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#3 [00:14] <jdodson99> Okay, so uh, I was INVediting some stuff while making an epic monument, and I gave meh some armor, but now I can't die. Yes, I took the armor off. I have quit, went back to the world, and *TRIED* to kill myself, but I won't lose health. Anyone know what's wrong?
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#10 [00:56] <mr_pants> Someone connect to my server to tell me if its working?
#11 [00:56] <lemon-rev> whats the ip
#12 [00:56] <mr_pants> 68.41.95.34:25566
#13 [00:56] <lemon-rev> !check 68.41.95.34:25566
#14 [00:57] <lemon-rev> there you go
#15 [00:57] <mr_pants> ty
#16 [00:57] <mr_pants> its already on fire!!! =O
#17 [00:57] <mr_pants> lmao darn griefers
#18 [00:57] <lemon-rev> oh dear
#19 [00:58] <mr_pants> it just went up =/
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#22 [01:06] <jwshields> I'm running a server on debian linux, im connected to my computer by ssh and looking at the console output.. I keep on getting a message saying "0, 0
#23 [01:06] <jwshields> "
#24 [01:06] <jwshields> what's it mean?
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#26 [01:07] <jwshields> here's what im seeing, http://jwshields.pastebin.com/tRmK2vGp
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#28 [01:15] <jwshields> and my game is also lagging/freezing like crazy
#29 [01:16] <lemon-rev> jwshields i dont know whats up with that linux, but lagging if your trying muliplayer will and can do really slow down your movements if you dont have enough ram to support what your trying to do
#30 [01:16] <jwshields> Well, its not because of multiplayer, my server can easily hold 10 people, but i only have 3 on it, and my character likes to freeze.
#31 [01:19] <lemon-rev> what do you mean like freeze ie trying to move from one place to another, do you get an error log if you totally quit out of minecraft ?, it sounds like lag issues, and are you talking about your internet speed when you say it can hold 10 people ?
#32 [01:21] <jwshields> sorry, i wasnt specific enough, my server has enough processing power and ram to hold 10 people, my net connection is fine. no errors are present in the logs. im monitoring cpu usage, and one core is being constantly maxed out, its not like, laglag, like, the server cant keep up, its lag like, the thing actually freezes
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#34 [01:21] <lemon-rev> hm
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#36 [01:22] <jwshields> Yeah, and then the constant spam of "0, 0" is irritating
#37 [01:22] <lemon-rev> jwshields what happens if you try running in browswer ?
#38 [01:22] <jwshields> running what? my client? i dont think it'll have a difference.
#39 [01:23] <lemon-rev> that only started to happen ie in pastebin after you said you where 0, 0 so not sure there wasnt any idecation of what started it off
#40 [01:23] <lemon-rev> well like going web based connecting to your server
#41 [01:23] <lemon-rev> and trying to see if you lagg like crap or freze problems happen thatway
#42 [01:23] <jwshields> I dont remember exactly what started it, but my server got blown to hell by a greifer, and getting errors all around
#43 [01:24] <Rivade> Hey guys... I was wondering if there is a mod to have an infinite number of building blocks on a private server for everyone
#44 [01:24] <jwshields> like, he used a fuckload of tnt when nobody was around
#45 [01:24] <lemon-rev> rivade go download classic minecraft
#46 [01:25] <Rivade> Is Classic different from the purchased beta?
#47 [01:25] <Rivade> Aside from the above?
#48 [01:25] <lemon-rev> could be map error, in that case it could mean you might have to restart or save a backup and see if a new world will help
#49 [01:25] <lemon-rev> yes rivade its different its free
#50 [01:26] <jwshields> hmm, okay, let me try with a different map
#51 [01:26] <jwshields> one sec
#52 [01:27] <jwshields> making a new world now
#53 [01:31] <jwshields> lemon-rev, it seems making a new world solved the problem..
#54 [01:31] <jwshields> ugh,
#55 [01:31] <lemon-rev> hm
#56 [01:31] <lemon-rev> sounds like the greefer soemhow currupted your world
#57 [01:31] <lemon-rev> sorry to hear it
#58 [01:31] <jwshields> Awh.
#59 [01:31] <jwshields> Okay :/
#60 [01:32] <jwshields> Thanks anyway
#61 [01:32] <lemon-rev> np
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#66 [01:42] <aetherian> hey guys
#67 [01:42] <lemon-rev> hey
#68 [01:43] <jwshields> hi!
#69 [01:43] <aetherian> sup
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#71 [01:43] <lemon-rev> mineing
#72 [01:44] <lemon-rev> found out greefing can f'up maps on muliplayer
#73 [01:44] <GLaDOS> griefing?
#74 [01:45] <lemon-rev> yea thats the word
#75 [01:45] * GLaDOS kicked lemon-rev from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN)
#76 [01:45] <aetherian> o.o
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#78 [01:45] * GLaDOS whistles
#78 [01:45] <rev-lemon> wtf man
#79 [01:45] <rev-lemon> that wasnt funny at all
#80 [01:46] <aetherian> it was, actually
#81 [01:46] <aetherian> btw
#82 [01:46] <GLaDOS> neither is griefing
#83 [01:46] <GLaDOS> so i advise you stop
#84 [01:46] <rev-lemon> i didnt do it, but the other guy found out it can cause it
#85 [01:46] <rev-lemon> dammit
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#87 [01:50] <GLaDOS> AuBot <3
#88 [01:50] <aetherian> <3
#89 [01:50] * GLaDOS hugs AuBot
#89 [01:50] <aetherian> that's my line
#90 [01:50] * aetherian hugs aubot
#90 [01:50] <GLaDOS> OH GOD A CIA.VC BOT
#91 [01:51] <aetherian> o.o
#92 [01:51] <GLaDOS> /kick AuBot NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN
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#94 [01:51] <aetherian> NO NO NO
#95 [01:52] <GLaDOS> ICH LIEBE GERHMAN
#96 [01:52] <GLaDOS> NEIN NEIN NEIN
#97 [01:52] <aetherian> I can speak a little german
#98 [01:52] <aetherian> can't really spell all too good though...
#99 [01:54] <GLaDOS> http://translate.google.com/?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&text=ICH+LIEBE+GERHMAN# and http://translate.google.com/#auto|en|ICH%20LIEBE%20GERMAN
#100 [01:54] <GLaDOS> one letter
#101 [01:54] <GLaDOS> changes it all
#102 [01:55] <aetherian> lern2bit.ly
#103 [01:55] <GLaDOS> Ich bin ein Pirat
#104 [01:56] <aetherian> lolwut
#105 [01:56] <aetherian> germanwings
#106 [01:56] <aetherian> like chicken wings?
#107 [01:56] <GLaDOS> yar har Geige dee
#108 [01:57] <GLaDOS> wobei ein Pirat ist für mich ok
#109 [01:57] <GLaDOS> tun, was Sie bewirken, dass ein Pirat ist frei
#110 [01:57] <GLaDOS> Sie sind ein Pirat
#111 [01:57] <aetherian> parlez-cous francais?
#112 [01:59] <GLaDOS> ouo
#113 [01:59] <GLaDOS> oui*
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#116 [02:01] <GLaDOS> Je parle couramment dans google-parole que je voulais dire français
#117 [02:01] <aetherian> je ne pas compris
#118 [02:01] <aetherian> pourriez vous repetier sil-vous plait
#119 [02:03] <GLaDOS> Je suis tellement totalement couramment le français
#120 [02:04] <aetherian> nein donka
#121 [02:06] <GLaDOS> wut
#122 [02:07] <aetherian> nein donka is my standard answer to something I don
#123 [02:07] <aetherian> t understand in a foreign language >.>
#124 [02:08] * aetherian isn't going off of google translate
#124 [02:08] <GLaDOS> k
#125 [02:08] <deem> Baguette ... that�s pretty much where it ends... -.-
#126 [02:09] <GLaDOS> "i am totally fluent in french" i said
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#128 [02:10] <Mahony> Hi there
#129 [02:10] <deem> omg it�s alive!
#130 [02:11] <aetherian> hey mahony
#131 [02:11] <aetherian> ancestor of mine had the last name of mahoney
#132 [02:11] <aetherian> I have a painting he made hanging by my bed
#133 [02:11] <aetherian> aaaand it's crooked
#134 [02:11] <aetherian> brb
#135 [02:11] <Mahony> :)
#136 [02:11] <GLaDOS> according to deem's reaction, Mahony is a bot
#137 [02:11] <GLaDOS> DERP
#138 [02:11] <aetherian> back
#139 [02:12] <aetherian> mahony
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#141 [02:14] <GLaDOS> if using it on your desktop, remove "nogui" from the line"
#142 [02:14] * aetherian waves to aubot
#142 [02:14] * GLaDOS rapes AuBot
#142 [02:14] <GLaDOS> OWOWOWOW
#143 [02:14] <aetherian> glados
#144 [02:14] <Mahony> does java offers any options to see how many memory an app is consuming ?
#145 [02:15] <aetherian> now that you've studied him
#146 [02:15] <aetherian> or her
#147 [02:15] <aetherian> is aubot a boy or a girl >:
#148 [02:15] * GLaDOS trolls AuBot
#148 [02:15] <GLaDOS> female
#149 [02:15] * aetherian starts a long lasting friendship with aubot
#149 [02:15] <aetherian> <3
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#151 [02:16] * GLaDOS 0starts dry humping AuBot
#151 [02:17] <aetherian> o.o
#152 [02:17] <GLaDOS> derp
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#154 [02:18] <aetherian> !8ball is glados a derper
#155 [02:18] <oracular> Outlook good
#156 [02:18] <aetherian> o.o
#157 [02:18] <aetherian> herp
#158 [02:18] <Shadow386> !8ball will everyone in this channel lose the game?
#159 [02:18] <oracular> Yes - Definitely
#160 [02:18] <Shadow386> Ohhhh man.
#161 [02:19] <aetherian> bit.ly/wonthegame
#162 [02:19] <aetherian> :)
#163 [02:19] <Shadow386> I actually found a loophole
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#165 [02:19] <aetherian> who hasn't...
#166 [02:19] <Shadow386> noone said you had to continue playing the game after losing
#167 [02:19] <Shadow386> ;3
#168 [02:20] <aetherian> actually
#169 [02:20] <aetherian> it's in the rules
#170 [02:20] <Shadow386> that you are always playing, but it doesnt say in any written rule that you have to play AGAIN after you lose
#171 [02:22] <aetherian> I found a flaw in your argument
#172 [02:22] <Sqozza> Yes.
#173 [02:22] <aetherian> "... any writen rule ..."
#174 [02:22] <Sqozza> But you are always playing.
#175 [02:22] <Sqozza> Thus, even if you lose
#176 [02:22] <Sqozza> you are still playing.
#177 [02:23] <aetherian> although there is typically a 5-15 minute grace period
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#181 [02:41] <Blackscreen> i need help
#182 [02:41] <Blackscreen> i tried to install a mod but now my loading screen is black
#183 [02:41] <Blackscreen> i tried deleting everything but it didnt help
#184 [02:41] <Blackscreen> im using mac
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#186 [02:42] <Blackscreen> someone help me?
#187 [02:42] <rev-lemon> hm, trouble is we dont really deal with mods
#188 [02:42] <jwshields> video drivers?
#189 [02:42] <jwshields> i dont know
#190 [02:43] <jwshields> does it work without the mod/
#191 [02:43] <rev-lemon> and did the game work well before you tryed the mod
#192 [02:43] <Blackscreen> i deleted the mod
#193 [02:43] <Blackscreen> yes
#194 [02:43] <Blackscreen> it worked well
#195 [02:43] <Blackscreen> i payed for the game but i cant play it now =(
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#197 [02:43] <rev-lemon> hm, well you could always try to redownload minecraft into another directory
#198 [02:43] <rev-lemon> and try to re run from there
#199 [02:43] <Blackscreen> how do i do that?
#200 [02:44] <jwshields> I'd say it's the mod thats breaking it
#201 [02:44] <jwshields> is it compatible with your version
#202 [02:44] <jwshields> ?
#203 [02:44] <Blackscreen> i deleted it tho
#204 [02:44] <Blackscreen> i think
#205 [02:44] <Blackscreen> but its all gone i deleted it and tried to reinstall
#206 [02:44] <Blackscreen> but its stuffed
#207 [02:46] <rev-lemon> hm
#208 [02:46] <rev-lemon> blackscreen
#209 [02:46] <rev-lemon> goto minecraft.net
#210 [02:46] <rev-lemon> and see if you can log into the browswer and play that way
#211 [02:46] <rev-lemon> ?
#212 [02:46] <Blackscreen> ok..
#213 [02:47] <Blackscreen> its still just a black screen
#214 [02:47] <rev-lemon> hm
#215 [02:48] <rev-lemon> wird how long ago did it break, and have you restarted your computer since then ?
#216 [02:48] <Blackscreen> yesterday and iv restarted it alot
#217 [02:48] <rev-lemon> k
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#220 [02:48] <rev-lemon> only thing i can really think of is trying to update your java
#221 [02:49] <Blackscreen> i did update it
#222 [02:50] <Blackscreen> man this sucks
#223 [02:50] <rev-lemon> hm
#224 [02:50] <Blackscreen> lost all my cool worlds
#225 [02:50] <rev-lemon> can you do a search for miencraft on your computer and see if anything is lost or anything is stil there
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#227 [02:52] <Blackscreen> theres nothing
#228 [02:52] <Blackscreen> i typed minecraft into "finder" and nothing came up
#229 [02:52] <rev-lemon> k
#230 [02:52] <Blackscreen> is there anyway i can like change my settings back to yesterdays/
#231 [02:52] <rev-lemon> theres a folder called .minecraft could be what your missing but i dont know with mac's
#232 [02:53] <rev-lemon> i know windows has that feature , i guess you can like google, it
#233 [02:53] <rev-lemon> its called restore points
#234 [02:53] <rev-lemon> on windows systems
#235 [02:53] <Blackscreen> ok
#236 [02:53] <aetherian> hey uh
#237 [02:54] <aetherian> I've asked this but
#238 [02:54] <aetherian> what is mode +t
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#240 [02:55] <aetherian> ?
#241 [02:55] <rev-lemon> only external messages, only ops control the topic, could be, not sure, thats what modes look set when i doulbe click the channel
#242 [02:55] <Blackscreen> there is no restore points on mac =(
#243 [02:55] <rev-lemon> is there something like that though
#244 [02:55] <aetherian> so if a channel has no +t
#245 [02:56] <aetherian> then any person can change the topic
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#247 [02:56] <aetherian> blackscreen: I know your problem, and the solution
#248 [02:57] <aetherian> ...buy a pc :O
#249 [02:57] <Blackscreen> how, im using mac
#250 [02:57] <Blackscreen> i have a pc
#251 [02:57] <rev-lemon> im guessing aetherian
#252 [02:57] <Blackscreen> but school gave me a macbook
#253 [02:57] <aetherian> o.o
#254 [02:57] <Blackscreen> i play minecraft on my mac
#255 [02:57] <aetherian> what the hell messed up school gives a student a mac
#256 [02:57] <Blackscreen> our school
#257 [02:57] <Blackscreen> all students get a macbook
#258 [02:58] <aetherian> fail
#259 [02:58] <Blackscreen> fail?
#260 [02:58] <aetherian> install linux on it
#261 [02:58] <Blackscreen> u dont need to carry books anymore
#262 [02:58] <Blackscreen> linux?
#263 [02:58] <Blackscreen> will that fix it?
#264 [02:58] <aetherian> yes
#265 [02:58] <aetherian> probably
#266 [02:59] <aetherian> ...heh
#267 [02:59] <aetherian> reminds me of my friends
#268 [02:59] <aetherian> multiple responses to me mentioning linux
#269 [03:00] <aetherian> "what's that?" "does anyone even use that anymore?" "..." etc
#270 [03:00] <Blackscreen> buts whats it do
#271 [03:01] <AndrewPH> EEEEVRRRYYTHINNGNGGS
#272 [03:01] <aetherian> YES
#273 [03:01] <aetherian> actually, pretty much
#274 [03:01] <Blackscreen> but like
#275 [03:01] <Blackscreen> how do i use it
#276 [03:02] <aetherian> download it
#277 [03:02] <Blackscreen> im barely startin to get the hang of mac
#278 [03:02] <aetherian> burn a disc image
#279 [03:02] <Blackscreen> how do u burn
#280 [03:02] <aetherian> and boot up, setting first boot to your cd drive
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#282 [03:02] <aetherian> ugh
#283 [03:02] <aetherian> this is too easy
#284 [03:02] <Blackscreen> im using a mac os x
#285 [03:02] <aetherian> this is like telling someone system32 is a virus and them believing it
#286 [03:02] <aetherian> someone help me
#287 [03:03] <aetherian> tell this guy about linux
#288 [03:03] <aetherian> xales?
#289 [03:03] <aetherian> oh wait, he's away
#290 [03:03] <aetherian> somebody. please.
#291 [03:03] <Blackscreen> how can i use it to play minecraft
#292 [03:03] <Blackscreen> iv screwed up my folders
#293 [03:03] <Blackscreen> and it wont re install them
#294 [03:03] <relsqui> aetherian: stop trolling
#295 [03:04] <aetherian> relsqui: I'm not. I am telling the truth.
#296 [03:04] <Blackscreen> when i download client it just downloads the thing but gives me no folder
#297 [03:04] <Blackscreen> then i get a black screen!
#298 [03:04] <relsqui> aetherian: you are *also* trolling
#299 [03:04] <relsqui> "dur hur buy a pc, install linux"
#300 [03:04] <relsqui> is not helping
#301 [03:04] <aetherian> relsqui: I need my bit of fun with ignorant people too
#302 [03:04] <relsqui> bullshit.
#303 [03:04] <aetherian> besides, I don't see you helping
#304 [03:04] <relsqui> and you were that ignorant once.
#305 [03:04] <relsqui> I just got here!
#306 [03:04] <Blackscreen> lol can someone just help me
#307 [03:05] <aetherian> relsqui: I was dead once.
#308 [03:05] * relsqui pokes scrollback
#308 [03:05] <aetherian> >.>
#309 [03:05] <relsqui> okay, this is a problem I know nothing about; I don't actually have any help to offer
#310 [03:05] <relsqui> this seems to also be true of you :P
#311 [03:05] <Blackscreen> i tried to install a mod and it failed i kept getting black screen, nothing worked i deleted my minecraft folder i tried to reinstall but it wont give me a new minecraft folder
#312 [03:05] <aetherian> ohhh
#313 [03:05] <aetherian> delete META-INF?
#314 [03:05] <Blackscreen> ok lemme search it
#315 [03:06] <aetherian> in minecraft.jar in your application thing
#316 [03:06] <aetherian> application help or whatever
#317 [03:06] <aetherian> where you inserted the mod
#318 [03:06] <Blackscreen> meta-inf came up with 2 txt files
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#320 [03:06] <Blackscreen> delete em?
#321 [03:06] <aetherian> nonono
#322 [03:06] <aetherian> go into minecraft.jar
#323 [03:06] <aetherian> in wherever the mac's application data thing is
#324 [03:07] <Blackscreen> i cant find no minecraft jar
#325 [03:07] <aetherian> what did you do to install the mod?
#326 [03:07] <Blackscreen> download modloader ummm guiloader? and something else
#327 [03:07] <Blackscreen> then it told me to move folders into the minecraft folder
#328 [03:08] <Blackscreen> then it messed up
#329 [03:08] <aetherian> look for META-INF in only the minecraft folder
#330 [03:08] <aetherian> and burn it with fire
#331 [03:08] <Blackscreen> i deleted my minecraft folder
#332 [03:09] <aetherian> o.o
#333 [03:09] <aetherian> how about run a clean install of minecraft
#334 [03:09] <aetherian> !reinstall
#335 [03:09] <aetherian> thank you aubot
#336 [03:09] <aetherian> o.o
#337 [03:10] <Blackscreen> ok
#338 [03:10] * aetherian just found that function, he swears!
#338 [03:10] <Blackscreen> wait should i do !reinstall aswell?
#339 [03:10] <Blackscreen> !reinstall
#340 [03:10] <aetherian> .................
#341 [03:10] <Blackscreen> ok im reading
#342 [03:10] * aetherian facepalms
#342 [03:10] <Blackscreen> is it mac aswell
#343 [03:10] <aetherian> click da link
#344 [03:11] <Blackscreen> k i have im reading..
#345 [03:11] <aetherian> http://bit.ly/dQbne5 , btw
#346 [03:11] <aetherian> for the direct link
#347 [03:12] <Blackscreen> wheres the go menu
#348 [03:12] <Blackscreen> on my finder
#349 [03:13] * aetherian doesn't use a mac... but it should be self-explanatory
#349 [03:13] <Blackscreen> ok im new to mac im trying to find the "go menu"
#350 [03:15] * aetherian waits
#350 [03:15] <aetherian> use the oracle, man
#351 [03:15] <Blackscreen> oracle?
#352 [03:15] <aetherian> yes
#353 [03:15] <Blackscreen> wats dat
#354 [03:15] <aetherian> wikipedia.org is one oracle
#355 [03:15] <aetherian> google.com is another
#356 [03:17] <Blackscreen> still cant find it lol
#357 [03:18] <Blackscreen> found it!
#358 [03:18] <Blackscreen> lol
#359 [03:18] <aetherian> ...
#360 [03:18] <aetherian> http://www.woopid.com/video/494/The-Go-Menu may help?
#361 [03:19] <aetherian> all I had to do was http://bit.ly/iatoWl
#362 [03:19] <aetherian> >.>
#363 [03:19] <aetherian> found a bunch of hitd
#364 [03:19] <aetherian> *hits
#365 [03:19] <Blackscreen> wow it doesnt work!
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#367 [03:20] <Blackscreen> i typed in ~/.minecraft and no folder was found!
#368 [03:20] <Blackscreen> ARGH
#369 [03:20] * aetherian kinda laughs
#369 [03:20] <Blackscreen> i neeeed heeelp
#370 [03:20] <Blackscreen> lol
#371 [03:21] <Blackscreen> 12 bucks for a black screen =(
#372 [03:21] <aetherian> heh
#373 [03:21] <aetherian> technically it's fixable for free, but you don't want to do that :#
#374 [03:21] <aetherian> unless
#375 [03:21] <aetherian> wait
#376 [03:22] <aetherian> run minecraft again
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#379 [03:23] <Blackscreen> no i meant i bought a black screen for 12 bucks
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#381 [03:24] <aetherian> that's what you get for installing mods :O
#382 [03:24] <aetherian> but really
#383 [03:24] <aetherian> run mc again
#384 [03:24] <Blackscreen> still doesnt i did
#385 [03:24] <bluescreen> hello ... can some1 help me pls .. if i want to edit a crafted sign in a multiplayergame i see just ?! instead of letters
#386 [03:24] <Blackscreen> i ddiiiid
#387 [03:25] <Blackscreen> i need more help than that guy ^^
#388 [03:25] <aetherian> bluescreen, break the sign and install it again
#389 [03:26] <aetherian> blackscreen, delete whatever you put the mod into.
#390 [03:26] <bluescreen> nope ... dont work .. my mate got the same probs
#391 [03:26] <bluescreen> its our own server
#392 [03:26] <bluescreen> is there something is should disable or enable ?
#393 [03:27] <bluescreen> and blackscreen ... i think screens should stick together
#394 [03:27] <aetherian> bluescreen, is he running a mod?
#395 [03:27] <aetherian> such as hmod, bukkit, etc
#396 [03:27] <aetherian> oh my god
#397 [03:28] <aetherian> I need backup, moderators >.>
#398 [03:28] <Blackscreen> im gonna find the other shit i downloaded for the mod
#399 [03:28] <Blackscreen> and delete it
#400 [03:29] <aetherian> delete bloody everything
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#402 [03:30] <Blackscreen> iv deleted that stuff
#403 [03:30] <Blackscreen> is there anything else
#404 [03:30] <Blackscreen> why cant i make minecraft download again
#405 [03:30] <Blackscreen> i want it to make a new folder
#406 [03:31] <bluescreen> no help :(
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#408 [03:32] <Blackscreen> im gonna try loading it again
#409 [03:32] <Blackscreen> still aint workin
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#411 [03:33] <Blackscreen> these mods dont help at all
#412 [03:33] <Blackscreen> why be here if ur afk
#413 [03:33] <aetherian> who me?
#414 [03:33] <Blackscreen> not you
#415 [03:33] <Blackscreen> all the people with stars
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#417 [03:34] <Blackscreen> still wont load
#418 [03:36] <Blackscreen> this is starting to annoy me
#419 [03:36] <Blackscreen> i cant get it to work!!
#420 [03:37] <aetherian> greyvulpine, I've said before, and I'll say again, we need a mac guru.
#421 [03:38] <Blackscreen> im gonna go play something else... ill be back later to see if someone else has come online
#422 [03:43] <aetherian> kk
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#425 [03:51] * DopeGhoti blinks
#425 [03:51] <DopeGhoti> someone need McHelp?
#426 [03:51] <DopeGhoti> ??> Blackscreen reinst/mac
#427 [03:51] <VoxelHead> Blackscreen: (reinst/mac) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#428 [03:51] <VoxelHead> Blackscreen: (reinst/mac) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#429 [03:52] <aetherian> dopeghoti
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#431 [03:52] <aetherian> he couldn't find the go menu at first
#432 [03:52] <aetherian> then he said he couldn't find the minecraft folder
#433 [03:52] <aetherian> and that took you a while
#434 [03:52] <DopeGhoti> I was playing Minecraft. :p
#435 [03:53] <aetherian> >:
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#437 [03:53] <aetherian> excuses excuses
#438 [03:53] <aetherian> I was dealing with someone actually talking to me about what linux does
#439 [03:53] <aetherian> o.o
#440 [03:54] <DopeGhoti> "what linux doees"? It's a kernel.
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#442 [03:55] <aetherian> scroll up man
#443 [03:55] <aetherian> :)
#444 [03:57] <DopeGhoti> Too far up for me to bother with.
#445 [03:57] <aetherian> sounds like a job for
#446 [03:57] <aetherian> PASTEBIN
#447 [03:58] <aetherian> up until he ignores me on the subject
#448 [03:59] <aetherian> http://pastebin.com/2w4BaTne
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#451 [03:59] <aetherian> CAKE
#452 [04:00] <feenyx> YESPLEASE
#453 [04:02] <aetherian> !cake
#454 [04:02] <aetherian> o.o
#455 [04:02] <aetherian> I made n673 disconnect?
#456 [04:02] <aetherian> granted, my client has lag
#457 [04:02] <aetherian> !ping
#458 [04:02] <aetherian> ...
#459 [04:02] <bluescreen> hello ... can some1 help me pls .. if i want to edit a crafted sign in a multiplayergame i see just ?! instead of letters
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#462 [04:03] <aetherian> bluescreen, delete the sign and reboot it
#463 [04:03] <bluescreen> still wont work .. sorry ... no1 on my server can edit signs
#464 [04:03] <aetherian> ...
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#466 [04:04] <aetherian> it's not editing if you delete it first...
#467 [04:04] <aetherian> it's reinstalling
#468 [04:04] <Blackscreen> im back is anyone on whocan help me??
#469 [04:04] <bluescreen> kk ill try
#470 [04:04] <bluescreen> sec
#471 [04:04] <Blackscreen> aetherian
#472 [04:04] <DopeGhoti> bluescreen: signs cannot be edited. They can only be destroyed and put back in place.
#473 [04:04] <DopeGhoti> whoever is placing a sign chooses the text thereupon.
#474 [04:04] <Blackscreen> dopeghoti my minecraft has a black screen
#475 [04:04] <Blackscreen> i tried adding a mod
#476 [04:04] <Blackscreen> it stuffed everything up
#477 [04:04] <aetherian> dopeghoti: this is the second time I've tried to tell bluey this
#478 [04:04] <Blackscreen> i deleted everything
#479 [04:05] <aetherian> blackscreen: delete more
#480 [04:05] <DopeGhoti> Blackscreen: by "everything", what exactly do you mean?
#481 [04:05] <bluescreen> kk
#482 [04:05] <Blackscreen> minecraft folder
#483 [04:05] <aetherian> in the application data?
#484 [04:05] <Blackscreen> i think
#485 [04:05] <DopeGhoti> Blackscreen: try this:
#486 [04:05] <DopeGhoti> ??> Blackscreen reinst/mac
#487 [04:05] <VoxelHead> Blackscreen: (reinst/mac) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#488 [04:05] <VoxelHead> Blackscreen: (reinst/mac) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#489 [04:05] <DopeGhoti> (you are on a mac, right?)
#490 [04:06] <Blackscreen> yes
#491 [04:06] <aetherian> dopeghoti: you already showed him that...
#492 [04:06] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: several screens ago, while ey wasn't actually here.
#493 [04:06] <Blackscreen> do i do wat voxel said
#494 [04:06] <DopeGhoti> Blackscreen: yes, please.
#495 [04:06] <Blackscreen> ok
#496 [04:07] <Blackscreen> im new with mac so i might be a while
#497 [04:08] <bluescreen> this is my problem : if i have crafted a sign and whant to choose the text thereupon. hello for example ... i can see just ?! if i press done button
#498 [04:09] <DopeGhoti> bluescreen: running any mods at all?
#499 [04:09] <bluescreen> nope
#500 [04:09] <bluescreen> just my own server
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#502 [04:09] <DopeGhoti> Could be a missing font issue
#503 [04:09] <DopeGhoti> could you post a screenshot of this?
#504 [04:09] <bluescreen> but its works in singleplayer
#505 [04:09] <bluescreen> ill try
#506 [04:10] <bluescreen> but how ?
