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#3 [00:05] <andResin> hey
#4 [00:05] <andResin> why when I start minecraft
#5 [00:05] <andResin> it is veryyyyyy laggy?
#6 [00:05] <exp0> how realistic?
#7 [00:05] <exp0> andResin: is your computer very good?
#8 [00:05] <andResin> yes, it is good
#9 [00:05] <andResin> but it happened me sometimes
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#11 [00:06] <xales> andResin: what graphics card does it have?
#12 [00:06] <andResin> sometimes the game starts godo
#13 [00:06] <andResin> good*
#14 [00:06] <andResin> 9600gt
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#16 [00:06] <andResin> and sometimes the game starts veryyy laggy
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#18 [00:07] <andResin> any fix?
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#20 [00:08] <andResin> hey):
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#22 [00:09] <xales> andResin: What other programs do you have open
#23 [00:09] <exp0> how much RAM do you have?
#24 [00:09] <xales> if you have an antivirus open, close that
#25 [00:10] <andResin> xales, thats not the problem, because I can play with a 128px texture pack with no lag
#26 [00:11] <andResin> but sometimes
#27 [00:11] <andResin> the game starts veryy laggy
#28 [00:11] <andResin> and I cant fix it
#29 [00:11] <xales> as I said
#30 [00:11] <andResin> until 30 mins when its gone
#31 [00:11] <xales> try turning off antivirus, and closing all other programs
#32 [00:11] <exp0> every time it runs of sometimes?
#33 [00:11] <andResin> sometimes
#34 [00:11] <andResin> it starts very laggy
#35 [00:11] <andResin> like if it is running with 1 fps
#36 [00:12] <xales> andResin, once again
#37 [00:12] <andResin> I closed the antivirus
#38 [00:12] <andResin> I just got my firewall open
#39 [00:12] <xales> close other programs and disable antivirus software
#40 [00:12] <andResin> and ventrilo
#41 [00:12] <xales> ALL other programs
#42 [00:12] <exp0> is there anything else running on your computer when you get the lag? You can always open up task manager, look at the processes and sort by memory ussage highest to lowest
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#45 [00:13] <andResin> I think it is ventrilo
#46 [00:13] <andResin> thanks!
#47 [00:14] <exp0> it might be if lots of people are talking in the channel you are in
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#50 [00:35] <shmup> tell me what you guys think. it's happening to one person on my server:
#51 [00:35] <shmup> http://pastie.org/1558212
#52 [00:38] <xales> err, how are they launching the client?
#53 [00:40] <xales> also, it might help more if they came in
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#55 [00:43] <SinZ> cya
#56 [00:50] <nevercast> Hey xales
#57 [00:50] <nevercast> :)
#58 [00:50] <xales> ello
#59 [00:50] <nevercast> How're you?
#60 [00:50] <xales> I'm ok, I guess
#61 [00:52] <nevercast> That's good I guess
#62 [00:52] <nevercast> wuu2, xales?
#63 [00:52] <xales> not too much, dealing with shit in another channel =/
#64 [00:52] <nevercast> eugh
#65 [00:56] <Kealper> xales: did you bother with autoit again? or is it a case of can't even be assed to not be assed?
#66 [00:57] <xales> I might at some point, haven't installed it since 7
#67 [00:57] <xales> haven't had much free time last few days =/
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#70 [00:58] <Kealper> :/
#71 [01:00] <nevercast> Kealper, Come play :)
#72 [01:00] <nevercast> Kealper, I'm the only one online =/
#73 [01:00] <Kealper> i'm on my server right now, it'd lag you, and it'd run like ass for me :/
#74 [01:00] <nevercast> ahh
#75 [01:00] <nevercast> okay
#76 [01:01] <Kealper> the rest of my house is far too cold at this time of night so i move into my room to be next to the heater after about midnight lol
#77 [01:02] <nevercast> Lol fair enough :)
#78 [01:02] <nevercast> Hmm
#79 [01:02] <nevercast> well I'm kinda bored now
#80 [01:02] <nevercast> No one online to give me orders
#81 [01:02] <nevercast> ... Gonna have some dinner, be back shortly
#82 [01:04] <Kealper> lol
#83 [01:05] <Kealper> dinner? isn't it at most like 3pm where you are?
#84 [01:05] * Kealper checks
#84 [01:06] <BadNetMan> hmm
#85 [01:06] <BadNetMan> it's 10:06 here and I haven't had dinner
#86 [01:06] <Kealper> wow it's late there
#87 [01:06] <Kealper> 10:06? my sources say it's only 7:06 pm >.>
#88 [01:07] <aetherian> wow
#89 [01:07] <aetherian> fail
#90 [01:07] <aetherian> but it is 10:07 here
#91 [01:07] <aetherian> I guess I should write that paper, huh
#92 [01:08] <aetherian> pff nah
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#94 [01:10] <aetherian> I don't understand it
#95 [01:10] <aetherian> friend of mine uses a mac >.>
#96 [01:12] <Kealper> macs are not bad...they are just not suited to a lot of people's needs/wants/tastes
#97 [01:12] <xales> and people think they are
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#99 [01:14] <aetherian> but I don't blame him, as his father is the actual fan...
#100 [01:14] <aetherian> whos only comeback is either "blah blah viruses blah" or "blah blah bsod blah"
#101 [01:15] <Kealper> that reminded me of a linux-user joke that fits well with mac users too
#102 [01:15] <Kealper> sorry xales, but i have to say it :P
#103 [01:15] <Kealper> how can you tell if someone is a linux user?
#104 [01:16] <aetherian> uhh
#105 [01:16] <aetherian> i duno wat
#106 [01:16] <Kealper> just wait a little while, they'll eventually tell you.
#107 [01:16] * aetherian laughs
#107 [01:16] <xales> KEALPER
#108 [01:16] <aetherian> wait-kealper-you use what os?
#109 [01:16] <xales> I AM COOLER THAN YOU
#110 [01:16] <xales> I USE LINUX
#111 [01:16] <xales> >:D
#112 [01:16] <aetherian> :O
#113 [01:16] <Kealper> ^
#114 [01:16] <xales> WINFAG.
#115 [01:17] <aetherian> it's better than vista
#116 [01:17] * xales wonders if people actually say that...
#116 [01:17] * xales is saddened
#116 [01:17] <Kealper> lol
#117 [01:17] * xales realizes they probably do
#117 [01:17] <aetherian> it's true, linux is better than vista. granted, just about everything is.
#118 [01:17] <aetherian> aye?
#119 [01:17] <xales> lol, Kealper.
#120 [01:17] <Kealper> ney
#121 [01:17] * aetherian had to use vista for multiple years
#121 [01:18] <xales> you seeing this failbot in #lobby?
#122 [01:18] <Kealper> vista is not bad, it's just not good
#123 [01:18] <nevercast> Hey aetherian
#124 [01:18] <Kealper> vista was only "bad" because the majority of the people did not have the hardware to run it nicely
#125 [01:18] <aetherian> yo
#126 [01:18] <nevercast> aetherian, I made you a personal room
#127 [01:18] <Kealper> xales: i'm not in lobby
#128 [01:18] <aetherian> I'm renovating it
#129 [01:18] <nevercast> aetherian, But it's empty apart from the door and lighting
#130 [01:18] <Kealper> had to restart and i didn't have it on autojoin
#131 [01:18] <aetherian> I also fix'd the signs
#132 [01:18] <xales> Kealper: D:
#133 [01:18] <nevercast> aetherian, Fixed?
#134 [01:19] <aetherian> yup
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#137 [01:43] <nevercast> xales, who be that/
#138 [01:43] <nevercast> aetherian, back online shortly :)
#139 [01:43] <xales> nevercast: abusive bot going to other channels
#140 [01:43] <xales> didn't want it here
#141 [01:43] <xales> well, not really abusive
#142 [01:44] <xales> but retarded
#143 [01:47] <nevercast> xales, fair enough.
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#145 [01:47] <nevercast> xales, pre-banning ftw.
#146 [01:47] <xales> preventative measures always help
#147 [01:47] <xales> especially with bots
#148 [01:47] <nevercast> indeed.
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#150 [01:48] <nevercast> xales, would you care to play some minecraft?
#151 [01:48] <nevercast> aetherian, I think we should turn that area that we are at
#152 [01:48] <nevercast> aetherian, Into a little village. eventually
#153 [01:48] <nevercast> aetherian, That other dude has already started a boat house or something of the like
#154 [01:49] <aetherian> nevercast, you mean the ducks?
#155 [01:49] <xales> nevercast: if it wasn't 2AM =/
#156 [01:49] <aetherian> silly xales
#157 [01:50] <aetherian> it's never too late for minecraft
#158 [01:50] <aetherian> oh by the by
#159 [01:50] <aetherian> I've been meaning to ask
#160 [01:50] <aetherian> what exactly is MCHelpBot, and what does it do?
#161 [01:51] <xales> stuff and things.
#162 [01:51] <xales> that you need not concern yourself with
#163 [01:51] <xales> :)
#164 [01:52] <aetherian> oh yeah, and... uh... why the hell do i have to get three messages, two from aubot, and one from mchelpbot (given that I autojoin mcchatter minecrafthelp and smp)
#165 [01:52] <aetherian> *I
#166 [01:53] <aetherian> I mean really
#167 [01:53] <xales> umm
#168 [01:53] <xales> ignore them then?
#169 [01:53] <xales> ._.
#170 [01:53] <aetherian> they pop up on my taskbar, mr. salt
#171 [01:54] <AndrewPH|AFK> ignore them then?
#172 [01:55] <aetherian> no.
#173 [01:55] <aetherian> never.
#174 [01:56] <xales> um
#175 [01:56] <xales> ever heard of /ignore
#176 [01:56] <Kealper> hmm....i forgot...aubot is missing from #smp
#177 [01:56] <Kealper> hell, i'm missing from #smp
#178 [01:57] <Kealper> problem: solved
#179 [01:57] <aetherian> xales: what about when I want to abuse the bot
#180 [01:57] <aetherian> I can't hear the responses then
#181 [01:58] <nevercast> Funny aetherian should ask
#182 [01:58] <nevercast> because I was staring at MCHelpBot earlier
#183 [01:58] <nevercast> wondering what it does
#184 [01:59] <xales> .bap aetherian
#185 [01:59] * MCHelpBot baps aetherian violently
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#186 [01:59] <aetherian> .help
#187 [01:59] <aetherian> aww
#188 [01:59] <xales> .lolno
#189 [01:59] <aetherian> .bap me
#190 [01:59] <aetherian> .bap aetherian
#191 [01:59] <Kealper> .bap AuBot
#192 [01:59] * MCHelpBot baps AuBot violently
#192 [01:59] <Kealper> wahey!
#193 [01:59] <aetherian> no fun
#194 [01:59] <aetherian> godmodding... uh... mods.
#195 [01:59] <xales> .listadmins
#196 [01:59] <MCHelpBot> "xales" - %S+!xales@darksigns.net - +zo
#197 [01:59] <MCHelpBot> "Kealper" - Kealper!Kealper@190.120.238.65 - +zo
#198 [01:59] <MCHelpBot> "GreyVulpine" - GreyVulpine!GV@c-68-43-58-28.hsd1.mi.comcast.net - +zo
#199 [01:59] <xales> :D
#200 [01:59] <xales> I see no aetherian
#201 [01:59] <aetherian> .stfu
#202 [01:59] <xales> :)
#203 [02:00] <Shadow386> xales? :3
#204 [02:00] <Kealper> aubot...
#205 [02:00] <Kealper> stfu
#206 [02:00] <aetherian> !ping
#207 [02:00] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.401 Seconds.
#208 [02:00] <Ender_> hey, so i wanna use a custom texture...bits from one, and a gui from another, i put them in a folder, zip em up, and it doesn't work...help?
#209 [02:00] <xales> Shadow386: hai!
#210 [02:00] <Shadow386> add meh D:<
#211 [02:00] <nevercast> LOL
#212 [02:00] <nevercast> <Kealper> aubot...
#213 [02:00] <nevercast> <AuBot> yes?
#214 [02:00] <nevercast> <Kealper> stfu
#215 [02:00] <xales> Ender_: Which part "doesn't work"?
#216 [02:00] <Ender_> i add gui to a tex zip, and the gui doesn't show.
#217 [02:00] <nevercast> Spam Kick is broken
#218 [02:00] <aetherian> lol
#219 [02:00] <Kealper> it's not broken
#220 [02:00] <nevercast> Oh
#221 [02:00] <nevercast> It silences them?>
#222 [02:01] <Kealper> if you notice it just bans for 10 sec
#223 [02:01] <Kealper> yes
#224 [02:01] <Shadow386> just need to use resolution mod Ender_
#225 [02:01] <nevercast> right
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#227 [02:01] <aetherian> kealper: it's three lines in 1.5 seconds, right?
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#229 [02:01] <Shadow386> HD Texture fix, also have the GUI stuff in the GUI folder
#230 [02:01] <Kealper> yeah
#231 [02:01] <Ender_> yeah? what's that?
#232 [02:01] <aetherian> make it two seconds
#233 [02:01] <Kealper> girly-men were complaining at 2 sec
#234 [02:01] <aetherian> make it three, then
#235 [02:02] <Kealper> longer delay = more trigger-happy
#236 [02:02] <bitperfect> So, is the skin upload featureon site not working at the moment? Whenever I try to upload something, the page updates and nothing happens.
#237 [02:02] <Shadow386> just leave it how it is :P
#238 [02:02] <Ender_> yeah, it's all where it's supposed to be, and it's only 16b gear.
#239 [02:02] <xales> bitperfect: It works fine - the skin preview doesn't work though
#240 [02:02] <Shadow386> bitperfect it shows up in-game
#241 [02:02] <bitperfect> I see
#242 [02:02] <aetherian> Kealper: exactly
#243 [02:02] <Shadow386> Ender_ 16b gear?
#244 [02:02] <bitperfect> Is there a way to view myself ingame then?
#245 [02:02] <Ender_> low res textures
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#247 [02:02] <Kealper> bitperfect: ingame
#248 [02:02] <Shadow386> bitperfect F5 then F1
#249 [02:03] <bitperfect> Ah, thanks ^^
#250 [02:03] <Ender_> normal, not 32 stuff
#251 [02:03] <Mathuin> Anyone here use any Python scripts to manipulate player inventory?
#252 [02:03] <Shadow386> Ender_ are you sure it's the right resolution then and in the gui folder?
#253 [02:03] <xales> Mathuin: Look on the Wiki, there is a script that can do it, IIRC
#254 [02:03] <Kealper> Mathuin: not really possible without a lot of pain and suffering on the developer's part
#255 [02:03] <xales> or a module or whatever Python calls that stuff
#256 [02:03] <Kealper> i stand corrected, someone went through pain and suffering for you, then
#257 [02:03] <xales> *might have
#258 [02:03] <Mathuin> I've got an nbt module inside pymclevel, I'm just unsure of what the actual data structure is for inventory.
#259 [02:04] <Ender_> yeah, pretty sure. guess i'll go over it. might come back if i have problems.
#260 [02:04] <xales> Mathuin: The wiki can help you there
#261 [02:04] <Mathuin> xales: thanks.
#262 [02:04] <Shadow386> I made my awesome texture pack of 32x32
#263 [02:04] <Shadow386> its a small mixture of other packs plus personal textures
#264 [02:04] <Shadow386> I would release to the public, but I forget who I borrowed certain texts from, so idk
#265 [02:04] <Shadow386> wanna see xales?
#266 [02:04] <Kealper> i was going to write an NBT include for AutoIt, but those are done in big-endian binary...AutoIt is little-endian :(
#267 [02:05] <Kealper> (and i was too lazy to write a converter function that would switch them)
#268 [02:06] <Mathuin> BTW, TopoMC is working really well. It even does multiprocessing for the most part, and can download specific locations directly from the USGS.
#269 [02:06] <Kealper> :o
#270 [02:07] <Mathuin> I bought more RAM for my computer today because I kept on biting off chunks too big. Don't try to map something like Yosemite or Yellowstone. :-P
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#275 [02:37] * nevercast has returned!
#275 [02:37] <nevercast> Kealper, Your server dun goofed
#276 [02:38] <Kealper> orly?
#277 [02:38] <Kealper> what'd it do?
#278 [02:38] <nevercast> s/Opline/Online/ Players
#279 [02:38] <nevercast> Spell error:P
#280 [02:38] <Kealper> shit, really?
#281 [02:38] <Kealper> gimme 5 sec
#282 [02:38] <nevercast> yeah
#283 [02:38] <nevercast> :)
#284 [02:39] <Kealper> fixed
#285 [02:39] <nevercast> awesome :)
#286 [02:39] <nevercast> nice :)
#287 [02:40] <Kealper> modular wrapper ftw
#288 [02:40] <nevercast> indeed :)
#289 [02:40] <nevercast> Kealper, Could you give me like 200 redstone and 100 torches or something?
#290 [02:40] <nevercast> I wanna make a clock
#291 [02:41] <Kealper> a clock? like...that keeps time?
#292 [02:42] <nevercast> well I don't know if Redstone can keep time
#293 [02:42] <nevercast> but it'll certainly tick
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#295 [02:44] <nevercast> Kealper, and if you're keen. Diamond Spade/Pick for landscapping.. and like 64 torches to keep creepers away from the clock
#296 [02:45] <Kealper> ugh....get me the IDs for those and i'll do it
#297 [02:45] <Mathuin> nevercast: what would be impressive would be a sunrise detector. :-)
#298 [02:46] <nevercast> Mathuin, I don't know if it's possible though
#299 [02:46] <nevercast> Mathuin, Nothing reacts to the sun
#300 [02:46] <Mathuin> nevercast: I don't think it is.
#301 [02:46] <Mathuin> I wouldn't mind seeing tides, either, if we're dreaming.
#302 [02:47] <nevercast> Want the values in decimal, Kealper
#303 [02:47] <Kealper> yeah....just the id and the quantity so i can just paste it in
#304 [02:48] <nevercast> Kealper, id<space>quantity?
#305 [02:48] <nevercast> or the other way around?
#306 [02:48] <Kealper> yeah, id<space>quantity
#307 [02:49] <nevercast> Highest priority is.. 128 50
#308 [02:49] <nevercast> 128 torches.. Sun is setting right now
#309 [02:51] <nevercast> 10 54
#310 [02:51] <nevercast> 200 75
#311 [02:51] <nevercast> 500 331
#312 [02:52] <nevercast> 5 278
#313 [02:52] <nevercast> 5 277
#314 [02:53] <Kealper> one of those each will do lol
#315 [02:53] <nevercast> what if they break :P
#316 [02:53] <Kealper> they are quite durable lol, one set of those lasts me ages
#317 [02:54] <Mathuin> Ah hah! I figured out why I spawn in the wrong place. The peaks are taken from the original data input, not when the map gets rotated. Doh.
#318 [02:54] <nevercast> lack of redstone torches
#319 [02:56] <Kealper> didn't i give you like 128 or so of them?
#320 [02:56] <Kealper> i can only give 64 at a time via console
#321 [02:56] <nevercast> ah okay
#322 [02:57] <Xales> Kealper, get a gud wrapper
#323 [02:57] <nevercast> The clock is going to be mostly torches for the lighting though
#324 [02:57] <Xales> I've /give'd myself >1000 of stuff on ShadowCraft
#325 [02:57] <nevercast> So I will have hardly any for the actual gates
#326 [02:57] <nevercast> because it'll all be display
#327 [02:57] <Kealper> Xales: my wrapper does item names and multiple stacks ingame, but i was doing it through the server console lol
#328 [02:58] <Kealper> Xales: don't let 100,000 items sit on the ground...the server or clients do not like that at all
#329 [02:58] <nevercast> i bet lol.
#330 [02:58] <nevercast> I think there should be a wrapper to spawn a chest
#331 [02:58] <nevercast> with the items you requested
#332 [02:58] <Kealper> lol
#333 [02:59] <nevercast> /createpackage
#334 [02:59] <nevercast> /addtopackage id amount
#335 [02:59] <nevercast> /deliverpackage
#336 [02:59] <nevercast> If I knew how the wrappers worked I'd make it myself
#337 [03:00] <Kealper> 3 types
#338 [03:00] <Kealper> 2 types can be done by any competent language
#339 [03:00] <Kealper> 1: java code modifications
#340 [03:00] <Kealper> 2: STDIO hooks
#341 [03:00] <nevercast> I Heart Deob
#342 [03:00] <nevercast> Nawt
#343 [03:00] <Kealper> 3: TCP connection proxy/hook thingy
#344 [03:00] <Xales> 3 doesn't really work though
#345 [03:01] <Xales> and isn't used
#346 [03:01] <Xales> :)
#347 [03:01] <Kealper> MCAdmin and McMyAdmin do it, iirc
#348 [03:01] <Xales> no, they wrap STDIN/OUT
#349 [03:02] <Kealper> MCAdmin i am 90% sure does it #3, as it requires that the minecraft server bind port 127.0.0.1 on like port 25566 or something
#350 [03:02] <Kealper> as does SimpleServer
#351 [03:02] <Xales> :o really?
#352 [03:02] <Xales> that's remarkably stupid if they do that
#353 [03:02] <Kealper> and i know SimpleServer will actually change the config file to force it to bind localhost on a different port
#354 [03:03] <Kealper> and yeah
#355 [03:03] <Kealper> it would not be as stupid if minecraft's packetspam was not as stupid
#356 [03:03] <Xales> Just wrapping IO is faster
#357 [03:03] <Xales> on UNIX anyway'
#358 [03:03] <Xales> s/'//
#359 [03:03] <Kealper> same with faildoze
#360 [03:03] <Xales> depends on how you create the process
#361 [03:04] <aetherian> heh
#362 [03:04] <Kealper> although STDIO is limited in what you can do with it
#363 [03:04] <Xales> Kealper, not really
#364 [03:04] <Kealper> i still think there needs to be console commands to get/set player positions, and get/set server time
#365 [03:05] <Xales> sec
#366 [03:05] <aetherian> anyone here a vegetarian/vegan
#367 [03:05] <Xales> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms682499.aspx
#368 [03:06] <Kealper> i mean for doing that in a minecraft server
#369 [03:06] <Kealper> you can only do what the server console commands let you do
#370 [03:06] <Xales> oh, right
#371 [03:06] * Spikestuff [Spikestuff@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#372 [03:06] <Spikestuff> test
#373 [03:06] <Xales> Kealper, look how ungodly long that is...just for such a simple thing D:
#374 [03:07] <Spikestuff> how do I connect to multiplayer?
#375 [03:07] <Kealper> and console wrappers could be made far more powerful with just a method to get/set player positions (via x, y, z) and server time
#376 [03:07] <aetherian> by inputtin the ip/domain of the server you wish to connect to
#377 [03:07] <Spikestuff> okay can you give me a example?
#378 [03:08] <aetherian> 127.0.0.1
#379 [03:08] <Spikestuff> thanks
#380 [03:08] * aetherian lulz
#380 [03:08] <Spikestuff> I'm a geek and I forgot everything my mind went blank D:
#381 [03:08] <Kealper> i think imma go to bed
#382 [03:08] <Xales> Kealper, don't do that
#383 [03:08] <aetherian> kealper: o.O
#384 [03:09] <Kealper> wai
#385 [03:09] <Xales> I have a cookie for you.
#386 [03:09] <Kealper> :o
#387 [03:09] * aetherian steals the cookie
#387 [03:09] <aetherian> blech
#388 [03:09] <aetherian> coconut
#389 [03:09] <Xales> and this
#390 [03:09] <Xales> http://bitlbee.org/main.php/news.r.html
#391 [03:09] <Kealper> ok, how does this pretain to me?
#392 [03:10] <Xales> Kealper, I don't even use social networking/any of those reguarly
#393 [03:10] <Xales> I just set it up because I was bored
#394 [03:10] <Xales> and I can see Mojang tweeting stuff really fast
#395 [03:10] <Xales> in an irssi window
#396 [03:10] <Xales> :)
#397 [03:10] <aetherian> oh man, that'd be awesome
#398 [03:10] <Kealper> o.o
#399 [03:10] <aetherian> live time coding comments
#400 [03:10] <aetherian> :O
#401 [03:10] <Xales> lol
#402 [03:10] <aetherian> "just finished doing X"
#403 [03:11] <aetherian> "starting Y"
#404 [03:11] <Xales> it's especially nice because of the #m[snippity]g channel
#405 [03:11] * aetherian goes to get the name
#405 [03:11] <Xales> you can't :D
#406 [03:11] <aetherian> aww
#407 [03:11] <Kealper> i just say #&^&$!%(*$
#408 [03:11] <aetherian> it's locked?
#409 [03:11] <Xales> +s channel = you a noob
#410 [03:11] <Xales> locked?
#411 [03:12] <aetherian> locked, hidden, whatever
#412 [03:12] <Xales> lol
#413 [03:12] <DopeGhoti> 'secret'?
#414 [03:12] <Xales> hint: Mojang is in there regularly
#415 [03:13] <Xales> and the term is, as DopeGhoti says, 'secret'
#416 [03:13] <Xales> as in, +s(ecret)
#417 [03:13] <Xales> and +p(rotected)
#418 [03:13] <aetherian> as in secreting slime
#419 [03:13] * Kealper wishes he was cool enough for that
#419 [03:13] <Xales> and +i(nvite only)
#420 [03:13] <Xales> it has a lot of modes
#421 [03:13] <Xales> [+Rinpst]
#422 [03:13] <Xales> :)
#423 [03:14] <aetherian> just curious, it says on minecraftnet that n*h is sometimes on the main mc channel, is he actually, even rarely?
#424 [03:14] <Xales> yes
#425 [03:15] <Xales> he was in #m[snippity]g for a while
#426 [03:15] <aetherian> cool. or do you mean 24/7 idling.
#427 [03:15] <Kealper> he used to be quite a lot, but work has got in the way of free time for him, a lot now :/
#428 [03:15] <Xales> ad gave Miclee a cape
#429 [03:15] <aetherian> abusing the bots in here is fun
#430 [03:15] <Xales> !kick aetherian Yup. Especially this command
#431 [03:15] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you stay here. (Issued by Xales with reason: Yup. Especially this command))
#432 [03:15] <Xales> lol
#433 [03:15] <DopeGhoti> Note to self: Make $bot vindictive.
#434 [03:15] <Kealper> lol
#435 [03:16] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#436 [03:16] <aetherian> well, I just made an ass of myself
#437 [03:16] <aetherian> as per norm
#438 [03:16] <Kealper> lol
#439 [03:17] * Xales takes this question out of the other channel
#439 [03:17] <Kealper> the other channe
#440 [03:17] <Xales> aetherian, DopeGhoti, my name as "Xales" or "xales"?
#441 [03:17] <Kealper> damn, i suck at removing formatting when i mess it up
#442 [03:17] <aetherian> just xales
#443 [03:17] <DopeGhoti> yes.
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#445 [03:17] <aetherian> no X, just x
#446 [03:17] <Kleenex> Hey
#447 [03:17] <Xales> hello
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#449 [03:17] <aetherian> ACHOO
#450 [03:18] <xales> ._.
#451 [03:18] <xales> 03:17:55 -IdleRPG(idle@cecil.rpgamer.com)- Penalty of 0 days, 00:55:55 added to your timer for nick change.
#452 [03:18] <Kleenex> Anyone know a good Server mod, for just changing the time
#453 [03:18] <aetherian> xales: now it'sallcaps
#454 [03:18] <Mathuin> Kleenex: mce.py can do that but not while the server is up.
#455 [03:18] <xales> Shadow386: what is "ShadowPack"
#456 [03:18] <Kleenex> oh;/
#457 [03:19] <xales> Kleenex: you might want to look on the forum
#458 [03:19] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#459 [03:19] <aetherian> hey, anyone got a kleenex?
#460 [03:19] <aetherian> my nose is running
#461 [03:19] * Kealper pokes AuBot
#461 [03:19] <aetherian> failbot
#462 [03:19] * Kealper just crashed that module
#462 [03:20] * aetherian tests aubot
#462 [03:20] <aetherian> yup
#463 [03:20] <aetherian> fail
#464 [03:20] <Kealper> pushing updates without even testing them FTW
#465 [03:20] <aetherian> that's how we get windows :D
#466 [03:20] <Kealper> oh...found the problem
#467 [03:20] <Kealper> my wording
#468 [03:21] <Kealper> function called Disallowed...so i could do If Disallowed($user) Then [bleh]
#469 [03:21] <Kealper> was returning True if they were allowed, and False if not
#470 [03:21] <aetherian> fail
#471 [03:21] <aetherian> ure
#472 [03:22] <aetherian> I wonder if other modules crashed as well :O
#473 [03:22] <aetherian> or did you only update that
#474 [03:22] <aetherian> hmm.
#475 [03:22] <aetherian> I
#476 [03:22] <aetherian> wonder.
#477 [03:22] <Kealper> no, that's the point of it being modular, bad code in one module does not affect others
#478 [03:22] <xales> !status
#479 [03:22] <aetherian> :D
#480 [03:22] <xales> hmm, I wonder
#481 [03:22] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#482 [03:23] <xales> !load mod_aetheriansucks
#483 [03:23] <xales> !status
#484 [03:23] * aetherian hugs aubot
#484 [03:23] * Kealper pokes AuBot
#484 [03:23] <aetherian> a bit slow, but cute nonetheless
#485 [03:23] <Kealper> shitty bot >.>
#486 [03:23] <aetherian> kealper
#487 [03:23] * xales thinks Kealper hates you AuBot
#487 [03:23] <aetherian> is your bot male or female
#488 [03:23] <Kealper> ask it
#489 [03:23] <aetherian> aubot, of what gender are you?
#490 [03:23] <xales> AuBot, fuck you
#491 [03:23] <aetherian> !8ball what gender is aubt
#492 [03:23] <GreyBot> Most likely, aetherian.
#493 [03:23] <aetherian> wtf
#494 [03:24] <aetherian> doesn't make sense
#495 [03:24] <aetherian> !8ball What gender is aubot
#496 [03:24] <GreyBot> My sources say no, aetherian.
#497 [03:24] <aetherian> o.o
#498 [03:24] <aetherian> wha
#499 [03:24] <aetherian> !8ball is aubot male
#500 [03:24] <GreyBot> Don't count on it, aetherian.
#501 [03:24] <Kealper> "what gender is aetherian?" "yes."
#502 [03:24] <aetherian> wait... it's a transvestite?
#503 [03:24] <Kealper> fuck
#504 [03:24] <Kealper> hilight fail
#505 [03:24] <aetherian> epic fail
#506 [03:24] <Kealper> meant to say AuBot
#507 [03:25] <aetherian> don't use tabs
#508 [03:25] <aetherian> >:
#509 [03:25] <Kealper> tabs are cool aetherian
#510 [03:25] <nevercast> my shovel is almost dead lol.
#511 [03:25] <Kealper> o.o
#512 [03:25] <aetherian> o
#513 [03:25] <aetherian> .
#514 [03:25] * xales fucks aetherian without using AuBot
#514 [03:25] <xales> HAHA
#515 [03:25] <xales> \o/
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#517 [03:25] * aetherian loves aubot
#517 [03:25] <aetherian> <3
#518 [03:26] <aetherian> I think it likes me
#519 [03:26] <aetherian> !8ball does aubot love me
#520 [03:26] <GreyBot> Forget about it aetherian.
#521 [03:26] <Kealper> owned
#522 [03:26] <aetherian> NEVAR FORGET
#523 [03:26] <aetherian> >:O
#524 [03:27] <aetherian> !8ball are you shitting me?
#525 [03:27] <GreyBot> Go for it aetherian!
#526 [03:27] <aetherian> o.o
#527 [03:27] <xales> !8ball Is this accurate?
#528 [03:27] <GreyBot> Reply hazy, try again xales.
#529 [03:27] <aetherian> is it asking me to eat its feces?
#530 [03:27] <xales> !8ball Is this accurate?
#531 [03:27] <GreyBot> Cannot predict now, xales.
#532 [03:27] <xales> !8ball Is this sdf?
#533 [03:27] <GreyBot> My sources say no, xales.
#534 [03:27] <xales> dumb thing
#535 [03:27] <aetherian> !8ball does aubot love me
#536 [03:27] <GreyBot> Forget about it aetherian.
#537 [03:27] <aetherian> >:
#538 [03:27] <Kealper> !8ball is GV GreyVulpine?
#539 [03:27] <GreyBot> Outlook not so good, Kealper.
#540 [03:27] <aetherian> !8ball are you lying?
#541 [03:27] <GreyBot> It is decidedly so aetherian.
#542 [03:27] <aetherian> ha
#543 [03:27] <Kealper> IMPOSTER!
#544 [03:27] <aetherian> :O
#545 [03:28] <aetherian> !8ball do you raise pings for aetherian just to make him look bad?
#546 [03:28] <GreyBot> It is decidedly so aetherian.
#547 [03:28] <aetherian> see?
#548 [03:28] <aetherian> toldja
#549 [03:28] * aetherian is older than aubot
#549 [03:28] <aetherian> :O
#550 [03:28] <aetherian> hax
#551 [03:28] <aetherian> timehax
#552 [03:28] <GreyBot> AuBot Your Ping time was 0.371 Seconds.
#553 [03:28] <aetherian> !ING
#554 [03:29] <aetherian> !ping
#555 [03:29] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.41 Seconds.
#556 [03:29] <aetherian> !8ball are you kidding me?
#557 [03:29] <GreyBot> Looking good!
