 [04:35] <relsqui> oh, I see
#649 [04:35] * relsqui reads wiki
#649 [04:35] <SagartBare> but people who purchased during alpha got a better deal, and all future dlc guaranteed free
#650 [04:35] <lemon-rev> well so thats there privilage
#651 [04:35] <SagartBare> aye
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#654 [04:46] <aetherian> o.o
#655 [04:46] <aetherian> o.-
#656 [04:46] <aetherian> o.o
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#658 [04:47] <aetherian> hey paddy
#659 [04:47] * aetherian eats paddy
#659 [04:47] <aetherian> yummm
#660 [04:47] <Paddy> hey
#661 [04:48] <Paddy> I have a problem :(
#662 [04:50] <Paddy> When i go to minecraft.net and log in it says 'Failed to log in. Wrong username and/or password.'
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#665 [05:00] <mib_2r4l5l> who wants lasanga?
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#668 [05:03] <Tim> Hello
#669 [05:04] <Tim> Could anyone give the haspaid link?
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#671 [05:04] <Draglems1> How do you get Monster spawners to work?
#672 [05:04] <Tim> As In?
#673 [05:05] <Draglems1> ?
#674 [05:05] <Draglems1> Outside.
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#676 [05:05] <Tim> Normal or Cheated
#677 [05:05] <Draglems1> I*giggle*I
#678 [05:05] <Draglems1> Normal
#679 [05:05] <Draglems1> I found one today :O
#680 [05:05] <Tim> Turn on to easy normal or hard
#681 [05:05] <Tim> at night monsters will spawn
#682 [05:05] <Draglems1> easy IS on.
#683 [05:05] <Draglems1> I destoryed it
#684 [05:05] <Draglems1> and collected it.
#685 [05:06] <Tim> You cant collect a spawner
#686 [05:06] <Draglems1> Odd..
#687 [05:06] <Draglems1> ....'
#688 [05:06] <Draglems1> I'm a moron..
#689 [05:06] <Draglems1> I was holding a peice of glass..
#690 [05:06] <Tim> XD
#691 [05:06] <Tim> Btw
#692 [05:06] <Tim> if you find another one
#693 [05:06] <Tim> dont destroy it
#694 [05:06] <Draglems1> Why?
#695 [05:06] <Tim> Try make a spawner trap for items
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#697 [05:07] <Tim> Lots of people here and no-one speaks
#698 [05:07] <SinZ> Tim, what u need
#699 [05:08] <Tim> huh
#700 [05:08] <SinZ> why u need the haspaid link
#701 [05:08] <Tim> Oh
#702 [05:08] <Tim> Someone said they had payed and gave me their username
#703 [05:08] <SinZ> !haspaid S1NZ
#704 [05:08] <SinZ> !paid S1NZ
#705 [05:09] <Tim> !paid sykes97
#706 [05:09] <Tim> Oo
#707 [05:09] <Tim> Im Try mine
#708 [05:09] <Tim> !paid DjM1zw1z
#709 [05:10] <aetherian> yaaayyy
#710 [05:10] <Tim> Just asking, is the free version of minecraft alloud?
#711 [05:10] <SinZ> ehh which one
#712 [05:10] <Tim> not the classic
#713 [05:10] <aetherian> finished one fifth of my essay that's due a coupla days from today and that my mum thinks I've already done :#
#714 [05:10] <Tim> The free beta launcher
#715 [05:10] <SinZ> Only free version of minecraft is classic
#716 [05:10] <aetherian> night guys, I'll be better off with sleep
#717 [05:10] <SinZ> rest is illigal unless paid
#718 [05:10] <aetherian> !wiki
#719 [05:10] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/
#720 [05:10] <aetherian> yay
#721 [05:10] <aetherian> night
#722 [05:10] <Tim> Oh
#723 [05:11] <Tim> I Had free then i bought a week ago
#724 [05:11] <Tim> Could i be banned for that
#725 [05:11] <aetherian> BAN HIM >:O
#726 [05:11] <SinZ> you have an account now, doesn't matter
#727 [05:11] <aetherian> no not really
#728 [05:11] <aetherian> people come in here all the time about their haxxored mc clients
#729 [05:12] <Tim> £ 13 For Such A Epic Game Is a bargain
#730 [05:12] <aetherian> well,
#731 [05:12] <aetherian> goodbye,
#732 [05:12] <aetherian> now.
#733 [05:12] <Draglems1> !paid aetherian
#734 [05:12] <SinZ> lol AuBot failed
#735 [05:12] <SinZ> forgot to kick in the middle
#736 [05:12] <Tim> !paid MineCraft
#737 [05:12] <Tim> XD
#738 [05:13] <Draglems1> !paid Youtube
#739 [05:13] <Draglems1> !paid YourMom
#740 [05:13] <SinZ> sad sad people
#741 [05:13] <SinZ> !paid Deadmau5
#742 [05:13] <Tim> LEw
#743 [05:13] <Tim> Wtf
#744 [05:13] <Tim> YourMom?
#745 [05:13] <Tim> My Other Account
#746 [05:13] <Tim> !paid M1zw1z
#747 [05:13] <DjM1zw1z> Finally
#748 [05:14] <SinZ> random name ftw?
#749 [05:14] <DjM1zw1z> Huh?
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#751 [05:14] <DjM1zw1z> its so annoying
#752 [05:14] <DjM1zw1z> All my friends have FREE minecraft so i cant go on multiplayer
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#754 [05:14] <DjM1zw1z> with any
#755 [05:17] <DjM1zw1z> !paid ShaRose
#756 [05:17] <ShaRose> ?
#757 [05:17] <DjM1zw1z> XD
#758 [05:17] <DjM1zw1z> Sorry
#759 [05:17] <SinZ> Dj, tell your friends to suck cock and get the real version
#760 [05:17] <DjM1zw1z> I told them that
#761 [05:17] <SinZ> oh, and linky plz =D
#762 [05:17] <DjM1zw1z> and they cant afford a small ammount of money
#763 [05:17] <DjM1zw1z> Linky?
#764 [05:18] <SinZ> link for "Free Minecraft"
#765 [05:18] <ShaRose> I literally bought in within an hour of the servers going up after that free weekend thing
#766 [05:18] <SinZ> do /msg SinZ message
#767 [05:18] <ShaRose> SinZ ban
#768 [05:18] <DjM1zw1z> Ok
#769 [05:18] <SinZ> i got paid anyway
#770 [05:18] <SinZ> !paid S1NZ
#771 [05:18] <SinZ> good bot
#772 [05:18] <ShaRose> tl;dr notch messed up some stuff on the server and you can download it all for free
#773 [05:19] <SinZ> i know free weekend
#774 [05:19] <SinZ> but that was like alpha 1.0.7 or something
#775 [05:19] <ShaRose> http://minecraft.net/client/minecraft.jar I mean, it's still messed up. See?
#776 [05:19] <SinZ> 1.0.15
#777 [05:20] <ShaRose> all that guy did was make a patched launcher that feeds the game false info.
#778 [05:20] <DjM1zw1z> Yes But Its Still free and it works
#779 [05:20] <ShaRose> Really, it's notch's fault, we emailed him about in when we found out about it a good while ago
#780 [05:20] <DjM1zw1z> But How
#781 [05:21] <DjM1zw1z> He Cant Do Everything
#782 [05:21] <ShaRose> how?
#783 [05:21] <ShaRose> he can fix it so you need a login token
#784 [05:21] <ShaRose> you used to, but he broke it
#785 [05:21] <DjM1zw1z> hm
#786 [05:21] <ShaRose> that, and we contacted him at the very least a month ago
#787 [05:21] <ShaRose> probably 2 or 3
#788 [05:23] <DjM1zw1z> Sha
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#790 [05:23] <DjM1zw1z> Your Giving The Impression Thats it 100% Ok And Alloud
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#792 [05:24] <ShaRose> I'm saying it's not?
#793 [05:24] <ShaRose> I'm saying they've known for a while about it
#794 [05:24] <ShaRose> and that if they lose sales or whatever it's their own fault.
#795 [05:25] <DjM1zw1z> Its Still In Beta for a reason though
#796 [05:25] <DjM1zw1z> One of these is a example
#797 [05:26] <DjM1zw1z> Once the full is out all the fake launchers should be patched
#798 [05:26] <ShaRose> or they could add serverside security and keep it updated?
#799 [05:26] <DjM1zw1z> You never know
#800 [05:26] <ShaRose> DjM1zw1z do you even know how to program
#801 [05:27] <DjM1zw1z> im 13 so no
#802 [05:27] <ShaRose> age has nothing to do with knowledge.
#803 [05:27] <DjM1zw1z> In school we dont have programming classes
#804 [05:28] <ShaRose> basically a fix like that should take 20 minutes if you mess around for a bit
#805 [05:28] <ShaRose> DjM1zw1z and
#806 [05:28] <ShaRose> ooOOOooo
#807 [05:29] <DjM1zw1z> And What ?
#808 [05:29] <ShaRose> if you have internet access and any real desire to learn how to program you can
#809 [05:29] <DjM1zw1z> Its not really my thing
#810 [05:29] <ShaRose> also, the confuser dev updated my question on assembly merging :D
#811 [05:30] <DjM1zw1z> I use pc for Info, Flight Sim and MC
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#813 [05:30] <ShaRose> Hmm.
#814 [05:30] <ShaRose> I should go to bed.
#815 [05:30] <ShaRose> 7 am etc
#816 [05:30] <DjM1zw1z> hm
#817 [05:37] <SinZ> !check deluded.ath.cx
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#819 [05:43] <ImTheOcean> Hello there, anyone here ?
#820 [05:46] <DjM1zw1z> Hello
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#823 [05:52] <ImTheOcean> DjM1zw1z: can you help me with something that has to do with paypal and minecraft ? =) I really want to buy it, but I'm a internet shop noob .. especially with paypal
#824 [05:56] <DjM1zw1z> ok
#825 [05:58] <ImTheOcean> So I want to buy MC, got a paypal account. but when I try to go and buy the game, paypal asks for a credit card. Will this go away when I put money on the paypal acount, or will it just stay. I live in Belgium.
#826 [05:58] <ImTheOcean> I just don't want to waste money =)
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#828 [05:59] <keret> hi there
#829 [06:03] <DjM1zw1z> I Think it will stay
#830 [06:03] <ImTheOcean> =/ hmm
#831 [06:03] <ImTheOcean> that's not good
#832 [06:04] <DjM1zw1z> But it will not make hidden charged
#833 [06:04] <DjM1zw1z> charges
#834 [06:04] <DjM1zw1z> You should buy a gift code and use it
#835 [06:04] <ImTheOcean> ye, the thing is, I don't have a credit card
#836 [06:04] <ImTheOcean> so wanted to transfer the money from my bank acount to paypal
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#838 [06:12] <DjM1zw1z> Confusing
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#840 [06:19] <Roenie> http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180032_166815320032262_100001113856600_357066_7012088_n.jpg
#841 [06:21] <DjM1zw1z> LOL
#842 [06:21] <DjM1zw1z> caps
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#850 [07:41] <DjM1zw1z> Back
#851 [07:41] <DjM1zw1z> !paid deludedrich#
#852 [07:41] <DjM1zw1z> !paid Deludedrich
#853 [07:45] <qaoru> !paid qaoru
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#860 [08:47] <DjM1zw1z> !paid Emo
#861 [08:47] <DjM1zw1z> !paid You
#862 [08:48] <DjM1zw1z> !paid Minecraft!
#863 [08:48] <DjM1zw1z> !paid Minecraft
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#866 [08:49] <DjM1zw1z> Boring
#867 [08:56] <Kealper> >.>
#868 [08:58] <fogWraith> :|
#869 [09:00] * xales suggests an ignore-list feature for AuBot
#869 [09:00] <xales> ._.
#870 [09:01] * xales uses Kealper to slap AuBot
#870 [09:03] <Kealper> i think i'm going to take the " back" out of that, it'd be funnier on those random times
#871 [09:03] * xales agrees
#871 [09:04] <Kealper> but yeah, i was thinking about making it ignore people if they used more than 3 times in 60 sec it would just stop listening to them
#872 [09:04] <xales> I think manual as well, that way we don't have to disable it because one person is abusing it
#873 [09:06] <Kealper> i meant disable it for that specific person, but yeah when i implement this ignore specific users thing, i can add a command to make it ignore people
#874 [09:07] <xales> no, I knew what you meant, but not everyone will be doing it fast enough to trigger that
#875 [09:07] <xales> either way, ignoring is nice :)
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#879 [09:14] <gretchen> how do u set up multiplayer
#880 [09:18] <SinZ> =0
#881 [09:18] <SinZ> the bot talks
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#883 [09:19] <lahwran> AuBot: are you a bot or not
#884 [09:20] <Kealper> that's me, btw.....
#885 [09:20] <lahwran> oh.
#886 [09:21] <lahwran> remote control?
#887 [09:21] <Kealper> remote console to it....ftw
#888 [09:21] <lahwran> also, you quit a bit much for #idle
#889 [09:21] <Kealper> it's this fucking server's connection to california
#890 [09:21] <lahwran> you could specify a different server
#891 [09:22] <Kealper> as soon as it establishes an irc connection long enough to join channels and ident...it just craps out
#892 [09:22] <Kealper> meh...i don't DC enough to do that
#893 [09:22] <Kealper> i might set my timeout time down to like 190 sec though
#894 [09:23] <GreyBot> AuBot Your Ping time was 0.301 Seconds.
#895 [09:24] * Kealper unloads that console module
#895 [09:24] <SinZ> ...]
#896 [09:28] <fogWraith> Kealper, what do you think of this Bieber person?
#897 [09:29] <Kealper> i think it sounds like a chick when it sings
#898 [09:29] <Kealper> why?
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#900 [09:29] <fogWraith> Then let me blow your mind with this, lest you've seen it already: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRFrNZ_Br94
#901 [09:29] <Morpheus> hey guys. i need some help.
#902 [09:29] <Kealper> "Don't ask to ask, just ask!"
#903 [09:30] <Morpheus> err. i dont get it how to connect on a multiplayer server. btw: i'm searching a german alpha survival mode server. how do i connect to one and how do i find one?
#904 [09:30] <fogWraith> I hope you mean Beta?
#905 [09:31] <fogWraith> Or are you running pirated software, sir? ;)
#906 [09:31] <Kealper> well, yeah, are you using the beta client?
#907 [09:31] <Kealper> lol @ the rapper
#908 [09:31] <Morpheus> er.. yes i hope ^^
#909 [09:31] <Kealper> you paid for it, right?
#910 [09:31] <Morpheus> minecraft beta 1.2:02
#911 [09:31] <Kealper> ok
#912 [09:31] <Morpheus> yes. 10 minutes ago
#913 [09:32] <Kealper> to connect to a server, it's quite easy, on the game's main menu just click the Multiplayer button
#914 [09:32] <Kealper> it will ask you for an address to connect to, and you can find those at http://mcserverlist.net
#915 [09:32] <Morpheus> yes
#916 [09:32] <Kealper> when you found one that you want to give a go, type or paste it into that address box and hit connect
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#918 [09:33] <Morpheus> wait a sec. i try it
#919 [09:33] <Kealper> so fogWraith...i have an issue....
#920 [09:34] <Kealper> my server that i irc on is in a datacenter (in the country Panama -.-)...i can get consistant ping responses from both canis.esper.net and apocalypse.esper.net
#921 [09:34] <Morpheus> it says to me "Failed to connect: Bad log in."
#922 [09:34] <fogWraith> Constant ping responses?
#923 [09:35] <fogWraith> Are they scanning you?
#924 [09:35] <Kealper> Morpheus: did you log in with the account that you paid for?
#925 [09:35] <Morpheus> yes.
#926 [09:35] <Kealper> fogWraith: no, i mean if i ping those addresses with an icmp ping
#927 [09:35] <fogWraith> I don't get the problem here? :P
#928 [09:36] <Kealper> fogWraith: but if i actually connect my irssi to one of those two servers, i will lose connection to it as soon as i stay on long enough to join channels/auth to nickserv
#929 [09:36] <fogWraith> Blacklist them and use the other servers? :P
#930 [09:37] <Kealper> and it's not like the server is killing the connection to my client, because it stays half open without packet flow until i time out
#931 [09:37] <fogWraith> Datacenter fail?
#932 [09:37] <Morpheus> ah. it worked. i had to restart my minecraft
#933 [09:37] <Morpheus> thank you
#934 [09:38] <Kealper> weird fix, but ok, glad that worked ^^
#935 [09:38] <Kealper> fogWraith: quite, and the strange thing is that california is geographically closest to my server :<
#936 [09:38] <fogWraith> Closest to you maybe :P
#937 [09:39] <Kealper> cali is actually farther from my house than to Panama, i think....never really bothered to check
#938 [09:39] <fogWraith> I never use IRC in such mysterious ways as you do, so I wouldn't know :P
#939 [09:39] <SkiingPenguins> i want a map but it shows how close things are in terms of the internet
#940 [09:40] <Kealper> i want a stable connection to california -.-
#941 [09:40] <fogWraith> SkiingPenguins, http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/visual-tracert/
#942 [09:40] <fogWraith> This?
#943 [09:40] <Kealper> i want in on some of those 50ms ping to an irc server :/
#944 [09:40] <fogWraith> I dunno what my ping to the ircserverness is :P
#945 [09:41] <SkiingPenguins> fogWraith thats a cool website!
#946 [09:41] <fogWraith> SkiingPenguins, there are plenty of tools like that, some better... some worse
#947 [09:42] <SkiingPenguins> i wonder if there is one to let me see it trace from my computer, not their website
#948 [09:42] <SkiingPenguins> oh nvm
#949 [09:42] <SkiingPenguins> i scrolled down.
#950 [09:43] <Kealper> i totally forgot about traceroute.....
#951 [09:44] * Kealper does that to the california irc leafs
#951 [09:44] <Kealper> hmm...would multiple leaf servers in a network be leaves or leafs....
#952 [09:44] <fogWraith> One leaf, many leaves
#953 [09:44] <Kealper> leaves?.....idk...too early in the morning for me to think
#954 [09:44] <fogWraith> :P
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#956 [09:45] <Kealper> do i seriously have to be rooted to traceroute? ugh....
#957 [09:46] <fogWraith> No?
#958 [09:46] <Altazimuth> Is it possible to up the Gamma on MC?
#959 [09:46] <Kealper> Altazimuth: though graphics card driver settings, probably
#960 [09:46] <Altazimuth> I literally can't see MC due to the absurdly high levels of light in my room
#961 [09:46] <fogWraith> Kealper, the hell kind of restricted server you on? ;P
#962 [09:46] <Kealper> one that is set up SUUUUPER retarded
#963 [09:47] <fogWraith> Seems like it
#964 [09:47] <Kealper> and running centos....it makes me nerdrage
#965 [09:47] <fogWraith> :|
#966 [09:47] <Altazimuth> Centos?
#967 [09:47] * Altazimuth blanks
#967 [09:47] <Kealper> and if that isn't bad enough....it's even running a firewall so strict that i had to allow outgoing traffic for port 6667 just so i could get on irc :/
#968 [09:48] <Kealper> if this was my server, i'd kill this thing with fire and install debian on it :/
#969 [09:48] <fogWraith> That reminds me, I need to kill the test vps I created
#970 [09:48] <fogWraith> It installed ubuntu >_>
#971 [09:49] <Kealper> :o
#972 [09:50] <fogWraith> lets see what's available
#973 [09:51] <Kealper> am i just like...retarded right now or something? http://kealper.pastebin.com/HGx4M2Cb
#974 [09:51] <fogWraith> Centos, debian, fedora, gentoo, red hat enterprise, ubuntu
#975 [09:51] <fogWraith> That's a borked up server right there ;P
#976 [09:52] <Kealper> yeah....like seriously...no traceroute, even for root?
#977 [09:52] <fogWraith> ....
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#980 [09:53] <DjM1zw1z> hello
#981 [09:53] <Kealper> Iguana has a really long hostname
#982 [09:53] <Kealper> ello
#983 [09:53] <DjM1zw1z> any1 intresting in joining my server
#984 [09:54] <Kealper> this is not really the channel to be advertising servers in
#985 [09:54] <Kealper> /join #smp
#986 [09:54] <Kealper> for advertising SMP servers
#987 [09:54] <DjM1zw1z> huh
#988 [09:54] <DjM1zw1z> IRc is to annoying in commands
#989 [09:54] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#990 [09:55] <DjM1zw1z> ok
#991 [09:55] <SkiingPenguins> you are joining a channel, so you type /join #CHANNEL
#992 [09:55] <Kealper> it's not hard to type /join #smp >.>
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#994 [09:55] <Dravenable> a
#995 [09:55] <Kealper> b
#996 [09:55] <Dravenable> that was an test to see if i had to log in :P
#997 [09:56] <Dravenable> at any raid, can somebody help me out? (stupid question ._.
#998 [09:56] <Dravenable> me and my friend started an server 3 days ago
#999 [09:56] <Dravenable> all time was perfect
#1000 [09:56] <Dravenable> then today (1 minute ago) i tryd to join and i cna hit an block
#1001 [09:57] <Dravenable> and after 5 seconds my friend sees me standing still while i walk, MEANWHILE people join and DO walk around
#1002 [09:57] <Dravenable> so something IS wrong with my minecraft, after a while i get disconnected with some error...
#1003 [09:57] <Dravenable> please rescue me from this lame problem ._.
#1004 [09:57] <Kealper> is the error something about "connection timeout"?
#1005 [09:57] <Dravenable> nopes
#1006 [09:57] <Dravenable> let me write down the error :]
#1007 [09:58] <DjM1zw1z> is there a xat mc
#1008 [09:58] <Dravenable> xat mc?
#1009 [09:58] <Kealper> are you and your friend close to eachother geographically? (same town, state, otherwise)
#1010 [09:58] <DjM1zw1z> Xat minecraft chat
#1011 [09:58] <Kealper> Xat?
#1012 [09:58] <DjM1zw1z> chat website
#1013 [09:58] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#1014 [09:59] <Dravenable> yea same town
#1015 [09:59] <Dravenable> but i havent got any trouble with this the past week
#1016 [09:59] <Dravenable> it just happend AFTER the server crashed
#1017 [09:59] <Dravenable> but i got the error
#1018 [09:59] <Dravenable> one second
#1019 [09:59] <Kealper> Dravenable: does it do it every time? or just this once?
#1020 [09:59] <Dravenable> every time
#1021 [09:59] <Dravenable> the map wont evel load fully
#1022 [09:59] <Dravenable> just an part then it stops and i get the error
#1023 [10:00] <Dravenable> internal exception : java.net.socketexeption: connection reset by peer: socket write error
#1024 [10:00] <Dravenable> thats the error i get
#1025 [10:00] <Kealper> and others can get in just fine? and they can also go to the same places you went to?
#1026 [10:00] <Dravenable> yup other get in
#1027 [10:00] <Dravenable> i can see them write
#1028 [10:00] <Dravenable> but i cant write ._.
#1029 [10:01] <Altazimuth> Is it normal for baby slimes to make the default hit ground sound insteadof the bigger slime sounds (sounds like a wet towel on tiles)
#1030 [10:01] <Kealper> did anything change at your house? (different ISP, are you downloading something with a torrent client? did any hardware in your computer change?)