#507 [04:10] <bluescreen> :-/
#508 [04:10] <aetherian> dopefish, bluescreen, other people, I bid thee farewell
#509 [04:10] <aetherian> I must go to bed
#510 [04:10] <DopeGhoti> ciao
#511 [04:10] <bluescreen> cia
#512 [04:10] <Blackscreen> OMFG U FIXED IT
#513 [04:10] <Blackscreen> THANK YOU
#514 [04:10] <Blackscreen> THANK YOOOUUU
#515 [04:10] <DopeGhoti> Blackscreen: that'll be €8 please. (:
#516 [04:10] <aetherian> blackscreen
#517 [04:10] <aetherian> how did he fix it
#518 [04:10] <Blackscreen> paypal or cash
#519 [04:10] <Blackscreen> lol jk
#520 [04:10] <DopeGhoti> Heh
#521 [04:11] <aetherian> Blackscreen: was it the voxel?
#522 [04:11] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: By knowing what do do, and getting the instructions to em?
#523 [04:11] <aetherian> because I bloody told you that multiple times >.>
#524 [04:11] <DopeGhoti> mmm, blood
#525 [04:11] <Blackscreen> wait it stopped the black screen and it like updated but there is no screen haha
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#527 [04:11] <Blackscreen> ill try the client
#528 [04:11] <DopeGhoti> Do.
#529 [04:12] <aetherian> Blackscreen: get a macs for dummies book.
#530 [04:12] <aetherian> really.
#531 [04:12] <Blackscreen> its works!
#532 [04:12] <Blackscreen> yayayayay
#533 [04:12] <DopeGhoti> excellent!
#534 [04:12] <bluescreen> how can i send you a creenshot her eß
#535 [04:12] <bluescreen> here ?
#536 [04:12] <DopeGhoti> bluescreen: upload it to imgur or picasa or dropbox?
#537 [04:12] <aetherian> dcc?
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#539 [04:13] <aetherian> that too, dope
#540 [04:13] <bluescreen> no1 of these programs sorry
#541 [04:13] <bluescreen> but i could install
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#543 [04:14] <bluescreen> but if its a missing font issue .. it wont work in singleplayer too or ?
#544 [04:14] <GLaDOS> OH MY GOD ITS A BLUE SCREEN
#545 [04:14] <DopeGhoti> that's true
#546 [04:15] <GLaDOS> /kick bluescreen NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN
#547 [04:15] <bluescreen> may something with the o
#548 [04:15] <bluescreen> ptions ?
#549 [04:15] <bluescreen> nein ?
#550 [04:15] <bluescreen> wie wo was nein ?
#551 [04:15] <DopeGhoti> bluescreen: for dropbox (which is free), http://db.tt/r9ejm0r
#552 [04:15] <aetherian> glados.
#553 [04:16] <aetherian> you're too late.
#554 [04:16] <GLaDOS> wat?
#555 [04:16] <aetherian> I was calling for you earlier >.>
#556 [04:17] <aetherian> thxkbai
#557 [04:17] <bluescreen> sec
#558 [04:17] <GLaDOS> blame storms
#559 [04:17] * aetherian waves goodbye to aubot
#559 [04:17] * GLaDOS locks aetherian in here
#559 [04:17] <GLaDOS> oh no you dont, slave
#560 [04:17] <aetherian> aaahhhh
#561 [04:17] <GLaDOS> wat did u wants me fer
#562 [04:17] <aetherian> !8ball will aetherian escape?
#563 [04:17] <oracular> Better not tell you now
#564 [04:18] <aetherian> nuuuuu
#565 [04:18] <GLaDOS> :B
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#567 [04:18] <aetherian> glados, I was having trouble with ^^ there
#568 [04:18] <GLaDOS> !8ball will GLaDOS rape aetherian?
#569 [04:18] <oracular> My reply is no
#570 [04:18] <aetherian> blackscreen
#571 [04:18] <aetherian> haha
#572 [04:18] <GLaDOS> aw
#573 [04:18] <GLaDOS> !8ball will aetherian rape GLaDOS?
#574 [04:18] <oracular> Yes
#575 [04:18] <GLaDOS> o_o
#576 [04:18] <aetherian> !8ball is glados a transsexual
#577 [04:18] <oracular> Better not tell you now
#578 [04:18] * aetherian rapes glados
#578 [04:19] <GLaDOS> ow ow ow ow ow
#579 [04:19] <aetherian> waddya mean ow
#580 [04:19] <aetherian> ye're a robot
#581 [04:19] <GLaDOS> wrong part
#582 [04:19] <aetherian> o.o
#583 [04:19] <GLaDOS> thats my power outlet
#584 [04:19] <aetherian> OWWWWWW
#585 [04:19] * GLaDOS guides aetherian to the right socket
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#586 [04:20] <GLaDOS> problem?
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#588 [04:20] <bluescreen> no i install
#589 [04:20] <bluescreen> it
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#591 [04:20] <DopeGhoti> "yay rape humor"
#592 [04:20] <DopeGhoti> :[
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#594 [04:21] * GLaDOS draws myself nude on aetherian's back
#594 [04:21] <GLaDOS> hint: its PERMANENT MARKER
#595 [04:22] <DopeGhoti> Oh no, not permenant marker. That will take minutes to wash off.
#596 [04:22] <GLaDOS> neh, dont worry
#597 [04:22] <GLaDOS> i made an indent in first
#598 [04:22] <GLaDOS> brb preparing laminate sheet to make it stay there, forever
#599 [04:23] <GLaDOS> !8ball is AuBot a derpy?
#600 [04:23] <oracular> Outlook good
#601 [04:23] <GLaDOS> wut
#602 [04:23] <DopeGhoti> Right, well. If no one else needs actual help, I'm heading to bed. Night folks
#603 [04:23] * GLaDOS !8ball im attempting to create a loop with AuBot. will it work?
#603 [04:23] <GLaDOS> nop
#604 [04:23] <GLaDOS> k
#605 [04:24] <GLaDOS> enjoy ur clokin
#606 [04:24] <GLaDOS> fuu
#607 [04:24] <GLaDOS> i did it to help you
#608 [04:24] <VoxelHead> Pttht.
#609 [04:25] <dopeghoti> help? How so?
#610 [04:25] <GLaDOS> !kick VoxelHead sarcasm
#611 [04:25] <GLaDOS> so fags wont privmsg you
#612 [04:25] <bluescreen> dope can you see my screenshot ?
#613 [04:25] <GLaDOS> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21375416/Unbenannt.jpg
#614 [04:25] <bluescreen> sorry glad
#615 [04:25] <bluescreen> calm down
#616 [04:26] <bluescreen> missclick
#617 [04:26] <dopeghoti> A> If I get queried, they get an away message. 2> Why would I care about the sexual preference of someone asking for technical help. three> Nice choice of words there.
#618 [04:26] <GLaDOS> WHY U LITERATE PIECE OF SOMETHING
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#622 [04:27] <Empis_Home> is the beta-server recommend to run on one or two cpu-cores?
#623 [04:27] <GLaDOS> how do i know
#624 [04:27] <dopeghoti> Empis_Home: doesn't matter, Minecraft isn't multithreaded
#625 [04:27] <GLaDOS> im not an official
#626 [04:27] <Empis_Home> running debian 64bit
#627 [04:27] <INsecurity> hello everyone
#628 [04:27] <Empis_Home> dopeghoti: hmm oke
#629 [04:27] <Empis_Home> but its running mutiple processes
#630 [04:27] <GLaDOS> !kick Cake THECAKEISALIE
#631 [04:28] <GLaDOS> hm
#632 [04:28] * ChanServ kicked Cake from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: KICK by Cake (THECAKEISALIE))
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#635 [04:29] <dopeghoti> Cake: stop lying.
#636 [04:29] <INsecurity> does any one know of a model class viewer?
#637 [04:29] <INsecurity> or a way to do it
#638 [04:29] <Cake> fiine
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#640 [04:31] <dopeghoti> Dammit people, stop asking for help; I need to go to bed (:
#641 [04:31] <Empis_Home> :D
#642 [04:31] <feenyx> it's cool
#643 [04:31] <feenyx> I'm at a client's, installing a new server
#644 [04:31] <feenyx> I'll have heaps of time to answer any queries
#645 [04:31] <GLaDOS> WHAT?
#646 [04:32] <GLaDOS> THAT CAKE IS A PIE!
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#648 [04:32] <feenyx> omg
#649 [04:32] <feenyx> it was a typo all along?
#650 [04:32] <GLaDOS> lololololol
#651 [04:32] <GLaDOS> what OS
#652 [04:32] * dopeghoti 's theory is that ŭñdə characters might be causing bluescreen's problem, but he's not sure.
#652 [04:32] <feenyx> 2008 R2
#653 [04:32] <INsecurity> oh hey dopeghoti
#654 [04:32] <feenyx> or should I say
#655 [04:32] <feenyx> GLaD-OS!
#656 [04:32] <INsecurity> was it your thread about running the jar in windows?
#657 [04:32] <INsecurity> told me about it earlier
#658 [04:33] <GLaDOS> Windows server?
#659 [04:33] <dopeghoti> I'm not sure that was me, INsecurity.
#660 [04:33] <INsecurity> got minecraft to run on an acer aspire one
#661 [04:33] <INsecurity> ahh ok
#662 [04:33] <INsecurity> nvm then
#663 [04:33] <INsecurity> haha
#664 [04:33] <dopeghoti> no worries
#665 [04:33] * dopeghoti detatches the screen. Night for real this time!
#665 [04:33] <INsecurity> i am sure you were involved with the laptop convo at least
#666 [04:33] <dopeghoti> *bamf*
#667 [04:33] <INsecurity> lol
#668 [04:34] <GLaDOS> feenyx, son
#669 [04:34] <GLaDOS> are you installing windows server?
#670 [04:35] <feenyx> GLaDOS: I know, I know. You am disappoint?
#671 [04:35] <INsecurity> so yeah any one know of a way to view the model classes
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#673 [04:36] <dlcling> is there a way to get a different minecraft name? for logging and and for multiplayers and things of that sort?
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#676 [04:37] <GLaDOS> dont think about it
#677 [04:37] <feenyx> ^^
#678 [04:37] <dlcling> ??
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#681 [04:41] <bluescreen> no idea dope ?
#682 [04:42] <bluescreen> :/
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#687 [04:47] <INsecurity> oh god i am a moron
#688 [04:47] <INsecurity> nvm
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#693 [05:43] * Kealper yawns
#693 [05:50] * Rait pokes people who aren't afk
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#694 [05:52] * Kealper rawrs
#694 [05:53] * Cake hovers around
#694 [05:53] <Rait> Either of you know any good vanilla servers?
#695 [05:53] <Kealper> http://mcserverlist.net <--- that does
#696 [05:54] <Kealper> although
#697 [05:54] <Kealper> someone recently tried that and could only find whitelisted servers
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#699 [06:01] <Rait> What's the whole whitelist thing again? (read up on it long time ago, don't quite remember)
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#703 [06:16] <mib_226rvm> i buy yesterday and i have receive nothing
#704 [06:16] <mib_226rvm> help please
#705 [06:16] <Kealper> no email?
#706 [06:16] <feenyx> Rait: whitelisting basically means that the server has a list of names that are allowed to connect to it. If you're not on the list, you're not getting one.
#707 [06:17] <feenyx> on*
#708 [06:17] <Kealper> what is the username that you used to buy it on?
#709 [06:17] <mib_226rvm> nunchlee
#710 [06:17] <Kealper> !paid nunchlee
#711 [06:17] <Kealper> :o
#712 [06:17] <mib_226rvm> lol
#713 [06:17] <Kealper> hmm....how long ago did you buy it?
#714 [06:18] <mib_226rvm> yesterday 18h
#715 [06:18] <Kealper> how did you pay for it? credit card or paypal?
#716 [06:18] <mib_226rvm> credit card
#717 [06:19] <Kealper> hmm...
#718 [06:20] <Kealper> and you are positive the payment went through? (you can see that it was paid from your credit card company)
#719 [06:21] <mib_226rvm> i have been the page in minecraft who said me : payment completed
#720 [06:21] <Kealper> hmm....
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#722 [06:21] <bluescreen> hello
#723 [06:22] <bluescreen> hello ... can some1 help me pls .. if i want to set up a crafted sign in a multiplayergame i see just ?! instead of letters
#724 [06:22] <Kealper> i guess there is nothing anyone in here can do then, you will have to send an email to daniel@mojang.com and tell him about the issue...give your username you paid with, and proof that you paid for it
#725 [06:22] <Con> bluescreen, what letters are you trying to type?
#726 [06:22] <mib_226rvm> ok
#727 [06:23] <bluescreen> any text ... hello or .. my chest hands off ....
#728 [06:23] <Kealper> bluescreen: does it happen on all servers? are you on your own server that you run, or is it someone else's server?
#729 [06:23] <bluescreen> no just on my own
#730 [06:23] <Kealper> mods?
#731 [06:23] <bluescreen> singleplayer works fine
#732 [06:23] <bluescreen> no
#733 [06:23] <bluescreen> mods
#734 [06:24] <Kealper> have you re-downloaded the server software?
#735 [06:24] <Kealper> !server
#736 [06:24] <bluescreen> not yet ill try
#737 [06:27] <mib_226rvm> i want to know if we have a transaction id with credit card because i haven't see it
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#739 [06:29] <bluescreen> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21375416/Unbenannt1.jpg
#740 [06:29] <bluescreen> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21375416/Unbenannt2.jpg
#741 [06:29] <bluescreen> still same problem
#742 [06:29] <bluescreen> deleted old serversoftware
#743 [06:29] <bluescreen> loaded new one
#744 [06:31] <Kealper> how do you start your server? are you using the .exe?
#745 [06:31] <bluescreen> y
#746 [06:31] <bluescreen> Minecraft_Server
#747 [06:31] <Kealper> i'll assume that means yes and not why....
#748 [06:31] <bluescreen> .exe
#749 [06:31] <bluescreen> sorry ... yes
#750 [06:31] <Kealper> hmm...
#751 [06:32] <bluescreen> and it works in singleplayer
#752 [06:32] <Kealper> is it just happening on your server or does it do it for you on all of them?
#753 [06:32] <bluescreen> dont have other servers
#754 [06:32] <bluescreen> just my on
#755 [06:32] <bluescreen> *own
#756 [06:32] <bluescreen> and sinlgepalyer
#757 [06:32] <bluescreen> but my mate got the same problem
#758 [06:32] <Kealper> try stopping your server, renaming your server's world folder to world1, then starting your server again
#759 [06:33] <Kealper> that will make the server generate a new world folder, a clean map
#760 [06:33] <bluescreen> sec pls ill try
#761 [06:33] <Kealper> if it works on that, then something is wrong with your map :/
#762 [06:40] <bluescreen> new world old problem
#763 [06:41] <bluescreen> iam still not able to choose a text
#764 [06:43] <bluescreen> are you still here ?
#765 [06:44] <Empis_Home> how do i remove water?
#766 [06:46] <Kealper> whoops...forgot about irc for a few :o
#767 [06:46] <Kealper> Empis_Home: classic or beta?
#768 [06:46] <Empis_Home> beta
#769 [06:46] <Kealper> bluescreen: can i join your server and try it?
#770 [06:47] <Kealper> Empis_Home: just put some dirt or something on the source block of water, the rest will dry up
#771 [06:47] <Empis_Home> oke, thx
#772 [06:48] <bluescreen> y
#773 [06:48] <bluescreen> you can sec
#774 [06:48] <bluescreen> you need ip ?
#775 [06:49] <Kealper> yes, if you don't feel comfortable posting it in here, just PM it to me
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#778 [07:07] <bluescreen> !check
#779 [07:08] <deem> what does disconnect.genericReason means? the genericReason is what i�m curious about :)
#780 [07:12] <INsecurity> is there a single player console command to spawn a creature
#781 [07:16] <Kealper> INsecurity: no
#782 [07:16] <INsecurity> :(
#783 [07:16] <INsecurity> so I have to keep running around untill I find my new mob?
#784 [07:16] <Kealper> deem: since i like being late to respond... it is usually caused by a connection reset by peer error
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#786 [07:17] <deem> thank you :)
#787 [07:17] <Kealper> !check 87.122.30.20
#788 [07:17] <Kealper> bluescreen: works
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#792 [08:00] <fogWraith> Raging bacons!
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#794 [08:01] <fogWraith> Just what I need!
#795 [08:01] * fogWraith picks up Sword and swings it wildly about
#795 [08:01] <fogWraith> Rawr!
#796 [08:02] <Sword> ohai
#797 [08:02] <Sword> anyone here still playing classic?
#798 [08:02] <fogWraith> Nehr, sometimes, why?
#799 [08:02] <Sword> i need help with my server
#800 [08:03] <fogWraith> What's not working?
#801 [08:03] <Sword> whenever i open it, the externalurl file doesn't update anymore and i can't connect to my server
#802 [08:03] <fogWraith> Perhaps because your data is unchanged
#803 [08:03] <fogWraith> Are you trying to connect locally?
#804 [08:03] <Sword> ...unless i turn my server into a public one
#805 [08:04] <Sword> yep
#806 [08:04] <fogWraith> play.jsp?ip=yourip&port=yourport&override=true
#807 [08:04] <fogWraith> That usually works for playing in a browser
#808 [08:04] <fogWraith> Replace variables where required
#809 [08:05] <Sword> how do i find my ip again?
#810 [08:05] <Sword> total noob, sorry
#811 [08:05] <fogWraith> 127.0.0.1 should work if playing locally
#812 [08:06] <fogWraith> If public, well, then head on over to whatsmyip.org
#813 [08:07] <Sword> it says i can't connect that way anymore...and brb, dinner
#814 [08:19] <fogWraith> Damnit, not even when working from home to get some shit done without interruptions are you left alone for even five bloody minutes
#815 [08:21] <Sword> so now i'm back
#816 [08:21] <Sword> from outer space
#817 [08:21] <Sword> wait, what?
#818 [08:22] <fogWraith> What? No, ignore that
#819 [08:22] <fogWraith> Workrelated ;P
#820 [08:23] <Sword> so anyways, the browser says i can't connect that way to the server anymore and loads the single player mode
#821 [08:24] <feenyx> fogWraith: I find the only time I get left alone is when I'm working somewhere other than office/home
#822 [08:25] <fogWraith> Sword: you're logged in right?
#823 [08:26] <feenyx> like today, I'm installing a server at a client's location. My colleagues leave me alone, as do most of my customers, and if they do call, I just forward them to the office phone no#
#824 [08:26] <Sword> yep
#825 [08:26] <fogWraith> feenyx: I like that, I rarely get those opportunities though, last time was 2 weeks ago, new order for a server & installation
#826 [08:27] <fogWraith> Sword: show me the full url you type in there
#827 [08:27] <Sword> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=736d0757cdfbf9eb3cb6d01d9c960a5b
#828 [08:28] <Sword> it leads to a single player mode game
#829 [08:28] <fogWraith> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?ip=127.0.0.1&override=true
#830 [08:28] <fogWraith> You have the standard port set right?
#831 [08:28] <Sword> 25565?
#832 [08:28] <fogWraith> Yes
#833 [08:29] <Sword> your link opened single player...and it's rather weird
#834 [08:29] <Sword> pieces of land are floating and full of holes
#835 [08:31] <fogWraith> Hmm
#836 [08:31] <Kealper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrF4aUPY3jg
#837 [08:32] <fogWraith> RAAAAAAAAGE, my boss is completely and utterly ... I can't even find words to describe it >_O
#838 [08:33] <Sword> i recommend a falcon punch, fog
#839 [08:33] <fogWraith> I'd love to
#840 [08:33] <fogWraith> He keeps bothering me with "I require the administrator login. now."
#841 [08:33] <fogWraith> I keep telling him, his account HAS full rights, but... noooo
#842 [08:34] <Sword> perhaps he wants to log in to CIA or something
#843 [08:34] <fogWraith> Who knows, I'm getting real tired of it
#844 [08:34] <Kealper> o.o
#845 [08:35] <fogWraith> I'll just make him another login that HAS the words "administrator" and "overlord" in it
#846 [08:35] <Sword> all caps for full effect
#847 [08:35] <fogWraith> Mm, yes
#848 [08:35] <Kealper> username: ExtremeOverlordAministratorGuy password: potatochips
#849 [08:35] <fogWraith> or 1234
#850 [08:36] <Sword> haxx tiem
#851 [08:37] <Sword> but anyways, could my problems be related to my setting in the server.properties file?
#852 [08:37] <fogWraith> It could
#853 [08:37] <fogWraith> Pastebin it, for justice!
#854 [08:37] <Sword> don't laugh
#855 [08:37] <Sword> #Minecraft server properties #Thu Feb 17 20:29:00 SGT 2011 verify-names=true admin-slot=true port=25565 public=false server-name=LEGOPORN max-players=16 max-connections=5 motd=FAPFAPFAP grow-trees=false
#856 [08:38] <Sword> legoporn was my friend's idea
#857 [08:38] <fogWraith> What software are you running? :P
#858 [08:38] <Sword> browser?
#859 [08:38] <fogWraith> Server
#860 [08:38] <Sword> cmd.exe
#861 [08:38] <fogWraith> :3
#862 [08:39] <Sword> i've been using it in the past
#863 [08:39] <fogWraith> Set it to online, for fun :P
#864 [08:40] <Sword> how?
#865 [08:40] <fogWraith> OhImeanpublicsorry
#866 [08:41] <Sword> D:
#867 [08:43] <Sword> i'm in, but it's public
#868 [08:44] <fogWraith> Public works locally?
#869 [08:44] <Sword> i connected via the server list
#870 [08:44] <fogWraith> But then... that should ... errors you out
#871 [08:45] <Sword> externalurl.txt doesn't update D:
#872 [08:45] <fogWraith> delete externalurl.txt and start the server again? :P
#873 [08:46] <Sword> it isn't coming back D:
#874 [08:47] <fogWraith> D:
#875 [08:48] <Sword> did you connect?
#876 [08:48] <fogWraith> Nope
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#878 [08:49] <Sword> holy crap, that guy coulda done some damage to my castle
#879 [08:49] <fogWraith> Ban them!
#880 [08:50] <Sword> i closed the server
#881 [08:50] <Sword> darn, what do i do?
#882 [08:50] * fogWraith ponders
#882 [08:51] <fogWraith> Migrate to... say... uh, 'nother non-notch software and import your fancy map there? share it with YARR friends only? :P
#883 [08:51] <nom> hey, i'm getting severe crashing problems ever since i bought the game and updated to 1.202
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#885 [08:52] <nom> i did not have this problem when i had a pirated copy (but i guess that's irrelevent)
#886 [08:52] <fogWraith> It's karma
#887 [08:52] <fogWraith> Either way, try removing your old .minecraft folder
#888 [08:52] <nom> it will be running fine for i would say 5 - 10 minutes, then it will take up up 100% CPU and give an error
#889 [08:52] <fogWraith> I wonder if these weird commands still work
#890 [08:52] <fogWraith> !reinstall
#891 [08:53] <nom> pretty sure i already deleted everything before downloading the new version...
#892 [08:53] <nom> dont think this that's the problem? but i can try again i guess
#893 [08:53] <fogWraith> Had any mods installed?
#894 [08:54] <Sword> tried to reinstall server...no externalurl.txt ):
#895 [08:54] <nom> no, i just installed my first one today to try to see if it would help. the one that does better save files to increase your FPS
#896 [08:54] <nom> it did increase my FPS, but it didn't stop the freezing
#897 [08:54] <fogWraith> What error does it spit out?
#898 [08:55] <Sword> oh, now i'm getting something familiar
#899 [08:55] <fogWraith> What? :P
#900 [08:55] <nom> EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x4f1cc059, pid=2592, tid=2176
#901 [08:55] <nom> that's the main line of the error log
#902 [08:55] <fogWraith> Put everything in a fancy page at pastebin.com
#903 [08:55] <fogWraith> Link it after
#904 [08:55] <Sword> that "failed to assemble heartbeat: java.io.IOException...blablabla" error
#905 [08:56] <nom> do you need the whole error log?
#906 [08:56] <nom> a lot of it just like, lists my background processes
#907 [08:56] <fogWraith> nom: yes please
#908 [08:56] <fogWraith> I don't really care what you're running besides minecraft in this situation
#909 [08:56] <Kealper> nom: a lot of it, yes, but there are parts that let us see what caused the crash
#910 [08:56] <fogWraith> It's not like I'm going to call your mom for watching porn ;P
#911 [08:56] <Sword> i keep getting that message but my server ran fine
#912 [08:56] <Kealper> lol fog
#913 [08:57] <fogWraith> Shityes, Kealper, here to aids me with helps? :)
#914 [08:57] <feenyx> fogWraith: you're gonna call his mom and invite her over to watch porn?
#915 [08:57] * Kealper eats biscuits and gravy
#915 [08:57] <fogWraith> feenyx: a good idea!
#916 [08:57] <Kealper> for a few min fog :P
#917 [08:57] <fogWraith> ;/
#918 [08:57] <Kealper> and by few min i mean 30
#919 [08:57] <fogWraith> Good, now solve the problem Sword has :P
#920 [08:57] <Sword> so, uh, halp?
#921 [08:58] <nom> http://pastebin.com/G6em6za1
#922 [08:58] <Kealper> got an appointment for dentist in an hour, then it's off to the local military base to renew my military ID and get stuff at the on-base store :o
#923 [08:58] <Kealper> Sword: halp with?
#924 [08:59] <Kealper> nom: reinstall your sound card drivers
#925 [08:59] <Sword> i can't connect to my server without making it public
#926 [08:59] <nom> kealper: how did you get tht from the error log?
#927 [09:00] <Kealper> i divined the answer from the heavens
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#929 [09:00] <Sword> externalurl.txt doesn't update
#930 [09:00] <Kealper> but if you wanted the real answer, it crashed trying to do something with OpenAL32.dll, that is what minecraft uses for sound
#931 [09:01] <Kealper> Sword: O.o
#932 [09:01] <nom> thanks, ill try that
#933 [09:01] <Sword> i used to connect that way...now it doesn't work
#934 [09:02] <fogWraith> It's really weird though, since when it's public he can browse the list and connect to it - when the server is local?! ;O
#935 [09:02] <fogWraith> Rawr
#936 [09:02] * fogWraith wields Sword
#936 [09:02] <Kealper> did you set the server as offline or whatever in the config? it has been ages since i've messed with classic
#937 [09:02] <Sword> config?
#938 [09:02] <Sword> server.properties?
#939 [09:02] <Kealper> server.properties
#940 [09:03] <Sword> gonna copypasta the entire thing
#941 [09:03] <Sword> #Minecraft server properties #Thu Feb 17 21:29:56 SGT 2011 verify-names=true admin-slot=true port=25565 public=true server-name=LEGOPORN max-players=16 max-connections=3 grow-trees=false motd=FAPFAPFAP
#942 [09:04] <Kealper> LOL
#943 [09:04] <Kealper> hmm
#944 [09:04] <Sword> the only things i remember messing with in here was the admin slot, public setting, name, and motd
#945 [09:04] <Kealper> i have no idea :/
#946 [09:05] <Kealper> ports forwarded?
#947 [09:05] <Sword> the last one that worked was http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=736d0757cdfbf9eb3cb6d01d9c960a5b
#948 [09:06] <Sword> oh, wtf page scrolled way up without warning
#949 [09:06] <Sword> ports forwarded? dunno what that means
#950 [09:06] <Kealper> Sword: you are hosting from your house, right?
#951 [09:06] <Sword> yep, and connecting to the same pc
#952 [09:07] <Kealper> !check 112.201.215.29
#953 [09:07] <Kealper> hmm
#954 [09:07] <Sword> woah, is that my ip?
#955 [09:07] <Kealper> was it your intent to allow people from outside of your house to play? (friends?)
#956 [09:07] <Sword> nope
#957 [09:08] <Kealper> idk, it should be...type !myip
#958 [09:08] <Sword> !myip
#959 [09:08] <Sword> oh, it is my ip
#960 [09:08] <Sword> only those i invited to my server were allowed in
#961 [09:09] <Kealper> well...right now your server is not even reachable, so the port forward is probably incorrect (did your computer's internal ip change?)
#962 [09:09] <Sword> ...and if you mean my pc, i'm the only guy in the house who plays minecraft
#963 [09:10] <Sword> well, i keep on clicking "repair connection" on control panel since my internet connection randomly disconnects
#964 [09:11] <Kealper> has this server ever worked before?
#965 [09:11] <Sword> and the first thing it says when it does that is "changing ip...something"
#966 [09:11] <Sword> yep, my and my friends have already completed a handful of buildings, actually
#967 [09:12] <Kealper> so you have been inside your router settings before, and added a thing to make it work?
#968 [09:12] <Sword> nope, no hardware changes
#969 [09:12] <Kealper> not what i meant...uhh...
#970 [09:12] <Sword> lol noob answer, sorry
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#972 [09:12] <Kealper> http://portforward.com
#973 [09:16] <Kealper> what has been happening when people try to connect is that your router no longer knows who's computer on your network to connect the person to...so you have to update the router settings so your router knows who's who again
#974 [09:22] <Kealper> meh....about time for me to get ready....stupid dentist -.-
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#976 [09:23] <Sword> D:
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#978 [09:25] <Zanasj> hi. I just checked, that my card has web payment option set to ON, and I've not been billed. so it didn't work. has the web payment server/app been fixed yet?