#558 [03:29] <aetherian> o.o
#559 [03:29] <aetherian> !8ball does aubot lie
#560 [03:29] <GreyBot> Signs point to yes aetherian.
#561 [03:29] <aetherian> :O
#562 [03:29] <aetherian> kealper, yours is the bot of deception.
#563 [03:30] <aetherian> !help
#564 [03:30] <aetherian> !myip
#565 [03:30] <nevercast> hmm
#566 [03:30] <aetherian> !isdown 127.0.0.1
#567 [03:30] <nevercast> I think.. I might have a problem
#568 [03:30] <aetherian> !check 127.0.0.1
#569 [03:30] <aetherian> !check 127.0.0.1
#570 [03:30] <aetherian> ack
#571 [03:30] <xales> !kick aetherian D:
#572 [03:30] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #MinecraftHelp (Reason: You are the weakest link, goodbye! (Issued by xales with reason: D:))
#573 [03:30] <nevercast> lol.
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#575 [03:31] <aetherian> what I meant to say was
#576 [03:31] <nevercast> Kealper, Regarding RedStone circuits
#577 [03:31] <aetherian> !check 127.0.0.2
#578 [03:31] <aetherian> aha!
#579 [03:31] <aetherian> aubot is lagging
#580 [03:31] <nevercast> Kealper, Eugh how do I explain this without an image
#581 [03:31] <aetherian> ascii art
#582 [03:31] <nevercast> Can two redstone blocks be directly diagonal each other
#583 [03:31] <aetherian> DO IT
#584 [03:31] <nevercast> and not interfer?
#585 [03:31] <DopeGhoti> with very descriptive words?
#586 [03:31] <aetherian> yes
#587 [03:31] <aetherian> !
#588 [03:31] <nevercast> The redstone isn't going to draw down a block onto the other like steps?
#589 [03:32] * xales kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Banned for 1 day (86,400 seconds =/) - automatic unban)
#590 [03:32] <DopeGhoti> "redstone blocks" meaning "blocks with redstone on them"?
#591 [03:32] <nevercast> yes
#592 [03:32] <nevercast> well.. One has redstone on it, the other has a redstone torch
#593 [03:32] <xales> /alias dayban /knockout 86400 <--- best alias
#594 [03:32] <nevercast> under the redstone torch is blocks with redstone on them
#595 [03:32] <Kealper> lol
#596 [03:33] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, will it work?
#597 [03:33] <xales> /alias dayban /knockout 86400 $0 Banned for 1 day (86,400 seconds) - automatic unban
#598 [03:33] <xales> if you want it Kealper
#599 [03:33] * Kealper ganks it
#599 [03:34] <Kealper> -!- Irssi: Alias dayban added
#600 [03:34] <Kealper> danke
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#602 [03:35] <Kealper> ok i seriously think i'm off to bed now
#603 [03:35] <Mathuin> nevercast: I'm 90% certain that redstone ignores diagonals.
#604 [03:36] <xales> Kealper
#605 [03:36] <xales> if ChanServ enacts that AKICK I just set
#606 [03:36] <DopeGhoti> except for starstep-style diagnonals, yes
#607 [03:36] <xales> don't unset it =/
#608 [03:36] <xales> otherwise, remove it at some point
#609 [03:37] <xales> before my ban unsets itself
#610 [03:37] <Kealper> assuming i remember about it, ok
#611 [03:37] <xales> lol
#612 [03:37] <xales> Dope, you too :P
#613 [03:37] <xales> AOPs can manipulate the AKICK list
#614 [03:38] <Kealper> .join #smp
#615 [03:39] <Kealper> we seem....
#616 [03:39] <Kealper> to have the commands the same on out bots
#617 [03:39] <xales> lol
#618 [03:39] <Kealper> right then....i'll just pm aubot next time lol
#619 [03:40] <nevercast> Mathuin, okay :)
#620 [03:40] <nevercast> Wow my clock is going to be big
#621 [03:40] <nevercast> Oh well
#622 [03:40] <nevercast> Nothing wrong with having a big clock
#623 [03:40] <Kealper> (twss)
#624 [03:41] <Kealper> ((that's what she said))
#625 [03:41] <nevercast> Haha ;)
#626 [03:41] <nevercast> I had to Urban Dictionary it
#627 [03:41] <nevercast> which is said because i use that saying all the time :P
#628 [03:41] <Mathuin> http://www.brighthub.com/engineering/electrical/articles/80361.aspx?image=98380 <-- an oscillator using the NOT gate
#629 [03:42] <nevercast> Mathuin, does it burn out
#630 [03:43] <Mathuin> It uses real-life logic gates, so I don't know if it'll be perfect in redstone.
#631 [03:43] <Mathuin> But making a not gate and wiring its output to the input should make it blnk.
#632 [03:43] <Mathuin> Ugh. 90 tiles, 40 seconds per tile, only 4 cores.
#633 [03:44] <Mathuin> Fifteen minutes. :-(
#634 [03:45] <nevercast> Damn this clock is going to be a tight fit
#635 [03:45] <Kealper> twss
#636 [03:45] <nevercast> Hahaha!
#637 [03:46] <nevercast> Oh I have exactly 37 torches.. which is how the big the clock is.. so I can mark it out :D
#638 [03:46] * Kealper goes to bed now
#638 [03:46] <nevercast> Night Kealper
#639 [03:46] <Kealper> o/
#640 [03:49] <nevercast> When the trees heard I was turning them into funiture.. well lets just say they were a little cut up over it ;)
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#643 [03:57] <EagleYS> Hey.
#644 [03:58] <EagleYS> Does anyone know when LG_Legacy would be on?
#645 [03:58] <EagleYS> Or does he come on here anymore?
#646 [03:59] <EagleYS> Anyone?
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#648 [04:01] <lemon-rev> this is help , i suppose when he needs help
#649 [04:02] <lemon-rev> stick around and find out
#650 [04:02] <EagleYS> Mmmk
#651 [04:02] <EagleYS> I got banned from #minecraft a few months back
#652 [04:02] <EagleYS> which is why I'm asking
#653 [04:02] <Mathuin> What did you do to get banned?
#654 [04:02] <lemon-rev> well why did you get banned you must have done soemthing stupid
#655 [04:03] <EagleYS> CTCP spamming another channel :I
#656 [04:03] <EagleYS> Yeah I know, pretty stupid
#657 [04:03] <EagleYS> but someone else joined in
#658 [04:03] <EagleYS> and got #minecraft in trouble
#659 [04:03] <Mathuin> Was it a permaban or a week or what?
#660 [04:03] <EagleYS> He said I wouldn't be on for a while, but that was it.
#661 [04:04] <EagleYS> It was before November last year, actually.
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#663 [04:06] <EagleYS> well, I'm going AFK for a while.
#664 [04:06] <EagleYS> later.
#665 [04:06] * EagleYS is away:
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#667 [04:16] <nevercast> I'm really worried :S
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#669 [04:18] <Amethys> Hello
#670 [04:18] <lemon-rev> why
#671 [04:18] <Amethys> How do i delete name tags on my server?
#672 [04:19] <Mathuin> "name tags"?
#673 [04:19] <Amethys> yeah the ones you see ingame when you have other players
#674 [04:19] <Amethys> and would good to have those gone
#675 [04:20] <nevercast> lol.
#676 [04:20] <nevercast> Don't think you can
#677 [04:20] <Amethys> only thing is sneaking?
#678 [04:20] <Amethys> and that sucks
#679 [04:26] <Mathuin> I imagine that'd be a server mod. Good luck. :-)
#680 [04:26] <Mathuin> But yeah, with those you can't exactly play "hide and seek".
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#683 [04:31] <nevercast> lemon-rev, How well do you know wire?
#684 [04:31] <nevercast> I think I've fucked up ae..
#685 [04:31] <nevercast> Which sucks!!
#686 [04:32] <nevercast> GV, you about?
#687 [04:32] <nevercast> GreyVulpine,
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#690 [04:47] <nevercast> is there a way to get a circuit to connect to a block directly below it?
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#693 [04:55] <Zaneo_> hi
#694 [04:55] <Zaneo_> hello?
#695 [04:56] <Zaneo_> hello???
#696 [04:58] <Zaneo_> Please answer I need help, my account doesnt work anymore
#697 [04:59] <relsqui> it is the middle of the night for most people in this channel
#698 [04:59] <relsqui> it is not very active right now
#699 [04:59] <relsqui> if you wait around or try back later, it might be easier to get help
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#702 [04:59] <Zaneo_> ok
#703 [05:00] <Zaneo_> is notch the one and only active on this channel sometimes?
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#705 [05:06] <nevercast> LOL
#706 [05:06] <nevercast> Notch is never here.
#707 [05:06] <nevercast> And yeah he should have waited
#708 [05:10] * fogWraith sips coffee
#708 [05:10] <fogWraith> And then there are just those that are here that don't feel like giving support at the time
#709 [05:18] * EagleYS is back (gone 01:11:54)
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#710 [05:23] <EagleYS> Hioh
#711 [05:26] <EagleYS> My defibrillator is disfloccinaucinihilipilificationary.
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#713 [05:27] <SteekarSven> Hello guys i got a question about minecraft
#714 [05:27] <fogWraith> Shoot
#715 [05:28] <SteekarSven> It about the portals can i use them now`?
#716 [05:28] <fogWraith> Not without a mod in multiplayer
#717 [05:28] <fogWraith> Single works fine
#718 [05:28] <SteekarSven> what mod`?
#719 [05:28] <SteekarSven> i own a server
#720 [05:28] <SteekarSven> XD
#721 [05:28] <fogWraith> Got bukkit? Then there are plenty of plugins to handle multiple worlds
#722 [05:28] <EagleYS> <SteekarSven> Hello guys i got a question about minecraft
#723 [05:28] <EagleYS> oh shit really?
#724 [05:28] <fogWraith> For instance, multiverse
#725 [05:28] <EagleYS> I thought it was about roses.
#726 [05:29] <EagleYS> :P
#727 [05:29] <SteekarSven> No i dont fog
#728 [05:29] <SteekarSven> How to get it?
#729 [05:29] <fogWraith> So you've got it running vanilla? Check in with #bukkit
#730 [05:29] <fogWraith> And then of course, first you should read lots of docs at bukkit.org
#731 [05:29] <SteekarSven> ok
#732 [05:30] <SteekarSven> Can u gimmie a liink where in this site they talk about just (portal) Plugin?
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#734 [05:32] <DNX> Hello
#735 [05:33] <GV> 'lo gov'na
#736 [05:33] <DNX> :'D
#737 [05:33] <fogWraith> Sec SteekarSven
#738 [05:33] <DNX> Do you guys know Bukkit?
#739 [05:34] <fogWraith> SteekarSven, http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/misc-tp-fun-multiverse-v0-5-4-netherportals-to-multiple-worlds-297.3707/
#740 [05:34] * EagleYS throws a bucket of water at DNX
#740 [05:34] <GV> Not as much as #bukkit
#741 [05:34] <DNX> tyvm
#742 [05:34] <GV> /join #bukkit
#743 [05:34] <fogWraith> #bukkit knows the bukkit lots
#744 [05:37] <GV> Heading off.
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#755 [06:29] <nevercast> night people.
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#761 [06:51] <Vanoq> Hey i got a technical problem with minecraft. Can someone help me?
#762 [06:52] <Vanoq> please
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#764 [07:01] <Draglems1> could someone guide me through on how to install a Mod?
#765 [07:02] <Draglems1> I try and install 303's grappling hook mod but it fails and doesn't take any effect..
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#773 [07:40] <Spiderone> Hello there, I'm surfing on forums since some days because I got a problem with minecraft. I cannot join any server, it failed (connection lost) and my internet crashes, I just have the time to see the world being downloaded. Does anyone can help me, please? And I'm sorry for my skill on english.
#774 [07:41] <Zippit_> Try redownloading?
#775 [07:41] <Spiderone> I tried, but it still fails.
#776 [07:41] <Zippit_> Try a different server?
#777 [07:41] <Spiderone> I tried 3 different servers.
#778 [07:41] <Zippit_> Whats one Ip?
#779 [07:42] <Spiderone> I'm trying it, ItsCriminal, but my connection may crash. If I turn to offline, you know what happened :D
#780 [07:42] <ItsCriminal> yeah :D
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#782 [07:44] <ItsCriminal> again timeout ^^
#783 [07:44] <ItsCriminal> i think something is wrong
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#785 [07:45] <ItsCriminal> you timed out
#786 [07:45] <Spiderone> Okay, it failed.
#787 [07:45] <ItsCriminal> but i saw you for short :D
#788 [07:45] <ItsCriminal> did you tried allready a reinstall of minecraft?
#789 [07:45] <Spiderone> Yay I was here a bit, falling in the sky.
#790 [07:46] <Spiderone> Yes, I entirely (I think) uninstalled and reinstalled minecraft.
#791 [07:46] <Spiderone> even the .minecraft folder and the saves.
#792 [07:46] <ItsCriminal> so wierd
#793 [07:47] <ItsCriminal> maybe your computer dont lets anything thru your firewall?
#794 [07:47] <Spiderone> It works great for any other game, never had this problem before.
#795 [07:47] <ItsCriminal> i have no clue what could help
#796 [07:47] <Spiderone> Notch :D
#797 [07:47] <ItsCriminal> maybe the best thing is to ask in #MineCraftHelp
#798 [07:48] <ItsCriminal> ahh damn that was the wrong channel ^^
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#800 [07:48] <ItsCriminal> i mean not for you
#801 [07:48] <Spiderone> Errr, okay ^^
#802 [07:48] <ItsCriminal> well just wait for an expert :D
#803 [07:48] <Spiderone> I think it's a problem between Java and my network card.
#804 [07:48] <ItsCriminal> maybe xales is online (sorry for highlight)
#805 [07:49] <ItsCriminal> dont think so
#806 [07:49] <Spiderone> Who is him?
#807 [07:49] <Spiderone> Well anyways I think he's not online ^^'
#808 [07:49] <ItsCriminal> he allways is helping me with any problem and after his conversation it worked :D
#809 [07:50] <newguybr> Hi guys.
#810 [07:50] <ItsCriminal> hi
#811 [07:50] <Spiderone> hello
#812 [07:50] <newguybr> :)
#813 [07:50] <ItsCriminal> i think Spiderone try to reinstall all again like (java, minecraft)
#814 [07:51] <ItsCriminal> maybe it workes then *hope*
#815 [07:51] <Spiderone> I reinstalled java too
#816 [07:51] <newguybr> Hey, someone already got an error while loading minecraft, that is a 403 when trying to get the player skin on the server?
#817 [07:51] <ItsCriminal> sure
#818 [07:51] <ItsCriminal> :D
#819 [07:51] <ItsCriminal> just wait and try later again
#820 [07:51] <ItsCriminal> well Spiderone i actually dont have a clue what could help
#821 [07:52] <Spiderone> Copying/Pasting the first message if anyone join here and got an answer
#822 [07:52] <ItsCriminal> ^^
#823 [07:52] <newguybr> Really? Because I tried different times, and all the time I got this error. I was just able to play just once.
#824 [07:53] <ItsCriminal> newguybr what you mean able to play just once?
#825 [07:53] <newguybr> Everytime I try to play minecraft, it shows this 403 error.
#826 [07:53] <ItsCriminal> on login?
#827 [07:54] <newguybr> THere is only 1 time that it didn't .
#828 [07:54] <Spiderone> Hello there, I got a problem with minecraft. I cannot join any server (I tried four different servers). When I join one, my internet connection crashes and I got a connection lost, I just have the time to see the sky and the welcome message of the server. I tried to reinstall Minecraft and Java. Dunno what to do, does anyone can help me, please?
#829 [07:54] <newguybr> No. After the login.
#830 [07:54] <newguybr> Let me paste the error message from Java.
#831 [07:54] <ItsCriminal> but not in here :D
#832 [07:54] <ItsCriminal> http://pastebin.com/ <-- use that
#833 [07:55] <newguybr> hahah. Cool. I was not going to paste something big. :)
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#835 [07:56] <newguybr> http://pastebin.com/j1fgyvzg
#836 [07:57] <ItsCriminal> how i would say something is wrong with you skin
#837 [07:58] <newguybr> Yeah, I thought that too, but then I tried to make another login. Same error.
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#843 [08:52] <OODavo> !check 92.137.48.151
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#848 [09:08] <Razorin> Hello
#849 [09:10] <LatHans> !check lat.no
#850 [09:10] <Razorin> Excuse me, is it possible to both run a server from your computer and connect to this server to play ?
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#853 [09:22] <MID> hello
#854 [09:23] <MID> anyone online who has experiense with server administrator
#855 [09:24] <MID> anyone on?
#856 [09:26] <MID> needed help plx!!
#857 [09:27] <LatHans> MID: if you ask a direct question, you might get an answer:)
#858 [09:27] <LatHans> what do you really want to know?
#859 [09:27] <MID> allright but it seem strange yelling in the open
#860 [09:28] <LatHans> then don't:)
#861 [09:28] <MID> i want to know how to admin my from i3d rented private server as in: spawn stuff generate map with user settings and reset spawn point etc.
#862 [09:30] <LatHans> I don't know anything about those rented servers, but in general, for such things to work, you will need a server mod like bukkit (craftbukkit) and some plugins that lets you do such things, like essentials and worldedit
#863 [09:30] <LatHans> you can check what kind of server that is running by typing version in the server, or /version in the client
#864 [09:31] <MID> typing /version ingame?
#865 [09:31] <LatHans> yes, while connected to your server
#866 [09:41] <BarryCarlyon> MID since its a rented server, your better off asking your server provider.
#867 [09:41] <MID> they have no clue
#868 [09:42] <BarryCarlyon> Well they are providing the server. They must know how to administer it.
#869 [09:42] <MID> they say i have to use a third person client to edit the server
#870 [09:42] <BarryCarlyon> Is the server provider a specific Minecraft hoster? Or generic?
#871 [09:42] <BarryCarlyon> IE was minecraft pre installed or did you ahve to download/upload it yourself?
#872 [09:42] <MID> yes i3d 10 ppl minecraft server
#873 [09:43] <BarryCarlyon> Then they should know. Beacuse you never know what crap a private renter server has on it.
#874 [09:43] <MID> hmm
#875 [09:43] <BarryCarlyon> But to edit spawns and stuff you need to download the world folder eidt it with MCedit or similar and reupload
#876 [09:44] <BarryCarlyon> And /version does't work for me.
#877 [09:44] <MID> but how do i enter my own server as admin
#878 [09:45] <BarryCarlyon> You connect and /op yourself. Or you edit the ops.txt file
#879 [09:45] <MID> k ill try
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#883 [09:57] <mib_stvpua> Can someone tell me how to make myself an admin on my server?\
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#885 [10:00] <BarryCarlyon> Yes but you left.
#886 [10:00] <xgrimxmind> can someone tell me how to turn ppl into admins on a server?
#887 [10:01] <BarryCarlyon> xgrimxmind: there are two ways.
#888 [10:01] <BarryCarlyon> You can do /op username in client
#889 [10:01] <BarryCarlyon> or op username in the console
#890 [10:01] <BarryCarlyon> or you can edit ops.txt
#891 [10:01] <xgrimxmind> ok how do i do that
#892 [10:01] <BarryCarlyon> (thats three Ican't cunt)
#893 [10:01] <xgrimxmind> the ops.txt edit thing
#894 [10:01] <xgrimxmind> lol
#895 [10:01] <BarryCarlyon> What os?
#896 [10:02] <xgrimxmind> the op
#897 [10:02] <BarryCarlyon> What OS = Operating System.
#898 [10:02] <xgrimxmind> what do i put in that note pad dc?
#899 [10:02] <BarryCarlyon> What operating system is you server on?
#900 [10:02] <xgrimxmind> ohh
#901 [10:02] <xgrimxmind> windows 7
#902 [10:02] <xgrimxmind> i think
#903 [10:02] <xgrimxmind> yes its windows 7
#904 [10:02] <BarryCarlyon> In the same folder as your server gui file is a txt file called ops.txt
#905 [10:03] <xgrimxmind> ok
#906 [10:03] <BarryCarlyon> In opts.txt edited with notepad one username per line
#907 [10:03] <xgrimxmind> what do i do with it
#908 [10:03] <BarryCarlyon> edit*
#909 [10:03] <xgrimxmind> ok
#910 [10:03] <xgrimxmind> now what?
#911 [10:04] <BarryCarlyon> Save file close notepad restart server
#912 [10:04] <BarryCarlyon> profit
#913 [10:05] <xgrimxmind> sir, ithinka u very much
#914 [10:05] <xgrimxmind> thank*
#915 [10:05] <BarryCarlyon> No problem
#916 [10:05] <xgrimxmind> i cant spell
#917 [10:05] <xgrimxmind> what can i do as an admin now?
#918 [10:06] <BarryCarlyon> do /help in client and find out
#919 [10:06] <xgrimxmind> thanks
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#922 [10:11] <sluggo> Anyone fancy helping me?
#923 [10:11] <BarryCarlyon> Don't ask to ask just ask.
#924 [10:11] <sluggo> Okay.
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#926 [10:11] <sluggo> After a few minutes playing on minecraft, i will get disconnected from the server.
#927 [10:12] <sluggo> And then disconnected from my whole internet.
#928 [10:12] <deem> Hello, can anyone tell me how to run a classic creative server? (incl. getting the right program/script) :)
#929 [10:12] <sluggo> I have heard that changing the size of transmit buffers on a network adapter will help this
#930 [10:12] <BarryCarlyon> Sounds like your router is over loading sluggo
#931 [10:12] <BarryCarlyon> !server
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#933 [10:12] <BarryCarlyon> deem: all details ^^
#934 [10:12] <sluggo> however, my network adapter does not support the changing of that
#935 [10:12] <deem> thank you :)
#936 [10:12] <BarryCarlyon> Tho not sure about classic these days.
#937 [10:12] <sluggo> well what should i do?
#938 [10:12] <BarryCarlyon> Check http://minecraft.net/servers.jsp deem
#939 [10:13] <BarryCarlyon> sluggo: get a better router :-P beyond that no idea. Its not a minecraft problem.
#940 [10:13] <IceGuest_75> Question.
#941 [10:13] <IceGuest_75> If I may.
#942 [10:13] <BarryCarlyon> Shoot IceGuest_75 .
#943 [10:13] <sluggo> Do you not find that a tad ignorant seeing as it works with everything else but minecraft?
#944 [10:13] <sluggo> There are many threads on it.
#945 [10:13] <sluggo> All without solutions
#946 [10:13] <sluggo> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=40386 for example
#947 [10:14] <BarryCarlyon> sluggo: if you played any other multi player online game the same would occur I think.
#948 [10:14] <sluggo> Nope.
#949 [10:14] <sluggo> Never.
#950 [10:14] <IceGuest_75> Well, after hours of self inflicted malice. I managed to Get a server running. Now, I need to find a way to reset the server
#951 [10:14] <sluggo> minecraft only
#952 [10:14] <BarryCarlyon> IceGuest_75: define reset.
#953 [10:14] <BarryCarlyon> sluggo: /me shrugs
#954 [10:14] <IceGuest_75> I Do NOT have the Server_level.dat file.
#955 [10:14] <IceGuest_75> As in, my freinds are dicks, and blew up my world. So i need a new one
#956 [10:15] <BarryCarlyon> To make a new world just delete the conents of the world folder.
#957 [10:15] <IceGuest_75> Would it be in the .Minecraftserver folder?
#958 [10:15] <BarryCarlyon> My server is set up to take half hourly backups. Tho thats a cronjob script.
#959 [10:15] <BarryCarlyon> IceGuest_75: its in the same folder as the minecraft server launcher
#960 [10:16] <IceGuest_75> I haven't been able to find it.
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#962 [10:16] <BarryCarlyon> How do you start your server then?
#963 [10:16] <IceGuest_75> From an EXE i downloaded off Minecraft.net
#964 [10:17] <BarryCarlyon> The world folder is in the same folder as that exe.
#965 [10:17] <deem> BarryCarlyon does that Zip file contain the classic creative server stuff? I mean when i run the exe which was linked before its the "modern" server and this jsp is the classic?
#966 [10:17] <BarryCarlyon> deem 'sec
#967 [10:17] <IceGuest_75> It's not in the file where the Exe is.
#968 [10:18] <IceGuest_75> And there isn't a world folder on my computer.
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#970 [10:18] <BarryCarlyon> IceGuest_75: I'm assuming said exe file is called minecraft_server.exe
#971 [10:18] <BarryCarlyon> !classic
#972 [10:18] <IceGuest_75> Yeah
#973 [10:19] <BarryCarlyon> IceGuest_75: got server.propeties file there?
#974 [10:20] <BarryCarlyon> deem minecraft.net has a classic server software download link of http://www.minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip I think that will help. I'd have to see if there is a classic setup page on the minecraft wiki
#975 [10:20] <IceGuest_75> Nothing by that name exists on my computer
#976 [10:21] <IceGuest_75> Unless your refering to the Server Doc where i enter my IP, port and such.
#977 [10:21] <BarryCarlyon> IceGuest_75: there you are not running the server on that computer it would appear.
#978 [10:21] <BarryCarlyon> Yes that.
#979 [10:21] <BarryCarlyon> Open that and check what it says against world
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#981 [10:22] <IceGuest_75> Nothing.
#982 [10:22] <jdrenning21> Hello
#983 [10:22] <jdrenning21> I need some help
#984 [10:22] <IceGuest_75> There's no world line there.
#985 [10:22] <BarryCarlyon> IceGuest_75: http://pastebin.com/ paste me the contents and send me the url for the result page.
#986 [10:22] <BarryCarlyon> jdrenning21: ask away
#987 [10:22] <jdrenning21> My Client gives a black screen and closes
#988 [10:23] <jdrenning21> with an hs_err_pid text document
#989 [10:23] <BarryCarlyon> What OS jdrenning21?
#990 [10:23] <jdrenning21> XP SP3
#991 [10:23] <BarryCarlyon> Has it always done this or just recently?
#992 [10:23] <deem> Barry i was just curious because now i have 2 server "programs" one is the jsp from the zip file and one is the .exe file - i´ll stick to the jsp then :) thank you very much :)
#993 [10:23] <jdrenning21> I have never been able to run it on this computer
#994 [10:23] <IceGuest_75> http://pastebin.com/vycXzw5N
#995 [10:23] <BarryCarlyon> deem: cool not sure which is classic over beta tho.
#996 [10:23] <BarryCarlyon> deem always better to run the jsp too :-D nogui is win
#997 [10:24] <BarryCarlyon> jdrenning21: have you got the latest version of java and are all your graphics/sound drivers up to date?
#998 [10:24] <jdrenning21> yes
#999 [10:24] <jdrenning21> I have Java 6 update 23
#1000 [10:24] <jdrenning21> and I updated my video drivers
#1001 [10:25] <BarryCarlyon> Try removing all of minecraft and reinstalling/redownloading.
#1002 [10:25] <jdrenning21> ok
#1003 [10:25] <BarryCarlyon> IceGuest_75: one sec
#1004 [10:26] <IceGuest_75> No worries, I`ve got time.
#1005 [10:26] <IceGuest_75> And thanks for your help so far
#1006 [10:27] <jdrenning21> it still closed
#1007 [10:27] <jdrenning21> hs_err_pid2200
#1008 [10:28] <BarryCarlyon> Hmm without a level-name it should revert to World. You can try to find the existing world by looking for a folder called players of a file called your_minecraft_username.dat failing that to create a new world just add level-name=somename to your server.properties that will starta freshworld in somename folder
#1009 [10:28] <BarryCarlyon> jdrenning21: can you open the contents of hs_err_pid2200 in notepad?
#1010 [10:28] <BarryCarlyon> and pastebin the contents
#1011 [10:29] <jdrenning21> ok
#1012 [10:29] <BarryCarlyon> unless its all goddlygook
#1013 [10:29] <jdrenning21> no its text
#1014 [10:29] <BarryCarlyon> Coolio
#1015 [10:31] <jdrenning21> http://pastebin.com/h0pS0sd2
#1016 [10:32] <IceGuest_75> For the record
#1017 [10:32] <IceGuest_75> If the file name is simple "Server"
#1018 [10:32] <IceGuest_75> Will that fly?
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#1020 [10:33] <BarryCarlyon> IceGuest_75: yah but I'd go for something like IceGuestWorld to help distinguish it
#1021 [10:33] <BarryCarlyon> jdrenning21: I can't see anything obvious, try running it as an administrator.
#1022 [10:34] <jdrenning21> i dont know the admin password
#1023 [10:34] <IceGuest_75> Both options failed.
#1024 [10:34] <deem> hmm any time someone wants to connect to the server there´s a message: "You need to login" in the console
#1025 [10:34] <deem> and whoever wants to login is kicked immediately
#1026 [10:35] <IceGuest_75> I added what you said into the server file thing, but when i tried to load the server, it was the same.
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#1028 [10:35] <BarryCarlyon> IceGuest_75: is it popping up with a gui/window the server launcher I mean?
#1029 [10:36] <BarryCarlyon> deem hmm. I'm assuming everyone trying to connect has paid? Or I think you running a beta server over a classic.
#1030 [10:36] <BarryCarlyon> I don't know much about classic I'm beta myself
#1031 [10:37] <jdrenning21> BarryCarlyon how do I run as admin if I am not the admin
#1032 [10:37] <deem> hm they did pay yes
#1033 [10:37] <IceGuest_75> This is what pops up when I start the server http://pastebin.com/p3PMUu6Y
#1034 [10:37] <BarryCarlyon> jdrenning21: right click run as admin.
#1035 [10:37] <IceGuest_75> It's in a java created window thing.
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#1037 [10:38] <jdrenning21> BarryCarlyon I need the admin password for that
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#1039 [10:38] <jdrenning21> I dont know it
#1040 [10:38] <BarryCarlyon> jdrenning21: ah
#1041 [10:38] <BarryCarlyon> IceGuest_75: that is still trying to use world. one sec
#1042 [10:42] <BarryCarlyon> ok IceGuest_75 do a search on your machine for the folder called players
#1043 [10:43] <BarryCarlyon> And/or pastebin your current config again so I can check you did it right
#1044 [10:44] <IceGuest_75> http://pastebin.com/4xi5eGCr
#1045 [10:44] <IceGuest_75> I did the search, all that came up was a bunch of random java crap, and a file called banned players
#1046 [10:44] <BarryCarlyon> Hmm thats right.
#1047 [10:45] <BarryCarlyon> I wonder if its loading a different server.properties
#1048 [10:46] * BarryCarlyon shrugs and is stumped
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#1049 [10:46] <IceGuest_75> I'm about to shoot something in the face
#1050 [10:46] <IceGuest_75> Second.
#1051 [10:46] <jdrenning21> Is there something I could do besides run as admin
#1052 [10:47] <IceGuest_75> Okay
#1053 [10:47] <IceGuest_75> So
#1054 [10:47] <BarryCarlyon> jdrenning21: I don't know enough java to debug your error message any further.
#1055 [10:47] <IceGuest_75> I have NO FUCKING CLUE how i did that
#1056 [10:47] <jdrenning21> ok
#1057 [10:47] <IceGuest_75> But it's fixed.
#1058 [10:47] <jdrenning21> thanks for trying
#1059 [10:47] <BarryCarlyon> IceGuest_75: woot.
#1060 [10:47] <IceGuest_75> Much love, Thanks a ton for all your help
#1061 [10:47] <BarryCarlyon> No problem
#1062 [10:47] <IceGuest_75> Big hearts you sexy beast.
#1063 [10:47] <BarryCarlyon> o.0
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#1066 [10:55] <deem> hmm
#1067 [10:55] <deem> ok now ... it´s the classic version for sure (the zip file) but now i cant find server.properties... where is that file located? o.O
#1068 [10:56] <xales> the server generates it when you run it
#1069 [10:56] <deem> found it! i just did and it popped ^^
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#1071 [11:00] <mid> guys i have rented a minecraft server from i3d and i want to spawn items on that server and do admin stuff but i have no clue what to do and how to do it
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#1074 [11:02] <xales> mid: you have to make yourself an op
#1075 [11:02] <mid> also if i join my server i cant build or dig near spawn point. and i want to turn that off
#1076 [11:02] <xales> add yourself to the ops.txt file or use their control panel
#1077 [11:02] <xales> as for turning that off, you would need to use a mod
#1078 [11:02] <mid> command /op doesnt work
#1079 [11:02] <xales> /op only works if you are an op
#1080 [11:03] <mid> ok
#1081 [11:03] <xales> you need to add yourself to the server's ops.txt file
#1082 [11:03] <mid> i opened opt.exe and its empty
#1083 [11:04] <xales> not opt.exe
#1084 [11:04] <xales> ops.txt
#1085 [11:04] <mid> yes sry thats what i ment
#1086 [11:04] <xales> it should be empty; you need to add your name to it
#1087 [11:04] <mid> only name
#1088 [11:05] <mid> ? not opt name or something
#1089 [11:05] <xales> no, just your name
#1090 [11:06] <mid> ok and then?
#1091 [11:06] <xales> save it
#1092 [11:06] <xales> and restart the server
#1093 [11:07] <mid> ok i have a rented server so i prob. have to upload it to ftp
#1094 [11:07] <mid> n then restart server
#1095 [11:08] <mid> and how about reset spawn point or make spawnpoint buildable?