#1031 [10:02] <Kealper> Altazimuth: slimes are....rather buggy atm...
#1032 [10:02] <Altazimuth> Ah
#1033 [10:02] <Altazimuth> Even in SSP?
#1034 [10:02] <Dravenable> hmmm... i quess the problem is found ._.
#1035 [10:02] <Dravenable> my dad is downloading games :@
#1036 [10:03] <Dravenable> he said: Im not downloading all day.. just started it ._.
#1037 [10:03] <Kealper> Dravenable: using a torrent client? (like uTorrent)
#1038 [10:03] <Dravenable> and the error started like 1 minute ago ._.
#1039 [10:03] <Dravenable> yup he downloads with torrents
#1040 [10:03] <GV> !ping
#1041 [10:03] <GreyBot> GV Your Ping time was 0.46 Seconds.
#1042 [10:03] <Kealper> what program is it exactly? because most torrent clients will let you cap the speeds
#1043 [10:04] <Dravenable> let me ask xd
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#1045 [10:05] <Kealper> i wish i had the spare change to get a small vps...
#1046 [10:05] <JeKeep> Hello, I have a problem, I bought the game but didn't receive any e-mail.
#1047 [10:05] <Dravenable> he uses gabbit but download is done after 10 minutes...
#1048 [10:05] <Kealper> JeKeep: did you check to see if you can log in to the game just fine? the email might have just sucked at getting to you in a timely fashion
#1049 [10:06] <Dravenable> so i will get back after download is done IF it doesnt works after that xd
#1050 [10:06] <Dravenable> thanks for all , cya
#1051 [10:07] <JeKeep> Nice, thanks Kealper
#1052 [10:07] <Altazimuth> Is there a channel which helps in mods around here?
#1053 [10:08] <GV> #risucraft
#1054 [10:08] <Altazimuth> thanks
#1055 [10:08] <GV> If you're looking for server mods, I'd recommend #bukkit
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#1057 [10:08] <Altazimuth> thanks
#1058 [10:08] <Altazimuth> Nameless asailent 120423 out
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#1060 [10:09] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#1061 [10:09] <Kealper> right then
#1062 [10:09] <GV> Oh hey, when did Dope get +o?
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#1064 [10:09] <Kealper> uhh...xales gave it to him a few days ago
#1065 [10:09] <exp0> Kealper: I did some testing and with MCServer r171 I could connect
#1066 [10:09] <GV> Oh.. kay
#1067 [10:10] <Kealper> what's MCServer r171?
#1068 [10:10] <exp0> it does say it is a MC Alpha server at the top, so that must be that someone didn't edit it when it was updated to 1.2_01
#1069 [10:10] <exp0> MCServer is a minecraft server bundle in C++
#1070 [10:10] <exp0> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=123733
#1071 [10:11] <Kealper> so...it's only with the stock mc server that fails for you?
#1072 [10:11] <Kealper> that's weird >.>
#1073 [10:11] <exp0> that is the only one that works
#1074 [10:12] <exp0> I've tried to use bukkit and the stock MC server. Neither worked.
#1075 [10:12] <Kealper> weird
#1076 [10:12] <GV> Then something's wrong with your java? Or a security software that's blocking java?
#1077 [10:12] <Kealper> ^
#1078 [10:13] <exp0> I've re-installed java a few times. Didnt fix it
#1079 [10:14] <exp0> I disabled all my security and n othing changed
#1080 [10:14] <exp0> Ill try to fix it more when I get back.
#1081 [10:15] <Kealper> exp0: what's the performance like on that MCServer?
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#1084 [10:20] <GV> exp0, what sort of error do you get when you try to use the java server?
#1085 [10:20] <GV> Are people just not able to connect?
#1086 [10:32] <jamster> does anyone use minecraft-overviewer?
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#1088 [10:34] <cfdpipeman> Is there a simple way to increase a the delay in a button switch?
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#1091 [10:37] <pipeman> oops
#1092 [10:37] <pipeman> Is there a simple way to increase the delay in a button switch?
#1093 [10:38] <mib_nxe7uj> My sound is broken anyway to fix that?
#1094 [10:46] <GV> pipeman - Repeater blocks add a little delay
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#1097 [10:54] <Griob> minecraft is down? doesnt appear to be, im on the site right now
#1098 [10:55] <Griob> which brings me to my next point, i just downloaded the linux version and im getting an error. running from terminal, using the extra memory command provided by the download page
#1099 [10:55] <Griob> i get algorithm not found. will pastebin
#1100 [10:55] <Griob> http://pastebin.com/Ss6QvwX9
#1101 [10:57] <pipeman> @GV - is that the only way?
#1102 [10:58] <GV> Yes
#1103 [10:58] <pipeman> ok, thanks
#1104 [10:58] <Griob> Any ideas?
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#1106 [11:01] <Kaya> argh...
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#1108 [11:01] <Kaya> why doesnt it feel like minecraft was worth the $26?
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#1110 [11:01] <dravenable> hey kealper im back ._.
#1111 [11:02] <dravenable> nobody is downloading and still same problem ._.
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#1113 [11:02] <Kaya> is there anyway to completely remove the minecraft app from my computer?
#1114 [11:02] <Kaya> i mean
#1115 [11:03] <Kaya> the minecraft file
#1116 [11:03] <Kaya> remove all history as well
#1117 [11:03] <dravenable> hhmm
#1118 [11:03] <dravenable> checked in Apdata?
#1119 [11:03] <mib_nxe7uj> i cant hear sound when there both at 100% anyway to fix that?
#1120 [11:04] <dravenable> no clue :s im here with an problem as well ._.
#1121 [11:04] <dravenable> if i join my friends server the map wont load fully and i get stupid error ._.
#1122 [11:06] <dravenable> PLEASE HELP ME OUT I CANT TAKE ANYMORE ._.
#1123 [11:07] <mib_nxe7uj> they said that the muilti was down
#1124 [11:07] <mib_nxe7uj> i think
#1125 [11:07] <mib_nxe7uj> but right now im in multi
#1126 [11:07] <dravenable> nop
#1127 [11:07] <mib_nxe7uj> lol
#1128 [11:07] <mib_nxe7uj> reinstall lol?
#1129 [11:07] <dravenable> theres 8 people in my friends room
#1130 [11:07] <dravenable> instal minecraft? XD
#1131 [11:07] <mib_nxe7uj> Reinstall lol
#1132 [11:08] <dravenable> that doesnt even has an instal :O
#1133 [11:08] <mib_nxe7uj> dunno
#1134 [11:08] <dravenable> just an thingy ;o
#1135 [11:08] <mib_nxe7uj> =o
#1136 [11:08] <dravenable> icon
#1137 [11:08] <mib_nxe7uj> well i have no sound
#1138 [11:08] <mib_nxe7uj> and that is kinda deadly in this game
#1139 [11:08] <dravenable> checked in your right buttom corner?
#1140 [11:08] <dravenable> if its on?
#1141 [11:08] <mib_nxe7uj> you mean Options?
#1142 [11:08] <dravenable> no no
#1143 [11:08] <dravenable> i mean of your computer
#1144 [11:09] <dravenable> at your pc sound
#1145 [11:09] <mib_nxe7uj> i can hear music and watch shows
#1146 [11:09] <mib_nxe7uj> but no minecraft
#1147 [11:09] <dravenable> xD i meant if you double click your sound bar
#1148 [11:09] <dravenable> you get to see some icons with sound thingys
#1149 [11:09] <dravenable> check if minecraft is full
#1150 [11:09] <mib_nxe7uj> full? just downloaded it today lol
#1151 [11:09] <dravenable> then i has no idea :S
#1152 [11:10] <mib_nxe7uj> tired of not hearing creepers
#1153 [11:10] <dravenable> xd
#1154 [11:10] <Kaya> LOL.
#1155 [11:10] <Kaya> HAHAHA
#1156 [11:10] <Kaya> no sounds
#1157 [11:10] <Kaya> SSSSSSSS
#1158 [11:10] <Kaya> BOOOM
#1159 [11:11] <mib_nxe7uj> lol its really bad
#1160 [11:11] <mib_nxe7uj> T T
#1161 [11:11] <Kaya> can tell
#1162 [11:11] <Kaya> half the fun of the game alone
#1163 [11:11] <Kaya> is in hearing the monsters nearby
#1164 [11:11] <Kaya> the thrill.
#1165 [11:11] <mib_nxe7uj> had them in the begining
#1166 [11:11] <mib_nxe7uj> and then just poof
#1167 [11:11] <Kaya> hmmm
#1168 [11:11] <Kaya> did you try the browser version?
#1169 [11:11] <Kaya> oh btw guys
#1170 [11:12] <Kaya> do you think it was worth it
#1171 [11:12] <mib_nxe7uj> Browser version lol?
#1172 [11:12] <Kaya> to buy minecraft?
#1173 [11:12] <Kaya> browser
#1174 [11:12] <Kaya> play minecraft from the browser -,-
#1175 [11:12] <exp0> ;/awat
#1176 [11:12] <mib_nxe7uj> its worth it
#1177 [11:12] <Kaya> how so?
#1178 [11:12] <mib_nxe7uj> well
#1179 [11:12] <mib_nxe7uj> if i had sound
#1180 [11:12] <mib_nxe7uj> i would love it more
#1181 [11:12] <Kaya> im being ridiculed like crazy
#1182 [11:13] <mib_nxe7uj> its only like 20$
#1183 [11:13] <Kaya> 26 for me
#1184 [11:13] <exp0> GV: you asked me "what sort of error do you get when you try to use the java server?"
#1185 [11:13] <Kaya> im singaporean
#1186 [11:13] <mib_nxe7uj> oo
#1187 [11:13] <Kaya> it hurts.
#1188 [11:13] <mib_nxe7uj> get a job
#1189 [11:13] <mib_nxe7uj> lol
#1190 [11:14] <dravenable> IM PISSED :@
#1191 [11:14] <dravenable> I CANT PLAY ON THE SERVER ME AND MY FRIEND CREATED :@
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#1193 [11:14] <dravenable> if i join browsered or downloaded i can stay like 1 freaking second
#1194 [11:14] <dravenable> then i cant do anything
#1195 [11:14] <dravenable> an dmap half loaded
#1196 [11:14] <dravenable> and BOOM ERROR FFS :@
#1197 [11:15] <Lacke> Hi, is it possible to go in Nether and use monster spawner in multiplayer? (actually I don't arrive to get the both working)
#1198 [11:16] <GV> dravenable - What error?
#1199 [11:16] <GV> exp0 - yes?
#1200 [11:16] <GV> dravenable - Could you pastebin.com it?
#1201 [11:17] <Kaya> i have a job
#1202 [11:18] <Kaya> problem is
#1203 [11:18] <Kaya> its still $26
#1204 [11:18] <Kaya> and
#1205 [11:18] <Kaya> its like -,-
#1206 [11:18] <Kaya> ugly
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#1208 [11:18] <Kealper> "I am looking for a solution for my server. Cause it lags. Not cause of bandwidth though. I can't get java to use more than one core. In my VPS I got 4 cores with 1,5GHz each. And in my case java only uses 1,5 Ghz instead of 6."
#1209 [11:18] <mib_nxe7uj> it is ugly
#1210 [11:18] <mib_nxe7uj> but its fun
#1211 [11:18] <mib_nxe7uj> if you have friends
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#1214 [11:19] <Griob> hell0o
#1215 [11:19] <Kealper> ello
#1216 [11:20] <Lacke> hi
#1217 [11:20] <Griob> turn up polka*
#1218 [11:20] <Griob> <Trahen0ts> how do you know I don't have boobs?
#1219 [11:20] <Griob> <Usiel> your picture
#1220 [11:20] <Griob> <Trahen0ts> that could be somebody else
#1221 [11:20] <Griob> <Usiel> looks like you
#1222 [11:20] <Griob> <Trahen0ts> ..
#1223 [11:20] <Griob> <Trahen0ts> thathuh?
#1224 [11:20] <Griob> huh?
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#1226 [11:20] <Lacke> Oh by the way, do you know why I got black screen with 256texture after login (strangely, it worked there was 2 day), and not with 128?
#1227 [11:21] <Kaya> friends?
#1228 [11:21] <Kealper> one could assume it's because you are using the hd texture fix, which must not support that size of textures?
#1229 [11:21] <Kaya> 0,0
#1230 [11:22] <Kaya> is there a survival mode with friends?
#1231 [11:22] <Elvang> Isn't that the default multiplayer mode?
#1232 [11:22] <Kaya> oh shit
#1233 [11:22] <Kaya> seriously?
#1234 [11:22] <Kaya> oh god im a dumbass -,-
#1235 [11:22] <Kaya> eh?
#1236 [11:22] <Kaya> i need a server
#1237 [11:22] <Kaya> apparently
#1238 [11:22] <Kaya> anyone got a server to lend me connect to?
#1239 [11:22] <mib_nxe7uj> sure
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#1241 [11:23] <mib_nxe7uj> 67.168.13.33:25565
#1242 [11:23] <Griob> Sorry bout that. ID10-t error on my part lol
#1243 [11:23] <Kealper> >.>
#1244 [11:24] <Kaya> failed to login
#1245 [11:24] <Kaya> bad login
#1246 [11:24] <Kaya> is what i get
#1247 [11:24] <Kaya> what the heck -,-
#1248 [11:24] <Kealper> Kaya: did you buy the game?
#1249 [11:24] <Kaya> yes
#1250 [11:24] <Kaya> oinkyzzz
#1251 [11:24] <Kaya> check yourself -,-
#1252 [11:24] <Kealper> try restarting your client, then
#1253 [11:24] <Kaya> im playing by the website =P
#1254 [11:24] <Kealper> !paid oinkyzzz
#1255 [11:25] <Kealper> oh, then log out of the website and log back in
#1256 [11:25] <Griob> http://pastebin.com/QdZvNwV1 NoSuchAlgorithmException, for algorithm PBEWithMD5AndDES
#1257 [11:25] <Griob> it worked 2 days ago, the last time i played
#1258 [11:25] <Kaya> same again
#1259 [11:25] <Kaya> logged out
#1260 [11:25] <Kaya> logged in
#1261 [11:25] <Kaya> and same problem
#1262 [11:25] <Kaya> bad login
#1263 [11:25] <Griob> i tried redownloading the linux client from the site, didnt work
#1264 [11:26] <Kaya> Connection lost
#1265 [11:26] <Kaya> Failed to login: Bad login
#1266 [11:26] <Kealper> Griob: type java -version into a terminal, then say what version of java is installed
#1267 [11:27] <Kaya> so...
#1268 [11:27] <Kaya> what now...?
#1269 [11:27] <Griob> 1.5.0
#1270 [11:27] <Kaya> i cant play multi player?
#1271 [11:27] <Kealper> Griob: update java, 1.5.0 is ANCIENT
#1272 [11:27] <Kaya> oh
#1273 [11:27] <Kaya> now it says
#1274 [11:27] <Griob> i realize
#1275 [11:27] <Kaya> Connection lost
#1276 [11:27] <Kaya> End of stream
#1277 [11:27] <Griob> i didnt think that was the problem, it worked 2 days ago... huh
#1278 [11:27] <Kealper> Kaya: uhh...try joining mc.kealper.com for a sec
#1279 [11:28] <Griob> any reason that would be, Kealper?
#1280 [11:29] <Kealper> Griob: hmm...no idea, could be something messed up with the game, a reinstall might fix it if the java update does not
#1281 [11:29] <Kaya> i joined
#1282 [11:29] <Kaya> are you referring to
#1283 [11:29] <Kaya> the website?
#1284 [11:29] <Kaya> i went to your website -,-
#1285 [11:29] <Kealper> oh, no....not that garbage thing
#1286 [11:29] <Griob> by reinstall you mean delete the .minecraft folder in my /home directory?
#1287 [11:29] <Kealper> i have not even attempted to finish that lol, put mc.kealper.com into the minecraft address thing for SMP servers
#1288 [11:30] <Kealper> Griob: yeah, have you tried that?
#1289 [11:30] <Griob> i tried that, as well as deleteing the Minecraft.jar (with launcher frame) downloaded from the site. linux version
#1290 [11:30] <Griob> and redownloading that
#1291 [11:30] <Kealper> then update java :/
#1292 [11:30] <Griob> also, its a problem with that file, within LauncherFrame
#1293 [11:30] <Kaya> ok
#1294 [11:30] <Kaya> im in
#1295 [11:30] <Kaya> LOL.
#1296 [11:30] <Kaya> kealper
#1297 [11:30] <Kaya> im in your server
#1298 [11:30] <Kaya> secksy
#1299 [11:30] <Griob> it works fine on the site
#1300 [11:31] <Griob> the inbrowser version
#1301 [11:31] <Kealper> Griob: how are you launching the jar?
#1302 [11:31] <Kaya> dude
#1303 [11:31] <Kaya> im like
#1304 [11:32] <Kaya> stuck here
#1305 [11:32] <Kaya> on the spot
#1306 [11:32] <Kealper> (and you should still update java, no reason to run some 10 year old jvm when you can run the latest :/)
#1307 [11:32] <Kaya> btw is there daytime in multiplayer?
#1308 [11:32] <Kealper> Kaya: lol did it spawn you on a fence?
#1309 [11:32] <Kaya> yes.
#1310 [11:32] <Kealper> yes
#1311 [11:32] <Kaya> and nighttime?
#1312 [11:32] <Kealper> yes
#1313 [11:32] <Kaya> with teh zombehs?
#1314 [11:32] <Kealper> yes
#1315 [11:32] <Kealper> and to get off a fence, try moving around, walking places, and jumping
#1316 [11:32] <Kealper> eventually you'll get off the fence :/
#1317 [11:33] <Griob> Kealper its from 2007, the JVM
#1318 [11:33] <Griob> at least, it says copyright 2007
#1319 [11:33] <Kealper> i think it's stupid that minecraft puts you somewhere by the spawn, instead of right on the spawn
#1320 [11:33] <Kealper> Griob: i was exagerating, but it is quite old
#1321 [11:33] <Griob> and im running it with the java command on the download page.
#1322 [11:34] <Kealper> just for the heck of it, try running the jar without any args
#1323 [11:35] <Griob> ok
#1324 [11:35] <Griob> nope, but different error this time
#1325 [11:35] <Kealper> weird
#1326 [11:35] <Kealper> no idea why it hates the client then :/
#1327 [11:36] <Griob> http://pastebin.com/DGBA39aa
#1328 [11:36] <Griob> new error
#1329 [11:36] <Griob> did apt-get upgrade
#1330 [11:36] <Griob> ive been slacking, havent done it in a while, taking a long time :P
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#1334 [11:38] <Kaya> kealper
#1335 [11:38] <Kaya> howd you make the server do so many cool stuff?
#1336 [11:38] <Griob> modz
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#1338 [11:38] <Kealper> i made my own server wrapper
#1339 [11:38] <Griob> mods*
#1340 [11:39] <Griob> oh
#1341 [11:39] <Griob> nvm
#1342 [11:39] <Griob> !
#1343 [11:39] <Griob> well
#1344 [11:39] <Griob> thats a mod i guess
#1345 [11:39] <Kealper> ish
#1346 [11:39] <Kealper> hooks the stdio, so it modifies no files, works after updates, etc
#1347 [11:39] <Griob> wow its actually updating iwlwifi drivers.
#1348 [11:40] <Griob> that took me a long ass time to install. i hope it doesnt fuck it up.
#1349 [11:40] <Kealper> lol
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#1353 [11:41] <Griob> ok, its on zenmap its almost done
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#1356 [11:49] <Griob> also... how do i tell whether im using the sun jvm versus another. by the version it seems im not /facepalm
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#1358 [11:49] <Griob> DAMN MINECRAFT WHY ARENT YOU IN SOMETHING THAT ISNT JAVA?
#1359 [11:49] <Griob> lol
#1360 [11:49] <Kealper> if it was not in java it would probably be windows-only :/
#1361 [11:50] <Griob> i know
#1362 [11:50] <Griob> lol
#1363 [11:50] <Griob> unless it was in like.. C++/SDL
#1364 [11:51] <jamster> i'm trying to render a server map .. and the program needs level.dat .. should i just login to the server with a client or something to create a level.dat for that? would that even work? hehehe
#1365 [11:51] <Griob> but i digress
#1366 [11:51] <Griob> apparently im using the fricken, GJC
#1367 [11:51] <Griob> gah
#1368 [11:51] <Griob> jvm
#1369 [11:51] <Griob> sun* jvm needs to be installed
#1370 [11:51] <Griob> fuck
#1371 [11:52] <Benwin> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-Supercharged-Marauder-/330528385211?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cf506e8bb
#1372 [11:52] <Benwin> Someone buy that car for me.
#1373 [11:53] <Benwin> and I'll pay you 50% more in june
#1374 [11:54] <jamster> what do you have to put up againt it?
#1375 [11:54] <jamster> i'll do it
#1376 [11:54] <Benwin> I've got a 1.8m settlement pending
#1377 [11:55] <jamster> why can't you take out a loan at a bank?
#1378 [11:55] <jamster> for 6 months
#1379 [11:55] <Benwin> Loans aren't "Tangible"
#1380 [11:55] <Benwin> errr
#1381 [11:55] <Benwin> settlements.
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#1383 [11:56] <jamster> ahh
#1384 [11:56] <Griob> honestly i dont even know HOW java works in my browser
#1385 [11:57] <Griob> i remember installing the sun java, and making symlinks etc using a tutorial
#1386 [11:57] <Benwin> I'm absolutely in love with the Marauder
#1387 [11:57] <Griob> its... strange
#1388 [11:57] <Griob> because io cant find
#1389 [11:57] <Griob> where i installed it
#1390 [11:57] <Benwin> O
#1391 [11:57] <Benwin> err
#1392 [11:57] <Benwin> I'm the most anti-stereotypical gay guy ever.
#1393 [11:58] <Benwin> Oh, jamster
#1394 [11:58] <jamster> Oh, Benwin
#1395 [11:58] <Benwin> I'll put my entertainment center up as at least partial collateral.
#1396 [11:58] <Benwin> http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4236/entertainment.jpg
#1397 [11:59] <Kealper> :o
#1398 [12:00] <Benwin> It's a mess.
#1399 [12:00] <jamster> that is pretty nice and i know you said partial BUT even if it did that would be a pain to try and sell everything off
#1400 [12:00] <Benwin> True.
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#1403 [12:01] <jamster> do you have a house you can put up for the bank
#1404 [12:01] <jamster> hehe
#1405 [12:01] <iBudda> Hey
#1406 [12:01] <iBudda> i need help
#1407 [12:01] <iBudda> if anyone has the time
#1408 [12:01] <iBudda> ??
#1409 [12:02] <Benwin> haha not yet.
#1410 [12:04] <jamster> i dunno i'm deathly afraid of being scammed and would need a contract w/ collateral sorry Benwin :(
#1411 [12:04] <jamster> but i am glad you have all seasons of MWC
#1412 [12:04] <Benwin> rofl
#1413 [12:07] <jamster> i say wait the 6 months and buy a even more beastly car with that 50% savings
#1414 [12:07] <jamster> fo sho
#1415 [12:07] <Benwin> Nah
#1416 [12:07] <Benwin> I'm enamoured with the Marauder.
