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#2 [00:02] <DopeGhoti> I see that some of the kids got into a fight with VoxelHead?
#3 [00:02] <DopeGhoti> Why can't y'all play nice?
#4 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> bwah?
#5 [00:04] * DopeGhoti gestures gavuely in GLaDOS' direction
#5 [00:04] <DopeGhoti> (also vaguely)
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#7 [00:05] <aetherian> eww
#8 [00:05] <aetherian> gavuely
#9 [00:06] <Muvaria> Hi, I'm trying to build a brick house and for some reason it won't let me place blocks above 9 high. Is this a bug or something?
#10 [00:06] <Kealper> it's got its own autokick thing that does not play nice like AuBot's
#11 [00:06] <DopeGhoti> ??+ opyourself|If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.;;Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#12 [00:06] <DopeGhoti> huh, I thought I turned that off
#13 [00:07] * DopeGhoti goes to flip some switches, tiwst some levers, and pull some knobs
#13 [00:07] <Muvaria> I am playing single player
#14 [00:08] <Moonwolf> are u building at the top of a mountain or something maybe you already reached the brake point for the height
#15 [00:09] <DopeGhoti> Moonwolf: indeed; press F3 where you're trying to build and tell us what the Y coordinate is.
#16 [00:09] <Muvaria> ahh, that's got to be it.
#17 [00:09] <DopeGhoti> Moonwolf: the absolute maximum is +64 IIRC
#18 [00:10] <Muvaria> Yeah, it says 129. something
#19 [00:10] <Moonwolf> jup i would say that would be it
#20 [00:10] <DopeGhoti> yep, you're on top of the world.
#21 [00:11] <Muvaria> I feel silly now. Thanks guys. I guess I'll have to go down then.
#22 [00:11] <DopeGhoti> (someone without Alzheimer's help he out here- it must br +/- 128 then?
#23 [00:11] <DopeGhoti> Muvaria: no problem, it's not exactly documented anywhere
#24 [00:12] <Moonwolf> +129 is the limmit you can build ful with blocks
#25 [00:12] <Moonwolf> coused some major FAIL when i wanted to build my giant tower -.-
#26 [00:13] <Muvaria> almost thought there'd be a big sign or something. Never thought I'd reach the top.
#27 [00:13] <DopeGhoti> the fact that the clouds were below you wan't a clue? (:
#28 [00:13] <aetherian> lol
#29 [00:13] <Muvaria> lol, yeah, no.
#30 [00:14] <Moonwolf> lol
#31 [00:14] <Muvaria> ok, later guys. back to building.
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#33 [00:17] <DopeGhoti> ??+ 1k|There is a bug you will encounter if you're building suspended structres that crosses the X or Z +/- 1000 coordinate- blocks will refuse to be placed as though the area is already occupied.;;To work around this, you unfortunately must build up from ground level. You can place blocks on top of other blocks at the 1000 'barrier'; just not (only) horizontally next to blocks. (This may need rewording to make more clear)
#34 [00:17] <aetherian> ow
#35 [00:17] <DopeGhoti> ow?
#36 [00:18] <aetherian> textblock
#37 [00:18] <DopeGhoti> It was only three lines.
#38 [00:18] <aetherian> not for me
#39 [00:18] <aetherian> 11 lines, though twelve, if you count the last word
#40 [00:18] <aetherian> it's on a smallened (?) window on my laptop
#41 [00:19] <aetherian> what can I say
#42 [00:20] <Moonwolf> enlarge your window now (Natural no chemicals used)
#43 [00:20] <aetherian> kk
#44 [00:20] <aetherian> now it's 4 lines
#45 [00:20] <aetherian> and even more annoying to read this
#46 [00:20] <DopeGhoti> see? Not so bad.
#47 [00:20] <aetherian> this is scary
#48 [00:20] * aetherian shrinks
#48 [00:21] <Moonwolf> >.< get a bigger screen
#49 [00:21] <aetherian> 15 inches is bloody big enough for a laptop >..
#50 [00:21] <DopeGhoti> mmm, blood.
#51 [00:21] <Moonwolf> pff laptops
#52 [00:21] <aetherian> pff desktops
#53 [00:21] <vanquish46> does anyone have experience with Permissions or SpawnControl?
#54 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Try #bukkit
#55 [00:22] <vanquish46> oh oops, thanks
#56 [00:22] <aetherian> big problem
#57 [00:23] <aetherian> I mean no problem
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#59 [00:28] <ItsCriminal> hi all, http://pastebin.com/v2ABha8F what is this for an error
#60 [00:28] <aetherian> that...
#61 [00:28] <aetherian> does not sound good
#62 [00:29] <aetherian> it also sounds as if it is to do with smp
#63 [00:29] <ItsCriminal> well i dont know what it is i just know my server was down that moment
#64 [00:29] <aetherian> ...
#65 [00:29] <aetherian> whelp
#66 [00:29] <aetherian> I think you should put it up
#67 [00:29] <aetherian> then try connecting
#68 [00:30] <ItsCriminal> i is up allready :D , server is working now again for good 6hours without fault, i just get that once in a while
#69 [00:30] <ItsCriminal> and wanted to ask what my server has for problems
#70 [00:31] <Moonwolf> maybe one with the language
#71 [00:31] <ItsCriminal> i will ask if i am back from the doctor again, :D thanks you anyway for looking at it :P
#72 [00:36] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: I have seem posts on other fora about clients with ZoneAlarm causing errors similar to that which cause the server to crash.
#73 [00:37] <ItsCriminal> ok i have to ask then my players, if they use that
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#77 [00:49] <ZeroX> hi, i bought minecraft yesterday and it says user not premium
#78 [00:49] <ZeroX> im waited about 13h
#79 [00:52] <DopeGhoti> ZeroX: what is the username you selected?
#80 [00:52] <ZeroX> 242zerox242
#81 [00:52] <DopeGhoti> !paid 242zerox242
#82 [00:52] <DopeGhoti> what method did you use- paypal or credit card?
#83 [00:53] <ZeroX> i use gredit card
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#85 [00:54] <DopeGhoti> IIRC, those are processed in a daily batch, or series of batches. If it's not gone trhough by tomorrow, shoot an email to payments@mojang.com with your payment information.
#86 [00:54] * DopeGhoti bits oracular welcome.
#86 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> Should be payment@mojang.com
#87 [00:55] <DopeGhoti> thanks, GreyVulpine, for the correction.
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#90 [01:00] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Arkose.
#91 [01:00] <Arkose> oh hi Mark
#92 [01:02] <DopeGhoti> ..who's Mark?
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#96 [01:18] <dlcling> can someone help me out really quick?
#97 [01:18] <dlcling> anyone here?
#98 [01:21] <ItsCriminal> why people dont just ask and wait -.-
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#101 [01:24] <dlcling> Can anyone help me, I don't know how to let my girlfriend connect to our localhost. I don't understand ports or anything like that.
#102 [01:25] <dlcling> so we can play a game together
#103 [01:25] <lemon-rev> wireless or lan ie cable
#104 [01:25] <dlcling> wireless
#105 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Same building/house?
#106 [01:25] <dlcling> yes
#107 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> What operating system is the server running on?
#108 [01:25] <dlcling> windows 7
#109 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar of the computer running the server, type in: cmd
#110 [01:26] <dlcling> i can connect using "localhost" which i thought would work for her but it didnt
#111 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> A black command prompt should pop up, type in: ipconfig
#112 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> "localhost" points back to the machine the command is run on
#113 [01:26] <dlcling> oh, k. on that screen
#114 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Once you have typed in "ipconfig", look for an ipv4 address heading
#115 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Got it?
#116 [01:27] <dlcling> yes
#117 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> That's the address she'll use to connect with
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#119 [01:27] <dlcling> any :## after that?
#120 [01:27] <DopeGhoti> nope
#121 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Unless it's been changed from default, no
#122 [01:30] <dlcling> omg, it works. your amazing!
#123 [01:31] <dlcling> will everything be saved that i do if my computer gets shut off?
#124 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how it's shut off
#125 [01:31] <dlcling> if i hit disconnect ingame and close the server program
#126 [01:31] <DopeGhoti> dlcling: be sure to execute a 'save-all', and then a 'stop' command on the server console, and you're all good
#127 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> If you pull the power plug, or there's a power outage, or any sort of sudden shut off, there is a chance of map corruption.
#128 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to follow DopeGhoti's instructions there
#129 [01:32] <dlcling> how do i do that saveall command?
#130 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> Right in the server's console
#131 [01:32] <dlcling> type "save-all
#132 [01:32] <dlcling> ?
#133 [01:33] <dlcling> before or after we have done stuff? and when do i use stop?
#134 [01:33] <lemon-rev> if your host dlcling then its after you do all your stuff on mc
#135 [01:34] <lemon-rev> use stop once you have saved all in console
#136 [01:34] <lemon-rev> of c ouse
#137 [01:34] <dlcling> ok, thank you all very much. we very happy to be able to play together :D
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#140 [01:46] <aetherian> hello
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#143 [01:56] <fogWraith> Ohoho, teamviewer works again ;D
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#145 [01:59] <DopeGhoti> give it a minute, fogWraith (:
#146 [02:02] <fogWraith> Oh I'm sure :|
#147 [02:02] <fogWraith> That's why I set up a VNC server as well before leaving home ;P
#148 [02:03] <aetherian> lag
#149 [02:03] <fogWraith> !ping
#150 [02:03] <GreyBot> fogWraith Your Ping time was 1.753 Seconds.
#151 [02:04] <fogWraith> This client works just like irssi :P
#152 [02:04] * fogWraith shakes fist
#152 [02:04] <aetherian> and firefox is flipping out on me
#153 [02:05] <fogWraith> Get Chromium?
#154 [02:05] <Arkose> play outside the browser?
#155 [02:05] * aetherian is referencing basic browsing
#155 [02:06] <fogWraith> Firefox feels slugish and evil ;/
#156 [02:06] <Arkose> any browser is going to feel sluggish with 20+ extensions :D
#157 [02:06] <aetherian> not for me normally, but when you're running on wifi, on the outskirts of the range, trying to download 14 files at once
#158 [02:07] <aetherian> it just kinds froze up on me
#159 [02:07] <fogWraith> I never install any extensions ;P
#160 [02:07] <aetherian> not to mention all my tabs
#161 [02:07] <DopeGhoti> elinks is the best browser.
#162 [02:07] <feenyx> lynx is good
#163 [02:08] <fogWraith> lynx <3
#164 [02:08] <fogWraith> Use it whenever Fedora feels like messing with my nvidia drivers ;P
#165 [02:08] <DopeGhoti> elinks is lynx, only better, and tabbed.
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#167 [02:09] <Arkose> and then you cry when you discover that many sites aren't built with text-only browsing in mind?
#168 [02:09] <fogWraith> nvidia.com is horrible, but it works
#169 [02:10] <DopeGhoti> Arkose: why cry when you could simply not use such asshattish sites?
#170 [02:10] <Arkose> orrr that
#171 [02:11] <Arkose> fogWraith: but now Nvidia seems to be transitioning towards a new Flash-centric site, http://www.geforce.com
#172 [02:11] <fogWraith> Oho? Need to check this out
#173 [02:11] <fogWraith> Ew *closes tab*
#174 [02:11] <Arkose> heh
#175 [02:12] <Arkose> ooh, I'm getting terrible performance from it this time.
#176 [02:12] <Arkose> clearly that's because I bought an ATI!
#177 [02:12] <fogWraith> ;)
#178 [02:12] <fogWraith> x64 experimental flash plugin only gets me so far
#179 [02:13] <fogWraith> Choppy sound sometimes and what not
#180 [02:15] <DopeGhoti> Apropos of nothing: part of the problem with Mojang's official bug tracker? Last company update is 28 days ago.
#181 [02:15] <fogWraith> :|
#182 [02:20] <relsqui> can anyone remind me offhand where the screencap directory lives/
#183 [02:20] <DopeGhoti> %AppData%\.minecraft on Windows; ~/.minecraft on Linus, Library/Application\ Support/minecraft on MacOS
#184 [02:21] <DopeGhoti> s/Linus/Linux/
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#186 [02:24] <relsqui> I'm on Windows, and don't know how to expand %AppData% offhand (which is kinda frustrating; I would've followed either of the others :P)
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#188 [02:24] <aetherian> the shadow is here
#189 [02:24] <Arkose> entering %appdata% in the address bar, start menu search box or run box will take you there
#190 [02:24] <Arkose> if that's what you're meaning
#191 [02:26] <DopeGhoti> (indeed, Windows will helpfully expand %AppData% for you)
#192 [02:26] <DopeGhoti> night, #MineCraftHelp.
#193 [02:26] <Arkose> night :)
#194 [02:27] <relsqui> oh, hey.
#195 [02:27] <relsqui> thanks
#196 [02:27] <aetherian> night, dopefish
#197 [02:28] <Arkose> the same goes for any other things wrapped in % as well. :)
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#199 [02:30] <relsqui> yeah; I did extrapolate that :)
#200 [02:30] <relsqui> just not used to being able to use variables in windows. when I need something like that I tend to be in linux
#201 [02:30] <relsqui> argh. I'm trying to teach picasa where that is
#202 [02:31] <relsqui> but it won't let me just paste the location, I have to navigate to it -_-
#203 [02:31] <relsqui> and .... it won't show me appdata
#204 [02:31] <relsqui> fucking picasa
#205 [02:31] * relsqui makes a link
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#206 [02:32] <relsqui> nope, that doesn't work
#207 [02:32] * relsqui strangles picasa
#207 [02:33] <aetherian> o.o
#208 [02:33] <aetherian> huh buh wha
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#210 [02:45] <Arkose> relsqui: if you go there in explorer you can find what folder it is (which varies based on the OS), but note that the core AppData (Vista/7) / Application Data (XP) folder is hidden by default so might not show up in Picasa's folder list thing if you have hidden folders hidden.
#211 [02:45] <Arkose> also Picasa sucks. :P
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#213 [02:47] <aetherian> dare I ask what picasa is, without opening up a browser?
#214 [02:48] <Arkose> it's a photo management program by Google.
#215 [02:48] <aetherian> scotty
#216 [02:48] <Arkose> it's rather rubbish.
#217 [02:48] <aetherian> we need more power
#218 [02:49] <Shadow386> POWA?!
#219 [02:49] <aetherian> it was a star trek reference
#220 [02:49] <Arkose> you must construct additional pylons
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#223 [02:56] <Tulki> I'm a minecraft!
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#225 [02:57] <Tulki> :<
#226 [02:58] <fogWraith> ?
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#228 [02:58] <aetherian> ...wut
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#230 [03:06] <aetherian> hurrrlo there, tulki
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#232 [03:12] <aetherian> I shall be back momentarily
#233 [03:15] <Tulki> Very well.
#234 [03:16] <Tulki> Cool tip: You can power your mine carts with friendly slimes.
#235 [03:16] <Tulki> o_o
#236 [03:16] <Tulki> All you need to do is sit in the cart and the friendly slime will totally obsess over you like always, humping the cart in whichever direction it's facing.
#237 [03:18] <aetherian> ...
#238 [03:18] <Tulki> ... well, it's true.
#239 [03:18] <Tulki> >_>
#240 [03:18] <aetherian> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwXTQHlACE8 made 6 months ago
#241 [03:19] <Tulki> Yes, that.
#242 [03:19] <Tulki> That slime is a hero
#243 [03:20] <Tulki> "Thank you slime!" *splat splat*
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#252 [03:41] <peoy> Hello!
#253 [03:41] <peoy> There is something wrong with the minecraftforum
#254 [03:41] <peoy> I dont get any new password when I want a ned password
#255 [03:41] <peoy> need
#256 [03:41] <peoy> Forgot my password
#257 [03:41] <peoy> type in the info, it says it have sent a new pw to my email, but I have not gotten anything
#258 [03:42] <peoy> tryed many times since yesterday, using gmail
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#262 [03:47] <Arkose> did you check your spam folder?
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#264 [03:51] <Tulki> Did you check alternate emails?
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#266 [03:55] <ItsCriminal> how can i report some player who actually jump from server to server and destroy all
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#268 [04:00] <fogWraith> Ban him and warn others of his minecraft username
#269 [04:00] <ItsCriminal> did :D
#270 [04:00] <fogWraith> Can you PM me his name, just in case?
#271 [04:01] <ItsCriminal> did :P
#272 [04:01] <fogWraith> Thank you :)
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#274 [04:01] * fogWraith adds to his personal watchlist
#274 [04:01] <nevercast> :D
#275 [04:02] <ItsCriminal> but i changed my permissions too, all new players cant do something
#276 [04:02] <ItsCriminal> they need a permission now
#277 [04:03] <ItsCriminal> thats the best way to keep these idiots out ^^
#278 [04:03] <aetherian> heh
#279 [04:04] <ItsCriminal> i made the default group to just spawn and now building
#280 [04:04] <ItsCriminal> now means NO
#281 [04:04] <ItsCriminal> ^^
#282 [04:05] <ItsCriminal> whats better VoxelSniper or WorldEdit ?
#283 [04:11] <fogWraith> haven't tried VS
#284 [04:11] <fogWraith> WE works fine for me
#285 [04:21] <aetherian> heya gladiatorial robot.
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#288 [04:36] <aetherian> la...lalala...
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#290 [04:37] <Jimbob> why cant I say anything on the primrary Minecraft irc?!
#291 [04:37] * aetherian finally does it
#291 [04:37] <Arkose> Jimbob: you need to register an account first.
#292 [04:37] * aetherian commits suicide because of #minecraft
#292 [04:38] <Jimbob> how?
#293 [04:38] <Jimbob> as in the minecraft website?
#294 [04:38] <aetherian> /msg nickserv register help
#295 [04:38] <aetherian> it'll tell you
#296 [04:38] <aetherian> although most people are too daft to follow those instructions, even
#297 [04:38] <Jimbob> see how I go then
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#299 [04:39] <aetherian> o.o
#300 [04:39] <Jimbob> dang it
#301 [04:40] <Jimbob> same channel
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#303 [04:40] * aetherian doesn't commit suicide, but somehow commits self mutilation
#303 [04:40] <aetherian> I don't think I even need to ctcp him to find out wat client he's running
#304 [04:41] <nevercast> aetherian, Considering he's a noob.. mIRC?
#305 [04:41] <aetherian> no, mibbit
#306 [04:41] <nevercast> Jimbob?
#307 [04:41] <aetherian> even worse
#308 [04:41] <aetherian> yes
#309 [04:41] <nevercast> He's using mIRC
#310 [04:41] <nevercast> lol.
#311 [04:41] <aetherian> oh?
#312 [04:41] <nevercast> ye'
#313 [04:41] <aetherian> that's... odd
#314 [04:41] <nevercast> v7.17
#315 [04:42] <nevercast> too stupid to know about webchat?
#316 [04:42] <nevercast> lol.
#317 [04:42] <aetherian> yes yes we all know how to ctcp version him, nevercast
#318 [04:42] <nevercast> Lol
#319 [04:42] <nevercast> You said you didn't need to
#320 [04:42] <aetherian> don't need to pick apart every bit of info from him and post it here
#321 [04:42] <nevercast> so I did it on your behalf
#322 [04:42] <nevercast> *sigh*
#323 [04:42] <nevercast> aetherian, Stop being a cock.
#324 [04:42] * fogWraith gargles some weechat
#324 [04:43] <aetherian> you had me ticked after you indulged yourself and quoted the version too >.>
#325 [04:43] <nevercast> Hey fogWraith
#326 [04:43] <aetherian> ah yay
#327 [04:43] <aetherian> my cd's done burning
#328 [04:43] <fogWraith> Hai nevercast
#329 [04:43] <nevercast> fogWraith, Who is you?
#330 [04:43] <fogWraith> I was phone?
#331 [04:44] <Tulki> >_>
#332 [04:44] <Tulki> I dug a really relaly big hole.
#333 [04:44] <Tulki> And I gathered some lava from that hole.
#334 [04:44] <Tulki> And then I dropped it in a forest.
#335 [04:44] <Tulki> D:
#336 [04:44] <Tulki> That place is now uninhabitable.
#337 [04:44] <aetherian> not true
#338 [04:44] <aetherian> just build with cobble not wood
#339 [04:45] <Tulki> Okay, but the animals keep burning themselves on the damn trees.
#340 [04:45] <nevercast> derp
#341 [04:45] <aetherian> log cabin in burning forest=fail.
#342 [04:45] <nevercast> fogWraith, *how is you?
#343 [04:45] <aetherian> I would know.
#344 [04:45] <Tulki> And of course they just love me so they gotta bump into me when they're on fire.
#345 [04:45] <nevercast> aetherian, Yeah I set my forest on fire =/
#346 [04:45] <nevercast> sucks
#347 [04:45] <fogWraith> All good here, nevercast, and you?
#348 [04:45] <aetherian> nevercast: I put a log cabin in an already burning forest
#349 [04:45] <nevercast> fogWraith, Not bad.. little tired.
#350 [04:45] <nevercast> aetherian, LOL
#351 [04:45] <Tulki> Anyway I'm goin' to bed. See all of you... whenever.
#352 [04:45] <aetherian> I thought... it was far enough away
#353 [04:45] <nevercast> Bai Tulki
#354 [04:45] <aetherian> well I gotta go to bed too
#355 [04:46] * fogWraith curses failing download servers
#355 [04:46] * aetherian pops in the cd he just burned
#355 [04:46] <aetherian> night
#356 [04:46] <aetherian> fogwraith: ther're always multiple sites to get the same things from D:
#357 [04:47] <fogWraith> I bet there are, but I need special stuff from eve-files.com :P
#358 [04:47] <aetherian> uh hurrr... whazzat?
#359 [04:47] <aetherian> ^is my brain right now
#360 [04:47] <fogWraith> Specifically, Aura voiceclips for my phone :P
#361 [04:48] <aetherian> ---o
#362 [04:48] <aetherian> night now o.
#363 [04:48] <aetherian> o
#364 [04:48] <aetherian> ow my eye fell off
#365 [04:49] <fogWraith> :P
#366 [04:49] <fogWraith> Night
#367 [04:51] <nevercast> lol.
#368 [04:51] <nevercast> fogWraith, Wanna try something I made :D
#369 [04:51] <fogWraith> Whats that? :P
#370 [04:51] <nevercast> fogWraith, What oper' you using?
#371 [04:51] <fogWraith> Wat?
#372 [04:51] <nevercast> OS
#373 [04:51] <fogWraith> Linuxness x64
#374 [04:55] <nevercast> woo
#375 [04:56] <fogWraith> Wooo?
#376 [04:56] <nevercast> kChat is now multi-platform
#377 [04:56] <nevercast> consider it mostly fully ported :D
#378 [04:56] <nevercast> fogWraith, Got Mono?
#379 [04:56] <fogWraith> Should, let me fire up a console and check version
#380 [04:57] <fogWraith> 2.6.7 :P
#381 [04:57] <nevercast> lol
#382 [04:57] <nevercast> I'll send you the file anyway
#383 [04:58] <nevercast> fogWraith, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1C9RXRND
#384 [05:00] <fogWraith> So, what's this? :P
#385 [05:00] <nevercast> Chat client :D
#386 [05:00] <nevercast> server is kealper.com
#387 [05:01] <nevercast> Is version of it doesn't run in anything but windows
#388 [05:01] <nevercast> So I spent the whole night porting it
#389 [05:01] <nevercast> Which is actually
#390 [05:01] <nevercast> An entire rewrite from Protocol specs
#391 [05:33] <fogWraith> Fun stuff ;)
#392 [05:34] <nevercast> Indeed
#393 [05:34] <nevercast> Lol
#394 [05:34] <nevercast> fogWraith, You made your textbox disappear with that name didn't you?
#395 [05:34] <nevercast> timestamps pl0x
#396 [05:34] <nevercast> woo
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#408 [06:20] <Dudeio> 'Sup! I need some help with stuff, anyone here?
#409 [06:20] <Dudeio> When I log in on the website I get someone elses' account, when I relog, it's like I get a random account
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#411 [06:21] <Dudeio> I think it might be because I'm on my school net and they disabled several protocols so that we can't play games like wow, etc etc
#412 [06:28] <Coll> so you be hacking other peoples accounts?
#413 [06:28] <Dudeio> No
#414 [06:29] <Dudeio> It's not my fault
#415 [06:29] <Dudeio> It just happens on it's own!