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#981 [09:33] <Zanasj> I also sent email to the address on minecraft site, but it's been 2 days, no answer
#982 [09:33] <Sword> arg ):
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#984 [09:34] <SFalcon> hi i need some help
#985 [09:35] <Sword> !myip
#986 [09:35] <SFalcon> i need help with my server
#987 [09:35] <Sword> me too, actually
#988 [09:35] <SFalcon> with your server?
#989 [09:36] <Sword> yep
#990 [09:36] <SFalcon> wuts wrong?
#991 [09:36] <Sword> minecraft classic
#992 [09:36] <SFalcon> o i need beta help
#993 [09:36] <Sword> mine won't update externalurl.txt
#994 [09:36] <Sword> what about you?
#995 [09:37] <SFalcon> i just need to figure out if there is a mod for makeing trains im kinda new at this
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#997 [09:37] <SFalcon> it just beacuse my friend blew a huge hole in the ground so i need to make a rail system
#998 [09:38] <SFalcon> !myip
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#1000 [09:41] <SFalcon> anyone know how to install minemania?
#1001 [09:41] <Sword> the mod has no instructions?
#1002 [09:42] <SFalcon> nope
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#1004 [09:54] <Sword> hello?
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#1006 [09:57] <SFalcon> guys
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#1008 [09:57] <SFalcon> can some one please make a cupler
#1009 [09:59] <Sword> cupler?
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#1011 [10:01] <SFalcon> you know how trains stay togehtrer
#1012 [10:01] <SFalcon> they link via cuplers
#1013 [10:02] <Sword> ah, couplings
#1014 [10:02] <Sword> ...or something
#1015 [10:02] <thermi> i'd like to have a "couple tool"
#1016 [10:02] <thermi> :D
#1017 [10:03] <SFalcon> like a mine craft subway
#1018 [10:03] <thermi> you use it on minecarts and it then couples nearby minecarts together
#1019 [10:03] <thermi> you can disconnect them by using the couple tool again :)
#1020 [10:03] <SFalcon> �a i would love that
#1021 [10:03] <SFalcon> or a decoupler
#1022 [10:03] <thermi> well
#1023 [10:03] <thermi> you just use the couple tool again on the carts :D
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#1025 [10:04] <SFalcon> but it would need to be a server mod to
#1026 [10:04] <SFalcon> thats what i want lol
#1027 [10:06] <Sword> seriously, someone help me
#1028 [10:06] <SFalcon> google?
#1029 [10:06] <Sword> google what?
#1030 [10:07] <SFalcon> your problem?
#1031 [10:07] <Sword> not sure that's gonna work, but imma try anyways
#1032 [10:07] <SFalcon> google is your friend
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#1034 [10:10] <SFalcon> is anyone here a moder or game dev?
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#1036 [10:11] <SFalcon> hi
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#1038 [10:12] <SFalcon> anyone
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#1040 [10:13] <Sword> not me, sorry
#1041 [10:17] <xales> ??> SFalcon mods
#1042 [10:17] <VoxelHead> SFalcon: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1043 [10:17] <VoxelHead> SFalcon: (mods) For assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
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#1047 [10:23] <NinjaKirby> I'm digging out a large cavern, above sea level, under my base. Is the best way to keep enemies out, still to coat it with Torches/Fires?
#1048 [10:24] <NinjaKirby> It's barely finished and a Spider already spawned in it, and it has torches in it
#1049 [10:24] <xales> Make sure you have enough torches
#1050 [10:24] <xales> and that the spider didn't just climb in
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#1052 [10:24] <NinjaKirby> lol, I have overhanging Halfsteps everywhere to prevent that. Guess it's a torches thing, thanks
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#1056 [11:01] <Sword> !myip
#1057 [11:05] <Aiglos> Kealper: you there?
#1058 [11:06] <Aiglos> GreyVulpine you there?
#1059 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> ?
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#1062 [11:17] <Aiglos> Hey
#1063 [11:17] <Aiglos> If you remember me, im the one who can login with the browser to minecraft
#1064 [11:17] <Aiglos> tried pw recovery now, does not work eitgher
#1065 [11:17] <Aiglos> either
#1066 [11:18] <Aiglos> only login to minecraft with the browser that is
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#1068 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> hmm
#1069 [11:21] <artsyGaul> Hi
#1070 [11:21] <artsyGaul> Hm. I forgot where I'm meant to go for questions about modding
#1071 [11:22] <artsyGaul> There's a channel for that I think
#1072 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> ?? mods
#1073 [11:22] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1074 [11:22] <VoxelHead> mods: For assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1075 [11:22] <artsyGaul> Hm, thanks
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#1078 [11:24] <xales> Aiglos: still here?
#1079 [11:24] <mib_h0z7li> how do you fix the sound crash on minecraft?
#1080 [11:24] <xales> mib_h0z7li: can you be more specific?
#1081 [11:24] <xales> 'sound crash'?
#1082 [11:24] <mib_h0z7li> The open30.dll thing
#1083 [11:25] <mib_h0z7li> 32 and 64 bit
#1084 [11:25] <mib_h0z7li> trying to turn on sound the java crash
#1085 [11:25] <xales> ?? specific
#1086 [11:25] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#1087 [11:25] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#1088 [11:25] <Aiglos> yes im here
#1089 [11:25] <xales> Aiglos: you can log in on minecraft.net but not in the game itself?
#1090 [11:25] <Aiglos> Xales: im here yeah
#1091 [11:26] <xales> mib_h0z7li: can you pastebin the specific error you get?
#1092 [11:26] <Aiglos> yes that is correct
#1093 [11:26] <Aiglos> i can login via the browser, but only firefox it seems
#1094 [11:26] <mib_h0z7li> no i can but when i go to turn on sound like click it the whole program crahses
#1095 [11:26] <xales> mib_h0z7li: please pastebin the error then
#1096 [11:26] <mib_h0z7li> ya
#1097 [11:26] <xales> Aiglos: what error do you get when you try in other browsers/in the download client?
#1098 [11:27] <mib_h0z7li> http://mibpaste.com/709kz4
#1099 [11:27] <Aiglos> When i try the client i get Login failed, if i try IE i get wrong username or password
#1100 [11:27] <mib_h0z7li> there check it out
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#1102 [11:28] <xales> mib_h0z7li: how old is your computer? is it a laptop?
#1103 [11:28] <Aiglos> i have checked the host file, reinstalled java, deleted the minecraft folder and so on, tried on other computers too, my friend can use the client on my computer
#1104 [11:28] <Aiglos> but i can not
#1105 [11:28] <mib_h0z7li> no but its like a 3 year old dell
#1106 [11:28] <dopeghoti> Aiglos: have you tried.. clearing out and reentering your username and password?
#1107 [11:28] <xales> ??> mib_h0z7li dxdiag
#1108 [11:28] <VoxelHead> mib_h0z7li: (dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1109 [11:28] <VoxelHead> mib_h0z7li: (dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1110 [11:28] <mib_h0z7li> ?
#1111 [11:29] <xales> do that
#1112 [11:29] <Aiglos> Yes, i dont use remember functions
#1113 [11:29] <mib_h0z7li> on what
#1114 [11:29] <xales> ?
#1115 [11:29] <xales> ._.
#1116 [11:29] <mib_h0z7li> dxdiag on what?
#1117 [11:29] <mib_h0z7li> run?
#1118 [11:29] <xales> press the Windows key, and press R
#1119 [11:29] <xales> yes
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#1121 [11:29] <dopeghoti> ??> Aiglos profile/win
#1122 [11:29] <VoxelHead> Aiglos: (profile/win) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1123 [11:29] <VoxelHead> Aiglos: (profile/win) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1124 [11:29] <mib_h0z7li> o right
#1125 [11:29] <mib_h0z7li> then what
#1126 [11:29] <xales> mib_h0z7li: read the directions...
#1127 [11:30] <mib_h0z7li> lol
#1128 [11:30] <mib_h0z7li> ty
#1129 [11:30] <Aiglos> VoxelHead tried that aswell, no go
#1130 [11:30] <xales> Aiglos: VoxelHead is a bot
#1131 [11:30] <Aiglos> lol
#1132 [11:31] <Aiglos> did not know
#1133 [11:31] <Aiglos> im not very familiar with Irc
#1134 [11:31] <xales> Aiglos: so, just to confirm...your account doesn't work, but other's accounts do?
#1135 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> xales, on the client, it doesn't log in
#1136 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> On the browser, it does
#1137 [11:31] <Aiglos> yes, when it comes to the client
#1138 [11:31] <mib_h0z7li> ok some stuffs outdated is there a way to update all sound drivers?
#1139 [11:32] <xales> you said your friend tried it, does his work?
#1140 [11:32] <Aiglos> Firefox works, but not Ie or the client
#1141 [11:32] <xales> mib_h0z7li: you have to find the driver for it on the manufacturer's site
#1142 [11:32] <Aiglos> yes, his works on both his computer and mine
#1143 [11:32] <Aiglos> client and browser
#1144 [11:32] <mib_h0z7li> ok ill check it
#1145 [11:32] <Aiglos> and we tried my gf's computer too, worked for him not me
#1146 [11:33] <dopeghoti> Aiglos: and your accound does _not_ work on another computer. Innnteresting. What is your account name?
#1147 [11:33] <Aiglos> it works in the browser on another computer but not the client, or IE when i say browser i mean firefox
#1148 [11:33] <Aiglos> My account name is Aiglos
#1149 [11:34] <dopeghoti> !paid aiglos
#1150 [11:34] <Aiglos> That i have ofc
#1151 [11:34] <dopeghoti> just checking (:
#1152 [11:34] <dopeghoti> I'm trying to think of things to try that you've not already tried
#1153 [11:34] <Aiglos> i could use the client when i just had bought the game, but it just suddenly stopped working
#1154 [11:34] <mib_h0z7li> litex media WHQL logo'd driver
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#1156 [11:35] <mib_h0z7li> thats the one
#1157 [11:35] <Aiglos> Its quite frustrating :p
#1158 [11:35] <xales> mib_h0z7li: can you follow the instructions and pastebin it
#1159 [11:35] <MertenNor> I want to give myself the green 35 item ? how do I do that xD
#1160 [11:35] <dopeghoti> And you've already removed the .minecraft\bin directory?
#1161 [11:35] <mib_h0z7li> ya
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#1163 [11:35] <MertenNor> I only get wite wen I do: /give MertenNor 35
#1164 [11:35] <xales> MertenNor: you can't
#1165 [11:35] <dopeghoti> MertenNor: try /give MertenNor 35 1
#1166 [11:36] <Aiglos> Yes, iv tried everything
#1167 [11:36] <dopeghoti> (assuming you're an op on the server)
#1168 [11:36] <MertenNor> yes I am
#1169 [11:36] <xales> dopeghoti: can't give yourself colors
#1170 [11:36] <dopeghoti> oh, you want _green_ wool
#1171 [11:36] <MertenNor> well I get item 35 but I want it to be green
#1172 [11:36] <dopeghoti> yeah, fry up some cacti.
#1173 [11:36] <Zanasj> piropiropiro! still no answer. I wonder if I have to enable some more SSL certificates to make it work??
#1174 [11:37] <xales> Zanasj: what?
#1175 [11:37] <mib_h0z7li> http://mibpaste.com/a8HOYr
#1176 [11:37] <Zanasj> xales: in Opera, latest version... I've only got the default factory settings on
#1177 [11:37] <Aiglos> So im guessing you guys are outta ideas?
#1178 [11:37] <dopeghoti> I am, sorry Aiglos
#1179 [11:37] <xales> Zanasj: wait..what's the problem?
#1180 [11:38] <Aiglos> Ah too bad
#1181 [11:38] <xales> mib_h0z7li: you still failed to follow the instructions
#1182 [11:38] <xales> pastebin the entire thing
#1183 [11:38] <Aiglos> i just sent a mail to mojang, maybe they can help
#1184 [11:38] <xales> not the notes
#1185 [11:38] <mib_h0z7li> it asked me to run diagnostic i ran it and it did it u want the whole thing?
#1186 [11:38] <dopeghoti> Can someone stab whoever put up that mibpaste.com site in the face for not using <pre />?
#1187 [11:39] <mib_h0z7li> i saved the check u want it?
#1188 [11:39] <Zanasj> xales: I tried to buy Minecraft on the site, using the app. I've got a credit card (not prepaid), I've enabled web payment options, I have money, and basically... Opera gives me a long error message when I try to pay. I've not been billed
#1189 [11:39] <dopeghoti> ?? error
#1190 [11:39] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message"
#1191 [11:39] <xales> mib_h0z7li: yes, the whole thing
#1192 [11:39] <VoxelHead> error: we need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means;;If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#1193 [11:39] <xales> mib_h0z7li: and don't use mibpaste
#1194 [11:39] <xales> use pastebin.com
#1195 [11:39] <Aiglos> Anyways thanks for trying to help me :)
#1196 [11:39] <xales> as I've already said
#1197 [11:39] <Zanasj> awesome! hold on
#1198 [11:40] <dopeghoti> Zanasj: Also, you might have to call your bank to specifically allow international transactions.
#1199 [11:41] <Zanasj> I see. well anyway, this is it: http://pastebin.com/7n1RYqUd
#1200 [11:41] <xales> Zanasj: try using Paypal
#1201 [11:41] <dopeghoti> Zanasj: that looks like a problem with the CC processor's site I'm afraid.
#1202 [11:41] <Zanasj> ah yes, I've wondered about paypal, but since the SA fiasco, I'm slightly biased against it
#1203 [11:42] <mib_h0z7li> xales what exactly do you need cus the save files too large
#1204 [11:42] <xales> It's not too large
#1205 [11:42] <mib_h0z7li> i put it in and it said too large
#1206 [11:42] <dopeghoti> mib_h0z7li: are you still using the abortion that is mibpaste?
#1207 [11:43] <xales> mib_h0z7li: use http://pastebin.com
#1208 [11:43] <xales> as I have said three times now
#1209 [11:43] <mib_h0z7li> lol i click pastebin and it gives me mibpaste
#1210 [11:43] <mib_h0z7li> sry
#1211 [11:43] <xales> I've said pastebin.com several times
#1212 [11:43] <mib_h0z7li> ok
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#1214 [11:45] <mib_h0z7li> http://pastebin.com/QfaDRiWq
#1215 [11:45] <mib_h0z7li> ther ya go
#1216 [11:45] <mib_h0z7li> lol
#1217 [11:46] <mib_h0z7li> xales have you not seen this problem before? its all over youtube
#1218 [11:47] <xales> I laugh at people who put their problems on Youtube and expecthelp
#1219 [11:47] <dopeghoti> Jaeeus, how many "virtual audio cables" does one computer need?
#1220 [11:47] <mib_h0z7li> no i mean they tryed tutorials seem right i got the sound to turn on but no actual speaker audio?
#1221 [11:47] <xales> mib_h0z7li: is it 32bit or 64bit
#1222 [11:48] <mib_h0z7li> my computers 64
#1223 [11:48] <dopeghoti> do you have the 64-bit Java installed?
#1224 [11:48] <mib_h0z7li> lol i should think lemme check
#1225 [11:49] <xales> Download both of these, and install them - ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/audio/R182906.exe and ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/audio/R157052.EXE
#1226 [11:50] <mib_h0z7li> ok sweet ya but its doesn't say just the latest update i got yesterday
#1227 [11:51] <mib_h0z7li> if this works you should put up tutorials on youtube
#1228 [11:51] <mib_h0z7li> lol
#1229 [11:51] <xales> um...you must be joking
#1230 [11:52] <mib_h0z7li> maybe?
#1231 [11:52] <mib_h0z7li> ya
#1232 [11:53] <mib_h0z7li> am i the last 1?
#1233 [11:54] <mib_h0z7li> INSTALLING NOW
#1234 [11:54] <mib_h0z7li> sry for caps lol
#1235 [11:55] <mib_h0z7li> relax u guys gonna b awhile
#1236 [11:55] <mib_h0z7li> ok computer restart restart later
#1237 [11:55] <Zanasj> it's not possible, right, that Minecraft hasn't been sold out? the beta?
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#1239 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> .... sold out?
#1240 [11:56] <Zanasj> as in out of stock
#1241 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> It's a digital distribution
#1242 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> There is no "stock'
#1243 [11:56] <nevercast> LOL
#1244 [11:56] <nevercast> Hey Grey :)
#1245 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1246 [11:56] <nevercast> How'r' you?
#1247 [11:56] <mib_h0z7li> the second one isnt working
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#1249 [11:57] <mib_h0z7li> say there nothing installed
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#1251 [11:57] <xales> that's ok
#1252 [11:57] <xales> then don't install it
#1253 [11:57] <mib_h0z7li> ok lol
#1254 [11:57] <mib_h0z7li> ill try the game hold on
#1255 [11:57] <xales> you need to restart
#1256 [11:57] <xales> as the thing told you
#1257 [11:58] <mib_h0z7li> ya lol hold on im gonna bookmark
#1258 [11:58] <mib_h0z7li> brb
#1259 [11:58] <xales> please try to follow directions ._.
#1260 [11:58] <nevercast> lol.
#1261 [11:58] <xales> and don't use Mibbit
#1262 [11:58] <nevercast> <3
#1263 [11:58] <xales> if you must, don't use the default name
#1264 [11:58] <nevercast> noobs eh, xales?
#1265 [12:00] <Zanasj> ok, South Park is on 30 minutes, see you later guys
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#1267 [12:01] <nevercast> .... Bai
#1268 [12:01] <nevercast> God damn I'm hung over and don't want to be going to course toay
#1269 [12:01] <nevercast> *today
#1270 [12:01] <xales> lol
#1271 [12:01] <nevercast> --- Tired, Cold, Hungry.. Tired... Groggy and a headache.
#1272 [12:01] <nevercast> Remember kids, Don't drink on a Thursday
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#1274 [12:04] <slimer> omg not working
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#1276 [12:04] <dopeghoti> ?? specific
#1277 [12:04] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#1278 [12:04] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#1279 [12:05] <slimer> xales the restart didn't work
#1280 [12:06] <slimer> whens the game supposed to be finished?
#1281 [12:07] <dopeghoti> When it's done
#1282 [12:07] <nevercast> ^
#1283 [12:07] <xales> Finished?
#1284 [12:08] <xales> I'm guessing that whatever tutorial you followed had a part in making it not work
#1285 [12:08] <slimer> have you guys heard alot about the audio crash?
#1286 [12:08] <xales> The 'audio crash' is very easy to fix
#1287 [12:08] <slimer> maybe?
#1288 [12:08] <xales> It's a driver problem
#1289 [12:08] <xales> I'm guessing whatever you did on Youtube is now why it isn't working
#1290 [12:10] <slimer> same crash no difference
#1291 [12:11] <xales> What did youtube have you do?
#1292 [12:11] <slimer> i delete some stuff but I went into recycle and restored it it did nothing
#1293 [12:11] <dopeghoti> "some stuff" helpful descriptors there
#1294 [12:11] <slimer> should i just reinstall the exe?
#1295 [12:12] <slimer> how do I keep the maps I made tho?
#1296 [12:12] <xales> 'reinstall the EXE' <-- lol
#1297 [12:12] <xales> ?? reinst/win
#1298 [12:12] <dopeghoti> ??> slimer win/reinst
#1299 [12:12] <VoxelHead> slimer: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1300 [12:12] <VoxelHead> slimer: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1301 [12:12] <slimer> reinstall using the exe
#1302 [12:12] <dopeghoti> reinstall using the _directions_.
#1303 [12:13] <slimer> ok
#1304 [12:14] <slimer> lol crash
#1305 [12:15] <slimer> tried that
#1306 [12:15] * dopeghoti suspect the 14 "virtual audio cable"s you have installed.
#1306 [12:15] <dopeghoti> +s
#1307 [12:16] <slimer> voxel any more ideas?
#1308 [12:16] <VoxelHead> I don't exist.
#1309 [12:16] <xales> VoxelHead is a bot.
#1310 [12:16] * VoxelHead is shocked. Shocked!
#1310 [12:16] <slimer> lol hes better than u
#1311 [12:17] <slimer> u havent said anything
#1312 [12:17] <VoxelHead> Meddle not in the affairs of ops, for you are crunchy and go well with catsup.
#1313 [12:18] <VoxelHead> Xales, does this guy really think you've not beel helpful? Seriously?
#1314 [12:18] <xales> ^
#1315 [12:18] <dopeghoti> Augh, my immersion!
#1316 [12:18] <VoxelHead> Aparrantly
#1317 [12:19] * VoxelHead activates split-personality module.
#1317 [12:19] <slimer> ok im gonna play black ops with my bro
#1318 [12:19] * VoxelHead kicked slimer from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Have fun!)
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#1320 [12:20] <nevercast> lol
#1321 [12:20] <mib_5fdt2v> im BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1322 [12:20] * xales kicked mib_5fdt2v from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Nope)
#1323 [12:20] <xales> fuck yes
#1324 [12:20] <xales> new banscript
#1325 [12:20] <xales> works epic
#1326 [12:20] <nevercast> Ohh yeah :D
#1327 [12:21] <nevercast> Wait what does it do?
#1328 [12:21] <xales> It bans by their ident, which most people don't expect
#1329 [12:21] <xales> and it kicks them first, so they can't see how they got banned
#1330 [12:21] <nevercast> Very nice
#1331 [12:22] <nevercast> I've got an XChat setting for that
#1332 [12:22] <nevercast> KickBan *!*user@*.host
#1333 [12:22] <nevercast> But it's not as cool as a script
#1334 [12:23] <dopeghoti> irssi has /knockout
#1335 [12:23] <xales> /knockout is a temporary ban
#1336 [12:24] <xales> it's a /kickban that unsets itself
#1337 [12:24] <nevercast> You got /knock'd the fuck out
#1338 [12:24] <nevercast> :D
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#1340 [12:28] <xales> hurray
#1341 [12:28] <xales> internet routing fail
#1342 [12:28] <xales> inb4 split
#1343 [12:32] <NinjaKirby> I got Creepers making suicide pacts, there is always two dead in various positions on a hill, stuck orange tinted
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#1345 [12:32] <NinjaKirby> Or Ghosts, from one's I've killed mebe
#1346 [12:33] <NinjaKirby> Must have been a Happy Couple, spirits lingering
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#1350 [12:35] <NinjaKirby> lol, someone in response to my comment on a YouTube video, "[..] I just called Nintendo [..]"
#1351 [12:35] <xales> lol
#1352 [12:35] <NinjaKirby> He called up, Nintendo.
#1353 [12:36] <dopeghoti> right; ey has Myamato on speed-dial. *snrk*
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#1355 [12:37] * NinjaKirby speed dials an Assasin for hire
#1355 [12:37] <NinjaKirby> We got another Troll.
#1356 [12:37] <NinjaKirby> Get to work.
#1357 [12:39] <NinjaKirby> Damn I'm hungry, afkage
#1358 [12:42] <nevercast> afkage also'
#1359 [12:42] <nevercast> Course time
#1360 [12:42] <nevercast> With a hang over
#1361 [12:42] <nevercast> ++
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#1365 [12:44] <Gecko1986> if I host a server, can I reuse my 'sp' world?
#1366 [12:47] <xales> Gecko1986: yes
#1367 [12:47] <xales> ?? smp/savefiles
#1368 [12:47] <VoxelHead> smp/savefiles: Yes, you can use your single-player world as a mutliplayer map (or vice versa). Just make the world= line in server.properties match the name of the directory the world you want to use is in.
#1369 [12:47] <VoxelHead> smp/savefiles: To use an SMP save in single-player, copy or rename the world directory to "world#" (where '#' is a number from one to five), and use that save slot in single-player.
#1370 [12:48] <Gecko1986> thx! :)
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#1372 [12:49] <rockstartyler> !check 98.95.169.127:25565
#1373 [12:50] <dopeghoti> Whee, off to hospital, then work
#1374 [12:51] <NinjaKirby> Hospital? Nothing serious I hope T_T
#1375 [12:52] <dopeghoti> GF's maternal ancestor once removed is in for cardiac issues.
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#1378 [12:52] <NinjaKirby> ... I kind of understand, do not feel the requirement to explain it to me further though. Save journeys though :)
#1379 [12:53] <NinjaKirby> DERP, Safe even
#1380 [12:53] <dopeghoti> thanks, NinjaKirby.
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#1382 [12:54] <Alexxx> any nody here?
#1383 [12:54] <Alexxx> *body
#1384 [12:54] <NinjaKirby> I god, I think I toppled FireFox, don't open two tabs of Domino's Pizza website is the lesson learned
#1385 [12:54] <LRWerewolf> Alexxx, Only us chickens someone stuffed into an egg harvester.
#1386 [12:55] * NinjaKirby clucks
#1386 [12:55] <NinjaKirby> "Puck puck puckaw", lol
#1387 [12:55] <Alexxx> i need help becouse the server list on minecraft.net wont show up i have just a blank site...
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#1389 [12:55] <Mariu5> HELP!
#1390 [12:55] <Mariu5> Oh, wait, lemme explain my problem first..
#1391 [12:55] <NinjaKirby> :3
#1392 [12:56] <Alexxx> anybody can help me
#1393 [12:56] <Alexxx> >
#1394 [12:56] <Alexxx> ?
#1395 [12:56] <Mariu5> Well, I got a Linux server on a remote location (VPS company) and I have ran a Minecraft server there for a long time, but when I woke up today, people complained.
#1396 [12:56] <Mariu5> They couldn't connect to my server.
#1397 [12:57] <dopeghoti> ??> Alexxx smp/serverlist
#1398 [12:57] <Mariu5> I have tried anything, even tried running a clean, vanilla server. Nothing helped. I, nor others can connect to the server.
#1399 [12:57] <dopeghoti> ??> Alexxx smp/servers
#1400 [12:57] <LRWerewolf> NinjaKirby, you for got the '... POP!'
#1401 [12:57] <VoxelHead> Alexxx: (smp/servers) This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#1402 [12:57] <VoxelHead> Alexxx: (smp/servers) You can also ask in #SMP; there are often server admins there looking for new players.
#1403 [12:57] <dopeghoti> Mariu5: what happens when you try to connect?
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#1405 [12:57] <NinjaKirby> LRWerewolf XD
#1406 [12:57] <dopeghoti> (I have a few minutes before I go, so I may as well help)
#1407 [12:57] <Mariu5> I get "connection refused: connect" and nothing in console.
#1408 [12:58] <dopeghoti> Mariu5: is the server running?
#1409 [12:58] <Mariu5> Well, I see the console
#1410 [12:58] <Mariu5> And its saying the normal stuff
#1411 [12:58] <dopeghoti> Mariu5: does it respond to commands?
#1412 [12:58] <Mariu5> Yes
#1413 [12:58] <dopeghoti> okay, on the server's command line, run 'netstat -plnt'
#1414 [12:58] <Alexxx> dope i meant the offical server site not the beta serers
#1415 [12:59] <Mariu5> While the server is running? @dopeghoti
#1416 [12:59] <dopeghoti> Alexxx: "official server"?
#1417 [12:59] <dopeghoti> Mariu5: yes.
#1418 [12:59] <Mariu5> Alright
#1419 [12:59] <dopeghoti> pastebin the results if you could
#1420 [12:59] <Alexxx> the minecraft.net/servers.jps
#1421 [12:59] <Alexxx> i just have a blank site
#1422 [12:59] <dopeghoti> ??> Alexxx win/hosts
#1423 [12:59] <VoxelHead> Alexxx: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1424 [12:59] <VoxelHead> Alexxx: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1425 [13:00] <Gecko1986> http://minecraft.net/servers.jsp looks down to me :P
#1426 [13:00] <Alexxx> ^ to you too>
#1427 [13:00] <dopeghoti> !isdown http://www.minecraft.net
#1428 [13:00] <Alexxx> ?
#1429 [13:01] <GreyBot> dopeghoti: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1430 [13:01] <Gecko1986> ohnoez!
#1431 [13:01] <dopeghoti> well, that explains a lot.
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#1433 [13:01] <Mariu5> dopeghoti: Alright, my server is running (I see it at "top" and it responds to commands)
#1434 [13:01] <Mariu5> Let me get the netstat
#1435 [13:01] <Alexxx> g uyz i am not such a dumbass to give mine HOST files
#1436 [13:01] <Gecko1986> err
#1437 [13:02] <Gecko1986> normally
#1438 [13:02] <dopeghoti> Alexxx: um. okay. I don't think the host file does what you think it does, Alexxx.
#1439 [13:02] <Gecko1986> it doesnt contain anything 'secret'
#1440 [13:02] <Gecko1986> dumbass...
#1441 [13:02] <Gecko1986> ;p
#1442 [13:02] <Mariu5> dopeghoti: http://pastebin.com/uznAimQf
#1443 [13:02] <dopeghoti> Gecko1986: be nice
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#1445 [13:02] <Gecko1986> soz
#1446 [13:02] <Gecko1986> I was just trying to be sarcastic :P
#1447 [13:02] <dopeghoti> ah, okay
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#1449 [13:02] <Mariu5> dopeghoti: YES I know its on 25566 ;P
#1450 [13:02] <dopeghoti> ??> Mariu5 java/ipv6
#1451 [13:02] <VoxelHead> Mariu5: (java/ipv6) Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#1452 [13:02] <VoxelHead> Mariu5: (java/ipv6) -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#1453 [13:02] <Frostie> ahoy, is there a way to get rid of the version number being displayed on minecraft? I've been playing on a plasma tv and the damn thing seems to be getting imprinted >.<
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#1455 [13:03] <dopeghoti> Frostie: not that I know of
#1456 [13:03] <aetherian> hey
#1457 [13:03] <Mariu5> dopeghoti: Ill try that, thanks.