#1417 [12:08] <jamster> find out who bought it and than over them 50% more than they paid for it
#1418 [12:08] <jamster> and you probably will get it
#1419 [12:08] <jamster> hehehe
#1420 [12:08] <Benwin> haha
#1421 [12:09] <Benwin> they're quick cars
#1422 [12:09] <Benwin> and safe
#1423 [12:10] <Benwin> I used to have a 92 grand marquis (same platform - Panther)
#1424 [12:10] <Benwin> http://i52.tinypic.com/aljm3b.jpg
#1425 [12:10] <Griob> i know why the errors are happening!
#1426 [12:10] <Griob> openoffice (goddamnit)
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#1428 [12:11] <Benwin> that car
#1429 [12:11] <Benwin> was on the receiving end of
#1430 [12:11] <Benwin> http://i54.tinypic.com/21c8ais.jpg
#1431 [12:11] <Benwin> at 72,000lbs
#1432 [12:11] <Benwin> 40mph
#1433 [12:11] <jamster> dang
#1434 [12:11] <jamster> is that what the settlement is for?
#1435 [12:11] <Benwin> look closely at the first picture.
#1436 [12:11] <Benwin> I'm in the picture.
#1437 [12:12] <Benwin> And, yeah. The semi driver ran the red light at the intersection.
#1438 [12:12] <jamster> damn
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#1440 [12:14] <dravenable> somebody here?
#1441 [12:14] <dravenable> that has knowlegde of minecraft java errors??
#1442 [12:14] <Griob> there was someone
#1443 [12:14] <Griob> what is the problem?
#1444 [12:14] <dravenable> i explained in this forum...
#1445 [12:14] <dravenable> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=176068&p=2544453#p2544453
#1446 [12:14] <Griob> perhaps i can be of assistance
#1447 [12:14] <dravenable> i cant stay in server ._.
#1448 [12:15] <dravenable> if i join i can break 1 block and after being in server for 4 seconds or something i cant do anything
#1449 [12:15] <dravenable> while i CAN see people type and jumpe and do things
#1450 [12:15] <dravenable> after a while i get disconnected with error explained in that link
#1451 [12:15] <Griob> one awesome thing you should try
#1452 [12:15] <Griob> is proper grammar and spelling.
#1453 [12:15] <dravenable> ??
#1454 [12:15] <Griob> and not demanding/double posting
#1455 [12:16] <Griob> on a forum post
#1456 [12:16] <Griob> ANYway
#1457 [12:16] <Griob> uninstall the server, reinstall. make a new map file as well
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#1459 [12:16] <Griob> start fresh comepletely
#1460 [12:16] <dravenable> i did...
#1461 [12:16] <dravenable> i removed everything
#1462 [12:16] <Griob> also, delete the .minecraft folder
#1463 [12:16] <dravenable> minecraft, .minecraft, server
#1464 [12:17] <dravenable> re-downloaded and when i started it downloaded stuff to
#1465 [12:17] <dravenable> and still same problem ._.
#1466 [12:17] <Griob> idk. reinstall java? :P
#1467 [12:17] <dravenable> :O
#1468 [12:17] <dravenable> *facepalm*
#1469 [12:17] <dravenable> why couldnt i think of that ._.
#1470 [12:17] <dravenable> ima try it, ill type back if it worked :D
#1471 [12:18] <jamster> how can i make a level.dat for a server level?
#1472 [12:20] <Griob> what is the linux search command?
#1473 [12:20] <jamster> locate
#1474 [12:20] <Griob> i want to search for the jvm i KNOW i have installed, but dont know where
#1475 [12:20] <Griob> ty
#1476 [12:20] <jamster> updatedb and then locate
#1477 [12:20] <Griob> bash: locate: command not found
#1478 [12:20] <Griob> lol
#1479 [12:21] <jamster> j/k then
#1480 [12:21] <jamster> mine is debian based
#1481 [12:21] <jamster> and i also don't know much about linux
#1482 [12:21] <jamster> but that is what i use
#1483 [12:22] <jamster> what distro are you using?
#1484 [12:22] <Griob> debian
#1485 [12:22] <Griob> lol
#1486 [12:22] <jamster> http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-find-files-on-your-computer-with-find
#1487 [12:23] <dravenable> ow omg... i installed new java...
#1488 [12:23] <dravenable> now i got more errors
#1489 [12:23] <dravenable> Bad login
#1490 [12:23] <dravenable> End of stream
#1491 [12:23] <dravenable> Crash
#1492 [12:23] <dravenable> building terain.... atm... waiting... comon... and Minecraft has crashed again
#1493 [12:24] <Griob> OH I GET IT
#1494 [12:24] <dravenable> what u get?
#1495 [12:24] <dravenable> i mean what u know?
#1496 [12:24] <Griob> my browser is using the java within JDK 1.6.0
#1497 [12:25] <dravenable> so?...
#1498 [12:25] <Griob> but that doesnt have a symlink to /bin so i cant use the java command
#1499 [12:25] <Griob> haha!
#1500 [12:27] <Griob> Fuck more problems
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#1506 [12:35] <SmashShock> Hello?
#1507 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> hi
#1508 [12:35] <SmashShock> I need help with something.
#1509 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> define 'something' :)
#1510 [12:36] <exp0> DopeGhoti: any more ideas about MC only working with that C++ version?
#1511 [12:36] <Benwin> SmashShock, you're still contagious even if you aren't having a breakout.
#1512 [12:37] <SmashShock> Well, I installed Mo' Creatures, and whenever I try to run it, I get "java.lang.NullPointerException at cg.a(SourceFile:169) at h.a(SourceFile:1121) at ll.c(SourceFile:410) at ll.b(SourceFile:343) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:668) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)"
#1513 [12:37] <SmashShock> Is there any way I can save my world?
#1514 [12:39] <SmashShock> Hello?
#1515 [12:39] <Kealper> os?
#1516 [12:39] <exp0> single player save and quit
#1517 [12:39] <DopeGhoti> SmashShock: uninstall the mod perhaps?
#1518 [12:40] <arensirb> hey, little OT, does any of you know mysql any good?=
#1519 [12:40] <SmashShock> I did, but I continue getting the same error. I believe I need some sort of tool that will despawn all the current animals on the map.
#1520 [12:40] <arensirb> more specificly-> Is there any problems with me doing a backup of /var/lib/mysql while the server is running?
#1521 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> arensirb: I know my way around SQL a bit.
#1522 [12:40] <arensirb> And not using mysqldump
#1523 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> arensirb: don't do that; use mysqldump
#1524 [12:40] <arensirb> But that gives me a textfile :-/
#1525 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> yes, a textfile that will sanely recreate your DB and data; that's what it's *for*.
#1526 [12:41] <arensirb> ok
#1527 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> copying the /var/lib/ tree will not gaurantee you cogent data.
#1528 [12:41] <arensirb> So there is NO problem using mysql dump, no matter what kind of data is in the database?
#1529 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> arensirb: precisely
#1530 [12:41] <arensirb> Ok, thanks DopeGhoti
#1531 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> cheers
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#1535 [12:59] <Kealper> 117 iron ore, 17 gold ore, and 21 diamonds....this is a good cave
#1536 [12:59] * Kealper goes back to exploring more of this cave
#1536 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> that's not a cave -- that's an adventure!
#1537 [12:59] <Kealper> 118 iron ore now
#1538 [12:59] <Kealper> i know right? lol
#1539 [13:01] <Kealper> i just stopped mining coal after i got two stacks of it....there has got to be atleast 1000 peices of coal in this thing
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#1542 [13:03] <WilliamLee> hi all
#1543 [13:04] <WilliamLee> i was told in the minecraft forum that i can ask for help here ^^ but everyones idle as far as i can see
#1544 [13:06] <iTechman> Hello William
#1545 [13:06] <dravenable> somebody who has knowlegde of minecraft errors??
#1546 [13:06] <WilliamLee> well then autobot: ;) my spanpoint in smp changed, i spawn in the same area every time, but never on the same block ... i cleared the area and build a small pile, for minepedia told me, i will spawn on the highest point of that area, but i dont, just randomly in this area. oh, and my compass points to a block that is at least 2 chunks away
#1547 [13:06] <WilliamLee> hi iTechman
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#1549 [13:07] <WilliamLee> what error dravenable?
#1550 [13:07] <dravenable> well
#1551 [13:07] <dravenable> theres this server i want to join
#1552 [13:07] <dravenable> and it worked for 4 days long
#1553 [13:07] <dravenable> now i join and i can play 3 seconds
#1554 [13:07] <dravenable> then i can do absolutlyy nothing and i get disconnected
#1555 [13:07] <dravenable> i explained it all in this topic
#1556 [13:07] <dravenable> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=176068&p=2544453#p2544453
#1557 [13:07] <WilliamLee> that can have a lot of different reasons
#1558 [13:07] <dravenable> please take a look!! i want to play again ._.
#1559 [13:09] <boxfire> I suppose this may not be the place to ask, but I have emailed a few weeks ago and not gottent a response from the support emails. Here is the short story: Bought minecraft in alpha in november. Grad student, 0 time to play around, until recently. Go to log in, and !!no such user / wrong password!!. Go to ask for password from email system, it doesnt accept my email address... I might have typed that wrong at registration?
#1560 [13:09] <WilliamLee> as far as i could find out in other posts, this mostly happens because of a server overflow
#1561 [13:10] <relsqui> boxfire: did you get an email when you registered?
#1562 [13:10] <dravenable> hmm...
#1563 [13:10] <relsqui> boxfire: that'll have the username/email it expects you to have in it
#1564 [13:10] <boxfire> relsqui: no, I only have the paypal email, so I think the email I typed is wrong
#1565 [13:10] <dravenable> so that means the server of the server i want to join is full or the Global server??
#1566 [13:10] <relsqui> boxfire: not totally certain; minecraft.net is also sketchy. but I dunno if it was back then
#1567 [13:10] <WilliamLee> @dravenable: the server you want to join
#1568 [13:11] <dravenable> lol if thats the case then its strange
#1569 [13:11] <dravenable> cuz
#1570 [13:11] <dravenable> the server crashed today and after that crash we had to delete the whole world map
#1571 [13:11] <dravenable> after that i couldnt play anymore
#1572 [13:12] <WilliamLee> ok, thats weird, indeed
#1573 [13:12] <dravenable> yup ._.
#1574 [13:13] <WilliamLee> sometimes replacing the level.dat with a newly created can save your crashed worlds, just as a tipp for the future
#1575 [13:13] <WilliamLee> but that doesnt solve you connection problem
#1576 [13:13] <dravenable> ok
#1577 [13:13] <dravenable> but the thing that bothers me the most is
#1578 [13:13] <dravenable> that
#1579 [13:13] <dravenable> i searched for builders online at forum
#1580 [13:13] <dravenable> and i found lots
#1581 [13:13] <dravenable> but they joined and i couldnt
#1582 [13:13] <dravenable> now server is like 11/20 people
#1583 [13:14] <dravenable> while when i could play it was only me and ekim070 (my friend xD)
#1584 [13:14] <boxfire> relsqui: is there anyone I can talk to that can change my account's email address, since I am now sure that was typed wrong in the first place? I have all the billing info for the purchase
#1585 [13:15] <relsqui> boxfire: I'm not sure whom you'd want to contact for that, but if you wait around or come back later and ask again someone might be on who knows
#1586 [13:15] <relsqui> the ops in this channel know more than I do :)
#1587 [13:15] <boxfire> well then I can be patient
#1588 [13:15] <dravenable> but non of the admins are there ._.
#1589 [13:16] <boxfire> thanks for some help. At least I know I was supposed to get an email that I never recieved, proving I typed my email wrong
#1590 [13:16] <WilliamLee> @dravenable: according to the version history this bug shuld have been fixed with the latest version ... did you update your sever & client?
#1591 [13:16] <dravenable> hhmmm
#1592 [13:16] <dravenable> i downloaded minecraft from minecraft.net
#1593 [13:16] <dravenable> ofc
#1594 [13:16] <dravenable> and my java was updated just a few minutes afo
#1595 [13:16] <dravenable> ago*
#1596 [13:16] <dravenable> so i think its ok
#1597 [13:17] <WilliamLee> sorry, in that case ive no idea
#1598 [13:17] <dravenable> -sigh-... ok
#1599 [13:17] <dravenable> then i just hope another person can help me out ._.
#1600 [13:17] <dravenable> im always the guy with trouble :@
#1601 [13:17] <dravenable> thanks for your support anyways :]
#1602 [13:18] <WilliamLee> ahh, wait
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#1604 [13:18] <WilliamLee> did you delete your folders before downloading minecraft.exe again?
#1605 [13:18] <dravenable> dont exaclty know...
#1606 [13:18] <dravenable> gonna try agian!
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#1609 [13:19] <dravenable> ok deleted Minecraft.exe and .minecraft
#1610 [13:19] <WilliamLee> be shure to backup your ssp-worlds if you got some ^^
#1611 [13:19] <dravenable> now re-download?
#1612 [13:19] <WilliamLee> no, you have to delete your playerfolders
#1613 [13:19] <dravenable> ??
#1614 [13:20] <dravenable> so theres more then only minecraft.exe and .minecraft?
#1615 [13:20] <WilliamLee> wait a second, i have to check out the translations of the folder names for i am using a german widows version with different folder names
#1616 [13:20] <dravenable> k
#1617 [13:20] <PiousMinion> Does the water flow direction change with redstone no longer work in beta? I keep seeing youtube videos, but the trick doesn't work for me. I just want to make a sand/gravel door fall when hitting a pressure plate.
#1618 [13:21] <WilliamLee> @dravenable: C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\ but remeber, make a backup ^^
#1619 [13:22] <dravenable> ok
#1620 [13:22] <dravenable> after deleting that i must re-download minecraft?
#1621 [13:22] <WilliamLee> @PiousMinion: exactly :)
#1622 [13:23] <WilliamLee> whoops
#1623 [13:23] <WilliamLee> @dravenable
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#1625 [13:23] <dravenable> ok xD
#1626 [13:23] <WilliamLee> sorry, git confused :D
#1627 [13:23] <PiousMinion> hehe, np
#1628 [13:24] <dravenable> ok im gonna start minecraft and try to look if it worked ._.
#1629 [13:24] <WilliamLee> @PiousMinion: i was just looking for a video explaining water/lavacontrol without redstone, that how that line got there ;)
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#1632 [13:25] <PiousMinion> WilliamLee: I've been looking and not finding. :/
#1633 [13:26] <dravenable> william now i get an error that doesnt even fit in my screen O_o
#1634 [13:26] <WilliamLee> @dravenable: thats weird because now it should be just like after downloading minecraft for the first time
#1635 [13:29] <WilliamLee> @PinousMinio: sorry, i cant find the video, but the point was that water and lava flow towards the nearest whole/lower level, but i am not shure if that in still the case since beta
#1636 [13:29] <boxfire> another question: If you send an email for a forgotton password, does it reset your password?
#1637 [13:30] <WilliamLee> no idea boxfire
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#1641 [13:31] <Bela> http://bux4ad.com/_2ba3a196.htm
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#1643 [13:31] <WilliamLee> @dravenable: what exactly did you do?
#1644 [13:32] <dravenable> back
#1645 [13:32] <dravenable> and again problem...
#1646 [13:32] <dravenable> now i has
#1647 [13:32] <dravenable> internal exception: java.net.cockettimeoutexception: read timed out
#1648 [13:32] <dravenable> ..........
#1649 [13:32] <dravenable> what i did to do what?
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#1651 [13:33] <WilliamLee> after my instructions
#1652 [13:33] <PiousMinion> WilliamLee: yeah, several videos showed it flowing one way, but the second I remove the other block, it redirects without power. :/
#1653 [13:33] <dravenable> alright got new error
#1654 [13:33] <WilliamLee> i dont think the redstone control works anmore, afaik
#1655 [13:33] <MertenNor> can I made a delay port in redstore ?
#1656 [13:33] <dravenable> internal exception: java.net.socket.excaption: connection reset by peer: socket write error
#1657 [13:34] <PiousMinion> hoping doors or something can be used. idk
#1658 [13:34] <WilliamLee> @dravenable: wait a second
#1659 [13:36] <WilliamLee> @dravenable: so you deleted minecraft.exe and the playerfolders?
#1660 [13:36] <dravenable> yes
#1661 [13:36] <dravenable> but im looking on google now
#1662 [13:36] <dravenable> and somebody posted an explanation
#1663 [13:36] <dravenable> and p[eople said it worked :o
#1664 [13:36] <dravenable> so im trying it
#1665 [13:36] <dravenable> be right backj for 1 minute at least
#1666 [13:36] <WilliamLee> ok, good luck
#1667 [13:40] <OmbreNoir> Hi, I have a centos i386 (so 32bits) but I have 6core and 16go of ram.. but my java is 32bits (because the os is 32bits) so when I try to start with java -Xms4096M -Xmx4096M.... say me a problem with swap mem...
#1668 [13:40] <OmbreNoir> Do you have an idea what I can make (with no re-install os :P)
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#1670 [13:41] <WilliamLee> no idea, sorry
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#1672 [13:44] <OmbreNoir> and why my java accept just 2go... 32bits is not 4go..
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#1675 [13:48] <Lampshade> Hello guys
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#1677 [13:58] <TheDivinity> anynoe here
#1678 [13:58] <TheDivinity> anyone*
#1679 [13:59] <Elvang> Yea
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#1681 [13:59] <ztkpeppard> ,
#1682 [13:59] <TheDivinity> when i try to open minecraft to go to single player it doesnt load
#1683 [14:00] <ztkpeppard> can anyone help me i need to change my minecraft accounts associated email
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#1686 [14:00] <TheDivinity> when i try to open minecraft to go to single player it doesnt load it just gives me a black window help???
#1687 [14:00] <Jetamo> 'ey, can I be forwared to a channel where I can ask about Minecraft mods?
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#1689 [14:03] <Elvang> Try #risucraft Jetamo
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#1694 [14:06] <Steban> hi
#1695 [14:07] <Steban> i search a tutorial for map viewer my server online ?
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#1697 [14:10] <Steban> can you help me for find a good mapviewer for my server with google map pleaseee
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#1704 [14:35] <nevercast> Morning
#1705 [14:36] <nevercast> I have a question #minecrafthelp
#1706 [14:36] <nevercast> Is there any texture editors programs out there for minecraft?
#1707 [14:36] <nevercast> Allowing merging textures together and easy editing?
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#1709 [14:43] <Shadow386> paint.net is what i use
#1710 [14:43] <Shadow386> copy and paste if needed. no programs I know of
#1711 [14:43] <EmpiresBane> for?
#1712 [14:44] <Shadow386> someone asked for texture editor programs for easy editing and merging
#1713 [14:44] <nevercast> EmpiresBane: Minecraft.
#1714 [14:44] <Shadow386> obviously minecraft since this is a minecraft channel
#1715 [14:44] <nevercast> Shadow386: I've been using Gimp but I was wondering if there was an explicit one for Minecraft.
#1716 [14:44] <Shadow386> nope
#1717 [14:44] <Shadow386> well, not that i know of anyways
#1718 [14:45] <nevercast> Do you think it would be popular if there was?
#1719 [14:45] <Shadow386> for the super newbies yeah
#1720 [14:45] <EmpiresBane> if it were done right, yes
#1721 [14:45] <Shadow386> everyone I know of uses paint.net
#1722 [14:45] <Shadow386> EmpiresBane like tabs for each individual png?
#1723 [14:45] <EmpiresBane> it would have to include transparency
#1724 [14:45] <Shadow386> I would use that
#1725 [14:45] <EmpiresBane> something the skin editor didn't have, before
#1726 [14:46] <EmpiresBane> i think, tabs for each PNG would be good
#1727 [14:46] <EmpiresBane> or you can veiw the whole thing
#1728 [14:46] <EmpiresBane> and click on a button for a specific block type to be highlighted
#1729 [14:47] <nevercast> Yeah I'm thinking about making the program have a schematic file that specifies the bounds and titles of sprites inside the texture file.
#1730 [14:48] <nevercast> Then each image is displayed seperately
#1731 [14:48] <EmpiresBane> if it were really cool, you could also view it on a block
#1732 [14:48] <nevercast> Hmmm..
#1733 [14:48] <nevercast> How would I do that...
#1734 [14:48] <nevercast> Would have to add 3D into the application
#1735 [14:48] <EmpiresBane> and have a tiled view to see it
#1736 [14:48] <EmpiresBane> yeah
#1737 [14:49] <nevercast> Right I'm going for C# here but I want to maintain Mono support
#1738 [14:49] <nevercast> So it'll have to be OpenGL
#1739 [14:49] <Shadow386> I wish skins were still transparent
#1740 [14:49] <nevercast> Probably use the Mono Tao.GL library
#1741 [14:49] <nevercast> Shadow386: Skins don't support transparentcy?
#1742 [14:49] <Shadow386> make one in java and the other in C#
#1743 [14:49] <Shadow386> not for players
#1744 [14:49] <Shadow386> unless its the hat
#1745 [14:49] <nevercast> Shadow386: I hate Java. It's a Sin.
#1746 [14:49] <Shadow386> :P
#1747 [14:50] <nevercast> :P
#1748 [14:50] <Shadow386> well I only have mc on my windows, so its fine with me
#1749 [14:50] <EmpiresBane> if he made it in Java first, why make it in C# too?
#1750 [14:50] <Shadow386> java for linux and mac users
#1751 [14:50] <nevercast> EmpiresBane: Wrong. I'd make it in C# first.. Then make it work in Linux. I'd not write it in Java at all
#1752 [14:50] <nevercast> Shadow386: C# works in Linux and Mac if written without Windows Explicit Libraries
#1753 [14:50] <Shadow386> if you appeal to the windows userbase first, youll get more with it
#1754 [14:50] <nevercast> that's true
#1755 [14:51] <nevercast> Although I'm a linux user
#1756 [14:51] <Shadow386> which makes my point, windows first :P
#1757 [14:51] <nevercast> I want to be able to run my own program
#1758 [14:51] <Shadow386> I use windows for normal stuff, and linux for everything else
#1759 [14:51] <Shadow386> i would use a mac for graphics, but I wouldnt be caught dead with one
#1760 [14:51] <Shadow386> well whatever you do, good luck :D
#1761 [14:51] <EmpiresBane> I have linux in my room, but i'm thinking of changing it back to XP
#1762 [14:51] <Shadow386> i wouldnt mind being a tester
#1763 [14:51] <nevercast> Haha I like your mentallity Shadow386
#1764 [14:51] <EmpiresBane> the hardware was chosen for XP
#1765 [14:51] <EmpiresBane> so XP runs the fastest, so far
#1766 [14:52] <Shadow386> I have 7 on this desktop which was originally designed for vista, but its running smooth as silk
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#1768 [14:52] <Shadow386> Im installing ubuntu on a system that was made for...prob XP
#1769 [14:52] <nevercast> Haha
#1770 [14:52] <Shadow386> but it was an old pc from 2002, but it was super powered back then
#1771 [14:52] <oxE1> in some case win7 is close to xp in requirements, if aero is off
#1772 [14:52] <nevercast> yeah I run Ubuntu 10.04LTS on my Laptop
#1773 [14:52] <nevercast> Windows 7 in virtual box when I need Visual Studio
#1774 [14:52] <nevercast> Windows XP on my gaming Pc because with only a gig of ram I need all the resources I can get
#1775 [14:52] <Shadow386> installing 10.10 now on the second desktop
#1776 [14:53] <EmpiresBane> & would not be able to run on this
#1777 [14:53] <nevercast> Shadow386: Don't
#1778 [14:53] <nevercast> Shadow386: I've heard it's not as nice as 10.04
#1779 [14:53] <Shadow386> Im mainly using it for testing personal webserver features
#1780 [14:53] <nevercast> Shadow386: Apparently in 11.04 they are planning on using Gnome3 too.. People have hated it so far.