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#418 [06:42] <fogWraith> Dudeio: tell your school's IT admins that they suck
#419 [06:42] <Dudeio> lol
#420 [06:42] <fogWraith> Other poorly written pages on the internets will probably behave the same way
#421 [06:43] <fogWraith> And / or all of them if they set it up like I think they did
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#441 [08:57] <Misan> hi
#442 [08:58] <Misan> i saw that there is a way to get ü/ö/ä to display in minecraft via .properties files, i mean server messages (motd/restartmessage etc)
#443 [08:58] <Misan> i know the one for ü \u00FC
#444 [08:58] <Misan> is there a site i can find these delicious codes?
#445 [09:06] <DeeWoo> ttp://mindprod.com/jgloss/ascii.html
#446 [09:06] <DeeWoo> +a 'h' at the beginning
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#449 [09:25] <ItsCriminal> and agian someone who should be banned for ever on minecraft -.-
#450 [09:26] <ItsCriminal> i hate gamers who damn destroy all
#451 [09:28] <ItsCriminal> using cracked damn exe and cheat around with fly, and invinsible
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#453 [09:29] <ItsCriminal> TwinZn and n1ki_B are these cheaters
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#456 [09:33] <DeeWoo> is there any way to detect who is cheating? unless they f*ck up? logs? anything?
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#458 [09:34] <lern> 's Grey vulpine 'ere?
#459 [09:37] <ItsCriminal> DeeWoo i would like to know that
#460 [09:38] <DeeWoo> I *think* I got two cheaters on my server, saw them talking about something yesterday; "woot, you can't see me? what about now? - oh ye, there you are"
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#463 [09:49] <Rait> Erm.. is there a way of destroying bedrock? in SMP.
#464 [09:50] <ItsCriminal> yes same with me DeeWoo
#465 [09:51] <lern> Not without a hack or admin rait.
#466 [09:51] <Rait> I am an admin, so how would i go about to get rid of it?
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#468 [09:54] <ZeroX> hi, i do my own minecraft server and when chop sand, tree or everything the when i have do it it comes back, im bad english, try to understand
#469 [09:55] <Rait> ZeroX: HAve you given yourself Op? (admin)
#470 [09:55] <lern> rait, no idea. I only know it's possible. XD
#471 [09:55] <Rait> Lul, wtf lern.
#472 [09:55] <Rait> Wtg*
#473 [09:55] <lern> wtg?
#474 [09:55] <Rait> WAy to go.
#475 [09:55] <lern> oh.
#476 [09:55] <lern> I'm not here to help out.
#477 [09:55] <lern> I'm here to get help
#478 [09:55] <lern> But helpies are afk.
#479 [09:55] <lern> =/
#480 [09:56] <Rait> xD. i can tell. but meh, i deceided to build a bedrock house... but yeah i forgot to leave space for teh door.
#481 [09:56] <Rait> sooooo im stuck! :D
#482 [09:56] <lern> AHAHAHAHHA OH MY GOD THE LEVELS OF FAIL XDDDDD
#483 [09:56] <lern> sorry but that's
#484 [09:56] <lern> HILLARIOUS
#485 [10:03] <ZeroX> rait: how i can do it`?
#486 [10:04] <DeeWoo> hahaha
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#490 [10:19] <Rait> ZeroX:In your Minecraft server folder, there should be a file called Ops, in that file put in your character name.
#491 [10:19] <Rait> Then it'll op you.
#492 [10:20] <ZeroX> im now op
#493 [10:20] <ZeroX> what i hav to do next
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#495 [10:21] <ZeroX> so can u tell me what i have to do?
#496 [10:21] <Rait> That should be all, you're an admin in your own server, which now allows you to modify blocks in the spawn zone.
#497 [10:24] <haavaros> Is there some kind of bug with iron doors and redstone torches? I have a circuit with one torch connected to a button on one side and a pressure plate on the other. When one of those is activated, I see that the torch is turned off. But when I put a door over the torch, it seems buggy. The door doesn't change position when I step onto the pressure plate, but opens for a split second when I step off the plate. Anyone know what's wrong?
#498 [10:27] <lern> I don't get the circuit.
#499 [10:27] <lern> Can you describe your circuit?
#500 [10:32] <ZeroX> hhm, why i have zombies if i have peacful in my own server?
#501 [10:33] <Rait> ZeroX: You gotta change the settings of your server in the server protperties file in the minecraft sever folder.
#502 [10:33] <Rait> set Monsters to :false
#503 [10:33] <Rait> =false*
#504 [10:33] <haavaros> lern: There's a torch under a door. There is one button and one pressure plate connected. When one of these are pushed/stepped on, the torch is unlit. This works without the door. But when I put a door over the torch, this happens: The door opens as it should with the button. But the door doesn't open when I step on the plate, but it opens for a split second (opening and shutting again really quickly) when I step off the plate
#505 [10:33] <ZeroX> thanks
#506 [10:34] <Rait> Haavaros: What plate are you using? wooden or stone?
#507 [10:34] <haavaros> Rait: Stone
#508 [10:34] <Rait> Are you in SP?
#509 [10:36] <haavaros> Yep
#510 [10:36] <ZeroX> can i get too the health dificult
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#512 [10:36] <Rait> ZeroX: What do you mean? Where your health regains?
#513 [10:37] <nissen22> i need help
#514 [10:37] <ZeroX> i mean healts regrened
#515 [10:37] <nissen22> why des minecraft crash when i try to enable sound??
#516 [10:37] <nissen22> *does
#517 [10:37] <Rait> Did you set the monster to false?
#518 [10:37] <ZeroX> yep
#519 [10:38] <Rait> Did you restart your server by shutting it down, and bringing it back up?
#520 [10:38] <ZeroX> sorry i dont even test it : DD now it works thanks for help
#521 [10:39] <Rait> ZeroX: alright.
#522 [10:40] <Rait> Haavaros, i can't quite visualize how your circuits are layed out.
#523 [10:40] <Rait> And since i'm not much of a restone genuis, not much i can do to help other than try.
#524 [10:40] <nissen22> anyone?
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#527 [10:41] <haavaros> Rait: I don't blame you. Seems buggy to me, but I'll just redesign the circuit
#528 [10:41] <nissen22> whatever-_-
#529 [10:41] <Rait> Nissen22: I have ... lul or leave.
#530 [10:41] <Rait> Haavaros: To me i think it would be the torch right under the door.
#531 [10:44] <DopeGhoti> Why is redstone even involved? or are the plate and button removed from the door?
#532 [10:44] <DopeGhoti> Also, same question about the torch, unless you want an always-open toor
#533 [10:44] <DopeGhoti> er, door
#534 [10:46] <haavaros> DopeGhoti: Yes, the door is surrounded by glass, so I have to put the button one block down and left of the door. And I want the wiring to be invisible, that't why Im using the torch
#535 [10:47] <DopeGhoti> haavaros: So the button is below the door?
#536 [10:47] <haavaros> Yes
#537 [10:47] <haavaros> One block down, then one block to the left
#538 [10:47] <DopeGhoti> even so, I don't see how a torch is needed..
#539 [10:48] <DopeGhoti> You have the block on which the door stands, yes? Below that, you want air, and below that, a block upon which an RS wire is placed. Connect both inputs to that wire.
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#541 [10:49] <Nilo> hi
#542 [10:49] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Nilo
#543 [10:49] <Nilo> i got a problem with my minecraft client
#544 [10:49] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#545 [10:49] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#546 [10:49] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#547 [10:49] <Nilo> it doesnt starts
#548 [10:50] <haavaros> DopeGhoti: That's not working for me. A wire doesn't open the door unless it is on the same level as the door. A wire one level below doesn't affect the door
#549 [10:50] <Nilo> i removed the bin folder
#550 [10:50] <Nilo> and i redownloaded the client several times
#551 [10:50] <haavaros> DopeGhoti: I'll try rearranging the wire, 2 sec
#552 [10:50] <DopeGhoti> ?? specific (when it "doesn't start", what _does_ happen?
#553 [10:51] <DopeGhoti> ?? specific
#554 [10:51] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specifig and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are bery helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#555 [10:51] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#556 [10:51] <Nilo> nothing
#557 [10:51] <Nilo> it loads for under a sec
#558 [10:51] <DopeGhoti> Nilo: what OS?
#559 [10:51] <Nilo> win 7
#560 [10:51] <DopeGhoti> What version of Java have you got installed?
#561 [10:51] <Nilo> newest
#562 [10:51] <Nilo> checked it
#563 [10:52] <Nilo> sometimes, but just sometimes it works
#564 [10:52] <DopeGhoti> Humor me: what version exactly?
#565 [10:52] <Nilo> ..wait i look it up
#566 [10:53] <DopeGhoti> haavaros: the way you have the circuit designed now, is the RS torch 'powering' the wires leading into it? If so, that circuit will not work.
#567 [10:53] <Nilo> version 6
#568 [10:54] <Nilo> build 1.6.0_23-b05
#569 [10:54] <Nilo> aktualisierung 23
#570 [10:54] <Nilo> (im german)
#571 [10:54] <DopeGhoti> All right, thank you for confirming that.
#572 [10:55] <DopeGhoti> When it "loads for under a sec", do you see anything in the window at all before it closes?
#573 [10:55] <haavaros> DopeGhoti: No, the torch under the door is switched on and off by the wires, not vice versa
#574 [10:55] <Nilo> there is no window opening
#575 [10:55] <Nilo> nothing hapens at all
#576 [10:55] <DopeGhoti> What did you mean by 08:53 < Nilo> it loads for under a sec
#577 [10:56] <Nilo> the loading icon next to the cursor
#578 [10:56] <DopeGhoti> Ah.
#579 [10:56] <Nilo> sorry for not explaining that
#580 [10:56] <DopeGhoti> You said you've removed the .minecraft/bin directory.. Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling Java?
#581 [10:57] <Nilo> nope not yet
#582 [10:57] <Nilo> when im doing this could i try out the java64 bit version too?
#583 [10:58] <DopeGhoti> Yes, if you're running a 64-bit Windows OS, you should install the 64-bit Java.
#584 [10:58] <Nilo> ok im on it
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#586 [11:03] <Draglems1> Hello, Whenever I go to start Minecraft(Browser or downloaded.) It always starts near the end and is "Done loading."
#587 [11:03] <Draglems1> Is there any way to resolve this?
#588 [11:03] <DopeGhoti> Draglems1: running Windows?
#589 [11:03] <Draglems1> Yes.
#590 [11:03] <DopeGhoti> ?? reinst/win
#591 [11:03] <VoxelHead> reinst/win: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#592 [11:03] <VoxelHead> reinst/win: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#593 [11:03] <Draglems1> Thank you.
#594 [11:03] <Draglems1> I shall try.
#595 [11:03] <DopeGhoti> Quite welcome
#596 [11:03] <DopeGhoti> And now, I go to work; see y'all from there!
#597 [11:03] <Draglems1> Okay, for some reason
#598 [11:04] <Draglems1> all the bin files etc saved to desktop.
#599 [11:04] <Draglems1> Deleting every within BIN failed.
#600 [11:04] <DopeGhoti> that's.. abnormal. you might also want to re-download the client launcher as well
#601 [11:04] <DopeGhoti> !client
#602 [11:04] <Draglems1> I have.
#603 [11:04] <Draglems1> I've done all of it.
#604 [11:05] <DopeGhoti> If it's putting bin files on the desktop, something has gone Horribly Wrong.
#605 [11:05] <Draglems1> No, that was a error caused by me.
#606 [11:05] <Draglems1> The bin files are in the minecraft folder.
#607 [11:05] <DopeGhoti> Unfortunately, I don't have time to analyze it because, as mentioned, I have to go to work. See you from there!
#608 [11:05] <Draglems1> Hold on.
#609 [11:05] <Draglems1> Hm.
#610 [11:05] <Draglems1> I'll erase all of it.
#611 [11:06] <Draglems1> No, still error.
#612 [11:07] <Draglems1> Its some-how running with all the files deleted?
#613 [11:09] <Draglems1> going to reset
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#615 [11:12] <Draglems1> Alright..
#616 [11:12] <Draglems1> No, I still get the error.
#617 [11:13] <Draglems1> Ah, i think i know the problem
#618 [11:14] <Draglems1> Hooray, I got it.
#619 [11:15] <Draglems1> Somehow, the .bin wouldn't start, it was hiding.
#620 [11:16] <haavaros> How does buttons interact with iron doors? I have placed an iron door. When I put a button next to it, the door is always open. Bug?
#621 [11:16] <Draglems1> did you put redstone?
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#623 [11:16] <Draglems1> Dunno about Iron doors.
#624 [11:16] <Draglems1> I think you got to put them on the same floor.
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#627 [11:22] <Draglems1> Okay, back again, another problem.
#628 [11:22] <Draglems1> I can't seem to connect to Multiplayer.
#629 [11:23] <Draglems1> I don't know if its just the server down or its me.
#630 [11:23] <Draglems1> "Connection time out".
#631 [11:23] <Draglems1> Could someone give me a Server I.P(a test one?)
#632 [11:23] <Kealper> mc.kealper.om
#633 [11:23] <Kealper> mc.kealper.com
#634 [11:24] <Draglems1> Thank you
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#638 [11:34] <Netu> I was asking in #minecraft about my server memory issues. Was anyone, by chance, reading that and willing to continue the discussion?
#639 [11:34] <thermi> *g*
#640 [11:34] <Netu> Ah, great, thanks a lot thermi.
#641 [11:34] <Kealper> ask, if we know, we'll tell you
#642 [11:35] <thermi> he has problems identifying the source of the extreme memory usage
#643 [11:35] <thermi> [17:32:11] <Netu> Well, clearly I don't understand something and you do, haha. My "server" is using all of its memory and I cannot identify what it is. I've checked Apache, it's fine. I've yet to check MySQL. I am not sure how to identify what would be using my server's memory up. Do you have advice to seek out the problem? (Other than me not being a complete and total idiot, of course.)
#644 [11:35] <Netu> Oooh, much better worded than what I was about to say.
#645 [11:35] <thermi> :D
#646 [11:35] <Kealper> define extreme memory usage? like....a gig of ram?
#647 [11:36] <thermi> [17:29:10] <Netu> ps aux shows nothing's using beyond 30% of my memory. vmstat shows I'm fine. free -m shows I have 4mb left. WTF? Anyone have *any* idea?
#648 [11:36] <Netu> Basically, I can *identify* where about 33% of the memory is going.
#649 [11:36] <Netu> The rest is magical.
#650 [11:36] <Kealper> linux?
#651 [11:36] <Netu> Of course.
#652 [11:36] <Netu> Debian Lenny.
#653 [11:36] <Kealper> linux memory usage lies like a boss
#654 [11:36] <Netu> 32 bit (Don't insult me; it's all I could get at the time.)
#655 [11:36] <Netu> Oh, Kealper. Any way to actually identify?
#656 [11:36] <Netu> (This is the first time I've had this issue.)
#657 [11:36] <Netu> (Hence my asking.)
#658 [11:36] <Kealper> if you can only identify about 33% of it's memory usage, it's probably only using able 33%
#659 [11:37] <Netu> That cannot be true. I am suffering bad lag.
#660 [11:37] <Kealper> about=about
#661 [11:37] <Netu> Even TeamSpeak3 is lagging.
#662 [11:37] <Kealper> hmm.
#663 [11:37] <Kealper> 1 sec
#664 [11:37] <Netu> (Just smart google searches would help me. Typing "Why is my Debian server lagging" in Google just...doesn't...work. :\)
#665 [11:38] <Kealper> type free into a terminal window
#666 [11:38] <Netu> What do you want to know?
#667 [11:38] <Kealper> this line: -/+ buffers/cache:
#668 [11:38] <Netu> http://pastebin.com/NkuvUiCZ
#669 [11:39] <Netu> Take the whole thing.
#670 [11:39] <Netu> Be healed.
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#672 [11:39] <Kealper> is your minecraft server running right now?
#673 [11:39] <Netu> Always.
#674 [11:40] <Kealper> you've got lots of ram ram
#675 [11:40] <Kealper> ram left*
#676 [11:40] <Kealper> shit
#677 [11:40] <Kealper> not thinking
#678 [11:40] <Netu> You're fine.
#679 [11:40] <Netu> Okay, well that's good news.
#680 [11:40] <Netu> So wtf might be causing this awful lag?
#681 [11:40] <Netu> I just can't identify it.
#682 [11:40] <Netu> I've spent nearly aw eek working on this.
#683 [11:40] <Netu> (Hence my asking in the *minecraft* channels for help.)
#684 [11:40] <Kealper> is it in your house? someone else's house? a datacenter?
#685 [11:40] <Netu> Datacenter. It's a VPS.
#686 [11:41] <Netu> (A VPS I am two seconds away from dropping *like it's hot*.)
#687 [11:41] <Kealper> that's probably your lag issue
#688 [11:41] <Netu> Well, that's not very helpful. They advertise as being able to support Minecraft servers. I've contacted them saying "Hey I'm lagging. Help please." And then they are all, "Uhh, we restarted it for you."
#689 [11:42] <Netu> (Hence the not far from dropping it.)
#690 [11:42] <Netu> So, any advice, other than changing VPSes?
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#692 [11:42] <Kealper> well, i have a personal hatred towards VPSes, so....
#693 [11:43] <Nilo> hey, me again
#694 [11:43] <Netu> I have $20 in my bank account and $100 in my donations box.
#695 [11:43] <Netu> I can't really splurge on dedicated. :(
#696 [11:43] <Nilo> my minecraft client stilll does not start
#697 [11:43] <nidefawl> wow 100$ donations, thats a lot for a creepy vps server o0
#698 [11:44] <Kealper> ^
#699 [11:44] <Nilo> i reinstalled my java, removed my bin folder and redownloaded the client
#700 [11:44] <Nilo> but still no changes
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#702 [11:44] <Netu> nidefawl: I have ran my server for over 7 months.
#703 [11:44] <Kealper> i'd say just screw em and switch VPS hosts, check out http://allgamer.net
#704 [11:45] <Netu> I use them, actually, on another game I host.
#705 [11:45] <Netu> I am switching from them. (Heh.)
#706 [11:45] <Kealper> O.o
#707 [11:45] <Kealper> AG_*: y u no have satisfied customer?
#708 [11:46] <Netu> Well this is awkward.
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#710 [11:46] <Netu> But, obviously, I'd rather not go into it. It's purely money issues.
#711 [11:46] <Netu> As, again, I've stated.
#712 [11:46] <Netu> I lost my job, and have school debt to pay.
#713 [11:46] <Kealper> :/
#714 [11:46] <Netu> (So there, now we're past that.)
#715 [11:46] <Empis_Home> hello, im trying to setup a beta-server, and i can't see online players via TAB and so on, what im doing wrong?
#716 [11:47] <Netu> Empis_Home: Type listplayers into the console.
#717 [11:47] <Empis_Home> type...? on other servers i can press TAB
#718 [11:47] <Netu> Oh, I am sorry, I clearly am unaware of what you are doing. I assumed you were using a console to communicate with a beta server you were hosting.
#719 [11:47] <Kealper> right then, i've gotta run....afk
#720 [11:48] <Netu> So long Kealper. Thanks for the help.
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#722 [11:48] <Empis_Home> Netu: yeah but from a player client
#723 [11:48] <Netu> Then type into chat /playerlist
#724 [11:48] <Netu> That ought to work. If not, then I don't know.
#725 [11:49] <Empis_Home> [17:47:13] <Empis_Home> type...? on other servers i can press TAB
#726 [11:49] <Netu> I already read that. I am not repeating myself (again).
#727 [11:49] <Empis_Home> ehm, well
#728 [11:50] <Korwa> Hey! Anyone know how to solve "Connection lost - Timed Out"? Played yesterday and everything was fine but today I can't join any server...
#729 [11:50] <Empis_Home> firewall?
#730 [11:51] <Korwa> Tried both on and off...
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#732 [11:53] <lern> Korwa
#733 [11:53] <NinjaKirby> You might think I'm having a giraffe, but the "Repair Connection" option for your LAN. It genuinely does solve a problem or two for me sometimes.
#734 [11:53] <lern> I've got good and bad news for you.
#735 [11:53] <lern> The good news!
#736 [11:53] <lern> I had the same problem yesterday
#737 [11:53] <lern> The bad news!
#738 [11:54] <lern> We (As in, me and several others here) couldn't solve it.
#739 [11:54] <Empis_Home> ... it's still there? :)
#740 [11:54] <lern> The Good news!
#741 [11:54] <Empis_Home> hehe
#742 [11:54] <lern> A day later
#743 [11:54] <lern> It gets better again
#744 [11:54] <lern> Just wait for tomorrow, reset comp, let it heal naturally.
#745 [11:54] <NinjaKirby> Roll for a Router Hard Restart
#746 [11:54] <lern> till then welcome to enjoy sp. :i
#747 [11:55] <DopeGhoti> Netu: stil looking to sort out memory usage issues?
#748 [11:55] <Korwa> Hahah, okey sound that "time heals all wounds" ;)
#749 [11:56] <DopeGhoti> Korwa: not running ZoneAlarm by any chance, are you?
#750 [11:56] <Korwa> Nope!
#751 [11:57] <NinjaKirby> lol dope, the one that you disable and it doesn't disable whatsoever
#752 [11:57] <NinjaKirby> Can't believe that software it still about
#753 [11:57] <DopeGhoti> Turns out that ZA is so bad that clients running it can cause _server_ crashes.
#754 [11:57] <NinjaKirby> You best be jokin' O_o
#755 [11:57] <DopeGhoti> ?? zonealarm
#756 [11:57] <VoxelHead> zonealarm: Don't use ZoneAlarm. It'd bloated, resource-heavy software that does more harm than good, and in fact is known to cause problems with Minecraft speficically, such as connecting to servers and falling endlessly through the void, or even crashing servers entirely.
#757 [11:57] <VoxelHead> zonealarm: Official report thread about ZA-induce server crashes is here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_crashes_in_multiplayer_socketexception_if_firewa
#758 [11:58] <DopeGhoti> There are tons of supporting anectodal reports on reddit and various fora as well
#759 [11:58] <NinjaKirby> What a pile of garbage (the software)
#760 [11:58] <DopeGhoti> I remember back when it first came out, and only _kinda_ sucked.
#761 [11:58] <lern> honestly
#762 [11:59] <lern> mc needs a sleep function
#763 [11:59] <lern> and maybe a bed item
#764 [11:59] <lern> for me to go sleep on
#765 [11:59] <lern> Now you're asking one or both of two
#766 [11:59] <DopeGhoti> It needs a Civ IV-like timer function. "It's 6 AM. No, not in-game, in reality. Stop playing. Now."
#767 [11:59] <lern> Why would you need that?! Just log off?
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#769 [11:59] <lern> OR.
#770 [12:00] <lern> you may be asking
#771 [12:00] <lern> Why are you saying this HERE, and not in the normal mc channel
#772 [12:00] <DopeGhoti> You know what I'm asking? "Why is lern using the Enter key as a comma?"
#773 [12:00] <lern> 1! Because occassionally I go for long strolls/adventure walks without any tools but my watch and compass, and just wander around.
#774 [12:00] <lern> (Because. Honestly he has no idea.)
#775 [12:01] <Nilo> my minecraft client stilll does not start. i reinstalled my java, removed my bin folder and redownloaded the client but still no changes
#776 [12:01] <lern> And when I do wander around and it gets night, I don't feel like building a HOME.
#777 [12:01] <Nilo> someonehere to help me?
#778 [12:01] <lern> I just build a small hole, and then time goes to waste!
#779 [12:01] <DopeGhoti> Nilo: try running it from the command-line, to see if it leaves any errors there?
#780 [12:02] <Nilo> how do i do that?
#781 [12:02] <Nilo> give the path in it?
#782 [12:02] <lern> Alternatively, had you been asking question 2; Honestly just cuz this channel's open and the other ain't. XD
#783 [12:02] <DopeGhoti> start -> run -> CMD; then go to the directory that minecraft.exe lives in, then run minecraft.exe
#784 [12:02] <DopeGhoti> lern: "open"?
#785 [12:03] <DopeGhoti> lern: no channels are "closed"- IRC doesn't have business hours.
#786 [12:04] <NinjaKirby> Open All Hours, with da Ronnie Barker
#787 [12:04] <Nilo> lol
#788 [12:04] <Nilo> now it starts
#789 [12:04] <Nilo> thanks for first
#790 [12:04] <Nilo> but does this mean i have to start it this way everytime?
#791 [12:05] <thermi> *cough* Shortcut *cough*
#792 [12:05] <Elvang> Anyone know which corner of the spawn block the compass points to?