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#1097 [11:10] <xales> mid: you need to use a map editor to move the spawn
#1098 [11:11] <xales> and a server mod to make it buildable
#1099 [11:11] <xales> there is probably a Bukkit plugin to do that
#1100 [11:15] <mid> istnt there a set spawn command?
#1101 [11:15] <xales> no, that is a command provided by mods
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#1103 [11:16] <Kaya> any singaporeans here?
#1104 [11:17] <BarryCarlyon> xales: I answered the same questions for the same user not more than an hour ago :-P
#1105 [11:17] <nevercast> Hey fogWraith
#1106 [11:17] <mid> i have tried downloading some mods etc. like zimor admin tootls, mcedit mineedit. but i have no clue how to use them or set them to my server?
#1107 [11:18] <xales> BarryCarlyon: ._.
#1108 [11:18] <nevercast> mid, That's not what we deal with here at #MineCraftHelp.
#1109 [11:18] <xales> mid: those aren't server mods, to behin with
#1110 [11:18] <xales> you are looking for something like Bukkit
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#1112 [11:19] <mid> ok bukkit im strartin dl
#1113 [11:19] <nevercast> xales, perhaps he should join #bukkit ?
#1114 [11:20] <xales> nevercast, indeed
#1115 [11:21] <nevercast> mid, type /join #bukkit
#1116 [11:21] <nevercast> mid, into mibbit.
#1117 [11:21] <nevercast> xales, how're you this morning? Or when ever the timezone places you.
#1118 [11:22] <xales> yeah, morning
#1119 [11:22] <xales> 11:22AM
#1120 [11:22] <xales> I'm OK, I suppose, just got up
#1121 [11:24] <nevercast> Yeah just got up myself.
#1122 [11:24] <nevercast> 5:24am here/
#1123 [11:25] <nevercast> damn my desktop is noisy
#1124 [11:25] <nevercast> I need to get me riva tuner
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#1126 [11:29] <nevercast> xales, I guess it's Sunday for you then?
#1127 [11:30] <xales> yeah
#1128 [11:31] <nevercast> xales, Monday here. Got course.
#1129 [11:31] <nevercast> Not feeling that motivated to be honest
#1130 [11:31] <xales> =/
#1131 [11:31] <nevercast> considering the massive digital clock I'm building on Kealpers server.
#1132 [11:31] <nevercast> I'd rather be Minecrafting at the moment
#1133 [11:32] <exp0> I saw that then I died.
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#1137 [11:38] <Code7R> I have a question regarding long range redstone lines? Dies anyone have a minute?
#1138 [11:39] <xales> What's the question?
#1139 [11:39] <Code7R> Thanks. I'm trying to send a long range signal from one house on my server to another, so it's really long range
#1140 [11:40] <Code7R> For now, the sending side is connected to a 5 clock, so I see the blinking
#1141 [11:40] <Code7R> if I move too far from the sending house, the blinking just stops. I guess the sender is kind of "out of range"
#1142 [11:41] <xales> Yeah - the chunk its on gets unloaded when you move away, and stuff on it doesn't get processed (such as redstone)
#1143 [11:41] <Code7R> As I suspected.
#1144 [11:41] <Code7R> Question: Is there any way around that? Like maybe extending that range...
#1145 [11:41] <Code7R> changing some server setting...
#1146 [11:42] <xales> it's a really bad thing to change, and you would need heavy modding to change it
#1147 [11:42] <xales> even changing it a bit would make the server us significantly more RAM
#1148 [11:42] <Code7R> Makes sense
#1149 [11:43] <Code7R> So I guess I can go pick up a lot of redstone. ;-)
#1150 [11:44] <Code7R> Thanks.
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#1152 [11:47] <nevercast> xales, you can send signals with redstone?
#1153 [11:47] <xales> "signal" = active redstone
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#1155 [11:52] <nevercast> Fucken Creeper just blew up my chests
#1156 [11:52] <nevercast> Now I have like over 1000 items floating about and I'm getting 1fps
#1157 [11:52] <nevercast> and I bet that it's rounding up
#1158 [11:54] <nevercast> Kealper's server is going to die
#1159 [11:55] <nevercast> WTF
#1160 [11:55] <Kealper> my server is probably doing fine lol
#1161 [11:56] <nevercast> well I right click on a chest and it takes ages to load :P
#1162 [11:56] <Kealper> it's got loads of power, and it doesn't have to graphically render all that stuff, it just has to have it in ram and work with it when it's needed
#1163 [11:56] <nevercast> Kealper, Is it possible you could get a protection module or something?
#1164 [11:56] <Kealper> clientside lag....but i could check my server's cpu usage right now lol
#1165 [11:56] <Kealper> protection from?
#1166 [11:56] <nevercast> Kealper, Because someone has emptied my chests of ladders and wood, and filled it with armour
#1167 [11:57] <nevercast> From people touching my shit while I'm trying to construct this massive clock :D
#1168 [11:57] <Kealper> can't do that with stdio :/
#1169 [11:57] <Kealper> but, since you and aetherian are the only ones who know where your stuff is....
#1170 [11:58] <nevercast> Nope
#1171 [11:58] <nevercast> Godley knows and a couple other people that telli'd to us
#1172 [11:58] <nevercast> afaik
#1173 [11:58] <nevercast> Although I trust godley
#1174 [11:58] <Kealper> well, godley knows better, so it would not have been him
#1175 [11:58] <nevercast> However he must'ive spawned the 500 armour lol.
#1176 [11:59] <nevercast> FUCK
#1177 [11:59] <nevercast> another creeper
#1178 [11:59] <nevercast> and I can't teleport back
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#1180 [11:59] <Kealper> :o
#1181 [11:59] <nevercast> Kealper, X:1790, Y:73, Z:-1410
#1182 [11:59] <SmashShock> Guys, how do I get a play.jsp url for my Classic Server?
#1183 [11:59] <nevercast> Can you teli me?
#1184 [11:59] <Kealper> no, there currently is no way to tele by coords :/
#1185 [12:00] <SmashShock> Hello?
#1186 [12:00] <Kealper> i wonder if jeb is on any medium of chat so i can bug him about adding that
#1187 [12:00] <nevercast> NBTEdit ftw :(
#1188 [12:00] <SmashShock> Guys.
#1189 [12:00] <nevercast> SmashShock, YES?
#1190 [12:00] <SmashShock> How do I get a play.jsp url for my Classic Server?
#1191 [12:00] <Kealper> SmashShock: uhh....it will be in "externalurl.txt" in your server's directory
#1192 [12:01] <SmashShock> k.
#1193 [12:01] <SmashShock> NOthing is in there.
#1194 [12:01] <SmashShock> Nothing*
#1195 [12:01] <Kealper> and the server is running?
#1196 [12:02] <SmashShock> Yeah. I'm running MCLawl
#1197 [12:02] <nevercast> O.o
#1198 [12:02] <Kealper> oh...mclawl.....no idea
#1199 [12:02] <SmashShock> Its the same as the normal server, continue.
#1200 [12:02] <Kealper> no, it's a totally different server
#1201 [12:02] <nevercast> Kealper, We need to make it clear that mods are a problem for us.
#1202 [12:02] <SmashShock> :\
#1203 [12:02] <Kealper> 100% not the original server, and i don't know how to work it
#1204 [12:02] <nevercast> Kealper, Slash 3rd party tools / server.
#1205 [12:03] <Kealper> nevercast: already in the channel rules that no one in here is entitled to support for mods/3rd party software
#1206 [12:03] <SmashShock> Well, If I was running the original server, what would I do next?
#1207 [12:03] <nevercast> Kealper, Who reads rules?
#1208 [12:03] <nevercast> SmashShock, It'd have your play.jsp link in there i'd imagine
#1209 [12:03] <nevercast> and you'd put that on your website
#1210 [12:04] <Kealper> if you were running the original server, it would literally be as easy as opening "externalurl.txt" and copying what was in it
#1211 [12:04] <SmashShock> hrm.
#1212 [12:04] <Kealper> but i also know that as of late, custom servers have been having issues with the recent website changes
#1213 [12:04] * nevercast goes off and pouts about being 1000's of miles away from home.
#1213 [12:04] <nevercast> Kealper, Is /goto a wrapper?
#1214 [12:04] <nevercast> slash module
#1215 [12:04] <SmashShock> Did I mention that I'm using No-IP
#1216 [12:05] <nevercast> SmashShock, That doesn't make a difference
#1217 [12:05] <SmashShock> :\
#1218 [12:05] <Kealper> nevercast: if you really want me to, i can hard edit the .dat file....
#1219 [12:05] <nevercast> Kealper, Please? :)
#1220 [12:05] <Kealper> but you will have to be offline for it to take effect
#1221 [12:05] <nevercast> Disconnected now
#1222 [12:05] <nevercast> Kealper, Does the Goto command have a wrapper?
#1223 [12:06] <nevercast> Kealper, Think you could add a /blockgoto
#1224 [12:06] <Kealper> the /goto and /summon are just wrappers for the /tp command
#1225 [12:06] <nevercast> preventing people teli'ing to me.
#1226 [12:06] <nevercast> Being summoned by an admin is fine.. but having just anyone teli to me
#1227 [12:06] <Kealper> hmm...that would be interesting
#1228 [12:06] <nevercast> annoys me. Without a protection mod at least
#1229 [12:07] <nevercast> I spend about 10 hours online. It takes only a couple minutes for someone that thinks it's funny to fuck with everything you've worked on
#1230 [12:07] <Kealper> maybe....something like you have to have equal to or greater than the target's permission level to teleport
#1231 [12:07] <nevercast> yeah
#1232 [12:07] <nevercast> Wait that wouldn't work
#1233 [12:07] <nevercast> because aetherian would still teli to m :P
#1234 [12:07] <nevercast> *me
#1235 [12:07] <Kealper> and i could just set your permission level way up so only VIPs, Mods, and Ops could tp to you
#1236 [12:07] <nevercast> He can damn well walk
#1237 [12:08] <nevercast> Oh that works too
#1238 [12:08] <Kealper> i'll look in to that after i edit this file
#1239 [12:08] <nevercast> Thanks Kealper.
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#1241 [12:09] <Kealper> oh great
#1242 [12:09] <Kealper> the positions in this file are not labled....
#1243 [12:09] <Mathuin> Any of you people good with MCEdit? It's being a pain in my ass.
#1244 [12:09] <Kealper> so...i'll try this, but you could end up stranded lol
#1245 [12:10] <nevercast> Kealper, just assume xyz
#1246 [12:10] <Kealper> that's what i'm doing
#1247 [12:10] <nevercast> :)
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#1249 [12:10] <Kealper> give it a go
#1250 [12:10] <nevercast> Uhh WTF
#1251 [12:10] <nevercast> Where the fuck are my smokes
#1252 [12:11] <nevercast> /nerdrage
#1253 [12:11] <Kealper> dog walked off with them?
#1254 [12:11] <nevercast> found 'em
#1255 [12:12] <nevercast> seems all the stuff I died with has vanished. Meh.
#1256 [12:12] <nevercast> I can probably get some of it back.. hopefully
#1257 [12:12] <nevercast> maybe
#1258 [12:12] <nevercast> Thanks Kealper :)
#1259 [12:13] <nevercast> I've gotta go now or I'll miss my bus lol.
#1260 [12:13] <Kealper> i should really make a thing that kicks a user then modifies their coords
#1261 [12:14] <nevercast> Kealper, Want me to make a command line tool that modifies that NBT files just like you can with windows registry keys via console?
#1262 [12:14] <Kealper> i think that would make life easier for everyone lol
#1263 [12:14] <nevercast> Haha :)
#1264 [12:15] <nevercast> well I made a C# library for NBT files
#1265 [12:15] <nevercast> fully functionary
#1266 [12:15] <nevercast> *functional
#1267 [12:15] <nevercast> lol.
#1268 [12:15] <nevercast> Loading, Editing, Cloning and Saving all complete.
#1269 [12:15] <Kealper> i will look in to making a function that can convert big-endian binary into little-endian binary though...that's really the main issue i'd have :/
#1270 [12:15] <nevercast> That's easy
#1271 [12:16] <nevercast> Create a for loop that iterates the bytes of a number
#1272 [12:16] <Mathuin> Kealper: what language? You can probably get away with ntohl() and friends if it's C
#1273 [12:16] <nevercast> and reverses them
#1274 [12:16] <nevercast> IPAddress.ToNetworkAddress
#1275 [12:16] <nevercast> or something
#1276 [12:16] <nevercast> in C#
#1277 [12:16] <nevercast> But yeah, just need to get bytes ( bitwise operation to array ? )
#1278 [12:16] <nevercast> Then flip em
#1279 [12:16] <Mathuin> What nevercast said. Folks solved this problem thirty years ago. :-)
#1280 [12:16] <nevercast> bye people.
#1281 [12:16] <nevercast> course tyme
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#1283 [12:18] <deem> here i am again ... anyone experienced with editing? my goal is pretty simple, i´d like to generate stone on an 7000x4000x1 area
#1284 [12:18] <Kealper> MCEdit
#1285 [12:19] <deem> using that but it seems it doesnt "create" those blocks ... or is it not able to generate bedrock on a level above 5?
#1286 [12:19] <Mathuin> deem: you can do that with mce.py or MCEdit.
#1287 [12:19] <Kealper> although 7000x4000 is unreasonably massive
#1288 [12:19] <Mathuin> Why do you want a twenty-eight million block field?
#1289 [12:19] <deem> it´s for a project
#1290 [12:19] <Mathuin> What kind of project?
#1291 [12:20] <Mathuin> I mean, the only stuff I have on that scale is mapping Yellowstone National Park. :-P
#1292 [12:20] <Kealper> lol
#1293 [12:20] <deem> we wanna rebuild something that has such an area covered ... we wanna rebuilt a castle and the area (an island) is 4km x 7km wide
#1294 [12:21] <deem> so we wanna have that covered ... its just the basis we built everything on
#1295 [12:21] <Kealper> it will litearlly take like 20 minutes or more to walk that 7km lenght :/
#1296 [12:21] <deem> thats ok :)
#1297 [12:22] <Mathuin> deem: if you can find a real-life island in the United States, I can make you a map based on that real island. You're responsible for ore and anything underground, but the rest I can do.
#1298 [12:22] <Kealper> i've got a minecart track that is about 3km long, and even using boosters to get it going stupid fast the entire trip, it still takes 5-10 min :/
#1299 [12:22] <Mathuin> Kealper: one of my fantasies is to download the USGS transportation layer, and put minecart tracks where interstates are. :-)
#1300 [12:23] <Kealper> :o
#1301 [12:23] <deem> all i have for that "picture" is following: http://www.wotmud.org/directory/maps/tarvalonmap.gif
#1302 [12:23] <deem> the island there is said to be 4km x 7km wide
#1303 [12:24] <feenyx> ooooh
#1304 [12:24] <feenyx> Tar'Valon
#1305 [12:24] <deem> yes :)
#1306 [12:25] <Mathuin> Alas, if you want a real fictional place like Narnia, Mordor, or this Tar'Valon, you'll have to create the height map and land cover yourself.
#1307 [12:26] <Mathuin> However, my engine will cheerfully build from your maps. :-)
#1308 [12:28] <Kealper> Mathuin: could you use that to make a map just like the area i live in? (sans civilization, ofcourse)
#1309 [12:28] <Mathuin> Kealper: the tool takes in latlongs from the United States.
#1310 [12:28] * Kealper gets em
#1310 [12:28] <deem> hmm i do need the "ground" located on level 14
#1311 [12:29] <Kealper> MCEdit can easily do what you are asking
#1312 [12:29] <deem> everything above level 14 will be "created" by ourselves the part below might just be "random"
#1313 [12:29] <deem> how do i do that properly in mcedit then?
#1314 [12:30] <deem> i selected a huge area and wanted to fill it with stone but its pretty unprecise ... can i somehow say "make it 4000x7000x1?
#1315 [12:30] <deem> on maplvl 14
#1316 [12:31] <Mathuin> Kealper: If you lived at 42'30"N 72'45"W, you'd use a command like ./GetDatabase.py --region MyHouse --ymax 42.30 --ymin 42.60 --xmin -72.95 --xmax -72.55. Once you got the region, ./WarpElev.sh --region MyHouse >>>
#1317 [12:31] <Kealper> replace the entire area you want to use with air, then go back and make the first floor layer of what is left stone
#1318 [12:31] <Mathuin> Kealper: followed by ./BuildImages.py --region MyHouse and ./BuildWorld.py --region MyHouse --world Worlds/MyHouse (or /home/user/.minecraft/saves/World1 or whatever)
#1319 [12:32] <Mathuin> deem: you can also use mce.py to do what you want from the command line.
#1320 [12:37] <deem> thats the cmd part of it right?
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#1322 [12:39] <Mathuin> deem: yes.
#1323 [12:39] <deem> btw isnt it better to create a world and just make that? i´m currently loading maps and it seems to be much more work with deleting many blocks
#1324 [12:40] <Kealper> you might just be able to make a whole new map and place the spawn point for it whereever you want
#1325 [12:41] <Kealper> i've never tried just creating a whole new map from scratch in MCEdit
#1326 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Can't do that in MCedit
#1327 [12:41] <Kealper> oh, darn
#1328 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Map needs to already be generated
#1329 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> It'a a map editor, not generator
#1330 [12:41] <Kealper> bah
#1331 [12:41] <Mathuin> Kealper: in mce.py, I was able to do it by 'mkdir monkey && touch monkey/level.dat && mce.py monkey'
#1332 [12:42] <Kealper> having a program touch your monkey? that's horrible!
#1333 [12:42] <Kealper> :P
#1334 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1335 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, is back
#1336 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#1337 [12:42] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.561 Seconds.
#1338 [12:42] <Kealper> wb
#1339 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Yay, greybot didn't die
#1340 [12:43] <deem> why is there the "create world" option?
#1341 [12:43] <Mathuin> deem: that's once you're in the program, and you can do it there too.
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#1343 [12:44] <Mathuin> Anyway, once you're there, try 'createChunks (0, 0, 0), (40, 70, 128)' and 'fill Stone (0, 0, 0), (40, 70, 5)' and 'spawn (20, 35, 6)' :-)
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#1345 [12:45] <Mathuin> Don't forget ot 'save'.
#1346 [12:45] <deem> currentyl not responding (selected a huuuge area to create chunks) :)
#1347 [12:45] <Mathuin> That's why I *told* you to start small.
#1348 [12:45] <Mathuin> Nobody listens! :-)
#1349 [12:46] <deem> i was busy! :O
#1350 [12:46] <Kealper> o.o
#1351 [12:46] <Mathuin> Once you're ready to try something *ten thousand times* the size of my simple example... have fun. ;_)
#1352 [12:46] * GreyVulpine snerks
#1352 [12:46] <deem> selecting stuff with gui in an empty room is somehow difficult ^^
#1353 [12:46] <Mathuin> An important thing to keep in mind -- you'll want a buffer zone around that area, so you'll probably end up wanting something roughly four times the original area.
#1354 [12:47] <Mathuin> [empty room] My original complaint which brought me here today.
#1355 [12:47] <deem> :D
#1356 [12:47] <Mathuin> Another thing: you will very quickly realize that "full scale" sucks butt.
#1357 [12:48] <Kealper> copyboy needs to get on so i can ask him how to use his NamedBinaryTag.dll
#1358 [12:49] <Mathuin> Okay, IRC is too spammy, interfering with my fantasy of fixing my bugs.
#1359 [12:49] <Mathuin> Back in a few hopefully to find beta testers.
#1360 [12:49] * GreyVulpine pffts
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#1361 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> beta testers...?
#1362 [12:49] * GreyVulpine reads up.
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#1363 [12:50] <deem> another problem... -.-
#1364 [12:51] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: Mathuin is making a program that gets the USGS stats on a given longitude/latitude pair and generates a minecraft map out of it
#1365 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> Oh neat
#1366 [12:51] <Kealper> so you could say.....punch in your town's coords, it would get all the topgraphical/images from your area and then make a minecraft map that looks just like it
#1367 [12:51] <Kealper> sans buildings/roads, ofcourse
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#1370 [12:56] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper
#1370 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> Don't suppose you know why "marten01" is banned from here
#1371 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> *!*@212.112.39.228
#1372 [12:57] <Kealper> was that me?
#1373 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't say
#1374 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> Autoban from esper
#1375 [12:58] <Kealper> in what, the akick stuff?
#1376 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> I don't think anybody has used an akick yet here
#1377 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> probably was overwritten from a netsplit or something
#1378 [12:59] <Kealper> i think xales has an akick active for aetherian right now....lol
#1379 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Oh goodie
#1380 [12:59] * GreyVulpine checks akick list
#1380 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Whoa, there's 4 akick entries...
#1381 [13:00] <Kealper> lol... "(Rage in the kiddie pool but not here)"
#1382 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Nope, no akick for aeth
#1383 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> [03:32.02am] xales sets mode: +b *!*@75-30-114-218.lightspeed.arlhil.sbcglobal.net
#1384 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> [03:32.02am] * aetherian was kicked by xales (Banned for 1 day (86,400 seconds =/) - automatic unban)
#1385 [13:00] <Kealper> hmm...he told me he set one for him incase he tried banevading
#1386 [13:00] <Kealper> guess he removed it
#1387 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Ah, kay
#1388 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> I take it you all are in agreement about DopeGhoti's status?
#1389 [13:02] <Kealper> i don't mind, he seems responsible and trustworthy
#1390 [13:02] <Kealper> you gonna add him to AOP?
#1391 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> I'll add him to aop then
#1392 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow, #hey0's been dead for days.. /parts
#1393 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> And what happened to idlerpg?
#1394 [13:04] <Kealper> :o
#1395 [13:04] <Kealper> what do you mean?
#1396 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> It's not... oh, it's not voiced/opped
#1397 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> Greybot hasn't heard anything from it in a day or so
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#1399 [13:05] <Kealper> it looks like it DCed last night
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#1401 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#1402 [13:07] <Kealper> i feel like a nerd right now
#1403 [13:08] <Kealper> random Jumpstyle techno just came up on my random playlist in my Winamp....i'm ssh'd to a linux box talking on irc....on my second monitor...
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#1405 [13:08] * Kealper sighs
#1405 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Well, I'm going to clear some of these channel bans.
#1406 [13:09] <Kealper> yeah, that is a ton in there, last i checked there was only like 12 :/
#1407 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> Those are the ones from dream.esper.net
#1408 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> I'll leave the last two there, freebnc and axxim
#1409 [13:10] <Kealper> what was up with dream.esper having all those bans in there?
#1410 [13:10] <Kealper> did it just freak out one day or something?
#1411 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> Probably a netsplit or a server reset, services set the ban
#1412 [13:11] <Kealper> stupid services
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#1414 [13:16] <deem> it is normal that it takes time to create the chunks right? :)
#1415 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#1416 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> a few seconds in game
#1417 [13:16] <deem> and in the editor?
#1418 [13:17] <Kealper> i just had a stroke of genious
#1419 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> Which editor?
#1420 [13:17] <deem> mcedit
#1421 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> Mcedit makes chunks?
#1422 [13:17] * GreyVulpine loads up MCedit
#1422 [13:17] <deem> i currently create those yes
#1423 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> Since when did MCedit have the ability to make chunks...
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#1425 [13:18] * GreyVulpine looks
#1425 [13:18] <Mantas7776> minecraft classic down?
#1426 [13:18] <Kealper> all this talk of changing binary endian-ness.....i can use autoit's epic high-level stuff to do the converting for me :o
#1427 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1428 [13:18] <deem> when you select an "empty" area outside the rendered map you can select the thing on the very right
#1429 [13:18] <Mantas7776> minecraft classic down?
#1430 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes Mantas7776
#1431 [13:18] <Mantas7776> :[
#1432 [13:18] <Mantas7776> why
#1433 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Website's down
#1434 [13:18] <Mantas7776> but my friend connected to one server
#1435 [13:18] <deem> and in the menue on the left you get the option to create chunks
#1436 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Has been going up and down all day
#1437 [13:18] <Mantas7776> website is up
#1438 [13:18] <Mantas7776> dont lie
#1439 [13:18] <Mantas7776> :D
#1440 [13:18] <Mantas7776> and i played minecraft 1 hour ago
#1441 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Fine, don't listen to me then
#1442 [13:19] <Mantas7776> and how i connected my bot
#1443 [13:19] <Mantas7776> to server?
#1444 [13:19] <Kealper> bot?
#1445 [13:19] <Kealper> connect?
#1446 [13:19] <Kealper> i?
#1447 [13:19] <Mantas7776> yes?
#1448 [13:19] <Kealper> what is this demonspawn you speak?
#1449 [13:20] <Kealper> ok, in all seriousness now
#1450 [13:20] <Mantas7776> wtf is demonspawn?
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#1452 [13:20] <Kealper> what was the bot for? irc? minecraft?
#1453 [13:20] <Mantas7776> for building
#1454 [13:20] <Mantas7776> :D
#1455 [13:20] <Mantas7776> minecraft
#1456 [13:20] <Kealper> they have bots for making stuff?
#1457 [13:20] <Mantas7776> this bot like cuboid
#1458 [13:20] <Mantas7776> if u dont have admin
#1459 [13:20] <Mantas7776> u can use
#1460 [13:20] <Mantas7776> that
#1461 [13:20] * Kealper headtilts
#1461 [13:21] <Mantas7776> but only on classic
#1462 [13:21] <Mantas7776> there no bots on beta
#1463 [13:21] <Mantas7776> :D
#1464 [13:21] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: have you heard of such sorcery?
#1465 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Oh, one of those bots
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#1467 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Yes Kealper
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#1469 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Huh, neat, MCedit does have Chunk creation
#1470 [13:21] <Mantas7776> in the morning
#1471 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> And I just crashed mine
#1472 [13:21] <Mantas7776> all right was
#1473 [13:21] <deem> well
#1474 [13:21] <Mantas7776> :/
#1475 [13:21] <Mathuin> GreyVulpine: yeah, it's required for schematics, at least.
#1476 [13:22] <deem> it says not responding?
#1477 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Schematics has nothing to do with generating more chunks
#1478 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Yeah deem
#1479 [13:22] <deem> check out the cmd
#1480 [13:22] <Mathuin> GreyVulpine: if you read the code, you'll see it does.
#1481 [13:22] <deem> might still be working only the gui does not react
#1482 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Well, I sorta kinda did a quick selection..
#1483 [13:22] <Mantas7776> why notch not gets better host?
#1484 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Not knowing it selected 11k chunks to be created
#1485 [13:23] <Mathuin> Hee. :-)
#1486 [13:23] <Mantas7776> why notch not gets better host?
#1487 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Mantas7776 - He is looking into it
#1488 [13:23] <Kealper> he tried Amazon but we broke them
#1489 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Please don't repeat your question.
#1490 [13:23] <Mathuin> Is anyone here good enough with MCEdit to make a simple schematic for me?
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#1492 [13:23] <deem> creating 160k chunks
#1493 [13:23] <Mathuin> I have a world. It has a building. I want a schematic of the building.
#1494 [13:23] * GreyVulpine gags
#1494 [13:23] <Mathuin> This is driving me nuts. Please. :-(
#1495 [13:23] <Mantas7776> ping minecraft.net
#1496 [13:23] <Mantas7776> Pinging minecraft.net [50.16.203.217] with 32 bytes of data:
#1497 [13:23] <Mantas7776> Request timed out.
#1498 [13:23] <Mantas7776> Request timed out.
#1499 [13:23] <Mantas7776> Request timed out.
#1500 [13:23] <Kealper> deem: that is going to take AGES
#1501 [13:23] <deem> maybe
#1502 [13:24] <Mantas7776> lol
#1503 [13:24] <deem> or ... for sure, but ...
#1504 [13:24] <Kealper> brotip: don't spam
#1505 [13:24] <deem> i wanna know how long it will take actually
#1506 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> ICMP replies are denied, for obvious reasons
#1507 [13:24] <Kealper> heavily depends on your system specs lol
#1508 [13:24] <Mathuin> deem: I create 100 chunks a second, usually.
#1509 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> omg
#1510 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> I hate you too Greybot
#1511 [13:24] <Kealper> GreyBot!!!
#1512 [13:24] <Therealaug> How often is minecraft usually down for?
#1513 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> It has been going up and down for weeks
#1514 [13:24] <deem> so thats 1600 seconds
#1515 [13:24] <Therealaug> like is this a weekly thing? monthly?
#1516 [13:25] <Mantas7776> 1 day
#1517 [13:25] <Therealaug> thankz grey
#1518 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> It's been constant ever since they migrated to amazon's cloud
#1519 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Back in... december?
#1520 [13:25] <Kealper> i don't think they are on the cloud right now
#1521 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> They still are
#1522 [13:25] <deem> i dont know how long it takes me to create 100 chunks tho :(
#1523 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Brb, I'm going to reboot this machine
#1524 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully it'll fix greybot's crashing
#1525 [13:26] <Mathuin> deem: this is why you should have made a smaller world first. :-P
#1526 [13:26] <Mantas7776> i know how to play multiplayer minecraft then minecraft.net down
#1527 [13:26] <deem> i´m too stubborn i fear :(
#1528 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Mantas7776 - There's nothing we can do about it.
#1529 [13:28] <deem> i´m off to eat something ... i guess i have enough time for that
#1530 [13:28] <deem> ^^
#1531 [13:28] <Mathuin> Keep a watch on your computer's memory.
#1532 [13:28] <Mathuin> If you run out -- which I totally bet you will -- your computer will get v. sad.
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#1534 [13:29] <deem> thank you for that advice!
#1535 [13:29] <deem> it´s not at 50% yet
#1536 [13:29] <Mantas7776> is there any way to get ban form minecraft?
#1537 [13:29] <Kealper> Mantas7776: the game itself?
#1538 [13:29] <Mantas7776> yes
#1539 [13:29] <Kealper> not really, no
#1540 [13:29] <Mantas7776> if cheating
#1541 [13:29] <Mantas7776> :D
#1542 [13:30] <GV> Then you'll get banned from that particular server
#1543 [13:30] <GV> not from minecraft.net
#1544 [13:30] <Kealper> even if you chargeback your payment, it will still only just reduce your account back to unpaid
#1545 [13:30] <deem> delete it and block the website
#1546 [13:30] <deem> = ban
#1547 [13:30] <Mantas7776> so u can get back ur money
#1548 [13:30] <Kealper> you can't really get that though
#1549 [13:30] <Mantas7776> if u boutgh minecraft?
#1550 [13:30] <Mantas7776> and then
#1551 [13:30] <Mantas7776> u lose minecraft?
#1552 [13:30] <Mantas7776> cool
#1553 [13:30] <GV> Um. No?
#1554 [13:30] <Kealper> unless you like...drove over to Stockholm and punched Notch in the face or something....lol
#1555 [13:31] <Mantas7776> :D
#1556 [13:31] <GV> You have a week to request a refund at the point you purchased minecraft
#1557 [13:31] <GV> After that, you're out of luck
#1558 [13:31] <Mantas7776> What to do if minecraft bored? Request refund :D
#1559 [13:31] <GV> bored?
#1560 [13:31] <Mantas7776> ?
#1561 [13:31] <deem> dont think you get banned for that since he doesnt have your username when you punched him ... could leave a card but then again you might only setting that up to get someone else banned
#1562 [13:32] <Kealper> true.....
#1563 [13:32] <GV> That sentence didn't make any sense
#1564 [13:32] <Kealper> lol
#1565 [13:32] <Mantas7776> i cant connect to minecraft.net
#1566 [13:32] <deem> well my english isnt that good i know ... but i do think you can get through it ;)
#1567 [13:32] <Mantas7776> but cant get server list
#1568 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> Mantas7776: "Hey, I bought your game and enjoyed it for months but now I'm tired of it. Can I have my money back?" will probably not get you a refund, no.
#1569 [13:32] <Mantas7776> and play
#1570 [13:32] <Mantas7776> on server
#1571 [13:32] <Kealper> he's saying if you ran up and punched Notch, he would not know who you were to ban you...so you could just say "I'm such and such!" and then such and such would get owned for your deed
#1572 [13:33] <Mathuin> Eh, I imagine a picture would come into play, and a million angry Minecrafters would figure out where you lived.
#1573 [13:33] <GV> Dope - Made you an aop. Grats. You have access to akick now.
#1574 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> Wahey!
#1575 [13:33] <Mantas7776> akick
#1576 [13:33] <Mantas7776> omg
#1577 [13:33] * DopeGhoti pledges to use his powers only for good, and not comedy.
#1577 [13:33] <Mantas7776> dont akick me
#1578 [13:33] <Mantas7776> :D
#1579 [13:34] <Mantas7776> hate akicks
#1580 [13:34] <Mantas7776> :/
#1581 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> (unless it's really good comedy)
#1582 [13:34] <Kealper> and yet....you will never get to see chanserv +o you, becuase it's slow :/
#1583 [13:34] <Kealper> because*
#1584 [13:34] <GV> Lies!
#1585 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> Mantas7776: you get akicked a lot, do you?
#1586 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I'm already wearing my magic @.
#1587 [13:34] <Mantas7776> yep
#1588 [13:34] <Mantas7776> D
#1589 [13:34] <Mantas7776> on another server
#1590 [13:34] * GV kicks DopeGhoti to see if chanserv aops
#1590 [13:34] <Mathuin> [magic @] Hah!
#1591 [13:34] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: yeah, but i mean AuBot ninjas chanserv so hard it's not even funny, so you won't see your +o come from chanserv lol
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#1594 [13:35] <GV> O.o
#1595 [13:35] <Kealper> .set mode DopeGhoti -o
#1596 [13:35] <GV> Stupid chanserv.