#1781 [14:53] <Shadow386> Gnome3?
#1782 [14:54] <Shadow386> what happened to 2?
#1783 [14:54] <nevercast> Shadow386: Gnome is the interface that Ubuntu uses. Just like Kubuntu and Fedora use KDE
#1784 [14:54] <EmpiresBane> brb
#1785 [14:54] <Shadow386> i know :P i was just wondering what happened to gnome2
#1786 [14:54] <nevercast> Gnome2 exists in Ubuntu up to either 10.04 or 10.10
#1787 [14:54] <Shadow386> hm
#1788 [14:54] <nevercast> But they are going to Gnome3 in the later ubuntu releases.. and people hate it
#1789 [14:54] <Shadow386> well im just installing 10.10 for now just to test stuff
#1790 [14:54] <Shadow386> if anything Im more used to CentOS
#1791 [14:55] <nevercast> CentOS is ncie
#1792 [14:55] <nevercast> *nice
#1793 [14:55] <nevercast> I use it but only for servers
#1794 [14:55] <Shadow386> ive used it for all my minecraft and webhosting
#1795 [14:55] <nevercast> it's nice isn't it
#1796 [14:55] <nevercast> I use CentOS when I don't want an interface or a nice application center
#1797 [14:55] <Shadow386> its helpful if you're new to linux
#1798 [14:55] <nevercast> really?
#1799 [14:55] <nevercast> I always thought Ubuntu was the Linux for the nub
#1800 [14:55] <Shadow386> Perhaps I should just get centos on this desktop...
#1801 [14:56] <nevercast> ( I'd say I'm no longer a linux novice but I still use it )
#1802 [14:56] <Shadow386> nah centos has more guides on the web and is more user friendly for the server webhost
#1803 [14:56] <nevercast> ahh yeah
#1804 [14:56] <nevercast> See like I said I had CentOS on my VPS
#1805 [14:56] <Shadow386> Im on the borderline of novice to the intermediate level
#1806 [14:56] <nevercast> but Ubuntu at home
#1807 [14:56] <Shadow386> CentOS 64bit dedicated
#1808 [14:56] <nevercast> Shadow386: You've been using Linux for awhile but still hit the forums on occasion ?
#1809 [14:56] <nevercast> Shadow386: You own a Dedi? Nice :)
#1810 [14:56] <nevercast> Shadow386: Specs?
#1811 [14:57] <nevercast> Shadow386: Actually don't answer yet
#1812 [14:57] <Shadow386> 8gigs Ram, quad core (forgot the specs of that), 1GBport 5TB
#1813 [14:57] <nevercast> I'm going to go sign in on my laptop
#1814 [14:57] <Shadow386> >.>
#1815 [14:57] <nevercast> instead of Mibbit
#1816 [14:57] <nevercast> Wait what
#1817 [14:57] <nevercast> 1000MBit connection/
#1818 [14:57] <Shadow386> bw*
#1819 [14:57] <nevercast> ?
#1820 [14:57] <Shadow386> yeah
#1821 [14:57] <nevercast> To the net?
#1822 [14:57] <nevercast> HOLY FUCK
#1823 [14:58] <Shadow386> 1GBit connection at 5TB bandwidth
#1824 [14:58] <nevercast> Wow
#1825 [14:58] <nevercast> how much a month is this costing you?
#1826 [14:58] <nevercast> Because I want one
#1827 [14:58] <Shadow386> $80 with a coupon
#1828 [14:58] <nevercast> hmmmm.
#1829 [14:58] <Shadow386> coupon expired but it was lifetime with me
#1830 [14:58] <nevercast> ahh true
#1831 [14:58] <nevercast> lucky
#1832 [14:58] <nevercast> Right
#1833 [14:58] <nevercast> signing into XChat in Ubuntu
#1834 [14:58] <nevercast> brb
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#1837 [14:59] <Shadow386> No, wait
#1838 [15:00] <Shadow386> i was off on the ports lol
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#1840 [15:01] <Kealper> androids are murderers!
#1841 [15:01] <Shadow386> I was wrong, it's 5000GB/Month Standard - 100MBPS Port but I can upgrade to 1GBPS for $20 more
#1842 [15:02] <nevercast> Kealper, To whom?
#1843 [15:02] <Kealper> Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by androidd))
#1844 [15:02] <nevercast> LOL
#1845 [15:02] <nevercast> Yeah.
#1846 [15:02] <frikinfrog> Hi guys/girls, I have a question that is not necessarily minecraft related BUT something that I'm trying to do to set up a minecraft server at home. In my appartment block there is a connection with one ip split with everyone who subscribe to internet with the appartments owner. So I'm behind 2 routers (mine and the one set up to split internet between people who lives here). Is there
#1847 [15:02] <frikinfrog> any way to set up a server even though I don't have access to their router?
#1848 [15:02] <Kealper> probably not :/
#1849 [15:03] <nevercast> frikinfrog, Hamachi?
#1850 [15:03] <nevercast> frikinfrog, But not any easy way no
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#1853 [15:03] <nevercast> frikinfrog, Other options are VPS?
#1854 [15:03] <mib_skoxbz> Guys i seem to have a problem
#1855 [15:03] <frikinfrog> ok that's what I thought, what's hamachi?
#1856 [15:03] <Shadow386> vps can be quite cheap
#1857 [15:03] <Shadow386> mib_skoxbz what?
#1858 [15:03] <nevercast> frikinfrog, It's a VPN
#1859 [15:03] <frikinfrog> ok
#1860 [15:03] <EmpiresBane> either you a network tunneler, or ask your network administrator what ports are open
#1861 [15:03] <mib_skoxbz> i download minecraft it says i aint a member so i clicked play offline
#1862 [15:03] <nevercast> frikinfrog, Look up... GoToMyPC Hamachi
#1863 [15:04] <Shadow386> did you pay for it?
#1864 [15:04] <mib_skoxbz> it days done loading, with a loading box which wont go away
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#1866 [15:04] <Kealper> mib_skoxbz: did you buy the game?
#1867 [15:04] <mib_skoxbz> i waited 2 hours
#1868 [15:04] <frikinfrog> ok thanks I'll check this out right away :)
#1869 [15:04] <mib_skoxbz> no, but i did the same thing on my wifes pc
#1870 [15:04] <nevercast> frikinfrog, awesome. let us know
#1871 [15:04] <mib_skoxbz> play offline
#1872 [15:04] <mib_skoxbz> it works
#1873 [15:04] <Shadow386> did she pay for it?
#1874 [15:04] <mib_skoxbz> no
#1875 [15:04] <Shadow386> pirated copy?
#1876 [15:04] <mib_skoxbz> nope
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#1878 [15:04] <mib_skoxbz> its the one from the download page
#1879 [15:05] <nevercast> Shadow386, Obviously he's just trying to play single player.
#1880 [15:05] <mib_skoxbz> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe?v=1297540741801
#1881 [15:05] <mib_skoxbz> that one
#1882 [15:05] <nevercast> mib_skoxbz, Wait I thought you couldn't get to the download page unless you're a paid member
#1883 [15:05] <Shadow386> you cant play survival with a non-premium account anyways
#1884 [15:05] <EmpiresBane> which means that one of you had to have bough it
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#1886 [15:05] <Kealper> no, you can download it just fine without logging in
#1887 [15:05] <Shadow386> or pirated it
#1888 [15:05] <mib_skoxbz> well on m wifes pc i downloaded http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe?v=1297540741801 and logged in to her account
#1889 [15:05] <mib_skoxbz> works
#1890 [15:05] <mib_skoxbz> but not on mine
#1891 [15:05] <Shadow386> then she bought it
#1892 [15:05] <mib_skoxbz> she didnt
#1893 [15:05] <Kealper> but that is just a launcher, the launcher will not download the game files unless you log in with a valid account though
#1894 [15:05] <EmpiresBane> have you asked her?
#1895 [15:05] <mib_skoxbz> yes
#1896 [15:06] <mib_skoxbz> shes like no
#1897 [15:06] <Shadow386> then it shouldnt be logging in.
#1898 [15:06] <mib_skoxbz> o.o
#1899 [15:06] <nevercast> EmpiresBane, I think he'd know if she bought it
#1900 [15:06] <mib_skoxbz> shes by me
#1901 [15:06] <nevercast> Shadow386, He's not logging inb
#1902 [15:06] <nevercast> *in
#1903 [15:06] <mib_skoxbz> well shes playing
#1904 [15:06] <nevercast> He's playing OFFLINE
#1905 [15:06] <Shadow386> what is your wife's username?
#1906 [15:06] <nevercast> means no log in
#1907 [15:06] <mib_skoxbz> offline mode
#1908 [15:06] <Shadow386> nevercast his wifes account I meant
#1909 [15:06] <nevercast> Shadow386, Also playing offline
#1910 [15:06] <mib_skoxbz> ashree
#1911 [15:06] <nevercast> Shadow386, They are both playing offline
#1912 [15:06] <Shadow386> !paid ashree
#1913 [15:06] <Kealper> :/
#1914 [15:06] <mib_skoxbz> see
#1915 [15:06] <nevercast> See
#1916 [15:06] <nevercast> lol.
#1917 [15:06] <mib_skoxbz> o.o
#1918 [15:06] <nevercast> mib_skoxbz, Right so what's your error?
#1919 [15:07] <Shadow386> it shouldnt be possible then for her to log in unless someone pirated Minecraft, or played with a paid account on her computer
#1920 [15:07] <EmpiresBane> you have to login once to play offline
#1921 [15:07] <mib_skoxbz> its
#1922 [15:07] <mib_skoxbz> when i dwonloaded it came up with
#1923 [15:07] <mib_skoxbz> login
#1924 [15:07] <mib_skoxbz> so i did
#1925 [15:07] <mib_skoxbz> then it says not a memmber
#1926 [15:07] <mib_skoxbz> play iffline
#1927 [15:07] <mib_skoxbz> offline*
#1928 [15:07] <mib_skoxbz> so i clicked that
#1929 [15:07] <nevercast> EmpiresBane, Sounds like the download he got isn't just the launcher
#1930 [15:07] <mib_skoxbz> it gets stuck at
#1931 [15:07] <mib_skoxbz> "updating minecraft"
#1932 [15:07] <nevercast> Oh
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#1934 [15:07] <nevercast> Yeah it will do that
#1935 [15:07] <nevercast> You gotta be a member to update
#1936 [15:07] <Kealper> mib_skoxbz: you have to actually buy the game for it to work
#1937 [15:07] <mib_skoxbz> how do i stop updating?
#1938 [15:08] <nevercast> You can't
#1939 [15:08] <mib_skoxbz> oh
#1940 [15:08] <nevercast> There isn't any game files at all the first time
#1941 [15:08] <nevercast> The first update is actually a game download
#1942 [15:08] <mib_skoxbz> so how come she can play
#1943 [15:08] <mib_skoxbz> :O
#1944 [15:08] <Kealper> mib_skoxbz: you just downloaded the launcher, not the game
#1945 [15:08] <mib_skoxbz> oh right
#1946 [15:08] <Kealper> because she probably stole it
#1947 [15:08] <nevercast> ^ LOL
#1948 [15:08] <Kealper> if she does not have an acount
#1949 [15:08] <mib_skoxbz> rofl
#1950 [15:08] <mib_skoxbz> XD
#1951 [15:08] <Shadow386> pirated, stole, or something similar
#1952 [15:08] <mib_skoxbz> well ok thanks
#1953 [15:08] <Shadow386> or someone did on that computer
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#1955 [15:08] <nevercast> OR someone else played with a valid account on that computer
#1956 [15:08] <mib_skoxbz> well my bro had it alst
#1957 [15:08] <nevercast> hence downloading the game files
#1958 [15:08] <mib_skoxbz> and it was there
#1959 [15:09] <Shadow386> then that's why
#1960 [15:09] <mib_skoxbz> lol ok
#1961 [15:09] <mib_skoxbz> thanks
#1962 [15:09] <boxfire> !paid boxfire
#1963 [15:09] <Shadow386> if your bro has a valid account, or hack on her computer, that's why
#1964 [15:09] <mib_skoxbz> :)
#1965 [15:09] <nevercast> Your bro either pirated it or owns it
#1966 [15:09] <nevercast> when he played the game files were downloaded
#1967 [15:09] <mib_skoxbz> oh right
#1968 [15:09] <Shadow386> !paid shadow386
#1969 [15:09] <Shadow386> <3
#1970 [15:09] <nevercast> !paid nevercast
#1971 [15:09] <mib_skoxbz> ah kk ty
#1972 [15:09] <Kealper> !disable
#1973 [15:09] <nevercast> -.-"
#1974 [15:09] <boxfire> I did pay :(
#1975 [15:09] <Shadow386> boxfire did you use any caps?
#1976 [15:10] <nevercast> Ya know.. Mib is going to go pirate the game now? lol.
#1977 [15:10] <Shadow386> like, Boxfire or BoxFire?
#1978 [15:10] <boxfire> Possibly Boxfire
#1979 [15:10] <Kealper> !enable
#1980 [15:10] <nevercast> !paid NeverCast
#1981 [15:10] <Shadow386> nevercast he cant play online though :P
#1982 [15:10] <nevercast> woot
#1983 [15:10] <boxfire> !paid Boxfire
#1984 [15:10] <Kealper> caps don't matter in username, only password
#1985 [15:10] <nevercast> Shadow386, He can stick with Single player lol.
#1986 [15:10] <nevercast> Shadow386, wait yes he can
#1987 [15:10] <Kealper> boxfire: how long ago did you buy it?
#1988 [15:10] <nevercast> Shadow386, If he plays offline and the server is set for offline
#1989 [15:10] <boxfire> november
#1990 [15:10] <nevercast> Shadow386, a pirated player can play in multi
#1991 [15:10] <Kealper> O.o
#1992 [15:10] <Shadow386> that's the other thing :P
#1993 [15:10] <Kealper> boxfire: can you log in on the website?
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#1995 [15:11] <boxfire> Kealper: maybe you can help me... I typed the wrong email address in my account, and now I cant get to my account
#1996 [15:11] <boxfire> I have my paypal ticket id
#1997 [15:11] <nevercast> boxfire, So then your account isn't confirmed
#1998 [15:11] <Shadow386> we cant do anything
#1999 [15:11] <nevercast> I think you had to confirm
#2000 [15:11] <Kealper> oh you really borked that one...
#2001 [15:11] * nevercast cannot recall
#2001 [15:11] <nevercast> Who at Mojang takes care of payment issues?
#2002 [15:11] <EmpiresBane> e-mail Mojang with you paypal id and e-mail
#2003 [15:12] <boxfire> I did, no response in 2 weeks
#2004 [15:12] <Shadow386> isnt it... Jeb?
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#2006 [15:12] <Kealper> boxfire: send and email to daniel@mojang.com saying what happened and show proof that you bought it, and give you username
#2007 [15:12] <nevercast> think Jeb is correct
#2008 [15:12] <Shadow386> ah it was daniel
#2009 [15:12] <Shadow386> now I remember
#2010 [15:12] <nevercast> lol
#2011 [15:12] <boxfire> thanks for a more direct email
#2012 [15:12] <Kealper> Kaplan checks his email the most
#2013 [15:12] * Frag|Nick [Frag|Nick@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2014 [15:12] <Shadow386> notch doesnt read his emails that often unless its super official buzinuss
#2015 [15:13] <Kealper> i don't blame him....he's actually got a gmail account that is almost full...of just text email
#2016 [15:13] <Shadow386> brb making some delicious fatty foods
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#2018 [15:13] <EmpiresBane> shouldn't he e-mail payment.mojang?
#2019 [15:13] <Kealper> no
#2020 [15:13] <EmpiresBane> ok
#2021 [15:13] <Kealper> that hasn't been checked in ages
#2022 [15:13] <EmpiresBane> ah, they really need to fix that
#2023 [15:13] <Shadow386> yep
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#2025 [15:13] <Shadow386> ill do it >:3
#2026 [15:13] <Kealper> they said something about them hiring a full-time email checker lol
#2027 [15:13] <EmpiresBane> in fact, it would be nice if someone from mojang would come in here sometimes
#2028 [15:14] <Kealper> one does
#2029 [15:14] <Shadow386> I seriously would not mind checking emails xD
#2030 [15:14] <Kealper> mollstam is in here right now
#2031 [15:14] <Kealper> probably afk since it's saturday, but he is here lol
#2032 [15:14] <Shadow386> Jeb comes in here sometimes too
#2033 [15:14] <Shadow386> but Notch only does when there's a major update
#2034 [15:14] <Shadow386> well, used to
#2035 [15:15] <Shadow386> er, in #minecraft anyways
#2036 [15:15] <Kealper> he's forgotten about us :<
#2037 [15:15] <Shadow386> T_T
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#2039 [15:16] <Shadow386> So ive started messing with chrome extensions
#2040 [15:16] <Shadow386> and i wanna make something for Minecraft, but I got nothin
#2041 [15:16] <Kealper> lol
#2042 [15:17] <Shadow386> what would be something everyone could use?
#2043 [15:18] <Kealper> iono
#2044 [15:18] <Kealper> rawr....trying to think how i could emulate windows aero glass effects in GDI+ makes my brain hurt
#2045 [15:19] <frikinfrog> concerning VPN and hamachi: once installed I cannot connect to it since well it's my computer, so once installed what do I need to do?
#2046 [15:22] <frikinfrog> I would need to install hamachi on every computer that wants to connect??
#2047 [15:22] * Wahrheit [Wahrheit@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2048 [15:22] <Kealper> yes
#2049 [15:22] <Wahrheit> Kealper: how do upload skin
#2050 [15:22] * PiousMinion [PiousMinion@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#2051 [15:22] <Wahrheit> Kealper: Upload doesn't do shiiiiiiiiz
#2052 [15:22] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/skin/ ?
#2053 [15:23] <frikinfrog> oh... Guess we'll stick to renting a server, thanks guys :) have a good day!
#2054 [15:23] <Wahrheit> >doesn't work
#2055 [15:23] <Kealper> guess you can't atm then
#2056 [15:23] <Wahrheit> But other people have em
#2057 [15:23] <Wahrheit> :/
#2058 [15:24] * Don_Parpan [Don_Parpan@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2059 [15:24] <Don_Parpan> hi
#2060 [15:25] <Shadow386> Wahrheit how does it not work?
#2061 [15:25] <Don_Parpan> it dosn't work by me to...
#2062 [15:25] <Shadow386> Don_Parpan what are you even talking about/
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#2064 [15:28] <Wahrheit> Shadow: Choose file, click upload, no dice.
#2065 [15:29] <Wahrheit> http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=Wahrheit
#2066 [15:29] <Shadow386> that's very descriptive...
#2067 [15:29] <Wahrheit> Or maybe Chrome just can't see it
#2068 [15:29] <Wahrheit> how very odd
#2069 [15:30] <Shadow386> no
#2070 [15:30] <Shadow386> the skin feature on the site is a little wonky
#2071 [15:30] <Shadow386> it should show up in-game though
#2072 [15:30] <Shadow386> http://minecraft.net/skin/Wahrheit.png
#2073 [15:30] <Shadow386> downloads your current skin
#2074 [15:33] <Wahrheit> :D
#2075 [15:33] <Wahrheit> okay, thanks
#2076 [15:33] <Wahrheit> I was kinda freaking out
#2077 [15:33] * mypasswordis12345 [mypasswordis12345@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
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#2079 [15:34] <mypasswordis12345> !paid mypasswordis12345
#2080 [15:34] <mypasswordis12345> nooooo
#2081 [15:34] <Shadow386> lol
#2082 [15:34] <Voki> ^^
#2083 [15:34] <Voki> lol
#2084 [15:35] <Shadow386> this is delicious
#2085 [15:35] <Shadow386> my gid
#2086 [15:35] <Shadow386> god*
#2087 [15:36] <mypasswordis12345> !paid MCHelpBot
#2088 [15:36] <mypasswordis12345> bastard
#2089 [15:37] <Kealper> don't spam the commands on AuBot
#2090 [15:37] <Shadow386> I can on my channels >;3
#2091 [15:37] <Shadow386> but i know better
#2092 [15:37] <mypasswordis12345> :(
#2093 [15:37] <Kealper> it doesn't hurt the bot to do that....it's just against this channel's rules :/
#2094 [15:38] * Tonux [Tonux@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2095 [15:38] <Shadow386> well still :P
#2096 [15:40] <GV> Still, please don't
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#2098 [15:42] * dralien [dralien@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2099 [15:43] <dralien> Hi, just wondering if anyone knows why the skins are having problems.
#2100 [15:43] <dralien> for example, Failed to save skin: org.jets3t.service.S3ServiceException: Request Error. PUT '/MinecraftSkins/OliPicard.png' on Host 's3.amazonaws.com' @ 'Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:40:37 GMT' -- ResponseCode: 400, ResponseStatus: Bad Request
#2101 [15:43] <Kealper> Minecraft.net has bee having skin issues lately :/
#2102 [15:44] * BarryCarlyon [BarryCarlyon@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2103 [15:44] <dralien> Ok, does anyone know when its being fixed? :D
#2104 [15:44] <Kealper> no idea :/
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#2107 [15:46] <aetherian> o.o
#2108 [15:46] * nevercast [nevercast@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2109 [15:47] * aetherian woke up with blood stains on his pillow
#2109 [15:47] <Kealper> O.o
#2110 [15:47] <Kealper> nosebleed durring the night? lol
#2111 [15:47] <aetherian> probably bloody nose
#2112 [15:47] <aetherian> yeah
#2113 [15:49] <nevercast> My sister woke up face covered in blood
#2114 [15:49] <nevercast> no nose bleed
#2115 [15:49] <nevercast> no scratches
#2116 [15:49] <nevercast> We wonder if she murdered someone and then came home.. remembers nothing of it
#2117 [15:50] <nevercast> Right.. Programming time
#2118 [15:50] <aetherian> out damn spot
#2119 [15:50] <aetherian> out I say
#2120 [15:51] <nevercast> lolwat aetherian ?
#2121 [15:51] <aetherian> a (probably bad) quoting of macbeth
#2122 [15:51] <aetherian> but it gets the point across
#2123 [15:52] <nevercast> Haha.
#2124 [15:52] <nevercast> Right I'm going to finish my NBT Editor
#2125 [15:52] <nevercast> Then it's onto my Texture Pack Editor
#2126 [15:52] <nevercast> Then I'm going to get you lot to test it :P
#2127 [15:52] <Kealper> oh joy.....lol
#2128 [15:52] <nevercast> :P
#2129 [15:52] <aetherian> ooh, if the texture pack editor works, I may.