#793 [12:05] <thermi> north eastern i think
#794 [12:05] <DopeGhoti> Nilo: so it started when you ran it from the command-line, but not when you just double-clicked on it?
#795 [12:05] <Nilo> i got the exe on my desktop
#796 [12:05] <Nilo> yep
#797 [12:06] <DopeGhoti> Did you get any output on the command line?
#798 [12:06] <Nilo> nope
#799 [12:06] <Nilo> nothing
#800 [12:06] <DopeGhoti> That's bizarre
#801 [12:06] <Nilo> yep ;D
#802 [12:06] <DopeGhoti> could you paste the full path to the directory that it's in?
#803 [12:06] <Nilo> its just on my desktop
#804 [12:07] <DopeGhoti> Right, but all the same
#805 [12:07] <Nilo> C:\Users\Nils\Desktop
#806 [12:07] <DopeGhoti> Huh.
#807 [12:07] <DopeGhoti> no umlauts, spaces, or double-Ss.
#808 [12:07] <DopeGhoti> that's just.. weird
#809 [12:07] <DopeGhoti> I'm sorry, but I have absolutely no idea why it's only running from the command-line :/
#810 [12:08] <Nilo> me to
#811 [12:08] <Nilo> guess i have to live with it
#812 [12:08] <DopeGhoti> You could try making a batch file and see if double-clicking that works
#813 [12:09] <Nilo> ok... textfile saved as .bat , right?
#814 [12:09] <DopeGhoti> or .cmd, yes
#815 [12:10] <Empis_Home> how do i use the play.jsp to my server?
#816 [12:10] <Nilo> and what do i write in it?
#817 [12:10] <Nilo> just the path?
#818 [12:10] <DopeGhoti> http://pastebin.com/Y59VnmXX
#819 [12:12] <Nilo> ok, thanks i copied everthing from the second field
#820 [12:12] <Nilo> saved as .bat and wait ill try it
#821 [12:12] <DopeGhoti> Good luck!
#822 [12:13] <xales> Empis_Home: Are you running a Classic server?
#823 [12:13] <Nilo> thanks it works
#824 [12:13] <Nilo> nice workaround xD
#825 [12:14] <Nilo> maybe it works after the update i didn´t play for a longer time
#826 [12:14] <Kaya> minecraft is so laggy
#827 [12:14] <Kaya> annoying.
#828 [12:15] <DopeGhoti> ?? retro
#829 [12:15] <VoxelHead> retro: Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#830 [12:15] <VoxelHead> retro: Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GiB of RAM on startup.
#831 [12:15] <DopeGhoti> Nilo: glad it's working!
#832 [12:16] <xales> Dope
#833 [12:16] <xales> s/GiB/GB
#834 [12:16] <xales> :P
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#836 [12:16] <DopeGhoti> xales: GiB != GB
#837 [12:16] <xales> I know
#838 [12:16] <xales> and it allocates 1GB
#839 [12:16] <z1d> hi all :)
#840 [12:16] <DopeGhoti> really, it doesn't grab 1024MB?
#841 [12:17] <DopeGhoti> ??~ retro|Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the blip2 game on a Commodore 64.
#842 [12:17] <thermi> it does 989 Mb :)
#843 [12:17] <DopeGhoti> d'oh..
#844 [12:18] <DopeGhoti> ??~ retro|Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.;;Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#845 [12:18] <xales> fucking...
#846 [12:18] <xales> I come back for this
#847 [12:18] <xales> 12:16:54 #idle: <+IdleRPG> ked has dealt Xales a Critical Strike! 0 days, 07:15:16 is added to Xales's clock.
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#849 [12:21] <DopeGhoti> I threw away my throwaway password, so I lost idleRPG.
#850 [12:21] <xales> lol
#851 [12:21] <lern> Idlerpg?
#852 [12:21] <lern> :o
#853 [12:22] <Netu> Idle to level, etc. It's classy.
#854 [12:22] <lern> Huh?
#855 [12:22] <lern> So basically
#856 [12:22] <lern> an rpg
#857 [12:22] <DopeGhoti> it's like ProgressQuest, only multiplayer.
#858 [12:22] <lern> which you play
#859 [12:22] <lern> by not doing anything?
#860 [12:22] <Elvang> Correct
#861 [12:22] <lern> sign me up.
#862 [12:22] <lern> XD
#863 [12:22] <DopeGhoti> The only way to win is not to play.
#864 [12:22] <lern> no seriously how do I play? :P
#865 [12:22] <DopeGhoti> By not playing.
#866 [12:23] <lern> ...
#867 [12:23] <xales> DopeGhoti: if I gave you FTP details for mchelp.darksigns.net could you have a script to put a (human readable) version of the VoxelHead database every so often, so we have a list?
#868 [12:23] <lern> How do I START playing
#869 [12:23] <xales> lern: join #idle
#870 [12:23] <xales> also, quitting, changing name, etc
#871 [12:23] <Elvang> Join #idle lern, follow instructions from IdleRPG
#872 [12:23] <xales> all penalize you
#873 [12:23] <DopeGhoti> xales: sure
#874 [12:23] <lern> lol
#875 [12:23] <DopeGhoti> xales: better would be SCP :)
#876 [12:24] <DopeGhoti> (easier to script)
#877 [12:24] <xales> DopeGhoti: curl
#878 [12:24] <DopeGhoti> dammit, I've gotten this far without learning how to use curl instead of wget, and now this is what will break me?! Khaaaaaan!
#879 [12:24] <xales> :P
#880 [12:25] <DopeGhoti> (yeah, sure, I'll figure curl out)
#881 [12:33] <NinjaKirby> Seems I guess less client lag with lighting recalculations when running Client/Server mode, even though it's the same machine.
#882 [12:33] <NinjaKirby> *I get, not guess, although technically it's true enough as well
#883 [12:34] <NinjaKirby> But then I can't battle Mobs with a sword without getting hit in Server mode XD
#884 [12:34] <NinjaKirby> Btw, does anyone know if the Default Map Save directory can be changed?
#885 [12:34] <xales> the save directory is the world= parameter
#886 [12:34] <NinjaKirby> Ah, make it absolute
#887 [12:34] <xales> world=asdf will save it in the asdf folder
#888 [12:34] <xales> symlink
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#890 [12:35] <NinjaKirby> Ah, family member is home, afk, and thanks!
#891 [12:35] <Shadow386> xales i wonder
#892 [12:35] <Shadow386> if you put world=worlds/world1 would it show up as world1 in the worlds folder?
#893 [12:35] <xales> I don't think so
#894 [12:35] <xales> but I have no idea
#895 [12:35] <Shadow386> I wanna test it :3
#896 [12:35] <xales> then test it? :P
#897 [12:35] <Shadow386> NOU
#898 [12:35] <Shadow386> one sec
#899 [12:37] <Draglems1> ./Sigh
#900 [12:37] <Draglems1> Sup guys.
#901 [12:37] <Shadow386> it works
#902 [12:37] <xales> Shadow386: orly
#903 [12:37] <Shadow386> incoming organization for backup maps
#904 [12:37] <Shadow386> yup, using it now
#905 [12:37] <Shadow386> :3
#906 [12:37] <xales> Shadow386: try an absolute path
#907 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Draglems1.
#908 [12:38] <Shadow386> on windows, but ill check
#909 [12:38] <xales> >.>
#910 [12:38] <Draglems1> What?
#911 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> 'lo.
#912 [12:38] <Shadow386> i tried it on my personal computer
#913 [12:38] <xales> like /var/spool/mcworlds/world1 would be epic
#914 [12:38] <Draglems1> Are you trolling?
#915 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> "spool"?
#916 [12:38] <xales> and yes. spool.
#917 [12:38] <Draglems1> Or are you trying to Say something?
#918 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> 10:39 < Draglems1> Sup guys.
#919 [12:38] <xales> DopeGhoti: I mount /var/spool and /var/run into RAM
#920 [12:38] <Shadow386> lemme check something
#921 [12:39] <DopeGhoti> I was responding with a cordial greeting, but if you want to be a jerk
#922 [12:39] <Draglems1> what does 'lo" mean?
#923 [12:39] <Draglems1> Oh.
#924 [12:39] <Draglems1> I Don't know what "lo" is.
#925 [12:39] <Draglems1> and Sorry if i sounded like a jerk.
#926 [12:39] <Draglems1> I'm just depressed and abit upset, brb.
#927 [12:39] <DopeGhoti> as in, hello?
#928 [12:39] <xales> because they are fine to go away when restarting and should be fast
#929 [12:39] * DopeGhoti sincerely hopes your day starts getting better, Draglems1.
#929 [12:39] <DopeGhoti> xales: that makes perfect sense
#930 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> xales: I keep meaning to fiddle with my server and load the world in /dev/shm
#931 [12:40] <Shadow386> xales nope
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#933 [12:41] <Shadow386> only runs in current folder and up
#934 [12:41] <Shadow386> you can probably go up with ../ though, but thats about it
#935 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> or symlink into /dev/shm (or /var/spool)
#936 [12:41] <xales> DopeGhoti: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE47 <-- when it isn't in RAM, it's usually awaiting a backup
#937 [12:42] <DopeGhoti> yeah, that's a stretch for the 'intended purpose' of spool IMO. More suited to /var/run/
#938 [12:43] <Shadow386> well maybe you could have a shortcut with the name to be another folder...
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#940 [12:43] <DopeGhoti> or /var/minecraft (:
#941 [12:43] <Draglems1> Back.
#942 [12:43] <xales> Shadow386: On Windows, a shortcut is a .lnk file
#943 [12:43] <Shadow386> i meant for linux
#944 [12:43] <xales> you need a symlink/"junction"
#945 [12:43] <Draglems1> My day has already started, around 22 hours ago.
#946 [12:43] <xales> a shortcut would be a hardlink
#947 [12:43] <Shadow386> I tested the root theory and it just made a folder called root
#948 [12:43] <xales> hardlink = bad
#949 [12:44] <Shadow386> ah
#950 [12:44] <xales> for that, anyway
#951 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> xales: NTFS5.1 and better actually do have symlinks, just not at the GUI level
#952 [12:44] <Draglems1> Just some bullies/Rude people being a ass to me..
#953 [12:44] <Frostie> Hi, is there a way to get a save (World) from one PC to another if I want to keep working on my project somewhere else? ._. Because I can't seem to find saves
#954 [12:44] <xales> DopeGhoti, but most people still using server 2003 and whatnot
#955 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> Draglems1: that's never fun.
#956 [12:44] <Draglems1> Frostie.
#957 [12:44] <xales> Frostie: $appdata%/.minecraft/saves
#958 [12:44] <Draglems1> Go to Start, Run, type in %appdata%
#959 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/savefiles
#960 [12:44] <VoxelHead> smp/savefiles: Yes, you can use your single-player world as a multiplayer map (or vice versa). Just maje the world= line in server.properties match the name of the directory the world you want to use is in.
#961 [12:44] <Draglems1> .minecraft
#962 [12:44] <VoxelHead> smp/savefiles: To use an SMP save in single-player, copy or rename the world directory to "world#" (where '#' is a number from one to five), and use that save slot in single-player.
#963 [12:44] <xales> maje?
#964 [12:44] <Draglems1> ./save
#965 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> Frostie: ^ that applies to moving between computers as well
#966 [12:45] <Frostie> thanks
#967 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> (also, typo correction needed)
#968 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> ??faq-close
#969 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> ??close-faq
#970 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> ??open-faq
#971 [12:46] <xales> ??~ smp/savefiles|Yes, you can use your single-player world as a mutliplayer map (or vice versa). Just make the world= line in server.properties match the name of the directory the world you want to use is in.;;To use an SMP save in single-player, copy or rename the world directory to "world#" (where '#' is a number from one to five), and use that save slot in single-player.
#972 [12:46] <xales> I just typed that out
#973 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> I.. just did that :p
#974 [12:46] <xales> :P
#975 [12:46] <Shadow386> lol
#976 [12:46] <xales> No, you cheated and edited it.
#977 [12:46] <xales> I typed it
#978 [12:46] <xales> :)
#979 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> same route, same destination.
#980 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> s/same/different/
#981 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> clearly I need to get more cefeine.
#982 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> ..I can't even spell that right. To the fridge-full-of-soda!
#983 [12:47] <aetherian> pfft
#984 [12:47] <aetherian> go for the coffe
#985 [12:47] <aetherian> *coffee
#986 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> Bleh
#987 [12:48] <DopeGhoti> don't like coffee, and we're out of tea.
#988 [12:48] <aetherian> no tea?
#989 [12:48] <aetherian> blimey
#990 [12:49] <Shadow386> DopeGhoti I got a shitload of mountain dew :D
#991 [12:55] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: I'm in the colonies, tea is a specialty item hereabouts.
#992 [12:55] <aetherian> man
#993 [12:55] <aetherian> that...
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#995 [12:56] <weirdo> hi there
#996 [12:56] * Rait waves
#996 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> nice visit there, weirdo.
#997 [13:07] <z1d> ive just started playing minecraft a couple days ago, and 1 day ago i started using this mod so i can build how much i want, and know it feels pointless playing it normal style cus it will take years to get to where i am in my mod world.. is it worth playing without the mod?
#998 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> z1d: I get a great satisfaction with knowing that the things that I have built, I also collected the resources for.
#999 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> z1d: Particilarly on my server, there is a great collective pride in knowing that the things we've built, we've *built*
#1000 [13:09] <z1d> do you only play on your server or any private game?
#1001 [13:09] <Frostie> z1d: Depends how much time you want to invest. I prefer collecting everything, trying to build a gigantinc floating biome atm and every bit of the sky I manage to cover gives me satisfaction after collecting all the stuff
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#1003 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> I play almost entirely on my server. Every so often I tinker offline or on other servers
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#1006 [13:13] <DopeGhoti> I do "cheat" in single player if I'm just testing RS circuits and the like.
#1007 [13:13] <z1d> ah ok thanks!
#1008 [13:15] * GreyVulpine yawns
#1008 [13:19] <aetherian> /tp greyvulpine bed
#1009 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> /tp denied: Not enough permissions
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#1012 [13:20] <bobd0le> So custom maps, where can i get them / how can i play them? :>
#1013 [13:20] <DopeGhoti> sudo /usr/bin/coffee | /mnt/greyvultine 2> /dev/null
#1014 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> bobd0le: as far as getting them, check the forums maybe? Insofar as playing them:
#1015 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/savefiles
#1016 [13:21] <VoxelHead> smp/savefiles: Yes, you can use your single-player world as a mutliplayer map (or vice versa). Just make the world= line in server.properties match the name of the directory the world you want to use is in.
#1017 [13:21] <VoxelHead> smp/savefiles: To use an SMP save in single-player, copy or rename the world directory to "world#" (where '#' is a number from one to five), and use that save slot in single-player.
#1018 [13:21] <bobd0le> ty dude!
#1019 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> \o
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#1021 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Ellie
#1022 [13:22] <bobd0le> mind if i idle? just incase anything else crops up?
#1023 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> shouldn't be a problem (:
#1024 [13:22] <lern> Question
#1025 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Answer.
#1026 [13:23] <lern> I've seen other people plant and gr-
#1027 [13:23] <lern> Hey vulp. My problem from yesterday's over.
#1028 [13:23] <lern> It seemed to pass this morning.
#1029 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Oh, neat
#1030 [13:23] <lern> oh well.
#1031 [13:23] <lern> NEXT QUESTION
#1032 [13:23] <lern> more of an ingame question
#1033 [13:23] <lern> I've seen others plant and grow sugar canes. How is that done?
#1034 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> lern: once you find sone growing naturally, just replant some next to water.
#1035 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Sugar_cane
#1036 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> (note to self: ?? wiki)
#1037 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> There's a neat little link...
#1038 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> ah, note schmote
#1039 [13:24] <lern> So basically
#1040 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> http://lmmcwtfy.com/
#1041 [13:24] <lern> Make a giant room
#1042 [13:25] <lern> Make a network of water
#1043 [13:25] <lern> and plant sugar cane in between the water
#1044 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Have enough torches for light
#1045 [13:25] <lern> Yes.
#1046 [13:25] <lern> Glass ceiling suffice?
#1047 [13:25] <lern> Or torches required too?
#1048 [13:25] <DopeGhoti> ??+ wiki|For general questions about Minecraft gameplay, the Minecraft Wiki is an excellent resource.;;Go to http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/ and enjoy!
#1049 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Either's fine
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#1051 [13:28] <luccid> ?
#1052 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#1053 [13:28] <lern> heat resistant bamboo
#1054 [13:28] <lern> that is awesome
#1055 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1056 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> luccid: .
#1057 [13:28] <luccid> why does it say message cannot be sent to channel in the #minecraft channel?
#1058 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> ?? irc
#1059 [13:28] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1060 [13:28] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1061 [13:28] <luccid> thank you
#1062 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> Quite welcome.
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#1065 [13:33] <empiremen1> Hi i have a question when i buy minecraft and a ney chapter comes out must i buy minecraft again oder not sry my english is not so good
#1066 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> empiremen1: When you buy Minecraft, you will get free updates until the final version is released. You will continue to get free fug-fix updates, but and "expansion packs" will not be free for you.
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#1068 [13:35] <empiremen1> ok thx i have another question can i make a server were my friends and i play minecraft together for free?
#1069 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> empiremen1: yes, you can; you can get the server software here:
#1070 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> erver
#1071 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> !server
#1072 [13:35] <aetherian> aahh
#1073 [13:35] <lern> Empire
#1074 [13:35] <lern> You must make sure your friends have the game aswell.
#1075 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> Please search the forums for information about how to use the server software.
#1076 [13:36] <lern> Otherwise they will not be able to participate.
#1077 [13:36] <aetherian> what do you mean, "info on how to use the server software"
#1078 [13:36] <aetherian> you start it up, and ir tuns
#1079 [13:36] <aetherian> *it
#1080 [13:36] <aetherian> *runs
#1081 [13:36] <empiremen1> thx to all
#1082 [13:36] <empiremen1> i have no more questions right now
#1083 [13:37] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: Seriously? All the questions you see in here about setting things up and port forwarding and whatnot, and you're nonplussed by "info on how to use the server"? Really?
#1084 [13:37] <aetherian> I was slightly sarcastic, as it isn't as hard as everyone acts like it is
#1085 [13:38] <aetherian> you open up the router page, choose the computer, forward the port, and bingo.
#1086 [13:38] <aetherian> a child could do it
#1087 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: For folks already up to speed on that sort of thing, yes
#1088 [13:39] <aetherian> dopeghoti: I'm not up to speed on it
#1089 [13:39] <aetherian> I just looked it up, found it, did it.
#1090 [13:39] <aetherian> requires no technological prowess with my router
#1091 [13:39] <aetherian> well, it was annoying figuring out the password to the router, but oh well >.>
#1092 [13:40] <aetherian> well, lurking in here may have helped a bit, before.
#1093 [13:40] <aetherian> but not much
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#1095 [13:42] <Dunno> how much does minecraft cost is it still 10 euro?
#1096 [13:42] <aetherian> 15
#1097 [13:42] <Dunno> thank :D
#1098 [13:43] <Dunno> thanks *
#1099 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> EUR14.95, ACTUALLY
#1100 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> </caps>
#1101 [13:43] <aetherian> oh stfu
#1102 [13:43] <aetherian> >:
#1103 [13:43] <Dunno> is it worth it?
#1104 [13:43] <xales> Dunno, yes
#1105 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> Dunno: In my opinion? Yes. But this is a biased crowd.
#1106 [13:44] <aetherian> dunno, it is.
#1107 [13:44] <Dunno> hmm ok ^^
#1108 [13:44] <aetherian> though it was worth it even more when I bought it
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#1110 [13:53] <empiremen1> Hi i have another question i want to buy minecraft. Is this than an download or an cd that will send to me sry my english is not so good
#1111 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Download
#1112 [13:53] <empiremen1> ok thx
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#1114 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, MK
#1115 [13:59] <MK> hey
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#1119 [14:04] <exp0> I am still sad
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#1123 [14:11] <feenyx> lern: you called?
#1124 [14:12] <xales> feenyx, have you met VoxelHead?
#1125 [14:12] <feenyx> xales: I've noticed him around, we've exchanged pleasantries :)
#1126 [14:12] <feenyx> ?? ask
#1127 [14:12] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1128 [14:12] <feenyx> and such
#1129 [14:12] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1130 [14:12] <xales> ok
#1131 [14:12] <xales> if you want to get set up to add entries, ask Dope
#1132 [14:12] <feenyx> mighty appreciated
#1133 [14:13] <feenyx> is there a list?
#1134 [14:13] <xales> yup
#1135 [14:13] <xales> http://mchelp.darksigns.net/faqbot
#1136 [14:13] <xales> it's updated hourly
#1137 [14:13] <xales> err, wrong filename
#1138 [14:13] <xales> faqindex
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#1140 [14:13] <feenyx> I was about to mention that
#1141 [14:13] <feenyx> will it respond to commands in a query, so I can check them out without spamming the channel?
#1142 [14:14] <xales> there's a channel for that
#1143 [14:14] <xales> it's #mcbots, but the access is restricted, so ChanServ will kickban you if you join before you get added
#1144 [14:14] <xales> so, one sec
#1145 [14:14] <xales> ok, you can join now
#1146 [14:15] <xales> just make sure you have identified, or ChanServ will ban you, though you should be able to /msg chanserv unban #mcbots
#1147 [14:16] <feenyx> I'm voiced, so should be identified
#1148 [14:16] <deem> i´m sad ... :(
#1149 [14:16] <deem> cant edit a map for multiplayer purpose -.-
#1150 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Sure you can
#1151 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> you can also use ##VoxelHead
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#1153 [14:16] <deem> it bugs every time
#1154 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#1155 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#1156 [14:17] <deem> now we use a hell lot of TNT to get rid of material :)
#1157 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> But.. but, mcedit should be able to clear out and level terrain
#1158 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> I've done it
#1159 [14:18] <deem> i've tried it
#1160 [14:18] <deem> :(
#1161 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> ...
#1162 [14:18] <deem> didnt work out
#1163 [14:18] <deem> the server was painfully slow afterwards
#1164 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Friggin...
#1165 [14:19] <Dunno> when i download minecraft is there only the exe??
#1166 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it'll download the rest of the files on launch
#1167 [14:19] <Blue_Star> yep
#1168 [14:19] <Dunno> ahh ok
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#1172 [14:31] <Kass> Hello
#1173 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#1174 [14:32] <Kass> Guys, my friend has the problem... he's trying to host on minecraft and we've fixed the stuff in his router, "thomson" something its called
#1175 [14:32] <Kass> but we still cant connect
#1176 [14:33] <feenyx> a thomson speedtouch I reckon
#1177 [14:33] <feenyx> and they're notoriously confusing to configure
#1178 [14:33] <Kass> nope, thomson tg7blablabla :på
#1179 [14:33] <Kass> yes they are
#1180 [14:33] <feenyx> did you wing it, or did you follow a guide on portforward.com?
#1181 [14:33] <Kass> i checked many videos on youtube
#1182 [14:33] <Kass> everyone was the same
#1183 [14:33] <Kass> and i did as told
#1184 [14:33] <Kass> but stll
#1185 [14:34] <Kass> "connecting to the server...."
#1186 [14:34] <Kass> no answers :p
#1187 [14:34] * Shadow386 makes a virus and inserts into GreyBot
#1187 [14:34] <Shadow386> good bot
#1188 [14:34] * GreyBot purrs.
#1188 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> !grey off
#1189 [14:34] * GreyVulpine stabs
#1189 [14:34] <Shadow386> FUUUUUUU
#1190 [14:34] * Shadow386 dies
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#1191 [14:35] <Shadow386> it was funny though, someone said good AuBot and GreyBot purred
#1192 [14:35] <Shadow386> we were like, wtf
#1193 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Kass - Care to give us some screenshots of the config pages?
#1194 [14:36] <Kass> i dunno how to :p
#1195 [14:36] <Shadow386> im thinking it could be a router or firewall issue
#1196 [14:36] <Kass> and its on swedish
#1197 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> That's fine
#1198 [14:36] <Kass> firewall hmm
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#1200 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Got a print screen button on your keyboard?
#1201 [14:36] <Kass> firewall on his computer or on the router
#1202 [14:36] <Shadow386> computer
#1203 [14:36] <Kass> yes, hangon
#1204 [14:37] <Shadow386> /facepalm
#1205 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Press that, takes a screenshot of whatever's on the screen right now.