#1458 [13:03] <Gecko1986> frostie, demand more updates, so it changes more often :P
#1459 [13:03] <dopeghoti> Mariu5: good luck
#1460 [13:03] <Alexxx> http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#1461 [13:04] <Alexxx> works for you guys?
#1462 [13:04] <Mariu5> dopeghoti: Added before minecraft_server.jar or after nogui?
#1463 [13:04] <Gecko1986> no
#1464 [13:04] <Gecko1986> ie its down as stated previously :P
#1465 [13:04] <dopeghoti> Mariu5: make those the first two arguments
#1466 [13:04] <Alexxx> damn it
#1467 [13:04] <Mariu5> Alright
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#1469 [13:05] <Mariu5> AY!
#1470 [13:05] <Mariu5> Dayyym! Youre not dumb mate!
#1471 [13:05] <dopeghoti> I do waht I can
#1472 [13:05] <Mariu5> But now im getting the response code 503 for URL thingy ;)
#1473 [13:05] <dopeghoti> that's from minecraft.net being down; once it's back up, you should be all set mate
#1474 [13:05] <Mariu5> Thanks, <3
#1475 [13:05] <dopeghoti> that'll be £5 (:
#1476 [13:05] <Mariu5> Haha, I would..
#1477 [13:06] <Mariu5> If I had money
#1478 [13:06] <dopeghoti> no worries
#1479 [13:06] <Gecko1986> I had £5, but notch ate it :(
#1480 [13:06] <dopeghoti> heh
#1481 [13:07] <Mariu5> dopeghoti: Btw, my original server with a rebuildt version of hMod (worked just fine yesterday) doesnt seem to load hMod now.
#1482 [13:07] <dopeghoti> that, I can't help you with
#1483 [13:07] <dopeghoti> ?? mods
#1484 [13:07] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1485 [13:08] <VoxelHead> mods: For assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1486 [13:08] <Mariu5> Ah well
#1487 [13:08] <Mariu5> Ill just try to fix it when Notch moves his servers to Google..
#1488 [13:08] <Mariu5> Wish he would ,)
#1489 [13:08] <dopeghoti> he's going to Rackspace, which is almost as good (:
#1490 [13:08] <Mariu5> Well, when?
#1491 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Two Weeks™
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#1493 [13:09] <dopeghoti> "Real Soon Now®"
#1494 [13:09] <Mariu5> I heard rumours of Amazon?
#1495 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Amazon is what they're on now
#1496 [13:09] <dopeghoti> that's where the site(s) are now.
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#1498 [13:09] <Mariu5> Yeah thats what I thought
#1499 [13:09] <Mariu5> Crappy whit
#1500 [13:09] <Mariu5> If it was me, I would host it in Sweeden
#1501 [13:09] <Mariu5> ;)
#1502 [13:10] <dopeghoti> that's what he was doing until we all melted his hometown datacenter.
#1503 [13:10] <Mathuin> So I'm looking over how ore is generated, and apparently dirt and gravel are generated as ore. Is this for real?
#1504 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> A hosting service with a CDN is better
#1505 [13:10] <Mariu5> Build a bigger one
#1506 [13:10] <Mariu5> He is making money
#1507 [13:10] <Mariu5> Using it on trips around the world.
#1508 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes, because money solves everything
#1509 [13:10] <dopeghoti> He'd need a lot more then €1,300,000 to build an entire new peering datacenter.
#1510 [13:11] <dopeghoti> s/then/than/
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#1512 [13:12] <Mariu5> Sounds like you know all about that?
#1513 [13:12] <dopeghoti> I don't know "all" about anything, but I know a bit, yes.
#1514 [13:13] <Mariu5> Atleast its good to know that my datacenter has started to use IPv6 ;)
#1515 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> Heh, started?
#1516 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry.
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#1518 [13:14] <Mariu5> The shit is that once Minecraft.net goes down, the whole game is "dead"
#1519 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Can still play SP, and server admins only need to do "online-mode=false"
#1520 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> So, no, not "dead"
#1521 [13:16] <Mathuin> Eh, if SMP servers whitelist -- and they do -- it's sorta dead.
#1522 [13:16] <Mathuin> And no skin! oooooh nooooo :-)
#1523 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> [01:06.17pm] <Mariu5> If I had money
#1524 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> [01:15.30pm] <Mariu5> Ive been open for 2 weeks, Ive gotten a total of $100
#1525 [13:17] <dopeghoti> Mariu5: re: IPv6 implementation: http://twitter.com/#!/IPv4Countdown/status/33174459619737600
#1526 [13:17] * GreyVulpine yawns
#1526 [13:18] <Mariu5> Its called "using it"
#1527 [13:18] <Mariu5> Ive had to upgrade the server twice
#1528 [13:19] <Gecko1986> its bak up fyi
#1529 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> And yet, you rag on Notch because he's not using his money at all
#1530 [13:20] <Gecko1986> was
#1531 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> He's told us that everything that minecraft makes, goes straight to his company
#1532 [13:20] <Gecko1986> ;p
#1533 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> You imply that he takes trips with it, and spends friviously
#1534 [13:20] <Mathuin> So does anyone here have any inside knowledge on how Notch and company generate ore in new chunks? Other than the forum thread which was cited on the wiki?
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#1537 [13:22] <dopeghoti> Mathuin: I think it's Java-based.
#1538 [13:23] <Mathuin> dopeghoti: Okay. Does anyone know any of the algorithms, or are we all inferring data based on observation here?
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#1540 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Mathuin - I'd take a look at the BiomeTerrain mod, see if there's anything in there
#1541 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> They do mess around with the algorithm for terrain generation and ores
#1542 [13:24] <Mathuin> GreyVulpine: I'm trying to avoid looking at anyone's code just yet, just trying to learn how it works.
#1543 [13:25] <Mathuin> I know OreGen has output people like.
#1544 [13:26] <NinjaKirby> Why hasn't Egoraptor done an AwesomeCraft, it must be in production, surely.
#1545 [13:27] <Mathuin> And really, dirt and gravel? as ores?
#1546 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Why wouldn't it?
#1547 [13:28] <Mariu5> Anyony got a precompiled bukkitmod for meh
#1548 [13:28] <NinjaKirby> I hate those patches of Dirt you find near Bedrock -_-
#1549 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Mariu5 - #bukkit
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#1552 [13:40] <Mathuin> Also, does anyone here know if c10t can render stone transparent?
#1553 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> No idea
#1554 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#1555 [13:41] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1556 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> Great
#1557 [13:41] <fogWraith> Lucky me I'm already signed in to my server!
#1558 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Hah, sequential art did a minecraft strip
#1559 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> http://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php
#1560 [13:46] <fogWraith> Truth ;P
#1561 [13:49] <NinjaKirby> lol, great strip
#1562 [13:51] <Smokey> Hey, I searched the forums and the wiki but didn't find an answer. In multiplayer I have no sound when opening/closing an iron door or activating pressure plates. These sounds work in singleplayer though. Has anyone the same problem?
#1563 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Can't say I've experienced that
#1564 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Tried reinstalling Smokey?
#1565 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> ?? reinst/win
#1566 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> er, dang bot
#1567 [13:53] <Smokey> Hm, I have this problem only in SMP
#1568 [13:53] <NinjaKirby> Really? I experience that all the time, I've heard some others too with it
#1569 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#1570 [13:54] <Smokey> SSP works perfect
#1571 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> ?? reinst/win
#1572 [13:54] <Mathuin> If you exit SMP and jump back in single player does it work again?
#1573 [13:54] <fogWraith> I really never reflected upon it, but no, I don't have sounds for those either in SMP
#1574 [13:54] <Smokey> yes
#1575 [13:54] <Mathuin> Fascinating.
#1576 [13:54] * GreyVulpine stabs VoxelHead
#1576 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> I know you have that command
#1577 [13:54] <fogWraith> Who has what command? :P
#1578 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead's being mean, and not giving me the windows reinstall instructions
#1579 [13:55] <NinjaKirby> lol... OS reinstall? Surely not
#1580 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> No, not OS reinstall
#1581 [13:55] <NinjaKirby> Gonna say XD I would never do that for a game
#1582 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft reinstall instructions for windows
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#1584 [13:56] <NinjaKirby> lol, ah ha~
#1585 [13:56] <ep> hello
#1586 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> IE, %appdata%, delete .minecraft
#1587 [13:56] <Smokey> So the sounds should work in SMP normally?
#1588 [13:56] <fogWraith> !reinstall
#1589 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Apparently I'm the odd man out, I have those sounds in SMP
#1590 [13:56] <fogWraith> That one works too, you know
#1591 [13:56] <ep> minecraft.net seems to be down for me, though isminecraftdown.net reports it as working - just a problem on my end?
#1592 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#1593 [13:56] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1594 [13:56] <NinjaKirby> Never have for me Smokey, I just live with it
#1595 [13:56] <Smokey> I didn't reinstll because I have all sounds in SSP and all other sounds in SMP work
#1596 [13:57] <Mariu5> So fun, NOTCH!
#1597 [13:57] <ep> thanks
#1598 [13:57] <ep> !isdown minecraft.net
#1599 [13:57] <GreyBot> ep: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1600 [13:57] <ep> I like GreyBot
#1601 [13:57] <Mariu5> :P
#1602 [13:57] <ep> ok well I'll keep my eye on it, hopefully just a temporary problem
#1603 [13:58] <ep> thanks!
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#1605 [13:59] <fogWraith> Hmm, I should definately consider adding another group to my server... someone just asked to be "motherator"
#1606 [13:59] <fogWraith> I have no idea what that is
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#1608 [14:00] * GreyVulpine adds "motherator", no building rights, no placement right, and can't jump
#1608 [14:01] <fogWraith> Sounds good ;)
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#1611 [14:11] <NinjaKirby> Servers really don't like Daisey Chains of TNT, it seems
#1612 [14:12] <NinjaKirby> I have a vibrating oversized white block of TNT remaining
#1613 [14:12] <Mariu5> Notch doesnt like servers
#1614 [14:12] <NinjaKirby> taw
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#1618 [14:22] <darcfaint> руские есть ?
#1619 [14:23] <the_late_man> o.o
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#1621 [14:25] <NinjaKirby> I agree with darcfaint, a display of incredible wisdom
#1622 [14:28] <Mariu5> !isitup minecraft.net
#1623 [14:28] <AnarchoiD> i played warez 1.2.01 now i bought minecraft and the official client 1.2.02 often going "not responding" state in single or multiplayer (in the warez version i run the game for weeks without quit... and crashes)
#1624 [14:29] <AnarchoiD> any hint ? :)
#1625 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Don't pirate?
#1626 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> More seriously though, did you completely wipe the contents of the warez version
#1627 [14:32] <AnarchoiD> i didi but i give a try for
#1628 [14:32] <Mariu5> GreyVulpine: Are you capable of logging in to Minecraft?
#1629 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> Have not tried
#1630 [14:32] <Mariu5> Seems down from here
#1631 [14:33] <Gecko1986> service unavailable
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#1633 [14:33] <Gecko1986> didnt they move to amazon for this kind of thing? :p
#1634 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1635 [14:33] <Mariu5> Fucking shit
#1636 [14:33] <Mariu5> Amazon isnt good enough for them=
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#1638 [14:40] <Shadow386> its sad, amazon cant even handle this -_-
#1639 [14:40] <dopeghoti> Amazon: Good for books, bad for hosting.
#1640 [14:40] <Shadow386> that's about it lol
#1641 [14:41] <Shadow386> why not just get a nice dedicated server that's meant to handle shit like this
#1642 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Their dedicated couldn't handle it
#1643 [14:41] <Shadow386> I know that, im just saying
#1644 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> They had to switch to a cloud, with a cluster of servers behind a load balancer
#1645 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> and it's STILL doing it
#1646 [14:41] <Shadow386> which is sad, but proves that minecraft is awesome
#1647 [14:42] <Shadow386> just wish they'd put more effort into finishing the game before working on another
#1648 [14:42] <Shadow386> and mojang.com...doesn't look that appealing. :< just putting my 2 cents worth
#1649 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Where are they saying they're stopping development on minecraft?
#1650 [14:44] <Shadow386> i didnt say that :P
#1651 [14:44] <Shadow386> he said he has one of the people working on the new game i believe in a twitter post
#1652 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Exactly
#1653 [14:45] <Shadow386> if he had the full team working on it and finishing it, they'd be able to work on the next game.
#1654 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Two other people are working on a totally seperate game
#1655 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Two
#1656 [14:45] <Shadow386> im not trying to flame or anything, I believe they do deserve breaks
#1657 [14:45] <Shadow386> but since he hired the team and that paypal issue, updates have been brought down to once a month/every two-three months
#1658 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> They don't have a pool of developers to work from here. If Notch hired them to work on a seperate game, that's his decision
#1659 [14:46] <Shadow386> i know, and again, im not trying to flame. just wish it to be done already so we dont have the fear of losing stuff to updates :P
#1660 [14:46] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1660 [14:46] <dopeghoti> Shadow386: They're working on getting hosting set up with Rackspace (an excellent provider), and this time they're making the transition "right, not quick"
#1661 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> I completely understand where you're coming from here
#1662 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> It's just these things take time
#1663 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> And since minecraft became popular..
#1664 [14:47] <Shadow386> that's actually quite nice to hear
#1665 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Notch has other responsibilities to attend to, as well as his mental health here
#1666 [14:47] <Shadow386> mhm
#1667 [14:47] <Shadow386> i hate seeming like a dick in these things xD
#1668 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Hey, your argument is valid, don't take me wrong.
#1669 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> At least it isn't with a voice of an entitlement bastard, which we hear all the time around here.
#1670 [14:48] <Shadow386> LOOOOOLZ z0mg n0tch iz soooo gayyyy. i paid 4 gaem, I want fixxxxed sh1t naooooo
#1671 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Exactly
#1672 [14:49] <Shadow386> Ye-no. Im not that kind of idiot.
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#1674 [14:49] <raupy> hi
#1675 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1676 [14:49] <raupy> I've got a problem
#1677 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Indeed you must, for you have come to #MineCraftHelp
#1678 [14:49] <Shadow386> I have a server where there's lots of kiddies visit and beg for shit. it's only a little percentage of what notch deals with, but so aggravating
#1679 [14:50] <raupy> Sometimes I've a blank page when I load the page minecraft.net in firefox. In Internet Explorer it's fine (Sorry for my bad English, but I'm German)
#1680 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is currently experiencing technical difficulties, check back again in a bit
#1681 [14:51] <Shadow386> minecraft.net has a lot of errors at the moment for 100,000's of people connecting at once, causing an overload
#1682 [14:51] <raupy> Some people I met have the problem since a few days
#1683 [14:51] <Shadow386> aka, too many people.
#1684 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, raupy, it's only just recently that the page is down
#1685 [14:51] <raupy> But why is the a blank page, no error?
#1686 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> We couldn't tell you.
#1687 [14:52] <raupy> Oh, ok. When does the pageg get more servers, so the will be no blank page anymor?
#1688 [14:52] <raupy> *e
#1689 [14:52] <raupy> Do you know?
#1690 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> When Notch and his team decide to migrate to a different provider
#1691 [14:54] <dopeghoti> raupy: that's being worked on right now, but Mojang has given no ETA
#1692 [14:54] <raupy> ok thx, i thought that I'm or my computer is the problem xD But why did it work in IE, but not in FF? (Now it works in FF) And what is a ETA?
#1693 [14:54] <Shadow386> when Duke Nukem: Forever is released
#1694 [14:55] <Shadow386> or Half-Life chapter 3 is done
#1695 [14:55] <raupy> ? sorry I can't understand it 'cause i'm German xD
#1696 [14:55] <raupy> can you explain it?
#1697 [14:55] <dopeghoti> ETA: Estimated Time of Arrival (or completion)
#1698 [14:55] <Shadow386> what im saying is, whenever they decide to. they havent told us
#1699 [14:55] <Smokey> Well, I reinstalled Minecraft and tried other servers, but I still don't have the sound of the iron door and the pressure plates in multiplayer. Who has the same problem or knows how to fix it?
#1700 [14:55] <Shadow386> Smokey its normal
#1701 [14:56] <Shadow386> doors with redstone have no sound either
#1702 [14:56] <raupy> ok bye, but my redstone door has a sound... thanks
#1703 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> http://yfrog.com/h298wcej
#1704 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Wow that is a big steve head
#1705 [14:56] <Shadow386> lol
#1706 [14:57] <Smokey> raupy, in multiplayer?
#1707 [14:57] <Smokey> nm
#1708 [14:57] <Shadow386> he prob meant single player
#1709 [14:57] <Shadow386> he german so he no understand
#1710 [14:57] <Smokey> thanks Shadow, I was wondering, because wooden doors have a sound in smp...
#1711 [14:57] <Shadow386> but they dont with redstone
#1712 [14:57] <Shadow386> ;D
#1713 [14:58] <Smokey> K, didn't test that :)
#1714 [14:58] <Shadow386> i have a server where they try to find everything wrong with it and we find lots of stuff
#1715 [14:58] <Shadow386> so we report them when necessary unless others have :D
#1716 [14:58] <Smokey> If other players open wooden doors I hear no sound either, another thing that should get fixed
#1717 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> All in due time
#1718 [14:58] <Shadow386> there's lots of things, but we can be patient
#1719 [14:59] <Shadow386> sound isn't of great importance
#1720 [14:59] <Shadow386> if anything, we can use our own noises.
#1721 [14:59] <Smokey> Yeah, but it adds up
#1722 [14:59] <Shadow386> PEWPEWPEW
#1723 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it adds up to this game is still in development, and is in no way a finished product
#1724 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Everything will get fixed in due time
#1725 [15:00] <Smokey> I know, I play this game since September.
#1726 [15:00] <Shadow386> if im calculating, notch has made roughly over $20 million USD
#1727 [15:00] <Smokey> But there is so much potential left and thus the development can't be fast enough in my opinion :)
#1728 [15:00] <Shadow386> correctly*
#1729 [15:01] <Smokey> Minus taxes.
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#1731 [15:01] <Shadow386> Sweden has different taxes
#1732 [15:01] <Shadow386> I think
#1733 [15:01] <Shadow386> plus paypal taxes
#1734 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Mojang isn't Valve, or EA, or any of the other big name corps out there with a million coder pool
#1735 [15:01] <Shadow386> so about $15 million USD anyways
#1736 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Things will get done, when they have the manpower
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#1738 [15:01] <Shadow386> GreyVulpine funny thing about that though
#1739 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1740 [15:02] <Shadow386> hundreds of users have made mods that are extremely helpful
#1741 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Sure.
#1742 [15:02] <Shadow386> if he imported things that others have made in there, there would be a lot more awesome
#1743 [15:02] <Smokey> Yes, definately
#1744 [15:02] <Shadow386> but he choosing his own action, and I respect that
#1745 [15:02] <Smokey> *definitely
#1746 [15:03] <Smokey> I'm waiting for smooth stone stairs
#1747 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Indeed, but once he starts adding things in that are now kosher, where does he stop? Where does his ideas for Minecraft end, and what we want as fans start?
#1748 [15:03] <Shadow386> No clue
#1749 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> People want mo'creatures to be in completely, I think it's just a bad idea
#1750 [15:04] <Shadow386> I hope he does still plan to release the code once he's gotten his fair share from it like his original plans were
#1751 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is still Notch's IP, and I respect the time that he's put into it.
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#1753 [15:05] <Shadow386> only things I like, are the things me and my friends suggested. like the chips that are being added, water gates, and a map that can be crafted on paper like the minimap mod, but is in inventory
#1754 [15:05] <Shadow386> Agreed
#1755 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> I know talk of a water/flood gate were talked about..
#1756 [15:05] <Shadow386> I asked him in twitter, he said yes
#1757 [15:05] <Shadow386> l3
#1758 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Even came up in a minecraft convention, and he confirmed it there
#1759 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Also trapdoors
#1760 [15:06] <Shadow386> hell yes
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#1762 [15:07] <Smokey> Was there any hint, that the zombie mob would be reworked? I mean all other enemy mobs have an unique feature, but zombies are bland.
#1763 [15:07] <Shadow386> things that SHOULD be added for the use of helpfulness, compactibility, and against mobs: trap doors, floodgates, maps, microchips.
#1764 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Did you see the delay blocks?
#1765 [15:08] <Shadow386> i called them microchips
#1766 [15:08] <Shadow386> lol
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#1768 [15:09] <Shadow386> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bVemrIfcv4&feature=feedu
#1769 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> Nah, be nice if real IC blocks came into MC
#1770 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> integrated logic gates that are self contained in one block
#1771 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> Really don't expect Notch to put in redstone crafting tables though.
#1772 [15:10] <Shadow386> that would be really REALLY epic
#1773 [15:10] <Mariu5> help: Setuping Permissions anyone? :P
#1774 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> This really isn't the channel for that Mariu5
#1775 [15:10] <Shadow386> would bring down the 8bit pc to like, less then a few thousand blocks lol
#1776 [15:10] <Mariu5> Oh yeah, shit.
#1777 [15:10] <Mariu5> Lol.
#1778 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> Sorry.
#1779 [15:11] <Shadow386> but man should I like mini-gates
#1780 [15:11] <Shadow386> hm
#1781 [15:12] <dopeghoti> IC blocks would be nigh-impossible
#1782 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> One could hope
#1783 [15:12] <dopeghoti> unless you are ok with a limit of four I/O ports.
#1784 [15:12] <Shadow386> what would be funny, is if graphics had three mods, fast, fancy, and betterlist. lol
#1785 [15:12] <Shadow386> dopeghoti if it made redstone areas much smaller, I'd take the chance.
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#1787 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Well, 6 if you tie in up and down
#1788 [15:13] <Shadow386> right now, those can take up a large amount of space if you try anything
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#1791 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> But even just an IC block with a multiplexer at the end.
#1792 [15:14] <Shadow386> brb
#1793 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> Oooo... new DF version.
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#1796 [15:14] <the_late_man> kumquats
#1797 [15:15] <dopeghoti> anything significant, GreyVulpine?
#1798 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=77431
#1799 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> It's been a while since I've played DF significantly, so I don't really know what major dev arc he's on right now
#1800 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Huh, honey bees..
#1801 [15:18] <Shadow386> how about http://i.imgur.com/Bmh4I.png for a miniature 5 way repeater?
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#1803 [15:18] <Shadow386> just throwin out random stuff
#1804 [15:18] <dopeghoti> "The site finder records the best hit in each square now, and you can stop the finder at any time and browse the results." My god, this changes *everything*
#1805 [15:19] <empiremen1> Hi my question is where can i change my email adress or delete my account? to creat a new one?
#1806 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Just create a new one...
#1807 [15:19] <dopeghoti> empiremen1: to create a new account, just do so. You cann't change your email address at this time.
#1808 [15:19] <empiremen1> when can i change it?
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#1810 [15:19] <Shadow386> when they add it.
#1811 [15:20] <Shadow386> along with name changing
#1812 [15:20] <Shadow386> woot
#1813 [15:20] <empiremen1> ah ok thx
#1814 [15:20] <dopeghoti> If and when Mojang decides to implement that feature.
#1815 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> They removed the ability to change emails when people's accounts got hacked
#1816 [15:20] <Mathuin> Can someone recommend a good mapping program that will show me where the ores are in my world?
#1817 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> changed password, and email addresses... and there was no way to recover it short of emailing mojang
#1818 [15:20] <Shadow386> perhaps set up a better profiling and security system?
#1819 [15:20] <Shadow386> Mathuin that's kinda pointless
#1820 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Well, if you've got an idea, mollstram is the guy to talk to
#1821 [15:21] <Mathuin> Shadow386: it's actually extremely valuable in helping me test my ore-placement code.
#1822 [15:21] <Mathuin> I could probably just use mce to convert stone to air.
#1823 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Secure logins (https) was just recently implemented
#1824 [15:21] <Shadow386> well if its a mod you're developing, im not sure if this is the place to talk about it
#1825 [15:21] <Mathuin> Shadow386: it's not a mod, it's a terrain generator.
#1826 [15:21] <dopeghoti> Mathuin: mcmap can search for specific ores, and c10t can 'slice' Y-levels.
#1827 [15:21] <Mathuin> dopeghoti: thanks!
#1828 [15:22] <Shadow386> there was a mapper a while back that displayed whatever block type you specified
#1829 [15:22] <dopeghoti> Both on github; good luck
#1830 [15:22] <Shadow386> or that lol
#1831 [15:22] <Shadow386> a terrain generator, isnt that still considered a type of mod?
#1832 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> We're just fast and loose about the rule about mod talk.
#1833 [15:22] <Mathuin> Shadow386: no. I just build a world, and play it like normal.
#1834 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> If we can help, we'll gladly do so.
#1835 [15:23] <dopeghoti> Shadow386: map generators are not mods.
#1836 [15:23] <dopeghoti> er, s/generators/renderers/
#1837 [15:23] <Shadow386> meh
#1838 [15:23] <Shadow386> lol
#1839 [15:23] <dopeghoti> oregen, OTOH, would be a mod.
#1840 [15:23] <Shadow386> i like to throw my 2 cents worth all over the place :3
#1841 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> If it's something more involved, or if one of us doesn't want to take the time to delve into it..
#1842 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> The rule is there to save us the headache
#1843 [15:23] <Shadow386> like minecraft sourc
#1844 [15:23] * dopeghoti is thinking of putting VoxelHead into #minecraft.
#1844 [15:23] <Shadow386> source*
#1845 [15:23] <Shadow386> lol
#1846 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, don't think bots really are welcome in #minecraft
#1847 [15:24] * dopeghoti is no longer thinking of putting VoxelHead into #minecraft.
#1847 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> There was some... friction over xales and Kealper's bots when they moved it to #minecraft
#1848 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> It's no longer there
#1849 [15:25] * DopeGhoti nods
#1849 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> I was thinking more for the FAQs than anything else; I don't even _want_ to be an op in that cesspool
#1850 [15:25] * GreyVulpine nods
#1850 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> (if I were, I'd be sending everyone to #mcchatter, heh)
#1851 [15:27] <Shadow386> what happened to AuBot in #minecraft?
#1852 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> I don't recall off the top of my head
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#1854 [15:28] <MDanz> hi
#1855 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Was during the whole bot attacks
#1856 [15:28] <MDanz> is this the help placE?
#1857 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Aubot was brought over to try to detect and lock down the channel.
#1858 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Didn't exactly work as planned
#1859 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> MDanz - Yes
#1860 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> How may we assist you?
#1861 [15:29] <MDanz> yes
#1862 [15:29] <MDanz> well i have just bought the game
#1863 [15:29] <MDanz> about
#1864 [15:29] <MDanz> 1-2 hrs ago
#1865 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Okay..
#1866 [15:29] <MDanz> and when i logg in on my account it says user is not premium
#1867 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> Sometimes it takes a while for transactions to be fully processed.
#1868 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> Give it at least a few more hours.
#1869 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1870 [15:30] <MDanz> but what i rely want to do is go on survival servers but i cant if im not premium can i?
#1871 [15:30] <MDanz> oh ok
#1872 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Right MDanz
#1873 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> You will be (:
#1874 [15:30] <MDanz> cool thanks
#1875 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> And congratulations on your wise and tasteful purchasing decision.
#1876 [15:30] <MDanz> how will i know whne i am?
#1877 [15:30] <MDanz> will i get a message or anything?
#1878 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> MDanz: when you log into the site, you will no longer see the "Now 25% off" red splat thingy
#1879 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> that's the most visually apparent indicator
#1880 [15:31] <MDanz> ok thanks
#1881 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#1882 [15:31] <MDanz> and one more thing
#1883 [15:31] <Mathuin> MDanz: you could spend time customizing a skin while you wait. That's what I did. :-)
#1884 [15:31] <MDanz> how easy is it to make a survival server?
#1885 [15:32] <MDanz> and how do i customize my skin?
#1886 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> If you know any smidge of networking, it's very easy
#1887 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Download the server at
#1888 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> !server
#1889 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> If you're behind a router, port forward 25565/TCP to your computer
#1890 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Done
#1891 [15:33] <MDanz> ahhh
#1892 [15:33] <MDanz> i always have troubel port forwarding
#1893 [15:33] <MDanz> i do what all sites say but never works
#1894 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Any one of us here can help you with that
#1895 [15:33] <MDanz> ok
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#1897 [15:33] <MDanz> i have BT Homehub thoguh
#1898 [15:33] <NinjaKirby> If you have a Sky router I can understand why, biggest pile of junk Sagem Router
#1899 [15:33] <NinjaKirby> Ah thank god, lol
#1900 [15:34] <MDanz> lol
#1901 [15:34] * NinjaKirby said his bit
#1901 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Is "BT homehub" something we need to look out for?
#1902 [15:34] <MDanz> its a router
#1903 [15:34] <NinjaKirby> XD Not heard customers complain about that one
#1904 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Simple search doesn't bring up any complaints.
#1905 [15:35] <MDanz> i might've just been doing wrong
#1906 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> I'm seeing the config pages aren't that spectacular, but it's doable
#1907 [15:35] <MDanz> im not sure
#1908 [15:35] <MDanz> you got team viewer?
#1909 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Sure do
#1910 [15:35] <MDanz> can you come on and help me do?
#1911 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> Is Team viewer the new CrossLoop or something?
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#1913 [15:35] * GreyVulpine nods
#1913 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Just easy.
#1914 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> sigh
#1915 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Been using TV for years
#1916 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> s'pose I should look into it then
#1917 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> It cross-platform or Windows-only?
#1918 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> cross-platform
#1919 [15:36] <Mathuin> ... what's cross-loop?