#2130 [15:52] * adien [adien@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#2131 [15:52] <nevercast> Well that's why I'm making one
#2132 [15:53] <nevercast> Because I need one and it doesn't exist yet
#2133 [15:53] <nevercast> I'm thinking about making a blog
#2134 [15:53] <nevercast> and people can list editors they wish to have for MC
#2135 [15:54] <aetherian> what's going to be, mceditors.(blogsite of choice).com?
#2136 [15:54] <aetherian> I mean, sounds kinda clunky
#2137 [15:54] <nevercast> fuck no
#2138 [15:54] <nevercast> I'll have my own domain :P
#2139 [15:54] <nevercast> nevercast.com
#2140 [15:54] <nevercast> can someone check if that domain is in use?
#2141 [15:54] <aetherian> oh wow
#2142 [15:54] <aetherian> my nose still has blood in it
#2143 [15:54] <aetherian> brb
#2144 [15:57] <nevercast> lol
#2145 [15:59] <Shadow386> where are you going to register it?
#2146 [16:00] <Shadow386> cause nevercast.com is being sold for over $3000. you're better off getting .net
#2147 [16:00] <nevercast> Damn it
#2148 [16:00] <nevercast> nevercast.net it is
#2149 [16:00] <nevercast> What's the price on that, Shadow386 ?
#2150 [16:00] <Shadow386> depends on where you go to buy it
#2151 [16:01] <Shadow386> I register my stuff on limedomains.com
#2152 [16:01] <Shadow386> :3
#2153 [16:01] <nevercast> Fuck.. My Windows 7 did an AutoUpdate
#2154 [16:01] <aetherian> back
#2155 [16:01] <nevercast> I don't think I disabled that little update that FUCKS UP PIRATED VERSIONS... *sigh*
#2156 [16:02] <nevercast> Shadow386, Well.. How much is it at limedomains? lol.
#2157 [16:02] <nevercast> Shadow386, Cheaper than GoDaddy?
#2158 [16:02] <Shadow386> uh usually $8.99. there are coupons for like a buck or two cheaper
#2159 [16:02] <Shadow386> and they give free email, so hell yeah
#2160 [16:03] <lukegb> nevercast: hooray for BIOS OEM haxx? :P
#2161 [16:03] <Wahrheit> nevercast: you could just buy it
#2162 [16:03] <Shadow386> Wahrheit I have never bought it in my life :3
#2163 [16:03] <nevercast> KB971033 : "This update to Windows Activation Technologies detects activation exploits and tampering to key windows files" : Status!Disabled
#2164 [16:04] * Kealper coughs and points at the channel rules
#2164 [16:04] <nevercast> Eugh..
#2165 [16:04] * nevercast maximizes window to see entire topic
#2165 [16:04] <Shadow386> So Kealper how is your minecraft building?
#2166 [16:04] <Kealper> wut
#2167 [16:04] <Shadow386> just type /topic #minecraft
#2168 [16:04] <nevercast> http://mchelp.darksigns.net/rules.html
#2169 [16:04] * aetherian gives kealper a cough drop
#2169 [16:04] <nevercast> Damn it I gotta open a browser.
#2170 [16:05] <Shadow386> time to pray exbawks
#2171 [16:05] <nevercast> Rule 1. Do not talk about anything which is illegal in the United States of America or would violate the Terms of Use of any software or service
#2172 [16:05] <nevercast> LOL
#2173 [16:05] <nevercast> My bad?
#2174 [16:05] <aetherian> and the general policy too
#2175 [16:05] <aetherian> about only talking about mchelp or idling
#2176 [16:06] <aetherian> and the other one
#2177 [16:06] * aetherian definitely doesn't abuse aubot
#2177 [16:06] <aetherian> ;)
#2178 [16:06] <Kealper> that reminds me...i gotta finish that stupid update
#2179 [16:06] * Wahrheit is trying purple aubot text
#2179 [16:06] <Wahrheit> aw
#2180 [16:07] <aetherian> stupid update for a stupid bot
#2181 [16:07] <nevercast> LOL aetherian
#2182 [16:07] <aetherian> aww
#2183 [16:07] <aetherian> it didn't work
#2184 [16:07] <aetherian> >.>
#2185 [16:07] <nevercast> GreyBot isn't here?
#2186 [16:07] <aetherian> !ping
#2187 [16:07] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.38 Seconds.
#2188 [16:07] <Kealper> that is diabled because nubs abused that
#2189 [16:07] <aetherian> it's here
#2190 [16:07] <aetherian> is wiki also disabled?
#2191 [16:08] <nevercast> !wiki disabled
#2192 [16:08] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disability
#2193 [16:08] <GreyBot> A disability (or lack of a given ability, as the "dis" qualifier denotes) in humans may be physical, cognitive/mental, sensory, emotional, developmental or some combination of these.
#2194 [16:08] <nevercast> Nope :)
#2195 [16:08] <aetherian> and I abuse rule 6 ;)
#2196 [16:08] <aetherian> but normally I just do /me is away
#2197 [16:08] <Kealper> i was unaware it was a good thing to abuse channel rules
#2198 [16:09] <nevercast> aetherian doesn't use auto join but he sure mashes keys to get back in :P
#2199 [16:09] <aetherian> well, the more you know.
#2200 [16:09] <aetherian> yep :D
#2201 [16:09] <aetherian> brb
#2202 [16:11] <Kealper> gotta love irssi....switching computers ftw
#2203 [16:12] <nevercast> lol.
#2204 [16:12] <nevercast> I just switch workspace
#2205 [16:12] <nevercast> one has Linux
#2206 [16:12] <nevercast> one has Windows
#2207 [16:12] <aetherian> ah, linux
#2208 [16:12] <Kealper> i mean switching to a whole different part of my house lol
#2209 [16:13] <aetherian> I still can't get linux to connect to wifi
#2210 [16:13] <GV> Fail
#2211 [16:13] <aetherian> except as a vm
#2212 [16:13] <aetherian> but..
#2213 [16:13] <aetherian> you know
#2214 [16:13] <GV> But.. fail.
#2215 [16:13] <nevercast> lol.
#2216 [16:13] <nevercast> aetherian, OS?
#2217 [16:13] * Kealper makes a drum backing on his keyboard
#2217 [16:14] <GV> Also Kealper.. the error:
#2218 [16:14] <GV> Failed to save skin: org.jets3t.service.S3ServiceException: Request Error. PUT '/MinecraftSkins/OliPicard.png' on Host 's3.amazonaws.com' @ 'Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:40:37 GMT' -- ResponseCode: 400, ResponseStatus: Bad Request
#2219 [16:14] <GV> Means the person tried to upload a skin directly using minecraftskins.com
#2220 [16:14] <GV> Doesn't work. Needs to upload via minecraft.net in their profile page
#2221 [16:14] <BarryCarlyon> Lol.
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#2223 [16:15] <GV> The guy at minecraftskins.com apparently is lazy, and didn't update his script to work with minecraft's migrated servers.
#2224 [16:15] <GV> It's been what, 2 months?
#2225 [16:16] * Kilo [Kilo@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2226 [16:16] <Kealper> oh....
#2227 [16:16] <Kilo> Hey
#2228 [16:16] * Kealper didn't really care that much
#2228 [16:16] <Kealper> ello
#2229 [16:16] <Kilo> Im having a horrible problem (well a couple really) that i cannot find any answer to at all on the internet...
#2230 [16:17] <Kilo> is anyone a massive expert on fixing all things horrible and minecraft related =P?
#2231 [16:17] <Shadow386> depends on the issue
#2232 [16:17] <Shadow386> and what is minecraft?
#2233 [16:18] <Kilo> wat
#2234 [16:18] <Kealper> lol
#2235 [16:18] <Kilo> lol
#2236 [16:18] <Shadow386> lol
#2237 [16:18] <Kealper> what issues?
#2238 [16:18] <Kilo> hehe, yeah... 2 problems really. one with lag and one with the randomly generated terrain
#2239 [16:19] <Kilo> I never used to have a problem with either
#2240 [16:19] <nevercast> Kilo, okay specify the problems.
#2241 [16:19] <Kilo> :)
#2242 [16:19] <Kealper> what kind of lag? really choppy or really delayed?
#2243 [16:19] <nevercast> ^ like how you differenciated between network and hardware
#2244 [16:19] <Kealper> ikr?
#2245 [16:19] <nevercast> totally!
#2246 [16:20] <Kilo> My game used to use about 70-80% CPU power on average and is now staying at 100, The lag is choppy i guess
#2247 [16:20] <Kealper> what are your computer's specs?
#2248 [16:20] <nevercast> Kilo, What's your CPU? Make/Model/Clock speed?
#2249 [16:20] <Kilo> i have deleted all reminants of minecraft and started it from scratch a couple times to try fix it...
#2250 [16:20] <Kilo> umm specs..
#2251 [16:21] <Kilo> 2.8 p4
#2252 [16:21] <Kilo> 2gig ram
#2253 [16:21] <Kilo> loads of space...
#2254 [16:21] <aetherian> back
#2255 [16:21] <Kilo> 40 gig free i think
#2256 [16:21] <EmpiresBane> does anybody know if the Sun JRE ore Open JRE runs faster than the other?
#2257 [16:21] <aetherian> nevercast
#2258 [16:21] <Kealper> graphics chip?
#2259 [16:21] <aetherian> you mean the linux os or my current os?
#2260 [16:21] <Kilo> 512mb ati sapphire
#2261 [16:21] <nevercast> aetherian, What linux distro?
#2262 [16:22] <aetherian> I've only tried in ubuntu and suse, but I'm going to be trying kubuntu.
#2263 [16:22] <Kealper> hmm...
#2264 [16:22] <nevercast> EmpiresBane, I would not have a clue which runs faster.. I think OpenJRE runs faster because it's more native or something? But Sun JRE is always more up to date.
#2265 [16:22] <Kilo> I never used to have a problem with lag at all, but now its horrible and crashes more too
#2266 [16:22] * Kealper thinks it's a Dell Optiplex
#2266 [16:22] <nevercast> Kealper, Gx150 like I have?
#2267 [16:23] <Kilo> i have an optiplex...
#2268 [16:23] <nevercast> aetherian, Ubuntu 10.04 should support it no problems
#2269 [16:23] <Kealper> yachzee!
#2270 [16:23] * nevercast pats Kealper on the back
#2270 [16:23] <nevercast> Nice job mate.
#2271 [16:23] <Kilo> lol
#2272 [16:23] * Kealper didn't even touch an internet browser for that
#2272 [16:23] <aetherian> gesundheit
#2273 [16:23] <Kealper> ok, enough tomfoolery
#2274 [16:23] <aetherian> back to bobfoolery
#2275 [16:23] <Kilo> hehe, how did you know though?
#2276 [16:23] <Kealper> Kilo: so it has worked fine before?
#2277 [16:24] <Kilo> yeah, no problems at all - even when the world got abouve 3 meg it was fine
#2278 [16:24] <Kealper> they are quite common, most page 40 gig hdds, and they almost always have P4s
#2279 [16:24] <Kealper> page?...how'd that get there....was supposed to be have
#2280 [16:24] <Kilo> the occasional crash but nothing that often..
#2281 [16:24] <Kilo> hehe
#2282 [16:25] <Kealper> Kilo: press escape to get to the menu, select options
#2283 [16:25] <Kilo> i actually have an 80gig, but have 40 free on it... so kudos to you still hehe
#2284 [16:25] <Kilo> Ive tried most combinations of settings
#2285 [16:25] <Kilo> will just open it up...
#2286 [16:25] <Kealper> set the graphics to Fast and disatnce to tiny
#2287 [16:25] <Kealper> distance*
#2288 [16:25] <Kealper> stupid cold fingers >.>
#2289 [16:25] <EmpiresBane> is 6.0.02 the newest version?
#2290 [16:25] <aetherian> go get some hot coco
#2291 [16:26] <EmpiresBane> no it is not.
#2292 [16:26] <Kilo> It still lags horribly
#2293 [16:27] <Kilo> infact i think it may be more...
#2294 [16:27] <Kealper> Kilo: check Task Manger and see what your cpu/ram usage is without minecraft running
#2295 [16:28] <Kilo> cpu usage is about 7%
#2296 [16:28] <Kilo> dropped to 2-4 % now
#2297 [16:28] <Kilo> how do i check ram?
#2298 [16:28] <aetherian> memory
#2299 [16:29] <Kilo> where is that? i cant see it =/
#2300 [16:29] <aetherian> is this windows?
#2301 [16:29] <Kilo> aye
#2302 [16:29] <Kealper> one could assume
#2303 [16:29] <Kilo> xp
#2304 [16:29] <aetherian> if so, click on the performance tab
#2305 [16:29] <Kilo> right...
#2306 [16:29] <Kilo> physical memory?
#2307 [16:29] <aetherian> below cpu usage, there should be memory usage
#2308 [16:29] <Kilo> PF
#2309 [16:29] <Kilo> page file?
#2310 [16:29] <aetherian> to the left of physical memory
#2311 [16:30] <aetherian> a little bar
#2312 [16:30] <aetherian> or is that not in xp
#2313 [16:30] <Wahrheit> Kealper: Skin defaults after teleporting. What do?
#2314 [16:30] <Kilo> umm...
#2315 [16:30] <Kilo> is PF usage the one i want
#2316 [16:30] <Wahrheit> Only for personal view though
#2317 [16:30] <Kilo> its under the CPU usage
#2318 [16:30] <aetherian> do you have resource monitor?
#2319 [16:31] <Kealper> Wahrheit: it's the way skins on the client work....and minecraf.net must be shaky
#2320 [16:31] <Kealper> no aetherian
#2321 [16:31] <aetherian> aww
#2322 [16:31] <Kilo> i really dont know...
#2323 [16:31] <Kealper> Kilo: it is PF or Page File that you want
#2324 [16:31] <Kealper> that is the ram readout for XP
#2325 [16:31] <Kilo> ahh cool
#2326 [16:31] <Kealper> so that is what out of what?
#2327 [16:31] <Kilo> then its 589mb
#2328 [16:31] <Kilo> and no green bars at all
#2329 [16:31] <Kealper> out of ~2048mb?
#2330 [16:31] <Kilo> is that right?
#2331 [16:31] <Kilo> yeah
#2332 [16:31] <Kealper> well, ~4096
#2333 [16:31] <Kilo> thats what system says anyhow
#2334 [16:31] <nevercast> Ram + RamSizeOfPF
#2335 [16:31] <Kealper> hmm......
#2336 [16:32] <nevercast> Hmm should be fine.. think his Saphire can't handle it?
#2337 [16:32] <nevercast> That said my 6600GT with it's 128mb ram. Runs Far Render on Fancy with no problems
#2338 [16:32] <Kealper> probably, it's an aftermarket card, Saphire makes ATI cards, so....512mb ram means it's got to be decent
#2339 [16:32] <Kilo> even when the CPU usage is on 0% it has at least one green bar, the PF usage doesnt show a bar at all.. is that alright? or have i got some horrible memory problem?
#2340 [16:33] <Kealper> hell, mine is a 512mb Saphire ATI one, too
#2341 [16:33] <aetherian> !isdown minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#2342 [16:33] <GreyBot> aetherian: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2343 [16:33] <aetherian> =\
#2344 [16:33] <nevercast> Yeah your Saphires' should be fine
#2345 [16:33] <Kealper> i'd assume mine would be fine >.>
#2346 [16:33] <Kilo> Its always been good to me in the past
#2347 [16:33] <nevercast> Kilo, This on Single player?
#2348 [16:33] <Kealper> Kilo: try a new map?
#2349 [16:33] <Kilo> yeah
#2350 [16:33] <Kilo> i have,
#2351 [16:34] <Kilo> ive tried removing the whole .minecraft folder and using a new download
#2352 [16:34] <Kilo> but every time its the same
#2353 [16:35] <Kealper> tried updating both java and your graphics drivers?
#2354 [16:35] <Kilo> ive closed all unnecessary processes and its still lagging.. i even had steam running along side it before and it was happy as hell.. and steam eats processing power
#2355 [16:35] <Kilo> i have updated java but as my graphics card is no longer supported by ati its horrible to find newer versions
#2356 [16:36] <Kealper> no longer supported? what chipset is it?
#2357 [16:36] <aetherian> omigod, 129 gold vein (albeit in classic)
#2358 [16:36] <Kilo> thinking about it... I have always used a slightly older driver for this graphics card as i have never been able to get the newest working
#2359 [16:36] <Kilo> chipset? sorry.. im no good with the lingo
#2360 [16:37] <Kealper> like mine would be a Radeon HD 3850 chipset, some others might be an X1600, etc
#2361 [16:37] <Kilo> ahh
#2362 [16:37] <Kilo> cool
#2363 [16:37] <Kilo> its an ati sapphire x1650 pro
#2364 [16:37] <Kealper> hmm....dated, but that should not be a bottleneck....
#2365 [16:38] * Kealper scratches his head
#2365 [16:38] <nevercast> Kealper, Like I said my NVidia is a lot less than those ati cards
#2366 [16:38] <Kilo> is bottleneck bad yeah?
#2367 [16:38] <nevercast> Kilo, Think of a bottle, and it's neck.. neck being the smallest part
#2368 [16:38] <Kealper> bottleneck is bad, yes lol
#2369 [16:38] <nevercast> Bottleneck in computer speak is what limits your computer.. yes bad
#2370 [16:38] <Kilo> ahh.. i see - your analogy intregues me...
#2371 [16:38] <nevercast> :)
#2372 [16:39] <Kilo> I had a small problem with overheating a little while ago.. but it was fine after that for at least a month..
#2373 [16:40] <Kilo> i defragmented my drive yesterday to see if that would help but it hasnt appeared to make any difference at all
#2374 [16:40] <Kilo> im honestly horribly stuck and think i may die without minecraft
#2375 [16:40] <aetherian> I can hurry things along
#2376 [16:40] * aetherian stabs kilo
#2376 [16:41] <Kilo> * dies?
#2377 [16:41] <nevercast> Build Started.. Build Progress. Build Succeeded.. I love it when that happens
#2378 [16:41] <aetherian> *kilo has been resurrected as a zombie!
#2379 [16:41] <Kilo> im also not very skilled in mirc
#2380 [16:41] <aetherian> get pchat
#2381 [16:41] <Kealper> /me dies
#2382 [16:41] <aetherian> it's better, kilo
#2383 [16:41] <Kilo> less so now i only desire brains and minecraft
#2384 [16:41] <nevercast> Get xchat damn it
#2385 [16:41] <nevercast> Lol Kilo
#2386 [16:41] <aetherian> xchat costs money on windows dammit
#2387 [16:42] <nevercast> aetherian, No it doesn't!
#2388 [16:42] <Kealper> hmmmmm.....
#2389 [16:42] <Kilo> lol
#2390 [16:42] <aetherian> I can't be assed to find out how to remove the expiration
#2391 [16:42] <nevercast> http://www.silverex.org/download/
#2392 [16:42] <nevercast> You don't
#2393 [16:42] <nevercast> You download XChat2
#2394 [16:42] <Kealper> Kilo: i would assume you have restarted your computer since it started messing up?
#2395 [16:42] <aetherian> besides, pchat is lovely
#2396 [16:42] <Kilo> Yes 8 or 9 times =P
#2397 [16:43] <nevercast> What a troublesome problem you have Kilo.. hmmm.
#2398 [16:43] <nevercast> Kealper, You're running a similar card right?
#2399 [16:43] <nevercast> Kealper, So a recent update hasn't derp'd up ATI cards?
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#2401 [16:44] <Kilo> normally im good at fixing stuff like this (even though my usual last resort method is to destroy everything and leave no trace) but this is horrible
#2402 [16:44] <nevercast> Kilo, Nothing beats a good format :P
#2403 [16:44] <Kealper> anything changed since this started happening? (hardware messiness, installed any antivirus programs, etc)
#2404 [16:44] <Kealper> nevercast: no, mine is a lot newer than an X1650
#2405 [16:44] <Kilo> its honestly an option at the moment...
#2406 [16:44] <Kilo> umm...
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#2408 [16:44] <nevercast> Minecraft is worse than heroin
#2409 [16:45] <Kilo> the only thing i can think of is that i got a new hard drive - but its an external usb attached one
#2410 [16:45] <mib_udpfm1> That's not right. I have just joined IRC and went to Minecraft one and once i clicked 'join' it said i was banned there.
#2411 [16:45] <Kilo> wat
#2412 [16:45] <Voki> heroin is great u bob
#2413 [16:45] <peru> it does not cost as much
#2414 [16:45] <Voki> minecraft is even better
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#2416 [16:47] <Kealper> if only he had waited 5 more sec
#2417 [16:47] <Voki> does anybody know if the new update release this month?
#2418 [16:47] <Kealper> i would have told him how to get into that channel he wanted
#2419 [16:47] <Kealper> Voki: maybe
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#2421 [16:48] <Voki> ok thanks
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#2423 [16:48] <Voki> notch meaned that it will contain more underwater conent
#2424 [16:48] <nevercast> Kealper, Wasn't banned.. Just not registered?
#2425 [16:48] <Voki> *content
#2426 [16:48] <Kilo> is there any way to get minecraft to run from a different drive? rather than appdata on c?
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#2428 [16:48] <Kealper> nevercast: "mib_*!Mibbit@*" is probably banned
#2429 [16:49] <Voki> yes
#2430 [16:49] <Kealper> Kilo: no, not yet :/
#2431 [16:49] <Voki> copy the file into a new file
#2432 [16:49] <Voki> ^^
#2433 [16:49] <nevercast> Kealper, lol.
#2434 [16:49] <Kilo> hmm.. i was thinking C:/ may have been the problem
#2435 [16:49] <Kilo> wait.. does that work?
#2436 [16:49] <Voki> or another drive
#2437 [16:50] <Voki> yes of course
#2438 [16:50] <Kilo> what - the appdata?
#2439 [16:50] <Kilo> .minecraft folder?
#2440 [16:50] <MCHelpBot> Thank you
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#2442 [16:50] <Voki> you can just put the minecraft file into another place
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#2444 [16:50] <Voki> mc folder year
#2445 [16:50] <ArmchairAce> 'evening, all!
#2446 [16:50] <Kealper> ello
#2447 [16:50] <nevercast> Hey ArmchairAce
#2448 [16:50] <Kilo> ill give it a look...
#2449 [16:51] <GV> Voki, that.. doesn't work
#2450 [16:51] <Kealper> Voki: uhh....that won't fix that
#2451 [16:51] <Voki> you mean?
#2452 [16:51] <Voki> i will try it
#2453 [16:51] <Kealper> there is no way to have minecraft use a different working directory
#2454 [16:51] <GV> Minecraft expects the .minecraft folder to be in %appdata%
#2455 [16:51] <Kealper> at this time
#2456 [16:51] * GV coughs symlinks
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#2457 [16:51] <GV> But you'd still have to have .minecraft in %appdata%
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#2459 [16:51] <Kilo> there has to be a code or something you can use to change it right?
#2460 [16:52] <GV> Nope
#2461 [16:52] <GV> Not right now
#2462 [16:52] <ArmchairAce> I have a few questions about what can and can't be done in Multiplayer. Can players mine in groups and then share the proceeds of their mining?