#1206 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Open it up in an image editor of your choice, windows has paint
#1207 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Save it, upload it to an image hosting site of your choice, I recommend imgur.com
#1208 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Give us the URl
#1209 [14:37] <Shadow386> imgur.com <3
#1210 [14:38] <aetherian> how do you even pronounce that
#1211 [14:38] <Shadow386> image URRR
#1212 [14:38] <aetherian> like, imj-urr
#1213 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> "Imager"
#1214 [14:38] <Shadow386> yeah or that
#1215 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> hard-g I suppose
#1216 [14:38] <aetherian> or more like, imjer
#1217 [14:38] <Shadow386> you're an imager D:<
#1218 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> imgrrr
#1219 [14:38] <feenyx> imgh-urr
#1220 [14:38] <aetherian> I'm grrr
#1221 [14:38] <Shadow386> img-urr
#1222 [14:38] <feenyx> I'm grrr!
#1223 [14:38] <aetherian> img hurrr durrr
#1224 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> ANYhow
#1225 [14:39] <aetherian> haha
#1226 [14:39] <Shadow386> anywho*
#1227 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> can we get back tp watching GreyVulpine help Kass now?
#1228 [14:39] <Shadow386> he's busy screen-copying his stuff
#1229 [14:39] <aetherian> get back to teleporting grey to help kass?
#1230 [14:39] <Shadow386> nothing to see here
#1231 [14:39] <feenyx> "We now return you to our regular scheduled programming"
#1232 [14:39] <Kass> okay URL coming in like 2 sec
#1233 [14:39] <aetherian> hury
#1234 [14:40] <aetherian> hey uh\
#1235 [14:40] <aetherian> what's the mode +p do
#1236 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> private channel
#1237 [14:40] <aetherian> o.o
#1238 [14:40] <Kass> btw
#1239 [14:40] <aetherian> what's that supposed to mean
#1240 [14:40] <aetherian> why is this channel private now
#1241 [14:40] <xales> aetherian: nobody can invite but ops
#1242 [14:40] <xales> actually, why are we +p?
#1243 [14:40] <Kass> ive translated minecraft from port 25565 to 25565 in the router, it should be like that right?
#1244 [14:40] <Shadow386> not even +v? :<
#1245 [14:40] <aetherian> but anyone can join, obvly
#1246 [14:41] <Shadow386> Kass yes
#1247 [14:41] <aetherian> so xales, it doesn't really do anything >.>
#1248 [14:41] <Shadow386> does it forward to the computers' IPv4? (i forget x_x)
#1249 [14:41] <xales> 14:41:05 [espernet] -!- cmode +p - 'Paranoia'. This mode restricts half-ops (if available) and
#1250 [14:41] <xales> 14:41:05 [espernet] -!- cmode ordinary users from inviting other users into a channel.
#1251 [14:41] <aetherian> it doesn't do anything in this channels case...
#1252 [14:41] <Shadow386> why do you guys want it private?
#1253 [14:42] <aetherian> anyone can see/join it
#1254 [14:42] <aetherian> yay :D
#1255 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Bah, damn this IRCd
#1256 [14:42] <xales> might as well do that
#1257 [14:42] <Shadow386> arent we supposed to help?
#1258 [14:42] <aetherian> not turn off +c :O
#1259 [14:42] <Shadow386> leave it on
#1260 [14:42] <Shadow386> last thing we need is colors
#1261 [14:42] <aetherian> ctrlk ctrlk ctrlk
#1262 [14:42] <aetherian> O
#1263 [14:42] <aetherian> colors are awesome...
#1264 [14:43] <Kass> cant put in the url o.o
#1265 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> ?
#1266 [14:43] <aetherian> o.o
#1267 [14:43] <Shadow386> copy and paste?
#1268 [14:43] <Kass> trying
#1269 [14:43] <aetherian> put it into bitly, if it's too bigt
#1270 [14:43] <aetherian> *big
#1271 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> imgur links aren't long
#1272 [14:43] <aetherian> I wouldn't know
#1273 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> You should
#1274 [14:43] <aetherian> I never really need to upload pics anywhere
#1275 [14:43] <aetherian> imguh hur dur
#1276 [14:44] <Kass> http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/338/70930087.png
#1277 [14:44] <Kass> there we go
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#1279 [14:45] <feenyx> I'm assuming the MineCraftforLIFE service is configured with 25565 port? :)
#1280 [14:45] <aetherian> what lang izzat
#1281 [14:46] <feenyx> swedish
#1282 [14:46] <fogWraith> Oh, one of those routers
#1283 [14:46] <Kass> yes it is :p
#1284 [14:46] <Shadow386> Kass did you put his external IP in there?
#1285 [14:46] <fogWraith> Make sure you don't have a trigger port defined
#1286 [14:46] <feenyx> and yeah, the internal IP of his computer goes in that field
#1287 [14:46] <Kass> i put his local ip there
#1288 [14:46] <Shadow386> okay
#1289 [14:46] <Shadow386> hm
#1290 [14:46] <feenyx> 192.168.something.something ?
#1291 [14:46] <Kass> exactly
#1292 [14:46] <Shadow386> check his firewall
#1293 [14:46] <Shadow386> on his computer
#1294 [14:47] <Kass> okay
#1295 [14:47] <Kass> what should i do
#1296 [14:47] <Kass> turn it off or?
#1297 [14:47] <Shadow386> open port 25565
#1298 [14:47] <Kass> okay
#1299 [14:47] <xales> turn it off is better
#1300 [14:47] <xales> if that fixes it, then try opening just the port
#1301 [14:47] <Shadow386> :P
#1302 [14:48] <Kass> dude
#1303 [14:48] <Kass> it was turned off ._.
#1304 [14:48] <xales> sounds like it was port-forwarded incorrectly then
#1305 [14:48] <Kass> damn thomson xD
#1306 [14:48] <fogWraith> Kass: du har väl ingen trigger port definerad i den där?
#1307 [14:48] <Kass> vad menar du?
#1308 [14:49] <aetherian> hey guys
#1309 [14:49] <fogWraith> Du får skriva in porten när du lägger till en custom forward va?
#1310 [14:49] <feenyx> I cannot verbally express my hatred for thompson devices :(
#1311 [14:49] <Kass> man kunde typ "översätta" en port till en annan
#1312 [14:49] <Kass> o då tog ja 25565 till 25565
#1313 [14:49] <aetherian> do you think an Integrated NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE would be enough graphics to play mc?
#1314 [14:49] <aetherian> like, what reqs would it be for mc
#1315 [14:49] <fogWraith> I de två fälten till vänster? Lämande du de två till höger tomma?
#1316 [14:49] <Shadow386> aetherian I had that
#1317 [14:49] <Shadow386> on my laptop I think
#1318 [14:49] <Shadow386> and it ran decently
#1319 [14:49] <Kass> aa de gjorde jag
#1320 [14:49] <aetherian> ah good
#1321 [14:49] <Shadow386> lemme see what i have on my desktop
#1322 [14:49] <fogWraith> Okej
#1323 [14:50] <aetherian> I'm looking into buying a cheap desktop
#1324 [14:50] <fogWraith> Har du så man får låna lite remote access och kika?
#1325 [14:50] <Shadow386> 6150 SE sounds familiar though. i think i used it before
#1326 [14:50] <Kass> ja vet inte riktigt hu man gör de :p
#1327 [14:50] <fogWraith> PM
#1328 [14:51] <Shadow386> I got this one from my friend for $100 and had my own ram, he threw in a 20" monitor free
#1329 [14:51] <Shadow386> added my own ram, 4 gigs
#1330 [14:51] <Shadow386> lifes good except this is the fastest pc I've ever owned
#1331 [14:51] <aetherian> haha
#1332 [14:51] <aetherian> I have an awesome laptop :3
#1333 [14:51] <aetherian> but never had a desktop
#1334 [14:52] <aetherian> brb, gotta get a measuring tape
#1335 [14:52] <Shadow386> I had a laptop, but need a new hard drive. planning on saving up for a nice video card for the desktop as well
#1336 [14:52] <Shadow386> kk
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#1338 [14:55] <aetherian> I got a 1 gig gpu for my laptop
#1339 [14:55] <Shadow386> niceee
#1340 [14:55] <aetherian> :D
#1341 [14:56] <aetherian> yay for gaming laptops
#1342 [14:56] <aetherian> gt640, btw
#1343 [14:57] <aetherian> I think mc can run on 2gb ram, on normal/short/tiny distance
#1344 [14:57] <Shadow386> I did
#1345 [14:58] <feenyx> it can run on less, but not pleasantly :p
#1346 [14:58] <Shadow386> with a 128mb gpu
#1347 [15:00] <aetherian> heh
#1348 [15:00] <aetherian> friend of mine can run it on tiny, with 512mb ram.
#1349 [15:00] <aetherian> however
#1350 [15:00] <Shadow386> my laptop is an older Viao :P
#1351 [15:00] <aetherian> if he presses "f", it goes to hell
#1352 [15:00] <aetherian> ie crashes
#1353 [15:00] <feenyx> lol
#1354 [15:00] <Shadow386> VGN-FZ145E
#1355 [15:00] <fogWraith> \o/
#1356 [15:00] <aetherian> I don't even want to know what graphics thing he had
#1357 [15:01] <Shadow386> I need $50 and I can get this awesome video card from newegg
#1358 [15:01] <aetherian> well there, that computer looks good.
#1359 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: so get a job.
#1360 [15:01] <aetherian> now I just need to make money D:
#1361 [15:01] <Shadow386> link us to what you're getting?
#1362 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> you too, aetherian
#1363 [15:01] <Shadow386> DopeGhoti wish I could :P
#1364 [15:01] <aetherian> dopeghoti: if I was old enough, I actually would
#1365 [15:02] <aetherian> but alas
#1366 [15:02] <aetherian> hmm
#1367 [15:02] <aetherian> screw this computer
#1368 [15:02] <aetherian> I want to build my own
#1369 [15:02] <Shadow386> I live in the middle of nowhere where the closest shop is a sex shop, and they arent even hiring >_>
#1370 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> Shadow386: open a store.
#1371 [15:02] <aetherian> I doubt they hire at 16 :#
#1372 [15:02] <Shadow386> DopeGhoti and sell what? my underwear? lol
#1373 [15:02] <aetherian> yes
#1374 [15:02] <aetherian> very yes
#1375 [15:03] <Shadow386> that reminds me, I need to get some more...
#1376 [15:03] <aetherian> o.o
#1377 [15:03] <Shadow386> damn underpants gnomes
#1378 [15:03] <aetherian> it's so annoying shopping for them too
#1379 [15:03] <aetherian> it's not like one can try them on >.>
#1380 [15:03] <aetherian> "herp derp I'll just slip these on right here, don't bother going to the changing rooms even"
#1381 [15:03] <feenyx> aetherian: in 7 years, you'll have learned to look at the tags of your current ones to check the size
#1382 [15:03] <aetherian> *in 7 years
#1383 [15:04] <aetherian> damn growth
#1384 [15:04] <feenyx> it's just an average of how long it takes a person to realize and do it :p
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#1386 [15:04] <xpl> hey
#1387 [15:04] <aetherian> and to be able to do it, feenyx
#1388 [15:04] <xpl> could anyone help me configuring a server running hmod?
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#1390 [15:04] <xxt_mater> hello
#1391 [15:05] <xxt_mater> is it possible to change my login name on minecraft ?
#1392 [15:05] <xxt_mater> if i mail someone of minecraft staff ?
#1393 [15:05] <feenyx> ??> mods xpl
#1394 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> ??> xpl mods
#1395 [15:05] <VoxelHead> xpl: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1396 [15:05] <VoxelHead> xpl: (mods) For assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1397 [15:05] <feenyx> ah
#1398 [15:05] <xxt_mater> wat ?
#1399 [15:06] <feenyx> xxt_mater: if you mail them, yes, it should be possible. But it might take a fair bit of time, they're quite backlogged at the moment :)
#1400 [15:06] <aetherian> ??>!
#1401 [15:07] <xxt_mater> what e-mail ?
#1402 [15:07] <aetherian> feenyx: understatement
#1403 [15:07] <feenyx> xxt_mater: support@mojang.com
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#1405 [15:07] <aetherian> oh god
#1406 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> ...you all right there, aetherian?
#1407 [15:08] <aetherian> I'm going to have the katamari damacy song stuck in my head all day now
#1408 [15:08] <aetherian> so no, I am not
#1409 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> I can help you out with that.
#1410 [15:08] <aetherian> no raping my ears
#1411 [15:08] <aetherian> literally or figuratively
#1412 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> ./~ It's a small world after all. ./~
#1413 [15:09] <aetherian> ehh
#1414 [15:09] * Kealper rawrs
#1414 [15:09] <aetherian> you can't get songs stuck in my head from text if I have equally/more catchy music playing right now
#1415 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> ./~ This is the song that never ends / Yes, it goes on and on my friends ./~
#1416 [15:09] * aetherian puts kealper back into his cage
#1416 [15:09] <aetherian> dopeghoti: I never knew the tune to that
#1417 [15:10] <aetherian> o.o
#1418 [15:10] * DopeGhoti queues up "Theme from Unsolved Mysteries"
#1418 [15:10] * aetherian doesn't know how it goes
#1418 [15:10] <aetherian> is that some sort of a tv show
#1419 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> you're lucky you don't have younger siblings that watch(ed) too much television.
#1420 [15:10] <aetherian> no
#1421 [15:10] <aetherian> I'm unlucky
#1422 [15:10] <aetherian> know why?
#1423 [15:10] <Kealper> http://www.avaaz.org/en/mubaraks_fortune/?copy
#1424 [15:10] <xales> Kealper, http://mchelp.darksigns.net/faqindex <-- updates hourly
#1425 [15:11] <Kealper> automatically?
#1426 [15:11] <xales> yup
#1427 [15:11] * Kealper bookmarks
#1427 [15:11] * aetherian has a television with dvd player, game console, but has never had a television with actual TV
#1427 [15:11] <aetherian> >:
#1428 [15:11] <Kealper> ok anywho
#1429 [15:11] <aetherian> "sucks up the time" and all that stuff. you know.
#1430 [15:11] <Kealper> go sign that petition i linked
#1431 [15:12] * aetherian looks
#1431 [15:12] <Kealper> it's about getting countries to freeze assets for Mubarak's cash
#1432 [15:12] <aetherian> no thank you, I prefer to only vote on petitions I know more about.
#1433 [15:13] <Kealper> atm he's just going to leave Egypt with about 70 billion dollars of Egypt's cash
#1434 [15:13] <aetherian> ...
#1435 [15:13] <aetherian> wow
#1436 [15:13] <Kealper> which is a MASSIVE chunk of their total cashmonies
#1437 [15:13] <aetherian> I've been thinking about earthbound too much
#1438 [15:13] <aetherian> I saw that as automatic teller machine he's just goi-
#1439 [15:14] <aetherian> o.o
#1440 [15:14] <aetherian> know what I think is weird
#1441 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> that you don't finish your sentences?
#1442 [15:15] <aetherian> no
#1443 [15:15] <aetherian> that would have been spam
#1444 [15:15] <aetherian> on my client, arranging nicks by alphabet, aubot is at the top.
#1445 [15:15] <Kealper> it's really cool on that Avaaz site, they have a ticker that updates like once a second, and you can just see signers flying in lol
#1446 [15:15] <aetherian> thus, it looks like he's the headmaster
#1447 [15:15] <Kealper> O.o
#1448 [15:15] <aetherian> all behold the might automatic bot
#1449 [15:15] <Kealper> AuBot.... #MineCraftHelp Overwatch
#1450 [15:16] <Kealper> i should get it in #idle and call it that lol
#1451 [15:16] <aetherian> #idle ?
#1452 [15:16] <Kealper> IdleRPG
#1453 [15:16] <aetherian> do people actually idle there?
#1454 [15:16] <aetherian> aww
#1455 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> The game you play by not playing.
#1456 [15:16] <aetherian> :O
#1457 [15:16] * aetherian references one of the more retarded pieces of culture
#1457 [15:16] <aetherian> I just lost it
#1458 [15:16] <Kealper> it's like The Game (yes, i said it) but older, and you get levels and gear!
#1459 [15:17] <aetherian> kealper: I said it before you
#1460 [15:17] <xpl> hey, could anyone help me setting up an admin or an op? it doesnt work on my server
#1461 [15:17] <aetherian> it does
#1462 [15:17] <Kealper> aetherian: shush you, i thought of it first >.>
#1463 [15:17] <xales> xpl: are you using online-mode=false?
#1464 [15:17] <aetherian> kealper: doubt it
#1465 [15:17] * aetherian tends to reread what he is going to post, for longer ones.
#1465 [15:18] <aetherian> otherwise, I get speling erors, ya no
#1466 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: Randall won The Game a long time ago; you're free!
#1467 [15:18] <aetherian> lol
#1468 [15:18] * aetherian knows that one
#1468 [15:18] * xales pokes xpl
#1468 [15:18] <Kealper> actually, according to Notch, he has won the game a fwe years ago
#1469 [15:18] <aetherian> http://xkcd.com/391/ ?
#1470 [15:18] <xpl> @xales no its on true, the server functions just fine, my friends and I can connect and build
#1471 [15:18] <xpl> just the admin commands dont work
#1472 [15:19] <xales> xpl: did you make yourself an op, by putting your name in the ops.txt file?
#1473 [15:19] <xpl> yes im an op in ops.txt
#1474 [15:19] <xpl> its a rented server from multiplay btw.
#1475 [15:19] <xales> what commands are you trying to use taht don't work?
#1476 [15:19] <xales> that*
#1477 [15:19] <xpl> kick, tp, give
#1478 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> xpl: after you added yourself to ops.txt, did you restart the server?
#1479 [15:19] <xpl> yes i did
#1480 [15:19] <xpl> multiple times
#1481 [15:20] <xpl> it just says unknown command
#1482 [15:20] <NinjaKirby> I personally dislike the new map generations, if anyone here is willing to help me recover my Corrupt map, I will Pay money for it. I'm that tired of starting over on glitched maps.
#1483 [15:20] <xales> unknown command doesn't mean that you aren't an op
#1484 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> xpl: are you entering the commands in chat, or in the server console?
#1485 [15:20] <xpl> they work when entered in the server console
#1486 [15:20] * xales goes home
#1486 [15:20] <xpl> i want to use them in the chat
#1487 [15:20] * xales will be back later
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#1488 [15:20] <Zi> Anyone remember me?
#1489 [15:21] <NinjaKirby> No takers? Dayum boi
#1490 [15:21] <aetherian> be raught bock
#1491 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: in what manner is your map currupted?
#1492 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: and how old is it?
#1493 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> (e. g. is it pre-biome?)
#1494 [15:21] <NinjaKirby> A few chunks don't load properly. I have a backup that's about 3 weeks old, I just need to discern based on the errors coming up, which to replace.
#1495 [15:21] <NinjaKirby> And it's very recent
#1496 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> do you know the coordinates of the broken chunks?
#1497 [15:22] <NinjaKirby> Pre-Grey Tree's at least, and... I got the impression the resulting errors indicated the Coordinates somehow? ^^;;
#1498 [15:23] <NinjaKirby> Switching the Level.dat with an older one, it loads successfuly but only to 77%
#1499 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> the save file filenames are directly related to the location of the corresponding chunk. If you know the incame coordinates, you know which chunks to remove.
#1500 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> and what do you mean "loads successfully [...] only to 77%".. you mean the "generating spawn area" messages?
#1501 [15:24] <NinjaKirby> Right... so for now resort to the botched Fix version with reset chunks, and go from there to collect the necessary data.
#1502 [15:24] <NinjaKirby> And yes O_o
#1503 [15:24] <NinjaKirby> Is it too serious to fix?
#1504 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> okay; just delete the chunks surrounding spawn; that should fix that.
#1505 [15:24] <NinjaKirby> Ah wait, let me load the Server.
#1506 [15:25] <NinjaKirby> Uh... what the hell, hold on, sorry.
#1507 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: try deleting world/0/0/c/0.0.dat
#1508 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> rather
#1509 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: try deleting world/0/0/c.0.0.dat
#1510 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> also, world/1/0/c.1.0.dat and world/0/1/c.0.1.day
#1511 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> s/day/dat/
#1512 [15:27] <Kealper> .day files ftw
#1513 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> and world/1/1/c.1.1.dat
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#1515 [15:28] <Guest1390139947> can comone help me/
#1516 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#1517 [15:28] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1518 [15:28] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1519 [15:28] <NinjaKirby> Is that all relating to the Spawn Issue? I think I've... just escalated the problem inadvertently, by loading and having the new reset chunks saved.
#1520 [15:28] <Guest1390139947> i got the steelseries shift keyboard and its crashing minecraft right after the mojang specifacation screen
#1521 [15:28] <Guest1390139947> cant even run a webpage one
#1522 [15:28] <NinjaKirby> Okay, hold on, I think with the Cordinate information, I might be okay... thanks Dope, I'll have a toy with it
#1523 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> Guest1390139947: are you running Windows?
#1524 [15:29] <Guest1390139947> yeah windows XP
#1525 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> ?? reinst/win
#1526 [15:29] <VoxelHead> reinst/win: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1527 [15:29] <VoxelHead> reinst/win: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1528 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: good luck! Where's my money? (:
#1529 [15:29] <Guest1390139947> i tried that before
#1530 [15:29] <Kealper> so...maybe i just suck at paying attention, but how does a keyboard interfere with minecraft laoding?
#1531 [15:29] <Kealper> loading*
#1532 [15:29] <Guest1390139947> donno
#1533 [15:29] <Guest1390139947> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x7c910f1e, pid=636, tid=1024 # # JRE version: 6.0_23-b05 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (19.0-b09 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [ntdll.dll+0x10f1e] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: #
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#1535 [15:29] <Guest1390139947> but on the NET somone had the same keyboard withthe same prolbem
#1536 [15:29] <Kealper> ntdll.dll....
#1537 [15:29] <Chad> help
#1538 [15:30] <Chad> :(
#1539 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> ??> Chad ask
#1540 [15:30] <VoxelHead> Chad: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1541 [15:30] <VoxelHead> Chad: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1542 [15:30] <Kealper> ninja'd
#1543 [15:30] <Chad> I'm having difficulty setting my server up on ramdisk
#1544 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> ?? specific
#1545 [15:30] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specifig and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are bery helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#1546 [15:30] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#1547 [15:30] <Guest1390139947> i tried erasing using %appdata% and stuff but it still crashes
#1548 [15:30] <Chad> bleh ubuntu seems much easier to do it on
#1549 [15:30] <aetherian> dopeghoti: VoxelHead: specifig?
#1550 [15:30] <Chad> From the begining
#1551 [15:30] <Guest1390139947> http://mibpaste.com/TzOoUT
#1552 [15:31] <Chad> haha bery
#1553 [15:31] <Chad> are bery helpful
#1554 [15:31] <aetherian> haha
#1555 [15:31] <aetherian> berries
#1556 [15:31] <NinjaKirby> X,Y,Z can be translated to a Directory Path?
#1557 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1558 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> that's what I get for composing FAQ entries at 1AM
#1559 [15:31] <Chad> Who wrote that >_>
#1560 [15:31] <aetherian> lol
#1561 [15:31] <Chad> :P
#1562 [15:31] <Kealper> Notch? lol
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#1564 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: Z, X; Y is irrelevant.
#1565 [15:31] <Guest1390139947> any ideas/
#1566 [15:32] <Chad> wondering if someone would be so kind as to walk me through setting up my ramdisk for minecraft
#1567 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Anyhow, Chad what specific problems are you having
#1568 [15:32] <Guest1390139947> i tried deleting the minecraft files and such but still crashes
#1569 [15:32] <Chad> I'm puting the entire server on ramdisk
#1570 [15:32] <Chad> not just the map
#1571 [15:32] <NinjaKirby> Sorry, so it's another piece of information on the F3 Display I go by?
#1572 [15:32] <aetherian> it would be berry nice if you could be specifig
#1573 [15:32] <Chad> and will just back up the whole server folder 3 times daily
#1574 [15:32] <NinjaKirby> Looking out for Number changes, but nothing obvious correlates
#1575 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Chad: how much RAM has the server got?
#1576 [15:32] <Chad> 8gb
#1577 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Chad: and how large is /dev/shm if you look in the output of `df -h`?
#1578 [15:33] <Kealper> hmm....
#1579 [15:33] <Chad> tmpfs 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /dev/shm
#1580 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: X and Z are NESW coordinates; Y is vertical. use X and Z and ignore Y.