#1920 [15:36] <MDanz> ive got it open now
#1921 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Works on everything from macs to windows to android devices
#1922 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> and more
#1923 [15:36] <MDanz> and ill be 1 min girlfriend need somthing
#1924 [15:37] <Shadow386> giggity
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#1926 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> MDanz - If you could PM me with your Teamviewer info, I can start
#1927 [15:37] <Mathuin> What _is_ it though.
#1928 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> /msg GreyVulpine stuffhere
#1929 [15:37] <Mathuin> This teamviewer/crossloop stuff.
#1930 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Mathuin - ?
#1931 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> !wiki teamviewer
#1932 [15:37] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeamViewer
#1933 [15:37] <GreyBot> TeamViewer is a computer software package for remote control, desktop sharing, and file transfer between computers. The software operates with the Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, iOS, and Android. It is possible to access a machine running TeamViewer with a web browser. While the main focus of the application is remote control of computers, collaboration and presentation features
#1934 [15:37] <GreyBot> are included.
#1935 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> RDP
#1936 [15:37] <Mathuin> Fascinating.
#1937 [15:37] <Shadow386> why isn't GreyBot +v?
#1938 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Greybot's been having problems.
#1939 [15:38] <Shadow386> oh?
#1940 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Meh
#1941 [15:38] <Mathuin> http://i.imgur.com/8GsPJ.png <-- my first ore placement output. Dirt and gravel are ores.
#1942 [15:38] <Shadow386> and one thing I've always found funny, is if you say good bot, GreyBot does this
#1943 [15:38] <Shadow386> aw doesnt do it anymore
#1944 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Greybot's an old bot that's with me for years, programmed in mIRC
#1945 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Tried to update it, and it's been throwing exceptions now, I think one of the scripts might be affecting it
#1946 [15:39] <MDanz> back
#1947 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> MDanz - If you could PM me with your Teamviewer info, I can start
#1948 [15:39] <Shadow386> brb
#1949 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> /msg GreyVulpine stuffhere
#1950 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> Huh. Looks neat enough to check out.
#1951 [15:41] <Mathuin> http://imgur.com/Ebp9B -- first ore placement, no dirt, no gravel.
#1952 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - It can be used as a standalone client, launched straight from the installer.
#1953 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Or you can choose to install it as well.
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#1955 [15:46] <Mathuin> Can you guys look at those images and tell me whether they look sane for a 100x100 map, or is it overpopulated?
#1956 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> center-heavy, no?
#1957 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> should ores not be concentrated downward?
#1958 [15:53] <Mathuin> That's the bottom half of the zone. It's actually 100x100x128 but only the bottom half was filled with stone and thus eligible for oreification.
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#1962 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> right, but that imagae shows everything clustered toward the center, which is unnatural
#1963 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> unless your ore is magnetite
#1964 [15:56] <allsuffocation> hey guys, i need some help. i'm running on mac ox s (snow leopard) and I STILL can't get my sound to work. (since alpha even!) Also I cannot get my minecraft.app to launch properly, I end up opening the "minecraftlauncher.jar" file only. any ideas on how to fix these?
#1965 [15:57] <fogWraith> Damn you minecraft, feel the wrath of my internets!
#1966 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> allsuffocation: what happens when you try to run the app?
#1967 [15:58] <allsuffocation> it nudges a little in my dock then goes away.
#1968 [15:59] <allsuffocation> my java is up to date and i've reinstalled a bunch of times.
#1969 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> ?? mac/permissions
#1970 [15:59] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1971 [15:59] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1972 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> that should fix the app not working
#1973 [15:59] <allsuffocation> okay, i'll try that now.
#1974 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> as for the sound, are you getting any errors, or just.. now sound?
#1975 [16:00] <allsuffocation> no sound whatsoever.
#1976 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> I presume other apps' sound works?
#1977 [16:02] <allsuffocation> yeah, everything else works fine. My sliders are up to 100% and nothing. I've tried that command+s and it didn't fix it.
#1978 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> Did that command give you an error?
#1979 [16:02] <allsuffocation> no, it just doesn't do anything as far as I can tell.
#1980 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> ?? mac/reinst
#1981 [16:03] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1982 [16:03] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1983 [16:04] <allsuffocation> okay, that sounds like it might do something but I'm trying to do this thing on termimal, and it telling me "chmod: /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub: No such file or directory"
#1984 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> Did you put the Mincraft app into your Applications folder?
#1985 [16:04] <allsuffocation> yeah, it's in my applications folder.
#1986 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> okay, we'll do it step-by-step
#1987 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> in the terminal: cd /Applications/Minecraft.app
#1988 [16:05] <allsuffocation> OH. it seems to be opening now.
#1989 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> Oh?
#1990 [16:05] <allsuffocation> yeah, I tried double clicking it and it opened.
#1991 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> \o/
#1992 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> that's promising
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#1994 [16:06] <allsuffocation> Going to see if it'll run. :]
#1995 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> good luck
#1996 [16:06] <aetherian> \o/, it's when you finally get the ball in the cup in that one annoying game >.>
#1997 [16:06] <aetherian> what are those things called...
#1998 [16:07] <allsuffocation> hm.. it lets me log on, goes black and then crashes. lol.
#1999 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> allsuffocation: did you do the local file reinstallation yet?
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#2001 [16:08] <allsuffocation> yeah i did
#2002 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> Hrm.
#2003 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> ?? mac/profile
#2004 [16:09] <VoxelHead> mac/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2005 [16:10] <VoxelHead> mac/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2006 [16:11] <allsuffocation> okay. I'll go do that, but i think logging out will x me out of this window. but i'll go try that.
#2007 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> we'll still be here.
#2008 [16:11] <allsuffocation> thanks! hope this works.
#2009 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> me too
#2010 [16:11] <aetherian> did you just write that one?
#2011 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> which? mac/profile?
#2012 [16:12] <aetherian> haven't seen it before
#2013 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> it's similar to win/profile.
#2014 [16:13] <aetherian> haven't seen that one yet
#2015 [16:13] <aetherian> I should make a txt of all the help things, for when everyone is bloody away >:
#2016 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> http://mchelp.darksigns.net/faqindex
#2017 [16:14] <aetherian> :O
#2018 [16:14] <aetherian> not that I know what they all do
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#2020 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, pirated client, which doesn't add itself to hosts
#2021 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> That's a new one
#2022 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> More of them are self-explanatory
#2023 [16:15] * aetherian tries every single one
#2023 [16:15] <aetherian> :D
#2024 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: What's it do? Proxy? Local DNS server?
#2025 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea
#2026 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: if you must, try them in ##VoxelHead
#2027 [16:15] <aetherian> hehehe
#2028 [16:15] <aetherian> just uh
#2029 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Probably modified client
#2030 [16:15] <aetherian> what's 1k do?
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#2032 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> explains the 1k barrier
#2033 [16:15] <aetherian> ...ah
#2034 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> But he logged in, popped up the "unable to access minecraft.net" error, and went straight to the mojang splash page
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#2036 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> that does sound like a modified client
#2037 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> hosts file was clean
#2038 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: did you clear out %AppData% and re-download the launcher?
#2039 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> But he says he paid for it, so just gotta wait.
#2040 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> I did clear out %appdata%
#2041 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> (it could also be a modified launcher)
#2042 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Client then stopped at User is not premium
#2043 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Didn't go further
#2044 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> So, thinking it's something with the launcher, or a "fix" in the %appdata% folder somewhere
#2045 [16:18] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2045 [16:20] <aetherian> I have to say, loiter here a couple days, and you will just about never need any help with minecraft.
#2046 [16:20] <aetherian> everyone has the same/similar question(s)
#2047 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#2048 [16:20] <aetherian> yay for being on too much :D
#2049 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> It was one of the reasons why I stuck around back then
#2050 [16:20] <aetherian> back when
#2051 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> September-ish
#2052 [16:21] <aetherian> hum
#2053 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> ??index
#2054 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> \o/
#2055 [16:21] <aetherian> ??!
#2056 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> ??index
#2057 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#2058 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> I know
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#2060 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Gimme a list, damn you. I hate switching windows
#2061 [16:21] <aetherian> wait... I have a bad feeling about ?? google
#2062 [16:22] <aetherian> o.o
#2063 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> but at least it's available. I'll make it actually give you the list soon.
#2064 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Mrah
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#2066 [16:22] <aetherian> there's no irc/register thing >:
#2067 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> aetherian irc
#2068 [16:23] <VoxelHead> aetherian: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#2069 [16:23] <VoxelHead> aetherian: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#2070 [16:23] <aetherian> that's not good enough
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#2073 [16:23] * GreyVulpine installs trojang on aetherian's computer and registers nickname for him?
#2073 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> er, trojan.
#2074 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> damn you mojang.
#2075 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> anyone that needs more specific help with general IRC usage can, as mentioned, go to #help.
#2076 [16:23] <aetherian> I've had people do either /msg nickserv register help, or /msg nickserv help register, and they still don't get it.
#2077 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Too much text, brain shuts down
#2078 [16:24] <aetherian> they're all like, 'but wat do i tyep'
#2079 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> ah, selective literacy.
#2080 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Noob syndrome.
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#2082 [16:24] <allsuffocation> Alright. Back! no luck, it kept going black and crashing when I double clicked it. It now also likes to crash when I open it throught launcher.jar though.
#2083 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Or rather, "Gimme answer now, I don't like reading"
#2084 [16:24] <aetherian> I mean, what can you say to a guy who can't follow those instructions
#2085 [16:24] <aetherian> well, /msg nickserv register help is short.
#2086 [16:25] <aetherian> and I g2g for now
#2087 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> allsuffocation: hmm. When it crashes, you get no error?
#2088 [16:25] <allsuffocation> Well it gives me the purple screen with code in it, usually.
#2089 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> 'code'?
#2090 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> could you pastebin that?
#2091 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> purple screen?
#2092 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> or put up a screenshot?
#2093 [16:27] <allsuffocation> http://imgur.com/pqU81
#2094 [16:27] <allsuffocation> that pops up, the usual crash thingie.
#2095 [16:27] <allsuffocation> do you want me to paste the text in that box?
#2096 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Please do
#2097 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com
#2098 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> yes, but use pastebin; don't paste it here (:
#2099 [16:27] <MDanz> GreyVulpine i dont know is there a way to turn off pvp on the server?
#2100 [16:27] <allsuffocation> http://pastebin.com/fAWdiXDt
#2101 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Yes MDanz, it's a text file that you need to edit
#2102 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> server.properties
#2103 [16:28] <MDanz> ok thanks
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#2105 [16:28] <MDanz> what should i open it with?
#2106 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> notepad
#2107 [16:28] <MDanz> notepad?
#2108 [16:28] <MDanz> ok
#2109 [16:28] <bruce00j> can anyone help me with WOM client?
#2110 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> bruce00j - We don't provide support here for third party clients
#2111 [16:29] <bruce00j> ok
#2112 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> allsuffocation: do you have any texture packs?
#2113 [16:29] <MDanz> do i just type fale were pvp is?
#2114 [16:29] <MDanz> false*
#2115 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> yes MDanz
#2116 [16:29] <MDanz> ok
#2117 [16:29] <allsuffocation> I do, but they worked fine before.
#2118 [16:29] <allsuffocation> I can take them out.
#2119 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> allsuffocation: try removing them
#2120 [16:29] <MDanz> what about server ip
#2121 [16:29] <MDanz> do i type in my ip?
#2122 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> leave server-ip blank
#2123 [16:29] <MDanz> ok
#2124 [16:30] <MDanz> what about level name?
#2125 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> also leave that as default
#2126 [16:30] <MDanz> ok
#2127 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> level-name points to the name of the folder, where the world is
#2128 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> (or will be)
#2129 [16:31] <MDanz> ok
#2130 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> If you look in your server's directory, you'll see a folder called 'world'
#2131 [16:31] <MDanz> so just pvp
#2132 [16:31] <MDanz> to false
#2133 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> If you wish to turn off pvp, then yes.
#2134 [16:31] <MDanz> ok thanks
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#2136 [16:31] <allsuffocation> Well removing the texture packs resulted in it actually opening up. *but*, this is from the minecraftlauncher.jar, not just double clicking the app.
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#2138 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> minecraftlauncher.jar?
#2139 [16:31] <aetherian> o.o
#2140 [16:32] <allsuffocation> yeah... because i can't launch the app from just clicking on it, i have to launch it from the laucher jar file. (i'm on Mac)
#2141 [16:32] <allsuffocation> lol
#2142 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Why.. can't you launch the app by double clicking on it?
#2143 [16:32] <allsuffocation> I have no idea. It nudges in my dock a little... and then nothing.
#2144 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#2145 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> allsuffocation: let's try again to fix that
#2146 [16:33] * GreyVulpine nods
#2146 [16:33] <allsuffocation> yeah, we should. lol
#2147 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> Where did you install Minecraft.app to?
#2148 [16:33] <allsuffocation> it's in my applications folder.
#2149 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> _your_ Applications folder, or the _System's_?
#2150 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> well.
#2151 [16:34] <allsuffocation> Er... well the system one. where my iwork and stuff is.
#2152 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> either way, you ahve a terminal open, yes?
#2153 [16:34] <allsuffocation> uh, yes i can get it open now.
#2154 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> `cd /Applications/Minecraft.app`
#2155 [16:34] <allsuffocation> do i need to type the ' ?
#2156 [16:34] <aetherian> remember the `
#2157 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> no
#2158 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> no, please don't.
#2159 [16:35] <allsuffocation> oh ok.
#2160 [16:35] <aetherian> it's a ` not a '
#2161 [16:35] * GreyVulpine stabs aetherian
#2161 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: hush, you're not helping
#2162 [16:35] <allsuffocation> lol
#2163 [16:35] <allsuffocation> Okay! got the.
#2164 [16:35] <aetherian> ow ow ow
#2165 [16:35] <allsuffocation> that.
#2166 [16:35] <allsuffocation> gives me a "Samis-MacBook-Pro:Minecraft.app sami$ "
#2167 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> `cd Contents/MacOS`
#2168 [16:35] <allsuffocation> i'll take that as a good sign
#2169 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> indeed
#2170 [16:35] <allsuffocation> okee
#2171 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> `chmod +x JavaApplicationStub`
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#2173 [16:36] <allsuffocation> okay, it didn't seem to do much, but got that in.
#2174 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> good!
#2175 [16:37] <allsuffocation> anything else?
#2176 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Now try double clicking on the minecraft.app
#2177 [16:37] <DopeGhoti> try launching the app from the Applications folder in the dock!
#2178 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> ...
#2179 [16:38] <allsuffocation> oh! It seems to have worked. Getting the blue mojang screen!
#2180 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> Wahey!
#2181 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Whee
#2182 [16:38] <allsuffocation> omggg
#2183 [16:38] <allsuffocation> sound!
#2184 [16:38] <allsuffocation> sound!!!
#2185 [16:38] <allsuffocation> I hear noises!
#2186 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> You must have mistyped it when you tried it the first time as one command
#2187 [16:38] <allsuffocation> :D
#2188 [16:38] <allsuffocation> I must have.
#2189 [16:38] <allsuffocation> Thank you! like thanks a billion. you solved all my minecrafty problems! i'm so excited! yay!
#2190 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> #MineCraftHelp is pleased to have been of assistance. Donations are not required, but are welcomed.
#2191 [16:39] * GreyVulpine snerks
#2191 [16:39] <allsuffocation> <3 thanks guys.
#2192 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> My pleasure
#2193 [16:39] <allsuffocation> you've been a million times more helpful than the forums.
#2194 [16:39] <VoxelHead> Mine too.
#2195 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> that's.. not surprising.
#2196 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> We try to be
#2197 [16:39] <allsuffocation> haha.
#2198 [16:40] <allsuffocation> well i guess i will go enjoy my new sound and clickable minecrafts.
#2199 [16:40] <allsuffocation> <3
#2200 [16:40] <allsuffocation> bye!
#2201 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> have fun!
#2202 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> \o
#2203 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> Another satisfied customer.
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#2205 [16:40] <MDanz> WOOOOOOOOOOOOO IM PREMIUM!!!
#2206 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> Whee
#2207 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: you can stop hushing now if you like.
#2208 [16:40] <Mathuin> *cheer*
#2209 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> And looks like esper's having another fit
#2210 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> like that's anything new.
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#2212 [16:43] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Kurin
#2213 [16:44] <Kurin> Hi everyone, this is really bugging me. If I use the web version everything is fine, but if I use the downloadable version, after a while (ten minutes to two hours) the screen will go black and the program will not respond. I have to kill it and then restart it. Any ideas what is causing it? I'm on windows 7, latest version of java, 64bit windows, 32bit java, 3.2Ghz quadcore, nVidia graphics cards.
#2214 [16:44] <Kurin> Hello, DopeGhoti.
#2215 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> Kurin: install 64-bit java, for starters
#2216 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> then
#2217 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> Kimax win/reinst
#2218 [16:45] <VoxelHead> Kimax: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2219 [16:45] <VoxelHead> Kimax: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2220 [16:45] <DopeGhoti> ..sorry, that was for Kurin
#2221 [16:45] <Mathuin> Kurin: the last time that happened to me, it was due to a hardware issue -- dustbunnies the size of rhinos in my graphics card fans.
#2222 [16:45] <aetherian> huh buh wha
#2223 [16:45] <aetherian> dopefish, I was just doing english work
#2224 [16:46] <Kurin> DopeGhoti, I'll try installing 64bit, but the reinstall hasn't helped. And it's not heating issues, Mathuin. Minecraft uses barely any of my GPU power.
#2225 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> no, but it works the _C_PU like a god.
#2226 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> er, dog.
#2227 [16:46] <Mathuin> Kurin: mine was 99.95% occluded. Anything more than Ubuntu's compiz effects made it cry.
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#2230 [16:46] <Kurin> DopeGhoti, Not really. I barely pull 10%
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#2232 [16:46] <Mathuin> Is the Minecraft client multi-threaded? I seem to recall it only exercising one of my four cores.
#2233 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2234 [16:47] <Kurin> does minecraft utilize SLI at all?
#2235 [16:47] <Arkose> no
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#2237 [16:47] <DopeGhoti> Kurin: if your video drivers do, yes. It just makes OpenGL calls with your GPU(s) would then handle
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#2239 [16:48] <Arkose> SLI doesn't quite work that way.
#2240 [16:48] <Kurin> SLI calls still need to be made.
#2241 [16:48] <Mathuin> I haven't used SLI since my Voodoo2's.
#2242 [16:48] <DopeGhoti> Nor I; since then one GPU has been enough for me
#2243 [16:48] <Arkose> Voodoo 2 SLI is not the same thing despite having the same name. :)
#2244 [16:50] <Gecko1986> its weird how MCP is condoned @ forum :P
#2245 [16:50] <Gecko1986> just found out about it, it just made my day
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#2247 [16:51] <Kurin> if installing 64bit java doesn't fix it, does anyone else have any suggestions? I ask because it will take a while for it to happen again.
#2248 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> Kurin: I had a couple of ideas, yes.
#2249 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/reinst
#2250 [16:52] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2251 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Windows 7, I take it you're running a pretty new system?
#2252 [16:52] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2253 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/profile
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#2255 [16:52] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2256 [16:52] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2257 [16:52] <Kurin> Dope: As I said before, Ive already tried reinstalling.
#2258 [16:53] <Mathuin> I hadn't heard the profile tip. Good to know.
#2259 [16:53] <Kurin> GreyVulpine, AMD Phenom II x4 955 (3.2Ghz), 4GB ram at 1666. dual GTS250 in SLI. Yes, new.
#2260 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> Nice CPU, that.
#2261 [16:53] <Mathuin> Is that similar to the i7?
#2262 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> Apples and Bananas.
#2263 [16:54] <Kurin> I dunno, I don't really follow Intel.
#2264 [16:54] <Mathuin> I know the i7 is apples-and-bananas with my Q6850.
#2265 [16:54] <Mathuin> But I fell out of the loop on CPUs a while back.
#2266 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> Last time I really followed CPUs closely, you could still overclock AMD CPUs with a pencil.
#2267 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Hah, same
#2268 [16:55] <Mathuin> And I'm looking for a sub-$1k system that'll play Minecraft and CivV and crunch numbers like a mofo. :-P
#2269 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: Macbook Air
#2270 [16:55] <Mathuin> Can that really outperform quad-core desktop CPUs?
#2271 [16:55] <Mathuin> ... and how well does it run Ubuntu? :-)
#2272 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> Quite well actually
#2273 [16:56] <Mathuin> Sweet.
#2274 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> and depending on what you do with it, yes.
#2275 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> if you need more horsepower, I'd go with a Macbook Pro though
#2276 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> more $ obviously
#2277 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> but more horsepower as well
#2278 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> (you can get the 15" with an i7)
#2279 [16:56] * GreyVulpine gags
#2279 [16:56] <Mathuin> I'm kinda capped at $1k, and found a nice quad-core i7 system with like 8G of RAM.
#2280 [16:57] <MDanz> GreyVulpine in my server i cant build / take away blocks
#2281 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Move away from spawn
#2282 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/opyourself
#2283 [16:57] <MDanz> any ideas?
#2284 [16:57] <VoxelHead> smp/opyourself: If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#2285 [16:57] <MDanz> ok
#2286 [16:57] <VoxelHead> smp/opyourself: Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#2287 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: gagging at macs? I'm no fan of Apple's desktops, but their laptops are actually quite nice, and OSX's power management is unmatched.
#2288 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Still yes DopeGhoti, they've yet to impress me with performance for the price
#2289 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> As for the OS, well.. I"m happy with any flavor of POSIX
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#2291 [16:58] <MDanz> how do you talk on the server agian?
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#2293 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: I'm actually quite impressed with the Air at its price point
#2294 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> MDanz: press T.
#2295 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> "say stuffyouwanttotalk
#2296 [16:59] <MDanz> ok
#2297 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> (oh, from the console)
#2298 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> hmm, underline?
#2299 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> _underline_, yes.
#2300 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Huh, mIRC isn't giving me the control codes for it anymore
#2301 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> stuff
#2302 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> invert?
#2303 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> wait, when did italics show up...
#2304 [17:03] <Arkose> invert doesn't work.
#2305 [17:03] <MDanz> why cant i build / take away near spawn?
#2306 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> MDanz - Spawn protection, prevents building near spawn for normal players
#2307 [17:04] <MDanz> how can i make myself not a normal playeR?
#2308 [17:04] <MDanz> like a owner or smtin
#2309 [17:04] <Arkose> ?? smp/opyourself
#2310 [17:04] <VoxelHead> smp/opyourself: If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#2311 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> "op mDanz" in console
#2312 [17:04] <VoxelHead> smp/opyourself: Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#2313 [17:05] <MDanz> i typed op MDanz yh
#2314 [17:06] <MDanz> and on spawn bit do i use "Dec" or "Hex" value?
#2315 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Dec
#2316 [17:07] <aetherian> I think that sounds funny
#2317 [17:07] <aetherian> "op yourself"
#2318 [17:08] <MDanz> ok and dose anyone know if squids atk u if u atk them?
#2319 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2320 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> They're passive mobs
#2321 [17:09] <aetherian> I thought they were neutral...
#2322 [17:09] * aetherian hasn't swam with them much
#2322 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Bah, "watson" won
#2323 [17:10] <MDanz> and i try to find were my spawn spot is but it keeps on chenging spots?
#2324 [17:11] <MDanz> changing*
#2325 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't change
#2326 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> The spot you exit your server with, is the same spot you come back to when you reconnect
#2327 [17:11] <aetherian> on smp it changes a little
#2328 [17:11] <aetherian> but within the same area
#2329 [17:13] <Mathuin> The place I work has a youtube channel, with videos of the Chinese factory as well as the warehouse and customer service folks. Crazh.
#2330 [17:13] <Mathuin> Crazy, rather.
#2331 [17:13] <MDanz> i mean when you die
#2332 [17:18] <Arkose> the spawn point will shift under certain circumstances.
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#2334 [17:18] <Arkose> you can use your op powers to put it back where you want it, of course.
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#2336 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Not with vanilla
#2337 [17:20] <Arkose> oh... right. <_<
#2338 [17:24] <MDanz> is there a way to turn off leaf decay or not?
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#2340 [17:24] <MDanz> GreyVulpine
#2341 [17:27] <aetherian> hey AndrewPH
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#2343 [17:29] <AndrewPH> hi
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#2346 [17:32] <Kurin|Minecraft> Stupid question I'm sure, but is there a way to change a multiplayer server's 'easiness'?
#2347 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> Kurin|Minecraft: sort of, in that you can turn hostile mobs off entirely
#2348 [17:35] <Moonwolf___> disable monsters ?
#2349 [17:36] <Mathuin> 'peaceful'
#2350 [17:36] <Mathuin> Difficulty: peaceful. Right?
#2351 [17:36] <Kurin|Minecraft> can that be done on-the-fly or only on startup? And yes, peaceful but on multiplayer.
#2352 [17:36] <Mathuin> I was on an SMP server that was peaceful.
#2353 [17:36] <Mathuin> Didn't administer it, don't know how they did it.
#2354 [17:36] <Kurin|Minecraft> what does SMP mean?
#2355 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> http://maradydd.livejournal.com/293666.html If programming languages were relationships. Hilarious.
#2356 [17:37] <Mathuin> survival multi player.
#2357 [17:37] <Mathuin> #smp may be able to help you.
#2358 [17:37] <Kurin|Minecraft> ah
#2359 [17:37] <NinjaKirby> Correct me if I'm wrong, but changing that setting will cause a "semi-server rebuild" right? You'd need to backup character inventories?
#2360 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: no, changing settings like that you just have to restart the server for.
#2361 [17:38] <NinjaKirby> Ah, must have been other settings I changed in the past causing loss of inventory then :3 Enlightening, thanks
#2362 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> \o
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#2364 [17:39] <Rui_rui> Hi
#2365 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#2366 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> How may #MineCraftHelp assist you?
#2367 [17:40] <Rui_rui> Uno momento. I'm trying to figure out if minecraft is being retarded about one server or all of them.
#2368 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> A good thing to clarify.
#2369 [17:42] <Rui_rui> I think it's just one, since the others are giving me a user not premium, so I assume they're just full
#2370 [17:42] <Rui_rui> I can't connect to 192.168.0.5, though. It's a server my friend just made.
#2371 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> that's a LAN IP
#2372 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> if they're not on your LAN, get the WAN IP and ensure the port is forwarded
#2373 [17:43] <Rui_rui> Okay, I'll tell them that.
#2374 [17:44] <Kurin|Minecraft> Does anyone have a listing of all server properties?
#2375 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Kurin|Minecraft - Wiki does
#2376 [17:44] <Moonwolf___> yes
#2377 [17:44] <Kurin|Minecraft> ah, thanks.
#2378 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> Kurin|Minecraft: IIRC, the server.properties file should be generated with all fields present already
#2379 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> http://tinyurl.com/4dx85wq
#2380 [17:44] <Kurin|Minecraft> DopeGhoti, except it doesn't.
#2381 [17:44] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: you have to run the server at least once first, though, right?
#2382 [17:44] <Kurin|Minecraft> or maybe it does.
#2383 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it does Kurin|Minecraft
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#2385 [17:45] <Mathuin> Those let-me-search-it-for-you sites are so juvenile and offensive.
#2386 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: They can be used in such a manner, but are not in and of themselves juvenile or offensive
#2387 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> (IMO)
#2388 [17:47] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: I respectfully disagree.
#2389 [17:47] <Mathuin> The condescending "was that so hard?" business is the icing on that cake.
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#2391 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> Oh, they're certainly condescending.
#2392 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> and passive-aggressive
#2393 [17:48] <Mathuin> That sort of behavior I file under "juvenile" and often "offensive". :-)
#2394 [17:48] <Mathuin> But to each their own.
#2395 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Eh, to some, it's a needed lesson.
#2396 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> "Hey, what's the site for the minecraft wiki?"
#2397 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> If you expect everything handed to you on demand, you'll be sorely disappointed when Real Life™ rolls around
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#2399 [17:50] <clank714> When will indev come out
#2400 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> indev is already dead and gone.
#2401 [17:50] <clank714> How bout infdev
#2402 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> Same deal
#2403 [17:50] <NinjaKirby> Stepping stones for the future that is now
#2404 [17:51] <clank714> Alpha?
#2405 [17:51] <Mathuin> Has anything really changed in an architectural way since the Alpha->Beta transition?
#2406 [17:51] <NinjaKirby> Troll? XD
#2407 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Alpha became beta
#2408 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Which is what we have now
#2409 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: the savefiles are about to.
#2410 [17:51] <Mathuin> Any chance that devs can get the specs in advance?
#2411 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Already out
#2412 [17:51] <clank714> Notch made a shit load of bugs in beta
#2413 [17:52] * GreyVulpine points Mathuin to http://mojang.com/
#2413 [17:52] <Moonwolf___> jo we getting rick trolled
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#2417 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> Moonwolf___: what?
#2418 [17:54] <Mathuin> The blog post that went up yesterday (didn't see it there when I looked earlier in the week) looks pretty helpful.
#2419 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> mhmm
#2420 [17:54] <Kealper> rawr
#2421 [17:54] <Moonwolf___> dope i mean we r getting trolled
#2422 [17:54] <Moonwolf___> hi Kealper
#2423 [17:55] * GreyVulpine tars and gzips Kealper
#2423 [17:55] <Kealper> been gone most of the day...went to a military base....etc...
#2424 [17:55] <Kealper> noes!
#2425 [17:55] <Rui_rui> I doubt this
#2426 [17:55] <Rui_rui> But is there a way to make Minecraft tablet-friendly?