#2463 [16:52] <Voki> yes
#2464 [16:52] <relsqui> ArmchairAce: it's not automated, but they can choose to
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#2466 [16:52] <ArmchairAce> Nice!
#2467 [16:52] <GV> ArmchairAce - Sure, you can drop blocks that you mine
#2468 [16:53] <ArmchairAce> ... and can the fruits of their labour then be taken offline? (i.e. if I get 5 diamonds on MP, can I then use them offline?)
#2469 [16:53] <Kilo> nope
#2470 [16:53] <GV> Hmm, no.
#2471 [16:53] <Kilo> umm.. i found a link about portable minecraft.. should this actually work?
#2472 [16:53] <Voki> lol no
#2473 [16:53] <GV> If you're running the server, you can migrate the server's world, over to your single player world, and continue mining from there.
#2474 [16:53] <Kilo> http://en.kioskea.net/faq/9814-portable-minecraft-minecraft-on-your-usb-key
#2475 [16:53] <lemon-rev> whatever you do on muli stays on muli
#2476 [16:53] <ArmchairAce> Ah, well.
#2477 [16:54] <GV> But as a normal player, MP and SP worlds are not linked
#2478 [16:54] <lemon-rev> no
#2479 [16:54] <ArmchairAce> Okay.
#2480 [16:54] <ArmchairAce> (MP = Las Vegas - What happens in MP stays in MP)
#2481 [16:54] <ArmchairAce> :P
#2482 [16:54] <GV> Indeed
#2483 [16:55] <Voki> om my gad
#2484 [16:55] <Voki> youe right
#2485 [16:55] <ArmchairAce> Okay - just one more question, how useful/less is Lapis Lazuli?
#2486 [16:55] <Voki> minecraft wants to download the packages again to put them into the appdata folder
#2487 [16:55] <ArmchairAce> I've got 40 lumps of the stuff and I'm not sure about what to do with it...
#2488 [16:55] <GV> Makes dye.
#2489 [16:55] <ArmchairAce> That it?
#2490 [16:56] * GV pokes ArmchairAce with the wiki
#2490 [16:56] <GV> http://en.kioskea.net/faq/9814-portable-minecraft-minecraft-on-your-usb-key
#2491 [16:56] <GV> er
#2492 [16:56] <ArmchairAce> Ack, why did I bother collecting the darned stuff.
#2493 [16:56] <nevercast> Oops..
#2494 [16:56] <GV> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Lapis_Lazuli_(Ore)
#2495 [16:56] * nevercast dun goofed
#2495 [16:56] <GV> lapis lazuli is damn rare
#2496 [16:56] <ArmchairAce> (faceplant) Why didn't I read the wiki more?
#2497 [16:56] <ArmchairAce> Is it?
#2498 [16:56] <GV> It is pretty rare, yes
#2499 [16:56] <ArmchairAce> I found plenty of it down one hole, and ended up with 40 lumps of it...
#2500 [16:57] <GV> You got lucky then, in that one vein.
#2501 [16:57] <Kilo> should a .bat file with this code in it work for changing the hard drive?
#2502 [16:57] <Kilo> set APPDATA=%CD%\data
#2503 [16:57] <Kilo> bin\minecraft.exe
#2504 [16:58] <Kealper> lol
#2505 [16:58] <Kilo> lol
#2506 [16:59] <GV> Kilo, nope
#2507 [16:59] <Voki> lapis lazuli isnt much rare than diamond
#2508 [16:59] <GV> That'll work for the USB key, sure, but you'll want to look up symbolic links for moving it between hard drives
#2509 [16:59] <GV> Yeah, and how often do you see diamond?
#2510 [17:00] <Kilo> even if the hard drives are usb external ones?
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#2512 [17:00] <Kealper> that'd be slow :/
#2513 [17:00] <Kilo> you sure? its 1tb and brand new
#2514 [17:00] <Voki> not so much than redstone or else but i wont say that it is 'fuckin' rare'
#2515 [17:00] <Kealper> usb is slow
#2516 [17:00] <GV> Bleh, using a nand usb drive to store minecraft world files right now....
#2517 [17:01] * GV shudders
#2517 [17:01] <Kealper> yeah, that'd kill that menory on that drive so fast
#2518 [17:01] <Kealper> memory*
#2519 [17:01] <GV> Didn't say 'fuckin' rare.
#2520 [17:01] <Voki> use the browser and you won't need a usb-version
#2521 [17:01] <Kealper> oh gosh
#2522 [17:02] <Kilo> see... i always thought usb was slower but my dad always told me otherwise.... b*****d.
#2523 [17:02] <GV> browser also saves in %appdata%
#2524 [17:02] <Kealper> facepalm alear!
#2525 [17:02] <Kealper> alert*
#2526 [17:02] <Kilo> honestly, i dislike the idea of browser version.. it just feels like im playing a flash game that someone has thrown together. doesnt feel at all like i own the game...
#2527 [17:02] <Voki> ah you are still at the appdata-topic
#2528 [17:03] <GV> dubya tee eff greybot
#2529 [17:03] <Kealper> lol
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#2531 [17:03] <Voki> flashgames are the best thing humans made
#2532 [17:04] <EmpiresBane> not the computers that are used to run flash games?
#2533 [17:04] <Kilo> i suppose they are better than javagames
#2534 [17:04] <Kilo> =p
#2535 [17:04] * GreyBot [GreyBot@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2536 [17:04] <Kealper> i know right?
#2537 [17:04] <Kealper> GreyBot y u no stay connected
#2538 [17:04] <GV> I think I need to reboot the computer greybot is on, when I get back
#2539 [17:04] <Kealper> lol
#2540 [17:04] <GV> That machine probably needs it
#2541 [17:04] <Voki> that was pretty evil kilo *lol*
#2542 [17:05] <Kealper> does it have an uptime or a sysinfo script on it?
#2543 [17:05] <Kealper> !uptime
#2544 [17:05] <Kealper> -AuBot(Bot@c-67-177-131-104.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)- I have been running for 3 days, 17 hours, 56 minutes, and 31 seconds.
#2545 [17:06] <Kealper> /nerdrages at updating the bot's core
#2546 [17:06] <Kilo> evil and hateful comments are two completely different things..
#2547 [17:06] <GV> Let's see...
#2548 [17:06] <Voki> wth s Au Bot?
#2549 [17:06] <GV> " UpTime:«3 Weeks 2 Days 19 Hours 43 Minutes 58 Seconds"
#2550 [17:06] <Voki> a mc-bot?
#2551 [17:06] <EmpiresBane> a channel management bot
#2552 [17:06] <GV> AuBot's a helper bot for #MineCraftHelp.
#2553 [17:06] <EmpiresBane> lets us check things
#2554 [17:06] <Voki> ah, irc^^
#2555 [17:07] <EmpiresBane> like if a user has bought the game
#2556 [17:07] <GV> We don't allow minecraft bots in here.. those get banned faster than you can type "WTFshutthatbotup"
#2557 [17:08] <EmpiresBane> so bored...
#2558 [17:08] <GV> >.>
#2559 [17:08] <GV> !uno
#2560 [17:08] <GreyBot> GV wants to play Uno! Type join in the channel to join the game. Game will start in 30 seconds
#2561 [17:08] <GV> !unoend
#2562 [17:08] <GreyBot> The current game has been ENDED by GV 
#2563 [17:08] <Kilo> join?
#2564 [17:08] <GV> pfft.
#2565 [17:08] <EmpiresBane> hm... maybe i'll see if i can get revenge of the titans to work
#2566 [17:08] * Kealper updates the MUD module
#2566 [17:08] <GV> Hella spammy script, plus +c is on
#2567 [17:10] <GV> !weather hell
#2568 [17:10] <GreyBot> GV: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (5:04p Feb 12 11) temp(34.1 F / 1.2 C, feels like 34 F / 1 C) cond(Scattered Clouds) wind(SW at 3.0 mph / 4.8 km/h) hu(47%) dewpnt(16 F / -9 C) bp(30.11 in / 1019.5 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 11000 ft / 3352 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#2569 [17:10] <GreyBot> Early This Evening: Partly cloudy early...then becoming mostly cloudy. Temperatures around 30. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.
#2570 [17:10] <Kilo> Well its happily running off a different drive...
#2571 [17:10] <Kilo> gonna test lag now..
#2572 [17:10] <GV> Hmm, not bad in MI right now
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#2574 [17:10] <Kealper> !weather port huron
#2575 [17:10] <GreyBot> Kealper: From Kraftt and Parker, Fort Gratiot Township, Michigan (5:10p Feb 12 11) temp(30.0 F / -1.1 C, feels like 30 F / -1 C) cond(Clear) wind(WSW at 1.1 mph / 1.8 km/h) hu(46%) dewpnt(12 F / -11 C) bp(30.05 in / 1017.5 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#2576 [17:10] <GreyBot> Early This Evening: Partly cloudy early...then becoming mostly cloudy. Temperatures around 27. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.
#2577 [17:11] <Kilo> hey... can this thing tell me the temperature in DC?
#2578 [17:11] <mypasswordis12345> !weather cardiff
#2579 [17:11] <GreyBot> mypasswordis12345: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#2580 [17:11] <GV> If it's a location on earth, it can give you the weather
#2581 [17:11] <Kilo> !weather polar ice caps
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#2584 [17:11] <Kealper> mypasswordis12345: specify a state/province or something along with it
#2585 [17:11] <GreyBot> Kilo: From Antigo, Wisconsin (3:55p Feb 12 11) temp(27 F / -3 C, feels like 18 F / -8 C) cond(Light Snow) wind(South at 9 mph / 15 km/h) hu(86%) dewpnt(23 F / -5 C) bp(29.82 in / 1010 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 1400 ft / 426 m, Overcast (OVC) : 1900 ft / 579 m) vis(2.5 miles / 4.0 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#2586 [17:11] <GreyBot> Now: Light snow is expected to continue across north central and central Wisconsin into the late afternoon hours. Accumulations by 5 PM are forecast to be in the one-half to one inch range. Visibilities may be reduced to as low as one mile at times...thus motorists are urged to slow down and watch for slippery stretches on area roadways
#2587 [17:12] <Kealper> LOL
#2588 [17:12] <EmpiresBane> can you set some commands to only be used by ops?
#2589 [17:12] <GV> No idea how it made that connection... neat
#2590 [17:12] <mypasswordis12345> !weather powys
#2591 [17:12] <GreyBot> mypasswordis12345: City not found
#2592 [17:12] <mypasswordis12345> see
#2593 [17:12] <Kilo> lol
#2594 [17:12] <GV> Yes EmpiresBane.
#2595 [17:12] <Kealper> aubot's weather command sends back in notices :/
#2596 [17:12] <mypasswordis12345> thats why i did cardiff
#2597 [17:12] <starwiz> So, I can't get Minecraft to work via Java. I'm on linux. Running the command line gives: http://pastebin.com/GBv0YxfR and the hs_error output is: http://pastebin.com/8pLRxTuz
#2598 [17:12] <starwiz> The crash happens when I try and generate a map
#2599 [17:13] <EmpiresBane> you should do that with some of the commands that give long feedback
#2600 [17:13] <Kilo> ive heard of pastebin error before
#2601 [17:13] <EmpiresBane> or have it send in a messgae
#2602 [17:13] <mypasswordis12345> i think aubot is correct i can't see stars
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#2604 [17:14] <GV> Meh, Greybot's not just a bot in this channel. If he spams here, I can just remove him
#2605 [17:14] <GV> starwiz - Running an ATI card?
#2606 [17:14] <starwiz> GV, yeah
#2607 [17:14] <GV> What distro of *nix, and what type of ATI card?
#2608 [17:15] * Kealper smells more fglrx fail
#2608 [17:15] <mypasswordis12345> says ubuntu
#2609 [17:15] <starwiz> Ubuntu, and, FGLRX graphics driver.
#2610 [17:15] * GV nods at Kealper
#2610 [17:15] <starwiz> Lol
#2611 [17:15] <starwiz> Holy shit, psychic.. and I was on here yesterday.
#2612 [17:15] <GV> fglrx has been known to be crappy on linux...
#2613 [17:16] <lukegb> I still don't understand how people fail at fglrx
#2614 [17:16] <Kealper> it's just amazingly crappy
#2615 [17:16] <Kilo> YAY! I now only have the slightest bit of jumpyness!
#2616 [17:16] <lukegb> It works fine for me, with 5 differently aged ATI cards on 3 different motherboards
#2617 [17:16] <Kealper> Kilo: what'd ya do?
#2618 [17:16] <GV> Renowned ATI driver support?
#2619 [17:16] <Kilo> changed the drive it runs from
#2620 [17:17] <mypasswordis12345> all amd drivers suck
#2621 [17:17] <EmpiresBane> wtf...? something just flickered
#2622 [17:17] <Kealper> that's not a good sign Kilo
#2623 [17:17] <EmpiresBane> not sure if it was my lights or from outside
#2624 [17:17] <EmpiresBane> brb
#2625 [17:17] <Kealper> o.o
#2626 [17:17] <Kilo> im pretty pleased with that :) cheers for that guys :)
#2627 [17:17] <Kealper> but.....
#2628 [17:17] <EmpiresBane> hrm...
#2629 [17:17] <Kilo> yeah...
#2630 [17:17] <Kilo> i know...
#2631 [17:17] <EmpiresBane> the sun is still there, and i don't see any mushroom clouds
#2632 [17:18] <Kealper> if your hdd was the problem (your main hdd).....that could be an early warning sign that it might fail soon :/
#2633 [17:18] <Kilo> i have had this pc for 4 or 5 years now... its on its last legs..
#2634 [17:18] <Kilo> but its been working nicely most of the time hehe
#2635 [17:18] <EmpiresBane> i've had this one for 10 years
#2636 [17:18] <EmpiresBane> it's still running great
#2637 [17:18] <EmpiresBane> my laptop on the other hand...
#2638 [17:19] <EmpiresBane> i think it's trying to commit suicide half the time
#2639 [17:19] <Kealper> you said you got a new 1tb hdd? i'd say back up some important stuff on to it just incase your other hdd decides it's time to bite the big one :/
#2640 [17:19] <starwiz> So nobody has any ideas for my problem? =P
#2641 [17:20] <Kilo> i got this one second hand from the council though... ill put it this way.. when disposing of their data, they decided not to use a formatting program.. but to drill a hole through the harddrive
#2642 [17:20] <Kealper> starwiz: want me to take a stab in the dark?
#2643 [17:20] <Kealper> try running it as sudo
#2644 [17:20] <Kilo> and then screw it back into the machine.
#2645 [17:20] <Kealper> lol
#2646 [17:20] <EmpiresBane> wait.... what?
#2647 [17:21] <starwiz> Lol.
#2648 [17:21] <starwiz> Yeaaah, no luck. But I assumed it wouldn't work anyways.
#2649 [17:21] <starwiz> It's weird though
#2650 [17:21] <starwiz> I had it working before, but had to reinstall.
#2651 [17:21] <Kealper> no go as sudo?
#2652 [17:21] <starwiz> Nope.
#2653 [17:21] <Kealper> hmm....
#2654 [17:22] <Kealper> you've tried reinstalling the game?
#2655 [17:22] <starwiz> Yeah
#2656 [17:22] <starwiz> And java
#2657 [17:22] <starwiz> Many times lol.
#2658 [17:23] <Kealper> and by reinstall i don't mean just delete the .jar, i mean actually delete the stuff out of .minecraft/bin
#2659 [17:23] <starwiz> Yeah
#2660 [17:23] <EmpiresBane> imma play Revenge of the Titans now
#2661 [17:23] <starwiz> I just deleted .minecraft in general =P
#2662 [17:23] <EmpiresBane> but i'm still watching the chat
#2663 [17:24] <Kealper> hmm....and you said it worked fine before you reinstalled your os?
#2664 [17:24] <starwiz> Yeah.
#2665 [17:24] <starwiz> Well, I had to do something to get it to work.
#2666 [17:24] <starwiz> But I don't remember what =\
#2667 [17:24] <Kealper> have you tried installing the latest fglrx stuff?
#2668 [17:25] <starwiz> Hm, just been doing updates.
#2669 [17:25] <Kealper> fresh install of the drivers that came with ubuntu?
#2670 [17:26] <starwiz> Yeah.
#2671 [17:26] <starwiz> Reinstalled it 2 days ago.
#2672 [17:27] <Kealper> try going to http://ati.com and downloading/installing the drivers for your card/os there
#2673 [17:27] <Kilo> Just had a thought... if my C:/ is gonna go.. could that be a reason i was getting weird terrain spawns in my worlds - there would be these right angled areas of sand and straight lines that looked completely unnatural.. could that be because it wasnt deleting old worlds properly?
#2674 [17:27] <Kealper> ubuntu packages their own modified fglrx iirc
#2675 [17:28] <starwiz> Ooh I see.
#2676 [17:28] <starwiz> I'll try that, thanks.
#2677 [17:28] <Kealper> Kilo: a dieing hdd can cause all sorts of weird things
#2678 [17:28] <Kealper> Kilo: have you noticed your computer as a whole just getting far slower recently?
#2679 [17:29] <Kilo> umm... possibly =/ im not sure.. my pc has always been a bit tempermental with speed
#2680 [17:29] <Kealper> oh :/
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#2682 [17:30] <Kilo> i always assumed it was just getting slower with age til i feel like formatting and reinstalling windows for a massive boost in speed
#2683 [17:31] <Kilo> would it be a good idea for me to install ubuntu onto another drive as a vague backup system to retrieve any data before reinstalling windows? or is that more trouble than its worth?
#2684 [17:31] <Kealper> uhh....you could just copy the files you want right from windows on to the other drive lol
#2685 [17:33] <Kilo> truedat
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#2687 [17:34] <Pimpy> hi
#2688 [17:34] <Kealper> ello
#2689 [17:35] <Pimpy> does somebody knows how tu use redstone ? I got a question for memory
#2690 [17:35] <aetherian> I shall be right back, I be switching operating systems
#2691 [17:35] <Kilo> i should be off
#2692 [17:35] <Kilo> thanks for the help though :)
#2693 [17:35] <lemon-rev> whats up pimpy
#2694 [17:35] <Kealper> np lol
#2695 [17:35] <Kilo> have a good one all!
#2696 [17:35] <Kilo> byee
#2697 [17:35] <Kealper> Pimpy: what sort of memory?
#2698 [17:35] <Pimpy> i would like tp know how i can manage to change the valur of a bit by cliking a button
#2699 [17:36] <Pimpy> so that each time i click it it changes
#2700 [17:36] <Pimpy> it changes value*
#2701 [17:36] <Kealper> there is a very simple thing you can make called an RS NOR latch, i could show you in my smp server if you'd like
#2702 [17:37] <Pimpy> i know this but i would like to use an input to do : value of the RS NOR latch = !RS NOR latch
#2703 [17:37] <Pimpy> if the bit = 0 it becomes = 1
#2704 [17:37] <Kealper> oh, i think i know what you mean....so one button could change the latch's state to both on or off?
#2705 [17:38] <Pimpy> yes !
#2706 [17:38] <Kealper> hmm....i've necer actually thought about how to make one of those...
#2707 [17:38] <Kealper> never*
#2708 [17:38] <Kealper> i'm not sure how to go about it :/
#2709 [17:39] <Pimpy> i tried whith two AND wuch inputs are the button and the a part of the RS NOR latch but it was a bit stupid it doesn't workd :p
#2710 [17:41] * Kealper gets on his server to test some ideas out
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#2712 [17:42] <aetherian> ...or not
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#2714 [17:46] <Pimpy> somebody has an idea on where i can ask the question i aksed you an maybe find an answer
#2715 [17:46] <lemon-rev> mayhap if you look for electricity diagrams
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#2717 [17:46] <Kealper> i'm not sure where to direct you for something like that, forums?
#2718 [17:46] <Kealper> and i can't seem to get it either :/
#2719 [17:48] <Pimpy> cause i think it can be useful
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#2721 [17:50] <nevercast> Pimpy.
#2722 [17:50] <nevercast> Use a DLatch
#2723 [17:50] <nevercast> With _Q wired to D
#2724 [17:51] <Kealper> dlatch......
#2725 [17:51] <nevercast> It effectively becomes a latched not gate
#2726 [17:51] * Kealper looks it up
#2726 [17:51] <nevercast> Pimpy, Then all you need is to toggle the Clock
#2727 [17:51] <nevercast> each time you wish to switch the bit
#2728 [17:52] <Pimpy> _Q what is it ?
#2729 [17:52] <nevercast> Pimpy, a D latch has two inputs and two outputs
#2730 [17:52] <nevercast> D is Data
#2731 [17:52] <nevercast> C is Clock
#2732 [17:52] <nevercast> Q is output
#2733 [17:52] <Pimpy> ah
#2734 [17:52] <nevercast> and _Q is NOT output
#2735 [17:52] <nevercast> So you latch the value, 1.
#2736 [17:52] <nevercast> Q is 1
#2737 [17:52] <nevercast> _Q is 0
#2738 [17:53] <nevercast> so if you tie D and _Q together
#2739 [17:53] <nevercast> A clock pulse inverts the latched value
#2740 [17:53] <nevercast> making it a toggle switch
#2741 [17:53] <Pimpy> yeah but a clock ?
#2742 [17:53] <Pimpy> like a normal clock?
#2743 [17:53] <nevercast> Clock is just a HIGH/LOW pulse
#2744 [17:54] <nevercast> Which can be achived with either a pulser circuit
#2745 [17:54] <nevercast> Or a button as you wished
#2746 [17:54] <Kealper> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_circuitry#D_Flip-Flop
#2747 [17:54] <Kealper> that?
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#2749 [17:54] <nevercast> Kealper, yes
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#2751 [17:55] <nevercast> Kealper, It seems a little messed up in RedStone though
#2752 [17:55] <nevercast> In reality
#2753 [17:55] <nevercast> D takes a new value when there is a High/Low
#2754 [17:55] <nevercast> on clock
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#2756 [17:55] <nevercast> afaik, Holding Clock low or holding it high
#2757 [17:55] <nevercast> doesn't cause a new latched value
#2758 [17:56] <nevercast> Pimpy, You might have to put a not gate between your button and Clock
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#2760 [17:56] <Pimpy> ok thanks
#2761 [17:56] <nevercast> Hey Freddy
#2762 [17:56] <Kealper> we need diodes....
#2763 [17:56] <nevercast> Kealper, Ye'
#2764 [17:56] <nevercast> Kealper, You can probably make them
#2765 [17:56] <nevercast> maybe..
#2766 [17:57] <Kealper> wait, it might just be a NOT gate
#2767 [17:57] <nevercast> I've had circuits that only work on way
#2768 [17:57] <Kealper> a special NOT
#2769 [17:57] <Kealper> yeah, i think i know
#2770 [17:57] <nevercast> Ironically I didn't want it to work like a Diode
#2771 [17:57] <nevercast> I wanted everything to go high when I triggered it
#2772 [17:57] <nevercast> it didn't
#2773 [17:57] <nevercast> only half did
#2774 [17:57] <nevercast> lol.
#2775 [17:57] <nevercast> Kealper, Do you Multiplayer?
#2776 [17:58] <Kealper> yeah
#2777 [17:58] <nevercast> Kealper, common server?