#1597 [13:35] <Kealper> again
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#1601 [13:35] <Mantas7776> lol
#1602 [13:35] <Kealper> .set mode DopeGhoti +o
#1603 [13:35] <GV> That's.. rather sad
#1604 [13:35] <Kealper> isn't it?
#1605 [13:35] <aimbot> the community mod pack, how do you run that on a server? is it all just client side?
#1606 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> Neat; a self-awaring magic @ (:
#1607 [13:35] <GV> Community mod pack?
#1608 [13:35] <GV> Could you clarify? Or give us a link?
#1609 [13:35] <Mantas7776> omg
#1610 [13:35] <Mantas7776> just connected to server
#1611 [13:35] <deem> isnt every mod client side?
#1612 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> aimbot: we don't support mods here; try in the mod's forum thread or IRC channel.
#1613 [13:36] <aimbot> yea, just a pack full of a bunch of different mods
#1614 [13:36] <aimbot> whats the irc channel
#1615 [13:36] <GV> Depends on the mods
#1616 [13:36] <Mantas7776> AGIAN DOWN
#1617 [13:36] <Mantas7776> FUCK
#1618 [13:36] <Kealper> .auth DopeGhoti 1
#1619 [13:36] <Mantas7776> IM ON SERVER
#1620 [13:36] <Mantas7776> YAY
#1621 [13:36] <Mantas7776> :D
#1622 [13:36] <GV> Some mods are clientside, some are server-side, some *can* be both
#1623 [13:36] <deem> what mod is not client side?
#1624 [13:36] <Mathuin> The one real mod I want to make is server-side.
#1625 [13:37] <aimbot> whats the modding irc channel
#1626 [13:37] <Mantas7776> agian down
#1627 [13:37] <Mantas7776> NOO
#1628 [13:37] <GV> Depends on the mod you want support for
#1629 [13:37] <GV> If you give us some information to go on, we could point you in the right direction
#1630 [13:37] <aimbot> ok one sec
#1631 [13:38] <Kealper> ok DopeGhoti, you got power over AuBot's most ghetto module, some basic commands are .part and .join, .part will leave the channel the command was issued in if you don't specify a channel
#1632 [13:38] <GV> If the community modpack is this:
#1633 [13:38] <GV> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=124219
#1634 [13:38] <GV> Most of them are clientside only
#1635 [13:38] <GV> Mo'creatures is clientside, but can be run off the server if all the clients have it too
#1636 [13:39] <GV> The rest, I see are either client-side only, or I've never heard of them... assume client-side only
#1637 [13:39] <aimbot> yea thats the one
#1638 [13:39] <aimbot> alright, i guess all i can be is wrong, thanks for the help
#1639 [13:39] <GV> For support, either post in that thread.. or maybe check out #risucraft
#1640 [13:40] <GV> I don't know if they'll give you support there though
#1641 [13:40] <aimbot> alright
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#1644 [13:41] <GV> O.o
#1645 [13:41] <Kealper> o.o
#1646 [13:41] <GV> Oh, right, other machine
#1647 [13:41] <Kealper> lol
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#1649 [13:41] <Mathuin> Heh!
#1650 [13:42] <GV> !ping
#1651 [13:42] <GreyBot> GV Your Ping time was 0.22 Seconds.
#1652 [13:42] <Mantas7776> !зштп
#1653 [13:42] <Mantas7776> !ping
#1654 [13:42] <Mantas7776> !ping
#1655 [13:42] <GreyBot> Mantas7776 Your Ping time was 0.461 Seconds.
#1656 [13:42] <Mantas7776> !ping
#1657 [13:42] <GreyBot> Mantas7776 Your Ping time was 0.111 Seconds.
#1658 [13:43] <Voki> good idea
#1659 [13:43] <Voki> !ping
#1660 [13:43] <GreyBot> Voki Your Ping time was 0.561 Seconds.
#1661 [13:43] <Mantas7776> !ping
#1662 [13:43] <GreyBot> Mantas7776 Your Ping time was 0.42 Seconds.
#1663 [13:43] <Voki> oh hell
#1664 [13:43] <Mantas7776> -
#1665 [13:43] <Mantas7776> [GreyBot PING]
#1666 [13:43] <Kealper> also, just incase you were wondering, the person on said permission (access to commands, auto mode, etc) has to match on both nickanme, username, and hostname
#1667 [13:43] <Mantas7776> !version
#1668 [13:43] <Kealper> if you guys say ping once more it's an instant 1 day ban
#1669 [13:43] <Mathuin> Hahaha.
#1670 [13:43] <Mantas7776> :o
#1671 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> you all are sapping Kealper's patience (:
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#1673 [13:44] <Mathuin> 25 tiles for my new test world, 4 cores, 40 seconds per tile, that's two minutes, I can go get somethign to eat.
#1674 [13:44] <Mantas7776> im good scripter on mirc
#1675 [13:44] <Mantas7776> :d
#1676 [13:44] <Voki> it's a wonderful P...Th...ing
#1677 [13:44] <Kealper> >.>
#1678 [13:44] * GV hasn't done mIRC scripting in years
#1678 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> Mantas7776: there's no such thing as a good mIRC script. They're all evil. Like clowns.
#1679 [13:44] <GV> Last time I touched Greybot's scripts was back in.. '05
#1680 [13:45] <Mantas7776> :D
#1681 [13:45] <Kealper> lol GV
#1682 [13:45] <Mantas7776> after windows reinstall
#1683 [13:45] <Mantas7776> i lose all my work
#1684 [13:45] <Mantas7776> on scripts
#1685 [13:45] <Mantas7776> ://
#1686 [13:45] <GV> Should've uploaded them to some mIRC script sites
#1687 [13:46] <DopeGhoti> That's what backups are for. And stories set in the before-time are what the "past tense" is for.
#1688 [13:46] <GV> I remember being a regular at hawkee and mircscripts and such
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#1690 [13:46] <Mantas7776> hate channels without colors :[
#1691 [13:46] <Kealper> i love them
#1692 [13:46] <DopeGhoti> Mantas7776: Love channels without colours.
#1693 [13:47] <Kealper> colours....that's so...british...lol
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#1695 [13:47] <Voki> lol ;)
#1696 [13:48] <Kealper> i actually had to make an alias for /color in my chat program because of this austrailian regular in it kept typing /colour lol
#1697 [13:48] <bildramer> lol
#1698 [13:48] <Mantas7776> I like turtles
#1699 [13:48] <exp0> lol
#1700 [13:48] <Kealper> i love lamp
#1701 [13:48] <Mantas7776> OMG
#1702 [13:49] <Mantas7776> i connected into server
#1703 [13:49] <Mantas7776> and firefox crash
#1704 [13:49] <Mantas7776> WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYy
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#1706 [13:49] <GV> They both hate you
#1707 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> Mantas7776: This channel is for assistance with technical problems, not for a moment-by-moment commentary on everything Mantas7776 is doing.
#1708 [13:49] <GV> And are conspiring against you
#1709 [13:49] <Mantas7776> really?
#1710 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> Really.
#1711 [13:49] <Mantas7776> why?
#1712 [13:49] <exp02> this isn't Twitter
#1713 [13:50] <Mantas7776> but its facebook
#1714 [13:50] <Mantas7776> :)
#1715 [13:50] <exp02> no it isn't
#1716 [13:50] * DopeGhoti starts warming up his magic @
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#1717 [13:50] <exp02> this is irc
#1718 [13:50] <Mantas7776> then skype
#1719 [13:50] <Mantas7776> or msn
#1720 [13:50] <Mantas7776> Hey
#1721 [13:50] <Mantas7776> Hey exp0
#1722 [13:50] <Mantas7776> Hey exp02
#1723 [13:50] <Mantas7776> Hey
#1724 [13:51] <Mantas7776> Hey exp02
#1725 [13:51] <Voki> its irc, its an help channel
#1726 [13:51] <exp02> yes?
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#1729 [13:51] <Voki> do not spam pleas
#1730 [13:51] <Mantas7776> You look fruity
#1731 [13:51] <Voki> e
#1732 [13:51] <exp02> lolownes
#1733 [13:51] <Fengrim> Im trying to create a public server for me and a friend, but I cant seem to locate the server.properties file, do anyone know what folder or file its located in?
#1734 [13:51] <Kealper> Mantas7776: stop being retarded or i will perminantly ban you
#1735 [13:51] <GV> Fengrim - It generates once you run the server for the first time
#1736 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> Fengrim: the file is created the first time you.. yeah, that.
#1737 [13:51] <GV> Same directory where you have the server
#1738 [13:52] <Fengrim> I thougth i had to set it up first, clicking the start server gives me "java is not recognized as an internal or external command"
#1739 [13:52] <Kealper> Fengrim: first....do you have Java installed?
#1740 [13:53] <GV> Then java isn't in your environment variables
#1741 [13:53] <Kealper> second: if yes, what version of windows do you have?
#1742 [13:53] <Fengrim> I should have Java, I can play the game just fine
#1743 [13:53] <Kealper> ok then
#1744 [13:53] <Fengrim> oh, im on Windows 7 64 bit
#1745 [13:53] <Kealper> go to the start menu search bar
#1746 [13:53] <Kealper> type env
#1747 [13:54] <Kealper> "Edit enviroment variables" blah should come up
#1748 [13:54] <Kealper> open that, you should be at a window called Enviroment Variables
#1749 [13:54] <Fengrim> Alrigth
#1750 [13:55] <Kealper> ok, see the top section, the one for your user enviroment variables?
#1751 [13:55] <Mathuin> Okay, I'm importing my crappy imperfect schematic via mce.py but I can't do it in my code. *cries*
#1752 [13:55] <Kealper> is there one in there called PATH?
#1753 [13:55] <Fengrim> hm, only ones I can see there is TEMP and TMP
#1754 [13:56] <Kealper> ok, click the new button
#1755 [13:56] <GV> Kealper - Don't you mean the bottom system variables one?
#1756 [13:56] <Kealper> GV user one does not need admin privs
#1757 [13:56] <GV> Ah.
#1758 [13:56] <Kealper> and still gets the job done
#1759 [13:57] <Kealper> Fengrim: name the new one PATH
#1760 [13:57] <Fengrim> Alrigth
#1761 [13:57] <Kealper> for the value that it will ask for, make it C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin;
#1762 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: you sure he doesn't have the right one installed?
#1763 [13:58] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: that's what the next test i was about to type is for lol
#1764 [13:59] <Kealper> Fengrim: once you see that PATH variable in your user variables, open cmd
#1765 [13:59] <Fengrim> Done
#1766 [13:59] <Kealper> in that cmd window, type java -vesion
#1767 [13:59] <Kealper> damnit
#1768 [13:59] <Kealper> java -version
#1769 [14:00] <Kealper> if it says something other than command not found, then it worked
#1770 [14:00] <Fengrim> Seems all good then, it shows the current version and some other stuff
#1771 [14:00] <Kealper> ok then, you should be good to go
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#1773 [14:00] <Fengrim> Cheers Kealper, really appreciate it :)
#1774 [14:00] <Kealper> np
#1775 [14:05] <Kealper> i wish i could throw this 2gb sd card into my router for use as swap lol
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#1777 [14:06] <Mathuin> Depending on the brand, you might be able to do that.
#1778 [14:06] <Mathuin> Some Linksys routers have unpopulated USB headers. Some careful soldering could attach a USB->SDcard converter.
#1779 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> Make sure it's a class VI card.
#1780 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> also.. if your router needs swap space, *you're doing it wrong*.
#1781 [14:07] <Kealper> Mathuin: mine has an unpopulated serial port on it's board
#1782 [14:07] <Mathuin> s/your router/you/
#1783 [14:07] <Kealper> but i don't have a soldering iron :/
#1784 [14:07] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: who's router doesn't need 2 gigs of swap? lol
#1785 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> ..mine?
#1786 [14:08] <Kealper> mine does :/
#1787 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> -/+ buffers/cache: 1431 2532
#1788 [14:09] <Kealper> it's got 8mb of ram instead of the usual 16mb that other WRT-54G routers have....so i don't have the ram to have a huge ip table :/
#1789 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> currently using 140 swap on the inactive SQL server.
#1790 [14:09] <Shadow386> god damn you minecraft
#1791 [14:09] <Kealper> gotta have it set at 1024....which is quite easy to fill up if you're doin it right :<
#1792 [14:10] <Kealper> and the router starts crapping out at about 1020 connections, if you can hit 1024, the router has already used all it's available ram, and is dead in the water anyways
#1793 [14:10] <Mathuin> Out of curiosity, how do you make a thousand connections on a residential router?
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#1795 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: one computer can make several connections.
#1796 [14:11] <Kealper> i can get about 700 open connections from my main computer alone if i don't be careful :/
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#1798 [14:11] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: I'm intimately familiar with the concept. Many web sites will distribute their images across several names to increase parallel loading. But a *thousand*?
#1799 [14:11] <Mathuin> The only time I've come close to that was with BitTorrent.
#1800 [14:11] <Kealper> i never said it was from browsing
#1801 [14:11] <Kealper> ^
#1802 [14:11] * Kealper coughs
#1802 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: some people have 45 tabs open in several browsers, plus bittorrent.
#1803 [14:12] <Mathuin> Kealper: I know you didn't, I was just giving an innocent example.
#1804 [14:12] <Josh> I just got MineCraft yesterday and played it all day with 2 texture packs installed with no problems. When i tried to start the game today it keeps crashing after the Mojang Screen.
#1805 [14:12] <Mathuin> Any time I get past about 12 tabs, I can't keep track of them all.
#1806 [14:13] <Kealper> i download loads of documentaries, most of which use bittorrent since it's such an efficient means of transfer...if i don't watch what i'm doing, i can easily crap out my router :/
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#1808 [14:13] <Awair> Hello
#1809 [14:13] <Kealper> ello
#1810 [14:13] <Fengrim> Hm, when we try to connect to the server it says /kicking <IP> you need to login first
#1811 [14:14] <Mantas7776> !ping
#1812 [14:14] <GreyBot> Mantas7776 Your Ping time was 0.4 Seconds.
#1813 [14:14] <Kealper> but man, if i had the money....i've got an old 1.3ghz celeron here that would love to be my new router
#1814 [14:14] <Kealper> Mantas7776: what did i tell you earlier?
#1815 [14:14] <Mantas7776> I have 8 gb ram and 4 gb video card
#1816 [14:14] <Awair> I have a big problem
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#1818 [14:14] <Mathuin> Fengrim: the server requires the user to log into Minecraft. If the minecraft.net server is having trouble, chaos ensues.
#1819 [14:14] <Kealper> my router has 8mb of ram and a 0b video card
#1820 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> Awair: could you elaborate?
#1821 [14:15] <Mantas7776> :D
#1822 [14:15] <Mantas7776> i have router for 200$
#1823 [14:15] <Fengrim> Ah, so this is not caused by our settings? Sorry but im horribly bad at this stuff
#1824 [14:15] <Awair> When I create my account minecraft I do not know that it would name that was multi
#1825 [14:15] <Mantas7776> dlink dir-655
#1826 [14:15] <Mathuin> Fengrim: it does not appear to be caused by your settings.
#1827 [14:15] <Awair> So my name is my name and Multi name and it's embarrassing
#1828 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> Awair: Presently there is no mechanism for changing your username.
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#1830 [14:16] <Fengrim> Cheers Mathuin, just wait it out i guess :)
#1831 [14:16] <Mathuin> Fengrim: that's what I'm thinking.
#1832 [14:17] <exp0> ar430w is a decent cheap router with ddwrt
#1833 [14:17] <Mathuin> There may be a way to disable the check -- someone here may know better.
#1834 [14:18] <Fengrim> Ah that wont be necesarry, I just want to setup something really quick and easy for me and a friend to build on casually, so no rush. I'll wait for the server to work
#1835 [14:18] <Kealper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124190 i want to get this
#1836 [14:18] <Josh> My game keeps crashing, http://pastebin.com/q2us8E4y.
#1837 [14:19] <Kealper> Josh: update your graphics drivers
#1838 [14:19] <Kealper> http://ati.com
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#1840 [14:19] <Josh> i already tried, it still keeps crashing
#1841 [14:19] <Kealper> hmm...
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#1843 [14:20] <Kealper> tried updating Java?
#1844 [14:20] <Josh> yup
#1845 [14:20] <Josh> it was working fine yesterday
#1846 [14:20] <Kealper> deleted the .minecraft/bin folder?
#1847 [14:20] <Josh> yeah, and tried a new install
#1848 [14:20] <Kealper> did anything change since yesterday?
#1849 [14:20] <Josh> nope
#1850 [14:20] <Kealper> got antivirus software?
#1851 [14:20] <Josh> yeah, AVG
#1852 [14:20] <Kealper> disable it, try again
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#1856 [14:25] <Josh> this might seem silly, but i can't seem to actually turn off AVG, i can turn off my firewall fine.
#1857 [14:25] <Kealper> oh, the joys of AVG
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#1859 [14:26] <ItsCriminal> i never liked it
#1860 [14:26] <Josh> any other ideas to make it work?
#1861 [14:26] <Kealper> and i'm not well-versed in that specific antivirus program (i would never let it touch my computers with a 10 foot pole) i don't know how to disable it :/
#1862 [14:26] <|System|> Anyone know why my router wont let any connections though?
#1863 [14:26] <Josh> it was running yesterday when the game was running fine
#1864 [14:26] <exp0> Microsoft security essentials is good
#1865 [14:26] <|System|> And i have done port forwarding
#1866 [14:27] <Kealper> there seems to be an increase in ATI OpenGL drivers throwing errors as of late...
#1867 [14:27] <Josh> as in today?
#1868 [14:27] <Kealper> |System|: are you sure you have everything forwarded correctly? (can you connect to the ip that you put the forward in to?)
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#1870 [14:28] <Kealper> Josh: not today, but just lately
#1871 [14:28] <|System|> I can connect locally but not though the ip
#1872 [14:28] <Kealper> within the past few weeks
#1873 [14:28] <Josh> this is too bad, i have no idea what it is then
#1874 [14:28] <exp0> you may have forwarded to the wrong up or port
#1875 [14:28] <Kealper> |System|: when you say locally, do you mean with localhost, 127.0.0.1, or with an address like 192.168?
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#1877 [14:29] <|System|> 192.168.1.2
#1878 [14:29] <Kealper> also, |System| have you changed your server.properties at all?
#1879 [14:29] <|System|> Nope
#1880 [14:29] <exp0> or even your firewall is blocking it
#1881 [14:29] <|System|> All clean
#1882 [14:29] <Kealper> ^
#1883 [14:29] <Kealper> hmm
#1884 [14:29] <|System|> Firewall is off cause im trying it though a vurtual OS
#1885 [14:29] <exp0> firewall love to block the outside world
#1886 [14:30] <Mathuin> Doing the virtual thing does wacky stuff to networking in general and NAT in particular.
#1887 [14:30] <Mathuin> I've had to fight through three levels of NAT while dealing with Virtualbox for work. :-(
#1888 [14:30] <exp0> so a virtual OS isn't letting it work.
#1889 [14:30] <Mathuin> If you can ssh into the server from your desktop, you have a chance.
#1890 [14:30] <Kealper> Josh: i'm not sure how to fix these atioglxx.dll errors, either....heck, one guy even had issues with that dll (ATI OpenGL version x.x DLL) on an intel card o.o
#1891 [14:31] <exp0> if you don't have vtagging, you might hate VMs
#1892 [14:31] <|System|> I have also tried it on here (physical OS) and no success
#1893 [14:31] <exp0> Intel drivers love to mess up
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#1896 [14:32] <Killazer> Guys, anyone who can help me with GERUDOKU's texturepack, drop me a chat
#1897 [14:32] <|System|> I can do a TV
#1898 [14:33] <|System|> If you want to help me out
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#1900 [14:33] <|System|> kealper
#1901 [14:33] <Kealper> hmm?
#1902 [14:33] <exp0> killazer did you read the instructions?
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#1904 [14:33] <|System|> Do you have TV?
#1905 [14:33] <Killazer> exp0
#1906 [14:33] <Killazer> yea but
#1907 [14:33] <Killazer> i'll pm you
#1908 [14:34] <Kealper> |System|: not on the machine i'm using right now
#1909 [14:34] <|System|> Dang
#1910 [14:34] <exp0> ok
#1911 [14:34] <|System|> I only trust people who have Voice or above
#1912 [14:34] <|System|> like you have OP so your trust worthy
#1913 [14:34] <Kealper> ok now i'm on a machine that does
#1914 [14:35] <|System|> Can i PM you?
#1915 [14:35] <Kealper> go for it
#1916 [14:35] <exp0> I don't have op, but I am honest
#1917 [14:35] <|System|> one sec
#1918 [14:36] <exp0> but then again, I haven't gotten deep into MC yet
#1919 [14:38] <Killazer> Anyone good with texture packs? Especially Gerudokus?
#1920 [14:38] <ItsCriminal> i cant connect minecraft.net, i want to play
#1921 [14:39] <ItsCriminal> worked
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#1923 [14:41] <Killazer> Anyone good with texture packs? Especially Gerudokus?
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#1925 [14:44] <|System|> !check
#1926 [14:44] <Kealper> hmm
#1927 [14:46] <|System|> !check
#1928 [14:46] <|System|> GGR
#1929 [14:46] <|System|> GGR
#1930 [14:46] <|System|> !check
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#1936 [14:56] <Mathuin> How do I get minecraft_server.jar to use an arbitrary directory for the world dir instead of ./world ?
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#1938 [14:58] <Mjiig> has anyone done an up to date study of the science of mob spawning?
#1939 [14:58] <Mjiig> the one linked to by the wiki is slightly out of date
#1940 [15:01] <Fengrim> is the .net server still having the flue?
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#1942 [15:05] <SkiingPenguins> Mathuin: edit the server properties
#1943 [15:05] <Mathuin> SkiingPenguins: capital idea. Where are they?
#1944 [15:05] <SkiingPenguins> ... in the folder your server is run from
#1945 [15:06] <SkiingPenguins> if you've run the server before then it should be in there
#1946 [15:07] <Mathuin> SkiingPenguins: I haven't, which is why I want to.
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#1948 [15:09] <Mathuin> I apologize if that isn't clear. I have a directory of worlds -- World/Here, World/There, etc. I want to know if there's some kind of command-line argument or something like this: java -jar Xmxs1024 blah blah -world World/Here minecraft_server.jar
#1949 [15:10] <Fengrim> !check
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#1951 [15:10] <BarryCarlyon> Mathuin: you don't you would need multiple copies of minecraft and server.properties
#1952 [15:13] <Fengrim> Hm, is this also becouse of the .net serve or something else? "Failed to assemble heartbeat: java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 503"
#1953 [15:14] <Kealper> Fengrim: means the server could not ping minecraft.net
#1954 [15:15] <Fengrim> Blimey, guess i'll have to get back to it tomorrow then, thanks for all the info
#1955 [15:18] <Kealper> does anyone want to see what happens when i get bored? lol
#1956 [15:18] <SkiingPenguins> maybe
#1957 [15:19] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/snow-test.exe <-- if you do trust me enough to download/run that, you can close it at any time by right clicking it's icon in the system tray and selecting "Exit"
#1958 [15:19] <Kealper> but it is rather entertaining for atleast 5 minutes
#1959 [15:20] <SkiingPenguins> lol thats so cool
#1960 [15:20] <BarryCarlyon> I would if I was on Windows.
#1961 [15:20] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper can i see code please? :D
#1962 [15:20] <Kealper> it might run fine under Wine
#1963 [15:20] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: do you know AutoIt?
#1964 [15:20] <SkiingPenguins> no but i can understand AHK a little :D
#1965 [15:21] <Kealper> AHK is pretty different as far as syntax goes, AHK took AutoIt's source a LOOOONG time ago lol
#1966 [15:21] <Kealper> lemme get the source from my other comp
#1967 [15:21] <SkiingPenguins> we talked about this
#1968 [15:21] <Mjiig> Kealper: what does it do?
#1969 [15:21] <Kealper> Mjiig: just makes snow fall over top of your desktop/program windows
#1970 [15:21] <Mjiig> nice
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#1972 [15:22] <Mjiig> can i have a look at the code?
#1973 [15:22] <weirdo> hello errbody
#1974 [15:22] <Kealper> getting it right now
#1975 [15:22] <SkiingPenguins> so pretty :O
#1976 [15:23] * DopeGhoti is reading Snow Crash at the moment. Heh.
#1976 [15:23] <weirdo> is anybody able to help me set up a simple server for me and a few friends to play on? I have most of it down I think
#1977 [15:24] <SkiingPenguins> weirdo what do you not know how to do?
#1978 [15:24] <Kealper> ok, found the source on my other computer, throwing it on pastebin, gimme a sec
#1979 [15:24] <weirdo> well I started upt he server and I can connect using localhost, but what ip do I give to people to connect exactly
#1980 [15:24] <Mathuin> Yay I think I got the stupid schematic!
#1981 [15:24] <SkiingPenguins> weirdo you give people the address shown here: http://www.whatismyip.com/
#1982 [15:24] <Mathuin> Now to get the stupid schematic to post!!
#1983 [15:25] <weirdo> ok, if I give you the ip can you try connecting?
#1984 [15:25] <Kealper> http://kealper.pastebin.com/UDEYziSL <-- post expires in 10 min, get it while it's hot!
#1985 [15:25] <SkiingPenguins> yes
#1986 [15:25] <Mantas7776> WHY WEB DAUN?
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#1989 [15:25] <weirdo> 99.188.201.191
#1990 [15:25] <Mjiig> weirdo: if the server is behind a router you'll need to port forward as well
#1991 [15:25] <weirdo> also what ip is that called exactly like I know there is internal external and all that stuff
#1992 [15:25] <SkiingPenguins> !check 99.188.201.191
#1993 [15:25] <Mantas7776> WHY WEB DAUN?
#1994 [15:25] <SkiingPenguins> weirdo that is your external ip
#1995 [15:25] <Kealper> Mantas7776: seems to be working fine?
#1996 [15:26] <weirdo> ok
#1997 [15:26] <Mantas7776> not server list
#1998 [15:26] <SkiingPenguins> and your server works
#1999 [15:26] <weirdo> so it works?
#2000 [15:26] <Mantas7776> and classic
#2001 [15:26] <weirdo> awesome
#2002 [15:26] <Kealper> Mantas7776: because mollstam broke it, blame him >:D
#2003 [15:26] <Mantas7776> RLY?
#2004 [15:26] <Mantas7776> FUCK HIM
#2005 [15:26] <Mantas7776> ip ban
#2006 [15:26] <Mathuin> Language language.
#2007 [15:27] <weirdo> penguins can you actually join it though and run around for a few seconds and let me know if there is lag with like breaking a block or something
#2008 [15:27] <Mantas7776> i want have fun on mc classic
#2009 [15:27] <Mantas7776> with bots
#2010 [15:27] <Mantas7776> :D
#2011 [15:27] <Mathuin> Man this better work or I'm gonna have to kick a puppy.
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#2013 [15:27] <SkiingPenguins> haha Kealper i see what you did there :P
#2014 [15:27] <Kealper> cheap tricks, but that is what a few minutes of boredom gets ya
#2015 [15:27] <SkiingPenguins> weirdo i cannot play online sorry
#2016 [15:27] <Mantas7776> so
#2017 [15:27] <Mantas7776> then going classic work?
#2018 [15:27] <weirdo> no problem ill try someone else really fast
#2019 [15:27] <Kealper> not right now Mantas7776
#2020 [15:27] <weirdo> anyone else willing to connect to my server and walk around a bit
#2021 [15:28] <weirdo> a bit being about one minute lol
#2022 [15:28] <Kealper> i will if no one is on my mc server, i'd hate to lag them
#2023 [15:28] <weirdo> ok
#2024 [15:28] <Mathuin> wierdo: I was able to log into your server. It's night time.
#2025 [15:28] <Kealper> address?
#2026 [15:28] <weirdo> matt one sec
#2027 [15:28] <weirdo> 99.188.201.191
#2028 [15:28] <weirdo> ill join in with you I just want to walk around for amin
#2029 [15:28] <weirdo> mine some blocks and see if there is lag
#2030 [15:29] <weirdo> OH GOD
#2031 [15:29] <weirdo> WHY AM I IN HELL
#2032 [15:29] <Mathuin> wierdo: when I died and respawned, there was some sort of corruption.
#2033 [15:29] <Kealper> dislike
#2034 [15:29] <Mathuin> I'd never seen the hell mode.
#2035 [15:29] <Mathuin> Fascinating.
#2036 [15:29] <weirdo> say again?
#2037 [15:29] <Kealper> Mathuin: bug with dieing in a hellmode server
#2038 [15:30] <weirdo> ooooh
#2039 [15:30] <Mathuin> Kealper: k.
#2040 [15:30] <weirdo> ill disable it really fast
#2041 [15:30] <Kealper> weirdo: seems to work....but uhh....pigmen....hate me....
#2042 [15:30] <weirdo> lmao
#2043 [15:30] <weirdo> ok so hellmode in multiplayer is a nono
#2044 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: don't attack them; they all have cell phones and an overactive sense of revenge
#2045 [15:30] <Kealper> i didn't lol
#2046 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> Mether SMP: Putting the Survival into Survival Multiplayer
#2047 [15:31] <Kealper> i just logged in, walked around, and one just came at me like i said bad things about it's mother or something lol
#2048 [15:31] <weirdo> lmao
#2049 [15:31] <weirdo> ok so you cant do hellmode in multiplayer
#2050 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> well, you _can_
#2051 [15:31] <weirdo> but it autospawns you inside of hell
#2052 [15:31] <weirdo> and everything is hostile?
#2053 [15:31] <Kealper> "can" lol
#2054 [15:32] <Kealper> zombie pigmen are only hostile if attacked
#2055 [15:32] <Kealper> and someone attacked
#2056 [15:32] <weirdo> ok
#2057 [15:32] <Mathuin> Me!
#2058 [15:32] <weirdo> in server properties if hellworld = false does that mean it is innaccessible
#2059 [15:32] <Miclee> Stop saying pigmen. >:(
#2060 [15:33] <weirdo> no mattter what
#2061 [15:33] <Mantas7776> i like multi world on smp
#2062 [15:33] <Mantas7776> :D
#2063 [15:33] <Mantas7776> i have my server with multi world
#2064 [15:33] <Kealper> Miclee: XD
#2065 [15:33] <weirdo> but is it set to false or true in properties
#2066 [15:33] <Kealper> hellmode=false is the defaul
#2067 [15:34] <Kealper> default
#2068 [15:34] <weirdo> ok and if it is false can you still go to the nether with the portal thing
#2069 [15:34] <Kealper> no, portals are disabled right now
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#2071 [15:34] <Kealper> since the nether is totally borked on smp
#2072 [15:34] <weirdo> ok so how do you do multiworld?
#2073 [15:34] <Kealper> mods
#2074 [15:34] <Kealper> and two server
#2075 [15:35] <weirdo> ah two servers like that saves resources or something?
#2076 [15:35] <Mathuin> Grr. I am ---><-- this close to making a freaking system call.
#2077 [15:35] <SkiingPenguins> you having problems?
#2078 [15:35] <Mantas7776> it classic going to work tomorow?
#2079 [15:35] <Kealper> well, it's just that right now, the server can not manage the two maps, since the nether is basically a whole new map that is generated in hellmode with your current map's seed :/
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#2081 [15:35] <Mantas7776> is classic going to work tomorow?
#2082 [15:36] <Kealper> Mantas7776: only time will tell
#2083 [15:36] <weirdo> ok
#2084 [15:36] <Mjiig> Kealper: that code is slightly beyond me, basically because i don't know the language
#2085 [15:36] <Mantas7776> ohh this is bad
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#2087 [15:36] <Kealper> Mjiig: want the low-down on how it works?
#2088 [15:36] <SkiingPenguins> Mjiig i believe it shakes an image down your screen
#2089 [15:36] * SkiingPenguins is trying to do it in AHK as learning experience ^.^
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#2090 [15:37] <Kealper> it creates a window, and then tiles a texture of snow on the entire window, using window flags to make the black of the image turn to transparent
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#2092 [15:37] <weirdo> with the console command save-on does it constantly save the level like single player
#2093 [15:38] <LatHans> no, only every now and then
#2094 [15:38] <weirdo> ok good enough lol
#2095 [15:38] <Kealper> the window position is 500 px taller than your monitor, and it just slowly moves the window downward, shaking it randomly until it gets down, then pops it back up to the top and starts over again
#2096 [15:38] <Mjiig> i see
#2097 [15:38] <weirdo> can how do I load a server if I quit
#2098 [15:38] <Kealper> to complete the effect of snow falling in a gentle breeze forver lol
#2099 [15:38] <Kealper> weirdo: what? lol
#2100 [15:38] <Mjiig> presumably it will bug quite badly if your screen is taller than 500px?
#2101 [15:39] <weirdo> sorry lol, how do I load a server once I close the server
#2102 [15:39] <SkiingPenguins> Mjiig no it loops it or whatever
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#2104 [15:39] <Kaya> hey
#2105 [15:39] <SkiingPenguins> hi
#2106 [15:39] <Kaya> what material does water go through?
#2107 [15:39] <weirdo> howdy
#2108 [15:39] <Shadow386> none
#2109 [15:39] <Mathuin> air?