#1581 [15:33] <Guest1390139947> anyone/
#1582 [15:33] <Chad> isn't that tmpfs though
#1583 [15:33] <Chad> I herd tmpfs uses more cpu than ramdisk
#1584 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> tmpfs _is_ RAMdisk.
#1585 [15:33] <Chad> oh
#1586 [15:33] <Chad> O.o
#1587 [15:34] <Chad> then how come people on bukkit forums were arguing tmpfs vs ramdisk
#1588 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> Because they don't know what they're talking about?
#1589 [15:34] <Kealper> anyone here actually know what could cause java to crash from ntdll.dll?
#1590 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> That's a windows problem, not java
#1591 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Guest1390139947 sorry, I have no idea what could cause that crash. Try another keyboard to see whether that's really the cause?
#1592 [15:34] <Kealper> that's what i'm thinking too
#1593 [15:34] <Chad> Dope: http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/harddrive-vs-ramdisk-vs-tmpfs-benchmark.2710/
#1594 [15:35] <Guest1390139947> ok
#1595 [15:35] <Guest1390139947> i knwo what to do
#1596 [15:35] <Kealper> Guest1390139947: got an old crappy keyboard around that you could try?
#1597 [15:35] <Chad> they sound like they know what they are talking about
#1598 [15:35] <Guest1390139947> ill disconnect the keyboard and use hte mouse
#1599 [15:35] <Guest1390139947> holdonb
#1600 [15:35] <Kealper> actually...
#1601 [15:36] * Kealper checks what ntdll.dll actually handles...
#1601 [15:36] <NinjaKirby> Dope: I have the coords of the Corner of the reset chunk, I read something about Base36 addressing?
#1602 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: indeed, take the coordinates from in-game, which are decimal, and convert to base36
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#1604 [15:36] <Chad> well dope? why are people comparing tmpfs and ramdisk, there is multiple threads on it
#1605 [15:37] <Chad> If they are the same.
#1606 [15:37] <Chad> I am really confused :/
#1607 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/overview-of-ramfs-and-tmpfs-on-linux/
#1608 [15:38] <Chad> OHHH
#1609 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> the main difference is that ramfs will happily glom up all your RAM; tmpfs has a speficific size above which it will be considered 'full'
#1610 [15:38] <Chad> they are the filesystems
#1611 [15:38] <Chad> facepalm
#1612 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> tmpfs can be swapped out if the server really needs the room.
#1613 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> but they're both RAM.
#1614 [15:38] <Chad> oh ok
#1615 [15:39] <Chad> alright so how would I got about setting up a 512 mb folder on tmpfs to throw my minecraft server into
#1616 [15:39] <Chad> go about*
#1617 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> I'd call it that, sure, but monitor it
#1618 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> and if it gets close to full, allocate a bigger chunk
#1619 [15:40] <Chad> alright
#1620 [15:40] <Kealper> everything i'm reading on ntdll.dll seems fairly important....so...one could assume if people get that, their windows is borked?
#1621 [15:40] <luckz> any idea why I cant change my skin?
#1622 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> luckz - You can, check in-game
#1623 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> luckz: you can; it just won't display on the site.
#1624 [15:40] <NinjaKirby> Converted them Dope ^^;; I have the X by Z in Base36, getting closer to aligning it to the Directory? XD
#1625 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: sounds like a reasonable analysus
#1626 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Hey, what do you know..
#1627 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Ramdisk_enabled_server
#1628 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: I just need to remember if the dave directories are x/z/ or z/x/
#1629 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> s/dave/save/
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#1631 [15:41] <Chad> greay
#1632 [15:41] <Chad> grey...
#1633 [15:42] <Chad> not that simple on centos
#1634 [15:42] <Chad> that works for unbuntu
#1635 [15:42] <luckz> DopeGhoti: well I get "Failed to save skin: org.jets3t.service.S3ServiceException: Request Error. PUT '/MinecraftSkins/Luckz.png' on Host 's3.amazonaws.com' @ 'Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:40:13 GMT' -- ResponseCode: 400, ResponseStatus: Bad Request"
#1636 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> luckz - Don't use minecraftskins to upload
#1637 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Save it on your hard drive
#1638 [15:42] <NinjaKirby> Erm... ^^;; s/dave/save? I can google that XD
#1639 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> then use the profile page at minecraft.net to upload it
#1640 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> Chad: oh god centos, I'm so sorry
#1641 [15:42] <Chad> what
#1642 [15:42] <Chad> :<
#1643 [15:43] <NinjaKirby> I anticipate a Typo in there
#1644 [15:43] <Chad> dop your scaring me >_>
#1645 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> Chad: I just.. don't get along well with Red Hat-descended distributions.
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#1647 [15:43] <Chad> :(
#1648 [15:43] * DopeGhoti _loathes_ rpm, up2date, and yum
#1648 [15:43] <Chad> looking for centos expert!
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#1650 [15:43] <Chad> haha
#1651 [15:44] <Alia5> hey.. um... what things dont work with wich alternate server-software? >.<
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#1653 [15:44] <Kealper> Chad: xales
#1654 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> Alia5 mods
#1655 [15:44] <VoxelHead> Alia5: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1656 [15:44] <VoxelHead> Alia5: (mods) For assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1657 [15:44] <Chad> xales!
#1658 [15:44] <Chad> where are you!
#1659 [15:44] <Chad> :(
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#1661 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> Chad: in all seriousness, the mount -t tmpfs commands should still work in CentOS
#1662 [15:45] <Alia5> but alternate servers arent mods? oO or dont i understand the definition of "modification"?
#1663 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> If it's not an official server that you got from minecraft.net, it's a mod
#1664 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Mod means modification. Means it's been changed from what is the original intention of the author to work in a different way that is unsupported offically
#1665 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> officially*
#1666 [15:46] <Jackson413> what is CentOS?
#1667 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> !wiki centOS
#1668 [15:46] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS
#1669 [15:46] <GreyBot> CentOS is a community-supported, mainly free software operating system based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux. It exists to provide a free enterprise class computing platform and strives to maintain 100% binary compatibility with its upstream distribution. CentOS stands for Community ENTerprise Operating System.
#1670 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: CentOS is a distribution of Linux that is a community-supported version of RHEL
#1671 [15:46] <NinjaKirby> Dope: Sorry to continue to trouble you T_T My results are 'Two' plus 'Letter O', then 'Three Four'. It doesn't align with the directories, I must be making an error somewhere.
#1672 [15:46] <deem> i´m looking for a simple backup admin tool anyone has an idea? its for a beta server
#1673 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Cron
#1674 [15:47] <Alia5> oh god i hate this... well anyways bb... :/ why the f... nowhere you can get just a qucki list i dont understand this.. -.-
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#1676 [15:47] <deem> did take a look at the wiki but there´s some stuff there and i kinda like some approved program ;)
#1677 [15:47] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti: huh is it new or why have i just been hearing about it more recently?
#1678 [15:47] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: it's been around a while.
#1679 [15:48] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti: well i guess im just sheltered from technology
#1680 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Lucky you.
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#1682 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: okay, so the X is 2o, and the Z is 34?
#1683 [15:52] <NinjaKirby> Affirmative
#1684 [15:53] <NinjaKirby> I'm using a web based conversion utility, so hopefully human error is excluded (96x112 were the originals)
#1685 [15:54] * Chad ugh
#1685 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> ok, so do you have world/2o?
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#1687 [15:54] <crashed123> good news but bad news
#1688 [15:54] <crashed123> its the keyboard
#1689 [15:54] <crashed123> but
#1690 [15:54] <crashed123> blue screen of death
#1691 [15:55] <crashed123> i unplugged it minecraft ran i plugged it back in and computer crashed
#1692 [15:55] <NinjaKirby> Dope: Not that I can identify, the highest is 1R
#1693 [15:55] <crashed123> bad keyboard drivers
#1694 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> gmm
#1695 [15:55] <crashed123> frogot to ad that the drivers cause direct x to crash and if i changed the kys windows crashes too
#1696 [15:56] <NinjaKirby> I'm surprised this isn't documented through someone reversing this previously ~_~
#1697 [15:56] <crashed123> lol
#1698 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> You mean: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Alpha_Level_Format
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#1700 [15:57] * Kealper runs off to buy some guitar strings
#1700 [15:57] <NinjaKirby> There is more formula to it, and I've been on that page before, but if I'm honest, my web page text is so tiny I didn't glimpse the break down XD
#1701 [15:58] <NinjaKirby> "There is more formula to it", is merely me voicing an observation, for clarity XD
#1702 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: okay, I need you to translate 32 and 48 to base36 for me please
#1703 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> since you have that tool handt
#1704 [15:59] <NinjaKirby> W, then 1C
#1705 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> okay look in world/w/1c/
#1706 [16:00] <NinjaKirby> I think I'm going to cry
#1707 [16:00] <DopeGhoti> I think I'm going to lunch.
#1708 [16:01] <NinjaKirby> It isn't there, and 1C isn't present in many folders... alright :) Thanks for your help man
#1709 [16:01] <NinjaKirby> With this Formula, I'll have a bash as well
#1710 [16:03] <Chad> ok so I did this
#1711 [16:03] <Chad> mkdir /mnt/ram && mount -v -t tmpfs -o size=512M none /mnt/ram
#1712 [16:03] <Chad> made said directory which is apparently on ram
#1713 [16:03] <Chad> now I cannot move anything to it :(
#1714 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> chown it to the user who'll be hosting the MC server.
#1715 [16:03] <aetherian> back
#1716 [16:04] <Chad> I did it to root for the moment
#1717 [16:04] <Chad> and still cannot move anything
#1718 [16:04] <Chad> :(
#1719 [16:05] <aetherian> :)
#1720 [16:15] <Chad> I did it!
#1721 [16:15] <Chad> server is now up and running in ramdisk
#1722 [16:16] <Chad> Would anyone mind hopping on so I can test lag, curious if players still studder ect
#1723 [16:16] <Chad> 184.82.1.122
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#1725 [16:17] <Arkose> seems fine to me
#1726 [16:19] <Chad> Yeah your movement was smooth
#1727 [16:19] <Chad> appreciate it
#1728 [16:19] <Chad> block pickup speed was also fast
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#1730 [16:22] * aetherian is away: hah. away message.
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#1731 [16:28] * xales is back
#1731 [16:29] * Kealper is back too
#1731 [16:29] <aetherian> ...I think he waited for me to say I was elaving
#1732 [16:29] <aetherian> *leaving
#1733 [16:29] <xales> yup
#1734 [16:29] <Kealper> lol
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#1736 [16:33] <NinjaKirby> ARGH, come on, I just. UNGNG
#1737 [16:33] <NinjaKirby> Basically sums up my situation here
#1738 [16:33] <Kealper> o.o
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#1740 [16:33] <Kealper> what are you trying to do? lol
#1741 [16:34] <NinjaKirby> Oh god, trying to replace a specific chunk, I think I'm right next to the one I'm after, need to go to the 5th Folder, not the 6th
#1742 [16:35] <Kealper> :/
#1743 [16:37] <NinjaKirby> Wow, my front garden is changing back and forth XD From 4 weeks ago, to now. I need the chunks like... next to it, I'm a number off
#1744 [16:40] <Kealper> ok...food has been consumed...time to restring my guitar
#1745 [16:40] <aetherian> jeez
#1746 [16:40] <aetherian> ssds are expensive
#1747 [16:41] <NinjaKirby> YES! I OWN, I did it!
#1748 [16:41] <aetherian> o.o
#1749 [16:41] <NinjaKirby> Right, I'm reviving my Thread with the answer, incase this happens to someone else
#1750 [16:41] <aetherian> you fail it
#1751 [16:42] <NinjaKirby> Nah way, I pwned it
#1752 [16:42] <NinjaKirby> Uh, wow, there is a glitch... it's like the data between chunks, seriously, there's floating Torches and a button
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#1756 [16:51] <mib_749k0p> how do i create a minecraft account free?
#1757 [16:51] <mib_749k0p> #minecrafthelp!
#1758 [16:51] <xales> http://minecraft.net/
#1759 [16:51] <mib_749k0p> yeh but it
#1760 [16:51] <mib_749k0p> wont let me make one
#1761 [16:51] <mib_749k0p> i can make one for free on it
#1762 [16:52] <mib_749k0p> ?
#1763 [16:52] <xales> yes
#1764 [16:52] <xales> http://www.minecraft.net/register.jsp
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#1766 [16:52] <mib_749k0p> it says error 500 null
#1767 [16:53] <xales> did you fill it out, then it gives you that?
#1768 [16:53] <mib_749k0p> yeh but when it says prove u are human nothing is there
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#1770 [16:54] <xales> are you using Internet Explorer?
#1771 [16:54] <mib_749k0p> no i have to ?
#1772 [16:54] <mib_749k0p> lol that would make sense
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#1774 [16:55] <xales> no
#1775 [16:55] <xales> you shouldn't use internet explorer
#1776 [16:55] <xales> what browser are you using?
#1777 [16:55] <mib_749k0p> firefox
#1778 [16:55] <xales> are you using the latest version?
#1779 [16:55] <mib_749k0p> yes
#1780 [16:56] <xales> ??> mib_749k0p hosts/win
#1781 [16:56] <VoxelHead> mib_749k0p: (hosts/win) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1782 [16:56] <VoxelHead> mib_749k0p: (hosts/win) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1783 [16:57] <xales> ?? pastebin
#1784 [16:57] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#1785 [16:57] <VoxelHead> pastebin: These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#1786 [16:57] <mib_749k0p> says i cant open host thing
#1787 [16:58] <mib_749k0p> one sec ill brb please stay here
#1788 [16:58] <xales> 'cant open'?
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#1790 [17:00] <Hippo77> I have a question about redstone
#1791 [17:00] <Hippo77> Can it be used to light regular torches, or only redstone torches
#1792 [17:01] <Hippo77> Does anyone know anything about redstone dust?
#1793 [17:02] <xales> only redstone
#1794 [17:02] <Hippo77> Is there anything I could use the same way as redstone dust to light torches? I want to lay it on the ground like wiring to light regular torches
#1795 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1796 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Regular torches and redstone have no interaction
#1797 [17:03] <Hippo77> okay, thanks
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#1799 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Yay death
#1800 [17:06] <Kealper> LOL
#1801 [17:06] <xales> hubsplit :o
#1802 [17:06] <Kealper> aubot must be in too many channels....the crappy old code in the bot module could not take the packetspam and crashed
#1803 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> haha
#1804 [17:06] <xales> lol
#1805 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#1806 [17:06] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.441 Seconds.
#1807 [17:06] <aetherian> o.o
#1808 [17:06] <aetherian> dayum
#1809 [17:06] <aetherian> !ping
#1810 [17:07] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.39 Seconds.
#1811 [17:07] <Kealper> i really have to get around to rewriting that some day :/
#1812 [17:07] <Kealper> anyways...strings are on...now for the tuning
#1813 [17:07] <aetherian> what heppened with aubot?
#1814 [17:07] <aetherian> *happened
#1815 [17:07] <Kealper> one of it's modules crashed because it got too many PARTs
#1816 [17:08] <Kealper> the one that is basically AuBot v1 that has been converted into a module for v2
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#1843 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Wheeeee
#1844 [17:08] <aetherian> lmao
#1845 [17:08] <fogWraith> Gonads and strife?
#1846 [17:08] <xales> oh dam
#1847 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Bah, what's that from?
#1848 [17:09] <xales> damn*
#1849 [17:09] <xales> 17:08:42 <@Deltafire> jsyk, we've just lost services
#1850 [17:09] <Kealper> -!- BananaBot [BananaBot@public-craft.com] has quit [Excess Flood]
#1851 [17:09] <xales> LOL
#1852 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> teehee
#1853 [17:09] <aetherian> so wait, what actually happened
#1854 [17:09] <Kealper> big netsplit
#1855 [17:09] <xales> 17:09:17 -!- NickServ [services@esper.net]
#1856 [17:09] <xales> 17:09:17 -!- was : Nickname Server
#1857 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> a leaf on esper's network went down
#1858 [17:09] <Chad> leaf
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#1860 [17:09] <aetherian> netsplit... that happened on another server I'm on very recently (today)
#1861 [17:10] <xales> s/server/network/
#1862 [17:10] <aetherian> oh whatever
#1863 [17:10] <Kealper> big difference between an irc network and an irc server :/
#1864 [17:10] <xales> ^
#1865 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> See, an IRC network consists of many hubs/servers. If one of them desyncs or disconnects from the rest, it can cause problems
#1866 [17:11] <aetherian> you inferred what I meant
#1867 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> They all depend on a constant and consistant connection between them all for communications
#1868 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> When you connect to irc.esper.net, well, you're not connecting to just one server.
#1869 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Oh boy, I'm babbling again.
#1870 [17:12] * GreyVulpine shuts up.
#1870 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Yay chanserv's back
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#1872 [17:13] <xales> and hates you
#1873 [17:13] <xales> :P
#1874 [17:13] <aetherian> oh aww
#1875 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> screw you too!
#1876 [17:13] * GreyVulpine kicks Chanserv
#1876 [17:13] <aetherian> I forgot to spam colors while it was gone D:
#1877 [17:14] <xales> +c is still in effect
#1878 [17:14] <aetherian> oh
#1879 [17:14] <xales> it's not even in the modelock
#1880 [17:14] <aetherian> that sucks
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#1882 [17:14] <aetherian> what do +n and +t do
#1883 [17:14] <aetherian> anyway
#1884 [17:15] <xales> n = no outside messages, t = only ops set topic
#1885 [17:15] <ConMan8> It's a default mode lock for esper
#1886 [17:15] <ConMan8> too
#1887 [17:15] <aetherian> so I should have changed the topic while it was gone?
#1888 [17:17] <xales> no
#1889 [17:17] <xales> channel modes are not related to services
#1890 [17:17] <xales> services can enforce/change them
#1891 [17:17] <xales> but they are not related
#1892 [17:19] <xales> when services disconnected, the +t was still set
#1893 [17:19] <Chad> linux terminal + zipping multiple world files = massive spewing of lines in a trippy wave formation
#1894 [17:19] <aetherian> that's annoying that one can't -t a chan if they wanted
#1895 [17:19] <Chad> it's awesome :o
#1896 [17:20] <aetherian> o.o
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#1898 [17:21] <Chad> yay now unziping
#1899 [17:22] <Chad> now terminal filled with moar spewing of lines in a neat wave pattern
#1900 [17:22] <aetherian> why did you want to zip them then o.o
#1901 [17:22] <Chad> twas fun
#1902 [17:22] <Chad> na was scping them over
#1903 [17:22] <Chad> from the vps to the dedicated
#1904 [17:22] <Chad> btw anyone want a vps with like 20 days left on it?
#1905 [17:22] <Kealper> slowly but surely....guitar is sounding better
#1906 [17:22] <Chad> 3 gigs of ram ect
#1907 [17:22] <Chad> I have no need for it
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#1909 [17:23] <Chad> it will be sitting there empty
#1910 [17:23] <Kealper> O.o
#1911 [17:23] <Chad> expires in 20 days totally useless to me now
#1912 [17:23] <Chad> 3 gigs 4 cores 320 gigs of space
#1913 [17:23] <Chad> anyone?
#1914 [17:24] <Kealper> i'm half tempted to take you up on that offer, but i've already got a dedicated server :/
#1915 [17:25] <Chad> oh god
#1916 [17:25] <Chad> fail
#1917 [17:26] <aetherian> haha
#1918 [17:26] <Chad> I scp'ed the zipped minecraft folder
#1919 [17:26] <Chad> to the dedicated
#1920 [17:26] <aetherian> epick faile
#1921 [17:26] <Chad> onto the ramdisk
#1922 [17:26] <Chad> 512 m
#1923 [17:26] <Chad> mb
#1924 [17:26] <Chad> I have not enough room to unzip it
#1925 [17:26] <Chad> the zipped file and the folder will not fit :(
#1926 [17:26] <Chad> now what!
#1927 [17:27] <xales> Chad, unzip it from the disk into the ramdisk
#1928 [17:27] <xales> Kealper, DopeGhoti and I will be working on https://github.com/xales/Wonton - it's got some skeleton stuff there, but it's in progress now :P
#1929 [17:27] <xales> will use Python for scripting, written in C++
#1930 [17:28] <xales> also, click 'select branch' -> dev
#1931 [17:28] <xales> because master doesn't have any recent stuff in it
#1932 [17:28] <Chad> facepalm
#1933 [17:28] <Chad> super easy solution
#1934 [17:28] <Chad> xales you really should not have needed to tell me that
#1935 [17:28] <xales> probably
#1936 [17:31] <aetherian> xales: what does it do
#1937 [17:31] <xales> aetherian: what do you mean?
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#1939 [17:32] <aetherian> uh
#1940 [17:32] <aetherian> I mean
#1941 [17:32] <aetherian> what is it going to do
#1942 [17:34] * GreyVulpine pokes xales
#1942 [17:34] <xales> ?
#1943 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> The other channel
#1944 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Do I have aop in that?
#1945 [17:34] <xales> which one?
#1946 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> bots
#1947 [17:34] <xales> oh, you have sop
#1948 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> kay, chanserv hates me and banned me
#1949 [17:35] <xales> are you identified?
#1950 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Oh bleh
#1951 [17:35] <xales> you probably need to re-identify
#1952 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, thanks
#1953 [17:35] <aetherian> guys
#1954 [17:35] <aetherian> you can do this in a query
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#1956 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Too lazy to
#1957 [17:36] <aetherian> /query xales
#1958 [17:36] <aetherian> copy paste that
#1959 [17:36] <xales> aetherian: who cares
#1960 [17:36] <aetherian> and you're good to go
#1961 [17:36] <xales> it's not like anyone else is using the channel
#1962 [17:36] <xales> least of all, you
#1963 [17:37] <aetherian> :O
#1964 [17:38] * ConMan8 plays some dramatic music
#1964 [17:39] <Chad> xales
#1965 [17:39] <xales> ?
#1966 [17:39] <Chad> how do I resize a tmpfs directory
#1967 [17:39] <Chad> made it 512
#1968 [17:40] <Chad> then released the unziped folder is to big
#1969 [17:40] <Chad> even when extracting it from the harddrive
#1970 [17:40] <Chad> :(
#1971 [17:40] <xales> I think you need to remount it
#1972 [17:40] <Chad> umm
#1973 [17:40] <Chad> O.o
#1974 [17:41] <[ssen]> So, everyone, recommend me an SMP server? Something you actually play on, mind you. I've had enough of joining servers that look great on paper but are full of trolls, douchebags, or greifers.
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#1976 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/servers
#1977 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> ?? servers
#1978 [17:42] <VoxelHead> servers: This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#1979 [17:42] <VoxelHead> servers: You can also ask in #SMP; there are often server admins there looking for new players.
#1980 [17:42] <[ssen]> >I've had enough of joining servers that look great on paper
#1981 [17:42] <Chad> hey no mistakes
#1982 [17:42] <[ssen]> >Something you actually play on,
#1983 [17:42] <Chad> Join mine :p
#1984 [17:42] <Chad> once it's back up
#1985 [17:42] <[ssen]> Sounds good.
#1986 [17:42] <Chad> we just moved to a dedicated
#1987 [17:43] <bacon> The server I play on is kind of exclusive, because the host doesn't have a truckload of internets to spare for randoms who come on and do nothing
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#1989 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Mr. Wells. Love your books.
#1990 [17:45] * orson_wells Tips glass in DopeGhoti's direction
#1990 [17:45] <Chad> woot my DNS finally updated
#1991 [17:46] <Chad> you can now connect to my server via truesurvival.net
#1992 [17:46] <aetherian> gotta go, kbai
#1993 [17:46] <Chad> weeee
#1994 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> Chad: ProTip WRT /dev/shm (rather than just using another tmpfs partition): you don't have to worry about resizing it; that's what the 'sh' in 'shm' is for.
#1995 [17:46] <xales> DopeGhoti: Can you checkout the dev branch and make sure that compiles?
#1996 [17:47] <xales> just hit it with the makestick
#1997 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> hold on, I need to add the cruft to pull down upstream branches
#1998 [17:48] <xales> k
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#2001 [17:52] <Gecko1986> I paid my boss to 'gift' me the game but he has yet to receive the gift codes, even though he ordered hours ago + the site states it should arrive in 1hour
#2002 [17:52] <Gecko1986> he paid by paypal and I'm rather sure its a verified account
#2003 [17:52] <Gecko1986> any ideas?