#2427 [17:55] <Kealper> doubt what o.o
#2428 [17:55] <Kealper> not really
#2429 [17:55] <Kealper> on-screen keyboard? lol
#2430 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> Rui_rui: Not without significant modification.
#2431 [17:56] <Rui_rui> baw
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#2433 [17:57] <NinjaKirby> Hardcore Tablet Modding
#2434 [17:57] <NinjaKirby> SLI GTX460's hanging off of it loose
#2435 [17:57] <Kealper> anyways GreyVulpine i don't recall any friction over aubot being in #minecraft, heck at it was even op'd in there for a day...but i took it out because it didn't really have a purpose, and it's mod_bot is rather unstable when it gets too much spam
#2436 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Oh, then was it xales' bot?
#2437 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> I remember one of yours peeved off an op there
#2438 [17:58] <Kealper> wasn't mine :/
#2439 [17:58] <Kealper> people love AuBot :O
#2440 [17:59] <Kealper> that reminds me...i really have to see just why that module is so unstable...
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#2442 [18:00] <Kealper> it seems to only crash when it gets a ton of joins...so i'm betting it's something about all the hdd accesses (yeah, ghettocode is ghetto) it does on joins....
#2443 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#2444 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Ouch
#2445 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2170691/Versions-Past.jpg
#2446 [18:01] <Kealper> i've really got to just throw away that entire module and rewrite it but that would be so much work...it's like 1500 lines -.-
#2447 [18:02] <Kealper> lol
#2448 [18:02] <Kealper> lol at n673's rdns
#2449 [18:03] <Kealper> oh, crap...
#2450 [18:03] <Kealper> <+IdleRPG> Kealper burned a hole through his leggings while ironing them! Kealper's set of leggings loses 10% of its effectiveness.
#2451 [18:04] <Elvang> Heh
#2452 [18:04] <Elvang> Was laughing at that
#2453 [18:04] <Kealper> ._.
#2454 [18:04] <Elvang> I think evil is the way to go
#2455 [18:04] <Elvang> Stole a 104 tunic and left a 24 behind
#2456 [18:04] <Kealper> wow
#2457 [18:04] <Kealper> lol
#2458 [18:05] <Elvang> You don't get the time bonuses of good, but you win more battles. Chance of critical + stealing better stuff :)
#2459 [18:05] <Kealper> yeah, i was looking....i got mine set to good for the bonuses
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#2461 [18:06] <Elvang> I stuck with good till level 25 since I wouldn't have been winning any battles below that anyhow
#2462 [18:06] <Gecko1986> when I host a SMP server
#2463 [18:06] <Gecko1986> ie vanilla, does everyone get the same spawn point?
#2464 [18:07] <Kealper> yes
#2465 [18:07] <Gecko1986> ok
#2466 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> well
#2467 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> spawn area
#2468 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> there is no "spawn point" anymore.
#2469 [18:07] <Kealper> yeah, that....
#2470 [18:07] <Gecko1986> and how big is the area?
#2471 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> IIRC 22x22
#2472 [18:07] <Gecko1986> thx
#2473 [18:07] <Kealper> i should check the size of the spawn area......
#2474 [18:07] <Elvang> Thats the same for SSP right?
#2475 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> and the "protection area" is 32x32
#2476 [18:07] * Kealper does that
#2476 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> No Elvang
#2477 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> IIRC in SSP, spawning is at the same point.
#2478 [18:08] <Elvang> I mean what the point can move within
#2479 [18:08] <Elvang> Like changing it via digging down
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#2481 [18:09] <brother_dave> What does the "monsters" key do in the server.properties file? the mention here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties#monsters isn't very clear.
#2482 [18:10] <Kealper> enables/disables hostile mobs
#2483 [18:10] <brother_dave> That's the spawn-monsters key.
#2484 [18:10] <Kealper> stuff like zombies, creepers, skeletons, spides
#2485 [18:10] <Kealper> oh
#2486 [18:10] <Kealper> shows how much i pay attention
#2487 [18:11] <Kealper> is there both?
#2488 [18:11] <brother_dave> heh
#2489 [18:11] <Kealper> truth-be-told, i have never actually studied the config file in-depth
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#2491 [18:12] <brother_dave> It just says "Alongside spawn-monsters there is a monsters key" in the wiki. I was hoping it allowed selective disabling of hostile mobs.
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#2494 [18:12] * Mathuin is "enjoying" the five-minute debug cycle.
#2494 [18:12] <deem> how�s the progress mathuin? :)
#2495 [18:13] <Mathuin> deem: the trees look great, IMHO. I'm now testing ore placement.
#2496 [18:13] <Elvang> Whats he working on? Mod?
#2497 [18:13] <Gecko1986> brother_dave: I guess you could code it using mcp :p
#2498 [18:13] <Mathuin> I think my current algorithm is a little heavy-handed, but I haven't yet run it in production.
#2499 [18:13] <Kealper> brother_dave: i don't see it in my config file, so....methinks that lies
#2500 [18:13] <Mathuin> Elvang: TopoMC on the forums.
#2501 [18:13] <Elvang> Ah, k
#2502 [18:14] <Elvang> Oh yea
#2503 [18:14] <brother_dave> Thank you, sir.
#2504 [18:14] <Elvang> I remember you talking about that in here a couple days ago...
#2505 [18:14] <deem> well when it works out with trees ... why shouldnt it with other stuff? it sounds quite "easy" once you figure how the "placement" works, but then again it�s me having no clue of such things :)
#2506 [18:15] <Gecko1986> is there a way to force a recreate of the map while being ingame? (so I can keep recreating until I like the result)
#2507 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> Gecko1986: yes: pick a direction and walk.
#2508 [18:15] <Wahrheit> Kealper: Allowed to ask for stress testers?
#2509 [18:16] <Gecko1986> can I change the spawn location?
#2510 [18:16] <Gecko1986> *zone
#2511 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Gecko1986 - Yes, with a map editor
#2512 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Or with a server mod
#2513 [18:16] <Gecko1986> I'll have to look into that then
#2514 [18:17] <Kealper> Wahrheit: like...advertise in here to get people on to see if your server craps out? i don't care
#2515 [18:17] <Kealper> heck, i'll even join in :o
#2516 [18:17] <Wahrheit> EVERYONE TRY TO BREAK THE SERVER: 64.34.176.219:27365
#2517 [18:17] <Wahrheit> (it's k, multiplay made it specifically for this purpose)
#2518 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> Wahrheit: you'd get a better stress test by posting on reddit.com/r/minecraft
#2519 [18:19] <Wahrheit> cheers
#2520 [18:20] <NinjaKirby> Is there anyway I can screw my server up through excessive explosions? Sounds ridiculous maybe, but I'm seeing glitches for only 2-3 blasts.
#2521 [18:21] <NinjaKirby> I gave myselg 64 TNT, need to clear a Cavern and doing it "the manual way" would take real life days -_-
#2522 [18:21] <NinjaKirby> I have atleast some of a life.
#2523 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> well, it might take a while to calculate all the kabooms and kick everyone out while it goes catatonic
#2524 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> (but you'd need a lot more than 64 TNT to do that)
#2525 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> but you won't _break_ the server.
#2526 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> just make it slow for a while as it does all the math
#2527 [18:22] <NinjaKirby> It's not even simultaneous, they are seperated by enough stone. So excellent, I made a backup anyway XD
#2528 [18:22] <NinjaKirby> Thanks, time to have some fun.
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#2530 [18:23] <Kealper> Wahrheit: RAGE!!!
#2531 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> ?
#2532 [18:24] <NinjaKirby> lol?
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#2534 [18:24] <Wahrheit> Kealper: It appears to be lagging
#2535 [18:24] <Mogen> Hello
#2536 [18:24] <Kealper> Wahrheit: this looks like resource-bottleneck lag
#2537 [18:24] <Mogen> can someone teach me how to get a texture pack (hd textures)
#2538 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> HD textures involve mods
#2539 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#2540 [18:24] <Kealper> what is it? VPS? home server? what sort of internet is it on?
#2541 [18:24] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2542 [18:24] <VoxelHead> mods: For assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2543 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> For regular texture packs, just drop the .ZIP file into the directory Minecraft opens for you from the menu
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#2545 [18:27] <Kealper> crashed for out of memory errors o.o
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#2547 [18:28] <Kealper> brb for pizza
#2548 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> mmm, pizza
#2549 [18:29] <deem> java error bla
#2550 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> deem: coffee doesn't go well on pizza.
#2551 [18:29] <deem> tried it?
#2552 [18:30] <Kealper> ok Wahrheit, back up?
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#2554 [18:31] <Wahrheit> yup
#2555 [18:31] <Kealper> also...what is it that you are trying to do? your hosting company says the server is fine, but you say it isn't?
#2556 [18:32] <Wahrheit> I say the code is causing the lag
#2557 [18:32] <Wahrheit> the hmod default code
#2558 [18:32] <Wahrheit> they say the plugins are
#2559 [18:32] <Wahrheit> Something is causing 150% cpu usage and I aim to discover what
#2560 [18:33] <Kealper> running default hmod right now?
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#2562 [18:35] <Wahrheit> Yup
#2563 [18:36] <Wahrheit> basic hmod with multiplay admin interface and wrapper
#2564 [18:36] <Kealper> server is lagging bad right now again....how many people do you have on there/
#2565 [18:36] <Kealper> and how much ram does this thing have?
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#2567 [18:38] <Kealper> yeah, something has that server almost totally locked up
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#2569 [18:38] <Wahrheit> 1gb ram
#2570 [18:38] <SkiingPenguins> ...
#2571 [18:38] * GreyVulpine gags
#2571 [18:38] <Kealper> 1gb total? or 1gb dedicated?
#2572 [18:38] <Wahrheit> ded
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#2574 [18:39] <Kealper> how much ram does the machine have?
#2575 [18:39] <Wahrheit> lemme ask
#2576 [18:39] <Wahrheit> oh hey look CPU spikes
#2577 [18:39] <Wahrheit> VICTORY IS MINE
#2578 [18:39] <Kealper> XD
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#2580 [18:39] <Kealper> i told you that was lag caused from lack of CPU time (something else was eating cpu usage)
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#2582 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#2583 [18:40] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.511 Seconds.
#2584 [18:41] <Arkose> !ping
#2585 [18:41] <GreyBot> Arkose Your Ping time was 0.791 Seconds.
#2586 [18:41] <Arkose> I win.
#2587 [18:41] <Kealper> no...
#2588 [18:41] <Kealper> !ping
#2589 [18:41] <GreyBot> Kealper Your Ping time was 3.405 Seconds.
#2590 [18:41] <Kealper> (i win)
#2591 [18:41] <Arkose> D:
#2592 [18:41] <Arkose> bronze medal D:
#2593 [18:42] <Kealper> my client waits 3 sec before sending CTCP replies, so my actual ping was only about 400ms :P
#2594 [18:42] <Xerati> !ping
#2595 [18:42] <GreyBot> Xerati Your Ping time was 0.16 Seconds.
#2596 [18:42] <Xerati> <_<
#2597 [18:42] <Kealper> damn
#2598 [18:42] * Xerati flexes
#2598 [18:42] <Kealper> !load mod_console
#2599 [18:42] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2599 [18:42] <Kealper> mod console y u no load
#2600 [18:42] <Moonwolf> !ping
#2601 [18:42] <GreyBot> Moonwolf Your Ping time was 0.45 Seconds.
#2602 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Greybot runs on the same computer that I'm using... and yet you ping FASTER to it than I do.
#2603 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> HAX
#2604 [18:43] <Xerati> yeah
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#2606 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: that's mIRC for you.
#2607 [18:43] <Xerati> i'm effectively right on an internet backbone
#2608 [18:43] <Xerati> with like 1 or 2 hops, max
#2609 [18:43] * GreyVulpine stabs mIRC
#2609 [18:43] <Xerati> i'm on mIRC
#2610 [18:43] <Moonwolf> ^^ i will look out for flying PC screens
#2611 [18:44] <Rui_rui> How do you check an IP address from here?
#2612 [18:44] <Xerati> check how?
#2613 [18:44] <Rui_rui> A... server IP address, that is.
#2614 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> !check me
#2615 [18:44] <Rui_rui> !check 66.153.225.89
#2616 [18:44] <Rui_rui> Moof.
#2617 [18:45] <Xerati> !check 98.203.255.46
#2618 [18:45] <Xerati> oops
#2619 [18:45] <Rui_rui> That's my friend's WAN address. And it's not working for some reason.
#2620 [18:45] <Xerati> server is down
#2621 [18:45] <Xerati> or his ip changed
#2622 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> Is the port properly forwarded?
#2623 [18:46] <Xerati> !check 98.203.255.46:25000
#2624 [18:46] <Rui_rui> She said it is.
#2625 [18:46] <Xerati> i run too many servers on my comp
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#2627 [18:47] <Rui_rui> !check 64.150.152.106
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#2630 [18:51] <Rui_rui> Can firewalls get in the way of hosting?
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#2632 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> Yes. The whole point of firewalls, in fact, is to get in the way.
#2633 [18:51] <Kealper> lol
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#2635 [18:51] <Rui_rui> Bree, do you have a firewall that might be interfering?
#2636 [18:52] <Amabree> No, I'm pretty sure the firewall is, for the most part, off.
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#2638 [18:52] <Amabree> And I did the port forwarding bit, but for some reason when I check on one of the sites to see if it is actually open, it still says close for me.
#2639 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> then it's not actually forwarded properly
#2640 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> Amabree: are you using canyouseeme.org?
#2641 [18:53] <Amabree> No idea what that is, so nope. o O
#2642 [18:53] <Kealper> AuBot >.>
#2643 [18:53] <RF> Some ISPs will block ports also, check you're not under such limitations perhaps
#2644 [18:53] <Kealper> ^
#2645 [18:53] <Amabree> I'm using yougetsignal.com to check the port, though. If that is what you mean.
#2646 [18:53] <RF> if you're SURE that port-forwarding is set corectly
#2647 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> Amabree: go there, and punch in the Minecraft port.
#2648 [18:54] <Amabree> Alright.
#2649 [18:54] <Kealper> somehow i got that totally mixed up when i read it the first time
#2650 [18:54] <Kealper> i read it as "go there, and punch minecraft in the port"
#2651 [18:54] <Rui_rui> Why is Minecraft telling me to call my mother.
#2652 [18:54] <RF> because you are a terrible child
#2653 [18:55] <deem> RF is right!
#2654 [18:55] <Rui_rui> /sob.
#2655 [18:55] <Kealper> /wrists?
#2656 [18:55] <deem> Why else should MC tell you to call your mother?
#2657 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> Rui_rui: What is it telling you to call her?
#2658 [18:55] <Rui_rui> It just says "Call your mother!"
#2659 [18:55] <Xerati> O_o
#2660 [18:55] <Rui_rui> It's one of the crazy yellow phrases.
#2661 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> "Call her _what_?"
#2662 [18:55] <Arkose> ...
#2663 [18:55] <Amabree> Mm. I checked and it says that couldn't see it because the connection refused.
#2664 [18:55] <SkiingPenguins> D: I BE CONFUSED!!
#2665 [18:55] <Kealper> "a wonderful person!"
#2666 [18:55] <Amabree> Or something along those lines.
#2667 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> Amabree: double-check your router settings.
#2668 [18:55] <Xerati> !check 106.64.150.152
#2669 [18:56] <deem> i hope its not one of those http://i.imgur.com/sxCOW.jpg
#2670 [18:56] <roddes> hey, im having a problem were i log into minecraft and it comes up with the updating minecraft screen but it just stay saying done loading and doesnt change. anyone suggestions?
#2671 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> roddes: what OS?
#2672 [18:56] <roddes> windows xp
#2673 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/reinst
#2674 [18:56] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2675 [18:56] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2676 [18:56] <RF> !check 64.150.152.106
#2677 [18:56] <roddes> thanks for the help
#2678 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#2679 [18:57] <Wahrheit> Server back up
#2680 [18:57] <Wahrheit> PLEASE CONNECT TO 64.34.176.219:27365 to help stress test and show that Hmod is indeed the problem, rather than vanilla software!
#2681 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Wow, hmod is still around?
#2682 [18:58] <Wahrheit> idling is fine :)
#2683 [18:58] <Wahrheit> GreyVulpine: 134 A16
#2684 [18:58] <roddes> working now thanks everyone
#2685 [18:58] <Rui_rui> Although I'm not the one doing this, out of curiosity, how do you forward ports?
#2686 [18:58] <Wahrheit> Bukkit isn't stable enough for use in a method such as ClanForge
#2687 [18:58] <Wahrheit> Rui: portforward.com
#2688 [18:58] <Rui_rui> Oh, internet. You make things so easy.
#2689 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> roddes: working now? Yay!
#2690 [18:59] <deem> Dope you are a saint!
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#2692 [18:59] <deem> Btw i somehow always read your name as dopeghosti ... cant help it :(
#2693 [18:59] <Mathuin> The three-minute cycle is a ten-minute cycle on the slow computer. :-P
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#2695 [19:00] <deem> Hmm gotta think about einstein now ... o.O
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#2697 [19:01] <aetherian> ...?!
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#2700 [19:01] <deem> :(
#2701 [19:02] <DTOX> Question of doom : Why does my internet keep dying when me and my friends play MPS?
#2702 [19:02] <aetherian> MPS?
#2703 [19:02] <DTOX> Multiplayer survival
#2704 [19:02] <deem> you host?
#2705 [19:02] <DTOX> Yes.
#2706 [19:03] <aetherian> uh
#2707 [19:03] <aetherian> too much for your internet, most likely
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#2710 [19:03] <aetherian> what're you running on?
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#2713 [19:03] <DTOX> 24 Mbit fiber
#2714 [19:03] <Wahrheit> MCnet down?
#2715 [19:03] <aetherian> 24 Mbit o.o
#2716 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#2717 [19:03] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2718 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Also DTOX - Known problem
#2719 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internet_crashes_after_about_5_minutes_connected_to_a_smp_server
#2720 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/smp_server_destabilizes_internet_connection
#2721 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internet_crashes_when_anyone_joins_my_smp_server
#2722 [19:04] <DTOX> Yes I know that, but someone must have some answers?
#2723 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> etc, etc
#2724 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2725 [19:04] <aetherian> when is minecraft.net going to be more stable, speculations?
#2726 [19:04] <deem> in the future!
#2727 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Two weeks™
#2728 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: 5 Octember 20X1
#2729 [19:04] <Arkose> Mojang operates on the Swedish equivalent of Valve Time
#2730 [19:04] <DTOX> Why not make minecraft run without java? Shouldn't that solve the case?
#2731 [19:05] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: har har
#2732 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> Sure, while you're at it, let's run Linux without C.
#2733 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> DTOX - Notch wanted Minecraft to be accessible
#2734 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> You can't do that with C
#2735 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> or easy, with any other language
#2736 [19:05] <DTOX> What's C :P ? Is it like you can run it with linux?
#2737 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> !wiki c
#2738 [19:05] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_%28programming_language%29
#2739 [19:05] <GreyBot> C (pronounced /ˈsiː/ see) is a general-purpose computer programming language developed between 1969 and 1973 by Dennis Ritchie at the Bell Telephone Laboratories for use with the Unix operating system.
#2740 [19:06] <CruelNoise> Wow
#2741 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> I think you missed the point.
#2742 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, gotta run.
#2743 [19:06] <CruelNoise> They had processors back then?
#2744 [19:06] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#2744 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft was _written_ in Java. To "Run it without Java" would akso be known as "recreating it from scratch"
#2745 [19:07] <Arkose> you can run without Java installed, but you still need to run *through* Java. ;)
#2746 [19:07] <DTOX> Yup, but who wants to play the game multiplayer if it just fucks up the internet after 5 mins?
#2747 [19:07] <Arkose> for most people it doesn't.
#2748 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't for me
#2749 [19:07] <DTOX> What OP are you on?
#2750 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> Are you being deliberately obtuse, or what?
#2751 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> .."what OP"?
#2752 [19:08] <DTOX> Meant OS my bad.
#2753 [19:08] <DTOX> Operating system
#2754 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> I've run the server on windows XP and vista, no problem
#2755 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> It runs fine for me in Linux, Windows, and McOS
#2756 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> I've helped people run it on mac, and various flavors of Nix
#2757 [19:08] <aetherian> ...neither for me
#2758 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Also works fine
#2759 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes, a particular system configuration doesn't play nice with minecraft.
#2760 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> (Same as pretty much any other contemporary game)
#2761 [19:09] <DTOX> GreyVulpine have you got an intern or extern networkcard? (if thats the word for it)
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#2763 [19:10] <DTOX> or well perhaps not extern networkcard, more like plug-n-play
#2764 [19:11] * DopeGhoti wonders what DTOX's native language is.
#2764 [19:11] <DTOX> Swedish :)
#2765 [19:11] <Xerati> anyone have a fix for the topsoil terrain generation checkboard sand/grass problem?
#2766 [19:12] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: be nice, most people are worse.
#2767 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> Xerati: it's not a problem, it's a terrain transition
#2768 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: I was nice. I'm not allowed to wonder?
#2769 [19:12] <aetherian> not publicly
#2770 [19:12] <aetherian> ;o
#2771 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> ..right.
#2772 [19:12] <Xerati> DopeGhoti, it's supposed to be, but it's reversed
#2773 [19:12] <DTOX> Want me to explain a bit more?
#2774 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> Xerati: if it's a checkerboard, how can you tell? (:
#2775 [19:12] <Xerati> it's supposed to be a smooth curved/wavy/whatever natural looking line
#2776 [19:12] <Xerati> it's chunkbased checkerboard
#2777 [19:13] * Xerati facepalms
#2777 [19:13] <Xerati> i'll get the bugreport
#2778 [19:13] <Xerati> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=116638
#2779 [19:13] <Xerati> here's the thread about it
#2780 [19:13] <Xerati> i'm not talking the 1x1 checkboard stuffs, that just looks like farmland
#2781 [19:14] <Xerati> i'm talking about the bug in chunk topsoil generation
#2782 [19:14] <Xerati> happened with the beta release
#2783 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> Huh. I've not seen that.
#2784 [19:14] <Xerati> in alpha it was fine, but it's been broken (and annoying) in beta
#2785 [19:14] <DTOX> Hmm, is NIC the right word for "networkcard"?
#2786 [19:14] <Xerati> yes
#2787 [19:14] <Xerati> network interface card
#2788 [19:15] <DTOX> Ah, thanks. Now I can finally make my point
#2789 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> oh, huh. http://minecraft2.hfbgaming.com/map/?lat=0.542623&lng=0.395335&zoom=7
#2790 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> It is happening on my server.
#2791 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> This is the first I'd heard of it though
#2792 [19:15] <Xerati> yeah
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#2794 [19:15] <Xerati> the sand/grass in those chunks should be reversed (not rotated, but actually replaced)
#2795 [19:15] <DTOX> Some people who got it to multiplayer to work, they have bought a new NIC instead of using the one intergrated with the motherboard
#2796 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> DTOX: That makes sense, some chipsets can't handle the metaphorical fire host that is minecraft's network traffic
#2797 [19:16] <DTOX> On my server we're 3 people
#2798 [19:16] <nina> does anyone know the minimum requirements to run a server? I am trying to decide if my pentium 4 laptop with 1 gig of ram is enough for mabey a 10 person server for me and my friends
#2799 [19:16] <DTOX> Though stuff that is intergrated is pure crap
#2800 [19:17] <Xerati> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/sand_grass_transitions_do_not_generate_correctly_in_beta is the bug report
#2801 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> nina: absolutely not.
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#2803 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> nina: 1GiB of RAM is needed by minecraft itself, before you even account for the underlying OS
#2804 [19:17] <aetherian> o.o
#2805 [19:17] <stomper> Server Ip's?
#2806 [19:18] <aetherian> talk about someone having high expectations
#2807 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/servers
#2808 [19:18] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#2809 [19:18] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also ask in #SMP; there are often server admins there looking for new players.
#2810 [19:18] <stomper> Where can I find a comprehensive server listing?
#2811 [19:18] * DopeGhoti points up
#2811 [19:18] <DTOX> Above you
#2812 [19:18] <nina> 1 G just to run the server? is a pentium 4 atleast enough proccessor for a 10 man server?
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#2814 [19:19] <DTOX> Just by curiosity, notch doesn't code minecraft anymore huh?
#2815 [19:19] <Xerati> with potentially occassional lag spikes due to processing (like chunk generation) sure
#2816 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> DTOX: yes, he does.
#2817 [19:19] <Xerati> he still works on it
#2818 [19:19] <Xerati> he has a team that helps
#2819 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> it's just not the only thing he does. There's other pesky things like running the company, sleeping, and posting on his web sites and Twitter.
#2820 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> Oh, and nerf wars.
#2821 [19:20] <nina> so then if I boost my ram, I may JUST have enough? I tried running it on my desktop but I cant run minecraft AND the server with only 2 gigs and a 2gig proccessor
#2822 [19:20] <Xerati> and big birthday parties/vacations!
#2823 [19:20] <DTOX> I think he should take some stuff from MO creatures and add to minecraft :)
#2824 [19:20] <Xerati> nina, probably?
#2825 [19:20] <Xerati> i can ran 2 servers at 2gb ram each, as well as play minecraft, while recording in HD
#2826 [19:21] <Xerati> on my local pc
#2827 [19:21] <Xerati> 8gb ram
#2828 [19:21] <DTOX> gief
#2829 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> nina: that's because the server allocates 1GiB, the client allocated a GiB, and the OS uses around 1 GiB
#2830 [19:21] <Xerati> lol
#2831 [19:21] <nina> yikes!
#2832 [19:21] <Xerati> yeah, if you're running it locally, i'd recommand at least 4gb ram
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#2834 [19:21] <Xerati> the server and client* that is
#2835 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> I'm currently at 3.9Gb
#2836 [19:22] <DTOX> And that doesnt fit in a laptop :(
#2837 [19:22] <Xerati> if they're on separate machines, 2-3gb or more is preferred
#2838 [19:22] <aetherian> waddya mean
#2839 [19:22] <aetherian> dtox
#2840 [19:22] <DTOX> Im drunk
#2841 [19:22] <DTOX> Dont mind me
#2842 [19:22] <aetherian> my laptop is running 4 gb ram
#2843 [19:22] <Acidnine> question, how can i change my mc.net account name prior to purchase?
#2844 [19:22] <nina> good to know.. I always thought this game had much smaller requirements. never realized the ram needs were so high. well, looks like I will be buying a cheap computer to be a server. thanks
#2845 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Acidnine - You can't
#2846 [19:22] <DTOX> Well I kinda forgot theres 2Gb a piece now adays
#2847 [19:22] <Xerati> Acidnine, register a new one
#2848 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Create a new account with the name you want
#2849 [19:22] <Acidnine> no!
#2850 [19:22] <aetherian> yes!
#2851 [19:22] <Xerati> yes!
#2852 [19:23] <Xerati> or email support
#2853 [19:23] <Xerati> good luck
#2854 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, g'luck with that
#2855 [19:23] <Acidnine> it's as simple as changing the Case of text
#2856 [19:23] <Acidnine> simple upper-case the first letter? still no?
#2857 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Well um, nick changes aren't possible at the moment
#2858 [19:23] <DTOX> GreyVulpine, did you use a non-intergrated NIC?
#2859 [19:23] <Acidnine> :(
#2860 [19:23] <Acidnine> it's not purchased yet.. .just reg'd
#2861 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> DTOX - What do you mean?
#2862 [19:23] <Xerati> DTOX, for?
#2863 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> Acidnine: to register under the name you _want_
#2864 [19:23] <aetherian> reg a new one, Acidnine
#2865 [19:24] <DTOX> For the servers you hosted on your XP machines
#2866 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> s/to/so/
#2867 [19:24] <Xerati> integrated vs non-integrated should not matter
#2868 [19:24] <Xerati> unless there's a known issue with a chipset on the integrated one
#2869 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> I've used both..
#2870 [19:24] <Acidnine> i can't, because i only want to change the case and it claims it already exists... meh
#2871 [19:24] <Xerati> like the old VIA ones
#2872 [19:24] <DTOX> NIC network card thingy goes into motherboard
#2873 [19:24] <aetherian> well dur, Acidnine
#2874 [19:24] <Acidnine> i'll deal w/it then.. ty for info
#2875 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> Acidnine: Well, I'm afraid you're SOL then
#2876 [19:24] <aetherian> it's not case sensitive
#2877 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> I have an integrated NIC on my laptop that I used for a server, I've also used an internal NIC as well
#2878 [19:24] <Xerati> it's not, but he wants it to display differently
#2879 [19:24] <aetherian> can you imagine, there'd be too many people leeching off of names
#2880 [19:25] <Acidnine> ty for help... lates
#2881 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> ciao
#2882 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> seperate from the mobo, but a PCI card
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#2884 [19:25] <DTOX> GreyVulpine, on the laptop, was that a linux?
#2885 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Vista
#2886 [19:25] <Xerati> "a linux"
#2887 [19:25] * DopeGhoti wonders how many people tried to register nOtch, noTch, notCh, or notcH.
#2887 [19:25] <aetherian> I was going to say that
#2888 [19:25] <aetherian> there's probably a n0tch
#2889 [19:25] <DTOX> No need in trying to correct a man who is influenced by alcohol
#2890 [19:26] <DTOX> or insult me lol
#2891 [19:26] <aetherian> there is
#2892 [19:26] <aetherian> ya drunken basta-
#2893 [19:26] <DTOX> I'll just get MaD
#2894 [19:26] <NinjaKirby> Get outta here ya drunken bum! You gave up on life didn't ya!