#2110 [15:39] <weirdo> reeds?
#2111 [15:39] <Kealper> Mjiig: no, there is a pretty little function that lets it handle up to 32,000x32,000 displays
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#2113 [15:39] <Kaya> then why is it leaking -,-
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#2115 [15:39] <Shadow386> notch said he was adding drainage blocks soon
#2116 [15:39] <Kaya> im trying to build some glass tower
#2117 [15:39] <exp0> ok, now im fixed
#2118 [15:39] <Mathuin> I miss sponges.
#2119 [15:39] <Kaya> from under the water
#2120 [15:39] <Shadow386> water breaks torches, reeds, and redstone i think
#2121 [15:39] <Kaya> tunnel under
#2122 [15:40] <weirdo> kealper: how do I load a server after I close it out
#2123 [15:40] <SkiingPenguins> run it again
#2124 [15:40] <weirdo> ok lol
#2125 [15:40] <Mathuin> Kaya: I was on a multiplayer server, and they basically built from the seabed up.
#2126 [15:40] <Shadow386> weirdo did you save-all and stop?
#2127 [15:40] <weirdo> yeah one sec
#2128 [15:40] <Kealper> brb in a few min
#2129 [15:41] <weirdo> also, it autosaves where people quit right? and their inventory and everything
#2130 [15:41] <Mathuin> Yes, if they exited cleanly and if the server shut down cleanly.
#2131 [15:42] <weirdo> by cleanly the only way is "stop" and I cant X out of the server
#2132 [15:42] <weirdo> or will X work as well
#2133 [15:42] <Mathuin> X worked for me.
#2134 [15:43] <weirdo> ok cool, and if I edit server properties like monster spawning it will save everything else or will it break the server
#2135 [15:43] <Mathuin> I imagine it won't break the server.
#2136 [15:43] <weirdo> cool
#2137 [15:44] <Mjiig> Kealper: does AutoIt compile to native or what?
#2138 [15:45] <weirdo> kealper said he was going afk
#2139 [15:45] <Mjiig> weirdo: ah yes thanks, not paying attention
#2140 [15:46] <weirdo> alright so with my minecraft server are there any issues besides with the nether that I should know about
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#2142 [15:46] <weirdo> like anything not working right
#2143 [15:46] <weirdo> I pretty much just want single player but with a few friends lol
#2144 [15:46] <Shadow386> X is always the bad idea
#2145 [15:46] <Shadow386> it doesnt usually save
#2146 [15:46] <weirdo> I will probably use stop command anyways
#2147 [15:46] <Mathuin> I haven't personally lost anythign by X.
#2148 [15:47] <Mathuin> But that's not to say it's the safest approach.
#2149 [15:47] <Mathuin> Stop is much better.
#2150 [15:47] <Shadow386> yeah
#2151 [15:47] <Shadow386> save-all and stop are the best ideas
#2152 [15:47] <weirdo> but like I can kill mobs and everything works the same as in singleplayer
#2153 [15:47] <Shadow386> for the most part
#2154 [15:47] <weirdo> like what doesnt work then
#2155 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Minecart boosters are a little funky in SMP
#2156 [15:48] <weirdo> meh I can live with that lol
#2157 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Redstone works for the most part, some things do glitch out every now and then
#2158 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> (levers work, but animation sometimes doesn't, switches sometimes flip to adjacent blocks)
#2159 [15:48] <weirdo> noteblocks work or whatever too right
#2160 [15:48] <weirdo> havent played in a longggg time
#2161 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, they work
#2162 [15:48] <weirdo> lol
#2163 [15:49] <weirdo> random question also my friend bought beta yesterday, does that still guarentee free updates and stuff like alpha just the price went up?
#2164 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Yes and no
#2165 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> With alpha and beta, you get free bug fixes, updates, and the full release
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#2167 [15:50] <weirdo> so he will get everything that comes out as well
#2168 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> With alpha, those that got them then, will also receive expansions, if and when notch decides to work on them
#2169 [15:50] <weirdo> ah ok
#2170 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Beta users won't
#2171 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> (for free)
#2172 [15:50] <Shadow386> GreyVulpine is it sad that I would rather have source after the game is fully released so I can add my own crap? :x
#2173 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Nah, not sad at all
#2174 [15:51] <weirdo> that would feel freaking awesome if it became like tons of dlc and stuff or like monthly fees and I would have free forever
#2175 [15:51] <Shadow386> okay xD
#2176 [15:51] <Mathuin> Shadow386: it's my hope that a proper API will be released to assist in doing the crap-adding.
#2177 [15:51] <Shadow386> I've been messing with MCP and its working for the most part of custom crap, but I cant distribute :<
#2178 [15:51] <Shadow386> Mathuin you arent the only one D:
#2179 [15:51] <weirdo> because of legalities?
#2180 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Mathuin - That's in the works
#2181 [15:52] <Mathuin> GreyVulpine: if they let me change the way new blocks are created, I'll be 90% of the way to happiness.
#2182 [15:52] <Mathuin> s/blocks/chunks/
#2183 [15:52] <Kealper> rawr
#2184 [15:52] <Shadow386> pretty much. im sure that if I bring it up to Notch that I could convince him to let me for my small community, but have something to do with minecraft in it. like an ad or something
#2185 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Well, that shouldn't be hard..
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#2187 [15:52] <weirdo> why cant you just do it? like notch wouldnt sue you lol
#2188 [15:53] <Shadow386> im sure he would
#2189 [15:53] <Mathuin> That and making chunks either much much taller or adjusting the base Y value will be all I need to make my "hike the Oregon Trail" server. :-)
#2190 [15:53] <Shadow386> I wont want to take a chance though
#2191 [15:53] <Shadow386> this game is awesome
#2192 [15:53] <weirdo> yeah
#2193 [15:53] <weirdo> do other people do it anyways?
#2194 [15:53] <Shadow386> and i barely have any money to my name anyways.
#2195 [15:53] <Kealper> Mjiig: no it does not compile to native code, it's interpreted, but it does compile to some sort of bytecode-esque stuff then packs a copy of the interpreter with it to get it into a single exe
#2196 [15:53] <Shadow386> no cases ive heard of yet
#2197 [15:53] <weirdo> what were you planning on changing anyways?
#2198 [15:54] <Mathuin> I know of someone who allegedly wrote a clean-room implementation of the server in Python.
#2199 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#2200 [15:54] <Shadow386> weirdo just practicing making it stable and adding shitloads of custom stuff
#2201 [15:54] <Mjiig> Kealper: surely that's space ineffecient, to have an interpreter packed with every program?
#2202 [15:54] <weirdo> like what custom stuff
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#2204 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> "Bravo" was the minecraft server written in python
#2205 [15:55] <Shadow386> weirdo lots of things
#2206 [15:55] <Kealper> Mjiig: quite, but AutoIt's interpreter is insanely small compared to other interpreted langauges
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#2208 [15:56] <Kealper> Mjiig: not sure if you downloaded that snow-test.exe, but it was only about 300kb after i packed it with UPX, it's under 700kb normal
#2209 [15:56] <Mjiig> fair enough
#2210 [15:57] <Kealper> and you can choose to compile as an a3x file, if you know the target system has the AutoIt interpreter installed, which is a compiled AutoIt program without the interpreter packed with it
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#2214 [16:02] <Mjiig> is there any up to date info on how mob spawns work? the explanation linked to by the wiki is out of date
#2215 [16:02] <Kealper> my keyboard is garbage for use as computer speakers lol
#2216 [16:02] <Kealper> can't handle really deep bass too well :/
#2217 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Keyboard.. speakers?
#2218 [16:03] <Kealper> not typing keyboard, piano keyboard
#2219 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Oooooo
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#2221 [16:03] <FlipmasterJ> Hello!
#2222 [16:03] <Kealper> ello
#2223 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#2224 [16:04] <FlipmasterJ> I can't play minecraft, halp!
#2225 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you play?
#2226 [16:04] <FlipmasterJ> FAILED TO LAUNCH, it says
#2227 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Where does it say this?
#2228 [16:05] <FlipmasterJ> \herp\derp\.minecraft\bin\lwjl.jar (Can't find this brah)
#2229 [16:05] <FlipmasterJ> In thelauncher
#2230 [16:05] <FlipmasterJ> I've paid and everything
#2231 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Does it provide you with an error log?
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#2233 [16:05] <FlipmasterJ> No, it's just text inside the launcher
#2234 [16:06] <FlipmasterJ> Same thing when I try to run it in browser
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#2236 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2237 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Has it worked before?
#2238 [16:06] <FlipmasterJ> nope
#2239 [16:06] <Kealper> FlipmasterJ: so navigate to %appdata%\.minecraft and then delete the bin folder
#2240 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2241 [16:07] <deem> my 4k x 7k map will get real! :D
#2242 [16:07] <Kealper> lol
#2243 [16:07] <deem> just takes a sh*tload of time -.-
#2244 [16:07] <deem> got the lowest level done tho
#2245 [16:08] <deem> only 13 levels missing till i can take it online for the builders :)
#2246 [16:08] <Kealper> lol
#2247 [16:08] <FlipmasterJ> It works! :D
#2248 [16:08] <Mathuin> deem: the rest should go a little faster.
#2249 [16:09] <FlipmasterJ> Thank you, stranger!
#2250 [16:09] <Kealper> ..right.
#2251 [16:09] <FlipmasterJ> where do I start?
#2252 [16:09] <Kealper> !tutorial
#2253 [16:09] <Kealper> that link
#2254 [16:09] <deem> not really mathuin the block-generating takes quite a bit of time
#2255 [16:09] <Mathuin> Sure but at least you're not making the chunks again.
#2256 [16:10] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper i failed to do that snow-test thing in AHK
#2257 [16:10] <Kealper> deem: he means it should go faster once all the chunks are generated, because it will only have to modify the chunks instead of prepare them and such
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#2259 [16:10] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: i've never used AHK so i'm not sure what it's capable of, or how good it would even be
#2260 [16:11] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper it wouldnt tile the image -.- and the transparency sucks
#2261 [16:11] <|System|> Minecraft still down for you guys ?
#2262 [16:11] <Kealper> just for craps and grins....could you pastebin what you tried? i'd kinda like to see it lol
#2263 [16:11] <Kealper> !isdown minecraft.net
#2264 [16:11] <GreyBot> Kealper: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2265 [16:11] <deem> sure sure but its around 600 million blocks to generate
#2266 [16:11] <Kealper> nope
#2267 [16:12] <Mathuin> deem: right, because you're insane. :-)
#2268 [16:12] <Mathuin> I think my biggest project so far was 28M blocks, and it crashed my computer.
#2269 [16:12] <deem> nope i´m not insane! i´m obsessed!
#2270 [16:12] <SkiingPenguins> http://pastebin.com/pumTWezB <- :( its short but thats cause i couldnt even get that to work
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#2272 [16:12] <Kealper> deem: they say obsession is just one step below insanity :o
#2273 [16:12] <Mathuin> In the process of fixing that bug, I broke something else, and I've wasted two days trying to do this stupid schematic thing.
#2274 [16:13] <|System|> GHA!!!
#2275 [16:13] <deem> see! one step BELOW!
#2276 [16:13] <deem> ^^
#2277 [16:13] <|System|> i cant get on minecraft
#2278 [16:13] <Kealper> AHK looks....unstructured....lol
#2279 [16:13] <deem> what is AHK :-/
#2280 [16:13] <SkiingPenguins> sometimes i hate it
#2281 [16:13] <SkiingPenguins> oh snap
#2282 [16:13] <|System|> Whats with all the unbans?
#2283 [16:13] <Kealper> the hell?
#2284 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> ..d'oh
#2285 [16:14] <Mathuin> Did something expire?
#2286 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> No, that was me
#2287 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> I even told it not to mess with others' bans :p
#2288 [16:14] <deem> what machine do you have mathuin? i just wonder if mine will crash too -.-
#2289 [16:14] * |System| sets ban on *!*@75-30-114-218.lightspeed.arlhil.sbcglobal.net
#2289 [16:14] <|System|> lol only if...
#2290 [16:14] <Mathuin> I had 4G of RAM. I did some optimizing and bough tmore RAM.
#2291 [16:15] <Kealper> deem: AutoHotKey
#2292 [16:15] <deem> running a 32bit pc makes me cry now
#2293 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Who the...
#2294 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Why was the banlist cleared?
#2295 [16:15] <deem> what is that doing? for g15 or so?
#2296 [16:16] <|System|> lol
#2297 [16:16] <Mathuin> The processor is a quad-core 3GHz old system.
#2298 [16:16] <Mathuin> I need to get like an i7, but I don't have the $1k to replace the whole deal.
#2299 [16:16] <Mathuin> Maybe after income tax refund time.
#2300 [16:16] <Kealper> deem: it's what happens when an AutoIt developer QQs and makes his own language based off VERY old AutoIt source
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#2302 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: like I said, that was my fault
#2303 [16:16] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2303 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#2304 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I missed that
#2305 [16:17] <Kealper> when that first happened i was seriously about to kickban VoxelHead
#2306 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> the funny thing is, other than that, VoxelHead doesn't even do anything yet.
#2307 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> I'll make sure it doesn't get ops until it's better bahaved WRT other ops' bans. My apologies.
#2308 [16:17] <Kealper> i was like wtf? name i don't recognise? op? wut? and then you said that was you about half way through me typing to kickban it lol
#2309 [16:18] * DopeGhoti banishes VoxelHead to another channel until it's better behaves.
#2309 [16:18] <|System|> Help!
#2310 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> er, behaved.
#2311 [16:18] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
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#2313 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> |System| - What's up?
#2314 [16:18] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: #mcbots, gogo
#2315 [16:18] <|System|> Cant access Minecraftr
#2316 [16:18] <|System|> minecraft*
#2317 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you?
#2318 [16:18] <deem> btw i didnt have any memory issues yet
#2319 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> WIth what?
#2320 [16:19] <Kealper> xales has the channel set up stupid, lemme screw with settings
#2321 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I went went, and it banned banned.
#2322 [16:20] <Kealper> i have no idea how he has that set up....
#2323 [16:21] <deem> cant you just set it to ignore existing bans?
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#2325 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> "Anyone not on The Lest gets !kb'd" apparently.
#2326 [16:22] <Kealper> yes, but what list is the question lol
#2327 [16:22] <Kealper> i know you were supposed to be one of the ones allowed in there
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#2329 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: well, it was from ChanServ; maybe I need to be known-welcome to it?
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#2331 [16:22] <|System|> http://i.imgur.com/sR0Yn.png
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#2333 [16:22] <Shadow386> SteevoKun what is the issue?
#2334 [16:23] <SteevoKun> Massive lag and freezing of single player on Mint.
#2335 [16:23] <Shadow386> mint?
#2336 [16:23] <SkiingPenguins> !check minecraft.net:80
#2337 [16:23] <SteevoKun> Linux Mint.
#2338 [16:23] <Kealper> Linux Mint
#2339 [16:23] <Shadow386> never heard of
#2340 [16:23] <Shadow386> well,i cant help then
#2341 [16:23] <SteevoKun> Keapler, have you run MC on Linux?
#2342 [16:24] <deem> It makes fresh breath when working with it.
#2343 [16:24] <SkiingPenguins> |System| works fine for me in chrome
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#2345 [16:24] <|System|> GRRRR
#2346 [16:24] <SkiingPenguins> try clearing dns cache?
#2347 [16:24] <|System|> How
#2348 [16:24] <|System|> on the command prompt
#2349 [16:24] <|System|> what do i type?
#2350 [16:25] <SkiingPenguins> ipconfig /flushdns
#2351 [16:25] <Kealper> SteevoKun: i have never been able to get minecraftrunning under Mint, it hates my ATI card :/
#2352 [16:25] <SteevoKun> Oh.
#2353 [16:25] <|System|> C:\Users\Admin>ipconfig /flushdns
#2354 [16:25] <|System|> Windows IP Configuration
#2355 [16:25] <|System|> Successfully flushed the DNS Resolver Cache.
#2356 [16:25] <|System|> C:\Users\Admin>
#2357 [16:25] <SteevoKun> I'm not sure what the issue is on my machine - I guess I'm just going to have to play it on a Faildows machine.
#2358 [16:25] <SkiingPenguins> stop being OS-ist
#2359 [16:26] <SteevoKun> lol
#2360 [16:26] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: try again? i think i got it
#2361 [16:26] <SkiingPenguins> my win7 works perfectly fine :(
#2362 [16:26] <SteevoKun> I have Win7 on the laptop I use for work.
#2363 [16:26] <BroatioCaine> My sound is being weird
#2364 [16:27] <|System|> nope
#2365 [16:27] <|System|> Cant connect
#2366 [16:27] <SteevoKun> I tempted to go to my office and get my laptop just so I can play MC.
#2367 [16:27] <SteevoKun> I bought it last night and haven't gotten to play yet. :(
#2368 [16:28] <|System|> Anyone got any ideas on how to get on minecraft?
#2369 [16:29] <|System|> Shall i restart my modem?
#2370 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> What does minecraft.net resolve to?
#2371 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Can you ping it?
#2372 [16:29] <|System|> yeah
#2373 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#2374 [16:29] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2375 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Can you give us the address it resolves to
#2376 [16:29] <|System|> C:\Users\Admin>ping minecraft.net
#2377 [16:29] <|System|> Pinging minecraft.net [99.198.121.104] with 32 bytes of data:
#2378 [16:29] <|System|> Request timed out.
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#2381 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not a minecraftip
#2382 [16:30] <|System|> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
#2383 [16:30] * GreyVulpine rechecks whois
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#2384 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Nope, that's not an amazon S3 IP
#2385 [16:30] <BroatioCaine> My sound for Minecraft is being very weird. It's not off, just incredibly quiet. Even with my sound maxed out, it's barely audible.
#2386 [16:31] <Adam|Miner> I have a NVidia graphics card and minecraft just goes to a black screen randomly (Usually around 1-8 minutes of playing), is something misconfigured?
#2387 [16:31] <|System|> whats the minecraft ip?
#2388 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> |System| - Can you try going to
#2389 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> 99.198.121.104
#2390 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> er
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#2392 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> 50.16.203.217
#2393 [16:31] <Kealper> BroatioCaine: is your system volume turned down?
#2394 [16:31] <BroatioCaine> It is 100%
#2395 [16:31] <BroatioCaine> This only happens with Minecraft
#2396 [16:31] <BroatioCaine> everything else comes through loud and clear
#2397 [16:32] <|System|> Ping statistics for 50.16.203.217:
#2398 [16:32] <|System|> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
#2399 [16:32] <BroatioCaine> Minecraft sound and music are both 100%
#2400 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> |System| - No, I mean, http://50.16.203.217
#2401 [16:32] <Kealper> Adam|Miner: what OS, and what are your system specs?
#2402 [16:32] <Kealper> BroatioCaine: OS?
#2403 [16:32] <BroatioCaine> Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
#2404 [16:32] <BroatioCaine> this has been going on for at least two weeks
#2405 [16:33] <Adam|Miner> Windows 7, Intel 3.4GHz Quad, 12 GB RAM
#2406 [16:33] <BroatioCaine> if not more
#2407 [16:33] <Shadow386> |System| did you try something such as using this MCCheat hack that was available on Youtube that changes your hosts file?
#2408 [16:33] <SkiingPenguins> BroatioCaine is the minecraft sound all the way up when you click the small speaker at the bottom?
#2409 [16:33] * GreyVulpine nods at Shadow386
#2409 [16:33] <BroatioCaine> Yes
#2410 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> It's his HOSTS file
#2411 [16:33] <|System|> http://i.imgur.com/2QL3O.png
#2412 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Points to a different IP
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#2414 [16:34] <Kealper> Adam|Miner: have you restarted your computer recently? is your graphics drivers up to date? and last, is your java up to date?
#2415 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> |System| - Do you know how to get to your HOSTS file?
#2416 [16:34] <Shadow386> Im just saying, there was this hack that was on youtube that allowed this one guy to steal minecraft accounts because people are ignorant and want a hack
#2417 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#2418 [16:34] <|System|> I dont use hacks cause i am not a d****
#2419 [16:34] <SkiingPenguins> Shadow386 WTF??
#2420 [16:34] <Adam|Miner> Computer- yes, Graphics- yes, Java- will check
#2421 [16:34] <|System|> Yeah i can
#2422 [16:34] <BroatioCaine> |System|: try http://minecraft.net/ ?
#2423 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> |System| - Can you please check your hosts file for minecraft.net entries
#2424 [16:34] <Shadow386> Let me check the link again
#2425 [16:34] <|System|> sure
#2426 [16:35] <|System|> FFFF
#2427 [16:35] <|System|> Whats the dictionary
#2428 [16:35] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#2429 [16:35] <|System|> forgot where it is
#2430 [16:35] <Kealper> dictionary?
#2431 [16:35] <SkiingPenguins> C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\
#2432 [16:35] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#2433 [16:35] <|System|> Thanks sexy
#2434 [16:35] <SkiingPenguins> :S
#2435 [16:35] <Adam|Miner> Java IS up to date.
#2436 [16:36] <Kealper> i was unaware that SkiingPenguins was sexy....
#2437 [16:36] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper i thought he might have meant directory :P
#2438 [16:36] <Shadow386> Just for reference, this is the video with the FALSE MCCheat that steals passwords and login information http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vd9tX7Qivk
#2439 [16:36] <Kealper> Adam|Miner: have you tried reinstalling minecraft? (removing the .minecraft\bin folder)
#2440 [16:36] <|System|> ok yeah i got a bunch of crap fir minecraft in here
#2441 [16:36] <|System|> delete it?
#2442 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Delete it
#2443 [16:36] <Adam|Miner> Is that in roaming?
#2444 [16:36] <Shadow386> |System| wait
#2445 [16:36] <|System|> ?
#2446 [16:36] <Kealper> Adam|Miner: yeah
#2447 [16:36] <Shadow386> pastebin.com and paste what's in there
#2448 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> No, delete it
#2449 [16:37] <|System|> ok
#2450 [16:37] <Shadow386> just the minecraft stuff
#2451 [16:37] <SkiingPenguins> >.<
#2452 [16:37] <|System|> http://pastebin.com/0UdnuNUP
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#2454 [16:37] <|System|> My mate must of used the hacks then
#2455 [16:37] * GreyVulpine nods
#2455 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> delete it
#2456 [16:37] <Shadow386> |System| then yes, you did use the hack
#2457 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> retry it
#2458 [16:37] <Shadow386> tell him to change his IP
#2459 [16:38] <Shadow386> er password
#2460 [16:38] <|System|> no I personally didnt
#2461 [16:38] <|System|> My mate might of
#2462 [16:38] <Shadow386> well whoever used it, tell them to change their password.
#2463 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> I would definitely start with changing the minecraft password
#2464 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> whoever used the computer to log in
#2465 [16:38] <Shadow386> I REALLY wish youtube actually read their reports instead only worrying about copyright shit.
#2466 [16:39] <Kealper> wait.....what happened? his hosts file was redirecting to a phishing minecraft site?
#2467 [16:39] <SkiingPenguins> Shadow386 may i report it to mediafire insteal?
#2468 [16:39] <SkiingPenguins> instead
#2469 [16:39] <Shadow386> Kealper yes, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vd9tX7Qivk
#2470 [16:39] <Shadow386> SkiingPenguins i would suggest it
#2471 [16:39] <SkiingPenguins> i did it for like 3 other ones that were trojans
#2472 [16:39] <|System|> http://i.imgur.com/Z9zIj.png
#2473 [16:39] <Shadow386> someone on his pc used that mccheat hack that changes the hosts file
#2474 [16:39] <|System|> And yes i can access it now
#2475 [16:39] <Shadow386> you're welcome
#2476 [16:39] <|System|> you guys are gods among men
#2477 [16:39] <Shadow386> tell your mate to change his too
#2478 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> We see this problem a lot
#2479 [16:39] <SkiingPenguins> |System| you might also want to change your password
#2480 [16:40] <|System|> I will literally worship you
#2481 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> It's actually fairly common
#2482 [16:40] <|System|> http://i.imgur.com/Z9zIj.png
#2483 [16:40] <Adam|Miner> Alright, gonna try that for a few minutes
#2484 [16:40] <BroatioCaine> aaa
#2485 [16:40] <SkiingPenguins> awesome
#2486 [16:40] * Kealper goes afk to find food
#2486 [16:40] <BroatioCaine> Still not sure what to do about my sound problem
#2487 [16:40] <|System|> Should i punch my mate for this?
#2488 [16:40] <SkiingPenguins> |System|
#2489 [16:40] <BroatioCaine> Punch him good.
#2490 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> Yes |System|
#2491 [16:41] <|System|> I will then
#2492 [16:41] <|System|> lol
#2493 [16:41] <Mathuin> This is what happens when people want to get something for nothing.
#2494 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> say this time, the ban list should not get nuked xales, GreyVulpine
#2495 [16:41] <SkiingPenguins> give him a non-admin account :P
#2496 [16:41] <Shadow386> Kealper http://imgur.com/MV9WEl&tmxRp&Fi19q&zk0wa
#2497 [16:41] <Adam|Miner> Nope, went black again
#2498 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> say I see
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#2500 [16:41] <|System|>
#2501 [16:41] <BroatioCaine>
#2502 [16:41] <BroatioCaine> afk
#2503 [16:41] <Adam|Miner>
#2504 [16:41] <|System|> Mathuin i paied for my account
#2505 [16:41] <Mathuin> |System|: yes, but did your mate?
#2506 [16:41] <|System|> hence the trouble i went thought to get it
#2507 [16:42] <SkiingPenguins> but he's saying your friend wanted something (a hack) for free
#2508 [16:42] <|System|> Nope
#2509 [16:42] <Mathuin> Your friend was the "someone" in my tsk tsk, not you :-)
#2510 [16:42] <|System|> Ill punch him twice for [trying] tohacking a beatuful game
#2511 [16:42] <|System|> Ill punch him twice for [trying] to hacking a beatuful game
#2512 [16:42] <Shadow386> the Hack only makes it possible to cheat items into your inventory in multiplayer servers, and offline
#2513 [16:42] <Mathuin> Wow how annoying. Make one tweak, run the code for three minutes, find a typo, lather rinse repeat.
#2514 [16:42] <|System|> beautiful*
#2515 [16:43] <Mathuin> Shadow386: I've always thought player state should be stored on the server. That's what fixed that hack right?
#2516 [16:43] <Shadow386> for the most part, yes
#2517 [16:43] <Shadow386> but assholes are still developing it and should seriously get a real life. along with griefers
#2518 [16:43] <|System|> If i didnt change my pass would my account get hyjacked?
#2519 [16:43] <Shadow386> they should all go see psychiatrists
#2520 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> It's a possibility
#2521 [16:43] <Shadow386> |System| prob
#2522 [16:43] <|System|> ok cool
#2523 [16:43] <|System|> well..
#2524 [16:43] <|System|> Not cool but still
#2525 [16:44] <SkiingPenguins> cool that it didnt ;)
#2526 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> |System|: was your password "1234"?
#2527 [16:44] <|System|> nope
#2528 [16:44] <|System|> Its a ironic password
#2529 [16:44] <Mathuin> Eh, griefers I can almost understand. It's "a way to play".
#2530 [16:44] <|System|> due to this situation
#2531 [16:44] <Shadow386> the only illegal stuff I support is pirating of things that are thousands of $ but are only worth hundreds.
#2532 [16:44] <Shadow386> Mathuin the people who come into servers just to grief amazing artwork?
#2533 [16:45] <Shadow386> anywho
#2534 [16:45] <SkiingPenguins> Shadow386 what about if i pirate things to further my education? xD
#2535 [16:45] <Mathuin> It's how they play. I don't want them on any server I'm on. :-)
#2536 [16:45] <|System|> To be fair i pirated FinalCut
#2537 [16:45] <|System|> lol
#2538 [16:45] <Shadow386> SkiingPenguins cannot discuss :P
#2539 [16:45] <Adam|Miner> Any other reccomendations for fixing random blackscreens?
#2540 [16:45] <|System|> yeah
#2541 [16:45] <|System|> adam
#2542 [16:45] <Shadow386> Mathuin then they should stay on griefing servers only.
#2543 [16:45] <|System|> wait till Notch fixes it
#2544 [16:45] <Adam|Miner> :P
#2545 [16:45] <Coll> when he decies to come back
#2546 [16:45] <Mathuin> Adam|Miner: I had a blackscreen problem. I took my computer apart and blew canned air through the video card fans and it worked just fine after that.
#2547 [16:45] <Adam|Miner> That'll never happen XD
#2548 [16:46] <Mathuin> Shadow386: I agree.
#2549 [16:46] <Coll> I think its been 2 weeks already
#2550 [16:46] <Shadow386> I've noticed there have been a crapload less updates lately and I dislike.
#2551 [16:46] <Adam|Miner> My computer is custom built, CPU averages 40 degrees celcius, it runs fine :/
#2552 [16:46] <|System|> I want the Friday updates again!
#2553 [16:46] <Shadow386> like seriously, there used to be updates once a week on fridays. now its nothing.
#2554 [16:46] <|System|> I miss thoughts
#2555 [16:46] <|System|> those*
#2556 [16:46] <Coll> he said that it would be like this
#2557 [16:46] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#2558 [16:46] <Mathuin> I haven't played much lately -- I've been too busy with meta-Minecraft.
#2559 [16:47] <|System|> Shadow386 JINX
#2560 [16:47] <Shadow386> meta-Minecraft?
#2561 [16:47] <BroatioCaine> back
#2562 [16:47] <Kealper> things vaguely related to minecraft
#2563 [16:47] <Shadow386> ah
#2564 [16:47] <Mathuin> For the past month or so I've been busting my ass on this TopoMC project which generates topographically realistic Minecraft worlds based on USGS data.
#2565 [16:47] <Shadow386> ooo
#2566 [16:47] <Shadow386> I like
#2567 [16:47] <Kealper> and i'm back, btw lol
#2568 [16:47] <Mathuin> So every hour I play MC for about fifteen seconds to see if the world worked right.
#2569 [16:47] <Mathuin> Rehi, Kealper.
#2570 [16:47] <Shadow386> ive been just designing websites and
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#2572 [16:48] <Shadow386> dealing with my server folk
#2573 [16:48] <BroatioCaine> yo, Kealper. Any other help I can get on my sound problem?
#2574 [16:48] <Shadow386> Kealper http://imgur.com/MV9WEl&tmxRp&Fi19q&zk0wa
#2575 [16:48] <|System|> This channel should have a voice chat thing going on like Ventrillo or TeamSpeak
#2576 [16:48] <Kealper> i checked that Shadow386, the second and third actually look good lol
#2577 [16:48] <|System|> Then help would be more direct
#2578 [16:48] <Shadow386> I have a teamspeak on my server for my people :P
#2579 [16:48] <Shadow386> Kealper it looks more then good lol i drool so much when i see em
#2580 [16:48] <Shadow386> I wanna order pizza...brb
#2581 [16:49] <Kealper> BroatioCaine: have you tried adjusting the sound in minecraft all the way down then back up?
#2582 [16:49] <BroatioCaine> Yes.
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#2584 [16:49] <|System|> shadow386 whats the address
#2585 [16:49] <Kealper> and it's not set down stupid low in your computer's sound mixer?
#2586 [16:51] <BroatioCaine> ...
#2587 [16:51] <BroatioCaine> how the
#2588 [16:51] <Mathuin> On another topic, still trying to fuss with inventory. I get the ['Data']['Player']['Inventory'] tag, I create a compound tag, I populate the compound tag with a short named 'Id', a short named 'Damage', a byte named 'Count', and a byte named 'Slot'. I append the compound tag to the inventory. No dice. Help?
#2589 [16:51] <BroatioCaine> how the hell did that happen?
#2590 [16:51] <Shadow386> |System| what?
#2591 [16:51] <Kealper> BroatioCaine: hmm?
#2592 [16:51] <|System|> TeamSpeak
#2593 [16:51] <BroatioCaine> That's the problem!
#2594 [16:51] <|System|> <|System|> Then help would be more direct
#2595 [16:51] <|System|> <Shadow386> I have a teamspeak on my server for my people :P
#2596 [16:52] <BroatioCaine> I don't know how or why it went down that low
#2597 [16:52] <Shadow386> oh, i dont think anyone is on it lol but ts.shadow-craft.net
#2598 [16:52] <Kealper> BroatioCaine: :P
#2599 [16:52] <BroatioCaine> Thanks a bundle for the help
#2600 [16:52] <BroatioCaine> if it happens again I'll look to that first
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#2602 [16:52] <Kealper> another happy customer :o
#2603 [16:53] <|System|> Kealper as i had that crap on my pc shouldnt the server work now?
#2604 [16:54] <|System|> as i removed it
#2605 [16:54] <|System|> whats the command?
#2606 [16:54] <|System|> to see if it doe
#2607 [16:54] <|System|> to see if it does
#2608 [16:54] <Kealper> |System|: not sure how that would affect it, but it should work
#2609 [16:54] <Shadow386> well people can use my teamspeak server if they want, actually
#2610 [16:54] <Kealper> and it's !check
#2611 [16:54] <|System|> ok
#2612 [16:54] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper why does http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=128296 not work
#2613 [16:54] <|System|> !check
#2614 [16:54] <|System|> ASJDHAJKOSLDNMAKLSDNMAKL:S
#2615 [16:54] <Shadow386> lol
#2616 [16:55] <Shadow386> !check smp.shadow-craft.net:25565
#2617 [16:55] <|System|> !check exodusserver.com
#2618 [16:55] <|System|> Good boy AuBot
#2619 [16:55] * GreyBot purrs.