#2004 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> It can take some time for it to come through, might take a few hours.
#2005 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Have him look at his profile page
#2006 [17:54] <xales> Did he use a credit card via Paypal, or bank account transfer?
#2007 [17:54] <Gecko1986> I think CC
#2008 [17:55] <xales> check the profile page
#2009 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Have him log into minecraft.net, and look at his minecraft profile page.
#2010 [17:55] <xales> ^
#2011 [17:55] <Gecko1986> yeah mailed him that just now
#2012 [17:55] <Gecko1986> if he didnt go to bed yet ;p
#2013 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> If the purchase went through, it'll show up there
#2014 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> xales: dev compiles, outputs 'hello world'
#2015 [17:55] <xales> DopeGhoti: \o/
#2016 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> (I see no differences from master)
#2017 [17:57] <Gecko1986> how much traffic does a server consume?
#2018 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how many people are on it at once
#2019 [17:57] <Gecko1986> any guidelines? ie for lets say 10 ppl
#2020 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Total bandwidth per day/month, or max bandwidth for upstream/downstream?
#2021 [17:58] <xales> DopeGhoti: I merged them, but dev does have some (recent) changes
#2022 [17:59] <xales> I'm writing a config file class now ._.
#2023 [17:59] <Kealper> LOL.....after reading the description....nice name
#2024 [17:59] <Gecko1986> max bw
#2025 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: if you're talking about Wonton, that was all me.
#2026 [17:59] <Kealper> gg
#2027 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> my only contribution so far (:
#2028 [18:00] <Kealper> lol
#2029 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Say about .1gigs/player-hour
#2030 [18:01] <Gecko1986> ok thx
#2031 [18:01] <Gecko1986> I can play atm, a friend let me his acc while he's gone (wouldnt have bought it otherwise lol)
#2032 [18:01] <Gecko1986> and I must say : diamonds are RARE ;p
#2033 [18:02] <Gecko1986> could make 1 pickaxe so far
#2034 [18:02] <Gecko1986> and its 50% => really need a new one
#2035 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> Gecko1986: You'll be best served, if you're looking for Vitamin D, to be looking 8-12 blocks abobe the Admimium layer.
#2036 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> Save the diamond pick for important stuff like ores; I generally use stone picks because I always have more cobblestone than I know what to do with
#2037 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> I keep an iron one handy for when I see RS, gold, or diamond
#2038 [18:04] <Gecko1986> I usually use iron ones
#2039 [18:04] <Gecko1986> once hit the jackpot :P
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#2041 [18:04] <Gecko1986> well I digged for hours underground..
#2042 [18:04] <Gecko1986> I was lost!
#2043 [18:04] <Gecko1986> I then decided to just start digging up => ran in water
#2044 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> I have about 150 blocks of iron, but with all the rails I've been needing for my server's megaproject, I'm loathe to 'waste' them on picks
#2045 [18:04] <Gecko1986> but that was GOOD thing => was right at the shore where an entrance was of my base :D
#2046 [18:05] <Gecko1986> I can lay rails, but I dont get how to let minecarts 'go up'
#2047 [18:05] <Gecko1986> usually I just use them to 1) get down quickly 2) as a 'trail' to get back (walk..)
#2048 [18:07] <Kealper> boosters or powered minecarts make them go up
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#2050 [18:09] <Gecko1986> I tried the powered ones
#2051 [18:10] <Gecko1986> but one is too weak + I dont get it to push me (ie it pushes the wrong direction)
#2052 [18:10] <Kealper> it goes in the direction you are facing when you add the coal
#2053 [18:10] <Gecko1986> but how do I make it push me in that case, thats the issue :s
#2054 [18:10] <Gecko1986> ie if I'm out and point correct => bye bye cart :p
#2055 [18:10] <Gecko1986> if I'm in, it goes the wrongdirection
#2056 [18:11] <Kealper> the track can't be a straight line down
#2057 [18:11] <Kealper> or, if it is, there is a different way that uses the same concept as boosting
#2058 [18:12] <Kealper> where you have two tracks running parallel up the hill
#2059 [18:12] <Kealper> you sit in a cart on one track, the powered cart goes up just behind you on the other track, and it pushes you up
#2060 [18:12] <weirdo> hate to ask for more help, but can someone help me manage server backups? I'm not really sure where to start
#2061 [18:12] <Kealper> weirdo: os?
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#2063 [18:12] <weirdo> windows 7 64
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#2065 [18:13] <Kealper> what sort of backup did you want to do? just a mirrored world folder on a different drive or something? or a rar/zip archive of your world periodically?
#2066 [18:13] <weirdo> probably a archive every time I stop the server
#2067 [18:14] <Gecko1986> so http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Two-way_manual-reset_booster.png is enough to generate a boost?
#2068 [18:14] <Kealper> oh, so just an archive that you execute manually when you need to shut down the server?
#2069 [18:14] <weirdo> yep
#2070 [18:15] <Kealper> check out WinRAR, http://rarlabs.com it's quite fast with that stuff, especially if you set it to just store the data, and not compress it
#2071 [18:15] <weirdo> well yeah I have winrar, but how can I set up something to auto back up my server
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#2073 [18:16] <Kealper> WinRAR comes with a CLI version, just called rar.exe
#2074 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: WinRAR oh god why?
#2075 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> 7Zip ftw
#2076 [18:17] <Kealper> i don't use it to compress, just to store, and it stores very fast lol
#2077 [18:17] <weirdo> but how would I use it, like im not sure where my world is saved
#2078 [18:17] <Kealper> your world is saved into the world folder in the same folder that you run the serve from
#2079 [18:18] <Kealper> server from*
#2080 [18:18] <Gecko1986> w00t that worked :D
#2081 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: 7zip does tar (:
#2082 [18:18] <Gecko1986> I can now go all the way up by that simple booster :P
#2083 [18:18] <Kealper> dope i'm on windows, i don't need tars lol
#2084 [18:18] <weirdo> ok let me check
#2085 [18:19] <weirdo> where is the default directory
#2086 [18:19] <Kealper> .-.
#2087 [18:19] <Kealper> where ever you run your minecraft server executable from
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#2089 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: .tar is flat storage, you silly goose.
#2090 [18:21] <Kealper> hmmmmm.....
#2091 [18:21] <weirdo> kealper you mean minecraft_server? it's in my downloads folder but I dont see any files related to it besides serverproperties
#2092 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: that's why they're usually gzipped- to compress the archive (:
#2093 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> weirdo: you should also see world/
#2094 [18:22] <Kealper> weirdo: why did you just run it from your downloads folder -.-
#2095 [18:22] <weirdo> meh, why not?
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#2097 [18:22] <weirdo> it's a bit messy but I get around it
#2098 [18:23] <weirdo> and cool found the world folder, im assuming that is my server world
#2099 [18:23] * DopeGhoti feels a great disturbance in the Force, as though a million filesystem heirerarchy managers cried out, and were abruptly silenced.
#2099 [18:23] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: meh, i'll try it...the way i've got my rar set up, the files are not compressed at all, it's just storage like tar...but i guess i can run some test cases to see if 7z is faster at taring than rar is at raring O.o
#2100 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> (yes, the world folder is, surprisingly, the world)
#2101 [18:23] <weirdo> lol
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#2103 [18:24] <bodziec3> hi
#2104 [18:24] <Kealper> hi
#2105 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> good hellp
#2106 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> er, hello
#2107 [18:24] <bodziec3> i need help
#2108 [18:24] <bodziec3> pls pm
#2109 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#2110 [18:24] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2111 [18:24] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2112 [18:24] <bodziec3> i can chagne email?
#2113 [18:25] <bodziec3> in my acc minecraft
#2114 [18:25] <bodziec3> ?
#2115 [18:25] <Gecko1986> can you make a cart bounce of a wall?
#2116 [18:25] <weirdo> yeah dumb question, I never use winrar besides unzipping folders, I just right click and do add to archive correct?
#2117 [18:25] <Kealper> bodziec3: not that i am aware of
#2118 [18:25] <weirdo> and it will make an archived copy that I can unzip if my world goes kaput?
#2119 [18:25] <Kealper> weirdo: yes, but set the compression level to "Store"
#2120 [18:25] <Kealper> or it will take ages
#2121 [18:25] <bodziec3> i can change email?
#2122 [18:26] <Kealper> bodziec3: not that i am aware of
#2123 [18:26] <Kealper> (that means no)
#2124 [18:26] <weirdo> lol
#2125 [18:26] <weirdo> alright so just set options to store and the other options are good to go?
#2126 [18:26] <Kealper> glad to be of service to you!
#2127 [18:26] <Kealper> anywho
#2128 [18:26] <Kealper> yea weirdo
#2129 [18:27] <weirdo> alright, thanks again
#2130 [18:27] <weirdo> oh and about the nether, I cant find anything about getting nether blocks in my server
#2131 [18:28] <Gecko1986> anyone?
#2132 [18:28] <weirdo> I heard something about 2 servers one hosting nether
#2133 [18:28] <weirdo> how would I go about doing that on one computer
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#2135 [18:30] <weirdo> anyone?
#2136 [18:31] <Kealper> uhh
#2137 [18:31] <Kealper> carefully
#2138 [18:31] <weirdo> D:
#2139 [18:31] <Kealper> put one on a different port
#2140 [18:31] <Kealper> in two separate folders, one folder for each server
#2141 [18:32] * GreyVulpine sighs
#2141 [18:32] <weirdo> alright
#2142 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> It's a bukkit thing
#2143 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/misc-tp-fun-multiverse-v1-1-netherportals-to-multiple-worlds-320.3707/
#2144 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Check there
#2145 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Also #bukkit
#2146 [18:32] <weirdo> thanks, I couldnt find a guide to be honest
#2147 [18:32] * Kealper never looks at Bukkit-related stuff
#2147 [18:32] <weirdo> so this will transfer items between worlds as well right?
#2148 [18:33] <weirdo> like if I go and get blocks can I bring them between worlds
#2149 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea, sorry.
#2150 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Haven't kept up to day on bukkit in a while
#2151 [18:33] <weirdo> alright
#2152 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> day/date
#2153 [18:33] <weirdo> thanks for the link though
#2154 [18:33] <weirdo> ill check it out
#2155 [18:33] <weirdo> thanks again guys
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#2159 [18:35] <exp0> Lf stable windows 7 drivers
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#2163 [18:48] <NinjaKirby> Whilst a .bat file operates, is there a way to script an Event activated based upon the Time/Computer Clock?
#2164 [18:48] <NinjaKirby> Not after the code, just whether it's possible, I'll battle the rest.
#2165 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: I think what you're looking for is the Task Scheduler
#2166 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> which you can use to fire off a .bat file at certain times (compare cron)
#2167 [18:49] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, my brain is slowing down. I'll look into that XD Just I'd like to schedule a moment of disabled saving of the server, to hopefully allow a daily scheduled to go unhitched, without any file lockout.
#2168 [18:49] <NinjaKirby> Unless there is a simpler way, heh
#2169 [18:50] <NinjaKirby> *Scheduled Backup to go unhitched, derp
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#2171 [18:51] <Gecko1986> thx guys - made a fully automatic trac now (ie cart keeps going up / down :D)
#2172 [18:51] <Gecko1986> now I can jump in if I want :p
#2173 [18:51] <Gecko1986> just need to 'time' my jump out
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#2178 [19:12] <jwshields> I know this isn't the place to ask about mods, but how do i install one for the server?
#2179 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Ask in #bukkit
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#2182 [19:16] <NeverCast> Hey
#2183 [19:16] <NeverCast> kealper, you online?
#2184 [19:16] <NeverCast> fogWraith: you there
#2185 [19:17] <NeverCast> I guess not lawl
#2186 [19:17] <Kealper> rawr
#2187 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> I'll rar you...
#2188 [19:17] * GreyVulpine shakes fist
#2188 [19:17] * Kealper rawrs
#2188 [19:17] <Kealper> ^~,..,~^
#2189 [19:18] <NeverCast> kealper, Do you have the download link I sent out earlier for SCPLib client alpha?
#2190 [19:18] <Kealper> i could get it, it's in my logs
#2191 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Wow, really doesn't look like #bukkit's in a helping mood today.
#2192 [19:18] <Kealper> O.o
#2193 [19:19] <NeverCast> Thanks kealper
#2194 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> jwshields - Start with this: http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/misc-tp-fun-multiverse-v1-1-netherportals-to-multiple-worlds-320.3707/
#2195 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> er
#2196 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Wrong paste
#2197 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/faq-2-how-do-i-run-a-craftbukkit-server.462/
#2198 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> That's the one you need jwshields
#2199 [19:20] <jwshields> Will that start up the server for me? :o
#2200 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Read the thread
#2201 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> It'll explain everything
#2202 [19:20] <Kealper> NeverCast: oh, did you actually want the link or were you just asking if i had it?
#2203 [19:20] <NeverCast> I'd like the link
#2204 [19:20] <Kealper> oh, yeah 2 sec
#2205 [19:21] <Kealper> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1C9RXRND
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#2211 [19:28] <soforth> Hi all. Someone in the mood to chat about a problem I'm having?
#2212 [19:29] <keret> im new soo i probably couldnt help sry
#2213 [19:30] <soforth> salright! anybody else feel up to the challenge?
#2214 [19:30] <Kealper> rawr?
#2215 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#2216 [19:30] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2217 [19:30] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#2219 [19:31] <soforth> thanks DopeGhoti, just wanted to make sure that someone was around to hear.
#2220 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> soforth - We're always here
#2221 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> some of us seem to be awake (:
#2222 [19:32] <soforth> :) I've actually already been in once, but I'm kind of running out of hope and I wanted to run it by you all one more time.
#2223 [19:32] <Kealper> go on...lol
#2224 [19:32] <soforth> I've also emailed accounting and notch himself to ask for a refund after a lot of tinkering and no luck, and haven't heard back in a month...
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#2226 [19:33] <soforth> okay, so I run Minecraft, log in... and it quits
#2227 [19:33] <soforth> no error message
#2228 [19:33] <soforth> updated java, updated windows, virus scanner turned off
#2229 [19:33] <Kealper> what version of java do you have installed?
#2230 [19:33] <Kealper> oh
#2231 [19:33] <soforth> never has worked since I bought it
#2232 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean, "quits"?
#2233 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Shuts down instantly, shuts down with an OS error, shuts down with a java error...
#2234 [19:34] <soforth> just quits! closes. the process "javaw" also just ends, but no apparent errors.
#2235 [19:34] <soforth> I've run from command line as well, no errors there either.
#2236 [19:34] <soforth> and!
#2237 [19:35] <soforth> it won't run from the website in chrome, IE, or firefox.
#2238 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> I assume you're already purged %AppData%/.minecraft ?
#2239 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> s/assume/presume/
#2240 [19:35] <soforth> I think that was one of the things I did last time I came here, but I'm certainly willing to try again
#2241 [19:36] <soforth> Okay, I'm into the App Data/.minecraft folder. What was next?
#2242 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> delete bin
#2243 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> and if you have any texture packs, rename that directory to something else.
#2244 [19:37] <soforth> I don't have anything, because its never actually run
#2245 [19:37] <soforth> deleted bin
#2246 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> just being completionist :)
#2247 [19:37] <soforth> :) I appreciate it
#2248 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> okay, fire up the Minecraft.exe binary and cross your fingers
#2249 [19:38] <soforth> crossing finger... launching minecraft.exe
#2250 [19:38] <soforth> downloading packages
#2251 [19:38] <soforth> done loading and quit.
#2252 [19:39] <soforth> same result, unfortunately
#2253 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> humor me: what version (and bit depth) OS and Java have you installed?
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#2255 [19:40] <bacon> does it make an error log?
#2256 [19:40] <soforth> Windows XP (sp2) 32bit Java V 6 U 24
#2257 [19:40] <hrld> Hey guys! I would love these textures im minecraft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-MfrT0wvMg&feature=feedlik ! How can i do that?
#2258 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> soforth: do you have any other, older versions of Java installed showing themselves in the add/remove programs list?
#2259 [19:40] <soforth> bacon: no error window comes up and nothing in command line. is there another log I should check?
#2260 [19:41] <soforth> dopeghoti: i just uninstalled/reinstalled and I didn't see any but I'll check again
#2261 [19:41] <bacon> soforth: check the folder where minecraft.exe is
#2262 [19:42] <bacon> hrld: That looks like Doku's texture pack
#2263 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> ?? profile/win
#2264 [19:42] <VoxelHead> profile/win: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2265 [19:42] <hrld> thanks! is it possible for only me to see them like that, withouth having to do something with the server?
#2266 [19:42] <VoxelHead> profile/win: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2267 [19:42] <soforth> dopeghoti: no other java installs
#2268 [19:43] <soforth> Voxel: a new windows user? i actually tried it, believe it or not.
#2269 [19:43] <soforth> bacon: what would be the filename/folder for the error log?
#2270 [19:43] <hrld> bacon: thanks! is it possible for only me to see them like that, withouth having to do something with the server?
#2271 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> soforth: and the problem persists under a new Windows user?
#2272 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> What video card are you using, and how much RAM has your computer?
#2273 [19:44] <soforth> dopeghoti: yes, same result
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#2275 [19:44] <bacon> hrld: That's what it is, only you see your texture pack, nobody else does
#2276 [19:45] <hrld> ok, thanks :)
#2277 [19:45] <bacon> soforth: It should appear where you have your minecraft.exe that you're running from
#2278 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> soforth: What video card are you using, and how much RAM has your computer?
#2279 [19:47] <soforth> dopeghoti: this is my fathers old computer, so I wasn't aware, but apparently it only has 1 gig of ram. Also: the processor seems to be x64 after all. could be windows x64?
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#2281 [19:47] <keret> wow
#2282 [19:47] <Rad> hello, could anyone tell me why i get a "You Must Log In" error when trying to connect to my server
#2283 [19:47] <Rad> :P
#2284 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> soforth: Do you have 64- or 32-bit java installed?
#2285 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> Rad: you must log in.
#2286 [19:48] <Rad> lol i did, then i get that error on the server CMD
#2287 [19:48] <Rad> :P
#2288 [19:48] <soforth> Dope: I believe the java website directed me to the download... I hope you're right!
#2289 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> Rad: what is your minecraft username?
#2290 [19:48] <soforth> (that its 32-bit)
#2291 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> soforth: I hope so too; I'd love to hear "Now it works!" (:
#2292 [19:49] <Rad> dope: enisrad, and it also happends to my friend when they try to connect
#2293 [19:49] <bacon> Rad: You're using a beta client to connect to a classic server
#2294 [19:49] <bacon> !server
#2295 [19:49] <Rad> ahh
#2296 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> ?? needlogin
#2297 [19:49] <VoxelHead> needlogin: If you get the message "Kicking /IP: You need to log in!" when joining a server, you are attempting to join a Classic server.
#2298 [19:49] <VoxelHead> needlogin: If you are running the server, you downloaded the wrong software. The correct software is on the same page where you download the client.
#2299 [19:49] <Rad> thanks ill test that server files
#2300 [19:49] <Rad> thanks
#2301 [19:49] <Rad> :P
#2302 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> cheers
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#2304 [19:50] <bacon> AuBot is better DopeGhoti! You know it is!
#2305 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> bacon: you will notice I have not duplicated AuBot's !client and !server (yet).
#2306 [19:50] <soforth> dopeghoti: i don't see a download for 64-bit windows, but it mentions a java plug-in for 64-bit Internet Explorer
#2307 [19:51] <soforth> http://java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
#2308 [19:52] <soforth> totally just understood that I answered to a bot earlier. :)
#2309 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> soforth: (:
#2310 [19:53] <soforth> Dope: I'm going to try updating IE, since java seems to be so concerned with what version I have
#2311 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> worth a try
#2312 [19:55] <soforth> apparently this computer has 6.0, bane of the web
#2313 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> Fun times.
#2314 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> How up-to-date is Windows itself (e. g. SP3, all updates?)
#2315 [19:56] <soforth> yes, SP3 fully updated besides IE.
#2316 [19:57] <soforth> i will have very mixed feelings if somehow updating IE makes minecraft work :?
#2317 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> I know the feeling
#2318 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> on the other hand, my next idea was a hardware check by way of testing a Linux liveCD
#2319 [19:58] <soforth> I think I may have one with a netbook version of ubuntu somewheres...
#2320 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> Any version would do; they all come with openJDK which runs Minecraft just fine (for me).
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#2322 [20:04] <soforth> Dope: resetting. if i'm not back in 10, send someone in after me.
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#2324 [20:06] <PlayerQQ> Hey guys, I've been having an issue all day uploading a skin onto minecraft.net Anybody else getting this issue?
#2325 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> What issue?
#2326 [20:06] <bacon> The viewer doesn't work
#2327 [20:06] <bacon> Check if it works in-game
#2328 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Uploading a skin via the profile page on minecraft.net does work
#2329 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Check in-game
#2330 [20:07] <PlayerQQ> alright, thanks
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#2340 [20:21] <Puddles> Hello
#2341 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#2342 [20:22] <xales> >.>
#2343 [20:22] <Cake> <.<
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#2346 [20:29] <aetherian> back
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#2348 [20:30] <theShadow> hi
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#2350 [20:32] <TheNytangel> hey
#2351 [20:33] <theShadow> I am attempting to install a texture mod
#2352 [20:33] <theShadow> the LB photorealism pack
#2353 [20:33] <soforth> DopeGhoti: you still here?
#2354 [20:33] <theShadow> and I followed the instructions, and the patching went fine
#2355 [20:33] <theShadow> but nothing happened
#2356 [20:33] <theShadow> when I launch the game it still has the old textures
#2357 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> We don't really support HD texture packs here, did you follow the instructions right?
#2358 [20:34] <TheNytangel> i have never put in a texture
#2359 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Installed and used the HD texture fix correctly?
#2360 [20:34] <Cake> And, you know, turned on the texture pack?
#2361 [20:34] <aetherian> heh
#2362 [20:35] <theShadow> I downloaded the mac version from the topic
#2363 [20:35] <theShadow> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=46173
#2364 [20:35] <theShadow> here
#2365 [20:35] <theShadow> and followed the instructions
#2366 [20:35] <theShadow> would you like me to pastebin the output?
#2367 [20:35] <aetherian> did you insert the pack directly into the minecraft.jar bin?
#2368 [20:35] <theShadow> how do I do that?
#2369 [20:35] <aetherian> or did you put it into the texture pack folder
#2370 [20:35] <theShadow> oh right
#2371 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to do that aetherian.
#2372 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> The HD texture fix can load the texture pack itself
#2373 [20:36] <aetherian> grey: oh...
#2374 [20:36] <theShadow> first question
#2375 [20:36] <theShadow> where it says output
#2376 [20:36] <theShadow> where should I save that?
#2377 [20:36] <theShadow> in the bin folder, or somewhere else?
#2378 [20:36] <aetherian> you know
#2379 [20:36] <aetherian> what's wrong with 16 bit texture packs
#2380 [20:36] <aetherian> I think more people should use them
#2381 [20:36] <soforth> Hi. Any tips on how to get Notch or anyone to respond to my emails for a refund (won't run on my system after repeated troubleshooting).
#2382 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> soforth - daniel@mojang.com
#2383 [20:37] <aetherian> and so on
#2384 [20:37] <theShadow> and don't be pissy about it
#2385 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> theShadow - It should point to the mac minecraft.jar file
#2386 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> ~/library/application support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#2387 [20:38] <theShadow> yeah
#2388 [20:38] <theShadow> thats the input
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#2390 [20:38] <theShadow> but for the output it asks where to save it
#2391 [20:38] <theShadow> should I save the file as minecraft.jar?
#2392 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. input?
#2393 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> That should be the output
#2394 [20:38] <theShadow> er, original
#2395 [20:38] <theShadow> original and output
#2396 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Okay
#2397 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> And did you select the texture pack in the third row?
#2398 [20:38] <theShadow> yes
#2399 [20:39] <aetherian> hmm, I should make a 4 bit texture pack
#2400 [20:39] <theShadow> and set it to 256
#2401 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Which pack is it?
#2402 [20:39] <soforth> GreyVulpine: thanks, I'll try it.
#2403 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> theShadow - ?
#2404 [20:43] <theShadow> the 256 one
#2405 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> There's more than one 256 one
#2406 [20:43] <theShadow> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=136785
#2407 [20:43] <theShadow> sorry, i said which pack it was earlier
#2408 [20:44] * DopeGhoti looks up- someone ping me?
#2408 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> ah, soforth! any luck?