#2778 [17:58] <Kealper> my own personal one
#2779 [17:59] <nevercast> Kealper, Is it public?
#2780 [17:59] <Kealper> ish
#2781 [17:59] <Chronosz> when you buy the game do you ever need to pay again ?
#2782 [17:59] <Kealper> no
#2783 [17:59] <nevercast> I get 3fps on Single player but up to 20+ on Multi.. please can I use your server, kealper?
#2784 [17:59] <nevercast> Chronosz, Never :)
#2785 [18:00] <Kealper> nevercast: depends on how mature you can be >.>
#2786 [18:00] <Chronosz> becouse i tried everything and they cant find me when i request my pasword
#2787 [18:00] <nevercast> Kealper, I'm very mature mate.
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#2789 [18:00] <Kealper> mc.kealper.com
#2790 [18:00] <Kealper> lemme stop using my server as a normal computer first though
#2791 [18:00] <nevercast> okay
#2792 [18:01] <nevercast> say when.
#2793 [18:01] <nevercast> and if you have a user whitelist
#2794 [18:01] <nevercast> !paid NeverCast
#2795 [18:01] <nevercast> That's me^
#2796 [18:01] <Kealper> i don't whitelist, but i don't advertise it in public listing
#2797 [18:02] <Kealper> listings*
#2798 [18:02] <nevercast> okay.
#2799 [18:02] * nevercast twitches
#2799 [18:02] <nevercast> Can I connect now?
#2800 [18:02] <Pimpy> okay i got to go
#2801 [18:02] <Kealper> yeah
#2802 [18:02] <Pimpy> thanks for everythinng
#2803 [18:02] <nevercast> damn flashing cursor was making me anxious
#2804 [18:02] <nevercast> Pimpy, Look into those D latches
#2805 [18:02] <Pimpy> yeap
#2806 [18:05] <aetherian> kealper: yet nearly everyone knows about it
#2807 [18:05] <nevercast> aetherian, Noobs don't
#2808 [18:05] <nevercast> aetherian, That's the point I guess
#2809 [18:05] <aetherian> all noobs, head over to his server
#2810 [18:05] <aetherian> (and eat his cake, if you can find it)
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#2812 [18:06] <Kealper> oh god i'd make my wrapper whitelist-enabled if someone ate my cake
#2813 [18:07] <aetherian> haha
#2814 [18:07] * aetherian knows where it is
#2814 [18:07] <aetherian> I could make his server wlisted :D
#2815 [18:07] <aetherian> ever find out who ate that little bit of your cake?
#2816 [18:08] <nevercast> this rail bridge is sex
#2817 [18:08] <aetherian> eh? is it the really long thing/
#2818 [18:08] <aetherian> *?
#2819 [18:08] <nevercast> glowing stone for the ground... that's awesome
#2820 [18:08] <aetherian> they give themselves stuff
#2821 [18:09] <aetherian> sissies
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#2824 [18:12] <lemon-rev> You will no longer be able to sign in to YouTube without a Google Account.
#2825 [18:12] <lemon-rev> If you do not want to link this YouTube account, you can sign out here.
#2826 [18:12] <lemon-rev> f'ers
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#2828 [18:15] <AndrewPH|AFK> lemon-rev, pretty late, it's been like that for a while
#2829 [18:17] <lemon-rev> hm
#2830 [18:17] <lemon-rev> new for me
#2831 [18:17] <lemon-rev> it just came up
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#2835 [18:32] <Mytren> Hiya, I'm concerned whether or not I'll be able to run Minecraft swiftly, anyone got any words?
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#2837 [18:33] <lemon-rev> why concerned it either runs or it doesnt
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#2839 [18:41] <lelouch1337> hey umm, so you guys can help me out with technical issues?
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#2843 [18:52] <nevercast> lemon-rev, what's up?
#2844 [18:52] <nevercast> oops
#2845 [18:53] <nevercast> sorry mate.. wrong tag
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#2850 [19:03] <jwshields> Hi, I have a question, whenever my friend tried to connect to my SMP server running on a debian box, she gets on, but disconnects fast, im looking at my console output of the minecraft server, and this is the error I get when she disconnects, http://jwshields.pastebin.com/hGupvB9n
#2851 [19:05] <jwshields> Here's a full copy of it, in the last paste i didn't get all of it, http://jwshields.pastebin.com/rM99xuLf
#2852 [19:05] <jwshields> What could be causing the problem, and how could i fix it?
#2853 [19:06] <EmpiresBane> can she connect to other servers?
#2854 [19:07] <jwshields> It does it on every server, so it's a problem on her end, i told her to delete all the minecraft data, except for saves, and told her to redownload it all, and she says its working now,
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#2856 [19:08] <EmpiresBane> cool
#2857 [19:08] <EmpiresBane> probably a corrupted file
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#2859 [19:10] <jwshields> yeah, thats what i figured. i thought i'd ask here while trying to help her.
#2860 [19:11] <jwshields> thanks
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#2863 [19:18] <Ripsaw> I've been having this problem hopefully you guys can help: I can successfully play online (doesn't matter which server) for probably between 2-5 minutes then the game freezes and it shuts down a minute later saying "Minecraft has quit unexpectedly" Then when I reboot the game about 95% of the time it flashes to the update screen and updates real quick (update screen only visible for about 2 seconds) then it goes to the main screen wh
#2864 [19:18] <Ripsaw> go to join the server again. And after this the whole process restarts.
#2865 [19:19] <Elvang> Have you tried deleting the contents of the .minecraft folder, sans saves?
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#2867 [19:23] <Ripsaw> No I have not
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#2869 [19:23] <Ripsaw> I don't have any texture packs or mods installed
#2870 [19:23] <Elvang> Sometimes a file in .minecraft will become corrupt
#2871 [19:23] <Elvang> Minecraft will redownload everything next time you run it
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#2873 [19:24] <Ripsaw> ok so you're suggesting that I redownload minecraft then?
#2874 [19:25] <Elvang> Generally, people suggest it as a first step. You won't have to redownload it just from deleting the contents of .miinecraft/ though
#2875 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> Ripsaw: open %AppData%/.minecraft and remove the 'bin' directory
#2876 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> next time you launch Minecraft, it will redownload those files
#2877 [19:25] <Ripsaw> ok I will see if I can find that (I'm on a mac)
#2878 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> Ripsaw: ah, it's in another place, then
#2879 [19:26] * Elvang needs to lurk moar so he can provide better explanations why its a good idea to do this or that.
#2879 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> Ripsaw: /Users/YOURUSERNAME/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft
#2880 [19:26] <Ripsaw> ok thanks
#2881 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> \o
#2882 [19:28] <Wahrheit> !isdown minecraft.net
#2883 [19:28] <GreyBot> Wahrheit: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2884 [19:29] <Ripsaw> Ok forgive me for my many questions but where should I search what you suggested?
#2885 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> Ripsaw: in Finder, open your Home directory, in there, Library, Application Support, and then minecraft
#2886 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> in there, trash 'bin'
#2887 [19:30] <Ripsaw> ah ok
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#2889 [19:30] <Checkzor> Hello
#2890 [19:30] <Checkzor> alrighty, so I need to pick out a new dedicated server
#2891 [19:30] <Checkzor> any reccomendations?
#2892 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> !server
#2893 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> ^ that software works well for me.
#2894 [19:31] <Elvang> I thought he meant a new server to play on :\
#2895 [19:32] <GV> 127.0.0.1
#2896 [19:32] * GV nods sagely
#2896 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> if that's what he meant, he might get better answers in #smp.
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#2898 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> 127.0.0.1?! That's the same server I download all my music and movies from!
#2899 [19:32] <GV> It's the best server of them all!
#2900 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> There's no place like it!
#2901 [19:33] <Ripsaw> Ok so I trashed "bin" and rebooted minecraft, it then downloaded some packages, from what I've gathered I should be all set by now?
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#2903 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> Ripsaw: hopefully
#2904 [19:33] <Ripsaw> ok well thanks for you patience and support
#2905 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> Quite welcome; good luck!
#2906 [19:33] <Moksha> I could be in the wrong irc, but I was wondering, is there a way to scare away monsters? A bunch have gathered near the entrance to my shelter
#2907 [19:34] <Moksha> and it is daytime
#2908 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> Moksha: They find magma pretty scary.
#2909 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> pour some on them and they'll probably go away.
#2910 [19:35] <Moksha> i dont have any, but I'll remember that in the future
#2911 [19:35] <Elvang> Flint and steel works well too
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#2913 [19:36] <Ripsaw> DopeGhoti: I just logged on and played online for about 2 minutes then it did the same thing again...
#2914 [19:39] <Ripsaw> any insight?
#2915 [19:39] <nevercast> computer lagging :(
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#2917 [19:45] <Checkzor> Can anyone reccomend a good dedicated server host, a rich player on my server just donated a large amount
#2918 [19:45] <Checkzor> it is now time to upgrade
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#2921 [19:51] <pole> hi
#2922 [19:51] <nevercast> hi pole
#2923 [19:51] <pole> your favorite french boy ^^
#2924 [19:52] <pole> do you know install plugins ?
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#2926 [19:53] <aetherian> waugh, kealper
#2927 [19:53] <pole> no?
#2928 [19:53] <aetherian> too many bot messaes
#2929 [19:53] <nevercast> pole, plugins?
#2930 [19:53] <aetherian> messages
#2931 [19:54] <nevercast> pole, what plugins?
#2932 [19:54] <pole> yes a MOD for active a over option
#2933 [19:54] <pole> only day , don't broke the spawn , many spawn
#2934 [19:54] <pole> ect...
#2935 [19:55] <nevercast> We don't deal with mods here
#2936 [19:55] <nevercast> We deal with the core game
#2937 [19:55] <nevercast> mods is up to the person that made it
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#2939 [19:56] <sprog> i need help.
#2940 [19:56] <nevercast> what's the problem?
#2941 [19:57] <sprog> when i try to play it says user not premium
#2942 [19:57] <pole> thx nevercast
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#2944 [19:57] <nevercast> sprog, What's your game name?
#2945 [19:57] <sprog> what?
#2946 [19:57] <nevercast> sprog, your username?
#2947 [19:57] <sprog> happ295
#2948 [19:57] <nevercast> !paid happ295
#2949 [19:57] <nevercast> That's why
#2950 [19:58] <sprog> ...
#2951 [19:58] <sprog> awwww
#2952 [19:58] <sprog> how much it cost?
#2953 [19:58] <nevercast> not really sure what you can do without paying for it.. maybe single player. maybe nothing
#2954 [19:58] <nevercast> it's 14.99 euros
#2955 [19:58] <sprog> im in america.
#2956 [19:59] <sprog> so
#2957 [19:59] <nevercast> Go into Google
#2958 [19:59] <nevercast> type 14.99 EUR to USD
#2959 [19:59] <sprog> 14.99 dollar
#2960 [19:59] <nevercast> what?
#2961 [19:59] <sprog> would that work?
#2962 [19:59] <nevercast> no
#2963 [19:59] <nevercast> 14.99 EUR to USD
#2964 [19:59] <sprog> ...
#2965 [20:00] <nevercast> http://google.com/search?q=14.99%20EUR%20to%20USD
#2966 [20:00] <nevercast> there ya go I typed the link for you
#2967 [20:00] <Elvang> Its around $20 sprog
#2968 [20:01] <sprog> ...
#2969 [20:01] <nevercast> Elvang, Was just teaching him how to convert for himself.
#2970 [20:01] <Ripsaw> ok so I tried deleting just the bin folder, then everything in the minecraft folder. Yet I still have the same problem?
#2971 [20:01] <sprog> hmmm
#2972 [20:01] <Elvang> Ah, sorry.
#2973 [20:01] <sprog> how do i play single?
#2974 [20:01] <nevercast> sprog, don't think you can without paying for it
#2975 [20:02] <Ripsaw> you can't
#2976 [20:02] <Ripsaw> not without illegally downloading it
#2977 [20:02] <nevercast> sprog, The launcher needs the game files. Game files are not updated until you are prem
#2978 [20:02] <nevercast> Ripsaw, Don't give him ideas
#2979 [20:02] <Ripsaw> which is ill advised
#2980 [20:02] <nevercast> Ripsaw, Rule 1 mate.. Nothing illegal
#2981 [20:02] <sprog> i know i know
#2982 [20:02] <sprog> hmmmm
#2983 [20:02] <Ripsaw> It wasn't meant as a suggestion that's why I included "illegal" sorry
#2984 [20:03] <sprog> hmmmm
#2985 [20:03] <nevercast> Ripsaw, It's okay :)
#2986 [20:03] <Ripsaw> :)
#2987 [20:03] <sprog> well...
#2988 [20:03] <nevercast> sprog, Just pay for it.. Then the game is yours for a life time
#2989 [20:03] <sprog> this sucks...
#2990 [20:03] <nevercast> You can spend weeks trying to get it to work without Prem and it will just not work
#2991 [20:03] <nevercast> Or you pay for it.. and you play in seconds :)
#2992 [20:03] <nevercast> .. that is if $20 isn't a stretch on you.
#2993 [20:04] <nevercast> If it is you might have to save up for it
#2994 [20:04] <sprog> i atleast have 60 bucks...
#2995 [20:04] <nevercast> then $20 is not a problem?
#2996 [20:05] <Ripsaw> So any idea why I can't play online for more than a minute at a time without it quitting on me? It's getting rather frustrating
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#2998 [20:05] <nevercast> Ripsaw, got an error?
#2999 [20:05] <Ripsaw> I've been having this problem hopefully you guys can help: I can successfully play online (doesn't matter which server) for probably between 2-5 minutes then the game freezes and it shuts down a minute later saying "Minecraft has quit unexpectedly" Then when I reboot the game about 95% of the time it flashes to the update screen and updates real quick (update screen only visible for about 2 seconds) then it goes to the main screen wh
#3000 [20:05] <Ripsaw> go to join the server again. And after this the whole process restarts.
#3001 [20:05] <sprog> well thanks guys you really helped.
#3002 [20:06] <nevercast> sprog :)
#3003 [20:06] <Ripsaw> So far I've tried deleting just the "bin" files, and deleting the entire minecraft folder, yet it still continues
#3004 [20:06] <nevercast> sprog, hopefully see you playing soon
#3005 [20:06] <sprog> yes me 2
#3006 [20:06] <sprog> well i will add you as soon as i get it.
#3007 [20:06] <nevercast> Ripsaw, Laptop or Desktop?
#3008 [20:06] <sprog> bye
#3009 [20:06] <Ripsaw> laptop, Macbook pro
#3010 [20:06] <nevercast> sprog, bye.
#3011 [20:07] <nevercast> laptop, using wireless?
#3012 [20:07] <Ripsaw> yes
#3013 [20:07] <nevercast> Ripsaw, Try with Ethernet
#3014 [20:07] <Ripsaw> so you think it's my connection then?
#3015 [20:07] <nevercast> It's possible
#3016 [20:08] <Ripsaw> I didn't have this problem before and between now and when I bought the game in October I haven't had any changes in my internet provider
#3017 [20:08] <nevercast> Doesn't sound like typical behaviour of Minecraft client
#3018 [20:08] <nevercast> Hmmm..
#3019 [20:08] <nevercast> Perhaps it's a new bug
#3020 [20:08] <nevercast> I'm not sure.. I can't test it out because I don't have OSX
#3021 [20:08] <nevercast> Linux and Windows is where it's at :P
#3022 [20:09] <Ripsaw> so nothing you can recommend that I do to alleviate it at all?
#3023 [20:09] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, I didn't know you were an Operator :P
#3024 [20:09] <nevercast> Ripsaw, Try ethernet. If that doesn't work
#3025 [20:09] <nevercast> come back and let me know
#3026 [20:09] <nevercast> ?
#3027 [20:10] * DopeGhoti operates. Oh, how he operates.
#3027 [20:10] <Ripsaw> my router is functioning fine, I'm obviously connected to the internet, and I don't ahve any problems with it on my console or computer (outside of minecraft)
#3028 [20:11] <nevercast> It's just that Minecraft is a network whore
#3029 [20:11] <nevercast> and might be flooding your wireless
#3030 [20:11] <Ripsaw> no more than Black Ops is
#3031 [20:11] <nevercast> No no
#3032 [20:11] <nevercast> More than Black Ops
#3033 [20:11] <nevercast> It's badly written :P
#3034 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> Ripsaw: here's one fundamental difference
#3035 [20:11] <Ripsaw> I'm the only one using my wireless currently though, ok well bad example aside
#3036 [20:12] <nevercast> Black Ops has a constant map at local?
#3037 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> In Black Ops and similar games, the map and terrain are client-side. In Minecraft, the terrain is constantly being sent from the server to the client.
#3038 [20:12] <nevercast> Minecraft has a massive forever loading one
#3039 [20:12] <Ripsaw> and the router is on the other side of the wall also
#3040 [20:12] <Ripsaw> ah I see
#3041 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> So when you play Minecraft, the client has a constant firehose of data coming at it
#3042 [20:13] <nevercast> THat's why you need massive servers to host Minecraft
#3043 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> whereas with other more traditional games, there's a trickle of data between the server and client
#3044 [20:13] <nevercast> But you can host Black Ops on a P4
#3045 [20:13] <Ripsaw> right I got it
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#3047 [20:14] <Ripsaw> still, my wireless connection has coped with that for months up until a day or so ago
#3048 [20:14] <nevercast> Then idk mate
#3049 [20:14] <Ripsaw> which leads me to believe it's not my connection and must have something to do with the application itself
#3050 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> Ripsaw: have we yet tested this theory by trying on Ethernet, or is this all still theoretical?
#3051 [20:15] <Ripsaw> I'll try ethernet right now for the hell of it
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#3053 [20:15] <Ripsaw> but that would be extremely inconvenient to play on a regular basis
#3054 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> true, but it would be nice to confirm or rule out the WiFi as a potential cause
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#3056 [20:18] <Ripsaw> how would I change my connection from a wireless router to the ethernet cable?
#3057 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> Ripsaw: plug in cable, turn off WiFi?
#3058 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> (most routers also have ethernet connections)
#3059 [20:18] <Ripsaw> go it nevermind
#3060 [20:18] <Ripsaw> well I'm just using the one that goes into my PS3
#3061 [20:19] <Ripsaw> let me boot up minecraft and try it out
#3062 [20:21] * DopeGhoti permits this activity, but just this once.
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#3063 [20:22] <Ripsaw_> ok it made no difference, I still disconnected
#3064 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> At least now we know it's not the WiFi
#3065 [20:23] <Ripsaw> right, one variable out of the wat
#3066 [20:24] <Ripsaw> way*
#3067 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> indeed
#3068 [20:24] <Ripsaw> so where do we go from here?
#3069 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> To crazy-down
#3070 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> er, -town
#3071 [20:24] <Ripsaw> hehe
#3072 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> This is an ordeal but will show us whether it's something systemic, or something on your personal account on the mac
#3073 [20:25] <Ripsaw> ok I willing to do it
#3074 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> Create a new user, log in as that user, and see of Minecraft still misbehaves there.
#3075 [20:25] <Ripsaw> blech
#3076 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> I told you it was an ordeal.
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#3078 [20:31] <Elvang> Will a chicken lay an egg while in a minecart?
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#3080 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> "only after it crosses the road"
#3081 [20:34] <Guest> This is Ripsaw
#3082 [20:34] <Guest> I'm on the new account I made on my laptop as you suggested
#3083 [20:35] * DopeGhoti nods. Any luck?
#3083 [20:36] <Guest> I'm waiting now to see if I get kicked or not
#3084 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> \kick Guest oops wrong slash
#3085 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> (:
#3086 [20:37] <Guest> heh
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#3088 [20:39] <Guest> so far so good, usually I have disconnected by now
#3089 [20:40] <SongMan> Hi all, Does the Beta of minecraft come with free updates at all or up to a certain point?
#3090 [20:40] <Guest> free updates until the game is finished
#3091 [20:40] <SongMan> Then do we have to pay for the updates or re-buy the game?
#3092 [20:40] <Elvang> You're set for life once you buy it IIRC
#3093 [20:41] <SongMan> Not according to the wiki, If I get the beta.....
#3094 [20:42] <Elvang> Unless Notch is planning on charging for updates once the game is out of beta, you won't need to pay again.
#3095 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> SongMan: you get free updates and bug-fixes, but no expansions packs
#3096 [20:42] <Elvang> "Please note that when you buy the game, you're paying for the game as it is right now!
#3097 [20:42] <Elvang> You will also get the full version of Minecraft when it is released. "
#3098 [20:43] <SongMan> DopeGhoti: Thanks, that is exactly what I wanted to hear!
#3099 [20:43] <SongMan> Ok, Thanks guys. You've been a big help!
#3100 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#3101 [20:43] <Guest> DopeGhoti: so minecraft just disconnected, it lasted a bit longer than average but still disconnected after about 10 minutes of play time
#3102 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> Guest: hrm; sounds like something systemic.
#3103 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> what version of the OS and of java have you got?
#3104 [20:44] <Guest> so what is my course of action?
#3105 [20:44] <Guest> uh let me check
#3106 [20:45] <Guest> version 10.6.5
#3107 [20:46] <Guest> where would i find the version of Java?
#3108 [20:47] <Guest> under "about this mac?
#3109 [20:49] <Guest> Dope?
#3110 [20:49] <Guest> I found it
#3111 [20:50] <Guest> version 1.6.0_22-b04-307 for Java
#3112 [20:50] <Guest> hello?
#3113 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> sounds good, but 10.6.6 is out
#3114 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> sorry, kinda multitasking here
#3115 [20:52] <Guest> it's fine, I should be greatful
#3116 [20:53] <Guest> so i should update then?
#3117 [20:53] <Guest> would that potentially solve the problem?
#3118 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> it might
#3119 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> It runs fine on my 10.6.6. syatem
#3120 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> er, system
#3121 [20:54] <Guest> ok well it's worth a shot, this'll take awhile so I'll pop back in later if the problem isn't solved
#3122 [20:54] <Guest> thanks for your support!
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#3129 [21:17] <JugaBro> Hey everyone.
#3130 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> hey, one.
#3131 [21:17] <JugaBro> I'm looking for some assistance.
#3132 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> I'm looking to assist.
#3133 [21:17] <JugaBro> Well, my FPS is ungodly low.
#3134 [21:17] <JugaBro> After doing what I could to speed it up.
#3135 [21:17] <JugaBro> Low, as in 4 FPS.
#3136 [21:18] <JugaBro> It should be faster considering my PC specs and the Optimization mod and McRegion I added.
#3137 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> cnange graphice from Fancy to Fast; turn on more Fog
#3138 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> ..and get rid of any and all mods.
#3139 [21:18] <JugaBro> I did both.
#3140 [21:18] <JugaBro> ...I have one mod =/
#3141 [21:18] <JugaBro> Biome mod
#3142 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> that's more than zero mods.
#3143 [21:19] <JugaBro> It was still slow without it, though.
#3144 [21:19] <JugaBro> I'll test it w/o that mod, but I can keep Optimization and McRegion, right?
#3145 [21:19] <JugaBro> I hope that one mod isn't causing the difference between 4 FPS and 30 FPS.
#3146 [21:20] <DopeGhoti> My first reccomendation would be to change the gfx setting I outlined above, following with removal of any and all mods.