#2619 [16:55] <Kealper> wait, what?
#2620 [16:55] <Shadow386> HAH
#2621 [16:56] <Kealper> good boy
#2622 [16:56] <Shadow386> good bot
#2623 [16:56] * GreyBot purrs.
#2623 [16:56] <Kealper> stupid bot -.-
#2624 [16:56] * GreyBot bonks Kealper, "Be nice to your bot master!"
#2624 [16:56] <SkiingPenguins> Good boy Kealper
#2625 [16:56] <Kealper> fucking bot -.-
#2626 [16:56] <Shadow386> lmao
#2627 [16:56] <|System|> I FOUND A COMMAND
#2628 [16:56] <|System|> good boy
#2629 [16:56] <SkiingPenguins> fail
#2630 [16:56] <|System|> Ahh
#2631 [16:56] <Shadow386> its good bot
#2632 [16:56] * GreyBot purrs.
#2632 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> !grey off
#2633 [16:56] <Shadow386> sorry GreyVulpine
#2634 [16:56] <Shadow386> XD
#2635 [16:57] <Kealper> grey i swear you have some of the stupidest scripts loaded on that thing lol
#2636 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> I was young and dumb
#2637 [16:57] <Kealper> ahh, the good ol' days
#2638 [16:57] <Kealper> lol
#2639 [16:57] <Shadow386> *still are?
#2640 [16:58] <SkiingPenguins> does anyone know how i can capture all activity a program does in terms of packets?
#2641 [16:58] <Mathuin> tcpdump ?
#2642 [16:58] <Mathuin> (or do the cool kids all use ethereal?)
#2643 [16:58] <|System|> Does anyone know any good macrokey programs i could use
#2644 [16:58] <Kealper> Mathuin: WireShark, eatherreal changed it's name
#2645 [16:58] <|System|> I want to keep kicking this guy cause he is ass on my server
#2646 [16:59] <Mathuin> Kealper: showin my age
#2647 [16:59] <SkiingPenguins> |System| just ban him
#2648 [16:59] <|System|> But i dont want to ban him
#2649 [16:59] <SkiingPenguins> -.-
#2650 [16:59] <SkiingPenguins> thats just dumb
#2651 [16:59] <|System|> Nah more fun like this
#2652 [16:59] <Kealper> Mathuin: yeah, i was confuesed about that for a while, too :P
#2653 [16:59] <SkiingPenguins> then have fun practicing typing
#2654 [16:59] <|System|> >_>
#2655 [16:59] <Mathuin> ... okay, if this worked, I built my two-story building brick by brick in 0.01 seconds.
#2656 [16:59] <Kealper> O.o
#2657 [17:00] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper im running a windows xp virtualbox and testing these "minecraft cheats"
#2658 [17:00] <Mathuin> HAHAHAHA The building worked, but it got put 35 units up in the sky.
#2659 [17:01] <SkiingPenguins> lol
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#2661 [17:01] <Mathuin> either that or out in the ocean. still figuring it out.
#2662 [17:02] <EmpiresBane> wow... a topic, a chanserv message, and 2 bots.
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#2667 [17:03] <Kealper> not sure what's up with MCHelpBot lol
#2668 [17:03] * DopeGhoti got no message from ChanServ
#2668 [17:03] <EmpiresBane> -ChanServ- (#minecraft) This channel is moderated. For general chatter, please go to #mcchatter. Ops: please be strict.
#2669 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> EmpiresBane: that's #minecraft, not #MineCraftHelp
#2670 [17:04] <EmpiresBane> hrm....
#2671 [17:04] <EmpiresBane> still way to many messages
#2672 [17:04] <EmpiresBane> especially cuz on of them is redundant
#2673 [17:04] <EmpiresBane> *one
#2674 [17:04] <Kealper> well, AuBot sends it's notice because noobs don't read the topic
#2675 [17:05] <EmpiresBane> do they read the notice?
#2676 [17:05] <Kealper> more of them do, but some still suck
#2677 [17:05] <Kealper> they really noticed it when it was black background with pink letters
#2678 [17:06] <Mathuin> The next time I build a building like this, I'm using Lapiz Lazuli bricks and calling it a Tardis. Damned thing enver goes where it should and is always flying around.
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#2680 [17:11] * Mathuin hates the freaking hiccups.
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#2682 [17:13] * Kealper throws on a ton of Foo Fighters
#2682 [17:15] <Mathuin> Okay. The building is in the right place. Everything is torqued!
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#2684 [17:15] <Mathuin> Which makes sense, since the map gets rotated 90 degrees.
#2685 [17:15] <EmpiresBane> ...what are you doing?
#2686 [17:16] <Mathuin> I have a Python script that generates a building of arbitrary height, length, and width which inserts stories and stairs and puts torches around the top so you can see it.
#2687 [17:16] <Mathuin> But! I wrote it before I realized that game north was not real north, and I had to translate stuff around 90 degrees.
#2688 [17:16] <Mathuin> So... I have to change all the stupid little settings for which way my stairs face, and which way the torches face, blah blah blah.
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#2690 [17:16] <mypasswordis12345> !paid sparkler
#2691 [17:17] <mypasswordis12345> well minecraft dowsn't think so
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#2693 [17:17] <mypasswordis12345> anyone else getting the not premium message?
#2694 [17:18] <Kealper> mypasswordis12345: maybe....the website has been a bit tempermental today
#2695 [17:18] * Mathuin is back in the run-three-minutes, make-one-tweak loop.
#2695 [17:19] <Kealper> gotta love that phase of debugging
#2696 [17:19] <SkiingPenguins> thats all i seem to ever do
#2697 [17:19] <Mathuin> Kealper: this is why I made multicore support my first priority. At least it takes 25% of the original time.
#2698 [17:19] <Kealper> lol
#2699 [17:19] <Mathuin> And I can tell when it's almost done when the fans spin slower. :-)
#2700 [17:19] <EmpiresBane> it's really awesome when you find the problem is somewhere completely different
#2701 [17:20] <mypasswordis12345> ok its back up time to dodge ghasts on smp
#2702 [17:21] <Mathuin> Okay, that one wasn't it, try the next one...
#2703 [17:21] <SkiingPenguins> WTF how does virtualbox only use 76MB of RAM? i thought windows XP used more than that...
#2704 [17:21] * Jakob is now away: lol
#2704 [17:21] * Jakob has returned from away: lol (Gone since 3:21:48p, 1sec ago)
#2704 [17:22] <Kealper> >.>
#2705 [17:22] <SkiingPenguins> *confused*
#2706 [17:23] <Kealper> if i see that away script again imma ban him for a day from here >.>
#2707 [17:23] <SkiingPenguins> there's a kid in my computer art class and he thinks he's so awesome at runescape and that he can "hack" when all he is doing is downloading trojans that *appear* to be working
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#2709 [17:25] <Kealper> i hate script kiddies like that :/
#2710 [17:25] <Mathuin> Okay, this is wrong.
#2711 [17:25] <SkiingPenguins> i scared him shitless when i gave him a program i made in AHK to add a hidden file property to his my documents folder until next restart >.<
#2712 [17:25] <Postoffice> my friend had a server save, and he copyed it to me. but when i start it, it's making a new spawn area...
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#2714 [17:28] <EmpiresBane> how many people are opped in here?
#2715 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> 11
#2716 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> 2 bots
#2717 [17:30] <Mathuin> Can MCEdit be used to change block data as well as blocks?
#2718 [17:30] <EmpiresBane> i mean in total
#2719 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> EmpiresBane: Eleven entities in #MineCraftHelp currently wear a magic @.
#2720 [17:30] <Kealper> 8 on AOP
#2721 [17:31] <Kealper> and there are a few people like mojang employees that are on AuBot's autoop
#2722 [17:32] <EmpiresBane> mollstam is an employee, who else come in here?
#2723 [17:33] <Kealper> jeb comes in here some times i think, Notch and ez are on the SOP list, etc
#2724 [17:33] <Kealper> and dope is using his nickserv info for VoxelHead
#2725 [17:34] <EmpiresBane> hm... TrueWolves is also SOP
#2726 [17:34] <Kealper> he's the owner of the channel
#2727 [17:34] <EmpiresBane> yeah
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#2730 [17:34] <EmpiresBane> he's the one who opped me, cuz i was pretty much the only person who came here, originally
#2731 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Same
#2732 [17:35] <Mathuin> Stairs good, door torch good, door hinge bad.
#2733 [17:35] <EmpiresBane> i really need to do my history...
#2734 [17:39] <|System|> !check minecraft.net
#2735 [17:39] <relsqui> you want !isdown
#2736 [17:39] <|System|> !isdown
#2737 [17:39] <relsqui> there is no minecraft server running on minecraft.net
#2738 [17:39] <relsqui> !isdown minecraft.net
#2739 [17:39] <GreyBot> relsqui: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2740 [17:40] <|System|> um..
#2741 [17:40] <Kealper> you could do !check minecraft.net:80 though (don't try it, yes it works just the same as !isdown)
#2742 [17:40] <|System|> its ok
#2743 [17:40] <|System|> fixed
#2744 [17:41] * Emmitt sighs
#2744 [17:42] <Emmitt> So what does one do when one reaches the nether?
#2745 [17:42] <Kealper> Emmitt: you have to build a portal to get there
#2746 [17:42] <Emmitt> I've reached there
#2747 [17:42] <Kealper> OH
#2748 [17:42] <Emmitt> But what do I do there?
#2749 [17:42] <Kealper> misread
#2750 [17:43] <Kealper> uhh....
#2751 [17:43] <Kealper> right now the only real point of the nether is for harvesting Glowstone
#2752 [17:43] <Kealper> aside from being cool lol
#2753 [17:46] <relsqui> also soul sand
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#2756 [17:50] <Emmitt> I need to make it so that Minecraft doesn't lag on my computer
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#2758 [17:51] <Emmitt> Which is quite rediculous being that I can run Audiosurf on max quality if I want
#2759 [17:51] <Ixonian> Pardon, is Minecraft.net still down?
#2760 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> AudioSurf doesn't requre nearly the resources that Minecraft does.
#2761 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> It goes up and down all the time Ixonian
#2762 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> I bet your computer can run NetHack really well, too.
#2763 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> If it's down, just wait an hour''
#2764 [17:52] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: NetHack?! no way, my computer can't even run that!
#2765 [17:53] <Mathuin> I <3 nethack
#2766 [17:53] <Mathuin> It got me a JOB once.
#2767 [17:53] <Mathuin> Maybe MC will do the same.
#2768 [17:53] <Kealper> o.o
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#2770 [17:53] <Mathuin> Door hinge bad, torches good.
#2771 [17:54] <Kealper> oh....dope can i nerdrage at you for a sec?
#2772 [17:54] <Ixonian> Just to be sure, I can log into my own server perfectly fine, but my friends can´t join. Is that because of minecraft.net being unstable at the moment?
#2773 [17:54] <Mathuin> Ixonian: it could also be due to firewall issues, if you're going in locally and they're coming in over the internet to your house or something.
#2774 [17:55] <|System|> !isdown minecraft.net
#2775 [17:55] <GreyBot> |System|: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2776 [17:55] <Ixonian> We use Hamachi, and they also get in and the world starts generating, then BAM they disconnect
#2777 [17:55] <Kealper> |System|: can you like...not reach minecraft.net or something?
#2778 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Ew, hamachi
#2779 [17:55] <|System|> Its just one of those days today
#2780 [17:55] <Mathuin> ... I haven't seen my telephone in hours.
#2781 [17:56] <Ixonian> What confuse me is that they actually get into the game, then when the world is generated they dc
#2782 [17:57] <Mathuin> Ixonian: could your server be running low on ram?
#2783 [17:57] <Kealper> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait
#2784 [17:57] <Ixonian> Dont think so, the server is far from overloaded or anything, it reports the situation as normal
#2785 [17:58] <Kealper> Ixonian: happens to everyone who tried to connect, except you?
#2786 [17:58] * GreyVulpine bets it's the NIC
#2786 [17:58] <Kealper> it's either shitty internet bandwidth or shitty NIC
#2787 [17:59] <Kealper> Ixonian: http://speedtest.net select the default server, post your speed test result in here (it gives you a link at the end of the test)
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#2789 [17:59] <EmpiresBane> hrm.... wrong button
#2790 [17:59] <Ixonian> I´ll give it a go, and also pardon a fellow noob, but what is NIC?
#2791 [17:59] <Kealper> Network Interface Card
#2792 [18:02] <Mathuin> Okay, the code is locally committed, performing the final two tests...
#2793 [18:02] <Ixonian> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1156360438.png
#2794 [18:02] <SkiingPenguins> :O
#2795 [18:02] <Mathuin> I'm jealous of your bandwidth.
#2796 [18:02] <Kealper> gah!
#2797 [18:02] <Kealper> you dang swedes! :P
#2798 [18:03] <Ixonian> So that can´t be the problem then I´m sure >.<
#2799 [18:03] <Kealper> just curious, how much do you pay a month for that?
#2800 [18:04] <Kealper> Ixonian: also, can i connect to your server to see if it works fine for me? if it does, then we know the problem is on your friends' end
#2801 [18:04] <Ixonian> About 92 dollars per month, and I also got an update on the situation
#2802 [18:05] <AG_Clinton> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1156364072.png
#2803 [18:05] <Kealper> 92 us dollars? or swedish currency?
#2804 [18:05] <AG_Clinton> I pay $100/month for that POS.
#2805 [18:05] <SkiingPenguins> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1156363452.png <- :/
#2806 [18:05] <Ixonian> I logged out of my own server, then my friend got in. But when I logged in to greet him, he disconnected with the message "lost connection: disconnect.overflow"
#2807 [18:05] <Ixonian> 92 US dollars
#2808 [18:05] <Kealper> oh, that's a bit pricy lol
#2809 [18:05] <Ixonian> About 600 swedish Kronor
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#2811 [18:06] <Kealper> mine is about 24mbps down and 10mbps up for ~$65
#2812 [18:08] <Ixonian> So do you think the server overloads when we´re both on the server? I´ve never had this problem before
#2813 [18:09] <Ixonian> Also I am afraid you need to use hamachi in order to join my server, I think
#2814 [18:10] <Kealper> ugh...lol
#2815 [18:10] <Kealper> guess that test is out of the question then :/
#2816 [18:11] <Kealper> Ixonian: how much ram does your computer have, are you using the server exe or the server jar, and can they connect fine when you do not have the client running?
#2817 [18:12] <Ixonian> [INFO] Gr?c?l?m?n [Server IP] logged in with entity id -- [INFO] Ixonian [Server IP] logged in with entity id -- [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? [INFO] Gr?c?l?m?n lost connection: disconnect.overflow [INFO] Disconnecting /--: Took too long to log in [INFO]
#2818 [18:13] <Ixonian> The server message when I attempted to log in when my friend finally managed to get in
#2819 [18:13] <Ixonian> I edited some security sensitive parts of course
#2820 [18:13] <Ixonian> *edited out
#2821 [18:13] <Kealper> i smell a crappy NIC then
#2822 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Same
#2823 [18:14] <Kealper> there is a potential fix, though
#2824 [18:14] <Ixonian> The thing is that we have never had this problem before, only tonight
#2825 [18:14] <Kealper> oh?
#2826 [18:15] <Kealper> have you restarted the computer, and has anything changed? (antivirus suites, firewalls?)
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#2828 [18:15] <weirdo> anybody here?
#2829 [18:15] <Kealper> no
#2830 [18:15] <weirdo> :D
#2831 [18:15] <Ixonian> The firewall is off, the anti virus is on, but that had never been a problem before
#2832 [18:16] <weirdo> im having trouble with my server sadly
#2833 [18:16] <weirdo> my friend is connected and playing
#2834 [18:16] <Kealper> livnmi.sbcglobal.net....do you live in Livonia? lol
#2835 [18:16] <weirdo> I cant connect to my own server
#2836 [18:16] <weirdo> oh hey im michigan too
#2837 [18:16] <Kealper> <-- port huron
#2838 [18:16] <weirdo> chesterfield here
#2839 [18:16] <Kealper> anywho
#2840 [18:17] <Kealper> what ip are you using to connect?
#2841 [18:17] <weirdo> localhost
#2842 [18:17] <weirdo> and sec
#2843 [18:17] <Kealper> is your server running on your own computer?
#2844 [18:17] <weirdo> 99.188.201.191
#2845 [18:17] <weirdo> yes
#2846 [18:17] <weirdo> says failed to login bad login
#2847 [18:17] <Kealper> does localhost work?
#2848 [18:18] <Kealper> o.o
#2849 [18:18] <weirdo> no
#2850 [18:18] <Kealper> might be something with minecraft.net being squirrelly
#2851 [18:18] <weirdo> damn
#2852 [18:18] <weirdo> that is so sad he can play on my comp but I cant
#2853 [18:18] <Kealper> stop the server, go in to server.properties, and change online-mode to false
#2854 [18:18] <weirdo> alright
#2855 [18:18] <weirdo> ill check that fast
#2856 [18:18] <Kealper> save, restart server
#2857 [18:19] <weirdo> now it says end of stream
#2858 [18:19] <Mathuin> griiiiiiiiiiind this takes forever.
#2859 [18:19] <Kealper> O.o
#2860 [18:20] <Kealper> weirdo: does it say end of stream each time?
#2861 [18:20] <weirdo> now back to bad login im assuming it will stay at bad login
#2862 [18:20] <weirdo> no just that one time
#2863 [18:20] <weirdo> oh silly me didnt save and close notepad, one sec
#2864 [18:20] <Kealper> and it's saying bad login even after you restarted the server in offline mode?
#2865 [18:20] <Kealper> ugh lol
#2866 [18:21] <weirdo> damn same thing
#2867 [18:21] <Kealper> you actually stopped the server and started it back up, right?
#2868 [18:21] <weirdo> omg lol didnt stop server
#2869 [18:21] <weirdo> now one sec
#2870 [18:21] <weirdo> sorry im herpaderpin
#2871 [18:21] <Kealper> lol
#2872 [18:22] <weirdo> yay im in
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#2874 [18:22] <weirdo> now how can he join too
#2875 [18:22] <Kealper> same way he always did
#2876 [18:22] <weirdo> but its at false
#2877 [18:22] <weirdo> online mode
#2878 [18:22] <Kealper> that online mode just means that the server will check minecraft.net to make sure the people paid
#2879 [18:22] <weirdo> ooohhh
#2880 [18:23] <weirdo> alright then
#2881 [18:23] <weirdo> mucho gracias
#2882 [18:23] <Kealper> also, type ban Player into your server console
#2883 [18:23] <Ixonian> *Puts on detective glasses* So. DID he pay monseiur?
#2884 [18:23] <weirdo> wait why would I ban myself
#2885 [18:23] <weirdo> he did pay lol
#2886 [18:23] <Ixonian> Just pulling your leg xD
#2887 [18:24] <weirdo> kealper why should I put ban player in my console
#2888 [18:24] <Kealper> the username "Player" is the default one when people don't log in to their clients, and just use offline mode option in their client
#2889 [18:25] <weirdo> so it bans people pirating the game?
#2890 [18:25] <Kealper> normally the server will check minecraft.net and see that Player is not a valid account, and denies that person entry
#2891 [18:26] <weirdo> alright I only plan on using it for me and my few friends, there isnt anyway for people to find my server anyways is there
#2892 [18:26] <Kealper> alright then lol
#2893 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> There is no master list of beta servers out there.
#2894 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Other beta server listing sites, you have to opt in, and give your info to yourself
#2895 [18:27] <weirdo> ok
#2896 [18:27] * Kealper still has that username banned on his server for when he runs his in offline mode
#2896 [18:27] <weirdo> well back to minecraft, thanks again kealper
#2897 [18:27] <Ixonian> Me and my friend gave up by the way, we´ll try tomorrow and see if it´s any better
#2898 [18:29] <Ixonian> I wish there where reliable IRC´s for computers as well xD
#2899 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
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#2901 [18:30] <Ixonian> I have a huge problem with my computer, but after weeks of failing to fix it I´ve decided to just clean it out and install another OP
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#2904 [18:33] <Ixonian> The thing was that when I went on a vacation a few months back I allowed my friend to use my NEW computer whilst I was gone. But alas at arriving home, whenever I start it I always get a "Catalyst Control Center has crashed" and whatever I do I can´t fix it. So since it can´t update my graphics card I´m pretty screwed xD
#2905 [18:34] <Kealper> sounds like it's time to reinstall windows then lol
#2906 [18:35] <Mathuin> Woo hoo!
#2907 [18:36] <Mathuin> It works on Provincetown.
#2908 [18:36] <Ixonian> Yeah that is my plan. I am going to totally clean out my computer and then install Windows 7
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#2910 [18:41] <findow> Hello?
#2911 [18:41] <relsqui> 'lo
#2912 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#2913 [18:41] <findow> I can't upload my skin.
#2914 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> why's that?
#2915 [18:42] <findow> Using the latest SkinEdit.
#2916 [18:42] <findow> I dunno, it doesn't give me an error message.
#2917 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> And how are you uploading?
#2918 [18:42] <Mathuin> ... and it works on Block Island. Win!
#2919 [18:42] <findow> It loads, then it's not there when I check.
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#2921 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2922 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> How are you checking
#2923 [18:42] <findow> one sec.
#2924 [18:43] <findow> http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=thorvan
#2925 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Check in-game
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#2927 [18:43] <findow> I just uploaded the skin, the page loaded, and it's not there.
#2928 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Previewing skins, I believe, is still disabled
#2929 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Uploading skins should work
#2930 [18:43] <findow> Is it?
#2931 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#2933 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Try confirming in-game
#2934 [18:44] <findow> Oh, okay.
#2935 [18:44] <findow> Thanks, I'll check.
#2936 [18:44] <fogWraith> Rawr
#2937 [18:46] <findow> Oh hey, it works.
#2938 [18:46] <findow> Idiot, I should have checked that before.
#2939 [18:46] <findow> Thanks!
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#2941 [18:47] <deem> it ... takes ... sooo ... loooong
#2942 [18:47] <Kealper> you hath brought this upon thine self!
#2943 [18:47] <deem> oh well
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#2945 [18:48] <Ixonian> I cant see the skins on the minecraft.net at all, been like that for a month now. Sure I can upload new skins, but I can never preview them on the site which is kinda sad
#2946 [18:48] <Kealper> Ixonian: disabled since the major server fail and the beginning of the musical servers game
#2947 [18:49] <Vek> Are there any public servers?
#2948 [18:49] <Ixonian> Ah, thanks nice to know
#2949 [18:49] <Kealper> http://mcserverlist.net
#2950 [18:49] <deem> it was more like: Me to my gf: "Hey we should build sth interesting in MC" she: "hmhm ... oohh we should build the white tower!" me: "oh ok cool, it´s big isnt it?" she: "yes, but it should work with the height"
#2951 [18:49] <Vek> Kealper: thanks
#2952 [18:49] <Kealper> deem: maybe you should have went with a scale model lol
#2953 [18:50] <deem> 2 hours later ... she: "i just asked my friend and yes he has a picture of the tower, the base is 4km x 7km and we will build it 1:1!"
#2954 [18:50] <deem> recognized the "will"? it´s my gf there is no discussion -.-
#2955 [18:50] <Kealper> xD
#2956 [18:54] <Mathuin> How tall is the white tower?
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#2959 [18:58] <ConMan8> That's going to be a short, fat tower if you build it 1:1
#2960 [18:58] <AppLeNaToR> Good evening again...
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#2962 [18:59] <deem> well the island itself is 4x7 km
#2963 [18:59] <deem> the tower just takes "small" space on that area
#2964 [18:59] <Mathuin> deem: what's the maximum altitude above sea level?
#2965 [18:59] <AppLeNaToR> question to all server admins. What could it be, that when i connect to a Server which i set up (32Mbit down, 3Mbit upload line) i have hughe lags, but on another server (like from minecraft.de) it runs pretty smooth.
#2966 [19:00] <deem> you have 128 blocks in height at all
#2967 [19:00] <deem> we´ll build it up to 113 blocks i think it was
#2968 [19:00] <Mathuin> AppLeNaToR: How's your RAM?
#2969 [19:00] <AppLeNaToR> When iam connected to my server, the Client Upload-rate is going pretty high. This does not happen when i connect to another server. So it seems to be not client-based. Any clue what that could be?
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#2971 [19:00] <Mathuin> deem: if there really isn't anything belowground, sure.
#2972 [19:01] <AppLeNaToR> Server console ~60mb, the process itself reserves aprox 150-200.
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#2974 [19:01] <Mathuin> Do you have much more than that?
#2975 [19:01] <AppLeNaToR> 3gb available
#2976 [19:01] <deem> err we will even start on level 14 so it´s 114 blocks high so we do have a bit space to the bottom
#2977 [19:02] <AppLeNaToR> well not 3gb free, but 3gb systemram + OS and not much more
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#2979 [19:02] <Cam> uh
#2980 [19:02] <deem> the island itself will be pretty plain so we still have somewhat deep water
#2981 [19:02] <AppLeNaToR> when i connect to that server localy (same machine) its running good.
#2982 [19:03] <Cam> I need help with classic in browser
#2983 [19:03] <Mathuin> I can't think of anything off the top of my head, AppLeNaToR, except maybe your ISP hates you.
#2984 [19:04] <Cam> can i have some help?
#2985 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> With
#2986 [19:04] <AppLeNaToR> loo
#2987 [19:04] <AppLeNaToR> l
#2988 [19:04] <AppLeNaToR> what iam wondering
#2989 [19:04] <AppLeNaToR> why is my ClIENT upload going crazy when iam on my server
#2990 [19:05] <AppLeNaToR> that seems mainly to cause the lags
#2991 [19:05] <AppLeNaToR> when i stand still for 5 minutes it will settle
#2992 [19:05] <AppLeNaToR> but if i start moving more than 20 blocks it goes crazy again.
#2993 [19:05] <AppLeNaToR> which is not the case on another server. i really can't see the reason :(
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#2996 [19:06] <deem> cam i´d say just throw in your question and you may get an answer
#2997 [19:07] <Cam> my classic singleplayer (in browser) isnt working i just get a black screen
#2998 [19:09] <deem> first things coming to my mind are: what broser? any addons for that browser which may block things. / firewall? / minecraft servers (went on-/offline somehow often today)
#2999 [19:09] <arensirb> I use chrome, the beta browser one didnt start here.
#3000 [19:09] <arensirb> just turns out white :P
#3001 [19:10] <deem> hey guys with the @ ... go help! ;) - i have no clue :(
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#3005 [19:18] <nevercast> Hoi Hoi
#3006 [19:18] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Kealper, Xales, fogWraith, Hey ^_^
#3007 [19:20] <Mathuin> http://i.imgur.com/sOfrg.png <-- doesn't *look* that different, but trust me, it is.
#3008 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#3009 [19:21] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, How're you?
#3010 [19:25] <deem> hmm
#3011 [19:25] <deem> in what way is it different?
#3012 [19:26] <Mathuin> The house is different, and the surrounding terrain is a little different.
#3013 [19:26] <Mathuin> There's also depth in the water.
#3014 [19:26] <Mathuin> (if you have a pond that's 10 units across, it'll be 5 units deep at the center)
#3015 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: not bad; and yourself?
#3016 [19:31] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, A'ight ae
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#3019 [19:34] <deem> so you try to rebuild sth from reality or is it just imagination?
#3020 [19:34] <Miniminers512> Herro
#3021 [19:34] <Mathuin> deem: you asking me?
#3022 [19:35] <deem> yes
#3023 [19:35] <Mathuin> What you saw there is based on actual real data from the USGS with regard to elevation and land cover.
#3024 [19:35] <Mathuin> Where the real world has sand, I have sand -- and a chance at cactus. :-)
#3025 [19:36] <deem> usgs? united states geo....?
#3026 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> !wiki USGS
#3027 [19:36] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Geological_Survey
#3028 [19:36] <GreyBot> The United States Geological Survey (USGS) is a scientific agency of the United States government. The scientists of the USGS study the landscape of the United States, its natural resources, and the natural hazards that threaten it. The organization has four major science disciplines, concerning biology, geography, geology, and hydrology. The USGS is a fact-finding research organization
#3029 [19:36] <GreyBot> with no regulatory responsibility.
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#3031 [19:36] * GreyVulpine points
#3031 [19:36] <deem> not that bad!
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#3033 [19:36] <Mathuin> At this point, due to how I gather the data, I'm limited to elevation and land cover.
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#3035 [19:37] <deem> so "where" are you at the moment? :)
#3036 [19:37] <Mathuin> If I can get the transportation layer, maybe I can fantasize about putting minecart tracks and boosters where the real world has interstates. :-)
#3037 [19:38] <Mathuin> Where I am has lots of trees and some suburbs. Not too much sand.
#3038 [19:38] <Mathuin> But Block Island and Provincetown are places I used to visit a lot when I lived back east.
#3039 [19:38] <Miniminers512> Hey dose anyone know anythig aboute sdk's gun mod?
#3040 [19:38] <deem> :)
#3041 [19:39] <Mathuin> But with this tool, and some serious elevation license in some cases, I can map just about anywhere in America.
#3042 [19:39] <deem> i do like the idea but the height limitations ... i dont know thats just frustrating imo
#3043 [19:40] <Mathuin> It is totally frustrating, especially since I've been keeping to 64 as my sea level.
#3044 [19:40] <Mathuin> I may move it down to 32, just to give myself more room.
#3045 [19:41] <deem> you should i guess but what´s the height difference between the extremes? i mean rocky mountains and some part of the land below the level of the water surface?
#3046 [19:42] <Mathuin> I actually did some thinking about that.
#3047 [19:42] <Mathuin> The lowest I'd be willing to go for sea level is 16.
#3048 [19:42] <Mathuin> Assume another 16 for buildings at "the top of the world".
#3049 [19:42] <Miniminers512> Hey is there a map gen that generates a full town??
#3050 [19:42] <Mathuin> You then have 96 units of 'space'.
#3051 [19:43] <Miniminers512> Or a house
#3052 [19:43] <deem> miniminers there´s some stuff you can import into map generators
#3053 [19:43] <Mathuin> Pike's Peak in Colorado is 4302 meters high.
#3054 [19:43] <Mathuin> So I could get that at a vertical scale of like 45.
#3055 [19:43] <deem> when you check the forums you´ll find some .schedules you can import into mcedit e.g.
#3056 [19:43] <Mathuin> Miniminers512: the software I just released will build a two-story stone-and-glass building with stairs and torches.
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#3058 [19:44] <Mathuin> But it is otherwise a bit complicated and that may not be worth it to you.
#3059 [19:44] <JohnB> o.o
#3060 [19:44] <Miniminers512> Mathuin is it downloadable yet?
#3061 [19:44] <deem> so what is your goal then?
#3062 [19:44] <Mathuin> Miniminers512: yes, but you have to know Python to get the most out of it.
#3063 [19:45] <Miniminers512> Oh
#3064 [19:45] <Mathuin> deem: my goal is to see just how much reality I can pack into the game.
#3065 [19:45] <Miniminers512> Dang
#3066 [19:45] <deem> like mapping the us in a scale or just get some ... ok thats nice :)
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#3068 [19:46] <deem> i thought about rebuilding the eifel tower but then again ... it´s the height...
#3069 [19:46] <Mathuin> deem: and if I can get the server to download USGS data for newly generated content, then I could do something like hike the appalachian trail, or follow the path of Lewis and Clark.
#3070 [19:47] <Mathuin> But the Y value has to be dialed up to a shitload above 128 for that.
#3071 [19:47] <The> try to make a sentence without 'the'
#3072 [19:47] * Mathuin can express himself without using definite articles.
#3072 [19:48] <Miniminers512> It would be nice to have a mod that can exeed the height limit
#3073 [19:48] <nevercast> The, maybe you should change your name!
#3074 [19:48] <Mathuin> Miniminers512: if they can't blow the height limit up to a lot, I'd like to see chunks have "delta-y" values, so they can be staggered.
#3075 [19:48] <deem> so it´s like moving to THE "border" of the current map and not getting randomly generated content but data from the usgs?
#3076 [19:49] <Mathuin> deem: exactly. Walk east, and whatever's east of your position in real life gets generaetd.
#3077 [19:49] * The gves Mathuin a medal
#3077 [19:49] <Miniminers512> Mathuin I didint understand anything
#3078 [19:49] <The> gives*
#3079 [19:49] <deem> that would be epic
#3080 [19:49] <deem> tho
#3081 [19:50] <deem> only for the technical effort ...
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#3083 [19:50] <Mathuin> Miniminers512: imagine you're modeling Kansas. Everything is flat. There are the mountains on the west side. As you approach them, the average elevation of that area is higher, so those chunks would have a positive "delta-y" relative to the one you're in.
#3084 [19:50] <Mathuin> That way you're still capped at 128 in any given chunk, *but* the overall limit could be 1024 or something.
#3085 [19:51] <deem> i´m not sure the experience you get when actually running around on the server is that amazing ...
#3086 [19:51] <deem> but sure it would be could when you know that the content you enjoy was just made because you came to the "border" :)
#3087 [19:51] <deem> i like sentences with the word "the" tbh
#3088 [19:52] <Mathuin> Yep. That's one thing I really like about playing single-player, actually.