#2409 [20:44] <soforth> hey DG
#2410 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> theShadow - Looks like the creator couldn't get the pack working with the HD texture fix, had to manually put in the files himself
#2411 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> theShadow - If you open up the minecraft.jar file in /library/application support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#2412 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> You can copy/paste the files in yourself
#2413 [20:45] <soforth> no luck. :( emailing daniel@majong hoping to get that refund...
#2414 [20:46] <theShadow> and I do this by changing the file name to zip?
#2415 [20:46] <soforth> I really don't want to have to liveCD or format or anything like that (especially since I have no idea where my windows CD is...). Thank you so much for your help though.
#2416 [20:46] <theShadow> soforth: give it time
#2417 [20:46] <theShadow> hes not going to reply immidiately
#2418 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> theShadow - If you open it up using an archive program of your choice, it should work
#2419 [20:46] <theShadow> ah]
#2420 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> I know winrar and 7-zip work fine in opening minecraf.jar
#2421 [20:47] <theShadow> ok
#2422 [20:47] <soforth> Shadow: its been two weeks
#2423 [20:47] <theShadow> ah
#2424 [20:48] <theShadow> i thought you had sent an email just then
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#2427 [20:48] <soforth> i sent a new one to daniel@majong, set one to payment and notch two weeks ago
#2428 [20:48] <soforth> sorry, didn't know which you were talking about
#2429 [20:48] <theShadow> btw if I open up the .zip for the texture pack and drag it into the file, will it replace the correct things?
#2430 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how the author set the zip up
#2431 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> But if he did it right, yes
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#2433 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: that's because .jar files are .zip files, but you probably knew that.
#2434 [20:49] * GreyVulpine nods
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#2435 [20:50] <soforth> Thanks anyway guy, see ya!
#2436 [20:50] <soforth> *guys
#2437 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
#2438 [20:52] <theShadow> ok
#2439 [20:52] <theShadow> I got it
#2440 [20:52] <theShadow> but it crashed
#2441 [20:52] <theShadow> oh wait
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#2443 [20:52] <theShadow> now that the files are there, should I run the texture fix again?
#2444 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> No
#2445 [20:53] <TheNytangel> is anyone here a nerd..?
#2446 [20:54] <theShadow> nope
#2447 [20:54] <theShadow> no nerds here
#2448 [20:54] <theShadow> :p
#2449 [20:55] <theShadow> http://pastie.org/1568949
#2450 [20:55] <theShadow> there's the error report
#2451 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> ??> TheNytangel ask
#2452 [20:58] <VoxelHead> TheNytangel: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2453 [20:59] <VoxelHead> TheNytangel: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2454 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> theShadow - Then the texture pack wasn't installed correctly
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#2456 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Try deleting the /minecraft/bin folder, relaunch minecraft so you get fresh files
#2457 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> and try again
#2458 [21:00] <smellme2> hello
#2459 [21:00] <TheNytangel> it isnt a question about minecraft
#2460 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Please, just ask the question
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#2462 [21:01] <smellme2> could anyone help me install craftbukkit; I need it for plugins apparently
#2463 [21:02] <DopeGhoti> ??> smellme2 mods
#2464 [21:02] <VoxelHead> smellme2: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2465 [21:02] <VoxelHead> smellme2: (mods) For assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2466 [21:02] <smellme2> I feel shunned
#2467 [21:02] <smellme2> but seriously my bad, thanks for the link
#2468 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/faq-2-how-do-i-run-a-craftbukkit-server.462/
#2469 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Instructions are there, shouldn't be hard
#2470 [21:02] <smellme2> alrighty, thanks
#2471 [21:03] <theShadow> eh I give up for now
#2472 [21:04] <theShadow> honestly, rather than higher res, I would like more advanced rendering
#2473 [21:04] <theShadow> maybe I should try the GLSL mod lol
#2474 [21:05] <theShadow> is anyone here familiar with the reddit maps?
#2475 [21:06] <theShadow> with the crazy floating islands and stuff?
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#2477 [21:07] <TheNytangel> ok GreyVulpine
#2478 [21:07] <TheNytangel> do you know how to use Saitek SST software?
#2479 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Can't say I do, haven't used a joystick since I was little
#2480 [21:08] <TheNytangel> i dont have a joystick.. i have a yoke, 2 throttle quadrants, a radio panel, a switch panel, a multi panel, and an instrument panel
#2481 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> This.. really isn't the channel for that type of question
#2482 [21:09] <TheNytangel> you said to ask
#2483 [21:09] <TheNytangel> i said it wasnt about minecraft
#2484 [21:09] <TheNytangel> <GreyVulpine> Please, just ask the question
#2485 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't mean we'll have the answer for you.
#2486 [21:10] <TheNytangel> ...
#2487 [21:11] * Cake maintains the regular inanimate-object happyface
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#2488 [21:16] <TheNytangel> oof.. that felt like a wet one
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#2493 [21:40] <charliebeta> Hi, I get an error when I start minecraft in linux. It loads the menu fine, but when I start a new game, it get the following error...
#2494 [21:40] <charliebeta> http://pastebin.com/Mzq5z8Mc
#2495 [21:41] <xales> you need to use the Sun JVM
#2496 [21:41] <xales> not IcedTea
#2497 [21:42] <charliebeta> where can I get the Sun JVM
#2498 [21:42] <xales> you need to install it from the package manager
#2499 [21:42] <charliebeta> is it in the package manager or a stand alone download?
#2500 [21:42] <xales> it's in the manager
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#2502 [21:45] <xales> sun-java6-jre
#2503 [21:45] <RobDez> trying to make a redstone circuit that only allows one pressure plate on each side of a door to work at a time
#2504 [21:45] <RobDez> can this be done ?
#2505 [21:46] <xales> RobDez: No - the pressure plates will still 'work' but they just wouldn't open the door
#2506 [21:46] <charliebeta> ok, Im installing now
#2507 [21:46] <xales> also, they couldn't be adjacent to the door
#2508 [21:46] <xales> you would use an AND gate
#2509 [21:46] <RobDez> but i can make it so its one way on each side ?
#2510 [21:47] <xales> what do you mean?
#2511 [21:47] <RobDez> so mobs can't use it after i enter
#2512 [21:47] <RobDez> until i use the inside one to get out
#2513 [21:47] <xales> not easily
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#2515 [21:47] <xales> you couldn't use a pressure plate for that though
#2516 [21:47] <xales> or, at least, not one that's next to the door
#2517 [21:48] <RobDez> like a flip flop kind of thing. pressure plate one deactivates after use until plate two is used
#2518 [21:49] <xales> you could use a RS NOR latch, but again
#2519 [21:49] <xales> if the plate is next to the door, there is no way for it to not open the door
#2520 [21:50] <RobDez> ok two blocks away so the plate itself can't open for either side. but the prob i see is i'd run over the inside plate coming in
#2521 [21:51] <Chad> xales how do I amount a directory mounted to ramdisk
#2522 [21:51] <xales> RobDez: It wouldn't be easy, you would have to use an XOR and RS NOR latch
#2523 [21:51] <xales> ask Kealper about it
#2524 [21:51] <xales> Chad: amount?
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#2526 [21:52] <DopeGhoti> RobDez: sounds like you need a NAND gate.
#2527 [21:53] <RobDez> i can figure out the flip flop but not how to get it to not reset when i come in and run over the plate. it would reset again
#2528 [21:54] <DopeGhoti> RobDez: wait, are you looking for a toggle, or are you looking simply for only-one-works-at-a-time?
#2529 [21:54] <RobDez> one way for each side of a door. using pressure plates
#2530 [21:55] <DopeGhoti> so you only want, say, the right-hand side door to open when you step on a pressure plate on either side of a door?
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#2532 [21:55] <Checkzor> hmm
#2533 [21:55] <RobDez> as i come in with a mob chasing the pressure plate one works once. until i use the inside plate to get out
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#2535 [21:55] <DopeGhoti> ah
#2536 [21:56] <Checkzor> I need linux guru
#2537 [21:56] <Checkzor> :(
#2538 [21:56] <DopeGhoti> ??> Checkzor ask
#2539 [21:56] <VoxelHead> Checkzor: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2540 [21:56] <VoxelHead> Checkzor: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2541 [21:56] <Checkzor> I mounted my 512mb folder onto ramdisk, only to realize it was to small
#2542 [21:56] <aetherian> he did ask
#2543 [21:56] <aetherian> he asked, "where might I find a linux guru"
#2544 [21:56] <Checkzor> He enjoys his bot
#2545 [21:57] <Checkzor> leave him be :P
#2546 [21:57] <aetherian> they do
#2547 [21:57] <aetherian> they really do
#2548 [21:57] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: don't use quotation marks if you're not quoting directly.
#2549 [21:57] <RobDez> might be better to use a lever to toggle the circuit back on from the inside i think
#2550 [21:57] <Checkzor> did you fix the spelling errors in the bot yet?
#2551 [21:57] <DopeGhoti> Checkzor: copy it to /dev/shm and enjoy dynamically-sized RAM drives.
#2552 [21:57] <aetherian> dopeghoti: fine, I'll use different ways to mark it >:
#2553 [21:57] <DopeGhoti> Checkzor: I just got home from work; I'm not Clark Kent. :p
#2554 [21:57] <Checkzor> lmao
#2555 [21:58] <aetherian> yeah, he's not a news reporter
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#2557 [21:59] <aetherian> besides
#2558 [21:59] <Iguana> Good evenin', #minecrafthelp
#2559 [21:59] <aetherian> if he was
#2560 [21:59] <aetherian> he wouldn't say so
#2561 [21:59] <aeonx> Can i have help setting up a server quickly ?
#2562 [21:59] <DopeGhoti> good hello, Iguana
#2563 [21:59] <Iguana> Is anyone in need of help
#2564 [21:59] <aetherian> aeon: what with
#2565 [21:59] <Checkzor> so I just copy my minecraft folder to /dev/shm thats it?
#2566 [21:59] <aeonx> I downloaded the lastest
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#2568 [21:59] <geegeegee> How much RAM would i need for 25 slots?
#2569 [22:00] <aeonx> Forwarded my port
#2570 [22:00] <SkiingPenguins> quite a bit, geegeegee
#2571 [22:00] <aeonx> We can't join
#2572 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> geegeegee - Nothing less than 3-4 gigs
#2573 [22:00] <aetherian> aeonx: what did you do with server.properties (or whatever)
#2574 [22:00] <DopeGhoti> Checkzor: indeed; just be sure to copy it back out before shutting down the server; that is a RAM disk after all
#2575 [22:00] <geegeegee> is there a way to limit the map size so it needs less? Im looking for a VPS to run a MC serve ron
#2576 [22:00] <aeonx> I left them defaults
#2577 [22:00] <aeonx> they are ok
#2578 [22:00] <aetherian> mmk\
#2579 [22:00] <aetherian> *mmk
#2580 [22:00] <aeonx> do i have to add my ip in it ?
#2581 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> geegeegee - With a mod, yes
#2582 [22:00] <aetherian> no, aeon
#2583 [22:00] <aetherian> I was checking that you didn't do that
#2584 [22:00] <Checkzor> I got a spare 3 gig vps?
#2585 [22:01] <Checkzor> good for 20 days
#2586 [22:01] <Checkzor> nothing on it
#2587 [22:01] <DopeGhoti> Checkzor: better would be to copy just the world into shm and symlink it to be lcoal to the minecraft server
#2588 [22:01] <aetherian> aeonx, is it running?
#2589 [22:01] <Checkzor> anyone need a vps?
#2590 [22:01] <aeonx> let me open it
#2591 [22:01] <geegeegee> Checkzor, what provider?
#2592 [22:01] <Checkzor> hostladder
#2593 [22:01] <aeonx> Setting up
#2594 [22:01] <aeonx> loading level
#2595 [22:01] <smellme2> so I went to #bukkit, but the guy helping me left and no one else can help, can anyone help me with bukkitcraft really fast, its a simple newby question
#2596 [22:01] <aeonx> NOw accepting input on 25565
#2597 [22:02] <aeonx> Level loaded
#2598 [22:02] <aetherian> aeonx: if it has loaded, restart it.
#2599 [22:02] <aetherian> just for kicks.
#2600 [22:02] <aeonx> i did
#2601 [22:02] <aeonx> like 9234 times
#2602 [22:02] <aeonx> :P
#2603 [22:02] <aetherian> :P
#2604 [22:02] <aetherian> you know what they say
#2605 [22:02] <aeonx> stuck on connecting
#2606 [22:02] <aetherian> it's always the 9235th time
#2607 [22:02] <aetherian> do you have any firewalls that may be blocking anything?
#2608 [22:02] <smellme2> so can anybody assist with bukkitcraft quick?
#2609 [22:02] <aeonx> Connection Timed out
#2610 [22:03] <aetherian> #bukkit , I think
#2611 [22:03] <aetherian> oh
#2612 [22:03] <SkiingPenguins> ...
#2613 [22:03] <aetherian> you went there
#2614 [22:03] <aetherian> my bad
#2615 [22:03] <smellme2> yeah :C
#2616 [22:03] <smellme2> its a quick newby question though nothing in depth
#2617 [22:03] <smellme2> just trying to set up the server
#2618 [22:04] <xales> aetherian: did you port forward?
#2619 [22:04] <xales> err
#2620 [22:04] <aetherian> wha
#2621 [22:04] <xales> aeonx:
#2622 [22:04] <aetherian> yes I did
#2623 [22:04] <aetherian> actually
#2624 [22:04] <xales> aeonx: did you port forward?
#2625 [22:04] <smellme2> aeth can you help?
#2626 [22:04] <aetherian> xales: he said he did
#2627 [22:05] <aetherian> smellme2: I only deal with vanilla
#2628 [22:05] <xales> smellme2: if you have a Bukkit-related question, #bukkit is the place to ask, not here
#2629 [22:05] <DopeGhoti> (since you asked, Checkzor, the typos should all be fixed now, yes.)
#2630 [22:05] <smellme2> ok
#2631 [22:06] <aetherian> dope: that's bery nice
#2632 [22:06] <aetherian> it's good to have good spelling, specifigally in that kind of thing
#2633 [22:07] <DopeGhoti> jes, eet iz.
#2634 [22:07] <aeonx> i did forwarded
#2635 [22:07] <aeonx> Success: I can see your service on xx.xxx.xxx.xx on port (25565) Your ISP is not blocking port 25565
#2636 [22:07] <xales> aeonx: how are you connecting to the server? what IP are you using?
#2637 [22:07] <HERM3S> hey guys
#2638 [22:07] <aeonx> my modem
#2639 [22:07] <aeonx> on
#2640 [22:07] <aeonx> one *
#2641 [22:07] <aetherian> you don't have any weird antivir, right
#2642 [22:08] <aeonx> No
#2643 [22:08] <HERM3S> when i load a plugin like magic carpet
#2644 [22:08] <aeonx> Anti-virus installet
#2645 [22:08] <aeonx> I don't have an anti-virus *
#2646 [22:08] <HERM3S> how do i allow other users to use that command
#2647 [22:08] <aetherian> and you're giving the right external ip, right
#2648 [22:08] <xales> ??> HERM3S mods
#2649 [22:08] <VoxelHead> HERM3S: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2650 [22:08] <aeonx> it's useless ;P
#2651 [22:08] <VoxelHead> HERM3S: (mods) For assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2652 [22:08] <aeonx> yes
#2653 [22:08] <HERM3S> doh
#2654 [22:08] <xales> aeonx: what IP are you using?
#2655 [22:08] <aeonx> You sure you don'T wanna log on teamviewer ?
#2656 [22:08] <aeonx> xales my modem one
#2657 [22:08] <aetherian> ...
#2658 [22:08] <xales> aeonx: can you connect using 'localhost'?
#2659 [22:08] <aeonx> 127.0.0.1 ?
#2660 [22:08] <xales> or localhost
#2661 [22:08] <xales> both work
#2662 [22:09] <aeonx> let me try
#2663 [22:09] * aetherian hums
#2663 [22:09] <aeonx> it says
#2664 [22:09] <aeonx> Kicking
#2665 [22:09] <aeonx> you need to log in
#2666 [22:10] <aeonx> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 11-02-1
#2667 [22:10] <aetherian> o.o
#2668 [22:10] <aetherian> ow!
#2669 [22:10] <aeonx> va.lang.NullPointerException at jg.a(SourceFile:440) at jg.a(SourceFile:217) at oy.a(SourceFile:123) at kx.a(SourceFile:232) at jg.a(SourceFile:101) at qc.g(SourceFile:43) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.i(SourceFile:1107) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:642)
#2670 [22:10] <aetherian> pastebin plox
#2671 [22:10] <aeonx> ok
#2672 [22:10] <xales> don't paste in here
#2673 [22:10] <aeonx> 2 sec
#2674 [22:10] <xales> anyway
#2675 [22:10] <xales> the problem is
#2676 [22:10] <xales> you are using the wrong server
#2677 [22:10] <aetherian> ^^I was going to say that
#2678 [22:10] <aeonx> http://pastebin.com/3MDvXjeG
#2679 [22:10] <xales> ?? needlogin
#2680 [22:10] <VoxelHead> needlogin: If you get the message "Kicking /IP: You need to log in!" when joining a server, you are attempting to join a Classic server.
#2681 [22:10] <VoxelHead> needlogin: If you are running the server, you downloaded the wrong software. The correct software is on the same page where you download the client.
#2682 [22:10] <geegeegee> My server is telling me "bad login" Why is it doing it?
#2683 [22:11] <xales> geegeegee: what's your username?
#2684 [22:11] <aeonx> I downloaded the one on minecraft.com/server
#2685 [22:11] <geegeegee> coopzinator
#2686 [22:11] <xales> aeonx: wrong one then
#2687 [22:11] <aetherian> !server
#2688 [22:11] <xales> geegeegee: are you using 'play offline' in the client?
#2689 [22:11] <aetherian> ^use this one
#2690 [22:11] <geegeegee> xales, i can log into minecrat client, just not onto my server
#2691 [22:12] <aeonx> xales
#2692 [22:12] <aeonx> I downloaded the alstest
#2693 [22:12] <aeonx> lastest*
#2694 [22:12] <aeonx> Like 10 min ago
#2695 [22:12] <xales> You downloaded the software for Classic
#2696 [22:12] <aetherian> the latest what, is the question
#2697 [22:12] <xales> the Beta software is completely different
#2698 [22:12] <aetherian> follow aubot's links
#2699 [22:12] <aeonx> bbrb
#2700 [22:12] <xales> geegeegee: can you log in to the server with IP 'smp.shadow-craft.net'?
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#2702 [22:13] <geegeegee> xales, yeah that works fine, ill try rebooting i
#2703 [22:13] <geegeegee> t
#2704 [22:13] <aeonx> it says
#2705 [22:13] <aeonx> failed to bind port
#2706 [22:14] <aeonx> e exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind
#2707 [22:14] <xales> aeonx: did you close the other server?
#2708 [22:14] <aeonx> yes
#2709 [22:14] <xales> did you change the server.properties at all?
#2710 [22:14] <aeonx> i only added my ip
#2711 [22:14] <xales> that's why
#2712 [22:14] <xales> you can't add it in there
#2713 [22:14] <aeonx> where do i add it ?
#2714 [22:14] <xales> just leave the server-ip line as
#2715 [22:14] <xales> server-ip=
#2716 [22:14] <xales> you don't put it anywhere
#2717 [22:14] <xales> that's not how it works
#2718 [22:14] <aetherian> I said that already >.>
#2719 [22:14] <aetherian> brb
#2720 [22:15] <aeonx> let me try
#2721 [22:15] <aeonx> one last time
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#2724 [22:16] <aeonx> i can log as
#2725 [22:16] <aeonx> localhost
#2726 [22:16] <aeonx> not with my ip
#2727 [22:16] <xales> what happens when you use your IP?
#2728 [22:16] <Checkzor> omg help
#2729 [22:16] <Checkzor> :(
#2730 [22:16] <aeonx> timed out
#2731 [22:16] <xales> ??> Checkzor ask
#2732 [22:16] <Checkzor> I put it in /dev/shm
#2733 [22:16] <VoxelHead> Checkzor: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2734 [22:16] <VoxelHead> Checkzor: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2735 [22:16] <Checkzor> it won't download terrain
#2736 [22:16] <xales> aeonx: you port-forwarded incorrectly then
#2737 [22:16] <Checkzor> it connects to the server
#2738 [22:16] * xales pokes DopeGhoti
#2738 [22:16] <aeonx> pretty sure i did correctly
#2739 [22:17] <xales> aeonx: nope
#2740 [22:17] <aeonx> got teamviewer ?
#2741 [22:17] <xales> if you get 'timed out', you did it wrong
#2742 [22:17] <xales> unfortunately, not on this computer
#2743 [22:17] <xales> it can barely run Flash games
#2744 [22:17] <aeonx> my friend
#2745 [22:17] <aeonx> can log in
#2746 [22:17] <xales> aeonx: you might just need to use your local IP then, and others use the external
#2747 [22:17] <aeonx> nvm
#2748 [22:18] <aeonx> yup
#2749 [22:18] <aeonx> realised that
#2750 [22:18] <aeonx> thx you
#2751 [22:18] <aeonx> <3
#2752 [22:18] <aeonx> Now i need to fix my english
#2753 [22:19] <aetherian> back
#2754 [22:19] <fisken> hey i have a problem connecting to my server that's on my lan. OS = linux
#2755 [22:19] <aeonx> thank you guys :D
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#2757 [22:19] <xales> ??> fisken ask
#2758 [22:19] <VoxelHead> fisken: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2759 [22:19] <VoxelHead> fisken: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2760 [22:20] <aetherian> xales: you like that command too much
#2761 [22:20] <xales> aetherian: that's what its for
#2762 [22:20] <xales> :P
#2763 [22:20] <aetherian> @_@
#2764 [22:20] <fisken> well i don't know really what to ask, i just don't know what the problem is. i just started not being able to connect out of nowhere
#2765 [22:20] <fisken> i can connect to it on the computer that is hosting the server, but not on the other computer on the lan
#2766 [22:20] <xales> define "not able to connect"
#2767 [22:21] <xales> what IP are you using, and what error do you get
#2768 [22:21] <fisken> it say "connecting to server" for a long time untill it quits
#2769 [22:21] <xales> what IP are you using
#2770 [22:21] <fisken> my private ip
#2771 [22:21] <xales> which is?
#2772 [22:21] <fisken> which has worked before
#2773 [22:21] <fisken> uh, 192.168.0.198
#2774 [22:21] <xales> are you sure it's the same?
#2775 [22:22] <fisken> yea, i succefully log into it on the computer hosting the server
#2776 [22:23] <geegeegee> fisken, check network settings, try ssh or something else running on it
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#2778 [22:23] <xales> what is the IP of the computer you are connecting from?
#2779 [22:23] <fisken> well i can ssh into the computer right now
#2780 [22:23] <DopeGhoti> xales: yes?
#2781 [22:23] <xales> DopeGhoti: Checkzor's problem
#2782 [22:23] <xales> chunks not loading when the server is running from shm
#2783 [22:23] <DopeGhoti> interesting.
#2784 [22:23] <fisken> xales: 192.168.0.108
#2785 [22:24] * DopeGhoti runs his from shm with no problems
#2785 [22:24] <xales> fisken: do you see anything in the server's console?
#2786 [22:24] <DopeGhoti> Checkzor: no errors on server console?
#2787 [22:24] <fisken> no, nothing changes when i try to connect
#2788 [22:25] <jackknrsh7> hello. anybody here who can help me out? when i join my smp server, i am permanently falling into the abyss. i can only spawn right if i delete my player data every time... I don't take damage, cant use chat. The server seems to crash too, as putting server commands into the CMD does nothing.
#2789 [22:25] <xales> jackknrsh7: what are the specs of the system you are hosting it on?
#2790 [22:26] <jackknrsh7> 2.3ghz dual core 4gbddr2
#2791 [22:26] <Checkzor> It's alive MUAHAHAHAHA
#2792 [22:26] <Checkzor> running on ramdisk
#2793 [22:26] <DopeGhoti> jackknrsh7: are you running any security or firewiall software, like ZoneAlarm?
#2794 [22:26] <DopeGhoti> Checkzor: yay!
#2795 [22:26] <jackknrsh7> shut down zonealarm. avg is on cause i cant figure out how to turn it off
#2796 [22:26] <xales> is it your own computer?
#2797 [22:26] <jackknrsh7> yes
#2798 [22:26] <DopeGhoti> jackknrsh7: is it shut down or completely gone?