#3147 [21:20] <JugaBro> Got it.
#3148 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> I'd also ensure you have the most recent drivers for your GPU
#3149 [21:21] <JugaBro> I have an integrated card, Media Accelerator
#3150 [21:21] <JugaBro> Not exactly for gaming.
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#3152 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> hmm. That could be related.
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#3154 [21:24] <Elvang> DopeGhoti: Heres how far #minecraft got with helping JugaBro, in case theres anything useful to save time: http://pastebin.com/4WRYSeD2
#3155 [21:25] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Is there a way I can make secret doors or something
#3156 [21:25] <nevercast> Something completly invisible to people that don't know it's there?
#3157 [21:25] <Elvang> Theres a method with paintings
#3158 [21:25] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: in a manner of speaking, yes.
#3159 [21:25] <DopeGhoti> ^ that.
#3160 [21:25] <nevercast> Paintings.. Right what do I do with the painting?
#3161 [21:25] <DopeGhoti> also, waterfalls.
#3162 [21:25] <nevercast> hole behind it?
#3163 [21:25] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: put the painting on the wall next to the doorway
#3164 [21:25] <Elvang> Never did it myself, but the wiki talks about it on the paintings page. I'd assume you place a large painting with a passage behind it
#3165 [21:26] <nevercast> Problem is my 'secret lair' so to speak is under another house
#3166 [21:26] <JugaBro> By the way: Without ANY mods, including optimizer and McRegion, I get 1 FPS.
#3167 [21:26] <nevercast> I want to be able to get to it from that house
#3168 [21:26] <DopeGhoti> JugaBro: your video card might not be cut out for Minecraft
#3169 [21:26] <DopeGhoti> unless.. how much RAM has your computer got?
#3170 [21:26] <JugaBro> It's on windows 7 =/
#3171 [21:26] <JugaBro> 4 gigs
#3172 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> then it's almost definitely your video card.
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#3174 [21:27] <Elvang> Does minecraft actually make a lot of use out of the GPU?
#3175 [21:27] <JugaBro> That's sad.
#3176 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> Yes. Yes it does.
#3177 [21:27] <Griob> Skins is down for me, anyone else?
#3178 [21:27] <Elvang> I'm running 6 year old integrated and it runs fine on normal render :\
#3179 [21:27] <JugaBro> Intel Graphics Media Accelerator
#3180 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> JugaBro: have you updated your GPU drivers?
#3181 [21:28] <JugaBro> I don't think so
#3182 [21:28] <JugaBro> This lap top is about 8 months old
#3183 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> Try that.
#3184 [21:28] <JugaBro> laptop*
#3185 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> laptops' integrated video cards are generally not all that great for gaming.
#3186 [21:28] <feenyx> man, BetterLight is awesome
#3187 [21:29] <nevercast> Is it possible to use something with redstone to make a tile shift out the way?
#3188 [21:29] <nevercast> or is that not possible?
#3189 [21:29] <nevercast> seen something on youtube but maybe it was a mod
#3190 [21:29] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: not presently
#3191 [21:29] <DopeGhoti> (without mods)
#3192 [21:29] <JugaBro> I feel like I should at least be able to get 15-20 FPS
#3193 [21:29] <JugaBro> using the optimization mods
#3194 [21:30] <DopeGhoti> I can't speak to the efficacy of mods.
#3195 [21:30] <DopeGhoti> they're not supported here.
#3196 [21:31] <nevercast> Hmm
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#3198 [21:33] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Do you still play minecraft?
#3199 [21:33] <JugaBro> Trying to download the latest driver update
#3200 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> I do
#3201 [21:33] <JugaBro> for my Intel Graphics Media Accelerator
#3202 [21:33] <nevercast> often?
#3203 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> Nearly daily
#3204 [21:33] <nevercast> Intel Graphics nom nom
#3205 [21:35] <JugaBro> Once I get home I'm using my non laptop =_=
#3206 [21:35] <nevercast> Night is so long when you're surrounded by zombies and spiders :(
#3207 [21:36] <DopeGhoti> meh. It's only six minutes.
#3208 [21:36] <Cial> yet im sure
#3209 [21:36] <Cial> that sentence need a comma
#3210 [21:36] <JugaBro> nevercast, you should use the biome mod.
#3211 [21:36] <JugaBro> You can get some pretty awesome biomes.
#3212 [21:37] <relsqui> oh, is it six minutes? I thought they were ten each
#3213 [21:37] <Elvang> Thats what I thought too
#3214 [21:37] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: night is 6m; day is 8m; sunrise and sunset each are 90s
#3215 [21:38] <relsqui> ahh. thanks.
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#3218 [21:39] <Arkose> never long enough D:
#3219 [21:40] <DopeGhoti> "why are you spending time above-ground anyhow?"
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#3221 [21:40] <Jorge> when attempting to launch the game via the client today, note that it worked fine last night, it has been giving me a "Can't connect to minecraft.net [Play offline] [try again]" error message. i tried redownloading the client, but that didn't do anything (also deleted the .minecraft folder so it owuld redownload the updates). any suggestions?
#3222 [21:40] <relsqui> because that's where my bitchin' castle is ^_^
#3223 [21:40] <Arkose> building mob grinder. D:
#3224 [21:41] <lemon-rev> jorge it is known that minecraft.net does go down from time to time
#3225 [21:41] <lemon-rev> its best just to wait it out when that happens
#3226 [21:41] <Jorge> well, that was my thought this morning. but my suitemate can log on just fine, and i could log on from his laptop
#3227 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> !isdown www.minecraft.net
#3228 [21:41] <GreyBot> DopeGhoti: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#3229 [21:41] <Jorge> so it's not the site
#3230 [21:41] <JugaBro> Dope, are you always here helpin people out?
#3231 [21:41] <JugaBro> Ah
#3232 [21:42] <DopeGhoti> Not _always_ but often.
#3233 [21:42] <Arkose> have to play Minecraft *some* of the time ;)
#3234 [21:42] <Jorge> so any suggestions on what i can do to try to figure it out?
#3235 [21:42] <nevercast> haha
#3236 [21:42] <nevercast> that's why I'm not helping people today
#3237 [21:43] <nevercast> it's minecraft day on a sunday
#3238 [21:43] <lemon-rev> jorge do yo know if your minecraft is acually log'ed in to the site before you try muliplayer
#3239 [21:43] <DopeGhoti> Jorge: have you able to log into the site, yourself, from the computer you're trying to play Minecraft from?
#3240 [21:43] <Jorge> yeah
#3241 [21:43] <Jorge> i'
#3242 [21:43] <Jorge> i've also been able to play in browser
#3243 [21:44] <Jorge> the only thing that isn't working for me is logging in via the client
#3244 [21:44] <Jorge> i can even play through the play offline option
#3245 [21:45] <Jorge> i can memory hack my name so i can use my stuff on my friend's server, but that's a lot of trouble
#3246 [21:45] <lemon-rev> well ok jorge do you know if minecraft has gone from being offline to being back online before trying again
#3247 [21:45] <lemon-rev> hm
#3248 [21:47] <Jorge> what did you try to say?
#3249 [21:47] <DopeGhoti> Jorge: what version(s) of Java have you got installed?
#3250 [21:48] <Jorge> java v 1.6.0_20
#3251 [21:48] <Jorge> should be recent or close to
#3252 [21:49] <DopeGhoti> it's a bit stale
#3253 [21:49] <DopeGhoti> get the latst
#3254 [21:49] <Jorge> k
#3255 [21:50] <nevercast> LOL
#3256 [21:50] <nevercast> I totally just lit up like 100 square meters of grass with torches
#3257 [21:50] <nevercast> maybe like 300
#3258 [21:50] <nevercast> so that i don't get attacked :D
#3259 [21:51] <Elvang> Wouldn't switching to Peaceful be easier? >_>
#3260 [21:51] <DopeGhoti> altering the rules of the world? That's cheating!
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#3262 [21:52] <Jorge> update didn't change anything, but im gonna try a restart. brb
#3263 [21:52] <mib_cvcuis> hmmm
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#3266 [22:00] * DopeGhoti should stop arguing with self-professed drunk people on IRC about technical specifications. And yes, I see you're in here too, Cial.
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#3267 [22:01] <Cial> o/
#3268 [22:01] <Cial> hi there random pings from out of nowhere
#3269 [22:01] <DopeGhoti> g'morning.
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#3271 [22:03] <Cial> g'evening to you too
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#3275 [22:09] <Trizze> Hey
#3276 [22:09] <Trizze> I need help with hosting a server
#3277 [22:10] <Trizze> I've configured everything right and people can join it
#3278 [22:10] <Trizze> But when they join it
#3279 [22:10] <Trizze> They keep falling and falling and falling..
#3280 [22:10] <Trizze> Can anyone help me?
#3281 [22:11] <Trizze> Please..
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#3283 [22:15] <Cial> the chunks are not loading on their end
#3284 [22:15] <Cial> sounds like the map isnt being uploaded fast enough
#3285 [22:15] <DopeGhoti> Trizze: are you running on Windows?
#3286 [22:15] <Trizze> Yes I am
#3287 [22:16] <DopeGhoti> Running ZoneAlarm?
#3288 [22:16] <DopeGhoti> (please say no)
#3289 [22:16] <Cial> wtf is a zone alarm?
#3290 [22:16] <Trizze> Idk what that is xD
#3291 [22:16] <Trizze> No.
#3292 [22:16] <DopeGhoti> Cial: It's a bloatware freeware firewall that's known to cause this issue
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#3294 [22:17] <Cial> ah
#3295 [22:17] <Cial> one of those things that we take off of customers computers
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#3297 [22:17] <Cial> and replace with something decent
#3298 [22:18] <Trizze> Any idea what may be causing the problem?
#3299 [22:18] <DopeGhoti> Cial: probably
#3300 [22:18] <DopeGhoti> Trizze: are you running any sort of firewall?
#3301 [22:18] <Trizze> Nope
#3302 [22:18] <Trizze> The windows firewall is off
#3303 [22:18] <Trizze> And I don't have any other firewalls that I know of
#3304 [22:19] <Trizze> Shouldn't the firewall be on?
#3305 [22:20] <Trizze> I turned the firewall on
#3306 [22:20] <Trizze> and now the spawn area has loaded
#3307 [22:20] <DopeGhoti> ..yay? (:
#3308 [22:21] <Trizze> But nothing else
#3309 [22:21] <Trizze> It's like a island
#3310 [22:21] <Trizze> huuuuge chunk errors everywhere
#3311 [22:21] <Cial> how fast is your internet?
#3312 [22:21] <Trizze> They load eventually but it takes a while
#3313 [22:21] <Trizze> That might be the problem.
#3314 [22:21] <Trizze> 10 down 1 up..
#3315 [22:21] <Trizze> ;(
#3316 [22:23] <Trizze> How fast upload do you need to host a server?
#3317 [22:23] <Cial> hm i dunno really
#3318 [22:23] <DopeGhoti> Quite fast. The server is constantly sending terrain to all clients
#3319 [22:23] <Trizze> But I'm the only one on the server
#3320 [22:23] <DopeGhoti> As compared to most other games where the terrain is static and already known by the clients.
#3321 [22:23] <Trizze> shouldn't it load chunks much faster?
#3322 [22:24] <Cial> slightly
#3323 [22:24] <Cial> bah wrong window
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#3325 [22:26] <Trizze> How fast upload would you guys suggest?
#3326 [22:26] <Trizze> 10 up? 100 up?
#3327 [22:27] <xales> For a home connection?
#3328 [22:28] <xales> For a server, you want 100up because any provider offering less than that is probably ripping you off/giving you a piece of junk
#3329 [22:28] <xales> or, a 100 interface anyway
#3330 [22:30] <Trizze> Aww that's expensive
#3331 [22:30] <xales> On a server? not really
#3332 [22:31] <xales> It's actually particularly cheap
#3333 [22:31] <xales> anything less is garbage
#3334 [22:31] <xales> I assume we are on the same terms here, a server is a system designed as a server, living in a datacenter
#3335 [22:31] <xales> Not a home computer acting as a server
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#3337 [22:45] <nevercast> Kealper, Can I please have some iron ingot?
#3338 [22:46] <Kealper> how many?
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#3342 [23:07] <guacamole> where is the mod help channel
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#3344 [23:07] <Cial> #Risucraft will help as long as its not a stupid question
#3345 [23:08] <guacamole> i was just wondering how you get a mod to run on a server
#3346 [23:08] <guacamole> texture packs are client side, but how do mods work
#3347 [23:08] <guacamole> for the server i mean
#3348 [23:08] <Cial> most mods are client side unless they are a server plugin
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#3350 [23:09] <guacamole> was gonna throw one of these comminuty packs on the server, is that jsut client side?
#3351 [23:09] <guacamole> cuz its a shit ton of mods
#3352 [23:18] <Checkzor> I'm having difficulty picking out a good dedicated server host
#3353 [23:19] <Checkzor> again, looking for reccomendations
#3354 [23:19] <xales> Checkzor, dedicated server meaning...?
#3355 [23:19] <Checkzor> meaning not a vps
#3356 [23:20] <xales> a dedicated physical server, or a dedicated minecraft server
#3357 [23:20] <Checkzor> physical
#3358 [23:20] <Checkzor> got a large amount of donation money from a certain patron :/
#3359 [23:20] <xales> http://softlayer.com/
#3360 [23:20] <AG_Clinton> Softlayer is pretty expensive, but they're not bad.
#3361 [23:21] <xales> You get what you pay for, is my experience with both them and Linode :)
#3362 [23:21] <AG_Clinton> What location are you looking for Checkzor?
#3363 [23:21] <Checkzor> central US
#3364 [23:21] <AG_Clinton> Like Dallas?
#3365 [23:21] <AG_Clinton> Chicago?
#3366 [23:21] <Checkzor> chicago would be ideal
#3367 [23:22] <Checkzor> Looking to start a 300 slot minecraftserver
#3368 [23:22] <Checkzor> need 24gb of ram
#3369 [23:22] <AG_Clinton> You'll need more for 300.
#3370 [23:22] <AG_Clinton> Minecraft doesn't scale very well.
#3371 [23:22] <Checkzor> I'm still tempted to just buy my own server and rent rack space
#3372 [23:22] <xales> AG_Clinton: Do you guys run any servers that large?
#3373 [23:22] <AG_Clinton> 300?
#3374 [23:22] <AG_Clinton> I'm not sure.
#3375 [23:22] <AG_Clinton> Crafthub is probably our biggest.
#3376 [23:23] <xales> Checkzor: I've heard finding a good colo host is much harder than finding a normal rented dedicated host
#3377 [23:23] <Checkzor> ahh
#3378 [23:23] <AG_Clinton> You're wanting to colo?
#3379 [23:23] <AG_Clinton> Try out Steadfast.
#3380 [23:23] <Checkzor> well maybe
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#3382 [23:23] <Checkzor> I'm not sure what I want to do
#3383 [23:23] <Checkzor> a guy donated $1000 bucks...
#3384 [23:23] <Checkzor> so
#3385 [23:23] <AG_Clinton> Damn.
#3386 [23:23] <Checkzor> yeah
#3387 [23:23] <Checkzor> shit my pants when i saw my paypal
#3388 [23:23] <Griob> lol
#3389 [23:23] <Griob> nice
#3390 [23:24] <AG_Clinton> Well out of Dallas for about 32GB RAM you're looking at around ~400 a month.
#3391 [23:24] <Checkzor> I asked him if he typed in an extra zero of 2
#3392 [23:24] <Shadow386> wait
#3393 [23:24] <Shadow386> wat
#3394 [23:24] <AG_Clinton> So depending on what you can build.
#3395 [23:24] <nevercast> Kealper, Can I please have a Diamond Pick? I'm gonna pick Aetherian's fail
#3396 [23:24] <AG_Clinton> Colo might be cheaper.
#3397 [23:24] <AG_Clinton> In the long run.
#3398 [23:24] <Checkzor> yeah
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#3400 [23:24] <Shadow386> Checkzor what happened? ._.
#3401 [23:24] <Checkzor> oh boy
#3402 [23:24] <Checkzor> umm I don't know
#3403 [23:24] <Shadow386> can I has $50? :D
#3404 [23:24] <Shadow386> I want a working video card
#3405 [23:24] <Checkzor> really rich guy, plays on my server for 2 days
#3406 [23:24] <Checkzor> bam donation
#3407 [23:24] <Shadow386> perhaps hacked paypal account?
#3408 [23:24] <Checkzor> ask him if he wants a fancy donator title
#3409 [23:24] <Checkzor> Na
#3410 [23:25] <Checkzor> it's confirmed and legit
#3411 [23:25] <Shadow386> then share the profit D:
#3412 [23:25] <Checkzor> Googles his name, he runs a law firm :P
#3413 [23:25] <Checkzor> paypal gives you the name
#3414 [23:25] <Shadow386> someone donated $500 for my server to be alive for 6 months since it's an $80 a month dedicated
#3415 [23:25] <Shadow386> all that money is going there. :D
#3416 [23:25] <Shadow386> what's his in-game name?
#3417 [23:25] <Checkzor> well he said, if we get nether working, which is now possible thanks to bukkit
#3418 [23:25] <Checkzor> sorry not going to share
#3419 [23:26] <Checkzor> he may donate more..
#3420 [23:26] <Shadow386> xD
#3421 [23:26] <Checkzor> I'm still kind of in awe
#3422 [23:26] <Shadow386> ew bukkit
#3423 [23:26] <Checkzor> I've never built a server machine.
#3424 [23:26] <Checkzor> Only desktop computers
#3425 [23:26] <AG_Clinton> You could try asking for a quote at Amadi systems.
#3426 [23:26] <Checkzor> 1 moment googling
#3427 [23:26] <AG_Clinton> I'd suggest asking for a 6 drive array in RAID 10.
#3428 [23:26] <Shadow386> I've used serverport and I dont think it will be ported to bukkit
#3429 [23:26] <AG_Clinton> Dual 5620
#3430 [23:26] <AG_Clinton> 48GB RAM
#3431 [23:26] <AG_Clinton> Or 32GB
#3432 [23:26] <Checkzor> I would like to run it on ramdrive
#3433 [23:27] <AG_Clinton> Heh.
#3434 [23:27] <AG_Clinton> Sour taste in my mouth on that one.
#3435 [23:27] <Checkzor> ramdrive = scary stuff
#3436 [23:27] <Checkzor> but a simple script can backup the world save onto the actual drive frequently
#3437 [23:28] <Shadow386> SimpleServer wrapper works with bukkit and hMod
#3438 [23:28] <Shadow386> it backs up
#3439 [23:28] <Checkzor> Clinton explain
#3440 [23:28] <Checkzor> Lol
#3441 [23:28] <AG_Clinton> What?
#3442 [23:28] <Checkzor> why you don't like ramdrives >_>
#3443 [23:29] <AG_Clinton> I'd rather stick with a traditional setup on a RAID array.
#3444 [23:29] <Checkzor> reason being?
#3445 [23:29] <AG_Clinton> It's a lot easier to use and for the most part safer.
#3446 [23:30] <Checkzor> pshhh ramdrives are not hard to use :P
#3447 [23:30] <Checkzor> but if I'm backing the world save up remotely to my little shit comp at home, as well as to the actual hard drive
#3448 [23:30] <Checkzor> it should be very safe
#3449 [23:31] <AG_Clinton> I suppose.
#3450 [23:31] <aetherian> oi
#3451 [23:31] <aetherian> nevercast
#3452 [23:31] <aetherian> don't hilight me
#3453 [23:31] <Checkzor> Your weary'ness is making me question myself :(
#3454 [23:32] <AG_Clinton> But ya, I'd ask for a quote.
#3455 [23:32] <AG_Clinton> It would probably run you a few k.
#3456 [23:32] <Checkzor> alrighty
#3457 [23:32] <Checkzor> hmm
#3458 [23:32] <Checkzor> maybe I should opt for a 150 slot server
#3459 [23:32] <Checkzor> from a rented dedicated
#3460 [23:32] <Checkzor> just to be sure as to what I'm getting myself into
#3461 [23:32] <AG_Clinton> In my experience Chi is more expensive than Dallas if you rent.
#3462 [23:33] <Checkzor> ok
#3463 [23:33] <Checkzor> good to know
#3464 [23:35] <Checkzor> DAMN linode is expensive
#3465 [23:35] <Checkzor> there vps plans are as much as dedicated plans
#3466 [23:35] <Checkzor> they better give me water a crackers when I wait for a ticket
#3467 [23:35] <Checkzor> lol
#3468 [23:35] <Checkzor> not going with them
#3469 [23:35] <Shadow386> want what I use? ;3
#3470 [23:35] <Shadow386> cant discuss in here though :D
#3471 [23:36] <AG_Clinton> Linode is pretty good though.
#3472 [23:36] <AG_Clinton> We're about the same as them.
#3473 [23:37] <Shadow386> good still shouldnt take every cent out of the pocket :x
#3474 [23:37] <Shadow386> what i host on is good for the most part and its cheap
#3475 [23:37] <AG_Clinton> Higher quality has higher operating costs.
#3476 [23:37] <Checkzor> pm me
#3477 [23:37] <Shadow386> dedicated is perfect and they support :D
#3478 [23:37] <Shadow386> nou
#3479 [23:38] <AG_Clinton> If you decide to rent let me know and I can give a few suggestions.
#3480 [23:38] <AG_Clinton> In Dallas.
#3481 [23:38] <AG_Clinton> In LA I'd suggest Quadranet or WebNX
#3482 [23:39] <Checkzor> Alright
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#3484 [23:41] <andResin> hey
#3485 [23:41] <andResin> somebody can help me?
#3486 [23:41] <andResin> i got a problem
#3487 [23:41] <andResin> :/
#3488 [23:42] <andResin> somebody?
#3489 [23:42] <xales> what's the problem?
#3490 [23:43] <xales> we don't magically know what it is ._.
#3491 [23:43] <Shadow386> xales I know your problem
#3492 [23:43] <Shadow386> not enough hugs
#3493 [23:43] <Shadow386> <3
#3494 [23:48] <xales> :(
#3495 [23:49] <Checkzor> dumb question
#3496 [23:49] <Checkzor> will a 100mbit port handle 100 people?
#3497 [23:49] <AG_Clinton> Yes.
#3498 [23:49] <Checkzor> oh ok
#3499 [23:49] <Checkzor> didn't think it would
#3500 [23:49] <Checkzor> thanks!
#3501 [23:50] <AG_Clinton> Should be able to handle 400 people.
#3502 [23:50] <Checkzor> O_o
#3503 [23:50] <Checkzor> oh
#3504 [23:50] <Checkzor> k guess I don't need the 1gb port then..
#3505 [23:50] <Checkzor> thanks clinton
#3506 [23:50] <AG_Clinton> You're welcome.
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#3509 [23:53] <Miniminers512> Hey
#3510 [23:54] <Arkose> hi :)
#3511 [23:55] <Miniminers512> Yay almost done my mincraft nuketown
#3512 [23:55] <Miniminers512> Minecraft*
#3513 [23:57] <Miniminers512> Hey guys can someone help me find a realistic texture pack on the mc forums?
#3514 [23:58] <Miniminers512> I can't find any :(