#3089 [19:52] <Miniminers512> Hmm wait if I dug really deep I wouldn't have to stop my cn tower wait then il have to re-start
#3090 [19:52] <deem> i do like the editor for such
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#3093 [19:54] <deem> only around 6800 "rows" to duplicate and the "ground" is done! :)
#3094 [19:54] <Mathuin> deem: crazy! :-)
#3095 [19:54] <Mathuin> I better start that Cape Cod run and get offline.
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#3097 [20:02] <nevercast> Faster way to clear a forrest than an Axe?
#3098 [20:02] <nevercast> Flint and Steal ^_^
#3099 [20:05] <deem> -.-
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#3103 [20:07] <Miniminers512> Hia
#3104 [20:07] <arensirb> nevercast: Not if you want the wood :P
#3105 [20:07] <deem> welcome back
#3106 [20:08] <nevercast> arensirb, That's true.
#3107 [20:08] <deem> but who wants wood when he can have ... ... ... ... ... dirt!
#3108 [20:08] <nevercast> agreed
#3109 [20:08] <nevercast> I currently have 100 dirt
#3110 [20:08] <nevercast> it's lovely
#3111 [20:09] <deem> you can throw it you can stack it you can have so much fun with it!
#3112 [20:09] <Miniminers512> I have 255
#3113 [20:09] <deem> get one more
#3114 [20:10] <Miniminers512> Why should I get one more deem?
#3115 [20:10] <nevercast> Know what
#3116 [20:10] <nevercast> it takes a bloody long time to level 100 square meters
#3117 [20:10] <deem> the binaries
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#3119 [20:10] <deem> yes
#3120 [20:11] <deem> it´s 10k blocks i think
#3121 [20:11] <nevercast> hahahahaa sheep caught on fire
#3122 [20:11] <nevercast> get out my forest stupid sheep
#3123 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: TNT makes levelling terrain fast!
#3124 [20:11] <nevercast> No it doesn't
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#3126 [20:11] <bacon> Boo
#3127 [20:11] <nevercast> then you gotta go fill in the holes
#3128 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> Also, VoxelHead is finally coming into shape :)
#3129 [20:12] <deem> not when you wanna level it up and it takes either math or alot of filling holes
#3130 [20:12] <bacon> TNT isn't fast, it takes a while to make usually
#3131 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> I just need to find my hastily-written down list of FAQs to add.
#3132 [20:12] <nevercast> Oh dear
#3133 [20:12] <nevercast> The fire kinda spread a lot more than I thought it would
#3134 [20:12] <deem> hehe
#3135 [20:12] <nevercast> There goes my super pines
#3136 [20:12] <deem> dont forget your house made of wood! ^^
#3137 [20:13] <SkiingPenguins> make it out of wool
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#3139 [20:13] <Miniminers512> Guys what is da coolest md??
#3140 [20:13] <nevercast> I haven't made that yet, deem
#3141 [20:13] <Miniminers512> Mod*
#3142 [20:14] <deem> good thing you burn down the trees then ^^
#3143 [20:14] <SkiingPenguins> Miniminers512 depends on what you want
#3144 [20:14] <nevercast> Oh crap this fire has spread further than my render distance
#3145 [20:14] <Mathuin> deem: my model of Cape Cod will have an area of 228 million units, and it will take approximately ten hours to convert the area of the world into images, probably another twelve to convert those images into Minecraft chunks.
#3146 [20:14] <nevercast> Hey! Does anyone understand how minecraft stores the maps?
#3147 [20:14] <Miniminers512> I just want anything
#3148 [20:14] <deem> copying 19.2 mio blocks yay
#3149 [20:14] <bacon> Miniminers512, to get the coolest mod all you have to do is delete the 'version' file in .minecraft\bin
#3150 [20:14] <bacon> It'll download it automatically
#3151 [20:15] <Miniminers512> Bacon what dose that mod do?
#3152 [20:15] <bacon> You should see it for yourself, it's awesome
#3153 [20:15] <deem> 10 hours on what computer? :)
#3154 [20:15] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Know how Minecraft stores maps?
#3155 [20:15] <Miniminers512> Umm kk
#3156 [20:15] <bacon> :D
#3157 [20:15] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, How each nbt file is significant in it's file location and name?
#3158 [20:16] <bacon> nevercast: In really hard to use folders that are everywhere
#3159 [20:16] <nevercast> bacon, obviously
#3160 [20:16] <nevercast> bacon, but there will be an order to it
#3161 [20:16] <deem> i hate that when you actually "save" your file in mcedit it does the lighting ... takes ages
#3162 [20:16] <deem> Mathuin: on what comp. will it take 10 hours? :)
#3163 [20:16] <nevercast> deem, I thought minecraft takes care of lighting
#3164 [20:17] <nevercast> that said.. I've got a lot of black areas
#3165 [20:17] <bacon> oh yeah, lighting is saved in the files
#3166 [20:17] <nevercast> lightless
#3167 [20:17] <nevercast> yeah it is
#3168 [20:17] <nevercast> Which is stupid btw :P
#3169 [20:17] <Miniminers512> Umm I don't see any cange
#3170 [20:17] <deem> it saves rendering when playing i guess
#3171 [20:17] <deem> i mean ressources
#3172 [20:18] <Miniminers512> Deem are you talking to me?
#3173 [20:18] <deem> referring to the ressources yes
#3174 [20:18] <deem> i tend to not adress my lines to anyone specific ... i should prolly change that
#3175 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: the file names are a base-64 encoding of the chunk coordinate
#3176 [20:19] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Care to explain it more please? :)
#3177 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> sorry, base 36
#3178 [20:19] <nevercast> Chuck is what size?
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#3180 [20:23] <deem> Mathuin: i dont even have quad core ... its an amd xwhatsoeveriforgot 2x3ghz and 4gb ram (32bit system) this machine feels slow :(
#3181 [20:23] <Mathuin> The dataset is 3076x2976. I blow it up by a factor of 5, so that's a total of 228854400 blocks, which is roughly 3492 tiles. Each tile takes about ten seconds to process. That's about nine hours forty minutes.
#3182 [20:24] <Mathuin> All-land tiles take about five seconds. It's the bathymetry stuff that slows things down.
#3183 [20:24] <Mathuin> But I like that feature, so.
#3184 [20:24] <deem> Mathuin: how did you figure the 12h import to minecraft then?
#3185 [20:24] <Mathuin> deem: that's just converting from the USGS raw data to 256x256 image tiles.
#3186 [20:25] <Mathuin> From there, it's *another* process to make Minecraft chunks.
#3187 [20:25] <Mathuin> And that'll take 40 seconds per tile.
#3188 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> "bathymetry" <3
#3189 [20:25] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Awesome. Using this knowledge I'm going to make a Map Data Reader
#3190 [20:25] <nevercast> Which will extend my NBTLib
#3191 [20:25] <nevercast> Then I can make a simpe program that finds all chunks on fire
#3192 [20:25] <nevercast> and exstinguish them
#3193 [20:25] <Mathuin> nevercast: mce.py has that as a degrief.
#3194 [20:25] <nevercast> because I have a raging forest fire ehre.
#3195 [20:25] <nevercast> *here
#3196 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Which will be obsolete soon
#3197 [20:26] <nevercast> Mathuin, I don't do Python :)
#3198 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Since Notch is planning on overhauling the save file format
#3199 [20:26] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, another format change?
#3200 [20:26] <nevercast> Eh fair enough
#3201 [20:26] <nevercast> Although I'll keep the NBTLib
#3202 [20:26] <deem> which you announced with swollen chest ^^
#3203 [20:26] <Mathuin> nevercast: ah well. :-)
#3204 [20:26] <nevercast> it's a nice format and I'll use it in future
#3205 [20:26] <Mathuin> GreyVulpine: as long as it's at least this efficient, I'm happy.
#3206 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> There were talks of converting to a sql format
#3207 [20:27] <nevercast> Mathuin, Not saying I don't understand Python. Just that I have higher preferences :)
#3208 [20:27] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, I would cry.
#3209 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> That might have just been experiments from jeb though
#3210 [20:27] <Mathuin> nevercast: to each their own.
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#3212 [20:27] <nevercast> SQL would mean something like SQLLite files
#3213 [20:27] <Mathuin> GreyVulpine: I'd sooner believe a nosql format.
#3214 [20:27] <nevercast> Which would get a massive amount of load
#3215 [20:27] <deem> i must say
#3216 [20:27] <deem> 02:03 nevercast • Faster way to clear a forrest than an Axe?
#3217 [20:27] <deem> 02:03 nevercast • Flint and Steal ^_^
#3218 [20:28] <nevercast> It also would fall over with lots of people in the world
#3219 [20:28] <xales> Kealper, what?
#3220 [20:28] <deem> makes me smile now
#3221 [20:28] <nevercast> deem, LOL
#3222 [20:28] <nevercast> deem, kinda backfired didn't it
#3223 [20:28] * GreyVulpine pokes Mathuin and nevercast with: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=157669
#3223 [20:28] <deem> backFIRED for sure ^^
#3224 [20:28] <nevercast> Da Dum Tsst
#3225 [20:28] <TheNytangel> can you put doors on minecart tracks?
#3226 [20:28] <deem> dont think so
#3227 [20:28] <deem> but
#3228 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> no, you cannot
#3229 [20:29] <TheNytangel> :(
#3230 [20:29] <deem> can you just leave out a track place a door and the cart wont stop? (didnt do anything with rails)
#3231 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> rails and doors are mutually exclusive in any block
#3232 [20:29] <TheNytangel> i think it will stop, won't it?
#3233 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> and cart loses momentum if it leaves a rail
#3234 [20:30] <Mathuin> GreyVulpine: shows he's played with it, hopefully hopefully he'll make sure it works at least this well. :-)
#3235 [20:30] * GreyVulpine nods
#3235 [20:30] <deem> you can boost it right after cant you?`
#3236 [20:30] <nevercast> right
#3237 [20:30] <nevercast> brb
#3238 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> There were little tests done on jeb's twitter, showing a slight improvement in access times with the sql format
#3239 [20:30] <nevercast> and then I'm making a MapReader
#3240 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> But I can't be arsed to search through twitter right now
#3241 [20:30] <Mathuin> I'll end up waiting for pymclevel to get ported to "the new format".
#3242 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: I asked Jeb_ about SQL saves recently, and that prospect has been abandoned :(
#3243 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Oh good
#3244 [20:31] <Mathuin> I do wish codewarrior would support inventories.
#3245 [20:31] <xales> :O
#3246 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> (recently as in, within the past week)
#3247 [20:31] <xales> DopeGhoti: was that a FAQBot I saw?
#3248 [20:31] <TheNytangel> I just thought that it would be cool to have an iron door on a minetrack and then a pressure plate like 2 in front of it so mobs can't get in
#3249 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> xales: indeed.
#3250 [20:31] <xales> \o/
#3251 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> ?? reinst/lac
#3252 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> ern
#3253 [20:31] * GreyVulpine pokes xales, "I cleaned up the banlist a bit."
#3253 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> ?? reinst/mac
#3254 [20:31] <VoxelHead> reinst/mac: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3255 [20:31] <VoxelHead> reinst/mac: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3256 [20:31] <xales> GreyVulpine: yeah, I saw
#3257 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> (for example)
#3258 [20:32] <xales> DopeGhoti: is there a list? :)
#3259 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> Not yet
#3260 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> the only FAQs in there so far are reinst/{mac,win/linux}; and mods
#3261 [20:32] <TheNytangel> well i have an idea of how it would work :/
#3262 [20:32] <xales> DopeGhoti: like, ?? mods?
#3263 [20:32] <arensirb> Does anyone know why the web-client isnt working? (beta)
#3264 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> correct
#3265 [20:33] <xales> arensirb: It works fine for most people, define "isnt working"
#3266 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#3267 [20:33] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#3268 [20:33] <bacon> so that makes three bots?
#3269 [20:33] <Mathuin> There's some evidence that MCRegion is what they'll be going with. I wonder how hard it'll be to update to that.
#3270 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Aubot, VoxelHead, GreyBot, and MCHelpBot
#3271 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> 4
#3272 [20:34] <bacon> so, why can't we just have one
#3273 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Each maintained by different people
#3274 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Different functionality, migrated over from having different duties
#3275 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> And probably not using the same language
#3276 [20:35] <arensirb> xales: I use Chrome. When I start it, it loads, asks for permission ,then goes white
#3277 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> AuBot's programmed in AutoIt, greybot in mIRC script
#3278 [20:35] <TheNytangel> I'm getting MineCraft for Valentines Day :)
#3279 [20:35] * Emmitt myawns
#3279 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> No idea what MCHelpBot or VoxelHead is programmed in
#3280 [20:35] <Emmitt> So glowstone: what does one do with it?
#3281 [20:35] <xales> arensirb: does the download client work?
#3282 [20:35] <TheNytangel> Emmit
#3283 [20:35] <xales> GreyVulpine: MCHelpBot is C, VoxelHead is an eggdrop (also C)
#3284 [20:35] <TheNytangel> you can see it under water
#3285 [20:36] * GreyVulpine pokes Emmitt with : http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Glowstone_%28Block%29
#3285 [20:36] <TheNytangel> >.>
#3286 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Ah, kay, thanks xales.
#3287 [20:36] <arensirb> xales: Yeah
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#3289 [20:36] <xales> arensirb: why not just use that then?
#3290 [20:36] <arensirb> heh
#3291 [20:36] <arensirb> *Shakes head*
#3292 [20:36] <arensirb> I ask for A, you tell me to use B
#3293 [20:37] <arensirb> And no, local client doesnt seem to be working now either
#3294 [20:37] <xales> "doesn't seem to be working" isn't exactly descriptive
#3295 [20:37] <xales> what isn't working about it?
#3296 [20:37] <nevercast> Oh that reminds me
#3297 [20:38] <nevercast> I haven't completely finished the Tag Creator yet
#3298 [20:38] <nevercast> well not the UI for it
#3299 [20:38] <arensirb> I press login, and it freezes
#3300 [20:38] <arensirb> ahh... minecraft.net down
#3301 [20:38] <xales> Has it worked before?
#3302 [20:38] <TheNytangel> minecraft.net works for me O.O
#3303 [20:38] <xales> minecraft.net is working fine for me
#3304 [20:39] <TheNytangel> ^.^
#3305 [20:41] <TheNytangel> i should really defrag my files..
#3306 [20:42] <nevercast> !isdown minecraft.net
#3307 [20:42] <GreyBot> nevercast: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#3308 [20:42] <nevercast> :)
#3309 [20:42] <TheNytangel> so what is the hardest level really..?
#3310 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Hardest.. level?
#3311 [20:42] <TheNytangel> like
#3312 [20:43] <TheNytangel> peacefull and hard and that kind of level
#3313 [20:43] <TheNytangel> whatever its called
#3314 [20:43] <deem> well i would have said lvl 0 or -64 cant beat bedrock
#3315 [20:43] <TheNytangel> >.>
#3316 [20:43] <TheNytangel> haha.. your funny
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#3319 [20:44] <deem> ouch
#3320 [20:44] <TheNytangel> this guy says normal is harder than hard
#3321 [20:44] <deem> lighting 45600 chunks ...
#3322 [20:45] <deem> that guy never played on hard then?
#3323 [20:45] <TheNytangel> he is
#3324 [20:45] <TheNytangel> and normal had more mobs
#3325 [20:45] <deem> hm ok
#3326 [20:45] <deem> on normal its harder to find that amount of enemy mobs
#3327 [20:46] <deem> so yeah
#3328 [20:46] <deem> from a special view, normal is harder
#3329 [20:46] <deem> he´ll prolly be desperate when playing on peaceful then
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#3331 [20:47] <TheNytangel> hes like "am i on peaceful? why are there no mobs? im not complaining or anything, but its strange
#3332 [20:47] <TheNytangel> "
#3333 [20:47] <deem> HUGE balls issue
#3334 [20:48] <TheNytangel> only 478 fragmented files...
#3335 [20:48] <TheNytangel> the first time i defragged, i had 16745 or something
#3336 [20:48] <TheNytangel> well im gonna go eat
#3337 [20:48] <deem> the first time i defragged was the only time i did ... back then ...
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#3339 [20:49] <DaCheat2468> i'm back with the same error
#3340 [20:50] <deem> ???
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#3342 [20:50] <deem> You are cheating i guess. :/
#3343 [20:50] <DaCheat2468> who here is higher up...
#3344 [20:50] <buddy> hi
#3345 [20:50] <DaCheat2468> NO I'm not Cheating Damnit!~
#3346 [20:50] <deem> Sry, didnt know why i assumed that.
#3347 [20:51] <DaCheat2468> my friend here buddy bought me minecraft gift code. and it doesn't work
#3348 [20:51] <DaCheat2468> now
#3349 [20:51] <buddy> hello
#3350 [20:51] <DaCheat2468> Who here is a part of support
#3351 [20:51] <DaCheat2468> yes hi buddy >.<
#3352 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Define: "Doesn't work"
#3353 [20:53] <DaCheat2468> it complains that the code is incorrect or is already used
#3354 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> And you had your buddy check his profile page, made sure the code there matches what he gave you
#3355 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> and is shown on his profile page, that it has not been redeemed yet
#3356 [20:54] <DaCheat2468> my friend and i are talking right now and we already did that dozens of times
#3357 [20:55] <DaCheat2468> does he have to enter the code?
#3358 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Have him send a screenshot of his profile page to you, make sure that the code matches what you're typing into www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#3359 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> It needs to be exactly like the format: xxxx-xxxx-xxxx
#3360 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Dashes and all
#3361 [20:57] <DaCheat2468> we never got that format
#3362 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3363 [20:57] <DaCheat2468> we got a word fraze
#3364 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> word... phrase?
#3365 [20:57] <DaCheat2468> yea
#3366 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> I've.. never heard of a minecraft gift code being a word phrase..
#3367 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Where did he get this gift code from?
#3368 [20:58] <DaCheat2468> directly from minecraft web site
#3369 [20:58] <DaCheat2468> he bought it with paypal and has the recept ready to e-mail them
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#3371 [20:58] <Soru> Wow lots of people o.o
#3372 [20:59] <DaCheat2468> GreyVulpine: well?
#3373 [20:59] <Soru> Oh yes my question
#3374 [20:59] <DaCheat2468> it's been 4 days and i haven't been getting happier...
#3375 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> Um, hmm
#3376 [20:59] <Soru> Is there any use for cacti and pumpkin pieces?
#3377 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> DaCheat2468 - If you look here:
#3378 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> http://petasus-nigrum.de/codePic.PNG
#3379 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> You'll see the format the codes that people get, are in
#3380 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Have him send you a screenshot of his profile page
#3381 [21:00] <Elvang> Cacti are for dye IIRC, and pumpkins can be made into helms and lanterns I think... Soru
#3382 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> I'm quite sure that gift codes haven't changed from the xxxx-xxxx-xxxx format
#3383 [21:01] <Soru> thank you Elvang ^^ I just started and they're taking up some space in my storage, so I was wondering ^^
#3384 [21:01] <DaCheat2468> i'm trying to post to you the email he gave me with the sentence thing :P
#3385 [21:01] <Elvang> No problem, if in doubt, check the wiki :)
#3386 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Soru - Wiki is here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#3387 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Great resource
#3388 [21:01] <nevercast> I think my program is about to crash
#3389 [21:02] <deem> how come?
#3390 [21:02] <Soru> Never crossed my mind to look for a wiki, thanks ^^
#3391 [21:02] <nevercast> deem, Because it froze :)
#3392 [21:02] <nevercast> Then I got a NullReferenceException
#3393 [21:03] <deem> dont know much about those things
#3394 [21:03] <TheNytangel> im back
#3395 [21:03] <TheNytangel> did ya miss me?
#3396 [21:04] <deem> mcedit taught me to let it run even when the gui tells me "not responding"
#3397 [21:04] <nevercast> Lol.
#3398 [21:04] <nevercast> That means bad coding :)
#3399 [21:04] <nevercast> If a program goes not responding during normal functionallity
#3400 [21:04] <deem> well there´s still the cmd thats all fine
#3401 [21:04] <nevercast> Then someone is doing time consuming tasks in the Window event thread
#3402 [21:04] <deem> (cannot "edit" there tho)
#3403 [21:04] <nevercast> What does mcedit do?
#3404 [21:05] <deem> its a map editor
#3405 [21:05] <nevercast> Ahh nice
#3406 [21:05] <deem> can do everything
#3407 [21:05] <deem> as far as i can see
#3408 [21:05] <nevercast> I have only written an NBT library
#3409 [21:05] <nevercast> which currently has a null reference
#3410 [21:05] <nevercast> but I know how to fix
#3411 [21:05] <deem> took a look at nbt today cos i thought mcedit cant handle what i wanted to do
#3412 [21:05] <deem> but nbt crashed right away
#3413 [21:06] <TheNytangel> i think i have watched too many minecraft videos
#3414 [21:06] <deem> gotta hate "out of memory" -.-
#3415 [21:06] <TheNytangel> im starting to see everything as blocks
#3416 [21:06] <deem> thats not necesseraly from watching videos of mc ;)
#3417 [21:06] <nevercast> LOL out of memory makes me rofl
#3418 [21:07] <nevercast> get { return (_nameBase == null) ? "" : _nameBase; }
#3419 [21:07] <deem> wrong spelling is wrong :(
#3420 [21:07] <nevercast> NullReferenceException fixed
#3421 [21:07] <deem> nevercast: makes me cry :(
#3422 [21:07] <nevercast> In theory
#3423 [21:07] <nevercast> deem, Who failed to spell?
#3424 [21:07] <nevercast> Oh you did lol.
#3425 [21:07] <deem> i did with neceblabla
#3426 [21:07] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Dude!
#3427 [21:07] <nevercast> TheNytangel, I know how you feel
#3428 [21:07] <TheNytangel> :P
#3429 [21:07] <nevercast> TheNytangel, I look around reality, and I see blocks
#3430 [21:08] <deem> so is your monitor 1 or 2 blocks? ^^
#3431 [21:08] <TheNytangel> do you really have to hl me in every second?
#3432 [21:08] <TheNytangel> not second
#3433 [21:08] <TheNytangel> every message
#3434 [21:08] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Sitting on the bus.. Hmm, That's a whole block there but they've used a half block on that step.. nice design
#3435 [21:08] <nevercast> Force of habit for when irc is busy
#3436 [21:08] <nevercast> It's not at the moment so I'll stop
#3437 [21:08] <TheNytangel> :)
#3438 [21:08] <TheNytangel> and what bus?
#3439 [21:08] <nevercast> Bus to course .ol.
#3440 [21:08] <nevercast> *lol.
#3441 [21:09] <TheNytangel> i have no idea what you are talking about
#3442 [21:09] <TheNytangel> so you get silent..
#3443 [21:10] <TheNytangel> you went from like "bla bla bla bla" to "..."
#3444 [21:10] <TheNytangel> no offense
#3445 [21:10] <nevercast> O.o
#3446 [21:10] <nevercast> You suck :D
#3447 [21:10] <nevercast> Hmm.. I need to add a message box on save complete
#3448 [21:10] <TheNytangel> you blow :D
#3449 [21:10] <nevercast> it saves too fast
#3450 [21:10] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Only if you ask nicely ;)
#3451 [21:10] <TheNytangel> you must be a girl? >.>
#3452 [21:11] <deem> 02:45 deem • lighting 45600 chunks ... - it now is at batch 8/16 -.-
#3453 [21:11] <TheNytangel> nevercast, if your a guy, thats just wrong
#3454 [21:11] <TheNytangel> unless..
#3455 [21:11] <TheNytangel> never mind
#3456 [21:12] <deem> why do those things take so long?
#3457 [21:12] <nevercast> TheNytangel, I'm not telling you my gender :)
#3458 [21:13] <TheNytangel> either your gay, or your a girl
#3459 [21:13] <TheNytangel> :)
#3460 [21:13] <deem> Rule No.1 on the interweb: THERE ARE NO GURLS! ;)
#3461 [21:13] <nevercast> deem, Because it's stupid calculations that should be done by the graphics card!
#3462 [21:13] <TheNytangel> deem: my sister is a girl
#3463 [21:13] <nevercast> deem, That isn't rule 1
#3464 [21:13] <TheNytangel> i would hope anyway
#3465 [21:13] <nevercast> deem, Rule one is don't talk about.. err.. nvm
#3466 [21:13] <deem> oh right
#3467 [21:13] <nevercast> TheNytangel, I'm not gay.. If that helps your quest
#3468 [21:13] <TheNytangel> your a girl
#3469 [21:14] <nevercast> I told you I'm not telling you my gender ;)
#3470 [21:14] <deem> it´s rule no. 43612967219346 then
#3471 [21:14] <TheNytangel> but your a girl
#3472 [21:14] <TheNytangel> its obvious now
#3473 [21:14] <nevercast> deem, there is no rule like that
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#3475 [21:14] <izzd> minecraft.net down?
#3476 [21:14] <TheNytangel> :o
#3477 [21:14] <nevercast> !isdown minecraft.net
#3478 [21:14] <GreyBot> nevercast: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#3479 [21:14] <nevercast> -.-"
#3480 [21:14] <TheNytangel> your name is android development?
#3481 [21:14] <deem> lemme add it to wikipedia then there is!
#3482 [21:14] <TheNytangel> nevercast, its not down
#3483 [21:14] <nevercast> TheNytangel, It's the current user I'm in on my laptop.
#3484 [21:14] <izzd> it is
#3485 [21:14] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Yeah.. I know
#3486 [21:14] <TheNytangel> try closing the tab and opening it
#3487 [21:14] <nevercast> izzd, lies
#3488 [21:15] <izzd> it just went up
#3489 [21:15] <izzd> typing in here fixes it
#3490 [21:15] <nevercast> twss
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#3492 [21:16] <Mathuin> Hah! Sure it's ten hours -- that's ten *CPU* hours. With four threads, it'll be done in 2.5.
#3493 [21:16] <TheNytangel> nevercast, what client do you use
#3494 [21:17] <Mathuin> One hour down, up to row 20 of 50something, not unreasonable.
#3495 [21:17] <nevercast> TheNytangel, XChat
#3496 [21:17] <TheNytangel> >.>
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#3498 [21:17] <TheNytangel> when did you start using it
#3499 [21:17] <deem> Mathuin: talking about your idea?
#3500 [21:18] <Mathuin> deem: yep, generating images for Cape Cod.
#3501 [21:18] <deem> :)
#3502 [21:18] <deem> good news for you then ^^
#3503 [21:18] <nevercast> derp!
#3504 [21:18] <nevercast> Framework retarget fucked everything
#3505 [21:19] <TheNytangel> brb
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#3507 [21:20] <TheNytangel> back
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#3509 [21:23] <TheNytangel> quiet in here.. with 156 people. i thought it would be chatty
#3510 [21:23] * nevercast RAGES
#3510 [21:24] <Soru> Sometimes this game scares the crap outta me
#3511 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: This isn't #flooddymcflooderson.
#3512 [21:24] <TheNytangel> never said it was.. is that even a channel?
#3513 [21:24] <kzar> Hey
#3514 [21:24] <kzar> Having some trouble getting Minecraft to even run
#3515 [21:26] <deem> what do you do to start it then?
#3516 [21:26] <TheNytangel> i have to fart.. i just hope it isnt a shart
#3517 [21:26] <kzar> running win7, but I've tried the two minecraft.exe from minecraft.net aswell as the in browser option
#3518 [21:27] <nevercast> TheNytangel, You're an idiot :)
#3519 [21:27] <kzar> tried updating java to no avail too
#3520 [21:27] <TheNytangel> only on days that end in y
#3521 [21:27] <deem> configured the firewall?
#3522 [21:27] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Which would be every day of the week. Rest my case.
#3523 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> what happens when you run it, kzar?
#3524 [21:27] <TheNytangel> that was my point..
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#3526 [21:28] * nevercast slaps TheNytangel
#3526 [21:28] <nevercast> :)
#3527 [21:28] <kzar> I get an error message, but not sure I should paste it in here incase I get kicked for spam
#3528 [21:28] <nevercast> Seems my program only builds for .NET framework 4 =/
#3529 [21:28] <nevercast> I'm going to have to work on that.
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#3532 [21:30] <deemsche> -.-
#3533 [21:30] <deemsche> 24h d/c ftw
#3534 [21:30] <kzar> DopeGhoti, It crashes with an error message
#3535 [21:31] <kzar> it states some lines of java that I can't understand and that it's encountered an error.
#3536 [21:31] <nevercast> Ya know I still haven't made that map reader -.-"
#3537 [21:32] <nevercast> Who wants to test my NBT Editor..
#3538 [21:32] <nevercast> No one?
#3539 [21:32] <DopeGhoti> kzar: is this Windows?
#3540 [21:32] <nevercast> That sucks =/
#3541 [21:32] <kzar> yes, windows 7
#3542 [21:32] <DopeGhoti> ?? reinst/win
#3543 [21:32] <VoxelHead> reinst/win: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3544 [21:32] <VoxelHead> reinst/win: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3545 [21:32] <TheNytangel> when you put in a mincecart booster, is that a bug or is it gonna be permanent?
#3546 [21:32] <TheNytangel> like, a minecart next to the main one for like 4 squares
#3547 [21:32] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: that's a bug, but one that's benevolent. Notch has mentioned plans to fix it eventually
#3548 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: but replace it with a cart-propeller block of some sort
#3549 [21:33] <TheNytangel> like the minecart with a furnace in it?
#3550 [21:33] <TheNytangel> except that needs fuel
#3551 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: no, something actually useful and faster than walking
#3552 [21:34] <nevercast> this is crazy
#3553 [21:34] <kzar> I've tried deleting the .minecraft folder between trying each of the available minecraft.exe on the site and the inbrowser option
#3554 [21:34] <DopeGhoti> kzar: and none of them work?
#3555 [21:34] <DopeGhoti> kzar: what version of Java have you got installed?
#3556 [21:36] <kzar> let me just locate that
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#3558 [21:37] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, There is also the possibility that an older version is in kzar's Environment vars?
#3559 [21:37] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: not unheard-of
#3560 [21:37] <kzar> the latest, 1.6.0 update 23
#3561 [21:38] <kzar> older version of java?
#3562 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> kzar: could you pastebin the error you're getting?
#3563 [21:38] <kzar> yea
#3564 [21:38] <nevercast> kzar, also while you're at it
#3565 [21:38] <kzar> http://pastebin.com/dGA0wrnp
#3566 [21:38] <nevercast> Press [Windows]+R
#3567 [21:38] <nevercast> To open a Run Dialog
#3568 [21:38] <nevercast> Enter 'cmd'
#3569 [21:38] <nevercast> ( without the quotes )
#3570 [21:38] <nevercast> and press Ok
#3571 [21:39] <nevercast> You're presented with a command prompt.
#3572 [21:39] <nevercast> Can you then type 'java -version'
#3573 [21:39] <nevercast> again without the quotes
#3574 [21:39] <nevercast> followed by enter.
#3575 [21:39] <xales> kzar, I recognize that
#3576 [21:39] <DopeGhoti> kzar: looks like a problem with your video drivers. Try installing the latest one from AMD
#3577 [21:39] <xales> did you try reinstalling Minecraft?
#3578 [21:39] <nevercast> ^ yes
#3579 [21:39] <nevercast> he did
#3580 [21:39] <kzar> DopeGhoti, will try that
#3581 [21:39] <xales> Did he only delete the 'bin' folder?
#3582 [21:40] <nevercast> xales, no.. Whole thing
#3583 [21:40] <kzar> no, the whole .minecraft folder
#3584 [21:40] <xales> O_o
#3585 [21:40] <DopeGhoti> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: input == null! at javax.imageio.ImageIO.read(Unknown Source)
#3586 [21:40] <DopeGhoti> ^ points at a video issue
#3587 [21:40] <nevercast> lolwat really?
#3588 [21:40] <nevercast> I would never have picked that as a video issue
#3589 [21:41] <xales> DopeGhoti: no..it doesn't
#3590 [21:41] <xales> ImageIO deals with reading/writing image files
#3591 [21:41] <nevercast> Agreed
#3592 [21:41] <kzar> Ah
#3593 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> (/me writes down GPU/{ATI,AMD,Intel,NVIDIA} as FAQ entries to add
#3594 [21:41] <nevercast> If anything I'd say it's a data problem
#3595 [21:41] <xales> http://download.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/api/javax/imageio/package-summary.html
#3596 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> xales: I stand corrected.
#3597 [21:41] <nevercast> He's not using a texture pack is he?
#3598 [21:41] <xales> kzar, you don't happen to have Norton, McAfee, or Comodo antivirus/firewall products running?
#3599 [21:41] <nevercast> Corrupt Texture file?
#3600 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> Ask him.
#3601 [21:42] <kzar> No, none of it
#3602 [21:42] <nevercast> kzar, Do you have any custom texture packs?
#3603 [21:42] <kzar> No
#3604 [21:42] <nevercast> ok
#3605 [21:42] <kzar> First time trying to run minecraft tonight
#3606 [21:42] <xales> Do you have any antivirus or firewall running?
#3607 [21:42] <xales> they could be denying Java disk access
#3608 [21:42] <DopeGhoti> kzar: This may sound outlandish, but to isolate whether it's a system or user profile problem, try crating a new Windows user, logging in as that user and playing Minecraft from there.