#2799 [22:26] <DopeGhoti> ?? zonealarm
#2800 [22:26] <VoxelHead> zonealarm: Don't use ZoneAlarm. It'd bloated, resource-heavy software that does more harm than good, and in fact is known to cause problems with Minecraft specifically, such as connecting to servers and falling endlessly through the void, or even crashing servers entirely.
#2801 [22:26] <VoxelHead> zonealarm: Official report thread about ZA-induce server crashes is here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_crashes_in_multiplayer_socketexception_if_firewa
#2802 [22:27] <jackknrsh7> everything is on this local machine. i stopped it. should i uninstall it completely?
#2803 [22:27] <DopeGhoti> yes.
#2804 [22:27] <aetherian> it'd bloated?
#2805 [22:27] <jackknrsh7> ok, will that fix it you think?
#2806 [22:27] <DopeGhoti> even "stopped" it still has a toe in.
#2807 [22:27] <xales> DopeGhoti: have you looked at the code for Wonton at all?
#2808 [22:27] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: yeah yeah, I fixed it.
#2809 [22:27] <aetherian> haha
#2810 [22:27] <fisken> xales: do you have any idea what could be wrong?
#2811 [22:27] <relsqui> monsters will only spawn in the dark *on a surface*, right? so if I have a room with a dark ceiling things won't spawn in it?
#2812 [22:27] <DopeGhoti> xales: not the latest build
#2813 [22:27] <relsqui> (because the floor is lit)
#2814 [22:27] * aetherian is the grammar... peasant
#2814 [22:28] <xales> DopeGhoti: check main at least, in the latest
#2815 [22:28] <xales> I haven't changed much except the config class
#2816 [22:28] <xales> and that's fairly massive
#2817 [22:28] <DopeGhoti> you use tabs!
#2818 [22:28] <xales> fisken: can you telnet it on the Minecraft port, whatever you are using?
#2819 [22:28] <DopeGhoti> <3!
#2820 [22:28] <xales> DopeGhoti: lol
#2821 [22:28] <jackknrsh7> ok must restart to complete uninstall. be back soon. will tell you if its fixed
#2822 [22:29] <fisken> xales: telnet what on what? i'm using the default server software
#2823 [22:29] <xales> fisken: indeed. see if you can telnet to it
#2824 [22:29] <DopeGhoti> Wait, since when has C++ had a native string class? Or is that from one of your #includes
#2825 [22:29] <xales> DopeGhoti: <string>
#2826 [22:29] <xales> not native, part of the STL
#2827 [22:29] <fisken> xales: telnet what? sorry..
#2828 [22:29] <xales> fisken: the Minecraft server
#2829 [22:29] <DopeGhoti> ah, lib.h
#2830 [22:30] <xales> assuming you are using the default port, `telnet ip 25565`
#2831 [22:30] <fisken> xales: ohhhhh
#2832 [22:30] <xales> DopeGhoti: it's a precompiled header
#2833 [22:30] <xales> it compiles to lib.h.gch, to greatly decrease compile time
#2834 [22:30] <DopeGhoti> xales: yes, I just didn't look at lib.h yet, so didn't see where string was being defined.
#2835 [22:30] <xales> ah, ok
#2836 [22:32] <fisken> xales: so no i can not, it's trying and won't connect
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#2838 [22:32] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, rhett
#2839 [22:32] <xales> fisken: is there anything on the server-ip= line of server.properties?
#2840 [22:32] <rhett> yo
#2841 [22:32] <rhett> hey i got a quick question
#2842 [22:33] <rhett> i'm trying to set up a minecraft server
#2843 [22:33] <rhett> i have it running on an ubuntu machine that has no gui
#2844 [22:33] <fisken> xales: no there isn't
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#2846 [22:33] <xales> fisken: have you tried restarting the server?
#2847 [22:33] <rhett> however everytime i run the server .jar file it says it starts and then it says it stops without telling me why
#2848 [22:33] <fisken> xales: yes
#2849 [22:34] <rhett> any ideas?
#2850 [22:34] <xales> rhett: delete server.properties
#2851 [22:34] <jackknrsh> hey everybody. i'm back. unfortunately the problem is still there
#2852 [22:34] <rhett> wtf? wow why did that work?
#2853 [22:34] <xales> rhett: you had something invalid in the file
#2854 [22:34] <xales> jackknrsh: try turning AVG off, as well
#2855 [22:34] <rhett> but i just downloaded it
#2856 [22:34] <jackknrsh> ok how?
#2857 [22:35] <xales> click the 'Guardian Shield' component, and uncheck the boxes (not sure exactly what they say) pertaining to it being active
#2858 [22:35] <rhett> sweet well thanks a ton
#2859 [22:35] <rhett> later
#2860 [22:36] <fisken> xales: anything else i can do?
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#2862 [22:36] <xales> fisken: try copying the jar to a new, empty folder
#2863 [22:36] <fisken> xales: will do
#2864 [22:37] <andResin> hey
#2865 [22:37] <andResin> why when I start minecraft
#2866 [22:37] <andResin> it starts veryyyyyyyy laggt
#2867 [22:37] <andResin> but it is sometimes
#2868 [22:37] <jackknrsh> guardian shield?
#2869 [22:37] <xales> jackknrsh: something like that
#2870 [22:37] <xales> andResin: do you have antivirus running?
#2871 [22:38] <lemon-rev> hey help, and all helpers of channel, xales i would think more of ram than antivurus but you go boy :)
#2872 [22:38] <DopeGhoti> andResin: how fragmented is your hard drive? It has to read a couple hozillion files from the save directory more or less all the time.
#2873 [22:38] <jackknrsh> ah. resident shield is what its called. ok heregoes again
#2874 [22:38] <andResin> xales, yes, the another day I try closing all the programs
#2875 [22:38] <andResin> and it dont works
#2876 [22:38] <xales> did you try turning off the antivirus?
#2877 [22:38] <xales> as I said before.
#2878 [22:38] <andResin> but Its weird because it just happen very often
#2879 [22:39] <andResin> yes xales
#2880 [22:39] <andResin> that dont wokr
#2881 [22:39] <andResin> work*
#2882 [22:39] <xales> try defragmenting the hard drive, as DopeGhoti said
#2883 [22:40] <jackknrsh> any anti-viruses out there that work well with minecraft?
#2884 [22:40] <jackknrsh> cause this is a pain kidna
#2885 [22:40] <DopeGhoti> I use AVG without incident.
#2886 [22:40] <andResin> xales, but after 30 mins or 1 hour
#2887 [22:40] <andResin> the game is fine
#2888 [22:40] <xales> once again.
#2889 [22:40] <xales> try defragmenting
#2890 [22:40] <Checkzor> ok so
#2891 [22:41] <Checkzor> my /dev/shm is still using harddrive space
#2892 [22:41] <xales> don't keep saying "but this" and "but that" - you are here for our help, if you aren't going to accept it, we aren't going to give it.
#2893 [22:41] <Checkzor> whats the default size of /dev/shm
#2894 [22:41] <jackknrsh> no luck. still in the abyss after zonealarm and avg are off
#2895 [22:42] <xales> jackknrsh: is this the same computer you are trying to play from?
#2896 [22:42] <jackknrsh> yes
#2897 [22:42] <xales> do you have any other programs, at all open?
#2898 [22:42] <jackknrsh> firefox for this
#2899 [22:42] <jackknrsh> other than that, no
#2900 [22:42] <xales> have you tried with firefox closed?
#2901 [22:42] <DopeGhoti> Checkzor: /dev/shm will only swap out if you run out of RAM.
#2902 [22:42] <jackknrsh> also, i'm running bukkit
#2903 [22:43] <xales> have you tried running it without bukkit
#2904 [22:43] <jackknrsh> but thats part of the server
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#2906 [22:43] <jackknrsh> without bukkit still in the pit
#2907 [22:43] <jackknrsh> lemme try without firefox
#2908 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Pit?
#2909 [22:44] <xales> GreyVulpine: falling into the abyss, no chunks loading thing
#2910 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Aah. hmm.
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#2912 [22:45] <DopeGhoti> have you yet reinstalled the binaries?
#2913 [22:45] <jackknrsh7> back again! shutting off firefox, bukkit, and both does nothing
#2914 [22:45] <DopeGhoti> have you yet reinstalled the binaries?
#2915 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Also, new map?
#2916 [22:46] <jackknrsh7> the what?
#2917 [22:46] <DopeGhoti> ?? reinstall/win
#2918 [22:46] <DopeGhoti> ?? reinst/win
#2919 [22:46] <VoxelHead> reinst/win: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2920 [22:46] <VoxelHead> reinst/win: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2921 [22:47] <fisken> xales: didn't work. still trying to connect indefinitely
#2922 [22:47] <xales> heh, I just realized how you can tell a Unix user from a Windows user
#2923 [22:47] <xales> fisken: can you connect locally (from that machine)?
#2924 [22:48] <fisken> xales: from the computer actually hosting the server? yes
#2925 [22:48] <jackknrsh7> reinstalled win, still in the pit
#2926 [22:48] <xales> Unix users generally call directories, directories, whereas Windows users call them what Windows calls them, folders
#2927 [22:48] <xales> jackknrsh7: how much RAM does the computer have?
#2928 [22:48] <jackknrsh7> could it have to do with alot of my map is only 1 layer of adminium? i modded the map to make it mostly flat
#2929 [22:48] <jackknrsh7> 4gbddr2
#2930 [22:48] <xales> try with a normal map
#2931 [22:48] <DopeGhoti> DDR2?
#2932 [22:48] <DopeGhoti> what CPU?
#2933 [22:49] <jackknrsh7> its a intel core 2 duo
#2934 [22:49] <xales> I still have DDR2 ram ._.
#2935 [22:49] <jackknrsh7> peice of junk
#2936 [22:49] <DopeGhoti> ..try with a completely new, unmodified map
#2937 [22:50] <jackknrsh7> ok
#2938 [22:50] <fisken> xales: this is starting to look pretty grim..
#2939 [22:50] <Checkzor> hmm
#2940 [22:50] <xales> fisken: are both computers on Ethernet?
#2941 [22:51] <jackknrsh7> woohoo! now i'm getting a java error
#2942 [22:51] <fisken> xales: you mean connected physically? cuz then no
#2943 [22:51] <xales> fisken: yes, physically
#2944 [22:51] <xales> jackknrsh7: pastebin it
#2945 [22:51] <fisken> xales: the one that can't connect is connected wirelessly
#2946 [22:51] <xales> fisken: try connecting it physically
#2947 [22:52] <fisken> xales: okie dokie
#2948 [22:52] <Checkzor> DopeGhoti, shouldn't running it in /dev/shm make saving faster?
#2949 [22:52] <DopeGhoti> Checkzor: so long as it's not getting swapped out, yes
#2950 [22:52] <jackknrsh7> http://mibpaste.com/8UQCWW
#2951 [22:53] <DopeGhoti> what's your player name, jackknrsh7? Any unicode in there?
#2952 [22:53] <Checkzor> how do I check the size of /deve/shm
#2953 [22:53] <Checkzor> as it really does not feel faster
#2954 [22:53] <jackknrsh7> same as here
#2955 [22:53] <jackknrsh7> jackknrsh7
#2956 [22:53] <DopeGhoti> Checkzor: df -h
#2957 [22:53] <DopeGhoti> Checkzor: and also free -m to check swap
#2958 [22:54] <DopeGhoti> jackknrsh7: that error is about a problem with Unicode text translation
#2959 [22:54] <DopeGhoti> the server's not modded in any way?
#2960 [22:54] <Checkzor> hmmm
#2961 [22:54] <jackknrsh7> well in that instance no, i was running it vanilla no gui. normally i use bukkit with a few adons
#2962 [22:54] <Checkzor> seems like it's using just ram
#2963 [22:55] <Checkzor> how do I check my ram i/o
#2964 [22:55] <jackknrsh7> now wait. i grabbed one of my SSP maps and droped it into mp, now it works
#2965 [22:55] <DopeGhoti> iotop
#2966 [22:55] <jackknrsh7> but when i go back i get the abyss again
#2967 [22:55] <jackknrsh7> so it has to be the map right?
#2968 [22:55] <DopeGhoti> sounds like, jackknrsh7
#2969 [22:55] <Checkzor> iotop didn't work
#2970 [22:55] <jackknrsh7> ok
#2971 [22:55] <fisken> xales: ugh, no, it didn't work.
#2972 [22:55] <jackknrsh7> so is the 300x300 blank chunks a bad idea for the server?
#2973 [22:56] <jackknrsh7> cause thats what i've got
#2974 [22:56] <jackknrsh7> takes an assload of time to load
#2975 [22:56] <jackknrsh7> and could that explain the problem?
#2976 [22:56] <Checkzor> Ok one last thing dope
#2977 [22:57] <Checkzor> how do I get rid of the did the system time change
#2978 [22:57] <DopeGhoti> jackknrsh7: quite likely, especially if there's a problem with your map editor
#2979 [22:57] <Checkzor> or is the server overloaded
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#2981 [22:57] <DopeGhoti> Checkzor: you wait for Notch to adjust the timeslip detection
#2982 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> ?? normal
#2983 [22:57] <VoxelHead> normal: That message is perfectly normal, happens all the time, and can safely be ignored.
#2984 [22:57] <Checkzor> but it seems that it lags whenever that message pops up
#2985 [22:57] <DopeGhoti> ?? normal
#2986 [22:57] <VoxelHead> normal: That message is perfectly normal, happens all the time, and can safely be ignored.
#2987 [22:57] <jackknrsh7> mcedit? i really dont want to have to remake it. took me about 30 hours to put it together in SSP
#2988 [22:58] <DopeGhoti> wow, I must be on a really slow server
#2989 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#2990 [22:58] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.441 Seconds.
#2991 [22:58] <Checkzor> dope would you mind joining my server for a moment
#2992 [22:58] <DopeGhoti> !ping
#2993 [22:58] <GreyBot> DopeGhoti Your Ping time was 3.245 Seconds.
#2994 [22:58] <DopeGhoti> ...ouch.
#2995 [22:58] <Checkzor> just to see what I mean by the stuttering
#2996 [22:58] <jackknrsh7> !ping
#2997 [22:58] <GreyBot> jackknrsh7 Your Ping time was 0.531 Seconds.
#2998 [22:58] <Checkzor> !ping
#2999 [22:58] <GreyBot> Checkzor Your Ping time was 0.371 Seconds.
#3000 [22:58] <Checkzor> I WIN
#3001 [22:58] <Checkzor> >_>
#3002 [22:58] <Checkzor> well I did...
#3003 [22:58] <fisken> xales: you still there?
#3004 [22:59] <jackknrsh7> what map editor could i load it into to avoid losing all that work?
#3005 [22:59] <xales> fisken: yeah, sorry
#3006 [22:59] <DopeGhoti> not sure.
#3007 [22:59] <DopeGhoti> and yes, I'd be happy to pop into your server. Address?
#3008 [23:00] <fisken> xales: no problem, so yea, tried connecting with ethernet, no dice
#3009 [23:00] <xales> fisken: make sure to disable the wireless connection as well
#3010 [23:00] <fisken> xales: yea i did
#3011 [23:00] <fisken> xales: nothin
#3012 [23:00] <xales> is there a firewall running on either system?
#3013 [23:01] <fisken> xales: i'm not sure, i don't really know anything about firewalls with linux. never really delt with it before
#3014 [23:01] <Checkzor> truesurvival.net
#3015 [23:01] <Checkzor> tdope
#3016 [23:01] <Checkzor> dope*
#3017 [23:01] <xales> open a Terminal, and run the command
#3018 [23:01] <xales> 'sudo iptables -L'
#3019 [23:02] <xales> and pastebin the output of that, provided it's not an error
#3020 [23:02] <fisken> xales: k
#3021 [23:03] <Ronjoe> inb4 "User is not in sudoers file. This incident has been reported"
#3022 [23:04] <fisken> xales: http://pastebin.com/UbG55N8b
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#3024 [23:05] <xales> fisken: run the command "sudo ufw disable"
#3025 [23:05] <fisken> xales: alright, i did
#3026 [23:05] <xales> see if it works now
#3027 [23:05] <fisken> k
#3028 [23:06] <xales> i'll be back in a few minutes
#3029 [23:07] <fisken> xales: well it works, I can't thank you enough. have a good day xales
#3030 [23:11] <Checkzor> k
#3031 [23:11] <DopeGhoti> so
#3032 [23:12] <Checkzor> oh and when ever it spikes I get that can't keep up message
#3033 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> 'renicing' a process to a lower-than-zero number tells it to be less nice about tielding CPU time to other, nicer, processes
#3034 [23:12] <Checkzor> Ahh ok
#3035 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> hmm, if you check free -m, is there any swap in-use?
#3036 [23:12] <Checkzor> that might work
#3037 [23:12] <Checkzor> 0 0 0
#3038 [23:12] <Checkzor> none
#3039 [23:12] <Checkzor> none at all
#3040 [23:13] <DopeGhoti> okay, try renicing it
#3041 [23:13] <DopeGhoti> run top, look for the java process
#3042 [23:13] <DopeGhoti> hit r, type in the pid for it, and for the nice value, try, say, -3
#3043 [23:13] <Checkzor> done
#3044 [23:14] <DopeGhoti> now see if it's any better
#3045 [23:14] <Checkzor> k
#3046 [23:14] <xales> duh
#3047 [23:14] <xales> it's a VPS?
#3048 [23:14] <xales> DopeGhoti: no swap generally means an OpenVZ VPS - you should always have swap
#3049 [23:14] <Checkzor> dedicated
#3050 [23:15] <xales> why no swap?
#3051 [23:15] <xales> all distros default to a swap partition
#3052 [23:15] <Checkzor> no swap in use ...
#3053 [23:15] <Checkzor> not no swap period
#3054 [23:15] <xales> are you sure?
#3055 [23:15] <Checkzor> nope :3
#3056 [23:15] <xales> is free -m says 0 0 0 in the swap line
#3057 [23:16] <xales> then there is no swap
#3058 [23:16] <Checkzor> ok then what the hell
#3059 [23:16] <xales> Swap: 255 40 215 <--- correct
#3060 [23:16] <Checkzor> it's a fresh install
#3061 [23:16] <xales> pastebin the output of `mount`
#3062 [23:16] <Checkzor> http://mibpaste.com/fZcpNe
#3063 [23:17] <DopeGhoti> oh god
#3064 [23:17] <DopeGhoti> df output in non-<pre>
#3065 [23:17] * Checkzor cries at hearing that
#3065 [23:17] <DopeGhoti> why would anyone DO that?
#3066 [23:17] <xales> what distro is it, Checkzor?
#3067 [23:17] <DopeGhoti> and indeed, there's no swap
#3068 [23:17] <Checkzor> centos5 64bit
#3069 [23:18] <xales> ugh
#3070 [23:18] <DopeGhoti> you using /mnt/ram at all?
#3071 [23:18] <xales> centos is annoying
#3072 [23:18] <DopeGhoti> xales: <3
#3073 [23:18] <DopeGhoti> if not, unmount it and free up the RAM
#3074 [23:18] <xales> annoying = bad in most every case
#3075 [23:18] <Checkzor> how to I unmount
#3076 [23:18] <Checkzor> do I*
#3077 [23:18] <xales> unmount /dev/ram
#3078 [23:18] <xales> or whatever
#3079 [23:18] <xales> s/dev/mnt/
#3080 [23:18] <DopeGhoti> umount /mnt/ram
#3081 [23:19] <Checkzor> device is busy
#3082 [23:19] <xales> you DID close the server, right?
#3083 [23:19] <Checkzor> :P one sec
#3084 [23:20] <DopeGhoti> wait
#3085 [23:20] <Checkzor> ok so my server is in
#3086 [23:20] <DopeGhoti> is the server in /mnt/ram or /dev/shm?
#3087 [23:20] <Checkzor> shm
#3088 [23:20] <DopeGhoti> okay
#3089 [23:20] <DopeGhoti> lsof | grep /mnt/ram
#3090 [23:20] <DopeGhoti> that'll show any processes currently touching that directory
#3091 [23:21] <Checkzor> http://mibpaste.com/Nd6BIC
#3092 [23:21] <Checkzor> wtf deleted :/
#3093 [23:22] <DopeGhoti> a> you still have a shell open in that directory. Close that shell
#3094 [23:22] <DopeGhoti> B> for the love of god, use a pastebin that uses a monospace font!
#3095 [23:23] <Checkzor> lsof | grep /mnt/ram
#3096 [23:23] <Checkzor> wow
#3097 [23:23] <Checkzor> derp
#3098 [23:23] <Checkzor> how do I close that shell
#3099 [23:23] <Checkzor> nothing is opened?
#3100 [23:23] <DopeGhoti> kill -TERM 1057
#3101 [23:23] <DopeGhoti> if that doesn't do it within 30 seconds, s/TERM/KILL/
#3102 [23:24] <Checkzor> the first one didn't work
#3103 [23:24] <Checkzor> what do I do for the second command?
#3104 [23:25] <DopeGhoti> kill -KILL 1057
#3105 [23:25] <Checkzor> alright it's dead
#3106 [23:25] <Checkzor> lsof | grep /mnt/ram
#3107 [23:25] <Checkzor> gives no output now
#3108 [23:25] <DopeGhoti> good, now `umount /mnt/ram`
#3109 [23:25] <Checkzor> now I can umount /mnt/ram
#3110 [23:25] <Checkzor> k
#3111 [23:25] <Checkzor> done
#3112 [23:26] <Checkzor> no error this time
#3113 [23:26] <DopeGhoti> good. Free memory get!
#3114 [23:26] <Checkzor> ok so why is it that I have no swap -_-
#3115 [23:26] <DopeGhoti> ask your vendor
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#3117 [23:27] <Checkzor> http://mibpaste.com/0zwDnt
#3118 [23:27] <Checkzor> is now the output of this
#3119 [23:27] <Checkzor> total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 7920 4061 3858 0 280 3323 -/+ buffers/cache: 458 7462 Swap: 0 0 0
#3120 [23:27] <Checkzor> omg
#3121 [23:27] <Checkzor> so anyways now what O_o
#3122 [23:27] <DopeGhoti> okay, so you have plenty of free RAM and you are still using that patebin my god stop it i cannot take anymore
#3123 [23:28] <Checkzor> lmao
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#3125 [23:29] <Checkzor> so I free'd some ram
#3126 [23:29] <DopeGhoti> also, this chair is killing me and I need to write an angry email to my supercheap VPS vendor for terrible network throughput
#3127 [23:29] <xales> hmm
#3128 [23:30] <Checkzor> java was already reserving reserving 7gb for the server
#3129 [23:30] <Checkzor> how is this going to help?
#3130 [23:30] <xales> I wonder why it's nick is lowercase
#3131 [23:30] <xales> probably because I typed it that way
#3132 [23:30] <xales> %quit
#3133 [23:30] <DopeGhoti> that might do it
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#3135 [23:31] <xales> \o/
#3136 [23:31] <xales> grm
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#3138 [23:32] <xales> I pushed that if you want to take a look
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#3140 [23:33] <xales> \o/
#3141 [23:33] <xales> 23:33:48 [espernet] CTCP VERSION reply from WontonBot: Wonton IRC Bot
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#3143 [23:36] <Checkzor> ok
#3144 [23:36] <Checkzor> so I just relaunched the server btw I use this
#3145 [23:36] <Checkzor> java -server -Xms6700M -Xmx6700M -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+CMSIncrementalPacing -XX:ParallelGCThreads=6 -XX:+AggressiveOpts -jar craftbukkit.jar nogui
#3146 [23:37] <xales> -server?
#3147 [23:37] <xales> %quit
#3148 [23:37] <xales> DopeGhoti: it's Python time!
#3149 [23:39] <DopeGhoti> Checkzor: Yahey!
#3150 [23:39] <DopeGhoti> er
#3151 [23:39] <DopeGhoti> xales: Wahey!
#3152 [23:40] <xales> DopeGhoti: I'm too tired to work on it, but feel free to play with it
#3153 [23:40] <xales> I merged master and dev again
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#3155 [23:40] <DopeGhoti> I will give it pokes and prods as time permits, but literally can't take any more of this chair's punishment
#3156 [23:40] <xales> ok
#3157 [23:40] <DopeGhoti> so it's choretime, and then TVtime
#3158 [23:50] <xales> well, I'm off to bed
#3159 [23:50] * xales goes to bed
#3159 [23:50] <Checkzor> DopeGhoti check your pm,
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