#2895 [19:26] <DTOX> Couldnt get my minecraft server to work, realized the point of life is gone
#2896 [19:27] <aetherian> haha
#2897 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> now there's a fragile id.
#2898 [19:27] <aetherian> what's there to troubleshoot
#2899 [19:27] <DTOX> Internet shuts down blablabla yadadada
#2900 [19:27] <aetherian> download, portforward, start, stop, restart. done.
#2901 [19:27] <DTOX> Not the ports
#2902 [19:27] <aetherian> dtox, upgrade yer innernets
#2903 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> DTOX: solvable with a EUR8 NIC replacement
#2904 [19:28] <DTOX> Yeah well, shouldnt be my problem to buy stuff to get the game to work :P ?
#2905 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> it should, actually
#2906 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> I need to buy stuff to keep my car working, my house, and my computer.
#2907 [19:28] <DTOX> if it doesnt qualify, yes.
#2908 [19:28] <Xerati> based on your nic issues, your nic doesn't qualify
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#2910 [19:29] <DTOX> Realtek RTL8169
#2911 [19:29] <DTOX> is the name of the shitty shit
#2912 [19:30] <DTOX> Intergrated with ASUS Maximus or something like that
#2913 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> So get yourself a nice decent non-Atheros NIC and your troubles will be over.
#2914 [19:30] <aetherian> minecraft is one of the most expensive games ever
#2915 [19:30] <DTOX> So thats an Atheros card?
#2916 [19:31] <aetherian> once someone buys it, it's all "ima upgrade my computer for this" or "ima rent a server for this" or etc
#2917 [19:31] <aetherian> I mean really
#2918 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: yes, at US$21, it's so much more expensive than other games that have been released. Oh, wait.
#2919 [19:31] <DTOX> indeed
#2920 [19:31] <aetherian> >.>
#2921 [19:31] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: I meant the whole package
#2922 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: Like no one upgraded their computers for HL2 or Crysis
#2923 [19:31] <DTOX> or WoW
#2924 [19:32] <aetherian> you can build a ~500 dollar computer to play crysis
#2925 [19:32] <aetherian> probably less by now
#2926 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> Are you being deliberately obtuse?
#2927 [19:32] <DTOX> but not on maximum quality :)
#2928 [19:32] <aetherian> yesh
#2929 [19:32] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: yesh
#2930 [19:32] <DTOX> wtf does obtuse means
#2931 [19:32] * VoxelHead kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Well then, don't be.)
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#2933 [19:33] <SkiingPenguins> DTOX didnt you take geometry?
#2934 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Purger
#2935 [19:33] <Purger> Yes?
#2936 [19:33] <DTOX> I'm swedish, my geometrylessons aren't in english
#2937 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> DTOX: Blunt; not sharp; Intellectually dull or dim-witted; Indirect or circuitous;
#2938 [19:33] <DTOX> st00pid that is
#2939 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> s/00/u/, but yes.
#2940 [19:33] <Purger> Where are you getting at?
#2941 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> Purger: DTOX was asking what I meant by 'obtuse'; context was before you /joined.
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#2943 [19:34] <aetherian> waugh
#2944 [19:35] <aetherian> dopeghoti: it's not my fault >:
#2945 [19:35] <Purger> Well if this is a "help" section I can't seem to join any multiplayer games in minecraft =P
#2946 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> Purger: what happens when you try?
#2947 [19:35] <Purger> took too long to join
#2948 [19:35] <Purger> My internet is good though =P
#2949 [19:35] <DTOX> bad MS :P ?
#2950 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> Purger: just one server, or several? Just recently, or has then been happening for a while?
#2951 [19:35] <Purger> several
#2952 [19:36] <Purger> Just tried joining multiplayer today
#2953 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> Ah
#2954 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> A couple hours ago, the minecraft site started getting spotty, which can cause this problem.
#2955 [19:36] <Purger> Yeah I knowticed that too
#2956 [19:36] <Purger> Didn't put two and two together
#2957 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> Just keep trying and you'll eventually connect. Mojang is, I understand, working on a permenant solution to this.
#2958 [19:37] <DTOX> What was that NIC someone recommended?
#2959 [19:37] <Purger> Thanks mate. =D
#2960 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> Happy to help, Purger! (:
#2961 [19:37] <Kealper> DTOX: got a PCI-E x1 slot free?
#2962 [19:37] <aetherian> oh, welcome
#2963 [19:37] <DTOX> got two even :)
#2964 [19:37] <Kealper> right then, gimme a sec
#2965 [19:38] <Xerati> yes, atheros blows
#2966 [19:38] <Xerati> >:\
#2967 [19:38] <DTOX> I'll give you two because im kind
#2968 [19:38] <Kealper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106036
#2969 [19:38] <DTOX> Damn I hate computer progression
#2970 [19:39] <Kealper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106121
#2971 [19:39] <DTOX> Need to upgrade so damn often :P
#2972 [19:39] <aetherian> if it weren't for computer progression, there would be no minecraft
#2973 [19:39] <Kealper> second one is if you want to save $10 and get a pci one
#2974 [19:39] <DTOX> Aetherian, yes there would
#2975 [19:40] <aetherian> DTOX: no.
#2976 [19:40] <aetherian> if there was never any computer progression
#2977 [19:40] <Kealper> i absolutely hate intel CPUs/GPUs....but they pretty much set the bar when it comes to NICs and SSDs
#2978 [19:40] <SkiingPenguins> argue too much
#2979 [19:41] <aetherian> who argues too much?
#2980 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> AMD makes some pretty sexy SSDs
#2981 [19:41] <Purger> Bad login, end of stream, tons of fun =P
#2982 [19:41] <Kealper> hmm...
#2983 [19:41] * Kealper checks em out
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#2984 [19:41] <Xerati> Kealper, i'd disagree on the SSD's
#2985 [19:42] <Xerati> but then again my experience with them is flawed
#2986 [19:42] <Xerati> some tard at my company bought 15000 intel SSD's for build servers
#2987 [19:42] <Xerati> which then voided the warranty, and they crap out constantly
#2988 [19:42] <aetherian> wow
#2989 [19:42] <DTOX> I lol'd
#2990 [19:42] <aetherian> that's... lovely
#2991 [19:42] <Kealper> O.o
#2992 [19:42] <DTOX> Xerati, was that tard you :( ?
#2993 [19:43] <aetherian> D:
#2994 [19:43] <Xerati> god no
#2995 [19:43] <Xerati> i'm sure they got fired
#2996 [19:43] <DTOX> Just joking anyways :)
#2997 [19:43] <Xerati> i haven't been fired yet :D
#2998 [19:43] <Kealper> lol
#2999 [19:43] <DTOX> hooraaay
#3000 [19:43] <Kealper> "yet"
#3001 [19:43] <Xerati> yeah, i'm a bit of a slacker
#3002 [19:43] <Purger> I'm just having no luck connecting to minecraft games =P
#3003 [19:43] <Kealper> lol
#3004 [19:43] <DTOX> Tell me forum, what's your favorite drink?
#3005 [19:43] <Xerati> i work the weekend and i just play xbox all day
#3006 [19:43] <Xerati> xd
#3007 [19:44] <aetherian> woo
#3008 [19:44] <aetherian> and you play mc at work, right?
#3009 [19:44] <Kealper> ok....when you don't screw around and fail with SSDs, Intel is quite good
#3010 [19:44] <Xerati> sometimes
#3011 [19:44] <Xerati> my work pc is beastly, but not for video specs
#3012 [19:44] <Xerati> so gaming on it sucks
#3013 [19:44] <Xerati> but i have a hdtv on my desk with an xbox and 30+ games in the room
#3014 [19:44] * SkiingPenguins has to design 50 logos for class :/
#3014 [19:44] <Kealper> and also DopeGhoti i don't think AMD makes SSDs, i have not heard of any and Newegg doesn't carry any
#3015 [19:45] <aetherian> Kealper: try oldegg
#3016 [19:45] <DTOX> Only me who's swedish here?
#3017 [19:45] <Xerati> newegg, oldchicken
#3018 [19:45] <Kealper> DTOX: there are others, but since it's like ultra late in sweden, most are sleeping atm lol
#3019 [19:45] <Purger> Is it possible to see your avatar in 3rd person in single player mode?
#3020 [19:46] <Kealper> doesn't F5 work in single, too?
#3021 [19:46] <DTOX> It's not ultra late, it's 01:46
#3022 [19:46] <Xerati> yes
#3023 [19:46] <aetherian> DTOX: that's early
#3024 [19:46] <Kealper> to people with jobs, that's pretty late
#3025 [19:46] <DTOX> to people with school its also late
#3026 [19:46] <aetherian> yes hm well
#3027 [19:46] <Purger> I'll try f10 (crashes game)
#3028 [19:46] <DTOX> I'm only 17 btw
#3029 [19:47] <Xerati> f10 pauses java
#3030 [19:47] <Xerati> press it twice to unpause it
#3031 [19:47] <Kealper> get off my lawn!
#3032 [19:47] <aetherian> Kealper: I dropped my kite there!
#3033 [19:47] <aetherian> D:
#3034 [19:47] <Kealper> i think i want to go to bed early
#3035 [19:47] <aetherian> that's what you say every night
#3036 [19:48] <Kealper> because i'm trying to go to bed early :P
#3037 [19:48] <aetherian> bed...
#3038 [19:48] <SkiingPenguins> if i go to bed early i sleep less
#3039 [19:48] <aetherian> what a foreign concept
#3040 [19:48] <Purger> Does being on the PC help any?
#3041 [19:48] <Kealper> same, SkiingPenguins
#3042 [19:48] <DTOX> Sju laxar i en laxask
#3043 [19:48] <aetherian> I can never bring myself to eat breakfast
#3044 [19:48] <aetherian> my mouth feels all weird
#3045 [19:49] <Kealper> that's why i like going to bed early, i end up having more day time....if i stay up to like 3-4am, i sleep for 10-12 hours -.-
#3046 [19:49] <DTOX> lol same here
#3047 [19:49] <Purger> Another stupid question, Can you change camera angle while in 3rd person mode?
#3048 [19:49] <aetherian> uh kealper
#3049 [19:49] <Kealper> no :/
#3050 [19:49] <SkiingPenguins> i sleep for around 7 hours normally
#3051 [19:49] <Xerati> Purger, only by 180 degrees
#3052 [19:49] <Xerati> F1
#3053 [19:50] <aetherian> recently, I did what my teacher said has been my best paper all year.
#3054 [19:50] <aetherian> funny thing is
#3055 [19:50] <Purger> Thanks wanted to see face
#3056 [19:50] <aetherian> I did it all after 3 am chatting on here half the time
#3057 [19:50] <Purger> for reskin
#3058 [19:50] <aetherian> o.o
#3059 [19:50] <DTOX> I feel lonely :(
#3060 [19:50] <aetherian> purger, what's your skin
#3061 [19:50] <aetherian> DTOX: you should be
#3062 [19:51] <SkiingPenguins> aetherian i did a "wonderful" paper on beauty while i was listening to metallica and chatting on irc ;)
#3063 [19:51] <aetherian> lmao
#3064 [19:51] <Purger> Screwed up blue hockey mask thing I just started reskinning today
#3065 [19:51] <aetherian> I can't remember half my writing process
#3066 [19:51] <Purger> Don't expect to make any master pieces anytime soon
#3067 [19:51] <aetherian> o.o
#3068 [19:51] <aetherian> huh buh wha
#3069 [19:51] <Purger> lol XD
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#3071 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Danny0495
#3072 [19:52] <aetherian> hello Danny0495
#3073 [19:52] <Purger> What is the most popular skin out there
#3074 [19:52] <Purger> Skull?
#3075 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> Purger: Steve.
#3076 [19:53] <aetherian> Purger: john
#3077 [19:53] <aetherian> john doe.
#3078 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> (unlike aetherian, my answer was serious)
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#3080 [19:53] <aetherian> mine was serious too!
#3081 [19:53] <aetherian> hey vial
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#3083 [19:53] * aetherian bellows, "HELLO THERE"
#3083 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, bellows. No need to shout, the acoustics in here are great.
#3084 [19:54] <aetherian> haha
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#3086 [19:55] <Rui_rui> I can't find server.properties. B|;
#3087 [19:56] <NinjaKirby> F3, Global Phrase Search
#3088 [19:56] <NinjaKirby> Not in the Root Server folder?
#3089 [19:56] <aetherian> server.properties is right with the minecraft server o.o
#3090 [19:57] <Rui_rui> I extracted http://www.minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip to my desktop
#3091 [19:57] <Rui_rui> And I have minecraft-server, README, and start server
#3092 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> Rui_rui: did you run it? That creates the config files for you.
#3093 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> also.. did you READ the README?
#3094 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> there's a reason it's called that.
#3095 [19:58] * aetherian facelaptops
#3095 [19:58] <Rui_rui> Yes. I did.
#3096 [19:58] <aetherian> ow dammit
#3097 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> just checking (:
#3098 [19:58] <aetherian> is it the right server software?
#3099 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> Rui_rui: Run the minecraft_server.exe and you should see a passel of files appear, almost like magic, but it's really sufficiently advanced technology.
#3100 [19:59] <Rui_rui> I'm going to upgrade java, so brb
#3101 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> oh..kay.
#3102 [20:00] * aetherian facepalms
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#3104 [20:01] <Rui_rui> Okay, I upgraded.
#3105 [20:02] <NinjaKirby> lol
#3106 [20:02] <Rui_rui> So I'm supposed to open minecraft-server with Java?
#3107 [20:02] <aetherian> I shall be back shortly
#3108 [20:02] <aetherian> and yes, rui rui
#3109 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> just.. run the .exe file
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#3111 [20:02] <aetherian> or .jar
#3112 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> Rui_rui: Run the minecraft_server.exe and you should see a passel of files appear, almost like magic, but it's really sufficiently advanced technology.
#3113 [20:02] <aetherian> I use the .jar
#3114 [20:03] <aetherian> hurr hurr, DopeGhoti
#3115 [20:03] <Rui_rui> Yeah, it's .jar.
#3116 [20:03] <aetherian> nice paraphrasations
#3117 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> Rui_rui: you running on Windows or Linux?
#3118 [20:03] <Rui_rui> Windows.
#3119 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> k, just checking
#3120 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> run the 'start_server' script
#3121 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> you'll find it to be aptly named.
#3122 [20:04] <Rui_rui> 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external ommand, operable program or batch file. Press any key to continue . . .
#3123 [20:04] <aetherian> o.o
#3124 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/path
#3125 [20:04] <VoxelHead> win/path: You probably need to add Java's binaries to your system's path.
#3126 [20:04] <VoxelHead> win/path: A more detailed walkthrough of this is forthcoming.
#3127 [20:04] <aetherian> ??!
#3128 [20:04] <aetherian> aww
#3129 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> Rui_rui: please pastebin the contents of the server_start file
#3130 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> (open it in Notepad to view the file)
#3131 [20:05] <aetherian> ooh
#3132 [20:05] <aetherian> mine looks awesome
#3133 [20:05] <aetherian> wait
#3134 [20:05] <aetherian> server_start?
#3135 [20:05] <aetherian> isn't that classic?
#3136 [20:05] <Rui_rui> @echo off java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer pause
#3137 [20:06] <Rui_rui> ...derp
#3138 [20:06] <Rui_rui> http://mibpaste.com/HL9hkc
#3139 [20:06] <Rui_rui> There we go
#3140 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> yeah.. wrong server
#3141 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> !server
#3142 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> get it from there.
#3143 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> (that's why I was expecting you to have an .exe)
#3144 [20:07] <Rui_rui> Helps, thanks.
#3145 [20:07] <Rui_rui> Oh uh woah
#3146 [20:08] <Rui_rui> So... should it be.. running now?
#3147 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> yep.
#3148 [20:08] <Purger> What is the IP?
#3149 [20:08] <Purger> XD
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#3151 [20:09] * aetherian was right all along
#3151 [20:09] <aetherian> nyah ny-
#3152 [20:09] <Purger> minecraft website is so slow right now =P
#3153 [20:11] <Purger> Hey what are some skins you made for your avatar?
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#3156 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, jedahan
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#3158 [20:13] <Rui_rui> ...where did my server properties go
#3159 [20:14] <Rui_rui> oh nevermind
#3160 [20:14] <NinjaKirby> Argh, why did I log out T_T I can't get back in, damnit
#3161 [20:15] <NinjaKirby> I install Vibration dampening components in my Tower, and it vibrates, still.
#3162 [20:16] <NinjaKirby> And the weirdest things stop it, like tilting it 10 Degrees, I need a wedge
#3163 [20:16] <NinjaKirby> Then eventually that fails, and you have to rotates it 27 degrees
#3164 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> clearly that's not Minecraft, NinjaKirby.. what are you playing?
#3165 [20:16] <aetherian> or a book or two
#3166 [20:16] <NinjaKirby> lol, I'm just whining, having a moment
#3167 [20:17] <aetherian> #mcchatter <go there
#3168 [20:17] <aetherian> :O
#3169 [20:17] <NinjaKirby> Hmm, I've often seen that channel name, but never ventured there
#3170 [20:17] <Rui_rui> Trying to connect to my server. It's not working.
#3171 [20:18] <jedahan> howdy DopeGhoti
#3172 [20:18] <Rui_rui> Already forwarded my port.
#3173 [20:18] <aetherian> NinjaKirby: it's the coolest channel evar. almost. ish.
#3174 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: but it sounds like an interesting game, heh
#3175 [20:19] <Rui_rui> ...Wait.
#3176 [20:19] <Rui_rui> It says the port's not open.
#3177 [20:19] <Rui_rui> ...
#3178 [20:19] <Rui_rui> ...Okay, router.
#3179 [20:20] <aetherian> ehh, why can't mc do what his is doing
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#3181 [20:20] <aetherian> coupla bits of tnt
#3182 [20:20] <aetherian> and bam
#3183 [20:20] <Rui_rui> .... My router... doesn't want to enable it, for some reason.
#3184 [20:20] <NinjaKirby> Ah yes! Logged in
#3185 [20:20] <Rui_rui> As soon as I click "save changes", the ports are wiped.
#3186 [20:21] <aetherian> fail
#3187 [20:21] <Rui_rui> OH. I see.
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#3189 [20:21] <aetherian> hey nidefawl
#3190 [20:22] <aetherian> I SAID
#3191 [20:22] <aetherian> hello
#3192 [20:22] <Rui_rui> ...derp? server is already running on that port
#3193 [20:23] <Rui_rui> oh, that's why
#3194 [20:23] <aetherian> herp
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#3196 [20:23] <Skefv> yo
#3197 [20:23] <NinjaKirby> Argh, I moved my Map to regular Survival (Not server), and I lost my damn inventory. Renaming my Player .dat file between my account name and just "player" isn't solving it.
#3198 [20:23] <Skefv> i just bought minecraft but it doesnt work
#3199 [20:24] <Skefv> sometimes it crashes directly as i login
#3200 [20:24] <Skefv> or it says that it cannot connect to minecraft server, then crashes when i try to play offline
#3201 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> Done the usual stuff? Java up-to-date, GPU Drivers up-to-date, etcetera~
#3202 [20:26] <Skefv> yeah
#3203 [20:26] <Skefv> i've also ofcourse tried the alternative .exe
#3204 [20:27] <Rui_rui> Friend's getting a 'User is not premium' message.
#3205 [20:27] <NinjaKirby> Add the executable argument, "-please-for-the-love-of-god-just-WORK"
#3206 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: try making it Player, not player?
#3207 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> lol, thanks, I did ponder that, I'll try it
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#3209 [20:29] <Rui_rui> Any advice?
#3210 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> Rui_rui: probably related to minecraft.net being halfdown right now
#3211 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> wait, and try again?
#3212 [20:30] <Rui_rui> How long would you suggest waiting?
#3213 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> 20 minutes or so?
#3214 [20:30] <Rui_rui> Alright.
#3215 [20:31] <Rui_rui> Also, would my friend having a Mac change anything with her server?
#3216 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> well, she's not use the Windows executable of course
#3217 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> she'd, rather
#3218 [20:33] <Rui_rui> What should she do then?
#3219 [20:33] <Rui_rui> Is there a mac exe?
#3220 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> there's a .jar
#3221 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> which would be run per the instructions on the server download page
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#3223 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, [JD]
#3224 [20:34] <Skefv> also, why cant i melee down trees?
#3225 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> ?? dontclick
#3226 [20:34] <VoxelHead> dontclick: You will have better luck holding down the mouse button. Clicking is for instant interactions like placing blocks and flipping switches. To mine, chop wood, or dig; hold down the mouse button.
#3227 [20:39] <Rui_rui> !check 174.109.157.115
#3228 [20:40] <NinjaKirby> lol, why is it SATA is 3Gbps and it takes 10 seconds to move a 10Mb Save between drives. Surely the tiny files shouldn't be a problem XD
#3229 [20:40] <Elvang> Is it a lot of files?
#3230 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: usually.
#3231 [20:40] <Elvang> 1 10mb file and 100 files totally 10mb are going to transfer at different speeds
#3232 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> last time I checked, my save was around 300,000 files
#3233 [20:40] <Elvang> :O
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#3235 [20:41] <Elvang> With/out McRegion?
#3236 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> no mods.
#3237 [20:41] <Elvang> Ah, I only have a few files for my 16mb save using McRegion
#3238 [20:41] <NinjaKirby> I don't get that, it's just binary copying across all the same. Unless NTFS/Windows is crap at handling tiny files, like, massive overhead.
#3239 [20:41] <Elvang> The hard drive has to seek to each files location, plus other stuff
#3240 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: NTFS is crap with many small files.
#3241 [20:42] <Elvang> ^
#3242 [20:42] <NinjaKirby> Ah ha, there we go, heh
#3243 [20:42] <NinjaKirby> Clusters and Segments, it fails
#3244 [20:42] <NinjaKirby> Or whatever the breakdown is
#3245 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> okay, I ecaggerated.
#3246 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> minecraft@fortress:~/backups/world$ tar -tjvf minecraft.20110217-0200.tbz | wc -l
#3247 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> 57418
#3248 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> 57.4 kilofiles
#3249 [20:43] <Elvang> Is #minecraft still going at it?
#3250 [20:44] <NinjaKirby> lol, wtf is going on in there
#3251 [20:45] <Elvang> Someone said something negative about notch, someone else countered with positive, then someone called bias, rinse repeat
#3252 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> aka "the usual"
#3253 [20:48] <Elvang> I must not lurk enough, haven't seen it go that far before
#3254 [20:48] <Elvang> On an unrelated topic... is there something like a mingw32-make uninstall command?
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#3256 [20:49] <TheNytangel> minecraft.net down?
#3257 [20:49] <Elvang> Last I heard
#3258 [20:49] <Elvang> !isdown minecraft.net
#3259 [20:49] <GreyBot> Elvang: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3260 [20:49] <TheNytangel> i cant login to minecraft.. >.>
#3261 [20:49] <Elvang> So many useful commands in this channel :)
#3262 [20:50] <TheNytangel> ill just play offline, that wont affect anything in single player, will it?
#3263 [20:50] <Elvang> AFAIK
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#3266 [20:54] <killking72> anybody else haveing problems with their servers right now?
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#3268 [20:55] <Elvang> killking72: minecraft.net is down
#3269 [20:56] <killking72> it's back up but it's still messing up
#3270 [21:01] <killking72> can somebody try connecting to my beta server?
#3271 [21:02] <killking72> 71.143.179.189:25565
#3272 [21:05] <TheNytangel> lol i kept making my animals respawn
#3273 [21:05] <TheNytangel> i got a ton of feathers, wool, pork chops, and hide
#3274 [21:05] <TheNytangel> killking72, it wont let me connect
#3275 [21:05] <TheNytangel> it times out
#3276 [21:06] <NinjaKirby> wtf, Minecraft, I swear this is like Schrodinger's cat or something
#3277 [21:07] <NinjaKirby> I didn't change the lever position, or the Redstone wiring, the moment I compared by toggle controls visually, it suddenly worked
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#3279 [21:11] <NinjaKirby> Yes! Finally, got my XNOR Gate working, double doors for my Cavern, I came.
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#3283 [21:24] <mr_wibble> Hey I just downloaded Minecraft and registered, but when i try to log on it says im not a premium user and have to play online before i can play offline.... WTF do i DOOO
#3284 [21:24] <mr_wibble> any humans on here that can help??
#3285 [21:24] <mr_wibble> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#3286 [21:25] <mr_wibble> Hey I just downloaded Minecraft and registered, but when i try to log on it says im not a premium user and have to play online before i can play offline.... WTF do i DOOO?????????
#3287 [21:25] <mr_wibble> Hey I just downloaded Minecraft and registered, but when i try to log on it says im not a premium user and have to play online before i can play offline.... WTF do i DOOO??????????????????
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#3289 [21:25] <mr_wibble> damn it lame board,,, talking to myself
#3290 [21:25] <mr_wibble> Hey I just downloaded Minecraft and registered, but when i try to log on it says im not a premium user and have to play online before i can play offline.... WTF do i DOOO
#3291 [21:25] <Shadow386> stop spamming
#3292 [21:26] <Shadow386> jeez
#3293 [21:26] <Shadow386> and did you buy the game?
#3294 [21:26] <mr_wibble> i posted two time calm down..
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#3296 [21:26] <Shadow386> three times
#3297 [21:26] <mr_wibble> i downloaded the dbeta
#3298 [21:26] <mr_wibble> you got me.. lol three times
#3299 [21:26] <Shadow386> you cant play beta until you buy
#3300 [21:26] <Shadow386> if you didnt buy, you can only play classic
#3301 [21:26] <mr_wibble> reallly
#3302 [21:26] <mr_wibble> well that solves that prollbem i guess
#3303 [21:27] <mr_wibble> so "classic" and beta" are different programs
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#3305 [21:27] <Shadow386> yeah
#3306 [21:27] <Shadow386> classic is mainly in-browser though
#3307 [21:27] <Ronjoe> heh
#3308 [21:27] <Ronjoe> no
#3309 [21:28] <mr_wibble> so well thank you sir
#3310 [21:28] <Ronjoe> "classic is mainly in-browser"
#3311 [21:28] <mr_wibble> weird why they would let you download the program w/o letting you play it w/o purchase
#3312 [21:28] <Ronjoe> from my experience, most people use a client wrapper
#3313 [21:30] <TheNytangel> man, why can't notch make pork chops stackable?
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#3315 [21:32] <mr_wibble> so if ive already downloaded the beta and registered, but havent bought it, once i buy it ill be able to play it w/ same username and such?
#3316 [21:32] <TheNytangel> yes
#3317 [21:32] <mr_wibble> always a catch..
#3318 [21:32] <TheNytangel> you need to login or register to buy it
#3319 [21:32] <mr_wibble> makes sence
#3320 [21:33] <TheNytangel> sense*
#3321 [21:33] <mr_wibble> :) fail..
#3322 [21:33] <TheNytangel> OCD.. :P
#3323 [21:33] <TheNytangel> wow
#3324 [21:33] <TheNytangel> my large chest has 10 spots left
#3325 [21:33] <TheNytangel> it is full of pork chops
#3326 [21:33] <TheNytangel> should i cook them?
#3327 [21:34] <clank714> Yes
#3328 [21:34] <clank714> More Health Same Ammount
#3329 [21:34] <NinjaKirby> inb4 Cooking Grind
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#3331 [21:35] <TheNytangel> im on peaceful..
#3332 [21:35] <TheNytangel> i just pushed a sheep off a cliff
#3333 [21:35] <clank714> I hate geinding
#3334 [21:35] <clank714> *grinding
#3335 [21:37] <SkiingPenguins> clank714 the sparks burning your scalp? xD
#3336 [21:38] <clank714> Umm what
#3337 [21:38] <SkiingPenguins> :S wrong kind of grinding?
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#3339 [21:41] <clank714> Yes
#3340 [21:42] <SkiingPenguins> hmm what was you thinking of?
#3341 [21:42] <fizyplankton> does anyone know my beta keeps on going black on me? i downloaded the painterly pack, and after it happened twice, i switched back to the normal pack, but then it went black again. the whole game area just goes black. i have to use task manager to end it. it has always worked fine before
#3342 [21:43] <fizyplankton> it just started doing this today
#3343 [21:43] <TheNytangel> did you try.. uninstall and reinstall?
#3344 [21:43] <TheNytangel> maybe?
#3345 [21:43] <fizyplankton> and iv never used any form of unsupported mods
#3346 [21:43] <fizyplankton> again?
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#3348 [21:43] <fizyplankton> god, i already have 4 versions of the client
#3349 [21:44] <fizyplankton> not another one
#3350 [21:44] <fizyplankton> ill try it tho
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#3355 [21:58] <fizyplankton> damn
#3356 [21:59] <fizyplankton> now minecraft just completely quit
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#3358 [21:59] <aetherian> 'ello
#3359 [21:59] <fizyplankton> not just a black game window. its one second "hello awesome base" then the next second "hello awesome background"......wait......NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
#3360 [22:03] <NinjaKirby> AHHH! Coke from the Can, the Best.
#3361 [22:03] <aetherian> o.o
#3362 [22:03] <NinjaKirby> Sadly it's not chilled, then it's like... LIKE...
#3363 [22:03] <aetherian> bottles are better
#3364 [22:04] * NinjaKirby is unable to articulate
#3364 [22:04] <NinjaKirby> That's true, they are, typically I only get to have them on Holidays in Greece or something though
#3365 [22:04] <NinjaKirby> Wait, Glass or Plastic bottles?