#3609 [21:43] <kzar> Will try new video drivers to start with
#3610 [21:43] <xales> I don't think that will do much of anything =/
#3611 [21:45] <nevercast> Hmm
#3612 [21:45] <nevercast> I don't think there would be any restrictions
#3613 [21:45] <nevercast> It installs to the current user directory after all
#3614 [21:46] <xales> Some things are just like "OMG A JAVA PROGRAM TRYING TO WRITE TO MAH HDD IT MUST BE A VIRUS LETS STOP IT AND NOT GIVE IT AN ERROR YEAH ENDHOOK() WOOT"
#3615 [21:46] <xales> lazy antivirus programmers = lazy
#3616 [21:46] <nevercast> derp
#3617 [21:46] <nevercast> yah
#3618 [21:47] <nevercast> Eventually this all comes back to my hate for java
#3619 [21:47] <nevercast> and my dislike for really slow installation programs..
#3620 [21:47] <nevercast> DAMN IT .NET 4
#3621 [21:47] <xales> lol
#3622 [21:47] <TheNytangel> and
#3623 [21:47] <TheNytangel> i just bought minecraft
#3624 [21:47] <nevercast> TheNytangel, what's your username?
#3625 [21:47] <TheNytangel> TheNytangel
#3626 [21:47] <TheNytangel> dur
#3627 [21:47] <nevercast> !paid TheNytangel
#3628 [21:48] <nevercast> :O
#3629 [21:48] <nevercast> :L
#3630 [21:48] <TheNytangel> :D
#3631 [21:48] <nevercast> oh..
#3632 [21:48] <TheNytangel> i just hope i dont lag much
#3633 [21:48] <nevercast> damn
#3634 [21:48] <nevercast> Colors are blocked
#3635 [21:48] <TheNytangel> !paid nevercast
#3636 [21:49] <nevercast> I wanted to derp AuBot
#3637 [21:49] <nevercast> Course I paid :D
#3638 [21:49] <TheNytangel> i downloaded it ilegally and then a program that makes the website say i paid
#3639 [21:49] <TheNytangel> lol jk
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#3641 [21:50] <SkiingPenguins> hahaha
#3642 [21:50] <bacon> You'd need to access AuBot to do that
#3643 [21:50] <Miniminers512> Hello
#3644 [21:51] <Miniminers512> Anyone know a house gen for minecraft???
#3645 [21:51] <SkiingPenguins> some guy in here was doing just that
#3646 [21:51] <SkiingPenguins> except he was making them in the wrong spot - in the air
#3647 [21:52] <TheNytangel> ok.. now i downloaded the minecraft thing, now how do i run it? >.<
#3648 [21:53] <Miniminers512> Grr I've been looking for a map genorator to have gun fight in with my budds
#3649 [21:53] <nevercast> I should make a find and replacer
#3650 [21:53] <nevercast> wait.. unless one already exists
#3651 [21:53] <nevercast> does mcedit have a console that i can find and replace tiles?
#3652 [21:53] <TheNytangel> or just completely ignore my question
#3653 [21:53] <TheNytangel> brb
#3654 [21:53] <xales> Miniminers512, just use like, MCEdit
#3655 [21:54] <nevercast> "ok.. now i downloaded the minecraft thing, now how do i run it? >.<
#3656 [21:54] <nevercast> <Miniminers512> Grr I've been looking for a map"
#3657 [21:54] <nevercast> LOL
#3658 [21:54] <xales> nevercast: there is a command-line version
#3659 [21:54] <nevercast> Thanks AuBot
#3660 [21:54] <nevercast> bitch.
#3661 [21:54] <xales> TheNytangel: You double click the .exe assuming you are using Windows
#3662 [21:54] <nevercast> xales, Does it support find and replace.
#3663 [21:54] <SkiingPenguins> no
#3664 [21:54] <nevercast> xales, I thought it was obvious lol.
#3665 [21:54] <xales> nevercast: no idea, haven't used it myself
#3666 [21:54] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, Right then I'm going to have to make that
#3667 [21:54] <Miniminers512> Xales isn't mcedit for macs
#3668 [21:55] <xales> Miniminers512, no
#3669 [21:55] <xales> It's written in Python
#3670 [21:55] <xales> it will run on anything that supports Python
#3671 [21:55] <xales> or, that Python supports, rather
#3672 [21:56] <Miniminers512> Dang I don't know /have python
#3673 [21:56] <nevercast> Tag_Byte_Array: Data!Value: Not Implemented Yet
#3674 [21:56] <nevercast> FUCK
#3675 [21:56] <nevercast> lol.
#3676 [21:56] <Arkose> Miniminers512: it includes what is needed
#3677 [21:56] * nevercast smackes AuBot in the face.
#3677 [21:56] <TheNytangel> well it isnt my fault that the first one i downloaded wasnt an EXE
#3678 [21:56] <Arkose> or at least it does for the WINdows version.
#3679 [21:56] <DopeGhoti> get a clue, nevercast: stop flooding.
#3680 [21:56] <xales> Miniminers512, just install it? :P
#3681 [21:56] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Flood should be based on current irc talk rate :)
#3682 [21:57] <DopeGhoti> It is: if you're currently talking faster than a certain rate, you're flooding.
#3683 [21:57] <Miniminers512> Xales can I have the thread
#3684 [21:57] <Miniminers512> I'm on mobile
#3685 [21:57] <bacon> lol
#3686 [21:57] <xales> Miniminers512, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minecraft+mcedit
#3687 [21:57] <bacon> ten-second ban for flood
#3688 [21:58] <SkiingPenguins> can you talk when banned?
#3689 [21:58] <nevercast> Right
#3690 [21:58] <xales> SkiingPenguins: no, that's the point
#3691 [21:58] <nevercast> I'm going to make a command line program to find and replace tiles
#3692 [21:58] <nevercast> It's going to find Fire
#3693 [21:58] <xales> nevercast: have fun :)
#3694 [21:58] <nevercast> Replace with Air
#3695 [21:58] <SkiingPenguins> xales it is effectively a mute?
#3696 [21:58] <xales> SkiingPenguins, yes
#3697 [21:58] <SkiingPenguins> neat
#3698 [21:59] <Miniminers512> Thanxx
#3699 [22:00] <TheNytangel> okok
#3700 [22:00] <TheNytangel> nooby question
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#3702 [22:00] <TheNytangel> how do you open your thing so you can make a crafting box
#3703 [22:00] <Arkose> press I.
#3704 [22:00] <TheNytangel> ah ha
#3705 [22:01] <TheNytangel> thx
#3706 [22:01] <Miniminers512> Yay war here I come
#3707 [22:01] <xales> !tutorial
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#3711 [22:04] * bacon needs a command list for all the bots
#3711 [22:04] <xales> ??> Matt_ dns/win
#3712 [22:04] <VoxelHead> Matt_: (dns/win) To clear your DNS cache on Windows, you need to open a Command Prompt(cmd) window as Administrator (if using 7/Vista)
#3713 [22:04] <VoxelHead> Matt_: (dns/win) In this window, you type "ipconfig /flushdns" (without the quotes) and press enter.
#3714 [22:04] <exp0> so many annoying people on the forums, I might get in trouble
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#3717 [22:08] <Kealper> ok....server issues are totally resolved now....
#3718 [22:08] <Kealper> (my server issues)
#3719 [22:09] <xales> what issues were you having?
#3720 [22:09] <Benwin> ://i55.tinypic.com/1sfmmw.png
#3721 [22:10] <Benwin> http://i55.tinypic.com/1sfmmw.png
#3722 [22:10] <Benwin> And neither of those were meant for here.
#3723 [22:10] <Benwin> derp.
#3724 [22:10] <Kealper> well....a brown-out decided to occur....and i guess this big ass CRT monitor powered on + my server = too much for my little battery backup
#3725 [22:10] <xales> lol
#3726 [22:11] <Kealper> good news, i'm super paranoid about my smp map, so like 5 sec of work was lost because i have 10 tons of backups lol
#3727 [22:14] <Kealper> aubot might DC
#3728 [22:14] <AppLeNaToR> Heya its the annoying guy who is asking silly questions again. I got another question. I found out, that my server seems to be the issue. Playing on other servers seems to be fine from my connection here. So. What could be the reason, that on my "private" server, my client upload is going crazy? Server is running on a quadcore 3g ram and 32Mbit down / 3mbit upload.
#3729 [22:14] <xales> Are you running any mods on the server?
#3730 [22:14] <AppLeNaToR> no
#3731 [22:14] <xales> also, "private" meaning...?
#3732 [22:15] <AppLeNaToR> its a pc i got local access to
#3733 [22:15] <AppLeNaToR> and only me and some of my friends know the ip
#3734 [22:16] <xales> do other people experience the upload spiking?
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#3736 [22:16] <mib_b3a9ug> howdy
#3737 [22:16] <AppLeNaToR> sadly their router cant monitor that. but they also got lags. even when iam not on the server
#3738 [22:16] <mib_b3a9ug> anybody know how to fix the black screen of death
#3739 [22:17] <xales> mib_b3a9ug: that isn't very descriptive
#3740 [22:17] <xales> when do you get it, and what are you doing at the time
#3741 [22:17] <mib_b3a9ug> black screen every 15-30 mins
#3742 [22:17] <mib_b3a9ug> just playing minecraft
#3743 [22:17] <xales> AppLeNaToR: it sounds like a misconfiguration on the server, possibly
#3744 [22:17] <mib_b3a9ug> multiplayer
#3745 [22:17] <xales> mib_b3a9ug: try turning down the view distance one notch, under "settings"
#3746 [22:17] <mib_b3a9ug> happens on 2 servers that I frequent, my own and also sincraft server
#3747 [22:18] <mib_b3a9ug> are you sure that is the only solution? I like being able to see forever
#3748 [22:18] <Kealper> amazing....aubot didn't DC
#3749 [22:18] <xales> just try it
#3750 [22:18] <mib_b3a9ug> I dont lag at all and it happens underground
#3751 [22:18] <mib_b3a9ug> alright
#3752 [22:18] <xales> some people have that issue
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#3755 [22:18] <mib_b3a9ug> I dont have enough time tonight but I will tomorrow, thanks for the advice
#3756 [22:18] * Kealper just unplugged his switch and plugged it back in to a different plug
#3756 [22:19] <HATRIX> Hello everyone
#3757 [22:19] <xales> hi
#3758 [22:19] <xales> ??> HATRIX dns/mac
#3759 [22:19] <VoxelHead> HATRIX: (dns/mac) To clear your DNS cache on Mac OS X Leopard/Snow Leopard (10.5+), open a Terminal window (in Applications->Utilities)
#3760 [22:19] <VoxelHead> HATRIX: (dns/mac) In this window, type "sudo dscacheutil -flushcache" (no quotes) and press enter.
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#3762 [22:20] <AppLeNaToR> hmm i guessed so as well xales, but i don't know what it could be. what i did where some "tweaks" which where suggested by another forum. I had an issue that even when i connected localy to that server (on the same machine) the whole network died. Solved that by turning off the "flow controll" in the network adapter settings. Could that be the reason?
#3763 [22:21] <AppLeNaToR> just came into my head. Was not thinking about that before, as that was the only way how i could play on that machine
#3764 [22:21] <xales> no, unlikely
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#3766 [22:22] <nevercast> DAMN IT
#3767 [22:22] <nevercast> Visual Studio on my desktop is outdated
#3768 [22:22] <nevercast> Doesn't support .NET 4
#3769 [22:22] <nevercast> hence my library
#3770 [22:23] <HATRIX> okay,
#3771 [22:23] <HATRIX> it asks for a password
#3772 [22:23] <HATRIX> which password is this?
#3773 [22:23] <nevercast> HATRIX, what are you trying to do?
#3774 [22:23] <HATRIX> empty the DNS cache
#3775 [22:23] <HATRIX> for the first time.
#3776 [22:23] <xales> HATRIX: your login password
#3777 [22:23] <HATRIX> i'm not on the list of sudoers
#3778 [22:24] <HATRIX> but the administrative password didn't work either.
#3779 [22:24] <nevercast> HATRIX, are you able to use
#3780 [22:24] <nevercast> su AdminUser
#3781 [22:24] <TheNytangel> !paid KaceyPeterson
#3782 [22:25] <xales> HATRIX: you need to be an administrator on the computer
#3783 [22:25] <HATRIX> so i should switch to that user?
#3784 [22:25] <HATRIX> and the command will work?
#3785 [22:25] <xales> yes
#3786 [22:25] <HATRIX> okay, sweet.
#3787 [22:25] <HATRIX> and what will that do, essentially.
#3788 [22:26] <HATRIX> it will empty the cache, but whta is the DNScache for?
#3789 [22:26] <xales> HATRIX: DNS maps a domain (google.com, minecraft.net) to an IP address
#3790 [22:26] <xales> the DNS cache stores these matches, so it doesn't need to look them up every time you need to use it
#3791 [22:26] <HATRIX> So emptying the cache in safari doesn't cut it?
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#3793 [22:27] <xales> HATRIX, correct
#3794 [22:27] <HATRIX> okay
#3795 [22:27] <HATRIX> i will be right back
#3796 [22:27] <xales> ok
#3797 [22:30] <TheNytangel> !paid KaceyPeterson
#3798 [22:30] <HATRIX> okay
#3799 [22:30] <HATRIX> done
#3800 [22:30] <HATRIX> testing now
#3801 [22:30] <HATRIX> sweet
#3802 [22:31] <AppLeNaToR> xales, how important is the server-ip in the server config file
#3803 [22:31] <Kealper> very
#3804 [22:31] <xales> AppLeNaToR: it shouldn't be there, unless you know why you would need it
#3805 [22:31] <Kealper> it should be blank
#3806 [22:31] <HATRIX> oh nvm
#3807 [22:31] <xales> ^
#3808 [22:31] <HATRIX> Minecraft still broken. =/
#3809 [22:31] <AppLeNaToR> okay, it is :)
#3810 [22:31] <TheNytangel> someone have a server i could join?
#3811 [22:31] <TheNytangel> im bored
#3812 [22:31] <Kealper> if it's set incorrectly then nothing will work :/
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#3814 [22:31] <Kealper> TheNytangel: /join #smp
#3815 [22:31] <AppLeNaToR> if its blank it should work then?
#3816 [22:32] <Kealper> also, http://mcserverlist.net
#3817 [22:32] <AppLeNaToR> just trying to find the reason why my server seems to perform so bad
#3818 [22:32] <Kealper> AppLeNaToR: should, if ports are forwarded
#3819 [22:32] <Kealper> AppLeNaToR: server's specs?
#3820 [22:32] <AppLeNaToR> quadcore E9400, 3gig ram winxp gigabit network 32Mbit Down, 3Mbit upload
#3821 [22:33] <Kealper> same system you are trying to play it from?
#3822 [22:33] <AppLeNaToR> i don't know if you remember me i am the guy who had problems with wierd upload-speeds on his client. It seems to be the server as when iam connecting to oterh clients its fine.
#3823 [22:33] <Kealper> ahh yes....lol
#3824 [22:34] <AppLeNaToR> First time i played from the same system, the whole network died. Then i did certain "fixes" which i found online (like turning off certain things in the network configuration) then i could play localy
#3825 [22:35] <AppLeNaToR> but when i connect through the internet, my client is lagging like hell and the upload is going crazy (as you remember now ;) ) but this seems to only happen on my server. But i just cant figure out why.
#3826 [22:35] <Kealper> ok so....lemme see if i got the skinny on this
#3827 [22:35] <AppLeNaToR> one of those fixes was turning off the flow controll
#3828 [22:35] <Kealper> when you join your own server, your client just goes nuts with the upload, but is fine on servers hosted elsewhere?
#3829 [22:36] <AppLeNaToR> yeppa
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#3832 [22:36] <Kealper> have you CONFIRMED that it is your client and not your server? because the server is constantly sending HUGE ammounts of data back to the clients
#3833 [22:37] <AppLeNaToR> yes :) 2 different buildings
#3834 [22:37] <AppLeNaToR> my server is actually my work pc ;)
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#3836 [22:37] <Kealper> that's weird
#3837 [22:37] <AppLeNaToR> when my friends connect to it, they also have lags (but i dont know about their upload.)
#3838 [22:37] <Kealper> is it running right now? i would like to check out my client to see if it freaks out on your server
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#3840 [22:38] <Kealper> if you don't mind, ofcourse
#3841 [22:38] <AppLeNaToR> gimme a sec
#3842 [22:38] <AppLeNaToR> playing wot right now ;) but yea wel try that
#3843 [22:39] <AppLeNaToR> if you got some time
#3844 [22:39] <Miniminers512> Hey is there any mods that will get you a bunch new animals mot just like sharks
#3845 [22:39] <Kealper> give me a sec to relog on to the admin account on this machine so i can view resource monitor while running minecraft
#3846 [22:40] <Miniminers512> Not*
#3847 [22:40] <xales> ??> Miniminers512 mods
#3848 [22:40] <VoxelHead> Miniminers512: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3849 [22:40] <VoxelHead> Miniminers512: (mods) For assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft; Mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3850 [22:40] <Kealper> <disregard me>Mo' Creatures</disregard me>
#3851 [22:41] <Kealper> but don't expect me to tell you how to use it or where to get it, if you can't figure it out, you should not be modding in the first place
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#3853 [22:41] <Miniminers512> I can mod but I just can't find any that will help me
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#3855 [22:42] <Kealper> well, i just said the exact name of the mod you want, it's called Mo' Creatures
#3856 [22:43] <Miniminers512> Ok
#3857 [22:43] <Miniminers512> Thanks
#3858 [22:43] <xales> ??> Miniminers512 google
#3859 [22:43] <VoxelHead> Miniminers512: (google) http://google.com/ is your friend. Do not expect us to find things for you, when you are just as capable of using Google on your own. We aren't your personal Internet guide.
#3860 [22:45] <Miniminers512> Ok sorry I just find it better from other people because they might know wich ones to use
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#3863 [22:45] <Kealper> xales: having fun with the FAQ bot? lol
#3864 [22:45] <Miniminers512> Voxelhead il keep it in mind ;)
#3865 [22:45] <xales> Kealper, indeed
#3866 [22:45] <xales> Miniminers512: VoxelHead is a bot
#3867 [22:45] <xales> >.>
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#3869 [22:45] <Kealper> XD
#3870 [22:46] <Miniminers512> Lol
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#3872 [22:46] <Miniminers512> He's also my best friend
#3873 [22:46] <Miniminers512> ;)
#3874 [22:46] <xales> lol
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#3876 [22:49] <nevercast> xales, are you good with the logic of redstone?
#3877 [22:50] <nevercast> ie. have you used it?
#3878 [22:50] <xales> not much
#3879 [22:51] <Miniminers512> Hey umm is there a channel for textur pack help or can I just get help here
#3880 [22:51] <xales> Just ask, if you have a question.
#3881 [22:51] <nevercast> Yeah I'm making a clock
#3882 [22:51] <nevercast> and I think some of my torches might be too close
#3883 [22:52] <xales> Texturepacks are part of the core game; texturepacks with a high resolution are mods
#3884 [22:52] <nevercast> because redstone goes up diagonally
#3885 [22:52] <Miniminers512> Ok so I downloaded a texure pack called mixcraft
#3886 [22:53] <Miniminers512> But I'm kindof having trouble instaling it I've seen many vids on how to instal but none helped
#3887 [22:54] <xales> What are you doing to 'install' it?
#3888 [22:54] <nevercast> xales, wondering if you knew how the redstone logic works
#3889 [22:54] <nevercast> how I can get a signal to a torch
#3890 [22:54] <nevercast> perhaps without being directly behind it
#3891 [22:54] <xales> nevercast: no idea, ask Kealper
#3892 [22:54] <Kealper> rawr?
#3893 [22:54] <nevercast> My Clock, Kealper
#3894 [22:55] <nevercast> Kealper, I'm re-making it in Single player at the moment until my internet gets better
#3895 [22:55] <nevercast> but I need some help
#3896 [22:55] <nevercast> regarding how redstone works
#3897 [22:55] <nevercast> It's 4 7 segment displays obviously, and on the corners of each 7 segment
#3898 [22:55] <nevercast> there is one diagonal sand block
#3899 [22:55] <Miniminers512> I'm not shure i just drag it all into the textur pack section my friend told me to
#3900 [22:55] <nevercast> between the two torches
#3901 [22:55] <nevercast> which redstone crawls over
#3902 [22:56] <Miniminers512> Sorry I'm kindof new
#3903 [22:56] <Kealper> nevercast: i really have no idea....i've never even made something close to that complex
#3904 [22:56] <nevercast> okay.
#3905 [22:57] <Miniminers512> And please do not give me a YouTube vid my iPhone dosent work with YouTube for some reason
#3906 [22:57] <xales> Kealper
#3907 [22:57] <Matt_> nevercast, your clock
#3908 [22:57] <xales> http://darksigns.net/xales/faqbot.txt
#3909 [22:57] <nevercast> Matt_ ??
#3910 [22:57] <Matt_> is it digital? so to speak?
#3911 [22:57] <nevercast> Yeah
#3912 [22:57] <nevercast> 7 segment displays
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#3914 [22:58] <Matt_> i saw a youtube video of what sounded like an 8 yr old that made one
#3915 [22:58] <Matt_> had instructions too.
#3916 [22:58] <nevercast> Okay I'll hit youtube
#3917 [22:58] <nevercast> Thanks Matt_
#3918 [22:58] <Matt_> yep!
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#3920 [23:05] <Matt_> nevercast, find any winners?
#3921 [23:06] <nevercast> Matt_, Only that a singal display is the size of what I've designated for my clock
#3922 [23:06] <nevercast> Minus the fact that the video has 3 stories of redstone circuit
#3923 [23:06] <Matt_> lol
#3924 [23:06] <Matt_> kinda like making the dispenser machine gun... lots and lots of redstone complication there.
#3925 [23:06] <Matt_> i'm not an electrician myself.
#3926 [23:07] <Kyrzon> Any server experts have a moment to troubleshoot a problem of sorts? Forgive me, I'm new to irc.
#3927 [23:07] <nevercast> machine gun?
#3928 [23:07] <nevercast> hmm
#3929 [23:08] <Matt_> nevercast, rows of dispensers, all with arrows. hooked up to complicated redstone repeater
#3930 [23:08] <nevercast> How would it be complicated? curious
#3931 [23:09] <xales> ??> Kyrzon ask
#3932 [23:09] <Matt_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewFrgDPCgGA
#3933 [23:09] <VoxelHead> Kyrzon: (ask) Don't ask to ask - just ask your question. If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3934 [23:09] <Matt_> i can listen kyrzon...
#3935 [23:09] <Matt_> i'm no expert
#3936 [23:09] <Matt_> just got on irc tonight
#3937 [23:10] <Matt_> nevercast, notice the link?
#3938 [23:10] <Kyrzon> Sorry, when attempting to start up my server it comes back with [SEVERE] Unexpected exception java.lang.NullPointerException
#3939 [23:10] <Matt_> hm, update java?
#3940 [23:10] <Matt_> or google.
#3941 [23:10] <nevercast> Ahahaha!
#3942 [23:10] <xales> Kyrzon: can you pastebin the full error?
#3943 [23:11] <Matt_> lol ikr ?!
#3944 [23:11] <Matt_> having the redstone repeat makes it shoot all the arrows
#3945 [23:11] <Coll> is there a editor that will let me change the spawn point
#3946 [23:11] <Coll> via text input
#3947 [23:11] <Matt_> Coll, mods will
#3948 [23:11] <Matt_> like bukkit and what hey0 was.
#3949 [23:11] <Coll> I dont need a mod
#3950 [23:12] <Coll> just need a small little app that will read the level.dat and let me change it
#3951 [23:12] <Matt_> well idk any other way to edit spawn points, maybe try mcedit
#3952 [23:12] <Matt_> mcedit should work then
#3953 [23:12] <Coll> mcedit is too slow for this computer
#3954 [23:12] <xales> Coll, I think MCedit's command line version can do it
#3955 [23:12] <nevercast> Bahah, Matt_ That's so cool
#3956 [23:12] <Coll> O_o
#3957 [23:12] <Matt_> :)
#3958 [23:12] <Coll> ugh
#3959 [23:12] <Coll> command line
#3960 [23:12] <Coll> D:
#3961 [23:12] <Matt_> Coll, there's an entire wiki with a list of apps thatll work
#3962 [23:13] <Matt_> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Programs_and_Editors Coll
#3963 [23:13] <Coll> none had the one I used at one time
#3964 [23:13] <Coll> it delt with changing some seed number
#3965 [23:13] <Matt_> the page i linked to shoudl have options
#3966 [23:14] <Kyrzon> error inc
#3967 [23:14] <Kyrzon> at gc.b(SourceFile:83)
#3968 [23:14] <Kyrzon> at fv.a(SourceFile:1659)
#3969 [23:14] <Kyrzon> at me.d(SourceFile:480)
#3970 [23:14] <Kyrzon> at ly.d(SourceFile:93)
#3971 [23:14] <Kyrzon> at ly.b(SourceFile:115)
#3972 [23:14] <Kyrzon> at cu.run(SourceFile:512)
#3973 [23:15] <xales> Kyrzon: pastebin >.>
#3974 [23:15] <xales> ??> Kyrzon pastebin
#3975 [23:15] <VoxelHead> Kyrzon: (pastebin) Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#3976 [23:15] <VoxelHead> Kyrzon: (pastebin) These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#3977 [23:16] <Kyrzon> -.-
#3978 [23:16] <Matt_> lol, Kyrzon and I learn the long, slow, hard way.
#3979 [23:16] <Matt_> us IRC noobs
#3980 [23:17] <Kyrzon> Someone have a server set up with a brick wall so I can jump off it on to a brick pathway?
#3981 [23:17] <Coll> xales
#3982 [23:17] <Coll> it doesnt help
#3983 [23:17] <Coll> that the bot is hidden for any irc noob
#3984 [23:17] <Coll> they wouldnt know the commands to use it
#3985 [23:17] <Coll> so they wouldnt find out about such things
#3986 [23:17] <xales> Coll, the bot is whitelisted anyway
#3987 [23:17] <xales> that's the point
#3988 [23:18] <xales> it's so we don't have to type it out every time
#3989 [23:18] <Coll> uh
#3990 [23:18] <Coll> what I am not following
#3991 [23:18] <Kyrzon> http://pastebin.com/2jdCa4MA
#3992 [23:19] <xales> Coll, the bot isn't meant for anyone to use
#3993 [23:19] <xales> only people on the whitelist can use it
#3994 [23:19] <xales> that's the point of it
#3995 [23:19] <lemon-rev> kyrzon have you tryed reinstalling java
#3996 [23:19] <xales> Kyrzon, are you running this on Windows?
#3997 [23:20] <Coll> so then they wouldnt know about pastebin and just paste
#3998 [23:20] <Coll> until you do what you did
#3999 [23:20] <Kyrzon> Lemon: I haven't. I renamed my /world folder in an effort to see if possibly my world was causing a problem (as other links online suggested it was world related) and the server generated a new world and loaded properly. Xales: yes.
#4000 [23:21] <xales> Coll, I said pastebin in my initial request
#4001 [23:21] <xales> Kyrzon: Try moving the entire server (exe, if you are using the jar, try the exe) to it's own, new, folder, on your desktop
#4002 [23:21] <xales> Coll, most people know about it
#4003 [23:21] <xales> and that's the purpose of AuBot's thing
#4004 [23:22] <Coll> most but not all
#4005 [23:22] <Kyrzon> Xales: moved to desktop sans folder, no change. moved into new folder with random chars for the name, no change.
#4006 [23:23] <xales> Kyrzon: are you using the exe to launch it?
#4007 [23:23] <Kyrzon> Yes.
#4008 [23:23] <Kealper> Coll: the whole point of the FAQ bot is just so the regulars in here can be lazy
#4009 [23:23] <Kealper> it gets annoying typing the same stuff over agian
#4010 [23:23] <xales> Kyrzon: Did you only copy the exe file, not the world, server.properties, etc?
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#4012 [23:24] <Kyrzon> Xales: the whole shabang.
#4013 [23:24] <Kealper> #!
#4014 [23:24] <xales> Kyrzon: only copy the exe
#4015 [23:24] <Kealper> no one? i thought my shebang would have made atleast the nerds laugh
#4016 [23:25] <lemon-rev> hahahah now that is funny lol
#4017 [23:25] <Kealper> maybe i'm just super tired and found that to be funny :/
#4018 [23:25] <lemon-rev> kealper blond moments happen there rare but there good :P
#4019 [23:25] <Kealper> lol
#4020 [23:25] <AndrewPH|AFK> #!/usr/bin/perl
#4021 [23:25] <AndrewPH|AFK> WHAT NOW
#4022 [23:25] <AndrewPH|AFK> THE WHOLE SHEBANG
#4023 [23:26] <Kealper> :O
#4024 [23:26] <lemon-rev> :!
#4025 [23:26] <Kyrzon> Xales: Copying just Minecraft_Server.exe to a separate folder and running it starts it up and it runs.
#4026 [23:26] <xales> Kealper, mildly amusing =/
#4027 [23:26] <Kealper> mine would be #! C:\xampp\Perl
#4028 [23:26] <Kealper> i think....maybe....
#4029 [23:26] <xales> Kyrzon: Copy over the world folder, and only that, now
#4030 [23:27] <Kealper> dang... #! C:\xampp\Perl\bin >:(
#4031 [23:27] <Matt_> #!
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#4033 [23:29] <xales> Kealper, do you know any perl?
#4034 [23:29] <AndrewPH|AFK> wouldn't it be bin/perl.exe Kealper?
#4035 [23:29] <xales> actually unrelated to this :P
#4036 [23:29] <Kealper> GAH
#4037 [23:29] <xales> I was going to ask you a question
#4038 [23:29] <Kealper> a bit xales
#4039 [23:29] <Kealper> yea andrew, you're right, it would be lol
#4040 [23:30] <xales> I'm attempting (just started) writing a script, the idea is to have a kick counter and append (Kicks: number) to kick reasons
#4041 [23:30] <xales> I have no idea how to do that though :(
#4042 [23:30] <Kealper> i've never messed with irssi scripts though
#4043 [23:31] <nevercast> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_22v4eHMRQ
#4044 [23:31] <Kealper> gimme a sec to switch back over to my account on this box
#4045 [23:31] <Kyrzon> Xales: Crash. :(
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#4048 [23:31] <xales> Kyrzon: It sounds like a corrupted map then
#4049 [23:32] <xales> Kyrzon: try opening the map with an editor like MCEdit, and re-saving it
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#4051 [23:34] <skippydippy> i cant get anything in minecraft when i continuously click on it?
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#4053 [23:34] <nevercast> skippydippy, Common mistake
#4054 [23:35] <nevercast> skippydippy, Hold the mouse button
#4055 [23:35] <nevercast> skippydippy, Stop clicking :)
#4056 [23:35] <skippydippy> oh my
#4057 [23:35] <nevercast> I did it too :P
#4058 [23:35] <skippydippy> ty sooooo much lmao i feel like an idiot
#4059 [23:35] <nevercast> Haha it's all good :)
#4060 [23:35] <skippydippy> lol omg
#4061 [23:35] <nevercast> :P
#4062 [23:35] <nevercast> Silly isn't it?
#4063 [23:36] <skippydippy> i know if i never have found this out i would have been screwed for days lol
#4064 [23:37] <skippydippy> i appreciate your help!!! now time to get playing lol
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#4066 [23:41] <Kyrzon> Xales: Yus! The map lives!
#4067 [23:41] <xales> Kyrzon: \o/
#4068 [23:42] <Kyrzon> Are there server side mods for minecraft? A friend of mine was saying something about some Zombe mod that allows him to fly quickbuild etc, but I can't find anything for MP minecraft
#4069 [23:43] <Elvang> There are
#4070 [23:44] <Kyrzon> Sweet... keywords to search for?
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#4072 [23:45] <Elvang> SMP I'd think
#4073 [23:45] <xales> try Bukkit, for some stuff (though it's rather new and only partially done) otherwise, just browse the forum
#4074 [23:47] <Kyrzon> thanks :)
#4075 [23:47] <Kyrzon> 'nother dumb question... what does SMP stand for?
#4076 [23:48] <xales> survival multiplayer
#4077 [23:48] <Kyrzon> thanks a bunch again!
#4078 [23:55] <nevercast> Kealper's server is super laggy today
#4079 [23:55] <Kealper> is it?
#4080 [23:55] <Kealper> what sort of lag?
#4081 [23:55] <Kealper> delay?
#4082 [23:55] <nevercast> Delay yeah
#4083 [23:55] <nevercast> It gets up to half a minute or more
#4084 [23:55] <Kealper> hmm....how bad of a delay?
#4085 [23:55] <Kealper> hmmm....
#4086 [23:55] * Kealper stops fucking around with CPU intensive stuff
#4086 [23:55] <nevercast> garbage collect?
#4087 [23:55] <nevercast> LOL!
#4088 [23:56] <Kealper> fine now? lol
#4089 [23:57] <nevercast> Slightly smoother yeah
#4090 [23:57] <nevercast> jumpy still though
#4091 [23:57] <nevercast> and messages are delayed a bit
#4092 [23:57] <Kealper> hmm...
#4093 [23:58] <xales> Kealper
#4094 [23:58] <xales> restart server
#4095 [23:58] <xales> it might be in swappyville
#4096 [23:58] <xales> or something like that
#4097 [23:58] <nevercast> Eh true
#4098 [23:59] <Kealper> it was just restarted a few hours ago
#4099 [23:59] <Kealper> and it doesn't get in to swap, there is 4 gigs of free ram on this machine :/