#3366 [22:04] <aetherian> and glass bottles are even more better
#3367 [22:04] <aetherian> ...heh
#3368 [22:05] <NinjaKirby> Ah, I'd put Glass first, then the Can, then the Plastic :P
#3369 [22:05] <aetherian> can<plasticbottle<glassbottle
#3370 [22:05] <aetherian> for me
#3371 [22:05] <NinjaKirby> Really? /respect your preference :D
#3372 [22:05] <aetherian> except for car rides, then plastic bottle is best.
#3373 [22:05] <aetherian> car/bus/etc
#3374 [22:06] <NinjaKirby> That's agreable, I can imagine it failing to quench my thirst in that instance. It's have to be out of a Cold Storage Box thing.
#3375 [22:06] <aetherian> although when it comes to drinks like sprite/other clear sodas like that
#3376 [22:06] <aetherian> I have a weird way of drinking out of a can that makes it best with a can
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#3378 [22:07] <aetherian> but if put in a glass, I can do it better, so cups are best with those
#3379 [22:07] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm... *Sips some more Coke*
#3380 [22:07] * aetherian wants soda
#3380 [22:07] * aetherian has no soda at his house
#3380 [22:07] * aetherian has no nonreserved drinks other than milk and water at his home
#3380 [22:07] <aetherian> :#
#3381 [22:08] <NinjaKirby> Yikes? On a diet? ^^;;
#3382 [22:08] <aetherian> no...
#3383 [22:08] <TheNytangel> i have been spending a lot of time on my storage room
#3384 [22:09] <aetherian> mum's been on some crazy phase of life... quite annoying
#3385 [22:09] <NinjaKirby> Dayum ~_~
#3386 [22:09] <aetherian> I haven't been able to have top ramen for >2 months
#3387 [22:09] * aetherian needs his cheap noodles to survive
#3387 [22:10] <aetherian> they're in the damn cabinet, and I'm not allowed to have them. oh well, I'll probably cook them at 3am or something tonight (I guess tomorrow)
#3388 [22:10] * aetherian waits for 8 hours
#3388 [22:10] <NinjaKirby> lol, bizarre time difference, it's 3:10 here. Seemed like you were speaking to me from the past.
#3389 [22:10] * gigolo [gigolo@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3390 [22:11] <gigolo> hi all
#3391 [22:11] <aetherian> hey gigolo
#3392 [22:11] * Freddy [Freddy@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3393 [22:11] * NinjaKirby inserts Jim Carry saying "Here we go"
#3393 [22:11] <aetherian> SCOTTY
#3394 [22:11] <aetherian> WE NEED MORE POWER
#3395 [22:11] <gigolo> i have question
#3396 [22:12] * aetherian facelaptops
#3396 [22:12] <gigolo> how to make my server public on the site minecraft?
#3397 [22:12] <aetherian> you don't
#3398 [22:12] <aetherian> those are only classic servers
#3399 [22:12] <aetherian> beta servers don't get collected anywhere
#3400 [22:12] * Ellie1337 [Ellie1337@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3401 [22:12] <NinjaKirby> No one created a Mod to collect them on an Unofficial page?
#3402 [22:12] <gigolo> server pvp don't exist on minecraft.net?
#3403 [22:13] <gigolo> is only private
#3404 [22:13] <aetherian> no, that would be quite hard to do, ninjakirby
#3405 [22:13] <aetherian> gigolo, those are classic servers
#3406 [22:13] <NinjaKirby> Fair enough :3
#3407 [22:13] <aetherian> ie impossible, I belive, NinjaKirby
#3408 [22:14] <aetherian> gigolo: what do you want now.
#3409 [22:14] <NinjaKirby> Really? I would have thought, like, the moment the server runs the Mod signals a Server. It recognises you, takes you IP and compiles a list.
#3410 [22:14] <aetherian> brb
#3411 [22:14] <NinjaKirby> But I don't understand the Java Mechanics at all, so maybe I'm skipping some knarley hurdles
#3412 [22:14] <aetherian> back
#3413 [22:14] <NinjaKirby> lol, Welcome
#3414 [22:14] <aetherian> and ninja, that'd be on the side of the person of the mc server.
#3415 [22:14] <gigolo> where to make a good promotion to make my server popular?
#3416 [22:14] <aetherian> thus, it would not effect everyone
#3417 [22:15] <aetherian> #smp is the advertisement place
#3418 [22:15] <aetherian> I would not reccomend #minecraft , as nobody goes there
#3419 [22:15] <NinjaKirby> Oh yeah, but if all Beta Server Operators used the mod (And it became mainstream), then yeeha~
#3420 [22:15] <aetherian> #smp is much more popular
#3421 [22:16] <aetherian> ..:D
#3422 [22:17] <NinjaKirby> XD
#3423 [22:23] * fogWraith [fogWraith@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3424 [22:24] <aetherian> I haven't the foggiest, man.
#3425 [22:26] * gigolo [gigolo@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#3426 [22:26] <aetherian> ...heh
#3427 [22:26] <TheNytangel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uyxVmdaJ-w
#3428 [22:26] <TheNytangel> XD
#3429 [22:28] <aetherian> wat is this i dont even
#3430 [22:29] <aetherian> one of the better fan vids o.o
#3431 [22:30] <Elvang> Pretty good
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#3433 [22:32] <Azrael78> Hello
#3434 [22:32] <SkiingPenguins> hi
#3435 [22:33] <Azrael78> I was wondering how to buy the game, I have went to the website but it's in EUR and I need USD.
#3436 [22:33] <aetherian> yo
#3437 [22:33] * aetherian facepalms
#3437 [22:33] <Azrael78> Anyone know what I need to do to buy the game?
#3438 [22:33] <SkiingPenguins> Azrael78 it's converted to USD when you buy it
#3439 [22:34] <SkiingPenguins> converted by your creditcard company or whomever you're buying it through
#3440 [22:34] <Azrael78> I tried entering my Card info and it says wrong currency.
#3441 [22:34] <TheNytangel> $20.47 or something in USD
#3442 [22:34] <TheNytangel> just buy the game
#3443 [22:34] <Azrael78> 20.33 I used a converter I found.
#3444 [22:34] <TheNytangel> no need for a european credit card or anything
#3445 [22:34] <TheNytangel> i was close
#3446 [22:34] <Azrael78> Yes you were.
#3447 [22:35] <Elvang> Don't forget about international fees, if your bank charges for them.
#3448 [22:35] <TheNytangel> 14 cents off
#3449 [22:35] <Azrael78> Ok, I have an account and I'm logged in.
#3450 [22:35] <Jakob> Dead Crafters, I run a server. My cousin got mad and griefed. This happened. http://www.redzero.net/grabs/876fa2b9.png . Is this wrong of me?
#3451 [22:36] <Azrael78> I have clicked buy now.
#3452 [22:36] <Azrael78> I'll try it again. BRB
#3453 [22:37] <TheNytangel> lol
#3454 [22:37] <aetherian> !ping
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#3456 [22:37] <aetherian> greyvulpine, you should fix that
#3457 [22:37] <TheNytangel> thats
#3458 [22:38] <TheNytangel> that sounds like a personal problem
#3459 [22:38] <TheNytangel> cant you just get rid of the lava?
#3460 [22:38] <Jakob> I said Dead Crafters, I meant Dear Crafters.
#3461 [22:38] <Jakob> lol
#3462 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Fix... what?
#3463 [22:38] <Jakob> !ping
#3464 [22:38] <GreyBot> Jakob Your Ping time was 0.24 Seconds.
#3465 [22:39] <aetherian> it won't say it out loud for me, did you blacklist me?
#3466 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so
#3467 [22:39] <aetherian> !ping
#3468 [22:39] <Jakob> lol
#3469 [22:39] <aetherian> I'm recieving it
#3470 [22:39] <aetherian> hey grey, ping me
#3471 [22:39] <aetherian> see if it even shows
#3472 [22:39] <Jakob> I'm not getting a reply from you, aetherian
#3473 [22:40] <aetherian> well
#3474 [22:40] <aetherian> uh
#3475 [22:40] <aetherian> well
#3476 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Greybot isn't ignoring you
#3477 [22:40] <aetherian> that's... odd
#3478 [22:40] <Jakob> PChat
#3479 [22:40] <aetherian> quit it jake
#3480 [22:40] <Jakob> what's that
#3481 [22:40] <Jakob> it might be your client.
#3482 [22:40] <aetherian> I've been using the client for a while
#3483 [22:40] <Jakob> oh
#3484 [22:40] <aetherian> it's a good client
#3485 [22:40] <Jakob> mIRC or XCHat
#3486 [22:41] <Jakob> For linux, irssi.
#3487 [22:41] <aetherian> I'm on the pchat channel on a server, so I'll enquire there.
#3488 [22:41] <aetherian> and jakob: ...
#3489 [22:41] <TheNytangel> im using xchat
#3490 [22:41] <aetherian> xchat is shareware and mirc sucks
#3491 [22:41] <TheNytangel> i use mirc for my bot
#3492 [22:41] <Jakob> me too
#3493 [22:41] <aetherian> pchat is xchat but open source and windows
#3494 [22:41] * GreyVulpine used mIRC for greybot as wel
#3494 [22:41] * aetherian facepalms
#3494 [22:41] <TheNytangel> my xchat is called "YChat"
#3495 [22:41] <Jakob> cool GreyVulpine
#3496 [22:42] <TheNytangel> good job GreyVulpine :P
#3497 [22:42] <aetherian> well mine is cooler, TheNytangel
#3498 [22:42] <TheNytangel> what is?
#3499 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Not really, I was young and stupid when I coded Greybot up
#3500 [22:42] <TheNytangel> im young and stupid
#3501 [22:42] <TheNytangel> 13 year old blonde
#3502 [22:42] <aetherian> that sums up grey
#3503 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> ...
#3504 [22:43] <aetherian> ;o
#3505 [22:43] <TheNytangel> mIRC scripting is easy
#3506 [22:43] * themysticcrafter [themysticcrafter@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3507 [22:43] <Jakob> msl *
#3508 [22:43] <aetherian> pchat is cooler
#3509 [22:43] <Jakob> and yeah
#3510 [22:43] <themysticcrafter> does help include circuitry?
#3511 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes themysticcrafter
#3512 [22:44] <themysticcrafter> I wanna know how to make a basic clock :P
#3513 [22:44] <themysticcrafter> Not the gold one
#3514 [22:44] <aetherian> oboy
#3515 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Define "Clock"
#3516 [22:44] <aetherian> that's difficult stuff there
#3517 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Do you just want a constant on-off pulse?
#3518 [22:44] <aetherian> you want it to display in binary?
#3519 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> or a 12/24 digit display clock
#3520 [22:44] <themysticcrafter> A way of telling a broad idea of what time it is
#3521 [22:45] <themysticcrafter> none of that display stuff, yet :P
#3522 [22:45] <aetherian> make a binary clock :O
#3523 [22:45] <aetherian> and brb
#3524 [22:45] <TheNytangel> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting#Tool_Recipes
#3525 [22:45] <themysticcrafter> -.-''
#3526 [22:45] <TheNytangel> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Clock
#3527 [22:45] * Bio_Hazzard is away: A-W-A-Y
#3527 [22:46] <TheNytangel> themysticcrafter does that help?
#3528 [22:46] <aetherian> asshol
#3529 [22:46] <aetherian> e
#3530 [22:47] <aetherian> he said not the craftable thing
#3531 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Hey now..
#3532 [22:47] <TheNytangel> well then how the hell do you make it without it
#3533 [22:47] <TheNytangel> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_circuits#Clock_generators
#3534 [22:47] <TheNytangel> that?
#3535 [22:47] <themysticcrafter> Lemme see
#3536 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> You.. don't. There's no way to synchronize a redstone pulse with the time of day
#3537 [22:48] <themysticcrafter> Oh, not like that
#3538 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Once you travel far enough away, the chunk unloads, redstone and all
#3539 [22:48] <themysticcrafter> What?
#3540 [22:49] <themysticcrafter> Oh, I know about pulsers/small clocks
#3541 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> If you wanted to construct a redstone circuit, that is constantly updating with a pulse generator, to tell time of day...
#3542 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Once you travel far enough away from the chunk of land, that chunk gets unloaded from memory
#3543 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> It no longer keeps track
#3544 [22:50] <aetherian> unless
#3545 [22:50] <TheNytangel> just make a skylight? :P
#3546 [22:50] <themysticcrafter> Skylight? O.o
#3547 [22:50] <aetherian> light from the sky
#3548 [22:50] * aetherian sails away in a myriad of colors
#3548 [22:50] <aetherian> skyyyyliiiigjt
#3549 [22:50] <TheNytangel> dig a hole from where you are to the outside
#3550 [22:51] <themysticcrafter> Why do I need a skylight..?
#3551 [22:51] <TheNytangel> fine
#3552 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> They're saying, to tell time, just have open space to the sky
#3553 [22:51] <TheNytangel> be a jerk then
#3554 [22:51] <TheNytangel> lol jk
#3555 [22:51] <themysticcrafter> Uh, I have gold and all..
#3556 [22:51] <themysticcrafter> I just want a redstone challenge :P
#3557 [22:51] <TheNytangel> i have no idea what the crap your talking about..
#3558 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Not possible right now themysticcrafter.
#3559 [22:52] <aetherian> themysticcrafter: just make a calculator
#3560 [22:52] <themysticcrafter> Calculator?
#3561 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Even if you could synchronize it perfectly, it'll get unloaded from memory once you travel away from it
#3562 [22:52] <themysticcrafter> I could reset it?
#3563 [22:52] <themysticcrafter> Just with a switch..
#3564 [22:52] <aetherian> oh right
#3565 [22:52] <aetherian> easy as that
#3566 [22:53] <aetherian> o.o
#3567 [22:53] <themysticcrafter> Just keep the switch on and then wait till it's the right time to start it again lol
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#3569 [22:53] <jwshields> Hi, I have a question, is it possible to put am MOTD in my server without havign to mod it?
#3570 [22:53] * Kealper found an extreme HD txture mod for Doom 3
#3570 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> jwshields - Not in beta. There is no MOTD function with the original software
#3571 [22:54] * Kealper dusts off his old Doom 3 installation CDs
#3571 [22:54] <jwshields> ffffff
#3572 [22:54] <jwshields> okay
#3573 [22:54] <jwshields> thanks anyway
#3574 [22:54] <Kealper> hmm....CD keys...been a while since i've seen these O.o
#3575 [22:54] <aetherian> haha
#3576 [22:55] <aetherian> I swear, if you do not have the cd key...
#3577 [22:55] <Kealper> of course i do....lol
#3578 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, go far enough back, you need the original manual
#3579 [22:55] * GreyVulpine remembers having to look up a specific word for Star Wars: X-wing
#3579 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Each page had a password at the bottom
#3580 [22:56] <Kealper> it's not in the manual, but the back of the 4-cd case lol
#3581 [22:56] <Kealper> "This CD key appears to be valid!"
#3582 [22:57] <aetherian> :D
#3583 [22:57] <DopeGhoti> "appears to be" *snrk*
#3584 [22:57] <Kealper> wow...this needs a blazing 384mb of ram, an Athlon XP 1800+ cpu...and an 8x cd-rom drive....with 2.2gb of space
#3585 [22:58] <Kealper> hey....this is 100% legit, i bought it when it first came out lol
#3586 [22:58] <aetherian> damn
#3587 [22:58] <aetherian> upgrade dude
#3588 [22:58] * aetherian also has some extremely old games lying around
#3588 [22:59] <themysticcrafter> Has anyone here made moats?
#3589 [22:59] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I know, I was snrking at the message.
#3590 [22:59] <Kealper> old? shit, this is the best of 2004 :o
#3591 [22:59] <DopeGhoti> themysticcrafter: Several, yes.
#3592 [22:59] <Kealper> themysticcrafter: best ones are lava ones
#3593 [22:59] <Kealper> except when you fall in them accidentally, of course
#3594 [22:59] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Meh, monster-in-a-box with lighting effects you never see because there are never any lights got kinda old
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#3596 [23:00] <DopeGhoti> though whoever made (and named) the duct-tape mod was a genius
#3597 [23:00] <themysticcrafter> Is there a way to make them so that if you jump in one and it is off, you will land in lava straight away?
#3598 [23:00] <themysticcrafter> Or water?
#3599 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> themysticcrafter - With a mod, yes
#3600 [23:00] <quibbit> how u make a server?
#3601 [23:00] <Kealper> Doom 3 and Minecraft are the only games that have truely had me going "WTF SHITSHITSHIT!!!" in a while :/
#3602 [23:00] <themysticcrafter> I don't use the moat mod..
#3603 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> themysticcrafter - I recommend looking at the ControllerBlock mod
#3604 [23:01] <DopeGhoti> quibbit: you misspelled 'you'.
#3605 [23:01] <themysticcrafter> I don't use mods :/
#3606 [23:01] <quibbit> i dowloaded and got past firewall
#3607 [23:01] <Kealper> omg dope lol
#3608 [23:01] <aetherian> lol DopeGhoti
#3609 [23:01] <quibbit> and does it really matter?
#3610 [23:01] <aetherian> it does
#3611 [23:01] <aetherian> here
#3612 [23:02] <Kealper> when dope is here, very
#3613 [23:02] <DopeGhoti> If you expect to be able to run a server, details are important.
#3614 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> themysticcrafter - Then no, it is not possible
#3615 [23:02] <DopeGhoti> the server download and instructions are here:
#3616 [23:02] <quibbit> oh, sorry. how does one create a minecraft server?
#3617 [23:02] <DopeGhoti> !server
#3618 [23:02] <aetherian> *and xales sometimes
#3619 [23:02] * Kealper steps out while this installs cd 1 of 3
#3619 [23:03] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Re: Doom3- I did like how the game engine and PDA and computer panels were all seamlessly integrated.
#3620 [23:03] * aetherian pokes kealper
#3620 [23:03] <Kealper> ok back
#3621 [23:03] <aetherian> kk
#3622 [23:03] <Kealper> yeah, this game was just amazing for 2004
#3623 [23:04] <aetherian> this is on floppies, riiiight?
#3624 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> No
#3625 [23:04] <themysticcrafter> What's the condition you get after playing too much minecraft and feeling like you're in it? xD
#3626 [23:04] <aetherian> high
#3627 [23:05] <Kealper> man, i remember when it first came out...it was like "WARNING: ULTRA HIGH QUALITY CAN USE OVER 500 MEGABYTES OF VIDEO MEMORY, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!"
#3628 [23:05] <aetherian> high on minecrack
#3629 [23:05] <aetherian> OMIGOD KEALPER
#3630 [23:05] <aetherian> wait
#3631 [23:05] <Kealper> and i could just think "OMG! 512mb graphics cards exist!?"
#3632 [23:05] <themysticcrafter> xD
#3633 [23:05] <aetherian> o.o
#3634 [23:05] <aetherian> that's more than I thought for back then
#3635 [23:05] <aetherian> I read it as may use over 500 mB of memory
#3636 [23:05] <DopeGhoti> See also: "Crysis"
#3637 [23:06] <Kealper> you know crysis was just unplayable on hardware when it came out?
#3638 [23:06] <themysticcrafter> Crysis : rofl
#3639 [23:06] <DopeGhoti> I remember the first time I put doom3 on the highest GPU settings
#3640 [23:06] <Kealper> Doom 3 was in that position
#3641 [23:06] <DopeGhoti> I went from 60 FPS to 5 SPF
#3642 [23:06] <Kealper> yeah XD
#3643 [23:06] <Kealper> shit....installation error...
#3644 [23:06] <Kealper> fucking CDs
#3645 [23:07] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: how much did that game use again?
#3646 [23:07] <aetherian> I thought you could play it, not on max, but decently with 512mb gpu
#3647 [23:07] <DopeGhoti> At the time, my system had "only" 2GiB of RAM
#3648 [23:08] <DopeGhoti> (which, by the way, improved Battlefield 2 _tons_ in comparison to 1GiB)
#3649 [23:08] <aetherian> my laptop has twice that :O
#3650 [23:08] <themysticcrafter> I have 2gb of RAM, It's the max for my laptop :/
#3651 [23:08] <aetherian> I have 4 :D
#3652 [23:09] <aetherian> (and 1gb gpu ftw)
#3653 [23:09] <themysticcrafter> It's 5 years old, though :p
#3654 [23:09] <aetherian> mine's eh
#3655 [23:10] <aetherian> I got it on the 25th of december, but I dunno when it was made
#3656 [23:10] <Kealper> damnit....i better not have to pirate a game that i own just so i can install it and play it
#3657 [23:11] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Welcome to the future
#3658 [23:11] <aetherian> haha
#3659 [23:11] <aetherian> I wonder how graphics intensive crysis 3 is gonna be
#3660 [23:11] <DopeGhoti> Wasn't there some game that came out a while back on Steam that blatantly used some NoCD crack on the retail version?
#3661 [23:11] <aetherian> or did it already come out?
#3662 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> um.
#3663 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> 2 isn't out yet (officially)
#3664 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> 3 isn't even in the cards.
#3665 [23:12] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: not sure on steam, but i know like 2 years ago or something the original Halo for PC implemented a nocd crack into their last game update
#3666 [23:13] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: there's patching out the CD check, and there's your code still having the RaZoR1911 signature in it.
#3667 [23:13] <aetherian> oh my bad
#3668 [23:13] <aetherian> I meant 2
#3669 [23:14] <DopeGhoti> sorry, not RaZoR; Myth
#3670 [23:14] <DopeGhoti> http://www.geek.com/articles/games/evidence-suggests-rockstar-used-no-cd-crack-for-max-payne-2-on-steam-20100513/
#3671 [23:14] <DopeGhoti> irony: UbiSoft was caught doing the same thing.
#3672 [23:14] <DopeGhoti> _UbiSoft_
#3673 [23:15] <DopeGhoti> In other news, KillZone 3 has leaked.
#3674 [23:15] <Kealper> sheesh.....draconian DRM.....cracking their own games...would they make up their minds?
#3675 [23:15] <aetherian> what was the NoCD again?
#3676 [23:15] <themysticcrafter> I was just thinking, is there any way to make a multi use for redstone updating liquids?
#3677 [23:15] <Kealper> i'm seriously quite mad right now....i actually have to go pirate a game that i am holding in my hands right now
#3678 [23:16] <aetherian> why was that, kelly?
#3679 [23:16] <DopeGhoti> CD media fail?
#3680 [23:16] <Kealper> corrupt file on one of the CDs
#3681 [23:16] <aetherian> lOHl
#3682 [23:17] <Kealper> and Doom 3 has like...3 700mb .pk4 files that everything is in..so it's not like i can just say screw it i'll play without that single texture or sound file -.-
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#3684 [23:17] <DopeGhoti> aren't pk4 files just.. zips?
#3685 [23:17] <aetherian> heh
#3686 [23:17] <Kealper> yeah but zips don't mean crap when they are corrupt :/
#3687 [23:18] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: try dding the CD to an ISO and mounting that?
#3688 [23:18] <DopeGhoti> or wiping your greasy thumbpring off of the CD? (:
#3689 [23:18] <aetherian> lol
#3690 [23:18] <Kealper> already tried :(
#3691 [23:18] <aetherian> all those nachos, I'm telling ya
#3692 [23:22] <DopeGhoti> mm, pizza enroute
#3693 [23:23] <NinjaKirby> When you walk through a Gate, are you facing the same direction upon re-integration to the Nether?
#3694 [23:23] <NinjaKirby> And nice :3 I had a Domino's earlier too
#3695 [23:24] * DopeGhoti never buys Dominos, and not just because the pie is inferior
#3695 [23:24] <DopeGhoti> The corporation donates $1 to an anti-choice PAC for every pie they sell.
#3696 [23:25] <aetherian> ah, variations in words.
#3697 [23:25] <aetherian> antichoice/prolife, and antilife/prochoice
#3698 [23:25] <aetherian> what fun we can have to bend words to our own will
#3699 [23:26] <NinjaKirby> taw
#3700 [23:26] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: Pro-life and pro-choice are not mutually exclusive. I am both.
#3701 [23:26] <aetherian> depends on your definition of them, truly.
#3702 [23:27] <Kealper> what he is saying (i would assume) is that he likes that abortions should be on the table, but would prefer that people chose to keep the baby
#3703 [23:28] * aetherian rolls his eyes
#3703 [23:28] <DopeGhoti> No, I'm just, all things being equal, against killing for any reason.
#3704 [23:28] <aetherian> but?
#3705 [23:28] <DopeGhoti> But a person's body is their own, and an embryo is not a sentient life-form.
#3706 [23:29] <DopeGhoti> Nor is a blastocyst.
#3707 [23:29] * Kurimus [Kurimus@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3708 [23:29] <DopeGhoti> And it is my opinion that no entity, governmental or otherwise, should interpose itself between a person, their physician, and any decisions to be made.
#3709 [23:29] <aetherian> meh, I think abortions should only truly be allowed under circumstances of thing such as rape/gonna die without one
#3710 [23:30] <aetherian> or other bad things to the motherboard
#3711 [23:30] * GreyVulpine snerks
#3711 [23:30] <DopeGhoti> Further, in my opinion, the anti-choice crowd lost both the higher ground and, from me, the "pro-life" monicker when they did not disavow people killing doctors.
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#3713 [23:31] <aetherian> huh buh wha
#3714 [23:31] <aetherian> who's been killing doctors?
#3715 [23:31] * DopeGhoti prefers not to make this channel into #divisivesociopoliticalissues
#3715 [23:32] <DopeGhoti> but since you ask, one example would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Tiller; see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence
#3716 [23:32] <DopeGhoti> specifically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#Murders
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#3718 [23:33] <aetherian> yes well, thank god you can rule out half of those people as nutjobs anyway.
#3719 [23:33] <Kealper> looks like i won't be playing Doom 3 tonight :<
#3720 [23:34] <aetherian> fail
#3721 [23:34] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: really? Hop onto Demonoid.
#3722 [23:34] <Kealper> that's why i won't be playing tonight...never said anything about tomorrow :P
#3723 [23:34] <DopeGhoti> ah, it's 2330 where you are
#3724 [23:34] <DopeGhoti> I get it
#3725 [23:35] <Kealper> 2130....
#3726 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> Yes, I know when it is where I am, but thanks.
#3727 [23:36] <Kealper> np, any time
#3728 [23:38] <aetherian> I shall be back in a matter of nanoseconds
#3729 [23:38] <aetherian> lotsa lotsa nanoseconds
#3730 [23:38] <aetherian> oooorrrrrrrr not
#3731 [23:38] <Kealper> sheesh....took ya long enough
#3732 [23:39] <Kealper> you were gone for like 1m ns
#3733 [23:39] <DopeGhoti> True fact: For roughly every foot away from you and object is at which you are looking; you are looking one nanosecond back in time.
#3734 [23:40] <aetherian> roughly
#3735 [23:40] <aetherian> I thought it was further?
#3736 [23:41] <Kealper> when you look at the center of the milky way, you are looking about 1,500 years back in time :O
#3737 [23:41] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: light travels approximately eleven inches in one nanosecond
#3738 [23:41] <DopeGhoti> (in a vaccuum)
#3739 [23:41] <aetherian> like I thought it was longer, that is
#3740 [23:42] <aetherian> .o.
#3741 [23:42] <Kealper> wahey!
#3742 [23:42] <Kealper> 1.5 hours
#3743 [23:42] <Kealper> on a 4 year old [explitive]
#3744 [23:43] <Elvang> Are there any probes near the sun currently?
#3745 [23:43] <Kealper> probably not too close
#3746 [23:43] <Kealper> too much radiation
#3747 [23:44] <Elvang> Random train of thought made me think that we'd get information on the sun sooner from a probe orbiting earth than the sun
#3748 [23:44] <Kealper> probably be about the same speed
#3749 [23:45] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: except any information transmitted from the probe would also get here at the time whatever it observes did
#3750 [23:45] <Elvang> Really? I figured the probe transmission would be slower than any data we could get from viewing the sun (light, radiation, etc)
#3751 [23:45] <DopeGhoti> to wit, about eight minutes later
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#3753 [23:46] <Kealper> Elvang: it's all radiation, so it will travel roughly the same speed in the same medium
#3754 [23:46] <Elvang> Ah, alright
#3755 [23:47] <DopeGhoti> the point being, it's not get the info here any faster
#3756 [23:51] <Elvang> Miclee's gotta have some serious penalties in #idlerpg for all the nick changes :)
#3757 [23:52] <Sqozza> Hehe
#3758 [23:52] <DopeGhoti> or jsut one for a logout
#3759 [23:52] <Sqozza> I'm in #idle
#3760 [23:52] <DopeGhoti> or just not caring
#3761 [23:52] <Elvang> Ah, typo :)
#3762 [23:52] <Sqozza> I don't seem to get many penalties for leaving.
#3763 [23:52] <Elvang> Meant idle*
#3764 [23:53] <Elvang> Nick Changes: 1d 11:20:12 xD
#3765 [23:54] <Sqozza> What's the command for that?
#3766 [23:54] <Elvang> http://dragon.rpgamer.com/idle/playerview.cgi?player=Sqozza
#3767 [23:54] <Sqozza> Ah.
#3768 [23:54] <Elvang> Shows all sorts of nifty stuff
#3769 [23:54] <Sqozza> 2:42:17 for quitting.
#3770 [23:54] <DopeGhoti> ah
#3771 [23:55] <Sqozza> 43 mins for failed quests.
#3772 [23:55] <DopeGhoti> the bot should be updated to use that site rather than the default one
#3773 [23:55] <Sqozza> oooh, I have a rare item, it seems.
#3774 [23:55] <Sqozza> +1 approval.
#3775 [23:55] <Elvang> :o its case sensitive
#3776 [23:56] <Elvang> Also, score. Apparently the tunic I stole was a rare item.